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Title: Antrim Hurling
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM
Thought I would start up this thread as the Antrim football hurling one has turned into the football only one!!!

Anybody any ideas of the team selection for the match this Sunday? Low-key preparation, are they confident for the National league? I see no changes to the senior hurling leagues this year or the championship format. Will Loughgiel finally deliver this year or will the Johnnies make the graded this year.

Heading down to Salthill to watch the first game in Feb will we have the Cushendall boys then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 26, 2007, 11:32:08 AM
Cushendall play on the 11th Feb, if they win i'm sure they'll not be available till after paddys day, if they don't i'm sure some will ask for a week of to recharge the batteries.

As for the championship next year it should certainly be interesting, i remember a charge levelled at the Dunloy teams of the 90's was that it couldn't be considered a 'Great' team until it won 3 in a row (which it subsequently did) the Dall have the chance to do that again having completed a hat trick in the early 90's.  Would be a terrific achievement for such a young team.  Hopefully they don't make it.

Any truth in the rumour on the football thread that N Mc Garry has left the shamrocks to play football for Glenravel, he played a bit of underage for dunloy and was a decent player, very good goalkeeper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 26, 2007, 02:37:17 PM
Talking to a Cushendall lad during the week and he said that his teams preparations are going great. They had a bit of a "hick-up" though as last weekend a trainer was brought in from Cork. It apparently rained the three training sessions he took, and some of the lads now have the flu. Antrim Hurling could badly do with a win and I think Cushendall are capable of pulling this off. But it will take a massive effort. It will also require a full healthy squad. Any word from the Loughrea camp? Their doesn't seem to be much "stir" comming from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
What's the general feeling in Antrim about Cushendalls chances against Loughrea?

I must say I really fancy them to do it although I have reservations about the consistency and strength in depth of their forwards.

Aidan Delargy really must improve on his accuracy which has let him down in the two games against Dungiven plus Neil McManus isn't really a forward and although he lined out in the forwards in the Ulster replay he done all his best hurling in his own half back line that day.

Monty will need to be fit to pull the strings, whether it'd be wise to start him on Greg Kennedy I'm not so sure. Mr Kennedy can be an abhrasive charachter and Monty doesn't like that sort of attention.

I have been impressed by the Dalls defence. They are sticky wee f**kers especially down the left wing and won't be found wanting. With a fit again Mickey McCambridge I wonder if they might try to shoe horn him into the team?? I'd leave the defence alone but do you leave a player of that ability on the bench or put him up into the forwards along with Neil McManus, I don't know!!

The best of luck to them anyway and I hope they do it even if they are hard to listen to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2007, 04:00:15 PM
 Yes, the Dalls defence is great and if I had a fit Mc Cambridge I'd have him on, great hurler, McManus needs to be in defence, or midfield. Think the game will be low scoring depending on the weather, there is usually a gale blowing down one end at these games.

It's who adopts on the day Loughrea will be very hungry and have a lot to prove considering the bad press they got after the County final. Having attended all of Dunloys semi finals I was always impressed by the fact they never panic. Providing they don't let them take a big lead this game could go either way.

I think I will be going to the Gorts game that day (no offence Cushendall) I'm hopping they get to the final.

One thing about these games that I have watched at this stage is the referee will give you nothing and will not think about sending you off, stay within the rules.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 26, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
I don't know if its just me or not. But I do feel that the referee's in the North tend to be a little bit more whistle happy. In the south things are a bit more lienent. My own experiance of playing against southern opposition,especialy in such a high profile game is they tend to hit very hard. In some cases getting away with it. Plus the Galway championship is probably the most toughest and most competive club competitions in the Country. Loughrea will be well batle hardened and we all know a bout the game with Portumna, so Cushendall I think will face a very phsiycal challange.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 26, 2007, 11:56:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 26, 2007, 04:00:15 PM
Yes, the Dalls defence is great and if I had a fit Mc Cambridge I'd have him on, great hurler

Well I think the Dall defense is stronger without Mickey McCambridge who is a lovely hurler but I think at this stage of the year a dogged defense is better than a stylish one. If it ain't broke?....The one thing that annoys me about him is he tends to overrun the ball instead of releasing early. I could see him playing in the 3/4 line at some stage in the game. Skinner has a few good difficult choices to make
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 27, 2007, 10:32:37 AM
I agree with the skull, i'd keep the defence the same they've been going well all year without him.  Mickey is a stylih hurler and much like Paul Kelly of tipp i think their could be a role for him in the middle of the field or half forwards.

i think Skinner also has a big decision on Neil McManus, he's done well in the forwards but he's a terrific defender.  I really think if three or four of the forwards can put a big game together then they'd be in with a huge chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 27, 2007, 12:14:03 PM
First off well done Milltown for starting this thread, all the football bickering on the other thread was starting to do my head in. With regard to Cushendall the biggest thing they have in their favour is Skinners ability to read a game and make changes. I genuinely believe he is the most tactically aware manager in ulster. When you look at them as a 15 they should not have won either of the last two championships the fact that they did is down to a great team ethic and clever switches, ie McManus into full forward for this years county final or the introduction of Jackie Carson in the 2005 final. Is the match confirmed as being in Mullingar does anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 27, 2007, 12:38:21 PM
Dall match is definitely in Mullingar at 1pm - brought forward to facillitate TG4 showing it live now the other rugby-loving semi-finalists have had their game switched to Saturday.

That means it's not a doubel header with the JHC Semi before it - that has been moved to St. Lomans Mullingar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on January 27, 2007, 08:42:22 PM
Cushendall may well beat Loughrea but I'd doubt if they could handle Ballyhale Shamrocks who I'd imagine will beat Toomevara.

I sincerely hope they do get to the final as they've never been, but I'd fear they could get hammered a la Dunloy by an exceptional club team in Ballyhale.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 28, 2007, 03:30:33 PM
According to aertal Antrim lost to Wexford by two points. Wexford 3 10  Antrim 1 14. Not sure how accurate that is because aertal isn't the most reliable. Anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on January 28, 2007, 04:42:32 PM
Taken from Antrom Official Website -   antrim.gaa.ie
Antrim beaten by Wexford in Walsh Cup28 January 2007

Paul Shields who was Antrim's top scorer in Sunday's Walsh Cup defeat by Wexford A largely experimental Antrim side were well beaten in the end by Wexford in Sunday's Walsh Cup ¼ final in Piercetown, Wexford.
Antrim's new management team, who are short of the Cushendall contingent, tried out a few new players in their first competitive game since taking charge.
The Saffrons did well in the first half and led by 0-9 to 0-8 at the break, but when the home side upped the pace in the second half they pulled away to win comfortabley.
Debutant Paul Shields kept Antrim's hopes alive with a goal midway through the second half, but Wexford found the Antrim net three times to run out 3-20 to 1-14 winners and book a semi-final slot against Laois.
ANTRIM – DD Quinn, B McAuley, J McKeague, J Campbell, M Molloy, K Herron, N McAuley, C Cunning, B Herron, L Watson, K Kelly, M Herron, K Stewart, P Richmond, P Shields.
SUBS – J McIntosh for Stewart; M Scullion for Cunning; S Burke for B Herron;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 28, 2007, 05:12:08 PM
Not a good start for sambo. Getting beat by twelve points is quite a margin. Although Antrim were without the Cushendall lads I am sure Wexford were trying new lads as well. Early days yet though. Some of that Antrim team are very average Hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 28, 2007, 10:32:22 PM
Good to see a thread on Antrim hurling.  Much like Johnny Cool I just don' t think c'dall have enough fire power up front to beat Loughrea but Skinner has proven to be an astute man and they shouldn;t be underestimated.   I would have thought Mickey McCambridge would slot in at number 5 with Donal Natty McNaughton moving up the park a bit, possibly to number 11- Natty has one of the best/strongest swings in the game and he could keep the ball moving in the half forward line.  young magill could be the one to make way.  at this time of the year an option on the bench like big Carson is good to have- a few high balls and he will win his fair share.

A few surprises in that Antrim team today, I know they were short of number.  Have yet to be convinced re B Herron, surprised Tosh or Randal McDonnel didn;t start.  Also seems to be a lack of St Johns boys there- I thought they had a few coming thru?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 28, 2007, 11:04:31 PM
lads just wondering do creggan have a hurling team and what grade are they at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 29, 2007, 09:42:11 AM
Quote from: glens73 on January 27, 2007, 08:42:22 PM
Cushendall may well beat Loughrea but I'd doubt if they could handle Ballyhale Shamrocks who I'd imagine will beat Toomevara.

I sincerely hope they do get to the final as they've never been, but I'd fear they could get hammered a la Dunloy by an exceptional club team in Ballyhale.

I'm sure that's a chance Cushendall would like to take glens73.

I must say I really don't rate young McManus as a forward. In the Antrim final, roadstone didn't play him like a true fullback should and gave him too much latitude. With the time and space afforded to him he done well, he didn't get that same leeway against Hinphy in the first Ulster final and was non existant. In the replay he swept up behind his half backs and had a stormer but wasn't really in a forward position that often and didn't bother the scoreboard operator either. With Karl McKeegan staying very deep in front of his fullback to prevent the ball getting to McGonigle this system worked well for them, but I can't see Skinner adopting this tactic against Loughrea unless they are playing against a gale in the first half and aren't chasing the game.

Skinner faces the same problems a lot of club managers face, too many defenders and not enough scoring forwards and my theory on this is that it stems from 'win at all costs' juvenile hurling. It's not uncommon in juvenile teams that the defence is packed with your best hurlers and then whoever is left fights over the 13, 14 and 15 jerseys especially if the team requires kids quite young for that particular age group to put out a team.

The Dunloy team of the ninties were the exception to this when they had good scoring forwards in almost all the six forward berths. If one was having an off day, another would step up to the mark and so on.

Cushendall will be very reliant on Monty ,Aidan Delary and to a lesser extent on Shane McNaughton for their scores. If another forward can weight in two or three points from play then they're in with a very good chance.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 29, 2007, 10:20:12 AM
I think Creggans hurling team played in the lowest division, 4, until last year when 3 and 4 were consolidated.  So they play in 3 now.  They would be one of the weaker sides in the division
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 29, 2007, 10:21:09 AM
Quotelads just wondering do creggan have a hurling team and what grade are they at?

Yes they have a hurling team in Div 3 of the league. More focus placed on football at senior level but they have a decent juvenile setup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2007, 11:03:24 AM
Creggan are in division 3.

They've notably had a few boys in good county panels over the last few years so must be doing something right at underage as not too many from south west clubs get near county panels.

I think possibly the advent of the north antrim indoor hurling league has improved teams like them and their senior football team is young so won't be so much a conveyor belt over the next few years and some younger ones might get peeved with this and pay more attention to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 29, 2007, 01:32:06 PM
Any truth in the news that Dinny is in  charge of the shamrocks this year?  brings back memories of PJ furiously trying to find the mobile phone in the coat as Dinny tried to get messages to him during L'giels collapse in the county final....

Humpy and Dessie at Ballysatle.  What about Dunloy and Rossa- who is in there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 29, 2007, 01:43:21 PM
Heard Rossa have got Jim Nelson in from the Camogs. Think its the usual suspects for Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 29, 2007, 02:36:45 PM
Johnnecool would you say a lot of Ulster Hurling problems lie with the fact that they don't play quality opposition often enough? Thus learning to many bad habits and then when they go over the border they get it square on the chin....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 29, 2007, 03:21:14 PM


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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on January 30, 2007, 08:49:51 PM
Yes youbetterbelieveit Creggan have a hurling team. About as low a standard as you can get (being honest). Are you moving North?
GAC Meeting on Thursday night to organise leagues. I hope they do a better job than last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 30, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
Well you wouldn't say that about thier juvenile set-up. They are doing great work up there at the minute and making good progress from what I have seen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 31, 2007, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on January 29, 2007, 02:36:45 PM
Johnnecool would you say a lot of Ulster Hurling problems lie with the fact that they don't play quality opposition often enough? Thus learning to many bad habits and then when they go over the border they get it square on the chin....

That's probably a big part of it IMO but the actual speed at which the basic skills are carried out is probably the major difference between the top hurlers and the rest. We're (Nordies in general) inclined to dwell too long on the ball, probably because we need that time to get the feckin thing under control and then to decide what to do with it when we get it.

We get hung up a bit on how fast someone can run but if you take the likes of Eoin Kelly from Tipp, he isn't the best athelete but there's not many who can pick a ball without slowing down and turn a man as quick as him not to mention how quick he can strike a ball off either side when in confined spaces.

I've seen so many coaches run drills where the emphasis it to meet a ball coming the opposite direction at speed where most of the hurlers sprint out to meet the ball, then either stop or slow down to control it, then take off in a sprint again. I believe that the onus should be to continue sprinting through the whole exercise. The same applies for a lot of the shooting drills I've seen as well, guys mad sprinting then either stopping to shoot or turning to the side to get the shot away. There's very few intercounty hurlers in the North capable of doing both on a consistent basis.

You'll get away with these inadequacies against the inferior opposition but not against the better teams where time and space are at a minimum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 01, 2007, 03:02:50 AM
"Johnneycool" just when your on the subject a bout Eoin Kelly he's up given Cushendall a few training session's. Last week Cushendall lost a challenge to UCC by around 2-17 to 1-11. College Hurling can be a very high standard plus the fact Cushendall had a heavy training session the day before it. So its very hard to learn anything from that.

Declan Mc Killop is doubtfull after tearing a muscle. Two weeks ago a lad from Cork was up training Cushendall as-well. Apparently the lads trained Friday, Saturday and Sunday trying to make full youse of the trainer. It rained all weekend and now some of the lads were suffering from the flu. Other than that I don't know any further information  on Cushendall's preparation's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 01, 2007, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 01, 2007, 03:02:50 AM
"Johnneycool" just when your on the subject a bout Eoin Kelly he's up given Cushendall a few training session's. Last week Cushendall lost a challenge to UCC by around 2-17 to 1-11. College Hurling can be a very high standard plus the fact Cushendall had a heavy training session the day before it. So its very hard to learn anything from that.


Whilst its always good to hear a different voice with different drills at training I have reservations about trying to change the style or focus of a team at this late stage. It can do more harm that good IMO.

With their game only 10 or so days away I'd expect them to be easing up on the physical stuff and concentrating on the sharpness aspect of their hurling. At this stage tiredness is probably setting in with all the training etc, so skinner will need to ease up to ensure he has fresh legs on the day.

What sort of formation are they going with, is Mickey McCambridge starting?

How are the Gorts and Clooney Gaels getting on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2007, 12:04:21 PM
I don't think it's fair to ask them to reveil their tactics on the board Johnnycool! They have computers in Galway  ;)
There's a meeting of the GAc tonight to arrange the leagues for the coming year. Anybody know if changes to structures are to be proposed? Milltown Row was convinced towards the end of last year that there would be major changes for this coming season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on February 01, 2007, 12:56:44 PM
As far as i know the league and championships will be the exact same format as last year, but they are trying to improve the dates and time apart the games were.  Sarsfields to go up with St pauls going down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
yes, just to back up aontroim abu, no major changes just better consistency, hopefully with senior and reserve games on the same day!!!

also a South Antrim (beer belly league) championship to be played, McMurray Cup
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 01, 2007, 01:46:03 PM
Before the leauges start have they decided what form relegation will take or will that be sorted out in October?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 01, 2007, 02:06:21 PM
I'd imagine they will have to stick with the current format of 1 up; 1 down if they aren't changing anything else JC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 01, 2007, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 01:41:30 PM

also a South Antrim (beer belly league) championship to be played, McMurray Cup
I may consider a come back!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 01, 2007, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
yes, just to back up aontroim abu, no major changes just better consistency, hopefully with senior and reserve games on the same day!!!

I admire your optimism milltown. To my mind no one has held themselves accountable for the failings of last year, so I would be concerned that we may get the same again especially when you add in the "Sambo & Woody" factor come summertime. They'll be hoarding players big time and to hell with the rest. Too much intercounty training & matches in the summer months...its ruining the GAA at a club level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 02, 2007, 07:54:25 PM
On the subject of Cushendall, i just think the step up in level of opponent will be too much for them. The best they can hope for is a shitty day to act as an equaliser. They dont have the scoring forwards, i would also be worried about their keeper, he is really prone to dropping a clanger and did it in the drawn Ulster Final with Dungiven. I would think every mistake will be harshly punished.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tayto on February 02, 2007, 09:26:04 PM
How are youse set for the league lads? I'm thinking our visit to yourselves is going to be a vital game for both of us, i'd be a lot more confidence taking yez on down in the 'nell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 03, 2007, 11:15:06 AM
Tony Montana - you know v little.  A "shitty day" would do nothing for Cushendalls' chances. Cushendall would be a good hurling side in the purest sense and would suit a dry sod and ball.  From viewing several DVDs of Loughrea I belive it will be a 50-50 game, probably down to desire to win on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 03, 2007, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: BottleOfStout on February 03, 2007, 11:15:06 AM
Tony Montana - you know v little.  A "shitty day" would do nothing for Cushendalls' chances. Cushendall would be a good hurling side in the purest sense and would suit a dry sod and ball.  From viewing several DVDs of Loughrea I belive it will be a 50-50 game, probably down to desire to win on the day.


Bottle of Stout it is heartening to know the Dall have such dilligent scouts as yourself. So you think a team that had a fair degree of difficulty in winning the Antrim Championship against a team of chokers will match a team that beat the reigning All Ireand Champions (Portumna for your information)??? Youse have a dodgy keeper and not enough scoring, quality forwards....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 03, 2007, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Montana on February 03, 2007, 05:30:11 PM
Youse have a dodgy keeper and not enough scoring, quality forwards....

Sounds like you are referring to the "chokers" who Cushendall comfortably defeated in the Antrim Final by seven points.  What evidence supports your argument.  The teams have never played each other before so there is no form guideline.  How many time s whay so seen Loughrea play to know that it will be an insurmountable step-up in opponent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 03, 2007, 09:25:49 PM
Bottle of Horsepiss or whatever your called........It is very rare for teams from different provinces to have played each other, strange as it may sound. I would have to say Loughreas from in beating All ireland Champions of previous year is impressive,and regardless of who they beat the fact that they came out of Galway, seen by many as one of the most competitive championships in Ireland makes them strong favourites against Cushendall whether you like it or not.........I have also listed Eastwoods odds to maybe ram the point home a bit harder cos i can smell the smoke coming from your ears....Ballyhale 4/5 Loughrea 9/4 Toomevara 7/2 Cushendall 16/1. Over & out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 05, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
OK the Holy Grail for 3 Antrim Clubs of getting to an All-Ireland Final in Croke Park is almost upon us. Any thoughts on what the outcomes will be / news of preparations from the 3 clubs?

SENIOR
I do fancy the 'Dall to win a close encounter with Loughrea - only to stick it up all the begrudgers that have written them off - heard Monty played against Antrim in yesterday's friendly and was off the pace - big gamble to play him?

INTERMEDIATE
Killimordaly have a good hurling tradition, and I think may prove too strong for the Gorts unless they cant get more out of their forwards to take the heat off Nipper.

JUNIOR
Hard to know as Skehana are not Galway champions - think they were put out in Semi's, and had little competition in Connacht.  Tight game could go either way probably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2007, 04:17:45 PM
Dabbling with what was a pretty tight defence could be Cushendalls downfall. I hope they are not pushing the panic button trying to get a star player ready before he is ready himself. Micky Monty's game is so reliant on his fitness level that it would be a massive gamble to put him in the starting 15 IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 05, 2007, 09:13:01 PM
Michael is 100% physically ready.   Problem is being mentally right and lack of competitive games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 05, 2007, 09:38:27 PM
Bottle Of Stout......And where is he going to get the required competitive games in the next 6 days?? There is no substitute for playing matches and unfortunately he hasnt been able to get them. It would be foolhardy to risk him from the start, from what i saw of Cushendall yesterday and Micky in particular it will be a huge task, he looked way off the pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 05, 2007, 10:15:20 PM
If used at all Mick monty should be used coming off the bench to give fans and players a psychological lift early in the second half. There is no way anyone could come back into this grade of match after such a long lay off and last the full game. Bring him on after 5-10 mins of the second half to plug a gap somewhere if he manages 20-25 mins of the required grade of hurling after such a lay off it would be as much as could be asked of any player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 06, 2007, 09:10:03 AM
Tony Montana - your last post is correct.  The problem Cushendall have is the lack of any quality on the bench and this may force the management teams hand.    Would I be correct in assuming that you belong to that strangely large band of "antrim" hurling followers who will take delight in cushendalls defeat next sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 06, 2007, 09:36:27 AM
Re Cushendall getting beat, yes Bottle of Piss you are correct, i am proud to be part of this group.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim__Lad on February 06, 2007, 09:53:42 AM
Quote from: Tony Montana on February 06, 2007, 09:36:27 AM
Re Cushendall getting beat, yes Bottle of Piss you are correct, i am proud to be part of this group.....

Tony, it is people like you that make me sick. People in Antrim should get behind and support C'dall or whoever represents Antrim in the AI Series. If C'dall where to get stuffed as you probaly hope what would this say for Antrim Hurling and how could it help hurling in antrim what-so-ever. At the minute C'dall are the best team in Antrim and if they get get stuffed it doesnt say much for the other clubs in Antrim or your own club.

As for Mick Monty i was at the match and as far as i saw although he started in 3/4's he was moved cause someone got hurt, then had to be taken off as he got hurt himself, he is one if not the most dedicated and fittest hurlers cushendall have and i have no doubt will cope with the full 60 mins. There where other players who looked worse than he did, in fact Pinky roasted Karl McKeegan.

And as Bottle days i think C'dall would far prefer a good dry day rather than a shitty day

ps How much of Loughrea have you seen Tony anyway. and regards the keeper, who was it made a clanger in the county final (incase your not sure it was the current county keeper who i still believe is the best keeper in Antrim but proves all keepers drop a few clangers)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 07, 2007, 11:51:11 AM
What has happened to the posts on this site, there was 5 pages yesterday and at the time of this post there is only 4 with no new post since yesterday morning........
Title: Ádh mor oraibh!
Post by: aontroim on February 08, 2007, 11:00:01 AM
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Davy sends his best wishes to all the Antrim teams for Sunday's games especially Clooney Gaels  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Montana on February 08, 2007, 08:54:25 PM
Does anyone want to talk me through how the Dall are gonna win on Sunday, i have heard all the usual cliched bullshit pubtalk, "get stuck in" "die for the jersey" so on and so on......I watched them on Sunday and i know they were missing players so i will not read too much into a friendly. In all honesty if it had been any team with a bit of balls and courage playing them in the Antrim Final we wouldnt be having this conversation, Loughguile had them beat then did as they always do.......went back into their shell when they needed a few leaders. And that Dungiven team is one of the worst i have seen in the Ulster Championships, i know i am gonna get the usual clowns on saying "nobody like us we dont care" & "why is the whole county not getting behind us" but i just want a bit of sensible debate & no time wasters please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Colonel Kurtz on February 08, 2007, 09:48:49 PM
When are Cushendall naming their team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 08, 2007, 09:52:32 PM
Cushendall have a number of factors in their favour Tony, firstly a great team spirit and never say die attitude which has brought the back to back county titles despite their lack of star names. Secondly a very astute manager who has the ability to shuffle his pack when things are not going well. Skinner may not have much on the bench but he gets the absolute most out of what it is. Thirdly it is a hurling match in february, these games can be a lottery as it is completely the wrong time of years to be playing hurling. Finally Tony I do not know what age you are but I am old enough to remember the Loughgiel team that won in 1983, I was at the county final that year the all ireland semi in Loughgiel and the replayed final in Casement. That Loughgiel side were not the best side ever to leave Antrim, they were not even the best ever Loughgiel side but they raised their game when it mattered most and that is what championship hurling is all about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 08, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
By the way does anyone have any directions to the pitch in Mullingar?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2007, 12:01:05 AM
Think youre being a bit unfair TM (and could I suggest a little blinkered) in your opinions. I agree with SCB's points. Cushendall are a well drilled side. Their defense work well as a pack, they play deep and move the ball into open spaces up front where they have a hard working, mobile forward line that I think will cause a few problems. I think they will win on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2007, 09:14:00 AM
Tony to be honest you're being ridiculous TM.

Loughgiel may have been poor in the second half of the county final but Cushendall were immense.

Cushendall have often been a victim of complacency in competitions further on than Antrim and that , I believe, was the reason they drew with Dungiven. Remember they were beaten by a London team in the 90s and a Ballycran team who they should have walked through.

They struggle with a) a settled midfield and b) a presence in the full forward position. However their defense is very very solid, McKillop at midfield has been outstanding and they have excellent ability to get scores in Aidan Delargy and Conor McCambridge with Magill able to chip in too.

With all the above said I think your views are completely blinkered. They are no average team - they are one however who on certain occassions struggle to raise their game and can be poor. I would very much doubt they will struggle to raise their game on Sunday - it's an AI semi and they would be severe underdogs. It will be very tough - but if they believe and play with character then I think they can do it. I also have a funny feeling that given they're not entirely settled at midfield they will maybe put Micky McCambridge in at midfield.

All that said - good luck to them, Gort NaMona and Ahoghill. I hope you all win and if you don't win give it your all and leave nothing behind. The attitude of some southern counties towards hurling up here is appalling - do antrim and ulster hurling proud.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 09, 2007, 09:20:41 AM
I wouldnt exactly say Tony Montana was being ridiculous. I think he had some fair comments even though he can get a bit carried away at times, there are people in Cushendall who will tell you they are the weakest Cushendall team to go down south. Its all very well having a well drilled outfit but you need something extra as the bar will be raised several notches in terms of opposition they have faced so far. I would love to see them sticking it to the knackers but i just dont think they have enough class..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 09, 2007, 12:10:19 PM
Glad to see the last few posters have added some rational balanced debate on this. 

As regards Cushendalls midfield, there is a big question mark over Declan McKillop's fitness ( stomach muscle injury).  I think Cushendall could (will )  struggle without him.  The team linout is fairly settled although there could be changes at half-back and midfield depending on where Michael McCambridge plays,  whether Declan is fit , or where to get the best out of Aiden Delargy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
CCC league proposals sent to clubs today.

Hurling leagues to start on 18th April with 7 rounds of games being played on Wednesday nights until they switch to Sundays on July 1st.

Coincidentally that means there are no hurling league games fixed for the day after Ulster games on Saturdays - only football so dual clubs will end up fielding weakened UHL teams while hurling only clubs can field what they want.

All proposals up for discussion with clubs in a meeting with CCC in a couple of weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:58:38 PM
PROPOSED C'SHIP DATES

Cant make out the differnce between SHC and IHC /. JHC so the dates are;

GROUP GAMES
Sat 4th August
Wed 8th August
Sun 12th August
Wed 22nd August
Sat/Sun 25/26 Aug
Sun 9th Sept

SEMI-FINAL
Sat/Sun 22/23 Sept

IHC / JHC FINAL
Sun 30th Sept

SHC FINAL
Sun 7th October
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 09, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
Any words on which clubs have entered the legues this year and what the make up of the divisions is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 09, 2007, 03:24:58 PM
so the reserve hurlers dont get to play any games untill July!!!! the county board are full of shite. typical though no change as shown by championship games every 4 days, great idea ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2007, 03:57:29 PM
Could anyone post or PM me the proposed dates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 09, 2007, 09:19:52 PM
Just read on Hogan Stand that Declan Grunter wont be playing on Sunday for Cushendall, but from what i have heard its horseshit and he will be lining out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 09, 2007, 10:19:40 PM
Declan MCKILLOP has a stomach muscle injury and is a serious doubt but Cushendall could not afford to do without him and he will probably start.  Any talk of him not starting is only rumour due to the injury not a play by the club !!!.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sausalito Bay on February 11, 2007, 05:31:25 PM
WELL DONE CLOONEY GAELS!!!!!!!!!

Beat SKehana by a point after extra time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 11, 2007, 05:35:37 PM
Any word on how Gort Na Mona got on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2007, 09:16:09 PM
Gort Na Mona beat by 2/3.

Great news about Clooney Gaels after a tough day watching Cushendall and then the 2nd half of the rugby in the Carrickdale on the way up.

Not going into much detail about Cushendall - real shame I thought. They had chances, numerous frees missed, quite a few wides from open play. I will say however that if they keep their heads right, take a break and go hard at it again I would be surprised if anyone in Antrim willtouch them this year (pleasantly surprised that is!).
Thought Aidan Delargy had a great game, should have been midfield earlier.

If god is interesting in hurling at all I secured my place in heaven this weekend.
Went to the other semi final Toomevara v Ballyhale in Portlaoise yesterday (I would bet my house that if they don't freeze on the day Ballyhale will win the final - this semi final was on a different level to the one today in Mullingar. In all honesty Toomevara's first half performance was as good as I have seen club hurling - a real shame they collapsed and a real shame that Tommy Dunne may have got sent off in what could be his last ever game).
Then after that game I went to the Antrim challenge against Laois (well most of it). Antrim arrived 40 minutes after throw in was meant to happen and then came onto the field with random numbers on their backs. There was a slight breeze and Laois went in at half time about 2-7 0-2 up (or so). They mounted a bit of a fight back before we left with about 15 minutes left. I only hope the Cushendall men and a few who were missing yesterday can improve Antrim. Was impressed to see what I think was the game being videoed by someone from Antrim - we need to move on and move on fast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reiteoir on February 12, 2007, 10:17:58 AM
Just noticed the post about the challenge match against Laois. If we are running late, sending a team out like a raggle-taggle band is there any value in playing such matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 13, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
CCC league proposals sent to clubs today.

Hurling leagues to start on 18th April with 7 rounds of games being played on Wednesday nights until they switch to Sundays on July 1st.

Coincidentally that means there are no hurling league games fixed for the day after Ulster games on Saturdays - only football so dual clubs will end up fielding weakened UHL teams while hurling only clubs can field what they want.

All proposals up for discussion with clubs in a meeting with CCC in a couple of weeks time.


any more word on the proposed leagues? do you have the proposal? is it a one way league again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 09:20:58 AM
Antrim (NHL v Galway): DD Quinn;
B McAuley, J McKeague, S Delargy; C Herron, J Campbell, M Molloy; K McKeegan, B Herron; K Stewart, L Watson, M Herron; P Richmond,
N McAuley, P Shields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 09:50:46 AM
Good team, glad to see the Cushendall boys back in, hope they aren't feeling to bad after last weeks game. Is this our strongest team? i know Tosh is injured, but this gives Karl Stewart a run in the team hopefully he will make the most of it.

Team heading down on the Sat. so they should be well rested, i'm looking for the lads to be fully committed for the 70 mins. and contest every ball.

crowd of us heading down on the Sat. night will make sure the lads stay out of the bars :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 10:00:41 AM
There's still a few to come in I'd say.

Micky Monty, maybe young McManus and like you say Tosh.

What about Quinn from GNM - haven't seen much of him - is he up to it?

Would prefer to see Watson on the wing as he isn't big enough for that rule.

Would expect McCambridge, Cunning, Joey and Martin Scullion to stilll challenge for places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 16, 2007, 10:03:54 AM
Never seen N McAuley playing full forward before, excellent hurler, good option at full back or wing half but not sure if he's a full forward, otherwise strong looking team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 16, 2007, 10:14:20 AM
Quite a lot of young blood in the team that I don;t know much about.  still be convinced about N McAuley, J McKeague and P Shiels.  they havn;t proven themselves enough for me but I am all for giving them a chance.  can;t argue with S delargy in at corner back- one of c'dalls most consistent performers last year.  Can someone tell me if B Herron can hurl?  having payed against LD a fair few times and i can;lt say I have ever been impressed?  Ciaran and Michael are worth their place IMO but Michael could do with being brought down a peg or two, serious attitidue.  Others I would like to see get a chance- young hippy (too young??), randal mc donnel, mc manus.

I think the panel and team in general show that we have good back but lacking in real quality forwards (bar p richmond).  we need a few like greg o kane and ally elliot but they jsut arn;t there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
 This team is obviously showing at training and challenge games. Plenty of height and fitness. All players are competent stick men, baring Brendan Herron maybe. But he brings athleticism, when Brendan and Mc Cambridge played as wing backs during Dinny's first year they played well. Once Mc Cambridge comes back and others join the panel it will get better. Competitions for places will only bring this team on.

Who is missing from the panel that could bring it on? Nipper Quinn is in good form, and Aidan Delargy has been one of the better players from last season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 16, 2007, 10:41:30 AM
1. DD Quinn (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
2. Barney McAuley (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
3. James McKeague (Cú Chulainn Dun Lathai)
4. Sean Delargy (Ruairí Og Bun Abhann Dalla)
5. Ciarán Herron (Lamh Dheárg)
6. Johnny Campbell (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
7. Malachy Molloy (Cú Chulainn Dun Lathai)
8. Karl McKeegan (Ruairí Og Bun Abhann Dalla) - Captain
9. Brendan Herron (Lamh Dheárg)
10. Karl Stewart (Naomh Gall)
11. Liam Watson (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
12. Micheál Herron (Lamh Dheárg)
13. Patrick Richmond (Cú Chulainn Dun Lathai)
14. Neal McAuley (Mhic Uillín Baile an Chaistil)
15. Paul Shields (Cú Chulainn Dun Lathai)

16. Chris O'Connell (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
17. Sean Burke (Naomh Gall)
18. Barry McFall (Naomh Eoin)
19. Brian McFall (Naomh Eoin)
20. Aidan Delargy (Ruairí Og Bun Abhann Dalla)
21. Martin Scullion (Na Seamróga Loch gCaol)
22. Michael Magill (Tir na nÓg)
23. Aaron Graffin (Ruairí Og Bun Abhann Dalla)
24. Colm Duffin (Tir na nÓg)

Joey Scullion out at the minute with broken finger (just had it wired up recently).  AD included in the panel - good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 10:56:27 AM
Great to see AD on the panel. The three best players for getting scores in club hurling I'd say would be himself, Paddy Richmond and Liam Watson. Haven't seen enough of Stewart but have seen from reports he can rack up the scores.

Is Declan McKillop to come onto the panel? Based , not on Sunday's but the antrim/ulster ones, on his performances he should merit a place. Is Conor Cunning on the panel?

Poor young O'Connell -- sub to DD in club and county!

The St Galls lad Burke - wasn't he minor last year? What kind of hurler is he? I don't think he made the minor tem last year but perhaps that's because he was concentrating on football?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 11:03:07 AM
Sean Burke is not your most skillful hurler but has a serious engine and will walk through brick walls, very fit, strong for a young lad and from our perspective good to see the lad getting serious training and games. midfield would be his position.

karl Stewart is top notch, very brave skillful strong hurler who gets stuck in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 11:08:29 AM
What's OGrady like as a hurler?

Have heard good reports about him - would he not be worth a try?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 11:19:19 AM
Ciaran O'Grady is an excellent hurlers currently playing for queens (is that game today or yesterday against DCU, Ryan Cup, he would make their football team) our most consistent hurler along with Karl Stewart. Big engine very committed to hurling.  Great hands strong in the tackle and a box to box man. Good attitude as well. He would be a big asset to Antrim hurling, don't think he ever got the call though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 11:30:39 AM
Queens got spanked by DCU unfortunately. 4-10 to 1-6 I think it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 11:34:45 AM
With the league proposals handed back to the county yesterday does anybody have any idea if their clubs have entered a reserve hurling team? With no reserve hurling until July does this seem fair on the seconds.

Our club in their thick wisdom have pulled our reserve team and entered us into a South Antrim league. A league that we fought (literally) to get of. We entered the all county with our seconds and progressed every year wining leagues and the junior championship along the way, until we got to Division 2 were we were competing, the seconds were getting proper games and everyone was happy............until they brought back reserve hurling and low and behold 7 games was the max. Now our club will drop us five divisions to play in the Beer Belly league, football club or what.

So there unrest in the club.

bad result for Queens, we had 3 players on the panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2007, 11:43:49 AM
What's the rule on reserve teams entering the UHL? I assume that wouldn't be allowed?

North antrim leagues are good for reserves - seems like south antrim aren't though. Is it not allowed for reserve teams to enter the antrim leagues at all?

They still do in the football.

Sounds a shambles but then given hurling fixtures no surprise.

With no reserve games it'll tear clubs apart. No breeding ground for young boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 11:55:28 AM
we wanted in the first year to enter our reserves in the lower league of the Ulster hurling, not allowed.

the problem with belfast teams seconds is everybody will be clumped together, st agnes, st Teresa's, mc dee's. no offence to these teams but we would beat their first teams with our seconds. not competitive, the teams that will be strong if they have entered wil be St Johns and Rossa. two hard games for the reserves seems unfair. no development there. management was not consulted on the dropping of teams. madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 16, 2007, 12:02:35 PM
Good to get such an objective opinion of the St Galls players, you would think they are headed for Croke Park on St Patricks day instead of Ballyhale & Loughrea. Karl Stewart for one has never done it for the county and has had numerous chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 12:15:22 PM
Syd have you a problem with Naomh Gall? we were ther last year in the football final, and the talent is in the club to do well in the hurling, thats the problem with being sucessfull at one code.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 16, 2007, 12:18:32 PM
Dont have any problem with St Galls, football will always take precedence in your club so to talk about how you would do potentially is a moot point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 12:26:12 PM
totally agree the football comes first, but having worked with the teams for a lot of years i know the talent in hurling is there. Antrim are potentionally a geat team in Hurling with the right direction the could compete, is that a moot point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 16, 2007, 12:33:11 PM
How long have we been saying "potentially" the hurlers are in Antrim to make a breakthrough? Put it like this, on the Cork hurling team there is maybe 1 or 2 of them that would take a drink and those that do cut it completely before championship starts. Would we be able to do that in Antrim? can you imagine Cork or Kilkenny arriving 40 minutes late for a challenge match, as we did last week against Laois? I would love for us to compete but we are light years behind the Corks, Kilkennys of this world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 12:42:33 PM
yeah your right big drink culture in Antrim, you only have to go to the BOT on a wed, Sat. night and all the best players are there. it's up to the current mangement to change that but the attitudes of the players need changing, if Woody and Sambo bring what they did with the minors in three years we should hopefully be competing for honours.

i was there as an 18 year watching Sambo and Woody play for Antrim against Tipp.  casement was packed for training sessions that sort of thing needs to come back. i will be there in Galway this Sunday (could have picked a better game) to see if this is a team on the way up.

will give a good report come tuesday,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 16, 2007, 12:55:24 PM
I hope the minors do come through but historically there is never more than about 4 or 5 that keep at it to that level, especially when they discover the joys of drink. I thought it would be a totally different setup from before but from what i have heard about last week it was a bit of a joke. I was never Jingos biggest fan and believe he took some unfair criticism about players behaviour, but its difficult for a manager to account for every player when they are away. He trated them as adults (which they are supposed to be) and left them to their own devices the night before away matches down south but fellas were sneaking away to the pub and arriving in at 3am blocked. So that needs to be one of the first things nipped in the bud. In fairness Jingo didnt do himself any favours when he then played the pissed players instead of putting them off the panel. End of rant!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 16, 2007, 12:57:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 16, 2007, 12:42:33 PM
yeah your right big drink culture in Antrim, you only have to go to the BOT on a wed, Sat. night and all the best players are there. it's up to the current mangement to change that but the attitudes of the players need changing,

And we all wonder how the people in question can train all year long and still look so unfit  :-\, and even so we hold them up as "class acts" and "rolel models" within our county and others. I do think a national strategy needs to be introduced to ensure that every club has within its structures the ability to address this very important issue. There is nothing worse than seeing talent being pisssed up against a wall....yet the seems to be an acceptability about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on February 16, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Admit I`m more of a football man, but would know both Dominic and Terence well, and would like to wish them all the best for Sunday and hope this is the start of a "new revolution" in Antrim hurling.Think it is very important that we all see this as the start of a three or four year journey that will at least bring us into view of the promised land.

There will be upsets along the way, and maybe times when we all wonder if its going to be possible, but the ONLY chance we have is if we all get behind Woody and Sambo from the start, and give them both all the support and facilities that are available.

I have total faith in these two men to get every ounce out of the best players in the county, BUT IT IS A PROCESS, and will take time. Lets be honest, our strength lies in the 17-20 age group, and it will be at least 3 or 4 years to bulk these players up so that they can physically mix it with the best. Being a good wee hurler wont count for much against the pent up Clares and Kilkennys of this world.

Good luck to all involved. BELIEVE it IS possible.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 16, 2007, 07:36:21 PM
I think you are right Johnjo, we need to be patient with the Antrim team.  Although the minor did not actually win a game of any major significance at least they were competitive.  Hopefully in 2 or 3 years time the seniors will also do the same as the young lads are integrated with the more experience players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 17, 2007, 10:52:50 PM
MilltownRow....What is happening at St Galls, has there been some sort of fallout over what division the reserve hurling team is entering. There seems to be some strong views on it on your website, a bit of a football/hurling divide. Maybe thats not accurate but hopefully you can fill us in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 18, 2007, 01:33:37 AM
Syd the Sailor, you are a sad poof. You sound like an ignorant culchie. Heh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 11:57:46 AM
Arthur you dirty ****. What gives you the right to come on heRE and abuse people? We are trying to deal with the burning issues of Antrim hurling, like what kind of beer the boys were drinking in Galway last night in preparation for todays match. Its boys like you that we need to weed out of this forum,fuckin backpacker.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on February 18, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
Arthur Friend, why dont you come on here and give Jumbo and the boys a bit of support for todays game instead of talking shite. You are probably the kind of fella that has never lifted a stick before but have an opinion on everything. Stick dis in your mouth f**got........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 18, 2007, 01:40:57 PM
Syd the sailor and the Truth, abuse indeed! Tsk tsk, yous don't like the taste of your own medicine.  I will be, of couse, flying down to watch the match in my helicopter while you will prob be out worrying sheep or whatever is is you get your kicks from. Wherever Antrim go, my helicopter follows, thats the rule for me. Are you as dedicated? I think not.  And of course, I will be wishing SAMBO and the boys all the best before the match. Yous are no true Antrim fans by the sounds of things.

Gut to you man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 03:35:44 PM
Arthur, its a surface to air missile that your helicopter needs. I have been supporting Antrim in their darkest days, im not a johnny cum lately like you. I think Sambo should change his nickname, (there may be copyright issues though) as we are trying to stamp racism out of our society, unless you are an Ulster rugby fan......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 18, 2007, 05:04:39 PM
what the f**k went wrong with antrim today?

stuffed again

in my opinion too many of the players are not athletic enough--they are carrying too much weight

if u look at the killkennys and corks of this world almost all their players are superb athletes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 05:10:58 PM
Gold....Our boys just dont have the discipline or commitment to live with the Kilkennys/Corks. On last years Cork team there was about 2/3 of them that actually drank. Could we say the same? Our players/management have to realise that matches are not won by talking & endless soundbites in the papers but on the training and playing pitch.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 18, 2007, 05:18:19 PM
Well said Syd couldnt agree more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 18, 2007, 06:13:07 PM
Syd the Sailor, despite your obviously being a bit light on the loafers (all those lonely days and nights on the southern seas, no doubt) I'd say I have to agree with you about alcohol being the problem with the Antrim hurlers.

Its just as well Sambo(TM) has given up his column in the Irish News!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 18, 2007, 06:16:16 PM
Well Arthur he was always quick to put the knife into Dinny/Jingo in his column so it will be interesting to see how he deals with the media especially if the hammerings like today continue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gnevin on February 19, 2007, 12:04:21 AM
Their was talk of Antrim under-age playing in Leinster with a view on the Senior team playing , What you think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BottleOfStout on February 19, 2007, 11:17:45 AM
Gnevin.  I agree with such proposals.  The Ulster championship is a complete irrevelance now esp with no route to All-Ireland from  it.  Both minor and Senior should enter Leinster asap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
I wonder if the players that so publicly wanted a change of manager last year feel Sambo & Woody have taken them, as they put it, to "the next level"........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on February 19, 2007, 01:24:00 PM
Syd, it seems you are revelling in the defeat! Sambo and Woody are undertaking a PROCESS. It will take at least a few years, and the managing the drink culture is just one part of that. Bulking up our players, core stability and all that, is just another part.

I accept that Jingo must be wondering "what the heck", but the bottom line for Antrim hurling is that we must row in behind the new management and give them our full support.

New level comments are not relevent. Sambo and Woody have played themselves at a level our current panellists can only dream of. Its about getting back there again, and we all  need a lot of patience. There will be no more defeats like yesterday when this team finds their feet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 19, 2007, 02:28:01 PM
Johnjoe.....I am certainly not "revelling" in defeat and never have. I have followed Antrim the length and breadth of the country. What i am getting at is the bullshit i have been listening to all winter, that because Sambo & Woody were taking over we were gonna be far more competitive, i cant see it and i know its early days but Ger Loughnane said Antrim "gave up", i think we need to address that before we worry about "core strength" or players "bulking up". And i was also alluding to the way the 2 players went about things last year, whether they like it or not they are going to be in the spotlight even more this year because they were so public in their support for Sambo & Woody. I know its the start of a process but lets just say the start has been les than impressive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on February 19, 2007, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on February 19, 2007, 12:04:21 AM
Their was talk of Antrim under-age playing in Leinster with a view on the Senior team playing , What you think

Would Antrim's under age teams be able to compete with the Leinster teams? would they take heavy defeats and loose confidence?

It is a good idea to compete against better teams to improve your own performance, but would it work with the under aged teams as they move up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2007, 05:03:38 PM
The last couple of years they'd have been fit to compete with, and possibly beat, the best in Leinster.

On an average year they should at least be fit to compete with the likes of Laois and maybe Offaly as they possibly don't produce too many strong underage teams due to county size. Beating Kilkennys and Wexfords might be too big an ask but in the odd good year you never know.

I always thought a problem was that up until minor antrim competed in B championships. This then led to a big step up come AI semi or quarter final time at minor level which was just too big a shock to the system.

The last Antrim teams to play in Leinster included Sambo and the like and you saw how they developed at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tayto on February 19, 2007, 05:24:13 PM
Well i think Antrim and Galway should join up with the top Leinster counties and form an "ireland minus munster Championship" at all age levels. The Antrim minors from the last couple of years would have competed well from the little I saw.

The name might need a bit of work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 19, 2007, 06:32:33 PM
Syd the Sailor,

And what have you ever done for Antrim hurling (besides moan?). I bet you wouldn't even cut the grade...you sound like a woman scorned.

Oh yeah..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2007, 11:10:12 PM
AF, I've been reading through each of your 4 posts. Are you a lover scorned? ::)

I look forward to some valuable contributions from yourself when you're over him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 20, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on February 17, 2007, 10:52:50 PM
MilltownRow....What is happening at St Galls, has there been some sort of fallout over what division the reserve hurling team is entering. There seems to be some strong views on it on your website, a bit of a football/hurling divide. Maybe thats not accurate but hopefully you can fill us in.

Syd, if you're in a dual club you are always going to have a divide of sorts, but the current debate at the club has nothing to do with that. The debate we are having (and hopefully will be sorted out this week) is about the decision of the committee to pull out our reserve hurling team and enter it into the South Antrim league (beer belly league).  5/6 years ago we pulled out of the league because of the way it was run, games called off referees not showing and the roughness of the teams that we played.

We entered the All County leagues and this was the best move, having won division 4 and 3 and picking up a junior Championship and losing the final the next year our seconds got regular games and championship games. We then got to division 2 were we found it hard but managed to stay there until they brought in the reserve leagues.

Now our club want us to drop 4 leagues to play in a league that is pants, our senior hurlers will have no one pushing them for places and the standard of our seconds will drop as they are not playing at a higher grade. Other clubs have now dropped out of the reserves and I think this is wrong.

The thing about our web site is that we have a forum like this, it's for a bit of craic and some debates can be a bit heated but no one has fallen out. All the the posters are passionate about the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 20, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
Skull,

You hit the nail on the head..he wouldnt give me a reacharound, thats my beef!

Actually I agree with a lot of what Syd has to say about the new setup. I'm especially disgusted with the way Jingo was ousted. A wee birdie told me Dr. Doolittle himself was egging players on to support a regime change. Any truth in this Syd?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 20, 2007, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on February 20, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
Skull,

You hit the nail on the head..he wouldnt give me a reacharound, thats my beef!

Actually I agree with a lot of what Syd has to say about the new setup. I'm especially disgusted with the way Jingo was ousted. A wee birdie told me Dr. Doolittle himself was egging players on to support a regime change. Any truth in this Syd?

True Arthur, Dr Mc Sparran "allegedly" went to one player in particular and "allegedly" asked him to go to the press to express his dismay at Jingos regime and that a change was needed.This player refused and pointed out there were a few players that were not over enamoured with the impending dream team of Sambo & Woody, but in the end Doctor John got his two willing lackeys to go to the press.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2007, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on February 20, 2007, 01:42:16 PM
Skull,
You hit the nail on the head..he wouldnt give me a reacharound, thats my beef!

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on February 20, 2007, 02:14:06 PM
At the end of the day, Dr John will be judged on how Antrim hurlers do. Coming from the heart of the Glens he knows that better than most. He obviously believes strongly that Sambo and Woody are the men that can, IF ANYONE CAN, take Antrim hurling forward during his regime.

I fully understand that Jingo will have his supporters, but so too would have Mickey Culbert! By the way Antrim footballers lost to Wicklow by 9 points, a game Mickey Culbert`s side won last year.

But there is nothing to be gained by gloating. Our only chance is putting the shoulder to the wheel, together, and attempt to drive forward. Negativity will solve nothing.

Thanks to Jingo for a big, respected effort, but its upwards and onwards. Its a long haul, and the wake up call on Sunday is only the beginning. FFS, five minors got a run out on Sunday, I am led to believe! C`mon lads, give the thing a chance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on February 20, 2007, 02:26:34 PM
Johnjoe would you agree that maybe some players have been discarded too early and that Sambo & Woody are perhaps hell bent on blooding these ex minors whether they are up to it or not? I find it a bit disturbing that they "gave up" on Sunday, you would have thought they would be running through walls to impress the new setup....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 20, 2007, 03:09:18 PM
ST BRIGIDS

I have heard that they are potentially setting up a hurling team - I think I remember a St Brigids fella on this board?

Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 20, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
St Bridget's had an u10/u12 squad 2 or 3 years ago. They played friendlies and tournaments, as you do at that level. They never got the numbers required to enter the league when the kids grew up a bit. There was word that some of the middle class mothers thought hurling was too rough for wee Johnnie.
I know a couple of boys who are close to them & I'd be surprised if there was any interest in starting a team again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2007, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: johnjoe on February 20, 2007, 02:14:06 PM
At the end of the day, Dr John will be judged on how Antrim hurlers do. Coming from the heart of the Glens he knows that better than most. He obviously believes strongly that Sambo and Woody are the men that can, IF ANYONE CAN, take Antrim hurling forward during his regime.

JohnJoe I think John McSparran should be judged on how Antrim Hurling is doing rather than just the Antrim hurlers. For too long now the focus has went off the importance of developing talent through club competitions. Antrims performance on Sunday is a reflection of where Antrim hurling is at at the minute

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But there is nothing to be gained by gloating. Our only chance is putting the shoulder to the wheel, together, and attempt to drive forward. Negativity will solve nothing.

Thanks to Jingo for a big, respected effort, but its upwards and onwards. Its a long haul, and the wake up call on Sunday is only the beginning. FFS, five minors got a run out on Sunday, I am led to believe! C`mon lads, give the thing a chance!

The difficult question JJ is what do all these cliches mean? No one in Antrim is stepping back and asking questions of the way we are going about trying to bring about success. I gaurentee you they wouldn't be able to tell you what they would define as success for Antrim Hurling.

The focus in where efforts are made need to change. If I had the reins I would

Ensure that management teams can look after a senior div 1/2 side ONLY if one of them has a level 2 coaching qualification - this should help standardise the level of coaching taking place at club training sessions throughout. Div 3/4 sides would need Level 1 minimum. This could also include the minor grade

Collective county training sesssions could then be cut to once a week at most

Bring back a regular league program with full squads. Cut back on County Friendlies to free up more weekends

Get financial sponsorship for the leagues to provide a bit of an incentive to every team to compete (eg Money for the top 3 sides in each division)

Market the leagues better. Get every club to develop strategies to encourage local people BACK into attending hurling matches

The County Manager(s) with the extra time available to them could attend more matches and see who is cutting it in the leagues. He/They could also attend some club training sessions/even take a few.  Doing this would give every club the understanding of the level/pace of training required by the County Manager to bring players on. He should pick his panel before any game based on those who are performing well in the league

Players chosen to represent the County then prepare on their own 7 days before any matches in the summer

To me this approach provides a much better balance between County and Club activities and will reinvigorate the game at a local level. In time the benefits will come about at County level and I can gaurentee you that performances (at County Level ) at the very least will be no worse.

Massive restructuring like this is needed otherwise we will go slowly but surely in the some direction we have been for the past 10-15 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on February 20, 2007, 05:16:01 PM
Truth, the short answer is that maybe some of those minors are not physically up to it - yet. But they need to get in there and see where the required physical level is. Some of them will be a lot wiser after Sunday`s whitewash. If you look at our 25-30 year olds, well I apologise if this causes offence, but how many do you see playing in an all-ireland final. How many of them have the sheer mental strength, and the lifestyle to match. Sorry, but I see a lot of comfort zone stuff going on there.

The bottom line is this. Sambo and Woody need a squad of 20 players plus, who will have the skill level, the core strength, the balance, the mental strength, and very sensible lifestyles. That is work in progress, and will take time. A youth policy is a risk strategy for instant results, but there is no quick fix available. Its players now aged 18-22 who hold the key to our future. Woody and Sambo know that. Maybe one or two very good soldiers a year or two older might slip through the net, but the exception rather than the rule.

Skull, class reply big yin. I think if two or three brains got together, your blueprint could be put in place. Get Sambo, Woody and Dick Mc Keague into a think tank with you, and I think the structures are flexible enough that some of your points can be actioned. One thindg is for sure, Sambo and Woody cant spoil club hurling for 3 or 4 years. They will also know that they will need the total support of the clubs at key times. A strategy is needed for short and mid-term hurling, to better the club and county scene. One badly needs the other.

As I said before, I`m more a football man, but let me have a few days to think about this, and maybe we could get a few heads together. Didnt Nicky Brennan hint at a bit of help if we put a good enough strategy forward! Maybe time to get a group together to look at some of the issues you mention, and a few to go with it!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 21, 2007, 01:36:01 PM
So all the proposals went back to the CCC regarding the restructuring of the hurling leagues. Who's not happy and what are the alternatives?

For us this works out well us. Senior games on Wednesday, Saturday (Ulster hurling) and South Antrim for the reserves on a Monday. Then come July the reserve hurling leagues could be put in place for the remainder of the season with outstanding games played at times fixed between clubs..............but as usual this will not always please everyone, and I can see there point for having Sunday games from the start but if they, CCC, change the games to a Sunday clubs who have entered the Ulster hurling league will have to play Saturday (UHL) and Sunday All County. Player's welfare has to be looked at here.

Do we want the shambles we had last year? If a decision is not made soon then we'll end up back to what we had.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 21, 2007, 04:13:54 PM
I think the strong and very valid point made at the CCC meeting was that on the introduction of the UHL Antrim County Committee agreed that it would not have ANY impact on Antrim leagues - ie. we will not organise our leagues to accomodate the UHL.

The Ulster Hurling league (for Div 1 teams) should be the place to blood new players / reserve teams if it means a return to a well-organised Antrim league.  It is only Div 1 teams asking for the Sunday games to return - thus showing exactly what they think of the Ulster league - however I am aware that to CLubs in Div 2 & 3 it is a very valuable competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 21, 2007, 09:12:57 PM
Coming from a division 2 club I have to say we found the UHL very enjoyable last year and it gave us games when the antrim leagues did not. We played 5 games and there was never more  than three points in any game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 27, 2007, 09:46:28 PM
Any word of what kind of team we can expect against the mighty Dubs,will it be the development squad again? we are lucky we are allowed to play on the same pitch as Dublin, the fact that they are so much further developed than us.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 28, 2007, 11:44:28 AM
The draft league and championship fixtures are with the clubs for comment. Can someone post them please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 28, 2007, 01:19:59 PM
are these the new draft proposals? or the ones that came out last week and were sent back?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 02, 2007, 08:44:42 AM
team for Sunday: any views

1 DD Quinn              Loughiel Shamrocks
2 Barney Mc Auley   Loughiel Shamrocks
3 Kieran Kelly           Mc Quillans Ballycastle
4 Sean Delargy           Ruairi Ogs Cushendall
5 Malachy Molloy      Cuchullains Dunloy
6 Johnny Campbell    Loughiel Shamrocks
7 Kevin Elliott            Ruairi ogs Cushendall
8 Karl Mc Keegan      Ruairi ogs Cushendall
9 Brendan Herron       Lamh Dhearg
10 Liam Watson         Loughiel Shamrocks
11 Neil Mc Manus      Ruairi Ogs Cushendall
12 Karl Stewart          St Galls
13 Paddy Richmond   Cuchullains Dunloy
14 Neal Mc Auley      Mc Quillans Ballycastle
15 Paul Shields           Cuchullains Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2007, 09:55:33 AM
Interesting team.

Is Ciaran Herron injured? I assume Micky Herron is out because of the sigerson?

I like that full back line. Not sure Elliot has the pace for county hurling and would prefer to see Campbell on the wing.

Are McAuley and McManus really forwards?

I think in time McManus will mould into a CHB and I think he could turn into one of Antrim's best ever but I suppose he will sweep up at CHF for the time being.

Not a bad team. Must be the fewest Dunloy men on a county hurling team in years.

Watson is better suited to the wing. Haven't seen enough of Stewart or Shields to know what they're like.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 02, 2007, 10:53:23 AM
think Ciaran herron has been dropped, the lads were training at Casement last night under lights. Sundays is the level were we are at at this should be a more competitive game. the forwards didn't get a look in against Galway. hopefully proper ball going in this Sunday should make a difference.

against Galway we played quick ball but it was either high or short or misplaced (hurried) thought Micko was our best forawrd last time so he'll be a big miss. McKeegan and Brendan Herron did well in the early stages of the game, but for me the game at midfield did not have a big impact on the outcome. all the good ball came from the halfback line and fullforward line for Galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2007, 11:16:40 AM
With Johnny Tosh injured, I really don't know where the scores are going to come from to win the game. Can't blame Sambo & Woody for this. We have a distinct lack of scoring forwards at the minute. Hope I'm proved wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 02, 2007, 11:19:42 AM
I would actually give Kevin Elliott his chance, he has been a more consistent player for Cushendall than Karl Mc Keegan, midfield suits Karl better because he does not have to mark his man as tightly as CHB. He had a habit of clearing a lot of ball but letting his man run free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 02, 2007, 11:21:55 AM
skull what's the craic with big Paddy - isn't he getting married later in the year? If so he'll be missing for the sharp end of the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2007, 11:33:36 AM
Yip...sometime June/July. Don't ask me for a date as I'm not a woman :).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 02, 2007, 11:38:01 AM
Aye Skull i feel all femine now since i know the date, its in July and if i'm right clashes with a Liam McCarthey Cup match as does his honeymoon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 02, 2007, 03:55:08 PM
So how often do you fell FEMINE then Max Power...is it any good?

Surely if Antrim build up any head of steam at all this year Paddy's wife can be told that honeymoons come and go but Antrim with a serious chance to win a Liam McCarthy match should not be missed.

I agree about Kevin Elliot being worth a shot...good to hear he is part of the panel having been overlooked/opted out for a few years.
I also agree that the full back line looks strong. Lets hope pinky stays in his best position for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 02, 2007, 09:58:03 PM
Antrim are 6/4 to beat Dublin on Sunday, that must be worth a few quid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Blacksheep on March 03, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
Where did you get that price Syd?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 03, 2007, 04:23:13 PM
Quote from: Blacksheep on March 03, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
Where did you get that price Syd?

Eastwoods, they are probably reading too much into Dublins draw with Kilkenny, they have never travelled well to Casement. Hopefully we will have too much for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 03, 2007, 05:37:54 PM
Not so sure myself. Antrim teams tend to be very "windy" and lack steal and resolve. I also think too many very young Hurlers, have been added very quickly to the panel. Hope I am wrong but I expect Dublin to win tomorrow. I see glaring weak spots on that Antrim team but won't insult anyone because they would still be better than me :P ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 04, 2007, 02:57:21 PM
Antrim match postponed. Waterlogged pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 12:16:14 PM
Anybody any idea when the Dublin match will be rescheduled........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 05, 2007, 06:45:37 PM
been reading the site for a while now and decided to register!! heard a wee rumour there over the weekend.... why is Tosh not on the county panel??? he injured?? heard that he is making a protest over jingo getting the sack?? is this a load of crap?? anyone shed any light??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 05, 2007, 06:45:37 PM
been reading the site for a while now and decided to register!! heard a wee rumour there over the weekend.... why is Tosh not on the county panel??? he injured?? heard that he is making a protest over jingo getting the sack?? is this a load of crap?? anyone shed any light??

You can take it from me Tosh is not on strike, he had an operation on his groin 3 weeks ago and is not far away from full fitness. The sooner they get him back the better.
Title: Antrim v Dublin - NHL
Post by: aontroim on March 05, 2007, 08:59:13 PM
Refixed for Wednesday, March 28th, 7pm
Dublin v Antrim, Casement Park
Title: Re: Antrim v Dublin - NHL
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 05, 2007, 09:01:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 05, 2007, 08:59:13 PM
Refixed for Wednesday, March 28th, 7pm
Dublin v Antrim, Casement Park

Tosh should be back for that one hopefully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: INDIANA on March 05, 2007, 09:20:07 PM
if the dublin county board have any gumption they'' tell the gaa to piss off. scandalous to expect teams to play 3 games in 8 days and to travel midweek? these guys aren't professionals- and to expect this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 08, 2007, 11:26:46 AM
any word of a master fixture list for hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2007, 11:37:23 AM
I have both football and hurling but they are in spreadsheet format. Can someone recommend a site where these could be up loaded?   Think they still have a bit of tweaking to do

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 08, 2007, 01:07:55 PM
our club has taken us out of the reserve league for no reason, players up in arms. a committee decision



Sun 22nd April

Glenariff Portaferry 3pm
Cushendall Ballycastle 3pm

Wed 25th April

Rossa Sarsfields 7pm
St Johns Lamh Dhearg 7pm
St Galls Ballygalget 7pm

Sun 29th April

Dunloy Glenariff 3pm
Ballycastle Loughgiel 3pm
Portaferry Ballycran 3pm
Cushendall Ballygalget 3pm

Wed 2nd May

Lamh Dhearg St Galls 7.30pm
Glenariff St Johns 7.30pm
Sarsfields Portaferry 7.30pm

Sun 6th May

Ballygalget Ballycastle 3pm
Ballycran Dunloy 3pm
Loughgiel Cushendall 3pm


Wed 9th May

Loughgiel St Galls 7pm
Lamh Dhearg Dunloy 7pm
Ballycran Rossa 7pm
Wed 16th May

Portaferry Rossa 7.30pm
Dunloy Sarsfields 7.30pm
St Johns Ballycran 8.00pm
St Galls Glenariff 7.30pm
Ballycastle Lamh Dhearg 7.30pm

Wed 23rd May

Lamh Dhearg Cushendall 7.30pm
Ballycran St Galls 7.30pm
Sarsfields St Johns 7.30pm
Rossa Dunloy 7.30pm

Sun 27th May

Ballygalget Loughgiel 3pm
Glenariff Ballycastle 3pm
Ballycran Cushendall 3pm

Wed 6th June

Lamh Dhearg Ballygalget 7.30pm
Rossa St Galls 7.30pm
Portaferry St Johns 8.30pm

Sat 9th June

Ballygalget St Johns 3pm


Mon 11th June

Glenariff Loughgiel 7.30pm
Sarsfields Ballycastle 7.30pm





Wed 13th June

St Johns Rossa 7.30pm
St Galls Sarsfields 7.30pm
Loughgiel Lamh Dhearg 7.30pm

Sun 17th June

Dunloy Portaferry 3pm
Ballycastle Ballycran 3pm
Cushendall Glenariff 7pm

Sun 24th June

Dunloy Cushendall 3pm
Portaferry Loughgiel 3pm
Ballycran Glenariff 3pm

Sunday 1st July

St Johns Dunloy 3pm
St Galls Portaferry 3pm
Ballycastle Rossa 7pm
Cushendall Sarsfields 3pm
Loughgiel Ballycran 3pm
Ballygalget Glenariff 3pm

Sun 15th July
Ballycastle St Galls 3pm
Cushendall St Johns 7pm
Loughgiel Dunloy 3pm
Ballygalget Portaferry 3pm
Lamh Dhearg Rossa 3pm
Glenariff Sarsfields 3pm



Sat 15th September

St Galls St Johns 3pm
Ballycastle Dunloy 7pm
Cushendall Portaferry 3pm
Loughgiel Rossa 3pm
Ballygalget Sarsfields 3pm
Lamh Dhearg Ballycran 3pm

Sun 21 Oct


Sarsfields Ballycran 3pm
Rossa Glenariff 3pm
Portaferry Lamh Dhearg 3pm
Dunloy Ballygalget 3pm
St Johns Loughgiel 3pm
St Galls Cushendall 3pm

Sun 4th Nov

Glenariff Lamh Dhearg 3pm
Ballycran Ballygalget 3pm
Sarsfields Loughgiel 3pm
Rossa Cushendall 3pm
Portaferry Ballycastle 3pm
Dunloy St Galls 3pm

Sun 11th Nov

Sarsfields Lamh Dhearg 3pm
Rossa Ballygalget 3pm
St Johns Ballycastle 3pm

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 08, 2007, 08:55:49 PM
I hear Antrim panel was cut on Tue night, Conor Cunning, Joey Scullion, Randal Mc Donnell, C O Connell and E O'Neill. I have heard things are not going well within the camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 08, 2007, 10:13:17 PM
Tell us more young Sydney, what is happening?

I'm surprised at some of those cut, good hurlers, was it a commitment issue? I notice no dall men got dropped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 08, 2007, 10:21:53 PM
As far as I know Brian & Aidan Delargy have dropped off the panel. Not 100% sure to be honest. Declan McKillop & Shane McNaughton still injured & maybe Micky Monty too, so that doesnt leave that many

Not suprised Conor Cunning of the panel, they played him in corner forward in the friendly against us before our semi final & he wasnt named in 24 for Galway match & wasnt in starting line up for Dublin match. I'd have kept him on the panel though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 08, 2007, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 08, 2007, 10:13:17 PM
Tell us more young Sydney, what is happening?

I'm surprised at some of those cut, good hurlers, was it a commitment issue? I notice no dall men got dropped.

Arthur i believe there will be a summer of discontent from what my moles tell me. I have heard the wearing of a pair of Ruari Og shorts at training is enough to survive the cull. According to some players it is not the Dream Team we were led to believe it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2007, 10:55:06 PM
Conor has put alot of years in with the county along with playing both codes for Dunloy. He has looked jaded for a while now. I think a rest from County activity will do him good. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 08, 2007, 10:59:04 PM
Syd....What all Cushendall players would you have on the panel??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 09, 2007, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 08, 2007, 10:59:04 PM
Syd....What all Cushendall players would you have on the panel??

I will tell you "what all" (interesting grammar) Cushendall players i would have.......Mickey Monty, Kevin Elliott,Sean Delargy (maybe), Neil Mc Manus,i suppose Karl Mc Keegan would have to be there but i dont rate him as highly as some do. I think midfield may suit him better as he never marked his man in centre half back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2007, 08:56:20 AM
Conor Cunning, good hurler though he is, has looked very tired for a few years. Like skull says - a rest would probably do him the world of good. Since around the time Dunloy got beat by Birr in the AI final he has , to me, not been the same.

Syd you come on here talking about a pro cushendall agenda and then it transpires cushendall have had players dropped too. Maybe you are the one with the agenda?

Dunno why Loughgiel players would be dropped and not Cushendall ones seeing as it is a "partnership". Also of all the players the one I would be most disappointed to see dropped would be Joey Scullion. If developed right he should be one of our best forwards. The other boys are maybe a bit young and I'd expect them to make it yet - well more McDonnell than the other ones but time will tell. They're still U21 so they'll get plenty of hurling.

These boys are not very long into the management. Give them a chance. It's a massive job to do. Winning a christy ring trophy only papered over cracks. It was a low standard competition. They entered into a far from perfect set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 09, 2007, 09:01:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2007, 08:56:20 AM
Conor Cunning, good hurler though he is, has looked very tired for a few years. Like skull says - a rest would probably do him the world of good. Since around the time Dunloy got beat by Birr in the AI final he has , to me, not been the same.

Syd you come on here talking about a pro cushendall agenda and then it transpires cushendall have had players dropped too. Maybe you are the one with the agenda?

Dunno why Loughgiel players would be dropped and not Cushendall ones seeing as it is a "partnership". Also of all the players the one I would be most disappointed to see dropped would be Joey Scullion. If developed right he should be one of our best forwards. The other boys are maybe a bit young and I'd expect them to make it yet - well more McDonnell than the other ones but time will tell. They're still U21 so they'll get plenty of hurling.

These boys are not very long into the management. Give them a chance. It's a massive job to do. Winning a christy ring trophy only papered over cracks. It was a low standard competition. They entered into a far from perfect set up.

Settle down now, if you cannot see that my comment (about wearing Ruairi Og shorts) was tongue in cheek then maybe you should wait until you have woken up a bit more. Were Brian & Aidan Delargy dropped or did they leave of their own accord? i would have maybe kept Aidan but wouldnt have had Brian Delargy anywhere near the panel. As for my "agenda" i think there is a "conspiracy theories" thread on this board somewhere maybe you would be better served on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on March 09, 2007, 09:05:10 AM
What club is C O'Connell from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 09, 2007, 09:07:03 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 09, 2007, 09:05:10 AM
What club is C O'Connell from?

He is sub keeper for Loughguile......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 09, 2007, 12:23:53 PM
Agree about Connor Cunning posts - with a bit of a break he could get back to where he was, arguably as skill hurler in Antrim as there has been over the last 5/6 years but perhaps lacking that intensity needed having been on the go with club/county for the guts of 10 years.
As regards Dunloy it may be a good bit of fortune - he can throw himself into the hurling and gaelic. He has always been a classy football player as well, with a smart head on him - could be one to watch in Div 1 football.

Also agree that dropping Joey Scullion was not a wise move if we are into investing in the future - not sure how he has been showing in training etc but if he bulked up a bit and got a slight bit more speed (not sure whether they go hand in hand but anyway) he would be as dangerous a forward as we have.

Shame that Aidan Delargy has gone, thought in the Portumna match he added a bit of experience to the Cushendall team...something that maybe Antrim might be lacking if you look at the panel in depth.

Would have thought (and hoped) that no bias at all will come into the management selection and I don't think it will. Worth giving the dream team a fair crack at it I reckon.

JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH CLONEY GAELS ALL THE BEST IN THEIR ALL IRELAND FINAL THIS WEEKEND. GREAT TO SEE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SlimShady on March 09, 2007, 12:33:14 PM
I'd like to add my best wishes to Clooney Gaels for Sunday as well, a tough assignment but would be some achievement-already is actually.

I'm a tad jealous that they're getting a game in Croker! would give my right arm for the chance.

Good luck Clooney!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 09, 2007, 12:37:17 PM
Yeah have to wish them all the best of luck also, ye love to see a victory tour of Ahoghill :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 09, 2007, 01:58:44 PM
Good point Max - if they win and are coming back Sunday night I would drop in to see that one.

Big Davy Tweed in the red and black.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SlimShady on March 09, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
any betting for this game? i reckon Clooney would be about 7/1 to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 11, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
Cushendall annual(2006) dinner last nite, Sean Delargy got our senior hurler of the year & it was announced he was named county captain for 2007. Great attitude & very committed, think he will do a good job. Led us very well in 2005 when he stepped as in as captain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 11, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
Cushendall annual(2006) dinner last nite, Sean Delargy got our senior hurler of the year & it was announced he was named county captain for 2007. Great attitude & very committed, think he will do a good job. Led us very well in 2005 when he stepped as in as captain.

I echo what your saying about Sean Delargy but with Mickey Kettle back there will be a greater fight on for the 2 corner back positions, will he be guaranteed his place for every game now? It is hard to drop your captain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 12, 2007, 09:03:08 PM
I suppose it's a bit suprising considering he's only re-joined the county panel this year. But i'd have him starting on the team on the form he showed for us last year. It will interesting to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 12, 2007, 09:55:41 PM
It would be good for Antrim to have a bit of genuine competition for places for once. Normally we dont have enough decent hurlers to fil all positions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2007, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 12, 2007, 09:03:08 PM
I suppose it's a bit suprising considering he's only re-joined the county panel this year. But i'd have him starting on the team on the form he showed for us last year. It will interesting to see how he gets on.

Think thats how every county team should be selected...on last years performances with their clubs and even performances in the early part of the season

The assumption is that they get to play for their clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 01:19:47 PM
I see Tipp are 1/200 to beat Antrim on Sunday!! I think it will be another heavy defeat, Tipp are going as well as anyone, the only thing that will save us is if they are complacent. I see DD Quinn has been dropped for the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 01:31:03 PM
Hello Hurling folK

A new member to wind u all up!

Ah well, Antrim seniors arent goin the greatest to be fair. However I still believe that over time the 2 men will turn it round- its about changing mindsets. How many people from glenariffe, rossa, st johns, ballycastle n loughguile etc really no anything about committment. they keep doing the same they will always get the same - nothing!! so i think sambo etc need time to change this.

as for the clubs, well leagues dont start until 29th i believe....april! uLSTER LEAGUE BEGIN 7TH APRIL. aT LEAST HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE SUM GAMES. heard loughguile have a new management team in.....will it make any difference?? Cushendall have approached Sean & Didan Delargys dad to manage them this year... think he might go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
Newbie are you in to troll or are you gonna make a contribution (you're obviously from the Dall!)?

Also, Sambo didn't exactly set the world alight at the helm in Cushendall a few years ago so people are entitled to their reservations about how this "dream team" will perform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 01:55:57 PM
Who said i was from Cushendall.......lets just say i know a few people in right places. Karl McKeegan said at the start of the year that the difference in Sambo from 4/5 years ago to now is like night and day. He said Sambo had come in to take a few sessions for the dall in their run up to County final etc and he said he was top notch - wudnt have beieved i was the same man...

Last cuple of years i was keeping an eye on County minor training. Now i appreciate they had an extremely talented dquad but I was really impressed wit the rrespect they commanded, the committment theyt demanded, the intensity of there drills and preparation. Now take it from me i have watched many So Called big name coaches take sessions and thet were far from impressive. So lets not judge the 2 men on a couple of results.

Who do you fancy for club c'ship? Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 02:15:15 PM
Well "North Antrim" i have spoken to a few of the players and they say the training is no different to anyone elses and Sambo does nothing but regale them of the good old days when he was lighting up the world.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2007, 02:22:19 PM
The good old days are nearly 20 years ago now so it's time he moved on and work with the players he has as I don't think the likes of Humpy, Clute and Niall Patterson will be making a comeback anytime soon!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 02:29:23 PM
Look lads....i owe sambo r anybody nothing!

Of course there wont be any difference in training drills....there the same here as they are in cork, cavan, kilkenny, dublin. Lets get this sorted. Wot im on about is the professional approach, mind-set, attitude. Most Antrim folk will allow a player to miss a training with a shit excuse, late for training, etc. That is and has been accepted in North Antrim and Antrim for years. It is the norm. However you need someone strong enugh who will not allow that to happen.

Take it from me.....you folk think that if a players got skill he shuold be played anyway. Bullshit...cos when the heat is turned up he will shit the nest. Last year on the bus, players were allowed to take a drink after NHL matches and in sum instances drink on bus on way home. NOW you might accept that but you will win f**k all and make NO PROGRESS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 02:35:26 PM
Also your minors this year will not cut any delf. Trust me, the new man Paul McStrivick is too nice to do anything. Already players who never missed training last year are missing training this year! you may blame the players. But its human nature. The control comes from the top! He must not allow any excuses. At sum training there could be anything from 5-12 players missing for a whole list of excuses. That NEVER happened last year. Why?? cos it wasnt allowed to happen.

There in lies the difference. You could bring DJ Carey up to Antrim to train the team. Training/coaching isnt the problem. A strong manager who keeps everyone in line and gets a panel together of players who WANT TO PLAY for ANTRIM is what is needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 02:29:23 PM


Most Antrim folk will allow a player to miss a training with a shit excuse, late for training, etc. That is and has been accepted in North Antrim and Antrim for years. It is the norm. However you need someone strong enugh who will not allow that to happen.

Well kiddo the attendance at training has been sporadic at best, Conor Cunning was one of the better ones for training and he got the boot, a personality thing i hear.....And your other point about Karl saying there is a great difference in Sambo now and 4 years ago, well he is the one went crying to the papers ("allegedley" at the behest of the good Doctor) to get Sambo in so he isnt gonna say a bad word against him.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 15, 2007, 04:31:32 PM
As I've said before, I'm glad that Conor will have more time to dedicate to club duties. I do think he has lost some of his edge over the past couple of years and he has become a bit injury prone. However, I also heard that he was an excellent attender at county training and challenge matches (something some of the established players couldn't say). He was however given no chance at all by the management to stake his claim. If they didn't think he was up to standard, why did they not give go in a challenge game and then make up thier mind based on his performance(s)? But to let a man train all winter, give him no opertunity at all to show his worth, then cut him from the panel was very disrespectful. Hardly good management when you consider at the outset that they demanded the level of commitment that Conor was giving them.

I hope he will show his worth this year for Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 15, 2007, 04:49:02 PM
haven't been on for a while Cheltenham is costing a fortune...... but to be dropped at this stage and be as good as Cunning is crazy, the players left in there at the minute compared to Conor are rubbish. but the county have brought these men in to do a good job for the county and so far the y have both failed i'm talking football as well both have been singing of the same book saying it will take time and it's a mind set that has to change. well tell us something we didn't know

structures within the county have to change money has to be pumped into schools to encourage all kids to play Hurling not enough work is being done within in the schools, and this is not a  bad reflection on Seamus Elliot and the rest but headquarters who say this and that will happen.

i find it starnge that we have top hurlers within the county who if approached will play football for the county instead..... a county that is ranked 31st in Ireland!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 15, 2007, 05:18:47 PM
Any way wot about the clubs lads.....

Will the dall do 3 in a row??

Will loughguile have anything in them to come back?

Ballycastle - young team with sum exceptional young players

Dunloy - over the hill???

St Johns - too early for them

Wot u think?

Whose taking the teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 15, 2007, 06:15:17 PM
some whining being done here!! at the end of the day..jingo should have been given a chance for a year!! what harm would it have done???? whats the worst that would have happened?? get beat by 20 odd points by galway...ooo that happened anyways!! but thats in the past and the new management have to being given the chance to prove it!! given the backing from the board, players and FANS!!! if that is what u call urselves!!! apparently a few of the players are still pissed off at the treatment of jingo not all of them are under the spell of the gd doctor himself!!

apparently tosh is one of these and there is severe doubts as whether he will be back this year as he has a disliking to woody and sambo and has been made captain of glenariffe this year so the question is where will his loyalties lie!! training currently with glenariffe but been nowhere near the county!!!!!!!!!!!! FACT!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 15, 2007, 06:15:17 PM
apparently tosh is one of these and there is severe doubts as whether he will be back this year as he has a disliking to woody and sambo and has been made captain of glenariffe this year so the question is where will his loyalties lie!! training currently with glenariffe but been nowhere near the county!!!!!!!!!!!! FACT!!

Tosh is recovering from a groin operation so i would imagine it makes sense to regain his fitness at home rather than trailing away to county training,and if he didnt have Jumbos blessing im sure he would be back to the county. The fact that he is Glenariffe captain is neither here nor there....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 15, 2007, 10:11:08 PM
Apparantly DD Quinn dropped cos he missed training on Sunday morning, Kevin Elliott dropped cos of the same reason. Still no manager for Cushendall yet,close to being sorted but not who North Antrim mentioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 15, 2007, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 15, 2007, 10:11:08 PM
Apparantly DD Quinn dropped cos he missed training on Sunday morning, Kevin Elliott dropped cos of the same reason. Still no manager for Cushendall yet,close to being sorted but not who North Antrim mentioned.

Apparentley what is pissing some players off is that they are being selective in who they drop, there are far more than those two missing training......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 15, 2007, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 15, 2007, 06:15:17 PM
apparently tosh is one of these and there is severe doubts as whether he will be back this year as he has a disliking to woody and sambo and has been made captain of glenariffe this year so the question is where will his loyalties lie!! training currently with glenariffe but been nowhere near the county!!!!!!!!!!!! FACT!!

A bit of second rate mischief making "mighty saffron". I suppose it was worth a try......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 15, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
Yeah heard that others who missed training have been picked.I know one who missed training 2 weeks ago who has been picked. If this is the case dont know why DD was dropped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 15, 2007, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 15, 2007, 04:49:02 PM
haven't been on for a while Cheltenham is costing a fortune...... but to be dropped at this stage and be as good as Cunning is crazy, the players left in there at the minute compared to Conor are rubbish.

In fairness milltown, I do think that Conor hasn't been firing at 100% for a while now and didn't think that he would have been in the new managements plans. I just wonder why they included him but didn't give him any real chance to prove himself before cutting him.....at least he got the good of the training I suppose. Sambo and Woody would need to watch that thier credibility is not eroded by inconsisteny in applying principles to the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 16, 2007, 08:37:56 AM
team for sunday, this looks a well balanced team.

1. RYAN McGARRY (McQUILLANS  BALLYCASTLE)
2. BARNEY McAULEY (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
3. MICHAEL McCAMBRIDGE (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
4. SEAN DELARGY CAPT (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
5. MALACHY MOLLOY (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)
6. JOHNNY CAMPBELL (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
7. CIARAN HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
8. KARL McKEEGAN (RUAIRI OGS CUSHENDALL)
9. BRENDAN HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
10. LIAM WATSON (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
11. NEIL McMANUS (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
12. MICHAEL HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
13. BRIAN McFALL (ST JOHNS)
14. PADDY RICHMOND (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)
15. PAUL SHIELDS (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)

16. DD QUINN (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
17. KEVIN ELLIOTT (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
18. ARRON GRAFFIN (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
19. JAMES McKEAGUE (CUCHULLAINS  DUNLOY)
20. MICKEY KETTLE (ROSSA)
21. BARRY McFALL (ST JOHNS)
22. SHANE McNAUGHTON (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
23. PADDY McGILL (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
24. NEAL McAULEY (McQUILLANS  BALLYCASTLE)
25. MARTIN SCULLION (LOUGHIEL SHAMROCKS)
26. BRENDAN QUINN (GORT NA MONA)

very good bench as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 16, 2007, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 16, 2007, 08:37:56 AM
team for sunday, this looks a well balanced team.

1. RYAN McGARRY (McQUILLANS  BALLYCASTLE)
2. BARNEY McAULEY (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
3. MICHAEL McCAMBRIDGE (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
4. SEAN DELARGY CAPT (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
5. MALACHY MOLLOY (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)
6. JOHNNY CAMPBELL (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
7. CIARAN HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
8. KARL McKEEGAN (RUAIRI OGS CUSHENDALL)
9. BRENDAN HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
10. LIAM WATSON (LOUGHGIEL SHAMROCKS)
11. NEIL McMANUS (RUAIRI OG CUSHENDALL)
12. MICHAEL HERRON (LAMH DHEARG)
13. BRIAN McFALL (ST JOHNS)
14. PADDY RICHMOND (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)
15. PAUL SHIELDS (CUCHULLAINS DUNLOY)


I would not have Johnny Campbell anywhere near that team, i dont know how many chances he has had with the same end result....he isnt up to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 09:25:51 AM
Syd

Wots wrong with Johnny Campbell......who wud you play centre back....u seem to be the expert and no all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 16, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 09:25:51 AM

Syd
u seem to be the expert and no all

Thats the first bit of sense you have spoken since you have made your appearance here, and by the way its "know" and not "no" in the context your using. Now run along.....

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 10:03:03 AM
Yeah you got it ...."no" as opposed to know!!!!

I have been readin your comments with interest and u are a very negative man. Im sure someone of your ability and knowledge of the game would make a great manager. God, Antrim are full of twats like you ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 16, 2007, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 10:03:03 AM
Yeah you got it ...."no" as opposed to know!!!!

I have been readin your comments with interest and u are a very negative man. Im sure someone of your ability and knowledge of the game would make a great manager. God, Antrim are full of twats like you ;D

Maybe i should be more upbeat and get on Woody & Sambos bandwagon like you,on second thoughts maybe i wont. Nothing seems to be any different this year compared to any other manager Antrim has had. A player told me that Sambo & Woody believe results should improve solely because they are in charge & the players should be inspired irrespective of the training methods.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 10:45:31 AM
There in lies the problem. I guarentee that player over time will be weeded out. He is no use to antrim cos he has a weak mentality. He already has an excuse. U see Syd im not a woody /sambo fan. In fact i think sambo as a person is a egotistic twat. But then again all top players/managers are that...Louighnane, Kernan, Harte etc. So im not jumpin on any band wagon. there are just too many players like ur soyrce, too many fans like you you want a get out clause, looking for the easy option. Players either do it 100%% or piss off and stop wasting everyones time.

This is the reason why there are so many losers in ANTRIM!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 16, 2007, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 10:45:31 AM
There in lies the problem. I guarentee that player over time will be weeded out. He is no use to antrim cos he has a weak mentality. He already has an excuse. U see Syd im not a woody /sambo fan. In fact i think sambo as a person is a egotistic twat. But then again all top players/managers are that...Louighnane, Kernan, Harte etc. So im not jumpin on any band wagon. there are just too many players like ur soyrce, too many fans like you you want a get out clause, looking for the easy option. Players either do it 100%% or piss off and stop wasting everyones time.

This is the reason why there are so many losers in ANTRIM!!!!

The player in question has a "weak mentality",because he questions their methods? This player is about as dedicated as you will meet, and if there were a few more like him they wouldnt be in the state they are in. I do agree with you about Sambo though.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 16, 2007, 11:58:22 AM
well said north!! ive never seen as many negative people on one forum in my life!! if not woody and sambo then who sid?????? do u agree with the methods jingo brought.... i.e. drinking on the bus on way home yeah could see cody and loughnane allowing that!! give the men a chance!! im as sceptical as the next man but give them a chance!!

and before ya say....yes they should have given jingo more of a chance!!! :L:L
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 12:23:41 PM
At least someone agrees with me! Thanks O mighty one.

Ballycastle are training like mad at present. Humpy and Dessie Donnelly are in charge with wee mickey mcshane n Sum man Laverty helping them . I believe they have put in 6 weeks of real hard work. Now i no its early days yet but trust me these lads have never trained like this b4. I reckon they will give most teams a good game this year. Pinky is in gud nick, ad with some of the best young players in antrim there, they will give a good account of themselves.

think they play glenariffe on sat morning at 11am b4 goin on the rip!! its on their new pitch and next week they play james stephens Kilkenney as part of their official opening of their new superb grounds....

any other gossip??

im fed up talking about county set up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2007, 02:34:35 PM
I think "going on the rip" has been one of the main issues with "the town" over the past 10-15 years. If they stayed out of the pub they might do more than make promises every year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 16, 2007, 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2007, 02:34:35 PM
I think "going on the rip" has been one of the main issues with "the town" over the past 10-15 years. If they stayed out of the pub they might do more than make promises every year!

Have to agree with Tony Baloney,North Antrim was going great saying how hard Ballycastle were training until he mentioned their usual downfall "the demon drink".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 03:35:30 PM
Let me correct myself.....the match is at 11am on st apddys day. I dont know that they are going on the rip...but like u say, there past record wud suggest a serious rip will take place. No doubt there the mckillop cup will be won a few times tomorrow in the boyd arms, diamond bar etc!!!

will be interesting to see if the county players like winker, mcfall can stay off the beer???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 16, 2007, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 03:35:30 PM

will be interesting to see if the county players like winker, mcfall can stay off the beer???

Past history would say "no" !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2007, 04:20:26 PM
If they can't stay off it when they're on official county business then it would be safe to say there'll be lots of swallying done tomorrow!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 16, 2007, 10:46:45 PM
Its not just the "demon drink", i know of one of our main players (still with county), under Dinny Cahill, didnt train because he was playing golf........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on March 17, 2007, 08:33:38 AM
LADS ITS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, ITS NOT JUST THE PLAYERS, THE WHOLE COUNTY STRUCTURE MUST CHANGE! iTS LIKE THE " THE COUNCIL OF 12" IT HAS TO GO----RID THEM ALL OUT, THEY HAVE ALL PASSED THEIR SELL BUY DATE! I WISH I COULD SAY THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN THE PAST? THEY HAVE,NT AND THE SAME PEOPLE, DOING THE SAME THINGS , SAYING THE SAME THINGS. THEY ARE THERE 2 LONG--- YOUNG BLOOD WITH NEW CONCEPTS AND A MORE PROFESSIONAL APPROACH. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN DOING THE JOBS FOR THAT LONG THEY KNOW NOTHING ELSE!!! UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE COUNTY TEAMS AND RESULTS WILL NEVER CHANGE !!!!!! LOOK AT THE PROGRESS ARMAGH HAVE MADE--AND I MAY ADD NO CREDIT TO THAT MONEY GRABBING BSTD ROGAN HE IS JUST AN IDIOT SELLING PAST GLORIES(NOT!!!!!!) :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 17, 2007, 12:54:27 PM
Davincicode who the f**k are you trying to kid with that rant? You are obviously someone who follows the affairs of the county very closely. Our county board is young blood in comparison with almost everyone else.

Oh, and by the way Big Joe is not the Cathaoirleach any more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 17, 2007, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 16, 2007, 12:23:41 PM
Ballycastle are training like mad at present. Humpy and Dessie Donnelly are in charge with wee mickey mcshane n Sum man Laverty helping them . I believe they have put in 6 weeks of real hard work. Now i no its early days yet but trust me these lads have never trained like this b4. I reckon they will give most teams a good game this year. Pinky is in gud nick, ad with some of the best young players in antrim there, they will give a good account of themselves.

think they play glenariffe on sat morning at 11am b4 goin on the rip!!
any other gossip??

They must have been training for something other than hurling matches, Glenariffe beat them without breaking a sweat today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
The Town were missing a few of their big players. However, i wud say Ballycastle are one of the most arrogant teams around. They have ahieved NOTHING in the last 20 years, yet they GENUINELY believe each year they have achance of winning the championship! They have won NOTHING at underage in last 10 yrs - u-16-u-21 yet believe they have best youth structure.

Glenariffe drew with Loughguile last week in Armoy. They must be goin rightly. And that without the great JOHNNY TOSH
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 18, 2007, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
The Town were missing a few of their big players. However, i wud say Ballycastle are one of the most arrogant teams around. They have ahieved NOTHING in the last 20 years, yet they GENUINELY believe each year they have achance of winning the championship! They have won NOTHING at underage in last 10 yrs - u-16-u-21 yet believe they have best youth structure.

Glenariffe drew with Loughguile last week in Armoy. They must be goin rightly. And that without the great JOHNNY TOSH

"The great Johhny Tosh" was playing yesterday,do i detect the green eyed monster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 12:21:45 PM
Green eyed monster??? wot ye mean by that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 18, 2007, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 12:21:45 PM
Green eyed monster??? wot ye mean by that

"the great JOHNNY TOSH".....a hint of sarcasm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 12:27:45 PM
Ah no.....Johnny Tosh is a great hurler. Certainly not. Hes a lovely fellow, a real gentleman. Was just jesting, cos all ye folk around Waterfoot think hes a GOD!! he certainly is a great hurler. Nearly unstoppable in club terms.

Were u at the game? wot were Ballycastle like?

Who do u think will be the team this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 18, 2007, 12:38:54 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 12:27:45 PM
Ah no.....Johnny Tosh is a great hurler. Certainly not. Hes a lovely fellow, a real gentleman. Was just jesting, cos all ye folk around Waterfoot think hes a GOD!! he certainly is a great hurler. Nearly unstoppable in club terms.

Were u at the game? wot were Ballycastle like?

Who do u think will be the team this year?

Ballycastle were very poor,the only ones i could see missing were Pinky & Mc Garry in nets. There are actually quite a few who give him a hard time, but then you get gobshites like that in every club. I have a feeling Dunloy might pull it together this year under their new management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 18, 2007, 12:48:18 PM
Ther are plenty of gobshites in Ballycastle alrite!

Aye Dunloy have Shane Elliot involved with them this year allow with who?? Do u not think they are past there sell by date. I think it will be Dall's year again if they have the hunger. Cant see loughduile having a go. Even though they have a new management in i think they dont have it in them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 02:07:44 PM
Any word on any score in Antrim V Tipperary game, it started at 1.00pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
Tipperary 1-11 Antrim 0-8 RESULT. Must have been a bad day going by the low scoring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 18, 2007, 06:26:16 PM
According to the radio the weather was terrible across the country today. Despite that improvement from Antrim and Down and a good win for the dubs.
Antrim led 7 points to 2 at half time after playing with the wind. Karl Mckeegan three points from play. Second half tipp took over with the elements but only pulled away in the last five to ten minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 18, 2007, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 18, 2007, 06:26:16 PM
According to the radio the weather was terrible across the country today. Despite that improvement from Antrim and Down and a good win for the dubs.
Antrim led 7 points to 2 at half time after playing with the wind. Karl Mckeegan three points from play. Second half tipp took over with the elements but only pulled away in the last five to ten minutes.

I think next week will tell us more,if we get a decent day, the weather made the matches a lottery today. The bad weather will always bring teams like Antrim & Down closer to Tipp & Cork. Antrim only scored once in 2nd half, with 3 mins to go. I take it Dublins win consigns us to Division 2 next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 18, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
With a nine team div 1 proposed for next year we are almost certainly down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 18, 2007, 11:41:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 02, 2007, 11:16:40 AM
With Johnny Tosh injured, I really don't know where the scores are going to come from to win the game. Can't blame Sambo & Woody for this. We have a distinct lack of scoring forwards at the minute. Hope I'm proved wrong

No scores from the forward line in open play is not a good stat. I'm sure the weather made it a backs day but still I think this shows the lack of potency is a major problem

From AFR
Tipperary 1-11 Antrim 0-8

Tipperary were made to work hard before overcoming a half-time deficit to defeat Antrim by 1-11 to 0-8 in the National Hurling League Division 1B clash in Templemore on Sunday.

The Munster side were given a mountain to climb as Antrim led by five points at the break, but a dominant second-half showing rescued the game and earned Tipp their second win of the season.

The first half in Templemore was not one for the purists, with points from play at a premium.

With 19 minutes gone, the sides were tied at 0-2 apiece, with Eoin Kelly firing over two frees for the Premier County.

However, Brian McFaul's free then began a run of Antrim scoring and along with Karl McKeegan, he helped to open up that five-point lead.

McKeegan was indeed the only player to score from play in the first half with three scores, while McFaul was responsible for four frees, seeing Antrim leading by 0-7 to 0-2 at half-time.

However, that gap was quickly erased as Tipp came out with all guns blazing in the second half and had the ball in the net within 14 seconds.

A long punt forward from centre half back Conor O'Mahony was flicked on cleverly by Kelly and last tear's minor star Pa Bourke was on hand to apply the finishing touch and slammed the ball past Ryan McGarry.

Tipp were soon level and a '65 from Kelly had them in front for the first time at 1-5 to 0-7 and points from Willie Ryan, O'Mahony and Kelly (2) then had them well in front as Antrim were held scoreless until Brendan Herron's point in the very late stages of the half.

Bourke and Shane Maher added late points as Tipp eventually claimed a six-point win, leaving the Saffrons - for all their first-half endeavour - rooted to the foot of the table.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 19, 2007, 09:46:52 AM
Hopefuly Johhny McIntosh will be back for the Kilkenny match next week, we need an improvement up front. I have a feeling the forwards will have limited ball next week though, Kilkenny really need the points and who advances could come down to scoring averages so they will be looking to hammer us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 19, 2007, 11:20:05 AM
well if their going by attendance tosh wont be playing on sunday hasnt been there!! injured or not!!! take it we have to beat cats to have a chance of staying in division one after dubs result!!??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 19, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
all they have to do is draw with the Cats and beat Dublin the following wednesday under the lights in Casement  :P This will then put them level on points and provided neither picks up any further points they will need a playoff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 19, 2007, 12:00:26 PM
I dread to see the fall out from a poor NHL. The only way I can see S&W reacting is the same as their predecessors...i.e more county training sessions & more challenge games (isolating these players from their clubs). Anybody that thinks Antrim under perform year in year out need to wake up and realise we are where we are. There is no point in getting scundered every time an established top tier side puts us to the sword. If the effort and compeditiveness is there then I think that is good enough is it not? We don't have the players (neither in quality or quantity) to consistently put it up to these teams. We might catch them on the hop but that will be about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2007, 12:34:10 PM
Skull it's the combination of false dawns and false promises that get on the goat of most Antrim fans. One year they'll run a "top tier" side close and the next year they'll get tanked by them. If Antrim were either consistently good, average or bad over a period of 3 or 4 years then we'd know exactly the level they are at and work from there.

But these blips were the team do well create the belief in some of the players, the fans and the management that they're a better team than they actually are and I think complacency sets in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 19, 2007, 01:05:35 PM
would that gives us three and dub 4 points???? are they not on 3??? and kilkenny on 1 after 2 games?? according to irish news anyways!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 19, 2007, 02:09:47 PM
As far as i know it is a 9 team Div 1 next year so we are fucked. There will be no get out clause of a playoff with Down that we usually get away with. Going by yesterdays Dublin v Galway match they would look like a good bet to beat us and thus move onto 5 pts, the most pts we can get is 2 pts. If its a decent day next week we will get hammered by Kilkenny, and i dont want any tools coming on here calling me pessimistic or a doom merchant, if you think we will beat Kilkenny on a good sunny day you are on the glue......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 19, 2007, 02:19:13 PM
"There were four 19 year old forwards playing out there today"- we are getting the youth of the team rammed down our throat at every oppurtunity...........i see Terry Mc Naughton is slowly morphing into David "they are only young lads" O'Leary......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2007, 02:25:03 PM
Truth you should give Sambo a break. You're starting to sound as bad as Syd!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 19, 2007, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2007, 02:25:03 PM
Truth you should give Sambo a break. You're starting to sound as bad as Syd!!!

Tony mind your mouth, i will give Terry a break when he delivers results. You see talking about in the papers just doesent do it, now you have to actually get the results or expext the criticism that will come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 19, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: The Truth on March 19, 2007, 02:29:57 PM
[Tony mind your mouth, i will give Terry a break when he delivers results. You see talking about in the papers just doesent do it, now you have to actually get the results or expext the criticism that will come.

No doubt, sambo's time as a pundit has left him open to alot of critisism. He dished it out to others so he should expect the same to be done to him, although I would agree that it doesn't get anybody anywhere (apart from a smug grin). In his time as the Irish New's hurling wise man, he built Antrim (as dinny did) up to be something that they currently are not. He still thinks it but the results do not and never have stacked up against that opinion. But he has made his bed. He can't retract the asperation he has for the team and will be another one of a long list of managerial failures who could take Antrim to where they rightly belong (his words btw). Hopefully somebody will wake up and realise that we are setting the bar too high for Antrim Hurling and that this is having a detrimental affect on the overall health of the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 19, 2007, 03:29:13 PM
Why was Winker Watson not playing? I see Kevin Elliott seemed to be playing instead.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
He was probably lying blocked in some ditch in Corkey after a heavy feed on St. Paddy's night!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 19, 2007, 03:56:44 PM
Skull, you have hit the nail on the head, Sambo did so much slabbering in the Irish News (in between recounting past glorious defeats and details of phone calls to famous hurlers)  he has set himself up for heavy criticism.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 19, 2007, 04:00:17 PM
....punches Tony Baloney in the mooth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 19, 2007, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 19, 2007, 03:56:44 PM
Skull, you have hit the nail on the head, Sambo did so much slabbering in the Irish News (in between recounting past glorious defeats and details of phone calls to famous hurlers)  he has set himself up for heavy criticism.

That's all they were after all, like Kilkenny in 1991. They had better hurlers in Sambo's time but they were never going to come close to win an All-Ireland, they got hammered in 1989. I remember the Irish News rating the Tipp & Antrim players out of 10 a couple of days or so before the final and Antrim's added up to more than Tipp's - absolutely laughable.

As Woody said on RTE radio after the game yesterday, we're not good enough to compete in Div 1 & too good for Div 2 and what we're trying to do is get Antrim to compete in games against the top teams by the time 3 years is up. This is much more realistic than pie in the sky ideas of Antrim challenging for an All-Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 19, 2007, 04:16:59 PM
I have too say that getting beat by Tipperary by only six points was a very credable performance by Antrim. The only way Antrim Hurling will improve is if proper league structures are put in place at home. This malarkey of Hurlers only getting six or so games a year is farcical. And at that these games are played in horrendous weather. Every man women and child that picks up the Caman in our County should at least be guaranteed twenty games a year. The way it is being run now will kill the game eventualy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 19, 2007, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 19, 2007, 04:08:06 PM
As Woody said on RTE radio after the game yesterday, we're not good enough to compete in Div 1 & too good for Div 2 and what we're trying to do is get Antrim to compete in games against the top teams by the time 3 years is up. This is much more realistic than pie in the sky ideas of Antrim challenging for an All-Ireland.

Yes, much more realistic. But this is not the message Sambo was pumping out over the past few years (I'm assuming that Sambo now agrees with this statement made by woody) . Thats why people will be jumping on him for changing his opinion of Antrims potential now that HE is at the helm.

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on March 19, 2007, 04:16:59 PM
I have too say that getting beat by Tipperary by only six points was a very credable performance by Antrim. The only way Antrim Hurling will improve is if proper league structures are put in place at home. This malarkey of Hurlers only getting six or so games a year is farcical. And at that these games are played in horrendous weather. Every man women and child that picks up the Caman in our County should at least be guaranteed twenty games a year. The way it is being run now will kill the game eventualy.

Defensively it looks like a good performance, but Antrim didn't have any forward score from play so...

Anybody with any sense can see that regular club activity is required to improve the fortunes of hurling in Antrim. That and a drive to improve coaching standards in every club up and down the County. More PR to advertise games in an attempt to attract people back to the game. I could go on, but the problem is that you could not tell this to our administrators. They keep on making the same mistakes and we keep wondering why it is not working for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on March 19, 2007, 04:57:01 PM
Just take a look at how the the 2 games where covered on the TV today, should,nt let the BBc in unless its attributes the same time and background to the GAA.

And then look at the programme for todays Mc Crory, look at the coverage Gaelic Football Gets, our own bodies are killing hurling, its profile and is attraction.

Just look, Seam Mc courty Ulster Colleges, Colm Mc Kenna BOI, our own county organisation at casement park, farcical to say the least. Its all about ego,s thats it. Opinions and suggestions no action, our own people discriminate against our own codes.

And to finish off, with all the Antrim representation involved and not one Antrim official as part of the game, thats for me puts it all in perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 20, 2007, 01:06:12 PM
A quote attributed to Antrim Manager Terry Mc Naughton -" Some of the forwards on the Cork team wouldnt get on the Antrim team !! Have we not been down this road before with this kind of shite with a previous Antrim Manager......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 20, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Was just wondering if anybody had any idea how i could get my hands on the fixture lists, specifically div.3. any help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 20, 2007, 06:23:25 PM
bredaghgael the hurling fixture list is on the antrim website somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 20, 2007, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on March 19, 2007, 03:29:13 PM
Why was Winker Watson not playing? I see Kevin Elliott seemed to be playing instead.......
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
He was probably lying blocked in some ditch in Corkey after a heavy feed on St. Paddy's night!

God help anybody that has to manage thon boy. :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 21, 2007, 08:05:18 AM
Hurling League Fixtures

Div 1
Glenariff   Lamh Dhearg
Ballycran   Ballygalget
Sarsfields   Loughgiel
Rossa   Cushendall
Portaferry   Ballycastle
Dunloy   St Galls
   St Johns

12 games each.

Div 1 (Res) - the fixtures list isn't clear on this one. Who has entered and how many games will they get? Can anyone enlighten me?

Div 2
Clooney   Carey
St Pauls   Gotrnamona
Rasharkin   Glenravel
Tir na nOg   Shane O Neills
Armoy   Cushendun

9 games each.

Div 3
St Teresas   Bredagh
Ardoyne   Creggan Gaels
St Agnes    Sarsfields 2
Mitchel Og   Ballymena
St Pauls 2   Davitts
Cloughmills   Larne
Na Fuiseoig   St Endas

13 games each.

I hope it goes better than last year. Loughgeil for Div 1, Gorts for Div 2 and St Endas for Div 3, but the league will have no bearing on the championships. Welcome Bredagh to the Antrim leagues.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2007, 08:16:43 AM
reserve teams are, dunloy, Loughgiel, cushendall, St Johns, Ballygalget, Ballycran, Portaferry, Ballycastle, and Naomh Gall eight games to be played plus a reserve championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 21, 2007, 09:30:30 AM
There won't be many in the championship. The 3 Down teams can't enter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2007, 09:34:57 AM
yes but like last year lamhs and sarsfields st pauls and maybe Rossa will be there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 21, 2007, 09:40:39 AM
Heard from a prominent source in the county that winker watson has offically left the county and is giving 100% to his club this year. I wonder is he on about Chimney Corner or Loughguile  ;D

However if hooker connolly (think hes in charge of shamrocks) can get him on board 100% who knows wot he can do for the. Remember last 2/3 seasons hes been messing about, been injured etc.

leagues mean nothing really to the big teams. Glenariffe, ballycastle etc will use it to develop players but really if Dunloy, Loughguile want to break any delph with Ruairi ogs they need to be peaking for championship and not mickey mouse ulster leagues and county leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 21, 2007, 10:54:15 AM
thanks for the help and the welcome. not too sure how we will fare this year in that div.3. i guess only time will tell. thanks anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 21, 2007, 11:04:14 AM
Div 1 could be interesting this year, with Ballycastle and St Johns both improving with some good young players coming on board, Ballycran also look to have the makings of a really decent challenge this year and then the regulars of cushendall, loughgiel, dunloy, rossa, portaferry & Ballygalget.  Thats a lot of decent hard games.

Exactly what we all need, there is a massive difference between taking the league lightly and using it to peak for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 21, 2007, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on March 21, 2007, 10:54:15 AM
not too sure how we will fare this year in that div.3. i guess only time will tell.

Bredaghgael if you's managed to beat Glenarm by 10 points i can't see yous being troubled in Div 3 this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 21, 2007, 11:45:52 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 21, 2007, 11:04:14 AM
Div 1 could be interesting this year, with Ballycastle and St Johns both improving with some good young players

This is a bit of a myth about Ballycastle, they are as far away as ever i think, Glenariffe played them in a friendly last Saturday and beat them without any bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 21, 2007, 11:49:25 AM
I'd heard good things about Ballycastle, they were supposed have given portaferry a bit of a stuffing, which is never easy.  They really put it up to us last year and now Stephen McGarry is back, the Donnelly's are a year older and Neal McAuley will be back to his best

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2007, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 21, 2007, 11:49:25 AM
I'd heard good things about Ballycastle, they were supposed have given portaferry a bit of a stuffing, which is never easy.  They really put it up to us last year and now Stephen McGarry is back, the Donnelly's are a year older and Neal McAuley will be back to his best



I think Ballycastle did give Portaferry a stuffing a few weeks back but I wouldn't read too much into that as Ballycastle are probably further ahead than most clubs in their hurling due to their new all weather and floodlit pitches. Once the hour goes back that gap will be closed considerably plus their physique and style of play always suited winter hurling better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 21, 2007, 01:36:18 PM
It is Ballycastle's 100 year aniversery. I would expect them to be going full of the pipe this year. There seem's to be a feel good factor in the town that something is going to happen soon. They do have a lot of promising underage Hurlers coming through. Maybe just a little light for heavy striking yet though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2007, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 21, 2007, 11:04:14 AM
Ballycastle and St Johns both improving with some good young players coming on board,

Are you not forgetting about our own promising good young players max?
Conor McKinley, Paul Shields, Gareth McAlister, Paudie Shivers, Shan Dowds, Paddy Docherty, Darren Webb, Kevin McQuillan, Gabriel McTaggart.

I can see at least 5 of these players making the Dunloy side this year if they show the right desire. Indeed they will be needed to inject a bit of mobilty back into our game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 21, 2007, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 21, 2007, 11:21:19 AM
Bredaghgael if you's managed to beat Glenarm by 10 points i can't see yous being troubled in Div 3 this year.
I understood it was Bredagh IIs that will be playing in Div 3. Their main priority will be the Down JHC and league.

Ballycastle will do very little this year. A change of attitude will not be enough to move them into the top 4 in the County. Cushendall, followed by Loughgeil, Dunloy and Rossa. Glenariffe or Johnnies are more likely to make a breakthrough. Galls & Hannahstown have some great players but football is always a priority for them and until hurling is given equal status they won't improve.
Portaferry are on the slide and with McGrattan & Dule out will struggle to make any impact. I reckon Ballycran will be the best of the Ards this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 21, 2007, 04:43:29 PM
QuoteIt is Ballycastle's 100 year aniversery. I would expect them to be going full of the pipe this year. There seem's to be a feel good factor in the town that something is going to happen soon. They do have a lot of promising underage Hurlers coming through. Maybe just a little light for heavy striking yet though.

The problem is we've heard all this before year after year. Nothing has ever happened and a new pitch and dressing rooms will not help them take on the usual suspects like Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and even teams like Glenariffe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 21, 2007, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 21, 2007, 04:43:29 PM
QuoteIt is Ballycastle's 100 year aniversery. I would expect them to be going full of the pipe this year. There seem's to be a feel good factor in the town that something is going to happen soon. They do have a lot of promising underage Hurlers coming through. Maybe just a little light for heavy striking yet though.

The problem is we've heard all this before year after year. Nothing has ever happened and a new pitch and dressing rooms will not help them take on the usual suspects like Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and even teams like Glenariffe.

Have to agree with Tony, i saw them at the weekend and they were so poor. They talk about all these young players but they still have Gary Maybin playing, not exactly looking to the future......A new pitch and changing rooms isnt going to put scores on the board.....They will maybe be the north coasts answer to Loughguile, the best facilities about but no team to play in them  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 21, 2007, 10:01:45 PM
Syd

ther you go slabbering again.....take it from me Ballycastle, glenariffe etc wud settle for league, Ulster league and u-21 in one year. I honestly believe that if the shams develop the right mental approach (aye no its a big if) they will make the long awaited breakthrough. I think young watsons decision to committ to them will be the difference. Now i dont no him personally but from wot im told the new men will take no shit!

Dunloy will be loving all this. they havnt been mentioned and as the the skull pointed out, they have alot of gud underage talent who also won u-21 2 years ago. They will go in as underdog and will relish this.

Cushendall will be out in front, but as we all know its hard to get there but its even harder to stay there. I honestly think that when the real battle begins around september time, they wont have the same hunger. Skinner smelt a rat and has jmped ship!

Glenariife wit the Mariner at the reins will also be sneaking about

Cant wait till it all begins 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 21, 2007, 10:22:02 PM
I know Hooker personally and if hes running Loughgiel he certainly will not take any shit from anyone. However whether he has the tactical nous to bring Loughgiel over the finishing line remains to be seen. One thing is certain though he will put some fire in their bellies and make them more physical. Personally I thought the biggest indictment of Loughgiel last year was when watson was taken out off the ball at the end of the first half of the county final, not one player in a red shirt lifted a finger to do anything about it. A very poor sign of a side when you dont stand up for each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 21, 2007, 10:34:13 PM
Thats a fair point Slow.....one big drawback wit shams is that tey dont have any real leaders, like no karl mckeegan, jim connolly (rossa), gary okane a talisman who will lead them to the promised land. U said u know hooker. Aye only know him to see. He was a real tough player in his day and im sure hewill want his team playing a hard game!!! cud be interesting. Loughguile probv have 10 others men wit him!! Whoses alomg way him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 21, 2007, 10:55:47 PM
North Antrim......Go and consult a dictionary or else go to the North Antrim site with your text speak and strange grasp of English. So at the start of each year the Shamrocks main aim is Ulster League/Antrim League and winning the championship is a nice bonus??? Dont talk such shite......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim__Lad on March 22, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Vlad The Impaler on March 21, 2007, 10:55:47 PM
North Antrim......Go and consult a dictionary or else go to the North Antrim site with your text speak and strange grasp of English. So at the start of each year the Shamrocks main aim is Ulster League/Antrim League and winning the championship is a nice bonus??? Dont talk such shite......

Vlad i have never heard so much rubbish, How can you believe any of the top 4 -5 teams main aim is the League, the main aim of each team is most certainly the Championship, anything else just doesnt count at all.

ps North Antrim - Karl McKeegan a leader, love to know where you get that idea from. but agree loughgiel dont have any leaders

also watch out for Dunloy this year, not too many people mentioning them. i think i will be a tight championship this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 22, 2007, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Antrim__Lad on March 22, 2007, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Vlad The Impaler on March 21, 2007, 10:55:47 PM
North Antrim......Go and consult a dictionary or else go to the North Antrim site with your text speak and strange grasp of English. So at the start of each year the Shamrocks main aim is Ulster League/Antrim League and winning the championship is a nice bonus??? Dont talk such shite......

Vlad i have never heard so much rubbish, How can you believe any of the top 4 -5 teams main aim is the League, the main aim of each team is most certainly the Championship, anything else just doesnt count at all.

ps North Antrim - Karl McKeegan a leader, love to know where you get that idea from. but agree loughgiel dont have any leaders

also watch out for Dunloy this year, not too many people mentioning them. i think i will be a tight championship this year.

Antrim lad, go back and read Vlad's post,do you not see they way he questions "North Antrim" about saying most clubs would be happy to win Ulster & Antrim League, can you not see the way he  finishes his post with "Dont talk such shite", I will let you off since you are new to the board......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 22, 2007, 12:54:07 PM
theskull thats what could/should make the leagues competitive this year, alot of competition for places in teams

it all depends on the schedule of matches, we'll see how it goes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2007, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 21, 2007, 10:34:13 PM
U said u know hooker. ......... He was a real tough player in his day

Tough he may have been but not the first word that comes to mind when I recall his playing days. He pulled some low judas blows in his day. I don't think there's much debate about that. It remains to be seen what qualities he will bring to the loughguile this year as manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 22, 2007, 03:05:33 PM
In Loughgiel tough and dirty mean the same thing!  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 22, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 22, 2007, 03:05:33 PM
In Loughgiel tough and dirty mean the same thing!  :-*

I see Winker Watson got the boot for not turning up to the Tipperary match and choosing to spend the weekend in the plush surroundings of The Pound getting airlocked......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 23, 2007, 10:58:37 AM
There is a team posted on Hoganstand today for match on Sunday, Karl Stewart full forward, Karl Mc Keegan half forward, just wondering is this the team thats been named ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 23, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
i thought Karl Stewart was injured. is the team named. i thought that the team would be named tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 23, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 23, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
i thought Karl Stewart was injured. is the team named. i thought that the team would be named tonight


The team was being named last night, you know what they are like on Hogan stand though, so its hard to tell if its the official team or not.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Out in Front on March 23, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
Antrim Hurling Team v Killkenny
Sunday 25 March @ 2pm Ballycastle

1.   DD QUINN      
2.   BARNEY Mc AULEY        
3.   MICHAEL Mc CAMBRIDGE      
4.   SEAN DELARGY  CAPT.      
5.   MALACHY MOLLOY      
6.   JOHNNY CAMPBELL       
7.   KEVIN ELLIOTT      
8.   CIARAN HERRON      
9.   BRENDAN HERRON      
10.   KARL Mc KEEGAN      
11.   NEIL Mc MANUS      
12.   MICHAEL HERRON      
13.   BRIAN Mc FALL      
14.   KARL STEWART      
15.   PAUL SHIELDS      
16.   RYAN Mc GARRY      
17.   KIERAN KELLY      
18.   ARRON GRAFFIN      
19.   NEAL Mc AULEY      
20.   MICKEY KETTLE      
21.   BARRY Mc FALL      
22.   SHANE Mc NAUGHTON      
23.   PADDY Mc GILL      
24.   JAMES Mc KEAGUE      
25.   MARTIN SCULLION      
26.   PADDY RICHMOND      
27.   SIMON Mc CRORY      
28.   COLM DUFFIN      
29.   SEAN BURKE      
30.   JOHNNY Mc INTOSH      
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 23, 2007, 12:03:44 PM
take it that is the panel for the year???????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 23, 2007, 01:00:03 PM
Antrim : DD Quinn; B McAuley, M McCambridge, S Delargy; M Molloy, J Campbell, K Elliott; C Herron, B Herron; K McKeegan, N McManus, M Herron; B McFall, K Stewart, P Shields.

Winkers off the panel then? Hardly a surprise he's a great talent but a complete tosser. I have been up at Ballycastle recently is the new pitch capable of holding a big crowd and will you be able to see the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 23, 2007, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on March 23, 2007, 01:00:03 PM
Antrim : DD Quinn; B McAuley, M McCambridge, S Delargy; M Molloy, J Campbell, K Elliott; C Herron, B Herron; K McKeegan, N McManus, M Herron; B McFall, K Stewart, P Shields.

Winkers off the panel then? Hardly a surprise he's a great talent but a complete tosser. I have been up at Ballycastle recently is the new pitch capable of holding a big crowd and will you be able to see the game?

He went on the rip last weekend and didnt go to Tipp match so he got the hoof, he is aptly named by all accounts.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2007, 02:16:15 PM
Mickey McShane has said everyone has to make sure they bring their autograph books and cameras... is that for Sambo or for the Kilkenny players?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 23, 2007, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2007, 02:16:15 PM
Mickey McShane has said everyone has to make sure they bring their autograph books and cameras... is that for Sambo or for the Kilkenny players?!

Terry probably thinks its for him but alas its not......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 23, 2007, 06:47:28 PM
Guillem, there would be a better view at ballycastle than cushendall, raised terrace on two sides as opposed to one so if the crowds are similar there wil be no real problem. Also there is much more parking at Ballycastle. As for the team itself it looks very light on scoring forwards. Only McFall is a consistent score getter in that forward line. Shiels may eventually become one but he is too young at the minute to rely on. I also hope that someone is coaching Johnny Campbell how to stop a man solo running otherwise the Cats wil run straight down the middle of the field. Personally I would much rather see Karl Mckeegan at CHB with Paddy Richmond and Johnny Tosh ( if they are fit ) in the forward line. Kids are all very well but we need experienced consistent players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2007, 01:26:04 PM
Its a bit ratty that ryan, neal or pinky, dont get a start in there own back yard. karls a great player why are they playing him out the wing and not in the centre?? that new pitch in the town looks massive god help the people doing the chasing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 24, 2007, 02:19:03 PM
Cant understand the logic of not playing McKeregan at centre back.The last 3 years Sambo has been writing in Irish News how great he was at centre back. Will Sambo give his young lad a chance surely. Shane must be in an awarkward position, training away getting no games but cant stop cos daddys in charge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2007, 03:42:10 PM
heard sambo's lad is handy, but for him to be on the team he'd have to be the best by a mile. mc manus is good at club level seen him play. but surely someone with more strength would be better suited to chf. p richmond or pinky?? but its good to see the county arent being soft with winker hes got away with it for to long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2007, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on March 24, 2007, 02:19:03 PM
Cant understand the logic of not playing McKeregan at centre back.The last 3 years Sambo has been writing in Irish News how great he was at centre back. Will Sambo give his young lad a chance surely. Shane must be in an awarkward position, training away getting no games but cant stop cos daddys in charge

Karl may clear ball at CHB but he lets his man run riot and is a very loose marker, your first job as a back is to stop your man......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 24, 2007, 07:06:47 PM
Truth, do you consider Johnny Campbell a good man marker? For my money Mckeegan would be a much better bet at CHB. With regards to Shane MCNaughton he is OK but nothing more than that. We already have two teenagers in the forward line in Shiels and McManus we dont need a third.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2007, 10:07:36 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 24, 2007, 07:06:47 PM
Truth, do you consider Johnny Campbell a good man marker? For my money Mckeegan would be a much better bet at CHB. With regards to Shane MCNaughton he is OK but nothing more than that. We already have two teenagers in the forward line in Shiels and McManus we dont need a third.

I wouldnt even have Johhny Campbell on the team never mind CHB but it still doesent change my opinion about Mc Keegan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 25, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
was result as bad as it sounds??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 25, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
was result as bad as it sounds??

As far as i know it was, we only scored twice from play i think. There can be no excuses about playing conditions today. I said last week that  after today we have a better idea of where we were at as i wouldnt read too much into last weeks match due to the conditions. But judging by the result it sounds grim, and with Dublin (they beat Limerick today) up next it isnt getting any easier........No doubt we will get the usual "They are only young lads" crap threw at us after the game by Terry & Woody
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 04:22:30 PM
From the moment Eddie Brennan goaled after 1 minute the result was never in doubt. Antrim kept plugging away but just were not good enough. the result was probably a true reflection.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 04:22:30 PM
From the moment Eddie Brennan goaled after 1 minute the result was never in doubt. Antrim kept plugging away but just were not good enough. the result was probably a true reflection.

They said on the radio Brennan gave Elliott a torrid time, fair comment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
Couldnt beliebe Kenin Elliott was kept on Brennan until 5 or 10 mins into the second when he was taken. Though Brennan was flying. Couldnt understand why they played the 3rd midfielder, every ball they played to the full forward line was picked by the spare man..the full back. Match was over when goal scored. Only 3 points from play, all from Michael Herron in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 04:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 04:30:09 PM
Couldnt beliebe Kenin Elliott was kept on Brennan until 5 or 10 mins into the second when he was taken. Though Brennan was flying. Couldnt understand why they played the 3rd midfielder, every ball they played to the full forward line was picked by the spare man..the full back. Match was over when goal scored. Only 3 points from play, all from Michael Herron in the second half

How did Stewart play at full forward and Mc Keegan at half forward?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 04:35:51 PM
Karl stewart was moved to wing half forward at start & karl to midfield, both were pretty poor. Full back line was working overtime & improved as match went on, johnny campbell done ok in first half but roasted in 2nd half...why is he on??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 06:29:17 PM
K Elliot got a knock after 10 mins and limped from then on until he was replaced 10 mins into the second half. Brennan was destroying him before the injury having scored 1-2 from play in the first 10 mins. After 20 mins I heard elliot ask the physio if he could come off as he was limping badly but he was kept on Brennan until 10 mins after half time. Very strange decision. Also the two man full forward line did not stand a chance. Jackie Tyrell and Noel Hickey the corner men and a huge full back sweeping behind cleaned up everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 25, 2007, 07:43:04 PM
Jim Mc Keirnan Paul Mc Killen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 25, 2007, 08:41:50 PM
I think we saw today the folly of playing fellas just out of minor, Mc Manus was manhandled and hardly got a touch nor did Shields. Kilkenny were never out of 3rd gear. Can anyone tell me that they see any difference this year in Antrim compared to other years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 08:48:47 PM
Someone told me there is a young fella Burke from St Galls is a sub for Antrim seniors and is also a sub for St Galls seniors and is yet to play for them !! Are Sambo and Woody taking the piss or what? Im all for giving youth a chance but that is ridiculous if its true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 09:13:41 PM
Aye cant believe that Sean Burke is on the panel now, seen him last year for the minors & he was poor enough. Neil should have been moved to midfield, he's not a forward. Kilkenny just coasted it after the first 10 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
After watching today I really think its not doing the young guys any favours keeping them in there. Shiels and McManus didnt get a look in. Much more of this and their confidence will be shot to ribbons. Does anyone know what the story is with Paddy Richmond and Johnny Tosh. Are they fit and if they are why are they not involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 09:17:14 PM
Paddy Richmond hurt his ribs in training during the week, dont know about Tosh, I presume he's only returning from his operation. They are badly missed.Where was Pinky today, was he even a sub??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
After watching today I really think its not doing the young guys any favours keeping them in there. Shiels and McManus didnt get a look in. Much more of this and their confidence will be shot to ribbons. Does anyone know what the story is with Paddy Richmond and Johnny Tosh. Are they fit and if they are why are they not involved?

I agree with you about Mc Manus and Shields being done no favours, they are not ready for this level of hurling, Tosh is still working his way back to full fitness after a groin operation,he was a sub today but never got on, Glenariffe were playing Kilmacud Crokes this weekend in a friendly in Dublin, i think the Antrim Management would have been better served letting him play that to work on his fitness. What good did it do him today not getting on? But then it seems there are more questions than answers with the current Antrim set up.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 09:33:18 PM
Glenariffe were going on a piss up..it would have hardly have helped much. I think some of their selections(sambo&woody) are baffling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 25, 2007, 09:47:20 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 25, 2007, 09:33:18 PM
Glenariffe were going on a piss up..it would have hardly have helped much. I think some of their selections(sambo&woody) are baffling.

How did it help scratching his nuts today? If he isnt fit enough yet dont name him on the panel, if he is fit put him on. Tosh isnt much of a man for the drink anyway, some of his county colleagues could teach him a thing or two in that regard......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 25, 2007, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 25, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
After watching today I really think its not doing the young guys any favours keeping them in there. Shiels and McManus didnt get a look in. Much more of this and their confidence will be shot to ribbons.

Totally agree SCB. Its just too much too soon for these lads. They need time to develop ffs.

Regarding Antrim and their performance, it was hardly a surprise to any of us was it? We are where we are..... out of out depth in Div1. Of course we'll catch the odd team on the hop but the reality is we just don't have the players to compete at this level. Plenty of endeavour but that is it. I feel sorry for the players because they have been talked up into something that they are not by the current management. And for Karl McKeegan to come out and say that he thinks that Antrim could win an all ireland within 4 years is up there with the dinnism's of the past. On what grounds did he base that prediction on? Is it not time for us to put a bit more focus on our local competitions for a few years and accept where we are on a national level? Until we develop strong players through the club leagues there is no point trying to "force" county success at the expense of those club competitions, which we have been doing for years.

Have to say I thought KK were sublime today. Theiy were very strong running with the ball and their support play was very impressive. They may not have had the best of NHL's but I think they are pacing themselves right for later in the year. My tip for the AI this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 26, 2007, 09:49:15 AM
dissapointing performance alright yesterday, not for two minutes had thecrowd reason to be involved.

I could understand the theory o Ciaran Herron bein used in front of a full back line, but the reality was he didn't influene the play at all from this position, mainly because of how well KK used the ball and opened up the wings.  The cross field ball and movement of the fll forward line for Eddie Brennans goal was excellent and at times it was a joy to watch.

In contrast Antrim played every ball down the throat of Brian Hogan at full back, he'll have few easier halfs of hurling than he had in Ballycastle.  Our corner forwards were poor from play but really what chance had they. 

Antrim made a lot of basic mistakes, mishit clearances, hand passes to nobody etc. 

I'm dissapointed Antrim look like going to Div 2 next year, esp since its Dunloy's centenary and where Cushendall had Tipp, Ballycastle had Kilkenny we'll prob get Armagh/Derry/Wicklow.  No disrespect to those counties but not exactly a glamour tie.  I also have a big fear that this lack of success in NHL will lead to more and more training and emphasis being placed on county training, club fixtures could suffer.  though  hope common sense prevails
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 26, 2007, 10:36:48 AM
Did anyone else think that McManus was a dirty wee hoor yesterday and full deserved the dunt that he got in the second half? He was early on almost every dropping ball. Alot to learn if he thought he could rough up an experienced KK side at senior level and not expect the same medicine for his actions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 26, 2007, 10:37:15 AM
What makes us think that we are any better than a 16 point defeat to Kilkenny? These heavy defeats are nothing new, but it does not help when we have players, Sean Delargy & Karl Mc Keegan to name 2 spouting about winning an All Ireland within 3-4 years. At some stage you have to back these claims up.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 26, 2007, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 26, 2007, 10:36:48 AM
Did anyone else think that McManus was a dirty wee hoor yesterday and full deserved the dunt that he got in the second half? He was early on almost every dropping ball. Alot to learn if he thought he could rough up an experienced KK side at senior level and not expect the same medicine for his actions.

Totally agree, he has to realise he is not playing minor anymore. He was swinging back the whole time and Tennyson gave him his medicine back. If he keeps that up he will get a hammering some day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 26, 2007, 11:33:22 AM
Thought the Antrim were a disgrace yesterday.
Im all for giving the young boys a chance but they are not phyiscally up to it, young shields showed that.

McManus thinks he is a big lad but he will get settled before long if he keeps that attitude up.

Sambo and woody got the tatics completely wrong questions need answering!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 26, 2007, 11:58:22 AM
Was not at the game yesterday so I can't comment  (was playing for our thirds in football!!! (tut tut tut I hear you say) but the result was never in any doubt, great weather new pitch and Kilkenny searching for points and a high scoring return needed.
To improve Antrim we need 40 players of the same standard busting a gut to get on the Antrim panel but with the drop in standards at club games and the counties insistence of playing a two way league for football (of which all games are played with no hassle and we are still ranked 31) and giving the senior hurlers 12 games for the year, will and has had a knock on effect on the county team. If club hurlers were getting 20 games a year at division 1 standard then I guarantee that you would unearth more hurlers for the county teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 26, 2007, 12:31:38 PM
I just don't understand what management thought they we going to get from their 2 man inside forward line yesterday. I can understand the reason why they wanted to pack the defense a bit more, but what they left up front was two players who don't possess a turn of speed to threaten any full back line. Paul Sheilds is a class act, but is just too young and physically underdeveloped for this level of hurling and corner forward is not a position he would ever thrive in at any level. Brian McFall has never had a turn of pace. What did the management expect?

The big problem however is the level of expectation set by Sambo and Woody. And for these expectations to be backed up by some of the players, shows how delusional the whole set up must be although I'm sure many of the players just don't buy it. Of course we would all love it to be the case, but the rest of us are living on a different world....it is called the real world. Set some realistic goals (not just County team specific, but broader than that) that are achievable but require hard work to achieve and then progress can be made. But for that to happen, Sambo would have to admit that he was wrong about the potential that exists at the current time and that improvements in Antrim hurling is indeed a much tougher and multifaceted problem that needs addressed at all levels before some level of progress will be seen at a national level. The chances of that happening are very slight. I expect the same rhetoric in the weeks and months to come.

Agree with your comments millltown...there is too little hurling being played yet we wonder why the talent is not there :-\. But try telling that to those in power :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 26, 2007, 05:36:35 PM
Syd the Sailor...you asked yesterday how did Stewart play at full forward & McKeegan play at half forward, then today you said that 'McManus was swinging back the whole time & Tennyson gave him his medicine back  ??? so where you at the match or wot??

I agree Neil did slap a few boys & probably deserved a slap, probably a frustration of playing Full Forward in the second half, he shouldnt be played there cos aint a forward!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 26, 2007, 06:23:09 PM
Well, I was at the match and I can tell you Syd and the Skull were spot on in their analysis. McManus was pushing his luck and got his medicine. Anyway..the whole performance was a disgrace, Antrim almost unbelievably actually seem to have regressed since last year.
How on earth do KilKenny men come out of a scramble for the ball while antrim men fumble around them. This happened time and time again. The match was a chore to watch, certainly not worth the 8 quid. Still, at least I got a 'free' ticket to win ..another ticket for the real draw. What the f*uck is that all about?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 26, 2007, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 26, 2007, 05:36:35 PM
Syd the Sailor...you asked yesterday how did Stewart play at full forward & McKeegan play at half forward, then today you said that 'McManus was swinging back the whole time & Tennyson gave him his medicine back  ??? so where you at the match or wot??

I agree Neil did slap a few boys & probably deserved a slap, probably a frustration of playing Full Forward in the second half, he shouldnt be played there cos aint a forward!!!

I wasnt at the match but my scouts were and i think it was fair comment what i said by all accounts. Mc Manus is still too young, he is a prime case of someone suffering from burnout if they ask him to do too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 26, 2007, 09:35:09 PM
I didnt see any post match comment attributed to Terry Mc Naughton, maybe he just has a soundbite when they win. I also think that in recognition of the 200th anniversary of the abolition of slavery he should change his nickname from  "Sambo" to something in keeping with these more tolerant times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 27, 2007, 08:59:51 AM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on March 26, 2007, 08:44:49 PM

I wasnt at the match but my scouts were and i think it was fair comment what i said by all accounts. Mc Manus is still too young, he is a prime case of someone suffering from burnout if they ask him to do too much.

We'll let you off with it this time Syd. Though you sound like a fair weather fan to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 27, 2007, 08:59:51 AM

We'll let you off with it this time Syd. Though you sound like a fair weather fan to me.

I will be in Casement tomorrow night Artie, will you? You couldnt exactly call any Antrim supporter a glory hunter, lets hope Terry can rally the troops and get stuck into the Jackeens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 27, 2007, 09:16:09 AM
What do we think will be the team for wed night?

Can we see any improvement or is it actually going to be worse getting the same performance against a Dublin team that we were beating last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: NAG on March 27, 2007, 09:16:09 AM
What do we think will be the team for wed night?

Can we see any improvement or is it actually going to be worse getting the same performance against a Dublin team that we were beating last year?

Well Dublin have improved immensely and we have just stayed at the same mediocre level. I think there will be changes in the forwards with Johhny Tosh probably coming in and maybe Paddy Richmond.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Syd either you are a big Antrim man or you aren't! Which is it?!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 10:23:40 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Syd either you are a big Antrim man or you aren't! Which is it?!  ;)

Tony i have been monitoring your posts closely and you are full of crap, i have followed Antrim all over the country but am not gonna be blinded by all the rubbish Terry & Woody spouted at the start of the year. Ithink its obvious the experiment of playing U-14's at Senior Intercounty level is not working. I am currently on AA roadmap preparing for the trips to Carlow & Kildare next year.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
Look Syd, Antrim are lucky to have one of the greatest hurlers Ireland has seen at the helm. Get full square behind the players and management and remember - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 10:36:57 AM
seriously lads some people are using this board as a way of spouting the biggest load of crap!!!

ruari og welll said bout syd!! syd u made it sound like you where a die hard supporter up at the match watching young mc manus!! but a bad liar always forgets what he has said previously!! also one minute ur saying players are a disgrace for goin on a piss up and then ur saying tosh should go down to dublin on one with glenariffe!! so please make ur mind up and stop talking nonsense!!!

its the this defeatist attitude that annoys me about antrim/ulster hurling!! people are too ready too point the finger of blame!! its starts from the roots!! its starts from you 30/40 year olds 20 years ago who didnt give a flying crap about making antrim successful!! ok maybe sambo and woody made a mistake believing in these players but what did you want them to say our best hurlers in antrim are rubbiosh and are goin to get beat!!!

I read an article in irish news a few weeks ago with graham clark form down and he said "i am a major fan of the cork team and it is an honour to play on the same pitch" or something close to that!! where is ulster hurling goin with this defeatist attitude!!! do you want the antrim players to be saying the same??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 10:45:58 AM
Saffron i had other commitments, i was washing my hair but i will be at Casement tomorrow night, i will slide you my pass through the fence if you want. The point i was making about Tosh was his fitness was not going to be improved scratching his nuts on Sunday. An was there anything in my post describing myself as "a die hard supporter", was what i said about Mc Manus fair comment ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
"He was swinging back the whole time and Tennyson gave him his medicine back. If he keeps that up he will get a hammering some day."

this would suggest u witnessed it with your own two eyes!! i believe 90% of people here would agree that u think u a gd antrim supporter but well let the majority speak! oh u have a pass oh please do pass it out to me!!! yet again u think ur better than everyone!! pay at the gate like a true gael!! suppose u get ur wee all ireland ticket every year too!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on March 27, 2007, 11:08:55 AM
Lads, easy does it.

We all get a bit carried away, myself included, but at the end of the day we would all give our right arm for a football or hurling team to be playing top flight.

Personally, I think we ARE on a progressive curve, and there are a lot of things happening that we could not have foreseen three or four years ago. Dont make me spell these out.

We are producing a better type of young hurler or footballer than for a long time, and believe it or not most of these young men do see it as a big honour to play for their county.

We are a work in progress, and it will take several more years, but it all starts with BELIEF.

Please give the new management, and players the time and respect they deserve. Everyone knows its a three or four year plan, and its not fair to be jumping on the bandwagon after a few defeats.

I`m backing Woody and Sambo to the hilt, and this includes any defeat that may come our way in the short term, and that may include tomorrow night. The average age of our players is by far the youngest playing at that level, and its a big reality check for some people.

But they are in the best possible hands to get the best out of them, so give the process a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
"He was swinging back the whole time and Tennyson gave him his medicine back. If he keeps that up he will get a hammering some day."

this would suggest u witnessed it with your own two eyes!! i believe 90% of people here would agree that u think u a gd antrim supporter but well let the majority speak! oh u have a pass oh please do pass it out to me!!! yet again u think ur better than everyone!! pay at the gate like a true gael!! suppose u get ur wee all ireland ticket every year too!!

Forgive me for not quoting my sources watching the match,i have a pass that gains me free entry? Should i pay in? Answers on a postcard please. Did you not know anyone that has a free pass is better than the common people that dont, its a real status symbol- a pass that gets you in free to watch a Div2 NHL match. I wouldnt be too bothered about the county team, club hurling in Antrim has been ruined at their expense, and where has it got us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 27, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Tony???
"Look Syd, Antrim are lucky to have one of the greatest hurlers Ireland has seen at the helm. Get full square behind the players and management and remember - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."

Tony I really hope you are talking about woody there with that statement otherwise any credibility you had on this sight just went up in smoke. The other fella wasnt even the best Hurler in the Cushendall half back line never mind in Antrim or Ireland.

Please get a grip, its their job to get performances out of the players and they arent doing that at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 27, 2007, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on March 27, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Tony???
"Look Syd, Antrim are lucky to have one of the greatest hurlers Ireland has seen at the helm. Get full square behind the players and management and remember - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."

Tony I really hope you are talking about woody there with that statement otherwise any credibility you had on this sight just went up in smoke. The other fella wasnt even the best Hurler in the Cushendall half back line never mind in Antrim or Ireland.

Please get a grip, its their job to get performances out of the players and they arent doing that at present.

I think Tony maybe works for the "Sambo" PR machine, Leonard Mc Keegan was a far better player but didint have the bald head and media profile......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
Look Syd, Antrim are lucky to have one of the greatest hurlers Ireland has seen at the helm. Get full square behind the players and management and remember - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Excuse me while I throw up. What they hell does getting behind the players and management mean in practical terms Tony? Is it biblical blind faith you want us all to have? Don't question...follow?
And can you tell me how the man in the street can play any part in a solution to hurling in Antrim when the powers that be invest so much of our summer months trying to attain success at a national level, all while hurling at club level (I speak of div 1 only) is being ruined year on year by the excessive training regimes, challenge matches, intercounty matches, stopping players from representing/training with their clubs. Mabye it's because of this,  that alot of club hurling people (the bread and butter supporter of hurling - not a fly by night "county man") are actaully resentful of the County team/administration. Their dilusional asperations are strangling the game and the very people you talk about (the very people who are at the coal face of hurling in this county) can see it.

All you dyed in the wool "Antrim" men must be from the lower division clubs and don't realise what hurling has been like in div 1 ever since we got to the final in 89, so the real problems in Antrim hurling are not Sambo and Woody's making. The club game is now an after thought and not even considered meaningful by those who strive for success at a national level. year on year the have placed all their eggs in the one basket leaving club hurling stranded. Is it any wonder standards have dropped???  But Tony you would rather we just shut our mouth and "get full square behind" the erosion of our games at a local level? Do you know whats going on at all? Give me your take on it


....just on a side point, there wasn't too many people "supporting" antrim on sunday. They were watching, not supporting. I'll be listening for you on tomorrow night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 27, 2007, 12:53:43 PM
Skull......I think the boul Tony was being mischievous and doing a bit of stirring, i know he is not a fan of Sambos......Everyone took the bait though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 27, 2007, 01:39:15 PM
"The other fella wasnt even the best Hurler in the Cushendall half back line never mind in Antrim or Ireland."

I have heard it from quite a few ruairi ogs that Sambo was the best man ever to pull on the maroon and white. And possibly the saffron jersey. I havent seen him play that much myself so i cant comment but if thats not true where did the myth come from.??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on March 27, 2007, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 27, 2007, 01:39:15 PM
"The other fella wasnt even the best Hurler in the Cushendall half back line never mind in Antrim or Ireland."

I have heard it from quite a few ruairi ogs that Sambo was the best man ever to pull on the maroon and white. And possibly the saffron jersey. I havent seen him play that much myself so i cant comment but if thats not true where did the myth come from.??

i think another case of stirring  ;)

Anyway does it really matter how good or bad he was, because someone was or is a good hurler doesnt mean they will be a good manager or coach.

and syd, one minute your on saying this and that about county hurling then you say your not too bothered about county hurling, why so many posts if your not too bothered, make up your mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 02:20:55 PM
QuoteLook Syd, Antrim are lucky to have one of the greatest hurlers Ireland has seen at the helm. Get full square behind the players and management and remember - if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Tongue was firmly in cheek fools!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: Noname on March 27, 2007, 02:16:04 PM
Anyway does it really matter how good or bad he was, because someone was or is a good hurler doesnt mean they will be a good manager or coach.

and syd, one minute your on saying this and that about county hurling then you say your not too bothered about county hurling, why so many posts if your not too bothered, make up your mind.
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I watch and follow Antrim mainly to see good players on the opposition  ;D The point im trying to make is i wouldnt lose any sleep over an Antrim defeat, compared to a bad club result, hope that clears it up for you. Its the continual chasing the unattainable that is screwing our club game up. If we had a strong competitive clubgame with regular games you would see an improved county team......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 02:48:37 PM
Syd you really aren't showing any consistency. You need to make up your mind - you're like Jekyll and Hyde!

You'll probably be lying blocked in the Whitefort tomorrow instead of in the ground supporting Terry's heroes on the pitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 02:48:37 PM
Syd you really aren't showing any consistency. You need to make up your mind - you're like Jekyll and Hyde!

You'll probably be lying blocked in the Whitefort tomorrow instead of in the ground supporting Terry's heroes on the pitch!

The problem with the Antrim team is too many of them are lying blocked in the Whitefort......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 27, 2007, 03:03:57 PM
Any team news for wednesday. I would hope there would be two or three changes from Sunday. I do not like to pick out individuals but I believe K Elliot should be changed simply because if you are cleaned out that badly you should not keep your place. I would also change the forward line as we were really toothless and our scores in all three league games have been quite low.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 27, 2007, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 27, 2007, 03:03:57 PM
Any team news for wednesday. I would hope there would be two or three changes from Sunday. I do not like to pick out individuals but I believe K Elliot should be changed simply because if you are cleaned out that badly you should not keep your place. I would also change the forward line as we were really toothless and our scores in all three league games have been quite low.

In fairness to Elliott would Brennan not have done that to any of our backs? And its not as if the rest of the backs performances were of a very high standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
once again syd u where not there so please dont criticise!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 27, 2007, 04:22:56 PM
I do not want to have a go at Elliot as I think he is a fine club player. However he was severly out of his depth on Sunday. His positional play and his tackling were badly found wanting. Would Brennan have done that to any of our players, possibly, but he did it to Elliot no one else. I just believe that all teams should have standards and when someone fails to perform there should be consequences. Look at Ger Loughnane with Galway, Dublin beat Galway and Ger Farragher has a poor game, the following week he isnt involved at all. I know Galway have a bigger pick and are a better team but if we just accept what has happened in the first three games we are accepting defeat before we step on the pitch.
As I said earlier also our forward line needs a thorough rethink as it is not performing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on March 27, 2007, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
once again syd u where not there so please dont criticise!!!

this time i will have to stick up for syd, hes wasnt really crticising, but was right, Brennan would have skinned any back on Sunday, saying that i thought the Full Back line played reasonably well or maybe better to say they where our best line (which i know wouldnt be hard.  But when you have players out the field who have time to pick out players it is hard too mark them, and with midfielders and half forwards running off the ball unopposed its hard to stop.

albeit we got stuffed i also thought only 2 goals conceded wasnt too bad, i expected more against a team with players renouned for scoring goals.

on a positive point i noticed we along with Monaghan are the only teams who havent scored a goal in the all the Leagues. something wrong in the forwards me thinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2007, 05:17:05 PM
Tosh will rattle the net if he gets back at it. Despite what the rest of the team do you'd expect him to weigh in with a handful of scores if he gets decent ball.

QuoteI know Galway have a bigger pick and are a better team but if we just accept what has happened in the first three games we are accepting defeat before we step on the pitch.

Agreed - if you play shit but keep your place match after match you're not going to have any incentive to pull your socks up! A wee stint on the bench is maybe what some of the saffrons need.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 27, 2007, 07:06:50 PM
In the form Eddie Brennan has been in this year & last year Kevin Elliott was always going to struggle & very much did so. His confidence will be low but he'll be back. I would bring Ciaran Herron to half back & start Martin Sculllion in midfield. I'd move Karl back to CHB, yes he is a loose man marker but he's a far better option than Johnny Campbell. Brendan Herron has to be looking over his shoulder after his performance on Sunday. Hope Tosh is back...we need his scores bigtime. Alot of pressure on Antrim & the management after the performance on Sunday. I thought that we were far too nice on Sunday, can anyone remember a hard(but fair)tackle from an Antrim player?? I dont expect Antrim to beat Kilkenny but I do expect abit of passion, which was sadly lacking on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 27, 2007, 07:42:59 PM
I have to agree with all u say ruari og and I was not wanting to start a campaign against K elliot who is a fine player but unfortunately ran into an excellent eddie brennan. I would hope there are quite a lot of them looking over the shoulder. Realistically 4-5 changes called for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 27, 2007, 11:42:40 PM
Stirring it? Moi?  ;D

Barney McAuley was the only man who earned his position for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 28, 2007, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 27, 2007, 04:17:13 PM
once again syd u where not there so please dont criticise!!!

Where was the criticism? Happy to discuss.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 28, 2007, 01:02:53 PM
Any ideas why DD Quinn is not on tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 28, 2007, 01:13:28 PM
Syd you should get out more - they seem to be chopping between him and McGarry. You should do nets if you think you're better!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2007, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on March 28, 2007, 01:02:53 PM
Any ideas why DD Quinn is not on tonight?

More to the point how is Karl Stewart/Paul Shields on and Johhny Tosh isnt???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 28, 2007, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 28, 2007, 01:13:28 PM
Syd you should get out more - I don't think DD has played in the last 2 matches!

Tony you should read the papers more , he played against Kilkenny.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 28, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
where is the team named at

can someone post it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NICSSA on March 28, 2007, 03:09:22 PM
From today's Irish News:

R McGarry

B McAuley
M McCambridge
S Delargy

M Molloy
J Campbell
C Herron

K McKeegan
B Herron

M Herron
N McManus
K Stewart

B McFall
P Richmond
P Shields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tayto on March 28, 2007, 03:57:32 PM
Any radio above covering the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2007, 04:30:58 PM
I don't think so tayto
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tayto on March 28, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
damn. your as badly served by local radio as dublin it seems? most of the rest of the country seem to have their matches covered by local radio.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 28, 2007, 07:32:17 PM
Couldnt make the match tonite as I was not home from work in time. Can anyone who was at the match post up the result and quick report
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on March 28, 2007, 08:01:23 PM
1-10 - 8 pts for Antrim.

Seem to be updates on bbc website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6504959.stm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on March 28, 2007, 08:37:20 PM
couldnt make the match either, not home from work :-(

just heard they won, any reports?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on March 28, 2007, 08:42:49 PM
Antrim 1-13 Dublin 12 pts. Thats all i know.

So we can beat the traditionally weaker counties despite Dublins good form, but as usual shit ourselves against the stronger counties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2007, 08:47:59 PM
Why has Liam Watson left the Antrim team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on March 28, 2007, 08:55:15 PM
Saffrons surprise Dublin in NHL 
Antrim produced a superb display to beat Dublin 1-13 to 0-12 in Wednesday's Allianz NHL clash at Casement Park.
The superb Neil McManus scored Antrim's goal on the stroke of half-time which helped the Saffrons lead 1-6 to 0-6.

McManus and Brian McFall brought up their tallies up to 1-3 and 0-5 as Antrim increased their advantage to 1-10 to 0-8.

Two frees from sub Johnny McIntosh and keeper Ryan McGarry's late save from a 21-metre free kept Antrim in front.

Antrim had lost their three previous games in the league and were facing an in-form Dublin side who had claimed five points from their three matches.

A crowd of almost 3,000 watched the first ever intercounty hurling match played under lights at Casement.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 28, 2007, 09:06:53 PM
3000 for a wednesday night is a good turn out if true. Good result also, good to see tosh back on the pitch he has been badly missed. Well done to McManus if he scored 1-3 from play a big improvement from him. If anyone was at the game what was it like with the lights, did you loose the ball against them, I am thinking at puck outs you might loose the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 28, 2007, 09:08:27 PM
Orior, Liam Watson refused to travel to Tipperary on St Pats day prefering to drown his shamrock instead and has been kicked off the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 28, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
That's a great result for the Glensmen, the Dubs were going very well this year, well done!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: INDIANA on March 28, 2007, 10:04:47 PM
disastrous result for dublin- and it's typical- we 've a dreadful record up there which continues. Fair play to antrim but it's  areality check for the rest of us who thought there was a revival on the way- the same inadequacies remain- the best teams beat the average teams like antrim- the average teams like ourselves lose against them. The travel etc was tough but both teams played at the weekend so we can't complain- probably undid all the earlier work we done. You'd have to wonder are dublin an average team that just got lucky-lads must be devastated- to beat the best and then get beaten by someone who's struggling- nothing worse- but it appears antrim deserved it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 28, 2007, 10:14:07 PM
Just back from match.Very good win so far play to the lads as lot of pressure on them, should have won by more, alot of bad wides, wrong options but I though there was alot of fight by our boys, tackling was good. Ciaran Herron was excellent in half back, I said yesterday he had to start there ;), Malachy Molloy much improved from Sunday.Thought Karl mcKeegan covered very well at times.McManus done well especially in the first half. Michael Herron was alot better in the second half, cos his man cleared alot of ball in the 1st half. Barney wasnt poor enough tonight, especially in the second half.Any other views??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 28, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
Would agree with that Ruairi Og Exile - a lot of the time the wrong option taken in the forwards - Paddy Richmond didnt have one of his better games - dont think he got a score all game (missed first couple of mins) - just wasnt his usual self - won plenty of ball but took shots when a pass would have been better option.

Barney must have been affected by the lights as at least twice he dropped balls he seemed to have caught on the edge of the square - but thanks to the better tackling on the night he got away with this.  I though Shields would have been taken off instead of McFall - he is definitely not strong enough yet though his agility got him out of trouble a number of times.

A win none the less but much improvement needed if we are to trouble Limerick down there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2007, 10:37:53 PM
Some may say I'm being a bit critical, but I think tonights win was more about Dublin not showing up rather than Antrim raising their game to the standard where Dublin  have been at in previous weeks. Definately they up the effort 100%, but the standard wasn't any better. Fair play to them for getting the win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 28, 2007, 10:41:41 PM
Yeah Skull, thought Dublin were pretty poor, their half forward line was non-exsistent, they had very little attacks in the second half. McFall huffed when coming off, I would have had him earlier for Tosh, he had alot of ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 29, 2007, 08:44:26 AM
Any chance of some player ratings from last nights game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Keyser_Soze on March 29, 2007, 08:47:10 AM
First of all just a general comment about the lights:  it looks good from a spectators point of view but I would imagine you could lose the ball quite easily as someone earlier pointed out. 

Onto the game itself.  Not brilliant hurling as others have said but a very gutsey performance and it was great to see this from Antrim.  It was disappointing to see Brian McFalls reaction when he was replaced by Tosh late on, he ran straight off the pitch into the changing rooms and I would imagine he was showered, changed and on his way home before the final whistle blew.  He shouldn't have been that suprised either, apart from his frees he hardly got a look in, his lack of pace was very apparent. 

Still a lot of basic errors from Antrim, exemplified by near the end McKeegan was hitting a line ball and hit it short to Paul Shields.  Shields treid to pick it up, missed it and tried to tap it back to Karl.  He was tackled, and Dublin made their way up the field - very frustrating to watch from a spectators point of view.

Just on Paul Shilds again, he played a full game for Antrim last night and he is going out today to captain his school's soccer team in the Northern Ireland cup.  I'm not a soccer man but fair play!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Keyser_Soze on March 29, 2007, 08:49:14 AM
QuoteAny chance of some player ratings from last nights game?

The Irish News today carries a report and player ratings.  I just bought the paper, I don't have access to the website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tayto on March 29, 2007, 08:50:27 AM
Fair play to antrim, I had a feeling you would give us a reality check.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2007, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: Keyser_Soze on March 29, 2007, 08:47:10 AM

Just on Paul Shilds again, he played a full game for Antrim last night and he is going out today to captain his school's soccer team in the Northern Ireland cup.  I'm not a soccer man but fair play!



Well that is abuse, plain and simple >:(. Its not as if he was running the game last night, but he was made to be the free man and cover the ground in front of the full back line and then push forward up into attack time and time again. Sambo and Woody are going to ruin shorty if he or they don't catch themselves on. He is being treated like a commodity. fcuk that makes me angry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 29, 2007, 09:32:08 AM
Heres my tuppence worth:


First and foremost a much improved performance and shows what a bit of effort can do.  They got stuck in well.

Its amazing what a bit of belief and a different attitude/mindset can do;

Overalll a v disappointing game in terms of stanard.  given that the dubs posted some great results this year, their performance was poor.  genuinely disappointed that they are now unlikely to make the play-offs and this is likely to be a big bl;ow  in terms of their c'ship confidence.  It would be good to see a new team challenge some of the bigger guns, even it is the dubs!

The referee was nothing short of awful.  I never slept last night as there was constant blowing of a whistle in my ear!

Ciaran Herron was star man by a country mile.  Very impressive.  Other to impress were Ryan in nets, Mc Manus, Molly, S Delargy.  Karl seemed to be covering for J Campbell a lot with the effect that campbell was anonymous.  Mickey Mc Cambridge was solid.  Barney didn;t have his best day but he was out in front most of the time which is half the battle- he just fumbled one or two and paid the price.  Mc Falls reaction to being called ashore was out of order.  As someone has already said, his lack of pace was apparent and he got away with taking it 3 in the hand which is a basic error- pretty steady on the close in frees.

This isn;t meant to be over critical, merely a point of observation- in the first half we had a fair breeze behind us.  We had 4 very scoreable frees from between the 2 70 yard lines.  Each free was taken by a different person  -Mc Fall, Karl, Mal Molly and Barney McAuley.  Not one scored.  Surely any free taker deserves a second chance to learn from his first mistake/correct his error with the experience of one effort behind him?  partciular when there is a tricky breeze!  This could have been crucial in what was a tight match.  To me, that is a mangement issue and shows a lack of proper direction pre match.


Anyway, fair paly to the lads.  It will be interesting to see how they shape up against Limerick.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 29, 2007, 09:40:54 AM
There was no doubting the effort last night, they got stuck in from the first minute to the last. I didnt think the standard was great last night though, i think that match was as much about how poor Dublin were, dont know if it was the journey up in the middle of the week or the chance to reach the QF'S if they won but they didnt look like a team that has beaten Galway, Limerick and drew with Kilkenny. I couldnt believe Tosh wasnt on sooner, Karl Stewart never hit a ball, Mc Fall did nothing other than hit frees and Shields seems a bit light, every time he was hit he was going backwards, he couldnt break tackles. Mc Falls reaction to getting taken off was typical, he would rather score a pile of frees and get beaten than not score and win. There will have to be an improvement again against Limerick on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on March 29, 2007, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on March 29, 2007, 09:40:54 AM
Mc Falls reaction to getting taken off was typical, he would rather score a pile of frees and get beaten than not score and win.

so very true Syd, he is not the only one though, this i think is a problem with too many of our hurlers, as long as the name gets in the paper doesnt matter if they win or lose.

but thats a matter for another day, good result last night, wasnt at the match (work :-(  ) so cant comment on performance etc.  just hope people still realise there is a lot of work to be done and that this result doesnt do much except give the lads a bit of confidence which is part of the battle.

lets have patience ad hopefully progress with county teams, instead of barracking county managers and players we ALL need to be constantly at the people in charge of this county and of clubs to get the leagues sorted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on March 29, 2007, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 28, 2007, 09:08:27 PM
Orior, Liam Watson refused to travel to Tipperary on St Pats day prefering to drown his shamrock instead and has been kicked off the panel.

Then the county are a lot better of without him. I wish that same example could be exercised in clubs too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2007, 01:26:56 PM
Excellent win and one which brings Dublin right back down to earth with a bang.

In a lot of these matches I don't think Antrim even believe they can compete whereas Dublin are a team they have always believed they can beat. Therein is a big difference.

Good to hear McManus improved and Ciarn Herron has been off the boil a bit for a while so would be good to see him back to his former self. Shields is too young and slight for this level but there is a serious dearth of forward talent in this squad so I would say managements hands are kind of forced here. I think we have the makings of a good full and half back line but from there up I'm just not so sure the talent is there.

McFall's attitude has always stank. This is the boy who in a club match, when winning by a cricket score against GNM, hit a penalty from down on his knees. That says it all really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Poocher on March 29, 2007, 01:45:57 PM
Been hovering about for a while here, waiting to make an entrance, so ill start with this one. 

Good win last nite, if not for the performance, then the attitude.  100% commitment and a bit of passion, just what the doctor ordered.

Back line looks solid, but they have go to get rid of Johnny campbell, anonomous again last night.  Karl is a much better centre half and seemed to be clearing up johnnys mess last night.  Ciaran herron and Molloy were solid. (Personally I would have mickey kettle in before molloy).  Full back line was good, looked in trouble early on but came out on top.

Forward line is more worrying.  McFall is too slow, Karl Stewart was missing, Micko was poor enough and Shields is too light.  Paddy richmond done well, added that bit of strength and Neil McManus was good. (Still a lot to learn, likes to run to much, doesn't get rid of it quick enough).

Hate to be this critical but we wouldn't have beaten any of the munster or big leinster teams with that performance last night.  A lot of work needs to be put in on getting the basics right and keeping things simple.  Still too many mistakes and basic errors, which the big teams will capitalise on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 29, 2007, 03:18:02 PM
Just got to read all the posts. Happy days a win gives us a bit to talk about. A win is a win in my book. Effort was stepped up from Sunday, in patches there was good play. We should have won by alot more as well.

One swallow is not going to make the summer (or any summer for the next wee while) but there is room for improvement again and again if they are willing to put it in.

Here goes briefly:

McGarry - 8 - solid, good puck outs, and decent save near the end (was straight at him but still did well) Good distribution from short puck outs but arguably he was able to puck the ball out as far as his defenders were doing after receiving it

Barney - 6 - not his best game, did drop a couple of balls but he was out in front and did clear a few balls when he got them. Kettle should have been in when he was in trouble. Would have been in more trouble if his man had received more supply

Mickey McC - 7 - solid enough, no much action to be honest but did well.

Sean Delargy - 6/7 did well I thought. Maybe overcarried the ball a couple of times but did well on what was clearly their danger man. That No.13 for Dublin is one to watch, great frees, sidelines and striking and when soloing he pulled away from Delargy. Not many do that.

Molloy - 7 - solid, great in patches, a few big catches and made a couple of good clearances at the end of the 1st half.

Campbell - 6 - a wee bit anonymous alright, maybe as Karl was covering for him. Not jumping on this get campbell off the team bandwagon as he is there or thereabouts but would have him as first defender sub.

Herron - 8 1/2 - best player on the field, brilliant clearances, strong tackles. Back to the Herron of the Dinny era which we need.

Karl - 7 1/2 did well, cleared a few balls in between midfield and half back. A few wrong decisions (short free/sideline to Shields) but overall played well. Should be centre half back.

Brendan Herron - 6 - a bit anonymous but his man

Michael Herron - 7 - good second half having been behind his man a few times first half

Neil McManus - 8 - great performance. Strong on the ball, good shooting. Admittedly his decision making sometimes wasn't the best. Overcarried and when he did make the decision to pass it was too late or his handpass was weak. Good stuff though and if they are persisting using him in the forward line he could turn into a decent centre half....something Antrim have been lacking for a long time

Karl Stewart - 6 1/2 Anonymous for the main but did battle

McFall - 6 - agree with ALL said before. A bit of a pre madonna and he should have been taken off earlier. Was behind his man at ALL points largely. Great frees, though a couple missed but to act the way he did when being taken off was a joke. He needs to have a look at himself. There is a strong panel of boys training, he wasn;t doing it. Take it on the chin and move on. The rating drops to a 4 if that story about him taking a penalty off his knees is true.

Richmond - 6 1/2 - showed well enough, was quite strong on the ball and set up a couple of scores. Paddy can score from anywhere generally but last night in the first half he took two shots from the left sideline which went wide. Best performance in a wee while for me

Shields - 7 - did well. His ability did get him out of scrapes a few times. He does look like a child out there. I am not sure what the solution is. Skull I understand this talk of 'ruining him' but he is worth his place on the team, he proved that last night. Having been away for a while I never saw his progression as a juvenile but he certainly could be some player. People say he is more of a midfielder and he certainly needs to bulk up a fair bit...physical training with the county might do that?

McAuley and Tosh...not on long enough..well maybe they were but I have written enough.

FREE TAKING
Completely agree with whoever spoke of 4/5 free takers. Decisions have to be made and stuck with. Eg Molloy hits long range non scorable frees from the right and Herron from the left - or Herron both. Any scorable ones should be McFall (if he can steady his head after the amount of shaking he was doing of it on being taken off) or Tosh. Shields is an option as well.
A bit of a farce when a different man steps up to take it each time.
We should have got 3/4/5 points from long range.



On another note about Shields it'll be nearly half time in their soccer final. Takes me back and makes me feel old.
Played in that same final for the same school 8 years ago - was the only game I cried after (I have been close on a number of occasions!!) last kick of extra time beat us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 29, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2007, 01:26:56 PM

McFall's attitude has always stank. This is the boy who in a club match, when winning by a cricket score against GNM, hit a penalty from down on his knees. That says it all really.

I've seen McFall on his knees during a game in Corrigan before but it wasn't to take a penalty..
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 29, 2007, 03:38:39 PM
would pinky kelly be a good CHF?? hes a strong looking fella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 29, 2007, 03:49:01 PM
Glensman, glad someone else agrees with me about the ludicrous siutation of 5 boys taking 1 free each from 70 yards.  You wouldn;t see it at club level.  To my mind, one the managers shouldhave stepped in and given a clear instruction.  If a man misses 2/3 then fair enough, get another man on the task..

Pretty much agree with the ratings.  A few people think mc manus should be moved back but I think we have a lack of good forwards and plenty of backs.  He is one who seems to be able to play up front and I think we should persist with that.

Now that winker has shot the nest, Tosh, Richmond and McManus are prob our 3 best up front.  In my mind the other 3 forward spots are up for grabs.  M Herron is up there challenging.

Personally, would like to see Nipper quinn/Shane Mc N get a chance but that doesn;t seem likley.  K Stewart has prob put himself dwon the pecking order in the last two outings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 29, 2007, 04:54:21 PM
Syd etc. haven't much to say for themselves today after last nights heroic victory! Maybe he wasn't at the match again!  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 29, 2007, 05:04:29 PM
there in the trunk of my car i'm doing 90, ive jst done a 1/5 of vodka....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 29, 2007, 06:57:42 PM
no tony he has his free pass course he was there!! he just likes given it the bit and yapping!! one of these hate the worlds i say!! must pain him to give a bit of praise!!lol what bout that dirty hoor mc manus syd???;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 29, 2007, 07:03:44 PM
hes a hateful hoor mc manus as well as a dirty one! did he play hurling or act the big lad ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on March 29, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
Young Fella

you wudnt say that to mcmanus!!!

Was at game. Its amazin what can be achieved with the right attitude! Thought Herron was exceptional. However its one thing beating dublin, Woody and Sambo will ONLY get credit when the BEAT a BIG TEAM e.g. Limerick this Sunday. It will be interesting to see how that goes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 29, 2007, 07:39:50 PM
Have said too him and play alongside him. he roasted me and near took my head off. he is both dirty and hateful but he is also a very good hurler. In my humble opinion hippy donnelly is his equal, but he's even dirtier but strong as an ox.
Anyone mind that article in the anytown news that fella ainle o'coalline wrote during dinnys reign? That lad wasnt a bad hurler and would just be ripe age for a county call up... could he slove are forward problem or should we cast are minds north. what that fella dimm dimm from loughgiel like?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 29, 2007, 08:30:53 PM
Not gonna respond to the comments re Neil cos he's friend of mine.But Young fella, are you serious about Ainle & Dim Dim??Ainle was an alrite club hurler but not good enough. But Dim Dim are you having a laugh :D. He played against Cushendall in the County final last year, now I've watched the DVD a few times now(Well the second half  ;D) & I cant remember him hitting the ball once...no where near good enough!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 29, 2007, 09:11:42 PM
With regard to the lack of scoring forwards we suffer from why was Joe Scullion dropped from the panel? He is young tall and a good score getter. He is maybe a bit light but he is probably still under 21. As someone said earlier Pinky could do a job at CHF but once again we are converting a defender to make up for a lack of quality forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 29, 2007, 09:19:10 PM
Yeah real lack of forwards, as Podge said earlier Richmond,Tosh & McManus are prob best 3 forwards, then there is places available. Think Joey Scullion was injured & maybe the door was left open for him...can anyone confirm?? He definately could be worked with, but he does go missing in big games & doesnt like the physical side of the game. Winker is a miss, but if he goes on the piss rather than hurling then we're better off without him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 29, 2007, 09:27:41 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on March 29, 2007, 06:57:42 PM
no tony he has his free pass course he was there!! he just likes given it the bit and yapping!! one of these hate the worlds i say!! must pain him to give a bit of praise!!lol what bout that dirty hoor mc manus syd???;)

Was there any oppurtunity to give praise before last night? There is still a long way to go judging on last nights performance and some of the managements decisions baffle me. As for Mc Manus i know him and he is a good lad and i was glad to see him playing well, in time i think he will be converted to defence, he took the wrong option  a few times but he always gives you a full effort. I think the present midfield of Karl Mc Keegan and Brendan Herron is a bit ropey, but i dont agree with the campaign to get Mc Keegan back to CHB, he is far too loose on his man and lets his man hurl too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 29, 2007, 09:42:17 PM
Syd...who would you play in centre half?? Not being cheeky just asking your opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 29, 2007, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on March 29, 2007, 09:42:17 PM
Syd...who would you play in centre half?? Not being cheeky just asking your opinion

I would play Mickey Monty CHB and put Pinky to Full Back, Micky is a good tight marker which is what you have to be as a back. Its not how many balls you clear, its about stopping your man first and foremost.
Title: Club C'ship Draws
Post by: aontroim on March 29, 2007, 11:47:32 PM
County web admins workin late tonigt - c'ship draws are on there already.

SENIOR HURLING

Group 1
Dunloy
Glenariffe
Loughgiel
Lámh Dhearg
St. Gall's

Group 2
Gort na Mona
Rossa
St. John's
Cushendall
Ballycastle

Top 2 teams in each group through to Semi-Finals

INTERMEDIATE HURLING

Group 1
Sarsfield's
St. Teresa's
St. Paul's
Glenravel
Carey Faugh's

Group 2
Cushendun
Gaeil Chluana
Shane O'Neill's
Tír na nÓg

Top 2 teams in each group through to Semi-Finals

JUNIOR HURLING

Group 1
Larne
Rasharkin
Creggan
O Mitchel Og

Group 2
Davitt's
St. Agnes'
Armoy

Group 3
McDermott's
Na Fuiseoige
Ballymena

Group 4
St. Brigid's Cloughmills
St. Enda's
Ardoyne

Top team in each group through to Semi-Finals

U21 HURLING

First Round
1. Loughgiel v St. Brendan's
2. St. Paul's v Rossa
3. St. John's v St. Gall's
4. Gaeil Chluana v Cushendall
5. Dunloy v St. Teresa's
6. Lamh Dhearg v Sarsfield's

Quarter-Finals
5 v 6
3 v Ballycastle
Gort na Mona v 1
2 v 4

MINOR HURLING
Preliminary Round
1. Rossa v St. Gall's
2. Rasharkin v St. Brendan's

First Round
Cushendall v Sarsfield's
2 v Glenshesk
St. Paul's v St. John's
St. Teresa's v 1
Loughgiel v Gort na Mona
Dunloy v Glenariffe
Lamh Dhearg v St. Enda's
Creggan v Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 30, 2007, 07:54:15 AM
Interesting. Who are St Brendans? Group 1 will see Loughgeil & Dunloy through but Glenariffe could be a dark horse. In Group 2 Cushendall will go through followed by Rossa or Ballycastle. Cushendun should cruse the IHC as will St Enda's in the Junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Keyser_Soze on March 30, 2007, 08:52:08 AM
Anyone know what the story is with McDermotts?

Last year they were in Division 2 and the Intermediate Championship.  They didn't finish bottom of Division 2 (St Endas did) but I haven't seen their name in the League fixtures (although I don't think I saw the full list).  It's not that long ago that they won the Junior Championship (~3 years) and now, going by this, they seem to be down again.

I take it all teams just play each other once like last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on March 30, 2007, 08:57:05 AM
QuoteIt's not that long ago that they won the Junior Championship (~3 years) and now, going by this, they seem to be down again.

When did they win it, 2003?  Glenarm won it in 2004, St Teresas in 2005 and Clooney Gaels in 2006.  Who are Gaeil Chluana?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 30, 2007, 09:03:40 AM
"When did they win it, 2003?  Glenarm won it in 2004, St Teresas in 2005 and Clooney Gaels in 2006.  Who are Gaeil Chluana?"

You dont have to be a fluent Irish speaker to work that one out ! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 30, 2007, 09:13:55 AM
tough group two, Cushendall will come through but who else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 30, 2007, 09:24:16 AM
St Brendans are an underage amalgamation of Glenravel, Cushendun and Coughmills.  Good for these kids to be playing at Div 1 level rather than not playing at all.

I can assure you that Cushendun will be far from contenders for the IHC.  They have lost about 8 of the best experienced players from last year..

My tip for the IHC is Randalstwon.  V fit and impressive last year and I believe they have a Clare man at the helm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 30, 2007, 09:44:33 AM
yes played tir na og this year and was impressed. If St Pauls get there act together they will be tough.

tough opener for Gort Na Mona in the senior, i fancy them to come through the league but it will be close, three of four teams will be pushing to win that league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 10:34:22 AM
Pinky kelly a defencer?? you must be mistaken, he has the best strike of a ball in the county if not the country. Last year he did done some damage from centre half. Why not put him there and two quick men at the side herron and joey scullion. Joey should defo be on the team he would die for hurling and has a great hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2007, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 10:34:22 AM
Pinky kelly a defencer??

What is a "defencer" ?  ;) Joey Scullion does not seem to like a bit of physical attention.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on March 30, 2007, 11:09:34 AM
QuoteWhen did they win it, 2003?  Glenarm won it in 2004, St Teresas in 2005 and Clooney Gaels in 2006.  Who are Gaeil Chluana?

McDermott's won the junior championship in 2003, they beat St Gall's in the final. Loughgiel won it in 2004, not Glenarm.

McDermott's don't seem to be entered in the league at all. How can they be allowed to play in the Championship if they don't enter the league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 11:10:24 AM
hehe opps typo. surely are two manager "legendary" managers could instill this in him because he is good enough. what are theyfore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2007, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 11:10:24 AM
hehe opps typo. surely are two manager "legendary" managers could instill this in him because he is good enough. what are theyfore?

Thats not something a manager can give someone, you either have the guts for it or you dont.....I am referring in particular to last years county final......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 11:41:13 AM
unlike syd i wont pretend i was there ;) i heard the shams choked again( long may it continue) However i think that you can get over fear that some of people have, what else is sports psychology therefore??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 30, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 11:41:13 AM
unlike syd i wont pretend i was there ;) i heard the shams choked again( long may it continue) However i think that you can get over fear that some of people have, what else is sports psychology therefore??

Oh i was at it alright and it was about as big a capitulation as i have seen in a while. When things got tight in the 2nd half all Loughguiles big county men vanished.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 11:56:56 AM
I really want to know what the loughgiel managers said in the changing room!! " its yours now just take it easy ", " dont fight for every ball save your energy for the piss up in the pound". the dall managers in comparsion had it easy a simple "are you going to let them do this to you" would have done!! what SHAMbles :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 30, 2007, 12:32:32 PM
just following on from my comment yesterday about the lack of quality forwards..

would it be an idea to play Sean Delargy up front.  I know he has been a revelation since he moved to corner bakc and was top player last year but now that his condidence is back and he is stronger he might make more of an impact back where he started in corner forward?  or am i robbing peter to pay paul?

easier to replace a back than find a good forward.  possiblt neal mc auley could fill in at corner back.

i also think that J Scullion will be a good option for the forwards when he has recovered from injury.

so here's a possible line up:

DD/Ryan
Barney
Mick Mc Cambridge
Neil Mc Auley
Mal Molloy
K Elliot (better in the centre- hasn;t the pace for the wing)
C Herron
J Campbell/D McKillip
K McKeegan
M Herron
Mc manus
J Scullion
Tosh
P Richmond
S Delargy

Subs

Shane Mc N
Mc Falls, Barry and Brian
Nipper
Shiels
Stewart
Donal McNaughton
L Richmond (if he recovers and gets in shape)
Pinky



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 30, 2007, 12:45:38 PM
Podge if I was to move Sean up front you would have to see how he got on at club level first, it would be interesting though.It was his decision making that was affecting him in forwards & the move to corner back has improved his confidence no end. Personally for Cushendall i'd leave him in CB cos his pace gets us out of alot of problems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 01:13:28 PM
Oooo is joey injured?? podge i dont agree with playing mc manus in 11, hes good but has to much to learn at the minute, he was a brilliant minor but isnt ready for senior, espically not at number 11. someone with more expenicence should be there to control play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2007, 01:16:40 PM
milltown, I sent you a PM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 30, 2007, 01:45:05 PM
Diasgree youngfella, McManus was our best forward on Wednesday night. A bit of poor decision making here and there but was very good, good stuck in and showed good skills.

Pinky in my mind is a full back. He may do rightly at centre half forward for Ballycastle but good players can adapt like that for club hurling.
I would have him in full back and move Mickey McC out to half back.

Sean Delargy was a great juvenile forward but you would be robbing peter to play paul to be honest. That infuriates me and has long been a part of Antrim and more specifically as I see it Loughgeil's failure. If a corner forward is playing well, has taken a couple of scores and looks confidents and the centre half forward isn't playing well its often the case up here that the corner forward gets moved out, the centre half hits the road and a new cold corner forward comes in. Now we don't have the luxury yet of having cover in every position but we should not jeopardise some playing well and someone should be brought off the bench to replace the guy not playing well.

My Team for what it is worth:
DD Quinn (would actually have Gareth Magee but there are commitment issues)
Barney
Pinky
Sean Delargy
Mickey McC
Malachy Molloy
Ciaran Herron
Karl
DMcKillop
Michael Herron
McManus
AnOther (I really can't decide this one - would have Aidan Delargy but he's not there)
Tosh
Richmond
Shields

Malachy Molloy is a better wing back but Antrim need to accomodate both him and McCambridge.
The team also goes against what I said about Karl McK being a centre half back.

Joey Scullion maybe does eat, sleep and breath hurling but I disagree about the point that he has pace. If he, as several people have said, doesn't like CLOSE attention then it might be the case he is not ready yet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 30, 2007, 02:08:10 PM
replied theskull ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 02:24:42 PM
pniky cant mark a man, but whens hes fit he is hard to stop in foward and take shot and spread the play about, like last year. As for mc manus he heard he played well against the dubs but was he not invisble against the stronger teams?? He's strong but not expereniced enough.

Job opening antrim senior hurling positon number 11
apply to the the chukle brothers, aka sambo an woody
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2007, 02:33:17 PM
did you milltown? haven't received anything yet 25mins later...can it take that long?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 30, 2007, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 02:24:42 PM
pniky cant mark a man, but whens hes fit he is hard to stop in foward and take shot and spread the play about, like last year. As for mc manus he heard he played well against the dubs but was he not invisble against the stronger teams?? He's strong but not expereniced enough.

Job opening antrim senior hurling positon number 11
apply to the the chukle brothers, aka sambo an woody

Greg O'Kane is still the best number 11 in Antrim by a long shot IMO, I haven't seen anyone comparable for a long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 30, 2007, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 02:24:42 PM
pniky cant mark a man, but whens hes fit he is hard to stop in foward and take shot and spread the play about, like last year.

Pinky cant mark his man, Karl Mc Keegan has been playing CHB for years and not marking his man.........But sure as long as he clears a few balls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 03:05:02 PM
you need to mark your man playing full back or else you may aswell standing on the line with keeper!!! chb is a totally different position. o'kane is a good shout for number 11, who else could fill that role? on the subject of converting backs to forwards could we not try it with a more experience member of the team brave bit of reponsabilty to be placing on mc manus, why not try johnny campbell? before ya get out the diggers think about it he knows the way the squad plays and hes expereniced at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 30, 2007, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 03:05:02 PM
you need to mark your man playing full back or else you may aswell standing on the line with keeper!!! chb is a totally different position.

CHB may be a totally different position but your first job is to stop your man influencing the game, you cant let the man run riot the way Mc Keegan has been prone to doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
we are talking about full back. while of the subject of the back line, allow me to explain the most important thing i have learnt, i can only speak for myself. To be a good back you need to be first to the ball, to be a great back you need to be first to the ball and be able to read the game. karl is a great player antrim best for a long long time the chukle brothers should stop moving him about and form a team around him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 30, 2007, 03:26:19 PM
I have to say i like the way karl plays CHB, i think of the 6 backs its the one position where marking your man isn't the first priority.  To me good positional sense is the key to being a good centre half back.  Gary O'Kane is a fine example of such.  

all the top CHB in the country hold there position and influence the game from there, sure look at the AI final of 2005 alot of KK folk blamed that defeat on Peter Barry (a natural wing back) going with his man out to the wngs and opening gaps of Jerry O'Connor, Tom kenny etc to race through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on March 30, 2007, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 30, 2007, 03:26:19 PM
I have to say i like the way karl plays CHB, i think of the 6 backs its the one position where marking your man isn't the first priority.  To me good positional sense is the key to being a good centre half back.  Gary O'Kane is a fine example of such.  

all the top CHB in the country hold there position and influence the game from there, sure look at the AI final of 2005 alot of KK folk blamed that defeat on Peter Barry (a natural wing back) going with his man out to the wngs and opening gaps of Jerry O'Connor, Tom kenny etc to race through

So as long as you set up some attacks and clear balls to hell with what your man is doing? Interesting viewpoint......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 03:52:59 PM
nice observation max. but didnt kilkenny lose that final because of the cork quick puckouts? and the awareness of there players???

karl is one of the best chb in the country he should be kept in this postion, me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 30, 2007, 04:04:44 PM
You lose a match for a whole host of reasons combined, i said alot of KK folk attributed that loss in good part to the Space in the centre of KK defence caused by Peter Barry instinct to mark.

Alot of people would disagree with me and would encourage the CHB to mark the CHF but in my teams i encourage the CHB to read the game, and get in positions to a, avert the dangerous attacks and b, get in positions to take the bal of other defenders in trouble. 

To ask your CHB to man mark in my opinion takes away alot offensively from a team, obviously there will be plenty of situations in a game where the no11 is the danger and the CHB should mark him.  its judging these situations and making the decisions which sets out the really top CHB. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 04:12:37 PM
which brings use nicely back to the question who should antrim play in chb? karl is the man for the job in my opinion! however its chf and full back that we need to fill, suggestions on a postcard to the cluckle brothers, casement bar, belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2007, 04:29:58 PM
If you get a name for being an early riser, you can lie all day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on March 30, 2007, 05:03:34 PM
so it doesnt really matter what the CHF scores then

and btw i would prefer my CHB to be good under a dropping ball, said player is far from that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 05:08:43 PM
I agree noname CHB has to have a good hand or be able to pull on the ball in the air everytime and the CHF doesnt have to score as allow as he lays the ball of and the other forwards score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2007, 05:35:14 PM
Slan boys, have a good weekend.

abu aontroim keep the faith
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on March 30, 2007, 08:24:48 PM
There was a time not that long ago when Ryan Mc Naughton was playing for Cushendall and Karl was CHB for Antrim but could not get a place in the Cushendall halfback line.....I remember Micky Monty, Figsy and Elliott was their half back line and someone from Cushendall told me they thought that was their best half back line.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: William_Ulsterman on March 31, 2007, 03:58:33 PM
Hurling is just hockey with no rules.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 31, 2007, 04:01:04 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Blacksheep on March 31, 2007, 09:10:30 PM
Why are Antrim the only County with separate Hurling & Football threads? May explain why you are shite at both?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 31, 2007, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: Blacksheep on March 31, 2007, 09:10:30 PM
Why are Antrim the only County with separate Hurling & Football threads? May explain why you are shite at both?

I think we will treat a cocksucker like you with the contempt you deserve.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 12:42:14 PM
Anyone hear if the team has been announced for Limerick game today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on April 01, 2007, 04:25:20 PM
latest 3-09 to 0-04!! a hammering to say the least!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on April 01, 2007, 04:25:20 PM
latest 3-09 to 0-04!! a hammering to say the least!!

3 goals in 1st 10 minutes......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 05:01:37 PM
Limerick 4-17 Antrim 0-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 01, 2007, 05:22:14 PM
Back to square one then.Usual story then, early goals & game over. Think the team was maybe near the same as Dublin match except DD was back in goals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 01, 2007, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 05:01:37 PM
Limerick 4-17 Antrim 0-13

Division 2 here we come and if they keep it as a 9 team Div 1 we wil struggle to get out of Div2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on April 01, 2007, 05:51:01 PM
I would be thinking DD would be getting dropped then!! always thought he was a dodgy keep!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 01, 2007, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on April 01, 2007, 05:51:01 PM
I would be thinking DD would be getting dropped then!! always thought he was a dodgy keep!!

Who would you have in nets then, are all 4 goals attributed to mistakes by DD? Do you know something we dont..... After watching the Dublin match it was much a  case of Dublin being poor as us being good so todays result was no great surprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 01, 2007, 06:22:17 PM
Simply we are not not good enough. Not rocket science either. So it shouldn't be any great surprise but the sooner we get down to hell out of division one the better. Very embarassing to get hamered every week it serves no purpose. Lets look after our own youth system and domestic scene we are very competitive at club level but the lack of teams at County  robs us of more potential talant. Its not going to get better unless we get Unionist parishes to take up the caman which aye don't see happening anytime soon. The Ulster league is a great idea and should be used to its full potential. We need to fulfill competetions and games also having the reserve teams play before senior like it used to be. We need to as a group of Hurling people devise a new system that will make more games for all players. This shite of playing six games a year for a club Hurler isn't worth the full of your arse of roasted snow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 01, 2007, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on April 01, 2007, 06:22:17 PM
Simply we are not not good enough. Not rocket science either. So it shouldn't be any great surprise but the sooner we get down to hell out of division one the better. Very embarassing to get hamered every week it serves no purpose. Lets look after our own youth system and domestic scene we are very competitive at club level but the lack of teams at County  robs us of more potential talant. Its not going to get better unless we get Unionist parishes to take up the caman which aye don't see happening anytime soon. The Ulster league is a great idea and should be used to its full potential. We need to fulfill competetions and games also having the reserve teams play before senior like it used to be. We need to as a group of Hurling people devise a new system that will make more games for all players. This shite of playing six games a year for a club Hurler isn't worth the full of your arse of roasted snow.

I think we all agree about more club matches but as for unionist clubs that is dreamland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 01, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
Thats why I said I don't see that happening anytime soon. I would like to see a seperate board for Hurling and Football. Because right now Hurling is always the poor relation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 01, 2007, 10:26:12 PM
I wonder will Division 2 be "Hollywood" enough for Sambo's ego........?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 02, 2007, 11:11:38 AM
any reports from limerick, i see Dublin got stuffed as well maybe three matches in 8 days was a bit hard on the players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 02, 2007, 11:12:43 AM
Too depressed to even think about the Limerick game.

So moving quickly on, what about CPC's victory in the O'Keefe semis against Athenry!

From the meagre report in the IN, it looked as if they showed a very un-Antrim like ability to keep plugging away and come from behind at the last minute. Anybody at the match?

Fair play to them and their mentors - Joe Cassidy (Derry footballer) and Oran Kearney (Linfield soccer player)!

Any idea when the final is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2007, 12:28:27 PM
milltown....you still haven't replied to the PM I sent to you???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 02, 2007, 02:54:08 PM
Im just wondering did Terry & Woody "change mindsets" this year? that seemed to be their mantra.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2007, 03:20:15 PM
Syd lay off Terry and Woody. The county could do without boys like you! You'll be the first boy looking for tickets to the All-Ireland when they get there in a few years!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 02, 2007, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2007, 03:20:15 PM
Syd lay off Terry and Woody. The county could do without boys like you! You'll be the first boy looking for tickets to the All-Ireland when they get there in a few years!!!

I dont think the camogie final usually sells out so should be no problem with tickets  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2007, 04:27:27 PM
I think Div. 2 mightn't be a bad place for Antrim to be in next year. It might encourage a bit more competitiveness with other counties around the same level in the pecking order as I honestly don't think they go out to play the big guns with the same heart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on April 02, 2007, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2007, 04:27:27 PM
I think Div. 2 mightn't be a bad place for Antrim to be in next year. It might encourage a bit more competitiveness with other counties around the same level in the pecking order as I honestly don't think they go out to play the big guns with the same heart.

Div 2 is certainlyour level. We have been either getting relegated or promoted since the year dot. We have suffered from delusions of grandeur for too long,we are nowhere near good enough. Maybe our players/management should spout off less in the paper about winning All Irelands within the next 3/4 yrs and take a reality check.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 02, 2007, 09:54:57 PM
Well done to CPC a much needed bright spot for Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 03, 2007, 08:57:25 AM
sorry Skull1 thought i had, i'm not a wizard on this yet!!!!

off work yesterday will send it later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2007, 11:55:29 AM
cheers milltown ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 03, 2007, 01:01:46 PM
Skull & Milltown.........Get a room
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Vlad The Impaler on April 05, 2007, 09:33:56 PM
I believe Sambo & Woody had the players out for a few pints the night before the Limerick match, would this come under the umbrella of "changing mindsets" & "cutting edge training techniques" that they were bringing to the setup this year. Excellent preparation for the most important match of the year.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 06, 2007, 02:58:12 AM
Under the new format with the current back door system, back in 1989 Antrim would not have made it to an All-Ireland. They would have had to play a Semifinal before advancing to the final. We get dilusioned a lot by that single event when we got to the final that we think we are better than we really are. What I would like to see is more concentration on our club scene and bring enjoyment back to the game the way it used to be. Hurling should be played every Sunday in the Summer. Warmer weather means more attractive and entertaining Hurling less injuries as well. It brings people out to see matches. The curent system has failed Antrim Hurling and people. Those in charge want to draw up new structures before the damage is irrapairable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 06, 2007, 09:15:21 AM
St John's (finally) won their appeal against explusion from the Feile. It had to go all the way to Croke Park and the whole Feile festival was at risk. Apparently the Feile organising committee thought they were independent of the GAA and could apply their own rules regardless of GAA policy. They also appear to think they are above the law of the land in the Free State.
Pity it was all handled so poorly. Feile is a fantastic festival of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on April 06, 2007, 10:06:18 AM
what happened giuillem??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 06, 2007, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: Vlad The Impaler on April 05, 2007, 09:33:56 PM
I believe Sambo & Woody had the players out for a few pints the night before the Limerick match, would this come under the umbrella of "changing mindsets" & "cutting edge training techniques" that they were bringing to the setup this year. Excellent preparation for the most important match of the year.......

I thought this kind of evil behaviour only happened during Jingos reign,they would have got beaten had they not had a drink for the last 4 yrs but it is poor preparation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 07, 2007, 07:38:26 AM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on April 06, 2007, 10:06:18 AM
what happened giuillem??

There's a whole thread on it on the old board. I don't know how to post a link but here's my post on the subject from last year:

Guillem2
Registered User
Posts: 309
(1/11/06 15:43)
Reply  St. John's, Belfast, banned from Feile for next 2 years
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From Hoganstand

St. John's kids banned from Feile
01 November 2006

Antrim club, St John's have been told that they have been banned from participating in the All-Ireland Feile hurling competition for the next two years because they stayed in a hotel during this year's tournament.

St John's won the Feile in Cork, but were found guilty of breaching Feile rules by not staying with parents of their designated club, which was Bandon.

However, club delegate Tony McNulty has stressed that the Bandon club could not give assurances as to where the kids would be staying and felt they had no other option but to book into the hotel.

"The Bandon club was struggling and we couldn't tell the parents where their kids would be staying," said McNulty. "We couldn't give them names and addresses. We have a strong child welfare policy in the club.

"I don't think you can penalize children by banning them from a competition they have not been involved in. We are very much annoyed by this."

This seems very harsh on the young lads playing u13 & u12 this year. Surely another punishment could have been imposed. I'm no fan of the Johnnies but they have put in tremendous work at u12/u14 in recent years and this could set them back. Its hard to see how this helps promot hurling in Ulster 
Child protection is a big issue when you're in charge of 25 kids in this age group. You can't just sent them of to Cork and not tell parents who they are staying with.
I hope sense prevails and this is looked at again. Perhaps a fine. The Johnnies have plenty of cash!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on April 07, 2007, 11:49:48 AM
Thanks God this was all settled at last.

Guillem
Do they automatically qualify for this years Feile? if so will they be be going to families or a hotel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 10, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
this topic has died a death !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 10, 2007, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 10, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
this topic has died a death !

What topic can we indulge you with youngfella??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 10, 2007, 03:07:50 PM
was there any club hurling on over the weekend??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 10, 2007, 03:37:25 PM
The ulster hurling league  round 2 is on this saturday. All county football on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 16, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Judging by the match I seen at the weekend between Glenariff and Loughguile it seems the shams will be playing the dirty card this season. Must be trying to win back some 'pride' after their gutless performance in the final last year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 16, 2007, 07:16:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
how are loughgiel shaping up this year so far?  i see they along with dunloy have popular past players in charge of the teams. dunloy could be a team to watch out for. a succesful team of john delargy & james mcnaughton back again along with gazza in at cushendall. will keep things fresh but with being joint managers there could be conflict later in the yea when it gets to picking championship teams

any thoughts?
Who is in charge at Dunloy this year? Also what happened skinner at C, Dall I thought he was their trump card for the last two years. C, Dall are not that far ahead of the rest they may regret the loss of skinner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on April 16, 2007, 07:54:11 PM
Think the lad Cassidy (Cross & Passion teacher) is helping out in Loughguile this year. Not sure what is role is or what he offers. I think this year will be the tighest for a long time with a number of teams in the mix
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 11:42:46 AM
Loughgeil/Ballycastle
Cassidy is the fitness trainer for Loughgeil I believe - not sure if he can help them with the psychological element of things where they have been lacking for the last few years.
Not one to normally talk about such rumours/crap but heard that certain people in Ballycastle weren't too happy with Cassidy taking up this post with the bodies. What a joke. If Loughgeil approached him first and wanted to tap into something good (he and yer man Kearney have clearly had a great effect on Cross and Passion) then good on them. Ballycastle can have no gripe with the man after this work with C&P and then him taking them pretty far in the junior football Cship last year (and also defending their corner with the controversy surrounding it).

As regards the comments that Loughgeil may be fresher than other teams due to lack of county involvement - arguably Winker/w**ker(your choice) is the only one who would have been on the panel. Johnny C and Barney will be on there to the death and will probably both start on our assault on the All Ireland this year.

Dunloy
Gary O'Kane is the third past player involved.

Cushendall
Personally think its the right time to freshen things up. After a long hard slog reaching the all ireland semi a change is as good as a rest, though they have had one of those as well. That Skinner gets to spend more time with the family is a bonus.
Am not sure whether I share the opinion that Skinner is a tactical genius that has been expresssed on this board before. An astute passionate manager indeed but as the Loughgeil final last year is probably seen as his crowning glory - Cushendall couldn't have played much worse in the first half, Loughgeil completely choked and targetting certain players with a bit of the hard stuff isn't groundbreaking.
Nonetheless the man deserved alot of credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 17, 2007, 12:59:12 PM
Regarding this year's championship I think it could be very interesting. I definately wouldn't write off Dunloy as I reckon with Pappy, Mushy & Shane they will have alot of respect from the players(alot of championship medals there). In the semi -final in B/castle last year we were lucky enough to get a couple of goals from mistakes near the end of the first half to put a maybe unfair reflection on the scoreline. If they get a fully fit team, they'll challenge again.

re Loughgiel..I see they have decided with their new set up to go for a more physcial approach, but do they have that type of player to go down that route, but I can understand why the management want to toughen them up..mentally probably even more so

Ballycastle..training like mad as they tend to do at this stage but come championship time just dont have good enough players(especially forwards)

Re the reigning champs Cushendall...alot will depend on their hunger this year. They have the best defence in the county & if they can develop their forwards they'll be hard to stop again. Micky Monty will be a huge plus as he'll now be fully fit & can play in a number of positions. Skinner just didnt want the job again, you cant really blame him as he has been in it for 3 years, it's alot of work & he has left us in a better place than where he found us.

What of St Johns..maybe Rossa if they got their act together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on April 17, 2007, 01:08:03 PM
Aye typial ballycastle, hes a Derry lad i thin. He wudnt have anything to do with the town other than work there. Personally think Dunloy are past it and it wil take them 3/4 years to build another team fit to really challenge at the top.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 01:42:38 PM
Disagree North Antrim...he does have a fair bit to do with the town. He is married to a girl from there I believe and lives there. Also trained the footballers and obviously C&P.
Have seen him out and about in the Town as well.
But still no right for Ballycastle to have gripes about it.

Not sure what age you are North Antrim but how can you say Joe Cassidy "is a Derry lad I think". The man played for Derry for a number of years, admittedly not in their most successful period, but he should be and is a well known name.

Not sure who for Dunloy is past it to be honest - they might just have the blend of experience and youth that is needed though arguably Cushendall and to a lesser extent Loughgeil have that as well.


Will Bell be hurling for Rossa with the football commitments?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 17, 2007, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 01:42:38 PM
Disagree North Antrim...he does have a fair bit to do with the town. He is married to a girl from there I believe and lives there. Also trained the footballers and obviously C&P.
Have seen him out and about in the Town as well.
But still no right for Ballycastle to have gripes about it.

Not sure what age you are North Antrim but how can you say Joe Cassidy "is a Derry lad I think". The man played for Derry for a number of years, admittedly not in their most successful period, but he should be and is a well known name.

Not sure who for Dunloy is past it to be honest - they might just have the blend of experience and youth that is needed though arguably Cushendall and to a lesser extent Loughgeil have that as well.


Will Bell be hurling for Rossa with the football commitments?


Are Dick O'Kane, Ally Eliott & Patch still hurling for Dunloy?? Ally still dangerous but obviously doesnt have the pace he used to. They still have the backbone for a very strong team. Paul Shields & Darren Quinn never hurled against us in the semi-final...both are quick & good hurlers.

Bell will be hurling for Rossa..Antrim will be long gone in the football before hurling really kicks off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 03:11:48 PM
You are right Colonel...I forgot about the Scullions.

Ruairi Og - I think those 3 are still hurling for Dunloy. Wouldn't put those three as either past their sell by date at all or even players who would stay past their sell by date.
ALL class acts.

Paul Shields would be more useful than Darren Quinn in my book but I believe the latter is only getting back to full capacity after being out injured for a while. Good to see it if so as he always had the talent.


Skull - are you of the opinion that the same thing happened to Darren Quinn that you fear will happen to Paul Shields? He was lining out for the senior Antrim squad under Dinny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2007, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 03:11:48 PM
Skull - are you of the opinion that the same thing happened to Darren Quinn that you fear will happen to Paul Shields? He was lining out for the senior Antrim squad under Dinny.

For different reasons glensman but yes.....
Well Darren sat on the bench for most of the time under Dinny and never took the advice to go back to his club and cut his teeth playing for them. He was never senior county material at that time. This along with a car accident last year have hampered his development. But he's a hard working lad who if he takes the right advice from the new management, should become a real threat up front for us. Still work to do though. I hope he's up for it. Shorty is slightly different. He has all the tools in the tool box, but he is far too light of frame to be up to the rigors of intercounty training IMO. The poor fella looks as if he is ready to collapse with tiredness any time I watch him play. He needs to be given the right time to develop. Time which S&W are not giving him. For example against Dublin they played him in a sweeping role between the 3/4 and 1/2 back lines. Played him the full game in this lung busting role know that he was captaining st louis in a schools cup soccer match the next day. S&W do not have shorties best interests in mind IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 17, 2007, 04:47:38 PM
Skull agree with you about Shorty looking really tired, see him in the Darragh Cup Final in Cushendall on Easter Monday, looked really tired, he just seemed to lack any sharpness & zip in his play which would possibly come from overtraining. At his age he hasnt played much club hurling for Dunloy seniors & should concentrate on that. He must have A-levels??(added pressure) to do as well as play for Antrim/Dunloy & soccer too, he'll be burnt out.  He's too good a talent to be treated incorrectly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
Given that S&W (like this better than Terry and Woody - have never heard Sambo been called Terry before it appeared on this board) are more than likely to persist with Shields (and McManus) playing is it not upon the management of Dunloy to take a wise step and give him a bit of a break.
The three men in charge will certainly see him if he is jaded.
A few weeks off for the A levels at least?!

He won't want it, he'll want to play every game possible for them, but might be the call for three senior heads to leave him out of as many matches/trainings as they possibly can - I know he didn't start v Ballycastle.

What a joke it is to be saying to a young fella to rest him from club hurling but it may be the answer?? He was supposed to be kicking football this year as well - is that the case?

Good luck to Darren Quinn as well. Coming from a position of having to prove himself again might be exactly where he needs to come from.

I agree about Micko Herron as well - his performance at centre half back when they ran (Wexford??) close that day in Parnell Park was as good a performance from a minor as I have seen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 17, 2007, 10:44:17 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 05:52:29 PM
Given that S&W (like this better than Terry and Woody - have never heard Sambo been called Terry before it appeared on this board)

Do you think he was christened "Sambo"? For me he will always be Terry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 18, 2007, 11:11:52 AM
Do you think he was Christened "Terry"?

You can call him what you want Syd. You sound like you had some romantic involvement with him - "For me he will always be..."


Best banner ever seen at a GAA match (could be a new thread) when Sambo/Terry/Syd's lover himself was working for Guinness :
"Guinness for pints, Sambo for points"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 18, 2007, 11:37:11 AM
QuoteDo you think he was Christened "Terry"?

people in cushendall call him sambo or terrence (what he was christened). i have never heard him being called terry
Quote

There is a world outside Cushendall, in his book he reckons he got a bullet sent to him with "Terry" inscribed on it and anyway Sambo is a racist nickname....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 11:39:31 AM
[and anyway Sambo is a racist nickname....

So what will we call Darkie McIllhatton then next time he jumps the wire :)

answers on a postcard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 11:39:31 AM
[and anyway Sambo is a racist nickname....

So what will we call Darkie McIllhatton then next time he jumps the wire :)

answers on a postcard

Aye but Darkie hasnt"copyrighted" his name to the same degree as Terry and there are a few blacks playing hurling, i just hope it does not put them off.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 18, 2007, 11:53:54 AM
Quote[and anyway Sambo is a racist nickname....

i think that if they don't want to be called a nickname they would say however he has made it a marketing tool- e.g sambos hurls and his pub says proprioter t sambo mc naughton.

and you would be game to call darkie anything.

The issue is not if he likes being called it, its just its very racist, especially now our country is so multicultural......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
count me out of this little chat...the political correctness is making me sick

please tell me its a send up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 18, 2007, 12:29:50 PM
Aye can we concentrate on Hurling rather than what we call our managers(they have been called worse at present  :). Next you'll know we'll not be able to call Sambo's co manager Woody cos Disney have copyrighted it from Buzz Lightyear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
count me out of this little chat...the political correctness is making me sick

please tell me its a send up

;)  ;) Hook line & sinker.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
count me out of this little chat...the political correctness is making me sick

please tell me its a send up

;)  ;) Hook line & sinker.......
A retrospective wind up me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
count me out of this little chat...the political correctness is making me sick

please tell me its a send up

;)  ;) Hook line & sinker.......
A retrospective wind up me thinks

Not at all, i didnt think i would get any mileage out of it but "Colonel" took it and ran !!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 18, 2007, 03:40:51 PM
must be mad craic down the pub with you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 18, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 18, 2007, 03:40:51 PM
must be mad craic down the pub with you!

You have no idea, my favourite bar is "Jumbo's" in North Antrim......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: William_Ulsterman on April 18, 2007, 07:01:09 PM
Whats all this about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 19, 2007, 12:46:33 AM
Tonights results:

Wednesday 18th April 2007
Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Gort Na Mona  0-11 0-7 Armoy
Carey Faughs  2-13 3-9 Tir na Nog 
Gaeil Chluana  1-20 3-8 Rasharkin

Antrim Division 3 Hurling

Davitts  1-6  3-4  St. Agnes
Ardoyne  3-9  1-0  Na fuiseoig 
St. Pauls IIs 0-10  2-14 Ballymena
Bredagh lost at home to Cloughmills
 
Antrim U21 Football Championship

St. Teresas  0-10 1-8 Glenravel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Keyser_Soze on April 19, 2007, 09:09:20 AM
Anybody at any of the games last night?

Clooney Gaels made awful hard work of it against a poor enough Rasharkin side who I would imagine will struggle big-time in Division 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on April 19, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Rasharkin will come straight down again, they will struggle to win a game.  Gorts, tir na nog, carey and cushendun?? will be the teams to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 19, 2007, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Rasharkin will come straight down again, they will struggle to win a game.  Gorts, tir na nog, carey and cushendun?? will be the teams to beat.

What about Armoy, i see they gave Strabane a tanking in Ulster League, in fairness Strabane have lost some top class players to transfers lately  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2007, 11:43:29 AM
Who are Na fuiseoig?

Armoy ran the gorts a lot closer than I would have expected them to.

Ahoghill should still have a lot of fitness in there from their all ireland campaign so maybe a bit early to say rasharkin to go straight back down just yet. There's an imbalance in that division 2 though - the strong teams are actually decent(ish) hurling teams while the bottoms teams are actually quite poor. I think the divisions are split well enough though so I suppose not much can be done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2007, 12:32:45 PM
Na Fuiseog (The Lark) are based in Twinbrook I think. Better at joy-riding than hurling I'd wager...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on April 19, 2007, 02:14:07 PM
QuoteWhat about Armoy, i see they gave Strabane a tanking in Ulster League, in fairness Strabane have lost some top class players to transfers lately

Lol, Aye Armoy beat them well, but apart from stars like Big JM leaving there was only about 6 starting from last years side.  So is Lavey and KL's both out of the league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 19, 2007, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 19, 2007, 02:14:07 PM
QuoteWhat about Armoy, i see they gave Strabane a tanking in Ulster League, in fairness Strabane have lost some top class players to transfers lately

Lol, Aye Armoy beat them well, but apart from stars like Big JM leaving there was only about 6 starting from last years side.  So is Lavey and KL's both out of the league?

They have, there isnt enough rioting or assaulting refs at the matches for the Derry boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 19, 2007, 02:27:30 PM
Are Na fuiseoig not Larne? I could very well be wrong here.
Hopefully not another team from Twinbrook...scary enough having to go there to play Davitts.


Bredagh did lose at home to Cloughmills in Div 3 as stated earlier - the match was only played due to a magnanimous gesture from St Malachy's who were training on a double booked pitch in Cherryvale.
I have heard that due to long standing politics between Bredagh and St Malachy's they initially weren't going to let Bredagh on the field to play a match (rather let the two teams, Bredagh and Cloughmills, stand fully stripped and watch them train!) but saw sense and very kindly moved their training to behind one of the pitches.
Gestures like that, although the sensible thing to do, aren't too common when club rivalry gets involved in Antrim.
Sounds like from what I have heard about last night that St Malachy's have some decent people behind them. Hopefully the favour can be returned by Bredagh.

Look at me getting all romantic about nice gestures and all...maybe one of the big southern teams from down south could magnanimously (word of the day) let us win a game against them this summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 19, 2007, 03:32:24 PM
Larne are Laharna Og I think. Na Fuiseoig are Twinbrook - certainly Belfasties anyway.

Any past (even present) CPC boys here going to the O'Keeffe final on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on April 19, 2007, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 19, 2007, 03:32:24 PM
Larne are Laharna Og I think. Na Fuiseoig are Twinbrook - certainly Belfasties anyway.

Larne are indeed Latharna Og. Na Fuiseoig (or Bobby Sands GAC, basically) are another Twinbrook-based crowd who entered the hurling League last year to go along with Davitt's and Mitchel's (or O'Mitchel Og as they operate now in hurling - O'Donnell's/Mitchels'/Eire Og) a stupid name but they beat us (Larne) last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2007, 12:14:25 PM
Na Fuiseoig are a side made up of boys who had previously played hurling with different clubs down the years. basically old men with very limited ability. to be honest i cant see them lasting very long. and yes they do play thier home games at twinbrook!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 23, 2007, 08:06:54 AM
Division 2 result from yesterday: Glenarm  1-18 0-5 Cushendun. Big win for Glenarm. Were Cushendun missing a few?

Cross & Passion lost the Colleges B final to the school from wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 23, 2007, 08:20:28 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on April 23, 2007, 08:06:54 AM
Division 2 result from yesterday: Glenarm  1-18 0-5 Cushendun. Big win for Glenarm. Were Cushendun missing a few?

Cross & Passion lost the Colleges B final to the school from wexford.

Its not as big a result as you may think, the nucleus of the Cushendun team that was in Div 1 for so many years have all retired this year and they dont really have any young players coming through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 23, 2007, 02:00:34 PM
Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Rossa v Sarsfields  @ Rossa 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Duffy Garrett 
St. Johns v Lamh Dhearg  @St. Johns 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Torney Hugh 
St. Galls v Ballygalget  @ St. Galls 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Elliott Owen 
Cushendall v  Ballycastle  @ Cushendall 26/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Matthews Ray 
Dunloy v Glenariff  @ Dunloy 29/04/2007 15:00 Ref: Traynor Francis 
Ballycastle v Loughgiel Shamrocks  @ Ballycastle 29/04/2007 15:00 Ref: Robinson Gerard 
Portaferry v Ballycran  @ Portaferry 29/04/2007 15:00 Ref: McHugh Eugene 
Cushendall v Ballygalget  @ Cushendall 29/04/2007 15:00 Ref: McIntyre Tommy 

Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Cushendall v Ballycastle @ Cushendall 24/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Thomas Mc Gilligan 
Ballycastle  v Loughgiel Shamrocks @  Ballycastle 29/04/2007 13:30 Ref: Graham Harry 
Portaferry v Ballycran @ Portaferry 29/04/2007 13:30 Ref: Compston Joe 
Cushendall v Ballygalget @ Cushendall 29/04/2007 13:30 Ref: Mitchell Willie 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Shane O Neills v Rasharkin @ Shane ONeills 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Donnolly Liam 
Tir na Nog v Gaeil Chluana @ Tir na Nog 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: McCafferty Pat 
Cushendun v Glenravel @ Cushendun 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: McHenry John 
Armoy v Carey Faughs @ Armoy 29/04/2007 15:00 Ref: O Connell Mick 

Antrim Division 3 Hurling  
Ardoyne v St. Pauls 2 @ Mallusk 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Carroll Gerry 
Davitts v  Na fuiseoig @ Twinbrook 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Reilly Terry 
St. Endas v St. Agnes @ St. Endas 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Quinn Liam 
Creggan Gaels v Sarsfields 2 @ Creggan Gaels 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Watson Damien 
O Mitchel Og v St. Teresas @ St. Teresas 25/04/2007 19:00 Ref: Goodman Noel 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on April 23, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on April 23, 2007, 08:06:54 AM
Division 2 result from yesterday: Glenarm  1-18 0-5 Cushendun. Big win for Glenarm. Were Cushendun missing a few?

Cross & Passion lost the Colleges B final to the school from wexford.

by many? wat score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2007, 05:04:53 PM
CPC were beaten by 6 points but not sure of the score as haven't seen any reports yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 23, 2007, 05:37:04 PM
CPC lost 1-11 to 8 points.

I got there late and left early - despite being only two points down at half time (having missed at least three scorable frees) and having played into a strong enough breeze in the first half, CPC never really imposed themselves in the second. A goal from a penalty half way through the second half was the ending of the contest.

CPC certainly didn't disgrace themselves but the Wexford team were always that bit better. Read in the IN today that CPC had a large number of youngsters on the team (including a couple of under 14s). That goes some way to explaining yesterday - CPC had a number of quite small, slight fellas on the team while Bunclody were big enough throughout.

Bunclody made much better use of the ball e.g. looking up to try to deliver a good ball to a team mate, while CPC's backs tended simply to try clear the ball any which way. A number of clearances fell into a totally unmarked Bunclody players who popped it back over the bar.

That said, fair play to CPC for getting so far, particularly given their (relatively) small pick at the age level.

Mind you, had a look at the "A" final on tv before heading to the game - there was some difference in standard! Some of that could be put down to the pitch at Fingallians , which wasn't great for hurling, but I think the Ulster "A" champions shoulod stay at "B" level in the All Ireland series for a while yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 24, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
Cloot...you arrived late & left early...was that so you didnt have to pay in you miserable hoor & then you could beat the traffic after ???

Aye unlucky to C+P, good achievement to get there just maybe a couple of players short(hence the U14'S)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 24, 2007, 01:12:21 PM
Ten euros it cost me to gain admittance my exiled friend - was late because I had some difficulty locating fingallians grounds. Mind you, you're spot on about the reason for the early exit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 25, 2007, 02:13:37 PM
not much talk lads about the first round of league games. we play Ballygalget tonight first point is why at 7 pm madness asking them to come to our pitch for that time. think this game will be close we drew with them last year in a game we should have won, lost won then nearly lost. we are trying to generate a good buzz in the hurling squad at the minute soo a good league campaign is what's needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2007, 09:07:20 AM
We beat St Galls last night, 2-14 to 1-10.

Didn't make it over to the game, Milltown were you at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 26, 2007, 09:59:54 AM
Yes, came on late. The game was level at half time and your lads came out and scored a goal and a point without reply heads dropped and took us a bit to get back in, got a goal with 8 min to go then started chasing more goals. Clarke was outstanding in nets and your two midfielders were very fit plenty of running, Mc Grattan came on after ten mins as you missed some frees, didn't miss too many after wards. Full blown game with a lot of hard tackles we are missing a some and for games like that we need to have all are big players on board. Good exercise but our lads are disappointed at dropping points.

Still, impressed with Ballygalget and having played Portaferry this year I'd say they are a lot better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 26, 2007, 10:20:47 AM
Wednesday 25th April 2007
Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Rossa  0-17 1-6 Sarsfields 
St. Galls  1-10 2-14 Ballygalget 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Shane O Neills  5-14 1-8 Rasharkin   
Tir na Nog  1-11 1-14 Gaeil Chluana
Cushendun  3-8 0-11 Glenravel

Antrim Division 3 Hurling

Ardoyne  3-11 2-14 St. Pauls 2 
Davitts  3-11 0-0 Na fuiseoig   
St. Endas  2-7 1-6 St. Agnes   
Creggan Gaels  7-13 2-5 Sarsfields 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 26, 2007, 12:14:46 PM
Milltown, I agree with you regarding throw in times, we played Ballygalget during the week a couple of years ago at home, really tough for Ballygalget boys to make it down to Cushendall after work...they beat us by a point though  :-[


Cushendall at home to Ballycastle tonight, should be tough match as we have a few injuries, & a couple out of the country at the minute. Appartantly Neil McManus out for 6 weeks with a back injury he suffered as a 16 year old due til too much Hurling. Same debate as Paul Shields a few weeks ago possibly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2007, 03:53:47 PM
i heard neal mcauley and hippy donnelly had something simlar a wild back. its the burnout. young fellas doing 2 much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 26, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 26, 2007, 03:53:47 PM
i heard neal mcauley and hippy donnelly had something simlar a wild back. its the burnout. young fellas doing 2 much.

You should be safe enough from burnout......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2007, 04:10:01 PM
aye i would be posting from the côte d'Azur. wat a brilliant day! wheres tonight game beiong played at ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2007, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on April 26, 2007, 12:14:46 PM

Cushendall at home to Ballycastle tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 27, 2007, 10:56:51 AM
Cushendall & Ballycastle drew 1-14 all last night. Conor McCambridge scored with a free in last poc of the game to get draw. The free was actually brought forward to make it easier due to some talking back from Ballycastle players(I think). Fair enough result I would reckon, both teams missed alot of easy chances but some good scores taken. Not very exciting match only sparked to life in last 5-10 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2007, 12:56:22 PM
why was this game played last night? i thought the north antrim teams wanted Sunday games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 27, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
Match was played last nite because it was meant to be on Sunday but was postponed due to Cross & Passion's All Ireland final. Your right though in that the North Antrim teams wanting a return to Sunday matches, senior & senior reserves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2007, 02:47:14 PM
What kind of team had Cushendall out?

Were they missing many?

Any new young boys to watch out for? That brick fella on the senior team yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 27, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
Not bad,but were missing Odhran Scullion, Kevin Elliott, Neil McManus, Declan McKillop, Shane McNaughton & Eunan McKillop..6 players who started the county final

Brick wasnt playing, at county minor training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 29, 2007, 01:11:29 AM
Must say it is encouraging to see Ballycastle claw their way back to  competitiveness, in  Antrim Hurling. Would love to see a new name on the volunteer cup this year. Cushendall and Dunloy have been so dominant for the last fifteen years that it is almost "unhealthy"  for the local game.  I have a feeling that the Antrim Championship this year could spring a few surprises. Lets hope the rest of the clubs can step up and make life difficult for Dunloy and Cushendall. Albeit easier said than done.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 29, 2007, 08:08:56 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on April 29, 2007, 01:11:29 AM
Must say it is encouraging to see Ballycastle claw their way back to  competitiveness, in  Antrim Hurling. Would love to see a new name on the volunteer cup this year. Cushendall and Dunloy have been so dominant for the last fifteen years that it is almost "unhealthy"  for the local game.  I have a feeling that the Antrim Championship this year could spring a few surprises. Lets hope the rest of the clubs can step up and make life difficult for Dunloy and Cushendall. Albeit easier said than done.



Rossa did 3 years ago but they won't this year. Loughgiel haven't the balls and Ballycastle won't be ready for a another couple of years. It has to be Cushendall again to make it 3 in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on April 29, 2007, 10:08:03 AM
I dont think the Dall will win it this year. I will tell you the my reasons:

1. Firstly one of the main ingrediants to winning is hunger, and after winning the last 2 and last years long campaign i think that when the hips are down cdall wont have the same real hunger.

2. You need good management and i think cdall have lost one and noot gained a good win

3. I feel Dunloy or Shamrocks will win it this year with some of the lesser knowns i.e St Johns, Galls, BCastle causing an odd shock.

4. I honestly believe that if the shamsrocks dont win it this year they wil never win it...and with them having few county players this year and all the critics they will sneak home in early October :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 30, 2007, 09:29:03 AM
Hurling fixtures.

Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Lamh Dhearg v St. Galls @ Lamh Dhearg 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Tommy McIntyre 
Glenariff v St. Johns @ Glenariff 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: John McHenry 
Sarsfields v Portaferry @ Sarfields 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Gerard Robinson 
Glenariff v Portaferry @ Glenariff 06/05/2007 15:00 Ref: Owen Elliott ReFix May
Ballygalget v Ballycastle @  Ballygalget 06/05/2007 15:00 Ref: Hugh Torney 
Ballycran v Dunloy @ Ballycran 06/05/2007 15:00 Ref: Ray Matthews 
Loughgiel Shamrocks v Cushendall @  Loughgiel 06/05/2007 15:00 Ref: Garrett Duffy 

Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Ballygalget v Ballycastle @ Ballygalget 06/05/2007 13:30 Ref:  Damian Caughey 
Ballycran v Dunloy @ Ballycran 06/05/2007 13:30 Ref:  Liam Quinn 
Loughgiel Shamrocks v Cushendall  @ Loughgiel 06/05/2007 13:30 Ref: John Mc Veigh 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Glenravel v Shane O Neills @ Glenravel 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Colm Cunning 
Carey Faughs v St. Pauls @ Carey Faughs 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Francis Traynor 
Gaeil Chluana v Armoy @ Ahoghill 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Eugene McHugh 
Rasharkin v Tir na Nog @  Rasharkin 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Ray Matthews 

Antrim Division 3 Hurling

St. Agnes v Creggan Gaels @ St. Agnes 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Paul McIlhatton 
Ballymena v  St. Teresas @ Ballymena 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Liam McAuley 
Cloughmills  v St. Endas @ Cloughmills 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Owen Elliott 
Sarsfields 2 v O Mitchel Og @ Woodlands 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Sean Murray 
Ardoyne v Larne @ Mallusk 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref:  Danny O Neill 
St. Pauls 2 v  Na fuiseoig @  St. Pauls 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Brendan Mc Sparran 
Bredagh v Davitts @ Cherryvale 02/05/2007 19:15 Ref: Terence Wells
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 30, 2007, 09:59:58 AM
Ballycastle    2-6   3-7   Loughgiel Shamrocks    Ballycastle   
Portaferry    1-11   0-13   Ballycran    Portaferry   
Cushendall    3-11   2-14   Ballygalget    Cushendall


Yesterdays results from the Antrim GAA website which is refreshingly up to date. Well done to those involved.

On another note was the no other senior fixtures because most of the other clubs would of been playing football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2007, 10:02:58 AM
Played glenariff yesterday in Dunloy 3-20 to 2-9. Won easy enough in the end but made it more difficult for ourselves than it should have been, but in fairness Johnny Tosh is a great target man and he kept the game alive for them. Would love to know what the Glenariff players & mentors think their tactics are going to get them this year? Some brutal challenges made yesterday by them all over the field. Always on the lookout for the dirty slap instead of the ball. Could any glenariff contributors on here (not sure if I know of any :-\) defend how youse went about it yesterday?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Truth on April 30, 2007, 10:38:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 30, 2007, 10:02:58 AM
Played glenariff yesterday in Dunloy 3-20 to 2-9. Won easy enough in the end but made it more difficult for ourselves than it should have been, but in fairness Johnny Tosh is a great target man and he kept the game alive for them. Would love to know what the Glenariff players & mentors think their tactics are going to get them this year? Some brutal challenges made yesterday by them all over the field. Always on the lookout for the dirty slap instead of the ball. Could any glenariff contributors on here (not sure if I know of any :-\) defend how youse went about it yesterday?

Skull i think you are exaggerating a bit. There was one very bad challenge from Connor McAllister on Shorty i think that should have been a straight red. Seamy Docs 2 yellows were stupid and you could see the 2nd yellow coming a mile away when he got his first. But to say it was like that the whole game is pushing it a bit, i was talking to some of our fellas after the match and they said the Dunloy boys were giving it out but were yapping when they got it back. But in fairness Dunloy looked sharp and could be hard to beat this year. I think the refs lack of control over the game did not help matters either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on April 30, 2007, 11:36:27 AM
Well Cushendall out of jail again yesterday with a last minute goal from Brian Delargy to draw level..an really great goal too, dont think you'll see a better goal all year. Magic Johnston had put Ballygalget ahead just previously with a goal.Magic was on top form all day yesterday, very hard to work with.With us coming back to scrape draws twice in four days to get a draw..maybe the hunger is ok?? But we'll wait til September/October time to find that out??

Johnny Cool..ur a galgets man, were you at the matches yesterday??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2007, 12:11:06 PM
Keep your head in the sand why don't you Truth. Your lads do not know the difference between hard hurling and dirty hurling and with the mentors on the line encouraging it then its easy to see why youse know no different. I don't think Dunloy are the only team to have seen this behaviour this year? Are youse not becoming a bit of a common denominator and the season has only started. Feel free to ignore everything I said 

I agree with your comment about the ref btw.

Just so I'm not exaggerating I'll change "Always on the lookout.... " with "Too often on the lookout for the dirty slap" from my previous post. Apart from that I think I'm on the money. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 30, 2007, 12:15:06 PM
Were there Div 1 Reserve matches played yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 30, 2007, 12:24:44 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on April 30, 2007, 11:36:27 AM
Well Cushendall out of jail again yesterday with a last minute goal from Brian Delargy to draw level..an really great goal too, dont think you'll see a better goal all year. Magic Johnston had put Ballygalget ahead just previously with a goal.Magic was on top form all day yesterday, very hard to work with.With us coming back to scrape draws twice in four days to get a draw..maybe the hunger is ok?? But we'll wait til September/October time to find that out??

Johnny Cool..ur a galgets man, were you at the matches yesterday??

Nah, didn't make it up Ruairi Og. Was talking to one of the selectors later that evening and he felt a draw was about right although the goal at the end could and should of been stopped. Considering there's been a good few changes made to our team this year especially in key area's I'd of thought we'd be happy enough with the performance although you obviously always go out to win no matter what.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 01, 2007, 11:56:29 AM
Plenty of hurling activity on this weekend, is the Ulster League fixtures still on for Saturday,

According to our club website Dunloy play a host of matches in the next few days,

v Loughgiel senior feis thurs night,
v Gorts u21 fc fri night
v Moneyglass sfl sat 3pm
v St Galls uhl sat 6pm
v ballycran reserve hl sun
v ballycran shl

bit of a clash there with football and ulster hurling league on sat.  Any other club in the same position

Its great really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on May 01, 2007, 01:23:10 PM
I think the shamrocks will take it on sunday. They've been working hard in training for a few months now, getting over 30 at every session and only missing one player. Cushendall have only been training for about 2 weeks, usually get 10 players at training and are missing 6 players that would usually be in the starting 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on May 01, 2007, 02:20:29 PM
Hell yeah its true. I think the seniors have to now get their minor team to train with them on tuesday nights so that there are enough to play a match. I've heard its the result of the reserve structures being a total shambles within the club over the past few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2007, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 01, 2007, 11:56:29 AM
Plenty of hurling activity on this weekend, is the Ulster League fixtures still on for Saturday,

According to our club website Dunloy play a host of matches in the next few days,

v Loughgiel senior feis thurs night,
v Gorts u21 fc fri night
v Moneyglass sfl sat 3pm
v St Galls uhl sat 6pm
v ballycran reserve hl sun
v ballycran shl

bit of a clash there with football and ulster hurling league on sat.  Any other club in the same position

Its great really

This is a really tough ask for any individual max is it not. I hope that we spread the play across whole player population, but that is not easy. Nobody should be playing more than 3 games. Hopefully abit of common sense is used to get everyone through this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 01, 2007, 03:05:43 PM
Yeah Bob is right, attendance at training are poor enough at present. On a tuesday nite the seniors do train with the minors at present but that is because their is 9 away at the county(albeit some of them are injured),2 of our players are out of the country & we actually finsihed the match on Sunday with 4 minors on the pitch. Due to the lack of reserve matches in last couple of years very few reserves actually train & you cant blame them cos of the lack of matches.. Think that could change this year thank god. But there has been poor numbers at training for 2 or 3 years now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on May 01, 2007, 03:11:48 PM
Told you so............................ thanks for backing that up Ruairi Og exile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 01, 2007, 03:22:32 PM
absolutely theskull, i seriously pity dual players in weekends like this.  The managers need to put serious though into who plays what, the big problem i see is the reserve match on Sun. 

ideally skull 2 matches in 4 days woud probaly be plenty but i take on board no one should play more than 3, certainly nbodyshould play the two games on saturday.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 01, 2007, 03:53:52 PM
Tough one alright Max/Skull.

I personally would not start any U21 footballers at all in the Senior Feis Thursday. Why not take the football seriously for a change and the Gorts are a tough proposition.

I realise any Under 21 footballer doing well for the senior hurlers would maybe want to do both but the Feis is the Feis and they will probably be playing one if not two matches on Saturday.

If its done right this weekend could actually be a very useful tool for the managers of football/hurling and the club generally. As you say spread the playing time among the full extended panels...with preference to the U21 championship then the two Antrim senior leagues....people will get games.
Some good league action is what you have wanted Skull for an eternity - shame all your prayers were answered at once!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 02, 2007, 11:48:49 AM
U cushendall men are a bit of a wind up! people dont listen to ur dibble about poor turn outs etc. We all know as you do that nothing is won in april/may and you have plenty of lads training with county teams. Was at the dunloy v glenariffe game at weekend. it was decent game with dunloy looking very sharp indeed. glenariffe are a poor team who although capable of the odd big game have some very average players. will prob go to feais cup game on thursday dunloy v shamrocks. hopefully bothteams will field strong lineouts although i heard winker is out for a while! I honestly though shams wud be buzzin at this time under new management.Any reports of how new m'ment team are goin? not sure if we have any shams on board yet! Dont think broadband has arrived their yet :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on May 02, 2007, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 02, 2007, 11:48:49 AM
U cushendall men are a bit of a wind up! people dont listen to ur dibble about poor turn outs etc. We all know as you do that nothing is won in april/may and you have plenty of lads training with county teams.

Was reading the previous comments about turnouts for cushendall and was down by the Dall last night so decided to have a bit of a nosey at the training, at first i thought they had a really good turnout, but when i got talking to someone found out it was mostly the Minors, infact there was only 3 players who would be on the first team, with about 4 reserves, the rest where Minors,

i do agree with you though that nothing is won in May so i am sure they wont be too worried.

I agree with Bob? loughgiel should win on sunday though, Cushendall misiing far too many good hurlers through injury etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
So I take it Skull, Dunloy will not be playing full panel against ourselves this Saturday night? We would struggle to get players down for that time, more than likely be playing myself.

Think the senior football games have been moved till the Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 02, 2007, 12:28:29 PM
wudnt say that now. Loughguile havnt been firing on all cylinders and the dall seem to have the indian sign over them. i wud say dall will beat them by 2/3 pts.

antrim minors are going poor at min. i heard there arnt great turn outs at training and alot of lads who were involved last year say its a joke comared to last year. Excuses are accepted again!! and i cudnt believe boogie mcafee is training them. hes as bad a trainer i have seen. a couple of years ago he took ballycastle and by all accounts it was a shambles. and down minors have played 6 matches v southern opposition in the last number of weeks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 02, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
So I take it Skull, Dunloy will not be playing full panel against ourselves this Saturday night? We would struggle to get players down for that time, more than likely be playing myself.

Think the senior football games have been moved till the Sunday

Think our football match is still on saturday...sure we've 2 achl matches the next day (sen & sen res)

As regards the starting 15 on saturday, I can't a full panel being available milltown. I'd say all our dual players will be away with the footballers and not be selected fot the hurling at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2007, 08:29:20 AM
Antrim Division 1 Hurling
Lamh Dhearg    2-11   1-14   St. Galls    Lamh Dhearg   
Glenariff    2-17   2-10   St. Johns    Glenariff   
Sarsfields    2-6   3-11   Portaferry    Sarfields   

Antrim Division 2 Hurling
Glenravel    1-9   0-12   Shane O Neills    Glenravel   
Gaeil Chluana    1-13   0-15   Armoy    Ahoghill   
Rasharkin    2-7   0-16   Tir na Nog    Rasharkin   

Antrim Division 3 Hurling
St. Agnes    6-10   2-8   Creggan Gaels    St. Agnes   
Ballymena    4-8   5-6   St. Teresas    Ballymena   
Cloughmills    4-9   3-9   St. Endas    Cloughmills   
Sarsfields 2   3-7   2-10   O Mitchel Og    Woodlands   
Ardoyne    3-11   0-4   Larne    Mallusk   
St. Pauls 2   2-9   2-4   Na fuiseoig    St. Pauls   
Bredagh    3-4   4-9   Davitts    Cherryvale
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 03, 2007, 09:34:26 AM
12 players came up to us after the game last night Skull and told us that they can't make the game this Saturday, expect a call from the manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 03, 2007, 10:37:55 AM
Bogie is taking the county minors!!!  :o You have to be having a laugh!

He trained the ballycastle footballers lst yr and the hurlers a few yrs ago and carey aswell!

christ help the young fellas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 03, 2007, 01:08:01 PM
Quote from: youngfella on May 03, 2007, 10:37:55 AM
Bogie is taking the county minors!!!  :o You have to be having a laugh!

He trained the ballycastle footballers lst yr and the hurlers a few yrs ago and carey aswell!

christ help the young fellas

Is Paul McStravick not the main man with the Antrim minors this year? I'm almost certain he left the Down camogs to take up the role at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 03, 2007, 01:28:21 PM
Thats right JC, McStravick is the man in charge, boogie must only be a trainer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 03, 2007, 02:18:30 PM
How is the Ulster minor Hurling teams shaping up this year? Like are they playing in any competitions with southern teams so we can roughly gage what to expect or hope for this year? This last three years Antrim were fierce unlucky....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 03, 2007, 03:34:14 PM
we are down to play Loughgiel next week (wed) in senior and reserve but they have us down for the same time does Loughgiel use two pitches for games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 03, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
Milltown that is probably the case - they have 2 very good hurling fields up there and no question that they can field 2 teams at once!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 04, 2007, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 03, 2007, 09:34:26 AM
12 players came up to us after the game last night Skull and told us that they can't make the game this Saturday, expect a call from the manager

Thanks for the update milltown. So is the match definately off? Word hasn't got down here yet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 04, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
tried phoning manager last night Obviously you had a game with Loughgiel but we are trying to rearrange for another date, good enough reasons for not being there. means i wont get a run out  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 06, 2007, 07:00:37 PM
Results from this afternoon:

Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Glenariff  2-12 3-10 Portaferry
Ballygalget  1-11 0-4 Ballycastle 
Ballycran  0-13 3-10 Dunloy
Loughgiel Shamrocks  1-12 2-4 Cushendall   

Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Ballycran  0-6 3-9 Dunloy

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on May 07, 2007, 02:06:05 PM
Was at the Loughguile Cdall game, thought it was poor, lot of apathy players minds don,t seem to on the game at the moment, although Loughguile where deserved winners in the end.

Just like to post my disgust at the Hurling Fiele, the stories i am hearing Ref" Poor Organisation", kids get one chance a year and the supposed Management who are being paid to do this Full Time could,nt do that right. Frankie hang your head in shame, Ulster Council need to look at this, year after year it gets worse!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on May 08, 2007, 08:39:32 AM
Was at the Lough v Dall match on sunday myself. Was down rou d that area for a drive so thought I'd call in. The best team won. I thought they were the better team all over the park. They looked really sharp and some great touches. I think they'd have to be my bet for the championship now. I don't think anyone will come near them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 08, 2007, 08:55:15 AM
Impressive wins for Ballygalget & Loughgeil. Anybody at Ballygalget? I thought Ballycastle were improved on last year? Are Ballygalget back to their best after all the injuries of last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 08, 2007, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on May 08, 2007, 08:55:15 AM
Impressive wins for Ballygalget & Loughgeil. Anybody at Ballygalget? I thought Ballycastle were improved on last year? Are Ballygalget back to their best after all the injuries of last year?

I wouldn't read an awful lot into the result, Ballycastle travelled fairly weakened due to a wedding according to some of their management. The game was over as a contest fairly early on with magic getting tired with the amount of ball he was getting. Neil McAuley does look to be a fine hurler in the making but I don't think Ballycastle have enough decent young hurlers around to compliment him.

From a Ballygalget viewpoint midfield certainly suits Gabriel Clarke better than his normal wing back berth, that bit more freedom seems to bring out the best in him. Our injury count seems to be building with another two yesterday and that was before our county contingent went off to play Dublin in a friendly in Ballela that evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 08, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
Rising star Neil McManus is expected to delay surgery on a back problem in order to play in Antrim's Ulster and All-Ireland hurling championship campaign.

The Cushendall clubman was expected to sit out the championship due to a stress fracture in his lower back, but joint Antrim manager Dominic McKinley has revealed that he could postpone the operation until later in the year.

"Neil will have to go through an operation, but there is the possibility that he could delay that and still play a part this year for us. But he definitely won't play against London this weekend," McKinley said.

Experienced wing back Malachy Molloy is also expected to miss Sunday's championship opener against the Exiles with a hamstring injury. hogan stand.

jaysus, the young fella should take it easy or he could do more damage. Its bad that the chuckle brothers have allowed/pressureized him to continue, this could end Neil's hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 08, 2007, 12:41:55 PM
Neil is being told to rest his injury. Surgeon said he if rests his injury he'll be able to hurl some part this summer & get the operation in the winter. Declan McKillop was told not to hurl again due to a hip injury. Kevin Elliott got an operation on his knee last week & will be out for 5-6 weeks. After defeating Cushendall on Sunday the boys over in Castle Greyskull will fancy their chances for the championship.

Johnny Cool, agree about Gabriel Clarke..he was outstanding against us last week, although our midfield was non- exsistent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 08, 2007, 12:44:01 PM
no ya know how he done it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 08, 2007, 12:57:20 PM
Ruairi Og exile, does Declan McKillop have to give up hurling for good.  Youse have been fierce unlucky with injuries/illnesses etc over the last few years.  It would be a huge pity for McKillop after the fine season he had last year

What abut McManus, surely at his age he is not being pushed into this decision so he's available for the county.  I remember him in the papers a few weeks back saying it was great that they diagnosed it early this time as continued playing would only worsen the injury.  seems strange that now he can hurl again
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 08, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Max Power, aye think the doctors told him to give up. I dont if he is or if he can do anything to help him play. Know what you mean as regards injuries/illnesses. We lsot Ryan McNaughton for good & then micky monty whole of last year. Long term McManus will have to get the operation eventually, he can play some games then he'll have to rest it for a while then possibly play a few more. We were missing 7 at least, Karl McKeegan was missing on top of ones missing for first two matches.

I know Watson was missing on Sunday, anyhow know who else?? Not sure who else cos of possible retirements/injuries or maybe just not picked to play
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Post by: maxpower on May 08, 2007, 02:39:19 PM
why was watson missing, bearing in mind that he played against us on thurs so his broken foot couldn't be too bad.

In saying that i think they'd wheel him out in a wheelchair to play us
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Post by: North Antrim on May 08, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
think shamrocks management are trying a few knew players at min......some of the lads i didnt really know last thursday nite. id say a few of the players hav got a rude awakening this year wi their new management team. was talking top a player over weekend and said training was very tough this year!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 08, 2007, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 08, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
think shamrocks management are trying a few knew players at min......some of the lads i didnt really know last thursday nite. id say a few of the players hav got a rude awakening this year wi their new management team. was talking top a player over weekend and said training was very tough this year!!!!

The strength which cost the shamrocks dearly last year can't be got from running round a field. You either have it or you don't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on May 08, 2007, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on May 08, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
We were missing 7 at least, Karl McKeegan was missing on top of ones missing for first two matches.


i heard that Karl Mckeegan was missing because he went to play golf instead of going to the match, can you clarify this exile.........if it is true speaks volumes for Karl.

i heard before that his commitment to C'dall was questionable, this maybe proves it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 09, 2007, 12:14:20 PM
Aye he was away Golfing,alot of people unhappy about this
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Post by: podge on May 09, 2007, 12:26:15 PM
I said it on here last year and I will say it again.  L'giels biggest problem is that they just don;t know what their best team is.  If they let a few players setlle into positions they would be a lot better  e.g after having played barney mc auley in almost every position, they have finally settled him in c back and he is reaping the reward.  Last year they were close because they had a more settled team and then they brought roadstone back! swevvy was man of match in the one of the finals and is now nowhere.  they had a young 19 year old, whitey, playing full back (one of the most importnat positions) for a season and now he is nowhere!  they must have tried 5 full backs over the last few years!  too many decent hurler are wasted in loughgiel because they aren;t allowed to settle into pa position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 09, 2007, 01:14:29 PM
I hear DD has pulled the pin on the county panel.
There must be seriously something rotten with this set up when people like that are walking away from it. I am also hearing reports that people are missing training when it suits and only showing up when they want. I also hear that Brian Delargy is starting CHF on sunday well if that is the satndard S&W are aiming for then we are very badly off.

Woody would be better worrying about the people that are there instead of spouting off in the southern press that there is no way back to the squad for those that have been asked to leave.

Are we any further on please someone tell me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on May 09, 2007, 01:27:49 PM
Not at all wrong with the set-up
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Post by: girt_giggler on May 09, 2007, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 08, 2007, 04:16:58 PM
Quotethink shamrocks management are trying a few knew players at min......some of the lads i didnt really know last thursday nite

the team on thursday is on the www.northantrimgaa.com

bit strange seeing timmy mcfaddens name in there. havent seen him hurl in a couple of years.

you havent seen many people hurl past couple of years sure...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 09, 2007, 02:44:48 PM
being out of the country and all that
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Post by: girt_giggler on May 09, 2007, 03:32:02 PM
mmmm...i thought i did but maybe im wrong, 'uni' has confused me. i thought my person was travelling!
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Post by: girt_giggler on May 09, 2007, 03:44:34 PM
naw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on May 09, 2007, 07:45:27 PM
team for match v london

Antrim (SHC v London) - Ryan McGarry, Michael Kettle, Michael McCambridge, Sean Delargy, Neal McAuley, Johnny Campbell, Ciaran Herron, Brendan Herron, Karl McKeegan, Karl Stewart, Brian Delargy, Michael Herron, John McIntosh, Kieran Kelly, Paul Shields. Subs - Damien Quinn, Brian McFall, Malachy Molloy, Barney McAuley, Paddy Richmond, Barry McFall, Aaron Graffin, Colm Duffin, James McKeague, Simon McCrory, Paddy McGill, Sean Burke, Seamus McDonnell, Eddie McCloskey.

bit surprised at the inclusion of mickey kettle ahead of barney mc auley and brian delargy ahead of paddy richmond but there may traning issues here.  think mal molloy is truggling with injury.  don;t rate m herron at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2007, 08:44:19 PM
Would have a few reservations although hopefully will not matter given the opposition.

Brian Delargy struggles with Cushendall and in most of the big games I've seen him in he's been subbed as well as I think being dropped late for the county final. Don't get me wrong big strong fella with a good left side but very very slow for county level and even top club level. Kettle and McAuley could be training reasons - would have thought McAuley(Barney) was our most consistent player for the last while. Like Podge says I wouldn't rate Micko Herron either. Some people reckon he'd be a very good half back - maybe worth trying there. He would need to stop mouthing and acting the maggot though.

Good to see Tosh and Micky back and the rest of the balance of the team looks good. Hopefully Pinky will give us good presence in the FF line. With Molloy to come back could be a decent half back line too when all fit and good to see the younger McAuley getting a game - hopefully bring him on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on May 10, 2007, 12:40:17 AM
Sean Burke & Eddie McCloskey on that panel? Gimme a break! Burkey is a footballer and is too soft for Senior Championship. Hate to say it about a clubmate, but it's true. I've marked Eddie McCloskey in my time, and while he's a decent enough hurler, he shouldn't be anywhere near that panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 10, 2007, 08:48:15 AM
Gallsman you're a bit harsh in your assessment of your club mate Burkey, yes there may be better stick men out there and players that have been on the panel longer and have more experience. But this is his first full year playing division one senior club hurling, and having watched and played along side him recently there has been a big improvement in his game. Sambo and Woody obviously see that the guy is a workhorse who does not stop, takes, and gives big tackles.

As it is he's not on the first team so no need for undue criticism, playing last night against Loughgiel down there he battled hard and scored points from midfield he's only 19 and in two or three years he will have developed into a good county hurler.

Some of the names not playing for the county are good hurlers but what do the managers do, do they pick hurlers on reputation or commitment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 10, 2007, 09:24:04 AM
any report from the match last night milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 10, 2007, 09:50:44 AM
Played in terrible conditions it was a keenly fought contest score line was 2 : 7 to       0 : 8 as usual we gave Loughgiel a 2 goal start but fought back to leave two points in it at the end of the first half. Loughgiel were missing Watson and McFadden as far as I'm aware we were missing a few as well but the lads that came in done well, second half the weather got worse but it was a fair result and I hope we are not too far away from them come championship time.

Loughgiel had at least 27 players warming up before match started with all sorts of drills and exercises, it looked a bit ominous for us but I was expecting more from them and I think we will take more from the game despite the defeat than Loughgiel.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on May 10, 2007, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 10, 2007, 08:48:15 AM
Gallsman you're a bit harsh in your assessment of your club mate Burkey, yes there may be better stick men out there and players that have been on the panel longer and have more experience. But this is his first full year playing division one senior club hurling, and having watched and played along side him recently there has been a big improvement in his game. Sambo and Woody obviously see that the guy is a workhorse who does not stop, takes, and gives big tackles.

As it is he's not on the first team so no need for undue criticism, playing last night against Loughgiel down there he battled hard and scored points from midfield he's only 19 and in two or three years he will have developed into a good county hurler.

Some of the names not playing for the county are good hurlers but what do the managers do, do they pick hurlers on reputation or commitment?


I fully accept this MR, but from what I remember of Burkey (and I was only the one year above him), and what I still saw even in the Ulster Minor Club Football, is that he is overly cocky, and tends to pick up needless cards against fellas who are considerably smaller than him. He always had something to say, but never really had anything to back it up with. How that will turn out at senior level I just don't know. But never, say never, hopefully he's grown up a bit and realised that he has far too much talent (at both codes) to be arsing around and trying to start rows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 10, 2007, 12:08:47 PM
granted gallsman, he's commitment to the hurling team this year which is good, and he's just another player in a changing room full of strong charcters so all that stuff you leave behind when you start to mature.

anyway did Dunloy play Lamhs last night Max/skull? seems to be no score on the Antrim web site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 10, 2007, 12:10:46 PM
Strange oul team Sambo and Woody have named for Sunday's match.  If its true DD has dropped of the panel you seriously have to wonder whats going on.  Why was he dropped, does anyone know?  if it was because of committment issues then thats to be accepted, but i would be surprised if that was the case

alot of experienced players no longer involved with antrim and rumours that a 19 year old is being encourage to delay a neccessary operation in order to line out in an Ulster final, this from the outside doesn't look good for the two men in charge

Dunloy Lamh dearg match was abandoned due to a heavy fog, had to be done not much else ref could do.  i think we were winning 1-5 to 0-4 or something similar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on May 10, 2007, 12:34:02 PM
perhaps DD just left the panel as he was a bit disappointed with his form.  Why does everyone that is not on the panel have to be as consequence of S&W?

and who knows whether or not they are putting pressure on mc manus to delay the op.

deal with facts and not speculation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Insider on May 11, 2007, 12:32:08 AM
Quote from: maxpower on May 10, 2007, 12:10:46 PM
Strange oul team Sambo and Woody have named for Sunday's match.  If its true DD has dropped of the panel you seriously have to wonder whats going on.  Why was he dropped, does anyone know?  if it was because of committment issues then thats to be accepted, but i would be surprised if that was the case

alot of experienced players no longer involved with antrim and rumours that a 19 year old is being encourage to delay a neccessary operation in order to line out in an Ulster final, this from the outside doesn't look good for the two men in charge

Dunloy Lamh dearg match was abandoned due to a heavy fog, had to be done not much else ref could do.  i think we were winning 1-5 to 0-4 or something similar

Where do you get your information? Neil McManus was not encouraged to delay a necessary operation. This was a decision between Neil,his GP the team doctor and his surgeon and he has not been put at any risk by wanting to delay surgery to the end of the season. The managers had nothing to do with this. It's unbelievable some of the crap that comes on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on May 11, 2007, 08:52:26 AM
Was at a club meeting last night, i hear R Matthews the Referee allegedly struck a mentor from Sarsfields in the Ulster League at the weekend and put the head into another player, if we are supposedly trying to stamp things out of the game with players and mentors, now we have Referees doing it as well, does the CCC deal with these guys?

I don,t believe it myself, just mud slinging i would say. Keep it up Ray they are F O Sh**!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2007, 10:13:16 AM
Quote from: The Insider on May 11, 2007, 12:32:08 AM
The managers had nothing to do with this. It's unbelievable some of the crap that comes on here.

No worse than you hear in the street Insider so get off your high horse
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Post by: NAG on May 11, 2007, 11:02:51 AM
The skull, I see we have now got some of the casement band wagon trying to force feed us the party line. I thought we paid our administrators and paid officials to run the county not to be spouting off on web sites.

We know the panel is operating well a dog on the street could tell you that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2007, 11:04:07 AM
Tongue Firmly in cheek!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 11, 2007, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: davincicode on May 11, 2007, 08:52:26 AM

I don,t believe it myself, just mud slinging i would say. Keep it up Ray they are F O Sh**!
If you don't believe it why repeat it? RM is one of the best refs in Ulster so do us all a favour and delete your post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 11, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
just hold on a wee minute insider and read what i said.  there are rumours that young mc manus is being encouraged to delay the op to help antrim, all i have said is this doesn't look good for the men in charge especially when combined with the number of walk outs from experienced men.

don't think there has been much crap said in these statements.  or should we as antrim supporters just blindly follow the faith questioning nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
That was some performance today! Everyone was saying before the match that games like this tell us nothing but in fact it told us a lot, for starters Karl Stewart should have stayed in bed and DD Quinn must have a voodoo doll! Antrim were brutal in the second half!
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Post by: Syd on May 13, 2007, 10:15:19 PM
Anyone any views on todays game against London? I thought Ryan Mc Garry was poor in goals and Micky Monty was a bit shaky in front of him, London were desperate though. They had a Number 14 who caused us a fair bit of bother though. I know you can only beat what is put in front of you but there will be some dark days in the qualifiers i think. And who is trying to tell me the fella Duffin that came on is intercounty standard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2007, 10:30:25 PM
Antrim will be in big trouble later in the year if the are shipping 3 goals against the likes of London.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2007, 09:26:50 AM
Have to say Antrim lived up to my expectations yesterday, the young ones struggled even against an absolutely rubbish london team. Im think it is going to be a very tough summer, no one can tell me we are a better now than we were this time last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2007, 11:12:30 AM
antrim done a fair enough job in the first half but the second half was embarrassing to say the least. a tenner in to watch the dullest match ever, the game that got the biggest response from the crowd was the school games on at half time. maybe these kids coming through will give us some hope.

terminal decline :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 14, 2007, 01:36:56 PM
Milltown maybe you can clear this up. There is a post on Hoganstand saying Karl Stewart "refuses" to play club hurling for St Galls, any truth in it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2007, 02:07:12 PM
Yes Karl has only played one Ulster hurling league game and a few challenge games at the start of the year, a fall out within the club has resulted in Karl considering playing for the current management. Hopefully will be resolved soon.

This sort of thing happens in all clubs. I'd say that after watching the game on Sunday that Karl could have had a better game but he was not the worst player on show and they have been playing for their clubs.
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Post by: Syd on May 14, 2007, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 14, 2007, 02:07:12 PM
Yes Karl has only played one Ulster hurling league game and a few challenge games at the start of the year, a fall out within the club has resulted in Karl considering playing for the current management. Hopefully will be resolved soon.

This sort of thing happens in all clubs. I'd say that after watching the game on Sunday that Karl could have had a better game but he was not the worst player on show and they have been playing for their clubs.


Hopefully will not be resolved before Wednesday, we play youse !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 14, 2007, 02:24:04 PM
could someone at yesterdays game give players ratings?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
How did the younger boys do - Shields and McAuley?

Is Kettle looking any good?
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Post by: Syd on May 14, 2007, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 03:12:15 PM
How did the younger boys do - Shields and McAuley?

Is Kettle looking any good?

Kettle was ok, didnt have much to do. Shields was pretty anonymous it has to be said, against poor opposition too.
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Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2007, 03:24:33 PM
i take it it was just a cut for tosh, he'll be playing this wed?

it will be nip and tuck this wed against yourselves Syd, our lads are playing a under21 final this friday so we might be missing some will find out tonight. might get another run out 8)
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Post by: Syd on May 14, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 14, 2007, 03:24:33 PM
i take it it was just a cut for tosh, he'll be playing this wed?

it will be nip and tuck this wed against yourselves Syd, our lads are playing a under21 final this friday so we might be missing some will find out tonight. might get another run out 8)

Aye he got stitches in it, Woody told him not to bother going back on because the match was over after 10 minutes. Our manager and his son, Paul Mc Donnell work in Wexford so cant make midweek games, he would be one of our better forwards but Tosh would have been a massive loss if he wasnt playing.
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Post by: youngfella on May 14, 2007, 04:28:32 PM
shields and mcauley, no use then?? what was pinky like man-ing the square?
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Post by: Glensman on May 14, 2007, 05:56:28 PM
McGarry - At fault for one of the goals I would say (think it was dropped into the net). Super puck outs though - Picked men out well. Won't have that much time and space against decent opposition - 6.

Kettle - Didn't have much to do. First half was makring no-one due to them playing 3rd midfielder. What he did he did well. - 7

McCambridge - Again not loads of action but was coming under a bit of pressure from London's full forward when he actually played there in the second half - 6

Delargy - played well. Pick of the defence I thought - 7 1/2.

McAuley - hurled well enough I thought. Few strong catches - 7.

Campbell - Best Johnny has played for a while. Will need to toughen up v bigger opposition - 7

C Herron - solid/consistent as usual. Thankfully after a great game in the league against Dublin it is hopefully the case that we are saying Ciaran was solid as usual - he lost it for a while - 7

B Herron - didn't sparkle but wasn't outplayed - 6

Karl McKeegan - played well enough. battled harder than some. Should have been sent off near the end for putting the feet in a London player's head (not as bad as it sounds but still foolish). Pretty foolish manourve from an 'elder' statesman and if the ref had been applying the letter of the law he would have missed a fair bit of the summer's action - 7.

Karl Stewart - played grand I thought (disagree with someone's earlier comments. Thought he was the best in a dodgy enough half forward line - kept plugging away) - 7

Delargy - played ok. Took a couple of good points but his man got the better of him. Need someone with a bit more hurling savvy at No.11 - 6 1/2

M Herron -  honeslty thought he should have been getting the abuse Stewart was getting earlier on this thread. Some poor decisions and missed a few easy chances second half. Admittedly he made a couple of those chances himself with a couple of runs but against better teams EVERY chance will have to be taken. Again he is arguably a half back - 5 1/2

J Tosh - not on long enough to be rated but quick thinking for the goal from the free...such quick thinking I was reading my program when it happened - where is the big screen for replays at Casement?!

K Kelly - good target man, good hands and two good but different goals. However, a bit infuriating...about 3 occasions tried to pick the ball up with one hand and it didn't work. One time fair enough...not again. Got himself into a couple of good positions where a quick pass would have seen him goal but wasn't passed to (M Herron a couple of times). 7

P Shields - looked quite lightweight. A good bit of ball was going his way first half - some crossfield, some down the line. Should have got a couple more. All the comments said about him apply again - Looks jaded enough (the boy in middle of A Levels) and needs to bulk up. 6 1/2

Brian McFall - poor enough, slow and not particularaly good distribution. If he could get a few more yards of pace that would be super and stick to the things he is good at. I bet a friend a fiver he would stick a sideline over in second half...he is normally super at that...he fluffed it! Did take a good point from an acute angle - 6

Subs..not really on long enough to get rated (I reckon). Excited to see this Colm Duffin on the panel from Randalstown. Fair enough he didn't set the world on fire when he came on but he got stuck in when things weren't going for him. Hopefully, it will come for him.

Antrim generally were there old infuriating selves. Some good passages of play when you are praying, crossing fingers etc that if that was sustained a challenge could be put into a good southern team. Then they fart around, hit numerous wides and let teams back in.
Not as hopeless as some have described but much room for improvement.

Kelly to centre half forward (Would have him full back in my best team), M Molloy in for McAuley, Richmond Full Forward.

Has DD really left the panel? Couldn't see the subs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 14, 2007, 09:02:25 PM
Yes DD has left the panel. There was no sub keeper yesterday, only in Antrim !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 14, 2007, 09:53:40 PM
from Hoganstand:

McKinley voices concern over Ulster final venue
14 May 2007

Antrim joint-manager Dominic McKinley has questioned the Ulster Council's decision to stage the province's senior hurling final in Newry in the event of Down beating Derry in the remaining semi-final.

"Crowds at Ulster finals are only about 3,000 and they need to look at the reasons behind it and hopefully they're not killing the Ulster final for good," McKinley said after Antrim's comfortable semi-final win over London at Casement Park.

"I have nothing against Newry. I have no problem with playing anywhere as long as there is a field there. But it's disappointing as far as a hurling person goes. I would be very concerned about the crowd.

"I certainly don't think north Antrim people in general would travel to Newry and that's very disappointing for Ulster hurling and I think we need to do something about that. How they'll get a crowd there, I don't know. I don't think it adds up at all."


Now I don't know Mckinley on a personal level but he seems to do a fair amount of whinging or is that just how the press portray him?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 08:50:35 AM
Johnny are you bringing your reserves to milltown this wed night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 15, 2007, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 08:50:35 AM
Johnny are you bringing your reserves to milltown this wed night?

Who is Johnny?? No we have not entered a reserve team in All County, we play in North Antrim league on a Thursday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 09:33:03 AM
Johnneycool, Syd before your game we are due to play Ballygalget in reserve hurling was wondering if they will be down considering the strange fixture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 15, 2007, 09:41:28 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 09:33:03 AM
Johnneycool, Syd before your game we are due to play Ballygalget in reserve hurling was wondering if they will be down considering the strange fixture

Oh right, wires crossed. Are youse resting players before u-21 final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 15, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 09:33:03 AM
Johnneycool, Syd before your game we are due to play Ballygalget in reserve hurling was wondering if they will be down considering the strange fixture

Our seconds team are playing Ballela tonight so I'll find out then, but as our seniors haven't a game tomorrow night there's a good chance we'll be up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 15, 2007, 11:05:29 AM
i hope not Syd as thats at least 4 players of our senior team, should get some ruling today, football and hurling is a mix in the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 16, 2007, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 16, 2007, 11:17:50 AM
as i am in scotland at uni and not home for it, was just wondering will any of you going to the ulster final if it is in newry?

Dont think i will bother, i do agree with sharing it about though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 16, 2007, 10:25:18 PM
All County Division 1

Glenariffe beat St Galls by 5 tonight in Milltown.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on May 16, 2007, 11:25:36 PM
Wednesday 16th May 2007
Antrim Division 1 Hurling

St. Galls  1-10 2-12 Glenariff 
Portaferry  - - Rossa   Not Played
Dunloy  4-33 1-4 Sarsfields   
Ballycastle  2-18 0-9 Lamh Dhearg
 
Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

St. Galls  - - Ballygalget  Not Played

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

St. Pauls  3-5 1-8 Gaeil Chluana
Shane O Neills  3-8 1-6 Gort Na Mona

Antrim Division 3 Hurling

Ardoyne  2-3 6-11 St. Teresas
Davitts  1-6 6-12 Cloughmills
St. Endas  6-16 1-6 Bredagh 
St. Agnes  2-20 0-3 O Mitchel Og 
Na fuiseoig  2-1 4-10 Larne
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 17, 2007, 07:00:30 AM
I'd heard Portaferry didn't want to play Rossa without their county men with the USHC semi final on Sunday. Johnneycool said Ballygelget IIs were playing in Down on Tuesday -maybe they couldn't play 2 nights running?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2007, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: Syd on May 16, 2007, 10:25:18 PM
All County Division 1

Glenariffe beat St Galls by 5 tonight in Milltown.  ;D

Yes Syd you won and deservedly so we never came out in the second half. We were 2 points up then you replied with 4 unanswered points we seemed very flat and stick work was poor. We had about ¾ players that hurled well the rest seemed to just go through the motions.

Thought Tosh was quiet, your fullback got skinned in the first half by Mackers but the rest hurled hard, your mentors were losing it in the first half that's no good.

I like Ray as a referee as he tries not to blow the whistle too much but this is were frustration can boil over and it's hard to call, I personally think if a forward is being constantly fouled, jersey holding off the ball the best advantage he can get is the a free 21/30 yards out, our lads were getting to the ball Ray was giving advantage but then our lads either miss hit the ball or lost it, no advantage.

Some of our players were also thinking about the under 21 game on Friday not focused on the game in hand. Good win for yourselves it's been a couple of years since you beat us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 17, 2007, 09:01:30 AM
I agree with you about our mentors, well one in particular. We were going mad about it at h/t. Tosh was quiet, but in fairness any other times he has been quiet we havent won because we rely on him so heavily. I thought when Mackers went round our FB for the goal it may have been a long night but in fairness he knuckled down after that, Mackers is the kind of player you can knock out of the game, plenty of ability but he is in and out a lot, would say the same about Gaga too. We were trying to think of the last time we beat youse up there but couldnt remember ! That is the first time i have played against CJ and have to say his striking was really poor for the majority of the game. Where is Kieran McGourty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2007, 09:14:43 AM
keiran was in france, i'd have took CJ off after ten minutes he didn't want to know, with all the games (all those players play football) going on at the minute we have not had a chance to train, come june we will start back, stick work should have improved and the fitness is already there.

i got the shephards crook 5 minutes before the game  :'( as the under 21 footballers arrived, kicked my heels the whole game on the line, but if i'm playing then we don't have all our players available.

if CJ had have stayed in the corner and fought for the ball he would have been more effective than he was, some of our main players were quiet too but come Championship i'm sure you will see a different team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 17, 2007, 09:22:25 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 17, 2007, 09:14:43 AM

i got the shephards crook 5 minutes before the game  :'( 

Where would you have been playing? I could maybe have given you a slap!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2007, 09:32:53 AM
i played for years in the backs but with the age catching up i've turned into a corner forward. would have relished playing last night, being part of the management for the past three years now so it's always difficult to pick yourself, promote the youth and all that crap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 17, 2007, 10:50:01 AM
Get a room you two!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 17, 2007, 11:13:25 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 17, 2007, 10:50:01 AM
Get a room you two!

Do you want to watch Arthur?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2007, 11:19:30 AM
Sarsfields took a fair old hammering last night. Looks like they may be out of their depth at that level.

Gort Na Mona beat by Glenarm is an odd result too.  Maybe they were concentrating on the football.

Syd I reckon you sound like a nasty corner back...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 17, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
Sounds good Syd, where do you buy the tickets. Do I need to ask which mentor was going mental on the sideline?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 17, 2007, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 17, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
Sounds good Syd, where do you buy the tickets. Do I need to ask which mentor was going mental on the sideline?

Well he wasnt as guilty as the other one believe it or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 17, 2007, 11:56:39 AM
you have a pm syd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 21, 2007, 12:16:35 PM
so the ulster final has been changed back to casement, complaining should stop
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 08:09:48 AM
can any of the down posters tell me if their clubs are playing senior hurling this wed night? has the county board called of their games due to the replay with Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2007, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 08:09:48 AM
can any of the down posters tell me if their clubs are playing senior hurling this wed night? has the county board called of their games due to the replay with Derry

Lamh Dhearg    Cushendall    Lamh Dhearg   23/05/2007   19:30   Ray Matthews      
Sarsfields    St. Johns    Sarfields   23/05/2007   19:30   Garrett Duffy      
Rossa    Dunloy    Rossa   23/05/2007   19:30   Eugene McHugh      
Ballycran    St. Galls    Ballycran   23/05/2007   20:00   Declan Magee


I wouldn't be expecting Ballycran to appear Milltown, their county contingent is fairly sizeable now.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
well, we have had no notification to tell us so all players have been contacted, crazy situation developing here. will the fixtures that are fixed for next wed go ahead as Antrim will be playing that sunday in the final. i doubt it very much double standards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 22, 2007, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
will the fixtures that are fixed for next wed go ahead as Antrim will be playing that sunday in the final. i doubt it very much double standards

How do you work out the double standards milltown? If Antrim had been playing this Sunday all relevant fixtures would have been called off tomorrow night / sunday.  Down clubs can't be fined by the Antrim board for not fielding - just an unfortunate side effect of them being part of Div 1, but I can see their point if they decide not to field against you, but as always a bit of common decency by telling you in advance would be nice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 12:55:56 PM
It's very simple the Down teams have been playing in the Antrim leagues for a number of years they are quality sides that have very high standards and have been a positive for Antrim, Down and Ulster hurling, do you agree? To then turn round and say that they must play their games without their main players is unfair, so when Antrim fixtures have been in place for a number of weeks it's ok to change them because Antrim is playing in the final!!!!

We might as well not let the Down teams in the Antrim leagues because we cant accommodate them

AONTRIOM you'd do well to take off your saffron tinted glasses,  i'm all for developing hurling in Antrim as much as the next guy and if the likes of the Derry and Down teams are able to compete with the Antrim clubs then that will only make us better, if we exclude them by making them play games without their main players then thats a step backwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2007, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: aontroim on May 22, 2007, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 22, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
will the fixtures that are fixed for next wed go ahead as Antrim will be playing that sunday in the final. i doubt it very much double standards

Down clubs can't be fined by the Antrim board for not fielding - just an unfortunate side effect of them being part of Div 1.

Someone better tell our treasurer that as he's paid fines in the past for not fielding.

If Down and Derry hadn't of drawn the final would of been fixed for this sunday. With Antrim's participation would their county board of set up a full round of fixtures on the wednesday night? I'd of thought not. Whoever set that fixture for Ballycran knew in all probability that it won't take place. A bit of a silly decision.
From a Ballycran POV, I'm sure they'll inform the Down county secretary of the fixture and leave it up to him to speak to his Antrim counterpart to get the game called off. If the county secretaries fail to agree, Ballycran will more than likely bring up a team similar to what happened recently when the Down clubs had games the same day the county team were to play Dublin in a friendly. A compromise was reached which suited everyone barring the players who played two games in the one day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 24, 2007, 09:19:10 AM
good win for us last night in Ballycran, in a game that i'm sure put the Down county lads under pressure we came through on a score line of 2.7 to 12 points, we stole the match in the end with a 21 yard free blasted into the net in injury time. Gary Savage and Simon Wilson were the only ones i noticed not playing although Wilson came on midway through the second half.

and it was double joy for the lads as we also won the reserve game. i'm a bit sore today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on May 24, 2007, 09:21:58 AM
and it was double joy for the lads as we also won the reserve game. i'm a bit sore today

thats cause you're too old. Give it up lad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 24, 2007, 09:31:05 AM
no danger!!  still got maybe a year or two left ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 24, 2007, 11:23:35 AM
Whats the general feeling guy's of general standards in the club game at the minute? 

I wouldn't be too impressed with what I have seen to date this year (although its great now that the matches are there to be played). I believe this is in part down to years of neglect by our county board as sucessive county managers ruined club leagues in their quests to win all ireland titles  ??? Clubs must also take a share in the drop in standards as the basic skill level and laissez-faire attitides of a some of the young players throughout the county leave alot to be desired. The right type of coaching must not have been carried out in enough clubs. One man looking after a bunch of young fellas is just a babysitter. Every team should have at least 4 mentors to push any team on. Clubs need to find more bodies to play their part and get standards up.

BTW
Dunloy beat Rossa last night 3-19 to 1-12. Don't believe Rossa are as bad as this scoreline might suggest going by skill levels anyway. There was just too many players who looked as if they could take it or leave it. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 24, 2007, 01:18:02 PM
Skull the standard is far superior to that of 20 years ago without doubt, you only have to watch All Ireland gold. But yes Antrim teams seem to be way of the mark at club level with the likes of Ballyhale or Toomevara, and the likes of those teams. I hope with the way things are going at the minute the leagues will get better we have played all our games regardless of exams, fall outs and people working, yes we need to win games to stay in the top division and the standard has dropped for us as we need our full squad out to compete with the big teams, hopefully come August we will be stronger.

Skull I have to say that the team we brought down to your place last Sunday had 6 seniors on it we tried to make a fight of it but with the current state of affairs at the minute within our club that's all we could muster that day, unlike last night when we had 30 players down in Ballycran for senior and reserve (we won both)
At the minute you seem to flying accuracy is there and depth in your panel, I would not take too much out of beating a team unless it's close to full strength

Regarding coaching the kids I've been doing it for a long time and the babysitting factor is common we just don't have enough parents who where past players involved to take these kids. The kids we do have are capable of stuff I could only do after years of going to training so they have the ability. The only difference is that they are not tough enough, mentally. 

regarding your win last night did Rossa put up a fight early on or just collapse?  some teams just give up too early in hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 24, 2007, 02:04:29 PM
Well lads hows things goin. Was working in England for the past 2 weeks. Just back yesterday. Antrim into Ulster final cant wait to see it ;)

Hows the clubs shaping up??

Dunloy have threw up a couple of big scores....

Cushendall - havnt started really yet

Loughguile - hard to know wot to make of them this year

Any comments
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 24, 2007, 05:32:22 PM
anyone hear the goings on with gort na mona and glenravel lastnite?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on May 24, 2007, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 24, 2007, 07:18:11 PM
Quoteanyone hear the goings on with gort na mona and glenravel lastnite?
Read a few of the comments on the hoganstand discussion board. Awful stuff altogether. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest though. A team should be able to travel to a game knowing that their possessions are safe in the changing room. I heard one lad had £50 stolen and another a phone. A dirty shower of cnuts that would do that. I hope that Gort na Mona take responsibility to investigate the matter. The signs that clubs have in their changing rooms saying that the club take no responsibility for the loss of possessions etc is a load of dung. If they want to have home games they have to make sure players/managers/referees possessions are safe during the game. If this continues, clubs should refuse to travel to their pitch for games and the county board should make them play all games away from home.

Dirty scumbags, were the changing rooms not locked?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 24, 2007, 10:21:21 PM
Last night must have been the night for incidents then, as there were several in ballymena at their div 3 game v Aggie's. Some fairly brutal sledging after the match was abandoned by ref, leaving an Aggies member in hospital overnight. hopefully his injuries aren't too bad, and the guilty player or players are given appropriate punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on May 24, 2007, 10:51:29 PM
i agree hardstation, i think clubs should be held resposible for the theft of visiting teams posessions.  How hard is it to make sure changing rooms are locked after a team goes onto the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2007, 09:51:57 AM
Apologies for my ignorance on this matter, but what competition will Antrim be in this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 25, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
Antrim are in Liam McCarthy (tier 1) this year as a result of winning the Christy Ring last year. Guaranteed a few games in the group stages at least after the Ulster C'ship Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2007, 10:11:38 AM
They'll be in the Liam McCarthy group stages with early losers in Leinster, Munster and Galway all also in the hat.

Just on comments about the club game. Not a hurler but from the outside looking in I think the standard has dipped considerably. The standard of players in the county is not what it was ten years ago and definitely not what it was twenty years ago. Gone are the days when we could have a club team realistically make anything of a fight for the AI.

I think that the absence of club games has not helped. Three or four years ago the younger boys were getting nothing in terms of senior hurling as Dinny wouldn't allow club games and I think that has stifled development so the younger boys coming through are maybe not as good as they could/should be.

The better teams have dropped in standard considerably. I watched Cushendall - Dunloy last year and was shocked at how bad Dunloy had become. A lot of this however did look due to rustiness and I think that they can be serious challengers if they get the right games.The U21 team they had two years ago was really good and wiped the floor with what is now a good percentage of the Cushendall senior team. They need more from Darren Quinn and the like who showed so much promise early on Cushendall also have a few weaknesses in their team and really five to ten years ago would not have been near a county title with current team. Loughgiel possess about 7 or 8 good players and the rest they could interchange quite easily with boys on their reserve team to no great detriment. The Down teams I don't know enough about but I think Down have some hurlers like Braniff, Coulter jnr, Magic and maybe one or two others who I'd love to have in an Antrim team. Rossa are realistically an aging team but hopefully St Johns will improve from their underage structures. St Galls have all the potential but realistically hurling is second to the big ball and unless they can change that I can't see them challenging seriously for senior honours.

The club leagues look to be running well this year though and that will hopefully increase the standard. The ulster league however appears to have become a bit of a joke. I never thought this league would be of great benefit to top antrim or down teams but really it's a league which could have been very beneficial to Derry teams and Armagh teams and lower league down/antrim teams.
Title: MINOR TEAM
Post by: aontroim on May 25, 2007, 10:27:27 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=459 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=459)

Antrim minor team for Ulster Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2007, 11:09:30 AM
That McCaffrey fella who it states is from Rossa - I thought he was from St Galls if my memory serves me correctly from last year? Milltown has he changed club?

Don't really know what to make of the team. Young hippy though should be a damn good player for that age group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 25, 2007, 12:02:37 PM
Was talking to a relation of young donnellys, who informed me he is suffering from an injury at present. Think he will have to go for an operation in the very near future. Wud be a massive loss to the team. Team doesnt seem as gid as past couple of years, although i do know michael mcCarthy, Conor Rocks, Peter Dallat and Darren Hamill are top players. Young McCloskey wud normally be a defender, think he played centre back for Cross & Passion. Hopefully they will deliver on Sunday and then we will see if they can mix it with the big boys. Young hippys fitness will be crucial though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 25, 2007, 12:24:14 PM
Mc Caffrey is definatly from st galls, son of ref speedy!

Quote from: aontroim on May 24, 2007, 10:21:21 PM
Last night must have been the night for incidents then, as there were several in ballymena at their div 3 game v Aggie's. Some fairly brutal sledging after the match was abandoned by ref, leaving an Aggies member in hospital overnight. hopefully his injuries aren't too bad, and the guilty player or players are given appropriate punishment.

i heard roy mclarnon from aggies spend 4hours in hospital with a broken arm and jaw. he was attacked outside the changing rooms after the match while the players were getting changed.
there must have been murder for the ref to abandoned the match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 25, 2007, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 25, 2007, 12:02:37 PM
Was talking to a relation of young donnellys, who informed me he is suffering from an injury at present.

heard during the week he will play at full forward.
anyone know the full panel for the match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 26, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
No subs given on antrim website. Gort na Mona had a forward who played against us in the minor final last year who was very good...think his name is Desi McClean..is he minor this year/on the panel. Eoin Gillan from cushendall was named in nets but he injured himself in training so the Gorts keeper is in. Think it'll be  alot tougher than the last two years..but Antrim should win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 26, 2007, 06:28:05 PM
Wot happened Glenarrife against Carey in the Feis Cup last wednesday. Carey sprung a surprize to set up a semi-final with Ballycastle on Tuedsay week. Ballycastle will fancy that and will be in their first final in years where they play the winners of loughguile and cushendall at their home venue!! Cud their be a shock!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 26, 2007, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on May 25, 2007, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 25, 2007, 12:02:37 PM
Was talking to a relation of young donnellys, who informed me he is suffering from an injury at present.

heard during the week he will play at full forward.
anyone know the full panel for the match?

He looked injured during the match, he was hobbling about the whole match, he should never have started, they will end up doing him more damage playing him when he is injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 28, 2007, 12:50:43 AM
very little coverage of the minor game on the championship, some things never change!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on May 28, 2007, 12:23:48 PM
I may have heard him wrong but i thought i heard Austin O'Callaghan sayin that that 'Antrim ran out comfortable 9 point winners'!? Shocking that after he closest final in a few years where antrim just pulled away by 3 points in the end that the BBC dont even relay the proper info. The re-run show is tommorrow night, due to today being a bank holiday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 28, 2007, 03:34:59 PM
Took in minor final at the weekend. Was a poor enough standard although the tightness of the game kept it interesting. Couldnt believe Young Donnelly was played the entire game as he was hobbling about the entire game. Either he has no sense or the management dont care bout his health. That young lad will be littered with injuries all his career. Which is a pity as he is a truly outstanding prospect. But i fear for them once they hit All-Ireland stage. A real lack of committment shown by the players all season was evident as they didnt have any real pride or willingness to put their head on the block. Young Dallat was atrocious in midfield and i hear his twin just didnt bother - he pulled out of panel!! Now i dont want to sound negative but again Leadership comes from the top and from what i have heard over the past few months the lads have a real lack of respect for McStravick which is poor! I said on this site that players were just missing training for any excuse imagionable and they were allowed to get away with it. Now they have about 5/6 weeks to lay down a marker at training....either players want to make a go at it or just go thro the motions, but the management MUST DEMAND 100% committment or else they drop.

Syd - you have been quiet....two poor results this week, humiliated by Carey and beat by Ballycastle.........Not looking good my old friend.

Cushendall & Shamrocks had good results both in County Down. Any reports from these matches??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2007, 04:11:38 PM
Shamrocks pulled away well in the end in what was a tight game for the first 50 minutes. The County lads were out on their feet at that point, so it wasn't surprising.

It was a fairly good standard of a game with good scores from both sides, but the shamrocks were sharper throughout but didn't get the scores they should have until late on. Ray Matthews officiating fairly helps the game and he isn't afraid to tell players whats happening as he goes.

The bodies seem to have went back to a few of the more physical oldies like shrebby or whatever they call him starting in fullforward. He played a bit better out in the centre berth when moved there, but more worrying for the shamrocks was that Joey Scullion went AWOL when he was most needed. The big lad in fullback did OK on Magic who's sharp at the minute irrespective of what Noel Sands says.
Johnny Campbell is a tidy hurler but too loose for centre back IMO.
They'd a very young scrawny lad in midfield yesterday who's neat but will get lost in a more physical battle when championship time comes around.
Chopper, Oran Scullion and Joey Quinn were all playing seconds yesterday, so must be out of the reckoning with the new management at this time, but that can change.


Ballygalget are stretched at the minute with injuries and the likes. Three of our starting forwards were either injured or stagging and were a big loss as there was no one to take the burden off Magic especially when the shamrocks deployed and extra man in front of him when playing against the breeze. If only they'd done something similar against Cushendall last year they have the volunteer cup in the pound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 28, 2007, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 28, 2007, 03:34:59 PM

Syd - you have been quiet....two poor results this week, humiliated by Carey and beat by Ballycastle.........Not looking good my old friend.


We are not going well at the minute but its relatively early in the season, time to put things right. By the law of averages youse were gonna beat us sometime, i think thats the first time you have beaten us in 4 yrs so we will give you that one. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 08:55:13 AM
Liam Richmond got a broken hand last week against Rossa. Went up for a puck out and caught it (text book catch while protecting himself with the stick). The problem is he needed another hand to protect the hand he was holding the stick with. Typical Seamus Shannon - Cold and Yellow. I've never seen him put his hand up under a dropping ball in my life yet he'll sit behind and sledge and try to look like a hard man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 08:55:13 AM
Typical Seamus Shannon - Cold and Yellow. I've never seen him put his hand up under a dropping ball in my life yet he'll sit behind and sledge and try to look like a hard man.

I thought that piece of s*it had retired from hurling........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 09:54:43 AM
Very Diplomatic Syd....by the law of averages!!! Wasnt at the game but heard you lads were terrrible!!

Johhnycool - that was gud account of ur game with the shams.....in ur honest opinion do you see them any better tan any other year?? Has there management made any difference or will we expect the same heartless display come the start of October??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 09:54:43 AM
Very Diplomatic Syd....by the law of averages!!! Wasnt at the game but heard you lads were terrrible!!

I was at the game, we were brutal in 1st half, a bit better in 2nd half. 0-16 isnt bad scoring for a team that was "terrible"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 29, 2007, 10:10:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 08:55:13 AM
Liam Richmond got a broken hand last week against Rossa. Went up for a puck out and caught it (text book catch while protecting himself with the stick). The problem is he needed another hand to protect the hand he was holding the stick with. Typical Seamus Shannon - Cold and Yellow. I've never seen him put his hand up under a dropping ball in my life yet he'll sit behind and sledge and try to look like a hard man.

It'd surprise you the number of ref's who miss that sort of thing.

We'd a lad got his hand broke when batting a high ball which he managed to do, but his opponent pulled so low that he caught him on the hands. The pull had to be three feet too low yet the ref missed it and didn't give a free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:13:26 AM
Aye i will gave you that but i heard Ballycastle defence and it was criminal. They were missing there big players.....Young Hippy, Pinky and i think Ronan Donnelly. Now i cud be wrong. Have they improved or just you have gone back? Will any of you two make a run at the championship??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 29, 2007, 10:24:34 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 09:54:43 AM
Very Diplomatic Syd....by the law of averages!!! Wasnt at the game but heard you lads were terrrible!!

Johhnycool - that was gud account of ur game with the shams.....in ur honest opinion do you see them any better tan any other year?? Has there management made any difference or will we expect the same heartless display come the start of October??

Too early to say as there wasn't any real divilment in the game and that's where Loughgiele usually falter. They either get intimidated or some end up doing something stupid and getting the line.
No obvious changes to their style of play though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:35:55 AM
Fair enough comment alrite. IMO i think that if they dont deliver this year they are FINISHED!! ;D

Skull - Dunloy seem to be raking up big scores - Shane Eliiot, Gary O'Kane must be doing something right although you were very poor in Feis Cup. Who is training you this year??

Dunloy- Shane Elliot, Gary O'Kane,  trainer ??
Cushendall - Delargys Dad, trainer = McCambridge??
Ballycastle - Humpy, Dessie D, Olcan Laverty, Trainer = Michael McShane
Loughguile - Hooker Connelly, Dew McCmullan, trainer = Joe Cassidy
Glenariffe - Dominic Kearns, trainer ???
Carey - Micky Dallat, trainer = Noel Brick
Armoy - Ding Gillan

Any one know anybody else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 10:48:30 AM
Mushy, Pappy and Shane are the management team North Antrim
Quote from: johnneycool on May 29, 2007, 10:10:52 AM

It'd surprise you the number of ref's who miss that sort of thing.

We'd a lad got his hand broke when batting a high ball which he managed to do, but his opponent pulled so low that he caught him on the hands. The pull had to be three feet too low yet the ref missed it and didn't give a free.

As I've said Liams catch was text book (stick parallel to the ground) so two (MINIMUM) away from the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 10:57:58 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:35:55 AM

Glenariffe - Dominic Kearns, trainer ???

Any one know anybody else

Glemariffes manager is Raymond Mc Donnell, with Dominic Kearns & Lawrence McAllister selectors. Raymond is away in Florida with the 2 sons,Paul and Randall,so they were all missing on Sunday. Our panel size is such that if we are missing one or two players we will notice it. Cant see either team doing much damage in championship though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 11:09:33 AM
That a big miss for you lads alrite. So hand on heart Syd who will win champonship this year and why??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 11:16:04 AM
How are the Dall shaping up?? They seem to be ticking along nicely Colonel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 11:09:33 AM
That a big miss for you lads alrite. So hand on heart Syd who will win champonship this year and why??

I think Dunloy will win it, they have been the sest i have seen yet this year. Havent seen the Dall playing yet but i think the miles will catch up with them later in the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 11:46:34 AM
In fairness Syd...that was the best we've played in the past 4 years (up front anyway...we gave away scores too easy IMO), but haven't played as well since. Getting there though but we've got plenty to do before August
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 11:46:34 AM
In fairness Syd...that was the best we've played in the past 4 years (up front anyway...we gave away scores too easy IMO), but haven't played as well since. Getting there though but we've got plenty to do before August

Hopefully youse do it.....  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 29, 2007, 12:59:23 PM
Too early to predict how we'll do this year as we've been extremely stretched this year through Injuries. We have 9 on the county panel & 5 on the minor panel so it's hard at training. We're getting there slowly but surely. Odhran Scullion, Eunan McKillop are back next week. Conor Monty, Kevin Elliott & Shane McNaughton injured at the minute but we should have them back in the next few weeks

Agree about Dunloy, they'll be alot better than last two years & will challenge for Big ears again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Prob will boil down to Dunloy, Cushendall and Shamrocks.....will make for interesting stuff com september time!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 29, 2007, 02:15:26 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 29, 2007, 02:11:09 PM
dunloy and the dall to be there as winners. the bodies to choke as usual

The bodies choke in finals. If somehow both Cushendall and Dunloy falter before the final then I'd expect the bodies to have too much for anyone else even with their choking tag.

Problem is i don't see anyone else putting one over on either of the other two contenders. Maybe Ballycastle on a bog of a pitch on a real crap day!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 02:37:17 PM
Poor aul Loughgiel.........they have buit up sum reputation over the last few years ;D ;D However there is sumthin nagging away inside saying this will be there year!! Dont know wot it is but there sumthing. It wud kill me but i just had to get that off my chest!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 29, 2007, 02:46:29 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:35:55 AM
Fair enough comment alrite. IMO i think that if they dont deliver this year they are FINISHED!! ;D

Skull - Dunloy seem to be raking up big scores - Shane Eliiot, Gary O'Kane must be doing something right although you were very poor in Feis Cup. Who is training you this year??

Dunloy- Shane Elliot, Gary O'Kane,  trainer ??
Cushendall - Delargys Dad, trainer = McCambridge??
Ballycastle - Humpy, Dessie D, Olcan Laverty, Trainer = Michael McShane
Loughguile - Hooker Connelly, Dew McCmullan, trainer = Joe Cassidy
Glenariffe - Dominic Kearns, trainer ???
Carey - Micky Dallat, trainer = Noel Brick
Armoy - Ding Gillan

Any one know anybody else

Who is this Dew McMullan we speak of in the shamrocks camp?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 03:22:51 PM
Not sure think he played in Antrim team of 89. I stand to be corrected. Well Giggler your a shamrock then, you tell me! Dont deny it cos im pretty sure you are. How are things going then up in bodie land?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 29, 2007, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 29, 2007, 03:25:15 PM
loughgiel all depends on what liam watson turns up.

were you from north antrim?

North Antrim is from the land of the Lammas Fair.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 03:30:18 PM
and the aul yellow man!! Im a member but wudnt say im a die hard supporter - more a fair weather!! Dont live in the town either. Have been out of it for about 6 years.......wudnt want to say where i live now as it wud definitely give my idenity away ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 29, 2007, 03:34:03 PM
Not a shamrock, hence why I asked my last question!  :-\  I am from the sea-side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2007, 04:50:07 PM
The Ding Gillan is is over Armoy? Which Ding Gillan...not the young one?

Shame to see that that still goes on - the tackle on Liam Richmond. Absolute sc**bag would do that.
When I was on the minor county panel a good 20 minutes of a training session was dedicated to one mentor advising us to take any possible opportunity to get a man's hands...if he sticks his hand up without protection then it was open season to break his hand...and that is almost a quote.
If we were to skelp a man's hand on the stick protecting his catching hand well then no harm done.

Absolute joke. When we got down south we were stuffed off the park...and were nowhere near any of the southern teams hands to be hitting them! Great the stuff we were concentrating on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 29, 2007, 04:59:16 PM
QuoteIf we were to skelp a man's hand on the stick protecting his catching hand well then no harm done.

Sure has that not been part of the mindset in club hurling especially at minor or reserve level that even if you didn't win the match you still had to nail somebody to have something to talk about in the pub afterwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
Glensman - prob the reason why were so far behind.....our county is littered with rubbish men mascurading as coaches!!! The list is endless. Bar possibly woody & sambo i think the county minor set-up has been a total farce for years. As for underage - well sum men i see taking teams doesnt bear thinking about. Ah know they give up there time etc etc, but my word its incredible. I personally feel Humpy is the best underage coach around......He struggles with seniors but with underage where the real coaching is done he is the best about. His record with the town camogs is remarable. and believe me it is all down to his hard work and coaching. Remember there was no pedigree to start with...he takes raw talent and develops it. I feel county should employ him (go out of there way to fget him on board) as a full-time coach in the primary schools and with U-12, U-14's. I know seamus elliot was decent but his day is gone. Humpy is an absolute legend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2007, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
I know seamus elliot was decent but his day is gone. Humpy is an absolute legend

talk about downplaying what seamus has acheived coaching underage (and senior) teams over the past 30 years  :-\. I think there are more appropriate words to describe this than "decent" don't you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 30, 2007, 08:10:55 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 29, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
Glensman - prob the reason why were so far behind.....our county is littered with rubbish men mascurading as coaches!!! The list is endless. Bar possibly woody & sambo i think the county minor set-up has been a total farce for years. As for underage - well sum men i see taking teams doesnt bear thinking about. Ah know they give up there time etc etc, but my word its incredible. I personally feel Humpy is the best underage coach around......He struggles with seniors but with underage where the real coaching is done he is the best about. His record with the town camogs is remarable. and believe me it is all down to his hard work and coaching. Remember there was no pedigree to start with...he takes raw talent and develops it. I feel county should employ him (go out of there way to fget him on board) as a full-time coach in the primary schools and with U-12, U-14's. I know seamus elliot was decent but his day is gone. Humpy is an absolute legend

I'd of thought Seamus Elliott's record as a manager and a coach is second to none in Antrim and beyond. We had him down with us for a few weekends and he's as good as anyone who came through the gate and I'm including Nicky English and Johnny Dooley in that category.

As a matter of interest, who are the full time hurling coaches in Antrim? Is Seamus one of them?

In Down we've the bould John Crossey who for all his faults is a fairly good coach (poor manager) going round the primary schools, he must be able to switch vocabularies all the same :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 30, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Skull, apologies made. I accept i didnt give seamus elliot the credit he derserves. He done a brilliant job over the last 15 years with underage coaching in the county - developing many successful venture as the Indoor Leagues, Clareway and opening up Hurling to many young people than ever before. He is himself a true legend in Hurling circles. The point i was trying to make, was seamus is now getting on in years and new fresh face with plenty of ehtusiasm as Humpy would be a great ambassador for coaching in Antrim.......Would you not agree??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 11:05:42 AM
Skull would i be off the mark with this opinion of Seamus Elliott that i have heard from several people? "He wouldnt take a s*ite without looking paid" Its just something i always hear when his name comes up.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 30, 2007, 11:13:11 AM
If a club other than his own or county are looking him to do a few sessions with there seniors or wotever in the evening....do you not think he wud derserve "expenses"........i hate this idea in Antrim that you should do it for nothing. Look at it this way, if you need a plumber to fix something at your house, you would have to pay him. Now if a coach who has worked hard at developing his skills and built up a reputation, then should he not get paid to help sort out the problem at your club. Now i do agree at your own club we rely and shud expewct our own club ,men to  do it for free. It is what makes up our association. But asking outsiders - will cost "expenses"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 12:56:50 PM
Seamus is a grand fella we had him down for a few weeks 3 years ago and he took the training, brought in new tactics and he got a big response from the squad. all clubs are paying something for coaching or management so why not, if the club has it and it works out then go ahead.

In saying that, i've been out of pocket for years, but thats my choice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 30, 2007, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Syd on May 30, 2007, 11:05:42 AM
Skull would i be off the mark with this opinion of Seamus Elliott that i have heard from several people? "He wouldnt take a s*ite without looking paid" Its just something i always hear when his name comes up.......

I can vouch that the above statement is utter bollocks. He travelled down to Ballygalget two three times a week and would barely take travelling expenses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 01:04:44 PM
Is the Antrim Team on Hogan Stand correct? Simon Mc Crory corner forward  ???  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote...would barely take travelling expenses.

But he did take them then?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 30, 2007, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote...would barely take travelling expenses.

But he did take them then?!

On one instance they were threw through the window at him, so I suppose he had no other option.

Syd was giving the impression that Seamus discusses money first before 'he'd take a shite'. I can only speak from our clubs experience but obviously Syd has other experiences he'd like to share with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 30, 2007, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote...would barely take travelling expenses.

But he did take them then?!

On one instance they were threw through the window at him, so I suppose he had no other option.

Syd was giving the impression that Seamus discusses money first before 'he'd take a shite'. I can only speak from our clubs experience but obviously Syd has other experiences he'd like to share with us.

This opinion of him came from people from Dunloy and fellas that have hurled under him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 30, 2007, 01:29:47 PM

interesting, no pinky on the 15, as well as barney who deserves to play. really surprising that paddy mcgill is playing, along with simon crory. good to see tosh back starting though. instead of a big full forward line with tosh & pinky we have a small light 1. tosh only player over 22 in the forward line. lack of experience when it comes to the crunch could be a problem


I think Pinky is injured, he didnt play against us on Sunday. Cant believe Mc Crory is on. That team should beat Down but further down the line when the opposition gets tougher it wouldnt beat eggs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 30, 2007, 02:40:28 PM
very suprised to see mcrory there. unsure of reasons why barney not starting again, been most consistent player iver course of past year or so for club/county.  should still be too strong for down.  looking forward to Sunday for the triple header, although with the admission price ive heard it could keep plenty away on what could have been a bumper crowd at casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 02:42:13 PM
Richmond i think is injured, not surprised Karl Stewart has not made the team, he has not played for us this year in the league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 02:42:13 PM
Richmond i think is injured, not surprised Karl Stewart has not made the team, he has not played for us this year in the league

Milltown i know you are involved with St Galls and maybe cant comment, but what is the nature of Stewarts falling out with the hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 30, 2007, 02:53:10 PM
Some suprises on team, especially McCrory in at corner forward. Paddy McGill has been in great form over last couple of weeks for Club & has impressed at training & against Dublin. Think Paddy Richmond isnt starting as he'll not be there for the qualifiers due to his wedding. I presume Pinky is injured like Syd said. Think the likes of Paddy & McFall might be needed if the going gets tough on Sunday...as stated very young forward line.Not suprised Kettle is starting.....appartantly Sambo & Woody big fans of his.Very good hurler he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 03:12:22 PM

can't comment lads, but these things happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on May 30, 2007, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 03:12:22 PM

can't comment lads, but these things happen.

Fair enough, i would nearly go as far to say he shouldnt be involved with County if he isnt involved with club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on May 30, 2007, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Syd on May 30, 2007, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 30, 2007, 03:12:22 PM

can't comment lads, but these things happen.

Fair enough, i would nearly go as far to say he shouldnt be involved with County if he isnt involved with club.

nearly go as far syd.............He doesnt play for his club........quite simply he shouldnt be involved with the county at all.

btw.....he wouldnt be on my first team anyway, so its all irrelevent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on May 30, 2007, 03:29:21 PM
Im surprised hes with the county this year at all..................i didnt think they where going to New York this year.    ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 30, 2007, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on May 30, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Skull, apologies made. I accept i didnt give seamus elliot the credit he derserves. He done a brilliant job over the last 15 years with underage coaching in the county - developing many successful venture as the Indoor Leagues, Clareway and opening up Hurling to many young people than ever before. He is himself a true legend in Hurling circles. The point i was trying to make, was seamus is now getting on in years and new fresh face with plenty of ehtusiasm as Humpy would be a great ambassador for coaching in Antrim.......Would you not agree??

No bother NA. I think hurling would be in a far worse state if it wasn't for Seamus, although I do agree with the main point about him working at the coal face of coaching. I think he should spend his time coaching coaches....something he does very well as the colonel has said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 31, 2007, 09:53:58 AM
Im slightly worried about sundays game. Down have played 2 weeks on the bounce, have built up abit of momentum and then antrim pick a forward line with 4 lightweights - McCrory, Shields, Magil and mcManus to play against them in an Ulster Final. With all due respect could you imagine that forward line against Cork!!!! Add to that Tosh who is indeed a good player but more a loose ball player as opposed to a ball winnner, i feel we will lack a serious amount of championship bottle on Sunday. But on a positive side, at least the lads are training hard, good attendances at training, good spririt in the camp and that counts for alot. I feel it is an improvement from previous years.....suppose time will tell cos this is a results business......Pinky wasnt dropped, just not fit enough due to an old recurring Hamstring injury. He needs to get himself sorted out once and for all!

Feis Cup semi finals next week: Tuesday at McQuillans - Cushendall V Shamrocks
                                            Wednedsay @ Armoy - Carey v Ballycastle
with the finals that weekend 10th June.

Big game for both Town and shamrocks........either havent won the Feis in many a year......

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 31, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
Why do u refer to Johnny Campbell as "god"?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 31, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
Thats the first i have heard it ??? ???

I think Johnny is a good player. He is probably Loughguiles most consistent player the past 2 seasons and while i think McKeegan is a better centre back i wud stilhave him on the team either at corner or wing back.......

Colonel - wot do you think will be the outcome of feis semi finals and finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 31, 2007, 01:31:40 PM
NA- Think Ballycastle will beat Carey though will be tight enough, both teams should be well up for it as it's a local derby. The other semi is hard to call to call, could depend on what kind of teams both have out, probably we'll be missing more so maybe the bodies to go through   ;)

Good point about the Feis NA,just out of interest can anyone tell me when some-one apart from C'dall or Dunloy won the feis or when that was??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on May 31, 2007, 01:46:40 PM
Cant remember myself....think we won it 13/14 years ago.....not sure about the shams. Think they will be well up for it. we SHOULD beat carey easily enugh i wud think although they will be up for it. Depends on Pinky and Hippy being fit. Hopefully get through and save them for the final...wud be a gud way to celebrate our Centenary ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 01, 2007, 10:56:50 AM
I heard a rumour it was £18...not sure exactly.
A bit steep but will still pay it.
If you go for the 3 games its almost monies worth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 01, 2007, 01:48:22 PM
Glensman, it's £17 or £18 if you go into the stand, but £12 if your going into the terrace which is fine considering there is 3 matches as you said. Too many people just hear £18 & thats them not interested & dont do any research.

On a brighter note fair play to the county & clubs for selling around 2000 saffron sweep tickets. Great work, so hopefully the money from it & the race day will be spent wisely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 01, 2007, 03:05:32 PM
u21 hurling championship cumming up next week, who will win that?
when is there county u21 hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 01, 2007, 03:14:53 PM
was there ever a u21 county panel named? i thin i read it in the irish news one day. have these boys ever trained? if so, i think it is terrible that sambo and woody just picked a group of boys they know, an didnt give other lads an opportunity to show themselves in trials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 01, 2007, 03:21:33 PM
Play with the wind, they trained a couple of times this years & last week they played the senior's in a friendly match.

Hardstation, dont think we are certs to win U21 this year, reckon it'll be tight & Loughgiel will be strong as usual
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on June 03, 2007, 04:53:29 PM
what ya's think of todays performance  lads? thought mc crory showed well in the first half!! young shields was poor enough!! mc keegan by far man of the match!! excellent as usual!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 03, 2007, 06:03:08 PM
Well good win in what was really awful conditions, the rain in the first half was shocking. Some good performances from Antrim players, Karl & Brendan Herron in midfield, Mig mal at half back & McManus was good up front, scored 7 points from play & set up few other scores including McFall's goal & one of his points. But & A huge BUT Down were awful...really really poor but job well done for Antrim 2day. Reckon it'll be tighter on 30th June against Clare  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 03, 2007, 07:22:02 PM
Down were also poor last week against Derry, its just Derry were worse. So i could always see a tanking for Down today. We will have a better idea of where we are at against Clare, are those fixtures/venues for qualifiers confirmed yet? The Ulster Championship is getting close to becoming obsolete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 03, 2007, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 03, 2007, 08:39:20 PM
My thoughts were confirmed today. After drawing with a poor Derry side, I thought Down were going to be a heap of dung. But Jaysus, they were worse than that. The conditions were terrible but I thought that would suit Down more than Antrim (although I never expected Antrim to lose). The way Down played today, you would have thought they pulled some of the lads off the street. They were so slow about everything they did. Most of them had little or no skill. Back to basics for the Ards men. I haven't seen them as bad in years, actually ever.
Have to agree with you there Hard I never thought I would see a down team with so little fight. They just were not up for it at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 03, 2007, 09:06:46 PM
Folks the championship on BBC2....they are showing Hurling....no joke. Oh thats right the football was called off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 03, 2007, 09:27:20 PM
Just watching the championship,heard Sambo talking about the match. I didnt know gorillas could talk.......  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on June 03, 2007, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: mightysaffrons on June 03, 2007, 04:53:29 PM
what ya's think of todays performance  lads? thought mc crory showed well in the first half!! young shields was poor enough!! mc keegan by far man of the match!! excellent as usual!

Have to disagree, Karl played well, but i thought McManus was outstanding.

Have to agree with the lads, i dont think i have ever seen Down as bad as they where today,  i also thought the day would have suited the Down backs against a lightweight Antrim Attack, but far from it, Antrim played some really good hurling considering the conditions, but against Clare etc will tell a different story.

Privatepile of ****, keeps them comments to yourself you idiot.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mightysaffrons on June 04, 2007, 05:36:28 PM
he kicked one of the down boys in an off the ball thing ref was right beside it!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on June 05, 2007, 11:11:41 AM
woody and Sambo, and players, well done on sunday, keep it going. Def sharper in every way, and wee Paddy mc neill has youse in good shape.

Would be interested to get a neutral opinion just on the fitness level of this year compared to last. To my eye we look a full notch quicker/slicker, tho more needed against Southern teams.

would have a fair amount of confidence that fitness will be all round better with wee Paddy, a real wee character.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 12:23:53 PM
wee paddy is originally from rasharkin but lives in kilrea across the bann.

he took rasharkin senior footballers a couple of years ago, got to championship semi.

have to laugh because then he was totally against hurling and dual players!

he took the county footballers under mickey c.

sharp, sharp, sharp!!

they definitely did look sharp on sunday from 1 to 15.  he would have been concentrating on them lasting the distance, not like against london. finish strong.

thought the team played well as a whole, but was particularly impressed with brendy herron and big neil.
can you imagine what the down defenders were thinking when big paddy and mcfall were being brought on near the end, not bad subs to be bringing on!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2007, 12:31:21 PM
There were definitely aspects of Sunday where we looked a lot sharper. I thought movement of the ball was quicker and rather than getting bottled up players were looking to move the ball sharply.

We're still a good bit of southern teams this yearI would say. Soem of them young boys are sharp. McManus is definitely ready for senior hurling but Shields needs a few eggs first.

Down like Johnny cool says lack leaders. Johnston is a brute of a man but Mick McCambridge is a tidy full back and to be honest was never troubled. From 1 - 15 and subs antrim were well on top and to be honest it's the most convincing hammering I've seen antrim give Down. I thought Kettle,Campbell and McManus were particularly excellent.

It definitely looks to be the building blocks for a half decent team and if the club game is rectified it can only improve. Still a long way to go to compete with southern teams though. A win against Laois and a couple of respectable scorelines would be a big pluis.
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Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 05, 2007, 01:12:30 PM
what is the draw for the u21 hurling? who plays who? will all games be played with the senior footballers now playing this sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 05, 2007, 01:24:33 PM
yeah, would have to agree with those predictions.

will st johsn v st galls be played? cant see st galls playing without young mcgourty!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 06, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
Sean is the younger brother of Peat Burns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 06, 2007, 11:11:16 AM
tight enough game, thought cushendall just about deserved it in the end. remember seeing sean burns @ minor level, pretty good player, pace to burn. still under 21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 06, 2007, 11:31:46 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on June 06, 2007, 11:11:16 AM
tight enough game, thought cushendall just about deserved it in the end. remember seeing sean burns @ minor level, pretty good player, pace to burn. still under 21

Mmm........ promising underage Loughguile player, where have i heard that before???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 06, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
Last time I seen Sean's brother, Peat, he was on Fire!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 06, 2007, 11:44:17 AM
making it onto the senior panel so must be doing something right so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 06, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
Heard talk of w**ker Watson from loughgeil heading for the states...any truth in this rumour?


Can anyone copy and paste the report from last night's game Bodies v Cushendall...work doesn't let me on northantrimgaa for some reason. It does let me on antrimgaa but its not on there.
Thanks
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Post by: girt_giggler on June 06, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
A point from left-half forward Shane McNaughton in the sixth minute of injury time earned Cushendall a one point victory over Loughgiel in the semi-final of the Feis Cup Senior Hurling at Ballycastle on Tuesday evening.
The game looked set to go into extra time after Loughgiel missed a couple of chances to book their place in Sunday's final, but as the ball was cleared upfield McNaughton found space after winning possession and slotted the ball between the Loughgiel posts to give his side a narrow win.
Cushendall had always looked the most likely to advance in a tight low scoring game, and when they opened up a three point lead with just ten minutes remaining, but a goal by substitute Sean Burns, following a strong run by 'Swevy' McGarry brought the Shamrocks back on terms.
When Joey Scullion put Loughgiel ahead soon afterwards the prospects of Loughgiel appearing in a Feis final for the first time in years looked good, but Sean Delargy levelled with two minutes of normal time left, and McNaughton hit a late-late winner to book his team against Carey or Ballycastle at Feis na nGleann on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 06, 2007, 03:17:31 PM
there is more than just winker going to america, was told today a member of the county panel is flying off and very soon!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 06, 2007, 03:46:29 PM
nothing wrong with a holiday just before championship time... ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 06, 2007, 05:50:29 PM
girt - cheers for the report.

Hopefully a few one way tickets have been bought...

Not sure who it was and on what Antrim related thread it was (there are 3/4...we are taking over) that applauded those going to the states. BULLSHIT...if they take the opportunity and make this clear at the start of the year or even a month or two ago then fair enough...they are young fellas away they go but when people are relying on them they have NO right to do so.

I was actually thinking that Antrim could cause an upset in the football v Derry and maybe even give those group games a lash in the hurling...bit hard to be optimistic when you see that maybe 4 of the football and maybe even 1 of the hurling are already planning to leave.
You would never see one of the top counties allowing this to happen or maybe even closer to the point you would never see players from the top counties doing this.

Not normally one for praising this man but at least McGourty (Kevin) said a while ago he was going. He deserves credit for that...at least. Whether he would have gone if he was on the Antrim panel or not is another story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 06, 2007, 07:47:20 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 06, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
Heard talk of w**ker Watson from loughgeil heading for the states...any truth in this rumour?

I heard some L,Giel people talking at last nights match saying he was off their panel after some row. If he is for the states then thats probably what the row is about.
One thing is certain L,Giel were pretty toothless up front without him last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 08:43:25 AM
crap glens man, Gerry Mcenarney was flown home every year for Galway when they were wining all irelands. the states thing has be going on for years. wind your neck in.

and Antrim could beat Derry? we got through the first round twice in thirty years. we are currently ranked 30 out of 34 yes i'm sure the lads will give it a lash on Sunday and i'll be there cheering them on like i was last week in the rain but lets post something with a bit of realism
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2007, 09:55:23 AM
Milltown,

What are you saying - that if Antrim beat Derry boys will go to the States for a couple of weeks and fly back for the next round of the Ulster Championship????

There's a considerable difference between someone like McInerney who was based effectively year round in the States, obviously looked after himself out there and came home in the Summer for the championship and fellas who have been offered money or a jokey job to go out and play for a club in Boston and New York and go on the beer for the summer.

Now I'm not knocking the latter - its a great opportunity for lads to get away and experience something different. However, its another story when they train all year with the county, say nothing to anybody about going away and book a flight the morning after Antrim's first (and expected last) championship game.

Its an amateur game and lads are free to do what they like BUT it is (in my opinion) somewhat disloyal to their team mates and supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 08, 2007, 10:07:08 AM
Crap right back at you Milltown a bit of fecking loyalty wouldn't go amiss.
Your swayed view comes from the fact that 5/6 of your players are leaving....good on them...young bucks to go out and make a bit of money...screw it...say at the start of the year they are doing it and then let everyone be in the know.
And get your facts straight about McInerney as well. It was a different era then and as Cloot says he was based there.

AND have a bit of fecking faith in your county...its not blind optimism I go in with. Antrim have been showing quite well in training, they are takin a bit of a professional approach, things are moving in the county. I'm not getting carried away - I am just excited.

I said they "could cause an upset"...that's realism.
You wind your neck in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 11:26:46 AM
if you read my post i said nothing of the lads coming back if they beat Derry, i'm sure all the lads would stay home as they would have a great chance to play in the Ulster final. when the whistle is blown on Sunday look at the players who are going, then make your mind up if they are putting their all into it. Jody's not stupid he's putting these lads on because he thinks that these lads will give him the best chance of winning.

people are saying that they will not put the effort because they are going, rubbish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2007, 12:52:48 PM
This is the Antrim Hurling thread  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 08, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
Tony Baloney is quite right. This is the Antrim Hurling Thread........... So you Footballing Planks go get your own thread and talk about unimportant football topics. To be honest I'd rather watch paint dry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 08, 2007, 12:58:21 PM
Well said Tony...Glensman away with your foreign sports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 08, 2007, 01:03:29 PM
It started because someone said one of the hurlers was for America as well.

So you boys don't care?!

I am a dual poster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 01:28:28 PM
anyway, enough football, any reports from the league games played on wed night?

we played Rossa, won by four with Rossa getting a goal in injury time, good game with Rossa without Bell, Close and big Jim. we were missing county boys, and flynser and Gaga.
rossa started really well with a goal and 2 before 5 mins played,  they got one more during the rest of the half, were's we came back at them and led by a point at half time, we got a lucky goal, but had most of the play. second half we pulled away and were leading by 8 at one stage. good clean game, some moaning at the referee but thats always happening lately (sorry ref)

good for rossa, Hamill, kettle and cant really think who else had a good game

Karl Stewart came back and scored 10 of the 1-19 and mackers chiped in the goal and few points. thats two wins away from home on the trot for us, although both teams are having a nightmare season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 02:07:03 PM
was not at it, was playing the great Dwyer's in South antrim football. by all accounts we were hammered. not a test for the Johhnies not sure if thats the right score line though we scored 1-8 but like i say was not there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 08, 2007, 02:47:03 PM
Anyone anf thoughts on the Feis Na nGleann hurling fixtures at the weekend in Ballycastle? Starts tonight.
Friday 8th June
7.45pm Countess Of Antrim Final – Cuchullians v Ruairi Og

Saturday 9th June

4.00pm Junior Feis Hurling Shield Final – Oisin v St Marys Rasharkin

Sunday 10th June

2.00pm Mc Mullan Cup Final - Piper Parade - Mc Quillans v Shamrocks

6 00pm Minor Hurling 7 a sides Final

6 30pm Antrim Poc Fada Final Competition

7.00pm Senior Feis Hurling Cup Final – Piper Parade – Ruairi Og v Mc Quillans


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 02:50:25 PM
nothing to do with the county, problem resolved in house, all good for both parties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2007, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 01:28:28 PM
anyway, enough football, any reports from the league games played on wed night?

we played Rossa, won by four with Rossa getting a goal in injury time, good game with Rossa without Bell, Close and big Jim. we were missing county boys, and flynser and Gaga.
rossa started really well with a goal and 2 before 5 mins played,  they got one more during the rest of the half, were's we came back at them and led by a point at half time, we got a lucky goal, but had most of the play. second half we pulled away and were leading by 8 at one stage. good clean game, some moaning at the referee but thats always happening lately (sorry ref)

good for rossa, Hamill, kettle and cant really think who else had a good game

Karl Stewart came back and scored 10 of the 1-19 and mackers chiped in the goal and few points. thats two wins away from home on the trot for us, although both teams are having a nightmare season.

Was big Aidan Hamill not whinging at the ref? that man takes whinging to a whole new level altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2007, 03:26:57 PM
he whacked the manager with his stick after he told him to stop cursing, as there were children around and him being a principle and all that, well that set him off. funny though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on June 11, 2007, 08:03:08 AM
Who won the Feis Cup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 11, 2007, 08:24:45 AM
Cushendall won by 3 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2007, 08:35:25 AM
How did the Ports get on up in Dunloy yesterday evening?

We beat the johnnies handy enough on saturday something like 3-17 to 0-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 11, 2007, 09:37:32 AM
Dunloy won 3-18 to 3-8 (or something very similar)

Dunloy played terrific in the first half but conceded 3 very poor goals in the second.  Portaferry very obviously missing Braniff up front but still are a good team, the Down championship should be very close this year between the 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 11, 2007, 09:53:19 AM
McFall didn't play for Johnnies because of county friendly v Westmeath on Saturday evening. I was told that the Ballygalget/St John's match was played for double points - Antrim & Ulster leagues. Is that right?

Division 1 Hurling
 
Dunloy  3-17 3-8 Portaferry
Ballygalget  4-17 0-7 St. Johns
 
Division 1 Reserve Hurling
   
Ballygalget  0-8 3-13 St. Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 11, 2007, 10:52:55 AM
any reports from cushendall game, dont seem to see any as yet. whats was the carry on with the junior feis final???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 11, 2007, 12:30:54 PM
From North Antrim website

County champions Cushendall held off a late fightback to beat Ballycastle 2-13 to 1-13 in Sunday's Senior Hurling Final at Feis na nGleann in Ballycastle.
Played in perfect conditions in front of a sun drenched crowd Cushendall's extra bit of class and finishing ability gave them the edge as they opened up a 1-6 to 1-5 half-time lead, their goal coming from Neill McManus, while Cossy Dallas grabbed the McQuillan's major.
With man of the match Paddy McGill in superb form at midfield the Ruairis took a grip on the game in the second half and well worked goal, which was fired to the net by centre forward Brian Delargy, put them firmly in control.
Ballycastle battled until the end and were rewarded with a late Cormac Donnelly goal to bring them to within one score of the winners, but though they had a late chance to grab an equaliser the Cushendall defence held firm to add another piece of silverware to their trophy cabinet.


Was a poor enough match, think the heat might have had an effect as it was very dead throughout but Cushendall desreved to win it in the end. Paddy McGill as it says above is hurling brilliant at the minute, some of his scoretaking in last few weeks has been super. Was actually Martin Burke who scored Cushendall's second goal & not Brian Delargy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 11, 2007, 03:03:37 PM
Heard that Big Mal Molloy broke his hand lastnight against Portaferry. Is this true? Can anyone shade some light on this? Anyone from Dunloy out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 03:12:56 PM
yes i heard that the Johnnies played for both the Ulster and All county, bizzare considering they have been on complaining about not getting any games. we played Rossa twice over the week regardless of who was available. as for mcfaul not playing due to friendly, Karl stewart played for us as the game was called off, played rightly 2 scoring 1- 9

Johnnycool we play yourselves in the quarter finals of the ulster hurling league at corrigan next week, weer missing a few, some boys are away states side but well give it a rattle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 11, 2007, 03:51:11 PM
McFall was on holiday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2007, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 03:12:56 PM

Johnnycool we play yourselves in the quarter finals of the ulster hurling league at corrigan next week, weer missing a few, some boys are away states side but well give it a rattle

It's silage season at home plus with the long evenings we'll scrape together a side to give you a game as well..
8)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 05:25:11 PM
you piss taker ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 11, 2007, 05:36:29 PM
Big Mal broke bone in hand, will be out for 4 to 6 weeks.  rules him out of at least 2 liam mc carthy cup matches
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Post by: slow corner back on June 11, 2007, 09:47:29 PM
Cloney Gaels Ahoghill pulled off what must rate as the greatest shock in the history of the competition when they beat Ruairi Og Cushendall in the first round of the Under 21 Hurling Championship tonight (Monday) in Ahoghill.
County minor champions for the past two years Cushendall had two Antrim seniors in their ranks as well as four county minors.
They were many people's fancy to go all the way in this competition, but the Ahoghill boys turned the form book on its head to run out winners by 0-20 to 1-13.
Star of the show was county minor midfielder PJ O'Connell who scored an incredible twelve points of his team's total. O'Connell who played for Antrim minor hurlers and footballers in the Ulster championship this season, dominated his sector throughout.
Cushendall lead at the break by 1-7 to 0-9 but the Gaels were masters of the second half, scoring eleven points to Cushendall's six, to book a quarter-final place against Rossa.

From the county website, fair play to Clooney, no one say that coming. Makes me feel slighly better about loosing to them in the league a few weeks back, although not much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 11, 2007, 10:00:35 PM
That is simply incredible! I know what I am seeing on the county website, but my God, I still don't believe it! Fair play to Clooney Gaels, its a fantastic result! Surely it can't be a flash in the pan and they can go on to build a serious senior team over the next few years.

I'm struggling to come up with an appropriate analogy in county terms - Antrim beating Kilkenny would maybe come close!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Keyser_Soze on June 12, 2007, 08:15:01 AM
I was at the game last night (Clooney Gaels v Cushendall) and I'm not exaggerating when I say that the best team won.  Cushendall played as well as they were allowed to play and Clooney Gaels were simply brilliant all over the pitch.  It was great to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 12, 2007, 08:39:14 AM
Abolutely superb for Antrim and more specifically South West hurling.
Again someone I know was at the game who said that the best team did indeed win.
Slightly tainted (not in my eyes) by the fact that quite a few of the 'elder statesmen' from the Cushendall team were on the sauce the previous night due to the Feis Cup win. Not a great attittude and not alot of respect for Ahoghill - came back to bite them being dumped out as favourites.
Still...great work being done in Ahoghill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 12, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
thought it was a mis-print when read that result! thought cushendall would have won u21 championship never mind this game! throws it open even more.

bad news from antrims point of view with mal out for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on June 12, 2007, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 12, 2007, 08:39:14 AM
Abolutely superb for Antrim and more specifically South West hurling.
Again someone I know was at the game who said that the best team did indeed win.
Slightly tainted (not in my eyes) by the fact that quite a few of the 'elder statesmen' from the Cushendall team were on the sauce the previous night due to the Feis Cup win. Not a great attittude and not alot of respect for Ahoghill - came back to bite them being dumped out as favourites.
Still...great work being done in Ahoghill.

great result for Clooney, from what i have heard the so-called 'elder statesmen' (who are also county senior players) who where on the sauce on Sunday night where also on the sauce on Saturday night as well.  nothing to do with disrespect for ahoghill just a serious attitude.

i have heard that one of sambos young guns couldnt make it to county training on Sunday morning for this reason, maybe some C'dall posters can clarify this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 12, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
There was a full turn out at county training on sunday morning except for the ones away on Holiday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on June 12, 2007, 11:12:59 AM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 12, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
There was a full turn out at county training on sunday morning except for the ones away on Holiday.

i think you should re-check your info Bob!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 12, 2007, 11:15:39 AM
So Noname, who are you saying wasn't at training? Give me names and I'll clear it up for you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 12, 2007, 11:17:23 AM
lets not tarnish Ahoghills great performance and result by going through all this about young players on the sauce.

i was absolutely shocked to hear this result but fair fcuks to Ahoghill, hurling must really be on a high in the clooney gaels club.  

it also throws open the entire championship, i'm sure now Clooney, St Johns, Loughgiel, Dunloy & Ballycastle will all be in with a great shout.  maybe even a few more of the belfast clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 12, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
Wasnt at the game my my reaction was the same as Hardstation's. Have to admit a huge shock, one that probably bring a big(unhappy)reaction in Cushendall. Well apparantly Ahoghill were fully deseving of their victory, so fair play to them & wish them all the best for the rest of the championship.

Suppose you have to ask serious questions of the attitude of our players, drink or no drink, though obviously you shouldnt be drinking the night before a championship match, its obvious they thought they just had to turn up & win & i'm afraid Hurling isnt like that.Hopefully it works for us the same way the defeat to Lamh Dearg did last year.

N0-name didnt even realise the county were training on Sunday morning, so cant confirm that. On this point I dont think the county players should have to train when they have a match later than night....hardly fair on them or their clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 12, 2007, 01:15:45 PM
From Hoganstand

'Following a meeting of the Central Hearing's Committee in Croke Park on Monday night (11th June), it was decided that suspensions in respect of Clare players Barry Nugent, Alan Markham, Andrew Quinn and Colin Lynch, and Cork's Sean Og O hAilpin, Diarmuid O Sullivan and Donal Og Cusack be imposed.

The four week suspensions, arising out of incidents on the occasion of the Guinness Munster Hurling Championship quarter final game between Clare and Cork, will include the next game in the competition (even if that game falls outside the suspension time period) and are the minimum provided for in Rule for the relevant infractions.'

would i be right in saying that clare's next game is in casement against Antrim.

Does that give us a realistic chance of reaching the all ireland quater finals.  The draw could not have been much kinder to antrim, had they been playing clare away and galway at home i would have said no chance of going through.  but a home match against a clare team in disaray, lacking all the leaders of the great clare team and now down 4 of their best performers against cork, is winnable as is Laois at home...

As the irish news said, maybe the revolution has begun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 12, 2007, 01:25:25 PM
QuoteAs the irish news said, maybe the revolution has begun

Again?!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 13, 2007, 11:24:27 AM
The Hurling Tables used to be on the web site but I can't find them anywhere. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 13, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
Tables are still there Guillem - click ether Fixtures or Results on the county site - takes you to esport then tables is an option on the left menu - sub menus popup and you can find leagues there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 13, 2007, 02:45:43 PM
They won't open for me aontroim. Any chance of you posting them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 13, 2007, 03:00:33 PM
Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Dunloy  5 5 0 0 147 67 80 10
Loughgiel Shamrocks  5 5 0 0 89 55 34 10
Ballygalget  6 4 1 1 116 82 34 9
Portaferry  5 4 1 0 91 76 15 8
Ballycastle  6 3 2 1 104 85 19 7
Cushendall  5 2 1 2 89 59 30 6
St. Galls  6 2 3 1 86 98 -12 5
Glenariff  6 2 4 0 102 121 -19 4
St. Johns  3 1 2 0 59 62 -3 2
Rossa  4 1 3 0 57 80 -23 2
Lamh Dhearg  4 0 3 1 44 86 -42 1
Ballycran  4 0 4 0 42 63 -21 0
Sarsfields  5 0 5 0 51 143 -92 0

DIV 1 RESERVE

Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Loughgiel Shamrocks  3 2 0 1 65 32 33 5
Cushendall  3 2 0 1 67 40 27 5
Portaferry  2 2 0 0 39 22 17 4
Dunloy  1 1 0 0 18 6 12 2
St. Johns  2 1 1 0 32 22 10 2
St. Galls  1 1 0 0 11 9 2 2
Ballycastle  3 1 2 0 33 48 -15 2
Ballycran  4 0 4 0 39 73 -34 0
Ballygalget  3 0 3 0 15 67 -52 0

DIV 2

Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Shane O Neills  5 4 0 1 103 55 48 9
Carey Faughs  5 4 1 0 111 72 39 8
Gaeil Chluana  5 4 1 0 87 75 12 8
Tir na Nog  5 3 2 0 88 85 3 6
Glenravel  5 2 2 1 59 63 -4 5
St. Pauls  5 2 3 0 89 73 16 4
Gort Na Mona  3 2 1 0 35 27 8 4
Cushendun  4 1 3 0 46 83 -37 2
Rasharkin  5 1 4 0 62 121 -59 2
Armoy  6 0 6 0 76 102 -26 0

Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
St. Teresas  4 4 0 0 110 42 68 8
Ardoyne  5 3 1 1 81 68 13 7
Ballymena  4 3 1 0 87 47 40 6
St. Agnes  4 3 1 0 76 39 37 6
Cloughmills  3 3 0 0 75 40 35 6
St. Endas  4 3 1 0 82 50 32 6
Davitts  5 3 2 0 78 67 11 6
St. Pauls 2 3 1 1 1 45 50 -5 3
Sarsfields 2 6 1 4 1 83 115 -32 3
Larne  3 1 2 0 36 49 -13 2
Creggan Gaels  3 1 2 0 55 71 -16 2
Bredagh  4 1 3 0 53 87 -34 2
O Mitchel Og  5 0 4 1 44 107 -63 1
Na fuiseoig  5 0 5 0 29 102 -73 0
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 13, 2007, 03:01:24 PM
sorry thats abit messed up looking, just a copy & paste job. but you get the picture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 13, 2007, 03:14:08 PM
Cheers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 13, 2007, 03:41:56 PM
Try the direct links G2....

DIVISION 1 TABLE (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?leaguetable=1&report=1&reporttype=results&compid=3674&countyid=1&club_id=&sportid=1)

DIVISION 2 TABLE (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?leaguetable=1&report=1&reporttype=results&compid=3675&countyid=1&club_id=&sportid=1)

DIVISION 3 TABLE (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?leaguetable=1&report=1&reporttype=results&compid=3676&countyid=1&club_id=&sportid=1)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 13, 2007, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 12, 2007, 01:15:45 PM
From Hoganstand

'Following a meeting of the Central Hearing’s Committee in Croke Park on Monday night (11th June), it was decided that suspensions in respect of Clare players Barry Nugent, Alan Markham, Andrew Quinn and Colin Lynch, and Cork’s Sean Og O hAilpin, Diarmuid O Sullivan and Donal Og Cusack be imposed.

The four week suspensions, arising out of incidents on the occasion of the Guinness Munster Hurling Championship quarter final game between Clare and Cork, will include the next game in the competition (even if that game falls outside the suspension time period) and are the minimum provided for in Rule for the relevant infractions.'


Does that give us a realistic chance of reaching the all ireland quater finals.  The draw could not have been much kinder to antrim, had they been playing clare away and galway at home i would have said no chance of going through.  but a home match against a clare team in disaray, lacking all the leaders of the great clare team and now down 4 of their best performers against cork, is winnable as is Laois at home...

As the irish news said, maybe the revolution has begun

The disaray in clare will have one of two effects. Either A) hopefully the players will be sickened by the county boards attitude to the team and manager, be totally disintrested and roll over or B) the team will adopt an us against the world seige mentality, tear into Antrim from the first minute and blow our youngsters away physically.
Obviously I hope its A that happens but don,t book any trips to croke park yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 13, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
I think people are getting a bit carried away,i would think we are still 7-8 pts behind Clare. I think people are being seduced by the hammering we gave the worst Down team i have seen. Dont forget what went before earlier in the year. I hope Clare arrive with their morale in tatters but i have a feeling they will come up and try and knock the shit out of us. We cant forget where we are in the pecking order, Clare were castigated in the media after their performance against Cork, they were beaten by 8 i think. Can you see the current Antrim team getting within 8 pts of Cork?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2007, 10:54:12 PM
Syd there you go with the negativity again! You need to start rowing behind the team and support the hurling revolution in Antrim :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on June 14, 2007, 08:12:18 AM
Syd, the way you go on anybody would think you wanted Antrim to get beaten!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 15, 2007, 12:18:39 PM
Thing some of the U/L quarter finals are on. apart from that cant see much else apart from this:

Liam McGarry Cup

Liam McGarry Cup will be held at Fr Healy Pk, Loughgiel this Sat 16th & Sun 17th June.

Semi-Finals - Sat 16th

Dunloy(Antrim) V Tynagh-Abbey-Duniry(Galway) (Liam Hodgins & Kevin Broderick's team) (18.00PM).

Loughgiel(Antrim) V Ballybalget(Down) (19.30PM).

Final on Sunday 17th at 14.00PM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 15, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 15, 2007, 11:54:29 AM
good local derby this weekend, the dall v glenariffe, surely cushendall must bounce back from the shock under 21 defeat on monday

what other games are on?

Colonel, any idea how your pitch is holding up with all the rain? Cushendalls pitch cannot usually take too much rain before it becomes unplayable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 15, 2007, 02:46:33 PM
Syd don't be using the rain as an excuse to get at the lash this weekend. As Roy Castle (RIP) once sang "dedication is all you need"!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 15, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
the wanderer returns!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 15, 2007, 03:50:12 PM
I think the Dall is pretty sandy so it should ship any heavy rain better than most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 15, 2007, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 15, 2007, 03:50:12 PM
I think the Dall is pretty sandy so it should ship any heavy rain better than most.

It gets very soft with a bit of rain, a bit like your head Tony.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 17, 2007, 10:10:14 PM
In watching todays Waterford v Cork game it shows how far Antrim are away from that level of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 18, 2007, 12:45:08 AM
Quote from: PrivatePile on June 17, 2007, 10:10:14 PM
In watching todays Waterford v Cork game it shows how far Antrim are away from that level of hurling.

Absoloutly. If Antrim can get in with ten points of Clare I will be delighted. You just have to see how poor the County final was this year to realise these are most of our best players and the standard was poor over all. Antrim Hurling at club level has been so badly negleted for so long, that the standard has slipped. Hoping now that new structures with in the County will guarentee regular games for everyone and with practice the standard should start to rise. The madness of canceling games because of County comitments done serious damage to Antrim Hurling. Believe it or not Galway underachieve for the exact same reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2007, 08:08:17 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 18, 2007, 12:45:08 AM
Antrim Hurling at club level has been so badly negleted for so long, that the standard has slipped. Hoping now that new structures with in the County will guarentee regular games for everyone and with practice the standard should start to rise. The madness of canceling games because of County comitments done serious damage to Antrim Hurling. Believe it or not Galway underachieve for the exact same reason.

Been saying this for years Baile an Tuaigh. The worst thing about having this opinion is you soon realise that not many people share it. There must be a lot of lower division contributers here who have no idea how bad the div 1 leagues fixtures have been for nigh on 17 years (yes Jim Nelson started it and the rest of them have been doing the same since) and who just showed up at casement every year and wondered why we've been so bad

Two fantastic games  at the weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 18, 2007, 09:45:39 AM
Well Noname i was at the match and i think its a bit much to blame it all on the Glenariffe players. Tosh was harshly sent off, the other Glenariffe player probably deserved to go but was hit first by our current County captain, (he was in with the sneaky digs on several occasions) So if you are going to apportion blame do it fairly.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 18, 2007, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Noname on June 18, 2007, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: PrivatePile on June 18, 2007, 09:45:39 AM
Well Noname i was at the match and i think its a bit much to blame it all on the Glenariffe players. Tosh was harshly sent off, the other Glenariffe player probably deserved to go but was hit first by our current County captain, (he was in with the sneaky digs on several occasions) So if you are going to apportion blame do it fairly.....

he then got booked for a bad pull across a player not even close to the ball. - explain please.

He actually hit the ball, and Ray Matthews admitted as much afterwards so hopefully that serves as an explanation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:27:09 PM
Who won the Liam McGarry cup at the weekend - heard that Dunloy made it to the finals.
Assume Loughgeil joined them?

Good match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 03:41:38 PM
whats the craic with the threads? confusing ???

no hurling this weekend are the county boys having challenge games this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 04:03:29 PM
loughgiel should win but will get it tough on the wee pitch, esp. if it rains. Johnnies will get it a lot tougher than they did from us, tight hard to call. dunloy too much for Sarsfields the paddies have a lot of good players coming through.
and finally rossa v Clooney Gaels should be a good game. we went down a number of years ago and beat Cushendall in the under 21 Championship then went out in the next round to St Pauls so they would need to get their heads right otherwise they could fall into that trap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 19, 2007, 06:28:19 PM
Hopefully Dunloy's scare v St Theresa's will waken them up.
And hopefully Clooney Gaels wasn't just a flash in the pan.

Predictions:
Dunloy by 10
Loughgeil by 5
Clooney by 3
St Johns by 6 (is Hippy Donnelly still carrying an injury??...have yet to see him in the flesh but he's meant to be some prospect).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 19, 2007, 06:50:02 PM
Young Hippy has been carrying an injury for a few weeks now. He still turns out for some games but does not look fully fit. He is indeed a fine prospect when fully fit. I think that Neil McAuley is still U-21 as is Simon McCrory for St Johns, will these guys be allowed to play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 20, 2007, 02:29:40 PM
If they are not allowed to play I think it is an abolsute joke.
The Antrim game is a week and a half away.

That would rule out Paul Shields of Dunloy and maybe a few others through the competition.

Fair enough calling off the senior games this weekend but to go down as far as under 21 - to stop championship matches getting played (when the competition is normally not given much support anyway) would be a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 20, 2007, 04:40:24 PM
County team were meant to train on Thursday nite but changed it to friday nite due to U21 match which was fair enough. I think the country are playing Wexford this weekend in a friendly...does anyone know if that is up here or in Wexford

Our match against Dunloy called off & re-arranged for a few weeks later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 21, 2007, 09:40:16 AM
fair enough of the senior managers for not calling off last nights league matches and allowing the u21 to go ahead tonight, this is the way it should be but over the last few years county managers have been looking weeks before games.

Dunloy beat lamh dearg 1:22 to 1:8, good result against a decent team in testing conditions.  Lamh Dearg really shot themselves in the foot with the sending off of their full back at end of first half.  also dissapointed with the play acting of some lamh dearg players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 21, 2007, 10:25:34 AM
yes max had a guy at the match, said that Lamhs had you's tied up in the first half. Micko was pulling the strings. although raymy got himself sent off, no surprise there then. some heavy pulling by the lamhs was there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 21, 2007, 11:27:16 AM
aye indeed there was some rough enough play. if they had stuck at the hurling they were doing well enough.  though in the first half we were hurling against a very stiff wind and the scores were level when raymie got sent off so i would still have expected us to go on and win,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 21, 2007, 11:59:25 AM
I see that Dublin beat Wexford by a point and Offaly beat Kilkenny in the other Leinster under 21 semi-final. Apparently, Leinster play Ulster this year in the semi final. Any word on how our under 21s are shaping up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 21, 2007, 12:23:28 PM
Cloot, you'll be happy with Dublin result?? 

Dont know if U21's are doing much as a team, but alot of U21's on the senior panel. Hopefully an improved performance in semi final than last couple of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 21, 2007, 02:54:43 PM
Happy Exile only in the sense that any Antrim team will not have the same psychological issues with either Dublin or Offaly that they woud with Wexford or, in particular, Kilkenny!!!

Mind you, its great to see the improvement in hurling in Dublin - there are large areas of the place now where on any given evening you can expect to see kids out with sticks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 22, 2007, 10:51:45 AM
Ballycastle and Rossa lucky to be through i hear - Johnnies should have done enough after a good comeback to win, but the Town managed a couple of points and late goal at the death to snatch it.

Same story for Rossa - were never in the lead the whole game until a scrappy goal with the last puck of the game.

Was surprised that Gort na Mona didn't put up a bit more resistance, but not surprised by the Dunloy result at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 22, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
Ballycastle v Loughgiel final i would think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 22, 2007, 01:38:17 PM
In reply to all of this pessimistic stuff about the standard of Antrim hurling. I have to say that there have been a lot of possitive develoments over the past few years. The strides made by the minors in the last couple of years is one thing, but there is assolutely no doubt that standards have risen in Div 2 and 3 and the emergence of Clooney Gaels, Cloughmills etc have been excellent developments. Also, Randalstown, Carey Faughs and Glenarm have improved significantly over the past couple of years and good strides are being made in the city too, especially at St John's, but also at St Galls, St Agnes, Sarsfields and St Theresa's, with Rossa also showing some signs of recovering their previous lofty status in Antrim hurling circles.

I have seen all of these clubs play in the past 12 months and in my opinion, there is now a far greater spread of hurling talent in Antrim than ever before.

Always look on the bright side!

   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 22, 2007, 02:14:58 PM
very very competitive IHC this year. personally i would have it between st pauls/carey, but also got glenarm, glenravel, cushendun (depending whos playing come championship) etc in there too.

junior championship i know less about but i would say between st endas/cloughmills/mcdermotts/rasharkin.

just realising ive forgot to mention Ahoghill here, cant remember which Championship they are in, i assume Intermediate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2007, 08:22:28 PM
Any word how the hurlers got on against Wexford?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on June 23, 2007, 08:48:32 PM
Got beat by 10 points!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 24, 2007, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on June 23, 2007, 08:48:32 PM
Got beat by 10 points!!

f**k that does not bode too well,Wexford only beat Dublin by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 24, 2007, 02:37:25 PM
Dont read too much into challenge matches, in most of them neither side is at full strength or going anywhere near 100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 24, 2007, 09:19:30 PM
Had heard that due to big Mal's broken hand, Neal McAuley was being lined up to take over at No. 5, but was told today that he also broke his hand in the U21 game on Friday night! Bad luck usually comes in 3's so who's the last to get crocked?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Syd on June 24, 2007, 10:38:25 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 24, 2007, 02:37:25 PM
Dont read too much into challenge matches, in most of them neither side is at full strength or going anywhere near 100%.

You cant have it both ways, if we had of beaten Wexford it would be talked up to the hilt & how well we are going......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 25, 2007, 01:52:43 PM
Syd you need to speak to someone about all your negative energy. Did no one hug you as a child?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 25, 2007, 03:18:31 PM
Wexford scored 3 soft goals, that was the difference in the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 25, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
Anybody actually at the Wexford match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 25, 2007, 04:43:04 PM
the defence was not dung, just a couple a of bad mistakes at the wrong time. Overall the full back line played will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 25, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
I hear one half of the S & W tandem was mouthing off after their club beat a neighbour in a recent league match and he got a box in the face for his troubles......One of the Antrim managers fighting in public.....Tut Tut
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 26, 2007, 08:22:36 AM
anyone know that starting XV against wexford from the weekend there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 09:15:27 AM
Starting 11 -
1. Ryan McGarry
2. Arron Graffin
3. Kieran Kelly
4. Sean Delargy
5. Michael McCambridge
6. Johny Campbell
7. Ciaran Herron
8. Karl McKeegan
9. Berndan Herron
10. Patrick McGill
11. Neil McManus
12. Michael Herron
13. Johny Tosh
14. Simon McCrorry
15. Brian McFall

Half - Time subs - Shane McNaughton for Johny Tosh & Paul Shields for Brian McFall
Second Half subs - Barney McAuley for Ciaran Herron (Arron Graffin moves to wing half, McAuley to the corner) & (McCambridge switch with Johny Campbell)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 09:28:47 AM
Balboa, are you going to elaborate on this affair or are you just going to spread little bits of false information just to disrupt the preparations for the big match this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 26, 2007, 10:05:24 AM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 09:28:47 AM
Balboa, are you going to elaborate on this affair or are you just going to spread little bits of false information just to disrupt the preparations for the big match this weekend?


I will elaborate if you want,when Cushendall beat Glenariffe the weekend before last he was shooting his mouth off to the wrong person about it and got a box in the face. Simple as.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Noname on June 26, 2007, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: Balboa on June 26, 2007, 10:05:24 AM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 09:28:47 AM
Balboa, are you going to elaborate on this affair or are you just going to spread little bits of false information just to disrupt the preparations for the big match this weekend?


I will elaborate if you want,when Cushendall beat Glenariffe the weekend before last he was shooting his mouth off to the wrong person about it and got a box in the face. Simple as.

Well done balboa, did someone show you how to use a pc, it took you all this time to register on this site, just to post that, you really are a wonderful person. why not go back into your hole where you came from.

ps from what i hear he and anybody else from Cdall where well within their right to mouth about a team who had no interest in hurling that day.

whats everybodies views on the match this weekend, what team will start, how will we do. etc etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 26, 2007, 10:33:20 AM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 09:15:27 AM
Starting 11 -
1. Ryan McGarry
2. Arron Graffin
3. Kieran Kelly
4. Sean Delargy
5. Michael McCambridge
6. Johny Campbell
7. Ciaran Herron
8. Karl McKeegan
9. Berndan Herron
10. Patrick McGill
11. Neil McManus
12. Michael Herron
13. Johny Tosh
14. Simon McCrorry
15. Brian McFall

Half - Time subs - Shane McNaughton for Johny Tosh & Paul Shields for Brian McFall
Second Half subs - Barney McAuley for Ciaran Herron (Arron Graffin moves to wing half, McAuley to the corner) & (McCambridge switch with Johny Campbell)

Starting 11???  count again big bob ;).

interesting to see Karl McKeegan playing, i thought he was a big doubt for saturday & was struggling to be fit. surely if this was the case he wouldn't have been risk at weekend there.  but good news if, as it seems, he will make it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 26, 2007, 10:55:33 AM
Did Kettle get the chop? I thought he was doing rightly at the minute. I thought that particular little story was in the public domain, can you imagine Brian Cody brawling in the pubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 11:02:21 AM
Sorry about that, I meany starting 15 - watching too much Football!!!!
Balboa, you still haven't elaborated on it -Who was involved? What was being said? Where did it happen? I live in Cushendall and heard nothing about it, which it pretty hard as its such a small place you can't miss anything.
~Kettle did not get the chop, he is injured, along with Big Mal and Neal McAuley
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 26, 2007, 11:46:56 AM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 11:02:21 AM
Sorry about that, I meany starting 15 - watching too much Football!!!!
Balboa, you still haven't elaborated on it -Who was involved? What was being said? Where did it happen? I live in Cushendall and heard nothing about it, which it pretty hard as its such a small place you can't miss anything.
~Kettle did not get the chop, he is injured, along with Big Mal and Neal McAuley

Sambo and a bad tempered gent from Glenariffe were involved, i heard about it from someone in Ballycastle and someone from Glenariffe verified it. I hadnt heard anything about it either until i asked people about it. The story is Sambo was mouthing after the Cushendall v Glenariffe game and Kearns hit him, i dont know where it happened but i will find out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 26, 2007, 11:52:15 AM
I haerd about this from a few people, i heard Sambo came round blocked to Waterfoot looking for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 11:57:35 AM
Thats really big news!!!!!! So what if he did? People have their own private lives to lead. As long as he gives his all to the development and advancement of antrim hurling who cares what else he does. At the end of the day he is not getting paid for the job and he is not under contract.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 26, 2007, 12:19:22 PM
I dont think Sambo & Kearns were fighting...they are pretty friendly. They were standing talking in our clubrooms after that match. Later that nite....a young fella from Cushendall(he doesnt hurl any more) was slabbering to Sambo, think Sambo was getting pretty angry, he went to the toilets & came back, the young fella was lying on the floor cos he then started on Kearns...wrong move. Maybe I'm wrong but thats what I heard

I also Heard Sambo & someone from Glenariffe were arguing that night but dont think they were boxing.

Anyway back to Hurling...Karl will be ok for Saturday...so Kettle out then??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2007, 02:06:20 PM
Although young Graffin is a good prospect it's pretty harsh to have him in front of Barney McAuley I'd have thought??

McAuley was near enough the best player last year. Clearly not a favourite of Sambo and Woody's though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2007, 02:35:38 PM
ROE are you saying the manager of the Antrim hurling team assaulted a member of the public in the toilets of his own pub?!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 26, 2007, 03:39:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2007, 02:06:20 PM
Although young Graffin is a good prospect it's pretty harsh to have him in front of Barney McAuley I'd have thought??

McAuley was near enough the best player last year. Clearly not a favourite of Sambo and Woody's though.

was thinking the exact same myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 03:48:24 PM
ROE is saying that 'S' went to the toilet and the other guy hit the other guy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2007, 03:52:01 PM
Ah right I'm finding all this a bit confusing. Seems to be a mountain out of a molehill anyway. I'm sure the same was happening the country over after various matches!

I reckon Antrim could run Clare fairly close. Within 5 points would be a step in the right direction. I'd be shocked if they won though.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 26, 2007, 04:23:43 PM
If Antrim get it right I think it will be an excellent match, and I honestly think Antrim could nick it by 3 or 4 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2007, 08:41:42 AM
Are Antrim really up to the intensity that has been shown in the games that have been played recently in the Munster Championship? I've yet to see Antrim ever play to that level and I've been watching more than a few years.  The closest (in recent years) was the Wexford game. Even with the four players missing Antrim will still find this game to be at a different level to what they have experienced.

I hope Antrim get the crowds for the game to roar them on. Watching the recent games the attendances have been great I just hope we don't have an empty Casement park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
Team announced: -

Ryan Mc Garry
Arron Graffin
Kieran Kelly
Sean Delargy
Michael Mc Cambridge
Johnny Campbell
Ciaran Herron
Karl Mc Keegan
Brendan Herron
Paddy Mc Gill
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Herron
Shane Mc Naughton
Johnny Mc Intosh
Paul Shiels

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 27, 2007, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
Team announced: -

Ryan Mc Garry
Arron Graffin
Kieran Kelly
Sean Delargy
Michael Mc Cambridge
Johnny Campbell
Ciaran Herron
Karl Mc Keegan
Brendan Herron
Paddy Mc Gill
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Herron
Shane Mc Naughton
Johnny Mc Intosh
Paul Shiels



A very heavy Cushendall contingent!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on June 27, 2007, 09:19:05 AM
Is that Shane Mc Naughton's first senior start?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 09:19:54 AM
Not far off expected I suppose with maybe Shane McNaughton the only real surprise.

Agree about Barney being one of the most consistent over the past couple of years but I suppose its plain and simple and comes down to pace. What Antrim may lack in the finesse of some hurlers we can hopefully hide with speed.

Glad to see both and Mickey McCambridge and Pinky back in what I think are their best positions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 27, 2007, 09:28:05 AM
Shane Mc Naughton???? Nepotism???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 27, 2007, 09:37:11 AM
And what if there is a very heavy Cushendall contingent. Young Graffin has been one of the best, if not the best Defender on show in the Antrim Leagues this year. Also Shane McNaughton has continually trained hard and played well for his club, tackles hard and can take a score. His work rate is great. A current county defender even made the comment that he hates marking shane more than any other player, cause he never lets the man get away easy. Lets get behid the lads and push them onto victory. At the end of the day, its not a team of 15, it a panel of 30 players who all stand together to become a great team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 10:46:31 AM
Anyone at the Loughgiel v Cushendall Darragh Cup game the other night? just after reading on the north antrim site about abit of shenanigans going on.  anyone any details?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2007, 11:50:12 AM
johnneycool, we have been very generous about the Ulster hurling quarter final and reserve league match. i hope we get some free tickets for drinks afterwards :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 27, 2007, 12:20:03 PM
Girt. I was at it. Cushendall were down two points in injury time with a free 30 or 40 yards out to drop in to try & get a goal to win. A bit of scuffle broke out in the square, a argument broke out between a Loughgiel spectator & a umpire from Cushendall. The loughgiel spectator was telling the young shamrocks to lay the stick into the b******d's, the cushendall umpire took offence to these comments, they started arguing..then the umpire ran out of the pitch & chased after the spectator & a fight broke out..... Not a very pretty scene & not good behaviour

Cushendall hit the free wide  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 01:18:44 PM
big shame and doesnt paint a pretty picture for antim hurling. worst of it is, it was a minor match, so adults getting pysical like this in what was a 'kids' match after all.

sounds like neither side are blame-less, but ye can hardly blame the cushendall chap from whacking the slabber if that kind of abuse was aimed at you. no-one would accept it on the street, no difference if same happens at a match or anywhere else.

first thing that sprung to my mind was why was there a cushendall (and i assume also loughgiel) persons doing umpire?  why not neutral considering it was a championship match, albeit it a North Antrim one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on June 27, 2007, 01:37:54 PM
and tony what would you know? you call them cowardly b$@tard from behind a computer with a false name???? makes sense!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 27, 2007, 02:01:09 PM
Quote from: waawaa on June 27, 2007, 01:37:54 PM
and tony what would you know? you call them cowardly b$@tard from behind a computer with a false name???? makes sense!!

Waawaa, you go and find anyone on this board that is posting under their real name, would be interested to hear your results. On the subject of Loughguile supporters, lets just say they have previous...attacking Billy Reid after a match etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 02:21:14 PM
Umpire was completely justified in what he did I reckon. Not the best example but what kind of sc**bag says that at minor matches with children running about...arguably the kind of sc**bag who will grow up and hit dirty slaps.

Its not just Loughgeil of course...several clubs have previous but Loughgeil are certainly up there.
It would actually maybe have been good for Antrim if Loughgeil had've won one of their county finals but every time it comes round to that time of year its hard to forget a certain element of their fans - you couldn't love some of them if you reared them...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 27, 2007, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 27, 2007, 11:50:12 AM
johnneycool, we have been very generous about the Ulster hurling quarter final and reserve league match. i hope we get some free tickets for drinks afterwards :P

Sent you a PM Milltown, it seems the wheels are already in motion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on June 27, 2007, 02:35:37 PM
sh1t i can just see you 2 at the bar - some sense being talked there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 02:45:02 PM
i like beer. anyone for casement on sat fancy pre match drinks? a board meet-up!  lots of sense being talked there, and that would be before alcohol consumption
Title: Darragh Cup
Post by: McCracken on June 27, 2007, 03:11:39 PM
Gents,

I am and will always be a Loughguile man. I have been involved in the past with our seniors and in the end had to step back due to Family commitments. During my time involved, both myself and my colleagues were, on more than a few occasions, on the wrong side of our fellow parishioner who was involved in the incident the other night. I would have to say that because of some of the things that he has come out with in the past, I have little or no respect for the man, and to be honest I can see exactly why someone would like to smack him.

However, Also in my time, I have been jeered, taunted, spat on and even kicked by players and officials of the opposition. I am proud to say that even with all this I have never got involved. Its something that we should not do or condone. To me this is and shall always remain to be the greatest game on earth, and whilst we will always have a few loudmouths in each of our clubs, we should always remember that as fellow Gaels we should be able to keep the fierce rivalry on the feld and shake hands afterwards. You win some you lose some, but every dog will have his day.

I was at the match the other night, and it was a cracker. Even with the sendings off, both deservedly, the game had everything. The scuffle was something that shouldnt have happened, but its over and done with, lets move on. I'm sure that the Dall will give us that one if they get one over on us again later in the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on June 27, 2007, 03:36:10 PM
and tony what would you know? you call them cowardly b$@tard from behind a computer with a false name? makes sense!!


Waawaa, you go and find anyone on this board that is posting under their real name, would be interested to hear your results. On the subject of Loughguile supporters, lets just say they have previous...attacking Billy Reid after a match etc.


My young friend I was meerly trying to make a point to Mr Ba-low-me. I know this is a site were fake identities are the done thing but I am trying to emphasis the point that he is stereotyping all loughgiel people in his comment and not just the so-called 'supporters'. Loughgiel, like any club, have there element of supporters who give their club a bad name......just look at the previous posts on a local derby game played not so long ago....was this game not tinted with supporter abuse?? But they also have their die-hard supporters who give their commitment to the players and mentors and have nothing but encouragment for their team!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 27, 2007, 04:10:36 PM
McCracken, I agree yous deserved to win on Monday & I hope our boys do get one back on yous later on this year. 5 Darragh Cups(a very important cup for Cushendall) was good going. The scenes werent good but it was over pretty quickly thank God.

Anyway back to Hurling..what are the chances for Saturday..I would reallly love Antrim to win but I just cant see it I'm afraid. Training seems to be going very well at present. Hopefully a big attendace at the match should help the boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on June 27, 2007, 05:14:57 PM
Ruairi Og Exile, It would be nice to see Antrim do well ok, but If i'm being honest I cant see it, and I'm really sorry to say I dont really care. I've gone to the south too many times full of hope, decked out in my colours and found myself sat beside people from the big counties looking down their noses at me because I was from Antrim. They pissed me off before a ball was ever hit and then we failed to perform.

I would however really like to see club games back to the good old days where there were meaningful senior and reserve matches every Sunday throughout the summer. Despite every clubs usual bad apples, there is generally good will between most clubs, and a fantastic level of rivalry. There is simply no substitute for the feeling you get when your club does well. It s also particularly shitty when you lose 4 Championship finals in a row, but thats the way it goes. Is is never someones turn, you just have to go and win it!!

Cant see me making it to the match on Sunday, but will be willing them on quietly from Loughguile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2007, 06:01:42 PM
Why has this thread not been bumped to the Hurling Discussion board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 27, 2007, 06:11:50 PM
I hear you McCracken - I've been that soldier too. Don't know how many Antrim games I've gone to that have been a disaster from a start to finish. Games where I've driven 200 miles and known after 5 minutes that the next 55 or 65 were going to be serious one way traffic against us and the onlu issue was how bad the beating was going to be. Games where in the pub afterwards friends from other counties have chosen to say nothing rather than sound patronising. Mind you, got plenty of patronising too!

But fcuk it anyway, another year has gone and here I am again the week before Clare and the oul heart is cranking up again and the mindless optimism is kicking in and I'm spouting nonsense to anyone who will listen to me.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

I don't care what anyone else thinks of us - what Ulster's footballing counties think of our lack of success - what the big teams "down south" really think of us - what the pundits on the tv and in the papers say.

It's our game and our team are going out to represent us in it. They are wearing our colours and as such, they are deserving of our respect and support.

So Casement here we come.

It has to be our day, some day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 27, 2007, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on June 27, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
Team announced: -

Ryan Mc Garry
Arron Graffin
Kieran Kelly
Sean Delargy
Michael Mc Cambridge
Johnny Campbell
Ciaran Herron
Karl Mc Keegan
Brendan Herron
Paddy Mc Gill
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Herron
Shane Mc Naughton
Johnny Mc Intosh
Paul Shiels



Looks like sambo and woody think that speed is our best option. I am not so sure if our young players will be able to cope with the level of intensity that clare will bring to the game. I hope I am wrong but our team looks physically very light. Personally I would have had McCrory, McFall and Barney McAuley on but then again I was an average hurler and an even worse manager. Saturday will tell the tale, Ill be there cheering anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 27, 2007, 07:32:52 PM
Not sure about Graffin at corner back, he is a good talent but i think this may be a bit early for him. He is also lacking in a bit of pace, i am trying to be constructive here but no doubt i will get the Cushendall brigade on shouting me down. Not sure about Shields and Shane Mc Naughton on the same line, a big onus will fall on Tosh, he should be well fit for it from what i have seen of him this year. The main doubt i have about our chances are the intensity that Clare are used to playing at, we are not used to that. Clare were hauled over the coals because they got beaten by 8 pts by Cork, i couldnt see this Antrim team getting within 8 pts of Cork. You can play all the challenge matches you want but the intensity will be nothing compared to championship, i remember in 2004 we beat a near full strength Waterford team in Loughguile in a challenge game and thought we were gonna run Cork close, we all know what happened in that match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 27, 2007, 09:21:08 PM
@ McCracken. - every club has their loudmouths but unfortunatley for people like yourself (who seem like a good hurling man) there are far to many of the wrong sort associated with loughguile which give the good hurling men and the club a bad name.

As regards antrim and there chances, i think we are going into this game very much in the dark, we IMO have nothing to go by from previous games this year, nothing can be taken from the league or Ulster Championship.

i do believe we will get beat (i hope im wrong) what i am looking for is a performance, much has been said about Clare being so bad, as Balboa said, they cant be all that bad to get beat by 8 pts by Cork.  Maybe Cork played poor, if Cork played poor against antrim they would still stuff them.

One of the big problems is what a few people have commented on and that is intensity, Antrim players cant raise there intensity level to the levels of Southern teams because we arent used to it, we need to really concentrate on our own club leagues, get the intensity of each league game raised - not the way they are at the minute when most teams dont really care if they win or not.

@ McCracken again - i know how you feel, been all over ireland with Antrim, and it does get depressing after all these years, but its our county team, its our club players and i will be there to support them as usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2007, 09:58:47 PM
Rather than follow the politically correct perspective, do none of youse feel on reflection that the odd schmozzle every now and then at matches helps keep the rivalry alive and in the long run is a healthy thing in our games. There would be nothing worse to me if our games didn't evoke passion (passion which sometimes will overspill). It is a tribal contest after all. Sure as long as you can get up for work the next morning eh?  :)

It's just not cricket...thank god

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 28, 2007, 11:09:07 AM
Whilst I get the jist of your point skull and am in general agreement with you in so far that as long as it's just the players in the schmozzle and use of the hurl is negated then normally no lasting harm is done and you can get up for work the next morning. Just a tad hard to police that one though.

It just seems to me that in a lot of instances it's the gobshites along the line who in their playing days couldn't keep themselves warm in a fight are the main agitators especially at juvenile games and it's those f**kers that need whaled with three foot of alkathene piping every time an obscenity come out of their gobs. Problem solved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 28, 2007, 11:33:56 AM
have to agree with you skull, there is nothing wrong with a wee schmozzle & a bit of passion, but the main difference i see up here and down south is our passion involve hitting people with the hurl in a schmozzle, southern teams have more passion but mostly seem to mainly use shoulders etc, rarely hitting with hurl or fists.

i also think very rarely are the schmozzles fueled by passion, IMO its mostly hatred which is no good for anybody.

we have to get passion into each and every club league game for us to improve.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 28, 2007, 12:41:32 PM
Abit of passion is grand as long as it is channelled in the right direction ie Good, fast hard but fair hurling( not the hurling Glenariffe attempted against us), but the problem up in Antrim most teams struggle to find the balance between passion & dirt.As Give it Timber says we need to get passion into all our matches...but that aint happening at present. Giving my own club's matches this year for example, only the last 15 minutes of the feis cup semi-final against loughgiel & the second half of our league match against Ballygalget would have contained any passion or excitement....the rest have been dead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 28, 2007, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on June 28, 2007, 12:41:32 PM
Abit of passion is grand as long as it is channelled in the right direction ie Good, fast hard but fair hurling( not the hurling Glenariffe attempted against us)

Everyone beware, no rough stuff against Cushendall, it grossly offends them. I heard Donal Mc Naughton got the line against Glenariffe in a league match recently,must have been mistaken identity, maybe we could get all the games abandoned halfway through if you dont like the rhythm of them, if there are too many sticks getting broke or the physio has too administer too many bandages. A dirty hurling game? Surely thats a first.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 02:07:33 PM
Balboa, go watch a rocky movie or something, cause you know nothing about hurling..............................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 28, 2007, 02:25:12 PM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 02:07:33 PM
Balboa, go watch a rocky movie or something, cause you know nothing about hurling..............................

I will take your word for that....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PrivatePile on June 28, 2007, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 02:07:33 PM
Balboa, go watch a rocky movie or something, cause you know nothing about hurling..............................

Large Robert......Are you the administrator on this thread? What makes you such an authority on who knows what? Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 03:18:16 PM
Everyone is rightfully entitled to their own opinion, but frankly 'maybe we could get all the games abandoned halfway through if you dont like the rhythm of them, if there are too many sticks getting broke or the physio has too administer too many bandages. ' is something you'd expect a kid to say. At the end of the day that is my opinion! Also, privatepile, just had a look at some of your previous posts! I think you should go watch the rocky film with Balboa - you 2 think alike - maybe you could get it on together!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
Big Bob what standard have you represented your club or county at then if you're the expert?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 28, 2007, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2007, 03:27:43 PM
Big Bob what standard have you represented your club or county at then if you're the expert?

are folk only experts if they have done any of the mentioned above??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
I have represented my club at every level and contiue to do so at senior level, winning several senior championships along the way. I have also represented my county at every level, winning championships at each of those levels................. Same question to you Tony Baloney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2007, 04:23:41 PM
Quoteare folk only experts if they have done any of the mentioned above??

Nope. But if Balboa is who I think it is he has represented his club and county at All-Ireland level so I'd reckon the statement that he "knows nothing about hurling" is "something you'd expect a kid to say"!  ;)

QuoteI have represented my club at every level and contiue to do so at senior level, winning several senior championships along the way. I have also represented my county at every level, winning championships at each of those levels.................

On the PS2 doesn't count.

QuoteSame question to you Tony Baloney

See above - you don't need to have represented your county to have an opinion or know anything about hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 04:25:46 PM
what hurling game do you have on the PS2 cause I'd like to get a copy of it...............................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 04:30:17 PM
See below:

Anyone heading up to Casement tonight? I think I may pop round with the kids. Good opportunity for them to meet some of the county lads.

An opportunity to meet with our SENIOR HURLERS

With the Senior Hurling panel winding down their preparation for the All-Ireland qualifying group game against Clare on Saturday 30th June @ 2.30pm, the management and players will have an open night to give their supporters an opportunity to meet with them.

This exercise is aimed at our young supporters and we would ask clubs to bring along their underage members to meet the players on Thursday 28th June @8.00pm in Casement Park.

Please avail of this opportunity to let our young people get to know the players and get them interested in coming to our games.

Casement Park Thursday 28th June @ 8pm is the place to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 28, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
Not going to Casement tonight.I'm heading to An Caman on Saturday evening, the Boyd on Sunday afternoon & the Bot on Sunday evneing......should meet all the lads then ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 28, 2007, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: Balboa on June 28, 2007, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on June 28, 2007, 12:41:32 PM
Abit of passion is grand as long as it is channelled in the right direction ie Good, fast hard but fair hurling( not the hurling Glenariffe attempted against us)

Everyone beware, no rough stuff against Cushendall, it grossly offends them. I heard Donal Mc Naughton got the line against Glenariffe in a league match recently,must have been mistaken identity, maybe we could get all the games abandoned halfway through if you dont like the rhythm of them, if there are too many sticks getting broke or the physio has too administer too many bandages. A dirty hurling game? Surely thats a first.......

Have to agree with large bob, with this statement, in my opinion you havent a clue what you are talking about, any chance of you saying something constructive on this site, or are you one of those people who only joined here to stir up shit.

So can we get away from the large chip Balboa has on his shoulder and talk about Antrim Hurling

What about the match on Sunday, does anyboby think we have any chance.?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 28, 2007, 05:19:19 PM
Hell yeah we have a chance - everything is setting itself up nicely, the guys need to produce on the day, which they are well capable of, its gonna be close, but I really really think we can do it................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 28, 2007, 08:26:42 PM
Antrim are 7/1 on Saturday, Clare 1/12.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2007, 09:32:01 PM
Antrim are worth a few spare quid at that price in a one-off match especially with Clare having a few men out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 28, 2007, 09:35:34 PM
Better option is Antrim +7 pts at even money because i cant see them winning, they are 7/1 for a reason.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 28, 2007, 10:54:07 PM
QuoteEveryone beware, no rough stuff against Cushendall, it grossly offends them. I heard Donal Mc Naughton got the line against Glenariffe in a league match recently,must have been mistaken identity, maybe we could get all the games abandoned halfway through if you dont like the rhythm of them, if there are too many sticks getting broke or the physio has too administer too many bandages. A dirty hurling game? Surely thats a first.......

If you read what I said again..I have no problem with Cushendall getting a bit of stick & hit hard as long as it's done fairly(ie within the rules of the game) which I dont think Glenariffe did that day. Yes Donal was sent off...& rightly so, he deserved to go & no complaints from anyone in Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 29, 2007, 11:00:10 AM


What about the match on Sunday, does anyboby think we have any chance.?
[/quote]

SATURDAY timber Saturday!!  obvioulsy a typing error, but just incase you travle up on sunday and theres no-body about!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 29, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
Right, even after all our arguments, disagreements, discussions etc etc Will everyone be turning out tomorrow, rain or shine, to cheer on our county hurlers? to provide that 16th player to hopefully push the lads onto success?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 29, 2007, 12:38:51 PM
will all the all county league games go ahead this Sunday? we've portaferry at home, it's been a while since they have came to our pitch, stole it in injury time with last minute goal to win by a point when we played them at milltown.

dunloy play the johnnies at Corrigan will the county boys be playing straight away if they win?

any other big games this weekend, bar the Clare game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 29, 2007, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on June 29, 2007, 11:00:10 AM


What about the match on Sunday, does anyboby think we have any chance.?

SATURDAY timber Saturday!!  obvioulsy a typing error, but just incase you travle up on sunday and theres no-body about!
[/quote]

no i meant the club league games on sunday.................. ::)  ::)  ::)

..........ok, ok i messed up, well what do you think anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 29, 2007, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2007, 02:24:20 PM
Quoteok, ok i messed up, well what do you think anyway.
Yeah, we all think you messed up too.

Eh  ????????????      ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on June 29, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Just put a few quid on Antrim to win tomorrow on Paddy Power - 13-2. And a few quid on First Goal scorer. John Tosh within the first 10 minutes - 21 yard free - back of the net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Up the Saffrons.....................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 29, 2007, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: Big Bob on June 29, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
Right, even after all our arguments, disagreements, discussions etc etc Will everyone be turning out tomorrow, rain or shine, to cheer on our county hurlers? to provide that 16th player to hopefully push the lads onto success?

Antrim fans are probably the quietest in the country. Even when the team is going well we do not raise much noise. Think back to the Tipp match in C,Dall last year. Antrim had won the first two league games beating Laois and Galway, we had a nice tight pitch in C,Dall and a good crowd but virtually no noise. the game was tight all the yet Our support never got behind the team, IMO. I hope tomorrow is different but I wont be bringing my ear protectors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 29, 2007, 10:18:49 PM
Anyone know what the weather is doing tomorrow afternoon? The stand will be packed to the rafters if it is pishing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 29, 2007, 10:44:26 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 29, 2007, 06:46:19 PM
QuoteJust put a few quid on Antrim to win tomorrow on Paddy Power - 13-2. And a few quid on First Goal scorer. John Tosh within the first 10 minutes - 21 yard free - back of the net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

from talking to the antrim players pinky will be hitting any penalties, for 21 yard frees for the net pinky or neil mcmanus. tosh may as well throw them in

Colonel you have obviously never faced a Tosh penalty/21 yard free if you are spouting shite like that........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 30, 2007, 04:28:32 PM
Well- good game but disapointing--antrim were always chasing the game.

Even when antrim got on top in the 2nd half they insisted on driving the ball in high to the full forward line instead of taking their points.

Clares goals were all too easy, antrim can play well but always seemed to go to sleep after getting a score and let Clare men waltz through.

Too many times a Clare man came out with the ball when there was 3 antrim men contesting it with just one clare man.

Some of antrim's forwards were waiting on the perfect ball and appeared to close their eyes when the ball was in the air.

Delargy, Kelly and Graffin had good games, so did paddy magill--other players were good in parts--thought shane mcnaughton stayed on too long but when McFall came on he didnt look up to the pace.
Some positives but still lost by 9

Tosh was poor-missed a terrible free just before half time then Clare went up and scored with last puck of half

Difference was that Clare were clinical, frighteningly clinical--and this is meant to be a very poor Clare team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on June 30, 2007, 04:49:59 PM
9 pt defeat to an average Clare team,probably shows us where we are. Clare just always seemed to have a score when they needed it, far more economical than Antrim, they hardly hit a wide in the first half. Antrims midfield struggled, cant agree about Sean Delargy playing well, he was behind the man a lot in the first half, i thought Mickey Monty was really poor and he is usually one of our better players. Tosh wasnt at it today but i thought young Sambo got far more ball and did nothing with it, he should have been called ashore earlier. Mc Manus was excellent after a quiet start,ditto for Paddy Magill. People talk about us not being used to the intensity of southern teams, but Clares basic skiills were superior to ours, how many times did you see 3 or 4 antrim players surrounding a Clare player and he was always able to get the ball in his hand and clear it with minimum effort. Couldnt understand when we were getting closer in 2nd half we started pumping high balls (Shorty particularly guilty) into the forwards, end result was Clare backs batting the ball down to their free man about 3 times in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2007, 06:07:53 PM
Just don't have the players IMO to operate at this level at the minute, but hopefully this qualifying system will stay in place and give Antrim 4 meaningful games to try and improve as time goes on.

Good performances from Magil and McManus. Michael Herron also competed very well. I thought the half back line were poor the whole game and made life really difficult for their full back line for the first half hour until shorty had to come back to cover (eventually!! :-\). Things tightened up at the back after that but we lacked the fire power up front and their spare man swept up everything. Agree with others opinion that Shane McN stayed on for too long. I would have moved tosh into the corner and taken shane off due to his experience and extra strength. All those crying for McFall to get a start should catch themselves on. As good a stickman he is, he's carthorse slow now and not a viable option in the corner IMO. Decent enough game and 9 points was about right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on June 30, 2007, 06:45:48 PM
Agree with skull, bottom line is the players arent just good enough. Any mistakes we made were punished straight away. Full back line improved in the second, Graffin was superb in the 2nd half, Pinky improved though should never have let his man catch the ball for the 2nd goal(square ball anyone?). Sean Delargy was far too loose at times. Micky Monty I thought had a good game when he went to centre half, at least he was willing to make a tackle. Johnny Campbell.....i'll say nothing. Midfield was second best especially Brendan Herron who was non exsistent. Magill hurled well & worked very hard & took some good scores. McManus hardly hit a ball til he got the goal & came into more in the second half with a few good assists. Tosh was poor...that missed free was awful. Shane McN started brightly but should have been taken off 5-10 minutes in the second half as by then his man had him well beat. Michael Herron done well when he went to FF at start of 2nd half & as for McFall...the people's(mccooey's) champion...my arse

When Antrim went man for man they struggled(start & end of match) bigtime.When Shorty was brought back to protect the full back Antrim done well but this resulted in big long clearances to no-one. When Shorty went back to corner forward it left the space again & Antrim struggled again. The players fought very hard & cant be faulted for effort but just up to it just yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on June 30, 2007, 11:36:26 PM
have to agree with the opinions on the game.

game i thought was slow to start, but eventually got going, although antrim never looked like winning it was quite enjoyable.
i would find it hard to say that anybody actually played really well, a few good performances, but even those people made basic errors.  S Delargy had a really poor first half but had a good second, pinky i thought was ropey enough, Graffin was not bad, Johnny campbell was poor apart from a few good clearances, disagree with previous post, i thought Micky Monty had a good game overall, made a few mistakes but tried really hard, ciaran herron played steady enough, midfield i thought was terrible and never in the game at all, k stewart done nothing to help when he came on. up front best player was P Magill, some great scores from play, young mcmanus had a poor first half , came into it more in the second, Micko wasnt in the game at all until he went into FF, did a bit better in there. Do have to agree though Shane McN should have been off alot earlier, had plenty of ball but didnt do anything with it, johnny was poor as i expected, really poor free which would have brought it back to 2 just before half time. shorty was terrible until moved out, done well there except for delivery of the ball in, then was terrible again when put in the corner again.

most important thing is to stay in the LMCC, Antrim need games this this every year, only that way will they improve. a previous poster mentioned it was the basic skills that antrim lack not intensity, its playing at that intensity (or above) regularly that you learn to use those basic skills better.

i just believe this is the level we are at, we (as plenty of posters have said previous) need to get our club leagues back to meaningfull games, with intensity in them.

a full set of club fixtures tommorrow (i think) . are the county players allowed to play, if so i wonder how many will play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on July 01, 2007, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 01, 2007, 03:21:48 AM
QuoteMcFall...the people's(mccooey's) champion...my arse
This just shows that the north Antrim, anti-Belfast attitude still exists. It is a joke that Sambo jnr wasn't taken off earlier in the game. For some reason every ball was put in his direction. He won about 20%. They put Brian Mc Fall on. He put himself about and won a fair amount of ball. Why are you so against him? You have made him out to be the worst in the world. He wasn't on long enough to be judged. Take a look at the players that started before you go mad at someone who came on when the game was basically over.

have to agree with some of what you have said hard, mainly about shane, he is a very good huler IMO, but should have been taken off earlier. dont agree with you on McFall, he didnt win any ball at all and he had plenty of ball hit into him, and won nothing, he had numerous high ball (everyone and his dog knows McFall couldnt catch the cold), and one ball that went into the corner he looked like a carthorse. i dont like to get at Mcfall because he has done good for antrim for years and showed good commitment this year sticking at it, but his day (of starting) is gone IMO.

i also dont think the above statement was meant as anti-belfast, i think it was due to the fact that it is only supporters from Belfast that think McFall should start.

so what does everyone think for next week, or first, about the club games today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 01, 2007, 06:13:56 PM
It wasnt anti-belfast, it was as give it timber said, that only people from Belfast seem to look for his inclusion onto the team, he cant win any sort of ball & is very slow now. I've nothing against him at all. As regards to Shane, I already stated he should have been off at the start of the second half as he had some good low ball into his corner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2007, 06:43:34 PM
anti-belfast my arse hardstation. Hurling in Belfast would benefit greatly if there were a few more "local heros" on the county team and I would love that to be the case as hurling it would mean more depth existed at club level, but to hold Brian up as one of those who should get is chance on the starting 15 is quite frankly laughable. If you were arguing the case for Simon McCrory's inclusion then your opinion would have some credibility as he a player showing promise, but McFall ???. Come on man...take a step back...its as clear as the day that he isn't up to county level anymore. Dunloy played the Johnnies today and he was anonymous apart from frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2007, 08:37:00 PM
I thought there were quite a few positives to take out of the game too.

The defense was quite good when they got going. Corner backs were slow to start but when they got going they were good. Delargy's block in the first half was excellent and Graffin in the second half was also superb. I thought Ciarn Herron was good and Micky was solid but perhaps made a couple of unforced errors which got punished. Johnny Campbell wasn't brilliant - he's too loose a marker - but I think he wasn't as poor as being made out here. Pinky struggled withe the pace of the game - I'm not sure he's fit. Malachy Molloy would have been a big plus for the defense in that game.Clare had an awful amount of free catches. Midfield well - Herron wasn't in it but I thought Karl did well. I thought Micko did well when put into full forward though he should maybe try to catch it a time or two rather than consistently flicking it on. McManus allowed Gerry Quinn too much dominance in the air but was good on the ball. Paddy McGill put in a good performance. Young Sambo , I think, merits his place. He is pacy and I think it was worth a shot seeing if that would bother an aging Clare defense. He did see a lot of ball and didn't win enough but I think when he fills out he'll be a good county player. Tosh wasn't at it at all and Shorty did well picking uploose ball behind half back line but maybe needs to think before just sending it liong as Clare had too many bodies.

In summary I think it's like people say - at the minute we just don't have the players. I however think this time last year or the year before Clare would have gave us an awful spanking and at least we competed.  If Paddy Richmond and Malachy Molloy were playing it could have been a much tighter game. We also need to be a lot sharper, and position ourslves better , for breaking ball. If a ball is coming high between two men there should always be another man coming in for the break. That wasn't the case a lot of times yesterday. Not all doom and gloom - next day Micko to start at FF, Tosh at CF and McCrory in WHF. That's what I would like to see. McFall hasn't the pace to start though I think he's good for an "impact" sub.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 01, 2007, 08:44:42 PM
Colonel, when was i going on about Tosh earlier in the week? I pulled you up on some horseshit you were talking about him not having the "strength" to hit penalties, tosh was poor, no doubt,when we play at that level more often than not we have more players that under perform than perform, he was in good company with 75% of the team.....You seem unable to watch an Antrim match impartially, Aaron Graffin was cleaned out in the first half, he improved in the second half but there was a fair bit of damage already done. The reason the full back line where under so much pressure was the midfield was atrocious, Karl Mc Keegan spent most of the game berating his own players,once Sean Delargy cleared a ball when he was under a fair bit of pressure and Karl was 20 yds from his man, his man duly stuck it over the bar, Karl then gave Sean a mouthful because he was made to look bad, Karl seems to be one of these players that remains immune from criticism, him and Herron never figured. Twice Karl was chasing his man and as the man started pulling away from him he just gave up and stopped running.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 02, 2007, 09:23:42 AM
Fixtures

Maneely McCann Division 1 Hurling
Dunloy v  Cushendall  Dunloy 08/07/2007 15:00 Garrett Duffy   
Portaferry v  Loughgiel Shamrocks  Portaferry 08/07/2007 15:00 Hugh Torney   
Ballycran v  Glenariff  Ballycran 08/07/2007 15:00 Declan Magee   

Maneely McCann Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Dunloy v  Cushendall  Dunloy 08/07/2007 13:30 Donal Cassley   
Portaferry v  Loughgiel Shamrocks  Portaferry 08/07/2007 13:30 Cathal O Flynn   

Maneely McCann Division 2 Hurling

Gort Na Mona  v  Gaeil Chluana  Gort Na Mona 02/07/2007 20:00 Owen Elliott   
Gaeil Chluana v  Carey Faughs  Ahoghill 08/07/2007 15:00 Liam McAuley   
St. Pauls v  Gort Na Mona  St. Pauls 08/07/2007 15:00 Ray Matthews   
Rasharkin v  Glenravel  Rasharkin 08/07/2007 15:00 Eugene McHugh   
Tir na Nog v  Shane O Neills  Tir na Nog 08/07/2007 15:00 Terence Wells   
Armoy v  Cushendun  Armoy 08/07/2007 15:00 Pat McCafferty   

Maneely McCann Division 3 Hurling

Davitts v  Ballymena  Boucher Road 08/07/2007 14:00 Liam Quinn   
Bredagh v  Na fuiseoig  Cherryvale 08/07/2007 14:00 Brendan Toland   
St. Agnes v  Larne  St. Agnes 08/07/2007 15:00 Michael French   
St. Endas v  O Mitchel Og  St. Endas 08/07/2007 15:00 Sean Willoughby   
Sarsfields 2 v St. Teresas  Sarfields 08/07/2007 15:00 TBC   
Cloughmills v  Ardoyne  Cloughmills 08/07/2007 15:00 John McHenry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 02, 2007, 10:18:21 AM
We had the visit of Glenariff yesterday and although other contributors had issues with their style of play I'd say I'd have to concur with those opinions. In general a lot of their lads seem to take the cheap shot, blocking on hands, slapping down, early pulling on the high ball, late frontal charges when the ball had been released etc, etc. To couple it all off we had the 'schemozzle' as well which in fairness was started by one of our lads wild pull on the corner back who'd cut lumps out of him the whole day. The corner back took exception to a bit of his own medicine and wanted to box then the handbags started flying.

I can't really understand Glenariff as they have some very good hurlers who can hurl when they take the notion and after the schemozzle they fell apart and we opened up a good lead which they never got close to after that. The big lad Randal McDonnell, i think he is, is a good hurler and took some fine points was only too keen to get involved and lost interest in the game and he was their main scoring threat up until that. They have a very good keeper who stopped two certain goals when we were on top. Is there no one talking any sense into these lads?

Title: Re: Glenarriffe
Post by: McCracken on July 02, 2007, 11:01:01 AM
Johnneycool,

Ive watched Glenarriffe a couple of times this year and would have to agree with you. If they stuck to the hurling then perhaps they would be in a better position than they are. They have some fine hurlers coming trough, but their problem seems to be the way they are being instructed from the side line. They are being activly incouraged to be dirty and their mentors, one in particular, are letting them down a bagfull. When they played us in Loughguile, the referee actually had to push one of their mentors off the pitch as he was on trying to start a row with one of the players!! :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 12:27:21 PM
Was up at Casement on Saturday......have read all the posts....and although they are pretty correct, i feel Antrim have made progress and with time -2/3 years we will be competing with the likes of Clare, offaly, Wexford etc. So all is not lost.

Regarding club games - Roosa didnt field against us.....they must be in seroius bother at min if the cant even field a team...and imagine only 3 years ago thet were beating the mighty Shamrocks in the County final ;D

Glenariife are turning into a wind up this year....for past 2/3 years they had been playing great hurling, now they change management and all they want to do is fight!! thats ballycastle, cushendall, loughguile and noe ballygalget they have got involved with!!

McCracken - how are you shams shaping up this year??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 02, 2007, 12:39:51 PM
My thoughts on the game, for what it's worth.

when it came to the crunch we were found wanting. With ten minutes to go three points down we started to throw high ball in, looking for a goal, we should have been playing good low ball into the forwards which would have yielded more scores. The high ball in is a fifty-fifty ball. I thought we were light lack the intensity and Clare were always doing enough just to be in front. They had another gear and there ability to score from long range was a big difference between the sides.

A lot of the players played in patches, there was not too many players who dominated their positions or men. The players who have been good all year went missing on Saturday, which we cannot afford, for us to be beating Clare we need all our strong players playing well and available.

The Shane thing, my opinion was he should have came off earlier he was falling all over the place second to the ball and although he scored 2 points I was a bit miffed at his inclusion ahead of others who have been playing.

So Laois next, will it get any better? Hard to call we should win but it will be close. Will the management name the same team or will there be any changes?

club games: we played Portaferry, we were missing some main players but still thought we'd do well but portaferry played very well, big team and took some nice scores 4 points in it with 5 minutes to go but they ran out easy winners, although the main talking point was Eugene (ballycastle ref) getting took out by Millgan, totally emptied eugene went off looking very sore :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on July 02, 2007, 01:25:39 PM
@ North Antrim,

Too soon to say. We are seeing glimpses of form from time to time, and had a big win over Ballycran yesterday at home. However we still have the ability to make things hard for ourselves. Lamh Dearg drew with us the other week in Loughguile. Not sure what to make of it though as it was a complete piss of an evening. Lots of new faces around at the minute, which is no bad thing, but loosing Winker has been a big blow. Swevey Sneeky and Joey Scullion out injured at the moment too.

Underage we are going well, U16 minor and U21. U21s will get their fill of it against Dunloy though. Not sure about the younger ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 02, 2007, 01:30:47 PM

Milltown...What happenned Eugene??


I think most of us are in agreement at the state of the county team at present. They are moving in the right direction,some of the younger lads should become stronger & more experienced, playing at this level will help but a move to Leinster would be nice

Is there any players in the county that could improve us. I could maybe see the likes of Tosh, McFall, Paddy Richmond, big Mal & Pinky retiring from the county at the end of the season maybe next year, thats going to leave a big gap to fill. Who could be brought in to replace these boys??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
Aye Winker will be aserious blow to you hopes....we are going well ourselves this year in comparison to other years. Our u-21's had a great result last week and look good for our first ever title. It all augers well for the future. We are realistic this year to no that we wont win a senior but Humpy & Micky mcshane are creating a good set-up and things are improving. Noel Brick, think he was involved with you lads a few years ago as joined our group to take the fitness. By the way McCracken how is Joe cassidy being recieved around loughguile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Hippy Donnelly will come into senior set-up next year. Hes a super talent. He had an operation 3 weeks ago in munich and is back training again. Hoefully he will get a good run of games. he wud come straight in to full back...imo hes better than pinky! Check out my pic - its hippy catching a ball against the former all-ireland club champions at our official opening a few months ago. Sum player!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2007, 02:15:28 PM
Johnneycool

Glenariffe were poor in the second half for a number of reasons. Firstly they had the breeze in the first half and only went in at the short whistle about 2 points up. Secondly I think Ballygalget were better in the second half when Magic went off as they pumped every ball into him in the first half and he did nothing with it. His departure meant they had to make more use of that boy Rat and Johnny McGrattan who was a handful.

Everyone knows who the main culprits are for indiscipline on the Glenariffe side but that's just they way they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on July 02, 2007, 03:08:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 02, 2007, 02:56:02 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Hippy Donnelly will come into senior set-up next year. Hes a super talent. He had an operation 3 weeks ago in munich and is back training again. Hoefully he will get a good run of games. he wud come straight in to full back...imo hes better than pinky! Check out my pic - its hippy catching a ball against the former all-ireland club champions at our official opening a few months ago. Sum player!!

You are obviously related to him...because you're from Ballycastle, but are you his sister/brother or Hippy himself?

or maybe just a mad stalker :o  :o  :o      :D   :D   :D   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 05:37:50 PM
No just a fan of his...we havnt had much to shout about recently around the town!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 02, 2007, 11:30:40 PM
Any Johnnies mean on this board? Just wondering why your facilities (around the pitch) are in such a poor state? The place looked a real mess on Sunday. How are people mean't to have pride in their club if it looks like that? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 03, 2007, 11:22:12 AM
Skull- i believe ypu got it tight with the Johnnies at the weekend? how are things shaping up for you lads...you seem to be keeping a low profile this year. But i bet you fancy your chances at the title??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 03, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
theskull

was just talking to a fella in work there about the johnnies match and was saying the exact same thing, for such a big club with a supposed thriving social club you'd wonder why the grounds are in such poor shape.  they were saying the stand is closed for health and safety reason.  is corrigan not officially the county's second ground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 03, 2007, 12:40:45 PM
regarding clubs and facilities in belfast we and other clubs are struggling with the social side of things. the bars are not bringing the money in as it was prior to the ceasefire. before that we Naomh gall would have had 5/6 nights a week were there was a steady crowd weekends were really busy. but now everybody is heading into the centre money has dried up and the old fashion fundraising has died a death.

so a lot of clubs have not got the money to upgrade or in our case pull down and build new ones. we have something in the future regarding new changing facilities but what we have at the minute is terrible and embarrassing. again bear with it it will get better.

barring injuries Skull were you at full strength against the Johnnies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 03, 2007, 01:01:23 PM
Milltown i see what you are saying but surely there is other areas to explore other than relying on revenue from the social club, there are plenty of clubs that do not have a social club that have new facilities, be it through lottery grants/large scale fundraising.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 03, 2007, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 03, 2007, 12:40:45 PM
regarding clubs and facilities in belfast we and other clubs are struggling with the social side of things. the bars are not bringing the money in as it was prior to the ceasefire. before that we Naomh gall would have had 5/6 nights a week were there was a steady crowd weekends were really busy. but now everybody is heading into the centre money has dried up and the old fashion fundraising has died a death.

so a lot of clubs have not got the money to upgrade or in our case pull down and build new ones. we have something in the future regarding new changing facilities but what we have at the minute is terrible and embarrassing. again bear with it it will get better.

barring injuries Skull were you at full strength against the Johnnies.

I think Antrim County Board along with the clubs would need to devise a development plan in Belfast. The remit would need to include fund raising but more importantly would be encouraging volunteerism at all levels within clubs. Its not just the higher profile jobs needed in a good running club. Its the sandwich makers, cleaners, bar tenders, groundsmen, tradesmen for odd jobs. All people who give their time free of charge for the good of their club and people in their community. Thats what the GAA should be about. These people have as equal a share in the GAA as any high profile county player IMO. The silent heros. Real change in Belfast clubs won't happen unless people like this exist and are prepared to come out of the woodwork and play a part in the revitalisation.

Regarding the Johnnies match, Paddy Richmond was wedding tied  ???(getting hitched this Saturday......if it was a camogie match I could maybe understand) but with Paddy you never know what your gonna get from him (inconsistency is his biggest flaw) so don't know if that would have made a difference. We have a few other injuries and suspensions which did leave us a bit light, but really we weren't good on Sunday even though we took plenty of scores. Hopefully one to learn from as we had been on a decent run up to that match and looked to have took our foot of the pedal a bit on Sunday. Plenty of work required still before I'd say we were championship material. But its only the start of July so .....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 03, 2007, 01:48:57 PM
before our club had it current social club we had a sort of portacabin style bar/function room club, pretty dismall, but a lot of work was put in by members of the time that made the club and pitches, that was over 20 years ago 86 i think. then we just relied on the takings behind the bar which were good. so the fundraising stopped.

there are still some belfast clubs without pitches that are making loads of money behind the bar but do not improve their own facilities. in our club it's the same people doing the same jobs. people get fed up after a while. no one wants to do anything for free now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on July 04, 2007, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 02, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
Aye Winker will be aserious blow to you hopes....we are going well ourselves this year in comparison to other years. Our u-21's had a great result last week and look good for our first ever title. It all augers well for the future. We are realistic this year to no that we wont win a senior but Humpy & Micky mcshane are creating a good set-up and things are improving. Noel Brick, think he was involved with you lads a few years ago as joined our group to take the fitness. By the way McCracken how is Joe cassidy being recieved around loughguile?

@ North Antrim

WRT Joe Cassidy, the general feeling is that he is doing a good job, and he is well liked by the players. Its always good to have someone around with an outside perspective on things. Noel Brick was with us for a number of years and he certainly knows his stuff, from a fitness perspective. He is a real gentleman and has done a lot of work throughout the country in various codes and at all levels. He can definitely bring something to the table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 10:53:04 AM
Aye Brick seems to have made an impression with our lads, and i know the Carey lads enjoy his training too. Glad to hear joe has went down well. hes done a great job in CPC. Well McCracken - do you play? Will you lads deliver this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 04, 2007, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 10:53:04 AM
Glad to hear joe has went down well.

;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
Very gud Rocky!! ;D ;D

So big lad - who will championship in your opinion??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 04, 2007, 11:09:18 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
Very gud Rocky!! ;D ;D

So big lad - who will championship in your opinion??

Its hard to say, one of Cushendall, Shamrocks or Dunloy. I dont think the quality is great compared to previous years. If Dunloy get their finger out they have a great chance, Loughguile will struggle without Winker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 04, 2007, 11:17:31 AM
has to be between one of those 3. again hard to decide, none of them can be ruled out.  all 3 seem to be going about their business very quietly for this time of year compared to other years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
Girt - quiet?? take it they have been mouthing off the last number of years. I was chatting to a prominent Dall player recently, he had a few drinks in him, and he seemed to think this years championship wud be their easiest. They are only starting to train now and are planning for a long season.....arrogance was the word that sprung to mind!!


Do any of you think we could cause a shock or two?? Our lads are on a drink ban until 22nd where we play the mighty dall!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 04, 2007, 11:34:18 AM
hope you's come good come championship.  to me your game v st johns will be the big one assuming you win both your home fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 04, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
Girt - quiet?? take it they have been mouthing off the last number of years.

i suppose by quiet i meant reading all the sprouting you hear on the likes of here/hoganstand etc about who's going to win what etc. who at the end of the day are likely just kids! but still passes the working day reading this kinda thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 12:08:55 PM
Our championship team will be - providing everyones fit - Ryan McGarry, micky Buff, Ronan Donnelly, Gary Maybin, Bamba, Neal McAuley, Hippy, Nander, Ryan D, Peter Dallat, Pinky, ????., Steve McGarry, Causey, KB McShane

Think we will make semis - and hopefully draw the bodies!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 04, 2007, 12:20:23 PM
North Antrim...In my opinion this year will not be easy for Cushendall. I think Dunloy will be alot stronger this year & hungrier now...3 years without Big ears will have hurt them. Loughgiel without Watson might struggle for scores but they do seem to be training hard & abit tougher, maybe with Watsson away they might be a happier bunch. For us, alot will depend on hunger & possibly injuries, without being big-headed..I think if Cushendall if we have a full team & play to our potential we should win....but thats a big if & I'm sure the other teams will have a big say in that. For the rest, Ballycsstle seeming to making a big push & I think we'll struggle against them in the first matchas we have done in the last few years. Rossa seem to be struggling bigtime & st johns just a few players short & abit young just yet.

Everything has been very quiet this year...no decent matches thus far. We are down to play Dunloy this weekend but with the county playing on Saturday/injuries/Weddings & Holidays both teams will be short a few
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 12:26:26 PM
just got a txt frm a mate who said he heard winker got turned at shannon airport!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 04, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Heard that myself. I was told it was problems wih his visa & not anything to do with a nite out in magherafelt. Think he's gonna fly out in a couple of weeks when he gets his visa sorted. Dont know if the management would take him back anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 04, 2007, 01:17:33 PM
3 days old this 'news'....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 03:10:26 PM
Ah well thanks for sharing with us then >:(

He certainly is well named then.....he prob missed his ma's cooking.....Winker "CJ" watson ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 04, 2007, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 03:10:26 PM
Ah well thanks for sharing with us then >:(

He certainly is well named then.....he prob missed his ma's cooking.....Winker "CJ" watson ;D ;D

CJ didnt have problems with his visa, he had problems with not getting a bedtime story read to him every night by his oul girl.
Title: Antrim v Laois
Post by: aontroim on July 04, 2007, 03:36:53 PM
Says on county website the same team has been named for the Laois game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on July 04, 2007, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 10:53:04 AMWell McCracken - do you play? Will you lads deliver this year?

No, vastly over the hill I'm afraid. Never was that good anyway.

WRT delivering this year, I'd love to see it, its been a long time coming, but I think we have lost with better squads than the current one. There are alot of young guys knocking around at the moment who are excellent propects, but I think it may be too soon for them. Hope I'm wrong.

IMO its between Cushendall and Dunloy, with Dunloy shading it. Not because Cushendall are a worse team but simply because Dunloy have had a rest and are now as hungry as before!! Their only problem will be lack of experience with a young team, although they seem to be managing ok so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 04:17:25 PM
McCracken - heres your chance in the big time - i have named my preferrd ballycastle team - you piv=ck your preferred Loughguile team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 05, 2007, 08:25:07 AM
Lads lets get behind the team on Saturday. We have to avoid a return to Christy Ring! A good turn out will lift the lads.

(http://antrim.gaa.ie/images/antrim-v-laois.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 05, 2007, 08:38:18 AM
I hope Antrim will win this match and i hope we win it by at least ten points, but i cant see it. this will be a very tight affair Laois did well to stick with galway and i know we have come on from the last time we played Galway in the league (a game in which i watched) although Galway ran out 12 point winners Laois made a real game of it. i hope our lads don't fall into this trap of thinking it's only Laois and we should stuff them.

Antrim by 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 05, 2007, 08:56:32 AM
There should arguably be no trap to be falling into.

I watched Antrim play Laois in the friendly match down there in late Feb/early March (after the Ballyhale/Toomevara club semi in Portlaoise). Laois blew Antrim away. I left with about 15 minutes left but Laois were still up by a fair bit.

Admittedly challenge matches that early are not a real guide and the squad has changed a fair bit but it should hopefully mean that Sambo/Woody avoid complacency.


I am not sure of how the relegation to the Christy Ring works. If Antrim beat Laois and get beat by Galway where do they stand? Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on July 05, 2007, 09:52:49 AM
@ Glensman - as far as i am aware, the team who finish bottom of bath groups play each other in a relegation play-off to see who goes into the Christy Ring,  not 100% so anybody clarify.

@ North Antrim -was also talking to a couple of cushendall players at Cemetary Sunday last week and they both said, that this year was going to be very difficult. They have quite a few injuries and with so many away at the county, training hasnt been that good so far. been training with the minors to get the numbers this year.  IMO opinion its between Loughgeil, Dunloy and Cushendall again (not in that order), Ballycastle are improving but still just too early for them yet.

Hope Antrim win this weekend, its very important that we stay in the LMCC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on July 05, 2007, 10:01:58 AM
There is no relegation to the Christy Ring Cup this year -:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy_Ring_Cup
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 05, 2007, 10:34:50 AM
I think we will beat Laois, purely because we have home advantage. I dont see how we can get caught up in the idea that we will stuff Laois on Saturday, there has never been much between the 2 teams. I am not sure what  form Eastwoods are using to make up their odds but Antrim at 8/13 is a bit mean.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 05, 2007, 11:10:14 AM
true. better taking a chance on them +2 at around 10/11 I think I saw it in Easties yesterday.

Antrim @ 8/13 in a LMCC match, just doesnt sound right!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 05, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on July 05, 2007, 11:10:14 AM
true. better taking a chance on them +2 at around 10/11 I think I saw it in Easties yesterday.

Antrim @ 8/13 in a LMCC match, just doesnt sound right!  ;D

Maybe better again with Paddy Power is Antrim (-4) at 13/8, i wouldnt be going silly with it though ! Same team for Saturday, quite a few boys need to up their performance from last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 05, 2007, 01:39:25 PM
Same team named for benefit of papers and other press, expect a few changes both personell and positional.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 05, 2007, 01:53:53 PM
NAG....are you saying that team is wrong & there will be changes.

A few must be looking over there shoulders...the likes of Johnny Campbell, Shane McN, Brendan Herron & Paul Shiels??? Micky Kettle to come back in??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 05, 2007, 02:19:22 PM
Yes there are changes coming, I would expect anything to radical but there are personell and positional changes coming.

Personally dont believe that Johnny is a centre back and cant understand why Karl has been moved out of there. People say he isnt a marker and his man does too much damage, but he clears up all the loose ball and sure the management seem intent on bringing someone from the forward line (usually shileds) to help Johnny out because he is under pressure.

This is a totally negative move, if the mid fielders were on their game one would be sweeping infornt of the centre back allowing him to drop off into the gap between full back and half back lines and covering that space which is so dangerous. BUt maybe the management dont see it like that and are more intent on proving that they were right and leaving a spare man for the opposition in our forward line when our forwards are already incapable of winning their own 50-50 battle.

does that make sense or is it too simple??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 05, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
teams use the seven man defence all the time, if your playing against a quality forward line then having an extra player there for some cover can stiffle the opposing teams plans. but quality ball must go into the forwards. it is no use playing a high ball into the two full forwards, as the spare man will clean up the breaking ball, the forwards in turn must play infront of their men and expect the ball coming in.
so the forwards must be very quick and have the ability to win ball and go past the defender. the half forward line must not take the space in front of them either. this plan works well if everybody are well drilled on this during training.

we used this tactic a few years ago as the squad was just up to division one and our policiy was to contain teams and use our speed in the forward line to get the scores. worked well and the lads gained a lot of confidence against teams that would have normally duffed us had we played a normall game.

against the likes of Cork, Galway and the rest Antrim should be using this, we might not always win but we will gain confidence from the games by making them competitive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 05, 2007, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 05, 2007, 02:19:22 PM
sure the management seem intent on bringing someone from the forward line (usually shileds) to help Johnny out because he is under pressure.

Shields wasnt brought back to cover for Johhny Campbell, he was brought back to protect the full back line who were getting over run, the halfbacks and particularly midfield were not doing their jobs, Clare were cutting through them. Shields distribution of the ball was woeful when he cam back so if they are intent in using this tactic maybe he isnt the right man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 05, 2007, 09:56:02 PM
They tried Karl stewart in that role against Kilkenny in the league and it did not work. Admittedly part of the problem was Shiels and McFall in the two man full forward line, McFall had no speed and Shiels was pushed about by his marker  plus the big KK full back ate up all the high balls we dropped on his head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGreatGame on July 05, 2007, 10:14:26 PM
Well lads meself and a few others are making the trip up for this one.  Looking forward to what should be a close enough game.  The Laois team definately wont be the team named, Joe Phelan went off the last day with a torn hamstring so I'd say the management just put out the same team to the press for convenience sake.  He will be a big enough loss too but Laois should be solid from 1 to 9.  The forwards let us down against Galway and whichever sides front six operates better on the day will probably win.  Keep an eye out for some of our younger players, both corner backs and centre-back are u21 and good prospects for the future. By the sounds of things Antrim have a few young lads in the forwards so there should be some good clashes in prospect.

Havent been up to Casement before for a game.  We're thinking of heading up Friday and maybe staying in a hotel or B & B.  Could anyone give some info on suitable places to stay and any places worth visiting for a few scoops?  Also a friends family (youngest 12) are getting the train up on Saturday and any advice there would help too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 06, 2007, 04:18:10 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 04, 2007, 12:08:55 PM
Our championship team will be - providing everyones fit - Ryan McGarry, micky Buff, Ronan Donnelly, Gary Maybin, Bamba, Neal McAuley, Hippy, Nander, Ryan D, Peter Dallat, Pinky, ????., Steve McGarry, Causey, KB McShane

Think we will make semis - and hopefully draw the bodies!!!

Too many boys in that team. Though, I highly expect them to make a good impression, it being our centenuary year and all. Still very vunrable in a few areas.  Can't see it being this year but I can see it coming eventualy hopefully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 09:07:26 AM
Antrim team is being named tonight, who do youse think will get the chop (if anyone) ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 06, 2007, 10:47:49 AM
Corner forward needs looked at as Sambo's boy was poor enough in the last match. Tosh wasn't firing on all cylinders last time out too - he could be on the bench or maybe pushed into the corner to replace Shane. If Jonny Campbell was gonna be axed it would have happened a long time ago - he must of photos of Sambo and Woody somewhere  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 06, 2007, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: TheGreatGame on July 05, 2007, 10:14:26 PM
Well lads meself and a few others are making the trip up for this one.  Looking forward to what should be a close enough game.  The Laois team definately wont be the team named, Joe Phelan went off the last day with a torn hamstring so I'd say the management just put out the same team to the press for convenience sake.  He will be a big enough loss too but Laois should be solid from 1 to 9.  The forwards let us down against Galway and whichever sides front six operates better on the day will probably win.  Keep an eye out for some of our younger players, both corner backs and centre-back are u21 and good prospects for the future. By the sounds of things Antrim have a few young lads in the forwards so there should be some good clashes in prospect.

Havent been up to Casement before for a game.  We're thinking of heading up Friday and maybe staying in a hotel or B & B.  Could anyone give some info on suitable places to stay and any places worth visiting for a few scoops?  Also a friends family (youngest 12) are getting the train up on Saturday and any advice there would help too.

Any number of pubs in the west Belfast area but the city centre is where you want to be. Hotels are booked up pretty quickly so get on the ball early. Jury's, Days hotel, and a rake of B&B's in South Belfast area. For bars and clubs in town, the Cathedral quarter is quite busy.

On the Saturday before the game there are a lot of bars around Casement, our own club is facing the Falls Park along with Rossa, the White fort Inn is closer again and Casement has it's own bar under the stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 08:44:21 PM
Karl Stewart & Colm Duffin  ??? replace McIntosh & Shane Mc Naughton tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on July 07, 2007, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 08:44:21 PM
Karl Stewart & Colm Duffin  ??? replace McIntosh & Shane Mc Naughton tomorrow.

Oh my Good God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        :o  :o  :o        :'(  :'(   :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 07, 2007, 11:21:27 AM
I was shocked when I read that myself. As far as I know Shane is injured, but as poor as Tosh was last week I wouldnt have dropped him, you would have fancied him to get a few scores against Laois. S&W dont seem to be fans of Tosh..where as they must be big fans of Duffin?? Where will Duffin play??? Again we are going to struggle for scores, 4 teenagers in the forward line. We are going to get it tough today I reckon & dont think there will be much of a crowd up today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 07, 2007, 11:51:39 AM
Tosh was poor last week alright,(he wasnt alone) but i would have given him another chance,when he is on his game he is as good as we have. I have seen Duffin a few times and how he is on an intercounty panel, never mind starting, is beyond me. Stewart has had numerous chances and isnt up to the standard needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 07, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
Strange game, would be interesting to see how it panned out if both teams played the whole match with 15 players, (Laois had man red carded at start of 2nd half). It was two pretty poor teams,it had the distinct feel of a Christy Ring match as opposed to All Ireland qualifiers with im sure less than a thousand in attendance. Some of the options Antrim were taking even with the numerical advantage were bizarre, i would have thought they would have learnt their lesson about hitting aimless balls into the forwards from last week. Laois started well, Pinky was going to be in for a long afternoon if he hadnt been hauled off after 10 minutes ! Mc Manus was poor in 1st half but came into it well in the second half. Duffin was poor and i dont think he will be anything else anytime he plays. Stewart wasnt up to much either until Antrim started to pull away near the end when he put a few over. As the supporter next to me said "that isnt Liam Mc Carthy hurling out there". I still think the backs are there for the taking against better opposition, Laois were in a few times for goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 09, 2007, 12:07:05 PM
According to the Irish News Tosh has pulled the pin as well as McFall. A shame really as these guys are not that old, are they even 30? Its all very well giving youth a chance but there has to be a balance. I doubt if anyone really thinks that Duffin is a better option than Tosh, no harm to Duffin he is still young and may improve but is not up to inter county pace yet. That means that this year for a variety of reasons we have lost Watson, P Richmond McFall and Tosh and after the way they have left the panel it is hard to see them returning. That is a serious amount of firepower for Antrim to loose. If Sambo and Woody are going to stay for three to four years the teenagers are going to have to grow up fast, personally I think it is asking too much of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 09, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
Tosh is 28 Mc Fall would be 29 i think. They have both been on the go a long time with Antrim, i would say Tosh was rightly pissed off about getting the hoof for the match on Saturday, he wasnt good against Clare but he wasnt alone & if S & W think Duffin can offer more top the team than Tosh that is their lookout but he was poor on Saturday and isnt up to that level of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 09, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
Tosh would have started v Galway - that is pretty obvious. I hope he hasn't thrown in the towel because of not starting v Laois. Agreed Colm Duffin isn't going to set the world on fire.

Also agree about some of the dire ball that was being played into the forwards, especially in the second half. Brendan Herron especially guilty...did not once take a look up and see where and to whom he would pass the ball. But the others were guilty as well.

With a spare man Antrim persisted with the tactic of putting Paul Shields in front of the full back line. Was a pretty backward thinking tactic that one -  it is generally but especially so when playing with an extra man. For the last 5/10 minutes he did clear some ball but by that stage Laois were tiring and anyone could have done the same.

James Young is a great hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 09, 2007, 02:37:25 PM
Thought Antrim played decent in patches....still feel we have moved forward this year....i honestly reckon in 3/4 years we will compete with wexford, offaly, clare etc.....

Dont think we will beat galway - prob 8 points to galway. Next sesaon will be a big one for management they will need to make more progress...that is - a good NHL and 2 wins in Qualifiers......

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 09, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
Antrim Minors got drawn against Kilkenny in the All-Ireland 1/4-Final - still no word fo date and time yet.  Kilkenny will be dangerous after being beaten by the Dubs - hard to know if KK were the best to draw from Cork, Galway and KK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 09, 2007, 06:25:05 PM
I agree North Antrim that we have moved forward a bit - I hope its not the optimist in me. If this season, whenever its finished, is analysed properly I hope the management realise where they have gone wrong and set about to improve it. Intensity has, I feel, been upped a little now lets up it further and get the skills to go with it.

With a bit of luck and alot of hard work we might run Galway even closer than that. It will be a good barometer for where we're at ... I hope there is not feeling of just wanting to avoid a heavy defeat.

3/4 years of sustained effort is hard work up here. Rarely do we get the win, that bit of excitement that keeps us (or rather the players) going for the next year. A breakthrough win either this year v Galway or next is what is needed so that we have something to build on.

Here's hoping for the match at the weekend though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 09, 2007, 09:53:00 PM
Its all very well talking about young players and 3/4 years effort from sambo and woody. In three years Tosh will be 31 still young enough for county hurling as will be watson and Paddy Richmond. We cannot afford to loose that scoring power. The sign of good management is getting the best out of what is available. Its all very well building a side for the U-21 championship but this is meant to be a senior team. With the exception of Watson, who it appears from the outside did not behave himself, the other senior players appear to have been badly treated. After getting subbed after 10 mins I would wonder if Pinky will appear for next season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 09, 2007, 10:07:49 PM
Slow corner back, have to agree with you. Pinky went straight home after being subbed, they made him a bit of a scapegoat. He was skinned for 1 goal but the halfbacks and corner backs were letting the men run in unchallenged. I would say when everyone is on their game Tosh is our best forward, but he knew at the start of the year Sambo didnt rate him and he knew himself if he wasnt going great he was going to be the first one getting called ashore. It must be great for a players confidence knowing if he misses a couple of balls he is getting the hook, unfortunately that trend is not uniform throughout the team. I think we have to respect the players decision to walk away, they dont owe S & W anything, its easy for people outside looking in to cast doubt on their character or commitment. I know Mc Fall isnt to everyones liking, someones jibe (Colonel i think) about the colour of his boots was particularly petty, but it seems as if he has been particularly pissed about. If the management didnt rate him why didnt they drop him at the start of the year when they cut the panel. There are more questions than answers about the Antrim management at this point......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on July 09, 2007, 10:56:13 PM
I really don;t get this S&W bashing.  in the short time he was on on sat, pinky was skinned and the management did the right thing in changing it, a change that brought us back in the match.  he just didn;t have the pace (personally, i think that pinky needs to be up front at this stage).  credit the guys for a brave decision.  if they hadn;t made the change we would have experts coming on to this sight telling us they should have done it.  they had to be ruthless.  as for tosh, he was completely absent against clare so why did he think he had a god given right to start the next day??- should past glories guarantee the guys a place irrespective of form??  ditto for mc fall.  he did enough in 10 mins against clare to show why the management see him as a squad player only.  ditto for DD Quinn- ryan has shown in the games to date why S&W were prepared to give him a chance.  his shot stopping has been good, he distribution against laois was top notch and he seems to have another 5/10 yards on his puck outs.  DD dropped so he walks out- who do these guys think they are?

Quote from: slow corner back on July 09, 2007, 09:53:00 PM
With the exception of Watson, who it appears from the outside did not behave himself, the other senior players appear to have been badly treated.

What is the evidence that the senior players were 'badly treated', cause I havn't seen any??  is it just that they got dropped when they weren't playing well?


yes, i agree, duffin didn;t work out but i would guess that point was not lost on the management, although with so many walkouts, options are limited.

we have definitely made progress this year.  yes, I would like to see a bit more experience in the team but none of the older guys have a god given right to a starting slot.  if their from isn;t up to it, then someone else must be given a chance.

against galway, based on last two weeks, my team would be

ryan, m kettle, m mc cambridge, s delargy, a graffin, karl mc keegan, c herron, p magill, j campbell (in absence of anyone else),mc crory (if not on hols still), pinky (if available), mc manus, shane, m herron, p shiels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 10, 2007, 09:19:02 AM
Agree with Podge. Certain people do not have a devine right to play.
S&W are no messiahs but its worth everyone giving them a proper shot. Not the chance that wwas given to Jingo but a proper go.
If Tosh walks off for good, if McFall doesn't come back next year so be it...this year regardless of what happens on saturday we have positives...The emergence of McGarry, Graffin, Delargy, Magill, M Herron (playing rightly), McManus and Shields. The return to form of C Herron, Mc Cambridge and leadership shown by those two and McKeegan.

If those can be combined with the return of Richmond, Molloy, Watson and Tosh...there is hope.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 10, 2007, 09:27:33 AM
No one ever said they have a right to play and i cant imagine either player thinking like that. S & W said before the Laois game there was no way Brendan Herron would have as bad a game again, because they said that there was no way they would take him off, thus proving themselves wrong......he hardly hit a ball on Saturday. Its that kind of thinking and lack of consistencey across the board that gets people to asking questions, its not "S & W bashing", some people are of the opinion that because its S & W people are not allowed an opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 10, 2007, 10:58:27 AM
Does anyone think that playing shiels as an extra defender is really working? I think we need an extra defender but I am not sure Shiels is the man for the job, I think he would be more dangerous in the forwards. Personally for Galway I would name Pinky in the forwards but bring him back to mark Eugene Cloonan, Cloonan is not going to hurt anyone with pace unlike the Laois guy last saturday. That would free Mickey Kettle to play sweeper or possibly make Mickey mark the centre forward and have Johnnny Campbell as sweeper. It is obvious that man to man marking is not Campbells strong suite so why not try him as the spare defender?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 10, 2007, 11:36:40 AM
Slow Corner Back...a couple of us were mystified at the tactic being used when Antrim had a spare man on Saturday.
Shields has a good head on him and is a good distributor but agree he could do more damage up front.
Karl McKeegan would be the pefect man for that extra defender role...smart good reader and can defend a bit of questioned but we'd be robbing Peter to pay Paul in doing that as he's having a good year in midfield.

Campbell didn't actually have a bad game saturday I thought. He cleared a fair bit but much like B Herron often did not even look where he was clearing it.

I personally think Mickey K has to mark..he's one of our better ones at doing that.

Agree about B Herron, a change should have been made v Laois, and agree that Sambo and Woody deserve criticism where it is due but not for the call on Pinky and not for benching Tosh after the Clare.

Just heard from someone who thinks that Tosh is back on board. Good news if so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 10, 2007, 11:41:53 AM
From today's Irish News back page......

QuoteMcIntosh counting himself in for Antrim

By Brendan Crossan

ANTRIM hurling ace Johnny McIntosh last night made a dramatic U-turn on his decision to quit the panel – but Brian McFall confirmed his inter-county career was over. Both players made their decisions to retire last weekend, but McIntosh has now declared himself available for Antrim's All-Ireland Qualifier against Galway on Saturday. The Glenariffe clubman told managers Terence McNaughton and Dominic  McKinley he had played his last game for the Glensmen after coming on as a second half substitute during last Saturday's 10-point win over Laois. However, McIntosh (28) revealed he will finish the season with Antrim before bidding farewell.

"I contemplated finishing after the Laois game, but when I saw it in the paper today, I thought that I should see the season out and travel down for the Galway game," said McIntosh. "I decided long ago that this would be my last year and I wanted to go out on a high
note. But I didn't want people to think that I was going under a cloud because I've a lot of time for Woody and Sambo."
He added: "If the door's open for me I would would travel down with the team this weekend. I spoke to a lot of people who advised me to see the year out." McIntosh cited family and work commitments for his decision to retire at the end of this season, but offered to help McNaughton and McKinley with the seniors next season. Meanwhile, Antrim favourite Brian McFall (below) has no intentions of returning to the fold after a frustrating season spent mostly on the bench. The St John's attacker, who was nominated for an Allstar in 2002, revealed that he could no longer remain on the panel as a substitute. "I just couldn't go on anymore," said McFall (30). "I tried to stick it out until the end of this year, but I just felt I was wasting my time. I don't think I was in the managers' plans from day one. I'm sorry this is the way it's finished, but there was no other way to look at it, I just had to make a decision. "I just couldn't sit on the bench any longer. When Sambo and Woody got the job I was looking forward to having a good year, but I didn't really get a look-in.
"There were a few boys who walked away earlier in the year because they never got games. I decided to stick it out, but then I was getting overlooked for team selection." He added: "I've known Sambo for a life-time and I get on well with him, so I know it wasn't anything personal. I'd be up front with him and he'd be up front with me. I don't know why he didn't like my style of hurling or  whatever; I just couldn't understand it. "I thought about leaving after the Ulster final, but I decided to keep sticking it out, but I just couldn't do it. I'm a wee bit sad about it, but life goes on. I have no regrets. My mind's clear with the decision." Despite his disappointment, McFall has backed both McNaughton and McKinley to bring success in the coming years. "I think the two boys will do well and they are slowly but surely making progress. I definitely think we'll make the breakthrough at some stage. The young lads in the side have shown up well and they can mix it with the best of them."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 10, 2007, 12:30:50 PM
Good luck to the boys in their retirement form inter county, it's a pity Tosh wont stay on next year as he is one of our best forwards. S & W are trying to build for the future. If Antrim had a full team with everyone on board(watson, richmond etc) they still wouldnt beat one of the top teams in championship hurling. By playing these young boys now in 3 or 4 years time they will have the experience to hopefully challenge,as they are certainly a talented bunch. Cos the training they are doing will stand them in good sted in the long run. This is going to require alot of commitment, dedication & most of all patience(especially from fans). Most of us arent going to agree with this,  & some of the decisions are going to baffle us(as they have done), but they feel in their opinion that this is for the benefit of Antrim hurling in the long term. We are in a process of rebuilding....it's not as if we are battling for top honours year in year out.

On saturday's match, they were right to take Pinky off, he hasnt the pace for inter county hurling. He maybe should have been used in the full forward line. Ciaran Herron was excellant, thought Micky Monty had a good game again.Karl also had a good game but Brendan Herron was poor again,a couple of times he was ball watching in the first half & as Glensman said his distribution was poor. Michael Herron works very hard but is too slow on the ball sometimes. McManus was agin quiet in the first half but improved in the second half. Duffin...just not near good enough....no harm to him as he's a good fella, good attitude & traind hard but just not good enough. I think in a few years Shorty, when he fills out will be a cracker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on July 10, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
I understand that young Hippy Donnelly is close to full fitness. Don't know if he is on the senior squad but S&W could do much worse than throw him straight in against Galway at either full-forward or full-back. He's one of the best high-fielders about and could well be the target-man that S&W are seemingly looking for.

He has been hampered with injury, but when fully fit and with a couple of more years experience he will be one of the best hurlers to come out of Antrim in recent years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 10, 2007, 04:25:37 PM
this thread is in danger of turning into the hippy donnelly fans forum. 

he's a fine hurler but can we let him get out of minor before turning him into the saviour of antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 10, 2007, 05:03:29 PM
You lads hav a chip on shoulder about young hippy! He is the best prospect in antrim in last 15 years bar no one...that includes mcmanus, herron, watson etc etc.......

Regarding County minors who have drawn Kilkenney - it is a shambles at present....if you read my past messages regarding this, nothing has changed....numbers at training range from 12-18 on a consistent basis.......now you can blame players attitudes etc etc, BUT WHY WAS THAT PROBLEM NOT THERE LAST YEAR??? Leadership comes from the top and McStravick is lacking big time. I hear training is brutal and all good work done past 3 years , its back to typical old antrim, anything will do...it will be rightly etc....... Cross and Passion got to All-Ireland final earlier this year but as far as i know have only 2 on panel........Something must be wrong.....Any suggestions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 10, 2007, 05:52:22 PM
No one has a chip on their shoulder about Hippy Donnelly. No doubt that he has alot of talent but he hasnt done that much at senior club level just yet, Neil was a major star in our run to win 2 championship by the the time he left minor. I'd be abit worried about his lack of mobility but he has a great hand on him. Lets give the chance to get his injuries cleared up before we put more pressure on him or else he could be scunnered by the time he's 21.

NA...Also heard that training is a joke & I fear a return to the 15 point drubbings we have suffered in the past. The huge effort of the last two years has to be put in every single year not just every once in a while. There is still a basis of a very good team as there is still some quality there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 10, 2007, 11:10:16 PM
Glenariffe beat Ballycran tonight 2-15 to 2-13 in Ballycran, a good result, not often we get a result down there. The star of the show was undoubtedley the referee, the bould Deccy Magee. f**k me i have never seen a more incompetent man in my life, its a wonder there isnt a riot evertime he refs a game. The Ballycran players/supporters were going mad at him at the end but he was brutal for both teams. A nyway hopefully this result will get us back on track after a few poor results, Ballycran still havent won a game as far as i know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 11, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
Good result Balboa......

Things turning for championship...who do you play in championship first....can you see you folk getting by Dunloy or Loughguile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 11, 2007, 12:52:43 PM
Just after reading on the North Antrim site that the messiah Liam (CJ) Watson is back training with the bodies!!!! What a surprise there!!!

McCracken - can you enlighten us on the details...some vicious rumours goin around aboout MONEY, HEAD BUTTS etc etc....What really happened??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on July 11, 2007, 01:09:21 PM
Good news for the Antrim Championship that Watson is back. An excellent Hurler and an antrim chempionship game with him involved will always be a good one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 11, 2007, 01:56:53 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 11, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
Good result Balboa......

Things turning for championship...who do you play in championship first....can you see you folk getting by Dunloy or Loughguile?

We play Dunloy first, we havent been going as well this year but maybe things are turning at the right time. It will take a massive effort to beat Dunloy but we know what is in front of us. If we have 1 or 2 players not performing we will be beaten so everyone will have to be going at their full potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on July 11, 2007, 04:52:57 PM
Wednesday 18 July 2007
7:30PM
Ulster U21 HC Down v Antrim
VENUE: Ballycran

has a squad been picked for this? if so, have these boys trained together?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 11, 2007, 05:33:04 PM
STOP PRESS.......Tosh is off the Antrim panel because he didnt train last night (he was playing a league game against Ballycran), but he is only off the panel until AFTER the Galway match. Is anyone aware of any games we have scheduled for after this weekend? You couldnt make it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 11, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
no offence to the glenarrif boys who beat Ballycran down there, but we beat them without seven of our main players.

ballycran this year seemed to be out of luck, injuries, county committments, and bad luck (we scored a goal in the last minute to win by 2) they are currently bottom of the table. i'm sure they will bounce back.

championship around the corner so far out of the teams we have played Dunloy seem to be top of the tree but league counts for nothing, Cushendall and Loughgiel will be there, out of belfast the Johnnies have been training 3 nights a week we are also training three nights aweek........for football Gorts not sure how they will perform and Rossa well you never know

we play Ballycastle on Sunday and if we bring down a strong squad it should be tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 11, 2007, 07:31:30 PM
Milltown when will youse ever have a full team out? Football will always take precedence, especially as i would imagine youse will do well in the football championship this year. I think most team will be training 3 nights a week at the minute in run up to championship, we have been training 3 times a week for a couple of weeks now. The problem will not be your boys fitness levels, it will probably be the sharpness that plenty of ballwork brings. Anyway roll on championship !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 12, 2007, 03:47:40 PM
North Antrim Residential Summer Hurling Camp
Details in Attachment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 13, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
Any word of a starting 15 for the Galway match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 14, 2007, 04:39:39 PM
Well beaten down in Galway today, no great surprise. score 2-30 to 1-8 not sure if that is the final score but it hardly matters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 14, 2007, 04:42:41 PM
2-31 to 1-9. brutal. I expected 10-15 point defeat but not 25 points. antrim lead 1-5 to 1-4 at one stage according to Aertel..must have pissed them off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on July 14, 2007, 04:51:18 PM
they were 0-0 to 1-2 up at the start, so it was 33 scores to 7 after that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 14, 2007, 05:01:18 PM
Just heard Pinky got sent off after 15 mins for deliberate striking.At that stage Antrim were 8-1 up........& then off the wheels fell off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron exile on July 14, 2007, 09:54:18 PM
Was at the game. very disappointing after an excellent start 1-04 to 0-1 after 20 mins. Then after Galway's goal  to make it 1-4 to 1-3 a schmozzle started around the the middle of the field. Ref didn't deal with it properly it boiled over and Pinty exchanged pleasanteries with Ger mahon (I think). Its the age old no-no, never get involved in a fight when you're winning. Still was a reasonable game until half-time. About five mins in Galway took over. Don't like to criticise management but positional changes had to be made earlier in the second half against an admittedly stiff breeze. The tactic of playing 4 forwards with Shields playing in the backs should have been abandonned when we lost a man. Galway just moved up a player on Shields and had 7 forwards. Kerrill wade (man of match in my head), Niall Healy,Kevin Broderick tore the full-back line asunder.
couldn't face the last ten mins and had to leave early for the first time ever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 16, 2007, 10:27:45 AM
went down to play Ballycastle yesterday, beat by a point in the senior game, for a team who are training full pelt for championship i'd say they have no chance. we have not trained in 2 weeks due to football, and players not bothering to turn up and still should have taken something from the game. from the reserve game 9 players ended up going straight out and played the whole of the senior game.

we have the potenial but the wrong attitude. still it gave us a good session before we play the Lamhs next week. thought the referee was poor for both and denied us a late free to tie the game. he also blew right on 60 minutes but was telling me during the game that he was adding on stoppages.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 16, 2007, 02:00:47 PM
Dim Dim's 'tackle' on McKeague was as dirty a challenge as you'll see all year and fully deserved the red card and should be a minimum of 3 month suspension.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 16, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
We were very poor yesterday against st galls. We should have been beaten. We have too many boys who cant run. Pinky was poor and big ronan got roasted at full back........we wont cut much delph this year if that display is anything to go by. we aredown to play Dall next week but we are looking it called off cos of County minors play next week also.

Maxpower - i though you would beat loughguile yesterday...thats twice this year they have beat you by a point. Are you lads not shaping up well? Do u think loughguile will count this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 16, 2007, 02:49:18 PM
Yeah we were very poor yesterday, loughgiel were just slightly less poor. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 16, 2007, 03:53:04 PM
Colonel...certainly sounds like a 'bit of craic' alright...end of the hurl in the face, left hook, drawing round someone's face.
Not sure what needs to happen to someone on a hurling field in those kind of matches for a bit of control to be imposed.
I'm all for rivallry and it doesn't come more raw than Dunloy Loughgeil but what happened sounds a bit too much.

Was Watson playing for the bodies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 16, 2007, 04:11:46 PM
no dont think he was playing. hes training but not allowed to play yet! Loughguile seem to be playing a different style this year....they used to throw up big scorelines, and concede quite a bit. This year they are not scoring big scores, but are conceding even less. They must be concentrating on this side of their game???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 16, 2007, 04:26:35 PM
seems unfair of you north Antrim, were you that poor because we looked stronger or were you missing a load of players and the balance of the team was bad.

i though our lads were the better team, and finished the stronger, two soft goals we gave away made the difference we hit the cross bar twice and McGarry pulled of two great stops from Karl Stewart. some people would say Karl should not be on the county team, what would your thoughts be after seeing him play?

youv'e championship next week, if that were you at full strength then you'll have problems. hippy playing was he? thought Quasie kept you in the game with his long range free taking ronan is the age of me to slow for senior great hurler but who plays the high balls into the square anymore.

the Johhnies will be looking to give you a beating. they have been training hard. good luck next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 17, 2007, 12:17:06 PM
Cushendall are away to Dunloy tonight. Heard it might have been moved to thursday night due to the county U21's match tomorrow might. Maxpower/skull have yous boys heard anything??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on July 17, 2007, 12:27:09 PM
Doe anyone know if Cushendall's championship match with Ballycastle be going ahead on Sunday night as listed on the Antrim website?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 17, 2007, 12:39:05 PM
Don't know ROE. Who are the U21's playing?

Checked the Antrim Website (cut and paste below)
Maneely McCann Division 1 Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Dunloy    Cushendall    Dunloy   17/07/2007   19:30   Ray Matthews   Not Played

would look like somethings afoot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on July 17, 2007, 12:46:42 PM
The match is still on tonight in Dunloy. I know that the cushendall county u21's are playing tonight and I guess the Dunloy lads will be playing too.

The championship match on Sunday has now been changed to its original date, Wednesday 25th @ 1930 in Cushendall. This is due to the Minors playing on Sunday. The fixture is shown on the Antrim website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on July 17, 2007, 01:01:15 PM
So the Championship is just about to get underway in the next week or so.............. Anyone got any views on the round one matches, team news, injuries etc etc.

Senior Hurling Championship Group 1
Team 1                 Team 2           Venue              Date              Time         Referee      Comment
Lamh Dhearg          St. Galls           Lamh Dhearg    22/07/2007     19:00       Francis Traynor Round 1 
Glenariff                 Dunloy            Glenariff            29/07/2007     15:00      Gerard Robinson Round 1

Senior Hurling Championship Group 2
Team 1                 Team 2           Venue              Date              Time         Referee      Comment
Cushendall             Ballycastle         Cushendall        25/07/2007     19:30        Tommy McIntyre Round 1 
Rossa                    Gort Na Mona    Rossa              29/07/2007      15:00        Owen Elliott Round 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 17, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
Any optimism on this years minors? Worth going to see on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 17, 2007, 01:14:48 PM
So the Championship is just about to get underway in the next week or so.............. Anyone got any views on the round one matches, team news, injuries etc etc.

Senior Hurling Championship Group 1
Team 1                 Team 2           Venue              Date              Time         Referee      Comment
Lamh Dhearg          St. Galls           Lamh Dhearg    22/07/2007     19:00       Francis Traynor Round 1 
Glenariff                 Dunloy            Glenariff            29/07/2007     15:00      Gerard Robinson Round 1

Senior Hurling Championship Group 2
Team 1                 Team 2           Venue              Date              Time         Referee      Comment
Cushendall             Ballycastle         Cushendall        25/07/2007     19:30        Tommy McIntyre Round 1 
Rossa                    Gort Na Mona    Rossa              29/07/2007      15:00        Owen Elliott Round 1


Id say it will be:
St Galls
Dunloy
Cushendall
Rossa (if they get their act together)

Think this is just coming at the right time for Dunloy hear they are getting some injuries back which should strenthen their team considerably. However I would say cushendall are still up there, depends if they still have the hunger to go for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2007, 02:40:31 PM
Cloot

According to a friend they haven't really been training very much and there isn't much hope.

Not sure if this is true...perhaps others can confirm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 17, 2007, 02:57:09 PM
they've been training away but numbers aren't great from what I've been told.  also from the player i was talking to the actual training is piss poor.

they beat ballycastle u21's the other night in a challenge match in Ballycastle by a point i think, or maybe were beat by a point - can't exactly remember.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 18, 2007, 02:57:12 PM
Well the Cushendall match was played last night. Dunloy won by 2 points. A better effort from us which was needed after the Loughgiel match.

With the U21 match against Down tonight and this match being played, I think this underlines the MASSIVE improvement in the fixtures this year compared to the last 10 years at least. Many's a county manager would have been calling for the match to have been called off but it was allowed to be played with full squads which is what is needed to get the bite back into the leagues again. Sambo and Woody deserve alot of credit for this as I'm sure county officials and I hope they keep it up year on year. They hopefully realise it's the only way to improve standards in the County and that the sacrifices being made to county preparations will be worth it in the long run.
Title: Minor Team for Sunday
Post by: aontroim on July 18, 2007, 05:21:00 PM
Same 15 from Ulster Final win - with a couple of positional changes. Surprised that the same 15 have survived as there were only a few at best who were worthy of retaining a place after a mediocre showing in the Ulster Final.

1. David McNally - Gort Na Móna
2. Tony McCloskey - Shamrock's Loughgiel
3. Cormac Donnelly - McQuillan's Ballycastle
4. Terry McAllister - Ruairi Og Cushendall
5. Brendan Cousins - Gort Na Mona
6. Thomas McCann - Kickhams Creggan
7. Stephen Shannon - O'Donovan Rossa
8. P.J O'Connell - Clooney Gaels Ahoghill
9. Conor Rocks -O'Donovan  Rossa
10. Micheal McCarthy - Ruairi Og Cushendall
11. Peter Dallat - McQuillan's Ballycastle
12. Conor Carson - Ruairi Og Cushendall
13. Liam McKillop - Shamrock's Loughgiel
14. Anton McCaffery - St. Gall's
15. Darren Hamill - Shane O'Neill's Glenarm
Title: Re: Minor Team for Sunday
Post by: Square Ball on July 18, 2007, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim on July 18, 2007, 05:21:00 PM

12. Conor Carson - Ruairi Og Cushendall
1

Is that Jackies son?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 18, 2007, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2007, 09:01:13 PM
Aontroim 3-24
An Dun 0-11
If Aertel is to be believed

I wonder will this mirror the seniors, winning Ulster easily then too big a step up against the free staters......
Title: Re: Minor Team for Sunday
Post by: Balboa on July 18, 2007, 09:07:51 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on July 18, 2007, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim on July 18, 2007, 05:21:00 PM

12. Conor Carson - Ruairi Og Cushendall
1

Is that Jackies son?

It is and he is a big fella like the oul boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on July 18, 2007, 09:13:02 PM
I know the da, is Conor a lazy big shit like is da? All the talent in the world, but needed a good kick up the backside to get him started, thon big lollopy languid stride of his.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 18, 2007, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on July 18, 2007, 09:13:02 PM
I know the da, is Conor a lazy big shit like is da? All the talent in the world, but needed a good kick up the backside to get him started, thon big lollopy languid stride of his.

Aye the young fella seems to be a carbon copy, probably doesent have the same talent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on July 18, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
Downs first get together was last night(tue) with 16 turning up, county board members were ringing asking for players to go tonight, even not to play but to make it look like a panel. Slight difference in preparation from antrim who had 24 at a meeting the other nite, with 4 excused! :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 18, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Jesus lads, go easy on big jackie. A great character of the game who had his flaws yes (let he who is without flaws cast the first stone  :-\) but on his day he was unstoppable. Hard not to like the big man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 18, 2007, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 18, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Jesus lads, go easy on big jackie. A great character of the game who had his flaws yes (let he who is without flaws cast the first stone  :-\) but on his day he was unstoppable. Hard not to like the big man.

I dont think anyone is being too hard on Big Jackie, its all a bit of craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 19, 2007, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 18, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Jesus lads, go easy on big jackie. A great character of the game who had his flaws yes (let he who is without flaws cast the first stone  :-\) but on his day he was unstoppable. Hard not to like the big man.

Even though he's cut lumps out of me (probably deserved it  ;) )I'd be incline to side with skull, he may of gurned in your ear for the full hour but always shook hands at the end and that was that. The way it should be IMO.

Has he got a young fella in and around the 20 mark? fecking hell you start breeding early up there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 19, 2007, 12:17:34 PM
JC..Conor is on the minor team..he's arounf 17/18. Wouldnt have the same talent as big Jackie who in his prime was a super hurler & as skull said a great character...never a dull moment with big jack about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 19, 2007, 04:39:50 PM
I see the good doctor (John Mc Sparran) was castigating GAA websites today in the Irish News, players/management being criticised by name, he said this kind of "nonsense" has to stop. Maybe his first port of call should be the official North Antrim GAA website, some of the stuff they have allowed on it in the past has been disgraceful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on July 19, 2007, 05:07:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 18, 2007, 10:51:03 PM
Jesus lads, go easy on big jackie. A great character of the game who had his flaws yes (let he who is without flaws cast the first stone  :-\) but on his day he was unstoppable. Hard not to like the big man.

TheSkull1

wasnt getting at Jackie at all and I am sorry if it has come accross as that, a very talanted hurler indeed and a gent as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Real Laoislad on July 19, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
Whats the craic with the Christy Ring next year Do Laois and Antrim have to playoff or are Laois gone straight down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 19, 2007, 06:42:27 PM
LL Laois and Dublin have to playoff to decide who goes down into the CRC - Antrim were safe as they didnt finish bottom of 1A.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 20, 2007, 10:34:11 AM
Due to the tragic circumstances in Kilkenny - if their senior match is called off would it be the case that the minor match is also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 20, 2007, 01:12:38 PM
Just heard that all 3 games have been called off. Will now be played on Saturday week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 20, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on July 19, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
Whats the craic with the Christy Ring next year Do Laois and Antrim have to playoff or are Laois gone straight down?

I read somewhere else on here that there is no relegation from the Liam McCarthy this year and no promotion from the Christy Ring
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on July 20, 2007, 04:39:34 PM
Anyone got any news on the Cushendall v Ballycastle championship match due to be played on wednesday? Now that the Antrim Minor match has been put back to next weekend, will this match also be changed. I don't think the minor manager will let his players play on wednesday night if they are playing on saturday week. Maybe the Cushendall v Ballycastle match will now be played this sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 23, 2007, 12:41:08 PM
in a poor enough game last night we edged out Lamhs by 2 points. game was spoiled by niggling frees and (i hate rereree bashing) a poor referee. thought Lamhs had it won and with ten to go were 4 up and looking good, they then had two men sent off, one harshly the other (Micko) for slabbering.

on this showing we would need to improve for Dunloy, but were still there hopefully Lamhs could do us a turn in their remaining games, as they are still a strong enough outfit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 23, 2007, 02:04:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 23, 2007, 12:41:08 PM
in a poor enough game last night we edged out Lamhs by 2 points. game was spoiled by niggling frees and (i hate rereree bashing) a poor referee. thought Lamhs had it won and with ten to go were 4 up and looking good, they then had two men sent off, one harshly the other (Micko) for slabbering.

on this showing we would need to improve for Dunloy, but were still there hopefully Lamhs could do us a turn in their remaining games, as they are still a strong enough outfit

Was at the game Milltown, have to agree it was pretty poor fare, i thought youse would have been better. As bad as the ref was i thought it looked like a hard game to ref, with the constant squealing and dissent everytime a decision went against each team, im sure the vast majority of frees were moved 10 metres forward for dissent. I know its hard to say nothing when you are playing but its a killer when a free is given and is out of scoring range but is then moved forward and is stuck over the bar. We play Dunloy on Sunday and will need a massive effort against them to get close, cant see past Dunloy & Loughguile coming out of the group. Does CJ always play out the pitch even though he was No 13, he didnt get involved in general play that much other than clear up a bit of loose ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 23, 2007, 02:37:46 PM
Yeah the game was always going to be tight, big hatred for some reason between both sets of players. If we had have stuck to the game plan then things would have been grand. But right away we started to lose players Andy McLean then Mackers and finally Terry our fullback. We started to unravel and lost out. But we knuckled down and we got back into it. Lamhs wanted to continue to fight.

We've a month off to get ready for Dunloy. Regarding CJ dropping back he's done it once before and it worked well. Yesterday it didn't, can't see us using it again once we went 15 on 15 we ran out winners. To be fare our goalkeeper was outstanding and saved our bacon. Had Micko stuck his chances over the bar then it would be a different story now. But we are still there. And playing yourselves last at home will mean we have something to play for (I hope)

Heading down to watch your game this week, is it at your pitch or Dunloys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 23, 2007, 02:43:53 PM
We are at home then Loughguile away, so in all reality our game with youse may be meaningless for us. Noticed Johhny Flynn and Kieran Mc Gourty were not playing, are they on holidays? Agree with you about Micko, everytime he got the ball he was going for goal, if he took his pts they would probably have won. He loves kissing the jersey and punching the air after a score so maybe thats why he was going for goal so often. The big No 11 for them, Joe somedody, all he ever wants to do is fight and wrestle if he would get himself into better physical condition it would serve him better, he couldnt get out of his own way. Has Aidso Gallagher dropped down the pecking order? Noticed he didnt start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 23, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
johhny has packed it in this year work family reasons, McGourty playing in the states will be back next week. aidso and Gaga have been missing the last few games away to Ballygalget and ballycastle when we played well. thought it do no harm with them on the bench. good to have to come on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 24, 2007, 08:19:25 AM
"We are at home then Loughguile away, so in all reality our game with youse may be meaningless for us."

Tsk, Tsk, have you lost the eye of the Tiger, Mr Balboa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 25, 2007, 09:29:38 AM
This thread has gone very quiet recently. we all been yarning away for weeks/months when there was little or no real hurling action taking place. senior championship has started and everyone disappears off the thread/board!!

Anyway holders Cushendall v Ballycastle tonight. Are the town going in without their minors or whats the story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on July 25, 2007, 10:32:12 AM
I wouldn't think Ballycastle will be playing without their minors - Hippy is one of their best players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 25, 2007, 10:48:40 AM
Agreed. Ballycastle seem to be stronger this year than in recent times, and although Cushendall should see it through i can see it being a tight game. hopefully it stays dry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 25, 2007, 11:27:20 AM
havent played Cushendall this year, played the town twice this year. i'd say Ballycastle would need to improve from the game they played against us, Hippy looked very slow for a minor. strong in the air but if there is someone nippy on him he's lost for pace same for Ronan at fullback great under the high ball and strong as a bull but pace will beat him. Cushendall again this year have not played too many league games, must be very annoying being a non county player in Cushendall (although they all seem to be on the team).

will Glenariff cause a shock in Waterfoot this Sunday? Tosh looked off his game the last few time i've seen him for the county and against us what other games on this Sunday? think Rossa play Gortnamona, should not be a problem for Rossa who seem to be getting some form back after a poor start to the season.

not sure where Gorts will do any damage in this game, but their pitch is very tight and it may suit them better than the other teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 25, 2007, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 25, 2007, 11:27:20 AM

not sure where Gorts will do any damage in this game, but their pitch is very tight and it may suit them better than the other teams

Gorts would have better staying in Falls Park, i dont think we ever beat them up there. They were hard to work with, between the boys on scramblers doing laps of the pitch, no nets on the goalposts leading to "contentious" decisions and their supporters kicking the ball back into play when the ball when over the sideline. Ah the memories......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2007, 01:47:44 PM
I have to say cant see the town making any impact against cushendall, if it wasnt in the dall then maybe but not away from home.

Cant see dunloy slipping up on the coast, Glenariffe would need to behave better than they have up to this point or they could get a complete lesson. Do they not realise that the likes of Cushendall Dunloy and loughgiel can take the physical stuff and dish out as well as hurling at the same time. I thought they might have learned this by now but they dont seem to be catching on.

could be a close enough championship with the johnnies improving.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on July 25, 2007, 10:36:57 PM
Easy win for the dall tonight over ballycastle.  Thought ballycastle might have put it up to them a bit more and they must be disappointed.  Never looked like winning.

I see in Div 2 Clooney Gaels have had a another good result with a win over Carey.  Fair play to the Gaels- the All Ireland run last year has clearly done them good and they are riding high in Div 2.  Good to see themselves and Tir Na Nog fielding strong hurling teams in the the south west area where traditionally football takes precedence.

They will both fancy their chances in the IHC which must be one of the most competitive chmpionships this year with at least 6 or 7 teams in with a shout.  Teams competing are Sars, St Pauls, Carey, Glenravel and St Teresa in one group and Clooney Gaels, Tir na Nog, Cushendun and Glenarm in the other.  Top two in each group into semis. 

Too close to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on July 25, 2007, 10:55:25 PM
St Johns won't count for me.  Its down to the dall, dunloy and a very outside chance for l'giel (if they get a roll and there is no evidence that they will).  Think the dall must be strong favorites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 25, 2007, 10:59:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2007, 10:50:07 PM
I have seen this on a couple of posts and I have to ask, Are you serious??
St. Johns coming anywhere close??

I agree, why has everyne got a boner for St Johns? In reaching the championship semis last year they drew with a poor Ballycastle team, got tanked by Cushendall and beat Glenariffe in Corrigan. They may have a good under 14 team but im not sure this will translate to Senior Championship success in 2007.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 25, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
I really really fancy Dunloy this year. It will be close in the 3 horse race but I can see Dunloy taking 'Big Ears' this year.

I have heard Loughguile are doing savage training this year & if they dont do it this year they never will. I fancy Dunloy to win it tis year too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 25, 2007, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2007, 11:19:25 PM
Loughguile go at it like fcuk every year. I am beginning to wonder if some of their players are giving up a bit though (i.e. thinking they can't do it).
A talented bunch of players that just can't do it on the day. Dunloy miss it big time though. 3 years in a row without winning it to their players who had great success will be eating away at them. They will be busting to take it again.

I think the change in management may stand to them, Hooker Connolly will have them prepared & ready to win i think, whether they do or not is probably in their head.In any event they will win f**k all without Master Watson firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 25, 2007, 11:26:41 PM
Yawn

What a poor match tonight down in cushendall. Ballycastle were simply dreadful in every area of the game. I'd love to know what they set out to do before the game because they looked headless out on the pitch. A shameful lack of effort. On that performance I can see the Johnnies coming out of that group with no problems whatsoever. They look as if they are up for it this year and will need to be watched.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 26, 2007, 08:26:22 AM
Quote from: podge on July 25, 2007, 10:55:25 PM
St Johns won't count for me.  Its down to the dall, dunloy and a very outside chance for l'giel (if they get a roll and there is no evidence that they will).  Think the dall must be strong favorites.

Bit harsh saying a very outside chance? on their day the big 3 are capable of all beating each other, so why would Loughgiel not have just as much a chance as the other 2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 26, 2007, 08:34:22 AM
As already saidlycastle were woeful last night, and I was one of the folk expecting to put up a decent show as they tend to do against Cushendall. Very dis-organised, lack of any sort of ideas & leadership.  To be fair they kept fighting and never gave up despite the match being over as a contest with no more than 10 mins gone.  Ryan McGarry in nets was about only one who had a decent game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 26, 2007, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on July 26, 2007, 08:34:22 AM
Ryan McGarry in nets was about only one who had a decet game.

Did Mc Garry not let a couple of soft goals in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 26, 2007, 09:55:53 AM
couldnt really see the goals in first half from where i was standing, even if they were soft it was more to do with some of the shambolic defending in front of him in the first place.  remember couple of good saves from him & a superb catch from a high ball under pressure in the 2nd half. thought he was going to be be ko'd couldnt believe it when he came running out with the ball!

yep the watch was so poor i have remembered wee things like this  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 26, 2007, 10:34:04 AM
Relegated teams to get league reprieve
26 July 2007


Difficulties over the 'home' and 'away' schedule in the proposed new structure for the 2008 National Hurling Leagues could see the number of teams in Division 1 increased from nine to 12.

That would mean a reprieve for Offaly, Laois and Antrim, all of whom are angry over the decision to relegate them to Division 2 while nine teams competed in the top flight. Offaly manager John McIntyre had strongly argued that it would be counter-productive to have a nine-team elite in the top flight, while counties like Offaly, Laois and Antrim operated at a lower level.

But it now looks as if there will be a major rethink after it emerged that it would take nine weeks to run off a 'home' and 'away' schedule, followed by two more to complete the semi-finals and final and possibly one more to decide on relegation issues.

Admitting that a rethink of the new structure was a possibility, the GAA's Head of Games Pat Daly said: "The way it's set up for 2008 would take up an awful lot of weekends to run off.

"There's no appetite to start the leagues before Christmas, so it has to be run off in spring but there's a limit to the amount of time available. There's a need to keep a decent gap between the end of the league and the start of the championship, while clubs have to be looked after too so that they aren't totally squeezed out by the county activity."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
They need to sort out the thing right and get an eight team division 1, 2,3  and 4. If we had it like this we would have realistic competitive games so have division 1 of kilkenny,cork, waterford, galway, limerick, tipperary,clare and then maybe wexford.

We could then be in division 2 with laois, offaly, dublin etc. Games which would be tough for us but manageable to win therefore division 1 would be an achievable promotion aim where you've actually beat good teams and learnt from it.. This division 2 nonsense at the minute where you could end up beating teams by 50+ points is no good to no-one. Realistically we're not in a position to compete wit the Kilkennys, Corks , Waterfords either so a division 2 with that calibre of teams would be useful enough.

The Offaly manager didn't care about Antrim or Laois either. He wanted a ten team to include his own team Offaly in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 26, 2007, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
They need to sort out the thing right and get an eight team division 1, 2,3  and 4. If we had it like this we would have realistic competitive games so have division 1 of kilkenny,cork, waterford, galway, limerick, tipperary,clare and then maybe wexford.

We could then be in division 2 with laois, offaly, dublin etc. Games which would be tough for us but manageable to win therefore division 1 would be an achievable promotion aim where you've actually beat good teams and learnt from it.. This division 2 nonsense at the minute where you could end up beating teams by 50+ points is no good to no-one. Realistically we're not in a position to compete wit the Kilkennys, Corks , Waterfords either so a division 2 with that calibre of teams would be useful enough.

The Offaly manager didn't care about Antrim or Laois either. He wanted a ten team to include his own team Offaly in it.

At the minute it is serving us no purpose playing Cork, Kilkenny, Waterford etc I know someone will be coming on here saying to compete with the best you have to play them but how many years have we played Div 1 and how many times have we come straight back down or went into a relegation playoff. It would be of more benefit to play Offaly, Dublin, Laois, teams of that calibre. What did our players learn this year getting hammered by Galway, Kilkenny and Limerick in the league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2007, 11:16:57 AM
Exactly - at the minute it's either hammer or be hammered for teams like Antrim the way the leagues stand with the very odd exception. This really needs to be sorted out for the good of hurling in general.

We are at the level of teams like Dublin and with a bit of work could hopefully overtake Offaly and Wexford. Dublin are progressing but even with their good young players I think we can progress as well and better than them if we sort out the club games and get a good competitive national league and I think the club leagues are definitely moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 27, 2007, 07:15:44 AM
Playing the likes of Meath. Roscommon, Kildare & Down will do nothing for Antrim hurling. I hope they see sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 27, 2007, 08:16:03 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on July 27, 2007, 07:15:44 AM
Playing the likes of Meath. Roscommon, Kildare & Down will do nothing for Antrim hurling. I hope they see sense.

And playing the likes of Kilkenny, Cork & Waterford will do nothing for Antrim hurling either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 27, 2007, 11:56:23 AM
thought i had noticed that early on in the game but didnt take any notice at the time or have a look to see who it was.

not much any potential opposition could have taken from the game in my opinion, was all too easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 27, 2007, 12:28:17 PM
Sure Glenariffe have already videoed Dunloy this year, dont think it will help them for sunday.

Dunloy's team hasnt been settled all year and i would expect a few changes on sunday again.

Never saw Ballycastle worse than the other night, did anyone spot the back pass to the goalie which lead to the 2nd goal.
Looked like the town had done alot of short drills as their long striking was terrible.

Dont think loughgiel are going to contend, too many kicks in the teeth makes them look like a demoralised team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 27, 2007, 08:14:05 PM
Loughgiel have to overcome St Galls, Glenariffe and Lamh Dearg to make a semi final. While it would be great for hurling in the county if one of these could spring a surprise I just cant see it. After that the shams are in a semi facing C,Dall, St Johns, Ballycastle or Rossa. If its the Dall they are in trouble if its not the dall then they will be in their fifth final in five years. Even going by the law of averages they are bound to win one eventually. All this talk of loughgiel being down in the mouth sounds like guff to me. Cushendall, going for three in a row are the team to beat, obviously. Dunloy and Loughgiel are close on their tails with a bit of a gap to the next level of contender, St Johns Rossa etc. Would love to see someone from outside the big three pull off a shock and make a final at least but cant see it to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: KIDDO on July 28, 2007, 01:33:31 PM
Antrim minors were defeated  by Kilkenny  this afternoon  in the  minor quarter final 2.31 to 0.6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on July 28, 2007, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: KIDDO on July 28, 2007, 01:33:31 PM
Antrim minors were defeated  by Kilkenny  this afternoon  in the  minor quarter final 2.31 to 0.6.

thats a heavy defeat in anyone's language
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on July 28, 2007, 05:43:59 PM
Who did Dublin beat in the Leinster minor final ? Was it Kilkenny > If so, Dublin must have some side ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 28, 2007, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 28, 2007, 05:43:59 PM
Who did Dublin beat in the Leinster minor final ? Was it Kilkenny > If so, Dublin must have some side ?

Or this was a poor Antrim minor team? The vibes all year from the minors have not been good, poor turnouits etc. You do not beat the Cats with 10 or 11 guys turning up for training. Add in the fact that 8 or 9 of the team played either senior hurling club championship or minor club football championship midweek it tells its own tale
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 28, 2007, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on July 28, 2007, 09:29:34 PM
Or this was a poor Antrim minor team? The vibes all year from the minors have not been good, poor turnouits etc. You do not beat the Cats with 10 or 11 guys turning up for training. Add in the fact that 8 or 9 of the team played either senior hurling club championship or minor club football championship midweek it tells its own tale

Your almost implying that the senior club championship match should have been postponed for this match scb? Have we not held club hurling back long enough in this county by focusing too much on the County teams (17 years to be precise) do you not think? I think in the long run the current approach being taken by the fixtures committee will prove a great success and long may it continue. Club hurling needs to be the focus for a lot of years if the standard of the game is to improve in this part of the world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 28, 2007, 11:36:22 PM
I heard that the young loughgiel lad laverty only got a 1 month suspension for what was IMO the dirtiest and most dangerous pull I've witnessed in about 20 years. He could have killed someone with that blow (I hope he has realized this now) but he only gets a month yet you tell a linesman/referee/umpire where to go and you get 3-6 months  ???. Unbelievable  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 30, 2007, 09:48:58 AM
i heard that last night as well, shocking decision.  as you say skull swear at the wrong ref and your out for 3 months, nearly take the head of a mans shoulder and you don't even miss a meaningful match.

What annoyed me most about that tackle/assault is that it appeared to hae been 'instructed' by the manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 11:10:47 AM
Skull were you at the game yesterday? It was tight enough in the 1st half but Glenariffe really needed to have a decent lead with that breeze at halftime. We struggled for scores in 2nd half and Dunloy cut loose to run out comfortable enough winners, i know youse have players to come back but on the evidence of yesterday youse would need a big improvement to win the championship. I think Liam Donnelly has maybe taken the mantle from Eugene Mc Hugh as the worst ref in the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 30, 2007, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 11:10:47 AM
I think Liam Donnelly has maybe taken the mantle from Eugene Mc Hugh as the worst ref in the county.

How has this man been let loose to officiate a SHC game? He is not even up to the standard of worst ref in the county - absolutely diabolical ref any time i've seen him in charge at any level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 30, 2007, 11:30:53 AM
Ok lads it has taken me a while to build up the courage after last weeks shambolic performance against the dall! We were so gutless, heartless that i was embarrassed to call myself a mcquillan....how humpy and dessie etc must be sick watching some of them lads.......granted we have some very young and some very old players, we are nowhere near the standard. Very few showed what is needed at this level. However after 3 days of getting my head around this, all is not lost. We play Rossa on thursday in U-21 semi final, and this is the most imprtant game in our clubs for about 15 years....why?? cos if we want to compete at senior level we need to win at this level first......If we get beat on thursday our SEASON is OVER!!!

took in Matches at Croke Park on Saturday...and yes Antrim were so poor!!! Its been a bad week for me :-X Only darren hamill, and young mcallister showed anything. Hippy was took to the cleaners in balls played into space......

What about Dunloy - decent win yesterday. Loughguile beat portaferry well away in league too.....when do they play c'ship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2007, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 30, 2007, 11:30:53 AM

What about Dunloy - decent win yesterday. Loughguile beat portaferry well away in league too.....when do they play c'ship?

Any score from the Ports/loughguile game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 30, 2007, 11:37:06 AM
Irish news today Portaferry 0-10 v 0-19 Loughguile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 11:50:26 AM
I was Rocky. We are still not championship material yet I totally agree. But our effort and endeavour is encouraging. If our younger players can realise they have what it takes then performances should improve. We have some very talented young players who are keen as mustard but just need to get into the groove of hurling in senior championship. There is every chance we will learn and improve. Sadly there is no sign of Glenariff learning (ref my post back at the end of April below). Are Glenariff people so blinkered that they do not see this. All your talented players are more interested in niggling, slapping and slabbering rather than hurling the ball. Youse will get nowhere until you realise dirty hurling is not hard hurling. 

Quote from: theskull1 on April 30, 2007, 10:02:58 AM
Played glenariff yesterday in Dunloy 3-20 to 2-9. Won easy enough in the end but made it more difficult for ourselves than it should have been, but in fairness Johnny Tosh is a great target man and he kept the game alive for them. Would love to know what the Glenariff players & mentors think their tactics are going to get them this year? Some brutal challenges made yesterday by them all over the field. Always on the lookout for the dirty slap instead of the ball. Could any glenariff contributors on here (not sure if I know of any :-\) defend how youse went about it yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2007, 11:54:24 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 30, 2007, 11:37:06 AM
Irish news today Portaferry 0-10 v 0-19 Loughguile

The Ports struggled for scores against us as well, but with BA Convery back in training he'll give them a much needed physical presence and aerial ability..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 30, 2007, 12:00:55 PM
Lay off the personnal abuse of refs lads. There's no need to name them. Especially if you're not prepared to put your real name to your comments.

When does your mob play Portaferry in the Down Championship Johnnycool?

u21 hurling semi finals this week. Not expecting too much from Rossa lads. What about the North Antrim affair?

Rossa v Ballycastle  Casement Park 02/08/2007 19:30
Dunloy v Loughgiel  Dunloy 02/08/2007 19:30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
Skull do you think that was a "dirty" game yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on July 30, 2007, 12:12:20 PM
Here here Guillem2- no need to be naming refs here if you are not prepared to do the job yourself.  if we want to improve the standard of refs, potential candidates need to know that they can give it a go in the knowledge that they won;t get personal abuse on sites such as this.

Those who are posting this stuff may think by a smart remark that these guys will give up or the powers that be will not appoint them to big games but they are actually being counterproductive in the long run- have a look at the bigger picture- personal attacks will do nothing to enourage guys to take up the job.

Havnt; seen the papers- how did gorts and rossa do?  fancied gorts to scare them a little..?

i notice the post elsewhere re Micko's behaviour in the football the other night- is he ever going to learn?  as soemone said, he needs to take a leaf out of his brother Ciaran's book.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2007, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on July 30, 2007, 12:00:55 PM

When does your mob play Portaferry in the Down Championship Johnnycool?



It's pencilled in for the 9th of September Guillem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 30, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
Podge - Rossa won 4-10 to 12 pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 30, 2007, 01:06:35 PM
Balboa, we have only 4 good hurling refs in this county:

T Mc Intyre (The Master)
R Matthews
G Duffy
O Elliott

Thats it lads, we have very little else these guys are the only guys that can handle difficult and high level C/Ship games, don,t see enough of them thats the problem, and i am sure they will agree with me. The 3 younger lads need more games, they Ref the way the played, we are too critical, then we can get good refs, we turn on them see it time and time again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 30, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
Every time Johnny McIntosh ran at the Dunloy goals he had a hand on either shoulder pulling him back. One belonging to each defender.

Also, the fullback kept poking and niggling him the whole time. Who's got the blinkers on? From what I seen both teams were at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 30, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
Every time Johnny McIntosh ran at the Dunloy goals he had a hand on either shoulder pulling him back. One belonging to each defender.

Also, the fullback kept poking and niggling him the whole time. Who's got the blinkers on? From what I seen both teams were at it.

Skull if you are going to whine then at least give a full picture, when Dick O'Kane drew off the Glenariffe FB twice off the ball do you class that as "hard" hurling or something more sinister, dare i say a dirty stroke from a Dunloy player?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
Skull do you think that was a "dirty" game yesterday?

Well your definition of "dirty" may well differ from mine

There wasn't one instance which stood out over the game which was really blatant, but the consistency (over the two games we've played this year) in which Glenariff were niggling, slapping and slabbering all over the park signalled to me that this is the way set out to play and in doing so forgot about hurling the ball in many occasions. Too many of your lads think they are hard men and they seem more interested in trying to show it than anything else. That wee runt docherty is a case in point....did nothing but try and act the hard man all day long (had to laugh at him squaring up to Malachy Molly) yet he did absolutley nothing with the ball yesterday. I am lead to believe he is meant to a fairly decent hurler when he puts his mind to it but the way he is going he is making a rod for his own back (i.e. oppisitions will target him for abuse).

As I told "The Truth" back in April....feel free to ignore everything I've said on the issue....it's only my 2 cents

   
Quote from: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 02:03:28 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 30, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
Every time Johnny McIntosh ran at the Dunloy goals he had a hand on either shoulder pulling him back. One belonging to each defender.

Also, the fullback kept poking and niggling him the whole time. Who's got the blinkers on? From what I seen both teams were at it.

Skull if you are going to whine then at least give a full picture, when Dick O'Kane drew off the Glenariffe FB twice off the ball do you class that as "hard" hurling or something more sinister, dare i say a dirty stroke from a Dunloy player?

AF/Rocky if youse went to see other matches between two neutral clubs you would realise that they don't hurl that way against other opposiiton whereas I am lead to believe that youse hurl that way all the time. Now that tells me that Glenariff are the common denominator. But you class every team as dirty as yourselves because they give back what youse give out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
Skull i never mentioned either teams "hard hurling/dirt" or whatever classification you use when i gave a brief match report, it was you that saw fit to comment but if i dont agree with you i will tell you. Dunloy are not a dirty team but Dicks two strokes were. Over & out. The saddest thing about yesterday was that it was pretty obvious Cushendall will be walking to another title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
Skull i never mentioned either teams "hard hurling/dirt" or whatever classification you use when i gave a brief match report, it was you that saw fit to comment but if i dont agree with you i will tell you. Dunloy are not a dirty team but Dicks two strokes were. Over & out. The saddest thing about yesterday was that it was pretty obvious Cushendall will be walking to another title.

So are Glenariff a dirty team? If not, how would you classify them?

As I've said before....youse end up getting back what you give out. I didn't see the incidents you are talking about as they were off the ball as you've said, but I'll bet Dick wasn't the one to start it.

Can't deny that Cushendall will be rubbing there hands today at the thought of another championship. We have to improve no doubt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 30, 2007, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 30, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
Every time Johnny McIntosh ran at the Dunloy goals he had a hand on either shoulder pulling him back. One belonging to each defender.

Also, the fullback kept poking and niggling him the whole time. Who's got the blinkers on? From what I seen both teams were at it.

You have to be joking, the first thing Johnny Tosh did when he went into full forward was hit our full back a belt, this straight after getting a booking.  2 minutes latter he swung a kick at our full back and astonishing wasn't pulled for it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
Skull i never mentioned either teams "hard hurling/dirt" or whatever classification you use when i gave a brief match report, it was you that saw fit to comment but if i dont agree with you i will tell you. Dunloy are not a dirty team but Dicks two strokes were. Over & out. The saddest thing about yesterday was that it was pretty obvious Cushendall will be walking to another title.

So are Glenariff a dirty team? If not, how would you classify them?

As I've said before....youse end up getting back what you give out. I didn't see the incidents you are talking about as they were off the ball as you've said, but I'll bet Dick wasn't the one to start it.

Can't deny that Cushendall will be rubbing there hands today at the thought of another championship. We have to improve no doubt

I will take a bit of your money then,he was hit twice off the ball and our FB didnt react because i have no doubt that clampett Donnelly would have only seen the retaliation and we would have been well and truly fcuked with a man down in the 1st half. I have seen enough Dunloy matches to know Dick is no angel. As for Seamus Doherty he will probably always play that way but when he is on his game he is a huge asset to us, it just didnt go for him yesterday and that happens too. I think he is 19 so i would say he has a fair few years to iron out whatever flaws you perceive him to have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 04:08:39 PM
Ouch  :D

;D
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2007, 03:49:51 PM
Dunloy are not a dirty team. It's their supporters that you have to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 30, 2007, 05:14:54 PM
Glenarrife wont be in the mix this year. Yes Cushendall are strong favourites but.....cliche city....Championship isnt won in July or August, but in Early October! Glenariffe have been at it all year

1. Friendly on St Patricks Day v Us
2.v  Dunly League
3. v Loughguile Ulster League
4. v Cushendall League
5. v Loughgiel league
6. v Dunloy championship

and im sure they are a few opther examples....they played good hurling last couple of years....Bout time they caught themselves on and went back to it.......MANAGEMENT must be the cause of it????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 30, 2007, 07:32:11 PM
Thats quite a little list you have there North Antrim. Have you been to all those matches yourself then? Or just regurgitating shite you prob read on this board?

I can't speak for all the matches, I havent been to them all but I can tell you that in the Ulster league, Loughguile clearly came out with the intention to try and intimidate a younger Glenariff team off the field. With hard, late tackles and dirty slaps all over the field.

Unfortunately some of the younger hotheaded Glenariff players reacted badly to this and retaliated. Instead of course of just laughing at the bunch of yobs they were playing that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on July 30, 2007, 08:44:22 PM
I cant honestly see where all this talk of glenariffe being a dirty team comes from....ive played them twice this year and haven't seen a dirty pull yet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on July 30, 2007, 09:38:35 PM
Re North Antrim. Where you at all the Glenariffe games? Or just concurring with the other bullshit you have read on this board. I have only been at the 2 Loughguile Glenariffe games so cant comment on the other ones. There was a bit of slashing in the Ulster League match from both teams but i always thought it was a contact sport, as for the League game there was not a dirty stroke in the game. Maybe if Ballycastle would pull the stick a bit more and show a bit more balls they wouldnt have put up the kind of gutless performance they did last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2007, 11:52:52 PM
Look lads the advice was for free so you don't have to take it. Just keep doing what youse are doing. Youse are obviously happy enough about the way you play the game so why listen to me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 31, 2007, 09:13:27 AM
Is it a coincidence that the glenarriffe minors where at it last night against us in minor championship.  admittedly some of our boys didn't react as we would expect which was dissapointing but again there was not doubt as too who started it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 31, 2007, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: maxpower on July 31, 2007, 09:13:27 AM
Is it a coincidence that the glenarriffe minors where at it last night against us in minor championship.  admittedly some of our boys didn't react as we would expect which was dissapointing but again there was not doubt as too who started it

Why dont you go and tell tales somewhere else Maxie,imagine minors getting a bit heated, surely its a first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 31, 2007, 09:43:25 AM
the point of the matter is, this dirty, off the ball, and niggly shit seems to be almost a culture of the glenarriffe club.  you can't expect senior to not engage in it if they have been involved in it for years.

From a glenarriffe viewpoint the worst of it is it was them, not Dunloy who lost composure when all the shi as going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 31, 2007, 10:43:12 AM
Cant believe anyone would come on this site and try and defend Glenariffe's tactics at the moment, do they not realise they cant mix and hurl at the same time. They have some good hurlers but they arent great. Tosh their main threat set the tone in the Dunloy game with a wild pull on Shields which he was rightly booked for and then should have got a second card for two kicks (which the referee saw) not 2mins later.

Anyway they dont matter anyway because they are going nowhere.


Heard some rumours about the Rossa Gorts game and some sledging can anyone shed any light on it?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 31, 2007, 10:48:08 AM
Quote from: NAG on July 31, 2007, 10:43:12 AM
Cant believe anyone would come on this site and try and defend Glenariffe's tactics at the moment, do they not realise they cant mix and hurl at the same time. They have some good hurlers but they arent great. Tosh their main threat set the tone in the Dunloy game with a wild pull on Shields which he was rightly booked for and then should have got a second card for two kicks (which the referee saw) not 2mins later.

Anyway they dont matter anyway because they are going nowhere.


Heard some rumours about the Rossa Gorts game and some sledging can anyone shed any light on it?


What you mean is that you saw reference on the HoganStand site that Sean Kelly was getting abit of stick from the Rossa sideline and you want to know if anyone knows. Whoever claimed the Glenariffe players were "great"? Can you name any "great" players currently playing in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on July 31, 2007, 10:52:07 AM
As a matter of fact i was at 5 out of the 6 games, last sunday being the only exception!!! So i was only putting forward my viewpoint. Like i said earlier our lads were gutless against cushendall, but i firmly believe we will beat Rossa and go on and win our first U-21 title. Now thats more than we can say for you lads.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 31, 2007, 10:54:26 AM
Balboa, very sensitive there.

I wasnt claiming that any one of their players are great, I meant that they arent a great side. They do have some good hurlers and my point was if they concentrated on hurling they might improve all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 31, 2007, 11:08:15 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on July 31, 2007, 10:52:07 AM
As a matter of fact i was at 5 out of the 6 games, last sunday being the only exception!!! So i was only putting forward my viewpoint. Like i said earlier our lads were gutless against cushendall, but i firmly believe we will beat Rossa and go on and win our first U-21 title. Now thats more than we can say for you lads.....

NorthAntrim i have thought this for a while and i think the official North Antrim website is the place for you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2007, 11:20:32 AM
This thread is fast approaching the same standard as the hogan stand message board.

Milltown I wouldn't classify that behaviour as typical "Belfast". It just takes a few individuals and that's what it has more than likely been.

Are the next round of senior games this sunday? I see st johns are to play Rossa - should tell us who the best team in Belfast is.

The next big one after that would be dunloy-loughgiel on the 9th of september. It's a pity these two always meet in the groups - would love to see them play in the knockouts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 31, 2007, 11:23:10 AM
Some interesting IHC Games this Sunday according to the Irish News;

Intermediate Hurling Championship Group 1 (3pm)
Glenravel v Carey Laughs (J McKinley);

Group 2: Shane O'Neills v Gael Chilean (C Cunning);

Also just spotted in S. Antrim fixtures;

Friday, August 3
Minor Hurling re-fixes, (7.45pm) Enright Park: Gort na Mona v Naomi Compile; - 3 new Antrim clubs in a week - things are looking up!


Fcuk me! Antrim Camogie Fixture;

Junior Championship: Portglenone v Britain Ogs (B Daly).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2007, 11:25:40 AM
Who would the favourites in the intermediate be?

I would imagine Carey, Glenarm and Ahoghill would be among the favourites? That would make the latter game a big one. Actually randalstown seem to be making good strides too so it could have the makings of a good championship.

Or are st pauls in it too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2007, 12:15:17 PM
wrong thread imtommygunn, but where you there?

think we're getting too involved in how glenariffe play hurling, yes they may be putting stick in but a lot of clubs do, our game against them was not dirty

like imtommygunn has said lets talk about the big games coming up how will Rossa do against the Johnnies next week?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2007, 12:34:07 PM
Oops, sorry wrong thread milltown. No I wasn't so don't want to cast aspersions on whoever was...

Who won the last c'ship game between Rossa and the Johnnies? Wasn't that Rossa?

St Johns seem on the up and Rossa on the down so should be interesting. If the city hurling power base doesn't move from St Johns to Rossa now I would expect it to soon but St Johns haven't improved as much as you would expect with their failure at u21 level a big sign of this. They have however been streets ahead in underage over the last 5 or 6 years with GNM now catching up a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 31, 2007, 12:40:51 PM
did st johns and rossa not draw in the league.  i'd imagine very little will seperate the teams in championship, but i think st johns will just edge it, was most impressed with them in the ulster league qf,
Title: IHC
Post by: podge on July 31, 2007, 12:46:59 PM
As I have said below, the IHC is one of the most competitive and very hard to call.  Any one of Sars, St Pauls, Carey, R'town, Glenarm, Clooney gaels will fancy their chances in this. 

Carey seem to have gone off the boil after a good start to the season.  They have lost their way.  St Pauls are unknown as they havn;t fielded anywhere near their best team this year- but it can;t be turned on like a switch.  Sars experience in Div 1 might help but I don;t fancy them.  Clooney Gaels must be the most improved team in Antrim with some great results.

Maybe I am going against the grain, but I fancy randalstown.  Seem to be coming good at the right time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 31, 2007, 12:54:54 PM
I think this talk about a "resurgence" from St Johns is all relative, it is more a case of Rossa having declined so badly since they won the championship in 2004. I mean St Johns are not going to count in this years championship IMO, it will be between Cushendall, Dunloy and Loughguile. They may have good underage teams but that is no guarantee of senior success, just ask the Shamrocks. We beat the Johnnies fairly handy in the league this year and unless things have changed drastically they may struggle against Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
is Guliem not a Rossa man? these are the same people  (their management) who pleaded with us to call a game off against them at senior level because Sean's younger brother Paddy died, so they could mourn his death.

your man Hamill is mental. he hit our manager and told him what would he know about hurling, this was after we beat them in their own back yard  ;D then the second time he got in his car before the final whistle and left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on July 31, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 31, 2007, 03:19:37 PM
Their other manager, Liam Mc Auley is the world's biggest ****. A foul mouthed, abusive eejit.

this has to be the first statement on this board i think everybody will agree with  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on July 31, 2007, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: Give-it-Timber on July 31, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 31, 2007, 03:19:37 PM
Their other manager, Liam Mc Auley is the world's biggest ****. A foul mouthed, abusive eejit.

this has to be the first statement on this board i think everybody will agree with  :D  :D  :D

Is he still with them? Hamill has been there too long, there is only so many different ways of saying the same thing? I remember a few of the Rossa lads telling me Mc Auley was a bit of a clown and was only really there because he was Jim Connollys uncle. I think he managed them when they won the Championship in 2004 but a lot of the coaching/drills was done by the more senior players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 01, 2007, 01:17:42 PM
Sorry Balboa if you think i shouldnt put forward my opinion........sometimes im right, sometimes wrong but i will still give it.....

Carey have been blighted by injuries all year. They have lost 3 of their best players through long term injuries - James McAuley, Cathal McAuley and Michael Hegarty plus a few other players with niggling injuries. Now a small club like carey cant replace players of that quality (intermediate) and hence they have stuggled as of late. However aul Mickey Dallat will get the best out of them come championship. There best forward young Butler is heading off to Austrailia shortly so i would say they have very little chance of winning intermediate......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 01, 2007, 01:17:42 PM
Sorry Balboa if you think i shouldnt put forward my opinion........sometimes im right, sometimes wrong but i will still give it.....


So bragging about winning the U-21 Championship, and winning it more "than youse boys" or words to that effect is giving your "opinion"? Its the kind of juvenile shite that is found on the North Antrim/Hoganstand websites and is probably why people are on GAA Board, because you can get sensible debate here (most of the time).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 01, 2007, 01:31:14 PM
I aint bragging bout our club Balboa....why wud i ....we have been brutal as past 20 years BUT hopefully after years of mismanagement at all levels we are starting to turn a corner. I Apologise for coming across as "childish" but a bit of banter never killed anyone :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 02, 2007, 09:14:41 AM
Any views on the match last night?

seems we were looking to the dublin game to early.

Maybe too many ego's floating around that changing room at the moment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 02, 2007, 09:25:57 AM
I never believed the hype about some of those players,maybe its the kick in the arse some of them need and they will realise they havent "made it" yet. Sambo & Woody have not been doing them any favours either, conctantly talking them up. Just shows a good minor team is just that, a good minor team,does not translate to senior hurling or now U-21 hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 02, 2007, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: Balboa on August 02, 2007, 09:25:57 AM
I never believed the hype about some of those players,maybe its the kick in the arse some of them need and they will realise they havent "made it" yet. Sambo & Woody have not been doing them any favours either, conctantly talking them up. Just shows a good minor team is just that, a good minor team,does not translate to senior hurling or now U-21 hurling.

which players in particular are you talking about Balboa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 02, 2007, 11:26:38 AM
Take any of the players Give it Timber.......Name one who has really made it?? McManus, McGill, Graffin, McFall, McAuley, Shiels??? How can you classify them as having made it? They are yet to turn in really consistent performances at senior level. BUT maybe they feel they have arrived, cos they are ANTRIM SENIORS.......

Really disappointed about this result. This is the one where Sambo & Woody should have been putting alot of emphasis on......They will prob blame lack of trainining, clubs etc BUT i no for a fact Derry have had 2 sessions for the whole championship....lhardly serious preparation.....fact is our "Big stars" were outplayed/muscles by division 3 hurlers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 02, 2007, 11:32:05 AM
i agree North Antrim, Just wanted to see who exactly Balboa was talking about.

i believe no player has MADE IT at U21 level, no matter how good he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2007, 11:34:23 AM
Antrim: C O'Donnell, A Graffin, C McKinley,

M Devlin, N McAuley, N McManus (0-2), B McFall, S McCrory, C Duffin (0-1), S McNaughton (0-2), C McFall (0-2), E McCloskey (0-1), S McDonnell (0-1), P Doherty (1-2), P Shiels (0-6). Subs: C Donnelly (0-1) for S McCrory; McKeague for C Duffin.

There's the team. The only positive thing I could say is that most of that team are u21 again next year.

I would suspect that this team are still very light for u21 level and maybe derry produced some physical hurling in order to expose this.

Still an awful awful result. I was really hoping these boys could have given the dubs a good rattle.

If this is the level we are at with our "great hopes" then you would have to ask where is the real hope for us.

Can only get better...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 02, 2007, 11:38:45 AM
Derry didnt have any physical strength over us - i read in another thread where Paddy Henry was very good for Derry - hes still a minor....2 Dodds brothers and SL McGoldrick were all playing too and as far as i know they are underage for next 2 years...hardly  use strength as a factor......and Sambo is hoping McManus, and co can out hurl Galway, Tipp etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnjoe on August 02, 2007, 01:06:10 PM
Would have a knowledge of some of the Derry team that played last night, and suffice to say, they have not been locked away for months preparing for last nights game.

At the end of the day, talking to a few from the Derry camp this morning, it seems to me that Derry were winning a lot more 50/50 ball than Antrim.

No point in having a lot of gifted players, if the other team wants it more. Definitely one very very bad night for Antrim hurling, especially as this year group was supposed to be the dogs bollox.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 02, 2007, 01:55:12 PM
Heard dunloy v Loughguile U-21 semi final is off 2nite! Our game is still on v Rossa at Casement 7.30pm. Anyone hear why their game is off??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 02, 2007, 02:11:41 PM
Its not off apparently just changed to saturday night by agreement of the two clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 02, 2007, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: Give-it-Timber on August 02, 2007, 11:32:05 AM
i believe no player has MADE IT at U21 level, no matter how good he is.

I think most people would agree with this comment, but S&W have talked up alot of young hurlers and put undue pressure on them to deliver consistently at senior level long before their time. This can have a tendancy to put talked up hurlers back as they start believing the hype before the have all the tools in the box (so to speak). These boys need to hurl one game at a time without the weight of expectation on them. They'll come in their own time.

Judging by the score it must have been an entertaining game. Fair play to Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 02, 2007, 04:24:37 PM
how's your training going Skull for Championship?

we had ten last night for senior hurling 3 seniors and the rest reserve, football training the night before, 25 most senior hard drills and boys said it was tough training.

pissing against the wind in our club at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 02, 2007, 04:31:24 PM
Trying to lure us in and catch us on the hop milltown?  ;)

Training going well enough, but we probably have the same number of dual players as yourselves so alot of tired legs i'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 02, 2007, 04:52:54 PM
trust me no lure, at this rate i'll be lining out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 02, 2007, 05:23:32 PM
last time dunloy and the gallsmen meet in milltown it finished a draw if i'm right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 08:13:25 AM
yes was an end of season draw (thought i scored the winner that day, untill you scored on the final whistle) was played at good pace but way of Championship pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 03, 2007, 09:14:17 AM
drawing that match actually cost us the league in the end, let the shamrocks claim another league title.  it was a week after we had been dumped out of the championship, decent, high scoring game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 09:30:05 AM
why didn't you say before the game we could have come to an agreement ;)

though league titles count for nothing, which comes to something i've been thinking about for years. the league should have more importance, either seeding in championship the following year or league winners from all the counties play a format like the Club hurling/football championships. ulster then provincal. the way it stands now there seems to be no importance put into it. we concentrate on the teams who we think we have a chance of beating to ensure Division one status

take Cushendall last year, they played about 7 league games i think and seem to be going down that road now. if thier was some sort of reward for beating all the teams in the league like taking to the national stage, possible final in Semple.
in Derry they play the league first and the standings decide who plays who

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 03, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
I know for a fact that Dunloy in the early nineties went unbeaten in the league for a few years and actually won the league a couple of years in a row and none of the Dunloy players that I have spoken to have ever recieved a medal or actually wanted one. However when loughiel won it recently there was a big hunt on for the league trophy so they had something to present at their dinner dance.

Leagues are for playing in championships are for winning.

Big game on sunday the johnnies v Rossa, any one care to voice an opinion?

Think the johnnies are too many for them but wouldnt write off rossa just yet this is a big game in terms of bragging rights. Could be the changing of the guard for hurling superiority in Belfast. I would say it has probably been maybe early nineites or even late eighties since the naomh eoin could call themselves top dog in belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 03, 2007, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 03, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
Leagues are for playing in championships are for winning.Big game on sunday the johnnies v Rossa, any one care to voice an opinion?

Think the johnnies are too many for them but wouldnt write off rossa just yet this is a big game in terms of bragging rights. Could be the changing of the guard for hurling superiority in Belfast. I would say it has probably been maybe early nineites or even late eighties since the naomh eoin could call themselves top dog in belfast.

Not sure what people are basing their opinion of the Johnnies on, i wouldnt be surprised if Rossa beat them. Top Dog in Belfast? It does not amount to an awful lot !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 03, 2007, 02:05:46 PM
Not sure what people are basing their opinion of the Johnnies on, i wouldnt be surprised if Rossa beat them. Top Dog in Belfast? It does not amount to an awful lot !

Balboa

Never said it did although saying the fact that its the big game in belfast thought it was of at least some small significance.

I am basing my opinion on their slight improvement this year, nothing to shout about and wont count come september but an improvement is an improvement. Meanwhile Rossa have hit reverse since their championship the whole club seems to be in dissaray.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 03:54:21 PM
top dog belfast? we beat the Rossa twice this year and beat the Johnnies in the championship (although they beat us in the league last year) the last time we met.

city teams at the minute are very even, Balboa youse beat us for the first time in years at Milltown, in a game we threw away. league standings show we are the top team in belfast. no bragging is right.

the johnies and rossa are in a good draw. with only Cushendall definitley going through the others are trying to get second spot.

our group two teams Dunloy and Loughgiel the rest are playing for pride.

i'll be at the rossa game on Sunday, it will be a battle, the Johnnies think it's in the bag, but i think it will be very close

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 03, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
your at your work milltown, laying these subtle traps for Dunloy/Loughgiel men.  first your not training, training is terrible, now its a dead cert Dunloy & Loughgiel are going through to the semi's and youse are only playing for pride.

come on tell the truth, you fancy yourselves to catch one of us on the hop, prob Dunloy saying you have us in milltown.  Hope for the best we underestimate you and you'll sneak into one fo those qualifying spots.  well i'm not falling for it, we will maybe go in as favourites to qualify but favouritism meant very little last Sun with Tipp/Wexford and even less with our own County u21's on Wednesday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 04:34:10 PM
i'm being honest. no traps, 2 seniors trained the other day the rest were reserves. i'll be lining out. two mc gourtys in the states along with McDaniel, all starters!!! plus injuries and whaterver else

footballers believe now that Cargin are out they will be on a roll. if were were in the other draw we would be hoping to get through but........ we prefer to play loughgiel at their pitch anyway, a better game. they have been four points better than us for the last few years we would like to not give them a 2 goal start this time. the gap between our last match and our game against yourselves is too long and we cant get a challenge game.

looking forward to playing yourselves and loughgiel as its a proper tough game of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 03, 2007, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 03:54:21 PM
Balboa youse beat us for the first time in years at Milltown, in a game we threw away.

Not sure about that version Milltown, i dont think youse were ever in the lead and certainly not in the 2nd half, so im not sure how that is a game that youse "threw away"......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 04, 2007, 11:08:56 AM
Well we finally made it into the u-21 final beating Rossa by 7 points......poor game with neal mcauley & Hippy the 2 dominant players on the pitch. Once again mis management nearly beat us with aul hippy showing his ignorance once agin by not starting ryan Donnelly! Sum of the players who started wudnt get on a gud u-16 team. Finally he brought him on and the big lad turned the game scoring a goal and setting up a few points.  We play winners of dunloy or loughguile.

We have a bye this week in senior championship - thank god.

will prob take in Rossa v johnnies tomorrow and then shamrocks v glenariffe on wed.

Its do or die for glenariffe.....dont think they stand a chance imo - but you never know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 04, 2007, 08:41:27 PM
Portaferry beat Ballycastle by 4 pts in Div 1 tonight. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2007, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 04, 2007, 11:08:56 AM
Well we finally made it into the u-21 final beating Rossa by 7 points......poor game with neal mcauley & Hippy the 2 dominant players on the pitch. Once again mis management nearly beat us with aul hippy showing his ignorance once agin by not starting ryan Donnelly! Sum of the players who started wudnt get on a gud u-16 team. Finally he brought him on and the big lad turned the game scoring a goal and setting up a few points.  We play winners of dunloy or loughguile.

Well its a Ballycastle Dunloy final. We got out of jail beating loughgiel 3-11 to 0-16. 2 late goals (both poor goalkeeping IMO) to go 4 points up finished the game have to be honest and say that we weren't the better team tonight. To many players lost possesion one hand lifting when we really needed to win the ball should have cost us the game but thats football eh we got away with it? Strong performances from our backline and kevin mcquillan in midfield drove us on but our forwards need up their game in the final if we are to have any chance. Good crowd and good atmosphere at the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 05, 2007, 11:11:05 AM
Any idea when and where the final is at skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 05, 2007, 01:03:35 PM
24th August SCB....don't know where though......I would say loughgiel would be as good a place as any
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 05, 2007, 02:52:25 PM
having seen both teams play, would have to fancy dunloy as they will have to much pace for the b'castle boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 06, 2007, 08:44:39 AM
Quote from: Balboa on August 03, 2007, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 03, 2007, 03:54:21 PM
Balboa youse beat us for the first time in years at Milltown, in a game we threw away.

Not sure about that version Milltown, i dont think youse were ever in the lead and certainly not in the 2nd half, so im not sure how that is a game that youse "threw away"......

we were three up going into the break, after that you scored the next four points and got a goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 06, 2007, 08:56:39 AM
Any reports on the IHC matches yesterday.  I see clonney gaels had another good result with an away draw at Glenarm- not an easy place to go.  Did i hear there was a few cards being dished out here?  Carey easy winners over Glenravel.

Any other results? Did St Pauls or St teresas play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 06, 2007, 09:21:37 AM
Shane O Neills  0-12 1-9 Gaeil Chluana 

Glenarm threw this one away with a terrible second half after coming out to start the second period 7 points in front.

And yes 2 red cards for Glenarm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 06, 2007, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on August 06, 2007, 09:21:37 AM
Shane O Neills  0-12 1-9 Gaeil Chluana 

And yes 2 red cards for Glenarm.

Its good to see things have not changed in Feystown !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 06, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
girt, who were the offenders for the red cards?  straight reds or double yellows?  sounds like there was a strong breeze for such a turnaround but then again it was on feystown...  clooney gaels are a well drilled outfit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 06, 2007, 09:47:02 AM
Any reports on Rossa v Johnnies? I see St Johns won easily enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 06, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
St Teresa's and Sarsfield's match was off - waterlogged pitch.

St Paul's had a bye this week.

Big hammering for Glenravel, are Carey that good?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 06, 2007, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: podge on August 06, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
girt, who were the offenders for the red cards?  straight reds or double yellows?  sounds like there was a strong breeze for such a turnaround but then again it was on feystown...  clooney gaels are a well drilled outfit.

1 was 2 yellows & other was straight red (after the final whistle).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 06, 2007, 10:46:44 AM
Still think the IHC will be a tight affair and yesterdays results havn;t changed my mind much.  Glenarm will be disappointed as will Tir na Og.  Carey will be hard to stop if they back into gear again.  both sections still tough to call.

Who was the ref in the Glenarm match Girt?  he must have been getting a bit of the famous feystown hospitality..  who got the red anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 06, 2007, 10:59:35 AM
C Matthews & C McNeill. Cunning from Dunloy was referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 06, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
Took in the u-21 semi final on saturday night. Dunloy stole it at the end. Loughgiel main man dim Laverty was suspended and dunloy dominated first half but only went in 3 points ahead. At that stage i couldnt see anyway back for the bodies as dunloy had the breeze but fair play to them. they totally dominated the second half and went 2 up into injury time bore their keeper let in 2 howlers!! :D Anyway we play dunloy in 3 weeks time in the final. Will we beat them?? Hopefully. Shorty was really poor the other night and with him up against Neal McAuley i would fancy us to dominate that battle. Our defencer is sound enough. Its whether our forward line can get the scores. Woodys son had a great game at full back so Stephen McGarry will need to be on his game.


johnnies had a big win yesterday.......puts serious pressure on us to come out of the group. I was hoping Rossa wud win but we have to go to corrigan park which will be daunting......

Carey had a great win considering there injury crisis.......the aul wiley mickey dallat can work miracles!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 06, 2007, 11:21:32 AM
north antrim, i was umpiring your game against Rossa at Casement, fully expected a big win for Ballycastle, everyone of your lads were 6ft plus but untill the last 5 minutes Rossa were still in the game. rossa won a lot of breaking ball and dirty ball and had pace which made life difficult for your back line. Rossa seemed to have men injured (though they played on) during the game. but you finally put them away with 6 unanswered points.

haven't seen Dunloy but have seen enough of loughgiel over the years at under 21 so Dunloy would be firm favourites  i'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 06, 2007, 11:29:40 AM
Fair point Miltown - however i just feel that loughguile wudnt be as strong this year at this level and although dunloy will prob start favourites Id fancy our boys. If its played in casement we cud struggle cos of pace, but i wud think they will play it in loughgiel which will suit uor big players - who are good hurlers but as you pointed out lack pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 06, 2007, 11:40:26 AM
Cunning is a good ref so he must have been taking some lip to red card a man after the whistle...



saw the b'castle u21 game v rossa.  there would need to be some serious imporvement if they are to win it..  in fariness, i thought s mc garry had a good game at full forward and at 11 when he moved out.  he was out in front to most balls.

was not a bit strange that ryan donnelly didn;t start but maybe he was injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 06, 2007, 03:06:43 PM
who is managing the towns under 21's this year?? If that match was on in casement i'd fly over to see it !!

good to hear steven mc garrys name being mentioned again the town need a tallysman.

whens the next round of senior championship?? close to the under 21 final?

jaysus we could win this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 07, 2007, 11:10:30 AM
god guys this place has got very quiet, dont tell me you guys are doing something really stupid like working  ???

so what SHC matches are on tommorrow night, any predictions?

ps any reports on the St Johns - Rossa game last Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 07, 2007, 01:24:09 PM
Not too much predicting to do. comfortable wins for Dunloy, Loughgiel & Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 07, 2007, 01:57:02 PM
forgive me i dont have the irish news, but what are the fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 07, 2007, 02:44:23 PM
Dunloy v L Dhearg
Loughgiel v Glenariffe
Gort na Mona v Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2007, 02:51:25 PM
I'm all for the group stages of the hurling championship at the minute but I think with having five teams in each group and only the top two going through to the semi finals is daft, if the team that finishes top of the group goes straight into the semi finals and then awaits the winners of 2nd and 3rd of each group who play off for a semi final spot.

So if Cushendall win their group and Loughgiel theirs they are into the semi final.

So if the johnnies finish 2nd and Ballycastle finish 3rd they then play off against 2nd and 3rd of the other group to gain a place in the semi finals. This would make all the games more competitive till the end, not the way it's been. Yes the best teams usually win through but sometimes a team can click on the day and cause an upset.

As it is Glenariff play on Wednesday night and if they are beaten they are out, two meaningless games to play with no competition and unfair on teams hopping for another team to take points of a team that will put them into that top three and a chance to get into a semi final 

I don't know if that makes sense, and I've just picked to teams random there Gorts and Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2007, 03:01:42 PM
Sounds like an excellent idea Milltown. At present because it's open draw teams can slack off when they're through rather than play for first and teams at other end can have nothing to play for. Your suggestion knocks both of those on the head.

The Glenariff scenario really highlights what can go bad with these league stages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2007, 03:23:46 PM
for this idea to work your club officers need to put it before the county board at the monday meetings. otherwise next year will be the same.

the Johnnies have had that group for two years now, while we have been paired with Loughgiel (every year) and Dunloy for the past two years trying to catch one of those teams on the hop does not happen too often and then not loose against one of the teams at your own level is hard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 07, 2007, 03:45:30 PM
Aye its worked out crap for us this year, Dunloy & Loughguile in first two games. If Shamrocks beat us tomorrow night our season is to all intents and purposes over. We will probably stop training and if we dont we will probably only go 1 night a week with the numbers dropping drastically, we have been getting 25 nearly every night thus far. We also only have two league matches in the depth of winter, October & November i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2007, 03:51:42 PM
yes but if your league games dont involve teams in the championship then you can arrange them earlier, providing you inform the CCC.

will you just go out and give it a lash against Loughiel then? keep it tight for the first 30 slow it down no momentum and try and finish strong dont give up early as they will rake up a score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 07, 2007, 04:42:47 PM
Our u-21 final is fixed for Friday 24th in Casement with floodlights in operation!! How ridiculous is this...our club have put in an appeal to CCC to look at this and move it to Loughguile. Why or why would they do something like this beggars belief.

By 2morrow nights games - Lamh dearg and Glenariffe could be out of the championship with still 2 games to play.......

Seen Winker in local paper scoring a hatrick for Ballycastle 1sts!! Hardly the sign of a man committed to the shams this year....... 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 07, 2007, 05:40:28 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 07, 2007, 03:51:42 PM
yes but if your league games dont involve teams in the championship then you can arrange them earlier, providing you inform the CCC.

will you just go out and give it a lash against Loughiel then? keep it tight for the first 30 slow it down no momentum and try and finish strong dont give up early as they will rake up a score

Aye i dont think Loughguile are anything special, they can run up a big score if you let them though. We will have to have everyone playing to full potential, i wonder is Winker playing? Shows you how much they need him when he headbutted one of their selectors and they still take him back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2007, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 06, 2007, 11:29:40 AM
If its played in casement we cud struggle cos of pace, but i wud think they will play it in loughgiel which will suit uor big players - who are good hurlers but as you pointed out lack pace

Quote from: North Antrim on August 07, 2007, 04:42:47 PM
Our u-21 final is fixed for Friday 24th in Casement with floodlights in operation!! How ridiculous is this...our club have put in an appeal to CCC to look at this and move it to Loughguile. Why or why would they do something like this beggars belief. 

I agree with you NA, but not so sure about your motives  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2007, 06:29:01 PM
Regarding the championship format, is there not always going to be a scenario, whatever the format where one of the weaker sides feel hard done by? I can sympathise to a degree with the likes of glenariff this year the way the draw has worked out but is that not just the way it is....tough? An extra game wouldn't be favoured by the dual clubs like ourselves I don't think who have trouble enough with matches/training at this time of year.
Milltowns idea from a purely hurling perspective looks like a fairly decent one as it gives the weaker sides something to go for which I think would be no bad thing, but if you do cause an upset in the group stages it'll give the "stronger" sides a second chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 07, 2007, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 07, 2007, 04:42:47 PM
Our u-21 final is fixed for Friday 24th in Casement with floodlights in operation!! How ridiculous is this...our club have put in an appeal to CCC to look at this and move it to Loughguile. Why or why would they do something like this beggars belief.

By 2morrow nights games - Lamh dearg and Glenariffe could be out of the championship with still 2 games to play.......

Seen Winker in local paper scoring a hatrick for Ballycastle 1sts!! Hardly the sign of a man committed to the shams this year....... 

A bit of a joke alright - Loughgeil would be the perfect option.

Winker gets as much air time as Kevin McGourty does on the football page. He undoubtedly brings most of it on himself by doing foolish things (the list is too many) but he doesn't court the media like the aforementioned muppet. Give the guy a break, so what if he's lining out playing a bit of soccer. I'm not his biggest fan but he's not doing anything wrong in this instance.
Ballycastle should have learned a few things from the soccer and avoided back passes against the Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2007, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 07, 2007, 08:59:47 PM
Ballycastle should have learned a few things from the soccer and avoided back passes against the Dall.

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 07, 2007, 10:22:37 PM
have to agree with skull, if you add another game the same problems will just arise, also the big teams will know they can maybe afford two defeats and get through.

ps  :D  :D  :D  :D  @ Glensman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 08:43:57 AM
agreed on the stronger teams having a better chance but lamhs and Glenariff will have two meaningless games to play after tonight. against teams that may need to improve their scoring difference to maybe top group, this would be unfair on other teams who played said teams at the start when the game was close/competitive. one more game wont kill it and theres more to play for to become top of the group to avoid the extra game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2007, 09:37:23 AM
First of all :D at glensman!

second good news to here the under-21 game is going to be played at casement but why under floodlight?? seems very odd, they going to have it at midnight?

The why i see it is that both teams now have an venue to rise to as well as an occasion. the idea of fitness being a problem of the ballycastle lads is a silly reason not to have it at HQ for the following reasons:


time to stop making excuses north antrim, the lads can win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 08, 2007, 10:24:20 AM
better if match was in Loughgiel because

1. 2 north antrim teams contesting the final - so geographically (sp) a north antrim venue would be wiser for both sets of supporters

2. casement park will be/look empty with little/no atmosphere. Wouldnt be the case if in Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
if that were the case the all ireland final would never go to croker. For how often it happens the ballycastle supporters can travel up to belfast and have a day out in casement.

as for the atomsphere, its the crowds that make the atomosphere not the place, plus i'd prefer to watch it at casement as there no loughgiel folk slabbering on...

THINK BOUT YOUR TRIPS TO THE CITY AND BRINGING BACK THE  CUP, THE CRAIC ON THE BUS AND SINGING DODGE WOLFETONE SONGS..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 08, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: youngfella on August 08, 2007, 10:59:46 AM
if that were the case the all ireland final would never go to croker. For how often it happens the ballycastle supporters can travel up to belfast and have a day out in casement.

as for the atomsphere, its the crowds that make the atomosphere not the place, plus i'd prefer to watch it at casement as there no loughgiel folk slabbering on...

THINK BOUT YOUR TRIPS TO THE CITY AND BRINGING BACK THE  CUP, THE CRAIC ON THE BUS AND SINGING DODGE WOLFETONE SONGS..


Looks like it's a night out since the floodlights are going to be on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2007, 12:00:37 PM
giant mirror balls, smoke machines and buckfast!  lights in the middle of summer!! ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 12:35:22 PM
Lads i aint making excuses.......I have not questioned our fitness - just made the point that the tight pitch in Loughgiel would suit our players more than the wide open spaces of casement. Our players dont lack fitness - just PACE!!! Anyway if the game is in casement - bring it on. Like a previous member (Girt) i just thought Loughguile would have brought more neutrals to it, created  a great atmoshere etc etc!! Gig Ryan didnt start the last night - so there is no guarentee he will start the final.....Big Hippy is liable to do anything........

Looking forward to seeing Loughguile in action 2nite - will be interesting to see if they have made any progress from last year....my sources tell me they are very much a happy camp att present - on the winker headbutting incident a good mate of mine said that was a bullshit story - that yes they did have words but didnt come to blows.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2007, 12:51:58 PM
Go on then... regale us all with the headbutting story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2007, 01:42:21 PM
I dont mean to have a go, you dont train the lads (hopefully). But how after training for so look can the lad lack pace ???
from just reading this board it seems that ballycastle do endurance training, short stick and not much else.

who ever is training the lads should pound that they've got this far, but build pace training, psychological training and a bigger vary of stick work drills into there training.

there can be no excuse for training from winter time and having no pace.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 08, 2007, 01:50:32 PM
Pace or lack of is a natural thing. Yes it can be slightly improved through various methods but in general ye either have it or you dont.  all to do with the number of slow/fast twitch fibres in your body!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 01:53:00 PM
Maybe Ballycastle should just enter an indoor league/championship thus their lack of pace wouldnt matter, or beating that.....get out in front of the man !!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
Girt you have answered it for me. Young Fella - the myth that the more you train the faster youget is crap - the more you train the fitter you get not faster.....Speed is an ability which is innate - therefore the players who are fast at U-12 U-14 will be the players who will still have pace come senior level - fact.....yes you can try to sharpen them up etc etc but you wont make them speed merchants.

Balboa - by this time tomorrow you prob will be entering indoor league 2 - after the pasting you get tonight ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 02:15:19 PM
a bit harsh North Antrim, you'll not be too far behind them, when do you play the Johnnies and Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 02:15:19 PM
a bit harsh North Antrim, you'll not be too far behind them, when do you play the Johnnies and Rossa

Exactly Milltown, its the kind of answer you expect from North Antrim though.We may get beaten tonight but we will go out and give a good effort, could you say that about the Town against Cushendall last time out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 02:49:55 PM
U bite very easily Balboa - read my previous posts - we were dire against the Dall. I have no doubt you will give it ur all 2nite but you will stil get pasted!! - We play Gort Na Mona this time 2 weeks at home - then the big one on 31st Aug AWAY to Jonnies - tough one but hopefully by that time we will have U-21 in bag  ;) and a bit of confidence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 08:42:13 PM
half time at the gorts game 1-17 0-7 till Cushendall!!!!!!!!!!!!

i've a mate at game and he phoned score. Cushendall in slow mode apparently.

might be the biggest score of the year  :-[

doing gorts no good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on August 08, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
what was the final score Milltown row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 10:26:09 PM
Loughguile 2-21 Glenariffe 1-5, f**k we were abysmal, its as if we were never on the pitch together.No excuses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 08, 2007, 10:37:00 PM
Cushendall 2-32 to Gort na Mona 1-8. at finish. At the start would you believe was a very competitive match at 5 points each with Gorts hitting some fine scores until we got a goal then it was over. Second Half was shotting practice. To be fair to the Gorts their was no dirt in them & not a dirty tackle all match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2007, 11:08:48 PM
Dunloy 5-17 Lamh Dearg 0-6

Another one sided game like the others I see. Seems like none of the weaker sides are going to put it up to any of the stronger sides which is a shame. Club hurling needs 5-6 strong sides rather than the 3 and a 1/2 we have at the minute. I hope youse keep trying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 11:12:23 PM
I can see us taking a few steps backwards after this, we had been training well and training was tough but we left it on the training pitch/changing rooms. Loughguile were sharp but we only put up token resistance, still not convinced about them though if you keep Winker out of it. He got sent off tonight but it was 2 yellows.
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 08, 2007, 11:19:27 PM
Balboa, I thought Glenariffe would have put it up abit more to Loughgiel. it seems this year has been abit of a disaster for yous??

With the three scores tonight, surely it's time to go back to an open draw..& seed the 3 big teams and A.N.Other so that they cant play to at least the semi finals. The 2 groups are a total waste of time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2007, 11:27:05 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on August 08, 2007, 11:19:27 PM
With the three scores tonight, surely it's time to go back to an open draw..& seed the 3 big teams and A.N.Other so that they cant play to at least the semi finals. The 2 groups are a total waste of time

For a hurling only club, you'd think you'd be glad of the matches ROe  :-\ . If Clare, Galway etc had that attitude how do you think we in Antrim would feel? Narrow minded opinion to say the least. If you want it to get better then you have to be part of the solution (i.e stick with it and hope that the competition level improves year on year)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 11:32:02 PM
Was at Loughguile game 2nite

Balboa - u cant critisise us now - u lads were equally worse or prob even worse than the show we put up 2 weeks ago....Johhny Tosh was an embarassment imo....

As for Loughguile - they played great hurling in 1st half - very sharp with a real method to their play which they havnt had before. Winker sored an unbelievable goal - beat prob 5 men and ran 7o yards b4 unleashing one into top corner...... there half backs were excellent but like us - glenariife were shambolic...

Championship only begins in mid sept unfortunately :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 11:33:55 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on August 08, 2007, 11:19:27 PM
Balboa, I thought Glenariffe would have put it up abit more to Loughgiel. it seems this year has been abit of a disaster for yous??

With the three scores tonight, surely it's time to go back to an open draw..& seed the 3 big teams and A.N.Other so that they cant play to at least the semi finals. The 2 groups are a total waste of time

Aye it has, we never competed. Tosh hasnt been at it all year and we need him going full pelt but there are plenty of other fellas that havent stood up to be counted, Tosh always gets brutal criticism from some of our "fans" because so much is expected of him, youse probably have the same sort of supporters that only come out for championship and couldnt hurl stones at the brits themselves. I hope Dunloy or the Dall win it this year after listening to some of the shite from the Loughguile players, they are a good enough team without having to get involved in cheap shit when they are stuffing a team, call it sour grapes if you want but they dont know how their season will end up and it could end up like the previous 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 11:35:17 PM
Why wot were they at and who???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 08, 2007, 11:38:50 PM
I understand what you are talking about in regards to games but most of these games aren't competive. Take the Dunloy v Loughgiel in the group, it's both teams last match & they'll have both qualified so it shouldnt really matter. I think the goup stages suit the big teams so that they have another chance incase they slip up(like us against Lamh Derg last year), where as in straight knock out if one of the the big 3 get beat they are out. The real Hurling doesnt start to the semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 11:41:40 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 11:35:17 PM
Why wot were they at and who???

What does it matter who it was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
What were they at then???

P.S. Are you entering indoor league with us now ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 08, 2007, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 08, 2007, 11:43:30 PM
What were they at then???

P.S. Are you entering indoor league with us now ;D

The nights are drawing in so we might, nah thats us finished for the year i think.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 08:29:48 AM
this is what i'm talking aboutthe scores that were put up tonight will go a long way to deciding top spot and in our group avoiding Cushendall untill the final.

i'm not saying that we would beat one of the top teams but if we did we would lose out because of the scoring difference, finish level on points but finish third because of the scoring difference.

we should give it another go next year but with the top teams into the semis right away and the other two teams into a play off for the other semi final spots giving it a knock out effect. this would leave one team from the group definitley out but the rest with a chance and something to play for till the last group match. cant see Lamhs or Glenariffe and Gorts training now untill next year. they will certainly not do anybody else any favours with a shock result.

Competition needs tweaking/fixed yes all the weaker teams need to get to that standard but the results over the last two years should show it's not working. straight knockout? no seeding games all played at neutral grounds anything could happen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on August 09, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
balboa please elabourate on the shite coming from the loughgiel players....incase you hadnt noticed its championship time and of-course there's going to be confrontation....thats what makes championship 'championship'!!! I was on the field last night and I heard nothing that you wouldn't hear from any team that wanted to win!!! you called it....sour grapes!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 09, 2007, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: waawaa on August 09, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
balboa please elabourate on the shite coming from the loughgiel players....incase you hadnt noticed its championship time and of-course there's going to be confrontation....thats what makes championship 'championship'!!! I was on the field last night and I heard nothing that you wouldn't hear from any team that wanted to win!!! you called it....sour grapes!!

I was playing (well i was there anyway  ;) ) and that was "championship" in name only last night, maybe you and me are different but when a team is getting tanked by 20 pts why would you start with that s*ite, running down the other team? Loughguile could end up with another kick in the balls this year so they would be better leaving the slabbering until they win something............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2007, 09:54:11 AM
Milltown you talk about the scoring averages etc. to avoid cushendall until the final but is it not the case that the semis are open draw? This could then mean 1st and 2nd in the one group could play each other? Or is it open in that you can draw any of the top two in the other group(but not the one in your own)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 10:00:15 AM
not sure about draw after groups, would seem only fair though.

last year the johnnies (came second) got Loughgiel (finished first) and the same for the other group. so i was assuming that is the case for this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 09, 2007, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 10:00:15 AM
not sure about draw after groups, would seem only fair though.

last year the johnnies (came second) got Loughgiel (finished first) and the same for the other group. so i was assuming that is the case for this year

would seem to be only fair Milltown, but as far as i am aware last year it was an open draw.

not sure though if it was an open draw between all four teams or between each group, but the two teams who came first could have played each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on August 09, 2007, 10:12:19 AM
balboa if anything the slabbering was coming from the glenariffe players....two sent off....one who wasnt even on the field....what was that for? and i would like to know who it was that was doing the slabbering from loughgiel??your dead right....loughgiel could get another kick in the balls this year...but we'll keep pluggin away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 10:35:09 AM
balboa and waawaa knock it on the head, sour grapes by balboa and you dont need to rub it in waawaa.

match report please, what were the the positions of loughgiel and what tactics did they play

same for you Skull home work needed for our games 8) dick scoring 2-6 not bad for an aul hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
Last year the draw was made after Cushendall - Ballycastle.

It coincidentally worked out to be 1st v 2nd in the other group. Like I and give-it-timber said though can't be sure if it's completely open - ie can teams from the same group play each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 10:53:17 AM
would be really unfair lets say loughgiel and dunloy who play last in our group manage to get through (no sniggering please) so the next game they will play will be a championship semi final ??? not right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 09, 2007, 11:32:01 AM
Waawaaa - another bodie in town - were you playing last night or are you one of the crowd who just shout vulgar abuse!! WaaWaa - do you feel you have improved from previous years??

Its an open draw lads as far as i know - crazy stuff indeed.......Miltown - in your honest opinion - who do you feel youu have a chance of beating - Loughgiel or dunloy?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 12:00:47 PM
in all honesty North antrim we've no chance of beating them, but we will be giving it a lash and i might eat my words but we will  not drop our heads till the final whistle. it's the final ten minutes where teams run out with a big score.

our lads dont fear teams or reputations, if we had the committment of our footballers we would really have a chance, of taking one of the big teams. in the last 3 championship meetings with loughgiel it's been a four point win for them. Dunloy well they have beaten us handy enough in championship but no cricket score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
see they are spouting off again on the hogan stand:


Loughgiel Shamrocks
Simply superb performance by the Shamrocks last night, on that evidence, nooone will be able to stop us this year, we have had 4 years of disappointment, but i think we finally showed last night taht we are up for the battle, and big ears will be winging its way to the pound in time for Christmas.

Id go as far as to say that another repeat of 83 is on the cards - this team has the ability to go far.

Up the Shams!
Loughgiel , Ireland , 09/08/2007 at 13:46

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 09, 2007, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
see they are spouting off again on the hogan stand:


Loughgiel Shamrocks
Simply superb performance by the Shamrocks last night, on that evidence, nooone will be able to stop us this year, we have had 4 years of disappointment, but i think we finally showed last night taht we are up for the battle, and big ears will be winging its way to the pound in time for Christmas.

Id go as far as to say that another repeat of 83 is on the cards - this team has the ability to go far.

Up the Shams!
Loughgiel , Ireland , 09/08/2007 at 13:46


Par for the course for Hogan Stand, will they ever learn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: waawaa on August 09, 2007, 04:20:30 PM
milltown....do you honestly think this was posted by a genuine loughgiel person?? maybe you should join the hoganstand chat if you think so....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2007, 05:06:57 PM
just highlighting the pressure that you fans/friends put you under.

are you saying someone from dunloy is putting it on?

kids from all clubs are doing it.....we beat gorts in the football (minor) and you would have thought we won it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 11, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?

You could argue Skull that it is tight because there is no outstanding team, will you take them up on the 7/2 about Dunloy??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 11, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?

You could argue Skull that it is tight because there is no outstanding team, will you take them up on the 7/2 about Dunloy??

Maybe, but when you consider that antrim teams almost always put up a good show in the all ireland series, our level at the top of div 1 club mustn't be that far away from clubs in the top counties? Strengthening the middle order is really the area which needs to develop in Antrim more than the top sides don't you think?
Never was a betting man Rocky even when we were sure things, so don't think i'll start now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 11, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 11, 2007, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?

You could argue Skull that it is tight because there is no outstanding team, will you take them up on the 7/2 about Dunloy??

Maybe, but when you consider that antrim teams almost always put up a good show in the all ireland series, our level at the top of div 1 club mustn't be that far away from clubs in the top counties? Strengthening the middle order is really the area which needs to develop in Antrim more than the top sides don't you think?
Never was a betting man Rocky even when we were sure things, so don't think i'll start now


I have always been of the opinion that the time of the year the Club Semis are played at is a great leveller for the Antrim/Down teams. Teams wont be at their sharpest with heavy pitches,poor weather, lack of meaningful matches after a long layoff etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 11, 2007, 03:40:52 PM


I have always been of the opinion that the time of the year the Club Semis are played at is a great leveller for the Antrim/Down teams. Teams wont be at their sharpest with heavy pitches,poor weather, lack of meaningful matches after a long layoff etc.
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have to totally disagree with you there balboa, i mean, shamrocks (Shefflin & co) didnt look that unsharpe last year for a start. and are you trying to undermine how well Dunloy have done at the all-ireland stage recently.

i dont think it is a leveller, i agree with skull our top teams in Antrim arent that far away from the top teams down south. the teams we need to improve most are the middle teir so it gets more competitive for the tops teams here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 12, 2007, 08:53:05 AM
I agree with Skull. It's the number of quality teams in southern counties that gives them the edge at county level. Dunloy were among the best dozen club sides in Ireland for 5 or 6 years. Antrim and Down teams that come out of Ulster are well up to the required standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 12, 2007, 08:31:45 PM
Not at all trying to undermine Dunloy, the really good Dunloy teams are a long way better than the top teams in Antrim at the minute. If the club scene is so strong why has it never been transferred to inter county? In fairness Ballyhale have been a cut above anything we have seen for a few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 13, 2007, 12:04:39 AM
Quote from: Balboa on August 12, 2007, 08:31:45 PM
Not at all trying to undermine Dunloy, the really good Dunloy teams are a long way better than the top teams in Antrim at the minute. If the club scene is so strong why has it never been transferred to inter county? In fairness Ballyhale have been a cut above anything we have seen for a few years.

Didn't say the club scene is strong. I'm saying that the top sides aren't that far away from the top club sides down south. The poor standard below the top sides is a big reason why we have never had inter county success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 13, 2007, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?

Where is the thread Loneshark has posted his prices? cant find it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 13, 2007, 09:57:47 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on August 13, 2007, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
Looking at the thread loneshark has started on county championships it would appear that Antrims is a tighter contest (at the top anyway)  than all the other counties listed. Surely thats a positive no?

Where is the thread Loneshark has posted his prices? cant find it

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4192.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4192.0)

are ye blind man  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 14, 2007, 10:00:23 AM
Cushendall beat our minors lst night by 6 points in a very poor match. Thats them into the semi-final. Rossa & St Brendans join them. Loughguile game was called off. Season gets worse!! We play Gort Na Mona on Wednesday in Championship - Senior - brought forward a week cos of U-21 final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 14, 2007, 10:06:03 AM
What date is U21 final set for? still in casement i take it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 14, 2007, 10:08:45 AM
No heard yesterday it is changed to Loughguile for Friday week (24th) at 6.30 ;)

Heard Loughguile were training at 7 on Sunday morning......and a prominent player said its the best training they ahve ever done.....(doesnt it sound familiar)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 10:30:04 AM
st pauls were training at 7.00 am in the senior football championship :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 14, 2007, 10:35:14 AM
Exactly!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Folks we will not know if Loughguile have improved until they get to championship final/semis and are getting it tight, will they push on or lay down like last year. I dont think fitness or hurling ability is the issue, i think its all in their head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 14, 2007, 10:43:45 AM
Guys

can you imagine if Dunloy or Cushendall are throwing it into loughgiel and go 5-6 points clear, what would be the reaction be?

We can only go on previous years when they fold like a house of cards. Have they improved any or got any new players ?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 14, 2007, 12:26:31 PM
North Antrim..I thought the minor match was a good competitive tough match in poor conditions. The standard was never going to great due to the weather & state of the pitch, but it was hard fought by both teams.

It seems like the shamrocks are bit of early birds, the camogie team trained at 7.30am on Sunday, not sure if it was the best ever as well. Like Balboa says we arent going to know what they are like til the semi final/final. Every year you hear stories about how they are training like madmen but every year they shit the nest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Folks we will not know if Loughguile have improved until they get to championship final/semis and are getting it tight, will they push on or lay down like last year. I dont think fitness or hurling ability is the issue, i think its all in their head.

Better to have lost in love than never to have loved before rocky (if you get my drift) :P....jesus here I am sticking up for the bodies  :-[.......MAMMY

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 01:36:55 PM
well skull all set for milltown come the 22nd? 

reserves got a wee friendly last night but cant get games for the seniors, training this wed hope to get more than ten seniors this time.

have all your injury problems been sorted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Folks we will not know if Loughguile have improved until they get to championship final/semis and are getting it tight, will they push on or lay down like last year. I dont think fitness or hurling ability is the issue, i think its all in their head.

Better to have lost in love than never to have loved before rocky (if you get my drift) :P....jesus here I am sticking up for the bodies  :-[.......MAMMY

Skull i didnt know we were talking about Glenariffe here, i think any points i have made about Loughguile are fairly valid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Folks we will not know if Loughguile have improved until they get to championship final/semis and are getting it tight, will they push on or lay down like last year. I dont think fitness or hurling ability is the issue, i think its all in their head.

Better to have lost in love than never to have loved before rocky (if you get my drift) :P....jesus here I am sticking up for the bodies  :-[.......MAMMY

Skull i didnt know we were talking about Glenariffe here, i think any points i have made about Loughguile are fairly valid.

I know you're not but I'm trying to get you to  :P. Regularly commenting about how loughguile have ate the onion stops you from looking at you own clubs failings does it not?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 15, 2007, 08:00:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2007, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 14, 2007, 10:39:12 AM
Folks we will not know if Loughguile have improved until they get to championship final/semis and are getting it tight, will they push on or lay down like last year. I dont think fitness or hurling ability is the issue, i think its all in their head.
Better to have lost in love than never to have loved before rocky (if you get my drift) :P....jesus here I am sticking up for the bodies  :-[.......MAMMY



Skull i didnt know we were talking about Glenariffe here, i think any points i have made about Loughguile are fairly valid.

I know you're not but I'm trying to get you to  :P. Regularly commenting about how loughguile have ate the onion stops you from looking at you own clubs failings does it not?


Im pretty sure nobody on this board is too interested about the "failings" in our club, i am open to contradiction here. I think the issue of Loughguile getting to 4 finals in a row and not winning seems to be more topical.. 3 clubs have won Antrim championship since 1990 i think, and obviously Rossa was a bolt from the blue when you see the state they are in now so perhaps every other club in Antrim is failing. Its all relative Skull, in all honesty Glenariffe are not setting out to win a senior championship at the start of the year. We have only been playing Div 1 hurling for 5 yrs. 6 or 7 years ago our biggest rivals would have been Armoy  :o so i think we have come a fair way, and another big improvement is needed to make another step up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 15, 2007, 12:49:51 PM
North Antrim

I know your post was well enough meaning, but to describe Pinky as lacking in committment is unreal. This is a guy that has committed himself to Antrim for more years than I can remember. Where were you when he was running around Cushendun on a wintery sunday morning under Dinny Cahill or Tredging down to god knows where in the south under Sean McNaughton.

Is it any wonder our young guys think twice about playing for the county when all they get for it is stick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 15, 2007, 01:24:00 PM
As am I,this crap that we are being spoon fed about the lifestyle commitment and all that woody and sambo are trying to enforce. I dare you to take a dnader into cushendall at the week and see how many of the current squad you would find in sambo's bar. If pinky was able to shake of the hamstring injuries I would still take him above any of the current crop of young 'STARS' who have yet to prove anything tro me.

I know what your getting at North Antrim but what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Post by: youngfella on August 15, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
i have alot of time for pinky, such a nice guy. A lot of county players past, present and future could learn from pinky's fitness and committment levels. I've seen the big fella more times that i remember on his own practising frees, sprint training, you name it. So what the fella takes a drink its not going to kill him, sambo should stop kidding himself its not like he never touched the stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 15, 2007, 01:34:36 PM
Is this the same Sambo & Woody that had some of the players out for a few pints the night before the Limerick relegation playoff this year? Dont believe everything S & W say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 15, 2007, 02:02:46 PM
North Antrim, I know Cushendall have alot of players on the county panel but I'd call up Donal McNaughton as well, he has been in excellant in midfield for us, excellant striker of the ball & strong in the air.

Agree with NAG, if you went to An Caman you would see most of our players in there as well. Every player is entitled to a drink or two, but I know most of our county boys were drinking after the Clare match, after the Laois match, & i'm sure the rest of the team where, but they should have been off it til after the 3 mccarthy cup quailifers & not during them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 15, 2007, 02:34:06 PM
Boys

Dont get me wrong I think the lads should all take a drink when they want it. We ask too much of them already as amateurs. I just think that we shouldnt getting on one players case when the management know fine well that other players are doing the same, Woody drinks in the Bridge in dunloy and he has been in the company of many of the lads taking a drink there.

So when the try and push this forward as a reason for dropping players dont buy it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 15, 2007, 03:51:27 PM
I have to be honest that I have no real firm opinion on whether players should be allowed to drink or not. It has been talked about a fair bit on this board before.

Some react better when they are allowed the odd occasional pint to relax, some psychologically like to stay off it to leave no excuses.
But I agree about the "what's good for the goose" argument...players are in this together as a group requiring the same commitment from every man. That's the only way to compete.

If a manager calls a drinks ban then abide by it.
When reading books about the sacrifices made by the great hurling teams down south and by the Ulster football teams in their periods of success over the last 20 years...going back to the 4 in a row at the start of the 90's and then the Tyrone and Armagh years...we pale into comparison.

Do we want to compete at that level? Then sacrifices are going to have to be made.

It won't come easy because it doesn't elsewhere.

A little true story:
I have quite a close connection to some people from Kilkenny and was chatting to them there a month ago.
One lady has two children aged 2 and 4. For a few years since the elder one knew what hurling was and knew where the pitch was every time he passed it he would say "When can I go and play mum?". To appease him the mother said something along the lines of "Don't worry son, they will come for you".
About a week before his 4th birthday (by way of reviewing the parish registry) a local man from the club arrives to the front door with his son. He had a little hurl in hand. The mother answers the door "Is Jimmy there?". Jimmy is also the name of the father and the wife said he's out at work. "No I'm looking for young Jimmy". Jimmy was stood behind the mother runs up to the man and pulls him by the leg. The man put the hurl in Jimmy's hand and Jimmy proceeded to run round the garden swinging the hurling. Turning to the mother the man said "There's training next week at the local pitch at 6pm, make sure Jimmy is there". They chat for a bit and he goes to walk away. Seeing Jimmy swinging the stick he turns back to mother and asks him what hand he writes with/uses. He had the wrong hand at the top of the hurl "see that he is holding the stick with the right hand at the top come training next week".
The man heads off no doubt to Jimmy's class mates' houses.

Now this is completely true, maybe paraphrased slightly.
At the time I was eating dinner and for a second stopped eating (nothing puts me off my food...).

That is what we are up against.

No one has a notion who that man is but he's arguably as important to this whole thing as Brian Cody is.
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Post by: maxpower on August 15, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
amazing story glensman, from 4 years of age.

i was down at a coaching conference in Dublin a few years back with a lot of the top coaches speakers in Ireland there.  they presented an awful lot of the science of coaching, Mickey Harte talked about freshness and Niall Moyna and come of the Ulster Council lads spent alot of time preaching about the need to NOT coach young boys, this whole fundamental approach, it was suggested that kids didn't need to learn the skills of hurling/football until 10-14years old. 

They asked Brian Cody and his take on it was very simple, get a hurl in their hand as early and as often as they could, in complete contrast to the theme of the conference but its been working for them
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Post by: johnneycool on August 15, 2007, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 15, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
amazing story glensman, from 4 years of age.

i was down at a coaching conference in Dublin a few years back with a lot of the top coaches speakers in Ireland there.  they presented an awful lot of the science of coaching, Mickey Harte talked about freshness and Niall Moyna and come of the Ulster Council lads spent alot of time preaching about the need to NOT coach young boys, this whole fundamental approach, it was suggested that kids didn't need to learn the skills of hurling/football until 10-14years old. 

They asked Brian Cody and his take on it was very simple, get a hurl in their hand as early and as often as they could, in complete contrast to the theme of the conference but its been working for them

If youngsters aren't holding the hurl right at a very early age you'll have huge difficulties trying to get them to change at even 8 years of age.

I'd be inclined to go with Cody on this one. I think a few of our lads were at the same conference and according to one of them they even talked about coaching youngsters how to run properly as a lot don't run unless it's in a controlled environment like coaching sessions etc. Gone are the days of running about the roads or fields with your mates to all hours and we're worse off for it, but that's the world we live in i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 15, 2007, 04:42:20 PM
Thats was the general arguement of the confernece, kids don't have the generic movement skills nowadays because they aren't out climbing trees, doing garden runs, playing rin a tin tin etc that most previous generations where doing.

The sports professionals at the confernece felt that in as the only form of exercise the children are now getting they would be best off learning these skills than sport specific skills.  I can see arguements for and against both cases, my own personal opinion is that hurling is a very specialised sport and thus require greater attention to the skills, therefore if a player is too develop into a county standard player they need to develop these skills early.  so get a stick in the hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:44:08 PM
Yeah I firmly believe that the kids should have a hurl in their hands as early as they can, as soon as they can swing a stick the better, the early year balls they have at the minute are great not too many windows will be put in with them. They are bigger and soft so they are ideal for early starters.

Having coached kids for years, the ones that have always stuck out were the ones who were always down on the pitch for every game  (be it senior or under 12) or at the away games, they bring their sticks and constantly practice the difficult skills along with the regular ones.

In the likes of Kilkenny and Cork it's more of a religion than a sport, kids are brought up with stories of clubmen and club teams winning all Irelands. Parents are usually involved so passion and pride plays a big part. The problem that city teams have and to a smaller extent country teams is that there are too many other distractions in Kilkenny it's hurling from nursery right through till college. No football no soccer. They play a bit of handball (winter sport) name me a sports man outside of those two from Kilkenny


rin a tin tin!!!!!!! try running away from the peelers and brits during the the hunger strikes you were learning to run like Ben Johnson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 15, 2007, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:44:08 PM
Yeah I firmly believe that the kids should have a hurl in their hands as early as they can, as soon as they can swing a stick the better, the early year balls they have at the minute are great not too many windows will be put in with them. They are bigger and soft so they are ideal for early starters.

Having coached kids for years, the ones that have always stuck out were the ones who were always down on the pitch for every game  (be it senior or under 12) or at the away games, they bring their sticks and constantly practice the difficult skills along with the regular ones.

In the likes of Kilkenny and Cork it's more of a religion than a sport, kids are brought up with stories of clubmen and club teams winning all Irelands. Parents are usually involved so passion and pride plays a big part. The problem that city teams have and to a smaller extent country teams is that there are too many other distractions in Kilkenny it's hurling from nursery right through till college. No football no soccer. They play a bit of handball (winter sport) name me a sports man outside of those two from Kilkenny



Micheal Reddy played soccer for Sunderland and is with Grimsey Town now.Also there is a snooker player who is only 14 and is suppose to be the next big thing,his name i can't remember at the moment.You also have the Golfer Gary Murphy
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Post by: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:50:58 PM
EXACTLY ;D
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Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 15, 2007, 04:55:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:50:58 PM
EXACTLY ;D

I see your point,but having grown up in Kilkenny(yes im from Laois but am nearer to Kilkenny City than Portlaoise) Hurling while yes a religion in Kilkenny is not the only sport played there.Soccer is actually massive there and they have a very competitive District League in which I played and actually marked Henry Shefflin one day as well as Ken O'Shea who also played for Kilkenny,and Pj Ryan the current Kilkenny goalkeeper  also grew up playing soccer and only turned to hurling when he was 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
i'm not knocking you Laoisman. but they have less distracting sports than belfast, Derry, (which only have one gaa club, if theres more let me know)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 15, 2007, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
i'm not knocking you Laoisman. but they have less distracting sports than belfast, Derry, (which only have one gaa club, if theres more let me know)

Ah sure i know your not i just think its good for kids to play a lot of sports thats all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 15, 2007, 06:25:33 PM
Folks you have taken me up wrong on the Pinky issue - i know he trains very hard, does extra sessions etc etc. However he like many others in antrim do not live the lives of Pro athletes.....and im not knocking them either cos yes they are amaeteurs and realistically wont won an all-ireland. My point is that the stars in Kilkenny, Waterford, Armagh, Dublin, Tyrone Kerry live very different social lives to our big players......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 15, 2007, 06:42:55 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 15, 2007, 08:00:46 AM

Im pretty sure nobody on this board is too interested about the "failings" in our club, i am open to contradiction here. I think the issue of Loughguile getting to 4 finals in a row and not winning seems to be more topical.. 3 clubs have won Antrim championship since 1990 i think, and obviously Rossa was a bolt from the blue when you see the state they are in now so perhaps every other club in Antrim is failing. Its all relative Skull, in all honesty Glenariffe are not setting out to win a senior championship at the start of the year. We have only been playing Div 1 hurling for 5 yrs. 6 or 7 years ago our biggest rivals would have been Armoy  :o so i think we have come a fair way, and another big improvement is needed to make another step up.


Well I think its high time that alot of people started to get interested about how the likes of Glenariffe, Lamh Dearg, St Galls, Rossa, GNM, Ballycastle are doing. Until these teams start trying to climb up the ladder again instead on perennially being as bad year in year out then antrim hurling is all the worse for it. Serious structured effort needs to be put in by all clubs to ensure coaching standards are are the right level accross the boad. This obviously is not happening. Dunloy are as big a culprits and we are currently paying the price for it as our U12's & 14 are playing in Div2 for the first time in a lifetime (too may ex-players standing on the first tee in ballycastle instead of putting something back into the game). We are starting to put the right structures in place but it will take us years to recover at juvenile level. The county should be monitoring, and advising each club to ensure the efforts are being made accross the board.

Great story there Glensman...KK seems a world away when you hear that story. "The Mammy's" up here would look at you twice if you did that up here. The apathy of some people is sickening. Too much choice really is a bad thing and the kids up here are ruined by mammies who offer it all to their kids rather than getting them to commit to something. Starting to rant big time..... >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 15, 2007, 10:29:18 PM
You definately need to have the kids out as early as possible. We've started doing alot of work with our P3 & P4's, now they are a talented bunch but that's also of the amount of work in organising matches/extra coaching. The senior panel have been approached to help out once a week on a Monday nite for an hour each & it does make a differance. But you need to do this year in year out or like Skull says with the Dunloy U12's & U14's you will suffer. The problem is some parents treat it as babysitting service & dont encourage the kids. Alot of our younger ones are never off the pitch, be it after training or watching matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 16, 2007, 08:56:13 AM
Have to say im impressed with this debate and the responses to it.

Having done some coaching I totally agree with the sentiments and echo them, get a hurl in their hand as early as possible and as often as possible. These guys getting paid big bucks at Ulster council level to come up with schemes like 'The Fundamentals' have totally missed the skilled element required in hurling. Now dont get me wrong there are some skillfull footballers around but if you get a big strong man teach him to run get him fit and he can actually catch a football then he can make it to inter county level football (Shane Ryan and countless other examples around the country). Ulster council have yet to get to the core of the hurling crisis and that is getting into the clubs and schools effectively and getting these children early.

Every club has had the kids who are always in the field with their hurl playing with the older boys because they are too good for their own age, they never put their hurl down and think on their level of skill compared to the rest of their age group.

The rest of the running and the physical element will come to them as time goes on, they dont need to be taught how to run. So for my part I would ask the Highly paid officials to get off their arse and try and get to the crux of the hurling development problem in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2007, 09:14:03 AM
read alot of GAA biographies, and alot of sports biographies in general and the common theme seems to the coaching the recieved in Schools, primary and secondary level.  thats just hasn't been happening often enough here.  I think i'm right in saying the Primary Schools in the south would be (or at least where) traditionally the first place that a young boy would be introduced to coaching, and then passed onto a club, i'd say the coaching in schools is largely restricted to the odd session organised by the county board or by ulter council.

A primary school in derry has an ex derry hurling manager as principal, he takes the p6&p7 for training, derry county pay a coach to take p4/5 and he has organised lunch time tournaments for the younger ones, which the older pupils act as refs, managers etc.  seems to work well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 16, 2007, 10:19:33 AM
we beat GNM last nite 5-13 to 1-3.........seriously poor game and highlights problem with our championship........Game was scheduled for 7.15pm. At 7.20 GNM still hadnt arrived for a SENIOR HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP match. Then they started to arrive and came out onto the pitch in drips and drabs and game stareted at 7.41pm!!! They hadnt to play for and there effort was zero. We were poor too although at least we had something to play for and won at a canter......but MAJOR improvement will be needed to beat ST johns.

Great debate about coaching.....I know there isnt much work done at primary school level but clubs also have an input here. Aye know some football clubs who bus the P3 & 4s one day to their pitch and have club coaches there, and p.5,6 & 7 on another day with different coaches. This has been going on for past 5 years and they are getting the rewards. Even at secondary school level not enough is being done....during 80's & 90's when i attended Cross & Passion michael dallat & Brian Thompson RIP did alot of work which we saw the dividends of in eighties and 90's. However for next 10 years nothing was done until Cassidy & Kearney arrived and they are putting in the work. But the clubs i feel have a big part to play cos primary schools are very much female teacher led hence no one with hurling experience.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 16, 2007, 10:39:30 AM
this mis match last night only highlights the group games problems. gorts had nothing to play for they are in the football semi finals and have had to pull out half a team to play last night.  i noticed no nipper Quinn on the team, was he injured as he played as a sub in the football the other night.

two way league and a straight knockout game, first out of the draw home venue, till the semi finals thats plenty of games and also could through up more shocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 16, 2007, 10:45:11 AM
North Antrim.......I cant understand playing these championship matches on a wednesday night, there have been plenty of free Sundays, its hard for boys to get to Belfast from North Antrim and vice versa for a match starting at 7.15pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 16, 2007, 10:59:39 AM
Totally agree - and i ask the question - when does the football championship get played.......Weekends!!! Honestly last night was the worst game i have watched in easily 10 years >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 16, 2007, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2007, 02:14:07 PM
Skull, when you say that Rossa have been bad, year in year out. For how many years? Granted they have been poor the last two years since they won the championship but they were by no means bad any of the years before they won it. They were often unlucky and were always knocking at the door. The year before they won it, Dunloy beat them in Casement by 2 points I think but Rossa lead for most of the match. Then there was the game the year before (I think) were Loughguile beat them 7-07 to 3-18. You cannot say that they have been consistantly poor in any championship games before last year.

Hardstation i remember that match over in Dunloy, if the Rossa keeper wasnt doing a Stevie Wonder impression they would have beaten Loughguile out the gate. They were a serious outfit for a few years there and the championship they did win was their last real chance, since that they lost the two Grahams, Connolly etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 16, 2007, 02:50:42 PM
That was a funny game that night. The keeper was all over the place or they would have won handy.

They had three good years at it and eventually got there that was them at their peak, its a club in serious trouble at the moment. Hearing serious rumours about their club and money going missing and everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 16, 2007, 05:09:28 PM
Can't deny that Rossa should/could have beat us twice before they eventually got the break two years ago, so on championship form they have never been that far away. In the league though at that time they were brutal and never put any effort in to bring on players and try and build the panel of players that they had. Where have all those talented minors went to? Isn't Gavin Bell the only one from his final year in minor to be still playing, when that was a fantastic team full of talented individual hurlers. Travesty that more were not brought through to senior, but I know we don't have the same distractions round here that exist in the big smoke

They do seem to have under invested (like ourselves) at juvenile and will pay the price for it I think in the next 5 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 16, 2007, 05:14:16 PM
Rossa have some very underage players coming through lads - Conor Rocks, Matt Devlin, Young Shannon t o mention a few....aye know where your coming from but they are in minor semi-final and got to u-21 semi final which is better than alot of clubs...Isnt that rite Balboa!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 16, 2007, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 16, 2007, 05:14:16 PM
Rossa have some very underage players coming through lads - Conor Rocks, Matt Devlin, Young Shannon t o mention a few....aye know where your coming from but they are in minor semi-final and got to u-21 semi final which is better than alot of clubs...Isnt that rite Balboa!!!

Please explain !! You can always count on North Antrim for a bit of Hogan Standitis, Glenariffe did not have the numbers to enter an U-21 team this year. Are you getting nervous about the GCSE results coming out next week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on August 17, 2007, 10:47:51 AM
Quote from: groundlie on August 17, 2007, 10:27:23 AM
Talking of young players coming through out realistically can we say will be to household senior players for us in year to come?

McManus is has proved he has the class and strength this year. Graffin is a tenacious young lad and is all heart could do with bulking up abit tho. Young Sambo is a skilful hurler good prospect aswell as Magill.
You would think Eddie Mccloskey and Joey Scullion would feature in years to come aswell as Shorty who I think is a great player, very cute tidy hurler. Paddy Doc maybe?? The town would have Hippy, Dallat & Neil all very exciting players. McAuley needs to be played at the back (full) where he belongs great hurler.

Belfast we have Micko who is now a leader on the team possible captain. Simon McCrory showed a lot of potential this yr, strong and fast. Barry McFall is a steady back who I would like to see get a run in the league.

Anybody else have any views? Im sure ive missed a few??


It takes more than playing to the crowd and kissing your jersey to be considered a "leader".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 17, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
micko sure he'll dirty joe you in town when your team puts them out of championship ;D

he's a real leader
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 17, 2007, 11:02:44 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 17, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
micko sure he'll dirty joe you in town when your team puts them out of championship ;D

he's a real leader

Micko is one of these "rent a quote" fellas in the run up to an Antrim match, the hurlers answer to Kevin Mc Gourty, he must have the Irish News on speed dial. There seems to be some difference in him and the 2 brothers, they seem reasonable, decent fellas but he is just a p*ick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 12:30:49 PM
Skull
From Gavin Bell's last year minor for Rossa I remember names liked Paddy Kelly, Armstrong, Grievesy, Scoose (when not in England), McManus, Toner and a few others.
You are right - for one reason or another they have all disappeared.
I was playing around the same time and when on song they were as good a minor team as I have seen.

I hadn't realised Micko was involved in the incident after the Galls LD football match...adds fuel to the fire. If he could control himself he'd be a great asset to any team.
With regard to great minors mentioned before his performance at centre half back in what must have been an all ireland 1/4 final against Wexford a few years back was as individually good as I have seen from any Antrim man/boy.


PS on another note I went to watch my first hurling match (or GAA match of any description) in Larne last night. We might be sh1te and need alot of improvement in this county but for a godforsaken place like Larne to have a relatively thriving little GAA community its great and a testament to the hard work of GAA minded individuals. Now for them to start importing shinty players on the boat and actually win a game.

THIS COUNTY MESSES WITH MY HEAD...I GET DOWN WHEN I SEE KILKENNY START TRAINING THEIR CHILDER AT THE AGE OF 4...THEN I CONSOLE MYSELF WITH THE FACT THAT LARNE, BALLYMONEY, BUSHMILLS (ok so I made this one up), EVEN THE MALONE ROADERS ALL HAVE GAA TEAMS.

ITS A ROLLER COASTER RIDE BEING A SAFFRON.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 17, 2007, 02:04:47 PM
Was that the McCaughan cup final?? Larne v Cloughmills?

i presume Cloughmills would have won that with ease..?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 17, 2007, 02:29:55 PM
Balboa - Hogan Standitis......you seem to have a infactuation with the Hogan Stand you twat.......my point was simple.....every one was ststing that Rossa were F**ked and are doing no work at underage etc etc. I made the point that they have some very good players coming through and are in minor semi final and got to U-21 semi final this year.....and once again you have taken the bait.

As regards GCSE results ...im sure you have no problem accessing them ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 17, 2007, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 17, 2007, 02:29:55 PM
Balboa - Hogan Standitis......you seem to have a infactuation with the Hogan Stand you twat.......my point was simple.....every one was ststing that Rossa were F**ked and are doing no work at underage etc etc. I made the point that they have some very good players coming through and are in minor semi final and got to U-21 semi final this year.....and once again you have taken the bait.

As regards GCSE results ...im sure you have no problem accessing them ;) ;)

::)  ::)  ::) All joking aside North Antrim lets hope you have the GCSE's in the bag because some of the raw data you are producing is worrying. I particularly like it a few months ago when you described Pinky as a "great defencer".......  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 17, 2007, 03:36:52 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 17, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
i think it was mickey Dallat and not his twin Peter he was referring too. Better player, more committed and if given rite direction will make a very good club player but unfortnuately dont think will make senior county. He marked young Brick the other nite - dalls best player and the two broke even.....Brick really only contributing from frees

Maybe Balboa will have an opinion....hes seem to have on everything else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 17, 2007, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 17, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
i think it was mickey Dallat and not his twin Peter he was referring too. Better player, more committed and if given rite direction will make a very good club player but unfortnuately dont think will make senior county. He marked young Brick the other nite - dalls best player and the two broke even.....Brick really only contributing from frees

Maybe Balboa will have an opinion....hes seem to have on everything else

Nothing to add.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 10:29:00 PM
Get a room North Antrim and Balboa.

Cloughmills won with a bit to spare Girt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on August 18, 2007, 04:16:07 PM
The McCaughan Cup final was close at half-time, 0-9 to 1-2 for Cloughmills. I think they thought it would be easier than it was turning out. They scored a goal within a minute of the restart, generally stepped things up and eased away with it from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 21, 2007, 08:52:38 AM
i see ourselves and loughgiel are both down to play in the city tomorrow night for 6:45pm, i think both ourselves and st galls are still unbeaten so should be an interesting tussle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on August 21, 2007, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2007, 08:52:38 AM
i see ourselves and loughgiel are both down to play in the city tomorrow night for 6:45pm, i think both ourselves and st galls are still unbeaten so should be an interesting tussle

"Interesting"? The match will be over in the 1st half, St Galls are unbeaten because they have only played Lamh Dhearg as yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2007, 04:11:14 PM
Glensman, I assume you haven't checked the results section on the county and North Antrim websites by chance. If you do, you'll find that Latharna Og have won several fixtures this season, at senior and underage level. So there is no need for Larne to import shinty players on the boat or anywhere else to play our national game as the club has a thriving youth set up with 2 players on the Antrim U-16 development squad. In case you are not aware, the hurling club in Larne was founded 42 years ago in 1965 and had to put up with the usual hassle from the usual suspects until recently when they opened their second pitch closer to the town, where the McCaughan Cup final was played last week. The McCaughan Cup was presented to the North Antrim board in memory of James McCaughan, founding member and driving force behind the Latharna Og club, especially when times were bad in the late 80's and 90's.
You may have previously attended a hurling match or two at Larne's other pitch in Feystown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 21, 2007, 06:43:17 PM
Antrim Coaster

Apologies if in any way my flippant remarks appeared derogatory. There were not intended to do so in the slightest. From the rest of my post I hope it is clear that I am utterly impressed by what has gone and is going on in Larne and that I have the utmost respect for the people involved.
I stayed for the presentation of the cup by James McCaughan's granddaughter I think (his son was running the show otherwise), which was nice and you could see that his son was a little moved.
I never actually made it to Feystown.

All the best anyway and avoid taking things so seriously...if you take half of the stuff on here that way you'd be forever pulling people up on things - I used to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 08:51:46 AM
Quote from: SeanSouth on August 21, 2007, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2007, 08:52:38 AM
i see ourselves and loughgiel are both down to play in the city tomorrow night for 6:45pm, i think both ourselves and st galls are still unbeaten so should be an interesting tussle

"Interesting"? The match will be over in the 1st half, St Galls are unbeaten because they have only played Lamh Dhearg as yet.

yes sean south we only beat lamhs late on and it was not a good game. i dont think we have ever ran out easy winners against Lamhs. as it's never a proper game, too many fouls and vendettas going around to let the game flow.

tonights game will be tough for us Dunloy seem to be hitting top gear at the minute and hopefully we will put up some resistance. we have too many away at the minute from our senior team to put in a challenge. the footballers can absorb this, we (hurlers) cant

max i see you seem to bring on Ally in the second half. is this in every game this year? and your under 21 play the final this week will they all be playing tonight or will you play some of your panel instead.

Glenariff beat us in the league this year at home so you should walk it tonight ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 22, 2007, 09:34:55 AM
Milltown row, what was it Ger Loughnane said 'I'm not going to tell Tipp our team, if i'd my way i wouldn't even tell them the time for throw in'  or words to that effect.

I wish the match was going to be as easy as you/others have been trying to suggest but the reality is we know we are in for a battle, never won handily in Milltown and in what is effectively a SHC Quarter final i don't expect tonight to be any different.

A bit dissapointed with the timing of the game, its not easy to get up to belfast fo 6pm, would it not have made more sense to play this game last sunday, it would also have given your boys more time to prepare for the football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 09:43:19 AM
Is the match at 6.45pm and are youse charging in?? I dont think i have ever seen anyone lifting money at your place, i suppose that its championship the usual lackeys from Casement will be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 22, 2007, 09:44:28 AM
Balboa

There is only ever a gate lifted in belfast when the north antrim teams are involved, its not worth their while otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 09:51:24 AM
max we tried to have the game played at the weekend we would have prefered the game then. it's tough on you coming down we are down to loughgiel next friday night for 6.30 the football championships have been fixed for the weekend and the majority of our players play for the football team.

i'm sure you will be down in good time and well warmed up for the match, we've been hammpered this year with various things but hopefully the lads will be up for a good entertaining match.

i believe youse are ten points better off. good conditions tonight should make the game flow.

ill say sorry now for the changing rooms. i'll head up early today and try and clean them out. the home rooms are no better.

balboa, have you anything good to say? lately you seem to be pissed off :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 22, 2007, 09:55:06 AM
Milltown

What is the good word on the changing rooms?

Are there any plans to have them knocked down and rebuilt or any sort of solution in the near future?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 09:51:24 AM

balboa, have you anything good to say? lately you seem to be pissed off :'(

Have i missed something, what did i say that wasnt "good"? That i have never seen a gate being lifted in Milltown ? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2007, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 22, 2007, 09:55:06 AM
Milltown

What is the good word on the changing rooms?

Are there any plans to have them knocked down and rebuilt or any sort of solution in the near future?

Can I have the bangor blue slates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 10:13:28 AM
money very tight lads. we may be a big club with a bar but if your members dont drink in it then......

listed building cant knock it down....... just joking, sooner it's down the better. there was talk of getting a new one in the future, still waiting though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 22, 2007, 10:17:11 AM
Milltown

Dunloy, Loughgiel and various other clubs dont have strong going social clubs. But they manage to have great grounds and good changing rooms and Dunloy are now on the way to building an Indoor arena unrivalled in the North, how can they manage to do this and u cant?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 22, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
been in the changing rooms before Milltown, as you say not in great shape but sure, the johnnies seem to be in a similar position in that they are a huge club with a big social club yet their changing rooms are falling apart.

Is it easy to fund raise in the country than it is in the city, or why is there such a difference in the clubs facilities.  as NAG says Dunloy's Social club, while serving an important purpose isn't exactly raking in the dough but the club have hugely ambitious plans for a centre of excellence, a third pitch and have recently carried out considerable grounds work.  Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycastle the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 10:42:53 AM
fundraising years ago at our club was great before we got the new clubrooms, then after raking in the money from the new bar and hall we put it to good use, coaching and new pitches.

since the ceasfire the Gaa clubs in belfast have lost a lot of regulars that now go elsewhere so we have lost the revenue and its been difficult. fundraising is now on the agenda and hopefully in the next five to ten years we will also have the facilities that the north antrim clubs are producing at the minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 22, 2007, 10:59:53 AM
Not sure that Cushendall and ballycastle are leading lights in the fundraising stakes!!!?  In my mind ballycastle are one of the worst supported clubs in the county, relative to the size of the town.  problems in past are hard to shake.  they now have excellenet facilities (and a great committee) but this was in no small part due to the fact that they were able to sell their exisiting pitch for housing. 

C'dall were in the fortunate position that they were able to buy their facilities from the council about 15 years ago for a song!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: podge on August 22, 2007, 10:59:53 AM
Not sure that Cushendall and ballycastle are leading lights in the fundraising stakes!!!?  In my mind ballycastle are one of the worst supported clubs in the county, relative to the size of the town.  problems in past are hard to shake.  they now have excellenet facilities (and a great committee) but this was in no small part due to the fact that they were able to sell their exisiting pitch for housing. 

C'dall were in the fortunate position that they were able to buy their facilities from the council about 15 years ago for a song!

In fairness to Cushendall they run a lotto which is a good earner and i could be wrong but i think that Cushendall festival that runs every year also contributes to their coffers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 22, 2007, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: podge on August 22, 2007, 10:59:53 AM
but this was in no small part due to the fact that they were able to sell their exisiting pitch for housing. 

C'dall were in the fortunate position that they were able to buy their facilities from the council about 15 years ago for a song!

no small part podge, fair play to them but this was the only reason, without that option they would be still playing in that dump of a pitch with debts up to their eyes.

@ Balboa, yeah as far as i know the Marquee thing they run the weekend before the festival is part of their funraising.

btw i think Dunloy will win pretty handy tonight, 8 - 10 points if not more also loughgeil easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2007, 12:17:49 PM
Are profitable social clubs not pretty much a thing of the past now anyway?

Things done in country clubs to raise funds - poker nights, player funds, lottos - which are generally pretty successful - and big draws every 3/4 years. Also a lot of country clubs charge in to league matches (not much mind) but it does get them some money and I have yet to see a city club that charges in to a league match.

Festivals in country clubs are big enough earners too. Country clubs have the benefit in that in most places the club is the centre of the community. The city doesn't really have this advantage so all these things make it more difficult in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 02:15:51 PM
anyway back to the match, give it timber your right they are at least 8-10 points better off than Naomh Gall, we've been unlucky that the draw has paried us with two of the better teams were at least in the other group we could have competed for the semi final place behind Cushendall.

that said we have to deal with it.getting lamhs first has given us a chance unlike Glenariff who had to play Dunloy and loughgiel.

bloody concert on tonight and some lads on the team have given daft excuses for not turning up for the game.

lads these days need to take a good long look at themselves. although if a Football championship match was on they would miss the concert no problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 02:15:51 PM
anyway back to the match, give it timber your right they are at least 8-10 points better off than Naomh Gall, we've been unlucky that the draw has paried us with two of the better teams were at least in the other group we could have competed for the semi final place behind Cushendall.

that said we have to deal with it.getting lamhs first has given us a chance unlike Glenariff who had to play Dunloy and loughgiel.

bloody concert on tonight and some lads on the team have given daft excuses for not turning up for the game.

lads these days need to take a good long look at themselves. although if a Football championship match was on they would miss the concert no problem.

We play Lamh Dhearg on Sunday in championship, a dead rubber as they say, we are gonna ask them if they will do a "2 for 1 offer" as we still have to play them in league and have only 2 league games left. We are entering a team in Kilmacud Sevens this year and some of the younger lads that are taking part in it are training a bit but other than that we have finished for the year.I hear Lamh Dhearg are reasonable chaps anyway Milltown  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 02:55:12 PM
no problem unless you have a knack of knocking them out of Championship every year in hurling and football. dont turn your back you may be dirty joe'd or mick'ed if you catch my drift.

have been interested in putting a team in the kilmacuds, did you just ask for an invite? we have played in the st judes junior a few years in a row, best craic well looked after and the banter in town that night second to none. some boys staying over i hope?

few lads from the club heading down on the saturday. will probably head over and watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 02:55:12 PM
no problem unless you have a knack of knocking them out of Championship every year in hurling and football. dont turn your back you may be dirty joe'd or mick'ed if you catch my drift.

have been interested in putting a team in the kilmacuds, did you just ask for an invite? we have played in the st judes junior a few years in a row, best craic well looked after and the banter in town that night second to none. some boys staying over i hope?

few lads from the club heading down on the saturday. will probably head over and watch

Im not sure how we got invited, we played Kilmacud in a pre season friendly so it probably came from that.Aye we raised a bit of money to pay for the lads hotel then there is about another 5 or 6 players heading down on the Saturday to watch the sevens and get blocked, on the look out for tickets at the minute, hopefully get enough. The craic out at the sevens is the best bit of the weekend, you always seem to run into McFall lying blocked in the clubhouse !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 22, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
U-21 final on friday against dunloy...hopefully milltown you will do us a favour and cut lumps out of them tonight and hopefully slow a few of them down for Friday night ;)

Skull or max - is it true Sean dowds is out with broken bone in hand?

Our preparation are going well at present, so hopefully we can pull it off

As for 2nite - dunloy will pull away in last 20 to win easy while Shamrocks will slaughter Lamh Dearg who like GNM have nothing to play for!"!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 22, 2007, 09:43:55 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 22, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
U-21 final on friday against dunloy...hopefully milltown you will do us a favour and cut lumps out of them tonight and hopefully slow a few of them down for Friday night ;)

Skull or max - is it true Sean dowds is out with broken bone in hand?

Our preparation are going well at present, so hopefully we can pull it off

As for 2nite - dunloy will pull away in last 20 to win easy while Shamrocks will slaughter Lamh Dearg who like GNM have nothing to play for!"!

Story of your life NorthAntrim..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 23, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
As a neutral at the match between st galls and dunloy i must agree with the comment about st galls palyers and sideline constantly bickering at the ref.  it wasn;t the worst refereeing performance ever and he certainly wasn;t being helped by st galls attitude (players and management). they questionned almost every decision even though most were clear cut.  What was that all about milltown? 

anyhow, dunoy were disappointing to say the least- maybe they were holding some back or maybe st galls deserve some credit for this.  in particular the full back and centre half (kieran mc gourty?) looked good.  didn;t have enough up front and a bad goal from a short free in the first half was crucial.

it was a new look dunloy team with no mc mullans (??) and patch out at centre back where he was good.  keeper had a good game.  liam richmond looked much sharper than last year but conor cunning looked a but rusty and in poor shape for him.  plenty of fire power on dunloys line with d mc mullan, c mc guckian, p richmond, p shiels?

big improvement required from dunloy if they are to challenge for the title but they may be pacing themselves.  Was impressed by st galls hurling but not their attitude I am afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2007, 09:12:39 AM
nag your off the mark there, yes Dunloy had players on the line that would normally start, we also had players missing injured and so on, 6.45 start? game did not start till after 7 and Dunloy players were down before galls players!!!!!!

as for the game it was competitive till a school boy error let in ally for a goal. it was 3  2 to Dunloy after 15 minutes and they scored the next 4 points all down to that goal, heads dropped as usual.

the lads rallyed in the second half and put in a better display. now your talk of us getting frees is also daft, check the scoring of Dunloy and tell me how many frees did the referee give Dunloy?

if you were at the game then you will have seen that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 23, 2007, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 23, 2007, 09:04:14 AM
i'm not going to come and defend the attitude of the line (of which i'm part of) but the county board did a disservice here and put in place a referee who has not officiated at this level before.

you country men have i'm sure not had this referee before. he normally does the South antrim football games (beer belly leagues) and while some of the decisions were clear cut some where not. magee pulled a ball from behind the cross bar, now skull correct me if i'm wrong. he never went beyond he 45's. his first free set the tone when after some intense tackling he blew when no foul was committed.

thats two games in championship that we have ended up with a first timer, when a more experienced referee is doing the line. i understand that there is a shortage of referees in the county, and these referees need to start somewhere but, it's a sad states of affairs in antrim that we cant encourage ex players to take up refereeing, yes they may also miss things in the game but they generally get it right.

i do believe our club players do give off far too much, this is not something the management ask the players to do. if we were to concentrate on hurling,  and deal with the referees decision then we would do all right.






...and milltown you then went on to try and defend the attitude of the line..




don;lt get me wrong, there was no serious abuse or threatening of the ref but it really was like watching a bunch of adolescents gurning over nothing....


and you said  'its a sad state of affairs that we can;t encourage more ex players to take up refereriing'...  anyone watching last nights match got a perfect demonstration of why we can't.  from the first whsitle to the last, it was constant.

now from what you have said, you guys had a preconceived image of this particular ref and perhaps you thought he might react to the pressure but still no excuse...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2007, 09:49:03 AM
we will never beat any of the big teams unless we train, Skull you dont believe me when i say our lads never train. having been involved with the current set for the past three years, we have never once trained twice a week or had a full squad to pick from.

they just turn up for games and play. you would have 6 seniors at training doing the training and maybe four standing around trying to look injured, but football training the next night and the same players are going hammer and tong busting a gut to get on that team.

hopefully the new management team that comes in next year will improve it but i seriously doubt it. wining football comes very easily, wining hurling well thats another story. good luck in your next game. we will be going down to Loughgeil to win. it will be tough but unlike Lamhs did last night we will put in a show. to score 1-2 against 4-20 on your own pitch no pride or passion at all there.

Podge, i dont condone shouting at the referee it's not a tactic set out by the management, you only have to go onto our club forum to hear players giving stick about how embarrasing it was to hear them give off to the referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 23, 2007, 09:54:51 AM
Typical result for loughgiel, hammer the little guys when it means nothing at all. Makes no diiference as to how they will play against Dunloy or Cushendall.

Think Dunloy back to full strength and all their players fit are going to be dnagerous enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 23, 2007, 10:28:26 AM
I was at the match, it was pretty scrappy fare, not helped by the ref. If he had of let the game flow a bit more it would have suited Dunloy more, as for Magee pulling one down from behind the crossbar, how the St Galls line were able to tell if that ball was over the bar is beyond me. There was a fella beside me, also a neutral who reckoned "if St Galls players put as much effort into hurling as slabbering at the ref they would be ok". I actually though the pitch does not lend itself to a good match either, it is really bumpy and as hard as the road. Kieran Mc Gourty played well for St Galls, Stoker looks out of shape though. Dunloy did what they had to do with minimum of fuss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2007, 11:18:24 AM
from where i was it was a point, would not have made any difference.

the period from the first goal, Dunloy got going and that was the difference.

we scored 1-6 in the second half to dunloys 1-5. tally up Dunloy's frees to ours and you'll see it was the same. Dunloy missed 2 the hole game we missed 7 two from the wings around the 45 and two 65's straight in front but the three 21 yard frees that our lads went for goal is crazy. they were told to shoot for points. goals come from mistakes or one on ones.

Dunloy may well have went on and won. they were the better team, indiscipline cost us.

anybody at the Lamhs game, where is the lone Loughgeil poster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 23, 2007, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 23, 2007, 09:54:51 AM
Typical result for loughgiel, hammer the little guys when it means nothing at all. Makes no diiference as to how they will play against Dunloy or Cushendall.

Think Dunloy back to full strength and all their players fit are going to be dnagerous enough.

What you want them to do? stop scoring so it looks better for the other team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 23, 2007, 11:23:38 AM
girt

Not saying that at all, its just a typical result for them at this time of the year. Its time these stupid group matches were over with to get down to te serious business.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 23, 2007, 11:38:29 AM
agree.

just don't see why they were singled out when cushendall & dunloy from what i remember have also knocked up big scores against the 'little guys' as you put it.

with the lack of quality / quantity of hurling teams in Antrim these scores are going to be common for the forseeable future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on August 23, 2007, 11:52:25 AM
anybody at the Lamhs game, where is the lone Loughgeil poster

Milltown,

Here I am!! :P

The game last night threw up no surprises, but fair play to Lambs they never quit right to the end. They just couldnt score, won plenty of ball and although the scoreline doesnt reflect it, they actually made a match of it, quite physical.

Our boys played well as a unit with perhaps still a couple of places unconfirmed. We had a couple of goals dis-allowed for reasons only best known by "Eugene" so the difference in the score line could have been greater. Not entirely sure what NAG thinks we should do, drive the ball out over the corner flag instead of taking scores??

Anyway, looking forward to our meeting with St Galls as you Milltown men always manage to put it up to us.

WRT the group stages,I think every one and their dog know that they are not "The finished article", however, we do need to remember that the likes of the Gorts, Glenarriffe, and Lambs, now have at least had a taste of Hurling at this level, whereas in simple Knockouts they may have had only one game. I know that repeated hammerings does no-one any favours but the players involved now know the levels that they need to raise their game to. There is still work to be done.

I do feel that the open draw after the qualifiers is silly as, if and I repeat if, we beat St Galls, then ourselves and dunloy are through before we play each other. Therefore, our group stage match is a nonsense before its played. I think that there is merit in grading the top 2 in each group, so that they have something to play for, ie: no. 1 seed from group 1 vs no. 2 seed from group 2 and vise versa. The problem with that is that we then potentially end up doing exactly what NAG is saying we shouldnt, and try to gou out to stuff everyone into the ground so that if it comes down to scores difference at the end of the group stages, the club with the highest scores ends up top. Dammed if you do, dammed if you dont.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 23, 2007, 11:57:33 AM
QuoteU-21 final on friday against dunloy...hopefully milltown you will do us a favour and cut lumps out of them tonight and hopefully slow a few of them down for Friday night Wink

Skull or max - is it true Sean dowds is out with broken bone in hand?

Our preparation are going well at present, so hopefully we can pull it off

As for 2nite - dunloy will pull away in last 20 to win easy while Shamrocks will slaughter Lamh Dearg who like GNM have nothing to play for!"!

Story of your life NorthAntrim..........

Good lad Balboa - and you say i should be on the Hogan Stand Board!! - you are definitely painting a great picture of yourself.........

Dunloy game def was closer than i thought, then again they wernt overly impressive against us on saturday night in Ulster League with virtually the same team. Althouh they were missing alot of key men, as already pointed out. Lamh Dearg were brutal i heard. chatted with a sham in a shop on way to work this morning and he said they just folded after 15 minutes..... the next 3 games will tell the tale - Cushendall v St Johns, St Johns v Ballycastle, Loughgiel v St galls. If we can win tomorrw night i fancy us to beat St Johns....if we dont - were F****D!!

on a serious note - condoloences to our manager and legend Humpy McKillen - whose brother Billy died on Tuesday Night RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 23, 2007, 12:08:08 PM
Echo North Antrim's condolences to Humpy and his family from all over the county, Ulster and Ireland.

Boys dont get me wrong I wasnt having a go at Loughgiel for stuffing LD, I know they can do nothing else other than beat the teams infront of them. It was more of gripe against the system, whats the point in stuffing these teams when it comes down to Loughgiel and Dunloy going through to an open draw. I think it does the serious teams no good whatsoever these kind of matches.

Means that there is nothing but pride for Loughgiel and Dunloy to play for in their group match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 23, 2007, 12:10:54 PM
Pride - they prob will knock lumps out of other!!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 23, 2007, 12:16:14 PM
North Antrim

Yeah they probably will but it will still be for nothing when the final whistle goes. St Pauls went to play cargin in the league earlier in the year knowing thats who they would meet in the championship later in the year, st. pauls only played like 3 - 4 starters and got a stuffing. Come championship st pauls beat cargin.

Would either of the two teams have the bottle to go for something like that or do they not want to concede any ground to each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 23, 2007, 12:19:46 PM
God knows...id reckon Dunloy wud be a wee bit cuter with that stuff with Shane Elliot involved. Either way 23rd Sept in when the real stuff begins. I have a horrible sneaking feeling for Loughgiel...... ??? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2007, 12:27:20 PM
we done the same against Gorts in te football at least seven starters off the team and we still stuffed a nearly full stregth team.

to be fair we did this for the creegan lads that turned up.

but regarding the group games where they pulled from a hat as who was meeting who during the groups stages, venues dates and times? like dunloy last night we also have to go down to Lougheil and play a game for 6.45.

i'm told that this will be the last time they will go with the group stages so an open draw could be the way next year. dunloy could get cushedall in the first round, just as we got Cargin in the football last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Big Bob on August 24, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
Can anyone tell me who played in what positions in the Rossa v St. Johns Championship game a few weeks ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 24, 2007, 12:34:22 PM
u21 match is off tonight as a mark of respect for Paul McKillen's brother Billy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 24, 2007, 02:34:25 PM
Johnnies any chance against Cushendall at the weekend?

suppose with the system wouldnt matter anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 24, 2007, 02:58:51 PM
What way are cushendall lining out these days have the got K.McKeegan centre half?

Have seen them playing him at midfield for them def less effective there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 10:50:55 AM
st johns stuffed then :'(

what happened to all that training Jonty was doing with them, three nights a week and training for over two hours specialist in helping out training weekends.

good conditions and anybody got a match report?

ballycastle might have a chance now after that poor show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 27, 2007, 10:58:08 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 10:50:55 AM
st johns stuffed then :'(

what happened to all that training Jonty was doing with them, three nights a week and training for over two hours specialist in helping out training weekends.

good conditions and anybody got a match report?

ballycastle might have a chance now after that poor show.

What was the score Milltown, i have said it a few times but i dont know why St Johns are considered "up and coming" or "dark horses" this year, is it on the basis of successful U-14 teams?? We beat Lamh Dhearg handily yesterday in Championship, 4-15 to 0-13, we tried to get them to play for league points but they wouldnt. It was a good enough performance after the debacle against Loughguile, in fairness Lamh's are very poor. Tosh didnt play because of flu so other fellas had to take responsibility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 11:39:19 AM
3-14 to 0-8 Chushendall had 9 scorers and the Johnnies had 3.

thats the most Lamhs have scored in the championship i think. some teams play better when their top man is away.

we have lost a lot of players this year, Johnny Flynn, Andy McLean, Aidso Gallagher, Ciaran O'Grady but the lads that have fitted in, have done well and seem commited.

we are down in Loughgiel this friday night, tough encounter for us lose and we are out. some people have said our game against Dunloy was poor but not too many of the lesser clubs have got that close to Dunloy in the championship in the last few years.

Balboa does everything still go through Winker regarding scores? is DimDim still suspended?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 27, 2007, 11:44:58 AM
He is still their main man, Dim Dim was suspended against us but not sure if he is back. It was hard to tell from our match with them cos all the forwards had a field day but the truth is somewhere inbetween. If you nullify Winker, and perhaps try and rile him  ;) you will be halfway there. They seem to have spread their scorers about a bit more this year but i have a feeling when hardy comes to hardy against Dall or Dunloy they will rely on Winker heavily. Aidso Gallagher played against us earlier in the year, is he just going with the footballers now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
he's played 2 games for us this year, that was one,  he came on as a sub for the Lamhs match but has not committed at all.

we need all our main players to be available, you dont train you dont start, some players like CJ it's harder as he has had a long season. but others have just taken things for granted over the years.

we think we are within 7/8 points of this match and anything else will be a good performance.

if the panel we had committed, then i still believe we would beat some of the top teams.

but as yesterday showed, football is on the march again, i think if our hurlers had have played Creegan yesterday they would have won.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 27, 2007, 01:02:23 PM
Lamh Dearg were really poor yesterday. It beggars belief that they beat the Dall last year. They never looked like winning but even then Oisins still made hard work of it for the first half. The Oisins disciplinary problems continued as another man walked the line yesterday although I didn't think it was a bad strike.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 27, 2007, 01:12:03 PM
Was around town last night, and was very annoyed to see a number of our players on the lash - 5 days before a make or break championshipmatch against St Johns.....and no doubt they will be on it today. It beggars belief imo. Cant understand the mentality of our lads.

Balboa - was there any intensity to your match with lamh dearg. Cushendall seem to be powering past everyone at a frightening pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 02:30:41 PM
all our players were on the lash last night, even the non footballers. they will be grand for friday though fit buggers the lot of them.

drinks bans are daft, you cant impose them properly and whats stopping them from going elsewhere to have a sneaky pint or two.

as long as they miss it 3/4 days before a big game then as long as they are fit and train during the week they should have no problems/ill effects.

who have Cushendall really played? now i know north antrim your going to say they stuffed us (ballycastle) but the group they are in is a soft touch for them. two years in a row they have had that type of group. Loughgiel would prefer to meet them in the semi final i would imagine. Dunloy would fancy themselves if they got to the final as they have not lost too many finals and Cushendall well they are the team to beat.

have not play the Dall this year so cant comment how well they going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 27, 2007, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on August 27, 2007, 01:12:03 PM
Was around town last night, and was very annoyed to see a number of our players on the lash - 5 days before a make or break championshipmatch against St Johns.....and no doubt they will be on it today. It beggars belief imo. Cant understand the mentality of our lads.

Balboa - was there any intensity to your match with lamh dearg. Cushendall seem to be powering past everyone at a frightening pace

Not really, it was pretty low key. Was level at HT but we pulled away fairly well, both teams wanted to win and it got hot and heavy in 2nd half for a while but we were always in control. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 28, 2007, 08:37:22 AM
Watched the Johnnies at the weekend as well, so disappointed. I know and take on board Balboa's point that they were getting big press for doing nothing, but to me naomh eoin are supposed to have four or five county standard players on their team.

Can anyone please tell me for the love of God what Barry McFall is doing on that county team , he played middle of the park and dont think he struck the ball once, AD was lording it. Simon McCory, Colm McFall these are all players expected to be on the county panel next year, Simon McCory is so rough around the edges it is untrue, if they cant live with the middling pace of that game what chance do they stand on the next level?

Cushendall looked impressive enough moved the ball well but still think they are beatable!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 28, 2007, 11:32:27 AM
Got the lamas fair over with nearly.....wer back to training tonight....alot of boys will need to run the gravy out!!

was chating to ones over the fair bout best format for our championship...a few ideas suggested. Personally i think championship should be open draw knockout - wot ever chance any of us have of beating one of the big 3, is in a one off game...

Dunloy played portaferry in a friendly on sunday.....won handy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 28, 2007, 11:51:34 AM
Here Dunloy looked impressive enough in beating Portaferry.

Loughgiel down videoing Cushendall again and have already covered Dunloy twice this year already, a bit of thorough work going on down there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 28, 2007, 11:54:31 AM
were the ports poor? we play them this wed night challenge game. think they are getting ready for their championship. portaferry were strong at the start of the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 28, 2007, 11:58:52 AM
Dont think they are as strong as previous year, heard Dunloy held them pretty much scoreless. Dunloy still missing a couple and should get stronger think they will need to, to beat cushendall.

Portaferry dont have Paul Braniff this year so do struggle for scores.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on August 29, 2007, 08:42:34 AM
Cushendall beat Rossa 4-10 to 0-11 in minor semi final to set up a final with Loughgiel. St Brendans (amalgamation outfit) forfeited the other semi final because they cudnt field ateam due to having 7 players suspended from their 1/4 final win over the Johnnies!!! Supposely a massive row broke out at theend with players, subs and supporters involved......ref Conor Cunning stood back and noted numbers of the players involved.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 29, 2007, 08:47:33 AM
North Antrim

Conor Cunning doesnt referee!

Think it was his brother Colm and dont think there was anything wrong with what he did players cant expect to get involved in a full scale brawl and expect to have no sanctions against them. Disappointing for the St Brendans amalgamation but when they had already won the game they should have held their discipline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2007, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 29, 2007, 08:47:33 AM
North Antrim

Conor Cunning doesnt referee!

Think it was his brother Colm and dont think there was anything wrong with what he did players cant expect to get involved in a full scale brawl and expect to have no sanctions against them. Disappointing for the St Brendans amalgamation but when they had already won the game they should have held their discipline.

If the same thing happened in croke park it would be fair enough, but as it doesn't, I'm sure that the st brendans side feel aggrieved at the size of the punishment. Has anybody heard of a higher number of suspensions from one side arising from one incident? BTW Colm is a good ref and more importantly a good lad to boot, but I do think he's been too officious on this occasion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 29, 2007, 09:04:34 AM
Skull

I am intrigued to know what he should have done in that situation?

Does he write up his report and not mention any of the row? So when reports get back to Antrim CC about the fight and its not in his report what does he say.

I have to say that he did the right thing just because 7 players got suspended shows the severity of the fight and means that it warranted reporting. Also becuase the ref didnt do the same thing in croke park is more a reflection on him than anyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 29, 2007, 09:29:11 AM
St. John's also had a similar number of suspensions - albeit they lost the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on August 29, 2007, 09:31:28 AM
Have to totally agree NAG, not sure of the full details......but if what North Antrim said is right, that he stood back and noted numbers then i believe he got it right.

This sort of behaviour cant be tolerated, especially at Underage level. if 7 or more needed to be suspended then so be it.  people want to fight then they should suffer the consequences.

what i do think though is that most of the temper leading to these type of fights is mainly coming from the supporters. nearly every match you watch, from under 12 to senior the ref gets dogs abuse from supporters of at least one side if not both thinking their team is being hard done by, thus leading to players thinking the same and getting frustrated

referees are far from good in this county but until we realise that this wont get any better until they are tolerated, when this happens maybe more x-players or young people will take up refereeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 09:41:10 AM
yeah thinking of getting into refereeing myself, but have to be carefull what you say about refereeing on this site now as the adminn seem to be cracking down if you say the wrong thing.

whats is the offical word on the sending offs at Cusendall were they straight reds? or two yellows for both players. Hearing mc faul will be available for the Ballycastle game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 29, 2007, 09:52:05 AM
I saw with my own eyes that it was two straight reds!

Ballycastle will be cross about this one, cant believe the ref has come under pressure to change his report.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 09:55:18 AM
knowing the referee well, if he showed two reds he'll stick with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 29, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
North Antrim my old squire, when is the U-21 final on ? I heard talk it was on this Fri but obviously that is horses*it as youse are playing the Johhnies......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 11:55:23 AM
what sort of team are you bringing down to the sevens this Saturday Balboa? will tosh be going and are you taking it seriously?

we played the junior one for years and never took it serious, out first and first to the food and bar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 29, 2007, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 11:55:23 AM
what sort of team are you bringing down to the sevens this Saturday Balboa? will tosh be going and are you taking it seriously?

we played the junior one for years and never took it serious, out first and first to the food and bar

It wont be great, Tosh isnt going, he is fed up to the balls with hurling this year and is coming down with us later that morning. We are in with a team from Galway,Waterford and forget where else. We will get a few tankings i would say but its only a bit of craic.  I would say the only thing being taken seriously will be the boozing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2007, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 29, 2007, 09:04:34 AM
Skull

I am intrigued to know what he should have done in that situation?

Does he write up his report and not mention any of the row? So when reports get back to Antrim CC about the fight and its not in his report what does he say.

I have to say that he did the right thing just because 7 players got suspended shows the severity of the fight and means that it warranted reporting. Also becuase the ref didnt do the same thing in croke park is more a reflection on him than anyone else.

Well he could have took a look at it and seen that seeing that the match was over and that as it was a St Johns player who started the melee (a headbutt I believe) and that seeing as they had been knock out of the championship they had no disincentive to keep their discipline then it would be unfair to St Brendans to be as severly punished for reacting to thuggish behaviour (any thug is fair game in my book and deserves whats coming to him). It would have been great for hurling in Antrim as well as a great opportunity for the likes of St Brendans to play i the next round against their biggest rivals and that has been taken away from them because a wee sc**bag thought he would start fight. That wee sc**bag will be grinning like f**k today as he has lost nothing in all of this.

Look at the end of the day I half agree with you but seeing that things can be brushed over in much higher profile instances then I am inclined to believe that St Brendans have been hard done by (7 is a seriously high number). BTW I don't know why you assume that because there were 7 suspensions on both sides it somehow shows us the severity of the incident?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 29, 2007, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 29, 2007, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 29, 2007, 09:04:34 AM
Skull

I am intrigued to know what he should have done in that situation?

Does he write up his report and not mention any of the row? So when reports get back to Antrim CC about the fight and its not in his report what does he say.

I have to say that he did the right thing just because 7 players got suspended shows the severity of the fight and means that it warranted reporting. Also becuase the ref didnt do the same thing in croke park is more a reflection on him than anyone else.

Well he could have took a look at it and seen that seeing that the match was over and that as it was a St Johns player who started the melee (a headbutt I believe) and that seeing as they had been knock out of the championship they had no disincentive to keep their discipline then it would be unfair to St Brendans to be as severly punished for reacting to thuggish behaviour (any thug is fair game in my book and deserves whats coming to him). It would have been great for hurling in Antrim as well as a great opportunity for the likes of St Brendans to play i the next round against their biggest rivals and that has been taken away from them because a wee sc**bag thought he would start fight. That wee sc**bag will be grinning like f**k today as he has lost nothing in all of this.

Look at the end of the day I half agree with you but seeing that things can be brushed over in much higher profile instances then I am inclined to believe that St Brendans have been hard done by (7 is a seriously high number). BTW I don't know why you assume that because there were 7 suspensions on both sides it somehow shows us the severity of the incident?


Skull, i think this is a very fair assessment.  there is no doubt who started it and when you are dealing with minors, its very hard to sit back and watch a guy put the head insomeone and proceed to lay into him.  yes, in an ideal world the St Brendans lads would not have got involved but...

Its the total lack of consistency thats the problem here.  how many scuffles have we seem where maybe 10 or 15 guys get involved and all you get at the end is 1 or 2 red or yellow cards.  I think the St brendans lads can rightly feel hard done by and hopefully the CCC will allow them to play the match.  This must be a first in the entire history of the GAA!  '


'what should the ref have done?'  - he should have used a bit of common sense....easy...

The upshot of this is that the St Johns guys get a suspension which means nothing while the St Bendans lads miss probably the biggest match in their carerr to date.  Hardly justice in my book.

to say 7 boys reflects the severity of it is nonsense. it really was handbags bar the first strike and the adults who were present brough it under control quickly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 30, 2007, 09:16:42 AM
Well after seeing a few of the games over the last while time for championship predictions?

reasons behind your choices as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2007, 10:38:04 AM
So can we assume from your silence on the subject that I've convinced you about the St Brendans suspensions?  :P

My missus does that as well, so I'm well used to it (but we both know I'm right  ;))

Re: The championship: If we had 5-6 strong clubs then people could make some decent reasoned predictions at this stage, but considering that there only 3 (after the johnnies crumbled against the dall.....which I didn't expect) teams with a chance who have not played each other then I would say its totally up in the air until the semi final draw is made.
St Johnnies, Ballycastle, St Galls, Glenariff, Rossa all need to work towards a 3-5 year plan rather than the (from what I can see) try and go for it year after year and alway end up failing (i.e failing being hammered in the championship...ok st gall will battle well but commitment levels vary) because they've set their sights too far and everyone knows that they will not achieve those targets. Ballycastle have been the biggest disappointment from my perspective this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 30, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
Skull

Sorry to have not replied to the previous post but I didnt want to be boring the rest of the guys on here with another post on the subject.

But here goes.....

Would people have the same sympathy for bigger clubs such as Rossa, Loughgiel, Cushendall and Dunloy if they had recieved 7 suspensions arising from a row, I will answer that for you no they wouldnt. I think the fact that this is St Brendans is clouding your judgement, yes I am annoyed that they arent able to field because of it. However these are 17-18 yr old men we have all been in that kind of situation some more than others when you have to look at the big picture and say I want to play in a semi final and some wee toe rag from the Falls Rd isnt going to stop me.

I think yes we could have swept this under the carpet but where is the consistency in that?

Until we get a system that is completely consistent then these are the kind of issues that will cause arguements and discussions. But the fact that these guys warranted to be in the referee's report means they did something wrong and should have to pay the consequences.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2007, 11:18:25 AM
I don't think as big a sanction would have happened to the bigger clubs NAG. More representation would have been made to reduce the sanction imposed (it's called politics). The fact that st brendans are a smaller club with fewer contacts at county level has meant that the full force of the rule book has been applied in this case and not in others (both at club and county level)

And in reality sweeping things under the carpet (or better to say downplaying the seriousness of certain offences) is more consistent with GAA disciplinary sanctions. To think otherwise is very naive.

I don't know why you keep stating that because it was in the referees report somehow made it more serious that other incidents which have not made it into another's referees report.
I think your being to black and white about this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 30, 2007, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 30, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
Skull

Sorry to have not replied to the previous post but I didnt want to be boring the rest of the guys on here with another post on the subject.

But here goes.....

Would people have the same sympathy for bigger clubs such as Rossa, Loughgiel, Cushendall and Dunloy if they had recieved 7 suspensions arising from a row, I will answer that for you no they wouldnt. I think the fact that this is St Brendans is clouding your judgement, yes I am annoyed that they arent able to field because of it. However these are 17-18 yr old men we have all been in that kind of situation some more than others when you have to look at the big picture and say I want to play in a semi final and some wee toe rag from the Falls Rd isnt going to stop me.

I think yes we could have swept this under the carpet but where is the consistency in that?

Until we get a system that is completely consistent then these are the kind of issues that will cause arguements and discussions. But the fact that these guys warranted to be in the referee's report means they did something wrong and should have to pay the consequences.



NAG, Its the complete lack of consistency that stinks about this whole thing.  The action is completely unprecedented.


As said before, the referee (and his umpires) just needed to apply a bit common sense. ..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 30, 2007, 11:34:06 AM
Lads

We are all kind of arguing the same point. The poiint I am making is that just because they had 7 players suspended doesnt mean we should feel sorry for them.

Skull - I am being black and white about this but what im trying to say is that it is time that the GAA went black and white these slimey grey areas have bugged us all for too long.

Its time to say do the crime do the time. None of the constant appealing. The laws are there to be enforced so enforce them

Yes use common sense when possible but this still shouldnt go into these grey areas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
as a club we gave taken some decsions this year and got on with it, no appealing.

all clubs should be able to just get on with it, and maybe if clubs took a look at themselves and how they go about their team talks, tactics at training then maybe we would have fewer situations.

if these were to happen on the street, they would be in the news every day with police involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
This black and whiteness gives every incentive to a losing championship team to start these free for alls at the end and try and get the winning teams players suspended for the next match does it not? Both teams get hit but it only matters to one of them. What good will that do?

IMO the aggressors should have the book thown at them and the club fined but the other side penalised to a much lesser degree. That way both teams learn the right lessons
i.e
The aggressors learn that the full weight of the rule book will be applied and that the club feels the pinch of having to pay out for their sides poor discipline
The other side learn that reacting to these incidents in this way is not condoned and will be penalised (but that it is accepted that extreme provocation made it difficult to sit back and watch such thuggery happen therefore a lesser penalty imposed).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 30, 2007, 12:02:55 PM
As John Mullane said "If you do the crime, do the time".......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 31, 2007, 09:23:14 AM
What are the chances tonight in the second place play off?

Can ballycastle put it up to St Johns in Corrigan, any word of whether McFall got the red card changed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2007, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 31, 2007, 09:23:14 AM
What are the chances tonight in the second place play off?

Can ballycastle put it up to St Johns in Corrigan, any word of whether McFall got the red card changed?

certainly think ballycastle can put it up to them, i'd say home advantage may just sway it the way of st johns but the town will give it a right lash.

if ballycastle do win, it would be four north antrim teams in the semi finals, been can't remember that happening in a while.  if all goes as expected in other group as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 12:15:13 PM
give us a chance max!!!!!

we go down tonight hoping we can turn them over, not going to happen usless we click, some of our better players have went missing in the last few games and if they turn it on tonight it should be close.

looking to keep it tight and see what happens.

so has everybody got their tickets for the Final this Sunday? hopefully Limerick wont fall apart at the start and make this final a nail biter, for me the last few finals although good have never been like previous rounds, i think Limerick will play a blood and thunder game and Kilkenny i'm sure will step up to that and should make it tight for 60 mins

after that the Cats should pull away and win by 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 31, 2007, 12:37:33 PM
Tonights match at Corrigan should be a tight one,Cushendall were lucky that we got both of the teams at home, could have been alot tighter if we had both teams away....especially the johnnies, however both teams were very bad.  McFall( who was unlucky to be sent off) will be a big miss as he was looking sharp on Sunday with the limited ball he got. This match could go anyway...expect a red card or two.

Cushendall are away to Rossa tonight, we're relieved we have already qualified as we have a few missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 31, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
Anybody know how the under 14s/15s/16s county hurlers got on in their various games last weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 01:27:53 PM
you should beat Roosa though shouldn't you?

would be unfair on the other teams that played you at full strength.

last year Loughgiel were already through but still came to our pitch and beat us well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 12:15:13 PM
give us a chance max!!!!!

we go down tonight hoping we can turn them over, not going to happen usless we click, some of our better players have went missing in the last few games and if they turn it on tonight it should be close.

looking to keep it tight and see what happens.

so has everybody got their tickets for the Final this Sunday? hopefully Limerick wont fall apart at the start and make this final a nail biter, for me the last few finals although good have never been like previous rounds, i think Limerick will play a blood and thunder game and Kilkenny i'm sure will step up to that and should make it tight for 60 mins
after that the Cats should pull away and win by 6

Milltown.....Tickets/accomodation have been secured. Not sure we will be welcome back to Jurys after this weekend, Eastwoods are giving even money on Kilkenny -6 pts. I think they will win by more than that. Looking forward to minor match, they reckon this Tipp team are hot s*it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on August 31, 2007, 02:00:07 PM
I'd imagine we'd still hope to beat Rossa, though I'm not really sure wot they are like. We'll play as strong a team as possible, Aaron Graffin away on holidays, Ohdran Scullion injured(he came off early on Sunday) & one of the players that would normally come in, Michael Delargy is suspended after the mcfall incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 31, 2007, 02:13:23 PM
Rossa are well off the pace this year and heads are down. Ruairi Ogs will win handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 02:19:21 PM
Quinns for one or two then in through the policed area hit one or two more bars, watch first half of minor game on tv then in for half time of teh minor game.

what price Tipp? always do a double won it last year for the first in a long time. lost docket lost out on 50 quid
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on August 31, 2007, 02:22:52 PM
definitely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2007, 02:48:53 PM
Sorry milltown, thats why i went back in and edited it.

you need to beat the shamrocks and hope we beat them, if you beat them tonight it will certainly add a bit of spice to our match.  might nip over and watch it,  what time will it really start, bearing in mind its a very overcast day here i think if it doesn't start before 7 it will be very dark when it finishes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 03:13:09 PM
games for 6.30 start we have no mission of getting out at that time we will not be running out onto the pitch not ready or properly warmed up.

rain has started here already so it will start at 6.45 maybe but we wont be rushed. the motorway has a two lanes closed up to glengormley

we will give it a lash are young lads have been playing against this team for years and have no fears, they are a quality team and any time we got close they were always able to find another gear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 02:19:21 PM
Quinns for one or two then in through the policed area hit one or two more bars, watch first half of minor game on tv then in for half time of teh minor game.

what price Tipp? always do a double won it last year for the first in a long time. lost docket lost out on 50 quid

Tipp are 4/6 Cork 6/4 with Paddy Power, was thinking of doing a double too. Tipp didnt beat them that easily in Munster Championship though, Minor matches are notoriously hard to call though. Did you not got to the bookies where you did the bet and write it out again and they could compare the handwriting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2007, 03:52:53 PM
i was hammered, my handwriting would have been hard to repeat, it was the bookies beside Quinns, i'll ask this sunday sure :D

so i had the docket when i went back to the club but i lost it when i ended up in Thompsons Garage later on that night.

on a school night too bad impression the next day on the youngsters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 08:47:32 PM
Ballycastle beat Johnnies by 4 i think in the end, once more St Johns flatter to deceive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 31, 2007, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 08:47:32 PM
Ballycastle beat Johnnies by 4 i think in the end, once more St Johns flatter to deceive.

Good result for Ballycastle especially in the City. They have some good young players but not enough to win the whole thing. Is the draw for the semi-finals completly open ie can Ballycastle face c'Dall again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 31, 2007, 09:36:02 PM
I see Rossa beat the Dall.  Does that mean that Rossa still have a chance and the match B'castle is now a quarter final!?

bit of a surprise. bit of a repeat of last year when they lost to L Dearg.

Where/When do these two play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2007, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 31, 2007, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 08:47:32 PM
Ballycastle beat Johnnies by 4 i think in the end, once more St Johns flatter to deceive.
For the simple reason that they are not a good team. I posted about a month back that I was surprised that they were considered any sort of threat. They were never going to do anything and I don't know where the hype came from.

I believe that was me  :-[. I genuniely thought that they could step up this year after Dunloy played them in an ulster league match earlier this year but they have blown it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on August 31, 2007, 10:41:59 PM
I have went on record a few times before questioning the reason or logic people were using in calling them "up and coming" and "dark horses". I dont know whether it was because they got to semis last year, but in doing so they drew with Ballycastle, got tanked by the Dall & beat us. Not exactly electrifying form, i think they scored about 0-9 or 0-10 tonight (the scoreboard wasnt working, Corrigan is still a throwback to the 70's). Cossie got a straight red near the end, it seemed a bit of a needless sending off but Ray Matthews likes a bit of attention.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2007, 11:08:31 PM
I bow to your greater knowledge rocky  :-\.  ;) ;) Rossa must be fancying their chances now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 01, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
6 each at half time in poor enough conditions for both teams, Loughgiel came out and scored the next 3 scores and we lost a player (2 yellows, first was a bit soft second was a yellow) game was over and they scored 5 frees to run out 8 point winners.

we knew they would come out strong at the start of second half but we lost our heads a bit and give awat tap overs for Winker who never missed, scored ten frees in all.

at half time we thought we would never get a better chance......

Owen Eillott refereed the game and bar the soft yellow did a great job, good referee considering the conditions and the game flowed well.

right thats me off to watch the big boys train down later and i'll stay off the booze ;) ;) ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 03, 2007, 09:15:42 AM
Match Reports from the games friday night?

Corrigan and Shaws Rd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 03, 2007, 10:04:10 AM
Milltown i did that double,(Tipp minors 4/6 & Kilkenny -6 pts even money) and didnt lose my docket !!  ;D  ;D Eddie Brennans point at the end of injury time won it for me ! £20 double will pay about £70.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2007, 01:45:07 PM
pays for you ticket and a couple of scoops.

feeling rough today, stayed at the Harcourt Hotel, great bar and a night club downstairs, good spot, 79 euro for a twin room, good value.

off drink for a week hands shaking here.

balboa, when do we play our game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2007, 02:35:48 PM
No antrim chat today at all

anyone read paddy heaney's views in the irish news today,  interesting enough article especially his comments on the dual players.  tend to agree with him that dual players, even at club level are now heading to extinction.

i remember not 8 years ago our club playing cargin in the SFC semi final and had 13 player who lined out in the SHC final that same year,  now we'll prob only have between 1-4 players start on both teams.

The demands of playing both have lessened the numbers doing so, is it now time for the fixtures committee's to allocate fixtures idependantly of each other.  it would be interesting to see the stats on the actual number of dual players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 04, 2007, 02:50:37 PM
Yeah think it is increasingly difficult for the dual players, I would say that part of that 13 players Max were also on the county hurling panel at the time if I recall correctly.

How are Dunloy shaping up for the weekend clash with the sham's?
Could be an important game to tell us where both teams are really at, at this stage of the championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2007, 02:57:39 PM
using CJ as an example, the demands are a lot, but to be fair he mostly just plays for the club and trained with the county.

killing the dual club i hope wont happen as i really dont want to be affilated with another club for hurling purposes only. i grew up playing for both teams and still do. a lesser extent in the football but still play every week with ones i grew up with. hurling always first choice but all dual players have a preference to one or the other.

clubs and players can make it work if they want, Paddy Heaney has no love of hurling and said so at a talk-back evening at our club last year. so he can keep his thoughts to himself.

we even have certain members, past dual players wanting the club to drop into div, 2 in the hurling, crazy

like yourself Max, 2 years ago we won a football final and ran Loughgiel to 4 points in a hurling semi final,

that year our lads went to an all  Ireland football final so it can be done, rafferty said that the competitive games that the dual players had that year sharpened them up. so it can be done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2007, 03:17:36 PM
Yeah NAG, the most of the players where on the county team at that time too, i think we'd 11 or 12 on county squad at that stage

Milltown on your point about the hurling sharpening up your footballers, now maybe this is my hurling tinted glasses on here, but i think because of the finer skills involved in hurling, and the time required to hone these, that for a hurler to also play football takes more away from the hurler than if a footballer plays hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2007, 03:29:34 PM
well i thought that those lads that played both were the better footballers during that run.

but your right regarding the skills a hurler needs, during all our matches this year, you could spot all the boys who did not put the effort in at training or missed training.

shame really as there are real committed mentors in our club who love the sport so much and can do nothing to stop the rot which has begun. the management will be stepping down this year after 3 years in charge. it's been like a rollercoaster.

hopefully the new man in charge can bring us a step closer. but it's all down to the players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 05, 2007, 11:26:29 AM
I think it could be fairly siad that Hurlers benefit from football in a fitness way and as long as they are getting the appropriate skills training as well then it would be to their advantage.

Footballers on the other IMO opinion would benefit from playing hurling because it is a smarter more thoughful game and quicker as well, which would sharpen their minds and their bodies.

Anyway we all know that hurling is a far superior game and that footballers are lucky to be allowed to play it  ;)

Hows the weekends game shaping up? Can the town do it?

Can see Dunloy taking loughgiel, dunloy seem to have recaptured that illusive hunger again which could mean trouble.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 05, 2007, 12:47:47 PM
would love you too be right nag, we'll see on sunday

on the other game, is it a straight quarter final.  is the draw for the semi's being done after that match like last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 05, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 05, 2007, 12:47:47 PM
is the draw for the semi's being done after that match like last year

would only make sense if it was....................so more than likely not then  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 05, 2007, 02:17:18 PM
Predictions for the draw.

Cushendall vs Dunloy as per usual

Loughgiel vs Ballycastle, im giving the town this one home advantage should count!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 05, 2007, 02:36:42 PM
rossa to win by five,

ballycastle are poor, training 2/3 times a week and only beat us by a point at their pitch, that was after 9 of our players played both reserve and senior. and we came strong in the second half!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 05, 2007, 03:05:47 PM
Dunloy to beat Loughgiel

i think Rossa will win against Ballycastle.

Ballycastle IMO are a poor team and Rossa winning against Cushendall will give them a bit of confidence.

Draw:-

Dunloy - Rossa

Shams - Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 05, 2007, 03:13:12 PM
the only thing pedictable abot Ballycastle is there unpredictability. on there day they could rattle any team, but on another day they can be dreadful.  it was a decent performance to beat the johnnies in Corrigan on a wet friday evening.

I did think home advantage would sway it there way on sunday but it will be very difficult if Cossie is suspended, he seems to be there consistent score getter and would be a huge hole in the forwards.  

I'll go for Rossa by a goal, keep the city interested in this years championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 05, 2007, 03:14:44 PM
the draw just has to throw up

Dunloy v Loughgiel
Cushendall v Rossa/Ballycastle

when you allow such a daft situation to be possible then it just has to happen. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 05, 2007, 03:22:06 PM
your prob right max

i hope it does throw up your prediction....................only for the reason that it would highlight how stupid an open draw is at the semi stage. County got it lucky last year when the draw worked out 1st v 2nd in other group.

if Cushendall had beat Rossa, this weekends games would have been a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 05, 2007, 03:29:38 PM
yeah we play Glenariffe this Sunday and although when the whistle goes both teams will go at it, it will just miss that edge though,  good luck to all teams this Sunday

hope the dunloy game is played at some pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 05, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
I would say that the Dunloy game will have all the edge of championship hurling.

If the town get their act together they have another big game in them, if they can get the ball into Pinkie he should get enough scores.

Its a stupid system with these games meaning nothing but who wants to give an edge to their possible semi final opponents at this stage.

Did i see the loughgiel team right, Big swevy at full forward, can someone tell me how that has happened?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2007, 10:36:16 PM
Why is everyone here bitching about the system. Its the lack of teams at the right level to be competitive in the system (or any other format) that is the real problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 08:52:21 AM
because we have a meaningless game against Glenariff this Sunday,

if we could get a quarter final out of this game then yes it would mean a chance of getting a semi final spot, but it's only the top two who go through, you may catch a top 3 team once in championship but not twice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2007, 11:16:41 AM
ah hem....I repeat

Its the lack of teams at the right level to be competitive in the system (or any other format) that is the real problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 06, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2007, 11:16:41 AM
ah hem....I repeat

Its the lack of teams at the right level to be competitive in the system (or any other format) that is the real problem.


Would you say this is a recent phenomenon Skull? 3 winners of Senior Championship in 18 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on September 06, 2007, 12:34:50 PM
Is it true Gavin Bell broke his leg playing football?? Hopefully not, but best wishes if he has.

I think Rossa can beat B/castle if they play with the same fight & determination as they did against us & get the ball into Rocky who ran riot against us in the corner but Bell if missing is a big miss....however Ballycastle are well capable of winning this..hard to call

It's stupid that it is an open draw, should be 1st v 2nd in other group....but thats Antrim for you ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 06, 2007, 01:13:19 PM
Sorry to hear Bell has a broken leg if indeed its true, fine player and very important to Ballycastle,  may just tip the scales back in favour of the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 06, 2007, 02:20:35 PM
Bell's injury is unfortunate for him and Rossa, seemed like they had discovered some of the fight of old.

However think this is balanced out with the town missing Cossy, I know he can be woeful but is an important score getter for them which are few and far between in that part of the world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2007, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 06, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
Would you say this is a recent phenomenon Skull? 3 winners of Senior Championship in 18 years.

Of course its now a recent phenomenon as you have pointed out. Looking forward it is important that some strategy is put in place at county board level with buy in with the clubs to strive to improve standards in every club over the next 10 years. getting hammered every year without having a long term plan teaches the middle order nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 07, 2007, 09:47:54 AM
I have little confidence in our lads this year but sure we'll head down the country and give it lash anyway. Ballycastle will be strong favorites playing at home butt you never know. Sure we might just catch them on the hop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 09:53:32 AM
Milltown, what kind of shape are youse in for the big one on Sunday, winner takes all....... The buzz around Glenariffe is unlike anything i have seen, except maybe for the time the Mariners stayed open all night on New Years Eve 1999......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 07, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
I can see that being a nasty enough affair down in Glenariffe with nothing to lose for the glens men and with their track record over the past few years that doesnt bode well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 07, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
I can see that being a nasty enough affair down in Glenariffe with nothing to lose for the glens men and with their track record over the past few years that doesnt bode well.

Aye Antrim Hospital are sending an air ambulance down and a fleet of ambulances.  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 07, 2007, 04:33:21 PM
Don't bring the children to that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 11:01:05 PM
Minor Championship Final

Loughguile 2-15 Cushendall 2-15

Loughguile got a goal deep in injurytime to level it up, excellent game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on September 07, 2007, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 09:53:32 AM
Milltown, what kind of shape are youse in for the big one on Sunday, winner takes all....... The buzz around Glenariffe is unlike anything i have seen, except maybe for the time the Mariners stayed open all night on New Years Eve 1999......

does it ever close?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 08, 2007, 11:53:49 AM
Quote from: Square Ball on September 07, 2007, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 09:53:32 AM
Milltown, what kind of shape are youse in for the big one on Sunday, winner takes all....... The buzz around Glenariffe is unlike anything i have seen, except maybe for the time the Mariners stayed open all night on New Years Eve 1999......

does it ever close?

The front door closes at 11pm.........The licensing laws are very strict in Waterfoot, i remember going to work one Monday morning at 7.30am and was passing the Saffron Bar, 3 or 4 fellas from Loughguile were being let out the front door in a "tired & emotional" state.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on September 08, 2007, 08:27:46 PM
I have been tired and emotional myself in those two establishments myself a fair few times, well mostly the Mariners even remember McNaughtons, well never drank in it, but was in it with a few uncles and all that as a youngster. Mind you the last time I was down in that neck of the woods was for a funeral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 08, 2007, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on September 08, 2007, 08:27:46 PM
I have been tired and emotional myself in those two establishments myself a fair few times, well mostly the Mariners even remember McNaughtons, well never drank in it, but was in it with a few uncles and all that as a youngster. Mind you the last time I was down in that neck of the woods was for a funeral.

Mc Naughtons was before my drinking days,was good for a game of snooker though. Mariners has went downhill lately there is usually a bit more life in the Saffron even though its all relative ! Since i live in Belfast now i dont get the chance to frequent them as much as i used to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 09, 2007, 07:00:28 PM
Ballycsastle 2-13 Rossa 1-7, poor enough game. Draws made after match C'Dall V Dunloy Ballycastle V Loughgiel. Junior semis Armoy V Cloughmills and Rasharkin V Ballymena. Is that the third year in a row C'Dall and Dunloy have met in the semis? On tonights performance I cannot see Ballycastle having the pace to live with Loughgiel. Having said that I have no idea how Rossa beat C'Dall, Rossa were very poor with only their number 15 making any impression.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 09, 2007, 08:45:11 PM
After todays game i would have to say St Galls are a dual club in name only, their footballers were away playing Ballinderry in a friendly which left them with the bare bones for today. People could say todays match was meaningless but it is still championship.   Anyway that is the phoney war over, when are the semis due to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 10, 2007, 08:36:45 AM
yeah all our dual players went to the football friendly and left us with a team that played the day before in a reserve Championship match against Portaferry, a lot of tired legs on top of the drink i feel like rocky at the minute after thoses two games, body is not as young as it thinks >:(

management was stepping down this year anyhow, but the dealings going on in our club regarding football is crazy

we had 2 16 year olds on yesterday (they played well) 15 players turned up for a home championship match some, players in our club constantly chasing football medals, even if they are just warming the bench with no chance of getting a run out 8 of our firsts were playing football yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 10, 2007, 10:45:39 AM
Why was Aidso Gallagher not away with the footballers Milltown? I only recognised about 6 of your team from earlier in the season when we played youse, we were struggling for numbers yesterday too, a few suspended, a few on holidays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 10, 2007, 10:54:47 AM
aidso was suspended from playing football but not hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 10, 2007, 11:03:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 10, 2007, 10:54:47 AM
aidso was suspended from playing football but not hurling

I thought if you are suspended it counts for both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 10, 2007, 11:13:36 AM
Draws made for SHC and JHC

Dunloy v Cushendall
Loughgiel v Ballycastle

Armoy v Cloughmills
Ballymena v Rasharkin

anyone know when and where these matches are.

Just for a change the shamrocks get the handier draw, certainly cushendall will be a though proposition but we always knew we'd have to beat them if we are serious about a championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 10, 2007, 11:38:20 AM
no all change this year, sure he can play county football and club hurling depending on the type of suspension he got for the football game against Lamhs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
The games are on the weekend of the 23rd of September.

Not sure about venues and I would doubt it'll be a double header unless they go to casement as the only grounds suitable in north antrim all have teams involved in it.

I would guess cushendall - dunloy will again be in ballycastle and the other one is hard to know. Maybe it could be in dunloy or maybe they might consider bringing it to glenravel but would doubt it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: topgun on September 10, 2007, 11:49:10 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on September 10, 2007, 12:19:42 PM
Cushendall v Dunloy will be in Ballycastle & the other semi will be in Dunloy. Tough draw for us after Dunloys good win yesterday. But to win it you have to beat the best like Max said

Any word on the minor replay?? would like to make it but work commitments might stop it. Made it to the final on friday night. It was one of the best matches have seen in a while & the best at minor level. Unfortunately the shamrocks got a goal at the end to break our hearts but where did he 4 & 1/2 minutes from I dont know. Plus one of their players getting 2 yellow cards & not getting sent off. But our boys will be ready again the next day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 10, 2007, 08:29:57 PM
I heard at the match last night that cossie dallas of Ballycastle got a month so he should be back for the 23rd. By the look of them yesterday they will need all the help they can get. I reckon both matches should be a double header in armoy,lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 10, 2007, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 10, 2007, 08:29:57 PM
I heard at the match last night that cossie dallas of Ballycastle got a month so he should be back for the 23rd. By the look of them yesterday they will need all the help they can get. I reckon both matches should be a double header in armoy,lol.

I doubt he will, he was sent off (harshly) against St Johns on 31st August so if semis are on 23rd Spetember he will miss it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 11, 2007, 09:45:28 AM
Heard the matches were,

Ballycastle vs Loughgiel - Dunloy Saturday 22nd

Cushendall vs Dunloy - Loughgiel Sunday 23rd

Thought the Dunloy loughgiel match was entertaining enough for a dead rubber, noone can tell me that loughgiel werent going full tilt if you had seen their managers in the first half loosing the plot big time.
Think it could be a physcological blow for either Dunloy or Cushendall later in the campaign, to me Loughgiel still looked very very fragile.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 11, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
maybe more to do with the fact they were terrible, first half particularly!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 12, 2007, 11:32:56 AM
What the opinions on the semi-finals now?

Cant see ballycastle being any good to loughgiel.

Cushendall Dunloy hard to call I would say, cushendall go in favourites of course and are still playing well enough to deserve that. But maybe the lack of competitive games may catch up with them. Dunloy played quite few good games lately but still havent been really pushed so this sets it up for an entralling encounter.

Dont think I would be putting my house on it either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 12, 2007, 01:58:20 PM
Although on the day anything can happen, based on what Ive saw from each team so far in the championship I'd say a Loughgiel v Cushendall final.

See the minor replay has been set for Saturday @ 4pm in Ballycastle. something to look forward to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 1912 on September 12, 2007, 11:50:31 PM
I think it will be dunloy v c'dall.  the castle are up against it but you never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2007, 09:54:57 AM
U21 final result:
Ballycastle    4-13   1-6   Dunloy    Loughguile

Anyone happen to make this game? Any reports?

I'd have thought Dunloy would be favourites for this but that is a fair beating they took. A good boost for Ballycastle going into the championship semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 13, 2007, 10:05:09 AM
I don't know if Dunloy were ever favourites, there was always very little between these teams whenever they did meet through out the ages.

Ballycastle were much the superior team yesterday, Dunloy just didn't do themselves any justice and could not seem to win any of there own ball.  The town were very strong up the middle and very good under dropping balls. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 13, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Yes I was at the game.

Ballycastle well worth their victory. They had some great performers all round the pitch, Dunloy were very poor. Neill McAuley won the first two or three balls off P. Shileds and the next thing he had a phantom injury and had to be moved.

Ballycastle strong young team should do well, be interested to know if they held any of these guys back from their team against Rossa and would any of them now be figuring against loughgiel?

Also how did Antrim CC allow 'speedy' to referee this he hasnt got a clue and more or less ruined a good clean game of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2007, 10:35:12 AM
speedy is not the worst.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 13, 2007, 10:37:25 AM
Milltown,

If he isnt the worst then pray tell me who is?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 13, 2007, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 13, 2007, 10:35:12 AM
speedy is not the worst.   :P

I believe Milltown is just defending a fellow clubman which is fair enough, but i think he is a poor ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2007, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Neill McAuley won the first two or three balls off P. Shileds and the next thing he had a phantom injury and had to be moved.
>:(
Would there be any chance that he actually did hurt his ankle NAG especially when you consider the fact that Shorty has never shied away from any physical contest in any match that I have seen over all the years watching him hurl, so piss away off with your cheap shots.

Dunloy were beaten hands down by a much stronger and more mobile it has to be said Ballycastle side. I was very impressed with them. I never thought that we were going to win the game but the manner of the defeat was shocking, but you get out what you put in and the sad fact is that as a panel, too many didn't show enough if any commitment preparing for U21 hurling this year and we relied to heavily on individuals rather than the team as a whole to get anything from the game. A lot of boys still U21 for a year or two yet, so hopefully we will remember the pain of last night defeat and make a decent go at it next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2007, 11:32:04 AM
was his performance going to change the score line of 4-13 to 1-6 ?

seems Ballycastle won this game handy enough.

was it a stop start game or did he try and let it flow? careful what you say here about referees i got a talking to by our admin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 13, 2007, 12:02:50 PM
Milltown

I am being careful as to what I say about referee's and I hate having to criticise someone who I know gives up their free time to do it, but it  has to be said he was so poor last night. The game never got any chance to flow he pulled the play back on numerous occasions for non fouls and then let dangerous fouls go unpunished. He is poor.

Skull

It wasnt a cheap shot its an observation having watched him over a few years, when the going gets tough he isnt to be found. He is a lovely nice hurler, but not one that will win you a championship. There I said it. He is one of these hurlers we all love to watch on the ball dont get me wrong he is classy but that class is matched with bottle which is ok the boy cant have everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 13, 2007, 12:35:22 PM
NAG thats nonsense, Shorty is a terrific player and i've never seen him shirk a challenge,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2007, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 12:02:50 PM
Skull

It wasnt a cheap shot its an observation having watched him over a few years, when the going gets tough he isnt to be found. He is a lovely nice hurler, but not one that will win you a championship. There I said it. He is one of these hurlers we all love to watch on the ball dont get me wrong he is classy but that class is matched with bottle which is ok the boy cant have everything.

A load of balls. I couldn't name you too many who would be more committed in a challenge. Considering the fact that he's a lad of only 18 and probably only 11 stone, that takes real guts. The physically bigger player has got strength to carry him into tackles and know that he will come out of them unscathed, Shorty has not got this luxury but still is fully committed so I really don't have a clue wtf you are talking about? Perhaps you could tell me about these games you've watched over the years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
It's also hugely harsh.

The guy is what - 18 years old?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 13, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
Lads lads

This an observation I have had having watched him progress from u14 development squads etc and Im not talking through my hat. If you look at him he is very lightly made up which is not his fault, I have yet to see him make a physical tackle ie a shoulder. Now if you look to my earlier post you will see that I said he is class yes but he needs other players around him to break the ball and contest for and he will clean up the breaks and hurt the opposition. That is his game.

Now in comparison if we are talking age wise, he is a peer of Neill McAuley, Neill McManus, Hippy Donnelly, all guys who are big physical men who can compete at senior level physically.

I am not saying that he isnt a good hurler just that he went missing and has done in the past which is natural because he is young. Sorry if I hit a nerve but sometimes the truth hurts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 13, 2007, 02:17:59 PM
Well done Ballycastle on last nights win, fully deserved, although was hoping/expecting a little more from Dunloy.

Anyway, as for Shorty, dont think NAG is criticising him in anyway as some of you may have teken him up, but we all have to remember he's only 18, plenty of time for him to fill out yet. He's as down to earth kinda guy you are ever likely to meet.

Hope has an enjoyable time few days away with his school mates... ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2007, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 13, 2007, 02:17:59 PM

Anyway, as for Shorty, dont think NAG is criticising him in anyway as some of you may have teken him up

:o So wtf is this then girt?

Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 10:05:33 AM

Neill McAuley won the first two or three balls off P. Shileds and the next thing he had a phantom injury and had to be moved.


Tell us how we should have interpreted this comment? NAG is implying that shorty faked injury (an injury where he had to be substituted at half time btw) to get moved out of midfield is he not? We have every reason to take issue with this statement. Still waiting on NAG to retract it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 13, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Why would he retract it as it is obviously his opinion? You may not like it but he is entitled to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 13, 2007, 03:38:38 PM
as rocky says
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2007, 04:06:18 PM
Chill Skull everybody has an opinion on different players from clubs, let it go, could i have the dates/times and venues for the semi finals referees.

Casement would be nice but hey i'll travel down and watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 13, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
Skull

Will he be away kicking soccer this weekend?

This is my opinion formed fairly over watching him for years, I will not retract it because it is true. If you were watching the games nuetrally then you would see what I am getting at.

He is a class act and a lovely hurler. But not one to win you a ball when the going is tough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2007, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
Skull

Will he be away kicking soccer this weekend?

This is my opinion formed fairly over watching him for years, I will not retract it because it is true. If you were watching the games nuetrally then you would see what I am getting at.

He is a class act and a lovely hurler. But not one to win you a ball when the going is tough.

Now that is what I call an opinion and you are very much entitled to it. My problem is what you said at the start of your first post about last nights game

Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Neill McAuley won the first two or three balls off P. Shileds and the next thing he had a phantom injury and had to be moved.

That my friend is slander not an opinion and as far as I'm concerned you are not entitled to come out with crap like that without people taking issue with it. The lad picks up a genuine ankle injury but its ok to for people like you to insinuate that he bottled it and faked injury to get himself out of the game? I cannot believe others think that slander is acceptable




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 14, 2007, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
Skull

Will he be away kicking soccer this weekend?
This is my opinion formed fairly over watching him for years, I will not retract it because it is true. If you were watching the games nuetrally then you would see what I am getting at.

He is a class act and a lovely hurler. But not one to win you a ball when the going is tough.

Yes, he's in Leeds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 11:12:30 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 14, 2007, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 13, 2007, 04:17:10 PM
Skull

Will he be away kicking soccer this weekend?
This is my opinion formed fairly over watching him for years, I will not retract it because it is true. If you were watching the games nuetrally then you would see what I am getting at.

He is a class act and a lovely hurler. But not one to win you a ball when the going is tough.

Yes, he's in Leeds

Is he away this weekend? Girts incorrect reply to your question answers this question

Will he be away kicking soccer this weekend? No because he is injured. Do you still think he isn't?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 14, 2007, 11:38:55 AM
He's in Leeds, prize for winning NI Schools Cup with St Louis couple of months back (which he was team captain).

Carneige (Irish league sponsors), also sponsor that competition, so winners travel to Leeds (where Carneige are based), to play winners of the England,Scotland & Wales competitions. 

They are also taking part in various outdoor activities. They went yesterday morning & return Monday.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 14, 2007, 12:04:55 PM
I may be wrong, anything is possible but...

They are not over in Leeds for a tournament against the British teams, they are over as reward for winning the Northern Ireland soccer schools cup alright, but as far as i know its purely recreational.  some outdoor pursuits, the chance to kick about in and enjoy the facilities at the Leeds met and see around Elland road.

there may be a challenge game against the local school/area team but i'd be sure shorty will give this a miss and get himself right for the cushendall match next week. 

Too me NAG you have just about inflicted the biggest insult you possibly can on a hurler by questioning his honesty and committment to his team, something i never thought i hear said about one of Dunloys most committed and talented hurlers.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 14, 2007, 12:55:30 PM
Max Power

Give me a break

How can you say he is one of Dunloy most committed Hurlers, he has only played two senior championship games. He is playing on a team with guys who have played 15 years of senior championship hurling, when he has completed 5 or so then we can say he has that sort of committment. I think its time you had the rose tinted glasses off.

I did not insult him I have made an observation on his style of play which many here would agree with.  I didnt mention anything about his committment to the rest of his team, Im sure the rest of his team dont mind digging in and doing some work for him, after all it takes all sorts to make up a team, doesnt it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
FFS
How is inferring that he faked injury to get moved off an opponent not an massive personal insult NAG? At least have the balls to answer one of my questions will you? I'm still trying to work out if you're twisted, stupid or just too stubborn to admit you were out of order. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 14, 2007, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
FFS
How is inferring that he faked injury to get moved off an opponent not an massive personal insult NAG? At least have the balls to answer one of my questions will you? I'm still trying to work out if you're twisted, stupid or just too stubborn to admit you were out of order. 

Skull is your main beef with NAG the nature of the insult/slander or the fact that it is aimed at a clubmate? Would you be speaking out so vociferously if it was someone from another club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 14, 2007, 01:16:45 PM
this is not about whether he likes the rough stuff or not, the only objection i have to your comments was in regard to 'the phantom injury' you say he picked up in order to get away from Neal McAuley, now maybe i've interputed this wrong but to me that says

1 - he's dishonest,
2 - he lacks committment to his team, ie he'd put his own performance above the teams needs

you're well entitled to your opinions on his style of hurling, it is his attitude your so badly mistaken about.

Also i can claim he is one of the most committed of the Dunloy hurlers because he seldom misses training, despite the heavy burden on him playing for so many teams and his A Level year, he made a real effort at club level.  i don't think he needs 5 years senior hurling behind him to be recognised as a committed hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 14, 2007, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
FFS
How is inferring that he faked injury to get moved off an opponent not an massive personal insult NAG? At least have the balls to answer one of my questions will you? I'm still trying to work out if you're twisted, stupid or just too stubborn to admit you were out of order. 

Skull is your main beef with NAG the nature of the insult/slander or the fact that it is aimed at a clubmate? Would you be speaking out so vociferously if it was someone from another club?

My beef with NAG is down to the nature of the insult and feel compelled to address it as it has been aimed at my clubmate. If it was someone from another club that I knew and respected I would most certainly say something if the insult was as slanderous as what NAG has came out with. If I didn't know him, I would hope that his clubmates would defend him, if of course they felt the insult wasn't in their opinion true.

Is there a point to why you ask?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2007, 02:14:05 PM
 NAG wont retract, i'm all for defending my club mates but this has went on a bit.

will the win against Dunloy in the under 21 game give Ballycastle any hope or belief against Loughgiel? or have they met their target this year and get better for next?

what areas will Dunloy get the better of Cushendall and will it be enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 14, 2007, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 14, 2007, 02:14:05 PM
NAG wont retract, i'm all for defending my club mates but this has went on a bit.

will the win against Dunloy in the under 21 game give Ballycastle any hope or belief against Loughgiel? or have they met their target this year and get better for next?

what areas will Dunloy get the better of Cushendall and will it be enough?


An area i think Dunloy will struggle will be midfield, where Donal Mc Naughton and Paddy Magill have been outstanding all year. I just cant see Dunloy getting the scores against a pretty tight Cushendall backline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 07:55:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
FFS
How is inferring that he faked injury to get moved off an opponent not an massive personal insult NAG? At least have the balls to answer one of my questions will you? I'm still trying to work out if you're twisted, stupid or just too stubborn to admit you were out of order. 

I trust the irony is not lost on you NAG  :-\

I agree with you milltown....move on time

As I don't like to call games Dunloy will be playing in I'll leave next Sundays game well alone, but agree that Ballycastle could give Loughgiel more of fight than many may think. Think the U21's will provide them with a great springboard going into this game. I do think though that Loughgiel will come through it but not by much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 15, 2007, 06:12:44 PM
Loughgiel won the minor replay today beating C'Dall 2-08 to 2-06. Huge wind blowing down the pitch. Shams lead 2-06 to 0-01 at half time. The Dall clawed it back in the second half and loughgiels number 11 got the line. When the Dall goaled a penalty with 5 mins left to make the score 2-07 to 2-05 my money was on the Dall to win it especially when they got the next point to make the gap one. Fair play to Loughgiel they dug deep and drove themselves forward twice more and got a point from there number 10 just at the end of normal time. C'Dall now needed a goal and Loughgiel held them out until the final whistle. Conor Carson was very good for the Dall and for Loughgiel the whole full back line as well as the number 13 were very good. Apologies for not knowing the players names, first time I saw a lot of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 17, 2007, 09:08:50 AM
Skull

I am not saying he totally faked it, Im saying that he may have got a knock but it happened at a convienient time when he was getting taken to the fair by Neill McAuley. I was just pointing out that he isnt a physical player and that he didnt like it when it was physical, it was you who took umberage to it.

Agree to disagree if you want. But I have the balls to stand over what I said because it is what I saw!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2007, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 17, 2007, 09:08:50 AM
Skull

I am not saying he totally faked it, Im saying that he may have got a knock but it happened at a convienient time when he was getting taken to the fair by Neill McAuley. I was just pointing out that he isnt a physical player and that he didnt like it when it was physical, it was you who took umberage to it.

Agree to disagree if you want. But I have the balls to stand over what I said because it is what I saw!

I've taken this off line...so the rest of youse feel free to talk about more interesting topics
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 17, 2007, 07:50:28 PM
North antrim, congrats on the superb victory very much deversed. what is the mood like within the camp? Has this great victory inspired the older men of the senior team to believe they are good enough??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:21:56 PM
North Antrim seems to have run away with the circus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 18, 2007, 10:13:39 AM
IHC SEMI-FINAL

Cushendun v Glenarm
Carey v St. Paul's

Open draw manages to pair the teams from the same group together again - time for a re-think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 19, 2007, 10:02:31 AM
This will be our 4th time playing Cushendun this year  :-X

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 19, 2007, 10:02:31 AM
This will be our 4th time playing Cushendun this year  :-X

It can be difficult to beat a good side that you've already beaten earlier on in the competition as the revenge factor sits with the other team but mentally you just have to deal with it. It's not as if we all don't know that there is every chance of meeting a team twice in the championship so it shouldn't be a surprise at this stage. The league system provides more games which in the long run is better for hurling. I think we'd all say that this year has been so much better in terms of the number of matches played?

On another point....whats all this gubbins I see on hoganstand about the johnnies selling their club house and the possibility of them amalgamating with st pauls? Can anybody gives us the low down?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 19, 2007, 03:19:10 PM
Saw these odds on Hogan Stand, not sure if they are correct or not.....

Dunloy 6/4 v Cushendall 8/11
Ballycastle 7/4 v Loughguile 8/11

I wonder who Oisin Mc Conville would pick, then just do the opposite from him and Robert is your mothers brother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 19, 2007, 04:32:17 PM
i'd have thought ballycastle are too tight at those odds, would have had them 9/4, won't bet on this championship but i'd have to go bumper for loughgiel,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 19, 2007, 10:23:53 PM
I'll stick my neck out and go for Dunloy to overcome the Ruiari Ogs. Shamrocks should account for McQs with something to spare. Dunloy/Loughgeil final with the reds choking again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 20, 2007, 10:43:58 AM
im a bit soft in the head when it comes to betting , so could some explain to me what: 6/4, 8/11, 7/4 and 8/11 mean? if i put a tener on how much would i get back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 20, 2007, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: youngfella on September 20, 2007, 10:43:58 AM
im a bit soft in the head when it comes to betting , so could some explain to me what: 6/4, 8/11, 7/4 and 8/11 mean? if i put a tener on how much would i get back?

if you put a tenner on the town at 7/4, you will get back aprox............ nothing   :D   :D   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 20, 2007, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: youngfella on September 20, 2007, 10:43:58 AM
im a bit soft in the head when it comes to betting , so could some explain to me what: 6/4, 8/11, 7/4 and 8/11 mean? if i put a tener on how much would i get back?

Well if you put a tenner on Dunloy at 6/4 (if those odds are correct) you would get £25. 7/4 would get you £27.50, but the Town have no chance !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on September 20, 2007, 09:02:21 PM
Sorry lads......havent been on for a while....been celebrating ;D ;D ;D ;D

Great win for u-21's last week. Super performance from the lads. Our big players in Nealer, Hippy and Chrissy delivered and the rest followed. Gives us a great boost for Saturday. Will we beat them????? we have a chance. Honestly if we can negate Winker which we plan to do i personally feel we can take them. Great spirit in the camp at present. Best i have saw it in years. We wont have a better chance to put one over our dear neighbours  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 20, 2007, 09:03:37 PM
The only thing i would say North Antrim is that i am not sure who is gonna do your scoring for you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on September 20, 2007, 09:06:54 PM
Nealer from frees, Pinky is always good for a goal or two.. Remember all we have to do is score more than them. They are limited in that department to. Dont want to give away to much, but from what i hear we have a plan or two up our sleeve ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2007, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on September 20, 2007, 09:06:54 PM
Nealer from frees, Pinky is always good for a goal or two.. Remember all we have to do is score more than them. They are limited in that department to. Dont want to give away to much, but from what i hear we have a plan or two up our sleeve ;) ;)

Sure you've given it away already NA. Like it  :) Killkenny employ that one as well.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 20, 2007, 09:52:58 PM
I hear the Dall have had Terry Mc in taking a few sessions this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 21, 2007, 09:36:06 AM
Terry Mc has been involved a number of times for the Dall this year taking sessions.

I could very well be proven wrong tomorrow but I actually don't think Loughgeil are too far ahead of Ballycastle and there could be an upset.
Negate Wi(a)nker as said and you have taken away their major scoring threat.
Johnny/Barney/Scullion(s) are good hurlers but if Ballycastle put it up them there is a good chance.

Although, the bodies in another final would be too hard to miss - the nerves would start at the final whistle tomorrow night.
What approach would they go for this year...they've done the flags/banners everywhere in the village pre-final and they've done the low key. In fact over this past while they've done everything.
We shall see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 21, 2007, 10:00:41 AM
Having watched loughgiel against Dunloy, I have to say that they are so reliant on Watson its untrue. All the talk about J Scullion appears to be just that, talk!

Have also heard that Barney is carrying a knee injury and is playing through it credit to him but surely a fully fit man would be better in there!

The town would need to up their scoring rate significantly because having watched them against Rossa they play like that and they will be toast.

This is the time of year we all live for so lets hope we get two cracking games over the weekend.

(ps It wasnt that long ago that Cushendall were huntin Terry away from the training, how times change!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:10:07 AM
Loneshark has posted odds from Ladbrokes for matches

Loughguile 1/9 v Ballycastle 9/2
Cushendall 10/11 v Dunloy Evens

The 1/9 for Loughguile must be a misprint.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 21, 2007, 10:12:21 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 21, 2007, 10:00:41 AM

(ps It wasnt that long ago that Cushendall were huntin Terry away from the training, how times change!)


cant ever recall that happening, could you elaborate, i know a few dall players and as far as i am aware, Terry Mc has been involved in taking some sessions for a few years now, just like a few other dall trainers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 21, 2007, 10:28:43 AM
word round our camp is Cushendall had a little influence on the throw-in off our match on sunday! they 'wanted' an extra 15mins on the pitch pre-match, and our game was moved forward!  ;D

looking forward to a good weekend of hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 21, 2007, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:10:07 AM
Loneshark has posted odds from Ladbrokes for matches

Loughguile 1/9 v Ballycastle 9/2
Cushendall 10/11 v Dunloy Evens

The 1/9 for Loughguile must be a misprint.

doubt its a misprint, alot shorter than i personally would have priced them, but a little more realistic that the 8/11 someone posted up here the other day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 21, 2007, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:10:07 AM
Loneshark has posted odds from Ladbrokes for matches

Loughguile 1/9 v Ballycastle 9/2
Cushendall 10/11 v Dunloy Evens

The 1/9 for Loughguile must be a misprint.

doubt its a misprint, alot shorter than i personally would have priced them, but a little more realistic that the 8/11 someone posted up here the other day!

Well when a team is 1/9 the other team is usually bigger than 9/2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 21, 2007, 10:35:48 AM
true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 21, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
Give it timber!

Am talking a few years ago when he was involved with them team. I was talking to a few people and players at the time and they were not impressed with his coaching or attitude and said that they would have prefered him not to be there. Things have moved on and maybe he is improved but I am being serious when I said that. It wasnt that long ago either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 21, 2007, 10:49:54 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 21, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
Give it timber!

Am talking a few years ago when he was involved with them team. I was talking to a few people and players at the time and they were not impressed with his coaching or attitude and said that they would have prefered him not to be there. Things have moved on and maybe he is improved but I am being serious when I said that. It wasnt that long ago either.

yeah, he was manager in 2001 or 2002 (not sure correct me if i am wrong). was his first stint as manager of a senior team, if i can remember right it wasnt his coaching was the problem, it was the managerial side of things, man management wouldnt be one of his strong points.

but beside all that, back to this weekends games, what about the IHC games, any predictions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 21, 2007, 06:26:35 PM
Quote from: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 21, 2007, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: Balboa on September 21, 2007, 10:10:07 AM
Loneshark has posted odds from Ladbrokes for matches

Loughguile 1/9 v Ballycastle 9/2
Cushendall 10/11 v Dunloy Evens

The 1/9 for Loughguile must be a misprint.

doubt its a misprint, alot shorter than i personally would have priced them, but a little more realistic that the 8/11 someone posted up here the other day!


Well when a team is 1/9 the other team is usually bigger than 9/2

Dont forget the draw at 16/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 21, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Ballycastle long odds tommoro because they are a buch of young fellas, having said that the shams have failed in four consectutive finals. seriopus bottle problems in loghgiel. Youth has no fear. if Ballycastle are within a gaol after 45 they will win. Alternatively if the shams play to form they could be 15 up at half time. a good weekends entertainment in store. Hopefully we can produce something in the juniors agianst c'mills, up the rovers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 22, 2007, 12:18:11 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 21, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Ballycastle long odds tommoro because they are a buch of young fellas,

A bunch of young fellas with too many oldies in the team with the likes of Nander & Maybin and a few more who could do with losing a stone or two.
I think the odds are about right.  Loughgiel v Dunloy final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 22, 2007, 07:05:50 PM
Ballycastle 1-9 v 2-18 Loughgiel - comfortable win - anyone at the game with reports - was surprised by the beating Carey took from St. Paul's also  :
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 22, 2007, 11:11:37 PM
Loughgiel came out fast and sharp and picked up a few early scores including a goal from a watson free.  They were playing with the breeze and i suppose trying to make the most of the advantage.  Loughgiel won a lot of ball in the middle and their forwards missed very little.  Pinky knocked over a few points from frees and i think the first half finished Loughgiel 1-12 Ballycastle 0-4.  Loughgiel came out fast again in the second half and knocked over a few more points into the breeze.  Ballycastle seemed intent on niggiling and trying to provoke reactions from some of the Loughgiel players. Ronan Donnelly in particular did his best to wind up Watson which eventually resulted in Watson getting a yellow card.  Loughgiel continued to dominate in the second half and Ballycastle were not able to make use of the wind advantage (Not that it was a gale or anything).  Loughgiel again missed very few chances and were winning by 2-17 to 0-5 half way through the second half.  Loughgiel eased a bit in the last 5 mins as would be understandable and Ballycastle picked up a late goal.  Loughgiel looked impressive against a Ballycastle team who were never at the fair.  If they were to carry this sort of form to the final then i think they are definately capable of beating whoever comes out of the other semi final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 23, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Lone Shark wasn't far off with his 1/9 Loughgiel. I'm heading down to Portaferry later for the Down final. Can someone post the results from Loughgeil and the JHC semi finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 23, 2007, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on September 23, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Lone Shark wasn't far off with his 1/9 Loughgiel.  Can someone post the results from Loughgeil and the JHC semi finals?

1/9 was the actual odds on www.ladbrokes.com for Loughgiel.

I think Armoy led all the way and despite conceding a late goal to make it a one point game,  held out to beat Cloughmills by 2 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 23, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
Cushendall led by 0-6 to 0-5, Dunloy came back at start of second half. Missed a penalty when they were leading by 4pts and held on to win by 2pts.
Loughgiel v Dunloy final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 23, 2007, 08:36:07 PM
Senior Dunloy V Loughgiel,
Inter  Cushendun V St Pauls
Junior Armoy v Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on September 23, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
No comment! :-\ :-\

We were poor, really poor. Didnt show up, big players bar pinky didnt perform.

Didnt go to other semi. Heard Dunloy were good. Loughgiel played well yesterday, but i hope to god they get stuffed cos they are the biggest shower of w****** i have ever come accross

Max and Skull dont let us down!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 23, 2007, 10:26:29 PM
Quote from: North Antrim on September 23, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
No comment! :-\ :-\
<snip>
Erm, i thought u said no comment?

Quote from: North Antrim on September 23, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
We were poor, really poor. Didnt show up, big players bar pinky didnt perform.
LOL apart from Pinky Ballycastle dont have any big players!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
From the Antrim Website

Dunloy end Ruairis reign to book final spot with Shamrocks - Dunloy 0-18 Cushendall 3-8

Dunloy Cuchullains rolled back the years at Loughgiel today (Sunday) to end Cushendall's reign as Antrim County champions and book themselves a final place against arch rivals Loughgiel in two weeks time.
Without a title since 2003 many had felt Dunloy were a spent force, but their old hands like Alastair Elliott, Gregory O'Kane, Liam Richmond and Paddy Richmond showed there is life in the old dog yet as they led their team by example.
Team captain O'Kane was a revelation as he picked off a series of points from play and frees to guide his team to victory.
Dunloy looked the sharper during the opening half and despite playing against the strong breeze it was clear they were in a strong position whey they trailed by just a single point at the break. (0-6 to 0-5)
After the change of ends Dunloy gained a real foothold in the game, and with Paddy Richmond striking some delightful points they eased ahead.
However three goals at strategic points during the second-half kept Cushendall in contention, and the champions even had a chance to snatch it in the dying seconds when substitute Jackie Carson fired inches of the bar when a goal looked certain.
Dunloy go through to face Loughgiel in the October 7th final at Casement Park in a repeat of the 2003 decider which the Cuchullians won by the narrowest of margins after a thrilling contest.


Without question deserved to win yesterday, but could so easily have lost it at the end. Very glad we got the rub of the green there at the end, but should not have let Cushendall get into that position. In general play I thought our backs hurled well without anyone shining, midfield were excellent throughout (I hope you have changed you opinion of young shorty now NAG) and our forwards were excellent again especially in the second half.

A few gripes.
What was with all the over carrying decisions yesterday?  I have never seen so many in one match in my life and IMO 90% of them were wrong. Also there is now way two matches should have been played on that surface yesterday. Anybody that was on the pitch at the end of the game would have seen that....ah well ...alls well that ends well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on September 24, 2007, 11:02:17 AM
Fair play to Dunloy - they fully deserved the win yesterday. Just been reading the hoganstand. there is talk to some of our players out full last sunday. This is news to me. Can anyone else from the dall shed any light on this? I'm sure I'll hear it around the village in the next few days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 24, 2007, 11:07:29 AM
have to agree Skull, Dunloy where the better team on the day and was very obvious that they wanted to win more than the Dall. was very disappointed in alot of Cushendall performences.

Dunloy didnt let Cushendall get going especially around midfield, where Cushendalls midfiled was awful. i thought your backs where suspect though Skull, 3 goals and only for a few fumbles and a bad umpires decision (was up to the left of the goals - def over the line) there should have been more goals.

i am not sure what you should take from the game skull, overall i thought Dunloy played really well with alot of big performances, but in the end of the day if jackie carson had off went for a goal at the end of the game yous would have been beat. (have been told he thought there was only a point in it so took his point)

i think it should be a good final, Dunloy look really sharp - especially in the forward line, so my tip is Dunloy for the Final

PS @ogruairi - i am not from the Dall, but had heard this during the week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on September 24, 2007, 11:14:42 AM
Give-it-Timber so you heard this during the week? Any names? I was out and about all week and heard nothing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 11:21:15 AM
 
Quote from: Give-it-Timber on September 24, 2007, 11:07:29 AM
Dunloy didnt let Cushendall get going especially around midfield, where Cushendalls midfiled was awful. i thought your backs where suspect though Skull, 3 goals and only for a few fumbles and a bad umpires decision (was up to the left of the goals - def over the line) there should have been more goals.

i am not sure what you should take from the game skull, overall i thought Dunloy played really well with alot of big performances, but in the end of the day if jackie carson had off went for a goal at the end of the game yous would have been beat. (have been told he thought there was only a point in it so took his point)


Nobody will know that more than Dunloy G-I-T. Fortunately its history now. A new hunt a new hound awaits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 24, 2007, 11:39:28 AM
was lots of over-carrying decisions i thought myself, but to me majority were correct! bar one that i remember clearly - Shorty was taken out over on the dunloy line by what was nothing short of a rugby tackle, happened right in front of me, was brutal. the lad got straight up and tried to carry on & was then blown for over-carrying. strange decision.

anyway thought dunloy fought for everything yesterday, were really pumped up, & couple of their oul hans certainly rolled backed the years.

Pitch also was in poor nick as someone has said. not as poor as we were v cushendun though  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 11:47:43 AM
What about Malachy Molloys in the first half when he was tripped? If he'd have fell he would have got a free but he stayed on his feet but by the time he regained his balance the ref blew the whistle.... :-\ and then the other blatant one which comes to mind was Darren Quinns in the second half. He leaps 2 foot into the air catches the ball lands and is tackled to the ground man lying on top of him and the ref blows the whistle again....crazy stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
Was at the game yesterday and thought it was as gritty and hard hurling as you are going to get anywhere in Ireland

Dont think the pitch suited the teams either way and the breeze played it part too. Good decision by dunloy to play against it in the first half. They really got into the faces of the cushendall players from the first whistle, really admired thier attitude and togetherness.

Now to the game.

Dunloy backs were under severe pressure most of the first half and coped really well. Thought cushendall didnt work the ball enough they were too willing to shoot form anywhere around the pitch and that made the ball to their forwards less than quality. Karl, Shane and Brian D all guilty of this. Mid field was non existant because of the breeze, shorty did sweep up alot of loose ball along with molloy but didnt really affect the game in a positive manner. Molloy still doesnt look comfortable as a mid fielder.

Dunloy probably were most effective in their half forward line in that they stopped Cushendall's strongest line from dominating and setting up play, they also picked off some nice scores.

Dunloy's inside forward line looked like they could rip cushendall apart but never really did, until O'Kane at the end with some vital scores. Young graffin gave richmond his fill of it in the first half.

Thought the game should have been away form cushendall earlier but credit to them they fought hard and got some lucky breaks.

Better team won on the day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 24, 2007, 11:50:28 AM
Wasnt at the game yesterday but the ref was the fella that was ref in Minor Final (drawn game) few weeks back and he was atrocious, fella at match yesterday said he was poor again yesterday. Some strange decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 12:09:26 PM
I could see where the ref was trying to let the game go and agree thats what they all should be doing but why spoil it by blowing up these silly over carrying decisions? If a player takes two steps and then ships a hard tackle he should be allow an extra step or maybe two (but no more than that) to hurl on ....that is letting the game flow IMO. That is how good all Ireland referees seem to do it. Another thing I'd like to know is how a man can get a yellow card for tapping a ball on a mans helmet (he dropped like a stone  :-\) yet another man only gets a black card for maliciously lashing out with the stick as he tumbled to the ground after being fouled himself.

Don't really like getting on the backs of referees as they have one of the hardest job to do, but frustrations do come out and I do think reflecting on poor performances (same as an team would do ) will only make them better over time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2007, 12:10:32 PM
I find the Ballycastle score quite worrying as they have a few boys who are reckoned to be great hopes for Antrim hurling in McAuley and young Donnelly and they have never yet seemed to count at all in senior hurling. Anyone any opinions on how boys like that are developing? (Don't want to be harsh on young boys but thought they would be starting to develop now...) I would actually say the same for Joey Scullion...

Dunloy are still hard to watch. In Dick O'Kane and Paddy Richmond they probably have two of the best three scorers in club hurling in antrim - with winker being the notable other one. They also have quite a bit of big game(winning) experience and this should stand them in good stead for the final.

For Loughgiel previously it would have been a catastrophe to lose 5 finals in row - now that catastrophe would be at least ten times worse if they lost it to dunloy!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 24, 2007, 12:13:59 PM
I could be wrong but i think the Shamrocks would prefer to play Dunloy in the final, Cushendall seemed to have their number.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2007, 12:10:32 PM
I find the Ballycastle score quite worrying as they have a few boys who are reckoned to be great hopes for Antrim hurling in McAuley and young Donnelly and they have never yet seemed to count at all in senior hurling. Anyone any opinions on how boys like that are developing? (Don't want to be harsh on young boys but thought they would be starting to develop now...) I would actually say the same for Joey Scullion...

Its the lack of fight in Ballycastles performances which is really worrying for them. I thought with the backroom team they had coupled along with the success in the U21's that they would have brought something more to the table against Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 24, 2007, 02:51:58 PM
i thought especially given the conditions it was a fair good game og hurling yesterday played in the right spirit for championship.  Cushendall were worthy champions and Dunloy knew it would take a hell of an effort to beat them.

There were so many talking point about the game it was incredible,

firstly the 'goal' cushendall got in the first half, didn't cross the line, it got as far as the line and was picked of the ground (so should have been a free) there was a case for square ball.

Actually thought Cushendall may have been hard done by with a point in the second half as well.  it seemed to nearly go straight over the post, was a very close decision and thankfully it went for us.

the numerous over carrying decisions that went against us were also key to keeping Cushendall in the game at times, as was especially there third freak goal.

great credit to the squad for not letting the goals get to them, this time last year bad goals beat us, but after each goal we quickly scored to get the momentum back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 24, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
lads, over carrying is rife, it's four bloody steps, if he's being fouled and advantaged is allowed then he will give some more so the game can flow. some players always take too many steps usually forwards, very annoying being a defender when you go to make a tackle after he has the ball only for him to run on unpunished for over carrying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on September 24, 2007, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 24, 2007, 02:51:58 PM
firstly the 'goal' cushendall got in the first half, didn't cross the line, it got as far as the line and was picked of the ground (so should have been a free) there was a case for square ball.

think you have this one wrong max, the ball was def over the line, once if not twice and your right the goalie did lift it of the ground and how the umpire didnt see any of the 3  i dont know as i could see the the ball over the line and lifting of the ground from where i was.

i dont think that should be dwelled on though, not sure if it would have made much difference in the end, the better team won, Most of Cushendall players got out of the game exactly what they put into it.

looking forward to a good final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 24, 2007, 05:56:13 PM
i initially thought that it had crossed the line, maybe my dunloy bias coming through now but i seem to recall it being struck of the defenders leg on the line the struck again as the player was lying down, it seemed to be under his leg as he lay on the line.  no way to tell if the whole ball crossed the line, and if it did it was a very very tight call.  certainly wasn't the foot over the line some are suggesting. 

anyhows as you say no sense dwelling on maybe's,

anyone know the schedule for the day of the finals, is the football on first?  I remember a few years back we were in the All-Ireland final two years on the trot and both years it was the first game, the reason was to make sure the hurling got the pitch when it was in its best condition.  sorta thought that made sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 24, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
Can i just say this after reading the posts from yesterdays game, i am a blow in from Dublin playing here for a few years, i have watched in my own opinion two of the best games in Antrim for a least 3-4 years. The first was the Minor Final at casement, absolutely awesome game, you would be hard pushed in this island of ours to find better, fantastic spirit skill and a very mature attitude from both teams, and yesterday at L/guile again a great spirit fight determination and just what the Doctor ordered as far a good hard physical hurling, long time since i witnessed that!!

The same Referee for both games, they have a part to play in their contribution to that, and yet you still give out, no wonder Antrim Hurling is where it is, just like the British Press always looking to put people down. I hear gripes about the southern game and how the officials in antrim contribute  poor officiating which is then reflected on the county and club performances. Lads its time to give credit where it is due, i for one thought his approach in both games was 100% correct, he let the game get on with itself, and when people took advantage of that he stepped in, as all good referees who understand the game should.

Congratulations Garrett Duffy( St Galls ), two great performances, i wish you ever success if you can stick this sort of bitching, good luck to you. Come to Dublin if it gets to much, they are crying out for good referees. ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2007, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 24, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
lads, over carrying is rife, it's four bloody steps, if he's being fouled and advantaged is allowed then he will give some more so the game can flow. some players always take too many steps usually forwards, very annoying being a defender when you go to make a tackle after he has the ball only for him to run on unpunished for over carrying

Quote from: davincicode on September 24, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
Can i just say this after reading the posts from yesterdays game, i am a blow in from Dublin playing here for a few years, i have watched in my own opinion two of the best games in Antrim for a least 3-4 years. The first was the Minor Final at casement, absolutely awesome game, you would be hard pushed in this island of ours to find better, fantastic spirit skill and a very mature attitude from both teams, and yesterday at L/guile again a great spirit fight determination and just what the Doctor ordered as far a good hard physical hurling, long time since i witnessed that!!

The same Referee for both games, they have a part to play in their contribution to that, and yet you still give out, no wonder Antrim Hurling is where it is, just like the British Press always looking to put people down. I hear gripes about the southern game and how the officials in antrim contribute  poor officiating which is then reflected on the county and club performances. Lads its time to give credit where it is due, i for one thought his approach in both games was 100% correct, he let the game get on with itself, and when people took advantage of that he stepped in, as all good referees who understand the game should.

Congratulations Garrett Duffy( St Galls ), two great performances, i wish you ever success if you can stick this sort of bitching, good luck to you. Come to Dublin if it gets to much, they are crying out for good referees. ???

I would prefer to call my comments constructive criticisms davincicode. He did indeed let alot of physical challenges go which I think was good refereeing and how it should be ( I have stated this already and is a change for the better in Antrim refereeing terms). But I have difficulty when he doesn't allow a "little bit" of advantage to the man in possession when he ships these tackles to play on. To me yesterday especially on such a sticky pitch it certainly wasn't needed. An above average number of over carrying decisions were blew yesterday. I think I know what "over carrying" looks like and most of yesterdays decisions were not overcarrying IMO. If every ref was as tight on this milltown then fair enough but they are not hence the annoyance at the varying interpretations. Glad you enjoyed the games dc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 24, 2007, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 24, 2007, 05:56:13 PM
i initially thought that it had crossed the line, maybe my dunloy bias coming through now but i seem to recall it being struck of the defenders leg on the line the struck again as the player was lying down, it seemed to be under his leg as he lay on the line.  no way to tell if the whole ball crossed the line, and if it did it was a very very tight call.  certainly wasn't the foot over the line some are suggesting. 

anyhows as you say no sense dwelling on maybe's,

anyone know the schedule for the day of the finals, is the football on first?  I remember a few years back we were in the All-Ireland final two years on the trot and both years it was the first game, the reason was to make sure the hurling got the pitch when it was in its best condition.  sorta thought that made sense

According to the county website the Senior Hurling final is fixed for 16.00 on October 7th. So if they are both on the one day it will be football first. I know in the past this has led to problems, about ten years ago the football wnet to extra time leading to a 30-40 minute delay for the hurling final. That could leave the hurling starting at 16.45, I hope the much vaunted casment floodlights will be available if that turns out to be the case.

On a seperate note I see Dunloy are also in the intermediate football final next weekend, are there many players taking part in both finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 24, 2007, 10:20:27 PM
They usually play the hurling second. It's the main game aftyer all and attracts the biggest crowd!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 24, 2007, 10:35:50 PM
Yep hurling on 2nd. Football final is at 2pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 24, 2007, 10:55:30 PM
This weeks fixtures:

Junior Hurling Championship Final

Armoy  v sharkin  Casement Park 30/09/2007 14:00 

Intermediate Hurling Championship Final

Cushendun v St. Pauls  Casement Park 30/09/2007 16:00
   
Reserve Hurling Championship

Tir na Nog v Portaferry  Tir na Nog 29/09/2007 14:00   
St. Endas v St. Johns  St. Endas 29/09/2007 14:00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 25, 2007, 08:51:12 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 24, 2007, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 24, 2007, 05:56:13 PM
i initially thought that it had crossed the line, maybe my dunloy bias coming through now but i seem to recall it being struck of the defenders leg on the line the struck again as the player was lying down, it seemed to be under his leg as he lay on the line.  no way to tell if the whole ball crossed the line, and if it did it was a very very tight call.  certainly wasn't the foot over the line some are suggesting. 

anyhows as you say no sense dwelling on maybe's,

anyone know the schedule for the day of the finals, is the football on first?  I remember a few years back we were in the All-Ireland final two years on the trot and both years it was the first game, the reason was to make sure the hurling got the pitch when it was in its best condition.  sorta thought that made sense

According to the county website the Senior Hurling final is fixed for 16.00 on October 7th. So if they are both on the one day it will be football first. I know in the past this has led to problems, about ten years ago the football wnet to extra time leading to a 30-40 minute delay for the hurling final. That could leave the hurling starting at 16.45, I hope the much vaunted casment floodlights will be available if that turns out to be the case.

On a seperate note I see Dunloy are also in the intermediate football final next weekend, are there many players taking part in both finals?

It was a semi-final replay between St. Gall's and Cargin, which Cargin won, that was played before the Ballycastle - Cushendall final.  It is obvious that the football semi-final should have been the curtain raiser, but it should also have been obvious that extra-time was possible.  Then again look at the impact extra-time had in this year's Tommy Murphy Cup final.

So there is no possibility of extra-time in the football final delaying the hurling final on 7th October and hence, no real need for the much vaunted floodlights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 25, 2007, 09:35:05 AM
If Portglenone win, there is no way the hurling will start on time !! 1st championship in history, the stewards wont prevent a pitch invasion and they will be in no hurry off it. if St Galls win, different story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on September 25, 2007, 01:09:59 PM
First of all congrats to Dunloy on their fully deserved victory, it would probably have been robbery if he nicked at the end. Dunloy were hungrier & that was the main reason for their victory. Cushendall just didnt perform on the day but at least we went down like champions by fighting to the end as some teams could have folded(we've done it previously) & some of main players had nightmares...but we've had two great years so we cant complain. That could be the last time we possibly see Monty in a Cushendall jersey. He's been a legend for us & wish him all the best. We owe him alot.

To the final,Loughgiel will definately fancy their chances. Who will mark Watson?? If Dunloy get the same performances out of Paddy, Dick & Ally as they did on Sunday I think they'll win. Should be a good match. The nerves will kick in now :-[.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2007, 12:51:20 PM
SENIOR COUNTY FINALS
The covered stand will be all ticket on Sun 7th Oct.To facilitate those clubs involved tickets will go on sale as follows.Thurs 27th St Galls 7.30-8.30.Fri 28th Portglenone 7.30-8.30.Wed 3rd Oct Dunloy 7.30-8.30.Thurs 4th Oct Loughgiel 7.30-8.30.A limited number of tickets will be on sale to all other patrons on Tues 2nd in Casement 7.00-8.00pm.Would patrons please note that every person including children must have a ticket to gain access to the stand.

£12 for adults and £3  juveniles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 26, 2007, 01:53:53 PM
I really really dont see why we should be bailing out other counties at the expense of our own.

If Ulster council want to fund other counties with coaches and get them up to a reasonable standard then let them.

As antrim people we need to get our own house in order before we do anything. We need to get structures right in our weaker clubs so that they bring their own standard up and by doing so bring the competitiveness of the whole league up.

Correct me if Im wrong but is that not the job of our paid Hurling Games Development Manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2007, 02:08:50 PM
As NAG has mentioned, messing around with league formats is only tinkering. The real problem is the standards in Antrim outside of the top 3. Until proper focus is given to coaching then our fortunes won't improve. Dunloy have only just grasped the nettle this year and hope to improve their coaching structures right through the club as we have taken our eye of the ball in this regard also. I do think there should be a top down approach from county level setting out so guidelines to clubs on the sort of structures they should have.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 26, 2007, 02:12:27 PM
skull

This really gets under my skin as we have a full time paid offical in Casment for this job on good money better than most and we have yet to see any form of results or even a plan to improve our general standards.

I know Dunloy went and did all the structures for coaching themselves and fair play to them, but where was the help or guidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 26, 2007, 03:24:07 PM
In those league structures suggested what do current Antrim Div 2/Div 3 teams do. Play in leagues with Armagh/Donegal teams of a similar standard. An inventive idea it was but one that was not thought through.

We need to run with the leagues as they are and stop tinkering. We need Div 3 clubs to aspire to get into Div 2...to hope to consolidate should they get promoted and then look to build. We need teams like St Pauls back in there flighting tooth and nail to get their Div 1 status back.

We encourage clubs to focus on juvenile training and nuture the talent within Antrim. Not drag Derry/Down along with us as mentioned. They are our rivals and are increasingly (esp Derry) cathcing up with us (and some might say passing).
Our development officer (as mentioned) is given the task of as well as coaching youngsters in schools of setting in place structures for clubs within the county.
E.G. he goes to St Johns, a club that is much touted as being in decline (but a club that ran Dunloy close this year) - discusses the club with the chairman, other senior figures, requests are made for juvenile coaches who should be provided with the appropriate gear, support etc and we work our way up from there.

We do it on our own doorstep and build.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 26, 2007, 03:29:32 PM
TO THE FINAL

Having just about got through my own personal pain over the weekend's results something that has got me through it is the prospect of the County Final.

Maybe early to turn our heads to it, but screw it - this one can be talked about till the cows come home.


I can't bloody wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 26, 2007, 03:53:32 PM
Glensman

Perfectly said on the League structures, we must have the highest paid service officer of any county team because as far as I can tell that is all our GDM has done since he came in!

Who was the player to come in and play midfield?

To the final
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Cant see Dunloy making any special arrangements for watson on a good day he might score a goal and 10 points from play, if you restrict the rest of their forwards to a point or a couple of points each thats still not a massive target? what you reckon.

IMO Dunloy will attempt to screw the rest of the forwards to the floor and then try and work with watson.

Loughgiel should be worried about their back line. Barney is struggling with an injury and isnt the force he was. Gillian in corner back seems to give alot of fouls away and their two wing half backs can be dominated in the air on the puck outs as dunloy showed both first and second halfs in the group game.

Think Dunloys improvement this year is that they are winning more ball in the half foward line where they struggled last year and allowed teams to get on top of them from there. The wide open spaces should suit Dunloy with their more accurate speedy brand of hurling. Thin loughgiel will be coming with an agressive game plan hit first ask questions later which seemed to be the policy against ballycaslte. But Dunloy are no ballycatle and they wont be bullied or pushed out of anything they have too much experience and nouse when it comes to the big occasion.

Tough tight match with experience telling both ways!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on September 26, 2007, 04:16:19 PM
Loughgiel played a two man full forward line against B/castle & brought their spare man back. Although I'm not sure if that was just a ploy to leave space for Dumb Dumb & Joey Sculllion as the ballycastle back line is quite slow. Think they might do that again to try & cut down any ball going into Dunloy's Full forward line. If they do this then the spare man Dunloy will have could play round the half back line to cut down the space on wee winker watson(as they used to say). Heard Patch marked him over in Dunloy in the group stages so they might leave him on Watson or they could do what did on Ben O'Connor a few years ago & bring Micky McClements out of corner back.

Not sure about Dunloys backline either...they seem to miss the presence of big mal there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 26, 2007, 05:15:35 PM
don't like to bleat or sound like a miser but does anyone else think admission to these matches is getting a little bit dear

£12 into the county final, £7 into last weekends double headers and £5 into most championship matches.  i do have to wonder are we now trying to maximise revenue or attract supporters

a couple of dunloy supporters this weekend could easily have spent £28 attending the two semi finals, this weekend is the intermediate finals so another £14 and then £24 into the county final.  thats £66 to support your team. 

No doubt plenty will go to these matches and so justify the price, but is the GAA blindly ripping of loyalty,

To be honest i try and support as many teams as i can, but i'm getting fed up reaching over £10 everytime i go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 26, 2007, 05:48:03 PM
Are you on the drugs NAG? Now I wasn't at the match on Sunday for different reasons but I thought that Paul Shields played midfield? Was this not the same Paul Shields that got injured in the Under 21s and was out for 5 weeks? The same one that you and Skull had your wee 'set too' over.
(before this goes anywhere I am not saying he wasn't injured just that the injury was talked up a bit in advance of the senior semi - all fun and games in my book in the week before a match).

As regards phantom injuries - did Neil McAuley pick one up on Saturday evening v the bodies?!...again I am joking NAG before you go to town on me.

Agree with your synopsis NAG...take the rest out and Winker is fighting a lone battle which he can do alright but it becomes increasingly frustrating for him and we all know what he does when he gets frustrated.

What's the story with big Mal - is he injured?

I agree with you maxpower...when you are bringing the family it certainly adds up.
These finals have the potential to bring a big gate to Casement - the price will put a fair few neutrals off.
Title: Re: SH Final
Post by: Last Man on September 26, 2007, 06:24:13 PM
If Loughgiel try the 2 man forward line all Dunloy have to do is mirror this tactic to negate any benefit. They wont be that naive to allow any of their backs to be pulled into midfield. Patch has to be the man to mark Winker, as good as he is I don't ever remember Patch getting cleaned out by him, especially on a big day. He still has pace and the coolest head on the Dunloy team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 27, 2007, 11:53:05 AM
www.ladbrokes.com

To win championship:
Loughgiel 8/11
Dunloy Evs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2007, 02:03:51 PM
Would be surprised if Loughgiel would use the extra man in defence, you find it probably was a Ballycastle tactic to bring an extra man back. Loughgiel played perfect hurling last year in the first half. Cushendall were all over the place and could not stick with them at all. God only knows what happened to their game plan in the second half.

I think if Loughgiel steal a march this year they will not let it slip up. For Dunloy, well they will always chip away, they can get points from all over the park and don't rely on one or two people to score. Not impressed with the Loughgiel midfield and I think this will have major bearing on the out come, Casement is a big pitch so the Ball does not by pass the midfield area and with Malloy in there winning ball and feeding the forwards this may give Dunloy the upper hand.

As said earlier Patch is great at reading the game and anticipating ball, but winker does not play in a certain position, he's a bit of a rover, loose ball player, and picks up a lot of breaking ball. I think Dunloy will just hold their positions, and play their own game and not fix it on Winker.

Cant wait for the final, we play first have one pint after our game then head back out for the hurling final. not going to tip any teams just hoping for a good hard game

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: heurebag on September 27, 2007, 04:25:55 PM
i hear sambo n woody have been turfed off the managment team n padraig o mhainin has een installed as manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 27, 2007, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: heurebag on September 27, 2007, 04:25:55 PM
i hear sambo n woody have been turfed off the managment team n padraig o mhainin has een installed as manager

???  ???  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: heurebag on September 28, 2007, 10:10:12 PM
smabo n woody r out, n padraig o mhainin is in th managerial position(he led derry to camogie all ireland final 2 yrs in a row, winning at the second attempt)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 29, 2007, 01:58:54 AM
there is a padraig o mainin, heurebag is clearly a wum and good luck to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 29, 2007, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 29, 2007, 01:58:54 AM
heurebag is clearly a wum and good luck to him.

What's a wum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 29, 2007, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2007, 07:06:32 PM
Wind Up Merchant!

;D
Aha! now i see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on September 30, 2007, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2007, 07:02:49 PM
Armoy  0-11 0-9 Rasharkin

Cushendun  4-11 1-10 St. Pauls

Cushendun salvaged their season well, bringing back a few of the older lads midseason that had retired, without them they would have been fucked this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 01, 2007, 12:04:42 PM
Delighted for the lads up in Cushendun.  I was at their game a few weeks back when Michael Hamilton scored a goal against Ahoghill with the last puck to win the game and this meant they were able to come through to the semis.

I presume they go into the Ulster Intermediate now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2007, 12:09:53 PM
They will BC.

The intermediate is usually tight enough for Antrim teams as you're up against Armagh's best and Donegal's best but it should be within their ability. GNM won it last year and Glenarriffe the year before. Not too sure of the dates/schedules for it though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2007, 12:31:00 PM
Laitroim Fontenoys (Down IHC Champions) will be worth keeping an eye on in the Ulster. They are a very pacey side with enough  very good hurlers to rack up a good points tally from play. I dont think they are a big threat for goals though against a decent back line but they can take enough points from further out to compensate. I have to say I think C'Dun will struggle, hope I am wrong but I think the goal chances they got and took yesterday don't often come round. St.Pauls have been very patchy all year due to the fact that they haven't had a settled squad so they shouldn't have been so complacent and concede goals the way they did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 02, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
Anyone got the odds for the hurling final the weekend

Heard ladbrokes offering Dunloy at evens but dont think that could be right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 02, 2007, 09:52:09 AM
Quote from: NAG on October 02, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
Anyone got the odds for the hurling final the weekend

Heard ladbrokes offering Dunloy at evens but dont think that could be right!

I cant on to gambling sites at work but i think i saw somewhere they are both 10/11 or evens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on October 02, 2007, 01:33:00 PM
Toals:

Loughgiel 5/6
Dunloy 5/6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 02, 2007, 02:06:04 PM
if your for betting would ye not support our own lone shark

ladbrokes odds

Loughgiel 8/11
Dunloy Evs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 02, 2007, 02:08:20 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 02, 2007, 02:06:04 PM
if your for betting would ye not support our own lone shark

ladbrokes odds

Loughgiel 8/11
Dunloy Evs

I think it would be a case of supporting Ladbrokes as opposed to Loneshark, in any case none of the bookies are in dire need of our cash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on October 02, 2007, 02:27:54 PM
Depends. if any serious gambler wanted to heavily back Loughgiel they would back with toals instead of Ladbrokes, & vice-versa with dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 04, 2007, 09:53:58 AM
Its all gone very quiet on here!

Lets have some build up to the big game,

key battles and analysis of the game

who is going to come out on top and why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
It should be an interesting game and I'm looking forward to it much more than the football I have to say.

Dick O'Kane v Johnny Campbell should be a good battle though I think Dick might have a wee bit too much guile for them.

Who will mark Liam Richmond - Loughgiels full back is a bit young maybe...

Then on the other end you have Joey Scullion, Watson and the other fella who scored big in the semi - Laverty was it? - to be marked. I imagine Mullan will get Watson as discussed bu am not too sure on the other two.

Midfield should be interesting too.

Dunloy by 3...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 04, 2007, 12:26:48 PM
Tommy, I'd say Dick will be FF & Liam Richmond CHF. so it'll be a big battle between Liam & Johnny who's been hurling well for Loughgiel this year. Paddy Richmond might start at wing half forward where he come on against L'giel in Dunloy, in order to expose young fadden especially in the air. Apparantly Barney & Johnny has been struggling with injury lately so they'll need them fully fit.

Think McKeague will pick up Joey Scullion if Joey is FF & possibly Micky McClements will pick up  Damian 'Dim Dim' Laverty( thats who you meant Tommy) & they might leave Parrot on watson at the start with the option of moving Patch onto him. Probably see Loughgiel playing 2 man FF Line & bringing spare man back to midfield

Midfield will be huge & I think it could be really bunched with the prospect of 3rd midfielders & the likes of Connor Cunning  & Curry helping out there to leave space there to leave space for FF line

It's a really tough match to call & hope it's a cracker. Dunloy have a strong bench which could shade it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 04, 2007, 12:42:04 PM
Good analysis Exile

I generally agree with you.

If johnny campbell hurls well then loughgiel generally do as well. Think it will come down to that line whether dunloy can dominate the loughgiel half back line, physically in their group game dunloy demolished them and if the same happens this time around with the space on casment dunloy could get alot of room.

Dunloy will have to tighten up their defence and not concede the same goals obviously, if they can restrict loughgiel to points then can see dunloy winning at a canter but if loughgiel get the life blood of the goals they will be dangerous enough.

Has all the hallmarks of a classic of the weather holds together then we should be in for a treat.

very hard to call but can see Dunloy by one or two but dont rule out the draw!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 12:50:14 PM
Liam Richmond is one that's hard to mark too though I think he may have slowed a bit with that back injury.

Does Eoin McCloskey still play at all for Loughgiel? They would strike me as not having any wise old heads. I assume that's Eddie in midfield? It's a big position for one so young but he seems to have plenty of ability. The other McCloskey is very young for a big day too but he seems useful.

I'm looking forward to this game. I'm not too bothered who wins it but you will see people going mental in the stands given the rivalry between the two - plus having sat beside Loughgiel people on the last few final days their nerves are generally pretty bad no matter who they play but playing Dunloy will multiply them by a few times. I wish I could say I was looking forward to the football but seems a foregone conclusion.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 04:42:15 PM
Looks like Antrim are going to make an application to play in the munster shc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 04, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 04:42:15 PM
Looks like Antrim are going to make an application to play in the munster shc.

Cant see it succeeding, Munster does not need us. The Munster championship would lose some of its lustre & prestige if Antrim were getting beat out the gate every year. It may raise Sambos profile, which he seems keen on, but would it really help Antrim hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 04, 2007, 09:07:06 PM
Antrim would get hammered in the Munster Championship...could they not ask to join Leinster instead??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on October 04, 2007, 09:14:04 PM
The point in asking to join munster is to show up the farce of the new arrangements. As things stand antrim play Galway, loose most likely then play a beaten munster team in round 2. If Antrim enter the munster championship and get stuffed they will then face one of the loosing leinster teams in round two or three giving them a much better chance to progress. It seems like a plan to screw up the arrangements as much as possible and I think that is a good idea. These proposals have been written to promote hurling in Kilkenny, Munster etc and screw the rest of the country. I hope the antrim board have the balls to gum up the works as much as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 04, 2007, 09:43:30 PM
Clever idea and I wish them all the best with it. These changes work to the advantage of Kilkenny and nobody else in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on October 05, 2007, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: Balboa on October 04, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 04:42:15 PM
Looks like Antrim are going to make an application to play in the munster shc.

Cant see it succeeding, Munster does not need us. The Munster championship would lose some of its lustre & prestige if Antrim were getting beat out the gate every year. It may raise Sambos profile, which he seems keen on, but would it really help Antrim hurling?

I see that chip on the shoulder about Sambo is still very apparent. whats wrong Rocky, did he throw you out of the saffron.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Give-it-Timber on October 05, 2007, 09:24:38 AM
Quote from: Balboa on October 04, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 04, 2007, 04:42:15 PM
Looks like Antrim are going to make an application to play in the munster shc.

Cant see it succeeding, Munster does not need us. The Munster championship would lose some of its lustre & prestige if Antrim were getting beat out the gate every year. It may raise Sambos profile, which he seems keen on, but would it really help Antrim hurling?

I see that chip on the shoulder about Sambo is still very apparent. whats wrong Rocky, did he throw you out of the saffron.

No chip at all, just think he is an egomaniac. I was never thrown out of the Biaffron, just carried out.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 05, 2007, 09:58:58 AM
I think the whole idea of moving Antrim to the Munster championship is unworkable. However I have to say I like the attitude of the Antrim board in sticking two fingers up at the HDC and trying to mess up their ridiculous system.

We have to start to face facts here I think anyway, NO ONE at Ulster council level cares about hurling be it in Ulster or anywhere else for that matter. They dont want to promote it and they dont want anything to do with it in general.

It is up to Antrim to get our own house in order and do the best job we can to promote hurling in the county and to build it as strong as we can and then Ulster council will have to sit  up and take notice and put some money where its mouth is.

For all the paid coaches and officials we have now pay for in Ulster how many have we got working to promote Hurling in our schools and colleges in Antrim? Someone please tell me because if it is more than two people in the whole of the county then I am shocked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Antrim on October 05, 2007, 10:19:35 AM
In my opinion, only token work in being put in by schools especially primary level. With notable exceptions to prob Cross and passion and maybe St Marys the rest of our schools are failing us. No hurling in pe lessons and only playing fulfilling fixtures.

When i was at skool many moons ago all we played was practically hurling with Brian Thompson (RIP). Maybe some 5 aside in hall but emphasis was on hurling. Is that happening now??

On sunday - good luck to both teams. Dunloy will start as favourites, but although i want loughgiel beat, i have a sneaking feeling they will finally win their big yin....they seem well coached and ready to deliver.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: North Antrim on October 05, 2007, 10:19:35 AM
In my opiion, only token work in being put in by schools especially primary level. With notable exceptions to prob Cross and passion and maybe St Marys the test of our schools are failing us. No hurling in pe lessons and only playing fulfilling fixtures.

When i was at skool many moons ago all we played aws practically hurling with Brian Thompson (RIP). Maybe some 5 aside in hall but emphasis was on hurling. Is that happening now??

On sunday - good luck to both teams. Dunloy will start as favourites, but although i want loughguiel beat, i have a sneaking feeling they will finally win their big yin....they seem well coached and ready to deliver.

Are you sure you have been to school North Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 05, 2007, 10:50:08 AM
that was a dreadful attempt at a post alright NA.  have to agree with your senitments, i believe the Schools are A major factor in the lack of progress of this County.

Look at the Ballymena Schools, St Louis & St Pats are fed by two of the biggest clubs in Antrim, they have a large number of boys from the surrounding clubs yet the effort is pure tokenism.  Once in 7 years of PE did we play hurling, 90% time it was soccer.  The after schools teams where poorly organised and any success was almost in spite of itself.

I remember vividly speaking to our esteemed principal and asing about bring in the hurls and going for a poc about in the astro turf field at lunch time etc, (not a being in the entire field ever at lunch time) he said it would be too dangerous carrying them in and out.  thats the mindset your up against and good hurilng men like Seamus McCamphill and Mr O'Loan had to face to keep hurling going.

Compared that to the hurling nursey that is St Kierans in Kilkenny, played them in a game once and the bate us out the gate, Eoin Kelly of tipp fame was the star attraction, but speaking to their coach after the game, they got out of classes for training. whole different approach to the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 11:02:37 AM
I agree with you Maxpower but a friend of mine takes Garron Towers Mageean team and he reckons St Louis are as strong as any of them this year and could be a dark horse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 05, 2007, 12:17:31 PM
Garron Tower is a farce as well considering the good hurlers they've had down during the years. The coaches were & are still very poor. C & P are doing alot of work especially with this new project to be a sporting school of excellence??. Alot of the ones from C'dall are starting to go to C&P instead of GT or St Als(which is shutting) cos of teh hurling being played there. Ballycatle & Loughgiel are reaping the rewards at juvenile due to work being done at C&P.

NA...glad to see you think highly of Brian Thompson...legend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 05, 2007, 12:17:31 PM
Garron Tower is a farce as well considering the good hurlers they've had down during the years. The coaches were & are still very poor. C & P are doing alot of work especially with this new project to be a sporting school of excellence??. Alot of the ones from C'dall are starting to go to C&P instead of GT or St Als(which is shutting) cos of teh hurling being played there. Ballycatle & Loughgiel are reaping the rewards at juvenile due to work being done at C&P.

NA...glad to see you think highly of Brian Thompson...legend

Its a bit too easy to blame the coaches all the time, Garron Tower have had some good hurlers over the years but they have never had 15 good enough ones. The last time GT were in a Mageean Final, 2 years ago i think they had a few lads, now on the Antrim panel, that didnt want to know against Maghera. I think last years win for CPC was their first in about 14-15 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 05, 2007, 12:35:34 PM
Agree with you Balboa that it takes 15 good enough players to win but they still had enough to challenge consistently, & that comes down to the coaching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 05, 2007, 12:35:34 PM
Agree with you Balboa that it takes 15 good enough players to win but they still had enough to challenge consistently, & that comes down to the coaching.

I agree with you to a certain extent but we have to accept that they are teachers first and coaches second, another factor i feel plays a part is for example if a player is involved with their club around this time school hurling will not be as intently focused on, which i have no problem with. Club first everything else second..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2007, 01:48:11 PM
Most the CPC coaches have been PE teachers or in Mickey Dallat's case Maths but he had zero interest in teaching so it was easy for them dedicate their time to coaching the teams. Brian Thompson spent more time hoking at his toes with his car keys than taking any hurling and about 90% of PE was 5-aside football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
What it says! Sat at the side of the sports hall during PE with his trainers and socks off gouging toejam from his toes. Nice! I think he had gangrene in his toes eventually and got a few removed. Really nice man though (for a Dall man!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2007, 02:17:41 PM
Developing talent at schools is important.

However for all St Mary's success from the late 90s / early 2000s it doesn't appear to have progressed Belfast hurling as much as you would have thought it would.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 05, 2007, 02:17:41 PM
Developing talent at schools is important.

However for all St Mary's success from the late 90s / early 2000s it doesn't appear to have progressed Belfast hurling as much as you would have thought it would.

I was going to mention that too, St Marys & Maghera have won the majority of Mageeans in last 15 years. Bar Derrys shock U-21 win this year it hasnt translated to club/county.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2007, 02:25:45 PM
I would attribute part of their success to their pick as well though.

St Pats Maghera has basically the whole of south derry plus more to be honest as you see dungiven and banagher boys at that school so in essence it has players from every hurling club in derry.

CBS probably has the pick of the Belfast clubs. There is La Salle and a few others that get small numbers of players.

Garron Tower really only has Cushendall ,and just for you Balboa, and Glenariff as hurling strongholds. You could argue small picks of Cushendun / Ballycastle. Cross and Passion would have Ballycastle and some of Loughgiel - though I've never heard of too many Dunloy boys there. St Louis should have Dunloy and Loughgiel and a few Cushendall ones. In each of those three schools you can see a split between clubs which you can't see anywhere near as much of in South Derry or Belfast.

However even so you would have expected more from the Belfast clubs with their schools success.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2007, 02:30:25 PM
Ah, no silage to cut or ewes to rear, that explains it...
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Post by: SimpleSimon on October 05, 2007, 05:06:44 PM
Max, where did you play that day against eion Kelly? I was play/there that day too! He was the best man on the field by a longshot and his free taking was unreal!
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Post by: slow corner back on October 05, 2007, 08:54:56 PM
With regard to CPC winnning one mageean in 15 years you have to remember that CPC is a comprehensive and most kids leave at 16 meaning the Mageean team is made up of about 5 18 yr olds 5 17 yr olds and the rest u-16. A serious disadvantage in under age hurling of any grade I remember loosing a mageean semi final to St Pats Armagh who could not hurl but were all built like brick shithouses and basically bullied our 16 yr olds on a pissing wet day in corrigan. Look at CPCs results at Forresters cup level and you will find they are there or thereabouts every year.
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Post by: ONeill on October 07, 2007, 05:35:45 PM
Loughgiel bridesmaids again.
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Post by: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 07:00:56 PM
They will have to find another forward or two to help Winker out or they will never win it.
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Post by: Guillem2 on October 07, 2007, 07:57:29 PM
They bottled it again. They started off very nervous as you would expect from a team who had lost 4 finals in a row but when they settled they pulled themselves into the game and went in at half time a point up.
In the second half Dunloy took every chance they got and Shamrock's didn't take theirs. Some of the misses were shocking!
Dunloy deserved to win on the day but it was also there for the taking for Loughgiel.
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Post by: orangeman on October 07, 2007, 08:47:38 PM
Well done to Dunloy - there'll be a lot of happy men in the village tonight - hard luck to Loughiel
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Post by: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on October 07, 2007, 07:57:29 PM
They bottled it again. They started off very nervous as you would expect from a team who had lost 4 finals in a row but when they settled they pulled themselves into the game and went in at half time a point up.
In the second half Dunloy took every chance they got and Shamrock's didn't take theirs. Some of the misses were shocking!
Dunloy deserved to win on the day but it was also there for the taking for Loughgiel.

I dont agree that they "bottled it", in the first half they were doing well to stick with Dunloy, and were doing so in the main with Watsons frees. Molloy nullified Watson in the 2nd half and Dunloy cut out the silly frees. At the end of the day Loughguile did not have the forwards to help Watson out, there was no way Watson was going to win the game on his own. Some of the Loughguile players seemed very young, Numbers 5, 7 & 12 seemed very light physically, and i suppose this experience will stand to them. Dunloy were getting their scores easier. How they kept Barney Mc Auley on Ally Elliott for so long was a mystery, you could see from the first couple of balls he was in trouble. Was impressed with Dunloys shooting, they hardly hit a wide. I actually thought Loughguile kept going well until the end, i dont think they fell down psychologically, they just didnt have the personnel. On a side issue i thought the two Dunloy supporters bringing on a large banner saying " 5 in a row, ha ha ha" was classy. That is the kind of soccer shite that should be stamped out of the GAA at every oppurtunity. Dunloy should not have too many problems in Ulster now. Some achievement from Dick, Ally winning 10 championships,was that Patch Mullans 10th too??
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Post by: orangeman on October 07, 2007, 08:56:54 PM
That banner was in very poor taste and I'd say that won't be the last you'll hear on that subject !
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Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 09:24:41 PM
Went up ro the football game and stayed to watch the hurling. I thought that L'gulie were unable to match Dunloy in the physical aspects of ball winning in the middle sector of the pitch. Even thou they still managed to be 1 up at half time. The trend continued in the second half with Watson now being man marked and with Dunloy dominating in the physical aspects they continued to be unable to get any quality ball in to their inside line. Physically the number 5 and 12 were very weak. Dunloy targetted the number 5 for most of their puck outs whilst he was on. Watson was a one man show and was easily for me the stand out player on the pitch from open play and frees. Dunloy were worth much more than their 1 goal win an why they took off Elliot with 5 minutes to go was very puzzling. The man marking him needs to learn to be nasty as nice corners backs get exactly he got today...cleaned out. The l'guile 3, 6 and 11 were very dominate, but in the cruil positions of 8 and 9 Dunloy lorded it. from watching the game L'guile will not win the title untill they have a more physically type of player introduced to their team.

Now this is only from a lad whose main interest is in football...so feel free to tell me to shut up.
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 07, 2007, 09:31:54 PM
Dont think Loughgiel bottled it today..they just werent good enough & thats cos they dont have the hurlers. One man show up front & relying heavily on Johnny Campbell who hurled well at the back. Other than the full back or Eddie McCloskey at midfield they were poor & depended heavily on Watson...who was very dangerous in the first half. Dunloy came out flying at the start of the second half & that was the differance especially when Ally Elliott got the goal

On the banner issue, maybe not right...but you could argue that the Loughiel supporter tooting their airhorns when the St Galls captain was making his speech completely out of order & showed a total lack of respect & most importantly manners!!
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Post by: Owenmoresider on October 07, 2007, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 08:55:06 PM
On a side issue i thought the two Dunloy supporters bringing on a large banner saying " 5 in a row, ha ha ha" was classy. That is the kind of soccer shite that should be stamped out of the GAA at every oppurtunity.
On that subject, I was looking at the website of St. Pat's (the Louth SFC champions), and I seen in their pictures on the onfield scenes after the game, a group of Pat's fans had this tribute to their neighbours Cooley (NB who haven't won it since 1990, do the maths):

(http://www.thepats.ie/images/Social/final07/picture%20005.jpg)
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Post by: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 09:46:30 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 07, 2007, 09:31:54 PM

On the banner issue, maybe not right...but you could argue that the Loughiel supporter tooting their airhorns when the St Galls captain was making his speech completely out of order & showed a total lack of respect & most importantly manners!!

The point i was making about the banner is it is the kind of shite you would see in an English football match, that somehow passes for humour. I wasnt bothered who won today but you have to feel sorry for fellas like Johhny Campbell, Winker etc that have been there for all 5, busting your balls from the new year every year and for it to end in defeat & 5 minutes after losing seeing two clowns that probably wouldnt know what end of a hurl to use coming on with a banner like that. Put it like this it has probably set a precedent & we will see more and more of it.
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Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2007, 01:29:36 AM
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)   hic


Just drinking my pint of water before bedtime whilst reading the comments. Encouraged by Max's contribution. Did you enjoy the game max? You never said?

Think most of the comments have been spot on. Absolute embarrassment for that banner to be brought onto the pitch. I can tell you that 99% of Dunloy folk are not best pleased about it. These eejits who never struck a ball in their lives doing shit like that........fecking doe heads the lot of them.

Feel a certain level of sympathy for loughguile. Its been a tough 5 years for them, but sympathy votes don't win championships  :-\. I'm sure they'll be as keen as ever next year
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Post by: Last Man on October 08, 2007, 09:23:30 AM
Havent seen L'giel this season prior to the final so was somewhat surprised by their performance. 3 or 4 scores from open play is an atrocious return for any forward line. The winker show on his own plus to a fair extent Campbell will never be enough to win them a championship. Dunloy were solid throughout, although I think they shouldn't have been sucked in by the 2 man forward line in the first half, I am sure that it was not a comfortable place to be for young Martin to be. He was outstanding though when dropped back to familiar territory in the 2nd half making a few crucial tackles and putting his head on the block literally when L'giel threatened. Their score was bolstered by a masterly display of free taking by Winker but Dick was also on form.
Great to see Patch, Ally and Dick getting their 10th medal at last, when you think back to to the days they were robbed over the last few years( Rossa assisted by E McHugh worst of all). The ould seasoned campaigners were the heros for Dunloy and inspired the rest of the team to turn in a great performance and take the well deserved win
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Post by: Balboa on October 08, 2007, 09:30:06 AM
Skull......I would have to commend you on that post if you were on the beer, no spelling errors. I would have been expecting something along the lines that North Antrim churns out on a regular basis.
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Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2007, 09:35:34 AM
Quote from: Balboa on October 08, 2007, 09:30:06 AM
Skull......I would have to commend you on that post if you were on the beer, no spelling errors. I would have been expecting something along the lines that North Antrim churns out on a regular basis.

Took me half an hour to write the bloody thing cause I know how you like the spelling to be right  ;)
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 08, 2007, 01:46:15 PM
Skull you got home early last night??
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 08, 2007, 01:57:27 PM
If Loughguile haven't got what it takes to win the championship (as stated here by some) how have they managed to get to the final five years in a row? You can get an easy ride to the final maybe once or twice but five in a row??
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 02:11:57 PM
Fair play to Dunloy they were a much better team and if it weren't for Watson they'd have won by a lot more. They were by far a more physical team and they had a better spread of forwards.

Loughgiel should have won the final last year and the year before. Mentally I think they lost these but yesterday they were beaten by a much better team.

Only Johnny Campbell, Eddie McCloskey and Liam Watson were up for the job and to a slightly lesser extent the full back McGarry. They were out hurled and out muscled everywhere else. Where they go from here I don't know but on that performance I'm not sure they have a county title in that bunch of players.

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Post by: Balboa on October 08, 2007, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 02:11:57 PM
Fair play to Dunloy they were a much better team and if it weren't for Watson they'd have won by a lot more. They were by far a more physical team and they had a better spread of forwards.

Loughgiel should have won the final last year and the year before. Mentally I think they lost these but yesterday they were beaten by a much better team.

Only Johnny Campbell, Eddie McCloskey and Liam Watson were up for the job and to a slightly lesser extent the full back McGarry. They were out hurled and out muscled everywhere else. Where they go from here I don't know but on that performance I'm not sure they have a county title in that bunch of players.


The one thing Loughguile have on their side is the current team are very young, with Ding Gillan probably the oldest at 29. Maybe the younger fellas that they had yesterday will progress and will develop physically, the Loughguile management saw this year as perhaps a bit early in their development to be winning a championship but obviously when you get to a final it is for winning. In any case they need to find/develop a couple of forwards in the next year or two.
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Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2007, 02:52:19 PM
good match, being young means nothing, the boys who did all the scoring are older than me (just) for dunloy.

the tactic of the two man fullforward line did not work in the first five minutes it should have been changed.

as said on this board leading up to the final, dunloy have a better attacking players, although Paddy richmond did not score, he set up a lot, Ally did his usual and Dick did not miss a free.

why they kept Barney on Ally was beyond me, Ally could have scored a goal after 30 seconds!

great speech by Dick after he match, hopefully they can go on again to another final. have watched all their semi finals and they very rarely let us down.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
They'd two minors in their forward line yesterday who I'd say will turn out to be very good but would need a year or two yet before they're at that level so I'd say you're right about the age thing. I'd definitely say 2 to 3 years before a title based on yesterday but they may surprise us.

You can say what you like about their supporters but you wouldn't wish losing 5 in a row on anyone.

Dunloy - Ballycran seems to be on this Sunday. I'd expect Dunloy to beat everything in Ulster handy enough now. People talk about Dungiven but unless they're improved a lot since last year where they battered their way to a draw with Cushendall I'd expect Dunloy to beat them handy enough.
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 08, 2007, 03:02:01 PM
Tommy...you said Loughgiel should have won the last two finals( 05 & 06) ok they threw away a huge lead last year but in 05 Cushendall totally dominated that match & it was only for some bad misses that they were still in the game

Authur, in 03 & 04 they beat Cushendall in the semi final, in 03 Cushendall were a total disaster & 04 wasnt much better. & the 3 years they played St Galls, the Johnies & Ballycastle....who arent good teams( and struggled against 2 belfast teams)
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
Sorry Ruairi - probably not giving you boys the credit you deserve there...

The first final against Cushendall maybe they didn't deserve to win but the second they switched off although great comeback by Cushendall. The two finals against Cushendall were really the only two they were close in.
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Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 08, 2007, 03:20:47 PM
To be fair to Loughgiel they were very good in 03 & could have won it there....that was a very good match against Dunloy.


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Post by: Balboa on October 08, 2007, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
Sorry Ruairi - probably not giving you boys the credit you deserve there...

The first final against Cushendall maybe they didn't deserve to win but the second they switched off although great comeback by Cushendall. The two finals against Cushendall were really the only two they were close in.

Their first final in 2003 against Dunloy there was only a point in it, a late winning free awarded by the boul Eugene Mc Hugh.
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Post by: Glensman on October 08, 2007, 06:49:06 PM
That Loughgeil were still in the game was more so to do with Dunloy switching off after 15 mins of the first half and again for a little period of the 2nd half. If Dunloy had've kept the momentum up they could have been out of sight. Ally was roasting Barney and should have been picked out more/constantly in the first half. Dick wasn't missing a thing and Paddy Richmond was beginning to exert a bit of influence.

Diasgree with an earlier comment by (not sure who) about McCloskey being alot better than Shields. McCloskey in all fairness to him stepped up a bit in the second half, especially the second half of it. Scored a good point and caught a couple of good balls anf brought the fight to Dunloy but though there was only a puck of the ball between them in the end I felt there was in reality a bit more of a gap and Dunloy could have shifted gear as and when.
Shields had played solidly throughout, without setting the world on fire, and aside from a couple of misplaced handpasses was as good as McCloskey.
They could be a future midfield pairing for the Saffrons.

Bringing on McGuckian was a great ploy by Dunloy and dropping Kevin Martin back at the start of the second half worked a treat.
Dunloy's bench is arguably as strong as it has been in my memory. Different options for different positions and decent enough strength in depth.
Cushendall faltered with having a weak enough bench (in my humble opinion) last year in the semi. When things got tough for them it should have been spiced up but they weren't able to. Increasingly its becoming a 17/18 man game.

I would argue that you can actually see a good balance of what the management were as players coming out in the team themselves. Pappy, Shane Elliot and Mushy all completely different styles and characters but a good mixture.

The standard of hurling was I felt pretty high. I hope Dunloy's well earned hangover will go shortly and they can get down to the real business. They will have to remember previous slip ups by Antrim teams in Ulster, hopefully get through that and whatever is thrown at them and then give the All Ireland a real good tilt.

Well done to Skull/Max P and any other Dunloy posters.

As regards the banner that came on the field it was pretty shocking but it must be remember there are clampets within every village/club. Given the nature of the rivalry, the build up etc ... its not condoning it in the slightest but a little bit of perspective should be used.

One further point was an incident which I spotted, not sure if anyone else on here saw. First half maybe 20 mins in. A Loughgeil player went to pick the ball up. Nothing wrong with the pick at all, maybe he could have bent his back a bit more. But as he picked it up and was about to catch it Martin Curry nipped in and caught the ball as if he's lifted it himself. Am guessing it was a spur of the moment thing and he hadn't practiced it but it was pure class.

Anyhow - its dinner time.
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Post by: North Antrim on October 08, 2007, 08:04:30 PM
Balboa......here goes... i hope my spelling is correct ::)

Congratulations to Dunloy - well deserved and thankfully stopped the shamrocks from winning. Thought they were the better team, who physically were bigger and stronger is the key areas. Couldnt believe Barney McAuley wasn't moved off Ally Elliot. Throws up the  question - is Barney really a county player??

Winker was a class act and if Loughgiel had of got more ball into him they could have sneaked it. They kept going for goals, which i felt if they had of put them over the bar it would have put the pressure on Dunloy more.

But overall enjoyed the final, better team won and was a really good match.

Where do Loughgiel go from here??
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Post by: Balboa on October 08, 2007, 08:35:20 PM
Big improvement North Antrim, your rest from the board has done you no harm  ;) Loughguile are probably in as good shape as anyone in Antrim in my opinion North Antrim. Dunloy will find it difficult/impossible to replace Ally & Dick when they finally pack it in, Loughguile seem to have that usual conveyor belt of talent but in fairness that does not guarantee senior success.
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Post by: NAG on October 09, 2007, 10:10:59 AM
Think the posts so far have been on the money.

Dont know what loughgiel have to do to win a final, its probably their best performance in a final since they played dunloy the last time. Their problem is obvious to everyone they need to get some help for winker. Thought the dunloy forward line completely bullied their opponents out of the game, when did u ever see a full forward completely shouldering a corner back out of the game like dick o'kane did to barney.

Have to say if thats what sambo regards as corner back of county standard then we are all in trouble.
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Post by: Balboa on October 09, 2007, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: NAG on October 09, 2007, 10:10:59 AM

Have to say if thats what sambo regards as corner back of county standard then we are all in trouble.

In fariness to him i think he was carrying an injury going into the game, in hindsight he maybe shouldnt have played. He was their best player last year when they collapsed against the Dall in the final.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2007, 11:15:09 AM
Barney has always been a loose ball player more than a man marker in my opinion so based on that he shouldn't have been detailed to mark Elliot but the other corner forward I thought. He was moved off Elliot in the second half.

Incidentally someone mentioned about Dick taking him out with a shoulder. IMO that was a shoulder in the back and should have been a free out. That passage of play led to Dunloy's goal. They still would have won like but I thought it was a free out.


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Post by: maxpower on October 09, 2007, 11:25:16 AM
Ah back at work for a half day now, head still pounding.  but shure

Was a bit dissapointed with the BBC news coverage of the match last night, typical of them to highlight the banner, they showed one scored but talked for about two minutes on a banner, as usual trying to make out the worst fo the GAA.  Okay it wasn't in the best taste and i certainly wouldn't be one for goading opponents but there has been a bit of an over reaction to it.  the two folk carrying it never even held a hurl and some one must of told them the shamrocks had lost five,

Most of the comments on here are spot on, felt Dunloy where the better team, with the better spread of scoring options.  Loughgiels two man full forward line worked a treat against Ballycastle because they had plenty of time on the ball to pick out the men in space, on Sunday Dunloys half backs, Midfield and Half Forwards worked like trojans to close that space down and so little to no ball got through.  In fact the only time they did break the 'Gain line' was with Winker carrying it and he was choosing to shoot rather than pass (and rightfully so in the form he was in)

Watched the DVD last night imtommygunn and pretty sure it was a shoulder to shoulder challange, would need to look at it again

I think the County should have a look at whether they persist with playing the Football & Hurling finals on the same day, i think the hurling men in the County would rather watch the Minor final than the football final and it would give the young lads a boost to play in front of a crowd like sundays.  By all accounts the minor hurling final this year was a classic, would have been good had such a crowd had watched it

Onwards to Ballycran now for Dunloy, didn't even know the match was fixed for this weekend until some one mentioned it on Saturday night, a small advantage to the crans already with the fixtures committee.  Ah sure we'll give it a lash now and see what happens
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Post by: Balboa on October 09, 2007, 11:32:12 AM
The only thing i would say about scheduling the minor match before the senior game is that Loughguile had 3 minors playing in the senior game.
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Post by: maxpower on October 09, 2007, 11:36:31 AM
suppose thats fair enough and the dall had a few minors playing the years they won the double too so probaly unworkable.  Just can't imagine folk from Cushendall or Loughgiel would have much interest in the football final or Portglenone in the huring final for that matter
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2007, 11:38:47 AM
If you play the football on it's own you'll not get a big crowd so it's really the only way to showpiece the football I think.

Personally I like the two finals on the one day.

The BBC , like is said in other threads, are a disgrace when it comes to GAA coverage. I was disappointed it wasn't on the TG4 show last night as, no harm, it would certainly have been better to watch than for example a sligo football final!
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Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 09, 2007, 11:52:12 AM
" Just can't imagine folk from Cushendall or Loughgiel would have much interest in the football final or Portglenone in the huring final for that matter "

Well im a football man and was only ever at 1 game of hurling ever and i have to say it was brilliant entertainment. from watching on TV it was always obvious the difference in speed and skill beteween the 2, but to witness from the stand in casement was something else. i didnt know anybody involved so i cant get involved in any debate about who should be marking who and who the county men should or shouldn't be, but i would certainly go back and will go to the ulster final no doubt. i wouldnt blame loughuile or dunloy men not wanting to watch the football but i would say portglenone men who stayed would have enjoyed that. super stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2007, 12:20:17 PM
When you see the two sports side by side you really do have to wonder why football is the more dominant sport?? Christ the football final was shocking!!
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Post by: milltown row on October 09, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
have to agree as did everyone from our club that the football was shocking, and the football should always be first.

on another note i thought that both referees played well and let the games go for as much as they could. no bad calls that would have chaged the games either.

also i hear no complaints about taking the finals out of casement either. thought there were not too many incidents, bar the 5 in a row banner. think i saw Cassidy go over and ask the lads to take it down, which they did.

think Ballycran will go for it as they have nothing to lose, they beat a ballygalget team whom i'm sure someone from dunloy will back up have played really well this year in the league, they have been the best team we have played in the league this year.

ballycran however have only won their first match last week against Lamhs but proved in the county final to be handy enough.

expect Dungiven to be tough but will not be able to stop Dunloy (if they beat Ballycran) in the final.

it's either Munster or lenister for the winners of Ulster Hurling as Cusendall played the Galway Champions last year


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 09, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
Never have I seen the gulf between the two sports look so vast as it did on Sunday. I always say it and get shouted down by real football heads but there is simply NO comparison.
Football is a good game, hurling is a great game.

Why is it?
Faster?
More skills?
More scores?
Less off the ball stuff/pulling dragging etc. (It was funny in the hurling on Sunday, there was a little bit of niggle at the start of the first half, each man no doubt trying to assert his authority but was soon forgotten as the pace of the game took over...whereas with players standing around more in the football, nothing in their hands to keep them occupied like a hurl, there is that potential for things to spill over more)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2007, 05:27:17 PM
To be fair though you had two reasonably evenly matched teams in the hurling whereas the football was in essence a mismatch. Last year's football final was good.

No doubt that hurling in antrim is of a much higher standard than the football though. We may be a bit off some southern counties but we still have a high standard here and on the form Watson was in Sunday he would make teams anywhere. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 10, 2007, 08:25:29 AM
thats slighty unfair  imtommygunn (hurling at a higher standard), as Naomh Gall have always made a good stab at wining the ulster championship, and by all accounts i'd say most teams would prefer another county than ours in the draw. the football in Ulster is a lot more exciting than last sunday's game. in the five years that we have been there, there has only be one season were we fell at the first match. some went to replys and others further on down.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 10, 2007, 09:21:00 AM
Is it difficult to compare both sports alright. Think its unfair on St Galls to just dismiss them, if they had of been playing cargin im sure there would have been more of an edge to the game and therefore would have made it worth watching.

Think because of the rivalry and the pace of the hurling no one could take their eyes of the game for a second. There was so much going on all over the pitch on and off the ball was so interesting. I actually saw the Loughgiel full back line and goal keeper attempting to intimidate a Dunloy full foward of Ally Elliott Greg O'Kane and Conor Cunning. No IMO is that not a total was of time and energy even to start this against players who have been there and won it numerous times between them, a point which I think was made to the Loughgiel men during their failed attempts.

Further out the field looking at the game in the cold light of day, the switch of M.Curry to midfield and M Molloy back to centre half was the winning of the game for Dunloy. They are still appearing to have trouble in that middle sector and Curry stiffed it up and cleared a serious amount of ball at a crucial time.

Loughgiel did clear alot of ball from their half back line through Johnny Campbell thought both richmonds were held very quiet throughout. Liam came into the game strongly though in the last sector which was crucial.

When Dunloy hurled at the high tempo loughgiel looked as iff they couldnt deal with it in any shape or form. I dont think loughgiels future is getting any brighter to be honest, they are putting all their eggs in the same basket and until they get some help for Watson they will win nothing. The players they are bringing through at the moment all seem to be of the same kind of standard, lovely stick work and good hurlers but not at the races when the going was getting tough, maybe be harsh but its my opinion.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2007, 09:41:15 AM
Granted st galls are at a high level milltown but in broader terms i don't think it's unfair - they have a very high standard but i don't see any other  clubs realistically at a very high level whereas loughgiel, cushendall and dunloy are all at a very high standard in the hurling.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 10, 2007, 11:28:33 AM
Not sure that I agree totally that the big 3 are showing us a high standard of hurling,  comparatively with the rest of Ulster no doubt they are but they have a bit to go lift an AI. There has been a lot of poor enough hurling this season from all 3 and I'm sure even Dunloy would say they are far from the finished article and certainly not at mid 90's level just yet. This certainly isn't for the want of trying by them but there comes a point where the standard of the competition drops so badly even the top teams suffer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 10, 2007, 12:38:35 PM
There wasn't many good matches this year..maybe Dunloy V Cushendall in the semi & obviously the final were good matches. The rest were poor enough cos of the 1 sided scorelines due to the structure of the championships
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2007, 01:57:35 PM
Whenever Dunloy were getting to AI finals and winning the championship year on year, people we complaining at that time that the quality of hurling in Antrim had dropped so to a certain extent these things can be a bit subjective. I think hurling wise this should have been a pretty good year for all clubs when you look at this years fixtures compared to previous years( although I hear div 2 wasn't good this year). No starred matches, most league games played in the summer months instead of cramming in 4-5 matches in Oct/Nov to get the league finished. Dunloy attendances are up this year as well and I would put that down to the regular schedule of matches. If they keep the fixtures as regular as they did this year then I'm sure standards as well as interest levels will improve year on year.  Would love to see St Johns, Rossa, Ballycastle, St Galls Glenariff up their game. It can only be good for hurling to see more strong sides compete for top honours 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 10, 2007, 04:10:50 PM
I have to agree with theskull, maybe Dunloy felt the benefit of it most but this year has certainly been a vast improvement on the previous few years in terms of fixtures.  The county board deserve a bit of  credit this time as do the county managers Sambo & Woody.

When they first where introduced i had real fears about the club scene as the minors seemed to get very few club games when they were in charge, but skull can correct me if i'm wrong here but i think Sunday was our 26th game this year, hell of an improvement on previous years

In fairness the Ulster league played its part too and i hope the value of it is not diminished by crazy scheduling sometime in December, i have a feeling it could be under lights some friday night, i certainly wouldn't be opposed to that as i throughly enjoyed the intermediate final under lights
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on October 10, 2007, 05:40:15 PM
have to agree with both Skull & Max, This is the main way forward, its simple, no matter what else we do, if we dont play the games we cant improve.

But i do disagree that this was mainly down to the County Board and management, from what i know it was mainly down to Dunloy themselves who fixed matches and to me this is the main reason why they won the SHC this year.

was talking to a C'dall player and he said from the start of the SHC league section at end of July they had 1 league game and that was against portaferry the week before the Dunloy game. not sure about other teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on October 10, 2007, 06:57:45 PM
There is no doubt that the league situation has improved this season and the Ulster league has a place now too.
I've heard a few hot heads calling for all the Down clubs to be expelled from the Antrim leagues because of the actions of the Down delegates at the Special Congress. I must say I think that would be maddness - complete own goal. The 3 Ards clubs have played in our league for 50 years and Div 1 and Reserves would be f*cked without them. So let's knock this one on the head before it starts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 10, 2007, 10:41:57 PM
Cushendall will be kicking themselves on the stance they took on the UHL but it also looked like Dunloy were going to follow suit at an early stage but thankfully for them they relented. Would say that the no. of games Dunloy has had this year will have contributed to a very healthy panel. The fringe players will have got their chance here and there instead of training all year for splinters in their arse, this will have the regulars on their toes also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 11, 2007, 09:43:24 AM
In fairness Cushendall decided not to enter because they knew their season was lasting until at least the middle of February & maybe March 17th and the players would have needed a rest, its ok looking back now with hindsight & at the end of the day there was only a point difference between Cushendall & Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2007, 09:53:11 AM
Yeah...Dunloy and the Dall were in very different situations, so I can see why both made the decisions they did. Theres every chance though that we would have beat them with them having played in the UHL and sure you know that having played in the UHL would have been used as the excuse, so you can't have it both ways
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on October 11, 2007, 09:59:55 AM
i dont belive that the Dall have made any excuse's for getting beat,  they know the better team on the day won. they have a fair idea to some of the reasons why they didnt perform on the day and got beat.

Dunloy looked sharpe in both games and IMO this was down to their desire to win and the amount of games they played this year compared to others.

every team in the county needs games and meaningful games at that if things are going to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 11, 2007, 12:26:11 PM
Last Man..I know for sure that Cushendall are not kicking themselves about not playing in the Ulster league. We were hurling til February & we also had at least 8/9 on the county panel at differant times. I remember on this board about Cushendall only having 3/4 senior hurlers at training due to county seniors/minors training & injuries...so there's no way we could played in the ulster league. Cushendall were beat cos Dunloy were the hungrier team & better on the day..not cos of the Ulster league

Skull, I know it worked for Dunloy, just wondering did Dunloy have their county players for many matches in the group stages??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 11, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
Ruairi Og, i accept that the UHL wasn't for the Dall this year, it wasn't the be all and end all for our preparations but the games against Ballycastle and St Johns in the latter stages were important.  Not lest because we played poorly and addressed some issues.

At the beginning of the year we had far from a settled team, in the UHL especially many players were given a chance but we always had a few county men out, our managers used the league very well indeed and deserve immense credit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2007, 12:37:56 PM
extra games worked out well for some clubs, our club,although we only won two games (the derry teams) and drew with Ballygalget thought that it was good for our fringe players who played most games.

they got to play against quality teams that they would not have normaly played against.

think if they fixed the dates of the Ulster league so that it was played before our own antrim leagues start up then it would get proper attention. trying to play it round the antrim leagues on a  saturday night was madness.

some hurlers in our club have played 35 competitive games of hurling this year. compare that to last years 12 games then thats a dramatic improvement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 11, 2007, 04:58:39 PM

have to totally dissagree with the fixtures this year. maybe div 1 was played week in week out, but further down in other leagues your lucky to get a match a month. there has been no consistancy. having no match for 5/6 weeks before the championship is not on!! the fixtures should be set out so that you have a game every sunday, this did not happen. also fixing matches for saturday is a joke, as boys work on saturdays! it is obvious that the fixtures this year have not worked because if you look at the fixtures set out this weekend there is matches fixed for saturday and sunday, some clubs having to play both days in different codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 11, 2007, 05:40:05 PM
Div 1. did work this year, the lower leagues did not but I'd say that was down to the CCc placing most of their focus on Div.1 due to the scepticism from the top clubs at the start of last year that they could make it work. At least it shows they should be able to apply the formula to the lower leagues. Sorting fixtures for dual clubs will always be a problem and I don't think there is an answer. Ultimately players will have to pick their favourite code and get on with it. Dual players are in the minority these days anyway and can't really expect to dictate. Expecting Sundays to be the only match day is not workable either, I wouldn't like to be scheduling games under such tight constraints.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 11, 2007, 09:27:37 PM
I would no go along with the idea that the fixtures were considerably better than other years, we had a burst of about 5 games in two weeks (Sundays & Wednesday) then went about 5 weeks without a game before the chanpionship. Also the timing of the group championship matches for 6.30 on a Wednesday night when fellas are trying to get home from work was the biggest pile of shite they have come up with in a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2007, 09:55:39 PM
You must have had a totally different fixture list to Dunloy Rocky because ours was very evenly spead out
April     4 Games
May      6
June     4
July       5
Aug       3
Sept      3
Oct       1 so far

14 Matches played on Sunday, 5 on Saturday and the rest Mid week. I'd say we have played nearly 3 times as many matches this year compared to last year. Now thats not bad and the County Board along with the County Management deserve alot of credit IMO (I don't expect you to agree on the latter  ;))
I thought everybody was benefiting from the fixtures this year? :-\
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Post by: Bacon on October 11, 2007, 09:59:25 PM
Do those figures include the UHL which Dunloy didn't enter last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 11, 2007, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2007, 09:55:39 PM
You must have had a totally different fixture list to Dunloy Rocky because ours was very evenly spead out
April     4 Games
May      6
June     4
July       5
Aug       3
Sept      3
Oct       1 so far

14 Matches played on Sunday, 5 on Saturday and the rest Mid week. I'd say we have played nearly 3 times as many matches this year compared to last year. Now thats not bad and the County Board along with the County Management deserve alot of credit IMO (I don't expect you to agree on the latter  ;))
I thought everybody was benefiting from the fixtures this year? :-\

I agree there have been plenty of games but they just seemed to be coming thick and fast then a month with no games, we would have a fairly small panel so we were pretty stretched at times, i know, im never happy !  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 12, 2007, 08:43:10 AM
IMO fixtures have been a big improvement this year so credit to those in charge especially the CCC and Joe Edwards.  They have laid a marker down and I for one hope to see them there next year as they have made superb job in their first year.  Lets hope they can build on it.


Skull, you said you heard Div 2 wasn;t a success which I must say surprised me- what was this based on?  Most teams in Div 2 had 90% of their games played before the championship in August and the winners, Glenarm were confirmed last weekend which is pretty good in my book. It was a very competitive league all be it there could be room for a couple more games in it.  The IHC was a very open competition with about 6 or 7 teams fancying their chances at the outset and any team could beat any other on their day.

As a complete aside, does anyone think there has been a noticebale improvement in player discipline in Antrim  this year?  I attended all the IHC and SHC semi finals and finals and there was barely an incident of note.  Good to see and again some credit for this must be down to the referees and the disciplinary committee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2007, 09:21:42 AM
Yeah..I just heard some griping that a few more games would have been better but yes I hear that the IHC was competitive this year. With dual clubs though that may not be so easy so I wonder do hurling only clubs need to fill in the gaps themselves just to keep them hurling. Now that links have been established with teams throughout ulster, maybe a game or two with these clubs when needs must might help the situation rather than rely on the county fixtures to be the answer to everyones requirements.

Question......are there any current IHC clubs with senior aspirations or has the AI IHC created a glass ceiling for all these clubs that they don't want to go through?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
In light of the recent debate regarding the GPA strike threat and continuing debate in the Irish with Heaney and McNulty. I'd like to know what is the feeling among the posters on this site.

Is the GPA right, are they elitist, are they really just looking after their own, and forgetting about the club players who pay in to watch them play?
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Post by: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 09:38:09 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 12, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
In light of the recent debate regarding the GPA strike threat and continuing debate in the Irish with Heaney and McNulty. I'd like to know what is the feeling among the posters on this site.

Is the GPA right, are they elitist, are they really just looking after their own, and forgetting about the club players who pay in to watch them play?


Lone Shark has said it better than i could, this is from the "Players To Strike" thread on main Gaa Discussion.....

I don't understand why nobody does the obvious and pins the GPA down. There are so many questions that they couldn't answer, and yet no-one asks them. Why are the media giving Dessie and co such an easy ride?

Some examples being....

(1) What assurances can you give that should the government pull the funding, or refuse to increase it in line with inflation, you will not ask the GAA to make up the shortfall?

(2) The expenses are recompense for your members claiming that they are out of pocket. How do you propose that players substantiate this? Or do you consider it fair that a teacher, who is not out of pocket at all, be given the same compensation as a tradesman who could potentially earn thousands in the time he spends training?

(3) What do you propose to do with the inevitable follow on claims from ladies footballers and camogie players? Do you think they should receive the same, or will you stand up and claim that ye train way harder than they do and that they should get nothing?

(4) The government will set a limit per panel - what is the GPA's line on who these recipients should be? Who gets the grant - they guy who joins the panel in December but is cut in April, or the guy who was in Australia for the year but came back in late march?

(5) If ye go on strike, what will be your view towards club players who choose to take their chance to play for the county in ye're stead? Ye can hardly complain that these "pass the picket" as it were, since ye don't even allow these guys full membership of the union in the first place....

(6) Will your strike include all GAA games, or will players merely pick and choose the elements that suit them? Will Ben O'Connor's strike include Newtownshandrum's likely Munster and All Ireland campaign, or will it just be the Cork games in the winter that have no medals on offer? Ditto Aaron Kernan for Crossmaglen, or Cha Fitz for Ballyhale? (Not meant as a slight on any of these players, merely the obvious examples)


I'm sure there's more. As I mentioned before, I've emailed the GPA asking about all these things - needless to say I got no answer. If some journalist with better access is reading, I'd love if you could take up the torch.....
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Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2007, 10:06:47 AM
I had to laugh at McNulty's piece in yesterdays IN. He is so far off the mark it's unreal. The bit about the money not being enough to cover a players hydration requirements...ffs does a club player not need hydration :-\ :-\?  And also...club players don't have this "dual commitment"....oh right so the grants will look after dual club players as well once somebody informs Enda that he is wrong? He never attacked head on the issue about the countless hours of effort put in by so many volunteers and explained why county players be treated differently in terms of getting paid to play their part in the GAA.

A real joke of a piece and just hardened my already militant view of these scumbags. Their greed is seriously blinding their ability to see the damage which payment to players would cause
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 10:13:49 AM
At least Mc Conville, in saying that he wouldnt agree with a strike, and a few of the lads have realised the stance that is becoming more and more prevalent among people, ie f*ck them. Inter county players have never been looked after better, training gear, meals, expenses, team holiday for many of them. Fellas like Mc Nulty are only involved to line their own pockets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 12, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2007, 09:21:42 AM


Question......are there any current IHC clubs with senior aspirations or has the AI IHC created a glass ceiling for all these clubs that they don't want to go through?

Well cushendun won the IHC and i think its fair to say they won with a team made up mainly of players that had them in Div 1 for a fair few years. And they were competitive in Div 1, more so than a  lot of the current 'second tier' teams in Div 1.  I would be surprised if they had any aspirations of senior again at this stage although the St Brendans outfit will help them.

Glenarm won Div 2 but are way off senior status IMO.  Classic case of a few decent hurlers but too many passengers.  they would be mad to go into Div 1 and you only need to look at what it did to Sarsfields this year.  Sars thought that because they were playing Div 1 hurling they would automatically be better  and would win the IHC at a canter but they found out that Div 1 hurling only improves you if you are competitive.  Nothing to be learned from weekly hammerings.

The only team that may have aspirations at Div 1 is Clooney Gaels but I don;t know enough about them.  Fair to say they beat C'dall in the under 21 and that thye lost narrowly to C'dun in the IHC, C'dun going on to win it.

I also thought Gort na Mona would have Div 1 aspirations but they seemed to concentrate on the football this year.

In summary, its more likely that some Div 1 clubs would have Div 2 aspirations than vice versa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 12, 2007, 10:34:40 AM
don't support them at all, if the effort to play inter county is too much for the rewards they get (gear, mileage, adulation, commerical oppurtunities) then stand aside, someone will take up the jersey.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2007, 10:37:35 AM
I umpired a couple of the ihc games that Cushendun were in and it was brutal, if they were to go for senior i would imagine that they would learn nothing from it at all. Glenarm to move up to senior next year? i'm sure they will want to, as i'm not sure i can remember the last time they were there and it would mean a great deal to the club.

the only team that can sustain a year in Div 1 hurling would be St Pauls, or Gort na mona. as they would push 2nd tier teams in div 1, not sure about Clooney Gaels, our second team beat them a couple of seasons ago.

regarding the GPA my view is that they are money grabbing arseholes.

if they did a national vote with all paid up members of clubs (not just the GPA members) then they would get no support. i'd like them to put that to a vote
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2007, 10:50:08 AM
Cheers podge...you have confirmed my fears. Outside 5/6 clubs there doesn't appear to be any real ambition to reach the "Top" level. The AI series for both junior and intermediate appears to be where most clubs are aiming. How do were expect standards to improve if most teams don't possess the ambition to reach the top tier. Something which really needs to be address IMO. Does anyone have any bright ideas?


Quote from: maxpower on October 12, 2007, 10:34:40 AM
don't support them at all, if the effort to play inter county is too much for the rewards they get (gear, mileage, adulation, commerical oppurtunities) then stand aside, someone will take up the jersey.

Agreed...though I think it would help if there was a limit set on the number of county sessions each county could have (difficult to monitor maybe but ...). The training commitments in most counties are getting out of hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2007, 01:18:06 PM
in today's irish news the Glenullin manager says that playin in (and winning) the ulster league this year is the main reason that they are in the final, so there has be something said for the ulster leagues in both football and hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2007, 01:18:06 PM
in today's irish news the Glenullin manager says that playin in (and winning) the ulster league this year is the main reason that they are in the final, so there has be something said for the ulster leagues in both football and hurling

Im sure someone will correct me in the unlikely event that i am wrong  ;) but i think the Football was run off earlier in the year so would have been of benefit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 12, 2007, 01:48:56 PM
Yes winning last years Ulster league definately helped Loughgiel in the 1st half of last years county final ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 12, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
Lads
Lets face it the ulster league didnt provide to many quality games?
Yes the number of games went up and that was a good thing, but if we get our own leagues sorted properly then we could have this year in and yeat out without the ulster leage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 02:19:55 PM
RuairiOg....There seems to be a bit of s*itstirring on Hogan Stand about a fallout in the Dall,i take it someone is just mixing? Elliott going to Cushendun, Graffin & Magill to Rossa, Scullion to Glenariffe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 12, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Balboa..read that myself. It's a pile of shite. There was fall out at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on October 12, 2007, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 02:19:55 PM
RuairiOg....There seems to be a bit of s*itstirring on Hogan Stand about a fallout in the Dall,i take it someone is just mixing? Elliott going to Cushendun, Graffin & Magill to Rossa, Scullion to Glenariffe.

A load of b******ks obviously, as most of the stuff on hoganstand is, but why in this earth, if for arguments sake would Graffin & Magill go to Rossa if a situation ever arose. laughable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on October 12, 2007, 03:17:54 PM
Somebody is stirring the brown stuff alright !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on October 12, 2007, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 12, 2007, 02:19:55 PM
RuairiOg....There seems to be a bit of s*itstirring on Hogan Stand about a fallout in the Dall,i take it someone is just mixing? Elliott going to Cushendun, Graffin & Magill to Rossa, Scullion to Glenariffe.

A load of b******ks obviously, as most of the stuff on hoganstand is, but why in this earth, if for arguments sake would Graffin & Magill go to Rossa if a situation ever arose. laughable.

Probably because they are studying in Belfast & Scullion lives in Glenariffe,but as was said before it is someone that has got their homework done early this weekend and has a bit of spare time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 15, 2007, 08:50:59 AM
any match reports from yesterdays game Skull/max?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 15, 2007, 09:19:17 AM
Was in casment yesterday and looked like Dunloy's players had all been suffering with a severe hang over.

Fair play to Ballycran they were very mobile all over the field. Tactically I think Dunloy were sold a pup, the move of Molloy to centre half back fired big time, he is normally an accomplished half back but was ripped asunder by the Ballycran 11 who moved him around a good bit. Dunloy's half back line got completely wiped out and pretty much roasted, they actually took Patch Mullan off but it could have been any of them thought Shivers would have gone with him, he is very weak under a dropping ball for a half back.

Ballycran's midfield totally dominated the break ball, dunloy's midfield was very poor and gave little coverage to their defence and this led to ballycran getting good quality ball to their forwards. At numerous times throughout the game M Curry and P Shields were 30 yards from their men.

Up front apart from Ally in the first half no one even looked like a forward. D Quinn won one ball in the whole of the game. Second half C McGuckian and G O'Kane got into the game and just about saved dunloy's bacon, G O'Kane was cute enough to set up the goal which mc guckian fired home well.

All in all ballycran shwoed themselves to be a very competent team, they must have created 8-10 goal chances without fear of contradiction. The only thing they will be disappointed is that they didnt take more of them and they would in the Ulster final this morning. However is probably the only ever day that they are going to catch Dunloy on such a bad day with so many of their players playing so poorly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 15, 2007, 10:01:41 AM
cheers NAG. couldn't find ulster club Championship, hardstation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 15, 2007, 10:36:13 AM
Definitely a bad day at the office for Dunloy, the session at the weekend could have been partly to blame but they were maybe too complacent also, sure wasn't everyone. The Crans half forwards pulling out to the midfield really seemed to unsettle the Dunloy half backs as they were left marking spaces then they had difficulty regrouping and picking up runners when the crans attacked. I agree any of the half backs could have been subbed but suppose patch will be singled out because of the perception he is getting on a bit.
(I'll bet we see a MOTM performance from him next day out). The scores Ally took in the first half were a joy to watch, if he was born in Killkenny or Cork how many Allstars would he have by now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2007, 06:50:05 PM
Someone do me a favour and fire up the Hurling League tables from the Antrim website. Can't access it at work here.

www.antrimgaa.net

Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on October 15, 2007, 06:52:46 PM
Must be down Glensman, I cant access the site either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on October 15, 2007, 07:00:05 PM
I still cant get into it, comes up as done but the page is blank  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on October 15, 2007, 07:05:11 PM
I am a blow in to Down born in Cushendall, long story
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on October 15, 2007, 07:24:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2007, 07:12:03 PM
Gutted! Your aul pair on holiday?
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2007, 07:31:37 PM
Yes please...Div 3 as well Hardstation. Thanks.

Its not the website, its the computer at work. Lets me access the site grand but not the fixtures/tables section.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
Cheers Hardstation.

Anyone clarify what the story is with promotion/relegation then?
Thanks.
Full of requests today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2007, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2007, 08:33:56 PM
Bottom down, top up - end of story.
The bold bit is the moderator's reply.
Skull has some rows with them. They are cheeky feckers though!
;D
Cheeky arrogant feckers they are.........who, because they always have the power to have the final say, try and make you look as big a tube as possible without ever having a proper debate. I like to think I'm planting seeds but I'm not so sure the minds are fertile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 16, 2007, 08:49:41 AM
Have to say that's a pretty poor reply from them.

On reading the website people have been asking for weeks about what the promotion/relegation status is. Its obviously pretty important to some people with the fear of relegation looming and potential promotion.

They come back with that one liner "Bottom down, top up - end of story.". I have made simple suggestions/asked questions on there in the past and been shot down, told to go to a part of the website that doesn't exist/doesn't work or told off in a manner my mother wouldn't even contemplate. Its a decent site but I can't be arsed asking questions on there any more.
They have the power to veto comments and pick and choose which they let one. They appear to let all on (and of course will come back with the "we are fair" line) but then immediately dismiss/belittle the posters. They could use a bit more common sense, not let some posts through and then answer in a non condescending manner. It would make the guestbook alot better and would avoid entering into Hoganstand-esque debate. Those who don't have serious suggestions/make personal remarks would lose interest quickly enough.

Thanks for the answers to the queries Hardstation - you are my new go to man for queries. Please feel free to tell me off if they are silly - I am used to it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2007, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
Figures = Played and Points
Dunloy  10  18
Loughgiel Shamrocks  9  17
Portaferry  11  14
Ballycastle  11  13
Cushendall  10  12
Ballygalget  9  11
St. Johns  10  11
St. Galls  10  9
Glenariff  10  8
Rossa  8  5
Ballycran  10  4
Lamh Dhearg  8  2
Sarsfields  8  0


We've another two points in the bag since the paddies never turned up on saturday. 
Only Rossa and Ballycran left for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 16, 2007, 09:23:22 AM
Have youse ever dipped your toe into the North Antrim Website? In particular the Admin replies, they are comedy gold, sometimes i think an 8 year old looks after that site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2007, 09:48:19 AM
Quote from: Balboa on October 16, 2007, 09:23:22 AM
Have youse ever dipped your toe into the North Antrim Website? In particular the Admin replies, they are comedy gold, sometimes i think an 8 year old looks after that site.

It would seem that the Antrim and N Antrim admins swam in the same gene pool. They do let a lot of shite to get posted up on the N Antrim site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 16, 2007, 11:17:21 AM
I see we are down to play Rossa this Sunday in league, then finishing off our campaign with Lamh Dhearg in November. In fairness these games couldnt have been played any earlier as ourselves and Rossa were in the Antrim Final, oh shit thats right we werent........Im sure there is a good reason though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 16, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
i'm going to hit the antrim board in a minute as they have fixed us, get this, for senior football and div 3 on saturday and on sunday we have senior hurling and reserve.

what is the rush now in getting the games completed? our lads on the 4th of november are trying to represent antrim in the ulster (as is dunloy on both fronts, fair play) football championship and they have us fixed in for a double over this weekend. we have at least 10 players who play for both teams, starters i may add for the senior football team.

i think it's about time they had a one way league for the football. there are only about 6 clubs which are single codes the rest play both at some level. for a county that is shite at football we persist with football overload and we are getting worse at it.

beware what you say about the county website as they have people reading this site all the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on October 16, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
milltown row - we're playing you guys up in milltown on sunday. Have you heard what time the match is at? Hope we can fix it for a decent time and maybe catch the Dun/Cran match afterwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 16, 2007, 12:37:08 PM
games are at 1.30 and and 3.00pm

think ballycran played their match and will be beaten by 7/8 points this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 09:24:57 AM
 :o :o

Was chatting to a fellow last night who was chatting a county player. Told him that they had lost their membership of fitness first because the county won't pony up the funds. Now at this stage that is only a rumour and don't wish to state that this is a fact, but that is quite unbelievable (especially when you consider the money the would have pulled in from corporate events and championship games) if ture.  Hopefully there is another explanation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 09:24:57 AM
:o :o

Was chatting to a fellow last night who was chatting a county player. Told him that they had lost their membership of fitness first because the county won't pony up the funds. Now at this stage that is only a rumour and don't wish to state that this is a fact, but that is quite unbelievable (especially when you consider the money the would have pulled in from corporate events and championship games) if ture.  Hopefully there is another explanation

I hope you are not looking for a smoking gun when there isnt one Skull.........  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 09:36:42 AM
 :) :)

You saved that one for a rainy day....thats kinda sweet  :-*

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 09:40:06 AM
I wouldnt be surprised to tell you the truth if it was true though. You hear things like that and then we wonder why we dont compete down south, some things change and some things remain the same........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2007, 09:43:11 AM
You didn't ever need Fitness First, Balboa.
Loads of steps.
Donnelly's butchers, Ballycastle.
Go up a mountain somewhere when it's snowing and lift logs.

There is a good beach in Waterfoot, then i just run up Lurig mountain with a bull on my back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2007, 09:48:21 AM
I'm sure the county board could stretch to buying a couple of bulls.
Fitness First, with their central heating and Ricki Lake on the tv. No wonder we get hammered!
A bunch of fruits playing these days.

In fairness they had fitness first membership a couple of years ago and half them didnt use it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2007, 09:43:11 AM
You didn't ever need Fitness First, Balboa.
Loads of steps.
Donnelly's butchers, Ballycastle.
Go up a mountain somewhere when it's snowing and lift logs.

Was Donnelly's butchers in Rocky 4? There you go...never knew that :)
Title: Re: Gym membership
Post by: Last Man on October 17, 2007, 09:51:35 AM
Very worrying if that is the case. As a comparison in Tyrone certainly last season, don't know about this one, gym membership was never an issue as players were expected to do so much on their own, they were sent home with crates of Rockwell and Lucozade sport after training sessions, players had so much kit they didn't know what to do with it! In Armagh if a players local gym didn't have the proper free weights gear it was sorted by the board. Even Tyrone's over 40s masters football is all funded by the county, thats kits, balls, buses, meals, the lot.
I know this is still only speculation but there is no smoke without fire given the various training initiatives the county has pulled the plug on over the last few years. I think McSparron should initiate a financial review of the County board and how it is administered,
by an independent consultant( if such a thing could be found). That report would make some reading.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 17, 2007, 09:51:35 AM
I know this is still only speculation but there is no smoke without fire given the various training initiatives the county has pulled the plug on over the last few years. I think McSparron should initiate a financial review of the County board and how it is administered,
by an independent consultant( if such a thing could be found). That report would make some reading.

What worries me is that no one at that level ever seems to want to put a tighter hold on the finances coming in. The same boys week in week out collecting money at gates without any traceability. Now if I were one of those boys I would be demanding that there were ways of tracing what went through the turnstiles and what was collected...too ensure septics like me wouldn't be able to question my integrity as a gate collector.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 17, 2007, 10:20:35 AM
I accept that it is not straightforward considering the concessions for kids, oaps etc, nor would I directly call into question the integrity of any of the stewards but experience tells you with some people, give them an inch and they will take a mile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
I think it was the Clare match this year i was walking in and a steward opened a gate and let about 15 of his mates in, in fairness you see this at every match in Casement. All it takes is a nod and a wink and the gate is opened. As regards the gym membership, are our fella relly willing to embrace what is needed to be atop inter county athlete, there are too many of them are just interested in the recognition that goes with being an inter county player, the gear, getting the name in the paper but are not willing to take it as seriously the way teams down south and football teams like Tyrone and Armagh do up here. I remember a story i heard when Dinny Cahill was the manager, and this is before the arse fell out of it with Cahill, a prominent player (still playing) did not train one night because he was playing in a golf tournament in Cushendall that evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 17, 2007, 11:22:54 AM
I agree some players rip the hole out of it, where it's all about look at me, I play for the county. But if the county board could find the resources in place as per the top performing counties, look after the players properly but also set targets, the slackers would be found out and hopefully dropped to give someone a chance that it means something to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 17, 2007, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
...too ensure septics like me

I'm assuming that's a typo skull!

As for the gate money issue, it's alive and well in every county and if you ask about receipts being issued at gates etc you'll get the old VAT thing thrown back at you.
The biscuit tin accountants are still alive and well at all levels of the GAA and whilst this is the case there will always be clouds of suspicion surrounding gatemen and anyone handling finances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 16, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
i'm going to hit the antrim board in a minute as they have fixed us, get this, for senior football and div 3 on saturday and on sunday we have senior hurling and reserve.

what is the rush now in getting the games completed? our lads on the 4th of november are trying to represent antrim in the ulster (as is dunloy on both fronts, fair play) football championship and they have us fixed in for a double over this weekend. we have at least 10 players who play for both teams, starters i may add for the senior football team.

i think it's about time they had a one way league for the football. there are only about 6 clubs which are single codes the rest play both at some level. for a county that is shite at football we persist with football overload and we are getting worse at it.

beware what you say about the county website as they have people reading this site all the time

Milltown knows best.......Big brother is watching us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 17, 2007, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
...too ensure septics like me

I'm assuming that's a typo skull!


Agghh ffs JC.....I was trying to tee up Rocky with that one  ;)

Only joking ..well spotted  :-[...10 press-ups coming right up  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 17, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 17, 2007, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 10:01:46 AM
...too ensure septics like me

I'm assuming that's a typo skull!


Agghh ffs JC.....I was trying to tee up Rocky with that one  ;)

Only joking ..well spotted  :-[...10 press-ups coming right up  :P

Cant believe i missed that, got an email from my boss today, spotted a spelling mistake in it, was going to mention it but thought better of it........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2007, 03:58:58 PM
 :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 18, 2007, 12:14:53 PM
Milltown..is our match still on Sunday? Will your footballers be allowed to play??

So the county started back training last week. Anybody any ideas on the squad....much the same as last year or any new faces??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2007, 01:18:42 PM
senior match is for one o clock i believe. although we have not given out offical notice but sec phoned me to ask was this ok. our manager is happy enough for it to go ahead.

will the footballers play? i'm sure some of them will play. the game will be played as an end of season game and in good spirit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 19, 2007, 02:05:31 AM
Look forward to the match on sunday. Sincerely hope Dunloy have learned from the last day out. The crans have no other option but to  play as per we have seen. But Dunloy(as any team in this situation) have nothing  more to do than mirror their tactics and drag the game back to their terms. Man o mano they will not lose. hurling will prevail. mark my words!!!! and I should  know cos i'm pish'd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 09:27:55 AM
Welcome back "North Antrim"........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 09:44:33 AM
Quote from: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 09:27:55 AM
Welcome back "North Antrim"........

I dunno ......I thought he was just being cheeky, all the other words are spelt right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 11:19:51 AM
Have youse seen the Railway Cup team? I know its not the correct thread but will probably get more response here. They will be lucky to get within 25 pts i would think.Watson is in the squad but not starting 15 for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 11:39:24 AM
Haven't seen it. Can anybody post it? Winker not starting? Can only assume he agreed to join the panel but didn't attend any training sessions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 11:39:24 AM
Haven't seen it. Can anybody post it? Winker not starting? Can only assume he agreed to join the panel but didn't attend any training sessions

   


Ulster hurling team named
19 October 2007


Ulster hurling manager Dominic McKinley has included players from every county in the province with the exception of Derry in his squad for Saturday night's Inter-provincial semi-final against Connacht at Ballybofey.

Players from Antrim, Down, Donegal, Armagh, Tyrone and Fermanagh are named in the starting line-up, while Cavan's Paul Sheridan and Dermot Crowe of Monaghan are included on the substitutes bench.

Not surprisingly, Antrim players dominate the selection with Sean Delargy captaining the side from right corner back. Fermanagh's Kevin McGarry partners Antrim man Neil McManus at midfield, while Armagh duo Paul McCormack and Declan Coulter, Donegal's Danny Cullen and Terry McIntosh of Tyrone are named in an attack which is notable for the absence of Antrim's Liam Watson.

Ulster (SH v Connacht): Graham Clarke (Down); S Delargy (Antrim), M McCambridge (Antrim), A Graffin (do); J Donnelly (Donegal), K McKeegan (Antrim), Gabriel Clarke (Down); K McGarry (Fermanagh), N McManus (Antrim); M Herron (do), P McCormack (Armagh), D Coulter (do); T McIntosh (Tyrone), K Kelly (Antrim), D Cullen (Donegal).



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2007, 12:21:57 PM
The result mightn't be, but including players from all of the "weaker" counties is a good thing for ulster hurling IMO. Good to see these boys getting recognized. Fair play to woody.  Seems to see the bigger picture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 19, 2007, 12:23:14 PM
Would be suprised if Ulster got within 20 points looking at that team.

What about the county awards last night. Micko got County hurler of the year....I know there was very few contenders but he only hurled for about 20 mins against Clare & scored a few points against Kilkenny. That will help his ego :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 19, 2007, 12:23:14 PM
Would be suprised if Ulster got within 20 points looking at that team.

What about the county awards last night. Micko got County hurler of the year....I know there was very few contenders but he only hurled for about 20 mins against Clare & scored a few points against Kilkenny. That will help his ego :(

Im sure Milltown is delighted ! In fairness who would you have given it to, nobody really covered themselves in glory this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on October 19, 2007, 01:38:33 PM
there was only 11 at ulster training on wed night. and those 11 are starting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 19, 2007, 01:44:49 PM
picking players for the year is a good idea, but i was given the form two months ago with still four game sto play was told that i had to pick a senior league player of the year but he had to be from antrim and you could not pick down players who played in the Antrim league :-\

i plumed for Johnny Campbell as he was the best antrim club player we played against. but we had still to play Cushendall, Dunloy, st Johns and someone else. i personally thought some of the down players we played against this year were better (not ballycran as we beat them) if your going to have an award and i think it's a good to have it and the way it was done was good to. then have it at the end of the season.

i'm a bit pissed off at not winning it myself but always next year ;D

good to see conor mccaffery getting the reserve one. think he got my vote
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 19, 2007, 01:45:43 PM
Have to say this is a competition that has been dying on its feet for years, even when the players were getting a free trip around the world to play the final there was still no appetite to play in from the players.

It should be looked at and maybe scrapped from the calendar for a few years and see if it is genuinely missed. Im not sure about Woodys approach I can see what he is trying to do with it but these guys are going to be so out of their depth its unreal.

If we dont take it seriously and get the best players to turn out then it devalues the whole competition IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 19, 2007, 02:47:21 PM
County Hurler of the year should have been Karl McK or Neil McManus...best performers for Antrim.

Any place you can find out all the winners from last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 19, 2007, 02:49:33 PM
Just checked Antrim Website...they are on there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 19, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 19, 2007, 02:47:21 PM
County Hurler of the year should have been Karl McK or Neil McManus...best performers for Antrim.

Any place you can find out all the winners from last night?

I dont think either of them were consistent enough, in fairness i dont know who was.Midfield was destroyed against Clare in the qualifiers. Who voted for the Senior County Award?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 19, 2007, 03:20:57 PM
clubs did not pick the county hurler award, must have been S&W
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 08:41:30 AM
Cushendall failed the field yesterday, arranged the game for 1 and didn't show. claimed they only had 12 players available for the game. are the rumours true. all our footballers where going to play as well.

at the dunloy game my mate said there was enough Cushendall men at the match to have played us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 08:41:30 AM
Cushendall failed the field yesterday, arranged the game for 1 and didn't show. claimed they only had 12 players available for the game. are the rumours true. all our footballers where going to play as well.

at the dunloy game my mate said there was enough Cushendall men at the match to have played us

Do youse get the points Milltown? We beat Rossa 2-17 to 0-10 at Rossa yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on October 22, 2007, 09:38:29 AM
was told by a very good source milltown that they only could muster up 12 men.

they rung round but couldnt get anymore, guys had phones turned off. N McManus who could go to play for Ulster the day before couldnt get out of his bed to play for his club. although he wasnt the only one, cant remember who else he said didnt turn up. bad attitude seems to be running through that team, doesnt bode well for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 09:41:39 AM
Aye Give It Timber but there would have been no bags or tracksuits handed out yesterday though against St Galls.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 09:47:01 AM
good result Balboa, thats two years in a row you have beaten them, though this year they have been poor. i'd say rocky was away home, and if it was an early start then they would have been missing some due to the beer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2007, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 08:41:30 AM
Cushendall failed the field yesterday, arranged the game for 1 and didn't show. claimed they only had 12 players available for the game. are the rumours true. all our footballers where going to play as well.

at the dunloy game my mate said there was enough Cushendall men at the match to have played us

That is bad form .... its not ideal playing league games at this time of year I know but a bit of social hurling at this time of year when the fixture has been arranged does no harm. That is showing total disrespect to hurling by not fielding yesterday. Did they forget that in the previous two years that everyone else was playing these games out. Remember Dunloy had a great oul tussle with St Galls last year in November....nothing to play for (oh bar the league ...the draw cost us  >:() but both teams really enjoyed the match. Do Cushendall feel they are above hurling "meaningless" matches these days?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 09:47:01 AM
good result Balboa, thats two years in a row you have beaten them, though this year they have been poor. i'd say rocky was away home, and if it was an early start then they would have been missing some due to the beer

I wouldnt know their younger players but i couldnt see too many missing, Rocky wasnt playing though & Kettle didnt start but came on.There was only 3 in it at ht but in fairness they were brutal even though we played surprisingly well for the time of year & the fact that most of our boys were on the beer. Our team is reasonably young so they can get away with boozing but alas i cant  :( I asked a Rossa player is Aidan Hamill still taking them and he said "well he isnt dead yet"  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give-it-Timber on October 22, 2007, 10:03:09 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2007, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 08:41:30 AM
Cushendall failed the field yesterday, arranged the game for 1 and didn't show. claimed they only had 12 players available for the game. are the rumours true. all our footballers where going to play as well.

at the dunloy game my mate said there was enough Cushendall men at the match to have played us

That is bad form .... its not ideal playing league games at this time of year I know but a bit of social hurling at this time of year when the fixture has been arranged does no harm. That is showing total disrespect to hurling by not fielding yesterday. Did they forget that in the previous two years that everyone else was playing these games out. Remember Dunloy had a great oul tussle with St Galls last year in November....nothing to play for (oh bar the league ...the draw cost us  >:() but both teams really enjoyed the match. Do Cushendall feel they are above hurling "meaningless" matches these days?

dont think its Cushendall skull, just a select few guys who have been listening to Balboas friend for too long.  ;)

dont think the fact that no reserve hurlers made themselves available due to playing their reserve semi on saturday night helped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 22, 2007, 11:51:17 AM


That is bad form .... its not ideal playing league games at this time of year I know but a bit of social hurling at this time of year when the fixture has been arranged does no harm. That is showing total disrespect to hurling by not fielding yesterday. Did they forget that in the previous two years that everyone else was playing these games out. Remember Dunloy had a great oul tussle with St Galls last year in November....nothing to play for (oh bar the league ...the draw cost us  >:() but both teams really enjoyed the match. Do Cushendall feel they are above hurling "meaningless" matches these days?
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Spot on skull.  This is typical C'dall arrogance and a total lack of respect for the game.  I hope they are slapped with a fine for not fielding although that probably won;t mean much to them.


i think the mini-league in the championship prelims has taken awy from an already poor league.  time to get back to the old knock out with perhaps seeding for chmpionship based on your performance in the previous years league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 12:12:25 PM
Championship based on previous leagues performance would be a bit unfair because we are playing games in October/November when teams have not been training for the past 7/8 weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 22, 2007, 12:22:59 PM
Yeah its a hard one to figure. But we have to start somewhere, we have to get to a situation were the leagues actually matte and that is the only way that we will avoid them becoming a farce.

Think there are too many big ego's floating around the Dall at the moment. Ego's that have been created by one seasons hurling last year. This is one thing that always seems to happen down there for some reason they get ahead of themselves and think they are way better than they are too early.

Maybe this years championship getting away from them will have done them some good but I dont think it has when they havent turned up for this fixture at the weekend.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 22, 2007, 12:24:18 PM
It was a disgrace that we couldnt get a team. We'll get a £300 fine & we'll accept. It wasn't arrogance on Cushendall's behalf they couldnt get a team it was the players who said they show that didnt turn up. Our managers were at the reserve match on Saturday & players told them they would show. Some players were injured & genuinely couldnt make it but like Give it Timber said...some players turned off their phone & didnt show....& the worst thing was it wasnt even a suprise as some of the boys heads are up their own arse!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on October 22, 2007, 12:47:02 PM
Totally agree with Exile. Some our boys have their heads up their own arse's and some other peoples too. they have listened to too many people telling them how good they are, when they haven't been. Some of our young players are way above their station and I don't envy the next cushendall manager. Some of them really believe they can do what they want, and this really has to stop. They can't just decide when they want to hurl. Thats why we were beaten by Dunloy - most of the team thought they could just turn it on on the day, this can't be done unless the work has been put in before hand. I think alot of lads need to be brought back down to earth. Its a really pity as one of them has the potential to be one of the best Hurlers about (Antrim, Ulster and Ireland), he has everything but this year he seems to have taken on a very high impression of himself, that he is above everyone else both on the field and off the field. And he looks like he could very easily throw it all away by listening to the wrong people and hanging around with the wrong groups. For a while most people thought the sun came out of his arse but now people in Cushedall and Antrim are begining to see the really truth about this player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2007, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 22, 2007, 12:24:18 PM
It was a disgrace that we couldnt get a team. We'll get a £300 fine & we'll accept. It wasn't arrogance on Cushendall's behalf they couldnt get a team it was the players who said they show that didnt turn up. Our managers were at the reserve match on Saturday & players told them they would show. Some players were injured & genuinely couldnt make it but like Give it Timber said...some players turned off their phone & didnt show....& the worst thing was it wasnt even a suprise as some of the boys heads are up their own arse!!

A contradiction me thinks  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 22, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
Skull....What I meant was that Cushendall Hurling Club were quite prepared to play the match & had no problems doing so it was our younger players....not just on the team but also on the subs bench(minors as well) who just dont give a f**k about anyone else. Its unfair on the rest of the team who train hard during the season & were available for the match yesterday

There wont be many names going forward for manager next year...god help them. The Honeymoon period is over for a few boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 22, 2007, 01:22:20 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 12:12:25 PM
Championship based on previous leagues performance would be a bit unfair because we are playing games in October/November when teams have not been training for the past 7/8 weeks.

For the record Rocky, I wouldn;t suggest that we do this next year as I agree it would be totally unfair.

I am a very strong believer in the proposition that changes to any leagues/championships should be made and agreed one year in advance so that everyone knows where they stand and what they are aiming for at the start of the season. set the goalposts at the start of the year and don;t move them.

No excuses then if you have to play in october for crucial points, as long as you know where you stand

This circus where leagues change every year and teams get relegated when they thought they were safe is damaging to potentially progressive clubs.

I recall , following winning a league, playing a promotion/relgation play off in december some years ago.  Winner went to or stayed in the higher division.  We won.  3 weeks later at county convention the leagues were restructured and we were back where we started.

This year, there will almost certainly be proposals from the county CCC and perhaps some clubs to change the hurling leagues. We might have 4 divisions next year. So a team who thinks they are safe (perhaps Rocky's own team) might find themselves in a second Division.  No real Waterfoot fan but plain and simple, that is not fair.

Mind you, the clubs are to blame for this, it is they who vote for change every feckin year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 22, 2007, 03:10:59 PM
The fact that Cushendall asked for the game to be changed so they could watch the Dunloy game is what annoys me the most. We changed the time and they didn't bother turning up. Phoned our manager at 12 to try and rearrange but when? Our footballers are still playing league games and preparing for Ulster football. It's not as if we have 2/3 players on both teams. Ten players are on both starting teams. I'm just annoyed at not getting another game. They forced me into the club earlier than I wanted.

There may be changes this year two possibly three teams could drop. Should Glenarm still go up? Division one is tough and the gap is big between the top teams like Portaferry, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall. Then you have the other teams that have been taking points of themselves for years, and the team that comes up usually goes down.

We have sustained our div 1 status by targeting games that we should win. Usually three/four games is enough. Then try and rattle the big teams at home.

if the leagues changed, and they meant more then a lot more effort would be needed to stay up, as all points would be important
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
We have 10 pts and should beat Lamh Dhearg too so relegation should not be an issue,Milltown have you any idea are Glenarm going up and Sarsfields down? I have heard that Glenarm are coming up and also that they are not, personally i think they would be mad to come up, some of the beatings they would get would not help them. We are similar to St Galls, target everyone outside Dall/Dunloy & Loughguile and if we can get points off them they are a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on October 22, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
We have 10 pts and should beat Lamh Dhearg too so relegation should not be an issue,Milltown have you any idea are Glenarm going up and Sarsfields down? I have heard that Glenarm are coming up and also that they are not, personally i think they would be mad to come up, some of the beatings they would get would not help them. We are similar to St Galls, target everyone outside Dall/Dunloy & Loughguile and if we can get points off them they are a bonus.

While you may well be right about Glenarm Rocky but they have a young enough side and won Div2 so if they fancy a crack at Div1 they should be allowed. In recent years yourselves, St Galls and Cushendun who would have been traditional Div2/ intermediate sides have gone up into Div1 and managed to survive, fair play to those involved. I know Cushendun are back in Div 2 now but they had a long enough run and got to a county final for the first time in decades which should count for something. Small clubs tend to operate in cycles and if Glenarm feel they are in an upward cycle then they should try to advance themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 22, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
We have 10 pts and should beat Lamh Dhearg too so relegation should not be an issue,Milltown have you any idea are Glenarm going up and Sarsfields down? I have heard that Glenarm are coming up and also that they are not, personally i think they would be mad to come up, some of the beatings they would get would not help them. We are similar to St Galls, target everyone outside Dall/Dunloy & Loughguile and if we can get points off them they are a bonus.

While you may well be right about Glenarm Rocky but they have a young enough side and won Div2 so if they fancy a crack at Div1 they should be allowed. In recent years yourselves, St Galls and Cushendun who would have been traditional Div2/ intermediate sides have gone up into Div1 and managed to survive, fair play to those involved. I know Cushendun are back in Div 2 now but they had a long enough run and got to a county final for the first time in decades which should count for something. Small clubs tend to operate in cycles and if Glenarm feel they are in an upward cycle then they should try to advance themselves.

I am not saying they dont deserve to come up, i just think every time in Division 2 was trying to win the Intermediate Championship this year and the fact that Glenarm were not able to alarms me if they are intending to come up. When we entered Division 1 about 5 years ago we had quite a number of strong underage players on the verge of coming through who are all starting now, Paul & Randall Mc Donnell, Seamus Doherty, Conor Mc Allister, Alex Mc Donnell, the same could be said of St Galls, I dont see that level of players in Glenarm. When we came up we had the benefit of no teams being relegated in our first year, Glenarm will not have that luxury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 22, 2007, 10:30:08 PM
There is no doubt that Glenarm deserve the chance to go up but I reckon they will think long and hard before doing so.  IMHO they just don;t have the firepower to make it a worthwhile venture.  They are slightly better than Sarsfields who went up last year but thats about it..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 22, 2007, 10:32:56 PM
I havent seen them play but they didnt seem to be hammering teams and Cushendun beat them fairly easily in Intermediate Semi Final which does not bode well for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 09:34:08 AM
Sure Glenarm will probably go all out to ensure they stay in Division 1 next year by poaching players from neighbouring clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 09:34:08 AM
Sure Glenarm will probably go all out to ensure they stay in Division 1 next year by poaching players from neighbouring clubs.

Who would they be poaching from??? Larne ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 09:44:47 AM
I have a feeling the trips to Feystown to play Glenarm will not be the spectacle they used to be 10 years ago, lets just say they had a few chaps that thought a hurl was a weapon first and a piece of sporting equipment second  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 23, 2007, 09:59:14 AM
yes it's a long time since i was there. many a great tussle with the guys. i'm sure they have a good squad and will do well enough. just cant see were they will pick up points.

i can remember going there, changing in the cars cars, getting stuck in the mud on rainy days, ah the craic was ninety ::)

whats the pitch like now? have not been up for a number of years. we last played Glenarm in the intermediate final at casement. 2 months after they forgot to turn up, while we turned up waiting on the pitch for them. won the game eventually by a point, we went up and they lost a lot of their older players at the time and our juvenile teams at the time were wining all the titles in hurling and went on to win minor and contest 3 under 21 finals. thats what we are currently playing with, and thats why we have stayed in div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 23, 2007, 10:06:02 AM
how close would yous actually be milltown of challenging the big 3 ?
we in derry saw glenullin win the football on sunday and breaking the big 3 dominance there so there is no doubt that with the right structure in place it can be done
would the football be the biggest obstacle ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 23, 2007, 10:09:44 AM
Any clarity on what is happening with the league structures then?

Big talk of it being split into 4 Divs again as previously mentioned on here but I for one hope not.

Bit of a kick in the teeth for the Div 2 winners if they don't get the chance to head into Div 1 and pit themselves against the big guns. They will be a bit behind but I don't see any reason why they can't enjoy the benefits of promotion and still play Intermediate. They were good enough to win the league this year but not their championship.

Same applies for whover wins the Div 3 league and for the junior championship.

Others may comment and have done so but the league programme is largely fulfilled is it not?
Div 1 there are a few games left but with no real emphasis on winning the thing they might not be played.
Div 2 is complete. I think.
Div 3 only 2/3 games left and keeps the interest going for a little bit longer.
Not bad?

Skull seems happy enough at this stage after his expressing his issues with the lack of fixtures (if anything there were too many for Dunloy)??
Milltown Row - you boys got a fair few hurling matches (albeit not one last Sunday).
Anyone else??


Cushendall
As regards the debate about Cushendall. I would never ever consider them to be arrogant as a club. If they have a few young starlets who are too big for their boots as has been mentioned on here then so be it - those starlets will either be whipped into shape or fall by the wayside.
Its not as if other teams have not fulfilled fixtures in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 23, 2007, 10:38:52 AM
We have, as club spoke in the past about committing to hurling for a couple of years as the lads we have in the club if they were drilled hard for a number of years (as they have no fear of playing the big teams) could possibly push for the championship. We have competed in the leagues without really ever training; problem being, the footballers know each year that they are pushing not only for Antrim championships but also Ulster championships. So this reason puts it to bed. Even when we were put out by Cargin most of the lads took off to the states.

The commitment that is required to push in both codes could lead to player burn out, injuries, and the possibility to lose out on both championships. If we could put the club first instead of individual feats (oh how many medals have you got) and push for an historic first, and win the volunteer cup, then It would put our club on a par with the great Johnnies teams and Rossa teams of the past that were competing at both all the time.

County commitments and College commitments are a big drain on the club players now. So dual clubs can only compete at one code at senior level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
Glenarm have poached players from Larne for years and continue to do so.  Re; Feystown, Glenarm only own 50% of the facilities there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
Glenarm have poached players from Larne for years and continue to do so.  Re; Feystown, Glenarm only own 50% of the facilities there.

With all due respect i think they will need a bit more than Latharna Og's finest if they are going into Division 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 23, 2007, 11:26:58 AM
With all due respect Milltown I think you are still living a little in cloud cookoo land if you think that you could push for championship with that current side against other current sides.

You are an average hurling side that compete well in the league when others are using it to prepare for championship. Thats your level at the moment. Even if you had 20 fully committed players then I believe you would still struggle to make and impact and more than likely would find yourselves in exactly the same kind of spot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 11:40:54 AM
 Balboa, that may be so, however when the Latharna Og club has developed players at underage / minor level, Glenarm have been sniffing around trying to entice players to play for them. This happened last season and its not on. Latharna Og have finally gotten an underage structure after many years in the wilderness and the last thing that club needs is their best underage / minor players being poached by their neighbours. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 23, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
nag, you sound like the Antrim fourm editor with the 'cookoo land' quote

i believe and it's my opinion, that we have the players.

we have the skillfull players like Karl, mackers, Johhny flynn. Ciaran and Cj McGourty, Sheehan. then players like McLean, Gaga, O'Grady, Terry O'Neill, Aidso Gallagher, McDaniell, Anton Mc Caffrey, Sean Burke. these lads along with the 5/6 others that have come through if committed, would push for Championships.

Nag, we have never trained as a team for Championship unless it's the week before Championship and even then we only get maybe 15 people turning up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 11:45:46 AM
Aye i agree with you Coaster, Larne are a credit to the GAA, the fact they have been able to sustain a Gaa club in a town as sectarian as Larne.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 23, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
Im not knocking your opinion MIlltown its just mine that regardless of training you would be able to compete right at the very top end. You dont have the type of player required to win championships in hurling and wont have for another good few years as far as I can see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2007, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 23, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
Im not knocking your opinion MIlltown its just mine that regardless of training you would be able to compete right at the very top end. You dont have the type of player required to win championships in hurling and wont have for another good few years as far as I can see.

It is my opinon that St Galls have more of the "type of player required to win championships " than any of the other chasing pack. They have a belief and compeditiveness that makes them difficult to break down when they are up for a game. For a team who don't train that much...you have to admit they have given plenty of sides who do, enough to think about over the years. They remind me of our Football team years ago, when we got to I think 4 semi finals without ever training for them. You take attributes from one code and use it in the other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 23, 2007, 12:13:11 PM
Skull

I agree with you that they have more than the rest of the chasing pack.

But who are the chasing pack? do they have more than st johns ? yes more than rossa yes?
do they have more than ballycaslte? yes?

do you actually see any of those sides winning a championship in the next 5-10 years?

The chasing pack are not chasing and that is the problem they are so far away when it comes to the nitty gritty time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 23, 2007, 12:24:18 PM
nag, your right about the distance between the chasing pack and the top three teams and also about the quality of the players coming from our poor hurling juvenile set up. but the current crop we have at senior will be playing senior for at least six years.

should they committ for 3 years then i believe they could close the gap. but like i say this is all pie in the sky as our footballers are winning championships in first gear, and every year they are looking to compete in the Ulster championship. in the mean time, i'll struggle on and promote hurling in a football dominated club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 23, 2007, 12:30:23 PM
Milltown...6,7 or 8 years ago..St Galls were competing regularly in finals at U16, Minors & U21 & had a great bunch of players but I dont think they have come through due to the football. Now if they had been able to dedicate completely to the Hurling then you'd never have known. I remember watching Karl Stewart at minor & he was nearly unplayable at times...but him & a few others havent fulfilled their potential due to the success in the football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2007, 12:53:47 PM

Balboa, Ballymena have had the same problems as ourselves in the past but they've progressed well in the intravening years although hurling in their club is now the poor relation with most juveniles opting to play football. The onus now for Latharna Og is to continue to develop at underage levels and field a senior team that can compete with the Cloughmills' of this world. This will be a few years down the line, but the club is going in the right direction. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 26, 2007, 12:11:39 PM
Its all gone very quiet.

whats the opinions on the match on sunday, hear the weather is to be very poor?

any predictions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 26, 2007, 12:24:20 PM
NAG...More talk about the Ulster final on the Hurling discussion board.

If the weather is poor, I think that will suit Kevin Lynch's(apparantly they're not to be called Dungiven :)). If Dunloy move the ball really quickly into the FF Line they'll be grand. But if they dont spread it out they'll find it tough like Cushendall did in the drawn match last year but the extra class in their forward line should enable them to win. Dunloy to win by maybe 3 or 4 but it will be a tough match for them.

The county are back training I hear..any word if any newcomers or who has been dropped off( ie over 27's)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 26, 2007, 01:15:20 PM
I have heard some alarming reports that c.heron isnt going back, tosh, pinnkie b.mcfall m. molloy are not going back can anyone clarify.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 26, 2007, 01:55:24 PM
C Herron would be a big loss. Last year he had some of the old stuff back and was hurling well.

Tosh gave it up and then came back last year. Inevitable.
Pinky has put in a good few years service and this was probably expected. Banging away a few goals for Ulster might
McFall - who? Joke, think this was inevitable. Again a few good years service and love him or hate him he plied his trade well for a few years.
Molloy - again understandable but a shame.

Anybody interested in giving their line up for next year?

            Magee
Graffin N McGarry Delargy
Campbell McKeegan Herron
Paul Shields, E McCloskey
M Herron N McManus P Magill
Watson P Richmond D Laverty

Not too many Belfast men on there.
Am probably forgetting people as well.

Will P Richmond give it another go? He is still young and arguably entering his prime but marriage can do strange things to a fella...I hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 26, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
Hope Ciaran Herron, Paddy Richmond & Malachy Molloy arent retiring. They would be a huge loss. Wouldnt be suprised if Molloy & Paddy didnt go back but it would a suprise about Herron. He's only 27ish.

Glensman....wouldnt have Laverty near the panel never mind the team. Look at this years/last years county final..he hardly hit a ball. The other team is maybe fair enough as there isnt many options. Hopefully Watson goes back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 26, 2007, 02:23:43 PM
Glensman you just did yourself a massive disservice there by naming laverty oh my god man where have you been this year?

As for P.Richmond is he still worth his place? watched him close and hasnt impressed for dunloy at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 26, 2007, 02:26:08 PM
Obviously depending on how our footballers will do in the football, Karl Stewart has always opted for the hurling, he's an exceptional hurler, who does a lot of hard graft in a match, which goes unseen. a lot of the forwards wait on good ball, where as Karl is willing to get stuck in and win ugly ball.

always asked to play for the footballers and would walk on the team but  is a hurler through and through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 26, 2007, 04:30:44 PM
There isnt many options available especially forwards. If you look at this years championship. Ally Elliott, Dick O'Kane & Conor McCambridge have been 3 of the best forwards & there well into their 30's.

Milltown..Paddy has had a few injuries & was unavailable for a while due to his wedding,so if he got fit & injury free then i'd definately have him on the team. Maybe due to getting married there'll be less time for beer & he might want to get out of the house for training :D.

Would have Micky Kettle in contention for a starting spot as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 30, 2007, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 26, 2007, 12:24:20 PM
Kevin Lynch's(apparantly they're not to be called Dungiven

correct
read page 64 / 65 of pat spillanes second book - 'no pat on the back'
and you'll get the picture

its just people continue to call the club Dungiven, thats not the name we go by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 30, 2007, 11:46:11 AM
Only getting back to here after focusing the efforts in the Ulster Final thread there for a couple of days!

Ruairi Og and NAG, Laverty's inclusion was a punt alright and I hold my hands up in saying that I was at the county final and he was marked completely out of the game by Mickey McClements. However, who do we put there?
Criticism has been levelled at his door for not being great in the big games...he is a young fella, not long out of minor at all.
I have seen him in full flow in a couple of not so big games and if that could be transferred he could be a threat to anyone.
If his attitude could be controlled and his effort upped he's got potential.

Suggest who to put in in his place (I may be forgetting people) and I'll leave it alone!

Agree that Karl Stewart works hard (harder than many of his fellow forwards this year for the county) so he may be worth sticking in again.

A couple of young Montys, Dick O'Kane's and Ally Elliots really wouldn't go amiss.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 30, 2007, 12:25:15 PM
Glensman..Dim Dim has been called into the county squad. He'll never make a county hurler. He 21 or 22 now I think. If him in full flow is the match against Ballycastle where he scored 1-5 against a 41 year old & a minor then we're in trouble

I'd put Micky Kettle in corner back & move Sean Delargy in corner forward before i'd pick Dim Dim.But you are totally right...there is a total lack of options
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on October 30, 2007, 12:48:58 PM
Shane isnt good enough yet & McCrory would be more of a midfielder as well.

Rocky from Rossa could be an option for the squad but he teaches in London doesnt he??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 1912 on October 31, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on October 30, 2007, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on October 26, 2007, 12:24:20 PM
Kevin Lynch's(apparantly they're not to be called Dungiven

correct
read page 64 / 65 of pat spillanes second book - 'no pat on the back'
and you'll get the picture

its just people continue to call the club Dungiven, thats not the name we go by.


If Shamrocks are from Loughgeil, McQuillans are from Ballycastle, Cuchulians from Dunloy... where are Kevin Lynch's from? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 31, 2007, 09:14:17 AM
Whats the story behind not calling them Dungiven anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 31, 2007, 10:59:01 AM
Would also like to know why they are so touchy about being called Dungiven?

Is it not fair to say that most teams go by the town/village name?

and what did spillanes book say?  was it specific to KL's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on November 04, 2007, 04:28:41 PM
Ulster Junior Hurling Final
Glen Rovers (Antrim) 1-09
Setanta (Donegal) 0-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 05, 2007, 12:17:57 PM
Just to pull this discussion into the appropriate thread. McDs have indeed given Armoy a lifeline and they should stay in Div 2 albeit by the skin of their teeth. Cloughmills will join them as they have proved to be the best organised team in Div 3 which has been a shambles as we all know. I wouldn't like to guess how may matches ave been conceded this year in Div .3 due to teams outside the top 4 getting fed up taking hammerings. This cant continue but I agree changes should be deferred for a year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 05, 2007, 12:45:16 PM
I think Div 2 can cope with 1 down from Div 1 (possibly 2 if L Dearg want to go down?) and one up.  plenty of room for more matches in this league.

I am not sure if Glenarm are going up.  If they want to go up, they should be allowed to do so but thats up to them.  I think they would be mad to go up.

Cloughmills will be a welcome addition to Div 2 and can compete there. 

Div 3 has been a shambles and the blame for that must rest firmly at the footstep of those clubs who have conceded matches all year round.  They would be very quick to criticise others if they weren;t getting leagues/ matches to play so when they are arranged they should have the courtesy to fulfill.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
Last Man, have McDermotts withdrawn from competitive hurling and given Armoy a chance to stay in Div 2? Too many teams in Div 3 didnt bother to fulfill fixtures towards the latter stages of the league, Mitchells, Na Fuisoige, St Pauls 2nds, etc..Would there be any point in having these teams remaining in the hurling leagues. I know that Mitchells have been struggling to field this past couple of seasons. Congrats to Cloughmills on their promotion and on the opening of their pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 05, 2007, 02:01:09 PM
What has happened to McDermott's? They were very competitive in Div 2 last year - I think Portaferry IIs beat them in a play off for the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2007, 02:13:22 PM
The same has happened in the football Lecale.

I think a few players may have went to St Pauls and surrounding clubs.

I think all is not well internally in that club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 05, 2007, 03:31:05 PM
Mc Ds managed to miss relegation at the expense of St.Endas last year although the hightown men beat them fairly handy in the league. St.Endas management problems last season killed them but Mc Ds were already in a big nose dive. I hear they couldn't field this season so withdrew from the league but turned out for the C'ship. It has also been said that some of their footballers were seen playing soccer at cherryvale while they had failed to field for a gaelic match on the pitch beside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 05, 2007, 04:43:11 PM
With regards to what has been happening in Division 3 is there not a case for creating a division four where some of the smaller clubs, Na Fueiseog, Mitchells etc a chance to compete at there own level. We might also consider creating a junior B championship for the Division 4 teams which you would see in quite a few counties down south.
On an associated point I read something in the Antrim guestbook about players from football only clubs such as Pearses or Eire Og wanting to try out at hurling but not being able to since there are no hurling only clubs in Belfast. Would it be worthwhile for say Mitchells or McDs declaring themselves hurling only and giving some of these guys a run out. It might not work but if these teams are struggling to fulfil fixtures it may not be a mad idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2007, 06:17:45 PM
Mitchells tried an amalgamation with Eire Og and O'Donnell's and play under the name O Mitchell Og. I think they got one player from O'Donnell's and a couple from Eire Og. I dont think Mitchell's have any sort of underage structure and I believe they would have folded had it not been for Gilly McIlhatton, who has ran the length of the county in order to keep the Mitchells club alive. Heard McD's are in trouble allright. A few other Belfast teams would be in the same boat as well. Has any of the Belfast posters heard if anything came out of that meeting called by the South Antrim board a few weeks ago in relation to hurling in Belfast. A few years ago there was a Div 4 in the hurling league but the county decided to amalgamate that with the teams in Div 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 05, 2007, 06:31:06 PM
Creating a junior B championship is a very good idea but as regards the leagues the only way teams improve are to play better teams.

Larne for example are a club that are striving to make moves...there is a bit if impetus there. They should be given the opportunity to play those better teams in Div 3. They get beat by 10 points by St Theresa's one time, then get beat by 5 the next and work at it. Antrim Coaster just using you as an example!

It is a joke if that rule is in place still that stops someone like an Eire Og football player being able to give hurling a go for a club that has a hurling team (regardless of whether they have a football team). It really does seem pre-historic that someone would have to leave their home club in order to be able to play both codes. I can see no sense in it whatsoever and it does not promote gaelic games in the slightest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 05, 2007, 08:56:37 PM
The way the rule is at present if you play for a hurling only club, like Armoy you can then play football for a football only club like Cargin however if you were to try out the football for a dual club like Dunloy you would have to transfer for hurling as well. It is certainly a bit strange but as far as I know it is a croke park rule and not something specific to Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 05, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
That rule is doing hurling harm in Belfast!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 06, 2007, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on November 05, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
That rule is doing hurling harm in Belfast!
No doubt about it, I'd say there must be a fair few players that have been hoovered up by the likes of St.galls for example with the enticement of football success and never hurled again, a tragedy for both them and their original clubs. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2007, 10:43:36 AM
last man, i can think of one/two dual players of such note and this happened while they were juvenile's. one being Sean Burns. but he was mainly a footballer anyway the rest all played hurling.

and when burnsy came to us we were not a major force in football, yeah we won a couple but we were also relagated. the main players of the current championship wining teams have all came through the youth set up.

this is an old argument about us 'hoovering up players' name me a club which in belfast which has not got players from another club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 06, 2007, 02:54:07 PM
A Lazy choice of words on my part MR as that was not the thrust of my argument, but I'd say Sean Burns went to yous exclusively for the football but by all accounts was a very capable hurler at the time and as far as I know never played hurling again.  We dont know the reasons for that of course but it still could be worth considering greater flexibility for dual players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 06, 2007, 03:16:51 PM
what was sean burns original club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 06, 2007, 04:00:53 PM
St.Endas, think he played there until minor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2007, 04:10:40 PM
came to us as a minor. played senior final when he was 18, first of his 8 medals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 06, 2007, 04:31:39 PM
Nobody can say it was a bad move for him .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 06, 2007, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 06, 2007, 04:31:39 PM
Nobody can say it was a bad move for him .

???
True Gaels would not agree with that comment LM. Moving clubs for a bit of glory is hardly following the ethos of the association is it? Not something to be proud of IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 07, 2007, 08:33:53 AM
I see we're up in Rossa park on Sunday

Are Rossa fielding teams this weather?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 07, 2007, 09:13:11 AM
I agree Skull but it is an easier point to make if your club has experienced a bit of glory. Urban areas are a special case perhaps and football is dominating in Belfast at the minute unfortunately. Lets face it, it's easier to be good at it and a good hurler will always have the makins of a good footballer. I am speaking from a hurling perspective and getting a bit of mommentum back into it in Belfast throughout all levels is a priority. At the end of the day this may not be the answer but a bit of lateral thinking is needed for sure to keep lads hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 07, 2007, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: podge on November 06, 2007, 03:16:51 PM
what was sean burns original club?

Is he anything to Carpet Burns? No its ok im getting my coat and going........ :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on November 07, 2007, 12:10:06 PM
Thats poor Balboa..very poor :D :D

Johnny..Cushendall played Rossa at Rossa on Sunday so I'd imagine they'll get a team ok but it was a pretty weak one on Sunday as far as I Know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 07, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
We beat Rossa handy a couple of weeks ago, they fielded against Cushendall last week but didnt field the previous week. They are very poor at the minute, i dont know if it was a "weakened" team against us but the only absentee i could see was Gavin Bell. They are just poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on November 07, 2007, 01:00:06 PM
I reckon we'll field 15 alright Johnnycool but we're not going well at the moment. I hear youse had a good auld battle with Ballycran last weekend. What was the story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 07, 2007, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on November 07, 2007, 01:00:06 PM
I reckon we'll field 15 alright Johnnycool but we're not going well at the moment. I hear youse had a good auld battle with Ballycran last weekend. What was the story?

A few bouts of handbags but nothing serious. Our lads didn't need much of a teamtalk as some of the young Crans have lost the run of themselves and were needing a few pegs removed. We hadn't lifted hurls for the last 6 weeks and it showed at the start with some very poor wides both from play and free's. Graham gifted Ballycran a goal when he misjudged a high ball, but he made sure after that. The Crans were flowing at that point and were looking to run away with it. We started to get into the game a bit with magic in midfield running things. Once he took off he is hard to stop and caused a smallish Ballycran defence no end of problems, not sure if I'd persist with him there but he's harder to man mark out there, but too far from goal for my liking.
The Crans seemed to be a bit worried relegation but I'd thought they were safe.

How many are going down? Is that decided yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 07, 2007, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 07, 2007, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on November 07, 2007, 01:00:06 PM
I reckon we'll field 15 alright Johnnycool but we're not going well at the moment. I hear youse had a good auld battle with Ballycran last weekend. What was the story?

A few bouts of handbags but nothing serious. Our lads didn't need much of a teamtalk as some of the young Crans have lost the run of themselves and were needing a few pegs removed. We hadn't lifted hurls for the last 6 weeks and it showed at the start with some very poor wides both from play and free's. Graham gifted Ballycran a goal when he misjudged a high ball, but he made sure after that. The Crans were flowing at that point and were looking to run away with it. We started to get into the game a bit with magic in midfield running things. Once he took off he is hard to stop and caused a smallish Ballycran defence no end of problems, not sure if I'd persist with him there but he's harder to man mark out there, but too far from goal for my liking.
The Crans seemed to be a bit worried relegation but I'd thought they were safe.

How many are going down? Is that decided yet?

Well i have heard about 10 different stories about the makeup of Division 1 next year, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg, Ballycran & Rossa (in that order) are a fair bit adrift of the rest. It just depends how many they send down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 07, 2007, 04:58:07 PM
Loughgiel Shamrocks 12    23
Dunloy                    10    18
Portaferry                12    16
Cushendall               12    14
Ballycastle                11    13
Ballygalget               10    12
Glenariff                  12    12
St. Johns                 11   11
St. Galls                  11    11
Ballycran                 12     7
Rossa                     11     5
Lamh Dhearg          10      2
Sarsfields                10      0

Well I suppose Rossa can pull level with Ballycran if they beat us on sunday according to the Antrim web site which is normally fairly accurate.
What happened to Lamh Dhearg this year, they normally offer a good battle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on November 10, 2007, 02:44:15 PM
As an interested gael, reading this for the past few months i feel the time is right to join in!!! And im sure there are plenty ready and willing to give me stick about 5 in a row.........but like plenty of you say......thats for the hogan stand forum. I hope to offer some educated knowledge about antrim hurling!!!

Congrats to Dunloy on winning the Ulster. You have been a great team and unlike some of my other colleagues i hope you go on and win the "Big Yin" - because it will act as a motivating to all clubs in Antrim - and more so our own club.

We won the league for the 4th year in a row last week. But again we finished short of the holy grail the volunteer cup. But i honestly feel that some time in the near future it will happen..........

Anyway - i hope im welcomed onto the board and i hope to contribute to some good aul discussion and craic

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on November 10, 2007, 02:47:05 PM
why??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 11, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
I think Hardstation means that it made him laugh (as it did with me) as the relevance to Loughgeil of the saying you used.
As in Loughgeil's day will come...

Not sure if you meant it that way or not.

It might be hard to take for a fair few but it would indeed be good if Loughgeil's day came sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on November 11, 2007, 01:41:45 PM
Loughgiel havent won the league four years in a row. Cushendall won in 2004...beat Portaferry at Casement in a play-off.

Somebody should have told the County hurlers that the GPA strike doesnt start til 1st January 08. Only 12 at training on friday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on November 11, 2007, 08:02:41 PM
Rossa well beat by Ballygalget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 11, 2007, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 11, 2007, 06:56:35 PM
heard that liam watson is back on the panel. great for antrim if he plays this yr with the right attitude.

Usually when the words "Watson" and "attitude" are used in the same sentence the word "bad" is also mentioned. In fairness he is the best forward in Antrim and they will need all the help they can get this year. I hear the turn outs are not great at training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 11, 2007, 10:43:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2007, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on November 11, 2007, 08:02:41 PM
Rossa well beat by Ballygalget.
Am I hearing right about a bust up in the changing room?

What happened? Did Aidan Hamill say he had just signed a ten year "golden handcuffs" deal ?  :D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Balboa on November 11, 2007, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
From what I heard, a 19 year old was knocked out cold by a 'mentor' for very little reason.
I cannot confirm this 100% though.

Well when we played them a couple of weeks ago the only ones on the line i could see were Aidan Hamill and Jim Connolly, there was maybe other ones but i didnt know them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 12, 2007, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
From what I heard, a 19 year old was knocked out cold by a 'mentor' for very little reason.
I cannot confirm this 100% though.

a rossa "selector" hit a boy christopher mc illhaton (mitchels connection) after the match for telling this selector to fu*k up during the game.

absolute disgrace and rossa should punish this so called selector immediatly! completly out of order!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2007, 08:36:53 AM
watched the game from the st pauls club rooms, well i was watching our footballers go down against St Pauls. the only two 'selectors' i seen on the line was Joe O'Neill and Jim Connolly, was it one of them?

oh and Shannon should have been sent off twice, the Loughgiel referee could have sent him off but being the last game maybe he couldn't be arsed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2007, 09:07:23 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2007, 08:36:53 AM
watched the game from the st pauls club rooms, well i was watching our footballers go down against St Pauls. the only two 'selectors' i seen on the line was Joe O'Neill and Jim Connolly, was it one of them?

oh and Shannon should have been sent off twice, the Loughgiel referee could have sent him off but being the last game maybe he couldn't be arsed

A tr**p plain and simple. Can I guess what he did? He was in his own half back line under their puck outs and he tried to "do" the man from behind on the dropping ball? I've never seen him stand toe to toe and try to win a physical battle with an opponent in my life, always has taken the cowards way out.

Am I close?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2007, 09:46:20 AM
We did our neighbours a bit of a favour on sunday by making sure that they stay above Rossa and hence will be safe as Rossa won't be relegated. It's one of the unwritten rules in Antrim.

I wasn't aware of the fracas in the Rossa changing room until this morning when a lad who teaches up in the west of the city rung me about it as one of his pupils told him that his daddy, had to 'deck' a player for slabbering at him. I didn't ask for names but it isn't good for any club or team when these things go on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 13, 2007, 10:20:49 AM
One of the better analysis I've read about the Greedy Pricks Association.
By Darragh McManus
Tuesday November 13 2007

Have you ever heard of someone "striking" against their own hobby? No, me neither, but for Dessie Farrell and his cohort in the Gaelic Players' Association (GPA), the impossible is not only possible, but likely.


Let's be clear about what hurling and football are to inter-county players: a pastime, freely chosen, which they do because they enjoy it. Despite extravagant declarations about player "sacrifice" which is costing them time and money, they are not forced to play, by anybody or for anybody.

They are free to quit entirely or swap to other sports at any time. Indeed, there is a club level in GAA to suit all tastes, from top-quality senior sides to Division 10 junior teams who only meet up for matches.

The essential point again: this is a hobby. To expect to be financially recompensed for your hobby -- and to threaten a so-called "strike" if your demands are not met -- is totally unreasonable, not to mention absurd.

It's also unworkable. These players are not employed by the GAA, so who exactly do they intend to "strike" against, what form will it take and what effect do they expect it to have?

Inter-county players are voluntary members of GAA clubs who are invited, by their county board in the person of the team manager, to play on the county team; nothing more nor less. Should they decline that invitation, as is their right, the county board has the responsibility and obligation to extend the invitation to alternative players.

There are thousands of fine talents across the country who would give their right arm to play for the county, and the paying public will follow these players in their thousands. GPA mouthpieces may say that the big stars are the main attraction, but this is untrue.

While they have affection for individual players, GAA people follow their club and county -- team members are considered privileged to wear that coveted jersey. This is why inter-county and club competitions have thrived for 13 decades, long before the current era of hype and "the big occasion", and why the recent inter-provincials in Croke Park -- despite gathering an impressive collection of star players -- were attended by less than 10,000 people.

And please, enough of the loaded terminology, like "crossing the picket line", to emotionally blackmail other players into supporting this "strike": nobody's employment is under threat, and replacements have every moral right to play. (Enough, also, of self-fulfilling prophecies which declare, like Sean Diffley in this paper on Saturday, that professionalism in the GAA is inevitable. It only is if you keep saying it is.) A GPA "strike" will not succeed, and should not. The GAA was set up as a cultural and community organisation, to foster indigenous games and arts.

It exists so that every child or adult who wants to play has a field, a dressing room, a hurley or football, and someone to coach them and arrange matches.

It is an elemental force in Irish life, and cannot be held hostage by a contentious, and tiny, group of elite players. (The GPA represents less than 2,000 members of an organisation totalling more than 800,000 -- not even a quarter of one per cent.)

The GAA is immeasurably bigger, and more important, than individual players, managers, club members, famous stars, media commentators or anybody else.

And it is worth preserving at any expense. The inter-county championship may be the jewel in the crown, but the GAA can survive without it.

But it won't come to that, anyway. Despite claims to the contrary, I don't believe the ordinary grassroots member supports this GPA brinkmanship; I don't even believe they support the principle of grant payments for inter-county players. Many nervously see it as the thin end of the wedge regarding full professionalism, and considering how money-oriented the GPA has proven itself, they are right to be nervous.

If I had GAA President Nickey Brennan on the phone, I would tell him, hold fast in the face of this provocation -- the people will support you.

Donal Og Cusack and his ilk endlessly recite the mantra, "It's all about respect". Well, you have to give respect if you want to receive it. Where is the GPA respect, for example, for GAA officials at all levels, those sneered-at "suits" who do the tedious, unglamorous jobs behind the scenes?

All they get is contempt and abuse, despite the fact that their dedication is as great as inter-county players and their work just as important.

Where is the respect for the club member who doesn't want to see his association threatened by avarice and discord? Or the hugely committed inter-county camogie player or women's footballer, or senior club player?

Here's one example: my father was club chairman for 18 years. He coached primary schools teams, boys and girls, under-age and adult club teams, played, attended meetings, drove us to matches, sold lotto tickets, helped gather the grass when the pitch was mown. Post-retirement he is still involved, as a club-man, supporter and selector on the county U21 football team.

People like this made the GAA the most remarkable sporting organisation on the planet.

To concede the principle of elitism, to stratify the assocation, to yield to threats and media pressure, to open up the appalling vista of professionalism, is to betray the values and principles that inspired them.

My father was not unique, but the GAA is -- let's keep it that way.

Darragh McManus is author of 'GAA Confidential (Everything you never knew you wanted to know about Gaelic games)'

- Darragh McManus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 13, 2007, 10:49:23 AM
Excellent articule, but does it not belong on another thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2007, 11:22:59 AM
are you sure you weren't there Skull? the first one went like that. he was playing half-forward high ball in he drew into the chb and well you know the rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 13, 2007, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2007, 08:36:53 AM
watched the game from the st pauls club rooms, well i was watching our footballers go down against St Pauls. the only two 'selectors' i seen on the line was Joe O'Neill and Jim Connolly, was it one of them?

oh and Shannon should have been sent off twice, the Loughgiel referee could have sent him off but being the last game maybe he couldn't be arsed

well it wasnt jim connolly!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 13, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
Was just wondering dose someone have, or know someone who has video footage of Antrim hurling games back as far as 86/87 to now. Currently trying to make you-tube video of Antrim hurling but badly need footage. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2007, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 13, 2007, 04:08:41 PM
And Shannon was playing........

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on November 13, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
Was just wondering dose someone have, or know someone who has video footage of Antrim hurling games back as far as 86/87 to now. Currently trying to make you-tube video of Antrim hurling but badly need footage. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Think that some initiatives to get as much old footage collected and digitised should done before the VHS tapes loose anymore of their quality. In Dunloy Baile an tuaigh our main source of video footage is Jarlath Cunning (son of Barney), I'm sure he'd be more than happy to provide you with some footage if you were after it. I'm sure he has stuff going back nearly 30 years.


BTW ...any word of you posting a few snaps this weather? Haven't seen anything from yourself in a long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2007, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on November 13, 2007, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2007, 08:36:53 AM
watched the game from the st pauls club rooms, well i was watching our footballers go down against St Pauls. the only two 'selectors' i seen on the line was Joe O'Neill and Jim Connolly, was it one of them?

oh and Shannon should have been sent off twice, the Loughgiel referee could have sent him off but being the last game maybe he couldn't be arsed

well it wasnt jim connolly!

I've just heard the same, so any Sherlock Holmes' out there can work out the culprit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 13, 2007, 04:53:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on November 13, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
Was just wondering dose someone have, or know someone who has video footage of Antrim hurling games back as far as 86/87 to now. Currently trying to make you-tube video of Antrim hurling but badly need footage. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Think that some initiatives to get as much old footage collected and digitised should done before the VHS tapes loose anymore of their quality. In Dunloy Baile an tuaigh our main source of video footage is Jarlath Cunning (son of Barney), I'm sure he'd be more than happy to provide you with some footage if you were after it. I'm sure he has stuff going back nearly 30 years.


BTW ...any word of you posting a few snaps this weather? Haven't seen anything from yourself in a long time.

Thanks for that information skull1. I know some of them Cunnings, my mother hails from Dunloy so I will have to get in contact with him. Hadn't access to a computer for a while because I moved house but should be back on the road again now. I posted some old pictures on Premierview so I will try and post the link for you. Thats if you havnt already seen them already.

Hope this link works. I have loads more just trying to relocate them. http://premierview.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=photo&action=display&thread=1174706965
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on November 13, 2007, 07:23:20 PM
I think we are going down a bad road lads when we start naming people in relation to incidents like that. Im not saying i dont agree with you all, but its not a fair avenue to use - with us really being anonymous posters.

Winker has indeed joined the panel - he is going to christmas and hopefully IF all goes well he will stay on. Neilly McGarry is another new comer onto the squad and eddie and johnny brings our tally up to four, which i think is a fair reflection. Johnny is going to have to get an operation on groin soon. Other than that i hear the training is very tough - strength and conditionin is the buzz word!! In other words a rigourous weights programme.

Will Dunloy start back shortly skull? What do you think your chances are?

Couldnt believe your footballers playing on our pitch :-[ :-[ Heard a few lads who took themselves out of the pub were hard to listen to from the crowd!!

What about next year lads? Cushendall - who will take your seniors?

I think Napper & Hooker want ours again. Probably will get it. But you never know with our club. i think that it wont matter cos its now down to the players to deliver.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
Shamrock it would be wonderful if names weren't mentioned on here and we were just talking about Antrim's tactics...whether to use the 2 man full forward line against Kilkenny in a semi final or such like but if we can't gossip about incidents etc then we'd be stuck for conversation!

Great to see Neil McGarry on there...consistent through the year.
Is Barney not on there? Harsh if he has been dropped - he did get taken to the cleaners by Ally Elliot in the county final (and if more ball had gone that way it would have been worse) but he still merits a place on the squad and if a yard of pace could be found from somewhere he'd be pushing to start (in my team anyway).

Would have loved to have been at Loughgeil if a couple of the old die hards had been driving past, not knowing the football was on, and taken a glance at the pitch on the way by...there would have been a few cars in the ditch with surprise!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on November 13, 2007, 10:35:41 PM
Hopefully Winker stays on the county panel as we need him...bigtime although he's never really done it at county level yet. Heard Michael Magill is back on the panel..how many chances has be had now??

Shamrock - God knows who will take our managers job. Not of the 3 that were there this year are going back. The talent is defo there & it could be a dream job for someone...but then again players attiudes will have to change.

Baile na Tuaigh, Jimmy Quinn(Glens of Antrim videos) from Cushendall would possibly have alot of footage from around that era.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 19, 2007, 11:41:48 PM
Dose anyone have a record of how Ulster clubs have performed in All-Ireland hurling semi-finals over the last fifteen years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 20, 2007, 02:23:04 AM
This is what I can gather from the www.

1991: Glenmore 1-18 Dunloy 1-10
1992: Birr (Offaly) 2-9 Cushendall 1-6
1993: Cushendall lost to St Gabriels in the quarter final I believe
1994: Toomevara 1-13 Ballycran (Down) 1-5
1995: Athenry(Galway) 1-11 Dunloy 2-10
1996: Glenmore  Dunloy (DUnloy won by 6 or 7 but can't remember the scoreline)
1997: Wolfe Tones (Clare) 2-8 Cushendall 1-10
1998: Sarsfields 2-14 Dunloy 1-9  (3-14 to 4-11 Drawn Game)
1999: Rathnure (Wexford) 2-19 Ballygalget (Down) 1-8
2000: St.Joseph's (Clare) 0-12 Cushendall 0-12
2000: St.Joseph's (Clare) 1-14 Cushendall 1-8 (replay)
2001: Athenry(Galway) 3-20 Dunloy 1-10
2002: Birr 2-12 Dunloy 1-11
2003: Mount Sion (Waterford) 1-13 - Dunloy 1-14
2004: Dunloy (Antrim) 2-13 Portumna 2-10
2005: James Stephens 0-17 O'Donovan Rossa (Antrim) 1-6
2006: Newtownshandrum 0-14  Ballygalget 1-10
2007: Loughrea (Galway) 1-11 Cushendall 0-9

oh fcuk is that the time...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 20, 2007, 09:04:07 PM
Thankyou very much "theskull1". Just wondering where or what web-site you found that information, its just I couldn't find it anywhere. Noticed a lot of people aren't given Dunloy any chance in this years champioship which to me considering their rich history is a surprise. This should be worth at least a couple of points to Dunloy if people are underestimating them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 20, 2007, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on November 20, 2007, 09:04:07 PM
Thankyou very much "theskull1". Just wondering where or what web-site you found that information, its just I couldn't find it anywhere. Noticed a lot of people aren't given Dunloy any chance in this years champioship which to me considering their rich history is a surprise. This should be worth at least a couple of points to Dunloy if people are underestimating them.

There wasn't a single page Baile an tuaigh. I thought there might have been and went off looking for it. Ended up building it up from individual google searches. Took longer than I thought. Ah well it's here for posterity.
Could believe I couldn't find the Glenmore Dunloy scoreline in 1996. The WWW has nothing on it as far as I could see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 22, 2007, 12:09:22 PM
I see our old friend Balboa has been banished for good from the board.  Not sure what he said but think it was something to do with mc conville.  Not like Balboa to enter into a good oul gossip/bitchin session!!  I have never seen a man with so many 'friend of a firiend of a friend of ....told me'  or ' i hear a rumour that'...    story lines.

How will he fill the day.


Free the Waterfoot One...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on November 22, 2007, 02:49:09 PM
It wasnt about Mc Conville, i think it was about Mc Gourty. There was a thread about it on main page but it has been removed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on November 22, 2007, 04:59:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2007, 04:54:49 PM
What happened, SeanSouth?
Pm me if you want to fly below the mods' radar.

PM Hardstation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on November 22, 2007, 08:17:47 PM
Balboa RIP!!!!!

Those Waterfoot men dont know to keep it shut ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 22, 2007, 09:12:46 PM
I thought he should have got a warning or a 5 day ban, has he been banned for good?. He's been fairly tame of late, but I suppose it was a very personal attack, so  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 09:00:37 AM
Any more word on the attendances at county training here it has been p*ss poor so far?

Think this could be the year the bubbles bursts just dont think we are bringing the right sort of players through with the right attitude, we have a serious amount of pre-madonna's now in there, could be a contest to see who has the ego or opinion of themselves!

Im not knocking them before they start but Im yet to see any evidence that S&W are having a positve influence on the county set up and by some of their panel selections this year think its going to be a while before they do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on November 23, 2007, 10:09:40 AM
I know the attendances at training this year are an average of 15 per training, with 5 - 7 usually turning up to see the physio. so that's usually 22 players per session. That isn't too bad for this time of year. When you add the few that have too many work commitments, dunloy players and St Galls players, you have a full panel. The lads have been training for about 6 weeks now and the results are really beginning to show on the guys that have been turning up. They are already starting to look stronger and bigger, which will especially help out the young lads. This is a new type of training for everyone and it has really raised the bar. Tommy Steveson is the trainer, and by all accounts he already has the full respect of the players. He is pushing the guys to new levels. hopefully they will be able to show this on the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 10:22:51 AM
Have we all missed something ogruairi?

I think that is a very rose tinted view of what is going on.
Is this trainer doing anything new that hasnt been done in the past number of years?

In my opinion he could be training the with the best intentions in the world but if they dont have the players then I honestly think they will struggle. Some of the panel memebers having watched nearly every championship match wouldnt get on either the cushendall or dunloy sides so what are they doing at the county?

Think the honeymoon is over and I will interested to see how we progress or IF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 23, 2007, 10:46:21 AM
What is the full panel btw? I can't remember seeing it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on November 23, 2007, 10:59:47 AM
Not sure of the Full panel Skull, but believe me this new trainer is doing something that hasn't ever been done in Antrim. He is using Ploymetrics, Aerobics, core training, stability ball training, punch bags, tackle bags, to name a few training techniques. All these training methods are being combined to create a tougher, stronger, faster, fitter Antrim team than anyother that has ever went across the border.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 11:14:22 AM
ogruairi

All of these techniques have been used on the past. Paul Murphy did all these training methods with the county guys before as well as a strict weights programme and was one of the first in Ireland to be using the SAQ method.

If you tell me that this current squad is as good as that squad then there is something wrong.

I hope he is doing a good job from what i hear he is being well paid for it but dont try and tell us he is doing anything new or revolutionary.

Skull - N.McAuley, M.Magill, S.Burke. C.McKinley? do I have to proceed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 23, 2007, 11:30:08 AM
NAG
Quote from: NAG on November 23, 2007, 11:14:22 AM


Skull - N.McAuley, M.Magill, S.Burke. C.McKinley? do I have to proceed?

You'll not convince me the panel isn't strong by naming these four players, Neil McAuley (Ballycastle) is a terrific player, C McKinley is on the u21 panel not the seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 11:57:35 AM
Max

OK go ahead an name me our go ahead players for this year then, players that are bursting on to the scene and going to make a big difference to our team?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on November 23, 2007, 12:26:35 PM
How many chances has Michael Magill had?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 01:40:50 PM
IMO one was too many.

The footballers chased him for indiscipline and the hurlers take him on board where is the logic in that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 23, 2007, 02:03:13 PM
I'm not saying that their is anyone going to burst onto the scene and make an huge impact, just that the four names you mentioned probaly don't deserve singled out as examples as all four are decent players and young mc kinley is training as an u21.

i think S&W are pinning alot of hope on the young players they brought through as minors, and good luck to them.  As a side issue, i've loosely picked a team of players who its expected will have no involvement with the county side, to me it looks a team as good as the actual team and if Ciaran Herron has retired as has been remoured then it certainly would stand to comparison

DD Quinn, Barney, Odhran Scullion , Ding Gillan, Mal Molloy, Kevin Elliott, Damien McMullan, Martin Scullion, Aiden Delargy, Liam Richmond, Malachy Dallas, Johnny Tosh, Ally Elliott, Dick O'Kane, Brian McFall

Certainly think Sambo and Woody would love if he had players of the calibre of O'Kane and Elliott coming through again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 23, 2007, 03:03:18 PM
Max

I wasnt singling these players out as being particularly bad players I know they are young and to be honest I made a mistake with N/McAuley (whom i think is a smasher) I meant the full back from loughgiel drafted on this year. I have to say that it is ok pinning their hopes on these young players but in my opinion they are not capable of delivering what we expect from out county standard players, which is not to be bullied physically by the teams down south and to be able to stand up to certain challenges in a game as well as being able to hurl when on the ball. This was the type of thing that we had under Dinny when there a was a good blend of experience and youth.

Are we honestly any further on this year than we were last or are we infact going backwards?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogruairi on November 23, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
It is only November but yes I would say the hurlers are further forward than they were last year and that can quite easily be seen in the training taking place at the minute. There is no mistaking that Paul Murphy's training was excellent and brought the players on very well, but the lads now are bigger after only 6 weeks of the new training than they were after 6 months of the old training. The first target is not to be walked over by teams in the south, and if this training keeps going the way it is, then this will surely happen. And on the matter of this new guy getting well paid! What of it? Some trainers have to get paid, and he is a top quality trainer so he should be well paid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2007, 05:15:03 PM
It's a bit early in the year for such negativity. Physical presence is something we lack and now is the time to build it up and do the hurling come brighter / dryer nights so sounds to me like the way forward for the time being at least.

Don't think any progress can be judged until we see evidence on the field but we'd all be reasonably hopeful.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballboa on November 23, 2007, 09:27:52 PM
Tosh is not packing it in, he got a sickener alright this year and needed a break but he will be back for Glenariffe in the new year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 23, 2007, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ballboa on November 23, 2007, 09:27:52 PM
Tosh is not packing it in, he got a sickener alright this year and needed a break but he will be back for Glenariffe in the new year.
HE'S BACK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2J_n8_x11g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2J_n8_x11g)

Welcome back Rocky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballboa on November 23, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
Cheers Skull, its great to be back. I have been running a supervisory eye over the board the last few days though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 24, 2007, 10:53:56 AM
What's the answer NAG - you're pretty pessimistic. Do we just give up trying altogether then?

Neil McGarry is the full back you were talking about - most consistent in the Antrim championship this year. Don't know him that well but know of him and one thing he won't do is mess around/miss training/act the prima donna. Maybe a few more characters that don't feel its their god given right to be on the panel might push us on.
As for Magill he's back training away with the footballers as well I believe. Good on him, as good a talent as we have in both codes.

Where is the experience you talk about NAG? Karl McKeegan in my opinion is a class act and still one of the driving forces behind the team. Then as experience goes there may be a bit of a gap - what's the solution? recall Pinky (who I think has gone), Dick, Ally, McFall all of whom were great players for Antrim but have dutifully served and moved on and I would argue couldn't be coaxed out of retirement for love nor money.

I have to say Max naming a possible team is pointless...those players are all great players and it makes good reading for a team but about 4/5 of them are young enough/would be willing whether through tiredness, apathy, family, work commitments etc to put in the effort required to give a season with Antrim a real good go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on November 24, 2007, 12:33:51 PM
It takes major commitment plus talent to play at County level. You won't get away with one without the other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on November 25, 2007, 12:48:54 PM
Have to agree with glensman......

Neilly Mcgarry is a deserving member of the county panel. We havent got any outstanding full backs. He was super for us this year. In actual fact i cant recall any one giving him a testing time. He is a great athlete who looks after himself well regarding diet, weights etc and is extremely self motivted. Now if we had a few more like him around we would have aul big ears :(

When you read some of the negative stuff written here its no wonder we never achieve

p.s welcome back ballboa!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on November 25, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
Ballboa got the hammer again i think, they must have noticed he came back in under his new alias.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 26, 2007, 05:33:04 PM
Anybody know how Dunloy's preparations are going for the All-Ireland semifinal. They are now in a great position with only one game away, for another shot at trying to win the "big one". Just interested to see how focused they were this year as opposed to other years. Like hows training going have they many challenge matches lined up etc..

Was browsing through other GAA internet sites and by the talk or lack of is the case, there is very little or practicaly no mention of Dunloy. Which is a surprise to me considering they have an excellant record in semi-finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 30, 2007, 01:02:50 PM
I hear Dunloy have started back and all.

They have some guy from fitness first in ballymena taking care of the fitness end of things, talking to a dunloy man earlier in the week and he said the plan is to have the fitness work squared away by early Jan and then concentrate on the hurling from then to the game with a few good quality challenge games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on November 30, 2007, 02:35:47 PM
Is that not a big problem for teams at that time of theyear, getting quality challenge games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 30, 2007, 03:19:06 PM
I always thought that at this time of year that the southern universities were the way to go in terms of challenge games. They are getting ready for their season and are young and eager and willing to play these games.

Cant think of any other games except against coutny teams that wpuld be of as much use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on November 30, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
Cushendall played UUC(Cork) & UCD(Dublin) last year & they were good matches...especially the UUC match which had the likes of John Tennyason from K'Kenny & Niall Moran from Limerick, this would be a great match to get. Only problem is the travelling which takes up a full weekend.

Obviously Dunloy will know how to prepare having been there before on numerous occasions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
What's the likelihood of the ACHL going to a top 8 league next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
What's the likelihood of the ACHL going to a top 8 league next year?

I have heard the bottom 3 are going down, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg and Ballycran/Rossa? I have also heard that only Sarsfields are down, as usual it is all shrouded in mystery and nobody seems to know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
What's the likelihood of the ACHL going to a top 8 league next year?

I have heard the bottom 3 are going down, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg and Ballycran/Rossa? I have also heard that only Sarsfields are down, as usual it is all shrouded in mystery and nobody seems to know.

Rossa are two points behind Ballycran and both have all their games played according to the Antrim web site, so that'd mean Rossa going down. I really can't see that happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:25:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
What's the likelihood of the ACHL going to a top 8 league next year?

I have heard the bottom 3 are going down, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg and Ballycran/Rossa? I have also heard that only Sarsfields are down, as usual it is all shrouded in mystery and nobody seems to know.

Rossa are two points behind Ballycran and both have all their games played according to the Antrim web site, so that'd mean Rossa going down. I really can't see that happening.

There is more chance of hell freezing over than Rossa being relegated, even though the results dont lie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 05, 2007, 01:54:17 PM
Meant to be a slick enough production

NORTH ANTRIM LAUNCHES THE "COACHING THE GOALKEEPER" DVD IN THE LEIGHMHOR HOUSE ON FRI 7TH @2PM. 29 November 2007 A DVD produced by the North Antrim Coaching and Development Committee to be used as a coaching aid for goalkeepers from underage to senior level. It is introduced by Shane Elliott and features Shamrocks keeper DD Quinn, Ruairi Ogs Goalie Ronan Kearney, and Ballygalget and Down number one Graham Clarke. The dvd is a very high quality production, shot in Casement Park over the summer, it will give coaches 25 different drills to pick and choose from to put together a session which can also be used for outfield players. It is accepted now in coaching circles that their is a need for specialised goalkeeping drills, this dvd gives club coaches access to this type of specialised information that was not previously available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 05, 2007, 01:54:17 PM
Meant to be a slick enough production

NORTH ANTRIM LAUNCHES THE "COACHING THE GOALKEEPER" DVD IN THE LEIGHMHOR HOUSE ON FRI 7TH @2PM. 29 November 2007 A DVD produced by the North Antrim Coaching and Development Committee to be used as a coaching aid for goalkeepers from underage to senior level. It is introduced by Shane Elliott and features Shamrocks keeper DD Quinn, Ruairi Ogs Goalie Ronan Kearney, and Ballygalget and Down number one Graham Clarke. The dvd is a very high quality production, shot in Casement Park over the summer, it will give coaches 25 different drills to pick and choose from to put together a session which can also be used for outfield players. It is accepted now in coaching circles that their is a need for specialised goalkeeping drills, this dvd gives club coaches access to this type of specialised information that was not previously available.

Should we charge you for that plug?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 05, 2007, 02:00:50 PM
All money goes to the development of Antrim Hurling!

A bit gutted that Big Niall wasn't asked back to do a sector on it. Haven't seen it but it would have made me buy it for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 05, 2007, 02:13:01 PM
Thats a great idea and should be a useful coaching aid for coaches across the county.

Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on December 05, 2007, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
What's the likelihood of the ACHL going to a top 8 league next year?

I have heard the bottom 3 are going down, Sarsfields, Lamh Dhearg and Ballycran/Rossa? I have also heard that only Sarsfields are down, as usual it is all shrouded in mystery and nobody seems to know.

No-one knows because it hasn;t been decided and in fact no proposals have been made yet.  How can you expect proposals to be finalised when until sunday we didn;t even know what clubs finished in the relegation zones in some leagues. :P  Clubs, CCC etc need a chance to see who  who they can really shaft or need to provide a life-line to before they agree changes.  Just because the likes of Cloughmills slogged their guts out all year to go through Div 3 unbeaten and win it doesn;t mean they will be promoted next year,they might still find themselves in Div 3. >:(

There were a number of motions around leagues and championship at the convention on sunday but they were all deferred until the first county meeting next year to allow the CCC to present their thoughts.  There was discussion around a proposal to make league changes effective 1 year down the line but it didn't get much support at all...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 05, 2007, 04:51:01 PM
I agree with podge. Constant chopping an changing of the leagues devalue them.

Glenarm deserve the chance to pit themselves against the best in the county. Similarly Cloughmills deserve a go at Div 2.
Whoever gets relegated from Div 1 deserves it and though great to see Armoy winning the Junior Championship and going on to the All Ireland series they did not win 1 game in Div 2 and as such deserve to be in Div 3.

The arguments are there for cutting a few from Div 1 and then moving down the leagues to form 4 divisions but constantly tinkering with the leagues will not work.

Going up from Div 3 - there maybe was a slight gap between Cloughmills/St Agnes'/ St Theresa's/ Ballymena and the rest but the likes of Larne need to be playing those teams week in week out to improve. Likewise the bottom of Division 1 need to be given the opportunity to play the big guns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 05, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
Glensman, Armoy wont be going down as McDermotts failed to field for most of the season and will be going down in our place, if the leagues stay as they currently are. If Div 1 goes to 8 teams it is all up in the air. Personally I liked 8 teams in each league which we had about 10 years ago however I think it should be brought forward as a proposal for season 2009 and let everyone fight for the league positions this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on December 05, 2007, 10:44:40 PM
Will the outstanding fixtures in Division 1 be fulfilled, a few teams still have one more game to play. If they did go to an 8 team Division 1 they would have to be all played to finalise standings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 06, 2007, 07:23:24 PM
just came across this interesting piece while browsing the internet. The song gives a referance to Hurling so I thought some of you might enjoy it

The Song Airde Cuan
The song Airde Cuan (sometimes also given as "Árd Tí Cuan" or "Ardí Cuain") is regarded as one of the finest songs in Irish Gaelic. It is an emigrant song about a place near Cushendun, on the North side of Glendun. On this map it lies between Bunavoher and Clady Bridge on the Glendun Road. The song was made by John McCambridge (Seán Mac Ambróis) a native of Mullarts between Cushendun and Cushendall (at the bottom of the map). Recent research has shown that he belonged to a failrly affluent Presbyterian family and ended up working first in tanning leather at Broughshane and later in the timber import business in Larne. He married into the wealthy Dixon family, who house at Dunmurry, Belfast is now part of a public park (Sir Thomas and Lady Dixon Park). John had a passionate interest in the Irish Language which was spoken by most of the natives in the Glens in the mid-19th Century when he composed this. He writes from the perspective of a Glensman who has moved over to Ayrshire, Scotland, from where he can still see the hills of Antrim, and he longs for his home in Glendun, in Airde Cuan.

Áirde Cuain

Dá mbeinn féin in Airde Cuain,
in aice an tsléibhe úd atá i bhfad uaim
B'annamh liom gan dul ar cuairt
go Gleann na gCuach de Domhnaigh

Cúrfa:
Agus och, och, Éire uilig is ó,
Éire lionn dubh agus ó
Is é mo chroí atá trom is bronach.


Is iomaí Nollaig a bhí mé féin
i mBun Abhann Doinne is mé gan chéill
ag iomáint ar an Trá Bhán
is mo chamán bán i mo dhorn liom

Cúrfa

Nach tuirseach mise anseo liom féin
nach n-airím guth coiligh, londubh nó traon,
gealbhán, smólach, naoscach féin
is chan aithním féin an Domhnach.

Cúrfa

Is é seo an choraíocht atá buan
is ar an tsaol seo go gcuirfeadh sé cluain
Mheallfadh sé an chaora ón uan
agus mheall sé uaimse an óige.

Cúrfa

Muna mbeadh agam féin ach coite is rámh
le go n-iomróinn ar an tsnámh
ag dúil le Dia go sroichfinn slán
is go bhfaighinnse bás in Éirinn.

Cúrfa
  I wish I was in Airde Cuan,
Beside yon mountain that is so far from me
I would love to go on a vist to
to the Cuckoo Glen (Glendun) on Sunday

Chorus:
And och, och, all Ireland, ó
Ireland, sadness and ó
My heart is heavy and sad.


Many's a Christmas I myself was
In Cushendun without a care
Playing hurling on the white beach
My white hurley stick in my hand.

Chorus

Aren't I weary here alone by myself?
Where I don't hear cry of c**k, blackbird or corncrake,
Sparrow, thrush or even the snipe,
And I can't tell which day is Sunday.

Chorus

This is an endless struggle,
And it makes life an illusion.
It separates the sheep from the lambs
and it separates me from my youth.

Chorus

If I only had a boat and an oar
to row over the waves
hoping to God to arrive safely
And so to die in Ireland.

Chorus


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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on December 06, 2007, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on December 05, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
Glensman, Armoy wont be going down as McDermotts failed to field for most of the season and will be going down in our place, if the leagues stay as they currently are. If Div 1 goes to 8 teams it is all up in the air. Personally I liked 8 teams in each league which we had about 10 years ago however I think it should be brought forward as a proposal for season 2009 and let everyone fight for the league positions this year.


I admire your optomism slow.  I stated on here before that, in the circumstances i.e mc dermotts withdrawing, that armoy should be allowed to stay in div 2.   all things being equal, no team in Div 3 will be unduly punished.

But whats to stop the CCC/any club proposing say a 10 team div 1 and 10 in div 2.  or 8 team div 1 and 8 team div 2. surely something like that could put armoy down?

and  (nothing personal against glen rovers) but even worse than armoy going down in either of those scenarios  is that c'mills could be denied the chance to go up.

I have no idea what will happen and thats what 'grinds my gears'.   the hurling leagues are over weeks ago and we still don;t know who's up, who';s down etc. we should have stuck to the rules as laid out at the start of the year. i am not against change but it should be considered at the correct time.

the CCC could dream anything up.  and to add to the insult, it will voted on by the clubs, 25% of whom are probably football only clubs who have little care for or knowledge of hurling so are probably going to push anything through. 

and we heard on sunday how antrim senior hurlers were shafted when the new liam mc carthy rules were passed, partly because the 20 counties who were unaffected by it had a say in it and didn;t care either way..

...pot and kettle me thinks...


p.s slow, are you's still training away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 06, 2007, 08:33:47 PM
still training podge, mainly indoor stuff weights etc, we play again in January. If they change the league structures then everything is up in the air and we will have to play where we are put as will everyone else. If they have eight teams league we will be in Div3 but alongside rasharkin, ahoghill, Tir Na Og, cloughmills etc which would be an OK league for us. As I said i dont mind an eight team league but I think it should be brought in for 2009 and everyone plays for places in 2008.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SeanSouth on December 06, 2007, 10:08:22 PM
There was a post on the official Antrim site regarding the makeup of 2008 leagues,as usual you get the "nothing to do with us" non answer. I sometimes wonder what purpose that guestbook serves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on December 07, 2007, 08:32:39 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on December 06, 2007, 08:33:47 PM
still training podge, mainly indoor stuff weights etc, we play again in January. If they change the league structures then everything is up in the air and we will have to play where we are put as will everyone else. If they have eight teams league we will be in Div3 but alongside rasharkin, ahoghill, Tir Na Og, cloughmills etc which would be an OK league for us. As I said i dont mind an eight team league but I think it should be brought in for 2009 and everyone plays for places in 2008.

I think you'll find ahoghill/clooney and tir na og are both reasonably far up div 2, clooney were close to winning.   someone said before that the bottom 4 in div 2 were the 4 finalists in junior and intermediate- armoy, 'sharkin. st pauls and c'dun.  so conceivably you could have those 4 going down to div 3 :-[   a combination of proposals could actually see c'dun in div 3 and palying in the senior c'ship as intermediate champions ::) good fun for them...

but sure its alll just speculation at this stage

Quote from: SeanSouth on December 06, 2007, 10:08:22 PM
There was a post on the official Antrim site regarding the makeup of 2008 leagues,as usual you get the "nothing to do with us" non answer. I sometimes wonder what purpose that guestbook serves.


In fairness Seansouth, it is the clubs who decide in the end. 

Its seems there is general agreement that the whole process and timing of it could be improved and the communication could be better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on December 07, 2007, 08:52:41 AM
Here's the clubs in the order in which they finished last year. I think splitting back into 4 Divisions gives you better balanced leagues. You cab argue about shifting clubs about between the Divisions - for example Glenarm in Div 1 and Rossa in Div 2 - but overall I think this looks like a better set up.

Div 1
Loughgiel Shamrocks
Dunloy
Portaferry
Cushendall
Ballygalget
Ballycastle
Glenariff
St. Johns
St. Galls
Ballycran
Rossa

Div 2
Lamh Dhearg
Sarsfields
Shane O Neills
Gort Na Mona
Gaeil Chluana
Glenravel
Carey Faughs
Tir na Nog
Cushendun
St. Pauls

Div 3
Rasharkin
Armoy
Cloughmills
St. Teresas
St. Endas
St. Agnes
Ballymena
Ardoyne

Div 4
Davitts
Bredagh IIs
O Mitchel Og
Larne
St. Pauls IIs
Sarsfields IIs
Creggan Gaels
Na fuiseoig
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 07, 2007, 08:54:39 AM
The key to getting good league structures in place at all level in the county is getting the word out there.

How many teams are in each league?
Is it one way or two way?
How many are relegated at the end of the year?
What nights or days the fixtures are to take place?
No cancellation of games without a valid and serious reason and no cancellation without the date for the refixed game being in place, otherwise the game goes ahead or the team unwilling to field gives the points away.

If these are in place and the county games are catered for as well as our own championships then there is absolutely no reason why the leagues should not be finished in good time. Down and Tyrone can do this every year with a full two way fixture log and they are finished in good time as well with little or no cancellations or postponements.

Time we had our house in order and got this sorted finally then we can build on a base of regular hurling and football at club level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 07, 2007, 11:06:56 PM
Don't think you could do any better than that G2, looks well balanced from 1 to 4. If certain teams don't let their egos cloud their thinking then they should be looking for this. Whats the chances of good sense though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 08, 2007, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on December 07, 2007, 11:06:56 PM
Don't think you could do any better than that G2, looks well balanced from 1 to 4. If certain teams don't let their egos cloud their thinking then they should be looking for this. Whats the chances of good sense though.

Was going to say so myself Last Man before I weighed in behind your reply. Div 1/2&3 to me anyway look very well balanced
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on December 08, 2007, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 08, 2007, 01:37:53 AM
What should the tables for next year look like without re-jigging them?
I mean, what were the regulations for promotion/relegation at the start of the year?

One up and one down at each level was my understanding, the issue being clouded by mc d's withdrawl. 

so sars down to div 2 with glenarm up, armoy/no-one down to div 3 with cloughmills up.


Guillem2, those leagues look fair enough. personally i would have more in div 2 and less in div 1 as there is more scope for playing matches at that level-not as many players involved at county level so matches can pretty much carry on.

Now if was cloughmills man, i would be fairly pissed off if this structure went through.  thye have been trying to get out of div 3 for a few years now and went through this year unbeaten in league to win the league.  this sytem gives them no reward at all, just two teams down into it.

the same could possibly said for glenarm but i don't think they will be that bothered.   i think they realise they will not be able to compete in div 1 long term.  having said that, they have earned the right.   cloughmills are a very progressive club with a bit of up and coming talent so medium/long term thay probably view themselves as a Div 2 team and want to get in there.

maybe i am wrong- any clougmills, shano o'neills posters?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on December 08, 2007, 01:08:31 PM
Fair points Podge but it all depends on how you see the league.

I've always seen it as a stepping stone to the championship. That's not to say you don't want to win it but I think it's more important to give your team 14-18 challenging league matches to allow them to play to their potential going into the championship.

You could make the case for Rossa playing Div 2 next year and it would be hard to argue against based on some of our performances this year. Ballycran would be far to strong for Div 2 as they showed during the championship.

I don't think it would do Glenarm much good playing in Div 1 next year. They should be aiming to win a stronger Div 2 and the IHC.

It is tough on Cloughmills I admit but again they would be playing in a far more competitive Div 3 next year and should be aiming for promotion and the JHC. Many of the matches in Div 3 this year were conceeded because teams knew they were mis-matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 10, 2007, 09:47:41 AM
An 11 team Div1 means 10 games a year, is this enough or is it the case where the UHL and in the case of North Antrim clubs thing like the Feis pick up the slack??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on December 11, 2007, 09:07:20 PM
I think you're right Johnnycool. The Ulster League and other competition can take up some of the slack. There is no point in Cushendall beating Sarsfields by 20 pts in the Antrim league. A game against Dungiven or Slaughneil in UHL will do them more good.

Is it not time the Down teams ran a senior league? Maybe with your Nickey Rackard Team competing against the senior clubs? Even a few ganmes would be worth while but I hear there was fun & games at the last Ards derby!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 13, 2007, 04:40:03 PM
Final of Ulster League

Dunloy v Loughgeil

Cloughmills 2pm Sunday.

Worth a look to see how Dunloy are shaping up and if Loughgeil can get some revenge for the championship defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 13, 2007, 05:13:25 PM
with the pressure off loughgiel i think they may turn Dunloy over. whats Cloughmills pitch like? thats a home venue for both really.

is the pitch on the road out of Cloughmills towards Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 13, 2007, 06:13:38 PM
It's about a 1/3 of a mile out of C'mills on the RHS, down a lane along side a big feic off house. You can see the posts from the road.
Hurling only club so no big holes and bare patches but not sure how its holding up with all the wet weather. I'd say it's as good as there is about at this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 14, 2007, 10:51:34 AM
at our AGM last night we have voted to go against the league format for the Championship. think this could be a good thing and will also stop the late games when there's no light. teams travelling to ballycastle or belfast for a game at 6.30 pm was complete madness. and some times may win the odd match, Obviously the big teams usually get to the final but the open draw can throw in some great games.

in the football not too long ago we played Cargin in a prelim. game and it was a cracker with the defending Ulster Champions getting knocked out. so i'm all for the shock factor that may happen. and there must not be seeding either, as it's exactly the same with the top teams making there way to the semi finals.

also we were told of the Ulster hurling fixtures Sat night from april through to the start of June. this will most surely give us two games in a row. not good for us Dual clubs. but we'll carry on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 14, 2007, 11:34:42 PM
does anyone have a full list of the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 17, 2007, 10:57:27 AM
Dunloy 2-13 Loughgeil 1-7 I think was the final scoreline.

Comfortable enough win for Dunloy. To be expected as they have started back training but they looked sharp enough and good sign that there were quiet a few regulars on the bench. Thought Darren Quinn looked sharp and Paudie Shivers turning into a  good hurler.

Winker sent off (I would have bet my house on it if I had one). Two yellows, could have been about 7 but Ray Matthews ussed a bit of licence to give Loughgeil a chance. His licence was arguably within the spirit of what the game should have been and the game largely was but it could have seen someone get a leg broke.

On another note - hope to see more championship matches in Cloughmills. Super pitch generally and the condition it was in at this time of year was great.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on December 17, 2007, 11:39:39 AM
Did many turn up? It's a terrible time of year to be holding a league final in hurling. Mind you it was probably a good work out for Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on December 17, 2007, 01:41:27 PM
Winker will need to calm down whenever he's playing at Mourneview Park. Heard he got a trial at Glenavon. Could be false though. Is he turning up for the county? Actually is anyone turning up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 17, 2007, 03:00:14 PM
Hard to calculate how many showed up...from where I was stood I'd say about 200-300 but hard to know.
Crowd less that it would have been given the baltic conditions and the Man Utd v Liverpool games I'd say.

Agree about the work out. As long as no-one got injured (which was fortunate) it will have done Dunloy good. Would be rare enough for teams to be getting challenge matches at this time of year.

Firmly agree about the day that was in it - baltic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on December 18, 2007, 02:37:51 PM
Quote from: Ruairi Og exile on December 17, 2007, 01:41:27 PM
Winker will need to calm down whenever he's playing at Mourneview Park. Heard he got a trial at Glenavon. Could be false though. Is he turning up for the county? Actually is anyone turning up?

Saw him play for Ballycastle Utd a couple of times in past few weeks, along with half of loughgiel as well. He was superb. Few Cushendall & Glenariffe players playing soccer for the 2 teams in Carnlough as well i see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 18, 2007, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 17, 2007, 10:57:27 AM
Winker sent off (I would have bet my house on it if I had one). Two yellows, could have been about 7 but Ray Matthews ussed a bit of licence to give Loughgeil a chance. His licence was arguably within the spirit of what the game should have been and the game largely was but it could have seen someone get a leg broke.

How annoying is it for loughgiel supporters to have such a perickson (edited) as your talisman?  The man was interested in nothing else other than dirt. I'm all for hard tough play, but that was just dirt. If Ray was interested in spirt of the game then he shouldn't have let watson take the game to where he wanted to. I counted 6 ticks after his first yellow card. It was obvious that he thought he was going to get away with being loose. Bad refereeing to allow such malicious play to go on. We were lucky to have no one badly injured as a result of such leniancy.

Anyway...I enjoyed the game. Agree with Glensman about Paudie. He's came on great for us this year even though at times he has struggled. He'll get more consistent as he goes on. In fact the whole back line looked comfortable throughout. Thought Sunday showed the strength we have as a panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on December 18, 2007, 09:33:22 PM
Think your being harsh on liam. Granted he deserved to be sent off in the end, but horse, and your centre back shud have went also for serious poor tackles/slaps on watson. Some of the knocks he has taken over the years, he at least is sticking up for himself....if some of our other lads were like that we wud be in a better position noW!!

Dunloy will need a few tough games in new year to get up to speed for birr. I would like to see them do it. Honestly it wud give hurling in the glens a lift and motivate the rest of us to try and make the breakthrough. Hooker & napper are staying on with us next year. Hopefully Cassidy will be with them, as i firmly believe he has an important part to play if we are going to make breakthrou
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 05, 2008, 05:07:56 PM
very quiet here, any news on the team?
hows training going? any new blood?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 07, 2008, 10:00:09 AM
Heard the boys drew with Jordanstown in a friendly at the weekend was anyone there any idea of the teams played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 11, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
a draw with jordanstown  :-\
any games this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 11, 2008, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 11, 2008, 03:35:33 PM
Awful slow going on the hurling front.

It is, Dunloy to play Birr in Clones on February 24th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 11, 2008, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 11, 2008, 03:47:15 PM
Have Dunloy been playing many 'friendly' matches?
I'll hopefully make it to Clones.

Skull1 & Max could fill us in, Skull has been quiet since he was verbally sparring with Max a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on January 11, 2008, 04:42:53 PM
They play Down on Sunday according to todays Irish News.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 11, 2008, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 11, 2008, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 11, 2008, 03:47:15 PM
Have Dunloy been playing many 'friendly' matches?
I'll hopefully make it to Clones.

Skull1 & Max could fill us in, Skull has been quiet since he was verbally sparring with Max a few weeks ago.

Kept looking over my shoulder for a bit of back up on that we spat and didn't get it....humph. Where were you Terry me old china when I needed you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 13, 2008, 11:20:18 PM
from the couty website:

Antrim 4.17 Laois 1.20
Antrim hurlers fared much better in a challenge match with Laois played in Dublin. Played over 4 periods of 20 minutes, the management team will have been pleased to have had this run-our prior to next week's clash with All Ireland champions Kilkenny in the Walsh Cup. Without the Dunloy contingent and another few regulars missing through injury such as Michael Herron, both these counties are expected to struggle in this year's National League.  Next week's clash with the Cats will take place in Freshford and will give the Ulster champions another solid test as they prepare for a tough National league campaign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on January 14, 2008, 08:31:42 AM
There's a meeting tonight to agree on the hurling leagues for the coming season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 14, 2008, 09:32:27 AM
Dunloy 3.21 Down 3.12

Good start for Dunloy although still a bit of work to do by all accounts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 14, 2008, 11:13:09 PM
Just heard the new decision on the leagues.

There are to be 30 leagues - each team to be in their own league so that the good people of each club in Antrim have some success. 1 gets promoted from each league, no relegation. The t**ker man himself Claudio Ranieri has taken over from the good doctor as county chairman and has laid down a rule if you have ever played senior championship, or if your father's father played senior championship then that's what your club will play. Same applies with intermediate.

God only knows what will come out of the meeting tonight.

Fingers crossed it stays as it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2008, 08:17:48 AM
Personally I thought the proposals for a 10 team two way league would be much better from a Div 1 hurling perspective. From my limited knowledge of the proposed lower leagues, they looked fairly well balanced as well. Someone can tell me different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 15, 2008, 09:13:04 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on December 07, 2007, 08:52:41 AM
Here's the clubs in the order in which they finished last year. I think splitting back into 4 Divisions gives you better balanced leagues. You cab argue about shifting clubs about between the Divisions - for example Glenarm in Div 1 and Rossa in Div 2 - but overall I think this looks like a better set up.

Div 1
Loughgiel Shamrocks
Dunloy
Portaferry
Cushendall
Ballygalget
Ballycastle
Glenariff
St. Johns
St. Galls
Ballycran
Rossa

Div 2
Lamh Dhearg
Sarsfields
Shane O Neills
Gort Na Mona
Gaeil Chluana
Glenravel
Carey Faughs
Tir na Nog
Cushendun
St. Pauls

Div 3
Rasharkin
Armoy
Cloughmills
St. Teresas
St. Endas
St. Agnes
Ballymena
Ardoyne

Div 4
Davitts
Bredagh IIs
O Mitchel Og
Larne
St. Pauls IIs
Sarsfields IIs
Creggan Gaels
Na fuiseoig

Just to remind everyone this was Guillem2s suggestion a few weeks back and if all clubs looked at the situation objectively I think they would have to agree this is where we are in terms of grading and these leagues should prove to be competitive which at the end of the day is what it is all about. LD had a proposal at the meeting to go back to the Div 1a and 1b setup we had a few years ago which is plainly aiming to ensure that they maintain Div 1 status where it has been shown this year that they cant cut it. They probably fear an exodus of their better players down to the Shaw's or Whiterock Rd. The biggest problem with this that it does not treat the current problem in the current Div 3 which has been a joke this year with the no. of failures to field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2008, 11:29:07 AM
Not going there again (well ok a little) but Shane ONeills (Glenarm) won division 2 and Cloughmills won division 3 last year - it must be pretty heartbreaking for those two teams if the leagues are changed to see the 4 division format as suggested.
The 4 divisions do look quite well balanced but where is the reward for efforts last year if the carpet is swept away from under them.

Skull - as an outsider your league campaign seemed to help you along the way last year so Division 1 arguably isn't a concern. Most fixtures were fulfilled and you had a few tight games.

Div 2 was quite competitive with a few contenders (Cloney, Randalstown) before Glenarm won it.
Div 3 any one of St Theresa's, Ardoyne, St Enda's, Cloughmills or Ballymena could have won it.

Division 3 (old) Division 4 (newly suggested) will always have issues - some of those teams barely have teams and are not great at fulfilling fixtures. It will be the same problem whether as Div 3 or Div 4. Now I am not degrading any of the teams concerned in the slightest - its just fact. For the relatively progressive clubs in that sector (Larne to name one) its also a step back to not have better teams to aspire to play - the St Theresa's, Ardoyne, St Enda's, Cloughmills or Ballymena or this world.

I'd be interested to see what North Antrim Coaster thinks of how this would affect Larne.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
I agree that the likes of Glenarm would be pretty pissed if the leagues have been changed (has anybody heard anything yet?). It would be a great headline for the club for them to say that they had made it into Div 1. But I do feel that on current standards that they wouldn't benefit in the medium term from going up into a 13 team Div 1 league. I think they would find (as have others) it very demoralising after a very short time. Much better for them IMO to push on against the teams who may come back down into Div 2 and try and compete with those teams first. If they keep pushing and developing then there is no reason that they could make it into Div 1 in the next few years only at that stage they would be in a better position to compete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on January 15, 2008, 04:35:22 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 15, 2008, 11:29:07 AM
Not going there again (well ok a little) but Shane ONeills (Glenarm) won division 2 and Cloughmills won division 3 last year - it must be pretty heartbreaking for those two teams if the leagues are changed to see the 4 division format as suggested.
The 4 divisions do look quite well balanced but where is the reward for efforts last year if the carpet is swept away from under them.

Skull - as an outsider your league campaign seemed to help you along the way last year so Division 1 arguably isn't a concern. Most fixtures were fulfilled and you had a few tight games.

Div 2 was quite competitive with a few contenders (Cloney, Randalstown) before Glenarm won it.
Div 3 any one of St Theresa's, Ardoyne, St Enda's, Cloughmills or Ballymena could have won it.

Division 3 (old) Division 4 (newly suggested) will always have issues - some of those teams barely have teams and are not great at fulfilling fixtures. It will be the same problem whether as Div 3 or Div 4. Now I am not degrading any of the teams concerned in the slightest - its just fact. For the relatively progressive clubs in that sector (Larne to name one) its also a step back to not have better teams to aspire to play - the St Theresa's, Ardoyne, St Enda's, Cloughmills or Ballymena or this world.

I'd be interested to see what North Antrim Coaster thinks of how this would affect Larne.


You make a fair point but one of the biggest problems in recent years have been the constant tinkering with the Leagues. A few years ago we (Larne) had one of our best League seasons in years, a few dropped points that really shouldn't have been dropped kept us out of the play-offs. We had a team meeting at the start of January and the resolve was to build on that and make a real promotion push.
Then the Leagues were changed and our goal became mid-table because a pile of teams out of our league at that stage were brought into the equation. The following season didn't go well. Things picked up last year and the make-up of our team now, heavily weighted towards youth, would benefit from being in a genuine Division Four, one we can win (though it's not just about being able to say we're Division Four champions and pick up points from teams not fielding) so we can earn our way towards playing the better teams you mention, a few of whom we'll probably be playing in the Championship and North Antrim competitions anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 15, 2008, 06:35:13 PM
Cloughmills and Glenarm may feel agrieved if these proposals are accepted but what's the point of taking promotion into a division that they will not compete in. Glenarm have made powerful advances over the last 5 years and credit to them but I don't think they will make any impact in Div 1 just yet. Likewise C'mills were very consistent all year and carrying top form into the championship but were put to the sword by Armoy,who were bottom of Div2. We cant leave things for another year, action needs to be taken now and as much as I feel a little sorry for clubs wanting to take their promotion this should not take precidence over getting the competitive bite back into Antrim Hurling at all levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 15, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on January 15, 2008, 06:35:13 PM
We cant leave things for another year, action needs to be taken now and as much as I feel a little sorry for clubs wanting to take their promotion this should not take precidence over getting the competitive bite back into Antrim Hurling at all levels.

This crazy notion that somehow any of the changes proposed will suddenly 'get the bite back in Antrim Hurling' baffles me.  None of the proposals that I have heard will suddenly produce more competitive leagues and in fact some of those that I have heard do the exact opposite.

Yes, change may be needed but it needs to be done in a way thats fair and reasonable.

As has been said on here before, to improve standards in Antrim, we need to look at the quality of coaching as well.  Lets not hide behind our league structures and use them as the sole excuse for our failings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2008, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: podge on January 15, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
As has been said on here before, to improve standards in Antrim, we need to look at the quality of coaching as well.  Lets not hide behind our league structures and use them as the sole excuse for our failings.

100% agree with that podge. Improved levels of coaching comes before league structures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 16, 2008, 01:41:35 PM
It is probably best for Antrim Hurling leagues if we "seed" teams. Clubs that have earned the right for promotion, could be asked do they want to be promoted. Are they ready for promotion. There is no point moving up a division if your going to get thrashed in every game. It only has the reverse effect where you might actually see players not taking much interest in the game due to making littel or no progress.

The problem with Antrim Hurling is there is such a massive difference between the top tier and the middle tier. Example in Tipperary an intermediate club would give most any of there senior clubs a good run for there money. Also we have small number of teams to begin with. My view is just seed teams where competitions are competitive in each division, also you then wouldn't need exact number of teams in each division. Just a wee bit of common sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 16, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
Surely theres more work being done on coaching now than theres ever been, but this will take a few years to allow coaches to cut their teeth a few grades down before feeling confident to step up for the senior jobs. The league structures need ammended now though so teams and inexperienced coaches won't continue to punch above their weight. There is no gain for any team giving out or receiving a tanking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 16, 2008, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on January 16, 2008, 03:26:14 PM
The league structures need amended now though so teams and inexperienced coaches won't continue to punch above their weight. There is no gain for any team giving out or receiving a tanking.

and which restructuring option is it that magically solves those two issues you have mentioned? 

this myth that constantly restructuring leagues (and ambushing teams in the process) will magically cure a lot of problems in the standard of our games and coaches needs to be dispelled. 

As an example- as far as I  can make out, Div 2 was a reasonably competitive league last year. so what happens- the tinkermen decide to relegate 4 or 5 teams out of it- 4 teams who just happen to be the 4 finalists in the IHC and JHC!  so we now have a div 1 league that hasn;t actually changes that much at all, a new div 2 league and a new div 3 league where even more 'tankings' will be handed out.  get a grip.

all these proposals are tinkering at the edges.  they are not going to change anything substantially in a year and should not be pushed through at the cost of disenfranchising several clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 17, 2008, 08:04:41 AM
"at the cost of disenfranchising several clubs". I sorry fella but what are the costs of disenfranchising a few clubs versus the benefits of a league structure that is representative of where the standard of hurling is at the moment. Who is going to be tanking who in Div.2 and 3, arguably Ardoyne might be up against it in Div.3 but I think they just shade it to be there (hypothetically speaking of course).
You have to look beyond your own back yard, you have your own self serving agenda which in the long term serves no-one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 17, 2008, 08:17:35 AM
Joining in on this debate. With maybe league structures changing this season. For any of the big teams going down it should have no real bearing as if they are as good as they say they are they will I'm sure be back in division one the following season. A bit of humble pie killed no one, and the likes of Rossa who failed to put any effort into the league, well they'll not make that mistake again. We put the league as priority, as the only way we can develop is by playing and staying in the top flight. Winning games of the big teams or coming away with narrow losses or draws give us belief for the following season.   

Waiting to see document sent to clubs for debate. New changes to championship are there as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 17, 2008, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 17, 2008, 08:04:41 AM
"at the cost of disenfranchising several clubs". I sorry fella but what are the costs of disenfranchising a few clubs versus the benefits of a league structure that is representative of where the standard of hurling is at the moment.

I like the way you have chosen a very small part of what I have said over 2 posts and completely misrepresented what I said.

I have stated several times that change is needed, but that it needs to be done in a fair manner  i.e clubs need to be told in advance.

I have also asked which of the options is 'representative of where the standard of hruling is at the moment'?  The answer is that none of them are a majic solution and none of them will provide immediate benefits which is why they do not need to ne rushed through at a cost.

"Who is going to be tanking who in Div.2 and 3, arguably Ardoyne might be up against it in Div.3 but I think they just shade it to be there (hypothetically speaking of course)."

I assume you are talking about Guillem2's proposal.  Just a pity that its not one of the options up for approval.  

My main beef is with the CCC's proposals which I see no benefit in but I am also generally opposed to the principle of changing promotion/relegation rules after the leagues are run.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 17, 2008, 10:04:41 AM
my 2 cents worth ...

I played in Division 2 last year and all in all it was very competitive, apart possibly from Armoy who lost all their games, and Rasharkin who only won the one against Armoy.  Glenarm won the league and so they should probably be allowed to pit their skills against the bigger boys next year. 

It's not completely straight forward though, like my own club didn't thrown any matches or anything like that but we weren't exactly devastated when we didn't win the league as we knew that it would more than likely result in a year's hammerings and a return to division 2 with our tails between our legs (Sarsfields beat us 2 years ago and didn't exactly set Division 1 alight last year)

I think the main benefit (as has already been stated) in moving from 3 divisions to 4 would be for the teams in the current division 3, where we would have the stronger teams in the new division 3 and the teams who struggle to put teams out in the new division 4.  (This isn't intended as an entry criteria just a broad overview).  Even if a team did find themselves in a league which they felt they were too good for, if that was the case then it would only be a matter of putting in a year's effort and you'd be promoted.

I'm not sure what my view is, I would be in favour of 4 divisions, but doing it now based on leagues that have already been run isn't ideal.  So probably if the county said "right, next year we're moving to this, you have this year to play yourself into a position, and that position will decide where you play your hurling next year."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 17, 2008, 04:19:08 PM
Completely agree sail in - I only hope the sensible approach like that is taken.

Set it out for next year so all concerned know exactly where they are at and what they are aiming for. This year clubs were focussed on achieving a goal...some did that, others may have been happy to stay in Div 2 etc etc.

Now putting in "a year's effort" is an easy thing to say - as the year starts again in the near future its a long haul thing. Some players might be nearing retirement and never get the opportunity to play at the level that they successfully sought to attain last year.

As regards Div 2 I believe an Armoy poster on here made it pretty clear that all focus was lost on the league when 1. they went for the championship means all approach (fair play to them they got it) and 2. McDermotts (I think) pulled out of the league so relegation wasn't a possibility.

By the way good luck to Armoy for the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 17, 2008, 04:43:50 PM
Oh yeah, good luck to Armoy surely!

It was McDermotts that completely dropped out, you're right.  I don't think they played any games at all in Division 2, but I don't think there was ever any real clarity on the issue of whether they would be completely removed or if they would just be relegated.  Maybe the Armoy lads knew different - they must have done going by what you're saying! 

I'm not sure what's happening with McDermotts this coming year either - whether they've folded or if they intend putting a team into Division 3.  I think their football club fell to an arse too, though I'm nearly sure they played at least a few games last year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 19, 2008, 04:26:06 PM
Couple of questions.

Na fuiseoig. How old is the club and what would the catchment area be in Twinbrook.

When did they change the name of the "volunteer" cup and what is the new name. Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 19, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on January 19, 2008, 04:26:06 PM
Couple of questions.

Na fuiseoig. How old is the club and what would the catchment area be in Twinbrook.

When did they change the name of the "volunteer" cup and what is the new name. Thanks

The PSNI have had many problems catching anyone in Twinbrook...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 20, 2008, 04:31:28 PM
Brian Cody, John Power, Pat O Neill, DJ Carey, Henry Shefflin, Cha Fitzpatrick your boys took a hell of a beating.

Happy days...just in from the Armoy match (they won by 3 points) and just heard that Antrim won by a point in Kilkenny.

Is this the beginning of a revolution?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on January 20, 2008, 04:49:37 PM
When the results were read out on RTE Radio I thought after he said Antrim 2-15 he was going to say Kilkenny 3-26 or something like that.

Great result no matter what the competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 20, 2008, 05:05:52 PM
I first read the result on aertal. Was shocked, but didn't believe it because that source of information has in the past prov-en unreliable. Then the texts came in and it was pure euphoria. This result has really made my month!! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on January 20, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
what was the result? cant find it anywhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on January 20, 2008, 05:25:12 PM
2-15 to 1-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 20, 2008, 06:06:52 PM
Lads i would implore youse not to get too carried away, how many false dawns have we had in Antrim? The League will be a better barometer of where we are, when teams have their "eye on the ball" a bit more. A great result nonetheless. When we beat Galway a copule of years ago we didnt build on it, we must build on this but it will be difficult given the opposition in the league. I would also imagine the Cats will be waiting for us to make amends in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pebble-dasher on January 20, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
could someone post the teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 20, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
Well done Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 20, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
From RTE

Walsh Cup round-up
Sunday, 20 January 2008 19:42
All-Ireland champions and four-in-a-row Walsh Cup chasers Kilkenny were sensationally knocked out of the 2008 Walsh Cup as they went down to a 2-15 to 1-17 defeat to Antrim.

A sustained effort by an eager Antrim side saw them pull off a surprise quarter-final win at Freshford.

Kilkenny lined out with seven of their All-Ireland winning team from last September in tow, but the visitors were full value for their success.

Although holding out by a point at the full-time whistle, Terence McNaughton and Dominic McKinley's charges could have won by a lot more, but let the Cats sneak back into contention in the second half.

PJ Ryan, Jackie Tyrrell, PJ Delaney, James Ryall, Richie Power, Aidan Fogarty and Eddie Brennan formed the solid back-bone of this Kilkenny side who were expected to triumph and build up some momentum for their season ahead.

However, once Liam Watson blasted to the net in the ninth-minute, there was no doubting just how hungry Antrim were for the win.

Watson's strike gave the visitors a two-point cushion and they held onto that lead right to the finish, as Kilkenny played second fiddle for most of the encounter.

Antrim made full use of their wind advantage during the opening half and were more clinical in their play.

Although the Cats had cut the deficit to a point after 13 minutes thanks to good work from Eddie Brennan and Richie Power, Antrim were quick to take scores from all angles.

Even Ballycastle goalkeeper Ryan McGarry got in on the scoring action as his long range puck glided between the posts for Antrim's third point in the 14th-minute.

By the end of the opening quarter, quick scores from Kevin Elliott and Watson had Antrim leading by 1-5 to 0-4 and Kilkenny were being made to pay for some loose marking.

The free-taking of Power and another Brennan point did keep Kilkenny in touch before the interval but the wides tally was mounting for the Cats.

Antrim finished the half as they had started it - with another well-taken goal.

This time it was Karl McKeegan who had no hesitation in planting the ball past PJ Ryan and he also stroked over the next point as Antrim took a 2-8 to 0-7 buffer into the break.

Kilkenny burst out of the blocks on the restart with full-forward Eddie Brennan eager for a goal inside the opening minute, but good defensive work by the visitors ensured the All Star was kept at bay.

Kilkenny had a dominant spell, hitting the next three points through Power and defender James Ryall.

Eoin McCormack followed up with a 43rd minute goal to cut the gap to just two points.

Nonetheless, Antrim failed to panic and with the likes of Watson and McGarry continuing to be settling influences, they held on to set up a semi-final against UCD.

Kilkenny persevered right until the end with injury-time points coming from Power and PJ Delaney, but time simply ran out on Brian Cody's defending champions.

Kilkenny: PJ Ryan; S Cummins, B Hogan, J Tyrrell; J Dalton, PJ Delaney (0-1, 1 '65'), J Ryall (0-1); R Mullally (0-1), W Dwyer; P Cleere, R Power (0-9, 0-8f), A Fogarty (0-2); E McCormack (1-0), E Brennan (0-2), R Hogan (0-1).

Subs used: E McGrath for Cleere (48 mins), D Fogarty for Dwyer (63).

Antrim: R McGarry (0-1); A Graffin, N McGarry, S Delargy; C Herron, M McCambridge, K Elliott (0-1); K McKeegan (1-1), D Hamill; N McManus (0-1), L Watson (1-8, 0-4f, 2 '65'), P McGill; S McCrory (0-1), C Donnelly, S McNaughton (0-1).

Subs used: M Kettle for N McGarry, K Stewart (0-1) for Donnelly (both half-time), C Duffin for McNaughton (64 mins).

Referee: Tony Carroll (Offaly)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2008, 09:42:30 PM
No matter what competition this was and what time of year it was we beat Kilkenny - the All Ireland champions!

Hopefully this will do wonders for the self belief.

Not such a bad Kilkenny team either.

Good to see young Hippy being brought in. Also didn't know Hamill was in the panel but he must be doing rightly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ExiledGael on January 20, 2008, 09:51:03 PM
No mention of this game before during or after the match on BBC. Still not a word of the game to be seen, probably didn't know it was happening. Bit of a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 21, 2008, 01:50:49 AM
Treated myself to a couple tonight after that.

Yee Haaa.

Minder - your implorations fall on deaf ears - our day has come*.





*Clearly I am joking but f**k me its something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 21, 2008, 04:12:43 AM
well done antrim, it was definitely a great performance. It has too be put into context aswell considering the game was played in Fresford, Kilkenny. I cant remember too many teams (all counties) coming to Kilkenny and beating them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 21, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
Was chatting to a player - seemingly Cody came into the dressing room and was very complimentary of Antrim's style of hurling and their workrate at this time of year.

Also I believe the bus journey up home was a calm affair will no one getting carried away and generally there was a level headed approach to the win.

Both things good to hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 21, 2008, 11:22:18 AM
A big booster to Antrim, that will help morale and more importantly confidence, it will be interesting to see how this impacts on the teams performance for the remainder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 21, 2008, 11:47:05 AM
Lads

I am not being downhearted or knocking the lads in anyway fair play good result. But I will hold judgement to the league stages before passing comment on what sort of standard we are at.

Good result but more hard work and feet on the ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 21, 2008, 12:30:45 PM
For those of you that cant afford to buy the Irish News.......

Irish News


ANTRIM joint manager Terence McNaughton was understandably reserved in his delight at yesterday's historic win for the Saffrons, who took their first competitive win over the Kilkenny for almost 20 years, thanks to a slender one-point victory at Freshford.

Wins over the Cats at any grade are certainly important, but a win in January should perhaps be taken with a health warning, even though this was certainly a hard-fought and warranted win for the visitors, in a keenly-contested encounter.

McNaughton was happy with the performance of his youthful side, and top scorer Liam Watson, who finished the contest with 1-8 to his credit.

"Although it's nice to beat them, we aren't going to get carried away," he said.

"We had only one guy in the forward line that wasn't under 21. We had a full U21 team except for Liam Watson. Any day you come to Kilkenny and beat them is a good day for Antrim, whether it's the Walsh Cup or not. We haven't had a fixture for a long time either."

Kilkenny lined out with seven of last year's All-Ireland-winning side, with a further five first choice players propping up the bench, something which wasn't lost on Sambo or his side.

"There are no bad Kilkenny teams and we keep talking about Kilkenny's strength-in-depth and they have two teams while the rest of us struggle to get one," he added.

"I'm very pleased about it, but the one thing which really pleases me was that we fought away and harried away. It was typical January hurling from both teams, but it's great to see us battle hard. We will take a lot more out of it than Kilkenny will be worried about."

Kilkenny only returned from their team holiday in Dubai and Thailand, last Thursday and although their manager Brian Cody didn't see this loss having a major effect on his preparations for the rest of the year, he was still disappointed with the defeat and the effort shown by his side.

"No I don't see it is a setback, we are just starting off, we don't come up to lose any game, but I would be happy in the sense that they kept fighting at it and they just didn't say 'ah we are just back from holidays'," Cody said. "We are back into training now and we are looking forward to the rest of the year now."

Cody was high in his praise for a young Antrim side who showed great teamwork and skill to execute this win.

"I thought Antrim were very good there and their skill was very good out there, they also impressed with me with their defending," he added.

"We were on holidays, that wasn't the end of the world," Cody added.

"We were out there, we were competitive, we kept going to the very end, we tried to win it, we just didn't come up here to play a game, we came up here to try win the game but Antrim were better on the day without a shadow of a doubt."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 21, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
Was chatting to a player - seemingly Cody came into the dressing room and was very complimentary of Antrim's style of hurling and their workrate at this time of year.

Also I believe the bus journey up home was a calm affair will no one getting carried away and generally there was a level headed approach to the win.
Both things good to hear.

I noticed in the Irish News today a photo of three players posing for a photo with their arms aloft after the match, i wonder what the Kilkenny people made of that. Can you imagine players from Limerick, Cork, Galway etc doing this after winning a match in January?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 23, 2008, 01:34:10 PM
Irish News readership in Kilkenny at an all time high.

I'm sure come the 3rd week of September when KK are down at half time in the AI final that very same photo wil be produced to spur on the Cats to victory...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 23, 2008, 01:34:10 PM
Irish News readership in Kilkenny at an all time high.

I'm sure come the 3rd week of September when KK are down at half time in the AI final that very same photo wil be produced to spur on the Cats to victory...

I was referring to the Kilkenny people at the match, i found it a bit surprising.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2008, 01:39:54 PM
Minder what is your problem with the Antrim team? Are you jealous of Karl McKeegan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 23, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 23, 2008, 01:34:10 PM

I'm sure come the 3rd week of September when KK are down at half time in the AI final that very same photo wil be produced to spur on the Cats to victory...

If Kilkenny are playing in an AI final on the third sunday of september they'd be using a picture of St Jude as inspiration or maybe Lazarous but by god it's be some kind of miracle.
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2008, 01:39:54 PM
Minder what is your problem with the Antrim team? Are you jealous of Karl McKeegan?

I am jealous of your avatar......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 23, 2008, 02:20:20 PM
QuoteQuote from: Tony Baloney on Today at 01:39:54 PM
Minder what is your problem with the Antrim team? Are you jealous of Karl McKeegan?


I am jealous of your avatar......

Some pups!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 23, 2008, 02:20:20 PM
QuoteQuote from: Tony Baloney on Today at 01:39:54 PM
Minder what is your problem with the Antrim team? Are you jealous of Karl McKeegan?


I am jealous of your avatar......

Some pups!

I am gonna have to ask you to return to the Neighbours thread NRico......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on January 23, 2008, 07:04:34 PM
Back to club issues. When will the league proposals be put to the clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 24, 2008, 11:18:55 AM
Is the Dunloy match still in Clones, or has it been switched to Breffni?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 24, 2008, 12:07:28 PM
i think this was the CCC's ideas:

Antrim League Proposals  2008

Purpose of Proposals

At the end of last season C C C began a process of examination of the current league and championship structures within the County.   Recognising of course that our clubs and County Committee are the final decision makers regarding the competition structures we nonetheless felt that based on our experience of administering the competitions during the season past that there are areas were improvement could be made.  Based on our deliberations and discussions we wish to put the following proposals to County Committee.   We realise that in some aspects we are calling for brave decisions to be made which in the short term will affect the status of some clubs in league and championships.  We ask County Committee to give serious consideration to each of the proposals.  We acknowledge of course that there are other proposals out there which deserve equal consideration.  We feel that an early meeting of the clubs with the sole purpose of discussing these and any other proposals would be of great benefit.  Again in studying and discussing these proposals we would ask the clubs to see the greater picture.  Example tables within the proposals are based on league positions last season.   We realise that some clubs will wish to make a case for either staying where they are or indeed being included at a higher or lower level of competition in league or championship.  This will be considered.


Hurling Proposals.
Leagues

It is fairly well accepted by the majority of hurling clubs that the leagues need revamped.   Last years format of one round leagues clearly did not give the required number of games at a competitive standard. In Division 1 this was particularly so, with too many predictable results.  Also the lack of home and away leads to an uneven distribution of much needed gate revenue.   While competition was tight in Division 2 the number of games provided was not satisfactory and again there was the problem of loss of revenue.

We propose
Four Divisions of two round leagues on a home and away basis.  We would consider promotion and relegation on any of the following.
One up     One down
Two up     Two Down
Second place relegation /promotion playoff.

Based on last years finishing positions the leagues would be as follows.

Division 1   Ten Teams     Division 2   8 Teams          Division 3   8 Teams
Dunloy                                Rossa                                Tir na nOg
Loughgiel                            Lamh Dearg                           Cushendun
Portaferry                           Sarsfields                                St Pauls
Ballycastle                          Shane O Neills                       Rasharkin
Cushendall                         Gort na Mona                         Armoy
Ballygalget                        Clooney Gaels                         Cloughmills
St Johns                               Glenravel                              St Agnes
St Galls                               Carey Faughs                         St Teresas
Ballycran
Glenariff


Division 4    8 Teams
Ballymena
Ardoyne
St. Endas
Davitts
Larne
Breedagh
Sarsfields 2
O Mitchell Og


Football Leagues

By and large the football leagues worked quite well particularly in the first four divisions  .Areas of concern would have been largely around teams finishing second in their leagues having to wait longer than they wished to have relegation issues resolved in the leagues above.     Some of the smaller clubs felt aggrieved at having to play against second and third teams from larger clubs.  They felt that at times these reserve teams were loaded with first team players and were too strong.  These issues particularly arose in divisions 4,5 and 6.   Divisions 5 and 6 where the majority of the teams are second or third teams were most problematic.  These two leagues, nominally two sections of the one league but split on geographic lines caused problems in terms of the number of teams in each section and the subsequent wait by the winners of Division 6 to see who they played in the play off.       C C C are of the view that for efficiency there should be a maximum of ten teams in any league with two rounds home and away.

In addressing these problems C C C have come up with a number of proposals.
The first issue is easily dealt with.  We propose a straight forward two up and two down in divisions 1,2 and three, doing away with promotion relegation play offs.
The bottom two in Division 4 would go down and be replaced by the winners of Division 5 and 6 if these are to stay as they are.
C C C looked long and hard at the situation regarding reserve sides.    At first glance there appeared to be a case for reserve leagues. The advantages to the clubs were obvious. If Division 1. reserve sides played before their first teams the first team managers would get a chance to look at the  players. Expenses would be reduced and gate receipts would probably increase.  .Some of the smaller clubs would obviously be happy not have to play against reserve teams.  So far so good.   However having looked closely at the teams who will make up Division 1. next year problems became apparent. 
The reserve teams of the ten participating clubs in last years division 1. played in divisions 3,4,5 and 6 .  The highest placing obtained was St Johns 2. 3rd in Division three and the lowest placing was Moneyglass 9th in Division 6.  As one of the primary aims of C C C would be to make the leagues more competitive we decided against this      . We considered proposals for reserve leagues from Eire Og but would not be in favour of these as if adopted they greatly reduced the number of games reserve teams would be scheduled and would defeat another of the aims of C C C.
We do feel that the new competition entry forms which will contain space for the fifteen graded players and which on completion will be placed on E Sport and which we will be asking the clubs to ratify should ease some of the fears of the smaller clubs.       As both of the bottom teams dropping from Division 4. are South Antrim clubs and under the present format would be destined for Division 5 we feel that this league becomes too large and if that was repeated next year would be unworkable.
This year twenty or twenty one teams are scheduled to play in these two divisions and it is now time to look again at how they are divided between the two leagues.  As only six of the teams are from one team only clubs five of which play in division 5 it makes it a hard one to solve .but the geographic solution of previous years may soon not be viable.



Championship Proposals

We feel that it is taken as read that the steps needed to improve the Hurling Championship would not necessarily be the same as those for football so again we will deal with them seperately.   There is however one area of concern common to both . How best do we decide what championship a club enters. Broadly speaking it is possible for a club  under the present conditions and regulations to enter whatever championship it wishes   .A club may enter a higher or lower grade of championship than it would be expected to play at.     C C C feel that championship entry must be better regulated and more simply determined    The fairest way we feel is that entry to any championship be determined by league and championship performance in the previous year.  We also feel that there should be a seeding of the top four clubs in each championship.

Hurling
C C C proposes to do away with the present system of  preliminary league sections  for the Hurling championships.    Although the thinking behind this format (to give clubs more championship hurling) was good the fact is that many of the games were meaningless and unwanted by clubs .  Dates saved will be better used in competitive league games.
We propose that Senior Championship consist of a maximum ten teams which would entail two preliminary games to produce four teams to play the four seeded teams.
These teams would be drawn from the hat with the first team drawn playing the fourth seed, the second drawn playing the second seed etc.
Based on league and championship performance last season the four seeded teams would be   1. Dunloy   2. Loughgiel   3. Ballycastle   4. Cushendall
The six teams competing to play them would be  St Johns St Galls Rossa Glenariff Lamh Dearg and Cushendun/Sarsfields

Intermediate championship
Seeded teams  1.Cushendun/Sarsfields  2.Glenarm  3. St Pauls  4. Gort na Mona
One preliminary game    then the same procedure as in Senior
Teams competing      Clooney Gaels  Glenravel  Carey Faughs  Tir na nOg  Armoy
Junior Championship
Seeded Teams    1.  Rasharkin  2. Cloughmills  3.St Agnes 4 St Teresas
Teams to play prelims.   Ballymena   Ardoyne   St Endas   Davitts    Larne   O Mitchel Og  with possibly Creggan Gaels and/or Na Fuiseoig
Proceed as in Snior and Intermediate.


Football Championship

Football Championship is at present played on an open draw basis.  We would see no need to change this but again would advocate seeding based on the previous seasons League and Championship with the top four teams seeded.  Again we would propose a maximum of ten teams in the Senior championship.    Championship status to be determined by performance in previous years league and championship.

Based on last years league and championship, adding 5 points for winning the championship, 3 points for reaching the final, two points for reaching the semi finals and one for reaching the quarter final and in this case then the four seeded teams would be , in order, St Galls, Cargin,Portglenone and Creggan.


We would advocate the same system in Intermediate and Junior Championship.
As a guide to determining status we would recommend that the previous years league points be added to a set number of points awarded for Championship performance
We would recommend a sliding scale of points starting with Winner  Finalists  Semi Finalists   Quarter Finalists  with the level of competition taken into consideration with a set number of points given,  this to be applied in Hurling and Football.
We believe that linking leagues and championships in this manner will enhance the status of the leagues and increase the importance of gaining league points.

While most of what we propose will be easily accepted we know that some of it will require an unselfish over view of the situation on the part of the clubs.  We hope you give the proposals careful consideration.  We realise that there are other proposals to be discussed.  We as always will do our best to administer whatever you decide.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 24, 2008, 09:28:52 PM
There are also proposals in from Cushendun and Lamh dearg. They are on the county website if you look hard enough. Cushenduns proposal mirrors the CCC proposal for hurling but whats it instigated in 2009 after everyone plays for position this year. Lamh dearg want Div 1A and Div1B with 8 teams in them. For my money I would go with Cushenduns proposal as everyone knows what they are playing for this season rather than moving the goalposts in the closed season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on January 24, 2008, 10:42:39 PM
Dont see much mention of it anywhere else SCB but best of luck to Armoy on Sunday in Dundalk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 24, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
Agree with Cushendun's proposal and agree with the good luck wishes to Armoy.

One big game and there might be a trip to croke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on January 24, 2008, 11:08:24 PM
The CCC proposals look OK and are very close to what I posted here & on the Antrim site last month. Disappointed about Rossa in Div 2 but we can live with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 25, 2008, 08:40:27 AM
it's tough on any team being relagated. but it happens. my only change on that would be the championship being a straight knock out. no seeding as lamhs have proved over the years you can take these teams in one offs but not in group or qualifiers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 25, 2008, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on January 24, 2008, 10:42:39 PM
Dont see much mention of it anywhere else SCB but best of luck to Armoy on Sunday in Dundalk.
Cheers Fairead will I see you at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 26, 2008, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: milltown row on January 25, 2008, 08:40:27 AM
it's tough on any team being relagated. but it happens. my only change on that would be the championship being a straight knock out. no seeding as lamhs have proved over the years you can take these teams in one offs but not in group or qualifiers

Its tough indeed.  What a lot of people don;t realise is that what is finally agreed is actually very unlikely to exactly mirror any of the proposals that are on the Antrim website.  I am hearing there is a school of thought that 8 team leagues, home and away, is the way to go.  and in the current climate of change/why waste a year thats where we might end up this season.

By my reckoning that means that St Galls and Ballycran could join Rossa LD and Sarsfields in Div 2.  (the tables in document posted by Milltown are wrong I think as Glenariff were ahead of these teams?).  It also means that Carey and Glenravel could join St Pauls, R'town,C'dun, R sharkin,Armoy in Div 3..etc etc...

so milltown, is it still your view that 'it's tough on any team being relegated. but it happens' ? :o

maybe a few more clubs will need to reconsider what they think is best for the long term future of antrim hurling when their own short term future is in jeopardy ;)

I think long term this is the way to go but it should be done in a way to allow the teams to play their way into a particular league.

On C'ship, keep it simple.  Open draw, no seeding, straight knock out.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2008, 01:37:35 PM
 if thats the proposals then so be it. we are never going to win the league but if it was a competitive div 2 then so be it. we have beaten all the teams below us in the league. should have beaten Ballycastle up there as well but sure no worries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on January 26, 2008, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on January 25, 2008, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on January 24, 2008, 10:42:39 PM
Dont see much mention of it anywhere else SCB but best of luck to Armoy on Sunday in Dundalk.
Cheers Fairead will I see you at it?

I was planning to to go to Dundalk but Antrim's expected win  :P over the Cats last week has changed my plans so going to Belfield for the UCD match. Its a pity theres a clash. I see in the paper today it says if Conaghy Shamrocks are in trouble they will throw on Canice Brennan from the bench. Id say Armoy will be up against it but if they show the spirit that Clooney did in the final last year against, what has to be said was a much superior team, then hopefully they will put in a good show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 27, 2008, 04:47:57 PM
Antrim do it again. I would say that was a decent UCD team they played. Congratulations lads.

Antrim through to Walsh Cup final 

Sambo McNaughton's side beat Kilkenny last week
Antrim will face Offaly in next Sunday's Walsh Cup final at Casement Park thanks to a 3-14 to 1-16 win over UCD in Sunday's semi-final at Belfield.
Michael Magill found the net after three minutes and the Saffrons enjoyed a 1-10 to 0-10 lead at half-time.

Tommy Fitzgerald's 39th-minute goal gave the students hope but a further Magill goal and a Liam Watson penalty paved the way for Antrim's victory.

Watson scored a total of 1-5 and Magill contributed 2-2 to the scoreline.

The other Antrim points scorers were Paddy Magill, 0-2, and a point apiece for Ciaran Herron, Neil McManus, Eddie McCluskey, Simon McCoy and Cormac Donnelly.

Stephen Nolan top-scored for UCD with 0-7, Michael McGarry adding 0-6, Tommy Fitzgerald 1-1 and James Walsh 0-2.

The hosts kept in touch with frees from McGarry and Nolan in the first half and piled on the pressure after the break but 10 second-half wides did not help their cause.

Offaly defeated Laois 1-12 to 0-11 in the day's other last four clash.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 27, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
i take it that report is from the bbc? As it is full of their usual lazy bastard journalism,simon mc coy? Michael magill? I take it they meant paddy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 27, 2008, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 27, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
i take it that report is from the bbc? As it is full of their usual lazy bastard journalism,simon mc coy? Michael magill? I take it they meant paddy

No, Michael alright. Thought he played well throughout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 27, 2008, 05:10:46 PM
Can you give us any more details cloot if you were there? was it a fair result who played well..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 27, 2008, 05:15:40 PM
Given a quick summary on the Walsh Cup thread, Ballintoy.

Anyone any result from Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 27, 2008, 05:17:32 PM
Heard they were beat no furthur details at the moment. Thanks for the report cloot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 28, 2008, 09:16:21 AM
Got the photo, Ballintoy!!!

Is that Ali McAlistair keeping his eye on the ball???????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on January 28, 2008, 02:50:46 PM
Guillem2 - I see your young fella has made the county minor panel. Well done to the lad. Hope he does well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on January 28, 2008, 03:46:07 PM
from the county website:

Walsh Cup Final    28 January 2008

The Walsh Cup final has been officially fixed for this Sunday 3rd Februaury at 2pm in Casement Park by the Leinster Council.

However, Antrim officials have learned today that Offaly have lodged an objection about the venue with the Leinster Council this morning.

Antrim county officials have indicated to the Leinster Council that all semi-finalists knew last week that should Antrim defeat UCD on Sunday, that the venue for the final would be Casement Park. They have expressed their views and insist that this committment must be honoured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 28, 2008, 07:45:35 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on January 28, 2008, 03:46:07 PM

Antrim county officials have indicated to the Leinster Council that all semi-finalists knew last week that should Antrim defeat UCD on Sunday, that the venue for the final would be Casement Park. They have expressed their views and insist that this committment must be honoured.

don;t tell me they are thinking of changing the rules after the outcome is known!!!! :o

that would never happen in Antrim with leagues or anything like that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 29, 2008, 11:28:48 AM
podge, you still annoyed at the re-structuring of our leagues?

i'm sure he CCC have everybodys interests at heart. the chairman of the CCC (st pauls) has even put his own team into div 3 along with the county Chairman's team.
??? ??? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 29, 2008, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: milltown row on January 29, 2008, 11:28:48 AM
podge, you still annoyed at the re-structuring of our leagues?

i'm sure he CCC have everybodys interests at heart. the chairman of the CCC (st pauls) has even put his own team into div 3 along with the county Chairman's team.
??? ??? ???


Yes, its fair to say I am annoyed.  I have said on here before that our leagues need to be changed but that it needs to be done in a fair manner.  none of the changes will dramatically change the fortunes of antrim hurlng to the extent that they need to be pushed through without clubs having fair notice to play for their position. 

I don;t buy this argument that a team goes out to win every game regardless.  we all know that doesn;t happen in the real world as teams experiment and if backs are to the wall, men will make an extra commitment that they would not otherwise do.

I also think its a bit ironic for Antrim to be calling for Leinster to 'honour their commitment' when they are not prepred to do so themselves.  Granted its the clubs that ulimately decide but the whole debate has become 'personalised' by the fact that they are asked to vote for something in the full knowledge of how it directly impacts them- it should be done in advance of the season.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 29, 2008, 01:43:11 PM
Sure we already know that Antrim wont stand over anything and that they are always just looking for appeasement rather than making the hard calls that wil benefit us all in the long run.

Have to say pleased with the good start the hurlers have made to the season. Although I would still have reservations about the league and I think i will hold comment until the first league game has come and gone.

Keep the hard work up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 29, 2008, 03:59:30 PM
will if the leagues were a bit more meaningful with two up two down then teams know they cant slip up. they need to go out and win a handful of games to stay in top flight. i think if we were to drop down to the div 2 league with lamhs  ballycran rossa and sarsfields, then it would be competitive for everybody. would the senior Championship consist of the top flight teams? and what will happen to the reserve teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown raver on January 29, 2008, 05:09:45 PM
have to disagree milltown rower, yes the leagues should be a bit more meaningful, but surely teams deserve to know a season in advance of the consequences of finishing in certain places. we played at least three games at the end of the season last year were it was seen by us as a "bit of craic" as there was no meaning in it, as we were already safe- I even think you got a run out  ;D. i would say the same applied to rossa and other clubs also. 
Title: League Structures 2008
Post by: aontroim on January 31, 2008, 08:01:36 AM
From Antrim website (fair play to L. Smyth the new PRO - seems to be on the ball with getting things on the site quickly)

Next year's hurling leagues have been significantly changed.

Division 1 will consist of the top 8 teams only from last year's Division 1. Matches in this Division will be played on a home and away basis.

Division 2 will consist of 16 teams i.e the 5 teams finishing bottom of last years Division 1, the 10 teams who were in last year's Division 2 and the team promoted from last year's Division 3. These matches will be played on a one round basis only. However, this division will be split for the following year into 2 divisions of 8 teams and matches will then be played on a 2 round basis.

Divisions 3 and 4 will be equally divided depending on a team's league status from last year's leagues.

Promotion and relegation will still occur at the end of this year on a one up and one down basis.

In another major change to the hurling championships, an ammendment to the CCC proposal to go to an open draw for all grades of championships was passed, but no seeding would occur at any level.

---------------------------------------------

Thats a severly congested Div 2 - 16 teams 1 way - at least the teams will get plenty of games and all to play for.  Compromise all round it looks like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
i'm annoyed at not being dropped down into div 2 but the fact now that they accomodated the div 2 teams. and the reason for this is what? what will rasharkin get out of being tanked by us rossa ballycran and lamhs?

this is a cop out by the county aontroim, have you got the inside track on this (think you do) i'm sure the 5 teams going down did not vote on this proposal. will it be two down two up from now on, or will they again chage it willy nilly when someone kicks up a stink
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 31, 2008, 09:24:55 AM
Quote from: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
i'm annoyed at not being dropped down into div 2 but the fact now that they accomodated the div 2 teams. and the reason for this is what? what will rasharkin get out of being tanked by us rossa ballycran and lamhs?

this is a cop out by the county aontroim, have you got the inside track on this (think you do) i'm sure the 5 teams going down did not vote on this proposal. will it be two down two up from now on, or will they again chage it willy nilly when someone kicks up a stink

there you have it milltown.  maybe my thoughts on giving teams a chance to play for place weren;t so bad after all. 

I agree that there will be some tankings in div 2 this year which is not good.  It is only for one year however as I believe it will be split in to 2 divisions next year.  it should make for an interesting battle in the middle of div 2 this year. 

any of the other options could have had the same outcome in their div 3 with teams being handed out tankings.

I still go back to my original stance- we need structures agreed in advance to stop clubs voting along the party line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 31, 2008, 12:03:00 PM
Milltown,
sorry to burst your bubble, but if you look at the county website, go to last years tables in the results section, and you will see that St Galls finished in 9th position , therefore now in Div 2 next year.
THis will give the format as:

DIV 1
Loughiel, Dunloy, Portaferry, Cushendall, Ballygalget, Ballycastle, Glenariffe & St Johns

DIV 2
St Galls, Ballycran, Rossa, Lamh Dhearg, Sarsfields, Glenarm, GNM, Clooney, Glenravel, Carey, Tir na nOg, Cuhendun, St Pauls, Rasharkin, Armoy

DIV 3
CLoughmills, St Theresas, St Endas, St Agnes, Ballymena, Ardoyne, Davitts

DIV 4
Bresagh, O Mitchel Og, Larne, St Pauls 2, Sarsfields 2, Creggan, Na Fuiseoige

Seems there will be a few miss-matches in Div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 31, 2008, 12:10:45 PM
As far as I understand it there is no division 4??

Aontroim abu - Cloughmills in that Div 2 (16 teams) and then a Div 3 of the rest.

Am I right in this thinking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 31, 2008, 12:13:45 PM
Is this the finailised table, certainly div1 will be alot of competitive matches over a two way league.  Could be right scoreline between Ballycran and Rasharkin, difficult job for the CCC because the first3/4 teams in Div2 look too strong for that div, yet if your going to an 8 team div1 then its hard to see who they should replace.

Ballycrans performances in the Down and Ulster championship would suggest they should be a division 1 team but there league form was dire.

Also agree that these changes should have been proposed last year to be accepted this.  Its is unfair on the teams who thought they were safe and the teams who thoughtthey were promoted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
aontroim abu, as you know my bubble has been burst for years regarding our beloved county, i knew last week that they would pursue the 8team div 1 and due to scores against we would be dropped to the div 2 league, though not happy i said nothing. but like a masterstroke the made the div 2 into a farce. ourselves against rasharkin will be a farce or second team duffed these teams years ago. while gaining propmotion from div 4 to div 2 the league that we know find our senior team in.

id have settled for the 8 team div 2 league two way system, and two up two down, but effectively we will be in div 2 for two years.

and they come out with a get out clause by saying it could all change again next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they are not from this planet. so wher does are reserve players go what league will they be part of? this is how clubs lose players by taking away the games that they want to play.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 31, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Aontroim Abuu, those leagues you posted are garbage.  cmills are in Div 2 and no Div 4.

if it wasn;t so serious it would be amusing to look at how milltown has changed his tune in a few days.  You genuinely do have my sympathy.  there was no solution that was going to meet with approval of all clubs.  the only answer was the one that I had advocated by I won;t get all righteous about...

Quote from: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 12:36:24 PM

id have settled for the 8 team div 2 league two way system, and two up two down, but effectively we will be in div 2 for two years.



if you were happy with 8 team leagues, I think the liklihoodw as that you were going to be in Div 2 for 2 years anyway.  the fact that there are 16 teams in Div 2 doesn;t change the fact that you would be competing with the same top 4 for promotion.

I would have thought your reserve team could compete in Div 3 or possibly in the reserve league although that could be logistically difficult


remember it was the clubs that agreed this- not the county board, not the CCC- every club had a vote and whether we like or not, thats the democracy we live in.

Time to get on with it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 31, 2008, 01:28:21 PM
Podge get off your high horse - i done this in about 30 seconds. For what its worth you are right Cloughmills should be in Div 2.
Have you not read the proposal properly?  this league will split next year into 2 sections of 8 teams. Doing it this way will give teams enough warning and a fairer chance to sort themselves out this year and to try and get themselves into the division they feel they can compete next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
podge at no point in my post did i not think that we would be div one, i knew of a ballycastle proposal last week that would be past. this is the one that the NORTH ANTRIM AND A LONG WITH THE SOUTH WEST CLUBS VOTED FOR.  I SAID LIVE WITH IT!!!!!

we, belfast clubs were shafted by Ballycastle who proposed this proposal last wed, no clubs got to discuss it until last night. Cushendall second it along with Dunloy.

the CCC's proposal was defeated along with Lamhs, Cushendun dropped theirs in favour of Ballycastles as this would leave them in div 2. big surprise there then!!!!!!!

then they had the cheek to railroad another proposal of not changing it for 5 years. HA

another thing that they have changed from the original drafts was two up two down from the leagues. this again means that the top clubs just need to beat the team that is coming up. no real problem in that. but if they had to fight it out with another top flight team then it wil be a lot harder.

seems the north south divide will continue for another while. how will this ever change?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 31, 2008, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
this is a cop out by the county aontroim, have you got the inside track on this (think you do) i'm sure the 5 teams going down did not vote on this proposal. will it be two down two up from now on, or will they again chage it willy nilly when someone kicks up a stink

milltown - definitely no inside track - not even on the same continent at the minute - didn't hear about B'castle proposal til i read it on the website this morning.  Agree it is going to be a tough league for last years div 2 sides with 5 Div 1 sides dropping down - can see 4 of them taking top 4 spots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: R Eimeid on January 31, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 31, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
podge at no point in my post did i not think that we would be div one, i knew of a ballycastle proposal last week that would be past. this is the one that the NORTH ANTRIM AND A LONG WITH THE SOUTH WEST CLUBS VOTED FOR.  I SAID LIVE WITH IT!!!!!

we, belfast clubs were shafted by Ballycastle who proposed this proposal last wed, no clubs got to discuss it until last night. Cushendall second it along with Dunloy.

the CCC's proposal was defeated along with Lamhs, Cushendun dropped theirs in favour of Ballycastles as this would leave them in div 2. big surprise there then!!!!!!!

then they had the cheek to railroad another proposal of not changing it for 5 years. HA

another thing that they have changed from the original drafts was two up two down from the leagues. this again means that the top clubs just need to beat the team that is coming up. no real problem in that. but if they had to fight it out with another top flight team then it wil be a lot harder.

seems the north south divide will continue for another while. how will this ever change?





Milltown Row/Hurler/Naomh Gall (whatever pseudoname you are currently under), if you are proporting to report the facts of the event, I would respectively suggest you do so in an accurate manner and do not try to muddy the name of my club in the process.


'Cushendun dropped their proposal in favour of Ballycastles as this would leave them in div 2. big surprise there then!!!!!!!'

Cushenduns proposal was not withdrawn last night- it was voted on and dismissed.

I will also point out that that when the new options were finalised, the CCC's was 10 teams in Div 1 and Div 2.  There was little or no support for L Deargs proposal so we would have been in Div 2 regardless of what we voted for- so we did not 'vote for Ballycastles as this would leave us in Div 2'.  The CCC's option would have suited us fine after our own option was dismissed.

I don;t need to explain our clubs choice to you or others but for the record we voted for B'castles for a number of reasons such as the proven inability in the recent past to complete 18 games per season, the fact that St Pauls ( a Belfast club) did not deserve to go to the new Div 3, that Clougmills deserved their promotion etc.

You have pointed out some obvious weaknesses in this years Div 2 , many of which I agree with, but that will correct itself in a year.  We may well be in Div 3 next year and I will have no complaint about that as the marker has been set down (subject to next years circus)


'then they had the cheek to railroad another proposal of not changing it for 5 years. HA '


I for one do not recall any proposal to not change for 5 years (which would have been meaningless anyway as we have found out) and Cushendun most certainly did not 'railroad' it.



I am not about to enter into a pointless debate with you on this site of any other but I would ask you to show my club the respect it deserves by refraining from posting false allegations on this or any other site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2008, 08:36:42 AM
R Eimeid your paranoia knows no bounds, whether you want to debate about this or not is irreverent to me, I've also read your proposal, if the county went for an 8 team div 1 league why did they not go for a 8 team div two league?

Was it because they felt it was unfair on the div 2 teams to be dropped to div 3?  If that was the case then why drop any teams this year and set out the stall that the it would be an 8 team league next year, everybody starts off knowing what they had to do. County line was simple all year one up one down (my preferred choice was 10 team league two way, with two up two down) but the merry go round that is the county set up (that's this crazy proposals, amendments, confusion every year) leaves the county wide open for critism by it's members, me you and the rest who have a vested interest in the county and clubs of choice?

I myself fill many roles with club and county so can have my say whether you think I'm wrong or not. The bold writing won't make me believe it any more. Had Ballycastle been outside of the bottom 8 then they would have called for something else.

The disaster that will happen this year in the conjested div 2 16 team league will be that teams will get hammered by the bigger teams. You have senior teams one of which won the senior championship 4 years ago playing teams that couldn't even compete in the Junior Championship. This will do no good to the clubs on the end of this hammering.

To drop 5 senior teams down to div 2 was radical, to keep junior teams in div 2 with senior teams is plain crazy. This does not effect the teams that proposed this, but everyone signed up to it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: R Eimeid on February 01, 2008, 11:08:04 AM
Milltown, I respect your opinion on the leagues and agree with a lot of what you have said. There was no ideal solution and I already explained our position.  I ackoweledge the defeciencies in Div 2 but that will sort itself out in one year.

What I don;t agree with is the fact that your previous post made represenations (the points I put in bold) about how my club, Cushendun, had conducted itself at the meeting on wednesday which were blatently incorrect and misleading.  I was my club delegate on wednesday night so thats why I tried to set the record straight.  I take issue at being misrepresented.

Thats nothing to do with paranoia, thats setting the record straight for the benefit of others who read this site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 01, 2008, 12:55:59 PM
Antrim 6/4 Biffos 4/6. Odds by Eastwoods
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on February 01, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
hows the team looking Dunloy? have they had any practice games? any olud injuries?
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Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2008, 01:44:25 PM
i think the clubs like ourselves and Ballycran were misrepresented, as i've said here i've no real issue with being dropped down, we didn't score enough.

the problem i  have is the constant proposals amendments that were put in. there should be a time set for proposals like in a annual meeting. these are then given air time. discussed and voted on. not sent away and another one brought in, and hey presto thats the one we end up taken.

it does not even effect the club that proposed it. i think there was four from the clubs on offer, eire og, lamhs, cushenduns and gorts, and then the CCC had a proposal.

if things were set in stone and everybody was clear on what the procedures were then there would be less crap talked about on this site.

your right Dunloy and you maybe were given a tough time over the minor football debacle. this will certainly make our lads a bit more focused on the job in hand, promotion and a championship run. i'm done now with the rant

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Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2008, 01:51:21 PM
I don't think the 4 Down teams are invited to these meetings. I wonder how Ballycran feel about it?
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Post by: slow corner back on February 01, 2008, 04:47:51 PM
Cheer up Milltown and least you will get a wee run up to Armoy again!! After playing Conaghy last week that Div 2 looks easy,lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Aristotle Flynn on February 03, 2008, 10:31:59 AM
Dunloy - I thought you changed your name to Max Power? Have you changed back?
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Post by: johnneycool on February 04, 2008, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: R Eimeid on February 01, 2008, 11:08:04 AM
Milltown, I respect your opinion on the leagues and agree with a lot of what you have said. There was no ideal solution and I already explained our position.  I ackoweledge the defeciencies in Div 2 but that will sort itself out in one year.

What I don;t agree with is the fact that your previous post made represenations (the points I put in bold) about how my club, Cushendun, had conducted itself at the meeting on wednesday which were blatently incorrect and misleading.  I was my club delegate on wednesday night so thats why I tried to set the record straight.  I take issue at being misrepresented.

Thats nothing to do with paranoia, thats setting the record straight for the benefit of others who read this site.

Is that you bubbles?

Also I think Guillem touched on it but none of the Down clubs have any say which is fair enough, when in Rome and all that, but it used to be the case that we did, back in the 80's methinks it was ended.
Just glad to get some decent club hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on February 07, 2008, 08:02:04 AM
Does anyone have any idea when the fixtures for the new leagues would be available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2008, 08:38:32 AM
will be a few weeks yet, the CCC in their wisdom had made a fixture list around their proposal and it was changed, so fixtures and even leagues have changed.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: R Eimeid on February 07, 2008, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 04, 2008, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: R Eimeid on February 01, 2008, 11:08:04 AM
Milltown, I respect your opinion on the leagues and agree with a lot of what you have said. There was no ideal solution and I already explained our position.  I ackoweledge the defeciencies in Div 2 but that will sort itself out in one year.

What I don;t agree with is the fact that your previous post made represenations (the points I put in bold) about how my club, Cushendun, had conducted itself at the meeting on wednesday which were blatently incorrect and misleading.  I was my club delegate on wednesday night so thats why I tried to set the record straight.  I take issue at being misrepresented.

Thats nothing to do with paranoia, thats setting the record straight for the benefit of others who read this site.

Is that you bubbles?

Also I think Guillem touched on it but none of the Down clubs have any say which is fair enough, when in Rome and all that, but it used to be the case that we did, back in the 80's methinks it was ended.
Just glad to get some decent club hurling

Indeed JC, it is I.  I only logged on to set the record straight as some of the stuff being said about my beloved club was just not correct.  Honest as the day is long. I see the other party has yet to acknowledge that fact- just headed on another rant.

you are right, the ard teams prob should have had a say; not that it would have made any difference this time around.  sure at least the galgets are all right.
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Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
now that you've started R Eimeid, you'll be on all the time.

i haven't started another rant, i just answered the question.

if your club was dropped into the 3 div after winning the intermedate last year you would certainly be complaining. what other sporting leagues would have 5 teams relegated? your proposal was the one of the better ones, along with Lamhs, with 1a and 1b and top four from each group going into the top flight.

i take it Cushendun will be going for the senior hurling championship seeing they won last years inter. championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: R Eimeid on February 07, 2008, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: R Eimeid on February 01, 2008, 11:08:04 AM
Milltown, I respect your opinion on the leagues and agree with a lot of what you have said. There was no ideal solution and I already explained our position.  I ackoweledge the defeciencies in Div 2 but that will sort itself out in one year.

What I don;t agree with is the fact that your previous post made represenations (the points I put in bold) about how my club, Cushendun, had conducted itself at the meeting on wednesday which were blatently incorrect and misleading.  I was my club delegate on wednesday night so thats why I tried to set the record straight.  I take issue at being misrepresented.

Thats nothing to do with paranoia, thats setting the record straight for the benefit of others who read this site.
Quote from: milltown row on February 07, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
now that you've started R Eimeid, you'll be on all the time.






I hope not Milltown, but it is addictive

Quote from: milltown row on February 07, 2008, 01:20:06 PM



i haven't started another rant, i just answered the question.



I don;t see any question in my post above? My comment to JC was that you have yet to acknowlegde that some of the points/accusations you made in your original post about Cushenduns conduct at the meeting were blatantly false. (those remarks about withdrawing our proposals, railroading another etc)
Maybe you will do so at some stage

Quote from: milltown row on February 07, 2008, 01:20:06 PM

if your club was dropped into the 3 div after winning the intermedate last year you would certainly be complaining. what other sporting leagues would have 5 teams relegated? your proposal was the one of the better ones, along with Lamhs, with 1a and 1b and top four from each group going into the top flight.

i take it Cushendun will be going for the senior hurling championship seeing they won last years inter. championship?

Agree on that one Milltown.  I was very opposed to any proposal that would have seen us in Div 3 and was quite vocal about that.   And yes, our proposal was one of the better ones but not one single club spoke in support of it at convention in Dec.  We will be putting it forward again next year by the way.

we won;t be entering the SHC, sure we are in a rebuilding phase and even if we weren;t we couldn;t compete at SHC.  We are a IHC club so would prefer to play there.   

We had our day at the SHC/Div 1 for over 10 years but fell short.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2008, 06:34:05 PM
thats more like it from Antrim . . . . . Going by how wexford played today i think that was our best / only chance to pick up points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 10, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Can't see it; but if Cork are out they should ue the league to build for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2008, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 10, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Can't see it; but if Cork are out they should ue the league to build for the championship.

As far as i know the Cork hurlers are still training away so we will not even be able to catch them on the hop. Maybe we will see the Walsh Cup for what it was, useful match practice, nothing more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 10, 2008, 10:03:03 PM
Surely if Cork do not field for next sunday they are out of the league all together. That means that there will be no reduction in Div 1 for next year and Frank Murphy will pull a stroke so there is no promotion/relegation from Div1/Div2. I cant see Frank, Sean Og and the rock licking the lips at a trip to killeavy next March in preparation for a munster championship!!! Didnt Offally pul a stunt this year when they were due to be relegated and make sure it did not happen? Its about the only scenario I can see where Antrim will stay up. Even we were to beat Wexford next Sunday if Cork start to play we are not getting anymore points so If Wexford and the Dubs can pick up a point or two anywhere we wil finish bottom and if that happens rest assured there will be relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 11, 2008, 08:49:55 AM
Was at the game yesterday expecting a good tough challenge from Dublin but thought we would still come away with a 1\2 point win.

Dublin played high tempo hurling right from the start and we were chasing the game from the start. The Dublin team looked physical bigger and faster to the ball than us. They were reacting quicker to the breaking ball and took theirs scores well.  We had four or so players doing well. Mc Manus,    McKeeagan, our goal keeper was outstanding catching some ball under pressure and saved a point blank shot, top notch. Cairan Herron played well in the first half but was taken off, not sure why. The rest were anonymous. Watson took what scores were available but below par for his standards, Michael Magill wins a lot of ball but wants to run with the ball every time, this is probably down to being his clubs best player and chipping in for most of their good play.

Gaffin and Delargy were cleaned out a few times, by Dublins best players, Karl Stewart didn't have a good game either. Looking at the sub bench I can sympathise  with the management, there was not much on the bench to pick from. And I think young Donnelly in full forward is not working, he caught two balls and fumbled them once he got them. Maybe Dublin will do a lot better in the league,

I just thought we looked a bit flat footed and second to a lot of ball. On another note at half time the pitch (which was in terrible condition) was filled with kids old men and subs knocking the ball about, have not seen that in years, brilliant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2008, 08:59:42 AM
Don't believe the daily columns of newprint heralding new times ahead for Antrim on the back of the Walsh Cup performances was good preparation for Antrim. There is no new dawn (yet).  Steady progress year on year will be the only way and players heads should not be filled with sweetie mice after a decent 2-3 week spell, which they have been. Back to earth with a bump I'm afraid. Keep at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 11, 2008, 08:59:42 AM
Don't believe the daily columns of newprint heralding new times ahead for Antrim on the back of the Walsh Cup performances was good preparation for Antrim. There is no new dawn (yet).  Steady progress year on year will be the only way and players heads should not be filled with sweetie mice after a decent 2-3 week spell, which they have been. Back to earth with a bump I'm afraid. Keep at it

Agreed Skull, i think the management should be advising the players a little better. I saw about three or four interviews from players in various media outlets proclaiming the "new dawn" of Antrim hurling. Talk like that only sets you up for a fall. The league was always the priority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 11, 2008, 09:48:48 AM
skull
do dunloy play this week or 24th ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 11, 2008, 10:44:55 AM
I think the management should be adivising themselves a bit better after sambo's uncalled for out burst against previous players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: NAG on February 11, 2008, 10:44:55 AM
I think the management should be adivising themselves a bit better after sambo's uncalled for out burst against previous players.

Agreed, some of the players and management are too interested in soundbytes and pontificating in the press.
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Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 11, 2008, 09:48:48 AM
skull
do dunloy play this week or 24th ?

24th hoof in Clones
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Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 11, 2008, 11:21:25 AM
cheers skull
24th suits me better than 17th, might take a wee scoot down to that, i would know a few of those dunloy boys, older generation mind you.
would really love to see them make the breakthrough this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
Yes
It's Dunloy's Centenary this year drici, hence the NHL game this Sunday
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Post by: NAG on February 12, 2008, 11:51:44 AM
So, it looks like Antrim will play none of their NHL matches in Casement this year.

So whats the complaint hard station?

Dunloy have reached 100 years a significant land mark and they deserve to be honoured epseically with the amount of county players they have provided over the last 20 years.
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2008, 12:30:10 PM
Well we've 2 - but you can't blame the fixtures committee etc for what's going on with Cork.

Maybe it'll be resolved by then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 12, 2008, 12:33:45 PM
Sorry I took that as a complaint i think for one it is a good thing to get the county games out on the road and opens it up to a different audience that wouldnt really go to casement.
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Post by: milltown row on February 12, 2008, 01:14:47 PM
i'm all for games going out of Casement, and hopefully when my own club hits the 100 club in two years we will also have that privilege of holding a National League game. but we have a poor record of games held out of Casement (not that Casements record is great). having traveled to Dublin on Sunday and seeing the state of the ground and the trouble our lads had at dipping the ball, at least with Casement we have a pitch that is one of the best surfaces in Ireland. is Dunloys pitch up to the task?

on another note, can anybody remember the last NHL game at Dunloy? i was there and i think they were playing Wexford can anybody give details of the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 12, 2008, 02:04:33 PM
Where would wexford stay when they are up? I always found it very insulting when teams came up to play Antrim from the deep south and stayed in the Carrickdale on the border.
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Post by: Minder on February 12, 2008, 02:20:52 PM
Is any club that has their centenary upcoming get a National League game or is it just if you have sent a load of players to the county? Facilities obviously are a prerequisite........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 12, 2008, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 12, 2008, 02:37:49 PM
Milltown Row (the pitch, not the poster) is good aul craic for a match. You walk down the lane and nearly go on your arse in your boots. Then you practice your swing by beating rats into the river.

;D ;D

Rumour has it the rats wouldn't be seen dead in the changing rooms


Hope you take slagging in good humor milltown  :)
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Post by: milltown row on February 12, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
yes i do lads and i'm the first to complain about facilities within my club.

a club so big with so many members, but it's always the same ones doing the work aroud the pitch. nets, changing rooms, repairs, pitch repairs and  whatever else needs doing.

we have a meeting in the next few weeks regarding our 100 year celebrations and top of my list would be to bring a NHL/NFL match to the club. and before we entertain that our facilities would have to match the likes of Dunloy, Ballycastle (through gritted teeth) and the other quality facilities out there

we've ran a few do's and are starting to generate money but being as successful as we've been it's had a knock on effect with the purse strings.

so Skull, can you remeber that game back must have been clos to 20 years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2008, 04:16:24 PM
milltown you'd probablly find that with regard to only certain members doing the work around facilities etc it's the same in most clubs. Unfortunate really as some / too many people in clubs are prepared to take a lot and not give a lot back!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 12, 2008, 04:28:29 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 12, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
so Skull, can you remeber that game back must have been clos to 20 years ago?

I think it was Tipp milltown. Yeah Pat Fox and Nicky English were playing that day. My guess is that it was between 85 & 87, but can't remember a whole lot about the game other than tipp winning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2008, 05:00:30 PM
This is the last National league game that I remember in Dunloy. Was Babs first game in charge of Tipperary. Lets hope a good crowd turns out for Antrim. A long way for Wexford to travel should be worth at least four points to Antrim

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/AntrimvTippNHL86--Dunloy.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 12, 2008, 09:51:44 PM
I was at that match up in Dunloy, Antrim were going reasonably at the time but the match was in Div 2 I think. I remember being very confident about winning because a) I was young and stupid, B) Tipp had not done anything for about 15 years so I did not think they were a force. Needless to say by the time the game was over I had revised my opinion of both sides.
The only other thing I remember the match for was a brief appearance by a priest, Fr John O Donovan I think, who hurled for Lamh Dearg. He was a cork man who was the PP in Hannahstown and hurled for them. I had played against him earlier that year in the Junior Hurling Final when he had destroyed us by himself and earned a place on the Antrim panel. Funny to note that back then Lamh Dearg were a junior team and Armoys seconds could make a county junior final. Changed times now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 13, 2008, 08:42:01 AM
i also played against that priest, in the south antrim league, dirty so an so. not a bad hurler, christ was it over 20 years ago? were does all the years go. think your right about it being a div 2 game. it was that priest that promoted hurling within the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 03:57:52 PM
from the county website:

NHL Antrim v Wexford - 17.02.08 Dunloy 13.00pm13 February 2008
The Antrim panel to play Wexford is as follows (this should not necessarily be ragrded as the starting 15):

1. Ryan  McGarry

2. Aaron Graffin
3. Neil McGarry
4. Sean Delargy

5. Ciaran Herron
6. Karl Mc Keegan
7. Kevin Elliott

8. Neil Mc Manus
9. Eddie  McCloskey

10. Michael Magill
11. Liam Watson
12. Paddy McGill

13. Karl Stewart
14. Cormac Donnelly
15. Simon McCrory

16. Ronan Kearney
17. Michael Kettle
18. Michael McCambridge
19. Shane McNaughton
20. Donal McNaughton
21. Cathal McAuley
22. Barry McFall
23. Darren Hamill
24. Mark McFadden
25. Philip Maguire
26. P.J O'Connell
27. Colm Duffin
28. Brendan Quinn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 04:47:02 PM
 ;D uve lost the plot  hardstation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
will McFaul ever make the break through?

is this true hardstation or are you just bored and fancied a wee sing-a-long?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 13, 2008, 11:27:49 PM
got a txt tonight, you will never guess who was at senior hurling training tonight in dunloy


wait for it..


Kevin McGourty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 08:29:54 AM
Joint Antrim Senior Hurling managers, Terence McNaughton and Dominic McKinley have taken the unusual step of issuing a statement to head off potential widespread rumour and innuendo surrounding suggestions that former county senior footballer, Kevin McGourty has joined the senior hurling panel.

In a statement released this evening they have stated that "discussions with Kevin had taken place before his dismissal from the senior football football squad".

"We had spoken to Kevin on this issue a number of weeks ago. It is no secret that Antrim senior hurlers lack substantial strength in depth in terms of forwards. We are always looking to try to strengthen the panel".

"This has been compounded by the absence of the Dunloy contingent, particularly Paddy Richmond and Paul Shields who are on duty with their club in the All Ireland Club semi-final".

"The door to joining the senior hurling squad is never closed to anyone. We will continue to look at any player who may have something to contribute to this senior hurling set-up".

"Kevin McGourty is just one such player. He will be given a trial period during which we can assess whether his hurling abilities are good enough for him to join the squad. At this stage, that is all that has occurred".

Both managers were keen to stress that "other players have been given opportunities such as this by them, when they managed different teams".

"We recognise that the timing of this will raise a few eyebrows in certain quarters. However, we have a responsibility to ensure that we take whatever steps we feel are necessary to strengthen this squad".

"Kevin McGourty stared training with the hurlers this evening on a trial basis only. If he is good enough and demonstrates the total committment, discipline and dedication necessary to join this panel, then he will be invited to become part of the set-up".

"If he doesn't do that, then he wont. It's as simple as that". 
   
he told me last week about this,  i thought it was a wind up, i'm very confused
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 14, 2008, 08:34:05 AM
So he hasn't time for football training but he has time for hurling training in Dunloy.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 08:36:18 AM
Jesus
Was just logging on and going to ask whether others thought that this could be a possibility? :o

I certainly think it's worth a punt due to his athletism, but his stickwork will be rusty as hell as he hasn't played for years (correct me if I'm wrong milltown)

...just read that statement milltown

If he is only there on a trial basis, I can't see him getting his stickwork sharpened up to the right level in such a short period of time. IMO he would need 3-4 months to get anything he had hurling wise back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 09:04:17 AM
he would tell you himself that his stick work is atrocious, but with some training he could  get it at some level.

he played one game for the seniors last year a couple for the reserves and that was it. the year before he played a lot.

we've had 10 training sessions this year with 30 training and Kevin has not been to any. with all his commitments, i'm sure he finds it hard to get the time ;D

as i said before he told me this two friday's ago. they met at a cafe in belfast and discussed about playing hurling. i thought it was a wind up at the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 14, 2008, 09:25:02 AM
Lads

This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard coming from the hurling camp since S&W took charge and believe there has been som crap coming out of that camp. Now dont get me wrong this is nothing personal against Kevin in anyway, my personal feelings I have about him I will keep to myself.

But it needs to be said by someone that we are over looking players that are far far far better than him to be even giving him a trial period is a joke. He is a cracking athlete of that there is no doubt but anyone who has seen him actually holding a hurl and who knows anything about the game knows that he is never going to be good enough for senior county level.

What happened to the youth policy so vigourously followed by the managers, if we are going back on that let me throw a few names at you that are not part of the current panel and you can decide for yourselves whether Kevin could hold a candle to these guys Hurling wise:

Liam Richmond - Dunloy
Greg O'Kane - Dunloy
Ciaran Kelly - Ballycastle
Brian McFall - St Johns
Conor McCambridge - Cushendall
Aidan Delargy - Cushendall

need I go on, I am actualy more insulted by this rumour than anything else. Time for a rethink!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 14, 2008, 09:51:04 AM
NAG you do have a personal vendetta, not against McGourty but against S&W.

The names you have thrown in:
Liam Richmond - Dunloy              Not sure whether he would play even if called up and that would be AFTER Dunloy's involvement.
Greg O'Kane - Dunloy                 Retired. Super player.
Ciaran Kelly - Ballycastle                Not sure whether he has made the call himself and retired from intercounty hurling but although a great player and servant not sure he'll get back to that level.   
Brian McFall - St Johns                   Will be a super club player for a few years more but too slow for current county standards
Conor McCambridge - Cushendall     Retired from county. Great player.
Aidan Delargy - Cushendall              Left panel last year (I think). Agree he would deserve his place in the forwards.

Comparing The Messiah (my new name for McG as he resurrects himself more than than the good lord did himself) to those players is stupid and proves nothing.

Now the statement I am not so sure about, but at least S&W tackled the problem/comments to follow on The Messiah's inclusion head on. Adding an athletic, strong player to the panel will only help with training matches etc. He was a great underage hurler as well.
We hear of these closed doors, 15 aside training matches down in Kilkenny where "the standard is better than some intercounty hurling matches" we should go for them ourselves. Players could be called in who are impressing in the leagues for such games. Nothing would keep a county player on his toes like the fear of being dropped due to a bad game in one of these.

That S&W have laid out this policy is a very good thing in my opinion - for too long county panels have been closed doors. It means as I've said above should players impress in the leagues they have a chance.

One thing that would sit strangely with me is if I was a St Galls hurling player - training away this year and then the Messiah makes the county panel.


Dropped at the weekend and on the third day he rose again. We play Kilkenny on Easter Sunday I believe - I am expecting big things.

All you doubting Thomas(es) can sit back and watch.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 10:03:06 AM
Personally i think its ridiculous, perhaps Mc G just wants to stay in the public eye and get himself a grant. He is a great athlete but his hurling ability and stickwork will never be at the level needed for inter county hurling. You cannot stop hurling for that length of time and then expect to suddenly find it, even when he was playing regularly his stickwork was average at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: OakLeaf on February 14, 2008, 10:08:08 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
have ya checked out the grading lists on the Antrim website? not a bad idea, we could argue over this for weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 14, 2008, 10:56:43 AM
I am not arguing agains him personally Glensman.

I agree with your summing up of each player.

Something doesnt sit with me - youth policy - bringing in a 26-27 year old who has never hurled at the highest level. I know the panel is not closed but my point is that if they are looking to that age group then there are others with far more to offer than him that is all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 11:30:35 AM
i'm staying out of the argument regarding Kevin being in the panel, but if you were at the match and seen the the lads/boys sitting on the subs bench, in  terms of strength, bar McCambridge (who when came on was off the pace due to his injury) there was not much to pick from.

were missing depth in the current panel, Kevin may not be the answer and it will more than likely be shown in 'trials' that he wont work out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 14, 2008, 11:36:14 AM
You couldn't make it up ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 12:14:17 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on February 14, 2008, 11:36:14 AM
You couldn't make it up ::)

Maybe you couldn't, but that doesn't mean that it's not worth a go. Take you're point milltown regarding the bench The reality is that alot of these players need to develop. I hope they stay committed for the medium term (2-4). Strong club leagues will help bring them on although that may be more difficult in div2 (don't really know though).
The reality is that there will be very few aged 28+ hurlers with families who will be able to commit to Antrim. The demands just get a bit too great. Where it is good for your career to play for your county in other places, it is not the case up here in Antrim, so whenever you see other counties getting the commitment from this type of player, then you have to look at the incentives he has to play year in year out. Just my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 12:22:58 PM
Is it not an act of total desperation though? We are continually being told by S & W that it is a long term plan and the players will seamlessly progress into the senior team yet here we have a player that we are taking a punt on. Believe you me he will be back to the footballers, maybe not this year but he will be back as he is a good footballer and a not so good hurler. I wonder how this fits in with S & W's long term plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 14, 2008, 12:23:13 PM
There's nothing else on the football thread except him, now he's taken over the hurling thread as well ffs.

Next week...........Kevin McGourty invades Poland on his own & marches on to world domination. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 12:28:57 PM
lads stop getting obsessed with it,  if a statement like that came out about McFaul coming back into the squad we would be discussing that.

i'd be surprised if he gets a run out. i'll be in dunloy on Sunday i dont think Kevin will.

who else could S&W bring in to baulk up the squad. we loooked small on sunday the dublin MEN were bigger and faster than our lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on February 14, 2008, 12:23:13 PM
Next week...........Kevin McGourty invades Poland on his own & marches on to world domination. You heard it here first.

Heard Sambo talking to him about the blitzkrieg attack last night at training session...there was me thinking we had a plan against the yellow bellies  :-\  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
I dont thnik we need a pile of bouncers playing for us, i thought our fellas were bursting out of their tops from what we are being told about their winters weights programme. It does not matter what size you are and how great an "athlete" you are if you dont have the touch and stickwork you may as well be pissing into the wind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 14, 2008, 01:27:00 PM
Minder

I think we are anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
minder your right if ya haven't the stick work/skill then your beat. but for instance big Donnely massive big lad, young, great stick work, i'm my late 30's but i'd give him a head start and still beat him to a ball. we need big strong and very mobile players, on sunday we were easily pushed off the ball. obviously some players can read a game and be in a position to get the ball. on Sunday for most part we give them the ball first and then tried to take it off them.

all is not lost i think we will come back well against Wexford on Sunday, a better performance will be expected in the heartland of hurling. if not Sambo and Woody will come under fire again from certain quarters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
Anybody see any odds for the Wexford match? Cant get on gambling sites in work, just porn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 01:51:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
It does not matter what size you are and how great an "athlete" you are if you dont have the touch and stickwork you may as well be pissing into the wind.

Of course stickwork is first, but strength and size are a real benefit to a good hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 01:51:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
It does not matter what size you are and how great an "athlete" you are if you dont have the touch and stickwork you may as well be pissing into the wind.

Of course stickwork is first, but strength and size are a real benefit to a good hurler

What if you are not a "good hurler" ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 14, 2008, 01:51:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
It does not matter what size you are and how great an "athlete" you are if you dont have the touch and stickwork you may as well be pissing into the wind.

Of course stickwork is first, but strength and size are a real benefit to a good hurler

What if you are not a "good hurler" ?

Then you're pissing in the wind?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Exactly  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 14, 2008, 02:36:48 PM
The key to the being a good hurler is being in the right place at the right time.

My example - Gary O'kane

I think my granny could have beat him a race at his fastest but he was never beat for a ball cause he was there first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on February 14, 2008, 03:26:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
Anybody see any odds for the Wexford match? Cant get on gambling sites in work, just porn.


10/3     Antrim      9/1      Wexford   2/7

     Evs + 5 pts      9/1      10/11 – 5 pts

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
Cheers Girt, pretty attractive odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 04:24:23 PM
for who minder? anrim beat me in my bet last weekend, thought they would overcome a Dublin team that really didn't show after getting beat by Antrim last year.

i think Wexford -5 is a good bet going on last weeks game, but i'm not going to touch it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2008, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 04:24:23 PM
for who minder? anrim beat me in my bet last weekend, thought they would overcome a Dublin team that really didn't show after getting beat by Antrim last year.

i think Wexford -5 is a good bet going on last weeks game, but i'm not going to touch it.
antrim would be worth a small punt,but a very small one. Home advantage is certainly an advantage for us,but we are not good enough to beat them if both teams play to potential. There is always a chance you will catch them on an off day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 15, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
I see by the forecast it gives a good wkend which means a dry ball for the game on sunday which could spell trouble for the boys in Dunloy.

I hope the defence can hold out because I expect a rampant and confident wexford to turn up after last weekends results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 15, 2008, 11:43:12 AM
Quote from: NAG on February 15, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
I see by the forecast it gives a good wkend which means a dry ball for the game on sunday which could spell trouble for the boys in Dunloy.

I hope the defence can hold out because I expect a rampant and confident wexford to turn up after last weekends results.

I heard the backs got the runaround last week, i would prefer to see Mc Keegan in midfield as he is far too loose for CHB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 15, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
Do you really think so minder?

I think he is way more effective as a CHB than mid field.

The mid fielders should be playing closer to him so that he has cover if he decides to cover someone else, its a team game and he hasnt had a mid field in a while to back him up.
He is good under a dropping ball and covers the ground well and sets up good attacks, we should be more tactically aware of this and give him some support and at the same time opening up the forward line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 15, 2008, 12:04:34 PM
I wouldn't be very hopeful after last weeks performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 15, 2008, 12:05:36 PM
NAG i just think he doesent mark his man tightly enough, he clears a lot of ball but i think a Number 6's first priority is to neutralize the No 11. All about opinions though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 15, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 15, 2008, 12:34:32 PM
this arguement has been had many times. how many no. 11's have you ever seen clean him out? i

ulster club final a couple of years ago.   one of the young clarkes, very small thin guy (stephen I think), gave Karl an awful roasting. scored several points.

anyway, karl is one of our most dedicated and consistent players. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 15, 2008, 01:03:04 PM
Eastwoods Odds

Antrim 4/1 v Wexford 2/9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on February 15, 2008, 02:22:40 PM
Johnny Campbell out of the entire NHL apparently, his operation wasn't as successful as had been hoped
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 15, 2008, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 15, 2008, 12:34:32 PM
this arguement has been had many times. how many no. 11's have you ever seen clean him out? i think he is great in both positions, he offers scoring threat from midfield also, but who else should/could play CHB (and dont say johnny campbell).

Other potential CHBs Mickey McCambridge, Ciaran Herron,Malachy Molloy when available, or possibly young Hippy. I know young Donnelly is short of pace but he is great in the air and reads the game well when facing the ball. I would prefer him in full back but Neilly seems to be doing the business and deserves a go in there. From what I have heard so far the experiment with young Hippy at full forward has had mixed results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 16, 2008, 09:31:41 AM
I agree with your comments about young Hippy. Definity worth a try out at CHB.

The entries & gradings for the hurling leagues are on the web site.

http://www.antrimgaa.net/administration/grading-lists/ (http://www.antrimgaa.net/administration/grading-lists/)

It's strange seeing Rossa & Ballycran listed as Div 2/3.

In the lower Divisions it looks like Mitchel's and Na Fuiseoige are gone but McDermots are back and St Bridget's are fielding in hurling for the first time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
having seen Hippy close up on a couple of occasions, fullforward is not his position, fullback maybe, but his lack of pace could be exposed, what fullforward sits on the edge of the square now days.

karl was one of our best players in dublin last week and caught a lot of ball, Micky McCambridge didn't look fit at all when he came on was falling all over the show, and when Kettle came on he kept wacking his man till the referee booked him. from having a strong squad last year we are understrength this year, would do no harm in talking to big malloy and working out something that will suit timewise that his.

how are we to stop Wexfords game, they play very quick early ball into the forwards. a tactic that we are very poor on. watch tomorrows game and see how many times we run with the ball instead of getting up the pitch early.

is McGourty going to get a run out? would be strange seeing him there with a hurl in his hand ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nearlymad on February 16, 2008, 05:37:53 PM
 Let the ball and stick do the work instead of the legs.Taught to us at a very early age but not often adhered to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2008, 05:54:51 PM
Quote from: nearlymad on February 16, 2008, 05:37:53 PM
Let the ball and stick do the work instead of the legs.Taught to us at a very early age but not often adhered to.
beautiful words
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2008, 09:30:33 PM
When reading the preview of the game tommorow in the Irish News today it struck me and pissed me off to read another soccer analogy from Sambo, some drivel about players for Man Utd earning £100k a wk, i hate the way he feels the need to compare something in the premiership to the GAA. Sambo is always at it for some reason, perhaps he would rather be managing Carnlough United.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2008, 02:48:50 PM
Antrim beat Wexford 3-10 to 1-09 (might be wrong on the score)

Strange game but great result for Antrim. Wexford never looked at the races. Best performances from Delargy, Graffin, Herron, McManus & Stewart although on the whole most of the team did well. Karl Stewart would be my MOTM as he bagged two goals when up in the corner asd well as doing alot of foraging around midfield when brought out. I actually think that if that Antrim team believed in themselves a bit more they could cause a few more upsets.

On a negative note...although the game never really got going the crowd could and should have been a bit more vocal in their support as there was a great crowd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 17, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Agree with you about the crowd skull, I think it has been mentioned before but the noise at county games is pitiful compared to club matches. First half was quite scrappy and wexford seemed to have no real fight in the last 15 minutes. While some of Antrims hurling was not the classiest you will see at least the application and effort was present and the tackling from the front line was pretty good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2008, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2008, 05:42:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 14, 2008, 04:24:23 PM
for who minder? anrim beat me in my bet last weekend, thought they would overcome a Dublin team that really didn't show after getting beat by Antrim last year.

i think Wexford -5 is a good bet going on last weeks game, but i'm not going to touch it.
antrim would be worth a small punt,but a very small one. Home advantage is certainly an advantage for us,but we are not good enough to beat them if both teams play to potential. There is always a chance you will catch them on an off day
milltown you should have listened, minder knows best, i took my own advice and stuck a fiver on them at 4/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2008, 03:55:43 PM
I think the issue with the crowd is easily explained, people generally do not care as much about how the county teams fortunes compared to their own club, many go to see the opposition especially if we are playing a team such as cork,waterford etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on February 17, 2008, 03:58:55 PM
You are certainly right about the club  county thing Minder but is that the case in all counties? In some county matches there seem to be a great atmosphere but not at antrims
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2008, 05:59:45 PM
So in the likely event if we finish the campaign with just todays victory we will be relegated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 18, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Will more than likely come down to scores with Dublin but on yesterdays performace id fancy them to give Wexford a pasting.

Has anyone actually ever seen a southern side so pityful in their approach to a serious game?

I thought they were completely lack luster all over the field. Id say 2 maybe three of their players we even close to the pace of the game.

As to Antrim it is so hard to say anything positive, Liam Watson was the only palyer on Antrims side that looked genuine county standard.

Ryan's pucks out where coming down with snow on them and left it very easy for the half backs to come through and block the ball down, that type of ball always favours the defender. The fuol back line was probably the most consistent line on the field, although Jacob did give graffin a hard time for most of the game.

Half back Karl was shakey to start but came into the game abd had a solid if not spectacular game, along with heron. McCambridge over played the ball on numerous occasions with short handpasses against a more 'up for it' team would have been punished severly.

MIdfield was bypassed for most of the game and in the second half we came out on the wrong side of most of the breaking ball in this sector.

Half forwards, Liam watson was the class act on show and suprisingly for him was willing to pass the ball to others around him, he was supported well by McMauns who was strong at different times in the game but with a more settled head could use the ball better. Magill was non existant for most of the game, drifted in and out of the play and go dominated under the ball.

Full forward line was poor enough in my estimation, nipper quinn was hooked on several occasions we he planted his feet to hit the ball. Young donnelly is exactly that young, he had the ball in his hand once in the entire 70mins of hurling when he just had to pass the ball into the net which he failed to do. This is def not working for him and I think he is only warming the positon until the return of richmond. Karl Stweart flatters to decieve the whole time, he did pounce on the goal well in the first half and the second was reached to him, but IMO i think you need more from a corner forward in terms of attacking threatening play.

I dont mean to sound negative but I know that I have, a win is a win is a win as they say. But i think we have to qualify that with the poor poor standard of wexford yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 10:37:12 AM
Cracking result yesterday considering Wexford's high of the week before, even though we started of pretty slow with some of our better players unable to dip the ball and fumbling it settled down in a good contest against evenly matched teams.

Everybody tried the whole game and that was the difference, some good tackling and great passing went on during the match. Winkers cross field pass in the second half for a score being one of the better moves. Big Donal did well for most of the match at midfield tired near the end but done enough McManus is a cracking hurler and has been consistent in all of the games I've seen him play. Maybe tends to get caught in a few fracas but I'm sure he'll knock that on the head.

The back line were on top yesterday, we still have periods were we stop playing so it was good that Wexford were poor in front of goal.

I noticed that a lot of the div2/3 players had a good game Ciaran Herron, Karl Stewart and Brendan Nipper Quinn played well before coming off, sorry just a cheap dig there.

Still think that big hippy needs to be moved to maybe the halfback area, as a fullforward his not as effective. Was given a freebie and instead of walking round the keeper he blasted straight at him.

So who's for Waterford next week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
hardstation, have you ever marked Kar Stewart? when you do you will form a different opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2008, 11:14:26 AM
NAG that is an awful negative report.

Ciaran Herron, Sean Delargy and Neil McManus were also excellent yesterday. Graffin got it tough but did well against Rory Jacob - a boy who has given maybe top intercounty defenders their fill of it but he performed well.

Granted I thought our handling / first touch looked like it could need a bit of work and we could have been sharper to the breaking ball but there were a lot more positives out of the game than negatives. The upper body strength of our players looks much greater than it has been too. We also would need more from our full forward line but them boys are young and will hopefully learn.

Wexford were poor and on that performance will be beat by Dublin but they've proven in the past they can up it when it counts so they may do so against Dublin - you never know.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
'Karl Stweart flatters to decieve the whole time'

YOUR WORDS NASTY
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 18, 2008, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
hardstation, have you ever marked Kar Stewart? when you do you will form a different opinion
When to fcuk did I ever mention Karl Stewart?

Aye i was gonna mention that earlier only the board is fcuked ! Mistaken identity i take it Milltown.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 18, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Full forward line was poor enough in my estimation, nipper quinn was hooked on several occasions we he planted his feet to hit the ball. Young donnelly is exactly that young, he had the ball in his hand once in the entire 70mins of hurling when he just had to pass the ball into the net which he failed to do. This is def not working for him and I think he is only warming the positon until the return of richmond. Karl Stweart flatters to decieve the whole time, he did pounce on the goal well in the first half and the second was reached to him, but IMO i think you need more from a corner forward in terms of attacking threatening play.

I dont mean to sound negative but I know that I have, a win is a win is a win as they say. But i think we have to qualify that with the poor poor standard of wexford yesterday.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 18, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
Milltown

It was me that said that about Stewart and i think if you look back over his county career he has done just that.

He got two handy goals yesterday and IMO contributed very little else to the game, yes you can say two goals is massive but against other teams we just wouldnt have got those two sloppy chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2008, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 18, 2008, 02:18:44 PM
Are you some sort of nut?
NAG - hardstation. Two different people.

Or are they?? Its hard to tell in the current Gaa Board climate........  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 18, 2008, 02:27:31 PM
Cheers Hardstation but i aint no ones bitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2008, 02:31:11 PM
sorry Station my fault, cant read ::)

Nag i'd be very hard on Karl if he's had a bad game and if you check my previous posts then you'd see that. on his day he's one of the best forwards in Antrim. and if he was given more quality ball then we get more out of him. your other assessments seem to be spot on. Wexford blow hot and cold a bit like ourselves but they had a decent team on and i'm sure expected to win the match.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 18, 2008, 02:34:44 PM
I agree with the quality ball aspect of your arguement, too many times we had time on the ball and failed to deliver that killer ball when it was actually easier to play it.

Watson was the exception with the ball to simon mccrory which was sublime!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 18, 2008, 03:16:08 PM
Would agreement with alot of the sentiments on with regards to the match.  On the venue, it is pleasing to see the large crowd that turn out at these North Antrim venues for matches, and traditionally the team performs well on the club pitches.  but the atompshere is dire for such a large crowd, and i do actually wonder if alot of the people are there to support antrim or just criticise the players of other clubs.

I thought at the start wexford were going to run away with it, and they will regret not playing with a bit more urgency early on when Antrim looked anything but settled.  But gradually as the half wore on the Saffron began winning a few more battles, inspired it has to be said by a rather fortunate goal. 

Antrims defence looked strong, the full back line played well and i though young graffin had a good game on wexfords classiest forward.  Sean Delargy and Ciaran herron were excellent and the biggest improvement in Antrim this year was their discipline in the tackle, very few easy frees given away and forced Wexford to shoot from distance and angles which contributed to the 16 wides they hit

midfield was bypassed for much of the game, but Donal Mcnaughton did enough to suggest he may be a option there for championship and Simon McCrory looked good in that foraging role.  Half forwards played well as a trio, there is serious talent in that line.  The full forward line doesn't carry the same threat and you can help but feel they are seriously missing a scoring target man in the Dick O'kane mould.  don't think Hippy is the answer

overall a poor wexford team and a decent performance from the Saffrons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 18, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Great result for Antrim  - it certainly looks like they are making great progressu under Sambo -
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2008, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 18, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Great result for Antrim  - it certainly looks like they are making great progressu under Sambo -

Steady on there Orangeman.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2008, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 18, 2008, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 18, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Great result for Antrim  - it certainly looks like they are making great progressu under Sambo -

Steady on there Orangeman.....

Terry, you're just a bit too quick to pounce on any praise Terence might get. I'm not saying that some of the praise isn't false (alot of it is), it's just you appear to have a personal rather than an objective position when it comes to da management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2008, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 18, 2008, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 18, 2008, 03:22:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 18, 2008, 03:19:55 PM
Great result for Antrim  - it certainly looks like they are making great progressu under Sambo -

Steady on there Orangeman.....

Terry, you're just a bit too quick to pounce on any praise Terence might get. I'm not saying that some of the praise isn't false (alot of it is), it's just you appear to have a personal rather than an objective position when it comes to da management.

Not at all i just think we go overboard in both scenarios in this county, last week we were a shower of tossers in many quarters after losing to Dublin now we have moved full circle. I think we should be cautiously optimistic, nothing more. Do you not think comments like Orangeman's are ill advised? As far as i was aware there were two people managing the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 19, 2008, 02:56:40 PM
Hows Dunloy shaping up any suprises?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2008, 03:31:34 PM
heading down to clones also, was there the last time the played Birr, was a game that Dunloy threw away, Birr still mainly the same team. Dunloy would have a lot of new players on the team from then.

i hope dunloy win,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
What are the general feelings on the Dunloy game?

It's all very quiet and the expectations would seem quite low compared to normal.

I hope / think that there could be a sneaky win here. Couldn't see there being an all ireland in the current team though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2008, 04:31:00 PM
Dunloy obviously have a ban on forums and newspapers (bar today) but i didn't see much of a threat as say a full strength Ballyhale team, when watching the two Birr games that were televised. although harsh weather for thoses games Birr seemed to get he rub of the green on the day.

in saying that, any team that comes out of a Leinster club hurling will be fancying themselves against a Ulster team.

think game should be a cracker and played at a faster rate than the county game last week at Dunloy.

on that note i went for a pint in the pub on the corner and watch the first half of the Tipp game, and was wondering when watching a game live on tv, does it look quicker than say watching it from the stand?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
I noticed too Milltown that the Tipp Limerick game looked very quick / tough on tv. I'd say there's no love lost between those two teams though after last years saga so they'd be wanting to both go out all guns blazing.

I would say though you have a point - I think games look quicker on tv. That said Dublin Antrim looked slow enough on tv but I think we would still have the problem of playing at a slower pace. I don't think the wexford game would have looked quick on tv at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 20, 2008, 12:42:54 PM
Have just noticed a story about the International rules series, I know it doesnt belong on here but with Brennan saying he wants the clubs to decide.

This totally reeks of pandering to the clubs now that they were given a say in the grants issue and it smacks of give them this little thing because deep down no one cares either way. Keep them happy.

"LET THEM EAT CAKE"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 23, 2008, 09:17:06 PM
Championship draws on Monday night apparently. If anyone is at the meeting can they post them? What format was finally agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 23, 2008, 10:24:06 PM
Senior Championship is an open draw with 8 teams in it. Open draw as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 23, 2008, 10:24:06 PM
Senior Championship is an open draw with 8 teams in it. Open draw as well.
So in conclusion it will be an open draw . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 24, 2008, 10:46:43 AM
i heard all eight teams will be drawn out of a hat with no seedings or byes, i have also heard it will be an open draw so its hard to know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2008, 10:17:31 PM
dall V glenariffe
st johns v rossa

thats two good matches there, couldnt have picked them if you tried
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 25, 2008, 10:18:25 PM
great draw for the dall!!

st johns V rossa should be a god old tussle.

u hear any more draws?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 08:06:31 AM
i thought it was Glenarriffe v Dunloy. anyway i find it a little bit strange that the big three missed each other. heard games are to be played at a neutral venue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 26, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 08:06:31 AM
i thought it was Glenarriffe v Dunloy. anyway i find it a little bit strange that the big three missed each other. heard games are to be played at a neutral venue

I'm sure the mathematicians could explain it for you milltown. It was either probability at work or hot balls placed in the bag. Who knows. Look it's what the clubs wanted so we can't start complaining too much when the draw maybe doesn't suit us.

Looking at the pairings I think that the draw is slippery enough for the top 3/4.
Cusehendall playing bitter rivals
St Johns playing bitter rivals
Loughgiel having strugggled against the milltown men in the past
Dunloy having struggled against Ballycastle in early rounds in the past


Shame that there is only 8 teams. Antrim really should have a ten year plan to get this to 12-16 teams, with 5-6 really challenging for the title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 11:02:26 AM
just a cheap dig at the CCC Skull no harm intended, like to wind them up, hey bite everytime
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 26, 2008, 01:11:58 PM
Skull do you really consider the Johnnie's a top 3/4 team?! There is an out and out top 3 with everyone else trailing in their dust. I really can't see anyone outside the big 3 winning this in the near future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 01:18:26 PM
so tony what do we do? do we have what Down do at the minute and have a three way championship?

we could have easily opted out of senior this year and tried for the "glory of winning interm. Championship". no glory in that, would rather test ourselves against the big teams. maybe when we start to get hammered we wil play inter.

should they make the Football championship a two way race or just let us win it every year? no, teams need to test themselves in Championship only then will they gain enough experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 01:18:26 PM
so tony what do we do? do we have what Down do at the minute and have a three way championship?

we could have easily opted out of senior this year and tried for the "glory of winning interm. Championship". no glory in that, would rather test ourselves against the big teams. maybe when we start to get hammered we wil play inter.

should they make the Football championship a two way race or just let us win it every year? no, teams need to test themselves in Championship only then will they gain enough experience.

Milltown i think the problem yourselves and Rossa will have is playing Division 2 hurling all year, and probably tanking teams, then making the step up against Loughguile, and the faster pace and stickwork that they will bring. The preparation in Division 2 for playing Loughguile wont be great.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 26, 2008, 04:03:28 PM
no other option this year minde but we'll stick at it. as Loughgiel knwo from last year that we will certainly put up a fight, was tight last year untill Loughgiel pulled away in the latter stages, we fade badly on the 50 mark every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 29, 2008, 08:11:29 AM
Well lads I haven't been about the past week but Jesus thats a great draw! Watch the numbers at training go through the roof with the prospect of a slash at the Johnnies in the SHC! It will be tough for us playing Div 2 this year because in truth some of the games will be mis- matches so maybe the Ulster league will be taken seriously.

The open draw and straight knock out makes these games great occasions and big crowds can be expected.

I agree with Milltown Row about pluggin away at senior and there's always the chance of an upset. It's happened before!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 29, 2008, 12:18:14 PM
Just read dessie donnelly's article in the Gaelic Life, he has the bear face cheek to complain about the number of teams that have entered the senior hurling Championship?

he's lucky after he himself through Ballycastle made the proposal/amendment to drop the league to 8 teams. he's lucky Rossa and ourselves entered the senior championship otherwise it would have been 6 teams contesting the Championship.  mental
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 29, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
Milltown

Doesnt matter how many enter it, there is only three competing for it and thats a fact!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 29, 2008, 01:31:23 PM
yes i know Nag, like the football but had to laugh at Dessie remarks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 29, 2008, 03:37:19 PM
Hardstation

Whats opinion about it?
I think you'll find that it is fact?

whats your counter arguement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 03, 2008, 03:13:51 AM
Who has the displeasure to be playing Dunloy in the ulster league? When are they lads going to start playing county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2008, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: youngfella on March 03, 2008, 03:13:51 AM
Who has the displeasure to be playing Dunloy in the ulster league? When are they lads going to start playing county?

WTF does that reply mean? Did your ma never tell you to use your words. Until you do, people will have no clue wtf you are talking about



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 03, 2008, 11:39:28 AM
seems clear. Skull use your finger to point at the word that your reading  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2008, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 03, 2008, 11:39:28 AM
seems clear. Skull use your finger to point at the word that your reading  ;)

Believe me ...I resorted to it. Still don't know what you're getting at? What will the displeasure be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2008, 08:36:50 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 03, 2008, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 03, 2008, 11:39:28 AM
seems clear. Skull use your finger to point at the word that your reading  ;)

Believe me ...I resorted to it. Still don't know what you're getting at? What will the displeasure be?

It must be a back handed compliment, i.e. whoever has drawn Dunloy is in for a tanking.

I suppose we're due up at some point in both the Ulster league and Antrim league, sure we'll just keep pucking the ball out to youse.
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2008, 12:34:33 PM
While were not on the subject, what ever happened to Johnny Flynn milltown? Can remember asking you this a long time ago but your reply escapes me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 04, 2008, 01:17:28 PM
back training away and looking fit. work and kids got on top of him last year but back in the fold.

training has gone well this year so far. new management team in now and good numbers attending training.

we cant afford to lose players as good as flynser
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 05, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
The Antrim panel for this weekend's game with Waterford is as follows:

1.Ryan Mc Garry Mc Quillans Ballycastle
2.Arron Graffin Ruairi Og Cushendall
3.Michael Mc Cambridge Ruairi Og Cushendall
4.Sean Delargy Ruairi Og Cushendall
5.Ciaran Herron Lamh Dhearg Hannahstown
6.Karl Mc Keegan Ruairi Og Cushendall
7.Kevin Elliott Ruairi Og Cushendall
8.Simon Mc Crory St John's Belfast
9.Donal Mc Naughton Ruairi Og Cushendall
10.Paddy Mc Gill Ruairi Og Cushendall
11.Liam Watson Loughiel Shamrocks
12.Michael Magill Tir na Nog Randalstown
13.Karl Stewart St Gall's Belfast
14.Cormac Donnelly Mc Quillans Ballycastle
15.Brendan Quinn Gort na Mona Belfast
16.Ronan Kearney Ruairi Og Cushendall
17.Michael Kettle Rossa Belfast
18.Eddie Mc Closkey Loughiel Shamrocks
19.Shane Mc Naughton Ruairi Og Cushendall
20.PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels
21.Johnny Campbell Loughiel Shamrocks
22.Colm Duffin Tir na n Og Randalstown
23.Darren Hamill Shane O Neill's Glenarm
24.Cathal Mc Auley Carey Faughs
25.Kevin Mc Gourty St Gall's Belfast
26.Paddy Richmond Cuchullains Dunloy


Good to see paddy in the fold. Is that Doog from carey on the panel? Also is that kevin mc gouty (mega mouth)?  {why sambo want some one to compete with his ego on panel? } If it is these to boys I might have to get the saffron gear back out!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 05, 2008, 03:54:43 PM
whats wrong with the Loughgiel fullback, has played well all season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2008, 03:56:59 PM
He has a bad ankle i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 05, 2008, 04:04:29 PM
heard mcgourty played well in a in house game, is this true? has yet to show up for the club for either team this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 05, 2008, 04:24:34 PM
despite antrims recent good results, i think it shows the limited talent in antrim atm.

This is the wrong attitude lad. if Antrim carry there recent form it can only be a good thing.

When the rest of the dunloy fella filter back the bench will look a bit tidy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 05, 2008, 04:41:36 PM
That is the panel that they are going to be working with until the end of the season give or take a few players.

Think this is the weakest squad we have had in years to be honest.

I love all this positive thinking and all but I dont understand how Nipper Quinn can suddenly be good enough when he was no where near good enough in the past with better players around him.

I hope im wrong but i seldom am!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 05, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
As long as you believe in yourself and and the boy next to you then there is a chance. Sometimes the smallest dog has the biggest bark!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jack_Black on March 05, 2008, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 05, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
As long as you believe in yourself and and the boy next to you then there is a chance. Sometimes the smallest dog has the biggest bark!

nice fantasy yougfella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 05, 2008, 05:35:19 PM
England rugby team 2007. They are wrote off but had the self belief will to fight for each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 06, 2008, 09:07:05 AM
Youngfella

The england rugby team are the second biggest financially back team in the whole competition they have more players playing that the majority of the other countries competing so dont fall into this English fantasy world where they are proclaiming themselves as underdogs, they were after all reigning champions.

I just fail to see how even the most committed of players if they are not good enough can help our cause.
Surely it is the job of managers to manage and to get the best players on board and get them committed to hurling for Antrim and go forward from there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on March 06, 2008, 09:10:00 AM
Neil McManus injured as well??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 06, 2008, 09:55:31 AM
Aye the back injury that he suffered last year & in reality since he was U16 has returned. Not sure how long he's out for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 06, 2008, 10:23:38 AM
big loss to the team, he's been the best player this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 06, 2008, 01:06:27 PM
Who are the best/better players then NAG?
Aside from Tosh and a a target man ala Gregory O'Kane with Richmond playing off him who else is there?

I think you previously went through a list of players who had retired, weren't interested or were with Dunloy.
In all reailty Richmond and maybe Sheilds will make the team from Dunloy. One further squad member, maybe 1/2 more.

Re Nipper Quinn. He was always a good minor, under 21 and senior player within Antrim. Maybe he wasn't on the scene for a couple of years, that transition is hard. But becasue a player busts his balls over the winter (as they are all doing) and is back in contention that's room to criticise. He was never far away.
At the Wexford game although getting hooked once and maybe blocked once one thing that struck me was that he looked like a corner forward...he came to the ball like a corner forward, he turned like a corner forward. With more practice and game time he could fit in there. Instead of playing Paul Shields there (who does indeed do well, when he's not told to roam in the half back line?!?!) or Karl Stewart there - neither of whom are corner forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 06, 2008, 02:48:35 PM
I wasnt criticising Glensman

Merely pointing out facts, he came to the ball and got it like a corner forward and stood up and got hooked and blocked like he always has done since I have seen him hurling from no age.

My problem is that the management got rid of or made not welcome Tosh and the likes and that is my point that that was poor management and that these guys that are there now would not get onto the best three clubs teams.

right or wrong? that to me has always been a better indication of a players standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
I'd say Quinn would get on Cushendall or Loughgiel teams. Not so sure about Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 06, 2008, 03:28:11 PM
He might get on loughgiel team because they are sadly short of quality forwards but I really couldnt seem him making it into the big two's team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2008, 04:34:16 PM
Cushendall have a very strong defense / midfield bu they're a wee bit short in the forwards. Had they a few better forwards they'd be an unbeatable team. Sure they've 5 of 6 county defenders.

I'd say he would get on the Cushendall team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2008, 04:47:48 PM
I'm with Glensman on this one. Came away after the Wexford game thinking that if his decision making was better with ball in hand then he could be a real threat. He does come onto the ball very well and looked lively. It's up to good coaches to bring him on a bit further. If he's prepared to follow good advice then I think he has great potential.

Lets not right off talent too early lads. Theres been plenty of great hurlers who needed a fair few years in senior before their full potential was realized.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 06, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 06, 2008, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: NAG on March 06, 2008, 02:48:35 PM
I wasnt criticising Glensman

Merely pointing out facts, he came to the ball and got it like a corner forward and stood up and got hooked and blocked like he always has done since I have seen him hurling from no age.

My problem is that the management got rid of or made not welcome Tosh and the likes and that is my point that that was poor management and that these guys that are there now would not get onto the best three clubs teams.

right or wrong? that to me has always been a better indication of a players standard.


Fair point, but in all honestly Tosh and Brian McFall were disrupting factors on that panel and that isn't any great secret.

I agree maybe the panel isn't as fancy or as good stick men as there has been in previous years but would you'd rather have 25 players who are going to bond well, work hard and lead the life that is now required to be an inter county hurler? or boys who will knock over a few handy points from loose balls and drink themselves senseless on the Sunday night? (maybe thats a bit harsh as I do understand these guys are amateurs)

The young lads brought in over the past two years are very dedicated hurlers, in hurling and outside hurling. That dedication has rubbed of on the older lads.

Like it or not OUR county is on the up!

Maybe jealously is a factor here!

Well Groundlie interesting first post, well first post under that username anyway. How was Tosh a disruptive factor? I would say if you spoke to last years panel to a man they would tell you this is balls, but then you know this and are just making a bit of mischief. I would say you could probably count on one hand the amount of times Tosh would be pissed in a calendar year. Mc Fall may be a differnet story in that regard but i think his inter county career came to an end because he lost whatever pace he had, a prerequisite for inter county hurling. Maybe you should have lured us in with a few posts before unveiling yourself as a halfwit instead of blowing your load straightaway.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2008, 08:24:34 AM
lads i dont believe for one second that these new players brought in are drink free.

you only have to go to the Bot on a friday/saturday/sunday night and you'll see any amount of county footballers hurlers and duel players on the rip. so groundlie thats a fantasy.

it's national league were we should be concentrating on as we are never going to win the Liam McCarthy cup any year soon, untill we are pushing for the league only then will we be serious about the Championship.

in my opinion they should be peaking for the league and put up a good show in the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 07, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
Milltown well said I agree whole heartedly.

Glensman, there is no jealousy on my part Im just being a realist and dont like to be spoon fed bullshit.

Tosh was the epitemy of what an intercounty should behave like, he was dedicated to training, drank maybe once twice a year in and out of season and kept himself in superb shape right through the year. I think you should retract your statement about him Groundie.

Now I think you'll find if you viisit a certain establishment in the glens on most weekends you will find half the county panel in there enjoying themselves, which I dont have a problem with at all, but you cant slander boys who were there before them and continue to allow the current squad to do the same things and worse. It seems to me as long as it is happening in this establishment it seems to be excused, maybe its like the twilight zone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 07, 2008, 11:57:49 AM
First and foremost...take that back NAG...calling me groundlie. Tut tut.


Where and why did we jump onto a discussion about drink?

A considerable amount of both panels are students. Of course they are going to drink...and though it has been talked to death on here and elsewhere there is nothing wrong with having a few pints now and again if its controlled. As far as I am aware there is no drink ban on the hurling team.

As for Tosh I have no clue whether he was a disruptive influence. Certain stories suggested he was, he wasn't easy to deal with but if that's not the truth then so be it. I said that he should be on the panel!
Fact of the matter is he is not on the panel whether by his own choice or by clash of personalities with S&W.

Groundlie - not so sure jealousy is a factor here at all.

I agree Milltown as well about the way forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 07, 2008, 12:00:13 PM
On another topic Milltown are you aware how your duel players are going to cope this year?

I haven't actually had an indepth look at the football and hurling fixtures but there will arguably be Div 1 football and Div 2 hurling clashes.

Div 1 football on Wednesday nights and Sundays?
Div 2 hurling on Sundays?
Those are just guesses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 07, 2008, 11:57:49 AM
First and foremost...take that back NAG...calling me groundlie. Tut tut.


Where and why did we jump onto a discussion about drink?

A considerable amount of both panels are students. Of course they are going to drink...and though it has been talked to death on here and elsewhere there is nothing wrong with having a few pints now and again if its controlled. As far as I am aware there is no drink ban on the hurling team.

As for Tosh I have no clue whether he was a disruptive influence. Certain stories suggested he was, he wasn't easy to deal with but if that's not the truth then so be it. I said that he should be on the panel!
Fact of the matter is he is not on the panel whether by his own choice or by clash of personalities with S&W.

Groundlie - not so sure jealousy is a factor here at all.

I agree Milltown as well about the way forward.

Glensman what "stories" are you referring to? If you dont want to put them on the main board you can PM me, as i have never heard even a whisper that he was a "disruptive influence".......I have never heard of a manager personally calling to a players house who was a "disruptive influence" as he did last year asking him to reconsider when Tosh said he was packing it in after he thought he was being messed about against Laois, i would have thought he was glad to see the back of him, But perhaps you can enlighten us anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2008, 12:49:12 PM
McGrath back in for Waterford

Waterfords Ken McGrath
07 March 2008


Ken McGrath will make his first start of the season for Waterford when they take on Antrim in Sunday's NHL Division 1 game.

The Mount Sion man had not featured for the county since last year's All-Ireland semi-final defeat to Limerick and there were serious concerns over his availability this year.

Waterford (NHL v Antrim) - C. Hennessy; E. Murphy, K. Moran, A. Kearney; R. Foley, K. McGrath, J. Kennedy; M. Walsh, S. O'Sullivan; S. Prendergast, D. Shanahan, E. Kelly; S. Walsh, D. Prendergast, S. Casey.


I think the problems S&W had with Tosh would have been his style of play not over him being disruptive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2008, 01:04:11 PM
As far as i'm aware all dual players will play this year, the county footballers find it difficult to attend hurling training but on wed night al attended, while not training they give a clear answer that they will be involved.

as for the difficulties of games overlapping i'm not aware of football games and hurling games on at the same time/day this has not really been a problem in the past. when our club reached the all ireland final we also competed in the hurling semi final.

players want games and when there are games they wont be training. new manager in place so there is eagerness by everyone to get involved. looking forward to the year after i've calmed down about the CCC and the way things were done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 07, 2008, 01:58:29 PM
Minder - calm down. I am not engaging in this.
Certain parties were keen to say last year that he was a disruptive influence, that he threw a strop after the treatment he got whether fairly or not...if its not true then so be it and if it looked like I was trying to taint him I wasn't.
Either way he's not on the panel. He would be a good addition but he's not there.

Good to hear it Milltown row and glad there will be no fixtures clashes for you.
Have you fully calmed down yet re the CCC?!


Strong team from Waterford - can we hold them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2008, 03:18:29 PM
Michael Gribben, father of paul griben (nee veronica) ;D

Yes Michael came in last year to work with the team with the view of taking us the following season. Michael was a great player in both hurling and football and represented antrim at all levels. has always taken the juveniles but all the ones he has taken over the years are now on the senior squad.

comands a lot of respect from the current squad and committie of the club so that always heps. looking forward to playing this year, unfortunately it will be div 4 for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 09, 2008, 04:03:55 PM
3-26 to 2-9  final score  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2008, 04:06:51 PM
well the score i saw was 3-29 to 3-10,either way it is a bloody hammering
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 09, 2008, 04:09:41 PM
your right, just checked aertel again

3.29 to 2.10 shocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2008, 04:10:50 PM
The walsh cup seems like a long time ago,cork next sunday so it wont get much better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2008, 04:55:41 PM
How the hell does a team that is training as well as we are constantly told concede 3-29 in a game ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 09, 2008, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2008, 04:11:18 PM
I heard that McGourty started at left half forward in place of Magill or Mc Gill.

It's just wrong, in my opinion, that Sambo and Woody have even entertained the thought of having McGourty in the hurling squad.

His commitment to the football team means that he just shouldn't be considered and it's a joke that full-time club hurlers are being overlooked for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 09, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Personally can see why they took a chance inviting McG onto the panel, with a view to having his stick work at a decent standard for championship, but I'd be very surprised if it is any where close to what it needs to be for County hurling at the minute. Must have been a very loose game today. 32 scores is some nicking. Waterford we must remember are a top 3 side. Sure we're no closer to waterford, but I really wouldn't expect us to be. Just need to keep improving standards throughout the county through proper coaching. Play regular club fixtures at a good intensity. Once the quantity of quality players improves then we give ourselves a chance. Once again unrealistic expectations are being set after one or two decent results.

Fully expect Cork to run riot next week, they showed a fair amount of class in the second half today. Just wish they carried that class off the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 09, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
NHL: holders hammer Saffrons
09 March 2008


Waterford handed out a lesson to Antrim as they stormed to a comprehensive 3-29 to 3-10 Division 1A victory at Dungarvan.

It was all Waterford early on and Antrim, playing into the wind, were shellshocked as the Decies tore into a 1-5 to no score lead inside ten minutes. Declan Prendergast, Dan Shanahan, Ken McGrath (2) and Eoin Kelly scored the points and Dan the Man found the net to compound the northerners' woe.

The hosts continued to dominate and had further scores from McGrath (2), captain Michael Walsh and Kelly. Brendan Quinn opened the Saffrons' account in the 14th minute and that score sparked a mini Antrim revival.

Liam Watson knocked over a couple of points and Simon McRory netted as the gap came down to nine points, 1-13 to 1-4. But Waterford were in relentless form and they tore into a 2-18 to 1-5 lead after half an hour.

Walsh, Kelly (2), the two Prendergasts and substitute Eoin McGrath were all on target and Shanahan grabbed his second goal. Waterford added two more points to lead by 18 at the break, 2-20 to 1-5.

The rout continued and the rampant Munster county led by 3-26 to 2-9 with ten minutes to play. Kelly (1-6) grabbed their third goal and Karl Stewart kicked one to the net for Antrim.

Paddy Richmond bagged a late consolation goal for the Glensmen but Antrim went home with their tails between their legs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 09, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
To concede 2-20 in the first half of any match is truly awful. It is no good saying 'A sure waterford are better than us' any team with any pride at all should not be conceding this in a first half. It is very simple to disrupt a game when playing into the wind, withdraw a forward or two crowd your defence commit a few fouls FFS!  All you need to do is break up the game and kill time. I am not saying Antrim could have won this but they could have kept it respectable.
It is due to awful results like this where we do not even put up a fight that southern counties consider us an irrelevant nuisance and organise championships and leagues accordingly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2008, 09:16:36 PM
Totally agree SCB,Waterford are a top team alright but there is no way a Division 1 intercounty team of "elite athletes" should allow another team to rack up 2-20 in one half of hurling. You have to ask what do they do when they are training all week. We dont have the ability of Waterford but surely our much vaunted fitness levels (Waterford had only returned from a team holiday 6 weeks ago) and a bit of aggression can go a long way. We have been "learning" from these hammerings for about 20 years without learning anything, if you get my drift......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 09, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 09, 2008, 09:16:36 PM
Totally agree SCB,Waterford are a top team alright but there is no way a Division 1 intercounty team of "elite athletes" should allow another team to rack up 2-20 in one half of hurling. You have to ask what do they do when they are training all week. We dont have the ability of Waterford but surely our much vaunted fitness levels (Waterford had only returned from a team holiday 6 weeks ago) and a bit of aggression can go a long way. We have been "learning" from these hammerings for about 20 years without learning anything, if you get my drift......

Somebody, please list what Antrim should have learned from these hammerings over the years that actually could help this group of players? If you think you have the answers then why not jump the fence and get involved in management. You may indeed be the key to Antrims success. Yes a 19 point hammering is embarrassing but what do you do? We are where we are. All Antrim can do is try and bounce back. Dignity in the last two games (inside 10 points) would be a positive IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 10, 2008, 09:12:53 AM
I have to say this has been on the cards, there was no new dawn in Antrim hurling because of the Walsh cup win.

I know I sound like a broken record but this is what you tend to get when you are playing with players who are not the best in this county let alone the rest.

S & W have to come out and take responsibility for this defeat, its no good hearing the old we will learn from this clap trap that we have put up for so long. Its time to inject some professionalism to the thing, no way should an inter county team be conceding 2.20 in a half of hurling, its no wonder we came with a few late scores the waterford lads were probably already in the bar when we did so.
Time for a drastic rethink.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 10, 2008, 10:22:20 AM
Again strong words that don't add up to anything tangible.

I agree that many people have been getting ahead of themselves, but don't quite see the need to bitch about the squad that we have. It's not that far away when you consider the people prepared to commit to county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 10, 2008, 10:54:18 AM
Skull i agree with you there is probably nobody else that is a glaring omission, the first 15 are probably the best we have. The issues i have are that we were told at the beginning of last year that we may not be winning All Irelands but we will be competing with the teams down south, well i dont really see that happening and i have a feeling next year if we play Waterford it would be a similar outcome. Sambo & Woody said last year was early in the squads development and we would take a few beatings before we would improve, i dont see any improvement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 10, 2008, 11:21:48 AM
my basic problem with this match and if i've got it wrong i'm sorry. but if we are going down to waterford with a team short of two of our better players (mcmanus, mcgarry) then we weren't goint to win. safe to assume that Waterford are a quality team. in there own back yard they'll be even tougher.

so what tactics do you play? 15 on 15 and give it a lash? or do you bring a extra man into midfield or defence crowd out the areas were Waterford will get there scores be this closing down the space infront of Dan The Man or by cutting out ttyhe supply to the forwards.

if you watched the game on tv yesterday Cork just slowed everything down, i'm sure the wind was blowing a gale so a bit of common sense would be to hold out untill keep the score down keep the confidence going. better to walk away with a 7/8 point loss than a 19 point loss.

we wont beat these teams all the time but to put up a performance is nearly as good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 10, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
Well it's back to managing expectations again and S in particular is IMO the worst offender. E.G. He correctly gave the team all the credits when they won the walsh cup. They then get beat by Dublin and it's because the Dunloy contigent weren't there. Doesn't show great consistency in the message that he is sending out to the players does it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 10, 2008, 11:37:08 AM
Skull

The tangible thing is that we are be fed alot of crap by S mainly that we are good enough to compete and that these youg guys are the way forward, which I dont disagree with but at the same time we are taking a tanking like that. IMO S&W are tactically niave when playing against these southern teams, they do not seem to have the ability to change things when they are going badly wrong.

I am around long enough to know that the Walsh Cup while nice to win was a poor enough excuse for a competition. Add to this the fact that i have never seen such a poor display from any southern team in over 20 years of coming north as we did from wexford that day.

Point being I seriously think it is time for a rethink when the club games get up and running again, I would like to see how the players are performing and if there are players out there with the potential that they be given a shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 10, 2008, 11:52:30 AM
Was there for my sins. Wanted to leave after 10 minutes (when the game finished as a contest) but stuck it out to the end.

Waterford were just a different class. I don't think Antrim won more than 5 dropping balls (either cleanly or from broken play) in the half forward or half back lines at any time during the game.

Whatever about Waterford's dominance under the dropping ball, was particularly disappointed with Antrim's use of the ball when they did get it. The amount of times Antrim got hooked or blocked down was unbelievable. Even when they had time on the ball, a clearance was more often than not mishit, making half or less of the distance it should have. Another feature was the number of clearances that were hit low out of defence enabling a Waterford player 20 yards away to put up his stick and block the ball to himself.

Another particularly irritating feature was Antrim's difficulty in handling the short puc outs they were using. All to often, McGarry would send it short to someone around midfield or half back who would either miss the ball entirely or miscontrol it, gifting away possession.

Who played well?

McGarry made a couple of stunning saves - seemed to be at fault for the second goal but could be wrong as I was at the other end of the field.

Thought Graffin and Delargy did well, but Sean (who is normally very consistent coming on to the breaking ball) missed a couple at the end.

Personally, I though Mickey McC has been poor all year. Saw him at full back against UCD and found him very inconsistent then. Yesterday, his first touch was very poor and he played himself into trouble on several occasions.

Half back line was under serious pressure. Karl McK and Kevin E I am thinking of particularly in clearing ball very badly.

Midfield pretty anonymous - Brick Walsh had the run of the field. Waterford were always looking for the short pass - lost count of the number of times 3 Antrim men surrounding a Waterford player who flicked the ball 10 yards to a man in ocean's of space.

Half forward line saw very little ball. Ken McGrath caught everything and Winker was very quiet. Paddy Richmond played most of the game in midfield/half back.

Cormac Donnelly, while he jumped for everything, had very little in return.

Actually thought the two corners showed reasonably well in all the circumstances. Both Nipper Quinn and Stewart showed a bit of fight and aggression against their opposite numbers.

Yet again Antrim let a team build up an early lead and then fall away. That's why I was reasonably hopeful from the Wexford game - Wexford started brightly and Antrim game back at them. Here, as I said above, the game was over in ten minutes and largely watched in silence as a result.

Don't know where we go from here. Heard Sambo on the radio afterwards. I know that he has to present a certain front, but to me, the wind wasn't a factor at all. I would love to know the conversation on the bus on the long journey home.

At the minute (and in fact traditionally) we don't seem to be able to step it up against the bigger teams. Alright, we'll give them a rattle in Antrim and we'll always have the potential to catch a second tier team, but the Corks/Kilkennys/Waterfords are still in a different league.

Depressing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 10, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
Think youre being a bit harsh on the players there NAG. They are the ones who have committed and most would agree that of the players who would be prepared to commit, the panel is not far away from our best.

Can't disagree with any of your other comments though. Particularly the one where club match performances are used improve the standards in our game and that players (who maybe can't commit to the month and month travelling commitments of county training) but who show the right levels of application and fitness in club matches can be invited onto the panel and commit to 2-3 months. Why oh why more emphasis is not placed on this I do not know. County players in Antrim cannot detach themselves from their clubs in the way that they appear to do down south. Our playing population doesn't make it workable. Everybody loses. Club hurling in Antrim should be the focus for 5 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jack_Black on March 10, 2008, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 10, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
Think youre being a bit harsh on the players there NAG. They are the ones who have committed and most would agree that of the players who would be prepared to commit, the panel is not far away from our best.

Can't disagree with any of your other comments though. Particularly the one where club match performances are used improve the standards in our game and that players (who maybe can't commit to the month and month travelling commitments of county training) but who show the right levels of application and fitness in club matches can be invited onto the panel and commit to 2-3 months. Why oh why more emphasis is not placed on this I do not know. County players in Antrim cannot detach themselves from their clubs in the way that they appear to do down south. Our playing population doesn't make it workable. Everybody loses. Club hurling in Antrim should be the focus for 5 years.

cant agree more with this last statement skull. i have been saying this for a number of years. to many people are slagging the present county players. they are simply the best we have at the minute. i dont understand why people think all of a sudden we are going to be contenders or even compete with the big guys cause we are doing alot of strength training.

i believe its quite simply, we have to concentrate on our club leagues, raise the levels of all the teams and all players. we need clubs to catch a grip and raise there levels wether they are in division 1 or 2. teams have half decent results in a non-competitive league and think they are improving. we need a competitive league and championship involving more then 3 teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 10, 2008, 12:13:57 PM
Guys

Im not meaning to be harsh on the players believe me, I am fed up of being fed bulshit by S&W when we clearly arent good enough at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 10, 2008, 02:03:30 PM
look, all well and good talking about getting our leagues in order, competitive championships and all that but when will clubs in this county stop looking after themselves and worrying about being relegated?

the problem in belfast is that there is too many clubs, nobody wants to see another local club do well. i believe if belfast had 6 hurling clubs only we could compete with the north antrim clubs. but while clubs don't want to lose their identity (which is grand) then we wont have competitive leagues.

if belfast had solely hurling clubs they would be competing in more club finals. more time spent training playing hurling instead of football would make a big difference.

teddy mccarthy played hurling for Sarsfields, intermed. football for his local club and senior football for another. could you imagine Antrim allowing players to play for three different clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 11, 2008, 11:03:30 PM
Antrim hurling has taken a dive instead off going on the up .The county board is a shambles. U tell me were in any other sport in the thee world would change it's leauge format a few mounths before it started . We have all herd the same old same old rubbish coming out about this is the way forward but in my Angel Eye's they r in for a nasty shock .The county team is a prime excample .How many country boys r in that team compare to the city boys.They say the way forward is through club level & then that will devlop onto the county stage , but tell were the city teams will get the advantage from that when there is only 1 city team in dv 1 and the other 7 teams r from the county . Im woundering is the antrim county board chairman team there?
Lads there cum's a time when everybody should stand up to this as a group of club's that have been shaffed in the way we were .
If the county had have came out and said this is their plans for the start of the following season then every body would be in the same boat but they did not have brain's or the julies to do this .In my eye's they made a snap decison on this most important issue  :o But then i say our club's have had a hand in this by apointing the delagates to their post's . Has anybody heard what the the county manager's(chuckle brothers) got to say on this .Very quiet aren't they .Sure their repected clubs have no worries they r in dv1 .What about they lamb derg and thee st gall's and court & rossa  county players going to do when they r playing dv 2 . Is the county improvement plan working there .Don't think .Let's hang them out to dry lad's ,NEW BOARD , NEW START ,They seem to be behind the time's boy's out out out out out out out , and don't say oh they won the welsh cup . that was when most if not all them boys were playing dv1 week in week out & well done fellas on that great run off form and winning the comp but let's see how they do this year in thee hurling seeing  that 75 % off the team playing in a higher standard & the other 25 % in THEE lower DIV.
A very worried hurler  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 12, 2008, 09:11:11 AM
Rasmatazz.  crawl back under what ever stone you just appeared from.  I have never heard such drivel.  i don;t even know where to start in rubbishing all that you have said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 12, 2008, 09:23:40 AM
I was thinkin the same, the lad should go back to hoganstand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
He should go back to school.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2008, 09:41:42 AM
Terrible first post and will win you no friends here

Whilst I agree that a years notice should be given to any proposed and agreed league changes, you show with the rest of your rant that you are not prepared to admit that ultimately, it is the poor standard of hurling in Belfast which is the real problem here. The only way to prove people wrong is on the pitch and I'm afraid a lot of the city clubs do not appear to be putting the right amount of effort into the game. Look a wee bit closer to home first next time before you start blaming the CB for all your woes.

Would you like to or are you even able to comment in a balanced way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 12, 2008, 04:40:20 PM
Tochy boys arent u.
U would never get away in any sport prof or amt games in the world , think about it lads . The soccer cull is happening. Kid's now days wanna play at the top & and when u think of how many school kid's in belfast wanna playing hurling at the top level coming through well they r just not going to get if maybe they go to 1 or 2 teams that might break it through to dv1 hurling in the next 2 to 3 years . Lad's i can see a split very soon were u might find a country league format and a more inner city league  format , maybe this is county hidden agenda 8)

Oh and get real if u lot r going to get on like that when someone post's . One thing in life is free & that is manners's , don't cost u nothing but then some of u guys sound quiet tight . :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 12, 2008, 05:29:44 PM
So Jack Sack u say then belfast teams have no chance of improving or is it by doing these changes we will improve our smaller north antrim teams that r in that top eight dv 1 level . I can asure u that some teams r not good engouh to be there . The county change the format . some of the fixtures wern't even played out last year . Im sure if the full fixture list was played .every game that leauge
would look more of an even balance .
listen if u r there good luck till ya ,but lads that championship this year will have a bit more off a bite , that could be the one and only good thing comes out of it , come on the red & white hoops  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on March 12, 2008, 04:40:20 PM
Tochy boys arent u.
U would never get away in any sport prof or amt games in the world , think about it lads . The soccer cull is happening. Kid's now days wanna play at the top & and when u think of how many school kid's in belfast wanna playing hurling at the top level coming through well they r just not going to get if maybe they go to 1 or 2 teams that might break it through to dv1 hurling in the next 2 to 3 years . Lad's i can see a split very soon were u might find a country league format and a more inner city league  format , maybe this is county hidden agenda 8)

Oh and get real if u lot r going to get on like that when someone post's . One thing in life is free & that is manners's , don't cost u nothing but then some of u guys sound quiet tight . :-*

:) youngsters

Hurling at the right standard will set you free young raz. Stick it to the County Board, the culchies, the PSNI, global warming or who ever else you want to blame for things and hurl your way back into Div 1. I really wish to f*£k the Belfast sides would step up to the plate a bit more on the hurling front. More needs to be done in the big smoke to bring players from U16 through to senior. It's unreal the number of excellent youngsters lost to the game up there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 12, 2008, 07:10:59 PM
Thought for a monment u were Father Jack there  :-X
I Know in away of what u r talking about ,but i feel this county board is not strong enough,to take hurling on to the next level .They can't even sort the leauge out .They say they want to improve but what r they doing at the school level ,football is all the way here ,if u look at the t.v coverage of the school football , u never see that in the hurling , very rarely do u see bbc newsline or utv showing any of this and the county has to stand up advertise this right through school level .The kids r there every day when they probley play 1 match a week sometimes 2 weeks a hurling game ,at least if there was a push through the school level mabye keeping them interested the club will pick the rest up from there but the county needs to be  more involved & they aren't. So if u want smoke from the big city they should light up  8)& burn them paper's they wrote that leauge format on  8)
Keep cool Skull
The Rass (super red & white hoops :-*)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
"but i feel this county board is not strong enough,to take hurling on to the next level .They can't even sort the leauge out .They say they want to improve but what r they doing at the school level ,football is all the way here"

Raz you clearly have no understanding of how the GAA is organized and are simply assuming through you own ignorance that the CB is the one blame. Just so you know the leagues are voted on by the clubs and neither the clubs or the CB have any control over school competitions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 1912 on March 12, 2008, 10:15:48 PM
Having read the comments about Antrim v Waterford Maybe the GAA should relegate them to NHL 2 as like most of the belfast teams they're not Div 1 standard. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2008, 08:54:02 AM
It is very rarely that i venture to the official Antrim site but i see the adiministrators tore someone a new "a-hole" for simply stating that the hurling team had not, in his opinion, made as much progress as some believe. I take it this is the norm? Thye made refernce to other sites that post "libellous garbage" and have nothing to offer, i think this is the big bad Gaa Board they are referring to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 13, 2008, 09:12:18 AM
MInder

The county do not want to face up the the truth that the progress that was promised under sambo and woody is not going to materialise. I put this out there, the progress that was made under dinny cahill in his first two years in charge was greater than anything the current management will come up with. If truth be told actually they are still living off the back of the improvements that dinny made in some of our senior players. BTW I am no dinny fan either.

Rass, I have never heard so much balls in all my life. The city teams get out of senior hurling exactly what they put into it. The most senior club in belfast in hurling in the recent past have been treating their away matches like a day out carry out included. This attitude has prevailed for too long and it is not the CB's fault or the north antrim teams for progressing and leaving you all behind. If you are frustrated take it up with 'The super red and white hoops' and get some structure and get up and go in your hurling club.

Otherwise pull your head out of your ass and another thing your not tying a message on a mobile phone on here, so try and clean up the posts a bit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 09:51:19 AM
Ok lets not start going over old ground here regarding the div 1 set up. What's been done is done and I'm sure next year the format will change again such is the way the tings have been set up.

Speaking to some lads at training last night I was trying to push the idea of having hurling only clubs in Belfast. Now this may sound a bit off the wall but is currently used in other counties. I would propose that Belfast set up 5/6 senior hurling only teams, were they compete in championship alone, there are players within smaller clubs who could join the Hurling only clubs and play at the highest level. These hurling only teams could compete with the north Antrim clubs,
lets say for instance, you'd 5 players from St Johns and 5 from Rossa and 5 from St Galls, playing for a Falls Select team, or you had 3 from Gorts and 4 from Lamhs, 2 from St Treseas  and so on and ya catch my drift.

No players in Belfast don't want to lose their identity so to facilitate this they can play for their own clubs in the league and championship but at intermediate level. Is this to far fetch? Have I had too much coffee lately? I don't know, a radical shake up would be needed to fix this. Having 6 competitive Belfast teams against the North Antrim teams would certainly raise the bar.

What ya all think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 13, 2008, 10:33:39 AM
"I put this out there, the progress that was made under dinny cahill in his first two years in charge was greater than anything the current management will come up with."

should be

I put this out there, the progress that was made under dinny cahill in his first two years in charge was greater than anything the current management will come up with, but was in reality unsustainable due to the lack of competitive club matches during his tenure

Dinny along with all the other county managers who hoarded players for years have IMO had the biggest impact on the standards of the game here. This goes back to Jim Nelsons day. Yes I can see the motivations, but the fallout is there for all to see. Half hearted league matches for years on end then a spurt of intensity in the last month of the year.


Looked at your proposal milltown and I'm not so sure. Think youre throwing in the towel a bit if you ask me and in terms of strengthing the game, I think it would be counter productive. It might be worth canvassing the intermediatte clubs, to gauge their opinions on amalgamating for the senior championship, but if you're div 1 standard (and I think if st gall focus a bit more on the hurling they would be), you should be going as a club for the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 13, 2008, 10:38:19 AM
Skull

I agree with you and thats why I wasnt a great dinny fan but I was merely replying to minders post and giving he a reason as to why the Antrim Website and CB are touchy when it comes to sambo and woody.

Milltown

I like your thinking of improving the hurling in Belfast, but i see a few problems with your proposal.
Do the hurling clubs in St Gall et al fold to allow these select teams to play, because if st gall still have a hurling club their dual players would inelligible to play for the select as their won club has a hurling team.

I think it just needs a serious committment form the clubs to training and development of talent. Skull will be able to tell you how hard Dunloy trained this year and they have championships coming out their ears, so why do the clubs in belfast not follow suit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 13, 2008, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: NAG on March 13, 2008, 10:38:19 AM
Skull

I agree with you and thats why I wasnt a great dinny fan but I was merely replying to minders post and giving he a reason as to why the Antrim Website and CB are touchy when it comes to sambo and woody.


Just need to be careful NAG that people accept you're statement without taking other aspects into considerations. Personally I thought last year was the best year for hurling (I would say that) in Antrim for 20 years and Sambo and Woody deserve great credit for recognizing that for the long term benefit of the game club matches needed to played with full panels available. This instant sniping about things not having improved at County level only puts pressure on them to maybe revert back to the bad old ways of those before them and then the club game will be plunged in the mire again. Thats why I feel we need to be guarded with our comments about the county teams progression. Slow and steady over a 5 year period will do me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2008, 10:51:31 AM
With regard to the way the leagues are now structured I personally believe that it will make some clubs(from Belfast) take a look at themselves (particularly Rossa) and that will be a good thing for those clubs. I don't believe, like Skull, that anything radical needs to be done as per Milltown's suggestion for Belfast clubs but mainly they need to start putting in a lot more effort.

I believe that Rossa can be strong when they make a real push for it and they will now have the motivation to do just that. I'd expect them to get out of division 2. I believe St Galls can improve too - with the work being put in - but they do have problems with the dual thing.

I also hope that the good young teams St Johns have coming through improve their standard but time will tell.

I guess part of the problem is that Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall people are effectively born with a hurl in their hand and their community revolves around hurling. In Belfast that is entirely different. However look at what St Johns have done in the feile etc - they put the work in and proved it can be done. Just remember the beginning of Dunloy's "revolution" revolved around a successful feile team so you never know what's round the corner there.

With regard to S&W NAG I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting. We are definitely making progress but can you really expect us in the space of a year to suddenly be competing with teams including big Dan, Ken McGrath etc etc. We have a long way to go. What do you expect them to do - say we'll take some hammerings while we learn? (although I'm not sure they would have learnt much from last Sunday)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 11:11:38 AM
in Cork for instance and in Kerry this happens, you can play for your local team you can play for the local hurling team as well. then you can play championship for one of the local senior teams then you can play for the divisional board teams. all very confusing but hey they manage to do all right

just takes some hurling minded people to set aside club differences and this can work. having only ever seen Rossa win from belfast, to young to remember St Johns. i cant see another belfast club ever winning. but i could see belfast teams win if they were joined by players from other clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 13, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 11:11:38 AM
in Cork for instance and in Kerry this happens, you can play for your local team you can play for the local hurling team as well. then you can play championship for one of the local senior teams then you can play for the divisional board teams. all very confusing but hey they manage to do all right

just takes some hurling minded people to set aside club differences and this can work. having only ever seen Rossa win from belfast, to young to remember St Johns. i cant see another belfast club ever winning. but i could see belfast teams win if they were joined by players from other clubs

Would need to understand the rules as they are in these counties (e.g how many players per club???)

Looks like you have thrown the towel in milltown when you are recommending that even the senior clubs in belfast should be looking to do this. Without thinking too much about it I could see the benefit for instance of south antrim and north antrim intermediate selects (maybe even south west as well) joining in the senior championship. It would be a great boost for committed players playing for intermediatte clubs and would I feel improve the 2nd tier no end, but what you are suggesting is robbing peter to pay paul


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown raver on March 13, 2008, 11:33:09 AM
Dont think it was the coffee milltown rower, think you've either forgot your medication or have been smoking something, with them suggestions.  
Some of us, UNLIKE YOURSELF, have played for the same club all our lives, and would rather lose with our own clubs  than win with others.

The issue in hurling is quite simple, you get out of it what you put in!! I have no doubt that talent wise, Rossa, St.Galls and St.Johns are up there with the country teams, but do they put in as much effort and show as much committment, my a**e they do. I stil think the league changes were wrong and will not help these teams, but they have to help themselves 1st and foremost by putting the effort in.
I'll tell you about St.Galls, the dual thing is a problem, but it was when they were under 21 and competed in 4/5 U21H finals in a row, while still winning 6 football in a row, this was due to co operation in the club and everyone buying into it, I think St.Galls are now happy with having a go every year rather than setting serious targets of winning something, Cruise control.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 11:45:16 AM
thanks for your imput raver, unlike yourself i've manged to stay in ireland and played for the one club ;D and you also talk about committment, are you having a laugh. if you can mange to stay out of the bars we'd do alright
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown raver on March 13, 2008, 11:47:41 AM
Milltown rower if i thought giving my job up as the club barman would help, I'd be more than willing  ;), 
Maybe if i started a new club, Belfast Elite GAC, that would help the current predicament that Belfast hurling now finds itself in.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 13, 2008, 12:49:12 PM
I think alot of the problem in the Belfast clubs is when players get to the age of 17 onwards when offer attractions catch their eye. At underage I have seem some cracking teams in Belfast that seem to lose interest when they reach their teens. Look at the Rossa minor teams of the late 90's..some cracking players but how many of them players are still playing..very few. There has to sustained effort put in at underage..not just cos you have a strong team, you have to work year in year out which is where the stronger North Antrim teams .If out of every minor team you get 2 or 3 to become good senior hurlers then it is job done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2008, 03:48:25 PM
Antrim 15/2 v Cork 1/14 Odds by Eastwoods
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 04:00:42 PM
that says it all whats the handicap odds for that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2008, 04:36:23 PM
will we get within 8 points? will be a tough one to call.

are cork going with the same team? or will some of the bigger stars coming back for this one?

cant believe i'm going to say this but bring the match to Ballycastle think it's the only place where the Cork team cant fly to.

nah only joking Casement should get a good crowd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 13, 2008, 04:54:53 PM
Every Antrim supporter should be told at the gate on the way in to "FFS make a bit of noise when you're in there"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2008, 04:59:07 PM
I would have been a bit more confident of beating the handicap if we were playing them last week,but the dublin match will have brought cork on a heap as i fear we will find out on sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 13, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
Boy all this passionate feeling towards these last 2 days of chat was seen by u guys on the pitch would be a good start . Doe's not take much for this web site to get rocking  :-*
stay cool boy's, away to take the micky out of the scouser's 8) for now stay cool  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on March 13, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
Boy all this passionate feeling towards these last 2 days of chat was seen by u guys on the pitch would be a good start . Doe's not take much for this web site to get rocking  :-*
stay cool boy's, away to take the micky out of the scouser's 8) for now stay cool  ;D


Did your mother have any children that lived?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 14, 2008, 08:38:09 AM
Skull, standing in Dunloy watching Antrim play Wexford in silence the last time, anything would be an improvement on that.

at clones for the semi, now there was some atmosphere at that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 14, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
Milltown

I think it was shocked silence at the standard of the game.

I agree it is every saffrons duty to get to casement and make a bit of noise on sunday.

I hate to say it but hardstations 8 point bet looks like a good one.

Actually think that corks lay off will do them good in the next few months, means they could be tip top shape come championship time. Everyone knows how tough a nut dublin are to crack in parnell so was a big result for them last weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: NAG on March 14, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
Milltown

I think it was shocked silence at the standard of the game.

I agree it is every saffrons duty to get to casement and make a bit of noise on sunday.

I hate to say it but hardstations 8 point bet looks like a good one.

Actually think that corks lay off will do them good in the next few months, means they could be tip top shape come championship time. Everyone knows how tough a nut dublin are to crack in parnell so was a big result for them last weekend.

Aye NAG will do Cork no harm, those fellas look after themselves all year round and a lay off will probably help them come the summer time, even though they were still training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 14, 2008, 11:10:43 AM
It would be very easy for the County Board to take the initiative and put some stratagies in place to try and encourage people out of their silence. Games are much more enjoyable to watch when theres an atmosphere not to mention the benefit to the players. Everybody (including the kids who we want them to want to play the game) enjoys the buzz. I really wish the would do some PR on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 14, 2008, 11:11:59 AM
Cork team:

M. Coleman

S.O Neill
D.O Sullivan
S. Murphy

E. Cadogen
J. Gardiner
C. McGann

K. Hartnett
T. Kenny

T. McCarthy
B. Corry
K. Murphy, ERINS OWN

L. Desmond
K. Canty
P. Cronin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
The terms "Antrim County Board" and "initiative" are mutually exclusive......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 14, 2008, 12:06:25 PM
N. Ronan scored 2-4 or close to it last week and isnt playing?

As Gerald said last week they must be giving the panel a run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2008, 12:17:23 PM
Everyone should make a point of going to a County comittee meeting and I think you would find that the biggest problem is the club delegates we allow to represent our clubs. I reckon the executive commitee do all right considering, but until intelligent, clear thinkers are in the majority on the floor we will make little progress. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 14, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 14, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
The terms "Antrim County Board" and "initiative" are mutually exclusive......

a bit unfair there Minder.   perhaps so in the past but the current county board have shown plenty of initiative. examples being- excellent website and e-sport results system, published fixtures, fundraising draws and races days, purchase of lands for centre of excellence, annual yearbook (prizewinning), calendar etc.

its all too easy to cristicise from a distance

Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2008, 11:10:43 AM
It would be very easy for the County Board to take the initiative and put some stratagies in place to try and encourage people out of their silence. Games are much more enjoyable to watch when theres an atmosphere not to mention the benefit to the players. Everybody (including the kids who we want them to want to play the game) enjoys the buzz. I really wish the would do some PR on this.

fair point on atmosphere.  any suggestions skull?  you can be sure a few members of the county board keep a close on the discussion pages



Quote from: Last Man on March 14, 2008, 12:17:23 PM
Everyone should make a point of going to a County comittee meeting and I think you would find that the biggest problem is the club delegates we allow to represent our clubs. I reckon the executive commitee do all right considering, but until intelligent, clear thinkers are in the majority on the floor we will make little progress. :(

never a truer word.  attend some of these meetings and you will get a real insight into antrim GAA matters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 14, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: podge on March 14, 2008, 01:51:41 PM

fair point on atmosphere.  any suggestions skull?  you can be sure a few members of the county board keep a close on the discussion pages


Use the local media to discuss the lack of atmosphere at County matches and the importance of trying to generate one for the benefit of the team. Encourage all supporters coming to the game to come out of their shells.

Back this up with a poster campaign around GAA areas
Plenty of notice going into the ground to get behind the team


shouldn't be a difficult task
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 14, 2008, 04:49:37 PM
Antrim Hurling Panel v Cork 16.03.08


1.Ryan McGarry McQuillans
2.Arron Graffin Ruairi Og's
3.Neil McGarry Loughiel Shamrocks
4.Sean Delargy Ruairi Og's
5.Ciaran Herron Lamh Dhearg
6.Johnny Campbell Loughiel Shamrocks
7.Michael McCambridge Ruairi Og's
8.Karl McKeegan Ruairi Og's
9.Simon McCrory St John's
10.Paddy McGill Ruairi Og's
11.Cormac Donnelly McQuillan's
12.Karl Stewart St Gall's
13.Paddy Richmond Cuchullians
14.Liam Watson Loughiel Shamrocks
15.Brendan Quinn Gort naMona
16.Ronan Kearney Ruairi Og's
17.Michael Kettle Rossa
18.Kevin Elliott Ruairi Og's
19.Eddie McCloskey Loughiel Shamrocks
20.Donal McNaughton Ruairi Og's
21.Shane McNaughton Ruairi Og's
22.Colm Duffin   Tir na nOg
23.Michael Magill Tir na nOg
24.Darren Hamill Shane O'Neill's
25.Kevin McGourty St Gall's
26.Cathal McAuley Carey Faughs
27.Philip Maguire St Teresa's
28. P.J. O'Connell Clooney Gaels
29.Paul Shiels Cuchullains
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 14, 2008, 04:57:21 PM
has Barry Mc Faul lefted the panel?

hippy out to centre forward and winker in on the square. think this might bring hippy more into the game but at the same time take our best forward out of it a bit. i hope not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 14, 2008, 05:05:38 PM
how could I forget it  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 14, 2008, 05:26:36 PM
Donnelly seems to be one they're persisting with. I hope he works out but there's a lot of people who'd have been dropped a long time ago were they playing like him...(Don't want to be harsh on the fella as he's young and being played out of position)

Bringing Karl out of CHB is not a good thing IMO. He may not always stick tight to his man but he has authority in that position and holds the position itself well. I think Johnny Campbell has a place on the team but not there.

Magill bad hamstring as far as I'm aware so won't be available.

What's the story with Shane McNaughton? He seems to be well out of the picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 14, 2008, 07:07:29 PM
shane has been injured on and off when he seems to be training with the county, came on as a sub last week and done not too bad considering. would imagine he will make another sub appearance this weekend, along with paul shiels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 08:57:37 PM
Midfield could get messy whoever is playing there if Tom Kenny gets running at us. Karl or Mc Crory wont have the legs for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 15, 2008, 07:21:04 AM
You get a better atmosphere at an u14 match in Falls park than you do at Casement.

Is anything being done to encourage primary school kids attendance at Casement? We should be offering a free bag of crisps and a bottle of lemonade to every primary school kid accompanied by an adult. It would cost very little and make the kids feel welcome. Hopefully it gets the kids into the habit of attending matches at young age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 15, 2008, 10:19:08 AM
If anyone on the Antrim team would have the legs for Tom Kenny it would be Simon but being good enough to mark him is a completely differant story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 15, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on March 15, 2008, 07:21:04 AM
You get a better atmosphere at an u14 match in Falls park than you do at Casement.

Is anything being done to encourage primary school kids attendance at Casement? We should be offering a free bag of crisps and a bottle of lemonade to every primary school kid accompanied by an adult. It would cost very little and make the kids feel welcome. Hopefully it gets the kids into the habit of attending matches at young age.

i see from the guestbook on the official antrim website that passes have been handed out at some of the primary schools to encourage kids to come along.  they would get in free anyway but the pass acts a reminder.  not a bad idea.  ultimately of course its up to the parents to take them along and the price of a bag of crisps is hardly going to be the decisive factor in that :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 15, 2008, 01:22:22 PM
Quote from: podge on March 15, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on March 15, 2008, 07:21:04 AM
You get a better atmosphere at an u14 match in Falls park than you do at Casement.

Is anything being done to encourage primary school kids attendance at Casement? We should be offering a free bag of crisps and a bottle of lemonade to every primary school kid accompanied by an adult. It would cost very little and make the kids feel welcome. Hopefully it gets the kids into the habit of attending matches at young age.

i see from the guestbook on the official antrim website that passes have been handed out at some of the primary schools to encourage kids to come along.  they would get in free anyway but the pass acts a reminder.  not a bad idea.  ultimately of course its up to the parents to take them along and the price of a bag of crisps is hardly going to be the decisive factor in that :-\

Suggested this for the start of last years NHL...better late than never. But why is it only some primary schools?? Surely you go for all of them or none at all??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 11:56:03 AM
Say something on hoganstand that todays game may be moved to ballycastle depending on the state of the basement pitch after the football match last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Our-ball-ref on March 16, 2008, 12:38:33 PM
Any more word on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 01:09:50 PM
Was talking to a fella this morning (and negotiating free entry) who wears a luminous bib and has a walkie talkie in Casement on match days and he said it is still in Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 16, 2008, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2008, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on March 13, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
Boy all this passionate feeling towards these last 2 days of chat was seen by u guys on the pitch would be a good start . Doe's not take much for this web site to get rocking  :-*
stay cool boy's, away to take the micky out of the scouser's 8) for now stay cool  ;D


Did your mother have any children that lived?
Yea minder im sure u know me :-X
Im very close to u  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 16, 2008, 04:06:21 PM
Another heavy loss, 17 points.

God knows how much Kilkenny will beat them by. They'll do well to keep it within 30 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 04:09:37 PM
Antrim 1-7 Cork 1-24 it could have been worse, Cork were playing with us. Men against boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Our-ball-ref on March 16, 2008, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2008, 04:09:37 PM
Antrim 1-7 Cork 1-24 it could have been worse, Cork were playing with us. Men against boys
Pretty much correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
wexford - dublin drew.

could be a play off on the cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 06:01:28 PM
I take it thats us down then if they drew?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Our-ball-ref on March 16, 2008, 06:05:36 PM
Yip.
Currently stand as:
                Pts
Dublin        3
Wexford    3
Antrim       2

And I can't see us picking up points against Kilkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 06:09:08 PM
It will be very messy next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2008, 09:00:54 PM
A few things about todays match. We were totally obliterated in the physical exchanges, i dont think we came out favourably in any 50/50 challenges whereas the Cork players were walking through our tackles. One piece of action near the end summed it up, a Cork defender was going for a ball in the corner and was holding Karl Stewart at bay with one hand with some ease. Cormac Donnelly looked like the only player that had the physique to cope with the Cork players but he wasnt in the game at all. In the second half i dont think we won a ball in the half forwards & midfield. Granted it was difficult for the Antrim backs but they were behind their men so many times when the ball was played in, Mc Garry in full back seemed especially guilty of this. All in all it was pretty depressing stuff and scoring 0-2 in 35 minutes of hurling says it all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 17, 2008, 11:17:29 AM
We showed them far too much respect right from the throw in. We were standing back poking at the ball rather than getting in among them and pulling. The half time score was flattering.  In the second half they played with us like a kitten with a mouse. The annoying thing is that our lads didn't get annoyed by this!  >:(

I fear for next weekend in Kilkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 17, 2008, 09:50:17 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 18, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Hate to say it but S&W are getting their just desserts.

They are tactically niave and they are picking the wrong teams.

Young donnelly from ballycastle not singling him out but playing him a centre forward when he has no pace?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 18, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
They're obviously using him as the big target man up front in the mould of Jackie Carson. Only with more pace...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 18, 2008, 01:29:31 PM
Aye noticed that too, hippy is a great hurler but he's a natural half back. he should be played there to learn his trade, fair do hes bit slow but there not many better in antrim under a puck out. But its a sad state of affairs when a half back is being made to play in centre forward. What does it say about the county! I mind the minors of a few years ago there was a cracking forward, he was country boy, cant mind his name, He played in full forward lovely touch. what happened to him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
how are the clubs going pre season? what challenge games have yas played?

we played Ballygalget on Sunday, good game considering both teams missing players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 19, 2008, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
how are the clubs going pre season? what challenge games have yas played?

we played Ballygalget on Sunday, good game considering both teams missing players.

Early season stuff on sunday milltown and I'd say youse are further on in terms of both stickwork and fitness, but a good lung opener for us all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 01:51:33 PM
we been training wed. nights and sundays, our first three games should sort out/decide if we will get promoted.

first game against Rossa at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 19, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
how are the clubs going pre season? what challenge games have yas played?

we played Ballygalget on Sunday, good game considering both teams missing players.

Forgot to say that the Johnnies and Loughgeile were both down at a tournament in Portaferry a few weeks back and took the opportunity to puck the heads of each other for 5 minutes, a bit of bad blood there!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 03:46:20 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 19, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 19, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
how are the clubs going pre season? what challenge games have yas played?

we played Ballygalget on Sunday, good game considering both teams missing players.

Forgot to say that the Johnnies and Loughgeile were both down at a tournament in Portaferry a few weeks back and took the opportunity to puck the heads of each other for 5 minutes, a bit of bad blood there!!

Aye i heard about that, the Loughguile manager said the Johnnies were dirty f*ckers but i suppose there is two sides to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 19, 2008, 03:48:00 PM

[/quote]

Aye i heard about that, the Loughguile manager said the Johnnies were dirty f*ckers but i suppose there is two sides to it
[/quote]

Pot calling the kettle black or what! Did the ref sent any boys off or report it ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 19, 2008, 04:35:35 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 19, 2008, 03:48:00 PM


Aye i heard about that, the Loughguile manager said the Johnnies were dirty f*ckers but i suppose there is two sides to it
[/quote]

Pot calling the kettle black or what! Did the ref sent any boys off or report it ?
[/quote]

It was a friendly, so after they all tired themselves out the hurling resumed on a 15 aside basis. Don't know if there was a proper ref there or not but I wouldn't expect any offical action.


I remember we used to hold a tournament in the summer and one of the games involved the Sars and Johnnies not long after the whole Sars and money going missing back in the late 80's. I think a lot of lads must of transferred to the Johhnies after that and christ all hell broke out that night, first time I ever saw hurls used in a ruck, frightening stuff. No ref's report that night either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 19, 2008, 04:36:53 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 19, 2008, 03:48:00 PM


Aye i heard about that, the Loughguile manager said the Johnnies were dirty f*ckers but i suppose there is two sides to it
[/quote]

Pot calling the kettle black or what! Did the ref sent any boys off or report it ?
[/quote]

Surely you are not referring to the saintly Hooker there??? :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2008, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 19, 2008, 04:36:53 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 19, 2008, 03:48:00 PM


Aye i heard about that, the Loughguile manager said the Johnnies were dirty f*ckers but i suppose there is two sides to it

Pot calling the kettle black or what! Did the ref sent any boys off or report it ?
[/quote]

Surely you are not referring to the saintly Hooker there??? :D
[/quote] That exactly who i am referring to !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 19, 2008, 05:05:39 PM
hes back!!!!!!!!!!! rocky!!!  rocky!!!  rocky!!!  rocky!!!  rocky!!!  rocky!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2008, 10:17:39 PM
Nipper Quinn and Mc Crory dropped for O Connell & Donal Mc Naughton.



20 March 2008
Antrim hurling team to play Kilkenny this Sunday:

Ryan Mc Garry Mc Quillans Ballycastle
Arron Graffin Ruairi og Cushendall
Neil Mc Garry Loughiel Shamrocks
Sean Delargy Ruairi og Cushendall
Ciaran Herron Lamh Dhearg Hannahstown
Johnny Campbell Loughiel Shamrocks
Michael Mc Cambridge Ruairi og Cushendall
PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels
Karl Mc Keegan Ruairi og Cushendall
Paddy Mc Gill Ruairi og Cushendall
Donal Mc Naughton Ruairi og Cushendall
Liam Watson Loughiel Shamrocks
Karl Stewart St Gall's Belfast
Cormac Donnelly Mc Quillans Ballycastle
Paddy Richmond Cuchullains Dunloy


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 21, 2008, 09:52:17 AM
This is one where the lads have to go out with their heads held high and hurl to the best of their ability. Ignore the score board completely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2008, 09:58:09 AM
Can't for the life of me understand why S&W have not been trying to use their panel a bit more in these last few games. If they're there then they be giving them all a rattle. It's not as if anyone expected us to win these games with our strongest team, so why not give as many a go as possible and encourage them to focus on performance rather than scoreline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2008, 11:16:20 AM
PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels, i'm confused, couple of other players on the team that should try the bench for a change, Cormac Donnelly Mc Quillans Ballycastle, being one of them, and as good as a hurler he is but Michael Mc Cambridge has been woeful, but thats just my opinion and for ten pounds in to watch them home and away i can say that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2008, 11:16:20 AM
PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels, i'm confused, couple of other players on the team that should try the bench for a change, Cormac Donnelly Mc Quillans Ballycastle, being one of them, and as good as a hurler he is but Michael Mc Cambridge has been woeful, but thats just my opinion and for ten pounds in to watch them home and away i can say that

Aye agree Milltown, Mickey Mc Cambridge has went badly backwards the last year or two, he was one of the best backs in Antrim for a few years. I dont think Paddy Magill has justified his place either, i just dont think he is physically suited to inter county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2008, 11:52:35 AM
thought Paddy scored a fine point on Sunday best score of the match from both teams, so i'd stick with him for a bit. good to see Donal McNaughton played well in Dublin when introduced. anybody going down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 21, 2008, 11:52:35 AM
thought Paddy scored a fine point on Sunday best score of the match from both teams, so i'd stick with him for a bit. good to see Donal McNaughton played well in Dublin when introduced. anybody going down?

It was a good point alright but im not sure it is enough to persevere with, he is too easily kept out of the game by a more physical player and is unable to impose himself on the game. In fairness he isnt alone. They would also be advised to play more directly, the amount of times our players were carrying the ball and coughing it up when they met a hard challenge from a Cork player was unreal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 21, 2008, 12:11:44 PM
Paddy plays the majority of his club hurling at midfield & for a stage last year he was superb & his style is more suited to playing there. I'd have him on the team, Minder it's your opinion that he shouldnt be on...no harm as its your opinion.......it's back to the same old question who else is there??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 21, 2008, 12:26:12 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 21, 2008, 12:12:18 PM
Cant believe some of the boys have kept there places here. Sean Delargy and Neilly McGarry for love nor money are not county standard players! Mickey McCambridge would be lucky to make the Cloghmills Junior B team, Herron and McKeegan have lost their form, O Connell not a county player, McNaughton one sided, Magill piss poor, Watson worst player on the feild against cork, Hippy too slow and has done nothing to impress me this campaign!


I think this could be antrims worst beating of all time on sunday!

Im a proud antrim man but I seriously fear that sunday could destroy the year!

Constructive

This weekend is a trip i am sure S&W and the players wish was over, it can only go one way, the past 2 harsh beating, low confidence against a team on top of their game, and a team with revenge on their minds.

would love to see the Saffrons put in a display but its stacked against them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2008, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 21, 2008, 12:12:18 PM
Cant believe some of the boys have kept there places here. Sean Delargy and Neilly McGarry for love nor money are not county standard players! Mickey McCambridge would be lucky to make the Cloghmills Junior B team, Herron and McKeegan have lost their form, O Connell not a county player, McNaughton one sided, Magill piss poor, Watson worst player on the feild against cork, Hippy too slow and has done nothing to impress me this campaign!


I think this could be antrims worst beating of all time on sunday!

Im a proud antrim man but I seriously fear that sunday could destroy the year!

Let's hear your 15 then goundie. If all those boys should have lost their place because of their performances, then name their replacements.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 21, 2008, 01:07:46 PM
Jack I've been at the games and in my not rose tinted glasses Karl Stewart has been one of the better players. In Dublin he had a poor game but for the life of me could not understand how he took him off on Sunday.

as for continually staying with Liam Watson on the frees it's totally beyond me. normally Winker does not miss but for the county he has been well below par this season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on March 21, 2008, 03:07:05 PM
Lads i hate to say it but little cracks are starting to show,on the pitch and by the sound of u guys it could be apple crumble before the season start's , dv 2 player better than some so called hulers who past their sell by date :-* Bad dession ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2008, 05:28:17 PM
Come on wee lad....name your 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 21, 2008, 05:55:11 PM
Gareth Magee started training with county squad, Micky Kettle & Neil McAuley are injured. Who's McDonald?

Sean Delargy has been one of the best defenders in Antrim the last couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 21, 2008, 05:55:11 PM
Gareth Magee started training with county squad, Micky Kettle & Neil McAuley are injured. Who's McDonald?

Sean Delargy has been one of the best defenders in Antrim the last couple of years.
is it paul mc donnell from glenariffe? He was their best player last year and is better than a few that are there at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2008, 06:16:08 PM
So now we're saying that the panel that Antrim has is not as good as it could be and would be seriously strengthen by the addition of these players??

At best these players are no better than what we have in the side at present (and I'm being good to you at that on the whole)

On what basis can you argue that that is not the case? From what I've seen you have no argument

Of course change one or two players, but I can tell you our fortunes will not improve because of their inclusion and is simply tinkering

The type of players needed to seriously change Antrims performances don't exist, so we have to work with what we have. I don't think that the panel is that we have is that far away.

Quoteim first to say McFall is our greatest ever hurler, touch, speed, class,

You forgot "dedication and attitude"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 21, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
Mc fall  ;D your good for a laugh mate. Thats better than a friday joke that is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 21, 2008, 06:52:43 PM
well spotted HS, he seems to playing for both sides the lad does. But does rise an interesting point who is antrims greatest hurler? clout, humpy, barr. Anwsers on a postcard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on March 21, 2008, 07:45:30 PM
I've noticed a scurrilous rumour elsewhere - that none other than www.gaaboard's very own Milltown Row has crossed over & become an authority figure.

Milltown - say it ain't so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on March 21, 2008, 07:55:36 PM
It's mentioned there in passing, but it's elsewhere.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 08:09:33 PM
Colonel i wouldnt have Randall up but i would give Paul a go. He is a better hurler in my opinion than Mc Crory, Nipper Quinn, Pj o connell, Maguire and Shane mc Naughton to name a few. As for ciaran mc gourty,he is the best out of the three brothers,milltowns opinion would be worth hearing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2008, 08:35:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 21, 2008, 08:33:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 21, 2008, 08:09:33 PM
Maguire
Philly is one of the soundest lads you'll ever meet but his inclusion on the Antrim squad is baffling. Token lower league player?
Aye i think so Hardstation.Every Antrim manager seems to throw one or two in so nobody can say he isnt giving players from the lower divisions a chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on March 22, 2008, 12:31:22 PM
Cant bite my lip any longer!!! Never heard as much shit being talked from Groundie. Claiming players are not good enough. If you know anything about being a senior inter county player - turning up for training and getting the gear is the minimum requirement. Hence the reason why i firmly believe the current management (who if they kept their mouths shut) are doing  a decent job. they have the majority of players living the lives of county players and while we may not be good enough, they have made progress....beat offaly, wexford, kilkenny in one season is fair progress. Lets be honest we have to be realistic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2008, 12:52:49 PM
Shamrock i agree with some of what you have said but this nonsense about players are now living how county players should is just that,nonsense. Go into the bot or another well known North Antrim watering hole at the weekend and you will see players from various clubs "refuelling"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on March 22, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
Prob every now and again. But I know for a fact the majority are doing extra nights in the gym, eating correctly etc......has this been the norm in the past. It wont happen overnight but i firmly believe that in 4/5 years we will see the real benefits. Our own Neilly McGarry is the prime example....whether he is intercounty full back material is open to debate, i personally feel there are not many better in that position in antrim. But Neill trains like a demon, lives lifestyle, has built him himself seriously in last 18 months and is a driven young lad. Is that a bad thing? Dont think so........compare this to 2 or 3 years ago where certain inter county players were bringing carryouts in their kit bag for after championship matches.......are we making progress????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 23, 2008, 04:49:10 PM
3-22 to 1-8

bring back the walsh cup
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 23, 2008, 06:25:28 PM
Cats Cream Glensmen in Second-Half Rout: Kilkenny 3.22 Antrim 1.08                                     23 March 2008

Despite going in at half-time on equal terms with the All Ireland Champions, Antrim were no match for Kilkenny in the second half and they eventually lost by a 20 point margin.

Paddy Richmond grabbed Antrim's first-half goal to leave the half-time score at 1.05 to 0.08 but Kilkenny tore the Saffrons apart in the second half with Antrim managing just 3 points in this period.

Antrim now move into Division 2 of the restructured leagues which will surely provide them with a level of competition at which they can compete more consistently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 23, 2008, 09:27:04 PM
was there much wind? level at half time is impressive. Were there any stand out players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 23, 2008, 10:46:26 PM
Hes a crackin keeper deseves his spot alright. I think a fair number of positives can be taken from the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on March 23, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
It's true.I can confirm  that our dear friend Milltown Row has indeed gone over to the dark side. I always knew he had an evil streak But didn't think he was into S&M
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 24, 2008, 12:34:30 AM
NHL: Kilkenny cruise to victory
23 March 2008


Kilkenny's embarrassment of riches came home to roost at Nowlan Park as they romped to a facile 3-22 to 1-8 NHL Division 1A win over Antrim.

After a slow, tepid start, the Cats leaped into their stride to propel themselves into the semi-final and leave the Ulstermen facing relegation from the top flight.

Antrim seemed up for the match early on and a Paddy Richmond goal hoisted the visitors into a merited 1-4 to 0-3 lead by the 27th minute with Martin Comerford and Liam Watson helping themselves to fine points for their respective sides in the interim.

Slowly but surely Kilkenny began to find their feet and by half-time they were on level terms, 0-8 to 1-5 thanks, in part, to some fine points by James Ryle, Aidan Fogarty and Richie Hogan while Antrim hung in there with neat points from the likes of Watson and goalscorer Richmond.

It was all downhill though for the Saffons on the restart with Aidan Fogarty bagging the Cats' first goal after some fine points by Eddie Brennan and Hogan plus Cha Fitzpatrick left the hosts leading by 1-15 to 1-5 with 50 minutes on the clock.

With just over ten minutes left to play, it was a game of damage limitation for Antrim as they faced a 1-6 to 2-17 deficit with Martin Comerford adding to the Cats' tally with a well-taken goal.

Things got even worse for the visitors as a goal by Damien Fogarty four minutes from time added salt into their gaping wound.

Kilkenny - J McGarry; C Hickey, JJ Delaney, D Cody; J Dalton, B Hogan, PJ Delaney; J Fitzpatrick (0-2), J Ryall; R Hogan (0-7), M Fennelly, E Brennan (0-2); D Fogarty (1-3), M Comerford (1-2), A Fogarty (1-3). Subs - E Walsh for JJ Delaney, E McGrath for Fitzpatrick, E Reid (0-1) for Comerford, TJ Reid (0-1) for Brennan.

Antrim - R McGarry; A Graffin, N McGarry, S Delargy; C Herron, C Donnelly, K McKeegan; PJ O'Connell, K Stewart (0-1); P McGill, D McNaughton, L Watson (0-5); S McNaughton, P Richmond (1-1), P Shiels (0-1). Subs - B Quinn for D McNaughton, S McCrory for Donnelly, J Campbell for P McGill.


I see Donnelly lined out at centre back,  any improvements on his performance?
Some height in midfield with O'Connell and Stewart  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 01:33:22 PM
I would imagine he swapped with karl before long. strong as an ox but not much pace. S & W could do with sharpening this lads up for championship. now the county game have finished can the hurlers play for the clubs again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
hes a mouth piece alright. However he is making progress winning the walsh cup, beating wexford and being level with kilkenny at half time. these are good indicators of performance. Its a slow process but the team can hold there head with what they have achieved this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 02:32:09 PM
HS, going by the match report, it seems we give it all in the first half and were bollocked in the second. We've all being there. Its time to give the team esp the youngboys a bit of pat on the back. Back with there clubs they will get match fit and sambo using his 'contacts' will arrange some challange games, We cant hope for the all Ireland but a few upsets is what we are after. As for the wexford game it goes to show what are boys can do when they have a bit of fight in them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 24, 2008, 02:50:32 PM
In todays irishnews Sambo is quoted saying " there was 11 u21's playing out there today "

Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on March 24, 2008, 12:34:30 AM

Antrim - R McGarry; A Graffin, N McGarry, S Delargy; C Herron, C Donnelly, K McKeegan; PJ O’Connell, K Stewart (0-1); P McGill, D McNaughton, L Watson (0-5); S McNaughton, P Richmond (1-1), P Shiels (0-1). Subs - B Quinn for D McNaughton, S McCrory for Donnelly, J Campbell for P McGill.


from that team i make 7 including subs. dont know where Sambo gets 11 from
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 03:02:09 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44511000/jpg/_44511414_gallery5.jpg) seems hippy did alright for himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2008, 06:24:32 PM
My sources tell me karl mc keegan has packed it in with the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2008, 07:09:03 PM
No row just fed up to the balls with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 08:04:47 PM
OO dear, Two great stewards (pinky and karl) gone in a season. HOpefully sambo can talk him into playing championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2008, 08:31:40 PM
I think looking back now we can say the Wexford match was an aberration on Wexfords part, Wexford beat Waterford, drew with Dublin and ran Cork to two points so im not sure how much "progress" we have made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
disagree, more later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 10:35:45 PM
from hoganstand: What in the name of god are they doing moving Hippy to centre half back??? I've never even seen him play centre half back for club or county at either senior or underage.

the fella's name is true supporter.

I near choked, hippy is a born and breed back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 24, 2008, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 10:35:45 PM
from hoganstand: What in the name of god are they doing moving Hippy to centre half back??? I’ve never even seen him play centre half back for club or county at either senior or underage.

the fella's name is true supporter.

I near choked, hippy is a born and breed back

without question a back!

would be bad news if Karl was to walk away. from what ive heard of him hes a hard trainer and an experienced figure for the younger lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 24, 2008, 10:48:47 PM
If himself and neal mc auley got abit of pace about them the towns defence would be safe as houses. Ive heard tales good and bad about Karl. Good always outweigh the bad. Hopefully he'll stay on for championship, can the exile confirm that he has left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on March 25, 2008, 01:43:44 PM
Heard a vicious rumour about a few of these antrim players who are supposedly training hard and "living the lives of a county player" climbing in a hotel window on sat night at 5am - questions would have to be asked.....!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 25, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Franko on March 25, 2008, 01:43:44 PM
Heard a vicious rumour about a few of these antrim players who are supposedly training hard and "living the lives of a county player" climbing in a hotel window on sat night at 5am - questions would have to be asked.....!!!!

have you can prove of this? who was involved ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2008, 03:33:34 PM
The Antrim hurlers have always enjoyed their away games,this will never change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 25, 2008, 03:39:48 PM
Ive heard about the card games on the coach to away games. Some craic boys car keys being put down and the like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 25, 2008, 04:09:42 PM
car keys in a bowl? what sort of team building games are they playing? i'm sure Sambo tells ya to swing but ths takes it to another level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 25, 2008, 05:14:22 PM
On a different note - does anyone know what Charlie Carter said/wrote that so vexed our leader?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2008, 06:12:10 PM
Sambo had the players out for a few pints before the relegation play off with Limerick last year which i found astonishing. A lot of people dont give a shit what they get up to when they are away but what people cant tolerate is Sambo and Woody constantly telling us that the kind of behaviour that was allowed to go unchecked by previous managers is no longer happening when it obviously is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on March 25, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
Again the knives sharpen for Sambo & Woody!!
In all honestly, could someone tell me who within realism is better equiped to take Antrim than them?? Possibly Shane Elliot, but i reckon he will in a few years....anybody else?? Dont Think so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on March 25, 2008, 08:38:09 PM
Hows the clubs going? Aye know its early days yet but any reports/. were back training, but its fairly low key stuff at the min im told. St Galls seem to be making a big effort this year. They must smell a rat and fancy pipping us in August ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on March 25, 2008, 08:43:40 PM
Do you really think Jingo would be better?? Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 25, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
jingo and humpy, ack they werent bad at all. why did they go? or were they pushed? they won the crusty ring cup
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2008, 10:14:39 PM
Well its no secret they were pushed and the current county chairman did not behave as you would expect someone in his position should,but he got his wish with the current management and we can see the vast improvement from previous regimes,cant we. . . . . . ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 25, 2008, 11:01:47 PM
hmmm interesting thought they done a pretty good job, humpy is a great trainer. The current bunch managed a talented bunch of minors and u-21s. hopefully in a few years this can be displayed on the big stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 26, 2008, 12:23:21 PM
Im imposing a ban on myself from this website, due to the amount of work i need to be doing. talk to you in a while lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 01, 2008, 09:39:02 AM
No craic here lads, season is nearly starting, the under 21 championship this weekend and the Ulster hurling league starts on Saturday night, couple of points that need to be sorted out, will the senior teams be going flat out in the ulster hurling league this year? considering that the div 1 league will be tight and the div2/3 league will be tight at the top and at the bottom. playing tough games on a saturday night then a important league game the next day!

we play Ballycastle (UHL) the night before we play Rossa in the first match of the league. cant see us bringing down a senior team, we may give them some 15 minutes but it would be foolish. as i'm sure the Castle will be taking all their league games serious
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 01, 2008, 11:47:34 AM
Think the Ulster leage will become obselite if we can get the Antrim leagues running properly.
It only filled the void of lack of games in Antrim.

Cant see any of the top teams putting out any sort of team in the UL with a league game the next day, would be crazy too. Although can see if benefitting any of those teams with bigger squads, Loughguile and Dunloy mainly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 01, 2008, 11:56:36 AM
comes back to the timimg of the Ulster hurling league, should be started a lot earlier, clubs will take it a lot more seriously. the Ulster football league is a success because they play it early the final was last week 2 weeks before the county leagues start up, good prep for club teams. but then again it's football and Ulster we are talking about and hurling does not seem to fit into their plans
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 01, 2008, 12:18:27 PM
Ulster seem they are doing their bit for Hurling by organising these leagues. U21 Championship starts this weekend...think those matches are on Sunday. So alot of the teams wont be playing some of the younger players on Saturday as they championship on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 01, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
Ulster are only paying lip service to hurling with these leagues.

One highly paid offical and this is the only scheme in 3 years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 02, 2008, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: Shamrock on March 25, 2008, 08:38:09 PM
Hows the clubs going? Aye know its early days yet but any reports/. were back training, but its fairly low key stuff at the min im told. St Galls seem to be making a big effort this year. They must smell a rat and fancy pipping us in August ;)

Shamrock, we've been trying to pip you for years, but were still 5/6 points of the pace, our championship this year is the league, if we manage to give you a close game then grand, i'm more interested in focusing on Rossa, Ballycran, Gorts, Lamhs and the other teams that are looking to get out of this league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 04, 2008, 08:45:10 AM
any thoughts about this weekend of hurling lads? we're very quiet, we play the dall and they were looking to get it called off!!!!!!

think they may have a few boys away but i'm sure they are a strong outfit, we probably wont have CJ or Sean Burke due to football committments, unless mister Gormley sees the benifit of releasing players to play club Championship.

who'd be favourites for this Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 04, 2008, 10:02:02 AM
under 21 championship should be very interesting, would cushendall not start as stand out favourites given McManus, McNaughton, Graffin, McGill, McCarthey all very strong players at this level and will be very keen to make amends for that shock defeat to Clooney Gaels last year.  Loughgiel should also boost impressive creditials with several players who competed in Senior Championship finals in recent years, they too have big players in the McCloskeys, McKillop and Coyles and will be there or thereabouts this year as they always seem to be very competitive at this grade.

Our boys (Dunloy) play Ballycastle on Sunday and i just hope the pitch is in a condition suitable for championship hurling, Ballycastle will be favourites for this game given the comprehensive nature of their victory in last years decider.  But no too games of hurling are the same and it would be a fair assumption that dunloy played within themselves last year and will have a bit more fire in the bellies.  Ballycastle as a very big strong imposing team with plenty of pace on the wings and in Neal McAuley have one of the outstanding players at this grade (if fit)

Unfortuanately don't know much about the city teams, but would have thought the Johnnies would be starting to deliver on all that underage promise, that seems to be a problem for city team in bringing through winning minor championship teams.  Its bound to be a long time since the u21 championship went to belfast.  In the last 10-12 years i can think of an outstanding st pauls, rossa (2) and st galls teams that didn't quite make it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 04, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Max we played 3 under21 finals in a row against the Shamrocks in the past 6/7 years,

we would not be strong but the Johhnies and Rossa should have decent teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 04, 2008, 10:38:40 AM
Milltown...maybe i'm mistaken but were Cushendall not looking to get the match changed to Saturday instead of Sunday. ie play U21 Championship on Saturday & Rossa in Ulster league on Sunday.Heard that Sean Burke will be playing for St galls & is CJ not injured

McManus more & likely wont be playing & probably wont hurl again this year, has to go for operation at start of May. McCarthy is not hurling this year out of choice...(dont ask).....So again it's a pretty open championship this year with B/castle, Loughgiel, St Johns, Dunloy all pretty strong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 04, 2008, 11:27:00 AM
Under 21 Hurling Championship - Rearranged Fixtures04 April 2008
1. St. Gall's v Cushendall
Refixed to:  Wednesday, 9th April @ 8.00 p.m. in Casement Park

2. Lamh Dhearg v St. Brendan's
Refixed to: Saturday, 12th April @ 2.00 p.m. at Lamh Dhearg


I wot imagine st galls match changed due to Antrim football match on Sunday. Fair enough if it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 04, 2008, 11:39:15 AM
Loughgiel U21's hammered Glenarm in a friendly on Tues evening in Feystown. We were the only club about willing to play them a friendly ( according to themselves)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 04, 2008, 12:10:43 PM
at training on wed night the match was fixed for Sunday night, dont think the management wanted to change it, CJ and sean Burke were both due to play for their club in championship hurling, non starters in the football for Jody.

we are playing portaferry on sat night so it could not be moved.

seems the CCC have re arranged the first game of the year in hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 04, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 04, 2008, 10:02:02 AM
Unfortuanately don't know much about the city teams, but would have thought the Johnnies would be starting to deliver on all that underage promise, that seems to be a problem for city team in bringing through winning minor championship teams.  Its bound to be a long time since the u21 championship went to belfast.  In the last 10-12 years i can think of an outstanding st pauls, rossa (2) and st galls teams that didn't quite make it.

St John's are not in this years u21 hurling chapionship   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 04, 2008, 05:11:28 PM
No, St.John's did not enter the u21 hurling championship. Which is Strange. Not sure if it was a mistake or a way of saving a few pounds.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 04, 2008, 05:30:13 PM
So they have one county senior hurler then

and a lot of boys who have contested hurling championships at juvenile level

all in all strange from St Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2008, 05:35:29 PM
I hear there is a split in St Johns between the hurlers and footballers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 04, 2008, 05:37:21 PM
Cant believe they dont have a team. Is it cos they dont think they can win it or wot??

As hardstation said they had a good minor team in that final & maybe should have won it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 04, 2008, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 04, 2008, 05:14:06 PM
*Barry McFall being the second, although, he pulled off the county panel recently.

Did he now?  :o :o :o  :D

Did they keep their helmets on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baggio on April 04, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
Milltown

Think you'll find that St Galls secretary contacted Cushendall secretary looking match moved because they had 2 players playing for the County footballers. They couldn't rearrange it and wasit  left to be played on Sunday. CCC then went back on earlier decision not to refix and changed it to Wednesday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 05, 2008, 10:51:38 AM

Are they not? That's a good St. John's team. They were unlucky to be beaten by Cushendall in the Minor Final 3 years ago.
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Think that may have being ballycastle HS, they were in a couple of county finals at minor level in that period but i guess the lads found out about the ale in the bot or were distracted by women, tut tut
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 05, 2008, 03:12:04 PM
Young Fella.. Cushendall beat St Johns in 2005 minor final. Cushendall got a couple of late goals to win it. Did St Johns maybe play a final a couple of years before that??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2008, 03:16:07 PM
I think they played in the 2004 final against Dunloy too,could be wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2008, 10:04:42 PM
And beat them Handy as well. Although we had a very young side, St Johns were a really impressive side at that point. Must be a torture keeping boys hurling in the big smoke whenever they discover the battle of old english.

Interestingly, Dunloy got to the U21 final with that very same side last year. Tells it's own story there  :-\. Would love the city teams to start competing at Senior again. Have they no pride?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2008, 11:26:22 AM
Yeah ....all fair points HS

So most of that minor team are still hurling?...there you go. I wouldn't have known that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2008, 12:05:55 PM
I think its too simple and lazy an argument to make that just because a team in Belfast does not make the transition from under age to senior hurling. What about the strong under age teams in the last 20 years in Loughguile? Granted there seem to be more distractions in Belfast,especially well run soccer leagues. The demon drink culture is as prevalent in any North Antrim village as in West Belfast albeit on a smaller scale. Lads in any club find that with senior hurling mainly played on a Sunday that sitting in the house in a Saturday night and training three nights a week is not for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 06, 2008, 04:52:02 PM
to give hurling up for drinking and well run soccer leagues is mental and if they prefer that to playing hurling then they were never really committed, find it real strange that the Johnnies did not enter.

about the under 21 re fix, like all clubs the right hand never knows what the left hand is doing, under lights at Casement, Jody was asked if we could have burkey and cj and he thought about it then came back saying he wanted burkey but cj was not fit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2008, 06:50:45 PM
I hear Woody and Sambo asked Liam Richmond up to the county panel but he declined,it all sounds a bit desperate. Rumour that  Cloot has been offered the full forward spot if he wants it are unfounded though. . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 06, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
Anyone know how St Mary's CBGS got on this afternoon in Dublin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on April 07, 2008, 10:30:58 AM
North antrim belivers .I posted  a post a few weeks ago & few off u guys wern't happy with it , coming back with all sorts of insults ,(the north antrim way )
now reading some of the more upto date one's how fast u guys can change ur tune ,lets be honest some county u21 teams could win the welsh cup, Now look at the county team now ,running about looking for players , a few wishper's floating about saying this guy should play here ,see what happens to teams when they win somthing ,when antrim win they think that it weve done our job but when killkenny lose or tip they come back a lot stronger ,Big diffrence All u do is moan ,moan moan moan ,listen to what muck u guys can go on about .no names (skull, minder ) 2 sound like bum chums u ask me .The country boys think it's their god given right to tell everybody how to play .Lads what u need up their in redneck land is some loving .
Keep the love flowing The Rassssssssssssssssss :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2008, 11:24:04 AM
Another invaluable contribution there ras.

What were st marys playing in? Was that the all ireland b hurling? If so that's a good win but I'm not sure of what that was in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2008, 11:25:32 AM
All Ireland B Semi Final......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2008, 12:57:32 PM
I've worked out why my head hurts. I tried over and over again to understand wtf Ras was talking about. Obviously haven't got intellect to stay with such a bright young mind.  :-\

Going for a lie down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on April 07, 2008, 01:32:29 PM
Trust the Skull & the minder to back each other up  :oTold u them guys were Bum Chums .Have a  :-*on me boys ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2008, 01:40:02 PM
What did you make of the U21's Skull, must have been a turn up for the books there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 07, 2008, 02:17:15 PM
Dunloy  2-17 1-7 Ballycastle

Loughgiel  - - Sarsfields 

looks like a poor show from last years champions?

why was the second game not played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2008, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 07, 2008, 01:40:02 PM
What did you make of the U21's Skull, must have been a turn up for the books there!

Mmmmmm. I dunno NAG. The simplistic view would have been as that they had hammered us last year in the final, the same would would happen yesterday. The reality IMO opinion was that Dunloy's performace was so bad last year in the final that the manner of their victory probably made Ballycastle look a much better side that day than they were (they are still a very good side btw). Last year we didn't compete. Yesterday we did, and put in a very good performance as a result. Ballycastle OTOH didn't look to as up for the game as Dunloy which was probably a hangover from last years final stroll against us. Somebody from McQ's can give us their perspective. The Dunloy lads can be very proud of the way they went about it yesterday, but I don't think anybody will be getting ahead of themselves just yet. Plenty of good sides at U21 level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 07, 2008, 03:51:02 PM
Skull would it have anything to do with your teams fitness/touch/striking being better due to the long season? i'd say Ballycastle have only started training serious lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2008, 04:02:45 PM
Hard to separate specific factors milltown but I'm sure it was a factor alright for the players on the senior panel. In fairmess to Ballycastle, not having Neill McAuley would have been a massive blow to them as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 11, 2008, 10:32:10 AM
we played Cushendall the other night in the under 21 championship, thought they would have given us a beating but had we have made changes early on and taken the scoreable frees we had it, the game would have been a lot closer.

granted Cushendall were without the services of McManus, but they still had a formidable team, while ours was made up with minors and some under21's. for the supporters who went they got to watch a good game of hurling and i was hearten by the effort and skill of the Naomh Gall team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 11, 2008, 07:30:53 PM
whats happened to Neill McAuley ? was Hippy play?

Thats a nice way for some of your younger lads to bounce back skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 12, 2008, 07:49:55 PM
any word why lamb dhearg v st brendans was not played today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 13, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
Anyone hear how St Marys got on today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 14, 2008, 02:06:26 PM
As requested earlier...any word on why Lamh Dhearg didn't field against St brendans in the Under 21s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2008, 02:15:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2008, 02:08:28 PM
According to the county website, the CCC are investigating it.

Did the reply go something along the lines of "its none of your business and everyone has fulltime jobs to do but the CCC are investigating" ...................................................................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2008, 02:24:16 PM
Aye and when they say "other websites" they really mean here, Chairman Mc Sparran does a lot of the admin work on the official site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 14, 2008, 03:09:46 PM
We had he most bizarre game on Sat night in Ballycran, the game was to be an Ulster hurling game but was called off due the Down team playing Westmeath on the Sunday.

So we played them in a challenge game, we were struggling with players away at stags and weddings this weekend so it suited us. So players headed off to Ballycran and as it turned out some players did not way in leaving us with 13 players. We borrowed two players from them and as we had no keeper we asked for someone from Ballycran to do nets.

The game was level at half time and it was very competitive but 15 minutes into the second half the 'goal keeper' doing nets for us from Ballycran wanted to play out so he had a cunning plan, the next ball came in and he caught it, turned and scored a deliberate own goal!!!!!!! MENTAL, left the pitch shouting at his own bench. The game then descended into a farce after that. Poor sportsmanship by a club that you wouldn't normally associate with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 14, 2008, 03:39:24 PM
U21 fixtures just added on the county website

Dunloy  Rossa                       Dunloy 18/04/2008 18:45 TBC   
Loughgiel  Gaeil Chluana         Loughgiel Shamrocks 18/04/2008 18:45 TBC   
Cushendall  St. Teresas          Cushendall 18/04/2008 18:45 TBC   
Gort Na Mona  St. Brendans    Gort Na Mona 18/04/2008 18:45 TBC

looks like Lamb Dhearg and Sarsfields were given the boot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 14, 2008, 06:09:23 PM
Absolute joke from that Ballycran player (but hilarious). Its something you'd see when you were 12.

Excuse my ignorance but where is Gort Na Mona? Wouldn't mind having a look at their under 21 match on Thursday.

I am fed up getting annoyed at the replies on the Antrim site. Don't get me wrong, its great that they come back but alot of the time they needn't bother. Can imagine the Good Doctor sitting in the leather jacket and shades replying away to his hearts content. I'd say he would like to meet Skull!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2008, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2008, 02:21:42 PM
That's a typical one. Another is, "Go back to the other websites that you usually spout your nonsense on."
Poor aul Skull got an awful time off them.

Still trying to get over the trauma.  :'(

Quote from: Glensman on April 14, 2008, 06:09:23 PM
I'd say he would like to meet Skull!!
Sure he's hiding behind his computer like the rest of us "cowards" :)




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 14, 2008, 06:39:23 PM
turn off the motor way at Kennedy way
drive straight up Kennedy way, go through the roundabout and continue up the monagh bypass
when you get to the top of the monagh bypass, past the gypsie camp on the opposite side of the road you will see some flats
turn off right at the entrance to the flats and you cant miss it

taken from gort na mona's website:
http://www.gortnamonaclg.com/

Directions 
FROM M1.
Exit at Junction 2, Balmoral & follow signs for Outer Ring, Andersonstown via Kennedy way, Clubrooms & pitch are located at top of Monagh By-pass.


Google Earth web-link for Antrim clubs:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=779782&t=k&om=1 


hopefully that helps you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space, the good doctor seems to think that the only people with Antrims best interests at hearts are those that post solely on the Antrim site. You will be wasting our time though if you post on there and expect either reasoned debate or a reasonable reply to your posts. As Glensman said you can just imagine him there with his man from Del Monte linen suit and wrap around shades on with steam coming out his ears. He actually does more harm than good as good Antrim Gaa folk will go elsewhere to post their "opinion", an opinion is also something that is against the grain on the official site. If you dont agree with them you are wrong and partaking in "internet gossip"...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 14, 2008, 09:16:44 PM
Cheers Play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space

Wise up!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2008, 09:46:06 PM
I always had a funny feeling this Mhic Easmuint character was the admin there...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2008, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space

Wise up!!

Is that all you have to add?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space

Wise up!!

Is that all you have to add?

Yes with such a ridiculous statement. 
There is plenty of useful information available on the website. 
Websites which are a waste of space do not get an average of 1300 daily visitors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2008, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space

Wise up!!

Is that all you have to add?

Yes with such a ridiculous statement. 
There is plenty of useful information available on the website. 
Websites which are a waste of space do not get an average of 1300 daily visitors.

Well allow me to clairify, the guestbook section is a waste of space.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2008, 08:43:31 PM
The official Antrim site is a waste of space

Wise up!!

Is that all you have to add?

Yes with such a ridiculous statement. 
There is plenty of useful information available on the website. 
Websites which are a waste of space do not get an average of 1300 daily visitors.

Well allow me to clairify, the guestbook section is a waste of space.
Your entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2008, 10:52:44 PM
Well it's hard to argue with that defense  :-\. At least have the balls to argue your position Mhic Easmuint. You never know, you might convince us. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 10:58:56 PM
Argue my position??  I did, which was against the statement that the official Antrim Website was a waste of space, which Minder clarified that he did not mean.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2008, 11:29:01 PM
Yes, at which point you ran out of opinion on his clarification. Do you secretly agree with him on that point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 11:37:58 PM
No,
It is an official County website so the team of administrators would obviously defend any bad comments or rumours which appear on it. 
At least they take the time to reply, I administer my own club website guestbook and anything which I don't like just gets deleted straight away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 15, 2008, 07:53:58 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2008, 11:37:58 PM
No,
It is an official County website so the team of administrators would obviously defend any bad comments or rumours which appear on it. 
At least they take the time to reply, I administer my own club website guestbook and anything which I don't like just gets deleted straight away.


What I have issue with is, what "admin" defines as "bad comments" and the (lack of) style with which he defends/attacks opinions which do not tow the line. Hardly encouraging interest from the populus with such a heavy handed approach to critical comment. The guy's a bloody communist.


Case in point below.

Quote
Name : Golfer07 April 2008Firstly, do you know who won the golfing comp yesterday in Ballycastle? Secondly - I would like to say how disappointed I was in way it was organised and set up. After we finished our round, we didn't know who to hand our cards in to or where to find them! There was no communication informing when prize giving was. And £40 for a round of golf and a MEAL. I don't know who advertised this as a meal. A frozen chicken burger, beef burger, chicken goujans or fry with cremated chips! In my books, this isn't a meal, especially after paying £40 towards it. Who exactly does the proceeds go too and what does the money fund?


Admins reply
This competition was organised by the North Antrim Board and was won by Oliver Mulvenna from Glenarm. We can't understand why you have come onto the county's website to anonymously complain about this rather than registering your dissatisfaction with the North Antrim officials who were present throughout the whole day in the Golf club? Do you think that will achieve anything or maybe you, like many others simply want to complain for the sake of complaining. The officials present were at the same place to receive cards when rounds were finished so we can't understand how when you got your cards you couldn't remember where to return them. You certainly can't have looked too hard, but obviously you found out how to get your meal which somehow doesn't make much sense. Green fees for Ballycastle on a Sunday would normally be around £25 and £5 was set aside for the meals. Nobody ever suggested that you were getting a 5 course gourmet dinner and despite your criticism of the food, everybody else seemd to be satisified with this. This event was run to raise funds for the development of games in North Antrim - why did you think you were there in the first place? Did somebody ambush you and forcibly bring you to this? Perhaps you will consider bringing any legitimate complaint you might have to the appropriate forum because all in all most people seemed to have enjoyed the day, despite the inclement weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 15, 2008, 09:23:47 AM
Sunday 20th April 2008
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1       Team 2   Referee                    Venue                    Time
Ballycastle    v   St. Johns    McIntyre Tommy   Ballycastle                    15:00
Loughgiel    v   Glenariff    Hasson Eamon   Loughgiel Shamrocks    15:00
Dunloy    v   Ballygalget    McHenry John   Dunloy                    15:00

Antrim Hurling Reserve D1
Team 1       Team 2   Referee                   Venue   Time
Ballycastle    v   St. Johns    Mitchell Willie   Ballycastle   13:30
Dunloy    v   Ballygalget    McHugh Aidan   Dunloy   13:30

Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1                       Team 2    Referee                      Venue                   Time
Carey Faughs    v   Glenravel    Duffy Garrett   Carey Faughs   15:00
Gaeil Chluana    v   Cloughmills    Traynor Francis   Ahoghill                   15:00
Gort Na Mona    v   Armoy    Wells Terence   Gort Na Mona   15:00
Lamh Dhearg    v   Ballycran    McAuley Liam   Lamh Dhearg   15:00
Shane O Neills    v   Cushendun Elliott Owen   Shane ONeills   15:00
St. Galls                    v   Rossa    Torney Hugh   St. Galls                   15:00
St. Pauls                    v   Rasharkin    Magee Declan   St. Pauls                   15:00
Tir na Nog       v   Sarsfields    Matthews Ray   Tir na Nog                   15:00

Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
Team 1       Team 2                   Referee                   Venue   Time
St. Galls 2          v   St. Teresas    Prenter Sean   St. Galls   13:30
Ardoyne           v   Lamh Dhearg 2   Quinn Liam                   Cherryvale   14:00
St. Agnes           v   St. Endas                    Reilly Terry                   St. Agnes   15:00

Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008
Team 1       Team 2                   Referee                   Venue                   Time
Davitts             v   Larne                    McGrath Davy   Boucher Road   14:00
Creggan Gaels      v   Sean McDermotts    Graham Harry   Creggan Gaels   15:00
St. Brigids (B )     v      Sarsfields 2   Murray Sean                   St. Brigids                   15:00
               

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on April 16, 2008, 07:00:37 PM
We have a busy weekend a head of us......we play U-21 on Friday night, Ulster league on Saturday, and County league on Sunday. Theres a possibility of some players playing 3 games in a row. And the GAA talk about burn out etc etc. Hopefully we have a big enough panel to cope. U-21 championship we play Clooney gaels. They beat Cushendall last year - big shock. Anyone hear what there like this year? We have a decent team as usual this year, so we should give it a good rattle!!

We played Ballycastle last saturday night in our first Ulster league game, eventually winning by 9 or 10 points. But we struggled against a poor town team. It was low key, aand as far as i know it was our first venture on grass this year due to unavailiability of pitches to train outside on!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 16, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on April 16, 2008, 07:00:37 PM
We have a busy weekend a head of us......we play U-21 on Friday night, Ulster league on Saturday, and County league on Sunday. Theres a possibility of some players playing 3 games in a row. And the GAA talk about burn out etc etc. Hopefully we have a big enough panel to cope. U-21 championship we play Clooney gaels. They beat Cushendall last year - big shock. Anyone hear what there like this year? We have a decent team as usual this year, so we should give it a good rattle!!

We played Ballycastle last saturday night in our first Ulster league game, eventually winning by 9 or 10 points. But we struggled against a poor town team. It was low key, aand as far as i know it was our first venture on grass this year due to unavailiability of pitches to train outside on!!

Couldnt be right Shamrock as Loughguile have played quite a few friendlies and i would imagine they were played on grass...........
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Post by: sail_in on April 17, 2008, 08:15:08 AM
QuoteU-21 championship we play Clooney gaels. They beat Cushendall last year - big shock. Anyone hear what there like this year?

As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think we'll be very strong this year. 

Last year we had a good set of 15 players, and then this year we lose, I think, 4 or 5 from that, mostly in vital positions (centre-half back, midfield, full-forward and then a couple more) and there's only really 2 very strong U16s from last year to come into the setup.  As well as that there's a couple of boys injured.  The fella that was centre-half forward last year got injured playing football at the end of last year and will more than likely be doing nets tomorrow night.

But sure you never know - I don't mind telling you that I thought we'd get hammered when we entered that competition last year and, well, sure you know what happened!

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Post by: milltown row on April 18, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
biggest match this weekend in div 1 will be the Johnnies against Ballycastle serious business now with the league smaller and the points meaning so much, Ballycastle have always beat the Johnnies in big games but i'm going for a St Johns win.

in div2/3 we play Rossa (6.45pm Milltown Row) which i think is the biggest match in that league. tough call but i'm going for a home win by a point, Rossa will not want to be beaten by us again and will go all out for a win. Jim Connelly back playing for them which is a bonus and Gavin Bell coming back to fitness. But i think we'll hold out
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Post by: NAG on April 18, 2008, 10:59:09 AM
Yeah i hear St Johns have savage work done already over the winter an with Ballycastle getting turned over in the U21's could be the beginning of a bad year for the sea siders.
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Post by: Guillem2 on April 18, 2008, 11:10:02 AM
Big game on Sunday Milltown Row. It could set the scene for the season for both clubs. Wee Hugh from Ballycran is the ref. I hope youse treat him better than ye did the last time he was over!  ;)
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Post by: milltown row on April 18, 2008, 11:28:43 AM
will be a different game from last year, thats for sure. it will be in the melting pot right up to the end i think, the difference being Karl Stewart who's been playing really well of late.
Title: !
Post by: St Johns Blue on April 18, 2008, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 18, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
in div2/3 we play Rossa (6.45pm Milltown Row) which i think is the biggest match in that league. tough call but i'm going for a home win by a point, Rossa will not want to be beaten by us again and will go all out for a win. Jim Connelly back playing for them which is a bonus and Gavin Bell coming back to fitness. But i think we'll hold out

wat sort of muppet are you??galls beat rossa??i no rosa have been bad bt nowere near st galls standart!!get real ya spa!!
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Post by: milltown row on April 18, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
i'm glad to see a johnnies man on the board, i see they have not lost their arrogance.

Are st johns going to win the championship under Mickey Johnstone?
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Post by: Minder on April 18, 2008, 02:26:01 PM
Glenariffe didnt start Tosh, Paul Mc Donnell and a couple of their other stongest players last week and still tanked Rossa, by all accounts they are woeful. I would fancy St Galls to beat them.
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Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 02:27:53 PM
Well minder, I thought your network was down or something - you've been unusually quiet!
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Post by: Minder on April 18, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 02:27:53 PM
Well minder, I thought your network was down or something - you've been unusually quiet!

Some of us have work to do Nrico, i just havent seen anything worthy of my wisdom........
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Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
Im a busy man, someone has to keep this place afloat!
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Post by: Minder on April 18, 2008, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2008, 03:01:19 PM
We're long overdue a Johnnies man on this board. Glad we got one of great calibre.

I have a feeling he could be gone before the throw in on Sunday........
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Post by: Minder on April 18, 2008, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
Or it could be yer boy from 'Dunloy' who devoted his avatar and signature to 'Brian McFall - Antrim's greatest ever hurler'.
Groundie or Groundlie or something.

I think he was sectioned under the mental health act.
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Post by: Fairhead on April 18, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 18, 2008, 10:59:09 AM
Yeah i hear St Johns have savage work done already over the winter an with Ballycastle getting turned over in the U21's could be the beginning of a bad year for the sea siders.

Well many a team has done savage work over the winter and not been getting a sun tan from training in August so wouldn't worry too much about that  :P. I would agree with some others though that Div 1 will be very competitive this year and i think it will be vital to at least win the home games against the teams around you and try to nick another 1 or 2. Think its between Ballycastle, Glenariffe and St Johns for relegation so Ballycastle need to be aiming to beat the Johnnies, Glenariffe and 1 if not both Down teams at home. Might be wrong but i think 4 wins might be good enough to keep a team up.
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Post by: Minder on April 18, 2008, 09:00:35 PM
It probably will be between Glenariffe, St Johns & Ballycastle for the drop. My money would be on St Johns to go down as they dont have enough scoring forwards.They would probably be a bit wiser coming under the radar this year, they have been the "a dark horse" for the last few years and have done nothing when push has come to shove.
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 18, 2008, 09:45:31 PM
Some of the U21 matches went as expected

Dunloy beat Rossa by 3
Cushendall beat St Teresa's 1-11 to 0-2
Loughgiel beat Clooney Gaels by 1-15 - to 2-5 (I think)

Not sure of the other match??
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Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 18, 2008, 10:05:29 PM
Gort Na Mona  1-15 2-6 St. Brendans 
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Post by: aontroim on April 19, 2008, 09:38:21 AM
Loughgiel 1-14 - 2-5 Clooney Gaels - creditable enough performance from Clooney given their lack of numbers this year and injuries - was expecting a tanking as loughgiel have had a few good minor teams last few years and a good record at u21
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Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2008, 05:57:10 PM
Lamh Dhearg  - - Ballycran 

any idea why this match was off?
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Post by: Minder on April 20, 2008, 06:28:51 PM
Loughguile 3-20 Glenariffe 0-11.the ref didnt bother his arse turning up.
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Post by: Minder on April 20, 2008, 06:33:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 20, 2008, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 20, 2008, 06:28:51 PM
Loughguile 3-20 Glenariffe 0-11.the ref didnt bother his arse turning up.
Nor did the Glenariffe backs by the looks of things.
I thought somebody would come back with that!  Do refs get fined when they dont turn up?
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Post by: Minder on April 20, 2008, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 20, 2008, 07:00:50 PM
Ballycastle 0-10 StJohns 1-17 a cakewalk for the johnnies
How did your team Dunloy do groundlie?
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Post by: Minder on April 20, 2008, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 20, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
St. Gall's beat Rossa narrowly (I think). I was guessing the score throughout the game.
A mix of young and old for Rossa. Hurled well enough. Chris Hamill made a difference when he came on during the second half. No Connolly.
Gall's forward line is sharp and took a number of great scores. Very fit. Rusty but more hurling will bring them on a lot.

Edit: Houl on. According to the county website, they drew 1-14 to 3-08. I thought St. Gall's won given the cheer that went up at the final whistle.

Why did Hamill not start? I wouldnt have thought they have that strong a squad they could leave him off.
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Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 20, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
We beat the ballygalget by 19 to 1-10 i had it.

Galget were very poor never got out of the black at all!

Think thats grossly unfair to say that groundie. Although Dunloy were well worth their victory, Ballygalget gave them a real game today. They just lacked a bit a quality where it counts, but when it came to commitment, you have to give it to the ards men they have it in spades as do Dunloy btw. I wish our Div2/3 cousins up in the big smoke came with that sort of fight for league games.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on April 21, 2008, 12:15:53 AM
Was kevin mcgourty playing hurling for st galls today?
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Post by: NAG on April 21, 2008, 09:57:31 AM
Anyone got the results of all yesterdays games?

any reports on the county men involved with the various clubs?
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Post by: johnneycool on April 21, 2008, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 20, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
We beat the ballygalget by 19 to 1-10 i had it.

Galget were very poor never got out of the black at all!

Think thats grossly unfair to say that groundie. Although Dunloy were well worth their victory, Ballygalget gave them a real game today. They just lacked a bit a quality where it counts, but when it came to commitment, you have to give it to the ards men they have it in spades as do Dunloy btw. I wish our Div2/3 cousins up in the big smoke came with that sort of fight for league games.  ::)


Agreed on the lack of quality plus that wee bit of savvy is missing in and around the middle third of our team. The only decent balls going into our forwards came from Barry Coulter and he's touching 36 FFS. Our first touch isn't great with too many fumbles and missed catches throughout. We really miss big Aaron Dynes in at No6, he was up at the game but had to leave urgently for personal reasons before the game started. Our midfield never got to grips with nancy who was able to pick his passes into the likes of Shields and Darren Quinn who can eat up the ground. For some reason our half back line got dragged up the field leaving acres of space inside for the Dunloy fullforward line, yet down the other end of the field magic and paddy rat had no room at all to work in. A few long range point takers required urgently. We somehow got it down to three points in the second half without playing a great deal of hurling and you'd of hoped it would of spured us on, but no, Dunloy rattled over the next half dozen scores to leave a sizeable margin at the end.
Disappointing to say the least.


Now for the bodies at home next weekend..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 21, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
I think we shot ourselves in the foot regarding our match, we were the dominate team the whole way through and just give away stupid goals to allow Rossa back into the game. The game also lack any real bite, which was surprising for such a big game.

Good crowd down to watch the match on a great night for hurling, and Rossa looked very young with some good performances from their kids. Had we taken our good chances and been a bit tighter in nets we would have won easy enough. Some discussion after the game regarding the score the entire crowd and the Rossa players thought they had lost by a point, but the score line from the referee made it level.

Our management took off our best player for dissent after he received a yellow card for talking to the referee, would other management teams take off their best player in a crucial match? It's not surprising that in the time he was off Rossa scored 2 - 6
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Post by: aontroim on April 21, 2008, 10:42:34 AM
St. Galls 1-14 v 3-8 Rossa
Tir na Nog 3-12 v 2-9 Sarsfields
Carey Faughs 1-16 v 1-10 Glenravel
Gaeil Chluana 5-15 v 1-11 Cloughmills
Gort Na Mona 3-18 v 1-11 Armoy
Lamh Dhearg - v - Ballycran  Not Played 
Shane O Neills 0-13 v 1-6 Cushendun
St. Pauls 1-18 v 1-6 Rasharkin

Tir na nOg will be happy with that result - most of the others look to be as expected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 21, 2008, 10:54:24 AM
johnneycool

I dont think it was by accident that your half back line was pulled out of place. Thats how all good teams get control of a game, open it up up front and therefore there is less room for the opposition forwards at the other end.
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Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 21, 2008, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 21, 2008, 10:34:31 AM

Our management took off our best player for dissent after he received a yellow card for talking to the referee, would other management teams take off their best player in a crucial match? It’s not surprising that in the time he was off Rossa scored 2 - 6


who was your best player?
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Post by: johnneycool on April 21, 2008, 11:50:36 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 21, 2008, 10:54:24 AM
johnneycool

I dont think it was by accident that your half back line was pulled out of place. Thats how all good teams get control of a game, open it up up front and therefore there is less room for the opposition forwards at the other end.

I know, but our half back line get suckered into it every time. I'd like to see our halfbacks sit deeper and let our midfield and our own half forwards fill the space in there but we'd need to work harder at it on the training field..
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Post by: NAG on April 21, 2008, 12:10:27 PM
Johnneycool

Its hard to do especially against a good team and players who know how to create that space.
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Post by: theskull1 on April 21, 2008, 01:33:28 PM
You'll know better than me about the influence of Aaron Dynes (has he ginger hair as well ;)) JC but I thought Gabriel Clarke looked a real class act at 6 yesterday for yourselves. Maybe got pulled out of position at times but on the ball he looks a fine hurler. Where does he normally play for youse?
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Post by: milltown row on April 21, 2008, 01:43:27 PM

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who was your best player?

[/quote]

Karl Stewart, won a lot of ball and was playing well
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Post by: johnneycool on April 21, 2008, 02:08:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 21, 2008, 01:33:28 PM
You'll know better than me about the influence of Aaron Dynes (has he ginger hair as well ;)) JC but I thought Gabriel Clarke looked a real class act at 6 yesterday for yourselves. Maybe got pulled out of position at times but on the ball he looks a fine hurler. Where does he normally play for youse?

Nah, Big Aaron has darkish hair and not a ging like me  ;)

Aaron is a big lad and very direct, a kinda no nonsense centre back. Good in the air and good striker of the ball. Gabs Clarke is a different type player alltogether, stylish, wristy hurler but not overly interested in the physical aspect of centre back play of stopping the runners coming through the middle. He was supposed to play midfield yesterday on Nancy but with Aaron having to leave right at the last minute, meant a reshuffle, robbing Peter to pay Paul a bit which didn't work for us on the night.
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Post by: NAG on April 21, 2008, 03:18:25 PM
Noel Carabine RIP

True gentleman of our association, he will be sadly missed by the Rossa club and every club across the county.

Thoughts and prayers are with his family.
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Post by: theskull1 on April 21, 2008, 03:46:53 PM
Indeed, Noel was a great Rossa Gael. RIP
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Post by: groundlie on April 21, 2008, 05:24:48 PM
Noel Carabine

Rest in Peace
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Post by: Guillem2 on April 21, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
RIP. He'll be sadly missed by all who knew him.
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Post by: milltown row on April 23, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
Busy week ahead with hurling fixtures on the Sunday and the following wed night. stick your Ulster hurling league games in and i'm sure the injuries will pile up, no bar.

cant see us giving the competition (UHL) any real attempt this year, league points are far too important.
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Post by: NAG on April 23, 2008, 09:18:25 AM
Milltown

As I have said in the past that once we got a correct structure for our league were the points actually meant something then the Ul would become obselite for the Antrim sides. These fixtures are no more than a nuisance now. Clubs involved in the U21 championship will now be two rounds behind in the UL and with important league fixtures on consecutive sundays cant see these getting played in any shape or form. Time to scrap it and cut the losses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 23, 2008, 09:39:23 AM
Clubs obviously have to manage their resources and the all county league takes priority but the availability of mostly competive games in the UL surely must be an opportunity for reserve/fringe/U21/minors and ultimately strengthen the Senior squad later in the season when it may well count. I am pretty sure Dunloy used it to good effect last year. We'd better be carefull or decent hurlers will end up wasting their talents on the big ball. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2008, 09:48:13 AM
Totally agree with you Last Man if the fixtures were arranged to allow such things to happen. This year is vastly different to last year. Now we have the UHL tripping over the top of U21 championship matches and ACHL matches. It was always going to be the one to fall off the to do list when the fixtures pressure "that paid administrators should have seen coming" came about.

Hopefully alot of clubs will rearrange these matches themselves whenever the ACHL fixtures dry up in June
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Post by: NAG on April 23, 2008, 10:28:09 AM
Well said Skull

How can our paid administrators for hurling in Ulster not have forseen this problem?
Its not like there is so much going on developing in Ulster Hurling that this problem couldnt have been avoided.
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Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 23, 2008, 10:30:43 AM
Hopefully alot of clubs will rearrange these matches themselves whenever the ACHL fixtures dry up in June
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Aye, but will they fill the gap, which normally goes on till October / November time, given that the championships will be on a knock-out basis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 23, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Don't start me on the paid admin >:( >:(, there's definitely nothing to stop the clubs involved getting their heads together to refix at a more suitable time. There will be enough times in the season when we will be glad of a game. Needs to be sorted out sooner rather than later though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 25, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
What are the fixtures like this weekend?
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Post by: Minder on April 25, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 25, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
What are the fixtures like this weekend?

Glenariffe v Dunloy is the big one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 25, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
Dunloy worked with them handy enough in the Ul did they not with half a team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2008, 12:01:25 PM
Aye i was only saying that as i know a few fellas that play for Glenariffe, Glenariffe were leading for most of the game but the arse fell out of them from what i heard. I hear Neil Mc Manus left the Bot in an ambulance the other night after a bout of fisticuffs.
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Post by: milltown row on April 25, 2008, 12:05:12 PM
a bit of irony me thinks, Cushendun is our game this weekend and our seconds take on the Lamhs.

could win both

Think Dunloy will do well this year, under 21's doing well and good scoring in league and UHL.
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Post by: NAG on April 25, 2008, 12:36:22 PM
Minder

where did you hear that? I suppose he isnt on the county panel at the moment so he can do what he wants.

Must have been a right row, not like the Bot
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Post by: maxpower on April 25, 2008, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 25, 2008, 11:58:55 AM
Dunloy worked with them handy enough in the Ul did they not with half a team?

Dunloy understandably struggled with Glenariffe in the UL game played out in bitter cold conditions on our second field which certainly isn't the best for hurling on. 

Glenarriffe led at half time by 4 points and stretched that to 7 early in the second half before our boys made a fist of it, we owned the last 20 mins but the first 40mins were a real struggle,
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Post by: NAG on April 25, 2008, 01:24:52 PM
Hardstation

If your a material witness then you can give the correct version here then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
Neil is a good lad but he has definetley developed a bit of a trait for looking for fights in the last couple of years, when Antrim played Limerick in the relegation play off last year he continually asked his man to stop playing and "fight me", he also told him he was gonna "get him" after the match, you can imagine what the Limerick player thought. I dont think i have heard someone tell somebody they were gonna get them after a match since a primary school blitz i was involved in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2008, 01:55:57 PM
One of the Glenariffe players has used it that line over the last couple of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 25, 2008, 01:57:28 PM
is it just me or do they let anybody into Colleges.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2008, 02:00:34 PM
 :) :) Milltown you got me there. I didnt go to college.

Meant he has used that line twice over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 25, 2008, 02:33:31 PM
no two hands i was talking about the Antrim star that got his pan knocked in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 25, 2008, 02:36:03 PM
His back must be giving him some trouble, i would have thought he could handle himself rightly esp with a few in him in the bot.

I alwyas thought i was jackie chan after i had a few in me!
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2008, 03:00:18 PM
Anyway enough fightinhg talk. U21's this weekend. I'd say Loughgiel & Dunloy will be favourites to go through to the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2008, 03:12:52 PM
I think as Hardstation said initially the fight was over very conclusively the first time before he came back for afters..........
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Post by: maxpower on April 25, 2008, 04:24:43 PM
Sake, won't comment on the fight as its impossible to know why these things started and what has happened before.  I take it from the fact he was in the bot that he definately  was never going to play any part in this u21 game at the weekend. 

You hear that many stories of player being injured and miraclously recovering for championship game you just never know what to believe.  He'd be a huge loss to the team which will no doubt help Dunloy who themselves aren't without injury concerns and missing players.

should be a cracker of a game and don't expect more than a score between the two sides with it going either way.
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Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2008, 03:54:22 PM
Is there any games on this weekend? whats the weather looking like?
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Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 26, 2008, 04:32:31 PM
I no it's not the most attractive fixture, but bredagh are playing mcdermotts at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 26, 2008, 06:22:41 PM
Dunloy V Cushendall in the semi final of the u21 hurling championship today
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Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2008, 08:37:38 PM
How it the mcderrmotts game go?

whats the result of the u21 semi? anyone at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 26, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
Cushendall 2-18 Dunloy 5-15 Result
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Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2008, 08:50:51 PM
wow, did the dall opt to play with 4 full backs and no keeper?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 26, 2008, 08:52:19 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 26, 2008, 08:50:51 PM
wow, did the dall opt to play with 4 full backs and no keeper?

Dunno, just heard the result. Wasnt much "d" as the yanks would say........
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Post by: youngfella on April 26, 2008, 09:30:48 PM
doesnt sound a classic, but good points haul by both teams tho. who was in the other semi final ?
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 26, 2008, 09:31:16 PM
That was after Extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 27, 2008, 11:09:08 AM
Told a lie, it was creggan. bredagh won by a bit. any interesting fixtures this afternoon in the leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 27, 2008, 06:53:06 PM
Glenariffe 1-17 Dunloy 4-13
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Post by: aontroim on April 28, 2008, 09:02:23 AM
Antrim Hurling Div 1

Ballycastle  4-8 v 3-12 Cushendall
Ballygalget  0-12 v 0-23 Loughgiel
Glenariff  1-17 v 4-13 Dunloy
Portaferry  0-11 v 0-14 St. Johns

Antrim Hurling Reserve D1

Portaferry  1-9 v 1-14 St. Johns

Antrim Hurling Div 2-3
 
Glenravel  0-8 v 1-8 Sarsfields
Rasharkin  1-7 v 2-18 Tir na Nog
Rossa  0-10 v 0-10 St. Pauls
Ballycran  3-19 v 0-6 Shane O Neills
Armoy  1-16 v 2-10 Lamh Dhearg
Cloughmills  0-11 v 0-20 Gort Na Mona
Carey Faughs  2-9 v 3-13 Gaeil Chluana

Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
 
Ballymena  2-12 v 3-13 St. Agnes
Lamh Dhearg 2 0-13 v 1-10 St. Galls 2
St. Teresas  3-25 v 2-5 Ardoyne

Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008

Larne  3-10 v 2-2 St. Brigids (B )
Sarsfields 2 2-9 v 4-10 Davitts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 28, 2008, 09:13:16 AM
St Johns look like staying up, looks like Glenariff and Ballycastle will be fighting it out for the dreaded drop.

we scraped past Cushendun up there on Sunday, think we were always in front but some soft goals in the second half brought Cushendun back into the game. not at game so cant give a better account of the game.

any othe reports out there.

we played Loughgiel at our pitch on Sat night. do they ever travel with a bad team? they came down to our pitch with nearly 30 players!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 28, 2008, 09:13:16 AM
St Johns look like staying up, looks like Glenariff and Ballycastle will be fighting it out for the dreaded drop.

we scraped past Cushendun up there on Sunday, think we were always in front but some soft goals in the second half brought Cushendun back into the game. not at game so cant give a better account of the game.

any othe reports out there.

we played Loughgiel at our pitch on Sat night. do they ever travel with a bad team? they came down to our pitch with nearly 30 players!!!!!!!!

They play each other in Ballycastle on Wednesday night, Glenariffe are shipping a lot of goals at the minute, mind you their first three matches have been Loughguile, Cushendall (UL) and Dunloy so it can only get easier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
When Glenariff focus on the ball the are a handy enough side. Plenty of good stick men on display for youse yesterday Minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 28, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
When Glenariff focus on the ball the are a handy enough side. Plenty of good stick men on display for youse yesterday Minder.

Aye we have the forwards but we are putting square pegs into round holes a bit at the back, we have no FB. Gettens played there yesterday but is a halfback or midfielder. Dunloy always seemed to have things well in hand, big match against the Town on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on April 28, 2008, 11:50:27 AM
massive result for Armoy (Armoy 1-16 V 2-10 Lamh Dhearg) - very surprised at that!

I'm also surprised at Rossa only drawing with St Paul's.

Ballycran seem to be setting out a stall and in light of the everyone's results in the first 2 games, I'd make them favourites to top the division.  Some teams are saying they're too good for that division - they seem to be setting about proving it!

We had a good win down in Carey and one of their goals came from a pretty bad defensive mistake so it should have been bigger!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
I hear things were hot and heavy at the St Johns v Portaferry match, full scale riot and spectators involved. Its funny how these sort of incidents follow St Johns about........I hear it was dirty enough the whole way through then everyone dropped the sticks for a punch up, everyone except Mc Fall who stood back and drew off his mans head with his stick. It takes a big man to do that though........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
I hear things were hot and heavy at the St Johns v Portaferry match, full scale riot and spectators involved. Its funny how these sort of incidents follow St Johns about........I hear it was dirty enough the whole way through then everyone dropped the sticks for a punch up, everyone except Mc Fall who stood back and drew off his mans head with his stick. It takes a big man to do that though........

It's true enough and the way you described it is roughly the same description I was given. I actually think it all kicked off just after the final whistle.

At the same time the bodies were giving our lads a lesson in point taking, especially winker, we could do nothing with him. A bit of soul searching to be done in galget land in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 28, 2008, 12:24:21 PM
he's good when on the ball (winker) though i think he slightly over carries the ball in my opinion. he scored some good points way out on the wing against us on sat night.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 28, 2008, 12:53:56 PM
Get the ould refereeing kit on, Milltown, & blow him up for it !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 28, 2008, 12:54:40 PM
I hope the coward from the Johnnies had his name taken and gets put out for a long time. If he pulled round someones head with a stick on the street he's be arrested and charged.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
I hear things were hot and heavy at the St Johns v Portaferry match, full scale riot and spectators involved. Its funny how these sort of incidents follow St Johns about........I hear it was dirty enough the whole way through then everyone dropped the sticks for a punch up, everyone except Mc Fall who stood back and drew off his mans head with his stick. It takes a big man to do that though........


Assuming that this is true and he actually swung the stick deliberately with force across a mans head
Well, when it's a family tradition, you have to keep it going I suppose. History repeating itself. The lowest of the low

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 28, 2008, 01:26:48 PM
Who got the line for the johnnies then?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 28, 2008, 01:29:19 PM
Earlier quote : "I actually think it all kicked off just after the final whistle".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 28, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 28, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
I hear things were hot and heavy at the St Johns v Portaferry match, full scale riot and spectators involved. Its funny how these sort of incidents follow St Johns about........I hear it was dirty enough the whole way through then everyone dropped the sticks for a punch up, everyone except Mc Fall who stood back and drew off his mans head with his stick. It takes a big man to do that though........


Assuming that this is true and he actually swung the stick deliberately with force across a mans head
Well, when it's a family tradition, you have to keep it going I suppose. History repeating itself. The lowest of the low


I heard on good authority that the fella he hit was wearing helmet/faceguard but his stick broke the faceguard and left him with a nice split on his head. The johhnies didnt even go back to the changing rooms, they just jumped into their cars and headed home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 28, 2008, 02:30:09 PM
Im too young to that HS what happened?

I mind few years ago karl mckegan drew round a boys head in loughgiel, cant mind who they were playing. I think county championship time and he was straight red and banned for 3 weeks, system is a joke if you are on or near the county panel or Better still if you know big eugene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2008, 02:13:16 PM
If his name was noted for pulling the stick on someone's head, how long will he get? They'd have to throw the book at him. Heat of the moment and all, but how could you lash someone over the head with a hurl? Remember the Sambo incident? Fcuk me, that was scary. The silence was unbelievable.

That was about as bad/cowardly a stroke as i have seen on a hurling field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Why were you not at the Dunloy match Groundlie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Certainly to do with yesterday! I'm not going to acclaim a thug after that!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 28, 2008, 03:10:49 PM
Youngfella...Karl didnt draw round a fella's head in Loughgiel. He hit James McKeague but it was certainly alot lower than the head. He deserved to get sent off & I think he served around 6 weeks in the end reduced in the end through the appeal(could be wrong). But I actually think the system has improved since then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Certainly to do with yesterday! I'm not going to acclaim a thug after that!!

Was the mellee after the final whistle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Certainly to do with yesterday! I'm not going to acclaim a thug after that!!

Was the mellee after the final whistle?



No just before the final whistle, jc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Certainly to do with yesterday! I'm not going to acclaim a thug after that!!

Was the mellee after the final whistle?



No just before the final whistle, jc

Who was the referee?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 28, 2008, 05:21:44 PM
What kinda training do ya have to do to become a hurling referee? was thinking about it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 28, 2008, 05:55:49 PM
Ta HS, be good to give something back. Was looking on the Gaa's webshite and there not alot promoting referee development
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 28, 2008, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 28, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Certainly to do with yesterday! I'm not going to acclaim a thug after that!!

Was the mellee after the final whistle?



No just before the final whistle, jc

Who was the referee?
It sounds like a Deccy Magee production.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 28, 2008, 09:38:55 PM
Here's the fixtures for this week. Refs are named. Remember the name!!

Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008

Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Portaferry  Ballygalget  Portaferry 30/04/2008 19:00 Magee Declan   
Dunloy  Cushendall  Dunloy 30/04/2008 19:00 Duffy Garrett   
Loughgiel  St. Johns  Loughgiel Shamrocks 30/04/2008 19:00 Elliott Owen   
Ballycastle  Glenariff  Ballycastle 30/04/2008 19:00 Donnolly Liam   
Portaferry  Cushendall  Portaferry 04/05/2008 15:00 Robinson Gerard   

Antrim Hurling Reserve D1
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Portaferry  Ballygalget  Portaferry 29/04/2008 19:00 Quinn Liam   
Dunloy  Cushendall  Dunloy 29/04/2008 19:00 O'Connell Mick   
Portaferry  Cushendall  Portaferry 04/05/2008 13:30 O'Flynn Cathal
   
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Gaeil Chluana  Glenravel  Ahoghill 30/04/2008 19:00 McKillop John   
Gort Na Mona  Carey Faughs  Gort Na Mona 30/04/2008 19:00 Robinson Gerard   
Lamh Dhearg  Cloughmills  Lamh Dhearg 30/04/2008 19:00 Reilly Terry   
St. Galls  Ballycran  St. Galls 30/04/2008 19:00 Matthews Ray   
St. Pauls  Cushendun  St. Pauls 30/04/2008 19:00 Torney Hugh   
Tir na Nog  Rossa  Tir na Nog 30/04/2008 19:00 Wells Terence   
Sarsfields  Rasharkin  Patrick Sarsfields 30/04/2008 19:00 Quinn Liam
   
Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
St. Endas  Ballymena  St. Endas 30/04/2008 19:00 McQuillan Paddy   
Ardoyne  St. Galls 2 Mallusk 30/04/2008 19:00 Willoughby Sean   
St. Agnes  Lamh Dhearg 2 St. Agnes 30/04/2008 19:00 McGrath Davy
   
Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Sean McDermotts  Bredagh  Boucher Road 30/04/2008 19:00 Murray Sean   
St. Brigids (B ) Davitts  St. Brigids 30/04/2008 19:00 Reid James   
Creggan Gaels  Larne  Creggan Gaels 30/04/2008 19:00 Leech Malachy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 29, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Can any of or contributors give anymore detail regarding the Johnnies and their problems understanding dates of birth. This seems to be a problem with the Feile  competition and managers not being able to recognise if someone is 15 or 14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on April 29, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 29, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Can any of or contributors give anymore detail regarding the Johnnies and their problems understanding dates of birth. This seems to be a problem with the Feile  competition and managers not being able to recognise if someone is 15 or 14

For feck's sake, if they're not fighting, they're fielding over age players. What next??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 29, 2008, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 29, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Can any of or contributors give anymore detail regarding the Johnnies and their problems understanding dates of birth. This seems to be a problem with the Feile  competition and managers not being able to recognise if someone is 15 or 14

And there's me thinking you frankies got your taches a lot earlier than us country bumpkins  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 29, 2008, 01:09:34 PM
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If they are caught the whole club should be suspended. That type of cheating has no place in the GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 29, 2008, 02:52:47 PM
They maybe entered their U21 team into the feile??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 29, 2008, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 28, 2008, 05:21:44 PM
What kinda training do ya have to do to become a hurling referee? was thinking about it!

Good luck with the refereeing. Thought this might help you. ;D

Referees Prayer

Before we take the field we pray,

Save us from abuse today.

Save us from disgruntled fans,

From bottles, toilet rolls and cans.

Give my legs the speed to keep the pace,

For the middle of the park is a lonely place.

When the game is over if disaster looms,

Guide us safely to the Dressing Rooms.

Protect my linesmen true and tall,

Let their eyes be sharp for the "off the ball."

To the lads in the dug out seething and fumin',

Remember lads we're only human.

Protect my umpires with their coats so bright,

Let their greens be green and their whites be white.

Let their eye and their vision be straight and true,

Let their errors, if any, be small and few.

And when at last our time is o'er.

And we're waiting at St.Peter's door,

He'll say "come in lads" with eyes full of glee,

"For your hell was on earth, you're the Referee.

P.O'Nuallain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 30, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
no talk about tonights games lads? for us it's make or break with Ardoyne in div 4.......... oh sorry our seniors play Ballycran at Milltown tonight game for 7.  think it's a bit unfair for Ballycran coming up for that time but that's the way it goes. this could go a long in deciding who gets the one promotion place available.

we may slip up in the odd game but Ballycran wont. so should they win tonight i cant see them dropping any points the rest off the season. Glenariff play Ballycastle, another game that'll decide that league me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2008, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 30, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
no talk about tonights games lads? for us it's make or break with Ardoyne in div 4.......... oh sorry our seniors play Ballycran at Milltown tonight game for 7.  think it's a bit unfair for Ballycran coming up for that time but that's the way it goes. this could go a long in deciding who gets the one promotion place available.

we may slip up in the odd game but Ballycran wont. so should they win tonight i cant see them dropping any points the rest off the season. Glenariff play Ballycastle, another game that'll decide that league me thinks

Its looking that way, i didnt think The Johnnies would pick up those 4 pts as quickly. I dont think Portaferry and Ballygalget are as strong this year so there may be points there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
So first impressions of the 8 team league lads? I reckon teams are a bit more focused

feel free to reply as well milltown  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 30, 2008, 05:51:31 PM
Just got a call from a mate who referees. Gerry McC has txt all refs telling them not to post on GAA discussion boards! Any body know no why? My mate has no idea, thats why he called me. Anybody on here a ref?

As for the 8 team Div 1, it does focus minds and make every game important. I'm more annoyed about the 16 team Div 2/3!  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 30, 2008, 06:49:15 PM
strange alright, wonder how they're going to police it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Well they can f**king keep their nose out and keep to their own communist official site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2008, 09:20:13 PM
Ballycastle 1-10 Glenariffe 1-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 10:08:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 28, 2008, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2008, 02:13:16 PM
If his name was noted for pulling the stick on someone's head, how long will he get? They'd have to throw the book at him. Heat of the moment and all, but how could you lash someone over the head with a hurl? Remember the Sambo incident? Fcuk me, that was scary. The silence was unbelievable.

That was about as bad/cowardly a stroke as i have seen on a hurling field.

What exactly did Sambo do that time. i heard he attacked the sub bench or something but have never heard the proper story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2008, 10:34:27 PM
The story was that the B'castle boy called Sambo a "stuttering c**t" and Sambo just saw red and wound round the guys head. A bad incident and I think it did some damage to the boy but to be fair to Sambo it was completely out of character and I think he was very sorry he did it and never did the like of it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 10:56:51 PM
Was there not a story of him attacking a sub bench or something in a championship game. maybe i didnt catch the story right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2008, 11:02:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2008, 10:34:27 PM
The story was that the B'castle boy called Sambo a "stuttering c**t" and Sambo just saw red and wound round the guys head. A bad incident and I think it did some damage to the boy but to be fair to Sambo it was completely out of character and I think he was very sorry he did it and never did the like of it again.

The fact that it was out of character is irrelevant, it was an atrocious, gutless stroke and he could have done some serious damage. If that had of happened on the street he would have been up in court.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
Yep - sorry maybe sounded like I was justifying it.

It was awful. He just flipped.

I don't recall anything with a sub bench other than I think the B'castle sub bench were all trying to have a go at him on the way off.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2008, 08:26:57 AM
Yes Skull the div 1 is a lot more focused than in previous years, I'd be happier if they dropped two teams instead of one, well after last night game against Ballycran I can see only one winner in that league, but I'm sure we'll push on through as they will change the leagues next year as usual.

The div2/3 league is also very focused with some strange results which will also make for competitive Championships, as teams will be hurling with more intensity.

I cant comment on our game last night as I was playing the mighty Ardoyne in a basement battle thriller which we edged out a win, over at the National Gaelic Ground that is Mallusk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 01, 2008, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2008, 07:10:37 PM
Also strange that this has come about after I told youngfella that we have a few refs on here..............or not.

To be fair, as far as I know, the text didn't refer to this site at all, it specifically mentioned an Antrim refereeing thread on another site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM
any you boys seen this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7375867.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7375867.stm) looks like the excuses have began before the first ball has being pucked. Feel sorry for the young fella tho, but as Sambo says: I remember once playing for Antrim minors, under-21s and the senior all in the same day."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 01, 2008, 09:25:22 AM
Jaysus the county board have the big nose in everywere. they must have appointed Head of Monitoring Online Forum's for the Protection of Referees or the HMOFPR.


Like any referees would be caught up in an online slanging match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 AM
Quote from: youngfella on May 01, 2008, 09:21:10 AM
any you boys seen this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7375867.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7375867.stm) looks like the excuses have began before the first ball has being pucked. Feel sorry for the young fella tho, but as Sambo says: I remember once playing for Antrim minors, under-21s and the senior all in the same day."

Sambo and a soundbyte.......who would have thought?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 01, 2008, 09:50:31 AM
Maybe, its safe to say he has lost the dressing room. Its about time kev mc gort, had a rant hes being quiet these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2008, 09:54:10 AM
i'm still confused as to how Kevin can train with the county hurling team and as yet not struck a ball for his club team.

three league games and three ulster hurling matches have been played and he has yet to play. Does Shambo know this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 01, 2008, 10:07:39 AM
I saw that soundbyte from sambo the other day and i was astounded at the ego. I am not shocked but for someone to come out and say that when the article was mainly about players injuries says alot about the man.

Milltown

You cannot play for your county unless you are at least making yourself available to your club for club games when called on. To have him there is a joke in the first place and fgor him not to be turning out for ye is even worse. I have watched him hurl in the past and he is unreal, his first touch is so bad his second is a tackle and his striking is abysmal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 01, 2008, 09:54:10 AM
i'm still confused as to how Kevin can train with the county hurling team and as yet not struck a ball for his club team.

three league games and three ulster hurling matches have been played and he has yet to play. Does Shambo know this?

:o :o jesus. You're joking milltown. Seems to me that these lads love the name more than the game itself.

NAG...you never know what editing the article had before it was printed. He may have been asked a direct question about over training injuries. Not a classy reply I'd have to say, but on the more general point I'd tend to agree with him (if that was the question he was answering)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 01, 2008, 11:46:08 AM
Skull
Im not arguing that his point may have been correct in that maybe there was too much too soon for the two lads involved but to turn that around to a comment about himself is typical of his self publicity.

I am hearing that all is not well in the camp and that he has not been attending the training in recent weeks, woody has been there on his own. Im not suprised when you look at the squad at the moment must be very demoralising being in there at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 01, 2008, 11:50:49 AM
Time for humpy to come back. wonder would he even entertain the idea?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on May 01, 2008, 12:38:13 PM
QuoteI heard on good authority that the fella he hit was wearing helmet/faceguard but his stick broke the faceguard and left him with a nice split on his head. The johhnies didnt even go back to the changing rooms, they just jumped into their cars and headed home.

Minder, who did he hit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 01, 2008, 12:38:13 PM
QuoteI heard on good authority that the fella he hit was wearing helmet/faceguard but his stick broke the faceguard and left him with a nice split on his head. The johhnies didnt even go back to the changing rooms, they just jumped into their cars and headed home.

Minder, who did he hit?

His missus works with the big man, ask Tony Baloney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on May 01, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
Aye, I was just checking if thats who you were on about as I heard someone else was also drilled and not only the aforementioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2008, 12:47:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 30, 2008, 09:33:10 PM
Antrim website has it 2-07 - 1-07 for Ballycastle.
Lougheil beat the Johnnies
Randalstown hammered Rossa
Ballycran beat St.Gall's.


The ports beat us by two points last night, absolutely chronic game and considering we only scored 2-4 we're in deep doo doo's. Need to get regrouped very quickly if we are to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2008, 01:06:11 PM
I'm telling you boys, it must be a real ball breaker to manage Antrim teams. History keeps repeating itself and whenever positive strides don't happen really quickly OR setbacks happen..the players run for cover instead of understanding that that their very attitude is exactly why we are so far down the pile. Independent of who is managing Antrim players, the players need to commitment to squad training or the management team have nothing to go on. Sambo & Woody are massive Antrim men and I'm sure want nothing more than to send out committed players onto the pitch every time. Players willy nilling with training whenever a few results go against them, tells me a lot about the psyche of the individuals that are representing this County and have done for many years. Yes poor management can affect player attitude, but surely we can't always blame the management (although I have serious issues with the expectation levels set by the current management)? Players need grow some balls and play their part to work these through.

I take it they'll be no Antrim players getting a grant this year (isn't it dependent on you attending a certain number of training sessions?)

Which opens another question: Is there a chance that the grants system will be a demotivating factor to county player who knows that they will just fall under the threshold for getting the grant?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 01, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
As far as I am aware Neil McManus, Neil McAuley, Cormac Donnelly and CJ McGourty have all suffered from back injuries while all in their teens ( not certain about McGourty). All these lads came through the Antrim development squads at roughly the same time and presumably with similar training schedules. I would be very nervous that perhaps some of the young guys are being pushed into too many weights too early and causing themselves long term injuries. Its all very well talking about what happened back in the seventies/eighties but in those days no teams did the type of weights/ fitness work that is being done now. Does anyone know what input physios have in designing fitness regimes for young hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2008, 03:51:03 PM
McGourty was more hip related as far as I know.

I would fully agree with your points about the training SCB. Questions would have to be asked. You may notice as well a lot of Tyrone posters commenting on the injuries their teams have and how they are not just unlucky but could be more to do with the training patterns and the lack of an "educated" trainer. I think the same could apply here. I remember the hurlers had weights programs made out for them the other year but can't mind who made them out. They're all the same age these boys so have they been following the same programs?

Sambo's point about playing 3 games in one day, IMO, would be nonsense given the volume of physical training done now compared to then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 01, 2008, 11:21:20 PM
What i don't get about our current Antrim management is why are they not keeping their heads down in terms of senior for at least the next couple of years and putting all their efforts in to the u21 championship this year? The minor team of 05 should have beaten Limerick and the 06 tean ran Galway, Joe Canning included, very close. Why not make a big effort at u21 for a change when there is a half decent squad there? Maybe they are doing this by completely ignoring up to now and then come July Sambo will spring them to an Ulster title against Derry!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 02, 2008, 08:33:01 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 01, 2008, 12:38:13 PM
QuoteI heard on good authority that the fella he hit was wearing helmet/faceguard but his stick broke the faceguard and left him with a nice split on his head. The johhnies didnt even go back to the changing rooms, they just jumped into their cars and headed home.

Minder, who did he hit?

His missus works with the big man, ask Tony Baloney

Forgot to say, I was told the other night by someone from Portaferry who was at the game with the Johnnies and he felt that it was one of their own players who instigated the whole thing, but what McFall got up to during it was really uncalled for.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
I hear he was acting the maggot the other night after the Loughguile v St Johns match, him and Ding Gillan were slabbering to each other during the match and when they were going into the changing rooms after it Kung Fu Mc Fall aimed a kick at Gillan but he saw it coming and got his retaliation in first and hung one on Mc Fall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 02, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
Good man Ding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
Ding and McFall...two peas in a pod IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2008, 02:12:19 PM
Are St Johns mirroring the 'Dirty Dubs' of Antrim Hurling? Since there new manager has taken over (the one who cant work out if a kid is 14 or 15) they have been in a dust up in every game.  They must be playing the siege mentality card everyone hates us we don't care blah blah blah.

Will this win them the Championship? Can the Shamrocker on the site give us a match report?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2008, 03:11:19 PM
Re: U14s
milltown are you sure that wasn't a genuine mistake?

On the general question. It will not take either the Johnnies or the authorities long to become battle weary if they attempt to keep it up. Delusioned if they think that they could intimidate their way to county title. 
Title: St Johns
Post by: Shamrock on May 02, 2008, 06:35:36 PM
Regarding a few snide remarks about Ding - firstly how you can put Ding in the same sentence as McFall in a joke. Im not going to slate any man on here as its too easy to hide behind this computer. So im just going to mention Ding - to me hes a tough lad, who plays hard and tough. He takes his slaps and gives them out. But isnt a mouth. The other night was typical! not going to comment on what happened, as im sure you all would love to know, but lets say Ding got into his car, and was ok!

St Johns give us a tough game. They are much improved and have a bit of pace up front - hard to work with. we were missing a few, with our u-21's not availaible due to final with Dunloy. St Johns didnt try to rough it up, as we thougt they would. We have 3 wins under the belt but as we well know it means zero. Wer after one thing and one thing only - and only time will tell........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 04, 2008, 02:29:56 PM
howdy,

any games or match reports this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 04, 2008, 05:25:42 PM
U21 final last night

Possibly not one for the purist but for such a low scoring game it was a hell of a contest last night. Real backs to the wall stuff for our defense who to a man were outstanding. Forwards really took the game to loughgiel in the first half against the breeze but down to only 14 men, they struggled with it as they had 2 extra men in defense. To win the competition with 5 good players missing from the squad through injury/suspension was a fantastic achievement from a team who got humiliated by a good ballycastle team only 7 months ago.  Absolutely over the moon with the commitment and heart shown yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 04, 2008, 06:30:11 PM
Fair do's skull, sounds like a good win against the shams. the wind sounds like the a nightmare. What was the atomsphere like? must being a bit sicking for the lads from the town to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 06, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
I have to say was impressed with Dunloy in the final on saturday evening.

Even they're smaller lighter players were making big tackles and turning their loughgiel opponents.

What is the loughgiel perspective on the game I would have thought that they were extremely disappointed that they couldnt get passed a dunloy team blighted with injuries?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 06, 2008, 12:27:51 PM
The Dunloy defense was immense, real bodies on the line stuff. The younger lads really showed their mettle particularly young McKeague. The shams were far from cute the way they used their extra man. I know Paddy doc ripped it up in the 1st half but it was clear early on in the 2nd that he wouldn't need marshalled so well. The extra man in attack would have made more gains IMO. But you have to get it all right on the night, even after losing a man Dunloy looked better drilled and more confident.
Title: Re: St Johns
Post by: theskull1 on May 06, 2008, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on May 02, 2008, 06:35:36 PM
So im just going to mention Ding - to me hes a tough lad, who plays hard and tough. He takes his slaps and gives them out. But isnt a mouth.

Well I would say
He gives out slaps and as a result gets a few back from people who would have otherwise have played hurling. You're almost implying that this is OK because he isn't a mouth. Ding is not a bad fellow just like McFall off the pitch, but we're not talking about that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 06, 2008, 12:52:29 PM
Ding is a indicator of what is wrong with the loughgiel club at present. He has had so many roastings in the past and yet he is kept on their team because he is percieved to be a hard man.

I think the lessons are not being learned in loughgiel from the experiences in recent championship.
But that is up to them only an observation from an outsider!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on May 06, 2008, 05:02:20 PM
Lads - give me any championship match over the past 2 years where Ding has got a roasting?? I cant think of any. In my opinion he rarely lets the team down in big matches. But what would i know, you dunloy lads are the experts :-[

very disappointing on saturday night. Some of our so called hot prospects didnt deliver. Dunloy were the better drilled team, and fully deserved there win. Were at a serious cross roads as a club. I hope that we can get ourselves sorted and try to get over the finish line. I firmly believe were not far away........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 07, 2008, 12:01:21 PM
Shamrock

What do you see as the finish line?

I think it can be unhealthy for a club to focus solely on one goal and that is the way success or failure is measured.

Only one team can be champions in any given year, if loughgiel had put the correct structures in place to learn and develop on from the final defeats they would have already taken on board the lessons and been successful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 07, 2008, 01:25:57 PM
Just another question when im here.

Why is Sean Delargy still ccounty captain and are Dunloy not up in arms at not having one of their county boys as captain especially since this is their Centenary year?

sure this is a longstanding tradition as far as i can remember back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Good point NAG, i may have to bring it up on the official Antrim guestbook.......I can just see the reply from Johnny Ping - "mind your own f*cking business, its of no concern to you. We will always stand up to unsubstantiated internet rumour and innuendo and perhaps you should run along back to whatever internet gossip shop you usually post on"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 07, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
It has been tradition in Antrim but maybe S & W pick their own captain..remember Colm Duffin was their minor captain in their first year in charge of the minors...& Tir na Nog were definately not minor champions!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 07, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
It has been tradition in Antrim but maybe S & W pick their own captain..remember Colm Duffin was their minor captain in their first year in charge of the minors...& Tir na Nog were definately not minor champions!!

I dont think it has ever been tradition with the minors but it certainly has with the seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 07, 2008, 02:00:26 PM
Im nearly sure that it has been a set - in - stone kind of tradition for the antrim seniors

what does that say about the Dunloy players involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 07, 2008, 02:06:00 PM
Unless they werent sure who from Dunloy would be on the squad. Malachy Molloy had retired, there was some doubt over Paddy Richmond & it would be a bit much for Shorty to be made captain at such a young age. Again..i'm just guessing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2008, 02:14:38 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/guestbook/


Thats that cleared up..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 07, 2008, 02:40:45 PM
Never was suggesting it was a hard and fast rule.

Tradition has sometimes been more important than rules anyway and I would hazard a guess that it is the first time this has happened in more than 25 years.

Something is wrong with this call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 09, 2008, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 08, 2008, 05:09:18 PM
Championship 15 in's and outs for our seniors/minors please boys and girls?

Antrim Minor Hurling Panel (Championship 08)

Training this Sunday 11th MAY 9.30am @ Ballymena Rugby Club, bus leaves Casement at 8.30am 

1       Selected        Adrian  Downey  St Johns       
2       Selected        Brendan Mc Givern       St Endas       
3       Selected        Mark Lynch      Lamh Dhearg   
4       Selected        Conor Mc Clelland       Gortnamona     
5       Selected        John Kerr       Rossa 
6       Selected        Stephen Shannon Rossa 
7       Selected        Mathew Devlin   Rossa 
8       Selected        Conor Rocks     Rossa 
9       Selected        Michael Armstrong       Rossa 
10      Selected        Christopher Mc Guinness Rossa 
11      Selected        Kevin Mc Donald Oisins
12      Selected        Arron Cosgrove  Oisins
13      Selected        Peter Mc Keague Dunloy
14      Selected        Chris Kearns    Dunloy
15      Selected        James Doherty   St Brendan's   
16      Selected        Michael Devlin  St Brendan's   
17      Selected        Mark Donaghy    Ruairi Óg     
18      Selected        Eoin Gillen     Ruairi Óg     
19      Selected        Terry Mc Allister       Ruairi Óg     
20      Selected        Gerard Laverty  Mc Quillians   
21      Selected        Peter Dallat    Mc Quillians   
22      Selected        Michael Dallat  Mc Quillians   
23      Selected        Seamus Dobbin   Shamrocks     
24      Selected        Chris Quinn     Shamrocks     
25      Selected        Tony Mc Closkey Shamrocks     
26      Selected        Turlough Mc Carry       Shamrocks     
27      Selected        Ciaran Mc Kinley        Shamrocks     
28      Selected        Carlin Coyle    Shamrocks   

from the county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2008, 07:21:37 PM
A lot of rossa players,who is the manager this year. . . . . ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Who is John Campbell, Hardstation? Did the person that asked the question on the Antrim site get told to mind their own business?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2008, 07:54:46 PM
Gerry Cosgrove from glenariffe has his son Aaron on the panel! You always get a bit of nepotism on the minor panels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 09, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 09, 2008, 07:54:46 PM
Gerry Cosgrove from glenariffe has his son Aaron on the panel! You always get a bit of nepotism on the minor panels

I think it's more to do with who is prepared to put in the time. If your son is on the panel it's easier to justify giving up the time to travel the country for matches and training sessions. I don't know any of the people involved. That's just my experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 09, 2008, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 09, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Who is John Campbell, Hardstation? Did the person that asked the question on the Antrim site get told to mind their own business?

He's as passionate a loughgiel hurling man as you'll meet. Would have thought most NA people would have known John. One thing which may make it difficult to place him is the fact he is NOT a mouth, although that should make him stand out a bit on the east terrace of healy park  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2008, 09:44:11 PM
I know Loughguile have a few coarse supporters but are they really any worse than other clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 09, 2008, 10:04:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2008, 09:49:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 09, 2008, 09:44:11 PM
I know Loughguile have a few coarse supporters but are they really any worse than other clubs?
Unless other clubs' supporters jump the fence to attack minors, then yes.
Jumping the fence is not just a Loughguile phenomenon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2008, 04:28:07 PM
U14 Feile Finals in Dunloy today

Feile B
Dunloy beat Creggan handy enough. Huge improvement from our U14's from last year. Credit to all involved as they have made great strides. The Creggan team did look on the youngish side so I'm sure they'll benefit from todays final as they did look to have decent stickwork in places.

Feile A
St Johns beat St Brendans in a closer contest, but one which the Johnnies always looked to be in control of and indeed they did pull away towards the end. Very impressed with them. Tight stickwork all over their team as well as some very intelligent team play for 14 year olds. Remains to be seen whether they'll be able to play in the AI Feile. It doesn't seem right to punish a group of young lads who had nothing to do with the decisions of the past, but as a club St Johns have to be punished. Shameful behaviour. St Brendans fought all the way and I seriously hope these amalgamations bring serious benefits to the smaller clubs down the line

Anyway.....all credit to all sides today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 10, 2008, 04:42:41 PM

Indeed you're right. There is another club who have a reputation for this but I don't think they're as bad. Whatever came of that Loughiel Rossa thing where 3 Rossa minors were put in hospital after getting a kicking from grown men who jumped the fence?
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Jesus thats a disgrace, when was that? Shamrock are the boys invovled still allowed to attend matches? were the youngfellas ok?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 10, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Thats a disgree tis in the same league as sambo's dirty stroke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2008, 05:40:04 PM
Glenariffe beat Portaferry by a point today to gain their first points,last 3 league times we have played them it has been a draw,one pt win for portaferry and today 1 pt win for Glenariffe,i believe the commemorative dvd of these clashes will be in hmv this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2008, 09:19:53 PM
The st galls result must be 3-15 with a typo - Milltown can you confirm?

Interesting to see GNM beat Ahoghill. Looks like possibly between them and Ballycran for division 2. Did I read right that Randalstown beat Rossa??

Loughgiel beat Cushendall easy this evening I see. I think Cushendall sound to be decimated with injuries / people going stateside this year though and as with Loughgiel maybe a bit early to read too much into their form.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2008, 10:36:03 PM
Loughguile beat Cushendall easily,i was talking to a fella that was at it and he said the Dall "couldnt have give two fucks whether they won or not",i think Sean Delargys stag do last night may have affected them today. . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 11, 2008, 11:50:50 PM
Further information on the Centre of Excellence including a Video Flythrough:

http://antrim.gaa.ie/centre-of-excellence/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 12, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
yes the scoreline was 3.15 to 1.12

i was not at game but they only pulled away with 10 minutes to go.

Jody pulled a flanker and had the Senior footballers training at Jordanstown. does not want his lads playing hurling. we've andy mclean. aidso Gallagher, CJ. Sean Burke at county training. i hope CAVAN STUFF THEM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 12, 2008, 09:23:13 AM
Good win for Glenariff yesterday. 4-17 to 3-19, lead the whole match but nearly threw it away. Portaferry came back from seven (i think) behind at half time to even things with about one minute of injury time left.

Interestingly about 1-15 of Portaferrys scores came from frees. Glenariffs backs need to sharpen up a bit as they were second to the ball on most occasions, resulting in the frees.

Glenariff keeper had an unfortunate incident also where a soft shot was pucked in from midfield and bounced over his head into the net with nobody near him, but apart from that was pretty solid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 12, 2008, 10:25:29 AM
Is the big massive lad still keeping goal of glenariff? hes some shot stopper
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 12, 2008, 10:36:39 AM
Pretty poor form from Jody. Doesn't bode well for him having any form of consideration for the county he is training.

Would have been wiser to train at Jordanstown at 10/11 am, let anyone playing hurling that afternoon take it easy in the session.

These are committed footballers who would not want to be missing their biggest date of the year with the county (next Sunday) but shouldn't be deprived of playing for their club.

Mourinho for Antrim next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 12, 2008, 11:31:44 AM
We managed to get our first points on the board yesterday with a 4-16 to 0-11 win against Ballycastle.

A scrappy enough affair throughout with us still struggling to out manoeuvre a forward playing deep in front of his own fullback line. The amount of ball hit to the fella was unbelievable.

The town are as poor as I've seen them with Quashie and Pinkie missing, they rely heavily on Ronan Donnelly to win ball in the forwards.

We're not much better though, but we'll need to pick up more points soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 12, 2008, 12:17:23 PM
St Johns 1.11 Dunloy 0.16

Dunloy struggled past a determined and pacy St Johns team, i predicted last year that the johnnies would casue an upset in the championship and they let me down, this year i think they will give Cushendall a real match.  They just need another couple of real class forwards to take a bit of the scoring burden of McFall who was well marshalled by big parrot yesterday.

Great to see Conor Cunning back in his form of old, winning ball in the half forwards and setting up scores, could be huge asset to Dunloy thi year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 12, 2008, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 12, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
yes the scoreline was 3.15 to 1.12

i was not at game but they only pulled away with 10 minutes to go.

Jody pulled a flanker and had the Senior footballers training at Jordanstown. does not want his lads playing hurling. we've andy mclean. aidso Gallagher, CJ. Sean Burke at county training. i hope CAVAN STUFF THEM

Jody should just catch a grip and cop on to where he is now. Whatever happens in tyrone there's a game to be played in Antrim. f++k the other shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 12, 2008, 11:11:01 PM
More fool them for going to the poly instead of playing a match for their club

No need for that shite from Gormley. He can piss away off if thats the way he treats dual players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 12, 2008, 11:21:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2008, 11:14:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 12, 2008, 11:11:01 PM
More fool them for going to the poly instead of playing a match for their club
They're St.Gall's players. Jody's rule for St.Gall's players appears to be "miss training once and you're gone".

Now, if you're from Randalstown..........

aye and yer man was right to tell him where to get off . .. .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 13, 2008, 07:26:32 AM
And seeing as Jody wouldn't understand allegiance to club then should we expect anything better from him or any like him. Dinny was as bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 08:51:49 AM
those lads know where i stand, hardstation.

so the question is, are those four lads allowed to play on wed night for their club? or will the county re set a date for our game on wed night? i doubt they will see the need to do any, after all the Tommy Murphy Cup is looming and all the lads can't wait for the action to heat up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2008, 09:47:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 13, 2008, 07:26:32 AM
And seeing as Jody wouldn't understand allegiance to club then should we expect anything better from him or any like him. Dinny was as bad

Why would a county manager give a f**k for club hurling or football for that matter? They are judged solely on results and as far as they're concerned the only show in town is their show and it's usually a short term show.

IMO it's the county boards who need to sit down with both parties and strike a balance but as usual the players are the ones caught in limbo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 13, 2008, 01:35:54 PM
Have to agree with Johnnycool -Jody dosen't give a flying f**k about hurling or Antrim clubs.

Fixtures for this week. Rasharkin are going well an our lads will be doing v well to get anything from that fixture.

Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Cushendall  St. Johns  Cushendall 14/05/2008 19:30 McAuley Liam   
Glenariff  Ballygalget  Glenariff 14/05/2008 19:30 Elliott Owen   
Loughgiel  Dunloy  Loughgiel Shamrocks 14/05/2008 20:00 Duffy Garrett   
Portaferry  Ballycastle  Portaferry 18/05/2008 15:00 Duffy Garrett
   
Antrim Hurling Reserve D1
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Loughgiel Shamrocks  Dunloy  Loughgiel Shamrocks 14/05/2008 18:45 Mitchell Willie   
Portaferry  Ballycastle  Portaferry 18/05/2008 13:30 Quinn Liam
   
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Gort Na Mona  Glenravel  Gort Na Mona 14/05/2008 19:00 Carroll Gerry   
Lamh Dhearg  Gaeil Chluana  Lamh Dhearg 14/05/2008 19:00 McIntyre Tommy   
Shane O Neills  Carey Faughs  Shane ONeills 14/05/2008 19:00 Traynor Francis   
St. Galls  Cloughmills  St. Galls 14/05/2008 19:00 French Michael   
St. Pauls  Armoy  St. Pauls 14/05/2008 19:00 Reilly Terry   
Tir na Nog  Ballycran  Tir na Nog 14/05/2008 19:00 Hasson Eamon   
Sarsfields  Cushendun  Sarsfields 14/05/2008 19:00 Robinson Gerard   
Rasharkin  Rossa  Rasharkin 14/05/2008 19:00 McKillop John   
Shane O Neills  Armoy  Shane ONeills 18/05/2008 18:00 Cunning Colm   
Ballycran  St. Pauls  Ballycran 18/05/2008 19:00 Wells Terence
   
Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Ardoyne  St. Endas  Mallusk 14/05/2008 19:00 Reid James   
Ballymena  St. Galls 2 Ballymena 14/05/2008 19:00 Cosgrove Gerry   
St. Agnes  St. Teresas  St. Agnes 14/05/2008 19:00 Willoughby Sean
   
Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Davitts  Sean McDermotts  Twinbrook 14/05/2008 19:00 McIlhatton Paul   
Bredagh  St. Brigids (B ) Bredagh 14/05/2008 19:00 McClory Gerry   
Creggan Gaels  Sarsfields 2 Creggan Gaels 14/05/2008 19:00 Flaherty Sean   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 13, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
Are you taking the p1ss Guillem?

Rossa do well to get anything from Rasharkin?? If you are being serious I'd worry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 13, 2008, 02:49:28 PM
QuoteAre you taking the p1ss Guillem?

Unfortunately I'm not! We're in a bad way at the minute and Rasharkin are on the up. It's never easy travelling up north in mid week for a 7.00 throw in. Hopefully I'm wrong but I am worried.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 13, 2008, 02:52:55 PM
come on Guillem, you'd beat them with your south antrim team, Jim close, Carbine, dolly, couple of good minors and big rogie back in fullback and collins up front, we played ya's last night. good game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Glenariff  Ballygalget  Glenariff 14/05/2008 19:30 Elliott Owen


Feckin hell, Glenariff at 7.30pm on a weeknight, big ask, especially when we've nowt on the sunday!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2008, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Glenariff  Ballygalget  Glenariff 14/05/2008 19:30 Elliott Owen


Feckin hell, Glenariff at 7.30pm on a weeknight, big ask, especially when we've nowt on the sunday!!!

Your wish is my command JC, one of our lads told me last night it is now on the Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 13, 2008, 04:13:55 PM
If come Thursday morning I see Rasharkin having beaten Rossa I'll be amazed but who knows.

In that Div 2/3 mix there might be some interesting battles and results. Ballycran apart and Cloughmills at the other end everyone is capable of beating everyone.

Games should be at 7.30pm. Its been said alot, there are complaints galore about this but it should be the same all round.
Avoids traffic for Belfast teams travelling north and other traffic issues. Light enough to have it and means a bit of preparation time.
Most games will arguably not start until a bit after 7 anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2008, 08:57:02 AM
yep a bit off comon sense would not hurt anyone, 7.30 starts have been the norm at south antrim games between belfast clubs for two weeks, but the all knowing and all powerful Antrim board/CCC/and website addmin know whats best 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 14, 2008, 10:10:45 AM
Was that you they were getting tore into Milltown?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2008, 10:29:25 AM
Chairman Mc Sparran obviously reads this board as he was talking about Milltown and "other sites".....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2008, 10:38:46 AM
what about the games tonight?

Think the game in loughgiel should be interesting.

Were the johnnies well behaved at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 14, 2008, 11:07:19 AM
In Div2/3 there is no way Rasharkin are going to trouble Rossa - if they do Rossa should just give up the hurling and stick to the football - thats how big a shock that result would be!  Ballycran should acount for Tir na nOg if they make it there on time - will be interesting to see if Magill is playing tonight.  Gorts will continue their winning ways v G'ravel, wins also for St. Gall's, Clooney, Glenarm, St. Pauls, Sarsfields/C'dun hard to call.

Definitely a decent league despite what protests there were before it began.  A few reality checks for some of the Div 1 clubs making the drop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on May 14, 2008, 12:57:32 PM
This should be interesting:

Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee
Portaferry Ballycastle Portaferry 18/05/2008 15:00 Duffy Garrett

Ulster Club Senior Hurling League Division 1A
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee
Portaferry Ballycastle Portaferry 18/05/2008 15:30 Gerard Devlin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2008, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: aontroim on May 14, 2008, 11:07:19 AM
In Div2/3 there is no way Rasharkin are going to trouble Rossa - if they do Rossa should just give up the hurling and stick to the football - thats how big a shock that result would be!  Ballycran should acount for Tir na nOg if they make it there on time - will be interesting to see if Magill is playing tonight.  Gorts will continue their winning ways v G'ravel, wins also for St. Gall's, Clooney, Glenarm, St. Pauls, Sarsfields/C'dun hard to call.

Definitely a decent league despite what protests there were before it began.  A few reality checks for some of the Div 1 clubs making the drop.

Magill is not starting for the footballers and i heard he played last night for the senior hurlers in a friendly against Dublin, so i would expect him to play tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
Fair play of Magill turning out for the hurlers and his club, would Magill have been dropped from the footballers had he been a footballer only? i doubt it very much. talented at both like a lot of players from my own club. Karl Stewart top scored last seasonfor St Galls and would be a usefull player on Jody's panel. but his love for hurling would mean his county football appearances would be limited.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 14, 2008, 01:37:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2008, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Glenariff  Ballygalget  Glenariff 14/05/2008 19:30 Elliott Owen


Feckin hell, Glenariff at 7.30pm on a weeknight, big ask, especially when we've nowt on the sunday!!!

Your wish is my command JC, one of our lads told me last night it is now on the Sunday.

Thank goodness, common sense has prevailed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
Milltown
I think there were other issues surrounding his exit from the football, we all know he is a talent but there is a committment that is supposed to go along with county talent and that is sadly lacking in this case. He has played them off against each other for long enough and I can see where jody os coming from on this one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 14, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
Milltown

Just confirming this...you may have done so previously.

Is Kevin McGourty seriously not playing hurling at all for St Galls. Does he go to their training? How can he possibly be on the county panel if not?

If it is the case that he's not then its just stupidity...all along people have said his fitness, strength is up there but he needs work on his hurling which games for the club would give him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2008, 02:17:11 PM
yes Kevin has not turned out for either teams at the club, i'm sure he will at some piont but to date has not lifted a finger.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
does he not have a broken hand  or an injury to the hand at the minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2008, 02:23:48 PM
Milltown

would you not agree that
'im sure he will at sometime' isnt really good enough for a county panelist?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2008, 02:24:02 PM
Perhaps he does but he was not stripping out for St Galls when he was fit and able, in fairness the games for St Galls are very low profile at the minute which would not suit at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 14, 2008, 02:38:57 PM
i'm not the county manager so i cant answer for sambo and woody. is he good enough to be a county panelist? have a look at some of the players on the 'panel' and tell me should they be on it. managers all have different ideas some agree and the majority dont.

Ciaran's hand is broken not kevins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2008, 09:54:22 PM
St Johns beat Cushendall reserves tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2008, 11:01:26 PM
Dunloy 2-10 Loughgiel 0-9

Terrible match played far too late in the evening when light levels seemed to have a big effect on the standard of hurling. Also not helped by the fact that Loughgiel were interested mainly in supporting a local business (Joe Scullion). You'd make a good fire with the broken timber tonight. Three men sent off from Loughgiel as a result. Hard as fcuk though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on May 15, 2008, 09:01:40 AM
Who got the line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2008, 09:16:33 AM
Ding Gillan (straight red), that Skinner boy (two yellows both off the ball) and Johnny Campbell (his second yellow could have broken our forwards arm)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 15, 2008, 09:24:13 AM
Skinner didnt recieve a second yellow
he got a straight red for an off the ball strike which the ref caught
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 15, 2008, 12:56:20 PM
Skinner was booked but the ref seemed to pull out a straight red card for the second off the ball.  Agree with Skull the light was fast dissappearing as the game was coming to a close and with it not starting until 8:15pm it was  prob a bit late.

Some other interesting results last night, St Johns beating cushendall in cushendall looks a big shock on paper and following on so quickly from the loughgiel match.  Whats happening with the Dall, where they short many last night.  St Johns are definately a decent team.

The fear Guillem had of the Rasharkin match proved unfounded with a very comfortable win, can Rossa get their act together to make a push for promotion or do Ballycran look firm favourites, thats an interesting division
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 15, 2008, 01:24:19 PM
It's Ballycran's to lose. they have won all their games beat us by 4 and Gorts are doing well also, so the crunch game in the league will be Ballycran and Gort Na Mona
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 15, 2008, 01:50:11 PM
Division two looks to be quite competetive with Randalstown improving & the likes of St Pauls, Gorts decent on their day

Big win for the johnies last night, played some good hurling especially in the first half. Cushendall struggling at present...last night  they were missing Scullion, Graffin, McGill, Shane McN, McManus, Elliott, Declan McK, Brian McN& a couple of fringe players/good minors who were out injured as well.Micky McCambridge only came as sub at corner forward in second half.

Was the Loughgiel match dirty or was it just the sending off incidents?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
Cushendall do not seem too concerned by the league and will be looking to paek at the end of the summer, they have a lot of injuries at the minute and there were fellaS on last night that would be nowhere near their championship XV.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 15, 2008, 02:02:27 PM
Loughgeil didnt seem to have any interest in playing hurling

from the first whistle they were slashing at anything that moved.

Are they actually told to go out and do this? Do they not realise how successful this has been for them in the past.

Think a few of the loughgiel players were actually embarrassed by what was going on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 15, 2008, 02:05:49 PM
I would be surprsied if Gort Na Mona are within 8 points of Ballycran.

No doubt St Johns are putting the effort in but wouldn't read anything into their win against Cushendall. Cushendall will come good at the right time I'd say.

Guillem - how much did you beat Rasharkin by then??

Anyone post all the results from last night? I can't access that section of the Antrim website at work. Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 02:12:41 PM
Wednesday 14th May 2008
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue   
Loughgiel  0-9 2-11 Dunloy  Loughgiel Shamrocks   
Cushendall  0-13 2-13 St. Johns  Cushendall   
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue   
Tir na Nog  2-14 4-17 Ballycran  Tir na Nog   
Gort Na Mona  2-17 0-7 Glenravel  Gort Na Mona   
Lamh Dhearg  3-9 2-11 Gaeil Chluana  Lamh Dhearg   
Shane O Neills  3-13 2-7 Carey Faughs  Shane ONeills   
St. Pauls  0-16 3-7 Armoy  St. Pauls   
Rasharkin  1-8 2-24 Rossa  Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 15, 2008, 08:43:49 PM
St pauls games seems like a good in. Anyone got a report?

Have carey lost any men this year, they seem to slipping further and further back, are there any injuries?

Just read the report on the towns game, what are they playing at putting big ronan in the forward line? hes as nice a man as you could possibly meet but hes too slow and hes a back. IS it the towns policy to people boys out of position? What has happened to pinky, hippy and the two dallats to mention a few of that u-21 team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 16, 2008, 11:20:48 AM
QuoteGuillem - how much did you beat Rasharkin by then??
I clearly over estimated Rasharkins improvement and our decline. Good to get a decent win under our belts. Div 2/3 is a very tight league for most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 16, 2008, 11:33:24 AM
Div 2 seems to be majorly competitive and the div 1 seems to be taking the same shape as usual.

Loughgiel trying hard and losing the plot

Cushendall not giving a toss

Dunloy showing usual consistency

St Johns showing early promise.

Thats probably how it will remain for the forseeable future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 16, 2008, 12:03:40 PM
If your talking about the league then surely its the shamrocks that are the most consistent having won it the last lock of years.

Cushendall so seem to be not giving a toss about the league, and in the past they have shown an apt for doing this and still peaking for championship.  very risky strategy in my opinion and takes a fair amount of confidence (maybe arrogance) to pull off. 

Its still very early in the season but would be relatively happy with were Dunloy are at


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2008, 02:08:12 PM
Max Power...about Cushendall not giving a toss about the league. I'm sure they would like to win their matches but cos of these injuries (most of them county players as well). they obviously are struggling at present.

Beat Ballycastle in the league by a point. Had won their 3 Ulstre league matches with two tough matches v Glenariffe & Ballygalget. Beat in Portaferry the next day when playing well up to half time they just ran out of steam in second half. OK awful v Loughgiel..but against St Johns on Wednesday past they were short again & after a poor first half they battled hard.

I'm sure its not arrogance wanting to get beat 3 games in a row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 16, 2008, 02:30:29 PM
You miss my point, which was probaly a back handed compliment.  Cushendall probaly aren't up too speed yet, they seldom are for the league yet they can produce it later in the year.  Now thats were the confidence comes into it, you have to have extreme confidence in your own team to not be affected by a poor league showing.

Similar to Cork on a national stage, they have such confidence in there players they use the league almost like training whereas Kilkenny would be akin to Dunloy in that they like to try and win every game. 

Two different ways of preparing, come september there will be little between Cork & Kilkenny and less between Dunloy & the Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 16, 2008, 02:58:29 PM
Max
what was your take on the match mid week with loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2008, 03:05:12 PM
Thats fair enough Max, obviously Cushendall will be hoping to peak later on in the championship but I think with the change of league structure & with less easier matches i'm sure they'd like to have been in a better position at this but their hands have been tied to a certain extent.

Dunloy would have greater strength in depth than Cushendall which means if you take 2 or 3 players out of Dunloys team they would still cope where as Cushendall would feel the pinch...hence Dunloy being in a good position to win every match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 16, 2008, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 16, 2008, 02:58:29 PM
Max
what was your take on the match mid week with loughgiel?

I think loughgiel let themselves down with their discipline, Dunloy deserved a bit of credit for not getting involved and for comfortably winning the game.  I'd take little else out of the game.

Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2008, 03:05:12 PM
Thats fair enough Max, obviously Cushendall will be hoping to peak later on in the championship but I think with the change of league structure & with less easier matches i'm sure they'd like to have been in a better position at this but their hands have been tied to a certain extent.

Dunloy would have greater strength in depth than Cushendall which means if you take 2 or 3 players out of Dunloys team they would still cope where as Cushendall would feel the pinch...hence Dunloy being in a good position to win every match.

I do think dunloy have good strength in depth
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 20, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
Any games this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 20, 2008, 12:06:34 PM
Loughgiel v Cushendall Thursday night in Feis Cup in Cushendun. Not sure of the other fixtures

No league matches this weekend as County hurlers away to Mayo for weekend.

Minor championship starts on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2008, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 20, 2008, 12:06:34 PM
Loughgiel v Cushendall Thursday night in Feis Cup in Cushendun. Not sure of the other fixtures

No league matches this weekend as County hurlers away to Mayo for weekend.

Minor championship starts on Saturday

Nature of their visit? Wine, women & song?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 20, 2008, 12:15:38 PM
is it to play Mayo? or maybe the rossies. are the unfit players allowed to go for the weekend?

i asume it's a team building trip, can't wait on the stories to come from this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
We wont even have Mc Fall to blame this time, its time for some new heroes to step up to the plate.........There is certainly potential there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 20, 2008, 12:45:41 PM
including the managers haha

sure they will have the blessing of the managers anyway so anything that happens will be ok

you wouldnt have to travel too far to find one of the managers sitting with a starting player most weekends enjoying a few beverages!
The tough professional stance that they were supposed to bring never really materialised did it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 20, 2008, 01:31:44 PM
Well NAG if it's a professional stance there'll be no drinking as they play the semi final(probably Derry) following week.

They are staying at some new sports hotel in Mayo that caters for teams going on weekends away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 20, 2008, 01:48:58 PM
i'm glad that they are getting a wee trip, they deserve it......

Ulster Championship coming up and the boys need a bit of relaxing before the taxing games ahead.

when we play Galway, wiil they go out 15 on 15 or drop a man in front of Canning and hope to keep the score down?

if we get tanked by Galway by a big score it would be tough on the lads to get ready for a difficult game against Clare/waterford. would that game be at home or neutral venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 20, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
Im not sure if it would be a nuetral venue or not.

If anyone recalls the minor game with the two boys in charge, dropping a man back in our backline actually contributed to getting the team beat that day and everyone in the ground could see it.

Im not saying that its not relevant in this game but my point is that the tactical awareness in this management team isnt the sharpest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2008, 08:17:36 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 20, 2008, 05:09:45 PM
Lets face it the current management like many other managers aren't moving with the times. With new innovations in science managers/coaches need to be up to date on current research in order to get maximum from their athletes....and no, pinting before big league games is not included in this science!!



What are they not doing which flies in the face of current research? You need to detail what it is that they're not doing if that is to be believed. Anyway.......I'm sure McGeeney would consider himself "cutting edge" and look what he's delivered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 20, 2008, 11:55:42 PM
I hear there was a bad injury in the Ossians/ Dunloy match tonight and the match was abandoned, what happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2008, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 20, 2008, 11:55:42 PM
I hear there was a bad injury in the Ossians/ Dunloy match tonight and the match was abandoned, what happened?

I heard a Dunloy player broke his collarbone and it took the ambulance an hour to arrive so they had to abandon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 08:33:59 AM
Minder how long did it take that ambulance to come that night when we played ya's, now who was it got hurt that night ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 21, 2008, 08:35:53 AM
Any one know who the player injured was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2008, 08:37:36 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 08:33:59 AM
Minder how long did it take that ambulance to come that night when we played ya's, now who was it got hurt that night ;)

Fcuk it took ages but i had a few nice warm blankets to keep me warm while i was waiting, some spastic went in to my Ma and told her i had broke my back !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 09:13:38 AM
aye then the thing turns up and ya wanted to get up and play, Flynser was telling ya to stay down and we were up eating the sarnies ah well we won by a point. good craic all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2008, 09:21:43 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 09:13:38 AM
aye then the thing turns up and ya wanted to get up and play, Flynser was telling ya to stay down and we were up eating the sarnies ah well we won by a point. good craic all the same

I got blamed for that defeat by our boys, they said we were coming back at youse and the stoppage interrupted it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 21, 2008, 09:55:59 AM
I got blamed for that defeat by our boys, they said we were coming back at youse and the stoppage interrupted it!
[/quote]

did alright, we hung in for the last 7 minutes, good battle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2008, 11:02:07 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 21, 2008, 08:35:53 AM
Any one know who the player injured was?

Terry McMullan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 21, 2008, 11:02:37 AM
was it a broken collar bone skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
Don't know for sure NAG. Think so. Still in hospital I believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 21, 2008, 06:28:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 21, 2008, 11:02:07 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 21, 2008, 08:35:53 AM
Any one know who the player injured was?

Terry McMullan

Me and him are very friendly. Must call him now. Jesus..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 23, 2008, 11:02:45 AM
Has anyone heard the schedule for this weekends training camp in Mayo?

What happened to the challenge games withe top counties? Kildare?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on May 23, 2008, 11:08:43 AM
These days, it's nice of a big time hurling team team like Kildare to even consider giving us a game.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 23, 2008, 11:23:32 AM
What happened to the fan fair at the start from the two boys

gone are the days of antrim playing the like sof west meath and kildare
we can get challenge games with any of the top counties with one phone call

maybe we are afraid to get found out, to see what level we are really at by playing some of these midlanders!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on May 23, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
The county set-up is piss poor at the minute. Was talking to a few of our lads and thats the general consensus. As for playing Kildare - there response that will help us for Galway!!!

We got back on track last night after last weeks shambles against Dunloy. We were pathetic and discipline was embarassing. i think it wasa major wake up for our lads. We beat Cushendall 4-13 to 0-9. They were missing about 6 first team players, we were down 4 including Winker. Lads showed a good hunger for ball and hopefully we should make our first Feis final in years!! Ding got 3 months and Skinner 8 weeks for last weeks red cards. Means Ding misses championship v St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 23, 2008, 03:10:10 PM
well thats one less to worry about ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 23, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Good to hear that shamrocker has got the wake up call.

Maybe he can answer, I have just been asked about winker turning up to county training last week in ballymena still drunk from the night before and not a word said?

Then decided to watch the training session on the following tuesday because he couldnt be bothered?

dont think this is acceptable no matter how good you are.
and something we were lead to believe current management would stamp out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 23, 2008, 05:09:47 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 23, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Good to hear that shamrocker has got the wake up call.

Maybe he can answer, I have just been asked about winker turning up to county training last week in ballymena still drunk from the night before and not a word said?

Then decided to watch the training session on the following tuesday because he couldnt be bothered?

dont think this is acceptable no matter how good you are.
and something we were lead to believe current management would stamp out

Winker has had managers pandering too him all his life. Keeps getting the by ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 26, 2008, 02:40:32 PM
any news from Mayo?

did we beat Kildare?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 26, 2008, 09:02:25 PM
"Apparently" being the operative word,would somebody maybe enlighten me as to the wisdom of playing teams such as kildare and mayo ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on May 26, 2008, 10:20:44 PM
Get the confidence up. Win or lose a few quid a cards on the bus. Farce load of bollock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 26, 2008, 11:37:42 PM
Unfortunately though and not entirely our own fault but we are Christy Ring material. When we play Liam Mc Carthy it is more a bout damage limitation more than anything else. The only thing we can hope for is a respectable performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 27, 2008, 12:43:56 PM
Having looked at the hammering laois got I am very fearful for us later in the year!

Galway seem to be coming into some sort of shape too!
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Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 27, 2008, 02:21:02 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 27, 2008, 02:32:02 PM
Perfect time for a championship match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
Is 8.00pm not a bit early? Midnight would probably suit better, i cant imagine many Derry football fans rushing back from Ballybofey anyway......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2008, 02:42:19 PM
The same day as Derry v Donegal.

Seriously that's a disgrace.

Hurling promotion my ass.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2008, 08:50:36 PM
Jesus that is brutal

Was there anything to stop Derry/Donegal and Fermanagh/Monaghan swapping fixture dates?

Hurling ....an irritating afterthought in Ulster circles. If Antrim are going to protest about the poor treatment they have been given at a national level you'd have thought they'd have made a bit of noise about this as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 28, 2008, 09:02:27 AM
What is the team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
R McGarry; A Graffin, J McKeague, S Delargy (capt); C Herron, K McKeegan, J Campbell;

K Stewart, M Magill; P Richmond, L Watson,

P Shiels; M Herron, C Donnelly, D McNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 28, 2008, 09:31:39 AM
Not overly impressed by any faceit of that team to be perfectly honest.

Is this the best we have on offer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2008, 10:17:49 AM
No out and out scoring forwards in the FF line would be my only reservation. Taking those on the panel who are injury free, I'd say this team is close enough to our best 15. Everyone could argue over 2 or 3 positions but it's not far away IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 28, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
I think there will be a few positional changes in that team as FF line are out of position. Defence is strong enough(or as good as we're gonna get) with McGarry struggling with injury so McKeague is in FB. . Donal McNaughton is a midfielder so I think he'll go there. Magill to wing forward & shorty to the corner. Paddy Richmond to swap with Micko Herron I reckon.

so from midfield up it might look like this...only guessing now but it looks more balanced
  Stewart McNaughton

Herron Watson Magill

Richmond Hippy Shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 28, 2008, 10:48:53 AM
So we play our naturally best full forward in the corner to accomodate a guy who cant score and hasnt the pace to get out infront to win the ball either? to me this is a very strange selection

are there no other forwards on the panel that would make an impact, what about all these good minors we have heard so much about for the past 2 years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2008, 03:35:43 PM
I dont know whether its injuries that have blunted Mickey Monty but he hasnt been the same player the last couple of years, i would have said he was our best back a few yaers ago and now he isnt even getting on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 28, 2008, 04:04:22 PM
Micky hurt his hamstring about a month ago & last week v Loughgiel was his first full match back. But also he hasnt started in a couple of the matches this year for S&W.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 28, 2008, 03:33:44 PM
I hate to say it but im a bit fearful going into this match. The forward line has no pace whatsoever. Derry will be up for this as ever, Derry don't fear Antrim.

S Delargy and McKeague are seriously dodgy.They can be easily exposed if you put the right kind of player in on them.

What happened to Mickey McCambridge? I thought he would have got his fitness back up too the required standard by now? He's our best option at FB.


Groundie....is there any need for you to isolate two very committed players when the fact is that every person on the team has the potential to struggle against top opposition? They are there on current form rather than form from a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 29, 2008, 09:33:11 AM
Skull, back after a few days off, did ya happen to be at our pitch watching your minors against us in the minor hurlig Championship on Sat night?

good game for us and Dunloy were unlucky in not getting something out of the game, I'm pleased our lads got the win as the managers have put in a lot of work and hopefully they will put up a good display in the next round
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 29, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
Milltown i was at your pitch on Sunday........at the circus ! That will hardly help the playing surface.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 29, 2008, 10:03:49 AM
The county minor hurling team is some craic!  Players that are starting for a top hurling club senior team arent even on the 24 and yet again managements relatives make the first 15 at the expence of quality.  Team not published to press yet but has been named to the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 29, 2008, 10:38:05 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 29, 2008, 09:35:16 AM
Milltown i was at your pitch on Sunday........at the circus ! That will hardly help the playing surface.........

well it cant make it any worse, we are going to use the money i hope from the rent of the circus to invest in materials equipment that will look after the pitch better.

the problem with our pitch is that the drainage is too good. water goes right through it and out. it cost a lot of money to look after the pitch, money we haven't got
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AM
Couldn't get to it milltown but heard plenty about it. Should have drawn the game but for poor shooting/decsion making. Disappointed to hear our captain got the line only 15 minutes in as he's a good hurler and a great lad, but he's a tendancy to loose composure during games which affects his play considerably. Needs to work on that. Overall assessment was that we did reasonably well considering we played with 14 men for most of the game, but gutted that we didn't get the draw.

Also heard your second pitch was in a terrible state and not one you'd like to hurl on yourself. Could you not get the elephants to level out the surface for youse?  :P

Good luck in the next round btw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
You are a pr1ck groundlie (sorry of that is against the rules Mod).
You lie low and then come out with that tripe.
As Skull says they are two of the most committed hurlers you are going to meet...they may get exposed against Galway...but so might any bloody corner back in the country.

Delargy was arguably the most consistent defender through the league and one of the most consistent in Antrim over the last few years.
Seriously dodgy? What guff.

For me its a shame McGarry isn't fit. Whether he is the best option within the whole county at full back remains to be seen but have seen him a couple of times in there this year and he impressed me on both occassions.

On his day Mickey Monty is a class act. That half back line of him, McKeegan and Herron a couple of years back was playing as well as any line I have seen in my time. He may have slid back a little bit but I do believe he's only getting back to fitness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2008, 06:01:35 PM
Just re-read that...I mean playing as well as any Antrim line in my time.

There are a few others lines just ahead!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 29, 2008, 10:03:11 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 29, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
You are a pr1ck groundlie (sorry of that is against the rules Mod).
You lie low and then come out with that tripe.
As Skull says they are two of the most committed hurlers you are going to meet...they may get exposed against Galway...but so might any bloody corner back in the country.

Delargy was arguably the most consistent defender through the league and one of the most consistent in Antrim over the last few years.
Seriously dodgy? What guff.

For me its a shame McGarry isn't fit. Whether he is the best option within the whole county at full back remains to be seen but have seen him a couple of times in there this year and he impressed me on both occassions.

On his day Mickey Monty is a class act. That half back line of him, McKeegan and Herron a couple of years back was playing as well as any line I have seen in my time. He may have slid back a little bit but I do believe he's only getting back to fitness.

Glensman,

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and that is mine, like it or lump it.

No doubting the commitment of the two lads, excellent as im lead to believe. Two good hurlers but in my opinion we have better options on the squad. For me delargy is too naive attacking the ball.

As for Mickey McCambridge, class act on his day, hope to see him back to his best in the saffron half back line before the summers out.

All the Best,

Groundlie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2008, 11:15:36 PM
You're a laugh Groundie  :-\

You post twice and tell us your reservations about these two players and how there are better options within the squad, YET you STILL haven't told us WHO these "options" are?

WTF?

Yours sincerely,

theskull1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 30, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
We are where we are. As long as the boys who go out and play Galway burst their balls for the full 70 rather than collapsing halfway through the first half then I would view that honesty of effort as a success

Groundie
You're arguing over apples and pears. Subtle personnel changes is all you are talking about and will make no real difference in the grand scheme of things against a side like Galway. The attitude of the team will be the deciding factor IMO

Lots of Love

theskull1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
Micky Monty would have been our best man marker a few years ago but he has regressed lately,probably due to injury
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on May 30, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Just wondering if the Casement social club will be open on sunday? Thinking of heading down for the Down match then watch a few on the TV then the Minor and Senior hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on May 30, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
 Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #4852 on: Today at 08:56:35 AM »     

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Have tried to post this on Hogan in our section and they have blocked it all week.

" Conflict of Interest"

How can Ray Matthews referee our Minor Hurlers this Sunday, When his Brother in law is the Armagh coach "Rogie", and he coaches the Armagh goalkeepers-- What are Ulster Council thinking. I am not saying it would be deliberate, but i would hate to see a crunch decision in the last few minutes!! He is a good referee i hear, but how he should have withdrawn from the game! 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2008, 05:58:46 PM
Our former poster "Aontroim Abu" could maybe have filled us in on this ref controversy if he hadnt deleted his account
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 31, 2008, 01:23:13 PM
I see Noel Sands referred to Karl Mc Keegan as looking like Matt Lucas in the Irish News yesterday,it was a bit rough i thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 01, 2008, 04:46:50 PM
any updates on the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 01, 2008, 04:53:27 PM
The ref has just indicated there will be 270 minutes of injury time so we wont know a winner until well after 9pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 01, 2008, 04:53:53 PM
Sweet christ thats a late start, Sorry i didnt check i thought it was at a normal time. 8 pm wats that all about ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 01, 2008, 06:17:13 PM
did Magill play football today for his club?

also £10 entre fee, a more realistic price for a championship game. how does the ulster council decide its £19 into watch football and £10 into hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 01:14:09 AM
Too tired to write a full report but just a couple of comments.

1.
Though I didn't see the two specific incidents (within the first 8-10 minutes) I would guess that Watson did indeed deserve two yellow cards and had to go. Derry clearly had a pretty cynical (smart) gameplane to wind him up. It worked a treat and he got sent off.
He must realise himself that teams are going to try and do that.

2.
Thereafter every single decision (bar a couple) was got wrong by the referee..Declan Magee if I am not mistaken. That was officially thee worst display of officialdom I have seen EVER.
He gave frees the wrong way.
He blew for a free where there was a simple tussle and would en route to the specific place of the incident decide who the free was for.
He blew for a free once and en route to the specific place of the incident and couldn't decide so he gave a two man ball....a two man ball when he had blown up in the middle of the pitch??
He blew for a free and clearly forgot the direction in which the team was shooting and ran off towards the wrong goal, only to realise and then do a random loop around and act as if he knew where he was going.
He would blow for the most inocuous of tackles outfield, Paddy Richmond had nearly the shirt pulled off him in penalty box in his clear line of sight and he waved play on.

Referees have a thankless task - when playing myself I rarely blame them or give them abuse but he was a complete and utter joke. Apologies Declan but you need to take a look at yourself.

3.
Paddy Richmond would grace all county teams in Ireland

4.
Not getting into my usual, I've had a couple of pints so I'll be over optimistic but Antrim...having gone down to 14 men after 8 minutes (losing a super but fragile minded forward) eventually made their class shine through:
Graffin is a class act
Karl Stewart seems to have matured as a player
When important interceptions were needed McKeegan and Herron were there
And Richmond.

Downsides:
too many wides from long range
STUPID STUPID play when going down to 14 men. On the very few occasions when players took a look up and decided to play a diagonal ball, or quite simply decide to avoid their 15th man sweeping we did damage...why this wasn't barked from the sideline I don't know "please boys avoid that guy in the red helmet there, he has acres of space and I'd say that if you hit the ball to him it may very well come right back at you, but sure that's just a thought"...take that extra touch (against Derry you can with all due respect) the amount of times players did not look up when passing through was disgraceful.

Anyhow...I've gone on.

Down will be tougher.

Galway will be a different kettle of fish altogether but why the feck not?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 01:16:07 AM
Magill didn't play football today.

After about 3 mins he made a super catch a great burst out of defence but pulled up having pulled a muscle.
Thought at the time it was hamstring...told later it may have been his achilles.
Shame.
Hope he's not out for too long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on June 02, 2008, 08:43:41 AM
Glensman, you are 100% correct, maybe the railway cup scenario with Loughnan has taken its toll!! John Gough the 2nd he was extremely poor, and this from a man who was saying down our way pardon the punn, that he felt that he should get the Ulster Final!!!!!

He systamatically killed the game, not that it was great anyway, referees have a major contribution to make to any game, he did,nt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 02, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
Listen lads, Deccy Magee is the worst ref i have ever seen, and i am not just talking about inter county refs, i am talking Antrim Div 3 hurling, the lot. I have heard he is one of the few that is mad keen to do games and that is why he has had a meteoric rise throughout the ranks. Thankless task but he does himself no favours.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 02, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
i am afraid everything that has been said about deccy is true.  an awful performance with the whistle from start to finish and both teams must be frustrated.  he wants to the the star of the show.  he blew ryan mc garry up twice for quick puck outs and gave 2 men on the 21.  Now technically this may be correct (not sure??) but on the second occassion all antirm players were outside the 21 yard line and he still pulled it back.  so if derry were being smart, and wanted to slow the game down, they just had to take their time in getting outside the 21.

i must say derry;s tactics were a bit disappointing.  clearly they wanted watson off which is fair enough and can;t believe he fell for it.  after that they seemed to want to break the game up and every time there was physical contact a man went down, the trainer came on and we had a 1 or 2 minute delay.  very frustrating to watch and deccy did nothing to try and counter this.

as for antrim, they seemed lost when a man down and tactically they were all over the place in the first half.  a free man in their half backs so what do we do?  we have our two wing half forwards (natty and mick herron) dropping deep, leaving one half forward against his man and the sweeper.  that half forward being hippy is too slow for intercounty I am afraid and there couldn;t have been a man less suited to this role- we needed a man able to cover a lot of ground in short space of time.  He wasn;t helped of course by the aimless ball that was being played in.  Richmonds goal, which was awful play by the derry back, kept us in it in the first half.

To be fair, woody and sambo changed it in the second half.  hippy off and the two wing half forwards holding their positions.  the spare man didn;t count in the second half.

a few other observations:

for me, mc keague isn;t convincing at full back and gets caught on the wrong side a lot.  seems like a disaster waiting to happen but in his defence it doesn;t seem to come along that much at club level from what i have seen?

graffin, take a bow.   the best man on the park (only richmond was close).  showed leadership when it was needed- very neat and tidy player and uses the ball well.

though karl mc keegan had a poor game yesterday- missed several very easy catches.

karl stewart had a good game with some good scores and eddie mc closkey played very well when he came on in the first half.

paddy richmond- class act.   why do we not just play this man on the edge of the square and give him the space he needs.  reads the game so well and can take a score or pick out a team mate from anywhere.


down will hardly be quaking in their boots.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 02, 2008, 09:27:10 AM
Is anyone really suprised by Watson?

This is what you get for pandering after him the way S&W have done.

Again hate to say to say it but i told you so about hippy and playing our best forward in richmond out of position to accomdate him.

Is there any progress being made with this team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 02, 2008, 09:45:55 AM
I wasn't at the game but I was told that Watson got a straight red for striking off the ball. If that's right he'll miss the next couple of games and make sambos decision for him. Can any one confirm what happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 10:04:32 AM
1. Not sure whether we are better or not than last year, very hard to tell. I would think slightly. I recall struggling to beat Derry with 15 men let alone 14 and we were well ahead of them yesterday
2. I think we should beat Down, but then again strange things happen. If we can't beat Down then we should be having a look at ourselves. We need to start strong, play strong and finish strong...a constant problem for us as in 10/15 minutes we can stay with anyone (of maybe 8/10 mins)
3. Galway are on a different level and have aspirations way past us...A 100% performance and we'll keep them within 7/8. If we run them any tighter that is good work I think. Though of course we should be going out to win we will need everything to go in our favour.


Karl did drop a couple of balls but I always find he does that maybe 1/2 times a game when its not important. That is no excuse at all but when an interception/clearance is needed second half when things are tight he's normally grand.

Not surprised by Watson. Hopefully he has a real look at himself. He nearly made a very costly mistake(s) yesterday.

So he got sent off because S&W pander to him?? He went out there and thought "right, these losers are suckers, I'll show them?" What???
He has a screw lose alright and should know better but he is one of the two best forwards in the county and needs to be playing.

They didn't play Richmond out of position to accomodate Hippy...the half forward line as named played as the FF line and vice versa so Hippy was CHF. Hippy was a bit slow alright yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 10:05:30 AM
I think he was shown a second yellow and then a red from where I was. Can't be changed I don't believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 02, 2008, 10:18:53 AM
Glensman

You picked it up wrong from what I said.

It is the fact that they pander too him means that he has no discipline he is not giving up anything to play for antrim so therefore it doesnt mean anything to him and when it gets tight and someone is giving him stick he would rather lash out because:

a) he has no respect for S&W
b) he has no respect for his team mates
c) doesnt give a crap about playing for antrim


Harsh maybe but true definitely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 02, 2008, 10:22:34 AM
A few points

I will bet you any amount of money you like we will not be within 7/8 points of Galway. When we used to struggle to beat Derry with 15 that had more to do with how much better Derry were then, Mc Gonigle, Ollie Collins, Mickey Collins, Collie Mc Gurk etc and how poor they are now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 02, 2008, 10:27:13 AM
1. Watson will now miss the Ulster Final through suspension as he was sent off for two yellows against Cork in the NHL. Really stupid of him. Not suprised. Doesnt give a toss.
2.Deccy was brutal...any wonder they let his tyres down on his bicycle in Portaferry after a match. But enough about the referee as it is a thankless job.
3. Even accounting for the extra man....Antrim were awful. Before the sending off you could see they were trying to play a system that they will use against Galway. Derry were poor & relied heavily on frees
4. Our full back line looked dodgy in the first half.....bar Graffin who was outstanding...& just pips Paddy Richmond for MOTM. Thank God he was in top form.
5. Good performances from Ciaran Herron, Karl Stewart in first half & Eddie McCloskey. Deserves to start in the final as he has been good for his club too.
6. Very poor in the half forward line...who do we start in there v Down

We could get it tough in the final as Down have very good forwards & Antrim need to tighten up in there. Alot of pressure on Richmond( who was made captain as we were debating a couple of weeks ago) to get us scores
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 02, 2008, 10:31:18 AM
Team captain Richmond saves Antrim's blushes
02 June 2008


Antrim staged a second-half fightback to beat Derry by 2-17 to 1-12 in Sunday evening's Ulster Senior Hurling Championship semi-final at Casement Park.
The Saffrons seemed to be in big trouble when they trailed by 1-6 to 0-2 after twenty minutes, and down to fourteen men after top forward Liam Watson had been sent off after two yellow cards.
However a brilliant individual goal from team captain and man-of-the-match Paddy Richmond gave them a lifeline and they pulled back to trail by just two at half-time.
A piece of great opportunism four minutes into the second-half saw Richmond grab Antrim's second-goal to bring his side level, and though Derry did lead again on a couple of occasions afterwards, the home side were finally getting to grips with their opponents and eventually pulled away to record a somewhat flattering eight point win.
Relief in the end for all concerned but the management team will be acutely aware that a much better all round performance and attitude will be needed to beat Down in the final, and one shudders to think of what the consequences would be if they were to produce such a display on June 28th against Galway.

Antrim: Ryan McGarry, Aaron Graffin, James McKeague, Sean Delargy (capt), Ciaran Herron, Karl McKeegan, Johnny Campbell, Karl Stewart, Michael Magill, Paddy Richmond, Liam Watson, Paul Shiels, Michael Herron, Cormac Donnelly, Donal McNaughton.

Derry: A Magill, M Craig, C Quinn, C McQuillan, R McCloskey, S Henry, S McCullagh, D Brunton, O McCloskey, P Henry, K Hinphey, SL McGoldrick, P McCloskey, R Convery, G Kelly.

is S.D not captain?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 02, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Delargy was only acting captain in the league while Dunloy were involved in All Ireland Club. Will the Waterford match be away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 02, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
Poor enough game last night. Win was important though. Winker was a silly boy. I cant really see Down beating Antrim in two weeks, I dont think you can turn around a 24 point beating that fast.

Hope that Neil McGarry is back to slot into full back (Antrim need him badly)

The half forward line that started was shocking, no scores from all three tells its own story, but maybe it was just one of them nights for the lads. Thought the half time subs did well, o'connell, mccrory and especially mccloskey who was excellent.

Galway and Waterford, unfortunately it could be a bad end to the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2008, 11:57:24 AM
And there was me thinking that this was the type of opposition that Antrim wanted to test themselves against

As long as they fight to the end for each other then that would do me regardless of the score. If they would do that a bit more down south I think we would keep the score respectable against the better sides, but when boys start dropping the head early in a game they are not going to win, then a trouncing is guaranteed as well as the subsequent slating in the press.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 02, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
skull

I would agree with you that most antrim supporters would be happy with a fighting spirited performance later in the year. But that is not what the management promised, I am just concerned that they are not delivering any kind of progress and they havent put in place any kind of structures that will see our moving forward in the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
Have to agree Graffin is a top quality player and would get his place on any county team IMO. Makes it look easy at times due to his mobility and his stickwork being so tight. Great reader of the game as well. Seems like a nice lad to boot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 02, 2008, 09:32:26 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 01:16:07 AM
Magill didn't play football today.

After about 3 mins he made a super catch a great burst out of defence but pulled up having pulled a muscle.
Thought at the time it was hamstring...told later it may have been his achilles.
Shame.
Hope he's not out for too long.

I heard today Magill played 20mins for his club in div3 football. Not great preparation for an ulster semi-final and could maybe explain why he got an injury in the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 02, 2008, 09:40:32 PM
I heard the same through the course of the day re Magill.

I just hoped it wasn't actually true.

All things told and that I hope its not as serious as it could be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 04, 2008, 03:51:31 PM
Is sambo serious with that drivel about Watson?

Does he not expect a lad of 25-6 to know how to handle this kind of thing.

Look at all the really good players they know how to handle this kind of treatment, what do you  think shefflin gets during a game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 04, 2008, 04:07:36 PM
Has he come out in defence of Watson in today's IN? Anyone post the article?
Suppose there's some element of commending a manager defending his team?!?!

But completely agree about top players having to put up with more?
Declan Magee better not referee anything down south.

Any word on Magill's injury/hangover?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2008, 11:38:04 AM
QuoteHas he come out in defence of Watson in today's IN? Anyone post the article?

He said the poor lamb was getting nipped and poked and the ref wasn't protecting him. He didn't take much abuse if he was sent off within 10 mins!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on June 05, 2008, 04:57:41 PM
Lads.....whats your take on the County trying to stop both Dunloys and Loughgiels players from playing in the Feis final on Sunday evening. Its making my blood boil to be honest. Sambo was always mouthing about Dinny Cahill stopping club hurling. We have not been in Senior Feis final in over 10 years. Its the next biggest event in Antrim hurling bar the championship and these two half wits want to stop 6 lads from playing a game of hurling 8 days before they play Down in a mickey mouse Ulster final which in truth means F**K all!! i could go about some of the antics over the last week but this isnt the place!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 05, 2008, 05:31:20 PM
I can understand why they are doing it although the hypocrisy charge is there for everyone to see. If Loughgiel are down six how many are dunloy down they had three on the starting line up last sunday. As I think of it Loughgiel are only down five as watson is currently suspended for two weeks and couldnt play anyway.
Is it really 10 years since loughgiel were in a feis final? You dont seem to have been taking it too seriously yourselves for the last decade if that is the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 05, 2008, 05:51:35 PM
Regardless of how big a deal the Feis is the Antrim management should not be preventing players from playing,all Sambo did was castigate Dinny in the Irish news for hoarding players. Maybe he sees the Down challenge as a bigger one than i do,all we have been told the last couple of years how much of a non event the Ulster championship is and how it is not benefiting Antrim. As has often been the case with Sambo it is a case of "do as i say not as i do"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 06, 2008, 09:08:30 AM
McCarthy dumped by the Waterford team, big beating waiting for Antrim i'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 06, 2008, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: milltown row on June 06, 2008, 09:08:30 AM
McCarthy dumped by the Waterford team, big beating waiting for Antrim i'd say

I think that would be the case if Ian Paisley was managing Waterford.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 06, 2008, 09:52:18 AM
well he's out of a job and he'd be the age of Micko
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 06, 2008, 06:04:31 PM
There is also the Jim Mc Keirnan factor as well. I thought Jim and Paul Mc Killen should have been allowed more time. May be Sambo is nervous to loosing to a very limited Down team managed by Jim. Who knows. However, there is not enough regular games and consistant structured leagues to help the standards with in the County. The club scene should be our priority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 06, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
On the money Baile an tuaigh. Unless we generate a local hurling scene, the quality will never be there in the numbers needed. Players like rountine games as do supporters. This stop start approach to club hurling just doesn't take us in the right direction IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2008, 07:40:16 PM
 SENIOR FEIS FINAL (from NA website)

The First Trust Bank Senior Feis Cup Hurling Final will go ahead in Dunloy this Sunday 8th June at 6.30pm between close neighbours and rivals Loughgiel Shamrocks and Dunloy Cuchullians. The Feis na nGleann Committee have been informed and given assurances by the County Chairman that ALL of the county players will be made available to their respective clubs for this eagerly awaited weekend clash.

This is the biggest weekend in the North Antrim GAA calendar and with 12 highly competitive finals down for decision over the three day period it is anticipated that there will be very large crowds and all GAA supporters are advise to come early.


Sensible move by all concerned. To be fair to S&W they havent cancelled many fixtures & have generally let the club matches go ahead. I agree that we should get regular fixtures. But its hard for the County to organise with Football commitments for Dual clubs....Clubs dont want to play without County players & even minor players in some cases etc 
We all want to have our fixtures on a Sunday aftrenoon like it used to be but the football clubs want to play then as well. Antrim are probably the only county in Ulster who treat both sports equally(whether that is right is for another day)...the rest of the counties manage it ok cos they give Gaelic first bill & f**k the hurling...its only a nuisance. Its hard to please everyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 09, 2008, 12:10:39 AM
Any news from the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 09, 2008, 08:35:12 AM
Sensible move by all concerned. To be fair to S&W they havent cancelled many fixtures & have generally let the club matches go ahead. I agree that we should get regular fixtures. But its hard for the County to organise with Football commitments for Dual clubs....Clubs dont want to play without County players & even minor players in some cases etc 
We all want to have our fixtures on a Sunday aftrenoon like it used to be but the football clubs want to play then as well. Antrim are probably the only county in Ulster who treat both sports equally(whether that is right is for another day)...the rest of the counties manage it ok cos they give Gaelic first bill & f**k the hurling...its only a nuisance. Its hard to please everyone
[/quote]

so what do the other far more successful dual counties do, Corks, Limericks, Dublins, and the other dual counties that are beter than us, Tipp, Laois, Waterford, they are still developing better dual teams than us.

there has to be a format that works, be it football leagues played earlier in the year, hurling for the summer. any ideas?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: youngfella on June 09, 2008, 12:10:39 AM
Any news from the weekend?

New Approach won the Vodafone Derby, Nadal won the French Open, Euro 08 kicked off and i had a Dominos pizza last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 09, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 09, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: youngfella on June 09, 2008, 12:10:39 AM
Any news from the weekend?

New Approach won the Vodafone Derby, Nadal won the French Open, Euro 08 kicked off and i had a Dominos pizza last night.

Happydays lad sounds like you had a 'crackin' weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on June 09, 2008, 02:28:59 PM
Does anyone know who won the Feis Cup Final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 09, 2008, 02:35:43 PM
Loughgeil won - think there was 3/4 points in it in the end. All men stayed on the pitch which is a win in itself.

Pretty stale affair slightly lit up by a few fine scores from Winker Watson (amazing when he applies himself and if he had more support Loughgeil would be dangerous).
Dunloy hit an awful lot of wides in the first half and although firing on no cylinders they weren't too far away in the end which doesn't really bode well for Loughgeil.

Shame Dunloy didn't win it at their home pitch and for their centenary but aside from being a good festival there are more important things ahead.

All county players played and came through unscathed. Neil McGarry too injured to play v Derry last week but player last night and looked solid enough against Dick.

Think Ballycastle won both under 16 and under 18 competitions...their youth structures (which I assume they must have in place) will hopefully start to bear fruit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 09, 2008, 04:57:51 PM
Kettle maybe would be contending with Delargy for that slot but not McCambridge. He is not a corner back.
Full Back maybe or a half back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 10, 2008, 08:33:06 AM
also noticed Neil McGarry was captain of the Loughgiel side on sunday evening also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 10, 2008, 09:10:12 AM
Noticed that as well. Suppose fair enough.
Some turn around for a man brought off after 20 mins of a county final not so long ago.

Any word on Magill's injury then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
According to todays Irish News Magills injury is worse than expected and he could be out for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 10, 2008, 12:51:47 PM
Guys

I have to play devils advocate here, he was on the football panel and trained with the hurlers on the morning of their game and on the day of the hurlers game he played in a game for his club.

What is this guy thinking? Can you honestly see shefflin turning out for his club on the day of a championship game?

And dont give me all this he was serving his club and he was doing the right thing. We as antrim people invest a hell of alot of time money and effort to get our county teams ready for the big days like he has been invovled in and he has shown that preparation of months absolutely no respect at all by his actions.

Im not saying that his injury is anything to do with turning out for his club but its the idea of the best preparation that he so badly failed to get on board with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 10, 2008, 01:13:51 PM
Magill I'm sure was put under pressure to play/train for both teams throughout the season. Common sense should have prevailed and allowances regarding training should be implemented to accommodate players who have the ability to play hurling and football for his county. He's obviously talented at both, fit and keen to play. Is there any need to make all the sessions, or is it a strict rule to not play players who wont commit to one code?

As regards to injuries and in particular Magills' players at that level always pick up injuries. They are going full pelt all year and it happens. I wish him a speedy recovery and he's young enough. Might be early enough for him to get States side.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 10, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
Tongue firmly in cheek there milltown.

I think if the full truth was out then it would be clear that he was missing as many sessions for the hurlers as he was for the footballers. Think there was more than enough allowance made in this case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2008, 06:00:49 PM
Antrim hurling joint-manager Sambo McNaughton has revealed that former Saffrons manager Jim Nelson has become part of the county's backroom team.

McNaughton told BBC Sport Interactive that Nelson would be "an extra pair of eyes in the stand".

"He will also be a liaison officer between us and the county board," McNaughton added.

The Saffrons face a Down team in Sunday's Ulster Final who are managed by previous Antrim boss Jim McKernan.

McNaughton added:"Jim Nelson has great experience and will also be doing statistics for us and advising us if we're doing something wrong."

Nelson first managed McNaughton when the Cushendall man joined the Antrim minor panel as a 14-year-old.

"Everybody seems to be doing it (getting an advisor) and if they are doing it, they must be getting something out of it. It's another opinion from somebody you respect."

McNaughton added that Liam Watson's dismissal in Antrim's Ulster semi-final win over Derry led to the decision to bring Nelson on board.

"I thought if we had a man in the stand, we could have seen what was happening earlier.

"Watson was warned not to do it but we felt we were concentrating on the other parts of the game."

Loughgiel man Watson did receive a red card against Derry but he will be eligible to line out in Sunday's provincial decider at Casement.

In his interview with BBC Sport Interactive, McNaughton pointedly mentioned that Down have trained at the west Belfast venue on as many occasions this year as his team.

"We are on the phone every night trying to scrounge pitches and Casement is sitting empty. It would drive you up the wall."

Michael Magill is the latest Antrim player to suffer a long-term injury after suffering a muscle tear near to his Achilles tendon and calf.

McNaughton expects Magill to be out of action for rest of this summer while the Saffrons are already without Neil McManus and Neil McAuley for the remainder of the championship.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2008, 07:42:46 PM
Sounds like a pretty pointless exercise with Nelson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 10, 2008, 10:22:41 PM
The "good room" in me mothers house gets more abuse than Casement. Does the groundsman have embarassing pictures of the  county board or what is it with not letting the side train there at least once a week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 10, 2008, 10:40:14 PM
Answering y own question here but been told that the report on Magill's injury in the Irish News was crap...completely made up. He is to see specialist in Dublin over next couple of days and prognosis not known. He could be out for a while but not known yet. Must have been a slow news day.

Joke that the hurlers aren't given more access to Casement. Its a good enough pitch and could take at least the once a week access as suggested by Skull.

What was your take on the Feis final Skull?

If it stops someone getting sent off with someone (Nelson) taking a wider view of the game, and being instructed to do so, then it will work. Eg Watson getting abuse (albeit not much) then he could be instructed to take his man for a run, Richmond sent in to hit the man a shoulder, managment can draw it to the referee's attention before it spills over.
Someone might have been able to tell them with one less player v Derry to take an extra second on the ball and deliver the right pass in.
From the stand you can see patterns in the game developing whereas sometimes you are so wrapped up in the thing pitchside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2008, 11:12:20 PM
If the story in the Irish News was made up it is strange that there is a quote from Terry Mac saying he probably would not be back this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 11, 2008, 12:36:12 AM
Team for Sunday named, shows one change form the semi final demolition of Derry. E McCloskey in for M Magill

1 Riain  Mac  Fhearaiigh

2 Arron Mac Grífin
3 Seamus Mac Thaig
4 Sean Ó  Duílearga

5 Ciaran Mac Giolla Chearáin
6 Carl  Mac  Aogáin
7 Sean  Mac Cathmhaoil

8 Carl Stiobhard
9 Eamon Mac Bloscaidh

10 Micheal Mac Giolla Chearain
11 Cormac  o  Donnaille
12 Donal Mac Neachtain

13 Padraiog  de Riseamann
14 Liam Mac Uait
15 Pol   O  Siail


16 Criostoir  Ó  Conaill
17 Micheal   Mac Ambrois
18 Micheal Mac Coitíl
19 Breandán Ó  Coinne
20 Niall Mac Fhearaigh
21 Simon Mac Ruairi
22 Sean Mac Neachtain
23 Padraig Mac an Ghoill
24 Cathal Mac Amhalai
25 Micheal Mac an Ghoill
26 Padraig Seosamh Ó Conaill
27 Darren  Ó h Amaill
28 Colm O Duifinn



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 11, 2008, 10:04:19 AM
Any thoughts on the team selection Groundie?  ;)

Poor Feis final Glensman IMO but maybe's thats just from my perspective. Overall quality was poor from both sides and the shams were well worth their win. Playing winker in the corner worked well for him and we didn't deal with him well for the whole game. Thought our own play was laboured and lacked any conviction. Couldn't name anybody in the Dunloy team who had a good game...that was how bad we were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 11, 2008, 11:23:42 AM
Not far off exactly what I thought Skull.
Was a very poor game and no one really played well for Dunloy (the again no one played that great for the Bodies bar Winker in patches and their wee corner back no 2 on Ally).
Richmond for the first ten then he stopped, Rab made a few interceptions, Shorty cleared a bit.
Winker was on great form and Loughgeil's tactic worked really well...keeping the left half forward in field and giving them the space to hit him. Mickey McC didn't do that badly on him all things considered as he was popping them over from the sideline.

Neilly McGarry looked strong but maybe his ankle didn't pass the county fitness test.

Graffin and Delargy will have to be on form on Sunday. McKeague playing grand but a fit Magic might cause some damage if he is in there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 11, 2008, 01:48:38 PM
Feis final very poor all round.

Dunloy looked very flat compared to their usual sharp fast game. Loughgiel did hurl well in most areas of the field but this looked to be more due to dunloys lack of appetite than them physically dominating. Think the worrying thing for loughgiel would be that if dunloy has scored the penalty they would have gone on to the game which loughgiel totally and utterly dominated posession in.

Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 11, 2008, 02:36:01 PM
Casement Park - Management Committee Addresses Popular Myths
11 June 2008
Antrim County Management Committee has taken steps to dispel the popular myth that Casement Park is not available often enough for either county team training, or for various games and that it is lying empty on a regular basis.

From May 1st until today (42 days), Casement Park has hosted 16 training sessions for various teams and 8 matches. The pitch was closed for 4 days for sanding and re-sodding of the goalmouths and for 3 days for fertilising.  5 days were set aside for match preparations.

There was therefore just 8 occasions when Casement Park was not used in this time period and no request for use was received on any of these occasions.

Did the county board read this thread then make a statement??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 11, 2008, 02:38:21 PM
I would say it was more to do with the Antrim management whining about it in the press.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 11, 2008, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 11, 2008, 02:38:21 PM
I would say it was more to do with the Antrim management whining about it in the press.
You would think that the Executive and County Management would actually talk to each other rather than responding to each others comments in the press

John: "How can I help you Terence?"
Terence: "Call me Terry, John"

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 11, 2008, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 11, 2008, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 11, 2008, 02:38:21 PM
I would say it was more to do with the Antrim management whining about it in the press.
You would think that the Executive and County Management would actually talk to each other rather than responding to each others comments in the press

John: "How can I help you Terence?"
Terence: "Call me Terry, John"

;)

I think if it is a choice between a private phone call or a bit of public airtime we know what the outcome will be with those two chaps......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 11, 2008, 04:14:02 PM
always the double standards, you can say anything good about them but the minute you have something critical to say they come on complaining, i'm all for a positive imagine but if an imagine is all we've got.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 11, 2008, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 11, 2008, 02:36:01 PM
Casement Park - Management Committee Addresses Popular Myths
11 June 2008
Antrim County Management Committee has taken steps to dispel the popular myth that Casement Park is not available often enough for either county team training, or for various games and that it is lying empty on a regular basis.

From May 1st until today (42 days), Casement Park has hosted 16 training sessions for various teams and 8 matches. The pitch was closed for 4 days for sanding and re-sodding of the goalmouths and for 3 days for fertilising.  5 days were set aside for match preparations.

There was therefore just 8 occasions when Casement Park was not used in this time period and no request for use was received on any of these occasions.



Quote from: milltown row on June 11, 2008, 04:14:02 PM
always the double standards, you can say anything good about them but the minute you have something critical to say they come on complaining, i'm all for a positive imagine but if an imagine is all we've got.........


I don't see any complaints in the county boards statement milltown?  surely if they feel they were being wrongly ciriticised they are within their rights to offer an explanation/defence before people start pedalling it as fact?

dammed if you do, dammed if you don;t...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 12, 2008, 08:22:19 AM
Podge so your of the opinion that we cant voice anything that IMO is different from the counties view?

i thought the way the county board handled the Galls men opting out this year was a PR disater, seems strange how the press knew straight away, the day after the meeting, a friend of Jodys ran with the story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 12, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
Milltown,

I think you will find that the PR disaster was actually on the four opt outs rather than the county board.
Porbably mis managed by the county but something that essentially was outside their remit of control.

as for casement think this is a statement just to show the actuall useage of the pitch to show that it is not being held back from our teams for any reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
That's a strange comment Milltown. Surely it's just human nature to defend yourself when someone is having a go.Also if someone says something good then what do you expect them to do?? Not sure what your definition of double standards is but double standards would hardly be say nothing when you're praised and say something when you're not??

Anyway -big game this weekend. Realistically this is the only one left we can win. If we don't win this I'd be gutted to to be honest. Down are ok but they're a team we should be beating with a bit to spare. I still worry about our forwards. Realistically you only have two scoring forwards in there in Richmond and Watson. McNaughton is really a midfielder and Donnelly is definitely not a forward. Paul Shields is potentially a HB too and I think it's really where we play him a lot. Still it's the best we've got to offer but hopefully Paddy Magill can come in too. Antrim by 6...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 12, 2008, 10:25:42 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 12, 2008, 08:22:19 AM
Podge so your of the opinion that we cant voice anything that IMO is different from the counties view?

i thought the way the county board handled the Galls men opting out this year was a PR disater, seems strange how the press knew straight away, the day after the meeting, a friend of Jodys ran with the story.

can you not read milltown?  where did i object to anyone voicing an opinion?  you came on here criticising the county board for offering an explanation on the availability of casement park and you said they 'come on complaining'.  I just pointed out that they weren;t complaining at all, merely defending their position.  voice away at your opionion, just try and ensure it makes some kinda sense..present a 'positive imagine'  ::) of yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 13, 2008, 11:35:50 AM
see this got a wee line or two on the county page...

All Ireland Senior Hurling Qualifier - Date & Time Released
28/06/08 (Sat)

GAA Hurling All Ireland Senior Championship Qualifier

Round 1

Casement        3.30pm            Aontroim        v          Gaillimh                     

Park                                        Referee:          Johnny Ryan (Tiobraid Árann)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2008, 11:58:51 AM
i'm in my moons :'( dont be listening to me......

Lack of games these last couple of weeks going through cold turkey. 

good to see everyone backing the county. i hope the trend continues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 13, 2008, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 13, 2008, 11:58:51 AM
i'm in my moons :'( dont be listening to me......

Lack of games these last couple of weeks going through cold turkey. 

good to see everyone backing the county. i hope the trend continues

OK. You're just getting booked this time.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 13, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
PWTW1st

Maybe we should bring jim nelson in to keep an eye on him and move him if he starts to rare up again!




Did you ever in your life hear so much balls.

If the two boys would stand back and watch the game then maybe they would be able to see the patterns developing and the childish behaviour as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 13, 2008, 02:08:53 PM
NAG - nothing can happen as yet re the J Nelson / Milltown Row cunning plan that you've developed. This is because Milltown won't be wielding the caman till he gets the circus off his pitch !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2008, 02:13:30 PM
the circus has gone and left behind the same shitty pitch, hopefully we will invest the rent on it to improve it. carefull Nag an PWTW cards will be shown to both of you ;D

On the Jim Nelson thing however:

Having someone in the stand watching the game is nothing new, clubs having been doing it for years. It works well in pre-season or league games where the stakes aren't that high and it gives the manager, who may not be able see everything another view on the game. The problem when it comes to the Championship games is that the game goes that quick incidents are happening all over the park, and before you know it the game is over.

If Sambo and Woody listen to Jim then grand and make a switch but it very rarely happens. When we played Loughgiel in the semis a few years ago we had someone in the stand and didn't listen to him. Maybe if we had, the result could have been different.

Personally I think it's a good idea but only if you use it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
Would agree with NAG, a load of nonsense. If you are going to have someone in this role why wait until our season is almost over. Why not have them in place at the start of the year, some of the decisions by this management have been mind boggling........It is unconfirmed that Kilkenny have someone in their management team sticking their hand into the fire and Antrim are looking for someone to fulfil a similar role.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 13, 2008, 03:32:17 PM
I've just had a brillant idea.

Why not bring back both Jim Nelson and Jim McKernan ?? Put the 2 of them in the stand & that'lll give S&W a fair insight into the game on Sunday. Jim McK would be able to "liaise" with the county board........the Down one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2008, 08:29:11 AM
FQ is the new full time county sec, don't think I'll be bothering with too much county business on behalf of my club. If you're not in his inner circle you're not on the radar is my experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 14, 2008, 08:43:58 AM
I thought he worked for the Ulster Council,is he combining both posts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 14, 2008, 12:09:12 PM
He was Minder but he applied for this job so he'll leaving the Ulster Council job to take up this job.

Anyway here's his minor team for Sunday.......

Antrim Minor Hurling Team v Down 15.06.08
14 June 2008
1 E Ó Giolláin Eoin Gillan Ruairi Og, Cushendall 
2 C Mag Aonasa Christopher Mc Guinness O Donovan Rossa
3 C Mac Giolla Aoláin Conor Mc Cleland Gortnamona
4 C Mac Fhionnlaoich Ciaran Mc Kinley Shamrocks, Loughgiel
5 T Mac Bhloscaidh Tony Mc Closkey (Capt) Shamrocks, Loughgiel
6 S Ó Seanáin Stephen Shannon O Donovan Rossa
7 M O Loinsigh Mark Lynch Lámh Dhearg
8 A Ó Dúnaigh Adrian Downey Naomh Eoin
9 C Mac Concharraige Conor Rocks O Donovan Rossa
10 M O Doibhilin Michael Devlin Naomh Brid
11 P Ó Dalaigh Peter Dallat Mc Quillians, Ballycastle
12 M Ó Dalaigh Michael Dallat Mc Quillians, Ballycastle
13 G Ó Laibheartaigh Gerald Laverty Mc Quillians, Ballycastle
14 C Mac Giolla Chaoin Carlin Coyle Shamrocks, Loughgiel
15 M O Labhrai Trean Michael Armstrong O Donovan Rossa
16 M Mac Donnchaidh Mark Donaghy Ruairi Og, Cushendall 
17 P Mac Thaidhg Peter Mc Keague Cuchullians, Dunloy
18 T Mac Alastair Terry Mc Alister Ruairi Og, Cushendall 
19 S Corra John Kerr O Donovan Rossa
20 S O Dochartaigh James Doherty Naomh Brid
21 S  Doibin Seamus Dobbin Shamrocks, Loughgiel
22 E O Laibheartaigh Eoin Laverty Ruairi Og, Cushendall 
23 A  O Coscraigh Aaron Cosgrove Oisin, Glenariffe
24 T Mac Fhearaigh Turlough Mc Carry Shamrocks, Loughgiel

25 C Ó Ciarain Chris Kearns Cuchullians, Dunloy
26 C Ó Cuinn Christopher Quinn Shamrocks, Loughgiel
27 B Mag Uidhrin Brendan Mc Givern Naomh Enda
28 M O Doibhilin Mathew Devlin O Donovan Rossa
29 C Mac Donaill Kevin Mc Donnell Oisin, Glenariffe



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Good spread of clubs across that minor team (even though Dunloy has no one on the starting 15. This is ultimately what is needed at Senior level.

Also heard that the Loughgiel 1983 AI Club Championship winning team will be coming out at half time due to it being the 25 anniversary. I'll be keeping my hands in my pockets but I genuinely hope they get well received by those who haven't had to endure the taunts over the years.

Good luck to both sides tomorrow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on June 14, 2008, 09:41:07 PM
Antrim u15s beat Down u15s by nine today in Woodlawns, both teams beat Armagh and Derry diddnt show
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 15, 2008, 12:05:21 AM
Is Ciaran McKinley on the county minors a son of Gerards who played on that 83 loughgiel team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2008, 12:30:45 PM
No relation at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 15, 2008, 06:11:57 PM
Just back. Seniors poor, sluggish, second to every ball, kept in it by Karl Mc Keegans frees. No passion, no atmosphere, nothing at all to excite. A poor spectacle.

What must the great Mick O Connell have thought, having to sit through the likes of that!

Fair play big time to the speed and all round performance of our minors, quicker and more cohesion all over the pitch, with some great hurling, scores etc. The wee lad mentioned in the above post, number four, Ciaran Mc Kinleys performance worth the admission money alone!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 15, 2008, 08:22:15 PM
Have to agree with groundlie...awful awful performance. Even when we were getting beaten by Kilkenny & Cork by large amounts in the league there was still better performances than what we witnessed today. Who could you say performed well..maybe stewart & watson in the 2nd half...thats about it. The forwards were poor again like the Derry match but the backs were dodgy as well....especially in the first half, any ball going in looked like a goal was on. If a pretty poor Down team can score 2-16 what will Joe Canning, Hayes & co manage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 16, 2008, 01:04:40 AM
Jesus was it that bad? Is the result not all that matters, the chuckle brothers can work on issues for the next game. Anyone up in the north, know how pinky and micky are doing? Is Neal mcauley still buggered?

I agree with ya that hippy is being played out of position and should be brought back down the field or on to the bench, hes still a teenager and can learn plenty yet! Allow sambo would prob have something to say about that.

If the drills are pants and the boys are up for it, why doesnt sambo use one of his contacts and get some big name into train the lads for a few sessions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2008, 08:30:04 AM
Was at the match yesterday,  dodgy goals in he first half aside Down were rubbish (no offence Down posters) Antrim came down the steps at the start lacklustre with a sense of not being bothered no noise coming from the dressing room. I don't know Sambo's style in preparing the team before the game but i believe if your playing in a Provincial Final they need to be pumped up and raring to go. No our Antrim dandered down the steps chatting to each other.

Whereas the Down team stayed in the changing room got pumped up and came out and scored two goals and a few points against the wind!!!

Second half we pulled away and played good hurling until maybe the last 7 minutes, by that time Antrim had put on all the subs and Down also put on all subs.  The tactic in the second half threw Jingo I think playing the two up front give us two goals and closed down the space for Down up front. I wonder did Jim Nelson give that call.

On the minor game I thought that the number four was outstanding for Antrim and Shannon is a class act, believe he's minor next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 16, 2008, 09:15:50 AM
Yet another poor unmotivated uninspiring performance from a team that look to be going no where and look to be completely lacking leadership.

where was the person or persons to grab the game yesterday by the scruff of the neck and drive antrim forward. I think that we dont have a single player of that nature on the team at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2008, 09:40:09 AM
did ya notice that Micko and Wilson were holding hands a lot ;)

think this was a tactic of Wilsons to stop Micko punching the air when he hit the ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 16, 2008, 10:20:24 AM
The ego is bigger than the man is the problem.

I dont think there was much room for celebrating at any stage of yesterdays game to be honest!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2008, 10:26:14 AM
QuoteIf the drills are pants and the boys are up for it, why doesnt sambo use one of his contacts and get some big name into train the lads for a few sessions?

He can get Jonny Tosh on 0282177... ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2008, 10:50:41 AM
I think it is time for the vociferous critics of antrim hurling, and Sambo and particular, to come out and congratulate the squad and management on yet another victorious assault on Ulster. We're waiting Minder...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 16, 2008, 10:57:20 AM
I wonder do the players and in particular the two players that went to the press pleading for the current management team to be installed feel that they have taken them to the "next level" as they spoke about at the time, perhaps when they spoke about the next level they meant Division 2 National League hurling.............As for your post Tony Baloney, i always give credit.......where its due.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 16, 2008, 11:08:37 AM
What abuse Colonel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 16, 2008, 11:14:40 AM
Credit for taking us backwards tony?

Believe me it is not with any pleasure that I have criticised players or management on here. But when we are fed so much bullshit about the way forward then it comes to this then something has to be said.

I think the good doctor has to take responsibility for the two players, he was using them likes puppets while controlling what they were saying.

On another note good to see another bright appointment by antrim in FQ in the permanent sec, is it just me or is this meri-go-round of jobs starting to get on anyones goat. If your working for ulster council and have the inside track with the committe surely then there should be someone else carrying out the interview process or is it ok for UC to hand pick their coven!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2008, 11:22:51 AM
now lads dont be getting on Antrim back, i had a go last week but i'm better now.

antrim will raise their game come Galway, the problem is they need ten games a year at that standard to be prepared for that intensity.

we hopefully wil last 50 minutes at being competitive, the 7 man defence worked well in the second half

colonel: your right Woody and Jim Nelson should also be in there but Sambo is quicker to type :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 16, 2008, 11:23:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 16, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
QuoteI agree with ya that hippy is being played out of position and should be brought back down the field or on to the bench, hes still a teenager and can learn plenty yet! Allow sambo would prob have something to say about that


Quote
don't know Sambo's style in preparing the team before the game but i believe if your playing in a Provincial Final they need to be pumped up and raring to go. No our Antrim dandered down the steps chatting to each other.


He/they would have to be pretty precious if that was viewed as serious criticism.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 16, 2008, 11:27:07 AM
Did i mention Antrim or the doctor on the panel, its more with UC hand picking these individuals for highly paid posts because they ultimately know where their loyalty lies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 16, 2008, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: NAG on June 16, 2008, 11:27:07 AM
Did i mention Antrim or the doctor on the panel, its more with UC hand picking these individuals for highly paid posts because they ultimately know where their loyalty lies.

Have to agree NAG, it is a case of who you know not what you know, nothing against Frankie as he is a good lad but there is not much transparency about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2008, 11:32:27 AM
A poor game which didn't seem to get going even given that the scoreline was reasonably close throughout.

From a Down viewpoint, no real outstanding performances from anyone but young Woods did well enough as did conor O'Prey when brought on to follow Paul Shields when he dropped deep early in the second half scoring three points from play. At least Jingo had a plan in place for a very obvious Antrim tactic unlike in recent years.

Murph coughed up his usual goal to Paddy Richmond by playing way out in front of him, if it works for you you're a great fella but if you get caught out then its good night irene. Wee Liams positional sense let him down way too often yesterday again. His cousin Gabriel was his lax self, playing tippy tappy hurling and would of been cleaned out if Mick Herron had his shooting boots on. Big Courtney did well when Antrim were pucking long with the wind in the first half and dominated Winker in the air but struggled more in the second half when the balls were played either side of him into the corners. He wasn't help by Ruairi McGrattan who was a busted flush 10 minutes into the second half, he wasn't fit enough for midfield yesterday, but he was direct enough when on the ball and when his race was run should of been called ashore. McGourty did reasonably well but in the same breath Ciaran Herron was probably the pick of the Antrim defence and got two points from play (I think!), so his man marking was suspect yet again. Dule was lively and only really threatened when moved into fullforward but he tries to do it all himself and was easily closed down at times. Eoin Clarke offered nothing again yesterday and his size will always mitigate against him especially on a team who're struggling to put in quality ball to their forwards. Jnigo should reassess his forwards and get another ball winner in there as they can't afford to be carrying too many light hurlers in the Christy Ring.

Antrim did just enough yesterday but they'll need to address a few issues of their own before Galway and Waterford come to town. Midfield was average enough, young Donnelly done nothing yesteray, Micko needs to work on his accuracy and the fullback line need to get a better understanding under dropping balls. Much work still ahead for Terence and Dominic.

In general the game lacked intensity and a fellow spectator blamed the Ref for not letting it flow and for blowing any form of physical contact, he might have a point as I'm no big fan of Gerry Devlin but if the referee was to let it go a bit Down would be sorely lacking in the physicality stakes with this bunch of players and Antrim would probably have won by more.
For the greater good I'd like to see more let go but as one ref pointed out to me before that the onus is as much on the players to accept greater physical contact without retaliating to prevent the game getting out of control. In Munster championship games more is let go and its just accepted by players and all as part of the game and the game is a better spectacle for it. It's a bit chicken and egg scenario but what do the rest of you think?

Also what was the ballsup with the starting time yesterday, Antrim were ready of a 3.30pm throw in and Down for 3.45pm!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 16, 2008, 11:51:19 AM
Well said JC and agree with most of what you said although Brenden McGourty was on Johnny Campbell & not Ciaran Herron(scored 1 point) who was quite poor yesterday. Obviously Magic would be another ball winner for yous & could have caused massive bother for Antrim especially in the first half.

Antrim have been looking forward to the Galway match for the last few months & will be up for it alot more(I Hope) & will need to improve hugely on yesterdays performance.

In todays Irish news the Down minor manager said Down minors were better than Antrim.  :D  Now if it was 2 or 3 points in it but the score was 3-18 to 0-5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 16, 2008, 11:51:19 AM


In todays Irish news the Down minor manager said Down minors were better than Antrim.  :D  Now if it was 2 or 3 points in it but the score was 3-18 to 0-5.

This was a much vaunted down minor team that took a fair hammering yesterday. I didn't see that game so can't comment too much but from what I've seen from our club minors is that they aren't physically strong and don't have the first clue about how to use their bodies that well. Its something we used to learn the hard way when once you turned 15 you trained with the senior team but now the club has got more sophisticated and they only train in their own age group. whilst their stickwork may be better, the dark arts aren't being passed on.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 16, 2008, 12:06:24 PM
correct Johnny, my own club has banned the minors from playing the senior grades this year till championship is over. back in the day you were playing senior at 16 and didn't miss a match.

cotton wool the kids are wrapped up in now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2008, 04:48:08 PM
Groundlie maybe they have lost the dressing room and maybe they haven't. Starting to question their academic ability is a bit much and your dig about them as players is also ill formed. Sambo has an all star and did plenty. Woody may - maybe someone can verify this - have an AI club medal. That is all irrelevant to their management anyway.

Sambo does on occasion say stupid stuff yes and perhaps could have a bit of an ego but no matter what he's put a lot into hurling and deserves some credit for it.

There was no way we were ever going to be in a position after this length of time to challenge big guns. Yes people have left the panel but some of those are people who weren't longer term in plans and it happens everywhere - why would you sit about when you know you'll be on the bench.

I firmly believe a) Jingo shouldn't have been ousted when he was and b) these boys took over far far too early for their great plan and should have concentrated on u21s first however they do deserve some support and backing. You sound like a bitter man.

The sad truth is that we are far too good for the teams beneath us - including Down - and far too poor for the teams above us. Sometimes you can understand why players would lose heart.

The main gripe I would have with those two is that they shouldn't be playing Donnelly up forwards - they are potentially ruining a very good player there. However they do deserve support and not petty insults.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2008, 05:24:08 PM
The u21 scene in the football and hurling needs serious looking at.

The same management shouldn't be in charge of both senior and u21 - the football was a disaster this year too. The management shouldn't have been in the position - in either - to have to manage the two teams.

It's frustrating yes but not enough to make you bitter. Ultimately if the young teams were as good as they were built up to be they'd have beat Derry anyway IMO - that's what worries me. Yes they could and should have done better but there's been a lot of hype and I'm not sure the batch of players merit it. Liam Watson / Paddy Richmond aside there's not a county standard forward in the club scene under the age of 35 as far as I can see.  A team won't beat southern teams / maybe even northern ones without these.

The new batch seem to have an abundance of defenders / midfielders. Yes Eddie McCloskey, Donnelly,Paul Shields, McManus,Magill,Graffin etc are useful but where are the out and out forwards?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 17, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
Antrim are the England of the hurling scene - have some good players and can talk a great game, have a solid club infrastructure compared to those around them and reminisce with rose tinted glasses about the great victories (y) of yesteryear.

However, they struggle to make any impact when it counts on a consistent basis - though will spring an odd good result and catch one of the top teams on the hop.

I feel that Antrim fans have expectations that are far too high - talking about going to play in Leinster because competition is not enough in Ulster.  Get a grip.  I thought that maybe the Derry game was a one off but then to give a repeat performance against a similarly average Down team - get with reality lads - Antrim Hurling is not at the standard you believe it to be....!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 17, 2008, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 17, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
Antrim are the England of the hurling scene - have some good players and can talk a great game, have a solid club infrastructure compared to those around them and reminisce with rose tinted glasses about the great victories (y) of yesteryear.

However, they struggle to make any impact when it counts on a consistent basis - though will spring an odd good result and catch one of the top teams on the hop.

I feel that Antrim fans have expectations that are far too high - talking about going to play in Leinster because competition is not enough in Ulster.  Get a grip.  I thought that maybe the Derry game was a one off but then to give a repeat performance against a similarly average Down team - get with reality lads - Antrim Hurling is not at the standard you believe it to be....!

you have a point but I do think that Antrim need a fresh challenge and maybe Leinster is the answer. Whilst they won't be challenging Kilkenny any time soon, they're every bit as good as Laois and not a million miles away from Wexford, Offaly and Dublin if they get their act together.
Antrim done just enough on Sunday but that doesn't mean they haven't got more in them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 17, 2008, 02:26:09 PM
This talk of going into leinster is a smoke screen for the bad job that S&W are doing in preparing this team, there wasnt any mention of this moving down south when other managers were in place and I feel its being used to hide behind.

If we are good enough to be going into leinster then surely we should be beating our near neighbhours off the field and this isnt happening at the moment.

Stop hiding behind it and get on with some work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2008, 04:02:14 PM
Begs the question: Who is good enough to prepare an Antrim team properly and would be prepared to do it if asked.
Not too many with the credentials and the will to take it on IMO. On that basis I find it difficult to gripe about what could be a very real truth regarding preparation, but what are you gonna do if better options aren't available  ??? ???

There comes a point where you have to value what people are trying to achieve whenever the skill levels you would ultimately desire do not exist. I think S&W do get the rough end of the stick from people (although I can see where S tee's himself up for it) who if they took on the same job would only then appreciate the difficulties and most likely do worse.

Far too easy to snipe IMO (I may of course change my mind tomorrow :))
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 17, 2008, 04:08:16 PM
Skull

IM seriously not sniping and I take your point of who would do better.

But to shaft the last manager to get taking this team and to tell us that they were the answer and then to deliver the kind of performances that they have IMO is not really on. Its maybe more to do with the fact that they raised expectation and then not to follow through is very disappointing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2008, 04:16:05 PM
If we were in Leinster then we would have a hell of a lot more motivation IMO.

The current motivation we would have is to compete with teams - and to be honest the best we could hope to do with Galway / Waterford would be to compete. If we went to Leinster we could realistically get to compete and maybe on occassions beat Wexford / Offaly / Dublin. We know we can forget about Kilkenny but so can everyone so no biggie there.

Kilkenny do win Leinster easy every year granted but you have to consider they have two motivating factors - one it is immensely difficult to make the team so everyone has to be on their toes at all times and two groundwork to win a championship has to begin early in the year so they have to go in prepared now or they may suffer later on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 17, 2008, 06:33:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2008, 04:16:05 PM
If we were in Leinster then we would have a hell of a lot more motivation IMO.

The current motivation we would have is to compete with teams - and to be honest the best we could hope to do with Galway / Waterford would be to compete. If we went to Leinster we could realistically get to compete and maybe on occassions beat Wexford / Offaly / Dublin. We know we can forget about Kilkenny but so can everyone so no biggie there.

Kilkenny do win Leinster easy every year granted but you have to consider they have two motivating factors - one it is immensely difficult to make the team so everyone has to be on their toes at all times and two groundwork to win a championship has to begin early in the year so they have to go in prepared now or they may suffer later on.

Rubbish

Should we move kilkenny to munster then? Why should a county player need motivation? The jersey alone should be the motivation!! Kilkenny players dont seem to need motivation when they are beating wex and offaly every year by 20 and 30 points!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2008, 06:35:47 PM
All this talk about entering Leinster is a bit of a smokescreen and a cop out,has competing in Leinster helped improve Wexford,Offaly in the last 7 or 8 years. . . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2008, 08:32:59 PM
Well if Antrim were at the level they were at we'd all be a lot happier. Look at the strides Dublin are making. If we were to move to Leinster it should be for minor etc too.

We are learning nothing, absolutely nothing, in Ulster. The only learning point we have had this year were the league and that trophy we won - I can't for the life of me mind the name of it now. I don't see what we have learnt in Ulster. What we learn from here on in well we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2008, 10:34:24 PM
Its not as if we are not getting top level competition,we have been in Division 1 on and off for 25yrs,im not sure we have learnt much there bar the odd result. Its too much of a cop out to just say move to Leinster. A more pressing need is to get a strong domestic league with competitive,intense matches at regular intervals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron exile on June 17, 2008, 10:53:23 PM
Amazed that there has been no comment about the captain of the team Sean Delargy getting married and missing possibly the only two All Ireland Hurling championship games v Galway and prob Waterford due to a 2 week honeymoon.
I'll make little comment other than to suggest that this epitomises why Antrim hurling is going nowhere at senior inter-county level. this wouldn't happen in a Rackard Cup county in the 26 never mind one of the top counties from Munster or Leinster. Should be possible to arrange your personal life around the inter-county scene or else give up pretending to have some sort of commitment to your county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2008, 11:11:07 PM
Yeah......should have been using the down game to prepare a team for the Waterford & Galway matches. If Sean won't be there then it's saying to me that the management didn't feel that they could beat Down without him. :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2008, 11:32:03 PM
Fair enough maybe the management maybe should have tried someone else in the Ulster Championship instead of Sean...similar to what Paddy Richmond last year but to say Sean isnt commited to the county team is a joke & a disgrace IMHO. He trains hard & doesnt mess about( drinking etc).

I think we should move down to Leinster from Minor up....even a 3-5 year trial. We're not improving where we are so whats to lose??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2008, 11:54:42 PM
Agree TH FFS. Sean Delargy puts the effort in and I for one wouldn't begrudge him for making his plans to suit himself for once.

I have to laugh though when people think that going into leinster will magically improve the standard of hurling in Antrim. Yes it will give us better games to prepare for at County level but if the competition and coaching standards aren't right at club level then we'll still fall short year on year. Sure Dublin have been in leinster for a few years more than us so why have they been in the wilderness for years and are only starting to become a serious hurling side now? Because they've played in Leinster all these years  ??? I don't think so. Dublin have been working solidly on their coaching structures and standards for a good few years now and are only starting to see the results of these efforts (I really hope they develop as a hurling county). Yes we would benefit from playing in Leinster ONLY IF the ground work has been done inside the county beforehand. We shouldn't abdicate the control of the standards of our game to either the County Management or the particular Provincial competition we play in. It starts from the ground up and needs many people to play a part in improving the thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 18, 2008, 09:59:30 AM
Jaysus its like big brother in here! I dont know what the solution is, but I no to be antrim manager is a thankless task. Anyway, What does the club championship start? Whos looking the fav at the minute? any dark horses?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 18, 2008, 10:17:55 AM
We had a few U12s from our club down in Dublin yesterday as part of a greater Belfast select team. They were beaten by the Dubs by something like 4.07 to 1.01. Granted our fellas hadn't played together before and maybe the Dublin team has done but it was apparent that they were much further on than us in terms of their hurling development. Agree with Skull, the benchmarks will have to be looked at at this level and take it from there.
I would say Loughgiel and St.Johns are the only clubs that are taking an analytical approach to juvenile coaching but unless the rest of Antrim is brought with them then all their work will be for nothing. Maybe they will have to move to Leinster as well. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2008, 10:28:34 AM
from a belfast point of view, Gorts are also doing the ground work in hurling, but it's keeping them thats the problem in Belfast and i'm sure in North Antrim till they reach seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 18, 2008, 11:09:32 AM
I know what you are saying Milltown but I think we have relied on this cop out for too long in Antrim. I coach at juvenile level and the average standard of hurling is poor. I see too many kids not holding their stick properly to lift a ball, swapping hands over, poor footwork to name a few. Coaching are letting these kids down by letting them develop bad habits and just get a team out and as for them drifting away at minor, I feel it is the job of a good coach and willing assistants to make sure they make their minors feel valued and loyal to their club. Granted none of this is easy to sorted given that so much is being done by so few.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2008, 11:26:44 AM
Saffron Exile
Paddy Richmond is the captain of the team.
Wedding plans are made a year or more in advance, Sean Delargy wasn't in a position to be able to judge exactly when the matches would be. He trains as hard as any man, harder than most and with that sacrifices will no doubt have been made in relation to his fiance, soon to be wife. Some things (very very few) are more important than hurling.

I don't want to appear to be a White Knight for certain people (defending Sean Delargy and then on the Antrim football site another player) but on a personal level those two player epitomise what we need more of and ALSO it should be about the bigger picture. 1 man being away and we should have a ready replacement to come in...do we?!
It would suggest bigger issues than 2 players making plans.
On one level it doesn't show much foresight by W&S not to play Kettle for example instead with Delargy being away...on another they are judged on results and the temptation is always there to put out what you feel is your best team.

It brings another question I suppose which is relevant to Antrim and notably this year.
Where do you draw the line with players? Do you give them alot of rope to hang themselves with (god knows some don't need much) or do you not give them the freedom to do so.
I remember last year our manager asked us for our holiday plans in about April...I was like "This is a bit mad"...but it became pretty clear that he was just using a little bit of foresight to prepare, which became very necessary.

It does become your life...you are planning months in advance about a couple of dates. Now I wouldn't change it but to look at it from the other side we must be looked at in a strange light...one guy is getting married and one guy is taking a break from football to work in America for a break from uni.
(getting paid for play in America is another level of this debate).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 18, 2008, 11:40:23 AM
Some of you guys thought I was harsh in my criticism of S&W but with the news of Delargy going away do you not think that this proves my point that these managers lack a lot of the fundamentals of training a team?

Kettle, McCambrige, McKeague or whoever would be Delargys replacement should have played the ulster final, maybe they only trust a certain bunch of players, i dont know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2008, 02:36:20 PM
Ok so they think that Graffin, McGarry, Delargy is their best full back line.

What would you do? You are being villified from a lot of directions (none more so that this board) and its not actually clear on what level you are being judged.
You know that you HAVE to win the Ulster championship, no question whatsoever.
Do you pick you best starting line up available at the time or do you plan ahead?

If we are being frank this year would be remembered more so for NOT winning the Ulster championship that for the Galway/Waterford results. Hopefully those are good results...
Its a bloody tough one and I know I wouldn't necessarily like to be making the decision but if I was in agreement about what I thought was my best line up with my joint manager I'd use I'd probably go for it.

Not a superb comparator but its all I can do - Man Utd playing in a league decider one week and a champions league final the week after...Evra (left back as well, see where I am going) is on international duty for the champions league final on the second week. He has been one of your most consistent, dedicated defenders this year. Has trained hard all year and due to circumstances beyond his control do you take away that opportunity of playing in the league decider because you are playing an important match a week later.
You think Ferguson, the most ruthless of them all, would do that?

He served his county well, played well all year (in my opinion) led the team to the Walsh Cup (a high point of the year) - do you deny him an Ulster Championship start?

We won it...just...lets move on and bloody get behind them.

How good would it bloody be if we beat (or ran close) both/either of Galway/Waterford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 18, 2008, 08:59:14 PM
Think this relates to Dunloy V Ballycastle last night

It has come to our attention that managers of our inter-county teams are experiencing difficulty in organising meaningful training sessions due to rearranged club fixtures being organised in direct conflict with scheduled training times.

This is making preparation of our teams extremely difficult and is a matter of extreme frustration. Extensive negotiations between all our county managers and CCC occurred at the beginning of the year to ensure minimal disruption to club activity and particularly to facilitate county players being available to their clubs, for virtually all of their league matches. Generally these discussions have prevented any substantial disruption to club activity because of our county team commitments.

It is therefore extremely frustrating that we find clubs are now rearranging fixtures, particularly Ulster fixtures and that these arrangements directly clash with inter-county training schedules.

Consequently and in accordance with Rule 118, we must now rule that senior inter-county players will not be available for any club fixtures for 13 days prior to an inter-county championship game. We have little doubt that clubs will insist that this Rule is implemented prior to club championship games.

We have no objection to clubs playing any fixture in this time-frame, provided they are aware that inter-county players will not be available for these games. However, if we learn of a situation where an inter-county player is pressurised by his club to play any such fixture, we will either postpone this fixture if it is an Antrim fixture, or we will insist that Ulster Council refuse to sanction the playing of such a fixture should it be under their control.

We would remind clubs that any fixture that is not sanctioned by the appropriate governing body is not covered for insurance purposes.

We regret that we have been forced into issuing this directive, but it is clear that our attempts to act in good faith are not being reciprocated. Our county senior hurlers are about to face the two most important matches of the season within the next 3 weeks and we have a responsibility to ensure that every effort is taken to allow for optimal preparation for these games.


Seamus O'Muiri Runai

Sean MacSparain Cathaoirleach
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2008, 10:17:11 PM
In fairness both teams should have played without their County men last night as it was an UHL match and each had plenty of bodies along the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 18, 2008, 11:47:43 PM
The only thing Johnny Ping enjoys more than a pair of wrap around shades is a press release
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2008, 08:36:03 AM
thats pants, the game is not till the 28th and they expect the clubs to do without their main players!!!! we played Gorts last night and won because our county player was playing on a different level.

the county team have a serious training programme laid out in prep for Galway, injuries i'm sure will come out of this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on June 19, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
What was your game last night Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2008, 09:31:08 AM
div2/3 league game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 19, 2008, 09:41:26 AM
Well your game was different milltown and in those circumstances Karl had to play when the game was fixed. But I presume the clubs arranged the fixture? Obviously one of the reasons why the county has re-enforced the rule
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2008, 10:27:10 AM
not sure Skull, but it was in the county website from last week. very young Gorts team, still very light but plenty of promise. think the pitch is too small for hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 19, 2008, 11:31:27 AM
Yet another smoke screen of why the team is so badly prepared, oh we couldnt organise meaningful training sessions.

They have had from october last year to organise enough sessions to be better than they were last sunday, maybe playing in a club game would actually help the county players realise what it is all about.

I am getting fed up to the back teeth with this BS we are being constantly fed by sambo and the good doctor.

In reference to SD yes of course the man is entitled to get married when he decides but if this is mid season then any manager worth his salt would be looking for a replacement. I can think of another guy who was constantly vilified on here for taking holidays during the year but dont think he ever missed an antrim match for one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 20, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2008, 12:19:12 PM
QuoteI can think of another guy who was constantly vilified on here for taking holidays during the year but dont think he ever missed an antrim match for one.

who was this NAG,

holidays are different to weddings, you have to consider bride, availability of venues, family able to attend etc, holidays can be easily booked last min. All weddings these days are booked at least a yr in advance i'm sure, well before fixtures came out.

and i have said before the management should have had this in mind, but if a player is asked to play of course he will say yes i want to play. especially someone like sean who played last nite against portaferry (we won after extra time) only a few days from the wedding.

What a great man, should we try and get him a knighthood?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron exile on June 20, 2008, 07:19:18 PM
Look I wasn't criticising Sean D directly, I know he's a dedicated player and devoted to the cause but it just wouldn't happen in the counties serious about winning McCarthy. Players would never organise a wedding or holidays around June or July as its pretty evident that championship will be on this period. If they were restricted to this period due to their partner's and /or family commitments they would drop out of the panel for the year or forego the honeymoon until after championship. The latter is very common at this time of year in both codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 22, 2008, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2008, 05:22:03 PM
groundlie if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute don't bother

ya grumpy old man ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2008, 12:42:40 AM
Groundlie certain players are exempt from criticism !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on June 22, 2008, 12:10:02 PM
Well lads another year, same old story. Theres no point in just going thro the old blame game. We are all to blame. Players, management, county board, clubs, underage coaching etc!! we are not producing enough quality players. We are all caught up in our own wee world only caring about winning as opposed to developing players. Our club as guilty as anyone. I fear for our lads next week. A seroius hammering in the horizon!

We got beat by glenaiffre last nite in Ulster league by point. Poor result but we were missing dd, neilly, johhny, ding, skinner, eddie, winker, napper, seamy dobbin. Life goes on. Championship is 6 weeks away.

We will have to pull out all the stops this year if we want to break our hoodoo. Feis has give us a big lift
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 22, 2008, 01:25:27 PM
those players are never missing when we play yas :-[

Championship against us you'll be fine, it'll be Dunloy you'll have to worry about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 22, 2008, 06:14:08 PM
well done milltown keep playing the poormouth, :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2008, 08:01:32 PM
Fair play to the junior Johnnies who won division 2 of the Feile today in Laois, beating Portlaoise 2-9 to 1-1. In fact, all their games looked pretty comfortable going by the final score.

That's 2 wins out of 3 finals in a row for the Johnnies in Division 2. Is it time to go up into the big bad world of Division 1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2008, 09:05:35 PM
Was it their U-16s or U-14s competing. . . . . ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2008, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 22, 2008, 09:05:35 PM
Was it their U-16s or U-14s competing. . . . . ?

Now, now. There's no need for that!!!   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 23, 2008, 02:02:19 PM
Cloot is right was it u14 or u16

It is time that the st johns club took a look at this issue it has totally tarnished their club in the eyes of hurling people all over the county province and country.

Time to take action, this win means nothing to the people of antrim because we dont know what has gone on in the back ground to achieve it.

Pity but true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 02:06:51 PM
I know, what could they possibly be learning from playing players that are not in their age group. Glory, prestige? The mentors should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2008, 02:15:02 PM
Groundlie, who are your mentors for the Feile team? Is Micky "Let them go toe to toe" Johnson still with them or is he just with the seniors? What about the fella who is banned from Camogie matches? Is he there too?

You seem to be confused Hardstation as Groundlie is from Dunloy.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 23, 2008, 03:20:39 PM
It is Micky Johnston who is the manager, his two sons play,one(one with the moustache) of them is captain. Great achievement but as NAG says it tarnished by what has happenned earlier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on June 23, 2008, 03:44:03 PM
were the St Johns caught playing ringers? anyone care to elaborate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
:). Bit of bumfluff HS. Think the mothers mascara is used to darken it up a bit.

Don't know the in's and out's of the goings on within st johns but from what I seen of this years side in the U14 final in Dunloy, they are a fantastic young team and should be commended for the way they play the game. I was really impressed with the standard of their game. Skill, commitment & intelligence throughout the pitch. Christ do we have to be negative all the time even when an Antrim team has a bit of success? Let's give the players a bit of credit here lads. They are innocent parties in the politics of any goings on and have I'm sure worked thier balls off to bring about this success. Well done I say.

The trick now will be keeping them all up through into senior level. 

Also hard luck and comiserations to Dunloy who lost in their Div 3 semi final to the eventual winners, but I hear they represented themselves very well winning two of their three games. Hears hoping they will push on from the experience.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
Anyone know the handicap odds for Antrim v Galway, im guessing Antrim (+12).............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 23, 2008, 04:04:51 PM
skull

no one is doubting the talent of this bunch because anyone who has seen them could do nothing but admire them.

Point is that anything they do is tarnished by the actions of their mentor and the club by covering it up.
All im saying is time to come clean and just admit it and take the punishment so that this does not follow these young guys all the way through their careers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2008, 05:20:26 PM
I don't buy it NAG.
Not saying that you don't have a point..you do, but you're focusing far too heavily on the negative rather than balancing your comments by giving proper consideration to the achievements of the young players. The fact that you don't makes you look like a WUM

I think you should keep the issues separate and give proper credit where it's due.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 05:41:57 PM
How can you keep the issues separate Skull? Surely they are related?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2008, 06:24:27 PM
 :D thats what I'm talkin' about

The issue with overage players has nothing to do with this years U14's (AFAIK). On that basis I think the issues should be kept separate

Give this years U14's the credit where it's due and attack st johns for 2 years ago on a different post (ala HS)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 23, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
Awk why cant we all just be friends?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2008, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2008, 06:34:42 PM
Skull, I thought it was this year that the DOB thing was about. Could be wrong but milltown brought it up in April.

Two years ago was the hotel thing.

Oh  ??? I thought it was the side which played two years ago, but was only found out this year when one of the lads with an AI Feile medal declared to Gearoid Adams that he wasn't eligible to play U16 as he was overage. Am I wrong?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2008, 09:18:39 PM
Not sure to be honest.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2008, 09:20:02 PM
Milltown has the answers i think........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 24, 2008, 01:00:45 AM
I have just heard joe cass turned out for ballycastle football team, Is this like having zidane playing for a pub team? Did anyone see the game? how will he deal with this huge step up ?  ;)

Wonder how many points a game he'll be worth to the town?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on June 24, 2008, 01:04:56 AM
Quote from: youngfella on June 24, 2008, 01:00:45 AM
I have just heard joe cass turned out for ballycastle football team, Is this like having zidane playing for a pub team? Did anyone see the game? how will he deal with this huge step up ?  ;)

Wonder how many points a game he'll be worth to the town?

As far as I am aware he has been playing all season.
This has obviously helped them in the league: Div 6 League Table (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?userid=&leaguetable=1&report=1&reporttype=results&compid=5723&countyid=1&club_id=&sportid=1)

And I also think they won the Junior Feis Football recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 24, 2008, 01:16:12 AM
lol derry senior championship too div 6 antrim football. sorry I didnt know we had a football tread, mods please move if possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on June 24, 2008, 01:18:01 AM
anyword word on how the training is looking approaching the galway game? what will jingos tatics be this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2008, 09:23:50 AM
You can take the man out of Antrim......... :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 24, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Skull
just getting a chance to reply now

I think if you look back at my comments you will see that I was totally impressed with the young lads themselves.

Being familiar with the underage system and especially the feile system it is unavoidable that the St Johns management knew this lad was over age, therefore putting them in a position of cheating.
This does nothing for the team, nor the club.

My point was that the club should just now come clean on the whole episode so that the young lads achievement of winning the Div 2 feile are not tarnished by this blatant cheating.

Thats not negative its just being fair minded, after all it was cheating!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 24, 2008, 10:36:17 AM
Paddy Richmond "doubtful" for Saturday, which i would  say means he will play......I loved this quote from Terry about Paddys "injury".....



"It can be slow to respond but, to be fair, that type of injury can come round quite quickly," he said.

Thats that cleared up.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2008, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: NAG on June 24, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Skull
just getting a chance to reply now

I think if you look back at my comments you will see that I was totally impressed with the young lads themselves.


How far back should we look NAG? This was your first post on the topic since they won it on Sunday. Are you telling me that was balanced? Catch yourself on.

Quote from: NAG on June 23, 2008, 02:02:19 PM
Cloot is right was it u14 or u16

It is time that the st johns club took a look at this issue it has totally tarnished their club in the eyes of hurling people all over the county province and country.

Time to take action, this win means nothing to the people of antrim because we dont know what has gone on in the back ground to achieve it.

Pity but true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 24, 2008, 11:17:53 AM
Well did I say anything that was out of place?

point out my incorrect statement in that post please.

Has it not tarnished the win in the eyes of hurling people?

Is it time to take action? Most certainly so.

Im thinking that if Dunloy had of been competing with this St Johns team two years ago or for any of the last couple of years we would be hearing a different tune from you.

My point is fairness should be the guiding principle in young peoples sport, if this is not present and cheating is going on blatantly then any success is in the end fruitless and unfulfilling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
Maybe you should read my posts NAG ffs

I already have said that you do have a point, but that you should have given credit to where it's due to the team which won on Sunday, rather than simply focus soley on the misdemenours of two years ago. By all means make that point, but that has got nothing to do with the young players who played at the weekend. Wrong time to make it IMO although I can't deny I didn't enjoy cloots little quip  :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 24, 2008, 11:36:18 AM
Skull

Yes i give credit where credit is due. They are a fabulous team.

But in all seriousness they still have the same management involved that blatantly cheated 2 years ago and nothing has been done about this so far, so I am not wrong to point out that it is continuing to tarnish what is certainly an exceptional team at this level.

Surely that you can see that if a guy cheated 2 years ago at this level what would be wrong with people questioning this team's authenticity? Therefore this is wrong for the young players involved who played well at the weekend, and as such I am only calling for the matter to be sorted and brought into the open so that this group of young players are no longer the butt of these types of comments or inuendo!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2008, 12:12:54 PM
Well I can personnally separate hurling ability of the team from the integrity of their mentors and I think it's only right that the two are kept separate.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 24, 2008, 12:15:07 PM
And so can I but it is for the people out there that cant that I was making the point.

The integrity of a club should never be able to be called into question like this over one mentor and I would urge the St Johns club to take serious look at this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 24, 2008, 09:31:25 PM
I would be more in agreement with Skull's side of this discussion. I seen St Johns in the county Feile final 2 years ago agaisnt Ballycastle and if they had 1 fella overage you would not have known who he was. Was really impressed with them; they had 15 good, well coached hurlers and were not relying on 2 or 3 big lads to carry them. Now don't get me wrong using overage players should not happen but in this case in my opinion the fact that they had 1 overage player should not be held against the rest of them players for their careers.

Its the mentors that should have their honesty and intergrity questioned and in fact if they had a titter of wit about them they should have seen that they were good enough without having one overage player who wasn't miles ahead of any of the rest of them.

Forgetting about all that i would still congratulate St Johns on their acheivement of being in 3 Div 2 AI Feile finals in a row and winning two of them. Commendagh also won two Div 2 finals in the early 70's so given that they were almost regarded as St Johns underage division, you could say St Johns have 4 AI Feile titles.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 25, 2008, 12:09:15 PM
Excuse my negativity again skull  :P

But this is exactly what they get for pandering to this individual again.


He kicked them in the teeth by getting sent off and has just shown total disregard for the whole set up by his actions last night.

(Before people start jumping on and saying is this true and better get it clarified, it is completely true and is being confirmed by people on and around the panel)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2008, 12:43:33 PM
Should have started with "fantastic hurler but........" NAG  ;)

Watson's a big boy and deserves all the critisism he gets. A complete soap opera. Has got away with it for years. A real negative influence on any team. Are we really surprised??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 25, 2008, 12:56:22 PM
You think he would catch himself on in the week of the Galway game!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 25, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
Aye but Limavady must be offering a big money transfer! ;)

Maybe that or a new scrambler.

Complete soap opera and time he was shown the road IMO

Totally unacceptable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 25, 2008, 02:19:22 PM
Taken a real edge of looking forward to the game.

He is a g1mp. Some player, but a g1mp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
I remember playing a game in Loughguile a few years ago and he wasnt playing for whatever reason, we went into their bar for sandwiches after it and quite a few people were standing at the bar. This was about 2.00pm on a Sunday, Master Watson was hardly fit to stand up drinking vodka and red bull pushing people out of the way that were queueing up for a drink. If somebody lifted him and f*cked him out the window onto the pitch they would have been within their rights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 25, 2008, 03:43:03 PM
But minder he's still a good hurler....................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 25, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
coulda swore I saw him at the Loughgiel v Randalstown game last night....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 25, 2008, 03:43:03 PM
But minder he's still a good hurler....................

Nobody is debating his ability, just whats between his ears.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2008, 04:20:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 25, 2008, 12:56:22 PM
You think he would catch himself on in the week of the Galway game!!

No better time to court publicity than the week of a big game, there's just some individuals like to see their name in print.

Big Geoffrey Mcgonigle was always an injury doubt the week before a big game thus ensuring he got more headlines in the irish news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 25, 2008, 04:56:52 PM
I dont think big geoffrey ever looked fit after he turned 21, :D. Having said that he was one of very few derry hurlers who put hurling on a par with football and for that i give him total respect. As for Mr Watson.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2008, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 25, 2008, 07:13:31 PM
W**ker by name

W**ker by nature.

Funny you should mentioned that groundie. I mind him winking at me one day and thought he looked like he'd been doing it all his life, though it could've been a nervous twitch. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 25, 2008, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2008, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 25, 2008, 07:13:31 PM
W**ker by name

W**ker by nature.

Funny you should mentioned that groundlie. I mind him winking at me one day and thought he looked like he'd been doing it all his life, though it could've been a nervous twitch. 

....Or maybe he had a thing for you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2008, 11:36:55 PM
Just took a look at the Antrim website which has listed the U14 Development squad. Out of 30 players, 11 are from St Johns.

As good a team as they are does the county really think that having such a high number of these players from the same club is a good thing from a county squad development point of view? Who is responsible for picking this squad. Is it an easy guess?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 26, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
Jack

In what way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 26, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 26, 2008, 10:36:19 AM
not exactly sure NAG, you will have to ask any of the Cushendall posters.

Dont leave us high and dry Jack......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 26, 2008, 10:48:12 AM
I would say that it is hard to serve two masters and that Karl has put in a serious shift with alot of other county guys over the past 5-6 years.

And dont forget how fickle cushendall people are, when they are winning they are all great and when they are losing their players are drunken a***holes.

Probably the same everywhere but seems to be more pronouced down beside the seaside!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 26, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
Did you hear me say it was impossible?

Just difficult and some manage it better than others!

Yes it is true, no matter what happens at the weekend re: starting place, he was kicking soccer for Limavady and S&W both know that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 26, 2008, 10:58:43 AM
I remember hearing stories that he missed training sessions under Dinny Cahill because he was playing some golf tournament in Cushendall.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 26, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
Just reading the stuff on the hurling page about the galway trainer and loughnanne calling Antrim and Northern people every vulgar name of the day during a recent session. Its got my blood boiling a bit, and i'll be cheering the lads on big time on Saturday! We all know galway can beat Antrim out the gate but I hope the boys go out and get tore into them, the f**king bigoted b**tards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 26, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 26, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
Just reading the stuff on the hurling page about the galway trainer and loughnanne calling Antrim and Northern people every vulgar name of the day during a recent session. Its got my blood boiling a bit, and i'll be cheering the lads on big time on Saturday! We all know galway can beat Antrim out the gate but I hope the boys go out and get tore into them, the f**king bigoted b**tards.

my sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 26, 2008, 10:50:00 PM

Team
Ryan Mc Garry
Arron Graffin
Neil Mc Garry
Mickey Kettle
Ciaran Herron
Cormac Donnelly
Johnny Campbell
Karl Mc Keegan
Eddie Mc Closkey
Michael Magill
Karl Stewart
Donal Mc Naughton
Michael Herron
Paddy Richmond
Paul Shiels

Watson doesn't start (or will he actually?)
Magill back in (or is he?)
Hippy at centre half.

Few talking points there.

If that is true about Galway at their training f*ck them. Lets at least get tore into them.
They've been training for too long this year to let things go with a whimper.
Galway will have a ten minute spell where they bang over a couple, get a goal...the first ten, the second ten who knows....its how Antrim respond to that. I just don't hope they let them have consecutive ten minute spells.

Up the Saffrons.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 27, 2008, 12:29:29 AM
Im confused, would this mean Watson has been dropped because of what went on or what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 27, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
Can you think of any other reason why they wouldnt start him?

He put them in a position where they had absolutely no choice but to drop him, in the week of the championship match to go and kick soccer, lad needs his head looked at!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 27, 2008, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: NAG on June 27, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
Can you think of any other reason why they wouldnt start him?

He put them in a position where they had absolutely no choice but to drop him, in the week of the championship match to go and kick soccer, lad needs his head looked at!

A number of questions spring to mind.

1. Are Sambo & Woody for real, or will Mr Watson surprise us all and actually start on Saturday?

2. If he isn't for actually starting, will he throw the head altogether and not bother turning up at all?

3. Who will take the frees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 27, 2008, 10:19:59 AM
I just wonder have they made a statement by dropping him but someone will get the hook after 15-20 mins to make way for him........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 27, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 27, 2008, 10:19:59 AM
I just wonder have they made a statement by dropping him but someone will get the hook after 15-20 mins to make way for him........

i agree, which totally defeats the purpose of it all.

Yeah...agree with both posts

Feel sorry for Cormac Donnelly in at number 6. He's still a young lad with great potential, but I think he is being forced into these big positions almost as a rite of passage, before he is ready to play in them. He certainly hasn't stood out playing this position for his club. Gary O'Kane would have been the same age when he started playing with the county. At that time he was outstanding at centre half for Dunloy and even at that time was the best in Antrim. but they still played him in the corner at County level in those early years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:04:36 AM
Bar Paddy Richmond i cant see where the scores are coming from on Saturday. Some of those forwards struggled to score regularly against Down & Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2008, 11:07:11 AM
The starting 15 on the hoganstand has Watson as a starter...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Bad timing there minder with that post. Are we not agreed that winker should be off the panel?

Have to start with a commited panel and go on from there. I'm not looking for anything close to a win, but a never say die attitude would do for me regardless of how many scores we get. The team reflects where Antrim hurling is IMO so we can't be overly critical of team selection. Hopefully a committed performance will bring some boys on a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Bad timing there minder with that post. Are we not agreed that winker should be off the panel?

Have to start with a commited panel and go on from there. I'm not looking for anything close to a win, but a never say die attitude would do for me regardless of how many scores we get. The team reflects where Antrim hurling is IMO so we can't be overly critical of team selection. Hopefully a committed performance will bring some boys on a bit

In what way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 27, 2008, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 27, 2008, 11:11:21 AM
i would rather go with the one on the county website

as I did, but thought I'd see what hoganstand had to say & thats what it came up with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 27, 2008, 11:24:24 AM
Havent heard that but that would be in total favour of it.

It would be the first decision of these two have made that I would actually support.

Have to agree with skull that feel sorry for cormac donnelly, this is a lad who hasnt even played a full season of club senior hurling, it is a massive step from minor to senior and S&W havent allowed for this and to make it worse they have played him out of his favoured position.

No wonder simon mccrory has went down the pecking order in all honesty.

Some of those forwards struggle to score in the antrim leagues never mind against galway.

Im fearful for tomorrow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Bad timing there minder with that post. Are we not agreed that winker should be off the panel?

In what way?

First news that winker has been kicked off the panel, then your post about how poor the forward line looks. Almost implies you feel we'll miss watson now that he's gone.

I for one won't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Bad timing there minder with that post. Are we not agreed that winker should be off the panel?

In what way?

First news that winker has been kicked off the panel, then your post about how poor the forward line looks. Almost implies you feel we'll miss watson now that he's gone.

I for one won't

Oh right, we will maybe miss his play but not his attitude nor influence. Good riddance.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 27, 2008, 11:51:48 AM
Everyone expects Antrim to get hammered but if they gave their all for 70 minutes I would be happy enough. Antrim should be well motivated by what happened in Salthill last year in the qualifiers. Good luck to the players & management on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 27, 2008, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Bad timing there minder with that post. Are we not agreed that winker should be off the panel?

In what way?

First news that winker has been kicked off the panel, then your post about how poor the forward line looks. Almost implies you feel we'll miss watson now that he's gone.

I for one won't

In a way I feel "slightly" sorry for winker. There are so many arseholes out there uncommitted to anything, but the fact he is one of the most naturally gifted hurlers anywhere in Ireland makes him such a disappointment to everyone. If he didn't have the talent, nobody would give a flying fcuk about what he did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on June 27, 2008, 01:41:30 PM
Why should we feel disappointed?

He is a good hurler no denying, he has no committment to anything he has ever been involved in. He only ever thinks about himself and no one else, he no qualms in screwing over his mates 5 days before their game.

Why should we be loyal to him when he has no loyalty to anything.
As I have said in the past on here this is what the loughgiel club and S&W get for pandering to his every whim!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 27, 2008, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 27, 2008, 10:16:47 AM
cloot, what are you saying?

do you think S&W should start him after missing training to play a soccer match?

imo his free taking hasnt been great this year, and there are plenty of people who could hit them

Jack,

Simply asking what people think - nothwithstanding the team as named, will the two boys actually start him anyway? My own view is that somebody somewhere has to stop pandering to him and letting him get away with that sort of craic.

As for the frees, I have to agree with you that he has been very erratic with them over the last while. That said, who apart from McKeegan will hit them in his absence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 27, 2008, 04:33:59 PM
McCrory has been in good form for us (st johns) all year, seemed to go well enough in the national league but hasnt got a look in since. S&W seem to have there favorites, sheilds, hippy, etc etc. Suppose they are all young players.


Quote from: groundlie on April 18, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 18, 2008, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
Or it could be yer boy from 'Dunloy' who devoted his avatar and signature to 'Brian McFall - Antrim's greatest ever hurler'.
Groundie or Groundlie or something.

I think he was sectioned under the mental health act.


I haven't gone away you know

WTF Groundie...make up your mind will you?

Should've realised that any Dunloy man cliaming Brian McFall as Antrim's greatest hurler had to be an imposter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 27, 2008, 05:02:49 PM
Keeping ye on your toes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2008, 05:50:55 PM
You're a cute hoor groundie  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 27, 2008, 06:00:04 PM
Lets leave the mothers of this  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Just listening to the game on Galway fm. Twelve minutes into the second half and we are already 17 points down. No disrespect to anyone but are we ever going to "catch on" that we are clearly out of our depth at this level. We have limited resources probably 40 Hurlers to pick from and among them only five have any substantial class.

The fact is this. We can not blame management or the players because our resources are so small. Continuous bickering between club and County could be resolved if we would ever use common sense and not enter the Liam Mc Carthy. Play club Hurling and play it often. Let us enjoy the game again. Excuse my language but f##k this County s##t after 120 years of humiliations when is enough enough. Antrim would be best advised to give Waterford a walk over and leave it at that. How horrable and demorilising these results are for Antrim people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on June 28, 2008, 05:02:27 PM
what is the final score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 05:07:14 PM
Antrim 1-09 Galway 6-20 according to aertel  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Just listening to the game on Galway fm. Twelve minutes into the second half and we are already 17 points down. No disrespect to anyone but are we ever going to "catch on" that we are clearly out of our depth at this level. We have limited resources probably 40 Hurlers to pick from and among them only five have any substantial class.

The fact is this. We can not blame management or the players because our resources are so small. Continuous bickering between club and County could be resolved if we would ever use common sense and not enter the Liam Mc Carthy. Play club Hurling and play it often. Let us enjoy the game again. Excuse my language but f##k this County s##t after 120 years of humiliations when is enough enough. Antrim would be best advised to give Waterford a walk over and leave it at that. How horrable and demorilising these results are for Antrim people.

There are as many hurlers in the county now as there were in the late eighties/ early ninetes when we were a force at national level. There are as many hurlers now as there were in 2002/3 when we came very close in two all ireland quarter finals. If we started off with the forty huirlers you mentioned treated them all equally trained the all up to the physical level required and instilled the appropriate discipline in the squad then we would not be suffering 20-30 point hidings on a regular basis. As recently as 2006 Jingo sent out a team in div 1 of the league who out of five matches won two lost two by less than a goal and only suffered one bad defeat all season. What was Jingos reward? The sack! You reap what you sow, its called Karma as Earl would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 28, 2008, 05:44:40 PM
You can just about accept poor performances in the league as it is early in the season, fitness/skill levels will improve as the season goes on but at the end of June ? That was possibly the worst performance i have seen from Antrim in many a year, we all knew we were gonna get hammered but it was the manner of it that stuck in the throat. You wonder what they have been doing since October, i actually feel sorry for Galway as it was a useless exercise for them, they will learn nothing from it. When a ball was played in high to Iarla Tannion he blocked it down to himself every time......do you think he will get the chance to do that against Limerick or Cork who they will end up playing later in the summer? Brutal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Just listening to the game on Galway fm. Twelve minutes into the second half and we are already 17 points down. No disrespect to anyone but are we ever going to "catch on" that we are clearly out of our depth at this level. We have limited resources probably 40 Hurlers to pick from and among them only five have any substantial class.

The fact is this. We can not blame management or the players because our resources are so small. Continuous bickering between club and County could be resolved if we would ever use common sense and not enter the Liam Mc Carthy. Play club Hurling and play it often. Let us enjoy the game again. Excuse my language but f##k this County s##t after 120 years of humiliations when is enough enough. Antrim would be best advised to give Waterford a walk over and leave it at that. How horrable and demorilising these results are for Antrim people.

There are as many hurlers in the county now as there were in the late eighties/ early ninetes when we were a force at national level. There are as many hurlers now as there were in 2002/3 when we came very close in two all ireland quarter finals. If we started off with the forty huirlers you mentioned treated them all equally trained the all up to the physical level required and instilled the appropriate discipline in the squad then we would not be suffering 20-30 point hidings on a regular basis. As recently as 2006 Jingo sent out a team in div 1 of the league who out of five matches won two lost two by less than a goal and only suffered one bad defeat all season. What was Jingos reward? The sack! You reap what you sow, its called Karma as Earl would say.

No harm to you slow corner back but you are clearly delusional and a dreamer if you think Antrim Hurling was ever a force. But I shouldn't accuse you of something that I clearly was myself. After years of being at the wrong side of some horrible thrashings  I would consider myself now more of a "realist". It lets these painful humiliations more acceptable to take. If you want to talk a bout our great team in the late 80's because of a one game win against Offaly, well then we really are scrapping the barrel. If the championship then was the same format as today there would be no way Antrim would have made the final that year. 

The two quarter finals you talk a bout we lost to Tipperary by 10 points. I suppose that in itself is considered a success for us. Better than 20 or 30 points. We should have beaten a weakened Wexford team but for some woeful decisions by the officials. Lets remember though that this was a Wexford team In serious decline.

I do agree with you on jingo and lets not forget humpy that both men were royally shafted.

After coming so close with two good minor teams and instead of aiming for a good run at under 21 level we decided to throw our best youngsters in to the highest grade of Hurling. Where there confidence is being totally destroyed against stronger Senior opposition. Not to mention burn out and injuries.

I really have to put my hands up and be honest and say that after years off thumping's  I can't stomach it anymore. It puts me in very bad form. Especially when you love Hurling so much. I really believe that after today, if people are not convinced a bout Antrim competing in the Liam Mc Carthy then I think there isn't much hope for you.  Just play club Hurling for Christ's sake.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 28, 2008, 06:31:04 PM
The shylocks in the Antrim Cunty Board wouldn't allow it Baile an tuaigh. I agree totally and have argued the very same case myself. Lets not forget that this is not the first Antrim team to have got this type of pasting. More focus on developing club coaching standards (as are being done in N Antrim) and providing more regular matches at senior with a focus on improving standards all the time.

Have to question the County Board in all of this.......can someone tell me where their voice of leadership is in all of this. The way we do things needs to change....but try telling that to "admin" on the Antrim website and see how you get on ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 28, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
Another thing i noticed was the marked difference in the two teams warm up, Galway were doing their drills at full pelt whereas our boys were doing nice wee tippy tappy drills,flicking the ball to each other at a very moderate pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 28, 2008, 06:45:31 PM
It's back down to coaching Minder. If we never train at that pace then is it any wonder that we look so out of our depth against the big guns. Galway's movement and touch was light years ahead of Antrim's today

Comfort zone hurling ended for Antrim when the ball was thrown in. It was all a bit rushed and headless after that

What do you think yourself Mhic Easmuint? Have you anything to add or are you just prying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 28, 2008, 06:54:54 PM
One of the drills though Skull was the players throwing the ball gently up in the air for his partner to catch from a standing position whereas Galway were sprinting 20 yards to receive a ball before putting the ball over the bar. You would have to ask questions of who is responsible for their preparation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Just listening to the game on Galway fm. Twelve minutes into the second half and we are already 17 points down. No disrespect to anyone but are we ever going to "catch on" that we are clearly out of our depth at this level. We have limited resources probably 40 Hurlers to pick from and among them only five have any substantial class.

The fact is this. We can not blame management or the players because our resources are so small. Continuous bickering between club and County could be resolved if we would ever use common sense and not enter the Liam Mc Carthy. Play club Hurling and play it often. Let us enjoy the game again. Excuse my language but f##k this County s##t after 120 years of humiliations when is enough enough. Antrim would be best advised to give Waterford a walk over and leave it at that. How horrable and demorilising these results are for Antrim people.

There are as many hurlers in the county now as there were in the late eighties/ early ninetes when we were a force at national level. There are as many hurlers now as there were in 2002/3 when we came very close in two all ireland quarter finals. If we started off with the forty huirlers you mentioned treated them all equally trained the all up to the physical level required and instilled the appropriate discipline in the squad then we would not be suffering 20-30 point hidings on a regular basis. As recently as 2006 Jingo sent out a team in div 1 of the league who out of five matches won two lost two by less than a goal and only suffered one bad defeat all season. What was Jingos reward? The sack! You reap what you sow, its called Karma as Earl would say.

No harm to you slow corner back but you are clearly delusional and a dreamer if you think Antrim Hurling was ever a force. But I shouldn't accuse you of something that I clearly was myself. After years of being at the wrong side of some horrible thrashings  I would consider myself now more of a "realist". It lets these painful humiliations more acceptable to take. If you want to talk a bout our great team in the late 80's because of a one game win against Offaly, well then we really are scrapping the barrel. If the championship then was the same format as today there would be no way Antrim would have made the final that year. 

The two quarter finals you talk a bout we lost to Tipperary by 10 points. I suppose that in itself is considered a success for us. Better than 20 or 30 points. We should have beaten a weakened Wexford team but for some woeful decisions by the officials. Lets remember though that this was a Wexford team In serious decline.

I do agree with you on jingo and lets not forget humpy that both men were royally shafted.

After coming so close with two good minor teams and instead of aiming for a good run at under 21 level we decided to throw our best youngsters in to the highest grade of Hurling. Where there confidence is being totally destroyed against stronger Senior opposition. Not to mention burn out and injuries.

I really have to put my hands up and be honest and say that after years off thumping's  I can't stomach it anymore. It puts me in very bad form. Especially when you love Hurling so much. I really believe that after today, if people are not convinced a bout Antrim competing in the Liam Mc Carthy then I think there isn't much hope for you.  Just play club Hurling for Christ's sake.

Just on a point of historical note, although I agree with a lot of what you post, 1986 ran Cork to 5 points in an all-ireland semi final,1987 ran Kilkenny to 4 points in an all-ireland semi final, 1988 lost to Tipp in all ireland semi by 7 it was considered a bad result at the time? Also that year gained promotion to an eight team Div1 and kept our place in that Div through to about 1995 reaching national league quarter final twice. 1989 got to an all ireland final 1991 lost by two points to the Cats. Then lost ulster final to a very good down side in 1992, by 1993 the main players, humpy cloot sambo etc were getting on a bit and lost heavily to the cats after leading at half time. Since then it has been generally downhill however we were a decent team in that time period otherwise we would not have survived in an eight team Div 1 for so long. Remember the days when loosing by 7 or 8 points was considered a bad result? If we had lost by eight today we would have been told we had turned the corner...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 28, 2008, 05:16:09 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 28, 2008, 04:50:04 PM
Just listening to the game on Galway fm. Twelve minutes into the second half and we are already 17 points down. No disrespect to anyone but are we ever going to "catch on" that we are clearly out of our depth at this level. We have limited resources probably 40 Hurlers to pick from and among them only five have any substantial class.

The fact is this. We can not blame management or the players because our resources are so small. Continuous bickering between club and County could be resolved if we would ever use common sense and not enter the Liam Mc Carthy. Play club Hurling and play it often. Let us enjoy the game again. Excuse my language but f##k this County s##t after 120 years of humiliations when is enough enough. Antrim would be best advised to give Waterford a walk over and leave it at that. How horrable and demorilising these results are for Antrim people.

There are as many hurlers in the county now as there were in the late eighties/ early ninetes when we were a force at national level. There are as many hurlers now as there were in 2002/3 when we came very close in two all ireland quarter finals. If we started off with the forty huirlers you mentioned treated them all equally trained the all up to the physical level required and instilled the appropriate discipline in the squad then we would not be suffering 20-30 point hidings on a regular basis. As recently as 2006 Jingo sent out a team in div 1 of the league who out of five matches won two lost two by less than a goal and only suffered one bad defeat all season. What was Jingos reward? The sack! You reap what you sow, its called Karma as Earl would say.

No harm to you slow corner back but you are clearly delusional and a dreamer if you think Antrim Hurling was ever a force. But I shouldn't accuse you of something that I clearly was myself. After years of being at the wrong side of some horrible thrashings  I would consider myself now more of a "realist". It lets these painful humiliations more acceptable to take. If you want to talk a bout our great team in the late 80's because of a one game win against Offaly, well then we really are scrapping the barrel. If the championship then was the same format as today there would be no way Antrim would have made the final that year. 

The two quarter finals you talk a bout we lost to Tipperary by 10 points. I suppose that in itself is considered a success for us. Better than 20 or 30 points. We should have beaten a weakened Wexford team but for some woeful decisions by the officials. Lets remember though that this was a Wexford team In serious decline.

I do agree with you on jingo and lets not forget humpy that both men were royally shafted.

After coming so close with two good minor teams and instead of aiming for a good run at under 21 level we decided to throw our best youngsters in to the highest grade of Hurling. Where there confidence is being totally destroyed against stronger Senior opposition. Not to mention burn out and injuries.

I really have to put my hands up and be honest and say that after years off thumping's  I can't stomach it anymore. It puts me in very bad form. Especially when you love Hurling so much. I really believe that after today, if people are not convinced a bout Antrim competing in the Liam Mc Carthy then I think there isn't much hope for you.  Just play club Hurling for Christ's sake.

Just on a point of historical note, although I agree with a lot of what you post, 1986 ran Cork to 5 points in an all-ireland semi final,1987 ran Kilkenny to 4 points in an all-ireland semi final, 1988 lost to Tipp in all ireland semi by 7 it was considered a bad result at the time? Also that year gained promotion to an eight team Div1 and kept our place in that Div through to about 1995 reaching national league quarter final twice. 1989 got to an all ireland final 1991 lost by two points to the Cats. Then lost ulster final to a very good down side in 1992, by 1993 the main players, humpy cloot sambo etc were getting on a bit and lost heavily to the cats after leading at half time. Since then it has been generally downhill however we were a decent team in that time period otherwise we would not have survived in an eight team Div 1 for so long. Remember the days when loosing by 7 or 8 points was considered a bad result? If we had lost by eight today we would have been told we had turned the corner...

Yes, Antrim did run top class opposition closely. But that was over 20 years ago. Hurling has evolved a lot since then and it is played now at a phenomenal speed. Watch any old tapes of Antrim and you will see the difference in standard.

So going by that logic, anybody under the age of 25 will never have seen Antrim run top teams close. That's a whole generation. The way we are going is two steps forward three steps backwards.

We have all to rack our brains together and devise a solution. What I would propose is: Continuation of the Ulster club league and forget the County league. It will benefit everyone in the province. Keep the nine County Ulster Championship but instead of an Antrim team a North Antrim and a South Antrim team. Beg the GAA to let us enter the Liam Mc Carthy as an Ulster select. It would bring nothing but positives to Hurling.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 28, 2008, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 28, 2008, 06:31:04 PM
The shylocks in the Antrim Cunty Board wouldn't allow it Baile an tuaigh. I agree totally and have argued the very same case myself. Lets not forget that this is not the first Antrim team to have got this type of pasting. More focus on developing club coaching standards (as are being done in N Antrim) and providing more regular matches at senior with a focus on improving standards all the time.

Have to question the County Board in all of this.......can someone tell me where their voice of leadership is in all of this. The way we do things needs to change....but try telling that to "admin" on the Antrim website and see how you get on ???

To be fair, Skull, I think you are being a little harsh on the County Board here. Now, first up, I have no brief for the County Board. However, no matter how annoying the administrator who responds to messages posted on the official website can be at times, you can't seriously expect that person to allow a lot of the stuff that gets posted up. Just take a look at some of the stuff we discuss here (and that's highbrow compared to Hoganstand and a few others). There is no way that the official County Board site can or will engage in a discussion about Liam Watson being kicked off the panel for playing soccer the week before Antrim's biggest game of the year. That's just not going to happen.

I know that you (or someone using your name!) has posted a couple of times about coaching on the official website (and I've just about agreed with everything that person has said) and been knocked back by the admin along the lines of "go to your club secretary" or "raise it with your club". To be honest, the responses by admin can be annoying, but on the other hand, this man or woman is typically dealing with people who don't use their own names and are curing all the county's problems behind a key board. But on the other hand, simply writing these things on the County's message board isn't going to sort them out – it has to be done through the clubs by committed people taking the thing on themselves.

To be honest, I'm pretty impressed with the current County Board at one level. Prior to the present, we've had a succession of County Boards with no vision or ambition whatsoever. Traditionally, we have had the most conservative, unimaginative, hidebound county board in Ulster who simply ran off club competitions and sent out county teams to defeat year after year. Now we appear to have a county board that is at least starting to move forward with development squads, coaching officers, the centre of excellence and fund raising. I'm saying this as someone currently based outside the county but on a macro level, there seems to be a bit of forward movement. As for the micro, I'm sure there is usual conflicts, petty dictators etc, but you are going to find those in any organization and in particular in an organization that, by and large, is run by people giving of their own time.

Again, (and I emphasise I hold no brief for the man), but I think McSparran is doing a very good job. To me, his main weaknesses are a.) he seems to be too sensitive to criticism (he's the public face of the GAA admin in Antrim and is always going to get stick from someone – its just part of the job) and b.) in a trait he shares with one half of the dynamic duo that are managing our county, he seems sometimes too ready to talk to the media. Finally we have someone in charge who is prepared to push things forward. The Centre of Excellence is, well, an excellent idea in circumstances where there always seems to be complaints about a lack of training positions. Fundraising has been given a new professionalism. There appears to be much more accountability about what is going on and where money is spent (just think of the way thing were in the past).

So where to now after that thumping from Galway?

Well, I think we have to look inwards at our own standards. At the minute, we have 3 clubs that have a chance to win the Senior Championship. That has been the position (with the exception of Rossa's win a couple of years ago) for nearly 20 years. That can't be allowed to continue. We have to drag other clubs up to the standard of Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall. Belfast, in particular, has to be "exploited" much better than it is now. What about Belfast-only development squads?

More concentration on underage teams, both club and county, has to be the way forward. I nearly cried when I heard that Derry had beaten us in the Ulster under 21 final. Here we were with the product of our two good minor teams and with a great shot of getting to an All-Ireland final with a semi against Dublin and we get bloody ambushed by Derry. Typical friggin arrogance that it was only Derry. Antrim aren't in a position to be arrogant about anybody. Is there a case for splitting the senior and under 21 management?

Proper coaching has to be the answer. But while the County Board has to put in place methods whereby people who want to coach get good training, the coaching has to come from with in the clubs themselves – it can't be imposed from above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 28, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
I know we can talk about improving structures, standard of coaching etc but another thing that struck me, not just today, is a lot of our players do not have the physique to play top level inter county hurling. The Galway players were far more athletic, pacey and every time there was a 50/50 challenge the Antrim player was put on his hole. If i hear another player extolling the "great strength and conditioning work Tommy Stevenson is doing" i will cry ! When you go through that Antrim team there is very little pace, midfield in particular was over run today because their midfileders were continually driving forward at pace. In fairness to the two Karls they were not getting much help from the half forward line. Cormac Donnelly looked like the only one that could hold his own in a physical battle and he is far too young.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 28, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
Good post Cloot.

Minder agree with you as regards to the senior team having no pace. It wasnt just midfield...our half line (which is meant to be the most important line on the pitch) was terrible. Yes physically Hippy is strong but he cant hardly move at all. I'm not blaming him as too much pressure is being placed on him at his age. You have to have a bit of pace as well

Good performances from McGarry, Graffin & Karl Stewart...some of the few to give their all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 28, 2008, 11:22:59 PM
The Galway warm up at Casement was only a pulse raiser compared to the full on warm up they done earlier at Rossas pitch.

We got about ten minutes of hurling today for our £15, and the second half will go down as the biggest hammering in modern day c`ship hurling. Think we lost the second half alone by twenty points.

Hurling has moved on, and particularly strength and pace. Good hurlers arnt enough any more, you need to be as strong as a bull, with olympic sprint pace, and speed and reflexes of a march hare.

A programme to get you close to this level would take at least two/three years, and thats just the physical side. Tommy Stevenson cant do that in a couple of months. That is a process starting at approx 19/20, and should be completely separate from on the pitch training, skills, tactics etc. Horses for courses as they say.

Without doubt S/W moved too soon. Two or three more years bringing their team through the slow frustrating bulking up process was needed, but only with some sort of guarantee that they could keep their squad together as a development squad, from co board. Too late now for that.

Going forward, no point in nailing the management. They have no control over three bad injuries, a honeymoon, and the antics of Winker. With all that in place we could have got to within ten points and fooled ourselves once again that we arnt a mile away.

Truth is, under the circumstances S/W have faced, WHO could have done any better on the line, when we were asking what amounted to a development squad to face a resurent tribe.

Truth is harder questions have to be asked. Are our development squads good enough? Are we doing enough in schools? Have we enough full time coaches? Where is the response from Belfast. We f**king ridiculed the St Johns management to the core, MJ in particular, and yes he did step over an important line, but Christ I wish there were ten more men like him in Antrim, his mis-demeanour exempt.

Dr John to take note that for all the good things happening,(credit given for that) we MUST look now to underage development, and I say that as a football man mostly who saw a SW u-15 team beat a full Derry team in Maghera last Saturday.

Otherwise his potentially rich legacy will be spoiled by disasterous parallel performances from senior hurlers and footballers during his tenure.

The natives are getting restless, and the Saffron Sweep tickets will be ten times harder to sell next year unles the good Doc can put some kind of positive spin on what has been a truly disasterous month for both codes.

Cross as a bear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on June 29, 2008, 08:14:34 AM
Jesus Lads,

We are all talking about warm-ups and the noticeable differences between the two teams. FFS get real it never was and will never be until this county makes massive investment in its team managers. Jody comes cheap, as he has other jobs!!! Sambo and woody are the same. The Docs problem is  simple, he paying for the sins of previous County Chairs and lack of finance!! Where did all the money go? Has anybody asked these questions?

The centre of excellence is a wonderful idea and we should have one, but that is long term. We have the strength at club level in both codes, we are always there or there abouts in all senior club championships! Why does in not follow through?

Because we get CHEAP IDIOTS that cannot make it anywhere else. Take the money from the SSweep for the next 2-3 years and purchase expertise for both Codes, look at  Wicklow, etc etc a fraction of the clubs that we have! Christ it takes investment. With this success the crowds will return, the money in the gates will increase, we will win back support and pride and the SSweep will increase its sales 3 fold, and for once antrim supporters will have something to be proud of! As Clubs, Players, supporters the County Exec needs to be held accountable!! Drop the petty differences and come together to put a stop the embarrassment, your driving kids and supporters to other sports or out of the association!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 29, 2008, 10:05:08 AM
The centre of excellence plan is going to suck up any possible resources we have for the next 5 years. There wont be any money for  paying managers with succesful pedigrees and proven track records.

After S/W, and Jody, I will bet anything you like our board will turn to ROGY and WHITEY.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
So if we had Brian Cody things would be different? Utter bollocks. So the answer is to throw a pile of cash at some sort of Mick O Dywer type evangelist,they then leave after three years and we are back to square one. . . . . . . . Never worry about club structures or league set ups,standard of coaching. Its obvious S & W promised a lot more than they delivered but getting a high paid manager isnt the answer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on June 29, 2008, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 28, 2008, 07:20:02 PM
im just depressed after that. cant understand how a team can change so much over a 10 half time break.

It's quite simple - Ireland rugby teams ( when they had poor teams ) were always able to get themselves up for about a half of the match - but class always tells in the end ! No shame - Galway are a great side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 29, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 29, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
So if we had Brian Cody things would be different? Utter bollocks. So the answer is to throw a pile of cash at some sort of Mick O Dywer type evangelist,they then leave after three years and we are back to square one. . . . . . . . Never worry about club structures or league set ups,standard of coaching. Its obvious S & W promised a lot more than they delivered but getting a high paid manager isnt the answer

If we had brian cody we would not be winning all - irelands but we would not be suffering 20-30 point hammerings either. A top class manager can get a team fit, organised and with a well thought out gameplan. However without three our four players with the x factor the top prizes wil not come. I do not think we should splash a fortune, if we had it, on an outside manager. However I do not think this allows current management a bye ball for poor preparation, no gameplan and abysmal man management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 29, 2008, 06:21:37 PM
Things could get worse. Away to Waterford in the qualifiers on Saturday. :-[ Anyone running a bus??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2008, 06:24:53 PM
Is it away? I thought they were deciding the venue tomorrow. Glenariffe lost today by a point in Corrigan to the dual forces of St Johns and Garrett Duffy. . . . . . I can just about accept an incompetent ref but not a dishonest one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
i think i saw him in cleaning the bogs out after the game . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on June 30, 2008, 06:47:12 AM
Minder, i hear the genariffe boys gave the Ref a hard time after the game, trying to get off the pitch. It sounds like they where a bit OTT!! to say the least. If the past is anything to go by, this guy does,nt take to kindly to this type of behaviour!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 30, 2008, 09:12:14 AM
Quote from: Trouble Ahead on June 30, 2008, 06:47:12 AM
Minder, i hear the genariffe boys gave the Ref a hard time after the game, trying to get off the pitch. It sounds like they where a bit OTT!! to say the least. If the past is anything to go by, this guy does,nt take to kindly to this type of behaviour!

Nothing i havent seen a thousand times before, there was nothing physical. I think they were trying to find out how he saw fit to add 8 minutes of additional time. I suppose he wanted to be the star of the show and in that regard he was excellent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:23:33 AM
Minder....thats a very libelous comment to make without actually explaining how you can make it. We all can get frustrated by refereeing performances especially in tight games where one or two poor decisions can swing the game, but referees like players make many mistakes in a game. It's only when these desisions bring about the losing  of the game that people attack the referee's integrity. Very unfair and won't do much to encourage the right people to officiate at games it if their character is likely to be questioned on a regular basis.

Dunloy beat the Ports handy enough in the end after a very poor start where they went 7 down I think. Have to give it to the down men though....they battle the whole way. Very entertaining game because of the intensity and honest of effort throughout from both teams. Incidentally, if it was a closer affair the Ports may have felt aggrieved with the referee (Owen Elliott) IMO having an impact on the game as there were a few desisions that went against them which I wouldn't have given myself. In saying that I have to say that I was impressed with Owen Elliott overall (probably helped by the fact that both side were only interested in hurling) as he let the game go a fair bit, with plenty of good strong tackles going in all over the pitch. If all clubs went out only interested in hurling then I think it would help referees and the game itself up here massively.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 30, 2008, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:23:33 AM
Minder....thats a very libelous comment to make without actually explaining how you can make it. We all can get frustrated by refereeing performances especially in tight games where one or two poor decisions can swing the game, but referees like players make many mistakes in a game. It's only when these desisions bring about the losing  of the game that people attack the referee's integrity. Very unfair and won't do much to encourage the right people to officiate at games it if their character is likely to be questioned on a regular basis.

Dunloy beat the Ports handy enough in the end after a very poor start where they went 7 down I think. Have to give it to the down men though....they battle the whole way. Very entertaining game because of the intensity and honest of effort throughout from both teams. Incidentally, if it was a closer affair the Ports may have felt aggrieved with the referee (Owen Elliott) IMO having an impact on the game as there were a few desisions that went against them which I wouldn't have given myself. In saying that I have to say that I was impressed with Owen Elliott overall (probably helped by the fact that both side were only interested in hurling) as he let the game go a fair bit, with plenty of good strong tackles going in all over the pitch. If all clubs went out only interested in hurling then I think it would help referees and the game itself up here massively.

As i stated Skull i can accept "mistakes", my only gripe is the allocation of 8 minutes of additional time at the end of 30 minutes of hurling. There is no mechanism to air any grievance though as referees are not held accountable for their actions/performances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Unbelievable performance from your hurlers at the weekend. Getting beat is one thing but to throw the towel in is another. WTF is that all about? Seen sambo on the Sunday game last night, he should have apoligised to the county for the teams performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:35:38 AM
Sorry Minder ..just saw that post. f**k 8 minutes! What injuries were there in that period?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Unbelievable performance from your hurlers at the weekend. Getting beat is one thing but to throw the towel in is another. WTF is that all about? Seen sambo on the Sunday game last night, he should have apoligised to the county for the teams performance.
Piss off Max. As if you give a fcuk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Unbelievable performance from your hurlers at the weekend. Getting beat is one thing but to throw the towel in is another. WTF is that all about? Seen sambo on the Sunday game last night, he should have apoligised to the county for the teams performance.
Piss off Max. As if you give a fcuk

hi skull, do yis boys know what a hurl is for ;)
there ye go, i try to be nice and i get told where to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:46:50 AM
Lads there is alot of boys besides ye, looking for timber at this time of the year for a big bonfire they are building...you should make a big donation :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Unbelievable performance from your hurlers at the weekend. Getting beat is one thing but to throw the towel in is another. WTF is that all about? Seen sambo on the Sunday game last night, he should have apoligised to the county for the teams performance.
Piss off Max. As if you give a fcuk

hi skull, do yis boys know what a hurl is for ;)
there ye go, i try to be nice and i get told where to go

I know what I'd like to use it for you hurling hating b^&^%*(

"the biggest threat to hurling is from the GAA itself".....Paudie Butler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 10:00:38 AM
Do I hate hurling?..no I don't...infact I love watching it....great game, but I love seeing my neighbours take tankings like that...with all that heart and soul....whats the colour of them jerseys gain....YELLOW
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 30, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 09:35:38 AM
Sorry Minder ..just saw that post. f**k 8 minutes! What injuries were there in that period?

There was a bit of "handbags" between the two teams but that was resolved and the ball thrown in after about 3 minutes. It would have been a big win for us especially after playing the last 15 minutes with 14 men, from what i saw yesterday Cushendall have two byes to teh county final, they play Glenariffe then winners of St Johns v Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 10:44:39 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 10:00:38 AM
Do I hate hurling?..no I don't...infact I love watching it....great game, but I love seeing my neighbours take tankings like that...with all that heart and soul....whats the colour of them jerseys gain....YELLOW


I'm sure you do love to watch it, but you'd hate to see it being played on your doorstep and would actively discourage it. You do realise you sound like the p***k you most likely are?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2008, 10:45:22 AM
Max after your footballer's performance you don't really have much to crow about.

It's ok though - all you guys believe you have the players to win the all ireland so it must be true!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 10:47:23 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 30, 2008, 10:37:53 AM
someone sent off minder - who

from what i have seen off cushendall this year, they cant be classified as byes for any team.

they got beat by a poor ballygalget team yesterday i see.

Cushendall have still got plenty of time to get things in order. They will be there or there abouts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 30, 2008, 10:53:01 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 30, 2008, 10:37:53 AM
someone sent off minder - who

from what i have seen off cushendall this year, they cant be classified as byes for any team.

they got beat by a poor ballygalget team yesterday i see.

Paul Mc Donnell, straight red for verbal abuse to the ref i think, so it must have been sweet whatever he said to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 10:56:02 AM
imtommygunn....there is a considerable diffence in getting stuffed by...what was it...26 f**king points year in and year out than gettiong beat in a semi final by 2 points after winning the national league against Kerry. Now if Antrim hurling could win a National League titile agianst Killkenny I'm sure ye would be happy with that also.

Skull...you are a real tool...and for quite a while...just to remind you of my first post which was not insulting. Infact it was statment of fact. I would support hurling and certainly would not try to discourage anyone from playing on my own door step. Our club tried in the 80's to start hurling, we actually paid for man from your own club to come over every week to coach the kids...it all stopped, not because the club did not want it to succeed, there was no interest, demand for it...all very simple.

Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 30, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Unbelievable performance from your hurlers at the weekend. Getting beat is one thing but to throw the towel in is another. WTF is that all about? Seen sambo on the Sunday game last night, he should have apoligised to the county for the teams performance.

Once you replied as you normally do with a grunt....I thought to myself lets really take the piss with this tool...and guess what...you fell for it line, hook and sinker. Now away off with you ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2008, 11:03:30 AM
Max for the talent there is in Derry football and the pitiful performances they have returned in ulster semi finals over the last few years I don't think you have too much to crow about either. Maybe you won the national league yes but if you go whimpering out against Monaghan what will that mean?

We struggle at this level of hurling. Always have and probably always will. Offaly, Laois and probably Wexford and Dublin would probably all be in the same boat as us though they are a step up on doubt. The big guns are a level above everything else. Structures at county level and at national level need to be improved. That defeat, like Offaly's against Kilkenny, is no good to anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 11:04:52 AM
It was shite stirring ...plain and simple. Mission accomplished Max. Well done. Now piss off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on June 30, 2008, 11:18:48 AM
Minder, as a down man living in Antrim, my sources say that your no 11 was cut and was attended to on the pitch for at least 5 minutes, so what do you expect. I am told the abuse you lads gave him after the game was out of order, i hear he let you play hurling and let the game go on as much as possible, but all you lads did was abuse him, surprising the jonnies did,nt get invoved, Micky J must have them well disciplined.

Sounds like just sour grapes, my advice leave the refs alone and maybe we can all play hurling for a change!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 30, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
Quote from: Trouble Ahead on June 30, 2008, 11:18:48 AM
Minder, as a down man living in Antrim, my sources say that your no 11 was cut and was attended to on the pitch for at least 5 minutes, so what do you expect. I am told the abuse you lads gave him after the game was out of order, i hear he let you play hurling and let the game go on as much as possible, but all you lads did was abuse him, surprising the jonnies did,nt get invoved, Micky J must have them well disciplined.

Sounds like just sour grapes, my advice leave the refs alone and maybe we can all play hurling for a change!!!!!!!

Why would St Johns get involved when they were being given all the time in the world to claw themselves back into the game? Maybe your "source" would explain how when asked how long was left in injury time he said "two minutes" yet played another 4 or 5 after that with minimal stoppages in that period. I was standing beside the St Johns subs and they couldnt believe the additional time but were obviously quite happy with it..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on June 30, 2008, 11:35:25 AM
Ah Come on Minder, get real my source was playing and he said all you lads did the whole game was cry and complain, for Christs sake give it a break, usually its the jonnies that do the bitching! Was your no 11 attended to or not for a good few minutes, if so then give up on the old added time. If you where good enough you would nver have been beaten in the end, always always blame the man in the middle. Give it up, its wearing a bit thin at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on June 30, 2008, 12:36:29 PM
TroubleAhead, you couldn't have chosen a more appropriate avatar.

You seem to have a lot to say for someone who admits he wasn't even at the game......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2008, 01:21:17 PM
QuoteYou seem to have a lot to say for someone who admits he wasn't even at the game......

Yes but he has the totally impartial views of a St. Johns player to back up his story...  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 30, 2008, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 10:47:23 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on June 30, 2008, 10:37:53 AM
someone sent off minder - who

from what i have seen off cushendall this year, they cant be classified as byes for any team.

they got beat by a poor ballygalget team yesterday i see.

Cushendall have still got plenty of time to get things in order. They will be there or there abouts


Now I'm one of our biggest critics but there has been a good bit of improvement in our lads over recent weeks, we're now moving the ball on a lot quicker into the forwards with the defence tightening up considerably. It was a keenly contested game throughout and with cushendall missing a few plus they had another few who already had 70 minutes of hurling done the previous day making a game of it. I wouldn't dispel the dall either, they'll not be far away.

As for refereeing I posted a few weeks back about referees letting the game go but that players also had to play their part in a better, tougher brand of hurling. Well the ref did let a fair bit go and he got nothing but abuse and whinging from players, mentors and spectators looking for frees which IMO weren't frees. Once the players knew that frees weren't going to be easy got the game improved immeasurably and was one of the better flowing games I've seen this year. Now the problem lies in that the next referee we get won't be so tolerant and blow every bit of contact and players don't know if they are coming or going. No easy answers but yesterdays game was a whole lot more entertainment than our previous win in the UHL over Ballycran which never got out of first gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 30, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
Div 2-3 is serving up a lot of better matches than I and many others thought it would initially. We (Armoy) lost out by a point to Randalstown yesterday, I thought we had broken that habit?? Carey ran St Galls to five points and Clooney Gaels beat Glenarm. Clooney are going really well and must be one of the favourites for the intermediate championship. Rossa seem to remembered that they actually used to play hurling to and are beginning to show some form. Meanwhile Ballycran are a class above everything else and should win promotion unbeaten, only Gort na Mona might trouble them now. Were you playing in Carey Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2008, 11:16:02 PM
Spotted this on AFR...the galway match

Vincent Hogans take..

By Vincent Hogan


Monday June 30 2008

Sambo McNaughton's face is a gaping window into his soul. Every tiny nick and blemish speaks of cursed obsession, like the soft pages of a melancholy diary. His eyes swell with the hurt of Antrim's predicament. His mind bursts with the injustice of managing a team on the very fringes of hurling's affection.

You can tell how pity scalds him. Something in the set of his shoulders, the way he leans against the cold wall of a dressing-room tunnel and waits for journalists' questions to pick at an old scab.

He greets us with "alright boys" and we shuffle towards him as if there's a coffin to be closed.

On Saturday, the team he co-manages with 'Woody' McKinley lost to Galway by 26 points at Casement Park. It was championship in name only. Next weekend, they play Waterford, after which McNaughton and McKinley will be able to put their training schedules in a drawer and thank their players for listening.

And, no doubt, they'll tell them not to lose faith, despite every last molecule of their being aching with a sense that there is not much left to lose now.

Antrim weren't exactly at full-strength on Saturday. Their captain was away on honeymoon, their best forward chose to be at home. When they brought big Joe Kernan in to speak to the players last Thursday night, McNaughton and McKinley were __ effectively __ asking him to keep a candle lit in a gale.

Kernan did his best too, recycling the very same, evangelical message that they themselves have exhausted now.

Trouble is, there are only so many times you can sell the message that every game is important, that even bad beatings carry a deposit of nourishment before you realise that the faces looking back at you have silted eyes.

Last year, 55 out of 72 delegates at a Special Congress voted for changes to the hurling championship that, effectively, told McNaughton and McKinley to take their love of the game and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

Worse, the purveyors of this travesty then had the gall to speechify about how no system could ever be "perfect". The words carried all the comfort of a used coal toppling in a grate. Antrim were being told to go to Hell.

McNaughton, you can tell, has little stomach for this now. Scandalously, the bulk of Ulster counties voted for pitching them into this penal system. Yet, when he says that Antrim should play in Leinster, the same counties accuse him of elitism.

At the end of Saturday's game, Ger Loughnane offered him the sincere handshake of a man who could take no comfort from the sums. Interestingly, Alan Kerins and Damien Joyce also made a point of seeking him out. The body language wouldn't have been out of place in a cemetery.

Later, Loughnane would draw us into a little trophy room under the old stand and heap praise on his young prodigy, Joe Canning, for having the wit to "ease up" on his championship debut and not kick Antrim into the dirt.

It was all unavoidably sad. You looked around the gaunt stadium, set hard against the M1 motorway. You gazed out across the forest of chimneys, jutting up out of prim little housing estates with their tidy, repressed lawns. You gaped at the distant, long spine of the Harland and Wolff crane. And you had to remind yourself what to be a hurling man once stood for in this city.

McNaughton often recalls the league game against Down here in October '93, the day after an explosion on the Shankill Road killed 10 people. Fear of reprisal had people sick in their stomachs that day in Casement. They played the game, then all but ran to their cars and sped back to the Glens.

As it happened, the reprisal came one week later, a gun attack on the Rising Sun bar at Greysteele.

Back then, you lived with the worry of UDR checkpoints and random shootings. Being a hurler made you a terrorist target. He once got a bullet in the post with his name engraved on the side. He learnt to keep his hurleys out of view, knowing how they labeled a man.

Yet, he won an All Star and played in an All-Ireland final. He was an abrasive hurler who wore his heart on his sleeve. McNaughton once estimated that he averaged five stitches per game and you knew he was only half tongue-in-cheek when he said it.

As it happens, his first championship game was against Galway, marked by Iggy Clarke. Father Iggy. "That day he didn't really bring his collar onto the field with him," jokes this son of Cushendall. Then as now, Galway beat them well.

On Saturday, McNaughton vowed that Antrim would neither hide nor take up Gaelic football. They stayed with Galway for half an hour and, in his estimation, that suggests there is something to hold onto. But for the Wexford-Dublin draw, they would have had a decent preparatory challenge beforehand. Little things keep falling against them.

But he knows too that their championship ends next weekend. In truth, he knows it never began.

The game still has its back turned. The betrayal perseveres.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 01, 2008, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 30, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
Div 2-3 is serving up a lot of better matches than I and many others thought it would initially. We (Armoy) lost out by a point to Randalstown yesterday, I thought we had broken that habit?? Carey ran St Galls to five points and Clooney Gaels beat Glenarm. Clooney are going really well and must be one of the favourites for the intermediate championship. Rossa seem to remembered that they actually used to play hurling to and are beginning to show some form. Meanwhile Ballycran are a class above everything else and should win promotion unbeaten, only Gort na Mona might trouble them now. Were you playing in Carey Milltown?


PJ O'Connell was the difference between Clooney & ourselves on Sunday. Game was nip & tuck til they switched him til full forward & within 5 minutes he scored a goal & set up another.  Excellent prospect to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on July 01, 2008, 11:23:55 AM
Referee Abuse-Has to Stop04 July 2008
It has been brought to the attention of County Committee by the Referee's Committee that the verbal abuse of our match officials by mentors and club officials is on the increase.

In conjunction with the CCC, it has been agreed that further reports of verbal abuse of out match officials will be dealt with in the most severe manner, and when possible the maximum suspension will be awarded to the perpetrators of the abuse.

We are determined to eliminate the abuse that is unfairly directed to out match officials, and I ask for your full support in our attempts to remove this from our games.

Seamus O'Muiri


Name : Antrim Onlooker01 July 2008Referee Abuse-Has to Stop

I would just like to add to this as i've seen it at first hand and it's one of the reasons why I will never Referee again. Referees really need to be more consistent and more strict as moving the ball forward does'nt really work and if ALL Referees were to book then send off players and mentors then the message would soon hit home as only a few do this now so you get players and mentors saying sure I/He told the Ref to F off last week and never got booked we need all the Refs to start dishing out cards for these offenses even if it means 4 or 5 players sent off cause it would soon stop. Some players don't realize without these men in the middle we would'nt have any games and we all should be doing our bit to help them and protect them.



Minder these quotes from your county website today, i can think of one club that has "Troubles Ahead"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 01, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
that canning thing is unreal. how many sidelines did he put over ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 01, 2008, 11:25:55 PM
We pressured his sidelines well! i want know how the managment is going to pick the lads heads up at that. It wasnt that long ago since the walsh cup win. Hopefully the managers can inspire the players the end the season with a performance they can be proud off!

P.s. FFS play young hippy in position be good too see can he mix it were he belongs.

P.P.s What happened with the w*nker?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 01, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
I think the Walsh Cup win has been well and truly put into context as the season has unravelled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 02, 2008, 12:04:38 AM
The link with the results on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsh_Cup_2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsh_Cup_2008) wins over the cats, wexford and offaly and another over UCD fitzgibbon. These aren't teams that would go out to lose games. At the time some on here commented that it was an opportunity to build on the success, this hasn't happened We have stood still if not moved backward, while others have moved forward.  A good manager can keep the monentum going, a great one can speed it up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 02, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
Have to agree with youngfella in the fact that we havent even stood still, we have orchestrated our own movement down the hurling ladder during this current set up!

I think its time for a rethink where this panel is concerned and less smoke screening about croke park and leinster and a bit more substance and fight on the pitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 02, 2008, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 02, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
Have to agree with youngfella in the fact that we havent even stood still, we have orchestrated our own movement down the hurling ladder during this current set up!

I think its time for a rethink where this panel is concerned and less smoke screening about croke park and leinster and a bit more substance and fight on the pitch!

Leinster is being used more and more as a convenient excuse, when we beat Derry and Down we need into Leinster, when we get hammered, we need into Leinster. I think we also need to get our own house in order, the team on Saturday did not look like the fittest Antrim team i have ever seen. I dont know whether it was mental or physical but they ran out of gas very quickly. Yet there were rumours coming out of the camp that they were doing a "savage" training programme in the runup to the Galway game. I dont have a problem with a defeat, its the manner of it that speaks volumes & to be constantly fed horses*it from the camp does nobody any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 02, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 02, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
Have to agree with youngfella in the fact that we havent even stood still, we have orchestrated our own movement down the hurling ladder during this current set up!

I think its time for a rethink where this panel is concerned and less smoke screening about croke park and leinster and a bit more substance and fight on the pitch!

I think you're being harsh on Sambo and Woody as to be blunt I don't think Antrim have the calibre of players at their disposal and one of the reasons is poor underage structures and weak clubs over recent years.

Antrim seem to have got their act together in relation to underage structures but it'll be a good few years before any reward may be reaped at senior level.

On the club front Cushendall and dunloy have dominated the championship scene with Rossa a solitary win in almost 15 years or more. You can't compete at intercounty with such a reliance on two or three clubs (I'll include the bodies as well). This year for the first time in a long time the ACHL Div1 is competetive with clubs going at it tooth and nail, this in itself will raise the standard of hurler in Antrim (and hopefully Down) and give a progression path for a lot of good underage hurlers in Antrim. More clubs need to be competitive especially in the city, so if Rossa can get back up, the Johnnies get some of those young hurlers through to senior, Ballycastle, St Galls etc then the picture at intercounty level will be a whole lot rosier but don't be expecting Antrim to be competitive for quite a few years yet.

At least there is a glimmer of hope in Antrim, there's f**k all in Down..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 02, 2008, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 02, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 02, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
Have to agree with youngfella in the fact that we havent even stood still, we have orchestrated our own movement down the hurling ladder during this current set up!

I think its time for a rethink where this panel is concerned and less smoke screening about croke park and leinster and a bit more substance and fight on the pitch!

I think you're being harsh on Sambo and Woody as to be blunt I don't think Antrim have the calibre of players at their disposal and one of the reasons is poor underage structures and weak clubs over recent years.

Antrim seem to have got their act together in relation to underage structures but it'll be a good few years before any reward may be reaped at senior level.

On the club front Cushendall and dunloy have dominated the championship scene with Rossa a solitary win in almost 15 years or more. You can't compete at intercounty with such a reliance on two or three clubs (I'll include the bodies as well). This year for the first time in a long time the ACHL Div1 is competetive with clubs going at it tooth and nail, this in itself will raise the standard of hurler in Antrim (and hopefully Down) and give a progression path for a lot of good underage hurlers in Antrim. More clubs need to be competitive especially in the city, so if Rossa can get back up, the Johnnies get some of those young hurlers through to senior, Ballycastle, St Galls etc then the picture at intercounty level will be a whole lot rosier but don't be expecting Antrim to be competitive for quite a few years yet.

At least there is a glimmer of hope in Antrim, there's f**k all in Down..



What about Crossmaglen in Armagh...a one trick pony in Armagh for the past 11 years and there county team hs been there best in that time also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 02, 2008, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 02, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
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Antrim seem to have got their act together in relation to underage structures but it'll be a good few years before any reward may be reaped at senior level.


Well North Antrim are getting their act together and making real efforts to improve coaching standrads across the board. What joined up thinking is taking place in South Antrim. None that I'm aware of  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 02, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
Good point JC. Joined up thinking. Now theres a laugh.

There is not one ounce of joined up thinking in the whole sphere of development squads, what they do, how they are coached, who is coaching them, and what level are the coaches at, what finance is available, if any to take things to the next level.

All the talk at the minute on the shite performances of our senior teams (why stop there), new centre of excellence that the dogs in the street know we cant afford, and the massive fundraiser that netted about 15% of that achieved by a club team earlier this year (Errigal Ciaran).

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 02, 2008, 05:51:55 PM
Antrim is so apathetic it's unreal. Probably because it's a bit more affluent than the other counties (dare I say) and having a lot of large urban conerbations (Ballymena/Antrim/Lisburn/Belfast/Glengormley) there are too many other distractions which require less commitment to be involved with (like going out on the swally every weekend)

Those who are interested are passionate about the game in Antrim, but I do think the interest levels amonst the supporters at club/county level limits the desire for players here to compete at the same level as the KK's & Corks of this world. There are alot of "GAA" people in Antrim who couldn't give a flying fcuk really and do fcuk all to help their own clubs progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 02, 2008, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 02, 2008, 05:51:55 PM
Antrim is so apathetic it's unreal. Probably because it's a bit more affluent than the other counties (dare I say) and having a lot of large urban conerbations (Ballymena/Antrim/Lisburn/Belfast/Glengormley) there are too many other distractions which require less commitment to be involved with (like going out on the swally every weekend)

Those who are interested are passionate about the game in Antrim, but I do think the interest levels amonst the supporters at club/county level limits the desire for players here to compete at the same level as the KK's & Corks of this world. There are alot of "GAA" people in Antrim who couldn't give a flying fcuk really and do fcuk all to help their own clubs progress.

that is some excuse...we have Derry city...80,000 catholics and not a senior club to provide senior footballers...we also have large towns like Limavady, Magherafelt, Maghera, Dungiven and Coleraine...and guess what they also have distractions....at least you have plenty of senior clubs from belfast...what would ye be like if belfats was null and void like Derry City
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on July 02, 2008, 06:40:13 PM
Hey lads back up in the beautiful glens again, posted back up from the capital city til Christmas. Reading the last few posts things don,t change that much i see. Heading out tonight to catch a game and bring myself up to speed on all thats happened in my absence.

I see the Referee,s issue has,nt gone away from your county website? Are things getting that bad, that the county are having to issue warnings or was it a backlash from the "Thrashing" Galway gave you lads! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2008, 07:46:28 PM
I definitely see something in the urban thing however would prefer not to use it as an excuse. The number of clubs in Belfast however has been talked about before and it does seem there are too many - in fact far too many. While they all deserve credit for their existence the standard at which some compete will never win you anything in county terms.

Realistically if you look at our club game the standard has dropped in the last ~10 years. Whether that be because of a few years of inactivity due to county commitments or not I don't know.  We also only have three clubs competing year in year out - Rossa seem to have dwindled since theirs and to be honest no longer count. The talent at present could not even be compared to that of the eighties. I don't know if that is development or not or whether we just hit a time when we had an abundance of talent.

I think the club structure at present has improved a lot though and despite protestations about this division 2 / 3 it looks to me like the top end is hugely competitive(Ballycran aside) and will be very beneficial to many teams. Once they restructure the leagues to 1,2,3 etc next year they need to keep them like that. 1a/1b is a load of crap and doesn't work.

Realistically we are going nowhere competing with the big guys - we are just not good enough for it. The new division 2 will benefit us next year though but in general the Liam McCarthy format needs to be looked at. Realistically teams like ourselves, Wexford, Offaly, Dublin etc have zero chance of winning it. I don't know if it would make sense to raise the bar in the christy ring but one thing is for sure if we continue to get games like these Galway and Waterford games we may give up. If we had games which we would either win or aspire to winning that would be a huge help.

To me Leinster is not a fix but I would like to see meaningful games at county level. I think playing teams like Dublin / Wexford etc would give this. Take an example of this year - what has been gained? We won the walsh cup - no one really cares and likewise for the ulster.  Either leinster or bar raised in the christy ring. With years like this year there is no point in even having the county team. We do however need a county team and as with a few other counties the powers that be need to sort out structures that we can compete in.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 03, 2008, 12:52:49 AM
I can live with under achievement if I thought there was a really serious drive at juvenile level, clubs, schools dev squads.

All we need is a bit of satisfaction that on down the ranks a world of work was underway to close the gaps.

We really need to drive on and get serious work done, but this needs strategy, leadership and finance.

Will soon be time for the good doctor to proscribe some remedy. Rank and file morale getting lower by the week.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2008, 09:41:48 AM
Yes but if your seniors are "under achieving",particularly in the manner we currently are, then you're giving nothing to your juveniles to aspire too.

Short term needs fixed for us, Laois etc at county level.

Long term needs fixed internally.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 03, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Yes I agree that the county seniors set the benchmark and if they are so badly under achieving as they are at present it makes it doubly difficult to promote the game. So some sort of fix is needed for the current squad and look inwardly as tommygun suggests.

Underage structures are the way forward

The gaa itself has to take some blame for the lack of investment in Blefast when you compare the money that is being invested in Dublin.

Time to get some people that know what they are doing promoting hurling and football in Belfast and get them the resources that they need to develop the games in schools and clubs across the city.

Get the gaa off its knees in Belfast and inject some much needed life!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 03, 2008, 09:55:21 AM
Quote from: bannside on July 02, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
Good point JC. Joined up thinking. Now theres a laugh.

There is not one ounce of joined up thinking in the whole sphere of development squads, what they do, how they are coached, who is coaching them, and what level are the coaches at, what finance is available, if any to take things to the next level.

All the talk at the minute on the shite performances of our senior teams (why stop there), new centre of excellence that the dogs in the street know we cant afford, and the massive fundraiser that netted about 15% of that achieved by a club team earlier this year (Errigal Ciaran).

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.



I thought there was a think tank or something put in place recently to address hurling in the greater Belfast area headed up by the Ulster council, maybe some of the Bredagh contributors could elaborate as I think they are/were involved.

From my experiences of playing Belfast clubs at all levels but especially south Antrim leagues when our reserves were playing in them for a year or two most had two or three good hurlers but a good few were beer bellied wingnuts out for a bit of social hurling the odd evening so those good hurlers weren't getting the opportunities to progress. Maybe some of these clubs should amalgamate or set up as regoinal teams where three or four clubs would send along their better more dedicated hurlers and still have an adult team within the club for the social hurlers.

What way are the catchment areas for the Belfast clubs set up? Is it along parochial lines?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 03, 2008, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 03, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Yes I agree that the county seniors set the benchmark and if they are so badly under achieving as they are at present it makes it doubly difficult to promote the game. So some sort of fix is needed for the current squad and look inwardly as tommygun suggests.

Underage structures are the way forward

The gaa itself has to take some blame for the lack of investment in Blefast when you compare the money that is being invested in Dublin.

Time to get some people that know what they are doing promoting hurling and football in Belfast and get them the resources that they need to develop the games in schools and clubs across the city.

Get the gaa off its knees in Belfast and inject some much needed life!

But is there enough bodies on the ground in Belfast to inject the type of coaching and enthusiasim required to turn things around ??

Max
St Johns (current Div 2 U14 all ireland champions) had a fantastic juvenile side a few years back, almost as talented as their current U14 side. Dunloy played them in a Minor County Final 3 years ago and they hammered us. Strong with good stickwork and fitness levels all round. This year Dunloy won the U21 Champiopship, whilst St Johns failed to enter a team in the championship? Dunloy have improved as a side in those 3 years but what happened St Johns? Alot of them have disappeared/got distracted/couldn't give a fcuk/have no alliegience to their club to keep representing it. I don't know for sure why but there's a good example of what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 03, 2008, 02:50:24 PM
Fair enough point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 03, 2008, 03:19:20 PM
Just in case any of you dont know, but we beat our cloe rival Dun laithi in the County reserve final on Monday night by 2-8 to 1-8. Decent enough game for reserves. each team had a few potential seniors playing - we had benny dillon, shay and young james campbell. Dunloy had Darren quinn, young dowds and one of the mcmullans at midfield.

Lads all the talk about the county etc. Read my previous post, the work must be done at underage level - u-6, 8, 10, 12, 14 and 16 over the next 10 years or so. North antrim are definitely getting it sorted at min with some good initial work along with some of the schools most notably Cross and Passion who seem to be putting alot of work in. It will take 10 years of this, not 1 or 2 before we see any real benefit.

As for county - cant see sambo etc staying next year. Who would want the job.

Max read a couple of your posts - what does a club like bellaghy, ballinderry, slaughtneil etc do to achieve success?/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 04, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
Anyone care to predict the spread for the game at the weekend or is it too scary a prospect?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on July 04, 2008, 01:19:43 PM
Antrim (SHC v Waterford) - Ryan McGarry, Arron Graffin, Neil McGarry, Mickey Kettle, Ciaran Herron, Cormac Donnelly, Johnny Campbell, Karl McKeegan, Eddie McCloskey, Michael Magill, Karl Stewart, Donal McNaughton, Michael Herron, Paddy Richmond, Paul Shiels.

Subs - Chrissy O'Connell, Michael McCambridge, Simon McCrory, Brendan Quinn, PJ O'Connell, James McKeague, Shane McNaughton, Colm Duffin, Darren Hamill, Cathal McAuley

WATERFORD (SH v Antrim): C Hennessy; E Murphy, K McGrath, D Prendergast; S O'Sullivan, T Browne, J Kennedy; M Walsh, D Bennett; E Kelly, G Hurney, S Molumphy; E McGrath, D Shanahan, J Mullane.

I know Waterford have been somewhat in disarray this year but on paper this is still a very strong team.   Our boys are coming off a savaging by Galway, Watson now seems to have gone off Sambo's radar and with Waterford at home and Davy Fitz's first game in charge...I would have to be honest and say the Deise by 18-22 points...something like 5-20 to 1-12 :'(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2008, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 04, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
Anyone care to predict the spread for the game at the weekend or is it too scary a prospect?

Antrim +19, i think Waterford will beat the spread though........Its up to Waterford as to the winning margin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 04, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
My feeling would be that waterford have to get back on the rails with a big performance and after the galway thrashing, fitxy will be attempting to beat the score form that game.

Fitzy may be all this talk about coming half way but believe me from the first minute of this game he will be making sure his new team are ripping into antrim at every break of the ball. There will be no sympathy or taking it easy on us in this one. Alot of their players will be trying to nail down places on the team for later in the summer.

really dangerous one this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2008, 01:46:49 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 04, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
My feeling would be that waterford have to get back on the rails with a big performance and after the galway thrashing, fitxy will be attempting to beat the score form that game.

Fitzy may be all this talk about coming half way but believe me from the first minute of this game he will be making sure his new team are ripping into antrim at every break of the ball. There will be no sympathy or taking it easy on us in this one. Alot of their players will be trying to nail down places on the team for later in the summer.

really dangerous one this.

I always see Waterford as a team that can really run up a big score on Antrim because of the scoring forwards they have, their FB line has alway been suspect but in all probability wont be tested much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 04, 2008, 01:59:04 PM
Minder

Ken Mcgrath in their should slam the door shut on the full bk question for them, he virutally plays as an attacking full back when he is centre bk anyway. Thats why i would be so worried about the score that we are going to conceed as you stated they have classy forwards and scoring midfielders.
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Post by: Trouble Ahead on July 05, 2008, 06:59:28 AM
Minder, i hear from my South Antrim colleague at work that some of your boys got lengthy suspensions handed down the other night over the game with the johnnies last week? How many lads where penalised?
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
The match is on waterford fm, i'll keep ye updated.
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:04:27 PM
0-03 1-00
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:05:32 PM
1-1 0-03
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:07:46 PM
1-1 0-04
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:11:09 PM
1-1 0-5
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:12:50 PM
1-2 0-05
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:17:13 PM
2-2 0-05
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:18:55 PM
2-3 0-05
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Post by: Minder on July 05, 2008, 02:20:25 PM
Well we have stuck with them for the first ten mins. . . . . .
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
3-4 0-07
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:30:54 PM
4-6 0-09
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:36:50 PM
4-6 0-11 ht
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Post by: orangeman on July 05, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 04, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
"I don't believe this is the way things worked out, and I don't believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK either, or that Aidan McAnespie died by accident".

See Sambo got some important things off his chest before the Waterford game tomorrow.  Sambo your a genius!!



Did Sambo actually say this ? If so, when and where and in what context ?
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Post by: Square Ball on July 05, 2008, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:36:50 PM
4-6 0-11 ht

Groundie, is this on anywhere?
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Post by: Square Ball on July 05, 2008, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 05, 2008, 02:41:18 PM
http://www.wlrfm.com/
Quote from: hardstation on July 05, 2008, 02:46:44 PM
Waterford have the wind in the 2nd half. Looks like the spread will be covered.

cheers

and what was the spread HS?
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:56:26 PM
4-08 0-11
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 02:57:56 PM
4-08 0-12
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 03:05:40 PM
4-12 0-12
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
5-14 0-12
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
pulling away big time
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Post by: orangeman on July 05, 2008, 03:17:21 PM
This is a bad hammering now ( with Waterford putting their subs on )
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Post by: Minder on July 05, 2008, 03:24:48 PM
Personally i think conceding 12 goals in two games at inter county level is a joke and should not be acceptable in this day and age of "elite athlete "
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wherefromreferee? on July 05, 2008, 03:28:39 PM
Minder, did you really expect anything else?  Shows similarities with the Galway game, were the stuck with Waterford for a while, only for them to pull away.
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Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 03:28:50 PM
6-18 0-15 ft
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Post by: Minder on July 05, 2008, 04:23:24 PM
I Expected us to get beaten heavily,i thought after conceding 6 goals last week the players would have redoubled their efforts and would be going out with a determination to keep things tighter at the back,obviously that was unrealistic and the players and managements performances should not be held to account
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
Another hammering, suppose its not to bad, sambo and woody can hide behind the Leinster smokescreen for another week. 12 goals in 2 games? Shite!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bogball XV on July 05, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 05, 2008, 03:29:29 PM
Covered the spread with the last puck, thank f**k.
bollox, i took antrim +21, doubled with laois +24.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 06, 2008, 07:38:36 PM
Sunday 06th July 2008
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Portaferry    1-14   1-12   Loughgiel    Portaferry      
Glenariff    2-9   1-18   Cushendall    Glenariff

Good win for portaferry at home. Two matches on tonight in league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 06, 2008, 08:22:12 PM
The Glenariff - Cushendall game was a dull affair. Any Dall men know if that was that Cushendalls full team? They seemed quite poor compared with previous years. Glenariff were missing five of their normal starters for this one as well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 06, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballycastle    1-6   7-21   Dunloy    Ballycastle   

holy f**k. Thought dunloy would win easy but not by 33 points

Cushendall were missing 5 or 6 I think. who were Glenariffe missing? All suspended after the st johns match??
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Post by: Minder on July 06, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 06, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballycastle    1-6   7-21   Dunloy    Ballycastle   

holy f**k. Thought dunloy would win easy but not by 33 points

Cushendall were missing 5 or 6 I think. who were Glenariffe missing? All suspended after the st johns match??

Glenariffe were struggling to get a team as they were missing nine for various reasons. Chris Sheppard, Mickey Gettens, Norris Murray and Paul Mc Donnell were all suspended from the St Johns debacle. They have not received the length of their suspensions contrary to "Trouble aheads" "source"........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 06, 2008, 10:03:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 06, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballycastle    1-6   7-21   Dunloy    Ballycastle   

holy f**k. Thought dunloy would win easy but not by 33 points

Cushendall were missing 5 or 6 I think. who were Glenariffe missing? All suspended after the st johns match??

Played them a lock of years ago in the league and beat them by 25 points in the league. Beat us by a point 6 weeks later in the Championship, so I hope feet stay well and truly planted.

That is a shocking scoreline all the same. Have McQuillian's totally lost any historical reference to success at this level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 06, 2008, 11:38:42 PM
Ballycastle were able to win the u-21 crown last year? WTF is going on thats an appaling scoreline especially at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 07, 2008, 10:33:13 AM
Ryan McGarry must be getting sick of reaching into the net thats 13 goals in a 24 hour period must be some sort of record!

The senior county team traveled to play waterford with 18 players.

This is a sad reflection on the current set up.
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Post by: milltown row on July 07, 2008, 11:00:04 AM
I'm back, bloody server wasn't letting me on all fixed now.

played clooney Gaels last night and after going for twenty minutes without them scoring and us hitting 2-7 was thinking we will tank this team. but by the end of the first half they managed 1-2 . the Gaels picked it up in the second half and went in front but could not hold on for the win and we won by 5 in the end, referee did not turn up and they refereed it, did a fair job also.

they had good movement and a game plan that they stuck to. not sure if they would hold their own against the bigger teams though. we had a load of lads that played two games yesterday also, injuries and holidays and states sides lads missing. but sure Ballycran don't seem to be losing and with only one team dropping down, either  Ballycastle or Glenariffe then another year in div 2 awaits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 07, 2008, 11:06:34 AM
Anybody know what way the league tables stand at the minute?
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Post by: Minder on July 07, 2008, 11:10:18 AM
Points in bold Arthur


League table for Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Dunloy  6 6 0 0 142 76 66 12
Loughgiel  6 4 2 0 115 77 38 8
Portaferry  7 4 3 0 122 110 12 8
St. Johns  6 4 2 0 100 88 12 8
Ballygalget  6 3 3 0 104 98 6 6
Cushendall  6 2 4 0 95 112 -17 4
Glenariff  7 1 6 0 120 159 -39 2
Ballycastle  6 1 5 0 68 146 -78 2
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 07, 2008, 11:31:10 AM
Thanks Chuck, looks like it will prob be Glenariff or Ballycastle for the chop....unless the leagues are restructured again.....
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Post by: Minder on July 07, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 07, 2008, 11:31:10 AM
Thanks Chuck, looks like it will prob be Glenariff or Ballycastle for the chop....unless the leagues are restructured again.....

Well they probably will be restructured if the Town are for the drop.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 07, 2008, 12:33:08 PM
Aye they are going very poorly HS..think they are finding it hard getting the numbers out(nothing coming through)....& alot of the older players who came out of retirement to win the intermediate have quit again.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on July 07, 2008, 01:26:20 PM
Sure Cushendun will win the heap now they are using/marketing new synthetic sticks! I think they'll need more than these to make much progress with no players coming through!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 07, 2008, 04:54:40 PM
In fairness to cushendun they would have normally been an intermediate side they punched well above there weight for a number of years, as it must be said glenariffe are doing now in all fairness. When you see some of the turn outs for st brendans which is a three team accumulation its fair to say that it will be quite a while before cushendun are back in senior hurling.
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Post by: Belfast Gael on July 07, 2008, 04:56:41 PM
would it not be better for antrim hurling if we got rid of the down clubs and had an 8 team all Antrim league...?
::) ???

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Post by: slow corner back on July 07, 2008, 05:21:00 PM
Welcome Belfast Gael and thanks for the controversial first post. I have top disagree with you on it the down teams generally produce good competitive sides which improve the standard of our leagues. If the top eight sides in Antrim were good enough the three down teams would be relegated to div 2 however the top sides in antrim are not good enough and next year we will have three down teams in Div1 once again. The main point is to keep div 1 as competitive as possible and improve the overall standard of hurling, banning the down teams will not do that
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Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2008, 05:40:27 PM
Afraid scb is 100% correct BG. The Antrim clubs not making the grade have to improve. If they were hurling at the right standard then they wouldn't be where they are. Fact is the 3 ards clubs are far more serious about their hurling than most if not all belfast clubs. It certainly feels that way when you see them compete. They look as if they give a fcuk, which is something which could not be said about many players in Belfast (although not all I hasten to add).
Lots of work needed to improve the game and more importantly the levels of passion for hurling throughout the county. All this county team shite is so negative and self defeating. We should focus on our club game and really increase the PR it gets and look for more positive messages regarding the game rather than demoralise ourselves with hammerings down south every summer. That to me is the way forward
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Post by: bannside on July 07, 2008, 07:20:05 PM
Whats the story with only 18 players travelling to play Waterford/
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Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 07, 2008, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 07, 2008, 05:40:27 PM
Fact is the 3 ards clubs are far more serious about their hurling than most if not all belfast clubs.

Are all of the major Belfast hurling clubs not dual clubs, whereas the Ards clubs are hurling only? Does that point the way to go perhaps?
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Post by: sail_in on July 07, 2008, 08:23:06 PM
Quoteplayed clooney Gaels last night and after going for twenty minutes without them scoring and us hitting 2-7 was thinking we will tank this team. but by the end of the first half they managed 1-2 . the Gaels picked it up in the second half and went in front but could not hold on for the win and we won by 5 in the end, referee did not turn up and they refereed it, did a fair job also.

they had good movement and a game plan that they stuck to. not sure if they would hold their own against the bigger teams though. we had a load of lads that played two games yesterday also, injuries and holidays and states sides lads missing. but sure Ballycran don't seem to be losing and with only one team dropping down, either  Ballycastle or Glenariffe then another year in div 2 awaits

to be honest Milltown I was very disappointed by our display yesterday - I thought we would have give you a better game than that.

we didn't start early enough and then once we did start we quit too early, having only played about 20 minutes.  I don't think anybody could seriously argue that the better team lost though, so fair play to you! 

Matches like that are the sort we want to be playing and that game, together with St Paul's this Sunday, and Randalstown next weekend will hopefully leave us in good shape going into the Chamionship against Armoy on the 2nd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 07, 2008, 09:36:27 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on July 07, 2008, 04:54:40 PM
In fairness to cushendun they would have normally been an intermediate side they punched well above there weight for a number of years, as it must be said glenariffe are doing now in all fairness. When you see some of the turn outs for st brendans which is a three team accumulation its fair to say that it will be quite a while before cushendun are back in senior hurling.

In fairness SCB we have been an established Div 1 team since 2002, though we will face a battle with the town to stay up this year, this coincided with some of our strong minors making the step up to senior level, players like Conor Mc Alister, Seamus Doherty, Paul & Randall Mc Donnell. We have had reasonably strong under age teams for a fair years now. Our under age coaches such as Malachy Leech, Gerry Cosgrove and Niall O Connor are now involved with Antrim development squads and our club owes them a lot for the work they have put in for the last 15 years. Before they became involved under age training in Glenariffe consisted of the lads being split into two teams and told to play a match for an hour with no focus on basic skills or fundamentals. Cushenduns success throughout the 90's was also down to some great St Pats minor teams in the late 80's, but they have had nobody coming through for years now and are relying on fellas coming out of retirement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 08, 2008, 10:11:46 AM
The key then Minder is to keep this work up and get more people involved and bring more and more good young players through your system.

Although I would have to say having seen you play a couple of times this year, maybe someone could have a word with your senior team as well
because there is more potential in that team than they are showing for a variety of reasons.

I agree though the club structure and promoting it is the best way forward and really making a drive to make this competitive and then other things can spring from there.
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Post by: youngfella on July 08, 2008, 11:18:05 PM
Just seen the score off the town game, holy feck what is ould pinky doing to them? What way was to the team lined out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 09, 2008, 09:03:42 AM
I think Cody himself would have trouble getting a competitive team out of that group of players.

This is one of the biggest disgraces of recent years, a club that wins an under 21 championship last year and then not being able to even field a semi competitive team in a senior league game.

What is going wrong with that club should be the question to be asking?
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Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 09, 2008, 09:06:54 AM
Fear not, it's bound to be a 9 or 10 team Division 1 next year & SHC unchanged. Bet they're working on it already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 09, 2008, 11:24:38 AM
Any word on the Under 21 team for tonight? Are thet going to take this seriously this year, or allowed themselves to get caught like last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 09, 2008, 12:08:39 PM
Its next wednesday Cloot. They were training last night. 24 were present
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Post by: NAG on July 09, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
God that is more than traveled for the seniors at the weekend is there any free gear going or whats going on?
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 09, 2008, 12:21:47 PM
Ha Ha. I dont NAG. I'm sure we should have a good solid team if fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 09, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 09, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
God that is more than traveled for the seniors at the weekend is there any free gear going or whats going on?

County website would argue with that assertion !! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 09, 2008, 01:07:49 PM
what assertion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 09, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
FROM Official Antrim Guestbook. I havent heard the word "twaddle" used in many a year........


Name : Jerry

What does it say about the morale of the camp and indeed the management that only 18 players travelled to Waterford at the weekend........

Admin Reply - This is absolute twaddle. Get your facts right and stop listening to hearsay and gossip.
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Post by: NAG on July 09, 2008, 01:45:16 PM
Minder

I know for a fact how many went and this is the kind of BS that is really putting me off this current set up, if they had a full compliment of players why did they feel the need to go back and ask cap in hand for p magill to come back for the weekend?

Just tell the truth for once the weekend was a shambles and we must have looked like seriously professional outfit warming up with 18 players.

Serious questions need to be asked and if the administrator on the county website cant see that then he is more blind than that eejit on bloody big brother!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 09, 2008, 02:21:29 PM
Oh i know NAG, one of the Glenariffe players asked a Cushendall player (that was named to start i think against Waterford) after the league game on Sunday how he got on and he said he didnt go ! !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 09, 2008, 02:26:13 PM
All-Ireland SHC qualifiers
At Walsh Park.
Waterford 6-18
Antrim 0-15
Waterford - C Hennessy; E Murphy, K McGrath, D Prendergast; S O'Sullivan, T Browne, J Kennedy; M Walsh, D Bennett (0-1); E Kelly (2-3, 3f), G Hurney (1-0), S Molumphy (1-0); E McGrath (0-5), D Shanahan (0-4), J Mullane (2-2). Subs - J Nagle (0-2) for Bennett, B Phelan for Browne, P Flynn (0-1) for Hurney, R Foley for Walsh, T Feeney for Prendergast.
Antrim - R McGarry; A Graffin, C Donnelly, J McKeague; C Herron (0-1), K McKeegan, J Campbell; E McCloskey, PJ O'Connell (0-2); S McNaughton (0-1), K Stewart (0-2), B Quinn (0-1); M Herron (0-1), P Richmond, P Shiels (0-7, 5f).
Ref - M Haverty (Galway).

No Antrim subs mentioned rite enuff.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 09, 2008, 06:46:19 PM
according to the paper Micky McCambridge came on after 20 mins for James McKeague. Heard that 19 travelled to Waterford for whatever reason...still very poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on July 09, 2008, 11:11:04 PM
In fairness after talking to a few of the lads I know, what's the point of going to w-ford if you were only going to sit on the bench. I'd say a lot of the subs felt like that. But there's boys in club teams who would love to be involved in Antrim, whats going wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 10, 2008, 09:51:51 AM
If the boys were properly motivated there wouldnt be a question of them traveling for an important game like this.

What happened the shamrocks last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on July 10, 2008, 10:26:04 AM
Nag, catch a grip, i hear the Aholes wanted upgraded to a 4* star hotel, JC who do they think they are!!!! Would,nt get that from the ARDS men!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 10, 2008, 10:37:08 AM
Trouble ahead

What are you on about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 10, 2008, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 10, 2008, 11:23:24 AM
Johnnies drew with Ballygalget last night, sitting second in the league at the moment.

terrible night for hurling, it pished all the way through, 1-7 to 10 points tells its own tale.

On the plus side for us Dingy and Magic made their comebacks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 10, 2008, 11:45:09 AM
St Johns still going. Heard Loughgiel had only 16 players due to injuries/holidays..they must have been well short as thye normally have a whole host of subs. The town must have been well up for it after the Dunloy match.

Cushendall v Portaferry tonight in C'dall at 7.45pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 10, 2008, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 10, 2008, 11:45:09 AM
St Johns still going. Heard Loughgiel had only 16 players due to injuries/holidays..they must have been well short as thye normally have a whole host of subs. The town must have been well up for it after the Dunloy match.

Cushendall v Portaferry tonight in C'dall at 7.45pm

It's still on the county website for Sunday.

???   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on July 10, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Its the blue and white revolution
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 10, 2008, 12:36:42 PM
From Cushendall website

Ruairi Og v Portaferry
10 July 2008
The Senior League match with Portaferry has been moved to Thursday 10 July at 7.45pm at home.
The Reserve match remains on Sunday 13 July but is now at 12.00noon.
© Ruairi Og CLG 2008         
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 11, 2008, 09:58:38 AM
who is playing who this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 11, 2008, 10:06:46 AM
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Ballygalget  Dunloy  Ballygalget 13/07/2008 14:00 Torney Hugh   
St. Johns  Ballycastle  Corrigan Park 13/07/2008 19:00 Matthews Ray   
Glenariff  Loughgiel  Glenariff 13/07/2008 19:00 McAuley Liam   
Antrim Hurling Reserve D1
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Ballygalget  Dunloy  Ballygalget 13/07/2008 12:30 O'Flynn Cathal   
Cushendall  Portaferry  Cushendall 13/07/2008 17:30 Mitchell Willie   
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Carey Faughs  Tir na Nog  Armoy 13/07/2008 14:00 Traynor Francis   
Glenravel  Cushendun  Glenravel 13/07/2008 19:00 Wells Terence   
Ballycran  Rossa  Ballycran 13/07/2008 19:00 Duffy Garrett   
Cloughmills  Sarsfields  Cloughmills 13/07/2008 19:00 Brown Gary   
Gaeil Chluana  St. Pauls  Ahoghill 13/07/2008 19:00 Reilly Terry   
Lamh Dhearg  Shane O Neills  Lamh Dhearg 13/07/2008 19:00 Carroll Gerry   
Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Lamh Dhearg 2 Ardoyne  Lamh Dhearg 13/07/2008 17:30 Gormley Kevin   
St. Teresas  St. Galls 2 St. Teresas 13/07/2008 19:00 Prenter Sean   
Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Sean McDermotts  Creggan Gaels  Cherryvale 13/07/2008 14:00 Willoughby Sean   
Sarsfields 2 St. Brigids B Sarsfields 13/07/2008 15:00 French Michael   
Larne  Davitts  Larne 13/07/2008 15:00 McVeigh John
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 11, 2008, 11:55:30 AM
Cheers pwtw

Nothing too exciting in there, think alot of the teams will be looking forward to catching the munster final with a few beers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 11, 2008, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 11, 2008, 11:55:30 AM
Cheers pwtw

Nothing too exciting in there, think alot of the teams will be looking forward to catching the munster final with a few beers!

The dunlodians are welcome to watch on our big screen and bet on the first and last scorer with Charlie pike holding the pot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 11, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Glenariffe are struggling to get a team to play the Bodies due to gentlemen that are suspended, gentlemen at Oxygen and gentlemen with broken fingers.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 11, 2008, 02:23:51 PM
I wouldnt have thought there was any drinkers or gamblers in dunloy JC

They would be far too good living up round that part of the world.

Good to see some of the brethren havent left for the 12th yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 12, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 10, 2008, 11:45:09 AM
St Johns still going. Heard Loughgiel had only 16 players due to injuries/holidays..they must have been well short as thye normally have a whole host of subs. The town must have been well up for it after the Dunloy match.


did the town beat loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 14, 2008, 02:45:06 PM
Dunloy beat Ballygalget in a decent competitive game yesterday by about 2 points, 1-12 to 0-17 or so.  Both team missing a few, they had no Johnston or Eoin Clarke but Stephen Clarke performed very well in CHF.  We were missing Dick, Ally, Paddy Doc, James McKeague, Mal Molloy & Damien McMullan.  some of our younger players really coming into there own.

getting close to championship now, still plenty to improve on

Any word on other matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 14, 2008, 04:47:40 PM
From the county website

Cushendall  0-12 1-13 Portaferry  Cushendall   
St. Johns  0-19 1-16 Ballycastle  Corrigan Park   
Ballygalget  1-12 0-18 Dunloy  Ballygalget   
Antrim Hurling Reserve D1
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Ballygalget  0-11 2-15 Dunloy  Ballygalget   
Cushendall  0-9 2-21 Portaferry  Cushendall   
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Glenravel  - - Cushendun  Glenravel Not Played 
Ballycran  2-22 3-9 Rossa  Ballycran   
Cloughmills  3-11 2-10 Sarsfields  Cloughmills   
Gaeil Chluana  0-16 0-13 St. Pauls  Ahoghill   
Lamh Dhearg  0-0 0-0 Shane O Neills  Lamh Dhearg   
Carey Faughs  2-18 3-15 Tir na Nog

Carey threw away a nine point lead to draw with Randalstown. Surprise draw for Ballycastle at St Johns that hiding from dunloy seems to have sparked some life into them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 14, 2008, 11:50:58 PM
Which of you Antrim boys prefer hurling to football? Just wondering as the county seems to have a split for first preference judging by the 2 threads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on July 15, 2008, 08:22:49 AM
QuoteWhich of you Antrim boys prefer hurling to football? Just wondering as the county seems to have a split for first preference judging by the 2 threads.

* Raises Hand * Me!

PS - Anyone know what the craic is with that Glenarm, Lamh Dhearg scoreline?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 15, 2008, 09:33:52 AM
Me too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 16, 2008, 09:25:23 AM
Max

It must be leaving your selectors with a serious job if you can go down there and beat b'galget with so many missing, is there any of the big names under pressure or will they go with the tried and tested?
Title: Re: Dunloy v Ballygalget
Post by: Last Man on July 16, 2008, 10:09:37 AM
Was at thst match, thought young woody looked very solid at no.3. The full forward was a bit past it and didnt cause many problems but he looked confident, read the play well and mostly made the right decisions. He is definitley more comfortable in a central role than on a wing, Mckeague is a good full back but could probobly play anywhere in the defence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 16, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
Just will be interesting to see who they eventually go with.

A few good selection issues for them!

Anyone seen sambo's last set of comments? Who is he referring to there? Has he finally lost the plot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 16, 2008, 11:54:10 AM
Anyone know if many in attendance at the Under 21 sessions?

I don't think team is being names until today. A few good players in there.

Is Branniff still under 21 for Down (I may be way off the mark here).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 16, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
Glensman you are he is way over the age group now

5 seniors at the training last night if that gives you any indication of how we are fixed for the weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 16, 2008, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 16, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
Glensman you are he is way over the age group now

5 seniors at the training last night if that gives you any indication of how we are fixed for the weekend

5 seniors at senior training or under 21 training (or are they running them together?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 16, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Aye Braniff is about 25....so just misses U21 by 4 years.

Down have some hurlers at that level but we should still win handy enough. McManus is a huge loss.

Seniors were due to train last night as well. Poor turnouts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 16, 2008, 12:34:58 PM
Braniff is about 26/27, had he been u21 this year that would have made him 11 when he played against Antrim in a minor final...

Quote from: NAG on July 16, 2008, 09:25:23 AM
Max

It must be leaving your selectors with a serious job if you can go down there and beat b'galget with so many missing, is there any of the big names under pressure or will they go with the tried and tested?

Fierce pressure on the management, the u21 win was good for the club and has really brought on some of the young players, no sure who will miss out but would think from the team that started final last year Sean Dowds, Woody, Darren quinn, Paudie McMullan, Gabriel McTaggart, Paddy Doc &  Darren Webb are all making really big shouts to get on, bear in mind only one person retired.

whats the story with the dall, when are the injured players expected back.  they are the one team that can win a championship of the back of a poor league showing and i fully expect them to be serious contenders
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 16, 2008, 03:31:38 PM
I agree with you about cushendall will be an interesting match between them and the Johnnies.

So who do you think is going to push into the team this year then Max?

Good youth policy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 16, 2008, 09:30:22 PM
NAG...Cushendall have to beat Glenariiffe first & wont be taking that challenge lightly

Heard U21'S won 2-18 to 0-8. Good start but Derry should be tougher opposition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 16, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
Rossa were running into a bit of form in Div2 lately until they had to go to ballycran at the weekend where they got handed there asses on a plate by the look of the scoreline. In fairness Ballycran are pissing all over everyone in this division
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2008, 09:03:07 AM
Is Sean Delargy still on honeymoon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 17, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
Not sure Minder but I would imagine with the amount of hurling he has missed wouldnt be a starter anyway.

I will be amazed if they can get 21 players to turn up at the weekend, I see that they have gone back for P Magill after he was dropped off the panel.

Two Hands, I wasnt discounting Glenarriffe but cushendalls record against them in big games more or less does that itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Quiz Question:Name the last player to play number 14,11, 6 and then 3 in one season of intercounty hurling?
I fear someone may throw Sambo's name into the ring as having done so but I'm not sure...

Hippy looked good last night at his own age level. If he got a couple of yards of pace from somewhere he would be the future.
Michael Magill must be off the panel as he is not on squad (though down for footballers - he and Jody kissed and made up?).

Win this one, beat lumps out of each other in our own championship, take stock and then go at it again.
Its what we do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 17, 2008, 09:48:26 AM
No harm whatsoever to the lad
But do you not think that says more about the management than the player?

How many training sessions were held could he not have been tired and tested there and given a place rather than using the important games as practice?

Also this is a lad that has yet to complete a full season of senior hurling with his club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on July 17, 2008, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: sail_in on July 15, 2008, 08:22:49 AM
QuoteWhich of you Antrim boys prefer hurling to football? Just wondering as the county seems to have a split for first preference judging by the 2 threads.

* Raises Hand * Me!

PS - Anyone know what the craic is with that Glenarm, Lamh Dhearg scoreline?

Lamh Dhearg v Glenarm was a draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 17, 2008, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: maxpower on July 14, 2008, 02:45:06 PM
Dunloy beat Ballygalget in a decent competitive game yesterday by about 2 points, 1-12 to 0-17 or so.  Both team missing a few, they had no Johnston or Eoin Clarke but Stephen Clarke performed very well in CHF.  We were missing Dick, Ally, Paddy Doc, James McKeague, Mal Molloy & Damien McMullan.  some of our younger players really coming into there own.

getting close to championship now, still plenty to improve on

Any word on other matches

We were missing a few more than that but its on the day and Dunloy were the better team and once they took the lead we never looked like gettting enough scores to get back in the lead. Big Woodie did look the part but he had all the time in the world and not a challenge on him so I wouldn't read too much into his performance but he does have that languid stride his Da had which ate up the ground, certainly has a lot going for him.

We're up with the bodies this sunday, so hopefully we can be more competitive than we were against them last day out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 17, 2008, 01:45:44 PM
Could anyone tell me why Simon McCrory & Barry McFall weren't playing last night?Are they not available for selection...does Micky J not let them play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 17, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
oh have they decide to take it seriously this year

I thought they normally took the 12th fortnight off for a few beers, holidays and stuff!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 17, 2008, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 17, 2008, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: Glensman on July 17, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Quiz Question:Name the last player to play number 14,11, 6 and then 3 in one season of intercounty hurling?

Guess: Pinky.

Very good shout, shows the versatility of ballycastle lads!  :P

Did he play in CHB?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 17, 2008, 05:55:35 PM
When nealer mcauley be fit for championship? Is pinky playin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 17, 2008, 08:45:28 PM
Neal Mcauley out as far as I know, pinky should be playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 17, 2008, 09:38:44 PM
Hmm without a fit neal in team the town are up a creek. Has steve mc garry lost a stone or two and started to play again? He was once a handy hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2008, 10:01:46 PM
Any odds for Antrim v Laois ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 18, 2008, 12:59:37 PM
Antrim..to have more than 20 players - 2/1
           to have less than 20 players  - 1/3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 18, 2008, 01:38:31 PM
Two Hands

Its ok they have recruited alot of the U21 panel to fill out the squad for saturdays game.

We couldnt go to this important game with just the bare 19 players again  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 18, 2008, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 18, 2008, 01:38:31 PM
Two Hands

Its ok they have recruited alot of the U21 panel to fill out the squad for saturdays game.

We couldnt go to this important game with just the bare 19 players again  ;)

"This is absolute twaddle. Get your facts right and stop listening to hearsay and gossip." copyright the county website.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 18, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on July 18, 2008, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: NAG on July 18, 2008, 01:38:31 PM
Two Hands

Its ok they have recruited alot of the U21 panel to fill out the squad for saturdays game.

We couldnt go to this important game with just the bare 19 players again  ;)

"This is absolute twaddle. Get your facts right and stop listening to hearsay and gossip." copyright the county website.   :D

I asked yesterday why there were only 21 players named, i was informed that two players were on holidays etc etc, the Admin named the 2 players as Sean Delargy & Mickey Kettle. I replied to ask was this the same Mickey Kettle that was named at corner back, no reply and the previous reply was amended to take Kettles name out !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 18, 2008, 02:03:11 PM
Its all smoke and mirrors in there at the moment the wheels have completely come off the wagon and they havent a clue how to sort it out.

They have lacked discipline and motivation all year and last week and this week are proving it by the numbers of players that are having to beg borrow and steal to fill the thing up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 18, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
So whats the bigger mess at the moment, Antrim hurling or Antrim football?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 18, 2008, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
So whats the bigger mess at the moment, Antrim hurling or Antrim football?



You can't separate them...............the whole county's a complete & utter shambles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 18, 2008, 02:22:56 PM
Hope to God the Doc isnt on the thread the day!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 18, 2008, 02:26:24 PM
If he would pay more attention to some of the good ideas on here and stop blowing smoke in the media then we might move forward.

Both senior set ups are a joke, we should start with u10 and u12's and work them up.

And let the clubs get on with the work they are doing without crying about training for the county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 18, 2008, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 18, 2008, 02:22:56 PM
Hope to God the Doc isnt on the thread the day!!!

We might find out why Glenravel / Cushendun wasn't played last Sunday if he passes through.

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 18, 2008, 07:43:41 PM
Cushendun were to busy organising pig racing. I kid you not it is on tonight over there if anyone is intrested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 18, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2008, 07:45:18 PM
Greatest fundraisers in Antrim are Cushendun.

That's good to know. £300 they owe the CCC from last Sunday apparently & Glenravel as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on July 19, 2008, 04:07:51 PM
Antrim 2-18 Laois 0-16

It'll be good to put the inter-county season to bed now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2008, 04:19:12 PM
Agreed,as long as nobody tells us we have made "progress"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 19, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
take the spin on this lads:

After a difficult few weeks, Antrim ended their involvement in National competitions with a comprehensive win over Laois.  The early promise shown by this young Antrim side when they won the Walsh Cup and defeated Wexford in the National League never provided a platform for them to move on from there. However, today's win only adds strength to their argument that they are stuck in the "no-man's land" of too good for Christy Ring and not good enough for the Liam McCarthy. The fact that several other counties are in a similar position will add weight to the widspread calls for change to structures if any of these counties are going to be provided with a means to improve and progress.

Goals were the catalyst for this Antrim victory as they ensured their Liam MacCarthy Cup status by beating 14-man Laois in Navan.

The Saffrons began well with a Shane McNaughton goal after 19 seconds, but Laois pressed hard thanks to the efforts of Noel Costello (0-05).

Although the sides were level on three occasions, Antrim led by 1-10 to 0-10 at half-time.

The dismissal of John A Delaney failed to hit Laois badly, but a 62nd-minute Paddy Richmond goal sealed the issue.

Scarcely 150 spectators watched on as the Ulster champions guaranteed themselves a place in next year's All-Ireland championship, with Laois' status now depending on a play-off against the 2008 Christy Ring Cup champions.

Neither side hit top gear in this game, which was dominated by two crucial scores - goals in either half for the Saffrons from Shane McNaughton and Paddy Richmond.

Both McNaughton and Richmond impressed in a full-forward line that bagged a tally of 2-12 over the course of the contest.

Antrim could not have asked for a better start, and aided by a strong wind, they signalled their intent right from the throw-in.

The ball was worked in towards full-forward Richmond, who directed a pass to McNaughton, and the son of joint-manager 'Sambo' McNaughton exposed the Laois defence and slotted home the first goal.

Despite that leaking of an early goal, Laois would not give Antrim an easy game and the O'Moore men cut the gap to the minimum thanks to points from Noel Costello and John Brophy.

But an eager Antrim attack restored their goal lead, after Richmond slotted between the posts.

The sides were level on three occasions over the remainder of a keenly-contested opening half, but McNaughton's goal continued to be difference as the Saffrons took a 1-10 to 0-10 buffer into the second period.

Costello hit five first half points for Laois, with his half-forward colleagues Colin Delaney and Willie Hyland also effective.

Despite Antrim also possessing a strong attack, with five of their six starting forwards on target before the interval, they should have converted a lot more chances in the opening 35 minutes, hitting seven first half wides.

Laois goalkeeper Paddy Mullaney also pulled off some fine saves including a penalty stop from Antrim's net minder Ryan McGarry in the 30th-minute.

Laois were keen to begin the second half on a positive note, but paid dearly for two early missed chances from Costello, who was subsequently replaced by John Rowney.

The Midlanders' opponents hit three points in succession, including a Paul Shiels brace of frees, to open up a 1-13 to 0-10 lead by the 44th-minute.

Niall Rigney's side failed to throw in the towel as an excellent string of points - all from open play - ensured that a goal separated the sides as the game entered the final quarter with Hyland, Colin Delaney and John Brophy all on target.

However, Antrim's full-forward line of McNaughton, Richmond and Paul Shiels continued to impress, and a McNaughton point in injury-time put the icing on the win.

Scorers - Antrim: P Shiels 0-08, 0-08f, S McNaughton 1-03, P Richmond 1-01, K Stewart 0-02, J Campbell, E McCloskey, M Herron, C Duffin 0-01 each. Laois: N Costello 0-05 (0-04f), W Hyland, J Brophy (0-01f) 0-03 each, E Holohan, C Delaney 0-02 each, T Fitzgerald 0-01.

ANTRIM: R McGarry; A Graffin, C Donnelly, M Kettle; C Herron, K McKeegan, J Campbell; E McCloskey, PJ O'Connell; M Herron, K Stewart, P Magill; S McNaughton, P Richmond, P Shiels.

Subs used: C Duffin for O'Connell (41 mins), C McKinley for Herron (66), J McKeague for Magill (70).

LAOIS: P Mullaney; D Maher, B Campion, M McEvoy; J A Delaney, J Phelan, C Coonan; E Holohan, J Walsh; C Delaney, W Hyland, N Costello; N Holmes, T Fitzgerald, J Brophy.

Subs used: E Browne for Walsh (27-29 mins, blood sub), J Rowney for Costello (39), C Dunne for Coonan (56), S Hanlon for Holohan (58).

Referee: Jason O'Mahony (Limerick).

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 19, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 19, 2008, 07:47:56 PM
interesting to see woodys son getting a run out.

Holy Christ :o. Even as a Dunloy man and having great belief in young woodies potential, thats just not right. He still has to cement his place for Dunloy FFS. They can talk all they like about prepapring the U21's but that is showing no respect to the boys who have trained all year (I'm assuming that some of them were on the line today)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 20, 2008, 03:59:55 PM
i wonder has there ever been a manager that hasn't put his son on the team that he's been looking after? as Skull has said if your just about getting on your own team and then playing for the county senior team then it's unfair on the fringe players who have been there since October, training in the mud and in the gym doing the strength and condidtioning training they so obviously done. as they are so fit and big ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 20, 2008, 06:32:13 PM
We won and were a fair bit better than Laois (from people at the game).

We're not relegated and we did the job.

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't (try new blood, who played very well for the under 21s).
Have we got a full list of who were subs/travelled. Woody is a decent defender, was clearly called into the panel as not the full compliment travelling and went on and played as he was put on. Cries of nepotism are made all too frequently in the GAA and we need to have a look at it.
Shane McNaughton might not start in the full strength team but did a job, a good one.
Young Woody must have been called up this week and did a job.

Skull - if you want to get into specifics about him not nailing down a club spot that just doesn't make sense. Without naming names in Dunloy team your logic doesn't make sense....should those players therefore then be on the panel and be in there? Would they have travelled/could they care less about the county (in no way a jibe at them)?
Perhaps harsh on certain players who have trained (but as I say I'd like to see the subs).
If he was the best fit as a sub in an important relegation battle then he goes on. Full stop (although there already was one).

On a related but slightly different note, one of my pet hates about the GAA is where players are moved into positions as one is playing well and one isn't. A corner forward is having a stormer, a wing half forward isn't and they are swapped. WRONG. Pull the wing half off and replace him or move two players who are playing on a par. (I realise it is not always possible to have a perfect fit on the bench.
Similarly (slightly) if there is a better player who is a sub who is a midfielder, who is a better player than someone who is a back on the bench, the whole team is rejigged to fit that better player.

Heard Karl Stewart had a great game. In my opinion...given performances of late and dedication ne should be a shoe in for Antrim Hurler of the Year.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 20, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
Páirc Tailteann, Navan looked resplendent; both Antrim and Laois served up a keenly-contested contest but patrons voted with their feet and stayed away for the most-part from this All-Ireland SHC playoff, as a crowd in the region of 150 people watch Antrim secure top-flight status for 2009.


The 150 figure sums it up........more on the touchline than there was on the terraces.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 PM
Quote from: Glensman on July 20, 2008, 06:32:13 PM
You are damned if you do and damned if you don't (try new blood, who played very well for the under 21s).
Have we got a full list of who were subs/travelled. Woody is a decent defender, was clearly called into the panel as not the full compliment travelling and went on and played as he was put on. Cries of nepotism are made all too frequently in the GAA and we need to have a look at it.
Shane McNaughton might not start in the full strength team but did a job, a good one.
Young Woody must have been called up this week and did a job.

Skull - if you want to get into specifics about him not nailing down a club spot that just doesn't make sense. Without naming names in Dunloy team your logic doesn't make sense....should those players therefore then be on the panel and be in there? Would they have travelled/could they care less about the county (in no way a jibe at them)?
Perhaps harsh on certain players who have trained (but as I say I'd like to see the subs).
If he was the best fit as a sub in an important relegation battle then he goes on. Full stop (although there already was one).

Heard Karl Stewart had a great game. In my opinion...given performances of late and dedication ne should be a shoe in for Antrim Hurler of the Year.
Thoughts?

Glens if woody was the only defender left on the bench and one of the players was injured/having a stinker then fair enough. If there were other defenders on the line who had trained all year then it was bad form IMO to play him. Simple as. You will not find a better lad than Conor and my comments were not attacking him or were they about any form of nepotism taking place. My point was that if you haven't yet cemented your place on your club senior team, your are not ready to represent your county at senior level (I don't care who it is).

Agree with you about Karl Stewart BTW. A great naturally gifted hurler who has always played the game with passion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 20, 2008, 09:17:39 PM
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Cushendall    1-25   1-10   Ballycastle    Cushendall      
Dunloy    2-21   0-11   Glenariff    Dunloy      
Loughgiel    1-23   1-12   Ballygalget    Loughgiel Shamrocks      
St. Johns    0-7   1-15   Portaferry    Corrigan Park

Some highscoring matches there especially from the top 3 teams in the county. Bad result for St Johns who are starting to slip abit.

Heard last night that it wasnt actually Young Woody who came on...although I dont the player who came on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 21, 2008, 07:10:55 AM
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3

Cushendun  0-9 6-24 Ballycran  :o
Shane O Neills 1-15 3-9 Glenravel
St. Pauls 1-5 0-9 Gort Na Mona
Sarsfields 2-11 2-11 Carey Faughs
Rasharkin 0-0 0-1 Cloughmills  ???
Tir na nOg were beat by Clooney by about 5

Div 2 is a cakewalk for Ballycran - its all about who stays in the top 8 now for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 21, 2008, 10:19:45 AM
any stories from the weekends games

looks to be a bit of a set back for MJ's blue and white army
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 21, 2008, 10:32:25 AM
Dunloy beat Glenariffe handy enough in the end last night, but I'm sure that there was only 2 points in it 15mins into the second half. Pulled away well towards the end. Glenariff didn't look as strong as they did when we played them down there. Seemed to have a few missing, as did we btw.

Terrible result for the Johnnies especially at home. Anybody at the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 21, 2008, 10:55:51 AM
Skull I know your comments weren't about nepotism, Milltown's first sentence was.

Its a tough one...given there is quite a gulf between Dunloy, Loughgeil and Cushendall and the rest it might sometimes be that our county will have players who are there or there abouts with their clubs and are on the county panel. Sometimes players are a better fit than others. There appears to be a very wide pool from Dunloy who are pushing for places 1) that would suggest there are players who are much of a muchness and 2) I hope you get the right blend for the important matches to come.

Ballycran have a different agenda this year (and in the background they'll win Div 2 easy). I'd say they are going hammer and tongs for Ulster.
Cloughmills beat Rasharkin by 4.
Decent result for Sarsfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 21, 2008, 12:48:28 PM
I would imagine that the young fella's pushing through in dunloy would probably have been permanent fixtures already in other clubs without that kind of strength and depth.

I think having played down a divison this year will hurt the cran later in the when it comes to coming up against the big boys who ever they maybe!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on July 21, 2008, 07:15:00 PM
 Was wondering how the County senior keeper was fit to play cf for the Towns res last night? is he not graded, he then was sent off straight red(seen with my own eyes) but then the ref changed it to Two yellows, their was one high profile NA official their wonder what his position is since it was against his club? oop's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 21, 2008, 09:35:31 PM
Glensman my first sentence was a simple question, has there been any manager that hasn't put his son on the county team he's managed? never mention that the county managers are fond of nepotism.

oh we beat Lamhs by 9 i hear, still sunnying myself, hard work... 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on July 21, 2008, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: JamesH on July 21, 2008, 07:15:00 PM
Was wondering how the County senior keeper was fit to play cf for the Towns res last night? is he not graded, he then was sent off straight red(seen with my own eyes) but then the ref changed it to Two yellows, their was one high profile NA official their wonder what his position is since it was against his club? oop's

The education system has gone to hell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MadMick007 on July 22, 2008, 12:07:37 PM
Ballycran have a different agenda this year (and in the background they'll win Div 2 easy). I'd say they are going hammer and tongs for Ulster.

Glensman, I think you are forgetting Ballycran have to come out of Down. Portaferry will take some beating as they are flying in both Div1 and reserves. And as others have stated Div2 pace may be a deciding factor. Ballygalget are not at it a the moment so I fancy Portaferry to come out of Down. To win ulster you will also have to beat the the likes of Dunloy, Cushendal and possibly a few others, and even the winners of Derry who are usually up there. So to say Ballycrans aim is the Ulster is a bit of a shock! Dunloy are obviously favourites, outside bet is the Derry champions. Down Champions to loose in semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 22, 2008, 01:39:46 PM
Haven't forgot any of that Mick.

Every club's AIM is Ulster...No shock there. Its just some are nearer than others. Ballycran won't be too far away.

If their management are on the ball at all tougher friendlies than Div 2/3 will be/have been lined up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 22, 2008, 01:43:47 PM
Who would want to play a friendly at this time of the year?

I dont think any of the big guns would be up for giving ballycran a game just to bring them on.

I think there div 2 status might count against them but they are a strong and improving outfit, I expect them to be too good for portaferry in Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 22, 2008, 01:52:13 PM
Not against Antrim/Down teams...other club sides. A wee drive down south and I'd say there will be good club teams looking for games. It was just a suggestion.
Wasn't suggesting a Dunloy Ballycran closed doors friendly!

Ballycran to win Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 22, 2008, 05:52:36 PM
Would say that the Bodies will be more accomodating that S&W (the selfish boyos that they are?!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2008, 06:01:58 PM
He will probably last a week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 22, 2008, 09:30:53 PM
Do the Donegal Celtic players get paid much, if at all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
First teamers would certainly get paid. Though with not being in the Irish league this year he'd not be getting as much as he could have got.

A lot of them boys, at a guess, should be getting a few hundred quid a week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 22, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
First teamers would certainly get paid. Though with not being in the Irish league this year he'd not be getting as much as he could have got.

A lot of them boys, at a guess, should be getting a few hundred quid a week.

I dont think the DC players would be getting that much, but whatever he is getting will come in handy for buying new scramblers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 22, 2008, 11:57:58 PM
I would think only the top players at DC ie maxi mc veigh would be getting 200/week. For a squad player probably a £50 retainers then appearance money etc. Might make £100-150 if he plays/scores a lot win bonuses etc. He will not get rich in the irish league, I would doubt if Peter Thompson at Linfield was on anymore than £5-600 per week and he was the top player in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on July 23, 2008, 12:28:40 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on July 22, 2008, 11:57:58 PM
I would think only the top players at DC ie maxi mc veigh would be getting 200/week. For a squad player probably a £50 retainers then appearance money etc. Might make £100-150 if he plays/scores a lot win bonuses etc. He will not get rich in the irish league, I would doubt if Peter Thompson at Linfield was on anymore than £5-600 per week and he was the top player in the league.

thompson was on grand + a week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 23, 2008, 09:25:25 AM
There will be a right difference between what linfield players get and even the rest of the league never mind DC.

Anyway hopefully this is the end of all the pandering to him, he is only out for himself and has no concept of loyalty to anything or anyone. The first time that it gets tough or something doesnt go his way then he will be off. On a motor bike or god knows what.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on July 23, 2008, 04:53:05 PM
Squad players get around £80 - £150 a week

i cant see Watson being a star on the suffolk road so enough talk about soccer!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 23, 2008, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on July 23, 2008, 04:53:05 PM
Squad players get around £80 - £150 a week

i cant see Watson being a star on the suffolk road so enough talk about soccer!!

Well said that man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2008, 09:34:09 PM
Any word of the U-21 game tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2008, 09:40:06 PM
Derry 0-16 Antrim 1-11 Result


What happened the "golden generation" ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 23, 2008, 09:43:01 PM
No surprise element this year, very poor result for Antrim although fair play to Derry two years runing is no fluke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2008, 09:50:04 PM
Perhaps some of these lads were not the world beaters at minor that we were led to believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
What is the format? If Derry beat Down they are the champions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
Second-half fade out see Antrim fall to defeat - Derry 0-16 Antrim 1-11
23 July 2008
Antrim Under 21 hurlers saw another Ulster title go by the wayside when a second-half capitulation saw them lose to Derry at Celtic Park on Wednesday evening.
During the first half the young Saffrons had played some good hurling and with team captain Eddie McCloskey sending over some very good points and Colm Duffin grabbing a goal they led at the break by 1-9 to 0-7.
However in the second-half they failed to produce the goods and managed to add just two more points, and when a well drilled and determined Derry team upped the pace the Antrim challenge faded.
Antrim still managed to maintain their lead until the dying minutes and had a series of chances to add to it but a series of unbelievable misses saw them fall to defeat to the Oak Leafers for the second year in succession.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 24, 2008, 09:17:07 AM
just shows you what Derry hurlers can do if they were to put some effort into hurling. big ball game rules, so Antrim have nothing to fear.

if Derry got their act together they would compete with Antrim every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 24, 2008, 09:17:07 AM
if Derry got their act together they would compete with Antrim every year.

And we all would benefit from it if they did. Well done to McGilligan for driving them on this year. A wake up call for Antrim, but then we're pretty good at getting back over to sleep again  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 24, 2008, 09:32:26 AM
Maybe Derry U-21's need to enter Leinster to get more competition...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 24, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 23, 2008, 10:45:59 PM
Jesus. That's bad, again.

why is it bad...thats twice we have dumped you in sucession at u21 level when we were lead to believe that this u21 bunch from Antrim were outstanding. It proves that the work is being done in Derry and that some of the silly stories being promoted about the county board not promoting the game is away from the real truth. Currently our minors have a good environment to develop, otherwise they would not have won the past two years. Lets not forget these derry teams were being beaten at minor level by Antrim, so our internal structures are helping to develop these lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 10:24:33 AM
It proves one of three things Max:

1. The work is being done in Derry.
2. The work's not being done in Antrim.
3. Both of the above.

Sadly I know which one I believe.

You boys can compete at hurling at all levels with Antrim if you put the work in - however as McGilligan says I don't think this is the case.

Don't forget that in these squad of Derry players a number played in Mageean winning Maghera teams - these teams cleaned up so the ability was always there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2008, 11:12:59 AM
If Brian say's that the Derry county board is not promoting the game then I'd be more inclined to go with his opinion than your's Max...no offense. I think he has used this as a motivational tool (along with may others I'm sure) to drive a committed and talented bunch of hurlers to achieve through adversity. Great credit must be given to the "hurling men" in Derry like of which McGilligan is a prime example.

Tommy...I want to know what you believe?

Is it that the work is not being done in Antrim? If it is you'd need to elaborate as that is too vague. What work specifically
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 24, 2008, 11:41:46 AM
The work has been carried out for years with this specific group of players, by a dedicated bunch of coaches through our development structures.

Need I give anyone here a lesson what happened to these men when these lads reached minor level they were told thanks but no thanks we have two boys lined up to take these guys to the next level.

The two boys then run them all over the country and actually IMO get them beat in Mullingar by a good Galway side by implementing a well known tactical ploy with blew up on them big style.

These lads were then brought directly passed go (i.e. any level of senior club hulring) to play on the county squad with the two boys, gradually running down the quality and competitiveness of our senior county team.

Now that they have played on the big stage they are now too good to get beat by derry at U21 after all they beat laois at the weekend.

This is a total indictment of the way the development structures are handled in Antrim. Instead of nuturing and developing the undoubted talent there is, what do our boys do? Fire them into senior county hurling when they are no more ready for senior club hurling. Inflate some ego's and embarass us in our own province for the past two years.

Total respect to Derry hurlers when I say this, but they should not be able to hold a candle to us at the moment, this is not arrogance but it is reality when you look at the talent pool. IMO had this squad of boys been allowed to progress into senior club hurling and learn their trade there these two defeats would not have happened.

somebody stop me please.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 12:07:32 PM
Rather than bigger picture what is / what isn't being done I think that this county in general pays great disservice to the U21 age group. At hurling and football this year I believe that we have had two sets of players as good as we have had for years. I'm not convinced that there's been much emphasis put into training/preparing these teams in either code.

If these guys are as good as we are led to believe then the perfect platform for them to prove this and the level to aspire to would have been against the stronger southern teams. Two years in a row now they have been denied this - either a because they're not good enough or  b they're not being prepared properly. I've seen these guys at minor level and they have handed out some shocking tankings to teams like Derry - so the question has to be what has happened in those 3 years in between or have Derry improved that much.

Having been involved in the senior hurling set-up may have impacted confidence - not sure.

If these guys are to be the future then the perfect platform for them to be "nurtured" is the u21 platform. Either football or hurling. I think they've been denied this.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 24, 2008, 02:05:28 PM
Tommy...........I havent heard any comments this year from S & W but they were a bit disengenuous last year when they said we only trained once or twice, i know that wasnt the case and they have trained a fair few times this year too. Many Antrim U-21 teams have had far worse preparation than this one and have achieved more. It is becoming more apparent that the players are not as good as we were told, which is fair enough as most supporters that attend games know the stnadard of player in Antrim. If there wasnt as much b*llshit being fed to us from the Antrim Board/management there wouldnt be such ill will from certain sections. People are not stupid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2008, 04:09:55 PM
You can't make these vague comments without defining what you mean by not enough work. I could gaurentee you that everybody on that U21 side has been out hurling 3 times a week since March with their clubs so "work" is being done

We need to step back and take a medium term view if that work is not good enough quality and develop people with the capabilites to coach at the right level in every club. No point in blaming S&W for players lacking in "skill"

To me though it's the apathy that exists with Antrim County Teams that brings about results like last night. There's a huge mental/mentality problem with "The saffrons/glensmen" and I'm not sure how it can be delt with. But ones things for sure, if it is not recognised as a problem then it never will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 09:00:06 PM
Ok sorry for being vague...

Definition of what I mean for work in this case: training and playing friendlies as a team. You can do all the training you want with your own club but this will not help you gel the county u21 team. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I haven't seen any evidence of friendlies...

You look at the minor teams we had who may not have beaten southern opposition but at least competed and they played a lot of friendlies. They spent weekends in places like Kilkenny etc. This was good for team spirit, playing as a team and improving them in general with match sharpness against quality opposition.

Personally I think it's time the county employed different u21 and senior manager's in both codes. Both codes have been a huge disappointment over the last few years. The managers have to run with two separate agendas.

The u21 team were missing Neil McManus who is a massive loss and , I think, Simon McRory and McFall. However that's not to get away from anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 24, 2008, 09:29:34 PM
Imtommygunn

The last two U 21 teams have had far better preparation than many Antrim U 21 teams, I remember playing U-21 games for Antrim and we had 2 or 3 meetings where 7 or 8 players turned up, on the day of the game you almost had to be introduced to players to familiarise yourself with them. There is no way an U-21 team is going to get the same preparation as a senior team, there are just not enough free nights in the calendar. We have become the county of the excuse, you would have think they would have learnt their lesson last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 24, 2008, 09:34:37 PM
Im not convinced that the work is being done in Derry at all. It isn't being done in Antrim and Derry have a crop of really good lads at the minute. This will continue to happen now and again but we can cut alot of it out with proper coaching and preparation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 24, 2008, 10:32:53 PM
"I remember playing U-21 games for Antrim....."

Minder, you're starting to sound like Sambo's Irish News column  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2008, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 09:00:06 PM
Ok sorry for being vague...

Definition of what I mean for work in this case: training and playing friendlies as a team. You can do all the training you want with your own club but this will not help you gel the county u21 team. Maybe I'm wrong on this but I haven't seen any evidence of friendlies...

You look at the minor teams we had who may not have beaten southern opposition but at least competed and they played a lot of friendlies. They spent weekends in places like Kilkenny etc. This was good for team spirit, playing as a team and improving them in general with match sharpness against quality opposition.

Personally I think it's time the county employed different u21 and senior manager's in both codes. Both codes have been a huge disappointment over the last few years. The managers have to run with two separate agendas.

The u21 team were missing Neil McManus who is a massive loss and , I think, Simon McRory and McFall. However that's not to get away from anything else.

Cheers Tommy

I have to agree with minder about preparation time. It's a red herring as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure Derry had an equal type of preparation going into the game (i.e not much time to do all the things you suggest would have helped us). Not enough nights in the week to do everything the way you would like to

The other thing is that the couple of years where there was serious time give to the minor teams were some of the worst years for the minor leagues fixtures. Now did we lose more talent from those years as a result of this approach? 

Big responsibility on all the clubs to get their coaching standards up and realize that ultimately the clubs have sole responsibility when it comes to raising standards. Anybody who expects these development squads or county team representation to make any tangible difference to the standard of our game is disillusioned. The Div 2 teams need to push on. The non traditional teams like randlestown/clooney gaels st enda's, who appear to be making a good push need to strive towards div 1 standards and not settle for second best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 24, 2008, 10:56:24 PM
I`d say last nights beating was the lowest point of S/W`s tenure.

Would have been fairly loyal to them in the past, in a message board type of way, but cant get much lower than this.

Best hurling I`ve seen all year, fitness, cohesion, intensity, etc, was from our minors.

Large question marks appearing all over the place, and the good Doc will be judged on his ability to deal effectively with two particularly dire senior teams, and two particularly bad u-21 teams, in the last two years.

Stand up Doc. Time to be having you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 10:58:26 PM
Well perhaps I am trying to find excuses / reasons where there aren't any to be honest.

This bunch were beating Derry minors by a lot,more than I've ever seen for an Antrim minor team, three years ago so hard to explain what has happened since then.

I would definitely agree regarding fixtures. The players outside those squads weren't getting much game time to improve.

I believe very much that u21 and senior managers should not be the same people though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 10:59:34 PM
On the minor note this year it's very low key but seems like a decent bunch of players.

It's Tipp this weekend. Could this be the team to give us something to shout about this year??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 24, 2008, 11:00:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 24, 2008, 10:59:34 PM
On the minor note this year it's very low key but seems like a decent bunch of players.

It's Tipp this weekend. Could this be the team to give us something to shout about this year??

I would doubt it, we have to remember the standard of opposition the two teams have faced in their respective provinces.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2008, 11:32:57 PM
Quote: D. Ó Catháin
24 July 2008
Whenever our players fail to win, in either football or hurling, we in Antrim like to flood this site with trivialities. At present the concentration is on nicknames. Does it really matter what collective name we give to our teams and supporters? Why does this "disease" arise whenever our teams "fail", as supporters see it? I suggest that there are two main reasons:

1. We find it painful to face the truth about our county, so we divert our eyes to look at other things that seem less of a threat to our peace of mind.

2. We place far too much emphasis on "winning". It's not the first time I have stated this here but I say it again because I strongly believe it to be true - an exaggerated emphasis on winning is destructive of effort. Players become disillusioned; managers are under unfair and severe pressure; genuine supporters are depressed; the only ones happy seem to be the prophets of doom.
I maintain that we should concentrate not on winning but on performance, both at personal and team level. If we continue to focus on improving our performance and refuse to be distracted because our opponents outscore us, then, as sure as night follows day, our performance will eventually match that of the very best.

If winning were taken as the be-all and end-all of amateur games, many clubs and counties would have long ago abandoned the games.

So, let us not be afraid to look at the places where performance can be improved. Ar aghaidh linn.


Seen this on the Antrim guestbook. I totally agree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2008, 12:00:26 AM
With regard to point 1 it's pretty much human nature really and possibly a trait I fell into.

Just read the derry thread and you'll see what I mean.

Point 2 , in the case of this u21 match, isn't that applicable as it's a game we should be winning.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2008, 09:05:45 AM
ITG

Of course this is a game we should be winning. I think the questions have to be asked of S&W what have they done to make these players better individually since their days in minors when they were taking this derry team to the fair. The answer seems to be a resounding failure, some of the players have gone into reverse.

Lets look at this realisitically, we have a good number of the u21 squad on the senior team and in and around the set up, surely now that these players should be bigger stronger faster and should be better players for being in and around the senior set up. This is certainly not the case and it has to be questioned as to why this is happening and being allowed to happen?

I agree that the 'nay sayers' always will have something to gripe about and we should be looking to improve the overall structure of hurling coaching within the county, but that is no reason to hide behind this shocking result.

I think its time for a re think as to what are goals are as a county set up from minor up and time to plough in the much needed resources into the development set up.

Are we still working with one full time coach in belfast and still expecting to producing top quality players? This just does not happen.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2008, 09:53:39 AM
Name : NAG24 July 2008The work has been carried out for years with this specific group of players who are now at Under 21 Level, by a dedicated bunch of coaches through our development structures.

?????

somebody stop me please.....

No problem - we have stopped you and a bit earlier than you thought. You have chosen to make personal attacks on individuals and their competence and you have subjectively selected various results and used lies and innuendo promoted by "hate-merchants" of this county to promote your own clearly skewed and biased opinion of "all that is wrong with Antrim". You are not going to do that on this forum! You have done it and will continue to do it on other forums that allows this sort of tripe to go unchallenged. Go back to those forums and wallow in this quagmire of self-importance. However, something pro-active and positive is being done in this county by volunteers that doesn't involve personal attacks from anonymous demagogues like you, and nor should they be subjected to it either.

I have just noticed this on the county website someone has posted there using an earlier post on the board that i made. I have to say I didnt post this on the county website though after the crap that was replied too it with I might start. Maybe the admin guys saw it here and wanted a pop at it.

'I have subjectively selected various results and used lies, it dont think there is any need for lies where results have been concerned they speak for themselves.'

'I have yet to attack anyone personally, I have spoke the truth about what is going on in this county and that is the problem with these administrators they cannot see the wood for the trees. My opinion is neither biased or skewed, it is simply my opinion and alot of the people on this board share most of my ideas on a way forward for this county. This is exactly the kind of attitude I have come to expect from this administration in casement we know everything and if you dont agree with it then to hel with everyone else.

If they want to start and talk about lies, half truths and self importance bring it on because I have ammo that could last me from here to christmas.

(sorry guys but I had to bring this up after I saw it on the county website)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2008, 09:59:58 AM
If you try to look objectively at what they've achieved...

Positives:
That leinster trophy I can't mind the name of
Ulster
beating Wexford in the league

Negatives:
biggest low for me was the dublin game - it showed us where we were really at
we struggled to put away both down and derry in the league - down with 14 men
hammerings by galway and waterford and most other teams in the league
u21 against derry

The one thing which you need to take into account when assessing these boys is that we have been screwed by the hurling hierarchy and are playing a lot of games where we are just completely out of our depth. This has a knock on effect on confidence and motivation.

I do think that some young boys are being thrown in to too much too young. I would particularly point to Paul Shields who is an excellent hurler but with his slightness of build needs to be given time to physically develop. Tosh and McFall should have been kept for a while. Some could argue McManus got injured by too much too young too.

Division 2 will be a much better test next year. At the minute it's very hard to see any progression but it's also very hard to measure it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: offtheground on July 25, 2008, 01:54:03 PM
Who managed the '89 Antrim senior hurling side to the AI final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 25, 2008, 01:57:29 PM
Jim Nelson

There was a song...was it 'Jim Nelsons men' sung by Big Niall Pattersons band. Anyone have it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 25, 2008, 02:02:08 PM
"And we'll shake the hand of everyone we are Jim Nelsons men"
:)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: offtheground on July 25, 2008, 02:03:27 PM
Good man Two hands, had to settle a question from a table quiz last night. Did his Father manage the side in '54?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 25, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
Dont know OTG if he did..how did we do in 54? or do you mean 1943??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: offtheground on July 25, 2008, 02:59:14 PM
yeah meant '43 agin cork. Now that i think about it maybe the ages don't match up??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 25, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
Gilly MacElhatton was manager in '43  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 25, 2008, 03:16:25 PM
 :D HS

Checked Wikipedia..it gave the list of the 1943 final team but not the manager. It could have possibly have been two legendary former players who became joint managers who took us to the next level with a talented crop of wee boys known as the 'Golden Generation'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2008, 03:20:19 PM
watch out incase the administrator from the county website hears you saying that there might be trouble!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 25, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
Your right NAG

But they are too busy arguing over our nickname.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2008, 03:27:10 PM
did you ever hear such balls?

its no wonder that there is never a decent decision made between them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 25, 2008, 03:31:23 PM
what an asset to the board!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 25, 2008, 03:41:45 PM
I cant believe that the admins are stupid enough to argue with the stuff posted on the county website. Just makes them look stupid

Hi to the admins if you're reading
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: treborstemme on July 25, 2008, 09:46:10 PM
In relation to whether or not the work is being done in Derry.  In general the county is doing as well as they can, same old problems persist, dual players choosing football over hurling, not enough teams, geographical isolation and a horrible shower of B******s in the county board.  This particular crop of players actually deserve a bit more credit as I have seen them and played amoungst them and they are all excellent hurlers.  And three in a row wouldn't be out of the question as the majority of this team are again U21 next year ???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 25, 2008, 10:45:41 PM
The mods have really become a caricature of themselves, they have a stock answer and just edit certain parts of it as far as i can see. I take great delight in pulling their chain and have a fair idea what enrages them. It also makes it more enjoyable that i know the good doctor does a fair amount of the replies..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 25, 2008, 11:07:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2008, 10:58:29 PM
I think the admin replies are class. Sometimes I read them before I even read the posts.

You know when the reply is 5 times the length of the post you have hit the money shot, and you know when they talk about "other sites" they are talking about this one........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 26, 2008, 11:57:50 AM
Minder..they were in good form last night. Still arguing over how many players travelled to Waterford

anyway
Saturday 26th July 2008
Ulster Club Senior Hurling League Div 1 Playoffs
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Cushendall    -   -   Dunloy    Loughgiel   S-Final         7pm

Should be good match with championship starting next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 26, 2008, 05:37:31 PM
What news of Antrim Minors v Tipp - the only thing i heard was Tipp were up by 8 at half time - wasn't sounding too promising.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 26, 2008, 09:25:11 PM
Tipp 4-18 Antrim 0-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 27, 2008, 07:38:32 AM
That is one serious tanking  :o  I guess they were far too good for Ulster, but thats where is ends for another year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 11:18:36 AM
maybe they should enter the lenister leagues ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 28, 2008, 12:12:27 PM
Its a big tanking even by our standards.

Have to say that this is a pretty good minor set up in Tipp so they were always up against it from the start.

Any word on the local matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2008, 12:36:16 PM
I heard Dunloy beat Cushendall by 7 or so in the Ulster league with Cushendall missing very few and Dunloy missing quite a number.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on July 28, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
Did i not mention last week about the current County keeper getting a RED  card changed to two yellows last sunday in Cushendall, and the North Antrim chairman was there watching. I Don't think we have heard then last of this one or the glenariffe one either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 02:16:31 PM
you can sure that the county know about these sending off's, usually someone will text somebody before the games over to let them kow how the game went
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 28, 2008, 02:17:48 PM
Did skinner not get 2 yellows/ a straight red earlier in the season against us in the league?

If so, does that not mean suspension?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 28, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
Yeah skull he did and yes even if it was two yellows or what ever he is liable for a suspension having been sent ofr this season already.

colonel, Im told R.McDonnell got two yellows as well so there was no changing going on, although I did hear that the ballycastle incident was a straight red!

What did you make of your game skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 28, 2008, 03:18:32 PM
That'll be Skinner & Ding missing for the st Galls game, loughgiel might find it tricky enough this weekend.

This bit of changing a red into 2 yellows is ridiculous if it is happening, sure the referees in this county have more integrity than that, i know pressure is put on if its a big name player so close to championship but come on..

Also thought Cushendalls corner back was very lucky to stay on the field against us, whacked Dick O'Kane when the ball was gone. you could have heard the thud in the Pound.  Only a yellow though

dunloy's goal was def lucky and was the reason we went onto win, just shows how dangerous Cushendall are,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 28, 2008, 03:26:18 PM
Saturday nights match was very stop start with alot of frees being given. Ref came in for alot of stick. Mick Monty should have been given a red card....Although Dick is no angel.  Both teams will be happy enough i'd say with players missing & alot of things to work on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 28, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
how many were both teams missing of what would be regarded as their starting line ups?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 28, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
Cushendall missing maybe 2/3 depending on selections & Dunloy probably missing 4 at least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 28, 2008, 04:27:20 PM
our game against Loughgiel may be another date due to the Tommy Murphy Cup, we have Andy McClean on that team, were bad enough as it is, but sure we'll give it a lash. we'd two out at training on Saturday. so we'll play well till halftime then not bother to come out in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 28, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
According to antrim website it's due to be played on Saturday. Would St Galls Play on Sunday & move C'dall Glenariffe to Saturday evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 28, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
If the game can't be moved to the Sunday then it should be played on Saturday.

Milltown - along with others here you have complained re fixtures. This weekend has been set for months to start the championship. Andy can choose.

Apologies if that appears blunt but am pretty disillusioned with where we are as a county on the national scene and internally. We need some form of consistency in this county. How can men plan their year round fixtures and then be told they move?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 29, 2008, 10:20:34 AM
No fixtures in Irish News for Antrim this week and can't access the fixtures bit of the Antrim website.

Could someone post them here please? Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 28, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
If the game can't be moved to the Sunday then it should be played on Saturday.

Milltown - along with others here you have complained re fixtures. This weekend has been set for months to start the championship. Andy can choose.

Apologies if that appears blunt but am pretty disillusioned with where we are as a county on the national scene and internally. We need some form of consistency in this county. How can men plan their year round fixtures and then be told they move?

:o
Are you wise Glensman?  I can only assume you are affiliated to a club which hasn't had a county player in your recent memory. Do you even have a club?

Clubs need some preparation time for the championship. Hardly fair the county exercising the 13 day rule for themselves and then going out and demanding that a County Player play two championship games within 24 hours. Catch yourself on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 29, 2008, 12:01:41 PM
So what do you suggest Skull?

Loughgeil/StGalls game gets moved to the following week or the midweek. Will St Galls football game (I assume they have one) be moved to the week after, the next round of the championship be moved to the week after.

Its a vicious circle and you are the biggest voice on here about sorting out Antrim club fixtures - club fixtures are not just about county players. He could play saturday in the Tommy Murphy and then Sunday evening in the hurling if it was changed.
Maybe stating that Andy can choose was harsh but my main point remains the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 29, 2008, 12:58:49 PM
I believe you are both arguing different angles of the same point.

Skull is an advocate of getting back to the clubs and getting fixtures up and running consistently but he is also wary of the bigger clubs being punished for having successful talented players.

Glensman you are wanting the fixtures to go ahead regardless but this produces the situation where the better players are being punished for being just that bit better.

IMO there is a happy medium to be struck, there is no way that a fixture as long in the diary as this one should be affected by one player on team, I dont see a problem with the game being moved to by one day to accomodate as long as both clubs were in agreement.

Any serious predictions for the games are there any upsets on the cards or is it the status quo as per usual?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 29, 2008, 01:10:09 PM
My humble predictions in red....

Antrim SHC 1/4 Finals

St. Johns v Rossa - Casement Park - 01/08/2008 - 19:00 - McAuley Liam
Loughgiel v St. Galls - Dunloy - 02/08/2008 - 19:00 - Matthews Ray
Glenariff v Cushendall  - Ballycastle - 03/08/2008 - 15:00 - Elliott Owen
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Loughguile - 03/08/2008 - 18:30 - Duffy Garrett

Antrim IHC - 2008

Sarsfields v Carey Faughs  - Casement Park - 02/08/2008 - 17:30 - Wells Terence
Gaeil Chluana v Armoy - Dunloy - 02/08/2008 - 17:30 - McHenry John
Lamh Dhearg v Gort Na Mona  - Casement Park - 02/08/2008 - 19:00 - McIntyre Tommy 

Antrim JHC - 2008

Mc Dermotts v Cloughmills - Corrigan Park - 01/08/2008 - 19:30 - Robinson Gerard
Ardoyne v Creggan Gaels - St. Endas - 01/08/2008 - 19:30 - Reid James 
Davitts v St. Agnes - St. Teresas - 01/08/2008 - 19:30 - Graham Harry 
St. Brigids v Larne - St. Brigids - 01/08/2008 - 19:30 - Toland, Brendan
 
St. Endas v Rasharkin - Sarsfields - 01/08/2008 - 19:30 - Prenter Sean (Qtr Final )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 02:12:10 PM
Antrim CCC got the master fixture list from croke park months ago. I can only assume that they have arranged club championship dates knowing that there would be a chance that county commitments might jeopardize those dates. Lots of counties do the same. I don't like it myself. Too many counties waiting on their county teams finishing off, but proper respect must be given to the clubs and that means giving them time together to prepare for the most important match of the year for them. The fact that there is only one player concerned may warrant the game being played sooner, but Andy McLean must be given time to recover properly for the game surely

To get better fixtures we need less County training as well as matches county matches and an end to that 13 day rule. We certainly did not benefit from having it in place this year.

"club fixtures are not just about county players".....  ??? it's championship ffs

Do you belong to a club Glens? I seriously doubt it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 29, 2008, 02:45:14 PM
I once played for the same team as you Skull.

St Galls v Loughgeil and St John's v Rossa moved to a double header at Casement on Sunday evening. 5pm and 7pm.
Sorted.
Big Andy and wee Closey can get in an ice bath straight away and get flown up by helicopter from Croke (landing during the Down game in the middle of the pitch).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 29, 2008, 03:10:45 PM
Latest version:

Antrim SHC - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Loughgiel  St. Galls  Glenravel 02/08/2008 19:00 Matthews Ray Qtr Final 
St. Johns  Rossa  Casement Park 03/08/2008 14:00 McAuley Liam Qtr Final 
Glenariff  Cushendall  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 15:00 Elliott Owen Qtr Final 
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Loughguile 03/08/2008 18:30 Duffy Garrett Qtr Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 03:15:59 PM
 :o Even more confused now Glens as to why you hold that opinion

Preparing for championship without county players is far from ideal. The miserly 1 week just isn't enough for a team with ambition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 29, 2008, 03:21:34 PM
The game wont be moved........this is the date we have been training for all year. Lets be honest the Tommy Murphy cup does not merit moving a club championship match. If county was going to move it, wud have done so 2 weeks ago.

Wer raring to go!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 29, 2008, 03:29:16 PM
This is where it starts to get interesting anything that has gone before this season is now pretty much irrelevant and its all down to on the day.

Dont think there is anyone out there overly cofident of what way this one will go, should make for an interesting few weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 03:33:13 PM
And what if it was the Christy Ring Shamrock? Suits you sir, not that it will make much difference anyhow I suspect unless milltown is telling porkies

yeah Antrim should have moved the games 2 weeks ago (i.e before they played the quarter final) LOL. What next? Fix the hurling championship date in late Sept after the AI is read up?  :)

You would think that these situations have not happened before. I would expect the game to be moved if representations are made by the club's concerned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 29, 2008, 03:37:01 PM
But will that throw loughgiel's carefully timed tilt at the championship off line!

Will they have enough recovery time for the semi-final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 29, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
wouldnt happen lads in any other county......but sure you dunloy folk love the big ball anyway, so im sure it will be moved lol.

As long as its played this weekend......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 03:51:27 PM
Been on the planet long shamrock? It has happened for years in tjhis county

And as much as we like the odd kick around, we know what the main game is  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 29, 2008, 03:51:51 PM
I hope its not moved as its part of Dunloy's planned festival this weekend and should attract a good crowd weather permitting.  

though i do agree with Skull, if one of our players was forced to play a county game 24 hours or less before championship i would be less than happy.  particulalry for St Galls who have pushed loughgiel (& ourselves) all the way in recent championships, they deserve to be at full tilt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 29, 2008, 04:49:22 PM
Max looks like both the SHC & IHC games that were fixed for Dunloy have been moved. SHC - Glenravel, IHC - Bmena
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 29, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
Looks like game moved already Max Power...

There was always going to be one who abused the Tommy Murphy cup. I have strayed from doing that but there is some merit in Shamrock's madness...

With the new road Andy will be back up by 4pm, a bit of stretching and he'll be grand.

I reiterate my earlier suggestion - St Galls v Loughgeil and St John's v Rossa moved to a double header at Casement on Sunday.

Bigger crowd at Casement, alot of Belfast interest, the bodies in the mix of it all.
Perfect.

Skull - there are 2 players involved who might have a clash. Andy McLean and Paul Close. Not counting Gavin Bell.
One clash on the day has been averted. One is later in the day (should be moved to Sunday).
2 players hold up a whole weekend of hurling? I think not.
As a wise man once said, catch yourself on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2008, 05:07:38 PM
I know that man and I know he wasn't talking to himself when he said it.  ;)

Said it before. If it was the league then I'd be 4 square behind you. Championship (especially knock out) is different. Crazy to think otherwise.

Both Rossa & St Galls will need to be at their best to put it up to their opposition. Unfair to those clubs to be handicapped by the county board all as a result of representing their county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 30, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
Latest version (part 251)

Antrim SHC - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Loughgiel  St. Galls  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 13:15 Matthews Ray Qtr Final 
St. Johns  Rossa  Casement Park 03/08/2008 14:00 McAuley Liam Qtr Final 
Glenariff  Cushendall  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 15:00 Elliott Owen Qtr Final 
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Loughguile 03/08/2008 18:30 Duffy Garrett Qtr Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 30, 2008, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on July 30, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
Latest version (part 251) :D :D :D

Antrim SHC - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Loughgiel  St. Galls  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 13:15 Matthews Ray Qtr Final 
St. Johns  Rossa  Casement Park 03/08/2008 14:00 McAuley Liam Qtr Final 
Glenariff  Cushendall  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 15:00 Elliott Owen Qtr Final 
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Loughguile 03/08/2008 18:30 Duffy Garrett Qtr Final



Fair enough outcome, all things considered lads. So then what about the games

1. Us v St Galls - like all previous posters have said, st galls will give us our fill of it. Always do and the big pitch in ballycastle will suit their style. We had a few bad results, ballycastle in particular where we were brutally bad. But last 2 weeks has seen a good improvement and with a few of our injuries clearing up - will have a good side out, though we will still be without ding and prob neilly. Will McGourtys all be playing or is cj still in states. - hopefully win with 5 or 6 to spare

2. Dall v Glenariife - local rivalry etc - Dall seem to have turned a corner. Glenariffe will put it up to them but dall will pull away in last 12/13 minutes to win by 9pts

3. St Johns v Rossa - again locally rivalry. St johns by virtue of playing div 1 all year will pip rossa- who lets be honest are more of a championship side. St Johns to win by 5 with a late goal from McFall making them safe

4. Dunloy v BCastle - to me the best team in county at presentr will brush the town away. Although it wont be like their recent league game - dunloy to win by 14pts, pulling up and playing 5 subs.

Any other opinions???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
FFS
Dunloy centenary festival begins this weekend and the CCC can't even fix a game in the village...WTF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 30, 2008, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
FFS
Dunloy centenary festival begins this weekend and the CCC can't even fix a game in the village...WTF

Aye dissapointed with that myself, the organisers put alot of effort into it and a game would have helped. 

why ballycastle for the St Galls game? just means st galls have further to travel,

As for the games, wouldn't comment on Dunloys game except to say the recent league match will have absolutely no reflection on what pans out, no two games are ever the same.

Expect much the same outcomes as Shamrock, treble for the weekend

Cushendall (-10)
Loughgiel (-12)
St Johns (-3)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 30, 2008, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 30, 2008, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
FFS
Dunloy centenary festival begins this weekend and the CCC can't even fix a game in the village...WTF

Aye dissapointed with that myself, the organisers put alot of effort into it and a game would have helped.  

why ballycastle for the St Galls game? just means st galls have further to travel,

As for the games, wouldn't comment on Dunloys game except to say the recent league match will have absolutely no reflection on what pans out, no two games are ever the same.

Expect much the same outcomes as Shamrock, treble for the weekend

Cushendall (-10)
Loughgiel (-12)
St Johns (-3)


Can i assume that your committee decided that they couldnt stage the 2 proposed matches for sat evening because of your centenary celebrations. Im sure your pitches are being used for some of the activities.

Who manages/trains st galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on July 30, 2008, 02:30:38 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on July 30, 2008, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 30, 2008, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
FFS
Dunloy centenary festival begins this weekend and the CCC can't even fix a game in the village...WTF

Aye dissapointed with that myself, the organisers put alot of effort into it and a game would have helped.  

why ballycastle for the St Galls game? just means st galls have further to travel,

As for the games, wouldn't comment on Dunloys game except to say the recent league match will have absolutely no reflection on what pans out, no two games are ever the same.

Expect much the same outcomes as Shamrock, treble for the weekend

Cushendall (-10)
Loughgiel (-12)
St Johns (-3)


Can i assume that your committee decided that they couldnt stage the 2 proposed matches for sat evening because of your centenary celebrations. Im sure your pitches are being used for some of the activities.

Who manages/trains st galls

Milltown Row owns that particular franchise lock, stock & barrel.    :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 30, 2008, 02:38:31 PM
But whats his name??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2008, 03:26:44 PM
i own nothing, though a foot in each team will be all i'll say 8), seems like a fair enough fixture date, what shape McClean will be in after the Wicklow game?(depending on wining it) Andy McClean keeps himself fitter than most players so he should be up for the battle.

the McGourty's will be playing Kevin the Ex dual county player and Keiran Cj still in the states.

the Manager is Michael Gribbon (ex player) and Pat Sheehan

we'll stick with Loughgiel for a while, if it's close with ten to go it would get interesting, but sur you only get it out what ya put in.


themanwhowasntthere, what game will you be Watching? would it be at the Bear Pit?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 30, 2008, 04:17:22 PM
I hope you tongue was firmly in your cheek when you were using the ex-dual star line milltown!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 30, 2008, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
FFS
Dunloy centenary festival begins this weekend and the CCC can't even fix a game in the village...WTF

The Armoy v  Clooney match was originally fixed for Dunloy, why was it moved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 30, 2008, 09:51:35 PM
The only SHC match i can see being competitive for 60 mins is Rossa and St Johns and St Johns might edge it. St Galls to push Loughgiel for 35/40 mins with Loughgiel coming through ok and the same goes for Glenariffe with C'dall coming through unscathed.

Unfortunately i'm not even sure that Ballycastle will keep it competitive to half time against Dunloy.

Knockout or qualifying groups, it don't matter; C'dall, Dunloy, and L'giel will make the semis and this years token 4th place in the semis will go to the Johnnies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on July 31, 2008, 01:44:58 PM
Yeah thats how I would see it and I would have to say that this is the problem with the county at the moment there is not enough competition, yes the big clubs are going to be hard to beat but what are the other clubs doing about it?

Ballycaslt won the u21 championship last year and are barely struggling to get a senior team out, what is going on there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2008, 04:16:20 PM
well after last night training session (the highest attended since last years pre championship training) i can safely say we will push Loughgiel for 45-50 mins. the wining margins the last few years between us have been around the 4\5 points mark. if we are still in with a shout at the 50 mark then i'll be happy.

St Johns will blow Rossa out of the water unless it's a real wet day and the scores will be harder to come by. Dunloy will win but not by the margin everyone is talking about, Cushendall will win handy.... in the end

should be good talking points come monday ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2008, 05:29:34 PM
Recommendation to all keepers this weekend

Tie a six yard leash round the post and hook up to it everytime you set uo to take your puck outs.  :)

Expect 3 points from 65's as a result of this new trendy infraction over the weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 01, 2008, 09:45:26 AM
Aye there is always one of these obscure rules shown up in a big game and then it affects the rest of the matches around the country the following weekend.

Cant see any upsets at the weekend to be honest, I would have thought that if st galls were going to make the break through with this team it would have happened a couple of years ago now and really dont think they are up to it now.

Glenarriffe were heading in the right direction a couple of years ago but they have fallen away dramatically in the last season or so.

Ballycastle cant convert good underage talent into senior talent and until they do so they are going no where.

Rossa always a traditional power could really struggle to get back to the big time now, as a club I am fearful for them unless they start to put in some serious graft there could be a death knell chiming for them as a club.

The usual suspects to progress!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 01, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 31, 2008, 05:29:34 PM
Expect 3 points from 65's as a result of this new trendy infraction over the weekend

Im confused what do you mean skull ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
well, the referee will award 65's for the puck being taken from outside the small box.

will the umpires give secret signs to the referee? not sure if thats offical practice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
well, the referee will award 65's for the puck being taken from outside the small box.

will the umpires give secret signs to the referee? not sure if thats offical practice

Sounds like the Masonic Lodge has taken over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 01, 2008, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: youngfella on August 01, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 31, 2008, 05:29:34 PM
Expect 3 points from 65's as a result of this new trendy infraction over the weekend

Im confused what do you mean skull ?

Did you not see the Munster U21 final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 12:55:29 PM
4.15 To take the puck-out from outside the small
rectangle.
PENALTY - 65m free opposite where the
foul occurred.

It's certainly not new, may be tendy at the minute tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 01:11:14 PM
(http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00194/angry_194322t.jpg)


Will she be on duty at Casement for Rossa v St John's ??

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
well, the referee will award 65's for the puck being taken from outside the small box.

will the umpires give secret signs to the referee? not sure if thats offical practice

Sounds like the Masonic Lodge has taken over.

no i'd say more like the Knights of C
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
she should have been there for the football game we played against them last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 01, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
she should have been there for the football game we played against them last week

Milltown - there's much evidence that you're going to too many football matches lately. I thought you were a true hurling man too ! Repent, before it's too late & return to your roots.........nothing good can ever come of going to watch football, let alone play the game.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 01, 2008, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 01, 2008, 12:55:29 PM
4.15 To take the puck-out from outside the small
rectangle.
PENALTY - 65m free opposite where the
foul occurred.

It's certainly not new, may be tendy at the minute tho.

But it will be a new trend  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 02, 2008, 08:35:30 AM
Mc Dermotts  2-5 4-10 Cloughmills  Corrigan Park Preliminary 
Ardoyne  4-7 3-7 Creggan Gaels  St. Endas Preliminary 
Davitts  0-11 2-8 St. Agnes  St. Teresas Preliminary 
St. Endas  1-6 1-14 Rasharkin  Sarsfields Qtr Final
Junior championship results from Friday night. My money would be on Cloughmills to win this but after loosing by a point in last years final Rasharkin will go close as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 02, 2008, 02:14:59 PM
Thanks for clearing that up! Antrim beat wicklow to win the cup. Will done to the lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 02, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
IHC
Armoy v Clooney Gaels abandoned after 10 mins due to flooding on B'mena pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 03, 2008, 11:46:17 AM
Also in IHC wins for Gort na Mona over Lamh Dhearg, and Sarsfields over Carey (surprised at that one)

Just noticed who the referee is for the Loughgiel v St. Galls game - lets just say i won't be surprised if there is an all out riot at some point!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
Can anyone post the results of the championship games when they are done please? And if possible a report too pretty please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 03, 2008, 03:33:51 PM
From the county website
Senior
St. Johns  2-8 2-10 Rossa  Casement Park Qtr Final  
Loughgiel  4-15 1-13 St. Galls  Ballycastle Qtr Final
Intermediate
Lamh Dhearg  1-13 1-16 Gort Na Mona  Casement Park Preliminary  
Gaeil Chluana  - - Armoy  Ballymena Not Played  
Sarsfields  1-14 1-12 Carey Faughs  Casement Park Preliminary

As said earlier Clooney V Armoy was abandoned due to waterlogged pitch after 10 minutes

Rossa sprung a minor shock on St Johns Loughgiel through as expected. Only match I was at was the Armoy one so cannot comment further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
Dunloy game ? What happened with st galls, I hoped it was going to be a bit tighter than that.  THe rossa game sounds like a smasher, Any dorty stuff ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 03, 2008, 03:56:53 PM
Dunloy match is at 6.30 in loughgiel Cdall v  Glenariffe currently playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 03:59:48 PM
Thats great, can you keep us updated pretty please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on August 03, 2008, 04:02:40 PM
Cushendall down by 6pts at HT.  
They have been really poor this year and though I had expected them to be performing better at this stage, even without the likes of McManus.
Still expect them to claw back in second half however - looks like the final this year will be in the semi final...  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 04:49:59 PM
any news monkey ?  no finger nails left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on August 03, 2008, 04:54:27 PM
Yes, the Dall won. Havent got score though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 04:56:39 PM
great come back. well done the dall !! the ariffe must be gutted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 04:57:25 PM
will you be able to post the score from the ballycastle dunloy game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on August 03, 2008, 05:08:03 PM
I could probably post the score now if you like  ;)
Will be going to the game but will try and post score at halftime/fulltime if my mobile gets a reception.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 03, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
Glenariff  1-8 2-16 Cushendall 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 07:01:58 PM
 :D Cant wair to read the boys match reports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
Any one got the margin in the dunloy game ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 03, 2008, 08:37:26 PM
From the county website -:

Dunloy    3-22   2-8   Ballycastle    Loughguile   Qtr Final   
Glenariff    1-8   2-16   Cushendall    Ballycastle   Qtr Final   
St. Johns    2-8   2-10   Rossa    Casement Park   Qtr Final   
Loughgiel    4-15   1-13   St. Galls    Ballycastle   Qtr Final

When are the semi-finals being played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 03, 2008, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: glens73 on August 03, 2008, 08:37:26 PM
From the county website -:

Dunloy    3-22   2-8   Ballycastle    Loughguile   Qtr Final   
Glenariff    1-8   2-16   Cushendall    Ballycastle   Qtr Final   
St. Johns    2-8   2-10   Rossa    Casement Park   Qtr Final   
Loughgiel    4-15   1-13   St. Galls    Ballycastle   Qtr Final

When are the semi-finals being played?

A day for the favorties them. Ballycastle have there work cut out for them after two very heavy defeats to dunloy. The milltown men arent as close as we all hoped to the shamrocks. Monkey says the cushendall came back from six points under at half time. The city slickers had the best scrap of the day.

Not a day to be a ballycastle man, how can it go so wrong after winning an under 21 championship just last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 04, 2008, 08:40:40 AM
it must have been the referees first match, think he was a ballymeana man. poor for both but that was not the reason for us getting beat. 4 goals in the first half by Loughgiel killed the game off, though we out scored Loughgiel by 1-7 to 0-7 in the second half meant nothing.

for me Loughgiel played a different type of game to the last few years. Watson played in the corner and and the young lad Shay in the other. a two man fullforward line with a crowded midfield. tactics were right and they exposed our weaknesses. all the play for a change did not go through Watson and a better spread of scores was the result.

though we tried it was always a up hill struggle, that was even before the whistle, Karl Stewart was outstanding for us and terry Austin, normaly a fullback was moved to fullforward and scored 4 points played well. we got out of it what we put into it......nothing

strangely for us and some may chuckle, i thought when Kevin McGourty came on for us in the second half we gave Loughgiel a better game.

anyway good luck to the teams left in the competition strange result up at Casement, as hardstation was quick to remind me of my quote, fair play to Rossa life in the auld dogs yet. anychance of a report Hardstation? believe Jonty was acting up on the sideline and Whack for the diidle was song by Rossa ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2008, 09:23:55 AM
Didn't get to 3 of the games yesterday so hopefully match reports will be posted by others

Our game against Ballycastle went to script. It was I game I was worried about as the town seemed to have responded to the hammering they got when they played us in the league, but they looked like a team who had no understanding of championship hurling last night. I counted 6 players on their team who realy looked as if they were trying. The rest were way off the pace and bar a dodgy 10 minute spell where we took the foot off the pedal, we had it very easy against them. Dunloy did what they had to do with a good brand of hurling and certainly, after watching a weekend of football on RTE, even a one sided match like this was still entertaining to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 04, 2008, 09:31:43 AM
That was some result for Rossa. St John's were hurling well in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2008, 09:44:49 AM
Did the league results not show that the Johnnies form had dipped coming into the championship

Draw against the town and then beat easily by portaferry?

Thought that Jonty would have had them peaking at the right time, but it appears that come July and August have the Johnnies go into holiday mode.

Also 2-10 to 2-8 is not great nicking in a hurling match. Exciting as it may have been, it doesn't appear to have had the quality needed to scare the dall in the semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 04, 2008, 12:00:14 PM
Wasnt really suprised that Rossa beat the johnies. The reason why St Johns were doing well in the league early on was cos they were so much fitter than everyone else cos they were training like mad. On top of those 2 league results Skull mentioned they also only beat Glenariffe by a point in that contraversial match up at Corrigan.

Rossa are a championship team & wouldnt have been concerned by league form. They have some very good  hurlers & some very good minors coming through as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2008, 12:18:56 PM
Rossa's U21's gave us a real game as well whereas the Johnnies U21's (who won minor 3 years ago) didn't put a team into it. Antrim really needs the Belfast clubs to get back up there competing for honours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 04, 2008, 01:34:06 PM
Sounds like the Oisins collapsed in the second half against the Dall. Any match reports?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 04, 2008, 01:36:09 PM
From Cushendall website. www.ruairiog.com

Championship Struggle!

    *

04 August 2008
Ruairí Óg eventually ran out winners in this local championship derby match though it looked like near-neighbours Glenariffe were going to cause a major shock when they led by 1.06 to five points at half time.  However a number of astute changes by management at half time and the introduction of Shane Mc Naughton, Brian Mc Naughton & Neil Mc Manus certainly helped turn things around.  Donal & Shane Mc Naughton scored the two goals with Neil Mc Manus having a hand in both majors. Special mention must go to Ruairí Óg's man of the match Paddy Magill who scored fourteen points in total. The final score read: Ruairí Óg 2.16 V Glenariffe 1.08.  Full report and photos to follow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on August 04, 2008, 02:04:16 PM
".... cause a major shock"  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 04, 2008, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on July 30, 2008, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on July 30, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
Latest version (part 251) :D :D :D

Antrim SHC - 2008
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Loughgiel  St. Galls  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 13:15 Matthews Ray Qtr Final 
St. Johns  Rossa  Casement Park 03/08/2008 14:00 McAuley Liam Qtr Final 
Glenariff  Cushendall  Ballycastle 03/08/2008 15:00 Elliott Owen Qtr Final 
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Loughguile 03/08/2008 18:30 Duffy Garrett Qtr Final



Fair enough outcome, all things considered lads. So then what about the games

1. Us v St Galls - like all previous posters have said, st galls will give us our fill of it. Always do and the big pitch in ballycastle will suit their style. We had a few bad results, ballycastle in particular where we were brutally bad. But last 2 weeks has seen a good improvement and with a few of our injuries clearing up - will have a good side out, though we will still be without ding and prob neilly. Will McGourtys all be playing or is cj still in states. - hopefully win with 5 or 6 to spare

2. Dall v Glenariife - local rivalry etc - Dall seem to have turned a corner. Glenariffe will put it up to them but dall will pull away in last 12/13 minutes to win by 9pts

3. St Johns v Rossa - again locally rivalry. St johns by virtue of playing div 1 all year will pip rossa- who lets be honest are more of a championship side. St Johns to win by 5 with a late goal from McFall making them safe

4. Dunloy v BCastle - to me the best team in county at presentr will brush the town away. Although it wont be like their recent league game - dunloy to win by 14pts, pulling up and playing 5 subs.

Any other opinions???

My predicions wernt far off the mark........

Dall pulling away in last 15mins with glenariffe putting up a fight as they usually do. Mcmanus made a massive difference for them.

Dunloy as predicted won easy - 18pts - my prediction of 15 not bad, and they used 5 subs!!

Got the st johns game right except the late goal went to Rossa!!

Our game went well, played good stuff in first twinty and game was over by half time. MillTown we scored o-9 in second half not 0-7!! Irrelevant really

5 weeks to semi

Rossa v Cushendall
Dunloy v Loughgiel

alot of work required to get team fitter, tactics, stick work etc.


Should make things interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 04, 2008, 04:07:38 PM
Shamrock at halftime the score board read, 4-5 to 0-6 then when we came out it was 4-6 to 0-6???? anyway the final score was 4-14 to 1-13 but it was different in the Antrim website. i'll have to look into that >:(

not having Watson as your main player works better for ya's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on August 04, 2008, 09:21:12 PM
I hear semis pulled forward to the 17th with the minor championship also being delayed from wed night to the 18th.  Another good decision by or oh so brilliant county    ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on August 04, 2008, 10:30:01 PM
Quote from: MrT on August 04, 2008, 09:21:12 PM
I hear semis pulled forward to the 17th with the minor championship also being delayed from wed night to the 18th.  Another good decision by or oh so brilliant county    ???

Sounds a bit of a mad decision that, if its true.  With teams preparing all year for these big games to suddenly change the dates of the semis by 3 weeks doesnt make sense.
Is there any substance to this rumour?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 05, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
After seeing the games at the weekend then,
what are the strenghts and weaknesses of the teams left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 06, 2008, 06:59:53 AM
Milltown Row, i heard that you have now taken up the Referees whistle, I hear that you you should stick to playing, some boys where very critical of your performance the other evening, i know there are two sides to every story would you care to comment. The man in the middle is never an easy job!!! Just looking for your side of the story/expierance of the new role? Do you plan to stick with it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 06, 2008, 08:07:09 AM
IHC Result from last night.....

Clooney Gaels 0-16 v 1-6 Armoy

Leaves the 1/4-Finals

A Glenravel v St. Pauls
B Gort na Mona v Tir na nOg
C Sarsfields v Shane O'Neill's
D Clooney Gaels v Cushendun

Semi Finals

C v B
A v D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 06, 2008, 11:00:55 AM
St Pauls
Gort Na Mona
Shane O'Neills
Cloney

That would be my prediction.
I would go for a Cloney win overall if they are on top form. Some achievment for them if they won Junior and Intermediate within 3 years.

On one level it actually highlights:
(1) the gaps between the senior clubs (and 4/5 of them at that) and the rest; and
(2) how with a bit of organisation, structures and hard work a club can go from junior hurling (and not setting the world on fire down there) to being at the top of the next rung of the ladder.

Should Cloney continue I see them as threatening the Ballycastles, St Johns, Rossas of this world and the Ards teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 06, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: davincicode on August 06, 2008, 06:59:53 AM
Milltown Row, i heard that you have now taken up the Referees whistle, I hear that you you should stick to playing, some boys where very critical of your performance the other evening, i know there are two sides to every story would you care to comment. The man in the middle is never an easy job!!! Just looking for your side of the story/expierance of the new role? Do you plan to stick with it?

think you have me confused with someone else, though hearing about that match, the referee could have sent off a lot more. some wild pulling off the ball, and apparently the crying over decisions from grown men was appalling. knowing the referee i'm sure he was smilling all the way through it.

Referees are meant to see everything and they are the worst if the don't see it the players way, as for referees being biais, it means nothing to the referee in charge who wins loses or draws. without referees games would not be played, end off.

as for me i'm doing juvenile games and having a ball, only done about 7 or 8 games,  took it on as i was asked to try it out, gives you a good perspective on the game. think its made me worse as a player as i'm constantly calling the fouls during a game, and questioning the referee, but i talk now instead of the shouting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 06, 2008, 12:52:10 PM
100% M.R, i think when i pack it all in i might give it a go, not easy though. Getting to games in Dublin with traffic is horendous to say the least, tough call would like to still be involved in the game in some shape or form.

How do find the interpretation of some of the rules ie advantage to accrue? not an easy one at all, its all about the the speed of decision.

Anyway will watch the Blues at the weekend, should,nt be a problem for you.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 05, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
After seeing the games at the weekend then,
what are the strenghts and weaknesses of the teams left?

We all know the winner will come from dunloy, cushendall and loughgiel. at this stage i think everyone will agree Dunloy are hot favourites, but 5 weeks is a long time in this game, and im sure there will be a few twists between now and then, injuries, suspensions, loss of form etc.

I would love to see us make the breakthrough......were gettin there......but how close only time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2008, 01:07:04 PM
The problem is Loughgiel have been "getting there" for years now but have never quite reached their destination.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 01:09:52 PM
Fair point tony.......but would you not agree it has to happen sooner rather than later.

Tell me this then....why have we not won a championship in 20 years?? Honestly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2008, 01:20:22 PM
That's an easy one. Dunloy, Cushendall and on rare occassions Rossa have been better than you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 01:22:17 PM
You reckon.......thats what the average supporter wud say...i had you down as an expert Tony....how i was wrong ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on August 06, 2008, 01:44:49 PM
 :D what 'reason' would an advanced supporter give?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 02:00:08 PM
thats wot im asking you folk.....im sure my dunloy friends wud giv more reasoned debate on the issue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 06, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
When the chips are down Loughgiel have not managed to beat a good team. Loughgiel in recent years have managed to be in front from the start. They have a great start to most games but manage to lose concentration and allow teams a foot hold in the game. Also another fault is an over reliance of one player, Watson. Quality hurler that he is I think that too much play was going through him in the last few years. A better spread of the scores is needed.

Against us Watson was in the corner and contributed more to the game with his scores and set up play, bring other players into the game. If Loughgiel can find the mental strength that Dunloy have to get over the line, then they might win it this year or the next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2008, 02:11:17 PM
IMO you are just that wee bit short on depth and leaders.

Watson, Campbell and about maybe four/five others are quality senior players. However , IMO, there are a lot of other players on your team who could easily be interchanged for boys you have who play reserve and that is why your reserves do so well and your seniors don't do as well. You have more hurlers of a certain standard than anyone else - i.e. good enough to make a big impact in reserve and just about cut it at senior level - but less players that cut above the rest than anyone else.

Leaders is also an issue though. Leaders is why you lost two finals to Cushendall IMO. I didn't think you were good enough against Dunloy and you just collapsed against Rossa.

However I think some of your minors will bring that level up although not sure I'd agree with the sooner rather than later comment. Would tend to go vice versa on that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 02:17:53 PM
Fair points lad.......now were getting into some better debate on the issue. I cant argue wit most of your points. So Tommy and Milltown - who will win the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 06, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
i've said this in the past and and though i'm not keen on your supporters (as I feel for starters, they put a lot of pressure on ya's to win. And the hackling from them is unreal) but i'd like to see Loughgiel win it, this may not go down well with Dunloy and others but to add a bit of change to the championship.

you may be saying, thats rich coming from a galls man considering his own team has been wining championships for fun at all levels in football. and long may it continue i might add. but when you own club is not involved your looking to new teams wining every other year.

as to who's going to win it? i've a feeling Loughgiel may beat Dunloy by a point and possibly slip up again in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2008, 02:43:54 PM
I think the same as Milltown. I've a feeling you'll sneak past Dunloy and could maybe slip up in the final.

I'd like to see you boys win it. Some of your supporters can be hard to listen to and put too much pressure on your players ,I feel, and things like this hurt you guys.

I think it's much more favourable for you to be playing Dunloy in the semi though as I think you'd not beat them in a final with their experience and you boys being nervous.

It's the best chance you'll have in a while, I think, but not sure you can do it. Hope so though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2008, 02:45:58 PM
Shamrock

What is you're own personal opinion on the subject you started. Judging by your reply to Tony, you do. Any chance of sharing it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 03:07:44 PM
Dont feel i should be airing my opinions on our club on here. They have failed for a number of reasons. However i personally feel that their time is coming.....we have a team now with alot of experience - johhny, winker, barney, dd, ding, martin all 26+, then a group of lads like skinner, joey, eddie, dim dim who are just around 22, with a few young lads like young dobbin, tony, duck etc giving us a good blend. I also feel our management have learned from last year, and the set-up is as good as we have had. All things added together plus having to play a big team like dunloy in semi - means if we get past them, we will be ready for a final. I personally feel the last 3 years we havent been ready as the doubts are there about whether we can beat a big team . The feis win, this year was a good life believe or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
The Dall are having a bad year by their own high standards and can never be written off. However if you put away Dunloy in the semis, I think this is the Shamrock's best chance in years. The other teams that have won the Championship have had a good blend of youth and experience and a mental toughness to grind out a win in a tight game. Louoghiel have been suspect on the mental toughness front.

The problem with Loughgiel supporters (as already said they are hard to listen to) is they think every year is going to be the breakthrough and demand too much of the players and management. I think this transfers through to some players and they lose the head when things are going tits up. I've said before that Loughgiel supporters, and some players think they are rock hard and haven't learnt that a good, hard player on the pitch is better than a good, dirty player who has got the line
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Post by: Shamrock on August 06, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
i have to say i agree with you. Hooker came and napper came in as managers last year ane everyone thought they wud be putting dirt into them. But from what i hear, they just want them playing hard tough hurling, but on the ball. Thats where we need to learn from.
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Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
Well one man's hard hurling is another mans dirty hurling. I'm sure if you asked hooker what type of hurler he was, he would say he was a hard hurler. Others may disagree with his assessment, especially referees  :)
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Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
Obviously Groundie is tied to the sofa watchin the telly. If he got up to go to the 'puter he'd only trip on the tail between his legs  :D
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Post by: slow corner back on August 06, 2008, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 06, 2008, 11:00:55 AM
St Pauls
Gort Na Mona
Shane O'Neills
Cloney

That would be my prediction.
I would go for a Cloney win overall if they are on top form. Some achievment for them if they won Junior and Intermediate within 3 years.

On one level it actually highlights:
(1) the gaps between the senior clubs (and 4/5 of them at that) and the rest; and
(2) how with a bit of organisation, structures and hard work a club can go from junior hurling (and not setting the world on fire down there) to being at the top of the next rung of the ladder.

Should Cloney continue I see them as threatening the Ballycastles, St Johns, Rossas of this world and the Ards teams.

Clooney won well against us last night. Only for a fortuitous goal we got in the first half it would not have lasted as  long as it did as a contest. Clooney will be close enough to winning the IHC although I would make Gort Na Mona favourites. Clooneys finishing is still a little lax although they create space well and have a good gameplan.
As for the gap between teams in senior and intermediate please bear in mind that two weeks ago Armoy ran Rossa to a point in Belfast and were leading by 4 points with 5 minutes to go. Personally I believe that while Dunloy and Loughgiel are better than most teams in the county on a consistent basis championships are won on attitude and belief and this is where Cushendall and to a lesser extent Rossa score well. If more clubs went out really beieving they could win the senior championship then the competition would be a lot more open.
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Post by: youngfella on August 06, 2008, 11:51:50 PM
Great pictures mate,

The thing i never get about hurlers fighting, why do they throw of the helmet and get rid of the stick. Surely it'd best to step back and give the fella a good lick with stick. As for throwing of the helmet thats daft itd be best to kept your head protected.
I'm not a dirty fella so i dont understand the mentallity of this at all.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
QuoteSurely it'd best to step back and give the fella a good lick with stick.

You might find yourself in a wee bit of trouble for that!
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Post by: johnneycool on August 07, 2008, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
QuoteSurely it'd best to step back and give the fella a good lick with stick.

You might find yourself in a wee bit of trouble for that!

Not if you know a few bylaws, eh Tony!
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Post by: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2008, 12:52:48 PM
You referring to the hero in my avatar?  ;)

It certainly helps to be a county star with a big match coming up.
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Post by: johnneycool on August 07, 2008, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
30 seconds into the match.....

(http://www.belfastpix.com/cache/an/32/65/9c/f52df5898f01ada33bd58a51d4b4a5016e4196f5f5.jpg)


Great aul craic.

Is that the veteran Jim Close No11?

It certainly looks like his tanned legs
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Post by: youngfella on August 07, 2008, 01:08:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 07, 2008, 12:52:48 PM
You referring to the hero in my avatar?  ;)

It certainly helps to be a county star with a big match coming up.

face of antrim life. But if you throw a punch at a fella are you not off stright away, so you may as well go off for a good reason!

AS for throwing of the helmet this still wrecks my head as to why boys do it.
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Post by: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
Suppose the helmet throwing is the same as rolling up the sleeves (as the sleeves are normally rolled up, except if the player is wearing one of those skin tight undergarmets and then rolling up the sleeves would be tough).
Its a signal of intent.

You are clearly taking the p1ss(or I hope you are) when say about giving the fella a good lick with the stick.
Striking with the stick is one of the worst crimes in any sport...you have a stick to play with and should feel privilged to be doing so. A hurling stick should be treated with respect. if you're a fighter lay the stick down and go for it.

I also hate jabbing with the stick. That should be a yellow card offence straight away. If you can't stick the shoulder in a man without jabbing the stick you should burn your hurl.
Interested to see what others think of jabbing (am I using the correct term).

Thee most stupid thing I have seen is two men with a helmet squaring up head to head and then one of them headbutting...what is the sense in that?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2008, 03:26:54 PM
Jabbing as you put it is part and parcel of the game, sizing ones oposite number up.

being slightly under six foot and at 11 stone ;) it's difficult to shoulder your marker. i myself try and stay away from it altogether. i dont mind hard hurling, getting slapped and the rest is part of the game. what i dont like is the aggresive mouthing before a tackle has even come in. usualy from the younger ones wound up by the manager
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Post by: davincicode on August 07, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
M Row i think you are fibbing to me, i have since had it confirmed it was you who ref the Jonnies v Sars the other evening, and i believe that the same sort of thing went on, come on, come clean, we want to know!!!!!! Are you going into this ref role full time, would,nt mind heading to one of your games!!!!
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Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
As long as it's not overly aggressive, then jabbing IS part of the game. "Jabbing" with real intended force in an attempt to break ribs is scummy behaviour and should be met with even more intent in response. When the ball's there of course ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 07, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
You are clearly taking the p1ss(or I hope you are) when say about giving the fella a good lick with the stick.
Striking with the stick is one of the worst crimes in any sport...you have a stick to play with and should feel privilged to be doing so. A hurling stick should be treated with respect. if you're a fighter lay the stick down and go for it.

I also hate jabbing with the stick. That should be a yellow card offence straight away. If you can't stick the shoulder in a man without jabbing the stick you should burn your hurl.
Interested to see what others think of jabbing (am I using the correct term).

Thee most stupid thing I have seen is two men with a helmet squaring up head to head and then one of them headbutting...what is the sense in that?!

I have nothing but respect for hurling, it hurts me to see and hear about fights at johnies game, seems all there interested in. Which is why its interesting to see them start fighting, they clearly have no respect for hurling, their club or themselves, but yet them dont use the hurl. I wonder what stops them?

To comment on the most stupid thing ive seen. In a school next few years ago, two boys were at eachother all match, near the end one fella threw the lid off and punched the other boy (helmet still on) right the guard, breaking his hand! He wasnt the sharpest.

I hate fighting on any level from international rules to boxing and a brawl on a saturday night. I really hate it. Therefore it confuses me when i see fellas having fight and taking of there protective gear.

Glens and MR your both right I have not place in hurling. Dirty jabs and slaps do, Its a skill to do it and not get caught.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 04:28:07 PM
Its a fine line Skull...with intent to break ribs!

I personally dont think it should be part of the game...if the referee sees it it should be yellow. I don't go on the pitch to get struck by a hurl deliberately which that is. It can often do more damage than a strike with the head of the stick. Like MR I dont mind hard hurling, getting slapped and the rest is part of the game, during the game.

Aggressive mouthing should spur you on. If a player is concentrating on getting a good slur/insult in he isn't concentrating on the game.
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Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2008, 04:35:57 PM
It's a man's game Glens. A bit of niggle when both parties know the boundaries is a way for some of showing they're fired up for the game. Nothing more. It's the boy's who feel for some reason they have to prove their manliness at this point by taking things beyond what would be just niggle is the problem.
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Post by: johnneycool on August 07, 2008, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 07, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
As long as it's not overly aggressive, then jabbing IS part of the game. "Jabbing" with real intended force in an attempt to break ribs is scummy behaviour and should be met with even more intent in response. When the ball's there of course ;)

Jez lads jabbing is one thing but its more manly that a lot of other things like pulling low and early under a dropping ball, blocking on the hands or wild pulling in a ruck usually by a hit and run expert not to be seen when it all kicks off. It'd surprise you the number of ref's who don't understand what a bad pull or block is and let it go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 05:08:16 PM
It is a MAN's game Skull...but when you go to minor, U16 and even U14 games and see young fellas giving their markers a poke with the edge of the stick its pretty saddening to see. They've learnt it from what they see their seniors do or the players on the TV do and get away with.
You are given an inch you take a mile.
1 poke, 2 pokes BANG full hit with the stick.

If seen it should be a yellow.

Agree JC. Other matters are more important. Players often get away with throwing the ball up in a tight spot and basically swining round the player that has put them in a tight spot.
Refs often aren't too sure.
A slightly different one was last week I was watching a game where the defender was too close to either hook or block...the defender, brave and mad though it was, stepped in and blocked the shot with his body...getting a free out. Wrong.

Referees have to have played the game or have a deep understanding of it. Referee coaching should involve ex hurlers (and more specifically ex dirty hurlers) giving them the tricks of their trade. Too often referees blow for innocuous frees and the big ones are missed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2008, 09:36:17 AM
It's always hard to call everything; I'd say that almost every tackle will have a player, manager, supporter and passer by shouting foul. If ya were to call everything then the game would be a farce.

Here are the main fouls, push in the back when going for the ball. Now what does the referee do when a player cons the referee and falls over easily?
pulling early or late, this deserves a tick or yellow, playing the opponent stick is a simple call but unseen sometimes (always get away with it on the younger players) the most annoying one has to be over carrying, now they say 4 steps or the time it takes to take 4 steps, certain players out there and we know who they are take the piss, but manage to get away with it.
I think this rule annoys defenders the most and is the main reason for shouting at referees. If the player is getting fouled the referee allows the player to take more steps as an advantage, now in the rule book there is no advantage rule. So he should blow for the foul or blow for over carrying
Referees have a different view on this and the inconsistency causes grief.

Slabbering to the referee is an automatic yellow card. Some do it right away others understand if there is no malice in it and laugh it off. A referee needs to understand how passionate hurling/winning is to both teams.

I'd say most referees will blow for a foul the second they see it, they can't see everything, haven done a few games this year it's difficult to see. So as a current player and referee I can sympathise with both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2008, 10:42:45 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 05:08:16 PM

Players often get away with throwing the ball up in a tight spot and basically swining round the player that has put them in a tight spot.
Refs often aren't too sure.
A slightly different one was last week I was watching a game where the defender was too close to either hook or block...the defender, brave and mad though it was, stepped in and blocked the shot with his body...getting a free out. Wrong.


IMO if you're in possession and in a ruck you are well within your rights to throw/drop the ball and pull on it, provided of course you make a genuine attempt to play the ball and not the man. It's up to the opponent to protect themselves.
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Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2008, 11:10:15 AM
This is true enough, but have seen the ref give frees the other way tho. The ref's job is a hard unthankful job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 07, 2008, 05:08:16 PM
It is a MAN's game Skull...but when you go to minor, U16 and even U14 games and see young fellas giving their markers a poke with the edge of the stick its pretty saddening to see. They've learnt it from what they see their seniors do or the players on the TV do and get away with.
You are given an inch you take a mile.
1 poke, 2 pokes BANG full hit with the stick.

You might do that Glens but most boys who are interested in hurling give an inch and take an inch and get on with it. The Ding Gillans of this world however seem to spend the whole game looking for opertunities to mame.
The reality of it is that it is a sport which requires a bit of nerve. The paranoid yellow hoors as well as poor hurlers trying to drag good hurler down to his level are main culprits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 08, 2008, 10:24:51 PM
Any game this weekend? or is it just a watching weekend? Any prediction on the big games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 09, 2008, 06:35:19 AM
Does anyone know yet exactly what weekend the SHC semi-finals will be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 09, 2008, 08:11:11 AM
M R i am surprised at you, there is a rule governing advantage, i think you need to read a bit more. It was always quoted to me back in Dublin when playing?
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Post by: aontroim on August 09, 2008, 09:57:00 AM
Cushendall v Rossa is on next weekend in Loughgiel (at the minute until someone complains both semis are not on the same weekend) there's a host of posts about this on the county guestbook.  Looks like the semis (for all hurling cships) were fixed for mid-Sept but as the SHC only has 3 rounds, next weekend was to be the date for the next round of matches (now the semi's) the quarter-finals of the JHC / IHC are also on next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 09, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
On a lighter note I see Clute is on "The road to Croker" Master Marksman Challenge against Pat Fox next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 12, 2008, 07:55:06 AM
echo   echo    echo    echo      echo        echo   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 13, 2008, 11:37:08 AM
so is the cushendall rossa game going ahead at the weekend then?
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Post by: NAG on August 13, 2008, 12:14:40 PM
do u think it will make any difference if they are up for it or not colonel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 13, 2008, 04:17:28 PM
I agree with the colonel Rossa may cause a shock. If St Johns were in the semi no one would write them off so why write off Rossa. And before you say because they are in Div 2 remember the last time they won the championship they were in Div 1B which was div 2 in all but name.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 15, 2008, 09:51:46 AM
Well the first semi this weekend IMO I cant see Rossa making it to half time but I hope that Im wrong and that there is at least a game to watch.

There isnt much conversation about the other semi, is it too early to predict it or is it too close to call?
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Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 15, 2008, 10:05:49 AM
is there a date/time/venue for the other semi yet, would love to watch it, saw the 2 c'ship games between them last year and they were excellent
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Post by: maxpower on August 15, 2008, 02:39:04 PM
Yeh Dunloy v Loughgiel is 14th Sept.  No venue st yet but i would expect it to be Ballycastle.  Have to say Ballycastle's pitch wasn't in the greatest of shapes the last time we played on it, certainly compared to the abslutely perfect condition it had been in.  And i can't understand those '3g' goalmouths.  Difficult for a keeper

On Sundays match i think like everyone i'd expect Cushendall to come through comfortably in the end, Rossa though are very much a championship team and always gave anyone a real game in recent years, indeed am right in saying the last time these teams meet in Championship last year Rossa actually turned them over.

Rossa will need goals to win, they don't have the scoring power to out point the Dall but they are also up against the best defensive unit in the county, just happy the demise of Rossa has been greatly exaggerated and they brought a good u21 to Dunloy in the championship this year so they may well be building again, and will be delighted to have regained status as Belfast's no1 hurling team

Prediction

Cushendall 2:14 Rossa 1:11
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Post by: NAG on August 15, 2008, 03:07:09 PM
I agree that the 3g goal mouths are horrendus. I dont know how any keeper could be confident on them.

I just have been wondering how far the johnnies must have gone back since their early season good form. I really dont think that Rossa are up to the mark, I do agree that they are going to need goals to win and I can see the cushendall defence coughing up anything to them. This is probably the best defence in Div 1.

The only saving grace for rossa is that cushendall are not free scoring and probably wont cut loose on them.
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Post by: glens73 on August 15, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 15, 2008, 02:39:04 PM
Yeh Dunloy v Loughgiel is 14th Sept.  No venue st yet but i would expect it to be Ballycastle.  Have to say Ballycastle's pitch wasn't in the greatest of shapes the last time we played on it, certainly compared to the abslutely perfect condition it had been in.  And i can't understand those '3g' goalmouths.  Difficult for a keeper

On Sundays match i think like everyone i'd expect Cushendall to come through comfortably in the end, Rossa though are very much a championship team and always gave anyone a real game in recent years, indeed am right in saying the last time these teams meet in Championship last year Rossa actually turned them over.

Rossa will need goals to win, they don't have the scoring power to out point the Dall but they are also up against the best defensive unit in the county, just happy the demise of Rossa has been greatly exaggerated and they brought a good u21 to Dunloy in the championship this year so they may well be building again, and will be delighted to have regained status as Belfast's no1 hurling team

Prediction

Cushendall 2:14 Rossa 1:11

Is this right that the Dunloy v Loughgiel match is on 14th Sept. I am home that weekend and I am keen to see that match. Is it not a bit odd that the first semi-final is 4 weeks before the second one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 17, 2008, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 15, 2008, 03:07:09 PM
I agree that the 3g goal mouths are horrendus. I dont know how any keeper could be confident on them.

What are they, never heard anything like it before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2008, 08:50:37 PM
Rossa    0-9   3-17   Cushendall

Big enough hiding there.

Doesn't speak volumes for the johnnies...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2008, 09:21:50 PM
Actually thought Rossa had a few new kids on the block who acquitted themselves well, but their forward line was way off the pace completely. An easy win in the end for the dall, but Rossa have something to work with as far as a could see.

Wonder what happened to all the Belfast Gaels tonight? Terrible turn out. Maybe youse heard about the £8 admission they were looking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 17, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
It shows you how poor the standard is in Antrim when St Johns,the perennial dark horse and had a few notable league wins early on get beaten by a Div 2 team. It also shows the importance of the league,Cushendall have been pretty poor this year but will probably win the championship this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 17, 2008, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2008, 10:14:54 PM
If St.John's win a championship, in the next 10 years, I'll eat this laptop. Groundlie - feel free to quote me on that. I'm still awaiting your return 'til I throw a few quotes your way. ;)

Careful HS i near pissed myself laughin ya bastard.  :D St johns have always had strong young teams, but never showed there full potenial at senior pity. But unless there radical change of view at the club I think your right HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on August 17, 2008, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2008, 10:14:54 PM
I can never understand how the Johnnies are always talked about come championship. Well, I can - they spout some amount of shite about themselves. If they get a result in the league against one of the big guns, they talk about it for a month. I know a lot of them and the amount of times I've heard "This is our year" is unbelieveable. Even after Rossa beat them, it was "we didn't do ourselves justice" "I can't believe them b**tards stopped us getting to a county final". They thought they had Cushendall beat because they beat them in the league.
If St.John's win a championship, in the next 10 years, I'll eat this laptop. Groundlie - feel free to quote me on that. I'm still awaiting your return 'til I throw a few quotes your way. ;)

Looks like im eating my words!!

I think its fair to say that St Johns are the liverpool of antrim championship hurling, 'this is our year'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 17, 2008, 11:13:36 PM
First team meeting of the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 18, 2008, 10:00:11 AM
The match was a bit of a damp squib. In saying that when hamil was brought down through on a goal, a goal at that stage would have left 3 points in the game with ten gone in the second half.

Rossa had some good performers throughout the game, kettle looked the part the centre half and the right half (dont know names) looked solid throughout.

Didnt think rossa were ever going to threaten cushendall but i thought c'dall were sluggish enough. Magill is the main man around the middle and a bit more attention on him would have left the supply of ball going into the forwards limited enough.

any one else have any opinions on them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 18, 2008, 11:39:56 AM
Was one of those games that the dall knew they were always going to win, hence the element of sluggishness IMO

I only hope that Rossa can take a little heart way from yesterdays game. Although the scoreline didn't reflect it, I thought all of their backs looked to have potential. Kettle had a great game. They need alot of work in the forward line, but stranger things have happened
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 18, 2008, 08:44:30 PM
In fairness colonel i think that particular tradition is a load of oul balls, nobody from a losing team wants to hear the old "keep the head up,youse gave us a great game",especially after a tanking,you just want to get away as quickly as possible ! In saying that manners cost nothing and there was no need for that from Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on August 19, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2008, 10:42:45 PM
I'll spare ya, for a while. ;)

Where (in your opinion) did it all go wrong, groundlie?

Its hard to know where it all went wrong to be honest. But the atmosphere throughout the club over the past 5-6 years stinks. There are to many personality clashes and the wrong people are running the club in my opinion.

On the hurling front this year, we started well in the league and the lads where training 3 nights a week from January. A bit much, but that was the managers decision. And when it came to the crunch, we where beaten by a poor but young Rossa team, and that tells the tail of where we are at.
There will always be a hope that a few of these feile lads can come through but thats going to be tough, senior hurlings tough.

But thats it all over for another season..

Any views from the outside??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 19, 2008, 12:29:25 PM
The problem is simlar to ballycastle problem good underage, but missing that link into senior level. For any club this is a vital area that is often ignored. It is comparable to the transfer of the baton in the 4*400 race, the lad receiveing the baton needs to be up to speed with the fella coming through. Both of these teams mentioned could well do with looking into this area, it could be put right within a few years and HS could be made to eat his words, St john had some great players(knocker and meader spring to mind) in a very strong minor and u-21 team not so long ago. Together with some of the youngboys from the recent feile success could make a formitable team. They just need to look after there players and get them invovled with the seniors at the right age.

Then again all this is undone it the eejits book holidays in the middle of championship.

Its the transfer stage is were it all matters the young fellas feel there part of the senior panel and stick with the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 19, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I have to agree with most of what has been said on this issue.

Its that vital stage between minor and the transition to senior level. I think alot of it is to do with the manager if the young guys believe in them and the structure they have in their training then they will stick with it.

The clubs need to put the pathway in place for the young talent to develop and come through to senior level. St Johns have failed dismally to do this in recent years along with the majority of belfast clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2008, 02:08:36 PM
Agree with those points

Can't understand why our County Board don't offer advice/tutelage on how clubs need to focus on this stage of a hurler/footballers development

It is in their best interest to do so as you would get better quality/commitment coming through from Minor to Senior

Another thing that seriously needs to be addressed

Anyone who watched the Waterford Tipp match and then went down to Ballycastle later in the evening would see that there is a massive gulf in what gets blown as a foul up here and what gets blown down south. Now referee's up here will say they are blowing genuine fouls, but they are missing the point and the gulf that it creates between the intensity of the game up here and in the traditional hurling areas.

I feel that the County Management should be sitting down with the County Board and the Referees to try to convince them that the refereeing style needs to reflect what happens in the rest of the Country. If they got such an agreement it should then be put to the clubs that there would be a uniform change in the refereeing of our games up here and that the clubs have a responsibility to prepare their teams for that change. so that players don't lose the head when they don't get frees they may have got in the past. Serious discipline would be needed by the players to make such a change work, but they all know I'm sure that they need to get used to hurling with that little bit more intensity. Antrim will never be able to compete with that Southern style of hurling on the the breaking ball and in the tackle if we do not get used to doing it week in week out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 19, 2008, 05:42:20 PM
All very laudable sentiments indeed, but there are 2 major problems:

1). It is the players (& mentors) themselves who want a free given every time somebody goes within 5 yards of them.

2). There are still merchants in the game who aren't happy until the row starts.

Cure those 2 problems, adopt the same atitude that the players in, for example, Munster display (i.e. hard, tough & "mostly" clean) & I'm sure you would find officials willing to let the game "flow", as the current turn of phrase has it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 19, 2008, 09:52:16 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 19, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
I have to agree with most of what has been said on this issue.

Its that vital stage between minor and the transition to senior level. I think alot of it is to do with the manager if the young guys believe in them and the structure they have in their training then they will stick with it.

The clubs need to put the pathway in place for the young talent to develop and come through to senior level. St Johns have failed dismally to do this in recent years along with the majority of belfast clubs.

Totally agree. the young players (and the older ones) need stablity in the club, the same management team and a rotating pool of good coaches and phyiscal trainers for the management to choose from. Unless something is terriblilty badly wrong with the management or a long plan has not being achieved or even put in place, then there is no need for the annual changes of management that we often here about.


Theres a few view and critiques for you groundlie? HS will no doubt add his voice to the matter as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 20, 2008, 03:55:52 PM
lads gives us a quick reminder of how to get to Glenarms pitch from Belfast, is it, head to Larne then on to Glearm, through Glenarm then a left to Feys town road? having not played there for 6/7 years i'm a little rusty on the directions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 20, 2008, 03:55:52 PM
lads gives us a quick reminder of how to get to Glenarms pitch from Belfast, is it, head to Larne then on to Glearm, through Glenarm then a left to Feys town road? having not played there for 6/7 years i'm a little rusty on the directions.

Ah yes Glenarm, they will play without the ball if needed.......Thankfully we havent had to play there in a while, if memory serves me right go up into the village then take a left up a hill then a right and you are halfway up the mountain. Hopefully you wont have to ask any of the natives for directions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 20, 2008, 04:10:54 PM
always rely on the Minder to sort me out, i myself will be drawing swords with the men from Ardonye, they always manage to swing early and often.....or is it vote early and vote often ??? either way i have my self prepared for a battle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 20, 2008, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 20, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 20, 2008, 03:55:52 PM
lads gives us a quick reminder of how to get to Glenarms pitch from Belfast, is it, head to Larne then on to Glearm, through Glenarm then a left to Feys town road? having not played there for 6/7 years i'm a little rusty on the directions.

Ah yes Glenarm, they will play without the ball if needed.

NEver a truer word spoken
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
ACHL Div 1 Result tonight.

Glenariffe 4-11 Ballycastle 5-13

Our boys are heading for the trap door.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on August 20, 2008, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2008, 07:34:46 PM
What was the craic with the late throw-in in the Rossa - Cushendall match, which saw Aiden Hamill sent off? I hear Rossa were out at 5 to 7 and Cushendall hadn't appeared at 20 past. Hamill had words with the ref (Garret Duffy?) and got the line. Anyone who was there confirm?

Cushendall up to their old tricks, they often dont come out until well after time of game.  Maybe its their way of mind games.
From what i saw hamill was sent out before match even started for shouting at ref to get cushendall out.  He was soon kept company by Jim Connolly though!!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2008, 10:52:11 PM
ACHL Div 1 Result tonight.

Cushendall 2-13  Dunloy 3-16

Both teams not totally firing as far as I could see. Don't think anybody gave anything away tonight. Referee was consistent with both teams  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 20, 2008, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 20, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
ACHL Div 1 Result tonight.

Glenariffe 4-11 Ballycastle 5-13

Our boys are heading for the trap door.

Ballycastle won a game of hurling?!? Thats shocking in itself, but a game that has 9 goals in it and four against the county keeper :o. Who were ballycastle playing in the full? who got there goals!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 21, 2008, 07:16:15 AM
Last Nights Results

Antrim Hurling Div 1

Ballygalget 2-15 v 1-15 Portaferry   
Cushendall 2-13 v 3-16 Dunloy   
St. Johns 0-11 v 1-18 Loughgiel      
Glenariff 4-11 v 5-13 Ballycastle      

Antrim Hurling Div 2-3
   
Cloughmills    3-5 v 3-16 Rossa   
Gaeil Chluana 0-23 v 0-6 Sarsfields   
Gort Na Mona 1-15 v 1-18 Tir na Nog   
Shane O Neills - v - St. Galls - Not Played   
Armoy 0-12 v 2-10 Cushendun      
Lamh Dhearg 0-15 v 1-8 St. Pauls      

Antrim Hurling Div 4A - 2008
   
Ballymena 0-9 v 1-10 St. Endas
      
Antrim Hurling Div 4B - 2008
   
Bredagh - v - Sean McDermotts  Not Played   
Davitts 2-12 v 2-8 St. Brigids B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 21, 2008, 07:31:13 AM
Hardstation, i was at the game, Aiden Hamill 1st abused Mc Sparren then went straight for the referee in the middle, granted rossa where out at 6.50 and the Dall did,nt come out to 7pm on the dot. Hamill should know that apart from blowing his whistle the referee has no power until the allocated 15mins after start time has passed, he can only report the offending team. I listened to the abuse about 20-25 mins in that connolly was shouting, he got what he deserved in my opinion, he was well out of order.

Aiden Hamill in my opinion needs therapy, he has lost it. Rossa where just outclassed and looked an average Div2 team at best, M kettle was the man of the match, he was excellent, chris hammil did,nt figure at all should pack it in. Felt sorry for some of rossa,s good minors that team will ruin them, especially if hammil is left to manage them. £8 to watch that, ive seen better Div3 teams in Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 09:14:35 AM
being a bit harsh on the referee lads when some of you were not even at the match, Hamill looses it for whatever reasons only he knows. surprised at big Jim, shouting at the referee will never make him change his mind. if you were being treated like that at work would you stand for it? we all have had a moan to the referee but some players and managers take the piss.

as for the comments regarding referees always blowing up for needless things, and did you watch the Waterford game, people are always looking for hard tackles and the referee to let it flow, but if that happened in Antrim it would cause a riot. as someone said earlier the players have to change their mind set for this to happen.

if your team was in the county semi final and it was a tight match and one of thoses hard tackles (like in the Waterford game) happened to one of your players, and the ball breaks to the opposition and they score the goal that wins the match, would you be giving off to the referee or would you be saying afterwards, the referee did well, he let the game flow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 21, 2008, 10:09:31 AM
I dont like criticising referee's on here at all and Im not going to single anyone out because it is a very tough job to do and they do it for nothing.

However I have to say that the standard has been slipping in the last number of years. I dont mind ref's being picky if they are picky on every aspect consistently so that everyone knows what is a foul and what isnt.

But there is one issue that I have to take exception with and it is a fault of alot of our referee's, they cannot spot a dangerous foul. They will pull players up on silly technical fouls and let some of the most ridiculously dangerous swinging and blocking go.

I think if they irradicated these dangerous fouls then they could let the game flow by not pulling up every tiny infraction on the minor things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Heard Connelly's outburst and he got what he deserved. Have sympathy with why he was frustrated as I didn't feel at that stage that Rossa we're getting their fair share of the decisions, but the manner and tone of his tirade was way out of order.

Did the Rossa line try and promote a bit of the old Dunkirk spirit into their troops  ;)

Kettle was indeed the MOTM

Some other oberservations. Anyone else see Gavin Bell stamp on Aaron Graffin. No one else around me seen it, so I could be mistaken

And what did use think of the sending off for a "professional foul" . Is that not a soccer rule?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 10:43:00 AM
looking forward to the loughgiel Dunloy semi final, think i'll jump in the car and head down will be a good game.

is it fair that Cushendall have all this time now to concentrate on the final? whats the pros and cons in this.

on another note we were beat by Ardonye last night >:(  but before the game the BBC newsline were down doing a piece on the Bog Meadows being closed for enviromental reasons due to the flooding. the girl doing the interview and claimed how dangerous it was and to make sure you all stay away from the bog Meadows. the second she stopped talking, 40 girls from the ladies team and Ardoyne seniors and our seconds ran past her into the 'DANGER ZONE'  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 21, 2008, 10:47:15 AM
Good point skull, some of the lads said they heard one of the umpires after the game when he was out for a smoke say it was for dangerous play, not sure what rule that comes under, maybe MR can help us out on that one? Bit harse on the keeper we would all have probably done the exact same thing in the same position. I see the guys had ear pieces in, good to see, i think it can only improve the decisions.

Hamil and Connolly got what they deserved, MR is Duffy big on the abusive language, no nonsense type of referee? I felt that he did,nt want a casement scenario to raise its head, he kept it tight, some may think too tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
Garret is flexable you can talk to him but if someone is calling you cheat and questioning your parentage then you only have one weapon to use. if the abuse continues and kids see that you can get away with it then it will continue all the time. i'm all for firing up your team and creating a seige mentality but ya can't abuse the referees, they are only human and will not give the team those tight decisions. would you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2008, 11:07:07 AM
Milltown did your seniors not make it to Glenarm last night ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 11:50:27 AM
no apparently there was a land slide on the M2 and the only lane open was blocked by a lorry took them an hour to get away from, on the hill towards Glengormley.

we'd finished our game (the seconds) at the pitch and i was having a pint before they made it back to the club just before nine. not happy campers at all.

Minder will Glenariffe drop down to intermediate next year? i think we will also. senior championship will have two less teams in it next year. does not say a lot about Antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2008, 12:00:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 11:50:27 AM
no apparently there was a land slide on the M2 and the only lane open was blocked by a lorry took them an hour to get away from, on the hill towards Glengormley.

we'd finished our game (the seconds) at the pitch and i was having a pint before they made it back to the club just before nine. not happy campers at all.

Minder will Glenariffe drop down to intermediate next year? i think we will also. senior championship will have two less teams in it next year. does not say a lot about Antrim hurling

Not sure Milltown, it will probably depend on who is managing. I think this will be Raymie Mc Donnells last year managing, it looks like we are headed for Div 2 and as we are a small club and not one of the traditional powerhouses the leagues will probably not be rearranged. So there is no point playing senior championship as a Div2 club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 21, 2008, 12:01:46 PM
I dont think that it was regarded as a 'professional foul'

He did trip him which is a sending off offence and he also struck with the hurl which is a sending off offence so he could have gone for either.If he is lucky he will be done for the trip and get the month.

Yes it was a clear stamp on Graffin less than 6 yards away from the umpire so how that didnt recieve the same treatment is unbelieveable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 21, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 21, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Heard Connelly's outburst and he got what he deserved. Have sympathy with why he was frustrated as I didn't feel at that stage that Rossa we're getting their fair share of the decisions, but the manner and tone of his tirade was way out of order.

Did the Rossa line try and promote a bit of the old Dunkirk spirit into their troops  ;)

Kettle was indeed the MOTM

Some other oberservations. Anyone else see Gavin Bell stamp on Aaron Graffin. No one else around me seen it, so I could be mistakenAnd what did use think of the sending off for a "professional foul" . Is that not a soccer rule?

Graffins chest has 2 big foot marks on it and because of that he wasn't fit to play last night against dunloy. definately intended and an act like that (stamping on a man on the ground) was act of a coward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2008, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
Garret is flexable you can talk to him but if someone is calling you cheat and questioning your parentage then you only have one weapon to use. if the abuse continues and kids see that you can get away with it then it will continue all the time. i'm all for firing up your team and creating a seige mentality but ya can't abuse the referees

100% right milltown and should be the first thing a young player should learn. You may not like the decisions but that does not give you any right to abuse the referee. If I was a referee, I would red card anybody who crossed that line and would respect any referee who would do the same whether the player was a Dunloy man or not.

NAG hit the nail on the head with this quote however

Quote from: NAG on August 21, 2008, 10:09:31 AM
But there is one issue that I have to take exception with and it is a fault of alot of our referee's, they cannot spot a dangerous foul. They will pull players up on silly technical fouls and let some of the most ridiculously dangerous swinging and blocking go.

I think if they irradicated these dangerous fouls then they could let the game flow by not pulling up every tiny infraction on the minor things.

Last night our centre half whilst contesting and actually winning a dropping ball got a full belt across his face guard and a free against him for what must have been deemed to be pushing. His opponent had nothing said to him. Then he blows for two handpasses deemed very dubiously to be throws. It's so frustrating when you see matches on RTE and then expect the same refereeing attitudes apply to the local game.

Don't be overly fussy. Keep in mind that the game should be encouraged to flow. Blow dangerous and blatent fouls only would be my advice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 01:27:07 PM
I think consistency is needed; the rule book is clear on fouls and what action is to be taken when the foul is committed. The referees who do the div one games are the ones who are meant to have the experience, and if they referee the same way together then there should be no complaints.  It's when you play a game one week and something is allowed and then play the next and it's not allowed. That's when we complain.

The thing is, what you see from your angle may not be what he sees; the referee gets nothing out of not blowing for the free that you see. If it's a foul and he sees it he'll blow. You'll find that a referee from another club dislikes either team and who wins means absolutely to him.

But if a referee is goaded constantly from a certain team then it will make it harder for him to judge fairly. Its only human nature.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2008, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 01:27:07 PM
I think consistency is needed; the rule book is clear on fouls and what action is to be taken when the foul is committed.


No no no no no milltown . This is the problem. Out top referee's are too fussy BECAUSE they have the rule book on their side. Watch the AI semi finals and I guarentee you that I could pick out countless numbers of rulebook infractions that just don't get blown, because IMO both teams don't expect "fussy fouls" to get blown. What happens as a result of is that the game flows better. Referees in croke park know that just like the players, they have a role to play in making the game worth watching. That means they have to exercise judgement not continually refer to the rulebook to support the decisions they make.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 02:16:01 PM
ok Skull, but if i go back to one of my original posts on this matter, if the referees did referee this way in Antrim then there would be a riot. i've played too many games when the referee has let it go and it boils over and someone is on there way to the hospital. the attitude then is 'fcuk the referee is letting things go, get stuck in'

i would advise anyone to go to the course on refereeing, if not to be a referee but understand and maybe even voice your views about refereeing

on another note:
was playing last night and won a couple of balls off the guy i was marking, the manager shouted to the marker 'if your going to foul him then f**king hurt him, take him down' now i'm old enough to not give a shite about that talk from the line but what gets me is that these were only kids and have been trained and coached to play like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 21, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
Milltown is correct that it woudl result in a riot sometimes which is probably true.
But as skull suggested it is going to take a mind set change from players and clubs to achieve this, to this end what would be wrong with a referee dropping in to St Galls, rossa cushendall loughgiel on a training night and taking 5 mins to explain to the players that they want to let the game flow but if that is going to happen they need the players to realise that there is sometimes that they wont get that cheap free.

The should also IMO drop into the managers before the games how they are going to handle the game this can be done informally in 2mins and get agreement from the managers and then it is up to the managers to pass this on. Therefore this takes away the suprise element to  it and it means the ref can say to the manager who is complaining 'I told you beforehand what the case was'

Sounds too simplistic to actually work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2008, 02:44:17 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 02:16:01 PM
ok Skull, but if i go back to one of my original posts on this matter, if the referees did referee this way in Antrim then there would be a riot. i've played too many games when the referee has let it go and it boils over and someone is on there way to the hospital. the attitude then is 'fcuk the referee is letting things go, get stuck in'

i would advise anyone to go to the course on refereeing, if not to be a referee but understand and maybe even voice your views about refereeing

Yes. If it was left to individual referees to "let the game flow" (as apposed to "let the game go") then you could well be right. However what I have said in an earlie post is that it needs to communicated from the top down through all levels to ensure everyone is aware that the style will be changing and that clubs need to ensure that their players are ready for it. Everyone should also be made aware of the motivations to change the way games are refereeed as well. If that was done then I don't think that there would be any riots especially if dangerous and blatent fouling are still blown.

Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 02:16:01 PM
on another note:
was playing last night and won a couple of balls off the guy i was marking, the manager shouted to the marker 'if your going to foul him then f**king hurt him, take him down' now i'm old enough to not give a shite about that talk from the line but what gets me is that these were only kids and have been trained and coached to play like that.

Should that guy not be reported milltown? Obvious that this would have been they way that the manager played and  felt it made him a hard man. So easy to stay behind and cut someone up. Gutless bsatrad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 02:57:51 PM
Quote from: NAG on August 21, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
Milltown is correct that it woudl result in a riot sometimes which is probably true.
But as skull suggested it is going to take a mind set change from players and clubs to achieve this, to this end what would be wrong with a referee dropping in to St Galls, rossa cushendall loughgiel on a training night and taking 5 mins to explain to the players that they want to let the game flow but if that is going to happen they need the players to realise that there is sometimes that they wont get that cheap free.

The should also IMO drop into the managers before the games how they are going to handle the game this can be done informally in 2mins and get agreement from the managers and then it is up to the managers to pass this on. Therefore this takes away the suprise element to  it and it means the ref can say to the manager who is complaining 'I told you beforehand what the case was'

Sounds too simplistic to actually work!


i put this to the panel when doing the course and was advised against this, the reason being, you'd be the worst in the world if you failed to act on something you said beforehand, it could be the case that the referee did not see it. which is fair enough. ex players need to be referees.

as for that guy on the line Skull, i dont think he'd have the sense to understand what he was saying, or the damage it's doing to the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 21, 2008, 03:08:24 PM
Lads, im a blow in from the Northside of Dublin, i concur with what most of what you are saying, i have watched two Antrim Referees do games at national, Owen Elliott and Garrett Duffy to be honest they both have refereed excellent across the boarder, they let a lot go, especially Duffy in a game against Louth v Fingal excellent game full blooded. MR is right it does,nt end up in a free for all down here, and both boys seemed to have clicked to that, the do referee differently at home it obivious if you have seen them away from antrim. Duffy does seem to be tough on the verbal aspect, but thats not a bad thing in my book, so MR im with you in that in Antrim it just cant happen and that is due to players managers/selectors, you are just not used to it up here full stop!!!!

So until players managers etc get it into their thick heads that knocks will be given and have to be taken without reprisal then antrim will always be a soft touch to say the least. Dont give it if you can,t take it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on August 22, 2008, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 21, 2008, 11:50:27 AM
no apparently there was a land slide on the M2 and the only lane open was blocked by a lorry took them an hour to get away from, on the hill towards Glengormley.

we'd finished our game (the seconds) at the pitch and i was having a pint before they made it back to the club just before nine. not happy campers at all.

Minder will Glenariffe drop down to intermediate next year? i think we will also. senior championship will have two less teams in it next year. does not say a lot about Antrim hurling

had been looking forward to a good game too!! Only 4 of your men appeared to make it on time, we trained instead then a few more of your men appeared.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
Yes girt very unfortunate for yourselves and the seniors that tried to get down in time. all the games are important to us as we need to finish second and hope that the county change their minds again and make it a ten team div one instead of the 8 team div one at the minute.

ourselves and Tir-na-og are pushing for that position, not surprised that they have come good, we've played them in many challenge games over the years and they have improved greatly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2008, 09:32:13 AM
seems the county are getting worked up over the sending off of the cushendall goalkeeper. any views on this lads? i was speaking to the referee who sent him off last week so i know his views on the matter.

the antrim website seem to be getting their knickers in a twist over it. surely it's simple, like everyone is intitled to an appeal. i'd like to know though about the success of previous appeals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on August 27, 2008, 09:34:26 AM
Depends if there a county player with a championship game coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2008, 10:14:45 AM
Well I thought it wasn't a sending off offense. If a defender had hauled/tripped the attacking player in the same way the goalkeeper did then he would have got a yellow card. Thought that soccer rules were being applied at the time tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 27, 2008, 10:39:40 AM
IHC 1/4 Final last night

Gaeil Chluana 3-11 v 1-5 Cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 27, 2008, 10:45:37 AM
Was it Fred Mc Auley? Is Ronan Kearney injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on August 27, 2008, 04:19:44 PM
MR just speaking with a North Antrim work colleague who gave me a run down, its ridiculous to say the least, he was sent off for danger to an opponent, which is a red card he informs me. Cushendal produced a video of the match, and sent it to appeals, which after viewing they decided to overturn the Referees decision. Whats the story with that!

He says the CHC as it is called 4 man team- have always overturned nearly everthing that goes to them, he says its a joke, some guy Frank Smith is a 2 faced B******S and should,nt be in the job. I,m sure the referee is pissed to say the least, after all the discussion about referees, if it was me i would tell them to shove it. The referees committee should back their man to the hilt and have none of it! Heres the biggest joke the Rossa player was going witness for the Goalkeeper!! Hamill is his name. Jesus what next, no wonder your county can,t progress with these type of A******S in it. MR that should be a lesson to you, don,t REFEREE thats why they can,t get anyone to REFEREE.

Frank Smith should join Brolly and the boys on the Sunday Game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
Calm down davinci ffs. That quite franklly is a load of balls

It was not a sending off offense. Simple as....and I'm a Dunloy man. There was nothing "dangerous" in what he done. He came out to meet Gavin Bell, and threw himself at him. There was no slashing with the stick, just an awkward challenge which warranted a yellow, but that was it.

I'm sure referees aren't that far up their own arses that they know that they CAN get things wrongs during a match the same as players. Why should a referee take the hump just because he got a decision wrong?

There's certainly been more contentious appeals in the past. This one is a no brainer afaik

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 27, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
The goalie was, as far as I am aware, the minor or under 21 goalie.
Ronan Kearney came on after a while out with injury and saved the resultant penalty I believe.

Would/will the keeper start in the final anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 27, 2008, 07:29:39 PM
So there appeals would really take place after big senior championship matches as no video evidence would exist for 99% of antrim club matches. Did the ref admit he made a mistake? If not it sets a dangerous precedent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 28, 2008, 09:04:24 AM
what about the matches last night?
any scores and reports?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2008, 09:09:39 AM
Loughgiel  0-17 1-11 Cushendall

Dunloy  6-23 1-13 St. Johns 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2008, 09:14:12 AM
If you have information that helps in an appeal process (in this case the use of video) then what is the problem? If you don't have it then you can't use it. Honestly some people can't see the woods from the trees such is their bitterness towards other clubs theres no point arguing with them  :-\

Beat the Johnnies 6-23 to 1-13
Different scoreline to last week against the dall, Dunloy put in a great performance with some great individual displays. In truth though, the Johnnies didn't compete anywhere near well enough in every sector of the pitch, and as a result gave Dunloy the extra bit of space to do the damage that they done. You can only beat whats in front of you, but I'm sure all will know that last night was not championship intensity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on August 28, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
Big scoreline none the less.

Seems like a big result for loughgiel all the same wonder were cushedall full strength, should be an interesting few weeks coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 28, 2008, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2008, 09:14:12 AM
If you have information that helps in an appeal process (in this case the use of video) then what is the problem? If you don't have it then you can't use it. Honestly some people can't see the woods from the trees such is their bitterness towards other clubs theres no point arguing with them  :-\


I agree with Skull.

Did Loughgeil beat Portaferry recently as well? It's hard to call between the big 3 at the minute. Any one of them could lift the Volunteer Cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2008, 10:03:15 AM
Did the ref admit he made a mistake with the sending off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 28, 2008, 10:05:53 AM
If there's a video they should ask the ref to view it and reconsider.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on August 28, 2008, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: NAG on August 28, 2008, 09:27:44 AM
Big scoreline none the less.

Seems like a big result for loughgiel all the same wonder were cushedall full strength, should be an interesting few weeks coming up.

From what i could see cushendall were full stength apart from obviously mcmanus although i could be wrong.  Loughgiel were below par with DD, watson, napper and all minors not playing.

Quote from: Guillem2 on August 28, 2008, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2008, 09:14:12 AM
If you have information that helps in an appeal process (in this case the use of video) then what is the problem? If you don't have it then you can't use it. Honestly some people can't see the woods from the trees such is their bitterness towards other clubs theres no point arguing with them  :-\


I agree with Skull.

Did Loughgeil beat Portaferry recently as well? It's hard to call between the big 3 at the minute. Any one of them could lift the Volunteer Cup.

Loughgiel did beat portaferry but by a free in the last few minutes to win it by a point.  Felt sorry for portaferry as they probably deserved something out of this game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 28, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
Double header in Casement tonight in the minor championship.

Loughgiel v Rossa & Cushendall v Gort Na Mona. The north Antrim men will have to be favorites but you never know. Could be a good evenings sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2008, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Guillem2 on August 28, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
Double header in Casement tonight in the minor championship.

Loughgiel v Rossa & Cushendall v Gort Na Mona. The north Antrim men will have to be favorites but you never know. Could be a good evenings sport.

I couldnt be bothered watching both, what will be the closest and most competitive?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on August 28, 2008, 01:10:59 PM
Does it matter if the Ref viewed it or not, Mc Sparren Frankie(Cushendun) Quinn(Cushendal) and Frank Smith do what they want, would be a paper exercise as they say. Why did Loughguile did the video to Cushendal in the 1st place? What did that idiot Hammil go witness? He rolled around like a footballer once he was taken out, what a P***K, like father like son eh!! The decision has been made, the CHC has undermined the Referee and the Referees committee will do shag all to support their man, plain and simple.

What an advertisement to Referee gealic games, what do you say to kids that want to get involved in the YOUNG WHISTLERS? Go to soccer you get paid more, plain and simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2008, 01:33:11 PM
If it was Deccy Magee would you be replying in the same manner TA?

People may have gripes about individuals in the CHC, but they are ignoring the point I keep stating

"It was not a sending off offense"...I repeat "It was not a sending off offense"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 01:34:11 PM
Do any of you lads have a contact number for underage hurling coaches from Creggan club as a fella I know is looking to get in contact with them about a blitz?

Could you Pm me Name and number if you do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2008, 08:04:01 PM
No reports on the two Minor semis last night. Loughguile beat Rossa 2-19 to 1-21 and Gort Na Mona stuffed Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 30, 2008, 08:47:26 AM
the ulster league final was on last night

Dunloy 4:22 Ballygalget 2:8

Good win, but ballygalget will be first to admit they didn't perform at all, especially at the back.  Full credit to Dunloy forwards though who at times were excellent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 30, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2008, 08:04:01 PM
No reports on the two Minor semis last night. Loughguile beat Rossa 2-19 to 1-21 and Gort Na Mona stuffed Cushendall.

Great result for the Gorts who have been pushing hard at underage level recently, hope they can keep it going. Loughgiel v Rossa looks like it was a cracker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2008, 04:20:06 PM
we played Glenravel the other night, finished with 13 players due to injuries from the sledging going on, was not there to witness it. the three mc gourty's played, think kevin got injured and may not be playing on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 01, 2008, 12:02:19 PM
Big scoreline in the Ulster League final, what was the story were dunloy full strength?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 02, 2008, 04:04:31 PM
M-Row any truth in the rumour you have been awarded a final this month, i hear you may be a shoe in for it. Are we at last going to be privileged to see the man in action. Can u confirm if this is true? I will not identify the final in question, just curious?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2008, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 02, 2008, 04:04:31 PM
M-Row any truth in the rumour you have been awarded a final this month, i hear you may be a shoe in for it. Are we at last going to be privileged to see the man in action. Can u confirm if this is true? I will not identify the final in question, just curious?

US Open Tennis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 03, 2008, 04:12:03 PM
M-Row, i think you are hiding from us!! Staying in the football section, come on declare your hand! work with us? R u or R U not up for a final shortly, hurling i believe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
i could be ;) i'm sure my fans will be out to assess my performance if i am ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2008, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
i could be ;) i'm sure my fans will be out to assess my performance if i am ;D

More importantly Milltown have you any spare tickets for the All Ireland this weekend ?  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
as yet minder i have none, last year i had 4!!! will go to the club in hope of getting one tommorrow, but for sure i'll be on the train down on sunday morning. always tickets available in the pubs for cost price,

my younger bro has been ghosting on the football site. i'll not give out his name but next time i will.

you heading down Minder? crowd from the club and the regulars from the other belfast clubs will be on the train. always good craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2008, 09:35:30 PM
as yet minder i have none, last year i had 4!!! will go to the club in hope of getting one tommorrow, but for sure i'll be on the train down on sunday morning. always tickets available in the pubs for cost price,

my younger bro has been ghosting on the football site. i'll not give out his name but next time i will.

you heading down Minder? crowd from the club and the regulars from the other belfast clubs will be on the train. always good craic

Aye there are a few of us going down on Saturday morning, we have a team in the 7's but they will probably be eliminated by the time we land in Kilmacud. I think we only get four or five tickets for the club and am not holding out a lot of hope in that draw. I have a few people promising the world but delivering fcuk all ! St Johns are also sending a Sevens team down, i wonder will they be drinking on the way down on the bus this year as per last year ?? I saw a post with your handle on it in the football thread with some atrocious spelling yesterday i think, was that the culprit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2008, 09:47:07 PM
yep wee bro was taking the piss. we played the St judes seven for about 4 years completely hammered on the friday night and the water bottles were missing water but filled with another liquid  ;D ;D

played Portumna one year and played against brendan Cummings of tipp. he was doing nets and was unreal, some craic when we eventually scored a goal against him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
I never saw one game last year, arrived in the clubhouse at 1pm and set up camp, gonna try and get out and see a few this year..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trouble Ahead on September 04, 2008, 01:00:47 PM
Well its comming to that time of the year again lads, who are the officials to take charge of both Finals, are Hurling final is a bit of a non-event. Who have we got for the Hurling, and who have we got for the football, any odds would anyone like to to post their favoured man in both codes, and we can canvas opinions-odds on paddy power!!!!

Will it be a North Antrim man for the Hurling( 2 North Antrim Teams), will it be North Antrim for the football (2 City Teams), like to hear opinions and reasons for your choice. Skull- Milltown Row you lads seemed fairly clued in, whats your opinions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 04, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
TA you seemed to be a bit of a s**t kicker, why do focus on the referees, are you by chance a man in black yourself? The hurling has,nt finished Dunloy v Loughguile has yet to take place. I think your just trying to set some of the lads up for a major piss take!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2008, 02:09:17 PM
GNM beat Randalstown by a point in the intermediate last night I think.

Randalstown must be fairly improving as the gorts would most likely be favourites for that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 04, 2008, 04:23:13 PM
I got 3 tkts on ebay for £40.00 nicker each. in my hand now as i type with one hand . mate let me down as he can't go no-more . something about a hair cut . Any body need a spare tkt . £56.00 . asking price .  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2008, 06:13:58 PM
hurling referee. could be a choice of three. if Loughgiel are beaten by Dunloy they may well plum for Tommy Mcintyre, if they get to another final it may well be between Mr Mathews, decent referee ;) and my club man Garret Duffy

as for the football i'd say they may go for the Rasharkin referee who has done really well since he's been a referee (can't mind his name) though the Casement bosses may feel he's a bit early for it. i think he'd do well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 04, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
Owen Quinn is the referee from Rasharkin. The best up and coming ref in the game. A players referee if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2008, 06:34:01 PM
yes bannside good referee who was a good player untill injury got the better of him. but would casement take a gamble? i think not. who's in the running for it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 04, 2008, 09:26:22 PM
Was at an og sport final at St Teresas a few weeks ago and Owen was the ref. He was going straight on to Omagh for a Tyrone V Down masters game, and then back to Portglenone for an intermediate c`ship match. Refereeing three matches that day.

I`d say if you polled the players, Owen would be the one ref no one would object to. Think he has his time served, and a county senior final well within his capabilities. Def the best in Antrim at this stage in my humble opinion!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on September 04, 2008, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 04, 2008, 09:26:22 PM
Was at an og sport final at St Teresas a few weeks ago and Owen was the ref. He was going straight on to Omagh for a Tyrone V Down masters game, and then back to Portglenone for an intermediate c`ship match. Refereeing three matches that day.

I`d say if you polled the players, Owen would be the one ref no one would object to. Think he has his time served, and a county senior final well within his capabilities. Def the best in Antrim at this stage in my humble opinion!

Although owen is a good referee, best in antrim i doubt it.  I also dont think he is up to "final standard". Tommy McIntyre has got the linesman job in all ireland final.  If loughgiel are not in the final this year i think it will be him.  I agree with milltown, if loughgiel are in final mr matthews or duffy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 04, 2008, 11:10:27 PM
Well who knows? They threw one in last year or the year before tha no one expected? GR. The ref souldn't be part of the pre match discussion really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 05, 2008, 06:49:32 AM
Guillem2, would disagree with you, they are usually the main discussion after any major game. No one has mentioned Owen Elliott lads, i watched him in Dublin he is as good as matthews or Duffy having seen them all in the national League, as i said before, all 3 lads referee differently outside antrim, they tend to let it go a lot more, which is good. If they did the same in the final, and players respected it i think we will have a cracker. Think Mc Intyre needs to stand aside and let the younger lads sort it between themselves.

I fully support the Owen Quinn proposal, very fit and communicates to the players, would love to see him get it. Rasharkin deserve something after the semi i hear!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 05, 2008, 10:39:17 AM
Definitely have to agree with the sentiments on the 2 Owens - Elliot and Quinn.  Both very good younger referees who have a bright future ahead of them.  I know Owen Quinn had a tough call a couple of years back (maybe last year) on the U21 semi or final Cargin v Gort na Mona where he gave Gort a penalty to win the game at the death - i spoke to him about it afterward and he stuck by his guns - wasnt popular about Cargin for a while but i think they realised he is an honest ref and called it fairly.

Best of luck to them both and hope to see them get recognition for their talents.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 05, 2008, 01:45:19 PM
got my ticket sorted, train sunday morning for the usuall banter between the clubs. good craic and one common goal. getting pissed :P

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 05, 2008, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 05, 2008, 01:45:19 PM
got my ticket sorted, train sunday morning for the usuall banter between the clubs. good craic and one common goal. getting pissed :P

Aye got sorted too, lower canal  >:( Will try and shift that one to one of the rest of our party if i get a better one ! Had a missed call from Jurys Hotel, where we are staying, cant get the hold of them. They are either ringing to say we are the millionth customer and can stay in the presidential suite for free or they have overbooked and we can f*ck off !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 05, 2008, 02:02:53 PM
Hogan Stand lower tier,  along between the 45 and 21 yard lines, hopefully back enough if it is raining. think it is :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on September 05, 2008, 03:24:03 PM
Millltown hoe , have u got ur dubies sorted yet  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 05, 2008, 05:25:43 PM
minor Hurling final off tonight. good call as the weather is crap would be unfair to train all year and then be asked to play in those conditions. but the football final is to still go ahead.....after a pitch inspection
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 08, 2008, 10:51:37 AM
Worst final in years! At least it takes us off the record books.

On another note did anyone catch Watson's article in the Sunday Tribune at the weekend?
Anyone able to post it up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 08, 2008, 10:55:58 AM
http://www.tribune.ie/sport/article/2008/sep/07/kicked-to-touch/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 08, 2008, 11:14:20 AM
thanks Girt

THE EGO HAS LANDED - WHAT A COMPLETE CROCK!


Liam Watson claims Antrim used double standards in apparently dumping him for playing soccer

Past glories: Liam Watson in action for Antrim against Kildare, a sight he claims probably won't be seen again until there is a change in the county set-up inpho/donall farmerHe wants to finally put the record straight. It is the only reason why Liam Watson has decided to break his silence over his exclusion from the Antrim hurling squad.
On the day that hurling is the spotlight Watson is still coming to terms with being shunted off the game's centre stage.
But there will be no attempt by him to try and rebuild a relationship with the Antrim county set-up.

"As long as Terence McNaughton and Dominic McKinley are in control there is no chance of me ever thinking about pulling on an Antrim shirt. I don't suppose they are too fussed either way. They do their own thing.

"It has led to me being forced out of county hurling. Now all I want to do is concentrate on my club hurling with Loughgiel and make a career in Irish League football.

"When I look at the way I have been treated by Antrim perhaps concentrating on soccer, and having the respect that comes with playing in a professional setting, is something I should have done a lot sooner."

Watson's anger is matched by his frustration at the way he feels he has been unfairly labelled as a sports turncoat.

Earlier this year he was told he was surplus to requirements as far as the Antrim hurling hierarchy was concerned. The management team, with the backing of the county board, took an uncompromising stance.

It was thanks, but no thanks as far as Liam Watson's Antrim career was concerned. The move shocked many given the outstanding return the player had provided for the county during the last six years. Five Ulster titles, two Ulster under-21 titles and a Christy Ring Cup medal have already been salted away.

The official line was that Watson, because of his involvement in a summer soccer competition, had missed a crucial training session prior to Antrim's All Ireland qualifier against Galway. The Saffron's subsequent humiliating loss caused soul-searching and anger in the Antrim camp. Fingers were pointed.

The scapegoat was Watson. He was accused in many Antrim quarters of betraying the county cause. There are few worse crimes in the eyes of many GAA supporters than selling out your soul to soccer.

The allegations have hurt Watson. They have hurt his family and friends. At the start, he says, he couldn't be bothered to contradict the one-sided claims.

"If some people wanted to make up their minds without hearing the full story then that was up to them. All I wanted to do was let them get on with what they wanted to believe.

"They weren't aware of the truth. At the time I was so sickened by the way I had been treated that it was easier to keep quiet."

Liam Watson's version of events is vastly different from that placed in the public domain by Antrim.

He has no problem with admitting that he had missed the pre-Galway training session in order to play soccer. "That's the way it was. But what hasn't come out up to now is that the management in Antrim knew in advance that I wouldn't be available because of the overlap.

"Both Sambo and Woody were told about the clash. They said they were fine about the problem. They said they would be able to work around it. But I never felt they would work around it by dumping me from the panel. Maybe they want to concentrate on developing the Minors from the squad they had a few years ago.

"Maybe they feel that at 25 I haven't got what it takes any more, that I am getting on a bit. To use, however, soccer as the reason for questioning my commitment to Antrim is a joke.

"There were never any problems over the past couple of years when I was allowed to play soccer for Ballycastle United on a Saturday afternoon and then travel on to places like Waterford and Kilkenny for a hurling game the next day.

"I'll leave it to others to decide if a certain amount of double standards are part of the decision to now get rid of me. The truth is that I didn't walk away from Antrim. I was never warned to expect to be dropped for missing that training session."

Antrim and Ulster hurling has few individuals that could be bracketed among the best in the game. Watson however has consistently shown that when it comes to mixing with the elite of the game he has never been out of place. At just 25 he is the type of talented player that Ulster hurling needs to keep to the forefront of the sport. But instead of being the face of the game he has turned his back on county hurling. The choice, he stresses, was taken out his hands.

His commitment to the sport at club level remains absolute. However his objective is now to make a career as a striker in the Irish League with Donegal Celtic. A series of stunning pre-season displays for the West Belfast club, including outstanding displays against Celtic and Ipswich made the offer of professional terms a formality.

This afternoon he won't even bother to take the time to travel down to Dublin to watch the biggest spectacle in the hurling calendar. The pain of rejections still cuts deeply.

He is the player who has dominated the Ulster hurling scoring charts for the past three years. Last season he recorded the fourth highest average in the country, even in a mediocre team.

But those statistics are now part of the past. His primary objective is to help Donegal Celtic develop as a power.

The inevitable conclusion is that the real loser is Antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2008, 12:34:53 PM
Jesus Christ

This is one good reason not to believe anything you read in the papers. A laugh from start to finish. Was that article in the advertising section of the tribune?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 08, 2008, 05:44:34 PM
A Good question would be what would Brian Cody do with the likes of Watson.......I've a fair idea he would let him continue with his chosen career in LALA land.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 08, 2008, 06:38:55 PM
Anyone got any idea on who the writer is? not exactly great journalism to carry a story of a second rate intercounty hurler(lets face it thats what he is) in the build up to the biggest game of the year. Pretty pointless telling his story now, as for what Brian Cody wouldve done i think we all know that it wouldnt have been much of an issue, hed have been gone without a trace, but thats merely speculation,

Ahh well sure theres always Irish League soccer with Donegal Celtic.....





Oh thats right, Donegal Celtic arent even in the Irish League. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on September 08, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
lads really, what is all your problems with winker.  He was badly treated at the county so would you stay.  He is the best hurler in ulster atm and it is antrims loss, he'd also easily get on any team in the country.  What has donegal celtic got to do with it as well? use jealous or what lodds??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 08, 2008, 10:12:38 PM
I would say he's one of the best individuals in Ulster but what does that count for. He doesn't give a f£ck about anyone except himself, as much as he thinks the county shafted him he still got his all Ireland tickets courtesy of Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 08, 2008, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: MrT on September 08, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
lads really, what is all your problems with winker.  He was badly treated at the county so would you stay.  He is the best hurler in ulster atm and it is antrims loss, he'd also easily get on any team in the country.  What has donegal celtic got to do with it as well? use jealous or what lodds??

aye he definately would have been an addition to the kilkenny panel!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2008, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: MrT on September 08, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
lads really, what is all your problems with winker.  He was badly treated at the county so would you stay.  He is the best hurler in ulster atm and it is antrims loss, he'd also easily get on any team in the country.  What has donegal celtic got to do with it as well? use jealous or what lodds??

I agree with LM. He's one of the best individual hurlers in Antrim. He is a loss to Antrim. But when one of your most talented players decides to pick and choose what commitment he is willing to give, what would you expect should happen?....should management pander to such behaviour?

Catch yourself on you eejit and take your blinkers off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 08, 2008, 11:14:59 PM
Agreed totally, when i talk of talent hurling wise i am referring to team ethic and committment every bit as much as skill or ability. He is skillful yes of course but to play in a silly summer soccer game(for all the mention of Donegal Celtic in the article it wasnt actually them he was playing for it was a local team from ballymoney direction) over going to a pre championship training session is unforgivable. I could see how he would feel agrieved if the management had agreed to it as he claims and if that is the case then they have questions to answer but i doubt very much that they did.So how was he treated badly? it is such a badly constructed article it wouldnt take alot of effort to blow holes in his argument, he claims double standards? were are they? i could see his point if someone else on the team was missing training because they were playing soccer but wasnt kicked off the panel but that isnt the case. how exactly does anyone expect the management to react? The fact of the matter is that the world is full of talented individuals who fail to fulfill their potential for one reason or another and then point the blame at everyone else but themselves. He is no different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 09, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
I think the article is pure drivel and just exactly sums him up, everything is about him and not about the team he was supposed to play for or the guys around him including his own club men.

Oh and by the way turning up with drink on you to training doesnt exactly highlight a professional attitude to training, it shows the lack of respect he had for the panel, mentors and the supporters. If it wasnt over soccer it would have been something else that he walked away over.

Just thought it was an interesting article and agree that is was a really strange weekend to publish it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 09, 2008, 02:28:35 PM
I hate wasted talent but there is so much of it around. Shame he has ruled himself out under Sambo and Woody.
You read and you almost feel sorry for him but anyone with any shred of knowledge about his antics in the past should read it with that in mind. And NAG is right that it was some game for Limivady United I think...not Donegal Celtic in his new professional set up.
He is a gifted hurler and a joy to watch - I thought he would have grown out of being a petty, self-absorbed, trouble-making boy but it appears that is not the case.

NOW to the big match at the weekend...how are Dunloy shaping up Skull, Dunloy, Max Power?
Shamrock...any inside info?

Looking forward to it big time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on September 09, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
Training going well from what i hear. Its the biggest competition for places for a while. But ultimately its do or die for our lads. They need to stand up and be counted. Dunloy at present are the champions, favourites and imo the best team in the county. however the best team doesnt always win. We wont be far away, im confident that if a few lads stand up, we can turn our aul enemy over and go on and deliver the one we all crave!! I honestly believe we have the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2008, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on September 09, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
Training going well from what i hear. Its the biggest competition for places for a while. But ultimately its do or die for our lads. They need to stand up and be counted. Dunloy at present are the champions, favourites and imo the best team in the county. however the best team doesnt always win. We wont be far away, im confident that if a few lads stand up, we can turn our aul enemy over and go on and deliver the one we all crave!! I honestly believe we have the players.

Sounds like something you have been saying about yourselves for a few years now Shamrock  :-*. If you do believe you have the players then why not tell us you think they are the better team? Keeping the pressure off??

No matter. The best team "on the day" normally does win, so here's hoping for a cracking game on Sunday and the right result of course.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 09, 2008, 05:54:58 PM
To my knowledge it wasnt even Limavady United he was playing for, around these parts during the summer(the soccer off season june-july) there are several summer leagues, cups etc played. they dont actually involve teams which compete during the regular soccer season but more or less a gather up of players who just want a game, thats what he was playing in,anyways enough of my extensive soccer knowledge :D game on sunday im sure will be a good one, silly the way the semi finals were played so far apart but hey what do you do? All i hope is that its a free flowing game and the derby element is kept to a minimum, as i feel more often than not this lowers the standard of the hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 09, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
two games in Ballycastle this Sunday, in the first game the Clooney Gaels may have too much for St Pauls, very up and coming team and have made great strides this year, St Pauls still have a decent team but without training all year they will struggle.

the big game should be a cracker. by all accounts Dunloy are flying centenery year and although they may not say it it would mean a lot to win your Championship that year. with my own clubs coming up i'd say its a big motivating factor. Loughgiel, well thay have been trying to win for so long now i cant remember their last. they will always be up for this fixture and it's the first time in a few years that they have had a difficult game on paper for a semi-final.

i'm going for a shock here, Loughgiel by a point :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 09, 2008, 09:18:03 PM
how was it received in dunloy that a few of their players have been in santa ponza so close to the semi final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on September 10, 2008, 12:39:15 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on September 10, 2008, 11:54:12 AM
lads - lets stop going on about Watson. its his choice, let him get on with it. From our point of view he rarely lets us down on the big day. Dunloy - i hope he proves all you begrudgers wrong.

As for the best team "on the day" wins - well your probably right. But what i said the best team doesnt aways win i.e. its all on the day. Are Waterford better than Tipp, should portaferry have beat C'dall in Ulster final a few years ago. So at min Dunloy are best team. My argument is that that doesnt meanyou will beat us at weekend.

from all accounts, dunloy are talking themselves up - "were flying, our forwards are unstoppable at min, its our centennary, you lads will never beat us in a big game" all direct quotes from dunloy people i have spoke to in last week or so.So lets wait to Sunday - or maybe its all the "Windmill training" you have been doing ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 10, 2008, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on September 10, 2008, 11:54:12 AM
lads - lets stop going on about Watson. its his choice, let him get on with it. From our point of view he rarely lets us down on the big day. Dunloy - i hope he proves all you begrudgers wrong.

As for the best team "on the day" wins - well your probably right. But what i said the best team doesnt aways win i.e. its all on the day. Are Waterford better than Tipp, should portaferry have beat C'dall in Ulster final a few years ago. So at min Dunloy are best team. My argument is that that doesnt meanyou will beat us at weekend.

from all accounts, dunloy are talking themselves up - "were flying, our forwards are unstoppable at min, its our centennary, you lads will never beat us in a big game" all direct quotes from dunloy people i have spoke to in last week or so.So lets wait to Sunday - or maybe its all the "Windmill training" you have been doing ;) ;)


Your not talking to the same Dunloy folk i am, everyone in the club and around the team knows Sunday is a huge challenge and at this stage is a 50-50 game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 10, 2008, 04:13:02 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on September 10, 2008, 11:54:12 AM


should portaferry (Ballygalget you mean) have beat C'dall in Ulster final a few years ago.


The Dall got two soft goals at the start and then got another in the dying minutes and still got beat by 5 or 6 points so I hope you're not implying that it was a fluke or I'll set Dan the man on you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2008, 04:35:04 PM
You must drink in the village inn Shamrock if thats what your hearing. Dunloy are under no illusions about the game this weekend and I'm sure that the management will have them well prepared for it. Youre a wile man for trying to put some sort of pressure on the opposition. Championship is Championship, and it'll will all be about what happens on the day

As for everybody giving winker a break...you forget that it was him going public and sobbing to the press which brought about quite valid responses from throse who disagree with his version of events. He's a walking soap opera who needs the limelight, so I'm sure he'd be quite happy with any publicity good or bad.

Also, I'd love to know what he has to prove wrong to us  ???


Is that Donal Dan you're referring to JC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 10, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
Yes shamrock, most of the people on this board have been around the block a few times too many to be riled by the whole "everyone hates us, its us against the world" mentality you are trying to stoke up for yourselves for the game at the weekend. i for one doubt very much that you have been talking to any dunloy folk who would be coming out with drivel like you quoted, and if that is the case they arent very knowledgable on the subject. Everyone knows it will be a hard game and whatever happens happens, as for begrudging watson and being "proved wrong" im not so sure you are fully up to speed with anything that has been going on on this board but no one has questioned his ability, merely his attitude toward county hurling. as for the comments on "windmill training" as someone mentioned i wish i could help you out but i have no idea what that is? :D and with regards santa ponsa, there amateur sportsmen/women...there quite entitled to do whatever they wish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 10, 2008, 06:10:16 PM
One yellow and you're off

Paddy Russell referee
10 September 2008


The GAA wants to introduce a new disciplinary system which will see players who receive a yellow card being sent to the sideline, with teams allowed to introduce a substitute in their place.

The move is aimed at cutting down on disciplinary problems which have crept into both football and hurling in recent years. Counties will be asked to vote on the motion at the Special Congress this October.

Rather than go for a simple sin bin system which works well in both ladies football and rugby, the GAA have decided that players issued with yellow cards, be it a straight yellow card or a card on the basis of multiple ticking from the referee, will take no further part in the game. However, managers will be able to keep their teams at 15 a-side by introducing one of their six permitted substitutes.

Fouls which will be deemed 'Highly Disruptive' will see players taking no further part on match day as they will be issued with automatic yellow cards.

The full list of fouls which will be classified as 'Highly Disruptive' are:

- To pull down an opponent

- To trip an opponent with hand(s), foot or hurley

-To deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play

- To bring an arm (or hurley) around the neck of an opponent

- To wrestle with an opponent, on the ground, and away from the play

- To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official
On top of this a player who receives two showings of the black book from the referee will also dismissed with a yellow card, while three incidents of persistent fouling would also result in a yellow card.

just seen this on the Hogan Stand, what a load of balls, you'd have no players left!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2008, 06:43:16 PM
That looks ugly alright

We'll have american football ad breaks coming in in the middle of that. Understand the sentiment behind the proposals, but don't like it at all

Is it only being proposed in Antrim Hurling milltown or what?  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 10, 2008, 08:13:26 PM
i would imagine nationally first, Hurling RIP soon to be a non contact sport.....god help us.

is it to be dry on Sunday? would hate to head down and get a soaking. Ballycastle has a great set up, but even in the summers when the sun shone it was wild cold in the town
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on September 10, 2008, 10:40:22 PM
If this is true it will be a disaster! It deserves it own thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 11, 2008, 09:04:50 AM
Never mind having no players, you'll soon have no refs left. Even Einstein would find it hard to follow all that tripe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 11, 2008, 11:20:19 AM
That looks like trouble even before it is in place!

What about the weekend what are the key match ups, what will the winning and the losing of the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2008, 12:58:05 PM
Is Molloy fit for Dunloy? He hasnt played much this season? The two full forward lines look very dangerous & how each defence cope could be the winning of the match. Anyone gives us likely line-ups as both teams have alot of strength in depth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 11, 2008, 08:05:03 PM
Its been very quiet in Loughguile, its a tough call altough i feel Dunloy will just edge it, depends on Connor Cunning i think, if he gets into his stride and distribution is good, then the war is over, its vital for dunloy i think! One mistake on either side could cost the game. I see Ray Matthews is in the middle, good lad should keep it tight, and both teams respect him, my only concern which some lads have recently said that his fitness may be in question, hopefully this is BS and he lets the game grow, he wont take any verbals from either side, best man for the job.

So what are the predictions lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2008, 08:07:25 PM
no better man in the middle, was Ray not fit? oh when was he ever fit stayed in nets for most of his years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 11, 2008, 08:22:24 PM
Heard that he did,nt look as sharp as he used to, some boys said that he struggled at the Gortsv TNN game put some beef on, was he a keeper in his playing career MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
Was in goal for Rossa for years. Decent netminder in his day was Ray
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 11, 2008, 10:23:24 PM
Ray was quite prone to stopping the close range blockbuster but letting one go through his legs from 80 yards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2008, 10:36:53 PM
Let he who is without sin .........


mmmmm don't remember much of that chuck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 12, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
anybody know how many tickets their club got for the hurling final? i think we got 16 due to our sweep sales. usually get about 8 i think. i wonder what cushendun got.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 12, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
anybody know how many tickets their club got for the hurling final? i think we got 16 due to our sweep sales. usually get about 8 i think. i wonder what cushendun got.

Glenariffe got 5 oul s*itty Canal tickets, thats our usual allocation i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on September 12, 2008, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 12, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 12, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
anybody know how many tickets their club got for the hurling final? i think we got 16 due to our sweep sales. usually get about 8 i think. i wonder what cushendun got.

Glenariffe got 5 oul s*itty Canal tickets, thats our usual allocation i think.

St Johns must have gotten a handfull, 6 or 7 of their under 14's were running about the train to belfast playing hide and go seek! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 12, 2008, 12:19:09 PM
st johns as a dual club may have swapped football tickets for hurling tickets or else have alot of contacts in other places.

glenariffe always seem to have a good contingent going down as well. we also has a good few players on the county panel so this helped as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 12, 2008, 03:24:51 PM
we used to get a lot of tickets, our Sec. was going to Derry and Donegal for years and had great contacts. but this year we had to give the Sponsors some, which is fair enough. the usual suspects though get them every year. 6 Johnnies men behind me on the train and a load up in the first class part. then they had a crowd down at the sevens.

we are all heading down for the Sevens next week. staying over for the football. wont hunt for a ticket though. all the county boys should have tickets from county even the St Galls 4 ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 13, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
Antrim JHC Semi Finals 2008

Rasharkin 5-15 v 1-9 Ballymena   
Cloughmills 1-9 v 1-15 St. Teresas

Clash of colours for the final anyhow - Cloughmills surprised by St. Teresas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2008, 09:14:11 PM
na St teresas are a good team. Gorts win handy today at Milltown against Sarsfields will be strong for the final. Johnnies got roasted today by the Dall i hear. showing good form for championship. any reports Groundie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 14, 2008, 04:14:26 PM
IHC Semi-Final - Gaeil Chluana 1-13 v 3-12 St. Paul's - disappointing result for the 'Gaels - well done St. Paul's.

Gort na Mona v St. Pauls FINAL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 14, 2008, 04:15:27 PM
any word on the senior match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2008, 04:47:19 PM
Dunloy and Loughguile drew,replay on wed night in casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
Agree Hardstation,the venue suits the mc cooeys and blow ins a bit better. Dunloy let Loughguile back into it and it was a pretty poor match my source tells me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
The hurling wasn't great but it was a very exciting finish. Loughgiel could & probably should have knicked it at the end as Dunloy completely stopped for the last 20 minutes. I'd say Loughgiel will be favourites for the replay
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 06:52:28 PM
Loughgiel should have won it today. poor enough standard considering the talent on show. Winker missed a few chances which would have won the match. Dunloys older players were the difference with Ally Elliot still raking up the scores. and here in is the problem for Dunloy, as pointed out already dunloy stopped when they were 6 points up with twenty to go. fitness seemed to be with Loughgiel but they made hard work of their scores, while the dunloy scores came a lot easier.

great crowd down for the game, plenty of Frankies and chip eaters down also.

as for the refereeing lads, consistent with the over-carrying rule ::) and there was no real dirt in it. some off the 'Butt of the stick stuff' we talked about before but clean enough

who'll win the replay? i'm sticking to my original choice Loughgiel by a point

caught the second half of the St Pauls and Clooney Gaels match. good win for the Shaws Rd men, all Belfast final, Gorts V St Pauls.
no St Johns Ambulance men needed for that match :P :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 14, 2008, 07:18:55 PM
Fancied Dunloy to have more resolve with the centenary but with what little I have seen of the bodies this year they are playin with less reliance on winker who IMO has been their downfall for too long, not surprised they have rescued the game. Dunloy will relish another bite at them, they are developing a worrying trait where they have to be taken to the line before they buck up their ideas up.
Great result for the Shaws Rd men against a well fancied Clooney side,didnt think things werent looking good for them having been talking to some of their boys. Their footballers crashing out helped their cause
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 14, 2008, 07:33:52 PM
Anybody see the St.Teresa's v Cloughmills, heard The "T's" gave them a lesson in tactics to create space, something that Cloughmills have been trying to do themselves in recent time, 2 man full forward and all that crap(Slow full backs nightmare). Played them recently, thought their backs were solid and don't concede goals easily while their forwards are happy to revel in the space they manage to create and pop the points over, Philly Maguire brings the quality req'd to their forwards also. Rasharkin will be looking to avenge their defeat the last time they met in a junior final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 07:42:50 PM
tuesday as well hardstation, both under 16 belfast finals in hurling on, b and a finals. hope they dont run out of bulbs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2008, 08:20:13 PM
Poor poor game of hurling today, with Dunloy lucky to have a second chance. Couldn't win a pig in a poke on our puck outs in the last 20 minutes. It was no coincidence that our support play totally disappeared at this time. Replays normally have no relation to the drawn game so here's hoping for better second installment.

Also with all the wonga taken at the gate you would think that our county board could supply a few hurling balls. wtf

Saw the second half of the IHC match and was impressed with St Pauls. The three goals in the second half were well set up and finished, but they also defended well to boot. Should be a good final bwteen them and GNM although it would be great to see the likes of those club step up and be compeditive at senior level. Owen Elliott also refereed the game very well.

Didn't see many chip eaters myself milltown unless you spotted them all in mortons after the match  :). Fully expect them to show up in their droves on wed night  :) :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
talked about your good support play in the first half Skull but as you said it died a death in the second half. worrying that Loughgiel seemed fitter than yourselves. i think that will give them a boost. what did Ally finish with? Darren Quinn didn't  hit ball and when he had that chance he shite himself. dim dim was terrible. did the Loughgiel line out the way ya expected?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
No milltown....didn't think the balance looked right from the start and it may have played a part. I'm hoping pride will bring out some reserves of endurance because alot of our boys just didn't hurl today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on September 14, 2008, 08:52:22 PM
i agree milltown dim dim was terrible.  I expected shay Casey to start. thought James campbell did reasonably well in centre 3 for a young boy.  I doubt oul ally still got it, the more i think about his goal i think it was actually lethal! to swing on it in the air is hard to do.  I hear people talking about loughgiels shot in the dying minutes, i think ding hit it, the crowd went mad and dunloy keeper put his hands to his heads but umpire gave it a wide.  Does anybody have an opinion on that??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 14, 2008, 09:00:52 PM
It is not very often you could say it about them but I thought some of Dunloys decision making today was very poor. As has been alluded to earlier Dunloys puck outs were poor all day and in the second half evolved into hit every ball to Paddy Richmond at right half forward. The bodies quickly figured this out and swamped all Dunloys puck outs for the second half. On another point all day Dunloys backs were hitting sevnty- eighty yard clearances straight down the field into the hands of the Loughgiel backs who were very dominant in the air. When they did use the ball intelligently or run at the loughgiel backs Dunloy had much more success. Paul Shiels got one pass in the second half took a good score and then was ignored for the rest of the game ???
As for Loughgiel once again the half backs and midfield were very good and on top for most of the game. Someone said earlier that Loughgiel were less reliant on Watson this year but I am afraid I have to disagree with that, out of 14 scores for Loughgiel today Watson got 10 or 11, mainly frees but he won a lot of them himself. I was surprised that Loughgiel kept Watson inside for the whole game where he was somewhat starved of ball and while the half forward line was shooting chronic wides in the last 10 minutes. I think Loughiel will rue the missed chances in the last 10 minutes Dunloy by three in the replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2008, 09:10:16 PM
Yes SCB, loughgiel's HB line did a good job at swamping our puckouts but where was our second man on the breaking ball. They just weren't there. Serious soul searching if we are going to turn around the performance of the last twenty minutes. Loughgiel will be be the happier going into Wednesday (alright shamrock  :-*)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2008, 09:26:58 PM
Skull someone was telling me gareth mcghee was at the match as a spectator,is he injured ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 14, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
Dunloy Loughgeil
Thought Loughgeil should have won this in the end to be honest. They started going for goals too early but actually didn't panic in the end and it was a point by Ding Gillan, as admitted by the Dunloy keeper. Them are the breaks. Winker wasn't really allowed to let loose and was well shackled but a player of his class still comes out with a good few points. Not sure what way it will go...will arguably depend on Loughgeil's reaction - will they leave it behind? Dunloy looked very good in patches.
Thought Ray Matthews did rightly. Thought he was getting quite yellow card friendly near end of 1st half but generally he kept things under control in a game that was hard but not overly dirty.
He and his linesmen did spot and book anyone seen hitting with the butt of the hurl. Good stamping that out! (following from our earlier conversation). As much shouldering and manoeuvring for position as possible should be allowed but digging someone in the ribs with the hurl is an act of cowardice (in my opinion)

St Pauls Clooney
Caught the end of this. Surprised by the result having seen both this year but agree the footballers going out will have helped St Pauls. Was told the corner forward (forget his name) bagged 3 goals. Did the same on the occasion I saw him earlier in the year

St Theresa's Cloughmills
Spot on Last Man. Cloughmills given a lesson in tactics and there wasn't a quick enough reaction. St T's dropped a man back into half back line who cleared an awful amount of ball. Philly Maguire was in midfield but played very well. Cloughmills will rue this one, beat in last 4 semi finals. Young enough team so will hopefully bounce back.
If St Theresa's play the way they did they will beat Rasharkin. Good young team and going for a junior double.
Was not impressed at all by the referee Reilly - very very fussy and didn't let the game flow. He could do with watching Matthews/Elliott. Game never really got going due to alot of soft frees, for both sides. Doesn't help the state of Antrim hurling when a good honest hard tackle is constantly met with a free!

Predictions
Dunloy
Gorts
St Theresa's

Though could well be wrong on all of them!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 09:32:54 PM
na mrT ball was wide, thought Dunloy were strolling it up to that point (20 mins) even when Loughgiel got the goal Dunloy went out and scored 4 unaswered points to go 6 up!!! Loughgiel didn't change their game plan Dunloys support play stopped, and they tired. think winker took himself out to win ball, which he did. so begs the question, if ya stop Winker will ya win?

Whose panel was the strongest? could the lines (management) have won the game?

looking forward to not traveling 100 miles on wed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 14, 2008, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: MrT on September 14, 2008, 08:52:22 PM
i agree milltown dim dim was terrible.  I expected shay Casey to start. thought James campbell did reasonably well in centre 3 for a young boy.  I doubt oul ally still got it, the more i think about his goal i think it was actually lethal! to swing on it in the air is hard to do.  I hear people talking about loughgiels shot in the dying minutes, i think ding hit it, the crowd went mad and dunloy keeper put his hands to his heads but umpire gave it a wide.  Does anybody have an opinion on that??


From where I was standing ( about half way line on the town side terrace ) I thought it was wide. Young campbell took his goal well although it was a poor pass out of defence to set him up. What age is young campbell by the way, he looks about 14!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 14, 2008, 09:47:25 PM
It looked wide from where I was but he Dunloy keeper (in a better position than us all) said it went over.

If Winker is stopped I think Loughgeil would be beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
great venue Ballycastle, is it the best in the county? what will Dunloys be like once finished?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
Suprised Darren Quinn started in place of either Sean Dowds or Paddy Doc & thought that Dowds would have came on. Dunloy never got any ball into Ally in the 2nd half who was looking very dangerous, same applies for Shorty too. Conor Cunning had a good game, very intelligent in possesion & strong in the tackle. Winker(for all his faults) took some superb scores when able to get on the balll. Loughgiel must be worried as they still relied on them heavily. Joey Scullion was poor, as was Dim Dim. Duck McFadden had a pretty good game on Paddy Richmond who was pretty poor

Minder, think McGhee has been working away...the young keeper done well & was very safe in his handling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2008, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 14, 2008, 09:26:58 PM
Skull someone was telling me gareth mcghee was at the match as a spectator,is he injured ?

Not injured Minder, just didn't commit this year. Very happy to have Gabby minding for us though. Puck outs could be a hair longer but he's a young lad who's been steady as a rock for us this year. HIS attitude is 100% to boot. He'll lengthen his puck outs as he fills out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 14, 2008, 10:03:01 PM
The problem today was not the length of the puck out but the predictability. A few short ones to the half back line would not have gone amiss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on September 15, 2008, 12:05:01 AM
From where I was standing ( about half way line on the town side terrace ) I thought it was wide. Young campbell took his goal well although it was a poor pass out of defence to set him up. What age is young campbell by the way, he looks about 14!!
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id say james campbell is about 18 or 19.  He was minor last year so what ever way that works out.  Havnt got my thinking cap on at the min. ???
Both scullions were poor.  I thought skinner was probably shamrocks best player.
So glensman your telling me dunloy keeper said it was over?? uch well what can you do now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 15, 2008, 02:26:51 PM
dissapointing and extremely uncharacteristic of us to throw away such a winning margin and in the end to be lucky to escape with a draw.  Don't think any Dunloy an was terribly dissapointed to hear the final whistle as there looked to be only one team hurling at the end.

We had ten minutes either side of half time where we went on top and didn't really drive home our advantage, created a few half chances for goals but didn't seriously trouble DD and gave away cheap frees. 

as for the last shot by Ding, no question at all it was wide, i had the perfect view and to be honest i couldn't understand the furore as too me it was clearly wide.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2008, 06:26:44 PM
after that game would Cushendall be favourites for the final? seems they are coming into the game with a bit of form. have Dunloy peaked too early? and could Loughgiel finally deliver? all these questions and more to be answered in the coming days.

on another note. the Dunloy keeper, is he under 21? and the loughgiel number 11 is he also under 21?  just that Ray was wanting the Dunloy keeper to wear a helmet, as all under 21's must wear helmets with a face guard. the loughgiel number 11 took his off during the game. was Ray being picky, and what was that thing tied to his face? was he in contact with the Chairman, ensuring a draw??????

i see no referee has been fixed for it yet, and generally they dont use the same referee. will it be Owen or Garret?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on September 15, 2008, 10:24:14 PM
Just after reading through all the posts about yesterdays game. Some good debate and some rubbish as well :D from our point of view we didnt perform for a good part of the game. the last 17 minutes of game was one way traffic. Like my dunloy friends said, we were winning all the 50 50 balls and turning ball at a serious rate. Dunloy were there for the taking and in my opinion still are. Our lads have come away very confident and know mentally they can match the dunloys. on the other hand theres prob no way paddy richmond will be held scoreless again and they wont score for 20 minutes. And as skull says there will be some soul searching for them to do. They have been through this before and im sure they will come out a different animal on wed night. But i honestly feel that if our lads dont freeze, we will squueze through with the game going to the wire. Id like to see a few of our younger lads thrown on with 10 to go to freshen it up and run at dunloys tiring legs - Tony mcCloskey, McKillop etc.

Two nights in a row to casement - expensive week for us folk!

Will dunloy change their line up??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 16, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
Agree with most of whathas been said on the game at the weekend, I have to say that for a team like Dunloy to only score 1.13 and still not be beaten is unusual in the extreme. I dont think anyone who scored 1.13 would expect to win a championship match. Credit to loughgiel they seemed to have their homework done on the game, and it nearly worked out for them. This reminds me alot of the ulster semi-final last year when ballycran drew with dunloy after having them on the rack.
IMO if dunloy are able to improve their work rate they should be ok, because there is no way that loughgiel will be able to restrict their forwards as easily on wednesday night. If loughgiel can produce what they did in the last 15mins again for 45-50 then they could get over the line.

Anyone else seriously disappointed with the standard of refereeing, I have said before on this board that i dont like criticising referee's but I couldnt not mention the performance on sunday. Again he was blowing the petty insignificatn fouls and letting Watson and others (only singling him out cause he was the worst offender) away with murder when swinging on the dropping ball, he was early and low on most attempts and not a word said. It is these dangerous fouls that arent being pulled up that dont do our game any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
Gald you pointed it out NAG

you'd nearly think winker is a great servant too antrim hurling the way referee's protect him.  i counted twice he struck his man on the hand at the top of the hurl as he caught the ball (thats some 30 -36'' from the ball) which should have resulted in his second booking.  but that was never for happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2008, 10:17:59 AM
Can anybody else remember liam watson in the UHL final in cloughmills at the end of last year? He only apears to get booked for niggling/off the ball offenses, when it's  under a dropping ball where he's at his most trecherous yet I've never seen him penalised fir it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Colonel Cool on September 16, 2008, 10:35:32 AM
What time is the replay in Casement tomorrow?

Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2008, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cool on September 16, 2008, 10:35:32 AM
What time is the replay in Casement tomorrow?

Thanks.

7.45pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on September 16, 2008, 01:35:41 PM
how much is it into the match tomorrow??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
match at 7:45pm Owen Elliott to referee and £6 in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 16, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
A reasonably fair analysis on the match from you all(for the best part anyway), personally i thought we were terrible but for maybe two 10 minute spells(one in first, one in the second half), i cant remember who it was but someone mentioned earlier we have fallen into a bad habit of letting teams back into games and not finishing teams off and i have to agree with that totally, realistically we should never have won ulster last year because of this problem. I'm going to stick my neck on the line here and say we will win tomorrow night. I just feel that after our past 2-3 games(which we won extremely comfortably) a bit of complacency set in and we were expecting things to come as easily to us again. We never matched Loughgiel for work rate or intensity and they probably should have stolen it at the death, i can see why they will be full of confidence for the replay but we will not be short in the respect either, looking at it from a Dunloy point of view we played for about 20 minutes, only scored 1-13 yet Loughgiel still couldn't beat us, and on top of that we were never behind bar the first 10 minutes. There is also the fact that 3 of our forwards were on holidays prior to the game and that is always going to have a negative effect on the individuals concerned, it'll give them a chance to get back up to speed, with that in mind and the fact everyone else should have given themselves a shake i cant see Loughgiel out doing us in terms of intensity and hunger this time. Dunloy to win by 5 :oAs for the ref again agree 100%, i thought he was a shambles and his preferential treatment of "county stars" is just the most horrible sight, he was constantly laughing and joking with winker and was also being overly pally with Malachy Molloy, i cannot stand that kind of refereeing as the minute he makes it a personal thing it gets in the way of the job in hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
I see our county secreatry has been certified as on eof the GAA's new Tutor Trainers along with Jim Darragh. Are these paid roles?

http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=544485&xpos=0#bottom (http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=544485&xpos=0#bottom)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 17, 2008, 12:10:11 AM
hard to strike a balance though Dunloy, we want players to respect the referee and as players we hate if the referee comes across as being arogant and making himself the main attraction, NOW we dont like referees who know players by their names and sharing a joke with them  ??? ???

i understand where youre coming from as i was at the game. but the reality is this, Ray has not a care in the world as to who wins/loses or draws as was the case on Sunday. there was some things that annoyed both teams i'm sure. everyone sees it different and calls it differently.

Owen to do it tonight, did a fair job in the Inter. semi on sunday.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 17, 2008, 10:56:11 AM
Johnnies under-16 saw off Rossa by 4 last night.  The referee had a good game by all accounts. :)

Honestly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 17, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
Yes i agree, a balance is hard to reach and also agree that i hate referees who display arrogance, i just feel sometimes county players during club games are treated different in antrim to those 'regular' club players, saw a serious case of this in our first round of the football championship were Geard Dougan done pretty much everything for Paul Doherty and Benny Hasson bar give them a hug and kiss :D :D, preferably a referee would be almost robot like, he has a job to do and like the players themselves, any friendships etc shouldnt be carried on to the field of play.

as for tonight, Happy enough with the ref, just hope we turn up now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 17, 2008, 05:59:06 PM
it seems there is a lot of money being pumped into tomights game, paddy power had Loughgiel at 3/1 to win tonights game. its been dropped to 15/8 now. bookies running scared or over confident Loughgiel supporters?

any final thoughts? suppose by now the villages up north will be heading south towards the big smoke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2008, 08:30:37 PM
Dunloy 0-5 Loughguile 0-7 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on September 17, 2008, 09:13:25 PM
any full time score anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
Loughguile 0-16 Dunloy 0-9 ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 17, 2008, 09:21:08 PM
Dunloy finished with 13 men during " a great game of hurling but very hard " according to a loughgiel fan. Were loughgiel seriously at 3/1 for this match? That is a serious c**k up by paddy power if they were, this was always going to be a tight affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2008, 09:30:45 PM
The dismissals had no bearing on the outcome,they were near the end. I havent seen a Dunloy team stoop to oul dirty pulls like that before. Loughguile were the best team by a mile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glenullinabu on September 17, 2008, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 17, 2008, 09:30:45 PM
I havent seen a Dunloy team stoop to oul dirty pulls like that before.

tell that to the kevin lynches players ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 17, 2008, 10:51:20 PM
this was serious match. ye would have needed 5 sets of eyes to keep up, thought the intesity by both teams early on was top class. but by the 20th minute there was only going to be one winner, sharper to the ball and won all the breaks Loughgiel fully deserved this match, the roar from the stand was mighty. great craic. sad to see the strokes from the lads who were sent off. passions were running high and though tough at times it certainly made for a great match.

impossible to referee a game like that and Owen got most things in the match. though winkers pull on the dunloy boys head was seen coming from the Glen road!!!!

now Loughgiel have a big game ahead to stop the rot, 6 in a row is not what they are looking for. but it could happen a lot of the players took big hits during the match. hope the hurling is on before our game v Lamhs. Cant watch a hurling match before a football zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 17, 2008, 11:20:57 PM
Loughgeil deserved to win full stop, hungrier and better this evening.
Things never fell for Dunloy but in all honesty "the harder you work, the luckier you get" and Loughgeil deserved those breaks.

Agree that the dismissals had no bearing whatsoever, but in my opinion aside from the wild pull from Kevin Martin, which was coming (did Loughgeil not know) and he derserved to walk and a long ban, Dunloy were not as guilty as Loughgeil.

In my opinion (again) James McKeague's tackle on Watson was a booking. Watson moved inside him and McKeague reached out and caught his midriff. Booking.
McKeague is not a dirty player in the slightest.

After 5 minutes Johnny Campbell swung round Connor Cunning's head, plain and simple.
After about 15 Winker swung round Mickey McClements face plain and simple. If he wasn't wearing a facemask this evening his would be getting his face rearranged.
I would love to watch the game again and for the referee to watch it again. I would not have lied to referee that one whatsoever...there was so much going on I didn't know where to look.

Dunloy had no answer for the intensity and that spark like a Richmond goal never came for their supporters.


Loughgeil arguably favourites for the final now then?
Their supporters will be hard to take - "Shemrocks" still ringing in my ears!!
Advice to Cushendall - get to the stand in Casement and get there earlier and keep them eejits from banging the back of the stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2008, 11:44:52 PM
Where do I start...absolutely gutted

First off I'm in total agreement with Minder. I hope Glenuliinabu actually elaborates on the quip he's made cause I have no idea what he's talking about......help me out. Was the most sickening part of the night getting two sent to the line. The first for to me was a second yellow (but with intent) and the second well.....I think it spoke volumes about where we got it wrong tonight. We got drawn in to a dog fight and forgot totally about hurling. No one can tell me that dunloy aren't better than that, but over the last two games we were pretty poor, so really we should have no complaints. beaten by the hungrier team.

Actually enjoyed the way owen elliott tried to let the game flow. Yes it was hot and heavy and he did miss some pretty rash exchanges (no more than barry kelly in the AI final to be fair), but he treated them like adults throughout and wasn't fussy at all, so I say well done.

Good luck in the final. After the match tonight I'm afarid I'm going to have to give you the favourites tag
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on September 18, 2008, 07:22:40 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 17, 2008, 11:20:57 PM
Loughgeil deserved to win full stop, hungrier and better this evening.
Things never fell for Dunloy but in all honesty "the harder you work, the luckier you get" and Loughgeil deserved those breaks.

Agree that the dismissals had no bearing whatsoever, but in my opinion aside from the wild pull from Kevin Martin, which was coming (did Loughgeil not know) and he derserved to walk and a long ban, Dunloy were not as guilty as Loughgeil.

In my opinion (again) James McKeague's tackle on Watson was a booking. Watson moved inside him and McKeague reached out and caught his midriff. Booking.
McKeague is not a dirty player in the slightest.

After 5 minutes Johnny Campbell swung round Connor Cunning's head, plain and simple.
After about 15 Winker swung round Mickey McClements face plain and simple. If he wasn't wearing a facemask this evening his would be getting his face rearranged.
I would love to watch the game again and for the referee to watch it again. I would not have lied to referee that one whatsoever...there was so much going on I didn't know where to look.

Dunloy had no answer for the intensity and that spark like a Richmond goal never came for their supporters.


Loughgeil arguably favourites for the final now then?
Their supporters will be hard to take - "Shemrocks" still ringing in my ears!!
Advice to Cushendall - get to the stand in Casement and get there earlier and keep them eejits from banging the back of the stand.

:D :D :D Do you not think it gives the game much more of an atmosphere!!

Lads there was niggling all over the show, so i dont really think we can single certain people out.   Neilly mcgarry and dick o kane (i think ???) were knocking lumps out of each other just as the ball was being thrown in.

Owen elliott wasnt the worst last night at all, was pretty impressed with him as i would say it was a tough game to keep control of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 18, 2008, 08:23:37 AM
Towards the end of the first half the ref summed it up when he shouted across the field - 'We're here to hurl not cry!'


Cracking atmosphere last night & was thrilling to watch, first half in particular.  Thought Johnny Campbell was excellent in the first half, & Liam McKillop & James Campbell in the 2nd.  Better team won.  Will this be the end for some of the Dunloy 'oul boys' or will they want another whip at it next year?

Also couldn't believe Loughgiel were 3/1 when I checked yesterday.  Was told at the weekend they were the same price for the first game but didn't bother having a fluter.  I sure did yesterday!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2008, 08:42:03 AM
Eh Girt liam mckillop came on in injury time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Colonel Cool on September 18, 2008, 09:03:18 AM
Surprising result but it sounds like they were well worth it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 18, 2008, 09:07:16 AM
No came off in injury time...

I was sitting beside his mate in the stand! When I first asked who it was that's who he said!  As did other folk i heard who constantly shouted out his name when in possession.

If it wasn't him was it Shea Casey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2008, 09:16:14 AM
I wonder do some fellas ever engage their brain (assuming they have one) before opening their mouth at matches, there was a player down receiving treatment and some retard shouted "i hope his necks broke", it was probably the first or second match he was at all year and would be better suited sitting in a pub somewhere watching the Celtic match. Its an element that is creeping into Gaa matches that we could do without. The same fella probably wouldnt know what end of a hurl to use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 18, 2008, 09:20:15 AM
Niggling all well and good, swinging round people's heads?!

Best team won, no doubt.
Owen Elliott loves a good one liner during a match. Have often seen him saying something which he thinks his funny and runs on chuckling to himself!
All in all his tactic of letting the game go seemed to generally work, the pace of the first 5/10 minutes couldn't be kept out so the game settled a bit...a few dangerous pulls aside.

Not one clear cut goal chance as far as I can remember.
Think Shea Casey started and Liam McKillop came on for him.
Rather strange throwing a minor in there with boys knocking lumps out of each other and their final tonight!

Still ringing in my ear..."Shemrocks"...
Get to the stand early Gort Na Mona tonight!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 18, 2008, 09:31:00 AM
Agree Minder

It was easy to get caught up in the game last night (my head still hurts trying to concentrate on everything and think I have a crick in my neck from moving to see where the next schmoozle was).

However, its only when you sit back or even where you have an impartial viewer with you that you fully realise the extent of some of the things that are said/shouted.

Now the game itself is the best game in the world and I was commenting last night if you through a purley soccer follower in there they couldn't help but love it but when people overstep the mark it is disgusting.

It may have equally happened if Loughgeil men had been sent off (I would guess) but some of the things that were shouted at the two Dunloy players as they walked off wouldn't even be allowed to be heard in most pubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
I truely hope Liam Watson does not have a broken jaw. Just as I hope Mickey McClements skull isn't fractured from the "abuse" he took last night.

The reality is Cass that Loughgiels "style" of play brings out an over aggressiveness to the game. While it worked for youse to a large degree, it can also be to your detriment. Live by the sword and all that......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 18, 2008, 10:23:15 AM
Gutted

a lazy analysis would be that Dunloy didn't have the fitness of their near rivals, a brief look at the flow of the two games would give this credence, we seemed to run out of steam in ballycastle and the short recovery time meant our 'older' legs just ran out of steam earilier in the vast expanse of Casement.  This is however to mask the shortcomings of Dunloy this week.

In reality the fitter team yes, but also the hungrier, the more aggressive, the better systems and methods and the more accurate team will go on to contest a county final.  Dunloy can have no complaints and the referee unlike Sunday, had a fine game with so much happening.

If Cushendall are to ensure Loughgiel complete a 6 in row they will seriously need to look at the roles played by both Winker and JC who certainly make them tick, the system loughgiel play has changed somewhat will less ball directed at watson and with the other forwards charged with winning ball and looking to him for the off load.

I have also heard this morning that watson has a broken jaw, in the two matches it was he who pulled the dirtiest strokes, in the drawn game he got booked for doing exactly what kevin martin did, struck with the hurl to the midrift. had a couple of wild pull in the air and that mad swing last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 18, 2008, 11:09:16 AM
Not having been at the match, I can't give my own opinion, but I have heard second hand that the pulling was "hot and heavy" to say the least.

What is the story with winker? if he is out for the final, it will be some loss for Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 18, 2008, 11:13:56 AM
Sorry, meant to have this in my post as well . . . .

Have been reading with interest the debate on this board and elsewhere about Antrim refs being too whistle happy compared to their counterparts further south.

Have to say I agree that the stop/start "ah ref that's a f***ing free" stuff doesn't do the game as played in antrim any favours.

Would be interested in people's views as to the balance struck by the ref last night - did he let too much go or did he simply "let the players play"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 11:25:29 AM
He let a wee bit too much go cloot (emphasis on the wee bit), but you (I) could see that be was trying to let the match flow and not be overly fussy. I would blame the players for over stepping the mark rather than the referee for any of the over heated stuff.

I thought he had a great game myself. Up to other referees and more importantly players to get used to this let the game flow philosohy, which can only benefit us in the long run
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on September 18, 2008, 01:05:41 PM
Im not going to start gloating ;) ;)

The best team won. Like a few of you have said, we were certainly fitter, hungrier and that old cliche we wanted it more. To be fair thats a monkey off our back. We havent put dunloy out of the championship in 20 years so mentally it was a massive win.

But we are only in the final - and have nothing won. Having spoke to a couple of players today - theres a big change from previous years. You can see we are playing to a system, which never happened before so the management derserve praise there. But Cushendall will be a diff proposition in the final.

They will be favourites as they "know how to win finals" and we don't.

Thought ref was good, fair and let things go. As for the last 10 mins, i wont make much comment. Dunloy let themseloves down and deserve the crap that comes with it. Some of the slaps, tackles were a disgrace and if the shoe was on the other foot we would be getting slated!

By i wont complain - we are where we want to be.

Another big night tonight - minors play Gort Na Mona - the club is buzzin at min - sop hopefully that can drive the lads on tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 01:25:11 PM
Not quite sure how you know that to be true, but it still has nothing to do with the points I made. I think everybody else understand's it so I'm not going to waste my time spelling it out to you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
Gloat away Shamrock.... you've every right to...the better team won

But don't come on here taking the high moral ground. Yes in was poor form and very uncharacteristic (you failed to mention that) but we're not the club that has shown that type of indicipline year in year out. Problem was that Dunloy lowered themselves last night to a level others are well used to.

Enjoy your victory 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 18, 2008, 01:45:16 PM
Shamrock, I've sent you a PM if you could get back to me next time you are online if possible it would be great!

Ta in advance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 18, 2008, 01:48:09 PM
its not three months since the shamrocks had 3 men sent off against us so to come on hear slating our discipline is a wee bit hypocritical. This is my last comment on this as i will only come across bitter and ungracious (maybe i am) but i hate, absolutely detest, the way some of your players think its hard to flick people in the manly regions then fall to when the inevitable belt back comes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 01:50:54 PM
Again Dunloy lowered themselves to the oppositions level. You might want to remember who the aggressors were that day and other days where we did not bite

Are you disputing the widely held view over this past 20 years that Dunloy were one of the cleanest teams to play the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 18, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
Cass

I think you'll find that Dunloy has probably one of the top disciplinary records of any team of any level in the county.They have represented antrim and ulster with distinction at the very top level.

I think your glasses may be a bit darker than most if you cant admit to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 18, 2008, 02:06:28 PM
Your going to be some addition to this discussion board going by your first few posts.

Having been at the game and sundays match, I would say there was very little 'hurling' played in either game, the only hope loughgiel had of beating dunloy was to drag them down and turn it into a dog fight which they did so fair play to them.

The two sendings off were unfortunate, mckeague was unlucky as it was a genuine attempt at a tackle and i didnt see the other one id say along with most other people in casement.

Dunloy have set the standard for hurling over the past 20 years and most teams are still playing catch up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: Cass on September 18, 2008, 01:59:24 PM
Nag and Skull I wont be knocking Dunloy in that respect. Absolutley not! But dont be painting a story of poor dunloy bring dragged down into playing some type of foriegn game. They were totally out played last night in the fine skillful game of hurling

If I believe it Cass and all the evidence (i.e Dunloys discipline record over the past 20 years balanced against Loughgiels over the past 20) backs it up then I've every right to defend attacks from the likes of yourself regarding Dunloys reputation on the hurling pitch.

Yes they were outplayed by a hungrier and fitter team. But if you call the game last night a "fine skillful game of hurling" you are only showing up your own lack of knowledge of the game.
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2008, 04:05:00 PM
NAG I think you're being a bit harsh on Loughgiel by effectively saying that the only hope was to bring them down to their level. Over two games Dunloy failed to beat them. I personally wasn't too worried who won but there is not much between the two teams. Dunloy last year were too good for Loughgiel however in hurling or dogfight ability that was not the case this year. Loughgiel have definitely improved on last year.

The boys that could win them the game were that year older and dare I say it slower. In saying that Ally Elliot , in his five or so minute burst on Sunday, was a good a player as on the pitch.

Everyone at some time or another loses their discipline. It's fair to comment on it but it is out of character as you go player for player and not much dirt in that Dunloy team. Some people seem to take great pleasure in these things but I don't think that Shamrock was one of them to be fair to him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2008, 04:58:29 PM
Was at the two games, and thoroughly enjoyed them both. No doubt the best team won, fitter, hungrier and sharper all over the pitch. The final should be a cracker.

I would be a football man mostly, but also love a good game of hurling too, and I have a question for some of you diehard hurling men. Was the intensity and fitness levels seen last night not a different level from what we say in some of the same players when they played inter county championship earlier in the year? The Down game was like played in slow motion compared to last night, I thought. Joe Cassidy must be given some credit for this.

Secondly, have to say that Watson is on a different planet, talent wise to anything else in the province. Like him or not he is a real star, and worth the admission money alone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 18, 2008, 05:32:12 PM
Watson's "pull" halfway through the first half was fair. Happened right in front of me. He beat his man to the ball, pulled and , most importantly, played the ball before making contact with his marker. Loughiel were far, far superior on the night. The Loughiel 17 who came on initially as a blood sub should have walked almost immediately- he ducked, didn't even look at the ball ad swung over his head!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 18, 2008, 05:38:03 PM
Just to say "excellent game of hurling", missed Sunday,s had to go home for the weekend, what a treat to watch! Well done Owen Elliott, hate to say it guys, you all leveled criticism on Elliott/Duffy/Matthews told you, their experience doing National games is at last comming through, a referee in Dublin would be able to dine out for free on that game for the next 12 months!

Hope the final serves up the same type of contest! Who will be the man in the middle for that one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 05:43:54 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2008, 05:32:12 PM
Watson's "pull" halfway through the first half was fair. Happened right in front of me. He beat his man to the ball, pulled and , most importantly, played the ball before making contact with his marker. Loughiel were far, far superior on the night. The Loughiel 17 who came on initially as a blood sub should have walked almost immediately- he ducked, didn't even look at the ball ad swung over his head!

I don't know of anyone who thought it was a free gallsman, but you are telling me that you didn't see the intent to get something on the man (possibly the main intention)? I've seen him at this too many times to know that that pull wasn't simply an unfortunate blow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 18, 2008, 05:50:05 PM
I can't honestly say. I'm well aware of his chequered past, but he didn't retaliate after the first slap he took so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt this time. He then took that stick shoved in his face and played the next ball. Whether there was intent or not, he f**king disguised it well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 05:52:28 PM
You can have my rose tinted spectacles. You'll definately see it with those the next time.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2008, 06:10:19 PM
sorry clubman i also was watching that tackle and he pulled on the man, getting the ball was lucky. Now its fair to say that Watson takes a lot of abuse during games, the star players usually do. but Watson does have a sly pull on him, you can ask any amount of players be they club players or county players (simon wilson got it on the same side of casement playing for Down one year)

means thats another year that Tommy wont referee a county final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 18, 2008, 06:24:00 PM
What can i say other than that im absolutely shellshocked, we simply got out-everything'ed(yes i just made that word up), out fought, out thought, out hussled, Loughgiels intensity was far superior and all in all they just wanted it more. We are simply to used to winning games by 20-30 point margins and playing nice stylish hurling and didnt know what to do when loughgiel made it clear they wouldnt allow us to dictate the game, thought they were great(imagine), the biggest compliment i can pay them is that they played the game lastnight like a good football team. Watson was superb but have to say my man of the match would have been Jonny Campbell, thought he was the main force behind them and turned an unbelievable amount of ball. The discipline at times(from both teams) was disgraceful and that sort of thing needs to be eradicated. Driving the stick into someones mid section is a dangerous action, whats more it is a cowardly action and both sets of players were guilty. Anyway good luck in the final to Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 18, 2008, 08:42:44 PM
MR, how many finals has Tommy done? Does anyone know? And i hear your debt was a successful one, how did you get on! Missed all this as i was back in the Capital City, going back down tomorrow to go on the lash and finish off in Pairc an Chrocaigh, got top class tickets back home at the weekend! what a week for Gaa! Excellent does the heart good!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2008, 08:43:43 PM
Who was doing the booting HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
and who was telling ya that Davinci? easy thing, that refereeing :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 18, 2008, 10:23:09 PM
Gort na Mona are a very progressive club and should be congratulated on getting to the minor final. I wasnt at either matches this week but I would have liked to see Gorts win the minor. They haddened a great name years ago but now have some great hurling men putting in a lot of work.

Maybe next year or the year after? Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2008, 11:49:36 PM
According to bbc news watson got a broken jaw last night - what happened there??

If he misses the final wouldn't be too sure Loughgiel can win it...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 19, 2008, 08:42:52 AM
Watson will b playing,dont worry about that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 19, 2008, 08:44:30 AM
Div 2-3 of the league is getting interesting. Ballycran will win it as expected but around the middle theres great competition. There's 5 strong sides fighting for 2 places in Div 2 next year - Glenarm, Carey, St Paul's, Armoy & Lamb Dhearg. Should be some interesting games over the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 19, 2008, 09:16:54 AM
IF and I mean IF Watson has a broken jaw then there will be very limited sympathy for him around the country. All this talk of the abuse he takes is a misnoma, he is the most highly protected player playing our game in the county. He gets more soft frees than any other player. He is also prone to either pulling early and low on a dropping ball, pulling head height on a boucing ball or throwing the ball into an opponent to play them and the ball. There is no doubting his talent, but if you live by the sword then you have to accept when it cuts both ways.

On the game itself looking back over both games, the midfield was the sector that was probably the difference in both teams, both loughgiel midefielders cleaned up every breaking ball on both sides. It was a clear tactic of the L'giel half backs not to attempt to win the ball first time only to stop the dunloy men from doing so as they knew they were sweeping up all the breaks. Id say if you looked at the games then mccloskey would have been responsible for most of the loughgiel cleareances from defence. They crowded that whole sector and it worked a treat for them.

If they a watson-less for the final I would say the old vunerabilities will come back to the fore but for me it is still a massive IF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
The word from Loughguile is that he has a broken jaw but i would think he will be playing. I dont see how they can win without Watson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 19, 2008, 09:29:18 AM
I dont see anyone playing with a broken jaw, I would imagine it would even painful to run let allow take a tackle on it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2008, 09:31:29 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 19, 2008, 09:29:18 AM
I dont see anyone playing with a broken jaw, I would imagine it would even painful to run let allow take a tackle on it!

Thats assuming he has a broken jaw.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 19, 2008, 09:34:25 AM
My point exactly there is some rumour with him every year coming up to the bigger matches!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 09:39:35 AM
Straight from the Mickey Harte school of psychology. The story has got out that he has a broken jaw and had a pin put in it yesterday. There would have been more hush hush if there was chance he wouldn't be able to play

Half truths and mind games IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on September 19, 2008, 09:53:56 AM
lads lads lads.......

for god sake get over it. Liam has a broken jaw. End of. Like you say if you live by sword etc etc. No ones complaining. He got hit a couple of dirty slaps, he plays it tough so you get on with it. Whether he plays any role in final remains to be seen. But its not hear say.
Semi final is over. Dunloys gone. Can i just add that i have nothing but respect for Dunloy. They have been the BEST team in Antrim over last 14 years. Ally Elliot, Dick OKane etc are legends of the game. But worse for Dunloy- impossible to replace.

We have a serious game on our hands against Ruairi Ogs. We will need to get back down to earth quickly, get the hard work done on the training field and then go battle with the mighty men from the Dall. Has the making of another great game. Will we be able to get up to the same level of intensity as we showed on wednesday night. Will Dall be able to turn it on for the first time really this season. But they are the one team capable of it.

Another great night for us last night winning back to back minor titles. Another sign of the sea change in Hurling in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 19, 2008, 09:55:14 AM
Winker will play. No doubt about it. He'll probably be playing soccer tomorrow FFS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 19, 2008, 10:05:40 AM
Agree entirely with your post NAG and firmly agree with an earlier point that the names/county players are protected and get easier frees.
We see it in football as well...on the national stage as well discussed among other members of this board and then also at club level here and throughout the country.
It is not the referees job to protect county players but to officiate in a fair and reasonable manner.

If Winker was to miss the final it would be a shame,  given the performances he has put in he deserves to play and if he does have a broken jaw (which I hope he doesn't) and if he did miss work then that is not what our games are about.
However, I maintain that if Mickey McClements was not wearing a helmet with a facemask he would still be in hospital for something considerably more serious than a broken jaw as he pulled lowed and intentionally into his face.

I would say/hope Cushendall will be too long in the tooth to be even considering any of these matters. Having got through to the final a month ago may have helped their preparations and given them time to focus while keeping an eye on the other events.
Hopefully their lack of game time doesn't hinder them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 10:10:01 AM
Shamrock Shamrock Shamrock.......

What should we get over .....????

I'm confused
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: Cass on September 19, 2008, 10:35:57 AM
skull you are a truely awful individual...Watson has his jaw broke and is now recovering in hospital. Not once have i read any where from you, a word that would show any empathy towards his situation. I dont think any Dunloy player is unable to go to work today, and i'm sure watson has never broken any dunloy mans jaw in a hurling match either for you to be such a bitch about him. Was the injury that broke his jaw meant...of course it wasn't, but the fact is he was struck with a high blow and as a result his jaw is broken. Is there a decent word you have on this matter anywhere in your next post.

Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
I truely hope Liam Watson does not have a broken jaw.

Are you blind  ??? 

Only the most blinkered Shamrock supporters will not understand why a lot of people hold him in such disregard  (whilst still recognising he is supremely talented) . I have seen him try to inflict serious injury too many times, so how you can come on here and defend people having a problem with him is beyond me. You weren't at the Ulster Hurling League Final in Cloughmills last winter were you? You weren't at the Liam McGarry Memorial Tournament the year before?

You're dragging this out Cass. Most people don't need this explained to them. Just accept that alot of people think that Watson makes a rod for his own back and therefore outpouring of sympathy or empathy is in short supply when misfortune comes his way. It's just the way it is. I'm sure he can handle it, so why don't you.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 19, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
My 2cents worth...
I wasnt at the game but heard full report from a mate who is neutral.  It was a very hard fought game full of fast hard hurling.  It wasnt for the faint hearted and i think the ref let a lot go in the early stages which perhaps contributed to the nature of the incidents which have been discussed. An earlier clampdown by Owen may have cooled things a bit but it may not have been as good a game, hard to call.
There were a few dirty strokes on both sides though i understand it was Dunloy in the majority, particulary towards the end of the game, that let themesleves down.  I was going to also say they let their supporters down too though after hearing a conversation this morning between 2 Dunloy supporters it might not apply:

"Bad match"
"Yes, we were very poor"
"Hear winker got broken jaw"
"Yes, I hear it is fractured in 2 places, had to go to Altnagalvin, that was the highlight of the match for me, (ha ha) good enough for him, pity he didnt get more"

I know there is bad blood on both sides but that sort of comment about any individual is disgusting.  I honestly believe that if an oppositon player got permanently injured it would bring a huge amount of pleasure to these sorts of "humans". 

Think we will have a different type of hurling in the final and looking forward to what should be a good match.  My prediction is that providing Watson is fit, the recent hard games for Loughgiel will put them in better position to defeat Cushendall by 5/6 points.  If Watson doesnt play it will be close but Loughgiel may just pip Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Quote from: monkey on September 19, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
My 2cents worth...
I wasnt at the game but heard full report from a mate who is neutral.  It was a very hard fought game full of fast hard hurling.  It wasnt for the faint hearted and i think the ref let a lot go in the early stages which perhaps contributed to the nature of the incidents which have been discussed. An earlier clampdown by Owen may have cooled things a bit but it may not have been as good a game, hard to call.
There were a few dirty strokes on both sides though i understand it was Dunloy in the majority, particulary towards the end of the game, that let themesleves down.  I was going to also say they let their supporters down too though after hearing a conversation this morning between 2 Dunloy supporters it might not apply:

"Bad match"
"Yes, we were very poor"
"Hear winker got broken jaw"
"Yes, I hear it is fractured in 2 places, had to go to Altnagalvin, that was the highlight of the match for me, (ha ha) good enough for him, pity he didnt get more"

I know there is bad blood on both sides but that sort of comment about any individual is disgusting.  I honestly believe that if an oppositon player got permanently injured it would bring a huge amount of pleasure to these sorts of "humans". 

There was more than 2 so called Dunloy supporters that disgraced themselves monkey. I heard them myself. But please don't extrapolate a conversation held between two of them to mean that we're all like that because the majority are not


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 19, 2008, 02:51:36 PM
http://www.dc-fc.com/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2008, 03:02:55 PM
ok, job done, its a bitter pill for any player/supporter to swallow when real contenders are knocked out of championship. focus must now be put on the final which is next Sunday. Loughgiel are favourites wether they like it or not. Cushendall will have to match their passion and will to win if they are to overcome Loughgiel.

possible match ups Graffin on Winker, mc manus on James campbell. mc Gill on mccloskey (he took a bad knock also is he ok for the game) Johnny Campbell and Karl mcKeegan. and who ever picks up Shane McNaughton (wont be Barney) these are the key battles that will win the game. Aidan Delargy will pull the strings for Cushendall, drops deep and can pop up just about anywhere and is deadly accurate. on this I'm going for Cushendall but my gut tells me Loughgiel.

said Loughgiel would beat Dunloy, noticed during our game with them that Loughgiel had changed their gameplan. Watson will always score ten points but they did not always look for him in all the games. in the past they have been over reliant on him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 19, 2008, 03:10:43 PM
I don't want to stray into dangerous territory and I don't want anyone to name names, make accusations or anything like that but I'm just curious as to how Watson came to suffer the injury.

The BBC (I know, I know) is stating that "Watson sustained a broken jaw in a collision". Now this could be a simple statement of fact, a euphemism, or simply the Beeb not knowing what its talking about.

Was it a simple collision, something more, or was it  even noticeable during the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
happened in the second half late on won ball between the 45 and 21 and came through two high enough takles no different to what was going on prior. hit got up and took the free and lashed it over the bar, played on for a bit till McKeague got him, though not in the face ::)

hope that solves it for ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2008, 03:23:01 PM
It will be a case of how many scores Loughguile can get from the supporting cast. Watson will guarantee you 10 points, there isnt a back in Antrim able to handle him. If it is still tight towards the end Loughguiles demons may come back, in fairness there was no sign of this the other night. An aspect that will help the Shamrocks is two good tough games before the final, whereas in past years they had walked into the final without a challenge they now know they can come out on the right side of a close match when it really matters. Cassidy seems to have them prepared to peak at the right time and they have improved immensely from last year. Last years final will have brought the younger lads on immeasurably so there shouldnt be any stage fright........BUT i still think Cushendall will win as their backs may smother the Loughguile forwards ( bar Watson). If anyone hears any betting for the final get it posted.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on September 19, 2008, 03:47:06 PM
Re: Watson If and i suspect he will plays in the final, against medical advice, will he be covered by Coyle Hamilton insurers for the Gaa? It would be possible to injure him badly by just a shoulder , something that will happen even in the mildest game. I would imagine Ruairi og backs will not show much respect to any Loughgiel forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 19, 2008, 05:40:01 PM
Get real all you shamrockers out there, taking so much exception to the lack of sympathy for winker, FFS don't you get it. It's not about Loughgiel for him, it's about the Winker Watson show, so don't you worry about him.  It was an accident but forgive some posters for looking upon it as justice for some of the scum bag pulls he has tried in his day. But I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he plays on Sunday, with a bit of luck it will have knocked some sense into him, he who lives by the sword and all that.
I suppose he has one thing to be thankfull for is that Patch retired this year as he is the only defender I remember having kept him quiet for the last few years. I also think Aaron Graffin will give him all he wants on Sunday, the best CB in Antrim at the minute IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 19, 2008, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Quote from: monkey on September 19, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
My 2cents worth...
I wasnt at the game but heard full report from a mate who is neutral. 
There were a few dirty strokes on both sides though i understand it was Dunloy in the majority, particulary towards the end of the game, that let themesleves down.  I was going to also say they let their supporters down too though after hearing a conversation this morning between 2 Dunloy supporters it might not apply:

"Bad match"
"Yes, we were very poor"
"Hear winker got broken jaw"
"Yes, I hear it is fractured in 2 places, had to go to Altnagalvin, that was the highlight of the match for me, (ha ha) good enough for him, pity he didnt get more"

I know there is bad blood on both sides but that sort of comment about any individual is disgusting.  I honestly believe that if an oppositon player got permanently injured it would bring a huge amount of pleasure to these sorts of "humans". 

There was more than 2 so called Dunloy supporters that disgraced themselves monkey. I heard them myself. But please don't extrapolate a conversation held between two of them to mean that we're all like that because the majority are not

Nope youve got me wrong, I wasnt extrapolating nor was i at the match.  I was just disappointed to hear the remarks this morning and to say that these "supporters" wouldnt have been let down when Dunloy lost their heads.  No doubt this opinion is shared by a minority and im sure a minority on the Loughiel side too if it related to a Dunloy player.   Its too often part an parcel at some matches to see and hear this type of behaviour from some of the savages that follow the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2008, 06:36:31 PM
Is that not what you are inferring in the sentence you wrote

"I was going to also say they let their supporters down too though after hearing a conversation this morning between 2 Dunloy supporters it might not apply:"

No matter...you've cleared it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on September 19, 2008, 07:47:09 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on September 19, 2008, 08:44:30 AM
Div 2-3 of the league is getting interesting. Ballycran will win it as expected but around the middle theres great competition. There's 5 strong sides fighting for 2 places in Div 2 next year - Glenarm, Carey, St Paul's, Armoy & Lamb Dhearg. Should be some interesting games over the next couple of weeks.

i know its not part of the who hit who argument, but does anyone know the craic with the leagues for next year? more specifically 4a. it just my club, which is hard to guess is looking like gettng out of 4b and i was wondering if they were going to be changed again or do we play in 4a next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2008, 08:48:58 PM
as far as i know Bredaghgael, the hurling leagues are one up one down. div2/3 will become a div 2 and 3 on their own, Ballycastle conjured this (not going to get into that argument again :-X :-X :-X) and the top 8 in div 2/3 become div 2 and the bottom 8 become div 3.

clear as MUD?????? 

I'd say use would do really well in div 4 b, St aggies would be the best team next year as St Terseas are going up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 19, 2008, 11:28:52 PM
My turn - Loughgiel sounds like a right good old scrap, Great intensity, plenty of hard tackles. Just what the doctor ordered for antrim hurling. If we can get all are club games to be fought at that intensity and passion then prehaps we can make more impact on the Liam.
I've seen what winker can do for club, county and football team. Very talented and pacey but a right dirty wee fecker. If he has a broken jaw, I wish him a successful and speedy recovery. but he cant risk playing in the final 15 boys would be out for his blood.
The dall men have all being very quiet of late, they have had weeks to prepare, who is manageing them? have they had any challenge games? Is neil mcmanus fit?
I would love to the see the final played with the same instensity and passion, its only good for antrim hurling.

Could someone pop up a copy of the league table? Reading MR post got me thinking. If ballycastle went down a divsion and championship grade, It might be the thing they need to get them fired up and help turn them in the team they once were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 20, 2008, 07:57:04 AM
Youngfeller. . . . . . Glenariffe will be going down this year not the town,one down and one up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 20, 2008, 10:08:21 AM
The 2 hard games with Dunloy will do Loughgeil more good than any challenge games Cushendall could organise. Why was one semi played so early?
Is the final 28th Sept or 5th Oct?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 20, 2008, 10:27:15 AM
Final is next sunday, 28th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 21, 2008, 10:50:33 AM
To highlight a conversation between 2 of our "fans" is rather petty, and what were you doing eaves dropping?? the fact of the matter is Dunloy is no different with regards to supporters as any other club, these people arent supporters, they attend 1/2 games a year to shout their mouths off. It been like that since the beginning of time..believe me i was there. :D

As for Watson, he has a broken jaw but as someone mentioned earlier if you live by the sword...Michael McClements no doubt in my mind would still be in hospital but for th fact he wears a helmet. The biggest problem regards watson now is that fact that he wont be able to eat? Even i wouldnt be too worried about marking a player who hasnt ate in two weeks, if he is missing i cant see how loughgiel can pull it off, but as has been stated before they play much more as a team now, although he is still their only real scorer. Would like to see Graffin or Delargy mark him to see how it would go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 21, 2008, 11:40:12 AM
Delargy may be playing up front. seen him at the Johnnies game up there, Graffin would be a better option
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 21, 2008, 01:49:21 PM
Why not neil mc manus ? HEs a big strong fella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 21, 2008, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy on September 21, 2008, 10:50:33 AM
To highlight a conversation between 2 of our "fans" is rather petty, and what were you doing eaves dropping?? the fact of the matter is Dunloy is no different with regards to supporters as any other club, these people arent supporters, they attend 1/2 games a year to shout their mouths off. It been like that since the beginning of time..believe me i was there. :D
I was only repeating what i heard and its hardly petty as you agree that it goes on at all clubs.  As i said in my next post (perhaps you missed it) "No doubt this opinion is shared by a minority and im sure a minority on the Loughiel side too if it related to a Dunloy player.   Its too often part an parcel at some matches to see and hear this type of behaviour from some of the savages that follow the game."

Quote from: Dunloy on September 21, 2008, 10:50:33 AM
As for Watson, he has a broken jaw but as someone mentioned earlier if you live by the sword...
Think this phrase is starting to wear out a bit now!  ;)

Quote from: Dunloy on September 21, 2008, 10:50:33 AM
The biggest problem regards watson now is that fact that he wont be able to eat? Even i wouldnt be too worried about marking a player who hasnt ate in two weeks
Good point, even with consuming equivilant liquid food it couldbt be the best preparation for a final.  Mind you, look what happens if you starve a pack of lions for a while!

Quote from: Dunloy on September 21, 2008, 10:50:33 AM
if he is missing i cant see how loughgiel can pull it off, but as has been stated before they play much more as a team now,
Will be closer match without him but Cushendall need to be on their game to win even without Watson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2008, 07:11:39 PM
Have they announced the order of play for next week. Is football or hurling on first? Dont fancy seeing any of the football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
Think it's football first Minder. Probably been announced during the week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 22, 2008, 04:50:50 PM
How is the dalls prep going? surely they are re-focused and have the hunger again after losing out last year? The two games with us will have done Loughgiel the world of good coming into the final, the flip side to that of course is that itll have given cushendall more than enough of an idea of what to expect in the final. Cant see them being as shell shocked by loughgiels intense approach as we were, I think Cushendall will win if they are hungry this year, they have the defence to stop loughgiel and are also solid in the middle. Can see it being quite a low scoring game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 22, 2008, 05:21:53 PM
 ;)  Hi there game controllers!  I am watching Ye All!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2008, 07:13:16 PM
will be a tight game and will be difficult to predict who the winner will be. any sort of idea's on the loughgiel team (would be expecting watson to start)?

cushendall will have to match loughgiels hunger and will need to be smart on the sidelines. could also be a case of subs making an impact to win the game for both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 07:23:53 PM
sensible timing for the match, Football at 2.00pm and the Hurling at 4.00pm. anyword on the referees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 22, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
Hi the ye fellas!

Any truth in what I am hearing about St. Brigids?  Apparently, and I am reliabily informed, St. Brigids's are not permitted to play the National Anthem or fly any flags at their new Musgrave Park ground.  This was agreed as a pre-condition by St. Brigid's and Belfast City Council, prior to taking over the grounds!  Would this mean that no championship games can be played at Musgrave.  Now, I wonder what Mr. 'Jolly' Brolly and Co. have to say about that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 22, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
Hi the ye fellas!

Any truth in what I am hearing about St. Brigids?  Apparently, and I am reliabily informed, St. Brigids's are not permitted to play the National Anthem or fly any flags at their new Musgrave Park ground.  This was agreed as a pre-condition by St. Brigid's and Belfast City Council, prior to taking over the grounds!  Would this mean that no championship games can be played at Musgrave.  Now, I wonder what Mr. 'Jolly' Brolly and Co. have to say about that?

what other grounds bar Casement play the National Anthem? bar new grounds being open for National league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 22, 2008, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 22, 2008, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 22, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
Hi the ye fellas!

Any truth in what I am hearing about St. Brigids?  Apparently, and I am reliabily informed, St. Brigids's are not permitted to play the National Anthem or fly any flags at their new Musgrave Park ground.  This was agreed as a pre-condition by St. Brigid's and Belfast City Council, prior to taking over the grounds!  Would this mean that no championship games can be played at Musgrave.  Now, I wonder what Mr. 'Jolly' Brolly and Co. have to say about that?

what other grounds bar Casement play the National Anthem? bar new grounds being open for National league games.


Ballycastle, Dunloy, Loughuille, Cushendall to name but a few and not only national League games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 22, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
WUM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2008, 11:19:29 AM
Garrett Duffy down to referee,you can expect paddy magill & watson to hit big totals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 23, 2008, 11:25:33 AM
I think they have got the selection wrong on that one, he is out of his depth at level because he doesnt understand the game properly as to what is acceptable to the players and what is not acceptable to anyone.

Sad but true!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2008, 12:13:23 PM
Totally agree NAG hope he doesnt blow everything up which he tends to do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 23, 2008, 01:32:54 PM
Some referees get very nervous before big games like this and it affects the way they referee it. I hope he does ok but I'd be a wee bit worried that he won't let the game develop at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 23, 2008, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2008, 11:19:29 AM
Garrett Duffy down to referee,you can expect paddy magill & watson to hit big totals
What ever happened to Garret, maybe my memory is a bit clouded but up until 3 or 4 years ago I always thought he was decent at keeping things just below boiling point, keeping the game flowing and keeping it enjoyable for players and spectators alike. No harm to him but I'd think twice about goin on Sunday just to watch an exhibition of free taking.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2008, 02:26:30 PM
Hate being over picky regarding refs. They should be held up in the highest of esteem at all times. Maybe then we would improve consistency. Hope he doesn't be over fussy on the tiny technical fouls and punishes where there is intent to harm the player. Very often the opposite has been the case and games have decended into freefests. Good luck to him in the final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 23, 2008, 02:55:05 PM
Hi there ye fellas!
[
i]
Ack! now just listen to ye all going on about referees again, rabbiting on about not letting the game flow and the like.  Give credit where credit is due to the Referees.  They are all only human like the rest of us and can make mistakes as we all do.  Remember however, the game will only flow if the players wish for it to do so and providing they do not get caught up in petty, silly off the ball incidents.  

Garrett Duffy will do a good job, sure he is a highly experienced referee with National League games, National League Finals and other significant games under his belt, why the pessimism, an air of sour grapes in some parts maybe?

I hope he lets the game flow like everyone else.  However, I dont think, given his experience, that he will let the game develop into a highly charged duel between two North Antrim hurling teams and Supporters, as we have recently witnessed. Good luck to ya Duff, have a good one.[/i]  Remember, I will be watching ya!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 23, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
And what will you tell me is wrong with a highly charged dual between 2 N.Antrim teams and supporters, as long as he keeps the dirt out of it then thats exactly what I would expect to get for my 12quid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2008, 04:55:10 PM
The problem LM is Assessor is reading about the GAA from a text book  :)

If he actually got out a bit more he might accept that there has been a huge variance in the way games have been refereed. That is fact. More consistency needed in trying to let the game flow without being overly fussy.
Hope that'll be in the next edition of your text book assessor ..... :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 23, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 23, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
And what will you tell me is wrong with a highly charged dual between 2 N.Antrim teams and supporters, as long as he keeps the dirt out of it then thats exactly what I would expect to get for my 12quid.

There ye go Last Man!  The 'dirt' as you put it, has absolutely nothing to do with the referee, so how is he expected to keep the 'dirt' out of it? Surely this will come down to the players, on the day or in any given game.  Now you wont find that in any text book as your Ali 'TheSkull1' suggests. Let the appointed referee get on with the game and don't even attempt to preempt his actions, like so many other contributors appear to be doing.  The 'flow of the game' in many situations is entirely dependent upon the actions and demeanour of the players. 

This referee appointment, I believe to be well deserved and a clear acknowledgement of the consistency, fitness level and overall ability of one of our own National referees.

Let's all hope for a free flowing, manly and skillful game of hurling, without the 'dirt' of course!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
Garret will be grand, the game will not boil over like the one the other night, great for the supporters and the Belfast Gaels, but some tacles were too dangerous Owen did well to spot mostly everything but the referee can only see so much.

looking forward to the match, forget about the referee, if Dickey Murphy came up to referee it we'd still complain ;)

where have the Dall Posters been? if the Dall put the right men on certain Loughgiel players then they could sneak it, i'm going for Loughgiel regardless of wether Watson is plaing or not. he may come on later in the game once the dust settles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2008, 06:36:36 PM
It'll be an interesting game. The Dall have the defense certainly but it's maybe round midfield / key forward positions where they struggle.

They've always seemed to struggle for a settled midfield but maybe Paddy Magill being that bit more experienced now will help. They do seem to have been over reliant on him for scores though. It'll be interesting to see if McManus / McKillop play and if so where.

I think that Loughgiel may sneak this as I don't think Cushendall have enough up front. The last time they gained a momentum in the second half from Neil McManus cleaning up at FF and that led to Loughgiel capitulating. I couldn't see this happening with Neil McGarry at full back. Conor McCambridge is just that yard too slow now and they seem to still have vacancies round half forward which may unsettle them.

Loughgiel by 2 or 3 (Of course that's dependent on winker playing but if he isn't it's about time Joey Scullion lived up to that potential.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on September 23, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
As a member of the St Galls club, i cant believe that  all you supposed experts seem to be making the game on Sunday about the Referee! He is a fellow clubman of mine, and from what i can see, some of the posts are comming from quarters that are suffering from Sour Grapes as previously said by assessor? The guy has just been awarded a county final, like so many before him& and so many after him, let him and the club enjoy what should be a victorious day!!!!!

A lot of speculations, rumours, bitching, mixing seem to be comming from his own colleagues in GREEN&BLACK it is rumoured, Maybe some are on this site? Stories have reached Milltown already. I promise you this, as i hear them i will post them, and we will see what comes out of the woodwork!!!!

Good Luck from all the lads in the club and ignore the small minded idiots, who seem to believe that the world revolves around them and them alone! MR you should be supporting a fellow clubman, enough said?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
bruce, can you read??????? read my post again numb nuts. Garret will be grand i said. your first post i'll forgive ya. who and what other rumours have ya heard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2008, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 06:19:07 PM
Garret will be grand, the game will not boil over like the one the other night, great for the supporters and the Belfast Gaels, but some tacles were too dangerous Owen did well to spot mostly everything but the referee can only see so much.

looking forward to the match, forget about the referee, if Dickey Murphy came up to referee it we'd still complain ;)

where have the Dall Posters been? if the Dall put the right men on certain Loughgiel players then they could sneak it, i'm going for Loughgiel regardless of wether Watson is plaing or not. he may come on later in the game once the dust settles

That was a helluva an insult from Milltown Row wasnt it Stayoutsidethesquare...............?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on September 23, 2008, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on September 23, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
As a member of the St Galls club, i cant believe that  all you supposed experts seem to be making the game on Sunday about the Referee! He is a fellow clubman of mine, and from what i can see, some of the posts are comming from quarters that are suffering from Sour Grapes as previously said by assessor? The guy has just been awarded a county final, like so many before him& and so many after him, let him and the club enjoy what should be a victorious day!!!!!

A lot of speculations, rumours, bitching, mixing seem to be comming from his own colleagues in GREEN&BLACK it is rumoured, Maybe some are on this site? Stories have reached Milltown already. I promise you this, as i hear them i will post them, and we will see what comes out of the woodwork!!!!

Good Luck from all the lads in the club and ignore the small minded idiots, who seem to believe that the world revolves around them and them alone! MR you should be supporting a fellow clubman, enough said?

This isn't Garret is it? He has more sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2008, 09:48:44 PM
I hope the irony of your first post is not lost on you Stayoutsidethesquare

Shit stirring of the highest order. Are we meant to listen to a glipe like you? ???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2008, 10:10:31 PM
HS...It was Loughgiel who held up the 2006 final, when Cushendall were going out onto the field..Loughgiel were only entering Casement changing rooms...resulting in a few 'hello's' in the corridor!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on September 23, 2008, 10:18:02 PM
(http://antrim.gaa.ie/images/countyfinals08.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 23, 2008, 10:20:29 PM
do referees get in for free ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 24, 2008, 08:34:59 AM
Anyone seen any betting on the hurling final yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
Just to make it interesting anyone care to offer odds on the number of yellow cards?

What is the good word on Watson have they had the whole parish saying the Novena or is he fit and raring to go as usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2008, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
Just to make it interesting anyone care to offer odds on the number of yellow cards?

What is the good word on Watson have the had the whole parish saying the Novena or is he fit and raring to go as usual.

I heard yesterday he was getting his jaw frozen and they are going to risk him, i think this injury is genuine enough though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
To be honest if that is the case I think they are completely wreckless to ask a man, who obviously wants to play badly
to do that. This is not a hamstring or a twisted ankle that you might get away with, this is just asking for trouble IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2008, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
To be honest if that is the case I think they are completely wreckless to ask a man, who obviously wants to play badly
to do that. This is not a hamstring or a twisted ankle that you might get away with, this is just asking for trouble IMO.

I agree NAG, he could have problems for years to come if he gets a belt on it. Lets be honest, he will be targeted for a few rough tackles in that area you would have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:20:57 AM
Yeah and then there will be a hue and cry about the treatment that he got from cushendall players.

Its a county final and it is there to be won, if he isnt 100% fit then its not the cushendall players fault and if
he is on the end of a few tough tackles and cant come through it then they are not to be faulted.

Im not saying he will be targetted specifically but I would imagine that anyone who gets the ball in the first few minutes
will know they are in a match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on September 24, 2008, 09:45:24 AM
Bacon, my secrets out! How did you Know? Was it the spelling? I tell you what i do know!

Elliott did,nt get the final, was down to do the line, did,nt like it and has now withdrawn from the final!!!! How petty can you get! Ray Mathews is in instead, good to see, better man for the job. Elliott must have thought that his semi-final was good enough to get the spot!

They say players can be volatile!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 24, 2008, 09:56:11 AM
Lads Lads, can we concentrate on constructive comments, leave the man in the middle out of this. They are all good lads from what Ive seen, so let it be with the mixing! MR, Minder, Skull lets gets this back on track and deal with the game. Watson in 8 point win, Watson out to close to call point or 2 either way.

Well who agrees with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2008, 10:03:10 AM
Watson to do a Peter Canavan and win it for Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
what part of canavan is he going to play? Getting the line against Armagh or rolling the goal in against Kerry?   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 10:13:42 AM
Winkers injury could work both ways for Loughgiel. It could deflect them from pondering on the number of finals they played in recent years and get them focused on taking pressure off him. Or they may go into the game concerned their main scoring threat is a major doubt to last the game along with the reality they are going into the pressure of competing in their sixth final in a row with such poor luck. Personally I think the former will be the case. Cushendall have played no serious opposition in weeks and as smooth as that may have left their preparations, they still haven't shown any real form this year and they will know this themselves. They could pull one out at this stage but I'm sure they will be going into the game with their own doubts. They haven't been picking up goals the way they have been in previous years (something they have become very reliant on in years past) coupled along with they fact Loughgiel don't giive many away. Loughgiel will out point Cushendall I believe, so on that basis I think they would be my favourites to win on Sunday.


I see the irony has been lost on Stayousidethesquare. A complete muppet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 24, 2008, 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 24, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
what part of canavan is he going to play? Getting the line against Armagh or rolling the goal in against Kerry?   ;)

Or diving for soft frees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
Surely they cant play him. If they do they'd be going against all doctors advice and may as well have an ambulnce (SP) at the side of the pitch waiting to take him to the royal. I hope the managment have a bit of sense about this. 

I dunno who i wanta win, I hope lets it flow and doesnt become the highlight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on September 24, 2008, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
Surely they cant play him. If they do they'd be going against all doctors advice and may as well have an ambulnce (SP) at the side of the pitch waiting to take him to the royal. I hope the managment have a bit of sense about this. 

I dunno who i wanta win, I hope lets it flow and doesnt become the highlight

Why all the focus on the ref? He's a sound ref and I've no doubt he'll do a good job. If Liam Watson has a broken jaw he shouldn't be allowed on to the pitch. It just too dangorous. I think I'll take a run up for the match. It has the makings of a good afternoons hurley.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 03:50:34 PM
just dont want the man to steal the game from the fans. I'd love to go an see it. What are the odds?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 24, 2008, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 03:50:34 PM
just dont want the man to steal the game from the fans. I'd love to go an see it. What are the odds?

Haven't seen any yet but if i do I'll post them. I think Loughgeil can do it even without Winker. They had them dead and buried in the final 2 years ago before the mother of all come backs by the Ruiri Ogs. The 2 games with Dunloy will have done them the power of good. Shamrocks to win by 2-3 pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Just how dangerous is it to play with a broken jaw? Other than the possibility of further damage to the jaw (which should heal over time anyway) I wouldn't have thought there would be any long term health issues with doing so? Can anybody enlighten us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2008, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Just how dangerous is it to play with a broken jaw? Other than the possibility of further damage to the jaw (which should heal over time anyway) I wouldn't have thought there would be any long term health issues with doing so? Can anybody enlighten us?

Apart from looking like desperate dan all the rest of his life he'll be fine:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1357/1370347267_b09cb03719.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 24, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
Totally dependent on where the jaw is broken! If broken  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 04:34:19 PM
 :)

Didn't realise myself that winker got the injury in the first half. I thought it happened in the last quarter. If he was able to play most of the match (and play well) then if he has the break pinned then I see absolutely no issue with him playing with a faceguard and a jag in him. Actually don't think it will affect him at all. But then again....I ain't a doctor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 24, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Breathing could be difficult as the game goes on. He'll need a good strong jag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 24, 2008, 04:57:43 PM
The last i heard it wasn't even broke, that at his scan on monday he was given the all clear and all the rumours are just that.

For my tuppence i'm sure he'll play, and i think loughgiel will win.  Cushendalls easy passage to the final will as has done loughgiel in recent years, served as a hinderence to them.  For the first time this loughgiel team goes into the final having beaten a team capable of winning the championship, when the going gets though that experience will be invaluable.

Cushendall don't really know how far they can be pushed.

Loughgiels defence has impressed me no end also, they may not have the same eye catching qualities the Dalls defence has but they do exactly what it says on the tin - stop quality forwards hurling.

With a strong defence, a workaholic midfield and the most natural scoring forward in their ranks, i think for the first time since the Rossa game, loughgiel go in as favourites.

Might not make it up to casement :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 24, 2008, 06:43:17 PM
i hope its nothing to do with not playing in the final Max ;) come on up for around 2 watch the borefest that will be the football and quick pint down below (name tags optional) then ready for the main event, Knowing how the Dall will line out ;) i think that if they match Loughgiels hunger then could be curtains for Loughgiel.

Cushendall beat a full strength Ballygaget team on Sunday handy enough. Culbert i believe has been taking them for tough physical training sessions. but I'm still going for Loughgiel. Anybody out there going for the Dall? they know how to win the Championship. Monty to make a comeback
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
3 things milltown

After last year I don't think you'll get too many N Antrim men at the futball...unless of course your buying the pints  :)
Dunloy beat Ballygalget handy enough as well  :-\
Monty has been playing all year......although in saying that he's a bit like james brown in that respect
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 24, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
thanks Skull for stating the obvious  :P

i know ya beat them but with County Downs final coming up and with the Ulster championship soon after, Ballygalget would have been trying a bit harder than the time you played them. as for Monty, well the injuries have set in over the years but he's got a good eye for goal, something you have said they have lacked recently. Maybe Shane can perform as well as he did against Loughgiel the last time, give Barney the run around.

as for the pints, well thats a non starter, i dont drink ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
Skulls getting a bit edgy. Christ there fans would be unbearable, even this side of the water. I'll go with the og's and the shams to shite themselves again, the og's have being there and done it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2008, 08:45:53 PM
I think the Dall will win it,not sure there is enough scoring from the Shamrocks if Master Watson is kept in some sort of order by the Dalls backs. Hoping for a good game but i have to say i think the standard in Antrim is as poor as i can remember for many years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 08:53:55 PM
If hes playing he'll be carried off or sent off. the dall boys will get to him. As for the standard of hurling, clubs need to put more time into there youth and guide them into senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 24, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
three teams competing for a championship every year is not bad going, in some counties only one team wins nearly every year.

Dunloy in the past have made many a break through at the semi final stage, i believe Loughgiel could, once they break Antrim, make an impact on te all ireland semi finals. if Antrim had have played with as much passion as was witnessed the other night we would be a lot better.  real fight, do or die, one bite at the cherry style hurling.

thats what has been missing for all these years in Antrim county hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 24, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
It will be interesting to see how the bookies price the match.
Id go 8/11 Loughgiel, 6/5 Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2008, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 24, 2008, 09:30:18 PM
three teams competing for a championship every year is not bad going, in some counties only one team wins nearly every year.

Dunloy in the past have made many a break through at the semi final stage, i believe Loughgiel could, once they break Antrim, make an impact on te all ireland semi finals. if Antrim had have played with as much passion as was witnessed the other night we would be a lot better.  real fight, do or die, one bite at the cherry style hurling.

thats what has been missing for all these years in Antrim county hurling

There isnt a team in Antrim at present anywhere near the standard of those Dunloy teams that were close to winning it all. I believe the winner of Ulster will play the Munster winners and say for example Loughguile were Ulster winners they would not be physical enough to compete. Some pretty light fellas on that team, especially as the match would be in February and conditions would be heavy. Nothing like getting ahead of ourselves  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 24, 2008, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 24, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
Just to make it interesting anyone care to offer odds on the number of yellow cards?

What is the good word on Watson have they had the whole parish saying the Novena or is he fit and raring to go as usual.


Hi there Nag, ye big woman ye.

As an Assessor, I feel you are beginning to act as you Pseudonym suggests, i.e. a disgruntled, contankerous and a munipulative whinger, with a severe chip on both shoulders.  In my opinion, your twisted comments tend to smack of either a retired or current referee, who is no longer the centre of attraction!

I will be watching you closely!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 24, 2008, 10:59:35 PM
Tis smee!

Heres wishing Garret Duffy, his linesmen and umpires all the very best for Sunday's County Hurling Final.  Have a good one and enjoy the day!

Remember, I'll be watching ye all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: youngfella on September 24, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
Skulls getting a bit edgy. Christ there fans would be unbearable, even this side of the water. I'll go with the og's and the shams to shite themselves again, the og's have being there and done it

Unfortunately I've got nothing to be edgy about.  :'(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 25, 2008, 09:01:43 AM
Assessor

You are way off, and if you had been doing your job of watching and keeping an eye on some of the refs within the county maybe the standard wouldnt have dropped off. The players are fitter and more skillful now than they ever have been but there is a total lack of bite in the games, im not putting the balme totally at the refs but there is a proportion of balme to be taken.

If I have a chip on boths shoulders then I would be perfectly balanced you nonce.

MR IMO loughgiel would do well to get out of Antrim and then Ulster, I dont think they would have the physicallity or the scoring power to even live with the lynches should they get that far.

The game IMO will be decided by the mid field battle, this is where loughgiel routed dunloy and meant that they had more possession if cushendall can get on top in this sector then I dont see loughgiel winning. Its the key area and allowed the shams to set up attack after attack if cushendall can stop this then where do the scores come from? Handy frees?

Here is hoping for a good game anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2008, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: NAG on September 25, 2008, 09:01:43 AM

MR IMO loughgiel would do well to get out of Antrim and then Ulster, I dont think they would have the physicallity or the scoring power to even live with the lynches should they get that far.


You know what, I think you're right about the Lynches, I think it may be their year. Granted they need to beat Swatragh in the Derry final, then the Antrim champions in the ulster semi-final, before the winners of a potential Down champions v Keady semi-final.

If the bodies finally win an Antrim, they'll be celebrating like they'd won the big yin and maybe loose focus. The Lynches would have it over them in the physicality stakes and a wet october sunday (in casement no doubt) is a day for a big hallion as opposed to a fleet footed fairy.
The Dall may match the Lynches better but discipline may let them down and even though they gave our lads a good trimming at the weekend (who hasn't recently?) I don't think they're firing on all cylinders just yet but that can happen at any time.

As for whoever comes out of Down, they'd need to buck up their ideas as neither Portaferry or ourselves are anywhere near the level required to win an Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 25, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
I think that clown better take that accusation down, he is not even repeating second hand info its more like 4th or 5th if its even truth at all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2008, 11:30:07 AM
Agreed Minder, a first class rocket. .....Calm yer jets lad. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2008, 12:13:21 PM
But he looks so cool in his Bruce Willis avatar :)

Would not give this eejit any oxygen on this board. A complete tool judging by his first 3 posts. Would the mods have a problem with what he has written?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 25, 2008, 12:20:25 PM
I''ve deleted that post. Absolutely no place for it. Stayoutsidethesquare, please refrain from that sort of gossip and rumour mongering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 25, 2008, 01:11:13 PM
What was he on about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2008, 01:29:24 PM
deleted for a reason girt  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 25, 2008, 01:41:36 PM
On another note, has anyone got the inside track on the watch tower that is being built in casement.
Is it just me or did we not get rid of those?

What is it for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2008, 01:45:10 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 25, 2008, 01:41:36 PM
On another note, has anyone got the inside track on the watch tower that is being built in casement.
Is it just me or did we not get rid of those?

What is it for?

NAG it is a "control tower", any stadium over a certain capacity has to have one, even though there are usually never more than a few hundred people rattling about Casement. Probably just somewhere a bit more comfortable for the yellow bib brigade to watch the match and have their tea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
I think the 'watchtower' being built in Casement is the Antrim GAA museum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 25, 2008, 02:51:37 PM
I just thought it was a very strange place for a press gallery, the one in healy park is on the half way line and is very modern
would get away from those scaffolds you see at any of the bigger games for the tv crews.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2008, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 25, 2008, 02:51:37 PM
I just thought it was a very strange place for a press gallery, the one in healy park is on the half way line and is very modern
would get away from those scaffolds you see at any of the bigger games for the tv crews.

I thought it was a press box and put a post on official site asking was it, they told me it wasnt, it was a "control tower", whatever that entails. Maybe thats where the handheld cd player is kept that they play Amhrán na bhFiann from before matches  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2008, 05:23:39 PM
did anybody copy what the eejit posted? have not been on all day but got a call from someone telling me about something being posted earlier. pm me with it if ya can?


he claims to be from my club but i doubt it very much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 25, 2008, 06:54:36 PM
missed it myself and the nose is now giving me awful bother :-[

MR talking too football men and they tell me this years final could so one sided it could make last years look like a classic! If that's the case we will have plenty of time for pints.

Monty hurled against us bboth times this years, scored a penalty that he won and might just have that bit of graft to disrupt neil mc garry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
i'm trying to decide do i drive or take a pint or 6? not sure will know nearer the time, her indoors is into this online banking malarky :'( :'(

going to have to get other ways of stealing money from her purse

yeah Max i'm with ya on that one, Monty could be the key in the fullforward spot, ball breaking for Shane goal or two
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2008, 09:04:58 PM
Cant find betting for this match anywhere  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2008, 09:52:56 PM
cant find odds anywhere also minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the green man on September 25, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
Big Jack Carson has a bit of a quandry this weekend. Derry Hurling final at 3.30 in Celtic Park, Antrim Hurling final in Casement at 4! Some teams going to miss out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
Can't see any betting either.  boylesports is the only site I can access in here & it has betting on nearlyevery club semi / final / replay except in Antrim!

Fella in ladbrokes told me yesterday they should have it by lunch time today. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 10:16:27 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
Can't see any betting either.  boylesports is the only site I can access in here & it has betting on nearlyevery club semi / final / replay except in Antrim!

Fella in ladbrokes told me yesterday they should have it by lunch time today. 

I checked Paddy Power, Ladbrokes/Eastwoods, Sean Grahams sites and no word of any betting for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 26, 2008, 10:50:34 AM
Quote from: the green man on September 25, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
Big Jack Carson has a bit of a quandry this weekend. Derry Hurling final at 3.30 in Celtic Park, Antrim Hurling final in Casement at 4! Some teams going to miss out

Boys, a boys, a boys!

Sure I thought JC was God and could be everywhere at the one time. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
If he was gifted with omnipresence, he'd be slapping you on the back of the head and telling you to get back to your times tables

between yourself and that other boy stayoutsidethesquare  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
If he was gifted with omnipresence, he'd be slapping you on the back of the head and telling you to get back to your times tables

between yourself and that other boy stayoutsidethesquare  ::)

Thats assuming Skull they are two different people.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 11:37:59 AM
Where ye from anyway assessor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 11:37:59 AM
Where ye from anyway assessor?

Jupiter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 26, 2008, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 26, 2008, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
If he was gifted with omnipresence, he'd be slapping you on the back of the head and telling you to get back to your times tables

between yourself and that other boy stayoutsidethesquare  ::)

Thats assuming Skull they are two different people.....

Ye boy ye!

You should never make assumptions boy!.  Just like many of the contributors on this whingers forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 26, 2008, 12:03:35 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 11:37:59 AM
Where ye from anyway assessor?

I am from Gods Country.  North Antrim.  Where hurling is paramount!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 26, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
Somebody on a serious wind up here.

I thought only paisley referred to North Antrim as God's country.

Anyhow.

What about a few predictions for Sunday, my own thoughts on who is for winning keeps changing, After our defeat i thought Loughgiel would win.  thats changed slightly in that i don't think Cushendall will be as poor as we where or the game will have the same intensity, which definately brought the best out of loughgiel.

Cushendalls forwards are wilely without being exceptional, defence is mean and they have a midfield to match Loughgiels for energy (hugely impressed with Natty).  Still think they will need goals, but they are more than capable.

So what i'm saying is Loughgiel could win or Cushendall could win, or it could be a draw  ??? ??? ???

As for all this chat about refereeing, i think the semi final was a shining example of how to improve the standard of antrim hurling, let the intensity go, antrim teams need to become accustomed to that level of intensity where not every free is blown - as is the case in the south, once the players come to expect that level of intensity and aggression then the technical skill will improve.  for years we've been putting the cart before the horse
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 01:06:57 PM
Finally got betting for the match....and am quite suprised

Cushendall 1/2
Loughgiel 9/5
Draw 10/1

Toals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 26, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 01:06:57 PM
Finally got betting for the match....and am quite suprised
Cushendall 1/2
Loughgiel 9/5
Draw 10/1
Toals

Assume this was in shop? Cant see anything online
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Hurling - Cushendall vs Loughgiel - (Antrim SHC Final) - (Match betting)Sunday 28th of September, 2008
Time Selection Odds
16:00 Cushendall 1.80
Draw 10.00
Loughgiel 2.10

ladbrokes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 26, 2008, 01:22:54 PM
Loughgiel v Cushendall Match Betting 
Loughgiel  8 - 15 
Draw  9 - 1 
Cushendall  13 - 8 

paddy power

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 01:24:13 PM
colonel can you re-post with fraction odds, unsure of decimal ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
Cheers.  Why the big difference? either Toals or Ladbrokes is wrong although what Ladbrokes are offering is more in line with what i assumed it would be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 26, 2008, 01:27:54 PM
girt that second one was paddy power.

here is ladbrokes

Hurling - Cushendall vs Loughgiel - (Antrim SHC Final) - (Match betting)Sunday 28th of September, 2008
Time Selection Odds
16:00 Cushendall 4/5
Draw 9/1
Loughgiel 11/10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 01:32:45 PM
3 bookmakers with all hugely different prices.  interesting. back shamrocks in toals, cushendall with paddy power & the draw wherever ye want!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 26, 2008, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 26, 2008, 12:55:40 PM
Somebody on a serious wind up here.

I thought only paisley referred to North Antrim as God's country.

Anyhow.

What about a few predictions for Sunday, my own thoughts on who is for winning keeps changing, After our defeat i thought Loughgiel would win.  thats changed slightly in that i don't think Cushendall will be as poor as we where or the game will have the same intensity, which definately brought the best out of loughgiel.

Cushendalls forwards are wilely without being exceptional, defence is mean and they have a midfield to match Loughgiels for energy (hugely impressed with Natty).  Still think they will need goals, but they are more than capable.

So what i'm saying is Loughgiel could win or Cushendall could win, or it could be a draw  ??? ??? ???

As for all this chat about refereeing, i think the semi final was a shining example of how to improve the standard of antrim hurling, let the intensity go, antrim teams need to become accustomed to that level of intensity where not every free is blown - as is the case in the south, once the players come to expect that level of intensity and aggression then the technical skill will improve.  for years we've been putting the cart before the horse

MP, ye boy ye!

I totally concur with your analysis in the need for greater intensity and pace in the Aontroim style of hurling.  However, 'intensity' is one thing, 'butchery and savagery' is another thing indeed.  By the way, no 'wind up at all', North Antrim is 'Gods Country' where hurling is concerned here.  In defense of the referee, he can only see what he sees and what his umpires may bring to his attention.

Be warned, you umpires, I am not only watching the referees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 01:48:38 PM
13/8 for the dirty Dall, a steal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 02:04:32 PM
very strange  the betting, one gives it to Loughgiel the other the Dall? i'm a bit like you at the minute Max, start of the yeart it was Loughgiel now as we draw near i may be edging towards a fully fit team in Cushendall, Shamrocker has been quiet all week what tactics will loughgiel bring to this game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 02:19:58 PM
All change in the betting again....

Paddy Power

Loughgiel 8/11
Cushendall 5/4

Toals

Loughgiel 13/10
Cushendall 8/11

Ladbrokes still waiting for betting in the shop.

I managed to get the 9/5(toals) with Loughgiel but missed the 13/8 (p power) with Cushendall

Still strange the difference in the betting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 02:26:35 PM
Still money to be made there for any big hitters if ye take the bigger prices in each shop & throw smaller amount on the draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 02:19:58 PM

I managed to get the 9/5(toals) with Loughgiel but missed the 13/8 (p power) with Cushendall


Call yourself a loughgiel supporter  :)

Don't you know it'll bring you bad luck even thinking about betting for the other side.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 26, 2008, 02:59:52 PM
Loughgiel supporter???  Im a Shane O'Neills man myself!  Although there is a few blow ins round my way from Loughgiel so for their sake I'd like to see them win, and now financially also!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 03:57:17 PM
That would explain the self centered greed. Could have swore you were a shamrocks man from previous posts. Sorry if I offended you  :P

Good luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 04:49:30 PM
If Girt was a Shamrock he would be sitting in the pound now talking about the price of cattle and joe cooney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 04:59:09 PM
Fcuk ...is Joe Cooney for sale?  :o

Is this a late transfer before the weekend? :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 26, 2008, 04:59:09 PM
Fcuk ...is Joe Cooney for sale?  :o

Is this a late transfer before the weekend? :D
I was once told by a fella from loughguile that if you are in the pound and dont like talking about cattle or joe cooney you are liable to get hit in the face with a shovel,i think cooney presented awards in loughguile years ago and they adopted him as their favourite son
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunloy on September 26, 2008, 07:17:11 PM
Agreed totally maxpower, its all habit forming,untill our players get into the habit of playing intense hurling and not expecting frees to accompany every tackle we will struggle at a higher level, another plus side to this is that eventually the dirty pulling etc will be erradicated as we'll learn the difference between intense, hard hitting hurling and dirty, niggly hurling

Good luck to all four teams this sunday, hoping for 2 good games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:16:58 PM
27th Sep 2008
15:30  Castleblayney v Latton O'Rahillys    5 - 6  13 - 2   6 - 5 
   
17:00  Clontibret v Carrickmacross    2 - 7  7 - 1  10 - 3 
   
17:00  Horeswood v Castletown    4 - 9  15 - 2  21 - 10 
   
17:00  Adamstown v Ballyhogue    1 - 5  9 - 1  4 - 1 
   
17:15  Navan O'Mahonys v Blackhall Gaels    4 - 9  15 - 2  21 - 10 
   
19:00  Cavan Gaels v Ramor    3 - 10  15 - 2  3 - 1 
   
20:00  Ilen Rovers v Douglas    8 - 11  7 - 1   11 - 8 
   
28th Sep 2008
14:00  Wolfe Tones v Summerhill    4 - 11  15 - 2  5 - 2 
   
14:00  Ballinderry v Slaughtneil    1 - 2  13 - 2  2 - 1 
   
14:00  Corofin v Cortoon    4 - 9  7 - 1  9 - 4 
   
14:00  Charlestown v Claremorris    8 - 11  7 - 1  11 - 8 
   
14:00  St Galls v Lamh Dhearg    1 - 6  10 - 1  9 - 2 
   
14:00  Tubbercurry v Coolera-Strandhill|    10 - 11  13 - 2  11 - 10 
   
15:00  Mattock Rangers v Newtown Blues    evens  13 - 2  4 - 5 
   
15:30  Garrycastle v St Lomans    1 - 3  15 - 2  11 - 4 
   
15:30  Killygarry v Denn    4 - 11  15 - 2   5 - 2 
   
15:30  Starlights v Sarsfields    1 - 4  9 - 1  10 - 3       

15:30  HWH Bunclody v Bannow/Ballymitty    4 - 5  13 - 2  5 - 4 
   
16:00  Mayobridge v Loughinisland    1 - 6   9 - 1  5 - 1 
   
16:15  Longford Slashers v Colmcille    4 - 6  13 - 2  6 - 4 
   
16:45  Western Gaels v Castlerea    8 - 11   13 - 2  11 - 8 
   
17:00  Tyrrellspass v Castledaly    3 - 10  8 - 1  3 - 1 
   
4th Oct 2008
15:00  Kilmacud Crokes v UCD    1 - 2  7 - 1  2 - 1 
   
15:00  St Oliver Plunketts v St Marys    2 - 5  15 - 2  12 - 5 
   
15:00  Ballyboden St Endas v Ballymun Kickhams    8 - 15  7 - 1  15 - 8 
   
15:00  St Vincents v Thomas Davis    1 - 3  8 - 1  11 - 4  
   
5th Oct 2008
14:00  St Patricks v Kiltegan    4 - 6  7 - 1  6 - 4 
   
14:00  Pearse Og v Killeavy    4 - 6  7 - 1  6 - 4 
   
15:45  Crossmaglen Rangers v Armagh Harps    1 - 14  11 - 1  8 - 1 
   

Club Hurling Matches CouponTime    Home Draw Away 
27th Sep 2008
14:30  O'Loughlin Gaels v Tullaroan    4 - 7 8 - 1  13 - 8 
   
15:00  Newmarket v Clatloe    1 - 4  10 - 1  10 - 3 
   
15:00  Clonoulty-Rossmore v Mullinahone    4 - 5  9 - 1   11 - 10 
   
15:30  Na Fianna v Kilmacud Crokes    10 - 3  10 - 1  1 - 4  ??
   
16:30  Loughmore/Castleiney v Cappawhite    1 - 7 12 - 1  9 - 2 
   
16:30  Ballyhale Shamrocks v Clara    1 - 10  11 - 1  6 - 1 
   
17:00  Craobh Chiarain v Crumlin    1 - 7  14 - 1  9 - 2 
   
17:00  Raharney v St Oliver Plunketts    8 - 13  9 - 1  11 - 8 
   
17:00  Birr v Kilcormac/Killoughey    1 - 3  9 - 1  5 - 2 
   
17:00  Liam Mellows v Beagh    5 - 6  8 - 1  11 - 10 
   
17:45  Kilmaley v Clonlara    8 - 15  10 - 1  13 - 8 
   
28th Sep 2008
14:00  Kinvara v Gort    10 - 11  8 - 1  evens 
   
14:00  James Stephens v Graigue Ballycallan    2 - 5  8 - 1  9 - 4 
   
14:00  Kilmallock v Adare    8 - 15  9 - 1  13 - 8 
   
14:30  St Vincents v Ballyboden St Endas    5 - 2  10 - 1  1 - 3       

14:30  Lucan Sarsfields v O'Tooles    11 - 5  9 - 1  2 - 5 
   
15:00  Kildangan v Toomevara    9 - 4  10 - 1  4 - 11       

15:15  Inagh/Kilnamora v St Josephs Doora Barefield    4 - 7  10 - 1  6 - 4 
   
15:30  Ahane v Garryspillane    4 - 11  10 - 1  9 - 4 
   
16:00  Sarsfields v Bride Rovers    1 - 3  9 - 1  11 - 4 
   
16:00  Loughrea v Craughwell    4 - 5  15 - 2   6 - 5 
   
16:00  Carrickshock v Fenians    1 - 2  9 - 1  7 - 4 
   
16:00  Loughgiel v Cushendall    10 - 11   8 - 1   evens       

16:30  Sarsfields v Drom & Inch    evens  9 - 1  10 - 11 
   
17:30  Portumna v Clarinbridge    1 - 7  11 - 1  9 - 2 
   
17:45  Clarecastle v Clooney/Quin    4 - 6  10 - 1   5 - 4 
   

whats the chances of these all avoiding defeat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 08:19:44 PM
Have you done all those in an accum milltown? !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:20:41 PM
was thinking about it bar the Dall and Loughgiel game, worth a fiver 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 08:22:17 PM
I popped my head into Paddy Power tonight and did the Dall at evens........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
tempting to hit them but have been cleaned out these last few weeks, tend to stay off it for a bit when suffering a slump :'(

though a fiver on the mad one is grand ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 08:30:53 PM
You will probably get beaten by some 1-10 shot !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:40:00 PM
aye my own club!!!

feckers are complaining about the free socks and shorts they got last night, hope they get beat, well i don't but it fecks me off, majority of them would struggle to pay membership
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:40:00 PM
aye my own club!!!

feckers are complaining about the free socks and shorts they got last night, hope they get beat, well i don't but it fecks me off, majority of them would struggle to pay membership

The hoors shouldnt be allowed to play if they havent played their membership, i would say there are a few on that football team of yours have some opinion of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 26, 2008, 08:54:02 PM
well to an extent the players are grand, they work tremendously hard, train 3 times a week and its paid off for them over the past 7 years. but with all clubs you get the odd tit. the worst are the hanger ons, boys are actually going for their 6 medal and in all those years have not kicked a ball in the warm up never mind a Championship game.

i could have trained all year and and turn out on Sunday, come prize giving I'd get myself a medal 8)

might do it next year, I'm young enough ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2008, 08:58:24 PM
Cushendall - Dirty Old Town Loughguile - Duellin' Banjoes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 28, 2008, 01:18:09 PM
Great day for the game
Good luck to both teams
Hope referee isnt a feature
Loughgiel to lead all the way and win by 7pts
2-14 to 1-10!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 01:47:43 PM
Cushendall by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
Cushendall 0-14 Loughguile 0-6, poor match. Loughguile are just not good enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 28, 2008, 05:45:35 PM
Very poor match that never really got going. Cushendall were stronger all over the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
The dall at a complete doddle. Has a team had to do so little hurling to win a championship? The same old body language was there from the start of the second half from Loughgiel who apart from a few gave up the ghost about 30 minutes too soon. Some very steady performances from the dall with Elliott, Graffin and McNaughton standing out for them, but in truth no one on their team was below par. The reality was they sensed the fear of losing from their opponents and took the game to loughgiel in all sectors of the pitch. Thought Loughgiel substitutions didn't help their cause especially Benny Dillon who has been very consistent all year. Missed a couple of balls and next thing he's on the line. Didn't make sense to me although it never was going to have an affect on the result though.

Agree with the other comments that overall it was quite a poor game for the neutral
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 28, 2008, 07:57:27 PM
Loughgiel just not up to the mark with or without Watson, the Dall should have been further ahead at the mid point but were guilty of over elaborating in attack and wasting chances . Elliott was powerfull, also really enjoyed Graffin's display, best CB in Antrim at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 28, 2008, 08:21:31 PM
for once the half time in the football game was more exciting than the hurlinhg game. very poor spectacle for the supporters, game of defences and Cushendall held sway. credit to cushendall and ya have to wonder about Loughgiel, we would have put in a better performance that what happened there.

embarrassed for them totaly. but the thing is they will be back next year for sure :-\

i'll get a proper report in tomorrow, headin to bed had a couple already :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 08:49:10 PM
I cant understand why some posters on here were tipping Loughguile to win, what were you basing it on? Who was going to get the scores? This wasnt the capitulation that Loughguile suffered in 2006, they are just an average team when Watson isnt firing on all cylinders. The standard was pretty poor and Cushendall would need to improve to get out of Ulster, the likes of Brian Delargy, Declan Mc Killop and to a lesser extent Conor Monty posed very little threat to Loughguile. Cushendalls win was built on the success of their half back line, Mc Manus cleared a pile of ball but did a lot of it unopposed. Couldnt understand Loughguile leaving young Campbell there as long. In fairness their options were limited. As for the "Who the f**k is Winker" chant by a section of the Cushendall crowd, keep it for the soccer matches.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 28, 2008, 08:59:23 PM
Poor final. When Watson does not score 10 points for loughgiel they have very little left. Neil McManus is very strong in the tackle, won every 50-50 and every 40-60 come to that. Shane McNaughten the only forward on show who could score from play, got 0-6 by my counting as much as the whole loughgiel team. Overall C,dall much too strong Mc Manus, McNaughten, K Elliot and Sean Delargy very good everyone else did what was needed, the dall won every 50-50 all over the pitch. For loughgiel, 0-15 conceded is just about acceptable although I thought Johnny Campbell struggled today and did not catch one puck out as far as I could see. Declan McKillop did a good wrecking job there for the dall. As fot Loughgiels forwards, the less said the better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 28, 2008, 10:08:45 PM
Tis smee.

Boy, a boys, a boys!

A very poor game witnessed today.  Lougheil, appeared to be  washed out following on from their superb performance against Dunloy.  Watson and McCloskey, were certainly a great loss.  Having said that, fair play to Cushendall, they performed well and were certainly the better team on the day!  Good luck to them.

The referee, despite all ye begrudgers and whingers prejudging the referee during the course of last week should be ashamed of yourselves.  In my opinion the referee had a great game. He let the game flow where possible and controlled the game throughout.  Fair play to him also!

Why is it, ye fellas are always very quicjk to blow your mouths off and criticise others who are doing their bit for the Association, County and the game of hurling?  You really should think twice and engage the brains before the gobs!  I doubt some of ye guys (big women) would be man enough to take whistle in hand and put yourselves in the black & green position in a juvenile game, never mind a All County Hurling Final.  Shame on ye all.  Let this type of claptrap, character assassination and abuse and passing judgement on a good referee cease!

Remember, I could be watching ye in the futrue, but I doubt an of ye are man enough for the refereeing role!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 10:14:57 PM
The ref had an ok game,he didnt have a great game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 28, 2008, 10:39:55 PM
assessor stop talking keek, more referees on this forum than ya think, Garret did really well, a lot to do with the game and tempo (which was a lot slower than Wed night)

was slagging Paddy Quinn after the football match.........7 MINUTES INJURY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WILDNESS

Will  be hard to judge the Dall  after this match, could be Dungivens year, did anyone think bringing on Jackie Carson(although in is day great) was a statement of "we've nothing coming through" give youth  a chance please.

Graffin was my man off the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 11:00:41 PM
I thought that too milltown, they couldnt have too much faith in their bench when they brought big Jackie on. Mc Manus was my man of match,Graffin played well but his man was out in front of him a fair few times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 28, 2008, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 28, 2008, 08:49:10 PM
I cant understand why some posters on here were tipping Loughguile to win, what were you basing it on? Who was going to get the scores? This wasnt the capitulation that Loughguile suffered in 2006, they are just an average team when Watson isnt firing on all cylinders. The standard was pretty poor and Cushendall would need to improve to get out of Ulster, the likes of Brian Delargy, Declan Mc Killop and to a lesser extent Conor Monty posed very little threat to Loughguile. Cushendalls win was built on the success of their half back line, Mc Manus cleared a pile of ball but did a lot of it unopposed. Couldnt understand Loughguile leaving young Campbell there as long. In fairness their options were limited. As for the "Who the f**k is Winker" chant by a section of the Cushendall crowd, keep it for the soccer matches.........

Totally agree with the first couple of points; just who are going to get Loughgiel's scores when Watson is not fit? Until they resolve that problem and get a real leader or two on the pitch i cant see them winning a championship unless they are gifted it. C'dall just did what they had to do as they should have won by much more given their half back line was totally dominant in the 20 minutes after half time. And what did Loughgiel do to break that dominance down they brought off a midfielder who had done ok and brought on a minor who hardly touched a ball!

Cushendall will have to improve to see off Kevin Lynches and whoever wins Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 28, 2008, 11:17:30 PM
he was, but never did anything when he had the ball, good defending when ya give man ball and still be able to take it off him, you should appreciate that minder ;)

that will only hinder them in the next round. big difference come Ulster, we brought on CJ and he scored two wonderfull scores, ya need a great bench now, not Jackie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2008, 11:18:09 PM
I don't think you could say looking at the minor roll of honour that Cushendall have nothing coming through...

In saying that they did have 3 goalies on their sub bench which is strange and would say they're maybe struggling for squad numbers.

Talking of youth I didn't notice that brick fella on the bench and he looked like a great prospect - where is he?

Cushendall are a very good team but they do lack a "focal point" in their FF line. This was possibly why they brought on Jackie I thought. I wonder ho many medals he has now - bound to be a brave haul.

I couldn't see Dungiven beating that Cushendall team. I know Loughgiel were poor but that looks like a very capable Cushendall team. The defense is very solid and Paddy Magill / Shane McNaughton look to be maturing into good forwards. McNaughton still does waste a lot of ball but he'll win so much with his pace / movement he'll make up for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 29, 2008, 08:54:37 AM
Like most posters I was dissapointed with the final, where was all the loughgiel aggression we saw in semi. They played like a team with more a fear of defeat than a desire to win. Loughgiel are very dependant on jc eddie and winker, none of whom where able to contribute significantly.

Overall the dall where convincing winners and won every battle perhaps none more obvious than on the sidelines. A terrific defence with scullion incredibly under rated at full back, elliotts point was thee class moment of game and graffin and mcmanus were excellent.  Cushendall went in strong in centre field and it proved decisive.

I thought shane mc naughton was the match winner, 6 points from play and kept the scoreboard ticking over at vital, no doubt had Watson managed that he. Would have got man of match

Actually think ref did just ok, he blew a fair few times when there was no advantage to having a free, the one where dd was just about to drive a long one from the hand and he gave a free slowed the game down and allowed the dall to get organised. Also baffled by the yellow card for hitting waterboy, I didn't see but if he hit it's red if he didn't it's nothing! But to be fair didn't get much wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 29, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
Feel sorry for Loughguile....6 finals in a row!

Wasn't at the game....what was the incident with the waterboy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2008, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 29, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
Feel sorry for Loughguile....6 finals in a row!

Wasn't at the game....what was the incident with the waterboy?

I didnt see what happened but by all accounts Neil mc Garry the Loughguile FB punched him in the gob. I think "waterboy" was Mickey Mc Manus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2008, 10:36:51 AM
I think waterboy took a dive...

I think McGarry put his hand on his face and pushed it away. Glad he didn't get sent off for it to be honest. The waterboy should have been put outside the wire though.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
So why is that Loughgiel have equited themselves well when they have played Dunloy in finals yet roll over and die against the likes of Cushendall and Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2008, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
So why is that Loughgiel have equited themselves well when they have played Dunloy in finals yet roll over and die against the likes of Cushendall and Rossa?

Its hard to say Skull, a problem they seem to have in a physical contest is they will come off second best. Take young Campbell at #11 yesterday, he could turn out to be a good player but he is very slight. Another problem is scoring forwards, i think they had Tony Mc Cluskey/Mc Killop (not sure of surname) who is an excellent prospect but he is a back and was playing forwards yesterday. Im not sure if there were any mental scars yesterday, they just dont have the players but due to the poor quality of hurling in Antrim at the minute they will probably be in the final again for the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 29, 2008, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
So why is that Loughgiel have equited themselves well when they have played Dunloy in finals yet roll over and die against the likes of Cushendall and Rossa?

Strange alright, the green and gold seems to bring out the bite in them, which was badly missing yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 29, 2008, 12:15:51 PM
The waterboy took a dive...may have looked like like he was punched. Those supporters chanting those songs...just pissheads, who started drinking about lunchtime.As been said on here before..every club has them.

On to the hurling, I thought Loughgiel had improved this year,obviously not, they looked very flat..but bottom line is they have too many average hurlers....every good club team has 1 maybe 2 average players...Loughgiel have 5/6. All the talk about Loughgiels workrate..Cushendall's workrate was superb...their discipline excellent..Only 3(or4) points from frees is very good regardless of how poor the opposition was.

All the talk on here/general public was how Loughgiel were going to win, some people seemed to forget the talent in the Cushendall team..McManus,Graffin, Magill, Shane, Karl...they are very talented hurlers. Minder, I thought Brian Delargy had a good game, scored two good points, tackled very well...alot of stuff that went unnoticed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 29, 2008, 12:41:19 PM
The sad thing about loughgiel is that there will be more than enough people in the village who are happy enough to get beat yesterday as long as Dunloy didnt win.

The thing is that they have no one to look to as a leader, Watson good player but not a guy you would look to, to win you a tight championship game.

Dunloy Cushendall would have been a better final, cushendall must have been loving the build up sitting back and waiting on a half crocked team coming at them that couldnt win a raffle in casment.

Begs the question is this the handiest championship ever won? Not that they will care in cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 29, 2008, 05:35:19 PM
listen to the snobs on here, no chanting or 'scoccer' stlye Ole's, i'd be more worried about the standard of the games, bored fans making a bit of craic was all that was. the games were done and dusted early on.

as for Cushendall they won all the key  areas, played the right men in the key positions and choked Loughgiels game plan. the intensity was gone, though predicted before the game. 

for Cushendall it's about time they made the breakthrough, no more good defeats, they have not peaked this year and won yesterday in second gear, time for some serious stamina training, i believe Micky Culbert is doing that at the minute and no better drill instructor.

workout how to get those vital goals and the Dall will make a fist of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 29, 2008, 07:13:36 PM
thought so myself hardstation, also reading the irish news they seemed to think that loughgiel had put the ball in the net and the ref somehow disadvantaged them, i might be wrong but i didn't think it was a goal.

Also declan mckillop may well have been pulled down in the box in the second half

Agree with MR that Cushendall really need to make a push on at the AllIreland stage, its Munster competition this year for Ulster (which is no gimme for the dall) so it will be difficult but the potential is there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 29, 2008, 07:41:05 PM
Connacht,    Leinster, or Munster it does not really matter where they come from, to stay away from the Ballyhales or James Stephens of theis world or the Portumna's aint a bad thing. though the Munster teams will always be tough.

as for the penalty, well peoples views were different on it where i was standing, made no difference in terms of the game. 

the water boy went down very easy it was a case of hand on face and pushed. kid should not have been near there anyway, should have got the line for interfering. somebody asks for a drink of water ya give it to him, county final or not. you'd have smaked him yourself for being cheeky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on September 29, 2008, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 28, 2008, 10:08:45 PM
Tis smee.

Boy, a boys, a boys!

A very poor game witnessed today.  Lougheil, appeared to be  washed out following on from their superb performance against Dunloy.  Watson and McCloskey, were certainly a great loss.  Having said that, fair play to Cushendall, they performed well and were certainly the better team on the day!  Good luck to them.

The referee, despite all ye begrudgers and whingers prejudging the referee during the course of last week should be ashamed of yourselves.  In my opinion the referee had a great game. He let the game flow where possible and controlled the game throughout.  Fair play to him also!

Why is it, ye fellas are always very quicjk to blow your mouths off and criticise others who are doing their bit for the Association, County and the game of hurling?  You really should think twice and engage the brains before the gobs!  I doubt some of ye guys (big women) would be man enough to take whistle in hand and put yourselves in the black & green position in a juvenile game, never mind a All County Hurling Final.  Shame on ye all.  Let this type of claptrap, character assassination and abuse and passing judgement on a good referee cease!

Remember, I could be watching ye in the futrue, but I doubt an of ye are man enough for the refereeing role!

Assessor, you really are a ballbag :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 29, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
Hi there fella, ye are getting a little personal don't ye think?  I thought is was a prerequisite for the do-heads lik ye who use this shite to lambast referees.

Wise up, you illiterate, illegitimate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 08:38:01 AM
Assessor if you disagree with some posters comments then focus on them specifically. Insert their quotes into your reply and make your arguments in a clear and consise way. The drivel from your last post (and many of your 13 others) doesn't win any debates, as well as make you look like a bit of an eejit

Am I the only one who cringes at this "tis smee", "boys a boys" shite?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 30, 2008, 09:08:52 AM
Re. the assessor.
Smells like he's been sent by "Big Brother to keep an eye on the restless natives. An "Agent Provocateur" me thinks. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 30, 2008, 09:58:41 AM
Any thoughts on the Intermediate and Junior finals, watched St.Pauls v Glenravel a couple of weeks ago, wasnt much of a contest but St.Pauls looked very strong physically and don't hold back on the timber(within the rules mostly), Half backs are very solid, Paul Donnelly and the Left corner fwd are a handfull up front, though the Full fwd they had on was woefull, but I think he's a stand in.
Still fancy the Ts to overcome Rasharkin with their attacking options, Rasharkin are good defensively but their forwards are ordinary, Teresa's are a better balanced team overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
Can't comment too much as I haven't seen much at this level. Was impressed with St Pauls in their semi with ahoghill. Played with a good level of intensity and worked the ball into their danger area very well. Was actually trying tyo understand why they couldn't hack it in Div 1, because if they played with the same gusto they would definately get results. Was great to see Paul Donnelly out hurling. Looks as lively as ever as well

Haven't seen St Threasa's at senior, but they played our U21's last year and I was really impressed with the way they played the game. Won the game by the skin of our teeth in the end. If these clubs can keep these young players and get them to believe that they put it up to any opposition if they put the effort in then Antrim will be all the stronger for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 30, 2008, 10:31:52 AM
St Teresa's are a young fit team with great potential. The have some nippy forwards who will get you scores from play and a solid defense. They should have too much for Rasharkin despite Rasharkin playing at a higher level in the league. Rasharkin's biggest problem will be keeping their discipline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 08:38:01 AM
Assessor if you disagree with some posters comments then focus on them specifically. Insert their quotes into your reply and make your arguments in a clear and consise way. The drivel from your last post (and many of your 13 others) doesn't win any debates, as well as make you look like a bit of an eejit

Am I the only one who cringes at this "tis smee", "boys a boys" shite?

It is me pal! (Tis smee, tis smee, tis smee).  You must be really cringing now, I hope!

I am not here to win debates unlike you who thinks that people are really going to listen to the claptrap you post frequently.  Ask youself, who is the real eejit here pal?

Just here to keep you all in check and listen to the rumour mongering, character assassinations and insignificant tittle tattle that is aired on this wasters forum.  The forum and it's shallow minded contributors does not really align itself much to the greater benefit of 'Antrim Hurling' but primarily to criticise, lambast and ridicule individuals who are not here to debate or defend themselves.

Like others, shame on you.

Tis smee, The Assessor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on September 30, 2008, 01:16:17 PM
Last Man and Skull couldnt agree more

I think this agent provocateur is sent to spy on the board, maybe from the new watch tower!

This is a discussion board and is here for people to discuss issues surrounding antrim hurling, if you dont have an opinion or cant defend it then what are you doing here?

If you dont like it then dont come on it or post on it.

If you disagree with something that is said then by all means state your point thats how reasoned debate works.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 30, 2008, 01:16:17 PM
I think this agent provocateur is sent to spy on the board

I know what you both mean. He actually comes across as too stupid. If he is wouldn't you think that our county board should focus their attentions on people in our county who actually don't have an opinion on Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 30, 2008, 01:16:17 PM
I think this agent provocateur is sent to spy on the board

I know what you both mean. He actually comes across as too stupid. If he is wouldn't you think that our county board should focus their attentions on people in our county who actually don't have an opinion on Antrim hurling.

Hi there NumSkull, tis smee.

Are you really that stupid to think that the opinions and you of your cohorts on here really matter or will be listened to?  Now there is something for ye all to DEBATE.

Go ahead, debate away, nobody will listen to ye anyway!   Why don't ye all try, if any of ye have that capacity to debate something worthwhile, meaningful, positive that will actually stimulate some real debate instead just having that cheapshots.  I guess not, I am of the opinion from what I can see that, that level of intelligence does not exist on this forum at all.

Ye are all ill informed and easliy manipulated half wits with nothing much better to do.  Dole spongers or Civil Servants I guess!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: NAG on September 30, 2008, 01:16:17 PM
I think this agent provocateur is sent to spy on the board

I know what you both mean. He actually comes across as too stupid. If he is wouldn't you think that our county board should focus their attentions on people in our county who actually don't have an opinion on Antrim hurling.

Hi there NumSkull, tis smee.

Are you really that stupid to think that the opinions and you of your cohorts on here really matter or will be listened to?  Now there is something for ye all to DEBATE.

Go ahead, debate away, nobody will listen to ye anyway!  Why don't ye all try, if any of ye have that capacity to debate something worthwhile, meaningful, positive that will actually stimulate some real debate instead just having that cheapshots.  I guess not, I am of the opinion from what I can see that, that level of intelligence does not exist on this forum at all.

Ye are all ill informed and easliy manipulated half wits with nothing much better to do.  Dole spongers or Civil Servants I guess!

:D :D :D
15 posts of unintelligible drivel from you and you want us to listen to this comment? What a feckin eejit you are. If theres nothing here to interest you, then why don't you clear off? To date you have offered this disscusion board nothing but childish patter and laid bare your obsession with referees. Contributors like yourself will not be missed

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 30, 2008, 05:30:46 PM
Lads you're feeding the troll. Ignore him and he'll go away, or maybe he'll keep posting, but who cares?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 30, 2008, 05:42:42 PM
Both Intermediate and Junior hard to call.

If the Gorts manage to curtail the left corner forward (is it Geezer? they could be in with a real shout).

As regards the junior a very interesting mix. I fear for St Theresa's though and hope that they will be ready to mix it. Rasharkin have a dangerous habit of bringing opposition down to their level...i.e. by cutting them up.
Rasharkin's centre half back Hasson is a great player at this level and if he is not allowed to clear as much ball as he normally does St Theresa's could be in with a shout.


On reflection I realise I probably haven't praised Cushendall enough for the senior win. The completely nullified Loughgeil, who seemed for some reason to be on the road to win this year. Admittedly Winker was not at his best and when on was marked tightly (sometimes cynically enough) by Micky Monty but the players mentioned before had great games - Graffin, McManus, Elliott, S McNaughton.
Hope the win and the manner in which they did it...relatviely without fuss will be good sign going forward.
Some serious work and they might be able to challenge further than Ulster.

I heard Dungiven have been on the razzle for 2 1/2 days since their final...thought they would be aiming higher given how close they were to Dunloy last year.
Should be an interesting match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 05:54:12 PM
Cushendall should beat Dungiven handy enough I reckon. They have peaked at the right time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 06:17:56 PM
Assessor, you seem to have got a rise from a few of our regular posters. I was at the game and have a few views of my own, the game was poor, promised everthing and delivered nothing in the line of great hurling. Loughguile never got out of the blocks, Wednesday night may have told. You seem to defend and are share a common bond with the referees. Who was the lad that came on with the linesman over the waterboy incident? Don,t know what he was doing there, he continually was up and down the line? What was he doing? He was wearing the referees top?

Do you feel Cushendal Should have had a penalty?

Do you feel Loughguile should have been given theirs?

Referee had,nt much to do, what do you feel?

Can cushendal go any further?

Look forward to a constructive responce, prove to my associates that you are a gaa man through and through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 06:17:56 PM
Assessor, you seem to have got a rise from a few of our regular posters. I was at the game and have a few views of my own, the game was poor, promised everthing and delivered nothing in the line of great hurling. Loughguile never got out of the blocks, Wednesday night may have told. You seem to defend and are share a common bond with the referees. Who was the lad that came on with the linesman over the waterboy incident? Don,t know what he was doing there, he continually was up and down the line? What was he doing? He was wearing the referees top?

Do you feel Cushendal Should have had a penalty?

Do you feel Loughguile should have been given theirs?

Referee had,nt much to do, what do you feel?

Can cushendal go any further?


Look forward to a constructive responce, prove to my associates that you are a gaa man through and through.

Hi there, now someone with a bit of sense and intelligence at last!  Don't worry about me, I can take the abuse and the misguided comments that are bandied about on this site.  It,s the sort of thing Referees and Assessors have to put up with all the time.


For those who did not realise, I did make my views known on the game on Sunday and yes I did post my comments earlier, despite what you and others have said.  Too busty listening to the normal claptrap, I think.

However, to answer your questions and your observations.

1. Yes, in my view the referee was right to award Cushendall the penalty, no question about it from where I was sitting.

2. Again from where I was sitting, I think the referee got it right, no question about it.  from what I could see the Loughguile player lay down on the ball initially.

3. The referee, despite a poor game of hurling I feel where possible let the game flow as much as he possibly could have given the circumstances.  I thought he was very fit and always up with the play also.  All in all I think he had a good game and clearly their were no major incidents or anything of a contentious nature.

4.  Cushendall may possibly win Ulster, beyond that however, I really cant see them progressing any further.  A few key players yes, but not enough, pace, physicality or guile if you ask me.

I certainly agree with you that Loughguile appeared to dispel all their energy and craft in the sole effort to beat the local parish rivals Dunloy.  They were really running on empty on Sunday and had nothing left  for the Final encounter.  A real pity though.  I thought this might be their year given their superb performance against Dunloy.  On that performance alone, Loughguille would have given the best  in the country a run for their money!

Your further observation I find really interesting. It was difficult during the second half in particular to determine who was the linesman and who was the fourth official.  As I understand it, the fourth official is a new kid on the block without very much experience and somewhat over zealous when it came to the big occasion.  Clearly, questions would have to be asked about his suitability in officiating at the county's premier hurling event.  Like you, I was a little concerned to see him up and down the line with the linesman.  I was even more concerned when he went onto the field of play, a real no, no if you ask me!  But sure, we all have to learn!

To conclude however, that's why ye guys need people like me to keep both ye and the novice referees/linesmen in check.  Despite my big shoulders and thick skin, (I can take it!) if ye guys continue to lambast are good referees, you8 may end up with a monkey, like the fourth official (whoever he was?) refereeing your games in the future.

So be kind to our referees and especially kind to the ASSESSORS also!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2008, 08:06:36 PM
Did Cushendall get a penalty?I must have missed that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 08:15:57 PM
Excellent synopsis my friend! You are a real dark horse/rough diamond indeed. I have just been checking the GAA website on 4th officials and you are 100% correct! maybe you actually are a real assessor? He has no responsibility what so ever, except to deal with subs and time keeping. County obviously made a poor decision putting him in.Who was he?

I totally concur with your opinion on Cushendals progress, could i be so bold as to correct you and say he awarded Loughguile the penalty not cushendal, typo I'm sure. Yes as i have previously said, i have watched 3 guys referee this year from antrim and in my humble opinion Elliott and Duffy are good referees outside antrim, hate to see some lads have a pop just for the sake of it! I watched the football for a short while, and the referee in that never moved the whole second half! Never up with play, but thats football.

Look forward to your contributions in the future, don,t get the time to post as often as i would like, appreciate your thoughts and informed opinions Assessor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
Apologies, ye folk.  I got my wires crossed over the penalties question.  Yes Loughguille warranted getting the penalty and no, Cushendall  did not deserve a penalty from where I was sitting.  In my view a Cushendall player actually lay down on the ball.

See, I am not infallible.  I stand corrected a chara!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 08:21:34 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 08:15:57 PM
Excellent synopsis my friend! You are a real dark horse/rough diamond indeed. I have just been checking the GAA website on 4th officials and you are 100% correct! maybe you actually are a real assessor? He has no responsibility what so ever, except to deal with subs and time keeping. County obviously made a poor decision putting him in.Who was he?

I totally concur with your opinion on Cushendals progress, could i be so bold as to correct you and say he awarded Loughguile the penalty not cushendal, typo I'm sure. Yes as i have previously said, i have watched 3 guys referee this year from antrim and in my humble opinion Elliott and Duffy are good referees outside antrim, hate to see some lads have a pop just for the sake of it! I watched the football for a short while, and the referee in that never moved the whole second half! Never up with play, but thats football.

Look forward to your contributions in the future, don,t get the time to post as often as i would like, appreciate your thoughts and informed opinions Assessor.

I haven't a clue who the fourth official was, but clearly a poor choice!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 01:04:40 PM

I am not here to win debates unlike you who thinks that people are really going to listen to the claptrap you post frequently.  Ask youself, who is the real eejit here pal?

Just here to keep you all in check and listen to the rumour mongering, character assassinations and insignificant tittle tattle that is aired on this wasters forum.  The forum and it's shallow minded contributors does not really align itself much to the greater benefit of 'Antrim Hurling' but primarily to criticise, lambast and ridicule individuals who are not here to debate or defend themselves.

Like others, shame on you.


Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 07:35:32 PM
Your further observation I find really interesting. It was difficult during the second half in particular to determine who was the linesman and who was the fourth official.  As I understand it, the fourth official is a new kid on the block without very much experience and somewhat over zealous when it came to the big occasion.  Clearly, questions would have to be asked about his suitability in officiating at the county's premier hurling event.  Like you, I was a little concerned to see him up and down the line with the linesman.  I was even more concerned when he went onto the field of play, a real no, no if you ask me!  But sure, we all have to learn!

To conclude however, that's why ye guys need people like me to keep both ye and the novice referees/linesmen in check.  Despite my big shoulders and thick skin, (I can take it!) if ye guys continue to lambast are good referees, you8 may end up with a monkey, like the fourth official (whoever he was?) refereeing your games in the future.


It's great to see we can all be guilty of it Assessor. Don't preach if you're not holy big man

Well done though on your first mature post. May you have many more of them

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
Assessor and Davinci, shut it please, :-[

unfortunately when people take up positions within the county, be they county players, referees or unpaid county committie men, then they are the ones whom as the title suggest will be debated about, yes some people (myself included) will have a pop, borne out of frustration at the handling of things. none of the posters on this site wish antrim hurling bad. a lot of views are constructive and the debates are well thought out. some banter to lighten the day also but in general no malice, though minder does have a hard on for KMcG :P

Now the fourth official has only been refereeing a couple of years and whether he knew the rules regarding what a fourth official duties are is down to the  experienced referees on show. so maybe it was not his fault. dont give off about a unpaid official and expect us posters to do the same, glass house and all that.

I'll be watching youse two  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
Assessor and Davinci, shut it please, :-[

unfortunately when people take up positions within the county, be they county players, referees or unpaid county committie men, then they are the ones whom as the title suggest will be debated about, yes some people (myself included) will have a pop, borne out of frustration at the handling of things. none of the posters on this site wish antrim hurling bad. a lot of views are constructive and the debates are well thought out. some banter to lighten the day also but in general no malice, though minder does have a hard on for KMcG :P

Now the fourth official has only been refereeing a couple of years and whether he knew the rules regarding what a fourth official duties are is down to the  experienced referees on show. so maybe it was not his fault. dont give off about a unpaid official and expect us posters to do the same, glass house and all that.

I'll be watching youse two  :o

Now we have he self opinionated St. Gall's man from down the row, telling us to 'shut up'.  I ask you! And also from what I am informed, like the fourth official, a realitively new and inexpereinced referee to boot!  Are you tryingto tell me, a couple of years refereeing and still does not know the role and responsibilities of the fourth offical.  Lets get real here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 09:17:25 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 08:15:57 PM
Excellent synopsis my friend! You are a real dark horse/rough diamond indeed. I have just been checking the GAA website on 4th officials and you are 100% correct! maybe you actually are a real assessor? He has no responsibility what so ever, except to deal with subs and time keeping. County obviously made a poor decision putting him in.Who was he?

I totally concur with your opinion on Cushendals progress, could i be so bold as to correct you and say he awarded Loughguile the penalty not cushendal, typo I'm sure. Yes as i have previously said, i have watched 3 guys referee this year from antrim and in my humble opinion Elliott and Duffy are good referees outside antrim, hate to see some lads have a pop just for the sake of it! I watched the football for a short while, and the referee in that never moved the whole second half! Never up with play, but thats football.

Look forward to your contributions in the future, don,t get the time to post as often as i would like, appreciate your thoughts and informed opinions Assessor.

Jesus not you as well davinci. ???

Of course the rest of us "have a pop just for the sake of it" [sarcastic  ::)] but I struggle with how you would then define your comment about the football final referee? What would that be then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
Hi MR.

As a novice referee yourself, don't be getting ahead of yourself.  You will be watching nobody.  Remember, someday when you c**k up big time, the avid GAA followers in this county will be queuing up to log on to GAAboard.com.   They will be going at you with all barrels blazing and with no mercy for ye at all.  What will be so light hearted about that rookie?

We'll see how thick skinned and broad shouldered you are, when it's your turn!

Remember, they will all be watching ye and only to ready to pounce!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
Easy guys, i must apologise but sunday was such a disappointment, the football was poor and then anticipating a great game of hurling it fell flat! I meant no malice in my comment Skull, there seems to be enough going on. I think by the look of it MR has turned assessor to the Dark Side again. Assessor you observations on the game where 1st class, don,t get drawn in to personal attacks again, MR is the daddy of the site, and I'm just a blow in. What part of north antrim are you from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:05:40 PM
The self righteous Assessor wades through the regular posters on this thread once again. FFS will you focus your derision and make your point directly to the specific posters, who in your opinion "go at people with both barrell with no mercy" instead of this broad bush approach you continually take?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: davincicode on September 30, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
Easy guys, i must apologise but sunday was such a disappointment, the football was poor and then anticipating a great game of hurling it fell flat! I meant no malice in my comment Skull, there seems to be enough going on. I think by the look of it MR has turned assessor to the Dark Side again. Assessor you observations on the game where 1st class, don,t get drawn in to personal attacks again, MR is the daddy of the site, and I'm just a blow in. What part of north antrim are you from?


Hi Davinci

I think in itself, declaring I am from North Antrim is enough for the moment on this forum.  Some suspect and malicious characters on here!

Slán, a chará.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:05:40 PM
The self righteous Assessor wades through the regular posters on this thread once again. FFS will you focus your derision and make your point directly to the specific posters, who in your opinion "go at people with both barrell with no mercy" instead of this broad bush approach you continually take?



Hi NUMSKULL (fecking squared).

I was directing my post to MR.  Did I not say MR. in my response.

Read the bloody thing again.  Wind your neck in also or get a ladder and get over yerself. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
Hi MR.

As a novice referee yourself, don't be getting ahead of yourself.  You will be watching nobody.  Remember, someday when you c**k up big time, the avid GAA followers in this county will be queuing up to log on to GAAboard.com.   They will be going at you with all barrels blazing and with no mercy for ye at all.  What will be so light hearted about that rookie?

We'll see how thick skinned and broad shouldered you are, when it's your turn!

Remember, they will all be watching ye and only to ready to pounce!


What about you reading it first? Pay particular attention to the two scentences which I've highlighted. I await your reply
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
doing the referee thing for me was a chance to put something back in and take some stick, as i was good at giving it ;)

surprised myself at how well i enjoyed it. if the regular posters want to come on and have a pop at me well, so what. it wont be the first and I've not fallen out with too many.

i personally have no love for any club outside of my own. i care not one jot who wins or loses. i only want to call it as i see it. and while getting that final was great it's not the reason why i did it. it was a promise to certain people that I'd give it a go.

oh and I'm thick skinned alright. would be a good idea not get personalised on this site Assessor. he without sin cast the first stone!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 01, 2008, 12:34:16 AM
2008 Railway Cup Hurling

The following Antrim Players have been asked to attend;

Loughgiel
Johnny Campbell
Eddie McCloskey
Neill McGarry

Dunloy
Paddy Richmond
Paul Shields

Cushendall
Sean Delargy
Paddy Magill
Aaron Graffin
Neill Mc Manus
Karl McKeegan

Ballycastle
Ryan McGarry
Neill McAuley   ------- never played for the county all year with injury
Cormac Donnelly

St Galls
Karl Stewart

Rossa
Mickey Kettle

Lamh Dhearg
Ciaran Herron
Brendan Herron  ------- never hurled this year for the county
Michael Herron

Tir Na Nog
Michael Magill ------ was this boy not dropped off the county panel


Is SW managers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 01, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
yeah they are,

dont start going into that squad or there are a few more boys that havent struck leather all year and played most games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 01, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
I'd say they named they named 19 players from Antrim incase some dont commit...Cushendall, Kevin Lynches & who ever comes out of Down.

I seen in other county threads..they've done a team in the championship..Anyone like to post one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2008, 12:36:40 PM
I know there are others who do not as I have watched them play from first hand, but can someone tell me if all 3 herron bros are deserving of a place on merit? And why include Eddie McC who has obviously got a longish term injury in the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 01, 2008, 01:36:36 PM
There are probably as many people discussing the Railway cup here as there will be at the matches........Waste of time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 01, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
In all seriousness why pay the tournament at all, it has lost complete and utter relevance in the modern GAA and in Ulster terms, with the turnouts that were recorded at some of the sessions last year the players have lost interest also.

Instead of putting up a free tour for the winners, why not pump the money into grass roots hurling in places like donegal or monaghan and try and improve the game instead of constantly giving benefits to the top group of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2008, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
Hi MR.

As a novice referee yourself, don't be getting ahead of yourself.  You will be watching nobody.  Remember, someday when you c**k up big time, the avid GAA followers in this county will be queuing up to log on to GAAboard.com.   They will be going at you with all barrels blazing and with no mercy for ye at all.  What will be so light hearted about that rookie?

We'll see how thick skinned and broad shouldered you are, when it's your turn!

Remember, they will all be watching ye and only to ready to pounce!


What about you reading it first? Pay particular attention to the two scentences which I've highlighted. I await your reply


Still waiting. Wheres them big broad shoulders at now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 01, 2008, 02:22:18 PM
dont get him started again skull
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2008, 03:04:59 PM
I'd like him to reply. The guy rips through ALL the posters of this board to get his point across in regards to critisism of referees. Never mind that it's OK for him to do it. I'm not accepting it. If he feels his position is so strong then he'll try and win the discussion. If not he'll stay silent. It's a win win either way if you ask me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2008, 06:21:11 PM
Could he be the reincarnation old Joe Stalin. He shows similar traits with the over zealous zeal he has when attacking a dissenting voice. Watch out lads or you could be exiled to a far off place devoid of hurling and broadband.........Leitrim. Watch your back ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 01, 2008, 06:48:50 PM
is there talk of changing league structures with hurling, have clubs voted for change again? with only 5 Antrim teams in div one next year that means only 5 teams playing senior championship, pretty poor in my opinion, but thats the standard and it will only get worse due to the gulf in class, this can only get better if more antrim teams were to play the top teams.

my own club in its early days were poor, but after a few seasons we could compete against teams that were wining championships. yes we had the odd hammering but as seen this year in the county champions can get a hammering in the league.

my own club will be concentrating on inter. and trying to bring through some of the younger players, but i just feel its the wrong direction
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 01, 2008, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 01, 2008, 02:12:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
Quote from: Assessor on September 30, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
Hi MR.

As a novice referee yourself, don't be getting ahead of yourself.  You will be watching nobody.  Remember, someday when you c**k up big time, the avid GAA followers in this county will be queuing up to log on to GAAboard.com.   They will be going at you with all barrels blazing and with no mercy for ye at all.  What will be so light hearted about that rookie?

We'll see how thick skinned and broad shouldered you are, when it's your turn!

Remember, they will all be watching ye and only to ready to pounce!


What about you reading it first? Pay particular attention to the two scentences which I've highlighted. I await your reply


Still waiting. Wheres them big broad shoulders at now?

Hi NUMSKULL

If I knew what your actual question was I could maybe answer.  I am not aware that you were directing a question at me of any significance which required the need for me to answer.  You do ramble on a bit and it's difficult to gauge where you are coming from?  You are all over the show man!  Take it easy. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2008, 08:06:12 PM
I think I was at the meeting last year when the current structure was ratified,while I am not a fan of the whole div2/3 idea I can live with it as long as it moves to the next stage the following season where it shakes down to a separate 2 and 3. Can't see what the point is in changing again after a year. Let the hare sit I say and see where we are after year 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2008, 09:34:40 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 01, 2008, 07:59:03 PM

Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2008, 10:52:32 PM

What about you reading it first? Pay particular attention to the two scentences which I've highlighted. I await your reply


Hi NUMSKULL

If I knew what your actual question was I could maybe answer.  I am not aware that you were directing a question at me of any significance which required the need for me to answer.  You do ramble on a bit and it's difficult to gauge where you are coming from?  You are all over the show man!  Take it easy. 

I didn't ask you a question. I awaited your response. I can't be responsible for the fact you didn't understand the difference. Just to clarify, I'll summarize where we're at Assessor, because I want to discuss this with you rather than join you in bring this down to a slagging match like you are attempting to do.

I replied to your post to milltown row and accused you in that post, of once again voicing your broad brushed opinion of the regular posters to this thread and suggested that you be a little more specific with your comments (for the second time btw). You replied to me stating that you were directing your post to MR (which indeed you were) but this fact was irrelevant as it had nothing to do with the points I was making to you. If you only wanted MR to view it then use the PM facility. You seem to have difficulty grasping the fact that if you post publicly that we all can take a view on what you post and who you direct the points you make to has got sod all to do with it.


Now all I want from you is some sort of coherent response in relation to what we (I) are discussing. Would there be any chance of that or am I wasting my time?

Talk about having to spell it out  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 01, 2008, 11:40:26 PM
OK NUMSKULL.

First and foremost, I will direct my comments, opinions and observations to those contributors as and when I please.  Secondly, I don't need to be told by you who I can and cannot respond to in this forum.  Since when have you become to regulator of this forum, telling posters which facilities, such as IMs they should use in response to other contributors? ???  Now, if you wish to debate with me the content of my response to MR, you should ask a little bit more politely, instead of making forceful demands.  You should also stop and consider for a moment, whether or not, I may want to discuss or debate with you at all.  I will be the judge of that, if you don't mind!



 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2008, 12:36:03 AM
Great dodging at every turn Assessor. I've heard enough now. The referees assessor is a juan kerr  :D :D :D. Is it 4 weeks for verbal abuse?
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 02, 2008, 08:23:10 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2008, 12:36:03 AM
Great dodging at every turn Assessor. I've heard enough now. The referees assessor is a juan kerr  :D :D :D. Is it 4 weeks for verbal abuse?
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Hi Numskull

Funny you use the term Jaun Kerr!  You know, I was told this site was full of Juan Kerr's and that believe it or not, it was the key reason why I came to have a look at this forum.  You have really confirmed this for me.  So ye will be one, I wont be watching in future as your contributions here are totally meaningless and devoid of any sense at all.

By the way, I am not a referee either.  Do you honestly think I would be silly enough to wear the green and balck in order to be verbally abused by the greatest Juan Kerr of them all on this forum.  I suppose It could be worse, I could be a priest from Dunloy! or even a sheep from Dunloy!

I rest my case.

Slá anois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on October 02, 2008, 08:24:30 AM
I saw both the intermediate semifinals and I'd be tipping St Paul's tonight.  I thought they performed much  better as a team and I think that if you took Nipper Quinn out of the Gorts team there'd be very little left.  Against Sarsfields there was no end to the amount of frees they conceded and I think if they haven't improved on that tonight they'll be in trouble.

In the Junior game I can't see past St Teresa's.  I wasn't at their semifinal, but as someone on here said they gave a Cloughmills team (who have already beaten Rasharkin this year) a lesson in tactics.  I think this is their first year back in Junior after they won it a few years back and I know they beat a couple of teams at the level above - Sarsfields, McDermotts and maybe 1 or 2 others.  As someone also said, discipline could decide this - Rasharkin's has been known to be very poor and St Teresa's always seem to be the sort of team who would rise to it!

So there you go, St Paul's and St Teresa's for me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 02, 2008, 10:17:13 AM
Agreed Sail in, hope they both do it. It will be great for hurling in St.Pauls if they can do it tonight as their seniors have always been the poor relations to the footballers. They have always had decent hurlers but the pressure on dual players has meant they have under achieved. Bound to give hurling a better profile in the club and hopefully help rejuvenate their juvenile set up. Teresa's are an improving side and have good management who know how to organise a team to play to its strengths, so hope they do it to.

Ps. Assessor, chip on both shoulders or what!!! Looks like you came on to the board for one thing only.....to get the boot into Skull...
I take it yous have sparred before. Why can't you just debate the points sensibly and with some sense that all of us here are hurling men and have the best interests of hurling at heart. I would doubt that the efforts of most contributors to this board are limited to posting on here in fact I would wager that most are up to their neck playing ,coaching, refereeing, volunteering etc etc
Maybe I am wrong but would your time not be better served to use this board to debate valid points and maybe use some of the feedback in your position of "High Office".  
By the way "Paper refuses nothing", so it's easy to get personal on paper but ask yourself what you would say face to face. :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 02, 2008, 11:19:22 AM
St pauls used to have a great underage setup. While they coruaged dual players the club was always very focused on football. St pauls along with most clubs in belfast need a decent youth sturcture in place to encourage hurling and with the final aim being competetive in the antrim champsionship.

This assessor person has unsettled a few of ye, it'll do ye no harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
Assessor if you have nothing to add/ or report back to Johnny Ping then........

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/dr_ducks/random/HowAboutaNiceBigCupofShuttheFuckUp.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on October 02, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
WELL SAID MINDER
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 02, 2008, 02:14:47 PM
Hi Numskull & Minder

Sarcasim, fould language and insults, a very low and limited from of wit!

Grow Up ye big Jessies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2008, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 02, 2008, 02:14:47 PM
Hi Numskull & Minder

Sarcasim, fould language and insults, a very low and limited from of wit!

Grow Up ye big Jessies.

Its almost as bad as illiteracy.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 02, 2008, 09:00:43 PM
any scores from casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 02, 2008, 09:05:55 PM
2-12 gorts 2-4 st Pauls,

having watched both semi finals and played against Gorts i thought they would be the better team on the night. thats two titles in the last few years, could do well in Ulster. they are a bit off the all ireland stage, no depth outside of their best 15. good luck to them all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:21:05 PM
Who won the junior?

Quote from: milltown row on October 02, 2008, 09:05:55 PM
2-12 gorts 2-4 st Pauls,

having watched both semi finals and played against Gorts i thought they would be the better team on the night. thats two titles in the last few years, could do well in Ulster. they are a bit off the all ireland stage, no depth outside of their best 15. good luck to them all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2008, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:21:05 PM
Who won the junior?

Quote from: milltown row on October 02, 2008, 09:05:55 PM
2-12 gorts 2-4 st Pauls,

having watched both semi finals and played against Gorts i thought they would be the better team on the night. thats two titles in the last few years, could do well in Ulster. they are a bit off the all ireland stage, no depth outside of their best 15. good luck to them all the same

Rasharkin 0-9 St Teresas 0-10 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:26:04 PM
Thanks minder. low scoring, anyone impress in it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2008, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:26:04 PM
Thanks minder. low scoring, anyone impress in it?

Just saw the result, its windy and would freeze the nuts of you tonight so wouldnt be a great night for hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:29:00 PM
agreed. thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 02, 2008, 11:07:07 PM
good double for st teresas  coming up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 02, 2008, 11:30:29 PM
just in from Casement - firstly it was freezing alright!  2 very poor games of hurling no doubt the weather was a major contributor to that.

IHC

Gort got 2 early goals that were sloppy enough playing with the wind, then added 6 points - St. Paul's had a penalty saved and that was as close as they came to scoring in the first half.  Was expecting a better show from them in the second half but it never came - 12 points down at half time they started the second half with their corner fwd getting the line for a second yellow (i cant remember him getting his first).  gort na mona always looked like threatening the st. paul's goal against the wind as they were fitter and played with great intensity.  st. pauls will be very disappointed with their performance despite making the scoreboard look a bit more reasonable at the end.  Gort definitely worthy champions.  Nipper (14 but was all over the pitch) and the corner forward were very good for Gort.

JHC

With wind advantage Rasharkin failed to build a big lead in the first half, despite  nullifying St. Teresa's tactic of creating space from their semi-final win - they should be kicking themselves for losing this one as the only reason they lost was their discipline - a problem they have quite often.  St. Teresa's didnt rise to the dirt for the most part and Rasharkin played into their hands allowing Maguire to punish them with frees.  The point that won the game for Teresa's was classy - Maguire cut a ball from a sideline about 30m out on the stand side and in the closing minutes Rasharkin came within a whisker of putting the ball in the net (which would have been an injustice).

Game ended with the St. Teresa's keeper getting a straight red when it looked like he was kicked by a Rasharkin player - he will miss out on the Ulster game on Sunday now most likely.

Hard to tell how much better both games would have been in better conditions - best of luck to both teams in their Ulster campaigns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on October 03, 2008, 08:10:10 AM
Nothing much to add to the points made by Aontroim ...

IHC

My prediction yesterday was wrong but St Paul's were very poor.  Didn't score in the first half although it was playing into a gale and they did have a penalty saved - didn't even get a point from it!  The first half also contained the incident where the St Paul's corner forward must have picked up his first yellow card, although, like you, I didn't see it, and neither did any of the fellas I was sitting with.  I can only assume that the referee either did show him a yellow, or intended to, that time over in the far corner where he attempted to double the ball on over his head.  Like you say, it was strange to see him get the line when it happened at the start of the second half.  The 2 goals given away by St Paul's were poor enough too, the first was a high ball in which the corner forward picked up and got inside his man very easily and slotted in past the keeper.  The second was another high ball in over the heads of the defense which one of the Gort's forwards pulled on first time.

JHC
Not a great game but was always close which made it fairly exciting, at least in comparison to the first game.  Rasharkin pulled a man out the field leaving St Teresa's with an unmarked fulll back who was able to clean up everything that went in.  Rasharkin had a couple of chances to level it late on - one from a free on the 45m line away out to one side, which didn't make the distance when struck, and then a 65 which went wide at the death.  Saw a few Setanta people at the game last night - they're keen enough - heading up to Belfast on a week night when the weather's like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Donagh on October 03, 2008, 09:12:04 AM
Was looking forward to going to those games tonight (Friday). What sort of Mickey Mouse setup have Antrim got - how did they not know the Ulster had been set for this Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2008, 09:49:38 AM
If only there was a paid secretary to look after things then I'm sure this type of thing wouldn't happen  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Donagh on October 03, 2008, 10:40:22 AM
I hear St Teresa's have a league game on Sunday as well. They'll be doing well to play in two games at the same time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 03, 2008, 01:08:57 PM
In regards to the Ulster dates Donagh i was chatting to someone last night who told me that the Antrim fixtures were released before the Ulster club fixtures came out - but needless to say there should have been enough time to re-arrange and pull them forward a week or two to give the 2 teams a chance to prepare for Sunday's ulster games.  Obviously the league games were put in there before knowing who would be playing in Ulster - Gort are also down for a game on Sunday.  And if St. Teresas had of been beaten last night i would have imagined the JFC Final would have been put in alongside the IFC on Saturday evening as a double header.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 03, 2008, 01:46:03 PM
Donagh are you involved in any hurling clubs around Lurgan/Portadown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!

Hi Davinci

I was not at the games lkast night due to familt committments.  I understand I did not miss much though?

A very poor night for hurling.  You really have to question whether hurling should ever be played in such cold, wet and windy conditions.  I hear the games were very poorly attended also?

Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 03, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!

Hi Davinci

I was not at the games lkast night due to familt committments.  I understand I did not miss much though?

A very poor night for hurling.  You really have to question whether hurling should ever be played in such cold, wet and windy conditions.  I hear the games were very poorly attended also?

Cheers.

It wasnt raining last night, as for the weather conditions, unfortunately historically October would not be our warmest month.............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!

Hi Davinci

I was not at the games lkast night due to familt committments.  I understand I did not miss much though?

A very poor night for hurling.  You really have to question whether hurling should ever be played in such cold, wet and windy conditions.  I hear the games were very poorly attended also?

Cheers.

It wasnt raining last night, as for the weather conditions, unfortunately historically October would not be our warmest month.............

It was raining in North Antrim though!  Despite no rain, I am sure the wind and the cold had a major impact on the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 03, 2008, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!

Hi Davinci

I was not at the games lkast night due to familt committments.  I understand I did not miss much though?

A very poor night for hurling.  You really have to question whether hurling should ever be played in such cold, wet and windy conditions.  I hear the games were very poorly attended also?

Cheers.

It wasnt raining last night, as for the weather conditions, unfortunately historically October would not be our warmest month.............

It was raining in North Antrim though!  Despite no rain, I am sure the wind and the cold had a major impact on the game?

Of course it would but what are the alternatives?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2008, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2008, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 03, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 03, 2008, 07:06:44 PM
Assessor where are you? Waiting on your overview of last nights games at casement, was there just wanted to know your opinions!

Hi Davinci

I was not at the games lkast night due to familt committments.  I understand I did not miss much though?

A very poor night for hurling.  You really have to question whether hurling should ever be played in such cold, wet and windy conditions.  I hear the games were very poorly attended also?

Cheers.

It wasnt raining last night, as for the weather conditions, unfortunately historically October would not be our warmest month.............

It was raining in North Antrim though!  Despite no rain, I am sure the wind and the cold had a major impact on the game?

Of course it would but what are the alternatives?

I take your point a chara.  Maybe if the hurling leagues and championships were played ealier in the spring and summer.  Although, we cannot always predict the weather here anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 03, 2008, 11:31:56 PM
Glenariffe are set for the drop. Will they be too good for the rest next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 12:05:17 AM
no, standards drop and so will Glenariffe's. when playing higher standard teams  your pre season is usually geared towards wining league games early on. the main teams are training for championship. i thought glenarriffe would make an impact at some point but like most teams the quality players grow older and the chance is gone.

they will stick around the 2nd div for a few years like ourselves. should be a competitive inter. championship. Gorts seem to be deludung themselves into thinking they can compete at senior. if Rossa Naomh Gall and Glenarriffe play inter next year Gorts would not have a chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2008, 12:29:44 AM
I would love an overlap competition to help the second division teams get used to playing at a higher level an give them an incentive to push on if they have the talent to. We also need someone at county board level actively encouraging clubs to prepare their teams better and encourage teams to aspire. Really grates me when I hear admin on the county board website continually tell us that "the clubs voted for the way things are. What about someone with vision leading and driving this county out of it's slumber. They have a serious role to play to get clubs out of their comfort zone and get the st teresas, GNM, Clooney Gaels, Randelstown playing at a higher level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 01:00:30 AM
only way to do it and it will make us have competitive championships is if we adopt certain things that work with other counties, the great Teddy McCarthy (hero of mine at the time) played for a few teams, played for his local team and for championship played for two separate senior teams (hurling football).

what I'm saying is that if Belfast had 4 or 5 senior hurling teams that solely played hurling we would compete with north antrim teams, also if the other lesser north antrim teams amalgamate then senior championship would be better, more players playing at senior level would make us better as a county. at the minute we have far too many teams in Belfast. a south west select would compete at senior, at least 4/5 teams in Belfast would compete. IE: the best from Rossa and Naomh Gall and Gorts one team. st Johns st Pauls lamhs and st Terseas.

i could go on, certain clubs have 3/4 players that could fit into senior teams and improve them. clubs need to think outside the box
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2008, 01:08:15 AM
Milltown...clubs can never do that separate thinking on their own. It would take a driver of change to be tasked with looking at the posssibilities and trying then to develop ideas that would encourage the clubs to get behind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on October 04, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
A good few years ago Armoy were involved in amalgamtions at senior level, normally with Carey and Randalstown It never really got off the ground and we never won a match in the senior championship. Its all fine in theory but in reality you had guys playing and training together who two weeks later would be running through each other in the IHC, rows tended to develop along club lines, our goalies better than yours etc. You ended up with three centre half backs playing and no corner forwards. Good players were shoehorned into positions they did not like to get them on the team. Not sure what the answer is but amalgamations is not a panacea.
By the way am I the only person on here who does not believe that the gorts will be cannon fodder in the SHC. They were in a minor final this year won the IHC and I believe they will win Div 2 next year, they will certainly be in the top two or three. Having watched some of the senior teams this year, Rossa, Ballycastle, St Johns I have to say that the gorts are no worse than a lot of teams in the SHC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2008, 12:38:41 PM
SCB i think you will find the Gorts would struggle badly,  good minor teams very rarely correlate to senior success especially in Belfast. If Glenariffe, Rossa,St Galls concentrated on winning Div 2 next year i couldnt see Gorts even finishing in the top 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 04, 2008, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 04, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
A good few years ago Armoy were involved in amalgamtions at senior level, normally with Carey and Randalstown It never really got off the ground and we never won a match in the senior championship. Its all fine in theory but in reality you had guys playing and training together who two weeks later would be running through each other in the IHC, rows tended to develop along club lines, our goalies better than yours etc. You ended up with three centre half backs playing and no corner forwards. Good players were shoehorned into positions they did not like to get them on the team. Not sure what the answer is but amalgamations is not a panacea.
By the way am I the only person on here who does not believe that the gorts will be cannon fodder in the SHC. They were in a minor final this year won the IHC and I believe they will win Div 2 next year, they will certainly be in the top two or three. Having watched some of the senior teams this year, Rossa, Ballycastle, St Johns I have to say that the gorts are no worse than a lot of teams in the SHC.

Very good SCB, This a very important stage for the club. THey have to focus on the strong minor team bring them into senior, they will have to work hard to keep boys away from demon drink. I believe they win the div 2 next year (allow glenarrife mite beg to differ with me on that) and should arrange a few challange games against some of the bigger clubs. its in the interest of both clubs to do this. It bring another team up to standard it will further antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
lads my own team played them when they were unbeaten, i went to watch the game and was asked to play as we were struggling, played the full match and we beat them handy, they were undefeated up till then. says it all. as for competing at senior level don't make me laugh. they would not get a point or get within ten points of any of the teams. took us 5/6 years to get close to teams at senior level. and the year we get 11 points, level with the Johnnies we get relegated :'(

no a good competitive div 2 with teams like Rossa St Galls Tir naOg, Glenariffe, and gorts would.

six teams competing next year at senior, Ballycastle, St Johns, Dunloy, Cushendall, Loughgiel and Gorts (because they won Inter. this year) open draw and they get Loughgiel up there
Minder is right, good minor teams means nothing we had them for years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 04, 2008, 03:02:50 PM
There goes the 'Numbskull' blowing his mouth off again.

How does he propose the County Board can prepare teams better for hurling?  What about your vision Numbskull?  Such grandiose ideas you are suggesting, yet you want others to take up the gauntlet.  This kind of talk is cheap indeed.  Why don't you go to the County Website, put it writing or go and meet the County Board and attempt to articulate your ideas and suggestions face face to face. Nah, I don't think so somehow, that would be too manly for ye!

By the way, I see the illiteracy continues to plague you!  Capital 'T'' St. Teresa's and Randalstown. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
proper channels Assessor, ideas need to be voiced at club meetings and proposals sent with the clubs delegates to county meetings were they are voted on. now with your knowledge i'm surprised at ya.

lend me your thoughts on how to improve the standard both club and county in hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 04, 2008, 05:14:56 PM
Leinster here we come  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 05:18:14 PM
we'll get Galway again in Saltill for sure :o  sure it will be a great weekend away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2008, 05:29:12 PM
It will be one less excuse for S & W . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 04, 2008, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: groundlie on October 04, 2008, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 04, 2008, 03:02:50 PM
There goes the 'Numbskull' blowing his mouth off again.

How does he propose the County Board can prepare teams better for hurling?  What about your vision Numbskull?  Such grandiose ideas you are suggesting, yet you want others to take up the gauntlet.  This kind of talk is cheap indeed.  Why don't you go to the County Website, put it writing or go and meet the County Board and attempt to articulate your ideas and suggestions face face to face. Nah, I don't think so somehow, that would be too manly for ye!

By the way, I see the illiteracy continues to plague you!  Capital 'T'' St. Teresa's and Randalstown. 

Ballbag

Another mouth piece with a limited vocabulary.  Seems to me to be a characteristic of this forum and it's posters!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2008, 11:49:02 PM
I don't think you're going to get an answer to your question milltown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 04, 2008, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
proper channels Assessor, ideas need to be voiced at club meetings and proposals sent with the clubs delegates to county meetings were they are voted on. now with your knowledge i'm surprised at ya.

lend me your thoughts on how to improve the standard both club and county in hurling.

It will take more than just coaching which seems to be at different levels of intensity throughout the county.

More importatly though.  Hurling needs a greater commttiment of resources and development both within Ulster and Chondae Antroim.  North Antrim teams will continue to dominate Aontroim and Ulster hurling, as hurling is not treated as secondary in North Antrim.  A greater emphasis on football, prevails within the county and throughout Ulster.  Football has the higher priority throuhgout Ulster and also within Antrim.  It is not a level playing field when it comes to hurling.

Put it this way.  Our county has had greater success in hurling than it has ever had in hurling.  Look how many hurling All stars we have had compared to football!  Look at Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Cushendall and Rossa.  They have competed at the top level in hurling within the All Ireland club Hurling championship.  Other than Naomh Eoin and Naomh Gall, they are the only clubs who have made the breakthrough at that level.

Put it another way.  The Kilkennys, Tipps, Galways, Waterfords, Wexfords, Limericks and Clares of this world dont have the problem we have in terms of the committment to hurling.  Because of our dual club/player sceanrio relating to both footbal and hurling in Aontroim and throughout Ulster.  Hurling is not treated as secondary in the aforementioned traditional hurling counites.  In the same light, football is not treated as secondary within counties such as Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Armagh.

I think within our county playing both codes is detrimental more so to hurling.  As long as the hurling fraternity within Antrim and those other Ulster counties who are trying to develop hurling, remain happy with their lot, hurling will continue to be treated secondary and as an inconvenience in both Antrim and Ulster. It is my view, that hurling is are only hope within Aontroim.  We have continually competed at the higher level in hurling i.e. Division 1 & 2 National League.  Playing in Leinster I believe will enable us to increase the intensity, pace, skill levels and directness of our hurling.  It is only having this exposure in Leinster, competing at a higher level among other traditional hurling counties, will we be able to hold our own among the hurling elite.  Lets get our u16s, minor and U21s back into Leinster also.

I really think if we as a county want to progress in hurling, it's a case of make your mind up time.  Is it going to be hurling or football.  It's is my view, that hurling is where our strenghts lie.  But others may have a different opinion than me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 05, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2008, 11:49:02 PM
I don't think you're going to get an answer to your question milltown.

Wrong again NUMBSKULL!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2008, 12:27:57 AM
Assessor you are a shit stirring nob jockey, who's only agenda is to ruin the standard of this board. It would appear that you are succeeding. They always say never to argue with a fool but it would appear that you've got your axe to grind and won't let it go. I'm not prepared to put up with it any longer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2008, 12:56:42 AM
Assessor, have we not been playing "traditional" counties for years in the league and championship,what have we learnt? How to seek out the best player and swap their jersey perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 05, 2008, 11:03:57 AM
"Another mouth piece with a limited vocabulary.  Seems to me to be a characteristic of this forum and it's posters!"

Our you exempt from this sweeping statement, Assessor?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 05, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
TheSkull, i do believe that the Assessor seems to be getting under your skin? Assessor what you say i must agree with to a large extent, however i feel that Ulster Council should take the lions share of the blame, for the state that Hurling is in. Hurling in Ulster is not very PC! When football pulls in on average 8 times the revenue then it becomes a simple question of economics!

Hurling will never improve as long as the people in Armagh are driven by Revenue! Its as straight and simple as that, the GAA in Ulster has never had as many full time paid coaches. Simply look at MC Crory Cup and Magean Cup, Ulster Colleges reflects Ulster Council, they are worse than the Government! At least they shaft you face to face. Too many people involved with their own agendas, look at the St Bridget's scenario! I work with lads attached to this club, its all about money and presence, its worse than the Opus Dea!

Assessor, you have brought a bit of bite to this board, however i would like to see how well you are linked to what happens in Antrim, look at the football thread its dying on its feet.

A lot of lads/lassies post on this board, however i feel the majority take the AL la carte approach, how dirty do most of you get your hands and really get involved at grass root level? What have you done to effect change?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 05, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
Assessor, you have brought a bit of bite to this board, however i would like to see how well you are linked to what happens in Antrim, look at the football thread its dying on its feet.

A lot of lads/lassies post on this board, however i feel the majority take the AL la carte approach, how dirty do most of you get your hands and really get involved at grass root level? What have you done to effect change?

thats pants Davinci and you know it. most of the lads here have or still involved with club coaching and other duties that keep their club going, others may have committie roles and county posts.

in Antrim change is slow due to the clubs looking to keep themselves happy and mainly not wanting to change things, take the rules away from the clubs, when a county excective is voted in let them change things for the better instead of letting football clubs vote on hurling issues and vice versa. change can only happen from within, the ulster Council will never help. so do it ourselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 05, 2008, 01:23:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 05, 2008, 12:27:57 AM
Assessor you are a shit stirring nob jockey, who's only agenda is to ruin the standard of this board. It would appear that you are succeeding. They always say never to argue with a fool but it would appear that you've got your axe to grind and won't let it go. I'm not prepared to put up with it any longer.

I really cant say that I will be sorry to see you go, a chara!  You can actually talk dyslexic . One down, but I have still some way to go.  Remember, progress and change is inherently slow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
Lads, I come on here and debate issues with people who show others proper respect whilst posting on this board. Passionate views are all well and good as long as people are genuine and respectful as is a bit of banter. But when ever someone joins this board from day 1 and shows no respect for the other people who use it, then engages in a campaign of antagonising and trying to get the rise on the individuals who point this out to him, then there comes a point where it is difficult to stay calm in the face it. If it happened in the street it would warrant a slap in the mouth, so I don't see why I have to put up with it here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 05, 2008, 05:55:31 PM
HT
Gort Na Mona - 0.14
Cuchullains - 0.2

FT
Gort Na Mona - 1.24
Cuchullains - 0.11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 05, 2008, 06:00:59 PM
we'll not argue over it  :D

Gort won easy anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 05, 2008, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 05, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
Lads, I come on here and debate issues with people who show others proper respect whilst posting on this board. Passionate views are all well and good as long as people are genuine and respectful as is a bit of banter. But when ever someone joins this board from day 1 and shows no respect for the other people who use it, then engages in a campaign of antagonising and trying to get the rise on the individuals who point this out to him, then there comes a point where it is difficult to stay calm in the face it. If it happened in the street it would warrant a slap in the mouth, so I don't see why I have to put up with it here.


[Edited Mod3=
That sounds to me like very threatening and agressive language.  Now you are beginning to sound like the corner boy I thought you were.  That sort of threatening talk in my view is more more aligned to others sports.  Maybe you should go join the likes of a Cliftonville/Linfield site!   >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 05, 2008, 07:52:26 PM
Hello Assessor can yourself and skull stop slagging eachother off, doing my head. Its a bit childish for two smart people. Man up and get over it - both of you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2008, 08:50:27 PM
just got a text from one of the seniors, Rasharkin spanked our senior team, ya couldn't make it up, fair play Rasharkin.

seniors missing a lot but fairs dues.

i was busy with the Endas beat also :-[ think i'll rest my legs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 06, 2008, 09:35:48 AM
Milltown - pretty poor result from your seniors in all honesty, even if they were missing a few. Injuries, avoiding injuries for the football, couldn't be arsed?

Rasharking are going to stay up (and fair play to them as they will probably just have beat what was put in front of them) because of wins against LD and St Galls, two teams who they arguably wouldn't get within ten points of if they had fielded. proper sides.
Glenravel are going to go down because of that reason as well.
Glenravel's whole year of training hard, travelling from North Antrim across the county has actually come down to two sides not fielding strong teams and Rasharkin getting the points to stay up.
I have no real connection with Glenravel but if I was on the end of that I'd be pretty gutted and feel a little bit cheated.

The debate about playing in the wind and rain of October/November will rage on but personally I don't mind it, it keeps me out of trouble and gets me out of the house but the main reasons I'm not a fan of the season dragging out is because of:
1. Teams who are safe putting out shells of sides;
2. Teams seeing what the wider picture is and 'gifting' a result;
3. and similarly teams not showing up for games.

Most of us will have suffered on the end of this or our clubs have partaken in it in some shape or form but its not an element of our winderful games that is exactly wonderful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on October 06, 2008, 10:05:50 AM
It may be a bit sad congradulating my own team, but i just want to say well done to our boys o thir promotion form div 4b. regardless of standard or expectations, we still had to do a job to get out of it and progress. hopefully we can carry on this good run to next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 06, 2008, 12:51:59 PM
Just for you Bredagh Gael86!

Tremendous display by Gort Na Mona yesterday. Great discipline and team work. This team should win Ulster and may go further.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/markheron133/SOj9yVGVY9I/AAAAAAAADbI/5jMM-n0G7-I/s576/DSC_0036.JPG)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 06, 2008, 01:03:28 PM
Lecale, i was playin yesterday against Gort, they were awesome but to be fair to the gort manager he came in and said it was the best they had ever played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2008, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 06, 2008, 12:51:59 PM
Just for you Bredagh Gael86!

Tremendous display by Gort Na Mona yesterday. Great discipline and team work. This team should win Ulster and may go further.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/markheron133/SOj9yVGVY9I/AAAAAAAADbI/5jMM-n0G7-I/s576/DSC_0036.JPG)

Good to see Mc Collum still plugging away he was a great servant to Glenariffe when he joined us and is that big Allys baldy nut in the background?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 06, 2008, 01:37:34 PM
Good to see that Bredagh are pushing strong and having some success.

This is why the Belfast Strategy must be delievered on soon, we need a seperate document to chart how we are going to lift the GAA up in Belfast espcially the hurling. We need this to be followed by a decent amount of money not to promote the games but to drive them forward modernise the clubs and make it a vibrant successful part of the GAA once again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchy1 on October 06, 2008, 01:42:22 PM
Glensman what can you do, we played lamhs week before football final and they fielded weakened team, understandably.
yesterday galls turned up late with fifteen men & karl stewart had to go off after 5 mins with blow to nose, never reappeared, galls played with 14 rest of match. galls played rightly until second half, they were 1 down at ht. they have bigger fish to fry and are sitting ok in hurling league.
to be fair, they fielded a handful of footballers, cj, ciaran ga-ga, sean burke, anto healy & karl stewart.
when we played lamhs they didnt play any footballers at all.
if only we had of scored 2 more last thursday night, when it mattered.

glenravel are on downward spiral in both codes, regelated in div2/3 hurling & bottom of div 2 in football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on October 06, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Was suprised to see that Rasharkin - St Galls result too.  We have Rasharkin this saturday evening at our place
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2008, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2008, 01:25:18 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 06, 2008, 12:51:59 PM
Just for you Bredagh Gael86!

Tremendous display by Gort Na Mona yesterday. Great discipline and team work. This team should win Ulster and may go further.


Good to see Mc Collum still plugging away he was a great servant to Glenariffe when he joined us and is that big Allys baldy nut in the background?

Liam's had more clubs than Jack Nicholas  :). A great hurler who was one if the best readers of the game I've seen in Antrim. Never pulled a dirty stroke either (even playing for glenariffe  :P)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 06, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
He must be in a small band there Skull  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
Our boys arent dirty, just stupid  :) Liam was a good lad, used to travel up and down to training from Belfast and at that time he had a young family, we had fellas sitting in Waterfoot that we would have had bother getting out to training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2008, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
Our boys arent dirty, just stupid  :)

The two things are not mutually exclusive minder ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 06, 2008, 04:20:39 PM
Team                      Played         Won        Lost         Drawn     Points For  Points Against Points Diff Points

Ballycran                    13   13   0   0   341   141   200   26
Rossa                    14   9   3   2   280   219   61   20
Gort Na Mona    13   9   4   0   268   171   97   18
St. Galls                    11   8   2   1   214   174   40   17
Tir na Nog                    12   8   3   1   233   203   30   17
Gaeil Chluana    12   8   4   0   247   190   57   16
St. Pauls                    14   6   6   2   220   186   34   14
Shane O Neills    12   5   5   2   170   177   -7   12
Carey Faughs    14   5   7   2   229   272   -43   12
Armoy                    13   4   8   1   206   222   -16   9
Lamh Dhearg    12   4   7   1   149   179   -30   9
Sarsfields                    12   4   7   1   149   212   -63   9
Cloughmills                    12   4   8   0   168   240   -72   8
Cushendun    13   4   9   0   186   279   -93   8
Rasharkin                    12   3   9   0   131   210   -79   6
Glenravel                    15   1   13   1   172   288   -116   3

No that the championships are over its time to have a look at the league tables, with the bottom 8 in div 2-3 making up div3 next year.
Looking at the table looks like Lamb Dhearg will be playing div 3 next year.
Antrim website shows they only have one game remaining against Rossa, but they have only played 12 compared to Glenravel's 15  ??? possibly some results have still to be added.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 06, 2008, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 06, 2008, 01:03:28 PM
Lecale, i was playin yesterday against Gort, they were awesome but to be fair to the gort manager he came in and said it was the best they had ever played.

I would agree with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 06, 2008, 10:58:08 PM
Glenravel haven't been great shakes for donkey's years if they ever where but is there no way back for Cushendun? They must have nothing coming thru in the juveniles. It's not that long ago that they were a decent intermediate outfit with big danny kinney, aidan mort, rab laverty, the mcsparrans etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 06, 2008, 11:40:42 PM
If LD are division 3 it serves them right for playing a shell of a team v Rasharkin!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on October 07, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
I reckon that has the makings of a decent div 2 and div 3 next year. Despite many predictions to the contary there were not a lot of heavy thumpings in Div 2-3 this year as expected. The likes of Cloughmills, Rasharkin etc were reasonably competitve in most games. Ballycran were the best team in the league by some distance but this was to be expected, ulster finalists 2007. My predictions for 2009 Gorts to win Div 2 after winning Ulster intermediate title, St Pauls to be relegated. Carey to pip ourselves ( Armoy ) and Lamh Dearg to div 3 with Rasharkin in a relegation battle with Cdun. St Theresas are being promted into Div 3 aren't they? If they do they will ( could ) finish mid table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 07, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
I reckon that has the makings of a decent div 2 and div 3 next year. Despite many predictions to the contary there were not a lot of heavy thumpings in Div 2-3 this year as expected. The likes of Cloughmills, Rasharkin etc were reasonably competitve in most games.

Question to scb or anybody else who had experience of this league

Do you think if all clubs were surveyed on how they felt the div2/3 league went this year, would there be a majority who felt that the opertunity to fight for 8 top places was actually beneficial to hurling development? That is a straight question btw. Wondering if more clubs fought better thorughout the season when there were more places for the taking? If so, would it be an idea to plan to combine the leagues like this every 3/4 years, just to shake things up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 07, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
I reckon that has the makings of a decent div 2 and div 3 next year. Despite many predictions to the contary there were not a lot of heavy thumpings in Div 2-3 this year as expected. The likes of Cloughmills, Rasharkin etc were reasonably competitve in most games.

Question to scb or anybody else who had experience of this league

Do you think if all clubs were surveyed on how they felt the div2/3 league went this year, would there be a majority who felt that the opertunity to fight for 8 top places was actually beneficial to hurling development? That is a straight question btw. Wondering if more clubs fought better thorughout the season when there were more places for the taking? If so, would it be an idea to plan to combine the leagues like this every 3/4 years, just to shake things up?

Hi there buckwheat! Tis I.

Is this something you will be bringing to the county board along with your other grandiose ideas?  Shake what up? Dont you understand that their is a significant difference between 1st level and 2nd level hurling.  As an example, how is a team like GNM going to fair against the likes of Dunloy, Loughgiel, Cushendall etc.   Rossa would be more suited at this division than any other Belfast/South Antrim team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 05:25:33 PM
A Chairde Gael.                 WARNING - To all Posters
Your fellow poster theskull1 (Alias 'the NUMBSKULL') has been sending me some very interesting emails.  In fact they are very aggressive and threatening to say the least.  So be warned ye guys, be careful what ye say to this Psychopath, he may turn on you if ye don't agree with his 'claptrap'.

Just thought I would let ye all be aware of what ye are all dealing with here. I offered to meet him at a time and place of his choosing, but each time he said he could not make it, as he was attending his Line Dancing classes.

There ya go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 07, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
Interesting theory skull about shaking it up every 3 / 4 years.

Personally I think looking at it it has worked well. It has had things to play for all year. It has also shown that for one reason or another leagues weren't aligned properly beforehand with two prime examples being that Lamh Dhearg and Sarsfields have in the recent past been in division one. That would fuel the theory that it would be a good idea to do it every 3/4 years.

It probably has given weaker teams some hammerings however there've been enough games against more equal opposition that they're not all meaningless.

Also every guestbook you read about talks about Rossa and how they should be in division 1. If Rossa go to division 1 they'll have to work for it - if GNM are better placed in the league then they obviously deserve to be in division 1 before them. It's not their right to be in division 1. Next year will be interesting to see who goes up between them / Glenarriff / GNM.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 05:44:08 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Hi there buckwheat! Tis I.

Is this something you will be bringing to the county board along with your other grandiose ideas?  Shake what up? Dont you understand that their is a significant difference between 1st level and 2nd level hurling.  As an example, how is a team like GNM going to fair against the likes of Dunloy, Loughgiel, Cushendall etc.   Rossa would be more suited at this division than any other Belfast/South Antrim team.

Anything to get the rise Assessor even when you embarrass yourself in the process? Not one mention of Div 1 in my post, so it can only be down to the fact that you love stirring anything I post and can't see for the blinkers you have on.

Unless I'm missing something, I do believe my questions were in regard to the div2/3 leagues that were played this year. Also, I'm asking the questions because I don't know what the answer(s) will be.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
Assessor what are you basing the assumption on that Rossa would be better matched against "the big three" they didnt match too well against Cushendall in the championship. Are you basing it on a result against a poor St Johns team,a team should be in division one on merit. Rossa are not good enough for Division 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
Assessor what are you basing the assumption on that Rossa would be better matched against "the big three" they didnt match too well against Cushendall in the championship. Are you basing it on a result against a poor St Johns team,a team should be in division one on merit. Rossa are not good enough for Division 1.

Minder, a chara!

Rossa did not fair too well against Cushendall, I give ye that.  However, given their pedigree and experience, I firmly believe for the sake of hurling in Belfast that they are better suited in Div. 1.  GNM and  Glenarriffe I have seen this year and I am of the firm opinion that neither of them would be able to cope with the pace and physicality of Div. 1 hurling.  They should play in a Div. more suited to their respective capabilites.  This is only my opinion of course, ye dont have to agree with me.  So please dont be sending me threatening emails like the 'NUMBSKULL!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Reported to moderator

I wouldn't mind going back to my original questions about the possibility that the div2/3 leagues combining every 3/4 years if it was deemed by the majority to be beneficial to hurling development. Perhaps more of those with knowledge of this years div2/3 league can give their views?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 07, 2008, 06:44:51 PM
Jesus lads, this is getting out of hand! Anyway let me give you a laugh, please any loughguile posters feel free to comment. While leaving a meeting this evening, and it was quite a high level structured meeting, not blowing any trumpet either, i heard these two guys waiting for a lift discuss the 6 losses that loughguile have had, surprised to be honest i did,nt take them from a GAA background if you know what i mean, it was a large attendance at the meeting.

Anyway and this is no shit! the guys comment in response to the defeats i.e  6 in a row was,,,,,, that the builders while developing Fr Healy Park should never have cut down the Fairy Bush, and that it was comming back to haunt them again!!!!!!!!

Is this true? Down my way that was always a major no no, but seriously i could,nt believe that was the excuse now!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Reported to moderator

I wouldn't mind going back to my original questions about the possibility that the div2/3 leagues combining every 3/4 years if it was deemed by the majority to be beneficial to hurling development. Perhaps more of those with knowledge of this years div2/3 league can give their views?

Numskull

Ye are a real Charlatan!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 07, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
Assessor:

Whats your take on the weekend games in casement, think the Cushendal lads will be too much for the "Rebels" from dungiven. I see the lad magee is down to Ref, i think he has gone off the boil since Loughnans comments, seen him not long after at casement in Cork game, was not his finest hour at all! Not having a pop either, just think this game may go over the wall if he does,nt get a grip early, What is your assessment of him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2008, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: Assessor on October 07, 2008, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2008, 05:57:16 PM
Assessor what are you basing the assumption on that Rossa would be better matched against "the big three" they didnt match too well against Cushendall in the championship. Are you basing it on a result against a poor St Johns team,a team should be in division one on merit. Rossa are not good enough for Division 1.

Minder, a chara!

Rossa did not fair too well against Cushendall, I give ye that.  However, given their pedigree and experience, I firmly believe for the sake of hurling in Belfast that they are better suited in Div. 1.  GNM and  Glenarriffe I have seen this year and I am of the firm opinion that neither of them would be able to cope with the pace and physicality of Div. 1 hurling.  They should play in a Div. more suited to their respective capabilites.  This is only my opinion of course, ye dont have to agree with me.  So please dont be sending me threatening emails like the 'NUMBSKULL!

Assessor, Glenariffe have  have been able to cope with the "pace and physicality" of Division 1 for the last 6 years. Granted they have been poor this year. Indeed they were 5 up against Cushendall at HT in the Championship. The standard of Div 1 is not as high as you may think, an example being St Johns picking up plenty of points yet failing miserably against Rossa in the C'ship. As for Rossas "pedigree", 5 years ago perhaps but what pedigree do they have at present? A team should be in a Division on merit not what they achieved 20 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 07, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 07, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
I reckon that has the makings of a decent div 2 and div 3 next year. Despite many predictions to the contary there were not a lot of heavy thumpings in Div 2-3 this year as expected. The likes of Cloughmills, Rasharkin etc were reasonably competitve in most games.

Question to scb or anybody else who had experience of this league

Do you think if all clubs were surveyed on how they felt the div2/3 league went this year, would there be a majority who felt that the opertunity to fight for 8 top places was actually beneficial to hurling development? That is a straight question btw. Wondering if more clubs fought better thorughout the season when there were more places for the taking? If so, would it be an idea to plan to combine the leagues like this every 3/4 years, just to shake things up?

So far, I would say this has been a step forward in developing hurling throughout the county. It has brought teams down a peg or two and has also proved to more "weaker" teams that if the hard work is put in, they are able to compete with the so called elite. clubs have no excuse, they were told at the start of the year that 8 teams would form the new div2 and the bottom 8 would make up the new div3 with one team being relegated.
Teams need to realise that the league tables dont lie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: davincicode on October 07, 2008, 06:44:51 PM
Anyway and this is no shit! the guys comment in response to the defeats i.e  6 in a row was,,,,,, that the builders while developing Fr Healy Park should never have cut down the Fairy Bush, and that it was comming back to haunt them again!!!!!!!!

Is this true? Down my way that was always a major no no, but seriously i could,nt believe that was the excuse now!

Well theres always excuses when you don't want to find the real reasons. Dunloy had their hocus pocus excuses as well in years gone by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on October 07, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on October 07, 2008, 03:38:28 PM
I reckon that has the makings of a decent div 2 and div 3 next year. Despite many predictions to the contary there were not a lot of heavy thumpings in Div 2-3 this year as expected. The likes of Cloughmills, Rasharkin etc were reasonably competitve in most games.

Question to scb or anybody else who had experience of this league

Do you think if all clubs were surveyed on how they felt the div2/3 league went this year, would there be a majority who felt that the opertunity to fight for 8 top places was actually beneficial to hurling development? That is a straight question btw. Wondering if more clubs fought better thorughout the season when there were more places for the taking? If so, would it be an idea to plan to combine the leagues like this every 3/4 years, just to shake things up?

So far, I would say this has been a step forward in developing hurling throughout the county. It has brought teams down a peg or two and has also proved to more "weaker" teams that if the hard work is put in, they are able to compete with the so called elite. clubs have no excuse, they were told at the start of the year that 8 teams would form the new div2 and the bottom 8 would make up the new div3 with one team being relegated.
Teams need to realise that the league tables dont lie!


I was hoping that the extra incentive to fight andtry and get into the top 8 places would have mean't that even the top div 2 teams would have got something from the experience. Would that have been the case or do you think the standards from the top 3/4 sides would have been negatively affected from this years 16 team league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 07, 2008, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Reported to moderator

I wouldn't mind going back to my original questions about the possibility that the div2/3 leagues combining every 3/4 years if it was deemed by the majority to be beneficial to hurling development. Perhaps more of those with knowledge of this years div2/3 league can give their views?

skull i  agree from the outside looking in the division has been very competitive and this would help.

and assessor, just talk about hurling. its a hurling forum, not a bitch fest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 07, 2008, 10:17:02 PM
the only way to make the leagues competitive is this, 8 teams, two way leagues two up two down, leagues to be finished before the Championship. end off.

means that teams will be competitive right up till the first round of the championship they will be peaking for it, and crucial league points needed to stay up or for promotion will be played for on a level playing field. the problem we have now is, teams have nothing to train for, they cant get promoted or relgated turn out crap teams, some teams believe they are competitive with bigger teams are actually getting false results.

personally i've given up fight within my club over hurling, any views on it aren't really shared and points of view are lost.

as for Rossa they are a decent team but going through a lean period at the minute. but they are still producing great hurlers at juvenile level and will be a top team again, Gorts wont, trust me. they will struggle to get their best 15 players out every week and thats what they need to compete at senior. St Johns will maintain their status as long as they bring 3/4 players through each year. Naomh Gall will not compete at senior for at least 10 years i'm certain of that. nothing coming through. St Pauls and Lamhs will struggle, Sarsfields have some talent coming through not much.

North Antrim teams to win senior for a long while yet and the belfast teams to win inter and Junior

as i've said at the start, 8 teams, two up two down, only way to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 07, 2008, 10:25:50 PM


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I was hoping that the extra incentive to fight andtry and get into the top 8 places would have mean't that even the top div 2 teams would have got something from the experience. Would that have been the case or do you think the standards from the top 3/4 sides would have been negatively affected from this years 16 team league?
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no skull, i have noticed that (from my club only) that we will play at the level we are at. has always been like that. better league the better we've played. thats been the way (not me personally)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 07, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 07, 2008, 10:17:02 PM
the only way to make the leagues competitive is this, 8 teams, two way leagues two up two down, leagues to be finished before the Championship. end off.


i agree. this would be ideal and now that div2-3 will be broken down at the end of the year, this can now happen.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2008, 11:36:09 PM
fair enough....was just a thought. Looking at this year regardig fixtures....when you think about all those weeks in august this year when there were very few fixtures it does seem a bit mad that there we'ren't a few more league games in that period . Was it like that for everyone else? Would this have been the clubs fault? (i.e. nobody looking for matches whilst they were building up for the championship).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on October 08, 2008, 08:39:27 AM
Re: Division 2/3 this year.

Personally speaking I enjoyed this year.  My own club (Clooney Gaels) set a target at the start of the year to finish in the top half of it.  That looks to be more or less a certainty at this point and we've still 3 games to play (re-fixtures from different stages in the year).  I don't know if we'll end up playing them or not.

This year marked a few "firsts" for our club - we got the chance to play a few teams we've never played before which can only be a good thing as far as I'm concerned.  From the teams who were in Division 1 last year, we beat Rossa & Sarsfields and were reasonably close to St Gall's and Ballycran, and we would have beaten Lamh Dhearg only we effed it up big style!

As someone, I think it was theSkull said earlier, it would be great if there was more help available to help clubs bridge the gap, as I don't see how anybody could seriously argue that there's not a massive gap between Division 1 (certainly the upper end of it) and Division 2.  I think a starting point may be to bring the likes of Loughgiel's reserves into the leagues and/or the Intermediate Championship.  I know there are serious problems with the like of this, and I also know that some competitions exist to give us the chance to play teams like this - the Countess of Antrim and the various Feis competitions.  We were actually meant to play Loughgiel in the CoA this year, but the game was fixed for a time in May when there were a lot of football and hurling games and we ended-up conceding the game.  I know that's nobody's fault only our own but at the same time you can't please everybody - especially with the football league being a very high priority for Ahoghill this year!

I don't really go in for all this chat about certain clubs "deserving" to be in Division 1.  Ballycran knew the situation from the start of the year and set out to win all their matches.  They've done that, they'll go up - fair play to them.  In my opinion they're the only team who deserve to be in Division 1 next year. 

Regarding the leagues next year, as I understand it, the plan was always to move to a 2-way league after the first year or "playing for places".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 08, 2008, 12:02:17 PM
Good to see Clooney making such a push on the Hurling front. I like the idea of the reserve teams from Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, should be pushed into this league but the only way that it will work for the other clubs is if the big three make a serious committment to the league and not to treat it like a joke.

This way it would have benefits for all the teams concerned, competitive games for reserve players and hopefully an insight to see the top clubs at work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on October 08, 2008, 12:39:49 PM
Bringing something like this in would certainly not be without issues ...

I'm nearly sure they did something like this a few years ago where they split Division 2 into North and South Antrim and from what I could gather you ended up with the same situation as is very common in football where how you did against the bigger teams was largely dependent on whether or not they had a Senior game that day!

I'm not sure what the solution is, I'm not even sure how seriously the reserve league is taken by the teams that are in it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 08, 2008, 12:53:23 PM
Thats part of the problem the reserve leagues are treated like a joke except for championship so realistically a guy who older than 21 and not making the senior team could get one competitive game all year.

If a system was in place then the same player could be getting 5 6 7 competitive games in a season which is surely what we are looking to provide.

These games should be allocated a time slot of their own away from senior fixtures which should also have a set time slot/slots. Therefore avoiding clashes and weakened teams playing at the wrong time of the year, but the main thing is that the senior clubs put some emphasis on this and drive it forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 08, 2008, 01:59:48 PM
I dont agree with bringing reserves into championships.
This will only benefit the stronger clubs and not the development of the county as a whole. This will only produce more problems, with senior players playing on the reserve team, players not being graded etc etc.
To improve are standard of hurling we need to now work with the league tables to produce competitive games week in week out.
Clooney Gaels are a great example for other clubs to show, that if the hard work is put in teams can compete and progress up the table and up the divisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 08, 2008, 02:01:48 PM
I didnt mention championships I was talking solely about league structures, I believe championship to be a different entity completely!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2008, 02:14:23 PM
Playing reserve teams in the lower league structures can be difficult to work with NAG and has been tried before witjhout success. One team going to Belfast and the other to Cushendall can be hard to achieve as there are many occassions where overlap is needed to get both games played, but it is compounded by the fact that young players who play well in the reserves don't get to show their potential to the senior management, which can actually become a demotivating factor for the very boys you want to push on. I do agree that it would help the development of the game though if say the likes of Clooney Gaels, had the opertunity to play senior reserve teams in some other side league orginised between clubs for instance. As long as they were keenly contested meaningful matches then they would definitely help the game IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 08, 2008, 02:50:03 PM
Skull

Yeah that is my point, there has to be incentive for the play in the reserve to show his best which isnt the case at present so gettin a seperate time slot for the games is essential so that senior managers could go to watch the games.

Secondly we are only talking at present of dunloy loughgiel and cushendall being in the category so it would be a start to get these 3 going strong.

I know it has been tried before but it was a half hearted effort before as usual, if the benefits are pointed out and exactly why it is being structured in that way then most clubs would agree that it is a good enough idea. Clooney would be more than a match for any of the three's reserves but it is a better standard of hurling which will improve them and because clooney are coming with a good attitude and wanting to improve this should bring the best out of reserve hurlers who dont normally have to push themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 08, 2008, 03:22:46 PM
Who plays in the North Antrim Junior League?  Would that be Clooney IIs and Loughgeil IIIs?

http://www.northantrimgaa.com/leagues.asp?id=11 (http://www.northantrimgaa.com/leagues.asp?id=11)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 08, 2008, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 06, 2008, 01:03:28 PM
Lecale, i was playin yesterday against Gort, they were awesome but to be fair to the gort manager he came in and said it was the best they had ever played.

Just been traipsing through the last few pages of threads. Does any one know if the Sean Kelly who scored 6 points for GNM used to play in London for Robert Emmets?

Reason I ask is that the day that Clooney lost the all-ireland junior there was a Sean Kelly from Antrim playing for Robert Emmets who won the intermediate who took some serious scores from right half forward. Same guy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 06:53:19 PM
same guy clootfromthe21, ex Rossa player and county player

all good lads, good positives about restructuring leagues, time now to go back and talk to your club members put it into a motion and get the committee to bring it to the county board for discussion. otherwise nothing will be done. would be great if some topics debated/formed here actually came to light.

but we also need relegation and promotion battles. does not happen unless we have two up and two down. that will stop teams from 'doing enough to stay up lets concentrate on championship' attitude. I'd go further and the third place teams in div2 play a one off game with the third from bottom team from div 1. no complacency at all. and again the leagues to be played off before the championship.

So off to the committee lads and let them know what we want. some committees are too detached from what players feel is best for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 08, 2008, 07:41:41 PM
We got Dublin in the draw. Dublin drew out first so i'd imagine it'll be in parnell??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 07:46:16 PM
was under the impression that it was a neutral venue, i see that Kilkenny are to be put in against the winners of the Dublin antrim game >:(

so it was not surprising that Galway were called out first. or is it the other way, Christ Marty must have hit every branch when he fell out of the ugly tree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 08, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
Maybe it is a neutral venue....hopefully

Are you sure the winners of Antrim Dublin are to play Kilkenny..I thought that the draw for the semi final will be done after the quarter finals matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 08, 2008, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 07:46:16 PM
was under the impression that it was a neutral venue, i see that Kilkenny are to be put in against the winners of the Dublin antrim game >:(

so it was not surprising that Galway were called out first. or is it the other way, Christ Marty must have hit every branch when he fell out of the ugly tree

Didn't take that up Milltown - Cha seemed to suggest that Kilkenny wouldn't know who they were playing until after the first round of games. Could be wrong though.

Think Dublin isn't a bad draw - not saying we will beat them, but at least we'll not fear them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 08, 2008, 07:56:12 PM
your right just seen that, it was that i saw Kilkenny at the bottom, thinking they were to come in at our end of the draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 08, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
Maybe they thought (The GAA) that if a team had seen that if they were to win their quarter final match that the winners were to play Kilkenny....that they wouldnt be disappointed to get beat as they still get another chance in the qualifiers & have avoided Kilkenny ???

Good draw for us...we avoided Galway, Offaly & Wexford who after Kilkenny are the next best teams, although it'll still be a pretty tough match for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 09, 2008, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 08, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
Maybe it is a neutral venue....hopefully

Are you sure the winners of Antrim Dublin are to play Kilkenny..I thought that the draw for the semi final will be done after the quarter finals matches

THat'll be something for the boys to aim for hard game against and then a crack at the AI champs. I hope they be positive about it, It can be done. play like there arse is on fire!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 09, 2008, 03:31:20 PM
All this chat on the county senior team pisses me right off, suddenly the future of antrim hurling is ok, Bollocks. The minors Hammered, the U21s beaten by a third rate football team. The only way up is from the ground up IE the 5 year olds teach them properly, train proper coaches in club i mean it doesn't need massive funding when the coaches are of consistant quality then we can be assured of a proper conveyor belt of talent. The ones that don't develop early Will have all the tools when perhaps they do catch up. I heard North Antrim went to the county with a proposal for twinning with Munster Council only to be turned down, W**nkers!!, the good Doc is all talk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 09, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: JamesH on October 09, 2008, 03:31:20 PM
I heard North Antrim went to the county with a proposal for twinning with Munster Council only to be turned down, W**nkers!!, the good Doc is all talk.

Stick that on to the County Website guestbook and let's see what the response is!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 09, 2008, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on October 09, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: JamesH on October 09, 2008, 03:31:20 PM
I heard North Antrim went to the county with a proposal for twinning with Munster Council only to be turned down, W**nkers!!, the good Doc is all talk.

Stick that on to the County Website guestbook and let's see what the response is!!!!


It would appear in "county website speak" i.e. - "??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? - we have deleted most of your post, because you are quite clearly a lunatic who has disagreed with the county board, so there & by the way the CCC have an awful hard job to do. This website is maintained by a team of volunteers, who give up lots of their time. We think we are in the Leinster SHC next year, but check the fixtures nearer the time."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 10, 2008, 09:11:08 AM
does anyone actually think that getting into the leinster championship is going to help the county as a whole?

reasons please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 10, 2008, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 10, 2008, 09:11:08 AM
does anyone actually think that getting into the leinster championship is going to help the county as a whole?

reasons please

Not until our underage structures are improved to a level where Antrim have their Feile champions regularly competing in Div 1 of the Feile, the county u16s are not getting thrashed in the Nenagh All Ireland u16 tournament and then the county minors are competing and winning games in the Leinster championship will Antrim start to benefit from the Leinster championship. And that isn't going to happen in 3 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2008, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on October 10, 2008, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 10, 2008, 09:11:08 AM
does anyone actually think that getting into the leinster championship is going to help the county as a whole?

reasons please

Not until our underage structures are improved to a level where Antrim have their Feile champions regularly competing in Div 1 of the Feile, the county u16s are not getting thrashed in the Nenagh All Ireland u16 tournament and then the county minors are competing and winning games in the Leinster championship will Antrim start to benefit from the Leinster championship. And that isn't going to happen in 3 years.

That is the truth of things Fairhead. I wish more peole would come to this reality because we seem to continually setting unrealistic expectations at senior level and "failing" those expectations miserably every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2008, 02:39:50 PM
Agree Skull & Fairhead, it does not matter where we set up camp if we do not improve the quality of player representing Antrim. The only way this will happen is improved, structured coaching from primary school level. We could be in Leinster for the next 20 years and if we continue to send the same product out we will get the same beatings. Galway minors have no competitive matches in Connacht but they obviously have coaches of a high level. As for those that see entering Leinster as some sort of simple fix, Wexford and Offally minors have been poor the last few years (i think), in Munster Waterford and Clare minors have been getting excellent competition in Munster year in year out but they have a poor record.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 10, 2008, 05:27:38 PM
what was all the craic with the Loughgiel Ballycastle game at the weekend? heard there was all sorts happening. players sent off and the supporters giving the referee loads of abuse. anyone at the game? Shamrocker can ya give us an account. or maybe the Assessor was at the game Assessing  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 10, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
A wee bit of the topic of conversation here, but can anyone tell me where we got the saffron colors come from. Aye know back in the day  the team that won the County, that particular clubs strip was used to represent the County team as was custom back then. However though, where did the club that won get their colors from. The reason I ask is that a group of people from Ireland at one time fought for a Scottish army against England. They were mostly from Moyle and Dalriada area. They wore saffron armbands to distinguish themselves. I was just wondering was their a connection with this and our County colors? I'm probably way off... 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 10, 2008, 07:06:59 PM
on the question of playing in the Leinster HC, I do believe it will improve the standard of 10/12 of our best hurlers, similar to how dinny came in and herron mckeegan kettle all rose a level. The problem with that will be the long term, I think the term putting the roof on before the foundations are in.

The best get better, those coming behind aren't good enough, then collapse with nought but a few moral victories.

What I think needs done

1. Clubs need to get underage coaching as priority, my own club have for years neglected this but now seem to have the best coaches in the club with the youngest children
2. Referees need to allow games to develop intensity, similar to our semi, only when we hurling with that intensity regularly will the quality really improve - and this should be from underage,
3. Hurling must be promoted through the club leagues and championships as a priority over county team at all levels, regular structured games at all levels - the scenario where a minor team played 4 matches should never again happen.
4. Professional coaching promoted through clubs, extension of ulster council courses

So in short, administrator need to ensure proper games, coaches ensure proper coaching, referees proper rule keeping and players a proper attitude from u8 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 11, 2008, 08:10:17 PM
Saturday 11th October 2008
Antrim Hurling Div 1- 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Portaferry    2-8   2-8   Dunloy    Portaferry      
Antrim Hurling Div 2-3 - 2008
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Shane O Neills    0-16   0-10   Rasharkin    Shane ONeills      
Cloughmills    3-16   3-16   Ballycran    Cloughmills      
St. Galls    1-7   1-13   St. Pauls    St. Galls

Some result for Cloughmills.fair play to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2008, 12:43:22 AM
great result for Cloughmills, so hard for a team to go and win all season. we ballsed up today again, no footballers bothered to play bar Karl Stewart. i stared as usual :P

getting a bit sad that i still have to turn out for the team, but sure good craic

playing Cargin's thirds tomorrow, where would ya get it? hurling on a sat and football on a sunday ???

is this the Docs great plan? i wonder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2008, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 12, 2008, 12:43:22 AM
great result fro Cloughmills, so hard for a team to go and win all season. we ballsed up today again, no footballers bothered to play bar Karl Stewart. i stared as usual :P

getting a bit sad that i still have to turn out for the team, but sure good craic

playing Cargin's thrids tomorrow, where would ya get it. hurling on a sat and football on a sunday ???

is this the Docs great plan? i wonder

I feel ill when i hear the doc mentioned

(http://www.boreas-online.com/catalog/pics/Green_Apple.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2008, 05:49:17 PM
Cushendall win handy in the end, Dungiven had them for a bit mid way through second half but failed to capitalise on Cushendall's poor performance. final set for next week, same weekend we are playing in Newry, great timing ??? some counties down south haven't even finished there county finals and the ulster final is to be rushed through.

would liked to have seen it but sure

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 12, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
McNaughton double sends Ruairi Og into final

Ruairi Og 3-11 Dungiven 2-8

Antrim kingpins qualified for the final of the Ulster Club Hurling Championship when they beat Derry champions Dungiven by 3-11 to 2-8 at Casement Park.
Goals in each half from corner-forward Shane McNaughton and one from midfielder Declan McKillop were the scores which saw the Ruiri Og home.
McNaughton's first goal in first-half injury time, a superbly taken effort following a long ball out of defence by Neil McManus, was vital as it gave the 'Dall' the lead going in at the end of a closely contested thirty minutes which was high in effort, though low in quality.
A goal from a penalty from Antrim county star Ciaran Herron, after substitute Geoffrey McGonigle was adjudged to have been held in the 'square', gave the Derry champions new impetus, but Cushendall hit back almost immediately and Declan McKillop fired in the rebound after Shane McNaughton's original effort had been saved.
McNaughton sent a sideline cut beautifully over the Dungiven crossbar before capping a great individual display with his second goal after cleverly stepping inside his marker.
McNaughton could have completed his hat-trick in injury time when he was sent through one-on-one with the Dungiven goalkeeper, but his shot went inches wide.
However the miss was of no relevance as the Ruairis had already booked a final place against Down champions Ballygalget on Sunday next at the same venue.

from county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2008, 10:15:17 AM
Just spotted this from another thread. Fcuk me. That is wile. Can someone point out to me the "specific" posts on this board which warrant such an attack on all the members of it. I seriously can't think of anything which should be getting anyone too hot under the collar about.

It appears to me that this man has a personal vandetta against this board for critisims made against him and is taking his vengenence out on everybody as a result. To my mind this board is populated mainly by people who actually give a fcuk and who play a positive role both here and in their clubs in helping the game to prosper. This tar them all with the same brush shite really gets my goat up. He would be far better to concern himself with those who are apathetic to our games and think about how best encourage them to play a part in Antrim GAA rather than have a childish rant and those who are dyed in the wool GAA men.

Very similar approach taken by the latest WUM/agent provocateur  to join the Antrim Hurling thread in recent weeks and now appears to have deleted his account.

Quote from: Minder on October 12, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
Just saw this on official Antrim website guestbook......

Name : Full Of ???         11 October 2008

Just to let Doctor........

Reply :You might well get away with posting this type of crap on another webiste that allows this sort of nonsense, but it wont happen here. This sort of vile and filthy abuse is not tolerated on this site or any other forum that exerts even a modicum of control over what is posted. Contemptible, anonymous lunatics like you are the cause of serious personal abuse and unacceptable pressures on players, coaches and managers. Their family lives have been affected by some of the comments posted on "GAABoard" and the County Chairman called for this website to be shut down in his speech to convention last year. We are certain that if you were prepared to identify yourself, he would gladly let you know exactly the harm that has been done to individuals and families as result of comments posted on this wewbsite. Undoubtedly a coward like you won't do that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 13, 2008, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2008, 10:15:17 AM
Just spotted this from another thread. Fcuk me. That is wile. Can someone point out to me the "specific" posts on this board which warrant such an attack on all the members of it. I seriously can't think of anything which should be getting anyone too hot under the collar about.

It appears to me that this man has a personal vandetta against this board for critisims made against him and is taking his vengenence out on everybody as a result. To my mind this board is populated mainly by people who actually give a fcuk and who play a positive role both here and in their clubs in helping the game to prosper. This tar them all with the same brush shite really gets my goat up. He would be far better to concern himself with those who are apathetic to our games and think about how best encourage them to play a part in Antrim GAA rather than have a childish rant and those who are dyed in the wool GAA men.

Very similar approach taken by the latest WUM/agent provocateur  to join the Antrim Hurling thread in recent weeks and now appears to have deleted his account.

Quote from: Minder on October 12, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
Just saw this on official Antrim website guestbook......

Name : Full Of ???         11 October 2008

Just to let Doctor........

Reply :You might well get away with posting this type of crap on another webiste that allows this sort of nonsense, but it wont happen here. This sort of vile and filthy abuse is not tolerated on this site or any other forum that exerts even a modicum of control over what is posted. Contemptible, anonymous lunatics like you are the cause of serious personal abuse and unacceptable pressures on players, coaches and managers. Their family lives have been affected by some of the comments posted on "GAABoard" and the County Chairman called for this website to be shut down in his speech to convention last year. We are certain that if you were prepared to identify yourself, he would gladly let you know exactly the harm that has been done to individuals and families as result of comments posted on this wewbsite. Undoubtedly a coward like you won't do that!


AFAIK, there was an article in the Sunday Tribune last year. The article referred to a post on an unnamed message board which made accusations about the alleged bed hopping activities of an inter-county manager. The inference apparently was that it was this board being referred to, although few posters remember the offending post. The manager obviously wasn't named in the article and I still have no idea who the article was about. The article also quoted one Dr John McSparran who felt that the board should be closed down. Why Dr McSparran was picked at random for the Tribune's article about an unnamed manager I just can't figure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 13, 2008, 11:21:42 AM
For all Tirbune readers Our Chairmans comments have just narrowed down from a possible 64 intercounty managers to just 3.

What is the big gripe with this site, i'm assuming its this thread that is his big issue and i can't really recall anything that malicious being said on it.  really the only thread i contribute on and i think its mostly informed, well intentioned debate.

Anyhows no ones mentioned the real big news of the weekend, Dunloy Cuchullians confirmed as 2008 Antrim Senior Hurling League Champions, a title wrapped up with a draw away to Portaferry and so Dunloy finsih the Ulster league unbeaten, the Antrim League unbeaten but crucially fail to even make the big day out...

Great result for cloughmills also, spoke to friend who went to see the match and said it was a good game and cloughmills are rightfully delighted to have taken points of what is a division 1 team.  I heard good reports of two of the biddies players, Aaron Smiley and Liam Kearns, by all accounts would cut it with one of the big three, perhaps worth Sambo and Woody having a look.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2008, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 13, 2008, 11:21:42 AM
Anyhows no ones mentioned the real big news of the weekend, Dunloy Cuchullians confirmed as 2008 Antrim Senior Hurling League Champions, a title wrapped up with a draw away to Portaferry and so Dunloy finsih the Ulster league unbeaten, the Antrim League unbeaten but crucially fail to even make the big day out...

You sound like shamrock there max  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 13, 2008, 11:36:26 AM
The post from the Antrim guestbook has now been removed for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 13, 2008, 12:05:43 PM
meant very tongue in cheek, should have made better use of my  :-\ :-\ ;)

Did you go to casement skull, stayed to watches junior camogs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
Sorry to digress from the current conversation lads but can anyone recommend a reasonable coach hire co. to take a group of kids to Tipp for the weekend. Prob looking at a 53 seater.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 06:28:19 PM
Chambers seem to be the main providers for buses, though translink maybe a reasonable price. no prices but log on to their websites.

on another note Lastman, what the Fcuk was that corner back at last week at Milltown? is that the way ya coach you kids nowdays?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
he tried to cut the oldest player on the park in two.  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2008, 06:49:08 PM
Yourself?

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2008, 07:44:15 PM
Missed the game myself Milltown but heard he deserved to walk no question. He's not a bad lad, just a bit fragile mentally, wud say nerves got the better of him cos I wasn't there to tell him what to do ;).Poor coaching in his formative years might have a lot to do with it, but we're working on that. Was it yourself on the receiving end?
Cheers for the Bus info.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2008, 07:57:07 PM
Some result for the Biddies right enough, they will be well pissed off at themselves letting St.Ts chin them in the championship. Wouldn't have seen St.Ts getting close to the Crans. My first reaction was that both teams decided to half the points saving the crans a journey on saturday, sure they didn't need the points anyway. Surely not. Note to self......Must stop being so cynical.. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
got the ball (ok i was nudging him a bit) turned him and seen the hurl coming. brusing takes longer these days to heal ;)

ya's arent a bad team so was taken a back slightly. sure all good fun. ya have to take a slap  every now and again and god knows i've handed a few out :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 14, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
I think i need my toes looked at. is there an "Assessor" about ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 14, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
I think i need my toes looked at. is there an "Assessor" about ?
I think he's waitin for a new keyboard to be delivered, saw his old one on e-bay. the following keys don't work though
n;u;m;b;s;k;u;l;l;. For some reason he was hitting those keys too hard. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2008, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
I think i need my toes looked at. is there an "Assessor" about ?

Ahhh FFS  :-\ ...you're jokin ?

Quote from: Last Man on October 14, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
I think i need my toes looked at. is there an "Assessor" about ?
I think he's waitin for a new keyboard to be delivered, saw his old one on e-bay. the following keys don't work though
n;u;m;b;s;k;u;l;l;. For some reason he was hitting those keys too hard. ::)

Tis smee  Tis smee  ;D

Seriously .....I would be mindful in the next few weeks and months of new members joining up with agendas. I hope I don't have to be the only one who spots them  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 14, 2008, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 13, 2008, 08:02:07 PM
got the ball (ok i was nudging him a bit) turned him and seen the hurl coming. brusing takes longer these days to heal ;)

ya's arent a bad team so was taken a back slightly. sure all good fun. ya have to take a slap  every now and again and god knows i've handed a few out :P

I've spotted an imposter already- the real "Milltown Row" was an angelic creature, who never did anything wrong !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 14, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
i wouldn't harm a fly playwiththewind1st, and as for being an imposter, shame on ya.

so who is the Assessor, i'm being very slow on the up take here. just PM me i'll not say a word ;) my word is my bond
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 14, 2008, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on October 10, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
A wee bit of the topic of conversation here, but can anyone tell me where we got the saffron colors come from. Aye know back in the day  the team that won the County, that particular clubs strip was used to represent the County team as was custom back then. However though, where did the club that won get their colors from. The reason I ask is that a group of people from Ireland at one time fought for a Scottish army against England. They were mostly from Moyle and Dalriada area. They wore saffron armbands to distinguish themselves. I was just wondering was their a connection with this and our County colors? I'm probably way off... 

I was in a pub one night and a boy tried to tell me Antrim wore saffron because of the profileration of daisies, primroses and daffodils in the Glens. Luckily I was able to point out that the county colours do indeed come from a club strip, that club being the now defunct Seagan An Diomais (or Sean a' Diomas depending on where you hear about them). A Belfast club who represented Antrim in both the 1911 and 1912 All-Ireland football finals.

The editor of a monthly GAA magazine goes under the pen name of Sean an Diomas - Shane the Proud.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 15, 2008, 08:37:15 AM
Any word on the coaching seminar on Monday night??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 15, 2008, 08:37:15 AM
Any word on the coaching seminar on Monday night??

I haven't been chatting to anyone ...what with the dark evenings and all. Anyone hear how it went?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 15, 2008, 03:01:56 PM
Just had a wee squizz through the guestbook on the Antrim web site and I have to say I like the Admin's caustic approach to responses.

He/she doesn't mince their words in the slightest, oddly refreshing IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maddog on October 15, 2008, 03:11:20 PM
Who would be coming out of Antrim this year at junior level? The local club in Birmingham played Armoy last year just wondered who was in contention this time round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 15, 2008, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 15, 2008, 03:01:56 PM
Just had a wee squizz through the guestbook on the Antrim web site and I have to say I like the Admin's caustic approach to responses.

He/she doesn't mince their words in the slightest, oddly refreshing IMO.
I suppose it kind of works given the standard of 90% of the posts on there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
St Teresa's won the antrim junior but got knocked out of the ulster mad dog.

It looks like the Donegal champions will be the ones you'd be worrying about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 15, 2008, 04:00:29 PM
JC

The shame of it is, that it is likely one of our paid officals replying to the posts on there, hardly what you would call essential work.

(wait for the reply now  ;))
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 15, 2008, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 14, 2008, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on October 10, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
A wee bit of the topic of conversation here, but can anyone tell me where we got the saffron colors come from. Aye know back in the day  the team that won the County, that particular clubs strip was used to represent the County team as was custom back then. However though, where did the club that won get their colors from. The reason I ask is that a group of people from Ireland at one time fought for a Scottish army against England. They were mostly from Moyle and Dalriada area. They wore saffron armbands to distinguish themselves. I was just wondering was their a connection with this and our County colors? I'm probably way off... 

I was in a pub one night and a boy tried to tell me Antrim wore saffron because of the profileration of daisies, primroses and daffodils in the Glens. Luckily I was able to point out that the county colours do indeed come from a club strip, that club being the now defunct Seagan An Diomais (or Sean a' Diomas depending on where you hear about them). A Belfast club who represented Antrim in both the 1911 and 1912 All-Ireland football finals.

The editor of a monthly GAA magazine goes under the pen name of Sean an Diomas - Shane the Proud.



Ok that much i've got "saffron sam" thanks. But where did Seagan An Diomais get their colors from? No one seem's to know..The thing is the few clothes in my wardrobe are mostly saffron and I haven't a clue of the origin..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on October 15, 2008, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 14, 2008, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on October 10, 2008, 06:44:43 PM
A wee bit of the topic of conversation here, but can anyone tell me where we got the saffron colors come from. Aye know back in the day  the team that won the County, that particular clubs strip was used to represent the County team as was custom back then. However though, where did the club that won get their colors from. The reason I ask is that a group of people from Ireland at one time fought for a Scottish army against England. They were mostly from Moyle and Dalriada area. They wore saffron armbands to distinguish themselves. I was just wondering was their a connection with this and our County colors? I'm probably way off... 

I was in a pub one night and a boy tried to tell me Antrim wore saffron because of the profileration of daisies, primroses and daffodils in the Glens. Luckily I was able to point out that the county colours do indeed come from a club strip, that club being the now defunct Seagan An Diomais (or Sean a' Diomas depending on where you hear about them). A Belfast club who represented Antrim in both the 1911 and 1912 All-Ireland football finals.

The editor of a monthly GAA magazine goes under the pen name of Sean an Diomas - Shane the Proud.



Ok that much i've got "saffron sam" thanks. But where did Seagan An Diomais get their colors from? No one seem's to know..The thing is the few clothes in my wardrobe are mostly saffron and I haven't a clue of the origin..

Quote - "Men dipped their sheep in saffron"

Name the manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
theskull1, very disappointed skull that you did,nt follow through with your promises to meet the "Assessor", outside casement social at the Lynch's v Dall match. We where waiting to see if the discussion would become a bit more detailed. You come onto the site and then allegedly make promises to a poster that you would meet him to discuss the topics in more detail. The lads should be aware of this, he obviously got under your skin and subsequently he now seems to be banished from this site. Your language looking back on the postings seems a little more up tempo than his. Just to finish off by saying Skull you should practice what you preach!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 15, 2008, 07:27:41 PM
So skull didn't go to meet the 'Assessor' (and all his mates by the sounds of things).....hes obviously a coward  ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
theskull1, very disappointed skull that you did,nt follow through with your promises to meet the "Assessor", outside casement social at the Lynch's v Dall match. We where waiting to see if the discussion would become a bit more detailed. You come onto the site and then allegedly make promises to a poster that you would meet him to discuss the topics in more detail. The lads should be aware of this, he obviously got under your skin and subsequently he now seems to be banished from this site. Your language looking back on the postings seems a little more up tempo than his. Just to finish off by saying Skull you should practice what you preach!!!!!

3 posts in and your stirring ......mmmmmmmmm

Your version of the PM's sent between myself and yer man is ever so lop sided and appears to being used simply as a tactic purley to get the rise. Very similar to the other boy in fact. It was very clear to me that the Assessor wanted one of two things from our chats. Either he name called so much that he wanted any meeting between myself and himself to decend into a full scale row or name called from the safe comfort of his chair as he had no intention of ever meeting me. There is of course the third option that he too seen, that us meeting had every chance of ending acrimoniuosly as did I, and decided that it was best for him not to get back to me about making final arrangements.

You tell me if he has been banished. I have no evidence of that and nor do I care.

Just on your point regarding my language to Assessor
Assessor had every opertunity from the start to debate any issues he might have had with this board and I asked him several times to be more specific with his comments and hoped he would do so. He didn't and took instant offense to me because I was the one who wouldn't let him away with it. So maybe you might want to trawl a bit further back just to understand the chronology and tone of the conversation when I made any comments which you deem to be "more up tempo than his". Would you agree with me. If not, could you point out where I'm wrong in my assertion?

I'm just after reading your PM.... it reads "Gutless". Why not put that in the main thread. It was only one word.  Did you want to come across a bit more considered with your views to the rest of the board.

Would you mind explaining to me what you mean because you sound to me like a kid in a playground shouting "fight fight fight"?

You and the assessor appear to have alot in common.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 15, 2008, 08:25:29 PM
was he meeting you Stayousidethesquare? or was he meeting the Assessor?

coming on here and having a pop at people will not win debates nor will they win friends. since being on this site i've found it a bit of craic. yes we have heated debates but generally people are only interested in making antrim hurling better.

the Assessor in my opinion has taken it further, he could pm me with his view if he likes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 08:47:29 PM
He allegedly threatened the assessor MR, again he would,nt post his comments to the assessor on this board! So i am correct in calling him "Gutless", would,nt post for all to see. He offerred to meet the assessor at the game, outside the social. Now your comment about the board improving antrim hurling. Well i ask did skull do much for the improvement of antrim hurling by sleekedly offering the assessor a get together at casement. Subsequently the moderator was contacted by the assessor and the info forwarded to the moderator, and now the assessor cannot get back onto the board.

He speaks from years of experience, and played at the highest level for a number of years unlike most on this board, who probably have just made Senior level, and some at lower divisions i guess. Skull tends to fit that bill!! could,nt do it on the pitch, so likes to pontificate on high, like most of the county executive. Seen them all before, and antrim hurling will never improve, if left to administrators like the SKULL! Assessor is no more, and the skull seems to have contributed to his banishment.

He brought a bit of spark!! Made compelling viewing as they say, unlike most of Skulls comments. No doubt Skull, you have to a civil servant, you just fit the bill................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2008, 08:55:55 PM
Did your mother have any children that lived stayoutsidethespuare? Assessor was like yourself,full of shit. That is of course assuming they are two separate people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 09:11:39 PM
Ah Minder, behave you could find yourself being banned, or are you going to champion the Coward Skull!!!! 1 moe strike and your day job would become very boring, you would actually have to do a bit of work in the Cival Service?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
allegedly allegedly .........ffs ........OK here we go >:(

I asked him" if he would be prepared to come out from his computer and say the things he was saying to me" ( after persistent abuse in my direction continually trying to get the rise)

He then stated to everyone on the board that I was threatening him but told me he would have no problem with that, all whilst still abuseing me in his replies

I told him I was of no threat to him UNLESS he was going to talk to me like that to my face and simply wanted to see who it was that mades "his points" in the way he did and put him over his broad sided attacks on all the members of this board

He persisted in is abusing me in his posts at which point I decided to report his persistent abuse to the mods and call a halt to the whole pointless activity as did he. He never got back to me. I think we both knew it would have been a bad idea.

You call it gutless if you want, but I've got a wee thing called self respect, and am not going to get into a full scale row with an anonymous internet forum member who wants to win his arguements by shouting the loudest and abusing those he is arguing with. Is that what Assessor has benefitted from from all his years experience. Well it didn't do him much good. He came on here like you and showed no respect for any of the members of this board from day one. If the mods have acted it is because of his own actions...I know nothing about it...and again nor do I care

And just to finish .....if you or the Assessor would like to point out to me what in particular you would like to discuss with me, I'll be more than happy to meet you both for coffee. I have nothing to hide including any anonimity that this board gives me. Please get back to me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 09:37:22 PM
Skull skull skull, are you going to do the same thing again, you are a Judas! plain and simple. Respect is earned or did you not get enough experience on the pitch of that? We are all in the ether, so we cant really shout, he continually prodded at your weaknesses and you took the bate! Now your comming onto the site to try and save face with the other members, you have been exposed as a Judas, except it and apologise to the members for getting a fellow Gael, with a strong and at times constructive argument black balled. Do you not think after 35 years plus in this country we have had enough of that. Freedom of speech for all, even when the debate goes against you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the green man on October 15, 2008, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 09:37:22 PM
b] Respect is earned[/b]

Isn't it just
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
You or your mate have hardly won any debates by continual references to "numbskull" and it could hardly be described as a constructive argument - do you not think?

State your opinions clearly and make a debate out of them - what are you scared of?

No-one has really worked out from close to a dozen and a half posts what you or your mate are on about. If assessor disappeared with his behaviour then you will too unless you want to say something constructive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 15, 2008, 09:48:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
You or your mate have hardly won any debates by continual references to "numbskull" and it could hardly be described as a constructive argument - do you not think?

State your opinions clearly and make a debate out of them - what are you scared of?

No-one has really worked out from close to a dozen and a half posts what you or your mate are on about. If assessor disappeared with his behaviour then you will too unless you want to say something constructive.

Great and honest statement. Fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2008, 09:55:50 PM
What a pile of shite.....Can we just stay away from these stupid arguments & talk about what we're here to talk about....Antrim Hurling

What were skull & assessor actually debating until it started into name calling. Watching the Ireland match on RTE & listening to Dunphy reminded me of Assessor (except Dunphy is entertaining)...full of crap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 10:04:59 PM
You seem to be missing the point lads, plus i never called skull "NUMSKULL", i called him gutless and a Judas i accept that, its my opinion, as minder has said that i am full of shit. My tone has,nt changed, skull has to accept that he was responsible for the Assessors demise, because he could,nt take it, so he touts to the moderator. He must be a school teacher?

Assessor added a bit of edge to the site, thats all i am saying. Rightly or wrongly, as a lot of the opinions on the site are the same. Some right some wrong. Skull hammers people within the county at ever chance he gets, someone gives him a good run and he touts to the moderator!!! I still say that he owes people on this forum an apology for his behaviour, plain and simple. So if one of you decide to go at him, he may offer you a meeting at casement, as just this evening he has offered to meet me or assessor for a coffee. Get real Skull! You have no idea at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2008, 10:08:26 PM
Still waiting for any point your or your mate might have to make? Have you got anything rational to debate or will you just resort to insults?

Teachers and civil servants already have got the touch I see.

I would be interested to know your definition of "edge" too.

What;s your opinion on Sunday's game, the league structure or Antrim playing in Leinster - enlighten us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 15, 2008, 10:11:14 PM
this is getting more and more like hoganstand.

give over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2008, 10:14:04 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the green man on October 15, 2008, 10:16:17 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 10:04:59 PM
as a lot of the opinions on the site are the same. Some right some wrong.

For crying out loud.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 11:09:48 PM
My experience with the Assessor has taught me great lesson (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and........)

Be specific in your arguments man (as I have been doing all along) rather than responding with abuse and that derogatory tone and you just might be able to win the argument. Why not give it a try? At the minute you only come across looking like a fool. You must really like Assessor to be doing this for him

My offer still stands. I would love to meet BOTH of you some time for a chat if you think you have something constructive to say to me about any of my contributions on this board and are prepared to do it in a respectful way. What about it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2008, 11:11:15 PM
Assesor in amongst all the guff said a few interesting things about hurling, but he couldn't let a random, cyber grudge go. You appear to have jumped on the band wagon. What in your posts has referred to, as what Two Hands FFS has said, Antrim hurling.
If you have something to say that is worth listening to then say it, otherwise clear off.
If a moderator's attention is drawn to such things then I am all for that.

This is not hoganstand (which has actually improved of late!), this is not a kids playground its where as Antrim hurling people and some welcome guests discuss some important issues for them, provide reports where necessary, update on scores, injuries, rumours! and the like and try to see where they personally think there are issues with Antrim hurling...because lets face it there are a few.

If you read the posts and knew the background you would realise that the people on here are generally hurling men (whether players or supporters) and to come on here and shows a lack of respect for not just people who give and enjoy giving a bit of their time to debate all things Antrim hurling but also it shows a lack of respect for Antrim hurling itself. That might be a bit dramatic but its the way I feel.

I am not a civil servant, I am not a school teacher - its doesn't matter what I am...but on here I like to read what people have to say. It gives me a good break from the job I do and it gives me a chance to read about and sometimes comment on it.

And breathe...

1. Cushendall to win pulling up on Sunday.
2. Some result for Cloughmills but has to be put into perspective given the time of year etc but nonetheless good to see.
3. I STILL don't like the way teams field shells of teams at this time of the year.

Anyone know if there was a good turn out for the Ulster training this evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 15, 2008, 11:18:19 PM
good post Glensman

will we make an impression this year? so difficult for Ulster. it always amazes me when i watch the inter prov. matches, the size, skill and pace of the real hurling men. we are midgets compared to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2008, 11:20:11 PM
Well said Glensman.

Serious question... If a player from a club(any club) attempted to squirt water at our Co. Chairman(who I have no problem with) would we be calling for that player to be banned or would he be applauded(by minder)??

Who do Ulster play this year??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2008, 11:41:18 PM
Impression...not sure what Ulster making an impression is.

Putting it up to them can't be enough for us...100% effort, learning all the time, if that player from another province does something not letting him do it again and then trying what he did. Striving to be better.
If ever the phrase 'performance is more important than result' then this sums up Ulster in the Railway Cup. Selfishly, if the Antrim players learn anything from it I am happy.
Quite like the idea of the final being played in a European city (it would given the Ulster boys incentive!).

The sad thing is we are midgets in our complex as well.
Neilly McGarry is as big as any full forward in Ireland. McManus as strong and smart. Richmond as cute. McKeegan as good as picking up the lose ball. Brannif as good a finisher. Lets have a bit of fecking confidence and get tore into them.

Club sides from Antrim do better in the All Ireland series because those complexes seem to disappear as it is each man fighting for each other.


Two Hands - player should be punished I reckon. Nothing too severe but it is cleary pretty petty stuff.
The Doctor doesn't deserve that...on a subjective level the man is trying his best for the county and some impressive initiatives have been introduced in his tenure (and sure he's a hurling man so what does he care about the football...)...on an objective level when a county chairman is treated with such distain its pretty bad sign.
Have been in Casement when he's been chanted at/abused by club fans.
Sometimes this can be a bit of craic...sometimes it can go too far but its a fine line.
Not sure what or who you're referrring to Two Hands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 16, 2008, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2008, 11:20:11 PM
Well said Glensman.

Serious question... If a player from a club(any club) attempted to squirt water at our Co. Chairman(who I have no problem with) would we be calling for that player to be banned or would he be applauded(by minder)??
Who do Ulster play this year??

What are you talking about Two Hands?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2008, 08:40:39 AM
Did you not hear about the Derry Football final minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 16, 2008, 08:42:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 16, 2008, 08:40:39 AM
Did you not hear about the Derry Football final minder?

No i just saw a headline about the inbreds fighting,and a photo of some mentor lying on his hole. I thought it was normal practice in Derry.
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Post by: NAG on October 16, 2008, 09:15:02 AM
Oh boys you leave for a day and all hell breaks loose.

IMO this is a hurling forum first and fore most and for my part and most of the other posters they  are only here to debate the issues around antrim hurling and what holds us back and our ideas on the way forward.

Now there is always banter between the clubs in this county and we all have to take it on the chin from time to time but if you dont have an opinion or arent able to put it across then what the hell are you doing here. Rant over.

Cant see Ulster making any impression at all, IMO the railway cup has had its day and has no home in the current structure and time table of the modern game, like it or lump it thats the way it is.
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Post by: Glensman on October 16, 2008, 10:22:16 AM
Only realised after my post last night that your situation was hypothetical referring to the Derry incidents.

The Derry football final has certainly caused a few issues!
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Post by: davincicode on October 16, 2008, 05:52:55 PM
Jesus lads, what have i missed, cant take a holiday without the board going to pot. Whats the story MR/Skull/Minder you can,t look after things in my absence! Is the Assessor banned, i see the other lad outsidethesquare is on pleading the case, seems he has found someone to champion. Skull what did you say to the man? MR as the daddy of the site could you not have kept these lads in line, it seems to have taken the enjoyment of the site this last while.

Time to get back to reality, what about Sunday. My own opinion on it is whoever wins i don,t feel have the strength in depth to progress much further, see the galway lads are in for the long hall again.

MR are you really playing down your chances against the bridge? I think you lads can do it this year, hope to see you in my home town come march09!!!! The game on Sunday against the KL lads, hear Geoffry got a soft one from the Ref, who by all accounts lost the plot slightly.
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Post by: milltown row on October 16, 2008, 07:59:52 PM
davinci, no problems here, someone forgot what the site was all about Local GAA Discussion  most of the members on her are either ex players and current players, wether you played at junior level or turned out at Croke park makes not a blind bit of difference.

if you talk sense or have valid points to discuss our success/failures then grand. people may hid behind silly names but I'd say I'd know a few on here and know rightly that some know me. I'm the one usually in Casement before halftime (beat the rush, cant get the Johnnies outta there) no real malice though, Minder and his last few names have raised a few eyebrows (serious anger lad ;))  but all in all it's not a bad thing to post and read during the lunch or at home.

does anything ever change the running of the county here? NO. does anybody get hurt? if people dont like the boards then dont read them, simple. we've had people trying to close our clubs forum down, not going to happen. if monitored properly by the Mods then its fine.

i agree with ya davinci about the panels being small. cushendall need 5 good back up players same as Ballygalget. they cant afford their starting 15 to have off days after this final. pity i wont see it this sunday. for the Mitchells to win they need to by pass the half back line of the Dall, snuff out McNaughton and convert 90% of their chances. for the Dall its about getting good early cross field ball into the forwards Ad back wining breaking ball and their defence smothering the light Ballygalget forward line. seen the Magic guy hobbling outside Casement on Sunday. he'll never make it
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Post by: davincicode on October 17, 2008, 08:33:03 AM
I have a lot of time for the Dall back line, Oran scullion should have the measure of Magic, i think the dall are very light up front, unless Mc Manus changes his sweeping role and takes the freedom of the forward areas? The fire power isn,t there to progress to the final stages. I feel that they will have the measure of ballygalget, but fear that the lot, they need 6 forwards who can score and i don,t think its there! The backs are awesome, and are the real deal, i would play with 2 FForwards and pack the mid-field 3/4 line and not let anything out, close everything down after the keeper.

Well guys glad to home to put this board back on track.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 17, 2008, 12:27:23 PM
I think we are all in agreement that cushendalls back line is top quality.

I really cant see ballygalget being any good to them at all, they are a fragile outfit and when they are put to the sword they go meekly.

Question is will cushendall be able to find any fire power of the winter to mount a serious challenge on the semi final?
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2008, 01:46:16 PM
I think they are just two/three forwards too short of being a team that could challenge down south. Where is that fella brick - I thought he could maybe come good.

Their HF line isn't too bad however Shane McNaughton aside they just have nothing in the FF line. The fact Karl McKeegan ended up there the last day would indicate that.

They should be too strong for Ballygalget though. Ballygalget have a couple of scoring threats however Cushendall have the men to stop that.

When do GNM play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2008, 01:53:03 PM
apparently Brick said he was taking a year out ??? ???  did you ever

totally bizzare and has lost out. kids now, in my day you'd.............................
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Post by: Minder on October 17, 2008, 03:32:45 PM
I never really thought young Brick Mc Carthy would progress to Cushendalls senior team, he may make it yet but in my opinion he wont be the player some thought he would be. His game was always reliant heavily on hitting frees and i have heard rumours about his attitude for a year or two now. You can say a lot of young fellas attitudes arent great at that age but you never heard any nonsense like that about Graffin or Mc Manus. He may find out after a year out there is no way back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 17, 2008, 03:35:21 PM
Correct me if im wrong but the attitude of alot of cushendalls young players could leave alot to be desired (barring graffin)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 17, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
Young bricks game was more speed based, and on being given the ball, not winning it. This won't wash at senior level, something i think the young fella knew. As for not playing it could have been the dislike of the manager, or of the managers honestly in telling young players the truth something he mightn't like. the young Cushendall lads on panel Graffin , Mc Manus, Shane, burke Magill, when needed stood up to Shamrocks and Dungiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 18, 2008, 12:09:29 AM
Read today that Magic is a confirmed goner for Sunday. Galget had a slim chance with him in the mix, out of it they're at least 6 points and possibly double figures off the pace. Would be interested to know if Magic would have made it if they played the match on the original date?! It's not a question you'd be asking about the football final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 12:16:19 AM
Cushendall by 7, they have got past there tough hard hitting game. they will play a lot better than last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Ballygalget by at least 25 pts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 18, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Ballygalget by at least 25 pts

Have you been drinking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2008, 08:22:16 PM
aye 25 pints ;)

i've ma beer cooling for tomorrows game. plenty of banter for the match. loads of posters on monday complaining about the drunk chip eaters from belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 19, 2008, 02:02:21 PM
In the paper yesterday it listed all Cushendall's championbship results this year to date and they have conceded an average of less than 10 points a game. If they do that again today i cant see them losing unless Ballygalgets defence has a complete stormer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 19, 2008, 06:36:25 PM
Lads, where do i start, at the beginning say you all.

Well after paying my hard earned £12 to a grumpy UC official, 1 for me 1 for you at the turnstile, i take my seat in the stand to wait on what i expected to be a potential rip roarer of a game. Looking across casement i see no clubs flags/colours flying, no band on the field and an air of muted disappointed among the expectant spectators.

The game, promised everthing in spirits, but the referee in my opinion killed it and was very poor in his decisions. Within 5 minutes the ballygalget no4 i think, tried to decapitate the cushendal forward, i thought like most straight red! How wrong was i, and that i feel set the stall for the rest of the game.

I see some of the cushendal mentors must have been reading my posts, as MC manus played as a roaming forward and was extremely effective, can,t understand why they moved him back into the sweeping role, the forwards became ineffective after that, and made the game tighter that he really should have been. ( I wish assessor was here!) I would give the ref 5 out 10, and i am being generous when i say that, to old not up with play and decisions that beggared belief.

Shane MC Naughton needed more support, and i did,nt happen for him. Oran scullion was excellent and snuffed out Magic fairly quickly. MOTM went to Martin og Coulter, wrong N Mc Manus over the 2 games that i watched is awesome, what an all round hurler. To call this an Ulster final, ulster council should hang their heads, asking for £12 and not making a show out of the day, i tell you lads this would never happen in Dublin, no-wonder Ulster Hurling is poor, if it was football it would no doubt be a different story. Sorry lads, it was £12 that gets me. Should have gone to the marshes MR, sounds like you got the better deal.
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2008, 07:53:06 PM
That just appears to be the going rate davinci which was unfortunate.

We had a programme today which was a step up from the last day.

The standard of refereeing in ulslter hurling, based on what I have witnessed this year, is abysmal and I hate saying that given they are volunteers but it is sad but true. He was a step up from that Magee guy though.

Cushendall play a dangerous game and had they been beat they'd only have themselves to blame. To play one forward inside the 45 for almost an entire half is a bizarre ploy. I'd agree that McManus was superb in the forwards but he also was in defense. Karl, to me, has been a bit off his game this year and McManus on this form is a better influence.

Credit to Conor McCambridge - he had a stinker the last day but definitely made up for it today. Also Shane McNaughton has some pace about him. He terrifies the life out of defenders. However Cushendall just look to be short on their forwards to be challenging for honours.

Fair play to Ballygalget. Coulter hit frees from everywhere which obviously boosted them and deflated Cushendall at times. That aside I thought they were second best a lot of the game. Paddy Magill should have went for goal and killed the game. Had Ballygalget not had their goal disallowed they could have ended up winning it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 19, 2008, 09:10:15 PM
Itommygunn, i agree i think on what Ive seen this year, the best referees are in antrim, unfortunately they can,t referee their own clubs at Ulster. Duffy had a good county final, Elliott from what i hear went for broke and let them at it in the semi, and matthews although we have,nt seen much and  his semi was poor in comparison to the other 2 lads, but still these 3 lads seem to be Ulsters hopes going forward.

If leinster becomes a reality and they get games, antrim will only benefit, magee is a spent force, Devlin(Armagh) to old, who else is there. Hassen from Derry, the old guard are killing these games, time to move them on i say after today. hate to focus on ref,s but for £12 i expect and demand more value for my admission fee!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2008, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2008, 11:04:56 PM
Cushendall fans are not very nice people.

What were they at today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2008, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2008, 11:09:21 PM
Ballygalget scored a goal. Ballygalget fans cheered. The goal was disallowed. I don't know why. Cushendall fans jumped up, cheering and gave w**ker signs to the Ballygalget fans.

They had some group of wankers at the Antrim final, pissed out of their skulls shouting crap throughout the match. There werent as many last week as it wasnt a final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:03:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2008, 10:44:01 PM
Official match report

Ballygalget started shite.
Shane McNaughton had a stormer.
Martin Og Coulter should take the Og out of his name but had a good game.
Ballygalget came into it well.
Ref was a dungbag. Some baffling decisions.
Cushendall won. Fair play, Cushendall.
Loads of pints. Fair play, hardstation.

WE WUZ ROBBED   >:(

The start ultimately cost us the game this time around. IMO we started with the wrong man on Shane McNaughton as it was going to be a big ask of Chrissy Branniff to hold him as he's quite raw at this level and was caught the wrong site far too often. I'd have started wee Liam on him and Chrissy on Aidan Delary as Aidan isn't the same player he was a few years ago. This seemed to panic a few of the other defenders as big Aaron was particularly jittery, dropping balls, missing lifts etc gifted the Dall forwards a good few scores, including the goal in the opening spell. Chrissy was extremely lucky to stay on the field after his shoving the hurley into McNaughtons head. Seamy Roddy had his hands full with shane but knew how to sheperd him better into wider angles. Apart from shane McNaughton and the odd forray from McManus, Sean Delargy and McGill, the Dall forwards didn't pose that much of a threat. Our problems were getting the ball low into Dingy and stevie Clarke who looked fairly dangerous when in possession, as some of our lads were intent on trying to run the ball, Darren Flynn being the worst culprit for running down blind alleys and losing the ball rather than letting fly into the spaces.
Big Magic's arrival had only one desired effect in that it made Cushendall put another defender in front of him giving dingy more space now in the half forward line. Magic himself didn't touch leather although he may have got a touch to the goal which wasn't given for a square ball which was a harsh decision as the only man who may have possibly been in the square was Paddy rat and he was in the other corner from where the ball came in and no way near the keeper who missed it completely. The umpire and referee totally coped out on that one, home town decision or what! It's always been said that if you want to beat Antrim or an Antrim team in Casement you'll need to win it well as any close decisions will go against you and that proved the case yesterday. Even after we got the goal and with time running out one of our lads was blatantly bundled over in our own half back line, yet no free as it would have been either dropped in or within Grahams range. That aside there were some strange decisions against both teams, two hand passes which looked clean enough to me, plus one overcarrying by a Cushendall defender not that long after big Aaron had been correctly adjudged to overcarry. Even the double sending off could have been avoided as both lads were only slapping each other and apart from a bit needly was harmless enough. Poor refereeing is one thing but poor umpiring is in excusable, Yet again this Sunday we had umpires who didn't seem to know how to position themselves and scratching their heads when scores were disputed. The cushendall farwards complained about one wide which did look be over, from the sam gobshites who gave the square ball.

In all fairness Cushendall do have the better hurlers yesterday, shear heart and determination kept us in the game and we could and should have won it but for poor decisons from some of our own players as well as the referee.
I think they'll need to rethink some of their tactics as the better teams won't play aimless balls into their sweeper plus the likes of whoever comes out of Connaught (most likely Portunma) will be able to cope with Shanes pace a lot better. Fighting a rear guard action won't get you enough scores on the board in February.


Also I really do begrudge paying those f**kers on the ulster council £12 into a game when as someone rightly said, they made no effort to make the final into a spectacle, no band or f**k all. I'd also say they screw both clubs when it comes to diivving up the money by not declaring the full takings plus subtracting some petty fines for a hurley carrier being on the pitch with one sock down or the likes. Shower of useless c***ts if you ask me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
While I also didn't see a reason for your goal to be disallowed johnney the ref gave you a few dubious frees to keep you in the game first half and you had a man who should have walked after about ten minutes...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
While I also didn't see a reason for your goal to be disallowed johnney the ref gave you a few dubious frees to keep you in the game first half and you had a man who should have walked after about ten minutes...

Dubious free's at both ends of the field tommy. Agreed about our corner back though, he would have walked most other days. Maybe he was given the benefit of the fact that the game wasn't long started. It probably did look a lot worse than it actually was but a sending off nonetheless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
We've all got the super sunday brigade in fairness. How do you you discourage these dingleberry's from getting out for the day to attend big games like this? They really do drag their village/club through the gutter when you have large groups of these boys who look and feel perfectly comfortable acting like a complete tool in full view of the rest of their village. All self respect is gone. Our irish chavs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jack_Black on October 20, 2008, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
While I also didn't see a reason for your goal to be disallowed johnney the ref gave you a few dubious frees to keep you in the game first half and you had a man who should have walked after about ten minutes...

Dubious free's at both ends of the field tommy. Agreed about our corner back though, he would have walked most other days. Maybe he was given the benefit of the fact that the game wasn't long started. It probably did look a lot worse than it actually was but a sending off nonetheless

meant nothing to me who won, although would prefer the Antrim team to win

i think you must be still wearing those green tinted glasses johnny. out of interest what did each team score from play, in the first half galget got at least 4 scores from frees which IMO wrent scores. as for the square ball, it was a square ball no questions asked.

imo the better team won, the ref had a poor day but from where i was looking galget got more decisions than the Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:28:25 AM
Yeah, well like I said earlier - the standard of refereeing in that ulster hurling series has been very poor. Over the course of the game yesterday I do think think it, at least, evened itself out but that's probably slightly blinkered antrim goggles...

Could maybe have been more time though - a lot of times cushendall had a free second half the man took a drink of water.
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Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2008, 11:30:47 AM
Sorry lads....who was the ref yesterday....it wasn't Mr Devlin by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 20, 2008, 11:30:47 AM
Sorry lads....who was the ref yesterday....it wasn't Mr Devlin by any chance?
No he's demoted to the line, it was some lad from Slaughneil, martin something or other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:41:05 AM
mulholland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:50:23 AM
Quote from: Jack_Black on October 20, 2008, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 11:11:31 AM
While I also didn't see a reason for your goal to be disallowed johnney the ref gave you a few dubious frees to keep you in the game first half and you had a man who should have walked after about ten minutes...

Dubious free's at both ends of the field tommy. Agreed about our corner back though, he would have walked most other days. Maybe he was given the benefit of the fact that the game wasn't long started. It probably did look a lot worse than it actually was but a sending off nonetheless

meant nothing to me who won, although would prefer the Antrim team to win

i think you must be still wearing those green tinted glasses johnny. out of interest what did each team score from play, in the first half galget got at least 4 scores from frees which IMO wrent scores. as for the square ball, it was a square ball no questions asked.

imo the better team won, the ref had a poor day but from where i was looking galget got more decisions than the Dall.

The Ref generally had a poor day but when any crunch decisons came when the game was in the pot, he coped out of it. The square ball wasn't actually given by the ref but the umpire, so the report on the Antrim website: 'though it has to be said that referee Martin Mulholland had clearly blown before the ball entered the net.' is utter balls but that's for another day. If he'd thought it was a square ball why did he feel the need to consult with the umpire, no whistle was blown until the ball hit the net. I'll just need to swallow that pill with a nice spoonful of sugar

just because we scored from free's doesn't necessarily mean they weren't free's and I've already stated that two obvious frees were given against Dall defenders one for a handpass and another for over carrying were incorrect but we were on the receiving end of similar decisons which resulted in scores for the Dall.  The Dall missed more frees than us so that'll not show up on your stats. The dall however did muster more from play and that's not in dispute and although I'm dissappointed in the referee I've already stated that the Dall had the better hurlers and that we by poor decison making on the field contributed to our own defeat as much as the referee, its just easier to blame the outsider  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2008, 12:00:51 PM
I actually was pretty sure I heard him blow prior to the goal too...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 20, 2008, 12:12:55 PM
An umpire cant actually give a square ball decision while the ball is in open play. He can however be consulted after the ball has gone out of play be it a goal or wide or whatever and then can tell the ref that it was a square ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 20, 2008, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 20, 2008, 12:12:55 PM
An umpire cant actually give a square ball decision while the ball is in open play. He can however be consulted after the ball has gone out of play be it a goal or wide or whatever and then can tell the ref that it was a square ball.

I know that, he was within his powers to do what he did, I just think he was wrong, but that's my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 20, 2008, 12:43:05 PM
Have to say if Ballygalget were going to win yesterday was as good a chance as any, very low scoring which is going to be cushendalls achilles heel in febuary. If you look at the semi's in recent years they have nearly always been high scoring affairs and that would def not suit cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 20, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
cushendall game on tg4 now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 20, 2008, 08:16:35 PM
Monty took 7 steps with ball in hand before striking for his goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 20, 2008, 08:24:32 PM
was thinking that minder, also i dont think it was a square ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2008, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2008, 08:24:32 PM
was thinking that minder, also i dont think it was a square ball
How many times have you seen a ref blow for over-carrying when a goal is scored! Never is the answer as they are too busy watching to see if the player is gonna score or not. Watched that on tg4 there - hard to make out who got the final touch. Was it the fella doubling on it just inside the small square or the forward in the middle of the square?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jack_Black on October 20, 2008, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2008, 08:24:32 PM
was thinking that minder, also i dont think it was a square ball

you dont think it was a square ball - and you a referee  ???

thought it was a square ball at the time even from where i was sitting, just after watching it on TG4 and it was conclusive it was a square ball

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on October 20, 2008, 09:00:19 PM
Square ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 20, 2008, 09:16:28 PM
In view of the video evidence,Monty over carrying for his goal and the square ball that wasnt a square ball Cushendall should do the decent thing and offer Ballygalget a replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sameoldstorey on October 20, 2008, 10:32:20 PM
did u guys also take note of the tipp and limerick  hurling finals.think that is why our hurling fails so miserably when we advance in the competition.
our referees destroy the games with ridiculous decisions. they be much more suited to a hockey match. credit to both teams yesterday, they played some good tough hurling and fair play to the referee for allowing them to do so.
think some of u pussy foot hurlers owe the ref an apology.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 20, 2008, 11:40:20 PM
It was a square ball, plain and simple following the rules (as far as I am aware). Doesn't matter whether the player is interfering wiht play (ala the offisde rule) or whether he got a touch...its if he is in the square. If I'm wrong I am happy to be corrected.
Very foolish positioning by the forward.

Cushendall will need to up it considerably.

Why no coverage of the St Galls Mayobridge match?

What's the usual in Newry MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 21, 2008, 12:02:12 AM
When is the Gorts intermediate final?

They will have a busy schedule ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2008, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: sameoldstorey on October 20, 2008, 10:32:20 PM
did u guys also take note of the tipp and limerick  hurling finals.think that is why our hurling fails so miserably when we advance in the competition.
our referees destroy the games with ridiculous decisions. they be much more suited to a hockey match. credit to both teams yesterday, they played some good tough hurling and fair play to the referee for allowing them to do so.
think some of u pussy foot hurlers owe the ref an apology.

Can any one decipher this one? I'm struggling to understand if he's having a go at the referee or some of us who've critised the ref on sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 21, 2008, 10:38:27 AM
Im not sure even he knows what he was trying to say there.

I dont think that we have struggled on the club scene going over the border because the teams seem to be able to say right this is the level of hurling we want to be at and we are prepared to get on with the game and hurl and not bitch at the ref for simple fouls.

Also there is none of the pettyness which haunts our games up here, trying to even the score because he hit you the last time or a couple of matches ago. I think we need to have ten strong teams to start to push the game forward here and until we have that across the board then we are going to be stuck in our ways.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2008, 12:34:34 PM
Anybody who watched the Tipp final would have seen some very average hurling in alot of that game. Granted the pitch/conditions were not ideal but there was some very poor technique in that game considering them. I would agree that they hurl with more aggression in the tackle but technicallly our best hurlers are as good IMO. Preparing teams to get ready for a tougher brand of hurling requires planning before it is implemented to ensure all hell doesn't break loose. NAG has of course hit the nail on the head. We need more club teams improving the standards in their hurling. Every county appears to have 3 (in some cases only 2) sides which stand out but they must have that strength in depth which we are lacking at the minute. Up to every club to focus on coaching standards for the next 10-15 years before improvements will come about in County hurling fortunes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 21, 2008, 03:06:08 PM
Agreed Skull, we will be feic'd in 10 years time if there isn't more work done on proper coaching and hurling development. There is a lot of work being done surely at the minute but too many clubs are lagging and with the Munster initiative getting pulled I honestly think it's worrying times for Antrim hurling. Strong clubs will no doubt use the St.Johns model but I don't think that's sustainable.
One of the key things we should be instilling in kids IMO is ball focus. If the ball is your main focus then your not worried about taking a slap and importantly not worried about settling old scores to the detriment of your game, the best hurler in Donegal Celtic is perfect example of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 21, 2008, 03:23:12 PM
Right,

The season is over, I want 3 things and I mean only 3 that you would change in Antrim hurling to make an improvement, can be for next season or can be for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2008, 03:39:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 21, 2008, 03:06:08 PM
Agreed Skull, we will be feic'd in 10 years time if there isn't more work done on proper coaching and hurling development. There is a lot of work being done surely at the minute but too many clubs are lagging and with the Munster initiative getting pulled I honestly think it's worrying times for Antrim hurling. Strong clubs will no doubt use the St.Johns model but I don't think that's sustainable.
One of the key things we should be instilling in kids IMO is ball focus. If the ball is your main focus then your not worried about taking a slap and importantly not worried about settling old scores to the detriment of your game, the best hurler in Donegal Celtic is perfect example of this.

probalby the lack of clubs means that we're playing each other fairly often in a given year meaning the petty squabbles just fester all the while.

With the antrim leagues (home and away), ulster league, north antrim feis, championship and god know what other tournaments, pitch openings in a given year some clubs may have played each other up to 5 or 6 times which isn't good but there is no other options available if we want regular fixtures.

Obviously a change of player mindset is also required and it'll probably be the biggest issue to address as I believe the biggest problem facing referee's is that if they do let a bit of physicality go that it'll quickly get out of control and end up in mass handbagging which does no one any good. Chicken and egg scenario.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 21, 2008, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 21, 2008, 03:23:12 PM
Right,

The season is over, I want 3 things and I mean only 3 that you would change in Antrim hurling to make an improvement, can be for next season or can be for the future.

Over this winter and every winter a few things that might help

1. Schools coaching, proper, regular coaching within our primary and secondary schools, everytime you watch Laochra Gael you see some legend harping back about the great coaching he got from Brother hurling in the head before he went onto a hurling acadamy like St kierans or St flannans.  With cross & passion arguably the exception hurling is neglected in many schools in North Antrim.  you could go into a essay on things that would improve schools

2. Referee retraining, get referees together and explain to them the need to increase the intensity of our game, ask for a common sense approach where the game can flow so long as all dangerous strokes are blown for.  And communicate this with the players and clubs.

3. Continued club activity - facilities at present do allow for much in these winter months but you can be sure in Cork, Kilkenny Tipp etc hurling alleys are full each night of the week, gyms are full, kids are participating in indoor blitzes training etc

could go on, there could be a localised economic boom in the glens and top hurlers like shefflin, canning, the o'connors and mcgraths could move up and participate in the club leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 21, 2008, 08:52:27 PM
3 things? 

Well there's no immediate fix, obviously the main thing is for clubs to be coaching kids better and with passion, the soft approach doesn't work. One coach for every 6 lads rotating the drills followed by condition games i.e. one touch hurling, a stat came out years ago that the weaker counties held on to the ball for more seconds than the likes of Kilkenny Cork and Tipps of this world. Encourage at training the finer arts of the game, one handed dipping and striking of the stick while moving. Those are the things that get good players space and time to either pick out passes or simple tap over's.

Competitive leagues, that what we will have this year with 8 team leagues and home and way fixtures. My problem with the leagues is that there has never been any emphasis on wining the div one league. Sole purpose has always been to avoid relegation. Leagues have to be two up two down. This year Ballycastle knew all they had to do was beat Glenariffe twice job done. Had the threat of two going down themselves and Cushendall would have tried harder. For the winners of the leagues some incentive by the county or sponsors like, tickets for the all Ireland, over night accommodation in Dublin. Also leagues to be finished before Championship as no effort is put into training or games after teams are out of the championship. Playing hurling this time of year is daft. Leagues can be started earlier to help this.

Last point, a lot of posters on the site seem to be at the referees, feelings of they don't know anything and calling for silly fouls and wont let the rough stuff go and blah blah blah blah. Some solutions, why don't some of us experts try the refereeing? Give it lash for two years work it from within. The games I did this year were enjoyable but the whining from the line and the players is unreal. Teams and mentors and fans are only after their own interests. If I'd a pound for every call or gurn about this is a free and that's not a free I'd be doing alright. If the referee only had to deal with the technical fouls and the dangerous play the game would flow easier. Instead he's got to stop lads slabbering and the mentors giving off. Referees will get better if the ex players take up the reigns. Also clubs have referees, hold annual meetings with them and communicate your views. Would not be a bad thing if clubs held Q&A's with referees from other clubs.

now back to the united match and this Corona
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 22, 2008, 10:51:17 AM
Last man: as far as i am aware the North Antrim board are to carry on with the Munster plan regardless of what the County says, as it is the plan which is tailored to suit their need. Why wouldn't they continue? My sources say it will commence in November.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 22, 2008, 10:56:39 AM
Sorry last don't know what happened with the colour

Last man: as far as i am aware the North Antrim board are to carry on with the Munster plan regardless of what the County says, as it is the plan which is tailored to suit their need. Why wouldn't they continue? My sources say it will commence in November
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2008, 11:04:32 AM
Oh yeah almost forgot.....does anyone know what type of discussions were had at that meeting last week up in St Endas?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on October 22, 2008, 11:26:02 AM
The only point i would question MR is the one handed picking.  IMO when it comes off it looks good and granted quickens the pace up.  However, when it goes wrong it is horrible and results in a fella poking and proding at the ball looking like a drunk zorro.  Much better to get the kids to get both hands on the stick, get low and run through the ball.
Out of interest, how many referees would each club have on average?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 22, 2008, 02:55:14 PM
heard a rumour than cathal 'doug' mc auley has threw the toys out of the pram at carey and told the players after the last league game he is gonna get a transfer to loughgiel.

anyone else heard this or shamrock what do you think? would he even make their team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 22, 2008, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on October 22, 2008, 11:26:02 AM
The only point i would question MR is the one handed picking.  IMO when it comes off it looks good and granted quickens the pace up.  However, when it goes wrong it is horrible and results in a fella poking and proding at the ball looking like a drunk zorro.  Much better to get the kids to get both hands on the stick, get low and run through the ball.
Out of interest, how many referees would each club have on average?

if you want to play the game at pace then the one handed pick up needs to be practised like every other skill in the game. Also like every other skill the individual needs to know when and where to use it. Just because it may be a bit difficult and high risk doesn't mean it shouldn't be coached, in fact it should be coached more IMO.
That's one thing that bugs me, coaches who churn out the same lines, 'out in front', 'two hands on the hurley' etc, etc without understanding that if you're in cetain situations 'out in front ' or 'two hands on the hurley' aren't necessarily suitable.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 22, 2008, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 22, 2008, 02:55:14 PM
heard a rumour than cathal 'doug' mc auley has threw the toys out of the pram at carey and told the players after the last league game he is gonna get a transfer to loughgiel.

anyone else heard this or shamrock what do you think? would he even make their team?

I cant see him making the Loughguile team, he is average at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2008, 03:45:02 PM
Sure alot of people consider the loughgiel team to be made up of alot of average hurlers, so with that in mind he might have a chance  :P

Never seen the boy play, but he should go speak to cloot before making any decisions.

This story might just smoke Shamrocker out . He has been very quiet for the past few weeks :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 22, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on October 22, 2008, 11:26:02 AM
Out of interest, how many referees would each club have on average?

According to those in the know, the clubs have plenty, but there are no good 'uns (although MR has a great career in front of him, whistle in 1 hand & Corona in the other!!!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 22, 2008, 04:13:51 PM
Yes he has been quiet this past few weeks!  :o

3 things I would do to change antrim hurling:

Get good coaching ( & referee education) structures in place in each club within the county

Get a working strategy in all the schools in the county

Get some funding specifically for belfast and promote the game properly in the city and breathe life into it.

Skull sure what you talking about cloot has 15 championship medals!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2008, 04:30:20 PM
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself."

Don't think cloot was the first to say it, but I'm sure he'd offer it to anyone who asked for advice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on October 22, 2008, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on October 22, 2008, 11:26:02 AM
The only point i would question MR is the one handed picking.  IMO when it comes off it looks good and granted quickens the pace up.  However, when it goes wrong it is horrible and results in a fella poking and proding at the ball looking like a drunk zorro.  Much better to get the kids to get both hands on the stick, get low and run through the ball.
Out of interest, how many referees would each club have on average?

F**king class  :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 22, 2008, 08:42:55 PM
just read the Antrim guestbook....

Name : gort man                                                                                                     22 October 2008

Gort Ulster final this Sunday has been Postponed. Carrickmore are taking their Appeal to CHC Dublin


any truth in this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 23, 2008, 06:07:07 AM
Quote from: JamesH on October 22, 2008, 10:51:17 AM
Last man: as far as i am aware the North Antrim board are to carry on with the Munster plan regardless of what the County says, as it is the plan which is tailored to suit their need. Why wouldn't they continue? My sources say it will commence in November.
The county were suppose to fund it but now i suppose money is tight and they apparently cant commit this sort of dough to one divisional board initiative and are now looking at an all county coaching strategy, which on the face of it is fair enough but crucial momentum will be lost in the progress NA are making if they have to wait for everyone else to catch up. You are not talking a couple of grand, so not easy to russle up these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 23, 2008, 09:21:45 AM

In think that North Antrim Board have quite a few dollars behind them now as they have about a dozen sponsors , so i think they will go ahead in the Munster project. The thing we must remember is that it is not about excluding any one division it is just somthing the clubs have been working on to improve the club coaching. SA could have started their own initative to help their division, perhaps what NA are planning wouldn't have suited SA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 23, 2008, 10:16:19 AM
I get what you are saying James but I would say we are talking 20-30k at least to see this through properly and given the way business is at the minute not many firms will be throwing sponsorship money about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 23, 2008, 12:28:46 PM
I think it was more like e50k, and the funding was to come from the Hdc in Croke park according to the explanation given at the last NA committee meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 23, 2008, 03:07:26 PM
I hope you are right. Could be the best thing to happen for Antrim Hurling in a generation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 27, 2008, 03:38:31 PM
i see the county is having a trial for any intermediate/ junior players to join next yrs panel. i know there has been a few people recommended over the last while but who realistically is good enough for the panel?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 27, 2008, 03:56:36 PM
Realistically there are too many players as is that wouldnt get other either the cushendall or dunloy sides which should nearly be a prerequsite to be part of the panel. This is just another smoke screen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2008, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 27, 2008, 03:38:31 PM
i see the county is having a trial for any intermediate/ junior players to join next yrs panel. i know there has been a few people recommended over the last while but who realistically is good enough for the panel?


Very few in Junior would cut it in my opinion, they might look good at their own level but they are a cut below the Senior lads who get regular hurling at the higher level. What compounds the problem is that as well as ending up with splinters in their arse from the county, their club hurling can suffer to. Only going on the experience of one of our lads who was on the fringes in Dinny's reign, our best player by a mile but don't think he fielded at all for the county and when he was available to the club he was nowhere near his best. We got relegated that year and have never recovered since.
Definitely some good inter players are worth run, from St.Pauls,Tir na Nog, Clooney's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 27, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 27, 2008, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 27, 2008, 03:38:31 PM
i see the county is having a trial for any intermediate/ junior players to join next yrs panel. i know there has been a few people recommended over the last while but who realistically is good enough for the panel?


Very few in Junior would cut it in my opinion, they might look good at their own level but they are a cut below the Senior lads who get regular hurling at the higher level. What compounds the problem is that as well as ending up with splinters in their arse from the county, their club hurling can suffer to. Only going on the experience of one of our lads who was on the fringes in Dinny's reign, our best player by a mile but don't think he fielded at all for the county and when he was available to the club he was nowhere near his best. We got relegated that year and have never recovered since.
Definitely some good inter players are worth run, from St.Pauls,Tir na Nog, Clooney's.

who you talkin about here last man? any player already on the panel from these clubs don't have to attend the trial so its additional players they are looking for. maybe the likes of smiley and kearns who have been touted on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2008, 04:59:16 PM
Kearns and Smiley would be nowhere near IMO, Fiontain Gamble St.Pauls and is it Gormley(not sure) from Randalstown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 05:15:21 PM
Hi there folks.

I understand this si the site where it all happens, pertaining to lambasting referees, county officials, ridiculing individual players and clubs.

Makes you wonder, where we all go from here regarding hurling in Aontroim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2008, 05:22:19 PM
Another one...

There's a few intermediate players about:
Gort: Quinn
Randalstown: Magill / Duffin

Who is Gormley from Randalstown?

What about that Maguire fella from St Teresas - is he much good?

The trials is a good idea anyway - would be worth it if for one or two players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 27, 2008, 05:40:46 PM
Looks more like the same one.

Quote from a few pages back:

Numskull

Ye are a real Charlatan!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
hI gUYS

I TRIED EDITING MY PROFILE AND ATTEMPTED TO INSERT MY PIC, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO SHOW?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 05:48:54 PM
I tink I has it sussed now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
My image still not coming through.  Thanks for all your help guys!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 06:05:05 PM
Can I help?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 06:10:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 06:05:05 PM
Can I help?  :)

Oh thank you friend, thats very good of you?  I am nopt able to show my image icon below my name.  In my profile, I have typed in http://www.kennygallery.ie. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 27, 2008, 06:14:35 PM
You need to put in the full path of the image:
e.g. http://www.kennygallery.ie/images/imagename.jpg

Right click on the image and select properties and it will give you the Full Address of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 06:16:15 PM
You need to put in the full URL of the image/avatar that you want displayed

so for example

http://images.cafepress.com/product/95043601v1_350x350_Front.jpg (http://images.cafepress.com/product/95043601v1_350x350_Front.jpg)

Hope this helps





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 06:22:30 PM
Go raibh maith agaibh uilig, a chairde!

Slan anois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 06:24:46 PM
Posters are very nice in this forum, very helpful indeed!  A really strange characteristic, I must say!  Am I really in the wrong place?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 06:31:36 PM
Only you can answer that NC

There are 306 pages of posts. Sure have a wee look at what is discussed here and it should go a long way to answering your question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 06:32:30 PM
not that many players in the lower leagues that would make a dramatic impact on the senior team, for what it's worth young Shannon from Rossa would certainly make the grade, due to his skill and size.

we need big skillful players. we are too easy brushed aside by our southern counterparts. a team containing players that are in the 6 foot and bigger bracket is whats needed. obviously they need to be quality players but size matters. i think the county should put a bit off effort into developing an intermedate team that trains along side the seniors, using the same strength and conditioning programmes and training drills. would do no harm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 07:43:48 PM
Watched the Ballyhale Sharocks game yesterday against Seamus Stoifan, not too many 6' + players.  Sure MR, is it not the case that fellas the size of Eoin Larkin, Tommy Walsh, Joe Dean, Aaron Graffin, Karl Mckeegan and the like of your goodself do not break the 6' barrier.  I rest my case!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
granted Charlatan but they are the exception rather than the rule. and ya can add hickey in there also. but having watched years of county hurling when our lads are up against the southern teams  we lack strength.

I'll take that as a complement NonCharlatan 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
granted Charlatan but they are the exception rather than the rule. and ya can add hickey in there also. but having watched years of county hurling when our lads are up against the southern teams  we lack strength.

I'll take that as a complement NonCharlatan 8)

MR, I was responding to what you alluded to at first which was 'Height'  not strenght.  You can have Height but strenght and vise versa.  Look at the mighty Seán Shannon, Jim Sheridan,  Pickering ('fatto') your own colleague CJ, Clute McFettridge, Liam O'Donaghue, Silvy Linnane, Johnny Flaherty.  How far do you wish me to go back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
my point is simple, i'd prefer to have 15 odd players in the Neill McManus stength and size, Larkin is 6' by the way. all the kilkenny forwards are over 6' bar fast eddie. all their subs bar 2 and the panel was 30!!!

again we could quote all day about small talented hurlers, this is just my preference. oh and looking at the pen portraits of Waterford they have all but three over 6'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 08:52:14 PM
Agree milltown. It may be down to more quantity of players who possess the prerequisite skills, that then allows county managers to select players who fit a certain profile to suit the way they want to play the game. If you have players who possess height strength speed and skill then you are killkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
Hi MR.

I am also very curious.  I see you have assumed the role of 'Assessor' in your Avitar.  As I am reliably informed, the real 'Assessor' was banished from this forum by some self assigned and self opinionated armchair Gael with an nortorious agressive and foul manner.

Having scanned back through the previous pages of this forum.  I for one would like to see the real 'Asessor' back.  I might in fact start a little crusade to have him re-instated.  What do you say to that.  I woulld be really interested in your opinion?  - "BRING BACK THE ASSESSOR".  Is there no voting/polling facility on this forum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 08:59:45 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 27, 2008, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 06:32:30 PM
not that many players in the lower leagues that would make a dramatic impact on the senior team, for what it's worth young Shannon from Rossa would certainly make the grade, due to his skill and size.




dunno about young shannon right now, heard he didn't have too great of an impact in the mageean final on sat. players need to be dominating in their own age group before we can get them but def in 2 or 3 yrs time. let him play senior for a while longer before calling him up. county hurling can pollute young fella's if their not ready.

again those players like quinn, duffin and magill dont have to attend the trial as they were in the panel last year. and i heard from a player that philly maguire who was on the u21 panel just randomly kept turning up to senior training without actually been asked to join the panel.



i've been trying to do that for years ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 27, 2008, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
Hi MR.

I am also very curious.  I see you have assumed the role of 'Assessor' in your Avitar.  As I am reliably informed, the real 'Assessor' was banished from this forum by some self assigned and self opinionated armchair Gael with an nortorious agressive and foul manner.

Having scanned back through the previous pages of this forum.  I for one would like to see the real 'Asessor' back.  I might in fact start a little crusade to have him re-instated.  What do you say to that.  I woulld be really interested in your opinion?  - "BRING BACK THE ASSESSOR".  Is there no voting/polling facility on this forum?

I hope he comes back too, he/she is sorely missed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 27, 2008, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
Hi MR.

I am also very curious.  I see you have assumed the role of 'Assessor' in your Avitar.  As I am reliably informed, the real 'Assessor' was banished from this forum by some self assigned and self opinionated armchair Gael with an nortorious agressive and foul manner.

Having scanned back through the previous pages of this forum.  I for one would like to see the real 'Asessor' back.  I might in fact start a little crusade to have him re-instated.  What do you say to that.  I woulld be really interested in your opinion?  - "BRING BACK THE ASSESSOR".  Is there no voting/polling facility on this forum?

Speak to the site Moderators then,. As I hear it, they blocked his IP address.  I am also informed it was the SKULLs fault for offering him a dig outside Casement.  However, Skull did not show up!

I hope he comes back too, he/she is sorely missed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 09:11:31 PM
Oh ...it does indeed have a voting facility

Go to the Local GAA Discussion page and on the right hand side you should see "New Poll". Click that and it should fairly intuative to set up the poll you want to set up. If you need any help give me a shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 09:16:04 PM
Thanks Skull.  Hey you seem like a good guy! I cant believe that Assessor prat, kept picking on you.  The F****** maybe deserved to go.  What do you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 27, 2008, 09:19:52 PM
I think all refs in Antrim are shit, we need a new county chairman and the Antrim management should be changed immediately............I dont believe i have had my full allocation of fruit today -

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 27, 2008, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 27, 2008, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
Hi MR.

I am also very curious.  I see you have assumed the role of 'Assessor' in your Avitar.  As I am reliably informed, the real 'Assessor' was banished from this forum by some self assigned and self opinionated armchair Gael with an nortorious agressive and foul manner.

Having scanned back through the previous pages of this forum.  I for one would like to see the real 'Asessor' back.  I might in fact start a little crusade to have him re-instated.  What do you say to that.  I woulld be really interested in your opinion?  - "BRING BACK THE ASSESSOR".  Is there no voting/polling facility on this forum?


Speak to the site Moderators then,. As I hear it, they blocked his IP address.  I am also informed it was the SKULLs fault for offering him a dig outside Casement.  However, Skull did not show up!

I hope he comes back too, he/she is sorely missed.

did i miss something?  reel them in minder ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 27, 2008, 09:19:52 PM
I think all refs in Antrim are shit, we need a new county chairman and the Antrim management should be changed immediately............I dont believe i have had my full allocation of fruit today -

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Hi Minder.

Wheres this crap all coming from.  Sure if we did not have Referees, where would we all be?  HI MR, I think this boy has a gaff with you, sure are you not a novice referee?

Come on Minder, not all Referees are bad! A bit OTT if you ask me.  catch a grip.  Instraed of not have your apple today, I think you did not have your tablets, PROZAC maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 09:26:03 PM
Well the pretenders once said "It's a thin line between love and hate". We just didn't kick it off right. If we'd have just got off to a better start I think we may have really gelled. Agh bygones
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 27, 2008, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 09:26:03 PM
Well the pretenders once said "It's a thin line between love and hate". We just didn't kick it off right. If we'd have just got off to a better start I think we may have really gelled. Agh bygones

Ah Skull

I knew u were a really nice guy.  So you actually have a heart despite you reporting the Assessor to the moderator, good on ya!

Have you voted on the Poll yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2008, 09:36:05 PM
I do indeed
Make sure and give the "big man" my regards. Cheers.

I have voted yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:24:37 AM
Hi Skull, now you are being very magnanimous in defeat, fair play to you!

I notice on the poll for bringing the real 'Assessor' back (do you get that Miltown) that there is references to the 'long serving board members' what is all this crap?  None of you own the board and the opinions of relatively new members should also be valued.  I see some idiot was make reference to the possibility that the 'Assessor' was in fact the County Chairman, John McSparran.  You are so way off the mark friend!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 28, 2008, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:24:37 AM
Hi Skull, now you are being very magnanimous in defeat, fair play to you!
???
You need to help me. Was there something to be won?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 28, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
Who are you then...sorry, I mean who is the Assessor?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 28, 2008, 09:37:11 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:24:37 AM
Hi Skull, now you are being very magnanimous in defeat, fair play to you!
???
You need to help me. Was there something to be won?



Hi Skull

I heard that you threatened to knock the block of the 'Assessor' outside Casement Social Club a few weeks back but you did not show up.  As I understand the 'Assessor' was there waiting for you.  I heard this from a third party of course, but it may not bear any truth at all.

But despite all that, fair play to you.  Maybe you did not show because Dunloy were not in the final.  I understand your plight a chara!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
Skull I think you have a stalker...

Can you get restraining orders on the internet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 10:07:41 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on October 28, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
Who are you then...sorry, I mean who is the Assessor?  ::)

Hi there friend.

You mean you don't know who the 'Assessor' was, shame on you!  He was a new poster to the site who was verbally abused, threatened, and ostracized because some trumpet blower reported him to the moderator for some unknown reason.  As I am reliably informed, they thought he was the County Chairman, John McSparran and felt he was encroaching into their little cocoon.

By the look of things, he was well informed, if sometimes controversial, but knew his stuff when it came down to the nitty gritty of hurling.

Well, I suppose if someone poses a threat to some insecure individuals, they will maybe stoop to drastic means.  Self preservation and all that.

A real pity though if you ask me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2008, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 10:07:41 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on October 28, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
Who are you then...sorry, I mean who is the Assessor?  ::)

Hi there friend.

You mean you don't know who the 'Assessor' was, shame on you!  He was a new poster to the site who was verbally abused, threatened, and ostracized because some trumpet blower reported him to the moderator for some unknown reason.  As I am reliably informed, they thought he was the County Chairman, John McSparran and felt he was encroaching into their little cocoon.

By the look of things, he was well informed, if sometimes controversial, but knew his stuff when it came down to the nitty gritty of hurling.

Well, I suppose if someone poses a threat to some insecure individuals, they will maybe stoop to drastic means.  Self preservation and all that.

A real pity though if you ask me!

What does that mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 10:12:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
Skull I think you have a stalker...

Can you get restraining orders on the internet?

No 'Stalker' at all friend.  Just relating to the facts.  The Skull has nothing to fear from me at all, I am just telling it as I have been told apparently from reliable sources in the know.  I am really not into this stalking thing at all.  However, if individuals don't like the truth, thats not my problem.

Must go and do some work know, my principal will be giving off!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Hi guys

Any truth in the rumour that a certain Mickey Johnston (Naomh Eoin) is goin to their arch city rivals (Uí Donnabhain Rossa) as manager?

What a F****** diabolical liberty!,  I ask ya, now thats loyalty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 28, 2008, 11:41:31 AM
I would say you would have to check your facts on that one.

Seriously would doubt that, doubtful if he would leave in the first place and even more doubtful if Rossa would take him on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 28, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 10:12:13 AM
No 'Stalker' at all friend.  Just relating to the facts.  The Skull has nothing to fear from me at all, I am just telling it as I have been told apparently from reliable sources in the know.  I am really not into this stalking thing at all.  However, if individuals don't like the truth, thats not my problem.

I agree :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 28, 2008, 12:34:49 PM
He would be more inclined to move the whole plant up to gort na mona if he doesnt get his way!
Or was that just an idle threat  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 28, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
I agree about McCrory he is a super athlete.

But where is the coaching that has been going into him over the past 4-5 years, he still runs with the ball too much doesnt get his head. This with proper coaching should have been eliminated and he should be twice the player he is now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:01:48 PM
Come on guys, we need your votes to get the real ;Assessor' back.  MR is only a real CHARLATAN.   Get voting now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:08:52 PM
Does anybody know where that B****cks 'Outside the square is from?  He always seems to have a lot to say.  Why is he not voting to get the 'Assessor' back?  I have have my suspicions about this guy outsidethesquare.  I actually think he is from outside the county.  He she be booted out I think.  Does anybody agree?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:23:54 PM
I see that boyo who refereed the County Senior Hurling Final is down to do the Ulster Junior Final in Ballyshannon on Sunday.  He seems to get around a bit and doing some very high profile games.  Not a bad referee at that.  Fair play to him!  What club is he with, O'Donnells, Sarsfiels, St. Brigids?  Maybe you would know Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 28, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:30:13 PM
Steady on NC, there is only one poster on this forum not from antrim and that is davincicode, hes a dirty dub, oh yes was,nt there a referee called Dirty Dub? I wonder???????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: PlayWithTheWind on October 28, 2008, 05:27:48 PM
St Galls.

It seems F****** Naomh Gall have all the good things lately.  Maybe Janty should move to Naomh Gall should go there instead of Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:35:20 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:30:13 PM
Steady on NC, there is only one poster on this forum not from antrim and that is davincicode, hes a dirty dub, oh yes was,nt there a referee called Dirty Dub? I wonder???????????

Steady on what!  Who asked you anyway, I was talking to the Skull FFS.  I think you need to stay outside the square pal.  U have loads of opinions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:40:34 PM
Hey NC hes a good guy, getting what he deserves, he has also done the NHL final this year, and i seen him at croke in all ireland semi-final minor game, nothing wrong with his club either. never take Jonty he,s a rocket!! R u going to start picking on him now, and by the way this forum exsists to present any opinion dealing with antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:40:34 PM
Hey NC hes a good guy, getting what he deserves, he has also done the NHL final this year, and i seen him at croke in all ireland semi-final minor game, nothing wrong with his club either. never take Jonty he,s a rocket!! R u going to start picking on him now, and by the way this forum exsists to present any opinion dealing with antrim

You are beginning to sound like a possible 'TRUMPET BLOWER' who may have reported the 'Assessor' to the moderator.    Why have you not voted for to bring the 'Assessor' back.  See I was right about you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2008, 05:47:26 PM
I thought having multiple accounts on the board wasnt allowed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 28, 2008, 05:47:26 PM
I thought having multiple accounts on the board wasnt allowed

For who's benefit is that Minder?  Please elaborate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:58:14 PM
maybe its me, i am being treated at the moment for spilit personality dis-order?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:58:14 PM
maybe its me, i am being treated at the moment for spilit personality dis-order?

I agree Minder.  I think this guy is nuts, looped d f****** loop!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 28, 2008, 05:58:14 PM
maybe its me, i am being treated at the moment for spilit personality dis-order?

Hi Square


Do you not get out too often pal!  U still have not voted for the 'Assessor'.  Maybe you are the Assessor!  What do you say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lar na Pairce on October 28, 2008, 06:26:45 PM
will somebody get these 2 idiots off the site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 28, 2008, 06:47:31 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 28, 2008, 06:38:03 PM
can we just talk about hurling. this place is going to the dogs.

Thats what the 'Assessor' and friends want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 28, 2008, 08:54:11 PM
Bert and Ernie need to get back into bed quick what a load of balls ;D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Bert_and_Ernie.JPG)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 28, 2008, 08:54:11 PM
Bert and Ernie need to get back into bed quick what a load of balls ;D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Bert_and_Ernie.JPG)

As sure MR, you are only a second rate whistle blower. In the literal sense!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 28, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
IMHO, the 'Assessor' back on this forum, would at least add a little bit of life to it.  At least he brought a bit of spark and backbone to your meaningless rantings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2008, 09:27:03 PM
how about a meaningful rant then to show people how it's done?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 28, 2008, 11:14:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
I fear that all of our work will be in vain.

Anyway, Janty coming to Rossa. I doubt that many in Rossa would take that very well. I wonder if Shannon will come with him. A playground roundabout for him.

Is Shannon not a Rossa name HS?

What specifically do people not like about the way jonty does things. He seems to have alot of detractors even though he has worked wonders at underage level? That U14 team is the best group of underage hurlers I've seen in years. Is he just a megalomaniac that cannot work within club rules and structures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 28, 2008, 11:36:02 PM
jonty is passionate about hurling, outside of the pitch he's a sound guy and wants hurling to be great in Antrim. he's two lads that are great hurlers and like most dads who have played want their kids to be great. as for his training methods well it works for him. it may rub others and some parents up the wrong way but he gets results, whether this transfers into having a great senior team is up for debate.

St johns have had great Juveniles for years. always bigger and better, come minor and senior it always evens out and they lose the thing that beat teams when the were under 16 and below. a lot of this is down to them losing interest, drink, and teams being able to match or better them. I'd like to see St Johns bring these current kids to the future county teams because as you have said Skull they are quality players at that level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 28, 2008, 11:45:51 PM
Must be real hatred for each other up there in the big smoke. Our U10 were invited to a tournament up at the Johnnies a few weeks back. Was told that out of 8 or more  teams there wasn't another Belfast team in the tournament. That just doesn't happen in N Antrim. We realise that we need each other to ensure that hurling thrives. It was really depressing to hear that there are adults looking after teams in Belfast don't seem to realise that and are biting off their noses as a result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 29, 2008, 08:38:44 AM
Jonty is ok as long as the status quo is maintained in his favour, the teams he has produced are 2nd to none but as far as I can see his long term vision for the future is the Antrim Senior 1st 15 to be his players with him in charge. He doesn't really give a toss about saving hurling in Belfast as far as I can see. The antics of their mentors and parents(esp Shannon,eyes bulging, slabbers flying) at tournaments has to be seen to be believed, thats why the Belfast and surrounding clubs have deserted them.  Its one of the reasons we now play our juv hurling in NA where mostly there is more sensible behaviour from the coaches etc. and there is a greater spirit of cooperation between clubs to improve coaching and push hurling forward. The rising tide floats all boats as they say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on October 29, 2008, 09:03:42 AM
QuoteSt johns have had great Juveniles for years. always bigger and better, come minor and senior it always evens out and they lose the thing that beat teams when the were under 16 and below. a lot of this is down to them losing interest, drink, and teams being able to match or better them.

To be honest from what I hear it's not just the factors you mention which are causing kids to lose interest.  I've heard a couple of stories about various things he's done, like the subs aren't good enough to listen to the team talk before a game.  That's bound to be very disheartening for kids!

Quotethats why the Belfast and surrounding clubs have deserted them.  Its one of the reasons we now play our juv hurling in NA

Are you from St Enda's Last Man?  I've heard rumours that Lamh Dhearg are going to be the next "city" club to play their juvenile football and hurling in South West and North Antrim respectively.  This isn't good - the South Antrim clubs really need to get their own house in order. 

Did Jonty not also decide last year or the year before that his team we're getting enough competition in the South Antrim league and took it upon himself to pull them out of the league.  Their weekends were then spent on trips to various places down south.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 29, 2008, 09:14:25 AM
Yeah he has done a colossal amount of traveling with those kids up and down to the south.

I would say if you looked into the tournaments that he is running then I would say very few of the belfast clubs were invited in the first place, he seems to think that the rest of the belfast clubs have nothing to offer him and his team in the way of competition. I dont think that is the way to be looking at hurling development in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 29, 2008, 10:51:19 AM
Yes Sail In, St.Endas. Rossa, ourselves, Pearse's are the only clubs making any headway after S.John's in and near Belfast( We're not a Belfast Club by the way for those who are prone to generalisation). IMO developing confidence in kids is as important as the skills but I have found that the atmosphere at Corrigan can be quite intimadatory such is the pressure on the St.Johns kids to excel and the way the mentors celebrate their win(they always win) just doesn't sit well with me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a bad loser, in fact as a coach you learn more from losing than winning sometimes but rubbing a 10 or 11 year old kid's nose in it as a loser will do nothing for his development as a hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on October 29, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Just reading through the posts....and no mention of Mageean Cup win for Cross & Passion College. No maybe it wasnt big news but if Maghera won a McRory Cup or Hogan we would certainly be discussing it. Schools play a massive part in our players development. No wonder, you Antrim lads are way behind - no support of schools work. Just an obersvation :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 29, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
i took some cushendall teams at u10 and there was an u11 grade. they would be next yrs u16's. we beat st johns on a few occasions in tournaments and found ourselves uninvited from the tommy best tournament ( i think it was that). we beat them in an all county primary school tournament and when they knew they were getting beat their bigger stronger players started hitting our more skillful players. that was never condoned by their managers.

our club would have had a good link to the johnnies over the yrs and their is a respect their but i often find they are ok when they are beating you, but god forgive if you start beating them. at this age it all needs to be focused on developing players. thats why in the next couple of yrs grades from u12 down are going to be cut and all emphasis will be based on go games.

must agree that johnson is nice fella when you get him away from the pitch and would always come for a chat or say hello if you saw him anywhere

Hi Colonel

I could not agree with you more with regard to St. Johns.  Once those guys put on the Blue and white hooped ganseys their whole demeanor changes which in my experience I can only say it was entirely to the detriment of the game, especially when they were getting beat.   Janty, likewise, a nice guy when away from St. John's.  Sometime back, I was was actually invited by Janty to go up to St. John's to see how he was doing things in terms of coaching young lads.  However, when I had heard about his antics/tactics and they way he tends to do things relating to hurling at St. Johns, I am glad I did not venture up the Whiterock for a perusal.  It would appear Janty is maybe doing things there for his own self gratification.  In a more global context, I have also witnessed the same detrimental actions of North Antrim teams in the local parish derbys.  This does not only exist in south Antrim among teams like St. John's/Rossa and St. Gall's/Lamh Dhearg.  Such inter parish/local derby rivalry in my view is extremely unhealthy and is doing nothing towards the much needed improvement in our game in Antrim.  It is fair to say that the same inter parish rivalry exists in North Antrim also, lets use Dunloy/Loughgiel as an example and in particular this years senior championship replay.  Certainly it was a game game not for the faint hearted, a great spectacle from a hurling perspective, but some dirty off the ball actions dished out.

This type of savagery/butchery which has been administered at local derby games in our county, most certainly does not auger well for the development of the game in Antrim.   Young lads at games and brought to games to watch certain individuals cut each other up is clearly not going to improve are lot in terms of hurling development.   This in my view is all that is wrong in Antrim hurling, too much inter club rivalry, dirty off/on the ball actions particularity in local parish derbys and were we actually promote amongst our kids that it is alright to try and decapitate an opposing player.  When this sort of thing is encouraged by adults, mentors, coaches at various clubs, it will continue to mar our wonderful/magnificent camán agus sliotár game.  Only when this is eradicated from Antrim hurling at juvenile level can we ever hope to improve our standard of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on October 29, 2008, 12:55:06 PM
Again no mention of schools.....its just clubs, clubs, clubs. as long as you get one over your neighbour......then again it s abit like derry club football at min 2 :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 29, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
I think in one post you just summed up your lack or knowledge and understanding of the game of hurling.

Hurling is passionate game and you are never going to get more passionate games than local derbies. If you look at the first game of Dunloy and Loughgiel both teams went at it hammer and tongs and hardly an incident in the whole game and barring a couple of silly incidents towards the end of the replay (which is a fault of replays as much as anything else) then it was probably one of the more intense games of hurling in the county in the last while. We dont need to discourage this type of game as it is this type of intensity that is brought by our southern counterparts.

What we need to do is getting 5 - 6 more teams up to the standard of being able to live with that type of game. We need every game in the top league to bring some sort of intensity with it, not these namby pamby games that have been happening in the past few years. Once you get the the other teams up to that level of skill then we can work on the finer points of the matches themselves. But it is going to take that before Hurling in Antrim before we go anywhere!

(as well as all the ground work being done in the school as that is where it all starts, happy now!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 29, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
I think in one post you just summed up your lack or knowledge and understanding of the game of hurling.

Hurling is passionate game and you are never going to get more passionate games than local derbies. If you look at the first game of Dunloy and Loughgiel both teams went at it hammer and tongs and hardly an incident in the whole game and barring a couple of silly incidents towards the end of the replay (which is a fault of replays as much as anything else) then it was probably one of the more intense games of hurling in the county in the last while. We dont need to discourage this type of game as it is this type of intensity that is brought by our southern counterparts.

What we need to do is getting 5 - 6 more teams up to the standard of being able to live with that type of game. We need every game in the top league to bring some sort of intensity with it, not these namby pamby games that have been happening in the past few years. Once you get the the other teams up to that level of skill then we can work on the finer points of the matches themselves. But it is going to take that before Hurling in Antrim before we go anywhere!

(as well as all the ground work being done in the school as that is where it all starts, happy now!)



Hi Nag

I think you are taking this out of context.  I am certainly all for intense, hard, manful and hurling played with pace and physicality.  I really do think I have experience and knowledge of the game than you think, I have the scars, knocks and wounds to prove it. What I was alluding to, which you failed miserably in comprehending, is that there is a distinct difference in young lads being taught/coached in how to be physical and manly as opposed to trying to physically maim each other at the behest of their coaches and mentors an din some cases parents

Unlike you, you among others in this forum are probably one of those self pontificating school teachers who is promoting text book hurling and who has probably never been actively engaged in a physical game of hurling of any meaning.  I could be wrong of course, which I am always willing to concede.

However, in order to make the key point a little more obvious.  There is not point in fellas like you using an anonymous 'Antrim hurling forum' to sit and whinge, bemoan and ridicule the state of hurling or what needs to done to improve Antrim hurling.  Sitting here talking about it, does nothing, changes nothing and improves absolutely nothing.  If your and others are really serious about changing/improving hurling in Antrim, I would suggest your actions will speak greater volumes that your idol words.

I for one have played for club and county, coached at all ages at my own club level, and also coached at other clubs where hurling was dead nor ever existed. I have trained as a qualified coach also which enhances my credentials, can you and others say the same?  I doubt it!

Now, before you start getting personal, this is not a direct attack on you, but a calculated and honest reply to your demeaning/undermining comment, "you just summed up your lack or knowledge and understanding of the game of hurling".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 02:28:59 PM
So NAG.

Are you happy no!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 29, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
I don't think the charlatan is totally wide of the mark in terms of the juvenile hurling where interparish rivalries go too far and its' certainly an issue in the Ards where the environment and pressure put on youngsters to win at all costs is certainly detrimental to their own development and potentially puts some youngsters off continuing playing the games in later years.

After what I've witnessed in recent years where so called adults have verbally abused youngsters as young as 12 not to mention constant pitch incursions by mentors and spectators alike. Recent Feile competitions have been an absolute disgrace and if I had anything to do with them in Down, I'd cancel the bloody thing until the clubs gained a proper perspective on whats right for the youngsters involved rather than some individuals trying to live out the hurling career they never had most because they hadn't the balls to take themselves into a dark room.

Senior hurling is totally different where a bit of bite makes the game more interesting rather than watching some friendly pitch opening which is like paint drying no matter how high the score is. It's a manly game and although it can go over the top at times the game would be ruined if the physical element was removed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 29, 2008, 02:45:19 PM
asses sorry charlatan


You know nothing about my back ground in the game so therefore I would kindly ask you not to judge something you have no knowledge of.

My point of your lack of knowledge was based soley on your post which I felt was wrong. The point being that if the coaching structures were better in clubs and schools then the parish rivalry and city rivalries would bring the intensity to macth the increased skill level from the good coaching.

We all know that common sense should prevail at under age games and that no one should be over stepping the mark, but it is allying this type of discipline to the type of intensity that inter parish rivalry brings that will bring success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 29, 2008, 02:45:19 PM
asses sorry charlatan


You know nothing about my back ground in the game so therefore I would kindly ask you not to judge something you have no knowledge of.

My point of your lack of knowledge was based soley on your post which I felt was wrong. The point being that if the coaching structures were better in clubs and schools then the parish rivalry and city rivalries would bring the intensity to macth the increased skill level from the good coaching.

We all know that common sense should prevail at under age games and that no one should be over stepping the mark, but it is allying this type of discipline to the type of intensity that inter parish rivalry brings that will bring success.

Nag, a chara.

Now you are debating.  Good man.

As I said, I am be wrong and I frequently am friend, I am always prepared to concede that.  But the basic question then to be asked, if coaching structures in clubs and schools are not up to the mark, what are people on an Antrim Hurling forum doing about it?  That really is the question.  We can all sit here and debate as much as you want.  We can coach and equip our young people with the right skills, techniques etc, etc.  but if they continue be exposed to Seniors hurlers trying to knock seven buckets of Sh** out of each other, you have to ask what example are we leading by.  Young lads being exposed to such things creates the scenario where it is viewed as the norm and acceptable.  This is not what improving the standard of hurling is about, well not in my book.

Physicality, speed of action, speed of mind, pace, guile, craft, cohesion, stick work and instilling self belief is were we really need to get to. In my view, and remember, it is only my view, I honestly don't believe we have the aforementioned attributes nor the physical human resources  and maybe the commitment and desire to archive such things.  I am also of the opinion, the County Board, Ulster Council and particularly those non active/non-traditional hurling clubs in our county have a major role to play.  Hurling needs to be treated with parity not as second fiddle to football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 08:11:06 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on October 29, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Just reading through the posts....and no mention of Mageean Cup win for Cross & Passion College. No maybe it wasnt big news but if Maghera won a McRory Cup or Hogan we would certainly be discussing it. Schools play a massive part in our players development. No wonder, you Antrim lads are way behind - no support of schools work. Just an obersvation :o

well done Cross and Passion, no mean feat in beating a good St Marys team, hope this transfers onto a poor enough Ballycastle team that has failed of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
I think we're all trying to say the similar things guys so we should not be looking too hard to find faults in the small print.

NC just to answer your question which I do find a strange one given what we're discussing "what are people on an Antrim Hurling forum doing about it?  That really is the question.  "

I would say that at least 70%-80% of contributers on the Antrim Hurling forum are as interested about our game as anybody you'll find in Antrim and that they each play important roles in the development and success of their clubs. That is a guess. Why else would people spend their time voicing opinions if they were not prepared to stand behind them and be part of the change that they would like to see? Just because Admin on the Antrim website thinks were wasters doesn't make it true.

I agree 100% with this BTW

QuoteWe can coach and equip our young people with the right skills, techniques etc, etc.  but if they continue be exposed to Seniors hurlers trying to knock seven buckets of Sh** out of each other, you have to ask what example are we leading by.  Young lads being exposed to such things creates the scenario where it is viewed as the norm and acceptable.  This is not what improving the standard of hurling is about, well not in my book.

Physicality, speed of action, speed of mind, pace, guile, craft, cohesion, stick work and instilling self belief is were we really need to get to. In my view, and remember, it is only my view, I honestly don't believe we have the aforementioned attributes nor the physical human resources  and maybe the commitment and desire to archive such things.  I am also of the opinion, the County Board, Ulster Council and particularly those non active/non-traditional hurling clubs in our county have a major role to play.  Hurling needs to be treated with parity not as second fiddle to football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2008, 09:24:17 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 08:11:06 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on October 29, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Just reading through the posts....and no mention of Mageean Cup win for Cross & Passion College. No maybe it wasnt big news but if Maghera won a McRory Cup or Hogan we would certainly be discussing it. Schools play a massive part in our players development. No wonder, you Antrim lads are way behind - no support of schools work. Just an obersvation :o

well done Cross and Passion, no mean feat in beating a good St Marys team, hope this transfers onto a poor enough Ballycastle team that has failed of late

Dont know for certain Milltown but historically Cross and Passion would take a fair few pupils from Loughguile,and probably a few from Cushendall too not sure of the breakdown of clubs though from the school team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 29, 2008, 09:37:27 PM
The C & P Team are spread out from all over North Antrim. 4/5 from Ballycastle who would be U16, with some good hurlers, 3 or 4 from Glenshesk, 1 from Glenariffe & Cushendall, 2 from Loughgiel & Cloughmills. Think they are pretty young team

St Marys have some great hurlers in their team..Shannon, Rocks, Devlin & McClean.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2008, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 29, 2008, 09:37:27 PM
The C & P Team are spread out from all over North Antrim. 4/5 from Ballycastle who would be U16, with some good hurlers, 3 or 4 from Glenshesk, 1 from Glenariffe & Cushendall, 2 from Loughgiel & Cloughmills. Think they are pretty young team

St Marys have some great hurlers in their team..Shannon, Rocks, Devlin & McClean.

Who from Glenariffe Two Hands? Is it Niall Leech?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
I think we're all trying to say the similar things guys so we should not be looking too hard to find faults in the small print.

NC just to answer your question which I do find a strange one given what we're discussing "what are people on an Antrim Hurling forum doing about it?  That really is the question.  "

I would say that at least 70%-80% of contributers on the Antrim Hurling forum are as interested about our game as anybody you'll find in Antrim and that they each play important roles in the development and success of their clubs. That is a guess. Why else would people spend their time voicing opinions if they were not prepared to stand behind them and be part of the change that they would like to see? Just because Admin on the Antrim website thinks were wasters doesn't make it true.

I agree 100% with this BTW

QuoteWe can coach and equip our young people with the right skills, techniques etc, etc.  but if they continue be exposed to Seniors hurlers trying to knock seven buckets of Sh** out of each other, you have to ask what example are we leading by.  Young lads being exposed to such things creates the scenario where it is viewed as the norm and acceptable.  This is not what improving the standard of hurling is about, well not in my book.

Physicality, speed of action, speed of mind, pace, guile, craft, cohesion, stick work and instilling self belief is were we really need to get to. In my view, and remember, it is only my view, I honestly don't believe we have the aforementioned attributes nor the physical human resources  and maybe the commitment and desire to archive such things.  I am also of the opinion, the County Board, Ulster Council and particularly those non active/non-traditional hurling clubs in our county have a major role to play.  Hurling needs to be treated with parity not as second fiddle to football.


The key point I am trying to make here Skull, is that nothing is ever going to change by talking in this forum.  Change may only happen from within, not out on the periphery. There also needs to be a a major desire for persons to get up off their ass, be brave, challenge and lead from the front.  People in this forum can talk all day and pay lip service to all the suggestions in the world as to how to improve our standard of hurling.  Until such times the mold is broken at Casement, County Convention, Ulster Council and to some degree at Pairc an Crocáig, and until new blood, vision and energy are forthcoming, the status quo will remain.  Lets not kid ourselves about this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 29, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
No, I think Niall Murray plays for them.

Cross & Passion : J Black, M Scally, M Donnelly, R McCloskey, N Murray, J McCouaig, D McPeake, C Laverty capt, S Smyth, S Jennings 1-1, J McBride 1-0, S McKee, S McCambridge 1-0, S Birt, C Clarke 0-4frees.
Sub : S McAfee 0-1 for S Jennings (inj).

From Antrim website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 29, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I havent posted or read here in ages, what have i missed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: youngfella on October 29, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I havent posted or read here in ages, what have i missed?

Everyone is debating whether to bring the 'Assessor' back.  Voter early and vote often. The man from North Antrim - he say 'YES' !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: youngfella on October 29, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I havent posted or read here in ages, what have i missed?

It's quite common for young men to drop their friends and pasttimes whenever they get a woman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
I think we're all trying to say the similar things guys so we should not be looking too hard to find faults in the small print.

NC just to answer your question which I do find a strange one given what we're discussing "what are people on an Antrim Hurling forum doing about it?  That really is the question.  "

I would say that at least 70%-80% of contributers on the Antrim Hurling forum are as interested about our game as anybody you'll find in Antrim and that they each play important roles in the development and success of their clubs. That is a guess. Why else would people spend their time voicing opinions if they were not prepared to stand behind them and be part of the change that they would like to see? Just because Admin on the Antrim website thinks were wasters doesn't make it true.

I agree 100% with this BTW

QuoteWe can coach and equip our young people with the right skills, techniques etc, etc.  but if they continue be exposed to Seniors hurlers trying to knock seven buckets of Sh** out of each other, you have to ask what example are we leading by.  Young lads being exposed to such things creates the scenario where it is viewed as the norm and acceptable.  This is not what improving the standard of hurling is about, well not in my book.

Physicality, speed of action, speed of mind, pace, guile, craft, cohesion, stick work and instilling self belief is were we really need to get to. In my view, and remember, it is only my view, I honestly don't believe we have the aforementioned attributes nor the physical human resources  and maybe the commitment and desire to archive such things.  I am also of the opinion, the County Board, Ulster Council and particularly those non active/non-traditional hurling clubs in our county have a major role to play.  Hurling needs to be treated with parity not as second fiddle to football.


The key point I am trying to make here Skull, is that nothing is ever going to change by talking in this forum.  Change may only happen from within, not out on the periphery. There also needs to be a a major desire for persons to get up off their ass, be brave, challenge and lead from the front.  People in this forum can talk all day and pay lip service to all the suggestions in the world as to how to improve our standard of hurling.  Until such times the mold is broken at Casement, County Convention, Ulster Council and to some degree at Pairc an Crocáig, and until new blood, vision and energy are forthcoming, the status quo will remain.  Lets not kid ourselves about this!

unless us posters are committee men then we cant really put forward our ideas untill the clubs AGM's. then we can put forward a motion that we think will make things better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
I think we're all trying to say the similar things guys so we should not be looking too hard to find faults in the small print.

NC just to answer your question which I do find a strange one given what we're discussing "what are people on an Antrim Hurling forum doing about it?  That really is the question.  "

I would say that at least 70%-80% of contributers on the Antrim Hurling forum are as interested about our game as anybody you'll find in Antrim and that they each play important roles in the development and success of their clubs. That is a guess. Why else would people spend their time voicing opinions if they were not prepared to stand behind them and be part of the change that they would like to see? Just because Admin on the Antrim website thinks were wasters doesn't make it true.

I agree 100% with this BTW

QuoteWe can coach and equip our young people with the right skills, techniques etc, etc.  but if they continue be exposed to Seniors hurlers trying to knock seven buckets of Sh** out of each other, you have to ask what example are we leading by.  Young lads being exposed to such things creates the scenario where it is viewed as the norm and acceptable.  This is not what improving the standard of hurling is about, well not in my book.

Physicality, speed of action, speed of mind, pace, guile, craft, cohesion, stick work and instilling self belief is were we really need to get to. In my view, and remember, it is only my view, I honestly don't believe we have the aforementioned attributes nor the physical human resources  and maybe the commitment and desire to archive such things.  I am also of the opinion, the County Board, Ulster Council and particularly those non active/non-traditional hurling clubs in our county have a major role to play.  Hurling needs to be treated with parity not as second fiddle to football.


The key point I am trying to make here Skull, is that nothing is ever going to change by talking in this forum.  Change may only happen from within, not out on the periphery. There also needs to be a a major desire for persons to get up off their ass, be brave, challenge and lead from the front.  People in this forum can talk all day and pay lip service to all the suggestions in the world as to how to improve our standard of hurling.  Until such times the mold is broken at Casement, County Convention, Ulster Council and to some degree at Pairc an Crocáig, and until new blood, vision and energy are forthcoming, the status quo will remain.  Lets not kid ourselves about this!

I see you are impressed MR!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 29, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:42:26 PM

The key point I am trying to make here Skull, is that nothing is ever going to change by talking in this forum.  Change may only happen from within, not out on the periphery. There also needs to be a a major desire for persons to get up off their ass, be brave, challenge and lead from the front.  People in this forum can talk all day and pay lip service to all the suggestions in the world as to how to improve our standard of hurling.  Until such times the mold is broken at Casement, County Convention, Ulster Council and to some degree at Pairc an Crocáig, and until new blood, vision and energy are forthcoming, the status quo will remain.  Lets not kid ourselves about this!

You're right but its good to talk about it here, then actually go and do what you can do away from this forum. Some will still be players, some coaches, others administartors. Everybody will be trying I'm sure to improve hurling. Individuals can only do so much. Collectively that individual effort is making a difference I believe at N Antrim level. County Board level is another question altogether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 10:49:51 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=london%2Ejpg&w=500)

i played against one of these lads this year, what way do the transfers work :-\

oh and fair play to Emments. do they play in the interm. Ulster Championship or staright through to the 1/4 or semi fianls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2008, 10:54:53 PM
Is that Oisin Scullion, Odhrans younger brother on the back row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 07:21:25 AM
MR did you ever play for the County? Skull, Nag,Minder, NC just like to see how many posters on this forum actually played at their highest level for whatever period. Not trying to have a free one mind you, its just to gauge the level of experience of the forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:15 AM
Don't expect people who you accuse of being gutless and a coward to actually converse with you ..................unless I missed that apology
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:15 AM
Don't expect people who you accuse of being gutless and a coward to actually converse with you ..................unless I missed that apology

Hi Skull my firend.

I agree, don't talk to the 'Square' Fec***, he/she is only trying to wind you up.  I think he is a she Camóg anyway and a real wind up merchant.  Floats in and out of here without as much as a 'by your leave'.  I am not in impressed by such hit and run tactics.

So Square, from all us intellectual posters, stay well outside the square!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on October 30, 2008, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 29, 2008, 09:58:09 PM
Quote from: youngfella on October 29, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
I havent posted or read here in ages, what have i missed?

Everyone is debating whether to bring the 'Assessor' back.  Voter early and vote often. The man from North Antrim - he say 'YES' !

Aww the assessor the reason why i disappeared of here. Was he banned?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:15 AM
Don't expect people who you accuse of being gutless and a coward to actually converse with you ..................unless I missed that apology

Hi Skull my firend.

I agree, don't talk to the 'Square' Fec***, he/she is only trying to wind you up.  I think he is a she Camóg anyway and a real wind up merchant.  Floats in and out of here without as much as a 'by your leave'.  I am not in impressed by such hit and run tactics.

So Square, from all us intellectual posters, stay well outside the square!

My friend. Are you really? mmmmmmmm? The mask is slipping me thinks. And you were doing well up to that point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 30, 2008, 10:52:18 AM
What did you play SOTC?

Emmetts seem to have a real dominance over there, well for the last few years anyway.
Played hurling over there myself for a year and it was a real labour of love, which I was willing to do.
Travelling to training, travelling to Ruislip was a tough ask.

Fair play to the gaels that keep it going there and elsewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:15 AM
Don't expect people who you accuse of being gutless and a coward to actually converse with you ..................unless I missed that apology

Hi Skull my firend.

I agree, don't talk to the 'Square' Fec***, he/she is only trying to wind you up.  I think he is a she Camóg anyway and a real wind up merchant.  Floats in and out of here without as much as a 'by your leave'.  I am not in impressed by such hit and run tactics.

So Square, from all us intellectual posters, stay well outside the square!



My friend. Are you really? mmmmmmmm? The mask is slipping me thinks. And you were doing well up to that point.

Hi Skull

What is it with you! Go on tel me, what you you actually inferring by your embolden text.  You agree with me one minute and then you tend to suffer from the split personality syndrome.  Are you really that paranoid?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 11:47:16 AM
Think there is only one split personality about here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
I agree with people who I do not consider friends all the time. If you say something I agree with, I say I agree with you. I personally would never come on here and define myself as intellectual and would be deeply suspicious of anybody else who would. Call it intuition rather than paranoia
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 30, 2008, 11:47:16 AM
Think there is only one split personality about here!

Hi fella

Are you talking to me or him?  Here go the cheap pot shots again.  This seems the permeate throughout this forum!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 01:28:20 PM
Thats a funny assesment.



FFS Lighten up, You walked straight into that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
I agree with people who I do not consider friends all the time. If you say something I agree with, I say I agree with you. I personally would never come on here and define myself as intellectual and would be deeply suspicious of anybody else who would. Call it intuition rather than paranoia

Hi Skull

My sincere apologies if by referring to you as a 'friend' has upset in some way.  I amazed however.  It's certainly not like you to be so unassuming, contrite and righteous and magnanimous.  As for your intuitive attributes, does this mean you are have now given up your 'whistle blowing tendencies'.  You really are turning over the new leaf by all accounts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 30, 2008, 10:52:18 AM
What did you play SOTC?

Emmetts seem to have a real dominance over there, well for the last few years anyway.
Played hurling over there myself for a year and it was a real labour of love, which I was willing to do.
Travelling to training, travelling to Ruislip was a tough ask.

Fair play to the gaels that keep it going there and elsewhere.

Glensman in answer tp your question, all levels all the up and medals to prove it everytime, too many ulster chsp medals, they have lost there value, county ones mean more. Next question?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 02:58:45 PM
well that rules out all but two clubs IMO SOTS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:01:17 PM
To add, unlike some of the posters on this forum. So i can talk from experience! Ask yourself what it might feel like to pull on a Saffron jersey for real? Play in front of 30k plus, and then be suitably embarrassed at the end. I had years of it, being coached by idiots, who where being directed by idiots in the executive, who just wanted a free night and board, with a ticket of course! Got p***** Off with being around losers like that. You want to try it sometime glensman..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:03:45 PM
Sounds like it hasn't been bodieing well for you on the county medal front SOTS  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:03:45 PM
Sounds like it hasn't been bodieing well for you on the county medal front SOTS  ;)
ITG did you read the previous posts?? Sounds like i have more in the cabinet than you will ever dream of! Been there got all the cheap t shirts and got out. You all talk on this forum about what can be done, how many of you have really gone through it, very few i would think. You turn up and play a club match and think thats a pain in the ass, especially whoever the Butcher baker Candlestick maker committee decide has passed there primary school criteria, Jesus lads you want to see at the next level, wan a be MICKO DWYERS all of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:27:40 PM
Ah, another person with a chip on their shoulder about people with opinions who may or may not have done anything about them I see. I mistook you for a rational poster, my mistake.

What has been said or done on this forum that yourself and your other man feel you have the right to now come on and castigate people for having opinions ?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:03:45 PM
Sounds like it hasn't been bodieing well for you on the county medal front SOTS  ;)
ITG did you read the previous posts?? Sounds like i have more in the cabinet than you will ever dream of! Been there got all the cheap t shirts and got out. You all talk on this forum about what can be done, how many of you have really gone through it, very few i would think. You turn up and play a club match and think thats a pain in the ass, especially whoever the Butcher baker Candlestick maker committee decide has passed there primary school criteria, Jesus lads you want to see at the next level, wan a be MICKO DWYERS all of them

Hi Square

Cool down for FFS, you wanna give some of these some of these Hero/Self Righteous posters a coronary!  Like you, sometimes a little embarrassed to say you played for the county especially after a good whooping!  I concur totally with your sentiments.  In fact, I think some of the impostors in this forum don't even turn up to play a match!

Enough said Square!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
SOTS is you are going to castigate those at the next level that you called 'idiots' do you want to elaborate what era are we, are pre dinny cahill and if so how far back.

who was a wanna be MICKO then, we are intrigued?

(funny he always follows you in to back you up)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:27:40 PM
Ah, another person with a chip on their shoulder about people with opinions who may or may not have done anything about them I see. I mistook you for a rational poster, my mistake.

What has been said or done on this forum that yourself and your other man feel you have the right to now come on and castigate people for having opinions ?



You have hit the nail right on the head, i have done something about, for years travelling the Length and breadth of ireland playing for my county which i did with pride, it was the ass*oles that came along for the freebees, and the ass*oles that wrote in the paper the next day who not even at the game, but would take the high moral ground to get a wage. and of course the as*oles that hide behind a desk, and compensate for their own shortcomings and lack of ability, just watch the news everynight can,t get away from them. The county then put in an ass**** for the next 7 years who was a soccer man through and through. Did a couple of academic courses and started to then coach and take the 30 pieces of silver, i ask YOUR COUNTY IN THEIR HANDS< the Cork boys are right," they play they say"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 03:42:51 PM
a soccer man am i missing something here?

or was this in the 40's or something
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
So what do you do now if you "did" play for the county SOTS?

If it's boys in charge you're talking about why you venting your anger on people here?

Get a bad report in the paper one day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:45:13 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 30, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
SOTS is you are going to castigate those at the next level that you called 'idiots' do you want to elaborate what era are we, are pre dinny cahill and if so how far back.

who was a wanna be MICKO then, we are intrigued?

(funny he always follows you in to back you up)

Now NAG, come on if you where part of it you would know who i am referring to, i must stop that split personality of mine from going onto this forum as NC? Down boy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: NAG on October 30, 2008, 03:42:51 PM
a soccer man am i missing something here?

or was this in the 40's or something

You are obviously not as well informed as you should be NAG, do your homework! You must be off this week for halloween. Like the rest of us in the glorious profession.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:50:24 PM
NC where r u! R u not backing me up, r u a member of the glorious profession.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 03:50:47 PM
where is this teacher BS coming from, I actually have to work to get paid.

well enlighten me then if i am so ill informed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:56:48 PM
I think we all need to become KOSC, then it will all become clear, i refer to the new secretary, more clubs than Jack as they say. Consider yourself now educated by a fellow member of the profession
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 30, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
Oh No there at it again, NC you definitely sound like a poster of old? SOTS bad move, very unfair to refer to the KOSC on this site, not the place, i resent the comment and i think that you should withdraw it, this antrim forum is going down the toilet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 04:04:28 PM
FFS lads,  you are all getting PARANOID!  Why is that when someone on this poxy forum (allegedly about 'Antrim Hurling') speaks openly, frankly and with some degree of authority and knowledge that you have to then verbally attack them?  Come on relax get a ladder and get over your selves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 30, 2008, 04:13:35 PM
NC is you think this place is the waste of time that your posts suggest why dont you pack up and go, no one is keeping you here or actually that bothered about what you are saying because most of it is just running down the board and running down the guys that post here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 03:50:24 PM
NC where r u! R u not backing me up, r u a member of the glorious profession.

Oi Square, relax.

Nah, I am not a teacher, a good coach, but not a teacher, (god forbid).

If only I could realise my ambition instead of packing the shelves in Tescos.  I am aspiring to be one of them guys on the turnstiles at Casement (the one for them, three for me club) get my drift.  That way I could jack Tescos in, and fec**** play on the GAABOARD all day, just like the Teachers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 04:27:20 PM
Hi Guys

Please forgive my ignorance but what is this KOSC shit?

See I am country bumpkin, and not fully up to speed on acronyms.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 05:32:32 PM
Maybe you boy(s) could form your own breakaway thread and share your wisdom among yourselves so people on this "poxy" thread could get on with this "poxy" thread in peace?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2008, 03:44:05 PM
So what do you do now if you "did" play for the county SOTS?

If it's boys in charge you're talking about why you venting your anger on people here?


Exactly. The second question especially.

You sound like John McCain BTW  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
Christ, i've just got a sore head from reading all that crap. come on lads, your wind up is boring. stick to the Hogan Stand zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:06:06 PM
Just back from class MR? No tea breaks today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:07:49 PM
NC where are you?????? Getting lonely here, i think we should start our thread, How about "Real Antrim Hurlers"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
Christ, i've just got a sore head from reading all that crap. come on lads, your wind up is boring. stick to the Hogan Stand zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Ah MR!  We have not heard from you in a while.  Must have been busy scanning the County Board Website for all those nice photos of the (rejects - ooop!) exiles.  I must remember to chose my words carefully here, the Skull maybe watching (ya know, peep peep! and all that).  He may be a good candidate for the Referees Academy.

MR (The second rate whistler blower).  Whats wrong, ur little forum/thread getting really 'shook up' again? You want to be the Landlord and Squatter I guess!

Anybody got two paracetamol for MR?  Poor fellow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:07:49 PM
NC where are you?????? Getting lonely here, i think we should start our thread, How about "Real Antrim Hurlers"

Hi Sqaure

I'm game.  MAYBE WE SHOULD CALL IT, The Real Antrim Hurling Forum - for hurlers who hurled, bled, sweated and cried, and also know what they are talking about pertaining to hurling?

Wadda say?  I suppose you will have to ask fr MR's permission first.  PLEASE SIR (hand raised) can I .........!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:18:04 PM
NC you have,nt answered my question? What say we move threads and talk real hurling from real experience,i think the skull should be invited toooooo!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:20:30 PM
NC the Honour is all yours, would you like to be the first and have your name permanently on the 1st page, just in case another whistle blower pops up!!!! My money is on MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:23:03 PM
If you don,t start spelling my name right i meet you outside casement myself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:23:03 PM
If you don,t start spelling my name right i meet you outside casement myself?

Hi Skullnumb, are you the Square also?  FFS, niow you have a triple split personality! WOW!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
outside Casement? i prefer inside casement, as for the second rate refereeing i'm insulted >:( it's people like you that put people off doing things for the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:29:08 PM
I am getting fec**** dizzy here, I don't know who's who anymore - phew!  I really think I am in the wrong place. Is this the Antrim Handball site?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:32:16 PM
How can hurling ability be a pre requisite for changing Antrims fortunes? The current chairman was a rubbish player on the odd occasion he togged out and an even worse referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:34:08 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
outside Casement? i prefer inside casement, as for the second rate refereeing i'm insulted >:( it's people like you that put people off doing things for the county

Hi MR

What do you do for the county, DRINK?  For what reason would you be inside Casement, other than drinking.  Are you on th executive or are you a member of the  'one for them, three for me club?

Probably a KOSC member as well.  So that's where they hold the meetings? I have been going to the wrong place for years, I though it was at the bottom of Miltown Row!  FFS, this thread has me lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
Minder Great man, i totally agree, 20 fags big belly no personality, jesus NC you should run!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:32:16 PM
How can hurling ability be a pre requisite for changing Antrims fortunes? The current chairman was a rubbish player on the odd occasion he togged out and an even worse referee.

Now we are getting to the truth MINDER.  I really would like to know, what has Dr. John got to do with this site or discussion.  Why don't you go onto the County website and say those sorts of things.  better still, why don't you arrange to meet him outside casement Social and knock his block off.  Sure, like other's, ya would nae turn up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:39:56 PM
Carrickmore have won their appeal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:41:39 PM
Good man minder, great news NC who should referee this one? It will be a blood bath, time to get barry kelly i think!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on October 30, 2008, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:39:56 PM
Carrickmore have won their appeal

surprized about that, hope that they get stuffed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
Minder Great man, i totally agree, 20 fags big belly no personality, jesus NC you should run!!!!

Hi Square - bye bye!

peep! peep!  I am telling the moderator on you.  Thats getting personal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:44:33 PM
You havent answered my question? What correlation is there between hurling ability and an ability to improve Antrims fortunes. You have been waxing lyrical about your talents for a couple of days now. I believe the example i used is a pertinent one,the person in the highest office in Antrim Gaa was a rubbish player and ref,of that there can be no dispute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2008, 06:39:56 PM
Carrickmore have won their appeal

Come on Carrickmore, get intae them!  good for ulster hurling, good for west belfast.  All the joyriders, muggers D***dealers will be away playing hurling for a few hours.  thank god, the people in Turf, will get a bit of respite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GAAboardmod1 on October 30, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
Stayousidethesquare and NonCharlatan have been banned for their "contribution" to our board. This thread will be under watch from us mods, so if there is any further play acting we will not be willing to tolerate it and further bans will be given. These bans will be permanent. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 30, 2008, 08:33:26 PM
Looks like its happened again, ok boys who was it this time? 2 Rockets gone to the moon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 08:42:47 PM
nob ends are gone  ;D. i'm afraid to go to Casement on Sunday now. a feck it i'll be in my usual spot :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 08:49:38 PM
Strike up the band............I wonder how long before they he is back reinvented and renamed. I suppose they cant be on here all the time as the Antrim guestbook needs moderated.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 30, 2008, 09:09:24 PM
I might be in the wrong place, but sure 'Immortality Beckons'

the charlatan

anyway. tough break on Gortnamona. but they should hammer them easy enough. the extra game will do them no harm. though Laiotrim have to wait a while longer.

fancy the final to be tougher, the down team arent bad. seen them this year and the are a gritty team with some stylish hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
I see I didn't miss much. Grown up don't go on like that do they? That has to be the childer  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 31, 2008, 07:02:09 AM
Quote from: GAAboardmod1 on October 30, 2008, 08:22:36 PM
Stayousidethesquare and NonCharlatan have been banned for their "contribution" to our board. 

About f**king time - this thread was becoming increasingly annoying.  Back to the topic and i am surprised at the Carrickmore appeal going through but as has been said before i think Gort na Mona will tank them this time around (hopefully).  Don't see any hurling fixtures for this weekend so i take it the line has been drawn and the leagues are settled for next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 31, 2008, 07:31:16 AM
Disagree lads, carrickmore will be no push over, hard and physical team. I think the Gorts will struggle even more this time around, it will very much depend on their frame of mind, and the referee(Which i hate to say), if the right man is not in the middle the game, it could explode, which as seen in the past the gorts discipline can be very volatile to say the least. I punt for carrickmore on this one? Bad decision though by the CAC, another major boob by the GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 31, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
Jesus lads thats relief, this thread was heading down hill fast.

However I give them to later today to they are back in another disguise.

I have to say I have been impressed with the GNM club and the work that they have put into the games up there on the hill. They should be commended by all antrim people and as such deserve our support in the up coming match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 31, 2008, 08:52:49 AM
Hopefully this thread will get back to normal.......a bit of banter is good craic but it all went down the tubes rapidly over the past couple of weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 31, 2008, 08:55:51 AM
QuoteDisagree lads, carrickmore will be no push over, hard and physical team. I think the Gorts will struggle even more this time around, it will very much depend on their frame of mind, and the referee(Which i hate to say), if the right man is not in the middle the game, it could explode, which as seen in the past the gorts discipline can be very volatile to say the least. I punt for carrickmore on this one? Bad decision though by the CAC, another major boob by the GAA.

Carrickmore to win by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2008, 09:26:51 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 31, 2008, 08:55:51 AM
QuoteDisagree lads, carrickmore will be no push over, hard and physical team. I think the Gorts will struggle even more this time around, it will very much depend on their frame of mind, and the referee(Which i hate to say), if the right man is not in the middle the game, it could explode, which as seen in the past the gorts discipline can be very volatile to say the least. I punt for carrickmore on this one? Bad decision though by the CAC, another major boob by the GAA.

Carrickmore to win by 2.

The oracle has spoken
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 31, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
Thank feic those 2 sad gits are gone,they'll be back but not hard to spot fortunately. Should be ignored at all costs.
Who is taking C'more this season, big Rogie was up their for a while wasn't he. I remember him saying he nearly had to look away at some of the strokes those boys were pullin. Spose you have to take that with a pinch of salt for he's a great man for an ould yarn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 31, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
Thank feic those 2 sad gits are gone,they'll be back but not hard to spot fortunately. Should be ignored at all costs.
Who is taking C'more this season, big Rogie was up their for a while wasn't he. I remember him saying he nearly had to look away at some of the strokes those boys were pullin. Spose you have to take that with a pinch of salt for he's a great man for an ould yarn.

Rogie is well qualified to speak on what is and isnt a dirty stroke though..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 31, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
McKinley was taking them at times over the past few years and this year I think it is Gabriel O'Kane.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 31, 2008, 10:15:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 31, 2008, 10:09:40 AM
McKinley was taking them at times over the past few years and this year I think it is Gabriel O'Kane.

Can't be local, isn't everyone up there called McCallan? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 31, 2008, 10:16:06 AM
Bye Bye boys.

Is there a date for the replay (is that what it should be called?).

I'd say it will be hard hitting stuff, would love to listen to the GNM team talk. They have a right to be agrrieved and no doubt it will be played upon.

I have discussed Carrickmore's plea as well though and however you view it there is merit in the point that you play differently depending on how many points you think you are behind. Whether they actually did think they were a certain number of points behind or or not is another matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 31, 2008, 10:29:58 AM
QuoteWhether they actually did think they were a certain number of points behind or or not is another matter.
I would say that is the reason they appealed as they probably played off what the referee was telling them.  A scoreboard would have been handy.  O'Kane is a former Derry manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 31, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
Thank feic those 2 sad gits are gone,they'll be back but not hard to spot fortunately. Should be ignored at all costs.
Who is taking C'more this season, big Rogie was up their for a while wasn't he. I remember him saying he nearly had to look away at some of the strokes those boys were pullin. Spose you have to take that with a pinch of salt for he's a great man for an ould yarn.

Rogie is well qualified to speak on what is and isnt a dirty stroke though..........

Unlike Glenariffe Minder? ::)

I would have never considered big Gerard a dirty hurler. Was a wile ganch and would probably say that himself but I was always impressed with the passion he had for the game and I think he played a hard brand but just about on the edge and wasn't overly cynical. Certainly the most angelic of the four of them  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on October 31, 2008, 11:36:03 AM
Aye skull I was going to say he wasnt even the dirtiest hurler in his own house, that award would go to the paddy fella!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 31, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: NAG on October 31, 2008, 11:36:03 AM
Aye skull I was going to say he wasnt even the dirtiest hurler in his own house, that award would go to the paddy fella!

Aye but Paddy was the best stickman out of them, he was a tidy hurler in his day.

Big Ger was an effective lad and I remember the day in dundalk when he gave Harry Ryan an awful going over, Harry was far from angelic himself though, Jim Nelson panicked and took Ger off in case he got sent off and it was only then that Kilkenny got a march on Antrim. big Ger wasn't a happy camper as he trudged off.

Anton, Ger and Paddy, don't tell me Martin also played a bit also??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2008, 12:00:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 31, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 31, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
Thank feic those 2 sad gits are gone,they'll be back but not hard to spot fortunately. Should be ignored at all costs.
Who is taking C'more this season, big Rogie was up their for a while wasn't he. I remember him saying he nearly had to look away at some of the strokes those boys were pullin. Spose you have to take that with a pinch of salt for he's a great man for an ould yarn.

Rogie is well qualified to speak on what is and isnt a dirty stroke though..........

Unlike Glenariffe Minder? ::)

I would have never considered big Gerard a dirty hurler. Was a wile ganch and would probably say that himself but I was always impressed with the passion he had for the game and I think he played a hard brand but just about on the edge and wasn't overly cynical. Certainly the most angelic of the four of them  :)

Glass houses and all that Skull........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2008, 12:03:32 PM
He did mo chara  :) . Hurls reserves for a while

Hands like shovels, thought I down remember anyone every saying that he had a good hand

Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2008, 12:00:55 PM
Glass houses and all that Skull........

Youre right Minder.....I should have posted those very words instead  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2008, 01:50:12 PM
martin played all through juvenile and a bit of reserve. had to mark him many a time. as said, hands like shovels but could catch a cold.

paddy was a great hurler and Ger played at the highest level. some of the other brothers didn't play at all.

Carrickmore wont come that close lads. Gorts to win by 7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 31, 2008, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 31, 2008, 01:50:12 PM
some of the other brothers didn't play at all.



There's more? Holy f**k, I'd hate to pay for the groceries in that house, all big men..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2008, 03:36:52 PM
The Trial for the Senior Hurling Panel will take place in Casement Park on Tuesday 4th November at 7.30pm.
All players are asked to bring full playing/ training  gear

N B   Only those players whose names have been submitted will be permitted to take part in the trial (closing date Friday 31st Oct 5pm)

To date only 5  clubs
St Endas
Armoy
Ballymena
Rasharkin
Cloughmills
have responded to the request to supply players for the Senior Hurling Trials

The closing date for the submission of names is 5pm today (31/10/08)

first i seen this, and the closing date is today at 5  >:(  right will have to phone and see if i can get on board ;)

need to pull on that jersey Charlatan kept talking about and the other one cant mind his name
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on October 31, 2008, 04:13:07 PM
MR i totally disagree, think carrickmore will win, gorts are not the force they used to be, discipline will let them down. I hope i am wrong but you must go with your gut on this one, i say the Tyrone boys will cause an upset. Minder love the compliment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2008, 08:13:40 AM
I think there is an Alex Rogan too, dont think he hurled but i only know of him cos he got married 9 months ago and it cost him £30k. He is no longer married. Ouch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 02, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
Any word on Gorts??

Hopefully they make it to the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 02, 2008, 06:42:05 PM
Gorts game not till next week, on another note i'd like to congratulate Karl stewart on his award for the Ulster Hurler of the year. recieved last night at a Banquet in Monaghan. first time anyone form the club to get this. no better lad. fair dues Karl
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 02, 2008, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 31, 2008, 03:36:52 PM
The Trial for the Senior Hurling Panel will take place in Casement Park on Tuesday 4th November at 7.30pm.
All players are asked to bring full playing/ training  gear

N B   Only those players whose names have been submitted will be permitted to take part in the trial (closing date Friday 31st Oct 5pm)

To date only 5  clubs
St Endas
Armoy
Ballymena
Rasharkin
Cloughmills
have responded to the request to supply players for the Senior Hurling Trials

The closing date for the submission of names is 5pm today (31/10/08)

first i seen this, and the closing date is today at 5  >:(  right will have to phone and see if i can get on board ;)

need to pull on that jersey Charlatan kept talking about and the other one cant mind his name


How does running trials tie in with the no group training before January rule??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 02, 2008, 10:24:45 PM
SCB..you're allowed to organise a couple of trial matches in November & December by no collective trainin

Clubs from the lower leagues complain about their players not getting a chance with the county...but only 5 clubs have submitted players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2008, 11:24:22 PM
This is nothing more than a PR exercise, Dinny used to select a few fellas from lower leagues that usually never hit leather for Antrim so then you cant be accused of not giving everyone a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 03, 2008, 05:00:21 PM
Minder i think it works both ways, as two hands says they have to be asked. they will get the opportunity to show they are good enough. the way it will prob work out is that only a couple will be up to standard anyway to be included in the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 03, 2008, 05:22:13 PM
Supposedly the trialists are playing the Gorts in a friendly Tuesday night. Intelligent thinking if so.

Anyone confirm/deny/provide times on this.


Not sure its the clubs that complain Two Hands but a couple of punters from a couple of clubs on Hoganstand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on November 04, 2008, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 29, 2008, 10:49:51 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=london%2Ejpg&w=500)

i played against one of these lads this year, what way do the transfers work :-\

oh and fair play to Emments. do they play in the interm. Ulster Championship or staright through to the 1/4 or semi fianls

Is that Niall "nipper" Higgins from Glenavy/ Glenravel doing nets?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 05, 2008, 12:38:30 AM
Just read this on the Antrim website

Quote
Name : Eyes & Ears
04 November 2008
Some interesting comments being posted on the ???? by so called Antrim Hurling supporters. These guys are continually lambasting, criticising and foul mouthing developments in the county. Is the County Executive not in a position to have this so called '????' forum scrapped? The contributing Antrim hurling supporters who use this forum are frequently running down the county board and have nothing but negative, slanderous and defamatory comments to make about hurling in the county in general, but more worrying, about some of the individuals who serve the county. ??????? ??? and some idiot called '??? ?????' who I understand also makes contributions to the Antrim county web site appear to be the main perpetrators of the most spurious and pathetic comments posted there. We should discourage all Antrim Gaels from using such underhand/slanderous forums.

No, this is an independent website which apparently cannot be controlled by any "official" organisation - legal or sporting. We do agree with everything you have said, but we deleted the name of the forum and the pseudonyms used by contributors to that forum, as we don't want to give them any attention from those who know little about them. Those that are aware of this forum, know only too well who and what you are talking about.

I see someone has found a soul mate.

milltown....I think we both got a mention. Spurious and Pathetic comments on the Antrim website. Would love them to point them out to me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 05, 2008, 08:00:19 AM
Wouldnt be surprised if it is Johnny Ping composing that post then replying to himself.............An apple a day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on November 05, 2008, 08:47:01 AM
 :D :D :D. I know who I think looks pathetic in this particular argument.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 05, 2008, 08:48:14 AM
I have given them my tuppence worth, not sure it will be "aired" though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
I fail to see what is that bad that is written on this site.

Sure let them read a board like the Derry board if they want to see a bad one.

Whoever runs the county site, and they post here too I'm sure, needs to realise that free speech is allowed. Don't get me wrong the site looks good but the admin's attitude leaves a bit to be desired.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on November 05, 2008, 10:10:37 AM
Higgins gets about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 05, 2008, 12:09:14 PM
I also fail to see what is bad that is written on this site.  It is indeed an independent website - read it or don't.

If there are spurious/pathetic comments on here then who in their right mind would put any stock/value behind them. The mumblings of a few interested folk don't have to be listened to but a forum where people can share their ideas, stories, theories, reports should not and cannot be shut down. The freedom of speech is something that can never be taken away.
The people that on here that last, that check it regularly enough or drop in and out when free, that make comments/suggestions are dedicated enough hurling/football men (in my opinion) that take the time to do so.

The one and main stick that is used to beat this and other sites is that of the anonymity "those hiding behind internet aliases". This type of forum and the honesty that it brings can only exist where there is a form of anonymity. I say nothing on here that I wouldn't say to my friends, those of whom I speak to about the GAA and about things Antrim hurling (and football) but I am not willing to put my name on this site for someone who has played against me, doesn't like me for other reasons (like kissing his ex), has had a bad morning etc to be allowed to undermine me (or try to) by some stupid personal vendetta. You have to realise this.

Take it as the suggestion/comment box at mass - the priest can read the suggestions/comments, have a chuckle, take them on board or dispel them immediately.
When I personally feel strongly enough to go past that veil of anonymity I will and I have to the relevant people.

By constantly referring to 'the website' or the 'independent message board' others and Eyes & Ears are actually publicising that it exists.
Eyes and Ears - if you are out there you are welcome to come on here and discuss the debate and any spurious/pathetic comments that have been made.

This site is moderated by men who encourage GAA debate. Some on here have stepped out of line, have made personal allegations/comments and such like and have been warned or removed and not allowed to post again.

Grow up a little.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 05, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
And...

How did the trial match go last night for the Junior/Intermediate hurlers. Anyone up at it? Anyone stand out?
Might be a PR exercise but if it unearths a couple of hurlers then it has served its purpose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on November 05, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
QuoteHow did the trial match go last night for the Junior/Intermediate hurlers. Anyone up at it? Anyone stand out?

I wasn't up at it or anything but I texted one of the lads in our club asking how they got on.  He said that the "county" beat Gortnamona by 6 (I assume that was Gorts minus Nipper Quinn though).  He said that there were a couple of poor enough players at it, but that overall the standard wasn't bad and it was a good game.

PS - well done to whoever came up with the idea of having the trial like this - a game that would have a wee bit of bite in it rather than just dividing the players at the trial into 2 teams.  Better for the players at the trial, better for the selectors watching it, and a worthwhile exercise for Gorts too - it wouldn't be easy getting competitive games at this time of year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 05, 2008, 12:56:39 PM
Quinn injured Sail In?
Hope not.

Agree with the praise of the idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on November 05, 2008, 02:05:23 PM
QuoteQuinn injured Sail In?

Naw - as far as I know he's working down in Dublin full time now, that's all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 05, 2008, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 05, 2008, 08:48:14 AM
I have given them my tuppence worth, not sure it will be "aired" though.

Apart from the few posts about someones personal life which was quickly nipped in the bud this thread is one of the more rational on the discussion board with a bit of slagging but nothing out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 05, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Name : StayoutsidetheCasementSocialClub05 November 2008County Admin.

Such rantings from contributors of the G**B**** Forum does not warrant in my view, your measured and intelligent responses. you should really ignore these begrudgers and certainly do not permit them to even attempt to justify their supposed loyalty to our county. These persons it must be said have no valid contribution to make to our county's development. Let them rant, critisise, ridicule, lambast, defame and offend who ever they wish to via the safe haven of their devious and deceptive antics on their preciuos little forum.

Certainly do not permit them to grace the county website or guestbook with such meaningless diatribe. Their foul mouths and negativity have no place here!

The Skull and his cohorts, have started believing their own press and they do actually belive they are making some form of positive contribution to the development of Antrim Hurling. There is currently a high degree of paranoia setting in among them also, they actually believe a members of the county executive have been infiltrating their forum recently, an in fact masquerading as the couty Chairman, Dr. McSparran. you may now appreciate the level of intelligence (or lack of) you are dealing with here. Ostracise the G**B**** contributors!

there he is,  i thought we lost ya ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 05, 2008, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 05, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Name : StayoutsidetheCasementSocialClub05 November 2008County Admin.

Such rantings from contributors of the G**B**** Forum does not warrant in my view, your measured and intelligent responses. you should really ignore these begrudgers and certainly do not permit them to even attempt to justify their supposed loyalty to our county. These persons it must be said have no valid contribution to make to our county's development. Let them rant, critisise, ridicule, lambast, defame and offend who ever they wish to via the safe haven of their devious and deceptive antics on their preciuos little forum.

Certainly do not permit them to grace the county website or guestbook with such meaningless diatribe. Their foul mouths and negativity have no place here!

The Skull and his cohorts, have started believing their own press and they do actually belive they are making some form of positive contribution to the development of Antrim Hurling. There is currently a high degree of paranoia setting in among them also, they actually believe a members of the county executive have been infiltrating their forum recently, an in fact masquerading as the couty Chairman, Dr. McSparran. you may now appreciate the level of intelligence (or lack of) you are dealing with here. Ostracise the G**B**** contributors!

there he is,  i thought we lost ya ::) ::)

Just noticed that Milltown, he is nothing more than a "contempible, anonymous lunatic"..........Come back Stayoutsidethesquare/Non Charlatan/Bob The Builder/Shit for Brains.......(The last two were suggestions for your next "handle")......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimexile on November 06, 2008, 12:32:49 AM
The Antrim hurling league is a shambles.  Cushendall treat it with contempt, as too did Ballycastle in the 1980s.  (Can anyone name who won the league betwenn 1980 and say 2000??  I can not.  Yet I know who won and lost every Co. championship final in those years. )

Antrim club players need more meaningful games, ie championship games!  Games with "intensity".
play the league off in jan + feb -like the waterford crystal/ or Leinster league that antrim won in 2008.   
Then play the championship off: as a round robin/ league format-ONLY with Antrim teams.   The Ards teams are good, however, they DO NOT help Antrim hurling!  Do you see Kilkenny being accomodating to say Carlow teams? 
The Ards teams can look to Down or the Ulster league......

Also we need an outsider as manager.  We are too bitter at club level!  Dinny Cahill did okay in 2002+2003.  Sambo was a great player, but is a hopeless manager!  We need an outsider.  In the early 1980s Offaly got - Healy from Kilkenny, reorganised the club championship, started afresh-with players who did not hate each other........
If Antrim have ambition-which i doubt!  We should approach Ger Loughnane or Tony Considine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on November 06, 2008, 10:05:40 AM
The Antrim league was the best league for years. The divisions next year look to be fantastic with all leagues well matched, i am looking forward to the start of a competitive competition.
The County Down teams playing in our league help the quality, and lets call a spade a spade by them being in division one should spur the likes of Rossa, St Johns ,Glenariffe, to work harder, but it isn't it just presents another excuse for those clubs whose parishes are no bigger and in the case of Rossa and St Johns actually much smaller. For years we have heard about this problem but these teams and perhaps St Pauls have become yo yo teams going between div 1 & 2, is that the fault of the down clubs? NO not enough work is being done and in Glenarriffes case their age old problem of discipline let them down again. If we got rid of the Down clubs the Standard would fall greatly as there would be no meaningful relegation or promotion. this would leave only 3/4 clubs actually trying to improve leaving the rest further behind and Antrim Hurling in a far worse state than it is now.
My own club Ruairi Ogs didn't treat the competition with contemp i can assure you we fought in club all year about our performances, but we have injury's that we haven't had before any many at once hindering our team and as we are constantly told our panel isn't that big or strong. Mc Manus , Elliott, McKillop, Kearney, Scullion, Monty and Shane weren't playing in the league, we were playing kids. No league performances mean no gates mean club in large debt which in Cushendall as all over NA is not acceptable.
The leagues will work but need time and not self intrest for the greater good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 06, 2008, 10:19:07 AM
Quote from: antrimexile on November 06, 2008, 12:32:49 AM


 The Ards teams are good, however, they DO NOT help Antrim hurling!  Do you see Kilkenny being accomodating to say Carlow teams? 
The Ards teams can look to Down or the Ulster league......



Have Kilkenny and others not just accepted Antrim into the Leinster c'ship?  it would be a bit rich for Antrim gaels to be seeking improved competition at intercounty level but turning their back on the ards teams etc?  i think if you ask most hurlers in div 1 they are more than happy to have down teams in the league as they provide good competition and there tends to fewer petty squabbles going on as they are a little but detached geographically.

i agree that the leagues needs to be taken more seriously but ultimately its down the payers and the clubs- the clubs choose the structure of the leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 06, 2008, 10:44:57 AM
Can understand the basic sentiment exile, but not with your suggested solutions
We need more clubs striving towards preparing their teams better throughout all age groups and showing the ambition to want to play in the top divisions. There is no reason with the right focus that the likes of Randlestown/St Endas/Clooney Gaels/St Pauls/GNM can't step out of mediocrity and make another push towards senior hurling, but they need to show that ambition before the change will happen. Until these clubs show they are realdy and actually want Senior hurling then it would be suicide to cast the Down clubs aside (and wouldn't suggest we do that anyway). It relies on individuals within the clubs to implement but I would love to see someone at County Board level showing the right passion for the local game and implore all clubs to aim for the top and not be happy with just keeping the game alive. Sure Antrim hurling will be the better for it.

Oh.....Apologies to the nutjob who writes in green for sniping  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 06, 2008, 11:49:37 AM
I reckon most junior/inter clubs need to get real if they want to progress. This is a 5 to 10 year process of the best coaching available from u12s up and while current league structures can be rejigged they will only create a holding position. Clubs need to value their coaches and encourage their development as well as the players. Agree with Skull that there is a role/roles for someone to be working directly with all clubs to see how they are getting on, advise, encourage etc with Paudie Butleresque enthusiasm and not just let them tumble on with the same old mediocraty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 06, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
Expelling the Down clubs from the Antrim leagues will do nothing to improve the Antrim leagues. It will finish off hurling in Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 06, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
Quotenothing but negative, slanderous and defamatory comments to make about hurling in the county in general

How can you slander or defame hurling?!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimexile on November 06, 2008, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: JamesH on November 06, 2008, 10:05:40 AM
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My own club Ruairi Ogs didn't treat the competition with contemp i can assure you we fought in club all year about our performances, but we have injury's that we haven't had before any many at once hindering our team and as we are constantly told our panel isn't that big or strong. Mc Manus , Elliott, McKillop, Kearney, Scullion, Monty and Shane weren't playing in the league, we were playing kids. No league performances mean no gates mean club in large debt which in Cushendall as all over NA is not acceptable.
The leagues will work but need time and not self intrest for the greater good.

One of my main points is-league games do NOT have the same "intensity" as championship!  Like i said IF the league was so important-can any one name you won the league from say 1980-1999?  ( I am very certain-nobody will be able to, BTW-the league was unfinished on a few times.)
Regarding Cushendall's long injury list: all, I think, were available for every championship game (all 3 games+ 2 in Ulster).  II take your point regarding gate receipts-but why not play the championship off -on a league format?
I feel there needs to be more CHAMPIONSHIP games; games with "intensity". 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 06, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
Championship on a league basis prabably helped the County's gate receipts, but had no noticeably difference to a keenly contested league game (maybe slightly better). Just the way it was. If there was better quality accross the board it may very well improve things, but the chicken can't come before the egg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2008, 06:48:49 PM
a couple of questions:

would it make leagues competitive if there was a two up two down promotion/relegation fight?

would it make leagues more competitive if they were played every week, during a ten week block? (this can be facilitated by either leagues starting in March, first ten weekends hurling, then the following ten weeks football, or winter football leagues)

again would leagues be competitive if the winners were given incentives by the league sponsors be it a cash bonus of weekend away?

would leagues be more competitive if they brought in a handicap system were the elite teams start off minus the average score they normally beat teams with? (all scores available on record for the last few years)

maybe last one is dung but lets hear more improvements.  remember the clubs will be putting motions towrads the county board soon for the following year. i will be putting forward my thoughts to my secretary and county delegates

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on November 06, 2008, 07:12:04 PM
Exile, How can we have more championship games of a greater intensity? By working harder at club level, nothing else, no excuses, no bullshit, just hard work and commitment. It is all to easy to say better games, we apart from half an hour against Glenariffe cruised to a county title, because apart from three clubs none of the others are really trying in Div 1. Yes we do have pride in performances and our players pride themselves to prove themselves at a higher level just like Dunloy and loughgiel before us, we will improve year on year because our club demands it. Are many other clubs thinking that way or mabye just tag onto the lastest trendy excuse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2008, 09:00:22 PM
Championship on a league doesnt work as there's not enough quality teams in the county. We should go with the 8 team leagues for a few years to see how it goes. Division 1 & 2 will be pretty competetive.

Some of Milltown Rows suggestion are good. If their was a prize for winning the league, or even the higher up a league you finish the more money you get( getting a sponsor would be hard though??) this might encourage clubs to take it seriously & battle to the end as their is financial reward.

The two up two down( not the peter kay pop factor band) suggestion isnt bad but i'd imagine clubs would rather have 1 up 1 down.

Dont agree with the 10 week block(first 10 weeks hurling) as clubs want regular hurling during the summer in the build up to the championshipr, not one match 1 Sunday then none for 3/4 weeks.

The handicap system is ridiculous  :D

I wonder will the admins on County site be impressed by this genuine debate & not the slagging that they thinks goes on 24/7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 06, 2008, 10:21:38 PM
two up two do is essential. teams need to be working towards stay or wining the leagues. pointless one up one down, what other league do you know of that has that system? (1 up 1 down)

the footballers have had it for years.

i heard  that the CCC last year were really in favour of 2 up 2 down but would you believe that ballycastle came in with a great idea that would involve dropping 5 teams from division one, ok stay with me, and have a div2/3 league, and wait for it have one team only dropping down. oh and who also voted in favour of this? yes St johns brilliant. talk about looking after yourselves.

anyway i'm being paranoid
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 07, 2008, 08:37:45 AM
I think the 2up 2down would have most imediate effect Milltown, the cash bonus has merit but the big 3 would have first call on it for 2 or 3 years at least. Thinking outside the box stuff on the handicap system, cant see the clubs wearing it though.
I'll def be calling for the 2up 2down from our club anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron on November 07, 2008, 09:32:32 AM
Have just read the Antrim guest book and cant believe the stick this board is getting - as someone who admittedly doesn't post (as I'm not at home anymore and from a Division 3 football club anyway) I have been reading the board for years and 99.9% of it is good honest discussion. In fact I love it cause it keeps me up to date with whats happening in the county. Its seriously worrying that the County is so paranoid and aggressive on its own site - that cant be healthy. Vaguely remember the posts that they refer to but that was an isolated case. I see Milltown had a go back and got an essay in reply. You'd really have to wonder...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 07, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Aaron Graffin is a class act. Shane McNaughton maybe grabbed the headlines at the end of the year, but Graffin has been so consistent ever since he came onto the scene 3 years ago. Well deserved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 07, 2008, 11:00:45 AM
Quote from: the colonel on November 07, 2008, 10:57:53 AM
From www.northantrimgaa.com

Aaron picks up his first award of this hurling career.
Ruairi Ogs young star Aaron Graffin is this years Hurler of the Year. Aaron rounded of a great first year in the County senior team seeing of some big names with his third Antrim and Ulster medals at only twenty years of age.
Aaron teamate Shane mc Naughton came runner up adding to the Ulster Merit award for October he recieved last week in the Hilgrove Hotel.
Shamrocks star forward Liam Watson came into third place after some great displays, including the Feis cup final win against Dunloy.

Junior Hurler of the Year was a joint award with All Saints  young star Liam Cassley sharing the award with Kickhams duel star Thomas Mc Cann.
The winners will recieve their awards at next weeks North Antrim Dinner in the Glens Hotel Cushendall


forgot it was only senior and junior awards               

He has played for the County for the last 2 years has he not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 07, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
Very very well deserved from Graffin. From the outside I agree with all that you have said Colonel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 07, 2008, 02:39:52 PM
very good hurler, slightly made up but very strong and skillfull. him and delargy have been excellent for both Antrim and their club this year.

waiting on my award this year, lost out to Harry Hill last year :P

(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=2&i=IMG%5F6111%2Ejpg&cright=%C2%A9%20John%20McIlwaine)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 07, 2008, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 07, 2008, 02:39:52 PM
very good hurler, slightly made up but very strong and skillfull. him and delargy have been excellent for both Antrim and their club this year.

waiting on my award this year, lost out to Harry Hill last year :P

(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=2&i=IMG%5F6111%2Ejpg&cright=%C2%A9%20John%20McIlwaine)

Is that 'Frank' McCaffrey by any chance? It's been a while since I've seen him last but I certainly does look like him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 07, 2008, 03:12:10 PM
is alright. voted reserve hurler of the year 2007. classic photo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 09, 2008, 07:15:02 PM
who won the Gort-na-mona game against Carrickmore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 10, 2008, 07:45:33 AM
From Antrim Website.....

Gorts "Finally" Make It - Gort naMona 1.14 Eire Og 1.10

After all the controversy surrounding this fixture, Gort naMona finally settled matters once and for all with a gutsy performance in Ballinascreen today.

They now at last get to play in the Ulster Inrermediate hurling final, having had to beat Eire Og for the second time.

Playing with a strong breeze in the first half, Gort naMona looked like they were going to struggle after Eire Og kept in touch and bagged an early goal. Sean Kelly and Nipper Quinn were reliable from placed balls throughout the match and always managed to keep the Gort's in front.

A second half goal finally put daylight between the teams and Gort naMona were able to keep a safe distance from the Carrickmore challenge and progress to the Intermediate final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 13, 2008, 06:41:58 PM
Jeez, lads,

nearly slipped off the front page there - couldn't be having that!!

So Laois up first to take our Walsh Cup away from us?? Anyone? Anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 13, 2008, 07:11:31 PM
Hopefully we will not have blown our load by the end of january this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
would like to know if any new players have made themselves available for the senior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 13, 2008, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
would like to know if any new players have made themselves available for the senior team.
Its really none of your business Milltown and we will not tolerate this sort of gossip shop innuendo. Perhaps you should take yourself off to other sites that encourage and facilitate this sort of bar room gossip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 07:26:40 PM
this antrim website is a disgrace, everytime you come on with a point of view its rubbished by paid members asking. "what have you ever done for your club/county?" Loads ya bollocks :P

don't think i'll get those county finals next year ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the green man on November 13, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 07:26:40 PM
this antrim website is a disgrace,

I had a quick skim through it there. There's a lot of anger problems need sorted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on November 14, 2008, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 13, 2008, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
would like to know if any new players have made themselves available for the senior team.
Its really none of your business Milltown and we will not tolerate this sort of gossip shop innuendo. Perhaps you should take yourself off to other sites that encourage and facilitate this sort of bar room gossip.

pmsl-where have i read that sorta thing before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on November 14, 2008, 09:47:45 AM
 just read North Antrim site re divide, have to say if their ever was a shit stirrer that was it. The admin pulled no punches either hope he doesn't go say way as you know who.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2008, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on November 14, 2008, 08:54:33 AM
pmsl-where have i read that sorta thing before?

mmmmmmmm?
Minder = Someone who looks after you
Someone who looks after you = a doctor

Minder  :o :o :o

:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 14, 2008, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 14, 2008, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: themanwhowasntthere on November 14, 2008, 08:54:33 AM
pmsl-where have i read that sorta thing before?

mmmmmmmm?
Minder = Someone who looks after you
Someone who looks after you = a doctor

Minder  :o :o :o

:)


(http://www.waterfootprint.org/images/gallery/original/apple.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2008, 03:34:15 PM
Indeedin it does
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 14, 2008, 11:40:14 PM
fair play to him, the county tried and he's not interested. there's no doubting his ability. fantastic player but life goes on. noticed Brendan Herron has come back. great player under Dinny. hope he comes back to the same form. thats what we are missing height and strength
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on November 15, 2008, 12:12:58 AM
Have to agree with the watson fella standing up for what he belives in also aswell fair play to the guy earning an extra few bob on the side . It not as if the county would pay you week in week out . Credit crunch  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 15, 2008, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on November 15, 2008, 12:12:58 AM
Have to agree with the watson fella standing up for what he belives in also aswell fair play to the guy earning an extra few bob on the side . It not as if the county would pay you week in week out . Credit crunch  ;D

Yeah yeah yeah.

In my opinion the best hurler in Antrim, but if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play. Time to move on . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2008, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 15, 2008, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on November 15, 2008, 12:12:58 AM
Have to agree with the watson fella standing up for what he belives in also aswell fair play to the guy earning an extra few bob on the side . It not as if the county would pay you week in week out . Credit crunch  ;D

Yeah yeah yeah.

In my opinion the best hurler in Antrim, but if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play. Time to move on . . . .

Exactly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
Why did they ask him back though if they knew he is still playing a garrison game? The most notable aspect of that article is that the joint Antrim manager was referred to as Terence Mc Naughton and not "Sambo".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING/CAMOGIE
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 16, 2008, 03:57:52 PM
Congratulations to Rossa on their win...fantastic result for them. Well done

Rossa claim All-Ireland triumph

Belfast club Rossa claimed their first All-Ireland Senior Club Camogie title when they defeated Tipperary club Drom & Inch 2-15 to 1-12 in Sunday's final.

Rossa were spearheaded by Jane Adams, who hit an amazing 2-9 in Sunday's decider at Ashbourne.

Adams picked up Antrim's first ever camogie All Star last weekend.

Adams hit 2-11 in Rossa's 3-18 to 0-6 semi-final hammering of Dublin outfit Ballyboden St Enda's.

Drom & Inch: R Kennelly; C Kennedy, N Harkin, P McGrath; S O'Meara, M Shortt, T Butler; T Shortt, N Harrington: J Ryan, M Looby, G Kinane; C Shortt, E Shanahan, S McGrath

O'Donovan Rossa: T McGowan; T Adams, P Green, M Quinn; A McCall, N McGuinness, B Orchin; C Doherty, S Daykin; K O'Neill, G Connolly, O McCall; M McGourty, J Adams, M Stewart
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on November 16, 2008, 08:49:27 PM
Well done Rossa a great boost for camogie in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2008, 09:02:59 PM
Maybe I'm reading into something where there's nothing but I don't see Watson say anything about Woody - maybe he has a problem with him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
How many managers would have half the team out on the beer in their bar ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 11:00:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
How many managers would have half the team out on the beer in their bar ?

it would not have been the bot minder on a friday night ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2008, 11:02:09 PM
You dont miss much Milltown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2008, 11:05:22 PM
bit old for you minder, i mean the BOT!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
It wasnt my decision ! As usual Tosh left his wallet in the house.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 17, 2008, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
It wasnt my decision ! As usual Tosh left his wallet in the house.

I hope he hasn't cashed those cheques from Down yet, assuming you're talking about johnny!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on November 17, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
Serious allegations about Loughguile minors on the Derry thread- I was alwys of the opinion that Loughguile was a proud hurling club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 17, 2008, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
It wasnt my decision ! As usual Tosh left his wallet in the house.

I hope he hasn't cashed those cheques from Down yet, assuming you're talking about johnny!

Aye i am,If he had of been paid in cash it would have went into a wee tin with his communion & confirmation money
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 17, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
Serious allegations about Loughguile minors on the Derry thread- I was alwys of the opinion that Loughguile was a proud hurling club.

What are the allegations? That all the players arrived to the game in a tractor and linkbox?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:00:11 PM
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I was at the Minor Hurling game and I have to say it def wasnt a dirty game but the Antrim lads lost the plot in the injury time when they knew they were beat. they had 3 lads sent of and were starting fights all over the pitch near the end, (which their supporters were encouraging by cheering them and telling lads to "get f**king in there and sort them c***ts out". A screen lad also got the line and deserved it for striking but in his defence it was for hitting back at 2 of the antrim lads who both attacked him at once during a scuffle but striking is striking so no complaints.

A couple of Screen lads did get badly split and there was alot of off the ball pulling in the final moments including our Full back getting pulled across the chest on our 14 when we were actually attacking their goal with the ball about their 45. While our full back was down injured the Full forward started on 1 of the corner backs who was about half his size and when play stopped at the other end the Antrim players and subs all sprinted the length of the field to try and get involved in what had basically been Handbags.  The louhguile supporters were not helpful as everytime one of their players pulled a late stroke or pulled on a man of the ball he was widely cheered and encouraged to do so again. Every time there was a scuffle they were up of their seats and a small number of yo-cals kept approaching the pitch fence only having to be told to return to their seats about 3/4 times in last 10 minutes of additional time. 

There was a bit of a scuffle after the game started by the Louhguile No. 20 doing a flying kung-f* type kick into the Screen corner backs chest when the screen man actually approached him with his hand out to shake hands as he was leaving the pitch. He then proceeded to stamp on him on the ground this brought a very sickening large cheer from their supporters and like a nice brave boy he then ran off and proceeded to Kung-f* kick the Screen manager in the middle of the back when he was shaking hands with their manager, and knocked the Screen manager to the ground. Again this brought a very large cheer from their supporters. Both these incidents happened right in front of me, and I mean I wasnt even 10 yards away.

At this point the Louhguile supporters all started to try and enter the field to fight with the Screen players and management, but thankfully the stewarts managed to get all the Screen players off the pitch and down the tunnel thus protecting them, from grown men, and strangely women also, who were trying to attack them.

No screen players were involved in the after match scuffle and the management were only involved in trying to restore order as stewarts quickly surrounded them as some supporters scaled the fence.

With the Screen players now of the field the Supporters that had made it on to the field and the louhguile players were trying to attack the Screen management and anyone else they could get their hands on but thankfully their were plenty of stewarts and a few calm heads on the louhguile side also, which diffused the situation quickly before it could escalate.

I have to say I have never seen supporters so wound up and so filled with hatred. Some of the stuff they were shouting at the ref at the screen lads was some of the most abusive I have ever heard and the instructions being shouted at their own players like "do that wee f**ker" "take him out" and "take his F**king hand off were a total disgrace.  I know Louhguile have a reputation for this type of thing but I honestly couldnt believe how vile and hate filled their supporters were it was the type of reaction youd get breaking into 'the fields of Athenry' in at Ibrox as Barry Ferguson was about to hit a penalty.

The game was a good game and def wasnt dirty, it was a tough Ulster SF between 2 pretty even teams going flat out to reach the Final. The Louhguile players had played well but couldnt score from play and found themselves  3 points down with normal time up and thats when they began to show a very ugly side to their game. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on November 17, 2008, 12:12:08 PM
Jesus, that minor match sounds like a mad one alrite.  Any loughguile people there to confirm or deny this report?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 17, 2008, 12:42:40 PM
Shamrock?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on November 17, 2008, 01:31:45 PM
That match sounds like the rossa v loughgile minor semi final replay up in dunloy a brave few years ago - would it be as much as 10 years ago?

Anyway, there was murder that night and the loughgile supporters came over the fence.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 17, 2008, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 17, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 17, 2008, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
It wasnt my decision ! As usual Tosh left his wallet in the house.

I hope he hasn't cashed those cheques from Down yet, assuming you're talking about johnny!

Aye i am,If he had of been paid in cash it would have went into a wee tin with his communion & confirmation money

Sure jingo will make sure he's enough soup and sandwiches to tide him over during the recession.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 17, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
Good to see loughgiel sticking to their proud tradition of the recent past, when are they ever going to learn. This was one of the best minor teams to come out of the county in a while and wha do they do, give them the loughgiel traits of 'get stuck into them'. Have they not copped on by now that this is going to win them nothing.

Maybe its best that they dont learn it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
Ah but sure they will be able to sit outside the Pound in their Twin Cams talking about giving boys a "hemmerin"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 17, 2008, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 14, 2008, 08:38:10 PM
Watson rejects Antrim overtures 


"I have no problems with Sambo, Jim Nelson or the Antrim team," said Watson.

"But until there is a change to management, I will not be turning out for the county.



I think the problem is with Woody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: Shrek on November 17, 2008, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 17, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
Ah but sure they will be able to sit outside the Pound in their Twin Cams talking about giving boys a "hemmerin"

have you ever posted anything constructive or even worth reading on this site Minder.

as Skull has said a few times before - people in glass houses etc etc

No i havent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on November 17, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
Slagging off Twin Cams is always going to get a reaction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
it surprises me how many Antrim teams fail at this competition, we were beat by Dungiven in the final a few years ago after a replay and extra time. madness!! (was very drunk that day, bad idea opening the bar during the game)

makes you wonder at the talent available to derry and down teams and armagh teams at minor level, only to get lost to FOOTBALL >:( >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 17, 2008, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
it surprises me how many Antrim teams fail at this competition, we were beat by Dungiven in the final a few years ago after a replay and extra time. madness!! (was very drunk that day, bad idea opening the bar during the game)

makes you wonder at the talent available to derry and down teams and armagh teams at minor level, only to get lost to FOOTBALL >:( >:(

Has an Antrim team ever won this competition?!?!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 17, 2008, 06:31:54 PM
St Johns won it 4 or 5 years ago, the only Antrim team to do so. It's always played about 2 months after the minor championships are finsihed on mucky pitch which to be truthful doesnt suit the Antrim champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2008, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: Glensman on November 17, 2008, 12:42:40 PM
Shamrock?

Shamrock hasn't been back since before you know when.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 17, 2008, 06:31:54 PM
St Johns won it 4 or 5 years ago, the only Antrim team to do so. It's always played about 2 months after the minor championships are finsihed on mucky pitch which to be truthful doesnt suit the Antrim champions

thats balls both teams have to play on the pitch. the standard at that level is outstanding. the other counties at club minor level is better than ours, this is shown by the amount of times we have won it.  ONCE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on November 17, 2008, 08:14:31 PM
IMHO, ITs to do with the sytle of antrim hurling. Which can be easily undone by the more physical and fitter teams in ulster. The mangers should seek more games outside antrim. Two hans mentions, its normally a few months between minor championship and the ulster's, so a few challange games should be arranged to get the players and managers suited to the tactics they will need to use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: youngfella on November 17, 2008, 08:14:31 PM
IMHO, ITs to do with the sytle of antrim hurling. Which can be easily undone by the more physical and fitter teams in ulster. The mangers should seek more games outside antrim. Two hans mentions, its normally a few months between minor championship and the ulster's, so a few challange games should be arranged to get the players and managers suited to the tactics they will need to use.

the same for the other county champions. when we played Dungiven we were beaten by a really good team. i thought our team would have tanked them. drew the first game and were under no illusions about the second game, and still came up short after extra time

our style of antrim hurling has made the Ulster championship as on-sided as Kilkennys wining Leinster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2008, 09:23:35 PM
From Official Antrim Website


Name : The 'Real Assessor'17 November 2008

Hi Admin

That notorious ???? is again providing a forum for those who wish to take cheap pot shots at our county. ???

That's all it's for. Ignoring them seems to be the only solution.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on November 17, 2008, 10:17:34 PM
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I was at the Minor Hurling game and I have to say it def wasn't a dirty game but the Antrim lads lost the plot in the injury time when they knew they were beat. they had 3 lads sent of and were starting fights all over the pitch near the end, (which their supporters were encouraging by cheering them and telling lads to "get f**king in there and sort them c***ts out". A screen lad also got the line and deserved it for striking but in his defence it was for hitting back at 2 of the antrim lads who both attacked him at once during a scuffle but striking is striking so no complaints.

A couple of Screen lads did get badly split and there was alot of off the ball pulling in the final moments including our Full back getting pulled across the chest on our 14 when we were actually attacking their goal with the ball about their 45. While our full back was down injured the Full forward started on 1 of the corner backs who was about half his size and when play stopped at the other end the Antrim players and subs all sprinted the length of the field to try and get involved in what had basically been Handbags.  The louhguile supporters were not helpful as everytime one of their players pulled a late stroke or pulled on a man of the ball he was widely cheered and encouraged to do so again. Every time there was a scuffle they were up of their seats and a small number of yo-cals kept approaching the pitch fence only having to be told to return to their seats about 3/4 times in last 10 minutes of additional time. 

There was a bit of a scuffle after the game started by the Louhguile No. 20 doing a flying kung-f* type kick into the Screen corner backs chest when the screen man actually approached him with his hand out to shake hands as he was leaving the pitch. He then proceeded to stamp on him on the ground this brought a very sickening large cheer from their supporters and like a nice brave boy he then ran off and proceeded to Kung-f* kick the Screen manager in the middle of the back when he was shaking hands with their manager, and knocked the Screen manager to the ground. Again this brought a very large cheer from their supporters. Both these incidents happened right in front of me, and I mean I wasn't even 10 yards away.

At this point the Louhguile supporters all started to try and enter the field to fight with the Screen players and management, but thankfully the stewarts managed to get all the Screen players off the pitch and down the tunnel thus protecting them, from grown men, and strangely women also, who were trying to attack them.

No screen players were involved in the after match scuffle and the management were only involved in trying to restore order as stewarts quickly surrounded them as some supporters scaled the fence.

With the Screen players now of the field the Supporters that had made it on to the field and the louhguile players were trying to attack the Screen management and anyone else they could get their hands on but thankfully their were plenty of stewarts and a few calm heads on the louhguile side also, which diffused the situation quickly before it could escalate.

I have to say I have never seen supporters so wound up and so filled with hatred. Some of the stuff they were shouting at the ref at the screen lads was some of the most abusive I have ever heard and the instructions being shouted at their own players like "do that wee f**ker" "take him out" and "take his F**king hand off were a total disgrace.  I know Louhguile have a reputation for this type of thing but I honestly couldnt believe how vile and hate filled their supporters were it was the type of reaction youd get breaking into 'the fields of Athenry' in at Ibrox as Barry Ferguson was about to hit a penalty.

The game was a good game and def wasnt dirty, it was a tough Ulster SF between 2 pretty even teams going flat out to reach the Final. The Louhguile players had played well but couldnt score from play and found themselves  3 points down with normal time up and thats when they began to show a very ugly side to their game. 


Was up at minor match and yes while it was loughgiel not being able to take their beating, things certainly didn't go as your Derry man has quoted.  Number 20 did "Kung-f* Kick" him but not as screen boy tried to shake his hand, he was up cheering in his face.  As for th manager, he had reportedly grabbed and twisted number 20's stones.  He then came into 20s face and I'm not sure who hit who first.  This then just turned into a brawl, with around 200 people on the pitch, from both sides.  The stewards then ushered the screen boys into changing room but the same manager then started cheering with his stick in the air to the loughgiel players.  This started a reaction from a certain somebody who hit him.  the screen players came out of the changing rooms and everybody started brawiling again, Both sets of teams and fans.
And as for supporters shouting at the screen players, naw.  their were a few scream from eejits yes, but their mentor, who was put outside the wire was shouting "take the hands off the c**nts".  the brawl during the match was started by the screen player who head butted the l'giel full back, they then went at it and everybody joined in.  How he could send off anybody else apart from those 2 during that was ridiculous.  Playing 16 mins of extra time didn't help the heated situation either.  both fans were involved.
in saying that the loughgiel captain did enter the screen changing room afterwards, as did the manager of screen enter the loughgiel changing room.
Screen deserved the win but theres two sides to every story ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 17, 2008, 10:27:20 PM
Milltown Row, what I was trying to say that as its normally played in November/ December & it's always very physical & thats where the Antrim clubs have always suffered & especially county teams as we cant deal with the physical aspect. When is the Ulster Championship played...during the summer.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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I was at the Minor Hurling game and I have to say it def wasn't a dirty game but the Antrim lads lost the plot in the injury time when they knew they were beat. they had 3 lads sent of and were starting fights all over the pitch near the end, (which their supporters were encouraging by cheering them and telling lads to "get f**king in there and sort them c***ts out". A screen lad also got the line and deserved it for striking but in his defence it was for hitting back at 2 of the antrim lads who both attacked him at once during a scuffle but striking is striking so no complaints.

A couple of Screen lads did get badly split and there was alot of off the ball pulling in the final moments including our Full back getting pulled across the chest on our 14 when we were actually attacking their goal with the ball about their 45. While our full back was down injured the Full forward started on 1 of the corner backs who was about half his size and when play stopped at the other end the Antrim players and subs all sprinted the length of the field to try and get involved in what had basically been Handbags.  The louhguile supporters were not helpful as everytime one of their players pulled a late stroke or pulled on a man of the ball he was widely cheered and encouraged to do so again. Every time there was a scuffle they were up of their seats and a small number of yo-cals kept approaching the pitch fence only having to be told to return to their seats about 3/4 times in last 10 minutes of additional time. 

There was a bit of a scuffle after the game started by the Louhguile No. 20 doing a flying kung-f* type kick into the Screen corner backs chest when the screen man actually approached him with his hand out to shake hands as he was leaving the pitch. He then proceeded to stamp on him on the ground this brought a very sickening large cheer from their supporters and like a nice brave boy he then ran off and proceeded to Kung-f* kick the Screen manager in the middle of the back when he was shaking hands with their manager, and knocked the Screen manager to the ground. Again this brought a very large cheer from their supporters. Both these incidents happened right in front of me, and I mean I wasn't even 10 yards away.

At this point the Louhguile supporters all started to try and enter the field to fight with the Screen players and management, but thankfully the stewarts managed to get all the Screen players off the pitch and down the tunnel thus protecting them, from grown men, and strangely women also, who were trying to attack them.

No screen players were involved in the after match scuffle and the management were only involved in trying to restore order as stewarts quickly surrounded them as some supporters scaled the fence.

With the Screen players now of the field the Supporters that had made it on to the field and the louhguile players were trying to attack the Screen management and anyone else they could get their hands on but thankfully their were plenty of stewarts and a few calm heads on the louhguile side also, which diffused the situation quickly before it could escalate.

I have to say I have never seen supporters so wound up and so filled with hatred. Some of the stuff they were shouting at the ref at the screen lads was some of the most abusive I have ever heard and the instructions being shouted at their own players like "do that wee f**ker" "take him out" and "take his F**king hand off were a total disgrace.  I know Louhguile have a reputation for this type of thing but I honestly couldnt believe how vile and hate filled their supporters were it was the type of reaction youd get breaking into 'the fields of Athenry' in at Ibrox as Barry Ferguson was about to hit a penalty.

The game was a good game and def wasnt dirty, it was a tough Ulster SF between 2 pretty even teams going flat out to reach the Final. The Louhguile players had played well but couldnt score from play and found themselves  3 points down with normal time up and thats when they began to show a very ugly side to their game. 


Was up at minor match and yes while it was loughgiel not being able to take their beating, This was the problem both your supporters and players couldnt take youir beating things certainly didn't go as your Derry man has quoted.  Number 20 did "Kung-f* Kick" him but not as screen boy tried to shake his hand, he was up cheering in his face.  This was straight in front of me and your no 20 kicked him as he put his hand out at end of game FACT he also stamped on him on the ground afterwards

As for th manager, he had reportedly grabbed and twisted number 20's stones.  He then came into 20s face and I'm not sure who hit who first. This is just LIES plain and simple, as again this was straight in front of me and no 20 Kung-f* kicked the manager in the middle of the back and ran off into the crowd so the manager wouldnt even have had the chance to grab him by the nutts.

This then just turned into a brawl, with around 200 Including the Stewarts and the loughguile team there wouldnt have been 200 on the pitch

people on the pitch, from both sides.  The stewards then ushered the screen boys into changing room True  

but the same manager then started cheering with his stick in the air to the loughgiel players. This is again NOT TRUE as the manager was being attacked and kicked on the ground (after the brave no. 20s attack) by loughguile players and supporters and was then pulled out by stewarts and had to be ushered away as your supporters tryed to get at him all the way.

This started a reaction from a certain somebody who hit him. (read the previous bit) 

the screen players came out of the changing rooms and everybody started brawiling again, This is TOTAL BULLSH*T. I was at the tunnel and  the screen players were taken down the tunnel straight after the match and did not return as stewarts and senior players filled the tunnel to protect them from the supporters who were trying to get down the tunnel to fight.  

Both sets of teams and fans. Again this is Lies as it was Loughguile Supporters who invaded the pitch. there were a few slaps thrown on the screen side also but that was because you savages were fighting and hitting anyone yous could get at including Stewarts, mentors and tournament organisers and its hard to sort this out without using force.

And as for supporters shouting at the screen players, naw. This abuse started during second half and continued and got worse right up until the end   their were a few  :Dscream from eejits yes, It was the majority of your supporters who were screaming abuse and your biggest cheer went up when no.20 kicked and then stamped on our corner back and then kicked the manager in the back

but their mentor, who was put outside the wire was shouting "take the hands off the c**nts". Again Lies as the manager, Taz, was in front of me when he was asked to leave and it was for shouting (less than politely) at the ref for not blowing 1 of your teams many blatant pulls of the ball at no time did he encourage any screen players to hit a Loughguile player.  

the brawl during the match was started by the screen player who head butted the l'giel full back, they then went at it and everybody joined in. Which brawl are you talking about? Once your team realised they were beat they were trying to start brawls all over the pitch.  No screen player headbutted at any time so again you are just lying.  But I did see a loughguile player Headbutt then punch and kick a screen player on the ground, I also seen one of your men pull on our full back a couple of times on the ground and he has the marks on his back to prove it.

How he could send off anybody else apart from those 2 during that was ridiculous. I agree, We had 1 man sent of and Yous had 3 men sent of in the game and all were well deserved, however he could easily have sent of 2/3 more of your men for some of the shit they were at like pulling on men of the ball, pulling on men on the ground and your entire sub bench and back line sprinted the length of the pitch to try and start a fight when all the 2 lads were at was a bit of shoving, a complete disgrace.  

Playing 16 mins of extra time didn't help the heated situation either. I agree 

both fans were involved. Your fans tried to attack players who by the way all are U18 and plenty are u16, Our Stewarts had to try and protect the players and managers and get you savages of the pitch  

in saying that the loughgiel captain did enter the screen changing room afterwards, as did the manager of screen enter the loughgiel changing room. This was a good thing, sorted by the tournament organiser to try and diffuse the situation after the match as the loughguile supporters were all waiting about in the car park after the game (I wonder why) and things were very tense

Screen deserved the win but theres two sides to every story ;) There is no doubt Screen deserved to win as yous never scored from play in the whole game. It was actually a very good and very hard fought game and it wasnt a dirty game, your team just lost the plot and couldnt take their beating near the end

Also I appreciate that there are 2 sides to every story and I can understand you wanting to try and take the heat of your club who have a reputation for this kind of stuff. I can even understand you trying to shift the blame for the disgraceful way your players and supporters behaved on Sunday but some of the stuff you have posted is just lies plain and simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2008, 10:07:05 AM
If it moves hit it
If it doesnt hit it anyway!!


Are you from Lougeile Billy?
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on November 18, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 18, 2008, 10:07:05 AM
If it moves hit it
If it doesnt hit it anyway!!


Are you from Lougeile Billy?
;D

I dont think so JC but I thought I would take the following very scientific and full proof test just to prove it.




Answer the following Questions

SECTION 1

Can you talk properly?                                                    YES

Can you accept it when your are beat by a better team?    YES

(If you have answered yes to any of the first 2 questions you are not from Loughguile!! If you have Answered No to both you may proceed to the second section of the Test)


SECTION 2

Have you ever tried to jump the wire and hit underage players because they beat your team?  NO

Do you pull on the man more than you pull on the ball during a game?                                   NO

Do You have a twin Cam?                                                                                                 NO

Have you ever asked your cousin to marry you?                                                                     NO

Do you know Kung - FU?                                                                                                     NO

You most answer Yes to at least 4 of the 5 Questions In section 2 to be from Loughguile.

;) :D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2008, 10:36:24 AM
Billy that fella mr t is not from Loughgiel, just so you know it's not an "us against them"...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on November 18, 2008, 10:51:26 AM
Whereever he is from that post is full of things that are not true and can only be described as lies. I was at the game standing at the fence in front of the tunnel so all this stuff happened yards from me. The account I gave is as accurate as It possibly could be. I accept that there were slaps thrown on both sides to say otherwise would be ridiculous, but what would you expect When their supporters and players are attacking Stewarts, management and trying to get at underage players?

No. 20 should be ashamed of himself as his kicking and stamping is as bad a thing as I have ever seen at any game never mind an underage game and this is what lit sparked their supporters into life.

I had heard bad stories about them before but this was crazy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on November 18, 2008, 01:12:53 PM
billy just to make it clear im not defending no.20.  It was stupid and cowardly.  You were closer to the pitch, maybe you saw things differntly.
Neither am i sayin all fighting was done by screen, that is totally wrong, but there were a certain number of screen supporters and their players were fighting, as were all of loughgiels players and some supporters.  im not trying to defend loughgiel, they were totally in the wrong.  just giving my account as i saw it from the stands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 18, 2008, 01:44:20 PM
Should the question not be, why is this happening with loughgiel being involved again?

Is there something wrong within the club that this lack of discipline rears its head all to often?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on November 18, 2008, 01:55:03 PM
I Dont know NAG whats wrong, buts that was a small section of the fans that let us down at the weekend, probably the same ones that are always at something at matches.  We'll have to see what county do, because i imagine they will have to do something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on November 18, 2008, 02:10:21 PM
Mr T, Im honestly not getting at you or the loughgiel club in general, but you would have to admit yourself that there has been loads of talent through that club in the last twenty years and have achieved nothing on the main scene ie Senior Level.

My thought on it is that, as soon as something starts to go wrong that the players just return to type and 'hit anything that moves' kind of attitude. I dont know if this is being coached into them or what but it does seem strange that different groups under different managements have ended up with this kind of record.

any ideas what it is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2008, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: MrT on November 18, 2008, 01:55:03 PM
I Dont know NAG whats wrong, buts that was a small section of the fans that let us down at the weekend, probably the same ones that are always at something at matches.  We'll have to see what county do, because i imagine they will have to do something.



That tournament used to be run by Ballinascreen but sanctioned by the Ulster council and with all the games still played in Ballinascreen i'd assume that's still the case. Ultimately then the Ulster council are still responsible for any actions metered out to both clubs but i suppose a lot will depend on the referee's report and ref's aren't inclined to report a lot of the 'post game' activities.

As for that minor tournament itself, it's a good tournament and hopefully it won't be ruined by moronic adults. The pitch at screen is always fairly heavy going at this time of year which lends itself more to a 'mollocker' than the light hurlers. Our lads won it maybe 6 or 7 years ago and we'd a fairly big team who could handle the gutters, beating winkers Loughgeile and the hinphey's dungiven along the way and that was with big Magic doing goals as he'd never played outfield until a year later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 18, 2008, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on November 18, 2008, 02:10:21 PM
Mr T, Im honestly not getting at you or the loughgiel club in general, but you would have to admit yourself that there has been loads of talent through that club in the last twenty years and have achieved nothing on the main scene ie Senior Level.

My thought on it is that, as soon as something starts to go wrong that the players just return to type and 'hit anything that moves' kind of attitude. I dont know if this is being coached into them or what but it does seem strange that different groups under different managements have ended up with this kind of record.

any ideas what it is?

NAG, would assume Mr T is a Gorts man from some of his previous posts. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2008, 04:14:18 PM
That's what I thought.

My comment to Billy was not about what has or hasn't happened. I simply assumed Mr T maybe had a more objective viewpoint...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on November 18, 2008, 05:22:24 PM
Quote from: NAG on November 18, 2008, 02:10:21 PM
Mr T, Im honestly not getting at you or the loughgiel club in general, but you would have to admit yourself that there has been loads of talent through that club in the last twenty years and have achieved nothing on the main scene ie Senior Level.

My thought on it is that, as soon as something starts to go wrong that the players just return to type and 'hit anything that moves' kind of attitude. I dont know if this is being coached into them or what but it does seem strange that different groups under different managements have ended up with this kind of record.

any ideas what it is?

Naw lads, am from loughgiel :)
dont worry NAG am not sayn you are.
yes we have had very talented hurlers right through underage, but as you say we cant keep that talent running through to the big time.
I have no doubt that loughgiel on sunday just could not take the fact they were the 2nd best team, but i can tell you, dirtyness is not drilled into them, especialy from that set of mentors.
Maybe at that age they are tryn to show their "tightness" but they are not told to do that.  I know that for a fact.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:06:41 PM
I was confused also "lads"  but there is two MrT's on this board, one spelt MrT and the other Mr_T
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 18, 2008, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 18, 2008, 07:06:41 PM
I was confused also "lads"  but there is two MrT's on this board, one spelt MrT and the other Mr_T

Teachin' fools some basic rules!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 18, 2008, 11:46:22 PM
I watched the Ballinascreen u14 team 4 years ago win the Ulster Feile Div 1 title easily against C'dall and they were a really good team. They have obviously worked hard since then so not surprised to hear that they beat Loughgiel in this years minor grade. Pity L'giel unable to take defeat graciously considering the comments from people at it who said that it wasn't actually a controversial or dirty game and only got out of hand in injury time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 20, 2008, 01:26:30 PM
QuotePity L'giel unable to take defeat graciously considering

Loughgiel in ungracious defeat shocker! Maybe the juvenile players aren't as used to it as the seniors yet. Give them time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on November 20, 2008, 03:47:20 PM
Just hearing all the stories from the minor match, it seems that it was as bad as everyone says. You don't mess with the Derry men and expect to get away with it. The no20 everyone  is talking about would be a hefty brother of loughgiels county centre half back. Another player already on a suspension entered the field along with his rocket father and got involved( a clue, Duffy's circus gave him two yellows in last years minor final and let him stay on, and he then got a straight red in the replay. nice fellow) It will be intresting to see if Decky Magee seen anything worth reporting. They should get a grip it is only a tournament after all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 20, 2008, 06:13:13 PM
Anyone know what kind of turnout was at Creggan last night?
Any new faces, such as boys who went to the trials?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on November 20, 2008, 07:02:12 PM
For what? surely not county collective training in a gym.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
I think it was meant to be for the Antrim gfootball thread, Abtrim footballers had a trial last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 21, 2008, 02:45:17 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
I think it was meant to be for the Antrim gfootball thread, Abtrim footballers had a trial last night.

Small group of lads who just happened to be in the same hall at the same time who all forgot their hurls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on November 21, 2008, 03:34:42 PM
I heard there was a training session in Creggan's hall on Wednesday night and I was wondering what kind of turn-out was there and any new faces.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2008, 07:31:29 PM
what did McGarry do to win that???

anyway, heard that Ciaran McGourty may be turning out with the senior hurlers this year, and Conor John may also be there. unconfirmed though. ya heard it here first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
disagree, but sure he's had plenty of practice in looking good ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 23, 2008, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: the colonel on November 23, 2008, 12:45:57 AM
you obviously would be advocating a club mate MR?

dont we all here on this Fourm?? but if i take off the blue tinted glasses Karl has been the most consistent performer for Antrim. i'd been to all the home games and the Dublin match so i can say this with knowledge of watching and judging the games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2008, 09:39:02 AM
I hear CC Connolly from Loughguile died last night, not suspicious as they say. I dont think he has hurled for them the last couple of years. RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2008, 10:15:44 AM
Gees - is that fella not very young? Round the 30 mark?

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2008, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 24, 2008, 10:15:44 AM
Gees - is that fella not very young? Round the 30 mark?

RIP

Aye i would think he was 29/30.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on November 24, 2008, 10:23:25 AM
QuoteGees - is that fella not very young? Round the 30 mark?

If it's the CC I know of, he's not old at all!  But I don't know the people down there that well at all so I'll wait for someone else to clarify!

Terrible news if it's true - RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 24, 2008, 10:37:46 AM
R.I.P.   CC

My Sympathies go out to his family, friends & the Loughgiel Shamrocks club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on November 24, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: sail_in on November 24, 2008, 10:23:25 AM
QuoteGees - is that fella not very young? Round the 30 mark?

If it's the CC I know of, he's not old at all!  But I don't know the people down there that well at all so I'll wait for someone else to clarify!

Terrible news if it's true - RIP.

Yea sail in, Your thinking of the right one.
RIP CC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 24, 2008, 11:32:18 AM
R.I.P CC

CC was a lovely fella, who although didn't hurl for the last couple of years but in alot of coaching for Loughgiel,

sympathies to his family, friends and members of Loughgiel Shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 24, 2008, 11:42:51 AM
I assume this is Ciaran 'CC' Connolly? Very sad if it is - was a couple of years below me in school so would be around the 30 mark. Was a really nice fella too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2008, 11:49:15 AM
As others have said. CC was a really sound fella. He'll be a great loss to his family, friends and his club. RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 24, 2008, 11:51:08 AM
Very sad to hear, crossed swords a few times and throughly decent lad

young man too, would have thought 29/30, sympathies to his family friends and entire loughgiel club

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on November 24, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
RIP C.C

A great hurler who will be sadly missed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 24, 2008, 02:27:52 PM
Just after dropping off C.C. Connollys brother at O Hare airport in Chicago. The man is just past himself understandably. Maurice, CC's youngest brother is heavily involved in the GAA out here. Like everyone else here just like to say sorry for such a massive loss. RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 24, 2008, 02:40:16 PM
Here is the list of players called back for the second trial - is there anyone in with a shout of making the panel?

Martin Mc Erlean Armoy
John Dillon Armoy
Chris Mc Afee Ballymena
Brendan Cousins Ballymena
Liam Casserly Ballymena
Martin Hunter Carey
Nathaniel Hunter Carey
Bernard Graham Clooney Gaels
Donal Graham Clooney Gaels
Arron Smiley Cloughmills
Liam Kearns Cloughmills
Martin Ward Gort Na Mona
Colm Keenan Gort Na Mona
Paddy Mc Caffrey Gort Na Mona
Sean Hall Gort Na Mona
Nial Grego Gort Na Mona
Christy Tumulty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson Rasharkin
Declan Mc Kay Rasharkin
Conor Rocks Rossa
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Declan Mc Larnan St Agnes
Eoghan Caldwell St Endas
Fintan Gamble St Pauls
Rudi Graham Tir Na Nog
Kevin Sheerin Tir Na Nog

Condolences also on the death of CC Connolly - didn't know him personally but the loss of someone so young always has a big impact on family / friends / club etc. RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 24, 2008, 06:14:10 PM
I havent seen many of those players in action but those that I would have seen wouldnt be good enough but they deserve their shot at it sao fair play. Conor Rocks is a good prospect but I think its too soon for him, needs a year or so of Club Hurling for Rossa seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 24, 2008, 07:38:25 PM
Met CC a good few times through juvenile coaching, a real good lad, not a bad inch in him I would say. I am saddened to hear this news and my thoughts are with his family, friends and club mates.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2008, 07:45:11 PM
was told today of his untimely death. always shocking when you hear of such deaths. my thoughts are with his family at this sad time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2008, 08:14:33 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=IMG%5F0007%2Ejpg&w=500)

i wonder would he share his joke with us?

Captions please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2008, 09:11:42 PM
I do believe Johhny Ping is rubbing Mc Garrys hand with his thumb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 24, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
RIP CC terrible news for all concerned. I know his Father who is a true gentleman, God rest his soul.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on November 25, 2008, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 24, 2008, 08:14:33 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=IMG%5F0007%2Ejpg&w=500)

i wonder would he share his joke with us?

Captions please

"i know that some smartarse will put this on that f*****g other website on monday, but just wait till you see my reply on the county website"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on November 25, 2008, 09:29:36 AM
Sorry to hear about CC's death. Hard to take on board. God rest him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 25, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Was CC the wee nippy corner forward for the bodies up until very recently?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 25, 2008, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Was CC the wee nippy corner forward for the bodies up until very recently?



Aye, i dont think he played last year or this year for their seniors. I remember he was up with the county for a year, maybe the last year of Dinnys reign or under Jingo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 25, 2008, 03:06:59 PM
CC had to give up Hurling from a back injury he received while playing in  challenge game down in Cork. Very sad. Tough times a head for the family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 25, 2008, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 25, 2008, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 25, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
Was CC the wee nippy corner forward for the bodies up until very recently?



Aye, i dont think he played last year or this year for their seniors. I remember he was up with the county for a year, maybe the last year of Dinnys reign or under Jingo.


i marked the lad a few times in recent years and he was a decent spud, sorry to hear the news about him and only in his late 20's!

The things we take for-granted!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 27, 2008, 03:36:04 AM
Sorry "johnneycool" tried sending you a PM but unfortunately I don't think it worked. ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on November 27, 2008, 08:49:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 24, 2008, 08:14:33 PM
(http://www.antrimgaa.net/image.asp?p=1&i=IMG%5F0007%2Ejpg&w=500)

i wonder would he share his joke with us?

Captions please

"And finally, I'd like to present you with this player of the year award, which has been kindly sponsored by our good friends, www.gaaboard.com"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 28, 2008, 10:38:26 PM
I see Dinny " I have a terrible migraine" Cahill is the new Graigue Ballycallan manager in Kilkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 02, 2008, 08:03:48 PM
i heard a story that Gorts are now playing their quarter final at Casement on the 20th of December, maybe the Irish lads in London lookinhg to come home for Christmas play the match and be done with it till feb. Can the Gorts MrT let us know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on December 03, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
I had seen from the county website no so long ago that they have not been able to fill the post of Minor Hurling managers, was shocked to hear last night that interviews had taken place and these people where told that "There was no money available for the team", two lads in particular wanted to take the minors on the road in 2009 with the seniors and play games while the county where playing the next day, or that morning before the seniors, and they where told in no uncertain terms that this was impossible! Now MR, Minder and Skull that would never happen in the capital city! Its a disgrace, it seems like the Doc just wants his C of Excellence no-matter what the cost.............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 03, 2008, 03:52:49 PM
when was the last time that there was any significant investment in the minor setup?

I would say it was when S&W were involved is that just coincidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on December 03, 2008, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 03, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
i think that last years minor hurlers and footballers were the best kitted out team minor team i have ever seen. but im not sure about the rest. i think they did go on a few trips also.

davinci, im not saying your lying, but how sure that this is correct? i was speaking to someone who was involved with last yrs minor set up at the weekend and he told me there would be no discussions for a while as there was no rush because they cant train til march anyway

100% Colonel, anything else you hear is BS*** or Spin!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on December 03, 2008, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 03, 2008, 04:19:29 PM
im still not sure davinci, i'll tend to believe my man over yours. who was going for the post? i heard tommy lismore was going forward, also heard micky wing.

100% Colonel, this guy lismore went in with a guy called gavin duffy, interviews over these guys walked away! Whoever they are, don,t know them just names to me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 03, 2008, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: davincicode on December 03, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
I had seen from the county website no so long ago that they have not been able to fill the post of Minor Hurling managers, was shocked to hear last night that interviews had taken place and these people where told that "There was no money available for the team", two lads in particular wanted to take the minors on the road in 2009 with the seniors and play games while the county where playing the next day, or that morning before the seniors, and they where told in no uncertain terms that this was impossible! Now MR, Minder and Skull that would never happen in the capital city! Its a disgrace, it seems like the Doc just wants his C of Excellence no-matter what the cost.............

sure they are only minors, when i was a minor we trained at the bottom of the falls park!!!! no buses to take ya home from Dunloy, check points from our friends the UDR outside the village holding ya for two hours. near 12 before we got home and not a tracksuit in sight. did we mind????? not a jot kids nowdays need to be kept in cotton wool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 03, 2008, 10:36:10 PM
I see the Johnnies were getting stocked up for Christmas.......




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7763845.stm

Gang rob delivery men at gunpoint 
 
Two delivery men have been robbed at gunpoint in GAA club grounds in west Belfast.

The men were on the Falls Road shortly after 1200 GMT on Wednesday when they were approached by two men armed with a handgun and a knife.

The driver was forced to take a lorry to the GAA club grounds on the Whiterock Road where four other men were waiting.

There he was forced to help them unload alcohol into two waiting vehicles.

The gang then made their escape, leaving the two delivery men in the grounds of the GAA club.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 03, 2008, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 03, 2008, 10:36:10 PM
I see the Johnnies were getting stocked up for Christmas.......




http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7763845.stm

Gang rob delivery men at gunpoint 
 
Two delivery men have been robbed at gunpoint in GAA club grounds in west Belfast.

The men were on the Falls Road shortly after 1200 GMT on Wednesday when they were approached by two men armed with a handgun and a knife.

The driver was forced to take a lorry to the GAA club grounds on the Whiterock Road where four other men were waiting.

There he was forced to help them unload alcohol into two waiting vehicles.

The gang then made their escape, leaving the two delivery men in the grounds of the GAA club. with no gear and no hurls!!! they managed to find some baseball bats and played rounders till the PSNI came and they all headed to Casement and found the robbers working behind the bar ;)



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on December 07, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
Minder - can you confirm Glenariffe have been training for the last couple of months? The brother was telling me he was chatting to one of their players - i presume they are out to do a Ballycran in next years Div 2??  Hard to keep that commitment going if that's true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on December 08, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
Antrim Senior Hurling

After the two trial matches in November, the following players have been selected to play in a third match in early January

Rudi Graham, Kevin Sheerin Tir na nOg
Fintan Gamble St Pauls
John Dillon Armoy
Liam Cassley All Saints
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Martin Ward Desy Mc Lean, Sean Hall Gort na Mona
Christy Tumelty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson St Mary's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 09, 2008, 09:09:10 AM
Quote from: aontroim on December 07, 2008, 02:28:44 PM
Minder - can you confirm Glenariffe have been training for the last couple of months? The brother was telling me he was chatting to one of their players - i presume they are out to do a Ballycran in next years Div 2??  Hard to keep that commitment going if that's true.

I can confirm this to be true, they have been doing individual weights programmes. Nothing too heavy as you would soon get a sickener at this time of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 09, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
Fair play to youse minder ....shows a bit a of dedication. If you keep yourself right instead of pinting your way towards mediocrity over the winter then it can only be a good thing for anybody that wants to improve. Think every player should be told/convinced to have his own training program over the off season, whilst not living a monastic existence at the same time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on December 09, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
QuoteMichael Hasson St Mary's

Who are St Mary's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2008, 11:26:29 AM
Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 09, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
Quote from: the colonel on December 08, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
will any of those players actually bring anything to the squad?

Colonel - Simple answer NO!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2008, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 09, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
Fair play to youse minder ....shows a bit a of dedication. If you keep yourself right instead of pinting your way towards mediocrity over the winter then it can only be a good thing for anybody that wants to improve. Think every player should be told/convinced to have his own training program over the off season, whilst not living a monastic existence at the same time.
Reassess the situation after the Xmas holidays!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 09, 2008, 02:33:09 PM
If any of those lads have got physical presence and the right attitude to training and are prepared to work on their skills then I say they are worth a go. Hurlers can be a snobby bunch  where someone with a bad first touch can be ridiculed very quickly. But theres been many's a "spoiler" that has made space/time for good hurlers to thrive. You never know til ye give it a go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 06:56:55 PM
14 of us brave the Sunday morning at Milltown at Noon. top pitch frozen bottom pitch grand, bit of a warm up and we went into a sevens game. brought the small nets down (no jokes minder ;)) and played between the 21's. good craic and we'll continue right through. personal training plans being drawn up and wed nights at local school to be arranged for gym work or 5 a sides. a bit of craic to stop the boredom.

so Glenariff and the rest we are getting ready also. oh but we need a manager, any takers out there? plenty of potential if the right management come in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 08:26:50 PM
Hurling your having a laugh, irish news complains about coverage the BBC ITV give to gaelic games and they are guilty of doing the same thing to hurling, i've sent many a post but falls on deaf ears or smart alec remarks. they claim they have hurling reporters and your man from Cushendun is but they still fail to have equality
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 09, 2008, 08:47:29 PM
That fella O'Hara knows as much about hurling as my arse does about shooting snipes. They have never had anything other than a token interest in hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 09, 2008, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: NAG on December 09, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
Quote from: the colonel on December 08, 2008, 11:11:39 PM
will any of those players actually bring anything to the squad?

Colonel - Simple answer NO!

Tell me NAG how many of these players do you know anything about? How many of them have you seen hurling up close and personal over the last two years? I have seen plenty of players from senior clubs over the years who look good against poor/unfit opposition and then fold when the going gets tough. If even one of these guys makes his way onto the senior panel then it has been a worthwhile excercise and if none of them make it at least it gives a glimer of hope to younger under age players that the "county" do not ignore you just because you come from a junior/ intermediate club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 09, 2008, 10:43:43 PM
Cushendall play on the 22nd of Feb in Parnell park. should bring a good crowd. hopefully the posters here could make it down. arrange a bus maybe??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 10, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
SCB

Fintan Gamble St Pauls
John Dillon Armoy
Liam Cassley All Saints
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Martin Ward Desy Mc Lean, Sean Hall Gort na Mona
Christy Tumelty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson St Mary's

I have watched all of these players at different stages of their development as players. I am not knocking the fact that these players may well be good hurlers. But the point is that if you are playing Div 1 hurling and Championship you are still slower to react slower to think slower to act so take that down a grade and slow the hurling down another notch. Barring a miracle or something quite exceptional which is not listed above then the chances of a hurler coming from Antrim's Div 2 to make any impact on the Senior Inter County Scene is less than minimal.

My point is that instead of throwing out this PR exercises S&W should be looking at the players that they are going to use next year and how they can improve them as players and correct the weakness that they have spotted as coaches over the past two years,

The 3rd year into their term they should not be looking at players they should have a settled side bar one of two changes and they should be putting all their drive and energy into making that side better players.

Can someone please name me one player from the squad that is a better player now than he was 2-3 years ago, has any player improved in that time?

(Have said it before I am no Dinny fan but you could see the improvement that he made in individual players games, he had a simple game plan which he stuck too and the players hurled to the game plan which made them a better side. Now we have no game plan and players that arent improving)

Somebody tell me Im wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Personally think that the message should be going out continually to Div 2 hurling that if "individually" you're good enough then you will be considered. Over time you'll get two or three good men that have worked hard BECAUSE the opertunity to represent their county was always there. Close the door to their aspirations and you'll never know what talent you've lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 10, 2008, 01:38:12 PM
Skull

Im not on for closing the door despite how my post came across of course you have to make the most of the talent available to you no matter where that is from. My point is that 3 years into a managerial stint you should have a clear understand of what talent is out there without this.

Also my point about not improving one player still stands!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Bill on December 10, 2008, 05:53:37 PM
When is the trial match takin place? who would most likely to make it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 10, 2008, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: NAG on December 10, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
SCB

Fintan Gamble St Pauls
John Dillon Armoy
Liam Cassley All Saints
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Martin Ward Desy Mc Lean, Sean Hall Gort na Mona
Christy Tumelty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson St Mary's

I have watched all of these players at different stages of their development as players. I am not knocking the fact that these players may well be good hurlers. But the point is that if you are playing Div 1 hurling and Championship you are still slower to react slower to think slower to act so take that down a grade and slow the hurling down another notch. Barring a miracle or something quite exceptional which is not listed above then the chances of a hurler coming from Antrim's Div 2 to make any impact on the Senior Inter County Scene is less than minimal.

My point is that instead of throwing out this PR exercises S&W should be looking at the players that they are going to use next year and how they can improve them as players and correct the weakness that they have spotted as coaches over the past two years,

The 3rd year into their term they should not be looking at players they should have a settled side bar one of two changes and they should be putting all their drive and energy into making that side better players.

Can someone please name me one player from the squad that is a better player now than he was 2-3 years ago, has any player improved in that time?

(Have said it before I am no Dinny fan but you could see the improvement that he made in individual players games, he had a simple game plan which he stuck too and the players hurled to the game plan which made them a better side. Now we have no game plan and players that arent improving)

Somebody tell me Im wrong?

whats this lad like? does he play football also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on December 11, 2008, 03:24:55 AM
Quote from: NAG on December 10, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
SCB

Fintan Gamble St Pauls
John Dillon Armoy
Liam Cassley All Saints
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Martin Ward Desy Mc Lean, Sean Hall Gort na Mona
Christy Tumelty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson St Mary's

I have watched all of these players at different stages of their development as players. I am not knocking the fact that these players may well be good hurlers. But the point is that if you are playing Div 1 hurling and Championship you are still slower to react slower to think slower to act so take that down a grade and slow the hurling down another notch. Barring a miracle or something quite exceptional which is not listed above then the chances of a hurler coming from Antrim's Div 2 to make any impact on the Senior Inter County Scene is less than minimal.

My point is that instead of throwing out this PR exercises S&W should be looking at the players that they are going to use next year and how they can improve them as players and correct the weakness that they have spotted as coaches over the past two years,

The 3rd year into their term they should not be looking at players they should have a settled side bar one of two changes and they should be putting all their drive and energy into making that side better players.

Can someone please name me one player from the squad that is a better player now than he was 2-3 years ago, has any player improved in that time?

(Have said it before I am no Dinny fan but you could see the improvement that he made in individual players games, he had a simple game plan which he stuck too and the players hurled to the game plan which made them a better side. Now we have no game plan and players that arent improving)

Somebody tell me Im wrong?

For once your not wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 11, 2008, 09:26:46 AM
For once Youngfella?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on December 11, 2008, 12:31:47 PM
sure u were making sense and everyone was on your back  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 11, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: NAG on December 10, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
SCB

Fintan Gamble St Pauls
John Dillon Armoy
Liam Cassley All Saints
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Jim Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Martin Ward Desy Mc Lean, Sean Hall Gort na Mona
Christy Tumelty Lamh Dhearg
Michael Hasson St Mary's

I have watched all of these players at different stages of their development as players. I am not knocking the fact that these players may well be good hurlers. But the point is that if you are playing Div 1 hurling and Championship you are still slower to react slower to think slower to act so take that down a grade and slow the hurling down another notch. Barring a miracle or something quite exceptional which is not listed above then the chances of a hurler coming from Antrim's Div 2 to make any impact on the Senior Inter County Scene is less than minimal.

My point is that instead of throwing out this PR exercises S&W should be looking at the players that they are going to use next year and how they can improve them as players and correct the weakness that they have spotted as coaches over the past two years,

The 3rd year into their term they should not be looking at players they should have a settled side bar one of two changes and they should be putting all their drive and energy into making that side better players.

Can someone please name me one player from the squad that is a better player now than he was 2-3 years ago, has any player improved in that time?

(Have said it before I am no Dinny fan but you could see the improvement that he made in individual players games, he had a simple game plan which he stuck too and the players hurled to the game plan which made them a better side. Now we have no game plan and players that arent improving)

Somebody tell me Im wrong?

Ryan McGarry
Aaron Graffin
Neil McGarry
Sean Delargy
Karl Stewart
Shane McNaughton

Others may have gone back but there are 6 players that are better than they were 2-3 years ago. Whether this is because of county hurling (for most of them I think it is) is not what you asked.
At present I would have all 6 of them starting on my team somewhere or very very close to it.

Antrim are not allowed to train so they used a trial match(es) to see if anyone would come through. That is all they could do and they have done that. Whether S&W are taking this exercise seriously or not only they know but if someone steps up to the plate then they are big enough and ugly enough to welcome them in.
Should they be discouraged from inviting players to be on the squad...no.
Have come across all of those who have made it to the next stage in some shape or form and if they were dedicated, took the county seriously for a year with the weights, the training, the commitment...then they wouldn't be too far away and would be very good squad members.

I am sick to the teeth of hearing about the in-house, closed doors, batton down the hatches training matches they have in Kilkenny...we need to learn from them.
If Liam Cassley is stylish enough to test Shorty mopping up in open play, if Michael Hasson could keep one of the current half backs on their toes, if Kearns could give Graffin/Delargy the run around for a few training sessions then we're all the better for it.

Where S&W get questioned, and seriously questioned, is on what they do after Christmas, in the Walsh Cup, the League and then the challenge v Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 11, 2008, 12:55:32 PM
Yeah agree with that Glens. The reality is lads that we need to have a bit more encouragement about the place to people doing new things. I hope one or two of them lads make it and that over time more and more of the Div  2 clubs will have more individuals who aspire to get there along with them. Can only be a good thing regardless of how sceptical you might be at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 11, 2008, 01:49:03 PM
Lads lads, are we forgetting that this is there third year in post and granted the rules have changed, My point was had S&W directly done anything to influnce or coach these players to become better players through their coaching or manangement and the sad fact is no they havent.

All the lads you mentioned Glens have progressed on their on path, Neill McGarry didnt play hardly at all last year so that one is mute.

You mentioned the in house matches, the difference is that KK are matching players who are very close in Talent in Antrim we are not, especially when we dip down into the lower div's (not a fault of the players) Its just simple fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 11, 2008, 02:25:52 PM
NAG......there are a lot of factors which hold our development back. Drawing a sharpe focus on the County management team may expose one of them, but in truth we all know that there is not enough willing coaches pushing the skills of the games within their clubs. That gives any county management team very little to work with. This is our biggest problem. Should we not focus on getting that right before we have an opinion on whether the County Management team make best use of the talent that they have available to them? If efforts are being made to "try" and move things on then it should be welcomed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 11, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
Yes Skull I am totally open for anything that drives the county forward but my point was one single element.

If Dinny could make such an improvement in individual players and the game plan in general then should we not expect the same of future managers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 11, 2008, 10:23:46 PM
Yes Dinny improved some of our players alot, ( Kettle,Karl McK,Ciaran Herron, Paddy Richmond) but he had by Antrim terms a pretty good team with some players in their peak( Pinky, Aidan Delargy,Liam Richmond, Dick O'Kane).....I agree he was a very good coach but i'd say alot of the improvement was made by Antrim players finally catching up with the rest of Ireland in terms of training & preparation. Fair play to him the team performed well in the 2 quarter finals against Tipp & Wexford(we still lost) & played a good brand of hurling..but.......

On the Downside....For the improvement in 16/17 county players see the shocking state of our leagues at that time, county players were hardly allowed to play for their clubs cos he had them training Friday,Saturday & Sunday mornings. ( Remember the non starred leagues  :-[). I remember that they didnt focus too much on the leagues which was very poor. What about Darren Quinn/Sean Delargy..(maybe a few others too) sitting on the bench for 3 years, hardly hitting a ball & nearly ruined their club careers. His underuse of Tosh( put him on as a sub in the league I think & took him off soon after)  & Malachy Molloy(especially in the Wexford match) where we got cleaned out at Midfield & cost us the match as Rory McCarthy ran riot in the 2nd half. & dont get me started on Brian Corcoran & Niall McCarthy

I just dont see why he should be painted as a messiah....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
ok two hands, i agree with you on most parts, the leagues and fringe players not getting games and the crap starred games. but the team was fantastic. going to croke park was great. ok we lost but i left with my head held high.

we need that level of commitment from the players and management. i'm not saying S&W aren't committed, we just had a better team. but did we? i'm confused.

i want to be optimistic, Dinny brought a quick fix S&W will bring it slowly i hope
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 11, 2008, 10:47:39 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
ok two hands, i agree with you on most parts, the leagues and fringe players not getting games and the crap starred games. but the team was fantastic. going to croke park was great. ok we lost but i left with my head held high.

we need that level of commitment from the players and management. i'm not saying S&W aren't committed, we just had a better team. but did we? i'm confused.

i want to be optimistic, Dinny brought a quick fix S&W will bring it slowly i hope

Not really high though Milltown......  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 10:56:42 PM
high enough to beat youse ;)  hey and i felt really high when you were lying on the ground with a wee blankey over ya waiting on the ambulance ;)  christ had a stitch in my belly after eating all the grub upstairs waiting for you to get off the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 11, 2008, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 10:56:42 PM
high enough to beat youse ;)  hey and i felt really high when you were lying on the ground with a wee blankey over ya waiting on the ambulance ;)  christ had a stitch in my belly after eating all the grub upstairs waiting for you to get off the pitch

You mustnt have eaten enough as a lad, stunted your growth. Thats the only way youse could beat us, with me off the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 11, 2008, 11:03:45 PM
 :D :D :D brill

didn't hinder my playing days. but some players needed brawn to help their other faults ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on December 12, 2008, 07:53:01 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1373 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1373) - link to the County Chairman's Speech from Convention on Wednesday.  Big warning about not taking Dublin for granted in the Leinster C'ship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 12, 2008, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: aontroim on December 12, 2008, 07:53:01 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1373 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1373) - link to the County Chairman's Speech from Convention on Wednesday.  Big warning about not taking Dublin for granted in the Leinster C'ship.

How in the name of God would we be in a position to take Dublin for granted ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on December 12, 2008, 10:10:40 AM
QuoteHow in the name of God would we be in a position to take Dublin for granted ?

He doen't actually say that, or anything like that:

From the Chairman's Address:

QuoteIn hurling, a consistent performance in what is now a better structured league is required, but I want to caution against any expectations in the championship against Dublin. Dublin hurling is far more advanced in their development than Antrim. The expectation and sense of anticipation must rest with them in a Croke Park that will be packed with the hungry "Jacks". The Glensmen will be the underdogs against an Anthony Daly led Dubs, let there be no doubt about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on December 12, 2008, 12:50:45 PM
"high enough to beat youse   hey and i felt really high when you were lying on the ground with a wee blankey over ya waiting on the ambulance   christ had a stitch in my belly after eating all the grub upstairs waiting for you to get off the pitch"

Its best not to take any chances where a staved thumb is concerned.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 16, 2008, 07:05:48 PM
nothing much on this while back, have all the clubs had their AGM's? we had ours on Sunday. same old shite. anything interesting come from our antrim clubs, any major Motions passed or shafted for another year? and attendances we had 75 at ours. whats the norm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 16, 2008, 07:21:04 PM
was yours not the week before?  see a load a cars at the club sunday last
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 17, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
We had ours  2 weeks ago, I'm embarrassed to say 38 people, the commitee, Juv hurling mentors, a couple of hurlers and footballers and the social club faction there of course to make sure we don't close the bar but god forbid you get them to do anything useful in the club, "sure we are too busy buying drink". The best line I heard was that some coaches time would be better spent administrating than coaching, there's vision for you. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 17, 2008, 08:10:37 PM
38 is poor enough turn out Last Man, i thought our turn out was poor :o

i've loads doing at the club but could not commit to being on the committee. thankless task
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on December 17, 2008, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2008, 08:12:49 PM
This belter was heard at an AGM once. No names.

"The camogs should be made to pay for the use of the pitch for training and matches."

When questioned on why the camogs should when the hurlers and footballers don't have to, the person replied, "Aye but at least the hurlers and footballers go into the club and buy a couple of pints after training and matches."

As you can imagine, it didn't go down very well.

I don't see the problem with that myself Hardstation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 17, 2008, 10:43:31 PM
I agree Milltown, but I would say that a lot more people including yourself in your club contribute something where a few have to do it all in ours. A bit of success makes it easier up to point, they'd be cueing up to bask in the glory no doubt if it came our way. The johnnies will be making sure that doesn' t happen though. (Meaning the juveniles of course)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 18, 2008, 10:27:34 PM
too few doing so many jobs, it happens in all clubs last man. we just have more things to look after
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 18, 2008, 11:14:17 PM
oh by the way, the senior hurling team is currently looking a senior Manager? any thoughts on this? would like some ideas. sensible ones Hardstation please :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 18, 2008, 11:45:49 PM
Quote from: sail_in on December 12, 2008, 10:10:40 AM
QuoteHow in the name of God would we be in a position to take Dublin for granted ?

He doen't actually say that, or anything like that:

From the Chairman's Address:

QuoteIn hurling, a consistent performance in what is now a better structured league is required, but I want to caution against any expectations in the championship against Dublin. Dublin hurling is far more advanced in their development than Antrim. The expectation and sense of anticipation must rest with them in a Croke Park that will be packed with the hungry “Jacks”. The Glensmen will be the underdogs against an Anthony Daly led Dubs, let there be no doubt about it.
Aye Minder don't let the truth get in the way of yet another attack on Dr McSparran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on December 19, 2008, 10:17:44 AM
Time for the Christmas 2008 awards?

Best Player?

Best Score?

Best Tackle?

(mainly from the antrim scene but will accept others if they are up to scratch, feel free to add your own criteria)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 20, 2008, 03:01:58 PM
That's a good win for the gorts today. Anyone at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 20, 2008, 08:13:07 PM
Was at the match Tony, first half was great considering the conditions. Gorts blew them out of the water, going 6 up at half time. two goals one well taken and the other a clanger from the Emmets keeper. 2-4 to 0-4

half time and Gorts failed to score till the 60th minute. the Gorts goal keeper was sent of for a what can only be described as a karate kick on the ex Gorts player Sean Quinn. straight red. Emmets leveled the game on 60 minutes and looked as if they were going to win. but a hopeful punt into the goal area keeper caught the ball and then threw it into his net, gorts then score 3 more to win by 6. strange game. Gorts need to improve for the 25th of Jan. Blarney from Cork will be tougher.

fair play Gorts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 20, 2008, 08:31:14 PM
Na Panzer went into nets from playing half back. kept Gorts in the game. the goal keeper was a big lad. has done nets for Gorts for a awhile but that could have cost them big time. Greavesy was in the panel but not as the second keeper!!!! is he any good out of nets?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 21, 2008, 01:17:45 PM
Acmhl The good Doc and The NAC at loggerheads over the leagues, No interest in the Leagues from NA and SW in hurling or football, i wonder why. Why the count didn't act when the Belfast clubs didn't turn up  for their matches two years ago, Typical of the doc trying to force NA to slow progress instead of helping the other divisions. Their must be a grant somewhere or he wouldn't be looking at club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 21, 2008, 02:37:33 PM
There probably are big funding implications no doubt and I dont think the county exec should be having to waste their time on what is essentially a Divisional board issue. However the SA board have stood over the development of a very unhealthy situation in juvenile hurling, they have let a few manipulate and dominate to the detriment of all other clubs, and lets face it, hurling in Belfast is going down the toilet. Going all county with U16 and minor is in principal a good thing as it provides more games, more competition, more hurling, great..But will the Belfast clubs be able to deliver...thats the gamble and it pushes the real problem down the road in that the SA board needs an injection of talent, enthusiasm, forward thinking to lead clubs out of this mess. NA and SW are very protective of the progress the have made and are making and why wouldn't they be. I have heard nothing from the SA board about this, but God love them they probably haven't a clue what to do any way. The Divisional system works in NA and SW and these 2 boards clearly cooperate for the mutual benefit of their clubs, so why is SA not at the same level?? Answer: Personel. So Belfast clubs you need to call an SA EGM and get a decent commitee in, sort yourselves out and stop expecting everyone else to carry the can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 22, 2008, 01:02:34 PM
Last Man the County board are intrested in doing away with the divisional boards, which i see as a mistake at present. We do not have the structures resources or more importantly the manpower to run the county from one committee. Two years ago the Co. tried to get rid of the Divisional chairmen off the management Co but the Doc was out voted. This was to me the first step in getting rid of the divisional board. It does seem strange the the Doc comming from a division that is working pretty well although there is room for improvement wants to get rid of it and i can't for the life of me see why. There seems to be a problem in SA with some clubs picking and choosing when they play, which is no good for the betterment of the division, but at the end of the day the other clubs don't seem to complain or not to there face anyway, which wouldn't happen in NA or SW.
But why get rid of something that works? there's more to it than meets the eye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 22, 2008, 02:50:03 PM
Well if thats the case James I think when it all shakes down we will find that its down to funding from UC or Croke Pk. I agrree totally, I think it would be mad to go All county. The only reason it works so well in N.Antrim is that it is pushed and well administered.
The Doc probably isnt too worried about N.Antrim as his own club is unfortunately slowly falling off the radar anyway. The ACB most likely see the problems in SA being sorted by the higher standards and structures in NA lifting them out of the shit they are in. The big danger is that the good standard will be dragged down. This broad brush approach is to simplistic, why not treat the problems at source, get all areas up to an acceptable standard, look at some inter divisional competitions and if that is a success then consider all county because in principle I'm not against it, when the time is right.
It would be good to know what the facts behind this are, could even be down to personalities/ powre struggles,who knows.
Don't forget, theres fellas building legacies for themselves here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
It would be a massive mistake to get rid of divisional boards.

From the outside looking in it appears like south belfast is in a bit of a mess which would be why we're seeing st endas in south west / north and lamh dhearg I think I heard are going that way too. Maybe that has something to do with it too.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 22, 2008, 05:14:14 PM
21 Belfast teams

17 south west

12 north Antrim

Too many Belfast clubs. Not enough kids or enough people looking after them with either the passion or recognised coaching qualifications.

You can take models from Tipp Dublin or even Kilkenny if they are not being monitored or assessed then they will fall by the wayside. Times have changed and Belfast has not moved. The Senior South Antrim leagues in hurling have been back two years and, against my initial fears have proven to be very good and well run. In two years we had a referee at each game and finals have been played at Casement. I hope more teams enter it this year to give the players more games.

The juvenile set up has been a disgrace, I'm not blaming the south Antrim board on this one. Clubs fail to put any effort into deciding whether or not they will be able to field teams consistently all year and have evenly contested games, instead of the hammerings handed out when St Johns play St Galls in under 16 hurling. This puts kids off and doesn't help. This is not St Johns fault of course its something that my club is currently trying to sort out and good progress has been made by great individuals taking the teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 23, 2008, 08:50:06 AM
Agreed Milltown, there probobly is too many clubs. Clubs with no pitch, what chance do they stand of ever developing juvenile structures????I'd say none so lets get them out of the equation. More importantly though there has to be loads of kids who are not being encouraged to take part in Gaelic games, who we just let go to "Simply Soccer" just because clubs cant be arsed to provide a decent alternative. We have to get rid of this "Field of Dreams" mentality, clubs need to sell themselves better. Where is the generation of 40 something ex hurlers who throw their kids out of a sometimes still moving car on a Sat/sun Morning and disapear in a cloud of dust in case they might be asked to help out. I help coach our kids and  have to say it is one of the best things I ever decided to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 23, 2008, 04:27:17 PM
Just read the County site, their must be no sick to treat in the glens today, what a load of shite. I think the situation would be easier sorted if he confronted the South Antrim clubs rather than forcing clubs to play in a league they don't want to play in, or make the two city clubs play in a NA league. Rossa already play in the juvenile competitions anyway.
If the U16 & minor teams in Belfast can't play a match will they be fined ? yes will the pay? No most clubs are broke. If the players don't turn up teams can't field, Matches are fixed in Belfast the clubs won't play. St Johns stated at convention they only played four matches ( they played 8) why because the didn't want to play they were in Dublin, THE will isn't their to play,
Can we throw persistant offenders out of the league NO against what we are trying to promote. The easiest way to start solving the problem is within the division, who i think would like some help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 29, 2008, 03:27:34 PM
I see Mc sparran has been busy creating publicity for the ac leagues I'm glad he's taking an intrest i something other than the Senior hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themanwhowasntthere on December 29, 2008, 03:55:42 PM
All-County underage leagues are a good idea in theory, but will they be beset by the usual "no-show" attitude when they're up & running? Clubs would need to consider very carefully if they can field before they decide to enter & the rules should be implemented about failure to field early on to sort out those that are messing about. I know it's not the same thing but, if you look at the Ulster Minor Hurling leagues, there were very few matches played at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on December 29, 2008, 04:46:35 PM
Do the referees still get paid though?  i attended some pitches last year and both teams didn't show!!!!! strange that the grounds man had turned up lined out the pitch and the teams didn't turn up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 29, 2008, 08:47:12 PM
As long as you put in your match report, stating that you were there on your own, you'll get paid alright, Milltown. I get the feeling that it'll happen frequently next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on January 03, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
Mork or Mindy on NA site hit nail on head just about perfectly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 05, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Can someone post the doc's comments on this topic please!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 06, 2009, 04:16:40 PM
See we have Laois away in the first round of our defence of the Walsh Cup - any info on the likely make up of the team/panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 06, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
Cloot..there was a friendly v Jordanstown tonight at Casement so we might find out a bit more from that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 07, 2009, 10:10:49 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 06, 2009, 09:08:41 PM
Cloot..there was a friendly v Jordanstown tonight at Casement so we might find out a bit more from that.

Jeez - wouldn't have fancied getting a slap from a hurl on a night like last night. Ouch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 07, 2009, 05:56:03 PM
Sure there will be no more slappin with these new rules and I think they might be stopping games if it gets too cold, which I am all for by the way, my ould circulation isn't what it was ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 08, 2009, 09:29:45 AM
Any reports from the match v the Poly?

Jordanstown must have some team with Graffin, Magill, McManus, McAuley and a few others. Greg O'Kane taking them - any reports on his training? Would say it would be good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 08, 2009, 09:49:52 AM
Would very much doubt that any of the cushendal boys will be taking part for the poly or the county at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 08, 2009, 10:24:21 AM
If they have I stand corrected but I dont think it would be worth the risk of playing in any other meaningless friendlies or pre season competitions when they have a great shot of making an all Ireland final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 08, 2009, 09:20:26 PM
they defo played in the Div 2 final which UUJ won. would do them no harm. our lads played college football during the All Ireland run. no better training than playing games. you could get hurt playing or training for the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 09, 2009, 10:47:56 AM
Aye but the difference is that the Milltown boys were playing at a high level in the games they took part in, I dont think the same could be said of the cushendall boys.

Yes it is true you could get hurt training or playing for the club but that is exactly it they are training and playing for the club and these things would be acceptable, I doubt very much if they would if they pulled up in an Antrim Challenge v the Poly. IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 09, 2009, 01:47:36 PM
Disagree with you NAG.
Players can't be wrapped up in cotton wool and shouldn't be.
The Dall are playing friendlies (last weekend, this weekend). There is nothing like a run of matches to give you some form. You can do all the training you like but they will need to hit the ground running v De La Salle.

Those boys in the university teams are young and can handle the challenges/demands of playing games. God knows they have enough time to recover...
It would indeed be a shame if they got injured yes...but I'd rather they had game time than just train away.
There is no substituing for game time IMO so if I was the Cushendall manager I would be happy enough (within reason of course).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 09, 2009, 01:51:19 PM
Yeah I would be happy enough for them to get game time with cushendall, playing in these games with the poly and the county only can teach them bad habits. They will need to be in the mindset of playng faster and harder than they ever have before not playing these tippy tappy games at this time of the year which all these friendlies turn into.

However rest assured if one of those players gets injured not playing for cushendall and has to miss the semi final there will be hell to pay in cushendall and questions would be asked of the manager as to why his prized assest were pissing around in friendlies at this time of the year.

Its just fact lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 12, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
Did anyone hear anything about the new proposal on the way to enter regional teams in the Senior Championship? 

I think the current idea is to have a team from the south west, and one from North Antrim anyway.  As I understand it, this would be in addition to a club's own club championship, so for example, our players (Clooney Gaels) could play in the intermediate championship for us and in the senior championship for the south west.

We talked about it at a meeting last night and I don't think my club is going to be supporting it.  The players we would be sending to that would be dual players and would have enough on come August.

I think most of the other clubs in our area would be in a similar position.

There might be more of a chance in North Antrim as they would have a number of hurling-only clubs (Carey, Armoy, Cushendun and Cloughmills) and they wouldn't have the same demands on their players.

It's hard to imagine an amalgamation team going to the same level of preparation for a senior championship as the main clubs that would be entered in it, and therefore I think it would be a bit of a waste of time.  To be honest I wouldn't really want to play in a championship for anybody other than my club.

I think the main motivation for this is the withdrawal of a couple of the clubs from the senior championship. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 12, 2009, 12:01:31 PM
If it was done properly with a bit of funding available for the 'Regions' I think this may be one way of lifting the standard of the so called weaker clubs. If their best 6-7 players come together with the same from 3-4 other clubs instantly the standard is raised and with the right coaching and management they can then take this increased standard back to their clubs.

No one is saying they would be instantly successful but with a bit of work and tinkering it could be one way to bring the standard up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 12, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
sail_in has a valid point re dual players in august, but I would love to see this happening, so creative thinking needed to come up with a solution to this problem. The ambitious hurlers playing intermediatte I'm sure would love the chance to play in the senior championship and it may very well provide an imputeous to improve the quality at that level

Isn't it great to see that suggestions/ideas discussed on this forum are being listened to. :-*

On another point
I see Antrim played UCD yesterday losing by 2 in the end. Looked a fairly decent line out with the dall boys missing, but I was shocked that I saw one of my own club men lining out for the county when he has still not bedded himself a place in the club first 15. Conor is a terrific lad and will most likely get there this year and will be one to keep and eye on for the future, but he needs to cut his teeth in the club game first to learn the trade. The cart does not come before the horse. Dinny did the same Darren Quinn and he didn't benefit from it. Surely someone has to stand out at Senior level for their clubs to get a call up for the county? Is that not how it should work?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 12, 2009, 01:03:53 PM
QuoteSurely someone has to stand out at Senior level for their clubs to get a call up for the county? Is that not how it should work?

Ideally yeah.  Was Joey Scullion not playing regularly for Antrim a couple of years back when he's wasn't a regular in the Loughgiel team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 12, 2009, 02:20:22 PM
Joey never really made any impact in the Senior county because of that fact he hadnt cut his teeth in the senior club game, I would be fearful the same would happen to young mckinley I believe he is good enough but what would be wrong giving him a full season of senior hurling behind him before lashing him into the big time. I dont see any benefit from throwing these young guys to the lions, has it worked for any of them in recent years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
From the outside looking in it does look like it's done Darren Quinn harm. He only seems to be developing now.

Joey Scullion doesn't seem to be anywhere near the player it was hoped he'd become either. Whether that's because he went to the county too early I don't know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 12, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 12, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
From the outside looking in it does look like it's done Darren Quinn harm. He only seems to be developing now.

Joey Scullion doesn't seem to be anywhere near the player it was hoped he'd become either. Whether that's because he went to the county too early I don't know.

There is definately something to be said for letting young players develop at their own rate rather than throw them in too early but as its only the Walsh cup I'd wouldn't be too bothered as I'm sure there wasn't a whole pile of pressure put on the team. It's the NHL and so on where the crowd may get on the back of players when things aren't going right that you'd be worried about affecting young players adversely.

It's only later on in years you grow a thicker skin and find out that those bemoaners couldn't hurl snow off a rope in their day that you ignore them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 12, 2009, 03:53:52 PM
If it's about young lads with good potential (which they have) who are bursting to hurl and train at this time of year with no big pressures then that is all good as long as they are released back to nail their place in their club team before they would ever be considered as part of the County Squad preparing for the summer, because there's nothing worse than someone heading off to county training when the season starts when everyone still knows that they're still not a certain starter with their clubs. Too much pressure. One step at a time eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 12, 2009, 09:56:16 PM
totally agree skull. players need to be regular first "teamers" and this is not happening at the minute.

if a club manager feels a certain player has lost his form for the club and is a sub, if the player thinks he's good enough for the county, then it says a lot about the player. 

if i was that young player and couldn't get my club senior team. I'd drop from the county and concentrate playing for my club, end of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimexile on January 13, 2009, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 09, 2009, 01:51:19 PM
Yeah I would be happy enough for them to get game time with cushendall, playing in these games with the poly and the county only can teach them bad habits. They will need to be in the mindset of playng faster and harder than they ever have before not playing these tippy tappy games at this time of the year which all these friendlies turn into.

However rest assured if one of those players gets injured not playing for cushendall and has to miss the semi final there will be hell to pay in cushendall and questions would be asked of the manager as to why his prized assest were pissing around in friendlies at this time of the year.

Its just fact lads

FROM WHAT I HEAR A NUMBER OF THE CUSHENDALL TEAM ARE ALREADY INJURED, AND KEVIN ELLIOTT MAY NOT PLAY AGAIN.
THE CUSHENDALL FORWARDS APART FROM SHANE MC NAUGHTON ARE NOT A SCORING TREAT. 
THE FORWARDS ARE PRACTICALLY THE SAME THAT FAILED V LOUGHREA 2 YRS AGO.
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 13, 2009, 08:45:22 PM
Cushendall will have all their players available, bar injury from now. a lot of the lads have played for the Polly and will be playing for Antrim in the Walsh cup I'd say

better than training. hopefully the Dall will be better prepared than last time. Think mcCambridge came back to early. but hopefully they will put that loss to good use. win ugly get to the final and take it from there.

we all know the other draw is were the MEN are at but the Dall need to experience walking out at Croke Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 13, 2009, 10:50:28 PM
Whats the story with Kevin Elliott. Sounds bad although we heard the same about Neill McManus during the summer so ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 14, 2009, 08:02:49 AM
Anybody see this article in the Sindo last Sunday on my namesake and some other fella?!??!?!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/monarchs-of-the-glen-1598311.html

Not keen on that particular newspaper generally, but this article is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 14, 2009, 09:37:34 AM
Thats posts from two different people shrek?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 14, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
When are we going to learn from other sports that Top Down management doesnt work.

Players at the top level i.e. Inter County are the players that cant improved the least by coaching.

However players stepping on to the first rung of the ladder are the players that most improvement can be made in and what do we do, we top load our coaching structure and forget about the rest pretty much ignoring it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 14, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
I sense mood is not good about the county board at the minute, is the abrasiveness of the exec scaring posible candidates off.
A lot of fellas will be getting their heads down at work in case the axe falls so freeing up the time could be difficult for a lot of people as well. What about Mr Daly getting 100k a year allegedly and its not that he has broken much delf on the management front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 14, 2009, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 14, 2009, 08:02:49 AM
Anybody see this article in the Sindo last Sunday on my namesake and some other fella?!??!?!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/monarchs-of-the-glen-1598311.html

Not keen on that particular newspaper generally, but this article is pretty interesting.

It was interesting, if only for the fact that Cloot and Niall Patterson have absolutely no interest in the game nowadays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 14, 2009, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Last Man on January 14, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
I sense mood is not good about the county board at the minute, is the abrasiveness of the exec scaring posible candidates off.
A lot of fellas will be getting their heads down at work in case the axe falls so freeing up the time could be difficult for a lot of people as well. What about Mr Daly getting 100k a year allegedly and its not that he has broken much delf on the management front.

That is an absolutely obscene amount of money for an inter county manager.

Agreed 100% that many potential coaches, administrators etc will reassess whether they have the time to develop to GAA related jobs, particularly those in Self Employment, think clubs could be particularly affected
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 14, 2009, 07:07:38 PM
Senior Hurling Championship
14 January 2009
An invitation has been forwarded to North Antrim, South West Antrim and South Antrim Divisional Boards asking each division to enter a team into the Antrim senior hurling championship in 2009 which will probably begin in August 2009.The players will be drawn from Intermediate and Junior clubs within each division. They will still be eligible to represent their own club in their respective championship.

If players feel they would be interested in playing in a divisional hurling team, please contact Kieran Megraw 07766 073282 antrimgaahdm@btconnect.com or your club chairman/secretary for them to contact Kieran Megraw.

Who would manage these teams??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 14, 2009, 07:15:16 PM
me ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 14, 2009, 07:31:38 PM
OK I'm joking here but it will decide once and for all that the best players are from Belfast, with the special chips that have been imported from Poland us "Frankie's" have the diet plan in place.

this is something that has been going on in Munster counties for years in football and hurling. what harm could it do? as long as my club players are available for their clubs involvement in Championship then i see it as something tried. good call on the county board for thinking outside the box.

Down stole the march on Antrim by entering the south Down team into the leagues. South West should also consider this or south Antrim as a means for players to play on National stage and raise the standards, extra training and games in the early months would mean clubs having players in better condition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 14, 2009, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 14, 2009, 07:31:38 PM

this is something that has been going on in Munster counties for years in football and hurling. what harm could it do? as long as my club players are available for their clubs involvement in Championship then i see it as something tried. good call on the county board for thinking outside the box.

Down stole the march on Antrim by entering the south Down team into the leagues. South West should also consider this or south Antrim as a means for players to play on National stage and raise the standards, extra training and games in the early months would mean clubs having players in better condition


Quote from: theskull1 on March 13, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
Without thinking too much about it I could see the benefit for instance of south antrim and north antrim intermediate selects (maybe even south west as well) joining in the senior championship. It would be a great boost for committed players playing for intermediatte clubs and would I feel improve the 2nd tier no end, but what you are suggesting is robbing peter to pay paul


The low life's that exist on this forum would never have anything positive to offer sure not??  ;D ;D 8)



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 14, 2009, 10:05:38 PM
Will the clubs in the intermediate & junior championships be happy that their players will be going off training for another team when the likelyhood is that they will be preparing for their own championships around these times??

Good luck to all players who feel they can progress in the senior championships, but I can see problems for some of the clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 15, 2009, 08:09:28 AM
QuoteGood luck to all players who feel they can progress in the senior championships, but I can see problems for some of the clubs

Yep - as I've previously mentioned, anybody that we would be sending to that from our club would already be representing at least 2 teams in the club.

It's very possible that you'd have the situation where players were lining up alongside other players one weekend to play for a regional team in the senior championship, and also preparing to play against those same players the following weekend in the junior/intermediate championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2009, 09:13:21 AM
That was my first thought when i heard about it, if a team is in the latter stages of the Intermediate championship they wont want to send anyone to these regional teams. I would say there will be a certain amount of apathy towards it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 15, 2009, 09:31:40 AM
Have a few clubs pulled out of the Senior Hurling Championship.

Is the draw not normally about this time, looking in i'd say only Loughgiel, Cushendall, Johnnies, Ballycastle and Dunloy would be certs to compete at Senior, ii don't really blame Div2 sides for choosing to compete at intermediate, particularly with the incentive to go onto an All Ireland series
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 15, 2009, 09:59:44 AM
I think the current noise is that St Gall's and Glenariff will both drop to Intermediate this year.  And if those 2 are dropping I'd say there's a fair chance that Gort Na Mona won't go up!

That would leave Dunloy, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Ballycastle, St John's, and Rossa in the senior championship with realistically, only the first 3 of those with any real chance of winning it. 

As maxpower said, with Rossa competing in Divsion 2 this year also, you wouldn't really blame them for dropping down.  It's probably only their proud recent history that's stopping them from doing that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 15, 2009, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: sail_in on January 15, 2009, 09:59:44 AM
I think the current noise is that St Gall's and Glenariff will both drop to Intermediate this year.  And if those 2 are dropping I'd say there's a fair chance that Gort Na Mona won't go up!

That would leave Dunloy, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Ballycastle, St John's, and Rossa in the senior championship with realistically, only the first 3 of those with any real chance of winning it. 

As maxpower said, with Rossa competing in Divsion 2 this year also, you wouldn't really blame them for dropping down.  It's probably only their proud recent history that's stopping them from doing that.

What teams in Belfast or south Antrim to give it its correct title would almalgamate to create a team for the senior championship?

could be strong enough if the right personnel got involved!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 15, 2009, 11:36:39 AM
What teams in Belfast or south Antrim to give it its correct title would almalgamate to create a team for the senior championship?

could be strong enough if the right personnel got involved!!
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They'd probably still cut the pish outta each other, even if they were playing for the same team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 15, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
you'd imagine a team of St Pauls, Gorts, St Galls and a few of the junior clubs would have the makings of a decent outfit, imagine if the Rossa threw their hat in as well

In North Antrim a team of Armoy, Carey, Cushendun, St Brigids & possibly Glenarriffe would surely be competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 15, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
you'd imagine a team of St Pauls, Gorts, St Galls and a few of the junior clubs would have the makings of a decent outfit, imagine if the Rossa threw their hat in as well

In North Antrim a team of Armoy, Carey, Cushendun, St Brigids & possibly Glenarriffe would surely be competitive.

The thing i was thinking was if you are getting it tight and a "stranger" that you have trained with for maybe two weeks from another club was giving you a mouthful how would you react? Its more acceptable from fellas you play with week in week out and have known for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2009, 12:42:20 PM
Minder, fair enough but its a suggestion that I think is for the good of the county (whether it came from Skull or the powers that be...).

You often seek to find an issue with ideas suggested (and quite a few of your arguments come from a pretty parochial standpoint - I am not sure if you have been wronged in the past).

If someone is buying into this idea and going for it then they will have to accept that there will be different clubs, different personalities etc on board. The management of such a team will be important.
It seems to have worked at an underage level for St Brendans and some good hurlers appear to be coming out of that.

You not agree we need to do something? to at least spice up the Antrim senior championship? The cream of the crop will no doubt rise anyway but will give some decent hurlers the opportunity to play in the thick of senior championship. Do they deserve that for their efforts in training harder than club mates, being more dedicated but yet to be held back by their teammates (quite a mercenary view).


NOW COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING MYSELF
That said if I was involved with a club and was a decent player not good enough to make a divisional team and one of my better players got injured in a senior championship match and was out of the junior/intermediate championship I'd be raging.



Sure we're full of contradictions in this county.



Just read your post as well Colonel. Same parochial standpoint. It is there and will be forever (though I sometimes think my head is in the clouds and we should try to avoid it) but do you not see how the divisional teams have worked in Kerry's favour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2009, 01:14:49 PM
There are definitely many merits , imo, of these regional teams.

A few logistics need ironed alright but if it works elsewhere why can't it work here?

Timing of games would be a big one - how is that managed in Kerry I wonder. Do they play the "lower" championships off prior to the senior ones?

The "parochial" aspect is no different than it would be in, for example, a county game.

The likes of St Brendans has players from lesser hurling clubs playing from a young age against the top teams. This can do no harm. This is stopped at senior though so if these regional teams were developed it would help that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 15, 2009, 12:42:20 PM
Minder, fair enough but its a suggestion that I think is for the good of the county (whether it came from Skull or the powers that be...).

You often seek to find an issue with ideas suggested (and quite a few of your arguments come from a pretty parochial standpoint - I am not sure if you have been wronged in the past).

If someone is buying into this idea and going for it then they will have to accept that there will be different clubs, different personalities etc on board. The management of such a team will be important.
It seems to have worked at an underage level for St Brendans and some good hurlers appear to be coming out of that.

You not agree we need to do something? to at least spice up the Antrim senior championship? The cream of the crop will no doubt rise anyway but will give some decent hurlers the opportunity to play in the thick of senior championship. Do they deserve that for their efforts in training harder than club mates, being more dedicated but yet to be held back by their teammates (quite a mercenary view).


NOW COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING MYSELF
That said if I was involved with a club and was a decent player not good enough to make a divisional team and one of my better players got injured in a senior championship match and was out of the junior/intermediate championship I'd be raging.



Sure we're full of contradictions in this county.



Just read your post as well Colonel. Same parochial standpoint. It is there and will be forever (though I sometimes think my head is in the clouds and we should try to avoid it) but do you not see how the divisional teams have worked in Kerry's favour.

If i agree with a suggestion i will say so but i wont just because it is seen as "visionary". I pointed out two possible drawbacks. You say it is a "parochial" viewpoint, well rightly or wrongly the GAA is parochial in its very nature. The only way to improve the standards is from improved coaching standards which can take years to bear fruit. I know if Glenariffe had, for example, an Intermediate Semi and 4-5 players were involved in the regional team our manager would be spitting bullets. At the end of the day a manager of a club will be judged on his results and i would say will be totally indifferent to the idea of regional teams taking some players away at a crucial time of the season.

     Glenariffe will probably be playing Intermediate Championship this year, we have took some heavy beatings in the last few years in the Senior Championship, im not sure what 4 or 5 of our players can bring back to the club that all the players have not experienced in league/championship the last few years. Its a pretty insular viewpoint but that would be the view in a few clubs i would think. Rossa, St Galls, Glenariffe and the Gorts will be going full belt to win the Intermediate and get promoted this year and will see anything else as a distraction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2009, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
If i agree with a suggestion i will say so but i wont just because it is seen as "visionary".

It's because I thought of it first (allegedly) isn't it?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2009, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
If i agree with a suggestion i will say so but i wont just because it is seen as "visionary".

It's because I thought of it first (allegedly) isn't it?  :)

It is a big problem for me, yes. You are happier hiding behind "a cloak of anonymity", they really should copyright some of those terms as i saw it again today on the Official Website. It could be an excellent fundraiser along with the Saffron Sweep. Anytime someone says "internet gossip shop" the Antrim Board should get 25p
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 15, 2009, 02:54:10 PM
Lads, I have experience in the divisional hurling team experiment. In the Limerick Senior Hurling Championship they allow one divisional team compete in the actual championship. And how this is decided is by way of a divisional competition usually played around nov/dec or early january in this years case due to the big winter freeze.

Therefore the 4 divisions play each other in a round robin comp, City, West, South and East.
The main benefits are:
1. With only one division competing in the senior championship it doesnt have a big bearing on the intermediate/junior clubs
2. the divisional comps can be used as a trial for coutny managers, and some extra hurling for potential county hurlers.

This keeps the pain off the intermediate/junior clubs as much as possible, but also allows players the chance to qualify and play senior hurling which is a big thing for alot of players. The chance to be noticed by the county managers is alot greater if you are playing senior hurling championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2009, 05:16:26 PM
Minder, not quibbling with you whether you agree with it or not...that's your call, just highlighting the basis behind your decision not to agree with it.
Teams (a) might not send players and (b) players might bad mouth each other...but the idea behind it - giving players a higher standard of hurling and therefore bettering them as players can't and shouldn't be dismissed.
If it doesn't work it doesn't work but is it not worth a go.

That is an excellent way they implement it in Limerick. Truly visionary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 15, 2009, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 15, 2009, 05:16:26 PM
Minder, not quibbling with you whether you agree with it or not...that's your call, just highlighting the basis behind your decision not to agree with it.
Teams (a) might not send players and (b) players might bad mouth each other...but the idea behind it - giving players a higher standard of hurling and therefore bettering them as players can't and shouldn't be dismissed.
If it doesn't work it doesn't work but is it not worth a go.

That is an excellent way they implement it in Limerick. Truly visionary.
Part of the problem with these suggestions are there is no longevity. The attitude of sure we'll give it a lash this year means boys will have wasted a year out from their club on a fools errand when they potentially could have had a championship winning year at home.

As for the Carey, Armoy, Cushendun, Glenariffe etc suggestion - how many teams do you need to make up a decent 15-20 players?! Glenariffe and Cushendun have had several crossovers in the past 30 odd years and they nearly always end in acrimony.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2009, 09:05:34 PM
Sometimes the attitude from some people on this thread is damned if you do and damned if you don't. If it works for other counties why can it not work for us?

Our senior championships in football and hurling are becoming very mundane. Three teams - and given the last five performances in finals maybe only two - can win the hurling. Two can win the football. Life badly needs injected into them. Maybe this could inject some life and add some good experience for lesser players.

It is also about time teams were forced into the senior championship in hurling and football. In football all of division 1 plus intermediate winners should be forced into the senior. In hurling all of division 1 plus as many division 2 sides as there are down sides in division 1 should be in the senior. No choices. If intermediate champions are outside these teams them too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 15, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
look tony we only have to look at Kerry (football) and Cork (hurling) who use this system, albeit in Cork its not divisional but junior club players can play for senior teams in championship and their own championship.

why not get behind it? as long as it does not impede on my clubs championship then I'd be happy for players from my team playing against regional teams.

imtommygunn, your right that both championships are predictable but whose fault is that? i believe teams also have a duty to raise their own standards otherwise Cargin Naomh Gall Cushendall and Dunloy (sorry Loughgiel, win one and i'll put you in) will continue to get stronger
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2009, 10:43:28 PM
I would agree Milltown on that. I don't particularly like the way division 1 sides can opt for intermediate championships though - it shouldn't be allowed. There can be competitive games in a championship which will bring teams on without them having to win the thing.

Anyway, the divisional thing looks good. I'm not sure if I'm not picking something up YBBI - when are your intermediate and junior championships played off? Presumably before the seniors and then all the players on the relevant divisional team have no conflict of interests or is this not an issue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
Would be the only way it would work
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 16, 2009, 10:42:37 AM
Yes Colonel, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the divisional boards choose a manager at a meeting.
Obviously a willing manager who has some feel for the players in the area.
Any positive suggestions there?

CHAMPIONSHIPS
I could not agree more re the championships.
All Division 1 teams should be in the Senior Championship and the Intermediate winners.
If, as has been suggested, the Gorts stay in Intermediate in the football that is a disrgace. They have won the thing twice in the last two years (I think) and they should step up. They may not instantly have an impact at senior level (though should do all in their power to try to) but should work to get in there.
The quest for getting another medal for the collection should not stop teams moving up.

The same with the junior championship...if teams like Cushendun and Armoy drop down this year in my opinion that is not fair on those teams in the Junior Championship. They are recent winners of the intermediate and junior championship respectively. If they haven't taken the step up to intermediate/senior then it is the fault of the players/management/committee that they didn't take the next step. Teams have a duty as MR says to raise their standards/

The championship 'below' the one they should be in is not there for them to massage their egos, regroup, win a title and then move up. They have to do it themselves.


The damned if you do, damned if you don't doesn't just sum up some people in this board it sums up this county at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 10:44:29 AM
The divisional boards if they plan to go ahead with this should be looking for good people to manage these outfits. It should be someone from outside the region but who knows what is going on. Someone who would command respect from the clubs and the players involved. I think this could be made a runner with some clever thinking and flexibility on behalf of the CB and Fixtures committee so that there is no conflict with the clubs own schedule.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2009, 12:09:23 PM
Somebody like Geoffry is a very good suggestion for NA. Hurling flows through the mans blood, honest as the day is long and has Antrim hurlings best interests at heart
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 16, 2009, 12:16:54 PM
Surely the best idea would be afigure head such as the names mentioned and then one person nominated by each club to form a selection committee under said figure?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 16, 2009, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 16, 2009, 10:44:29 AM
The divisional boards if they plan to go ahead with this should be looking for good people to manage these outfits. It should be someone from outside the region but who knows what is going on. Someone who would command respect from the clubs and the players involved. I think this could be made a runner with some clever thinking and flexibility on behalf of the CB and Fixtures committee so that there is no conflict with the clubs own schedule.
::) No further comment required!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on January 16, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
The NA Coaching and Development Co discussed the divisional teams last night  and i don't think there was much support for it. Ahoghill and the SW clubs feel they already have enough on their plate with being dual clubs. They feel the players will already be over committed, i can see their point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 16, 2009, 06:02:31 PM
lets not dish it right away. JamesH us "frankies" have had to deal with dual status for years, add in your county players and the problem grows. but if Kerry in the football and Cork in the Hurling (and they aren't successfull counties) can do it, why not us Saffrons/Glensmen do it.

i may regret it latter when players from my club show an interest in joing the panel. but untill then.......

as for the manager, well in belfast you have many mangers that could fill in the position as regional manager. Jim Nelson, Sean McGuinness, or Crossey. they could have a good trainer with them. i'd say they still attend most local and north antrim club games so their local knowledge would be good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 16, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
Antrim Hurling Panel v Laois
16 January 2009
The Antrim Senior Hurling  Panel for their opening game in the 2009 Walsh cup v Laois this sunday at Rathdowney,is as follows;

1 Chris O Connell Loughgiel
2 Ciaran Mc Gourty St Galls
3 Neil Mc Garry Loughgiel
4 Conor Mc Kinley Dunloy
5 Johnny Campbell Loughgiel
6 Neal McAuley Ballycastle
7 Ciaran Herron Kevin Lynch's
8 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg
9 Paul Shields Dunloy
10 Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
11 Martin Scullion Loughgiel
12 Karl Stewart St Galls
13 PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels
14 Kieron Kelly Ballycastle
15 Paddy Doherty Dunloy
16 Ryan Mc Garry Ballycastle
17 Mickey Kettle Rossa
18 James Mc Keague Dunloy
19 Stephen Shannon Rossa
20 Eddie Mc Closkey Loughgiel
21 Joey Scullion Loughgiel
22 Simon Mc Corry St Johns
23 Dan Mc Killop Glenariff
24 Kevin Sheerin Tir na nOg


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 17, 2009, 12:22:17 AM
two Galls men on the panel now. think CJ may also put himself forward once his college commitments are complete.

will Lamhs be playing in the Junior hurling Championship this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 18, 2009, 03:44:04 PM
Antrim off to a competitive win today against Laois. 1-13 to 0-13

who do they meet in the next round?

Dublin were hammered 6-12 to 0-12 and Galway beat Offaly

Kilkenny no problems from their team holiday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 18, 2009, 04:43:56 PM
I'm good reports about Ciaran McGourty. corner back and holding his own against antrim regulars.

doesn't surprise me, Ciaran's a quality player. good to see Brendan herron playing again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 19, 2009, 08:49:38 AM
Is that a temporary captain for the early part of the league/ Walsh Cup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 19, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
Sounds like its an appointment for the year?!

Good to start with a win!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 19, 2009, 10:28:57 AM
Does sound like an appointment for the season but i thought Cushendall would have had the captain

Good result, anyone got a report
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 19, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
I think I can smell a night out for the Kilkenny lads, team bonding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 19, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 19, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
I think I can smell a night out for the Kilkenny lads, team bonding.

Get all those young fillies down from the glens and the wild west to get some Noreside genes into them, Welly boot probably the most likely destination unless they decide to stay in the Carrickdale like a lot of southern teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 19, 2009, 01:25:51 PM
Your county needs you. This is how I feel a few of your Saturdays should go next weekend. Hope that's ok.

Harstation
Hardstation seen in Bot pulling a rag out of his pocket and pouring something onto it.
Hardstation recognises him straight away: "So Richie (Hogan) do you think this smells of Chloroform?"
Thud, Richie on floor, emergency doors open in the front bar of the Bot, Richie bundled into the boot of the car to be returned to Casement at 3.45pm Sunday (just to be safe).

Milltown Row
Seen upstairs in Bot ("I'm just going for a walk love"), arm in arm with Aidso (Fogarty).
"I insissssssst Aidso, itsssssss my round again". Aidso collapses into a seat at the side of the dancefloor and MR is last seen pouring a shot of Absythne (his 7th) down Aidso's gub. Aidso wakes up on MR's sofa at noon with a start. MR drops him off at Casement and speeds away.Casement looks strangely like Hannahstown.

Minder
Out in the Welly Park "grab a granny" Saturday night disco with the missis. JJ Delaney staggers in, clearly having taken a wrong turn from the cash machine outside the Bot. JJ siddles up to Minder's missis. Starts to give her the chat, pulls out the All Ireland medal, the All Star tattoo he has across his chest for each year gets shown off. Minder's missis is up for the challenge though, informing him of the struggle in the Glens, the potential move to Intermediate and launches into a blow by blow account of the issues she has with a certain Doctor from the Glens. JJ has enough of this and reaches for her behind. BANG - he's out like a light with a swift blow to the side of the head from Minder. JJ wakes up in hospital at 2pm Sunday (the Ulster hospital as Minder got in the ambulance with him to make sure, not the Royal as its nearer Casement).

Skull
Out for a big night in the city with a few hallions. Ends up in The Eg (few fellas couldn't bite their finger when they tried to walk into the Bot). Tommy Walsh, Tennyson and Tyrell all across there. Team bonding..."pah forget that. We need to continue on the quest to the 15 in a row all irelands" is the general consensus among these three dedicated men. All are sat in a line at the bar with sparkling waters in front of them, Walsh with a dash of lime (picked this one up in San Fransisco, don't you know).
Skull spies them and with one fell swoop smothers them all (with a little room to spare) with his cloak of anonymity.
Next thing the trio wake up in The Bridge Bar Dunloy, blindfolded, naked and being made to listen to Country Roads on repeat. They are let go at 10am Sunday morning. The priest in Dunloy, as part of his homily Sunday morning, gave strict instructions to all god-fearing parishioners that should they per chance come across 3 naked men in such a state to drive on and not offer lifts to Belfast. And if they want to expedite their entry into heaven parishioners could even try and clip them with a wing mirror on the way by "Blessed are those that take out Kilkenny hurlers, theirs is..."


Its the least you boys could do given your gossip mongering.


Forward 9 months
Interview with Neil McGarry 10pm first Sunday of September 2009, Citywest
Marty: "So Neil, did you ever in your wildest dreams think you'd have lifted the Liam McCarthy this year"
Neil: "Its always been our goal Marty. Its been a long road. In my mind the turning point was when we beat a strong Kilkenny team in the Walsh Cup semi in January. It gave us that self belief and from there we went on a 20 match unbeaten run to this day".

Its said time and time again. All Irelands aren't won in September. They are won on long dark nights in January.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 19, 2009, 03:01:46 PM
Glensman...that ridiculous...sure everyone knows the banquet will be in the Burlington.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 19, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
After yesterdays victory in our defence of the Walsh Cup over Laois and Glensmans vision of Antrim winning Liam in 2009...it got me thinking if Antrim Hurlers should move to Munster as our domination of Lenister is unhealthy. Lets look at(some) of the facts from our recent matches against the Leinster teams

Carlow
Christy Ring Cup Final   August 6 Croke Park, Dublin
Antrim   5-13   Carlow 1-7

Dublin
NHL Div 1B  28 March 2007   Casement Park
Antrim 1-13 v 0-12 Dublin

Kildare
Christy Ring Cup Semi-Final   July 23
Cusack Park   Kildare   0-6   Antrim   2-21

Kilkenny
Walsh Cup Quarter Final January 20 Freshford
Kilkenny 1-17 Antrim  2-15

Laois
Walsh Cup 18.01.09.  
Antrim 1-13 Laois 0-14
All Ireland Senior Hulring Championship 2008 Navan
Antrim 2-18 Laois 0-16

Meath    
Christy Ring Group 24.06.06.
Antrim   3-12   Meath   0-13

Offaly
Walsh Cup Final   03/02/08    Casement Park
Antrim 3-12   Offaly 2-7
All Ireland Semi Final 1989     Croke Park
Antrim  4-15      Offaly 1-15

Wexford
NHL Dunloy 17/02/2008
Antrim    3-11   1-10   Wexford    

Even if you want you can include UCD & Galway you play in Leinster competitions

UCD
Walsh Cup Semi Final   27.01.08.Belfield   
Antrim 3-14  UCD  1-16

Galway
NHL  2006      Casement Park
Antrim 1-14 Galway 0-16

Pretty Clear if you ask me. Couldnt get results from Westmeath, Wicklow, Louth & Longford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 19, 2009, 08:32:02 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 19, 2009, 10:40:34 AM
hoganstand website said cushendall gave up the opportunity to have the captaincy this year and it seems mcgarry is in for the year

This would imply also that McGarry has nailed down the full back position for the year. I am not saying that is a bad thing but last year he was in and out of the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 19, 2009, 08:51:07 PM
McGarry was in and out due to injury. Would appear that he is the first choice fr S&W.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on January 20, 2009, 09:26:24 AM
Can anyone confirm what Division 2 looks like this year?

I know the following...

Glenariff
St. Galls.
Rossa
St. Pauls.
Gort na Mona

but who are the rest?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 20, 2009, 09:35:09 AM
what did we make of the draws for the championship then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 09:50:35 AM
Have you got them? Don't see them on county web-site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 20, 2009, 09:59:44 AM
All I had heard was that:

Ballycastle v NA Select winners to play dunloy in QF

QF SW Select v Glenarriffe

winner of both to play in the semi final, that is the only half of the draw I heard, didnt hear the other half?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2009, 01:15:49 PM
What's the catchment for SW Select? Ahoghill, Rasharkin etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 20, 2009, 01:26:37 PM
fair play to shane, hurled powerful well for the dall in the three games that mattered

can't fin the draw, where is it at?  anyone got the dates
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2009, 01:56:05 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1433 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1433)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sail_in on January 20, 2009, 02:11:44 PM
QuoteWhat's the catchment for SW Select? Ahoghill, Rasharkin etc?

I think it'll be us (Ahoghill/Gaeil Chluana), Randalstown, Ballymena and Rasharkin.

As I've said before though, we weren't in favour of it, though now that the team has been entered, I'm not sure what'll happen.

I thought Glenariff were going to enter the Intermediate Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 20, 2009, 02:13:47 PM
Well hopefully the selects are taken with some seriousness and they can provide the two teams with a good challenge.

Interesting draw alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 20, 2009, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 20, 2009, 02:13:47 PM
Well hopefully the selects are taken with some seriousness and they can provide the two teams with a good challenge.

Interesting draw alright.

Not so handy on the oul compucalculatator. After struggling for 10 mins trying to open the championship draw, I've worked out i don't have power point on the yoke. Could some kind person cut and paste the draw for me here or give me a (complete) idiots guide to downloading the necessary software.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 20, 2009, 06:35:19 PM
Antrim SHC

Preliminary Round
1. N Antrim v Ballycastle
2. Loughgiel v St John's
3 .Cushendall v S Antrim

Qtr Finals
Rossa v 2
1 v Dunloy
Gort na Mona v 3
Glenariff v S W Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2009, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 20, 2009, 02:13:47 PM
Well hopefully the selects are taken with some seriousness and they can provide the two teams with a good challenge.

Interesting draw alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 20, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
surprised at the draw, Cushendall will get some game against the Belfast selected players from intermediate and junior level.

thought Glenariffe were playing Intermediate, some good teams in it though, ourselves Tir na og St Paul's and a fancied Clooney Gaels

St Johns play Loughgiel, and a young rossa team play the winners from that round

any dates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2009, 08:55:31 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 20, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
surprised at the draw, Cushendall will get some game against the Belfast selected players from intermediate and junior level.

thought Glenariffe were playing Intermediate, some good teams in it though, ourselves Tir na og St Paul's and a fancied Clooney Gaels

St Johns play Loughgiel, and a young rossa team play the winners from that round

any dates?
Aye that's what i was trying to say in my blank post above! I reckon the Oisins will get a decent game off that select especially in Ahoghill turn out some of their good players. The Dall game does no one any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 20, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
belfast select...... christ i had a team written out but it was mostly galls men and the herrons and some from St Treseas and one from Sarsfields maybe two from st Pauls, one from st endas, or are they north antrim ;)    aggies have maybe one but i'm losing the will. the DALL hammer them         
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 20, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 20, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
belfast select...... christ i had a team written out but it was mostly galls men and the herrons and some from St Treseas and one from Sarsfields maybe two from st Pauls, one from st endas, or are they north antrim ;)    aggies have maybe one but i'm losing the will. the DALL hammer them         

let us know what your select was milltown? i wouldn't have a clue about who would play for the divisional teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on January 20, 2009, 09:52:06 PM
Very interesting senior draw; i would say Dunloy are quietly satisfied and Loughgiel might be nervous. They have a tough enough route just get to the final and then they can start thinking about 7 in a row  ;)

Fair play to Glenariffe for staying in the senior championship rather than droppping down and now they have a chance of getting to a semi final. This can only bring their players on further.

Seems to be mixed opinion (what else would you expect with Antrim people!!) on the divisional teams. Credit to the county though for coming up with the idea but they have to stick with it for a 3 or a 5 year period and give it a chance. Theres no point in giving up on it after this year if results are poor. Other people have mentioned Cork and Kerry as examples of where it does work but they have been doing it for a lot of years. Two things are definitely needed for it to work:
1. The county board will need to have a bit of vision and organisational skills to sort out a manageable calendar. I wonder will they do the shocking thing and ask for advice from a Cork, Kerry or Limerick board, and
2. All the clubs with players involved will need to buy into it.

I thought there were a few older posters on here who would remember that amalgamtion teams were tried in the 80's (ok not divisional teams but still) to varying degrees of success. I remember Ballycastle beating a city based team who i think were called Sliabh Dubh and then of course we had an amalgamtion team winning the senior championship as well. I think they were called Loughgiel but their star player was from a junior club!!!!  :P

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 21, 2009, 10:40:46 AM
What way will St Johns measure up this year then, will they make any progress from last year or previous few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 21, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on January 20, 2009, 09:52:06 PM
Very interesting senior draw; i would say Dunloy are quietly satisfied and Loughgiel might be nervous. They have a tough enough route just get to the final and then they can start thinking about 7 in a row  ;)

Fair play to Glenariffe for staying in the senior championship rather than droppping down and now they have a chance of getting to a semi final. This can only bring their players on further.

Seems to be mixed opinion (what else would you expect with Antrim people!!) on the divisional teams. Credit to the county though for coming up with the idea but they have to stick with it for a 3 or a 5 year period and give it a chance. Theres no point in giving up on it after this year if results are poor. Other people have mentioned Cork and Kerry as examples of where it does work but they have been doing it for a lot of years. Two things are definitely needed for it to work:
1. The county board will need to have a bit of vision and organisational skills to sort out a manageable calendar. I wonder will they do the shocking thing and ask for advice from a Cork, Kerry or Limerick board, and
2. All the clubs with players involved will need to buy into it.

I thought there were a few older posters on here who would remember that amalgamtion teams were tried in the 80's (ok not divisional teams but still) to varying degrees of success. I remember Ballycastle beating a city based team who i think were called Sliabh Dubh and then of course we had an amalgamtion team winning the senior championship as well. I think they were called Loughgiel but their star player was from a junior club!!!!  :P



Armoy were involved in a few of those earlier amalgamations which never really worked in the eighties. As for the loughgiel amalgamation winning the county title the ballycastle team of the seventies and eighties had one or two armoy men on it. People in glass houses etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 21, 2009, 03:45:58 PM
Its an interesting draw alright, and if loughgiel are for winning a championship they will have to do it the hard way, probaly having to play St John, Rossa, Cushendall then a final.

Might possibly be the draw they wanted at this stage as there performances against Cushendall in recent finals has been very poor so if they are for winning a final they will prob want to play either Dunloy or one of the expected weaker teams. 

Love knock out championship and although i'll admit at this stage it would still appear to between the big three i think Ballycastle with Neal McAuley flying could make an impact and the Johnnies always have potential to cause an upset, as do Rossa.

Think the co board, or my old club mate Skull deserve a bit of credit for trying something alternate with the divisional teams and whilst i expect a certain degree of apathy in its initial year if one of the divisional teams makes an impact, someone gets recognised by S&W or players feel they benefited from playing at a higher level on a competitive basis then it could take of.

Nothing ventured nothing gained,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 21, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Max

Good to see the rivalry isnt dead, you waded straight into loughgiel there opening old wounds!

What is the situation with managers out around the country for the incoming year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 21, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
NAG

don't think the rivalry will ever die ... ;)

far better talking about your opponents ills than your own
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 21, 2009, 04:10:06 PM
Who is taking the reigns this year then Max and what about your neighbours are they coming back with anything this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 21, 2009, 04:32:23 PM
No men in yet, AGM is this Sunday, heard plenty of rumours but nothing confirmed, too be fair the three men stepping down will be hard to replace and only lost to one Ulster team in two years, just a pity it was loughgiel, and one of the defeats was championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 21, 2009, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 21, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Max

Good to see the rivalry isnt dead, you waded straight into loughgiel there opening old wounds!

What is the situation with managers out around the country for the incoming year?

old??
Rubbing salt in the open wound surely. Need the ould niggle to keep it interesting.  :). The bodies will still be a threat.

Hey max enough of the old
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 21, 2009, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 20, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 20, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
belfast select...... christ i had a team written out but it was mostly galls men and the herrons and some from St Treseas and one from Sarsfields maybe two from st Pauls, one from st endas, or are they north antrim ;)    aggies have maybe one but i'm losing the will. the DALL hammer them         

let us know what your select was milltown? i wouldn't have a clue about who would play for the divisional teams


Lamhs,    Brendan Herron, Michael Herron, Conor McConville, Chris Tumelty

McDermott's    Thomas Maguire

Sarsfields,    Kevin Ward, Kevin McKearnan junior

St Endas    Philip Curran

St Galls,    Conor Mc Gourty, Kieran Mc Gourty, Sean Mc Areavey
Johnny Flynn Karl Stewart Ciaran O'Grady Aodhan Gallagher

St Pauls,    Declan Gamble Fintan Gamble Ciaran Killyleagh

St Teresa's,    Philip Maguire, Conor McGoldrick

St Agnes,    Declan McLarnon

I could have put more on from my club, but it's down to the manager and whether the players make themselves available


Have played against all these players and watched so many games over the years and these would make a fair enough team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on January 21, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on January 21, 2009, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on January 20, 2009, 09:52:06 PM
Very interesting senior draw; i would say Dunloy are quietly satisfied and Loughgiel might be nervous. They have a tough enough route just get to the final and then they can start thinking about 7 in a row  ;)

Fair play to Glenariffe for staying in the senior championship rather than droppping down and now they have a chance of getting to a semi final. This can only bring their players on further.

Seems to be mixed opinion (what else would you expect with Antrim people!!) on the divisional teams. Credit to the county though for coming up with the idea but they have to stick with it for a 3 or a 5 year period and give it a chance. Theres no point in giving up on it after this year if results are poor. Other people have mentioned Cork and Kerry as examples of where it does work but they have been doing it for a lot of years. Two things are definitely needed for it to work:
1. The county board will need to have a bit of vision and organisational skills to sort out a manageable calendar. I wonder will they do the shocking thing and ask for advice from a Cork, Kerry or Limerick board, and
2. All the clubs with players involved will need to buy into it.

I thought there were a few older posters on here who would remember that amalgamtion teams were tried in the 80's (ok not divisional teams but still) to varying degrees of success. I remember Ballycastle beating a city based team who i think were called Sliabh Dubh and then of course we had an amalgamtion team winning the senior championship as well. I think they were called Loughgiel but their star player was from a junior club!!!!  :P



Armoy were involved in a few of those earlier amalgamations which never really worked in the eighties. As for the loughgiel amalgamation winning the county title the ballycastle team of the seventies and eighties had one or two armoy men on it. People in glass houses etc

Ah now scb don't be getting hot under the collar in January over a bit of slagging!!! Just cos your annoyed at drawing the Faughs in the 1st round of the intermediate dont be taking it out on the rest of us.
Title: Monarchs of the Glens
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 21, 2009, 10:29:39 PM
TWENTY years past his hurling prime, in a bar in Armoy village, Olcan McFetridge declares that life is "wonderful". He beams with good cheer, laughs frequently during conversation, and betrays no discernible trace of bitterness or regret. But he's not the version of 'Cloot' McFetridge we once knew. Back then hurling made his heart race and, now, he finds it hard to detect the faintest pulse.

It is easier to convey McFetridge's indifference to the game he once loved than it is to comprehend it. He grew up in an estate a couple of minutes from the Armoy GAA pitch and immediately yielded to its charms. Armoy was a modest club most at home in the intermediate ranks but through Antrim he made his name. He lived for hurling and this month 20 years ago he became one of four Antrim players nominated for an All-Star -- more than Kilkenny, Cork, Waterford and Clare. Those were the dizzy times in which he prospered, before injury finished him.

Antrim would go on to win one All-Star for the '88 season, awarded to Ciaran Barr, but by the end of the county's unforgettable championship of 1989, McFetridge had done enough to earn his. In the storied slaying of Offaly he was one of their chief assassins. Hurling devoured his spare time. And now, oddly, he feels nothing. Whatever was there is gone. He knows it's strange but that's the way it is.

He is not involved in the club and rarely goes to a local match. In the past he served as chairman, juvenile coach, sat on various committees, and played until his late 30s. Then the fire went away. A few years ago he was asked to manage a county development squad and quit after a few training sessions; he had no feel for it.

"I said 'what am I doing here?' I lost all my motivation basically. I left it all behind. People still want to talk to me about it. Sometimes the TV is on in the bar and a game might come on. Like, the Offaly game came on one night on TnaG and I'd no interest in it. I never mention hurling at all. People are coming in talking hurling, talking hurling all the time. I rarely get involved in a hurling conversation."

He used to work on building sites as a plasterer but more recently he has packed that in because of a bad back and now runs a pub, McClafferty's in his native village among the Glens. On a Wednesday afternoon in January, there are a few regulars huddled around the warm fire. The pace is decidedly pedestrian and he likes it that way. He had it hectic for long enough.

He and his wife Helen had their first child, Erin, when he was 41, four years ago. Last autumn, their second girl, Emer, turned one. "All my time goes into them two wee girls," he says affectionately, "they're very special to me. Maybe if they got interested in camogie I might get the buzz again but I wouldn't force them into anything. Just let them do their own wee thing.

"My wife often said to me to get back involved, but I said there is no point unless you're going into it properly, (otherwise) you are wasting everyone's time. I intend to put a lot of time into the family, because to me, at this stage of my life, it is about family really. 'Cos my sporting time is over."

* * * * *

ONLY a few miles away, in the village of Cloghmills, Niall Patterson is standing behind the counter of the family shop he's been looking after since his father died 17 years ago. His hair is greyer and he has put on more weight but he's still recognisable from the days when he was another of those identifiable characters who helped electrify the hurling world, prompting Nicky English to admit after one league encounter: "Those lads can hurl."

English would prove their nemesis in the '89 All-Ireland final, Antrim's first since 1943, with a record score of 2-12. But the respect they gained during those years was genuine and will stand firm as they grow older and people's memories fade. Patterson was always an improbably large figure, his weight veering around 18 stones during his best years with Antrim. He drops in to see Cloot occasionally when he's on the road. But, like Cloot, he has lost contact with many of the team that Jim Nelson moulded into a winning concern.

This year there's talk of a reunion to mark the 20th anniversary of Antrim hurling's greatest year. Cloot hadn't heard of it but he likes the idea. During conversation with Patterson, his door swings open and, like a grand stage entrance, in steps an ebullient Sambo McNaughton to renew brief acquaintance after several months. His hands are blackened from coal he's picked up in Dunloy.

Sambo has never let go. Like Dominic 'Woody' McKinley, the joint manager of the Antrim senior hurlers, he was unable to break completely free. It had him hooked. A couple of years ago he asked Patterson to come in as county goalkeeping coach but he didn't have the time. He has also, like managers before him, asked Cloot to help out but was told that the heart wasn't in it.

In the personal notes accompanying the Antrim players for the 1989 All-Ireland final, Patterson, now 47, is listed as a musician. He has been playing music since he was 14, guitar and keyboard, and last March he parted ways in a duet that had worked together for 14 years. He was doing too many nights and couldn't sustain it. Now, part of another two-man band called Beezer, he usually plays Saturday nights and has regained his appetite for stage performance.

He had an offer to join one of the country's "biggest showbands" which was a lifetime ambition but it came too late. Like Cloot, he has a young family, three girls all younger than eight, and that is where much of his focus has relocated. In recent years, though, he started to coach goalkeepers at Loughgiel, the club he won an All-Ireland with in 1983.

"I had good reactions, good reflexes," he says, (but) as I got older I got slower and that's why I quit (at 30)." Weight became a problem then? "It was, yeah, a constant fighting battle. The family was all the same. I trained hard, I was fit, even though I was big. Jim (Nelson) would have me doing this and that. The best I got to was 15-16 stone. I started helping out DD Quinn, our goalkeeper in Loughgiel, but I had taken him as far as I could -- the game had progressed so much since I played. I got on the blower and phoned Donal óg Cusack and a few others, picking their brains. They said Donal óg might be distant but he was first class. He gave me a list of what they do and I had to say, 'no, that's plenty'. All the 'keepers were good, Clinton Hennessy as well."

Unlike McFetridge, Patterson retains his love of hurling and has stayed a passionate follower. There was a seven-year hiatus, however, when he stayed away from all games, club and county. Soon after retirement he went to Casement Park with an uncle who was virtually immobile and they were prevented from taking the car into the ground. The official insisted on players and mentors only. Having just retired he felt grievously let down. Then one day on a whim he went up to see Loughgiel play and that ended his exile.

"We had a team going over several years that could have won an All-Ireland; we were capable of it," he recalls, reeling off matches; the 1-24 scored against Cork in the 1986 All-Ireland semi-final; the 1-19 to 2-18 defeat by Kilkenny in the semi-final of 1991; the epic win over Offaly; the scalps they took in the league. "It should have kept going from then. Our biggest problem was (that) we didn't have a Club Tyrone type thing (to raise finance). We need the minors in Leinster as well as the seniors. It's all money."

* * * * *

HAVING been squeezed out by Kilkenny in 1991, with McFetridge injured, Antrim were never the same force again. The next year Down won their first Ulster title since 1941 and while Antrim regained the provincial title in '93, they were crushed by Kilkenny, collapsing in the final quarter. McFetridge made a comeback after injury but wasn't the same player. Doctors had repeatedly told him to retire. "I wasn't a rebel but I wasn't going to be told what to do. To retire at 26, I wasn't going to do that."

He sidestepped surgery for a back injury and instead his career was put on life-support: physio and patchwork improvisation extended his Antrim playing days. He believes that going back in '93 was a mistake. Kilkenny routed them 4-18 to 1-9. The next year Antrim lost 0-11 to 2-23 to Limerick. They were finished.

McFetridge remained wedded to hurling and took the county minors for two years. In 1995, they lost to Kilkenny by five points, a highly respectable showing, with their top scorer Brian McFall going on to feature for the seniors in later years. This was a team that grew up having seen the exploits of men like McFetridge, Patterson, Sambo. But management wasn't an easy ride in Antrim any more than playing.

"That was a struggle the whole way," recalls McFetridge. "You were shifted from pillar to post for training sessions, you didn't know where you were going next, and you were fighting with the county board looking for this and that. I remember one time we were playing in the Leinster league in Belfast, and we couldn't get a cup of tea for the young fellas. And a game in county Down where we paid for their food out of our own pockets -- that's no way to operate.

"I remember one time, too, we got the bus from here, a minibus, to Belfast. The Troubles were going at the time, and we got in the gate at Casement and a couple of boys came to the gates and ordered the bus man to drive the bus out on to the Anderstown Road. And they burned the bus. I remember it well.

"They needed to burn a bus and that was it. There was a lot of trouble going on at that particular time; maybe we were silly going in. We went ahead and trained and had to get a way back. Three or four black taxis picked us up and took us out of there and our driver arranged to have another minibus sent down to collect us."

What did the '89 team leave behind? "Antrim didn't build on it at all. Possibly, if they (county board) had been doing their job properly, money wouldn't have been a problem because for five or six years Antrim were fairly successful. They could have built on it. They could have got more sponsorship.

"I know Sambo and Woody will do everything they can and if they can't make people move, nobody can; if they can't get the county board into their way of thinking, nobody can."

* * * * *

PATTERSON hasn't been to Croke Park since he retired, chiefly because he was busy with the band and the shop. "I'd love to go in and see the museum," he says boyishly. He remembers the crowds that greeted them in all the hurling villages of north Antrim when they had their homecoming after the '89 All-Ireland final. "It hurt us, because we didn't do them justice. But that All-Ireland, it's an experience that will be taken to the grave."

When they got back to Glenavy that September it was a couple of hours past midnight. Cloot got up on the stage and played the accordion. He's asked what he treasures most and it is the "camaraderie" and the respect players had for one another. He is still in contact with Brian Whelahan and in 2000 a group of 22 arrived in Birr for Cloot's stag.

Patterson remembers a game in Loughgiel a while back when a few young lads came into the shop and asked who he would be rooting for. That's how little some youngsters know of the legacy he and his team-mates left behind. It was like they never existed.

McFetridge feels he has emptied all his reserves of energy and interest. A few years ago he was sitting down to watch the hurling final between Cork and Kilkenny when his young daughter came in and asked to be taken to the park for a walk. "The ball was just about to be thrown in and she came in I said 'right, come on.'

"If you went into my house you wouldn't think I played hurling, because you'd see nothing there that resembles hurling. Like, everything I got, strips, tracksuits and what not, I gave that all away. After my last game I swapped jerseys with DJ Carey; some young fella asked me if I could get it. I said I'd try. I gave it to the young lad who wanted it. It was just the way I was."

He played his last club game several years ago. After games he'd need his late mother to tie his boots the next morning, such was the jarring pain and stiffness that would follow. More recently he took part in a charity hurling match. "I told them after that if they came up with any more bright ideas like that, just ask me for a donation (laughs). It was a bad idea."

How about the girls then, will they play? "I don't know. I wouldn't say no, and I will get them a hurling stick. Sometimes there when I go to matches, including juvenile matches, and see the abuse that's hurled in over the wire. Some of the senior matches it's ridiculous the stuff that's shouted in. Like, I'm no prude; I can do bad language myself. But I think some of it is really, really vindictive. It's not even to do with how you're playing, but to do with who you are and who your family are, and your ancestors were. I don't want them involved in that.

"It kind of goes on everywhere, (and) not just Antrim. That would turn me right away. Like, when the oldest girl was eight months, I stopped at Ballycastle to watch a match, we called in as we were passing by, and stood for five minutes and the language was unbelievable, it was just unbelievable. And I thought to myself, though she wasn't picking it up, I can't even listen to that. We got back into the car and drove on."

But, in time, his girls will surely bow to curiosity and enquire of the days when all he heard was the warmly voiced appreciation of his people, and the exultant release of their primal scream when they liberated themselves of their chains and announced to the world that they could hurl with the best of them.
Copyright Sunday Independent *

* I don't buy or read that document, butterknife told me about it.

1991 was the one that got away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 21, 2009, 10:44:01 PM
I wasn't there. I chose instead to listen on a radio in the home of hurling.

The Trip To Tipp.

Acts like Steve Earl, Nancy Griffith, Transvision Vamp, Tiberious Minnows and The Pogues got priority that weekend instead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 22, 2009, 10:34:38 AM
Does anyone else feel a sense of let down at the attitude of the two boys in the article above? I had read it at the time and felt a sense of regret. I am not getting at the two individuals at all but is this part of our problem that this type of character in our county becomes disillusioned with our game so much that they end up walking away from it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 22, 2009, 12:23:27 PM
Felt abit like that myself NAG, ultimately it was their choice to walk away but felt it was a pity. In fairness Clute would done abit round Armoy when he finished Hurling, Niall Patterson less so. There must be more to why they took themselves away from Hurling than what is in the article. Every club is littered with examples like this. For all the abuse S&W get....they have put alot back into their club & county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 22, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
Two Hands yes thats the kind of after taste I was left with for all the stick deserved or not that we give S&W on here we would all stand over their comittment to Antrim Hurling.

These were two guys are from our most successful team and they are gone from the game completely, I know that there is natural wastage in every walk of life but it just seems worse in this case for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2009, 12:49:51 PM
It is sad really but it happens everywhere - people play the game but once they can't play any more aren't prepared to put anything back into it.

That's not to disparage their character because these two guys obviously served Antrim very well and deserve the utmost respect for it.

Some people just don't have enough interest to put something back in.

91 was horrendous - so close. Who'd have thought after 89 and that we'd be sitting where we are now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 22, 2009, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 22, 2009, 10:34:38 AM
Does anyone else feel a sense of let down at the attitude of the two boys in the article above? I had read it at the time and felt a sense of regret. I am not getting at the two individuals at all but is this part of our problem that this type of character in our county becomes disillusioned with our game so much that they end up walking away from it?

I certainly have a sense of regret about the lack of involvement, but I don't know if I'm entitled to feel let down by the two boys. Each of them gave 15 to 20 odd years of their life to something essentially for free - are we entitled to expect that they should keep at it indefinitely? I know many have (to their great credit, I might add), but I don't think we are entitled to expect automatic commitment from former (great) players.

As a couple of the posters have said, it highlights the commitment that Sambo, Woody and indeed many others have to the game. Managing Antrim isn't exactly the plum job in hurling and I can only begin to imagine the commitment involved (by the players as well). Have certainly heard the stories about the lengths to which S & W go for hurling and they don't do it for the benefit of the "constructive" criticism that comes their way as a result!

Whatever about Cloot, is Niall not involved a bit with the Loughgiel goalkeepers these days?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 22, 2009, 02:08:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 22, 2009, 12:49:51 PM
It is sad really but it happens everywhere - people play the game but once they can't play any more aren't prepared to put anything back into it.

That's not to disparage their character because these two guys obviously served Antrim very well and deserve the utmost respect for it.

Some people just don't have enough interest to put something back in.

91 was horrendous - so close. Who'd have thought after 89 and that we'd be sitting where we are now!

I find it just so happens that those who put the most in as players through their learning/earning phase of their lives seem to be lambasted by those who didn't put in nearly the same commitment through those years yet once they retire and try to go about starting a family, trying to make a career or earn a few bob, they're putting nothing back in. Whilst i agree to a point that as an ex player you should try to take time to coach, referee or whatever but not to the detriment to your personal life or home life which has already suffered.

The one thing I do find depressing and is a bane of mine is the amount of personal abuse players, managers and referee's are subjected to by ignoramus 'supporters' who more often than not never ever played to any serious level yet because they pay a few bob at the gate and they believe this gives them the right to verbally abuse someone.
we'd an incident with one of our 'fans' (fits my above description BTW) started abusing Ray Matthews during a league game vrs Cushendall and thankfully the wee w**ker was shut up by those around him, but i'd of barred him from our pitch as we can do without that shite. It's not good for the game and puts decent people off getting involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
Cloot packed it in with us about 5 years ago, I think one year as chairman finished him although he had been at it almost non stop for 25 years at the time so fair dos. As has been said earlier the endless grind of keeping a small club running does keep getting people down after a while. Added to that we went from being a reasonably succesful intermediate/Div 2 side on the pitch to a poor intermediate/div 3 side which gets most people down. Cloot was player manager in 2000 when we lost to st pauls in the intermediate final. They were the only side to beat us that year in div 2 and champ final. If we had won that the team might have held together as it was a number of players left/ quit for a variety of reasons and the team went on the slide. Cloot continued on the committee for a couple of years ending up as chairman although he always preferred the playing field to the meeting room and eventually packed it in but as I say after 25+ years and probably 1000+ games for us he owes no one in armoy anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 21, 2009, 10:39:15 PM
'91 - I have the video. We play it at wakes. "FFS, stop whinging, it could be worse. Put on the '91 video and we'll all have a cry".

Dessie Donnelly's wonder goal.
Rogie getting whacked up the bake and Eamon from Creggan (the Moor and the Bog) saying that the ball was there, when it wasn't.
Jim Close running about like an eejit and not able to pick the bucking ball up.
Sambo having a blinder.
Eamon Morrissey leaving Rogie for dead and burying it in the back of the net.
Thon Stoop doctor getting a yellow card.

Ah...great stuff.

Great match and chance missed. Was at it and thought antrim ran out of legs a little although the squad was badly weakened by the abscence of the dunloy 4 if anyone can remember that episode!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2009, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
Cloot packed it in with us about 5 years ago, I think one year as chairman finished him although he had been at it almost non stop for 25 years at the time so fair dos. As has been said earlier the endless grind of keeping a small club running does keep getting people down after a while. Added to that we went from being a reasonably succesful intermediate/Div 2 side on the pitch to a poor intermediate/div 3 side which gets most people down. Cloot was player manager in 2000 when we lost to st pauls in the intermediate final. They were the only side to beat us that year in div 2 and champ final. If we had won that the team might have held together as it was a number of players left/ quit for a variety of reasons and the team went on the slide. Cloot continued on the committee for a couple of years ending up as chairman although he always preferred the playing field to the meeting room and eventually packed it in but as I say after 25+ years and probably 1000+ games for us he owes no one in armoy anything.

1999 that would have been SCB as the world famous Glenariffe Oisins won it in 2000 after a titanic tussle with the Carey dungers...........
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Post by: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 07:41:44 PM
You may well be right with the years minder, your final against the dungers was up in armoy, remember it well, good match. Dominic Kearns finally got his medal at a ripe old age, Johnny Tosh was very good that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2009, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 07:41:44 PM
You may well be right with the years minder, your final against the dungers was up in armoy, remember it well, good match. Dominic Kearns finally got his medal at a ripe old age, Johnny Tosh was very good that day.
Kearns also played when we beat Carey in the 1988 Intermediate Final.
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Post by: NAG on January 23, 2009, 12:13:50 PM
Just had a flick throught the guestbook on the county web site, I am never on there but had a few minutes there and was checking out the story on the new development and the support letters.

God it is awful, the attitude of the mod stinks to high heaven, never thought it was as bad as it is, def doesnt show the county off in a good light would be better off without it if thats the type of response that we are going to be protraying.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on January 24, 2009, 11:24:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 22, 2009, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on January 22, 2009, 07:41:44 PM
You may well be right with the years minder, your final against the dungers was up in armoy, remember it well, good match. Dominic Kearns finally got his medal at a ripe old age, Johnny Tosh was very good that day.
Kearns also played when we beat Carey in the 1988 Intermediate Final.
I thought that was 87 in Cushendall. Must have been season of 87-88.
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Post by: milltown row on January 24, 2009, 11:45:05 PM
Cushendall beat Westmeath today 2-13 to 2-9 and a good performance to boot i hear.

hope they put in a good show against De La Salle
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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 12:27:03 PM
Big day, today. Maybe the biggest game of the year. whats the predicts for it? what way are teams lining out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2009, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 12:27:03 PM
Big day, today. Maybe the biggest game of the year. whats the predicts for it? what way are teams lining out?
How is it the biggest game of the year? I would say it is one of the least important games of the year
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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 12:49:12 PM
A good showing today will give the lads, young lads, a boost that they can take with them to dublin. Its a win win problem they have, If they win happy days! If lose they get beat by the mighty cats....

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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 01:55:02 PM
can someone put updates of the score?
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2009, 03:51:06 PM
Any word?
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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 04:08:31 PM
2-12 1-20  to the cats.

respectable lookin but havent heard any reports yet tho
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Post by: ExiledGael on January 25, 2009, 05:02:41 PM
Presume that's a BBC report, I thought Richie Hogan hit around 1-10 but not exactly sure. He could and should have had three goals, one effort hitting the post and running along the line before the keeper got down to it. Paddy Hogan also seen his penalty saved by O'Connell after Richie was hauled down when clean through. Thought Jackie Tyrrell and Richie looked a class apart, for Antrim Shields started well but faded somewhat, he hit an excellent sideline cut over and Antrim led 5-2 early on. Kieran McGourty was the pick of an over-worked defence but nobody had an answer to Richie Hogan's sheer pace and fetching ability. Good to see a big crowd, must have been at least three thousand. Michael Herron hit a cracking goal for the biggest roar of the day and at least make it competitive but in truth Kilkenny could go up and score with relative ease whenever needed. PJ O'Connell scored Antrim's first goal, flicking on a long delivery past Herity. Dan McKillop also looked busy when he came on and hit two points, pity Eddie Brennan didn't come off the bench and Tommy Walsh didn't start for some reason after being named at midfield in the programme/page.
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 25, 2009, 05:29:19 PM
Gorts update anyone??
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Post by: milltown row on January 25, 2009, 05:40:40 PM
played at a slow enough pace Antrim challenged for most parts in the game, was pleased with the attitude of the players. westmeath next and they should really be beating these team well. promotion from div 2 and beating Dublin should be the Goals for the year. not the run out today

gorts were beat by 9 i think

1-7 to 3-10 i think
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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 06:46:25 PM
what way did the two teams line out?
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 25, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Tommy Walsh's uncle died, Eddie Brennan & Martin Comeford werent there so the three of them didnt travel...which was a pity for the autograph hunters if not the Antrim defence.

Kieran McGourty & Neal McAuley were the pick of the Antrim defence, McGourty done well enough when moved to Full Back after 15 minutes or so..anyone would have struggled with Richie Hogan with the form he was in..some of his touches were superb, his timing in the air was first class. McGourty will hardly mark a better player all year.

Up front we struggled as usual...2 great goals. PJ O'Connell's flick was brilliant, he was about unlucky to be taken off as at that stage Paddy Doc & Martin Scullion were v.poor,as was Pinky.

Happy enough with the performance as at least 3 Antrim players are regulars for their club. The effort was their but it helped that Kilkenny never really ran away with it at any stage but always looked comfortable enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 25, 2009, 09:07:17 PM
I think youse are being a bit harsh boys. First things first Antrim were competitive throughout and looked at a decent level of fitness. Antrim hit a lot of wides in the first half and should have been three or four clear at half time. At half time Copy must have put a rocket up someone as Ritchie Hogan was unhurlable in the second half, pure class. I was quite critical of Antrims half forward line for lack of scores but they tackled hard and won a lot of possession and anyway 2-12 is not bad scoring against a back line with Tennyson, Hogan, Delany et al. Its a lot more than Waterford managed against them in September. Antrim are far from the finished article but ( hopefully) moving in the right direction. The same level of commitment and performance in the national league and we will not be beat too often.

HS agree about the atmosphere, Antrim must have the dullest supporters in Ireland
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Post by: youngfella on January 25, 2009, 10:33:49 PM
Whats the score with ryan mc garry, didnt he just win player of the year now hes on the bench! Are they saving him for the big games!!??

how were the young guns today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: the colonel on January 25, 2009, 09:55:39 PM
seamus dobbin is he the one from loughgiel who is still a minor? bit strange that he is on the panel. how did dan mckillop play when he came on. can't say i think he is anywhere near the standard and wouldn't figure when the dall boys are back.
is chrissy o connell getting games for the sake of it, hardly has passed mcgarry as number 1



What is the standard required though? Is it to match up favourably with the best down south? If so we dont have anyone of that standard. S & W maybe think he can contribute in a way you dont.
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Post by: maxpower on January 26, 2009, 09:58:17 AM
from watching and Dan at club level he has to be one of the most improved players in Antrim in recent years, always very industrious but adding a few scores.

Seems a respectable result, and good to see McGourty hurling well, i thought he would be an effective wing forward playing deep,
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Post by: NAG on January 26, 2009, 10:07:41 AM
Max, may have imrpoved but still seriously short of this standard IMO. Very undustrious hard worker but limited at the same time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
Obviously i am going to stick up for a clubmate, within reason. Dans main strengths are his ability to win the ball and his workrate. If he is able to win the ball and hand it off to our more "gifted" players we will be grand . Another thing about him is he wont go hiding if he is having a poor game & he will not stop playing after 45 minutes if Antrim are getting a tanking. It takes all sorts for a team to function successfully.
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Post by: NAG on January 26, 2009, 10:37:27 AM
Minder dont think that I am getting at Dan, I am impressed with his attitude and work rate and yes it takes all types of player to make up a successful team. But I think at this level we need more from our players, when need them all to win their own ball and going forward we need them to have the ability to take scores.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 10:43:41 AM
Quote from: NAG on January 26, 2009, 10:37:27 AM
Minder dont think that I am getting at Dan, I am impressed with his attitude and work rate and yes it takes all types of player to make up a successful team. But I think at this level we need more from our players, when need them all to win their own ball and going forward we need them to have the ability to take scores.

Dont think you are getting at him at all, just offering an opinion. I agree his stickwork isnt his strongpoint but we have to remember the rest of the panel have not covered themselves in glory the last couple of years and so maybe Dan is worth a punt. In any case i dont think he will be starting with the strongest 15 but would be worth throwing on if the game needs changing.
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Positives

1. Thought we were reasonably competitive and kept going throughout (unfortunately not always a given with Antrim)

2. Was very impressed with both Mc Gourty and McAuley in defence (McKeegan under threat at centre half?)

3. Took some very well worked scores (Herron's goal was a clinker). One of the points at the end was worked well from one end of the field to the other.

4. Did alright in the air against KK (was at the Dublin match the previous week - KK totally dominant under the dropping ball)

5. Big crowd showed up.

Negatives

a. I know its a bit unreasonable to say it this early in the year, but KK's touch was far superior. Off the top of my head, two KK points came from foostering by C Herron and Kettle.

b. Missed a lot of very scorable frees.

c. Fair bit of hit and hope balls into the full forward line.

d. Big crowd sat there is silence for most of the game. For Christ's sake, what is it with Antrim crowds? You would have thought Herron's goal to level the game with about 15 to go would have provoked something, but after about 2 minutes it was back to the library again!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 26, 2009, 11:26:23 AM
There wasnt much on the subs when you look down that list. Dan done well when he came on, & even caught a ball off JJ Delaney(I think it was him). Micky Kettle came on for Neilly McGarry who got a yellow card for taking down Richie Hogan for the penalty.

Agree with the Cloot, the crowd was very muted, you would have thought that after his goal, Micko's punching the air & grabbing the crest would have got the crowd going  ;).

Apart from the Cushendall boys & Paddy Richmond to came back, is there any one to come back in. Were Joey Scullion & James McKeague not in the squad recently??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 26, 2009, 12:17:13 PM
I hear that PR has declared himself not available for this year for the county. Might be wrong but heard that from a reliable source.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on January 26, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Positives

1. Thought we were reasonably competitive and kept going throughout (unfortunately not always a given with Antrim)

2. Was very impressed with both Mc Gourty and McAuley in defence (McKeegan under threat at centre half?)


Good to see McAuley back in the squad, hope for his sake and antrims his injury has cleared up. Where abouts was he playing, imo he is a deadly centre back.
Mc Gourty is a good clever who can read the game well, good to see him getting a game, hope he sticks at the hurlin and hope sambo sticks with him.
Were abouts is Hippy?


Who was hitting the frees? how many were missed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
Always thought Ciaran Mc Gourty was the best hurler out of the three, and there never seems to be any oul bulls*it with him, i just hope he does not listen to his club manager too much and he could have a good season with Antrim.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on January 26, 2009, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Positives

1. Thought we were reasonably competitive and kept going throughout (unfortunately not always a given with Antrim)

2. Was very impressed with both Mc Gourty and McAuley in defence (McKeegan under threat at centre half?)

3. Took some very well worked scores (Herron's goal was a clinker). One of the points at the end was worked well from one end of the field to the other.

4. Did alright in the air against KK (was at the Dublin match the previous week - KK totally dominant under the dropping ball)

5. Big crowd showed up.

Negatives

a. I know its a bit unreasonable to say it this early in the year, but KK's touch was far superior. Off the top of my head, two KK points came from foostering by C Herron and Kettle.

b. Missed a lot of very scorable frees.

c. Fair bit of hit and hope balls into the full forward line.

d. Big crowd sat there is silence for most of the game. For Christ's sake, what is it with Antrim crowds? You would have thought Herron's goal to level the game with about 15 to go would have provoked something, but after about 2 minutes it was back to the library again!


A lot of them didn't get involved as they were probably just there to see "possibly the greatest team ever to play hurling". And Kilkenny  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: youngfella on January 26, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Positives

1. Thought we were reasonably competitive and kept going throughout (unfortunately not always a given with Antrim)

2. Was very impressed with both Mc Gourty and McAuley in defence (McKeegan under threat at centre half?)


Good to see McAuley back in the squad, hope for his sake and antrims his injury has cleared up. Where abouts was he playing, imo he is a deadly centre back.

He was playing centre half back.

Mc Gourty is a good clever who can read the game well, good to see him getting a game, hope he sticks at the hurlin and hope sambo sticks with him.
Were abouts is Hippy?


Who was hitting the frees? how many were missed?

Shields was hitting the frees. I was very late into the game but from other contributors he missed a good few in the first half and 2/3 (albeit from distance). Who else is an obvious candidate to take the frees.

Jeez, hope Paddy Richmond comes back - could have done with him in the full forward line y'day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 26, 2009, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: youngfella on January 26, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Positives

1. Thought we were reasonably competitive and kept going throughout (unfortunately not always a given with Antrim)

2. Was very impressed with both Mc Gourty and McAuley in defence (McKeegan under threat at centre half?)


Good to see McAuley back in the squad, hope for his sake and antrims his injury has cleared up. Where abouts was he playing, imo he is a deadly centre back.
Mc Gourty is a good clever who can read the game well, good to see him getting a game, hope he sticks at the hurlin and hope sambo sticks with him.
Were abouts is Hippy?


Who was hitting the frees? how many were missed?

Paul Shields was hitting the frees, started well including a lovely sideline cut then missed a few. As I said Antrim could have been further clear at half time but once the Cats upped itclass began to show, however antrim stuck at it well.

With regard to the supporter point made below there were people from Antrim sitting round me applauding KK scores and just murmuring when Antrim scored wtf is that about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 26, 2009, 01:32:16 PM
Neal McAuley was centre half, great striker of the ball, good in the air although not the quickest especially if he is ran at.

Paul Shields was hitting the frees, missed about 4 or 5 i'd say, some of them were tough enough especially in the 2nd half against the wind(which he kept missing to the same post) which was a pity we needed a score at the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
I have said before on here that i think the mindset of Antrim supporters, and one i have, is a large majority go to see Antrim when they are playing a top team to appreciate the opposition, not just to support Antrim. The result for Antrim is usually academic, i would prefer them to win but you have to accept the fact when they play Cork, Kilkenny Waterford etc a heavy defeat is on the cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 26, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Plus unless Casement has 10,000 in its atmosphere is rubbish. Had yesterdays game been played in a ground where the crowd are closer to the pitch it leaves it easier for the crowd to become involved in the match and not just sit back and observe the game in the way that they do at casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 26, 2009, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 26, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Plus unless Casement has 10,000 in its atmosphere is rubbish. Had yesterdays game been played in a ground where the crowd are closer to the pitch it leaves it easier for the crowd to become involved in the match and not just sit back and observe the game in the way that they do at casement.

I always said the same, but the atomsphere at recent games in Dunloy, Ballycastle & Cushendall haven't really generated a great atompshere, though i would suspect the crowd was much bigger.  Even recall Antrim beating Offaly in Loughgiels second pitch, (thanks to a beauty of an Ally Elliott goal late on) and very little of an atompshere until the goal went in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2009, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 26, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
Always thought Ciaran Mc Gourty was the best hurler out of the three, and there never seems to be any oul bulls*it with him, i just hope he does not listen to his club manager too much and he could have a good season with Antrim.

c**k ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 26, 2009, 04:19:23 PM
Well I would have thought that if there was series of games and the team was competitive in these games in the smaller grounds that the crowd would buy into it more, the game in dunloy with wexford was a woeful game and the massive crowd in attendance couldnt get into it at all.
So i think it is a combo of both.

Max interested as to what you make of the lack of Dunloy players on the county scene at the moment, seems a bit strange from probably the second ranked team in the county at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 26, 2009, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 26, 2009, 04:19:23 PM
Well I would have thought that if there was series of games and the team was competitive in these games in the smaller grounds that the crowd would buy into it more, the game in dunloy with wexford was a woeful game and the massive crowd in attendance couldnt get into it at all.
So i think it is a combo of both.

Max interested as to what you make of the lack of Dunloy players on the county scene at the moment, seems a bit strange from probably the second ranked team in the county at the moment.

Can't claim to be the second ranked when we were beat by the beaten finalists but it is unusual for our club to be as poorly represented as we have been in recent years.

I think Paddy will return, though is a new father and so might not.  Of the players in our squad i believe should be involved most have i understand choosen not to commit or have retired, unfortunate as Damien McMullan, Malachy Molloy and Liam Richmond are still amoung the best in the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2009, 06:19:25 PM
i rate Damien McMullan as one of the best defenders in Antrim. quality on the ball, never mouths off, always looks calm and assured. also can hit some fine long range points. is he in his thirties yet? only flaw would that he'd need to build up a bit. a bit light. as was noticed yesterday.

James Ryall  and JTyrrell were huge, and with Hogan in fullback christ are bigger lads looked small
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 26, 2009, 06:23:45 PM
Big D is deceptively strong, maybe doesn't look it but i'd say very few would shake him off.  Was far an away Dunloys best player against Birr, would be 30 this coming year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 26, 2009, 07:38:08 PM
Aye Max was down at the game, played great and managed a great score from halfback i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on January 27, 2009, 08:54:39 AM
was very impressed with Antrim's effort on Sunday and thought Kieran McGourty had a fine game,things looking a bit brighter for the year ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 27, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Anybody got the league fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 27, 2009, 12:15:09 PM
8th Feb - 2.30pm Aontroim v Iar Mhí

15th Feb - 2.30pm An Dún v Aontroim

1st Mar - 2.30pm Aontroim v Loch Garman

22nd Mar - 2.30pm Ceatharlach v Aontroim

29th Mar - 2.30pm Aontroim v Ciarraí

5th Apr - 2.30pm Laois v Aontroim

19th Apr - 2.30pm Uíbh Fhailí v Aontroim


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 27, 2009, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 27, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
i wonder wat date the dall boys will be back to playing league games

I heard from someone close to the Cushendall team that some wanted to play in the first league game because training with Cushendall was lax to say the least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 27, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 27, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
i wonder wat date the dall boys will be back to playing league games

Surely the Kerry game as the heads will still be a bit sore for the Carlow one????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on January 28, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
I  don,t know who you were talking to but i watched the dall train recently and they are flying fit, Micky Culbert has them bouncing and well ahead in fitness terms. They believe their fitness levels is letting them concentrate on hurling with no worries. I'm told the 2 outstanding injuries both trained last night. i think they are better prepared than before and a better unit, with such a small panel there is no way the could play for the county at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 28, 2009, 10:29:51 AM
I fancy the dall to get past DLS. They will have more experience than la salle at this level. Maybe easier said than done but Mullane is not unmarkable. I reckon graffin will be tasked with this man marking job. The sticker the better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 28, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
Also this time of the year suits the Dall with the pitches being heavier and slower to suit their big strong backs as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 28, 2009, 10:54:39 AM
Everyone is talking about Mullane & rightly so but Brian Phelan was superb in the Munster final and is as influential as Mullane
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 28, 2009, 11:05:56 AM
Aye, but Ahane should have had them out of sight before they got on a roll. It was Ahane's to win and they didn't put them away. Nerves played a big part of that IMO. Cushendall will have a bit more to offer than Ahane in terms of experience on the big day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 28, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
Skull , that should be Adare (Mark Foley, Conor Fitzgerald, Donnacha Sheehan etc) and not Ahane (that's Ollie and Niall Moran's club, they were beat in the limerick county final).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 28, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
Aye....them as well

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on January 28, 2009, 12:50:55 PM
Apparently there training is going that well that they would beat the pick of them Skull!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 28, 2009, 01:59:18 PM
Quote from: NAG on January 28, 2009, 12:50:55 PM
Apparently there training is going that well that they would beat the pick of them Skull!

confidence was never an issue up around the Dall, that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 28, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
nothing wrong with confidence, better than a lack of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 29, 2009, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 28, 2009, 10:55:21 PM
nothing wrong with confidence, better than a lack of it

very true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on January 30, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
think Antrim are playing Cushendall on monday night at Casement. dare say it'll be behind close doors.

although De La Salle would be too cocky in driving up from Waterford to have a look.

should be a good crowd heading down to watch the match seeing it's only in Parnel Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on January 30, 2009, 08:56:04 PM
Quote from: milltown row on January 30, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
think Antrim are playing Cushendall on monday night at Casement. dare say it'll be behind close doors.

although De La Salle would be too cocky in driving up from Waterford to have a look.

should be a good crowd heading down to watch the match seeing it's only in Parnel Park


Any predictions for this game? Could put a few of the dalls county players under a spot of pressure if they dont show
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 01, 2009, 12:38:19 AM
Are you hinting that Jumbo shows favouritism to Cushendall players? Sensational stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on February 01, 2009, 06:23:41 PM
Will this match be on tomorrow night with Cushendall playing St Galls today?

MR how did yous fair against the dall today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
we played the the second strings. they only had A-D and Paddy magill and Micky McCambridge, big Jackie and Karl Keegan and couple of other second string players on ;)

good exercise for them, cold conditions and we'd went down with maybe 6 seniors and rest were made up of promising young players and reserves.

i fancy the Dall to do well in the match against De La Salle. some bookies are giving odds of 6/1 i might take some of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 02, 2009, 11:07:45 AM
MR I really dont get Cushendall playing ye at the weekend?

What did they hope to gain from this match? Were you speaking to any of them as to why they took on this match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 02, 2009, 11:10:23 AM
Especially when the likes of yourself was playing.  ;) Are they gunning for the Countess of Antrim later in the year?

Strange alright. Maybe boys coming back from injury?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 02, 2009, 11:30:04 AM
The match was for the panelists who needed some game time and also the lads returning from injury and that are rusty. The boys play Derry tonight and this will bar one or two be full strength. The Dall are just i guess keeping a happy panel. Some of the young boys namely James MC naughtons son Aidan and young Eoin Laverty showed great promise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 02, 2009, 12:19:19 PM
Again I ask the question, what is the benefit for them at this time of playing Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on February 02, 2009, 12:20:20 PM
JamseH

Where and what time is that challenge, between Cushendall and Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 02, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
Sometimes it's just not that easy to arrange the perfect challange game opposition at this time of the year what with the provincial competitions prior to the NHL. I'm sure Derry will provide a decent enough game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 02, 2009, 01:18:48 PM
Skull come on  ;)

I know its not easy to get the perfect challenge match, but IMO a bad challenge match could do you more harm than good. Realistically what is to be gained from their point of view, playing at a slower level than they will in two weeks and risking injury. To me it doesnt make any sense when they are so close to game time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 02, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
Who would you play NAG if you were Cushendall manager?? The match is 20 days away, just less than 3 weeks, do you expect to wrap the playerss to be wrapped up in cotton wool for 3 weeks prior to the match. You could get injured at training, go over your ankle & your out, get hurt at work, look at Paddy Murray, ruled of an All Ireland final( hit by by a slate was it) or Ciaran Herron, ruled out of an All Ireland QF cos he got hit in the eye by a hurling ball just pocking about. All freak accidents. Derry would be tough hard hitting match, it wont be pretty to watch but either will the Semi Final I'd imagine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 02, 2009, 01:45:31 PM
Think thw point NAG is making, and i agree, is that you have to wiegh up what you are going to get out of a challenge match against the risk to injury (which is effectively the same regardless of opposition).  Now if the Dall are going to get a very real and competitive test at a level akin to what they will face against DLS then i'd say the risk is worth the reward.  If the game is going to completely one sided and played at a pedestrian pace then no, it won't be worth it and a training session would be better IMO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 02, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
Two Hands

My point is that you would be better off playing a good tight training match among each other in house than going and playing a game against guys that arent as fit as them. Firstly the play will be slower and therefore players get into that mode when they should be preparing to play faster than they ever have before (you dont get that by playing slower opposition). Im not knocking Derry or St Galls I am just wondering how they think that these games will prepare them for their semi final.

Yes you can pick up injuries in training but if you are playing these IMO 'Bad' matches then the risk is increased and for what pay off?

In answer to your question I would look at some of the university sides in the south preparing for Fitzgibbon for  challenge games. Boys that are flying fit that are on or on the verge of senior inter county set ups. Ideal world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 02, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
In an ideal world Antrim would be situated between Tipp & Kilkenny.....Cushendall have played friendlies against UCC, UCD & Westmeath. Decent matches. As Skull has said it is very hard to get a good friendly when you consider the travelling involved & that the Walsh Cup would have started.

The match against St Galls was mainly to give the younger members of the squad a match & for a few ones coming back from injury. Of course playing Derry is a risk, then again, not playing enough matches could be a risk too. You won't find out unless you try.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 02, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
the game we took with the Dall was for the new management at my club to have look at some of the young ones coming through. we normally have a match early in the year to gauge some players fitness levels and to let them know that they are out of shape and stick work is poor. usually puts things into perspective. we went down with 6 seniors and the rest young and old reserve players. did no harm to either team.

paddy Magill played whole match along with Micky mcCambridge also some of the other players had 20 mins or 40 mins (we played 3 twenties) i can see why the Cushendall management took it as it's unfair of a panel of thirty and only the main ones getting match play. being a panel player can be annoying if not getting a game.

everyone came through unscathed. and our lads know that we have a good 8 weeks of training to get to some sort of fitness. stick work level, well I'll say nothing it's only Feb
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on February 02, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
train the way you play, play the way you train
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 05, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
how did the queens V uuj game go last nite?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2009, 12:01:39 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 05, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
how did the queens V uuj game go last nite?

UUJ won by about 10.

http://www.irishnews.com/irishnews/597/5776/2009/2/5/609473_371457336730UUJoverth.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 05, 2009, 12:53:45 PM
Some craic with Magill on back page of Irish News. I was just reading the HS page and the posters a re giving off stink about him not being allowed to play blah blah,not to mention how he was( a source told me) signed to two clubs at once and a third Robert Emmett's paid him to play for them, and haven't seen him since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DownFanatic on February 06, 2009, 02:24:17 PM
Was talking to a club mate the other day and we were discussing pre-season training. Now, our pre-season training is generally based around the unforgiving dune systems in Murlough and the greater Dundrum Bay area. He was telling me that back in 89' the Antrim hurlers spent a couple of sessions training down around here in the lead up to the All Ireland Final. Can any posters recall this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 06, 2009, 02:59:02 PM
cant recall it off hand but i "mind" doing that type of training on the dunes. top training in and around Murlough.

the year our senior footballers got to the All Ireland Club final, Rafferty said he'd see the lads at the dunes for ten O'Clock New Years day!!! bar maybe one or two the whole panel turned up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 06, 2009, 03:04:06 PM
I would say that type of training is more for the mental preparation than the physcial benefits of it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 08:20:54 PM
A Chairde Gael!

Just new to this site and finding my way around a little.  I have read some of the historical postings and the site seems to be spiralling downwards in recent months.  I suppose it may pick up a little with the National League commencing this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2009, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 08:20:54 PM
A Chairde Gael!

Just new to this site and finding my way around a little.  I have read some of the historical postings and the site seems to be spiralling downwards in recent months.  I suppose it may pick up a little with the National League commencing this weekend.

Mmmm...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
Was anybody besides myself and and a brave few others at the Ryan Cup match on Wednesday night in Casement?   Very poor attendance, very poor standard of hurling, very poor match, very poor refereeing, very poor conditions.  But sure students are very poor!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 06, 2009, 08:41:50 PM
When you consider that QUB actually got to a Fitzgibbon Cup hurling final in Croke Park 20 odd years ago, it puts the decline in 3rd level hurling into perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 06, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
i'm with you Minder, another one of the "others"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2009, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 06, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
i'm with you Minder, another one of the "others"

I will be assessing him very closely.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Does anyone know what the situation is with Mick Magill.  Will he not be permitted to play for Antrim hurling team anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 06, 2009, 10:39:06 PM
I dont think he'll be playing for Antrim this year..which is a pity

How many Antrim players would have been involved with Queens when the got the Fitzgibbon Final??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2009, 12:35:25 AM
so is Magill playing for Tir Na Og this year or some london Club? fancy Tir Na Og to do well this year in div two. they have a few boys on the county team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on February 07, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Does anyone know what the situation is with Mick Magill.  Will he not be permitted to play for Antrim hurling team anymore?

WBGAA would that be a The Knights Crest by any chance? I would hope that you carry that crest with some respect, and are not taking the p*** by any chance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 07, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 27, 2009, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 27, 2009, 08:52:11 PM
i wonder wat date the dall boys will be back to playing league games

I heard from someone close to the Cushendall team that some wanted to play in the first league game because training with Cushendall was lax to say the least.

Quote from: JamesH on January 28, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
I  don,t know who you were talking to but i watched the dall train recently and they are flying fit, Micky Culbert has them bouncing and well ahead in fitness terms. They believe their fitness levels is letting them concentrate on hurling with no worries. I'm told the 2 outstanding injuries both trained last night. i think they are better prepared than before and a better unit, with such a small panel there is no way the could play for the county at this stage.

Are you sure about that? I see Sambo quoted today in the Irish News saying the Cushendall contingent wanted to play against Westmeath.........My source was impeccable by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 07, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: Queenie on February 07, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Does anyone know what the situation is with Mick Magill.  Will he not be permitted to play for Antrim hurling team anymore?

WBGAA would that be a The Knights Crest by any chance? I would hope that you carry that crest with some respect, and are not taking the p*** by any chance!
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Excuse me, but what concern is it of yours! Now, what gives you the right to challenge any individual on this message board?  Are you some sort of message board policeman or something huh!  Don't go getting beyond yourself with such an aggressive attitude.  What way is that to talk to a new user of this message board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 07, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
Does anyone know if the Antrim v Westmeath game is going ahead tomorrow and if the ground is suitable to play on?  I dont wish to make the journey down and the game postponed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on February 08, 2009, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 07, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: Queenie on February 07, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Does anyone know what the situation is with Mick Magill.  Will he not be permitted to play for Antrim hurling team anymore?

WBGAA would that be a The Knights Crest by any chance? I would hope that you carry that crest with some respect, and are not taking the p*** by any chance!
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Excuse me, but what concern is it of yours! Now, what gives you the right to challenge any individual on this message board?  Are you some sort of message board policeman or something huh!  Don't go getting beyond yourself with such an aggressive attitude.  What way is that to talk to a new user of this message board.

I wonder? HMMMMMM! Very aggressive wbgaa1885? R u cloaked? De Ja Vu maybe, i suspect a reincarnation is at hand! My advice would be to drop the logo, your mixing it on purpose and to use a logo of such an esteemed institution is pitiful and extremely disrespectful to those who give there time and expertise voluntarily for the betterment of society on the whole no matter what the opinions of the ignorant think! Like yourself i would guess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 08, 2009, 11:29:05 AM
Your man can use whatever avatar he likes Queenie, whats the problem? Though I suspect you're right, he's been here before, two people here have alluded to this and he isn't even curious as to what they're talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: Queenie on February 08, 2009, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 07, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
Quote from: Queenie on February 07, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Does anyone know what the situation is with Mick Magill.  Will he not be permitted to play for Antrim hurling team anymore?

WBGAA would that be a The Knights Crest by any chance? I would hope that you carry that crest with some respect, and are not taking the p*** by any chance!
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Excuse me, but what concern is it of yours! Now, what gives you the right to challenge any individual on this message board?  Are you some sort of message board policeman or something huh!  Don't go getting beyond yourself with such an aggressive attitude.  What way is that to talk to a new user of this message board.

I wonder? HMMMMMM! Very aggressive wbgaa1885? R u cloaked? De Ja Vu maybe, i suspect a reincarnation is at hand! My advice would be to drop the logo, your mixing it on purpose and to use a logo of such an esteemed institution is pitiful and extremely disrespectful to those who give there time and expertise voluntarily for the betterment of society on the whole no matter what the opinions of the ignorant think! Like yourself i would guess.

Very interesting indeed!  Would you prefer that I use the Leigion of Mary, St. VD, UNICEF avatar just to appease you, I dont think so.  You know, I give very freely of my time for the less fortunate members of our society as I do also for Antrim, Ulster and the Association on a National level. I certainly wont be dictated to by such a paranoid individual.  I can also do without your advice.  As for ignorant, well we will let others decide.  I could lend you my Swaztica avatar seeing you appear to be short of one! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
NHL Div 2 game -  Antrim v Westmeath has just been called off. Offical!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 01:01:03 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
NHL Div 2 game -  Antrim v Westmeath has just been called off. Offical!

Now was'nt that, a good christian act!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Can you please change your avatar groundlie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on February 08, 2009, 11:29:05 AM
Your man can use whatever avatar he likes Queenie, whats the problem? Though I suspect you're right, he's been here before, two people here have alluded to this and he isn't even curious as to what they're talking about.

A chara!

Are you referring to me?  I think you have got it all wrong in this case.  What is you suspect they are alluding to in anyway?  Your friend Queenie, what a name, a trifle suspect if you ask me indeed.  He should be mindful of such a name nowadays with so many homophobics about.  Maybe he shoudl have a DUP or a Pink Shirt Avatar, what do you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 08, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
Westmeath would have gave our boys a right spanking today

And you a great Antrim Hurling supporter, how can you such a thing?  What makes you so sure the lads would have got a spanking?  Were you at the Kilkenny game, did the lads not put up a sterling performance against the mighty Cats, well maybe you were not there to witness it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
just watched the Tipp v descie game.  Barry Kelly (Ref) needs his head looked at for allowing the game to be played in such a poor playing surface.  Thank God Antrim had the good sense to call off our game.  Such conditions do not augur well for a good standard of hurling.  I think we really need to consider the value of playing NHL games at his time of year, when the sliotor tends not to play on top of the ground.  Does not do hurling any justice at all as well as a greater potential for players getting injured in such sticky ground conditions. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2009, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 08, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 08, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
Westmeath would have gave our boys a right spanking today

And you a great Antrim Hurling supporter, how can you such a thing?  What makes you so sure the lads would have got a spanking?  Were you at the Kilkenny game, did the lads not put up a sterling performance against the mighty Cats, well maybe you were not there to witness it?

Hurling

:D
He's talking about hurling you eejit. Walsh Cup.

Did Kilkenny not travel all the way up from Kilkenny to Belfast to play hurling?  Waslh Cup or not  Walsh Cup, Kilkenny do not field poor hurling teams.  If the Walsh Cup is good enough for Kilkenny to play hurling, it is certainly good enough for Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
I was backing you up, not dissing the Walsh Cup.

Sincere apologies Hardstation.  I though like some of the other suspicious posters, you were having a go.  I am glad to see someone else defends Antrim hurling here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 09, 2009, 12:20:14 AM
Anyone any idea when the fixtures for the hurling leagues will be released?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 09, 2009, 12:43:12 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 08, 2009, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
I was backing you up, not dissing the Walsh Cup.

Sincere apologies Hardstation.  I though like some of the other suspicious posters, you were having a go.  I am glad to see someone else defends Antrim hurling here.

I f**king love antrim hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 09, 2009, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on February 09, 2009, 12:20:14 AM
Anyone any idea when the fixtures for the hurling leagues will be released?

they are with your sec. now.

they have to be finalised first, football to be played on the first set of sundays. like last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 09, 2009, 04:36:49 PM
any word of when the weekends game to be refixed? any danger of a night under the lights?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on February 09, 2009, 05:02:23 PM
WBGAA1885 you sound like a guy with a rather large attitude problem! I sense that you may have missed your calling in Life, say Christian Brother maybe? I have a problem with your avatar, for sound reasons and your comments smack of a man that has a grudge against the gay community! You just seem to want to have a pop at everyone, some serious issues i guess, life just did,nt work out for you? Aggression solves nothing, you think you would have learned that at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 09, 2009, 06:02:19 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 09, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: Queenie on February 09, 2009, 05:02:23 PM
WBGAA1885 you sound like a guy with a rather large attitude problem! I sense that you may have missed your calling in Life, say Christian Brother maybe? I have a problem with your avatar, for sound reasons and your comments smack of a man that has a grudge against the gay community! You just seem to want to have a pop at everyone, some serious issues i guess, life just did,nt work out for you? Aggression solves nothing, you think you would have learned that at this stage.

Hi Queenie, tut, tut, tut!

Christian Brother, no way. I was taught by them though, and for some I have the highest regard and long term friendships.  Attitude problem, no way, just defending myself and also prepared to defend others when being verbally attacked.

If you have a problem with my avatar for sound reasons, that's a trifle unfortunate, because I wont be changing it, well maybe not for a while anyway.  What about freedom of expression and speech, do you have a problem with that? Are you a member of the Knights, if so , are you afraid to admit that also?  Your reference to the gay community where you infer I may have a grudge.  Well, no grudge, just away beyond my comfort zone, but whatever turns you on! Remember its 'Adam and Eve'.

I am not having a pop at anyone at all.  I was the one being 'popped' at since recently joining this forum and in my view I have made some very pertinent/valid comments on hurling on the 'Antrim Hurling Message Board'.  Whats so agressive about that I ask?

"Missed my callaing in Life" I once was considering the priesthood, but there is also better ways of making christian and charitable contributions to society and mankind.  One regret in this regard, I have maybe missed the opportunity to throw the sliotor in at an 'All Ireland Final' .  Life has worked out for me fine.   Able to keep the wolf from the door, fine upstanding and sucessful children, actively involved in the GAA and in particular 'hurling', cherish all things Irish and promote Irish culture.  Is that such a bad thing?

My friend, a little bit of advice, do you really want to go down this road? If so, what about a little 'Live and Let Live'!  Do be so judgemental about people, you will end up beating yourself up, getting adjitated and vindictive.  Lets just stick to hurling!  I can defend openly my hurling credentials.  How open are you prepared to be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 09, 2009, 07:55:26 PM
whats your predictions for the year wbgaa1885?

will Antrim win Div 2 or will we fall short?

can we get past Dublin in the championship at Croker?

can Cushendall beat La Salle on the 22nd? and will you be going down?

can Loughgiel win the championship or will Cushendall win it again?

whats your view on the Antrim league set up for hurling, should it be two up two down?

should the CCCC be voted in each year or continue the way they are going?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 09, 2009, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 09, 2009, 07:55:26 PM
whats your predictions for the year wbgaa1885?

will Antrim win Div 2 or will we fall short?

can we get past Dublin in the championship at Croker?

can Cushendall beat La Salle on the 22nd? and will you be going down?

can Loughgiel win the championship or will Cushendall win it again?

whats your view on the Antrim league set up for hurling, should it be two up two down?

should the CCCC be voted in each year or continue the way they are going?



Hi Miltown Row, please would be nice.  Not like you to be so cordial.

To answer your questions?

Antrim will come very close to winning Div 2.  Providing we get the right support, not like some of the demagouges on here.

Beat the Dubs, sure if we dont win anything, as loong as we beat the Jacks, thats ok with me.  We have beat them handy many times before.

The Dall will struggle against DLS if you ask me.  There not a great Cushendall team by past standards, certainly some fine individual hurlers but lack cohesion and guile. For sure I will be at the game. will you?  It may conflict with one of your soccer games, or could it be possible, that you may gat a call up for St. Galls, third team on the day of the semi final.

I for one would love to see Loughguille win the Championship.  If ever there was a team more deserving of one, it's them. There performance against Dunloy in the semi-final last year was masterly. A manful display by both teams but tank emptied come the final. Plus the loss of Liam Watson at full fitness was indeed a major loss.  he did not get the protection from the referee in the semi-fina.  Watson, Wat a hurler, i wish we had a few more like him.  Any like him in Naomh Gall?  Cairan McGourty is a great prospect, providing he does not listen to his da!

League structure, no opinion on this.  I bet you will be happy enough as long as Naomh Eoin and Lamh Dhearg keep getting demoted.

CCC.  Well, are you prepared to put your name forward for this committe.  A thankless job as long as clubs like your continue to play cat and mouse with the county and other rival clubs.  The Clubs will continue to adopt selfish, self interest ways of demeaning the CCC and the Leagues.  Go On, put your name forward.  Like the Shinners, you may only change it from within.  Are you prepared to do that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 09, 2009, 09:02:45 PM
you also forgot to ask nicely

i didn't knock the CCCC but sure..

as for the Dall match i think they are better prepared this year than last time out and will beat them (I've money on it) I'll be there just like all the Dunloy games before. i never miss

as for the Dubs game, well I'd like to think we'd do them over but may come up against it

as for the Johnny's and Lamhs being demoted, sure thats not a bad thing, club rivalry and all that, its healthy for the game. providing it does not spill out on a night out in town

Winker is his own worst enemy. I've seen/played in many a game where he brings it on himself. referee gave plenty of protection that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
Wbgaa.........Have you or do you know anyone that is more than a little interested to know the identity of certain posters on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 09, 2009, 10:05:56 PM
cheers milltown.  patience is a virtue i guess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 09, 2009, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
Wbgaa.........Have you or do you know anyone that is more than a little interested to know the identity of certain posters on here?

To tell you the truth pal, I have absolutlely no interest in the identity of any poster on this site.  Although, I find it interesting that there are those who seem hell bent on trying to ascertain who I am. 

No interest what so ever!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on February 10, 2009, 07:25:53 AM
 Can i just say, that the lads have absolutely no chance against us WBGAA1885. We will give you a lesson that day on physicality and route one hurling!!! The antrim lads will freeze on the big occasion, i too MR believe that the dal will win my only concern is the forwards no killer instinct the FB/HB lines are the best around in Antrim. Mc Manus needs a free role in the Midfield/forward line to do as he wants, if he drops back into a rear position they will loose it for sure. Sad to see the belfast teams falling away, its killing the game in the city, south west seems to be up and comming at a glance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 10, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
wbgaa

welcome to the board.

Have to take you to task on your point of the protection of liam watson, he is simply the most protected player in the county at present no other player gets the number of fouls he does and it is not always because he is being picked on. If anyone who was in casement to watch the replay between Loughgiel and Dunloy they would have witnessed one of the dirtiest strokes ever witnessed when he pulled head height on the corner back. Also what use would more like him be when he is of no benefit to the county apart from generating bad publicity.

Hard to know with cushendall to be honest on one hand I think they will have enough power and hurling for DLS but if DLS can stop the scoring threat of Shane McN then they will go along way to stopping c'dall, can anyone see them getting the 2-15ish that they would need without a big contribution from him. On the other hand they do have one of the meanest defences around so hard one to call, like all these games they are very much on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on February 10, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
i see the dall were generally 5/1 to win that match, now trimmed to 7/2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on February 10, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
i see the dall were generally 5/1 to win that match, now trimmed to 7/2!

Why would they have come in to 7/2 unless Mullane & Phelan were not playing for example.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on February 10, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
Significant money being put on Cushendall would be enough to lower the price
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 12:19:17 PM
Is the 7/2 standard in the different bookies or one in particular?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 10, 2009, 12:23:15 PM
Think with it being a difficult one to call the prices will tighten as the match approaches and only significant injuries will now adjust the prices either way.

Tight one to call, not much noise coming from the glens about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 10, 2009, 12:23:15 PM
Think with it being a difficult one to call the prices will tighten as the match approaches and only significant injuries will now adjust the prices either way.

Tight one to call, not much noise coming from the glens about it.

Do you think it was peculiar NAG that the Cushendall players made themselves available for selection for the Antrim match at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 10, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
as far as i was aware, it was discussed months ago that the lads would be available. the club managers discussed it with county managers and thought every game for antrim was must win and would try to help them as much as possible. this was in november i think

I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago on here that some of the players were not happy with training and they were interested in playing, and was told it wouldnt happen. Would Cushendall players not be more concerned with preparations for an All Ireland Semi, and a decent chance of progressing, than a Division 2 NHL game? I cant imagine the Cushendall management, or the management of any club, having any interest in the fortunes of the county team when they have such a big game coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 10, 2009, 01:41:12 PM
Minder I find it seriously strange that they were available for that game.

I cant understand their thinking playing in a match like that before one of the biggest games in their clubs history, didnt see any of the DLS men lining out but maybe im wrong.

What is your thinking on it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 10, 2009, 01:41:12 PM
Minder I find it seriously strange that they were available for that game.

I cant understand their thinking playing in a match like that before one of the biggest games in their clubs history, didnt see any of the DLS men lining out but maybe im wrong.

What is your thinking on it?

I said a couple of weeka ago that someone directly involved with the team said the players were not happy with the training and wanted to play in the first NHL game. I was told this was nonsense on here but wasnt too surprised when i saw Sambo saying they wanted to play. The fella that said this has no reason to make it up and it isnt "bar room gossip".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 10, 2009, 01:51:02 PM
Minder

Who is doing the training for cushendall then? Have the specialised coaches in for physical and hurling drills?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 10, 2009, 01:51:02 PM
Minder

Who is doing the training for cushendall then? Have the specialised coaches in for physical and hurling drills?

I believe Micky Culbert is doing the physical training with them, and i dont believe for a minute that it was agreed before Xmas for the Cushendall players to come on board. If it was "agreed" why did Sambo not want them to play then on Sunday? Rightly stating that he couldnt drop fellas that have been training since before Xmas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 10, 2009, 02:01:49 PM
It was agreed before Xmas that the Cushendall players would play against Westmeath. Then I heard there was a turn around that the players werent allowed to play against Westmeath. Sure the Cushendall players werent allowed to play for the Poly or Queens in the Ryan Cup match last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 10, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
Cushendall will do the business. strongly fancy them.

i'd say the nerves would be setting in the closer it gets.

wind that eejit Mullane up.
if he did a lot of their scoring then i'm afraid i'd have a few different markers on him. letting the timber go on him. semi finals are there to be won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 10, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
Cushendall will do the business. strongly fancy them.

i'd say the nerves would be setting in the closer it gets.

wind that eejit Mullane up.
if he did a lot of their scoring then i'm afraid i'd have a few different markers on him. letting the timber go on him. semi finals are there to be won.
Where do you think they will get the scores from Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 11, 2009, 09:12:39 AM

The Cushendall county players and studants were told 3 weeks ago now that they wouldn't be playing and had no problem as they knew why and could see the reasons behind it. I don't know why Sambo said they were not using the players as he was also told they weren't available and wasn't pleased. Cushendall beat Westmeath by 5 and were missing 4 players so surely the county could beat them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 11, 2009, 04:26:51 PM
they will get scores Minder. who from? well Shane, Monty AD and a lot from frees. their defence is pretty strong. it should be low scoring. if McManus is playing in the forwards then i think he will also come up with scores.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 10, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 10, 2009, 06:29:03 PM
Cushendall will do the business. strongly fancy them.

i'd say the nerves would be setting in the closer it gets.

wind that eejit Mullane up.
if he did a lot of their scoring then i'm afraid i'd have a few different markers on him. letting the timber go on him. semi finals are there to be won.
Where do you think they will get the scores from Milltown?


i have to say minder that'd be my concern for them. They seem happy to sit deep in front of the defence and let Shane in particular use the extra space to get scores. I haven't seen AD or Monty put too much on the scoreboard from open play in a while.
Don't be expecting too many soft frees from a southern ref in parnell park.
Both Dungiven and Ballygalget had opportunities to win their respective games in Ulster, Dungiven hadn't the firepower to avail of the possession and Ballygalget started the wrong defender on Shane allowing the sizeable lead to materialise and had Cushendall pinned back for a large part of the game. The Cushendall defence won both of those games for them IMO. I can't see DLS being so giving but you never know.
If Cushendall are chasing the game they'll need to let Mcmanus or Sean Delargy rove much further forward than normal, something they should do as i think their defence is good enough to mark man to man, maybe conceeding a bit more than normal but a lot more potent up front.
I cna still see them sneak it by a point if they keep their heads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
Sean Delargy has pretty much been HF for them since the county semi so I'd expect to see him in the forward line.

I'd share the same concerns - their defense is brilliant and to be honest there's probably not many better club defenses out there but Shane and AD aside their forwards have struggled. They usually play with Monty, OS, Graffin, Natty McNaughton, McManus and Elliot in defense despite what their numbers suggest.

I thought they were slack in both ulster games and should have put those teams away a lot earlier. They appear to sit on leads and it creeps up on them because both teams should have been firmly put away. While Ballygalget were close cushendall always had enough to beat them.

It'll be interesting to see who marks Mullane - I suspect Graffin. Not sure what these boys defenders are like but if they've Brian Phelan and they stuck him on Shane not sure how well he'd do. Against tight strong markers I think he struggles but maybe he's developed that side of his game.

Would love to see Cushendall win - think they could in a tight game too.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 11, 2009, 06:45:43 PM
Phelan wont be playing corner back, watched DLS in both games and not overly impressed. any team that wins Munster has to be respected but i felt the Limerick team let themselves down and Foley and co should have won the match.

against Loughrea the Dall were unfortunate with injuries and some inexperience players on board. but they should be better for it. think DLS will think they just have to turn up. that may be an advantage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 11, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
'The Dall' will fall, sorry to say.  Believe me , I know these things! In my humble opinion, if they cant win the game with their forwards, they certainly will not, by playing a defenive game.  Play from the front and all that.  It's hard to win a game playing defensively, you forget how to and the need to score, very easily.

If they cant win friom the front, they will not win at all! (by the way, that will be unfortunate, I would love to see them win because I for one have no axe to grind!) I dont think Culbert will have them equipped with the strength and pace either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 11, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
Hi JohnnyCool, a chara.

Before the Queenie fella gets offended, I think you should change your 'avatar' he may take offence at it and give ya a lecture. Ya know, the war is over now, we are all gods children and all that.  The Johnnies, Rossa, Ra, Provos, INLA, Sticks, IRSPs, Shinners, St. Galls and Lamh Dhearg, sure we are all mates know dont ya know!
 
God bless you my son!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 12, 2009, 11:06:11 AM
Certainly makes for an interesting match up be interesting to see the DLS team and if they make any adjustments for Cushendall. IMO they are one of the weaker teams to have come out of munster in a few years, thats not to knock their achievement of winning Munster just being realisitc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 12, 2009, 11:25:07 AM
I think people see DLS as weaker because they dont have the history or tradition of competing in Munster finals, All Ireland Semis. If the Cork team that Cussen played for, forget their name or Toomevara came out of Munster people would be saying Cushendall have no hope. It is crazy to underestimate a team that navigated its way through a notoriously tough Waterford championship then a Munster Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2009, 11:43:13 AM
Well a munster team should never be underestimated. They've came out of a strong hurling county and out of an even stronger province. They'll be difficult to beat and should be favourites - strong favourites. An Ulster team will never be even close to favourites against a munster team unless it's kerry.

Cushendall - if they're prepared right and have the belief in themselves can win it though. I think so, well hope so, anyway.

They're definitely a bit short in the forwards but that defense is as strong as nearly any club team round and can hopefully carry them through.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on February 12, 2009, 12:12:36 PM
Cussen plays for Sarsfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 12, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 11, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
Hi JohnnyCool, a chara.

Before the Queenie fella gets offended, I think you should change your 'avatar' he may take offence at it and give ya a lecture. Ya know, the war is over now, we are all gods children and all that.  The Johnnies, Rossa, Ra, Provos, INLA, Sticks, IRSPs, Shinners, St. Galls and Lamh Dhearg, sure we are all mates know dont ya know!
 
God bless you my son!

If you can't put up the Norn Iron first minister on your avatar who can you put up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 12, 2009, 07:19:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 11, 2009, 06:45:43 PM
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against Loughrea the Dall were unfortunate with injuries and some inexperience players on board. but they should be better for it. think DLS will think they just have to turn up. that may be an advantage

Against loughrea a number of the Dall forwards had no balls.
One player had a leg injury in the 1st half- was this a real injury? (answer-No).  Another player selfishly lifted the ball over the line, rather than pass to the unmarked shane mc naughton.
The dall will be hammered against dls.
Dunloy, ballycastle, Rossa, and of course Loughgiel have all made the all ireland final.  Come on dls, hammer those arrogant culchies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 13, 2009, 08:03:33 AM
Just signed up guys thought id give it a go, have,nt decided on a avatar yet, and to stop everyone guessing i am an active referee!!! Maybe i could help some of you through the course of the season, please don,t hold that against me, some of us have to do it. Will not be getting caught up in all the B******* that can go on, if i feel its worth contributing to and its constructive i will, and no im not the doc! Keep me right MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 13, 2009, 10:26:07 AM
Leroy, what an arse you seem to be already. How could you tell if anyone was injured or not, surely the management would have known better than a mouth like yourself. Were you at the match? Perhaps as the likes of Neill as he would say himself had more experience we would have had more scores out of him. Shane you idiot was next to Declan our biggest as our main injury as he got injured the week before in training and along with Emmett this took three players out of our already small panel. The boys have been were you'll never be. What club do you hail from? What reason do you'll call us arrogant? it seems to me that whoever comes from North Antrim and wins the county title is an arrogant culcie in the minds of some Belfast people, Why? pure jealousy. get a life an visit the Hoganstand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 13, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
What coaching background has the latter in the partnership got?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2009, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 13, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
good appointments for the minor jobs in kevin mcnaughton and andrew mccallin. seems like waiting a while brought out a good pairing.

Was it not more a case that nobody wanted it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2009, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 13, 2009, 01:15:19 PM
andy has been involved with st johns underage teams for quite a few years as far as i know milltown might be able to confirm more. always came across as a nice fella when i met him.

for minor managers to work you always need one NA man and one SA man as the divisonal structure means you don't see all the players from the other divison. good to see kevin getting involved again. too good of a man to not be used

Colonel - Has Kevin ever managed Cushendall seniors?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 13, 2009, 01:19:49 PM
Not that I can think of Minder, he wouldnt be the most popular around Cushendall from what I hear in the past although the group that he coached underage would now be the backbone of the senior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 13, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Like I said, the Dall have no balls.  They are losers.
I will predict result-and when game is over i will copy this message to say "told you so".
DLS to win by 7-8 points.

My opinion of their team- keeper (name-escapes me)-hot and cold. full back line-delargey-hot and cold, scullion-good, under rated. graffin-good.
half backs-mc cambridge-past it, mc manus- hot and cold. Elliott-good
Midfiield-mc naughton-gives away too many frees, lazy.  mc keegan-past it.
3/4 forwards- A delargey-past it. mc killop-hot and cold. magill-hot and cold, lazy.
full forward-mc naughton-can be vey good, easily put off by a hard defender. mc cambridge-past it  no 15 (name escapes me)-no good.

In my opinion-backs are okay, forwards have no scoring treat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 13, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
Colonel I was going back a while so might be wrong if I am hands up.

Leroy what balls are you talking here?
If you have a decent contribution to make then make it. If you dont know the players to name then you shouldnt really be commenting on them. Do your homework before you start mouthing off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 13, 2009, 02:12:54 PM
Looks like Leroy has a dislike for Cushendall....if he doesnt rate the county champions then I'd wouldnt like to think what he thinks of the rest of the teams in the county.

Any ideas of what kind of minor team will we have?? Guessing that we wouldnt be that strong.

Very quiet on here about the Down match this Sunday. Should be winning but Down will be pretty tricky at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 13, 2009, 03:15:30 PM
The team will not or resembled the team that you seem to be talking about, you didn't even get the spine correct. What hurling credentials do you posses to even comment on our team?

Wee Kevin is a good man, takes no shit and tha boys will do it his way or it will  be the highway, Young Andy is also a good lad He spent a lot of time in Cushendall when he was younger and would be popular with the young lads a sort of good cop sort of thing going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 13, 2009, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 13, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
good appointments for the minor jobs in kevin mcnaughton and andrew mccallin. seems like waiting a while brought out a good pairing.

Was it not more a case that nobody wanted it?

Very Negative Minder, very negative indeed!  Seeing your wife is now off your hands, (jaesus has'nt she got sense!) why dd you not apply for the vacant job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 13, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
good appointments for the minor jobs in kevin mcnaughton and andrew mccallin. seems like waiting a while brought out a good pairing.

Is that the Naomh Eoin - Andy McCallion, the poison dwarf?  Anybody but a St. John's man, sure the rest of the minors in the county won't get a look in.  Thay are like that ya know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Just a thought for discussion guys.  Whats the general feeling on the standard ofreferring in the county from a hurling perspective?  I have been watching games very closely this last few years and have differing views on what I have seen.

1. Are we recruiting enough referees within the county and are clubs doing their bit in putting names forward for refere training?

2. Is the standard of refereeing trainiong in tyhe county up to standard?

3. Who in your honest opinons are the good referees within the county?  My selection would be as follows in terms of fitness and competence:

1. Liam McAuley
2. Owen Elliot
3. Garret Duffy
4. Eugene McHugh
5. Ray Mathews
6. Tommy McIntyre
7. James McSparran
8. Pat McCaffrey
9. Davy McGrath


4. Is it likely, other than Tommy McIntyre, do any of the above haver the potential to get to the big stage, i.e. All Ireland Hurling Final?

5. Do are referees tend to let the play flow, instead of blowing for fairly trivial fouls?

6. Are our referees fit, able to keep up with play, and fully conversant with the rules and their interpretation.

Just a though for some meaningful discussion.  I think there individuals here always quick to criticise.

what do you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 11, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
Hi JohnnyCool, a chara.

Before the Queenie fella gets offended, I think you should change your 'avatar' he may take offence at it and give ya a lecture. Ya know, the war is over now, we are all gods children and all that.  The Johnnies, Rossa, Ra, Provos, INLA, Sticks, IRSPs, Shinners, St. Galls and Lamh Dhearg, sure we are all mates know dont ya know!
 
God bless you my son!

If you can't put up the Norn Iron first minister on your avatar who can you put up?

That could not be Martin McGuinNess. 1. He looks sensible.  2. His face is washed. 3. He has not got his new Baulmer suit on.  4. Marting McGuinness does not have guns and is not in the Ra.

Just counld'nt be!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 08:12:12 PM
Just a thought for discussion guys.  Whats the general feeling on the standard ofreferring in the county from a hurling perspective?  I have been watching games very closely this last few years and have differing views on what I have seen.

1. Are we recruiting enough referees within the county and are clubs doing their bit in putting names forward for refere training?

2. Is the standard of refereeing trainiong in tyhe county up to standard?

3. Who in your honest opinons are the good referees within the county?  My selection would be as follows in terms of fitness and competence:

1. Liam McAuley
2. Owen Elliot
3. Garret Duffy
4. Eugene McHugh
5. Ray Mathews
6. Tommy McIntyre
7. James McSparran
8. Pat McCaffrey
9. Davy McGrath


4. Is it likely, other than Tommy McIntyre, do any of the above haver the potential to get to the big stage, i.e. All Ireland Hurling Final?

5. Do are referees tend to let the play flow, instead of blowing for fairly trivial fouls?

6. Are our referees fit, able to keep up with play, and fully conversant with the rules and their interpretation.

Just a though for some meaningful discussion.  I think there individuals here always quick to criticise.

what do you think?

Apologies about the spellings, I am having a senior refereeing moment!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
You must be drinking if you have any of the refs ahead of Tommy Mc Intyre. Especially Eugene Mc Hugh,all my humble opinion of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 13, 2009, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: JamesH on February 13, 2009, 03:15:30 PM
The team will not or resembled the team that you seem to be talking about, you didn't even get the spine correct. What hurling credentials do you posses to even comment on our team?

Does Cushendall team have a spine?  Well your forwards have none.  DLS backs to clean up. i hear Carson is full forward, or the 1st sub to be used.  Has he not got a pension? 
Wait and see.  My assessment of your prima donas WILL be correct on 22nd.  i did not even give an assessment of your astute, tactically aware, mensa-like, management.   
  DLS by 7-8 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 09:58:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 13, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
You must be drinking if you have any of the refs ahead of Tommy Mc Intyre. Especially Eugene Mc Hugh,all my humble opinion of course.

Hi Minder

I don't drink at all, not good for the aul liver and belly.  By the look of some of them referees, they could loose a few pounds of the bellies also. Wada ya mean about Eugene, he is a good guy, honest, lets the game flow a little fairly well up in the rules also.  Sure Tommy is past it now, last I heard he was hanging the aul boots up. If ya look at some of them other boyo's, especially the city fellas, they could learn a thing or two from the bold Eugene.

I am a retired referee's committee person and know a good hurling referee when I see one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
I reckon Owen Elliot is shaping up nicely also and doing a good job.  Great performance in last years semi-final.  He really did let the game flow, (with a little blood, I may add).  But it was a good performance for a Ballymena boyo!

Any new up and coming referees in the city?  Hopefully they will be a bit younger and fitter, not like the current Grecian 2000/roolly polly brigade.  I hear there is a fellla called O'Reilly,  I think his name is, making great in-roads.  Have you heard of him?  What club is he with.  He is one I have not seen referee yet.  But I belive there is great potential with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2009, 10:08:07 PM
The one thing i will say in Eugenes favour compared to some of our "brightest prospects" is he does not crave being the centre of attention.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 10:15:10 PM
Totally agree Minder.  Some of them other boyos, are really full of themselves and really love hugging the limelight.  Would'nt it be great if some young, up and coming referee came into play and blew some of these boyos into oblivion?  I think it would be great also if we got a half decent Hurling referee from St. John, Cushendall and Dunloy.  I think that would really set things on fore in some of the local derbies.  e.g  Balyycastle v Dunloy with a Dall referee.  St. galls. V lamh Dhearg with a St. Johns referee.  Would there be fireworks or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 10:23:29 PM
Feel like I have F****** Alzheimmers here, Feck*** talking to meself!  This message board is bit lifeless.  Aaaahhhh, ye are all out on the feck*** drink.  Must be all referees and stressed school teachers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 14, 2009, 07:11:45 AM
Minder who would crave the limelight and what do you base your opinions on? Owen, Ray, Tommy, Liam and Garrett are now all National Referees, tommy of course has been a long established representative at this level, i speak of hurling of course. Football would be Gregory, Raymond and patrick, with Owen Quinn no pushing hard to make the list.

Ray and Garrett played to the end of the career before refereeing, Liam Tommy and Owen finished very early, the same can be said of Gregory Raymond and patrick. All the National guys have to pass what is now a very tough fitness test conducted at DCU, so WBGAA1885 your comments are a little idiotic and if you are a past committee member you should have known this. Garrett and Raymond last year from what i believe  a fantastic year with some of their appointments, and long may it continue for all our National guys, they get Little opportunity as it is.

Again Minder, seriously who craves it and what are you basing it on. As i said don,t want to get into a mud slinging match but the guys take enough abuse and hassle from all sides of what is a thankless task! Constructive criticism is good and i am sure all the lads are open minded enough to take any positives on board. And seriously WBGAA1885 i would change the avatar, you probably find yourself being sanctioned in some way in the not to distant future, just some friendly advice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 14, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
Christ i take the wife and kids away for a luxurious break and the shite being talked here reminds me of a time some arse was banned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 15, 2009, 09:07:01 PM
Well said MR i hope you had a fantastic break with "All" of your kids
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 15, 2009, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 14, 2009, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 13, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 13, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
good appointments for the minor jobs in kevin mcnaughton and andrew mccallin. seems like waiting a while brought out a good pairing.

Is that the Naomh Eoin - Andy McCallion, the poison dwarf?  Anybody but a St. John's man, sure the rest of the minors in the county won't get a look in.  Thay are like that ya know!

Jealously is a terrible thing, Andy McCallion is an antrim legend. Had more talent in his little finger than any of you on this board put together. And as for your attack on St Johns, if you looked at the irish news today you'll find 5 great st johns men made the best players who ever served their county! These REAL antrim men  where,

Wee Andy

Joe McCallion

Gerry McCrory

Gerry McCann

Mickey Darragh

Up the Johnnies

Groundlie i think WBGAA1885 is talking about Hurling? Bit too quick of the mark, calm down you will make yourself look and sound like an idiot if your not careful, and i am sure your not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 16, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
I think we will just have to ignore another eejit that has inflicted himself on us!

Any reports from the match at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2009, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: NAG on February 16, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
I think we will just have to ignore another eejit that has inflicted himself on us!

Any reports from the match at the weekend?

I just heard that Down had a man sent off in the first half and Antrim made heavy work of it for long periods.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 16, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
No one at it? we're not hurling men at all on this board,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2009, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: maxpower on February 16, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
No one at it? we're not hurling men at all on this board,

Its too cold at the minute, if the Antrim board could stream live uninterrrupted coverage into our living rooms that would be nice.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 16, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
No one at it? we're not hurling men at all on this board,

club training at the minute cant get to the game. arranged for training to be early next week so that i can attend Cushendall's match. anyone heading down for that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 16, 2009, 12:40:32 PM
Id say there will be twice as many if not more people heading to the cushendall match than attended the game against Down. I for one will be there.

Things are still very quiet from the Glens, I would expect cushendall to give this one a serious crack, if I were in there position tough game and all that it surely will be, I would be very disappointed if I wasnt looking forward to paddys day in croke come 5pm on sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 16, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
as an outsider looking in, surely this represents the dall's best ever chance of reaching the final ? Hope they do. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2009, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 16, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
as an outsider looking in, surely this represents the dall's best ever chance of reaching the final ? Hope they do. Good luck to them.

I think the Loughrea match two years ago was their best chance. Loughrea were pretty poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 02:38:04 PM
yes Loughrea was a better chance but only with the team they have now Minder, that team had some problems then. but as others have pointed out if Cushendall had been meeting a team for Tipp or Cork then we would not give them a chance.

so anyone at the Antrim match? i forgot all about the Clare game on the sat night also ???  though i was in the pub at the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2009, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: Shrek on February 16, 2009, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2009, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 16, 2009, 01:14:47 PM
as an outsider looking in, surely this represents the dall's best ever chance of reaching the final ? Hope they do. Good luck to them.

I think the Loughrea match two years ago was their best chance. Loughrea were pretty poor.

was that the same Loughrea team who beat Portumna  ???

"Beat" them being the operative term........They were one of the weakest teams to come out of Galway in the last few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 03:54:08 PM
Minder still waiting on your reply? Who in your opinion craves the limelight? MR into management i hear as well as being one of us, busy year ahead to say the least, your fellow clubman seems to be getting some high profile games recently, and S***** has now joined Rossa? Whats the story there? Free Pints maybe!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 16, 2009, 04:01:05 PM
Dark Knight

If he has joined Rossa then a bad move for them. He is a terrible ref and I dont honestly like criticising them on here but when some one who has no hurling knowledge or ability to even judge what a foul is then I have to say something. I also take issue with the County pushing some one like that forward when it is obvious that they are not up to the task.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 04:06:23 PM
NAG i must apologise, S***** has not been pushed forward, i was also referring to Garrett who seems to be progressing very well, and good luck to him as he,s a sound bloke of the pitch. I can,t speak for the other lad though, or maybe you where referring to Garrett? S***** is now an official ref for rossa!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 16, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
Well he was reffing matches last year that were well above his ability therefore IMO he is being pushed. I have one bone of contention with our refs and it goes across the board, we have an inability to spot a dangerous foul and never even blow them but when it comes to the technical or petty foul they are all over it.

This is something I have spoke about on here a number of times and I am hoping to see an improvement this year but I honestly doubt it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 04:22:08 PM
The dark knight, tread carefully as you could be banned. as for management, I've been managing teams at the club for several years, whats your point?

I'm at a disadvantage here, you sound and get on like a teacher in a local school maybe La Salle, again maybe too much time on your hands but sure..... lets hope your not who i think ya are ;)

as for the S................. who da Fcuk are ya talking about?  Speedy? talking to him on Saturday last and he never mentioned it

as for refereeing this year i've too much on my plate. maybe next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 04:23:03 PM
Sorry NAG who are talking about Garrett or Speedy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 04:25:07 PM
MR are you a moderator also, why should i be banned? have i broken any rules ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 16, 2009, 04:34:15 PM
I was talking about speedy!

Garrett has the makings of a good ref if he would stopping listening to the hype about him and watch a few more games of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 04:25:07 PM
MR are you a moderator also, why should i be banned? have i broken any rules ;)

8. Joining up to cause trouble, or to annoy people.
   Occasionally, some people join the board simply to post something abusive, or to 'flame' the board. These people are generally easy to spot (see the F365 invasion last
   year) and have no real interest in the GAA Board. Also some people, who have been banned permanently, rejoin under different usernames and continue with the
   behaviour that led to the ban. By tracking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 16, 2009, 05:02:58 PM
Thanks for that MR, i don't believe i have been abusive in any way, i am here as a current ref to help guide and contribute on all that is positive on the board, check my postings to date!

Nag you may be right, i have never got that impression of him. Owen Elliott, and Ray matthews are also beginning to rise within the national arena also, it would be great to see the 3 antrim lads get a fair crack, its been a long time since tommy got his just rewards, hopefully 1 of the lads at least will do the same and we can hopefully only benefit from there experience gained at national level, although in antrim we still lack the physicality i think, and until that is allowed to come back into our club games we will struggle, hopefully cushendal will give the la salle boys all they want. Good luck to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 16, 2009, 05:09:05 PM
Lads, I hope to take our U12s down to the C'dall game on Sunday, any of yous know an accomadating club we might arrange a match with on the way down on Sunday morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 16, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 16, 2009, 05:09:05 PM
Lads, I hope to take our U12s down to the C'dall game on Sunday, any of yous know an accomadating club we might arrange a match with on the way down on Sunday morning.

vincents across the road from parnell probably closest. walking distance.
Craobh chiarain have their clubhouse at parnell park but their pitch is about a mile up the road. still local enough.
O Tooles are about a mile away on the malahide rd , 10 min drive to parnell park.
na fianna on mobhi road about a 15 min drive away.

all of them are quite local.


was going to do the same Last man, got this off indiana. not going to bother now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 16, 2009, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 16, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
I think we will just have to ignore another eejit that has inflicted himself on us!

Any reports from the match at the weekend?

Jayysus lads you's are a fairly sensitive bunch!

Up the Torywagners!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 17, 2009, 09:18:42 AM
Cheers Milltown. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 17, 2009, 07:25:58 PM
DLS are Munster champs, they will beat cushendall by 10 points.

Cushendalls best chance was v Loughrea, but their forwards did not have "the balls".  One got a phantom leg or foot injury, another who was just back from injury was put on his arse by no 6.  Another tried and tried to lift the ball rather than pass, until he lifted it over the end line.  It is the same forwards that will face DLS, and it is the same forwards that will fail on sunday.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2009, 08:51:23 PM
More useful constructiveness from you Leroy  ::)

What's up - you jealous o them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 17, 2009, 09:32:15 PM
Oh Leroy, you childish little man, i will be in Parnell on Sunday supporting the the club i love watching my friends hurl, something they have put so much into all their days and i will be as proud as punch win lose or draw, but jealous muppet, like you are an embarrsment to the gaa. I lot of other poeple will be down supporting us and when another club represents Antrim i for  one will be there supporting them, will you? or is it the ruairis you don't like?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 18, 2009, 08:54:56 AM
Glad to hear JamesH you will be proud of your culchie friends when they lose on sunday, and lose they will.

On the 22nd I will remind you of my predictions, especially my assessment of your team.  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 18, 2009, 09:10:18 AM
Where are you from Leroy? What club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2009, 09:20:16 AM
Leroy's tone and attitude tells me that he will not leave himself open to rebuke by answering that two hands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 18, 2009, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 18, 2009, 09:20:16 AM
Leroy's tone and attitude tells me that he will not leave himself open to rebuke by answering that two hands


Leroy has all the hallmarks of 'hurler on the ditch' so whatever club he or she is involved with it probably in a non active role where they cannot be critised but as we've witnessed is partial to throwing out the insults to people who at least make the effort.

I suppose every club has them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 18, 2009, 05:36:20 PM
We shall see who is correct on sunday evening.  I will eat humble pie IF Cushendall win.  Which means I will not.

I just hate/loathe Cushendall.  Used to be forced to Cushendall with my folks for holidays, what a dump!

It is noted that Ballycastle, The Rossa, Dunloy, and of course Loughgiel have all made All Ireland  final.  (The Johnnies and Galls in football too) Cushendall keep on failining and failing etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
6 anti cushendall posts to your name and 6 posts to your name

what a worthwhile contributor ::)

many people making the journey on sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 18, 2009, 09:02:23 PM
aye be heading down with full car i hope

some hoganstand posters on this site now. poor show
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 18, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
I'll be there on Sunday, hope the dall do it. Tough task in the final though for dls or the dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2009, 09:34:54 PM
The two teams on the other side of that draw are serious club teams. Cushendall have a tough task in the final if they can get there. It's a big task to get there but achievable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 18, 2009, 11:44:13 PM
I'll be there on Sunday.

Will happily use my lunch hour on Monday to come up to the Students Union and hit LB with a humble pie if the Dall win.
Does you mother even like you?

Get stuck into them Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
Why would the Mods need to get involved? Has he singled anyone out by name for personal abuse? If people are so upset ignore him. He does not want Cushendall to win, he is probably not the only one in the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2009, 09:45:42 AM
Re: The Mods: I agree with HS & Minder. He hasn't broken any rules as such. It would be nice if he just went back to the hoganstand though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 19, 2009, 11:22:50 AM
Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, better than sitting on the fence with rose tinted glasses.

Good day sirs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 19, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
Any team news from the Dall yet?

Who's the starting 15?
Title: !
Post by: leroy brown on February 19, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
It pleases me that ye culchies get SO annoyed!  Ye will be more annoyed on Sunday at about 430 approx and I will gloat then  ;D

Pity match is not on TV.

But, let us see if my assessment of your team turns out to be correct.  i.e: your backs are good, but your forwards have no guts, they were found lacking previously and will do so again.  Read the previous posts-the truth hurts.  Keep getting annoyed.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 19, 2009, 01:28:47 PM
i'd think Leroy has got the response he wanted from yourself colonel. 

too the match itself i have to really fancy cushendall to progress, and why not.  I hear people on saying they have to be respected becasue they came out of a though province. In my opinion it was not of the highest standard, and despite obviously being the most competitive County championship, its record in the All Ireland Club Championship is much less impressive in recent years, particularly since the decline of the Clare Club dominance of mid 90's

Cushendall have a fantastic defence, and a mobile midfield.  They also have the experience of winter training and how to maximise it effectiveness, a huge advantage of novices to the AI series and perhaps a big reason why Dunloy where able to beat both Mount Sion and Portumna

I envisage a low scoring game with goals being the difference, and say what you like about Cushendalls forwards they always seem to get goals, and goals at the right time.  I'm sure alot of work will have went into stopping Bull Phelan dominating play, if Cushendall can win the lions share of their own poc outs i am convinced they have the men to convert the scores.

Predictions

Cushendall 2:9
DLS 0:13

Portumna 2:14
Ballyhale 1:16
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 19, 2009, 02:01:10 PM
Max

I would agree with your reasoning for a Cushendall victory I think they have enough players who have been through the winter training programme which doesnt suit all teams to progress on the right side of the scoreline.

IMO they would also have enough devilment to rile up Mullane and stop him from concentrating on hurling, which is what DLS need him to do to lead the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
I think people are over egging the "riling" of Mullane, he isnt a Winker Watson type. His attitude seems to have improved the last couple of years, and he was the only Waterford player to come out of the All Ireland Final with credit, and he has had far better backs than the Cushendall backs trying to knock him off his game. If they can stifle him they will have a great chance but i still am not convinced there are enough scores from Cushendall at the other end of the pitch. They have had problems putting up the scores their play has merited all year and i dont think you can just turn it on like a tap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 19, 2009, 02:39:30 PM
Minder I wasnt over egging it, but in all fairness he is prone to the odd mad moment not like our liam but mad nonetheless.

Dont forget that this game is going to be 10mins shorter than the county games so even if he goes missing for part of that, it will be more significant that a inter county game.

To be honest I dont see him rising to any bait but will be a good contest regardless who is on him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 19, 2009, 03:13:04 PM
I don't think Cushendall backs will be out to target Mullane...of course they'll want to mark him tight but if they try to rough him up it could be a mistake as their discipline would go & in a low scoring game any scores from frees will be vital. Even looking back at the last few Cushendall v Loughgiel County finals Cushendall never resorted to hitting Watson...should be much too smart for that. Hopefully. I'd imagine they'd try to cut out the space Mullane enjoys. Parnell Park is a far smaller pitch than Thurles I'd have thought??

Mullane has improved his discipline alot since his red card V Cork in the Munster final 3 or 4 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 05:23:44 PM
Different topic

Railway Cup Hurling Semi Final 2009
Saturday February 21st
Throw in 2.30 pm

venue Casement Park Belfast

Ulster v Leinster
__________________
This is the team for Saturday,

Ulster Inter Provincial Hurling Team 2009

1
Ryan McGarry
Antrim

2
Ciaran McGourty
Antrim

3
Neill McGarry
Antrim

4
Mark Craig
Derry

5
Ciaran Herron
Antrim

6
Liam Hinphey
Derry

7
Johnny Campbell
Antrim

8
Andy Savage
Down

9
Brendan Herron
Antrim

10
Kevin Hinphey (Captain)
Derry

11
Brendan McGourty
Down

12
Paul Braniff
Down

13
PJ O'Connell
Antrim

14
Karl Stewart
Antrim

15
Paul Shiels
Antrim

16
Graham Clarke
Down

17
Michael Herron
Antrim

18
Eddie Mc Closkey
Antrim

19
Gabriel Clarke
Down

20
Ruairi Convery
Derry

21
Ruairi McGrattan
Down

22
Neill McAuley
Antrim

23
Joey Scullion
Antrim

24
Colm Duffin
Antrim

Does anyone else think this team is laughable? Looks like a who available squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2009, 05:26:27 PM
Will there be more supporters or players in Casement ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2009, 05:40:26 PM
i'm limbering up at the minute, training session tonight and i'm raing to go ;)

seems to me that Ulster will be playing a third midfielder in Paul Shiels. better than the last time where we go 15 on 15 and "give it a lash" we'll never beat these teams but christ keep the score down, gain a bit of confidence from our performance and hopefully it will translate into a good season (for the antrim players anyway) 

from a apersonal point of view, glad to see two Galls men on the team for sat. well done to both Ciaran McGourty and Karl Stewart.

oh and is this the first Ahoghill player to represent Ulster in Hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 19, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
Jesus MR, the lads where right, reading some of your postings you really are FULL OF S***, god help the squad listening to a team talk from you, especially from someone who has achieved nothing in the game!!!! Can,t wait to the start of this season, you should have applied for the position of South Antrim manager going into the c/ship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2009, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 19, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
Jesus MR, the lads where right, reading some of your postings you really are FULL OF S***, god help the squad listening to a team talk from you, especially from someone who has achieved nothing in the game!!!! Can,t wait to the start of this season, you should have applied for the position of South Antrim manager going into the c/ship.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2009, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: NonCharlatan on October 30, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 30, 2008, 06:07:49 PM
NC where are you?????? Getting lonely here, i think we should start our thread, How about "Real Antrim Hurlers"

Hi Sqaure

I'm game.  MAYBE WE SHOULD CALL IT, The Real Antrim Hurling Forum - for hurlers who hurled, bled, sweated and cried, and also know what they are talking about pertaining to hurling?

Wadda say?  I suppose you will have to ask fr MR's permission first.  PLEASE SIR (hand raised) can I .........!

certain traits here Mods!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
MR what training use doing tonight? Running session?

You must fancy yourselves to go all the way in the championship this year. Will you get the "footballers" out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2009, 09:46:15 PM
You can spot the retards a mile away,they could do a better job of reinventing themselves each time. Its getting a bit tiresome now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 19, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
MR what training use doing tonight? Running session?

You must fancy yourselves to go all the way in the championship this year. Will you get the "footballers" out?

a bit of yoga, followed by some pilates. down to the club for a curry and mind session with Paul McKenna.....

fancy ourselves? sure Rasharkin and St Pauls hammered us last year and Clooney Gaels should have beaten us along with Carey Faughs. looking to stay up this year and take it from there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 19, 2009, 11:08:26 PM
Hopefully there are no calls to ban me too cos im not as confident as some posters seem to be about Cushendalls hopes!!!

The popular assessment seems to be because De la Salle are 1st timers at this level that C'dall will have an edge over them but look at what DLS done in there last few games. They won their first ever co final and then a week later had to go to Pairc ui Chaoimh to face the Cork champs so they could have been forgiven for resting on their laurels but they came away from Cork with a win. Then in the Munster final they found themselves 7 points down and at the time i thought well thats the end for them but no they clawed there way back in. To me these guys have a lot of guts and in the club championship that counts for a lot. In terms of players they have one of the top forwards in the last 5 years in the country, Phelan has been on the W'ford panel since 92 and although Moran is relatively new to inter-county he was man of the match in last years Fitzgibbon Cup final so he has ability. Throw in an experienced former inter county keeper and some young boys in the subs with 1 or 2 All Ireland colleges medals and they look like a club going places.

C'dall kept L'giel, KL and Ballygalget to low scores and just about done enough at the other end to see them through so if their defence can restrict DLS and 1 or 2 forwards at the other end keep the score board ticking over then they are in with a shout however i fancy DLS to win by 3/4 points.

Of course it is pretty irrelevant because whoever wins in Thurles will win the final.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on February 20, 2009, 03:49:57 AM
up the doll, give er dixie hi !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 20, 2009, 08:29:45 AM
Quote from: TheDoc on February 19, 2009, 05:23:44 PM
Different topic

Railway Cup Hurling Semi Final 2009
Saturday February 21st
Throw in 2.30 pm

venue Casement Park Belfast

Ulster v Leinster
__________________
This is the team for Saturday,

Ulster Inter Provincial Hurling Team 2009

1
Ryan McGarry
Antrim

2
Ciaran McGourty
Antrim

3
Neill McGarry
Antrim

4
Mark Craig
Derry

5
Ciaran Herron
Antrim

6
Liam Hinphey
Derry

7
Johnny Campbell
Antrim

8
Andy Savage
Down

9
Brendan Herron
Antrim

10
Kevin Hinphey (Captain)
Derry

11
Brendan McGourty
Down

12
Paul Braniff
Down

13
PJ O'Connell
Antrim

14
Karl Stewart
Antrim

15
Paul Shiels
Antrim

16
Graham Clarke
Down

17
Michael Herron
Antrim

18
Eddie Mc Closkey
Antrim

19
Gabriel Clarke
Down

20
Ruairi Convery
Derry

21
Ruairi McGrattan
Down

22
Neill McAuley
Antrim

23
Joey Scullion
Antrim

24
Colm Duffin
Antrim

Does anyone else think this team is laughable? Looks like a who available squad


Does anyone care? This competitiin has been so devalued over the last while that it has been ridiculous and our managers have to take some of the blame in this when selecting the recent squads and players who hadnt even represented the county in that year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2009, 08:58:57 AM
As i said earlier there will be more players on the pitch than supporters in the ground. The Railway Cup should be put out of its misery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 20, 2009, 09:03:43 AM
I actually think it is a disgrace to run it the same weekend as the club semi finals, the clubs are the corner stone of the association and we should be promoting them as much as we can not adding any type of competition in one of the clubs big weekends.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 20, 2009, 10:26:47 AM
Thanks THE COLONEL, I was under the impression that the cushendall v DLS game was NOT on tv.  Deferred coverage you say?

I thought- TG4 were showing - Ballyhale V Portumna, with then deferred coverage of Corofin v Kilmacud in the football.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 20, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
Saturday, 21.02.2009
14:00   GAA Beo
Live and deferred coverage of Corofin (Galway) v Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin) and Dromcollogher-Broadford (Limerick) v Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) in the AIB All-Ireland Club Football Semi-Finals. Presented by Micheál Ó Domhnaill with commentary by Brian Tyers and Gearóid Mac Donncha.

Sunday, 22.02.2009
14:00   GAA Beo
Live and deferred coverage of Portumna (Galway) v Ballyhale Shamrocks (Kilkenny) and De La Salle (Waterford) v Cushendall (Antrim) in the AIB All-Ireland Club Hurling Semi-Finals. Presented by Micheál Ó Domhnaill with commentary by Brian Tyers and Mac Dara Mac Donncha.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 20, 2009, 12:02:45 PM

[/quote]
fancy ourselves? sure Rasharkin and St Pauls hammered us last year and Clooney Gaels should have beaten us along with Carey Faughs. looking to stay up this year and take it from there
[/quote]

I was thinking more about the intermediate championship, with dropping down and already 2 matches away from the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 20, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
Thanks THE DOC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 20, 2009, 02:25:07 PM
Any body got the betting the for the wkends semi final,

Id say bad bad leroy is that confident in a cushendall defeat he should be offering good odds!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2009, 04:25:17 PM
I think the football is on Saturday. I'm guessing it's working on the same basis as one live / one deferred too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 20, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
The bookies are also cofident of a Cushendall hammering they were offering 15/2,
Evens for a 9 point deficit!

My views on Cushendalls "prima donas" "pansies" are well know.  They are a big fish in the small antrim pond.  Some of their players have no guts when challenged...Read my assessment v Loughrea, and individual players.  Most players are "past it" but the Achilles heel of cushendall is the ball-less and gutless forwards. 

All will be revealed on sunday.  ;D


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 20, 2009, 05:56:14 PM
what bookies is giving that price Leroy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
Is it true that the ex St Johns manager is serving a monster ban at the minute, i heard this the other day that he was caught telling porkies at a disciplinary meeting. Dunno if this is old news or not........Anyone know anything about this great mystery?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 20, 2009, 10:08:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
Is it true that the ex St Johns manager is serving a monster ban at the minute, i heard this the other day that he was caught telling porkies at a disciplinary meeting. Dunno if this is old news or not........Anyone know anything about this great mystery?

tell minder, or pm

which incident was it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 20, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
i see magill is also out for 48 weeks. was only ever red carded once. playing bloody football, should f*cking ban that sport ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 20, 2009, 10:37:28 PM
I think Magill got off

QuoteAntrim dual star Michael Magill has expressed his relief that he escaped a possible 48 week because of an administrative error.

Magill came under scrutiny by the Association after it emerged that his transfer to London club Parnell's may not have been processed properly.

"I am relieved it is all over," said Magill. "The (London football) manager was on to me but I don't think I will be playing.

"I want to get on with enjoying the game playing with the club."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 20, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
Milltown row- check out
http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=601668&xpos=0#bottom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 20, 2009, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on February 20, 2009, 10:37:28 PM
I think Magill got off

QuoteAntrim dual star Michael Magill has expressed his relief that he escaped a possible 48 week because of an administrative error.

Magill came under scrutiny by the Association after it emerged that his transfer to London club Parnell's may not have been processed properly.

"I am relieved it is all over," said Magill. "The (London football) manager was on to me but I don't think I will be playing.

"I want to get on with enjoying the game playing with the club."

so will he play for antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 20, 2009, 11:28:23 PM
Quote
"I want to get on with enjoying the game playing with the club."
[/quote]

so will he play for antrim?
[/quote]

I doubt it. Sounds like he wants to enjoy his social life in London with a bit of club football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 06:57:56 AM
 A relative of the x-st johns manager abused a referee at a competition allegedly, and when asked gave his name as the x-st johns manager- bad move! Then croker asked the named aggressor to appear? x- st johns manger would,nt appear obviously as he was not involved- relative was told to do so and tell the real story, he supposedly then sent down a clone! The ref happened to be at the meeting and said " your not the lad i dealt with etc etc"- Croker then issued the club at Ibrox an ultimatum- people fall out, threats etc etc etc and now you have the present situation.................. Hope that sheds a bit of light on the case lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 06:57:56 AM
A relative of the x-st johns manager abused a referee at a competition allegedly, and when asked gave his name as the x-st johns manager- bad move! Then croker asked the named aggressor to appear? x- st johns manger would,nt appear obviously as he was not involved- relative was told to do so and tell the real story, he supposedly then sent down a clone! The ref happened to be at the meeting and said " your not the lad i dealt with etc etc"- Croker then issued the club at Ibrox an ultimatum- people fall out, threats etc etc etc and now you have the present situation.................. Hope that sheds a bit of light on the case lads.

I told ye all, them Noamh Eoin fellas, ya couldn't watch the fec****!  They are only OK when it's going their way. Must go back to saying my prayers, and also pray to the MODs, that I will not say anything which offends anyone on here.  You have to be carefull in here, the privileged few, seem to have the ear of the MOD.!  It seems only those at 'hero level' (Heros my ass!) may speak their mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
Just like the 'Shinners', I haven't gone awaya ya know!

Just on my way to Casement to watch Ulster and then off to Parnell in the morning.  How many of ye will be there.  Not too may I guess!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 06:16:41 PM
Just back from Casement.  A terrible waste of eight quid, an utter shambles of a performance by Uladh.  Himphey, Brendan McGourty, C. Herron absolutely woeful.
Heaven help us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 19, 2009, 05:26:27 PM
Will there be more supporters or players in Casement ?

Despite your negativity Minder, there was more supporters there than players.  I guess you were not one one of them though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 06:45:52 PM
WB Gabshite i think you have a real problem, i was at casement too, its a nothing competition thats a back door excuse to get a free holiday to sunnier climates! We have other more important issues at home that this exercise!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 06:58:55 PM
So Dark Knight! a Knight and and referee as well, bejaesus boys, we will really need to watch ourselves here.  Were you at the game today?  You would have seen a good referee from Limerick do a fine job. Denis Richardson was his name. You Antrim referees could have learned a lot by watching this fella Richardson.  Let the game flow throughout, no petty blowing of the whistle and all that aul nonsense.  Count Draculas mate was on the line (Magee, from Down) and Elliot (probably the best referee in the county) was doing the dolly bird thing.

By the way Dark Knight, what level do you referee at? U16, Minor, Junior, Intermediate, you sure could not be one of Senior boys, you sound too much like a smart and educated fella to be one of the those boyos. R U form North Antrim like me?

Just heading down to the fair city now for tomorrows game, I expecting my wee bet to come good tomorrow, Cushendall 15/2 + 5 points.  Got myself a score on today at Casement.

Knight, Knight Dark Knight. (more like Fec**** - Gladys Knight.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 06:45:52 PM
WB Gabshite i think you have a real problem, i was at casement too, its a nothing competition thats a back door excuse to get a free holiday to sunnier climates! We have other more important issues at home that this exercise!

Hi DH, sorry DK.  How come I am a Gobshite and how have I a problem by going to watch the Interpro match.  Were you  there ya boll**** ya.  How come you have so many opinions on everything and your coat still swinging on the door.  I was at the game, I suppose you like all the other great Antrim/Hurling supporters were not.  Probably away getting your hair highlights done and your legs waxed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 08:02:14 PM
I was at the game, you probably watched it from the bar!!! I doubt you paid £8 in, Jesus cant watch red nose night, theres a thought? Red nose-casement social, id sober up 1st before trying to stir the S*** on this site. Owen would,nt thank you for that tag although some of our supposed senior referees might, i can think of a few! MR might like that tag!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 08:08:35 PM
WB Gabs** your another one of these live and live, kiss my southern ass supporters, pandering to every whim across the boarder, you must be another lad that can only count up to 26 in school!!!! Subservient as always, you should have offered Richardson a pint after the game, he probably could,nt wait to blow the joint!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2009, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
I was at the game, I suppose you like all the other great Antrim/Hurling supporters were not.  Probably away getting your hair highlights done and your legs waxed.

Whats with the holier than thou shite stirring attitude wb?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 21, 2009, 11:01:54 PM
two nobs of the highest order
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 11:38:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2009, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
I was at the game, I suppose you like all the other great Antrim/Hurling supporters were not.  Probably away getting your hair highlights done and your legs waxed.

Whats with the holier than thou shite stirring attitude wb?


Excuse me pal, but I was referring to that pr**k 'The Dar Knight'.  He has been quite agressive with me for some reason or another.  It was him I was referring too about having his highlights done and his legs waxed.  Sounds like a real pan** to me.

Hi Miltown, do you have a problem with me chum? Whats with all this nob business. I suppose you would know all about nobs.  I notice you tend to be very vulgar in your messages making disparaging remarks about individuals who post on here.  Just curious why some of the language you use here is not monitored and approriate sanctions passed on you.  I have been reading some of your historical posts on this site and others on the GAA Board. You really are a foul mouthed sort of individual.  I just don't comprehend how you get away with it on here.  You must be a Pal of the 'Dark Knight' me thinks.  Very strange indeed!  You appear to be someone not to be trusted and worth the watching.  Ya, know the 'aul knives in the back' and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 22, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 12:18:22 AM
At the interpro today, gutted! I was very disappointed with all our lads, yet again when up against the top players we just are not good enough! Does anybody think that Neil Mcgarry will do at full back? He struggles against skillful players in my opinion. Brendan Herron is fit but has he got the skill to compete with div1 players?

I couldn't agree more Groundlie.  Neil McGaryy was found seriously wanting throughout the game, Eddie Brennan and Joe Bergin gave a bit of a roasting, if you ask me.  They were too physical for him and he was not at the races under the dropping ball.  Herron, failed on every first touch and fumbled anytime an opposing Laighin player came close to him he panicks easily and tends to shy away from things.

By the way, you were using very threatening language to me the last time I heard from you.  Something like, ("when my eyes were closed you were going to punch me" or words of that effect.  Typical Naomh Eoin man, eyes, closed, backed turned.  Whats with this aul nonsense?  You are beginning to sound like that cretan, 'The Dark Knight'.  I think he and you may be closely linked in some way. Are you another referee?  I am a pacafist friend, I can do without the threatening langauge, if you please.

Isn't mobile tencnology superb!  Just been to mass, having my breakfast here in Malahide, nice fry and coffee, (Much better than thon TK One you Belfast people rave about) and sifting through my emails and surfing the net. Then heading down to the match in Parnell.  Jeasus boys, thing are getting very dear in Dublin, near £12 for a coffee and a fry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on February 22, 2009, 10:14:28 AM
Lads catch a grip, your beginning to destroy the site again, just to say Good Luck to Cushendal heading down myself and staying home for a few days, us jacks in the north would love to see the lads go through!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 22, 2009, 10:18:09 AM
Quote from: davincicode on February 22, 2009, 10:14:28 AM
Lads catch a grip, your beginning to destroy the site again, just to say Good Luck to Cushendal heading down myself and staying home for a few days, us jacks in the north would love to see the lads go through!!

I would love to see them win Dav, but I am just not so sure they are up to the mark from the 3/4 line in.  I did not know ye were a 'Jack'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wbgaa1885 on February 22, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 08:02:14 PM
I was at the game, you probably watched it from the bar!!! I doubt you paid £8 in, Jesus cant watch red nose night, theres a thought? Red nose-casement social, id sober up 1st before trying to stir the S*** on this site. Owen would,nt thank you for that tag although some of our supposed senior referees might, i can think of a few! MR might like that tag!!!!!!!!

For your information DK. I did pay in, I am not like ye referees who free load it at every match you attend in the county and Ulster,  big meals, travelling, best of gear, freebies from Ulster Council and Croke Park.  Also for your information, I would not spend a penny in the casement bar.  However, I would rather be a 'Red nose' as you put it than a 'brown nose' like some of you referees. But I suppose, you are not up in the 'big league refereeing' yet, serving your time at junior and intermediate level I guess!  Whats your problem with Owen Elliot also, a bit of jealousy maybe.  Thats the sort of standard of refereeing you apprentice referees should be aspiring to.  Well, 'the tag' fits with Owen in my opinion! He is the best referee in the county and has been overlooked in recent years for the County Hurling Finals if you ask me.  Duffy, Mathews and McAuley are close seconds to Owen.

Why do people need to be so agressive on here? >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: davincicode on February 22, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
In exile WBGAA1885, got landed a few years back with the job up here, fair to say i really enjoy it now, i feel for Antrim hurling and i believe the problems from what i see and genuine peoples opinions are totally from within. Antrims strong clubs can play anywhere on this island of ours and be in the top 10 in both codes, which proves the clubs are doing exactly what they should be doing. Its when in hits the county stage that it all goes wrong! Now in my thinking thats not as big a problem as some posters and the general supporters think, i believe that the county should do a full clear out from top to bottom, these people have been too long in the job and have achieved nothing, Dublin continually clean house every few years and now in the hurling we are beginning to reap the benefit. I think the Dal lads will win which should prove my point. Have to head WB, enjoyed the exchange, and keep it cool!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 22, 2009, 12:07:20 PM
Good luck to cushendall.  Hopefully do the buisness and get to the final.  From everyone at bredagh gac.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 05:46:24 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 22, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 12:18:22 AM
At the interpro today, gutted! I was very disappointed with all our lads, yet again when up against the top players we just are not good enough! Does anybody think that Neil Mcgarry will do at full back? He struggles against skillful players in my opinion. Brendan Herron is fit but has he got the skill to compete with div1 players?

I couldn't agree more Groundlie.  Neil McGaryy was found seriously wanting throughout the game, Eddie Brennan and Joe Bergin gave a bit of a roasting, if you ask me.  They were too physical for him and he was not at the races under the dropping ball.  Herron, failed on every first touch and fumbled anytime an opposing Laighin player came close to him he panicks easily and tends to shy away from things.

By the way, you were using very threatening language to me the last time I heard from you.  Something like, ("when my eyes were closed you were going to punch me" or words of that effect.  Typical Naomh Eoin man, eyes, closed, backed turned.  Whats with this aul nonsense?  You are beginning to sound like that cretan, 'The Dark Knight'.  I think he and you may be closely linked in some way. Are you another referee?  I am a pacafist friend, I can do without the threatening langauge, if you please.

Isn't mobile tencnology superb!  Just been to mass, having my breakfast here in Malahide, nice fry and coffee, (Much better than thon TK One you Belfast people rave about) and sifting through my emails and surfing the net. Then heading down to the match in Parnell.  Jeasus boys, thing are getting very dear in Dublin, near £12 for a coffee and a fry!

Take no heed of me, I was quoting a comedy genius in will farrell!

Well yet again the dall fail. DLS where poor and Portumna will tear them to pieces in the final. Yet again certain Dall players do not live up to all the hype in the press about their past glorys against poor club sides. On the other hand McManus, Graffin, Magill and A Delargy can hold their heads high.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 22, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 05:46:24 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 22, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 12:18:22 AM
At the interpro today, gutted! I was very disappointed with all our lads, yet again when up against the top players we just are not good enough! Does anybody think that Neil Mcgarry will do at full back? He struggles against skillful players in my opinion. Brendan Herron is fit but has he got the skill to compete with div1 players?

I couldn't agree more Groundlie.  Neil McGaryy was found seriously wanting throughout the game, Eddie Brennan and Joe Bergin gave a bit of a roasting, if you ask me.  They were too physical for him and he was not at the races under the dropping ball.  Herron, failed on every first touch and fumbled anytime an opposing Laighin player came close to him he panicks easily and tends to shy away from things.

By the way, you were using very threatening language to me the last time I heard from you.  Something like, ("when my eyes were closed you were going to punch me" or words of that effect.  Typical Naomh Eoin man, eyes, closed, backed turned.  Whats with this aul nonsense?  You are beginning to sound like that cretan, 'The Dark Knight'.  I think he and you may be closely linked in some way. Are you another referee?  I am a pacafist friend, I can do without the threatening langauge, if you please.

Isn't mobile tencnology superb!  Just been to mass, having my breakfast here in Malahide, nice fry and coffee, (Much better than thon TK One you Belfast people rave about) and sifting through my emails and surfing the net. Then heading down to the match in Parnell.  Jeasus boys, thing are getting very dear in Dublin, near £12 for a coffee and a fry!

Take no heed of me, I was quoting a comedy genius in will farrell!

Well yet again the dall fail. DLS where poor and Portumna will tear them to pieces in the final. Yet again certain Dall players do not live up to all the hype in the press about their past glorys against poor club sides. On the other hand McManus, Graffin, Magill and A Delargy can hold their heads high.



Is there any need for snide remarks? They gave it their all, and are no doubt gutted. As an Antrim man I feel gutted myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 22, 2009, 06:18:56 PM
Should have won it in the first 60. Young Carson had a golden opportunity to nail a point or win a free in the 60th minute but kept running in despite the angle getting narrower and narrower. A point would have made it a 3 point game and all but over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 22, 2009, 07:34:17 PM
No snide remarks from me just stating facts. You's are quick to down belfast hurling so I'll say whats true. Some dall players performed others didnt. Hard luck to the dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 22, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
All-Ireland club SHC: Deise men sneak past Cushendall


De La Salle (Waterford) 1-21
Cushendall (Antrim) 1-19
(After Extra-Time)

By Cóilín Duffy

First time Waterford and Munster champions De La Salle secured an All-Ireland Club SHC Final berth at the first-time of asking after an 81st minute John Mullane point ensured a two-point victory after extra-time in an epic semi-final against Antrim's Cushendall.

This Parnell Park encounter was cast in the shadows of the other semi-final in the lead up to this weekend's action - Portumna and James Stephens at Semple Stadium billed as a potential classic, yet it was De La Salle and Cushendall who provided the best wine.

End to end hurling with some fine excellent scores in a game which was allowed flow freely, and a red card for Cushendall's Declan McKillop in the 43rd minute the only dent on an otherwise spectacular encounter.

There wasn't a body left in Cushendall such was their strength in numbers from early afternoon, while a De La Salle special train provided by Iarnrod Éireann was also a sell-out. This ensured a bumper crowd at the Donnycarney venue.

And the Waterford city faithful certainly had much to shout about in the early stages with Dean Twomey setting the early tone after he bagged the opening score, a well-worked goal after four minutes to give De La Salle an early lead.

De La Salle continued to dominate possession in the opening quarter, and although they had amassed four wides before the interval, they held a deserved 1-4 to 0-4 lead by the 21st minute, with Cushendall keeping in touch through Karl McKeegan, Neil McManus and Sean Delargy.

With four minutes remaining in the opening half Twomey's early goal continued to separate the sides but De La Salle were marooned in the closing stages as a trio of points for Cushendall including a Karl McKeegan brace levelled the tie at 0-9 to 1-6 at the interval.

Tempers began to heat up a little bit on the resumption with yellow cards shown to Cushendall's McKillop and Bryan Phelan of De La Salle inside the first minute.

McKillop would see a red card 12 minutes later, but in the interim his side showed well and thanks to a fourth McKeegan point, and a 37th minute Shane McNaughton goal - the Glensmen took a 1-10 to 1-7 advantage.

But they were forced to battle bravely for the remainder of normal time as Bryan Phelan's scoring exploits from placed balls continued to yield positively for the first-time semi-finalists.

However a Neil McManus score edged Cushendall into a two-point lead with three minutes remaining, but with Daniels and Phelan on target De La Salle secured extra-time at 1-14 apiece.

Both sides continued to be well matched in the first period of extra-time as the sides traded point for point until the 66th minute before De La Salle broke away with scores from Lee Hayes and Mullane to ensure a 1-18 to 1-16 interval lead.

Cushendall responded well on the restart, outscoring their opponents by two points to one inside five minutes, but De La Salle weren't to be denied an All-Ireland final berth and a late 81st minute Mullane point secured victory.

De La Salle - S Brenner; A Kelly, I Flynn, M Doherty; D Russell, K Moran, S Daniels (0-1); B Phelan (0-6, 4f, 2sideline), C Watt; P Nevin (0-2), D McGrath (0-1), L Hayes (0-3); J Quirke (0-1), J Mullane (0-5), D Twomey (1-0). Subs: T Kearney for Quirke (40); D Greene (0-1) for Kelly (44); A Kelly for McGrath (ET); B Farrell (0-1) for Watt (67); J Foran for Hayes (80)

Cushendall - F McAuley; A Graffin (0-1), O Scullion, C Carson; D McNaughton, K Elliott, M McCambridge; K McKeegan (0-5, 4f, 1 65), P McGill (0-1); B Delargy, D McKillop, S Delargy (0-1); S McNaughton (1-1), N McManus (0-4), A Delargy (0-3). Subs: C McCambridge (0-3, 1f) for C Carson (21); C Carson for B Delargy (59); M Burke (Introduced for ET); E Laverty for S McNaughton (67); B Delargy for A Delargy (67); J Carson for Elliot (76)

Ref - Eamon Morris (Dublin)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 22, 2009, 08:53:43 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 11:38:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2009, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: wbgaa1885 on February 21, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
I was at the game, I suppose you like all the other great Antrim/Hurling supporters were not.  Probably away getting your hair highlights done and your legs waxed.

Whats with the holier than thou shite stirring attitude wb?


Excuse me pal, but I was referring to that pr**k 'The Dar Knight'.  He has been quite agressive with me for some reason or another.  It was him I was referring too about having his highlights done and his legs waxed.  Sounds like a real pan** to me.

Hi Miltown, do you have a problem with me chum? Whats with all this nob business. I suppose you would know all about nobs.  I notice you tend to be very vulgar in your messages making disparaging remarks about individuals who post on here.  Just curious why some of the language you use here is not monitored and approriate sanctions passed on you.  I have been reading some of your historical posts on this site and others on the GAA Board. You really are a foul mouthed sort of individual.  I just don't comprehend how you get away with it on here.  You must be a Pal of the 'Dark Knight' me thinks.  Very strange indeed!  You appear to be someone not to be trusted and worth the watching.  Ya, know the 'aul knives in the back' and all that.

was i referring to you? very touchy

knives in the back????? your talking about what? 

i've no problem with you, i don't even know you so calm down. if ya want to meet and discuss  then i'm all ears
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on February 22, 2009, 11:48:45 PM
unlucky to the Dall, as far as I m concerned they did Antrim hurling proud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on February 23, 2009, 08:40:22 AM
Much as i hate to admit it, Cushendall did do Antrim hurling proud.  They were unlucky not to win in 60mins, the sending off was the turning point.  But despite that-the forward that ran through towards the end should have done better.  If he had done anything else.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 23, 2009, 08:57:12 AM
I have to say that cushendall missed there chance big time yesterday. It did come down to a lack of scoring power as was suggested on here numerous times.

The switch of SD to half forward didnt work although he did compete better than most in that area. DmcK did very very little up until the sending off which IMO didnt really affect the game overall. Cushendall had to get the next score after Shanes goal and if I am correct it wasnt to be. McManus showed his quality and if it hadnt been for him then cushendall would have struggled to anything goin forward. I know it is very hard to criticise at this point but when you look back at a couple of chances AD had at the start of the game less that 45 out and pretty central and both dropped short to the keeper. Very costly.

I have to say that they battled very hard and worked like demons but they didnt have that ruthless edge to their game when it comes to the big time matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on February 23, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
bad luck Cushendall very unluckly you did Antrim hurling proud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 23, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
Quote from: TheDoc on February 22, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
All-Ireland club SHC: Deise men sneak past Cushendall


De La Salle (Waterford) 1-21
Cushendall (Antrim) 1-19
(After Extra-Time)

By Cóilín Duffy

First time Waterford and Munster champions De La Salle secured an All-Ireland Club SHC Final berth at the first-time of asking after an 81st minute John Mullane point ensured a two-point victory after extra-time in an epic semi-final against Antrim's Cushendall.

This Parnell Park encounter was cast in the shadows of the other semi-final in the lead up to this weekend's action - Portumna and James Stephens at Semple Stadium billed as a potential classic, yet it was De La Salle and Cushendall who provided the best wine.

End to end hurling with some fine excellent scores in a game which was allowed flow freely, and a red card for Cushendall's Declan McKillop in the 43rd minute the only dent on an otherwise spectacular encounter.

There wasn't a body left in Cushendall such was their strength in numbers from early afternoon, while a De La Salle special train provided by Iarnrod Éireann was also a sell-out. This ensured a bumper crowd at the Donnycarney venue.

And the Waterford city faithful certainly had much to shout about in the early stages with Dean Twomey setting the early tone after he bagged the opening score, a well-worked goal after four minutes to give De La Salle an early lead.

De La Salle continued to dominate possession in the opening quarter, and although they had amassed four wides before the interval, they held a deserved 1-4 to 0-4 lead by the 21st minute, with Cushendall keeping in touch through Karl McKeegan, Neil McManus and Sean Delargy.

With four minutes remaining in the opening half Twomey's early goal continued to separate the sides but De La Salle were marooned in the closing stages as a trio of points for Cushendall including a Karl McKeegan brace levelled the tie at 0-9 to 1-6 at the interval.

Tempers began to heat up a little bit on the resumption with yellow cards shown to Cushendall's McKillop and Bryan Phelan of De La Salle inside the first minute.

McKillop would see a red card 12 minutes later, but in the interim his side showed well and thanks to a fourth McKeegan point, and a 37th minute Shane McNaughton goal - the Glensmen took a 1-10 to 1-7 advantage.

But they were forced to battle bravely for the remainder of normal time as Bryan Phelan's scoring exploits from placed balls continued to yield positively for the first-time semi-finalists.

However a Neil McManus score edged Cushendall into a two-point lead with three minutes remaining, but with Daniels and Phelan on target De La Salle secured extra-time at 1-14 apiece.

Both sides continued to be well matched in the first period of extra-time as the sides traded point for point until the 66th minute before De La Salle broke away with scores from Lee Hayes and Mullane to ensure a 1-18 to 1-16 interval lead.

Cushendall responded well on the restart, outscoring their opponents by two points to one inside five minutes, but De La Salle weren't to be denied an All-Ireland final berth and a late 81st minute Mullane point secured victory.

De La Salle - S Brenner; A Kelly, I Flynn, M Doherty; D Russell, K Moran, S Daniels (0-1); B Phelan (0-6, 4f, 2sideline), C Watt; P Nevin (0-2), D McGrath (0-1), L Hayes (0-3); J Quirke (0-1), J Mullane (0-5), D Twomey (1-0). Subs: T Kearney for Quirke (40); D Greene (0-1) for Kelly (44); A Kelly for McGrath (ET); B Farrell (0-1) for Watt (67); J Foran for Hayes (80)

Cushendall - F McAuley; A Graffin (0-1), O Scullion, C Carson; D McNaughton, K Elliott, M McCambridge; K McKeegan (0-5, 4f, 1 65), P McGill (0-1); B Delargy, D McKillop, S Delargy (0-1); S McNaughton (1-1), N McManus (0-4), A Delargy (0-3). Subs: C McCambridge (0-3, 1f) for C Carson (21); C Carson for B Delargy (59); M Burke (Introduced for ET); E Laverty for S McNaughton (67); B Delargy for A Delargy (67); J Carson for Elliot (76)

Ref - Eamon Morris (Dublin)



As I've watched both semi-finals from the comfort of my armchair, so they'll not carry as much weight as some other gaels but what ta heck, I'll give my tuppence worth anyway.

Stating the obvious but Cushendall did blow it again and it was that lack of forward power which we all knew might be their achilles heel let them down.
Graffin and Kevin Elliott were superb in defence throughout. I sitll don't understand the Dall tactic of deploying an extra forward down the field, at some point even Conor McCambridge was in his own halfback line, spotted Aidan Delargy as well. I'd suggest that with your forward division a man short the ball out of defence needs to be more measured and a lot of good ground hurling did hit the spaces where Shane Mcnaughton and Sean Delargy did get some joy against a slower, beefier defence, but a lot of the time the ball was hit up the middle where it was at best a 50/50 ball. Neil McManus is undoubtedly a fine hurler and athelite but he needs to get a position and grow into it as the better teams at AI club level and intercounty level won't let him run 30 to 40 yards through the middle of a defence.
if he gets a chance to watch the way Joe Canning made time, space and scores for his colleagues in the other semi-final yesterday and was able to vary his game when the need arose.
Disappointed for the Dall as in so many aspects of the game yesterday they were better than their opposition but just failed to get that vital score in normal time.

As for the referee, i thought he was poor enough and stimied whatever flow was in the game for needlessly blowing frees when a player had either escaped the tug and about to deliver their clearance and allowed a few individuals to 'buy' easy free's by going down quite easy.

all the same it'l be hard to look past Portumna in the final as they have quality hurlers all over the park and their team work yesterday was something to behold from a club team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 23, 2009, 10:51:28 AM
For my tuppence worth i state the bloody obvious to start, Cushendall should have won in normal time and DLS will have serious trouble being competitive with Portumna

I thought the Dall did themselves proud, you can't always be guaranteed to play well but you can control your effort and intensity and the number of blocks and hooks the dall defence put in was testament to their excellent appetite for the game.  They did look to be suffering from the jitters, particularly early days and both the excellent Neil McManus and Aiden Delargy missed chances early days when the dall where playing with a strong wind behind them.

Aaron Graffin was terrific through out, and his block on Mullane was incredible as was his wonder point.  Sean Delargy, Kevin Elliott, Odhran Scullion and Micky mcCambridge all performed well, Karl mcKeegan wasn' his usual self and cushendall suffered as a result

neil mcmanus was excellent, as good for the Dall as Phelan was for DLS.  The only problem he has is being shifted around so much, i think he's a better defender but Cushendall and Antrim probaly need him in attack, so line him there and allow him to develop as a playmaker as well as a ball winner.

Aiden Delargy's point just before he went off was fantastic

At the game i though McKillop was unlucky with the red card, on TV it looked a cert and while he wasn't having a huge effect on the game it meant the other forwards had to work so hard, any wonder some where down with cramp, when McNaughton and Delargy both went off it perhaps signalled the end of the Dalls serious scoring threat

Dissapointed for them, was impressed with their attitude and there young stars in Graffin and McManus certainly lived up to their billing, just needed a bit more punch in half forwards and more strength on bench
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 23, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Max what did you make of the referee?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 23, 2009, 11:01:29 AM
thought he was fair enough to be honest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 23, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
Yeah I have to say I thought so myself, there were a few dodgy calls boths ways.

I also think that he isnt a top ref and that is one of the reasons why he always seems to end up refereeing the northern sides. He would have been well out of his depth in the other semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 23, 2009, 11:40:34 AM
I would agree with that, didn't really see the incident shortly after the red card which led to the dall men around shouting for sending off.

Cushendall also had a fairly hefty support with them, biggest i've seen them carry for a long time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on February 23, 2009, 03:09:51 PM
Walking out the gate of Parnell and seeing sambo with tears in his eyes brought a lump to my throat. Hard luck to the dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 23, 2009, 03:19:28 PM
I think there will be a few more tears today when they realise what a chance yesterday presented for them. Must be tough to take.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
Disappointed for Cushendall, should have put them away. Thought they played well with the 14 men but could not hold on for the final whistle. Graffin was top class. Super fit and did a serious amount of running. Noticed that him, McManus and Sean Delargy never cramped so I'd have to ask questions as to why AD and Shane were having problems. Going into that game you have to have all your main players in the peak condition.

The Dall's bench didn't have the influence needed to change the match also. Thought if they had have sent McManus in on his own at full forward then he'd have made a difference. He'd have won high ball and low ball going in.
Karl went walkies. Fumbled most balls and missed two frees. He won a lot more ball when he played deeper in the extra time. For me he is a defender and nothing else. More confident with defending the ball coming at him. However, it's easy to pick holes in a team after the match.

If they match that intensity come championship this year then they will win the Volunteer Cup again.

Great atmosphere at the ground also so hats off to all the supporters who went down. Seemed to be a good sprinkling of all the Belfast and north Antrim clubs and some Derry clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 23, 2009, 04:50:02 PM
Have to say its a long long time since I was so disappointed coming out of a game.

Thought the Dall should have done it in ordinary time. If Carson had taken his point/drawn the foul as he ran through at the end, it might well have been a different story!

Very impressed with Neil McManus, Aaron Graffin and Sean Delargy. Think the first two in particular could make a serious impact nationally if they keep going as they are - Enda McEvoy of the Tribune has certainly picked up on Mc Manus already. Have a (fading) memory of McManus doing extremely well on Joe Canning at an All Ireland Minor Quarter Final which Antrim should have won in Mullingar.

Thought Karl McKeegan had a very quiet game. Would agree that he is much better facing the ball.

Cushendall's lifting was very poor at times, particularly in the forwards. Not helped at all by a very "rutty" pitch but still, two, three, four goes at lifting was not great. Thought Shane McNaughton was particularly bad in this regard.

The Dall also lacked that bit of luck when executing a great hook or block - on a good number of occasions the ball would just run to a DLS man.

Haven't heard James McNaughton's comments criticising the referee but I don't think he was particularly bad (or good for that matter). Would like to see McKillop's swing that led to the sending off again. It's always a bit more dramatic when the recipient hasn't a helmet but on the other hand Mc Killop already had a yellow and had to be careful.

One Cushendall partisan behind me was incensed at what he was describing as kicks to Cushendall players on the ground on several occasions, but hand on heart I just didn't see them.

Thought Cushendall's puc-outs were very ropey. I appreciate there was a significant wind but a couple dropped very short and were sent straight back over.

Anyway, is it Wexford this Sunday? Will any of the Dall boys be back?


Quote from: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
Disappointed for Cushendall, should have put them away. Thought they played well with the 14 men but could not hold on for the final whistle. Graffin was top class. Super fit and did a serious amount of running. Noticed that him, McManus and Sean Delargy never cramped so I'd have to ask questions as to why AD and Shane were having problems. Going into that game you have to have all your main players in the peak condition.

The Dall's bench didn't have the influence needed to change the match also. Thought if they had have sent McManus in on his own at full forward then he'd have made a difference. He'd have won high ball and low ball going in.
Karl went walkies. Fumbled most balls and missed two frees. He won a lot more ball when he played deeper in the extra time. For me he is a defender and nothing else. More confident with defending the ball coming at him. However, it's easy to pick holes in a team after the match.

If they match that intensity come championship this year then they will win the Volunteer Cup again.

Great atmosphere at the ground also so hats off to all the supporters who went down. Seemed to be a good sprinkling of all the Belfast and north Antrim clubs and some Derry clubs.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 23, 2009, 04:54:09 PM
Have to dispel this myth of the sending off, it doesnt matter that the guy wasnt wearing a helmet a blow to the head is not acceptable no matter how light. The fact that some referee's and coaches/ players think that it is ok to slap a guy round the head because he is wearing a helmet is not on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 23, 2009, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: NAG on February 23, 2009, 04:54:09 PM
Have to dispel this myth of the sending off, it doesnt matter that the guy wasnt wearing a helmet a blow to the head is not acceptable no matter how light. The fact that some referee's and coaches/ players think that it is ok to slap a guy round the head because he is wearing a helmet is not on.

Don't get me wrong NAG, I totally agree that a swing to a helmeted head is just as bad and equally as punishable.

I'm just saying that there is a little bit more of an "oooooh!!!!!" factor when the player is helmet-less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
certainly a DLS player stamped on McManus after the referee had already awarded a free against Cushendall in the second half. this led to the DLS player getting yellow carded and the free then given to Cushendall.

as for the "swing" to the head of the DLS player there was no swing and the "hallon" made a meal out of it to be honest.  i think McKillop was reaching around to take the ball off his stick and was unfortunate.

referee maybe blew easily sometimes but had no major shouts. players on yellow cards need to be carefull in each tackle McKillop wasn't.

for a neutral it was well worth the money paid in.

just a note about Cushendalls problems in front of goal, they scored 1-16 in normal time, thats not bad for this time of year. what did the mighty Ballyhale Shamrocks score yesterday in Thurles? remember they were odds on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
It was 1-13 in normal time i think Milltown and just 1-4 in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
Carson got a kick too after that run where he maybe could have got something. They weren't particularly dirty LaSalle - number 12 aside who was a dirty animal.

I don't think McKillop meant it - he was unfortunate to have been booked already. It merited a booking though so the ref had no choice.

The ref was poor. On the balance of it I thought Cushendall had to work that wee bit harder for their frees. Shane McNaughton, who cushendall needed more from to win that game to be honest, on a couple of occassions when he couldn't lift the ball was getting fouled.

It's as bad as I've felt after a match in a long time too - it'd have been easier to take getting hammered. They showed a tremendous spirit.The one pleasing thing could be said is that Graffin and McManus are two players of genuine quality and look as good as anything that has come out of antim in years.

That's against a very strong breeze in the second half minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
1 -14 at Full time, both wrong :D

strong wind Cushendall played against in the second half and as someone pointed out the keeper dropped some short. DLS keeper hit Phelan every time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 23, 2009, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
1 -14 at Full time, both wrong :D

strong wind Cushendall played against in the second half and as someone pointed out the keeper dropped some short. DLS keeper hit Phelan every time

Fairly sure your wrong MR, 1-13 apiece. i remember saying to the guy beside me unlucky 13 for Cushendall.

would agree with the accolades for Graffin and McManus, could prove the backbone of a very successful period for Cushendall.

Just a note of interest, Antrim have some equisite defenders in the 20/21 bracket at the minute, Graffin, McManus, Paul Shields & Neal McAuley are as good a half backs as you will find and other like Barry McFall, Randal McDonnell & Hippy Donnelly all have potential.  its just a pity Antrim need to make forwards out of some of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
De La Salle (Waterford) 1-21
Cushendall (Antrim) 1-19
(After Extra-Time)

By Cóilín Duffy

First time Waterford and Munster champions De La Salle secured an All-Ireland Club SHC Final berth at the first-time of asking after an 81st minute John Mullane point ensured a two-point victory after extra-time in an epic semi-final against Antrim's Cushendall.

This Parnell Park encounter was cast in the shadows of the other semi-final in the lead up to this weekend's action - Portumna and James Stephens at Semple Stadium billed as a potential classic, yet it was De La Salle and Cushendall who provided the best wine.

End to end hurling with some fine excellent scores in a game which was allowed flow freely, and a red card for Cushendall's Declan McKillop in the 43rd minute the only dent on an otherwise spectacular encounter.

There wasn't a body left in Cushendall such was their strength in numbers from early afternoon, while a De La Salle special train provided by Iarnrod Éireann was also a sell-out. This ensured a bumper crowd at the Donnycarney venue.

And the Waterford city faithful certainly had much to shout about in the early stages with Dean Twomey setting the early tone after he bagged the opening score, a well-worked goal after four minutes to give De La Salle an early lead.

De La Salle continued to dominate possession in the opening quarter, and although they had amassed four wides before the interval, they held a deserved 1-4 to 0-4 lead by the 21st minute, with Cushendall keeping in touch through Karl McKeegan, Neil McManus and Sean Delargy.

With four minutes remaining in the opening half Twomey's early goal continued to separate the sides but De La Salle were marooned in the closing stages as a trio of points for Cushendall including a Karl McKeegan brace levelled the tie at 0-9 to 1-6 at the interval.

Tempers began to heat up a little bit on the resumption with yellow cards shown to Cushendall's McKillop and Bryan Phelan of De La Salle inside the first minute.

McKillop would see a red card 12 minutes later, but in the interim his side showed well and thanks to a fourth McKeegan point, and a 37th minute Shane McNaughton goal - the Glensmen took a 1-10 to 1-7 advantage.

But they were forced to battle bravely for the remainder of normal time as Bryan Phelan's scoring exploits from placed balls continued to yield positively for the first-time semi-finalists.

However a Neil McManus score edged Cushendall into a two-point lead with three minutes remaining, but with Daniels and Phelan on target De La Salle secured extra-time at 1-14 apiece.
Both sides continued to be well matched in the first period of extra-time as the sides traded point for point until the 66th minute before De La Salle broke away with scores from Lee Hayes and Mullane to ensure a 1-18 to 1-16 interval lead.

Cushendall responded well on the restart, outscoring their opponents by two points to one inside five minutes, but De La Salle weren't to be denied an All-Ireland final berth and a late 81st minute Mullane point secured victory.

De La Salle - S Brenner; A Kelly, I Flynn, M Doherty; D Russell, K Moran, S Daniels (0-1); B Phelan (0-6, 4f, 2sideline), C Watt; P Nevin (0-2), D McGrath (0-1), L Hayes (0-3); J Quirke (0-1), J Mullane (0-5), D Twomey (1-0). Subs: T Kearney for Quirke (40); D Greene (0-1) for Kelly (44); A Kelly for McGrath (ET); B Farrell (0-1) for Watt (67); J Foran for Hayes (80)

Cushendall - F McAuley; A Graffin (0-1), O Scullion, C Carson; D McNaughton, K Elliott, M McCambridge; K McKeegan (0-5, 4f, 1 65), P McGill (0-1); B Delargy, D McKillop, S Delargy (0-1); S McNaughton (1-1), N McManus (0-4), A Delargy (0-3). Subs: C McCambridge (0-3, 1f) for C Carson (21); C Carson for B Delargy (59); M Burke (Introduced for ET); E Laverty for S McNaughton (67); B Delargy for A Delargy (67); J Carson for Elliot (76)

Ref - Eamon Morris (Dublin)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2009, 09:07:38 PM
Not that im a petty man MIlltown but i have the match on Sky + and checked the fulltime score. It was 1-13 apiece...........  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 23, 2009, 10:33:12 PM
Sunday, 12th April Easter  If any team wishes the day free then the game will be played on Wednesday 15th April      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 1   St. John's v Loughgiel   14.30
   Ballygalget v Cushendall   14.30
   Ballycastle v Ballycran   14.30
   Dunloy v Portaferry   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 1   As above   
Division 2 Hurling Rd 1   Clooney Gaels v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Shane O'Neill's v St. Gall's   14.30
   St. Paul's v Tir na n'Og   14.30
   Rossa v Glenariffe   14.30

Division 3 Hurling Rd 1   Carey v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   St. Brigid's C v St. Teresa's   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Cushendun   14.30
   Rasharkin v Armoy   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 1   St. Agnes' v Bredagh   14.30
   Glenravel v All Saints   14.30
   St. Enda's v St. Gall's   14.30
Division 4B Hurling Rd 1   Larne v Creggan   14.30
   St. Brigid's v Sarsfield's   14.30
   Davitt's v Ardoyne   14.30
   McDermott's v Bye   14.30
Sunday, 26th April         
Division 1 Hurling Rd 2   Loughgiel v Ballygalget   14.30   
   Portaferry v Ballycastle   14.30   
   Ballycran v Dunloy   14.30   
   Cushendall v St. John's   14.30   
Division 1 Reserve Rd 2   As above      
Division 2 Hurling Rd 2   Gort na Mona v Shane O'Neill's   14.30   
   Glenariffe v St. Paul's   14.30   
   Tir na n'Og v Rossa   14.30   
   St. Gall's v Clooney Gaels   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 2   Lamh Dhearg v St. Brigid's C   14.30
   Armoy v Sarsfield's   14.30
   Cushendun v Rasharkin   14.30
   St. Teresa's v Carey   14.30

Sunday, 26th April   Game   Time
Division 4A Hurling Rd 2   Bredagh v Glenravel   14.30
   St. Gall's v St. Agnes'   13.00
   All Saints v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   Bye v St. Enda's   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 2   Creggan v St. Brigid's   14.30
   Bye v Davitt's   14.30
   Ardoyne v McDermott's   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Larne   14.30   
Sunday, 3rd May      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 3   St. John's v Portaferry   14.30
   Dunloy v Loughgiel   14.30
   Ballycastle v Cushendall   14.30
   Ballygalget v Ballycran   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 3   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 3   Clooney Gaels v Glenariffe   14.30
   Rossa v Gort na Mona   14.30
   St. Paul's v St. Gall's   14.30
   Shane O'Neill's v Tir na n'Og   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 3   Carey v Armoy   14.30
   Rasharkin v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   Sarsfield's v St. Teresa's   14.30
   St. Brigid's C v Cushendun   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 3   St. Agnes' v Bredagh   14.30
   St. Enda's v All Saints   14.30
   Glenrravel v St. Gall's   14.30
Sunday, 3rd May   Game   Time
Division 4B Hurling Rd 3   Larne v Bye   14.30
   Creggan  v  McDermotts   14.30
   Davitt's v Sarsfield's   14.30
   St. Brigid's v Ardoyne   
Division 6 Football Rd 4   Mitchel's v Lisburn   14.00
   Tir na n'Og v Rossa   14.00
   Bye v Moneyglass   
Wednesday, 6th May      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 4   Ballycran v St. John's   19.30
   Loughgiel v Ballycastle   19.15
   Portaferry v Ballygalget   19.15
   Cushendall v Dunloy   19.15
Division 1 Reserve Rd 4   As above   18.00
   Ballycran v St. John's   18.15
Division 2 Hurling Rd 4   Tir na n'Og v Clooney Gaels   19.15
   Gort na Mona v St. Paul's   19.15
   Glenariffe v Shane O'Neill's   19.15
   St. Gall's v Rossa   19.15
Division 3 Hurling Rd 4   Cushendun v Carey   19.15
   Lamh Dhearg v Sarsfield's   
   Armoy v St. Brigid's C   
   St. Teresa's v Rasharkin   
Division 4A Hurling Rd 4   Bredagh v St. Enda's   19.15
   All Saints v St. Agnes'   19.15
   St. Gall's v Bye   
   Bye v Glenravel   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 4   Ardoyne v Larne   19.15
   Creggan v Davitt's   19.15
   Bye v St. Brigid's   19.15
   Sarsfield's v McDermott's   19.15
Wednesday, 13th May      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 5   St. John's v Ballygalget   19.30
   Loughgiel v Cushendall   19.15
   Ballycastle v Dunloy   
   Ballycran v Portaferry   
Division 1 Reserve Rd 5   As above   
   St. John's v Ballygalget   18.15
Division 2 Hurling Rd 5   Clooney Gaels v Shane O'Neill's   19.15
   Gort na Mona v St. Gall's   19.15
   St. Paul's v Rossa   19.15
   Tir na n'Og v Glenariffe   19.15
Division 3 Hurling Rd 5   Carey v St. Brigid's C   19.15
   Lamh Dhearg v St. Teresa's   19.15
   Sarsfield's v Rasharkin   19.15
   Cushendun v Armoy   19.15
Division 4A Hurling Rd 5   Bredagh v All Saints   19.15
   St. Enda's v St. Agnes'   19.15
   Bye v Glenravel   
   St. Gall's v Bye   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 5   Larne v St. Brigid's   19.15
   Creggan v Sarsfield's   19.15
   Davitt's v McDermott's   19.15
   Ardoyne v Bye   19.15
Sunday, 24th May      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 6   Dunloy v St. John's   14.30
   Portaferry v Loughgiel   14.30
   Ballygalget v Ballycastle   14.30
   Cushendall v Ballycran   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 6   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 6   Rossa v Clooney Gaels   14.30
   Glenariffe v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Shane O'Neill's v St. Paul's   14.30
   St. Gall's v Tir na n'Og   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 6   Rasharkin v Carey   14.30
   Armoy v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   St. Brigid's C v Sarsfield's   14.30
   St. Teresa's v Cushendun   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 6   St. Agnes' v Bye   
   Bye v Bredagh   
   Glenravel v St. Enda's   14.30
   All Saints v St. Gall's   14.30
Division 4B Hurling Rd 6   Larne  v  McDermotts   14.30
   Bye v Creggan   14.30
   St. Brigid's v Davitt's   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Ardoyne   14.30

Wednesday, 27th May      
Division 3 Hurling Rd 7   Carey v Sarsfield's   19.15
   Cushendun v Lamh Dhearg   19.15
   St. Brigid's C v Rasharkin   19.15
   Armoy v St. Teresa's   19.15
Division 4A Hurling Rd 7   Bye v St. Enda's   
   St. Gall's v Bredagh   19.15
   Glenravel v St. Agnes'   19.30
   Bye v All Saints   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 7   Larne v Davitt's   19.15
   Ardoyne v Creggan   19.15
   St. Brigid's v McDermott's   19.15
   Bye v Sarsfield's   19.15
Saturday 20th June      
Division 3 Hurling Rd 8   Lamh Dhearg v Carey   
   St. Teresa's v St. Brigid's C   
   Cushendun v Sarsfield's   
   Armoy v Rasharkin   
Division 4A Hurling Rd 8   All Saints v Glenravel   15.30
   St. Gall's v St. Enda's   15.30
   Bredagh v Bye   
   Bye v St. Agnes'   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 8   Creggan v Larne   
   Sarsfield's v St. Brigid's   15.30
   Ardoyne v Davitt's   15.30
   Bye v McDermott's   15.30

Sunday, 12th July      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 7   St. John's v Ballycastle   14.30
   Ballycran v Loughgiel   14.30
   Ballygalget v Dunloy   14.30
   Portaferry v Cushendall   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 7   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 7   Clooney Gaels v St. Paul's   14.30
   Tir na n'Og v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Shane O'Neill's v Rossa   14.30
   Glenariffe v St. Gall's   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 9   St. Brigid's C v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Armoy   14.30
   Rasharkin v Cushendun   14.30
   Carey v St. Teresa's   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 9   Glenravel v Bredagh   14.30
   St. Agnes' v St. Gall's   14.30
   St. Enda's v Bye   
   Bye v All Saints   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 9   St. Brigid's v Creggan   14.30
   Davitt's v Bye   14.30
   McDermott's v Ardoyne   14.30
   Larne v Sarsfield's   14.30
Sunday, 2nd August      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 8   Loughgiel v St. John's   14.30
   Cushendall v Ballygalget   14.30
   Ballycran v Ballycastle   14.30
   Portaferry v Dunloy   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 8   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 8   Gort na Mona v Clooney Gaels   14.30
   St. Gall's v Shane O'Neill's   14.30
   Tir na n'Og v St. Paul's   14.30
   Glenariffe v Rossa   14.30
Sunday, 8th August      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 9   Ballygalget v Loughgiel   14.30
   Ballycastle v Portaferry   14.30
   Dunloy v Ballycran   14.30
   St. John's v Cushendall   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 9   As above   13.00
Wednesday, 19th August      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 10   Portaferry v St. John's   19.45
   Loughgiel v St. John's   19.45
   Cushendall v Ballycastle   19.45
   Ballycran v Ballygalget   19.45
Division 1 Reserve Rd 10   As above   18.30
Division 2 Hurling Rd 9   Shane O'Neill's v Gort na Mona   19.15
   St. Paul's v Glenariffe   19.30
   Rossa v Tir na n'Og   19.30
   Clooney Gaels v St. Gall's   19.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 10   Armoy v Carey   19.15
   Lamh Dhearg v Rasharkin   19.30
   St. Teresa's v Sarsfield's   19.15
   Cushendun v St. Brigid's C   19.15
   Bredagh v St. Agnes'   19.15
   All Saints v St. Enda's   19.30
   St. Gall's v Glenravel   19.30
Division 4B Hurling Rd 10   Bye v Larne   19.30
   Cregan v McDermott's   19.30
   Sarsfield's v Davitt's   19.15
   Ardoyne v St. Brigid's   19.15
Wednesday, 26th August      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 11   St. John's v Ballycran   19.30
   Ballycastle v Loughgiel   19.30
   Ballygalget v Portaferry   19.30
   Dunloy v Cushendall   19.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 11   As above   18.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 10   Glenariffe v Clooney Gaels   19.15
   Gort na Mona v Rossa   19.15
   St. Gall's v St. Paul's   19.15
   Tir na n'Og v Shane O'Neill's   19.15
Division 3 Hurling Rd 11   Carey v Cushendun   19.15
   Sarsfield's v Lamh Dhearg   19.15
   St. Brigid's v Armoy   19.15
   Rasharkin v St. Teresa's   19.15
Wednesday, 26th August      
Division 4A Hurling Rd 11   St. Enda's v Bredagh   19.00
   St. Agnes' v All Saints   19.15
   Bye v St. Gall's   
   Glenravel v Bye   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 11   Larne v Ardoyne   19.15
   Davitt's v Creggan   19.15
   St. Brigid's v Bye   19.15
    Sarsfield's  v McDermotts   18.00
Sat. 19th September      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 12   Ballygalget v St. John's   14.30
   Cushendall v Loughgiel   14.30
   Dunloy v Ballycastle   14.30
   Portaferry v Ballycran   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 12   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 11   Clooney Gaels v Tir na n'Og   14.30
   St. Paul's v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Shane O'Neill's v Glenariffe   14.30
   Rossa v St. Gall's   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 12   St. Brigid's v Carey   14.30
   St. Teresa's v Lamh Dhearg   14.30
   Rasharkin v Sarsfield's   14.30
   Armoy v Cushendun   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 12   All Saints v Bredagh   14.30
   St. Agnes' v St. Enda's   14.30
   Glenravel v Bye   
   St. Gall's v Bye   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 12   St. Brigid's v Larne   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Creggan   14.30
   McDermott's v Davitt's   14.30
   Bye v Ardoyne   14.30
Sunday, 11th October      
Division 2 Hurling Rd 12   Shane O'Neill's v Clooney Gaels   14.30
   St. Gall's v Gort na Mona   14.30
   Rossa v St. Paul's   14.30
   Glenariffe v Tir na n'Og   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 13   Carey v Rasharkin   14.30
   Lamh Dhearg v Armoy   14.30
   Sarsfield's v St. Brigid's C   14.30
   Cushendun v St. Teresa's   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 13   St. Enda's v Glenravel   14.30
   St. Gall's v All Saints   14.30
   Bye v St. Agnes'   
   Bredagh v Bye   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 13   Larne v McDermott's   14.30
   Creggan v Bye   14.30
   Davitt's v St. Brigid's   14.30
   Ardoyne v Sarsfield's   14.30
Saturday, 17th October      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 13   St. John's v Dunloy   14.30
   Loughgiel v Portaferry   14.30
   Ballycastle v Ballygalget   14.30
   Ballycran v Cushendall   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 13   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 13   Clooney Gaels v Rossa   14.30
   Gort na Mona v Glenariffe   
   St. Paul's v Shane O'Neill's   14.30
   Tir na n'Og v St. Gall's   14.30
Division 3 Hurling Rd 14   Sarsfield's v Carey   14.30
   Lamh Dhearg v Cushendun   14.30
   Rasharkin v St. Brigid's   14.30
   St. Teresa's v Armoy   14.30
Division 4A Hurling Rd 14   Bredagh v St. Gall's   14.30
   St. Agnes' v Glenravel   14.30
   St. Enda's v Bye   
   All Saints v Bye   
Division 4B Hurling Rd 14   Davitt's v Larne   14.30
   Creggan v Ardoyne   14.30
    St. Brigid's  v  McDermotts   14.30
   Sarsfield's v Bye   13.00
Saturday, 24th October      
Division 1 Hurling Rd 14   Ballycastle v St. John's   14.30
   Loughgiel v Ballycran   14.30
   Dunloy v Ballygalget   14.30
   Cushendall v Portaferry   14.30
Division 1 Reserve Rd 14   As above   13.00
Division 2 Hurling Rd 14   St. Paul's v Clooney Gaels   14.30
   Gort na Mona v Tir na n'Og   14.30
   Rossa v Shane O'Neill's   14.30
   St. Gall's v Glenariffe   14.30

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2009, 11:03:54 PM
Am I the only one that can't understand why young conor carson is getting scapegoated for cushendalls defeat yesterday. Granny, balls, granda or what? Jesus the lad is only out of minor and doesn't need that shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 23, 2009, 11:31:21 PM
Haven't heard or read too much criticism of Carson. He shouldn't be a scapegoat but still he should have tried to tap it over the bar.

Couldnt understand C'dalls tactic of playing a spare man at the back with the breeze behind them in the 1st half. Too much ball kept going to the DLS spare man but they persisted with it. DLS went missing for about 10 mins in the middle of the 2nd half before and after the C'dall goal including 4 bad wides. C'dall needed to get their lead up to 5/6 points but they didnt. You can get away with that in the county championship against a Glenariffe, Rossa or L'giel but not at national level. Tough on the Dall cos they had a lot of good performances on the day but they didnt take their chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2009, 11:42:24 PM
I'd agree with you skull - he's young and there can be so many ifs and buts. If McCambridge had scored, if McManus had put in the goal etc etc

Carson is young and could be very good in time - he's not even a forward.

Would also agree with FH - the first twenty minutes was when they lost it I felt. So much aimless ball in there and how they gave that goal away still not sure.

There's a lot to be proud of from that performance though. They were very unfortunate and hopefully they get stronger from it. Conor McCambridge and potentially AD, though I don't think so, are the only ones who they may lose but hopefully they lose none of them.

Shan McNaugthon, Carson, McManus and Graffin are still developing too. More forwards reuired though. If young brick were to play again that would help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 24, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
What was the idea behind playing a spare man back around the defence? I seriously think it wasnt needed as this is one of the best combined defensive units at any leve of club hurling, they knew their weakness was up front and should have known that bringing the extra man back was going to aggrevate the problem further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 24, 2009, 03:17:58 PM
from bbc website, what was the specific incident here?

Hurling boss handed 12-month ban 
Armagh hurling manager Michael Johnston has been handed a 48-week touchline ban after being found guilty of verbally abusing an official during a club game.

The St John's club-man was only recently appointed to the job after Mattie Lennon stood down from the role.

Prior to Johnson's appointment, Armagh officials were aware he was likely to be handed a ban but the hefty duration of the suspension was unexpected.

Despite Johnson's ban, he will remain on in the Orchard County job.

As a result of the ban, Johnson was not in the dugout for Armagh's opening NHL game against Derry, which resulted in a 1-10 to 1-10 draw.

Armagh will be back in action against Kildare in Keady on Saturday and Johnson is expected to be in stand, with Antrim hurling chairman Paul Kelly and assistant-boss John Crossey undertaking the sideline duties.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 24, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
I think the severity of ban was more to do with the fact he was caught telling porkies at a disciplinary hearing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 24, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
A rough auld ban all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 24, 2009, 03:46:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 24, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
I think the severity of ban was more to do with the fact he was caught telling porkies at a disciplinary hearing.

Did he have difficulty remembering his name or something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 24, 2009, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
De La Salle (Waterford) 1-21
Cushendall (Antrim) 1-19
(After Extra-Time)

By Cóilín Duffy


However a Neil McManus score edged Cushendall into a two-point lead with three minutes remaining, but with Daniels and Phelan on target De La Salle secured extra-time at 1-14 apiece.

Haven't seen the game, but you should know better than to base your evidence on what this boy writes. My money's on 1-13 each.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 24, 2009, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 24, 2009, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 23, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
De La Salle (Waterford) 1-21
Cushendall (Antrim) 1-19
(After Extra-Time)

By Cóilín Duffy


However a Neil McManus score edged Cushendall into a two-point lead with three minutes remaining, but with Daniels and Phelan on target De La Salle secured extra-time at 1-14 apiece.

Haven't seen the game, but you should know better than to base your evidence on what this boy writes. My money's on 1-13 each.

Your money is safe then SS2, i recorded the match and checked the full time score last night. Indeed it was 1-13 each
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 24, 2009, 03:58:21 PM
There must be something in the water up the Whiterock, they seem to have problems with names, dates of births, trivial things like that..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 24, 2009, 04:22:41 PM
I think this ban was coming to him for a number of reasons. Firstly the feile debacle staying the hotel, the over age player incident and the acutal offence itself, I think the initial ban was 24 if I am correct and this was extended on appeal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 24, 2009, 04:45:31 PM
St Johns could/should be punished also for allowing Johnson to give the false name of a member of St Johns club and for allowing the individual go down to Croke Park and take the punishment for Johnson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2009, 04:57:31 PM
Said it before .....GAA values and ethics where????



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 25, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
From todays IN


Antrim prepared to wait on seven Allianz National Hurling League
By Eamonn O'Hara
25/02/2009

TERENCE 'Sambo' McNaughton doesn't need to ask if the seven Cushendall hurlers who are with the county panel are in the mood to set aside their shattered All-Ireland hopes and take a crack at trying to boost Antrim's promotion chances on Sunday.

One of their key rivals, Wexford, who they took two points off at Dunloy last season, make the trek to Casement Park for a crucial second round tie in Division Two of the National League.

The Ulster champions could do with as near to a full-strength squad to draw from, but joint-manager McNaughton knows, from the bitter experience of several club semi-finals during his playing days, to ask nothing and leave the players to say when.

Neil McManus, the Cushendall star man in a thrilling game against Waterford De La Salle lost heart-breakingly after extra-time, Aaron Graffin, who wasn't far behind him in the player ratings, Sambo's son Shane, Karl McKeegan, Paddy McGill, Mickey McCambridge and Sean Delargy are the seven who could be welcomed back to the county squad this week.

If they were up for trying to work the frustration of seeing a first All-Ireland final appearance slip from their grasp by a combination of missed chances, hard luck, Bryan Phelan's sensational line ball cut for an equaliser in injury-time, a red card and some debated refereeing, well and good.

McNaughton appreciates the massive boost they would give if available for the Wexford game, but said that he and fellow manager Dominic McKinley have decided to give the playerswhatever time they feel they need.

Emotions are still raw.

Sambo said: "We are leaving it up to them. We will not be putting pressure on them either way. Woody and myself talked about it and it's entirely up to the seven players themselves when they'll join up with the squad. We will not be asking them. It will be their decision.

"After a game like that on Sunday, it's devastating for them at the minute. What a way to lose it. It was Roy of the Rovers stuff. I thought it was a brilliant game, some entertainment to be fair.

"There was everything in it but to lose another semi-final like that is devastating. Our attitude has always been that the seven players will come back when they are ready."

The management are keeping an eye on the fitness of Neil McGarry. The squad trained last night and will work out under lights at Tir na nOg tomorrow.

McGarry sustained a recurrence of an ankle injury two weeks ago but it is hoped he will be fit for selection.

Unavailable for the first round win at Down, Dunloy forward Paddy Richmond is back in the mix to face Wexford and could bolster an attack that didn't offer too much threat at Portaferry.

Antrim's attack sparked a bit with the introduction of Eddie McCloskey then. He had been troubled with an injury but is fully fit, as is Cormac Donnelly.

"The reality is the performance against Down will not do against Wexford and everyone is under no illusion about that," said Sambo.

"We are trying now to get a bit more hurling done. We haven't been able to get out on a pitch too often under lights.

"We have had problems getting clubs to allow the county squad to use their floodlit facilities.

"Creggan have been good to us but it's astroturf we are using so we need to get out on a pitch to get a bit of hurling done.

"Randalstown have given us their pitch for Thursday night, which is decent of them. Randalstown have stepped up to the plate for us."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 25, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
Any suggestions for the team on sunday then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 25, 2009, 04:07:13 PM
Johnston sacked by Armagh according to HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 25, 2009, 04:11:55 PM
Dont think they could do anything else, or be seen to be doing anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on February 25, 2009, 04:19:58 PM
Armagh confirm Johnson sacking
25 February 2009


Armagh have confirmed that Michael Johnson has been dismissed as manager of the Orchard County senior hurling team.

The St John's, Belfast clubman was hit with a 48-week touchline ban earlier this week for verbally abusing an official during a club game, and it was originally mis-reported that he would be staying on at the Orchard helm.

County secretary Paddy Nugent has clarified that hurling board chairman Paul Kelly will stay on as acting manager, with John Crossley as trainer.

Nugent also rejected Tuesday's media reports that Armagh knew their new manager was facing a ban, insisting: "As soon as we heard of this suspension, we told him that he would no longer be involved."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 25, 2009, 04:35:16 PM
no messing about with Armagh.

very tough on Janty. Armagh will struggle to get a more committed manager, and it will be their loss. they managed a draw with Derry last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 25, 2009, 04:37:03 PM
MR whats tough about it?

He is suspended and therefore unable to perform the duties of a manage and if he hadnt of spoofed and tried to have it cleared up by others then he might have got away with half the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
Is that what is deemed as "acceptable" in the GAA up in Belfast milltown?  :-\

Maybe Armagh have put principles ahead of any measure of the worth that that individual would be to their future success. A correct descision IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2009, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
Is that what is deemed as "acceptable" in the GAA up in Belfast milltown?  :-\

Maybe Armagh have put principles ahead of any measure of the worth that that individual would be to their future success. A correct descision IMO.


Doubt principles came into it and he got the road simply because he couldn't lead the team effectively from behind the wire. I'd have been shocked if he had been kept on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 25, 2009, 08:14:50 PM
not acceptable anywhere Skull, but considering what other high profile managers and players for that matter get away with on tv. players like Paul Galvin managed to knock the book out of  a referee's hand and still managed to play in a All Ireland final that same summer.

if it's all true I'm not justifying it
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on February 25, 2009, 11:18:53 PM
Norman descendent Damien Fitzhenry (Fitz from the French fils meaning Mac) will be back in nets for the Strawberries visit to Casey. A rap at the barracks could be on the cards from Mackers in the event of Wexford getting a penalty.
Title: Re: Cluiche
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 26, 2009, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: drici on February 25, 2009, 11:18:53 PM
Norman descendent Damien Fitzhenry (Fitz from the French fils meaning Mac) will be back in nets for the Strawberries visit to Casey. A rap at the barracks could be on the cards from Mackers in the event of Wexford getting a penalty.

Think Sunday is a really big indicator of where we are going this year. Bit of a shame that we didn't get the match against Westmeath under our belts before hand. I always think games against Down are more of a local dog fight with the Ardsmen always lifting it a bit against us to be a true reflection of standards.

Wexford have run up a couple of very big scores and will be wary enough of us after last year in Dunloy (could we not take them up to Carey or Cushendun or something?).

Would like to have (at least a few of) the Cushendall lads back, but given that I'm still on a downer after that game, I can understand why they might want to give it a skip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on February 26, 2009, 01:10:08 PM
I know that the lads will be gutted completely by last weekends result but sure that result will still be the same in 5-6 weeks 5-6 years time, IMO I would have thought it would have been good to get back involved with the antrim set up and get stuck into the NHL. Just my opinion I know it would be different maybe in their shoes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 26, 2009, 04:58:34 PM
   

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from hoganstand

McManus set for quick Antrim return
26 February 2009


Neil McManus is set to line out for Antrim in Sunday's NHL clash with Wexford - just seven days after his club Cusdenhall suffered a heartbreaking All-Ireland semi-final defeat to De La Salle.



McManus has decided to make a quick return to the inter-county fold after speaking to Antrim's joint-manager Terence 'Sambo' McNaughton and also to his father.

"I was chatting to 'Sambo' last night and he said that he would be putting no pressure on me to return to Antrim," he said.

"But if I wanted to be involved against Wexford on Sunday, I'd need to be at training on Thursday night. I was talking to my da and he said that I should go back sooner rather than later. 'Sambo' and 'Woody' (Dominic McKinley) have been very good to me and a lot of boys owe them plenty, so I'll probably go back this weekend."

Cushendall's other county players, Karl McKeegan, Mickey McCambridge, Sean Delargy, Aaron Graffin, Shane McNaughton and Paddy McGill, are expected to return to the county colours soon.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on February 27, 2009, 09:57:15 AM
Quote from: NAG on February 24, 2009, 04:22:41 PM
I think this ban was coming to him for a number of reasons. Firstly the feile debacle staying the hotel, the over age player incident and the acutal offence itself, I think the initial ban was 24 if I am correct and this was extended on appeal.

Could someone please explain what exactly he done (or is supposed to have done) to receive a 48 week ban.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 01, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
Anyone for Casement today?? Important match for Antrim today...but i'll I think we'll struggle for scores today(as usual). Wexford have named a strong team & have hit up big scores in first two matches...so going more in hope than expectation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 05:40:25 PM
aye i was at the match but i'm struggling to explain the match. very strange. dont know if we were good or Wexford were shite. we scored 4-16 which is a great score but in the first ten minutes we were down 3 goals and before halftime we let in another one. McGarry and McKinney had games to forget and i suppose with the win we might forget about their performance. though i doubt it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 01, 2009, 05:55:26 PM
It was a strange one alright,why the hell are they playing young Mc Kinley when he isnt a regular on the Dunloy team? They are doing him no favours and he was well out of his depth today. The full back line was all over the place until Sean Delargy went back. I thought Mc Gourty was ropey too,he didnt seem to want to clear the ball himself he was always looking for a short pass. I thought Wexford were gonna beat us out the gate in the first half but they hit some bad wides when they had a chance to get out of sight. Strange game but a good win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on March 01, 2009, 06:05:23 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 05:40:25 PM
aye i was at the match but i'm struggling to explain the match. very strange. dont know if we were good or Wexford were shite. we scored 4-16 which is a great score but in the first ten minutes we were down 3 goals and before halftime we let in another one. McGarry and McKinney had games to forget and i suppose with the win we might forget about their performance. though i doubt it.


Where was Mc Garry playing ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 01, 2009, 06:13:43 PM
Neil Mc Garry from Loughguile at full back he means Orangeman. He was all over the place, settled a bit better in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 01, 2009, 06:19:46 PM
It is a funny old game alright. Wexford were just running through us in the first 10/15 mins & then started messing about, started showboating & hitting some bad wides by which time Antrim got themelves sorted out with young Woody getting put out of his misery & Sean Delargy moving back. Both teams guilty of bad wides, poor striking, bad options...at one stage in the 2nd half it seemed as if no-one wanted to win it. Why did Antrim keep persisting with stupid short passing & short puc outs which got us in trouble on countless occasions. But fair play they fought back well to win it at the end with McManus running things & PJ O' Connell hitting two good goals. Great result..dont know how they won as it looked as if we were going to get hammered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 01, 2009, 06:28:05 PM
From www.antrimgaa.net

Antrim 4-16 Wexford 4-12
01 March 2009
Antrim hurlers staged a remarkable comeback as they battled back from nine points down to beat Wexford by four in Sunday's Allianz National Hurling League Division Two clash at Casement Park.
When the visitors struck with four first half goals to give the scoreboard a surreal look (4-1 to 1-1) Antrim's chances of a win seemed remote, but a couple of substitutions, and positional switches, steadied the ship and by half-time they were in a much healthier position, trailing by just three points, their second goal coming from a Kieran Kelly twenty metre free.
It still appeared to be an uphill task for the Saffrons as they resumed against a fresh breeze, but they turned in a magnificent second-half display to record a remarkable win.
PJ O'Connell, who had scored his team's opening goal in the second minute of the first half, grabbed a second and Neill McManus blasted one in from the penalty spot to seal a superb win.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 07:02:55 PM
Thats strange one, Pinky took and scored a 21 yard free. Then mc manus took and scored a penalty. Did pinky come off? Where did they play mc manus?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
pinky came off injured. great player but not what he was.

thought McGourty had another decent game. he'll be getting it tough for his position once Graffin gets back but has done nothing wrong this year

McManus played really well very strong a bit aggressive which i like as long as its not getting him booked

ballycastles McAuley at centre half has done well in the games i've seen so far

the hurling referees are doing well with the black book yellow card rules. not too many being sent off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
pinky came off injured. great player but not what he was. In what way is he not what he was, havent seen him play in a while. What did he injury? Thats a blow for ballycastle if its something major

thought McGourty had another decent game. he'll be getting it tough for his position once Graffin gets back but has done nothing wrong this year. Another man keeping a spot warm, cant see sambo not playing a dall man first.

McManus played really well very strong a bit aggressive which i like as long as its not getting him booked. Great player plenty of passion, where was he playing today?

ballycastles McAuley at centre half has done well in the games i've seen so far. Very consistant, tidy hurler two great sides

the hurling referees are doing well with the black book yellow card rules. not too many being sent off.

Is young hippy playing county this season? Was joey scullion playing today?
Cant believe im going to ask this, but here goes, Is there any sign of a return of w*nker watson?

At club level,
Have ballycastle appointed a manager yet?
Are the dall going to change there management from what was in place?
Who do the dall play in there next game?

So many questions....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:28:42 PM
hippy was there but not on the final named panel, Scullion came on for PJ OConnell

Ballycastle? don't know that one

Cushendall? think there is a change of management this year as for who they play, away to Ballygalget on easter sunday

as for watson, cant see him playing under current management
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
which one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:33:49 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:28:42 PM
hippy was there but not on the final named panel, Scullion came on for PJ OConnell - good to hear

Ballycastle? don't know that one - Dont think they know ethier

Cushendall? think there is a change of management this year as for who they play, away to Ballygalget on easter sunday

as for watson, cant see him playing under current management - fair play

One more, was mc manus playing centre forward?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:34:28 PM
as if ;)

he didn't look happy today coming on, do him and Sambo not get on?

aye McManus was centre forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:35:16 PM
The Saffrons fought back from nine points down to win this Allianz NHL Division Two game at Casement Park.

PJ O'Connell netted to give Antrim the perfect start but Wexford hit back with goals from Stephen Doyle, Eoin Quigley and Dermot Lyng (2).

Kieran Kelly's goal started the comeback and at half-time Wexford held a 4-6 to 2-9 lead.

Brendan Herron and Neil McManus goals put Antrim ahead and they went on to secure their second win in two games.

Wexford made a bright start to the second half and they were twice denied by two excellent saves from Ryan McGarry.

The visitors also had a goal disallowed because of a square ball before Antrim hit two goals in two minutes.

The outstanding Herron found the net before Cushendall youngster McManus converted a penalty.

Herron scored the last point of the game to cap a fine individual display and seal the points for the Ulster team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7917785.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7917785.stm)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:35:16 PM
The Saffrons fought back from nine points down to win this Allianz NHL Division Two game at Casement Park.

PJ O'Connell netted to give Antrim the perfect start but Wexford hit back with goals from Stephen Doyle, Eoin Quigley and Dermot Lyng (2).

Kieran Kelly's goal started the comeback and at half-time Wexford held a 4-6 to 2-9 lead.

Brendan Herron and Neil McManus goals put Antrim ahead and they went on to secure their second win in two games.

Wexford made a bright start to the second half and they were twice denied by two excellent saves from Ryan McGarry.

The visitors also had a goal disallowed because of a square ball before Antrim hit two goals in two minutes.

The outstanding Herron found the net before Cushendall youngster McManus converted a penalty.

Herron scored the last point of the game to cap a fine individual display and seal the points for the Ulster team.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7917785.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7917785.stm)

i thought O'Connell got two goals and pink and McManus got one each. brendan herron did score a quality point at the death but was guilty of some bad misses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 01, 2009, 08:41:43 PM
Dont think Brendan Herron got a goal, PJ O Connell got two, Pinky and Mc Manus both also got one. In fairness its no wonder peole get confused listening to some of the clowns at the match, when O Connell got his second the chap beside me told me Karl Stewart scored it, i told him i think it was O Connell, he told me i was "mistaken big lad". Sean Delargy scored a great point near the end and his mate informed anyone that would listen that was "Sambos son scored that point".......  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:42:46 PM
Sounds like it was a smashing game! wish i coulda seen it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
i don't know if it was exciting certainly great for antrim to beat one of their Lenister rivals ;) but sets them up now to go on and win the league

but a bizarre match. what was woody at putting his son on the wee lad was embarrassed coming off, is a starter on the Dunloy team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 01, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 01, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
i don't know if it was exciting certainly great for antrim to beat one of their Lenister rivals ;) but sets them up now to go on and win the league

but a bizarre match. what was woody at putting his son on the wee lad was embarrassed coming off, is a starter on the Dunloy team?

Thats shocking him playing his son, bais has no place in hurling, ooo wait!!  :D

While are main lenister rivals getting beat today, i fancy us to bring lenister home.... to ulster  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 01, 2009, 09:39:25 PM
'Clute O'Connell'...that's brilliant  :D  :D!! UTV teletext page 471 have him down as 'Antrim Winger'!!! In fairness to him he scored a great goal v Kilkenny & took his second goal v.well today

Westmeath match next week at home??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 01, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Very enjoyable if strange game, I got held up getting there and arrived just in time to see Wexford score a goal to make it 4-02 to 1-02. Someone I knew was sitting nearby so I asked what was happening and he told me Wexford were much to strong physically and we were in for a tanking. After I came in Antrim outscored Wexford 3-14 to 0-12 which is some turnaround especially as Wexford had whatever wind was in it in the second half.
Positives great heart to pull the game out of the fire, Neal McAuley loked good and is a good addition from last year, Karl Stewart lead the attack well and showed good pace. Paul Shiels hurled well and his free taking was better than against the cats, vitally important for any team. PJ O Connell took his second goal well, didnt see the first and scored a good point near the finish, Sean Delargy was top notch, great reading of the game and has the courage to gamble and get out in front of his man.
Negatives some of the short passing in defence nearly gave me heart failure and resulted in a lot of lost possesion. Wexford completely took over for about 10 minutes towards the end of the game but could not score, missed two good goal chances ( good saves by Ryan McGarry ) and hit two or three awful wides including one from an easy free.
Overall really enjoyed the match, 4-16 is good shooting for the 1st March still a few Cdall players to come back in which will help things. Personally the best thing was the self belief of the players to fight back. It is not very often Antrim teams show that so when they do they need praised for it. Antrim have a real shot at promtion now although Offaly and Laois will provide stiff enough tests. Biffos probably favourites for promotion tonight although we normally do OK against them. Antrim have to go to Offaly dont they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 01, 2009, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 01, 2009, 09:45:51 PM
Make sure you go to Tullamore, slow corner back. You're a lucky charm.

Im not seen them loose plenty, my young boy however has only seen them play three times, Laois a few years back (won) ;) and Wexford in dunloy last year and again today. I am gona send him to tullamore he can tell me about it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on March 02, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
Good win yesterday again wexford  :)

Is next game  Carlow away, on 22nd march? One game at a time.  Let us not think of Offaly until 19th april.

The 2 Cushendall lads did well, Mcmanus and delargey.  Everyone knows my dislike of cushendall, but good that they playedyesterday after last weeks disappointment. 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 02, 2009, 08:14:18 PM
me thinks your really from the Dall Leroy ;)

next game is this Sunday at Casement against Westmeath (rearranged game)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dutch on March 03, 2009, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: leroy brown on March 02, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
Good win yesterday again wexford  :)

Is next game  Carlow away, on 22nd march? One game at a time.  Let us not think of Offaly until 19th april.

The 2 Cushendall lads did well, Mcmanus and delargey.  Everyone knows my dislike of cushendall, but good that they playedyesterday after last weeks disappointment. 8)

now now leroy...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 03, 2009, 05:06:14 PM

Quote from: the colonel on March 03, 2009, 05:01:17 PM
with another game this weekend, if more cushendall players became available would they be selected? maybe a move for SD to corner back and young woody dropped?

Think that has to happen. McGourty will be under pressure from Graffin as well, you'd think.

Mind you, are UUJ in the Ryan Cup Finals this weekend (think semis on Friday and final on Saturday)? There is a sizeable Antrim contingent there - will they make themselves available on Sunday??

It would be very Antrim-esque to blow it against Westmeath, having done so well against Wexford!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 03, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Would be
(1) a tough weekend for McManus and Graffin if UUJ won through to the Ryan Cup final and they were asked to play all; and
(2) tough enough on the players that got UUJ to there if those boys were to come back in.
Will be interesting to see what happens.
I believe that Greg O'Kane is really impressing as a trainer out there.


Milltown - asked a query there on the All Ireland Club website.
"At a free/sideline - can a player not stand with his arms and therefore stick in the air without moving? Is it the moving bit that is a free?"
Just thought I'd bring the query to you rather than have you go looking for it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on March 03, 2009, 05:58:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 03, 2009, 05:06:14 PM

Quote from: the colonel on March 03, 2009, 05:01:17 PM
with another game this weekend, if more cushendall players became available would they be selected? maybe a move for SD to corner back and young woody dropped?

Think that has to happen. McGourty will be under pressure from Graffin as well, you'd think.
It would be very Antrim-esque to blow it against Westmeath, having done so well against Wexford!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than Graffin, McManus and delargey I do not think the rest of the cushendall players will add much.  Like I have said before-"most are past it or have not got the balls"
I rate young McGourty.
It would be typical of Antrim to lose against westmeath

:D And HI yes Milltown Row, and I am  a culchie from Cushendall HI.  Now I better go and look the cows HI. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on March 03, 2009, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: leroy brown on March 03, 2009, 05:58:22 PM

I rate young McGourty.


Hes the oldest of the three.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 03, 2009, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 03, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Would be
(1) a tough weekend for McManus and Graffin if UUJ won through to the Ryan Cup final and they were asked to play all; and

Not just McManus and Graffin, Glensman - Shields, Neal McAuley and Conor McKinley!

(2) tough enough on the players that got UUJ to there if those boys were to come back in.
Will be interesting to see what happens.
I believe that Greg O'Kane is really impressing as a trainer out there.


Milltown - asked a query there on the All Ireland Club website.
"At a free/sideline - can a player not stand with his arms and therefore stick in the air without moving? Is it the moving bit that is a free?"
Just thought I'd bring the query to you rather than have you go looking for it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on March 03, 2009, 06:26:09 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 03, 2009, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 03, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Would be
(1) a tough weekend for McManus and Graffin if UUJ won through to the Ryan Cup final and they were asked to play all; and

Not just McManus and Graffin, Glensman - Shields, Neal McAuley and Conor McKinley!
(2) tough enough on the players that got UUJ to there if those boys were to come back in.
Will be interesting to see what happens.
I believe that Greg O'Kane is really impressing as a trainer out there.


Milltown - asked a query there on the All Ireland Club website.
"At a free/sideline - can a player not stand with his arms and therefore stick in the air without moving? Is it the moving bit that is a free?"
Just thought I'd bring the query to you rather than have you go looking for it!

Aswell as Chris O Connell  and possibly Paddy Magill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 03, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 03, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Would be
(1) a tough weekend for McManus and Graffin if UUJ won through to the Ryan Cup final and they were asked to play all; and
(2) tough enough on the players that got UUJ to there if those boys were to come back in.
Will be interesting to see what happens.
I believe that Greg O'Kane is really impressing as a trainer out there.


Milltown - asked a query there on the All Ireland Club website.
"At a free/sideline - can a player not stand with his arms and therefore stick in the air without moving? Is it the moving bit that is a free?"
Just thought I'd bring the query to you rather than have you go looking for it!

it's the moving of the stick in front of a player about to hit a free/sideline cut that is the foul. same as a player in football,  jumping as a player is about to take a free
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 03, 2009, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: leroy brown on March 03, 2009, 05:58:22 PM

I rate young McGourty.


Hes the oldest of the three.

Being the oldest doesn't necessarily make one the wisest. In this case however it does  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 03, 2009, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 03, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 03, 2009, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: leroy brown on March 03, 2009, 05:58:22 PM

I rate young McGourty.


Hes the oldest of the three.

Being the oldest doesn't necessarily make one the wisest. In this case however it does  ;D
I think you have just damned him with faint praise Skull. . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2009, 11:32:10 PM
Not at all Minder. Just wanted to have a wee laugh at the other two's expense. The boundaries on his sagaciousness could very well be endless (yes I used a thesaurus) ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 04, 2009, 08:50:02 AM
Did we all including cushendall not realise that playing SD up front is not an option, why would we be trying to convert one of the better defenders of the past two seasons into a forward at this stage anyway, after 3 years and the most committed and best squad we have ever had, why have we not got better options going forward?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 04, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
 Leroy, you are some craic, what club are you frey?  Are you saying Karl MC Keegan has no balls and wouldn't add much? He is the most consistant county hurler over the last 8 years and if you were a true supporter you would know that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 04, 2009, 11:31:27 PM
Karl McKeegan is a fantastic hurler, Antrim are lucky to have a player of his quality. 2002 vs Tipp he gave an outstanding display of centre half back play. Will walk into the current side. Lets not get carried away it was one decent win. If they can beat offaly well then that's some achievement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 05, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Pull out from the Andersonstown News. With an article on the 89' AIF 20 years on.

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Launch.aspx?referral=mypagesuite&refresh=9m1BZ05j2Wk0&PBID=e09c0a44-0914-4594-944c-6e8cfe6e99b2&skip=
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
Fcuk, another "hard hitting" Mc Gourty trying their hand at journalism, i use the term journalism loosely when it comes to the Andytown News.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 05, 2009, 04:33:48 PM
Not defending the article by any means but it must be hard to get any sort of excitement generated about the Antrim Football championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 05, 2009, 05:14:53 PM
its a fine article

i'll read it tonight when i get home from training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2009, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 05, 2009, 05:14:53 PM
its a fine article

i'll read it tonight when i get home from training
You knew that before reading it?
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
Fcuk, another "hard hitting" Mc Gourty trying their hand at journalism, i use the term journalism loosely when it comes to the Andytown News.........
And they're usually so publicity shy  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 06, 2009, 05:08:09 PM
You have heard of sarcasm ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on March 06, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Anyone heard the result of the UUJ match today?

I heard St. Mary's won easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 06, 2009, 07:05:05 PM
whats your take on playing the ball out of defence? watching Antrim last few games I've noticed that most of our players what to knock the ball a hundred yards up the field without looking where it goes, no cross field ball or 30 yard pass to an unmarked player (from the same team hopefully)

usually those wild high long balls come straight back up the pitch. as a defender (in my hay day) that was the ball that you won most times. the dreaded ball was the cross field low diagonal ball or hard low ball in. forwards usually won them or if they didn't it was because they did not control it.

i noticed on Sunday Sean Delargy giving off to McGourty for not driving a ball out of defence, he'd knock a perfectly good ball to an unmarked player who then fcuked it up.

I've watched many good teams over the years and Dunloy were always very good and short pass out of defence to an unmarked man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 06, 2009, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 06, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Anyone heard the result of the UUJ match today?

I heard St. Mary's won easy.

Think they won by 5 and play Mary Immaculate of Limerick in the final tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 06, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 06, 2009, 07:50:46 PM
Quote from: TheDoc on March 06, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Anyone heard the result of the UUJ match today?

I heard St. Mary's won easy.

Think they won by 5 and play Mary Immaculate of Limerick in the final tomorrow.

Just updating myself:

Ulster Bank Fitzgibbon Cup Semi-Finals
UCC 1-18 WIT 2-14
UL 3-20 Cork IT 2-11

Ulster Bank Ryan Cup Semi-Finals
UUJ 2-12 NUI Maynooth 0-13
Mary Immaculate College, Limerick 0-13 IT Tralee 1-8

Ulster Bank Fergal Maher Cup Semi-Finals
Napier University 6-23 Colaiste Mhuire Marino 0-3
St Marys-BMC 3-16 King's Inns 0-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 07, 2009, 01:24:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on March 06, 2009, 07:05:05 PM
whats your take on playing the ball out of defence? watching Antrim last few games I've noticed that most of our players what to knock the ball a hundred yards up the field without looking where it goes, no cross field ball or 30 yard pass to an unmarked player (from the same team hopefully)

usually those wild high long balls come straight back up the pitch. as a defender (in my hay day) that was the ball that you won most times. the dreaded ball was the cross field low diagonal ball or hard low ball in. forwards usually won them or if they didn't it was because they did not control it.

i noticed on Sunday Sean Delargy giving off to McGourty for not driving a ball out of defence, he'd knock a perfectly good ball to an unmarked player who then fcuked it up.

I've watched many good teams over the years and Dunloy were always very good and short pass out of defence to an unmarked man

I think that when its the sensible option and the man is free the short pass should definetly be the first option.  On sunday i didnt like wexfords style of play at all, i thought it was much too over-elaborate and caused them uneccessary problems.  I thought antrims problem was they took the wrong option when trying to play the ball out, trying to hit a man when it wasnt really on etc.  However the times they picked the right pass they looked very slick with some really impressive passages of play.
I know its easy to say, but if they can eradicate these decision making mistakes from their game, then their performances will go up another level.  Overall i would encourage teams to play the ball simple when at all possible, plpaying to a man instead of a 50/50 ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2009, 01:59:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2009, 01:50:17 AM
Flip side of the coin, and it depends on the situation, of course, is that if the ball is in your back line for a while and you get it in your hand, you think "Would this bastarding thing ever f**k off" and you drive it up the pitch. A big clearance is at least a clearance. A wee pass means that the ball is still in there, in your back line and what thon **** will probably do is bang it up the pitch anyway. Clear your lines. Your point about someone else f**king it up, milltown, is a bit stupid.  Would you rather someone f**k it up 30 yards from goal or 90 yards from goal? The 'f**k up' factor will always be there. One would think that you are just shifting the blame.

HS needs a shrink.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2009, 11:19:34 AM
Hurling panel v Westmeath 8th March 2009
06 March 2009
Antrim panel for match v Westmeath  8th March 2009 at Casement Park



1 ryan mc garry              mc quillans

2 kieran mc gourty         st galls

3 neil mc garry               shamrocks

4 sean delargy               ruairi og

5 karl mc keegan            ruairi og

6 neal mc auley              mc quillans

7 johnny campbell          shamrocks

8 brendan herron            lamh dhearg

9 paul shiels                   cuchullains

10 karl stewart                st galls

11 colm duffin                tir na nog

12 eddie mc closkey      shamrocks

13 pj o connell               clooney gaels

14 shane mc naughton    ruairi og

15 michael herron           lamh dhearg

16 chris o connell           shamrocks

17 paddy doherty           cuchullains

18 dan mc killop             oisins

19 joey scullion              shamrocks

20 simon mc crory          st johns

21 conor mc kinley          cuchullains

22 aaron graffin              ruairi og

23 paddy mc gill             ruairi og

24 kevin sheerin              tir na nog


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 11:30:15 AM
No Ciaran Herron?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 11:36:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2009, 01:50:17 AM
Flip side of the coin, and it depends on the situation, of course, is that if the ball is in your back line for a while and you get it in your hand, you think "Would this bastarding thing ever f**k off" and you drive it up the pitch. A big clearance is at least a clearance. A wee pass means that the ball is still in there, in your back line and what thon **** will probably do is bang it up the pitch anyway. Clear your lines. Your point about someone else f**king it up, milltown, is a bit stupid.  Would you rather someone f**k it up 30 yards from goal or 90 yards from goal? The 'f**k up' factor will always be there. One would think that you are just shifting the blame.

i'm not shifting blame just highlighting what i witnessed on Sunday. Kilkenny blast the ball out of defence all the time and it works for them. Cork used to play the ball out of defence and that worked for them.  

just wanted to hear opinions on defence clearing ball

said in irsih news he was injured Minder

another thing i've noticed recently is teams dropping players deep for the puck outs. leaving the corner back free for a quick puck out from the keeper. Wexford did it a few times and got away with it but when Antrim did it we f*cked it up.  
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Must be injured.Same for Paddy Richmond. He's not even in the 24 either & maybe not including McManus due to 3 matches in a wekeend may be too much for his back....just guessing?? Colm Duffin gets a start  ???!! Think there will be changes though depending on how players have came through the Poly matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
No harm to Duffin but i have never seen him playing at a level that would have me think he is anywhere near inter county standard, he would struggle to get on quite a few Div 1 teams in my view. He must impress at training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2009, 11:45:12 AM
Well I'll wait and see what happens re the other boys playing for the poly, but I am slightly preturbed by shorty being named (and in midfield at that). If he has played 2 matches in that position over the weekend before sunday then ...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 11:49:05 AM
Just how "preturbed" are you Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
Same with Neal McAuley, has only returned from a long period of injury & 3 matches in a weekend could be tough for him as well. Antrim may struggle tomorrow unless Westmeath are really poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 11:51:38 AM
well give Duffin a go lads he's been on the panel for two yeras or so. not you stylish hurler but S&W must see something in the lad

as for the lads being tired from those games, when i was young.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 11:53:10 AM
Well the fact that Down beat them by 8pts i dont think we have too much too worry about, especially at home. The Casement roar is worth about 5 pts in itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
Same with Neal McAuley, has only returned from a long period of injury & 3 matches in a weekend could be tough for him as well. Antrim may struggle tomorrow unless Westmeath are really poor.

Cushendall beat them a few weeks ago and Down hammered them last week. Westmeath got a couple of late goals to make it look a better match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 07, 2009, 11:53:10 AM
Well the fact that Down beat them by 8pts i dont think we have too much too worry about, especially at home. The Casement roar is worth about 5 pts in itself.

more like a miaow minder. the loudest thing i hear is usually before half time "ya going in for a pint?"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 07, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
I have to say if we don't beat Westmeath even with Duffin we should be shot esp as down beat them and we know how good they are.Glad Duffin is starting as i;m fed up watching him warm up beside S&W. As for Cushendall beating them don't take any notice of that as Cushendall are a better team than Antrim. Shocked to see Campbell and Nielly on after last weeks performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
In fairness James H thats nonsense that Cushendall are better than Antrim. There is no comparison between club and inter county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 07, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
I have to say if we don't beat Westmeath even with Duffin we should be shot esp as down beat them and we know how good they are.Glad Duffin is starting as i;m fed up watching him warm up beside S&W. As for Cushendall beating them don't take any notice of that as Cushendall are a better team than Antrim. Shocked to see Campbell and Nielly on after last weeks performance.

i hope your being funny ;)  for all the effort the Dall put in they were still beat by a team that won their first and only county title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 07, 2009, 12:56:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 07, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
I have to say if we don't beat Westmeath even with Duffin we should be shot esp as down beat them and we know how good they are.Glad Duffin is starting as i;m fed up watching him warm up beside S&W. As for Cushendall beating them don't take any notice of that as Cushendall are a better team than Antrim. Shocked to see Campbell and Nielly on after last weeks performance.

i hope your being funny ;)  for all the effort the Dall put in they were still beat by a team that won their first and only county title

that is completely irrelevant milltown. go tell the cork and limerick champions about getting beat by a team who won their first and only county title. what they won previously has nothing to do with anything. stupid statement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:08:18 PM
colonel your team mate came off with a "stupid statement" but ya managed to to miss his

i was down supporting your team and have given my views on it. the current Antrim team would stuff the De La Salle team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
Colonel it is a lot less "stupid" statement than saying Cushendall were better than Antrim, what is your opinion on that statement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 07, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
I have to say if we don't beat Westmeath even with Duffin we should be shot esp as down beat them and we know how good they are.Glad Duffin is starting as i;m fed up watching him warm up beside S&W. As for Cushendall beating them don't take any notice of that as Cushendall are a better team than Antrim. Shocked to see Campbell and Nielly on after last weeks performance.
This would be the statement Colonel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 07, 2009, 01:16:04 PM
are you talking about the current antrim team with colm duffin, neilly mcgarry, conor mckinley, kieran mcgourty, dan mckillop etc would beat DLS. no chance

so who came out with this statement and where

are you on medication?  scroll down 7 posts, its tough getting beat our lads got to croke park on St Paddy's day. still not over it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
Stupid argument. Antrim would probably beat Cushendall but it may be tight enough...but Antrim with the Cushendall players on board would be improved a hell of alot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 07, 2009, 01:21:15 PM
minder, one of antrims problems is that they cant play always as a team.  cushendall would be more effective as a team than antrim in my opinion.  there are obviously some better players out there, but antrim can't play together and dont have a system as was discussed earlier

minder the statement i was on about was the one about DLS being first time winners of county, province
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
1 ryan mc garry              mc quillans

2 kieran mc gourty         st galls

3 neil mc garry               shamrocks

4 sean delargy               ruairi og

5 karl mc keegan            ruairi og

6 neal mc auley              mc quillans

7 johnny campbell          shamrocks

8 brendan herron            lamh dhearg

9 paul shiels                   cuchullains

10 karl stewart                st galls

11 colm duffin                tir na nog

12 eddie mc closkey      shamrocks

13 pj o connell               clooney gaels

14 shane mc naughton    ruairi og

15 michael herron           lamh dhearg

bar maybe McKeegan who had a nighmare in Parnell that day it's not a bad team ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:25:16 PM
so why don't Naomh Gall represent Antrim as they play better as a team  :P

your talking silly Colonel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2009, 01:26:17 PM
But its a ridiculous argument to say a club team is better than a county team, as for cushendall playing better as a team well that will always be the case. Fellas in a club have been playing with each other since under age and train together all year,they should know each others game inside out. I would like to hear James H's view on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 07, 2009, 01:27:35 PM
st galls should, antrim football is shite

so ahane and Sarsfields and De La Salle and Ballyhale and....... see where i'm going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 01:36:06 PM
alright we are coming round. my assessment about Cushendall would be that they do have 13 quality players but two ok players and a poor bench wont do it (grand for Antrim Championships) in the all ireland series
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 07, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
Just in from the Ryan Cup Final. Mary Immaculate 1-12, UUJ 1-5. There was 3 in it with about 5 minutes to go when UUJ had a free in from around the 21. McManus went for goal, it was saved. Wasn't a great strike, nor was the free that he took that went in in the first half. MI pulled away in the last 5 minutes. UUJ also had McCarthy sent off for 2 yellows with about 10 to go.

Poor enough game, dominated by a very strong wind running directly across the pitch. MI looked that bit better all over the pitch although O'Connell will kick himself for their goal - he stopped a soft enough shot and then managed to throw it over his shoulder into the net. UUJ's name players were relatively quiet. McManus was well held by their full back. Shorty had a serious clash with a MI player that left both on the ground. MI player took longer to get up, but Shorty seemed to be holding his shoulder afterwards - would suspect it will bve very sore tomorrow. McAuely, I thought was quiet and his striking wasn't as clean as you would expect. Got himself booked for stupidly throwing his stick up in the air at a ball passing overhead - it wasn't going anywhere particularly danagerous and in fact a UUJ player was waiting to gather it. Though Graffin was quiet as well.

All in all, I have to say I was a little disappointed at UUJ's performance. All the Antrim players came through unscathed, except, perhaps, Shorty. Will they go on the beer or will they head back up the road - that is the question??

St Mary's BMC won the Fergal Maher Cup 3-14 to 2-16 - sounds like a clinker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 07, 2009, 11:20:40 PM
bad enough result for UUJ thought they would come through ok

if the injury is as bad as you say cloot shorty wont be playing tomorrow

on the beer? give them a break tough weekend and a loss also a few beers wont kill them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
120 people at match.yound woody & dan mck in for neal mcA & shorty.think we could struggle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 03:28:13 PM
any one at the game today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
12-11 antrim shocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 03:38:24 PM
jaysus! are all the poly fellas missing? If ther are thats the core of the team out, so any kind of win is good.

Who are the starting 15 ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
14-13 antrim.8 left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
tight finish, nails down to the bone! Please post the final score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 03:56:28 PM
15-13 antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 03:58:23 PM
15-14 inj time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
15 all.free with last poc of game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 04:02:31 PM
lucky there then, who had the stones to take the point ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 08, 2009, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
15 all.free with last poc of game

Christ that is disappointing.

Same old story - one step forward, one step back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
So i take it was a draw then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on March 08, 2009, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 07, 2009, 04:21:25 PM
All in all, I have to say I was a little disappointed at UUJ's performance. All the Antrim players came through unscathed, except, perhaps, Shorty. Will they go on the beer or will they head back up the road - that is the question??

On the drink. All the UUJ boys in the Bot, with Graffin and McManus in fine form.

Quote from: Minder on March 08, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
So i take it was a draw then?

Yes. Draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 04:30:50 PM
Id stay the whole team should go on the beer as a "team bonding" exercise. Wouldnt do them any harm this time of year.

Im pleased with todays result, it means we wont get ahead of ourselves and that S&W will have something they can work on and use to moviatation the lads. Its what davy fitz did when coaching the LIT team.

Hope the poly cubs have a good night on the beer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 04:35:47 PM
Antrim were shocking.stupid free at the end to give westmeath the draw.only getting feeling back in hands now.it was baltic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 08, 2009, 04:38:44 PM
What a load of crap. Don't know were to start, so I'll not bother, there goes promotion. Did i mention i thought Cushendall were a better team than Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 04:53:16 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 08, 2009, 04:38:44 PM
What a load of crap. Don't know were to start, so I'll not bother, there goes promotion. Did i mention i thought Cushendall were a better team than Antrim?
Thats a first!!
Has mummy not got around to telling you when your thoughts should be kept inside your head and not posted on a forum.

Today we stood still in terms of progress, next game we need to perform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2009, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 08, 2009, 04:38:44 PM
What a load of crap. Don't know were to start, so I'll not bother, there goes promotion. Did i mention i thought Cushendall were a better team than Antrim?
You did but most people outside Cushendall would think you are talking bollocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
terrible conditions for both teams I'd say but no excuse to lose oops sorry draw against Westmeath.

the college lads (if true) could have went on the lash tonight FFS not as if they were getting up for work in the morning. but sure a night on the tiles is far better craic than getting promotion and playing the likes of Galway and Kilkenny and the rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
terrible conditions for both teams I'd say but no excuse to lose oops sorry draw against Westmeath.

the college lads (if true) could have went on the lash tonight FFS not as if they were getting up for work in the morning. but sure a night on the tiles is far better craic than getting promotion and playing the likes of Galway and Kilkenny and the rest

Think your being bit harsh here MR, The dall lads has prob been training flat out since the ulster. The poly fellas were prob training since the start of uni and really building it up in recent months and the rest of the lads prob been hard at it since december time.

If they are not allowed a blow out now then when is allowed? A week before the dublin game?
I cant see any harm with them going mad once in a blue moon at this time of the year. So long as they dont forget about the training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2009, 05:32:38 PM
I thought the Dall players met with the Antrim management before Christmas and decided they would make themselves available for the first match against Westmeath ,even though they were preparing for an All Ireland Semi, because every game was a "must win" game. . . . . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 05:44:49 PM
Alots happen between christmas and now. Maybe some of the players dont want to fall victim to burnout or peak to early. You cant be too hard on the lads and likewise you cant be to soft with them, I hope S&W can get teh balance right. Todays result isnt the end of the world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 05:50:15 PM
Antrim still should have been winning that match even without the Poly players. Shorty got hurt yesterday so that was maybe he wasnt fit to be playing, McManus wasnt named in the 24 to play. Unsure over Graffin or Neal McAuley.

The Cushendall players were going to play against Westmeath but in the weeks leading up to the match were told they were not allowed to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
terrible conditions for both teams I'd say but no excuse to lose oops sorry draw against Westmeath.

the college lads (if true) could have went on the lash tonight FFS not as if they were getting up for work in the morning. but sure a night on the tiles is far better craic than getting promotion and playing the likes of Galway and Kilkenny and the rest

Think your being bit harsh here MR, The dall lads has prob been training flat out since the ulster. The poly fellas were prob training since the start of uni and really building it up in recent months and the rest of the lads prob been hard at it since december time.

If they are not allowed a blow out now then when is allowed? A week before the dublin game?
I cant see any harm with them going mad once in a blue moon at this time of the year. So long as they dont forget about the training.

i'm not being harsh youngfella i understand about lads putting it in with clubs county's and colleges, but staying of the drink for one night is not going to infringe on their socialising

Dublin at the minute are playing better and i'd say we'd be lucky to stay within 5/6 points come the final whistle. when a player a county level signs up for the year then he should committ and put in the same effort as the manager. we were in a position before todays match to win the league, thats gone now

as for the TDK stop talking shite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: youngfella on March 08, 2009, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 08, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
terrible conditions for both teams I'd say but no excuse to lose oops sorry draw against Westmeath.

the college lads (if true) could have went on the lash tonight FFS not as if they were getting up for work in the morning. but sure a night on the tiles is far better craic than getting promotion and playing the likes of Galway and Kilkenny and the rest

Think your being bit harsh here MR, The dall lads has prob been training flat out since the ulster. The poly fellas were prob training since the start of uni and really building it up in recent months and the rest of the lads prob been hard at it since december time.

If they are not allowed a blow out now then when is allowed? A week before the dublin game?
I cant see any harm with them going mad once in a blue moon at this time of the year. So long as they dont forget about the training.

i'm not being harsh youngfella i understand about lads putting it in with clubs county's and colleges, but staying of the drink for one night is not going to infringe on their socialising

Dublin at the minute are playing better and i'd say we'd be lucky to stay within 5/6 points come the final whistle. when a player a county level signs up for the year then he should committ and put in the same effort as the manager. we were in a position before todays match to win the league, thats gone now

as for the TDK stop talking shite

TDK should give a set of concreate boots slanging of someone like that. Feck that annoyed me no call for it!

Even if the poly lads had stayed off the drink they would have been fecked from the game the day before.
Id agree dublin are about that ahead of us atm, physically and techincally we are as good if not better than them, however are weak point has always be psychologically how we approach games, Almost as if were just there to make up numbers, If S&w can work on that were in with a chance. MY 2 cents worth, im off on the lash tonight. Aontroim ABU
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2009, 06:43:08 PM
Youngfella how can you say we are ahead of Dublin "technically and physically"? What are you baseing this on? Have you seen Dublin play lately?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on March 08, 2009, 08:33:46 PM
Now MR U know that i am not talking S***, tell the lads on the site the truth, he did! Even the auld boy lost the plot with him!! Youngfella get a life and get real, slanging ask his team mates they will confirm it!! take off the tinted glasses boys, and MR you should set yourself up on this site as one wise old owls, have the stones and call it as it is..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 08, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
After the lord mayors show comes the dustcart, that was the case for Antrim today after a good display last week. There were a whole host of changes from last week and it showed. Team really struggled throughout with the full forward line never getting going. Antrim started with Karl Stewart in there, that didnt work so Eddie McCluskey had a go then Micko Herron then Shane McNaughten and finally Cormac Donnelly. None of them were any use. Shane McNaughten who on paper should have been our main scoring threat never touched leather all day and eventually got yellow carded leading to Donnelly coming on, he appeared to be limping as he ran on!!
In truth Westmeath should have been further ahead at half time having missed two good goal chances and putting a 21 yd free over the bar. Antrim never looked like scoring a goal.
PJ O Connell is not a bad player but he has to realise that not every chance has to be a goal. He won the ball well twice in the first half and instead of taking a simple point tried to lay the ball off to set up a goal for someone which came to nothing.
Sean Delargy after a stormer last week was very ordinary today and McGourty in the other corner looked decidedly iffy. Overall only McGarry at full back and Brendan Herron played well. Karl Stewart did OK at centre half forward and tried hard. I thought Antrim were summed up by a passage of play with about five minutes to go while leading by two points, the ball was won in the half back line by young woody ( I think ) there then ensued about six short passes going nowhere and ended with Micko Herron on the halfway line trying a handpass that went out for a sideline to Westmeath. At least 4 players had the chance to let the ball long into the full forward line but did not do so because a) they thought they might be hooked or b) they thought the full forward line was shite ( it was). Similarly for the last free the ball could have been cleared twice before the free was conceded. Short passing is getting us into trouble against Div 2 opposition lord help us when the pace is upped in the summer.

Overall westmeath deserved at least a point, hopefully everyone is available for the next game and we can rebuild some patterns of play. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2009, 09:28:44 PM
While far from being a great result to win this division we needed to beat offaly and nothing has changed in that regard.

I, unfortunately, would not say we are ahead of Dublin at all. If all goes well we can give Dublin a good rattle but Dublin would have to be string favourites to beat antrim. Dublin are on the verge of being no. 2 of the leinster teams and on league form are no. 2. They just need the championship to prove that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2009, 09:44:40 PM
Antrim 0-15 – Westmeath 0-15
The senior hurling match in Casement Park today might, for some, be one to be written off rather than written about. Antrim as a team appeared dull and tired and were in fact depleted in number, understandably, given the cumulative effect of a period of intense work for key players and their experience of inordinate effort and out performance last week. Antrim hurlers had in effect to face a very demanding and unfair situation; we can only hope that they are not asked or expected to do this again for some time.
It should also be noted perhaps, that West Meath spotted Antrim weakness early; they smelt blood and essentially went all out for the kill. The half time score of ten points to eight was an indication of a less than mediocre Antrim performance. With the notable exception perhaps of Karl Stewart this was certainly not a good day out for Antrim forwards. By contrast eight times from nine attempts Karl Stewart made his mark, profiting handsomely from fouls to send frees over the bar with cool calm and collected precision. He also battled relentlessly, throughout the entire game and took more than a fair share of hard hits for his efforts. He is without doubt an outstanding example of skill, courage and determination.
Brendan Herron scored three points, his brother Michael two, with Karl Keegan and Colm Duffy one each. Antrim, as a team, clearly did not have the necessary hunger or the fight in them today nor did they have the firepower available, that they otherwise would have for the reasons explained at outset; they paid a price for this but it is an ill wind that does not do some good for someone, so West Meath can indeed be thankful. All things considered the Antrim team should have had, and would have well deserved that this match be deferred.
It is sometimes all too easy to avoid harsh reality and make excuse so as to opt out of taking responsibility. There was some evidence of repeating error today that is unlikely to escape the eagle eyes of managers and coaches alike. It is likely that when the stats are closely examined more than a few players will not want to believe what they are being told. This of course brings us back to 'writing off' rather than 'writing about' this match. 
When all is said and done Antrim backs, tiredness not withstanding, did their job today, as did Ryan Mc Garry in goals, on more than a few occasions. Had our backline been weaker today we could all too easily have been undone, from some of the ferocious attacks on our goal. Again it might well be said that along with a considerable effort by West Meath, to exploit identified weakness, there was some evidence of just little bit of bias and a friendly nudging of injury time, by Meath referee.

Lawrence Smyth County PRO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
The Poly lads reckon they were available for selection today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 09:53:38 PM
To start with it I thought are attitude was wrong, the workrate wasnt good enough & looked like cos Westmeath got beat easily by Down last week it would be an easy two points. Our Forward line was shocking..really poor. I counted 11 players including subs who played up front at diifferant stages with only Karl Stewart any good. At least he worked hard as usual & his frees were generally good. It would take me too long to go through the other 10..some of them were poor. At midfield Brendan Herron scored 3 good points & we missed Shorty in there. We looked shaky at the back, & looked as if we'd leak a goal at various stages, & took Ryan McGarry to make a couple of good saves. Thought McGourty hurled right..he just needs to settle down at times. Neilly McGarry looked a bit suspect at the back again & would worry when we came up against better teams.

Overall, like last week I wouldnt get carried away, same applies to this week. It should show our playes that we arent good enough to play to at least than close to our full capacity. Offaly & especially Dublin will be our yardstick. If the attitude & application is there against Dublin I think we could run them close & give them a really good match. Dublin are definately ahead of us, they have been surving in Division 1 for at least 3 years & have rarely been hammered in that time unlike Antrim.

Fair play to Westmeath, they done well to get their point. They'd have come up to Belfast fired up after last weeks result v Down  & with Antrim being allowed in Leinster & them not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 08, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
The Poly lads reckon they were available for selection today.

Well Young woody played today & he was with Jordanstown over the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 09, 2009, 08:58:53 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2009, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 08, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
The Poly lads reckon they were available for selection today.

Well Young woody played today & he was with Jordanstown over the weekend.

Almost 100% sure he didn't play in the Ryan Cup Final on Saturday though - certainly didn't start the game anway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 09, 2009, 09:39:52 AM
Very poor result at the weekend and I am pretty suprised to hear some sympathy for the boys going on the beer on the saturday night.

I dont think there is any room for it at the moment especially with these tight games in this tight divison.

We understand this is an volunteer sport but the fact they could have held on for one night makes it even worse IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 09, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Reality is NAG that they shouldn't have been available for selection after playing two compeditive matches over the weekend. There wasn't much hurling done in the NHL at the weekend so why Antrim had to play especially when they have so many students on the panel is beyond me. Would have thought we should have got this match refixed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 09, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
Yeah I agree skull but the realty is that the match was fixed and it was an eminently winnable match for antrim even playing without the poly boys, but they should have been available for the bench. After a good warm up and with the proper cool downs and preparation they would have been good to give 15-20mins if required if not then great.

But the fact remains that they choose to have a night on the tiles (which Im not denying the boys at this point if it is at the right time) instead of preparing in the best way to get antrim the right result at the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 09, 2009, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 09, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Reality is NAG that they shouldn't have been available for selection after playing two compeditive matches over the weekend. There wasn't much hurling done in the NHL at the weekend so why Antrim had to play especially when they have so many students on the panel is beyond me. Would have thought we should have got this match refixed

Skull, I think the story was that the GAA refixed the match for yesterday. Antrim went to them complaining that they had a clash with the Ryan Cup, the "GAA" (whoever fixes these things) said that's grand, pick whatever date you and Westmeath can agree on, Antrim went with a couple of dates to Westmeath (including a midweek fixture under lights), Westmeath said get stuffed (either because they had genuine issues with the suggested alternatives or, if you believe the conspiracy theories, because we got into the Leinster Championship and they didn't, so they were going to play ball with us) and so we were forced to play the fixture yesterday.

On the availability or otherwise of the Poly players, you will see there is the usual nonsense going on over on the County website ("I hear that . . ." "Would you stop spouting rubbish . .  etc). I don't know where the truth lies but would make a couple of points.

1. I was at the Ryan Cup Final - while I appreciate the Poly played the previous day, it wasn't the most intense of matches I have ever seen. If (and it is a big if), the County players had wanted to, I think they could have played the next day rightly with a proper night's rest etc, with perhaps the exception of Shorty who got a bad enough knock.

2. If the Poly were staying down in Dublin for the night (for a Fitzgibbon dinner etc), while I would not have been especially happy with it (if it is my place to be happy or not!), I could understand the great temptation to stay down and go on the piss in Dublin. I was a student once - i know the pressures!

3. However, and I have no evidence of it other than per this Board, if they all came back up to Belfast on the Saturday night and simply went on the piss in the Bot on Sunday afternoon, that in my opinion is pretty bloody poor. Even if they were not playing, I think they should have headed over to Casement for a couple of hours - at least it would have been a break in the drinking!

All in all though, to be drawing with Westmeath, at home, after beating Wexford the week before is not good enough. The team that did play should have enough pretensions about itself to beat Westmeath, and beat them well. Per a couple of the match reports, while the ref did appear to get carried away with injury time, it would seem Westmeath had a legitimate point not counted and several good goal chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 09, 2009, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on March 08, 2009, 08:33:46 PM
Now MR U know that i am not talking S***, tell the lads on the site the truth, he did! Even the auld boy lost the plot with him!! Youngfella get a life and get real, slanging ask his team mates they will confirm it!! take off the tinted glasses boys, and MR you should set yourself up on this site as one wise old owls, have the stones and call it as it is..........

look TDK you've obviously have it in for the McGourtys. i was not at the Annual dinner and cannot comment on his actions. what i do know is that he played both college games and still managed to be at Carrick-on-Shannon for the Letrim game (the hurlers did not bother) he also trained with the county footballers on the friday night i believe. my stones are fine TDK.

now if you want to come on here and rubbish peoples families then at least put your own name on the board. or do you not have the "stones" for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 09, 2009, 04:47:18 PM
I did note that CJ did manage to turn out for the county footballers unlike the hurlers mentioned above. Fair play to him for making the trip to Carrick and he came up with an important score at the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 09, 2009, 07:22:51 PM
possibly groundlie, and it makes no difference to the league as we will still have to beat Offaly down there. but the drink culture can't be a good thing, as said earlier one night off the booze would do no harm.

winning games every week will set us up better for the Dublin match. I'm sure they will bounce back for the next game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 09, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
yes and i enjoyed that culture myself, but these are the lads that are meant to be making a difference to Antrim Hurling. expectations of us "fans" probably to high i suppose, ah well I'll be there in September watching the Cats again giving a master class.

i wonder what the drink culture is like in kilkenny, maybe our Southern boys can fill us in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on March 16, 2009, 10:50:10 PM
Looking at the u16 hurling fixtures, who is Sentanta?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2009, 07:20:36 AM
Setanta are from Donegal, they have an ex L'giel fella called Campbell up there who is pushing the hurling hard. I think they have a ball alley built beside the pitch from memory. How many Antrim clubs are just thinking about that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on March 17, 2009, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 17, 2009, 07:20:36 AM
Setanta are from Donegal, they have an ex L'giel fella called Campbell up there who is pushing the hurling hard. I think they have a ball alley built beside the pitch from memory. How many Antrim clubs are just thinking about that?

I know theres a Setanta from Donegal, but I couldn't really see them coming from Donegal to play a Down team in the Antrim league!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 17, 2009, 10:57:30 AM
square ball , Is that the South Antrim league that Seatanta are playing in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on March 17, 2009, 12:03:51 PM
Tis indeed, they are playing Bredagh in the first round, there are a few Down clubs in there, the three Ards clubs, Bredagh and carryduff. I cant see a Donegal team playing in the South Antrim league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2009, 12:05:52 PM
Well it wouldn't surprise me, there is a big push on Donegal hurling at the minute at under age. The county HDO is that enthusiastic he'd wear you down at times. I remember a couple of years ago going up to play Setanta in the UHL, we took a joke of a team up( no sarcastic remarks please) and they beat us of the park. Yer man Campbell was near in tears that an Antrim team had come up to play them at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on March 17, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
QuoteTis indeed, they are playing Bredagh in the first round, there are a few Down clubs in there, the three Ards clubs, Bredagh and carryduff. I cant see a Donegal team playing in the South Antrim league?

It wouldn't be unheard of for a team to travel that far for the Antrim League, sure Strabane were in the league for a few seasons a couple of years ago travelling as far away as Glenarm for games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 17, 2009, 10:25:04 PM
gilly mcilhatton shortlisted for one of the presidents award for 2009. fair play to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on March 18, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.

The man's a legend all over Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 19, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
Fair play to ya Gilly.
I hear the North antrim twinning plan with Munster Council is about to start. The vibes I'm getting is it will be a great benefit to the clubs involved. Don't quote me but the story is that 6 trained( by Paudie Butler) coaches will deliver a series of visits, with the end product to be a tailored coaching plan written up between the tutor and the club officers, coaches, to bring the club forward for the next 3 years.  The work will be shared so neither party will be left doing the work. The template has been already devised by the Munster Council. My own club are very keen,F*** knows we need the help. I think there are 18 clubs signed up to the project,
I could be the way forward for all the clubs in the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: leroy brown on March 19, 2009, 05:30:42 PM
With the hammering DLS got in final, I almost wished cushendall had won semi.
Would cushendall have done better?  NO.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 19, 2009, 05:37:26 PM
What about your club LB, how do you think they would have faired. Better still how many ulster medals have you sitting on your ma's sideboard? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 19, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on March 18, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.

The man's a legend all over Ulster.

My father tells a story of a match from there early seventies Armoy v Mitchels up in the city somewhere. My Da was one umpire and Gilly was the other. Early in the match Mitchells had a 70 that was tailing off wide. Gilly promptly shouldered the post which lent out about two feet at the top bringing the ball on target, sort of  :D My Da had to lean against the other post for the remainder of the match.
A real hurling man for a hell of a long time good luck to him hope he gets the award
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 19, 2009, 09:48:36 PM
Gilly kept Mitchel's on the road almost single handed for years.
Hard to believe that they were senior 15 years ago and now they can't field. He was secretary for years, refereed and played corner forward when he was at least 70 to make sure they had the 15. Well deserved in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2009, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 19, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on March 18, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.

The man's a legend all over Ulster.

My father tells a story of a match from there early seventies Armoy v Mitchels up in the city somewhere. My Da was one umpire and Gilly was the other. Early in the match Mitchells had a 70 that was tailing off wide. Gilly promptly shouldered the post which lent out about two feet at the top bringing the ball on target, sort of  :D My Da had to lean against the other post for the remainder of the match. A real hurling man for a hell of a long time good luck to him hope he gets the award

An umpire in Belfast cheating against a North Antrim team ? Surely a first.......  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 20, 2009, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: the colonel on March 19, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
i knew this place was too quiet for too long

whats the craic with the post on the NA site about county team going to the dogs/races?



i heard they had a great nights craic. betting all night, food served and a few pints. wont do them any harm.  i'm sure they must repay the faith S&W have put in them and get the right result against Dublin.

Ulster hurling this Sat at  ;D

rugby will have to be put on the back burner. crap sport anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mrsandman on March 20, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: leroy brown on March 19, 2009, 05:30:42 PM
With the hammering DLS got in final, I almost wished cushendall had won semi.
Would cushendall have done better?  NO.  ;D

I disagree, i think they would have put up a better fight, DLS had given up after the first goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 20, 2009, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2009, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 19, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on March 18, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.

The man's a legend all over Ulster.

My father tells a story of a match from there early seventies Armoy v Mitchels up in the city somewhere. My Da was one umpire and Gilly was the other. Early in the match Mitchells had a 70 that was tailing off wide. Gilly promptly shouldered the post which lent out about two feet at the top bringing the ball on target, sort of  :D My Da had to lean against the other post for the remainder of the match. A real hurling man for a hell of a long time good luck to him hope he gets the award

An umpire in Belfast cheating against a North Antrim team ? Surely a first.......  ;)

A North Antrim umpire cheating against another North Antrim team has of course never happened either  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 20, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 20, 2009, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 20, 2009, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 19, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on March 18, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 18, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
I second that. theres not many who would do the work Gilly has done.

The man's a legend all over Ulster.

My father tells a story of a match from there early seventies Armoy v Mitchels up in the city somewhere. My Da was one umpire and Gilly was the other. Early in the match Mitchells had a 70 that was tailing off wide. Gilly promptly shouldered the post which lent out about two feet at the top bringing the ball on target, sort of  :D My Da had to lean against the other post for the remainder of the match. A real hurling man for a hell of a long time good luck to him hope he gets the award

An umpire in Belfast cheating against a North Antrim team ? Surely a first.......  ;)

A North Antrim umpire cheating against another North Antrim team has of course never happened either  ;)

Well it has but i always found the chip eaters to be far more blatant............Against Gort Na Mona in the Falls Park always springs to mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2009, 02:24:44 PM
Lamh Dhearg always used to have this old boy with glasses doing umpire,in football, and no matter how wide the ball was for Lamh Dhearg he would give a point.

I've seen him being sent off on numerous occassions.

It was embarassing - there'd be shots yards wide and he'd still give a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 20, 2009, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2009, 02:24:44 PM
Lamh Dhearg always used to have this old boy with glasses doing umpire,in football, and no matter how wide the ball was for Lamh Dhearg he would give a point.

I've seen him being sent off on numerous occassions.

It was embarassing - there'd be shots yards wide and he'd still give a point.

the worst has to be Gough from St Johns, he's their grounds man puts out the nets and flags  and has tea and biscuts ready at half time, but if he's doing umpire.........

top scorer bar McFaul every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2009, 08:32:15 PM
Many moons ago the brother of a well known glensman and bbc commentator (is that enough clues for you?) was easily the most blatantly biased umpire in the game. Stevie Wonder could see some of the decisions were wrong and on many occassion he was taken to task by goalkeepers, umpires and the whole full back line but he never flinched.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 21, 2009, 10:57:34 AM
 
I think the father of a Ballycastle All Star and now coach to the down seniors was the worst i can remember, looking at the ref from under the peak of his hat even embarrassed the home town supporters, which is some feat. Totally agree about Gough from St Johns, he is blatant, I remember Mc Clean over ruling him 3 times in one half of a match in Cushendall a few years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 04:18:55 PM
Beat by Carlow, what a shower.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 22, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
Shocking result.Promotion gone. Not beating Westmeath or Carlow is a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 22, 2009, 04:36:42 PM
No excuses!  just a shocking result! Lads need to get their house in order and quickly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 22, 2009, 04:43:46 PM
why was mcmanus not starting?
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Post by: milltown row on March 22, 2009, 04:54:27 PM
i hope that they stayed in their rooms last night, and had warm milk and S&W tucked them in to bed and read a wee bedtime story.

did you see comerford's lob, cheeky bollix
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 22, 2009, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!
Well done to CPC shame about the other crowd
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Post by: the colonel on March 22, 2009, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 22, 2009, 04:47:12 PM
Going to the Lurig instead of training and leaving an abusive voice mail to a Mr. McNaughton.

:)


is that your story of the day for both squads?
Quote from: slow corner back on March 22, 2009, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!
Well done to CPC shame about the other crowd


what did the other crowd do?
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Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 05:18:50 PM
I take it he means the seniors colonel.
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Post by: slow corner back on March 22, 2009, 05:19:26 PM
I was refering to the crowd in Carlow
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Post by: Owenbeg on March 22, 2009, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 17, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
QuoteTis indeed, they are playing Bredagh in the first round, there are a few Down clubs in there, the three Ards clubs, Bredagh and carryduff. I cant see a Donegal team playing in the South Antrim league?

It wouldn't be unheard of for a team to travel that far for the Antrim League, sure Strabane were in the league for a few seasons a couple of years ago travelling as far away as Glenarm for games.

Setanta are St Paul's/ Gort Na Mona and few other clubs who didnt have the number at underage. They are sponsored by the hurl makers in bfast. They were down playing our u16's today. Aint a great side.
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 22, 2009, 08:38:59 PM
From BBC website

Carlow 3-12 1-15 Antrim

Antrim joint-manager Sambo McNaughton was unhappy with his team's lack of discipline on Sunday

Antrim joint-boss Sambo McNaughton said his team were the "architects of their own downfall" after they crashed to a shock Allianz NHL defeat in Carlow.

Saffrons goalkeeper Ryan McGarry was sent off for retaliation in the first half and Paddy Richmond received a straight red card in the second period.

With the Saffrons imploding, Carlow led 2-7 to 0-5 at the break.

A Neil McManus goal helped Antrim to get within a point of Carlow but Richmond's red card was a massive blow.

To make matters worse, the Saffrons also lost two players because of the experimental yellow card rule, including influential Cormac Donnelly.

"The new yellow card rule is very annoying but we got what we deserved today," McNaughton told BBC Sport.

"The two boys got sent off for retaliation and they know that you just can't do that sort of thing and get away with it.

"We played nearly all of the match with 14 players and a large part of the game with 13.

"You just cannot afford to do that."

McNaughton acknowledged that the defeat "probably" leaves Antrim needing to win their final three Division 2 games - including the game against table-toppers Offaly in Tullamore on 19 April - to keep alive their promotion hopes.

"That's providing we can beat Kerry and Laois in the next two games which is by no means guaranteed, given the way we are playing at the moment."

The Saffrons started off their campaign with wins over Down and Wexford but the wheels have come off in the last two games as a home draw against lowly Westmeath was followed by Sunday's shock reverse.

Antrim will be back in action against Kerry at Casement Park next Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 22, 2009, 08:47:45 PM
Jesus (can't really say much more than that)...and Dublin beat Waterford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 22, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!

Any idea who you get in the final fairhead? Some excellent work been done in there two all ireland finals in three years is some achievement for a comprehensive school.
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Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2009, 09:01:44 PM
That is a horrendous result - players sent off or not!

We need to get the finger out or like sambo says kerry and laois will beat us too.

Dublin are looking all the more ominous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2009, 09:35:53 PM
Are things any different now to previous regimes? I remember Sambo saying that things would be different, there would be no carryouts on the bus etc etc......... It all sounds very familiar. I also heard from a reliable source that the University players went on the rip the night before the Westmeath game because Antrim management told them they could as they wouldnt be needed the next day...........  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 10:59:32 PM
Indisciplined Antrim beaten by Carlow in NHL Div 2

Antrim hurlers unbeaten run in Division 2 of the Allianz National Hurling League came to an abrupt end at Dr Cullen Park on Sunday when they were beaten by three points by Carlow after a scrappy and undisciplined display.
Facing a stiff breeze in the opening half Antrim started reasonably well but their lost their way as the half progressed and the dismissal of full-back Cormac Donnelly for a yellow card offence and goalkeeper Ryan McGarry for a straight red offence dealt their chances a heavy blow.
Antrim were now in disarray and before the break they conceded a second goal when Carlow substitute pulled a ground stroke to the net after good work by the home side's best player Paudi Kehoe.
Eight points behind at the break Antrim looked like they could close the gap as they started the second half with much more vigour, but their insistence to go for goals when easy points were there for the taking cost them dearly.
A series of points from frees by Paul Shiels saw them close the gap to a single point at one stage, but the concession of a third goal and the loss of Paddy Richmond from another straight red card all but killed off the fight-back.
Substitute Neil McManus did manage to grab a late goal from a penalty but it was too little too late and Carlow held on for a deserved win, a result which all but ends Antrim's promotion chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on March 22, 2009, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 22, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
How can they keep picking the same players who have been playing so poorly week in week not just this year, but over the last three years.
There are players in that team who know that no matter what they will start every week. The previous results should now hit home that certain players need to get out of their little comfort zones.

I hope that Dublin is the last thing that these boys are thinking about. I fear that we could get beat by Laois, I really do. All I can say is dont quit.

Very true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 23, 2009, 09:29:36 AM
What is going on seems like the wheels have well and truly come off the wagon!

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Post by: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2009, 01:23:07 PM
They seem to be having real bother motivating themselves for matches against "lesser" teams. Unfortunately they are realising that they are actually Antrim and not Kilkenny and still need to pull the finger out in all their matches. At this stage of the year it must be a mental rather physical problem. Stories of going out on the pish doesn't exactly help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 23, 2009, 02:39:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2009, 01:23:07 PM
They seem to be having real bother motivating themselves for matches against "lesser" teams. Unfortunately they are realising that they are actually Antrim and not Kilkenny and still need to pull the finger out in all their matches. At this stage of the year it must be a mental rather physical problem. Stories of going out on the pish doesn't exactly help.

Id totally agree with you, would do no harm to bring in a sports and spend a few sessions with the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 23, 2009, 05:18:34 PM
Carlow have improved in recent years but remember the hidin we gave them in the Christy Ring final? I couldnt see this one coming despite the poor show against Westmeath.

Any talk of promotion is maddness now. Lets concentration on playing well as a team against Laois, get the result and improve the aul discipline. You can't expect to beat anybody if we have 13 and they have 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 23, 2009, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!

Think they play Colaiste Eoin of Dublin (who beat Loughrea) in the final - presumably in Newry or Dundalk. Lets hope they can lay down a marker for June!
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Post by: Fairhead on March 23, 2009, 09:31:40 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on March 22, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 22, 2009, 12:46:38 AM
Another wee boost to Antrim hurling today with CPC's win in the All Ireland Colleges B semi final against Hosptital from Limerick. 1.11 to 0.10 was the final score but in truth CPC were never in too much bother but they just couldnt kill the game off. You cant say that too often about Antrim teams in All Ireland semi finals!

Any idea who you get in the final fairhead? Some excellent work been done in there two all ireland finals in three years is some achievement for a comprehensive school.

It is Colaiste Eoin from Stillorgan in Dublin. They would get a lot of their players from Crokes who are very strong underage and they supplied a good chunk of the South Dublin combined team that got to the Leinster A Colleges semi final. CPC will be doing very well to get by these boys but at least they are there. Thats 5 yrs in a row Ulster schools have got to this B final (Maghera twice, St Marys once and CPC twice now) although only 1 victory to date by Maghera. Its on April 4 and as Cloot says it will probably around Dundalk or Newry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 01:02:01 PM


I Heard the Antrim team this morning for the Kerry match,

1. C O Connell
2. Sean Delargy
3. Hippy
4. C Mc Gourty
5. Graffin
6. N Mc Auley
7. Searlas
8. Brendan Herron
9. Eddie Mc Closkey
10. Karl Stewart
11. N Mc Manus
12. Paddy Doc
13. Pj O Connell
14. Pinky
15 .Shane Mc Naughton

Not a bad team i suppose, heard Shorty ,JC, and Ciaran Herron, were injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 27, 2009, 01:03:37 PM
So is the show going to get back on the road this Sunday, or are we in for another surprise????

Any inside line on the "hard talking" done on Tuesday night?

One thing is certain - following Antrim hurling is full of surprises (except perhaps when we play Kilkenny, Cork, Tipp, Galway . . . . .)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2009, 01:45:01 PM
Is Paddy Doherty a regular for Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
He gets a regular 20 Min's, by which time he's F**ked. Any anyway when has being a regular been compulsory to be on our team, I will mention young Woody. nuff said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 27, 2009, 02:06:10 PM
JamesH

I think that says more about the management that the young boys themselves of course they are going to want to play at the top level if the can regardless of whether they are starters for their club.
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Post by: maxpower on March 27, 2009, 02:17:41 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
He gets a regular 20 Min's, by which time he's F**ked. Any anyway when has being a regular been compulsory to be on our team, I will mention young Woody. nuff said.

Paddy Doherty was in terrific form for Dunloy last year and started and finished virtually ever game until he injured his shoulder 2 weeks before the county semi final, those two matches being the only games i can recall where he only played a bit part.

the line about him being f**ked after 20mins is nonsense.

However I do think Antrim have a tendency to bring on young, potential hurlers with a view to building, problem is being involved with the county can at times have a negative effect on a playing career.  its a very specific character that can take the envitable dissapointments the county brings and return to club action fresh and hungry

I think we could all name young stars involved with the county in their early 20's but when they should  be reaching their peak instead of starring for the county they are struggling with their clubs.

And thats no go at S&W as it happens in every team
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Post by: cooki2222 on March 27, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 01:02:01 PM


I Heard the Antrim team this morning for the Kerry match,

1. C O Connell
2. Sean Delargy
3. Hippy
4. C Mc Gourty
5. Graffin
6. N Mc Auley
7. Searlas
8. Brendan Herron
9. Eddie Mc Closkey
10. Karl Stewart
11. N Mc Manus
12. Paddy Doc
13. Pj O Connell
14. Pinky
15 .Shane Mc Naughton

Not a bad team i suppose, heard Shorty ,JC, and Ciaran Herron, were injured.

no CJ McGourty yet???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 27, 2009, 02:50:57 PM
He is keeping his options open  :P
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 27, 2009, 04:40:46 PM
Team for Sunday per County Website

Chris o Connell     shamrocks

Kieran Mc Gourty  st galls

Cormac Donnelly   mc Quillans

Sean Delargy        ruairi og

Ciaran Herron        kevin lynch's

Arron Graffin         ruairi og

Karl Mc Keegan     ruairi og

Brendan Herron     lamh Dhearg

Eddie Mc Closkey shamrocks

Karl Stewart          st galls

Neil Mc Manus      ruairi og

Paddy Doherty     cuchullains

Shane Mc Naughton ruairi og

Kieran Kelly             mc quillans

PJ  O Connell          clooney gaels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
Graffin a bit light for centre half??

whats the new keeper like? it says shamrocks so is he Loughgiels new keeper? donnellys best position (doesn't have to run)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2009, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
Graffin a bit light for centre half??

whats the new keeper like? it says shamrocks so is he Loughgiels new keeper? donnellys best position (doesn't have to run)


He is the sub keeper for Loughguile and Antrim !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 07:25:36 PM
Milltown, you obviously didn't watch Graffins performance in the All Ireland Semi v La salle (even on TV). The man was immense throughout the 80 odd minutes. And lets face it not likely to be tested as much on sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 27, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
Was down in Parnell seen him up front that day, and have seen him many times, he's a class hurler, but a bit light.

can you imagine him up against Comeford 6"5 Shefflin 6"3 Haniffy 6"5 even the Dublin lads, all big lads.


yes he wont be taxed in centre half this week. but sure westmeath and Carlow (still can't get my head round that one) had other ideas.

this is just my opinion Jamesh
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Post by: JamesH on March 27, 2009, 10:55:30 PM
I don't have anyone bar Mc Manus that could hope to cope with the physical size of those guys, but like our club, your always robing Peter to pay Paul, so we need him up front. Niel Mc Auley was centre half last week, but while he is strong and has great stickwork, when turned is very short of pace and has no recovery, Graffin is actually bigger that you would think at 5'11, but has great timing under a high ball that no other player has again bar Mc Manus, and is quickish.
I think Dublin will be to much for us, if they keep going well they will attract more dual stars, thus will be on a role. What players do we have to return? The keeper was at fault for a goal last week, and nothing against him will not be a first team keeper in his club while dd is around and he is only 28/29 young for a keeper. So i think S&W putting him under undue pressure. Dinny brought Sean D into the squad at 18 and built him up and for three years he never hit a ball its only this 4 years he's come back, could be a problem for lots of young players.
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Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2009, 10:36:20 AM
Casement upgrade proposed by GAA 

Casement Park in west Belfast is Antrim's county GAA ground
Ulster GAA bosses are proposing that Casement Park should be upgraded to become the premier gaelic games venue in the province with a 40,000 capacity.

Following Sports Minister Gregory Campbell's decision to abandon the Maze project, he asked the three main sporting bodies to submit their ideas.

The GAA gave its proposals to the minister earlier this week.

The ball is now in the court of government as public money would be required to upgrade Casement.

Last month, the sports minister confirmed the widespread speculation that he had decided not to proceed with the Maze Stadium project.

Mr Campbell said the plan was not value for money and did not have political consensus.

The minister added that he intended to help the Irish Football Association, Ulster Rugby and the GAA to develop solutions to their stadia needs and the three sporting bodies were all asked to come up with proposals.

Ulster GAA bosses have moved quickly to submit their proposals although government's reaction remains to be seen.

Earlier this week, a business consortium, Eastonville Traders Ltd, proposed the building of a new stadium for football and rugby in the Sydenham area of east Belfast.

It said the arena would have a 20,000-capacity and would be built on a 90-acre site beside the Danny Blanchflower Stadium, but would not host GAA fixtures.

However, Ulster Rugby said it is not committed "in any way" to the proposed new stadium in east Belfast.

Ulster Rugby added that the lack of "any appropriate business case" meant it does not form part of its plans to develop stadia for the sport.

The IFA said it would welcome any proposals "provided the finances stack up".


from bbc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 28, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
Surpised to see mc auley missing for the number 6 spot. Hes normally steady enough and straong under a high ball. Is he injuryed or just dropped?
Was mc garry (keeper) sent off? I'd be tempted to have joey scullion in place of eddie, joey a got a bit more strengh to him and hes handy at sidelines.

agree with MR about full back being the play for hippy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 29, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
ANTRIM 3-19 4-14 KERRY Res
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 29, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Another pile of pish today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 29, 2009, 07:15:56 PM
anyone at the match? i was windsurfing at Ballycastles pitch today playing football!!!! needed concrete boots to keep me on the ground

poor enough performance i heard. is this a ploy? are we fooling Dublin into a false sense of security?

just seen the antrim website:


: Tommy McCartney29 March 2009The almighty men from a far away kingdom visited casement park today and served up, in what can only be described in unquestionable stipulations; a classic.

End to end, side to side hurling is what we witnessed today, with no mean skill on show.
The combatants of Antrim and Kerry will be swollen with pride to say they were implicated in today's confrontation. When some of these county icons hang up their boots at the end of the day they can enlighten their grandchildren about todays gargantuan encounter.
Shane Brick the Kerry conqueror gave a display on 'power hurling' that other textbook number elevens would have been tremendously overjoyed with. He was the captain of Kerrys ship and went speaking to reporters John Martin & Ed McGinley after he affirmed unconditionally 'We can hurl in Kerry hurling you know' with a blissful grin from cheek to cheek, that would remind you of a hurler from Kilkenny or Clare.

Terrance 'Sambo' McNaughton & Dominic 'Woody' McKillen will be tonight, in absolute terms; content, with their combatants display of as I like to call it 'the sweet antrim style'.

Final Score Antrim 3-19 Kerry 4-15

Tommy McCartney (true saffron aficionado)


how did Graffin do at number 6 today JamesH?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 29, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
Absolute ballix today. They hurled like they didn't care or couldn't hurl. It's time for Sambo to grab the bull by the balls and realise that Dublin will humiliate us in Croker, instead of trying to flog dodgy kegs of beer.
Horrible game. I look for positives but really, we are as shite as they come at the moment.

Hope we pull it together. The old Antrim 'hope' thing again. Someone commented to me today that "Those boys keep saying to me that Belfast hurling is shite, well, I can't wait 'til the better weather comes in and I get up to the caravan in Cushendall and give them a few home truths."

Too many men with their heads up their holes when they have done fcuk all worthy of shoving their head up their hole.

Would agree with that, too many of them standing about the pubs with their Antrim gear on thinking they are Henry Shefflin when they are doing a better impression of Lenny Henry at the minute. Cannot use the excuse "wait to we get the Cushendall boys back" either.......Our fellas are not half as good as they think they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2009, 09:52:29 PM
That is three horrendous performances in a row while Dublin are running Tipp close. Not looking promising!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 29, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
Jesus, i can't wait for tomorrows papers, If any credible jorno gives our performance  more than 4/10 ,he should be looking up the job section along with S&W. Dublin will be shitting themselves. I must apologise to Paddy Doc, he lasted nearly the whole match. He also scored two points and didn't look out of place, which tells you how Shiite we were. Bar Brendan Heron the boys were crap. The full forward line could hit a barn door, couldn't score in a brothel with a fifty glued to there arse. The Balls boys were faster looking than some of our crew. We already know how poor S&W are but this boy Stevenson what is he doing , more money well spent. Someone said the new control tower should be money well spent( as well as  locking the county Sec in it that is ), we could put nelson and the newest new stats man up there because they could at least control the crowd from there. Do they not communicate with the side line. Never mind the tower , somebody on Google earth could have made changes today. The footballers are going to meet us coming opposite way someday soon.  
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
sticking up for my club here but, why is everythin Sambo's/cushendall boys fault? Again back to the case that their are 2 in the management
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 29, 2009, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
sticking up for my club here but, why is everythin Sambo's/cushendall boys fault? Again back to the case that their are 2 in the management

Who blamed Sambo or the Cushendall players ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from: JamesH on March 29, 2009, 09:54:19 PM
I must apologise to Paddy Doc, he lasted nearly the whole match. He also scored two points and didn't look out of place, which tells you how Shiite we were.   

Cheap shot there JH. I hope Paddy makes you eat those words later in the year because he is a young developing hurler with the potential to do so. I can tell you in Dunloy that we are very happy with his progress.

I personally don't think that he should be on the panel at this stage as he needs to bed in at club level first. The same for young Woody. So as much as you feel that you have a point, is there any need to make it in such a personalised offensive way?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 30, 2009, 10:08:58 AM
Team for Sunday per County Website

Chris o Connell     shamrocks

Kieran Mc Gourty  st galls

Cormac Donnelly   mc Quillans

Sean Delargy        ruairi og

Ciaran Herron        kevin lynch's

Arron Graffin         ruairi og

Karl Mc Keegan     ruairi og

Brendan Herron     lamh Dhearg

Eddie Mc Closkey shamrocks

Karl Stewart          st galls

Neil Mc Manus      ruairi og

Paddy Doherty     cuchullains

Shane Mc Naughton ruairi og

Kieran Kelly             mc quillans

PJ  O Connell          clooney gaels

Boys if we take a look at it in the cold light of day and Im not getting at any of the players personally here.
We have two boys in the FBL who have zero pace and we wonder why we are conceding goals.
We play our best corner back who is also too light for CHB at CHB?

Surely after 3 years we should be apporaching a stage barring injuries where we should know our best 15/16 players and should be starting them in games together to get some sort of team play going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2009, 10:16:59 AM
Well I though Graffin played the position very well against DLS. I sure S&W thought the same thing and decided that he was worth a shot at CHB. Just because you try things and they don't work out (initiallly) does mean that it shouldn't have been tried.

Hindsight and all that ........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 30, 2009, 10:27:14 AM
Skull im not arguing specifically against Graffin playing there and I agree he did a good job there against DLS. But my point is that, this type of switch should be looked at on a one off basis and after 3 years of tinkering about we should be at least able to name you who is likely to start where but this doesnt seem to be the case and we wonder why we are so inconsistent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
forgive me for repeating myself, but why was neal mc auley not playing CHB at the game? Thought he has be steady all year.
If my history is correct Karl mc Keegan has had some of his finest games in at antrim shirt at CHB, why not put him there and give Graffin a chance out the wing.

Kerrys CHB was too physical for McManus? Move pinky on to him and tell him to break the ball and have paddy doc sniffing around trying to pick up the loose ball. Simple game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 30, 2009, 11:33:29 AM
Youngfella his lack of pace!

Karl also seems to be suffering from the notion that he is too loose to play at CHB, he doesnt mark tight enough. The point is that he is the best natural CHB we have and he should be allowed to play there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 30, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: NAG on March 30, 2009, 11:33:29 AM
Youngfella his lack of pace!

Karl also seems to be suffering from the notion that he is too loose to play at CHB, he doesnt mark tight enough. The point is that he is the best natural CHB we have and he should be allowed to play there.

Whos lack of Pace nag? Pinkys all he would have to do is play a spoiler role
Agree with you totally about Karl should be playing CHB, however i have heard good reports about mc auley playing number 6, hes still quite young tho.

Were there many booking yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on March 30, 2009, 01:17:55 PM
Youngfella
I was refering to NMcA percieved lack of pace because I dont think he ovely slow compared to others that have played there.
If your not going to play Karl there then he is the next choice IMO but this is the problem we have we have pissed about that much with different teams that we have given anyone a run of ganes to get settled in a pivotal position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on March 30, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
i think antrim needs to unearth big hurlers. for some reason, football included antrim, dont seem to have big gifted players. (coming from me :P)

we are one of the biggest counties and I'd say we have maybe one player over 6'3 Carlow are a big team and by all accounts Kerry were also a big team Offaly another big team Kilkenny another big team, then throw in your Tipps Waterfords and the rest.

i blame the chippys to be honest ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on March 31, 2009, 06:22:04 PM
Jesus that county website has gone to P***. That aghagallon-county PRO has lost the plot completely! We have,nt got it full stop! Bradley has at least instilled a bit of belief in the footballers, the other two idiots could,nt even spell the word. Listen they are only there because they are cheap and low maintenance, you all BS on about this COE at antrim, we continually pay for the sins of x-county chairmen who systematically looked the other way when it came to the reddies! We can,t afford anyone thats the bottom line, and until the county shrugs off the debt created by previous chairs we will stay exactly where we are!!!

We should put the COE on hold and pay for the likes of Justin Mc Carthy etc to come and instill the confidence,intelligence and belief that we lack completely. The skill level is their but the intelligence isn't!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 31, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 29, 2009, 11:56:17 PM
Took my young nephew to the game, and he thought it was great with all the goals going in :). But jaysus boys that was bad.
I keep trying to convince myself that, we will sometime in the not too distant future compete with the high table of hurling, but on the last three displays id say we wouldn't even win a christy ring cup! Honestly!


Groundlie your right; Antrim's level whether people like it or not is Div 2 / Christy Ring Cup level and i know this is boring to say but until we are competing at underage over a number of years that will be our level. And when i say competing at underage im talking about:

1. Different clubs competing and even winning Div 1 of the u14 Feile,
2. The county minors winning, and if not winning at least not getting humped, outside of the Ulster championship,
3 .The u21s getting to an Ireland final, and
4. A single school, or if has to be, a combined schools team getting to and winning the All Ireland A colleges.

Do all of thes things sound familiar to people? Well they should because that is what teams from Dublin have done over the last 5 years. So no one cant say that such things aren't possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2009, 08:48:18 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on March 31, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
was just watching highlights of the dublin tipp game. Antrim in there current form will get beat by more than a dozen points easily, furthermore Dublin will play the cats in the leinster final, and wouldnt be too far away!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 31, 2009, 11:00:03 PM
dublin has far better facilities, more rich men, more government support and more full time coaches than antrim has and in 5/8years i would guess dublin could be a top 4 team. antrim hasnt the resources to match this. thats a first. dublin also has a larger population base who are involved in gaa which we don't have in Antrim. I agree that things have to be done/aspired to, but what works in Dublin won't work in Antrim. Each county top county has their own plan specific to the needs of that county.

to get to division 1 feile, you need years of work before hand, you cant just throw teams in there
for good minor teams/u21, you need excellent preparation/development squads, but more importantly good dedicated players, which are nurtured by their clubs
maybe a combined SA schools and a combined NA schools might work.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
Cross and Passion's game against Colaiste Eoin is down for 4 o'clock in Newry on Sunday with Deccy Magee the referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
Cross and Passion's game against Colaiste Eoin is down for 4 o'clock in Newry on Sunday with Deccy Magee the referee.

I predict a riot.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 01, 2009, 03:18:21 PM
Aye now to be fair decky isnt great!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2009, 06:03:36 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
Cross and Passion's game against Colaiste Eoin is down for 4 o'clock in Newry on Sunday with Deccy Magee the referee.

Apologies ladies and gentlemen, I misread the paper - C&P's match is on Saturday evening at 4pm! Good thing as otherwise it was going to be very tight for the multitudes to get to Newry from Portlaoise on Sunday afternoon - the M50 would have been bedlam!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2009, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 01, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2009, 02:53:50 PM
Cross and Passion's game against Colaiste Eoin is down for 4 o'clock in Newry on Sunday with Deccy Magee the referee.

I predict a riot.........
I fully expect the ref to blend into the background and allow a good hard game of free-flowing hurling  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 01, 2009, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 31, 2009, 11:00:03 PM
dublin has far better facilities, more rich men, more government support and more full time coaches than antrim has and in 5/8years i would guess dublin could be a top 4 team. antrim hasnt the resources to match this. thats a first. dublin also has a larger population base who are involved in gaa which we don't have in Antrim. I agree that things have to be done/aspired to, but what works in Dublin won't work in Antrim. Each county top county has their own plan specific to the needs of that county.

to get to division 1 feile, you need years of work before hand, you cant just throw teams in there
for good minor teams/u21, you need excellent preparation/development squads, but more importantly good dedicated players, which are nurtured by their clubs
maybe a combined SA schools and a combined NA schools might work.


My point was really just to concur with Groundlie's assessment that Antrim are Div 2 level. No where in the country has the population of Dublin but Antrim i think are in the top 5 in the country in terms of number of clubs in the county so why cant they, as you say Colonel, put their own specific 10/15 year plan in place and at least aim to be really competitive at underage. I think that can be done but a monumental amount of work, dedication, preparation and cash is needed over a long period of time. Whether the county board has the vision and the will to think along those lines anybodys guess is as good as mine.

Fair play to S&W for trying to change the mindset and working hard with the players but when you dont have the raw material coming through (and im having noy having a go at any player) and are trying to manufacture the finished product at that age (19,20 or 21) you just will not producw a sustained level of competitiveness over a long period of time.

Good luck to CPC on Saturday and i think it should give an insight, however small, into how underage development is progressing in Antrim and Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 02, 2009, 08:29:23 AM
Fairhead to be honest I agree with most of your assessment.

However S&W enherited the minors that they worked with from our development system and this is supposedly the best bunch of hurlers that we have produced at one time in the last few years and I have yet to see an improvement in any of them. And that is being perfectly honest. When these boys were minors they were pushing hard but this has not made the transfer to the senior grade I am not saying that I know why these guys havent progressed the way they should have but heaping the pressure on them the way that S&W have done has certainly not helped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 02, 2009, 10:31:17 AM
Minors will be too late to do anything with IMO, The work will have to start at U11/12 where the right standards are ingrained, skills, style of play, mental toughness, discipline etc etc. Back to the drawing board I am afraid, don't be fooling yourself otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2009, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 02, 2009, 10:31:17 AM
Minors will be too late to do anything with IMO, The work will have to start at U11/12 where the right standards are ingrained, skills, style of play, mental toughness, discipline etc etc. Back to the drawing board I am afraid, don't be fooling yourself otherwise.


And that has to happen in the clubs. 80-90% of them anyway. When you look at the problems in the South Antrim leagues getting teams to show for their fixtures, then you can see that the problems go farther than S&W. Points regarding S&W's tenure may have a certain validity, but why should we persist with scraping at the surface of the challenges that need to be faced. Easy targets for our frustrations
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 02, 2009, 12:00:17 PM
Guys I was using their tenure to do anything other than illustrate the point.

This was the first good bunch we have brought the the development system with all its flaws but instead of following up the good work with sound practice it was thrown away.
There needs to be a complete overhall and no matter what manager is incharge from u10 club to u13 development squad right through to the top that they are working to that system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2009, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 02, 2009, 12:00:17 PM
Guys I was using their tenure to do anything other than illustrate the point.

This was the first good bunch we have brought the the development system with all its flaws but instead of following up the good work with sound practice it was thrown away.
There needs to be a complete overhall and no matter what manager is incharge from u10 club to u13 development squad right through to the top that they are working to that system.

And when you go looking for body's to do what people think is needed (and it is) there is sadly not enough people with the right skills & the time and energy to do them. Most dedicated coaches are beavering away in their clubs who are already stretched as it is. In KK and the likes they must have additional coaching resources at hand to work development systems properly.

There are plenty of eager volunteers but sadly there are too many lazy bastards relying on too few to do all the work up here.

How do you convince these people that they need to get involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 02, 2009, 12:23:07 PM
I think that central council have a duty of care to the GAA in belfast and this means an injection of funds to help coaching in the city in the schools and in the clubs.

Yes the people on the ground are limited but i think that if a clear system can be put in place as too how we develop our kids into being competitive on the national stage then people can buy into it and be part of it. They will see their place in the grand scheme of things even if that means they are coaching the u8's at their club. Each stage will have a place on the ladder to getting top class hurlers out at the other end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 03, 2009, 01:54:43 PM
Any word on the team for the laois game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 03, 2009, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 03, 2009, 01:54:43 PM
Any word on the team for the laois game?

Think Woody is quoted in the IN as saying they are holding off until tomorrow as there are a few injury issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 04, 2009, 06:10:13 PM
C&P win 3-10 to 1-12 - fair play to them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 04, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Excellent stuff from CPC, were you at the match cloot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 04, 2009, 07:54:37 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 04, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Excellent stuff from CPC, were you at the match cloot

Nope - got a couple of texts from some one who was. C&P had a man sent off after about 10 minutes but led at the half 2-6 to 0-3 with the assistance of a strong wind. Obviously held on a bit in the second half. Apparently Clarke in at corner forward was the star of the show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 04, 2009, 08:27:30 PM
Winning the thing at all is some achievment but to do it with 14 men is amazing. Fair play to Joe Cassidy and Oran Kearney they have made some difference there. Young Clark is meant to be a clinker from people I have talked to although I have not seen him myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on April 04, 2009, 09:04:33 PM
Well done the Ballycastle school. What level is this competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 05, 2009, 12:15:46 PM
I think it would probably be described as the "B" Schools.
Cross and Passion were pretty dominant with only 1-1 or 1-2 coming from play from the Dublin crowd.
Very good standard and some good hurlers on show who will hopefully now join the county minor set up.

Full back Donnelly was a beast of a man and scored a couple of wind assisted frees from inside his own forty. If he keeps the weight off, speeds up a little he has alot to offer as his touch was super.
The midfield and half back line were strong.
Number 10 dropped back in to cover the wing half back who had been sent off and did well throwing himself about.
Up front Clark(e?) was the star of the show - he was ploughing a lone furrow up there (abley assisted now and again by the full forward). His goal in the second half was the mark of a real future star and came at a good time for Cross and Passion.

Cassidy and Kearney deserve immense praise for what they have done there. Was a great atmosphere and great for the school and the town.
Hard work does pay off and they showed it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
Antrim 2-18 Laois 0-18. Good result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
Antrim were 2-14 to 0-8 up at one stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
Is that the final score two hands? Good result alright and a pleasant surprise :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 02:50:22 PM
According to Drici Karl Stewart scored 2-6 fair dues to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
From the county website Cross & Passion College Ballycastle won the O'Keefe Cup (All Ireland College B Hurling) at Pairc Esler Newry on Saturday when they beat Colaiste Eoin from Dublin by 3-12 to 1-11 in a thrilling final.
The North Antrim boys were dominant during the opening half when playing with the aid of stiff breeze, and two goals from Ciaran Clarke and one from Matthew Donnelly gave them a three goal interval lead, despite playing for most of the half with fourteen men after having a player sent-off after just five minutes.
The Dublin college fought back well in the second half but Cross & Passion were always in control and sealed the school's first All Ireland hurling title with a seven point win.
Scorers – C Clarke 2-6; M Donnelly 1-2; S Jenning 0-3; C McAfee 0-1

Very good win well done to all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2009, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
Is that the final score two hands? Good result alright and a pleasant surprise :)
Dont think you would class that as a "surprise",Laois are not going well and Antrim were 1/2 with bookies to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 03:16:22 PM
Considering the last three results it is a very pleasant surprise. Dont go runing down Laois just because Antrim beat them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2009, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 03:16:22 PM
Considering the last three results it is a very pleasant surprise. Dont go runing down Laois just because Antrim beat them
Who is "running them down"? Are we not allowed to say a team isnt going well? Are the bookies also running them down for making Antrim heavy favourites in an away game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 04:20:24 PM
Laois and Antrim have been neck and neck for the last five years, as for the bookies they had Mon Mone at 100-1 for the grand national!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 04:22:54 PM
From the county website

Antrim withstood a spirited comeback by Laois to record their third win in Division 2 of the National Hurling League at O'Moore Park, Portlaoise.
Leading by thirteen points at one stage, and by nine at half-time, (after having had the use of a stiff breeze) Antrim were severely tested in the final minutes as the home side closed to within two scores, and it took a fantastic save by goalkeeper Chris O'Connell and a last gasp block by defender Neil McAuley to deny Laois.
Antrim made a great start when Neil McManus and Karl Stewrt grabbed goals and with Paul Shiels superb at midfield they went on to dominate, Shiels scoring directly from a sideline 'cut', from long range frees and from play.
When they pulled thirteen points clear there seemed no way they would be troubled, but Laois closed the gap to nine by the interval, thanks to some fine scores from James Young.
  The Saffrons appeared to switch off during the second half as Young led his team's comeback, and when they closed to within two goals there were a few anxious moments for the visitors.
However the defence held firm to secure a much needed win, a result which keeps a league final place a possibility if they can beat offaly in Tullamore in their last game in two weeks time.
ANTRIM – Chris O'Connell, Ciaran McGourty, Cormac Donnelly, Arran Graffin, Karl McKeegan, Johnny Campbell, Neil McAuley, Paul Shiels, Brendan Herron, Karl Stewart, Neil McManus, Sean Delargy, Shane McNaughton, Kieran Kelly, Joey Scullion.
Subs – PJ O'Connell for Shane McNaughton; Michael Herron for Kiearan Kelly

Good result away from home, Offaly will undubtedly be tougher but at least we are going there with something to play for.
No Paddy Richmond or Ryan McGarry involved are they both still suspended?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 05, 2009, 04:53:56 PM
Very impressive first half display from Antrim. Karl Stewart took his goal very well and Antrim coasted to a 1-13 to 0-7 half time lead. Some great scores for points. Shorty hits a mean sideline cut, at least one of which went for a point, but the distance and loft was impressive.

Neil McManus got a goal a couple of minutes into the second half and the game looked over but Laois rallied rightly with James Young and Willie Hyland very prominent. Antrim also got a bit sloppy e.g. Karl McKeegan took a 70 short to Shorty, who was penalised for being too close; a couple of flicks were tried on the ball that had they come off would have been spectacular but didn't and Laois profited; and a couple of short puc outs went pretty disasrously wrong. On that point, I don't know why Antrim bothered because, even against the wind O'Connell was getting considerable distance into them. You get the impression that, if Antrim had kept to the simple things, there would have been a more straightforward closing out of the game

Notwithstanding Antrim won by 6, the last 10 minutes were edgy enough stuff with the crowd coming in for the Under 21 football game beginning to get behind the home team - I was happy enough to hear the final whistle at the end of it.

Anyway, after a couple of ropey performances, it seemed as if the wheels are back on the wagon. The team seemed very up for the game (in the first half anyway) and for each other (not always a given with Antrim!).

I hear Wexford handed Offaly a bit of hiding, which makes things interesting for next week . . .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 04:56:45 PM
They have been at a lot of that short passing stuff all year, seems like a gameplan from watching them. Dont like it myself but I am old fashioned. Was there much of a crowd there Cloot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 05, 2009, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 04:56:45 PM
They have been at a lot of that short passing stuff all year, seems like a gameplan from watching them. Dont like it myself but I am old fashioned. Was there much of a crowd there Cloot?


Would figure there was a couple of hundred max at throw in. There was a bit of a shout alright for the Antrim goals, but I didn't see many at all. The main stand filled up throughout the second half as people came in for the football game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 05, 2009, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 04:56:45 PM
They have been at a lot of that short passing stuff all year, seems like a gameplan from watching them. Dont like it myself but I am old fashioned. Was there much of a crowd there Cloot?


Sorry, meant to say as well in the previous post.

Laois played a two man full forward line with the spare man between their full and half back lines, so the short puc out was actually on a lot more than it was used. It was only really tried a couple of times - to be honest O'Connell's puc outs, even against the wind, were (with one or two exceptions) very strong. However, I can't recall one occasion where it worked "like clockwork", a couple of times when it worked with difficulty and one particular time which was a shocker and ended up with an easy Laois score.

On the other hand, Laois used the tactic quite well, particularly in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2009, 10:25:21 PM
We now have three defenders in thr forward line :o

Sambo and Woody's minor team always did a lot of short passing. Seems to be their approach/ I think the thinking is we don't play quick enough so if we move the ball out of trouble by short passing we'll not be bottled up so much...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 06, 2009, 08:45:46 AM
That the problem why we get bottled up so much is because of the short passing, look at Galway yesterday any of their shorter passes were direct and cross field and not under 30-40 yards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 06, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
I tend to agree with NAG we may improve as the year goes on but currently our short passing is very laboured and gets us into trouble against Div 2 opposition. As the opposition improves so will the tackling from them. Hopefully the bright nights will bring it on a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:09:24 PM
Karl Stewart got 2-6 Groundlie, who else can S&W bring into the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 06, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:09:24 PM
Karl Stewart got 2-6 Groundlie, who else can S&W bring into the game?

1-6 Milltown - though I take your point. The one goal he did get though was excellently taken.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
sorry cloot, mis heard info in club yesterday.

so who can Sambo bring into the squad?  will he look at players once the season starts or stick with the players he has already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:26:44 PM
Milltown this is the bit that is really getting to me and annoying me. They have had 3 years now to look at players is it not about time that we were getting a settled team bar a couple of injuries/ suspensions. We are continually pissing about with the team and the boys are getting used to playing with one another and getting into a system of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 06, 2009, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
sorry cloot, mis heard info in club yesterday.

so who can Sambo bring into the squad?  will he look at players once the season starts or stick with the players he has already?

I would imagine the line in the Irish News will be that the door is always open and anyone can play his way into the squad/team.

However, surely to God, the reality must be that, with the obvious exception of Winker, there is nobody else out there at the minute with any serious potential. Is there?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 06, 2009, 03:39:25 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:26:44 PM
Milltown this is the bit that is really getting to me and annoying me. They have had 3 years now to look at players is it not about time that we were getting a settled team bar a couple of injuries/ suspensions. We are continually pissing about with the team and the boys are getting used to playing with one another and getting into a system of hurling.

I have to agree NAG. S&W seem to have the attitude that if a player is good enough he can play anywhere, which might cut it at club level, but you can get badly found out at inter-county.

For example, to accomodate Johnny Campbell coming back into the team yesterday, Sean Delargy got moved from corner back to wing forward. I think Delargy on his day is an excellent corner back, but all the shifting around can't help a settled team develop.

I think it was Maxpower that pointed out our (relative) abundance of riches at half back - McAuley, McKeegan, Campbell, Herron (C), McManus and (arguably) Graffin are all natural half backs. S&W have to decide on the first 3 and play them consistently - its only fair to them and to the rest of the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 06, 2009, 03:56:38 PM
The only reason that SD ended up in the defence was because he was making no head way as a forward. I think he is one of the better corner back options that we have but he def is not a forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 06, 2009, 05:29:48 PM
after the match this sunday i hope that S&W sit down and look at how we are going to beat Dublin. I'd say they will have analyzed the dublin team, watched various vidoes and workout their game plan. picked out weaknesses and have a game plan that will upset the Dublin team and win the match.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/20/article-0-004686DC00000258-352_233x423.jpg)

Just like that!!!!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2009, 09:24:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 06, 2009, 07:54:01 PM
They could do with players like tosh and mcfall to bring these young lads on, instead of throwing them into the deep end!

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/20/article-0-004686DC00000258-352_233x423.jpg)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 06, 2009, 10:27:10 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 05, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
From the county website Cross & Passion College Ballycastle won the O'Keefe Cup (All Ireland College B Hurling) at Pairc Esler Newry on Saturday when they beat Colaiste Eoin from Dublin by 3-12 to 1-11 in a thrilling final.
The North Antrim boys were dominant during the opening half when playing with the aid of stiff breeze, and two goals from Ciaran Clarke and one from Matthew Donnelly gave them a three goal interval lead, despite playing for most of the half with fourteen men after having a player sent-off after just five minutes.
The Dublin college fought back well in the second half but Cross & Passion were always in control and sealed the school's first All Ireland hurling title with a seven point win.
Scorers – C Clarke 2-6; M Donnelly 1-2; S Jenning 0-3; C McAfee 0-1

Very good win well done to all involved


Just wanted to add my congratulations for CPC's victory on Saturday. It didnt look very good for them 10 mins in to the game being 2 points down playing with the breeze and a man down. However they soon got to the pace of the game and the harrying and closing down on Col Eoin players in possession was a key factor. The Dublin side wanted to get the ball in the hand and run with it all the time so they made no use of the spare man which was poor management i thought from their point of view.

CPC were dominant up the centre of the defence with Matthew Donnelly and Sean Birt superb throughout. The 2 midfielders Laverty and Smyth worked there socks off against bigger opponents and surely over the next few years you will see Cloughmills move up from junior hurling given the number of good young players they have produced over the last few years. Shane Jennings got 3 great points from play all in the 1st half when they were most needed and then you had the man of the match in Ciaran Clarke with 2.6. None of the rest of the lads let themselves down either so once again well done to one and all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 06, 2009, 11:12:13 PM
Is young Laverty a son of Geoffreys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 06, 2009, 11:18:40 PM
Yes he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 06, 2009, 11:29:50 PM
Will there be many of that panel still available next year Fairhead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 07, 2009, 12:30:07 AM
Delighted for my old school Cross and Passion to win an All-Ireland. I was totally unaware they were in the final as I've left home 14 years now. Hard to keep up to date. The very same day they were playing I wore an old Cross and Passion jacket to work. It had been laying in the wardrobe for a long time and I think I kept it there for sentimental reason's. How ironic I should put it on out of the blue when the school was involved in one of the biggest games in it's history. Was slightly disappointed Micky Dallet wasn't involved not sure where he is now. But when I went there himself the late Brian Thompson, Seamus Hegarty and Kathleen Mc Gowan were to the fore for promoting hurling. I'm sure they will take alot of satisfaction with this win where ever they may be. Cross and Passion is in the middle of a great catchment area for Hurling. With youngsters comming from Ballycastle, Baile an tuaigh ;), Cushendun, Armoy, Loughiel,  Glenariffe and Cushendall.

Sign of times when a Linfield player was training the lads. Dose anyone know if this means  C.P.C play in section A next year?


If Antrim didn't lose to Carlow they would be at the top of division two. I might be the only one here that hopes they don't get promoted. Were at a level where we can compete at at the moment. The thought of 30 point hammering's every second week dose nothing for us.
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 09:05:23 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.

Deserved it too, will be looking at 3 months i would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 09:52:29 AM
Just asking Minder..not getting at ye. Glenariffe have had a problem with their discipline for the last few years on the pitch...wot can be done to stop it as they have some talented hurlers. Or is it just a matter of some players growing up??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 09:52:29 AM
Just asking Minder..not getting at ye. Glenariffe have had a problem with their discipline for the last few years on the pitch...wot can be done to stop it as they have some talented hurlers. Or is it just a matter of some players growing up??

No from all accounts he did deserve it, the majority of them dont have a problem. It is about three or four players and everyone knows who they are...........As regards "growing up" only time will tell but they are not youngsters anymore. Noel Brick, who  has been training them last year and this threw in the towel at the weekend because of boys f*cking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 07, 2009, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.

Was this an UL game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 07, 2009, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on April 07, 2009, 12:30:07 AM


Sign of times when a Linfield player was training the lads. Dose anyone know if this means  C.P.C play in section A next year?

 

Not sure Baile an tuaigh, but I don't think so. At least, it's not obligatory. St Pat's Maghera won it a couple of years ago and didn't go A.

The reality is that the winners of the Mageean Cup (which is the Ulster A competition) go into the All Ireland series at B level. I know Ulster teams have got to the last 5 O'Keeffe finals and have won 2, but my own view is that the Ulster Colleges at individual schools are better off staying at B level for a wee while yet. One idea that has been floated on this board which I think is a great idea is either an Antrim Schools team or North Antrim and South Antrim schools teams going into the A competition - perhaps an "Ulster final" between them with the winner going into the All Ireland semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on April 07, 2009, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.

Was this an UL game?

Yes against Ballycran, they got tanked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 07, 2009, 10:53:31 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2009, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on April 07, 2009, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.

Was this an UL game?

Yes against Ballycran, they got tanked.

Did you play us on the saturday evening then Ballycran on the sunday then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2009, 10:57:26 AM
Do they not realise the futility of the kind of things that have been happening down there for the last few years. When they did concentrate on hurling they were quite competitve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 07, 2009, 10:53:31 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2009, 10:24:58 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on April 07, 2009, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
New Season. Same old Glenariffe. 1 man sent off.

Was this an UL game?

Yes against Ballycran, they got tanked.

Did you play us on the saturday evening then Ballycran on the sunday then?

Yes, it was a a bit tighter i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 07, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
i think from that team CPC only lose birt, smyth and scally so the potential is there for another crack at it.

who got the line for glenariffe and what did he do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 07, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
i think from that team CPC only lose birt, smyth and scally so the potential is there for another crack at it.

who got the line for glenariffe and what did he do?

Randall Mc Donnell for pulling round his man after getting a slap from what i have been told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 07, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
thought it would have been the brother or the cousin to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Thats a shocking waste of talent, he has everything that we are crying out for size, strenght and skill and yet he is getting the line in a UL match that means nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2009, 01:35:07 PM
The growing up is past them boys now I think. McDonnell & Doherty are two that come to mind who seem far too busy trying to prove their manliness rather than focusing on hurling. Both had good potential if their attitudes were right. Now young Doherty who was serious talent when he came onto the scene hurls with wing mirrors on because he thinks his past is going to come back to haunt him and has went back seriously as a result IMO.

Discipline is laid down by the club and management. Needs to be dealt with at juvenile level (before they level U16/U18 anyway)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
seems there may be a new player brought into Sambo's panel tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
seems there may be a new player brought into Sambo's panel tonight.

Young CJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:58:14 PM
Minder i'm not one to gossip.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:58:14 PM
Minder i'm not one to gossip.......

Same as myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 07, 2009, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2009, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
seems there may be a new player brought into Sambo's panel tonight.

Young CJ?

You are joking??????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2009, 02:07:21 PM
Come off it seriously?

Is there no way that we can send a united front here for discipline with the county teams? What signal does this send to young boys out there aspiring to be inter county players when they can abuse one manager and but its ok for him to represent the county in the other code.

What back bone does this show from S&W, I am seriously disppointed if this proves to be true I thought there was more to them than this but then again, how can you be shocked at anything in this county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 07, 2009, 02:21:25 PM
If this is true it is appalling. Fully agree with all you have said NAG.
I will never ever stop supporting Antrim, until the day I die, but I am being persistently tested and that is outside of lactlustre inconsistent displays. 
If he is there wearing the number 13 v Dublin and scores the winning point I'll cheer but it won't be anything to do with him and increasingly less so to do with Sambo and Woody.

MR and Firehill - for clarification purposes again before I am deemed to be abusing the relevant party and/or his family it is about more than that and what we will become or rather have become as a county. I'm not sure what we stand for.

Would love to hear the Baker's reaction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2009, 02:26:05 PM
Dont get me wrong lads I dont care who the party is here involved, I have nothing against this party or any party neccessarily. My total objection to this is our lack or backbone and lack moral leadership from firstly our Hurling management for entertaining this in the first place and secondly to the county executive for allowing this situation to develop.

Glensman it is just a drip drip drip effect at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 07, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
And the drip is on top of my forehead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture


Scotland and Rangers provided alot to be learned from in the last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 07, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
in the pre congress publication some of the facts and figures are staggering

numbers of teams registered- all ages and grades hurling and football
and their grant for games development from croke park 2008 (figures in euros)
dublin- 1675- £1.637m
cork- 2458-  £44,850
galway- 1003-  £22,940
limerick- 1133- 23,920
tipp- 1320- £24,420
wexford- 822- £23,920
kerry- 814 £13,900
tyrone 578- 7,745
kilkenny 672- 27,000

Antrim- 728- £11960 9th lowest for games dev.

just some examples

there was a toal of 52m in grants to provinces clubs and counties-

antrim got 2m for CoE by the look of it.
tipp got 6.5m
mayo 3m
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 04:20:26 PM
lads relax, i was bored and thought i'd throw a curve ball today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 07, 2009, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 07, 2009, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2009, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 07, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
seems there may be a new player brought into Sambo's panel tonight.

Young CJ?

You are joking??????????????

It is a joke if he is added to the squad. cj with all due respect isnt good enough for the panel and shoudnt be near it. There much better hurlers in the county that deserve a place before that prima donna.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 07, 2009, 04:46:31 PM
Wouldnt be suprised curve ball or not MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2009, 05:15:02 PM
Surely all this (the player and the rumour) is all mouth and no trousers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 07, 2009, 05:15:02 PM
Surely all this (the player and the rumour) is all mouth and no trousers?
Not so Skull, well the rumour anyway. My sources tell me management are keen to get him on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 07, 2009, 05:25:31 PM
hopefully its an elaborate prank  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2009, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 07, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 07, 2009, 05:15:02 PM
Surely all this (the player and the rumour) is all mouth and no trousers?
Not so Skull, well the rumour anyway. My sources tell me management are keen to get him on board.

Well the first bit certainly is  :). Some boys seem to get reputations out of no where ??? He is nowhere near standard on any occasion I have seen him with a stick in his hand. More interested in mouthin than hurling....and that is a fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 07, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
I see Paudie Mc Shane is bringing the same "softly, softly" approach that he had on the hurling field to local politics  ;D

Councillor sorry for f-word rant 


A Sinn Fein councillor has apologised after a four-letter word outburst at a council meeting in Ballycastle.

Sinn Fein's Padraig McShane swore during a debate at Moyle Council on the future of Rathmoyle Residential Home.

The council's chairman, Ulster Unionist Willie Graham, had ruled Mr McShane would not be able to speak on the issue on Monday night.

The councillor used the f-word and other abusive terms at the chairman and kicked a chair as he left the chamber.

On Tuesday he apologised for his language. "I apologise unreservedly for the choice of words I used, but this is an extremely emotive issue," he said.

"The response was a reflection of the feelings of the local community here in Moyle."

Speaking after the meeting, Councillor Graham said he had never witnessed such behaviour in council before.

"In all my years in council I have never witnessed anything like this and the behaviour and the remarks Councillor McShane came out with to me," he said.

"In future he needs to think about how he conducts himself when he comes to a council meeting."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 07, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Good for Paudie a bit of straight talking never went amiss  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 07, 2009, 08:25:13 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on April 07, 2009, 12:30:07 AM
Delighted for my old school Cross and Passion to win an All-Ireland. I was totally unaware they were in the final as I've left home 14 years now. Hard to keep up to date. The very same day they were playing I wore an old Cross and Passion jacket to work. It had been laying in the wardrobe for a long time and I think I kept it there for sentimental reason's. How ironic I should put it on out of the blue when the school was involved in one of the biggest games in it's history. Was slightly disappointed Micky Dallet wasn't involved not sure where he is now. But when I went there himself the late Brian Thompson, Seamus Hegarty and Kathleen Mc Gowan were to the fore for promoting hurling. I'm sure they will take alot of satisfaction with this win where ever they may be. Cross and Passion is in the middle of a great catchment area for Hurling. With youngsters comming from Ballycastle, Baile an tuaigh ;), Cushendun, Armoy, Loughiel,  Glenariffe and Cushendall.

Sign of times when a Linfield player was training the lads. Dose anyone know if this means  C.P.C play in section A next year?

If Antrim didn't lose to Carlow they would be at the top of division two. I might be the only one here that hopes they don't get promoted. Were at a level where we can compete at at the moment. The thought of 30 point hammering's every second week dose nothing for us.
 

Mickey Dallet is still at the school alright Baile an Tuaigh; in fact he bounded down the steps of the stand on Sat and leapt across the pitch like a spring lamb when the final whistle went. He still takes teams alright he just wasn't with that one.

I dont think the Ulster champions are under any obligation to go in to the A colleges but i think if the Mageean winners were to continue getting to the B final and winning them every other year id imagine the pressure will come on them to go up to A. However maybe the Dublin route, as i mentioned before, going with a combined team might come in to play.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
Did they not experiment a few years ago with the college all stars playing in the A semi final or am I mistaken?

Good to see C`& P win it. Hopefully it's a sign we've a good crop of minors this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
The County Chairman must be smarting from the performance of the Antrim hurlers without the Dall lads, as I would guess it was him who has sent in an amendment proposal under the guise of the Cushendun club:

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1590 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=1590)

"The Provincial and All Ireland Club Championships shall be completed prior to the commencement of the following year's National Leagues".
Rules affected:   Rule 71, 73 and 90 O.G.

C.L.G. Roibeard Emmet, Aontroim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 08, 2009, 01:12:55 PM
I thought he would have had more of a grip on the fact that the GAA calander is already stretched and compact and that this is the only time is realistically can be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 01:14:19 PM
He would need to do something as there are a lot of unhappy people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 08, 2009, 01:15:23 PM
Unhappy with what and who are the unhappy people? Teachtaire
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
Unhappy with the performances on the field - you really don't have to be a rocket scientist to work it out. The people are just ordinary Joe Soaps like me who are frustrated that we as a county are not achieving our potential. IMO, people are justified in being unhappy about this situation.

Are you happy with what you have seen? Are you happy with the Carlow result? Are you happy with the Kerry result?

What do you suggest that should be done to improve our circumstances?

The thing is that I'm not a member of the anti-antrim brigade who will have a pop at the county board just because it is the county board. But the antrim web site will not allow Antrim people express their sense of frustration. The level of hysteria and arrogance displayed by the administrators is a real head in the sand approach.

NAG what do attribute the poor performances to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 08, 2009, 01:35:18 PM
Welll I certainly dont put it down to the fact that we were missing a few of the cushendalls boys for the early part of the league and that was my point.

I have a number of concerns re the current squad and the balance of it esp the lack of scoring power.

I also have an issue with the management that we havent come up with either a settled team (even panel) or system of play in 3 years and we look no closer to doing this.

That is more frustrating to me than anything, we should have decided by now what players we are going forward with and get a system of play which suits these players the best.

The county board/ website do not except criticism of any kind be it warranted or not and there are alot of genuine people on this board who only want to see antrim succeed but are continually let down by things are going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 08, 2009, 01:39:46 PM
My memory could be playing tricks but the Cushendall match was played before the debacles against Westmeath & Carlow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 08, 2009, 01:45:56 PM
My point exactly  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 01:49:00 PM
NAG I agree with everything you have said.

I always thought that JMcS was a fairly level sort of guy and I was surprised that he would have allowed some of the responses from the administrators on the antrim web-site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 08, 2009, 01:52:32 PM
Allowed or typed was that?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 02:09:45 PM
If what you say is true then that makes it all the more frustrating - a dictatorship. "Think what I think and if you don't, then, tough, I will take your right to comment away."

However, JMcS is an educated man. The comments on the Antrim site seem to come from some sort of narrow minded, self-important person/persons who appear to be interested in their little bit of power. Surely, they cannot be the thoughts of an educated man.

In fact, the attitude reflected in these responses illustrate a key reason why Antrim has never been successful. There has always been a territorial, mean-spirited approach within the county and this is very well reflected by the administrators.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 02:50:46 PM
I see that the Antrim webshite has stopped posting messages in Irish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 08, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: Teachtaire on April 08, 2009, 02:09:45 PM
If what you say is true then that makes it all the more frustrating - a dictatorship. "Think what I think and if you don't, then, tough, I will take your right to comment away."

However, JMcS is an educated man. The comments on the Antrim site seem to come from some sort of narrow minded, self-important person/persons who appear to be interested in their little bit of power. Surely, they cannot be the thoughts of an educated man.

In fact, the attitude reflected in these responses illustrate a key reason why Antrim has never been successful. There has always been a territorial, mean-spirited approach within the county and this is very well reflected by the administrators.


Teachtaire the site is manned by a number of the county officials, predominately by the county secretary and others in a more diminished capacity or should i say responsibility!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2009, 07:51:14 PM
The guestbook on the county site is simply a forum for some of the county lickspittles to attempt to convince us that everything is rosy in the garden. Even the most constructive criticism is immediately shot down as being "anti-Antrim". How can you progress if you can't open your eyes and see where improvements are required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 08, 2009, 11:59:22 PM
CJ on what Panel? The hurling panel or the football panel again?  Absolute joke if you ask me, I would not let him near any panel in the county.The same goes for that brother of his also.  I would keep him away from all football panels.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 09, 2009, 08:42:05 AM
He did train with the hurlers earlier in the week. Milltown was right.

Another new low for this administration!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2009, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 09, 2009, 08:42:05 AM
He did train with the hurlers earlier in the week. Milltown was right.

Another new low for this administration!

I cant understand it, have the Mc Gourty boys got photos of Sambo & Woody ? Did "Shaws Road" ever even make a squad last year when he joined the hurlers. Is there some edict that they have to be on an inter county panel, regardless of code? Very good footballer, not even close to the standard required for the hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 09, 2009, 08:53:30 AM
What statement does that make to Bradley! Sambo must be drinking some of those cheap kegs he,s been flogging around the country. MR might scuttle your plans for the comming season, mangers dilemma? Oh how the mighty fall....... Needs to retain his energise money somewhere after all, maybe he,s split it with sambo?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 09, 2009, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 09, 2009, 08:53:30 AM
What statement does that make to Bradley! Sambo must be drinking some of those cheap kegs he,s been flogging around the country. MR might scuttle your plans for the comming season, mangers dilemma? Oh how the mighty fall....... Needs to retain his energise money somewhere after all, maybe he,s split it with sambo?
wot cheap kegs has Sambo been selling? Thought there was 2 managers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 09, 2009, 09:23:04 AM
By the looks of things and I am only a novice here, that Miltown boyo, I dont think could be right about anything. Sort of boy who would believe his own press and attempt to convince others.

McGourtys are th classical Antrim style wimps (is their father from Cork maybe!).  Miltown, are you their mentor by any chance?   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 09, 2009, 10:33:45 AM
sambo told me last yr there was no risk on taking mcgourty on because he wasn't gonna act the dick or the big fella on the panel because who was he to act up in front of established players like karl, paddy richmond etc,

if cj is on the panel he, like his brother will know he isnt top dog and go about full of his own importance. as far as I know kevin never said a bad word to anyone on the panel, and still didnt make it. no harm was done with this experiment. I would guess this will be the same. I dont see what all the fuss is about. if it works, it works, if it doesnt, dry your eyes lads and get on with it.

AND SAMBO DOESNT SELL KEGS!! ITS A PUB NEXT DOOR TO THE ONE HE IS LEASING OUT THAT SELLS THEM. END OF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on April 09, 2009, 10:47:37 AM
It doesn't say much for the Antrim management if they take on board a fella who has been kicked off the football panel for disciplinary reasons.  What does it say for the ship that the great Sambo and Woody run?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2009, 10:59:06 AM
What does it say about the panel Sambo & Woody have assembled if they see the need for these "experiments" ? You would think after 3 years they would have a reasonably settled first XV at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 09, 2009, 11:29:49 AM
I think its says S&W must wait until Bradley picks his panel before they pick theirs. Also i heard Cj has to hand in his phone into S&W anynight before he goes out on piss. Except when the hurling panel are out together on the piss with S&W
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 09, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
Ah, now, now now, JamesH, a little below the belt and quite synical dont you think?  By the way, where did Sambo get that BIG RED nose from anyway? 

On another note. Any good referees coming to the forein Antrim.  God knows, we could sure do with some new referees as our current bunch dont seem to be making much headway at National level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2009, 05:19:08 PM
Just noticed this on the Official Antrim website, i take it it is in reference to my post at the top of this page, so lads own up who is trying to get me in trouble with the SS/Antrim moderators? Check out the highlighted bit in the reply........Crafty or what? I would love to smoke whatever they are smoking.

Name : Saucer 09 April 2009

Does ???? have incriminating photos ???

You're another one of these gullible and gutless "pseudo-experts" who likes to anonynmously demonise individuals. You might manage to do this on other sites polluted by such bile and poison by individuals of your ilk, who have nothing and never did have anything positive to contribute to this county. And despite the fact that you and others berate this website and complain about censorship, we are amazed that you persist in your attempts to post this bile here. When are you lot going to realise that anonymous contributions to guestbooks/discussion boards etc are never, never going to serve any purpose whatsoever? That's what club meetings, county meetings and Conventions are for and no right-"mind"ed individual will ever pay any heed to suggestions or ideas promoted by those who refuse to reveal their identity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 09, 2009, 06:33:45 PM
guys ya have me all wrong, i never once mentioned the said player being on the antrim panel. now that he is training away with the squad then thats good news for Naomh Gall, CJ has already picked up an All Ireland colleges medal this year, albeit at c grade.

i'd asked the question days ago, with Antrim stuttering along getting beat by Carlow (cause players were in the Bot!!) drawing with Westmeath and the close game with Kerry, is there other players out there that could come into the squad?

colonel has said no harm in trying and if he works out and we beat Dublin the it will be a master stroke.

glad schools out for Easter, there will be no telling tales in the La Salle school about "d*ckheads" on the Board

i see some of the "others" are back on board ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 09, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
I see there appears to be quite a lot of soccer infulence in this forum.  You are on the wrong type of forum fellas! Have you tried maybe Linfield or Cliftonville.  Looking at some of the sinister an historical ill informed postings, in my view you would be better placed there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 09, 2009, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 09, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
Ah, now, now now, JamesH, a little below the belt and quite synical dont you think?  By the way, where did Sambo get that BIG RED nose from anyway? 

On another note. Any good referees coming to the forein Antrim.  God knows, we could sure do with some new referees as our current bunch dont seem to be making much headway at National level.

Well said, i think MR should take up the batton! What about it MR!!! Management does,nt suit you, you would have had to have played at a higher level, some of the panel may not take you serious, a few pints bought in the club, wont protect u from the MC Gourty/Stewart backlash in the half time huddle....... SAS been a fan for long? Easy pop at  our lads, be careful MR was exposed in the past who knows whats ahead for you!!!!!!!!!! Use spell check when you get the chance, not wishing to come across as the teaching sort mind u?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 09, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on February 21, 2009, 06:57:56 AM
A relative of the x-st johns manager abused a referee at a competition allegedly, and when asked gave his name as the x-st johns manager- bad move! Then croker asked the named aggressor to appear? x- st johns manger would,nt appear obviously as he was not involved- relative was told to do so and tell the real story, he supposedly then sent down a clone! The ref happened to be at the meeting and said " your not the lad i dealt with etc etc"- Croker then issued the club at Ibrox an ultimatum- people fall out, threats etc etc etc and now you have the present situation.................. Hope that sheds a bit of light on the case lads.

works both ways Tit ::) ::)

what level did you play at TDK?

i think your a stalker i'll have to watch my back........side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 09, 2009, 08:05:32 PM
AHHHHHHHH! Struck a nerve MR? Don,t take it personally, you could end up the S&W of the leagues.............. No room left on the shelf at my house, i will watch your progress with interest, maybe i might even end up refereeing one of your games, who knows?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 09, 2009, 08:16:22 PM
you did TDK, think i'll call it a day  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 10, 2009, 08:13:33 AM
NHL: Offaly v Antrim - Live on TG410 April 2009
The final round of the NHL Division 2 match between Offaly and Antrim will be shown live on TG4 at 2.30pm from Tullamore.

Antrim leagues start this weekend.
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Ballygalget  Cushendall  Ballygalget 11/04/2009 14:30 Ray Matthews   
Ballycastle  Ballycran  Ballycastle 12/04/2009 14:30 McAuley Liam   
Dunloy  Portaferry  Dunloy 12/04/2009 19:00 Duffy Garrett   
St. Johns  Loughgiel  Corrigan Park 15/04/2009 19:00 Torney Hugh 

Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Gaeil Chluana  Gort Na Mona  Ahoghill 15/04/2009 19:00 Coulter Conal   
Shane O Neills  St. Galls  Shane ONeills 15/04/2009 19:00 Elliott Owen   
St. Pauls  Tir na Nog  St. Pauls 15/04/2009 19:00 Mc Caffery Pat   
Rossa  Glenariff  Rossa 15/04/2009 19:00 McIntyre Tommy 

Some good matches in Division 1. Big match in Div 2 between Rossa & Glenariffe. Both teams will want to get off to a good start in that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
i wonder will our game go ahead with Glenarm this wed night, county players have a game against Offaly on the Sunday and Naomh Gall need them on the wed night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 10, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
althought i dont want to go about it, i think CJ is on the training panel. Not the panel for the national league or championship. guys like conor carson, seamus dobbin, shannon from rossa and a couple more were added to help bring up the numbers as they might be required in the future, not neccessarely (sp) now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 04:23:19 PM
i reckon your wrong.

will the Johnnies beat Rossa this year? after Sundays performance in the football i take it the dual players of last year are sticking to hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 10, 2009, 03:54:28 PM
I reckon Milltown row is a McGourty! Just cant say out of it yas c**ts
Groundie, your'e wrong, Miltown Row would not have the big enough cahoney's to be a McGourty!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 10, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: groundlie on April 10, 2009, 03:54:28 PM
I reckon Milltown row is a McGourty! Just cant say out of it yas c**ts
Groundie, your'e wrong, Miltown Row would not have the big enough cahoney's to be a McGourty!

You should definitely start to use the spell check Linger! You a teacher and all that :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
my stalkers are back ;D

more craic from the "others"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 10, 2009, 06:08:04 PM
In fairness Milltown you should be flattered, they seen to have sent some of their brightest minds to try and wind you up. . . . . . Its good to see the lads that are being handsomely remunerated to run our County are using their time so constructively.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 10, 2009, 07:26:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 10, 2009, 06:08:04 PM
In fairness Milltown you should be flattered, they seen to have sent some of their brightest minds to try and wind you up. . . . . . Its good to see the lads that are being handsomely remunerated to run our County are using their time so constructively.

Ah Minder, this playground is big enough for us all to play in! Some of you lads that seem to have tooooo much time on your hands between classes think the playground belongs to you..... There are child protection rules now, or have you not had enough baker days to pass that course? Eh MR? Man cannot live on Bread alone..... Time you started to pick on us referees again, the site is going a bit stale!

I'm just dying to see MR fall flat on his ass in his new role this year, Management!!!!!! See how his tactics and lack of personal playing experience at a reasonable level fail him in the crunch..... You know what the say about small man syndrome......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 10, 2009, 06:08:04 PM
In fairness Milltown you should be flattered, they seen to have sent some of their brightest minds to try and wind you up. . . . . . Its good to see the lads that are being handsomely remunerated to run our County are using their time so constructively.

Coining it in, sure am.  I will be driving to North Antrim in my new Ferrari soon.  Cant wait to get my hands on Gregory's millions! Whoopee!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
my stalkers are back ;D

more craic from the "others"

Don't flatter yourself pal!  Your insignificance is well renowned in GAA circles.  TDK, 'a teacher' no way chum, I am more intelligent than that and more productive also.  Who are you TDK, one of Sambo henchmen or something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 10, 2009, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
my stalkers are back ;D

more craic from the "others"

Don't flatter yourself pal!  Your insignificance is well renowned in GAA circles.  TDK, 'a teacher' no way chum, I am more intelligent than that and more productive also.  Who are you TDK, one of Sambo henchmen or something?

An Allie at last SAS, my apologies for putting you in the same box as MR and Minder! Sambos henchmen catch a grip! A referee who's out to keep a close eye on MR and his management career with the GALLS !!!!!! Pay Back time!!! Us referees are now on to him at last,and we know what he needs for the season, a bit of TLC from the boys he hammered on this site for donkeys!!! Looking forward to it, it will be a long season....... FOR HIM? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 10:05:56 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2009, 12:25:57 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 10, 2009, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 10, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 10, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
my stalkers are back ;D

more craic from the "others"

Don't flatter yourself pal!  Your insignificance is well renowned in GAA circles.  TDK, 'a teacher' no way chum, I am more intelligent than that and more productive also.  Who are you TDK, one of Sambo henchmen or something?

An Allie at last SAS, my apologies for putting you in the same box as MR and Minder! Sambos henchmen catch a grip! A referee who's out to keep a close eye on MR and his management career with the GALLS !!!!!! Pay Back time!!! Us referees are now on to him at last,and we know what he needs for the season, a bit of TLC from the boys he hammered on this site for donkeys!!! Looking forward to it, it will be a long season....... FOR HIM? ;)

Who ever said that referees apply the rules impartially?  ::)




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 11, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
Apparently they weren't getting on. shame really as Micko on his day can hurl.  Lamhs will be concentrating on getting out of the lower leagues this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 11, 2009, 08:32:56 PM
So Heron gone now also.  No bad thing if you ask me.  McGourtys and Herons demise within both codes in Antrim is a positive step.  Our county can do without the self elevated Prima Donnas.  We have had them before and thankfully routed them out.  A pity them same principals regarding Prima Donnas could not be applied here.  A few of the hero members - self appointed site marshalls, IMO, could be weeded out also. Their dictatorial, self righteous contributions should be a warning to all  on this forum, that we all should cover our backs.  You really don't know who you are talking to on here and what can be carried back to influential individuals in positions of power.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 11, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
By the way TDK, who ever you are.  I think it is a little presumptious of you to suggest that you have found an Ally in me.  I am my own man pal, can fight my own corners and will stand by any contributions or comments I choose to submit here.  Upwards and onwards!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 11, 2009, 11:31:33 PM
I see the scum***S from GNM & LD have been at their work again.  It's really ironic that TR, a club official and an alledged referee was up to his usual antics. But sure, the big ball game attracts such undesirable individuals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 13, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
   
Ballycastle 0-9 v 1-14 Ballycran   
Dunloy 2-15 v 1-13 Portaferry
Ballygalget 0-10 v 1-14 Cushendall      

Antrim Reserve Hurling
   
Dunloy 0-13 v 1-15 Portaferry
      
Antrim Div 3 Hurling
   
Carey Faughs 2-10 v 3-17 Lamh Dhearg   
St. Brigids 2-20 v 1-5 St. Teresas

More games to come Wednesday.  Ballycran wasting no time getting back into the swing of Div 1 after last years rout in Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 13, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 13, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
   
Ballycastle 0-9 v 1-14 Ballycran   
Dunloy 2-15 v 1-13 Portaferry
Ballygalget 0-10 v 1-14 Cushendall      

Antrim Reserve Hurling
   
Dunloy 0-13 v 1-15 Portaferry
      
Antrim Div 3 Hurling
   
Carey Faughs 2-10 v 3-17 Lamh Dhearg   
St. Brigids 2-20 v 1-5 St. Teresas

More games to come Wednesday.  Ballycran wasting no time getting back into the swing of Div 1 after last years rout in Div 2.
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I took the easter eggs and when up to the ballycastle game yesterday. the towns reserves were hammered in the first game.
In the senior game the town were totally over powered in every area of the pitch, ballycran could and should won by more, they seemed very composted on the ball and played to a plan.
There were 4/5 different fellas taking and missing scoreable frees for the town, this unsettled them, they should settle on one man, pinky or mc auley IMO. Interesting they played mc auley in midfield were he was able to watch balls going over his head, a waste, he should be under the dropping ball. Pinky at centre forward under a puck out seemed pointless but the management didnt change tact, pinky got a nasty slap to the hand and may have broke fingers, his hand looked heavily bandaged. cossie dallas deserves mention as the town only player on the day, making strong runs at wing half. The ref offered little protection and seemed to have a poor understanding of the rules, but take nothing away from ballycran they very played well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 13, 2009, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 11, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
Apparently they weren't getting on. shame really as Micko on his day can hurl.  Lamhs will be concentrating on getting out of the lower leagues this year
Micko Herron is one of only two natural half forwards we have ( Karl Stewart) being the other who can catch puck outs ( sometimes ) and take a score. I know it is getting tedious but the amount of experienced players who have had fall outs/ left the current Antrim set up is unreal. Off the top of my head DD Quinn, Barney McAuley, Winker, Herron and Martin Scullion are all in their twenties and of county stamdard yet are not involved. I do not know what the story is with Kevin Elliott ( he may be over 30 been around a long time ) but he is definitly of county standard too. If the sign of good management is getting the best from limited resources then we are not managing it  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 13, 2009, 08:05:26 PM
very difficult managing all those egos i would imagine. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 13, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
Interesting game for GNM next Saturday evening in the Ulster Hurling League.  GNM v Carrickmore, one worth the watching indeed.  Some recent history with these two and GNM have some scores to settle!  I hope they behave themselves! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 13, 2009, 10:02:59 PM
That's a fair trimming Ballycastle received at home. Eight points is a comfortable win for Ballycran. Thought the "town" would be a wee bit better considering they won the u 21 a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
lads i'm looking the road Shane O'Neills pict is on up in Feystown.

cheers in advance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 14, 2009, 12:32:15 PM

I think things are not well in the Town. after the match the manager wee Olcan  quit at the lack of effort from the boys , Training etc, Poor numbers , no commitment , to be honest a lack of quality hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on April 14, 2009, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
lads i'm looking the road Shane O'Neills pict is on up in Feystown.

cheers in advance.

I know this sounds like a smart arse response - but it's not - it's on the Feystown Road
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2009, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on April 14, 2009, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
lads i'm looking the road Shane O'Neills pict is on up in Feystown.

cheers in advance.

I know this sounds like a smart arse response - but it's not - it's on the Feystown Road
I'm sure Feystown is signposted from the coast road on the Larne side of Glenarm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 02:30:38 PM
cheers craigyhill terror. i can turn off at Millbrook Cairncastle cant i? that will take me also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on April 14, 2009, 02:38:56 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 02:30:38 PM
cheers craigyhill terror. i can turn off at Millbrook Cairncastle cant i? that will take me also

Yep, Millbrook is the handiest if you're coming from Belfast. Just follow the signs for Cairncastle and, when you get there, there's a sign for Feystown that takes you on a road to the left from the middle of the village. It's basically a straight run from there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 14, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 14, 2009, 12:32:15 PM

I think things are not well in the Town. after the match the manager wee Olcan  quit at the lack of effort from the boys , Training etc, Poor numbers , no commitment , to be honest a lack of quality hurlers.

Did he leave? That must be shortest term of management in history. The town had a fair bit of trouble getting a manager this year. From what I heard nander campbell went for the position with a sound plan and he would brought joe cassidy and oran kearney (cpc managers) with him, But he asked for some financial support from to club to get his plan of the ground but was told were to go.
I disagree with you saying there is a lack of quality hurlers, The town dont play well as a team (management issue) and some lads are a bit to nice couldnt or dont know how to play a dirty stroke, which is needed sometimes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Youngfella why would Nander Campbell need "financial support"? By this do you mean he wanted paid to take them? If so they did right to hunt him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 14, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
AHHHHHH MR, The mighty Owen Elliott(Probably Antrims best referee) tomorrow night, Uhhhhh i wonder did you have a go at him in the past? Better watch your P,s & Q,s with that lad....... Would,nt want your (career) to start with a BANG! now would we....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2009, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Youngfella why would Nander Campbell need "financial support"? By this do you mean he wanted paid to take them? If so they did right to hunt him.
I'd say if he wanted to bring in his mates from the school then he'd have wanted "financial support" alright. There is a bit of a difference telling schoolboys what to do and telling grown men what to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 15, 2009, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
lads i'm looking the road Shane O'Neills pict is on up in Feystown.

cheers in advance.

Imagine, the guy who knows everything about everything not knowing his way to Feystown!  Hi MR, r u from the top of the row or the bottom, Rossa or St. Galls? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 15, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 14, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
AHHHHHH MR, The mighty Owen Elliott(Probably Antrims best referee) tomorrow night, Uhhhhh i wonder did you have a go at him in the past? Better watch your P,s & Q,s with that lad....... Would,nt want your (career) to start with a BANG! now would we....

Owen Elliot (Probably the best referee in Antrim)  you must be joking, wise up would ya!  No way pal.  Ray Mathews and Liam McAuley in my humble opinion are the best two referees in Antrim.  I have watched both these guys and I can honestly say they are probably the best in Ulster.  Elliot, Devlin, Duffy and Magee are way off the mark.  A real pity Tommy Mc is getting on a bit and likely to bow out soon.  McAuley and Mathews have the same refereeing style as Tommy and generally let the game flow.  I have been very impressed with them both.

A bit of a worry though, that no new faces are breaking through.  The County need to be looking at new young referees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 15, 2009, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 14, 2009, 10:21:46 AM
lads i'm looking the road Shane O'Neills pict is on up in Feystown.

cheers in advance.

U get sorted ok with the directions up to our field the other lads have posted milltown?  if not gimme a shout, i'll be online on/off most of the day. 

Pitch was ok last night for our NA junior match, abit soft on it, so it should be a good oul mucky affair later now that the rain has been on all morning!

Welcome to Feystown!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 15, 2009, 08:40:01 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 15, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 14, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
AHHHHHH MR, The mighty Owen Elliott(Probably Antrims best referee) tomorrow night, Uhhhhh i wonder did you have a go at him in the past? Better watch your P,s & Q,s with that lad....... Would,nt want your (career) to start with a BANG! now would we....

Owen Elliot (Probably the best referee in Antrim)  you must be joking, wise up would ya!  No way pal.  Ray Mathews and Liam McAuley in my humble opinion are the best two referees in Antrim.  I have watched both these guys and I can honestly say they are probably the best in Ulster.  Elliot, Devlin, Duffy and Magee are way off the mark.  A real pity Tommy Mc is getting on a bit and likely to bow out soon.  McAuley and Mathews have the same refereeing style as Tommy and generally let the game flow.  I have been very impressed with them both.

A bit of a worry though, that no new faces are breaking through.  The County need to be looking at new young referees.

Would agree with you partly on that Linger, Herbie (Liam MC auley) great lad, sound as a pound. The other boy is full of his own importance, its all about Him! 2 faced back stabber, would sell his soul to get a leg up! Travesty if he gets further than Herbie, Elliott has had a lot of postings this year, good lad think your wrong on that one, Duffy? hard to know, got a lot of finals last year?.... Devlin and Magee yes, spent force... Love to see Herbie get a chance, its good to see genuine people get an opportunity, hope he gets the county final this year, would like to see how he gets on....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 15, 2009, 09:23:45 AM
Quote from: youngfella on April 14, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 14, 2009, 12:32:15 PM

I think things are not well in the Town. after the match the manager wee Olcan  quit at the lack of effort from the boys , Training etc, Poor numbers , no commitment , to be honest a lack of quality hurlers.

Did he leave? That must be shortest term of management in history. The town had a fair bit of trouble getting a manager this year. From what I heard nander campbell went for the position with a sound plan and he would brought joe cassidy and oran kearney (cpc managers) with him, But he asked for some financial support from to club to get his plan of the ground but was told were to go.
I disagree with you saying there is a lack of quality hurlers, The town dont play well as a team (management issue) and some lads are a bit to nice couldnt or dont know how to play a dirty stroke, which is needed sometimes.

I think Ballycastle did right by knocking back the wages for Butch n' Sundance, not bad fellas on the face of it but fairly typical of their peers....selfish, money grabbing etc etc. How in hells name would B'castle need to pay for coaching??
There definitely is motivation and team play problems and the usual yelling and bawling from the line will never sort that out.
And as for "how to play a dirty stroke", what are you smoking??? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 15, 2009, 09:59:12 AM
Ballycastle have certainly lost a bit of a 'physical edge' since they lost players like the Maybins, Terence Kinney etc but they have some decent hurlers, problem seems to be they keep losing their best players or they continue to play but don't seem to adopt an 'athletic lifestyle'

Ryan Donnelly and Septhen McGarry where both fine young players and had they hit the hieghts their talent suggested it could have made a big difference.  But the town still have a decent team and when on form can cause a shock or too

Dunloy beat Portaferry on Sunday, both teams played much better against a strong wind, Portaferrys workrate in the first half was savage and Dunloy were lucky to be leading by a point having played with a strong wind.  Paul Braniff was excellent at times in the first half and has added a real physical presence to his sublime skills.

Dunloy played much better in second half and got the breaks at important times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 15, 2009, 01:24:17 PM
The Dall seniors had a handy enough win against our lads on saturday, 7 points or so in the end.

We just didn't have enough firepower up the park to bother their defense. when we did look to trouble them they were able to get the scores up the other end to keep the margin comfortable.

On a positive note for us we'd a young lad of 17 in the corner forward berth who took some nice scores from play but was starved of the ball for a greater part of the game as our half forwards didn't function at all which will be a major concern for us. Stickwork for us was poor

I'd also say they were missing half a dozen of their starting line-up if not more from their AI semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 15, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Youngfella why would Nander Campbell need "financial support"? By this do you mean he wanted paid to take them? If so they did right to hunt him.

You have me wrong. nander and co didnt want paying, from what i heard he wanted to bring in an outside coach to the take the training every other week or too stop things from get boring and routine. He simply wanted the coach to be looked after a bit by the club. I think also wanted the club to provide sandwiches and soup for the lads after training.  Not really a big ask, just looking after the lads.


Quote from: maxpower on April 15, 2009, 09:59:12 AM
Ballycastle have certainly lost a bit of a 'physical edge' since they lost players like the Maybins, Terence Kinney etc but they have some decent hurlers, problem seems to be they keep losing their best players or they continue to play but don't seem to adopt an 'athletic lifestyle'

Ryan Donnelly and Septhen McGarry where both fine young players and had they hit the hieghts their talent suggested it could have made a big difference.  But the town still have a decent team and when on form can cause a shock or too

I agree they miss someone with kind of fight that the maybins took to the game a bit of anger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 15, 2009, 03:09:58 PM
Get the lads to pay a £1 per session, that would cover a few cans of soup and loaves of bread. It might also go towards a weekend away for the team which the club might put the rest to. Cant see the need for bringing in other coaches to ease the boredom?? Would've thought between the 3 of those fellas, they could run a good session.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 15, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 15, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Youngfella why would Nander Campbell need "financial support"? By this do you mean he wanted paid to take them? If so they did right to hunt him.

You have me wrong. nander and co didnt want paying, from what i heard he wanted to bring in an outside coach to the take the training every other week or too stop things from get boring and routine. He simply wanted the coach to be looked after a bit by the club. I think also wanted the club to provide sandwiches and soup for the lads after training.  Not really a big ask, just looking after the lads.


Quote from: maxpower on April 15, 2009, 09:59:12 AM
Ballycastle have certainly lost a bit of a 'physical edge' since they lost players like the Maybins, Terence Kinney etc but they have some decent hurlers, problem seems to be they keep losing their best players or they continue to play but don't seem to adopt an 'athletic lifestyle'

Ryan Donnelly and Septhen McGarry where both fine young players and had they hit the hieghts their talent suggested it could have made a big difference.  But the town still have a decent team and when on form can cause a shock or too

I agree they miss someone with kind of fight that the maybins took to the game a bit of anger.
Surely the players would benefit more from a sustained buildup in their training regime to get reach their peak after a few months. How do this work if you are rotating coaches every few weeks, all bringing their own style and drills, some of which may counteract work done previously.

Sounds like a lot of shit to me and Nander etc. had lined up a few mates for a jolly boys outing every fortnight. As most others posters have indicated, the trick to the Town making any inroads is to keep the players on the training ground and out of the pub. People have been saying that for about 20 years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 15, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2009, 08:41:57 PM
Rossa 1-12
Glenariffe 3-09

One that Rossa threw away. Leading 1-08 to 0-02 after about 20 minutes. Hit about 10 soft wides in that time too. Then stopped and Glenariffe came into it.
Jim Connolly sent off for a stupid pull across Glenariffe defender, near the end. Nothing between the ears just.

That was about the height of it, once Gettens started to get to grips with Hamill Rossa dont have too many others to help with the scoring. Connollys pull was daft, you could see it coming a mile off and right in front of Tommy Mc Intyre. We had about 5 fellas dropped for beig pissed at the weekend but all came on at some stage. Seamy Doherty/Mc Donnell made a big difference when he came on. Kettle did rightly on Tosh but he still ended up with about 1-5. Good win when it looked like a heavy defeat in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 15, 2009, 10:00:58 PM
i wouldnt be too sure about the whole ballycastle thing. i thought nander had already turned down the job before hand. the other two would have enough on their plates with managing bellaghy/ playing for linfield along with all the school activities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:32:12 PM
don't think that the Johnnies game went ahead. i see the gorts game wasn't played also..

Hardstation i thought the Rossa were going strong, Jim got a straight red? obviously Glenariffe were holding back in the UHL game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 15, 2009, 11:51:21 PM
Closey is injured, seen him at our pitch (broken foot) wee rocky back playing? not in england?  aye we played them the other year, winning first half but they came back at us. your leaking goals also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 16, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
Was it cold enough for ye in Feystown last night Milltown?  Jeez but we were brutal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 16, 2009, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: girt_giggler on April 16, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
Was it cold enough for ye in Feystown last night Milltown?  Jeez but we were brutal!

Miltown must have come across Google Earth or someone bought him a Sat Nav.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 16, 2009, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on April 16, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
Was it cold enough for ye in Feystown last night Milltown?  Jeez but we were brutal!

thought you were alright. the wind was serious and blowing down the pitch. had yas won the toss could have been a different result. Darren Hamill is a quality player and your wee corner back in the first half was a goodin.

thought yous went for goals way to early. had ya knocked over 7/8 points (easily given i thought ;)) the game could have ended up a lot tighter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 11:12:40 AM


Antrim hurlers have several injury worries ahead of their vital promotion battle against Offaly at Tullamore.

Midfielder Paul Shiels has been ruled out for several weeks with a groin injury while Johnny Campbell is rated very doubtful with a hamstring injury.

Karl McKeegan (back), Paddy Richmond (back) and Kieran Kelly (hand) are struggling to be fit for the Saffrons.

Campbell, McKeegan and Kelly have been named in the starting line-up but they may not play in the fixture.



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Antrim NHL: C O'Connell; C McGourty, C Donnelly, A Graffin; C Herron, J Campbell, K McKeegan; B Herron, PJ O'Connell; S Delargy, N McManus, K Stewart; J Scullion, K Kelly, S McNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 17, 2009, 11:55:11 AM
 Campell, Mc Keegan, and Kelly have no chance of playing. We are depleted this weekend no doubt, the Doc's at congress so imagine the injured lads getting a jab from him come Sunday after 3 days on the piss. Their could be room for Paddy Doc , although mabye John a better option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
this is a bigger match than the Dublin game IMO. we need to win and get a run out in Croke park in the div 2 final. would set us nicely for the Dublin game.

shame about the injuries but gives opportunities for the rest.

Offaly are physically bigger than us right up the middle with only McManus of the same stature
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 17, 2009, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
this is a bigger match than the Dublin game IMO. we need to win and get a run out in Croke park in the div 2 final. would set us nicely for the Dublin game.

shame about the injuries but gives opportunities for the rest.

Offaly are physically bigger than us right up the middle with only McManus of the same stature

MR..the Division 2 final is in Thurles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
your right two hands,

Colonel i'm sure everyone thought that Dublin would be getting stuffed in every game, they were a drawn game away from a final!! one more year getting pushed by westmeath Carlow!! and Kerry will do nothing for development. leagues are for winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:28:04 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:24:39 PM
your right two hands,

Colonel i'm sure everyone thought that Dublin would be getting stuffed in every game, they were a drawn game away from a final!! one more year getting pushed by westmeath Carlow!! and Kerry will do nothing for development. leagues are for winning.

Do you think we would push Tipp, Limerick and beat Galway the way Dublin have ? You could see Dublin progressing, especially with their U-21's progress. We aint shown s*it, as the man said.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

so by that thinking Glenariffe Naomh gall Gorts Rossa and some of the other teams in div 2 should all stay in that league because it's competitive? only by playing the top teams can you really develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 17, 2009, 01:32:05 PM
MR I didnt think Dublin would get hammered in the league.(although it could happen this weekend)  They've done well in the league in the year or so & especially with Daly on board I kind of expected them to push on. Last couple of years they should have beaten Wexford(especially last year) & ran Cork very close in the championship down there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

so by that thinking Glenariffe Naomh gall Gorts Rossa and some of the other teams in div 2 should all stay in that league because it's competitive? only by playing the top teams can you really develop.

How have we developed in Div 1 this last umpteen years? You dont simply "develop" by playing against better players, you have to have improved coaching structures in your own club thus improving the standard of player thus sending a better standard of player to represent the county.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 02:31:39 PM
i really can't see the benefits of being in division 1 until we have a strong enough squad to cope with that standard of hurling. Division 2 will give us another year of tough games in which we should be in a strong position to compete in division 1 in 2011.

boys like mcmanus, graffin, hippy, shiels etc will still only be 23 by that stage. apart from delargy, the 2 mcgarry's, 2 younger herrons, (maybe even the black eye'd broken armed wonder) and a couple more who else would still be about in 2011.
Title: reply
Post by: SASLinger on April 17, 2009, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

so by that thinking Glenariffe Naomh gall Gorts Rossa and some of the other teams in div 2 should all stay in that league because it's competitive? only by playing the top teams can you really develop.

How have we developed in Div 1 this last umpteen years? You dont simply "develop" by playing against better players, you have to have improved coaching structures in your own club thus improving the standard of player thus sending a better standard of player to represent the county.  ;)

I could'nt agree more Minder.  Now your on the right track, it will depend solely on the quality ond the physique of players we have available at club level and the standard of hurling being played in the county leagues.  Antrim should laways aspire to play at the top level, despite the frequent hammerings we get.  It is by playing at the top level that we will see how far off the mark we are.  Playing another year in Division 2, does not guarantee we will come through next year, especially with Clare dropping down to the same Division.  Get rid of the dead wood coaches, managers and mentors in the county and bring in people who know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 17, 2009, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

so by that thinking Glenariffe Naomh gall Gorts Rossa and some of the other teams in div 2 should all stay in that league because it's competitive? only by playing the top teams can you really develop.

How have we developed in Div 1 this last umpteen years? You dont simply "develop" by playing against better players, you have to have improved coaching structures in your own club thus improving the standard of player thus sending a better standard of player to represent the county.  ;)

I could'nt agree more Minder.  Now your on the right track, it will depend solely on the quality ond the physique of players we have available at club level and the standard of hurling being played in the county leagues.  Antrim should laways aspire to play at the top level, despite the frequent hammerings we get.  It is by playing at the top level that we will see how far off the mark we are.  Playing another year in Division 2, does not guarantee we will come through next year, especially with Clare dropping down to the same Division.  Get rid of the dead wood coaches, managers and mentors in the county and bring in people who know!

What utopian GAA world do you live in SAS? Definately correct about the proper development through underage, but to think there is this long list of willing talented coaches scratching their cahoonas waiting to be asked before they get involved is delusioned. Too many potentially good talented coaches watching sky or playing golf in this county. What happened to giving something back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 18, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
i've said before its the hardest job in the world. most coaches are out three times a week and it has a self life of around 4/5 years before you lose faith. i did it with my club for 6/7 years felt i wasn't making any inroads at all. kids leaving for other clubs, poor investment and constant struggle to put teams out. things have turned round though lately and success although at b level, is bearing fruit.

hit the primary schools at p3/4 level that were the interest is started
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on April 18, 2009, 01:17:15 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

And i suppose Carlow will just be a pushover of course! They weren't the only team in div 2 so far to actually beat Antrim or anything were they?!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
What price are Antrim tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 18, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 18, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
What price are Antrim tomorrow?

Minder,

Antrim are at 4-1 and Offaly at 1-5 to win on paddypower.com. Dunno how much thought has gone into those odds by Mr Power as, in the first to score a goal betting, he has M Pollock at 8-1, followed by D Edwards, P Cunningham and some more footballers!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2009, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 17, 2009, 09:01:55 PM
I could'nt agree more Minder.  Now your on the right track, it will depend solely on the quality ond the physique of players we have available at club level and the standard of hurling being played in the county leagues.  Antrim should laways aspire to play at the top level, despite the frequent hammerings we get.  It is by playing at the top level that we will see how far off the mark we are.  Playing another year in Division 2, does not guarantee we will come through next year, especially with Clare dropping down to the same Division.  Get rid of the dead wood coaches, managers and mentors in the county and bring in people who know!

What utopian GAA world do you live in SAS? Definately correct about the proper development through underage, but to think there is this long list of willing talented coaches scratching their cahoonas waiting to be asked before they get involved is delusioned. Too many potentially good talented coaches watching sky or playing golf in this county. What happened to giving something back?

SAS. You could have just agreed with me rather than deleting it? I can be magnaminous about these things  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 17, 2009, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on April 17, 2009, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
i dont think it would do any good for antrim to get promoted to be honest, they would be better staying in division 2 for at least 1 more year. will get nothing from getting hammered every game.

Agree with that Colonel, we wouldnt be competitive in Div 1. Say for arguments sake Offaly went up, you would have Clare, Antrim, Wexford providing competitive games, not to mention Westmeath if they got their finger out.

so by that thinking Glenariffe Naomh gall Gorts Rossa and some of the other teams in div 2 should all stay in that league because it's competitive? only by playing the top teams can you really develop.

How have we developed in Div 1 this last umpteen years? You dont simply "develop" by playing against better players, you have to have improved coaching structures in your own club thus improving the standard of player thus sending a better standard of player to represent the county.  ;)

I could'nt agree more Minder.  Now your on the right track, it will depend solely on the quality ond the physique of players we have available at club level and the standard of hurling being played in the county leagues.  Antrim should laways aspire to play at the top level, despite the frequent hammerings we get.  It is by playing at the top level that we will see how far off the mark we are.  Playing another year in Division 2, does not guarantee we will come through next year, especially with Clare dropping down to the same Division.  Get rid of the dead wood coaches, managers and mentors in the county and bring in people who know!

What utopian GAA world do you live in SAS? Definately correct about the proper development through underage, but to think there is this long list of willing talented coaches scratching their cahoonas waiting to be asked before they get involved is delusioned. Too many potentially good talented coaches watching sky or playing golf in this county. What happened to giving something back?

Who was talking about coaches or mentors in Antrim Mr. Know it all.  Seeing you are so vociferous on this froum and give the impression that you have the knowledge, skills and ability to do better than the past or current incumbents, why dont you put your name in the hat and take on board the the continuos ridicule and critisisms!  Put up or shut up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 19, 2009, 12:56:42 AM
what are you talking about??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 19, 2009, 11:35:38 AM

i dont think he ever had 'a plot'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 19, 2009, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 18, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 18, 2009, 03:54:26 PM
What price are Antrim tomorrow?

Minder,

Antrim are at 4-1 and Offaly at 1-5 to win on paddypower.com. Dunno how much thought has gone into those odds by Mr Power as, in the first to score a goal betting, he has M Pollock at 8-1, followed by D Edwards, P Cunningham and some more footballers!!!

just seen that on paddy power, brilliant. my money is on Gallagher, quality hurler and at a good price 16/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
Not loking great at the minute, goal before half time put the tin lid on things, overall Offally can take points from 60-70 yards wheras we need to be within about 40 to score. Difficult to see us getting enough scores to come back in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on April 19, 2009, 03:23:31 PM
Just got the oppurtunity to see Antrim playing and by God it's awfull stuff to watch. I have never seen a team with such poor disapline. Aimliss passing, given up possesion cheaply not fit to utilise space poor first touch. Even the free taking is brutal. Seriously that is embarrasing. That Offaly team will be coming back down from division one next year but at least their trying to Hurl.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 19, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
What is the score? What way did the team line out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on April 19, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
1-13 to 0-7 for Offaly.

They're just much more natural hurlers, though Antrim are poor in their positioning and discipline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
All over 1-18 to 13 points. Offally had the better score takers and deservedly won the match. After 30 minutes the score was 0-8 to 0-6 but by half time it was 1-11 to 0-6 and McManus had been yellow carded. Antrim never recovered from that although the gap was closed to four points with about ten minutes to go but then Offally lifted it again and ran out fairly easy winners.
Was it just me or was the ref today a little podgy lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
All over 1-18 to 13 points. Offally had the better score takers and deservedly won the match. After 30 minutes the score was 0-8 to 0-6 but by half time it was 1-11 to 0-6 and McManus had been yellow carded. Antrim never recovered from that although the gap was closed to four points with about ten minutes to go but then Offally lifted it again and ran out fairly easy winners.
Was it just me or was the ref today a little podgy lol
Yes the gap got to 4 points but there was never any danger of Antrim pushing on for the win or draw. There was just no intensity to their play and they couldn't force Offally to leave third gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 19, 2009, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
All over 1-18 to 13 points. Offally had the better score takers and deservedly won the match. After 30 minutes the score was 0-8 to 0-6 but by half time it was 1-11 to 0-6 and McManus had been yellow carded. Antrim never recovered from that although the gap was closed to four points with about ten minutes to go but then Offally lifted it again and ran out fairly easy winners.
Was it just me or was the ref today a little podgy lol

Offaly always that bit better. While before I would never have admitted it, after that reality check, I'm happy enough to be staying in division 2 next year. Whatever about playing the best, a series of hidings in Division 1 would be no use at all. Quite fearful about the Dublin game at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 08:12:17 PM
I think we can play much better than today but probably not well enough to see off Dublin who seem to be heading in the right direction much quicker than us. We could start by playing six forwards in the forward line instead of three. I know we were missing a few today but both Paddy Magill and Micko Herron made a difference when they came on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:16:57 PM
Jingo was certainly badly treated but until the end of the year at least we have W+S to lead us so we might as well get on with it. No point in starting a bring back Jingo campaign as a) he already has a job in Down and B) he probably does not want the Antrim job again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 19, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
As Woody says, "Who cares?"

Bring back Jingo.

In all seriousness, where have S&W brought us? Why did we dick Jingo?
Did he say "who cares"? I thought Antrim were poor today. They played with the intensity of a challenge game and to make it worse that is a poor Offaly team and they were never out of third gear. I thought the half back line  struggled, Nealy Mc Garry in particular, in fairness it was probably Offalys strongest line. The yellow card for Mc Manus didnt really influence the outcome of the game as he wasnt having any impact up to that point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
As Woody says, "Who cares?"

Bring back Jingo.

In all seriousness, where have S&W brought us? Why did we dick Jingo?
Did he say "who cares"? I thought Antrim were poor today. They played with the intensity of a challenge game and to make it worse that is a poor Offaly team and they were never out of third gear. I thought the half back line  struggled, Nealy Mc Garry in particular, in fairness it was probably Offalys strongest line. The yellow card for Mc Manus didnt really influence the outcome of the game as he wasnt having any impact up to that point.

I thought Neal McGarry was doing full back with Cormac Donnelly at centre half? You are right about Offally half forwards being strong, it was the ability of this line to take scores that made the difference. Not sure about the intensity thing, players were trying quite a few black and yellow cards about tends to suggest both sides putting in effort. I agree with you about McManus though, needs moved back into defence preferably CHB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2009, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
Get rid of the two, I say. It is great that they can walk into a job, having done f**k all noteworthy. That's typical Sambo, something for nothing. Woody is just a clown.

Bin the two t**ts. In fact, it would be Sambo's style to jump before the Dublin game.
I watched the interview with Woody afterwards and he admitted that Antrim weren't up to the job. The thing Woody and Sambo don't realise is that people expect results at the end of these "three year plans".

Dinny had a three year plan to win Liam and now these clowns are coming to the end of their grand scheme are we really any further on since Dinny via Jingo? I think not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2009, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
As Woody says, "Who cares?"

Bring back Jingo.

In all seriousness, where have S&W brought us? Why did we dick Jingo?
Did he say "who cares"? I thought Antrim were poor today. They played with the intensity of a challenge game and to make it worse that is a poor Offaly team and they were never out of third gear. I thought the half back line  struggled, Nealy Mc Garry in particular, in fairness it was probably Offalys strongest line. The yellow card for Mc Manus didnt really influence the outcome of the game as he wasnt having any impact up to that point.

I thought Neal McGarry was doing full back with Cormac Donnelly at centre half? You are right about Offally half forwards being strong, it was the ability of this line to take scores that made the difference. Not sure about the intensity thing, players were trying quite a few black and yellow cards about tends to suggest both sides putting in effort. I agree with you about McManus though, needs moved back into defence preferably CHB.
Really? I thought it was a lacklustre affair too and the number of cards can't really reflect the overall level of effort. It would be even more frightening if Antrim were throwing everything at it, as Offally never seemed troubled even when the margin was down to 4 points.

If they can't get up for the Dublin game they may all throw in the towel. A lot of eyes will be on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2009, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2009, 09:22:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
As Woody says, "Who cares?"

Bring back Jingo.

In all seriousness, where have S&W brought us? Why did we dick Jingo?
Did he say "who cares"? I thought Antrim were poor today. They played with the intensity of a challenge game and to make it worse that is a poor Offaly team and they were never out of third gear. I thought the half back line  struggled, Nealy Mc Garry in particular, in fairness it was probably Offalys strongest line. The yellow card for Mc Manus didnt really influence the outcome of the game as he wasnt having any impact up to that point.

I thought Neal McGarry was doing full back with Cormac Donnelly at centre half? You are right about Offally half forwards being strong, it was the ability of this line to take scores that made the difference. Not sure about the intensity thing, players were trying quite a few black and yellow cards about tends to suggest both sides putting in effort. I agree with you about McManus though, needs moved back into defence preferably CHB.
Really? I thought it was a lacklustre affair too and the number of cards can't really reflect the overall level of effort. It would be even more frightening if Antrim were throwing everything at it, as Offally never seemed troubled even when the margin was down to 4 points.

If they can't get up for the Dublin game they may all throw in the towel. A lot of eyes will be on them.

I think it may have been the lack of atmosphere at the match that made the intensity seem low on TV. There were quite a lot of late hits going on from both sides and i would reckon it was a physical enough game to play in. Regarding the Dublin match if  we loose who do we play then? Is it a group with all the other preliminary round losers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 10:00:03 PM
Just back from Tullamore, at least I was there, not like you shower of TV armchair critics.  We were woeful, theres no doubt, maybe it's as well we are staying in Div. 2 for another year.  Maybe one of you great Antrim Hurling Gurus, will oust S&W, and produce some better performances!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Lads ...why is everybody disappointed at the lack of progress? The discipline and attitude of some on the panel is brutal and I would never expect Antrim to really push on when the personnel are there to do so. We are where we are. The decision to go into leinster straight away without a proper planned development timeframe before hand was a bad one and we'lll get hammered for it after the dublin match.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2009, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 10:05:50 PM
A) You were not in Tullamore. Stop lying.
B) Get rid of S&W.
C) Stop lying.
D) Just drank a bottle of Tullamore Dew.

I know where the smart money is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 10:45:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 10:05:50 PM
A) You were not in Tullamore. Stop lying.
B) Get rid of S&W.
C) Stop lying.

I sure was in Tullamore, I note thet you were not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 10:55:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 10:39:20 PM
:D

Jingo, Sambo, Woody, Dinny, they were all plonkers!  3 Year Plans, Development Plans, a load of old Bo****Ks, if you ask me.  Lets play with a little bit of abandon, get stuck into the opposition, hurl manfully and with a degree of pride and stop the pussyfooting around.  And as for you lot, why not try getting behind the team for once instead of the constant criticisms.  Call yourselves Antrim hurling people, you are nothing but a joke.  As I said, I was at Tullamore today.  Antrim can do without people like you, always quick to criticise, accuse, lambast and blame everyone else, Tut, tut, tut!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.



I agree with a lot of what is posted here but with regard to the last point about Cody would he improve things yes unquestionably. He would play simple direct hurling, players would pull their weight or be slung off the team, no drinking culture whatsoever, no old nonsense about style of play if you loose you did not play well enough congratulate the opposition and move on, club matches would be played on a regular basis, excuses would be banned result is everything. Now could he win an all ireland with us probably not but he could get us into Div 1 and make us competitive with most teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

It's not only about personnel. It's about, support, investment, belief and a desire to succeed!  It's about being prepared to work hard, instilling discipline, motivation, and commitment, not just from the players, but every man, woman, child, administrator, coach, school, club buying into a strategic structure and measurable/achievable plan to progress and succeed.  Will you play your part, that is the question, or will you like most of the other demogouges on here, continue to sit on the sidelines and bemoan everything and everybody?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:13:30 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 19, 2009, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.



I agree with a lot of what is posted here but with regard to the last point about Cody would he improve things yes unquestionably. He would play simple direct hurling, players would pull their weight or be slung off the team, no drinking culture whatsoever, no old nonsense about style of play if you loose you did not play well enough congratulate the opposition and move on, club matches would be played on a regular basis, excuses would be banned result is everything. Now could he win an all ireland with us probably not but he could get us into Div 1 and make us competitive with most teams.
I could'nt agree more SCB.  Sure is'nt that all we want intitially, to be able to compete and hold out own in the top flight!  It seems there are individulas on here who love to see us languish in the lower division and never make any progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 19, 2009, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

It's not only about personnel. It's about, support, investment, belief and a desire to succeed!  It's about being prepared to work hard, instilling discipline, motivation, and commitment, not just from the players, but every man, woman, child, administrator, coach, school, club buying into a strategic structure and measurable/achievable plan to progress and succeed.  Will you play your part, that is the question, or will you like most of the other demogouges on here, continue to sit on the sidelines and bemoan everything and everybody?
"demogouges", now where have i seen that term used  quite frequently on an internet discussion board? It will come to me . . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
No noble history at national level
Not enough clubs competitive at senior
Not enough coaches of the right quality to look after club sides and development squads
Belfast clubs hemorrhaging players from U16 up
Not enough coffers to provide funding to prepare teams in a more professional manner
Not enough real support of the game at both club or county level
In KK & Cork etc it helps your job options playing for your county. We don't have that incentive.
Alot of people in Antrim couldn't give a f**k

Why are we surprised when our county team doesn't quite cut i on the national stage?

It's an uphill struggle and we're being too harsh IMO when all things are considered.  
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:20:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2009, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Who do the HUrling Supporters of Antrim want then?

We didnt want a outside manager who didnt play any club matches who promised us a All Ireland in 3 years but we performe welll in QF'S yet still lost
The players didnt want a manager who got good results somehow but his reign was a total joke
Or 2 former Heroes who promised us long term progress but suferred in the short-term

In 125 years of the GAA Antrim have reached only 2 Senior Hurling finals getting hammered in both. Is it a massive suprise to people that we have struggled?? In a 7-8 year spell at max (86 - 93) we held our own...thats it. Shite for the rest of it. Would Brian Cody improve our senior hurling team by much if he had the exact same personnel on show.

It's not only about personnel. It's about, support, investment, belief and a desire to succeed!  It's about being prepared to work hard, instilling discipline, motivation, and commitment, not just from the players, but every man, woman, child, administrator, coach, school, club buying into a strategic structure and measurable/achievable plan to progress and succeed.  Will you play your part, that is the question, or will you like most of the other demogouges on here, continue to sit on the sidelines and bemoan everything and everybody?
"demogouges", now where have i seen that term used  quite frequently on an internet discussion board? It will come to me . . . . . .
I have'nt the slightest notion what you are referring to pal.  But in this instance the term'demagouge' you are hearing from me and only me! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 19, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
SAS

get off your horse ya ballbag, i know a couple of the users and i know what they put into hurling in antrim, and its a hell of a lot. so we don't know who you are and what you have given, you haven't stated. so what makes you a better judge than the users on here.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 19, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
No noble history at national level
Not enough clubs competitive at senior
Not enough coaches of the right quality to look after club sides and development squads
Belfast clubs hemorrhaging players from U16 up
Not enough coffers to provide funding to prepare teams in a more professional manner
Not enough real support of the game at both club or county level
In KK & Cork etc it helps your job options playing for your county. We don't have that incentive.
Alot of people in Antrim couldn't give a f**k

Why are we surprised when our county team doesn't quite cut i on the national stage?

It's an uphill struggle and we're being too harsh IMO when all things are considered.  
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot?
Quote from: the colonel on April 19, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
SAS

get off your horse ya ballbag, i know a couple of the users and i know what they put into hurling in antrim, and its a hell of a lot. so we don't know who you are and what you have given, you haven't stated. so what makes you a better judge than the users on here.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP
I hurled at school, played for parish,club and county.  Coached, raised funds, delivered coaching programmes, stoned the brits in Casement Park, coached camogie, travelled the lenght and breadth of the country with juveniles and underage players. And did I happen to mention I was at Tullamore today.  Are they decent enough credentials for you? Lets hear your input!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:42:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 11:32:26 PM
SASLinger
What did Jingo do (as Antrim hurling manager) for you to label him a plonker?

Well, for one, he had an asshole in McK****** as his assistant.  Two, he did not have the courage of his convictions to challenge the county board as to why S&W were permitted to supercede him.  That certainly proved to me he was weak in character.  Three, do you really think that someone who attempted to decapitate a Tipperary player in the '89 final is the sort of coach/manager you want to have around young players?  Granted, he got a couple of decent results against poor 26 county opposition, but other than that, zilch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:46:53 PM
So, 'the Colonel' Senior Member, what exactly is your credentials?  I note you have not elaborated! I suppose being a Senior Member and all that! :-\

I am away to bed, had a long day travelling to Co. Offaly.  Maybe you will grace us all with a detailed response?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:53:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 11:48:30 PM
Decapitating someone takes effort, SAS. A lot more effort than what was displayed today. He did speak out against his dicking but then realised that he was done up like a kipper and took it on the chin.

He can be proud of the work he did with Antrim unlike these two. McSpa needs to go too.

So 'decapitating takes effort' is alright in your book. F**king wise up ya p***k!  'Took it on the chin', did he?  He whinged and moaned like an aul woman behind backs.  The 'these two' and 'McSpa' you refer to, take your gripes up with them, not me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
 
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot

Why have you assumed I don't already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 20, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.



How are Tosh and Humpys trainings being received by the Down players JC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 10:24:22 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 20, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
you can have jingo and digger any time you like but leave us Humpy and Tosh.



How are Tosh and Humpys trainings being received by the Down players JC?


Very well Minder and according to my very good sources  ;) within the panel they'd absolutely fucked (not that they aren't crap anyway) without them.

Div 2 for another year is a victory of sorts for Down as they've been fucked with injuries, absentee's and whinging players to date.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Whinging players.......is this becoming a bigger issue with the younger generation of hurlers. Seems to be alot of know it all teenagers who don't like to be told these days or is that just me showing my age?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Whinging players.......is this becoming a bigger issue with the younger generation of hurlers. Seems to be alot of know it all teenagers who don't like to be told these days or is that just me showing my age?

Well, I suppose when you started using the Viagra (to stop you rolling out of bed), the Grecian 2000, anti wrinkle cream, the incontinence pants, you are starting to show your age alright.  ;D  "Know it all teenagers" seems to be the'teenagers' have something in common with the stalwarts on here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot

Why have you assumed I don't already?

Because I note from your postings that you are always having a go at county administarors, Managers, coaches etc.  It strikes me whilst you critiscise everyone and sundry, you dont elaborate on the 'positive role' you are actually engaged in within the county in hurling terms.  I am theroefore begging the question, what part are you playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 19, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
SAS

get off your horse ya ballbag, i know a couple of the users and i know what they put into hurling in antrim, and its a hell of a lot. so we don't know who you are and what you have given, you haven't stated. so what makes you a better judge than the users on here.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Would this be the royal we you are referring to?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2009, 11:56:49 PM
So your point is........to the question I asked?

As Antrim manager........

Read the question and answer it bullroot.

Well, Lets see now.  Yeah I know, He done absolutley F**K All!    - saying that, it was - No more and no less than those before and who proceeded him. ZILCH!  And sure look at the great job he is doing with Down.  Lets get real here Buckwheat!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 20, 2009, 01:08:11 PM
there would seem to be wiser out in fields chewing grass than whats on this board at times.

Thought Antrim where poor yesterday but the reality is we lost out on qualification for the league final with poor results to Westmeath & Carlow.

It will be dissapointing for S&W that given the great comeback and result against Wexford, Antrim haven't really built on from that.  injuries and suspensions played there part,

2 big negatives from the game, we coughed up lots of space in the central defensive areas (not always just the FB and CHB faults) andwe won a sparse amount of primary ball.

Now thats where the main issue is for the management, McManus is probaly the best CHB in the county (available to play) but do we need him further forward, need to get at least 2 more ballwinners, a fit Paddy Richmond and a motivated Mcko Herron will help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on April 20, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
We were useless yesterday. We had no ball winner in the forwards whatsoever. Plenty of times we were out in front but couldnt hold onto the ball first time. Each time the ball was on the ground an Offaly man won it--even when there was 7 antrim players and one Offaly man round a ball, Antrim couldnt win it--look at the goal for one such example.

We were so slow with no zip to our play and poor striking--as far back as i can remember we have always been poor at striking--why? Did anyone else notice that neearly all of Offaly's scores were when an Offaly man was waltzing through unopposed as if he was out his back garden?

Ive seen milk turn quicker than Kelly at full forward

Embarrasing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 20, 2009, 02:11:13 PM
Overall I thought the display was abject.

I hate to be like a broken record but it was obvoius that there was no cohesion or fluidity in our play because the team is constantly changing and no one is getting used to playing beside another man.

I would have to say that again Graffin was the top performer, he gave his man no space and was agressive without the ball and positive on the ball.

We have small forwards barring KK, and what do we do we play a stupid high ball in every time, SD was aty fault for this on numerous occasions instead of when we have time giving our man the advantage we throw in a 50-50 ball. Is this the pattern of play that has been talked about?

Really disappointed with the display against a very poor offaly side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2009, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Whinging players.......is this becoming a bigger issue with the younger generation of hurlers. Seems to be alot of know it all teenagers who don't like to be told these days or is that just me showing my age?

Well I must be showing mine as well.

If I came off the field after my man scored 7 points from play (not that it hasn't happened!!) I'd be keeping my head down for a few weeks, but not some of these self inflated prima-donna's who must have someone blowin smoke up their holes as it's everyones else's fault rather than their inabilities.

Put one of these sports psychologists into a room and its open season on the manager which IMO is unfair and all to easy for some players to apportion blame without having to be man enough to speak face to face with the man they're berating..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
What utopian GAA world do you live in SAS? Definately correct about the proper development through underage, but to think there is this long list of willing talented coaches scratching their cahoonas waiting to be asked before they get involved is delusioned. Too many potentially good talented coaches watching sky or playing golf in this county. What happened to giving something back?

Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analyisis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot

Why have you assumed I don't already?

Because I note from your postings that you are always having a go at county administarors, Managers, coaches etc.  It strikes me whilst you critiscise everyone and sundry, you dont elaborate on the 'positive role' you are actually engaged in within the county in hurling terms.  I am theroefore begging the question, what part are you playing?

And what did you note from the posting above which was after all directed at you....which you haven't replied to but instead deleted your comment?  FFS   ???. And whats with this begging business? I don't need to prove myself to the likes of you, suffice to say my conscience is clear. That will have to do you.

Have to laugh at your pointed attacks on established members of this board for "having goes at administarors, managers, coaches", when in actual fact you are the biggest perputrator. You really couldn't make you up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
What utopian GAA world do you live in SAS? Definately correct about the proper development through underage, but to think there is this long list of willing talented coaches scratching their cahoonas waiting to be asked before they get involved is delusioned. Too many potentially good talented coaches watching sky or playing golf in this county. What happened to giving something back?

Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 12:36:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 19, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
A fair analysis Skull, but are you prepared to play your part to improve our lot


Why have you assumed I don't already?

Because I note from your postings that you are always having a go at county administarors, Managers, coaches etc.  It strikes me whilst you criticise everyone and sundry, you don't elaborate on the 'positive role' you are actually engaged in within the county in hurling terms.  I am theroefore begging the question, what part are you playing?

And what did you note from the posting above which was after all directed at you....which you haven't replied to but instead deleted your comment?  FFS   ???. And whats with this begging business? I don't need to prove myself to the likes of you, suffice to say my conscience is clear. That will have to do you.

Have to laugh at your pointed attacks on established members of this board for "having goes at administrators, managers, coaches", when in actual fact you are the biggest perputrator. You really couldn't make you up

It would appear that you fit the 'gamekeeper and poacher' category.  I was indeed referring to a lot of your historical postings and not just the recent ones.  Why is it you all of sudden you become extremely defensive when somebody challenges you?  Our others not entitled to freedom of speech on this forum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
It would appear that you fit the 'gamekeeper and poacher' category.  I was indeed referring to a lot of your historical postings and not just the recent ones.  Why is it you all of sudden you become extremely defensive when somebody challenges you?  Our others not entitled to freedom of speech on this forum?

It's your general demeanour SASlinger although whats extreme about my response I don't know. I'm not the only one who has a problem with your tone and attitude since joining. Are you oblivious to that fact? I very much doubt it. A complete WUM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
It would appear that you fit the 'gamekeeper and poacher' category.  I was indeed referring to a lot of your historical postings and not just the recent ones.  Why is it you all of sudden you become extremely defensive when somebody challenges you?  Our others not entitled to freedom of speech on this forum?

It's your general demeanour SASlinger although whats extreme about my response I don't know. I'm not the only one who has a problem with your tone and attitude since joining. Are you oblivious to that fact? I very much doubt it. A complete WUM.

I don't see that my general demeanor is much different from other contributors on here, thats is including yourself, I may add.  A complete WUM, l am not familiar with this term, maybe you will enlighten me?  To be totally frank about things, I don't give a F**K!   I don't care either if I am kicked off this forum either.  Unlike you and others, I wont be guarded and I will say what I feel, needs to be said.  I certainly wont be bullied or intimidated by the small band of 'Super Members' which I sense you are allied to.  If we are going to discuss, debate or be analytical about Antrim Hurling, at least lets be frank, open and manly about it.  I have nothing to hide pal!  It would appear that if someone who challenges established members of this forum and does not confrom to their way of thinking, they get booted out, barred, banned.  Is that how you and others wish exist within a veiled, closeted antrim hurling forum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
Well if you don't see it then I'm not going to convince you otherwise.

BTW http://www.all-acronyms.com/WUM (http://www.all-acronyms.com/WUM)   It's one of these three
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 04:55:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
Well if you don't see it then I'm not going to convince you otherwise.

BTW http://www.all-acronyms.com/WUM (http://www.all-acronyms.com/WUM)   It's one of these three

Wismut uranium miners - Now how did you know I was one of those?.  I think I have underestimated you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 20, 2009, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 20, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
We were useless yesterday. We had no ball winner in the forwards whatsoever. Plenty of times we were out in front but couldnt hold onto the ball first time. Each time the ball was on the ground an Offaly man won it--even when there was 7 antrim players and one Offaly man round a ball, Antrim couldnt win it--look at the goal for one such example.

We were so slow with no zip to our play and poor striking--as far back as i can remember we have always been poor at striking--why? Did anyone else notice that neearly all of Offaly's scores were when an Offaly man was waltzing through unopposed as if he was out his back garden?

Ive seen milk turn quicker than Kelly at full forward

Embarrasing

Agreed! however he was the best forward in the first half, the only one with a bit of fight in him!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 20, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Just be careful Skull you are not asked to rendezvous outside Casement again..................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2009, 09:28:34 PM
 :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 20, 2009, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: youngfella on April 20, 2009, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 20, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
We were useless yesterday. We had no ball winner in the forwards whatsoever. Plenty of times we were out in front but couldnt hold onto the ball first time. Each time the ball was on the ground an Offaly man won it--even when there was 7 antrim players and one Offaly man round a ball, Antrim couldnt win it--look at the goal for one such example.

We were so slow with no zip to our play and poor striking--as far back as i can remember we have always been poor at striking--why? Did anyone else notice that neearly all of Offaly's scores were when an Offaly man was waltzing through unopposed as if he was out his back garden?

Ive seen milk turn quicker than Kelly at full forward

Embarrasing

Agreed! however he was the best forward in the first half, the only one with a bit of fight in him!
Loada bollocks!  Karl Stewart was the best and only forward if you ask me.  Remember, I was there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 06:37:12 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 20, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Just be careful Skull you are not asked to rendezvous outside Casement again..................

Minder, us referees where told it was the other way!!!! Skull offered the casement rendezvous? Ain't that right skull, SAS should watch his back! Where r u MR? you have been very quiet recently.... keeping a low profile??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 21, 2009, 07:13:31 AM
Holding hands up. TDK is of course correct. Fair play to yourself as a "new member"  of the board spending the time to go back through all those pages to find that out. Respect.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 21, 2009, 07:13:31 AM
Holding hands up. TDK is of course correct. Fair play to yourself as a "new member"  of the board spending the time to go back through all those pages to find that out. Respect.  ;)

apology accepted Skull, "New Member! with old friends who found themselves banned from the site", lot of talk about this board in our changing rooms, lot of people being identified e.g. MR for one.... and there are now more and more being quietly outed as time goes on, full circle and all that. Notice MR,s posts have become less frequent and more passive.....UHHHHHH i wonder why? He,s now a legend in his own lifetime!!!!!!! All my colleagues in black watch his career with interest now..... This board has made him infamous not only in his own classroom.......................................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.

Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed. Youre beginning to sound like a Hero Member of the Antrim Hurling thread.  Must be well in with the poisioned dwarf (Antrim Secretary) getting such information.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2009, 09:17:02 PM
In all seriousness have a bit of respect - a man has died.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
I've got my self a fan on the Antrim football thread.  (MrSandman).  Yeez are all F***ed now.  See, I am beginning to win people over to my way of thinking. i.e.  Don't talk/take no shoite!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
I've got my self a fan on the Antrim football thread.  (MrSandman).  Yeez are all F***ed now.  See, I am beginning to win people over to my way of thinking. i.e.  Don't talk/take no shoite!

Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D


Many thanks Sandman!!!!!!!!  Appreciate the support.  Ya know, all the boys think I am a County Administrator, (particularly on the Antrim Hurling thread) one of McSparrans Boys.  Totally wrong they are!

You lash out at many that have had a problem with your general tone and attitude, then latch onto the first comment that looks like *he supports your "style" (*you need the sarcasm filter in your brain turned off to see it in that way...everybody try it ....it works).........your some craic SAS  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 04:12:15 PM
Tir na Nog    Rossa    Tir na Nog   26/04/2009   14:30   Reilly Terry

I am totally amazed that this idiot is allowed to take the field after his recent behaviour at the Lamhs v Gorts match! CHC member, thats why we are; where we are, in this county, in the hands of idiots like this ref!!!!! The county needs to get shot of him and a few others!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2009, 04:24:08 PM
Can we start with you please?

Then your mate next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.

Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed. Youre beginning to sound like a Hero Member of the Antrim Hurling thread.  Must be well in with the poisioned dwarf (Antrim Secretary) getting such information.

I resent the implication of being a member of Proinsias,s gang, he just a parasite. The statement was not judgemental or self righteous in any way, i knew the man well. You are obviously not a teacher SAS like so many on this board and knew F*** All about the man. Do not also associate me with P****S like MR and a few of his back door buddies!!!! Poetic Truth, look at the Antrim Website, very few postings on the topic, i can guess why, again based on 1st hand experience, unlike that B-Shit from your soap box!!! IT mus,nt be your strong point either, the article was lifted from the Antrim Website you P****, missed toooooo many classes at school SAS, ah well there,s always a job in the civil service.......... And please use spell check....... A Chara
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
I've got my self a fan on the Antrim football thread.  (MrSandman).  Yeez are all F***ed now.  See, I am beginning to win people over to my way of thinking. i.e.  Don't talk/take no shoite!

Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D


Many thanks Sandman!!!!!!!!  Appreciate the support.  Ya know, all the boys think I am a County Administrator, (particularly on the Antrim Hurling thread) one of McSparrans Boys.  Totally wrong they are!

You lash out at many that have had a problem with your general tone and attitude, then latch onto the first comment that looks like *he supports your "style" (*you need the sarcasm filter in your brain turned off to see it in that way...everybody try it ....it works).........your some craic SAS  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:12:10 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
I've got my self a fan on the Antrim football thread.  (MrSandman).  Yeez are all F***ed now.  See, I am beginning to win people over to my way of thinking. i.e.  Don't talk/take no shoite!

Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 10:37:29 AM
Quote from: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed.

Aye SASlinger is good craic, no aul shite out of him :D


Many thanks Sandman!!!!!!!!  Appreciate the support.  Ya know, all the boys think I am a County Administrator, (particularly on the Antrim Hurling thread) one of McSparrans Boys.  Totally wrong they are!

You lash out at many that have had a problem with your general tone and attitude, then latch onto the first comment that looks like *he supports your "style" (*you need the sarcasm filter in your brain turned off to see it in that way...everybody try it ....it works).........your some craic SAS  ::)

Hi Skull.  I am not lashing out pal, I am just saying it as it is.  Sarcasm in my book is the lowest form of wit!  I don't have the Sarcasm filter turned on at anytime at all.  It just seems like some individuals on the hurling thread are not appreciative of my straight talking.  Some of useless claptrap, comments, contributions and ludicrous diatribe which permeates on here, never ceases to amaze me, given that they are submitted by some who know nothing about hurling or have ever been actively engaged in it.

I am glad you are enjoying the craic!  I feel I am bringing a little bit of life to the hurling thread.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.

Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed. Youre beginning to sound like a Hero Member of the Antrim Hurling thread.  Must be well in with the poisioned dwarf (Antrim Secretary) getting such information.

I resent the implication of being a member of Proinsias,s gang, he just a parasite. The statement was not judgemental or self righteous in any way, i knew the man well. You are obviously not a teacher SAS like so many on this board and knew F*** All about the man. Do not also associate me with P****S like MR and a few of his back door buddies!!!! Poetic Truth, look at the Antrim Website, very few postings on the topic, i can guess why, again based on 1st hand experience, unlike that B-Shit from your soap box!!! IT mus,nt be your strong point either, the article was lifted from the Antrim Website you P****, missed toooooo many classes at school SAS, ah well there,s always a job in the civil service.......... And please use spell check....... A Chara

Big deal ya Pri**, so you knew the man.  The man is dead and their is a family grieving as a result.  What gives you the right however to come on here and judge the individual with such utterances as 'he lead a chequered life, to say the least' ??????

Are you some sort of Prima Donna also when it comes to refereeing.  Again who are you to judge any referee in the county and make unsubstantiated remarks about a persons behaviour at a recent game between GNM v LD, how dare you pal, who do you really think you are.  Ya know, this county is in dire need of referees, particularly for hurling.  The last thing we need in the county is for some pr*** like you coming on here and engaging in character assassinations of acting or potential new referees.  Bit of advice friend, do not judge others, lest you be judged yourself.  Grow up, engage your brain before you open that loose gob of yours.  So you actively engage in plaguerism, extracting articles from the Antrim Website!  Well, good for you, I don't use the Antrim website myself, I am pleased to say.

Talking about Parasites, kettle calling the pot black, or what!  By the way, your not too adept at the aul spellings urself!

Between u an me pal, u talk the greatest load of aul boll****.  However, dont take that persoanl and get me booted off here.  I am led to believe you are very good at barring contributors from this thread.  You can also resent all ya F**k*** want, cause I dont give a fiddlers boll****!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2009, 08:04:17 PM
Some clever boys on here lately. Can they not just go back to posting crap on the county site or Hoganstand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2009, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2009, 08:04:17 PM
Some clever boys on here lately. Can they not just go back to posting crap on the county site or Hoganstand.

I wouldnt be too sure of the plural "boys," Tony.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 08:49:23 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 22, 2009, 08:04:17 PM
Some clever boys on here lately. Can they not just go back to posting crap on the county site or Hoganstand.

What are you talking about, Wonderboy!  Your contributions are like two fifths of F*** All, Squared!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 21, 2009, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

A chara

I regret to inform you of the death of Mr Oliver Kelly, Former Antrim Chairman. Oliver passed away last night (Monday)

Go ndeanna dia trocaire ar a anam


Is mise
Proinsias Ó Coinne
Rúnaí Chontae Aontroma

A checkered life to say the least..... May he now rest in peace.

Who the f*** are you to judge anybody in life, ya self righteous p***k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  None of us are perfect and have not transgressed. Youre beginning to sound like a Hero Member of the Antrim Hurling thread.  Must be well in with the poisioned dwarf (Antrim Secretary) getting such information.

I resent the implication of being a member of Proinsias,s gang, he just a parasite. The statement was not judgemental or self righteous in any way, i knew the man well. You are obviously not a teacher SAS like so many on this board and knew F*** All about the man. Do not also associate me with P****S like MR and a few of his back door buddies!!!! Poetic Truth, look at the Antrim Website, very few postings on the topic, i can guess why, again based on 1st hand experience, unlike that B-Shit from your soap box!!! IT mus,nt be your strong point either, the article was lifted from the Antrim Website you P****, missed toooooo many classes at school SAS, ah well there,s always a job in the civil service.......... And please use spell check....... A Chara

Big deal ya Pri**, so you knew the man.  The man is dead and their is a family grieving as a result.  What gives you the right however to come on here and judge the individual with such utterances as 'he lead a chequered life, to say the least' ??????

Are you some sort of Prima Donna also when it comes to refereeing.  Again who are you to judge any referee in the county and make unsubstantiated remarks about a persons behaviour at a recent game between GNM v LD, how dare you pal, who do you really think you are.  Ya know, this county is in dire need of referees, particularly for hurling.  The last thing we need in the county is for some pr*** like you coming on here and engaging in character assassinations of acting or potential new referees.  Bit of advice friend, do not judge others, lest you be judged yourself.  Grow up, engage your brain before you open that loose gob of yours.  So you actively engage in plaguerism, extracting articles from the Antrim Website!  Well, good for you, I don't use the Antrim website myself, I am pleased to say.

Talking about Parasites, kettle calling the pot black, or what!  By the way, your not too adept at the aul spellings urself!

Between u an me pal, u talk the greatest load of aul boll****.  However, dont take that persoanl and get me booted off here.  I am led to believe you are very good at barring contributors from this thread.  You can also resent all ya F**k*** want, cause I dont give a fiddlers boll****!

AHHHHHH SAS you bring a smile to my face everytime, this thread needs you, be careful you don,t get outed though like MR, i think skull and minder and those boys are secret moderators!!!!! Keep it going the talk around the dressing rooms is some crac, your quickly becomming a legend a chara..... Look forward everyday to having a laugh, keep it up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 08:55:14 PM
I think minders finished marking homeworks from the tower or st Lou,s spoiling the karma on this site boys like us SAS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 09:02:46 PM
Hi TDK, who ever the f*** u are?  Whats this changing rooms crap you are going on about?  I am never about changing rooms, do you think I am some sort of arse watcher or something.  Catch yourself on >:(

Somehow, you remind me of an old catholic priest I once new at the Tower, who used to lurch around the showers!  All I can say is, "thank f*** I had the duke of argyles" -  ouch!  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
Anyone else think were being visited by a pair of these? :)

(http://www.storyworldwide.com/images/library/b5378c85-.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2009, 09:12:23 PM
Skull I think you are giving him them too much credit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 22, 2009, 08:55:14 PM
I think minders finished marking homeworks from the tower or st Lou,s spoiling the karma on this site boys like us SAS!!!!!!!!!

Hi pal!  lets not be creating the impression you are some sort of associate of mine.  I am a bit of a loaner if you dont mind.  Speak my mind, stand on my own two feet, am voiciferous in my opinions (which some dont like).  I am my own man, pr**!  Go and find some other contributor to make buddies with.  No offence intended of course. ;) - woooooooo.  Hold the front page, change that!  I dont really give a flying f*** if you are offended or not, be warned, I dont want or need your comradeship!  By the way, You alluded to, in an earlier posting that I should 'watch my back' is that some sort of a threat or something?  I am ur f****** man for that aul nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
Anyone else think were being visited by a pair of these? :)

(http://www.storyworldwide.com/images/library/b5378c85-.jpg)

Hi Skull.  I wish my girl had a pair of those, wow! Is that what they call them now, Agent Provocatuers, well f*** me boy's, I am always learning.  I think I am going out with a man!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2009, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2009, 09:12:23 PM
Skull I think you are giving him them too much credit

Do you think  :). This would suit SAS (he likes these books)

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ksm/lowres/ksmn1414l.jpg)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the green man on April 22, 2009, 10:46:53 PM
Is he anything to the Assessor at all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 22, 2009, 11:39:14 PM
Mr Linger i thought you were just a WUM in to stir things up but actually thats giving you too much credit. Your just an eejit; at least a good WUM could cover his tracks.

Quote from: SASLinger on April 22, 2009, 07:27:13 PM

Are you some sort of Prima Donna also when it comes to refereeing.  Again who are you to judge any referee in the county and make unsubstantiated remarks about a persons behaviour at a recent game between GNM v LD, how dare you pal, who do you really think you are.  Ya know, this county is in dire need of referees, particularly for hurling.  The last thing we need in the county is for some pr*** like you coming on here and engaging in character assassinations of acting or potential new referees.  Bit of advice friend, do not judge others, lest you be judged yourself.  Grow up, engage your brain before you open that loose gob of yours.  So you actively engage in plaguerism, extracting articles from the Antrim Website!  Well, good for you, I don't use the Antrim website myself, I am pleased to say.

Talking about Parasites, kettle calling the pot black, or what!  By the way, your not too adept at the aul spellings urself!



Quote from: SASLinger on April 11, 2009, 11:31:33 PM
I see the scum***S from GNM & LD have been at their work again.  It's really ironic that TR, a club official and an alledged referee was up to his usual antics. But sure, the big ball game attracts such undesirable individuals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 23, 2009, 08:06:59 AM
good spot fairhead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think most people had their suspicions, well spotted Fairhead. I think in the interests of symmetry he had the exact number of posts for each username. Ah well will be quiet for another while. What an arsehole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think most people had their suspicions, well spotted Fairhead. I think in the interests of symmetry he had the exact number of posts for each username. Ah well will be quiet for another while. What an arsehole.
The next time they send someone over from the Antrim board to mix things up, they really should pick someone with half a brain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think most people had their suspicions, well spotted Fairhead. I think in the interests of symmetry he had the exact number of posts for each username. Ah well will be quiet for another while. What an arsehole.
The next time they send someone over from the Antrim board to mix things up, they really should pick someone with half a brain.

Hi there laddy, how wrong you all are.  Antrim Board, no way, WUM no way, edjit no way. There's no aul shoite with me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2009, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
I think most people had their suspicions, well spotted Fairhead. I think in the interests of symmetry he had the exact number of posts for each username. Ah well will be quiet for another while. What an arsehole.
The next time they send someone over from the Antrim board to mix things up, they really should pick someone with half a brain.
You are making assumptions Tony that they would have someone with those credentials to pick. . . . . . . .Sas go away, have a break, recharge your batteries, get refreshed, reinvent yourself (how many times is it now ?) and come back in a few weeks to make a c**k of yourself again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 10:12:15 AM
Good to see you got that comment in just before class minder? I want to know where is my mate MR? Getting lonely without you MR, miss you boring dribble, team commitments stopping you posting, come on you can log in between classes like the rest of us!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
It's called cyber bullying TDK and makes you look like a real knob. I want to see whats driven you to become so sadly obsessed with MR. I can't remember anything that bad....but you'll know doubt help me understand what you believe to be justification for acting in such a manner?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2009, 10:42:47 AM
I'd say he's one of his pupils.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on April 23, 2009, 10:52:36 AM
Mr Minder can I go to the toilet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 23, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
This is getting out of hand.

This is Hurling Forum if you have an opinion on Antrim Hurling lets hear if not theres the door.

If you dont agree with someones opinion argue with them in a civilised manner without resorting to play ground stuff. We all have different opinions on Antrim hurling and how to take it forward and that is what used to make this place interesting to come and see other peoples thoughts but now it is becoming a bad joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2009, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 23, 2009, 10:52:36 AM
Mr Minder can I go to the toilet?
I dont know Nrico, can you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 23, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
It's called cyber bullying TDK and makes you look like a real knob. I want to see whats driven you to become so sadly obsessed with MR. I can't remember anything that bad....but you'll know doubt help me understand what you believe to be justification for acting in such a manner?

Skull i credited you with more intelligence, springing to the defence of MR who has criticised and assassinated people on this site for a long long time! Whats good for the goose as they say.... What manner are you refererring to skull? To date my colleagues tell me only one poster on this board has resorted to bullying or do we all need to be reminded of that old chestnut again....... He.,s a fellow referee!!! A father of GAA board, cyber bullying! OHHHHH Please....... I miss him! plain and simple
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 23, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
This is getting out of hand.

This is Hurling Forum if you have an opinion on Antrim Hurling lets hear if not theres the door.

If you dont agree with someones opinion argue with them in a civilised manner without resorting to play ground stuff. We all have different opinions on Antrim hurling and how to take it forward and that is what used to make this place interesting to come and see other peoples thoughts but now it is becoming a bad joke.

       GAA Discussion / Local GAA Discussion / Re: ANTRIM HURLING       on: February 23, 2009, 11:04:34 AM
Yeah I have to say I thought so myself, there were a few dodgy calls boths ways.

I also think that he isnt a top ref and that is one of the reasons why he always seems to end up refereeing the northern sides. He would have been well out of his depth in the other semi.


Sure NAG!!!! Quick to point the finger, well lads, back to class catch up with you all later!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 23, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
What was wrong with that comment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2009, 02:46:41 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 23, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
It's called cyber bullying TDK and makes you look like a real knob. I want to see whats driven you to become so sadly obsessed with MR. I can't remember anything that bad....but you'll know doubt help me understand what you believe to be justification for acting in such a manner?

Skull i credited you with more intelligence, springing to the defence of MR who has criticised and assassinated people on this site for a long long time! Whats good for the goose as they say.... What manner are you refererring to skull? To date my colleagues tell me only one poster on this board has resorted to bullying or do we all need to be reminded of that old chestnut again....... He.,s a fellow referee!!! A father of GAA board, cyber bullying! OHHHHH Please....... I miss him! plain and simple

Is this being good for the gander TDK? Fcuk me  :o :-\. Did you see this post from our esteemed man in black NAG?

Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 15, 2009, 08:40:01 AM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 15, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 14, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
AHHHHHH MR, The mighty Owen Elliott(Probably Antrims best referee) tomorrow night, Uhhhhh i wonder did you have a go at him in the past? Better watch your P,s & Q,s with that lad....... Would,nt want your (career) to start with a BANG! now would we....

Owen Elliot (Probably the best referee in Antrim)  you must be joking, wise up would ya!  No way pal.  Ray Mathews and Liam McAuley in my humble opinion are the best two referees in Antrim.  I have watched both these guys and I can honestly say they are probably the best in Ulster.  Elliot, Devlin, Duffy and Magee are way off the mark.  A real pity Tommy Mc is getting on a bit and likely to bow out soon.  McAuley and Mathews have the same refereeing style as Tommy and generally let the game flow.  I have been very impressed with them both.

A bit of a worry though, that no new faces are breaking through.  The County need to be looking at new young referees.

Would agree with you partly on that Linger, Herbie (Liam MC auley) great lad, sound as a pound. The other boy is full of his own importance, its all about Him! 2 faced back stabber, would sell his soul to get a leg up! Travesty if he gets further than Herbie, Elliott has had a lot of postings this year, good lad think your wrong on that one, Duffy? hard to know, got a lot of finals last year?.... Devlin and Magee yes, spent force... Love to see Herbie get a chance, its good to see genuine people get an opportunity, hope he gets the county final this year, would like to see how he gets on....


So I bullied the Assessor?  :)
Maybe you could point the posts out to me just so we can be specific about these things and while you're at it you could post MR's comments which have offended you just so we can understand what drives what I'm sure is a sane individual to behave like a infatuated stalker (like I've already asked you for)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 23, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
This is getting out of hand.

This is Hurling Forum if you have an opinion on Antrim Hurling lets hear if not theres the door.

If you dont agree with someones opinion argue with them in a civilised manner without resorting to play ground stuff. We all have different opinions on Antrim hurling and how to take it forward and that is what used to make this place interesting to come and see other peoples thoughts but now it is becoming a bad joke.

I could not agree more NAG.  It seems it's only a privileged few can wind people up a little and if they get a little close to the mark they are either outed or kicked off by the Antrim Hurling Board 'God Fathers'.  Skull, MR and Minder, in my estimation seem to fit the 'godfather' category.

TDK, you should start your own GAA thread for Referees FFS. dribbling on about referees, what the f*** has that got to do with Antrim Hurling!!!!!!!!!!  Get the f*** outa here ya pri**, ur talking a lot of aul bollocks all together.  You seem a little infatuated with MR also.  A degree of jealousy maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 23, 2009, 04:06:56 PM
ruination of a thread altogether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2009, 04:11:24 PM
That is the whole idea Colonel, he has already been shown to be a halfwit in his various guises over the last six months. Nothing the Antrim county board would like to see more than the ruination of this board and thread in particular.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 23, 2009, 04:50:51 PM
Jesus its seriously crap round here at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2009, 04:11:24 PM
That is the whole idea Colonel, he has already been shown to be a halfwit in his various guises over the last six months. Nothing the Antrim county board would like to see more than the ruination of this board and thread in particular.

Hi there Minder.  Don't be so obsessed friend by thinking I am a WUM from the Antrim County Board, Nothing could be further from the truth.  I like you and others would love to see the current Antrim County Board, wiped out from top to bottom.  Problem is, we would have to take on 'THE KOSC' and that is no mean task, if you know what I mean? That 'TDK' fella may be able to throw some light on this.  Sure I am a bit of a wind up alright, but I like others love hurling and would love to see Antrim hurling develop and improve.  I am not so sure the guys on here have any of the answers though and it has been my experience that all they do is criticise.  That wont improve our lot in terms of hurling by any stretch of the imagination.

A load of old boll**** is discussed on here, it is certainly not a forum which is ever going to improve the standard of Antrim Hurling.

So from my perspective, chill out, I am not here to destroy anybody or anything.  But you got to agree, there is some 'aul shoite' discussed here by the self appointed/self opinionated 'God Fathers' of this thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
Be Careful SAS, we the" KOSC" would like to claim responsibility for outing MR!!! We may have to do the same with you, JESUS lots of postings since i went back to class... Just home F***! busy afternoon boys!!!!

Skull you know, i know, and some of this board know, that you allegedly sent a previous poster a rather aggressive private email offering to share opinions outside casement social, then suddenly he was banned and you survived I WONDER WHY!!!!!

SAS what do you think? Interesting afternoon lads, enquired with the D of E, anyone using property belonging to others i.e school could possibly find themselves in deep S****..... posting on sites like these, Silly Servants are in the same boat... Just think weeeeee should all be careful in the future! You just don,t know what,s around the corner.....

Skull, make you a promise OK, if i can get a hold of that email and i will do my best, i will post it on the site, how,s that now! You could,nt be fairer than that now could you....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
Be Careful SAS, we the" KOSC" would like to claim responsibility for outing MR!!! We may have to do the same with you, JESUS lots of postings since i went back to class... Just home F***! busy afternoon boys!!!!

Skull you know, i know, and some of this board know, that you allegedly sent a previous poster a rather aggressive private email offering to share opinions outside casement social, then suddenly he was banned and you survived I WONDER WHY!!!!!

SAS what do you think? Interesting afternoon lads, enquired with the D of E, anyone using property belonging to others i.e school could possibly find themselves in deep S****..... posting on sites like these, Silly Servants are in the same boat... Just think weeeeee should all be careful in the future! You just don,t know what,s around the corner.....

Skull, make you a promise OK, if i can get a hold of that email and i will do my best, i will post it on the site, how,s that now! You could,nt be fairer than that now could you....

Ah Boll****, r u a f****** School teacher as well, heavens forbid!  So thats why you are onto  MR, did he do you out of a posting or something?
Holy F***, Catriona Ruanne now unto you boys as well.  F*** sake, I will be left here on me own, if you boys all get kicked off by the free state whore!
Whats all this shoite about emails, Skull and outside casement crap! I am lost here, what's that plonker 'TDK' talking about, have I missed something in the thread?

Easy boys, lets all just relax a little, things getting a little personal and all that!

That MR fella, looks like he has a lot to answer for!
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
To stimulate a little debate.  Whats the feeling on the chances of the Antrim County Board, bringing in the great Justin McCarthy, Brian Cody or Ger Loughnane, into Antrim on a consultancy basis to help improve Antrim Hurling?   Yes or No, what do you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 06:37:40 PM
Any of you guys at the late Oliver Kelly's (RIP) funeral today?  I was.  The former County Chairman got a good send off and the was a large attendance.  A lot of Antrim people there as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 23, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
this weeks predictions

wins for Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Portaferry in div 1

div2 Glenariffe and Gorts are the only certs hard to call the rest, Gaels nearly beat us last year and tir na og will give Rossa a good game up there

sarsfields Rasharkin Carey Faughs and Lamhs (they should win that league handy IMO) to win their games

bredagh st Agnes and tough one at Ballymena between them and Lamhs seconds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2009, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 15, 2008, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: Stayousidethesquare on October 15, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
theskull1, very disappointed skull that you did,nt follow through with your promises to meet the "Assessor", outside casement social at the Lynch's v Dall match. We where waiting to see if the discussion would become a bit more detailed. You come onto the site and then allegedly make promises to a poster that you would meet him to discuss the topics in more detail. The lads should be aware of this, he obviously got under your skin and subsequently he now seems to be banished from this site. Your language looking back on the postings seems a little more up tempo than his. Just to finish off by saying Skull you should practice what you preach!!!!!

3 posts in and your stirring ......mmmmmmmmm

Your version of the PM's sent between myself and yer man is ever so lop sided and appears to being used simply as a tactic purley to get the rise. Very similar to the other boy in fact. It was very clear to me that the Assessor wanted one of two things from our chats. Either he name called so much that he wanted any meeting between myself and himself to decend into a full scale row or name called from the safe comfort of his chair as he had no intention of ever meeting me. There is of course the third option that he too seen, that us meeting had every chance of ending acrimoniuosly as did I, and decided that it was best for him not to get back to me about making final arrangements.

You tell me if he has been banished. I have no evidence of that and nor do I care.

Just on your point regarding my language to Assessor
Assessor had every opertunity from the start to debate any issues he might have had with this board and I asked him several times to be more specific with his comments and hoped he would do so. He didn't and took instant offense to me because I was the one who wouldn't let him away with it. So maybe you might want to trawl a bit further back just to understand the chronology and tone of the conversation when I made any comments which you deem to be "more up tempo than his". Would you agree with me. If not, could you point out where I'm wrong in my assertion?

I'm just after reading your PM.... it reads "Gutless". Why not put that in the main thread. It was only one word.  Did you want to come across a bit more considered with your views to the rest of the board.

Would you mind explaining to me what you mean because you sound to me like a kid in a playground shouting "fight fight fight"?

You and the assessor appear to have alot in common.




Quote from: The Dark Knight on April 23, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
Skull you know, i know, and some of this board know, that you allegedly sent a previous poster a rather aggressive private email offering to share opinions outside casement social, then suddenly he was banned and you survived I WONDER WHY!!!!!

Skull, make you a promise OK, if i can get a hold of that email and i will do my best, i will post it on the site, how,s that now! You could,nt be fairer than that now could you....

Absolutey no bother TDK. In fact please do. You can also post MR contribution which has riled you so (3rd time asking)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 09:21:57 PM
So 'TDK' your a Knight, a teacher and a referee, have you any friends at all?  You must be Elliot, McHugh, Hasson or one of those boys.  Definitely not Mathews, cause he ain't a teacher and definitely not T(oe) R(ag) from GNM, he's too stupid.  You sure have to be one of them other boys, aforementioned!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 23, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
This tread has gone to the dogs. Ignore the trolls and they will go away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on April 23, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
This tread has gone to the dogs. Ignore the trolls and they will go away.
You should get those aul tyres changed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
Quote from: SASLinger on April 23, 2009, 06:37:40 PM
Any of you guys at the late Oliver Kelly's (RIP) funeral today?  It was.  The former County Chairman got a good send off and the was a large attendance.  A lot of Antrim people there as well.

Good man. Big shock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 23, 2009, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 22, 2009, 11:44:05 PM
Ah, mixing your two aliases up. Easy done.

It certainly is.

Quote from: wesaysanchez on August 04, 2007, 10:16:09 PM
Another good win tonight, 1-0 over Ajax. Van Persie scored the winner in the 87th and was then taken out immediately after - looked serious. Ajax were extremely dirty throughout and seemed to target home-man RVP. AW lost the nut. With Adebayor out as well as this  - bad timing. Still, a second pre-season tournament trophy.

Second half coming up now on - mms://live.wm.arsenal.servecast.net/arsenal_wmlz_xx_secure_live450k

:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 23, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
this weeks predictions

wins for Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Portaferry in div 1

div2 Glenariffe and Gorts are the only certs hard to call the rest, Gaels nearly beat us last year and tir na og will give Rossa a good game up there

sarsfields Rasharkin Carey Faughs and Lamhs (they should win that league handy IMO) to win their games

bredagh st Agnes and tough one at Ballymena between them and Lamhs seconds


Loughgiel    Ballygalget    
We always get tanked up there at this stage in the season as we're doing very little physical work and the bodies will be flying and killing dead things. +10 to Loughgiel

      
Portaferry    Ballycastle
The Ports have Chris hunter back in the management team and they're going hammer and tongs at the training. I'd expect them to have too much speed for the Ballycastle lads. A crap day might keep the differential down though. +7 to the Ports.
          
Ballycran    Dunloy
The Crans are a good hurling team but lacking a bit of physique which doesn't suit their tight home pitch. Don't know much about Dunloy this year but if they haven't done a great deal of training yet which is their normal mode then might be a bit closer than normal. Not going to mention the referee in this one  ;) +2 to Dunloy

          
Cushendall    St. Johns
The Dall still have a bit of sharpness in their hurling from the winter and i'd expect them to have too much for the Johnnies who are much different proposition away from Corrigan park. +9 to the Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 24, 2009, 09:26:14 AM
JC

Cant disagree with any of those but would question the score difference in your game, where do loughgiel get their scores from is their soccer player isnt playing for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 24, 2009, 09:26:14 AM
JC

Cant disagree with any of those but would question the score difference in your game, where do loughgiel get their scores from is their soccer player isnt playing for them?

didn't realise young Liam wouldn't be fielding but i can't guarantee our wannabe bogball player will be fielding for us and we struggle to score against the better defences without him.

I'll change my prediction to +2 to Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 24, 2009, 10:22:32 AM
Why are you so bad on the road JC when you are able to match teams well in you home pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 24, 2009, 10:22:32 AM
Why are you so bad on the road JC when you are able to match teams well in you home pitch?

Too many mammies boys  ;D

Not entirely sure to be honest but most teams seem to suffer a bit when they travel away from home. i wouldn't have thought we were any worse than most but I'd be the wrong person to judge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 24, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 24, 2009, 10:22:32 AM
Why are you so bad on the road JC when you are able to match teams well in you home pitch?

Too many mammies boys  ;D

Not entirely sure to be honest but most teams seem to suffer a bit when they travel away from home. i wouldn't have thought we were any worse than most but I'd be the wrong person to judge.

We were never good enough to match the Ards teams but i will say after travelling 1hr 45 mins to the Ards peninsula you dont feel too energetic. I would say its the same for the Ballygalget players going the opposite direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 24, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
I would have thought most teams visiting you would agree it is a difficult place to come away with a win from, however there isnt that same threat on your travels. Just wondered if you had any thoughts on it.

Maybe the travelling has something to do with it alright but there is a very different temperament in the ards teams at home than on their travels.

Anybody making any strides this year or is it going to be the big three again fighting it out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 24, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 24, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
Quote from: NAG on April 24, 2009, 10:22:32 AM
Why are you so bad on the road JC when you are able to match teams well in you home pitch?

Too many mammies boys  ;D

Not entirely sure to be honest but most teams seem to suffer a bit when they travel away from home. i wouldn't have thought we were any worse than most but I'd be the wrong person to judge.
We were never good enough to match the Ards teams but i will say after travelling 1hr 45 mins to the Ards peninsula you dont feel too energetic. I would say its the same for the Ballygalget players going the opposite direction.
Some boys just didn't put in the correct preparation the day before travelling down the peninsula for a match  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 24, 2009, 01:38:34 PM
As for teams looking to break into the usual 3 in Antrim i don't see who can make the breakthrough

Ballycastle have yet to build on their u21 victory of a few years but would perhaps seem the most likely given their young talent,what is the story with St Johns, plenty of recent minor successes, looked like making progress last year but ended up getting chinned by Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 24, 2009, 01:41:12 PM
I think as far as the Johnnies go it seems to be a lack of structure bringing the talent through to senior level.
Disappointing to see more talent wasted in the city when they should be more than competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 24, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 23, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
this weeks predictions

wins for Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Portaferry in div 1

div2 Glenariffe and Gorts are the only certs hard to call the rest, Gaels nearly beat us last year and tir na og will give Rossa a good game up there

sarsfields Rasharkin Carey Faughs and Lamhs (they should win that league handy IMO) to win their games

bredagh st Agnes and tough one at Ballymena between them and Lamhs seconds


Loughgiel    Ballygalget    
We always get tanked up there at this stage in the season as we're doing very little physical work and the bodies will be flying and killing dead things. +10 to Loughgiel

      
Portaferry    Ballycastle
The Ports have Chris hunter back in the management team and they're going hammer and tongs at the training. I'd expect them to have too much speed for the Ballycastle lads. A crap day might keep the differential down though. +7 to the Ports.
          
Ballycran    Dunloy
The Crans are a good hurling team but lacking a bit of physique which doesn't suit their tight home pitch. Don't know much about Dunloy this year but if they haven't done a great deal of training yet which is their normal mode then might be a bit closer than normal. Not going to mention the referee in this one  ;) +2 to Dunloy

          
Cushendall    St. Johns
The Dall still have a bit of sharpness in their hurling from the winter and i'd expect them to have too much for the Johnnies who are much different proposition away from Corrigan park. +9 to the Dall

agree with the loughgiel score, shams will want to set out a marker for the season.
I can honestly see the town getting beat by more than 7 points, they dont travel well, its sad but true. But Antrim hurling needs for the town to get there act together to improve the standard of championship...
Agree the cran used the big pitch up in ballycastle very well, However i do fancy them to beat dunloy this time.
I'd add another half dozen points to the dalls score in this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 24, 2009, 09:34:22 PM
Disagree with youngfella about the Cdall St Johns result. Johnies are traditionally very fit at this time of year and surprise a few teams. They wil not surprise Cdall due to the winter campaign but they will not be hammered either. ( Cue egg on face with Dall winning by 20+ point) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 25, 2009, 12:00:49 AM
Quote from: youngfella on April 24, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 23, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
this weeks predictions

wins for Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Portaferry in div 1

div2 Glenariffe and Gorts are the only certs hard to call the rest, Gaels nearly beat us last year and tir na og will give Rossa a good game up there

sarsfields Rasharkin Carey Faughs and Lamhs (they should win that league handy IMO) to win their games

bredagh st Agnes and tough one at Ballymena between them and Lamhs seconds


Loughgiel    Ballygalget    
We always get tanked up there at this stage in the season as we're doing very little physical work and the bodies will be flying and killing dead things. +10 to Loughgiel

      
Portaferry    Ballycastle
The Ports have Chris hunter back in the management team and they're going hammer and tongs at the training. I'd expect them to have too much speed for the Ballycastle lads. A crap day might keep the differential down though. +7 to the Ports.
          
Ballycran    Dunloy
The Crans are a good hurling team but lacking a bit of physique which doesn't suit their tight home pitch. Don't know much about Dunloy this year but if they haven't done a great deal of training yet which is their normal mode then might be a bit closer than normal. Not going to mention the referee in this one  ;) +2 to Dunloy

          
Cushendall    St. Johns
The Dall still have a bit of sharpness in their hurling from the winter and i'd expect them to have too much for the Johnnies who are much different proposition away from Corrigan park. +9 to the Dall

agree with the loughgiel score, shams will want to set out a marker for the season.
I can honestly see the town getting beat by more than 7 points, they dont travel well, its sad but true. But Antrim hurling needs for the town to get there act together to improve the standard of championship...
Agree the cran used the big pitch up in ballycastle very well, However i do fancy them to beat dunloy this time.
I'd add another half dozen points to the dalls score in this game.

First game of the year of course but did like the potential in Ballycran against Ballycastle. Granted Ballycastle were v poor on the day but when they got to within a point of the Cran 10 mins in to the 2nd half i thouht there was a game on but Ballycran scored 4 points in a row and that was that. Good pacey hurlers and big Mick Braniff too  ::) in the forward line. And they were missing McGourty so they will cause teams problems. A year in Div 2 has certainly done them no harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 26, 2009, 06:51:49 PM
Loughgiel  2-18 0-7 Ballygalget  Loughgiel Shamrocks   
Portaferry  0-12 1-8 Ballycastle  Portaferry   
Ballycran  1-13 3-8 Dunloy  Ballycran   
Cushendall  2-18 2-9 St. Johns  Cushendall   
Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Gort Na Mona  4-15 0-7 Shane O Neills  Gort Na Mona   
Tir na Nog  1-12 0-9 Rossa  Tir na Nog   
St. Galls  4-14 0-13 Gaeil Chluana  St. Galls   
Antrim Div 4 A Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Bredagh  0-8 1-9 Glenravel  Bredagh   
St. Galls  2-6 4-15 St. Agnes  St. Galls   
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Loughgiel  2-13 0-8 Ballygalget  Loughgiel Shamrocks   
Portaferry  2-14 1-2 Ballycastle  Portaferry   
Cushendall  4-12 0-5 St. Johns  Cushendall   
Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St. Teresas  0-14 0-15 Carey Faughs  St. Teresas   
Lamh Dhearg 2 1-13 4-10 St. Brigids B Lamh Dhearg   
Cushendun  4-7 2-8 Rasharkin  Cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 26, 2009, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 23, 2009, 07:28:27 PM
this weeks predictions

wins for Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Portaferry in div 1

div2 Glenariffe and Gorts are the only certs hard to call the rest, Gaels nearly beat us last year and tir na og will give Rossa a good game up there

sarsfields Rasharkin Carey Faughs and Lamhs (they should win that league handy IMO) to win their games

bredagh st Agnes and tough one at Ballymena between them and Lamhs seconds


Loughgiel    Ballygalget    
We always get tanked up there at this stage in the season as we're doing very little physical work and the bodies will be flying and killing dead things. +10 to Loughgiel

      
Portaferry    Ballycastle
The Ports have Chris hunter back in the management team and they're going hammer and tongs at the training. I'd expect them to have too much speed for the Ballycastle lads. A crap day might keep the differential down though. +7 to the Ports.
          
Ballycran    Dunloy
The Crans are a good hurling team but lacking a bit of physique which doesn't suit their tight home pitch. Don't know much about Dunloy this year but if they haven't done a great deal of training yet which is their normal mode then might be a bit closer than normal. Not going to mention the referee in this one  ;) +2 to Dunloy

          
Cushendall    St. Johns
The Dall still have a bit of sharpness in their hurling from the winter and i'd expect them to have too much for the Johnnies who are much different proposition away from Corrigan park. +9 to the Dall
Some decent shouts there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 26, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
aye Johnny waas spot on with those predictions. the Dall usually don't turn up till the last few league games so that doesn't bode well for the others in Championship Loughgiel doing their usual and Dunloy struggling, match report please Skull
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 26, 2009, 10:53:13 PM
Aye struggled alright milltown, but finished strong. Ballycran were very up for the game and played at a very intense pace, which made for an entertaining game competitive game regardless of the low scoreline. With Simon Wilson pulling the strings for them in the first half especially and our poor use of the ball and wides they went in 5 points up at half time. Second half wasn't much better for us from a scoring perpective. Some argy bargy as tempers rose at a stage but was handbags. WIth 10 to go we were 4 down but manged to score 2-3 in that period (the only time we looked like ourselves the whole game). Good performances from all the backs IMO who worked hard throughout. Ballycran won the midfield battle mainly due to Wilsons solid contribution. Up front we hit shocking wides but in "most" places the effort was there and enough class to get something from the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: youngfella on April 27, 2009, 12:26:47 AM
just eating my words.

Grand shouts by JC. THe dunloy game sounds like a clinker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 27, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
Ballycran unlucky to lose, Dunloy lucky to win.

The crans will pick up plenty of points this year if they can replicate that intensity week in week out, the biggest problem for them was all their stars (thought Wilson, CHB & No5 were particularly excellent) where in defence.  Dunloy started very lethargic, particularly in the forward line that had been functioning so well.  Good response in the last 10 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 27, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
I believe the sham-rocks had a big win yesterday and did so without JC, the 2 scullions and watson.  seems our next opponents are in flying form and a few of thse good minors must be making an impression
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 27, 2009, 10:11:33 AM
Max think you have to mix in a bit of our earlier discussion about how bad ballygalget are on their travels or maybe you are starting the kidology a bit early this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 10:20:38 AM
aye me thinks that also but i doubt the Shamrocks look in on "our" affairs on this board.

thought the referee who did our game at the weekend was spot on. McAuley

Glenariffe scored heavily on Sunday night, i take it you missed it Minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 27, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Not at all, Ballygalget were in an Ulster Final last year so to be beating them comprehensively without the backbone of your team is no mean feat.  Granted they don't seem to travel well, and i think i saw Magic Johnston at our game with Ballycran.

Deccy Magee refereed the Dunloy game and did a fair job, took plenty of abuse from the Cran line after the match, sometimes think his reputation is going before him

Also see Cloughmills had a big result against Lamh Dearg,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 27, 2009, 10:31:39 AM
Did I head right that the county are going to be playing Limerick in a friendly this weekend in Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 27, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: maxpower on April 27, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Not at all, Ballygalget were in an Ulster Final last year so to be beating them comprehensively without the backbone of your team is no mean feat.  Granted they don't seem to travel well, and i think i saw Magic Johnston at our game with Ballycran.

Deccy Magee refereed the Dunloy game and did a fair job, took plenty of abuse from the Cran line after the match, sometimes think his reputation is going before him

Also see Cloughmills had a big result against Lamh Dearg,

We're struggling to fill key positions on our team currently and the loss of Barry Coulter in the forwards is proving a hard position to fill. Barry's best years were behind him a good while ago but he knew how to make space for his colleagues and had that bit of leadership which is sorely lacking.
Big Magic for all his talent is a hoor to manage with lads filling his head full of shite. He was kinda afraid of Gerard Monan so did as he was told and even at that Gerard Monan made him sit on the bench if he failed to train or turn up for the previous game, I'm not sure how the new management are going to work him as we might be desperate to get points on the board very very soon.

17 points is a big tanking in anyones books so there'll be blood and snotters aplenty this tuesday night!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 27, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 10:20:38 AM
aye me thinks that also but i doubt the Shamrocks look in on "our" affairs on this board.

thought the referee who did our game at the weekend was spot on. McAuley

Glenariffe scored heavily on Sunday night, i take it you missed it Minder

Aye they did, St Pauls are atrocious by all accounts. There are going to be a few hammerings in Div 2 this year. Rossa are going well i see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 12:32:57 PM
i believe they had a club wedding and maybe this didn't help preparations. i expect a battle next sunday for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 27, 2009, 12:38:43 PM
A wedding in the Carrickdale on Saturday left St.Pauls behind the 8 ball in Waterfoot on Sunday. Heard they were trying to get the game put off. They can be atrocious but potentially decent enough when the mood takes them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 27, 2009, 01:04:58 PM
Surprised at that result in your game against Clooney MR - what kind of game was it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 02:18:04 PM
surprised, why?

Clooney Gaels are a very good team. they work really hard and the game was tight. we pulled away in the second half, got a couple of goals but they will take points of other teams for sure.

seems the Sambo gad the boys down in Tullymore forrest chopping down trees and carrying logs up rivers. the county boys came back very sore and underperformed. while great craic for the team and i'm sure it is a great idea. just unsure of the timing with All County games the next day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 27, 2009, 02:52:29 PM
MR
I am pretty sure that was the intention to leave the boys tired enough that most didnt even want to play the next day and if they did their performance would be below par. Again I am questioning the fixing of the Limerick game on the saturday night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
this saturday night? again before all county games on a sunday!!!!!!

i believe the Dall boys were also wrecked because of the session. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 27, 2009, 03:17:34 PM
Yeah this saturday night before the games on sunday.

McCarthy must be looking another team building weekend in the glens, so I would avoid Ballycastle or Cushendall on Friday and Saturday nights  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 03:20:52 PM
also just heard Nag that they are playing Clare in Dublin one saturday and a weekend away is also being arranged. hope its during the football weekends. though are lads are dual players so the management wont be fussed on that either.

game against Limerick is in Ballycastle sat night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 27, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on April 27, 2009, 03:16:21 PM
Wasn't I a silly little boy didn't even know this existed here - good tip off Skull!!  Anyway, my post was...

Division 1 already taking its familiar shape by the looks of things with Ballycran more than holding their own after going up last year.  Who will be the strugglers?  St John's haven't made the greatest of starts, neither have Ballygalget and Ballycastle; teams like that will know that its vital to get wins at this time of the year to make sure you stay up.  My money would be on either Ballycastle or St John's to take the plunge.  Am i wrong?

Division 2 has started too (my league) and surprisingly after a great Ulster hurling campaign, Rossa have been beaten twice which could cost them dearly at the end of the year.  I thought they would have flown at this league this year but it doesn't seem to be the case.  Glenarrif looking really strong and probably favourites for the league.  It'll be a good league this year all the same with Glenarm and St Pauls looking to be the boys who will be on the receiving end of some serious tankings (maybe not St Pauls as much as Glenarm).  St Galls i reckon will be the other team to watch and will have their sights set on a big hurlign year for their club with hopefully an IHC and All Ireland run to go for.  We (Gorts) have been hurling well enough in the UHL and have only played one match v Glenarm but our south Antrim team would have beaten them badly!!  FOr Division 2 though, i'd say its between St Galls and Glenarrif

I have heard some of the St Galls players are not happy behind the scenes, they feel training has been poor and are unsure if their manager has the experience to mount a decent challenge to win Division 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 27, 2009, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on April 27, 2009, 03:16:21 PM
Wasn't I a silly little boy didn't even know this existed here - good tip off Skull!!  Anyway, my post was...

Division 1 already taking its familiar shape by the looks of things with Ballycran more than holding their own after going up last year.  Who will be the strugglers?  St John's haven't made the greatest of starts, neither have Ballygalget and Ballycastle; teams like that will know that its vital to get wins at this time of the year to make sure you stay up.  My money would be on either Ballycastle or St John's to take the plunge.  Am i wrong?

Division 2 has started too (my league) and surprisingly after a great Ulster hurling campaign, Rossa have been beaten twice which could cost them dearly at the end of the year.  I thought they would have flown at this league this year but it doesn't seem to be the case.  Glenarrif looking really strong and probably favourites for the league.  It'll be a good league this year all the same with Glenarm and St Pauls looking to be the boys who will be on the receiving end of some serious tankings (maybe not St Pauls as much as Glenarm).  St Galls i reckon will be the other team to watch and will have their sights set on a big hurlign year for their club with hopefully an IHC and All Ireland run to go for.  We (Gorts) have been hurling well enough in the UHL and have only played one match v Glenarm but our south Antrim team would have beaten them badly!!  FOr Division 2 though, i'd say its between St Galls and Glenarrif

I have heard some of the St Galls players are not happy behind the scenes, they feel training has been poor and are unsure if their manager has the experience to mount a decent challenge to win Division 2.

aye we are way off the mark Minder, we've been beat by Armagh Cuchulain's and a second stream Balinascreen. going to mount a challenge next year with a settled team and a new manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 27, 2009, 04:23:02 PM
i think, to be fair antrim need these games to prepare against dublin. if they are to play clare, limerick and a weekend away, one complaint we cant have is that the county management are not preparing well for the game. would be worst cries if we went 7 or so weeks without any decent opposition. i can see where most of you are coming from but at least games aren't being called off for the rest of the hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 04:37:50 PM
granted Colonel, and as long as it does not "burn out" players then great. 6 weeks till Dublin, if the boys are playing club games and weekends away i hope they are not spent beforehand.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on April 28, 2009, 09:17:10 AM
Minder

I have heard some of the St Galls players are not happy behind the scenes, they feel training has been poor and are unsure if their manager has the experience to mount a decent challenge to win Division 2.

Last timed i looked the management was the same management that took us into div 1 and kept us there for 3 years and also took us to a SHC semi final, so i wouldn't be to sure about your sources minder.

I believe the st galls senior hurlers will be giving it a seriously challenge on all fronts IHC+Div2.

I believe that rossa have it all to do, and we will probably be fighting it out with glenarrif (always super games always a point or two in it)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 28, 2009, 10:05:05 AM
Signum

Think Minder was on the wind up.

I know the boys need the preparation for the Dublin game and I know there has to be a happy medium. But players turning up tired and pissed off on a sunday for an important league game isnt the answer for the club either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 28, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
where's nipper this year? any time i ever saw hm for the gorts he was dissappointing anyway. over hyped in my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on April 29, 2009, 08:44:16 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on April 27, 2009, 03:16:21 PM
Wasn't I a silly little boy didn't even know this existed here - good tip off Skull!!  Anyway, my post was...

Division 1 already taking its familiar shape by the looks of things with Ballycran more than holding their own after going up last year.  Who will be the strugglers?  St John's haven't made the greatest of starts, neither have Ballygalget and Ballycastle; teams like that will know that its vital to get wins at this time of the year to make sure you stay up.  My money would be on either Ballycastle or St John's to take the plunge.  Am i wrong?

Division 2 has started too (my league) and surprisingly after a great Ulster hurling campaign, Rossa have been beaten twice which could cost them dearly at the end of the year.  I thought they would have flown at this league this year but it doesn't seem to be the case.  Glenarrif looking really strong and probably favourites for the league.  It'll be a good league this year all the same with Glenarm and St Pauls looking to be the boys who will be on the receiving end of some serious tankings (maybe not St Pauls as much as Glenarm).  St Galls i reckon will be the other team to watch and will have their sights set on a big hurlign year for their club with hopefully an IHC and All Ireland run to go for.  We (Gorts) have been hurling well enough in the UHL and have only played one match v Glenarm but our south Antrim team would have beaten them badly!!  FOr Division 2 though, i'd say its between St Galls and Glenarrif

True, we were always going to find it tough this year, but we have picked up so many injuries in the past 3 weeks to makes things that much harder for a small panel like ours.  That and a few other internal issues have put our season in chaos already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on April 29, 2009, 09:08:39 AM
look i totally agree i think this league will be very very close, teams will be taking points off each other, all i said is that we have two goals which i am sure every other team has. certainly not taking any teams for granted we have played against a lot of the teams in Div 2 over the years and previous experience tells us not to underestimate them.

Rossa?????? terrible start but i am sure all the belfast teams games (against each other) will be like derby's St pauls Gort Rossa no friendship on the pitch. Not saying the others games won't

Are the South,North and South West teams going ahead for senior championship, i heard the south antrim team is going ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Teachtaire on April 29, 2009, 10:44:23 AM
If the South Antrim team does go ahead are those invloved unable to play with their clubs? IE An Aggies man playing in the SA team in senior championship, is he still able to play Championship for the Aggies?

Who will be managing the SA team?

What value is there in fielding such a team? Let's face it, they'll not get too far so what's the point?

Is not a waste of time, effort and money?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 29, 2009, 10:58:09 AM
If they are done properly they wont be.

No as far as I understand it they will still be eligible for their clubs in their respective championships.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 29, 2009, 12:16:46 PM

North Antrim and SW both entering a team, although i don't know their managers. This is a good idea as a player can still play with his club an get the chance to play in the senior championship. This in turn will in turn stop the Belfast clubs IE Johnnies, Rossa poaching players with promises of gold , silver and senior hurling. A wee bird told me this morning that a county player left the panel last night, daddy to hard to listen to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.

On that point.

Are there any intermediate clubs out there who have well defined aspiration/plans to become a senior club and progress from there? Or has the need for any sort of silverware damped the enthusiasim to raise standards to the higher level?  Not convinced there are any out there that have any such plan at the minute. Am I wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 29, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Skull

Good point, in all seriousness I dont think that there are any clubs out the making a genuine push to break the monoply of the big three teams at senior level. To me no one is going that extra mile to close the gap there seems to be a serious apathy among the clubs. Where is the hurling equivalent of St Brigids coming from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 29, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 29, 2009, 12:16:46 PM

North Antrim and SW both entering a team, although i don't know their managers. This is a good idea as a player can still play with his club an get the chance to play in the senior championship. This in turn will in turn stop the Belfast clubs IE Johnnies, Rossa poaching players with promises of gold , silver and senior hurling. A wee bird told me this morning that a county player left the panel last night, daddy to hard to listen to.

Terry Jr or Woody Jr ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 29, 2009, 03:24:51 PM
Silly me i forget they both got the sons on the panel. Terry jnr
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on April 29, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
Dont worry the word is even though they have a panel of 25-30 committed players and that is the main thing they are going around asking clubs if they could have more players to join the panel! Not so settled after 3 years after all!  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 29, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.

On that point.

Are there any intermediate clubs out there who have well defined aspiration/plans to become a senior club and progress from there? Or has the need for any sort of silverware damped the enthusiasim to raise standards to the higher level?  Not convinced there are any out there that have any such plan at the minute. Am I wrong?

Wel whoever they are they sure aint Armoy ??? On a more serious note Gort Na Mona did manage to get to a minor final last year which suggests they are putting in a decent effort and in fairness to them Cushendun have been in a senior championship final this decade something which Ballycastle or St Johns have not managed. I know Cushendun have gone backwards since then but at least they were there on the back of the St Pats minor team from a few years ago. At a lower level Cloughmills and Rasharkin are both making headway transforming themselves from Junior to intermediate clubs and Clooney Gaels have already achieved this. Due to the high scoring/ high skill level in hurling I believe it is harder to move up the grades than in football. 15 super fit super commited club footballers could win a lot of matches ( up to a certain level), in hurling I believe it takes years of coaching from U-8 right up through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: NAG on April 29, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
Dont worry the word is even though they have a panel of 25-30 committed players and that is the main thing they are going around asking clubs if they could have more players to join the panel! Not so settled after 3 years after all!  :(

are you talking about the South Antrim select? i doubt that some clubs will be wanting their players involved due to the timing of the games. intermed. championship is only days apart from the senior championship. unfair on players and their clubs should they get injured while playing for the select team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 30, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
For anyone who wants to kill time at work, the 1991 semi between Down and Cork is now on youtube along with the 1993 semi against Kilkenny (the one that got away!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2009, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 30, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
For anyone who wants to kill time at work, the 1991 semi between Down and Cork is now on youtube along with the 1993 semi against Kilkenny (the one that got away!)
I think Down and Cork was '92 Cloot when Mc Grattan got an All Star that year, and the one that got away with Kilkenny was '91, we played them in '93 alright but got hammered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 30, 2009, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 30, 2009, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 30, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
For anyone who wants to kill time at work, the 1991 semi between Down and Cork is now on youtube along with the 1993 semi against Kilkenny (the one that got away!)
I think Down and Cork was '92 Cloot when Mc Grattan got an All Star that year, and the one that got away with Kilkenny was '91, we played them in '93 alright but got hammered

Jeez Minder, you are quite right. What can I say - long day at work (surfing the net!). "From Tallow" (the lad who has put them up) has it down as 1991, but that's no excuse on my part.

1990 was us against Cork where Big Neilly made the save of the season;

1991 was the one that got away;

1992 was Down against Cork; and

1993 was where we were 3 points up at half time and got blown away by KK in the second half.

Profuse apologies.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 30, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 29, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.

On that point.

Are there any intermediate clubs out there who have well defined aspiration/plans to become a senior club and progress from there? Or has the need for any sort of silverware damped the enthusiasim to raise standards to the higher level?  Not convinced there are any out there that have any such plan at the minute. Am I wrong?

Wel whoever they are they sure aint Armoy ??? On a more serious note Gort Na Mona did manage to get to a minor final last year which suggests they are putting in a decent effort and in fairness to them Cushendun have been in a senior championship final this decade something which Ballycastle or St Johns have not managed. I know Cushendun have gone backwards since then but at least they were there on the back of the St Pats minor team from a few years ago. At a lower level Cloughmills and Rasharkin are both making headway transforming themselves from Junior to intermediate clubs and Clooney Gaels have already achieved this. Due to the high scoring/ high skill level in hurling I believe it is harder to move up the grades than in football. 15 super fit super commited club footballers could win a lot of matches ( up to a certain level), in hurling I believe it takes years of coaching from U-8 right up through.

I am surprised at you scb, you usually seem to be spot on when it comes to your history of matches in Antrim but i think you will find that Ballycastle did play in the county final in this decade and it was after Cushendun made it to the final in 2000. 2001 was the year in case your wondering and Dunloy came from 6 back at half time to win by 3 or 4.

Nice touch by Justin McCarthy again bringing his team up to Antrim in preparation for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on April 30, 2009, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 30, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 29, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.

On that point.

Are there any intermediate clubs out there who have well defined aspiration/plans to become a senior club and progress from there? Or has the need for any sort of silverware damped the enthusiasim to raise standards to the higher level?  Not convinced there are any out there that have any such plan at the minute. Am I wrong?

Wel whoever they are they sure aint Armoy ??? On a more serious note Gort Na Mona did manage to get to a minor final last year which suggests they are putting in a decent effort and in fairness to them Cushendun have been in a senior championship final this decade something which Ballycastle or St Johns have not managed. I know Cushendun have gone backwards since then but at least they were there on the back of the St Pats minor team from a few years ago. At a lower level Cloughmills and Rasharkin are both making headway transforming themselves from Junior to intermediate clubs and Clooney Gaels have already achieved this. Due to the high scoring/ high skill level in hurling I believe it is harder to move up the grades than in football. 15 super fit super commited club footballers could win a lot of matches ( up to a certain level), in hurling I believe it takes years of coaching from U-8 right up through.

I am surprised at you scb, you usually seem to be spot on when it comes to your history of matches in Antrim but i think you will find that Ballycastle did play in the county final in this decade and it was after Cushendun made it to the final in 2000. 2001 was the year in case your wondering and Dunloy came from 6 back at half time to win by 3 or 4.

Nice touch by Justin McCarthy again bringing his team up to Antrim in preparation for the championship.


and our minors got to the hurling final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2009, 08:25:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 03:20:52 PM
also just heard Nag that they are playing Clare in Dublin one saturday and a weekend away is also being arranged. hope its during the football weekends. though are lads are dual players so the management wont be fussed on that either.

game against Limerick is in Ballycastle sat night

I'm hearing on the grapevine that Down are also playing Limerick up in Ballycastle on saturday night and as a result ourselves and Ballycran have brought our ACHL game forward to 7.00pm tonight.
Can any of you confirm whether that's true?

Maybe Justin is lining his first 15 out against Antrim with his reserves playing Down on another pitch at the same time!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2009, 08:25:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on April 27, 2009, 03:20:52 PM
also just heard Nag that they are playing Clare in Dublin one saturday and a weekend away is also being arranged. hope its during the football weekends. though are lads are dual players so the management wont be fussed on that either.

game against Limerick is in Ballycastle sat night

I'm hearing on the grapevine that Down are also playing Limerick up in Ballycastle on saturday night and as a result ourselves and Ballycran have brought our ACHL game forward to 7.00pm tonight.
Can any of you confirm whether that's true?

Maybe Justin is lining his first 15 out against Antrim with his reserves playing Down on another pitch at the same time!



On Antrim website it says the matches are at 2.15pm v Down, and 4pm v Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 01, 2009, 09:54:40 AM
I think it would it would be wiser if Justin played his own res as neither of the other two teams will give Limerick a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: JamesH on May 01, 2009, 09:54:40 AM
I think it would it would be wiser if Justin played his own res as neither of the other two teams will give Limerick a game.

It depends how much booze the Limerick lads have on Friday, mind you that is taking a leap of faith that our boys wouldnt be drinking............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 01, 2009, 10:00:27 AM
I heard last night the searlas out for a few weeks with a broken hand, and Shane def left the panel, lack of Man/Daddy management skills.
Why would our boys be off the drink? is that not now a built in training session, Thur/Friday night at the Bot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2009, 11:30:34 AM
We're struggling badly with injuries in particular with our forwards so the Crans just might get a win over us tonight but if that rain keeps up I can see our pitch being unplayable.

What's the other games on sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 01, 2009, 01:13:03 PM
Has there been much rain down your part of the country, been a grand couple of days here. 

I have to say i was impressed with Ballycran last week, as indeed i was when we meet in the Ulster Championship a few years back, think when they get McGourty back they'll be hard to watch.  What of the young Ennis who ruptured his knee, any chance of him making a return?

Understand completely the County need there challenge matches to prepare for the Dublin game, but it does take something off the round of Antrim fixtures, it might be too much to ask lads to play a 70 minute game on Sat and then ACHL match on Sunday.  I think MR had a point with last weeks heavy session showing on some players on Sunday.

Anyone for the game on Saturday,

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 01, 2009, 09:51:01 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 30, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on April 29, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2009, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 29, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 29, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Quick question:

In antrim if you win the Intermediate champonship can you play in it the year after or do you have to go up a grade to senior?

You can play in it the year after as Gort Na Mona have won it for the last 11 years.

On that point.

Are there any intermediate clubs out there who have well defined aspiration/plans to become a senior club and progress from there? Or has the need for any sort of silverware damped the enthusiasim to raise standards to the higher level?  Not convinced there are any out there that have any such plan at the minute. Am I wrong?

Wel whoever they are they sure aint Armoy ??? On a more serious note Gort Na Mona did manage to get to a minor final last year which suggests they are putting in a decent effort and in fairness to them Cushendun have been in a senior championship final this decade something which Ballycastle or St Johns have not managed. I know Cushendun have gone backwards since then but at least they were there on the back of the St Pats minor team from a few years ago. At a lower level Cloughmills and Rasharkin are both making headway transforming themselves from Junior to intermediate clubs and Clooney Gaels have already achieved this. Due to the high scoring/ high skill level in hurling I believe it is harder to move up the grades than in football. 15 super fit super commited club footballers could win a lot of matches ( up to a certain level), in hurling I believe it takes years of coaching from U-8 right up through.

I am surprised at you scb, you usually seem to be spot on when it comes to your history of matches in Antrim but i think you will find that Ballycastle did play in the county final in this decade and it was after Cushendun made it to the final in 2000. 2001 was the year in case your wondering and Dunloy came from 6 back at half time to win by 3 or 4.

Nice touch by Justin McCarthy again bringing his team up to Antrim in preparation for the championship.


Fair cop did not do my research goes to the back of the class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 01, 2009, 11:10:30 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/hurlingphotos001.jpg) Yea Justin had good time for Antrim hurling and when was asked to manage them by old Nial Patterson he warmed to him so much that he couldn't refuse. He made many friends and keeps the connection.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/GAA%20Pics/HG1P7173.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/GAA%20Pics/HG1P7195.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/GAA%20Pics/HG1P7164.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/GAA%20Pics/HG1P7145.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 11:26:00 PM
 :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 11:37:16 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Spirit of 94 on May 01, 2009, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 11:37:16 PM
we played Rossa a few years ago on our pitch and we were some points up near the end. the manager went over to get the ball and Aidan for some reason wanted to fight with him. I'm standing there thinking how bizare that the principle of a local school could come out with such language and be so disrespectful. but sure we won the match and turned round to shake hands and he was gone in his car and up the lane.

no one hate losing worse than me but he really took the biscut

Did you go to his skool?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 01, 2009, 11:59:13 PM
no, i didn't go to school

thats why i'm not wise ;)

chill hardstation, never said anything bad just told you something about a game we played against Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 12:03:15 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2009, 11:57:25 PM
You missed 'principle'.

Principal, principal, principal, principal.

Living on the streets is killing me, I'll have to work on my English otherwise I'm doomed :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 12:16:49 AM
  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 12:32:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 02, 2009, 12:07:05 AM
You sound like those boyos that came on here and gave you a hard time. What has his job got to do with it?

Yes, he can be an slabbering wee ballix at times and gets worked up very easy but anyone who knows him, other than on the hurling field, will tell you that he's dead on.

I'd have a lot of time for him. A lot more time than any man who ever graced De La Salle Park.

i'm just agreeing with ya, calm done.

eddie donnelly was the best player in that photo. and having met and trained with the guy many years ago thats my assessment of him

as for you having a lot of time for him, well grand we all have the same opinion of "greats" of our club. no fun with ya tonight ???

ya couldn't catch me silly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seth on May 02, 2009, 07:07:38 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 12:32:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 02, 2009, 12:07:05 AM
You sound like those boyos that came on here and gave you a hard time. What has his job got to do with it?

Yes, he can be an slabbering wee ballix at times and gets worked up very easy but anyone who knows him, other than on the hurling field, will tell you that he's dead on.

I'd have a lot of time for him. A lot more time than any man who ever graced De La Salle Park.

i'm just agreeing with ya, calm done.

eddie donnelly was the best player in that photo. and having met and trained with the guy many years ago thats my assessment of him

as for you having a lot of time for him, well grand we all have the same opinion of "greats" of our club. no fun with ya tonight ???

ya couldn't catch me silly

You may have met the man MR, but from what i hear you would have never played against him or some of the others in that photo, you where never at that level of skill or ability.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
What way did it work in those days Seth, was there a skills competition before each game to gauge if a player has the "ability" to play against the opposition? Another reason i dont think Milltown would have played any of those fellas is they would be around the 60 mark. Our chairman Niall Wheeler,who was a replacement All Star, has lost a bit of hair from that photo but other than that he hasnt changed much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 10:06:04 AM
Seth hi you being new to the board ;)

Eddie lived in Belfast while he was bank manager of the Northern, him and his son (Joe i think his name was) trained with us, Eddie must have been around 40 as you say he is about 60 now. so while i never seen him or played against him in competition (i did play against the others though) when he was in his prime, i did get a chance to see his skills every Tues night. even at forty he had some pace and strength and his stick work was top drawer.

i never mentioned my skill but i did win a skills competition when i was 12. well it was against my little brother he was 4 at the time, i still cherish that medal me da gave me afterwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 02, 2009, 10:28:49 AM
can anyone name the team from 1970
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 02, 2009, 10:28:49 AM
can anyone name the team from 1970
I think that photo was in Justin Mc Carthys autobiography "Hooked".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
I think Seth believes in reincarnation ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 06:02:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2009, 05:31:16 PM
I think Seth believes in reincarnation ;)
What are you talking about Tony, he only has one post. . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 02, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
Any word on the Limerick game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 02, 2009, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 02, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
Any word on the Limerick game?

Just seen the score on the county website - 1 17 each after us being up 8 at half time with a strong breeze. Any one actually at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 02, 2009, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 02, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
Any word on the Limerick game?

Just seen the score on the county website - 1 17 each after us being up 8 at half time with a strong breeze. Any one actually at it?
Just talking to my mate there (my only one) and he said it was the biggest pile of shite and doesent know why Limerick bothered as they looked to be on the beer last night. He reckoned neither team would have got anything out of it. He said CJ showed up well. Down couldnt get a team gathered up for the first game. He also said he heard Limerick were supposed to stay in the Marine but it wasnt "up to scratch" so decamped to the Comfort Inn in that Gaa stronghold Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
comfort inn is dire Marine is better by far. Anyway last time McCarthy brought a team to play Antrim it was also a draw.

any other reports other than your "mate" minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 10:54:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
comfort inn is dire Marine is better by far. Anyway last time McCarthy brought a team to play Antrim it was also a draw.

any other reports other than your "mate" minder?

And they got beat out the gate by Cork the next week in championship when Dinny said Corcoran and Niall Mc Carthy were pish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
but they were shite ;)

from the county website

senior Challenge Match: Antrim 1.17 Limerick 1.17
02 May 2009
Played in blustery conditions in Paric MacUilin, Antrim and Limerick served up a fine exhibition of hurling in this challenge match today. 

Leading by 8 points at half-time having played with a strong breeze, Antrim faced a resilient come-back from the Treaty Men but deservedly held on for a draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2009, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
but they were shite ;)

from the county website

senior Challenge Match: Antrim 1.17 Limerick 1.17
02 May 2009
Played in blustery conditions in Paric MacUilin, Antrim and Limerick served up a fine exhibition of hurling in this challenge match today. 

Leading by 8 points at half-time having played with a strong breeze, Antrim faced a resilient come-back from the Treaty Men but deservedly held on for a draw.

My match report was slightly different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
clooney Gaels will give youse a game this sunday. don't under estimate them. good wee team and pretty fit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 03, 2009, 12:10:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 02, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
clooney Gaels will give youse a game this sunday. don't under estimate them. good wee team and pretty fit
They couldnt be that good,a pile of clowns beat them last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 03, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
got a new report Minder:

Played in blustery conditions in Paric MacUilin, Antrim and Limerick served up a fine exhibition of hurling in this senior challenge match today. 
With wind advantage in the opening half Antrim made a bright start and two points from debutant CJ McGourty and points apiece by Cormac Donnelly, PJ O'Connell and Neil McAuley gave the home side a four point cushion.
Boosted by a fine individual goal by Andrew O'Shaughnessy Limerick came back to level but Antrim went ahead again when Neill McManus hit a long range point, followed by a well taken goal and as they continued to dominate they added further points through McGill (2) and Sean Delargy to open up a 1-11 to 1-4 interval lead.
Limerick were dominant after the change of ends and seven point to just one reply by CJ McGourty saw them close to within a point. Antrim replied with points from Karl Stewart (65) and CJ McGourty but two O'Shaughney points and one from over ninety yards by Gavin Moloney saw the visitors take the lead with just five minute left for play.
To their credit Antrim came again and points from Karl Stewart and Paddy McGill put them a point clear, before O'Shaughnessy tied things up for the final time with a point in the seventieth minute.
ANTRIM – Chris O'Connell, Ciaran McGourty, Neil McGarry, Arran Graffin, Neil McAuley, Cormac Donnelly, Eddie McCloskey, PJ O'Connell, Paddy McGill, Dan McKillop, Neill McManus, Sean Delargy, CJ McGourty, Karl Stewart, Joey Scullion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 03, 2009, 12:37:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 03, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
got a new report Minder:

Played in blustery conditions in Paric MacUilin, Antrim and Limerick served up a fine exhibition of hurling in this senior challenge match today. 
With wind advantage in the opening half Antrim made a bright start and two points from debutant CJ McGourty and points apiece by Cormac Donnelly, PJ O'Connell and Neil McAuley gave the home side a four point cushion.
Boosted by a fine individual goal by Andrew O’Shaughnessy Limerick came back to level but Antrim went ahead again when Neill McManus hit a long range point, followed by a well taken goal and as they continued to dominate they added further points through McGill (2) and Sean Delargy to open up a 1-11 to 1-4 interval lead.
Limerick were dominant after the change of ends and seven point to just one reply by CJ McGourty saw them close to within a point. Antrim replied with points from Karl Stewart (65) and CJ McGourty but two O’Shaughney points and one from over ninety yards by Gavin Moloney saw the visitors take the lead with just five minute left for play.
To their credit Antrim came again and points from Karl Stewart and Paddy McGill put them a point clear, before O’Shaughnessy tied things up for the final time with a point in the seventieth minute.
ANTRIM – Chris O’Connell, Ciaran McGourty, Neil McGarry, Arran Graffin, Neil McAuley, Cormac Donnelly, Eddie McCloskey, PJ O’Connell, Paddy McGill, Dan McKillop, Neill McManus, Sean Delargy, CJ McGourty, Karl Stewart, Joey Scullion.
Hmmm the positive spin in that report has all the hallmarks of either Alastair Campbell or antrim.gaa.ie! I think the Antrim website is the last place you'd go for a subjective report on a match! I've heard Lawrence Smyth cuts out negative reports in the newspapers before the Dr. gets to read them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 03, 2009, 07:37:14 PM
From county website
Ballygalget  1-9 0-13 Ballycran  Ballygalget   
St. Johns  2-15 3-11 Portaferry  Corrigan Park   
Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St. Pauls  0-7 1-15 St. Galls  St. Pauls   
Shane O Neills  0-6 2-19 Tir na Nog  Shane ONeills   
Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Carey Faughs  1-16 2-7 Armoy  Carey Faughs   
Sarsfields 2 3-20 0-3 St. Teresas  Sarsfields   
St. Brigids B 1-16 1-11 Cushendun  St. Brigids   
Antrim Div 4 A Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
St. Endas  3-6 4-8 All Saints  St. Endas   
Antrim Div 4 B Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Mc Dermotts  1-8 4-17 Creggan Kickhams  Falls Park   
St. Brigids  2-3 1-11 Ardoyne  St. Brigids   
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Dunloy  1-12 0-8 Loughgiel  Dunloy   
Ballygalget  1-3 1-10 Ballycran  Ballygalget   
St. Johns  0-5 1-13 Portaferry  Corrigan Park   
Ballycastle  1-9 5-7 Cushendall  Ballycastle


Good win for Ballycran again, hit the ground running. St Galls seem to be going quite well Glenarm dont. Good win for Ballymena over St Endas I would have had St Endas favourites for that division. Cloughmills continue their rise through the ranks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 05, 2009, 08:48:42 AM
Totally sickened after our defeat to All Saints in a game we through away through poor defending, time for a clearout of the ould boys starting with me. The brain is still barking the right orders but the arms and legs have gone AWOL :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 05, 2009, 09:03:41 AM
ah tis hell boy when that happens

Dunloy/Loughgiel match was a bit of a damp squib of a game where the bodies ran out 3 point winners in the end. We caused them a few problems up front in the first half but stopped in the second. Encouraging in places, but it needs to be done for 60 minutes.

Reserves won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 05, 2009, 09:56:42 AM
Were boths teams full strength Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 05, 2009, 09:59:30 AM
Both team missing a few, Loughgiel without JC & Winker, Dunloy had no Rab, Woody, Paddy Richmond, Shorty or Conor Cunning.

Decent first half, loughgiel dominated the second.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 05, 2009, 10:10:49 AM
Who stood out then Max or did any one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 05, 2009, 10:16:55 AM
Hard to say, conditions weren't great, windy, starting to get dark and soft underfoot.

Never seen a team like loughgiel for changing there team. Barney from half back to full forward, Ding from corner back to centre forward, Martin Scullion from centre forward to wing back.  worked for them on Sun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 05, 2009, 10:27:26 AM
Wouldnt think that would stay that way for too much longer, cant see them lining out like that for the Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 05, 2009, 10:54:15 AM
We beat the aggies by 4 on sunday i think. tough match on wednesday against st.endas which should be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 05, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
Good win for yous BG, the Aggies are always hard to roll early in the season when they are at their fittest and most physical. Don't see us presenting much of a challenge after what we put up to an understrength B'mena side, at least there is hope with our U14s winning the D2 Ulster Feile at the weekend. We should have been D1 but I dont think we would have worked with Slaughtneil who were mighty by all accounts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 05, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 05, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
Good win for yous BG, the Aggies are always hard to roll early in the season when they are at their fittest and most physical. Don't see us presenting much of a challenge after what we put up to an understrength B'mena side, at least there is hope with our U14s winning the D2 Ulster Feile at the weekend. We should have been D1 but I dont think we would have worked with Slaughtneil who were mighty by all accounts.

Auk now come on last man,i wouldnt be falling for that too quickly.  Where you boys understrength on sunday? we have been missing a couple this year, sunday was the worst turn out to date. So im hopin our boys come back and you lot travel light.  well done to your u-14s, can only beat whats put in front of you i guess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 05, 2009, 04:14:14 PM
We'll see, yous are blessed with county standard minors which we have not and is the root cause of our downward spiral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 05, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
Where's the St Paul's pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 05, 2009, 10:28:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 05, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
The nigger in the woodpile is that they own a pitch on Boucher Road.

How come? I thought it was a council pitch. BTW thanks - i didn't realise St Pauls were next door to Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 05, 2009, 10:37:57 PM
Davitts play there an awful lot as well. Sorry I'll re-phrase that - Davitt's line out there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 05, 2009, 11:02:10 PM
watson was playing for DC tonight, hurling return maybe not far off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on May 06, 2009, 10:29:08 AM
Big game for ourselves and rossa on tonight, i say it will be really tough game in terrible conditions by the looks of things.

Rossa really need to win this or i feel they maybe out of promotion (maybe not).

Gort v St Pauls Gort should win but once again conditions derby etc

Clooney v Tir na org should be a good could go both ways

Glenarrif should win easy Sorry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 06, 2009, 01:07:31 PM
I assume Colonel was referring to the fact that Watson was playing for DC in the first leg of the Premier/championship playoff  of NI league football:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/8035012.stm
Am sure you have seen the disputes re whether the play off should be played or not.

Guessing Colonel was saying if after the next leg on Friday night DC win then Watson could be back playing for the bodies by the weekend (or the weekend after if that is when games are). If they don't win their might be a battle in the courtroom.

Shock return to the county with Liam having seen the light?? or will be be a misunderstood figure for a while more. Anyone else think of Joey Barton?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 06, 2009, 03:25:49 PM
i was told he had a broken arm, and got a beating outside the elk at easter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 06, 2009, 10:12:09 PM
Ballycran      2-14       St. John's    1-08
Ballycastle    2-05       Loughgiel    2-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 07, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
we finally got our first points last night beating the ports with a goal with almost the last puck of the ball.

2-11 to 1-13.

The prodical son returned and came on at half time and helped himself to 1-3, he might even have scored the last goal but i couldn't see from where I was and it was getting mighty dark before the end. He seems to send waves of panic amongst portaferry whenever he plays against them. If they'd stop making wholesale changes they'd probably fare better.
We still need more lads to find a bit of form especially in the forwards to take a bit of pressure of the defence who hold out for so long then capitulate

Don't know who the ref was but he was very good and dealt with the few bouts of handbags in a fair manner (Ger Robinson take note) and put some of the gobbier players in their place when the need arose. I think he's a city slicker but can't say I've seen him before, any of you ref's out there know who he was?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 07, 2009, 08:50:12 AM
Rossa beat St Galls i see, a minor shock i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on May 07, 2009, 08:55:37 AM
Rossa 4.13 Galls 4.11

well what can i say about our game.....we were just not at it. ??? ??? ???

We were missing a few players (to be honest ever team is a some stage) no excuse.

Basically rossa started of to a flyer banging in 2.04 to 0.01 in the first 5-7 mins we were always playing catch up after that. can't believe how slow we started off.  A bit of a re-gig and we final started to play some good hurling but that 9 points lead was just to much in terrible conditions. (i could barely hold my hurl at times, i also seen a few hurls flying out of boys hands trying to strike the ball)

fair play to rossa because it was a must win game for them.

We have Gorts on wed, another tough game. think the Rossa game give us the wake up call some of our players needed so it wasn't all bad news  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seth on May 07, 2009, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 07, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
we finally got our first points last night beating the ports with a goal with almost the last puck of the ball.

2-11 to 1-13.

The prodical son returned and came on at half time and helped himself to 1-3, he might even have scored the last goal but i couldn't see from where I was and it was getting mighty dark before the end. He seems to send waves of panic amongst portaferry whenever he plays against them. If they'd stop making wholesale changes they'd probably fare better.
We still need more lads to find a bit of form especially in the forwards to take a bit of pressure of the defence who hold out for so long then capitulate

Don't know who the ref was but he was very good and dealt with the few bouts of handbags in a fair manner (Ger Robinson take note) and put some of the gobbier players in their place when the need arose. I think he's a city slicker but can't say I've seen him before, any of you ref's out there know who he was?



The Ref was Garrett Duffy, St Galls man, one of MR,s Lads!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 07, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
I wasnt at it but our match with st.endas was abandoned with about 20mins to go because of a broken leg to one of their players? any word last man on how he is? hope he makes a quick recovery. how was the match up until that point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 07, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
Nothing much in it BG, was shaping up to be a game of 2 halves because of the wind then our lad broke his leg 10mins into the 2nd 1/2 during quite a light challenge, just looked like a leg tangle to me. Both teams civil and sporting which is good as I sensed abit of agro creeping in last year. Anyway always good to see a few ould faces from my younger days.
Last I heard young Kev went to theatre last night and was back in today, it was a clean break which people say is best if there is such a thing as a good break.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 08, 2009, 11:17:33 AM
Aye clean breaks are always better. hope its a speedy recovery. thought that myself last year, so its good to hear that it has gone now.  What do you make of th league anyway? who do you think will go up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 08, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
To early to tell, but I fancy Glenravel to go back up, they suffered internal politics with a hired in football manager last year which ultimately screwed both their hurling and football. All sorted now apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 08, 2009, 02:58:22 PM
aye the seconds played them last week (glenravel) i only played the first half as i was needed up at St Paul's. but they were a strong looking outfit. they would seem to be favourites.

we cant seem to compete at this level anymore. senior teams seem to be training harder than before and the standard at this level has risen considerably. chances of winning championships and competing in Ulster and beyond have made it really difficult for the second stream teams. cant get them out training as they know they will start anyway.

wasn't too long ago that our seconds were playing div 2 hurling!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 11, 2009, 10:04:16 AM
Dunloy beat Cushendall yesterday 1-15 to 0-7

both teams missing in excess of 7 players each but a decent performance from Dunloy after last week.  Few young players showing potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Any other results?

Is there any other team that anyone can think of that treats the league with more contempt than Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 11, 2009, 11:00:08 AM
Possibly Rossa, NAG.
Didn't they use to put off all their league games until the end of the season, then play a few teams at the tail end of the year, to secure their league status.
The arrival of the league cut-off date probably put paid to that tactic for a lot of teams though.
Looks like Dunloy are getting back on track, with a few players still missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 11:11:36 AM
Rossa have just been a shambles for the last few years so I dont know if I would count them in that but I do take your point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 11, 2009, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 11, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Any other results?

Is there any other team that anyone can think of that treats the league with more contempt than Cushendall?

The Dall have a talent for it, i certainly don't think any other team could go for serious runs without wins and still have the confidence when it matters in Championship.

In saying that, when they play league matches they are off a fairly decent intensity, its just they juggle the team about so much.

Chat yesterday was they had alot of retirements.  One thing thay have in abundance is Centre Half Backs, Aaron Graffin played there yesterday and as always was very good (great hands), then you could choose between Karl or McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2009, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: maxpower on May 11, 2009, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 11, 2009, 10:14:29 AM
Any other results?

Is there any other team that anyone can think of that treats the league with more contempt than Cushendall?

The Dall have a talent for it, i certainly don't think any other team could go for serious runs without wins and still have the confidence when it matters in Championship.

In saying that, when they play league matches they are off a fairly decent intensity, its just they juggle the team about so much.

Chat yesterday was they had alot of retirements.  One thing thay have in abundance is Centre Half Backs, Aaron Graffin played there yesterday and as always was very good (great hands), then you could choose between Karl or McManus.

Who has packed it in ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 11:16:16 AM
Big Jackie :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 11, 2009, 11:26:16 AM
Jaysus Minder thats a whil strap line you have on your messages!!!

I'm sure they'll be persuaded back and you often hear these things with the dall but i asked after the match where AD and Kevin Elliott were and was told they'd packed it in. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2009, 11:29:27 AM
Quote from: maxpower on May 11, 2009, 11:26:16 AM
Jaysus Minder thats a whil strap line you have on your messages!!!

I'm sure they'll be persuaded back and you often hear these things with the dall but i asked after the match where AD and Kevin Elliott were and was told they'd packed it in. 

They have a lot of "miles on the clock" but AD would only be 31 and Elliott 28ish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 11, 2009, 11:31:32 AM
Good result for Dunloy I'm sure they will be gearing there season towards one game and thats the championship final after coming so close to getting there last year.  Im not surprised Cushendall are missing a few at the minute the were hurling right up until February so probably glad of a few months of but I still see them as big favourites when championship gets going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 11, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
Anybody care to hazard a guess for the Saffrons starting line up against Dublin?  I hope Shorty can make it as he would be a big boost even for his accuracy from dead balls alone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2009, 11:45:05 AM
I think anybody who knows the local game knows that there is nothing to be taken from yesterdays match. Cushendall go out of their way at this time of year to make everyone think all is not rosy in the garden (retirements/fall outs/drink/bad attitudes etc etc) and back this up with poor league performances. Then wham bam championship comes along and they are a tight as ever with the full compliment pushing for places. Monty(s) will be there, AD will be there, Kevin Elliott will be there...even big Jack will be there when we get to the business end. Anyone who thinks different is a fool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 11, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Couldnt of put it better myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
True enough Skull

Dont think anyone could name the antrim team including S&W at the moment. Shorty doesnt look like he is going to make. Pinkie has a broken finger/ Hand as does Karl McK. Plus even if they had a full compliment god knows what team they would pick anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2009, 11:59:58 AM
On the Shorty point NAG. I was totally disgusted with what I read in Saturdays irish new. The focus should be about getting the player back to full health. Not "hoping" he is "ready" to play against Dublin. I fully expect them to have him playing a part even if he is 50% right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seth on May 11, 2009, 12:06:10 PM
Shorty is an exceptional talent and should be given all the time he needs, antrim need him for the future not the present!! Should,nt make himself available if he,s not 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 12:06:22 PM
Skull this is what I have been going on about for ages with this Management team, one of them actually claimed shorty had been in for the scan and all when he hadnt been? Now what is that all about?

I agree that the focus should be on having a young antrim hurler rehabed correctly and fit for the rest of the year, not rushed back half fit and the injury prolonged. In all seriousness bar Graffin who has improved as a player under the regime. I strain to think of one other player that has progressed. I hate being negative I really do but time to face facts.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 11, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
McManus has clearly improved as has Shorty, however since these guys were only 18 when this regime started it would be expected that they would be better players at 21. Brendan Herron is the one player that I see a big improvement in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 12:51:42 PM
SCB, do you think that was down to the management or the fact that these were the pick of the talent coming through?

Also BH is onyl getting back to the form he was in before he left the scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 11, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
R McGarry, K McGourty, Neil McGarry, Karl Stewart, PJ O'Connell.
There are 5 that have progressed, been given game time and flourished or come out of the woodword in this stewartship.
Not going to get all stars this year but would wager that at least 3, probably 4 of them will start v Dublin.

It hasn't all been rosey whatsoever but for f**k sake less than a month before the big game lets get behind what we have.
(I bought my rose tinted glasses during the sunny weekend there. I always fork out round this time of year. They generally get smashed about August time)


I do however agree that Shorty should not be rushed back. Inconsistencies in what has been said that regard have been coming clear but he is a bloody talent and are you serious that if he was a club member of yours would you not be doing ALL within your power to get him back?
As and where the line is crossed and the focus is not about making sure he is back to full health then it should be dealt with.

Agree with Seth in that as hard as it may be for Shorty to say no he should not make himself availavle if by that stage he is not 100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 11, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
...and what SCB said re McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 11, 2009, 01:23:33 PM
Cant agree with the players you have named (would argue why but dont want to get into a personal thing) Glensman but I can see your arguement.

I am behind them as well believe me they will need all the help they can get, although the result against cork yesterday for dublin should give them some heart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 11, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
mcmanus has always made a steady progression, he was always gonna become the player he has today. the only thing that has held him back has been a couple of really bad back injuries (the first when he was 16 and could have finished him).

some players will always be great, no matter who coaches them. i think mcmanus and shields are in that category
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 11, 2009, 04:02:38 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 11, 2009, 12:51:42 PM
SCB, do you think that was down to the management or the fact that these were the pick of the talent coming through?

Also BH is onyl getting back to the form he was in before he left the scene.

McManus has looked like a top player from the moment he appeared as a minor, Shorty while skillfull was a bit light at first, age and training have brought him on.

As for Brendan Herron personally I did not think he was any great shakes before he left for australia but I think he has been arguably Antrims most consistent player this spring. Anyways as someone said earlier its about time to get behind the team now, recriminations can wait until the end of the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 11, 2009, 07:55:08 PM
I'm told the Milltown men are chasing a former Clare senior hurling panellist. Anyone else hear this rumour?

Wouldn't have happened in Hamill's day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 11, 2009, 08:21:42 PM
although the result against cork yesterday for dublin should give them some heart.

NAG, what was that result, and what in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2009, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: anailís on May 11, 2009, 08:21:42 PM
although the result against cork yesterday for dublin should give them some heart.

NAG, what was that result, and what in?

Cork 3-22 Dublin 0-14

By Jackie Cahill

Monday, May 11, 2009

DUBLIN manager Anthony Daly admitted his side received a hurling lesson from Cork in a weekend challenge as former Australian Rules player Aisake O hAilp?n starred for the Rebels.

O'hAilp?n was a constant thorn in Dublin?s defence and his performance at full-forward in the 3-22 to 0-14 rout has pushed the on-trial Na Piarsaigh star firmly into contention for a starting place against Tipperary in the Munster SHC showdown on May 31.

Daly, meanwhile, has urged his players to heed the harsh lesson dished out by Cork at Wexford venue Oylgate on Saturday ahead of their Leinster SHC opener against Antrim on June 7. Dublin are 1/7 favourites with some bookmakers but those are odds that have astonished former Clare captain and manager Daly.

The two-time All-Ireland senior medallist said: "Dublin got a timely reminder that league and championship are two completely different ball games.

"We got a lesson and it just shows that we can?t be running away with ourselves. We might have gone well in the league but championship is a different animal. Dublin have a serious amount of work to do. We have four weeks to go to the Antrim game and we need some serious hurling but above all, mental toughening."

Dublin also have serious injury problems to contend with as they prepare for the visit of the Saffrons.

Ronan Fallon is a massive doubt with a broken metatarsal bone in his foot and the centre back will be in plaster for another ten days.

Tom?s Brady, Ross O?Carroll and Peter Kelly did not feature against Cork because of hamstring injuries while the manager?s injury concerns have been exacerbated by a dead leg sustained by captain Stephen Hiney.

Niall Corcoran is currently on the treatment table with an ankle problem while Joey Boland, David O?Callaghan and goalkeeper Gary Maguire did not feature at the weekend because of a flu bug which has swept through the Dublin camp. Michael Carton and Dave Curtin were Dublin?s most effective performers while Cork boss Denis Walsh will have been most pleased by the displays of midfielder Jerry O?Connor and Kieran McGann at centre-back.

In attack, Timmy McCarthy and Niall McCarthy impressed but Daly highlighted O hAilp?n for particular praise.

Daly said: "He was taken down for a penalty and caught some great ball. He was a major handful for us and looked very hungry."



This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Monday, May 11, 2009
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 11, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
thanks for that cloot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 11, 2009, 10:04:48 PM
Now if only there was a thread were we could discuss Cork hurling. . . . . . Shucks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2009, 10:46:33 PM
Cork must be using "the dall method" this year :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 12, 2009, 09:22:48 AM
I think that in other years Cork would have taken these challenges in their stride but the fact that they have no hurling done means that they have to go hard at it.

I think Antrim are every bit as good hurlers as Dublin but I dont know if we have the work done to compete with them. I hear the tickets are going to be hard enough to come by with it being paired with the football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2009, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 12, 2009, 09:22:48 AM
I think that in other years Cork would have taken these challenges in their stride but the fact that they have no hurling done means that they have to go hard at it.

I think Antrim are every bit as good hurlers as Dublin but I dont know if we have the work done to compete with them. I hear the tickets are going to be hard enough to come by with it being paired with the football.

Any ideas when the tickets will be available NAG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 12, 2009, 11:40:34 AM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=1633

Haven't tried Casement myself yet. What way does it work? Do you put names down for tickets or are they available now then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 12, 2009, 11:43:28 AM
I would imagine they will be on ticketmaster as well so they can get their cut.

Casement will get an allocation of tickets but im not sure as to how they will be handed out. Dublin Meath is a massive draw even in the credit crunch so I would expect there will be a full house.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 12, 2009, 11:43:28 AM
I would imagine they will be on ticketmaster as well so they can get their cut.

Casement will get an allocation of tickets but im not sure as to how they will be handed out. Dublin Meath is a massive draw even in the credit crunch so I would expect there will be a full house.

I have a fair idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 12, 2009, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 11, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
True enough Skull

Dont think anyone could name the antrim team including S&W at the moment. Shorty doesnt look like he is going to make. Pinkie has a broken finger/ Hand as does Karl McK. Plus even if they had a full compliment god knows what team they would pick anyway.

Pinky's hand was in very bad shape after the Loughgiel matah last week and and had to have an operation on Friday. He will not be playing for Antrim against Dublin by all accounts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 13, 2009, 09:08:59 AM
Looks like that was two broken hands in that loughgiel ballycastle game last week. Ding broke his too, i hear - although doesn't sound as bad as Pinky's ordeal though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 13, 2009, 09:18:07 AM
From what I hear pinkie will do well to hurl again and on the other one Karma is a bitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 13, 2009, 11:33:11 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 12, 2009, 09:31:45 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 11, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
True enough Skull

Dont think anyone could name the antrim team including S&W at the moment. Shorty doesnt look like he is going to make. Pinkie has a broken finger/ Hand as does Karl McK. Plus even if they had a full compliment god knows what team they would pick anyway.

Pinky's hand was in very bad shape after the Loughgiel matah last week and and had to have an operation on Friday. He will not be playing for Antrim against Dublin by all accounts.

Must of been a bad slap he took, but am I right in thinking he had previous trouble with his hand over recent months.

Its unfortunate that with the limited squad we have coming up to the Dublin game we're dealing with injuries to a few key players.  I still fancy us to give Dublin a real rattle though.  Do you think S&W will go with O'Connell in nets or will they give Mc Garry the nod as his suspension will be up by the time of the Dublin game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 13, 2009, 11:47:31 AM
Hard to have faith in a keeper playing reserve hurling for his club good a keeper as he might well be!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 13, 2009, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: NAG on May 13, 2009, 11:47:31 AM
Hard to have faith in a keeper playing reserve hurling for his club good a keeper as he might well be!

I think the position he finds himself in is an unfortunate one but one which will ultimately cost him come the Dublin game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 13, 2009, 12:51:48 PM
I see Dunloys young goalkeeper is keeping Gareth Magee of the team at present.  I don't think Magee trained last year but he was a class act when he was in the team for Dunloy a few years ago.  Do the Dunloy contributors think this will be the case come ye olde championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 13, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Magee played against us on Sunday. He wasn't really tested, Dunloy are playing them week about which isn't great either. Gabby drooped a couple last week I'm told which is a pity as he hurled very well last year and you can bet he will cause them a lot less trouble that that other clown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 13, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Both on the panel, playing week about at minute, or half about in some games.  Don't see any great problem in that, it is still only May and keepers deserve their fair crack of the whip too

As for who starts the first round of the Championship, at this stage i'd have no idea
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2009, 02:48:03 PM
Its hardly ideal, would it not better if they decide on one keeper, tell him he is the number one and let him get on with it until form or fitness dictates otherwise. It wouldnt be great for a full back line playing with a different keeper every week. In my opinion when Magee is on his game he is the best keeper in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 13, 2009, 03:31:50 PM
Id agree with that Minder. But I dont see any harm in letting both of them prove themselve throughout the season and then make a call on it going on form running into the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 13, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Magee when he's in the right frame of mind is a class act. But his appetite went and he didn't play for us last year last year. If he can find the zest for it and prove his commitment to the team again then Gabby will have a fight on his hand. But the same is true for Magee. Gabby is a tough commited lad and won't lie down to the challenge IMO. He was superb for us last year and didn't put a foot wrong that I can remember and it was only age/size that limited his range on the puckouts. This year his puck outs are going farther and his hands are still good. With them pushing each other on Dunloy will be all the stronger for it.  
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2009, 09:16:50 PM

Tonights Results

Gaeil Chluana  2-13 3-10 Shane O Neills  Ahoghill   
Gort Na Mona   0-17 1-12 St. Galls  Gort Na Mona   
St. Pauls  0-6 2-16 Rossa   St. Pauls   
Tir na Nog  0-10 1-12 Glenariff  Tir Na Nog
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 13, 2009, 10:47:51 PM
Loughgiel 1-9 Cushendall 0-10
Very poor, scrappy game of hurling. Matthews unable to referee, so McGilligan (Dunloy) did the needful. Couldn't seem to make his mind up if he should let it go/play advantage or blow it up.
Not much between the two teams on show, apart from a soft goal dropped into the net in 1st half by Fred McAuley. Young Laverty quite accurate from dead ball, most of 'Dall's scores coming in 2nd half from frees (only scored 2 points in 1st half against breeze).
Loughgiel only team unbeaten so far in league, not that that means much nowadays. Used to be these games would have drawn a big crowd, what can be done to make the league more interesting/attractive for clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 13, 2009, 11:21:39 PM
Whos the cart and whos the horse? A big crowd driving their team on usually produces more entertaining hurling. Theres a shower of lazy fcukers in every town up and down the land. Poor enough crowd I thought at the Ballycastle/Dunloy Game (Dunloy won by a point in another scrappy affair). Just goes to show the real GAA supporters when theres a premiership match on. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 14, 2009, 01:20:57 AM
we beat all saints something like 6-17 0-03, althoug from what i gather they had two men sent off. wins a win all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 14, 2009, 09:17:50 AM
We beat the Aggies by 6 in a fairly scrappy affair as it normally is with them. They always get tore into us like a c'ship game for some reason which put us on the back foot for a while, wild pulling left them a man down half way through the second half but they still managed to work a couple of good goal chances which thankfully we dealt with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 14, 2009, 09:28:53 AM
Thats a mad result against All Saints, its a real pity Ballymena can't get a serious team together,  I remember as well them beating Armoy (ithink Clute was even playing) in the mid nineties in Junior championship.  With that population and some decent young players who never seem to make it through

Agree with Skull, poor enough show/game between Dunloy and Ballycastle.  Gabby in goals made a couple of excellent saves and poc outs were good.

What do they feed those Donnelly's down in the town, Matthew Donnelly hurling last night, big beast of a man, and still minor next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2009, 09:36:30 AM
Ballycastle are making a shape at it anyway it would seem. I would say if they could gather up one of two more serious players they would not be too far away with some decent training and committment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2009, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: NAG on May 14, 2009, 09:36:30 AM
Ballycastle are making a shape at it anyway it would seem. I would say if they could gather up one of two more serious players they would not be too far away with some decent training and committment.

Agree, but it seems like a big if for the town NAG. I think they will this year for some reason. Jesus thon Matt Donnelly is a serious size of a man for 17 and his brother Ryan is no small fry either. He would need to keep training to keep all of it muscle. The same could be said for Peter Dallat. Antrim are crying out for big fit hurlers. I hope "they" give them 2-3 years to improve in their clubs before getting them involved at senior county

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2009, 11:08:46 AM
Yeah I would hope so too, but is it just me or are they producing all these big men who have a tendency to be defenders if they had a spinkling of quicker nippier forwards to go along with these guys then they would be a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 14, 2009, 11:16:09 AM
wait to you see Ciaran Clarke.............

who's taking the town now anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 14, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
Ive seen him already and no doubt there is a talent there, he could do with 2 - 3 friends to make them seriously competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2009, 11:32:20 AM
You are 100% about young clarke.  I'd say Liam Watson is the best forward we've seen in Ulster over the last decade or so but this youngfella has what Liam had and more plus he has the right attitude.  Going to be a real star.  Ballycastle could well be a serious force in four/five years time if they keep things together. They have wonderful facilities and a good catchment area
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 14, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
North Antrim Gael, young Clarke is a great talent but only 15/16 and many things can happen between now and senior, not least soccer which he would also be good at and has been on trials. As for Ballycastle they have no chance as they have no club now worth talking about. They are run by the funboy three (Donnelly's) and nobody else allowed a say. They don't have any decent coaches bar maybe Humpy and he's with Down. The club discipline is bad at underage( 2u14's sent of in Ulster feile). On the plus side it has numbers if it ever gets sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on May 14, 2009, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: JamesH on May 14, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
North Antrim Gael, young Clarke is a great talent but only 15/16 and many things can happen between now and senior, not least soccer which he would also be good at and has been on trials. As for Ballycastle they have no chance as they have no club now worth talking about. They are run by the funboy three (Donnelly's) and nobody else allowed a say. They don't have any decent coaches bar maybe Humpy and he's with Down. The club discipline is bad at underage( 2u14's sent of in Ulster feile). On the plus side it has numbers if it ever gets sorted.

Young shane jennings and james mclister or mcalister :-\ i cant remember, are both great players for ballycastle at minor now as well although soccer may take jennings away from them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: joedenilson on May 14, 2009, 03:46:36 PM
Howya lads,

I'm trying to collate all the league tables in the country and was wondering could you help me.
Are the tables on http://antrim.sportsmanager.ie accurate/up to date? If not can you let me know where I could get them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
They look to be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 14, 2009, 04:48:09 PM
Seem accurate and were updated by 10.30 last night, fair play to whoever does it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2009, 05:13:04 PM
Fair play alright, the scores were up on the website before some of our fellas were home from the Randalstown match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 14, 2009, 05:15:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2009, 05:13:04 PM
Fair play alright, the scores were up on the website before some of our fellas were home from the Randalstown match.

Personally, I think it is a fantastic set up - you start to see the scores going up anytime from about 5 minutes after the match is over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 14, 2009, 05:53:24 PM
It's all automatic with the referees texting the score in at the end of the match, so depends on the referee being actually able to send a text.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 14, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
Well done to whoever organised it then I hope he has made a few quid selling the system to othe counties and sporting organisations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 14, 2009, 08:18:20 PM
The list of injuries in the Irish News makes pretty depressing reading!

Brendan Herron, Paul Shiels and Kieran Kelly are definitely out of the Dublin game.

Karl McKeegan (fractured hand)
Neil McManus (hip),
Eddie McCloskey (hamstring),
Shane McNaughton (hand) - is he back?
Conor McKinley
Joey Scullion,

all carrying knocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 14, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
i'd say mcmanus and shane mcnaughton will be ok, was shane not playing last nite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 15, 2009, 08:18:24 AM
I heard the injury to Paul Shields could be a long term problem but the injury list isnt looking good thats for sure. The boys heading off to Waterford this afternoon for a training weekend with a 'behind closed doors' game with Waterford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2009, 09:00:02 AM
I read last week in the IN that SHorty had had his scan and that the results were known. Then I heard last night that he hadn't yet been for the scan. What is that all about? Are they really interested in player welfare if they feel they have to lie to a newspaper to show that they are treating his injuries properly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 15, 2009, 09:02:40 AM
Skull what I had heard was that he was supposed to be getting the scan last week but infact had actually just been to see the specialist who then referred him on for the scan. (Even though sambo had reported in the paper that he had been through the scan and all)

He has since been through the scan this week.

The word I had got that it was bad news from the scan, can you fill us in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2009, 09:51:29 AM
Sorry I've heard nothing. I dread to think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 15, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
You think ballycastle have talent, just wait until you see St Johns in 5 years!

Intermediate champions ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2009, 12:00:07 AM
Has history taught you nothing groundie?

How many top class hurlers fell by the wayside up there in the past 10 years before they even got to senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:07:30 AM
Groundie is talking about these great under 16's that are coming through, i refereed them this year and did the final last year. technique is outstanding, ability brilliant but as you have said Skull, falling by the wayside, they have a great record at that. the kids are "proper westies"  and so it will turn out.

harsh but true, would love to see a Belfast senior hurling championship winner, even st johns "Christ that hurt"  i cheered rossa that wet sunday the beat Loughgiel "through gritted teeth ;D"  cause it's good for hurling to have various winners but st johns will have to work hard to keep that wee team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:18:56 AM
luck plays a big part sometimes but the big teams are there because they have done well for years at juvenile and senior. we got lucky one year at senior football but the ground work was done for years before hand and the lads came through on to a winning team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 16, 2009, 12:20:41 AM
Depends on the size and scale of your team HS, for a wee club like Armoy one good minor team can sustain you for a very long time, in terms of winning a senior championship say 5 players off one minor team allied to a few good experienced players can take you a long way. The Dunloy feile na gael team circa 1984 went on to win plenty of championships ( although they were exceptional).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:25:51 AM
St Johns have won plenty of minor championships, it does not come through to senior for some reason
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:28:51 AM
i find that bizzare, whats his reason for not playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:29:42 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 16, 2009, 12:27:15 AM
Quote from: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:25:51 AM
St Johns have won plenty of minor championships, it does not come through to senior for some reason
What the f**k?
They won it the other year but before that it was 1981.

won competed in, ya know what i mean
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:33:38 AM
its the drink ;)

playing south antrim and div 4 when i can, long may it continue, but the drink and gambling is stoping me from getting on Sambos team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 12:41:25 AM
 :D :D :D 89 ya cheeky bugger. same age as Joe. but better looking

I'd a real hard paper round, during the war it was a bad time, dodging bullets bombs and priests
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
Senior Hurling Challenge Waterford 1.14 Antrim 0.19

seen this on the county webshite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 16, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
Senior Hurling Challenge Waterford 1.14 Antrim 0.19

seen this on the county webshite
The whole of Antrim can breathe a sigh of relief. Antrim are back to their best!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 06:24:03 PM
5/1 on paddy power, we are running a bus down. bookie on board and free drink!! that rules out O'Neill ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 16, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
Free drink? Can I go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Are the tickets on sale this week for the Dublin game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 16, 2009, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 16, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Are the tickets on sale this week for the Dublin game?
Wednesday night 7.30-8.30 at Casement for clubs and same time Thurs night for sale to general public.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 16, 2009, 09:07:46 PM
Quote from: milltown row on May 16, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
Senior Hurling Challenge Waterford 1.14 Antrim 0.19

seen this on the county webshite

Good result better than getting a tanking would like to see who was playing/scoring
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2009, 03:28:51 PM
Your minor championship win was 05 groundie and you beat Dunloy at a cantor. Those boys would have been U21 last year. Care to take the rose tinted spectacles off and tell us why youse didn't enter a team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2009, 05:12:49 PM
When I think of the personel involved I can't help but think it was 05, but when I work it back 04 it was.

Until someone tells me different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 17, 2009, 05:33:34 PM
cushendall won the double double in 05 and 06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 17, 2009, 07:22:44 PM
Why will it be quite a while before a city team win the senior championship? I'll tell you why and its short a sweet, The clubs in the city don't work hard enough simple as that. it seems easier to complain etc etc than to get down to the basis of a championship victory which is again hard work.
They have good and some very good hurlers as good as in North Antrim, but in every parish here if your club is not pulling its weight in will be towed into line by its members.  If you are not progressing people crack up, Hurling is the first topic of conversation in the morning in the village and the last at night, its our passion, what we look forward to every Oct when the season ends.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2009, 08:00:29 PM
that may be a fair assessment, tradition plays a massive part in north Antrim.

but, Dunloy hadn't great hurling tradition before they won it and Cushendall were no great shakes before the mid 80's. they have made up for it surely but the main problem in the big smoke is this, too many clubs and all them fielding football and hurling.. if clubs focused on one code then there would be more success in Belfast.

it may even help our county teams in the long run, a radical move would be for clubs to pick a code
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 17, 2009, 08:13:10 PM
start my own ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 17, 2009, 08:23:31 PM
I think there is too many clubs.A few of them are just social clubs...I think read recently about a club in Belfast that doesnt have a senior team playing this year(not sure if football or Hurling).

Less clubs in Belfast..as only really 4/5 clubs if even seem to be putting in the required effort or close to it.The effort has to be put it year in year out. As Milltown said,being a Dual Club is very hard. Look at St Galls..they had their best spell at underage about 10/12 years ago & most of these players havent been close to fulfilling their potential due to the success of the football. Hopefully the Belfast Plan will help with good coaching & organised leagues a must.I hope it works

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 18, 2009, 11:08:19 AM
I cant remember who said it earlier here that one or two good underage teams do not make a long term successful club. If you look at any of the successful clubs they are built on a conveyor belt system, they are not always successful at under age but they are coaching their players in the right way and not putting them off with any undue pressures.

If we take Dunloy as the prime example they have not had massive amounts of success but they have put good teams together and some very good teams. Each year they seem to get one two three minors u21's coming though of the correct standard and that is all that it takes to keep being successful. Cushendall are the very same and Loughgiel to a lesser extent as they seem to prize underage success above the long term goal. Just look at the number of players that have walked away before their prime.

So the lessons are there to be learned, instant success is not always a healthy thing when planning long term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG on May 18, 2009, 11:18:33 AM
Yeah thats what I mean Groundlie, you need a good blend of older players with the right attitude and bringing in a continual mix of younger guys to freshen it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 18, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
anyone have any word on how the game with waterford went? what kind of teams did both have out? antrim must have been missing quite a few
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 18, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 18, 2009, 11:13:55 AM
The attitude among some of the more senior players in our club isn't the type of example that should be set for young players coming through. Hopefully that will change. Anyway south antrim tonight in the bear pit, thats what hurlings all about  ;)

The bear pit is a shadow of its former self now, it was one hell of a battle in its heyday, with the tribe of McKernans and Fred with that god awful green helmet. Always guaranteed a broken hand in there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 18, 2009, 01:37:14 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
anyone have any word on how the game with waterford went? what kind of teams did both have out? antrim must have been missing quite a few

No idea, Colonel, but from arsing around on the web, the County Website has us winning by 2, some one on upthedeise.com has us winning by 1 and the Examiner has it down as a draw. They all seem to be agreed we scored 19 points. The Examiner says it was both Tony Browne's and Ken McGrath's first game back after lay-offs.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on May 19, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
County to play Clare on Sunday in challenge? Wonder where this might be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2009, 08:09:04 AM
Am i right in thinking the Antrim v Clare friendly is going ahead on Sunday regardless of how it affects the clubs ? I believe our match with Gort Na Mona is going ahead even though we will be without Dan Mc Killop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 20, 2009, 09:00:47 AM
Ballycastle are meant to be down with us on the saturday afternoon, with them having 3 or 4 lads on the county setup I'd be surprised if they didn't manage to get it called off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2009, 09:42:15 AM
Yeah
All things up in the air. Could they not do this on a football weekend ffs. And Shorty still hasn't got his scan.

To S&W & the County Administration
If you're going to shoe in these challange matches without providing good solutions to the club fixtures you're impacting then why expect anything else than an angry pissed off reaction from the people who you want support from.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2009, 09:44:24 AM
The very pleasant & helpful Admin on the Antrim Site has now said that "most" clubs have agreed to move the games to the Saturday and all county players are available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on May 20, 2009, 03:03:22 PM
So are the league matches on this weekend on not. Saturday or Sunday. Does anybody know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 20, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
we are playing sat night 5.30 at Milltown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2009, 12:11:17 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on May 21, 2009, 09:35:25 AM
Haven't a baldy!  We were out last (have to mention a very good display and win v Rossa) and the managment told us that we're playing on Sunday v Glenariffe.  Wee bit annoyed again that the club hurlers are asked to change and sacrifice for the county.  Is next weekend not a football weekend?  Surely that was the time to organise a friendly.  Having said that Sambo and Woody are obviously looking the best preparation possible for this Dublin match and fair dues to them.

Who do you play at the weekend MR?  We've Glenariffe which should be a good competitive match.  It'll tell a lot about ourselves after the match on Sunday.  We've had great old battles over the eyars with them but that few years in a row in Division 1 will have made them favourites.  Having said that, it was a great rivalry and good to get it going again.

We will be without Dan Mc Killop, you can imagine the response he got when he rang the manager to tell him he wouldnt be there and was playing in a friendly...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 21, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
Think Dunloy are playing St Johns on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 22, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
Says on the county webshite that only 100 tickets were sold to the general public at Casement!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2009, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 22, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
Says on the county webshite that only 100 tickets were sold to the general public at Casement!

I saw that, in fairness they dont get much more than 100 in Casement ! Ithought there would have been more. I will be there with the rest of the believers and bandwagoners.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 24, 2009, 03:28:23 PM
What's the story with the County Website - anyone else having difficulties getting on to it?

Score from the challenge - Clare 3 22 to Antrim 1 13. More competitive than that scoreline suggests - was 1 13 to 1 6 at half time and Antrim had a string of points to bring it back to a couple in it about 10 minutes into the second half. Thereafter, they just couldn't score with any fluency - missed about 3 good goal chances and had a rake of wides. Clare scored about 2 4 in the last five minutes to give the scoreline the look of a bad beating. Defence did well. Midfield and half forward was a bit ropey. Full forward line got a reasonable amount of ball but just didn't use it well at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 24, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 24, 2009, 03:28:23 PM
What's the story with the County Website - anyone else having difficulties getting on to it?


Hosting on the county website was upgraded.  It can still be accessed from: http://www.antrimgaa.net/
Will hopefully get http://antrim.gaa.ie redirected in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2009, 07:10:14 PM
Glenariffe beat Gort Na Mona easier than i thought they would. Gorts never travel well to us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 24, 2009, 09:29:15 PM
The Glenariff-Gortnamona game was excellent to watch, very fast moving and both sides getting stuck in. A few wild swings from the Gort boys but nothing malicious. One of their guys got a straight red for jabbing a Glenariff player in the ribs after being fouled. Very stupid, the ref was standing directly in front of him, plus the game was over at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2009, 09:06:08 AM
Ballycastle turned us over on saturday by three points. I have impressed by McAuley in centre back even if we did play into his hands and pump everything up the middle. They do have a fairly young team in general but lack a bit of quality in the forwards to go that extra bit to challenge Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel come championship time. Our lads had chances to take the game when we got the lead down to a point but for woefull decision making in our midfeild and half forwards, trying to run it past a physically bigger opponent in tight confines. The number of times the ball could and should have been moved into the full forwards with a ground pull or early delivery but instead the man in possession chose to run it and ultimately fucked up. Our full forward line was making hay when they got possession but once Ballycastle deployed a spare man to sweep up at the start of the second half we never got to grips with it and played rignt into their hands by having to bring magic out from the corner into the middle of the congestion, he did get the odd point but we needed more at that stage.

Good win for the Crans over the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 25, 2009, 10:13:22 AM
Crans & Ballycastle seem to be making progress this year. Though as has been said many times you have be careful when you beat the dall in the league, the best and only team who can treat the league with contempt almost and still put out a championship winning team.

Last year was talking to a Cushendall man after the Ulster success and he said they had only performed well in 3 games in total all year.  Just happened to be Championship final and Ulster canpaign.

We beat St John's in a poor match, conditions were heavy and St Johns seemed to have a very young team out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 25, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
we beat Tir Na Og on sat night, won by four but were up by ten at one stage. they have a great full forward. big lad hard to stop who managed to score all their scores i think.

they got well worked up those Randlestown lads. cheering and jerring when they won puck outs and frees!!!!! they played it like championship

i played against Ballymena yesterday, a serious amount of sledging going on. who coaches these teams? they were crap, hit the man first and try and get the ball later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 25, 2009, 08:16:29 PM
ha ha ha, thats quality!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 25, 2009, 08:25:27 PM
I doubt a trip to the big city must have went to the fellas head. Youse should have smashed every window in the car. Sounds like a right shower of gypsies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
Surely thats a wind up?  :o

Fcuk me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 25, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
That is mad..  :o  :o

Can anything be done to them? Could the club suspend them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 26, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2009, 07:57:53 PM
What about this for madness.

Rossa v Clooney Gaels. A Rossa player goes down injured and a Rossa mentor runs over to see what's wrong with him. When the mentor bent down to tend to the player, his mobile phone fell out of his pocket without him knowing. A sc**bag f**ker from Clooney Gaels notices this and kicks the phone a couple of yards. He then goes after it, bends down and puts it into his sock. He then makes his way over to his wife, in the crowd, gives her the phone, she turns it off and she runs down and puts it in the car.
Luckily this was spotted by another Rossa man and he told the mentor what happened. The mentor approaches the Clooney scummmer and demands his phone back. Clooney scummer denies all knowledge. The Rossa mentor then says, "We're going to your car". When they go to the car, there is the phone. Clooney scummer says that it is his phone. The Rossa mentor grabs it and turns it on before saying "Why are all my numbers in your phone?"

Pair of sc**bag b**tards!!

Thats mental. Tramps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 26, 2009, 01:59:26 PM
i'm surprised Marty didn't knock her out!!

lads were telling me about it yesterday. it's worse in div 3 Hardstation. so keep winning ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 26, 2009, 02:01:22 PM
So did the phone fall out of Martys pocket or did he drop it..................?

Its ok i already have my coat on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 26, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Pure madness and his wife the fecking smuggler.
Never miss a genuine opportunity even when you are in the middle of playing a hurilng match.

Trampy cnuts.
I wonder what the club think of it? Try ahoghillgaa.com
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mrsandman on May 27, 2009, 10:51:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2009, 11:54:30 PM
I agree with hatchetfield in that it's nothing to do with the club itself.
How could this scummer show his face at their next training session though?

This lad is taking some shocking abuse, its bad form if its true but could we hear from the other side of the fence? If there is any clooney locals out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
I don't knoiw whether to laugh or cry at the Clooney Gaels Ahoghill story!!  Some people really are shameless,  I understand that one player can't be responsible for giving a club a bad name but just think how a bad a press a city team would have got had the shoe been on the other foot?

Anyways back to the action I was away for a weekend break.  Are there any club games in North Antrim tonight or will I have to make do with the CL Final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 27, 2009, 04:10:17 PM
well we are meant to be playing Loughgiel in the reserve championship tonight. as luck would have it with this county this will be our 5 game in a row(feast or famine). we played Saturday, Sunday, Monday and last night. we asked Loughgeil if it were possible to move the match to this sat night.

the response was this "we haven't had a match in ages so we aren't calling it of" well if we don't muster up a team tonight then it will be ages before they get another game. their logic is lost on me. now people may come on and say Champions League final and City boys will be watching it. that may be the case for some, but others are fooked!! 5 games in a row has thrown up injuries.

I'll be ready >:( would rather play Hurling than watch the Final to be honest, can always catch the last 20 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
5 Games in a row is hardly ideal prep for a championship game, surely the county admin could have looked at this especially since all fixtures seem to go on hold for the next while. 

Is this match in Loughguile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
I don't knoiw whether to laugh or cry at the Clooney Gaels Ahoghill story!!  Some people really are shameless,  I understand that one player can't be responsible for giving a club a bad name but just think how a bad a press a city team would have got had the shoe been on the other foot?

Anyways back to the action I was away for a weekend break.  Are there any club games in North Antrim tonight or will I have to make do with the CL Final?

I would fully expect clooney to ban their sc**bag of a member for life for doing something like that. As others have said, they are a decent club full of decent people. It's up to those people now to not let their reputations be tarnished.

Milltown...enjoy your match. No doubt it'll be much better entertainment than the drivel that will be served up tonight ont telly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 27, 2009, 07:21:03 PM
just back, we only managed to have 11 players at 6-35pm  at the club to head down. would have ended up with 13 but they would have been late. raging :-\

cant understand some players who'd rather watch a game of football than play a game of hurling. we'd 21 reserve players playing Breadgh last night. and before we even stripped out I'd 9 excuses for tonight's game.

Breadgh are a decent team, too good for that league and should they beat Glenravel they will go up. oh and i know this is not Loughgiels fault we asked for the game to be changed till the weekend but they refused on the bases that they have not had any games lately!! there wont be any games till 12 of July a game next week would have suited everyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 28, 2009, 01:39:39 AM
Sad to hear that MR - it really does get my goat when players would rather watch a soccer match than play a hurling championship match, especially given the turn out for you last night.
I'd rather train for the hurling than watch the Champions League final, even if I was in Rome.
Soccer is crap and pales into comparison v hurling.
That Champions League final, at least the last 25 mins that I caught was dung but I suppose every cloud and all that with united getting beat.

Would it not have been wise to call off last night's game and put the focus on tonight?
However, its a tough one and not very accomodating of Loughgeil...they are known to be many things but that is not one of them.
A mid week fixture next week would have been ideal.


In relation to the Cloney Gaels incident did this definitely happen. Shocking behaviour if so but I spoke with a Cloney person today who denied that it occurred.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2009, 10:16:44 AM
This pack support mentality for teams that have nothing to do with the place we come from is so sickeningly sad. GAA men who follow soccer do so just to be part of "the gang". You can't tell me that pish is enjoyable to watch.

The fact they walked away and let down their own club is very sad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2009, 01:52:15 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on May 28, 2009, 01:09:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 28, 2009, 10:16:44 AM
This pack support mentality for teams that have nothing to do with the place we come from is so sickeningly sad. GAA men who follow soccer do so just to be part of "the gang". You can't tell me that pish is enjoyable to watch.

The fact they walked away and let down their own club is very sad.

That's very true Skull, however i think that it is also important that clubs use common sense.  Alright, i'd love for our boys not to support English and Scottish soccer clubs but that is the nature of the beast, certainly in Belfast but i know it applies to the rest of the county.  It doesn't make you less of a Gael to rearrange a fixture like our club did, funnily enough at the request of Ballygalget (we play them tonight).

Loughgeil should have accomodated St Galls.  What has happened now is that for Loughgeil wanting to play the game 'because they hadn't had a match in ages' is that they ended up without a game when they could have guarentee'd a match for themselves tonight!!

In my street alone, there were united flags out from people's windows, kids are being bombarded with the media telling them that Ronaldo and Messi are gods to be adored and they're non-gaa friends are backing this all up.  I think the GAA could be doing a lot lot more to sell our product to kids.  But anyway, the seniors of today were once those kids who began to be influenced by the skysports culture in the 90s and whether its good or bad, its reality!!

Ronaldo and Messi are impressive though!!

i don't think the CL had anything to do with our request to move the game Hatchet, we're currently fucked with injuries and our thirds team had a game on tuesday night and the majority of our reserve team are the one and the same personnel currently and it was felt it would be too much to play two nights on the trot for a lot of the aging players obviously in agreement of the Gorts which thankfully they did.

Certainly the hype generated by sky/ITV and other media outlets hides the fact that its an inferior product to hurling (my opinion obviously) and the GAA doesn't seem to be on that page as you'd find it hard to know that Cork and Tipp, two of the biggest hurling counties are on TV this sunday, Kids don't read the Irish news, examiner etc, so how do you get across to kids and IMO an ad on TV like the Guinness 'giants' campaign minus the guinness about tea time on RTE and UTV/TV3 can only but help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on May 28, 2009, 02:03:52 PM
Clubs are loosing sight of the reason we play the game.  teams are not just concerned with getting points, instead of playing because they enjoy it. it hppened to us in the down league where we asked for a fixture to be re-arranged because we had a match in the antrim league, the down club refused, so we had to give them the points.  maybe its just me, but id rather play a game and lose than get the points for a game that isnt played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 28, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
as you have said Johnnycool, this reserve team had a match v Ballymena on sunday Divisional board game v St Paul's on Monday and a div 4 game on Tues night!!! a combination of injuries boys working and the dreaded CLF meant that we were seriously depleted. Loughgiel were phoned a few times on the sunday but didn't want to move it to a date of their choice.

I've already refused points against Banagher when they couldn't travel one sat in the Ulster hurling league, and the fookers wont play us which may mean we will lose out on a semi final spot. :-[

Loughgiel reserve team would beat our senior team. but sure have the points and i hope ya's don't win the Championship this year again ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
I think someone said it isnt "form" for Loughguile but i can only speak from our experience and Loughguile have never been anything but difficult and unnaccomodating when it comes to rescheduling games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 29, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
A couple of points

1. I don't think it makes youany less a gael by supporting a English soccer team, the reality is for most young active children in ireland is they will enjoy most sports, and that is to be embraced, The GAA season for u14's usually ends in august, the soccer season begins, what is the harm in keeping a interest in sport in the winter months.  Certainly as a lifelong supporter of Manchester United i enjoy reading the reports,previews,hyperbole that surrounds the Premiership.  I'd never foresake my club for a soccer match but i was very keen to watch the CLF

2. It very much is loughgiels form to do this, they did a similar thing last year to us in senior league

3. GAA seriously needs to look at how it promotes these games, two of the three giants of hurling play this week and very little noise about it.  with all these paid professionals in the GAA has no one thought about the marketing of the games themselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2009, 10:17:37 AM
Max...many teams train/play during the soccer season. How many people sit on their arses to watch sky sports rather than lend a hand taking teams or even make the effort to go out and support their local teams. Thats a real problem. It is an excuse for lazy people to cop out in the areas that they live in......aww the liverpool match is on...blah blah blah.....same with golfers btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 29, 2009, 10:26:26 AM
Agree entirely, it sickens me when people who claim to be clubmen, and who talk the talk in bars, don't back it up with action.  but thats is too do with people's attitude to the GAA not other sports., excuses can be found in anything.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2009, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 28, 2009, 01:39:39 AM

However, its a tough one and not very accomodating of Loughgeil...they are known to be many things but that is not one of them.
A mid week fixture next week would have been ideal.


Apologies if the above was seen to be suggesting Loughgeil are accomodating. The intention was to say that they are many things but one of them is not accomodating. Anyone, enough of the body/bodie bashing (for a few hours at least).


What does anyone think the team will be for next weekend v Dublin?
Hopeful? I can't wait for it. No reason we can't beat them.
Will any dual players be allowed to play football this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 29, 2009, 01:25:56 PM
its only a seven day rule i'd imagine. besides playing a match wont do them any harm

was not bashing them only stating they would not change fixture thats all. more annoyed at the club players who'd rather watch CLF

So what are the clubs going to do for the next 6 weeks? no fixtures till the 12 of July!! will have to arrange a few challenge games. who's interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 29, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
North Antrim clubs have the Feis at the end of June & start of July.

Or if some clubs have no county players they could re-arrange one of their matches to be played during this break. Obviously some teams would struggle without theirs(Cushendall/Loughgiel/St Galls/Ballycastle)..but St Johns have no county players, even Dunloy have only 2/3( & 2 of them may be injured? shorty/Woody)....county players..if they wanted to they could re-arrange fixtures...entirely their choice if they didnt wish to....just saying if clubs wished to do this they could. Some of the Divison 2/3 teams could play fixtures i'd imagine. Not sure what fixtures Down have though?? Fair enough some players may have holidays booked for this time. But it could save you playing hurling in October/November
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on May 30, 2009, 01:10:54 AM
Antrim County Chairman John McSparran tonight challenged clubs to seriously reconsider the current arrangements with club fixtures in the top divisions of both hurling and football leagues.

"I was approached by a number of well respected people from some clubs tonight at the Under 21 football final and over the past couple of weeks. They were very unhappy at the apparent lack of club fixtures, particularly at this time of the year. None of these individuals are currently involved in administration within their own clubs, but the common complaint was  that at a time of the year which is most suited for playing games, our senior clubs are not being given fixtures".

McSparran went on to explain to these individuals that these clubs have repeatedly made it clear to the Competitions Control Committee that they do  not now want any fixtures unless all their players are available to them. "The CCC has consequently arranged fixtures in such a way that their county players are therefore available to them for all league games. Because County team preparation and fixtures are now at their peak, this means that very little club activity in the higher divisions is possible. That is the arrangement that clubs agreed to at the beginning of the year".

"In my address to County Convention, I called on clubs to abandon this madness. I do not believe that club activity ought to be abandoned because county teams are involved. I understand that some clubs might well be more disadvantaged than others due to the unavailability of county players, but the fact that these clubs have a greater number of county players must indicate that they have greater strength in depth than others. The current arrangements where the vast majority of our club players are disenfranchised from playing at this time of the year because of county teams must be ended".

The County Chairman went on to say that there never is a perfect situation where every player that could be available to a club is realistically available for a particular fixture, for a multitude of reasons. "Injuries, suspensions, holidays and personal commitments all impact on how a team might perform in a certain fixture.  However, we seem to be more obsessed with devising ways and means not to play games than what we are supposed to be doing, in ensuring that we do play games.  I am repeatedly told by some club officials that their club cannot afford to be relegated and that unless their county players are available for all club fixtures, they probably will be faced with relegation. I really find this hard to accept. In hurling, just one club is promoted and one relegated. I am confident that our league structures are much better in hurling now than they have been for years."

"In football, I believe that we need to get down to 8 team leagues where the fear of relegation will be seen as less disastrous.  It is this fear-factor that is currently our prime motivation for arranging fixtures in the way that we currently do. It is time we got back to basics and understand that our primary objective is to play our games and winning, losing or drawing is of secondary importance"

The County Chairman was robust in defending the Antrim CCC organisational abilities. "When our CCC gets together with their provincial colleagues at the end of the season, we can confidently demonstrate that we have organised and administered a far greater number of fixtures in both codes than any other Ulster county. That myth that this is an Antrim problem is complete and utter nonsense".

McSparran concluded by challenging clubs to contact the Antrim Competitions Control Committee to request fixtures now, rather than wait until October or November and that he would welcome debate on this matter at the next of the County Committee.

from county website.

ok play games without county players is his main solution. fair enough if your club is not worried about relegation, as who would be? if your club has county players then your sorted cause you've great depth in your squad. so if your club is, say my club and you have three hurling for the county and a couple playing for the football county team then really you should not worry about promotion or relegation.  Just play games without your best players, get relegated and you'll be sorted come championship, cause you'll bring into it, good form!!!! WHAT A LOAD OF SHITE.

if the county play one Sunday then nothing wrong with clubs playing the following Sunday. 6 weeks off is not the right answer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 02, 2009, 09:28:10 PM
Has the match been cancelled at weekend ,no chat about it. Any word on the team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 02, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
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Strong lineup. The coke should be flowing in Croker on Sunday with Dubs on the Hill for the football after the main event!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 03, 2009, 08:02:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
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Its a formidable team, the only weak links i can see are at full back and midfield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
So whats the story with the weekend then? I see we have got the excuses in early already!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 03, 2009, 02:06:59 PM
Antrim V Dublin
Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 7th June 2009 At Croke Park 2.00pm

1 Ryan Mc Garry     Ballycastle
2 Kieran Mc Gourty St Galls
3 Neil Mc Garry  Capt  Loughgiel
4 Aaron Graffin  Cushendall
5 Johnny Campbell Loughgiel
6 Cormac Donnelly Ballycastle
7 Neill Mc Auley Ballycastle
8 Paddy Richmond Dunloy
9 Karl Mc Keegan Cushendall
10 Sean Delargy Cushendall
11 Neil Mc Manus Cushendall
12 Michael Herron Lamh  Dhearg
13 Conor John Mc Gourty St Galls
14 Karl Stewart St Galls
15 PJ O Connell Clooney Gaels

16 Chris O Connell Loughgiel
17 Eddie Mc Closkey Loughgiel
18 Joey Scullion Loughgiel
19 Shane Mc Naughton Cushendall
20 Paddy Mc Gill Cushendall
21 Conor Mc Kinley Dunloy
22 Colm Duffin Tir Na Nog
23 Dan Mc Killop Glenariffe
24 Ciaran Herron Kevin Lynch's
25 Brendan Herron Lamh  Dhearg
26 Kieran Kelly Ballycastle
27 Paul Shields Dunloy

Considering the injuries it's as good as can be expected. Not sure if both Micko & CJ will both start as unsure if Croke Park will fit both their ego's at same time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
I can cofirm two hands that it definitely wouldnt be able to cope, I have say I am really disappointed that a guy who behaves in the manner he did towards our football manager is given the opportunity to pull on the saffron shirt in croke park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 03, 2009, 02:28:54 PM
We can look forward to several interviews with CJ this week in the Irish News.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2009, 02:31:01 PM
Am I on my own thinking that he doesnt deserve this chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on June 03, 2009, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 03, 2009, 02:31:01 PM
Am I on my own thinking that he doesnt deserve this chance?

No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2009, 03:33:53 PM
No

Principles where?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2009, 03:36:19 PM
Yeah I think it leaves a serious bad taste in the mouth.

Should be interesting with Paddy out round the middle of the field Skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2009, 03:46:57 PM
interesting alright  :-\

Big paddy is hardly in the Derek Lyng/Jerry O Connor mold. Would have thought mobility was a prerequisite for 8 & 9. Hope he surprises everybody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 03, 2009, 04:10:47 PM
Expect big Paddy to line almost as a 4th Half back with someone like Micko Herron or PJ O'Connell hurling in midfield.

Paddy won't do the running most 8 & 9's do but he does have excellent positional sense, good long range score taking ability and a good hand.

Would be a good way of suffocating the Dublin attack but winning a high percentage of poc out with Paddy, Neal & Cormac all excellent in the air.

Agreed that the it looks bad on the county with the corner forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 03, 2009, 04:10:54 PM
its been a serious turn around for CJ to be starting on Sunday, he came into the squad late and has made an impression with his hurling skills. there is no other reason for him being in the team for Sunday.

we are without some good players due to injuries so he has been given a chance.  will we win? sure we've nothing to lose. everyone has us beat by 10/15 points Dublin have done well in div 1 and we came third in div 2. so with form like that we are beaten already.  i'm heading down with some optimism.

i hope that lads play to the best off their ability and come through the game win/lose/draw with their heads held high knowing they gave it their best shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 03, 2009, 09:55:02 PM
Would there not be a chance Paddy will go into FF and Stewart or Mc Gourty will come out to midfield?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 03, 2009, 10:08:41 PM
There is no way Paddy Richmond will last round midfield for 70 minutes in Croke park. I expect to see him in full forward by the tenth minute at the latest. PJ o connell or Karl Stewart will move out the field. Personally I would like to see Stewart at CHF with McManus in midfield or even better CHB. With all due respect to Cormac Donnelly and Neil McAuley they are good hurlers but not the quickest and Johnny Campbell has struggled in the past when players run at him, much better attacking high ball. I can only assume that this team is a front and will line out with a host of changes. Karl McKeegan sweeping betweem full back line and half back line, McManus in midfield with Sean Delargy dropping back to help. It has been said before but starting with two defenders in your front six is not a great way to run up a big score. On the McGourty point I feel a bit sorry for Joe Scullion who had worked his way onto the team during the national league and has now been dropped for the championship, so much for slogging your guts out during the winter  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2009, 09:34:06 AM
Tactically this is the way I think that we will start the game with the personel available to us:

                                               1 Ryan Mc Garry     

2 Kieran Mc Gourty       3 Neil Mc Garry        4 Aaron Graffin 

                      6 Cormac Donnelly

5 Johnny Campbell                             7 Neill Mc Auley

         8 Paddy Richmond

                     
                   9 Karl Mc Keegan                 10 Sean Delargy       

14 Karl Stewart       11 Neil Mc Manus       12 Michael Herron


                13 Conor  Mc Gourty          15 PJ O Connell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:23:12 AM
You need legs and an appetite for hard slog to play in the midfield & half forward. Think paddy will be on the edge of the square after 10 minutes. It's not his game out there. You wouldn't ask eoin kelly (tipp) to do it for the same reasons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 04, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
NAG1,I cant see PJ & CJ in a 2 man FF line,think they would struggle to win enough ball as Dublin may have sweeper in there too. I can understand why Paddy may be in midfield as he would provide quality ball into forward but Croke Park for 70 mins in this weather would be too much for Paddy. I think we can guarantee some positional changes & that Antrim will not play an orthodox 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 04, 2009, 11:09:01 AM
Going slightly against the grain here but i think Paddy will hurl the majority of the game out in the middle of the field.  Think a bit much is being made of his fitness levels, in a recent game against Cushendall he put in a good shift at midfield and impressed me as a centre half back.

Think S&W will be very conscience of the lack of pace in the centre of the defence and will want to get extra bodies their to make there strength count.  Shorty would have been the ideal candidate to go into the defence and use his skill and pace to cover the defence.  Paddy will play in that hole in front of Neilly McGarry when he does get possession he will ask questions of the dublin defence with long raking passes into the forwards.

Personally i wouldn't hurl paddy here, we are missing some of our best forwards and we need all our scoring power up the park but having watched many of the games under S&W and this is what i expect to happen as thankfully they don't tend to name many dummy teams.

tactically i expect

                           Ryan McGarry
Aaron Graffin   Neil McGarry    Ciaran McGourty
                      Paddy Richmond
  Johnny Campbell  Hippy        Neil McAuley
          Micko Herron       Karl McKeegan
PJ O'Connell    Karl Stewart      Sean Delargy
           CJ McGourty        Neil McManus

their will be plenty of changes and Paddy and mcManus may change at some point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 04, 2009, 11:20:39 AM
Looking at the 15 named there are 9 defenders and five forwards and no natural midfielder. Injuriues obviously robbed us of shorty and Brendan Herron but McCluskey should have got a look in, he has plenty of legs at least. With only five forwards picked it would be a nonsense to play one sweeping in the half back line?? We need scores to beat dublin and putting one of your few scoring threats in the defence is not the way to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 04, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
Max not doubting Paddys ability as he is a very good hurler but there would be a world of differance between that Cushendall league match and the intensity of this Dublin match. In fairness to you that looks similar to the formation they will use.Given our lack of scoring forwards we'll have to take the vast majority of our chances.Dublin have very good forwards in Rushe & O'Callaghan.Expect graffin to pick up O'Callaghan. I wouldnt play McCluskey at all,not good at that level for midfield
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:34:42 AM
I hope two hands and myself are proved wrong max.

I genuinely don't think we have the quality to trouble Dublin enough over the full 70 but I hope the effort and endeavour lasts throughout. Shame we hadn't a full panel to pick from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 04, 2009, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 04, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
Max not doubting Paddys ability as he is a very good hurler but there would be a world of differance between that Cushendall league match and the intensity of this Dublin match. In fairness to you that looks similar to the formation they will use.Given our lack of scoring forwards we'll have to take the vast majority of our chances.Dublin have very good forwards in Rushe & O'Callaghan.Expect graffin to pick up O'Callaghan. I wouldnt play McCluskey at all,not good at that level for midfield
Wheres the running power on our team for the big croke park pitch? There is a serious lack of pace in the 15 antrim players named, I hope the weather is damp and cold and windy to slow the game down a bit, we have a few strong hurlers who would suit those conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 04, 2009, 11:58:31 AM
I agree over the lack of pace especially in our half back line,but Eddie McCluskey hasn't much pace at all & was over-ran v Offaly. S&W can only work with what is a limited squad. Brendan Herron & Shorty would have offered alot of mobility & are a big loss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2009, 12:24:19 PM
I agree with most of what has been said lads. We have a sever lack of pace and the only way to crack that is to crowd the game out and make it mesy but i still think Dublin could take us in that kind of game.

Paddy is a miss in the forward line but will depend if they expect him to mark his man while covering the half back line or whether they give dublin an extra defender while pulling SD out to mark paddys man. If it is the former we are in bother and if it is the latter we are still in bother not just so much!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on June 04, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
The following  coaching personnel are now in post:

Games Development Manager –Ciara Ferry
Hurling Development Officer – Kieran Megraw
Hurling  Development Coordinator – Dominic Mc Kinley

They can be contacted at the county Coaching Office in Casement Park

Does this mean "Woody" will not be involved with the county hurling management as he is now a paid coach?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 04, 2009, 03:18:13 PM
no i think the rules were only for provincial or national staff, not county staff. Who is Ciara ferry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheDoc on June 04, 2009, 03:21:47 PM
I think hes paid by the Ulster Council, which would rule him out.

All ive heard is that shes a Dub.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2009, 03:29:07 PM
Still have yet to see our HDO anywhere in NA at a hurling game and thats after three years of already being in the post?

Ladies Gaelic is her background just what we need to drive the Two main sports in our county forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 04, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Are there any county managers not on the payroll? under the invisable table of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2009, 03:52:55 PM
James different issue altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 04:46:34 PM
I do wonder what these paid roles deliver. E.G. I've haven't seen Ciaran McGraw in NA at any coaching course in years ...nor any other county representative. Am I missing something or are these SA positions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 04, 2009, 05:00:24 PM
No the HDO was an all county post , its just he didn't know his way after Hannastown. He did visit the NA coaching courses sometimes but the question is should he not have been leading the coaching and development in hurling in NA? He was in for nearly four years and didn't have one project in NA in that time. But to his credit he in the last year since our esteemed county Sec. came into power wasn't exactly pushed to hard. Whats worse is, rumour has it Seamus Elliott is being ousted not at least he try ed to do something. I don't think woody would have the personality for the schools job, but then we already know in previous posts filled applicants don't actually need one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 04, 2009, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 04, 2009, 11:09:01 AM
Going slightly against the grain here but i think Paddy will hurl the majority of the game out in the middle of the field.  Think a bit much is being made of his fitness levels, in a recent game against Cushendall he put in a good shift at midfield and impressed me as a centre half back.

Think S&W will be very conscience of the lack of pace in the centre of the defence and will want to get extra bodies their to make there strength count.  Shorty would have been the ideal candidate to go into the defence and use his skill and pace to cover the defence.  Paddy will play in that hole in front of Neilly McGarry when he does get possession he will ask questions of the dublin defence with long raking passes into the forwards.

Personally i wouldn't hurl paddy here, we are missing some of our best forwards and we need all our scoring power up the park but having watched many of the games under S&W and this is what i expect to happen as thankfully they don't tend to name many dummy teams.

tactically i expect

                           Ryan McGarry
Aaron Graffin   Neil McGarry    Ciaran McGourty
                      Paddy Richmond
  Johnny Campbell  Hippy        Neil McAuley
          Micko Herron       Karl McKeegan
PJ O'Connell    Karl Stewart      Sean Delargy
           CJ McGourty        Neil McManus

their will be plenty of changes and Paddy and mcManus may change at some point


Something has struck me after reading all the posts about the team for Sunday and the tactics and difference of opinion between posters on all of this; is it not a bad indictment of the current management that on the eve of the 1st championship match in their 3rd year in charge that nobody has a clue about how the team willl line out? Now before i have the county board down on me like a ton of bricks  :P i have a lot of respect for S&W for all the time and effort they have put in to Antrim hurling but surely to God at this stage of their tenure Antrim hurling people should be able to name the county full back, centre half, centre forward and full forward? Even if their were no injuries this week can you name the people who make up the spine of the team? I honestly can't. Is Neil McGarry the full back or is it Hippy? Is the centre half Hippy, or should it be Karl McKeegan or McManus or Graffin? Is McManus the best centre forward and how long more will he play there? Is Stewart or Paddy Richmond the full forward?

Even though Dinny's reign imploded for most of it you knew the spine of the team something which cant be said for the current management. Taking that all in to account i can only see a Dublin victory but hopefully we get a strong Antrim performance oh and watch out for Liam Rushe in the Dublin forwards. Hes got the makings of a top class player and no better manager to bring up to that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
I believe the Antrim team will be individually shown a recorded message from a family member before the match on Sunday................ :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
Is that true about Seamus Elliott James? Who has ousted him and on what grounds? Jesus at County level this county would sicken your hole . Men actually doing something being pushed out where people like K McG lie low for years and still stay on the pay roll. jobs for the boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
Is that true about Seamus Elliott James? Who has ousted him and on what grounds? Jesus at County level this county would sicken your hole . Men actually doing something being pushed out where people like K McG lie low for years and still stay on the pay roll. jobs for the boys.

It is all very cosy in Casement when they are sorting each other out for jobs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
Is that true about Seamus Elliott James? Who has ousted him and on what grounds? Jesus at County level this county would sicken your hole . Men actually doing something being pushed out where people like K McG lie low for years and still stay on the pay roll. jobs for the boys.

Skull to be fair, and I've been involved with many initiatives with naomhgall hurling over the years and Keiran Megraw is at the heart of them. sends regular emails regarding hurling sessions and i was only at one last week at Casement. good guy. I've also been to hurling sessions with Seamus,  and he's a great guy. took us for training a few years ago and was brilliant. loads of respect for him.

lets lay off the blame game here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 04, 2009, 10:32:42 PM
milltown you have highlighted the probelm, seamus would come to belfast no problem but never saw megraw near NA. For god sakes i have seen Tony McCollam in cushendall more times than Kieran Megraw in the last 4 yrs and Tony's not exactly the biggest hurling man about. Fair enough belfast was/is in a mess, but a County Hurling officer should work for the county, not just one Divisional area.

not blaming people, just laying out facts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
Why did Megraw never go to North Antrim? Im sure there would have been plenty of mileage claims in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
he was in ballymena a few times when the indoor stuff was on. seamus looked after north antrim and wasn't in belfast that often
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2009, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 04, 2009, 10:35:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 04, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
Why did Megraw never go to North Antrim? Im sure there would have been plenty of mileage claims in it.
He watched Deliverance once.

Loughguile is not representative of the whole region.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 10:17:17 PM
Is that true about Seamus Elliott James? Who has ousted him and on what grounds? Jesus at County level this county would sicken your hole . Men actually doing something being pushed out where people like K McG lie low for years and still stay on the pay roll. jobs for the boys.

Skull to be fair, and I've been involved with many initiatives with naomhgall hurling over the years and Keiran Megraw is at the heart of them. sends regular emails regarding hurling sessions and i was only at one last week at Casement. good guy. I've also been to hurling sessions with Seamus,  and he's a great guy. took us for training a few years ago and was brilliant. loads of respect for him.

lets lay off the blame game here

Milltown if he is employed in an all county position then I'm perfectly entitled to question what he has been doing if he has done "next to nothing" (I know of nothing personally that he has done regarding developing the game in NA) in North/SW Antrim. I met Kieran nearly 5 years ago in Cushendall at a session Paudie Butler took and he appeared to be a decent guy. Haven't seen or heard of him in NA since and I've had plenty of opportunity to have caught or heard about him in all the years since. Go on tell me where I have got it wrong! Actually tell both of us

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 11:00:36 PM
i'm not in North Antrim so cant tell you what he's done or not done. is seamus employed by the county or Ulster? does his duties include Belfast? and when was the last time you seen him there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
I always thought that Seamus had a NA remit only but that K McG had an all county position. I could be wrong and am prepared to apologise if I am. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 04, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
I always thought that Seamus had a NA remit only but that K McG had an all county position. I could be wrong and am prepared to apologise if I am. Does anyone know?

i had the same understanding. Again a lovely fella, but is the work being done,

those indoor blitzes in Ballymena, who organised them? im sure it was NA
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 11:10:51 PM
exactly. lets not jump in here. these paid roles were always going to annoy or make people question their credentials. I'd say there are others in paid roles who are Shite, but like all proper jobs thats usually the case. but these guys keep their jobs regardless ??? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:19:02 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 04, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
I always thought that Seamus had a NA remit only but that K McG had an all county position. I could be wrong and am prepared to apologise if I am. Does anyone know?

i had the same understanding. Again a lovely fella, but is the work being done,

those indoor blitzes in Ballymena, who organised them? im sure it was NA

All arranged by Seamus Elliott/Niall Kearney/Owen Elliott and have been a huge success for years. To the point that SA sides and many many other sides from further afield compete in them. Tell us what initiatives have came out of SA in all those years milltown that have strategically improved hurling in SA if paid people have been charged to develop the game there? Honest question. I don't know. If anything has been done it appears to be only a reaction to NA successes but as I've said I don't know 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
your right North Antrim (being a separate body from the rest) did the indoor hurling. we (my club) did a lot of the early ones and it was taken on board by the SA board a few years later.

its always been a case of them and us. silly really, but even on this board i can see the divide. personally i think its silly. i hope you don't think that cause your from Belfast then you don't have a passion for hurling and its for the north antrim ones only?

the teams that won these things, namely Ballycastle have done nothing with it so the success of them has yet to be seen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2009, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
its always been a case of them and us. silly really, but even on this board i can see the divide. personally i think its silly. i hope you don't think that cause your from Belfast then you don't have a passion for hurling and its for the north antrim ones only?

f**k me.... you ask what you consider to be straight forward question and you get the Belfast equivalent of the racist card.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 08:56:53 AM
Straightforward answer is that KMcG is responsible for the whole county and has been for the last number of years. SE is responsible for the SW and NA regions.

One man was doing the work and one is a paid Kitman and Liasion for the county hurling team. Make your own mind up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 05, 2009, 09:18:52 AM
Have to say I'm not to cpmfortable about this debate as on a personal level I reckon he is a decent individual but the right man for this job?? Sadly no. Take Rossa and St.Johns out of the equation as they have little interest in the development of hurling throughout Belfast unless those players end up playing for them that is. Where would you strike the average level of the rest of the clubs compared to NA, not even close I would say. Seamus O'Hare and the boys will no doubt be dancing a jig about Rossa winning the feile this year and will hail this as massive progress in hurling dvelopment in Belfast, who are they kidding? The whole system is screaming out for radical change driven by committed ,dynamic, risk taking individuals. The template is there in NA and already underway but the instigators and architects of this development are now brushed aside in favour those who will toe the party line. They will be sniggering up their sleeves on  the Shaw's and Whiterock roads as the old status quo is maintained.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 05, 2009, 10:56:17 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 05, 2009, 10:27:27 AM
Think there's been a few comments on here that been unfair fromsome people RE: the County Hurling Development Officer.  Having known him for the last few years in particular, i have known him to be an extremely hard worker with the genuine interests of hurling development at heart.  I think its unfair to anonymously criticize the man on an online board like this.

I can only speak for South Antrim and i can tell you that he has been at the centre of everything that has been going well in terms of coaching and development.  Things are definitely looking up in Belfast for hurling and although it might take a wee while for that hard work to show, i can assure you that a lot has been down to the man himself.  If i was in a job looking at hurling development, i would have to look at where the priorities i.e. most need was and i think we're all in agreement that Belfast would have been top of that list.  That's where his energies were focussed on and i think he done a respectable enough job.  I'm not sure as to what extent he was involved in North Antrim but if he wasn't centrally involved, then this message board isn't the place to slate him.  There are avenues for that to be done and that's why i think its unfair to say the least.  I'm sure he was managed by someone or something and this is where your gripe should be taken to.

The other point is this: North Antrim is a shining star in terms of where GAA clubs should be.  Dunloy in particular are a leading light and i commend their club.  They epitomize everything good about the club, love of Sport (all codes!!), Culture, language, friendship (off the pitch and after games anyway) and genuine GAA comradeship.  - off on a rant there!

But maybe in terms of the deficit in attention that you may not have received from the HDC is down to your own success and in the success of the organisation in North Antrim in general.  What do you think?

p.s. just in terms of what success has come out of initiatives taken by the HDC in South Antrim.  Firstly, they don't have to be new and innovative - nothing wrong with copying good idea's!  But certainly in SA, more and more kids are hurling now in comparison with the last 5 years.  Already that is a bonus.  We all aren't blessed with the community/parishy idea of the GAA that rural clubs are and hurling has been increasingly difficult to attract kids to.  So to use simple but real maths: Kids not playing hurling = kids not developing = no competition = Belfast not ever going to compete with NA clubs sustainably.  Now the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, we don't know how long this new found interest in hurling will be and if it will sustain itself the whole way through to the vital years to minor and beyond.  But more clubs are making extra effort, more kids are playing hurling, more events are being organised and this will result in kids hurling, interest being there and hopefully development.  

Sorry about the long message lads but i'm bored in work!
Personally I dont think there is that much of a divide & dont dislike any of the Belfast clubs as there is some good people in the differant clubs that you meet up with& have a good talk about the game..however I would have some reservations about the set up.  It seems there is only a couple of clubs putting in any sustained effort. If things have improved why are clubs playing/trying to enter the North Antrim leagues? I appreciate that there is other distractions & alot of dual clubs. I hope that these appointments & the Belfast plan help the situation. But there is a long long way to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 11:05:02 AM
I dont think it should be personal slating match but there is something that just does not feel right about the appointment.

Anyway we can get back to this and no doubt we will.

Predictions for sundays game - I have stated the fact that I am worried about this game.

Two scenario's - Antrim good start tight game could go either way
                       Dublin good start white wash on the cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:19:02 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 04, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
I always thought that Seamus had a NA remit only but that K McG had an all county position. I could be wrong and am prepared to apologise if I am. Does anyone know?

i had the same understanding. Again a lovely fella, but is the work being done,

those indoor blitzes in Ballymena, who organised them? im sure it was NA

All arranged by Seamus Elliott/Niall Kearney/Owen Elliott and have been a huge success for years. To the point that SA sides and many many other sides from further afield compete in them.
Quote from: milltown row on June 04, 2009, 11:30:56 PM


your right North Antrim (being a separate body from the rest) did the indoor hurling. we (my club) did a lot of the early ones and it was taken on board by the SA board a few years later.
its always been a case of them and us. silly really, but even on this board i can see the divide. personally i think its silly. i hope you don't think that cause your from Belfast then you don't have a passion for hurling and its for the north antrim ones only?

the teams that won these things, namely Ballycastle have done nothing with it so the success of them has yet to be seen
Honest question. I don't know. If anything has been done it appears to be only a reaction to NA successes but as I've said I don't know 

i answered it ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2009, 12:42:58 PM
Nice paraphrasing there milltown  :)

Listen.....I hear what yourself and hatchet have said re our HDO. You call it slating. I would prefer to call it a NA perspective of role the HDO has played in his all county position. I am open to critisism if you have any but don't deny me stating my perspective. Hatchet is right that clubs need to step up but you need drivers of change to get into those clubs to effect that change needed (help/support developing structures/recruiting volunteers/coaching courses etc etc) . That is the job of a HDO IMO.

So when there is rumour of the person who has been an intrumental part in developing and actually driving a change in the level of coaching within the NA area being forced out whilst the someone we never see maintains his position by what appears to be purely aping NA's successful initiatives then it is very difficult to see the sense in that. Can any of you understand where I'm coming from if it is true? I'm all for SA getting their house in order but is NA paying the price for that. From what I hear regarding the monies available to NA & SA regarding hurling development it is certainly the case.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 01:09:11 PM
Skull

You have hit the nail on the head NA are suffering for being organised and being effective and now they are being punished for be successful in that. All the developments driven forward and replicated in SA have come from the same place. It is a shame that people ride the coat tails of others in our organisation but this has been the way of it for far too many years with the wrong people being rewarded for it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
i have praised the North Antrim approach for years, Seamus is a class act and still has great passion for coaching and development of hurling, regardless of club (well maybe Loughgiel ;))

anyway if its the case of Keiran getting a job before Seamus well, thats life. I'm sure most people have been interviewed for jobs and didn't get them and thought they were the best man for the job, and currently lads are being paid off when they know they are good but someone else keeps their job!! for all we know Seamus has a job with the Ulster council or decided he couldn't be arsed.

as for us weaker hurling clubs getting our act together, we are trying. lots of dedicated mentors are down trying to win over kids and mainly parents. stupid people think that hurling is dangerous and our wee johnny would get hurt.(annoys me da fook )

for the lesser clubs we have to wait on past players who have sons in and around the same time who are passionate about hurling and hope they get involved. once they do the thats all it takes. currently we are progressing well. while not yet challenging the Rossa's or Johnny's we hope when they come minor and senior that we will be strong again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 01:46:54 PM
MR I hear what you are saying and appreciate it but I think you will find that when it comes out in the wash that it wasnt a matter of the two of them going mano v mano for the job!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 05, 2009, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 01:46:54 PM
MR I hear what you are saying and appreciate it but I think you will find that when it comes out in the wash that it wasnt a matter of the two of them going mano v mano for the job!


Who conducts these interviews? Is it the county board in question or the Ulster council who ultimately pick up the tab?

Who are these coaches answerable to and who sets out their targets and goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 05, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Don't know who conducted the interviews but they all report to Jimmy Darragh. He sets targets & goals etc and report to County Boards & Ulster Council.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 05, 2009, 02:18:50 PM
i would imagine they will be answerable to their line manager the Games Manager, that new girl Ciara. Then they will be answerable to the counties coaching dev committee and county board.

For all the that NA is doing, they still need help as they are trying to get to the levels thats our opponents on Sunday are at with their underage development. NA are only at the beginning of their targets (which are aimed higher than SA's targets). They need as much help to reach their aims and objectives than other area's in the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 05, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Players selected for a trial for NA squad for the championship. will that make much impact?

Blain Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Brendan Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Padraig Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Darren Hamill Shane O'Neills
Michael Abram Shane O'Neills
Martin Ward Shane O'Neills
Chris Matthews Shane O'Neills
Barry Mc Neill Shane O'Neills
Ciaran Campbell Shane O'Neills
Damien Mc Toal Glen Rovers
Seamus Bailey Glen Rovers
Martin Mc Erlain Glen Rovers
Charles Mc Cormick Glen Rovers
Gerard Mc Fetridge Glen Rovers
John Dillon Glen Rovers
Rory Mc Quillan Emmets
Eoin Mc Quillan Emmets
Mark Scally Emmets
Niall Mc Auley Emmets
Brian Mc Neill Con Magees
Neil Mc Cann Con Magees
Damien O'Hagan Con Magees
Stevey Acheson Con Magees
Kieran Mc Keown Con Magees
Niall Donnelly Con Magees
Shane Woulahan Con Magees
Michael Lismore Latharna Og
Marc Larmour Latharna Og
Darren Mc Neill Latharna Og
Conor Laverty St Brigids
Stevie Smyth St Brigids
Michael Devlin St Brigids
James Doherty St Brigids
Aaron Smylie St Brigids
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Stephen Martin St Brigids
James Mc Couaig Carey Faughs
Martin Hunter Carey Faughs
Doug Mc Auley Carey Faughs
Colm Mc Bride Carey Faughs
Sean Mc Laughlin Carey Faughs
Nataniel Hunter Carey Faughs
Tommy Devlin Carey Faughs
Fintan Mc Carry Carey Faughs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 05, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on June 05, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Don't know who conducted the interviews but they all report to Jimmy Darragh. He sets targets & goals etc and report to County Boards & Ulster Council.

So Jimmy would be setting the targets and objectives for all county hurling developement officers throughout Ulster and not the respective county board executives?

now Jimmy should/would have a good working knowledge of Antrim and Belfast hurling in particular but every county has its own wee quirks and oddities especially football dominated counties which the other 8 in Ulster are and I'd have thought this centralised, one shoe fits all approach mightn'd be the best to tackle local issues.

I see we in Down have a new hurling development officer in Mickey McCullough, so best of luck to him as he'll be working with some devious hoors along the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 05, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on June 05, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Don't know who conducted the interviews but they all report to Jimmy Darragh. He sets targets & goals etc and report to County Boards & Ulster Council.

So Jimmy would be setting the targets and objectives for all county hurling developement officers throughout Ulster and not the respective county board executives?

now Jimmy should/would have a good working knowledge of Antrim and Belfast hurling in particular but every county has its own wee quirks and oddities especially football dominated counties which the other 8 in Ulster are and I'd have thought this centralised, one shoe fits all approach mightn'd be the best to tackle local issues.

I see we in Down have a new hurling development officer in Mickey McCullough, so best of luck to him as he'll be working with some devious hoors along the way.

another Belfast man, christ its true we do know more that the north antrim hurlers ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
Seems that way at least it is a progression from the Tyrone job, what was that shout about jobs for the boys?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2009, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
another Belfast man, christ its true we do know more that the north antrim hurlers ;)

In the interview room definately  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 05:58:28 PM
First Goalscorer for their Team  Hide 

D O'Callaghan  10/3 
   
CJ McGourty  6/1 

L Rushe  5/1 
   
M Herron  7/1 

D Treacy  13/2 
   
N McManus  7/1 

A McCrabbe  15/2 
   
K Stewart  7/1 

L Ryan  17/2 
   
PJ O'Connell  8/1 

S Durkin  9/1 
   
P Richmond  8/1 

J McCaffrey  14/1 
   
S Delargy  11/1 

J Boland  14/1 
   
K McKeegan  14/1 

No Dublin Goal  3/1 
   
No Antrim Goal  2/1 

think the best priced is McManus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 05, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
What is the handicap betting?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 05, 2009, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 05, 2009, 07:01:31 PM
What is the handicap betting?
An excellent question Minder, Antrim are 11/10 (+6)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 05, 2009, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 05:58:28 PM
First Goalscorer for their Team  Hide 

D O'Callaghan  10/3 
   
CJ McGourty  6/1 

L Rushe  5/1 
   
M Herron  7/1 

D Treacy  13/2 
   
N McManus  7/1 

A McCrabbe  15/2 
   
K Stewart  7/1 

L Ryan  17/2 
   
PJ O'Connell  8/1 

S Durkin  9/1 
   
P Richmond  8/1 

J McCaffrey  14/1 
   
S Delargy  11/1 

J Boland  14/1 
   
K McKeegan  14/1 

No Dublin Goal  3/1 
   
No Antrim Goal  2/1 

think the best priced is McManus

Best priced is PJ o Connell, goes for goal when there are easy points to be taken. Hopefully will learn as he gets more experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
i think the best price is McManus to score first goal for antrim. he will get round his man and will go for goal. 7/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 05, 2009, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 05, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Players selected for a trial for NA squad for the championship. will that make much impact?

Blain Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Brendan Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Padraig Mc Dermott Shane O'Neills
Darren Hamill Shane O'Neills
Michael Abram Shane O'Neills
Martin Ward Shane O'Neills
Chris Matthews Shane O'Neills
Barry Mc Neill Shane O'Neills
Ciaran Campbell Shane O'Neills
Damien Mc Toal Glen Rovers
Seamus Bailey Glen Rovers
Martin Mc Erlain Glen Rovers
Charles Mc Cormick Glen Rovers
Gerard Mc Fetridge Glen Rovers
John Dillon Glen Rovers
Rory Mc Quillan Emmets
Eoin Mc Quillan Emmets
Mark Scally Emmets
Niall Mc Auley Emmets
Brian Mc Neill Con Magees
Neil Mc Cann Con Magees
Damien O'Hagan Con Magees
Stevey Acheson Con Magees
Kieran Mc Keown Con Magees
Niall Donnelly Con Magees
Shane Woulahan Con Magees
Michael Lismore Latharna Og
Marc Larmour Latharna Og
Darren Mc Neill Latharna Og
Conor Laverty St Brigids
Stevie Smyth St Brigids
Michael Devlin St Brigids
James Doherty St Brigids
Aaron Smylie St Brigids
Liam Kearns St Brigids
Stephen Martin St Brigids
James Mc Couaig Carey Faughs
Martin Hunter Carey Faughs
Doug Mc Auley Carey Faughs
Colm Mc Bride Carey Faughs
Sean Mc Laughlin Carey Faughs
Nataniel Hunter Carey Faughs
Tommy Devlin Carey Faughs
Fintan Mc Carry Carey Faughs


There is a young player, Cassley I think?, from Ballymena who is on the curent county panel, played against westmeath as a sub , surprised he is not on that panel unless Ballymena comes under SW. As for the team themselves some decent enough players at Div 3 level but lack of preparation will hamper them. For any of the combination sides to make an impact they needed to be doing this in March and have a settled 25 by now and be playing challenge matches at the minute against some of the down sides or dungiven or somebody of that ilk. This all looks a bit haphazard and last minute. It unfortunatly reminds me of some of the combination teams Armoy were involved with in the late eighties that lacked in preparation andfailed to make any impact despite the presence of some very good hurlers.
Are any of the other combinations more advanced than NA?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 06, 2009, 06:34:34 PM
Are both Rasharkin and Ballymena in the SW then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Who would be in the SW? It must be quite limited. Rasharkin, Ballymena, Ahoghill and Creggan. Anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2009, 08:57:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Who would be in the SW? It must be quite limited. Rasharkin, Ballymena, Ahoghill and Creggan. Anyone else?
Randalstown are in SW i'd imagine. They would need every decent player in them clubs to commit which will be hard as they are all dual clubs. They would be very weak compared to NA & SA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 07, 2009, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 07, 2009, 03:36:16 PM
That was phish. Was not like a championship match at all. Dublin never got out of 2nd gear and they must have hit about 15 wides in the second half. We where so bad it, our forwards looked out of their depth, McKeegan tried hard, he seemed the only one. CJ should stick to the big ball.


Was CJ there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 07, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
Have to agree with a lot of what hatchetfield has just said. Not so sure about Paddy Richmond at midfield tho definitly should have beeen in full forward after 10 minutes of the second half we were getting completely overrun in the half forward line and midfield by then, only McKeegan showed any bite.
Realistically in the first half we missed two 65s two 21 yd frees another free from wide on the 21 and one from midfield, there may have been more but thats what sticks in my head.  I thought we really had Dublin in trouble despite missing all those chances. Anthony Daly must have thought so to because he made wholesale changes to his side which started to turn things round. Unfortunatley Antrim did not respond to Dalys changes and we were overrun. I thought the defender played well until heads started to drop in the last ten minutes, may well have been tiredness. Johnny Campbell had one of his best games for Antrim I thought and Neal McAuley cleared a ton of ball but it kept coming back down their throats in the second half.
Good marks to the defence for a good sixty minutes, as for the forwards 12 points in 75 minutes of hurling says it all. To win matches you need players who can take scores, we took one of our few score getters and left him at midfield for 65 minutes ???
I did not hear the people abusing S+W but it is poor form, I have said before on here about so called Antrim fans going along hoping the team will lose and cheering when the opposition scores and it is completely stupid. Do these people cheer against there own club teams? It is one thing to have a moan and a bitch in the pub after a game but to cheer against your own team is just nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 07, 2009, 09:26:45 PM
Very disappointing result, they'll get tore into us on the Sunday Game.  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 07, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
Not a lot to be said about today. We are well behind Dublin in the pecking order now. The best thing i heard today was from Ciaran Barr on the radio afterwards. He said its about structures and numbers and said that in Dublin they have 140 in a development squad up to u16 and then they pick the elite from this to go on to minor and u21. Never mind Antrim no other county has those numbers to work with. I think its been said before on here that the Dublin model wont work in Antrim because of the difference in numbers but we have to try and find something more suited to our county. I hope somebody can come up with something soon so that in 10, 20 years we might be able to start competing, maybe nite regularly but even occasionally with the top counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 07, 2009, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 07, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
Not a lot to be said about today. We are well behind Dublin in the pecking order now. The best thing i heard today was from Ciaran Barr on the radio afterwards. He said its about structures and numbers and said that in Dublin they have 140 in a development squad up to u16 and then they pick the elite from this to go on to minor and u21. Never mind Antrim no other county has those numbers to work with. I think its been said before on here that the Dublin model wont work in Antrim because of the difference in numbers but we have to try and find something more suited to our county. I hope somebody can come up with something soon so that in 10, 20 years we might be able to start competing, maybe nite regularly but even occasionally with the top counties.
Dublin have loads more money pumped into them than Antrim. They also have about 30 more Full Time Hurling coaches than Antrim..that is also a massive differance. It was announced today at Croker that Ballyboden St Enda's(who paraded round the pitch)who won the Dublin U14 Feile's at Hurling,Football & either Camogie or Ladies Football have 600 juvenile members. That is a massive amount.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 07, 2009, 10:59:30 PM
Just home from the match myself, very disappointing performance and the dub's were not that good. they were there for the taking but then beat us by 10. Two many lads put in poor shows although some tried u can't fault Delargy, Karl Stewart, and perhaps big paddy and MC Manus fall into that category the other forwards were Shiite and didn't put themselves about to much, Micko and God Mc Goat should  just retire. The defence had a hard day Mc Garry in full back was perhaps the worst defender , very limited in skill but committed alright. I feel he isn't up to county hurling. As for our keeper and those Fu**ing short Puck outs, Jesus Stevie wonder could see they cause us trouble the whole way through the league and then three more today in which hippy saved us a couple of times. And is it just me, but why was MC Garry on his arse for the first goal it wasn't very brave was it? should he not have advancedand cut down the target size.
As for the squads the u14's and u15's are now divisional and seem to have started of very well with plenty of matches  this is the way to go. Barr is right, but what he didn't say was that they were North, West, East and South Dublin teams and each plays plenty of matches and this attracts all the best talent in the county which is the idea behind the divisional squads here now. Also they have 60 gpo's and as of July we will have only one, now thats progression, listen our county board are as bad as Ulster council as long as the hurlers don't cost any money they will  get the counties full backing. Woody has started full time, god he will be popular in North Antrim and even more so in Loughgiel not. I look forward to seeing the new plans coming from our happy county Sec.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 08:39:11 AM
Lads,

I think the summary of the game has been quite fair. It was always going to be a balancing act of bringing paddy out the field any ball that he did play in wasnt sticking because we have no ball winners in that area. The problem is your robbing peter to pay paul, as paddy is a good target man on his day but then who would have been playing the ball in.

The defence worked hard but god did we look pedestrian at times? CmcG in the corner seemed more intent on hitting 'late' with the body that actually making a block on the ball a number of time he could have robbed the forward but wasnt interested in the ball. NmcG is a committed hurler but he doesnt have the raw pace or the hurling for this level. Graffin looked at ease in this company and again showed he is our leading defender and maybe hurler over all. CD is too slow for centre back and doesnt actually seem to have the positional sense either. The two wing men hurled well at times but I would also say that their men did quite alot of hurling too.

Im honestly not sure where to go now with this team, this nonsense of now having 25 committed hurlers for the next manager to take on, as if there havent been that in other squads up to now. Again I look back to Dinny and you will know I am no fan but he had the team at a different level of intensity and pace in our hurling one that we can only dream of now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
Seriously hatchfield where do you come to that conclusion that they are doing a good job? where is your evidence?

Im just curious as to who apart from Ciaran Heron and maybe Pinkie would have made any difference of those that were missing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 09:58:25 AM
It's easy to say I told you so.........but I can't help it...... CJ McG should never have been within an asses roar of a place on the panel. To play a light hurler with a terrible first touch in a two man FF line was very strange, the reality being though that his below par stickwork should have kept him from the panel completely never mind the starting 15 ( and never mind the other reasons). Also S&W showed a real lack of faith in their bench when with 15 to go it was obvious that the game was slipping away and changes should have been made whether they were going to improve things or not.

Thought the effort and intensity in the 1st half was pretty good especially in the middle 3rd but totally disapperared in this area in the second half. But to play a two man one toothed FF line with the breeze ultimately laid bare antrims limitations and ambitions for the game and Dublin responded in the second half although they'll be far from pleased with their performance.

We are where we are. I don't think we should be too down on the team on the whole as there was alot of effort put in in alot of places but the reality is that this County is mentally weak and we should not be surprised when history repeats itself. How we change the mindset will require alot of hard work by alot of people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 09:59:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 09:54:59 AM
Seriously hatchfield where do you come to that conclusion that they are doing a good job? where is your evidence?

Im just curious as to who apart from Ciaran Heron and maybe Pinkie would have made any difference of those that were missing?

Shorty
Winker (if he committed but seems incapable of doing so)

for starters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 10:01:00 AM
Shorty unproven at this level and Winker serious complete lack of committment and wasnt on the panel skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 10:05:39 AM
You asked the question without preconditions...I answered it

Just on the basis that Shorty is unproven at this level  in your opinion, could you point out to me those on the starting 15 who you would say are proven at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 10:12:58 AM
Skull dont get me wrong I wasnt putting any preconditions on the question or on your answer and I take your answer the way it was meant.

But that is part of my point that very few of the boys have actually proved themselves in club hurling let alone county hurling to have some of the ego's that they have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 10:45:56 AM
No bother NAG1

Quote from: Shrek on June 08, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
not defending anyone, but,

can i just ask where are these players meant to prove themselves

is it in a very poor league or maybe a couple of relativley competitive championship matches.

This is the crux of it Shrek IMO. If you don't have a well manned well skilled well orginised well financed complete development structure then we should not be surprised at the outcomes (yesterdays match)

But when you have clubs who struggle to get enough volunteers .......who then struggle to get them to attend coaching courses.......in a county that struggles to procure finance.........how do we move forward without over burdening those that are already overburdened? I struggle with that. You have to look and see what you can deliver and set your expectations in a way that they are grounded in reality but still worth trying to work towards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 10:56:46 AM
The league as we know is poor enough but in my mind these players should be dominating their own clubs and should be the main men and driving force for their teams. Even in a bad league good players should be standing out and putting back to back performances in for their clubs, however there seems to be an attitude that the county players are too good to play in the league games. In the matches I have seen so far this year it would trouble anyone to pick out the county players from club games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 08, 2009, 11:06:30 AM
Going through the team, McGarry didn't have much to do in nets. Kieran McGourty done ok in the corner. Neil McGarry struggled out the pitch abit as he doesnt have the stickwork at the top level.  Hippy & Neilly were nearly playing in the same space in the first half which meant we coped ok in there..but I dont think Hippy has the mobility to sweep across like say McManus could do. When it was more spread in the 2nd half Hippy struggled & more space developed down the middle. Graffin done ok apart from 2 bad 10 minutes spells(which were shown in the Sunday Game), one in each half...but when you have alot of ball going into one of the top forwards in Ireland for 70 minutes who are going to concede. Johnny done grand & cleared a few balls. Alot of the ball was away from JC & McGourty & down the other side. Neal McA was very good in the first half..some great tackles & catches which helped lift us in the last 10 minutes before Half Time.

Karl tried really hard in Midfield right to the end, one of the few to do so, set up a couple of good scores in 1st Half. Paddy done ok at times but should have been moved to FF after 5/10 minutes of 2nd Half. PJ was completely lost & rightly subsitutued. Was Brendan Herron fight to start??

Our HF line was cleaned out, Herron & Delargy very poor apart from 1 point each. Both should have been off earlier. Your HF line is one of your most important lines in the pitch & in the 2nd half we couldn't get the ball past their HB line. The constant changing of McManus & Stewart didn't help either. Why was McManus, arguably the best hurler in Antrim left in FF in 2nd half with about 2 balls directed to him. CJ was a like a wee boy out there, cant believe he stayed on the whole match.

Tactics weren't great I thought. 2 man FF line in 1st half with the breeze wasn't working. Its not as if Dublin were that good. A lot of bad wides from frees & open play. McManus's 3 goal chances were vital . Thought Shane McNaughton deserved a run one for CJ. Not saying that no-one tried but didn't think that anyone really threw themselves into tackles bar or put their bodies on the line bar Karl & Neal McAuley...especially in the 2nd Half. Looked like a team with few leaders

Overall..are we really surprised we struggled..the hurlers are simply not there. When Dinny was manager he had a really good team with players at their peak...Most of them big strong men who could win their own ball..not 20/21 year old kids like we have now. Who else in the county would make a big differance. Obviously Shorty & Ciaran Herron were injured. Only really Watson who won't commit or maybem Tosh would help. Anyone else??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 11:37:06 AM
Do we think S&W will stay on after some of the reports earlier in the week?

Can someone post up the article that Loughnane did in the Irish Star on saturday, I didnt see it but i think he was very tough on the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 11:41:17 AM
What really got on my goat was the switch of CJ to the 3/4 line in the second half. What? to go out and win dirty ball?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 11:43:11 AM
Skull best not to think of that one or you will end up rocking back and forth in a padded cell

Sure going by the papers and tv he was ready for the big stage and it wouldnt phase him playing in croke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on June 08, 2009, 11:45:15 AM
QuoteCan someone post up the article that Loughnane did in the Irish Star on saturday, I didnt see it but i think he was very tough on the squad.

Dunno if the Irish Star articles are online.  He doesn't like Sambo either from what I read in that article!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 11:48:38 AM
Yeah thats why I was looking for it, wonder what happened there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2009, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2009, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 05, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
another Belfast man, christ its true we do know more that the north antrim hurlers ;)

In the interview room definately  :)

Some of these interview lads are easily pleased with a bit of powerpoint allegedly  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2009, 01:28:48 PM
Sambo gave this very thread (I assume it is this one!) a mention in the Sunday Times yesterday, when he mentioned that there is a website where arseholes go on every day and tell him and Woody what they are doing wrong!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
ok he had a crap game, but lads he didn't pick himself, the managers picked him. they also picked the other 14 players who didn't perform in the second half.

its oh so easy being the experts. those lads turned up for that match prepared but were beaten by a better team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on June 08, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
QuoteSambo gave this very thread (I assume it is this one!) a mention in the Sunday Times yesterday, when he mentioned that there is a website where arseholes go on every day and tell him and Woody what they are doing wrong!

Sunday Times, what next for you Tony?  Nuts and Zoo during the week to Sunday Times, you really are a strange chap!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
ok he had a crap game, but lads he didn't pick himself, the managers picked him. they also picked the other 14 players who didn't perform in the second half.

its oh so easy being the experts. those lads turned up for that match prepared but were beaten by a better team

My point is he should never have been there in the first place as he is not and possibly never will be up to that standard. His man was throwing him about like a rag doll.
Sambo got what was coming yesterday for picking him. McGoat was disciplined by the county football as they where looking to set a no nonsense policy, then S&W award him with a call up to the hurling? Smooth guys. Could name 15 better forwards than him.

he was recently asked back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 01:58:55 PM
MR is right he didnt pick himself.

The managers should hold their hands up on that one, the lads didnt perform in all honesty but the fact is that we should be competing better than we did on sunday and I mean in a physical sense we should be giving everything and flying into tackles which we werent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 08, 2009, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
ok he had a crap game, but lads he didn't pick himself, the managers picked him. they also picked the other 14 players who didn't perform in the second half.

its oh so easy being the experts. those lads turned up for that match prepared but were beaten by a better team

My point is he should never have been there in the first place as he is not and possibly never will be up to that standard. His man was throwing him about like a rag doll.
Sambo got what was coming yesterday for picking him. McGoat was disciplined by the county football as they where looking to set a no nonsense policy, then S&W award him with a call up to the hurling? Smooth guys. Could name 15 better forwards than him.

he's not up to any inter -county standard at present--he's too light and obviously needs to hit the weights hard-what has he been doing since minor?? It's a disgrace that he hasnt bulked up. In hurlin and football he hides in behind lookin for a Primary school ball over the top so that he's in on goal with no man to beat. In fairness he has to do this as he has no strength and cant get out in front of a pyshical man. He did look like a boy lost yesterday and did what Niall McKeever did in the Div 4 football final when he fell over the end line in the first half unchallenged after twice failing to pick the ball up--he must have skill in trainin(probably under no pace or psysical pressure) otherwise he wouldnt have been kept on for 70 minutes--it's true that other panelists must have felt sick to their very core that they didnt get out onto that grass when a fella who just turned up and didnt try a leg stayed on for the whole match--but as Milltown said--he didnt pick himself--i reckon the county are scared of him in  a way and dont want to lose him so pander to him incase he throws a strop and leaves like Winker.

As for the game--we should have been well ahead at half time --Karl Stewart tried the hardest of the forwards but struggled from play and frees. The paper said that McManus was unlucky but he really should have buried that21 yard free and the penalty --he was slow releasing shots also. Sean Delargy was very poor--striking was poor and a blind man could see he should have been taken off before Micko. SD doesnt look like much of a forward. Cormac D was slow and one time in particular he jogged to a ball he should have been first to in the first half and a Dub subsequently beat him to the ball. Big Richmond in the middle has great hands and skillfully found men with the hand to open the play up but he tired as the game wore on. McKeegan tried hard in spurts. Corner backs battled well and Graffin did catch a few well above his head but Dotsie is some player. Our strikin is still poor. It has been for as long as i can remember. I hate Antrim games that are over long before the finish.

We need teams with heart and guts pulling together. How can that happen when players are only coming onto a panel a few weeks before championship and taking people's spots--no matter if the panel agrees to it--there will always be some people on the panel who've been there all year and are ragin about it.

Keeper should have stayed on his feet for 1st goal but handling was good--short poc outs were ok at keepin possession but on some occasions he passed stupidly, a couple of times he played suicide passes to C Donnelly. We just stopped in 2nd half and couldnt win a ball around the middle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
ok he had a crap game, but lads he didn't pick himself, the managers picked him. they also picked the other 14 players who didn't perform in the second half.

its oh so easy being the experts. those lads turned up for that match prepared but were beaten by a better team

Don't disagree with any of that milltown. You are right ...he didn't pick himself. I'd like to know why he was and if anybody can remember ever seeing him playing a good game. I have never heard of him talked about and have only seen him play senior once a couple of years ago in the championship and he was better yesterday. So on my view it was unfair for him to be out there. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm just not sure what  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 08, 2009, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2009, 12:58:22 PM
What must the fringe players on this squad feel like? The players that have slogged their guts out over the dark nights with all this 'physical training' they have been doing (not in evidence yesterday). Because to see that prima dona (CJ) walk onto croke park and play like that, well, that's one hell of a kick in the teeth for anybody.

Sound hurling managerial logic suggests that giving someone with no hurling championship or league experience a game in Croke Park, possibly Antrims biggest game in many a year, very much a gamble, but not only just a gamble, more an act of hurling suicide.

Antrim under the stewardship of Sambo & Woody, however, have rarely operated on the basis of sound hurling logic and parachuting in CJ McGoat was just desperate measure that Sambo was hoping would turn into a masterstroke.

I think the Cork game will be the final nail in Sambo & Woody's coffin, trust me, it is a good thing.



Did we get Cork in the draw? I did not know who we got
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 08, 2009, 02:55:54 PM
yes Cork  :-[

as much as I'd like to head down to watch that match, I'll be busy at the hairdressers (anyone who knows me will know that wont take long :D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 08, 2009, 03:37:43 PM
When and where is it on, not that it makes much difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 08, 2009, 03:45:20 PM
Played in the national league, currently on the sick list
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 04:20:11 PM
Hatchfield
I think you have just lost all credibility when calling for McKilop to be used!  ;)

Also Tosh was told he wasnt needed wasnt a matter of him not making himself available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2009, 04:39:17 PM
Hatchfield maybe you didnt have that much to lose.

I agree with your sentiment about McKilop just think you picked the wrong player to make it with. I think that show the genuine lack of depth to the panel in all honesty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
No
You show proper respect to the panel by using them when it is clear that it was not happening for some individuals regardless of whether or not you think it is going to make a massive difference to the result. Those boys have bust their balls in training same as the starting 15. To only use 2 subs (1 in the 2nd half) was not good form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 08, 2009, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2009, 01:28:48 PM
Sambo gave this very thread (I assume it is this one!) a mention in the Sunday Times yesterday, when he mentioned that there is a website where arseholes go on every day and tell him and Woody what they are doing wrong!

Getting fed up with this notion we are all Anti Antrim faceless 'arseholes' on this board.  Its a discussion forum, its time antrim board and managers realised that these are the types of opinions being offered in pubs up and down the county.  Sure we all know the hurlers on the ditch do it better than the rest

As for the game, no major criticism of the team, thought most put in a honest effort but nerves/occassion got the better of them.  with the performance Dublin put in Antrim could have won the game had they played anywhere near there potential but wides, saves and mistakes where just too common.

I can understand S&W wanting to bring in those talented youngsters but on reflection i think the panel that took the field for the Christy Ring in 06 was stronger than the one that ran out yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 08, 2009, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
No
You show proper respect to the panel by using them when it is clear that it was not happening for some individuals regardless of whether or not you think it is going to make a massive difference to the result. Those boys have bust their balls in training same as the starting 15. To only use 2 subs (1 in the 2nd half) was not good form.
They used 3 subs...Brendan Herron, Joey Scullion & Paddy McGill. Shane McNaughton should have been brough on for CJ....abit like Skull said..it's not as if he could have done any worse??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
oh yeah...joey scullion....sorry ....point still stands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 08, 2009, 05:46:22 PM
if i were shane i'd be dissappointed big time. has proven to be one of the best forwards in antrim last yr in the championship (antrim & ulster) and was vital for us winning the championship.

what have any of the others proved in antrim? but we have to acknowledge the fact, not many of our players are top intercounty standard, but to play the best of what is available IN ANTRIM is very important.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2009, 07:25:44 PM
Quote from: Shrek on June 08, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 08, 2009, 04:28:16 PM
LOL!!  Honestly, i just thought you know what, if CJ and Micko were as poor as they were and no other subs were used - McKillop who has hurled all year and who done well in the match v Limerick although a poor game, i thought he at least deserved 10 minutes just like the rest of the subs!!

In terms of the Tosh thing, if that's true then thats another huge blunder of S&W's.  So because he wasn't available at a certain stage, he wasn't allowed to be part of it but CJ who disrespected the Senior Football Panel and county and who has yet to prove himself in Division 2 even was??  That's a disgrace. Tosh is one of the best hurlers in this county and has proven it - we need him.  he hasn't many years left either!!

By the way, you're the first man to say i have credibility on this!!  ;D

where, when  ???

good hurler yeah, and the county could do with him among others, but dont overdo it.
Spoken like a true Ruairi.

Tosh has loads to offer this team from both a playing and coaching perspective. He might be over 30 now but he's still in good nick and the boys in the front 6 yesterday could learn a thing or two from him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2009, 08:42:30 PM
Was shane mcnaughton injured at all? I thought he was hence CJ being picked. I hope I'm right there as if not it's a terrible decision not to bring him on...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 08, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 08, 2009, 08:42:30 PM
Was shane mcnaughton injured at all? I thought he was hence CJ being picked. I hope I'm right there as if not it's a terrible decision not to bring him on...

and by his own father of all people!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 08, 2009, 09:35:14 PM
It has all been pretty well covered. The most striking thing about yesterday was our fitness levels, or lack of. You can talk all you want about structures and Dublin getting all the funding but if you dont have an intercounty team that is physically conditioned to last 70mins + you havent a hope. I dont know whether it is due to the training they are doing or what the fellas are at when they are not at training.

Teams know if they keep with Antrim until the 50 min mark there is a good chance the arse will fall out of them. The HF line was very poor, Sean Delargy hardly hit a ball and CB is his position. He isnt a forward at that level. Karl Mc Keegan was the only one that came out of the game with any pride. I expected a lot more from Mc Manus, he was taking too much out of the ball, in the Antrim league his fitness levels stand him in great stead but at this level the opposition can keep with you when you are continually soloing the ball. Graffin had a tough time but stuck at it well. Hippy Donnelly is not mobile enough for CHB. Neill Mc Auley was impressive in the first half. I think it has all been covered about CJ, i have seen him hurling about a dozen times for St Galls and he has never been anything other than average. That and the Kevin Mc Gourty experiment from last year are pretty damning against S & W.

As regards Tosh why would he go back under the current management after the way he was treated two years ago? I know one thing for certain, he wouldnt have been bent over gasping after 50 mins yesterday.


I see someone said earlier we play Cork now, the draw hasnt been made yet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
Still very disappointed over yesterday. Despite the speculation, thought there was a reasonable enough Antrim crowd down for the match - certainly plenty of kids in full colour.

Agree with much of what has been said before. Got a bit nervous when I saw the warm up down in front of me - a lot of balls not going to hand or stick. Got even more nervous when I saw the pre-match huddle. While I'm not at all into this standing in a circle looking into each others eyes stuff, when you have one or two players standing outside tapping a ball about during the middle of it, you wonder whats going on generally in the camp.

Thought Antrim battled back very well after conceding the goal and a couple of quick points and dominated the last 15 of the first half. Half back and midfield were really on top. As always, scores were the problem. Why did McManus go for goals three times when a point was for the taking? Of course, if any one had gone in, I would be saying something else. He also seemed to go for exactly the same place in the two strikes from placed balls.

Half time came too early for us but I thought when Brendan Herron put over the equalising point we were at least going to be in for a game in the second half. Christ was I wrong! I couldn't understand why S&W persisted with McManus in at full forward when the ball wasn't getting over the half way line - it would have seemed sensible to bring him out to midfield to at least win/break a ball or two.

S&W were down in front of me and I couldn't understand their apparent lack of involvement as ball after ball was turned back on us from the puck-out - at least try to change things up a bit lads. They seemed as shell shocked as the rest of us.

The CJ experiment simply didn't work. While I think he can be a handy enough hurler, he doesn't have the physique to win his own ball. Antrim don't have a team that can carry someone like CJ - everyone else is having enough trouble with getting their own ball.

Actually, the two man full forward line of CJ and Karl was a bit of a disaster. I have enormous time for Karl Stewart as a hurler, but again, he doesn't have the physique to carry out that role that was asked of him.

On that point, S&W have been using the two man full forward with a man dropping back to cover midfield/half-back for as long as I can remember. Paul Shields did it against Galway in a minor quarter-final 3 or 4 years ago. In one of the Sunday papers, Jamesie O'Connor was predicting that's what Antrim would use and that's exactly how it turned out. While I appreciate we dont have a multitude of natural forwards, it's really setting out a lack of ambition when you go straight into it when playing with a wind.

Where to now, God only knows. Would love to know what the feeling in the camp is at the minute. I saw a few people have been suggesting we get Cork in the qualifies. I dont think the draw has been made yet, but I dont know what would be better - getting Cork and getting blown out of it or getting Laois and maybe struggling into the next round, then to be blown out of it.

I see S&W are quitting at the end of this year. Probably no bad thing as they have been over many of these players for 4 or 5 years and things always go stale. Don't know who the hell we are going to get to come in - ideally a "name" from the south, but where are the expenses going to come from???

Still think the major screw up of the last few years was the under 21 team made up of the two good minor teams allowing themselves to be caught by Derry when Ulster played Leinster (Dublin) in an All Ireland semi.

Anyway, sure if it was easy following Antrim, everyone would be doing it  . . . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 08, 2009, 10:24:45 PM
I was under the impression we get a "loser" in Munster, either Cork or losers of Waterford v Limerick. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 08, 2009, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 08, 2009, 10:24:45 PM
I was under the impression we get a "loser" in Munster, either Cork or losers of Waterford v Limerick. Could be wrong.
Thought that. But the Admin on the county website said we play Cork, Laois or Offaly. Not 100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 08, 2009, 10:24:45 PM
I was under the impression we get a "loser" in Munster, either Cork or losers of Waterford v Limerick. Could be wrong.

I think us, Cork, Offaly and Laois (all as first round losers) are in an open draw. Could be wrong too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2009, 10:45:41 PM
I think it's just an open draw.

If we get Cork it's a disaster. If we get Offaly you never know though they'll be wanting to put the wexford performance behind them. Laois should be beatable but on yesterday's performance there are no guarantees of anything...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 09, 2009, 05:52:35 AM
Sunday I was coaching young kids, I didn't even ask for the result someone told me. Heard from one of the players a few weeks back say that trainings were "brutal". That was enough. So to protect myself from severe dissapointment/depression I blocked the game out of my head. Self counseling if you will. Its much easier that way. I'm not going to blame anyone as we all have our limitations. I dread still being in the Mc Carthy there is going to be more rough times a head. PS Heard there was nothing for the boys to eat after the game in Croke Park either. You would think Croke Park would have put on something for them. Just typical thoughtlessness from head quarters. No puck a round no tea no nothing no respect. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 09, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
Nothing but a bunch of cnuts in Croke Park or any County Ground on a big day. The least these boys can be afforded after busting their guts in from of all the Gaels who paid plenty into the GAA coffers to support them is treat them right and give them a decent bite to eat. Unreal .... still treating teams that way. Talk about making it easy for the GPA. :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 09, 2009, 10:19:31 AM
Hatchfield lets just make the other thing clear as well Tosh was made to feel like he was surplus to requirements and in S&W's eyes he was because they saw all these great minors coming through from their minor teams to take his place. Now tell me if they have replaced him suitably?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Thats cool Hatchfield but that was the case that he was more or less forced out. He blows very hot and very cold and that was a failing throughout his county career and maybe why managers found it difficult to rely on him consistently. No doubt a complete and utter talent with stick that would be unrivalled anywhere in Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2009, 01:16:22 PM
Performance, or lack of, had nothing to do with Tosh being "forced out". You can take that to the bank. One thing is for certain if he performed like any of the forwards on Sunday he would have been off after 15 mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 09, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
Wouldn't have to read too much into what you are sayin Minder that its the usual old parochial shite that keeps us where we are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2009, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 09, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
Wouldn't have to read too much into what you are sayin Minder that its the usual old parochial shite that keeps us where we are.
What do you mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 09, 2009, 02:36:44 PM
Apparently only 14 folk outa of the 40+ players selected for the N Antrim select side trials turned up on saturday evening!  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 09, 2009, 02:59:19 PM
In one hand you have a quality player plus IMO would bring a lot of other skills that would be beneficial to the team,a useful fella to have about the place yet he's pushed out. In the other you have a manager(doing the pushing) living over the hedge who may for some perverse reason have formed a deep seated negative opinion of said individual. Way off the mark?? I honestly dont know but very posible in this fckd up county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 09, 2009, 03:27:47 PM
Last Man in all honesty I think you have hit the nail on the head as to what happened with him.

As for the NA select that is disappointing but not overly suprising there should be more of a push going on this than there currently is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 09, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
Obviously tosh would have been a better option than some, but I think his loyality to Jingo and support for him would have maybe made S & W feel a bit uneasy as the way they took the post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 09, 2009, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 09, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
Obviously tosh would have been a better option than some, but I think his loyality to Jingo and support for him would have maybe made S & W feel a bit uneasy as the way they took the post.
Let's not dredge up the past. Suffice to say the problem was not with Tosh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2009, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 09, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
Obviously tosh would have been a better option than some, but I think his loyality to Jingo and support for him would have maybe made S & W feel a bit uneasy as the way they took the post.
Im not sure you would call it "loyalty" to Jingo, Tosh was asked to shaft him by a member of the county executive when they were in New York, by going to the press and saying he had no confidence in Jingo. He refused, call it "loyalty", decency whatever. Tosh knew Jingo had his faults and knew he would have to bring in a hurling trainer,as the training was shite, if he was going to come back the next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 09, 2009, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2009, 12:42:58 PM
Nice paraphrasing there milltown  :)

Listen.....I hear what yourself and hatchet have said re our HDO. You call it slating. I would prefer to call it a NA perspective of role the HDO has played in his all county position. I am open to critisism if you have any but don't deny me stating my perspective. Hatchet is right that clubs need to step up but you need drivers of change to get into those clubs to effect that change needed (help/support developing structures/recruiting volunteers/coaching courses etc etc) . That is the job of a HDO IMO.

So when there is rumour of the person who has been an intrumental part in developing and actually driving a change in the level of coaching within the NA area being forced out whilst the someone we never see maintains his position by what appears to be purely aping NA's successful initiatives then it is very difficult to see the sense in that. Can any of you understand where I'm coming from if it is true? I'm all for SA getting their house in order but is NA paying the price for that. From what I hear regarding the monies available to NA & SA regarding hurling development it is certainly the case.



Found out that Seamus Elliott was "retired" by our administration even though he wanted to continue in the role. Well done Frankie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 09, 2009, 10:16:25 PM
This Shite about Tosh is being our saviour is a load of crap, when in a big match outside Ulster did he put a tackle in, No never, he thinks tackle is bought in a fishing shop. When he was there he was constantly doing his own thing a bit like McFaul, neither team players, neither pass the ball, Lads get real, When he plays against us all he needs is one of our half backs or big sculy to rub up against his and he turns green.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: JamesH on June 09, 2009, 10:16:25 PM
This Shite about Tosh is being our saviour is a load of crap, when in a big match outside Ulster did he put a tackle in, No never, he thinks tackle is bought in a fishing shop. When he was there he was constantly doing his own thing a bit like McFaul, neither team players, neither pass the ball, Lads get real, When he plays against us all he needs is one of our half backs or big sculy to rub up against his and he turns green.

Who said he was our "saviour" ? The bitterness is spewing out of you, but i know your sort. Maybe we should just put the whole Cushendall team out for Antrim as you suggested ealier this year. Did Tosh not take about 1-4 off Scullion in the first half of the Championship last year before being shifted out the field by our management for some reason. Speak to any of the Dall HURLERS and they will tell you Toshs worth, not the gobshites that sit in the Lurig and wouldnt know what end of a hurl to use..............I wonder what bracket you fall into.......

I dont think i have ever heard you say a good word about a player from outside Cushendall. Its fellas like you that then find it strange when not everyone in the county is cheering for Cushendall when they are playing in the All Ireland series. Maybe the penny will drop one day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 09, 2009, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 09, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: JamesH on June 09, 2009, 10:16:25 PM
This Shite about Tosh is being our saviour is a load of crap, when in a big match outside Ulster did he put a tackle in, No never, he thinks tackle is bought in a fishing shop. When he was there he was constantly doing his own thing a bit like McFaul, neither team players, neither pass the ball, Lads get real, When he plays against us all he needs is one of our half backs or big sculy to rub up against his and he turns green.

Who said he was our "saviour" ? The bitterness is spewing out of you, but i know your sort. Maybe we should just put the whole Cushendall team out for Antrim as you suggested ealier this year. Did Tosh not take about 1-4 off Scullion in the first half of the Championship last year before being shifted out the field by our management for some reason. Speak to any of the Dall HURLERS and they will tell you Toshs worth, not the gobshites that sit in the Lurig and wouldnt know what end of a hurl to use..............I wonder what bracket you fall into.......

I dont think i have ever heard you say a good word about a player from outside Cushendall. Its fellas like you that then find it strange when not everyone in the county is cheering for Cushendall when they are playing in the All Ireland series. Maybe the penny will drop one day.



minder i think thats maybe a bit over the top..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2009, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 09, 2009, 11:59:40 PM
Oh God, look what i have started!!  Just you's two meet up half way between Cushendall and Waterfoot and have a good owl scrap to sort it out!!

Seriously but lads, when i mentioned Tosh, i wasn't suggesting that he was our knight in shining armour.  JamesH, i'm sure Tosh has been marked well in the past by a lot of players maybe including the one's you have mentioned.  That's fair enough, tell me a player who hasn't been marked well in the lives or a player that doesn't have a bogey team etc.  Anyone with a bit of knowledge about hurling will tell you that Tosh is a class act and a loss to Antrim.  Over the last few years of his county hurling days, he was excellent inside and outside of Ulster.  However my point about him wasn't that Antrim are donald ducked without him, it was that he was the type of ball winning forward that we didn't have v Dublin on Sunday.  That's all.  You don't need to get your back up, it certainly seems like a parochial thing that you can't see his talent (that is of course if you are from the Dall).  But play Tosh up front and he'll give any full back a run for his money, he's strong, quick, has a good hurling brain and has great stickwork.  You can't deny that and players like him don't come around very often.  And again, v Dublin we just didn't have that type of player. We had CJ (an overrated waif more interested in getting in the papers), Delargy who was poor, Micko who was also very poor!! The other two forwards put in a good enough shift but it just didn't happen for them.  Now bar Paddy Richmond on the edge of the square and possibly winker, who else would you pick in the county that would be a better option than Johnny?
Good post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 09:09:27 AM
Shrek

Cant agree more, we need to get back to a situation where the players are playing regularly and in a competition of value.
Question is any ideas of how to make the league meaningful again after years of neglect?

Also I would be looking at the structures all the way down the ladder because if we dont get that right then we are going to be continually having this debate in years to come. (And to that end Skulls last post is certainly not a step in the right direction)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 10, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2009, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 09, 2009, 11:59:40 PM
Oh God, look what i have started!!  Just you's two meet up half way between Cushendall and Waterfoot and have a good owl scrap to sort it out!!

Seriously but lads, when i mentioned Tosh, i wasn't suggesting that he was our knight in shining armour.  JamesH, i'm sure Tosh has been marked well in the past by a lot of players maybe including the one's you have mentioned.  That's fair enough, tell me a player who hasn't been marked well in the lives or a player that doesn't have a bogey team etc.  Anyone with a bit of knowledge about hurling will tell you that Tosh is a class act and a loss to Antrim.  Over the last few years of his county hurling days, he was excellent inside and outside of Ulster.  However my point about him wasn't that Antrim are donald ducked without him, it was that he was the type of ball winning forward that we didn't have v Dublin on Sunday.  That's all.  You don't need to get your back up, it certainly seems like a parochial thing that you can't see his talent (that is of course if you are from the Dall).  But play Tosh up front and he'll give any full back a run for his money, he's strong, quick, has a good hurling brain and has great stickwork.  You can't deny that and players like him don't come around very often.  And again, v Dublin we just didn't have that type of player. We had CJ (an overrated waif more interested in getting in the papers), Delargy who was poor, Micko who was also very poor!! The other two forwards put in a good enough shift but it just didn't happen for them.  Now bar Paddy Richmond on the edge of the square and possibly winker, who else would you pick in the county that would be a better option than Johnny?
Good post.

Yeah good post hatchet.....but this further explaination of your comments on Johnny Tosh weren't need IMO. I certainly knew what you were saying as I think others did. Although Minder took to it like a red rag, JamesH had no reason to conclude that ANYBODY was saying he was "our saviour". Minder mightn't be that far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
Would be interesting to see a break down of the number of injuries picked up by the county squad during county training as opposed to club league games? Just as a tol for comparing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2009, 11:38:01 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 10, 2009, 10:44:52 AM
I agree with most of what you were saying Shrek.  The sooner the senior management realise (like Mickey Harte has done) that players need to be playing in their leagues the better.  Not only does it bring value to the league, it will raise standards, invigorate the club scene once again and renew interest in hurling.

Remember the Sunday days out (the weather always seemed to be better too :D) when the reserves played first, then the seniors.  They weren't just hurling matches, they were family and community days out.  We lost all of that in the refix culture.  Mnay are to blame for this of course but i think that the county managers have nothing to lose by allowing our stars to be playing in the leagues for their clubs.  We won't have that all of the time and there will be times (i.e. two weeks before championship) that they will be needed but regular match fitness is better than training any day of the week.

Another good point was made though that this needs to be sustainable.  South Antrim needs to get its act together in terms of hurling.  There are some positive signs coming our of the last few years but its still nowhere near on a par with NA which is the standard of hurling interest we need to create.
Everyone agrees that we need to have sustained meaningful matches..but what is the solution??How do we achieve a league where matches are important & not played just to get them over & done with??

Dont know where the idea that the county managers stop players playing league matches(OK..One weekend the matches were moved to the Saturday cos of the Clare friendly). It is the clubs that stop the matches because they dont want to do without their county players during the summer when all the county matches are on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 10, 2009, 11:57:49 AM
Very niave Two Hands. You don't think that the fixture list (with all it's gaps between games)  is constructed in a way to suit county preparations? And tell me when the U21 championship is again?

Cannot understand why we put all our eggs in the one basket every year. League matches coming in fits and starts is no way to run things from a player perspective. Of course it'll all go off in August as it always does.





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 12:05:51 PM
There would be nothing wrong IMO with playing the leagues right up to the weekend before a county game with those fixtures scheduled for that week put back to the Wednesday night following the game. Play all the way through May June July August and if your lucky enough Sept, that is when hurling was intended to be played not in October Nov or even March most years.

What better preparation for a big game than say a Dunloy Loughgiel match the week before or any game with the co down teams, better than all the training that you could do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2009, 12:19:34 PM
if you were county manager would you not want to see your players as much as possible? What i'm saying is it that is too simple to blame county managers? Was it the county managers faults for the poor league matches that were played 3/4 weeks ago? Was it f**k!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 10, 2009, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 12:05:51 PM
There would be nothing wrong IMO with playing the leagues right up to the weekend before a county game with those fixtures scheduled for that week put back to the Wednesday night following the game. Play all the way through May June July August and if your lucky enough Sept, that is when hurling was intended to be played not in October Nov or even March most years.

What better preparation for a big game than say a Dunloy Loughgiel match the week before or any game with the co down teams, better than all the training that you could do.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2009, 12:48:59 PM
Brian Cody knows it's ok to play league matches as the standard in Kilkenny is good,but the standard up here in league matches are shite.boys turn up hungover,using injury as an excuse,going through the motions....can anyone really remember a cracking league match in the last year or so?the leagues are crap cos generally the effort & standards are crap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 01:50:57 PM
Yes two hands I agree but thats my point how do we incentivise the league to make it worthwhile to compete in?

I would say if the clubs had something to go for in the league you would soon see a change of attitude and especially if the games were coming thick and fast throughout the summer months.

Anyone any ideas on how to incentivise the league for clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 10, 2009, 02:07:06 PM
Would love it if the leagues where well structured with games every weekend in summer with the weekends Antrim are playing the large base of club supporters actually wieghing in behind the Saffrons.

I actually think thats the way it should be with the County teams across the whole country meeting up only in the week leading up to a game.  Similar to how international soccer works, so that the boys in form are the boys in the squad.  Would never happen because of the pressure on county teams but if it did, instantly club fixtures are no longer a problem, the cost of running a team is reduced significantly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 10, 2009, 11:34:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 01:50:57 PM
Yes two hands I agree but thats my point how do we incentivise the league to make it worthwhile to compete in?

I would say if the clubs had something to go for in the league you would soon see a change of attitude and especially if the games were coming thick and fast throughout the summer months.

Anyone any ideas on how to incentivise the league for clubs?
Ensure all league games played before mid august and championship draw dictated by league position ie 1st v 8 2nd v 7th etc. Means the league is played in  the summer and matters, wouldnt suit cushendall though who usually start training round June
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 11, 2009, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 10, 2009, 11:34:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2009, 01:50:57 PM
Yes two hands I agree but thats my point how do we incentivise the league to make it worthwhile to compete in?

I would say if the clubs had something to go for in the league you would soon see a change of attitude and especially if the games were coming thick and fast throughout the summer months.

Anyone any ideas on how to incentivise the league for clubs?
Ensure all league games played before mid august and championship draw dictated by league position ie 1st v 8 2nd v 7th etc. Means the league is played in  the summer and matters, wouldnt suit cushendall though who usually start training round June
That would be ok SCB but in our top division we have 3 Co.Down teams in it. Where would leave that teams like Rossa,Glenariffe & Gorts who are in Div 2 who have entered the senior championship? What about the top 4 in Div 1 enter a play-off to see who wins the league with the winners getting a cash bonus(through sponsorship) to win it(half could go into a players fund?).it means team would strive to get into the top 4.only a suggestion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 11, 2009, 09:25:50 AM
sounds alost like prize money two hands, honestly don't think a few bob at the end would be a big motivation for players.

regular matches against teams of a similar quality where the crowds can come out and support the team and the players have to fight for their place on the championship team.  

How, play the Ulster league in March/April with finals mid May. Antrim League from Mid May to end of July. August and September to run of Championships

Take 4 weekends out for Ulster Final, Leinster Quarter Final, Qualifier round 1, refixed matches.  IF Antrim do well make amendments.

Ulster League to continue without county player who would be tied up with NHL, matches played every sunday, football leagues played on a Friday night so that every Sunday hurling clubs get into the habit of supporting there teams.

A bit more effort from club to promote games also, the home team could perhaps be responsible for a match programme, it could even be used as a local school project to produce this and the county could award the school that produces the best programmes a reward.  Clubs would ave to send in team sheets but that should not be a problem.

Crowds at games will help the intensity,  I accept this is only cosemtic changes and that for real progress it would have to start with committed coaches working with kids in every club but i always think that you need both a good youth set up and a decentsenior set up for the youth to aspire to, part of the problem i think for some of that excellent minor team was they were lead to believe from an early age that they were the pinnacle in ANtrim andso senior was just a formaility not an aspiration
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 11, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
The elephant in the corner. Nothing stops skill development like it. Results in mediocrity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 11, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
Football influence = a bunch of muscle bound weight lifters who couldn't hurl stones at the brits, where have we seen that recently??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 11, 2009, 12:53:01 PM
I wish I was joking.  :-\

Name me a dual player from a club who has trained as much all the way through the juvenile age groups into senior in both codes who has stickwork worth talking about? They are few and far between. It's just the way works out.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: billy the kid on June 11, 2009, 12:59:38 PM
Thought this might interest some of you.



The Ulster Camogie Council are making a massive push ahead of their Ulster Finals.  Can you support them by publisizing their finals in all Clubs, Club and County Websites and all local Media (Radio and Newspapers)

Please Find attached the Final Poster and the Children's (U14) Free Ticket.



ULSTER CAMOGIE CHAMPIONSHIP FINALS 2009

PAIRC ESLER, NEWRY
SATURDAY 4th JULY
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Ulster Camogie: Press Release – By. Niamh Archibald (Ulster Camogie PRO)



Ulster Camogie hosted the 2009 Provincial Championship Finals launch on Friday evening at the finals venue at Pairc Esler Newry.  Mayor of Newry and Mourne District Colman Burns was present to help launch the Ulster Finals.

Mayor Burns said: "Ulster Council should be commended for their dedication to making the Ulster Final a festival of camogie which could be enjoyed by all the family.

"The hard-work that has gone in by all those involved should be commended, this will be the best final Ulster Camogie has witnessed. The teams, players and officials are lucky to be taking part in such a momentous occasion.

Catherine O'Hara Chairperson of Ulster Camogie said: "The GAA has to be congratulated for giving us the opportunity to create what we hope will be the finest Ulster Final. They have worked tirelessly to ensure that we have a pitch and date which we can build around. Danny Murphy and Tom Daly have to be thanked for giving us this unique opportunity, we hope with their continued support and help to make the Ulster Final an annual event which will be placed in every GAA calendar.

"It's now up to us, as an association, in a Province with a unique history to get behind our own sport and be visibly seen supporting the game we are so proud to be part of. It's about respecting  ourselves first.

On behalf of the Council Iwould like to wish all the finalists and officials  the best of luck. Pairc Esler on 4th July is where we should all be.

Two fabulous finals and the buzz that goes hand in hand with finals day is one not to be missed."

Also present at the Launch was Ulster Secretary Danny Murphy . The Provincial GAA Director spoke of the need to support Camogie. Danny Murphy stated that the time has come for Camogie to receive the respect and recognition it deserved saying: "for some time now the Camogie Association has been saying that it should get more respect. I'm a big believer that respect is not given but earned and you only have to look at what Ulster Camogie is trying to achieve with this Final to know that they are worthy of our respect."

The Ulster Finals will take place on the 4th July, with Tyrone facing Monaghan in the Junior Final, whilst neighbours Derry and Antrim will battle it out for the Senior title.

(For all the latest updates log onto www.ulstercamogie.ie )

CLICK BELOW TO VIEW - Ulster Camogie Final Promo

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2009, 11:44:24 AM
we have all moaned about the leagues, and have give various reasons to the decline of the antrim leagues. between the county teams wanting their players more and teams such as Cushendall not really trying in the leagues. (sure as long as they win three games that count)  the chopping and changing of the leagues at div 1 and 2. the fact that only one team goes up IMO is the worst decision ever!!!!

some of my thoughts have been expressed here already, league standings count for championship is one. let the Down teams go back to their own, now Johnnycool hear me out. this will only better the teams in the long run from their own counties. yes at the beginning there will be some lop sided games, but after a few years teams will raise the bar and be able to compete. we did it and were relegated by .........fook it not going back to that issue (Ba*tards) the Down teams will also be able to compete with Ballycran the Ports and B,galget. Bredagh have made great strides lately and other clubs in Down are doing great work. after time the clubs will even out and become competitive.

another one to think about would be for a champions league style competition (hate using soccer) but the winners of all the leagues then play in first an Ulster play off and then into an all Ireland play off. should they be Championship winners the the second placed team play instead. obviously Croke park is the goal at the end where clubs can play the 'Club League finals'

whats your views
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2009, 07:01:35 PM
Interesting opinions Milltown. A few comments I would make...

1. I think the AI and ulster league things would make things too congested.
2. Down teams moving out would give a lot of pain to the Ards team. I think, while we have improved the Down teams, they are also good for us too. They raise the bar and the standard isn't good enough across the board for us to have ten good teams.

A few thoughts...
- One up and one down is not good enough to maintain interest.
- Derry, I think, used to do a thing in football where something like the top 4 (or 2nd 3rd and 4th in lower leagues)went into playoffs for the league and the 4 above bottom went into playoffs. This meant that teams could feasibly with 2 games to go both be going for league titles(or promotion in lower leagues) and then get relegated. This would keep top and bottom interested. Basically this would be akin to soccer playoffs.
- So I suppose we could do 1st gets promoted from division 2 down. The next 3 are involved in playoffs for promotion. Bottom is relegated and the three above that are in playoffs for relegation. In the top division top 4 go to playoff for league.
- Relegation would be a draw out of a hat. First match loser plays the team remaining. Loser is down.
- Not new ideas but keeps every league place more interesting.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
I think Down hurling would wither and die without competitive matches in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on June 13, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
Going back to the original point about the top eight teams so what if three of them come from Div2, the last time Rossa won the championship they were effectivly in Div 2. I agree with Milltown there should be two up two down from each division to keep things competitive. Now if the gorts Glenarriffe and St Galls were all scrambling for two promotion places this year it would make div 2 very intresting. Bear in mind that promotion would gaurantee you an easier championship draw the next year. Although two up two down would make it hard to remain in Div 1 we would end up with four or five yoyo teams but no harm in that makes them fight harder to stay in Div1 which is the whole point to make the league competitive. Keep the down teams in the competition if the antrim teams lift their game some of them will get relegated like Ballycran two years ago and if the antrim teams cant lift their games then tough cookies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2009, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on June 13, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
Going back to the original point about the top eight teams so what if three of them come from Div2, the last time Rossa won the championship they were effectivly in Div 2. I agree with Milltown there should be two up two down from each division to keep things competitive. Now if the gorts Glenarriffe and St Galls were all scrambling for two promotion places this year it would make div 2 very intresting. Bear in mind that promotion would gaurantee you an easier championship draw the next year. Although two up two down would make it hard to remain in Div 1 we would end up with four or five yoyo teams but no harm in that makes them fight harder to stay in Div1 which is the whole point to make the league competitive. Keep the down teams in the competition if the antrim teams lift their game some of them will get relegated like Ballycran two years ago and if the antrim teams cant lift their games then tough cookies.

Agree, if we beat St Galls once we will be almost home and hosed. There is no margin for error but the league could be over halfway through the season as in reality the only teams capable of beating us are St Galls and Gort Na Mona (cant see Rossa beating us at home). Though as the Antrim admin always tell us " its what the clubs wanted"..........I suppose the Div 1 teams will never vote for this, turkeys voting for Xmas and all that...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2009, 11:47:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2009, 07:01:35 PM
Interesting opinions Milltown. A few comments I would make...

1. I think the AI and ulster league things would make things too congested.
2. Down teams moving out would give a lot of pain to the Ards team. I think, while we have improved the Down teams, they are also good for us too. They raise the bar and the standard isn't good enough across the board for us to have ten good teams.
A few thoughts...
- One up and one down is not good enough to maintain interest.
- Derry, I think, used to do a thing in football where something like the top 4 (or 2nd 3rd and 4th in lower leagues)went into playoffs for the league and the 4 above bottom went into playoffs. This meant that teams could feasibly with 2 games to go both be going for league titles(or promotion in lower leagues) and then get relegated. This would keep top and bottom interested. Basically this would be akin to soccer playoffs.
- So I suppose we could do 1st gets promoted from division 2 down. The next 3 are involved in playoffs for promotion. Bottom is relegated and the three above that are in playoffs for relegation. In the top division top 4 go to playoff for league.
- Relegation would be a draw out of a hat. First match loser plays the team remaining. Loser is down.
- Not new ideas but keeps every league place more interesting.



imtommygunn the Down teams are quality,  losing them would hurt the Antrim leagues and the Down leagues, but fook it. in the short time it will hurt the respective leagues, but in time we would get better and eventually have competitive leagues for Down and Antrim.

one up and one down is killing us. the county need to make it work and fook the clubs who vote this system (ballycastle). it was so bad years ago that even if you won the league (div 2) you had to beat the bottom team in div 1 to gain promotion!!!! how corrupt was that.

play offs dont work because again there is no real hard push from the big teams. they know by the time championship comes they are well ready to beat the lesser teams who might have taken points off them at the start of the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2009, 12:13:02 AM
Boys if Div1 was littered with quality teams then all these arguments about binning the ards teams might stand up. The idea that if you had a better chance of getting into div1, it would make you a better side over time is quite frankly laughable. The quality is only developed through a proper juvenile development system which for hurling takes I would say 2 to 3 times the effort required dedication for football (although dual clubs are supposed to be content with a 50/50 split).  Sorry for pissing on the fire
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 14, 2009, 12:26:13 AM
it wont happen over night Skull but will eventually. do you think your good club structures will sustain you in top flight? or could you lose your div one status?

i've great respect for the Down teams, but surely we should be looking after our own clubs. it will benifit the Down teams in the LONG RUN and us.

Played against ya's tonight Skull, hammered ya's but it was football, so aint don't really count ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2009, 12:49:05 AM
I didn't say good slub structures sustain clubs at the top level. I said good juvenile hurling development would. In dual clubs I don't think 50/50 is the right balance if you want to acheive on a hurling pitch especially against clubs who are hurling only. Works both ways I know 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 15, 2009, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
I think Down hurling would wither and die without competitive matches in Antrim.


I know Down hurling would wither and die without competitive matches in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2009, 10:50:52 AM
Serious wake up call for the hurlers yesterday in Donegal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 15, 2009, 10:33:00 AM

I know Down hurling would wither and die without competitive matches in Antrim.

Sure with their hamley tongue the ards boys might as well be North Antrim men.

I say keep them in. There is no point in lowing the bar for entrance into Div1. Get there on merit. At least they treat the leagues with respect unlike some Antrim teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2009, 11:28:01 AM
The down men are always amongst the most competitve in the league and always take their games seriously unlike some of our more respected clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 11:33:42 AM
Skull pull your w.lly out of Johnny ;)

I'm not after my own needs to be in div 1. it was a steep learning curve for us when we got into div 1. from taking hammering's at the start to actually competing then beating some of the top teams. Cushendall, Ballycran, Ballygalget, drawing with the Castle and Dunloy beating the Johnnies and Rossa. we didn't bring the level down we went on to match that level.

we tried every game skull and any of the hurlers that played with me give div 1 respect.

the same thing will happen with Down, the Crans the Ports and B,galget will still keep their levels high but the other teams will bring their standards closer. it wont happen over night but ten Antrim teams in div 1 and say 8 Down teams in their own county will develop hurling. it wont happen over night but sure nothing ever does.

its fair to say currently that we aren't happy as things stand, lets change it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2009, 12:30:06 PM
 :D .....it's just his tongue is so hamely

Milltown where you did indeed compete rightly in div1 when youse got in it was mostly you're excellent workrate rather than the standard of your stickwork (several exceptions excluded) that ground out some good performance for you in those early years. Would you agree?

Then two years ago from what I saw, both the workrate and the quality were missing. Youse didn't look to be taking hurling seriously (for obvious reasons ...fball....and of course there were exceptions there to)

When we are talking about standards ....lets talk about the quality of stickwork

Bottom line is teams that don't practice their stickwork enough regardless of how fit they might be through training with footballers, will never get to the skill level required to really threaten teams that do (bar the odd result)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 15, 2009, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 11:33:42 AM
Skull pull your w.lly out of Johnny ;)

I'm not after my own needs to be in div 1. it was a steep learning curve for us when we got into div 1. from taking hammering's at the start to actually competing then beating some of the top teams. Cushendall, Ballycran, Ballygalget, drawing with the Castle and Dunloy beating the Johnnies and Rossa. we didn't bring the level down we went on to match that level.

we tried every game skull and any of the hurlers that played with me give div 1 respect.

the same thing will happen with Down, the Crans the Ports and B,galget will still keep their levels high but the other teams will bring their standards closer. it wont happen over night but ten Antrim teams in div 1 and say 8 Down teams in their own county will develop hurling. it wont happen over night but sure nothing ever does.

its fair to say currently that we aren't happy as things stand, lets change it

didn't read that post the milltown before PM'ing you, but if the Down clubs were cut adrift and in so much as there is great strides being made by some clubs in Down they're still well short of the mark as our seconds strings are playing their seniors and in fairness that's as competitive as some currently are. There's a huge gulf between senior and reserve hurling. The more forward thinking clubs like Bredagh have already entered the Antrim leagues as they know only too well that they need a supply of good fixtures which they aren't currently getting in Down. Without the lifeblood of Div1 hurling in Antrim we'd be fucked. good and proper and that's why there's a serious onus on those league fixtures with all three senior clubs in Down.

Maybe a balance can be struck where there's a 10 team div1, playing each other once, after that phase the top 5 play each other again with the bottom 5 playing amongst each other as well or even bringing in the top few out of Div2 as well and this may reduce the hammerings that brought about the current legue format as well as give the developing teams a chance to bit themselves against the better teams. It'd certainly give all clubs something to play for right from the start.
Obviously I'd like to see the Down clubs in the mix.

My tongues fine and my arse is a no go zone for willy's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 15, 2009, 12:30:06 PM
:D .....it's just his tongue is so hamely

Milltown where you did indeed compete rightly in div1 when youse got in it was mostly you're excellent workrate rather than the standard of your stickwork (several exceptions excluded) that ground out some good performance for you in those early years. Would you agree?

Then two years ago from what I saw, both the workrate and the quality were missing. Youse didn't look to be taking hurling seriously (for obvious reasons ...fball....and of course there were exceptions there to)

When we are talking about standards ....lets talk about the quality of stickwork

Bottom line is teams that don't practice their stickwork enough regardless of how fit they might be through training with footballers, will never get to the skill level required to really threaten teams that do (bar the odd result)

I hope thats me your talking about :D

yes we had a higher work rate than most. but that was not intentional. boys were flat out with the footballers and we had one night stick work with a game at the weekend. not enough to compete. granted we need three nights a week leading up to championship. currently we have two and numbers are low at training because of the clash with the footballers.

the year Ballycastle had the motion of 10 teams one up one down motion we had gained 11 points FFS !!!!! we have never in our history had that many points in senior hurling. drew with yourselves (which i scored a blinding point)  beat Ballycran and beat other teams to get those points. had we have know at the start of that season............

that answers two years ago

but we'll carry on regardless. we've a push on for hurling at the minute from our under 8 up to minor and good men looking after them. plenty of passion and lads that have done the training courses.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 02:21:06 PM
just got word for league fixtures this Sat. we are at Rossa. seems that the county want us to play some games. good call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on June 15, 2009, 05:46:13 PM
Well the cries for Tosh should be forgotten about after last nights showing in the Feis cup, when moved to FF he did scramble a kicked goal but up to that he was in midfield looking for loose ball as usual. He was marking Sean Delargy who ran riot and scored 1-4 all from play yes a week to late you will be thinking, but Tosh didn't want to know him. I fairness it was a drab match with hardly a tackle in it Ruairi Og won 1-18 to 1-10 and play Loughgiel on Friday night in Dunloy in the semi. i hope its more exciting, although it has to be better than watching footie on deferred coverage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 06:00:21 PM
Quote from: JamesH on June 15, 2009, 05:46:13 PM
Well the cries for Tosh should be forgotten about after last nights showing in the Feis cup, when moved to FF he did scramble a kicked goal but up to that he was in midfield looking for loose ball as usual. He was marking Sean Delargy who ran riot and scored 1-4 all from play yes a week to late you will be thinking, but Tosh didn't want to know him. I fairness it was a drab match with hardly a tackle in it Ruairi Og won 1-18 to 1-10 and play Loughgiel on Friday night in Dunloy in the semi. i hope its more exciting, although it has to be better than watching footie on deferred coverage.

it's a pity he didn't shoot that against Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2009, 06:47:10 PM
James H - Im sure the Cushendall players are heartened to have such a vociferous cheerleader on this board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on June 16, 2009, 08:18:00 AM
Is senior reserve championship final tomorrow night??  Dunloy v Loughgiel? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2009, 08:33:18 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 16, 2009, 01:25:01 AM
James H, you've obviously got the bit between your teeth about Glenariffe!!

So what you were saying was that Tosh was played out of position - i.e. not playing to his strengths and having to mark a flier?  But when put in at FF, he got a goal? 

Is that not what we were all saying, that he gets goals??  ???

did no one rub up against him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on June 16, 2009, 09:35:45 AM
Reserve Final Cushendall Wednesday 7.30
Dunloy v Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2009, 11:39:30 AM
Quote from: milltown row on June 15, 2009, 02:21:06 PM
just got word for league fixtures this Sat. we are at Rossa. seems that the county want us to play some games. good call

We've a visit from the Johnnies on saturday evening so a must win game for us as i think there's about 3 ro 4 teams all on the same points at the bottom of the league. Bloody KK and Galway are on the goggle box, can see an injury develop ruling me out of the reserves game  :D

The Ports and the Crans are to do battle on the Monday evening and after a tempestuous affair in a recent thirds game where one lad was hospitalised could be hot and heavy as well, need a strong ref for both the reserve and senior games, those young lads don't know how to behave themselves

What's on on Sunday and why no North Antrim games?
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Post by: JamesH on June 16, 2009, 02:30:14 PM

The North Antrim teams are playing feis cup on Friday night in Dunloy @ 7.30pm Ruairi Og v Shamrocks and on sat @5pm Dunloy v Ballycastle in Loughgiel. Both semi Finals
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Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2009, 04:04:28 PM
why no sunday games though? Am i missing something?
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Post by: NAG1 on June 16, 2009, 04:37:49 PM
Antrim have a couple of Massive games coming up so the clubs have to hold their breathe until we find out their fate.  ;)
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Post by: maxpower on June 18, 2009, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: anailís on June 16, 2009, 09:35:45 AM
Reserve Final Cushendall Wednesday 7.30
Dunloy v Loughgiel

Dunloy won a competitive Reserve Final, 2-8 to 0-8 (could be wrong), Cookie harshly sent off midway through the second half having scored a great goal in the first half.  Both defences played well,
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Post by: anailís on June 19, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Cushendall 2-21
Loughgiel 5-14
Senior Feis Semi-Final

Cushendall finally taking something seriously apart from championship?
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Post by: Minder on June 19, 2009, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: anailís on June 19, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Cushendall 2-21
Loughgiel 5-14
Senior Feis Semi-Final

Cushendall finally taking something seriously apart from championship?

Nobody must have been "rubbing up" against the Loughguile forwards for them to get 5 goals.
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Post by: anailís on June 20, 2009, 12:25:28 AM
B McAuley scored 3 goals off 3 21' frees i think, so there must have been a wee bit of rubbin'.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 AM
Good win for LG last night.

I seen enough of cushendall in the first 15 minutes to know that they are a better team than LG by a considerable margin and come championship will blow them out of the water.
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Post by: milltown row on June 20, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
we were meant to play Rossa today but it didn't suit either team so was put back to it's original date. Rossa are away to the feile and we've a few boys away for pre planned trips.

while it was good of the county to try and get you games in high summer. fixtures are published and people arrange holidays around them. 

still gives me a chance to run out against St Enda's in div 4. hopefully we get a team. stayed of the drink and all ;)
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Post by: slow corner back on June 20, 2009, 02:08:57 PM
Quote from: anailís on June 20, 2009, 12:25:28 AM
B McAuley scored 3 goals off 3 21' frees i think, so there must have been a wee bit of rubbin'.

Do we take it Watson was not playing if Barney McAuley was taking the 21s?
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Post by: theskull1 on June 20, 2009, 02:24:06 PM
correct
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Post by: slow corner back on June 20, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
Has Watson appeared for the shams at all this year?
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Post by: anailís on June 20, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Not yet, he's injured. Pin in his thumb etc, getting rehab or something like that.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 20, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 20, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
we were meant to play Rossa today but it didn't suit either team so was put back to it's original date. Rossa are away to the feile and we've a few boys away for pre planned trips.

while it was good of the county to try and get you games in high summer. fixtures are published and people arrange holidays around them. 

still gives me a chance to run out against St Enda's in div 4. hopefully we get a team. stayed of the drink and all ;)

Just the one bottle of wine then?
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Post by: MrT on June 20, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Loughgiel missing a few first team starters though

How dunloy match go?
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Post by: milltown row on June 21, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
Hatchfield, what happened against St Pauls?  too many boys away? or have St Pauls finaly started to hurl
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Post by: anailís on June 21, 2009, 06:19:31 PM
Antrim get Laois.
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Post by: milltown row on June 21, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
aye nearly fell asleep reading it....

Gaels also beat Tir Na Og. we had a lot away and Rossa must have had a lot away also Feile and concerts. we asked to play the game on the friday night sunday night or the monday night.. so it went back to its original date.

our lads have had the fixtures from the start of the season they have all made plans so we'll play our games on those dates.

training issues happen at all clubs in Belfast. it's bad craic and demoralises everyone. our big game is on the 12 of July in Glenariffe!!! will decide our fate after that game
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Post by: maxpower on June 22, 2009, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 AM
Good win for LG last night.

I seen enough of cushendall in the first 15 minutes to know that they are a better team than LG by a considerable margin and come championship will blow them out of the water.


Agreed, thought Cushendall played really well, some of the younger lads seem to be coming on well for them

To be fair to loughgiel 5 goals is no mean feat against Cushendalls defence especially without Watson.  Barney got 2 21yard frees and 1 from play, must have scored 3-8
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Post by: slow corner back on June 22, 2009, 09:45:09 AM
Was Barney playing in midfield or up front max?
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Post by: maxpower on June 22, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
Full forward, then corner forward
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Post by: maxpower on June 22, 2009, 11:19:28 AM
Loughgiel missing watson, Cushendall missing Karl McKeegan,  apart from that they both had strong teams out.  Once again Aaron Graffin impressed at CHB, it was a surprisingly dead atomsphere given the decent crowd and the high scoring, though the last 15 minutes of the match and extra time where exciting enough.

Dunloy won by 5 points, started very poorly giving up a goal in the first minute and trailing by 6 points after the first quarter.  Gradually got into the game and got 2 goals late in the first half so when we turned around to play with a strong wind we had a 4 point lead.  Really should have kicked on in the second half but credit to Ballycastle they didn't let us.

Having saw Ballycastle 3 times this year i have to say they have improved somewhat on last year, some terrific fielders of a ball, Cosy and Hippy cause bother in the FF line and McAuley is a good centre back.  Good to see Pinky come on, i had heard he mightn't hurl again
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Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
Ballycastle definitely improving.
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Post by: milltown row on June 22, 2009, 05:22:26 PM
but will they be playing Div one next year or dropping down to div 2?
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Post by: slow corner back on June 22, 2009, 10:32:44 PM
Tight enough between them and the Johnnies for relegation MR Portaferry not breaking much delph either but may come good.
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Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2009, 11:13:06 AM
Any word on how the select teams are shaping up?
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Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2009, 11:46:13 AM
I would have thought if you were going to play cushendall the best time would be to get them early on before they are into their stride.

I also thought that these were a good idea at the time but stated that they had to be run well and looked after properly but that doesnt seem to have been the case in any of them.
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Post by: milltown row on June 23, 2009, 12:24:53 PM
7 lads turned up last night for Jim Nelson, not sure if the timing was right, with notification and what not but they played a 9 a side game with St Johns. cant see it getting off the ground.

two lads from the Johnnies filled in to make it 9 a side.

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Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2009, 01:01:12 PM
I think the idea is a good one in principal. Sure didn't I recommend it myself (great to see the CB taking positive contributions from the board  :) )

Problem is it was thrown into the mix with what seemed to have been next to no consultation to see how it could/would work in practice and work with the clubs to ensure that such an endevour was not to their detriment. Only when the buy in from the clubs/players was got then should it have it considered. The whole notion of people thinking that a delegates vote (who knows possibly under pressure from others) in the winter without consulting with his club would make this happen without any hassle is depressingly deluded. Hearts and minds of the people affected (the intermediatte/junior club players) once again forgotten about.

But I'm sure once again it'll be the clubs fault as it always is.

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Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2009, 01:30:23 PM
And it will be our fault on here for complaining that it didnt work!  ;)
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Post by: milltown row on June 23, 2009, 03:00:42 PM
i was for the idea in a way. problem is though, these players will be concentrating on their own club championships, should they get an injury or be sent off in a game v Cushendall then what benefit would it be to the clubs/players?

potential players could have been, Karl stewart, the two Herrons, two mcGourty's young McConville from lamhs, Christy Tumulty (Lamhs) Johnny Flynn, O'Grady Andy McLean, Sean Burke, Sean O Hara (all Galls men) young Philly Maguire (St Teresa's) and a few St Paul's in the Gamble's Sarsfields have young McKearnan also

decent team but very unworkable.
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Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2009, 03:47:48 PM
If the problems had of been discussed and looked at schedule wise etc then this would have been a truly competitive team and would have made for an interesting tie. However yet another half decent idea just squandered because of the lack of organisation and committment.
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Post by: JamesH on June 23, 2009, 10:03:58 PM
The NA select were out in Cushendun last night and had a turn out of 27 down a couple from last week. They are trying to get some matches, they seem keen although i don't know if they Will be fit for the town. Some good hurlers there no real big names.
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Post by: slow corner back on June 23, 2009, 11:53:45 PM
27 jameH are u sure that is a big step up from the 13 who were at the first session. This should have started in january february to pull a panel together. If they had played one challenge game a month from march on they might have a chance against Ballycastle. Playing one or two games between now and August is not enough to form a team.
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Post by: milltown row on June 24, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
any word on the team for Sunday lads? i hear there are some missing due to holidays.  can the Down team that has hit a bit of form lately  beat us at Casement or is the difference still too much.

would be strange to see Humpy Tosh and Jingo cheering on the line this Sunday should they get a result
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Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2009, 02:54:05 PM
Down have improved but dont think they will be enough yet to trouble Antrim, we are in the awful position of being too good for that level and just not good enough for the level above.
The laois draw really screws the club hurling for another couple of weeks in all fairness.  >:(
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Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
From what I hear so were a good few of the players  :o
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Post by: JamesH on June 24, 2009, 06:37:34 PM
scb
They have had about 5 sessions and have a match at weekend. their is no point gettin together in Jan/Feb as they weren't entered into Championship until April. ( but lession for next year)The closed hurling season has been good for players and clubs. I was talking to a Biddies hurler and he seems to be enjoying it Something different i suppose. I hope the Galls lads play against us as it might buck us up, plus give a better match
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Post by: Fairhead on June 24, 2009, 09:13:36 PM
They have to stick with the divisional teams in the senior championship for the long term. No point in doing it this year and next and jacking it in then if theres a few bad results. If they can work on the organisational side of it and get the intermediate and junior clubs to buy in to it over next 2/3 yearsi think it can have a positive effect long term on hurling in the county.

If Antrim get past Laois which they could, the following round of the qualifiers is down for the 18th July, the weekend of the 1st round games in the championship. Something will have to give and i think we know what that will be.

Anybody at the u16 game between L'geil and Dunloy on Mon nite? According to NA website 5 sent off after "one incident". It must have been a hell of an incident!
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Post by: the colonel on June 25, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Minor team for sunday


1.  Mark Donaghy  Ruairi Og
2. Ronan Mc Closkey Shamrocks
3. Matthew Donnelly  McQuillans
4. Christopher Mc Guinness Rossa
5. Conal Morgan St Johns
6. Conor Mc Clelland Gort Na Mona (cpt)
7. James McLister McQuillans
8. Conor Laverty St Brendans
9. Stephen Smyth St Brendans
10. Stephen Beattie Rossa
11. MIchael Devlin St Brendans
12. Donal Mc Kinley Shamrocks
13. Michael Lismore Latharna Og
14. Conor Mc Cann Creggan
15.Stephen Mc Afee McQuillans
16. James O Mullan Rasharkin
17. Ciaran Clarke McQuillans
18. Caoimhin Duffin Tir na og
19. Daniel Mc Peake Shamrocks
20. Ryan O Neill Sarsfields
21. O Quinn Cuchullains
22. Jude Savage St Johns
23. Stephen Shannon Rossa
24. Stephen Tierney St Johns
25. Hugh Connor St Galls
26. Gerard Carberry St Johns
27. Seamus Mc Naughton Ruairi Og
28. James mc Couaig Glenshesk
29. Seamus Dobbin Shamrocks
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Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2009, 01:44:03 PM
Is anyone planning any friendlies or challenge games with the lack of games in the past few weeks? One of the best spells of weather we have had in a while and all the clubs are sitting kicking their heels. Sure we will wait to it is pissing in october and finish our games off then.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Sad as I am that Dunloy don't have a few more representing, thats a great spread of clubs (I count 14 - to me a great sign) on the panel.
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Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2009, 03:48:22 PM
Had noticed the spread too Skull, any reason for the lack of Dunloy lads on it?
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Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2009, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Sad as I am that Dunloy don't have a few more representing, thats a great spread of clubs (I count 14 - to me a great sign) on the panel.

especially from the lines of Larne, Creggan and Randalstown. i can only but assume that St Brendans is an amalgamation.

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Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2009, 03:54:54 PM
We're weak at minor this year for various reasons

Could have had one more lad on it (was on the panel last years so don't know the reasons why he's not there this year (....possibly couldn't commit or was injured at the time the panel was being drawn up).
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Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 25, 2009, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 25, 2009, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
Sad as I am that Dunloy don't have a few more representing, thats a great spread of clubs (I count 14 - to me a great sign) on the panel.

especially from the lines of Larne, Creggan and Randalstown. i can only but assume that St Brendans is an amalgamation.



St Brendan's is Cushendun, Cloughmills and Glenravel
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Post by: the colonel on June 25, 2009, 04:49:45 PM
all three st brendans players are from cloughmills, promising for them

is the young dunloy boy, the one who got told at last minute he wasn't on team or squad for last yrs ulster final (or something like that?)

cushendall should have at least 3 more on, eoin laverty and paddy mcnaughton (both minor next yr) and laurence mckeegan but none committed. poor show really from our boys

whys young shannon not on, one of their best players last yr
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Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 25, 2009, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 25, 2009, 04:49:45 PM

whys young shannon not on, one of their best players last yr

Injured I think
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Post by: Minder on June 25, 2009, 06:16:34 PM
Is there not usually a good spread of clubs at minor level but a lot of players that are playing at "weaker" clubs dont progress because they are playing their club hurling at a relatively lower standard. I take it the Michael Lismore from Larne is Choppers son?
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Post by: the colonel on June 25, 2009, 06:30:39 PM
minder thats alot more than usual i would guess

yeah thats tommys son, trained with cushendall over the winter to give him a bit of hurling at a higher level
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 27, 2009, 08:04:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 25, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Minor team for sunday


1.  Mark Donaghy  Ruairi Og
2. Ronan Mc Closkey Shamrocks
3. Matthew Donnelly  McQuillans
4. Christopher Mc Guinness Rossa
5. Conal Morgan St Johns
6. Conor Mc Clelland Gort Na Mona (cpt)
7. James McLister McQuillans
8. Conor Laverty St Brendans
9. Stephen Smyth St Brendans
10. Stephen Beattie Rossa
11. MIchael Devlin St Brendans
12. Donal Mc Kinley Shamrocks
13. Michael Lismore Latharna Og
14. Conor Mc Cann Creggan
15.Stephen Mc Afee McQuillans
16. James O Mullan Rasharkin
17. Ciaran Clarke McQuillans
18. Caoimhin Duffin Tir na og
19. Daniel Mc Peake Shamrocks
20. Ryan O Neill Sarsfields
21. O Quinn Cuchullains
22. Jude Savage St Johns
23. Stephen Shannon Rossa
24. Stephen Tierney St Johns
25. Hugh Connor St Galls
26. Gerard Carberry St Johns
27. Seamus Mc Naughton Ruairi Og
28. James mc Couaig Glenshesk
29. Seamus Dobbin Shamrocks
Good spread of clubs and it is right that players are judged on their ability not on whether they play for the big 3 or not, but surely there must be someone of County standard in Dunloy and Glenariffe?!
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Post by: Minder on June 27, 2009, 09:06:59 AM
Glenariffe are quite weak at minor this year, very young team. Niall Murray (Big Muzz's son Tony) that played on the victorious CPC team would be as good or better than a lot of lads that are up I would have thought but I don't even know if he commited to it this year. He has played a few games for our seniors this year but is very young. On the subject of Paul Mc Clelland he was a very good player and would have got on most Div 1 teams.
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Post by: milltown row on June 27, 2009, 12:54:56 PM
1 ryan mc garry      mc quillans

2 kieran mc gourty st galls

3 neil  mc garry      shamrocks

4 aaron graffin       ruairi og

5 sean delargy       ruairi og

6 cormac donnelly mc quillans

7 neal mc auley      mc quillans

8 johnny campbell  shamrocks

9 karl mc keegan    ruairi og

10 brendan herron  lamh dhearg

11 neil mc manus    ruairi og

12 shane mc naughton ruairi og

13 eddie mc closkey shamrocks

14 paddy richmond  cuchullains

15 joey scullion        shamrocks



16 chris o connell    shamrocks

17 karl stewart         st galls

18 ciaran herron       kevin lynch's

19 michael herron    lamh dhearg

20 paddy mc gill     ruairi og

21 pj o connell        clooney gaels

22 cj mc gourty       st galls

23 dan mc killop      oisins

24 kieran kelly          mc quillans

25 colm duffin         tir na nog   

26 conor mc kinley   cuchullains

27 conor carson       ruairi og

28 paul shiels          cuchullains

whats your thoughts on this team lads for sunday?
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Post by: Minder on June 28, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
Are Antrim saving players for next week? Otherwise why is Karl Stewart not on?
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Post by: Bogball XV on June 28, 2009, 02:36:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 28, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
Are Antrim saving players for next week? Otherwise why is Karl Stewart not on?
must be, definitely one of their better players against the dubs, nay, one of their best.
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Post by: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
they did have a manager like bradley. Dinny Cahill was cut from the same cloth
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Post by: Minder on June 28, 2009, 06:01:44 PM
Sambo and Woody should take great credit in making the Ulster Final competitive again.
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Post by: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
was a strange game today. the first half was very forgetable and the second half created a bagfull of errors that made the game entertaining.

Shane McNaughton showed a lot of skill and speed today. had a great game IMO. as for the rest well Karl mck plucked some balls from the air and hurled rightly Joey was good in the first ten minutes and never seen him hit ball Kerian McGourty had a great game (I'll try and not be biased) caught a lot of ball and played very well. McGarry done well on 'Magic' and Grafton done enough on Braniff.

Down can go on and win the Christy Ring cup next week i think, I'll have a wee punt on them as that match was better than two training sessions

who's back tony?
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2009, 07:50:27 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
was a strange game today. the first half was very forgetable and the second half created a bagfull of errors that made the game entertaining.

Shane McNaughton showed a lot of skill and speed today. had a great game IMO. as for the rest well Karl mck plucked some balls from the air and hurled rightly Joey was good in the first ten minutes and never seen him hit ball Kerian McGourty had a great game (I'll try and not be biased) caught a lot of ball and played very well. McGarry done well on 'Magic' and Grafton done enough on Braniff.

Down can go on and win the Christy Ring cup next week i think, I'll have a wee punt on them as that match was better than two training sessions

who's back tony?
One of your old mates had a rant at you littered with profanity about how you were a useless **** etc. They've since deleted the post.
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Post by: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
i missed it >:(

under what name this time? i know i'm cute but these bunny boilers need to stop ;)
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
i missed it >:(

under what name this time? i know i'm cute but these bunny boilers need to stop ;)
Can't remember. Something like shrek - they only had 6 posts so it wouldn't be hard to track them down. Is there anywhere you can view all the board members? It was in response to your post about Dinny Cahill so it could be a relative of SASLinger.

On the match, yet again I don't think many Antrim players stood out. Karl McKeegan was steady enough but it really pisses me off the way he goes to ground anytime someone "rubs up against him". He's not playing football for Tyrone! Joey Scullion roasted their right corner back in the first ten minutes but did little in the remaining sixty mins from what I could see. Didn't think McManus was any great shakes either although he got a few handy scores. Shane McNaughton was the pick of the front six.
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Post by: Minder on June 28, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
"Seth" was the poster Milltown. The post was made from the control tower in Casement
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Post by: slow corner back on June 28, 2009, 08:16:42 PM
It was good to see SmcN convert his club form to county form, Scullion did enough to retain his place for the next day. Very exciting second half but would be concerned about the number of scores conceded, particularly the goals. Having said that Down were well up for it and on that form I reckon they will take Carlow. The question being if they do who will they replace Antrim or Laois???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 28, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
"Seth" was the poster Milltown. The post was made from the control tower in Casement
Seth was the very boy. Minder knows a lot about this ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 08:25:49 PM
aye Shane was the best forward on show without doubt. he still has serious speed and took his scores well today. can we beat Laois? well we should really. Laois will make a game of it for sure but we should come through in the end.

a few boys on their holidays next week so that will make it harder, Shane and stewarty away i believe. this was a closed date and people arranged holidays around it.

Down showed well didn't panick early on when Antrim were leading by 6/7 points and stuck over the chances they got so credit to them. i hope they win the Christy ring cup now.

so who'll take over from Sambo and Woody? think they have said they will be packing it in this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: milltown row on June 28, 2009, 08:25:49 PM
aye Shane was the best forward on show without doubt. he still has serious speed and took his scores well today. can we beat Laois? well we should really. Laois will make a game of it for sure but we should come through in the end.

a few boys on their holidays next week so that will make it harder, Shane and stewarty away i believe. this was a closed date and people arranged holidays around it.

Down showed well didn't panick early on when Antrim were leading by 6/7 points and stuck over the chances they got so credit to them. i hope they win the Christy ring cup now.

so who'll take over from Sambo and Woody? think they have said they will be packing it in this year
Ger Loughnane ;D or Jingo and Johnny Tosh ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on June 29, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 28, 2009, 11:40:24 PM
To be honest I thought our backs where seriously ropey. 4 goals against a poor Down team is pretty awful stuff. Forwards were good in patches, Scullion, Shane etc. Shane McN is a funny hurler, he looks the part in ulster, but, never makes any showing against good tight defenders across the border. McKeegan was the best player on show by a mile today. Think today proved we need a new manager.

thats a bit harsh dont you think? down put antrim under a lot of pressure and forced the errors. was a good gam though, thought we were going to steal it at the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 29, 2009, 05:10:55 PM
Team sport, he just doesn't get it. Not an ounce of humility or honesty in the fella, behaviour typical of a spoiled brat.
The squad should insist on an appology and if not forthcoming he should be asked to leave the panel.
It might get him a few column inches in the back pages which is what he seems to crave more than anything. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2009, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 29, 2009, 04:41:38 PM
What is to be made of the bould CJ leaving Casement before the supporters did.  While the celebrations were happening, he was getting changed and walking out the gates?  Raging cuz he didn't get a place?  Somewhere more important to be? 

Couldn't help but notice that the boys who have been there and trained all year without getting a run out i.e. McKillop, Duffin etc ere celebrating with their team-mates.  Compare and contrast!
Dont tell me any of you are surprised at his behaviour? Self absorbed would be an understatement............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:53:57 PM
played a match tonight and I'm fooked, played Hatchets crowd in the beer belly championship (I'm only joking Mods) at the pitch, and for the first time we have grass on the pitch!!!!

we've never really had a hurling pitch (no jokes please) it resembled Saipan but we got your Man McCaff from Gorts who also looks after Casement i think and he's worked wonders. with the weather we have had it has also helped i suppose but bar a couple of patches you can get your hurl under the ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 30, 2009, 08:55:10 AM
Have to say MR, your old pitch in the summer time was one of the nicest surfaces to hurl on in the county, but the new one has resembled a lunar land scape at times. Have to say Casement looked great on Sunday to, goes to show the skill in looking after our pitches properly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 30, 2009, 09:04:29 AM
What is to be made of the bould CJ leaving Casement before the supporters did.  While the celebrations were happening, he was getting changed and walking out the gates?  Raging cuz he didn't get a place?  Somewhere more important to be? 

Couldn't help but notice that the boys who have been there and trained all year without getting a run out i.e. McKillop, Duffin etc ere celebrating with their team-mates.  Compare and contrast!

Dont tell me any of you are surprised at his behaviour? Self absorbed would be an understatement............

Sure from what I hear he has somewhere else to be across the pond? MR any clarification on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
Sure he lasted about a week there last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on June 30, 2009, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on June 30, 2009, 05:44:03 AM
Quote from: milltown row on June 29, 2009, 10:53:57 PM
played a match tonight and I'm fooked, played Hatchets crowd in the beer belly championship (I'm only joking Mods) at the pitch, and for the first time we have grass on the pitch!!!!

we've never really had a hurling pitch (no jokes please) it resembled Saipan but we got your Man McCaff from Gorts who also looks after Casement i think and he's worked wonders. with the weather we have had it has also helped i suppose but bar a couple of patches you can get your hurl under the ball

Played myself MR!!  Escaped the grading system again this year - great to just get out an extra night chasing after a sliotar.  Was just saying to a team mate that thats as good i've seen your pitch and yes the grass was great!!!  Takes a Gort man to sort it, all he needs to do is sort our own out now.

You forgot to mention who won?  ;D

yes ya's won but had ya's on the run for a bit in the second half. if half our players that weren't graded turned up for these matches we'd win most games. a lot of current players involved with the juveniles so it takes away from Southy teams in the club.

Rossa would be favourites for that competition Hatchet and Lamhs aint bad either.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 30, 2009, 04:42:51 PM
Any comment on the other thing MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 30, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
In fairness to our CJ twas the year before that he came running home crying to mammy.

He lasted most of the season last year in the states...but then came back to play crap v Cavan Gaels in the Ulster Club for St Galls.

Sambo and Woody gave him a lifeline for the year (which in my opinion they were incorrect to do for morality reasons and playing reasons) and the players seem to have have no issue with him (will have to check sources...) and then he walks out of Casement.

What a wee tube.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on June 30, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Feis finals this weekend.....back to this time of year. Championship is around the corner. We play our friends Dunloy on Sunday evening. Should be a competitive game as both needs wont want to lose. We are ticking over nicely but then again we always are at this time!! Any word about make up of North Antrim team. I heard they beat ballycran over the weekend. Our own Joe Scullion is helping with the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on July 01, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
How are Ballela getting on in the South Antrim league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: Shamrock on June 30, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Feis finals this weekend.....back to this time of year. Championship is around the corner. We play our friends Dunloy on Sunday evening. Should be a competitive game as both needs wont want to lose. We are ticking over nicely but then again we always are at this time!! Any word about make up of North Antrim team. I heard they beat ballycran over the weekend. Our own Joe Scullion is helping with the team.

:o  :o  :o

Never mind the Feis Final

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 01, 2009, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on July 01, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
How are Ballela getting on in the South Antrim league?

Not great i think.  They got a draw against us, we were up by 15 believe it or not and they cam back and got a draw but asides from that, everyone i've spoken to tells me they've been getting hammered.  Couple of good hurlers though

I wouldn't quite say getting hammered every match. We'v played 9, won 4, drew 1 and lost 4. We'r normally missing 2-3 of our best hurlers on monday nights and 4 fella's who play have only really started playing hurling this year so its a useful enough exercise for us with a large contrast in playing ability within the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on July 01, 2009, 02:48:45 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 30, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
In fairness to our CJ twas the year before that he came running home crying to mammy.

He lasted most of the season last year in the states...but then came back to play crap v Cavan Gaels in the Ulster Club for St Galls.

Sambo and Woody gave him a lifeline for the year (which in my opinion they were incorrect to do for morality reasons and playing reasons) and the players seem to have have no issue with him (will have to check sources...) and then he walks out of Casement.

What a wee tube.


Have to agree with you Glensman he should never have been allowed onto the Hurling panel,he is a total disgrace when all saffs are so proud of our county after last weekend,hope thats him gone for good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 01, 2009, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 01, 2009, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on July 01, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
How are Ballela getting on in the South Antrim league?

Not great i think.  They got a draw against us, we were up by 15 believe it or not and they cam back and got a draw but asides from that, everyone i've spoken to tells me they've been getting hammered.  Couple of good hurlers though

I wouldn't quite say getting hammered every match. We'v played 9, won 4, drew 1 and lost 4. We'r normally missing 2-3 of our best hurlers on monday nights and 4 fella's who play have only really started playing hurling this year so its a useful enough exercise for us with a large contrast in playing ability within the team.

Well i don't doubt your effort - in fact your intention to travel every game is to be admired (apart from last monday when you's failed to field against us!!).  In my post i wrote something about people telling me you's are getting hammered.  I wrote "Not great i think.".  Unfortunately i don't follow the south antrim leagues with great vigour so sorry if i offended you.  I'm sure your missing players are great

Im not offended in the slightest, its just we'v ambitons to enter the All County league and the teams we put out on a monday wouldnt be a fair reflection of our standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on July 01, 2009, 03:20:52 PM
Quote from: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 01, 2009, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 01, 2009, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on July 01, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
How are Ballela getting on in the South Antrim league?

Not great i think.  They got a draw against us, we were up by 15 believe it or not and they cam back and got a draw but asides from that, everyone i've spoken to tells me they've been getting hammered.  Couple of good hurlers though

I wouldn't quite say getting hammered every match. We'v played 9, won 4, drew 1 and lost 4. We'r normally missing 2-3 of our best hurlers on monday nights and 4 fella's who play have only really started playing hurling this year so its a useful enough exercise for us with a large contrast in playing ability within the team.

Well i don't doubt your effort - in fact your intention to travel every game is to be admired (apart from last monday when you's failed to field against us!!).  In my post i wrote something about people telling me you's are getting hammered.  I wrote "Not great i think.".  Unfortunately i don't follow the south antrim leagues with great vigour so sorry if i offended you.  I'm sure your missing players are great

Im not offended in the slightest, its just we'v ambitons to enter the All County league and the teams we put out on a monday wouldnt be a fair reflection of our standard.

wow the all county league?? use must be doin pretty well in the down league. were are use? top or there abouts??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 01, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: Shamrock on June 30, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Feis finals this weekend.....back to this time of year. Championship is around the corner. We play our friends Dunloy on Sunday evening. Should be a competitive game as both needs wont want to lose. We are ticking over nicely but then again we always are at this time!! Any word about make up of North Antrim team. I heard they beat ballycran over the weekend. Our own Joe Scullion is helping with the team.

:o  :o  :o

Never mind the Feis Final

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:D :D :D :D

Have been in hiding these past 9 months after the beating we took in last years final :'(. But time is a good healer and hope is eternal :)

What do you make Skull of final being in glenarm? think it will def affect the crowd. There was a great crowd for last years final in your place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on July 01, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
Quotewow the all county league?? use must be doin pretty well in the down league. were are use? top or there abouts??

Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition, your club could do with a bit instead of playing 6-7 games a year like you did last year! ;) .... Anyway this isn't the thread for that discussion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2009, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on July 01, 2009, 04:01:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: Shamrock on June 30, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Feis finals this weekend.....back to this time of year. Championship is around the corner. We play our friends Dunloy on Sunday evening. Should be a competitive game as both needs wont want to lose. We are ticking over nicely but then again we always are at this time!! Any word about make up of North Antrim team. I heard they beat ballycran over the weekend. Our own Joe Scullion is helping with the team.

:o  :o  :o

Never mind the Feis Final

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:D :D :D :D

Have been in hiding these past 9 months after the beating we took in last years final :'(. But time is a good healer and hope is eternal :)

What do you make Skull of final being in glenarm? think it will def affect the crowd. There was a great crowd for last years final in your place.
They can't decide the location of the Feis on who they think will be in the final of the Feis Cup. If youse were that interested you would travel to Glenarm - it's not Cork!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 02, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
With the weather to involve torrential downpours for the rest of the week and Sunday included will Glenarm have the parking facilities to cope with the feis.

How's thing going with the Shamrocks this year, will youse be missing many this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 02, 2009, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 02, 2009, 02:35:08 PM
I'm glad its up in Glenarm cuz... you guessed it, its beside my caravan!!!!
Have you a caravan on the top of the mountain in Feystown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2009, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 02, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
Beside it amigo!!  Right in the Costa del Carnlough
Don't go into the sea!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 02, 2009, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2009, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on July 02, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
Beside it amigo!!  Right in the Costa del Carnlough
Don't go into the sea!

it's a blue flag beach sure

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2009, 07:28:12 PM
Yer ballix. Brown flag maybe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 03, 2009, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: maxpower on July 02, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
With the weather to involve torrential downpours for the rest of the week and Sunday included will Glenarm have the parking facilities to cope with the feis.

How's thing going with the Shamrocks this year, will youse be missing many this weekend

things going ok. Hooker has totally changed the team in terms of positional changes. Ding, Skinner and Barney all playing up front!! and to be fair it has worked with both ding and barney playing exceptionally well up there. But leaves us weaker back in defence. Hard to know what will happen come championship time. We will have most players available as far as i know. Winker wont play this year for us. Hasnt been around and is playing the soccer ticket!! We have a bunch of lads at min who are 100% committed so maybe better to go with them.......

What about yourselves??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 03, 2009, 11:05:30 AM
Thats out of order lad.........this isnt the place to discuss personal issues of someone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 03, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
The jury is still out if you ask me on Ding/Barney/Skinner up front (I hope I don't eat those words come sunday). The dall switched off after 15 mins and Ding and Barney did a bit of damage in the Feis SF.....we'll see. I'd put a fairly heavy wager that Winker will be sprung in late July/August though. Borrowing the dalls tactics of course  ;)


On a different note. How do the shams feel about Beaver coming out of self imposed exile from the game to be a selector on the side this year. Has he shown any interest in the club over the past 20 odd years since he retired? I haven't seen him but he has changed a fair bit to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 07:38:24 PM
Who's the county official responsible for the absolute shambles of telling the hurling squad that they had a free weekend this week, resulting in a couple of key players unable to change holidays (CB wont fund it) and the manager having to get an early flight home from his?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2009, 09:07:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 07:38:24 PM
Who's the county official responsible for the absolute shambles of telling the hurling squad that they had a free weekend this week, resulting in a couple of key players unable to change holidays (CB wont fund it) and the manager having to get an early flight home from his?
Here is your answer O'Neill from the County website -


"This is complete and utter nonsense and has no foundation in fact whatsoever. This is a lie that is being peddled around in some way to explain why some players are on holidays. Irrespective of what you hear elsewhere, this is the truth!"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
Lies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2009, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
Lies
Who will be missing tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 03, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
Shane and Karl Stewart. I think thats it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
Lies

What about Sambo flying home this morning then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2009, 12:01:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 03, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
Lies

What about Sambo flying home this morning then?
Was he on a Jumbo?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 04, 2009, 11:56:39 AM
yeah sambo was to get a flight yesterday, apparently croke park told the county that it was a free weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 04, 2009, 03:32:43 PM
yes maybe it was a free weekend but lets look at this. the Leinster Championship was fixed in stone for tomorrow. did we as a county not think we'd be competing in that final? we already beat Wexford in the league, and on a number of times beaten Dublin, so there was a good chance of us reaching the final.

now did Sambo book his flights after the Dublin game? after asking what dates were available from the county? I'd say he did. same as the other lads that are away on their holidays.

bit of a shambles really. poor communication from everybody.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 04, 2009, 08:34:33 PM
Not looking good. Christy ring next year I doubt.

Crap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 04, 2009, 09:15:21 PM
Very disappointing result tonite but not surprised after last weeks 2nd half performance against Down. Cant see how they will get a result against Offaly so Christy Ring again next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2009, 09:44:07 PM
A new low
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
Another famous one is "we don't have to look round the car park anymore to see if we have enough for training"

What they have been doing at training would be open to debate though judging by the performances this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 05, 2009, 12:35:37 AM
Over the top Groundie.

For what its worth
Dinny made the leagues worse than they were. Now they have improved (well the last two years...this year has been poor enough) because CP's play club matches where they didn't under Dinny.
Jingo was in for one year and several people I spoke to thought the training was very poor. He got shafted though after the team did OK that year

Sambo was right generally speaking about NA compated to SA & SWA. What is so contentious about that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Real Laoislad on July 05, 2009, 09:53:44 AM
Very surprised with that result last night,I didn't think Laois hurlers had it in them..
I thought a year or two in the Christy Ring would have done us some good actually...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 05, 2009, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 05, 2009, 01:23:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 05, 2009, 12:35:37 AM
Over the top Groundie.

For what its worth
Dinny made the leagues worse than they were. Now they have improved (well the last two years...this year has been poor enough) because CP's play club matches where they didn't under Dinny.
Jingo was in for one year and several people I spoke to thought the training was very poor. He got shafted though after the team did OK that year

Sambo was right generally speaking about NA compated to SA & SWA. What is so contentious about that?

You can say what you like about Dinny Cahill but he improved the speed and style of our hurling ten fold. He was a breath of fresh air to the county, and our performances in Croke Park in 2002 & 2003 where proof of the progress he made with us . I agree that he might have hindered the leagues, yes, but Cahill's positives by far out weigh his negatives.

On your point about Jingo. Who are these experts that can say training is poor etc, and how qualified are they to say it? However poor Jingos training apparently was, his results in league and Championship back him up. We beat Galway in the league, a team Sambo's charges haven't even got with 20 points of, and we ran Kilkenny & Tipp to within a puck of a ball. And we beat the 2nd tear teams comfortably when it mattered.

What are the positives from Sambos rein?

I have said it what I like so to speak and you've agreed with me. One thing you need to think about though is the argument that any drop in standards that has came about is to a large degree down to the lack of respect given to the leagues especially during Dinny's reign. So when all the good things were happening at County Level, the foundations were being chipped away.

Tell me what qualifications people need to look or take part in training sessions and have opinions about them?

I have already said that he did rightly and was shafted, BUT for you to bring up the Galway game when they had just arrived back from a 10 day session in China was it, and then ignore the fact that Antrim beat the Cats (whi I believe weren't that long home from a trip) and the fact they won the Walsh Cup under S&W just exposes your blinkered bias. Have a look at yourself b4 you start spout crap like that.

I don't think that S&W tenure was great for the record but it is not the be all and end all. The County Panel will not be able to develop until the club game strengthens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 06, 2009, 08:24:40 AM
Skull I think we all agree with your point about the club game needing to improve to produce a better standard of player, but it can't be continually used as a convenient excuse or cop out after an abject performance. Does anyone for a minute think the club structures in Laois hurling are that strong? Maybe our players are not as good as we (or they) thought but I think we should be beating Laois with a bit to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 06, 2009, 09:32:43 AM
Seriously disappointed in the result at the weekend.

Some serious questions now have to be asked, firstly it is absolute nonsense to suggest that this date was not going to the date for any qualifier game.

Is it acceptable for the manager to take off in the most important two weeks of the season, also for two players to be away on holidays and missing a vital game. There is some serious double standards being applied here, it seems to be an attitude of tear away and do what you want inside the camp. However we are being told that everything is rosey and that we have 25 committed fella's doing the damdest for Antrim hurling. Im sorry but that no longer cuts the mustard.

Im not attacking anyone personally because there has been a serious amount of hours put in regardless of the outcome but we are in bad shape if we cant put laois away.

On another note any one any comment on a prominent referee being 'punched' in North Antrim last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 06, 2009, 09:53:30 AM
Who was attacked Nag? PM if you don't want to post it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 06, 2009, 10:03:07 AM
One of our up and coming referee's doing the line at the Feis Final from what I hear, but Im sure others can clarify.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 06, 2009, 10:25:07 AM
Heard rumours but never saw anything.

Scandalous if it did happen, just to be clear, thankfully it wasn't a Dunloy supporter

As for the game itself, it was a timid enough game until the end when Dunloy down by 6 points with 4 minutes to go managed to find the net twice.  Skinner was sent off, struck with the hurl to the throat in the middle of a schmozzle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 06, 2009, 11:57:18 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 05, 2009, 11:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 05, 2009, 11:18:21 AM
I have said it what I like so to speak and you've agreed with me. One thing you need to think about though is the argument that any drop in standards that has came about is to a large degree down to the lack of respect given to the leagues especially during Dinny's reign. So when all the good things were happening at County Level, the foundations were being chipped away.

Tell me what qualifications people need to look or take part in training sessions and have opinions about them?

I have already said that he did rightly and was shafted, BUT for you to bring up the Galway game when they had just arrived back from a 10 day session in China was it, and then ignore the fact that Antrim beat the Cats (whi I believe weren't that long home from a trip) and the fact they won the Walsh Cup under S&W just exposes your blinkered bias. Have a look at yourself b4 you start spout crap like that.

I don't think that S&W tenure was great for the record but it is not the be all and end all. The County Panel will not be able to develop until the club game strengthens.

Dinny's rein was only 3 seasons. The standard of club hurling before that was at an all time low. We couldn't even produce county hurlers good enough to win an Ulster Title. You seem to pin the blame on him, when clearly the standard of club hurling was already poor before his arrival.
Dinny brought so much to this county and he never really got any credit for it, his championship performances in 02 & 03 will live long in the memory.

Since Dinny has now been away for four years now, where are we? Back to square one! The blame has to be laid on the current management.

In reply to your statements about Jingos training methods, I was simply saying that when most so called people in the know, who like to bitch about managers training methods/sessions haven't a clue what they are talking about themselves.
If you were to hand them a whistle and cones and tell them to take a warm up or drills they wouldn't know where to start. 

I think you need to look at yourself before you can claim that other managers sessions are poor, as however poor Jingos sessions were, his results certainly back him up comprehensively.

The Walsh Cup was nice to win, but in all honestly good teams and managers are judged on how they perform when it counts i.e league & championship. Preseason competitions are utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Maybe not to you thought, could you tell me the past 5 winners of the Waterford Crystal & Walsh Cups off the top of your head?

Thought not.

Groundie unlike yourself I don't live in a black and white world. I have stated many times in the past that the leagues have been poorly treated going back to before 89 as there was more emphasis placed on County preparations. So yes the standards were on the slide as far back as then. But they took a noticable dive when Dinny came on the scene and took all "HIS" players away from the leagues. I thought it was 4 years but if it was 3 years it was still too long and the leagues took another nudge down in standards during his reign regardless of any elation you may have felt in 02 & 03 (lets conveniently forget the next year shall we). You have to ask yourself...what has he left behind him since he left? I see a weaker standard of hurling theat needs a better club structure to begin to thrive again.
And on the training sessions argument. You are of course right that 95% of people would struggle to take a good session themselves, but it's a nonsense to use that fact to suggest that they then shouldn't have a valid opinion on whether training sessions are good or not? BTW some of the people I've spoken to do know how to take a session so ......

And groundie, if you believe (and I don't disagree) that "good teams and managers are judged on how they perform when it counts ", then don't bring Galway into your argument and I won't to counter with a walsh cup result. Both were the same time of year and both sides were just back from holiday.

Agree with you NAG about the timing of holidays......name any other County teams that this has happened to? It is pretty farcical

Didn't hear about Herbie last night. A disgrace if it did. A sounder man you could not meet.

Poor game. Crosswind didn't help. Cannot abide that skinner boy. Loughgiel better on the breaking ball most of the time. Both defenses beat their opponents over the hour (James McKeague my MOTM). Good finish from Dunloy but the previous 50 was not good in the forward department. I'm sure Cushendall went home happy after watching it as no team offered what looked to be a good enough threat to their crown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on July 06, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
An Antrim fella told me that 'The Pound' in Loughgiel is the best spot for a night out in North Antrim, is this so?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 06, 2009, 12:39:04 PM
Yes most assuredly so!  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 06, 2009, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on July 06, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
An Antrim fella told me that 'The Pound' in Loughgiel is the best spot for a night out in North Antrim, is this so?
Was the fellas surname McGarry?

It's a great spot if you love talking about cows and Joe Cooney.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 06, 2009, 12:51:04 PM
Antrim hurlers must beat Offaly in the final play-off game of the season if they are to avoid playing Christy Ring Cup hurling next season after falling to defeat to Laois in Saturday evening's qualifier in O'Moore Park, Portlaoise.
After falling behind early in the game Antrim hit back to level with four Karl McKeegan points which tied the scores on 0-6 to 0-6 by half-time, but Antrim did have the use of the fresh breeze in that first half.
Laois looked the better team after the break but when Hyland missed a penalty soon after after the break Antrim hit back and Neil McManus scored an Antrim penalty at the other end to put his team 1-7 to 0-8 ahead.
However the remainder of the half  saw the home team regain the upper hand and they outscored Antrim by 11 points to two during a period of dominance.
Michael Herron and Paddy Richmond hit late points for Antrim but it was a case of too little, too late and Laois booked their place in the next round while Antrim face the tough task of beating Offaly in a relegation play-off to prevent a return to the Christy Ring Cup.

Scorers -- Laois: W Hyland 0-7 (3f), J Brophy, B Campion (3f) 0-3 each, C Del-aney, J Walsh 0-2 each, T Fitzgerald 0-1. Antrim: K McKeegan 0-6 (4f 1'65), N McManus 1-0 (pen), P Richmond, M Herron 0-2 each, CJ McGourty, S Del-argy 0-1 each.

Laois: T Doran; J A Delaney, D Maher, B Stapleton; M Whelan, B Campion, M McEvoy; C Delaney, J Walsh; E Jackman, O Holohan, W Hyland; E Costelloe, T Fitzgerald, J Brophy Subs: J Rowney for Costelloe (45); B Dunne for Jackman (55); J Purcell for Fitzgerald (70)
Antrim: R McGarry; K McGourty, N McG-arry, A Graffin; C Herron, J Campbell, N McAuley; S Delargy, K McKeegan; N McManus, C Donnelly, E McCloskey; PJ O'Connell, P Richmond, J Scullion. Subs: M Herron for O'Connell (22); CJ McGourty for Donnelly (ht); B Herron for McAuley (40); D McKillop for McCloskey (42); K Kelly for C Herron (56)
Referee: P O'Connor (Limerick)

a bad return from our forwards. Micko scored two as a sub and Cj!!!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 06, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
4 of the starting forwards didn't score. Jesus we lack a consistent threat in that department.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 06, 2009, 01:05:49 PM
Hard to be consistent two weeks in a row when one of those weeks your in Spain in the sun Skull  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
Lads,

Has anyone seen the latest coming out of croke park, it now seems that the losers of the Antrim Offaly match will have to play the losers of the Galway Clare game, so there is another weekend wasted without a club game, thats since the start of june not a decent ball struck in a club game.
Correct me if Im wrong but arent we a summer sport and two of the summer month June/July the whole county is sitting idle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on July 07, 2009, 10:51:13 AM
What about the losers of the Limerick/Wexford game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 11:00:20 AM
Yes thats what makes it up

galway v clare - losers

Limerick v wexford - losers

All into a draw with antrim and offaly meaning there will be two more games to decided who drops out of the liam mccarthy and seeing as we couldnt beat laois I would seriously reckon we will be involved in both games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 07, 2009, 11:36:02 AM
lads the fixtures croke park set out cant be blamed on the county, but your right, more games should be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
Im not blaming the county for this one colonel, what I am saying is there is something wrong at the root of this that the best of the summer is spent sitting idly by watching instead of what we are in this association for 'playing' and taking part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 07, 2009, 11:53:59 AM
yeah NAG, croke park have bundled this one up again, seems they cant seem to get fixtures right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2009, 12:10:10 PM
If only the administrators had more time to look at these things properly. I think they should be full time employed  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 04:05:20 PM
So now according to the Doctor we cant be relegated?

Plus is it my understanding that the losers in the relegation play off have to play the winners of the christy ring in a one off promotion relegation game. At this rate we will be into the middle of August without a ball being struck in anger on the club scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/cga/lowres/cgan37l.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 07, 2009, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 04:05:20 PM
So now according to the Doctor we cant be relegated?

Plus is it my understanding that the losers in the relegation play off have to play the winners of the christy ring in a one off promotion relegation game. At this rate we will be into the middle of August without a ball being struck in anger on the club scene.
Not how I read it Nag, I thought winner of CR was straight into McCarthy Cup. I'm sure there is time for them to change things again though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
I wasnt sure myself what it was, was more of a question than a statement

Any word on how the NA select went in their challenge game against Cushendall last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 09, 2009, 10:48:21 AM
someone posted on the county website as the colonel- it certainly wasn't me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 09, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 07, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
I wasnt sure myself what it was, was more of a question than a statement

Any word on how the NA select went in their challenge game against Cushendall last night?

I was playing in the game myself.  3 periods of 25 minutes and the game ended a tie 1.11 each.  Had to be stopped 10 mins early because of a bad back injury to Eoin McAllister but he was up and moving about again after half an hour.  Was a good hard game of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
who would be the main stays of the NA select team then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 09, 2009, 11:27:21 AM
75 mins of hurling and 1-11 each doesn't sound like a good game all the same gelvis. Must have been plenty of timber flying to keep it interesting

Really looking forward to seeing the NA,SW & SA selects. Hope they bring a new spark to the championship. CCC will need their thinking hats on to stop fixture conjestion. I doubt if they will achieve it with this who palava regarding Liam McC relegation playoffs sqeezing an already tight schedule never mind the footballers being on a good run
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 09, 2009, 11:31:22 AM
Darrren Hamill had a great game and so did the McDermott's Benny and Blaine, John and Liam Dillon were good too.
Cushendall didn't start Graffin or Karl McKeegan, they came on in the second period.

There was a decent crowd at the match and anyone I've spoken to since all agreed that it was a hard and tight macth.  The ball seemed to be flying around midfield and both sets of half forwards alot of the game.  Plenty of hooking, blocking and tackling so I couldn't really say that there were many clear cut scoring opportunities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 11:33:10 AM
 Good to see that they are actively seeking games and that some work is going in.

Hopefully they will add a bit of spark to the championship as skull says but we might be playing championship in November at this rate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 09, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
Aye I know...what is the craic with the Antrim match anyway?  Can we or can we not get relegated.  I read something on the county board guestbook -

"What do the new fixtures mean for Antrim hurling? The losers of the Antrim/Offaly play Clare/Galway and the loser of the second game gets relegated?
No, Antrim, Offaly and the losers of Clare v Galway and Limerick v Wexford all go into a hat and play off. The 2 losers of those games then play-off to decide who is "relegated". Endless and certainly not doing anything to help club activity."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
Aye but were we gauranteed LMcC competition for 3 years or not that will drag it out even more.

Anyway time it was wrapped up its time for the serious hurling to start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on July 09, 2009, 02:09:32 PM
The first round of championship matches are fixed for the weekend of August 7th, 8th and 9th with JHC on Friday night, IHC on Saturday and SHC on the Sunday. If the members of the NA panel are playing Junior and Intermediate with their clubs will they be expected to play with NA on the Sunday. 2 championship matches in 2 days is asking a wee bit much. Can anyone shine any light on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 09, 2009, 03:01:51 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on July 09, 2009, 02:09:32 PM
The first round of championship matches are fixed for the weekend of August 7th, 8th and 9th with JHC on Friday night, IHC on Saturday and SHC on the Sunday. If the members of the NA panel are playing Junior and Intermediate with their clubs will they be expected to play with NA on the Sunday. 2 championship matches in 2 days is asking a wee bit much. Can anyone shine any light on this.

Do NA not play Ballycastle next weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 03:14:26 PM
That was my understanding of it but now this match in the AI losers section will probably be then so thats that out the window then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 09, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
Well lads, my apologise for not posting earlier in week. Disappointed at losing Feis final. Like someone said earlier, Cushendall wont be too worried from what they saw from either side. Although imo the best team on night lost.

Cant let this pass without commenting on the incident that happened after the match. It was a disgrace and one which will be dealt with. No room for that in our great sport.

Must congratulate Glenarm on a great Feis. I was one who doubted the choice of venue, but i was there both on sat and sun and both days were exceelent in terms of stewarding, provision and craic. Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2009, 03:52:27 PM
Shamrock dealt with how? if we can ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 09, 2009, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: gelvis on July 09, 2009, 11:31:22 AM
Darrren Hamill had a great game and so did the McDermott's Benny and Blaine, John and Liam Dillon were good too.
Cushendall didn't start Graffin or Karl McKeegan, they came on in the second period.

There was a decent crowd at the match and anyone I've spoken to since all agreed that it was a hard and tight macth.  The ball seemed to be flying around midfield and both sets of half forwards alot of the game.  Plenty of hooking, blocking and tackling so I couldn't really say that there were many clear cut scoring opportunities.

Gelvis - any chance you could give us a break down of the line up (should be in a song that!) of the NA team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 09, 2009, 04:44:03 PM
from my understanding the club will be dealing with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 09, 2009, 05:26:11 PM
Talking to a few lads in the SW i dont think theres going to be much happening with the SW Select team.  As feared with each club involved being a dual club, there doesnt seem to be much of a buy in from clubs / players.  Heard there was one trial so far and have heard nothing more about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
Shamrock, just interested are the club going to deal with it in an attempt to avoid a punishment from the county board?

In all honesty I would still expect the county to take some action as this has to be rooted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 10, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
Shamrock, just interested are the club going to deal with it in an attempt to avoid a punishment from the county board?

In all honesty I would still expect the county to take some action as this has to be rooted out.

Cant shed alot of light on this NAG. I honestly dont think club are trying to avoid punishment. They believe it or not feel that they must punish the man regardless of county and will take what ever punishment county throw at us. But rumours that they will suspend us etc is total crap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 10, 2009, 02:22:58 PM
the county could hand out different punishments to the club, but what can the club do to the individual if he doesn't play or take teams? how could any club enforce any thing on a supporter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on July 10, 2009, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
But rumours that they will suspend us etc is total crap

Why? It's happened before in other counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 10, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on July 10, 2009, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
But rumours that they will suspend us etc is total crap

Why? It's happened before in other counties.

with all the fuss about Ballinderry i think North Antrim will have to be seen to take action, I think as its an North Antrim competition Loughgiel could find themselves suspended from next years Adult Feis Competitions, which would seriously devalue the feis,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
time will tell. You probably know more about it than i do. Either way is was an incident that shouldnt have happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 10, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
i know very little about it, just an opinion

think its a real shame when one individual lets down a whole club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2009, 02:45:36 PM
I heard he attacked herbie from behind like a sleekit dog. He's some man alright. Must run in the family. WTF comes into people to do stuff like that and as you say Max have let down their whole club.

Like it wasn't even an Ulster Final   :-[  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
I wasnt getting at the loughgiel club per say but my point was that any club will have to be punished so that this kind of thing is eliminating completely. Clubs sometimes have to hold their hands up and say fair cop.

Only when a club/ parish is seen to be punished for the actions of one fool will the message start to get across that this was completely unacceptable for anyone.

The clamp down has to start somewhere or we will have no officals left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 03:19:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 10, 2009, 02:45:36 PM
I heard he attacked herbie from behind like a sleekit dog. He's some man alright. Must run in the family. WTF comes into people to do stuff like that and as you say Max have let down their whole club.

Like it wasn't even an Ulster Final   :-[  :-\

Skull - f**k off. Must run in the family. Dont come on here an question anyones family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
Why what happened earlier in the match Shamrock?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2009, 03:34:45 PM
Right back at you Shamrock
I've seen enough of the brother to make that comment and you know very well what I mean so stop going out of your way to be offended. The similarities are striking (literally)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
the brother is a tough boy. I aint offended skull. He gives as good as he gets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2009, 04:38:02 PM
I've seen sleekit and treacherous on a dropping ball from behind which requires no bravery of any sort. Tough no way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrock on July 10, 2009, 05:07:17 PM
I could name a few from your part of world who would come under same umberella then. I wont get involved in a petty argument with you. We can agree to disagree. I would have him with me in any battle i go to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on July 10, 2009, 07:09:33 PM
The battle would need to be every three months, as he's usually suspended. This is the 2nd time this year he has been sent off. The worst about it is Loughgiel have made him Capt. What sort of message does that send out by the management, he's hardly a shining example say like Martin Scullion or Barney , DD, Mc Garry any of these lads would be wiser. Perhaps shamrock they have already been captain , but a bit of common sense needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on July 12, 2009, 11:06:19 AM
Just interested, who was he sent off against this season already (twice in total?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 13, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Were any Div 1 games played this weekend? Any results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2009, 10:39:43 PM
Offaly match in Parnell Park on Saturday week

and on it goes..............

And on and on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on July 13, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
Any word on Glenariff v St. Galls tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 13, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
Any word on Glenariff v St. Galls tonight?

Was called off, Glenariffe played the North Antrim divisional team tonight on a friendly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 14, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 13, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
Any word on Glenariff v St. Galls tonight?

Was called off, Glenariffe played the North Antrim divisional team tonight on a friendly.

Minder,

any word on how that game went?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sammymaguire on July 14, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2009/0714/hurling.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 14, 2009, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 14, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on July 13, 2009, 11:28:47 PM
Any word on Glenariff v St. Galls tonight?

Was called off, Glenariffe played the North Antrim divisional team tonight on a friendly.

Minder,

any word on how that game went?
Cloot I think it was about 4-20 to 3-17 to our boys, was talking to one of our players today and he said North Antrim were stronger than he thought they would be and they will give the town a decent game.
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2009, 09:33:42 PM
dunloy beat us by 9 points tonight, 3-15 to 1-12 or the likes, both understrength but worryingly dunloy a lot more than ourselves with only magic making inroads but that age old connundrum of playing him too far from the goals or he gets starved of possession. No easy answers as we've no no11 to speak off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 20, 2009, 11:54:28 AM
with the qualifiers now on, when will the championship matches now be played. 

Sounds like NA are shaping up rightly and good to hear, it would only take one team to make a fist of it to generate a bit more interest in the others in future years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2009, 02:28:17 PM
Club scene really has taken a hit. Championship with both codes will be a feckin nightmare especially for the SW and SA selects. Where County teams get months to prepare the clubs with all their dual players once again will be told to deal with whatever comes their way regardless of player welfare considerations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 20, 2009, 02:35:53 PM
think there are games fixed for the 2nd of August. then the following week it's championship!!! some prep i tell ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2009, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 10:39:43 PM
Offaly match in Parnell Park on Saturday week

and on it goes..............

And on and on
With all the football talk the match against Offaly has gone quiet. Anyone heading down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 20, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
At least the GAA have shown a bit of sense and put the 2 Antrim hurling teams together. Im sure the Galway minors are decent as usual and will probably have too much for Antrim but hopefully we get to see 1 or 2 decent Antrim prospects for the future. As for the seniors Offaly beat them well in the league and nothing has changed in the mean time to suggest a reversal of that result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 20, 2009, 10:30:26 PM
Seems the holiday problem will strike again on Saturday - a few of the players are supposed to be off on holidays as they thought this game was going to be last week - havent heard who is unavailable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 20, 2009, 11:46:21 PM
heard they are all heading to Santa Ponza and will play Offaly on the beach. 7 a side game

apparently the winners get a side door into the tommy Murphy  cup next year and play Shinty in Iceland!!!!

no league games for 6 months though, but south antrim leagues are great at the moment. we've a game every week without fail.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 21, 2009, 10:38:33 AM
Anyone got any dates for the SHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 21, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
weekend of the 9th then every two weeks, but dont quote me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 21, 2009, 02:41:55 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 21, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
weekend of the 9th then every two weeks, but dont quote me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 21, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
Hard to disagree with Bradley. I would have thought taking it to tullamore would have been a good half way house giving the biffo's home advantage whilst Antrim bring decent support

Bradley hits out at venue choice

21 July 2009

Liam Bradley has branded the decision to fix Antrim's All-Ireland football fourth round qualifier against Kerry for Tullamore as a 'disgrace'.

Antrim chiefs were keen that the footballers' glamour tie be played as a double-header with the hurlers' relegation playoff against Offaly in Parnell Park on Saturday to accommodate supporters who want to see both games, but the CCCC fixed the football game for Tullamore on Sunday instead.

"I think it is an absolute disgrace that the GAA have decided to have the Antrim hurlers play Offaly in a relegation qualifier in Dublin on the Saturday and the footballers in Tullamore on the Sunday," the Antrim football boss fumed.

"They are asking Antrim supporters to travel to Parnell Park on Saturday, then either go back home again or stay and go down to Tullamore the following day. That is disgraceful.

"The GAA are showing no consideration to the supporters whatsoever."

The Derryman also predicted that the choice of Tullamore as the venue for the novel meeting with Jack O'Connor's side will result in a poor attendance.

"It's a very simple thing to do. You know as well as I do that the Kerry supporters won't travel in big numbers this weekend for a qualifier against Antrim.

"We will be very, very lucky if there are 500 Kerry people at that match. They would have had a huge number of Antrim supporters had they had it in Dublin. It is straight down the motorway to Parnell Park which was the obvious choice. I would say there will hardly be 1,000 people in Tullamore on Sunday.

"I have no doubt whatsoever it will put off Antrim supporters as well and rightly so. I wouldn't blame the supporters. In this day and age there is very little money about. Now they have the option of going to two games on two different days. Either that or they go to one game. That's a wee bit sad. There are people in Antrim who love their hurling and their football and they would love to see both county teams."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2009, 08:39:56 AM
Any word of the team for Saturdays match? How are we going to be missing this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: firehill on July 22, 2009, 08:16:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2009, 08:39:56 AM
Any word of the team for Saturdays match? How are we going to be missing this time?

I believe brendan herron is on honeymoon. not sure about the rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on July 22, 2009, 10:05:02 PM
According to Ulster Council site u21s were stuffed by Armagh. What happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 22, 2009, 10:08:17 PM
Other way about. Dont panic...we're not that bad yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2009, 07:22:23 PM
Offaly 1/12 Antrim 13/2 with PP. Surprised Offaly are that short
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 23, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
1/100 would be a safer bet for the bookies.

where can i get my hands on 120,000 grand?

tried to lay that bet but said I'd insufficient funds??? whats that all about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
anyone know who's not available? I think neils away on hols
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 24, 2009, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
anyone know who's not available? I think neils away on hols
McAuley, McGarry or McManus?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
The way things have been going for the passed few weeks who would be suprised if it was all three?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 24, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
MR you seem to be always knocking everthing, rumour has it your where instrumental in destroying what could have been a very strong SA for the Cship, by instructing your lads not to go near it? For a man that has never achieved anything in this game, you do a awful lot of mixing. There must be a real want in you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2009, 02:54:49 PM
Thats a big statement for a friday afternoon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2009, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 24, 2009, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
anyone know who's not available? I think neils away on hols
McAuley, McGarry or McManus?

sorry, mcmanus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 24, 2009, 03:19:17 PM
Seriously though, a lot of it is  tongue&cheek stuff, better watch myself probably get banned for being critical of 1 of the Founding Fathers! MR seems to want to knock everthing and speak of his gambling exploits, CJ and he must be in PP,s a lot together, just sick of looking at his constant negative digs and soap box methodology. Try to be more constructive, your team will need it come chship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
i see my stalker is back with more mis-information.

i've encouraged all my club players to participate in the SA team. Jim Nelson has recieved a poor turn out from all the clubs available to his team. now run off queenie

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
Good we got that one cleared pretty quick

I hear the NA select is going a good bit better, any reason why it is struggling in the city I would have thought since most of the biys went to school together that this would have been an easy one to manage, esp with the limited travel involved for most? Maybe I am looking at it to simplistically.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:45:23 PM
i heard only two people turned up the other night.

Queenie was one of them  :o

as for winning nothing your right. i can only recall winning intermedate and Junior hurling Championships, never the big one but sure my club in its 100 years never has. are we all failures then?

I'm off to the local hardware store, life's not worth living if i don't win big ears

sorry for being negative Queenie, I'll be more positive like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
no mcmanus hippy or pj o connell, cj, dan mckillop and karl stewart back in,

Sean D dropped, with eddie mccloskey playing wing half back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 24, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
Might not matter what the team selection is; the 4 counties in the relegation matches tomorrow are meeting with the DRA now in an attempt to get the 2 games cancelled. What a fiasco.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 25, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:45:23 PM
i heard only two people turned up the other night.

Queenie was one of them  :o

as for winning nothing your right. i can only recall winning intermedate and Junior hurling Championships, never the big one but sure my club in its 100 years never has. are we all failures then?

I'm off to the local hardware store, life's not worth living if i don't win big ears

sorry for being negative Queenie, I'll be more positive like
Quote from: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
i see my stalker is back with more mis-information.


i've encouraged all my club players to participate in the SA team. Jim Nelson has recieved a poor turn out from all the clubs available to his team. now run off queenie


MR thats BS,allegedly you,ve purposely discouraged participating and Jim knows it, get a grip!  Hurling behind the scenes in your club is totally discriminated against and you know it! They pay lip service to Hurling when by this stage the club should have had at least 2 Cships IMO, so to answer your idiotic question covering your ass by shifting it to the collective yes! you are all failures. One cannot deny the fantastic achievements of the football and a credit to the club for its continued success,and long may it continue to set standards from grass roots, however Hurling is a very poor relation!

A fantastic opportunity to help hurling in Belfast which is on its knees, has been destroyed by small minded people like yourself who have not the forsight or intellectual ability to see past the petty indifference's and really do something historic and constructive for once. You and others have denied the hurling people of Belfast a fantastic opportunity to get behind what I and  lots of other people felt was a golden chance to help unite hurling in the city! Stalker, Christ you seem to have a high opinion of yourself and your position on this board, stick to the bookies MR and less of the History lessons! Of course this will be all about you, and some of your colleagues will rally to your defence on the board, the fact remains a great chance to do something in the city has been lost, and all you can contribute is telling us 2 people turned up! Nelson deserves more respect and commitment, and you and others have seen that he has got neither.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 25, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Queenie on July 25, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:45:23 PM
i heard only two people turned up the other night.

Queenie was one of them  :o

as for winning nothing your right. i can only recall winning intermedate and Junior hurling Championships, never the big one but sure my club in its 100 years never has. are we all failures then?

I'm off to the local hardware store, life's not worth living if i don't win big ears

sorry for being negative Queenie, I'll be more positive like
Quote from: milltown row on July 24, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
i see my stalker is back with more misinformation.


I've encouraged all my club players to participate in the SA team. Jim Nelson has received a poor turn out from all the clubs available to his team. now run off Queenie


MR thats BS,allegedly you,vie purposely discouraged participating and Jim knows it, get a grip!  Hurling behind the scenes in your club is totally discriminated against and you know it! They pay lip service to Hurling when by this stage the club should have had at least 2 Cs hips IMO, so to answer your idiotic question covering your ass by shifting it to the collective yes! you are all failures. One cannot deny the fantastic achievements of the football and a credit to the club for its continued success,and long may it continue to set standards from grass roots, however Hurling is a very poor relation!

A fantastic opportunity to help hurling in Belfast which is on its knees, has been destroyed by small minded people like yourself who have not the forsight or intellectual ability to see past the petty indifference's and really do something historic and constructive for once. You and others have denied the hurling people of Belfast a fantastic opportunity to get behind what I and  lots of other people felt was a golden chance to help unite hurling in the city! Stalker, Christ you seem to have a high opinion of yourself and your position on this board, stick to the bookies MR and less of the History lessons! Of course this will be all about you, and some of your colleagues will rally to your defence on the board, the fact remains a great chance to do something in the city has been lost, and all you can contribute is telling us 2 people turned up! Nelson deserves more respect and commitment, and you and others have seen that he has got neither.




again Queenie your misinformed i was with Jim on a training course at Casement and we discussed at length the SA team and the players who could play for it. in fact i gave him names of other player who i believe would bolster that team. i was also talking to Jim at a Challenge game I'd arranged (due to the lack of foresight of the the county to arrange proper league games) and again we talked about it.

i challenge you to meet and talk about your BS remarks and establish where you got your shite information.

but you are a stalker. As for my colleagues on this board!!! i don't know anyone on this board nor do i wish to. people have their opinions and say them others will either agree or disagree. some are in jest and others have a sting behind them.

get off your high horse and talk some sense sometime and stop your fascination with me. I'm flattered but get over yourself

why dont you go back a few pages and you'll see the names of players i i'd said would make a good SA team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 25, 2009, 11:44:33 AM
Talk is cheap MR, you challenge me! Maybe some of your team members mis-heard over a few pints, barstool talk! Fascination, Jesus that hi opinion strikes again, phrases like charliton!!!!, two-faced, backstabber i could go on. A history lesson for u, in Ancient Sparta those that shouted the loudest used to win the argument, the best defense is attack, I'm not singling you out,however  don,t come on this board and act that you are fully behind something that privately you have expressed a total distaste for. Have the B**** to stand up and type what you really think and are expressing privately that,s all i ask. Our are you just worried about your street cred on the board.

I,d say Jim listened you talked and he took a pinch of salt. He has forgotton more than you will ever hope to know about the game, you gave him the names of players, Jesus MR you really do need help, you instructing Jim :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 25, 2009, 12:18:59 PM


i was at the first training session Jim took at Corrigan Park. there was Galls men there and 3 StPauls men and 1 McDermott's man and A Lamhs player.

so was my club at fault? Where was all the Sarsfields men the St Teresa's men and all the other clubs that should be pushing themselves into this team?

Even the better st Paul's players did not even turn up and support Jim (a fellow clubman) that night nor anyother night.

players from the team expressed their private views to me about this team, i will not discuss them here with you but i will meet you (should you like) to iron out your problems with the issues you have with me. you can PM me if you like.

what team members informed you? and i don't have 'street cred' nor do i seek it

also i never came on here and said i knew more than Jim Nelson, he asked me about players in the club who'd be willing to play.

what date do they play Cushendall?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on July 25, 2009, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 25, 2009, 12:18:59 PM


i was at the first training session Jim took at Corrigan Park. there was Galls men there and 3 StPauls men and 1 McDermott's man and A Lamhs player.

so was my club at fault? Where was all the Sarsfields men the St Teresa's men and all the other clubs that should be pushing themselves into this team?

Even the better st Paul's players did not even turn up and support Jim (a fellow clubman) that night nor anyother night.

players from the team expressed their private views to me about this team, i will not discuss them here with you but i will meet you (should you like) to iron out your problems with the issues you have with me. you can PM me if you like.

what team members informed you? and i don't have 'street cred' nor do i seek it

also i never came on here and said i knew more than Jim Nelson, he asked me about players in the club who'd be willing to play.

what date do they play Cushendall?




MR I don,t have the problem, however your offer to meet intrigues me? I am asking myself should i bring the footstool? So that we discuss the issues F2F, suffice to say the real people know the truth, and i think your defensive posts say it all. I would give the board up, you probably are doing yourself an injustice in the long run, i hear your not a bad spud, and on the discussion that you offered, grow up ;) Mismatch of the year, put it back in your trousers, justifies my previous comments "Idiot". Belfast hurling this year has lost its best opportunity to lift itself, and at least you can say that you where part of that.

I will take my leave, all that needs to said on my part is done, i hope that sometime in the future someone can lift Hurling in the City. North Antrim seem to be doing it and they deserve the credit thats due them, the town won,t get an easy game and hopefully that will prove my point, and stick to people who killed it in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 25, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
you've offered nothing and can't back any of your claims up. your reluctance in meeting me for a discussion is strange, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on why Belfast hurling is in the dolldrums.

I've worked for many years with other committed hurling men in NaomhGall to continue with the Caman sport. but your view is that because we win football championships handy enough that we should just forget about it? I've travelled the length and breadth of the province with juveniles playing in tournaments encouraging parents that hurling was a safe and great game. i don't have to prove to anyone about my involvement in promoting hurling in Belfast.

you stated that we needed to unite hurling in the city. do you think that Rossa and the Johnnies would unite? i spoke many years ago to a Sarsfield's man who's brother is hurling referee and we talked about a belfast hurling only club. all the pro's and cons surrounding it. we finished up with that it would have to be started from scratch I.E under 6's and with a view come senior they would be challenging for honours.

i cant make out your angle here. is it St galls you have a problem with, me personally (but you don't even know me) or the fact that Belfast hurling is not great at the minute? I'll let you into a secret. Belfast hurling has been poor for years. pretty good at juvenile but come senior we have lost all the quality players to the big ball game.

I'm interested in what is it you do that promotes hurling in the city. Queenie don't leave so soon. season is only starting






Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 25, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
Offaly giving Antrim a serious hiding 1-26 to 0-12 at present. We are in complete and total freefall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on July 25, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on July 25, 2009, 04:24:46 PM
Offaly giving Antrim a serious hiding 1-26 to 0-12 at present. We are in complete and total freefall.

It finished 1-28 to 0-13, Antrin finishing with 14 men ( not sure who got the road ).



Saffrons 'saved' by DRA verdict 

Offaly's Odhran Kealey battles with Antrim's Aaron Graffin
Antrim's All-Ireland Hurling relegation play-off against Offaly appears to have been rendered meaningless following a marathon DRA meeting on Friday night.

BBC Sport understands that the DRA is recommending that there will be no relegation from the Liam McCarthy Cup following appeals from four counties.

The DRA is believed to have ruled that Ring Cup winners Carlow be promoted into a 13-team Liam McCarthy Cup.

Antrim v Offaly is going ahead on Saturday with Clare facing Wexford.

However, while the GAA released a statement on Saturday morning saying that the play-offs would go ahead, it now appears that there will be no relegation.

That is providing Congress ratifies the DRA's verdict.

The Saffrons, Offaly, Clare and Wexford submitted an appeal calling for Saturday's two matches to be halted because of the relegation controversy.

All four counties attended the DRA meeting in Dundalk and the gathering didn't break up until 0230 BST on Saturday morning.

Antrim will be without Neil McManus and Neil McAuley on Saturday.

Both players booked holidays for this week some time ago as the original fixture schedule had the Saffrons with a weekend off.

Shane McNaughton and Karl Stewart were ruled out of Antrim's last game clash against Laois for similar reasons.

McManus' absence from the Parnell Park game is probably an even bigger blow.

The Saffrons believed that there were promised three seasons in the Leinster Championship at last year's Special Congress and believe that they have been hoodwinked.

The losers of Saturday's play-offs are then scheduled to meet with the losers dropping out of the top tier next year with Christy Ring Cup champions Carlow replacing them.

Antrim joint-manager Sambo McNaughton acknowledged that it would be an "understatement" to say that the loss of McManus and McAuley is a huge blow.

"The match was put back a week and the boys had booked holidays," said McNaughton.

"We have tried to get around it but they are coming under the usual pressures so we're going to be without them."



CJ McGourty was dropped from the Antrim football squad in late March
McNaughton remains sceptical about the play-offs, venturing that he cannot see the likes of Clare, Wexford and Offaly playing Christy Ring Cup hurling next season - if results go against them over the next couple of weeks.

"The powers that be will be hoping that we lose our next two games so that we can be relegated.

"I mean, are they going to let Clare be relegated and having only four teams in the Munster Championship next year? Not likely."

But while McNaughton is disenchanted at how the county has been treated, he is calling on the Saffron squad to show their true ability after a largely disappointing 2009.

"If we play to our ability, then we can give Offaly their fill of it although it would still come down to the puck of the ball and the odd break here and there.

"They beat us by five points in the league and there wasn't that much in it that day.

"But we need to get out and compete right from the off."

In addition to the absence of McManus and McAuley, Antrim have also made a number of other changes from the disappointing defeat by Laois.

Shane McNaughton and Karl Stewart return while CJ McGourty is also recalled to the attack after playing in the previous game against Dublin.

Those losing out include Cormac Donnelly and PJ O'Connell.

Eddie McCloskey switches to replace McAuley at wing-back while Michael Herron is preferred to Sean Delargy at midfield.

Offaly will be without injured forward Joe Brady while Rory Hannify is also said to be a major fitness doubt.


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Antrim: R McGarry, K McGourty, N McGarry, A Graffin; C Herron, J Campbell, E McCloskey; M Herron, K McKeegan; D McKillop, K Stewart, J Scullion; S McNaughton, P Richmond, CJ McGourty.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 25, 2009, 08:25:18 PM
That was a hard afternoons viewing in Parnell Pk. Minors outclassed 4.23 to 0.10 by what looks like a superb Galway team. Galway were a big team with excellent hurlers all over the pitch and in particular there no.6, 9, 11 and 13 to mention a few. There was a skill gap there but what struck me was the way Galway used their size; they rarely lost 50 50 tussles and dominated in the air especially in their half back line. They also read the game better, anticipated breaks and played at a higher pace. Which of course leads to the question how to get Antrim teams up to the pace? Who ever comes up with the answer to that in Antrim will be the man!!!

As for the senior game it was nearly a mirror image of the minor; Offaly are a bigger more athletic team, totally dominate in the and could take scores when they had to. Graffin again was the only man that offered any real resistance or quality. A dissapointing day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 25, 2009, 10:57:52 PM
Why were Mc Manus and Mc Auley on holiday with a match today? Before anyone says it was allocated as a free weekend in error a weeks drinking on holiday isn't great preparation for upcoming matches, it just doesent seem to happen in counties that are serious about winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on July 25, 2009, 11:10:32 PM
The question is why are all these players taking holidays in July instead of August or September ( when was the last time Antrim hurled into September?) nthey cant take holidays in August or September in case they miss club championship so they organise the holidays round their priorities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 26, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
Terence McNaughton and Dominic McKinley - Thank you. You did your best.


Will these lads stay on ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 26, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
yeah HS its sad, I would have been behind the two guys from the outset but I think them going is the best thing possible. TBH I don't believe they had their heart in the 3rd year as opposed to other years.

but thanks anyway and all the best for the future

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 26, 2009, 11:11:26 PM
I keep saying it every year. Why do we not concentrate on get our club game strong again before we start expecting a capable county team. All this time effectively wasted when it could and should be put to better use from a long term perspective. Of course Antrim admin wouldn't have a word of it  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2009, 11:18:28 PM
Woody has stepped down already sure. I don't know much about sambo personally but the word on the street is that he wouldn't put himself in a position where only he is accountable so doubt he'd stay on...

So what skull - disband the county team? We should be relegated to christy ring where we deserve to be and we should try to develop our players at that level. We have games in division 2 against better opposition which will help us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 26, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Its the time and effort and expense dedicated to preparing the County team I have the problem with ITG. This whole notion that we learn from playing matches down south just doesn't stack up and hasn't for nearly 20 years. Players need to be developed from the ground up not thrown into the deep end like I believe they are currently to sink or swim. An improved coaching base in all clubs, a good development structure aligned with proper focus on good local competition is far more important than taking a punt year in year out on panels which just aren't at the right level because of poor coaching, development structures and poor leagues to expect anything other than the odd good result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 27, 2009, 10:50:15 AM
It was always the plan for them to do their 3 year term. With woody working as coaching officer for the county all his time and effort should be aimed at this role. Sambo also said he was going to go at the end of the season (common knowledge I gather round the Dall).

Who next?

God knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
Seriously, does anyone know anyone out there that would be interested in the post?

Who would we like to see involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Skull while at some level I agree with you we still need to compete as a county.

The problem is:
- too good for christy ring - well this may not be the case any more to be honest
- not good enough for liam

I'm not sure if you're suggesting we forget about our county team or whether we just pay it lip service?

The "grass roots" approach is definitely something needs improved however where do you go with it. Do you think we can the county team for ten years and do the grass roots thing right? In ten years time say then how do we know if we've done it right? Stick out another county team against top opposition and see where we stand? What if we don't stand anywhere?

As a county you need aspirations. What I think your key problem seems to be is that you believe as a county we have short term aspirations and perhaps the longer term aspirations fseem to be given less priority. A balance of both needs found. I would have said player development is improving and Seamus Elliot would have helped a lot in North Antrim. The leagues, division 1 anyway, don't seem to be taken that seriously either. How that gets improved I don't know.

The reality of it is that at the minute we have a poor side. The batch of minors we thought were going to make us competitive are, a select few aside, not quite cutting it at this level. The reality also is that we have some backs of quality (McManus and Graffn being the stand out ones) but we have a very poor crop of forwards at the minute and that is one thing that I believe is the main reason we are so poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 27, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
I think Skulls point, and indeed Woody refers to it in todays papers, with all these county matches the club scene simply does not have the weekends or the regularity (?) to prosper.  Dunloy played 2 matches in June, none for reserves. Not the way to keep interest in a sport, indeed in Summer for lots of hurlers it becomes a spectator sport, where the excitment is generated not but participation in our own leagues but by the hype of the Munster Championship, how can our hurlers ever be the equal when we spend our days in awe of them

the horse has to go before the cart, we need our club hurling to be of a high quality before the county will follow, Dinny to his credit managed to improve the skills of 10-15 of our best hurlers, but this approach is not sustainable. 

Also note Cushendall put a good win against Loughgiel, a bit untypical of the Dall to be in form this early in the year but maybe the though draw has forced their hand, anyone at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 12:53:53 PM
So we are all in agreement that we need to develop the grass roots and bring it through in a proper structured way.

But while that is happening is there anyone out there who can have the mangerial skills to get a team prepared while giving the clubs their fair share to get the hurling scene back up on to its feet in Antrim?

Max any names from Dunloy worth a mention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
"But while that is happening is there anyone out there who can have the mangerial skills to get a team prepared while giving the clubs their fair share to get the hurling scene back up on to its feet in Antrim?"

I don't believe so. The reality is there are too few prepared to really try and deliver proper coaching standards in clubs and as a result get burnt out because they are fighting against the tide of apathy and lack of support. We are being killed by a lack of enthusiastic adults with children prepared to step up and show the right level of passion for the game. There is no point just balming S&W and the County Team for our woes. Leadership at this stage is vital. The administration in this County needs to wake up and show a different way forward that has a long term well planned strategy to turn the ship around. History has taught me from a county administration point of view to expect the same old same old.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 01:45:41 PM
I understand what you are saying skull.

But my point being, what would be wrong with appointing a manger and giving him the remit to go around the senior and junionr clubs and assess the level of training that all our players are getting. Therefore he could see where the fall downs are and maybe run seminars for these coaches throughout the year that are mandatory.
Therefore lifting the level of coaching through out the county, yes it is short term for the senior panel for now but just one idea allied to the juvenille strucutures being sorted for future generations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 27, 2009, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 01:45:41 PM
I understand what you are saying skull.

But my point being, what would be wrong with appointing a manger and giving him the remit to go around the senior and junionr clubs and assess the level of training that all our players are getting. Therefore he could see where the fall downs are and maybe run seminars for these coaches throughout the year that are mandatory.
Therefore lifting the level of coaching through out the county, yes it is short term for the senior panel for now but just one idea allied to the juvenille strucutures being sorted for future generations.


Is that not the job of these full time coaches we now have?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 01:56:42 PM
Yeah but they obviously arent doing it, maybe the county manager would have more sway with some of these coaches anyway and if it was part of a mandatory session thing then they would get more respect and would help them develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 27, 2009, 02:17:13 PM
NAG1, these officers have only been in a matter of weeks and months, both at county and Ulster level. You talk about player development being a long process, then give these officers a wee bit more time to see where they believe things go wrong.

You cant simply barge in after a week or 2 and say to the clubs- this is the way things are going to go. You need to evaluate the clubs, have discussions and set out a plan. The benefits of these officers will not be known for months yet.

A senior County manager may not be the best man for youth development. Ideally we would like a Micky Moran type of person who is looking at the whole set up with the county he is managing but that is completely unique. This will be the jobs of the FT coaching officers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
Im not talking about these new coaches I am prepared to give them time, but if they are working to the same plans as the previous ones then no progress will be made.

We are woefully under funded for the size of our county in terms of coaches on the ground.

Im not talking youth development by the county manager I am talk about him going around Senior sessions in each club to assess the standard then to help design a programme to coach these coaches etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 27, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
Will this years relative success by the footballers and the level of support behind them mean that the county board will channel more money and resource into driving football in the county to the detriment of hurling? Discuss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
Was this not always the case? TB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 27, 2009, 04:23:45 PM
Cushendall beat Loughgiel and i heard that Johnny Campbell broke a leg during the match and another injury to a Loughgiel man!!

oh how did they get on with the Fies final incident?

be a big blow to Loughgiel should they be missing him.

as for the finance between the county teams, I'd like to think its equal. would show disrespect to the managers should there be different levels regarding a budget.

i don't think we can put the senior team on hold Skull, but a policy of club teams playing with their county players regularly and those players training at least once a week their clubs would be a start. Also if the clubs have a league game 4/5 days before a county game, then they should be able to play. better than training. Players can get hurt in county training as much as club games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on July 27, 2009, 04:31:49 PM
Quote from: milltown row on July 27, 2009, 04:23:45 PM
Cushendall beat Loughgiel and i heard that Johnny Campbell broke a leg during the match and another injury to a Loughgiel man!!

oh how did they get on with the Fies final incident?

be a big blow to Loughgiel should they be missing him.

Johnny campbell has broken ankle I think and James cambell has a broken hand.

The loughgiel fan apparently got a 2 years suspension from all games, dont see how thats going to work but :-\ 
Ding also has been suspended for 2 months following the feis game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2009, 04:43:22 PM
Bad luck for Johnny. He was hurling well. Is James a brother? Can see Ding coming back to fill that space if MrT actually mean't skinner as opposed to Ding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 27, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
Nope Skull i think, or at least i heard the Ding had got suspeded out of an incident seen on the video footage. 

bad bit of Fortune for JC, terrific hurler and really makes the Shamrocks tick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 27, 2009, 05:00:19 PM
Big blow for Loughgiel if JC is out for a while. i would imagine he would then be out for rest of the season if County Final is originally planned for 27th September. Yeah James is his younger brother.

Skinner got sent off in Final so he will bount to have got a suspension also.

On another note. Hoganstand reports that game with Wexford is postponed until further notice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MrT on July 27, 2009, 05:29:16 PM
Skinner got 2 months, but Ding also got 2 months after video evidence was used. Not sure what he did.
JC will be a huge miss.  Hope he recovers quick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
News to me about Ding .... he's got previous so not surprised

BTW: On my comments on County Team preparations. I never suggested putting them on hold, but I am saying that in terms of priority the focus needs to move to other things to develop the game to enable the right quality of hurler to get through to County level. Expectations also need to change until the structures are improved. I could gaurentee that a coming together of a panel of players who are playing well in the leagues 5 days ahead of a county match would do just as well as the way we do it at present (like they do in soccer). So no need for these massive gaps in the club leagues that we have at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 27, 2009, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 27, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
Was this not always the case? TB
Aye but I think the expectation was that the good Dr., being a Glensman, would champion the cause of hurling. It's going to be almost impossible if things progress as they are at the minute. The new Centre of Excellence is the answer to all the problems. Apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 27, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
I see Shane Jennings from Ballycastle is playing for Co.Antrim in Milk Cup against Man Utd which is on the BBC website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 28, 2009, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on July 27, 2009, 04:23:45 PM


as for the finance between the county teams, I'd like to think its equal. would show disrespect to the managers should there be different levels regarding a budget.


Aye but it takes a fair bit more to run a hurling team than a football team with the cost of hurls and balls which need replaced every few sessions far outweighing the cost of a dozen or so footballs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 28, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
there will prob be more mileage costs involved for the hurlers, further to travel to for the hurlers than the footballers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 28, 2009, 02:39:52 PM
Sure the hurlers werent being paid any expenses at all earlier in the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 28, 2009, 02:44:30 PM
explain NAG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 28, 2009, 02:45:30 PM
Well I had been chatting to some of the County hurlers and they hadnt recieved any expenses from the county for over three months. This was around the start of April.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 28, 2009, 04:31:44 PM
I know the county administrators have prob been busy due to the amount of game both the hurlers and footballers have had but if that is true then its poor enough

on a plus side at least their are fixtures on this weekend
Loughgiel  St. Johns  Loughgiel Shamrocks 02/08/2009 14:30 TBC   
Cushendall  Ballygalget  Cushendall 02/08/2009 14:30 TBC   
Ballycran  Ballycastle  Ballycran 02/08/2009 14:30 TBC   
Portaferry  Dunloy  Portaferry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 29, 2009, 09:26:07 AM
Ulster Hurling League Semi Final

Rossa 2:10 Dunloy 0:15

Rossa clinched it with a goal in the last minute after some slack defending but there would be few in Dunloy argue with the result, very poor performance by Dunloy all round, Rossa clearly the more motivated, hungry team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 29, 2009, 09:27:04 AM
What was the dunloy team Max?

Who played well for Rossa? Thats a big scalp for them and should be the motivation they need to get back up to Div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 29, 2009, 09:41:26 AM
Sunloy were fairly strong, didn't play the u21's involved tonight but lined out as magee, mickey, damien mcmullan, cathair cunning, kevin martin, mal molloy, paudie shivers, darren webb, nancy, dick, paddy richmond, darren quinn, sean dowds, denver kelly, leo

Rossa played well as a team, certainly better than ourselves, with Gavin Bell and Chris Hamill prominent, a number 7 seemed to hurl well in second half and was hitting free's well.  Mickey Kettle in corner forward was unusual to see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
As slack as the backs were for a few of the scores Max they weren't that bad overall, and my take on it is that if the opposition score twelve times then you'd be expecting Dunloy to out gun that return. But we were simply shocking up front in the second half and thats the long and short of it. Bits and peiced of headless effort without any cut, thrust, teamplay or end product in mind. No breaking ball winners, no blocks, no hooks allowed easy clearance after easy clearance and provided plenty of oxegen for Rossas forward line to give us what we deserved. Some boys who are not lacking in talent need a good toe up their hole after that. No where near good enough and unless we see forwards starting to take games by the scruff then our championship hopes are zero.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 29, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
When will Shorty be back in action?

I'd say Rossa also were missing a few from the u21's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 29, 2009, 11:50:47 AM
I heard he was out for the season but should be back in time for next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 29, 2009, 12:34:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 29, 2009, 09:41:26 AM
Sunloy were fairly strong, didn't play the u21's involved tonight but lined out as magee, mickey, damien mcmullan, cathair cunning, kevin martin, mal molloy, paudie shivers, darren webb, nancy, dick, paddy richmond, darren quinn, sean dowds, denver kelly, leo

Rossa played well as a team, certainly better than ourselves, with Gavin Bell and Chris Hamill prominent, a number 7 seemed to hurl well in second half and was hitting free's well.  Mickey Kettle in corner forward was unusual to see

i'd say the number 7 would have been Shannon. the young lad. very good hurler and still a minor. good result for Rossa and they seem to be making in-roads this year. with a few good minors to come into the panel over the next few years they may get back on track
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Anyone at the U21 match last night?...couldn't make it. Derry have normally been tough opposition at this level in the past so they must have done rightly judging by the scoreline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2009, 10:44:26 AM
What was the score skull?

Derry had a round of senior football fixtures tuesday night which would have involved over half their hurling squad, tough two nights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2009, 11:03:43 AM
Friend at it said it wasn't great at all.

Antrim beat Derry in Under 21 Hurling Final - Antrim 1-18 Derry 0-9

29 July 2009
Though far from impressive Antrim had too much hurling for Derry as they clinched the Ulster Under 21 title with a 1-18 to 0-9 win over the Oak Leaf boys at Casement Park.
Leading by just a point at the end of the opening quarter Antrim took a firm grip on the game when corner-forward CJ McGourty fired home the only goal of the game.
After that the Saffrons were well on top and went to lead by 1-8 to 0-3 at half time.
The second-half saw a similar pattern as Antrim picked off the points a couple in particular from Darren Hamill which really caught the eye.
Derry did manage to add six more points to their total, but Antrim were always in control, though they will know that their performance would fall well short of what will be needed in their semi-final clash with Kilkenny.
Scorers -- Antrim: CJ McGourty 1-6 (5f); R Donnelly 0-3; PJ O'Connell, E McCloskey, N McManus 0-2 each; P Doherty, D Hamill, P McNaughton 0-1 each. Derry: S Dodds 0-5f; A Kelly 0-2; C McElhinny, Cormac McKenna 0-1 each.

Antrim -- C O'Connell; C McKinley, C Donnelly, K McKeague; C Carson, A Graffin, C McKinley; PJ O'Connell, T McCann; P McNaughton, E McCloskey, N McManus; D Hamill, P Doherty, CJ McGourty. Subs: R Donnelly for C Carson, M Armstrong for N McManus, K Molloy for K McKeague

Derry -- D McDermott; D McCloskey, Conor McKenna, L Craig; S Cassidy, S McNicholl, C Murphy; O McCloskey, N Holly; G O'Neill, Cormac McKenna, S Dodds; P Cleary, S McCloskey, A Kelly. Subs: C McElhinny for G O'Neill, M Bradley for Cormac McKenna, J Darragh for S McCloskey, S Logue for P Cleary.

Ref -- G Devlin (Armagh)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2009, 11:05:03 AM
Skull - is that the same Kevin McKeague that got a pretty bad leg injury last year?
If so fair play to him for getting back to that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 30, 2009, 11:30:35 AM
Who is T McCann? where is he from. Strange that Paddy McNaughton decided to hurl for the u21's but wouldn't play for the minors? Still minor next year though. Hurling very well for our seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
I thought that was against the rules to play for an age group above your own without playing your own?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2009, 11:51:49 AM
Yes Glensman, thats Kevin. He had a tough year and a bit, but you'll not find a more committed individual and he is getting back to the level he was at now.

T McCann must be Thomas from Creggan. A good big lad with a very good attitude and application to the game.  
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2009, 11:52:28 AM
I think T McCann is Tomas McCann from Creggan, They've had a few boys floating round underage panels this last few years.

That's a strong enough side for u21 level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 30, 2009, 11:55:17 AM
I'd say it was his own personal choice NAG, I dont think that can be enforced
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2009, 12:16:29 PM
Its not a matter of choice Colonel, he either plays his own age group or he plays nothing. Its not a matter or picking and choosing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 30, 2009, 12:21:44 PM
Where is the regulation on this NAG, you need to back it up rather than it being one of the unwritten rules for clubs and not counties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2009, 12:25:26 PM
I dont have a copy of the rule book on me, but I am nearly 100% sure that it is in the regulations that a player must play his own age group before he can play elsewhere.

Im not getting at anyone dont even know the young lad involved but to me its not right that he is good enough tom play u21 but yet saw fit not to play for the minors?
That is not right on any level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 30, 2009, 12:51:56 PM
I'm not having a go but I think it is more of an unwritten rule. I have never heard of it at County level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 30, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
From County Website- Is someone watching

Jim30 July 2009
Is there a rule whereby a player cannot play an age group above? ???

A player can play in one age group above his own and he doesn't have to have played in his own age group before competing in the other. Where do you people get this stuff?

You people must mean they have been checking us out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2009, 02:57:32 PM
You mean someone has less to do than us!

I know at club level for sure there is a rule that if a player is not playing at his own age group level then he cannot play at the level above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 31, 2009, 10:56:34 AM
Championship fixtures from our website. good days hurling. Everyone may bring the flask of tae and the hang sandwhiches

Ruairi Og v South Antrim @ 7.00pm in Loughgiel
Glenariffe v South West @ 5.30pm in Loughgiel
Loughgiel v St Johns @ 3.00pm in Dunloy
North Antrim v Ballycastle @ 1.30pm in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 31, 2009, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 31, 2009, 10:56:34 AM
Championship fixtures from our website. good days hurling. Everyone may bring the flask of tae and the hang sandwhiches

Ruairi Og v South Antrim @ 7.00pm in Loughgiel
Glenariffe v South West @ 5.30pm in Loughgiel
Loughgiel v St Johns @ 3.00pm in Dunloy
North Antrim v Ballycastle @ 1.30pm in Dunloy

I assume these fixtures are all set for the 9th?

Any updates as to how the mixed teams are doing in their preparations?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 31, 2009, 11:35:05 AM
Yeah all for the 9th

North Antrim have been doing a good bit of training and played a good few challenge games,

Not sure about the rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 31, 2009, 02:31:57 PM
I hear the SA select is struggling which is such a pity as they were the one that really could have made an impact on the championship with some of the players available to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2009, 03:06:46 PM
I'm sure that alot of other justifible reasons will be used to explain why they couldn't get their sh1t together and alot of them genuine, but wouldn't the unhealthly relations between certain clubs make it difficult to find way round any other difficulties?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2009, 03:44:07 PM
can't possibly comment on this subject as I'm the main reason to why Belfast teams have not turned up ::) ::)

i feel I've really achieved something in my life now.

but in all seriousness this team could have made a decent fist of a match. maybe even catching the Dall on the hop early on.

clubs that can use players for this team:

Ardoyne Kickhams        1?
Lámh Dhearg              3/4         
Michael Davitt's            1
Patrick Sarsfield's          2/3
Sean McDermott's        2
St. Agnes'                   1
St. Enda's                    1
St. Gall's                     7/8
St. Paul's                   4/5
St. Teresa's                 1

maybe a series of hurling challenge games pre-season would have been better to gather momentum.

issues though will arise if this team beats Cushendall. Junior and intermedate games are fixed for the following weekend. players might pick up injuries or suspensions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 01, 2009, 12:30:31 AM
NAG1... Paddy Mc Naughton was not playing for minor county team as he was there at the start of the year and was dropped, so who cares if there is a rule. he made the attempt and if you have a problem with it maybe you should take it up with the minor county mentors but if hes not on the squad for the minors how can he play?
he's been playin excellent hurling for cushendall minor and senior teams recenlty and was asked to join the u21 county panel as a result of this, but his absense from the county minors is a result of management!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 01, 2009, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 29, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
As slack as the backs were for a few of the scores Max they weren't that bad overall, and my take on it is that if the opposition score twelve times then you'd be expecting Dunloy to out gun that return. But we were simply shocking up front in the second half and thats the long and short of it. Bits and peiced of headless effort without any cut, thrust, teamplay or end product in mind. No breaking ball winners, no blocks, no hooks allowed easy clearance after easy clearance and provided plenty of oxegen for Rossas forward line to give us what we deserved. Some boys who are not lacking in talent need a good toe up their hole after that. No where near good enough and unless we see forwards starting to take games by the scruff then our championship hopes are zero.

Geez Skull by the sounds of that Dunloy will hardly bother turning up for the championship they are so bad  :P

It was an Ulster League match and you were missing a few; i wouldnt read too much in to it.

On another issue, and it might have been mentioned here before, but why dont they try having Ulster league matches in June and July? There were only 4 Div 1 hurling matches played in June and July, just 4!! I know you have the dual issue in other counties and Ring, Rackard Cup etc but surely some of these games could be played on a Wed nite. The club players are simply not getting enough games ahead of championship in August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 01, 2009, 10:01:44 AM

Geez Skull by the sounds of that Dunloy will hardly bother turning up for the championship they are so bad  :P

It was an Ulster League match and you were missing a few; i wouldnt read too much in to it.

On another issue, and it might have been mentioned here before, but why dont they try having Ulster league matches in June and July? There were only 4 Div 1 hurling matches played in June and July, just 4!! I know you have the dual issue in other counties and Ring, Rackard Cup etc but surely some of these games could be played on a Wed nite. The club players are simply not getting enough games ahead of championship in August.
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we were due to play Shane O'Neills today as this was our fixture from the start of the year but championship football is on. asked to play Glenarm on wed night but they declined saying the have a match on Tuesday night, a divisonal match!! cant get games or team wont play its not all the counties fault for games not being played.

means that we havent had a fixture for over a month before championship. Great prep :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on August 02, 2009, 10:55:15 PM
Glenariff beaten by Rossa at home by one point. Tight game with both teams making lots of errors. Not the best game I've ever watched.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2009, 09:40:50 AM
Quote from: Peggy on August 01, 2009, 12:30:31 AM
NAG1... Paddy Mc Naughton was not playing for minor county team as he was there at the start of the year and was dropped, so who cares if there is a rule. he made the attempt and if you have a problem with it maybe you should take it up with the minor county mentors but if hes not on the squad for the minors how can he play?
he's been playin excellent hurling for cushendall minor and senior teams recenlty and was asked to join the u21 county panel as a result of this, but his absense from the county minors is a result of management!!!!

Peggy if you had read our disccussion you would have seen that this was not a dig at PMcN. It was merely a discussion around the rule. Although you do seem overly sesnsitive to this situation, maybe a little loyalty clouding your reading ability.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2009, 11:18:46 AM
Any of the Dunloy posters know anything about the fixtures for sunday, I believe it is clashing with their festival are they still going to host the games on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 03, 2009, 11:23:08 AM
we were up in the Dall yesterday and got beaten 19 points to 14 in a fairly dour contest. The Dall were getting their scores easier and we never really threatened enough to get the goal we badly needed to close the gap. We're now well into a relegation battle so we'd better get the finger out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 03, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
Nag1....i had no problem reading the discussion clearly, but it was as if u were a we bit touchy on the sublect, rules r broke in GAA all the time so there is simply no need to come onto this forum to try and reinforce them! and what if there is loyalty issues? were u never taught to stand up for your own? who cares which teams he plays for, if he's playing for your county n playing well, is that not enough??


+ Fixture Change
SHC 9th aug
Ballycaslte V North Antrim 1:30 pm Cushendall
Loughgiel V St.Johns 3:00pm Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Peggy,
everyone is entitled to their opinion, I took my position on an issue and it had nothing to do with the fact the person in question is in fact 'your own'.

If i was you I would be questioning the minor manangement to ask why they didnt use him.

My point had nothing to do with him playing well of otherwise it was simply the fact that he should be playing his age group group first. ( I understand that it was not by choice, but i dont like the precedent that this sets)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 03, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Guessing that fixture change Peggy is due to Dunloy having a festival on...was surprised to see two fixtures were down from there when I believe there is a festival on there at the weekend.
Would have made for a great day...2 matches in Dunloy and then two matches in Loughgeil...a bit further between Cushendall.
Anyone for all 4 then?

Ruairi Og v South Antrim @ 7.00pm in Loughgiel
Glenariffe v South West @ 5.30pm in Loughgiel
Loughgiel v St Johns @ 3.00pm in Cushendall
North Antrim v Ballycastle @ 1.30pm in Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 03, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
Any word on the rumours that two of the divisional teams can't field this weekend. We play SA it should have been a tricky match if the MC Goats and the Herrons were playing. Our lads have started to show some form, some lads AD, Monty, Declan and Elliott back plus some of the young lads Paddy Mc Naughton ans Sean Birt have been really impressive lately. Both wiil start in the championship we have a good squad for a change, big Ronan back in nets looking sharp and fit to puck the ball a 100 yards helps big time. We beat Ballygalget yesterday by 5 it should have been a good few more. Its good to have matches back on again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 04, 2009, 01:05:20 PM
A real shame if the rumours you are hearing are true.
SA could be a bit of a force with the two herrons, Stewart, the 2 McGoats and a few others. Would love to see Stewart pitted against division one defenders...he's a class above anything in division 2 are far as I can see. Same goes for Micko in division 3 I am sure.
SWA with the Cloney connection, a couple of the Randalstown players (and Magill but believe he is still stateside), Creggan etc could run Glenariffe close.

JamesH - from an outside perspective I think that is a very wise move re Big Ronan. One of the major downfalls in the AI Semi final v De La Salle was the lack of distance and inaccuracy that were coming from the puck outs against the wind (and generally). I was at it and you guys were playing into their hands.

Agree about matches...was starting to forget there for a while there that they are what its all about.
Think God has been on our side though as he appears to have moved the sh1te weather to the last few weeks and is saving some sun for when the Antrim leagues finish in Sept/Oct/Nov. There must be someone having a word with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 04, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
I'm not worried that the minor county manager didnt use him, management can make their own decisions, im not in the position to tell anyone how to run a team nor who should be playing on it.
I was just stating a fact that even if such a rule did exist, that is wasn't through any doing of the young Cushendall player that the rule was broke nor was it through his own personal choice to play for the u21's and not the minors.  

on another note............

Glensman - Cushendall fesitval is on this weekend also, altho the games are early enough to miss any disruptions which may be caused by the festival..i.e parts of the town being closed to traffic+ there shouldnt be any hassle at the pitch either as all thier functions + activies were held last weekend and throughout this incoming week and i suppose with the teams in which are involved in the early fixtures there is really no other nuetral venue to hold them!

Any predictions for the games on sunday???  good to see competition for places on the Cushendall team, maintains a good attitude with the players, could be hard to predict a starting team for Sunday!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 04, 2009, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 03, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
Any word on the rumours that two of the divisional teams can't field this weekend. We play SA it should have been a tricky match if the MC Goats and the Herrons were playing. Our lads have started to show some form, some lads AD, Monty, Declan and Elliott back plus some of the young lads Paddy Mc Naughton ans Sean Birt have been really impressive lately. Both wiil start in the championship we have a good squad for a change, big Ronan back in nets looking sharp and fit to puck the ball a 100 yards helps big time. We beat Ballygalget yesterday by 5 it should have been a good few more. Its good to have matches back on again.

the south antrim team will field on sunday, the make up of the team is still up in the air but I'm conviced a decent team will play on sunday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 04, 2009, 11:11:43 PM
MR i heard today that they would def field which is good news. Will the Galls men be involved and if so who? On paper they should be the best divisional team, although NA team is putting in quite a effort, much to the annoyance of the NA county Del and Town Sec and team manager. It was a good idea before they drew Ballycastle. I still think the castle will win by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 05, 2009, 12:07:35 AM
any team which has the pick of the best players from clubs within one area will field decent teams, Cushendall and Ballycastle will both have a tough game tis weekend.

Apparently there is another fixture change and the North Antrim v Ballycastle game is in Cushendall on Saturday evening whilst all other fixtures remain the same! (according to the cdall website)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 05, 2009, 12:33:21 PM
herrons mc gourtys stewart and a few other decent hurlers will be involved this sunday. Sarsfields and Tir Na Og play this weekend so that rules them out of the teams that they could have played for (SA and SW)

i believe this team could make a fist of it had they been doing a few training sessions/games in early March. what you will have is players with little passion as they don't really know each other.

if Cushendall come out and play strong at the start then they may win handy. should the Belfast team get a bit of momentum then it may be tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 05, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Panel for SA named on the Antrim website. Some good hurlers in there:
Cormac Mc Kenna
Kieran Mc Gourty
Daniel  Mc Greevy
Ciaran O Carroll
Kieran Killyleagh
Chris Turley
C J Mc Gourty
Brendan Herron
Paul Donnelly
Sean O Hara
Michael Herron
Anton Mc Caffrey
Christy Tumulty
Karl Stewart
Kevin Grieve
Niall Peoples   
Dee Bannon
Declan Mc Larnon
Paddy Crossan
Thomas Maguire
Aodhan Gallagher
Chris Mc Cartney
Sean Mc Areavey

Any notable absences...what about Philly Maguire from St Theresas? He was on the county senior panel last year.

Cloughmills play Friday night I see and I'd say they might have a couple on the NA side for Saturday night. Not giving them much of a chance to prepare...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 05, 2009, 05:19:48 PM
Posted on the NA site.

The North Antrim Panel
for the
Senior Hurling Championship 2009.

NIALL CAMPBELL                                              EMMETTS
RORY MC QUILLAN
EOIN MC QUILLAN
NIALL MC AULEY
AARON SMILLIE                                               CLOUGHMILLS
LIAM KEARNS
CONOR LAVERTY
JAMES DOCHERTY
JOHN DILLON                                                   ARMOY
LIAM DILLON
SEAMUS BAILEY
MICHAEL ABHRAM                                         GLENARM
BLAIN MC DERMOTT
PADRAIG MC DERMOTT
BRENDAN MC DERMOTT
KIERAN CAMPBELL
BARRY HAMILL
DARREN  HAMILL
CHRIS MATHEWS
MARTIN MC AULEY                                       CAREY
NATHANIEL HUNTER
FINTAN MC CARRY
COLM MC BRIDE
CATHAL MC AULEY
BRIAN O NIELL                                            GLENRAVEL
SHANE WOULAHAN
KIERAN MC KEOWN
NIEL MC CANN
DAMIEN O HAGAN
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 05, 2009, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 03, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
Any word on the rumours that two of the divisional teams can't field this weekend. We play SA it should have been a tricky match if the MC Goats and the Herrons were playing. Our lads have started to show some form, some lads AD, Monty, Declan and Elliott back plus some of the young lads Paddy Mc Naughton ans Sean Birt have been really impressive lately. Both wiil start in the championship we have a good squad for a change, big Ronan back in nets looking sharp and fit to puck the ball a 100 yards helps big time. We beat Ballygalget yesterday by 5 it should have been a good few more. Its good to have matches back on again.

Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2009, 11:45:05 AM
I think anybody who knows the local game knows that there is nothing to be taken from yesterdays match. Cushendall go out of their way at this time of year to make everyone think all is not rosy in the garden (retirements/fall outs/drink/bad attitudes etc etc) and back this up with poor league performances. Then wham bam championship comes along and they are a tight as ever with the full compliment pushing for places. Monty(s) will be there, AD will be there, Kevin Elliott will be there...even big Jack will be there when we get to the business end. Anyone who thinks different is a fool

Where do I collect my prize?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 05, 2009, 09:47:10 PM
Catch your self on Skull.

This has worked in other Counties so lets give it a try.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 05, 2009, 10:36:23 PM
 ??? ??? sorry?...me thinks you have got the wrong end of the stick G2 and missed my point completely, which was about the fact that all of a sudden the retired dall players have came out to give it another go.

You and many seem to forget that I suggested divisional teams before everyone else  :).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 02:12:01 PM
Ballycastle to win after a sticky first half, can see them winning handy enough at the finish.

Loughgiel to beat st johns as half their team is away on a stag party apparently.

Cushendall to beat the SA select handy enough ( such a wasted opportunity for SA )

Glenariffe to win but not by a massive margin against the SW select
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 06, 2009, 02:45:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 05, 2009, 10:36:23 PM
??? ??? sorry?...me thinks you have got the wrong end of the stick G2 and missed my point completely, which was about the fact that all of a sudden the retired dall players have came out to give it another go.


Don't think big jackie is back as he was umpiring during the reserve game on sunday and didn't strip out for their seniors after it unless he was hiding in the dugout but its hard for a man that size to hide anywhere.

Monty did make an appearance late on but I wonder if JamesH can tell me who the heavy set lad who started fullforward was? Can't say I know him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:07:51 PM
Red Micro Helmet? Brick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2009, 03:08:49 PM
Several different ones from the dall who should know (better) were reporting earlier in the season that these boys had hung up the boots with the only exception being monty who it was mentioned would see what he was like come summertime. Thats why I made my initial comments back at the start of may.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:22:06 PM
Skull I would say there is very little chance of any of them having pulled the pin to be honest. Are the reports correct I heard about them having a certain someone up to speak to the squad in the last couple of weeks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Of course there was no chance NAG. My origional comment was indeed laughing at those who would think that people could be convinced that they had. No odds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 06, 2009, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:07:51 PM
Red Micro Helmet? Brick?

red helmet for sure.

Has he a real name?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2009, 03:35:42 PM
McCarthy for starters

Micheal is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 06, 2009, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:22:06 PM
Skull I would say there is very little chance of any of them having pulled the pin to be honest. Are the reports correct I heard about them having a certain someone up to speak to the squad in the last couple of weeks?
A Tyrone footballer manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:41:13 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 06, 2009, 03:45:03 PM
aye but NAG he was up as part of the cushendall festival to talk to an audience.anybody could have went to it-including aload of bodies looking tips
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2009, 03:46:31 PM
I wasnt saying anything bad I was merely asking the question Two Hands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 06, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
player in full forward was sean birt, a minor last year, hurled very well for CPC when they won the All Ireland College's B earlier this year,

michael 'brick' mccarthy was corner forward

Jackie is done, honestly, Elliott also hasnt been out and won't be, Brian D out for the season, and Declan McK not yet back in training, as he cant train yet.

Thats all folks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 07, 2009, 02:20:30 PM
Jackie was a 10 min impact sub so no real loss, Elliot will be missed, the other two should  be capable of being replaced. Cushendall stil in the box seat this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2009, 02:28:53 PM
Yeah they have a great squad at the moment which they havent had before so they should be able to sustain a back to back challenge.

Just a matter of hunger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 07, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
the Belfast select is playing Cushendall at 6.00 now. was originally at 7.30pm.

will the SW team play their match?

should be some chip eaters in Loughgiel on sunday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 08, 2009, 09:38:04 PM
Anyone know the result of the Ballycastle game?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 08, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Senior Hurling Championship
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
N. Antrim    0-8   3-15   Ballycastle    Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 08, 2009, 11:08:12 PM
First 20 mins of the match tonite was nip and tuck but once Ballycastle got the first goal and went in 6 points up at the break i dont think there was any danger of an upset. North Antrim had a good number of wides in the 1st half which didnt help but thought they were a bit toothless up front. There was no disgrace in their performance and i hope they stick with the concept in years to come as it can only benefit the players in the amalgamated teams and the more competition in the championship the better.

Now the real test comes for Ballycastle against Dunloy. They just had to get over tonite and hopefully the confidence levels are higher after it and they dont let Dunloy race in to an early lead like last year. Could be a year or two too soon for them though but heres hoping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
any score on the Johnnies game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 09, 2009, 02:57:04 PM
Glenariffe v S Antrim match postponed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2009, 03:02:20 PM
   
Loughgiel  0-16 0-8 St. Johns  Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 09, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
Winker got a straight red in first half

Very out of character
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 09, 2009, 04:51:27 PM
St Johns had two men sent off and five players booked. Garret Duffy's refereeing led to most of the problems for both sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 09, 2009, 08:56:23 PM
Just back from the match. competitive enough early on. the the dall scored goals at times when the Belfast team were on top. Cushendall didn't score for first ten minutes of second half but Jims team could get the scores.

the Lamhs lads all played well and and Killer and McGourty hurled well with Stewarty. Cushendall played below par.

if the Belfast team could fill some positions on that team with strength and skill then it would have been tighter. some of the belfast lads didn't have the strength in the tackle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 10, 2009, 10:18:01 AM
All the games went as expected, and the two strongest divisional teams out at the first stage.  But with a bit more training and a few years competing they should be a alot more competitive

Any reports on the games, who got the line for the johnnies, what did winker do,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
Aye Max, you're right, hopefully the divisional teams will be able to build on this in the incoming years. The South Antrim select definitely have potential but were let down by a lack of technical skill, ie clean striking the ball. They certainly had as much of the ball as Cushendall at times, but were unable to press their advantage at times with many dropped short shots on goal and wides. Cushendall were rarely troubled but might have been if they hadn't found the net at crucial times after some poor defending. Big Gangles McKenna in nets' poc outs were drastically short and erratic, this caused the select boys a lot of problems from the off, although their half back line did fairly well. Kieran McGourty was my pick of the South Antrim men, with a great performance only slightly marred by his lack of length/clean striking on his clearances. One other very noticeable thing was the lack of intensity in the challenge from most of the county boys involved on the select team. I can think of one occasion in the second half where neal mcmanus was kind of going off the station over a sideline ball, tramping and pushing killer or one of the half backs. If it had been against a north antrim club team, mcmanus would have got a slap for what he was doing, whereas Kieran McGourty went over and told Neal to calm down. You wouldnt get that in every game, so i guess it shows how well these boys get on when away with the county, a lot of mutual respect there.

Barry McFall got a straight red Max, for hitting Odhran McFadden with the heel of the stick near the end of the 2nd half. It was an identical challenge to Winker's, straight in front of the referee, retaliating for something minor, a push/or something said. The Johnnies keeper (not sure of his name) got the line for two yellows, both appeared to be for dissent, as Garret Duffy consulted the umpires on both occasions, nothing had occurred that i could see, and the play wasnt even in that area for the second one. He must have been mouthing off.
Winker had started well, caught a lovely ball and stuck it over the bar. He had started in corner forward but hadnt seen any ball, so was moved out to right half and immediately had an impact on the game. He caught a second ball and was fouled. Then he caught a third ball, soloed through the Johnnies defence where Paddy Nugent met him with a good shoulder, upending him. Johnnies No. 5 was chasing him and he fell on top of Winker. Winker got up and Johnnies No. 9 came running in full pelt to try to do him, and Winker sidestepped him, Garret Duffy then did him for holding on to the ball too long. Paddy Nugent then came up behind him and sort of pushed him, and/or maybe said something to him, Winker turned around and drove him with the heel of the stick in front of the ref. Ref no option, straight red. Made it very hard for the Loughgiel team after that to settle.

On another note, anyone hear a prominent North Antrim referee might be looking at a 48 week suspension for perjuring himself in a recent Hearing at Casement. I wonder did headquarters know what sort of boy they had representing them during the minor match in Croke yesterday....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 12:35:22 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 10, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
Aye Max, you're right, hopefully the divisional teams will be able to build on this in the incoming years. The South Antrim select definitely have potential but were let down by a lack of technical skill, ie clean striking the ball. They certainly had as much of the ball as Cushendall at times, but were unable to press their advantage at times with many dropped short shots on goal and wides. Cushendall were rarely troubled but might have been if they hadn't found the net at crucial times after some poor defending. Big Gangles McKenna in nets' poc outs were drastically short and erratic, this caused the select boys a lot of problems from the off, although their half back line did fairly well. Kieran McGourty was my pick of the South Antrim men, with a great performance only slightly marred by his lack of length/clean striking on his clearances. One other very noticeable thing was the lack of intensity in the challenge from most of the county boys involved on the select team. I can think of one occasion in the second half where neal mcmanus was kind of going off the station over a sideline ball, tramping and pushing killer or one of the half backs. If it had been against a north antrim club team, mcmanus would have got a slap for what he was doing, whereas Kieran McGourty went over and told Neal to calm down. You wouldnt get that in every game, so i guess it shows how well these boys get on when away with the county, a lot of mutual respect there.

Barry McFall got a straight red Max, for hitting Odhran McFadden with the heel of the stick near the end of the 2nd half. It was an identical challenge to Winker's, straight in front of the referee, retaliating for something minor, a push/or something said. The Johnnies keeper (not sure of his name) got the line for two yellows, both appeared to be for dissent, as Garret Duffy consulted the umpires on both occasions, nothing had occurred that i could see, and the play wasnt even in that area for the second one. He must have been mouthing off.
Winker had started well, caught a lovely ball and stuck it over the bar. He had started in corner forward but hadnt seen any ball, so was moved out to right half and immediately had an impact on the game. He caught a second ball and was fouled. Then he caught a third ball, soloed through the Johnnies defence where Paddy Nugent met him with a good shoulder, upending him. Johnnies No. 5 was chasing him and he fell on top of Winker. Winker got up and Johnnies No. 9 came running in full pelt to try to do him, and Winker sidestepped him, Garret Duffy then did him for holding on to the ball too long. Paddy Nugent then came up behind him and sort of pushed him, and/or maybe said something to him, Winker turned around and drove him with the heel of the stick in front of the ref. Ref no option, straight red. Made it very hard for the Loughgiel team after that to settle.

On another note, anyone hear a prominent North Antrim referee might be looking at a 48 week suspension for perjuring himself in a recent Hearing at Casement. I wonder did headquarters know what sort of boy they had representing them during the minor match in Croke yesterday....

Very accurate account of both games and major incidents.  Loughgiel looked rusty and will get a tough game against Rossa who won't fear anything they seen yesterday.  South Antrim definately look like a team with potential.  The Cushendall game seemed to lack any atmosphere at all for a championship game.

Anyone know when / where the next games are?

With regards the refereeing incident?  Not heard of this care to shed more light?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 02:04:01 PM
I'd agree with you about Rossa not being too worried about Loughgiel, was talking to Rossa corner back at the game and he told me they are going well, good numbers at training, got Paul Close back and hope to have Jim Connolly there or there abouts (achilles), either in full forward, or wing half. I think the games are on this weekend, someone thought possibly Casement and a North Antrim venue, although not too sure.

With regards to the referee incident, i had heard from different people from two different clubs yesterday that North Antrim's test case which they brought against Loughgiel's Paul Gillan following the Feis Final was thrown out after a Hearing meeting in Casement on Friday night. There were various reasons why the case was dropped, the main reason i hear was that a prominent referee and member of N Antrim CCC who brought the case, told the Hearing committee that he had contacted the referee for clarification, based on the use of video evidence. The referee was subsequently phoned during the Hearing to check the veracity of this statement, and it turned out to be false, the referee had never been contacted ( which was supposed to have happened as per the official guide). The case got thrown out and then the very next day, the match referee was then contacted by the N Antrim CCC representative (high profile referee) and asked if he would change his story! The Feis referee refused, saying he wouldnt be changing his story for anybody as it was the truth. It would appear that according to the official guide, if someone deliberatley misleads (lies to) a Hearings Committe, it is an automatic 48 week ban with no right to appeal....
That's how the Derry footballer was suspended recently for the jawbreaking incident, not for breaking the jaw, but for getting caught out on a lie. How embarrassing will it be for North Antrim Board, and for refereeing in general if one of their "up and coming" leading lights is about to be banned for a year, after being economical with the truth to put it mildly and then trying to pressurise another referee into changing his story so he himself can avoid justifiable punishment....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 10, 2009, 02:04:01 PM
I'd agree with you about Rossa not being too worried about Loughgiel, was talking to Rossa corner back at the game and he told me they are going well, good numbers at training, got Paul Close back and hope to have Jim Connolly there or there abouts (achilles), either in full forward, or wing half. I think the games are on this weekend, someone thought possibly Casement and a North Antrim venue, although not too sure.

With regards to the referee incident, i had heard from different people from two different clubs yesterday that North Antrim's test case which they brought against Loughgiel's Paul Gillan following the Feis Final was thrown out after a Hearing meeting in Casement on Friday night. There were various reasons why the case was dropped, the main reason i hear was that a prominent referee and member of N Antrim CCC who brought the case, told the Hearing committee that he had contacted the referee for clarification, based on the use of video evidence. The referee was subsequently phoned during the Hearing to check the veracity of this statement, and it turned out to be false, the referee had never been contacted ( which was supposed to have happened as per the official guide). The case got thrown out and then the very next day, the match referee was then contacted by the N Antrim CCC representative (high profile referee) and asked if he would change his story! The Feis referee refused, saying he wouldnt be changing his story for anybody as it was the truth. It would appear that according to the official guide, if someone deliberatley misleads (lies to) a Hearings Committe, it is an automatic 48 week ban with no right to appeal....
That's how the Derry footballer was suspended recently for the jawbreaking incident, not for breaking the jaw, but for getting caught out on a lie. How embarrassing will it be for North Antrim Board, and for refereeing in general if one of their "up and coming" leading lights is about to be banned for a year, after being economical with the truth to put it mildly and then trying to pressurise another referee into changing his story so he himself can avoid justifiable punishment....

Hard to assess Loughgiels performance as they played majority of the game with 14 men.  I know St Johns later had 2 men sent off but I think the game was put to bed by the time they were dismissed.  Had St Johns a little more discipline in the tackle they could of really pushed Loughgiel.  They gave away 4/5 easy frees when the game was in the balance as well as missing a lot of chances. Colm Mc Fall took some great scores for them though.

I feel Ballycastle could give Dunloy real problems and should not be written of, they have a strong county contingent and have heard they are putting in a lot of effort.

Hadn't heard about this, makes for interesting reading. So Paul Gillan was suspended using video evidence which had apparently been given the OK by the referee on the day when in fact he had given no such authority....is that right?  Looks like someone has been caught out badly telling porkies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 03:08:37 PM
yes gael, more or less right. They didn't consult with the referee, just decided to have a video investigation into the match without talking to him. Dangerous precedent to start, after all what's to stop any club official from wanting an investigation launched when it suits them. The other thing was, i was at the feis final and have to say the incident concerned was no more vicious or dangerous than any two minutes before the throw-in in any munster or leinster championship match. Pushing/shoving use of the heel of the stick, not excusing it, but i didnt see or hear of anyone hurt as a result of any of the challenges in that game. Seem to remember a few players on the ground after that, but they were back up and played out the rest of the game. I think some person or persons in North Antrim might have gotten a bit over-zealous in their decision and it has now back-fired. Also could it be possible that a shadowy figure prepared the snowballs so that our referee friend could fire them? If so, the referee in question is now up the creek so to speak, while the brains of the operation sits back watching one of his lieutenants take the fall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Well if that was the case then it would of opened a serious can of worms as most teams now use video analysis and if this case had of stuck then we could of been looking at incidents every week.

Be interesting to see what comes out of it if the rumours are true.  This is the first I had heard of it although I was aware Paul Gillans suspension was lifted.  I was at the game myself and the scuffle which took place seemed to be handbags for Lavertys sending but i'm not sure which particular incident Gillan was suspended for.  Wasn't really a dirty game.

If it was the case that he was acting on someone else's behalf then im sure theres a few boys sweating to see if he takes it on the chin or takes a few with him!  Im sure Loughgiel officials aren't very impressed and rightly so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Well if that was the case then it would of opened a serious can of worms as most teams now use video analysis and if this case had of stuck then we could of been looking at incidents every week.

Be interesting to see what comes out of it if the rumours are true.  This is the first I had heard of it although I was aware Paul Gillans suspension was lifted.  I was at the game myself and the scuffle which took place seemed to be handbags for Lavertys sending but i'm not sure which particular incident Gillan was suspended for.  Wasn't really a dirty game.

If it was the case that he was acting on someone else's behalf then im sure theres a few boys sweating to see if he takes it on the chin or takes a few with him!  Im sure Loughgiel officials aren't very impressed and rightly so

Theres a vast difference in two players niggling at each other shoulder to shoulder with minimal movement of the stick (if you get what I mean :-\) and  I have no real problem with that but one player running towards another player and driving the stick into his mindrift with full intent and force . Skinners sending off was warranted and was in full glare of the referee who was 10 yards away looking straight at him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 03:32:40 PM

Theres a vast difference in two players niggling at each other shoulder to shoulder with minimal movement of the stick (if you get what I mean :-\) and  I have no real problem with that but one player running towards another player and driving the stick into his mindrift with full intent and force . Skinners sending off was warranted and was in full glare of the referee who was 10 yards away looking straight at him.

i have to agree with you skull, it can be clearly seen on the video. i wasnt at the match but only saw it recently via the Good auld world wide web, and imo both players should have been sent off / suspended. 

are you saying gael, if he had of broken the other players ribs, only then he should have been sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 03:53:31 PM
I agree with you to an extent skull, which is why he was sent off, and why he served 4 weeks. But i can think of James McKeague hitting Ding with the heel of the stick in the midriff off the ball in the leadup to that incident, and then hitting skinner in the back with the heel of the stick, directly after that incident, and i can also think of cathair cunning hitting ding with the heel of the stick in the back also in that incident, and also since we're at it, Rab being the third man in, and pulling Skinner by the helmet, swinging him around by the faceguard so violently he actually pulled the plastic lug off the helmet! If we're going to look at an incident, let's look at it all, and not be too selective.
I think Skinner deserved to go, but i can't see how they could pick only one Loughgiel man out of that incident and not see any other infringements. It obviously went to the County Hearings Committe, they watched it and came to the same conclusion as most who were at that match, ie that it wasn't that serious an incident, and didn't bear further investigation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 10, 2009, 03:53:31 PM
I agree with you to an extent skull, which is why he was sent off, and why he served 4 weeks. But i can think of James McKeague hitting Ding with the heel of the stick in the midriff off the ball in the leadup to that incident, and then hitting skinner in the back with the heel of the stick, directly after that incident, and i can also think of cathair cunning hitting ding with the heel of the stick in the back also in that incident, and also since we're at it, Rab being the third man in, and pulling Skinner by the helmet, swinging him around by the faceguard so violently he actually pulled the plastic lug off the helmet! If we're going to look at an incident, let's look at it all, and not be too selective.
I think Skinner deserved to go, but i can't see how they could pick only one Loughgiel man out of that incident and not see any other infringements. It obviously went to the County Hearings Committe, they watched it and came to the same conclusion as most who were at that match, ie that it wasn't that serious an incident, and didn't bear further investigation.

;D  ;D  ;D  - i must have watched a different video.   ::)  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
Yes Nemo, sounds like You were watching the video North Antrim tried to suspend Ding with too. Let me suggest you keep an eye out for the video taken from the same side of the pitch as the incident, taken by Glenarm club. Much more accurate, rather than Jamie Quinn's from the far side of the field, which i believe is the one which North Antrim used as evidence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Well if that was the case then it would of opened a serious can of worms as most teams now use video analysis and if this case had of stuck then we could of been looking at incidents every week.

Be interesting to see what comes out of it if the rumours are true.  This is the first I had heard of it although I was aware Paul Gillans suspension was lifted.  I was at the game myself and the scuffle which took place seemed to be handbags for Lavertys sending but i'm not sure which particular incident Gillan was suspended for.  Wasn't really a dirty game.

If it was the case that he was acting on someone else's behalf then im sure theres a few boys sweating to see if he takes it on the chin or takes a few with him!  Im sure Loughgiel officials aren't very impressed and rightly so

Theres a vast difference in two players niggling at each other shoulder to shoulder with minimal movement of the stick (if you get what I mean :-\) and  I have no real problem with that but one player running towards another player and driving the stick into his mindrift with full intent and force . Skinners sending off was warranted and was in full glare of the referee who was 10 yards away looking straight at him.

My post maybe wasn't the clearest there. Agree Laverty should of been sent of but think if you send Gillan of for what he done then there would of been a further 3 Dunloy and couple more Loughgiel dismissals if video to be used from now on.  Wouldnt even of been mentioned had it happened in Munster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 04:08:49 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 10, 2009, 04:02:24 PM
Yes Nemo, sounds like You were watching the video North Antrim tried to suspend Ding with too. Let me suggest you keep an eye out for the video taken from the same side of the pitch as the incident, taken by Glenarm club. Much more accurate, rather than Jamie Quinn's from the far side of the field, which i believe is the one which North Antrim used as evidence.

nope, i think its the glenarm one i watched, havent seen the north antrim one, whichever one is on the web and it doesnt sound much like you described
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 03:25:17 PM
Well if that was the case then it would of opened a serious can of worms as most teams now use video analysis and if this case had of stuck then we could of been looking at incidents every week.

Be interesting to see what comes out of it if the rumours are true.  This is the first I had heard of it although I was aware Paul Gillans suspension was lifted.  I was at the game myself and the scuffle which took place seemed to be handbags for Lavertys sending but i'm not sure which particular incident Gillan was suspended for.  Wasn't really a dirty game.

If it was the case that he was acting on someone else's behalf then im sure theres a few boys sweating to see if he takes it on the chin or takes a few with him!  Im sure Loughgiel officials aren't very impressed and rightly so

Theres a vast difference in two players niggling at each other shoulder to shoulder with minimal movement of the stick (if you get what I mean :-\) and  I have no real problem with that but one player running towards another player and driving the stick into his mindrift with full intent and force . Skinners sending off was warranted and was in full glare of the referee who was 10 yards away looking straight at him.

My post maybe wasn't the clearest there. Agree Laverty should of been sent of but think if you send Gillan of for what he done then there would of been a further 3 Dunloy and couple more Loughgiel dismissals if video to be used from now on.  Wouldnt even of been mentioned had it happened in Munster.

didnt they do the same thing  ???  ???

anyway, i will stay out of it as i can see the rose tinted glasses are on both of yous. also it has little to do with me or less do i care to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
Where is this web video? Do you have a link?

I'm still trying to go by memory which may have been hampered by the shandies I had after the game!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 04:13:32 PM
back to the matches at the weekend

paid £15 into three matches and feel like i was robbed, i know some teams where understrentgh and plenty of excuses, but the standard of hurling was awful to say the least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: Nemo on August 10, 2009, 04:13:32 PM
back to the matches at the weekend

paid £15 into three matches and feel like i was robbed, i know some teams where understrentgh and plenty of excuses, but the standard of hurling was awful to say the least.

Agreed.

Lack of atmosphere at them all was dissapointing,  I understand there were changes to fixture schedules but a double header would maybe of generated bigger crowds and more of an atmosphere.  Im sure it will pick up this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 10, 2009, 04:17:57 PM
Just to clarify this, the ref sent skinner to the line during the game for his part in the melee.

Someone in admistrative duties wanted a bit more blood for the whole melee and was using video evidence to get more players suspended (ding Gillan?) but didn't follow correct procedure by informing/contacting the match referee of his intentions and was caught out when the full county disciplinary meeting was held?

Any links to the Video?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
After a dirty challenge with real intent to mame someone, there will always be a bit of a melee, and as long as nothing too treacherous happens then in that melee then to me it's part of the game. The main aggressor has to stood up to. But yes I agree that if the melee decends into similar levels of violence as the first challange then those involved should be dealt with as well. I also thought Cathair was lucky not to be carded for his involvement.

Tried to go looking for that video online but no joy.............. but I found this clinker from 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg (http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg)

Check out 2:37 onwards.  :)

For 10 points name the Dall number 5 and the Dunloy number 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 10, 2009, 04:54:01 PM
Mad...they would be right & friendly too. I dont think video evidence would have got him off that though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 10, 2009, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
After a dirty challenge with real intent to mame someone, there will always be a bit of a melee, and as long as nothing too treacherous happens then in that melee then to me it's part of the game. The main aggressor has to stood up to. But yes I agree that if the melee decends into similar levels of violence as the first challange then those involved should be dealt with as well. I also thought Cathair was lucky not to be carded for his involvement.

Tried to go looking for that video online but no joy.............. but I found this clinker from 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg (http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg)

Check out 2:37 onwards.  :)

For 10 points name the Dall number 5 and the Dunloy number 12

Brilliant video!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 05:33:13 PM
I have to agree with you two hands! Great video spot, skull. Good way to while away a few hours at work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 05:37:57 PM
Obviously a thin line between love and hate  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 10, 2009, 05:42:41 PM
Anailis you seem to well informed for a Shamrocks man!!! I would be careful though, i think the Hounds are now on your scent.. making those statements, must check back to see if you have used the word allegedly, hope you have! Joe Brolley would love to get his pearly whites into a good liable case.

MR took great heart from last night, thought the boys with their limited prep did themselves proud, lets hope next year will turn the tide. Don,t want a slanging match MR, just want city hurling back on its feet. Anailis sounds as though he,s up for it in more than one sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 10, 2009, 06:08:38 PM
Well informed for a Shamrocks man, Queenie? Are you insinuating that Shamrocks men aren't normally well informed!! Or are you assuming that to be so well informed means i must be a bodie?  ;)
Well come to think of it you might have a point there! Anyway next round will soon roll around again, and i wonder what we'll be talking about this time next Monday!
Don't see Ballycastle being strong enough to shock Dunloy, but some might look be looking for an upset with Rossa v Loughgiel.
They've taken a few scalps already, beating Loughgiel comfortably at the start of the year in the Ulster League, and then Dunloy recently, also in the Ulster League.
They have the pedigree, winning a championship ( and incidentally beating Loughgiel in the process) from a lower division.
They'll give Loughgiel their fair share of it, could be an interesting game, if not one for the purists.
But then again where are the games for the purists in Antrim these days....
Certainly not up to the standard of the feis in 1984.
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 10, 2009, 06:49:17 PM
Queenie they had zero prep. i was at all the training sessions. they put in a better performance than the North Antrim lads who'd 2/3 games played and some training sessions with 20 plus players!!!

6 positions last night would have made a difference. Micko for me needed to be on the edge of the square, but with lack of talent in others areas he was needed to sit in front of the half backs and sweep. the defence was superb with maybe a lack of long clearances the main problem.

up front we lacked the cutting edge. the goal getters that Cushendall had we didn't. like i said Micko and Karl in full forward line could have done damage.

worked out we had CJ, Karl, two McGourts, Sean O'Hara, Mackers and young Boogaloo playing last night. thats 7 players who are playing their club championships this weekend!!! but all have reported to be well. and not carrying any injuries of note.

are the senior championships this weekend also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 10, 2009, 09:22:05 PM
he turned up for the team at the training sessions and was given 7 minutes near the end last night. 

should one of the Belfast teams win the interm. championship then they will not be able to compete next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on August 10, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
Anyone bold enough to come out with their predictions yet. I'll go for Cushendall +12, Rossa +1/2, Dunloy 6+, Glenariffe 7+. Is Kevin McGourty hurling for St Gall's at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: viking48 on August 10, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
can anyone confirm that the cushendall and Loughgiel matches will be a double header in casement?

cushendall - 16+

ballycastle dunloy - draw

Loughgiel- +2

glenarriffe - +5

However a little birde told me that the county are looking to get championship games called off this weekend to allow the county under 21s the seven day rule before they play kilkenny in the all ireland semi  :-\ anyone hear anything?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on August 10, 2009, 11:17:33 PM
Gort Na Mona  Ruairi Og  Casement Park 15/08/2009 17:30   
Rossa  Loughgiel  Casement Park 15/08/2009 19:00
Thats from County website, not many spaces available in the calender if their put off this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2009, 08:39:22 AM
Viking48 - I would think it very unlikely that the clubs would allow their games to be postponed under any circumstances.

Back to the suspension issues, I think anyone trying to defend someone striking with the hurl and getting the ban halved should take up a different sport. It was clear as day that it was a cowardly action against someone with their back turned and was not the sort of niggling that goes on in Munster. I dont think breaking a hurl over someones back is the action of someone who anyone should be defending esp given this persons track record when it comes to this sort of thing.

As for the other player getting off on a technicality he also plays on the edge and most of the time over it so its only a matter of time before he is back before the committee.

I would say that it is very unlikely that the story put up ealier would be correct when you look through the rules and regulations governing these meetings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on August 11, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Posted by: hardstation 
Insert Quote
How'd Bap play? Would Stevie not be worth a shout too?
No Andy McClean?

If you are on about Stevie O'Hara bap's bro he plays for St Teresas and he ain't the best.
Andy McClean hasn't played hurling for St Galls since the last championship game against the shamrocks, come to think of it he has probably only played about 6 or so games for us over the past 2/3 years mostly championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 11, 2009, 08:39:22 AM
Viking48 - I would think it very unlikely that the clubs would allow their games to be postponed under any circumstances.

Back to the suspension issues, I think anyone trying to defend someone striking with the hurl and getting the ban halved should take up a different sport. It was clear as day that it was a cowardly action against someone with their back turned and was not the sort of niggling that goes on in Munster. I dont think breaking a hurl over someones back is the action of someone who anyone should be defending esp given this persons track record when it comes to this sort of thing.

As for the other player getting off on a technicality he also plays on the edge and most of the time over it so its only a matter of time before he is back before the committee.

I would say that it is very unlikely that the story put up ealier would be correct when you look through the rules and regulations governing these meetings.

I'm inclined to agree with you NAG, striking someone with their back turned is a cowardly action, which is why i view what the Dunloy number 5 did as extremely cowardly. This business of striking with the heel when people's back is turned seems to be the new thing in North Antrim these days. Perhaps the players involved in it think that it will escape the referee's notice, having less visual impact than a full swing of the stick. Either way, if you get a chance take a look at the incident in either the Feis Committee video, or the Glenarm club video, and you will see what i mean.

Based on what youre saying NAG, the County Hearings Committe ruled wrong on both occasions then. Why do you think this happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 11, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
i agree that a small dig in the back is a very cowardly act, but wether it warrants a suspension im not sure, but when two players react like i saw in the video, one hitting with force enough to break his stick then that does warrant a suspension.

i would prefer none of this went on at all, but i also wish supporters and club officials would take responsility for the actions of their players when it comes to incidents like this instead of blaming everyone else around them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: Nemo on August 11, 2009, 09:37:11 AM
i agree that a small dig in the back is a very cowardly act, but wether it warrants a suspension im not sure, but when two players react like i saw in the video, one hitting with force enough to break his stick then that does warrant a suspension.

i would prefer none of this went on at all, but i also wish supporters and club officials would take responsility for the actions of their players when it comes to incidents like this instead of blaming everyone else around them.

I agree with you Nemo. As someone from Loughgiel told me, they probably had no intention of appealing the Skinner incident until the North Antrim video case brought it all up again. Since he was mentioned within that video evidence, his case was suddenly relevant. But don't you agree that when championship fever comes around every year, clubs lose their perspective on what is morally right and wrong, and look to get their strongest team out, come what may.

From a personal point of view, i think that if clubs didn't appeal suspensions then eventually word would get back to the players not to be rash on the field.
That high-mindedness though is tempered by the fact that referees can make mistakes, and that not everyone thinks the games should be played within the rules at all times.
Human nature makes certain people react more than others, in an ideal world no one would hit dirty, and no one would react, then referees would have a great job!
We all can dream. (Sounds a bit boring though....)
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2009, 09:58:27 AM
anailis

I have watched the video of the game and I have to say the rose tinted glasses must be on, the dunloy number 5 did butt using the hurl. However to try and use that as an excuse for what followed is weak in any language. Now dont get me wrong Im not saying that he was correct to do it in anyway and if the ref had seen it then it should have been a yellow card.

But for the opposing player to wait to he had his back turned and then actually hit him that hard from behind that he broke his own hurl then I believe the suspension should have stood.

What I am saying is that if they used the video to suspend him then it should have stood on the second one I am not sure as to what the player was suspended for in the incident so I am unable to say of they were right to suspend him or subsequently let him off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 11, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
I think you are all missing the point - the hearings committee threw out Paul Gillans case as proper procedure was not followed. And in a more serious development someone who is supposed to be neutral and fair when representing North Antrim deliberately tried to mislead the hearings committee - this is something that should not be tolerated - he is supposed to be a top ref and administrator, looks like his career may be put on hold for a while.
Secondly, bringing video evidence into local games is a dangerous development - how many matches could we not pick something up - does that mean all games should be recorded and watched closely afterwards - to me if this happens then the great sport of hurling will become less attractive for our young men as they will go to other sports.
Who decided to use the evidence in North Antrim? and for what reason? - Skinner was sent off by the ref and obviously noted in his report.  Should this not have been enough evidence for them?  Or was it that the fat controller was trying to look after his own club interests? - it wouldn't surprise me as his record of being fair and neutral isn't that great. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 11, 2009, 11:02:16 AM
not another bodie crying persecution
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: wino on August 11, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
I think you are all missing the point - the hearings committee threw out Paul Gillans case as proper procedure was not followed. And in a more serious development someone who is supposed to be neutral and fair when representing North Antrim deliberately tried to mislead the hearings committee - this is something that should not be tolerated - he is supposed to be a top ref and administrator, looks like his career may be put on hold for a while.
Secondly, bringing video evidence into local games is a dangerous development - how many matches could we not pick something up - does that mean all games should be recorded and watched closely afterwards - to me if this happens then the great sport of hurling will become less attractive for our young men as they will go to other sports.
Who decided to use the evidence in North Antrim? and for what reason? - Skinner was sent off by the ref and obviously noted in his report.  Should this not have been enough evidence for them?  Or was it that the fat controller was trying to look after his own club interests? - it wouldn't surprise me as his record of being fair and neutral isn't that great. 

So ding got off on a technicality....fair enough...he's not the first and not the last...it happens and every club has benefited from administrative errors or officials not seeing everything so we should not get high and mighty this one...but he still is what he is though regardless, judging him on his behaviour over his career.
The motivations of those who tried to cite Ding need to be understood before anyone can say that what they done was more serious than what Ding was sent off for. I didn't see what he done (still waiting on someone to post the link to an online video) but they may have thought it serious enough not to let such behaviour go unpunished because they wanted to protect players and make these serial offenders think twice before they do such things again. I understand why some might think that, to some degree that motivations to push this might have been hightened by club loyalty, but we cannot say that for sure. People will have their suspicions though.

Its a very complex argument about whether video evidence should be used when it comes to administering justice and I'm not going to get into that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 11, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
I suspect the attempt to punish Ding will have been down to his previous ( ie having a go at ref after a championship match a few years back ). refs/ administrators remember these things and will be looking for a chance for payback. I do not think it is because he is a shamrock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 11, 2009, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 11, 2009, 11:41:17 AM
So lads, whats this Cushendall team like!!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Going by what i watched on Sunday, pretty Poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 11:50:09 AM
hatchet, do disrespect to you, but i think you will have your hands full come the weekend! what about yourselves, full squad? any injuries? is desie still playing for you, what about panzer,marty, and blondie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
*no disrespect to you! doh! if i could only type...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 11, 2009, 11:59:30 AM
IMO the rules and guidelines as to when and how video evidence can and should be used needs to be clear and well defined so that everyone can believe that the club loyalties of administrators and referee's cannot be called into question as a motivating factor for bringing such actions.

Each county board needs to decide whether a competition will be using video evidence and if so all games within that competition would need to be video'd to ensure a level playing field for everyone.

ultimatley I believe it should be the referee who makes the final decision on whether he needs to review a video in case he's missed something. He may consult with his officials but he must make the call, not some other committee member hanging over the wire.


As for Ding Gillan having 'previous', that should not count against him (unless he's sent off for the same offence within 2 years) and each incident needs to be looked upon in isolation, but that's in an ideal world and we all carry prejudices around with us in one form or another. Referee's and officials need to ignore their 'ones to watch out for' instincts and treat all players on an equal footing at the start of each game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2009, 12:02:03 PM
If they actually knew what to be looking for in the first place as a dirty stroke then we wouldnt be having this conversation as neither place in question would finish any match they started.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 12:07:17 PM
Don't understand that NAG1  ???

Heres the video btw (many thanks for the PM ****)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4hvwtn1oxU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4hvwtn1oxU&feature=related)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2009, 12:11:46 PM
I mean if the refs knew what was a seriously cowardly and dirty stroke and what was a genuine attempt to play the ball then both of the players in question would have to seriously take a look at their game if they wanted to play and not be continually suspended.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
The interesting thing about watching the video was that it took me 5 replays to see what ding did. Referees job is a nightmare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 11, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
On a lighter note this video appears as a related video.

It is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xr0U5n9OM&feature=related 

some bad golfers in Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 11, 2009, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
The interesting thing about watching the video was that it took me 5 replays to see what ding did. Referees job is a nightmare

What number was Ding?

You could argue that there were a few badly timed shoulders leading up to the melee but skinners frontal was rightly blown up by the referee and would probably have resulted in nothing more than a yellow if the fullback hadn't got involved with skinner (not that I'd have done such a thing  ;) ). As for the Dunloy No5, he's the first to jab in the back with the hurl and IMO got his just desserts when he also got one in the back albeit with a lot more force. If you want to dish it out you got to be prepared to take some as well.

All in all that wasn't too bad and doesn't merit a whole pile of discussion let alone a witch hunt.

I've seen worse at an U-14 match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 12:45:14 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 11, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
On a lighter note this video appears as a related video.

It is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xr0U5n9OM&feature=related 

some bad golfers in Loughgiel

have to agree with you gael, they should stick to the hurling. what about the third shot, tiger rankin i think it was! absolutely class! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 11, 2009, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 11, 2009, 12:45:14 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 11, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
On a lighter note this video appears as a related video.

It is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xr0U5n9OM&feature=related 

some bad golfers in Loughgiel

have to agree with you gael, they should stick to the hurling. what about the third shot, tiger rankin i think it was! absolutely class! :)


'get the ball into chopper'

Can't say I'd be much better myself TBH.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 12:52:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 11, 2009, 12:42:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
The interesting thing about watching the video was that it took me 5 replays to see what ding did. Referees job is a nightmare

What number was Ding?

You could argue that there were a few badly timed shoulders leading up to the melee but skinners frontal was rightly blown up by the referee and would probably have resulted in nothing more than a yellow if the fullback hadn't got involved with skinner (not that I'd have done such a thing  ;) ). As for the Dunloy No5, he's the first to jab in the back with the hurl and IMO got his just desserts when he also got one in the back albeit with a lot more force. If you want to dish it out you got to be prepared to take some as well.

All in all that wasn't too bad and doesn't merit a whole pile of discussion let alone a witch hunt.

I've seen worse at an U-14 match.

here here, johnney, i've seen some of those ards under14 matches between yourselves and the 'crans, and this is much tamer! you talk a lot of sense, i can't see how ding would have been the only one picked out of that incident. there'd be at least another four players worth mentioning if that was the case. but youre right, it was much fuss about nothing. how're things in the ards, when are the semis? who do you get, or what way does the draw work down there? i heard antrim u21 were to play the 'crans this week but not sure if it happened yet or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 11, 2009, 01:01:35 PM
Saw that NA Gael about the golf...their rounds must have taken a while on a wet day!


The incident
There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Damien McMullan did to come in with the shoulder after Skinner's first dirty tackle...that is part of our game but in permitting that then do the floodgates open??

Looking at the incident itself it would appear that Dunloy (through James McKeague?) hit the first dirty blow after Skinner's foul. But Loughgeil are just clearly better at the dirt (as evidenced by the two Dunloy men lying on the ground in the aftermath...and the Loughgeil man simply looking for a new stick!).

James McKeague hit Skinner in the back with the stick first which I think you have previously said Skull.
Whether Skinner's tackle was bad/worse and Gillan's the same they were both a reaction.
Took me a couple of views to see what Ding Gillen did as well, looks like he ran with a shoulder but clearly used the stick.

It goes back to a discussion on here or elsewhere, sticks should be used for hitting/going for the ball full stop...not jockeying for position, not digging your marker in the ribs to "get to know him" etc. Simply to play the game.
If you in the course of a hard fair/borderline tackle you get a belt, take it.

It took some fecking force from Skinner to break a stick in that way...the fella he hit then has to get up a go to a job the next day with broken ribs or a similar injury. That's not 'part and parcel' of our game in my book and shouldn't be in anybody's book.

Children watching that game will see what their senior players are doing. That is no sort of example to be setting. That's the point Wino...not the bureaucratic bullsh1t that sees players get off on technicalities.

It should be a privilege to hold a hurl.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
It's all down to the amount of force IMO. Yes James jabbed, and deserved something back, but both Skinner and Ding went in with full force to do real damage. There is a difference.

Your right though...I've seen worse so it needs to be kept in perspective, but real intent to injure was there so .......


Ding No.11 BTW
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 11, 2009, 01:31:53 PM
Whatever of this individual case i think a disciplinary problem exists in club hurling where certain individuals are always walking a tight line, and get away with consistently being dirty as most ref's will give a booking first, there should be a system where so many booking result in a suspension

Where Loughgiel sanctioned for the action of the supportter?
On what grounds was Skinner's ban halved, don't see much there to support it?

As for the championship, really heating up now

Cushendall did (by all accounts) a Cushendall and won the first round without impressing anyone, and they'll probaly do the same this weekend though i think it'll be a very comfortable game for them

Loughiel missing Winker, JC & James Campbell will have a though time against Rossa in the ctity, though Casement should probaly suit the shamrocks more with a bit more pace in there forwards.  Think the Shamrocks will win by 5/6

Glenarriffe have put a good league campaign together and should be too strong for what on paper would be the weaker of the three divisional boards, but again it all depends on how much work they have been able to put in.

Couldn't possibly comment on our own game, suffice to saw Ballycastle are an ever improving team and can count themselves unlucky in the last couple of games between us.  Hopefully our boys can do it -- but you do well to catch high ball against the town with Hippy, McAUley, Pinky, Matthew and Ryan Donnelly and Cossy all good ball winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 11, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
It's all down to the amount of force IMO. Yes James jabbed, and deserved something back, but both Skinner and Ding went in with full force to do real damage. There is a difference.

Your right though...I've seen worse so it needs to be kept in perspective, but real intent to injure was there so .......


Ding No.11 BTW
see him now, no worse than anyone else and i do take into consideration what you're saying about the amount of force but its a hard one for a referee to call whether there was intent to injure or not as even the slightest of well placed jabs can do serious damage. Obviously the more power the more likely to do damage. As for going to work, don't get involved and your chances greatly improve.

Someone mentioned the lack of ability in some referee's to spot the difference in a dirty pull and a honest hard pull and I've found that to be true in some instances particularily under the dropping ball where a (deliberate) badly timed pull or low pull can do serious damage to either arm or head, yet i've seen lads getting blown up if they've batted down the ball, hand and all, which IMO has always been fine.

Hoors blocking on the hands, nowhere near the ball has always been a pet hate of mine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 04:03:20 PM
anailis, you seem to know a lot about the process, obviously leeking info from the club an you taking video from other side of pitch. The truth be told that the two boys were sent of last year against the same team, neither an angel. As for the head man he would hardly be worried about loughgiel as our men have beaten you in three recent finals with you full team and we gave you a 8 point lead in one final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 04:20:59 PM
First time using this thing, I hope I am on the right track guys?

Just watched the Loughguille v Dunloy video on YouTube.  Number five from Dunloy and 11 from Loughguile should both be disciplined if you ask me.  Looks like 'Ding's' being made a scapegoat and is the sacrificial lamb!  North Antrim CCC have got it all Wong in my opinion given what I have just viewed.  I am surprised the Linesman didn't see anything. Was also at the game on Sunday, Ding starred in this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
QuoteThe truth be told ......
???
You would almost think that there is only one truth out there and let that be the end of all the untruths  :-\

Welcome wideball....if you'd have called Ding the sacrificial wolf then I'd agree with most of that. He's a good hurler but he's no lamb  :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 11, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
In all seriousness skull, i would agree with wbffsref i think the linesman has a lot to answer for, he should have made the call!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 04:31:40 PM
Who is this high profile referee omn the North Antrim CCC anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Whats this blaming linesmen Queenie for something it took the rest of us 4 or 5 replays in a video to see what actually happened.  ???

And even if YOU seen it first time because you had your eye on the right person/people, the linesmans focus may have been on other players at that moment in time.

Give him a break FFS!! ......On second thoughts after just remembering what happened him afterwards because someone held the same opinion as yourself ....don't bother  :P :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 11, 2009, 04:58:39 PM
Don't see how you can blame the linesman, theres an awful lot happens in a very short space of time in that clip and we only see one angle over and over again.

The linesman view would of been different again and he would of only seen it once.

I think the ref actually got it spot on with a sending of to Loughgiels No. 10.  Maybe a few yellows for the subsequent mellee if your being really picky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 11, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
Skull his angle was better than that of the video, as it starts he steps in? 5 from dunloy has a pop at 10 from shamrocks, 11 who is on the deck gets up and pops 5 the same time as ding responds to 5 having a go. Now it happened fast but he is right on the spot, i can see why some people got pissed at him, however it was an absolute disgrace what happened to him after the game, no place in the game and should be dealt with severely.

wbffs-ref, i think the ref is from the All Saints club that sits on the CCC in NA, would,nt want to be in his shoes if he has made a mistake according to anailis!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 05:13:33 PM
Well, according to the 'Official Rule Book' Dunloy Number five - pulling the opponents face guard - straight RED CARD.  Number 11 from Loughguille, really put the sick in.  Ding did Jab him, but if you look at real close, clearly you will see number Eleven was the one who done the real damage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
No point in convincing you Queenie....theres no chance you could be mistaken and that the lineman did not see everything we seen in the video after numerous replays  :-\

Ding was No 11 BTW wideball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 05:27:05 PM
Who was it refereeing this match, was it by chance Terry(ible) Reilly.  I was out of the country at the time and obviously could not attend.  It really does strengthen the case for th use of video evidence.  I hope the game between Loughguille av St. John's on Sunday last was on video also.  Some really dirty strokes (kicks).  Referee got all the Reds and Yellows right in this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 11, 2009, 05:38:35 PM
Skull I'm not saying he should have got everthing, the referee, umpires, line come on. The video shows no consulting with umpires, yes he consults with the line however the referee and all his officials should have been consulted then maybe they would have got the whole picture. Its the toughest job around and seems to be getting tougher.WBFFS-Ref what happened on Sunday, I'm a city man so be careful, did St Johns lose control, what about winker and MC FLL whats your views on this one? TR is on the CHC what about him, decent lad from my experience, what have you against him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 04:03:20 PM
anailis, you seem to know a lot about the process, obviously leeking info from the club an you taking video from other side of pitch. The truth be told that the two boys were sent of last year against the same team, neither an angel. As for the head man he would hardly be worried about loughgiel as our men have beaten you in three recent finals with you full team and we gave you a 8 point lead in one final.

Not sure what exactly youre trying to say james about taking video from other side of pitch, or leaking info from Loughgiel. Seems you might be adding 2 + 2 and getting 5. The video i was talking about was from a member of Glenarm club, the info on the appeals hearing came from three different sources, a South Antrim referee, a North Antrim CCC member who wasn't at all happy with the investigation and a Loughgiel clubman. Not sure what you think of that but i haven't heard anyone on here contradict it yet. I'm sure if the story isn't true, Ding Gillan will be back up in front of the County or whoever and will be suspended. As far as what the "head man" as you call him thinks, i hadn't thought of it from the angle that he might have an agenda of trying to weaken Loughgiel come the championship. Based on what i saw at all the championship games last weekend, the championship is still between Cushendall and Dunloy, with Cushendall probably getting my nod based on their habit of peaking at the right time.

As far as the last few finals go, the results can't be argued, neither can the performances.

Gracious winners live long in the memory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
It's not that I have anything angainst Terry(ible) Reilly as such, but 'Gamekeeper - Poacher and all that.  He referees and sits on a panel which the judges on incidents. not trght if you ask me!  I just dont think that he is a competent referee, especially when it comes to a Loughguille and Dunloy match.  This game should have been refereed by either, Owen Elliot, Garret Duffy or Ray Mathews in that order.  Who appointed Terry(ible) for this game anyway?

I have to agree with Skull, queenie.  The Linesman cannot really be expected to see everything when a melle occours.  However, he should have maybe consulted with his umpires, fourth offical and other linesman.  It's amazing the things that may be seen by others in such situations.  I did not see Terry(ible) consulting with anyone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2009, 05:49:41 PM
All I can do Queenie is take on board what you type and you have isolated the linesman as someone who has alot to answer for.

So are you now saying that the linesman doesn't have alot to answer for? Some consistency would help  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 05:52:51 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
It's not that I have anything angainst Terry(ible) Reilly as such, but 'Gamekeeper - Poacher and all that.  He referees and sits on a panel which the judges on incidents. not trght if you ask me!  I just dont think that he is a competent referee, especially when it comes to a Loughguille and Dunloy match.  This game should have been refereed by either, Owen Elliot, Garret Duffy or Ray Mathews in that order.  Who appointed Terry(ible) for this game anyway?

I have to agree with Skull, queenie.  The Linesman cannot really be expected to see everything when a melle occours.  However, he should have maybe consulted with his umpires, fourth offical and other linesman.  It's amazing the things that may be seen by others in such situations.  I did not see Terry(ible) consulting with anyone!

Sorry, the referee was called Hasson, it wasn't the other guy you mentioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Thanks Aalisis, I thought it the Terry(ible) one. Ach, Eamon Hasson from Derry, not a bad lad at all.  Sorry, I was obviously mis-iniformed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:15:18 PM
So looking the previous comments made by contributors, is it a case whereby a 'High Profile Referee' from this county has actually told lies at a CHC meeting and actually deviated from the facts. Surely this will have implications fro his reffing career and justifiably so, if you ask me!  It will be interesting to see what the county godfathers do about this one.  See what I mean, FFS -  Ref, sure you couldn't trust any of the hoors when it come down to the nitty gritty.  Maybe time for some new referees to be schooled and brought to the fore, excluding the Terry(ible) of course! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 11, 2009, 06:15:35 PM
skull everyone plays there part on the day, that team of officials on viewing the video did,nt thats what i am saying so in the interest of consistency the are all equally to blame. Players will always try to get away with what they can, thats why you have officials. On the day they got it wrong based on the video i may add, thats all. Good lads that they are, they too can make mistakes so they all have it to answer for, hows that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: wihttp://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5728deball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Thanks Aalisis, I thought it the Terry(ible) one. Ach, Eamon Hasson from Derry, not a bad lad at all.  Sorry, I was obviously mis-iniformed.

Sorry, Anailís
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Quote from: wihttp://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5728deball - ffs ref on August 11, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Thanks Aalisis, I thought it the Terry(ible) one. Ach, Eamon Hasson from Derry, not a bad lad at all.  Sorry, I was obviously mis-iniformed.

Sorry, Anailís

No bother wideball! Heard this evening that a young sub for Ballycran was hurt against Dunloy on Sunday, having to be ambulanced off the pitch. I heard it was an accident, he run into the end of a goal-scoring swing, is that right? Anyone know if he is ok? Any match reports from that game, if anyone was there?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 11, 2009, 06:52:59 PM
Same ref doing this game as youtube, heard last night he was in a bad way at the pitch, straight on the throat/neck very lucky poor lad, hope he comes through it with no lasting damage, freek one to say the least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 11, 2009, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 10, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
After a dirty challenge with real intent to mame someone, there will always be a bit of a melee, and as long as nothing too treacherous happens then in that melee then to me it's part of the game. The main aggressor has to stood up to. But yes I agree that if the melee decends into similar levels of violence as the first challange then those involved should be dealt with as well. I also thought Cathair was lucky not to be carded for his involvement.

Tried to go looking for that video online but no joy.............. but I found this clinker from 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg (http://www.youtube.com/user/feisnangleann#play/uploads/0/1E1G1bQXnQg)

Check out 2:37 onwards.  :)

For 10 points name the Dall number 5 and the Dunloy number 12


Dall number 5 = Sambo
Dunloy number 12 = Dominic Kearns of Glenariffe?

Top of the class Skull?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 11, 2009, 10:18:25 PM
Have looked at the clip on YouTube a few times now and i cant understand what all the fuss is about. Yes there are digs to the ribs, first by the Dunloy no.5 then the 2 L'giel players but there are no wild swings or pulls. Why cant we all just get on  :-*

On to the weekend i think C'dall will come through handy and going on the performance of the 1st 2 divisional sides i think Glenariffe will get through. A few people here are tipping Rossa but not sure why. This is there 2nd season in Div 2 and they have had a few defeats both years and ok they have a great tradition but i cant see how they can just turn it on like a light going from playin Div 2 teams to playing Loughgiel. L'giel to get through after a struggle.

Ballycastle went 3.4 to nothing down to Dunloy in last years championship and that was that. If theres no repeat of that hopefully Ballycastle can push Dunloy but i still think Dunloy with the greater experience in their team will come through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:47:31 PM
Sorry i forgot to mention another conspiracy theory, would Owen Elliott be getting paid back by Terrible Reilly (CHC) ,fellow ref Former Gorts chair, and general upstanding Gael for sending him off last year for verbally abusing a fellow ref?  and no he wasn't suspended in case your wondering. Was himself in bother again recently reffing the Johnnies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: McCracken on August 11, 2009, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.

James, like lots of others I have been watching this thread with interest for a while now and have noticed that on a couple of occasions you have made reference to a fellow clubman of your own and his alleged potential involvement. I could be wrong but you appear to be the only one on here making this association, is there something you know that the rest of us don't? Perhaps this is why you are so vociferous in your replies ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 11, 2009, 11:39:22 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.

Aye James, i'm not 100% sure if there were any injuries coming out of the weekend's match. I didn't see or hear of anyone struggling at the time, so hopefully preparation will be as well as expected. Did Neil McManus have the flu or something? I didn't think he was his normal dynamic self at the weekend, although he got the goal when moved into the ff line. I think I'd rather see him hurling at chb, although it's a sign of a good team when you have a boy like Graffin in that position. He's a class act i have to say, and a nice lad to boot. Very grounded. Can we bottle some of that and hand it out to some other players do you think! Hopefully the weather is dry at the weekend, whatever chance there is of any of the matches being entertaining, it will take the weather too, i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 12, 2009, 08:39:50 AM
Quote from: McCracken on August 11, 2009, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.

James, like lots of others I have been watching this thread with interest for a while now and have noticed that on a couple of occasions you have made reference to a fellow clubman of your own and his alleged potential involvement. I could be wrong but you appear to be the only one on here making this association, is there something you know that the rest of us don't? Perhaps this is why you are so vociferous in your replies ???

would rather stay out of this discussion but i think you should maybe read back again, JamesH is only responding to comments made in an earlier post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2009, 09:08:22 AM
This controversy has certainly brought alot of new members to the board!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 12, 2009, 09:08:22 AM
This controversy has certainly brought alot of new members to the board!  ;)

Any one know Watson did to get the line? Must be some slap in the face for the panel players to watch him come back straight into the team and then just to throw it away like it means nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2009, 10:22:40 AM
I heard (so could be wrong) that it was for retaliation after someone put the stick into him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 12, 2009, 10:32:53 AM
I think that's right enough skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 10:41:18 AM
the ealier post by someone stating he caught a good ball, got emptied by a shoulder and got done for over carrying. A johnnies player gave him a shoulder when he starting complaining. Watson put the end of the hurl straight into a players sternum, he got shouldered by another johnnies player for it and watson done the exact same to him. all in front of the ref.

clear case of a red card.

I think all this about the Feis Final has been enough and time to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: viking48 on August 12, 2009, 11:09:50 AM
Couldnt agree more colonel the fies topic seems to be draging on abit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 12, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 10:41:18 AM
the ealier post by someone stating he caught a good ball, got emptied by a shoulder and got done for over carrying. A johnnies player gave him a shoulder when he starting complaining. Watson put the end of the hurl straight into a players sternum, he got shouldered by another johnnies player for it and watson done the exact same to him. all in front of the ref.

clear case of a red card.

I think all this about the Feis Final has been enough and time to move on.

That pretty much sums up the red card incident and he had to go, it was very stupid.

As far as I've been told he has only trained 3/4 times with Loughgiel this year so i'm sure there are a few people who will be annoyed by his inclusion.  Everybody knows he's got the talent but his attitude stinks.  Not the first management team with club and county to try and accomodate him and won't be the last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 11:37:01 AM
I think Loughgiel would be better without him, means their players need to stand up for themselves.

If i was the likes of young napper not getting a starting spot i'd be raging. He did well when he came on and scored a good point. I think it was because of a broken arm that w**ker wasn't back earlier.

Bad knee injury for Brick McCarthy at the weekend. He was absolutely gutted when I was speaking to him on Sunday night. Hopefully its not as bad as first feared
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: An fear san ardán... on August 12, 2009, 11:40:32 AM
Been reading gaaboard for a good few months now, but championships got me a bit more interested :P

Definately would get on your nerves if you were on that Loughgeil panel..wonder child danders in a week before championship and takes what could have been your place?  Surely any young boy coming through would think what's the point?  Lack of confidence in the panel from the managers if you ask me

Anyway, this weekend.  Could Ballycastle cause an upset after last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Its funny there wasnt this amount of interest around the county games earlier in the year, what does that say!  ;)

Bad news for the young lad from Cushendall especially as he was just breaking into the team this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2009, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: An fear san ardán... on August 12, 2009, 11:40:32 AM

Anyway, this weekend.  Could Ballycastle cause an upset after last year?

If its a wet and pishy day then Ballycastle have a good chance, physically big team but not the most mobile but play to their strengths. Maybe lacking one or two scoring forwards but they have improved a lot this year.

Where is that game to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 12:06:15 PM
Gort Na Mona  Ruairi Og  Casement Park 15/08/2009 17:30   
Rossa  Loughgiel  Casement Park 15/08/2009 19:00   
Glenariff  S.W. Antrim  Loughguile 16/08/2009 17:30 McAuley Liam  Not Played 
Ballycastle  Dunloy  Loughguile 16/08/2009 19:00


I heard that young fella McVeigh that played for Ballycastle at the weekend plays football for St Eunan's Letterkenny and also plays for Donegal Senior Hurlers, must be a fair amount of travelling for an 18 year old to play/train
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: An fear san ardán... on August 12, 2009, 12:16:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 12:06:15 PM
I heard that young fella McVeigh that played for Ballycastle at the weekend plays football for St Eunan's Letterkenny and also plays for Donegal Senior Hurlers, must be a fair amount of travelling for an 18 year old to play/train

I heard that he was living in Ballycastle for the summer?  Looked like a big strong lad, with a good bit of pace too.  Shooting let him down once or twice but looked promising enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 12, 2009, 12:19:45 PM
Anilis ,Mc Manus was in bed for a couple of days with flu, although he has been sluggish all year, i feel because of the work he has to do for his back he perhaps is too bulked up and lost that yard thats needed in forwards. Although i wouldn't swap him for any hurler other that Graffin, he will be vital to us winning the championship.
I was at the match on Sunday and Watson reacted  harshly to a daunt with the shoulder, his reaction was way ott. The Shamrocks management should have sent him straight down the line to the changing room. Whatever the reason he knows he will get away with it. The Other lads and proper supporters seem to be getting fed up with the annual Watson circus. Jc is a much bigger loss to LG this year and a good lad. The likes of sheamy dobbin etc will come through next year and a better team spirit no doubt will follow as someone mentioned, LG could be better off. The standard needed to win the championship is falling in Antrim every year so perhaps they are not that far away, i def see our standard slipping, players playing now that would be nowhere near the team ten years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 12, 2009, 12:35:39 PM
5-6 pages of posts in a couple of days - has to be some sort of record for this thread!!  And interestingly enough mostlyl about disciplinary issues which seems to have prompted a few by-standers to join up for a bit of the action!!  Careful now lads.....you never know who is watching (or posting) now  :D

Weather forecast is disasterous for Friday/Saturday so the going will be tough for any of the games on Sat/Sun - i think if SW had of played on Sunday past it would have been a disaster - maybe the extra week will give the management a bit more time to 'persuade' a few more players to turn out.  Can't see too many from Tir na nOg or Ahoghill turning out if they are playing IHC on Sat evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 12, 2009, 01:08:02 PM
Sure the Tir na Nog boys were playing Sarsfields last Saturday night and had committed to the Sunday game, Ahoghill I hear fancy themselves for the intermediate this year  ::) so have opted out. Should still be a reasonable team out and at least it sets the ball rolling for next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 12, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Can't really see anyone beating St. Gall's who are looking good at the minute for Intermediate - absolutely tanked Glenarm last night in Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
 From County Website

Senior Hurling      
      
1st Round   W/E 9th August   
1/4 Finals   W/E 16th August    
Semi Finals   W/E 30th August   
Final   27th September   
Ulster 11/10/2009 or 25/10/2009
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 02:29:27 PM
How come a Derry man was in the middle at the Feis Cup Final?  Are our own referees not good/impartial enough.  Hasson is a good lad, but thought his appointment for this one was a little odd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 12, 2009, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 02:29:27 PM
How come a Derry man was in the middle at the Feis Cup Final?  Are our own referees not good/impartial enough.  Hasson is a good lad, but thought his appointment for this one was a little odd.

What odds who was refereeing it, think this topic has got enough coverage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 12, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
E Hassan also referee's in the Antrim Leagues, think he may be a member of the Rasharkin club, excellent referee in my opinion, refereed our game v Ballycran at weekend where a Ballycran hurler got fairly seriously hurt, injury to the throat, don't know how it happened but any of the down lads have an update on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2009, 03:01:26 PM
wideball you taking up supporting DC then?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 12, 2009, 03:06:13 PM
I think the U21s gave Ballycran a fair tanking in Casement on Monday night although I think both teams were missing a few.

Anyone at the game?  Who starred for Antrim?  Much hope against the Cats?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2009, 03:43:36 PM
Fear of a hammering cannot come into to the mindsets of the players. As long as they all display the right work ethic, attacking attitude and they try to play the game at a fast pace without fear of their opponents then that would be a success for me regardless. Pity the game couldn't be played in Croker on the Sunday in Croker along with the AISF Football. Would have brought abit of glamour to the tie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: An fear san ardán... on August 12, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
Is this not the same group now that looked very promising at minor?  I would think that there may be some chance of an All Ireland final place, but then again, they're playing Kilkenny and realistically, that's always going to be on their mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 12, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: An fear san ardán... on August 12, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
Is this not the same group now that looked very promising at minor?  I would think that there may be some chance of an All Ireland final place, but then again, they're playing Kilkenny and realistically, that's always going to be on their mind.

You're right - the golden generation!

I know I've harped on about it before, but their big chance was 2007 when Dublin won Leinster and Ulster played Leinster in the semi-final. Of course, Antrim being Antrim, they went and blew it against Derry.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 12, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Can't really see anyone beating St. Gall's who are looking good at the minute for Intermediate - absolutely tanked Glenarm last night in Div 2.

scorelines can be very deceiving aontroim, game was competitive. point in it at halftime. our lads very rusty with no real 'team' training until lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 12, 2009, 06:04:03 PM
Think the Rossa v Shamrocks will be a cracker, fortune favours the brave lets hope Rossa give it a real go, city needs something. Who is Colm Cunning (referee)? Is he one of the new lads on the scene, lets hope he lets the game develop into what should be worth the admittance fee on the night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 12, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 12, 2009, 06:04:03 PM
Think the Rossa v Shamrocks will be a cracker, fortune favours the brave lets hope Rossa give it a real go, city needs something. Who is Colm Cunning (referee)? Is he one of the new lads on the scene, lets hope he lets the game develop into what should be worth the admittance fee on the night.

Colm Cunning from Dunloy.  I think hes a brother of Connor Cunning.  Usually has his mum and dad with him to do umpires so there will be no off the ball incidents missed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
Who were the 'Lager Louts'  scumbags, giving all the verbals on the hill at Cushendall last Sunday?  These guys should not be admitted to any hurling match IMO!  Obviously from the city and possibly attached to Naomh Eoin I suspect!

Guys likes this, are not good for the county in either code!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 08:02:05 PM
Pat McCaffrey doing the Gort Na Mona v Cushendall match.  That should be fun, FFS Speedy! :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
Who were the 'Lager Louts'  scumbags, giving all the verbals on the hill at Cushendall last Sunday?  These guys should not be admitted to any hurling match IMO!  Obviously from the city and possibly attached to Naomh Eoin I suspect!

Guys likes this, are not good for the county in either code!

I never seen anything on the hill wideball,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 12, 2009, 08:15:24 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 12, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
Who were the 'Lager Louts'  scumbags, giving all the verbals on the hill at Cushendall last Sunday?  These guys should not be admitted to any hurling match IMO!  Obviously from the city and possibly attached to Naomh Eoin I suspect!

Guys likes this, are not good for the county in either code!

Saw a couple of those lads there on Sunday, was told by a Rossa player that they were from his club. Wasn't sure whether it was just a smoke screen to detract attention from their preparations for this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 12, 2009, 09:43:19 PM
Is it okay for someone who is on the Dunloy senior hurling panel to be in charge of a game in the same championship that his team plays.  Nothing against young Cunning, I actually think he is a very good ref and very fair, and obviously takes his duties very seriously when his parents assist him in any game that I have seen, but I thought there was a rule on this sort of thing. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
that would be silly. means that Tommy McIntyre would not be able to referee teams as Loughgiel always get to the final!!! so by your train of thought he'd have it in for some players from the games he referees??

the referees who are getting the senior championship matches are jocking for position to get the final.  who will get it this year? Big Eugene (final year) Tommy? if Loughgiel don't make it? Pat McCaff (speedy, now Rossa man) or the three likely lads Ray (christ he's put on weight ;)) Owen (great semi final last year) or Garret (sound whistler)

i'm thinking there might be a dark horse this year, Terry Reilly has been making strides this year and could be on course to spring a shock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 12, 2009, 10:32:33 PM
we get loughgiel in the semi, if we beat them i'd say tommy is due one after 7 yrs
Title: Bredagh Talks Sam & Liam Sept 3rd @8.30pm Wellington Park Hotel
Post by: bredaghgael on August 13, 2009, 01:13:29 AM
 Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Other guests will be confirmed closer to the event
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.

Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 13, 2009, 07:35:57 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 12, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
that would be silly. means that Tommy McIntyre would not be able to referee teams as Loughgiel always get to the final!!! so by your train of thought he'd have it in for some players from the games he referees??

the referees who are getting the senior championship matches are jocking for position to get the final.  who will get it this year? Big Eugene (final year) Tommy? if Loughgiel don't make it? Pat McCaff (speedy, now Rossa man) or the three likely lads Ray (christ he's put on weight ;)) Owen (great semi final last year) or Garret (sound whistler)

i'm thinking there might be a dark horse this year, Terry Reilly has been making strides this year and could be on course to spring a shock

I would agree MR, though both Ray and Garrett have had finals this last 2 years, so it would count them out. I think Owen Elliott would be favoured with Liam MC Auley(Herbie) decent spud, the lad that was assaulted after the Feis. To early for Terry, maybe in the next few years though, think he lacks the experience watched him a few times this year.Speedy would,nt have a chance at all, although has been a great servant to the county. My money is on Elliott with Herbie a close 2nd, all joking aside Ray has put on the beef, struggled at Loughguile to keep up with play. Don,t know the lad Cunning have,nt seen him yet, look forward to Saturday, big chance for him maybe. As said, hope Rossa give a good account of themselves, us city boys need something to cheer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Anyone think Rossa have a realistic chance of turning over a depleted loughgiel side?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 13, 2009, 11:49:01 AM
I fancy them to make a game of it for the first half but I'd expect Loughgiel to win by 10 points or so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 13, 2009, 11:51:05 AM
Loughgiel will be missing Johnny Campbell, James Campbell both injured and Winker who is suspended.  Johnny and James are a big loss particuarly Johnny.  Think there better of without Winker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 13, 2009, 01:29:22 PM
Rossa will go into this match with no fear. they (Rossa) have, call it arrogance if ya like, a belief that they always have a chance of winning the senior championship. they knocked the Johnnies out last year when everyone thought that the Johnnies would achieve something.

i think that they will beat Loughgiel because Loughgiel don't have the same passion anymore. too many lost finals with the same team and the injuries and suspensions wont help either.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Hatchet how's yous fixed for Saturdays game? wont make the game myself, will be off watching another game. i think Cushendall will come down and be hard to motovate themselves for the game. but will do enough to beat Gorts by 7 points. this is not a slight on either team. Cushendal just have too many good hurlers and a few extra gears in them.

Sean Kelly will knock over the frees all day and the Dall gave away a few last week against the Belfast select team so there is at least 10 points from that avenue. if Sean Delargy picks up Desy and Aaron Graffin picks up sean kelly then i cant see too much happening up front.

who from Gorts will pick up Shane McNaughton? McClelland will be centre half maybe his wee nephew?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 13, 2009, 02:41:34 PM
MR we conceded 0-9 last week, with prob 3 of those from play. So I wouldn't say there would be as much as 10 points from free's available. We could still improve our performance so hopefully we keep this number down. We should have too much but we need good game practice before we play the shamrocks.

Shane was prob our only player on form last weekend so it'll be a tough job for whoever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 13, 2009, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 13, 2009, 02:41:34 PM
MR we conceded 0-9 last week, with prob 3 of those from play. So I wouldn't say there would be as much as 10 points from free's available. We could still improve our performance so hopefully we keep this number down. We should have too much but we need good game practice before we play the shamrocks.
Shane was prob our only player on form last weekend so it'll be a tough job for whoever.



different 'team' colonel than the Belfast team. Gorts lads will be running at ya and playing good low ball in and cross field balls. they have some tidy hurlers.

hear the weather may spoil it.

oh and a little respect please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 13, 2009, 03:02:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Hatchet how's yous fixed for Saturdays game? wont make the game myself, will be off watching another game. i think Cushendall will come down and be hard to motovate themselves for the game. but will do enough to beat Gorts by 7 points. this is not a slight on either team. Cushendal just have too many good hurlers and a few extra gears in them.

Sean Kelly will knock over the frees all day and the Dall gave away a few last week against the Belfast select team so there is at least 10 points from that avenue. if Sean Delargy picks up Desy and Aaron Graffin picks up sean kelly then i cant see too much happening up front.

who from Gorts will pick up Shane McNaughton? McClelland will be centre half maybe his wee nephew?

Id say they will be better prepared, traditionally we dont give many free's as will.

and you have said we should win also, why you pulling me up. All I was suggesting was we would need to improve our performance if we are are to beat the shamrocks as we are expected to be in the semi.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 13, 2009, 03:23:09 PM
my view as a neutral Colonel. would a Dunloy poster come on here and talk about the semi final, before playing Ballycastle?

we play St Teresa's on Sunday. thats the only game I'm thinking of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 13, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Colonel. had you said we would get it tight on Sunday, some would have said you were taking piss, so you can't do right either way. I expect if we are serious this week to win by 10/11 points, but hope the gorts push hard for both our sakes. If they receive a tanking and drop to intermediate next year if does no one no good, on other hand to stay up they must be prepared to battle to get even one championship match win perhaps over the next 3/5 years. That sounds harsh but they must establish themselves in div 1 rather than going up and down, all the new teams served an apprenticeship before winning the volunteer cup, ie Dunloy and Cushendall. Gort's have some handy hurlers and a good club behind them, its really up to them how successful they become, ie how committed, dedicated and disciplined they are both on and off the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 13, 2009, 03:27:31 PM
Think your being overly sensitive Milltown. 

Cushendall and Loughgiel both to win handy for me.  Weather is to be bad so may not be high scoring affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 13, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
well MR thats your opinion,

anyone visited hurlingworld.com, there are highlights of the the st johns games from youube. There are 4 parts on youtube from Loughgiels mystery video man who video's their own (and others) games. Different parts show harsh challenges from st johns but none of the sendings off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lar na Pairce on August 13, 2009, 04:53:45 PM
anyone visited hurlingworld.com, there are highlights of the the st johns games from youube. There are 4 parts on youtube from Loughgiels mystery video man who video's their own (and others) games. Different parts show harsh challenges from st johns but none of the sendings off.

And if you can put 1 and 1 together you can work out the identity of our friend Anailis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 13, 2009, 05:09:33 PM
Quote from: Lar na Pairce on August 13, 2009, 04:53:45 PM
anyone visited hurlingworld.com, there are highlights of the the st johns games from youube. There are 4 parts on youtube from Loughgiels mystery video man who video's their own (and others) games. Different parts show harsh challenges from st johns but none of the sendings off.

And if you can put 1 and 1 together you can work out the identity of our friend Anailis

Been on that site myself Lár. Noticed those videos too. Don't think there is any great secret who videos for Loughgiel, all you have to do is ask anyone from there and you'd get his name.
As far as putting 1 + 1 together to make me him, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'd say the same boy would have some laugh if he was reading that theory.

Btw, i like the look of that site, does anyone know the story of it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 13, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Lar na Pairce on August 13, 2009, 04:53:45 PM
anyone visited hurlingworld.com, there are highlights of the the st johns games from youube. There are 4 parts on youtube from Loughgiels mystery video man who video's their own (and others) games. Different parts show harsh challenges from st johns but none of the sendings off.

And if you can put 1 and 1 together you can work out the identity of our friend Anailis

Sure what would you expect from the McCooeys Lar.  Seems to be an inbred tradition amongst St. John's to attempt to injure and maim, if things are not going their way.  That referee could have sent quite a number of the St. John's men off, but sure what would that have achieved?  Goes with the territory when playing St. John's. Don't get me wrong, I am all for tough, manful and physical hurling, but jabbing people in the groin and hitting them when their backs are turned, don't impress me non at all.  I always found that St. John's players were not so brave when you ran them face on.  They had quite a tradition among the Cu********s of hitting players when their backs was turned. I always tended to think, they actually hit out of fear.  Enough said!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 13, 2009, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.

I heard last night about some of this "new information" that James H has mentioned and i believe that based on the video, at their disposal, the vote to proceed with the case was unanimous at the North Antrim CCC meeting. As the chairman of that cttee, the high profile ref had to proceed with the case. Loughgiel had possession of the alternative video, kept it and only produced it, just in time, less than 24 hours before the CHC meeting (which some people might say is withholding evidence?). NA and the high profile ref were entitled to have the meeting postponed to assess this late evidence but that would have meant that the 2 players in question could not have played last Sunday so in the interest of the players they allowed the video to be played. If this video had been in their possession its probably unlikely that the NA CCC would have proceeded with the case and the high profile ref apparently has evidence which proves he did not tell lies despite untrue opinions earlier in this thread.

For me, all of the above does not sound like the NA Board or the high profile ref has a grudge against anyone so Anailis I think there is a humble pie with your name on it in Mc Evoys and in future it would be best to provide all of the facts before slandering someone on here who, like all refs, has contributed to the betterment of hurling in North Antrim by giving their time to the game. Of course we all assume that you contribute handsomely to helping hurling in North Antrim because nobody who would make such slanderous accusations about a fellow gael, would be doing so from a back seat passenger / hurler on the ditch position, so to speak?

I suppose Loughgeil need something to motivate them to avoid the worst 7 in a row title, ever, and a grand conspiracy theory does the job just nicely.

Now hopefully we can get back to talking about hurling.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 13, 2009, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 13, 2009, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: JamesH on August 11, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
My club mate has been accused of trying to influence the Loughgiel team through being one vote in a committee of five, which seems strange knowing the make up of that co, pretty strong characters involved. Now if he was a referee from Loughgiel picking this weekends ref's their could be a conspiracy theory, but like the Ref he works hard as a volunteer for the association so its a load of balls but he doesn't deserve a crowd of louts giving him abuse every time he goes out the door.  I heard tonight that new info will come to light that will clear the ref who was supposed to have lied,
I do believe and having seen the official dvd Ding did hit with intent and so deserved punished. If it had been against Loughgiel the culprit would have deserved punished. Anyway anilis have you a fit team for Sat? I was told yesterday that SW only had ten players in any case for the cancelled match.

I heard last night about some of this "new information" that James H has mentioned and i believe that based on the video, at their disposal, the vote to proceed with the case was unanimous at the North Antrim CCC meeting. As the chairman of that cttee, the high profile ref had to proceed with the case. Loughgiel had possession of the alternative video, kept it and only produced it, just in time, less than 24 hours before the CHC meeting (which some people might say is withholding evidence?). NA and the high profile ref were entitled to have the meeting postponed to assess this late evidence but that would have meant that the 2 players in question could not have played last Sunday so in the interest of the players they allowed the video to be played. If this video had been in their possession its probably unlikely that the NA CCC would have proceeded with the case and the high profile ref apparently has evidence which proves he did not tell lies despite untrue opinions earlier in this thread.

For me, all of the above does not sound like the NA Board or the high profile ref has a grudge against anyone so Anailis I think there is a humble pie with your name on it in Mc Evoys and in future it would be best to provide all of the facts before slandering someone on here who, like all refs, has contributed to the betterment of hurling in North Antrim by giving their time to the game. Of course we all assume that you contribute handsomely to helping hurling in North Antrim because nobody who would make such slanderous accusations about a fellow gael, would be doing so from a back seat passenger / hurler on the ditch position, so to speak?

I suppose Loughgeil need something to motivate them to avoid the worst 7 in a row title, ever, and a grand conspiracy theory does the job just nicely.

Now hopefully we can get back to talking about hurling.


As i hear it Fairhead, N Antrim didn't have much choice about accepting the DVD as evidence, the County Hearings Committee accepted it despite N Antrim's protestations.
You're asking us to believe that N Antrim (who had brought a case against a Loughgiel player, and must have thought he was guilty, otherwise why bring it?) allowed the meeting to take place and could have postponed it, but didn't out of some sense of sympathy towards the two players? Why be sympathetic to them if you believe they should be punished.
You also say that if they had seen the other dvd, its probably unlikely that they would have proceded with the case? This illustrates the careless approach of the investigation, ie that they didn't investigate the situation as per the official guide - no witness statements from officials, witnesses or seeking of other relevant evidence, never mind accurate documentation. On the with-holding evidence, why were Loughgiel not furnished with the clarification documentation, and the amended disciplinary report (containing witness statements etc) as per T.O. procedure? Also, why did Paul Gillan not get the DVD which N Antrim were using against him, as was his right? As i understand it he was given it and it was taken back from him, which isn't supposed to happen either.

There is an easy way to clear it up. Either E Hasson was contacted by N Antrim to clarify his report, or he wasn't.
If he was, then what i heard was wrong.
Imagine similar events happened to yourself or a player from your own club, what would you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 14, 2009, 01:26:48 AM
Fairhead,  you have obviously been well versed (but not well informed) by someone very close to the centre of NACCC.  I think you should get the facts correct before talking such nonsense.  You defend it that strongly I am beginning to wonder if you yourself are involved with NACCC and trying to put some positive spin on the whole matter.  I can understand why you want more positive spin as none of this does Hurling in NA any good, but, if the accusations are true then why should that type of person or persons be involved in running the association in NA.

As far as Loughgiel needing a conspiracy to motivate them is concerned - nothing could be further from the truth.  I could guarantee that none of these players care about what is going on with administration, they are just happy Ding and Skinner got fair play in the end.

Almost forgot - the discussions seemed to be mostly about Hurling until you woke up again and started your rant.  Maybe you just want to keep it going to try and help your mates perception in the public eye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 14, 2009, 09:13:48 AM
Quote from: wino on August 14, 2009, 01:26:48 AM
Fairhead,  you have obviously been well versed (but not well informed) by someone very close to the centre of NACCC.  I think you should get the facts correct before talking such nonsense.  You defend it that strongly I am beginning to wonder if you yourself are involved with NACCC and trying to put some positive spin on the whole matter.  I can understand why you want more positive spin as none of this does Hurling in NA any good, but, if the accusations are true then why should that type of person or persons be involved in running the association in NA.

As far as Loughgiel needing a conspiracy to motivate them is concerned - nothing could be further from the truth.  I could guarantee that none of these players care about what is going on with administration, they are just happy Ding and Skinner got fair play in the end.

Almost forgot - the discussions seemed to be mostly about Hurling until you woke up again and started your rant.  Maybe you just want to keep it going to try and help your mates perception in the public eye.


would rather this wasnt brought up again, but this comment somewhat annoyed me, this is a big problem IMO among all clubs, as far as i saw it Skinner got sent off and rightly so, so how do you come by the above staement.

im not very big up in the whole commitee thing and only recently worked out who the Main NACC person yous are talking about is, but from posts on here its quite obvious that loughgiel have not much love for this person either, and if what JamesH said (i think) is true then its a total disgrace and that club and players should be ashamed of themsleves.

Now i think this conversation as someelse said should stay focused on the hurling, its anywonder our great chairman doesnt have a lot of love for this forum if the last few days are anything to go by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 14, 2009, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 14, 2009, 09:42:21 AM
By the way, we've worked out how we're going to beat the Dall.  They're training tonight - we've a few swine flu victims here in Turf Lodge who have just returned from the Gaeltacht so we're going to send them up under the guise of Sports Masseurs and let them cough all over them!!!  Then if our calculations are right, they'll have to field their minor team = we win (maybe)!!  Simple

Nah, the gameplan is there is no game lan apart from working away at our game we've played all year.  Go out and hurl 15 v 15 and work til the end.  That's our magic formula.

MR, that should be a fairly  handy fixture for you and i see that you are playing on the igger pitch on Shaws Road too - should suit you down to the ground.  Can't see any real upset in your next fixture either.  Th only ones capable of doing anything after against you are Carey i think.  They're one of them team who are capable of going out and hurling the balleeks outa ye or that will lie down but i doubt that will be the case if they get to the final.  You's will have way too much v St Pauls and Lamh Dhearg.  St Pauls have an owl Casemnet voodoo but i think they tend to overrate themselves mostly anyway and Lámh Dhearg only have the Herrons plus one or two others but nothing that should upset yous.  I know you'll say its all about the next game but the owl Ulster Intermediate Run and (hopefully) All IReland series will be great for your club if you manage it well and get all the kids to every game.  Class buzz, but sure of course yous know that with the footballing expediations.

I dont know about a few swine flu victims up at the Gorts Hatchetfield, but you certainly have a few swines up there all the same!  Does Terrible Reilly hail from Turflodge? A classic example of a 'Swine'.  The rest of the gort lads not too bad all the same.  Geordie Ferguson and the Mackles were a good bunch of lads. I see you are beginning to adopt desperate tactics just like your neighbours down the Rock road!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 14, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 14, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
I must say you sound like a lovely person.  Thanks for the many compliments you just paid us!!  Terry Reilly, our chairperson, who referee's and who sits on various county committee's voluntarily does hail from our club and we're proud of him.  He's a good lad who could be sitting in the house.  I think your the swine in this case coming on an online message board without displaying your name and calling people swines?  Catch yourself on ya coward.

Hardly desperate measures by the way - read the post again - unless of course you thought you were funny.  Amadán

Amadán, I don't think so! A good lad, well thats your opinion of course. Referee, Huh!  Do you display your name ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 14, 2009, 05:09:57 PM
What do people think about the iminent appointment of the new Hurling Manager.  The talk is that Cyril Farrell is going to take up the gauntlet!  You GortNa Mona boys might get a look in then, given that he hails from Galway. Baps boys and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 14, 2009, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 14, 2009, 05:09:57 PM
What do people think about the imminent appointment of the new Hurling Manager.  The talk is that Cyril Farrell is going to take up the gauntlet!  You GortNa Mona boys might get a look in then, given that he hails from Galway. Baps boys and all that.

Where are you getting your information from Queenie.  Are you in the know down in the big smoke at Casement.  Anyone else heard of this story about Cyril Farrell?  It would be great all the same, the present incumbents are well past their sell by date!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 14, 2009, 09:18:49 PM
Talking to the good Doc in a local watering hole over our festival, he tells me that is was discussed briefly at a recent Ex meeting and that the outcome was that it won't be discussed until after the u21's exit or win the All Ireland on the 23rd.
I think an outsider looking for the job is pie in the sky. Farrell is not going to give up his TV job to get shit on up here,for what £200-300 a week, no way. We are in the shit now, our stock is lower now than it was in the Sean Mc Naughton era, when cousin Kevin beat him in a couple of Ulsters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 14, 2009, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 13, 2009, 11:53:35 PM

As i hear it Fairhead, N Antrim didn't have much choice about accepting the DVD as evidence, the County Hearings Committee accepted it despite N Antrim's protestations.
You're asking us to believe that N Antrim (who had brought a case against a Loughgiel player, and must have thought he was guilty, otherwise why bring it?) allowed the meeting to take place and could have postponed it, but didn't out of some sense of sympathy towards the two players? Why be sympathetic to them if you believe they should be punished.
You also say that if they had seen the other dvd, its probably unlikely that they would have proceded with the case? This illustrates the careless approach of the investigation, ie that they didn't investigate the situation as per the official guide - no witness statements from officials, witnesses or seeking of other relevant evidence, never mind accurate documentation. On the with-holding evidence, why were Loughgiel not furnished with the clarification documentation, and the amended disciplinary report (containing witness statements etc) as per T.O. procedure? Also, why did Paul Gillan not get the DVD which N Antrim were using against him, as was his right? As i understand it he was given it and it was taken back from him, which isn't supposed to happen either.

There is an easy way to clear it up. Either E Hasson was contacted by N Antrim to clarify his report, or he wasn't.
If he was, then what i heard was wrong.
Imagine similar events happened to yourself or a player from your own club, what would you think?


So the case against the NA CCC has gone from lies and a probable 48 week suspension for a high profile ref to alleged carelessness! Quick some one phone Christy Cooney and Padraic Duffy; one of the units of the GAA has allegedly been careless in an investigation. This is new ground for the GAA; i dont know if it will survive as an organisation after this.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 15, 2009, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 14, 2009, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 14, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 14, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
I must say you sound like a lovely person.  Thanks for the many compliments you just paid us!!  Terry Reilly, our chairperson, who referee's and who sits on various county committee's voluntarily does hail from our club and we're proud of him.  He's a good lad who could be sitting in the house.  I think your the swine in this case coming on an online message board without displaying your name and calling people swines?  Catch yourself on ya coward.

Hardly desperate measures by the way - read the post again - unless of course you thought you were funny.  Amadán

Amadán, I don't think so! A good lad, well thats your opinion of course. Referee, Huh!  Do you display your name ;)

No and neither does anyone else on this thing but i don't come on here and run people down using their names like you did especially volunteers who are doing more than their fair share.  Leave it at that. 

Of course you don't come on here and run anybody down, sure how could a GNM Man run anybody down!  Volunteer, I don't think so, I travel the Length and breadth of the country with non payment, I may add.  can you say the same about the likes of Reilly?

Off to the matches now.  Predictions, GNM will beaten by 5 points plus.  Rossa will give our guys a good run for it but will prevail in the end.

Seomroga Abú
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
Gort na Mona 2-10 Cushendall 4-16. FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:22:05 PM
Latest  - Rossa 5 Shamrocks 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:23:44 PM
Rossa 0-05 Shamrocks 0-03
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:34:15 PM
Rossa 0-08 Shamrocks 0-06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 07:40:10 PM
Who's doing well for Shamrocks tonight? Stuck in house watching Ballamory here, surely the match has to be better!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 07:51:40 PM
How's it going now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:52:12 PM
Rossa 0-08 Shamrocks 2-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
Right? Who scored the goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:59:11 PM
Rossa 0-09 Shamrocks 2-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 08:01:36 PM
Right? Who scored the goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 08:04:10 PM
Sorry about double post,, is there a breeze?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 08:08:05 PM
Rossa 0-09 Shamrocks 2-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 08:12:52 PM
Rossa 0-10 Shamrocks 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 08:14:25 PM
Can't be long left now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 08:15:01 PM
Rossa 0-10  Shamrocks 2-10 Shamrocks down to 14 men. Carta dearg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 08:21:07 PM
Rossa 0-10  Shamrocks 2-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 08:23:24 PM
Rossa 0-11  Shamrocks 2-13

Full Time

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 15, 2009, 08:25:24 PM
Good stuff. Who saw red?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 15, 2009, 09:58:46 PM
I told you so, too easy for Cushendall.  GNM were good for the first 20 minutes and won a lot of great ball.  Cushendall class came through in the end of the first half, 1 goal and six points un-answerered by GNM. A real breeze for Cushendall.  Gort boys too fond of the drink, not fit and very slow off the mark, I think.  See, my prediction was right, 5 points plus.

Our fellas in the second half against Rossa, just moved it up a gear, Rossa were very flat in the second half.  Aidan Hamill was unusally quiet on the line, well I suppose you cant really shout at your son.  Connolly is well past it, even when put into full forward, Jesus christ, he was even very slow there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 16, 2009, 08:38:45 AM
Rossa  0-11 2-13 Loughgiel  Casement Park   
Gort Na Mona  2-10 4-16 Ruairi Og  Casement Park
 
Intermediate Hurling Championship
 
Lamh Dhearg  1-16 1-12 Tir na Nog  St. Teresas   
Clooney Gael  1-8 2-7 Shane O Neills  Ballymena   

Junior Hurling Championship
   
Cloughmills  2-13 4-14 Cushendun  Armoy   
Davitts  4-6 2-5 Mc Dermotts  Woodlands   
Rasharkin  1-13 1-6 St. Endas  Whitehill


went down to watch the Gaels v Shane O'Neills game (should we win today thats who we will get) and this was a surprise, Glenarm got two goals in injury time to win the match.
Match was delayed by 30 minutes. the match official (Owen) was late, tut tut tut
so hard to predict these games in the lower levels. Cushendun have been dung all season but have beat a cloughmills team that have been flying, Tir na Og were beat by Lamhs who have been in Div 3 this year (though i did think they'd win)

watch Rossa's second half and was surprised by how poor they were considering they had the upper hand in the first half. wind advantage in the second half and 2 up, i thought they would have pushed on and caused a shock. the Shamrocks had too many gifted hurlers and it seems and good talking too at halftime seemed to make the difference.

Was it good enough to beat Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 16, 2009, 04:23:34 PM
dunloy ballycastle match is off due to a bereavement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 16, 2009, 06:19:21 PM
Glenariffe 4-7 Sw 2-9 Half-time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 16, 2009, 07:36:21 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 16, 2009, 05:28:19 PM
f**k sake cut boys a bit of slack hey boy.  60+ boys went out and hurled last night, your predictions were right but sure who wouldn't have predicted what happened.  Stop your antics, not a bit of wonder noone likes yez

Yeah Queenie, you sure do sound like a bit of a prat all right! Wise up and catch yourself on. It would not have been too difficult to make the predictions you made about last night's games.  Although, Loughgeil, made hard work of things against Rossa.

Thanks to Miltown for posting all the results by the way. It's nice to be kept up to speed on the results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 16, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 16, 2009, 08:38:45 AM
Rossa  0-11 2-13 Loughgiel  Casement Park   
Gort Na Mona  2-10 4-16 Ruairi Og  Casement Park
 
Intermediate Hurling Championship
 
Lamh Dhearg  1-16 1-12 Tir na Nog  St. Teresas   
Clooney Gael  1-8 2-7 Shane O Neills  Ballymena   

Junior Hurling Championship
   
Cloughmills  2-13 4-14 Cushendun  Armoy   
Davitts  4-6 2-5 Mc Dermotts  Woodlands   
Rasharkin  1-13 1-6 St. Endas  Whitehill


went down to watch the Gaels v Shane O'Neills game (should we win today thats who we will get) and this was a surprise, Glenarm got two goals in injury time to win the match.
Match was delayed by 30 minutes. the match official (Owen) was late, tut tut tut
so hard to predict these games in the lower levels. Cushendun have been dung all season but have beat a cloughmills team that have been flying, Tir na Og were beat by Lamhs who have been in Div 3 this year (though i did think they'd win)

watch Rossa's second half and was surprised by how poor they were considering they had the upper hand in the first half. wind advantage in the second half and 2 up, i thought they would have pushed on and caused a shock. the Shamrocks had too many gifted hurlers and it seems and good talking too at halftime seemed to make the difference.

Was it good enough to beat Cushendall?

So 'wonder boy' Elliott was late, seems to be courting controversy a lot recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
Cushendall doing their usual stuttering through the early stages.

Loughgiel dont seem to have the heart anymore for it, when was the last time they finished any game with 15 players on the field?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on August 17, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
see Glenariff won handy enough against SW select 7.13 to 2.11 as expected.

We had a brutal game against St Teresas's total stinker, even tho we won handy enough in the end Jesus we were bad glad its out of the way couldn't play that bad again.  see clooney got a shock too, and st Paul's squeezed passed Carey Jesus they had enough chances at the end to win number of wides and kept going for goal and also lambs taking out tir na og. once lambs get a team out they are always good.  should be a mincer of a semi final st Paul's and lambs there certainly is going to be a few yellows and reds  :o :o will be an entertaining one.

We meet Glenarm in the semi even tho we tanked them last week don't think that will happen again don't think glenarm will allow that to happen again, think they just give up against us in the league, expect a much tougher game in championship. 

any word when dunloy ballycastle re fix is????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2009, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 16, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 16, 2009, 08:38:45 AM
Rossa  0-11 2-13 Loughgiel  Casement Park   
Gort Na Mona  2-10 4-16 Ruairi Og  Casement Park
 
Intermediate Hurling Championship
 
Lamh Dhearg  1-16 1-12 Tir na Nog  St. Teresas   
Clooney Gael  1-8 2-7 Shane O Neills  Ballymena   

Junior Hurling Championship
   
Cloughmills  2-13 4-14 Cushendun  Armoy   
Davitts  4-6 2-5 Mc Dermotts  Woodlands   
Rasharkin  1-13 1-6 St. Endas  Whitehill


went down to watch the Gaels v Shane O'Neills game (should we win today thats who we will get) and this was a surprise, Glenarm got two goals in injury time to win the match.
Match was delayed by 30 minutes. the match official (Owen) was late, tut tut tut
so hard to predict these games in the lower levels. Cushendun have been dung all season but have beat a cloughmills team that have been flying, Tir na Og were beat by Lamhs who have been in Div 3 this year (though i did think they'd win)

watch Rossa's second half and was surprised by how poor they were considering they had the upper hand in the first half. wind advantage in the second half and 2 up, i thought they would have pushed on and caused a shock. the Shamrocks had too many gifted hurlers and it seems and good talking too at halftime seemed to make the difference.

Was it good enough to beat Cushendall?

So 'wonder boy' Elliott was late, seems to be courting controversy a lot recently.

He was late for the Cushendun Cloughmills match I believe as well, leaving both teams out in the wind and rain for almost 20 mins. Match due to start at 7.15 and a friend texted me to say they didn't get going until about 7.30 or after.
Also (and I couldn't believe this when the fella said he actually heard this) - Elliot when sending off a Cloughmills player was heard by some of the Cushendun crown to say to the player "Bye bye XXXX, you knew it was coming".
A bit above his station there and not really in keeping with the impartiality with which a referee should treat the game and the players themselves.
Referees get a hard time and god knows I wouldn't be one but that is completely disgraceful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 17, 2009, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 16, 2009, 06:19:21 PM
Glenariffe 4-7 Sw 2-9 Half-time
SW stuck with Glenariffe rightly with the main difference being Tosh and his marshalling of their forward play. The SW boys had never played together before and neglected to work the ball into Philly Curran who took 2 smashin goals and had their FB well harrassed. Opting insted for a punt at a long range point particularly in the 2nd Half. PJ and a couple more of the Clooney lads would have been a big help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 17, 2009, 01:28:49 PM
i'd say the Clooney boys were a bit flat from the game v Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 17, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 17, 2009, 01:28:49 PM
i'd say the Clooney boys were a bit flat from the game v Glenarm
The Whitehill boys all showed up but I reckon the Clooneys got a wee bit ahead of themselves when they opted out 2 weeks ago, but there ye go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 17, 2009, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 17, 2009, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 16, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 16, 2009, 08:38:45 AM

Also (and I couldn't believe this when the fella said he actually heard this) - Elliot when sending off a Cloughmills player was heard by some of the Cushendun crown to say to the player "Bye bye XXXX, you knew it was coming".
A bit above his station there and not really in keeping with the impartiality with which a referee should treat the game and the players themselves.
Referees get a hard time and god knows I wouldn't be one but that is completely disgraceful.

I think the referee's remark was more to do with the individual players conduct rather than a vendetta of sorts.  He was already on a yellow card, was warned again and then pulled wildy across Rory McQuillan so Owen was letting him know he was gone...in his own special way  :D

Did anyone happen to catch what Henry Shefflin said after beating Waterford lastweek?  Telling reporters that he was going back to training with his club for their county championship...after winning an All Ireland semi.  Think if it was Antrim in that situation there would be any county championship??  Kinda shows the difference in the boards.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on August 17, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
[quote\]
Did anyone happen to catch what Henry Shefflin said after beating Waterford lastweek?  Telling reporters that he was going back to training with his club for their county championship...after winning an All Ireland semi.  Think if it was Antrim in that situation there would be any county championship??  Kinda shows the difference in the boards.


[/quote]                                                     kinda shows the difference in players attitudes too! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 17, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
Cushendall doing their usual stuttering through the early stages.

Loughgiel dont seem to have the heart anymore for it, when was the last time they finished any game with 15 players on the field?

I think your right NAG1 - Cushendall are hot favourites for the title again.
Not so sure about finishing games with 15 players - thats a bit low. Have the Dall never had a man sent off for 2 yellows?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2009, 10:09:52 PM
Everyone seems to be forgetting Dunloy...very quiet over there for the last few months & keeping a low profile. I'd expect them to come through against Ballycastle & then Glenariffe in the semi final. They had a good win v Ballycran last week in the league....they haven't had many players(2 or 3) at the county so they would be training away & last year would have hurt them geting beat by Loughgiel in the semi final. Dont take any notice of any defeat by Rossa in the Ulster league.

Cushendall will be favourites to beat Loughgiel....but this time Loughgiel will be the underdogs & this will suit them. No-one expects them to win so there wont be as much pressure on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 17, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 16, 2009, 05:28:19 PM
f**k sake cut boys a bit of slack hey boy.  60+ boys went out and hurled last night, your predictions were right but sure who wouldn't have predicted what happened.  Stop your antics, not a bit of wonder noone likes yez

Sure every body really loves the Johnnies, dont they, I dont think so pal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 17, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2009, 10:09:52 PM
Everyone seems to be forgetting Dunloy...very quiet over there for the last few months & keeping a low profile. I'd expect them to come through against Ballycastle & then Glenariffe in the semi final. They had a good win v Ballycran last week in the league....they haven't had many players(2 or 3) at the county so they would be training away & last year would have hurt them geting beat by Loughgiel in the semi final. Dont take any notice of any defeat by Rossa in the Ulster league.

Cushendall will be favourites to beat Loughgiel....but this time Loughgiel will be the underdogs & this will suit them. No-one expects them to win so there wont be as much pressure on them.

I think Ballycastle could be thre real dark horse this year.  Everybody seems to be writing them off, but they look like a big physical team.  Time will tell!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 17, 2009, 10:54:16 PM
Hi Queenie, FFS wise Up! Have you nothing positive to contribute here, whats your problem?
Hatchet - ignore the qu**r bollocks, he sounds like a disgruntled St. Johns person!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on August 18, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
anyone know wat odds the bookies are givin loughgiel to win the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2009, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: wino on August 17, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
Cushendall doing their usual stuttering through the early stages.

Loughgiel dont seem to have the heart anymore for it, when was the last time they finished any game with 15 players on the field?

I think your right NAG1 - Cushendall are hot favourites for the title again.
Not so sure about finishing games with 15 players - thats a bit low. Have the Dall never had a man sent off for 2 yellows?

Wino,
Wasnt supposed to be a low blow it was merely a question about when they last finished with the full compliment. My point being that with the two Campbells injured that they cant afford to lose any more players to suspension. Also the question must be asked about the displine of the team when they lose players so regualrly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 18, 2009, 08:55:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2009, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: wino on August 17, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
Cushendall doing their usual stuttering through the early stages.

Loughgiel dont seem to have the heart anymore for it, when was the last time they finished any game with 15 players on the field?

I think your right NAG1 - Cushendall are hot favourites for the title again.
Not so sure about finishing games with 15 players - thats a bit low. Have the Dall never had a man sent off for 2 yellows?

Wino,
Wasnt supposed to be a low blow it was merely a question about when they last finished with the full compliment. My point being that with the two Campbells injured that they cant afford to lose any more players to suspension. Also the question must be asked about the displine of the team when they lose players so regualrly.

i would have to agree with you NAG - not wanting to dwell on the sending off, but IMO it should have been a straight Red, but aside from that i found it disgusting that a large number of supporters applauded the player as he came off the pitch (this also happens im sure with other clubs)

on the championship - i think Dunloy are favourites in my book, not alot been said about them and they have Championship winning pedigree. Cushendall look stale and Loughgiel are missing too many players - mainly J Campbell.

im just hoping we finally get some good games - im out a fortune and havent seen a good game yet :-\  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2009, 10:12:29 AM
I hear the Ballycastle v Dunloy game is on in loughgiel on thursday evening now. I have a funny feeling this could be the game to start the championship proper. An evening game in North Antrim big crowd good atmosphere ballycastle improving should be good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 18, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on August 17, 2009, 09:45:34 PM
Were ya lining out tonight there Milltown?

i was lining out, bit of craic. no real problems with the south antrim leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 18, 2009, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2009, 10:12:29 AM
I hear the Ballycastle v Dunloy game is on in loughgiel on thursday evening now. I have a funny feeling this could be the game to start the championship proper. An evening game in North Antrim big crowd good atmosphere ballycastle improving should be good.
The town have been "improving" for the past ten years, but every year is another false dawn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: viking48 on August 19, 2009, 11:43:14 AM
heard glenarrife cudnt field a team against cushendall in the minor championship the other night ??? bit of a shame if you cant put a team on the pitch for championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2009, 09:31:12 AM
Anyone heard any info on the loughgeil pitch tonight I would say with the rain for the passed few days its bound to be in danger of being unplayable?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 20, 2009, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2009, 09:31:12 AM
Anyone heard any info on the loughgeil pitch tonight I would say with the rain for the passed few days its bound to be in danger of being unplayable?

been thinking that myself, alot of rain fell in the area last night in particular.

The problem is the u21's are out on Sat, our own footballers on Monday and the semi finals next weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2009, 10:00:31 AM
 Yeah the time contraints are tight, but even a possibility of a venue change to a drier pitch i wonder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2009, 12:10:26 PM
Where to is the problem. Would be too late to get the notice out as well. Think they'll play it regardless.

Putting a national U21's competition in august shows what considerations are given to the club game and player welfare for that matter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 20, 2009, 12:30:21 PM
Anyone know the throw in time tonight in Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
7
which seems a bit unfair for a mid week game even being championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on August 20, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: viking48 on August 19, 2009, 11:43:14 AM
heard glenarrife cudnt field a team against cushendall in the minor championship the other night ??? bit of a shame if you cant put a team on the pitch for championship

went to watch that one as I was down there, diddnt know why it was cancelled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2009, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2009, 12:10:26 PM
Where to is the problem. Would be too late to get the notice out as well. Think they'll play it regardless.

Putting a national U21's competition in august shows what considerations are given to the club game and player welfare for that matter

strange considering the football equivalent is finished some time in May if I recollect. Not sure of the reason but I'm sure it could be fitted in a bit earlier in the year.

That asides we got two valuable points against the Crans last night and what a shitty night it was, windy and pishy rain throughout. Our lads started to play a bit better as a team and worked hard closing down, blocking and hooking and generally showing a bit of heart, so hopefully they'll get a bit of confidence out of it and build from there.

Heard the johnnies took a bit of a stuffing from Portaferry, not sure how much truth is in that though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 20, 2009, 01:28:51 PM
I thought Big Magic did well last night. That point he scored in the first half must have been all of 100 yards. The wind was difficult and I thought that Ballygalget got to grips with it better than the Crans. Good enough game considering the bad conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 20, 2009, 03:07:54 PM
our game was cancelled. travelling across Belfast pick players up and head down to Clooney Gaels pitch for 6.45 for the match to be cancelled cause the pitch was clearly unplayable is crazy.

referee walked half the pitch before it was called off, it was that bad!!

difficult to get things going when the rain is this bad, Loughgiel's pitch will be bad enough. wet night might suit Ballycastle's bigger men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 20, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
any word if the match is going ahead or not, sure has been alot of rain today

also just noticed the Mod on that "other site" was as helpful as ever when someone asked the same question  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 20, 2009, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: Nemo on August 20, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
any word if the match is going ahead or not, sure has been alot of rain today

also just noticed the Mod on that "other site" was as helpful as ever when someone asked the same question  ::)  ::)

That fat bo****S Mathews (Ref.) will probably call it off anyway.  Is that the best weve got.  Whats wrong with Herbie or Wonderboy (Elliot)  or Terrible Reilly doing this game?  I think Dunloy will be up against it tonight if it goes ahead!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 20, 2009, 05:03:07 PM
Queenie O, Queenie O, where the F**K are ye o?  Very quiet lately, got swine flu or something?

If you are sick, I hope it is nothing trivial!  Ya qu**r bollocks!  You going to the game tonight? Stay well away from me will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
What's the story with the match tonight then? Game played or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 20, 2009, 09:23:37 PM
Dunloy by 3. Ballycastle had the chances to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Wasn't a great game with the pitch playing a big part in that. It's a bit of an old school pitch now. Too small and too soft.

Alot of breaking ball with no space led to alot of handling errors by both sides but moreso by Dunloy to be honest. Dunloy could have lost the game as only for a top class goal by Darren Quinn out of nothing in the second half to keep the town at arms length. They rained alot of ball into the square for alot of the second half and we dealt with it pretty well. I would say that Ballycastles forwards seen twice the ammount of ball as our forwards and that will have to be worked on.

Annoys me when you see a ref letting the game go on the firmer challenges (and your thinking great job - let it go) and then he gets really picky and blows up minor technical stuff. Overall he did alright
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 20, 2009, 11:36:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Wasn't a great game with the pitch playing a big part in that. It's a bit of an old school pitch now. Too small and too soft.

Alot of breaking ball with no space led to alot of handling errors by both sides but moreso by Dunloy to be honest. Dunloy could have lost the game as only for a top class goal by Darren Quinn out of nothing in the second half to keep the town at arms length. They rained alot of ball into the square for alot of the second half and we dealt with it pretty well. I would say that Ballycastles forwards seen twice the ammount of ball as our forwards and that will have to be worked on.

Annoys me when you see a ref letting the game go on the firmer challenges (and your thinking great job - let it go) and then he gets really picky and blows up minor technical stuff. Overall he did alright

I agree Skull about the pitch being soft and small.  I thought Mathews was a little biased with Dunloy and was hard on Ballycastle on a few occasions.  Ballycastle had their chances and gave it a go.  I think if they were a little bit more physical in the tackle it may have made a bit of difference. I see thon bollocks Elliot on the line, I thought he may have been sanctioned for his recent misdemeanors.  Mathews always tends to blow the technical stuff but thats his way of demonstrating his importance during a game.  He seemed to be very chatty with the Dunloy fellas also.  Just makes you wonder about his previous close associations with Dunloy.  Ballycastle will come good in the near future.  Dunloy fellas (stalwarts) are well past their sell by date.  I think the great Dunloy era is over now for sure. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 21, 2009, 01:56:47 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Wasn't a great game with the pitch playing a big part in that. It's a bit of an old school pitch now. Too small and too soft.

Alot of breaking ball with no space led to alot of handling errors by both sides but moreso by Dunloy to be honest. Dunloy could have lost the game as only for a top class goal by Darren Quinn out of nothing in the second half to keep the town at arms length. They rained alot of ball into the square for alot of the second half and we dealt with it pretty well. I would say that Ballycastles forwards seen twice the ammount of ball as our forwards and that will have to be worked on.

Annoys me when you see a ref letting the game go on the firmer challenges (and your thinking great job - let it go) and then he gets really picky and blows up minor technical stuff. Overall he did alright

He can never win. Can he?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 07:40:49 AM
No .... No he can't    :-\

Who are we talking about anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 09:39:35 AM
Thought the match was quite interesting at times last night. Dunloy seemed to be slow out of the blocks and this seems to be a triat of theirs. Once they got to grips with the game after ten mins there looked to be only one winner and bar a couple of way ward shots and bad selection could have killed the game off earlier.
In contrast to an earlier post, RM did his usual which was to keep the team trailing (i.e. Ballycastle) on contention with non-frees.
True Ballycastle could have nicked a draw at the finish but the Dunloy backs did a good job preventing any sort of shot on goal.
Like I said before Ballycastle have improved but they are short 3-4 players before contesting with the big two.

Dunloy looked a little slack in a couple of different areas, they are lose in the middle of the field and in the second half under the cosh some of their forwards went missing, that is something that I am sure that they will be working on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 09:53:13 AM
Interesting game last night.  Think it showed two teams on different points on a slope......Ballycastle on the way up and Dunloy slowly on the way down.  Dunloy just had that bit extra cuteness up front at times but Ballycastle were not far away.

As it stands I would expect Dunloy to beat Glanariff and the winners of Cushendall and Loughgiel to go on and win the Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 09:58:31 AM
North Antrim Gael

Where are you getting the confidence from that Dunloy are on the downward slope, just intrigued by this notion, I was looking at their team last night and the full forward line they had playing all under 23 24?

Plus Ballycastle only two threats upfront were cosy and pinkie both of whom in their last couple of years and as far as I could see they dont have another scoring forward to replace them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 10:03:12 AM
The average age of the Dunloy team is no more than 25
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mario on August 21, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
I have a passive interest in how the game went last night, so i came to this thread to have a look. You would nearly think Ballycastle won last night and Dunloy lost the way some of you are going on. Never seen a loser get more praise than the winners.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
[quote author=wideball - ffs ref link

I agree Skull about the pitch being soft and small.  I thought Mathews was a little biased with Dunloy and was hard on Ballycastle on a few occasions.  Ballycastle had their chances and gave it a go.  I think if they were a little bit more physical in the tackle it may have made a bit of difference. I see thon bollocks Elliot on the line, I thought he may have been sanctioned for his recent misdemeanors.  Mathews always tends to blow the technical stuff but thats his way of demonstrating his importance during a game.  He seemed to be very chatty with the Dunloy fellas also.  Just makes you wonder about his previous close associations with Dunloy.  Ballycastle will come good in the near future.  Dunloy fellas (stalwarts) are well past their sell by date.  I think the great Dunloy era is over now for sure.
[/quote]

Couldn't agree with any of that, well with the exception of the pitch.  I thought Matthews was ok but his tendency was to give Ballycastle soft frees at times when Dunloy threatened to pull away

I haven't a clue what your problem is with Shane Elliott, and less idea what misdemeanors you are talking about.  A hurling man through and through and terrific coach.

I'm sure Ballycastle will be thereabouts in future but people have been writing Dunloy off as done since the Athenry defeat in 2002, last night was a young team, only 4 players at 30 plus,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
I haven't a clue what your problem is with Shane Elliott, and less idea what misdemeanors you are talking about.  A hurling man through and through and terrific coach.

Wrong Elliott Max. Its ref's (linesmen) yer man has problems with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 21, 2009, 11:26:10 AM
i think he was talking about the linesman Max

i thought both teams where poor, if ever a day that Ballycastle could have beat Dunloy it was yesterday.

i think too much is being made of Dunloy's performance, they where poor imo and still won. they will improve for the semi and even more for the final.

as for them being Done, this is rubbish, one for sure (G O'Kane), maybe two are done but the rest are fairly young, they are still my shout for winners this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 11:29:12 AM
Just my opinion Skull I think the current Dunloy team is not as good as in previous years and I think that present Ballycastle team is vastly improved upon over previous seasons showings.  Dunloy won the title 2 years ago and were very close to being in a Final last year and would have provided better opposition than Loughgiel. I'm not trying to say they are a bad team.

I didn't seem to sound totally dismissive of Dunloy as I know on their day they can beat anyone its just my opinion that the pick of Loughgiel or Cushendall will have their measure.  That said if Loughgiel get past Cushendall we know their record in finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
I haven't a clue what your problem is with Shane Elliott, and less idea what misdemeanors you are talking about.  A hurling man through and through and terrific coach.

Wrong Elliott Max. Its ref's (linesmen) yer man has problems with

Skull, I have no problem at all with referees/linemen, just those who are not straight and impartial!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
I haven't a clue what your problem is with Shane Elliott, and less idea what misdemeanors you are talking about.  A hurling man through and through and terrific coach.

Wrong Elliott Max. Its ref's (linesmen) yer man has problems with

Skull, I have no problem at all with referees/linemen, just those who are not straight and impartial!

Yes, we've all noticed the campaign you've been championing since you joined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
I heard talk of a double header in Casement for the semis, a bit daft with four north Antrim teams playing. Could be bollocks of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
[quote author=wideball - ffs ref link

I agree Skull about the pitch being soft and small.  I thought Mathews was a little biased with Dunloy and was hard on Ballycastle on a few occasions.  Ballycastle had their chances and gave it a go.  I think if they were a little bit more physical in the tackle it may have made a bit of difference. I see thon bollocks Elliot on the line, I thought he may have been sanctioned for his recent misdemeanors.  Mathews always tends to blow the technical stuff but thats his way of demonstrating his importance during a game.  He seemed to be very chatty with the Dunloy fellas also.  Just makes you wonder about his previous close associations with Dunloy.  Ballycastle will come good in the near future.  Dunloy fellas (stalwarts) are well past their sell by date.  I think the great Dunloy era is over now for sure.

Couldn't agree with any of that, well with the exception of the pitch.  I thought Matthews was ok but his tendency was to give Ballycastle soft frees at times when Dunloy threatened to pull away

I haven't a clue what your problem is with Shane Elliott, and less idea what misdemeanors you are talking about.  A hurling man through and through and terrific coach.

I'm sure Ballycastle will be thereabouts in future but people have been writing Dunloy off as done since the Athenry defeat in 2002, last night was a young team, only 4 players at 30 plus,
[/quote]

Max, not shane Ellliot, but the 'Wonder Boy'  Owen Elliot who has been economical with the truth in recent times!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:26:39 PM
wideball

we are getting a bit tired of this personal vendetta your waging. Either spit out what you have to say and take the consequences or change the record.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 21, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
I heard talk of a double header in Casement for the semis, a bit daft with four north Antrim teams playing. Could be bollocks of course.

The old travel sickness, generally wears off within an hour from Dunloy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 21, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
I heard talk of a double header in Casement for the semis, a bit daft with four north Antrim teams playing. Could be bollocks of course.

The old travel sickness, generally wears off within an hour from Dunloy!

What is that even meant to mean?  You talk some serious tripe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:32:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:26:39 PM
wideball

we are getting a bit tired of this personal vendetta your waging. Either spit out what you have to say and take the consequences or change the record.

Jesus, your sounding like and Administrator on the county web site, r u a mcsparran or a quinn maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:28:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 21, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
I heard talk of a double header in Casement for the semis, a bit daft with four north Antrim teams playing. Could be bollocks of course.

The old travel sickness, generally wears off within an hour from Dunloy!

What is that even meant to mean?  You talk some serious tripe.

We Loughgeil people have no problem traveling to the big smoke, any place, anytime, anywhere!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
Owen Elliott IMO is one of the most up front, by the book people in the GAA who does tireless work in many roles within NA and Antrim and indeed beyond. Who would agree with that?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I would second that.

Wideball you have no problem going up the road its actually doing something when you get there that has proved to be the problem.

I am just a hurling fan who doesnt like people smeering a guy who is doing a lot of work for the county and our clubs by refereeing for an incident that is not clear to anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I would second that.

Wideball you have no problem going up the road its actually doing something when you get there that has proved to be the problem.

I am just a hurling fan who doesnt like people smeering a guy who is doing a lot of work for the county and our clubs by refereeing for an incident that is not clear to anyone.

NAG, fair play to ya, ur entiled to your opinion.  I have heard different scenarios relating to the Feis Cup incident and as I understand it, he has not yet been vindicated.

I think your comment about what we do when we get to the big smoke is uncalled for.  Sure, are'nt we doing our bit for hurling in N antrim everybit as much as Dunloy, Cushendall, BCastle.  It seems Dunloy have had the same problem as us when they go to Croke Park. At least we have an All Ireland Crown!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I would second that.

Wideball you have no problem going up the road its actually doing something when you get there that has proved to be the problem.

I am just a hurling fan who doesnt like people smeering a guy who is doing a lot of work for the county and our clubs by refereeing for an incident that is not clear to anyone.

NAG, fair play to ya, ur entiled to your opinion.  I have heard different scenarios relating to the Feis Cup incident and as I understand it, he has not yet been vindicated.

I think your comment about what we do when we get to the big smoke is uncalled for.  Sure, are'nt we doing our bit for hurling in N antrim everybit as much as Dunloy, Cushendall, BCastle.  It seems Dunloy have had the same problem as us when they go to Croke Park. At least we have an All Ireland Crown!

I see you have the mental age of about 7 wideball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:54:18 PM
Wow that will not help the relations up there.

My point was in response to this arrogance that surrounds your club which you highlighted there now in your anytime anywhere comment and you have yet to comprehend why the rest of the county are happy enough to see you beaten every year.

Should you not be asking the question after 6-7 years of trying why you are not getting the sympathy vote?

If you have heard different scenarios about the feis cup then I would advise you to keep your own counsel until the truth comes out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2009, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
I see you have the mental age of about 7 wideball.

How dare you - my young lad is 7  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:59:55 PM
If it is to be a double header then surely Ballycastle would be the most appropriate venue.  I assume the games are for next weekend as indicated on the county website?

Seen Joey Scullion at the Dunloy game on crutches.  Another injury for Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:22:48 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I would second that.

Wideball you have no problem going up the road its actually doing something when you get there that has proved to be the problem.

I am just a hurling fan who doesnt like people smeering a guy who is doing a lot of work for the county and our clubs by refereeing for an incident that is not clear to anyone.

NAG, fair play to ya, ur entiled to your opinion.  I have heard different scenarios relating to the Feis Cup incident and as I understand it, he has not yet been vindicated.

I think your comment about what we do when we get to the big smoke is uncalled for.  Sure, are'nt we doing our bit for hurling in N antrim everybit as much as Dunloy, Cushendall, BCastle.  It seems Dunloy have had the same problem as us when they go to Croke Park. At least we have an All Ireland Crown!

I see you have the mental age of about 7 wideball.
The Trusth hurts, does'nt it?  We are a lot bigger than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 21, 2009, 12:59:55 PM
If it is to be a double header then surely Ballycastle would be the most appropriate venue.  I assume the games are for next weekend as indicated on the county website?

Seen Joey Scullion at the Dunloy game on crutches.  Another injury for Loughgiel?

You are being very parochrial dont you think?  Afraid of taking a nose bleed having to travle beyond  Ballymena!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 12:54:18 PM
Wow that will not help the relations up there.

My point was in response to this arrogance that surrounds your club which you highlighted there now in your anytime anywhere comment and you have yet to comprehend why the rest of the county are happy enough to see you beaten every year.

Should you not be asking the question after 6-7 years of trying why you are not getting the sympathy vote?

If you have heard different scenarios about the feis cup then I would advise you to keep your own counsel until the truth comes out.

Do you really think we are looking for or need your sympathy, catch yourself on, we are made of sterner stuff than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:36:47 PM
It was in the year of '82 and the colour it was Red
Loughgeil boys were heading for Dublin, the Dunloy boys were still in there bed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
I bet the boys on the current team who werent born in 82 would swap that day for a day in the sun now, but keep looking back to that glorious dayand the rest of us will keep moving on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 21, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
Wideball you are a pure wind up merchant. But its getting a bit boring. A major success in the 80's, but its gone now. 20 years since your last championship and by the sound of your craic I doubt you were even born then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
I bet the boys on the current team who werent born in 82 would swap that day for a day in the sun now, but keep looking back to that glorious dayand the rest of us will keep moving on!

Yeah, and you keeping moving/looking forward to your shitty , dark, gloomy, rainy days in late September/October in Antrim/Ulster.  Envy really is a terrible thing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 01:51:09 PM


Cant wait to the schools start back to we get rid of this kind of crap.

If you have got an opinion on something related to Antrim hurling state it, other wise take your character assassinations and childish bullsh*t back to the HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 01:58:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 21, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
Wideball you are a pure wind up merchant. But its getting a bit boring. A major success in the 80's, but its gone now. 20 years since your last championship and by the sound of your craic I doubt you were even born then

"Of course I was born then, a day I remember well!
the Reds were languishing in Glory
and the rest were languishing in hell.

Sure the Seomrog's performed that day with great grace and guile
Dunloy, Ruari Ogs and the Castle, sure they will have to wait another while


One thing's for sure, we succeeded
Whilst the others have faltered and failed
Sure Dunloy had four stabs at it
And repeatedly got derailed

Like the Shinners, Toicfaidh Ar Lá and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 01:51:09 PM


Cant wait to the schools start back to we get rid of this kind of crap.

If you have got an opinion on something related to Antrim hurling state it, other wise take your character assassinations and childish bullsh*t back to the HS

back to the HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 21, 2009, 02:04:54 PM
FFS boys chill out, sure it's only a bit of crack!


You are all beginning to sound like the administrators from that other s(h)ite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 21, 2009, 02:27:20 PM
mad as a box of frogs with the lid on!

Any dates or times for the semi finals, hectic time for some of our lads with SHC QF on thurs, u21 AI SF on Sat, SFC QF on Mon and SHC SF on Sat/Sun. 4 big games within 10 days,

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 02:32:28 PM
I cant see it being casement the logical thing and that which would draw the biggest crowd would be to take it to Ballycastle. Double header, 5.00pm and 6.30pm to allow for the light.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 21, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
According to our website

Senior Hurling Championship - Sunday 30 August
Ruairi Og v Loughgiel @ 6.00pm in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2009, 03:09:49 PM
lads a Dublin,Belfast, Glenavy (now) referee is not biased!!!

answer me this, what does a referee get out of giving one team more frees/decisions than another?

when refereeing i could not give two Shites who wins, normally i don't like either team. so i couldn't give a stuff. same goes for all referees.

the amended fixtures seemed to be changed, we were originally fixed for the 4th of sept, now we are playing the Sat 29th of Aug in Lougheil. suits us as we had a few a away for the 4th ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2009, 04:03:38 PM
We have had various incarnations of people who, when it boiled down to it, had one common theme and that was referee bashing - and quite personal stuff too - so it would be no surprise if it were one or the same person again.

At the end of the day they do their best and deserve credit because they're part of the foundation of our association. They make mistakes but sure who doesn't...

I was hoping for double header in Ballycastle but perhaps not to be.

Loughgiel v Cushendall one weekend and St Galls Cargin the following weekend would be two good weekends of club action. Would also be good to see these big games in thr country too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2009, 04:11:02 PM
Be a good lift for the Dunloy club after a tough week for them to be given both games be good to see Cargin and St Galls up the country.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 21, 2009, 05:17:53 PM
Cant see the game (should Cargin Galls win there games this weekend) being anywhere else than Casement. Christ they have spent enough money on lately. they'll hardly let it go up north!!! 

i here the other semi final (hurling) will be at Casement, can Loughgiel beat Cushendall on a sunday night in Casement?

all starting to hot up now. could Glenariff spring a suprise and beat Dunloy? i heard the Dunloy lads were getting hooked, blocked and were running down blind alley's. things you would never see in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 22, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
NAG1  -  I've finally figured out who you are, and heres me thinking that you really didn't enjoy these types of discussion boards.  But by some of your comments, by how strongly you defend certain people, by your sarcasm, by your anti Loughgiel nonsense, its plain to see you are "the Fat Controller".  Wise up - people in your position should be seen to be neutral, yes support Cushendall, but not by using your position to only benefit Cushendall - you should represent all clubs in NA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 22, 2009, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: wino on August 22, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
NAG1  -  I've finally figured out who you are, and heres me thinking that you really didn't enjoy these types of discussion boards.  But by some of your comments, by how strongly you defend certain people, by your sarcasm, by your anti Loughgiel nonsense, its plain to see you are "the Fat Controller".  Wise up - people in your position should be seen to be neutral, yes support Cushendall, but not by using your position to only benefit Cushendall - you should represent all clubs in NA.

think you must have been on the auld vino last night mate,  just looked back to check your theory out and my guess is your detective skills are way off the mark.

also, if you narrowed it down by using the anti loughgiel nonsense, it would then leave every club but loughgiel - even including my little football  >:( club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 22, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Quote from: wino on August 22, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
NAG1  -  I've finally figured out who you are, and heres me thinking that you really didn't enjoy these types of discussion boards.  But by some of your comments, by how strongly you defend certain people, by your sarcasm, by your anti Loughgiel nonsense, its plain to see you are "the Fat Controller".  Wise up - people in your position should be seen to be neutral, yes support Cushendall, but not by using your position to only benefit Cushendall - you should represent all clubs in NA.

Well said Wino,we Loughgeil people need to stick together.  Plenty of sarcasim beeing dished out here ok.  Certain individuals sound like moderators/administrators on the County Website.  Once they are backed into a corner, they show their true colours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 22, 2009, 09:27:20 PM
Farewell Sambo, farewell Woody!  I wonder has McSparran spoken to Justin yet?  We can only live in hope.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 22, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
All Ireland Under 21 Hurling Semi-final: Kilkenny 2.21 Antrim 2.07 -  >:( Bollocks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 23, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
paranoia seems to be rife in Loughgiel Wino, i have looked back to see what gives you the impression that Nag is indeed my fellow club mate, and you must have been on the lunatic soup. This kind of post should really be sent into the good Doc to give him a laugh.
Anyway the  only club that thinks the FC is not a good chairman are you clowns and that's perhaps because he's the cheek not to be steamrollered by the Muppet's that run your club who will by the way will lead you into your 21st volunteerless season. The mans fair helped NA especially in coaching along with Seamus Elliott they are a well run unit.
Our lads are missing five from the team that started against Loughgiel in last years final for next weeks semi final (Beginning to hear excuses from OTM about all the players they are missing) getting my revenge in first. No seriously i feel we will have 7/8 points to many as the lads have trained hard this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2009, 09:50:32 PM
Who's missing James?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
is the dunloy game in loughgiel this sat night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 23, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
is the dunloy game in loughgiel this sat night?

Yes the Dunloy v Glenariffe game is on Saturday in Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:48:05 PM
sorry minder, i've a glass of wine in one hand. dunloy was easier to type. we are on before it, shane o'neills
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 23, 2009, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:48:05 PM
sorry minder, i've a glass of wine in one hand. dunloy was easier to type. we are on before it, shane o'neills

I have a fair idea what you have in your other hand........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:55:14 PM
never had the privilege, old English and two cans of beer was my teenage drinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2009, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 10:55:14 PM
never had the privilege, old English and two cans of beer was my teenage drinks
It's been downhill ever since. Seek help immediately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 23, 2009, 11:03:29 PM
i have, last night i didn't touch a drop. going for 6 dry nights, if we beat shane O'Neills i'm playing in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 08:37:52 AM
Sorry to disappoint lads but think your way off the mark there and if you care to check my post history before spouting such balls then you would know.
But then again that would take a bit of common sense which is sadly lacking in your area of the world!

Anyway,

Predictions for the games at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 24, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 08:37:52 AM
Sorry to disappoint lads but think your way off the mark there and if you care to check my post history before spouting such balls then you would know.
But then again that would take a bit of common sense which is sadly lacking in your area of the world!

Anyway,

Predictions for the games at the weekend?
Fair enough - I dont think he would be out of his bed at 8.37am.
Funny enough I'm surprised any of you are out of your bed at that time.
Maybe the kids are up watching the muppets!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 24, 2009, 02:40:18 PM
from county website

Terrence Mc Naughton and Dominic Mc Kinley, having completed their 3 year term as joint managers, have today tendered their resignations. Coiste Chontae Aontroma would like to place on record our appreciation of the efforts of both men in the cause of Antrim Hurling, not only over the last 3 years but over the last 25 years, and wish them both well in the future. We would hope that both men will remain active within Antrim Hurling given the wealth of experience they have to offer.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 02:43:50 PM
Dont think that is any great shock or suprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 03:04:30 PM
a thankless task, you've no mates going into the job and plenty of enemies when ya leave. everyone is an expert and none of them are as committed/passionate/ as you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
Seriously though who is going to take it on, dont think interest in the county hurling team has ever been lower, who is going to take on the task of rebuilding?

Any candidates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 03:30:01 PM
Dinny Cahill, Gilligan? Pa Joe Whelan (or his son)

Mickey Harte might be looking a job, or the only antrim all ireland winning coach Micky McCullough (oh he cant works for the ulster council)

Seamus Elliot Christ I'm running out of ideas. how about big Ciaran Barr?  doing well with the Dublin under 21's and an Antrim legend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 03:53:09 PM
MR hope the tongue firmly in cheek there, though  the loughgiel boys will be happy with either dinny or pa joe  ;)

SE wouldnt be interested and thinking even mentioing MMcC is a bit insulting to the post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 03:59:23 PM
totally in cheek, but its a sad state of affairs that we cant among ourselves think of anyone realistically looking to take the team.

stop you slagging the Loughgiel lads. check website there. still no official date/venue for Glenariffe v Dunloy.

i know minder said Loughgiel sat night but.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:02:34 PM
 ;)  HI MR, lot of talk in Casement last night that the bold CJ was bouncing a few cheques among his own clubmates.  That lad needs his teeth rattled if you ask me!

I see the old St. John's trait of adopting the dirt tactics was very evident last night in Casement also.  Three sent off, they are an absolute disgrace!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 04:04:36 PM
A loughgiel man giving off about discipline, tut tut
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:05:33 PM
Was'nt there some talk that Cyril Farrell was being approached, any developments on this?  He would be a good choice, McCarthy would be even better, but Justin is probably not that stupid!

What about 'Skull', would he be a good candidate, would he have the shoulders for it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 04:04:36 PM
A loughgiel man giving off about discipline, tut tut

Discipline and the 'Dirt' are two distinctly different things pal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 04:09:24 PM
Im not your pal and getting players sent off is exactly the same ragardless and loughgiel have no room to be running another clubs record down in that regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:02:34 PM
;)  HI MR, lot of talk in Casement last night that the bold CJ was bouncing a few cheques among his own clubmates.  That lad needs his teeth rattled if you ask me!

I see the old St. John's trait of adopting the dirt tactics was very evident last night in Casement also.  Three sent off, they are an absolute disgrace!

surprised at you bitting at bar talk. sure cheques are finished i'd say in most establishments. and i doubt your from Loughgiel if you were in Casement last night i think in fact your a WUM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2009, 04:09:24 PM
Im not your pal and getting players sent off is exactly the same ragardless and loughgiel have no room to be running another clubs record down in that regard.

Of course youre not my pal, and I am the happier for that.  Dunloy are extremely good at running other clubs down.  By the way, I was not running clubs down, just stating the facts! Them St. John's fellas - dirty = dirty kew tours!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 24, 2009, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:02:34 PM
;)  HI MR, lot of talk in Casement last night that the bold CJ was bouncing a few cheques among his own clubmates.  That lad needs his teeth rattled if you ask me!

I see the old St. John's trait of adopting the dirt tactics was very evident last night in Casement also.  Three sent off, they are an absolute disgrace!

surprised at you bitting at bar talk. sure cheques are finished i'd say in most establishments. and i doubt your from Loughgiel if you were in Casement last night i think in fact your a WUM.

Wrong on two counts!  I do hail from Loughgeil and I was at Casement last night also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Lets be clear here

Rebuilding "Antrim hurling" will take more than a good appointment at County Level.
We need an administration that takes on board the frustrations of the playing population in terms of the how club games are fitted around county preparations in May/June/July which means weeks of inactivity and then all hell breaks loose in August. Unless you are a dyed in the wool hurling man you wouldn't stand for that especially when you know the effort required from Jan/Feb time. We also need an administration that accepts that without improvements in the standard of the club/school game accross all county then improvements at County level will be a pipe dream regardless of who takes it on.

But we /they have a record of making the same mistakes and have this over inflated notion of where we should be on the hurling map whilst ignoring the reality that the foundations of the game are being eroded by the way the game is controlled by intercounty preparations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 24, 2009, 04:25:25 PM
Wouldn't know who in the county would want the job and cant see from outside of antrim who would it (unless there is a nice wage with it)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:20:21 PM
Wrong on two counts!  I do hail from Loughgeil and I was at Casement last night also.

Not too many bogball men from your part of the world wideball? In fact you could count them on one thumb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 24, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Lets be clear here

Rebuilding "Antrim hurling" will take more than a good appointment at County Level.
We need an administration that takes on board the frustrations of the playing population in terms of the how club games are fitted around county preparations in May/June/July which means weeks of inactivity and then all hell breaks loose in August. Unless you are a dyed in the wool hurling man you wouldn't stand for that especially when you know the effort required from Jan/Feb time. We also need an administration that accepts that without improvements in the standard of the club/school game accross all county then improvements at County level will be a pipe dream regardless of who takes it on.

But we /they have a record of making the same mistakes and have this over inflated notion of where we should be on the hurling map whilst ignoring the reality that the foundations of the game are being eroded by the way the game is controlled by intercounty preparations.

Could'nt agree more Skull.  But having the right man at the helm, without the county hurling/political baggage, in my view is also a must.  Having somone totally unattached to anyone given club in the county is a positive step in the right direction.

Bogball, camogie, hurling, handball.   I am GAA all rounder Skull.  But first preference, the small ball!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 24, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
From the hoganstand:

Sambo' makes a case for Leinster entry
24 August 2009

Terence 'Sambo' McNaughton wants the Antrim minor and under 21 hurling teams to follow their senior counterparts into the Leinster championship.

Speaking in the wake of the Saffrons' heavy Bord Gais Energy All-Ireland under 21 semi-final defeat to Kilkenny on Saturday, the joint-manager said: "It's not much use to win games in Ulster by 25 points and then be at the receiving end of hidings from teams like Galway.

"After 125 years, the GAA still has not come up with the fairest way of running its championships.

"With so many one-sided hurling games over the last few years, I'm scared for the future of hurling. It seems to be going in the same direction as the Scottish League in soccer with only two teams in contention every year."

Patrolling the Antrim sideline for possibly the last time, McNaughton added: "We didn't get the scores when we needed them and then Kilkenny opened up in the second half and showed us where we are.

"We had only one training session since winning the Ulster final at the end of July because the players were with their clubs and whoever is in charge next year will need to try to improve that situation."


Question;

If antrim were to go into Leinster at both minor and U-21 would they forsake the easier ride through Ulster, straight into an AI quarterfinal or semi-final as the case may be to get better competition in Leinster but maybe get caught short in an earlier round?
Can't see it myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2009, 04:49:41 PM
As much as I loved watching the Clare Galway game on Saturday, I do think that this is a crazy time of year to be having the All Ireland U21 championship. Would love to know how these boys prepared with their clubs/county at this period assuming that championships are bing run off everywhere.

Quote"We had only one training session since winning the Ulster final at the end of July because the players were with their clubs and whoever is in charge next year will need to try to improve that situation."

Would like to hear sambo develop that statement to understand what he meant. Surely he understands the plights of clubs preparing for championship along with the AC & Ulster league games fixed after Antrims exit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 24, 2009, 04:52:43 PM
I would think they would take it too be honest,

I think appearances in AI QF and SF at minor and u21 don't mean alot to most, when it took little effort to get there and little chance of success,

far better being in Leinster and being competitive in early stages with likes of Westmeath, Laois etc and building until we are regularly beating the Wexfords of this world before we should be faced with the cats

Moving to leinster at u21 would need to come as part of a package with improved club activity and a focus on our schools/uni teams. a bottom up approach
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingspeed on August 24, 2009, 04:59:29 PM
It's disappointing to see Antrim hurling slide further into decline but is a messiah at the helm of the senior team going to be the answer???  I think not...had Donal O'Grady or Brian Cody been in charge, would 2009 have turned out any better???

In my opinion something drastic needs to be done expecially in the city.  How many coaches are employed to coach hurling in Belfast's schools??  How many are there coaching in the rest of the county's schools for that matter??  I'm not sure of these figures, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to what's going on in Dublin for example.

In Kilkenny, if you go to X primary school you play for X club; if you go to Y primary school you play for Y club...whether you're from a rural or urban area.  I know people from the city will see this as a pie in the sky idea especially given the history and tradition of its clubs but I feel that drastic times call for drastic measures.  A long term plan is a must if antrim are to come out of free-fall...what actual plans are there in place for the development of hurling in Antrim as a whole??  I know in North Antrim a lot of work is being done, but what of the city??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 25, 2009, 08:35:32 AM
From last years team that started the AI against La Salle, Aiden Delargy, Brian Delargy, Kevin Elliott, Declan mc Killop, and Paddy Magill, all in my book as good as or as important to us as Loughgiel's missing players, Monty not fit to start yet but will come on at some stage. A few young lads will play who have played well recently. Looking forward to a good match.
The Dunloy match will be intresting, as Oisins have forwards that could do damage to most teams but their defence is not as good, Dunloy by 5. The Dall by 7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 25, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Lets be clear here

Rebuilding "Antrim hurling" will take more than a good appointment at County Level.
We need an administration that takes on board the frustrations of the playing population in terms of the how club games are fitted around county preparations in May/June/July which means weeks of inactivity and then all hell breaks loose in August. Unless you are a dyed in the wool hurling man you wouldn't stand for that especially when you know the effort required from Jan/Feb time. We also need an administration that accepts that without improvements in the standard of the club/school game accross all county then improvements at County level will be a pipe dream regardless of who takes it on.

But we /they have a record of making the same mistakes and have this over inflated notion of where we should be on the hurling map whilst ignoring the reality that the foundations of the game are being eroded by the way the game is controlled by intercounty preparations.

Anyone had any dealings with Ciara Ferry, not sure what her title is but she is a full time official.
I hear she is fairly switched on and was involved in Dublin development for the last few years which must carry some weight. New ideas surely????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 25, 2009, 09:06:24 AM
Quote from: hurlingspeed on August 24, 2009, 04:59:29 PM

In my opinion something drastic needs to be done expecially in the city.  How many coaches are employed to coach hurling in Belfast's schools??  How many are there coaching in the rest of the county's schools for that matter??  I'm not sure of these figures, but I'm sure it pales in comparison to what's going on in Dublin for example.


I'm not entirely sure how many full time coaches are employed in the Belfast area but there does seem to be a good few Belfast based coaches working full time for the Ulster council.
Surely these lads would be better employed in area's where they understand the territory and issues surrounding it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 25, 2009, 09:32:48 AM
Working with kids from West Belfast is difficult. even the young kids in primary school aren't motivated at all. Areas like lower Falls, Beechmount and Grosvenor road have social problems that hit kids from the age of 4/5. other areas like Twinbrook and Poleglass also struggle, parts of whiterock/ballymurphy are also areas that need that big push.

One club that tackles these is Gortnamona. its a community/Parish club based in Belfast. I'd say 95% of the players live in the Turf Lodge estate (Hatchetfield will correct me if i'm wrong).

the Belfast coaches you speak of probably find that its easier for them to work in rural areas that Belfast. having worked with kids in West Belfast myself for a number of years. i know what its like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 25, 2009, 10:45:05 AM
Community/Parish to my mind is the structure/mindset that Belfast clubs (whatever way it can be achieved) should be working towards. Any development plan should have that notion at it's core before any investment is put into trying to develop the game. Develop teams of kids who come from the same area and will develop the comradary and pride in their local team and then you'll have more of them playing into senior with a "could give a fcuk" attitude. Get impartial coaches into the schools which traverse various club areas to ensure they instill the technical aspects of the game only. How some clubs/indivduals could be convinced of that is another thing but that probably my limited thinking on the subject.

The areas which have social problems will lack leadership qualities within the adult population, so recovering these areas would take some work/partnership with all bodies and is beyond me how or if it "could" be achieved with the right ammount of effort. Probably not but that could be my limited thinking on the subject.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 25, 2009, 10:58:39 AM
a radical change is needed, but long standing clubs like mine wont buy into it. as Skull has said, bringing in the community/parish ethos is a route that may have to be taken.

Kids that live in a certain estate all play for the one 'NEW CLUB' they can have surrogate club that they play championship for and eventually senior (that should keep the bigger clubs happy). Coaches will have a borough to look after and they develop links with the schools and be part of the school curriculum. regular competitions between these boroughs and rewards/incentives whatever it takes. these teams should play/train during the school year

Once a child is hooked on Gaelic games then you have them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 25, 2009, 11:35:11 AM
As long standing as the likes of your club is milltown, do you not think the lack of support shown to the club game in Belfast in the terraces has been brought about by the fact that clubs have no allegiance to any area as kids are shipped in and shipped out. Only the die hards stick around. The current approach can't really be considered as the way forward. Change I'm sure would be very hard to swallow but I do think with the right considerations being taken into account that a new way of doing things needs to be developed by those who have the interests of the game at heart.

Would you not say though that in belfast at juvenile level that the interests of the club comes some way before the long term interest in the local game? If those hearts and minds are running the clubs then I don't hold out much hope of positive change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 25, 2009, 01:20:56 PM
Hurling Championship Semi-finals Weekend
Saturday, 29th August at Loughgiel
IHC Shane O'Neill's v St. Gall's @ 5.00 p.m.
SHC Oisin's v Cuchullian's @ 6.30 p.m.
(taille £8, concessions £5)

Sunday, 30th August
JHC Kickham's Creggan v Cushendun @ 1.30 p.m. at Armoy
(taille £4)

JHC Davitt's v Rasharkin @ 1.30 p.m. at Casement
IHC St. Paul's v Lamh Dhearg @ 3.00 p.m. at Casement
(taille £5)

SHC Ruairi Og v Shamrocks @ 6.00 p.m. at Dunloy
(taille £8, concessions £5)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!

I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!

I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.

Owen Elliot, the referee?  Who's your source?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!

I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.

Owen Elliot, the referee?  Who's your source?

A Shamrock. I thought it was common knowledge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 25, 2009, 10:02:31 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 25, 2009, 01:20:56 PM
Hurling Championship Semi-finals Weekend
Saturday, 29th August at Loughgiel
IHC Shane O'Neill's v St. Gall's @ 5.00 p.m.
SHC Oisin's v Cuchullian's @ 6.30 p.m.
(taille £8, concessions £5)

Sunday, 30th August
JHC Kickham's Creggan v Cushendun @ 1.30 p.m. at Armoy
(taille £4)

JHC Davitt's v Rasharkin @ 1.30 p.m. at Casement
IHC St. Paul's v Lamh Dhearg @ 3.00 p.m. at Casement
(taille £5)

SHC Ruairi Og v Shamrocks @ 6.00 p.m. at Dunloy
(taille £8, concessions £5)

What does concessions mean in English?

Hate that half-arsed shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Atticus_Finch on August 25, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
Anyone that deserves a helping hand and a bit of encouragment to come to a GAA game .... Students, OAPs and Nelson Mc Causland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 10:25:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!



I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.

Owen Elliot, the referee?  Who's your source?

A Shamrock. I thought it was common knowledge.
Not at home at present, in England, have'nt heard anything! ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 25, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
Anyone that deserves a helping hand and a bit of encouragment to come to a GAA game .... Students, OAPs and Nelson Mc Causland
And the Shinners of course.  And Terry(ible) Reilly also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 25, 2009, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!

I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.

What would he have been suspended for specifically? 48 weeks...phew. When I think of all the dirty slaps that I've seen over the years that have got no more than 12 weeks....it must have been fairly blatant what he had done and what his intentions were.
I still think he's been a tireless worker who'll be hard to replace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 10:30:31 PM
If thats True about Elliot. I suppose there goes his chance of doing the County Hurling Final this year!.  Terry(ible) might be in with a chance, but someone has stole his refereeing gear.  Quite a common occurrence up at the Gorts!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 10:32:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 25, 2009, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
Heavy suspension for Owen Elliott I hear

Come on then, intrigue us, what did you hear? Really curious!

I think it has been discussed at great length on here a while back. I heard he has been suspended for 48 wks.

What would he have been suspended for specifically? 48 weeks...phew. When I think of all the dirty slaps that I've seen over the years that have got no more than 12 weeks....it must have been fairly blatant what he had done and what his intentions were.
I still think he's been a tireless worker who'll be hard to replace.
He must have really cocked up to get that sort of a sentence!  Could'nt agree more Skull, a genuine good guy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 25, 2009, 10:33:26 PM
Anyone know who is refereeing the semis at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GaelicGames.In on August 26, 2009, 02:30:39 AM
Hi there,
I'm trying to put together a list of all the recent Antrim hurlers and their clubs. Can any one help by adding in the first names and the clubs? The list so far is on:
http://www.gaainfo.com/county.php?co=antrim

James   McGarry
Michael   Kavanagh
Noel   Hickey
D   Grogan
P   Larkin
E   Kennedy
Peter   Barry
C   Brennan
DJ   Carey
JP   Corcoran
John   Hoyne
S   Grehan
Jimmy   Coogan
T   Drennan
Henry   Shefflin
Sean   Dowling
Derek   Lyng
A   Cummins
A   Geoghegan
Patrick   Mullally
J   Barron
C   Carter
J   Power_2000s
S   Meally
Andy   Comerford
D   Buggy
D   Byrne
Eddie   Brennan
JJ   Delaney
B   McEvoy
PJ   Ryan
P   Tennyson
K   Power
S   Byrne
K   Rafter
Martin   Comerford
P   Sheehan
Richard   Mullally
P   Cahill
B   Dowling
E   Behan
Richard   Mullally
W   Burke
Tommy   Walsh
James   Ryall
D   Mackey
W   O'Dwyer
Conor   Phelan
M   Phelan_2000s
E   Mackey
J   Maher
A   Fogarty
James   Fitzpatrick
J   Tyrrell
Ken   Coogan
B   Hogan
J   Tennyson
C   Herity
R   Power_2000s
B   Barry
Eoin   Larkin
E   McCormack
R   O'Neill
J   Dalton
P   Cleere
A   Murphy
E   Reid
S   O'Neill
S   Maher
M   Fennelly
M   Rice
D   Cody
PJ   Delaney
M   Murphy
C   Hickey
TJ   Reid
R   Hogan
D   Herity
D   Fogarty
M   Grace
P   Hogan
K   Joyce
J   Mulhall
P   Murphy
S   Cummins

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2009, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: GaelicGames.In on August 26, 2009, 02:30:39 AM
Hi there,
I'm trying to put together a list of all the recent Antrim hurlers and their clubs. Can any one help by adding in the first names and the clubs? The list so far is on:
http://www.gaainfo.com/county.php?co=antrim

James   McGarry
Michael   Kavanagh
Noel   Hickey
D   Grogan
P   Larkin
E   Kennedy
Peter   Barry
C   Brennan
DJ   Carey
JP   Corcoran
John   Hoyne
S   Grehan
Jimmy   Coogan
T   Drennan
Henry   Shefflin
Sean   Dowling
Derek   Lyng
A   Cummins
A   Geoghegan
Patrick   Mullally
J   Barron
C   Carter
J   Power_2000s
S   Meally
Andy   Comerford
D   Buggy
D   Byrne
Eddie   Brennan
JJ   Delaney
B   McEvoy
PJ   Ryan
P   Tennyson











K   Power
S   Byrne
K   Rafter
Martin   Comerford
P   Sheehan
Richard   Mullally
P   Cahill
B   Dowling
E   Behan
Richard   Mullally
W   Burke
Tommy   Walsh
James   Ryall
D   Mackey
W   O'Dwyer
Conor   Phelan
M   Phelan_2000s
E   Mackey
J   Maher
A   Fogarty
James   Fitzpatrick
J   Tyrrell
Ken   Coogan
B   Hogan
J   Tennyson
C   Herity
R   Power_2000s
B   Barry
Eoin   Larkin
E   McCormack
R   O'Neill
J   Dalton
P   Cleere
A   Murphy
E   Reid
S   O'Neill
S   Maher
M   Fennelly
M   Rice
D   Cody
PJ   Delaney
M   Murphy
C   Hickey
TJ   Reid
R   Hogan
D   Herity
D   Fogarty
M   Grace
P   Hogan
K   Joyce
J   Mulhall
P   Murphy
S   Cummins

If only .........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 26, 2009, 08:15:38 AM
You'd wonder why Antrim never won an All Ireland with those players? A golden generation wasted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 26, 2009, 12:10:57 PM
/www.gaainfo.com/county.php?co=antrim


Eddie    McCormack Loughgeil shamrocks thirds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 26, 2009, 12:50:29 PM
Brian Mc Avoy - Loughgiel Shamrocks (Shop) Keeper
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 12:50:42 PM
Still no word on any possible candidates for the county job?

As for the weekends matches are they going to be as predictable as they look on paper?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 26, 2009, 01:33:45 PM
Do they look predictable this weekend, as usual i'll not comment on Dunloys game but certainly the other one should be a close run thing.

How are Loughgiel on the injury front?  I can't agree that cushendalls missing players are as important as the Loughgiel quartet that are rumoured to be missing

For that reason, and as champions they have the pedigree, i'll go for a dall victory.  Although with all the pressure off the shamrocks they could be a dangerous proposition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 26, 2009, 02:09:00 PM
Max, all our missing players are prov-en winners, that is why i believe they are as important to us as the Loughgiel missing players but i also can see your point because Loughgiel depend too heavily on those few.
I was talking to a county official on Monday and there is no truth in the Owen Elliott story, "he is not and will not be suspended as he has no case to answer". The officials are a bit peeved that Loughgiel have spun their version of the chc meeting which was clearly done to muddy the waters. Its very intresting that our undercover cameraman(anilis) hasn't been heard of for a number of weeks, if fact since he muddyed those particular waters. A useful Gael that boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2009, 02:57:53 PM
Glenariffe have had their league game against Ahoghill called off tonight, which should help preparations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Being a tad hard on us Loughgeil people, dont you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
Still no sign of the referee appointments for Sundays Senior Hurling Chamionship semis.  I hope it's not that
hoor Mathews or Duffy.
They should appoint Elliot and Hasson if you ask me, two pair of safe hands. ;)  And if they are really stuck, thay could send for the Terry(ible) Reilly one!  Spare the thought!  - His gear still has not turned up though.  Anybody see a Gorts many trying to flog referees gear around the Turk or the Rock?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:37:53 PM
The County could always re-appoint Jingo or Nelson?.  If Shane Elliot took it, us Loughgeil fellas would not get a look in! >:(

I certainly think an NA man would be better than a fecking SityClicker!  Could you imagine, someone like Sean McGuinness, oooh, aaaah, dahhhhhhh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 03:41:30 PM
Dont think so, where is the form that tells us that Loughgiel minus JC, JaC, JS & LW are going to be able to put it up to Cushendall? Having watched the match in Casement I cant see it maybe I am wrong but on that showing cant see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 03:41:30 PM
Dont think so, where is the form that tells us that Loughgiel minus JC, JaC, JS & LW are going to be able to put it up to Cushendall? Having watched the match in Casement I cant see it maybe I am wrong but on that showing cant see it.

NAG, dont forget, championship is championship, sure anything could happen on the day.  granted Loughheil were slow to start against Rossa, but Cushendall were also very slow in getting their act together against the Gorts.  Anything is possibible on any given Sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 26, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 26, 2009, 02:57:53 PM
Glenariffe have had their league game against Ahoghill called off tonight, which should help preparations.
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Being a tad hard on us Loughgeil people, dont you think?
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Being a tad hard on us Loughgeil people, dont you think?

Is there something wrong with you 2 (NAG1 and JamesH) - you talk steady about fair play and how you are whiter than white and continually have a dig at Loughgiel. Bit hypocritical I think.
You obviously have no real knowledge of Loughgiel Hurling - they have been a very successful club who provide the people of our parish with a great pastime. They help to bring our young people up as proud Irish men and women with strong traditions in GAA - much the same as Cushendall I would imagine.
As far as OE is concerned if he is guilty then I'm sure he will be dealt with accordingly, if he is innocent then he has nothing to worry about - answer me this, why are you 2 coming out in such strong support of him - do you have some close relationship with him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: wino on August 26, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 26, 2009, 02:57:53 PM
Glenariffe have had their league game against Ahoghill called off tonight, which should help preparations.
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Being a tad hard on us Loughgeil people, dont you think?
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 02:11:12 PM
Yeah JameH but sure they have been getting away with that kind of thing for years.

Who have you got missing for the weekend, if you dont win comfortably I will be very suprised even with the weather doing its upmost to make the games at the weekend a mud bath.
Being a tad hard on us Loughgeil people, dont you think?

Is there something wrong with you 2 (NAG1 and JamesH) - you talk steady about fair play and how you are whiter than white and continually have a dig at Loughgiel. Bit hypocritical I think.
You obviously have no real knowledge of Loughgiel Hurling - they have been a very successful club who provide the people of our parish with a great pastime. They help to bring our young people up as proud Irish men and women with strong traditions in GAA - much the same as Cushendall I would imagine.
As far as OE is concerned if he is guilty then I'm sure he will be dealt with accordingly, if he is innocent then he has nothing to worry about - answer me this, why are you 2 coming out in such strong support of him - do you have some close relationship with him?
Well said Wino!  Sure isn't this indicative of all that is wrong in our county.  Parish/club rivalry!  Can we all not learn from the Shinners in the big smoke (hypocritical b**tards).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
Wino,

The same could be said of every club in the country so dont be picking loughgiel as special in that way.

As for OE I havent any relationship with him other than to recognise the hard work he puts in as an unpaid official and referee in this county something that we are increasingly sadly lacking. My dig is not at the loughgeil club but when you and your friend keep putting them up there what are we supposed to do sit back and listen to rubbish.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:11:03 PM
Tis me Tis me!! I,m back.... wbffsr you have a problem it must be said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:11:03 PM
Tis me Tis me!! I,m back.... wbffsr you have a problem it must be said.

Wah, I have a problem.  At least my genes, chromosomes and hormones are all in the right place ya p***k!   Where have you been then, in hospital getting the Predictomy operation? So how have I the problem.  I guess you are a mate of the Terry (ible) one or golden balls OE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:11:03 PM
Tis me Tis me!! I,m back.... wbffsr you have a problem it must be said.

Whats with this Tis me, Tis me, crap.  I recall an eejit some time back using that opening line.  Sure it wont be long till you are kicked out again.  The sooner the better, ya queer ba*****!  You people should not be allowed on here anyway.  Where are you from, Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:23:40 PM
Ah Dunloy, where the women are virgins and the sheep wear the Chasity belts.  F****** Amazing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
 :D

Jesus wideball you must be used to winding up weins in the playground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 26, 2009, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
Wino,

The same could be said of every club in the country so dont be picking loughgiel as special in that way.

As for OE I havent any relationship with him other than to recognise the hard work he puts in as an unpaid official and referee in this county something that we are increasingly sadly lacking. My dig is not at the loughgeil club but when you and your friend keep putting them up there what are we supposed to do sit back and listen to rubbish.


Obviously, I think Loughgiel are special the same as you are special (licking many windows lately).
OE does a lot of work for the GAA but that does not mean that he can abuse his position because of his own (or his mates) personal views.  Let the powers that be deal with him because me or you have no control over the situation he has found himself in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:34:04 PM
I think you've lost it Wbff! Every opportunity you have a pop, why are you so intent on hammering people from the city and particularly Terry Reilly, like Owen Elliott he devotes a lot of his time in the service of the County, people like you just talk and assinate peoples character. If you are a Shamrocks man surly you would agree thats why the county lost a tremendous hurler like Watson, everyone wanted to have a go, and i must say i think last year in the semi at casement he got no protection at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:34:04 PM
I think you've lost it Wbff! Every opportunity you have a pop, why are you so intent on hammering people from the city and particularly Terry Reilly, like Owen Elliott he devotes a lot of his time in the service of the County, people like you just talk and assinate peoples character. If you are a Shamrocks man surly you would agree thats why the county lost a tremendous hurler like Watson, everyone wanted to have a go, and i must say i think last year in the semi at casement he got no protection at all.

Yeah smartass, and who refereed that match! Watson is a superstar, you are all in envy of his hurling skill and prowess.  Sure that bollocks 'Duffy' also sent him off recently when it was blatently obvious the 'Huns' were out to target hime in Cushendall.  He got no protection from him also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
:D

Jesus wideball you must be used to winding up weins in the playground

Are you being facetious Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2009, 04:44:39 PM
I repeat

:D

Jesus wideball you must be used to winding up weins in the playground

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from Sambo.

" Aaah, we got it wrong when we tried a few things, but the few things we tried did'nt work!.

Problem was, nobody fecking knows what he tried or when he tried it.  He did'nt even know himself.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
:D

Jesus wideball you must be used to winding up weins in the playground

Are you being facetious Skull?

Some of your previous posts carry merit, but where do you get off using that language, are you not allowed to speak in the house. What about Tommy Mc Intyre then, whats your opinion of him? Fellow clubman and all that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
:D

Jesus wideball you must be used to winding up weins in the playground

Are you being facetious Skull?

Some of your previous posts carry merit, but where do you get off using that language, are you not allowed to speak in the house. What about Tommy Mc Intyre then, whats your opinion of him? Fellow clubman and all that?
What language?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 26, 2009, 05:03:30 PM
I hear Dunloy have just recruited a new full back!  Caster Semenya, the only Dunloy player with a real pair of balls!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 26, 2009, 05:11:12 PM
god this is great stuff

really has brightened up my Wednesday afternoon at work.

wideball, was that text from Holywell - i think they are looking you back. ;D

any chat about the games, why not talk about teams etc rather the Refs.

someone mentioned Cushendall missing a few as well - who are they. should be a very interesting game, which i think loughgiel will nick it by a couple of points

Dunloy i think will run out easy winners on the other side (depending on weather)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 26, 2009, 05:19:37 PM
Irrespective of your comments wbfffs, i would love to see the Shamrocks do it, i think they deserve it and the club needs it, Shamrocks by 2 and Dunloy by 10 and yes lets discuss the teams and leave the officials out of it. Whats your prediction wbffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 26, 2009, 10:20:54 PM
just back from our local derby match with St Paul's at milltown, won the match 3-10 to 0-12. tough encounter considering we were missing a load. (we wanted it off for preparation for sat night) think a lot of teams got games off.

think if St Paul's put in that type of display against Lamhs on Sunday they could get to the final. St Johns have made it interesting in div one beating the Crans tonight.

Gerard Robinson did our game tonight and did well, looks like he's lost weight :D.  got most of the calls right (i did torture him a bit) and our lads have come through unscathed for sat night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 26, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
Gerard is  Johnnies man through and through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 26, 2009, 11:57:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
Hmm, who is his wife? Have I not seen his kids wear St. Gall's hoodies in Casement?
That was a punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael on August 27, 2009, 02:54:40 PM
  Bredagh Talks Sam and Liam-Wellington Park Hotel @8.30pm Thurs 3rd Sept
Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville,Radio Ulster's Lynnette Fay,Tyrone's Ryan Mc Menamin and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.

Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
5 to 1   :-[

I thought Bredagh were trying to promote the game in South Belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2009, 03:21:56 PM
That kind of tokenism really gets my goat, why bother. If they just want to talk football thats fine but why promote it as both Hurling and Football forum and then weight the panel like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nearlymad on August 27, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2009, 03:21:56 PM
That kind of tokenism really gets my goat, why bother. If they just want to talk football thats fine but why promote it as both Hurling and Football forum and then weight the panel like that.

          Taking the attendance at the Ulster Finals as a barometer.Football would appear to have a majority following of at least 10:1. The reality is that Football in Ulster is more popular than Hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
You don't say  ::)

Tell me what has that got to do with either mine or NAG1's comments specifically
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2009, 07:17:56 PM
lads if these guys had their way they'd get rid of our national sport. and the continual excuse that attendances at football games is higher is because counties up north don't promote hurling or the media pay it lip service on a Thursday!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2009, 08:34:11 AM
So lads, can anyone see an upset in either game, IMO Dunloy will probably ease past Glenariffe but not by as much as originally thought with the under foot conditions making for tricky conditions.

Loughgiel will probably make a fight of it to half time, dont think it will be big scoring either but I expect cushendall to win playing well within themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 28, 2009, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2009, 08:34:11 AM
So lads, can anyone see an upset in either game, IMO Dunloy will probably ease past Glenariffe but not by as much as originally thought with the under foot conditions making for tricky conditions.

Loughgiel will probably make a fight of it to half time, dont think it will be big scoring either but I expect cushendall to win playing well within themselves.
No. Dunloy by 5, Dall by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 28, 2009, 01:32:06 PM
Glenariffe have some good forwads but Dunloy will still beat them handy enough. I'd say 7-8 pts in it at the end.

I'm predicting an surpriset in the second match.  Loughgiel will finish with 15 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2009, 01:34:05 PM
Now that would be a suprise, anyone taking odds on it though  :o

Any word on a 'plan b' if the weather continues to be as wet as it it today over the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 05:41:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2009, 01:34:05 PM
Now that would be a suprise, anyone taking odds on it though  :o

Any word on a 'plan b' if the weather continues to be as wet as it it today over the weekend?

Two options:

1. Stay at home so you dont get your hair wrecked.
2. Buy an umbrella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on August 28, 2009, 01:32:06 PM
Glenariffe have some good forwads but Dunloy will still beat them handy enough. I'd say 7-8 pts in it at the end.

I'm predicting an surpriset in the second match.  Loughgiel will finish with 15 men.

It could be a lot worse, St. Johns could be playing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
I see the 'Terry (ible) one' is reffing the IHC between Shanes and St. Galls.  FFS, is that the best (worst) we've got?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
So you want the best referees overseeing the intermediate championship? That makes sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
So you want the best referees overseeing the intermediate championship? That makes sense.
No Skull, you misinterpret me.  Just appoint a competent and honest referee, who is impartial, thats all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 28, 2009, 08:57:39 PM
anyone interested in swaping two football tickets for two hurling tickets (all ireland).
just send me a pm

many thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on August 28, 2009, 08:57:39 PM
anyone interested in swaping two football tickets for two hurling tickets (all ireland).
just send me a pm

many thanks

Have you tried Noel Edmunds, Joe Kavanaghs?  Now what hurling person would want two fecking bogball tickets for two hurling tickets, are you serious!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 28, 2009, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
So you want the best referees overseeing the intermediate championship? That makes sense.
No Skull, you misinterpret me.  Just appoint a competent and honest referee, who is impartial, thats all.

Terry is a good referee, I've no problem with him refereeing our game on sat night.

referees don't influence games, if the game is close some teams my feel that certain calls go against them. does anyone think that a referee at this level cares who wins?

having managed teams for a number of years and refereed for the last two years, i know what its like. me personally i feel as long as the referee is consistant in his calls then everyone is happy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Spirit of 94 on August 28, 2009, 11:32:35 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 28, 2009, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
So you want the best referees overseeing the intermediate championship? That makes sense.
No Skull, you misinterpret me.  Just appoint a competent and honest referee, who is impartial, thats all.

Terry is a good referee, I've no problem with him refereeing our game on sat night.

referees don't influence games, if the game is close some teams my feel that certain calls go against them. does anyone think that a referee at this level cares who wins?

having managed teams for a number of years and refereed for the last two years, i know what its like. me personally i feel as long as the referee is consistant in his calls then everyone is happy.
Stick to the refereeing. Sounds like you're cut out for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on August 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
He is.

Somebody has to do it, and he actually does it quite well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Spirit of 94 on August 29, 2009, 12:16:47 AM
Didnt know his daughter was on here as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 29, 2009, 12:32:26 AM
wideball two football FOR two hurling

shithead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 29, 2009, 09:46:26 AM
Lads, just wakened up, late night too much" Amber Nectar"! Still pinching myself from info passed last night. I am a city man through and through, but to appoint "Aiden Hammill" as the new Antrim Hurling Manager is just absolutely ridiculous!! Its a joke the man is a Skit-so, and the North Antrim lads will and should not wear it. The is purely a financial based decision i believe, he cost nothing! Are we ever going to learn, we need to go outside and get what ever money can buy, the footballers proved it, and don,t tell me baker is not getting paid! Get Real.

Another year ahead of what might be, he is not the man for the job, thats it just plain and simple, MC Sparren needs a physic profile along with Hammill.

WBFFSR what your take on this, maybe you will leave the Refs alone for a while and get back to real issues!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2009, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: Queenie on August 29, 2009, 09:46:26 AM
Lads, just wakened up, late night too much" Amber Nectar"! Still pinching myself from info passed last night. I am a city man through and through, but to appoint "Aiden Hammill" as the new Antrim Hurling Manager is just absolutely ridiculous!! Its a joke the man is a Skit-so, and the North Antrim lads will and should not wear it. The is purely a financial based decision i believe, he cost nothing! Are we ever going to learn, we need to go outside and get what ever money can buy, the footballers proved it, and don,t tell me baker is not getting paid! Get Real.

Another year ahead of what might be, he is not the man for the job, thats it just plain and simple, MC Sparren needs a physic profile along with Hammill.

WBFFSR what your take on this, maybe you will leave the Refs alone for a while and get back to real issues!!!!!!!

is this true or did you have too much 'amber nectar' last night?

Cant see Hamill taking this job on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 29, 2009, 10:25:14 AM
Source is a good one MR, seriously i cant believe it myself, deal done a few weeks back, now that he is retired he has too much time in between physic assessments, so MC Sparren at KOC meeting must have offered the job, so my source says, who i think is a KOC and active in Club Antrim etc etc. Sounded plausible last night, he new too much detail to be BS******G!

We just go from Bad to Worse, what chance have we now, North Antrim will not like the Balloon telling them how it is, Hamill is a one man band, and won,t be told what to do as we city men know, MC Sparren is a cute Whore! Joe Edwards appointment bears that out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2009, 10:59:39 AM
Our game is off tonight due to a death in Glenarm. Arthur Forsyth (past club president)

which brings me to my post, why do we continually call games off due to a death in the club?

it doesn't happen in other sports but, happens in Gaelic games at club level. it doesn't happen when county players are playing and their father dies (happened last year) that game was played and a minutes silence was done.

I'm not being disrespectfull of the dead. me personally should i pass away I'd like the game to be played in memory of me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 29, 2009, 01:54:24 PM
If there was ever a cause to cancel a game of a death, its for Arthur Forsythe.

Legend of a man who kept Glenarm running for years and years. Served as North Antrim Chairman also

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on August 29, 2009, 02:34:34 PM
Couldn't agree with you more Colonel.
Arthur Forsythe was a giant amongst Gaels who kept not only his own club Glenarm running for years, but also North Antrim.
Arthur had a supreme knowledge of the local clubs in North Antrim and the individuals who kept them going. A native of Glenarm, although he moved to Kilwaughter in later years, he could be more accurately have been described as a native of North Antrim, each parish was that close to his heart.
He would often be seen at an under-age game in the glens in one part of the day, before being present at an intermediate or senior game later that evening. He bore no animosity to any individual or any club, and was responsible for many young men continuing to play the game when their heads were turned by other sports. He was vehemently opposed to the influx of alcohol and drug abuse in more recent times, two things which he rightly believed were eroding our gaelic culture in north antrim.
He was an ambassador for the glens, especially his native area, following on in the footsteps of the likes of Eoin MacNeill, Roger Casement, Ada McNeill, and Joseph Bigger. Without people like Arthur, it's possible we would be going to watch Dunloy playing Glenariffe this evening at Loughgiel's soccer pitch.
These people are harder and harder to replace, and remind us all of our own faults when compared to him.
My condolences go out to his wife and his daughter.
Ní bheidh a léithéid arís ann.
Grásta ó Dhia ar a anam.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 29, 2009, 05:31:07 PM
Hi WBFFSREF

FFS relax.  Do you not think you are being a little buit hard about MR and Reilly.  I certainly agree with your comments about Hamill, by the way.  A really biig mistake if you ask me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 29, 2009, 08:09:48 PM
Dunloy by a point. Herbie helped them out of a tight spot near the end by harshly lining Tosh and giving them a couple of soft frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 29, 2009, 08:20:25 PM
Sounds like it was a good game Tony any reports? Glenariffe must have given it a good lash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2009, 08:37:27 PM
Who won the intermediate?

2-18 to 3-14 is a fairly high scoring game. You'd never have expected Glenarriffe to go so close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wideball - ffs ref on August 29, 2009, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 29, 2009, 08:37:27 PM
Who won the intermediate?

2-18 to 3-14 is a fairly high scoring game. You'd never have expected Glenarriffe to go so close.

Intermediate postponed Tommy due to the death of Arthur Forsythe  (R.I.P.) - Shane O'Neils
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2009, 09:08:39 PM
D'oh - of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
I wasnt at all surprised we ran then close, Dunloy are now a pale shadow of their great teams. We should have beaten them but were up against officiating carnage from Herbie. Sour grapes it may be but we were so close only to be fcuked up the ass by him. Dunloy needed Ally Elliott to score a cracking goal near the end to get back into it, Ally is still a deadly finisher. Skull - where was Paddy Richmond?

Oh and how Tosh isnt deemed good enough for inter county hurling is beyond me. He gave a masterclass tonight whilst being double teamed a lot of the time. Thought Mal Molloy was a great steadying influence for Dunloy.

Sick as a parrot as they say..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 29, 2009, 11:14:58 PM
Plain to see that the winner of the Championship will be decided tomorrow. Some people will be thinking tonight that Herbie deserved his medicine after the Feis. They'd be out of order though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 30, 2009, 08:41:50 AM
all i have to say is hard luck glenariife, really should have won.

but imo this again shows the standard as dropped significantly and i expect tonights match to confirm this again.

i would still expect Dunloy to raise their game for the final as so far they have been bad and should have been beaten by two poor teams.

as for tosh, again he is now (our) county standard due to the standard being so low.

something really has to been done about club hurling, are the officals so blind to see it,  i wish they would just do something rather than blame everyone around them.  clubs also have alot to answer for.

please, please let my 8 quid be worth it tonight as all the dosh i have spent so far hasnt been worth it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2009, 09:34:38 AM
Quote from: Nemo on August 30, 2009, 08:41:50 AM
all i have to say is hard luck glenariife, really should have won.

but imo this again shows the standard as dropped significantly and i expect tonights match to confirm this again.

i would still expect Dunloy to raise their game for the final as so far they have been bad and should have been beaten by two poor teams.




as for tosh, again he is now (our) county standard due to the standard being so low.

something really has to been done about club hurling, are the officals so blind to see it,  i wish they would just do something rather than blame everyone around them.  clubs also have alot to answer for.

please, please let my 8 quid be worth it tonight as all the dosh i have spent so far hasnt been worth it.

You will have to explain that, I must have missed something this past 20 years. When was the standard anything other than "low" ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
will you be up for another crack at it next year Minder? would have been some final had you and Cushendall got to the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
will you be up for another crack at it next year Minder? would have been some final had you and Cushendall got to the final

It's a young team but I doubt if we will get as handy a run to a semi again. Young fella from Cushendall killed in a car accident last night outside Ballycastle, game later could be off if he is related to any of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:51:38 AM
read an article recently about the chairman blaming internet forums for the demise of Antrim hurling!!!! FFS what is he on about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2009, 12:19:31 PM
he was called Mark McKeegan according to BBC teletext
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on August 30, 2009, 12:37:43 PM


From County website:
"Due to the tragic death of Mark Mc Keegan,in a road traffic accident,todays Senior Hurling Championship game  between Cushendall & Loughgiel has been postponed"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 30, 2009, 01:30:51 PM
See Herbie is in for a bit of a slating from Glenariffe people.  Oh to be a referee!  WBFFSRef is right I think!

Poor Herbie, probably one of the better referees in the county, certainly does not warrant that abuse or criticism.

What have you got to say about that WBFFSRef?

Sad news about Arthur Forsythe and that young lad McKeegan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on August 30, 2009, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:51:38 AM
read an article recently about the chairman blaming internet forums for the demise of Antrim hurling!!!! FFS what is he on about?

What are you on about MR FFS, wheres the fact and the evidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 30, 2009, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:51:38 AM
read an article recently about the chairman blaming internet forums for the demise of Antrim hurling!!!! FFS what is he on about?

What are you on about MR FFS, wheres the fact and the evidence?

thursdays andytown news. he blamed internet fourms. not my words his, if you care to read it you might get it online
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
Will the postponement today be of any benefit to Loughgile? Getting players back etc etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 30, 2009, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:51:38 AM
read an article recently about the chairman blaming internet forums for the demise of Antrim hurling!!!! FFS what is he on about?

What are you on about MR FFS, wheres the fact and the evidence?

thursdays andytown news. he blamed internet fourms. not my words his, if you care to read it you might get it online
http://www.belfastmedia.com/sport_home_article.php?ID=1552 (http://www.belfastmedia.com/sport_home_article.php?ID=1552)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 07:28:56 PM
watched St Paul's v Lamhs in the intermediate semi. conditions were bad but Lamhs managed to win by a point in the end.

the game before it was the junior semi final, Davitts v Rasharkin. what a dire game. Junior hurling has hit a serious low.

rasharkin won through in the end on a scoreline of 2-14 to 1-1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 31, 2009, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: wideball - ffs ref on August 28, 2009, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on August 28, 2009, 01:32:06 PM
Glenariffe have some good forwads but Dunloy will still beat them handy enough. I'd say 7-8 pts in it at the end.

I'm predicting an surpriset in the second match.  Loughgiel will finish with 15 men.

It could be a lot worse, St. Johns could be playing!


We had a wee visit to rainy Corrigan yesterday and came away with a two point victory, 0-11 to 0-13. Poor enough fare but i'll blame the rain for that although some of our lads striking was poor including magic who had an off day yesterday and miss hit some fairly scoreable frees whereas Brian (what a tan!) McFaull was as ever faultless from the dead ball. Some of our lads have a tendency to give away soft frees especailly when their opponent is facing away from the goals, absolutely needless and senseless and worse still some were warned about it before the game.
Johnnies miffed at the defeat with Torney getting abuse on his way off with the immortal words 'I paid £3 in, I'll say whatever f**k I like' ringing in his ears.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
First of all my condolscenes to the friends, family & respective clubs of both Arthur Forsythe and Mark McKeegan,

As for our own game v Glenarriffe.  A few points

1. Glenarriffe did not deserve to lose the game and Dunloy did not deserve to win
2. there is no subsitute for class - Ally Elliott has it in spades
3. Tosh is very much county standard
4. Herbie refereed the game well, not many contentious decisions, Tosh had to go and both yellows were unnessecary and quite blatant
5. Dunloy will need serious. serious improvement to be competitive

Any dates on when the postponed match will be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2009, 11:56:47 AM
Max where were Paddy Richmond and Damien Mc Mullan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2009, 12:13:53 PM
Both injured, Paddy had hurt his back and Damien his hand.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 31, 2009, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 31, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
First of all my condolscenes to the friends, family & respective clubs of both Arthur Forsythe and Mark McKeegan,

As for our own game v Glenarriffe.  A few points

1. Glenarriffe did not deserve to lose the game and Dunloy did not deserve to win
2. there is no subsitute for class - Ally Elliott has it in spades
3. Tosh is very much county standard
4. Herbie refereed the game well, not many contentious decisions, Tosh had to go and both yellows were unnessecary and quite blatant
5. Dunloy will need serious. serious improvement to be competitive

Any dates on when the postponed match will be played

have to agree with all those points there Max

i think Dunloy will improve considerably for the Final

Any word on when the other Semi will be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2009, 01:25:55 PM
our semi is fixed for Friday night at Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 31, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 31, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
First of all my condolscenes to the friends, family & respective clubs of both Arthur Forsythe and Mark McKeegan,

As for our own game v Glenarriffe.  A few points

1. Glenarriffe did not deserve to lose the game and Dunloy did not deserve to win
2. there is no subsitute for class - Ally Elliott has it in spades
3. Tosh is very much county standard
4. Herbie refereed the game well, not many contentious decisions, Tosh had to go and both yellows were unnessecary and quite blatant
5. Dunloy will need serious. serious improvement to be competitive

Any dates on when the postponed match will be played
Big, big chance missed for Glenariffe to reach the final. A Dall v Oisin's final would probably have ended in a bloodbath though. Maybe it's for the best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2009, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 31, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 31, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
First of all my condolscenes to the friends, family & respective clubs of both Arthur Forsythe and Mark McKeegan,

As for our own game v Glenarriffe.  A few points

1. Glenarriffe did not deserve to lose the game and Dunloy did not deserve to win
2. there is no subsitute for class - Ally Elliott has it in spades
3. Tosh is very much county standard
4. Herbie refereed the game well, not many contentious decisions, Tosh had to go and both yellows were unnessecary and quite blatant
5. Dunloy will need serious. serious improvement to be competitive

Any dates on when the postponed match will be played
Big, big chance missed for Glenariffe to reach the final. A Dall v Oisin's final would probably have ended in a bloodbath though. Maybe it's for the best.

like the Cushendall v Ballycastle final?? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 31, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
i heard the lguile v cdall final was on sun 13th..bit of a joke that u ave 2wait 2wks for a re-fix,means which ever team does get thru has little time 2prepare for the final!....shud suit lguile down 2t ground tho!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
is that a defo date?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: Peggy on August 31, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
i heard the lguile v cdall final was on sun 13th..bit of a joke that u ave 2wait 2wks for a re-fix,means which ever team does get thru has little time 2prepare for the final!....shud suit lguile down 2t ground tho!

Two weeks is plenty of time, I would say Dunloy would prefer a two week wait as opposed to a month. Will Winker be back for the 13th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on August 31, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
thats the same date as the Football Semi Final Cargin V St Galls. Could this be a double header up the country??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 31, 2009, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: Peggy on August 31, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
i heard the lguile v cdall final was on sun 13th..bit of a joke that u ave 2wait 2wks for a re-fix,means which ever team does get thru has little time 2prepare for the final!....shud suit lguile down 2t ground tho!

Two weeks is plenty of time, I would say Dunloy would prefer a two week wait as opposed to a month. Will Winker be back for the 13th?

would tend to disagree with that, although the Dunloy posters would inform us better im sure

IMO after their two poor performances Dunloy will welcome the 4 weeks of hard training to get things right and to get players back from slight injuries.

is this date correct, i think im working that weekend, need to book it off then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2009, 04:45:03 PM
Im not sure you will see a huge improvement from Dunloy, going on the Ballycastle and Glenariffe games I just don't think they have the players to beat Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on August 31, 2009, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2009, 04:45:03 PM
Im not sure you will see a huge improvement from Dunloy, going on the Ballycastle and Glenariffe games I just don't think they have the players to beat Cushendall.

thats if it is Cushendall, ive a feeling Loughgiel might sneak that semi.

but i dont think Dunloy will play as badly in the Final as they have the last two games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cannon Fodder on August 31, 2009, 06:07:26 PM
Shamrocks have been poor all season, no evidence of them having the fire power to take out the reigning Champions Cushendall. Bringing back the prodical son would only upset the applecart me thinks ???

From watching the opening rounds of the championship it is the Ruairi`s to loose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2009, 09:07:35 PM
Glenariffe beat Clooney Gaels 3-28 to 2-6 tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 31, 2009, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: Queenie on August 30, 2009, 01:33:44 PM
Quote from: milltown row on August 30, 2009, 10:51:38 AM
read an article recently about the chairman blaming internet forums for the demise of Antrim hurling!!!! FFS what is he on about?

What are you on about MR FFS, wheres the fact and the evidence?

thursdays andytown news. he blamed internet fourms. not my words his, if you care to read it you might get it online
http://www.belfastmedia.com/sport_home_article.php?ID=1552 (http://www.belfastmedia.com/sport_home_article.php?ID=1552)


For an educated man, the good doctor sometimes comes across as an awful tom fool.

This is another such occasion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 31, 2009, 11:23:59 PM
that date hasnt been confirmed, its jus the word thats circulating at the min!
the title is def cdall's to loose but at the same time they only ave half a team compared to the startin 15 in the 08 final, theres jus more chat about lguiles missing foe than there is of cdalls, would b a tough call 2predict a winner!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on August 31, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
winkers suspension is up on sunday comin if it wasnt already appealed n dropped.....read my last msg bk after posting it, sounded a bit harsh....wot i meant was cdall are missin half the team that started in last years final......ave sum good young boys comin thru n playin well..i didnt mean 2b disrespectful 2 any of the players in any way.... b4 sum1 is ready 2hang, draw n quarter me!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
Peggy any chance we could leave the txt speak for the HS?

I think it would be a disgrace if this fixture is not played at the weekend, simply to suit all the officials yearly gravy trip to croke park for the weekend. Get it played on the saturday evening whereever.

As for LW's suspension as he was sent off in the championship he automatically misses the next game in said competition so it doesnt matter when the game is played in that regard.

The other semi final was a drab enough affair but if you take it that dunloy were 9 points up in the first half and then conceded what they would feel were 3 sloppy goals that would be an 18 point swing in my calculations. Fair play to Glenarrife for putting it up to them but I would say the bell is being rung to early on this Dunloy team. Still would have Cushendall as good favourites for the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 01, 2009, 09:14:44 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
Peggy any chance we could leave the txt speak for the HS?

I think it would be a disgrace if this fixture is not played at the weekend, simply to suit all the officials yearly gravy trip to croke park for the weekend. Get it played on the saturday evening whereever.

As for LW's suspension as he was sent off in the championship he automatically misses the next game in said competition so it doesnt matter when the game is played in that regard.

The other semi final was a drab enough affair but if you take it that dunloy were 9 points up in the first half and then conceded what they would feel were 3 sloppy goals that would be an 18 point swing in my calculations. Fair play to Glenarrife for putting it up to them but I would say the bell is being rung to early on this Dunloy team. Still would have Cushendall as good favourites for the title.

With regards Winkers suspension, he missed the Rossa game so I would imagine if the Cushendall game is not played this week he will be eligible to play.  Can't see the game taking place this weekend at all as the amunt of people who will have made plans for trips to the All Ireland wouldn't justify having it.  I'm sure both clubs have a few players away.  I'd say the following week is more likely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 09:26:41 AM
We cant start organising our championship around who has booked a weekend away, it could be played on the friday evening or on the saturday and still give people time to do their own thing.

I have to say if I was directly involved I would be looking to have it played this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 01, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
Would have to agree that i believe it should have to be played this week, i thought all these games allowed for draws and already had replay dates set aside.  Perhaps this replay date was for Wednesday and circumstances may not have allowed for the game to take place on this night.

It should fall in the next available night which would be Thurs/Fri.  However if it was put back 2 weeks it would allow both teams more time to get injured players back and could prove to be a belter of a game.

One thing i can't understand is that 2 games where called off over the weekend and yet one was refixed very promptly yet the other needs to go to County Board meeting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 01, 2009, 09:49:04 AM
Never twigged onto that Max, does seem strange why one game can be fixed so quickly yet the other cant.

anyone any good contacts to find out whats going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 09:52:52 AM
apparently the county wanted to fix the game for friday night in ballycaslte but lguile said that if the fixture was to go ahead they wouldnt be turning up as they have a player away somewhere so there is a dispute over when it will be..hence the meeting!

Cushendall have players away the following week to as it was supposed to be a fixture free date, the game could have been played tomorrow night as young Marks burial is tomorrow morning but then you have to take into consideration that there are alot of players which will be effected by his loss so maybe tomorrow night wouldnt be fair to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 01, 2009, 09:57:22 AM
think it would be asking a bit much of cushendall to play on a wednesday night after just coming from a funeral of a clubman, for me it was Thurs or Fri night as recently happened with our own club, i would take it too Casement as the evening light is dissapearing fast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 10:07:14 AM
have to agree maxpower but god only knows what the county will come up with at the meeting, i personally think its a disgrace if its not played this week/weekend.  Winker is back for this weekend anyway. so he must have got his suspension dropped as it wasn't up until sunday..beats me how one club can get so many suspensions lifted in such a short period of time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 01, 2009, 10:12:18 AM
i agree thats its a disgrace if its not played Thurs, Fri or Sat

as for L Watson, he was sent off on a sat, does his suspension end on the Fri night then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 10:15:28 AM
winker was sent of on a sunday so his suspension shouldnt have been up until 12o'clock saturday night but all the lguile people are saying he's already back so im assuming his suspension has been lifted if this is the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 01, 2009, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 10:15:28 AM
winker was sent of on a sunday so his suspension shouldnt have been up until 12o'clock saturday night but all the lguile people are saying he's already back so im assuming his suspension has been lifted if this is the case.

yeah, your right, i was getting mixed up with the castle - n antrim game which was on the saturday.

didnt hear anything about it being up though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 10:27:12 AM
it was apparently up on appeal the tues/wed night after the rossa game???? not sure for def


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
Well either way if he plays or not I still dont see them having enough to get close to Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on September 01, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
i think the lguile team play better without him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 01, 2009, 02:18:14 PM
no reason why we can play at 7pm on friday night and Cushendall and Loughgiel play at 8.30 on after us in Casement. would be a good double bill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 01, 2009, 02:19:59 PM
would be the way to do it MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 01, 2009, 02:26:53 PM
would that be too easy? Ladies football finals on thursday at Casement thats why that dates not available
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
Friday is the best solution then for everyone, good double header and everyone can leave casement for the weekend in Dublin straight after.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 01, 2009, 03:03:46 PM
just heard the Creggan Johnnies minor match is before ours!!

Cushendall Loughgiel wont be able to be played at Casement. Ballycastle on Saturday evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2009, 03:04:42 PM
why would it be changed from the original venue if it is going to be played on saturday afternoon in North Antrim MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 01, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Has it been set for this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 01, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 01, 2009, 03:32:59 PM
Has it been set for this weekend
The county are meeting tonight to decide according to the county website. I'd say they'll arrange it for the 13th..its the easy option for them but not the right option. All the suggestions on here the most logical but that means nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: viking48 on September 02, 2009, 12:44:17 AM
word from the meeting is that the match is set for the 13th. apparently it went to a vote. must of been a Loughgiel fan who got the deciding vote  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 02, 2009, 07:08:13 AM
Winker got 4 weeks, which is up this Saturday night. Striking with minimal force i was told which comes with a 4 week ban. So he will have served the full by Saturday, glad he will be back should make more of a match of it for the Dall lads. What about JC is he back? WBFFSR whats the story in the camp, have,nt heard from you in a while? R U still with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2009, 07:18:09 AM
Quote from: viking48 on September 02, 2009, 12:44:17 AM
word from the meeting is that the match is set for the 13th. apparently it went to a vote. must of been a Loughgiel fan who got the deciding vote  :D

Surprisingly Loughgile wanted to play it last weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 02, 2009, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 02, 2009, 12:12:48 PM
So who do you all think will be taking the tumble out of Division 1 this year? 

Glenarrife look dead set to go up, although at long last Rossa seem to be getting their act together again. I dont think that we'll go up - not strong enough yet throughout in terms of attitude and commitment although i would love us to cuz we would have quite few players able to hold thei own up there!

How's things going with youselves MR?  Must be difficult for ya at he minute with the football.  Although the intermediate run (into ulster and all that) must provide a bit of incentive.

what run!!! haven't even played Glenarm yet. we are struggling at the hurling due to injuries and lads away. 5 starting players missing for friday night!! i'll be happy with a 1 point win. Glenarm may be the whipping boys of that div but i watched them against Clooney Gaels and they managed to stay with them and knock them out with two lates goals.

Footballers looking forward to the Cargin game and it should be a battle royal. training sessions have been hectic for the lads due to a lot of dual players but sure what can ya do!!  will give it a lash and see what happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2009, 01:16:37 PM
We are in a strong position but our fellas won't be training much now for the rest of the season, the table is also slightly misleading. It has us down as drawn a game, but that was a match with Glenarm that was postponed and will have to be played again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 02, 2009, 02:08:43 PM
OK so the match is fixed for Sun the 13th, no point complaining anymore, but what is ridiculous is that they can say we'll fix the game for the 13th but not giving a venue or time?

ok sure there's no point telling anyone yet where it is or what time it is. Sure we'll let them wait a while?? How can they not fix it all at the one time?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 02, 2009, 02:35:39 PM
i believe Doc John isnt flavour of the month down in cushendall, not with the fact the match is now on the 13th, just the way it was handled.

only for the chairmans & or an unknown executive members intervention the match would have been this Friday.

the person i was talking too didnt go into any further details.

on the date of the match, i think this will benefit Loughgiel and still go with my prediction that loughgiel will win.

Colonel - any more info?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 02, 2009, 03:13:17 PM
Surely with it being a refixed game it will be back in Dunloy, think it'd be good for our club to host a big game like this and would be the best place to generate a big crowd, that is if our pitch is in good enough shape to hold it.

I think the additional 2 weeks will be a big bonus to Loughgiel who will have a couple if not all there absentee's back, but Cushendall have been saying they where to be light for last weekend too so perhaps both teams will be stronger.

My gut still tells me Cushendall, they just seem to have a defence that can suffocate Loughgiel (and most teams) forward unit, but very much a 50:50 game now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2009, 03:19:49 PM
Dont see where the 50:50 is coming from Max to be honest. I think Cushendall will beat them comfortably. Look at each line and match up the players and it starts to get very worrying for Loughgiel.

Your right Dunloy would be the best place for it, would generate a better championship atmosphere for the game than the other options.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 02, 2009, 04:58:26 PM
Name : The Colonel02 September 2009Why was the time and venue not made available for the Loughgile v Cushendall game?

Obviously becuase that has not been decided yet. Perhaps other things need to be considered such as whether a double header could be held with this game depending on other results or what other games might be on at this date etc, etc. It seems that you prefer to assume that some underhand activity is ongoing here - when there isn't.


Just noticed this on the county website

obviously someone has read my previous post on here and put a query to the website. This isn't the first time in the last number of weeks a post has been put on from 'The Colonel', but it certainly wasn't myself!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 02, 2009, 06:56:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

i know the man well Minder, he's alright :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
You obviously don't know him well enough milltown.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 02, 2009, 08:06:09 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 02, 2009, 04:58:26 PM
Name : The Colonel02 September 2009Why was the time and venue not made available for the Loughgile v Cushendall game?

Obviously becuase that has not been decided yet. Perhaps other things need to be considered such as whether a double header could be held with this game depending on other results or what other games might be on at this date etc, etc. It seems that you prefer to assume that some underhand activity is ongoing here - when there isn't.


Just noticed this on the county website

obviously someone has read my previous post on here and put a query to the website. This isn't the first time in the last number of weeks a post has been put on from 'The Colonel', but it certainly wasn't myself!!

The tone of that answer is terrible. Does this happen with other county boards on their forums?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 02, 2009, 08:24:57 PM
The attitude of the Mods on that guest book stinks and there really is no need for it. If they don't like what someone contributes they don't post it anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2009, 08:35:37 PM
Whoever moderates that site is an idiot. They have absolutely no manners.

I'm pretty sure they also post here. They avoid this page mostly though.

Every question is obviously a conspiracy. Judging by McSparran's speel he's just as bad.

Are some people on a discussion forum not allowed to discuss things??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 02, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
apparently not cause ya's do Fcuk all but sit behind computers and talk shite!!!

anyway, what a bollix of a night weather wise. cant see our game going ahead on friday night with the amount of rain that has fallen. the Johnnies play Creggan before our game and our ladies team play St Pauls on the thursday night, intermed. final. junior game may also be on before that!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2009, 09:22:20 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 02, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
apparently not cause ya's do Fcuk all but sit behind computers and talk shite!!!

anyway, what a bollix of a night weather wise. cant see our game going ahead on friday night with the amount of rain that has fallen. the Johnnies play Creggan before our game and our ladies team play St Pauls on the thursday night, intermed. final. junior game may also be on before that!!!

Our game with the Ports went ahead last night, pitch wasn't great and it rained incessantly throughout, Ports got two soft goals in the first half to open up a bit of a lead but we finally levelled nearing the end with the light failing very badly. You could argue that Owen Elliott blew it up early with possibly a few minutes still remaining due to injuries and what not and as we were certainly in the ascendency at that point but it was just too dark and he did the right thing IMO.
final core 2-6 to 0-12.
Surely this has to be the end of the evening fixtures as it was pitch black at 8.30pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
So is there still no definite date for the semi final yet then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rashCharacter on September 03, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
I'd say the Communications and PR committe, listed on the Antrim site would give a good indication as to who is writing the ridiculous moderator posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 03, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on September 03, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
I'd say the Communications and PR committe, listed on the Antrim site would give a good indication as to who is writing the ridiculous moderator posts.
Throw off your high cloak of anonymity rashcharacter. You are simply a demagogue who has nothing to offer the GAA.

See the board got an official mention on county board dispatches today...

Name : Peter Lavery03 September 2009

While i agree that this stuff needs to be challenged, i do have to agree with the previous poster. Often, some innocent, non-vitriolic, genuine questions are asked on this thing nd they are answeered in a cheeky manner and i think the previous poster is right in that this further enhances the 'us and them' mentality. However, in terms of the lambasters and the energy sappers, i think you're right - in fact i wouldn't give them any web space at all!!

I think also that sometimes we can be in danger of suggesting that all who participate in online forums are lumped in with the same crowd when this is simply not tue.

Website discussion forums are a dime a dozen now and are very popular all around the world - obviously people like discussing stuff!! As a regular enough contributor to the gaaboard.com, i find it mostly friendly, curteous, informative and very interesting. We get the chance to discuss what matters most to our hearts with other Gaels. In my case and in a lot of others' cases, you are talking about the heart and soul of clubs so i think that its unfair to say that contributors to such forums offer little. Alright there are some clampits on the thing lambasting individuals and certain clubs etc but often these people are pulled in line by genuine contributors and they definitley do not represent the majority as you find with most issues world wide.

The county board are Gaels like everyone including yourself and myself, we all contribute massively to the heart and soul of the GAA and we are all proud of it.

Response:
We have not at any stage lumped everyone into the same category but we would still maintain that the majority of posters have, do and will contribute little or nothing to the Association. The very forum you mentioned has had seriously defamatory and libellous tripe posted on it that has damaged families and individuals. Additionally, these forums achieve nothing because they are simply not the place to do business. Serious questions have to be asked about any forum that gives voice to those who refuse to identify themselves. That in our view is the most significant problem and why we will continue to moderate this site in the way it is most successfully done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 03, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
Quote from: rashCharacter on September 03, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
I'd say the Communications and PR committe, listed on the Antrim site would give a good indication as to who is writing the ridiculous moderator posts.
Throw off your high cloak of anonymity rashcharacter. You are simply a demagogue who has nothing to offer the GAA.

See the board got an official mention on county board dispatches today...

Name : Peter Lavery03 September 2009

While i agree that this stuff needs to be challenged, i do have to agree with the previous poster. Often, some innocent, non-vitriolic, genuine questions are asked on this thing nd they are answeered in a cheeky manner and i think the previous poster is right in that this further enhances the 'us and them' mentality. However, in terms of the lambasters and the energy sappers, i think you're right - in fact i wouldn't give them any web space at all!!

I think also that sometimes we can be in danger of suggesting that all who participate in online forums are lumped in with the same crowd when this is simply not tue.

Website discussion forums are a dime a dozen now and are very popular all around the world - obviously people like discussing stuff!! As a regular enough contributor to the gaaboard.com, i find it mostly friendly, curteous, informative and very interesting. We get the chance to discuss what matters most to our hearts with other Gaels. In my case and in a lot of others' cases, you are talking about the heart and soul of clubs so i think that its unfair to say that contributors to such forums offer little. Alright there are some clampits on the thing lambasting individuals and certain clubs etc but often these people are pulled in line by genuine contributors and they definitley do not represent the majority as you find with most issues world wide.

The county board are Gaels like everyone including yourself and myself, we all contribute massively to the heart and soul of the GAA and we are all proud of it.

Response:
We have not at any stage lumped everyone into the same category but we would still maintain that the majority of posters have, do and will contribute little or nothing to the Association. The very forum you mentioned has had seriously defamatory and libellous tripe posted on it that has damaged families and individuals. Additionally, these forums achieve nothing because they are simply not the place to do business. Serious questions have to be asked about any forum that gives voice to those who refuse to identify themselves. That in our view is the most significant problem and why we will continue to moderate this site in the way it is most successfully done.

Well you could ask said moderator to identify themselves?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 01:56:22 PM
Well said Johnny  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 03:56:23 PM
I think you just validated their point there in one swoop.

Ive said it before and I will say it again.
If you have nothing contructive to say about Antrim hurling then keep it shut.

I would advise you to remove that post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
Ammunition for the County Board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
Skull will Dunloy turn it around for the final or will the winners of this years championship come from the other semi final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 04:23:03 PM
MR I would say it will be interesting serious record in finals when you look at it. Although Cushendall would still be good favourites they havent hit top gear either so I would say there would be much in it either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 03, 2009, 04:28:53 PM
Queenie, skull and NAG are right

Still no venue and time confirmed? How long can it take?

No one will know what the Loughguile team will be until the day of the game. Cushendall's also could have a change or two. The extra 2 weeks certainly shakes things up a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 03:56:23 PM
I think you just validated their point there in one swoop.

Ive said it before and I will say it again.
If you have nothing contructive to say about Antrim hurling then keep it shut.

I would advise you to remove that post.

Hi there NAG. should I take that as a threat.? Am I now likely to be outed as some other persons have been recently.  It appears that when certain things are said on here at times the powers that be in this forum get contributors banned.  The only difference on the county website, the moderators, for they are many, just dont print or answer.

It certainly seems to me that some individual on this forum are the all mighty and powerful who sanction the demise of posters on here.  " People in glass houses" and all that!  I know of a number of posters in recent and past times who have been gassed on here!  Who are you to advise anyone about keeping it shut?  Your beginning to sound like a well known county Doctor. Huh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:20:04 PM
Hi Widebal - ffs./Anailís

Will Loughguiel turn the Dall over?  I for one think they will.  They are still the sort of team who can turn it on, come the big occasion.

Come on Wideball/Anailís, I am eager to hear your views on the outcome?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.

my senior playing days are over >:( my first year in 21 years that i didn't get my championship shirt. playing at junior level now were the craic is mighty.

Queenie, what position did you play in your prime?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.

my senior playing days are over >:( my first year in 21 years that i didn't get my championship shirt. playing at junior level now were the craic is mighty.

Queenie, what position did you play in your prime?

Middle of the park in both codes, I was then - the strong athletic type, before my hormones got the better of me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.

my senior playing days are over >:( my first year in 21 years that i didn't get my championship shirt. playing at junior level now were the craic is mighty.

Queenie, what position did you play in your prime?
You certainly were not playing for Naomh Gall for the 21 years.  I understand you came to St. Gall's when they were expereincing the good times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.
my senior playing days are over >:( my first year in 21 years that i didn't get my championship shirt. playing at junior level now were the craic is mighty.

Queenie, what position did you play in your prime?
You certainly were not playing for Naomh Gall for the 21 years.  I understand you came to St. Gall's when they were expereincing the good times.

thats right my first year the seniors won the Ulster football final, beat Roslea.

late goal in the all Ireland semi final was our undoing >:(

good times have always been about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 03, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2009, 04:32:44 PM
If Glenarm did beat St Galls serious questions would have to be asked about the current manager, whoever he is.

As long as MR is not playing, on the line or with any degree of influence, St. Galls should come through.
my senior playing days are over >:( my first year in 21 years that i didn't get my championship shirt. playing at junior level now were the craic is mighty.

Queenie, what position did you play in your prime?
You certainly were not playing for Naomh Gall for the 21 years.  I understand you came to St. Gall's when they were expereincing the good times.

thats right my first year the seniors won the Ulster football final, beat Roslea.

late goal in the all Ireland semi final was our undoing >:(

good times have always been about
I dont think so.  You say your with St. Gall's 21 years and you were involved with them when the won their first Ulster title and then beaten in All ireland Semi-final.  Well MR, that year was 1982, this is 2009, so without any further embarrassment and you a teacher, that is certainly more that 21 years!  So which club were you with then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
As I read it. His first senior championship match with St. Gall's was 21 years ago. His first year with St. Gall's (and him a wee lad) was 1982.

Seems plausible.
Does'nt add up in my book!  21 years ago was his first year with St. Galls. 21 years ago was 1988.  St Galls played their first Ulster Championship in 1982 against Roslea. So where was he prior to 1988?

Ok make it simpler.  Where was the Ulster Final played and where was the All Ireland semi-final played?  What was the signifiicance about their first All Ireland semi-final?  Who was Chairman of St. Gall's at that time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 08:50:43 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2009, 03:56:23 PM
I think you just validated their point there in one swoop.

Ive said it before and I will say it again.
If you have nothing contructive to say about Antrim hurling then keep it shut.

I would advise you to remove that post.

Hi there NAG. should I take that as a threat.? Am I now likely to be outed as some other persons have been recently.  It appears that when certain things are said on here at times the powers that be in this forum get contributors banned.  The only difference on the county website, the moderators, for they are many, just dont print or answer.

Take it whatever way you like we were just discussing the fact that on here we are not out to ruin anyone personally or call them into question in a personal matter and then you come off with that rubbish. As I said before if you have nothing to say in regards to Antrim hulring wihtout being vindictive against people then my advise is that you dont say anything. You are simply giving the rest of the genuine posters on here a bad name, but maybe that is the purpose of you being here all along.

It certainly seems to me that some individual on this forum are the all mighty and powerful who sanction the demise of posters on here.  " People in glass houses" and all that!  I know of a number of posters in recent and past times who have been gassed on here!  Who are you to advise anyone about keeping it shut?  Your beginning to sound like a well known county Doctor. Huh!
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 06:20:04 PM
Hi Widebal - ffs./Anailís

Will Loughguiel turn the Dall over?  I for one think they will.  They are still the sort of team who can turn it on, come the big occasion.

After that statment you have summed your knowledge up.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 04, 2009, 09:02:34 AM
Now that is funny!  :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2009, 10:38:11 AM
too be honest Queenie i think you should remove that post, at the very least it suggest tax evasion and is exactly the kind of post that gives this site such bad press

I think this is a grand site and quite often very informative, however once in a while someone posts something daft like this or allegations about the private lives of players/managers and the site loses serious credibility.

Also resent the constant implication that users of this site do nothing for the GAA, how do they know what we do, does coaching, refereeing, playing and supporting our club not consitute 'contributing to the GAA' or do you have to be in an admin position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
Exactly Max but I would imagine it only take one post like the one we have seen earlier to run the whole thing down.

Anyway Max is the other semi final going ahead in Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
I always wonder why our County Administration seems so detached from the rest of GAA people running their clubs. They really don't appear very interested in what clubs are trying to achieve. Really when I think about it, alot of them don't actually look that interested in the game itself in any passionate way. Now that may just be me getting it totally wrong, I'm sure I'm not the only one who senses that. Most of the people who discuss Antrim Hurling here appear to be interested in the game itself and the betterment of it. I'd say there are very few internet only warriors on here who don't take their enthusiasm back into their clubs. If antrims admin can't see that then that tells me more about him that it says about this forum
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2009, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
Exactly Max but I would imagine it only take one post like the one we have seen earlier to run the whole thing down.

Anyway Max is the other semi final going ahead in Dunloy?

haven't heard anything yet, i think they are leaving it closer to the time to see how the weather holds up.  Pitch looks very wet.  needs a good week of dry weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:07:26 AM
Geordie from Armagh, who phones into Gerry Anderson now and then says it's going to be an indian summer in september so it's bound to turn good shortly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 11:13:05 AM
Giving your age away badly there Skull listening to boyo!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
What age do people these days get scundered with the crap coming out of Radio 1 & Cool FM at? Was 21 for me  :). Gerry is the best DJ I've heard on radio by a country mile. Him then George Jones then Hugo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2009, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
What age do people these days get scundered with the crap coming out of Radio 1 & Cool FM at? Was 21 for me  :). Gerry is the best DJ I've heard on radio by a country mile. Him then George Jones then Hugo

Does your uncle Hugo love you Skull?   ;D

I'm a Gerry Ryan fan myself.

f**k we'd need that indian summer down our way as they had a slurry tanker taking water off our pitch last night, the wading birds were having a field day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 12:18:18 PM
Id say there would be very few pitches playable across the county at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
That was my idea that it could be someone sent to destroy from within maybe that is my paranoia kicking in.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 03:02:41 PM
For the record ..... George Jones is the worst, then all Cool FM DJ's, the Hugo... Do you boys not get sarcasm?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2009, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 03:02:41 PM
For the record ..... George Jones is the worst, then all Cool FM DJ's, the Hugo... Do you boys not get sarcasm?  :)


aye right Skull, you'll be ringing into Hugo when you're dung scaling the 'big hill' in your John Deere, i know the sort alright!
(http://www.in-gb.co.uk/uploaded-media/images/tim/Garage6.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
As I read it. His first senior championship match with St. Gall's was 21 years ago. His first year with St. Gall's (and him a wee lad) was 1982.

Seems plausible.
Does'nt add up in my book!  21 years ago was his first year with St. Galls. 21 years ago was 1988.  St Galls played their first Ulster Championship in 1982 against Roslea. So where was he prior to 1988?

Ok make it simpler.  Where was the Ulster Final played and where was the All Ireland semi-final played?  What was the signifiicance about their first All Ireland semi-final?  Who was Chairman of St. Gall's at that time?

1988 i played my first Senior Championship hurling game v Sarsfields, it is now 2009 and that makes it 21 years having hurled at senior level. i was 16. i've been playing for St Galls since i was 11 and continue to do so. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  history lesson over.

oh Clan Na gael from Rosscomon beat us in the winter of 83
what position and club did you play for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 04, 2009, 04:18:48 PM
Sunday 13th Sept
SHC: Cushendall V Loughgiel 3.00pm @ Ballycastle

from the county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
That's some going MR - fair play to you. Have you largely avoided injury over those years?
Hopefully you guys can lift the intermediate and get up there.
Would say your record would be hard to match.

Anyone ever read Gerry Anderson's autobiograpy? At least I think the auto bit is true. He was a wile man!
Assuming this is the same Gerry...can't access this at work:
www.fanderson.org.uk/bios/gerryanderson.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 04, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 03, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2009, 10:54:55 PM
As I read it. His first senior championship match with St. Gall's was 21 years ago. His first year with St. Gall's (and him a wee lad) was 1982.

Seems plausible.
Does'nt add up in my book!  21 years ago was his first year with St. Galls. 21 years ago was 1988.  St Galls played their first Ulster Championship in 1982 against Roslea. So where was he prior to 1988?

Ok make it simpler.  Where was the Ulster Final played and where was the All Ireland semi-final played?  What was the signifiicance about their first All Ireland semi-final?  Who was Chairman of St. Gall's at that time?

1988 i played my first Senior Championship hurling game v Sarsfields, it is now 2009 and that makes it 21 years having hurled at senior level. i was 16. i've been playing for St Galls since i was 11 and continue to do so. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  history lesson over.

oh Clan Na gael from Rosscomon beat us in the winter of 83
what position and club did you play for?

St. John's and middle of the park!

You did not answer the rest of the questions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 04, 2009, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
That's some going MR - fair play to you. Have you largely avoided injury over those years?
Hopefully you guys can lift the intermediate and get up there.
Would say your record would be hard to match.

Anyone ever read Gerry Anderson's autobiograpy? At least I think the auto bit is true. He was a wile man!
Assuming this is the same Gerry...can't access this at work:
www.fanderson.org.uk/bios/gerryanderson.html

not really, a few dislocations but generally never had an injury untill two weeks ago. between my finger and thumb i've a weakness and find it sore after striking the ball. annoying as Fcuk.

good man queenie, that didn't hurt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 06:05:30 PM
Those boyos on the county website are getting a tad angry.  Think we hit a nerve, dont you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
Did WE? I wonder what WE'VE said recently?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
St. Galls 4-11   Glenarm 2-6.

Jeasus MR, your boys missed so many chances.  They were very slow to the ball, were not catching the ball cleanly and doing an awful lot of faffing about .  Your fellas would need to tidy the act up for the final.

What about that CJ fella in his black tights, whats that all about!  Mackers was'nt a happy when you took him off.  Glad to see you took CJ off so that his ma could wash his tights for him.  Did I sense a bit of nepotism creeping in also, tut, tut.  Gallagher scored a fine goal all the same amnd your keeper proved his worth.

As for the fella in the middle, the Terry(ible) Reilly one, who I have never seen referee before.  I can understand now why he is called the "Terrible one".  Never up with play, blowing the whistle for the silliest of technical fouls only moved between the two forty fives.  Amazingly he over ruled his umpires from 50 yards away when his umpires cleary seen that the ball was wide. The umpires were right beside it, yet he gave a 65, amazing, he was no where near the thing. I was getting worried about him for a while, he blew up that many times I thought he was going to need an oxygen tent. Absolutely killed the game!

Our lads in the minor football were terrible also by the way.  Creggan deserved their win in the end.

I also hear theres a bit of a fall out among the powers that be at Casement, McCrory and Murray.  Dont see McCrorry about the place very much these days nor the good Dr. for that matter.  I hear the Doc. is also getting married soon, she must be a lovely sheep!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:00:09 PM
Queenie......who do you think is interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 11:09:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:00:09 PM
Queenie......who do you think is interested?

No sweat Skull, just keeping people informed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:15:51 PM
And you think people are interested in your "information"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:15:51 PM
And you think people are interested in your "information"
Well, it is more interesting than some of the tripe you post.  Hugo Duncan, jeasus, get a life man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:27:48 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 04, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2009, 11:15:51 PM
And you think people are interested in your "information"
Well, it is more interesting than some of the tripe you post.  Hugo Duncan, jeasus, get a life man!

Not replying anymore to your good self will be a start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 06, 2009, 09:06:25 AM
We (glenarm) were piss poor on friday night and have been all year. On subject on the umpires the 2 that were by the goal we were defending were nothing short of a disgrace, not because of their decisions but of their antics and comments throughout. Finally well done st galls and good luck for the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 06, 2009, 09:07:30 AM
Defending in the second half that should say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
I wish more people in Antrim were as fanatical about hurling as they are in KK. Far too many of the could take it or leave it brigade & half hearted lazy negative hurling men in this county. A long term development strategy backed up by appropriate resources backed up with an appropriate PR activity is needed to drive the game on in this County. We have a quare job on our hands to change hearts and minds and develop a standard of hurling that we all can enjoy.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2009, 09:26:51 AM
Skull do you think that every hurling person in ulster should be sat down and made to watch the final a few times and then shown the standard of our own game. I think from top to bottom admin people, coaches, referees and players.

Everyone can take something from that game yesterday, most especially the players, in the way that yesterday they hurled as hard as anyone has ever played the game and there was only one really dirty stroke in the whole game and even then there were no bust ups or histrionics. The game just moved on.

I dont think that we may ever see the fanaticism that it would take to get teams to that level up here but that should be the goal that we are all striving for withiin the county and ulster as whole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 07, 2009, 10:10:42 AM
Nag one major problem is the attitude of supporters.Those Antrim fans yesterday will wax lyrical about the hard hitting tackles etc but come next Sunday when Dall meet the Shams the same supporters will be screaming blue murder whenever there little Shane or Laim ships a blow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
Yeah thats exactly what I mean the whole attitude needs a change, but if that is driven from the players not reacting or baying for a foul every time there is a tackle then that would be a start.

Dont get me wrong here im not looking for open season though if we can erradicate the gutless dirty pulling that has become a feature of our club games here that would also go a long way to improving the standard or our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
The other thing we need to do is take off the rose tinted spectacles and promote the talent that is here and now rather than the "babs keating" types regaling stories of how hurling was so much better in "our day". Modern day commited hurlers in Antrim have much better stick work that those of 20/30 years ago and have superior levels of fitness. It's the structure of our games and the development strategy which is missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 07, 2009, 10:43:59 AM
Couldn't believe reading Irish News on saturday that several Tipp players played in the final of the South Tpperary Championship final one week before the All Ireland Final.Up here that would be unthinkable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 07, 2009, 10:51:05 AM
I see someone has quoted me and used the name MAX to do so on the County website

Got a nice response from Admin,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Post it here max
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 07, 2009, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Post it here max

from Antrimgaa.net


Name : MAX
04 September 2009
how does the Moderator know what we do, does coaching, refereeing, playing and supporting our club not consitute 'contributing to the GAA' or do you have to be in an admin position

Quite simply because of the fact that you anonymously choose to say or post things on a forum where you have "carte blanche" and wouldn't get away with in any other circumstances proves that your contribution to the GAA is blind hypocrisy. Saying one thing and doing another is the definition of this It is the path chosen by demagogues who ultimately will never hold any signifcant positions where real change can be effected. To then protest on this forum is proof indeed of this lunacy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
Think that somes us up pretty well doesnt it!  ;)

'ultimately will never hold any signifcant positions where real change can be effected'

Is that how they actually see themselves, yes responding vitriolically to genuine questions on a internet guestbook is effecting real change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 11:52:36 AM
After yesterdays game I am left with a sense of euphoric amazement mixed with dread when I compare where we are as a county.
My own feeling is that we are at the edge of the abyss or certainly very close to it as far as Hurling in Antrim is concerned.
Everybody in Antrim is looking for the short term gain, long term development strategy plans are met with lip sevice. Clubs spend their time looking over their shoulder self serving as ever and failling to realise our future is shared. I.E. If it goes tits up we are all F*#Ked.
The county is pennyless, with all the money been spent on Dunsilly and the senior teams it appears there is nothing left to fund proper juvenile hurling development on anything like the scale of Kilkenny or Tipp. Which is why I would'nt have much time for people moaning about entance prices for games but to the same extent I would like to see investment targeted at juvenile development as an absolute priority.
The time has passed lads for us to blame this that or the other but instead for good hurling people like ourselves to stand up, oust the begrudgers who claim to represent us at county meetings and turn this around. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 01:31:36 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 11:52:36 AM
After yesterdays game I am left with a sense of euphoric amazement mixed with dread when I compare where we are as a county.
My own feeling is that we are at the edge of the abyss or certainly very close to it as far as Hurling in Antrim is concerned.
Everybody in Antrim is looking for the short term gain, long term development strategy plans are met with lip sevice. Clubs spend their time looking over their shoulder self serving as ever and failling to realise our future is shared. I.E. If it goes tits up we are all F*#Ked.
The county is pennyless, with all the money been spent on Dunsilly and the senior teams it appears there is nothing left to fund proper juvenile hurling development on anything like the scale of Kilkenny or Tipp. Which is why I would'nt have much time for people moaning about entance prices for games but to the same extent I would like to see investment targeted at juvenile development as an absolute priority.
The time has passed lads for us to blame this that or the other but instead for good hurling people like ourselves to stand up, oust the begrudgers who claim to represent us at county meetings and turn this around. >:(

So Last Man, are you going to be the first or the 'last man' to stand up and do something, I wonder.  Talk really is cheap!  Come on Last Man, you be the first to turn it all around.  By the way, are you and everyone else going to dig deep also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
I should really ignore you Queenie but just this once? I am involved in juvenile development and I have attended county meetings to say my piece but the status quo will not be upset by one man, "Last Man" or whoever,democracy prevails in our beloved GAA as well you know. I am assuming some intelligence or knowledge of the current system on your part of course, over generous on my part possibly. Why don't you write down some of your good ideas on the back a postage stamp and send them on to me. I look forward to your constructive input and opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 07, 2009, 05:50:05 PM
Sambo's piece in the Irish Independent from Sat- Dunno why he's on about James, been involved with us for last number of years

They endeared themselves with their nicknames and the novelty they brought for those few years.

But, on the 20th anniversary of only their second All-Ireland final appearance, Terence 'Sambo' McNaughton surveys the landscape of Antrim hurling and admits that they haven't spawned much of a legacy.

The 1989 All-Ireland hurling final will be remembered as much for the vanquished as the victors.

Tipperary made short work of ending an 18-year famine, Antrim were just dazed by it all.

"We were naive. We let the occasion get to us. I always felt if we had reached a final before that, in '87 or '88, when we might have, we would have been better prepared. Kilkenny beat us in Dundalk in '87 when we might have turned them over.

"But by '89 the team had reached the crest and was beginning the descent. We were lambs to the slaughter and got carried away with the hype as bad as any team. We forgot the match. The County Board were fitting us with jackets when up to that we had trouble getting jerseys," he recalled.

Antrim had taken out Offaly in the semi-final having beaten them twice in the league earlier that year. On their way off the field the Offaly players formed a guard of honour and applauded them into their dressing-room to one corner of the Hogan Stand.

Tipperary were much more ruthless however and Nicky English inspired them to a 4-24 to 3-9 victory to crown the county's renaissance under Babs Keating.

For Antrim it was a critical fork in the road too and for a while it looked like they had taken the correct route.

But somewhere over the last 20 years, Antrim hurling has lost its way according to Sambo, who stepped down as joint manager of the county team in recent weeks.

excuses

"I know I'm critical but when you look back at '89 we were a lot closer to the top than we are now. That goes without saying. For eight years we remained in Division 1 proper," he reflects.

"We can't throw out the old excuse about how removed we were from it all. I can be home to the Glens of Antrim from Croke Park in two and a half hours now. Belfast is an hour and a half. We don't have the old excuses."

The Antrim Board are planning a reunion later in the year of the '89 team, bringing together a group that has largely drifted from the game.

"There's Olcan McFetridge (1989 All Star) now, he wouldn't go to a game. I had trouble persuading big Niall (Patterson the team's goalkeeper) to come in and work with the 'keepers this year. Donal Armstrong and Terence Donnelly are not involved, Leonard McKeegan and James McNaughton are not involved. Dessie Donnelly is chairman of his club and Aidan McCarry is back with his club this year.

"But by and large the players on that team have taken a path away from Antrim hurling and that is sad, sad for Antrim hurling.

"I always maintain that the reason that team was so competitive was because we had our grounding as minors in Leinster," says Sambo.

"I would have played in Leinster for four years. We put Kilkenny out one of the years. In '83 Niall Quinn's Dublin beat us and contested an All-Ireland final."

McNaughton feels the standard of club hurling in the county is as bad this year as he can remember it.

"There's a worrying statistic in the Antrim league. St John's are the only Belfast club in Division 1. They're on four points, close to relegation, and if they go down there will be no south Antrim club in that division for the first time ever."

For such a passionate Antrim hurling man there are more pressing concerns for the county than a 20th anniversary of something special, something unique.

It was nice while it lasted. But it didn't last long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
I should really ignore you Queenie but just this once? I am involved in juvenile development and I have attended county meetings to say my piece but the status quo will not be upset by one man, "Last Man" or whoever,democracy prevails in our beloved GAA as well you know. I am assuming some intelligence or knowledge of the current system on your part of course, over generous on my part possibly. Why don't you write down some of your good ideas on the back a postage stamp and send them on to me. I look forward to your constructive input and opinion.

Hold on a second.  You are the one who is blowing your mouth off about how bad we are, what needs to be done etc.  Your suggestion about me putting my ideas on the back of a postage stamp, I feel is typical of you apathy and a little uncallled for.  In many ways I agree with what you have said having witnessed the intensity, skill levels and pace of yesterdays game.  However, I dont believe that your rantings here outlining all that is wrong with the powers that be a HQ in Casement is going to change anyting.  Begrudgers they maybe, but all this talk about 'Long term development/strategy plans' is equally meaningless unless the quality of coaching within this county improves tenfold.  You can coach juveniles all you want, day in - day out, it will make now difference.  Until there is support from families, clubs, communities, parishes, divisional boards, county baords and provincial boards I may add, our wonderful 'sliotar agus caman' game is doomed.  The qulaity and intensity of our coaching/coaches needs to improve vastly.

Lets be real honest here, it needs major investment, it requires coaches of a high standard who bring no baggage with them.  It requires schools, clubs, parishes, communites etc, etc, to really commit to hurling to ensure it's long term survival in this part of the world.

In Antrim, 'CLUB' is everything, the only thing! 'County', where hurling in particular is concerned, is secondary and in many respects a costly inconvenience!  The entire 'mind set' regarding hurling and how we improve it in this county has to change.  Individuals at Club and County Board level need to look beyond self preservation and embrace a major willingness to change.  I am not sure there are that many indiviuduals in our county prepared to grasp such a nettle.   You can talk about the County board present imcumbents all you want.  We have done that for years.  You can criticise, moan, begrudge and engage in major character assassinations - sure have'nt we seen  and heard that all before!  In '89, we had our day in the sun and it looks like we are content with that!  Your club, my club and everybody eleses club is really all that matters when it comes down to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 07, 2009, 05:50:05 PM
Sambo's piece in the Irish Independent from Sat- Dunno why he's on about James, been involved with us for last number of years

They endeared themselves with their nicknames and the novelty they brought for those few years.

But, on the 20th anniversary of only their second All-Ireland final appearance, Terence 'Sambo' McNaughton surveys the landscape of Antrim hurling and admits that they haven't spawned much of a legacy.

The 1989 All-Ireland hurling final will be remembered as much for the vanquished as the victors.

Tipperary made short work of ending an 18-year famine, Antrim were just dazed by it all.

"We were naive. We let the occasion get to us. I always felt if we had reached a final before that, in '87 or '88, when we might have, we would have been better prepared. Kilkenny beat us in Dundalk in '87 when we might have turned them over.

"But by '89 the team had reached the crest and was beginning the descent. We were lambs to the slaughter and got carried away with the hype as bad as any team. We forgot the match. The County Board were fitting us with jackets when up to that we had trouble getting jerseys," he recalled.

Antrim had taken out Offaly in the semi-final having beaten them twice in the league earlier that year. On their way off the field the Offaly players formed a guard of honour and applauded them into their dressing-room to one corner of the Hogan Stand.

Tipperary were much more ruthless however and Nicky English inspired them to a 4-24 to 3-9 victory to crown the county's renaissance under Babs Keating.

For Antrim it was a critical fork in the road too and for a while it looked like they had taken the correct route.

But somewhere over the last 20 years, Antrim hurling has lost its way according to Sambo, who stepped down as joint manager of the county team in recent weeks.

excuses

"I know I'm critical but when you look back at '89 we were a lot closer to the top than we are now. That goes without saying. For eight years we remained in Division 1 proper," he reflects.

"We can't throw out the old excuse about how removed we were from it all. I can be home to the Glens of Antrim from Croke Park in two and a half hours now. Belfast is an hour and a half. We don't have the old excuses."

The Antrim Board are planning a reunion later in the year of the '89 team, bringing together a group that has largely drifted from the game.

"There's Olcan McFetridge (1989 All Star) now, he wouldn't go to a game. I had trouble persuading big Niall (Patterson the team's goalkeeper) to come in and work with the 'keepers this year. Donal Armstrong and Terence Donnelly are not involved, Leonard McKeegan and James McNaughton are not involved. Dessie Donnelly is chairman of his club and Aidan McCarry is back with his club this year.

"But by and large the players on that team have taken a path away from Antrim hurling and that is sad, sad for Antrim hurling.

"I always maintain that the reason that team was so competitive was because we had our grounding as minors in Leinster," says Sambo.

"I would have played in Leinster for four years. We put Kilkenny out one of the years. In '83 Niall Quinn's Dublin beat us and contested an All-Ireland final."

McNaughton feels the standard of club hurling in the county is as bad this year as he can remember it.

"There's a worrying statistic in the Antrim league. St John's are the only Belfast club in Division 1. They're on four points, close to relegation, and if they go down there will be no south Antrim club in that division for the first time ever."

For such a passionate Antrim hurling man there are more pressing concerns for the county than a 20th anniversary of something special, something unique.

It was nice while it lasted. But it didn't last long.

Thats just Sambo turning SCORPION!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
What else would a strategic plan mean!  ;) Maybe a dictionary would in order
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2009, 10:53:34 AM
Development plans are just paper until they are implemented hatchet. I think that is the point. It's all talk at the minute. Actions speak louder than words and currently doing things like dropping NA/SW development squads in favour of having only one all county "development" squad so that expenditure can be controlled/limited (less travelling expenses to training and matches down south) should tell us where we are at. Painting things that are regressive as being progressive just to balance the books fools no one who loves the game.

Just for the record this is the first post I have read from Queenie where I actually agree with some of the things he is saying (although I'm not quite sure what problems he had with LM's original post.....Queenie being Queenie I suppose)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 08, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
I should really ignore you Queenie but just this once? I am involved in juvenile development and I have attended county meetings to say my piece but the status quo will not be upset by one man, "Last Man" or whoever,democracy prevails in our beloved GAA as well you know. I am assuming some intelligence or knowledge of the current system on your part of course, over generous on my part possibly. Why don't you write down some of your good ideas on the back a postage stamp and send them on to me. I look forward to your constructive input and opinion.

Hold on a second.  You are the one who is blowing your mouth off about how bad we are, what needs to be done etc.  Your suggestion about me putting my ideas on the back of a postage stamp, I feel is typical of you apathy and a little uncallled for.  In many ways I agree with what you have said having witnessed the intensity, skill levels and pace of yesterdays game.  However, I dont believe that your rantings here outlining all that is wrong with the powers that be a HQ in Casement is going to change anyting.  Begrudgers they maybe, but all this talk about 'Long term development/strategy plans' is equally meaningless unless the quality of coaching within this county improves tenfold.  You can coach juveniles all you want, day in - day out, it will make now difference.  Until there is support from families, clubs, communities, parishes, divisional boards, county baords and provincial boards I may add, our wonderful 'sliotar agus caman' game is doomed.  The qulaity and intensity of our coaching/coaches needs to improve vastly.

Lets be real honest here, it needs major investment, it requires coaches of a high standard who bring no baggage with them.  It requires schools, clubs, parishes, communites etc, etc, to really commit to hurling to ensure it's long term survival in this part of the world.

In Antrim, 'CLUB' is everything, the only thing! 'County', where hurling in particular is concerned, is secondary and in many respects a costly inconvenience!  The entire 'mind set' regarding hurling and how we improve it in this county has to change.  Individuals at Club and County Board level need to look beyond self preservation and embrace a major willingness to change.  I am not sure there are that many indiviuduals in our county prepared to grasp such a nettle.   You can talk about the County board present imcumbents all you want.  We have done that for years.  You can criticise, moan, begrudge and engage in major character assassinations - sure have'nt we seen  and heard that all before!  In '89, we had our day in the sun and it looks like we are content with that!  Your club, my club and everybody eleses club is really all that matters when it comes down to it!
My issue is not with the board imcumbents but instead with the delegates who represent our clubs as they ultimately can influence change. Small minded clubs who can't see past their own gate and everybody look after their own is the road to nowhere. Clubs instead need to start working in partnership, get out there and evangelise about the game, stop intimidating people with their petty rivalries.
Rivalries should be saved until the ball is thrown in and put away afterwards.
What would that cost?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2009, 11:04:01 AM
Thanks hatchet for teaching us the theory on how to suck eggs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
When you say you "bumped into"?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2009, 11:35:52 AM
When is the Belfast strategy to be implemented?

I can see a big grand document with little or impact on the ground for lack of people to implement it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
I just read it as, look how good we were then and how crap we are now.

Look at me being the only member of the team who has given something back.

Look at us we beat kilkenny when we were minors, I was right all along about Leinster.

I am not a fan personality wise and the attitude of the man so maybe I am biased but thats the way it came across to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2009, 12:50:19 PM
On Strategic Plans, grand and great to get aspirations down on paper and too see the resources required, much harder to implement and i wish the county board well in trying to do so.

Anyone starting to get the feeling that the amount of paid development officers may actually be preventing people coming forward to help, kinda 'thats there job' attitude.  I'm talking specifically about County level but with so many adverts appearing in recent years for club development officers it could seep down to Clubs.

I'm all on for development officers and i think the Schools in particular are a huge area of concern for Antrim gaels, in effect our juvenile season lasts from May to August, in the south the School competitions pick up when the club finishes, i read alot of autobiographies and too a man they all mention the influence some Brother or teacher has had on their hurling careers, the schools almost seem more important that the club.  Certainly the documentary on De La Salle in Waterford almost said as much.

Its the same in football in Ulster, look at the best players of the last few years, Canavan, O'Neill, McAnallen, add in others like Harte & Teirney, McGuckian, Lockhart, McGrath etc and you can see how football has flourish in Schools in Tyrone, Maghera, Newry yet hurling in Antrim remains in the doldums with only really Kieran Herron the big name hurler teaching, and of all schools he is at the most pro active hurling school in antrim anyhow.

We need to somehow encourage more coaching in the schools, and top class coaching, its not easy done and in the primary sector in particular i can see less and less men (let alone hurlers) entering the area of employment

We all know that it isn't one small thing that is hindering our development as a county it is thousands of small things, but the biggest obstacles are lethargy and finance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2009, 12:53:21 PM
You can't disagree with anything he has said, but as an ambassador for the game, yes he needs to be forthright with his opinions, but he needs to include what he feels needs to happen for it to get better in an equally forthright way.
The point he makes about the number of retired hurlers who wouldn't lift a finger round their clubs is the most important point IMO. We need to make them see that their job is not done when they hang up the boots and that they need to pass on their passion & knowledge of the game to the next generation or the whole thing falls to an arse. Boys like cloot, big niall & beaver come out of the woodwork to remaniss and talk about the good ole days but wouldn't antrim hurling have been all the better if they "and the rest" had been part of a well structured coaching development plan 20 years ago? They are the headline names of course but there are countless club hurlers who drifted away. If enough bodies could be persuaded to stay involved then the burden wouldn't be that great on the individual. Many hands make light work as they say but at the minute the committed ones spread themselves too thin and end up getting scundered by the workload combined with the apathy in fellow club/county men who either stand idly by or just go through the motions to keep their consciences clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2009, 12:56:15 PM
just reread my post and it sounds like i'm having a good at development officers, def not, i'm merely stating the fact they are paid (which is neccessary given the time required and working hours needed) may hinder them in doing the best job they can

On the Sambo interview, i don't see an awful lot wrong, it is as it is. I agree Leinster would help, and when i was minor i wished we could have competed rather than playing nonsense friendlies, before getting stuffed.  I like S&W attitude, don't agree with everything they've done but think they had the sporting arrogance that was needed.  IMHO they took the team 2 years too early

but they let more club games be played than i thought they would and that is a big thing that needs sorted also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 08, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
I should really ignore you Queenie but just this once? I am involved in juvenile development and I have attended county meetings to say my piece but the status quo will not be upset by one man, "Last Man" or whoever,democracy prevails in our beloved GAA as well you know. I am assuming some intelligence or knowledge of the current system on your part of course, over generous on my part possibly. Why don't you write down some of your good ideas on the back a postage stamp and send them on to me. I look forward to your constructive input and opinion.

Hold on a second.  You are the one who is blowing your mouth off about how bad we are, what needs to be done etc.  Your suggestion about me putting my ideas on the back of a postage stamp, I feel is typical of you apathy and a little uncalled for.  In many ways I agree with what you have said having witnessed the intensity, skill levels and pace of yesterdays game.  However, I don't believe that your rantings here outlining all that is wrong with the powers that be a HQ in Casement is going to change anyting.  Begrudgers they maybe, but all this talk about 'Long term development/strategy plans' is equally meaningless unless the quality of coaching within this county improves tenfold.  You can coach juveniles all you want, day in - day out, it will make now difference.  Until there is support from families, clubs, communities, parishes, divisional boards, county boards and provincial boards I may add, our wonderful 'sliotar agus caman' game is doomed.  The quality and intensity of our coaching/coaches needs to improve vastly.

Lets be real honest here, it needs major investment, it requires coaches of a high standard who bring no baggage with them.  It requires schools, clubs, parishes, communites etc, etc, to really commit to hurling to ensure it's long term survival in this part of the world.

In Antrim, 'CLUB' is everything, the only thing! 'County', where hurling in particular is concerned, is secondary and in many respects a costly inconvenience!  The entire 'mind set' regarding hurling and how we improve it in this county has to change.  Individuals at Club and County Board level need to look beyond self preservation and embrace a major willingness to change.  I am not sure there are that many individuals in our county prepared to grasp such a nettle.   You can talk about the County board present incumbents all you want.  We have done that for years.  You can criticise, moan, begrudge and engage in major character assassinations - sure haven't we seen  and heard that all before!  In '89, we had our day in the sun and it looks like we are content with that!  Your club, my club and everybody else's club is really all that matters when it comes down to it!
My issue is not with the board incumbents but instead with the delegates who represent our clubs as they ultimately can influence change. Small minded clubs who can't see past their own gate and everybody look after their own is the road to nowhere. Clubs instead need to start working in partnership, get out there and evangelise about the game, stop intimidating people with their petty rivalries.
Rivalries should be saved until the ball is thrown in and put away afterwards.
What would that cost?
Fair enough! But do you or anyone else for that matter see the likes of St. Johns (my club) working closely with the likes of Rossa? Or can you imagine the likes of Loughgeil working in tandem/harmony with Dunloy as part of an overall aim/objective with a greater 'strategic Plan' I honestly don't think so.  Hate to sound if I am being apathetic, but being a little bit longer in the tooth than most of you fellas and also having been around a few hurling corners, I cant honestly see or envisage the necessary change required to improve our hurling lot in the near future.

For the great and necessary change to evolve, to me there would have to be serious casualties among the present personnel within the county admin and at club level also.  A fair amount of gutting out would have to take place. That may sound very radical, but believe me it would be a major prerequisite.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 06:07:16 PM
By the way, my spell checker is working again, so no need for the 'Dictionary' smart ass!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 08, 2009, 10:56:26 AM
Queenie, a long term strategc development plan has to be guided by a goal or an aim.

For example in terms of hurling development it might be: To foster, develop and create sustainable structures within the entire Antrim GAA family to compete at the very highest level both Domestically and Nationally consistently and competitively for the next 100 years.

The work is in the how do we do that and this would cover absolutely everything from coaching, to club structures, to funding, to kits, to equipment, to mental development, skills development, medical research even.  Absolutely everything.  After everything has been explored in all facets of the plan using good examples from other counties and all that, they are actioned!!  So you may have 15 different strands to the strategic plan, all with their own actions and timescales.  For example if one of them is club coaching, then first stage is to call a club meeting (by a certain time), recruit at least 20 volunteers (by march 2010), Have at least 15 out of 20 qualified up to Level one (by Macrh 2011), hold internal club coaching days an development - sharing of theories and drills etc (2 x per year), have 4 mentors per team (March 2011), hold training sessions 2 x per week (March 2011).  Same in terms of recruitment if your club is struggling for numbers: Aim - to get more kids.  How we gonna do it: Leaflets (March 2010), community/parish fun day or registration days etc etc etc.

If and its a big if, all clubs were guided by professional and competent people directing this huge operation and in particular if clubs stuck to it, then that would be the Long Term Strategic Development and Action plan in place.  You review it after a year or 6 months and alter it if need be.  But this plan would cover abolutely EVERYTHING from clubs organising equipment and fundraising to the County Board making its necessary changes to become more effective and to learn how to help manage such a plan and guess what,t hey would aso havn action plan to do that too although they would have to tell themselves that because they couldn't take anyone else telling them what to do and what not to.

I normally charge for this sortt of education by the way ;D
I dont need a lesson from you about 'Strategic Plans' either.  Sure did'nt I write the strategic plan for GNM when they needed the 50K to buy the land their club sits on!

You can talk about all the Strategic Plans/Actions Plans you want.  In my vast expereince, they generally sit on shelves and gather dust.  (They cost a lot of money also).

Strategic/Action Plans need to be implemented, reviewed, frequently reviewed and modified against timesales.  More importantly, do you see the bollocks who is supposed to be implementing it and overseeing it, if things are shaping up against the deadlines, you shaft the useless fecker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 08, 2009, 10:56:26 AM
Queenie, a long term strategc development plan has to be guided by a goal or an aim.

For example in terms of hurling development it might be: To foster, develop and create sustainable structures within the entire Antrim GAA family to compete at the very highest level both Domestically and Nationally consistently and competitively for the next 100 years.

The work is in the how do we do that and this would cover absolutely everything from coaching, to club structures, to funding, to kits, to equipment, to mental development, skills development, medical research even.  Absolutely everything.  After everything has been explored in all facets of the plan using good examples from other counties and all that, they are actioned!!  So you may have 15 different strands to the strategic plan, all with their own actions and timescales.  For example if one of them is club coaching, then first stage is to call a club meeting (by a certain time), recruit at least 20 volunteers (by march 2010), Have at least 15 out of 20 qualified up to Level one (by Macrh 2011), hold internal club coaching days an development - sharing of theories and drills etc (2 x per year), have 4 mentors per team (March 2011), hold training sessions 2 x per week (March 2011).  Same in terms of recruitment if your club is struggling for numbers: Aim - to get more kids.  How we gonna do it: Leaflets (March 2010), community/parish fun day or registration days etc etc etc.

If and its a big if, all clubs were guided by professional and competent people directing this huge operation and in particular if clubs stuck to it, then that would be the Long Term Strategic Development and Action plan in place.  You review it after a year or 6 months and alter it if need be.  But this plan would cover abolutely EVERYTHING from clubs organising equipment and fundraising to the County Board making its necessary changes to become more effective and to learn how to help manage such a plan and guess what,t hey would aso havn action plan to do that too although they would have to tell themselves that because they couldn't take anyone else telling them what to do and what not to.

I normally charge for this sortt of education by the way ;D
I dont need a lesson from you about 'Strategic Plans' either.  Sure did'nt I write the strategic plan for GNM when they needed the 50K to buy the land their club sits on!

You can talk about all the Strategic Plans/Actions Plans you want.  In my vast expereince, they generally sit on shelves and gather dust.  (They cost a lot of money also).

Strategic/Action Plans need to be implemented, reviewed, frequently reviewed and modified against timesales.  More importantly, do you see the bollocks who is supposed to be implementing it and overseeing it, if things are shaping up against the deadlines, you shaft the useless fecker!

Now where in the hell are you going to find 'Professional and Competent' people with such attruibutes in GNM! I dont think so.  And if you do by some stretch of the imagination, you implement your plan and see where that takes you!

My Plan is this.  Lets send a team of professional consultants about 180 miles down the road to a county within Leinster (get me drift, Meeoowwww!)  Let them study how things are done in that county. Then get them to find us abou 35 players of the calibre of Tommy Walsh, King Henry, Cha Fitz and lend them to Antrim.  Send them out to play hurling for Antrim, win a Liam, and then everyone here will be happy. Full stop!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 09:18:07 PM
Hi HatchetMan,  you have been listening to too much of that Sinn Fein rhetoric at the top of the Rock.  Lets get back to living in the real world for goodness sake.

Who is going to fund all these grand ideas of your strategic plan?  Unless you know a wee bank down town with the side doors open!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 09, 2009, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 08, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 08, 2009, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 07, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 07, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
I should really ignore you Queenie but just this once? I am involved in juvenile development and I have attended county meetings to say my piece but the status quo will not be upset by one man, "Last Man" or whoever,democracy prevails in our beloved GAA as well you know. I am assuming some intelligence or knowledge of the current system on your part of course, over generous on my part possibly. Why don't you write down some of your good ideas on the back a postage stamp and send them on to me. I look forward to your constructive input and opinion.

Hold on a second.  You are the one who is blowing your mouth off about how bad we are, what needs to be done etc.  Your suggestion about me putting my ideas on the back of a postage stamp, I feel is typical of you apathy and a little uncalled for.  In many ways I agree with what you have said having witnessed the intensity, skill levels and pace of yesterdays game.  However, I don't believe that your rantings here outlining all that is wrong with the powers that be a HQ in Casement is going to change anyting.  Begrudgers they maybe, but all this talk about 'Long term development/strategy plans' is equally meaningless unless the quality of coaching within this county improves tenfold.  You can coach juveniles all you want, day in - day out, it will make now difference.  Until there is support from families, clubs, communities, parishes, divisional boards, county boards and provincial boards I may add, our wonderful 'sliotar agus caman' game is doomed.  The quality and intensity of our coaching/coaches needs to improve vastly.

Lets be real honest here, it needs major investment, it requires coaches of a high standard who bring no baggage with them.  It requires schools, clubs, parishes, communites etc, etc, to really commit to hurling to ensure it's long term survival in this part of the world.

In Antrim, 'CLUB' is everything, the only thing! 'County', where hurling in particular is concerned, is secondary and in many respects a costly inconvenience!  The entire 'mind set' regarding hurling and how we improve it in this county has to change.  Individuals at Club and County Board level need to look beyond self preservation and embrace a major willingness to change.  I am not sure there are that many individuals in our county prepared to grasp such a nettle.   You can talk about the County board present incumbents all you want.  We have done that for years.  You can criticise, moan, begrudge and engage in major character assassinations - sure haven't we seen  and heard that all before!  In '89, we had our day in the sun and it looks like we are content with that!  Your club, my club and everybody else's club is really all that matters when it comes down to it!
My issue is not with the board incumbents but instead with the delegates who represent our clubs as they ultimately can influence change. Small minded clubs who can't see past their own gate and everybody look after their own is the road to nowhere. Clubs instead need to start working in partnership, get out there and evangelise about the game, stop intimidating people with their petty rivalries.
Rivalries should be saved until the ball is thrown in and put away afterwards.
What would that cost?
Fair enough! But do you or anyone else for that matter see the likes of St. Johns (my club) working closely with the likes of Rossa? Or can you imagine the likes of Loughgeil working in tandem/harmony with Dunloy as part of an overall aim/objective with a greater 'strategic Plan' I honestly don't think so.  Hate to sound if I am being apathetic, but being a little bit longer in the tooth than most of you fellas and also having been around a few hurling corners, I cant honestly see or envisage the necessary change required to improve our hurling lot in the near future.

For the great and necessary change to evolve, to me there would have to be serious casualties among the present personnel within the county admin and at club level also.  A fair amount of gutting out would have to take place. That may sound very radical, but believe me it would be a major prerequisite.
We have been waiting from direction from the CB for years and lets face we won't be getting any so leave that one for now. The divisional boards hold the key IMO and certain club personell would have to be gassed no matter what good short term work they are perceived to do.
Chasing juvenile silverware at all costs has to stop, that would go a long way to reducing inter club bitterness and promote co-operation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on September 09, 2009, 01:22:49 PM
Hatchet, fair play. A lot of negative people around here that would complain and point out what is wrong, but you took your time and pointed out what needs to be done to correct these wrongs. Although it may seem simple, I'm sure those ideas wouldn't have been as quickly thought up at county board, or south antrim level. Your ideas are a mirror image of your progressing club. One thing I'd like to know however, and not just about GNM, about every city club, and country for that matter. How many coaches would you say you have around the ability of say, taking a minor county team. I know there aren't too many about, and I think this is what this debate is all about, the more quality coaches we have, the better our players are going to be, simple. More things need to be carried out, the way the north antrim board have done with the Munster coaches, when was the last time this took place? This should be happening at a county level, but look how long it has taken them to act, things need to be acted upon straight away to start our slow rise to the top.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 09, 2009, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 08, 2009, 10:12:51 PM
Queenie, to be honest mate i don't have to energy o discuss anything wih someone with your attitude and typical St johns snobbery!  Trust m, we've some good men up in GNM - not enough but some good men who know their shit.  I think the problem around parochial crap and negative attitudes lies very close to the homes of people like yourself. 

Going against better judgement, i feel i need to clarify a point to you, which will be my last because you stike me as a bit of a d ickhead - my point around the strategic plan wasn't intented to teach anyone how to suck eggs - it was my opinion on what needs to happen and if you ad have read my posts a bt more clearly, you would see that i wrote something along the lines of them being meaningless unless actioned!!

Maybe your own club should concentrate on its encircling community in which you play no part whatsoever. That's what we do and we're very proud of it.

Well friend , you are entitled to your opinion!  How do you deduce that Noamh Eoin  or I  play no part in our local community.  I think it's worth rememebering chum, St. Johns was long in existence before  GNM was even thought of.  I did read your contribution and whilst I did feel there was some merit in it, I do however feel it resembles a lot of the old SF rehetoric.  Maybe you are being infiltrated by the Shinners at the 'Top of the Rock' too much and dont readily realise it.

What our county needs is radical change, a real, meaningful, workable and realistice strategy.  It needs finances and appropriate human resources who are porepared to lead, challenge and change the current staus quo.

It needs good, committed people, missionarys, not mercenaries, who will elad from the front without any underlying political or self serving club agendas.  Our you one of these people?  Are you prepared to lead from the front and challenge?  You and the likes of you can sit here and talk all day.  Lambast, ridicule and condem all you want. Your views and opinions on the GAA Board will count for nothing.  I for one am prepapred for strategic and radical change and willing to do something about it!  Can you say the same?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2009, 11:40:15 PM
Not much chance of you seeing any failings regarding that attitude and demeanour of yours there Queenie?

Do you really think you come across as a missionary?

Some advice. You need a radical change in your own attitude towards what are genuine Gaels before you do anything else to help the game. But it would appear your too blind to see that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2009, 08:32:29 AM
I think Queenie has achieved his aim coming on to the board so think best just to leave him to it.

What the story for the weekends semi final then? I have been hearing that JC might be lining out for the shams anyone confirm this?
What are the rest of the mind games being played up there, not much love lost between these two sides.

Will cushendall have a game plan for LW or will they just go man for man as usual. It is a intriguing game from a few different angles, pity it has been taken down to Ballycastle I always feel there is a lack of atmoshere at their new pitches.

IMO Cushendall by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 10, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
When will the teams be named?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2009, 10:32:58 AM
Id imagine in Loughgiels case they wont name a team to just before the game.

Cant see Cishendall's team changing much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 10, 2009, 08:20:49 PM
Paddy Power

Loughgile 8/11
Cushendall 6/5  :o



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on September 11, 2009, 08:20:44 AM
forget about that auld senior stuff. our young boys (kevin lynch,s) play ballycastle tonight at dunloy u-12 league final. thanks to the antrim board for letting us in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2009, 09:24:49 AM
Don't expect an invite next year if youse win it  ;)

All the best..thats a handy young side youse have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 11, 2009, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 09, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
You are so negatve that you can't even see that we agree on most of this.  Shinners and all that crap?? ???  I must  send you a map of the Murph and the 'Top of the Rock' so you St Johns men know where it is.  We were here before you???  How juvenile can you be?  The whole of Belfast knows that you play no direct part in the Whiterock/Ballymurphy area, in fact you abandoned the Murph!

Anyway, i do play my part in my club and in my community and am proud of it and will certainly not be answering to walt like you.  Honestly mate you're not worth the effort from here on in.

Ah you talking the greatest load of oul bolls!  Dint even suggest for 1 second that I would agree with you or your likes.  Sure you GNM people tend to encroach in all patches trying to get people to play for ya.  Sure many a good person from the Turf and surrounding areas would rather come to St. Johns and other clubs in Belfast rather than join GNM.  You GNM people just like the shinners have conned the people in that part of west Belfast.  You are now starting to latch on to all that is good in the GAA by trying to establish some sort of credibility in the Turf/Rock etc.  The sooner you stop trying to live of the backs of the young, vulnerable  and downtrodden people of Turf/Murph/Rock, the better. 

St. Johns have offered great opportunity to young people and the community as a whole in these areas before you were even born.

You're beginning to sound like a Casement Park Administrator.  Well, we have our man JM in a strong position for elevation at this years county convention, I really cant wait for it to come around.  When our man JM ousts the Doc, St Johns will be on the ascendancy again!  GNM and other clubs will fade into insignificance again.

You're very fond of the name calling by the way.  Thats a really positive contribution you make to the betterment of the GAA, isn't it!  Catch yourself on, Amadan!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 11, 2009, 11:22:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2009, 11:40:15 PM
Not much chance of you seeing any failings regarding that attitude and demeanour of yours there Queenie?

Do you really think you come across as a missionary?

Some advice. You need a radical change in your own attitude towards what are genuine Gaels before you do anything else to help the game. But it would appear your too blind to see that

So Skull, in your opinion I have failings, an attitude and portray a negative demeanour?  This is what I said :

"It needs good, committed people, missionary's, not mercenaries, who will lead from the front without any underlying political or self serving club agendas.  Our you one of these people?  Are you prepared to lead from the front and challenge?  You and the likes of you can sit here and talk all day.  Lambast, ridicule and condem all you want. Your views and opinions on the GAA Board will count for nothing.  I for one am prepared for strategic and radical change and willing to do something about it!!  Can you say the same?

Are you a missionary?  Are you prepared to change and be less self serving in terms of Dunloy?  Are you prepared to put your shoulder to the wheel and embrace radical change relating to hurling development in this county?  Of that I am not sure.  You appear to be a guy who is very self opinionated, yet refuses to see the validity in others contributions regrading hurling development.  Seems it has to be your way or no way!

When all is said and done, everyone who contributes to the Antrim hurling debate on the GAA Board as far as I can see, are making no significant contribution to the improvement and sustainability of hurling in our county.

It is easy to see why WUMs and the likes come on here to challenge what is being said by the key/guarded contributors.  Do you guys really feel your rhetoric/dialogue is making the slightest bit of difference for the advancement of Antrim hurling?  I for one don't think so at all.

It's all idle talk you are engaged in! Why is that you feel you need to challenge if a contributor is a missionary?  Are you a missionary?  Is you role/contribution in Dunloy the only thing that matters?  Come on, I am curious about your constant challenges to contributors on the Antrim forum. What is it that makes your views so much more important than others who contribute here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on September 12, 2009, 07:44:36 AM
does any one know who the ref was at the kevin lynch v ballycastle u-12  game last nite at dunloy. he was a baldy man. perfect reffing. does he do senior ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 12, 2009, 09:51:44 AM
good morning
just on your thread to ask if anyone has a spare ticket or two for the All Ireland

we have followed the minors all year and now that the big one has arrived we have nothing.

i would be very gratefull for any help.

you can contact by PM

many thanks

armagh supporter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 12, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on September 12, 2009, 07:44:36 AM
does any one know who the ref was at the kevin lynch v ballycastle u-12  game last nite at dunloy. he was a baldy man. perfect reffing. does he do senior ?

I think it was Owen Elliott.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 12, 2009, 10:31:15 PM
Off to Ballycastle tomorrow to watch Loughgeil v the Dall.  I really do have a good feeling about Loughgeil, dont know why,but just do.  I would love to see them win so they get a good crack at Dunloy in the Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 12, 2009, 10:47:32 PM
Aha Queenie, your hand declared at last, you sledge the feic out of everyone on here but now you've morphed into a hurling evangelist. Not sure you could be a leader of hurling men though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on September 13, 2009, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2009, 08:20:49 PM
Paddy Power

Loughgile 8/11
Cushendall 6/5  :o

Paddy Power must have taken a few quid for Cushendall. They now go Loughgiel 11/8 Draw 8/1  Ruairi Og 4/6.

Looking like a great day for hurling.
    
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on September 13, 2009, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2009, 08:20:49 PM
Paddy Power

Loughgile 8/11
Cushendall 6/5  :o

Paddy Power must have taken a few quid for Cushendall. They now go Loughgiel 11/8 Draw 8/1  Ruairi Og 4/6.

aye, think i'll head down, weathers great, still be cold at the 'towns' pitch but sure

Looking like a great day for hurling.
   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 13, 2009, 05:11:18 PM
heard Cushendall beat Loughgiel (even money  ;D ;D) anyone at the match?

got called to play a div 4 football match v Ballymena at Milltown Row. christ the heat was unreal on the pitch. heads burnt off me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 13, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
We won by 5 points. Was tight in first half. We were a Point up.we went up to 8 points after a Monty goal but the shamrocks pulled one back. Mick Monty got the line for dunno what.was off the ball.no Johnny Campbell. w**ker appeared in second half to give Them a Lift. No Joey Scullion. Anyone an idea what was up there? Sean d was my man of match. Some great sweeping and tackles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: anailís on September 13, 2009, 06:14:50 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall today, beat us by five in the end. Joey S has broken foot (Rossa), James Campbell has broken thumb and Johnny Campbell is coming back from a broken ankle.
Things were tight in first half, possibly Loughgiel should have went in ahead at half time, but made some costly errors/wides. Cushendall made a change at half time (?) and aerially dominated first ten mins of second half, winning the breaks, hitting three or else four unanswered points, before Loughgiel could find their range. Then Loughgiel conceded what looked like a soft goal, and things started to slide, uncharacteristic mistakes, fumbling, nerves, poor passes and decision making when the pressure was on. Cushendall benefitted then Mickey Monty got the line for something off the ball, on umpire's recommendation. Watson had come on at this stage, but failed to establish any major presence even with Cushendall a man lighter. McManus being moved back helped the Dall, and Graffin was outstanding, and have to agree with Colonel, SD also had a very good game.
It was a bridge to far for Loughgiel without their 3 starters, maybe a year out of the final might help?
No other option but to go on, for this team.
Good luck to the dall, hopefully be a good final in a fortnights time against Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 13, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
I thought it was a scrappy enough game on a perfect day for hurling. The first half in particular was very flat. Loughgiel had at least two goal chances in the first half and failed to take them as well as missing some free/65s. When CDall upped it for the first ten minutes of the second half there was only one winner. Mick Monty struck with the stick off the ball, bound to miss the final. Shane McNaugten was easily the best forward on view. Loughgiels forwards made little impression on a strong Dall back line mainly relying on Barney McAuley frees and to a lesser extent Ding Gillan. Cdall looked comfortable throughout the second half even when down to 14 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
The Dall knew how to go deep and condense their defense once they got that good lead and just drop their clearances into acres of space to pick off just a few more scores. It was 11/12 men back and 4/3 up front for the last 20 minutes which gave LG no real chance to claw back what they needed to. Made for poor viewing but they I'm sure won't give a fiddlers about that. Loughgiel looked like a side who were missing important players (because they were) and never really looked like contenders at any stage IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 13, 2009, 10:27:41 PM
Cushendall defence was dominant the majority of the game.Once McManus was moved to midfield at start of second half Cushendall turned the screw.They didn't play out of their skins but just took their scores when presented to them.Loughgiel looked exactly what they are,an average enough side admittedly missing a couple of their better players.Thought Shane McNaughton's 2nd half performance was excellent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 13, 2009, 11:16:44 PM
Ok, Ok I put my hands up, I got it wrong!  Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part that Loughgeil would win. Sure, there is always next year.  Was at the match and honestly thought it was crap, a very poor display of hurling.  Having been at last Sundays All Ireland Final and then watching todays performance, jeasus boys, seriously though,  we are light years behind.

The Dall got this one easy with so many key men for Loughgeil missing.  The Dall will have it all to do against Dunloy, some of them Dall fellas cant take a hit at all.  I thought the physicality of Loughgeil was far greater but a pity they could not convert this to scores.  I reckon our boys would have taken Cushendal on todays performance.  Us St Johns people can take a bit of stick yeah know and we are even better at dishing out.

I really am convinced we will make the Final next year, I think we have the makings of a half decent team and will contend for major hurling honours next season.  I really do think we are the only team in Belfast who are making in roads with hurling and in a position to challenge the North Antrim Teams.  This really depends on how the referees will react to our physicality and robust style of play.  Most referees in the county I really do think have it in for our senior hurling team, just look at that bollocks Garret Duffy, he sent three of our guys off in the 1/4 final at Cushendall.  That boy Mathews and Elliott seem to always have it in for us also.  Out of the three of them though, I would probably prefer Duffy.  He is more likely to let it run a bit more than the other two boys.  Elliott and Mathews, very quick to blow on technical stuff. But sure we will wait and see what happens next year.  Well we only have the County Senior Final to look forward to now.  No way am I going to the Intermediate Final to watch St. Galls and The Lamhs, most likely to be a load of shit!  The Lamhs I think will capture this one and I really do hope so. Those St. Galls feckers would be hard to stick also if the won a hurling title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 13, 2009, 11:47:58 PM
How do you use this fecking thing,  whats it all about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on September 13, 2009, 11:50:00 PM
Sorry Queenie but if anything, St Johns are going drastically downhill, when was the last time they captured a hurling trophy? Their fortunes don't look like changing any time soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 13, 2009, 11:57:11 PM
St Johns in next years final?Ffs mate pour the rest of the bottle down the sink and go to bed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 14, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
well done cushendall, they didnt play well except for a 15 min spell but im sure they arent to bothered about that. i thought it was a poor scappy game, ref had a bad one IMO and seemed to favour loughgiel on most decisions, as for the sending off - i saw it and IMO it wasnt a red card, did the ref / umpire watch last weeks game. imagine if it had off been an antrim ref and umpires last week, jeez it would have ended 5 a side.

anyway, both teams know they need to improve for the final, i just hope its a good game as im out a damn fortune and still havent seen a good game yet.

queenie stay off the wacky big man.   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 08:58:59 AM
Yeah I would agree that Cushendall cantered to the final. I wouldnt have said that it was a poor match essentially, very little more and it would have been tense and close up to the finish. If Barney had of put his effort form 8 yards out below the cross bar or Eddie McC would have kept his feet it could have been a completely different story. I knows these are 'ifs' but it just shows you how the game could have been different.
Cushendall had all the class though and when it was needed they did go through the gears, wouldnt expect them ever to be hitting big scores as it doesnt seem to be in their make up but they can be so adept at closing the space down for other teams that makes it very difficult to score against them.
Thought the sending off was very harsh considering that it will mean missing a county final over, thought the ref could have used a bit of common sense, a yellow would have done at that stage.

(Queenie, sure the championship might be on next year when some of your fella's are away on a stag party so they likely wont make the match anyway)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2009, 09:28:16 AM
Nag you can't referee games like that, if a ref deems a challenge/incident a red card he has to go regardless of what stage the championship is at. We would be the first ones crying about lack of consistency if refs don't apply the rules. A red card offence is a red card offence regardless of it being a Div 3 league game in November or a senior championship semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
Mickey didn't look too convincing in the corner yesterday so it may be a blessing for them. Has he not got the line a few times over the years for off the ball stuff (although I would never have considered him a dirty player)? Secretly LG might be slightly relieved that the "in a row" count has stopped and it may give them a chance to draw a line under that stat and push on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 09:44:10 AM
Minder I see your point (And Im not getting at the ref). But my point is that the ref in this case didnt see what happened and therefore to send someone off i that kind of situation is harsh IMO. I know you cant ref a game like that but if you compare some of the tackles that werent even fouls in the all Ireland to this, I think just  a little bit of compassion in this situation wouldnt go a miss.

Agree to a certain extent skull but dont think he was taken to the cleaners either.

Yeah maybe next year they can start a whole new series.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
Hi Skull

Some of these boys are getting a bit personal about us St. John's people.  Please use your influence and get them to cool it a little.  Ya know, we can do without that sort of abuse.  It's seems some individuals here dont like the teasing/slagging!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 14, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
Agree with most sentiments about the game, very surprised Loughgiel allowed the Cushendall attack so much room, normally loughgiel are great at condensing their own backline but in this game they left Neilly McGarry very exposed and Shane McNaughton looked very dangerous.

I thought the ref had a decent game, can't mind thinking he got much wrong.
I see Kevin Elliott came on so i'd expect if McCambridge is banned he would be the replacement and that may arguably strengthen the dall.
Thought for a minor Paddy McNaughton also hurled well in the half backs

Who'll get to ref the final now, i take it the rule still exists if you ref a semi you can't get the final or Matthews/Elliott/McIntrye/Hassan/Duffy all in with a shout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 14, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 09:44:10 AM
Minder I see your point (And Im not getting at the ref). But my point is that the ref in this case didnt see what happened and therefore to send someone off i that kind of situation is harsh IMO. I know you cant ref a game like that but if you compare some of the tackles that werent even fouls in the all Ireland to this, I think just  a little bit of compassion in this situation wouldnt go a miss.

Agree to a certain extent skull but dont think he was taken to the cleaners either.

Yeah maybe next year they can start a whole new series.  ;)

NAG1, you are a bit of a Pr--K.  Your comments are all the same, try to talk a bit of sense (a very wee bit), and then come back with a smart childish comment. It sort of sums you up, as you go about all your work the same. Say one thing and do another.

Maybe you can get the video evidence out again. Or do you only do that when it suits.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2009, 10:47:26 AM
Cusendall were the better team and deserved to win.  Karl Mc Keegan controlled the game and seemed to be able to drift of Loughgiels young centre half at will, took an age for Loughgiel management to address this for some reason.  Loughgiels downfall was that the midfield line was non existent, don't think either midfielder hit more than 3/4 balls and gave away 4/5 points from stupid frees and again was not addressed by management.  Seen the sending off offence and Micky struck of the ball so deserved to go.

Shane Mc Naughton was the best forward on show and beggars belief that we started CJ in front of him versus the Dubs.  Arron Graffin played well but Sean Delargy was the pick of the backs for Cushendall.  Barney, Duck and Eddie were only Loughgiel players to show anything.  DD Quinn dealt with 4/5 high balls brilliantly during the game.

No doubt Loughgiel will be back from this probably do them no harm being beat at this stage as opposed to the final although they would of beat Dunloy in the final IMO. Hard to look past Cushendall for the final now although I'm sure everyone outside of Dunloy will be of this opinion.

Johnny Campbell was a massive loss to Loughgiel yesterday not to mention James Campbell and Joey Scullion.  Hard to believe that Loughgiel team hasn't a Championship medal between them.  As a Loughgiel follower I'd hope for a change of management next year as don't think the current team can offer anything else but the talent is there within the club to capture a Senior title i have no doubt about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2009, 10:50:14 AM
Felt the ref had a good game yesterday and was consistent throughout particuarly with his blowing up of over carrying.  Would like to see Tommy get the final as he has had to take a backseat during Loughgiels final run but still one of the top officials
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 14, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
Agree with most sentiments about the game, very surprised Loughgiel allowed the Cushendall attack so much room, normally loughgiel are great at condensing their own backline but in this game they left Neilly McGarry very exposed and Shane McNaughton looked very dangerous.

I thought the ref had a decent game, can't mind thinking he got much wrong.
I see Kevin Elliott came on so i'd expect if McCambridge is banned he would be the replacement and that may arguably strengthen the dall.
Thought for a minor Paddy McNaughton also hurled well in the half backs

Who'll get to ref the final now, i take it the rule still exists if you ref a semi you can't get the final or Matthews/Elliott/McIntrye/Hassan/Duffy all in with a shout
Hi Max

Personally, I would give it to Duffy or Hasson.  Them other fellas are Hasbeens and wannabes, too slow, too fat, too full of themselves. I reckon Duffy is most likely to get but maybe a pay off for Tommy since Loughgeil are not in the final.  Duffy I think is the fittest and fairest of them all.  Cant really see wee Eamon Hasson getting it, sure he had a big day at Croker at the minor final.  Thankfully though, it wont be the 'Terrible one'. And then maybe, just maybe our fella will get it even though he done the Semi!  Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: wino on September 14, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 09:44:10 AM
Minder I see your point (And Im not getting at the ref). But my point is that the ref in this case didnt see what happened and therefore to send someone off i that kind of situation is harsh IMO. I know you cant ref a game like that but if you compare some of the tackles that werent even fouls in the all Ireland to this, I think just  a little bit of compassion in this situation wouldnt go a miss.

Agree to a certain extent skull but dont think he was taken to the cleaners either.

Yeah maybe next year they can start a whole new series.  ;)


NAG1, you are a bit of a Pr--K.  Your comments are all the same, try to talk a bit of sense (a very wee bit), and then come back with a smart childish comment. It sort of sums you up, as you go about all your work the same. Say one thing and do another.

Maybe you can get the video evidence out again. Or do you only do that when it suits.

Wino if you cant take a joke or a bit of slagging then you in the wrong place.

When have I said something and done another? I never said it wasnt a foul or indeed a yellow card, as I didnt see it myself but my point was coming from a merely human perspective in that I hate players missing any final. Especially when the injured party was up on his feet within seconds if the red card being issued.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM

Personally, I would give it to Duffy or Hasson.  Them other fellas are Hasbeens and wannabes, too slow, too fat, too full of themselves. I reckon Duffy is most likely to get but maybe a pay off for Tommy since Loughgeil are not in the final.  Duffy I think is the fittest and fairest of them all.  Cant really see wee Eamon Hasson getting it, sure he had a big day at Croker at the minor final.  Thankfully though, it wont be the 'Terrible one'. And then maybe, just maybe our fella will get it even though he done the Semi!  Stranger things have happened.

Queenie to Garrett

(http://www.chicagokidscompany.com/images/SnowWhite.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 14, 2009, 12:14:47 PM
Personally, I would give it to Duffy or Hasson.  Them other fellas are Hasbeens and wannabes, too slow, too fat, too full of themselves. I reckon Duffy is most likely to get but maybe a pay off for Tommy since Loughgeil are not in the final.  Duffy I think is the fittest and fairest of them all.

This really depends on how the referees will react to our physicality and robust style of play.  Most referees in the county I really do think have it in for our senior hurling team, just look at that bollocks Garret Duffy, he sent three of our guys off in the 1/4 final at Cushendall

Is it just me, or is there a contradiction in there somewhere?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 12:40:01 PM
No it's not just you. Queenie does contradiction better than anybody on here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 12:40:01 PM
No it's not just you. Queenie does contradiction better than anybody on here

Apologies, I can make mistake too ya know!  I actually meant to say Herbie (Liam McAuley) got my wires crosed here boys!
Al least I would admit to a mistake!  IN FACT, I would not have that boyo Duffy about me, as I said, look what he done to us in the I/4 final, the bollocks.

I really am a stupid bollocks but getting a bit older that you fellas!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM

Personally, I would give it to Duffy or Hasson.  Them other fellas are Hasbeens and wannabes, too slow, too fat, too full of themselves. I reckon Duffy is most likely to get but maybe a pay off for Tommy since Loughgeil are not in the final.  Duffy I think is the fittest and fairest of them all.  Cant really see wee Eamon Hasson getting it, sure he had a big day at Croker at the minor final.  Thankfully though, it wont be the 'Terrible one'. And then maybe, just maybe our fella will get it even though he done the Semi!  Stranger things have happened.

Queenie to Garrett

(http://www.chicagokidscompany.com/images/SnowWhite.jpg)

:D

Sure did you not know I prefer the male species better.  Do you think you call me 'Queenie' for nothing?  Well I suppose it's somewhat better than the wool/fleecy ones in Dunloy. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 10:51:18 AM

Personally, I would give it to Duffy or Hasson.  Them other fellas are Hasbeens and wannabes, too slow, too fat, too full of themselves. I reckon Duffy is most likely to get but maybe a pay off for Tommy since Loughgeil are not in the final.  Duffy I think is the fittest and fairest of them all.  Cant really see wee Eamon Hasson getting it, sure he had a big day at Croker at the minor final.  Thankfully though, it wont be the 'Terrible one'. And then maybe, just maybe our fella will get it even though he done the Semi!  Stranger things have happened.

Queenie to Garrett

(http://www.chicagokidscompany.com/images/SnowWhite.jpg)

:D

Sure did you not know I prefer the male species better.  Do you think you call me 'Queenie' for nothing?  Well I suppose it's somewhat better than the wool/fleecy ones in Dunloy. :D

http://phoenixcsc.com/image/BigEckShaggingSheep.jpg

Probably more your league!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 01:33:25 PM
Queenis look at what you did to yourselves before you start spouting off on another rant about a referee.

A good squad of the fella's on your team thought it more important to go on a stag party rather than prepare correctly for a championship match, end of.

Until your club gets itself together and gets some perspective then you are sadly going no where. The county fixed the game at the start of the year and they still couldnt organise the stag party around that. Where is the committment there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 14, 2009, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 01:33:25 PM
Queenis look at what you did to yourselves before you start spouting off on another rant about a referee.

A good squad of the fella's on your team thought it more important to go on a stag party rather than prepare correctly for a championship match, end of.

Until your club gets itself together and gets some perspective then you are sadly going no where. The county fixed the game at the start of the year and they still couldnt organise the stag party around that. Where is the committment there?

Fair comment NAG, but he is still a bollocks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 14, 2009, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: anailís on September 13, 2009, 06:14:50 PM
Then Loughgiel conceded what looked like a soft goal, and things started to slide, uncharacteristic mistakes, fumbling, nerves, poor passes and decision making when the pressure was on.
Loughgiel normally save this for the final lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
Queenie, fair enough but if you could in future point out specific areas in which he was wrong then, instead of leaning towards the more personal end of the spectrum
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 14, 2009, 03:37:43 PM
Lads Why must there be a load of crap talked about ref's every week. Why not talk about yesterday or up coming games at all grades.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2009, 04:01:32 PM
AFAICS it's just one man "talking a load of crap" (colonels words).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2009, 09:09:31 AM
Anybody making any predictions then for the final?

Any injuries coming from the game at the weekend Colonel?

Whats the mood in the camp like in Dunloy Max/Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:33:40 AM
Has the potential to be a great final. Two teams who have pedigree and will not give up easily. Performances up til now will not come into play come Sunday week. We're good enough to win it as are Cushendall who have the recent statistics on their side, but it's 50/50 at this stage and like any other tight game it will be those little moments of magic which will swing it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2009, 02:42:37 PM
Interesting stuff, I would say it has the potential to be a really good game. If both team can go for it and really cut lose. Dont think either team would be worried about the other on their day.

Any more chat on potential candidates for the Antrim job?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 15, 2009, 02:42:37 PM
Interesting stuff, I would say it has the potential to be a really good game. If both team can go for it and really cut lose. Dont think either team would be worried about the other on their day.

Any more chat on potential candidates for the Antrim job?

Queenie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 15, 2009, 02:42:37 PM
Interesting stuff, I would say it has the potential to be a really good game. If both team can go for it and really cut lose. Dont think either team would be worried about the other on their day.

Any more chat on potential candidates for the Antrim job?

Queenie?

Darren pleaseeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
who'd be in the 20% Skull? ::)


that could earn you a ban queenie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 15, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
who'd be in the 20% Skull? ::)


that could earn you a ban queenie

You mean you can get banned on here, are you serious pal?   How can you get banned, I am new to this and would like to know a few of the ground rules.  It does seem though that some are more offensive than others!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 15, 2009, 06:05:15 PM
Just looking over previous pages and history of postings.  There is some real crap talked abouton here.  It would appear to me that NAG, WINO and Queenie are the straight talkers and dont mix their words, they tell it as it is, my kind of people, there is no point thinking one thing and saying another.  Tell it as it is, thats my moto!


Also looks to me like others cant stand the heat in the kitchen.   Also appears there are a few individuals whpo think they have the answer to all of Antrim Hurling's ills.  Hellooooooooooooo! I dont think so chum. We are too slow, too brittle, cant take a hit, cant make a hit, not strong enough, not physical enough, and dont have the right or enough stock of quality hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 15, 2009, 02:42:37 PM
Interesting stuff, I would say it has the potential to be a really good game. If both team can go for it and really cut lose. Dont think either team would be worried about the other on their day.

Any more chat on potential candidates for the Antrim job?

I have just heard that one of my own clubmen is going to put his name in the hat for the Hurling Managers position, i.e. M. Johnston.  So what we have is a St. John's man bidding for the hurling supremos job and our own JM bidding for County Chairman.  That is sure to feck the north antrim men up for sure.  The sooner the south antrim people get their foot in the door again the better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2009, 06:17:50 PM
Is Johnson not currently serving a bumper suspension?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 06:19:56 PM
Aaahhhh feck, I see that bollocks Garret Duffy is doing our game on Saturday against Ballygalget, FFS!  What are the county trying to do, reduce us to abou six eligible hurling players.  He is bound to send another three off at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2009, 06:17:50 PM
Is Johnson not currently serving a bumper suspension?

It's amazing what you can do when you have the potential new county chairman on your side.  Them north antrim boys are fecked now!  I hope you guys will exercise your vote well at the county convention?

Enough is enough, now time for radical and professional change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 15, 2009, 06:46:58 PM
Who is this Miltown Row bloke.  Is it that p***k Kevin (Fainna Fail) McGourty?  He is a complete and utter waster, just like the yonger fella CJ.  None of those St. Galls (McGourtys) should be allowed air time anywhere after there disruptive behaviour.   The Keiran fella is the only one worth talking about. A good servant to his club and county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 15, 2009, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:33:40 AM
Has the potential to be a great final. Two teams who have pedigree and will not give up easily. Performances up til now will not come into play come Sunday week. We're good enough to win it as are Cushendall who have the recent statistics on their side, but it's 50/50 at this stage and like any other tight game it will be those little moments of magic which will swing it.

A great final, a great final I hear you say.  I hope your talking in Antrim terms.  I was at Croke last week and that was a 'great final'. 

Wipe that, it was a truly magnificent final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Who's JM running for county chair? is the doc at the end of his sentence?
Title: !Q
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:33:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Who's JM running for county chair? is the doc at the end of his sentence?

Whos JM I hear you say?  Shame on you! ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:33:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Who's JM running for county chair? is the doc at the end of his sentence?

Whos JM I hear you say?  Shame on you! ::)

just answer the fecking question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:01:43 PM
Do tell us Queenie how the "NA boys" have screwed the game of hurling (in south antrim in particular I assume) ?? ???  A bit of detail please just so we all can understand where you're coming from.

This should be good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:33:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Who's JM running for county chair? is the doc at the end of his sentence?

Whos JM I hear you say?  Shame on you! ::)

just answer the fecking question

I think he means Jim Murray (St Johns) am right queenie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 09:23:22 PM
the Doctor is getting married this year maybe he's looking to have a break for a while.

should all his ideas bear fruit then he's done a great job. if the new purposed site at Antrim gets off the ground then we will be heading towards what all the other counties have in preparing future county teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:31:10 PM
Jim Murray is McD's

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 15, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
I hadn't a clue of a JM from the Johnnies, but of course know Jim Murray
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:31:10 PM
Jim Murray is McD's

was McD's but had a fall out. these things happen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 11:15:05 PM
I thought McD's just fell out with everybody else. News to me that Jim was with StJohns now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2009, 09:20:42 AM


Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.
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Good to see a ref joining the board. I think you will find that the majority here are only interested in discussing the issues and ways to improve hurling in general.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2009, 10:47:30 AM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.

Fair play to you for joining the board and it will be interesting to hear a ref's opinion on things, i remember An Reitior (sp) was on and was good to help clarify rules.

As NAG says most of us are on to have a bit of hurling chat, some eejits too keen to make personal attacks,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 16, 2009, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 06:19:56 PM
Aaahhhh feck, I see that bollocks Garret Duffy is doing our game on Saturday against Ballygalget, FFS!  What are the county trying to do, reduce us to abou six eligible hurling players.  He is bound to send another three off at least.

Who do you want to referee it?

Will you be bringing a reserve team down the country?

Tell Jackie we've got dugouts for the subs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 11:59:32 AM
@ Queenie

you seem to big up St Johns a lot, what was your views on the reffing / umpiring on sunday past. what would you do if you saw two players digging at each other then one falls like he was shot.?  which is exactly what i saw in the sending off - no striking.

who's gonna ref the final, is either team gonna be missing players. really looking forward to it and i believe the Minor Final is now on before it, it should be a good game and i hope Loughgiel can claim the 3 in a row (i think its 3)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 16, 2009, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 11:59:32 AM
@ Queenie


who's gonna ref the final, is either team gonna be missing players. really looking forward to it and i believe the Minor Final is now on before it, it should be a good game and i hope Loughgiel can claim the 3 in a row (i think its 3)

Someone called "Speedy" did our league match v Lamh Dherg and had a sound game, let the game flow well and cut out any nonsense before it amounted to anything.  Would he be a contender for the final with Duffy?

Has it been confirmed if there will be a Minor/Senior Hurling Final double header yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 01:37:04 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 01:39:51 PM
I think that Owen or Herbie will ref the final but it will most likely be Owen. Good luck to who ever it is.

My reasoning behind this is that none of them has ever done the final. Herbie did the semi-final and its unusual for a ref to get the final after doing the semi.

I've been following this board for some time and I have to say the abuse given to refs is terrible. These guys give their time freely to facilitate the playing of games yet they are abused by particular individuals on this site.

In fact, there is more time spent discussing refs than there is discussing the awful state of hurling in Antrim.

I think that the intermediate final has the potential to be a cracking game. On the day Lamh Dhearg can put in a solid display and Naomh Gall have some very good hurlers. I think that the Milltown men will have a wee bit too much for the Hannahstown men. But how knows.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 01:39:51 PM
I think that Owen or Herbie will ref the final but it will most likely be Owen. Good luck to who ever it is.

My reasoning behind this is that none of them has ever done the final. Herbie did the semi-final and its unusual for a ref to get the final after doing the semi.

I've been following this board for some time and I have to say the abuse given to refs is terrible. These guys give their time freely to facilitate the playing of games yet they are abused by particular individuals on this site.

In fact, there is more time spent discussing refs than there is discussing the awful state of hurling in Antrim. I think that the intermediate final has the potential to be a cracking game. On the day Lamh Dhearg can put in a solid display and Naomh Gall have some very good hurlers. I think that the Milltown men will have a wee bit too much for the Hannahstown men. But how knows.

i have to disagree, they are both sopke about roughly the same amount, albeit one poster tends to talk about refs alot more than others.

i do think refs are part of the problem though, its not just one wee thing, it is alot of things that are the cause, from spectators, players, refs and county officials.

WE ARE ALL TO BLAME IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2009, 03:00:30 PM
lads

All this doom and gloom surrounding our game I think sometimes dumbs us down. Ok there are somethings which we could do better, but if you go around any ground during the summer and see hundreds of kids with their hurl in their hand we are definitely doing something right for those kids.
We need to start talking up the things that we are doing well and this will inspire change in the areas which we arent doing so well in, the standard maybe has taken a dip in the last couple of years. But in general the standard of the individual player has never really been better, in terms of touch, fitness and speed. Now I think we need to align this in the individual clubs to trying to coach and hurl to a standard which we are seeing by the better teams down south and that should be the target for everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

again i disagree - i think our clubs need to play every game with their county players, it doesnt matter what county game is coming up. playing games without the county players is IMO a large reason why the interest / competitivness in league games has diminished (sp)

i do agree with NAG's post though, i think we have a number of really talented players in our county, we need them and others playing competitive games week in week out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 16, 2009, 04:27:45 PM
lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp ;) i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 16, 2009, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 16, 2009, 04:27:45 PM
lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp ;) i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others ;D

Ray certainly referee's as he played as he was a gobshite as a player, only kidding Ray if you're still lurking  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

It's an argument that has been bandied about Tóin, but it's not a view I share and here are my reasons why.

All my points below are based on the assumption that we are not going to win the All Ireland or be anywhere close to being in the top 5/6 in the next 10 years because we lack the right sort of players at that level, so we need to STOP what we have been doing and revise what we want to achieve. It should be ALL about developing the standards

To improve the standards of club hurling in Antrim more focus needs to be given to club hurling and that means playing your strongest team against their strongest team to give the competition and the game proper respect. Playing Cushendall for example minus 6-7 county players totally devalues the competition (and that had happened year on year for nearly 20 years)

The whole notion of keeping County players away from playing club matches because of County preparations is crazy. The focus has to be on the development of the quality in the club leagues to develop more players of the quality required to jump on a bus to go down south. As Cody says to his players, the county player on a club team has to set the standard and be an ambassador for the game in his club.

If standards of coaching  (fitness and stickwork) was developed properly then club could be given a central responsibility to get County representatives to the right standard because lets be honest, the coaching players get with the County is no better (and in some cases worse) . Let County Panelist meet once a week for a Cody type match and then go back to their clubs ....surely that would save a fair bit in expenses. Let their be a 6 day rule before Senior County matches and 4 days before minor & U21. If the centre half gets injured in that club match then we just get on with it because we we never going to win the All Ireland with him so why get overly concerned about holding back club fixtures.

Our County Board should be leaders and show that they are passionate about the game of hurling. I don't see it. They piggy backed onto initiatives created by North Antrim but without the same level of communication or enthusiasm, so who knows what they do up there because we never seem to get anything NEW coming out of Casement other than the have to do stuff. If the do do anything, it's reactive rather than proactive. As a result the game is undersold. They like alot of people in clubs should be more enthusiastic in their endevours to get people to buy into new ideas or new ways of doing thing that will benefit the game.

And then onto clubs. Yes with modern communication systems now, clubs should be making more of an effort to plan in fixtures with other clubs at any opertunity to try and maintain regular fixtures for their players rather than wait for the CCCC to do everything for them and then gurn about weeks without matches


Thats my ramblings
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
that what i meant to write skull, just was to busy / lazy to go into that depth, but i totally concur regards  playing county players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:09:04 AM
Quote from: gelvis on September 16, 2009, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: Nemo on September 16, 2009, 11:59:32 AM
@ Queenie


who's gonna ref the final, is either team gonna be missing players. really looking forward to it and i believe the Minor Final is now on before it, it should be a good game and i hope Loughgiel can claim the 3 in a row (i think its 3)

Someone called "Speedy" did our league match v Lamh Dherg and had a sound game, let the game flow well and cut out any nonsense before it amounted to anything.  Would he be a contender for the final with Duffy?

Has it been confirmed if there will be a Minor/Senior Hurling Final double header yet?

Speedy!  FFS, he is anything but Speedy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.
Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 16, 2009, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 16, 2009, 04:27:45 PM
lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp ;) i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others ;D

Ray certainly referee's as he played as he was a gobshite as a player, only kidding Ray if you're still lurking  ;D ;D
You were right the first time Johnny.  A complete and utter Gobshite when he played and still is today! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.


Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.
Most of my postings are very accurate, just cut to the cahse, thats what I say!  Reilly, is a really 'Terrible One'  belive me, has not got a clue about hurling or refereeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:31:10 PM
Jim Murray is McD's

So, at last, you dont know it all!  Shame on you.  JM a McD's man!  No way, he is a fully fledged St. John's man now.  County Chairman elect and stongly opposed to the threat by the Shinners from the Upper Springfield.  JM is now strategically placed to fend of the threat of the SF infilitration at Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:24:17 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 15, 2009, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 09:31:10 PM
Jim Murray is McD's

was McD's but had a fall out. these things happen
Good man McGourty, you keep him right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.
Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.

We all credit to St Johns, I'd say they would definitely play championship even without stag party members. Not sure about County players though as they don't have to choose at the minute as far as I know.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:29:21 AM
So Mathews is doing the hurling final on Friday night.  I hear he has been in the Sauna and Gym all week trying to shed a few of the surplus pounds!  The guy is just not up with the pace.  Still time for the 'terrible one to get a call up for the line, assuming he has his hair dye done by that time!

Just for  some of the uninitiated.  I don't have a problem with all referees, just some of the pretentious/power freak ones likes, Duffy, Mathews, 'Terrible one' and wonder boy Elliott.  The rest of the guys are sound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 16, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.
Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.

We all credit to St Johns, I'd say they would definitely play championship even without stag party members. Not sure about County players though as they don't have to choose at the minute as far as I know.  ;)
And that is not a problem for us Wiseguy.  Your so full of yourself, are'nt you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Queenie on September 17, 2009, 09:35:42 AM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Queenie on September 15, 2009, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 15, 2009, 07:22:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2009, 04:57:23 PM
Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one"  :)


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.
AAAAAhhhhhhh! Terrible one!  Should not take things so personal on here,   Sure it's only full of wannabes.  And why would you think I am not a St. John's man?  Who do you think I am then, Jophn McSparran, Fankie Quinn, Tyrone Eastwood, JM maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
 :D

Still waiting on you telling us how North Antrim are have screwed up hurling Queenie. Is there any substance to your ramblings or is a bit of the oul sniping and throwing low digs all you're good for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 09:58:44 AM
Skull I think you already know the answer to that one.

So tell us this skull what role would you see the county manager having within your future proposal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 10:42:06 AM
I don't think you could call anything I've said a proposal as such NAG, more a mismash of ideas that would hopefully improve standards.

Any County Manager coming in would need to be accepting of the fact the development of standards in the game requires a period of time where focus on coaching improvement, focus on the playing & marketing of the local game takes precedence over the fortunes of the best players in the county, but that when they do get together they try to attain the highest standards of play that they can. The County Manager should be an ambassador for the game of hurling rather than a representative of Team Antrim (with his own specific agenda which may stifle proper development of the game). We all have to become less selfish when what we are doing is harming the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
Good thoughts

I am just concerned as we seem to be going for another big name from outside the county if reports are true. Someone who is coming with a big reputation is only ever going to be working for number one and not for the good of Antrim hurling in 10 - 15 years time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 11:23:51 AM
Exactly .....anyone who know anything about hurling in this County knows this is not what is needed, yet our County Board head off in search of another messiah. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 11:23:51 AM
Exactly .....anyone who know anything about hurling in this County knows this is not what is needed, yet our County Board head off in search of another messiah. Am I missing something?
Queenie and many others are right Skull, you really do talk the greatest load of aul crap.  Sure if the County Board did not go in search of an interim 'Messiah' you would be the first to complain about it, if you ask me.

Whilst I personally do not susbscribe to the short fix for Antrim hurling and whilst I would agree with some of your suggestions relating to the quality  of coaching etc.  What are we supposed to do in the meantime, stop playing hurling at competitive levels until we get better stuctures put in place?  Now what purpose would that serve?  How do you propose to deal with the selfish issues of self preserverance at club level?

Sounds to me like you should run for the county manager job.  I dont think who ever is selected will meet with your approval anyway.  What about it Skull, be a man, let you actions speak louder than your words, put your name in the hat or are you too selfish and just wish to criricise others who fail in this position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
BB

I think you should read his post again and then come back with an arguement that makes sense in relation to what skull said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:00:47 PM
Has something I said offended you in some way BB. Whats with the attitude?

Whenever you can provide a concise perspective on what you think needs to be done and why then I'll reply although you'd do well to see if you can find any reference I made to stop playing hurling at compeditive levels before you start. I'll let you have the floor for a while if you are able to say anything constructive. Lets be having you.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:00:47 PM
Has something I said offended you in some way BB. Whats with the attitude?

Whenever you can provide a concise perspective on what you think needs to be done and why then I'll reply although you'd do well to see if you can find any reference I made to stop playing hurling at compeditive levels before you start. I'll let you have the floor for a while if you are able to say anything constructive. Lets be having you.

Stop evading the issues/questions Skull.  !!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
I have said I will reply whenever you give us all your concise perpsective on what you feels needs to be done across the whole spectrum of hurling in Antrim. Am I asking too much of you?

Again WTF is with the attitude?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2009, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 10:51:02 AM
Good thoughts

I am just concerned as we seem to be going for another big name from outside the county if reports are true. Someone who is coming with a big reputation is only ever going to be working for number one and not for the good of Antrim hurling in 10 - 15 years time.

That's the thing, any county manager either from within the county or outside it will be judged solely on the results of the county team, just ask Sambo and Woody. To that aim if they had their way, the county squad would be training 4 to 5 nights a week (with the county only) and be held in cotton wool for county games. Understandable IMO.

It's really up to the clubs to drive the agenda with the county board to strike a balance in terms of playing club games with or without the county players. It's all too easy to say clubs should play minus county players but if the club has six, maybe seven players away with the county even the standard of club training drops let alone during games. Club managers too are judged on results and want their best available every time and in the middle are the players being pulled from pillar to post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 17, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:00:47 PM
Has something I said offended you in some way BB. Whats with the attitude?

Whenever you can provide a concise perspective on what you think needs to be done and why then I'll reply although you'd do well to see if you can find any reference I made to stop playing hurling at compeditive levels before you start. I'll let you have the floor for a while if you are able to say anything constructive. Lets be having you.

Stop evading the issues/questions Skull.  !!!!!!!!!!


Quite clear then what Ballbusters objectives are.  Name like that your only here to stir things up and talk pure pish.  By singling out MR, Skull and someone else in your first post, you immediately set your targets on who to annoy.  Sort of boy that sits at the bar telling the young ones that "when I was playing it wouldn't have been done like that at all..."

Colonel what ever happened to that young Brick fella, thought he was back hurling for youse again this year?  Seemed like the boy to have made the difference in the A.I. semi last year as youse were one panel member off Croker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 02:47:59 PM
Apparently has done his cruciate ligament in a league against St Johns from what I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.

Just curious MITM, one of my bug bears as the rest of the lads on here will testify to is this business of pulling the ball on in the air. It is one that I feel that the refs have difficulty in determining someone who is going for the ball and someone who is pulling early and low just to do damage.
Is this something that is raised at meetings between yourselves or what is your view on it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 17, 2009, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.

Well said, sir.  Who is the "we" in "we all"? Is it a group of refs, players, officials?

Delighted that Speedy got the Junior final and young Cunning has potential so all in all good calls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 17, 2009, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.

Well said, sir.  Who is the "we" in "we all"? Is it a group of refs, players, officials?

Delighted that Speedy got the Junior final and young Cunning has potential so all in all good calls.

Some of us decided to make it a collective forum to give a more realistic view so to speak, each to their own but at the same time not take or engage in any old S*** that some posters like to throw!!

Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2009, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.

Just curious MITM, one of my bug bears as the rest of the lads on here will testify to is this business of pulling the ball on in the air. It is one that I feel that the refs have difficulty in determining someone who is going for the ball and someone who is pulling early and low just to do damage.
Is this something that is raised at meetings between yourselves or what is your view on it?

Thats always a difficult one NAG, because as MR said some of us Refs played and some stopped at an earlier stage, it does come down to interpretation and Intent, i.e. Did the player intend to inflict injury or was it dangerous to an opponent/play etc etc. have no wish to get technical/rule bookie over it, thats not whats its about. Look at Micko Heron as a perfect example, great skill etc he uses 1 handed swings, he has the skill for this and 9 times out of 10 he doubles perfectly, however some of my cooleagues may see this as Danger to an opponent, i do not personally, my view is that he has the skill to perform the action with no intended malice, again others may disagree and here lies the bug of all "Consistency" among Refs. My National Colleagues i feel would tend to let it go. Hope thats a start Nag
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 17, 2009, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: gelvis on September 17, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:00:47 PM
Has something I said offended you in some way BB. Whats with the attitude?

Whenever you can provide a concise perspective on what you think needs to be done and why then I'll reply although you'd do well to see if you can find any reference I made to stop playing hurling at compeditive levels before you start. I'll let you have the floor for a while if you are able to say anything constructive. Lets be having you.

Stop evading the issues/questions Skull.  !!!!!!!!!!


Quite clear then what Ballbusters objectives are.  Name like that your only here to stir things up and talk pure pish.  By singling out MR, Skull and someone else in your first post, you immediately set your targets on who to annoy.  Sort of boy that sits at the bar telling the young ones that "when I was playing it wouldn't have been done like that at all..."

Colonel what ever happened to that young Brick fella, thought he was back hurling for youse again this year?  Seemed like the boy to have made the difference in the A.I. semi last year as youse were one panel member off Croker.

He done his cruciate after about 10 minutes in his championship debut this year against South Antrim, real pity, had been going well. Would have been a regular starter all year if fit. Prob won't be back until May next year. He was on the line on Sunday past so its good that he's staying about. Kind of player we need for the future. Still u21 next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 17, 2009, 04:24:56 PM


Some of us decided to make it a collective forum to give a more realistic view so to speak, each to their own but at the same time not take or engage in any old S*** that some posters like to throw!!


MITM, what does that man? Is iT that a group of refs have got together and are posting under the name of MITM?

I agree with your views in not taking any sh1t. Each ref gives his time freely and offers a service to this county and for good or ill they deserve our respect.

Personally, I hope Tommy gets the final as he has been out of the running for the last few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 04:45:40 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 17, 2009, 04:24:56 PM


Some of us decided to make it a collective forum to give a more realistic view so to speak, each to their own but at the same time not take or engage in any old S*** that some posters like to throw!!


MITM, what does that man? Is iT that a group of refs have got together and are posting under the name of MITM?

I agree with your views in not taking any sh1t. Each ref gives his time freely and offers a service to this county and for good or ill they deserve our respect.

Personally, I hope Tommy gets the final as he has been out of the running for the last few years.

Well whoever gets it will i am sure want to do their best, no-matter what the opposing teams or supporters think. N0-one goes out to make a hash of it, their nerves will be shattered, just like the players no difference at all. After all its a county final for them also and people should remember that TG.As players all wish they have a great game, so too does the Referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2009, 12:26:00 PM
I have said I will reply whenever you give us all your concise perpsective on what you feels needs to be done across the whole spectrum of hurling in Antrim. Am I asking too much of you?

Again WTF is with the attitude?

Language please!  As I said I agree with a lot of what you have said about hurling development pertaining to quality coaching etc.  The Senior Hurler, Club v County dilema is a major contentious issue and sadly the clubs requirements will always prevail. 

No I dont think your asking too much at all, but I sense your attitude is somewhat abrasive and threatening.

Do you not have your pops and snide remarks at individuals who post here.  From what I can see, I am maybe in dialouge with the Godfather of the GaaBoard - Antrim Hurling forum?  I have e-mails passed on to me stating that you are the one who sanctions on who participates in this forum, so I suppose you really are the Don!

Remember though, I am a 'BallBuster'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 17, 2009, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 17, 2009, 02:48:40 PM
Jesus Queenie, what is your problem, be constructive at least about your issue with the Refs. Matthews, Elliott, Duffy, MC Intyre and Liam(Herbie) are the national referees in the county. All the lads work hard at their games, and Tommy has a even bigger problem with the admin and appointments. Christ its nearly a FT occupation, MR! Colm Cunning is now doing the Intermediate, Ray is injured and may be out for some time, Speedy is doing the junior and we all feel that Tommy or Owen will get the Senior. Now that stops all the guesswork. Minor may go to Liam and M "B" is anybodys guess.

Why take a pop at Rays personal situation, whatever you feel he may or may not look like has now relevance on his experience and ability to control a good game, catch a grip Queenie and lets have a constructive approach and we will engage if the issues are relevant.
HI MITM

Yo must be a ref I take it.  Mathews, Elliott or The 'Terrible One' most likely.  Is you pic in the Atown News not enough for you?

Queenie will have to watch himself/herself now!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 18, 2009, 08:56:44 AM
MITM, fair point about the ref's nerves being shattered before the County Final.

However, you haven't answered the question. Is MITM a ref on his own or a group of refs?

The reason I ask is that when we do have questions, and I'm sure that we will, we will know if we are directing them to an individual or are we getting the considered opinion of a group of our leading officials.

Good luck to everybody in tonight's finals. The Lamh Dhearg V St Galls match should be a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tóin ghruagach on September 18, 2009, 08:57:40 AM
Has anybody any info on the propsed 125 dinner in Nov?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 18, 2009, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 18, 2009, 08:57:40 AM
Has anybody any info on the propsed 125 dinner in Nov?

This has been on the county website for a couple of weeks - http://antrim.gaa.ie/uploads/assets/125dinner.pdf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: Tóin ghruagach on September 18, 2009, 08:57:40 AM
Has anybody any info on the propsed 125 dinner in Nov?

Hi there old 'Hairy Hole'  - thats a strange name pal, you could get banned for that.

Yeah, wear a clean suit, collar and tie, bring plenty of money for the drink and some condoms, just in casey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 18, 2009, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 18, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
Jesus, what is the craic with all these new posters coming on with an attitude and looking for a ruckus?  The hoganstand mustn't be posting any of your juvenile crap anymore so you have all come here instead.  This used to be a place for good discussion and debate - now it seems that there's a bunch of cheeky d**kheads on trying to stir everyone up.  No need for it whatsoever!

FS lads, just relax and stop looking for a fight

here here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on September 18, 2009, 02:07:36 PM
I dont post a lot on this thread but i read it a good bit. it seems every so often someone who writes very similarly to others have been banned turns up and starts a load of nonsense. conversations with themselves etc.  The writing style of the few appear to be very similar, so it may not be 'boys' but just one boy. makes it a bit dull.

Anyway, what are the predictions for the c'ship finals? not sure about the junior but id say st.galls and the dall win win the other two.  Both will more than likely win ulster aswell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Hatchet...asking boys like Queenie and his sidekick to relax is pointless. They obviously have their agenda to try and rile...so common sense will not influence their behaviour too much.

I put a fair amount of detail into a post a page or two back about how in Antrim we should be focused solely on the development of standards over the next lot of years and what I think that would entail. I wouldn't mind hearing your comments on it. Something more informative and less schizophrenic than BB's comments would be great.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
where has Hardstation gone? last post on the 12th!!!

is he Ballbeg?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on September 18, 2009, 02:07:36 PM
I dont post a lot on this thread but i read it a good bit. it seems every so often someone who writes very similarly to others have been banned turns up and starts a load of nonsense. conversations with themselves etc.  The writing style of the few appear to be very similar, so it may not be 'boys' but just one boy. makes it a bit dull.

Anyway, what are the predictions for the c'ship finals? not sure about the junior but id say st.galls and the dall win win the other two.  Both will more than likely win ulster aswell.

There is no such thing as a 'bad boy' chum.  Circumstances and alledged people of influence, role models just make them seem bad!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Hatchet...asking boys like Queenie and his sidekick to relax is pointless. They obviously have their agenda to try and rile...so common sense will not influence their behaviour too much.

I put a fair amount of detail into a post a page or two back about how in Antrim we should be focused solely on the development of standards over the next lot of years and what I think that would entail. I wouldn't mind hearing your comments on it. Something more informative and less schizophrenic than BB's comments would be great.

Maybe some people are just not interested in reading Your comments/Your ideas on the future development needs of Antrim Hurling.  I am sure if posters on this thread were interested they would have responded willingly, if there was any merit or substance to what you are saying.

Seems you have reached a stage of trying to coherse posters to read your contributions, doing the hard sell and all that! 

FFS lads, just all chill out! Life in Antrim is serious enough without all of this serious stuff. 

Skull, just wondering if you ever considered putting your ideas suggestions forward to the County Board.  Unless you do something like this, I honestly dont think your rantings will get the hearing you maybe expect it to have.  Posting on this thread also I dont think will carry much weight or substance to your proposals.

Schizophrenic - No!  Honest, frank and straight talking - Yes.  You really should not feel threatened by this.  You need to relax a little.  If you are suggesting I am a sidekick/cohort of that Queenie fella, your absolutely wrong.   I would never wish to be associated wit a St. John's man.  I have no time for the Huns!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Whats the chances  of Gregory O'Kane running for the County Hurling Managers post.  I see he has parted ways with Jordanstown.

A case of another Dunloy man in pursuit of the 'crock of gold' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 04:56:01 PM
Just heard this afternoon from a very reliaible source MITM is the 'TERRIBLE ONE'  along with Duffy!

that really should be interesting!!!!!! :o


Just on my way to Casement early, a few things need sorting out before tonights games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 18, 2009, 09:14:14 PM
MR, MR, MR what are you doing chum.  Balls being pucked up the middle of the park each time tonight by your keeper, straight in to the hands of Micko, sure a blind man would have seen that one.  The mind games of bringing Karl Stweart down onto the line did not work also.  St. Galls were indeed very lucky to come a way with a draw tonight, very lucky indeed.  The CJ fella needs a dose of the courage pills also, he hid all night and very rarely contested or won a ball for ye!  You can be thankful Aidan Gallagher was on song.

St Galls were sluggish in the second half and failed to get out of the blocks.  Some good indivdual effort but lacked cohesion as a team.

Lamh Dhearg fully deserved their draw.

A game which was near lost on the line, IMO!   >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2009, 12:05:43 AM
Lamhs did deserve a draw no doubt, cant remember a game were we've played lamhs and won by more than two. 5 up at half time and 7 up with 5 minutes to go!! but fair play to Lamhs, i'm sure the replay will be just as tough.

big result tonight for Rasharkin, they were great and deserved their win. i hope they do well in the Ulster Championship

ballbeg, i'll take onboard your observations, you've great insight into the game of hurling and this should not be wasted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BallBuster on September 19, 2009, 10:14:43 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 19, 2009, 12:05:43 AM
Lamhs did deserve a draw no doubt, cant remember a game were we've played lamhs and won by more than two. 5 up at half time and 7 up with 5 minutes to go!! but fair play to Lamhs, i'm sure the replay will be just as tough.

big result tonight for Rasharkin, they were great and deserved their win. i hope they do well in the Ulster Championship

ballbeg, i'll take onboard your observations, you've great insight into the game of hurling and this should not be wasted

Always glad to help and offer advice to a 'minnow' in the game!  Maybe Skull (the learned one) will give you a hand on the line at the replay!!!!!!!!!!!.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 19, 2009, 10:32:42 AM
BB you sound very like Q? Notice writing similarities? At least you have left the 2 Refs alone from the games last night.TG or should i say HH, what difference does it make how many people are contributing through MITM, at last some of us can contribute and give our side, you curiosity sounds like a Ref that was,nt asked ;) Your Irish is perfect by the way, congratulations, all i can do is sign my name :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2009, 11:46:24 AM
thanks for insight I'll use it like balbegs.

i can tell you've made telling decisions before, your insight into the game can't be measured please PM with your thoughts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2009, 02:56:29 PM
So when will the replay be milltown...cant be this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 19, 2009, 05:37:27 PM
Not sure when replay will be, more than likely wed week, would suit us better as the footballers are playing on Sat night.

the Ulster championship starts on the 11 of October so the Antrim winners need to be decided before that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 20, 2009, 11:10:08 AM
I,d say your right MR, Wednesday week has been penciled in at the moment. Will KS be fit enough for the replay or is it a wait and see scenario? Great weekend to look forward to Saturday and Sunday, seems the football may be easier to call than the Hurling. MR whats the draw in Ulster should you come through the replay which I expect?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 20, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
Fermanagh Champions Lisballaw Brewster park on the 11th. will KS be ready? he'll let us know in a week. he could have played the last 5 minutes, didn't think we'd need him with being 7 up. thats hurling for ya.

will be another close affair. Lamhs played really well, and we should be better for it with having a game played at high tempo. no offence to St Teresa's and Glenarm but a lot of our lads could not get up for those games. they were given a fright on Friday night and had there been extra time i think we would have lost.

having watched the game from a different perspective, what was it like to watch as a neutral. was it a poor standard game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
so lads whats the verdicts for the final then, whats the good word?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 21, 2009, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 20, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
Fermanagh Champions Lisballaw Brewster park on the 11th. will KS be ready? he'll let us know in a week. he could have played the last 5 minutes, didn't think we'd need him with being 7 up. thats hurling for ya.

will be another close affair. Lamhs played really well, and we should be better for it with having a game played at high tempo. no offence to St Teresa's and Glenarm but a lot of our lads could not get up for those games. they were given a fright on Friday night and had there been extra time i think we would have lost.

having watched the game from a different perspective, what was it like to watch as a neutral. was it a poor standard game?

I would,nt say poor, some great individual performances on both sides. If you don,t mind me saying/suggesting i would play CJ in the half back line and nowhere else, I think he would be a Revelation to you and it would help his game tremendously. Only my opinion MR for what its worth. Your N0 9 the last night is not a midfielder, loose ball man. Give him a free role in the full/half forward line staying wide all the time, he looks like he would run all night and gives CJ a moving target and your half backs a continual option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 21, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2009, 02:51:37 PM
I go away for a week and milltown has recruited gaaboard selectors.
:D

aye i've a band of selectors alright? i asked what the game looked like from the stand as neutral, and have been given points from everyone. still waiting on few to get back to me ;D



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on September 21, 2009, 01:48:50 PM
How's it going people? Was offline there for a while, signal ran out up in the hatchetfield! I'll get back to you on that Skull when i've a bit of time to.  IHC final - Lamhs i'd say have had their chance and KS i hear will be ok for it. Having said that, no offence MR but i don't think Galls are as good as they were a few years back and i suppose what the IHC has proved is that it is indeed their standard - i don't think we're class either by the way in case you think i'm getting above my station!

We've two matches left - had two facile wins over Tir na nog and Clooney Gaels which just leaves us Galls and Glenarrife - we still can go up!

The table should have us level with youse but with 2 games in hand as we beat Glenarm handily on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 21, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
ruairiog.com has the senior final down for 3.15 on sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2009, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
ruairiog.com has the senior final down for 3.15 on sunday.

The Antrim site has the minor match down for 8am so it will be an early start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2009, 10:50:15 PM
according to county website...Minor match is at 1.30pm & a certain Mr Terry Reilly is the ref. f**k we're going to have to listen to some shite now. Eoin Elliott doing the senior final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2009, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2009, 11:00:22 PM
Good luck to both refs and all the teams involved.

We need a bit of love on this thread.

Even the fence jumpers in the minor match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 22, 2009, 09:26:02 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 21, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2009, 02:51:37 PM
I go away for a week and milltown has recruited gaaboard selectors.
:D

aye i've a band of selectors alright? i asked what the game looked like from the stand as neutral, and have been given points from everyone. still waiting on few to get back to me ;D





MR my esteemed colleague obviously felt he could make a few suggestions on what he witnessed, to answer your question "How did it Look from the Neutrals point of view", I would liken it to meeting a great looking bird, ploughing her with drink all night, the anticipation of getting her back to your pad is killing you , then you get her home only to find out underneath she has a pair of Balls!!!!  It promised everthing and delivered nothing but disappointment, i hope the replay will be worth the entrance fee. The "Brian Cody" look on the line does,nt suit you ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2009, 10:01:59 AM
Quote from: The man in the middle on September 22, 2009, 09:26:02 AM
MR my esteemed colleague obviously felt he could make a few suggestions on what he witnessed, to answer your question "How did it Look from the Neutrals point of view", I would liken it to meeting a great looking bird, ploughing her with drink all night, the anticipation of getting her back to your pad is killing you , then you get her home only to find out underneath she has a pair of Balls!!!!  It promised everthing and delivered nothing but disappointment, i hope the replay will be worth the entrance fee. The "Brian Cody" look on the line does,nt suit you ;)

First of all you'd have to question why a prominent adams apple and big hands is attractive to you
Second...have you always found that you have to get "women" comatosed drunk to convince them to go out with you?
And most importantly from a refereeing point of view.....the refs down south would let this type of indiscretion go to keep the game going  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 22, 2009, 11:13:04 AM
Forgetting about referees,times and venues lets get down to the two games.I reckon Cushendall and Rossa both by five or six points.Discuss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
If St Galls get heavily involved in the Ulster Football championship it will suit us, we have to play them twice yet. Our fellas are still training away so shouldn't get caught out in the "easier" games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 22, 2009, 06:12:35 PM
We reckon that allowing for the odd bit of advantage being played that Loughguile should pip the Minor by 3/4 Pt's (To cute for the Rossa lads) ;) and the Dall should romp home with the possibility of it becoming a bit of a dull game, sorry Skull that would be the general consensus of the group, bar 1 !

The football should be an automatic WO for the Milltown men, the concern is Madden and what is that head gear he is wearing? Does it relate to his previous condition and if so, is he covered to play? Its an awful risk, especially if Andy or Brads meet him square on, would,nt want that on my conscious the rest of my days. Anyone know what he is wearing? We will have to seek clarification from the county before the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 22, 2009, 11:07:53 PM
brought this question up already, is he safe to play? this will be a fair step up in terms of intensity and tackling.

but sure if he's up to the task and Ports do well then its a risk worth taking.

the Dall should win but will be closer than expected.

i see Tommy McIntyre is doind the Galls Lamhs match on tues night. i know he was maybe thinking that he'd be doing the senior game but he's a quality referee and will be in control from the start.

also thought that (Skinny) Cunning did a great job and is one for the future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 23, 2009, 11:53:07 AM
I agree that we do have some very good, fit referee's in the county,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2009, 12:00:11 PM
Whats the verdict on Sunday then Max?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 23, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
I haven't commented on any of our games to date, so relunctant to do so.  but the facts are there, we have scrapped through Glenarriffe and ballycastle (a team fighting relegation and a Div 2 team) where Cushendall have breezed to the final, crushing loughgiel.

They are the Champions and the favourites, and rightly so,

I think the match will be won in the ulgys, the hooking/blocking/pulling/stopping.  Cushendall for all their hurling are also excellent at that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The man in the middle on September 23, 2009, 01:15:11 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 22, 2009, 11:07:53 PM
brought this question up already, is he safe to play? this will be a fair step up in terms of intensity and tackling.

but sure if he's up to the task and Ports do well then its a risk worth taking.

the Dall should win but will be closer than expected.

i see Tommy McIntyre is doind the Galls Lamhs match on tues night. i know he was maybe thinking that he'd be doing the senior game but he's a quality referee and will be in control from the start.

also thought that (Skinny) Cunning did a great job and is one for the future

You dead right MR, Colum  had an excellent game! very clinical in his approach. Thats why he headen for bigger things and that hes under 30 of course >:( Don,t leave it too long MR before you pull the black on again, good to see you get more involved on our side in the future, you will enjoy it. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
I see Paddy Power have not made a balls of pricing the match as they did last year and for this years semi final with Loughgile

Cushendall 1/2
Dunloy 7/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 23, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
it was 4/5 earlier today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2009, 10:44:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 23, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
it was 4/5 earlier today

With PP? I checked about 6pm and that was the odds, still the same now. Won't be touching it at those prices.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 23, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
yeah im quite sure it was that earlier minder, or 4/6 one of the two with PP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 24, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 23, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
I haven't commented on any of our games to date, so relunctant to do so.  but the facts are there, we have scrapped through Glenarriffe and ballycastle (a team fighting relegation and a Div 2 team) where Cushendall have breezed to the final, crushing loughgiel.

They are the Champions and the favourites, and rightly so,

I think the match will be won in the ulgys, the hooking/blocking/pulling/stopping.  Cushendall for all their hurling are also excellent at that
Cushendall are comfortably the best team in the county at tackling,blocking,hooking etc thats why no one runs up a big score against them ( when it is championship, league games in April May do not count ). I expect a tight low scoring game with C Dall winning by 1-11 to 0-11 say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 25, 2009, 04:34:58 PM
should be a a good game, Cushendall by 4.

the minor match will be very good also. i fancy Rossa for this one.

the county will be  getting twenty quid off me over the weekend!! tenner in to both games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
Ah sure you wouldn't begrudge it MR, hope Rasharkin get the Minor B to go with the Junior in their Centenary year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
ok final predictions,

Rossa to win minor final in a classic

and Cushendall to overcome Dunloy by 5 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
Dunloy 3-5
Cushendall 0-7 HT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
ok final predictions,

Rossa to win minor final in a classic

and Cushendall to overcome Dunloy by 5 points.
You're half right so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2009, 04:58:30 PM
Dunloy 3-14
Cushendall 1-13 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: girt_giggler on September 27, 2009, 05:28:42 PM
Poor match,dunloy never look troubled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2009, 05:31:37 PM
Big shock to anyone outside Dunloy, and probably to a few in the village too. They certainly saved their best til last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2009, 06:03:10 PM
Quote from: girt_giggler on September 27, 2009, 05:28:42 PM
Poor match,dunloy never look troubled

I have never seen the Dall as bad, if you keep Mc Manus and Shane Mc Naughton quiet there isn't much else to worry about in the Cushendall forward line. Have to say Dick O'Kane was tremendous, gave a masterclass. Magee gave as good a goalkeeping display as I have seen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2009, 06:29:40 PM
Dunloy played really well. sharper on the ball and Paddy Richmond was in good form, caught some ball of Scullion. Dick O'Kane give a masterclass at left half forward. caught most puck outs and give good ball to his team mates.

Dunloy though managed to kill time with going down after scores, slowed the game down and it never really hit top gear.

thought Owen got one penalty right, the other two were not, IMHO.

McGee was great in nets and that makes a big difference. Cushendall's famous defence let in three goals. seems McCambridge's red card hurt more than what most on here thought.

minor match was a good game, second half Loughgiel fell apart and Rossa got the goals.

did anyone notice that Loughgiel had a man sent off? then Loughgiel put on a sub but failed to have 14 men??? bit of a balls up as Loughgiel scored a goal while having a 'extra man' had Rossa lost by a point how would that have worked out?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ABS on September 27, 2009, 07:29:10 PM
Well done to Rossa and Dunloy, it will be quiet in the Pound tonight...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 27, 2009, 07:34:30 PM
Maybe it's just me but I thought the standard in the minor was poor and apart from a few 5 minute spells certainly didnt look like a championship final. Havent seen much minor this year but expected a bit more class from both teams.
Dunloy were excellent no doubt enjoying the underdogs tag, Dick O'K was powerful and most of the rest of the boys worked their balls off raising the intensity to a level the Dall couldnt work with.
Things were a bit ropey at the back at times but with a keeper like mcgee on form it didnt really matter. Of course the enigmatic Paddy richmond was on fire and when that happens Dunloy are usually unstoppable as it seems to really rub off on the rest of the forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 27, 2009, 08:19:46 PM
Congratulations to Dunloy, and I have to hold my hands up and say I did not see it coming. Victories as an underdog are the sweetest kind so I am sure it will be a good few days for all Dunloy folk. Well deserved by all the team but especially Dick O Kane, 11 championships over 20 seasons, some going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 27, 2009, 08:48:39 PM
That was a good result for Rossa today alright, when was the last time Rossa won the minors?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2009, 08:50:59 PM
Dunloy were by far the better team. Still the old guys doing all the damage.

The Cushendall defense looked in a good bit of disarray and were very ponderous with their first touches meaning they got closed down all the easier and dunloy were able to win ball and take scores off them.

Malachy Molloy was great too, He made some catches. I'm not sure if he was moved off McManus as McManus was doing damage on him? Cushendall only had four or five boys who played like they could. There are weak links in that team and Dunloy showed that. They're still a good team - just not a great one.

Last time Rossa minors won was about 99 I think? The youngest Close Brian scored 7-1 or 7-2 in the final! No that is not a typo either!

The minor game was poor enough I thought too. Loughgiel looked better first half and Rossa were way better second half. Not sure if that was because of two sucker goals and Loughgiel dropping the head. I think Rossa very much had the legs on them though.They had 15 boys on the field after a sending off for a brief period of time when they got the goal alright MR. Jim Close was going mental with the linesman after it. He was right beside it so really should have noticed it. McGuinness and the no 7 and 12 were excellent for Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2009, 09:23:02 PM
Where is Brian Close at now HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 28, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Congratulations to Dunloy they played brilliantly and looked like the Dunloy of old.  I had them completely written of after the Glenariffe game.  Funny old game hurling.  I'd say there was partying done in the bridge last night.

Our minors stopped in the second half.  Thought the minor game was poor enough fair didnt seem like a championship final in terms of atmosphere or quality.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 28, 2009, 10:55:32 AM
I was away home with 10-15 minutes left in the senior game, as it was clearly all over at that stage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2009, 12:26:15 PM
Afternoon  :)

Great game yesterday. A real 15 man performance after a shakey first 10 minute spell. Magee was simply outstanding and to be truthful kept us in it in those early stages as we over committed on a few balls and left ourselves badly exposed. After that we settled brilliantly and from then we played as well as any Dunloy team in a County final. It was a joy to watch and was no surprise to anyone who knew the potential in our side. I'm a happy man today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Any craic on September 28, 2009, 12:36:19 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/ (http://antrim.gaa.ie/) - great video pictures from Dunloy's win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2009, 02:09:49 PM
That is mighty stuff. Shows what it's all about in a single video clip. Cheers Jerome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 28, 2009, 04:36:43 PM
Delighted, absoltely thrilled and not just a wee bit hungover. 

I said on Friday i thought the game would be won in the ulgys, and i think that held true, Dunloy forwards gave Cushendall no time on the ball and that pressure play reaped dividends

i thought magee, dick, ally and malachy were exceptional but we know they do that in county finals, the real pride from a dunloy perspective was the performances of sean dowds, paddy doc, darren quinn, kevin molloy.  young players who weren't found wanting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 29, 2009, 10:46:10 AM
Back to the daily grind today, I have to say i enjoy the craic the day after a Championship win much more than the actual celebrations that night.  I think our managers have to take alot of credit for this win, alot of the big calls they made worked,

Paddy Richmond had been hurling exceptionally well in midfield but they felt he could be more effective in full forward, the move of Sean Dowds to wing forward worked wonders and even taking Malachy out from centre back seemed to bring the best out of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2009, 04:22:55 PM
Have any of the Cushendall posters come out of hiding yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 30, 2009, 10:12:38 AM
M.R. must be stilll hungover from last night. Otherwise, we would have heard about his strategic plans to land the SFC / SHC double in 2010 by now.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on September 30, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
Has any club ever come close to winning both, or won both senior hurling and football in the same year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 30, 2009, 01:09:33 PM
I'd say both the Johnnies and Rossa have done it on loads of occasions, but not since the 70s at the latest.

Don't think anyone else has competed seriously in both at the same time - Dunloy winning football titles in the 30s and hurling in the 90s to date would be the only other club that has done both, although come to think of it dont Sarsfields have one hurling title and a good few football titles to their name?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 30, 2009, 01:26:32 PM
Dunloy got to the semi finals of the senior football championship quite a few times in the 90's when we had that super hurling team too.  Very close to beating Cargin over in Rasharkin one very wet day.  And before the great St Galls dynasty anyone could have won a SFC if they got a good run.

Some of our hurlers are also excellent footballers, particularly the two O'Kanes, Patch, Mal Molloy and Niggy Elliott

In those days football training in Dunloy was completely unheard off (except poss the week of a game), now football training is given more time and as a result very few players can commit to both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 30, 2009, 01:46:10 PM
St. John's were the last team to win both Senior C'ships in the same year - back in 1969.

List of winners (up to 2006) here: http://antrim.gaa.ie/history/senior-championship-winners/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 30, 2009, 02:10:45 PM
Hangover just wore off

no defending our lads from Sunday. Poor display and dont really agree with the thoughts of those who said we thought we only had to run up. That would be disrepectful to Dunloy. We were confident of a win, but just didn't perform, however if would had taken one or two of the goal chances in the first 10 minutes, it could have been a better game.

Fair play to Dunloy, fully deserved and all the best in Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peggy on October 01, 2009, 04:22:35 AM
why would anyone from cushendall be hiding?? ??? because they were beat in 1championship final out of the last 4 theyve been in? sure if that was the case the shamrocks would never be able to speak!
Dunloy gave a performance on sunday that was worthy of winning our county championship and done so....Cushendall didnt turn up on the day and it wasnt a case of under estimating Dunloy, there is just no excuse..... post mortem monday is over, the better team won.  Good Luck to Dunloy in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on October 01, 2009, 08:37:23 AM
Quote from: Peggy on October 01, 2009, 04:22:35 AM
why would anyone from cushendall be hiding?? ??? because they were beat in 1championship final out of the last 4 theyve been in? sure if that was the case the shamrocks would never be able to speak!
Dunloy gave a performance on sunday that was worthy of winning our county championship and done so....Cushendall didnt turn up on the day and it wasnt a case of under estimating Dunloy, there is just no excuse..... post mortem monday is over, the better team won.  Good Luck to Dunloy in Ulster.

i would have to agree with that peggy, Dunloy hurled out of their skins and Cushendall didnt turn up. but then again it was Minder who posted it and he is the forum idiot after all.

overall a poor championship IMO though, standard really needs to get better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2009, 09:52:46 AM
For Cushendall maybe, but in that regard would you not say that last years was worse for youse when you consider your run in the championship. You can only beat whats put in front of you I know...but last year was an easy championship for the dall I think you'd agree?

I wouldn't say it was a bad championship from our side of the draw. Although I'd agree we didn't play well in both the quarters and semi's, they were two difficult matches and games we could have lost. That was a good build up for us. I think we're too sore on ourselves sometimes when we talk about the evenness of standards up here when you look at the situation in other counties. The reality is that there is only 2-3 clubs in most counties in any one year who will win the county title. Every club should be striving to improve the quality of their teams and I think clubs are starting to push on a bit but we're no different to everyone else at the minute when it comes to looking for a top dog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on October 01, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
i would somewhat agree with that skull

i am talking about the standard of games, overall i didnt see a good game in the champioship this year. the quality of hurling in all the games i watched was overall poor to say the least.

i dont mean to take anything away from your win, it was well deserved on the day.

ps - im not from Cushendall btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
I think theres some confusion when were talking about the "standard of games".

The standard of hurling generally is technically of a higher standard than it was 20/30 years ago and Antrim (through osmosis) has improved as a result of those improvements nationally. Take a look at GAA Beo some night and it's plain to see
Fitness levels are higher (faster, better endurance)

I think theres a rose tinted spectacles element in those who cliam that games in the 80's for instance were of a better standard. Today expectations are higher and people want to see entertaining high quality hurling as much as they want their teams to win but back in the day I'd say hurling was seen with, shall we say, less discerning eyes. As far as I can see the game is as healthy now (in terms of the playing population) as it ever was but we could do so much more to improve our lot.

The game on Sunday was as good a hurling performance from Dunloy than any I've seen over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
Have to agree with you Skull.  Some of the hurling Dunloy played on Sunday was the best I have seen in the past 3-4 years in Antrim.  Their link up play was unreal at times and Cushendall couldn't live with it.

Obviously favourites to win Ulster now but plans on another assault on Croke Park given how close Cushendall came last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 01, 2009, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
Have to agree with you Skull.  Some of the hurling Dunloy played on Sunday was the best I have seen in the past 3-4 years in Antrim.  Their link up play was unreal at times and Cushendall couldn't live with it.

Obviously favourites to win Ulster now but plans on another assault on Croke Park given how close Cushendall came last year?

The problem with the AI semi this year it will be most likely be Ballyhale Shamrocks as opposition, provided they get through Ulster.

EDIT- It will be Portumna as Dunloy played Leinster opposition (Birr) two years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on October 01, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 01, 2009, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
Have to agree with you Skull.  Some of the hurling Dunloy played on Sunday was the best I have seen in the past 3-4 years in Antrim.  Their link up play was unreal at times and Cushendall couldn't live with it.

Obviously favourites to win Ulster now but plans on another assault on Croke Park given how close Cushendall came last year?

The problem with the AI semi this year it will be most likely be Ballyhale Shamrocks as opposition, provided they get through Ulster.

Would Paul Shiels be back for the All Ire semi if they come through Ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2009, 12:45:35 PM
Shorty would be no where near ready at that time of year. He has a long road rehab wise ahead of him before he even thinks about hurling again. No better man to work at it in the right way though. I hope the operation was a success
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
Here's one, hopefully Dunloy will progress to an AI semi final to take place in Feb 2010,  Paddy, Nancy, Kevin M and Ally will have to take to the field in their new shiny Mycros. I hope Santa comes early for they could take a while to get used to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 01, 2009, 04:36:51 PM
Last Man I think that the helmets rule doesn't come into play in the club championship semi's and finals. However it will come in for like of walsh cup etc from January. Not 100% sure, thought I heard it a wee while ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 01, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 01, 2009, 04:36:51 PM
Last Man I think that the helmets rule doesn't come into play in the club championship semi's and finals. However it will come in for like of walsh cup etc from January. Not 100% sure, thought I heard it a wee while ago

I thought it was Jan 1st Colonel but makes more sense to introduce it at the beginning of each competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2009, 04:43:44 PM
Not so sure myself, my reading of the rule is the with efect from the 1st January all players must wear the helmet, no mention of competitions from the previous year yet to complete, hopefully the GAA will clarify this for whichever team come from Ulster

Will this new rule affect Dunloy more than most clubs with Magee, Kevin M, Damien McM, Nancy, Paddy R & Ally players who don't wear helmets

Personally i don't think they needed to introduce this rule so soon, it could have been due to be enforced in say 2/3 years time.  Give plenty of warning to th underage hurlers so thy continue the good habit of wearing it at senior level and allow players like our own and the Ken McGrath's/Dan Shanahans/Mick kavanghs to finish there careers in their time.  might force a few unnessary retirements
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2009, 05:39:52 PM
I'd say its purely a financial decision from the insurers who will be putting savage pressure on the powers that be in Croke park. Hard to argue when you look at Ken McGrath and Dan Shanahan's film star smiles, although their remedial dental work wouldn't have cost too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 01, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
diarmuid o sullivan already said he was gonna quit over the helmet rule, AD was only outfield player not to wear a faceguard, all wore helmets (apart from Ronan in goals).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on October 02, 2009, 11:00:07 AM
Would it be fair to say that the majority of players nowadays wear the helmet already, with only a few 'lunatics' opting not to.  i no that the older players are used to not wearing one, but imo its a bit rash to be retiring over.  id say in the next 2 years helmets will become alot better, with faceguards being adapted to give the maximum vision possible.  just takes a bit of getting used to. how many in each of your teams currently dont wear the helmet.  we would only have 3 that i can think of in a panel of 40 that dont wear it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 02, 2009, 01:10:33 PM
Helmets are for girls ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 02, 2009, 02:49:31 PM
took to wearing the helmet with a faceguard in the recent three or fours years after a decade or more of wearing nothing. (Many's a sunday night spent in the Royal's, City and Dundonalds A&E department) and only find two issues with them.

When it's hot, my eyes are burnt out of me with the sweat and I still struggle to see the ball if it's in and around my feet as the big foam chin pad jams against your chest. and you're trying to bend down and look over it.

We've an eejit who had an old cooper hanging to bits with the usual cable tyes, bailer twine and his Ma (this lad is touching 30) bought him a new one for his birthday. The eejit went and took the faceguard off it (leaving two very raggedy rivets exposed) so it won't be any use to him next year  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 02, 2009, 03:00:29 PM
aye when i started teaching i thought i'd better look after my gub. tried the face guard and hated it, not for the vision problems but the heat that Johnny was saying. too fecking warm!!

i've a right few scars though all in the usual places, above the lip, below the eye and two above each eye!!! and one on the head i got while i was a sub at an under 16 match at Corrigan.

cost the insurance people nothing so don't understand why its a cost thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on October 02, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 02, 2009, 02:49:31 PM
took to wearing the helmet with a faceguard in the recent three or fours years after a decade or more of wearing nothing. (Many's a sunday night spent in the Royal's, City and Dundonalds A&E department) and only find two issues with them.

When it's hot, my eyes are burnt out of me with the sweat and I still struggle to see the ball if it's in and around my feet as the big foam chin pad jams against your chest. and you're trying to bend down and look over it.

We've an eejit who had an old cooper hanging to bits with the usual cable tyes, bailer twine and his Ma (this lad is touching 30) bought him a new one for his birthday. The eejit went and took the faceguard off it (leaving two very raggedy rivets exposed) so it won't be any use to him next year  ::)


vasaline on the eyebrows stops that, cudn play in the summer without it!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 03, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 03, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Oh aye, congrats to the Doc.

I will second that. Married a good Glenariffe woman.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 04, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 03, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Oh aye, congrats to the Doc.

I will second that. Married a good Glenariffe woman.

you'd be hard pushed to find a good glenariffe woman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 04, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 03, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Oh aye, congrats to the Doc.

I will second that. Married a good Glenariffe woman.

you'd be hard pushed to find a good glenariffe woman

Mmm........ your selector and veteran FF are both married to Glenariffe women............. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 05, 2009, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 04, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 04, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 03, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 03, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Oh aye, congrats to the Doc.

I will second that. Married a good Glenariffe woman.

you'd be hard pushed to find a good glenariffe woman

Mmm........ your selector and veteran FF are both married to Glenariffe women............. ;)

always an exception to the rule, and that was a package deal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
The land was in her name
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 01:03:06 PM
Ok back to hurling. Skull/Max are youse worried about Ballycran? they have some old timers battling away in Savage and Braniff (both 40) and a few young ones. similar mix like yourselves.

Dungiven are now free to concentrate on the hurling also (should they beat S'neill)

Ulster finals have been close over the last few years and i expect this to be just as close
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 05, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
We'd be idiots to not be concerned by either the winners of Derry or Ballycran, Ballycran should have beaten in the drawn game in 2007 and Kevin Lynchs claim they deserved to win the final that year also (though i would disagree)

Ballycran have serious pace amoung some of their forwards and although B McGourty is a loss for them they will still revel in the open spaces of Casement park.

I see the Shamrocks took a bit of a beating in the Antrim league yesterday, 4-11 to 1-9 against Ballycastle, does that condemn the Johnnies to Div2 and should make us favourites for the league this year.

Its a bit mad that Dunloy took a bit of stick this year and yet could win all the Antrim competitions they are involved in (Feis, League & Championship)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
but thats grand you kept your heads down and got on with the business of winning.

Dunloy always go out to win their matches. a winning mentality and all that.

your old foes Birr were beat at the weekend and it seems Portumna will be the team to beat.

who do the Ulster winners get this year? Munster last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 02:45:31 PM
Billy Best (RIP) who was buried in Carrickfergus on Saturday was, I believe the last surviving member of the Antrim squad that reached the All-Ireland hurling final in 1943.

He was 89 when he died.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
 Condolences for his family.

what club did he play for Saff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2009, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
but thats grand you kept your heads down and got on with the business of winning.

Dunloy always go out to win their matches. a winning mentality and all that.

your old foes Birr were beat at the weekend and it seems Portumna will be the team to beat.

who do the Ulster winners get this year? Munster last year

Galway champions, in all probability Portumna, are straight through to AI Semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Originally O'Connell's. May have finished at Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 05, 2009, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 02:45:31 PM
Billy Best (RIP) who was buried in Carrickfergus on Saturday was, I believe the last surviving member of the Antrim squad that reached the All-Ireland hurling final in 1943.

He was 89 when he died.

Was there some (albeit maybe tenuous) link between Billy Best and Georgie Best???

I have some memory of a puff piece around the time of the 89 Final making some connection between the two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 05, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
but thats grand you kept your heads down and got on with the business of winning.

Dunloy always go out to win their matches. a winning mentality and all that.

your old foes Birr were beat at the weekend and it seems Portumna will be the team to beat.

who do the Ulster winners get this year? Munster last year

I'd say that mentality has helped us over the years alright

I see Birr had 12 Offaly Championships in the last 2 decades, thats some going together with 4 All Irelands, beat Dunloy in 2 AI finals (one after a replay) and 2 All Ireland Semi finals (one of which Dunloy could have won)

Portumna are a serious side alright, I'd love to see the odds for the AI at this stage as i'd say they are a shocking short price despite only being at the semi final stage of a serious Galway championship.  The Galway winner play the Ulster winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 04:35:14 PM
better meeting Portumna (if ya have to meet them) in the semi final.

hope its in Clones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Could we please stop counting chickens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 05, 2009, 06:19:07 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 05, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
but thats grand you kept your heads down and got on with the business of winning.

Dunloy always go out to win their matches. a winning mentality and all that.

your old foes Birr were beat at the weekend and it seems Portumna will be the team to beat.

who do the Ulster winners get this year? Munster last year

I'd say that mentality has helped us over the years alright

I see Birr had 12 Offaly Championships in the last 2 decades, thats some going together with 4 All Irelands, beat Dunloy in 2 AI finals (one after a replay) and 2 All Ireland Semi finals (one of which Dunloy could have won)

Portumna are a serious side alright, I'd love to see the odds for the AI at this stage as i'd say they are a shocking short price despite only being at the semi final stage of a serious Galway championship.  The Galway winner play the Ulster winners

that 95 final was definately the one that got away. 2 get back in the final in 96 was some achievement after that dissapointment. I had a lot of admiration for that particular team back then. I would love to see Dunloy win an AI Club, it would be long overdue. BUT, as has been stated, there will be no complecancy in Dunloy and Feb/March 2010 is a long way off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 05, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Could we please stop counting chickens

unfortunately that comes with the territory. the bookies have made our footballers favourites for Ulster, i would say that any of the teams in that competition would feel confident of winning Ulster.

not too many people view these sites Skull, especially the hurling thread, ok you get the odd numpty from Tyrone who throws in a comment or two (wouldn't know how to hold a stick) and the odd ban/burn the hurl city man who has a whine and off course ya have the footballer trapped in the wrong club.  its all good craic and everyone hopes that Dunloy make it through.

whats evident is Dunloy have a bench that if called upon can change a game. Cushendall will tell ya that outside of the great 15 (which in fairness would compete with the best in Ireland) they would struggle to bring on a real quality player.

all the best for Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 05, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 05, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Could we please stop counting chickens

unfortunately that comes with the territory. the bookies have made our footballers favourites for Ulster, i would say that any of the teams in that competition would feel confident of winning Ulster.

not too many people view these sites Skull, especially the hurling thread, ok you get the odd numpty from Tyrone who throws in a comment or two (wouldn't know how to hold a stick) and the odd ban/burn the hurl city man who has a whine and off course ya have the footballer trapped in the wrong club.  its all good craic and everyone hopes that Dunloy make it through.

whats evident is Dunloy have a bench that if called upon can change a game. Cushendall will tell ya that outside of the great 15 (which in fairness would compete with the best in Ireland) they would struggle to bring on a real quality player.

all the best for Sunday

if that's me you're talking about, then cheers. It's a long time since i was called a footballer  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 05, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 05, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 05, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
Could we please stop counting chickens

unfortunately that comes with the territory. the bookies have made our footballers favourites for Ulster, i would say that any of the teams in that competition would feel confident of winning Ulster.

not too many people view these sites Skull, especially the hurling thread, ok you get the odd numpty from Tyrone who throws in a comment or two (wouldn't know how to hold a stick) and the odd ban/burn the hurl city man who has a whine and off course ya have the footballer trapped in the wrong club.  its all good craic and everyone hopes that Dunloy make it through.

whats evident is Dunloy have a bench that if called upon can change a game. Cushendall will tell ya that outside of the great 15 (which in fairness would compete with the best in Ireland) they would struggle to bring on a real quality player.

all the best for Sunday

if that's me you're talking about, then cheers. It's a long time since i was called a footballer  :D

No  hoof not you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 06, 2009, 09:07:48 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on October 05, 2009, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2009, 02:45:31 PM
Billy Best (RIP) who was buried in Carrickfergus on Saturday was, I believe the last surviving member of the Antrim squad that reached the All-Ireland hurling final in 1943.

He was 89 when he died.

Was there some (albeit maybe tenuous) link between Billy Best and Georgie Best???

I have some memory of a puff piece around the time of the 89 Final making some connection between the two.

Billy and Dickie (George's da) were cousins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
Hatchet is that U21 result against StTeresas correct? 10-14 to 0-1

Thats a wild scoreline. I mind St Teresas having a fairly handy U21 team 2 years ago and took us very close on our way to the Final that year. Whats going on there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 06, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
Does anybody else find it strange how the Intermediate Final Replay has slipped under the radar?  Two weeks later and no reports in papers, on websites?

Was the game so bad that nobody wants to hear about it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 06, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
Does anybody else find it strange how the Intermediate Final Replay has slipped under the radar?  Two weeks later and no reports in papers, on websites?

Was the game so bad that nobody wants to hear about it?

It looks like things have moved on - it's all on the "Lisbellaw hurling" thread now - just trying to throw people off the scent!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 11, 2009, 08:26:19 AM
Some eye opening results in the u21 championship, great win for st galls, is that not the st johns team that won the minor at this level

Also big result for Cushendall, Ballycastle looked to be strong at that level and too win so comfortably is impressive, perhaps losing the senior has helped focus their players on this level

Dunloy had a great result in Loughgiel, though Loughgiel hit fierce wides in the first half. Dunloy where much more economical with their chances and their big players performed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 11, 2009, 09:30:26 AM
It is a desperate time to be playing U-21 matches, I would say the players just can't wait to the season is over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2009, 08:26:19 AM
Some eye opening results in the u21 championship, great win for st galls, is that not the st johns team that won the minor at this level

Also big result for Cushendall, Ballycastle looked to be strong at that level and too win so comfortably is impressive, perhaps losing the senior has helped focus their players on this level

Dunloy had a great result in Loughgiel, though Loughgiel hit fierce wides in the first half. Dunloy where much more economical with their chances and their big players performed

Minder your right poor time of the year to be playing under 21.

our lads played well yesterday, while St Johns were far more skillfull in most departments the St Galls lads had more heart and were far more determind.  Just like Dunloy all the big players had their big game. Burkey and CJ had great games and all the other lads that are on the senior squad, who have been training all season had great games also.

means we play Dunloy next. two players on that team play for the footballers. means training all week under 21 sat afternoon and Cavan Gaels on the Sunday (down there) and then a intermediate hurling semi final on the Tuesday night in Armagh!!!

oh and if we beat Dunloy, then the lads have a under 21 final the day before a possible interm. final!!! (ifs, buts, and maybe's i know)

better being in them than not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: groundlie on October 11, 2009, 01:03:39 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2009, 08:26:19 AM
Some eye opening results in the u21 championship, great win for st galls, is that not the st johns team that won the minor at this level

Also big result for Cushendall, Ballycastle looked to be strong at that level and too win so comfortably is impressive, perhaps losing the senior has helped focus their players on this level

Dunloy had a great result in Loughgiel, though Loughgiel hit fierce wides in the first half. Dunloy where much more economical with their chances and their big players performed


Minder your right poor time of the year to be playing under 21.

our lads played well yesterday, while St Johns were far more skillfull in most departments the St Galls lads had more heart and were far more determind.  Just like Dunloy all the big players had their big game. Burkey and CJ had great games and all the other lads that are on the senior squad, who have been training all season had great games also.

means we play Dunloy next. two players on that team play for the footballers. means training all week under 21 sat afternoon and Cavan Gaels on the Sunday (down there) and then a intermediate hurling semi final on the Tuesday night in Armagh!!!

oh and if we beat Dunloy, then the lads have a under 21 final the day before a possible interm. final!!! (ifs, buts, and maybe's i know)

better being in them than not


The standard of hurling at the St Galls vs St Johns u21 game was awful. It is shocking that at U21 level most of the fellas can not do the basic things right. There was not one player yesterday that impressed. C-Dall or Dunloy would make light work of either team.


your being harsh groundlie, your half back line was very skillfull and the midfielder, Jude played well. like i said we wanted it more and our big players showed really well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on October 11, 2009, 07:50:58 PM
St Paul's beat Rossa today in Div 2 and deserved there win. That put paid to Rossa's chances of Div 1 next year and saves St Paul's from Div 3.

Takin out Chris Hamill after 5 mins was clearly the Pauls tactic & shopuld have ben punished with a red card IMO. But in the end the better team won & if we had takin the chances we had it could have been different.

Great to see Beller doin his bit for the association. He was acting as referees assessor as well as playing centre half back. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
aye heard that result today, thought Rossa were going well lately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 11, 2009, 08:28:23 PM
Randalstown didn't field against us today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 08:31:04 PM
aye they played in the football final the other night (beaten) i'd say they are a little pissed off at the minute. Glenariff's to lose now.

have you any talent coming through Minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on October 11, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
aye heard that result today, thought Rossa were going well lately.

Hamill was a big loss. St Pauls took some good scores from way out in the second half; we couldnt do the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on October 11, 2009, 10:28:19 PM
Any idea where the U21 semi-finals will be held next Sunday? Cushendall and Rossa should be a decent match, with some good young players on both sides. Have a feeling Dunloy will be too strong for St Galls. I'd go for Cushendall v Dunloy final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 11, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
I'd say that Skull may get this wrong and hardstation may know the answer, but i think we beat that Dunloy under 21  team when they were minor.

game was played at our pitch (bottom one if i'm right) so they are looking forward to it and would have feared Loughgiel more than Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on October 12, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
if any body is talking to gary pappy tell him to bate the p**h outta ballycran. up dunloy!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on October 12, 2009, 08:34:58 AM
credit to ray matthews... best bit of reffing i,ve seen this year. pity other refs wouldn,t take a leaf out of his book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2009, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on October 12, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
if any body is talking to gary pappy tell him to bate the p**h outta ballycran. up dunloy!!!

Taking the defeat well there ha ha!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on October 12, 2009, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on October 12, 2009, 08:34:58 AM
credit to ray matthews... best bit of reffing i,ve seen this year. pity other refs wouldn,t take a leaf out of his book.

Are you ray matthews?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2009, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2009, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: groundlie on October 12, 2009, 12:09:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
Not sure Milltown. I actually fancy a Westie final. Two good semis alright. We'd be young enough for U21 but not inexperienced. A number of very capable hurlers. St. Gall's are very good up the middle. Conor McGourty, Burkey and Anton McCaffrey (I take it he plays) are capable of winning games. They hit 5 goals against the Johnnies. Most defences would struggle to keep them out. However, Conor and Burkey will be playing some amount of games this weather. Interesting last 4. Wouldn't rule any of them out.

Seriously St Galls beat a woeful St Johns side made up of minors. Both teams were shockingly poor. I just cant get over how many of the players on each side who could not do the basics of the game.

I wouldn't say St Galls are that strong up the middle, mcgourty plays a lot of loose ball and im not sure who the Burke fella is. Poor attendance yesterday too, is this competition meaningful anymore?
Is that why yis didn't enter a team last year? :P

Truthfully, I'd go for an U20 comp. An U20 league and championship. The problem is with the U21 comp is that clubs say "Right you're out of minor - go and play senior" with this side competition (U21) to play too(I'll come back to this). No league, just championship. Burn out etc being the reason. It's a case of being thrown in at the deep end at this stage. Sink or swim when some players need more development. How many players are lost after minor? I would also like to call a major BULLSHIT on the "they went drinking" line of thought. This is a common and lazy misconception about us city boys.

City clubs, unlike country clubs are not tight-knit. In most (and I'd like to stress the most) cases where players are lost, their group of friends are not at all involved with hurling. From minor to U21, you could have 3 games in 3 years. Your hurling club is not the centre of the community as it is in Dunloy, Loughgiel or Cushendall. In fact, there are people from city clubs who don't see each other from one year to the next. Great friends during a minor championship campaign - hardly know them a year later. Why?

Well, it seems accepted that you just turn up to senior training and you go from there. Nonsense. That is ok in country clubs where everyone knows each other but in the city, that doesn't work. Players coming through are in the dressing room thinking "I don't know anyone here, FCUK THIS". Then the fall out of the loop.

Clubs have to work on blending them through.

good post Hardstation, you surprise me sometimes ;)

yes a lot of players that come through the juvenile teams are lost after senior. we have actively tried to stop the rot by entering more teams to fix the problem. As you say players come into a senior dressing room and my feel intimidated by older seniors, reasons being, not knowing them. not from their area and school. so no past relationships have been made with them.

it takes a lot of phone calls and effort to bring these lads to training and get involved with the senior set ups. Villages and Towns don't really have this problem. they all went to the same school and are usually related (I'm not being funny) to someone in the committee senior team or management. ok there is a drink culture but every club has that problem.

times have changed. when we were 16 we had to play senior games due to numbers. but now days clubs are lucky to keep 3/4 players after minor that will actually play on the senior team!!

our club has been lucky as all the good juveniles that won minors competitions are the back bone of both our senior teams. success is the main reason why we have kept a lot of players.

But we have lost a lot of good players over the years,  they are sometimes unavoidable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 12, 2009, 12:38:59 PM
Sounds like a good plan Hardstation but for some clubs it wouldn't work as its hard enough to some games played never mind introducing another league.


Look at St Galls with the fixtures they have at the minute, add in another league and it would be tough to compete (although st galls would be one of the clubs who could benefit from such idea's).


Would an u20 SA league work, as some of the guys in North Antrim get enough hurling and some minors are getting games with seniors already. Clubs may not buy into it as there are other things happening. Would save travel time also.


MR we sometimes have players who go to hurl after minor and don't like the atmosphere in senior changing rooms or the attitudes of some senior players so its not just city clubs who have the problem. However, the more talented players generally are willing to stick it out and gel with senior players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2009, 02:36:46 PM
MR out of interest how does the success of your footballers impact your hurlers?

I'd say in your club if you were a talented 18 or 19 year old it would be tough getting everyone motivated for the football as it would be so tough to get on the team. Does that mean more turn to the hurling at that age as they've more chance of getting on?

Clubs everywhere have problems retaining people. The city clubs of the last few years have had big problems though. St Galls and St Brigids aside I'd say almost every club - football and hurling - has went downhill. Why that is I'm not so sure. St Johns is possibly more exaggerated because they have had some underage success but there is no doubt they have went downhill a lot. Rossa, St Pauls and Sarsfields definitely would have too though. Gorts threatened to make big breakthroughs in both football and hurling however they don't appear to have built on it. Whether that's player retention though I don't know.

It's hard to gauge with country teams. It doesn't seem to be any worse than it ever was to be honest. I would however say the only team on the "up" in general is Creggan in football. I don't see much difference in the rest hurling or football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 12, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
we have a core group of players that would come through and play hurling for the club. a lot of them are also talented footballers. we've 9 on the senior teams of both codes. we could have 2/3 more players that could be on both but have chosen to concentrate on one code. work/family/study are major factors in choosing one over the other.

i don't know of any players who hurl for the club that don't play football, but there are a lot of footballers that don't hurl after minor.

the success of our footballers has meant the hurling will generally take a back seat. Should our hurlers gain success at senior level then it will have a massive boost on hurling interests. But not so long ago St Galls was a div 2 football club and still the hurlers didn't get the same attention and we were playing div 1!!

parents will then view our club as a successfull club to put 'our wee johnny' in, when/if we achieve success in hurling. otherwise St Johns and Rossa will have the monopoly on hurling in Belfast.

I respect all the players who choose one code over another. Of course i'd prefere them to hurl and win something with the club. it seems to be impossible to be be a dual club nowdays. don't know why, but a lot of passion seems to be missing. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronArmy on October 12, 2009, 08:48:02 PM
I think the case is, parents will send their children to clubs of family members or friends or if the child is old enough, he'll pick to go where his friends play. Not sure if parents nowadays are checking up on the league tables on underage and then deciding which club their son plays for. This should then give clubs a good basis to work on, especially with the new rule brought in about transferring u18, this means that if there are any losses of players from clubs, then the club has only themselves to blame, for lack of matches/poor coaching. However, overall, i think the standard of coaching is improving in a number of clubs, and needs to built upon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 14, 2009, 01:56:25 PM
Well whats the verdicts on the U21 games at the weekend, I take they are still going ahead as planned?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2009, 04:12:23 PM
Yes. We sought to get the game pulled forward to Thursday (which was a better option for both ourselves and St Galls) but for some reason it wasn't available/possible, so Sat it is. Should be a good double header
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 14, 2009, 04:24:32 PM
Whats the times for that then Skull?

You would have thought that the county would have wanted to accomodate St Galls in their Ulster Bid
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 14, 2009, 05:58:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 14, 2009, 04:24:32 PM
Whats the times for that then Skull?

You would have thought that the county would have wanted to accomodate St Galls in their Ulster Bid

not only that we have two hurling league games fixed for sat afternoon. seniors away to Tir Na Og and div 4 team away to Bredagh!!!  but sure.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 15, 2009, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 14, 2009, 05:58:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 14, 2009, 04:24:32 PM
Whats the times for that then Skull?

You would have thought that the county would have wanted to accomodate St Galls in their Ulster Bid

not only that we have two hurling league games fixed for sat afternoon. seniors away to Tir Na Og and div 4 team away to Bredagh!!!  but sure.......

Are you going to start supporting Donegal again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 15, 2009, 12:55:21 PM
worked last year, who do we get in the first round? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 15, 2009, 03:21:53 PM
Hhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!.  Very interesting indeed!  :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on October 15, 2009, 06:34:37 PM
when i the galls ulster hurling semi fixed for? or has it been played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 15, 2009, 09:41:12 PM
Ulster Club Intermediate Hurling Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
St Galls (Antrim)  Eoghan Ruadh (Tyrone)  Athletic Grounds Armagh 20/10/2009 19:30 Eamon Hassan

http://ulster.gaa.ie/fixtures/

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on October 16, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
good man Glensman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 16, 2009, 09:51:58 PM
Is there a reason why the county will not postpone the u21 semi-fiinal between Dunloy and St Galls given the provincial activity coming up for both clubs? They will probably say all the clubs at the start of the year agreed to the scheduling of the u21 championship now and we must stick to it blah blah blah but does common sense not come in to it when a situation like this arises? As far as i see there is only going to be 1 outcome and that is St Galls will either play without 2 of their main players or they wont play at all. Either way its bad for hurling in general in the county.

In saying all that i cant see either of those 2 teams winning it the u21 anyway. C'dall look to be the team to beat and although they were sluggish in the 1st half against Ballycastle last week they stepped it up in the 2nd half and they were deserving winners.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
The Dunloy StGalls match has been called off at the last minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 16, 2009, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 16, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
The Dunloy StGalls match has been called off at the last minute.

So it will be called off tomorrow one minute before the match starts or it has already been called off?  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 12:48:57 AM
match was called off at 6pm last night

to be played on the 30th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 17, 2009, 08:32:36 AM
Its been called off, no real need for it too have been called off, it should have been brought forward to thurs night as both clubs requested.

Now the momentum of the competition has been broken and if st galls win on sunday will only cause further complications down the line. I wouldn't be surprised to see this comp now completed in March
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 17, 2009, 08:42:04 AM
I'm sure our County Secretary did as much as possible to accommodate both clubs :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 17, 2009, 04:21:39 PM
Glenariffe made a quick return to Div 1 hurling after beating Gort Na Mona today in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 17, 2009, 06:45:33 PM
Good to see Milltown Row getting the boots on and playing a star role at CHB for the 2nds today!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 08:15:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 17, 2009, 04:21:39 PM
Glenariffe made a quick return to Div 1 hurling after beating Gort Na Mona today in Belfast.

how does that work minder?

leagues don't finish till 20th november, should we get to play our games and win them then we are up

i know its tough and we have other committments but.....

League table for Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Glenariff  10 9 1 0 209 111 98 18
Gort Na Mona  13 9 4 0 285 214 71 18
Rossa  11 7 4 0 212 161 51 14
St. Galls  8 6 2 0 182 117 65 12
Tir na Nog  11 4 6 1 170 202 -32 9
St. Pauls  11 4 6 1 138 188 -50 9
Gaeil Chluana  10 2 7 1 171 221 -50 5
Shane O Neills  12 0 11 1 132 285 -153 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 17, 2009, 06:45:33 PM
Good to see Milltown Row getting the boots on and playing a star role at CHB for the 2nds today!

managed a point as well ;D

think i'll put myself on the panel of 24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 17, 2009, 08:41:58 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 17, 2009, 06:45:33 PM
Good to see Milltown Row getting the boots on and playing a star role at CHB for the 2nds today!

managed a point as well ;D

think i'll put myself on the panel of 24

Your Full Back can't be far away from the 24 IMO. MOM by a mile. Great hands.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 17, 2009, 10:54:50 PM
Such utter, vitriolic, un-informed rubbish.  Hhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Not so intereresting at all.

You Antrim GAABoarders have'nt the slightest notion about how things work behind scenes.

Ya know,  the county can certainly do without the likes of you sinical demagogues, such rubbish, thank god is moderated on the county website!

I will continue to monitor you fellas from my new Tardice in HQ. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 17, 2009, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 08:15:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 17, 2009, 04:21:39 PM
Glenariffe made a quick return to Div 1 hurling after beating Gort Na Mona today in Belfast.

how does that work minder?

leagues don't finish till 20th november, should we get to play our games and win them then we are up

i know its tough and we have other committments but.....

League table for Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Glenariff  10 9 1 0 209 111 98 18
Gort Na Mona  13 9 4 0 285 214 71 18
Rossa  11 7 4 0 212 161 51 14
St. Galls  8 6 2 0 182 117 65 12
Tir na Nog  11 4 6 1 170 202 -32 9
St. Pauls  11 4 6 1 138 188 -50 9
Gaeil Chluana  10 2 7 1 171 221 -50 5
Shane O Neills  12 0 11 1 132 285 -153 1

The table is wrong wee man, we have played one more game than the table shows. I am only going by what our fellas were telling me but the Div2 cup was supposed to be presented after the match today, but wasnt. I have to say the Gort Na Mona "line" are the biggest shower of cheats i have seen, we didnt get one line ball all day, regardless of who it came off & we had Terry O'Reilly acting the gobshite on our side trying to intimidate our linesman........ Gorts are very fit but just didnt have the goal threat we had.

I would say the folk at St Galls are getting impatient now that their main goal of promotion has gone............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 17, 2009, 11:44:01 PM
Oh and some result from Rossa today beating the mighty Cushendall in U-21 semi. They seem to have some setup underage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 11:45:29 PM
So if we win 4 games are we not level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:11:31 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 17, 2009, 11:45:29 PM
So if we win 4 games are we not level?

I dunno, that is the information i have. We have packed it up for the year, youse have a big point differential to make up too if we finish level.

We are +103 after 12 games and St Galls are +65 after 8. This is of course if you ever get to play your final games, and realistaically you wont.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all

Just take it like a man.......................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:41:41 AM
ok phone the doctor, tell him we give up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:42:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:41:41 AM
ok phone the doctor, tell him we give up

He has blocked my calls  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 18, 2009, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:42:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:41:41 AM
ok phone the doctor, tell him we give up

He has blocked my calls  :'(

My esteemed friend and colleague, 'The Good Doctor' would certainly not be taking calls from you nor would I think you would have his phone number in the first palce.


St. Galls have every chance to fulfil all ther fixtures and remember we do have 'lights' you know.  Dont count your chickens pal.  It's worth remembering also, we will be doing all in our power to ensure the standards of hurling in Belfast are raised.  We certainly would not impede St. Galls from realising their potential of going up a notch!  Maybe just sour grapes on your part but more indicative of your lack of knowledge as to how things are done in the county.  Such sad individuals - empty vessels!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 18, 2009, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:42:52 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:41:41 AM
ok phone the doctor, tell him we give up

He has blocked my calls  :'(

My esteemed friend and colleague, 'The Good Doctor' would certainly not be taking calls from you nor would I think you would have his phone number in the first palce.


St. Galls have every chance to fulfil all ther fixtures and remember we do have 'lights' you know.  Dont count your chickens pal.  It's worth remembering also, we will be doing all in our power to ensure the standards of hurling in Belfast are raised.  We certainly would not impede St. Galls from realising their potential of going up a notch!  Maybe just sour grapes on your part but more indicative of your lack of knowledge as to how things are done in the county.  Such sad individuals - empty vessels!

Sour grapes after winning the league? You talk more shit now than you did under your previous usernames.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on October 19, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
but still no where near as much shit as your good self
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2009, 09:13:24 AM
Quote from: Nemo on October 19, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
but still no where near as much shit as your good self

Did your mother have any children that lived?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
"It is maybe working against us as it is maybe getting too big for some within Antrim. Can they handle the pressure? It's a big pressure job. It's horses for courses.

"Then there are certain people who would be attracted because of that high profile and it would maybe be more to do with ego than anything else."

Anyone else find this an amazing statement for someone who is looking to recruit a manager to come out with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 19, 2009, 01:07:19 PM
Don't think that statement would ever have had the chance to see the light of day if the Doc wasn't available to be asked the questions instead of 'Signum Fidel'

meant to say 'Clár Fograí'  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 19, 2009, 01:15:32 PM
Signum Fidei?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2009, 01:49:11 PM
The quote was attributed to Mr Quinn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 07:49:34 PM
Quote from: Nemo on October 19, 2009, 08:52:57 AM
but still no where near as much shit as your good self

Well said Nemo.  You should come and join us on the County Executive.  You are wasted here on this forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all

Just take it like a man.......................

I am not sure the likes of you knows the slighest thing about being manly!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2009, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all

Just take it like a man.......................

I am no sure the likes of you knows the slighest thing about being manly!!!!!!!!!!!

How are things in "Cushendall" sweet cheeks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 19, 2009, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all

Just take it like a man.......................

I am no sure the likes of you knows the slighest thing about being manly!!!!!!!!!!!

How are things in "Cushendall" sweet cheeks?

As good as ever, but I wont thank you for asking.  I hear you are one of the self regulators of the AntrimGaaBoard, who is regulating you I wonder????????   You are one to keep an eye on I think!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2009, 09:53:16 PM
Not the same clown again??

Sure change your club - no one will know any different.

No one regulates anything here. It's you that comes on and tries to regulate it.

How dare people have an opinion. Shame on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 19, 2009, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 19, 2009, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 19, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 18, 2009, 12:24:04 AM
beat you twice the points difference changes  ;)

but your right, we'll not play them all

Just take it like a man........








...............

I am no sure the likes of you knows the slighest thing about being manly!!!!!!!!!!!

How are things in "Cushendall" sweet cheeks?

As good as ever, but I wont thank you for asking.  I hear you are one of the self regulators of the AntrimGaaBoard, who is regulating you I wonder????????   You are one to keep an eye on I
think!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be difficult to spot though, what with my high cloak of anonymity keeping me warm.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 08:53:19 AM
Well done St. Galls.  Good luck on Sunday to all Antrim teams in the Ulster finals, Dunloy, Rasharkin and St. Galls.

From all at H.Q.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 09:30:21 AM
Maybe sentiments that arent being echoed across the county.

Any of the Dunloy posters want to comment on Sambo's latest coaching role?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 21, 2009, 10:05:34 AM
Whats that NAG? Where is he coaching?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2009, 10:10:08 AM
News to me NAG1.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 10:22:41 AM
My sources say he is in the Ards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 21, 2009, 10:26:42 AM
Why not tell us in the first post then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 10:28:29 AM
My question was directed at the Dunloy posters and their opinions thats all  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 21, 2009, 10:39:07 AM
Sambo is his own man and quite entitled to do as he pleases, surprises me though given his recent quote about not being able to coach a team that didn't wear Maroon or Saffron.

to be fair i always felt Cushendall would have been good supporters of Dunloy in the Ulster Series in the past, and indeed Dunloy of Cushendall, in fact i've been to everyone of Cushendalls games in the AI series since Wolf Tones pipped them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2009, 10:56:20 AM
So he's taking Ballycran for a few sessions I take it?

Sure Seamus Elliott took quite a few sessions with Ballygalget in recent years when they we're in Ulster and beyond. I doubt if both were/are doing it for the loathing of another team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
Seamus Elliott wasnt the out going county manager at the time he did that Skull, I just found it a very strange one and would be overly happy in your position. But maybe your taking the more mature approach on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 21, 2009, 11:08:54 AM
So your 100% sure of this NAG, I know hes good friends with Gary Savage, but one mans work shouldnt be the same opinion of all from Cushendall towards Dunloy. Im sure if Dunloy would have asked him he would have said yes, although with the guys Dunloy have he wouldn't be needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Look guys believe it or not I am not trying to start anything between the posters on here, I heard it from a good friend of mine. Just was interested in other opinions on it. In my opinion it leaves a bad taste in the mouth, Dunloy having beaten Cushendall recently. But as has been said he is his own man and can do as he pleases.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2009, 11:36:27 AM
Gary Hello Terence?
Sambo Yes
Gary Gary Savage here....listen...was wondering if you wouldn't mind coming up and taking a few sessions for us just to keep things fresh coming up to the ulster final? We think the boys would really benefit from your knowledge and experience of the game
Sambo OK yeah ..no bother Gary me old mate


No big deal NAG....think you've took the wrong perspective in looking at it in that way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 11:40:22 AM
Oh Skull to be living in your candy coated world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 21, 2009, 11:57:14 AM
Skull living in a candy coated world?!....have you read about 90% of the man's posts??!! Certainly does not think too much is candy coated in our wee county and to be honest he wouldn't be far wrong.

Agree with the stance on Sambo though. Big deal and if Dunloy want to use it as extra motivation then so be it. Ballycran don't wear Maroon or Saffron (unless the yellow in their stripes...)

Wouldn't exactly sing Sambo's praises for doing it but I would guess its not symptomatic of the feelings of the whole of Cushendall.

Any predictions - a hard enough one to call. Dunloy by 4 for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
I would have thought going to this level that McGourty would be a massive loss to Ballycran though they do seem to coped ok so far. Alot will depend on the start if Dunloy get out of the blocks can see them going to town on them but if they dont get a good start could be a tough day at the office. The weather could have a say in it as a wet day - low scoring affair is going to suit Ballycran better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on October 21, 2009, 12:12:36 PM
6 points+ to dunloy. just basing that on ballycrans semi final performance. i don,t think the cran will score any goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 21, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
 NAG Sambo trained Ballycran the week before they played Ballygalget in the Down final,which was the same day Dunloy played C'Dall in the Antrim final....so he's hardly doing it to stop Dunloy is he?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 21, 2009, 12:38:22 PM
Two games are never the same haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on October 21, 2009, 12:42:06 PM
dunloy keeper and full back are good enough. the cornerbacks will have learned / improved from the antrim final. they did have shakey moments in the first quarter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 21, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
NAG Sambo trained Ballycran the week before they played Ballygalget in the Down final,which was the same day Dunloy played C'Dall in the Antrim final....so he's hardly doing it to stop Dunloy is he?

That wasnt my inference, I was merely asking for an opinion on which I got thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2009, 01:02:50 PM
Hardstation I would have thought that a man of your experience would at least have known the answer to one of those questions.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 21, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
NAG Sambo trained Ballycran the week before they played Ballygalget in the Down final,which was the same day Dunloy played C'Dall in the Antrim final....so he's hardly doing it to stop Dunloy is he?

Sambo has been going down to Ballycran for a good few years, so its not a new thing but will it be seen as disloyal to Antrim if Ballycran do get one over on the Antrim champions?


As for the game, Ballycran are physically quite small all over the park and I'd have thought they'd be hoping for a dry sod and good weather as they are quite quick all over the park, barring the likes of Gazza and Mick who never really had speed anyway. They're tenacious enough and tackle in packs making it hard for the man in possession to get rid of the ball with any accuracy. I think they'll certainly make a game of it and if they can prevent Dunloy getting enough of the ball just might sneak it.
If Dunloy get the opportunities to pick out their men the way they like to then the Crans will have an uphill battle but I'd envisage then Crans playing an extra man deep especially early on, probably Wilson to shore up the defence and hope that his long raking clearances hit spaces for the two Crans corner forwards to get onto.
If the Crans get that bit of luck you sometimes need then they could do it.

hope I haven't jinxed them..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nemo on October 21, 2009, 02:45:02 PM
i think it will all hinge on the first 10 - 15 mins

Dunloys backs are poor, in particular their full back line - Ballycran need to score a goal or two in this period to have any chance.

i still believe Dunloy will win by 5 or 6 at least.

as said, the weather could swing things either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Buzz on October 21, 2009, 05:00:38 PM
Heard dungannon players were goading the st.galls players last night, anyone know anything about it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2009, 05:40:20 PM
Quote from: The Buzz on October 21, 2009, 05:00:38 PM
Heard dungannon players were goading the st.galls players last night, anyone know anything about it?

What could they possibly have been "goading" them about after the hammering they got?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 21, 2009, 06:04:07 PM
Was just thinking the same.

Busy times for some of the St Galls lads in U21 semi final, ulster Intermediate Final and Ulster football final.

Be a terrific achievement to win senior football and intermediate hurling, Dunly nearly achieved this in 2007 but lost the football final to Cavan champions

As too our own game at the weekend, I don't think the weather will have much of an impact, i believe both teams have pacey forwards who like to move the ball quick on a dry surface and so if the weather is bad it will suit neither.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 06:14:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 01:01:08 PM
How much is he getting?
Is he value for money?

Things from Cushendall dont come cheap pal!  First of all there is the Spuds, Sambo and then me!  Nothing cheap about us in Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 06:18:16 PM
Just heard from my South Antrim Board Colleagues.  I see St. Johns are continuing to implement their assault and battery policy among their underage ranks.  Poor Sarsfields lad on the receiving end this time.  Absolute disgrace!!!!!!!!!

I just hope the SA Board administer a harsh sanction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2009, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 21, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
NAG Sambo trained Ballycran the week before they played Ballygalget in the Down final,which was the same day Dunloy played C'Dall in the Antrim final....so he's hardly doing it to stop Dunloy is he?

Sambo has been going down to Ballycran for a good few years, so its not a new thing but will it be seen as disloyal to Antrim if Ballycran do get one over on the Antrim champions?


As for the game, Ballycran are physically quite small all over the park and I'd have thought they'd be hoping for a dry sod and good weather as they are quite quick all over the park, barring the likes of Gazza and Mick who never really had speed anyway. They're tenacious enough and tackle in packs making it hard for the man in possession to get rid of the ball with any accuracy. I think they'll certainly make a game of it and if they can prevent Dunloy getting enough of the ball just might sneak it.
If Dunloy get the opportunities to pick out their men the way they like to then the Crans will have an uphill battle but I'd envisage then Crans playing an extra man deep especially early on, probably Wilson to shore up the defence and hope that his long raking clearances hit spaces for the two Crans corner forwards to get onto.
If the Crans get that bit of luck you sometimes need then they could do it.

hope I haven't jinxed them..

Not a chance in hell of Ballycran overturning Dunloy.  Everybody wrote them off in the county final.  Lets look at he facts:  Won the feis Cup, On top of Div 1 League.  Lets not write them off the way so many did before the county final.  Class and expereince will prevail!  Ballycran will need more that a bit of luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 06:18:16 PM
Just heard from my South Antrim Board Colleagues.  I see St. Johns are continuing to implement their assault and battery policy among their underage ranks.  Poor Sarsfields lad on the receiving end this time.  Absolute disgrace!!!!!!!!!

I just hope the SA Board administer a harsh sanction.
Suimiuil.
What happened?

Unaccustomed as I am to spreading rumour/gossip, it's really not for me to say given my long term position within the county.  But lets just say the game had to be abandoned.  But remember, I was not there constable/your honour!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 07:57:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 07:54:26 PM
Ach sure you've the story half toul at this stage.

My lips are sealed, is'nt that right Tyrone/John?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
Were you ever in Castlereagh?

Yeah, I was in Castlereagh recently,  but only to borrow tea bags/coffee and bickies for the VIPs, visitors, stewards, refs/umpires and hangers on at Casement. Sure me big salary and new car has to be paid for somehow.

FFS Tyrone, close that gate at Owenvarragh!  All them St. Johns men will want in for nothing as usuall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
Should there not be a fada on the o in Fógraí?

Yes, you are right a chará - 100%.  But my keyboard was playing up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
Should there not be a fada on the o in Fógraí?

Yes, you are right a chará - 100%.  But my keyboard was playing up.
Ah, there it is. You must have put it above the last a in cara by mistake.

These keyboards in Casement are crap.  I think the Brits left them behind when they were garrisoned here.

Hi Tyrone, run down to PC World and get me a new 'Irish keyboard' ya useless, good for nothing b*ll*cks  I wish I was back in the Ulster Council.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:32:31 PM
:D

Dont laugh Hardstation, some bollocks's on here will kick me off now.

Who is Shiela Carville anyway HardStation. An old flame maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:32:31 PM
:D

Dont laugh Hardstation, some bollocks's on here will kick me off now.

Why? You have been a model poster so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:32:31 PM
:D

Dont laugh Hardstation, some bollocks's on here will kick me off now.

Why? You have been a model poster so far.
Well Thank you Minder, but ya know when a few fellas hormones start playing up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2009, 09:36:43 PM
I can picture it now. You're sitting at an important meeting in Casement about which tea bags are the best for the tae for officials on match days while posting on this board. If they find out.........yikes.

Sure I am running the show now, I have the reigns and the stripes!  Sorry John/Tyrone, I was getting a little above myself there for a moment.  FFS, cant open your gob in this place now days!

Oh to be back in Armagh
Among Ulster Council friends
These F**Kers here in Casement
Are driving me round the bend.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 21, 2009, 10:01:50 PM
By the way.  who the Feck is this bollocks 'Templar' ????? F**King diabolical liberty, setting up a poll rating me and other county secretary's.  Who does he think he is!!!!!  I bet ya it's that Tyrone fella trying to get me shafted because I am the only one in the new Tradice at HQ.  The reason I am the only one in the Tardice is to enable me to keep an eye on the big bollocks!


Simon (f**king) Templar, If I find out who ye are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 22, 2009, 10:37:48 AM
Dinnyu wants to come back according to HS!

Cahill keen on Saffron return
22 October 2009

Tipp native Dinny Cahill has confirmed that he is interested in becoming the manager of the Antrim senior hurling team for the second time.

It is understood that he is among the leading candidates for the post left vacant by the resignation of Sambo McNaughton and Dominic McKinley.

Sources close to the Saffrons have confirmed that Cahill is contemplating teaming up with former county star Gregory O'Kane and that the four man committee charged with filling the post are receptive to the proposed pairing of the two.

"I suppose if I thought there was a good programme there, and if I thought there were people interested in having me up there, then I suppose I would," Cahill stated.

"When you commit to doing something, you just do it.

"I would never consider the mileage. If there is something to be done you just knuckle in, do it, and make sure you have your day's work done before you leave."

Meanwhile a new team-management consisting of Dunloy's Shane Elliott and Cushendall's Fergus McAllister has also been mooted in some quarters.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 10:53:32 AM
If Dinny thinks he can come up and take Team Antrim away from club hurling for years the same as he done the last time then I definately don't want see him back in the job.

During his reign the club leagues were an absolute disaster. Half hearted, going through the motion affairs because nobody was hurling with their best team. And then we have people wondering why the standards dropped and there isn't enough players now of the right quality to play at intercounty level. Give me strength

Proper focus on player development through more intense club competitions and then you'll maybe after a few years find the players who have the potential to take our county game to the next level.

But fully expect quick fix solutions from those who seem to have no clue about these things.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 22, 2009, 02:35:51 PM
What would you make of Greg O'Kane going in with him then Skull if that is the truth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 05:54:17 PM
Would only want a County manager that gets the idea that player development through intense club competition is the only way to raise the standards across the county and from previous experience Dinny is not the man regardless of who he brings in. Intercounty is not the only game in town but when Dinny was here all the focus was directed at County team development.

Now after those 4 years of his blinkered disregard for club competition we're wondering why we now don't have a lower number quality players to represent the County. How is bringing in a win at all costs at County level man going to help us in the long term. Should we not learn from the recent past and take a longer view at doing things right?

Someone (not me) on the antrim website posted my earlier response to this rumour in relation to County players not being allowed to play (or train) for their clubs for half the season and admins reply was that that (the playing club games bit) was a total myth. Is my mind losing it because I am 99% sure that for the first couple of years there was a serious amount of games played without County men. And then after club pressure the County players played club games but they still were expected to train away with Dinny on Sat & Sun before league matches later in the day leaving them jaded and more injury prone.

Can someone please back that version of history up for me...or has the gargle dimmed me brain???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 22, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
Skull there was a non starred league where teams played without County players...but it was the biggest pile of shite. County players often would have trained Tues with the County, Thurs with their clubs & then friday, sat & Sunday morning with the county then a match on Sunday afternoon.....how could any county player be fit to play by Sunday Afternoons. But the county board dont see that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 22, 2009, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 05:54:17 PM
Would only want a County manager that gets the idea that player development through intense club competition is the only way to raise the standards across the county and from previous experience Dinny is not the man regardless of who he brings in. Intercounty is not the only game in town but when Dinny was here all the focus was directed at County team development.

Now after those 4 years of his blinkered disregard for club competition we're wondering why we now don't have a lower number quality players to represent the County. How is bringing in a win at all costs at County level man going to help us in the long term. Should we not learn from the recent past and take a longer view at doing things right?

Someone (not me) on the antrim website posted my earlier response to this rumour in relation to County players not being allowed to play (or train) for their clubs for half the season and admins reply was that that (the playing club games bit) was a total myth. Is my mind losing it because I am 99% sure that for the first couple of years there was a serious amount of games played without County men. And then after club pressure the County players played club games but they still were expected to train away with Dinny on Sat & Sun before league matches later in the day leaving them jaded and more injury prone.

Can someone please back that version of history up for me...or has the gargle dimmed me brain???

Ticked off Skull by one of the county Adminstrators, it wasnt me this time!


Name : The Skull
22 October 2009
If Dinny thinks he can come up and take Team Antrim away from club hurling for years the same as he done the last time then I definately don't want see him back in the job.

During his reign the club leagues were an absolute disaster....

Good job it's not up to you then. Your facts are completly and totally wrong. The last time he was manager of the county he requested one round of fixtures to be changed in 4 years. That is the reality and not this myth peddled around that "sponges" actually think has some element of truth in it.


I would concur in some respects with your assessment on things during Duinny's past reign.  I would agree we need intense and more frequest hurling games during the spring time and summer months.  Get all the boys playing week in week out at club level.  So what if some boys get the odd knock, we would just have to take it on the chin and except that if we wish to raise the standards and promote competiveness.

One question though, if not Dinny then who else?  There is no surge of people beating on the door and wanting to take the job on.  I would still be of the opinion it would be better with someone outside the county. Too much inter club rivalry and bad blood prevails among our clubs. Ii would also encourage each and every player up to the standard to come forth and make the competition for places very tough.  Get the likes of Watson  back and others who have clearly got the skill and ability.  If not Dinny, would you be happy with a Rossa, St. Johns, Sarsfields, St. Galls, Ballycastle Loughgeil or Dall man?  I would not be too sure!

By the way Skull, we at the county board know who you are!  Now that is interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 07:23:49 PM
Thanks tommy.....I was along the right lines. Admin had me on semantics....but the bottom line was it was a disaster and our leaders up in casement still dismiss honest comments out of hand. Anybody who knows the game would tell you that it was as bad as that. Question is why does the likes of "Admin" appear to not know that it was that bad at that time?

In reply to our enigmatic new board contributer
Can someone help me understand where all this bad blood exists between clubs? Such an easily trumpeted out line but it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny IMO.

If someone well respected in the game took on the job with a good backroom team and accepted that development at club level was pivotal to our long term future and was prepared to work within that sort of framework then I don't care which club he/they come from. I admit that the options aren't jumping out at me...but if we went with Dinny, and Dinny being Dinny (i.e. his own man) we are resigning oueselves to a further drop in standards in our senior club population. I don't think anybody wants that...do you?

Should I care if you know me Clár?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 22, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
The line about only 1 fixture being changed might be true, but i'd say the league fixtures were set at Dinny's request. So he had set what fixtures he wanted at the start of the year, therefore he never had to ask for many to be changed, as he had set them.

Starred leagues were shite. It was a poorer version of the ulster league. At least the Ulster league is at the right time of the year. Starred leagues were smack bang in the middle of the summer. Were crap, especially for clubs such as ourselves, dunloy and the shamrocks were it was a glorified reserve league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 08:42:03 PM
And it wouldn't just have been crap for the top 3 or 4 teams. Up and coming hurlers in the other clubs didn't get a chance to push themselves and test their game against the top players and give them the confidence that they could push on through the season. There was a complete emptiness about those games that no one got anything good from.

Is that what anyone who loves the game wants for the next few years? Div2/3/4 hurling supporters may not have seen this happening and as a conseqeunce will see a reappointment of Dinny as nothing but positive as it can't be denied he did for 3 years have the county team playing at a better standard. I hope they understand that damage was being done by his approach and we see the impact of that currently IMO when you look at the depth of quality that is there at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 22, 2009, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 22, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
The line about only 1 fixture being changed might be true, but i'd say the league fixtures were set at Dinny's request. So he had set what fixtures he wanted at the start of the year, therefore he never had to ask for many to be changed, as he had set them.

Starred leagues were shite. It was a poorer version of the ulster league. At least the Ulster league is at the right time of the year. Starred leagues were smack bang in the middle of the summer. Were crap, especially for clubs such as ourselves, dunloy and the shamrocks were it was a glorified reserve league

The difference between succes and failure - is not trying hard enough.  We can only blame ourselves!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 22, 2009, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2009, 08:42:03 PM
And it wouldn't just have been crap for the top 3 or 4 teams. Up and coming hurlers in the other clubs didn't get a chance to push themselves and test their game against the top players and give them the confidence that they could push on through the season. There was a complete emptiness about those games that no one got anything good from.

Is that what anyone who loves the game wants for the next few years? Div2/3/4 hurling supporters may not have seen this happening and as a conseqeunce will see a reappointment of Dinny as nothing but positive as it can't be denied he did for 3 years have the county team playing at a better standard. I hope they understand that damage was being done by his approach and we see the impact of that currently IMO when you look at the depth of quality that is there at the minute.

IMO the damage is being done by the clubs cancelling games.  Bottom line, in the spring summer months our lads collectively are not playing frequent competitive and meaningful hurling games at inter club level.  They do need to be playing week in and week out.  This will then carry them through to the county team where their fitness, stick work and eagerness to play will be of greater benefit to the county.  Starred leagues are a joke, all club players are stars if you ask me, they are keeping the game alive when others would like to see its demise for the sake of football.  We should value highly those at club level who wish to play the game and encourage those skilful and fit enough to go forward for county selection.  Give them games to play and plenty of them on a regualr basis.  Play under lights, run a few tournaments, up the ante in terms of the numbers of games they play.  this will enhance their skill, fitness and over ability.

Give them games, meaningful games, competitive games, frequent games.  Get the clubs to commit to this, acknowledge and appreciate hurlers need to play just as much as footballers.  Provide more resources for clubs in hurling development terms.

FQ reporting from HQ, over and out. Tyrone, turn the f**king lights out quick, do you think we are made of money!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 22, 2009, 10:22:45 PM
I remember the non starred games being as they were, glorified challenge games, while Dinny was the man that propelled us to a new level,the leagues did suffer. Could Dinny change it and use a new method while not disrupting the leagues? Or will he revert back to the last method?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on October 23, 2009, 09:04:39 AM
imo dinny cahill would be a good move for antrim. it,s a cse of other countys moving forward not antrim moving back !!! this time (with the advantage of hindsight) he,ll knw how to move forward.. by the way ger rogan got manager of the year in derry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 23, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: milltown row on October 22, 2009, 10:22:45 PM
I remember the non starred games being as they were, glorified challenge games, while Dinny was the man that propelled us to a new level,the leagues did suffer. Could Dinny change it and use a new method while not disrupting the leagues? Or will he revert back to the last method?


i seem to remember some sort of 'countess of Antrim' competition which was played minus county players and although it gaqve the non-county players a run out was lacking in the quality and intensity of a full run out.

You gotta remember Dinny is from Tipp where it is very common for county players not to play with their clubs through league campaigns but in Tipp there's not too many teams sending five, six, seven players to county training which has a huge impact on club training let alone games.

in a much as these extended inter county championships, play-offs etc may be good for the high level GAA it really restricts the number of weekends open to a fixtures secretary to plan clubs games in so to an extent I have a bit of sympathy with county boards in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2009, 11:47:09 AM
Johnney, the Countess of Antrim is the North Antrim board's Intermediate Championship competition which include the likes of Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy, Ballycastle second teams and Carey, Glenarm etc (intermediate clubs). The final is played over the Feis weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2009, 12:26:42 PM
Here Clár

Would you mind finding out why "Admin" didn't post my response to his "it's a myth that dinny stopped players playing club games" reply to an earlier post which had been penned (but not delivered) by my good self.

Does the truth hurt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 23, 2009, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2009, 11:47:09 AM
Johnney, the Countess of Antrim is the North Antrim board's Intermediate Championship competition which include the likes of Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy, Ballycastle second teams and Carey, Glenarm etc (intermediate clubs). The final is played over the Feis weekend

I remember playing in something of that name or similar with teams from the Ards and Belfast teams possibly eight to ten years ago. We were playing minus county players for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 23, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Any Truth in the rumour that Joe Edwards jacked it in? Big loss if he has I,d say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Colonel Cool on October 23, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: Templar on October 23, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Any Truth in the rumour that Joe Edwards jacked it in? Big loss if he has I,d say

What happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 23, 2009, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 23, 2009, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 23, 2009, 11:47:09 AM
Johnney, the Countess of Antrim is the North Antrim board's Intermediate Championship competition which include the likes of Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy, Ballycastle second teams and Carey, Glenarm etc (intermediate clubs). The final is played over the Feis weekend

I remember playing in something of that name or similar with teams from the Ards and Belfast teams possibly eight to ten years ago. We were playing minus county players for sure.


was it not a 13 a side competition Timmons Shield?

i remeber we had a Belfast Competition played in Casement over the july period without county players (we didn't have any :() but only went for a while then faded away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 23, 2009, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2009, 12:26:42 PM
Here Clár

Would you mind finding out why "Admin" didn't post my response to his "it's a myth that dinny stopped players playing club games" reply to an earlier post which had been penned (but not delivered) by my good self.

Does the truth hurt?

Hi Skull, I would like to help but I think thi sis something you should take up with the county 'Admin'.  Do you think I am some sort of a message boy for you or something. Do you not think I hav eenough to do running around after the 'Doc', making tea for Tyrone, cleaning the changing rooms, waxing my car, cleaning the windiows of my Tardice, keeping an eye on the GAABoard - Antrim Hurling Thread.  Fer de luva jaysess Skull, I am surprised at you.  'Hey Tyrone, this fecker Skull on the GAABoard thinks I have nothing better to do'.

From an Antrim GAA Web Site perspective Skull, I think you could be right, 'the truth' does hurt.  But I think the same applies to the GAABoard - Antrim hurling thread. Many a poster has been kicked off here when they told the truth or intimated that others where not telling the truth or did not like to be told the truth.  Such is life, we move on though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clár Fograí on October 23, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Good Luck to Dunloy, St. Galls and Rasharkin this weekend.  Lets make it an Antrim treble boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2009, 07:13:07 PM
Will the Tardice be open tonight for the Mageean Cup final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2009, 09:46:06 PM
Mageean Cup Final Result

Cross And Passion 3-16 St Marys 0-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on October 23, 2009, 10:08:19 PM
CPC have a fair sprinkling of last years all ireland team left as far as I know, good win none the less well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 24, 2009, 06:33:27 PM
Yeah congrats to CPC on retaining the Mageean Cup. Future looking good for them too; they put 10 goals past Maghera in the McNamee final.

As for tomorrow Dunloy won the county final comfortably in the end up but in the 1st 20 mins their full back line looked vulnerable and Cushendall had 3/4 good goal chances which they didnt take. If Ballycrans pacey forwards can get good possession they can give the Dunloy full back line a tough time. However if Dunloys experienced players play like they did against the Dall i expect them to pull through by 4/5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
any word on how st gall's did in the hurling??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 25, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
any word on how st gall's did in the hurling??

Won 5-12 to 0-11, i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2009, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 25, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
any word on how st gall's did in the hurling??

Won 5-12 to 0-11, i think.
5-11 to 0-12. Handy enough either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:16:44 PM
Any match reports?

I heard there was a dramatic last 10 minutes - what happened in it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2009, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 25, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
any word on how st gall's did in the hurling??

Won 5-12 to 0-11, i think.
5-11 to 0-12. Handy enough either way.
jesus that was a terribly easy run through ulster!! Wont do them much good goin into an All Ireland Semi.. .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2009, 10:57:32 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2009, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 25, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on October 25, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
any word on how st gall's did in the hurling??

Won 5-12 to 0-11, i think.
5-11 to 0-12. Handy enough either way.
jesus that was a terribly easy run through ulster!! Wont do them much good goin into an All Ireland Semi.. .
10 goals in 2 matches.

Milltown did all your footballers make it thru unscathed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 26, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
Just been informed by  a reliable sourcel.  Which one of you boys got Clár Fograí gassed? Come on, own up lads.  It would appear we have a 'Dogs Ear' lurking in are midst.  He only got gassed after the Donal Og comment. Any insight fealls?

The 'truth' does hurt sometimes.

I have not heard from 'Man in the Middle' for some time either, the dirty swine!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Templar on October 26, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
Just been informed by  a reliable sourcel.  Which one of you boys got Clár Fograí gassed? Come on, own up lads.  It would appear we have a 'Dogs Ear' lurking in are midst.  He only got gassed after the Donal Og comment. Any insight fealls?

The 'truth' does hurt sometimes.

I have not heard from 'Man in the Middle' for some time either, the dirty swine!

Is he sitting beside you or is he maybe sitting in the chair that your sitting in at the minute.  :)

Youse new members aren't long hooking up with each other (not in a Donal Og way I hasten to add)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2009, 03:39:03 PM
What did he say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 06:10:09 PM
I don't know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2009, 06:11:46 PM
Things will never be the same again. We will probably never hear from him again................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 26, 2009, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Templar on October 26, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
Just been informed by  a reliable sourcel.  Which one of you boys got Clár Fograí gassed? Come on, own up lads.  It would appear we have a 'Dogs Ear' lurking in are midst.  He only got gassed after the Donal Og comment. Any insight fealls?

The 'truth' does hurt sometimes.

I have not heard from 'Man in the Middle' for some time either, the dirty swine!

Is he sitting beside you or is he maybe sitting in the chair that your sitting in at the minute.  :)

Youse new members aren't long hooking up with each other (not in a Donal Og way I hasten to add)

I have'nt the slightest notion what your talking about Skull.???????????????  What is it that you are inferring anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Templar on October 26, 2009, 07:05:42 PM
Well done Miltown, tremendous result for St. Gall's.  You were hardly tested at all in Ulster.  Get the boys plenty of challenge games prior to the All Ireland series.  I am sure Dunloy, Loughgeil, Cushendal, Rossa and Ballycastle will oblige.  No point in challenging anyone else in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2009, 07:34:14 PM
Be careful Skull you are not challenged to another duel outside Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Green Grass on October 26, 2009, 11:28:29 PM
Glad to see Rasharkin getting beat, hateful shower of c***ts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 12:25:31 AM
Whats this about half the NA board standing down?

Jesus that would be a disaster
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Post by: the colonel on October 27, 2009, 09:26:19 AM
I see the talk on the NA site, but where have the rumours come from? Obviously something has sparked this?

If it is to happen, then it may go in two ways. it could fall to its arse or continue to excel. Hopefully club members will take a look at what has been done in the last few years and ensure that all these inniatives will continue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2009, 09:54:14 AM
Heard NK is definitely standing down, the rug has been pulled out just too many times. Brilliant work has been done in the last few years particularly in coaching and games development and being in and around it there was a powerful head of steam built up but the restructuring at HQ over the summer and and the ideas they have mooted for the future leave me feeling less than enthusiastic and must leave the NA board in an untenable position. The strategy appears to be to scrap the divisional boards which IMO sounds like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 27, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
North Antrim to their immense credit seem to have done fantastic work over the last number of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 01:39:50 PM
I've heard it all now. No one has done more than NK to push the game on across all clubs that are interested in developing the game of hurling (regardless of where they're from...South Antrim, Derry, Donegal). He's cushendall to the absolute back bone but all clubs will have benefitted from his commitment and drive. You'll not see too many County Board administrators at U8 blitzes. In fact at all age groups Niall would be there. He just loves the game and shows it by his involvement at the grass root while others simply pay lip service and push paper around and make a few phone calls.

The minute I start seeing a few more bodies around casement who look and show that they really give a damn about the game then I might change my view, but at the minute this to me is an absolute disater waiting to happen if it came to pass. Clubs will have to revolt IMO until they see that the County Board has the personnel with the right credentials and drive to deliver a entusiastic structure that at the very least equals what NA under NK's stewardship has acheived.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2009, 02:04:54 PM
What really confuses me is that a template has been created in NA that has been shown to deliver results for all clubs involved, that same template that could be applied wherever required but as usual personalities and petty rivalries come in to it and whats really important gets lost. The Div board system appears top work well in every successful hurling county I can think off so why not in Antrim or is saving face what its all about and sidelining those who wont settle for mediocrity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 31, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
u21 Championship game between Dunloy & St Galls not played, St Galls didn't field.  referee their so not sure what will happen now,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2009, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 31, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
u21 Championship game between Dunloy & St Galls not played, St Galls didn't field.  referee their so not sure what will happen now,

this is my opinion, bad form that the match was not played, its been called off and re-fixed twice!!!

should we play without Burkey and CJ? well if it meant that we were not going to play at all then yes. no doubt that Burkey and CJ  had they played we would be a better team, but now 13 other players are not going to play in the semi final.

should St Galls win tomorrow then there was a free weekend next week, why would that date not suit?

this happened to the minor football final a few years back, poor form then also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 31, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
On a more general point, if a referee turns up & puts in a match report for any game that one, or even both teams failed to field, that should be the end of it.

The powers that be should ensure that the due fines are imposed immediately, points deducted, teams thrown out of knock-out competitions. There's far too much of this old shit goes on & next thing lo & behold matches are magically re-fixed & no sanctions imposed. Far too much time being wasted on this CHC & DRA shit imho. All needs to be sorted, but it never will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2009, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 31, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
On a more general point, if a referee turns up & puts in a match report for any game that one, or even both teams failed to field, that should be the end of it.

The powers that be should ensure that the due fines are imposed immediately, points deducted, teams thrown out of knock-out competitions. There's far too much of this old shit goes on & next thing lo & behold matches are magically re-fixed & no sanctions imposed. Far too much time being wasted on this CHC & DRA shit imho. All needs to be sorted, but it never will be.

your right, got to Interm. final back in 97. referee there, us on the pitch supporters paid into Casement and they didn't show!!! we the players wanted to play the game. we did in Januay! of course no fine or sanctions imposed. lucky we won the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2009, 07:07:57 PM
From what I read both teams agreed to this date so St Galls would have known there was a possibility they would have an Ulster Football match tomorrow. I take it the St Galls football manager put extreme pressure on the hurling management not to field. St Galls should be kicked out of te competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2009, 07:32:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2009, 07:07:57 PM
From what I read both teams agreed to this date so St Galls would have known there was a possibility they would have an Ulster Football match tomorrow. I take it the St Galls football manager put extreme pressure on the hurling management not to field. St Galls should be kicked out of te competition.

well if they are then its shite on the 13 other lads who have been looking forward to the game, CJ and Burkey were also looking forward to the game. crap all round.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
St Galls should be punished though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on October 31, 2009, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
St Galls should be punished though.

has caused some debate, and agreed minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 01, 2009, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 01, 2009, 08:28:57 PM
The Johnnies didn't field against Rossa in the U14 league final.

St. John's bate Dunloy in the league.............

Word has it that Cushendall have pulled out of the league?................

Something stinks here.

Why would they have pulled out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 01, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Hopefully Colonel or some of the Cushendall posters will shed some light on it............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2009, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 01, 2009, 08:28:57 PM
The Johnnies didn't field against Rossa in the U14 league final.

St. John's bate Dunloy in the league.............

Word has it that Cushendall have pulled out of the league?................

Something stinks here.

Posting from the bog again HS  :)

And on that theme
St Johns got over the line "just" against a depleted Dunloy side on a crap day on a crap pitch with both teams playing crap. There is no smoking gun.

After all the bad mouthing about NA not giving a shit about hurling in SA are you now accusing us of caring?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2009, 02:09:38 PM
Any word on when the u21 final is being played then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 02, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 01, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Hopefully Colonel or some of the Cushendall posters will shed some light on it............

our boys played portaferry last week, so I shouldnt see why we would have pulled out of the league. waiting on the county to give us fixtures, we'll play them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2009, 04:01:00 PM
Groundlie,

My reading of the situation that you were more or less mathmatically down?

Is this not the case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2009, 04:13:54 PM
But again then if Loughgiel dont field against them then they will get the points and your scuppered.

Im not against you in anyway, but these crucial games should not be, being played out on unfit pitches at this time of the year.

Plus its time that st johns took a look at themselves and asked why are we in the position and what are we going to do to get out of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2009, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: groundlie on November 02, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
I take it you were not at the St Johns vs Dunloy game? Because you would have seen a very entertaining game if you were! Yes Dunloy were not at full strength but they had at least 7 of the ulster winning team playing. So with that taken into account it was not bad for us, a so called Div 2 team. Our lads played with a lot of spirit, hunger and not for the first time this year Brian and Simon carried us over the line. McFall is still the best forward in the county in my opinion with the exception of McIntosh from glenarrife perhaps.

I think we still may be able to stay up. Asking a lot though.

You're easy pleased Groundie if thats what you call entertaining. Great result for yourselves of course but it was a poor surface which resulted in a dogged low scoring game. Some great scores from McFall though I agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 02, 2009, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: groundlie on November 02, 2009, 04:03:51 PM
If we beat the dall, or if they don't field against us (rumor they have finished for the year) then we would be a point clear of ballygalget if they lose to loughgeil.

I would say Cushendall will field as there is a £300 fine for not fielding. The team they send out may not be the strongest though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 03, 2009, 08:00:50 AM
antrim website.white smoke at casement. Dinny in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 03, 2009, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: groundlie on November 02, 2009, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 02, 2009, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 01, 2009, 08:28:57 PM
The Johnnies didn't field against Rossa in the U14 league final.

St. John's bate Dunloy in the league.............

Word has it that Cushendall have pulled out of the league?................

Something stinks here.

Theskull1,


Posting from the bog again HS  :)

And on that theme
St Johns got over the line "just" against a depleted Dunloy side on a crap day on a crap pitch with both teams playing crap. There is no smoking gun.

After all the bad mouthing about NA not giving a shit about hurling in SA are you now accusing us of caring?  :)



I take it you were not at the St Johns vs Dunloy game? Because you would have seen a very entertaining game if you were! Yes Dunloy were not at full strength but they had at least 7 of the ulster winning team playing. So with that taken into account it was not bad for us, a so called Div 2 team. Our lads played with a lot of spirit, hunger and not for the first time this year Brian and Simon carried us over the line. McFall is still the best forward in the county in my opinion with the exception of McIntosh from glenarrife perhaps.

I think we still may be able to stay up. Asking a lot though.

At present at least Paddy Richmond, Shane McNaughton (when on form), Neil McManus (and its not his strongest position) rank ahead of McFall.

But fair play to the big man for plugging away.

Will he make a further push now Dinny is back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 03, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Dinny's back, good news IMO. I can see the beef that people from senior clubs have with him but as someone from a junior club I was always taken by his enthusiasm and humility. I'd say his approach will be totally different this time round, he'll have listened to Cody enough to know that he needs to bring the clubs with him. Good to see Dick in to, top of my list without a doubt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2009, 10:07:49 AM
Conversely I can see why Junior clubs are happy with this appointment, but lads....make no mistake .....he will be all about improving the fortunes of the County Team during his tenure regardless of the impact that his approach has on the local game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 03, 2009, 10:16:03 AM
The only thing about it Skull is, he's in and to be honest and realistic I don't know who else we could have got. I'd say theres a good few miles on the Bora now and he will definitely have matured a bit as a manager. The clubs will have to stay close if they want to influence policy and sure aren't yourselves as best placed as any.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2009, 11:31:31 AM
There would need to be some serious stipulations put on this appointment lads. Yes he is a great coach (poor manager) he will improve the team no doubt and there is plenty of talent there which will benefit from his no nonsense approach.

However the clubs have to stand up and be strong and say that we will be playing our games regardless of the county teams progress, yes we will help when it is appropriate and give them their weeks grace but we but standing idle for a whole summer because of 30 players and Dinny.

I hope that G O'Kane will have enough influence on him to be able to bring the clubs along, but IMO honest opinion if its a second in command appointment like his last tenures then there will be very little advise taken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2009, 11:59:21 AM
Posted this on the County Website and got the following response from the revisionist man in green

Admin Quote to previous poster "But stop trotting out this gullible nonsense that Dinny had anything to do with club leagues in the past. It is a complete and utter fallacy."

My Response
????? Come on Admin.....County Players (virtually...no doubt there was the very very rare exception to pull me on)nevered hurled a ball for their clubs at training or in matches from the NHL until late July/August when Dinny was running Antrim for I think the first 3 years. Then when clubs wanted change he still trained them Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning before they played league/feis games later on the Sunday leaving them totally unable to perform to the right level for their clubs. I wish you would stop accusing people who were there that these realities were nonsense. Surely you have to accept that things were the way they were?


Admins reply (which edits out all of my comments)
Name : theskull1             03 November 2009
Admin Quote ????

Complete and utter balderdash. Your post was devoid of any facts whatsoever. Peddle your rubbish elsewhere, not on here.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2009, 12:10:04 PM
Skull I would go back to them over the Starred and Non Starred games, where did this come from if not to apease the county hurling set up of the day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 03, 2009, 01:47:37 PM
In a few short years, there won't be a club scene to speak of, if things continue the way they are.

The worst thing the GAA ever did was to introduce the back door system. You get a few weeks of club action in the spring, then the only thing that matters from May-August is inter-county action. Suddenly, the counties realise that their club championships have to be squeezed in in late August - early October, to meet provincial club championship timetables & that's it. No club activity to speak of during the summer & then a mad rush to complete everything in a few weeks, when the clock has gone back & pitches are too heavy. Why anyone would want to bust a gut from Jan-Mar or Apr doing pre-season just for that is getting difficult to understand. League matches should be played off on a regular basis throughout the entire period, end of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 03, 2009, 10:58:57 PM
Not happy with Dinny back, costs a fortune which could be spent better elsewhere and treats the national league with total disdain to say nothing of club matches. Personally would have been happier with a lower profile and lower cost manager who would build steadily and not try to hype things up. Dinny will never be off the back page of the Irish News, journalists must be rubbing their hands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 03, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 03, 2009, 10:58:57 PM
Not happy with Dinny back, costs a fortune which could be spent better elsewhere and treats the national league with total disdain to say nothing of club matches. Personally would have been happier with a lower profile and lower cost manager who would build steadily and not try to hype things up. Dinny will never be off the back page of the Irish News, journalists must be rubbing their hands.
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Not much different to his predecessors then, there must not have been a soul interested if we are back to Dinny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 03:54:36 PM
cant understand the moaning about dinnys appointment on here, as far as i can remember antrim seemed to be going places under him. i was there for the games against tipp and wexford. fair enough he shot himself in the foot with the cork prematch comments but thats the kind of mistake easily learned from.

since dinny, what? great white hope u21 teams beat by derry twice (who done f all training for them) and worse than nothing when outside ulster. i was at the dublin game this year and i thought the lack of competitiveness shown by antrim was a disgrace. to see the players troop off at full time like they knew they were just down to fulfill a fixture was a disgrace.

antrim hurling has had false dawns down the years but at least they looked like they were out for a big scalp under dinny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
Steve the problem was that he took 30 players to that level and the rest of the players were screwed over for them to get there. The clubs didnt get to play games they never saw their county players from one month to the next and hence what ever competitiveness was left in the league games seeped away.

The players were so committed in that time that the clubs suffered and hence why the debate about Dinny coming back.

He will no doubt improve the current team and will make them competitive but the clubs are no satisfied to sacrifice their season this time around to that end.

So either he comes in and works with the clubs and lets the games go ahead or he comes in butts heads with them and makes an early exit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 04, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 03:54:36 PM
cant understand the moaning about dinnys appointment on here, as far as i can remember antrim seemed to be going places under him.

???
If you read this thread then surely you'd get the picture?

Putting all your eggs in the one basket (i.e. Development of the County Teams fortunes) with no regard for the club game is committing suicide from a hurling development perspective. Strengthening the club game is the only way to improve/increase the number of players who play the game at close to the right level in this County.

People who know the local game know this to be the truth. Fly by night supporters with their antrim umbrella see nothing else but County hurling & do not have a clue about the local game itself because they never see it. But that won't stop them bleating on that this is nothing else than a great appointment. Many people have reservations based on past experiences. I hope he has evolved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 04, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 03:54:36 PM
cant understand the moaning about dinnys appointment on here, as far as i can remember antrim seemed to be going places under him.

???
If you read this thread then surely you'd get the picture?

Putting all your eggs in the one basket (i.e. Development of the County Teams fortunes) with no regard for the club game is committing suicide from a hurling development perspective. Strengthening the club game is the only way to improve/increase the number of players who play the game at close to the right level in this County.

People who know the local game know this to be the truth. Fly by night supporters with their antrim umbrella see nothing else but County hurling & do not have a clue about the local game itself because they never see it. But that won't stop them bleating on that this is nothing else than a great appointment. Many people have reservations based on past experiences. I hope he has evolved

surely the county board have as much a say as dinny when something has a detrimental effect on club games ??? seems harsh to pin it all on dinny. im sure an accommodation can be made with the clubs this time, in which event i dont see a reason for the gloom

antrim had a bit of fight about them when dinny was there, last time out they looked an apathetic bunch ready to limp out according to script
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 04, 2009, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 04, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on November 04, 2009, 03:54:36 PM
cant understand the moaning about dinnys appointment on here, as far as i can remember antrim seemed to be going places under him.

???
If you read this thread then surely you'd get the picture?

Putting all your eggs in the one basket (i.e. Development of the County Teams fortunes) with no regard for the club game is committing suicide from a hurling development perspective. Strengthening the club game is the only way to improve/increase the number of players who play the game at close to the right level in this County.

People who know the local game know this to be the truth. Fly by night supporters with their antrim umbrella see nothing else but County hurling & do not have a clue about the local game itself because they never see it. But that won't stop them bleating on that this is nothing else than a great appointment. Many people have reservations based on past experiences. I hope he has evolved

surely the county board have as much a say as dinny when something has a detrimental effect on club games ??? seems harsh to pin it all on dinny. im sure an accommodation can be made with the clubs this time, in which event i dont see a reason for the gloom

antrim had a bit of fight about them when dinny was there, last time out they looked an apathetic bunch ready to limp out according to script

Agree with you Steve about it being harsh on pinning some of the blame on Dinny for the current state of Antrim club hurling. Before Dinny came in 2002 there had only been 2 winners of the county title in the previous 11 seasons and the competiveness of club hurling had been going down for a time before 2002. What he got out of the players in 2002 and especially 2003 was extraordinary and hopefully he can get something out of this different group of players, of whom a core group of 7/8 will be around the 21 to 23 age bracket so there should be room for improvement with them.

However the last 2 seasons of Dinnys first reign were not good and the day they trooped off the pitch in Salthill after a qualifier with Galway in 2005, they were a sad looking bunch. Hopefully we dont see his team looking like that too much in the next couple of years but rather he gets an improvement in the players. If he can also helpe out with the underage coaching in the county as he mentioned in the paper today all the better.

We have to have a county manager and if hes willing and able let him at it and we can have a discussion about performances, state of club hurling etc. under his watch this time next year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 04, 2009, 09:52:32 PM
would love to kown where he gets all the time to coach these teams!! he was looking after a Kilkenny club and is currently lookng after a galway club this year too!!!

he's like a sailor............. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on November 05, 2009, 08:59:38 AM
Thats it boys give him a trial before you hang him.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2009, 09:49:31 AM
This time last year we were having the same discussion about baker, we do it all the time...

I hope he does well. I like him and I don't think the club stuff was solely his fault. If they manage the club stuff I hope he can get a bit of heart back into the county team. It's been sadly lacking this last year at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on November 05, 2009, 09:53:09 AM
You'll be in danger if he announces a 3 year plan. You need to be aiming to be compeditive 2010 ITG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 05, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
Believe me lads, I think Dinny will do a good job with the county team we have as there are a good number of quality players there, I think their egos got the better of them in some cases.

But the clubs need to be strong enough to say no to 3day weekend training during the league season at least. They need to be strong enough to play their county players in their league games and not be dictated too by anyone.

And lastly if Dinny is to do any club work (which in his statement was intimated that he would) he must undertake to do this in a fair and equitable manner and not run after one club as he did previously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 06, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
I was going to say the other day would Karl McKeegan go on another year. He only continued last year because Antrim got into Leinster. I see on hoganstand he said he might go ahead with retiring as wasn't sure was it worth the effort. I'd say Dinny would want Karl to play as he was probably the star performer in Dinny's reign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2009, 10:44:14 AM
Colonel it will be very interesting to see if Dinny can hold onto some of the older players or what strategy he takes in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Buzz on November 06, 2009, 11:03:36 AM
Whats the alternative? you've got the guy shot before hes done anything wrong (this time). Should be grateful hes interested!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2009, 11:13:34 AM
Buzz what would you know about it?

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 06, 2009, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 06, 2009, 10:44:14 AM
Colonel it will be very interesting to see if Dinny can hold onto some of the older players or what strategy he takes in this regard.

if i can recollect from Dinny's last reign, he kinda got rid of a lot of the old guard like horse O'Kane and Ally Elliott and built up a fairly young team.
The current Antrim squad is very young in general so I wouldn't expect to see too many withdrawals other than maybe the likes of Karl.
Will Dinny be able to get young Watson on side again as Watson played his bet hurling under Dinny?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2009, 12:51:11 PM
Well he did pander too him enough at that time so many he will be able to get him back on board!
He might have to match his outlandish package at DC to do so though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 08, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling   
Ballygalget    1-18   1-17   Loughgiel

That win for Ballygalget sees St. John's relegated and no city teams in Div 1 next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 08, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling   
Ballygalget    1-18   1-17   Loughgiel

That win for Ballygalget sees St. John's relegated and no city teams in Div 1 next year.

can we not beat Glenariffe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 09, 2009, 12:53:19 AM
Will you manage to get all your games played MR before the 22nd with the footballers progressing in Ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 09:05:59 AM
I think No is the answer to that question.  :-\

Bad day for city hurling in the short term, but maybe the kick up the arse that they need to get their act together collectively.

BUT Can see some arm twisting taking place behind the scenes to change the league format rather than them take their medicine and regain some confidence in a lower league similar to Glenariffe

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 10:16:34 AM
Skull I think you are right that there could be some back door dealing to change the league format.

This has been coming to the Belfast clubs now for 10 - 15 years, I think it is time they sat up and said this is no longer good enough what we are doing and change it.

The Belfast clubs should be looking to other large urban areas and see what is being done successfully. Sine of the Dublin clubs are a shining light to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 09, 2009, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 09:05:59 AM
I think No is the answer to that question.  :-\

Bad day for city hurling in the short term, but maybe the kick up the arse that they need to get their act together collectively.

BUT Can see some arm twisting taking place behind the scenes to change the league format rather than them take their medicine and regain some confidence in a lower league similar to Glenariffe

Certainly a must win game for us yesterday and we nearly blew it. we up by 8 or 9 at a stage, only to see the bodies pull it back but we managed to hold out in the end.

Neither team was near full strength as one of our lads had his stag party in Cardiff with 10 of the team over at it, five flew back that morning for the game and we'd have been fucked without them.

for 2010 i wouldn't be surprised if the league format was changed yet again and even though we were nearly caught (and still might be) there's not a lot wrong with the current format, it's the timing of the fixtures is the problem with no one other than the likes of ourselves caught in the relegation mire giving a f**k for fixtures in the back end of November and even we're struggling to get players motivated to travel up the country on wet, pishy, cold november days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:34:00 AM
Just because the league format is the right one JC, doesn't mean that some clandestine forces won't try and change it to suit narrow minded short sighted interests.

I hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 10:57:15 AM
Good committment JC to get 5 boys back at that sort of notice.

I recall another stag party on the weekend of a championship game which kind of sums up the committment of the club in question IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 09, 2009, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 10:57:15 AM
Good committment JC to get 5 boys back at that sort of notice.

I recall another stag party on the weekend of a championship game which kind of sums up the committment of the club in question IMO

Fair point,

does that win mean we will win the league this year or can loughgiel still catch us, i think mathematically if they win all their games they possibly could, but they have 2 weekends to play 4 games, are they really that bothered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 09, 2009, 01:39:26 PM
League table for Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team P W L D P+ P- P+/- Pts
Dunloy  11 10 1 0 216 145 71 20
Loughgiel  10 6 4 0 180 148 32 12
Cushendall  10 6 4 0 169 148 21 12
Ballycran  12 6 6 0 176 186 -10 12
Portaferry  12 5 6 1 189 172 17 11
Ballycastle  13 5 7 1 206 198 8 11
Ballygalget  14 5 8 1 179 224 -45 10
St. Johns  12 2 9 1 159 253 -94 5

1pt deducted from Ballygalget (ftf v Ballycastle)
- (Updated: 08 November 2009)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 09, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 08, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling   
Ballygalget    1-18   1-17   Loughgiel

That win for Ballygalget sees St. John's relegated and no city teams in Div 1 next year.

can we not beat Glenariffe?

When are you going to play your games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 09, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 09, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 08, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling   
Ballygalget    1-18   1-17   Loughgiel

That win for Ballygalget sees St. John's relegated and no city teams in Div 1 next year.

can we not beat Glenariffe?

When are you going to play your games?

Will all teams who have failed to fulfill their fixtures before the 22nd be fined and lose a point?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 03:42:23 PM
Think they are making a difference between failing to field and not fulfilling matches due to the cut off point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 09, 2009, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 03:42:23 PM
Think they are making a difference between failing to field and not fulfilling matches due to the cut off point.

Being pedantic but if all fixtures were scheduled prior to the cut off point then that doesn't make sense.

The Antrim web site has fixtures scheduled up till christmas day  ;) but some of the outstanding fixtures were supposed to be played in July and surely to god should have been fitted in before now.

The admin on the Antrim web site is always giving out about clubs calling games off at a whim and he/she may have a point. If all clubs who have outstanding fixtures (which had been properly scheduled in the first place) were fined and docked points there'd be a bigger onus on teams to fulfill even if it is their U-21 team  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
Yeah I agree completely with you.

The clubs are going to have to take responsibility for our games. Instead of calling a match off because there are one or two missing think of the other 28 guys who are actualy available to play. Clubs need to get away from the attitude of being afraid to be beat as opposed to just going out and trying to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 09, 2009, 06:43:13 PM
i'm with ya lads, games should be played all the time.

i've never asked for a game to be cancelled all year. i even tried to arrange games with Gorts and looking to play games this weekend (sat)

what happened with the under 21's was wrong i've already stated that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 09, 2009, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 09, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 08, 2009, 09:32:21 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling   
Ballygalget    1-18   1-17   Loughgiel

That win for Ballygalget sees St. John's relegated and no city teams in Div 1 next year.

can we not beat Glenariffe?

When are you going to play your games?
Minder, the answer wanted was "no"!

In all seriousness though it's ridiculous to still be playing matches after the clocks shifting. If you have any 15 plus subs available you should play the match. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 09, 2009, 07:36:10 PM
I know what you are saying - but it's the same conversation at this time of the year, every year. Most teams do as much as they have to to stay out of trouble, then there is the mad scramble in November each year for the few still with an interest at either end of the table. In general, nobody gives a monkies about the leagues any more, otherwise they'd play all their games. That's a good suggestion a while back - failure to field & failure to fulfil should be made the same offence - impose fines & dock points, county makes plenty of money, everybody happy, season over in September !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 09, 2009, 07:59:45 PM
a good answer to this would be to have playoffs, games can be played all year with or without county players.

top four play off for the league and the bottom four play off to avoid relegation. these games to be played after our county team is out of the championship as all players will have their main players back. no excuses!!!

what ya think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
Sure the playoffs would be played at this time of year..... :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Buzz on November 10, 2009, 02:25:23 PM
whats your beef nag? :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
Sure the playoffs would be played at this time of year..... :-\

not if we play the games throughout the summer when we usually have a break for a month!!! leagues finish earlier then the play offs when ya have all your players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
Sure the playoffs would be played at this time of year..... :-\

not if we play the games throughout the summer when we usually have a break for a month!!! leagues finish earlier then the play offs when ya have all your players

So you'd be playing playoffs at the same time you'd be playing championship...is that right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 10, 2009, 02:49:45 PM
Yeah but adding play off your adding another layer off complexity to the mix.

I dont mind the idea of a play off system because it does bring some meaning to the leagues in that you want to make the semi-final or you want to avoid getting drawn into the relegation play offs. However we would need to get the games that are scheduled played first.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 10, 2009, 04:32:24 PM
cushendall to play dunloy this weekend in dunloy, so where ever those rumours came from were crap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
Sure the playoffs would be played at this time of year..... :-\

not if we play the games throughout the summer when we usually have a break for a month!!! leagues finish earlier then the play offs when ya have all your players

So you'd be playing playoffs at the same time you'd be playing championship...is that right?

Skull either ya like or not, stop being pedantic ;)

clearly the current method is shite, with the play offs it means games are played with/without county players cut off date for the league is before the championship. playoffs to be played after county final last week in August. that will mean 2nd weekend of Sept, played over two weekends. great preparation for the county winners also in Ulster!!

some tweaking here and there but playoffs are the way forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2009, 09:10:06 AM
Has the u21 final been arranged for Friday night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 11, 2009, 09:29:18 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 10, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
Sure the playoffs would be played at this time of year..... :-\

not if we play the games throughout the summer when we usually have a break for a month!!! leagues finish earlier then the play offs when ya have all your players

So you'd be playing playoffs at the same time you'd be playing championship...is that right?

Skull either ya like or not, stop being pedantic ;)

clearly the current method is shite, with the play offs it means games are played with/without county players cut off date for the league is before the championship. playoffs to be played after county final last week in August. that will mean 2nd weekend of Sept, played over two weekends. great preparation for the county winners also in Ulster!!

some tweaking here and there but playoffs are the way forward

Is there any reason for the county finals being so early considering the Ulster championship consists of two games then the winners sit on their hands till february all the while the Munster and Leinster champioships are being played out?

There's definately a loss of interest in playing games once you're out of the championship and that mindset will need to change irrespective of what formats are used.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 11, 2009, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 11, 2009, 09:10:06 AM
Has the u21 final been arranged for Friday night?

U21 Hurling Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Dunloy  Rossa  Casement Park 13/11/2009 19:15 McAuley Liam 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 12, 2009, 03:26:04 PM
Any predictions for this one lads?

Show be a good encounter, Dunloy would have to start favourites but this is a good young Rossa side so wouldnt be writing them off. Finally is there a good news story for hurling in Belfast after all the doom and gloom?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Uladhabu on November 12, 2009, 03:57:33 PM
MR is it true about the split in your club over U21 debacle, hurlers against footballers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 12, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: Uladhabu on November 12, 2009, 03:57:33 PM
MR is it true about the split in your club over U21 debacle, hurlers against footballers?

Christ every club has a difference of opinion. the under 21 ones feel aggrieved that they didn't get to play the semi final. granted the way things were handled could have been better but no split. all of the under 21's will be down in Armagh on Sunday cheering on their club/mates.

success brings problems, i think a lot of clubs would love to be in our position. Ya can't please everybody
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 12, 2009, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 12, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: Uladhabu on November 12, 2009, 03:57:33 PM
MR is it true about the split in your club over U21 debacle, hurlers against footballers?

Christ every club has a difference of opinion. the under 21 ones feel aggrieved that they didn't get to play the semi final. granted the way things were handled could have been better but no split. all of the under 21's will be down in Armagh on Sunday cheering on their club/mates.

success brings problems, i think a lot of clubs would love to be in our position. Ya can't please everybody

Indeed it does, i know a few of our minor footballers hold a grudge against the club for depriving them the chance of a Minor final a few years ago.  In both instances its a real shame both teams didn;t take their chances without the star players and not deprive the rest the opportunity.

Would know very little about this Rossa team other than what i saw last year in the u21 championship, they had a very decent team then, i was very impressed with their no8 that day.

The fact they convincingly beat the overwhelming favourites for the competition is testament to their pedigree and it should be a good game. 

Its a bit bizarre that this dominant Cushendall teams with Graffin, McManus, Natty, McGill, Shanebo et al, who to be fair have backboned senior successes will not have an u21 medal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 12, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
I think Natty is out of U-21 a few years Max, if it is Donal Mc Naughton you are talking about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 12, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
natty is 24, brian delargy and eunan mckillop 25/26, both would have played in a couple of u21 finals and lost and neither got anywhere near a minor championship, more players who never saw much underage success
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 12, 2009, 11:03:20 PM
might be another reason its off ;)

Minder we are playing ya's next sunday :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 13, 2009, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 12, 2009, 11:03:20 PM
might be another reason its off ;)

Minder we are playing ya's next sunday :o

So I believe, are youse gonna try and play all your games. It would be a nice touch if you have us a guard of honour onto the pitch as league champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 13, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: Uladhabu on November 12, 2009, 03:57:33 PM
MR is it true about the split in your club over U21 debacle, hurlers against footballers?

That would be some split.  milltown row vs the rest.

Oh and I made the other thing up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2009, 09:45:56 AM
Is the match on or off lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2009, 09:53:19 AM
Game is still on. SS2 was winding us all up .......hahahahaha  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
I mustnt be getting enough sleep either that or SS2 is still not funny  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2009, 09:43:09 PM
i heard we won the appeal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2009, 10:10:31 PM
blue bags at the ready
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 13, 2009, 10:53:36 PM
Milltown put "outside the wire" for pissing himself, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 13, 2009, 11:34:08 PM
Eh??

sorry lads missed the fun.

on a serious note thats all the under age hurling competitions won by Belfast teams, namely Rossa, can anyone recall this happening before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 14, 2009, 12:44:17 AM
A lot of minors on that squad also. glad Rossa have turned the corner. only serious hurling team in Belfast. the Johnnies falter once they get past under 16
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 14, 2009, 12:09:15 PM
Well done to Rossa for the underage victories, good to see. Are Rossa favourites for Div 2 next year? It wil be a bit of a Belfast mini league with Rossa, St Gall, St Johns and the Gorts all fancying their chances
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2009, 10:57:09 AM
Anything can happen if they put in a motion to the county convention I believe. Its up to the clubs to adopt it. Would doubt it work as a home and away league as 14 games can't get played never mind whatever extra.

On another note, will dinny be taking the county u21's this year also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 16, 2009, 12:32:45 PM
Its a crazy system in the GAA where teams, including County teams, can play all year under certain structures and then if they don't suit someone then they are all changed in the off season.

Unless through EGM's changes to the structure of Championships should be passed at least 12 months before they are introduced.

I've little doubt had Ballygalget been relegated there would be no rumours of a restructure.

Dinny wasn't involved with the u21's last time so I wouldn't expect him to do this this time, how could he possibly get time. Is he still with Portumna, they looked sharp yesterday, but is Joe Canning fit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2009, 01:07:17 PM
As far as I was aware Dinny was in Kilkenny this year coaching a club team there.

Not sure about Canning although he did drift out the field towards the end of the game and hurled quite alot of ball. The game was over after the second goal, couldnt believe the difference in pace and skill as it appeared on the TV. The Loughrea defence go pulled completely out of shape which allowed Hayes to run unchallenged from 35-40 yards to strike his goal, we would be asking questions if this happened in a club game up here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 02:25:09 PM
I'm hearing a 12 league div one again! this motion has been forward by the Johnnies, which is really strange considering they backed Ballycastles motion for 8 teams!!!!!

cant get my head around it very strange indeed. can anyone think why the Johnnies have put this forward?  answer on the back of a fiver please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
Short Termism at its finest  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2009, 02:47:54 PM
When is county convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2009, 03:18:23 PM
Had my suspicions something like this would happen...

I think the leagues as they stand are fine. Division 2 is competitive for promotion as is division 3 . Division 1 is competitive for relegation. Not sure about the lower ends of 2 and 3.

Hopefully it gets voted against.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 16, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
Big Joe doesn't look quite his best, heard a rumour he has an injury that needs an op but he keeps putting iot off, who knows. L'rea allowed Portumna to create too much space, which Damien H revelled in, they didn't appear to have any sort of game plan to contain Portumnas forwards at all.
A massive challenge for Dunloy but not as hopeless as some are saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 16, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
Re. the leagues. What a complete knee jerk reaction. St.Johns are where they are ie. not quite good enough for the top flight. Why can't they take their medicine and fight like hell for promotion next year, they would be the better off and thought for it IMO. Live and die by your results.... End of.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2009, 03:36:59 PM
I think the big bonus of this league structure is that it seems to have brought the Div 2 teams on alot more and maybe should continue for a year or two.  maybe look at the benefits of the lower tiers than just division 1. but thats only looking from the outside. Improving the hurling is a long process.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Keep the leagues as they are only difference should be that two go up and two down. teams would be fighting all season, cause if there is a very strong team then most other teams don't put the effort in. but if two can go up it makes it more interesting.

lets not kid ourselves here, had Ballycastle been at the bottom this year they would have had a motion, same for the other teams that would have struggled. as for the Down teams, they cant put a motion to the County convention as they aren't from Antrim.

should the Intermediate champions go up 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2009, 04:22:42 PM
Are youse still playing us this weekend Milltown? Hardly be too many of the footballers playing with the Ulster Final the week after.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 04:28:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2009, 04:22:42 PM
Are youse still playing us this weekend Milltown? Hardly be too many of the footballers playing with the Ulster Final the week after.

all playing this weekend. speaking to them yesterday so i expect them to be there. don't worry we wont spoil your presentation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 17, 2009, 12:09:12 AM
Don't think any league proposals will get decided upon at County Convention - from memory i think the leagues and any changes are voted on at county committee meetings by clubs once they have had a chance to get a look at any changes - if it was convention there would be no time for proposals to go to the clubs.  In a 12 team Div 1 who gets to decide the 3 additional teams apart from Glenariffe that go up?  At the minute and with probably little change before cutoff the top looks like this

Glenariff 12 11 1 0 236 118 118 22
Gort Na Mona 13 9 4 0 285 214 71 18
Rossa 11 7 4 0 212 161 51 14
St. Pauls 13 6 6 1 159 194 -35 13
St. Galls 8 6 2 0 182 117 65 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 17, 2009, 07:45:59 AM
Thats certainly true about "the Town" MR, Dessie would be the first man in the room, all his phone calls made and favours called in. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2009, 09:08:00 AM
My gut feeling is that these attempts to change leagues at best do no good in the short/medium or long term for the clubs saved from relegation, but at worst make a farce of the competition overall on two fronts. The first being that if your an Antrim team with Div 1 "pedigree" then you'll not be relegated & secondly by trying to change the leagues to suit their own interest they weaken the quality of the opposition in the league.

Can anybody remember Sarsfields (and to a lesser degree Lamh Dearg) in Div1 a few years ago? It was brutal for both them and any team that hammered them. No one wants that. But GNM & StPauls/Galls better make sure they know what their going into before they would want to get the opertunity to compete again in a Div1.


I can't see many clubs being willing to accept this if they use the lessons of history to guide them 
Totally agree with Max's proposal that league changes only come into affect 12 months down the line. Why has this not been introduced earlier?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2009, 07:09:40 PM
Look clubs cant go about asking for change cause it bloody suits them. we were dropped outta the leagues one year when we had 12 points and lying joint 8th below the Johnnies on score difference and a point behind ballycastle and Glenariffe.

we had no idea of a change that year and found it very strangethat clubs were putting a serious effort into finishing their games and playing so strongly in late October!!!

i will go along with the 8 teams in div 1 but there has to be two up, two down. leagues to have play offs and leagues to be started and finished early. preferably before the county final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 18, 2009, 04:02:20 PM
Dinnys first call for players to attend trials this sunday. from the county site. A couple of surprising names there

1 John Devlin Armoy
2 Kevin B Mc Shane Ballycastle
3 Ryan Donnelly Ballycastle
4 Michael Dallat Ballycastle
5 Peter Dallat Ballycastle
6 Chris Boyle Ballycastle
7 Arron Smylie Cloughmills
8 Liam Kearns Cloughmills
9 Michael Devlin Cloughmills
10 James Doherty Cloughmills
11 Thomas McCann Creggan
12 Donal Mc Naughton Cushendall
13 Paddy Mc Naughton Cushendall
14 Michael Mc Cambridge Cushendall
15 Paddy Doherty Dunloy
16 James Mc Keague Dunloy
17 Sean Dowds Dunloy
18 Paudie Shivers Dunloy
19 Kevin Mc Keague Dunloy
20 Kevin Molly Dunloy
21 Gareth Magee Dunloy
22 Johnny Mc Intosh Glenariff
23 Randal Mc Donnell Glenariff
24 Seamus Mc Donnell Glenariff
25 Dessie Mc Clean       Gortnamona
26 Seamus Dobbin Loughgiel
27 James Campbell Loughgiel
28 Liam Mc Killop Loughgiel
29 Tony Mc Closkey Loughgiel
30 Ciaran Mc Kinley Loughgiel
31 Michael Hasson Rasharkin
32 Eoghan O Neill Rossa
33 Mark Devlin Rossa
34 Conor Rocks Rossa
35 Michael Armstrong Rossa
36 Chris Mc Guinness Rossa
37 John Kerr Rossa
38 Mathew Devlin Rossa
39 Stephen Shannon Rossa
40 Johnny Mc Guinness Rossa
41 Sean Mc Areavey St Galls
42 Barry Mc Fall St Johns
43 Simon Mc Corry St Johns
44 Colm Mc Fall St Johns
45 Kevin Sheerin Tir Na nOg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 18, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
First questions Dinny should ask when he's considering players

Does he play week in week out for his clubs first team?

If yes move on to question 2. If the answer is no then respect the fact that the clubs might have a better perspective on where that player is at and don't consider him.

Does he perform at a good level for his club when he plays?

If yes then he's worth considering.


Dinny has included one lad from Dunloy who never started any of our championship matches this year but had a storming performance in the U21 championship final. I presume thats why he has been included...on one match  :-\. That is wile. Let the lad bed in and prove his ability to make the starting 15 week in week out for his club first for christs sake before you include him in ANY considerations for a County panel

Darren Quinn all over again

I'll let the rest of youse talk about the others
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 18, 2009, 04:45:30 PM
Paddy McNaughton, still a minor? Why would he be considered. Mick McCambridge might not want to hurl county, surprised if he went. Donal McNaughton would be a good addition.

On some of the others do you think he watched underage games a few years ago, wrote their names in a log book to call on them if he ever came back? I'd imagine that Dick would have picked alot of those players as I doubt Dinny could have picked some of those names out

No Joe Cooney is a surprise!!

All those Rossa boys need regular senior hurling over the next year or two before they should be considered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2009, 07:16:06 PM
 we have league match on Sunday so i doubt anyone from Glenariff our Naomh Gall will be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2009, 01:26:51 PM
Skull

Would have to agree with you, IMO if a player is not holding down a regular senior slot with his club then there is something wrong if he is selected for even a trial. What is the point in doing this with a playing who has no idea yet what it takes at senior club level never mind inter county.

Pure madness again from him. I have a fair idea who you are refering to skull and i would also say there is another name in there that would be questionable on grounds of experience as well at this level.

Serous de ja vous going on here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 19, 2009, 01:44:06 PM
And Brendy Herron is definitely away (in as much as Hoganstand is definite):

"Herron switching codes

Dinny Cahill
19 November 2009


New Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has suffered an early setback with the news that Brendan Herron is set to declare for Liam Bradley's footballers next year.

Herron, who had been involved with the hurlers last year, attended a recent football trial match against a Derry selection and it's believed he will be included in the county's McKenna Cup squad.

According to the Irish News, Herron is one of at least four players who didn't feature in last year's championship who are set to commit to the football squad in 2010. Randalstown's Micheal Magill and Rasharkin clubman Paul Doherty, who were both abroad last summer, are set to rejoin Bradley's squad, as is former captain Sean Kelly.

Kelly quit the squad following Antrim's 2008 Ulster SFC defeat to Cavan. He missed the team's subsequent Tommy Murphy Cup success and wasn't involved last season."



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2009, 02:03:18 PM
In all fairness was never a massive fan had all the athletic ability but didnt seem to have the hurling brain to go with it, too often first thought was to get the ball on the stick and run with it, when should have been a fast delivery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
For clarification NAG1. Don't want to be misinterpreted

My comments are not meant to be a dig at the players who have been selected. The person I'm referring to btw, I hope, if he keeps learning his craft will be a massive player for us in years to come as I have no doubts about his drive as well as his character. But if youre not making the clubs starting 15, you still have to develop your game there before being thrust into a county set-up (just because you possess enthusiasm and potential). That should be a no brainer. One step at a time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 19, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
Hppy days - Sean Kelly back with the footballers.

I'd agree about Herron - however our county team do seem to lack athleticism and he added that so I think he was a player very worthy of his place because of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 19, 2009, 10:00:32 PM
I have to disagree with some of you about Brendan Herron, I thought he was close to Antrims best player last year ( not a great accolade I know). He was one of the few who seemed to have grown into county hurling and seemed comfortable in competition, he was also good for a point or two from play from midfield in most matches and given Antrims severe lack of scoring power a few points from midfield or further back was badly needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 19, 2009, 11:16:48 PM
I agree I think brendan herron was a good asset to Antrim Hurling, between Dublin footballers electing to play hurling and vice versa in Antrim you have to wonder which way each county is going, and is it the sport or the glory that attracts players.

Another thing, I see our Chairperson is mooting the possibilty of moving the Club finals from Paddys day. I completely disagree, St Patricks day is the pinnacle of the club calender, club players get shafted at every turn, train all year to play their most important games in sodden fields on cold days. Croke Park on Paddys day is the celebration of club competition, the grassroots of our association on our unique 'Irish' day of the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2009, 11:38:30 PM
gives the county team a good run in the NHL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 20, 2009, 08:27:42 AM
Though we have a boyo managing now that saw the NHL as a total distraction in his last tenure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 20, 2009, 08:31:17 AM
I can see his point too, not ideal having half your team not available for 3/4 matches in NHL, but St Patricks day finals are special, its a bank holiday and its not almost instinctive that GAA men organise their day around the finals. There is no way any other date in the year would generate the same interest in the Club Finals.

Personally I think the GAA should be looking to increase the games played on that date to include poss the Junior or intermediate final. Like I said, everything else about the club scene is shoehorned in at whatever date suits county teams, surely this one time of the year club can take perference.

At the end of the day Antrim have only had teams competing in the AI final on 7 occassions in history, not exactly happening every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 20, 2009, 09:53:58 AM
Develop a county team with less reliance on the top 3 teams would be the best way to go. A few men down is an opertunity for others to shine

At least he's bound to be sympathetic to the complaints clubs have had about playing without county players in league matches  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 20, 2009, 11:56:45 PM
Still no word as to whether Dinny would try and coax Liam Watson back to the hurlers?  Wasn't named on the trial squad but I would have been very surprised if he was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2009, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: gelvis on November 20, 2009, 11:56:45 PM
Still no word as to whether Dinny would try and coax Liam Watson back to the hurlers?  Wasn't named on the trial squad but I would have been very surprised if he was.

playing Garrison sports for a team in West Belfast called Donegal Celtic (he'd naturally want to catch it :D) Liam will not bother I'd imagine, he's had a few injuries over the last few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 21, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 21, 2009, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: gelvis on November 20, 2009, 11:56:45 PM
Still no word as to whether Dinny would try and coax Liam Watson back to the hurlers?  Wasn't named on the trial squad but I would have been very surprised if he was.

playing Garrison sports for a team in West Belfast called Donegal Celtic (he'd naturally want to catch it :D) Liam will not bother I'd imagine, he's had a few injuries over the last few years

That aul Black and Tan ball has ruined many a reputation!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2009, 03:54:38 PM
As per the mcgourty brothers (2 not 3) in the football I think the hurlers would be better off without Liam Watson.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 07:50:23 PM
Did Liam Watson appear for Loughgiel this year at all? Personally I would like to see Barney McAuley and DD Quinn back in the county panel but who knows if that will ever happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
i doubt DD will come back now he'd be downthe pecking order now but Dinny likes the Loughgiel lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2009, 06:01:41 PM
Goalscoring exploits from Milltown today I hear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2009, 07:19:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 22, 2009, 06:01:41 PM
Goalscoring exploits from Milltown today I hear?

Just the two, only played up front in the second half, was trying to stop Tosh in the first half, still a cracker (tosh, not me)

what a fooking day, the wind and rain was mad. hurling great fooking love it.

Ya's had the full team out!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2009, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Milltown coming good for the AI semi......

i might just make it Hardstation :D, would cause a split maybe but sure......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2009, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Milltown coming good for the AI semi......

The goals he got were very soft I heard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2009, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 22, 2009, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Milltown coming good for the AI semi......

The goals he got were very soft I heard

Champions!!! sure the pub team we sent down had a good laugh, Clapped ya's into the club room before the tea and sarnies

was your fullback who was marking the aul man who's only 5" 2 ;D

Ray Matthews even had the cheek to book me, well it was a little slap.

hope the  leagues stay the same, Glenariff should beat Ballycastle and they come down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2009, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 22, 2009, 08:40:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 08:29:16 PM
Milltown coming good for the AI semi......

The goals he got were very soft I heard
They're never soft. I heard he was like John Mullane, bouncing about and popping up everywhere. When the chance came, he made no mistake. 5' 2" and the heart of a lion. Was Dinny watching?

John Mullane is tee total i believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2009, 10:41:55 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

went to bed early and had just the two glasses  ;)

its all about the preparation, load of drink, late nights. morning time a big greasy fry up followed by loads of caffine drinks.

wont be able to walk proper for a week, but sure....

On the way down Hardstation, Bap was recalling that day you did nets. he has a massive grudge against ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 22, 2009, 10:43:27 PM
He waved to me the other day, so not too much of a grudge.

but after i brought the memory back today :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 25, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
Any word on if any of the players are not going to the trials and has Milltown be added to the list after the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 25, 2009, 11:35:26 AM
Dont see why anyone wouldnt go and give it a crack. Even those that really could do with a year or two in senior hurling first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 25, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
Any word on if any of the players are not going to the trials and has Milltown be added to the list after the weekend?

i might not go as i'm still fooked. but might be intertested in having his 'trial' team play ours in a non County get together 'trial' match ;)

i'm more interested in the over 40 team but it seems it has fallen to the wayside. i believe you can play for them when your 39?? only in Ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 25, 2009, 05:00:30 PM
Was involved in the over 40s myself, could've been great but the CB didn't want to know, Croke didn't want to know, players who said they were up for it then didnt show up half the time. Surprising how the bogballers have done in comparison. In the end the rest of us just gave up.
Have my nice new Antrim shorts n socks in the house, worn twice, any big arsed county hopefuls out there can have them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
I'll speak to our big Paddy, colonel can speak to theirs ...see if they might be interested  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 25, 2009, 05:21:21 PM
im not sure any of our players a real big hole

I believe the over 40's is run like a johnnies underage team, not fussy if your eligible or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 25, 2009, 08:21:11 PM
it might make a comback with all this recreational hurling going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 08:22:31 PM
colonel, is Jackie Carson looking after J'stown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 25, 2009, 09:24:02 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 25, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
Any word on if any of the players are not going to the trials and has Milltown be added to the list after the weekend?

i might not go as i'm still fooked. but might be intertested in having his 'trial' team play ours in a non County get together 'trial' match ;)

i'm more interested in the over 40 team but it seems it has fallen to the wayside. i believe you can play for them when your 39?? only in Ireland

If your 40th birthday is in that calendar year you can play. Same way you can play under 16 even if you're 16, if your 16th birthday is in that calendar year.

Disappointed that neither the hurlers nor footballers have approached me yet. For the over 40s, not the under 16s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 25, 2009, 10:31:36 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 08:22:31 PM
colonel, is Jackie Carson looking after J'stown?
Aye he is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 26, 2009, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz

The truth's out now - I'd a notion you were a ringer that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz

Was there not a few Down men on the last Antrim over 40's hurling team?

Wouldn't be eligible myself though, another few years to wait  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 26, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz

Was there not a few Down men on the last Antrim over 40's hurling team?

Wouldn't be eligible myself though, another few years to wait  ;D

Nobody would ever guess you're a ringer though looking at ye :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 26, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz

Was there not a few Down men on the last Antrim over 40's hurling team?

Wouldn't be eligible myself though, another few years to wait  ;D

Nobody would ever guess you're a ringer though looking at ye :)

says the follically challenged one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on November 26, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 26, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 26, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 25, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
aye its a bit of a shame that the county board couldn't reprise the thing. played against them (the oldies) once while i  moonlighted for the BT interfirms team. some good players and a bit of spring in their step.

the football over 40's has went from strength to strength. one of our players has captained the Ireland team at the internationls here and in Oz

Was there not a few Down men on the last Antrim over 40's hurling team?

Wouldn't be eligible myself though, another few years to wait  ;D

Nobody would ever guess you're a ringer though looking at ye :)

says the follically challenged one

I don't even have a BT PHONE!!

Besides it was a bit of craic. we played the Kilkenny team that year in the All Ireland semi's at Milltown, the team had Richie Power playing for them. to say the stuffed us is an understatement. though we (they) did score a point in the seconf half :D and we won the toss
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 27, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
Tom Kinney and Stevie Fullerton from Newry Shamrocks were on the team, Stevies originally from Belfast and Tom would bring his stick and boots to the All Ireland in case he would get the chance of a game :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 30, 2009, 05:16:06 PM
Hearing rumours that the league structures are going to be changed again.  10 teams per division as Dinny wants as many of his county panel playing Div 1 hurling but the changes go right through all leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 30, 2009, 06:38:38 PM
What's Dinny got to do with it? That proposal will have to come from a club and be voted in by the rest of the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 30, 2009, 06:40:12 PM
How much of this is down to St Johns getting relegated. To be fair its not ideal only 5 antrim teams in Div 1, but it works well, games are competitive and Div 2 seemed equally as competitive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 30, 2009, 06:44:48 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 30, 2009, 06:40:12 PM
How much of this is down to St Johns getting relegated. To be fair its not ideal only 5 antrim teams in Div 1, but it works well, games are competitive and Div 2 seemed equally as competitive

Quite a bit I would have thought, I would be surprised if they are not in Div 1 next year, whatever format it takes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 30, 2009, 06:54:12 PM
Was told that there are no proposals concerning either football or hurling leagues that made it onto the list for convention next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on November 30, 2009, 07:06:49 PM
will they change? The clubs who want a change wont get the support from clubs they have shit on in the past.

Ballycastle will come down next year, maybe and it will change then :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Does anyone know if the Rossa minor game went ahead yesterday and if so what the score was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2009, 09:24:20 PM
Pitch unplayable I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 01, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: shambo on November 30, 2009, 07:06:49 PM
will they change? The clubs who want a change wont get the support from clubs they have shit on in the past.

Ballycastle will come down next year, maybe and it will change then :P

In Antrim has the CCC (or whatever they're called) not got the power to table a motion at the convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on December 01, 2009, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 30, 2009, 08:57:15 PM
Does anyone know if the Rossa minor game went ahead yesterday and if so what the score was?

the o'donnovan rossa match will be played on the 13th of december, as pitch was unplayable there last sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on December 02, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
I can't see the leagues being changed this year with Div 2 unfinished. If they decided to put 2 teams up to Div 1 thered be some row over who joins Oisins.

But Div 4A and 4B could be amalgamated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2009, 09:08:33 PM
Are league structures really rocket science that we can't have a format that can be used year on year. If teams need to be forced to fulfill their fixtures by the means of sanctions then so be it. I know it is an amateur association and games get canned due to bad pitches etc but how many other sports change the league format every year to suit a few teams instead of forcing the teams to fall into line with the structures in place. Or is that an overly simplistic view?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 04, 2009, 09:38:25 PM
I have always liked the eight team leagues, keeps them competitive. Not too much between the teams although there will always be a winer and a team relegated. Stops Div 1 becoming a closed shop as well. I think relegation is a good thing for the big clubs, makes them take a long hard look at themselves. In the mid nineties Loughgiel were down in division 2 when it was eight team leagues, I have very happy memories of Armoy turning them over in Loughgiel at the time. Loghgiel didnt like it tok a long hard look at the underage structures and started to win a load of underage stuff from 98-99 onwards. I know it has not brought Loughgiel a championship but they have produced a lot of very good hurlers over the last 10-15 years and really should have one at least one of the six finals in a row they made it to. If Div 1 is put up to 12 or 14 teams then some of the middle ranking clubs likeSt Johns or Ballycastle can cruise along and maintain the position in Division 1 without showing a lot of ambition and hope to catch someone in the championship on an off day. If/when they get relegated they realise they have to put in some proper work to restore their club back to where ( they think )it belongs.
Lower down the food chain it makes for more intresting and closer matches as well which normally helps maintain intrest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on December 04, 2009, 09:53:14 PM
Leagues wont be changed, the Johnnies will be figting it out with Rossa next year to see who goes up. Gorts and Galls will fall short but leagues will be competitive.

Who'll drop from thefirst division? Cushendall wont be dropping but they don't seem to have the quality coming through as they had years ago. They have not been competitive at underage level for a while.

Will there be a team that will dominate for a while or will there be a better spread of senior championships?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 04, 2009, 09:58:11 PM
Did Cushendall not win the minor championship last year? They were certainly in the final against Loughgiel and drew the first day, I was at it. Paddy McNaughten was a minor this year, he is a good player for a young fella. I think Cushendall will be there for a year or two yet, McManus and Graffin were both U-21 this year for a start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 04, 2009, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on December 04, 2009, 09:58:11 PM
Did Cushendall not win the minor championship last year? They were certainly in the final against Loughgiel and drew the first day, I was at it. Paddy McNaughten was a minor this year, he is a good player for a young fella. I think Cushendall will be there for a year or two yet, McManus and Graffin were both U-21 this year for a start.

Loughgile won it in 2007 and 2008, Cushendall had them well beat in Casement in 2007 but Loughgile came back well and got a goal deep into injury time and won the replay well in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2009, 10:15:45 PM
Its good winning underage championships but the main aim is to bring players through to senior. All it takes is 2-3 players from each underage team to keep you going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on December 04, 2009, 10:32:35 PM
Country teams usually bring more players through to senior. Belfast teams struggle in that department.

what Junior team will make the breakthrough? can Rasharkin improve on this years win? will Armoy come strong again?

Clooney Gaels failed badly this year and i thought they would be a force. St Pauls and Lamhs can they re-discover form?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
Cloughmills could & should improve as most of their older players wouldnt have played much underage hurling..now all their younger players have played for St Brendans and dont seem to be losing any more players to their neighbours :P. They had 3 players on the county minor team. Having their own pitch now gives them a base that they never had. How well they do depends on their commitment & ambition. Its up to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on December 06, 2009, 04:07:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2009, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on December 04, 2009, 09:58:11 PM
Did Cushendall not win the minor championship last year? They were certainly in the final against Loughgiel and drew the first day, I was at it. Paddy McNaughten was a minor this year, he is a good player for a young fella. I think Cushendall will be there for a year or two yet, McManus and Graffin were both U-21 this year for a start.

Loughgile won it in 2007 and 2008, Cushendall had them well beat in Casement in 2007 but Loughgile came back well and got a goal deep into injury time and won the replay well in Ballycastle.
The years slip by so quickly now its no longer funny >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2009, 11:22:15 AM
convention report on the county site. Interesting read.

also College Allstars are up on the www.ulstercollegesgaa.org site. big shock is no allstar for Ciaran Clarke from CPC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 08, 2009, 12:43:37 PM
What would be the reason for that? Was he sent off at anytime during the season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Uladhabu on December 08, 2009, 03:08:47 PM
Jim Nelson Taking the Shamrocks job!!!!! Backward step IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 08, 2009, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 08, 2009, 11:22:15 AM
convention report on the county site. Interesting read.

also College Allstars are up on the www.ulstercollegesgaa.org site. big shock is no allstar for Ciaran Clarke from CPC

Serious? The All Stars selections have always been a bit of a joke, but if he was excluded it would make a total mockery of them. Are there any extenuating circumstances?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on December 08, 2009, 03:21:38 PM
aye its a joke clarkey didnt get one, man of the match in the mageen final with 1-8 or 1-9 or somethin like that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
It's all based on trials though. If you're not there or you have a bad day you wouldn't get one.

Unless that's changed since I left school but hadn't heard anything to suggest it had...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2009, 03:48:54 PM
i was at a trial one year, the way it works is that there will always be a few certs and they will play about 15 mins the first day because they are sure to be in the second trial. But they will play the second one also, but for the certs its more about where they get selected, not if.

We had two players for the dall selected a couple of years ago who played in the full forward line in the first trial, thought they wouldnt get one there so they ended up in the full back line. Half the time the selectors just chatted to each other, didnt watch and drank tea in the freezing cold. the whole process is balls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on December 08, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
As mentioned earlier, its all about how you play on the days of the trials which is a bit of a joke method of selecting the team.  Players can even turn up from schools that dont enter the colleges competitions, well they used to. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 08, 2009, 10:31:54 PM
Flawed system alright but nobody is going to get to see all the college matches and so they need to have trails, players from colleges that don't enter the competition deserve a chance as well, god knows they probaly have little else to aspire to in hurking ambitions. Are these awards given much credit in clubs

Also, is Jim Nelson managing Loughgiel, surprised is the Shamrocks went for an outsider, always thought Sean Paul McKillop would someday manage them, seemed to play the game with a fair degree of intelligence,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on December 09, 2009, 08:50:42 AM
Ciaran Clarke's omission from the colleges hurling all-stars defies belief - he has taken the Cross and Passion to two Mageean successes in a row and to last year's All-Ireland success. Four All-Stars from St Mary's, three from Cross and Passion (who hammered St Marys in the Mageean final), two form St Louis/Loughgiel and two from St Pat's Armagh - think if you look at the selection panel you'll understand how this came about. Partiality/club/school loyalties shouldn't come into the equation, but unfortunately this appears to have been a key factor in selecting this year's team. Also, don't refer to these all-stars as a "team", it's quite the opposite and recognises individual performance at a couple of trials, which are are a complete nonsense.  In effect the trials are about individuals trying to outdo one another in the middle third of the pitch and have nothing to do with a team ethos.  Call them individual awards instead. Ballycastle CPC was by far the best team in colleges competition this year and only had 3 representatives on this selection and the most special talent of all, Ciaran Clarke, was overlooked. A complete and utter joke!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 09, 2009, 09:03:54 AM
Seems to have been a bit of an obvious ommission....but in the grand scheme of things it hardly matters in the long run. Let the boy just get on with his hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
Lads in all honesty what would JM have to offer loughgiel at this stage and vice versa (maybe scratch the vice versa bit there actually)

Great coach 15-20 years ago, I could understand it if they had gone for an outsider 5-6 years ago when they were at the height of their powers but IMO they are on a downward curve now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 09, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 09, 2009, 09:03:54 AM
Seems to have been a bit of an obvious ommission....but in the grand scheme of things it hardly matters in the long run. Let the boy just get on with his hurling.

Exactly right, joke of an awards scheme as the type of hurlers who sometimes impress in friendly/trial games etc hide when the real thing is on.

I'm sure young Clarke will look back on his hurling career and not give it a second glance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 09, 2009, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
Lads in all honesty what would JM have to offer loughgiel at this stage and vice versa (maybe scratch the vice versa bit there actually)

Great coach 15-20 years ago, I could understand it if they had gone for an outsider 5-6 years ago when they were at the height of their powers but IMO they are on a downward curve now.

Also heard they approached a Derry man first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Winnie Peg on December 09, 2009, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on December 09, 2009, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
Lads in all honesty what would JM have to offer loughgiel at this stage and vice versa (maybe scratch the vice versa bit there actually)

Great coach 15-20 years ago, I could understand it if they had gone for an outsider 5-6 years ago when they were at the height of their powers but IMO they are on a downward curve now.

Also heard they approached a Derry man first.

They were scraping the barrel there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2009, 12:17:33 PM
Haha who would that have been then?

Sure did they not have a Derry man running the show down there for the last few years anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on December 09, 2009, 07:54:03 PM
aye they did,  and a footballer. Bellaghy man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 09, 2009, 09:17:41 PM
no the man they asked used to manage the lynchs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on December 09, 2009, 10:48:37 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on December 09, 2009, 09:17:41 PM
no the man they asked used to manage the lynchs.

no they had a Bellaghy man. played full forward. teacher in Ballycastle he coached them for 3/4 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on December 09, 2009, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2009, 12:17:33 PM
Haha who would that have been then?

Sure did they not have a Derry man running the show down there for the last few years anyway?

was this post HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 10, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2009, 11:10:16 PM
Right. I'm confused.

As far as I can see.......

ha ha is saying that Loughiel asked an ex Dungiven manager before they asked Jim Nelson.

Thats exactly what im saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 10, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Shambo - Joe Cassidy ran the show in Loughgeil for a couple of years - he is from Bellaghy. End of that chapter.

The Shamrocks approached a Derry man THIS YEAR who used to manage Dungiven. End of that chapter.


Who is the Derry man? Big Show?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2009, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 10, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Shambo - Joe Cassidy ran the show in Loughgeil for a couple of years - he is from Bellaghy. End of that chapter.

The Shamrocks approached a Derry man THIS YEAR who used to manage Dungiven. End of that chapter.


Who is the Derry man? Big Show?
You would think they could muster up an experienced ex clubman with the clout to whip them into shape. Their Championship woes has them clutching at straws it seems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 10, 2009, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 10, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Shambo - Joe Cassidy ran the show in Loughgeil for a couple of years - he is from Bellaghy. End of that chapter.

The Shamrocks approached a Derry man THIS YEAR who used to manage Dungiven. End of that chapter.


Who is the Derry man? Big Show?

Yip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 11, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2009, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 10, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Shambo - Joe Cassidy ran the show in Loughgeil for a couple of years - he is from Bellaghy. End of that chapter.

The Shamrocks approached a Derry man THIS YEAR who used to manage Dungiven. End of that chapter.


Who is the Derry man? Big Show?
You would think they could muster up an experienced ex clubman with the clout to whip them into shape. Their Championship woes has them clutching at straws it seems.

Unfortunately, they may have been there and done that a couple of times.

Though I would get the first flight out of the country if they won the county championship (and maybe stay away til they get beat in the Ulster/All Ireland series) I hope Loughgeil get the breakthrough soon. Shared success can only be a good thing.

On the subject of the Bodies any word on whether Watson is linking up with Antrim and Dinny this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2009, 11:36:51 AM
I would say Dinny is preparing the cotton wool as we speak and the memo will be sent out to all county referees!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 11, 2009, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 11, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2009, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 10, 2009, 11:56:53 AM
Shambo - Joe Cassidy ran the show in Loughgeil for a couple of years - he is from Bellaghy. End of that chapter.

The Shamrocks approached a Derry man THIS YEAR who used to manage Dungiven. End of that chapter.


Who is the Derry man? Big Show?
You would think they could muster up an experienced ex clubman with the clout to whip them into shape. Their Championship woes has them clutching at straws it seems.

Unfortunately, they may have been there and done that a couple of times.

Though I would get the first flight out of the country if they won the county championship (and maybe stay away til they get beat in the Ulster/All Ireland series) I hope Loughgeil get the breakthrough soon. Shared success can only be a good thing.On the subject of the Bodies any word on whether Watson is linking up with Antrim and Dinny this year?

never in my life time would I want that to happen. shocker there Glensman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
I'm back :D

that was wild, my account seemed to be hacked into with my email adress changed and i could not get on the bloody board. not much going on anyway.

all clubs finished up for the winter (well some clubs till going ;)) so things are quiet. anyword on the leagues changing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 14, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
I'm back :D

that was wild, my account seemed to be hacked into with my email adress changed and i could not get on the bloody board. not much going on anyway.

all clubs finished up for the winter (well some clubs till going ;)) so things are quiet. anyword on the leagues changing?

Imposter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 09:51:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 14, 2009, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
I'm back :D

that was wild, my account seemed to be hacked into with my email adress changed and i could not get on the bloody board. not much going on anyway.

all clubs finished up for the winter (well some clubs till going ;)) so things are quiet. anyword on the leagues changing?

Imposter

as if, not one fecker asked about me >:( 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 14, 2009, 09:52:28 PM
We thought you were drying out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 14, 2009, 09:52:28 PM
We thought you were drying out

i did have a few drinks.

(http://comps.fotosearch.com/bigcomps/IDX/IDX065/424093.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 14, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
No relation of mine, folks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 14, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
No relation of mine, folks.

couldn't use my old one as its still active. Sam showed me the way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2009, 10:27:10 PM
So is that a real appointment with Jim Nelson at Loughgeil?


any other appointments for the new season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 15, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
Free the Milltown Row 1.

Who would have thought it - Milltown Row with only 5 posts to his name? All that previous wit, insight, analysis - all for nothing lol.

Are you still eligible to ahem "turn out" for BT under the new pseudonym though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 15, 2009, 01:13:37 PM
Any early reports on how the trials and training sessions have gone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 16, 2009, 03:20:15 PM
We're going to have to move over to the same system that pertains in other sports. The inter-county GPA players should be regarded in the same light as those who have central contracts in other sports, i.e. they are regarded as Antrim players [or whatever] & the clubs just get on with it, in their absence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2009, 04:51:59 PM
I could not disagree with you two more. What ever happened to club before county? It is county boards and management who put these massive restrictions on county players playing club matches in the summer months. If they relaxed those restrictions and didn't think they were the only game in town at this time of year then club games (and by osmosis, the county game) would improve quality wise. Every county player in Dunloy WANTS to play for his club and I'm sure the rest of the panel do as well. What incentive is their (other than financial  :-\) that would make players accept central contracts?

Some of you must have a short memory or must never of have experienced the bullshit that was non starred hurling. Hurling without the right intensity and passion is terrible to watch and that was non starred hurling. That means your best 15 against their best 15. The players, management and the supporters(who voted with their feet) all smelt the bullshit and the game suffered. Am I wrong in saying that? Is this what you think club hurling should be about during the summer months because I don't? Playing games for the sake of it is not where hurling thrives. If you want that go and join a 5 a side team. Leagues should be respected and that means that the clubs finest 15 representing them.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 16, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Have to disagree, I think we need a system whereby clubs get access to their strongest teams as often as possible.  Its not about the strong clubs winning the leagues, its about generating serious interest in our bread and butter games. That's been absent for a number of years, who really wants to see Dunloy with 5 players missing play Cushendall with 8 missing, what is the that going to tell supporters about Championship.

When we get to the level where our leagues are strong and we have serious strength in depth then we can discuss County players only playing County Hurling. County teams have approx 5 NHL games, 2 UHC and 2 LHC, that's 9 weekends surely the leagues can be worked around that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 16, 2009, 05:15:25 PM
in the summer months they should allow the club players to play league games on saturday nights, if they want they can have sessions on the sunday with the county with county games the following sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 16, 2009, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on December 16, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Have to disagree, I think we need a system whereby clubs get access to their strongest teams as often as possible.  Its not about the strong clubs winning the leagues, its about generating serious interest in our bread and butter games. That's been absent for a number of years, who really wants to see Dunloy with 5 players missing play Cushendall with 8 missing, what is the that going to tell supporters about Championship.

When we get to the level where our leagues are strong and we have serious strength in depth then we can discuss County players only playing County Hurling. County teams have approx 5 NHL games, 2 UHC and 2 LHC, that's 9 weekends surely the leagues can be worked around that

Effectively 18 weekends if the 13 day rule for county teams is enforced. Any way, there is nothing that sharpens up a hurler like matches (basic Kilkenny training). The county manager should be pushing for regular club gamesas it,s a good indicator of form players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
It is pretty clear from "Admin" on the antrim website that this 10 day rule is staying in place...so much for allowing proper debate  >:( and it is ALL THE CLUBS FAULT FOR FIXTURE SHORTAGES IN THE SUMMER AS THEY WON'T PLAY MATCHES WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS

He actually tried to tell me, in as insulting a way possible, that the county didn't train Friday/Sat and Sunday morning before Sunday League Games in the last year of Dinny's reign after the clubs had had enough of these non starred leagues for the prevous years. Thats the sort of revisionist authoritarian thinking we have at play up in Casement. Totally unwilling to even debate anything that might go against their thinking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on December 16, 2009, 06:20:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 16, 2009, 06:06:34 PM
It is pretty clear from "Admin" on the antrim website that this 10 day rule is staying in place...so much for allowing proper debate  >:( and it is ALL THE CLUBS FAULT FOR FIXTURE SHORTAGES IN THE SUMMER AS THEY WON'T PLAY MATCHES WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS

He actually tried to tell me, in as insulting a way possible, that the county didn't train Friday/Sat and Sunday morning before Sunday League Games in the last year of Dinny's reign after the clubs had had enough of these non starred leagues for the prevous years. Thats the sort of revisionist authoritarian thinking we have at play up in Casement. Totally unwilling to even debate anything that might go against their thinking.

Surely Dinny will have learned from his last stint that the cotton wool treatment does not work. Hurling is all about match speed and intensity, no drill can replicate this like a compeditive match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
having played in the Non Starred games when Dinny was in charge i found it annoying that smaller clubs (like ourselves) had players that were not available. even the subs/panel players were unavailable and warmed the bench all year without playing a match!!

lets crack on this year, lets improve the local game. Rossa seemed to be turning the corner again and will be a force soon, good juveniles coming through St Johns and Gorts. Dunloy proving they have not gone away and Loughgiel will always be there. Ballycastle need to turn some of that young talent into stars and we should have a vibrant club scene.

By all accounts the players enjoyed the sessions with Dinny and he brought on a lot of players, unlucky in two q'finals but improvements had been made. The third year the ARSE fell out of it and we were left to pick up the pieces.

Lets wait and see what Dinny has in store first before we berate him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 16, 2009, 08:26:52 PM
Regarding the leagues we have the same conversations all the time. How we need to play competitive matches on a regular basis. To improve the quality of the leagues everybody has to take responsibility.Maybe I'm living in a dream world but here goes.....
1. County Manager - The problem with Dinny when he was his manager previously was that due to his travelling that the players trained Tues, Fri, Sat & Sunday Morning. This meant the players were very rarely seen by the clubs. The Antrim team should only train Tues & Thurs, & either Sat or Sunday. If there is a club match on Sunday....do a light training with County on Sat. 3 Days a weeks is plenty...quality not quantity.  Don't pressure players to miss a game. Don't need wrapped in Cotton Wool

2. County Players - Treat these games seriously.  It's an honour  to play for your club..don't treat it as an inconvience to your county season. Use it as a way to get into good form & stay sharp. Supporters come to see you, young players look up to you. Set an example.

3. Clubs - If you know you're not going to have a match for 2/3 weeks during the summer...contact one of the other teams in the league & arrange a match for a suitable date.(Bring forward a match arranged for Oct/Nov). There is only 2 dual clubs in Div 1...nothing stopping you playing when there is a football weekend. No pathetic excuses any more for calling matches off. Make sure games are treated properly (see below).  Better matches =better crowds=better revenue for clubs

4Club Managers/Players. - Take the league seriously. Winning is a good habit. Blood youngsters but blood them sensibly, not in a team there just to make up the numbers/or going through the motions to fulfil fixtures. If Dinny seen a match on a Sunday where his players were messing about/hungover playing in a glorifed Challenge match could you blame him for stopping county players play for their clubs. Players stay off the drink the night before a match..it's only one night.

5. Finally the County Board. They always say that the clubs want to play with their county players. The County Board say this may not be possible during the summer.  You always hear from the GAA/ County Boards that the club is the most  Important thing...which is bullshit. The County Board want their county teams to do well & their centre of excellence to be build.  If they had that they would be delighted.  Dr John has his legacy( Footballers in Ulster Final/ Dunsilly/ Hurlers in Leinster).In his convention report he said we need to fundraise..they'll need the clubs for this. There is no long term plan. They need to see that players need to play regular matches.  People won't go to watch matches if Cushendall /Dunloy play Loughgiel/Ballycastle minus county players.  Better quality matches result in better quality hurlers for our county team.

The league structures are grand, I understand the CCC have a near impossible job re fixtures. 8 team division's are good. Milltown..you want 2 up 2 down..propose this at your Club AGM...get it passed, bring it to the Convention.  What about getting a sponsor for the leagues. Prize Money for the winners..that could into the players fund..weekend away for the players. Not just Division 1 either.

Rant over  :P  :P Constructive Criticism I think??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2009, 10:02:33 PM
I think so too. Try that post on Antrim Admin though two hands and you'll get a very different response. Prepare to be ridiculed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2009, 10:34:35 PM
2 up 2 down makes the leagues competitive, throw in play offs so at the business end of things we will have mini championship games. this will give club players reasons to train right to the end of the year.

our AGM is next week (i think) so i'll ask again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 17, 2009, 10:08:58 AM
Lads,
I think we are all after the same thing here:
Competitive clubs structures with all players available as often as possible
Good training structures for our county teams so they can be successful
Increased competition for the senior championship

Two threads to makes these happen, clubs being realistic and putting more effort into their underage structures and devloping a better player long term, not this short termism of winning u12 u14 u16's and then nothing (ala St Johns). Clubs also committing to playing their games at the right time of the year during the summer and not looking for excuses to postpone games for stupid non reasons.

Secondly the county set up have to realise that without a competitive club system we will slip further behind in the all Ireland scene. So it is their responsibility to fix the games for the clubs at times when the clubs will be able to play them, they wont over load the players with ridiculous training schedules as skull pointed out (It was simple fact that the players trained Friday Saturday Sunday last time around anyone who claims anything else is a liar). They will set in stone the league structures so that there is no debate at the end of each season as to what is going to happen re promotion relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 17, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
someone posted on county site about some of the suggestions here. Skull you seem to have classes as the clown!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
Happy New Year lads

What the story with the Antrim set up at the minute are the still trailing or is there a more permanent squad put together for training purposes yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 05, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
Happy New Year lads

What the story with the Antrim set up at the minute are the still trailing or is there a more permanent squad put together for training purposes yet?
They had meeting on Friday night, trained on Saturday, done a series of fitness tests & then trained again on Sunday. Few boys have returned including Tosh & the prodigal son
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2010, 08:56:16 AM
If he didnt rate tosh the first time around why would he this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Tosh played the whole time under Dinny from what I remember. It was when S&W who decided to not use him. Martin Scullion also another one back. Few young faces in amongst the panel. Couple from clubs like Cloughmills and Armoy I think.

No Sean D who seems to have no intentions of playing. From our point of view having only 4 players suits us, but Karl might make a return yet. Apparently Johnny Campbell was giving it a go but the ankle doesn't seem right and might have ruled himself out for the meanwhile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
Think we all know the reasons behind the MS recall and it aint on performances in recent times!

Who was it put Tosh on in a match as a sub and took him off again NHL game in Casement if my memory serves me correctly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2010, 01:14:06 PM
Whats that reason NAG?

not sure about tosh in that league game?

Watson will still be committed to DC so will be interesting to see how this pans out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2010, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 06, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Tosh played the whole time under Dinny from what I remember. It was when S&W who decided to not use him. Martin Scullion also another one back. Few young faces in amongst the panel. Couple from clubs like Cloughmills and Armoy I think.

No Sean D who seems to have no intentions of playing. From our point of view having only 4 players suits us, but Karl might make a return yet. Apparently Johnny Campbell was giving it a go but the ankle doesn't seem right and might have ruled himself out for the meanwhile.

He didn't Colonel. He didn't play him so he packed it in and Dinny called round to his house to get him to come back, told him he was an integral part of his plans etc. then didn't play him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
fair do's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2010, 03:34:56 PM
Thanks Minder I thought i was losing my memory there for a while.
The reason being dinny's close relationship with loughgiel and one family there in particular. Not a major step forward really is it, or an injection of fresh blood?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 06, 2010, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 06, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
Think we all know the reasons behind the MS recall and it aint on performances in recent times!

Who was it put Tosh on in a match as a sub and took him off again NHL game in Casement if my memory serves me correctly?

That was Dinny..may have been against Laois. It was ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 07, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
Why is Sean Delargy not going back? Personality clash?
He is pretty committed, clean living and seems like a fella who loves his hurling.
He could have been a great asset (if played at corner back).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 07, 2010, 02:13:30 PM
I would say he wouldnt be a massive dinny fan after the last time around but could be wrong. Big committment again.

Wonder when AD can expect his recall  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 07, 2010, 04:35:18 PM
I think Sean thought it was having a negative effect on his own hurling for the club and was reaching standards that he has set for himself. Wants to get form back rather than just going along for the sake of it. I don't think he was a fan of all traveling for games such as walsh cup, NL etc.
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on January 15, 2010, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on January 15, 2010, 01:47:54 PM

Walsh Cup?


U.C.D. v Antrim   24/01/10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 08:53:40 PM
our game v  Tynagh/Abbey Duniry this Sunday has been rearranged for this Saturday. Dublin had been fixed to play in Parnell at the same time as we had been.


piss up and brewery spring to mind!!!

buses and lads working now have to be changed.

can't complain, just glad to be playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 18, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
Thats a disgrace MR to change an All Ireland semi final at this late stage! Hows preperations hoing? Good luck anyway. Hope yous do it!!

Championship draws on county website for 2010. St Johns playing Intermediate  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 18, 2010, 11:16:56 PM
Link to Championship Draws...

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2119

Looks like IHC & JHC could be re-drawn after mistakenly entering Cloughmills into IHC.

St. John's dropping into IHC is disappointing to see, but not unexpected if they are also playing Div 2 Hurling in 2010.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 11:22:59 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 18, 2010, 11:14:20 PM
Thats a disgrace MR to change an All Ireland semi final at this late stage! Hows preperations hoing? Good luck anyway. Hope yous do it!!

Championship draws on county website for 2010. St Johns playing Intermediate  ???

What??? i find that strange. we've taken a few beatings in the Senior Championship so dropped to intermediate. the Johnnies have been producing good young hurlers and with some proper management could have competed at senior. will be a kick in the teeth for the clubs entering intermediate this year.

preparation has been shite due to the weather but we've been at J'stown indoors and played queens yesterday.

will be a tough encounter, they are a good team and we need a good start. if its tight at half time i'll be happy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 18, 2010, 11:28:58 PM
U21 Hurling Championship

Rossa v Roddy McCorleys
???

who da fook? some Belfast teams mixed together?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 18, 2010, 11:16:56 PM
Link to Championship Draws...

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2119

Looks like IHC & JHC could be re-drawn after mistakenly entering Cloughmills into IHC.

St. John's dropping into IHC is disappointing to see, but not unexpected if they are also playing Div 2 Hurling in 2010.

before the redraw, watch and see how many teams drop out of intermedaite when they see the Johnnies in there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 19, 2010, 08:57:46 AM
well i suppose the Ulster and AI dimension of the intermediates and indeed juniors makes it a bit more enticing for teams to drop a level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 19, 2010, 09:07:37 AM
"Enticing"?! What the?!
Its not enticing for the intermediate teams who may have already started training with an eye on the trophy to see St Johns drop down.
Similarly if teams are now allowed to drop from intermediate to junior...?! Appears a mistake was made with Cloughmills and that should be quickly rectified and hopefully the redraw is made quickly and this mess sorted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 19, 2010, 09:34:06 AM
its obviously more enticing for St Johns to drop to intermediate and be in with a good shout of winning out in Antrim and Ulster before going into an AI semi-final rather than to be an also ran in the Antrim senior championship.

I wouldn't have thought anyone in Corrigan park gave a toss for the feelings of the other intermediate teams and why would they?

I don't know how antrim county board decide who's entitled to play in what championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 19, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
Seriously has anyone been watching St Johns in recent times, when its put to them they dont have it. The have one forward in BMcF and after thave nothing if the teams in that competiton get geared up properly I dont see it as a forgone conclusion anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 19, 2010, 10:01:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 18, 2010, 11:28:58 PM
U21 Hurling Championship

Rossa v Roddy McCorleys
???

They wear Tipp colours, their pitch is up the Shaw's Road before St. Paul's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 19, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
I think its a smart move from the johnnies. give's their young boys a year to get some hurling where they will have the chance to get set in their game and make strides.

will the johnnies be likely to send players to the south antrim team? they wont have the st galls players but you never know what way their players will react, or whatever their told by their club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 19, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
St Galls are as good as the Johnnies, so the Johnnies aren't doing anything wrong IMO. They have fallen away badly and when you consider the minor teams that they've had in the recent past they don't don't look as if they know how to bring players properly through to Senior level (possibly a wider issue in the city). I may be proved wrong in the coming years when this current batch of underage Johnnies come through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2010, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2010, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 18, 2010, 11:28:58 PM
U21 Hurling Championship

Rossa v Roddy McCorleys
???

who da fook? some Belfast teams mixed together?

An amalgamation team made up of Creggan, Tír na nÓg and (wait for it...) Cargin!   Roddy McCorley's have played Minor / U21 Championships before in previous years but those teams were a SW select.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
the difference between ourselves and the Johnnies is that we were always a yo-yo team in hurling. div 2 for a few years and div 1 for a few years. The Johnnies have been in Div one for years!!!

we entered senior championship when we were div 2. after getting stuffed by Loughgiel the comm. decided to drop us down. We also don't have great underage teams coming through at hurling. Johnnies have.

Rossa could have entered last year at intermediate level but they (like our footballers) have pride in staying at senior level.

i believe the johnnies have the hurlers (if attitude was right) to compete. there seems to be a poor attitude towards hurling in Belfast (bar Rossa) i know our juvenile management have put in great work but we aren't at a level when the likes of Karl stewart Aidso, and Mackers team when they won both hurling and football at all ages. thats the backbone of our current senior team.

the Johnnies never seem to bring that through. as for next year. Rossa i think (if they want) should progress to div 1. Div 2 will be really competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on January 19, 2010, 11:44:20 PM

But you have to treat teams in terms of where they are at now and not dependant on whether they have some good kids coming through or not.

Thats why i think teams of the same ability should be in the same championship whether thats SHC or IHC.

In Antrim who decides that?

Is it up to a club to decide for themselves then to be ratified by the Co board?

Now that St Johns are in Div2 and a poor enough showing in the championship last year, maybe they are right to go intermediate as getting into a winning habit is good for the club especially if they intend to blood a lot of young players into adult hurling.

The only thing I'd add, that maybe they should have tried harder to field reserve teams in the league the last few years as its a good stepping stone for youngsters out of minor in finding their feet with no real onus on winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2010, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on January 19, 2010, 11:44:20 PM

But you have to treat teams in terms of where they are at now and not dependant on whether they have some good kids coming through or not.

Thats why i think teams of the same ability should be in the same championship whether thats SHC or IHC.

In Antrim who decides that?

Is it up to a club to decide for themselves then to be ratified by the Co board?

Now that St Johns are in Div2 and a poor enough showing in the championship last year, maybe they are right to go intermediate as getting into a winning habit is good for the club especially if they intend to blood a lot of young players into adult hurling.

The only thing I'd add, that maybe they should have tried harder to field reserve teams in the league the last few years as its a good stepping stone for youngsters out of minor in finding their feet with no real onus on winning.

Clubs decide to play in whatever championship they want.

so by your logic Ballycran should have played intermediate championship (to get in the winning ways) in Down when they were relegated two seasons ago?

No Ballycran caught themselves on, regrouped and won the Championship a year later and were unlucky not to win an Ulster club.  Rossa should have done it also!! no again they regrouped and have won minor and under 21 hurling championships and will push on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 21, 2010, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2010, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2010, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: hatchetfield on January 19, 2010, 11:44:20 PM

But you have to treat teams in terms of where they are at now and not dependant on whether they have some good kids coming through or not.

Thats why i think teams of the same ability should be in the same championship whether thats SHC or IHC.

In Antrim who decides that?

Is it up to a club to decide for themselves then to be ratified by the Co board?

Now that St Johns are in Div2 and a poor enough showing in the championship last year, maybe they are right to go intermediate as getting into a winning habit is good for the club especially if they intend to blood a lot of young players into adult hurling.

The only thing I'd add, that maybe they should have tried harder to field reserve teams in the league the last few years as its a good stepping stone for youngsters out of minor in finding their feet with no real onus on winning.

Clubs decide to play in whatever championship they want.

so by your logic Ballycran should have played intermediate championship (to get in the winning ways) in Down when they were relegated two seasons ago?

No Ballycran caught themselves on, regrouped and won the Championship a year later and were unlucky not to win an Ulster club.  Rossa should have done it also!! no again they regrouped and have won minor and under 21 hurling championships and will push on.

Ballycran have been competitive in the senior championship and never really took any great tankings from either of the two other clubs for quite a while. And to the fact that they competed a lot better than ourselves and Portaferry in Div1 after a year of blodding young players in Div2 of Antrim would suggest that it didn't do them any harm long term.
Rossa have also been able to bring young players up through in Div2 and I'd suggest they'll be pushing hard to get back to Div1 this year.

If we don't get our act together we may be in a similar position this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 22, 2010, 09:45:01 AM
Good luck St Gall's tomorrow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 22, 2010, 12:25:34 PM
Good luck to MR and St Galls from all at Cushendall


Pics from Centre of Excellence on county site. looks as good as the bearpit already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2010, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 22, 2010, 12:25:34 PM
Good luck to MR and St Galls from all at Cushendall


Pics from Centre of Excellence on county site. looks as good as the bearpit already

Cheers lads, I've been relatively calm leading up to the game tomorrow. going in as underdogs sits easier than the possibility of a banana skin against lesser opposition.

the Galway team are very good, i watched them in their county final but very hard to gauge how good they are compared to us. Their main players Kevin Broderick, Liam Hodgins, Roan Madden and Brian Cunningham. 

This time tomorrow............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2010, 09:40:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 22, 2010, 09:38:51 PM
Good luck to St. Gall's.

Coolnasilla isnt far away and dont forget it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
Milltown Row is going to the show ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 23, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
fair play to st galls. Croker i take it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2010, 05:25:20 PM
Great result.

No mean feat beating a team with the likes of Kevin Broderick on it. He was a hreat wee player and shouldn't be that old yet either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 23, 2010, 05:25:20 PM
Great result.

No mean feat beating a team with the likes of Kevin Broderick on it. He was a hreat wee player and shouldn't be that old yet either.

He was great in his day but fond of the juice by all accounts.

Score was 0-12 0-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
Great result, especially as the experts in the Irish News had you totally written off. Donegall Street isn't that far away.

This could be some year for St Gall's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2010, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2010, 07:55:45 PM
Great result, especially as the experts in the Irish News had you totally written off. Donegall Street isn't that far away.

This could be some year for St Gall's.

They do not exist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 24, 2010, 09:48:07 AM
All bets are off for that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 24, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
Any word on the opposition? The other semi must be nearly finished by no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2010, 03:56:50 PM
St Lachtains 1-14 south Liberties 0-14

Kilkenny v Antrim final  Saturday 13th Feb Croke Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
Any county players on their team milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Atticus_Finch on January 24, 2010, 04:19:08 PM
13th February ?  Are the St Galls footballers not due to play on the 14th ? 

Would that game not be rescheduled ?

Maybe i'm wrong in the above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 24, 2010, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
Any county players on their team milltown?

Michael Kavanagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2010, 04:27:48 PM
Michael Kavanagh, corner back.

they have a couple of under 21's decent team, Listened to game  on the radio

football the following week!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 24, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
Antrim hurlers got a bit of a tanking today in Walsh Cup by UCD. 4-20 to 3-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on January 24, 2010, 07:51:23 PM
Congratulations Milltown well done to you and yours. Poor result for the county. Are UCD any good?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 25, 2010, 09:27:29 AM
What was the team for yesterdays game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2010, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 25, 2010, 09:27:29 AM
What was the team for yesterdays game?

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2135
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 25, 2010, 10:19:15 AM
Strong enough team to get a tanking like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 25, 2010, 12:06:16 PM
its near strong as it can be, but that doesnt mean its a good team.

where was Watson?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Olly on January 25, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
Good to see St Galls in the final. They may see not winning the All-Ireland title as abject failure but they still have to beat what is in front of them at that level. If they had played senior hurling this year, they may have contested an Antrim final too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2010, 02:15:02 PM
Cushendall played Dunloy in this year's final. It's highly unlikely St Galls would have beat either of them. Not to take away from their victory. Great to see an antrim team, especially in hurling in an AI final.

I say especially in hurling as sometimes you feel that some teams are beat before they play the match.

If you beat all in ulster in fotoball the belief won't be an issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on January 25, 2010, 02:29:03 PM
Great win for St Galls, great boost for Ulster Hurling. Freshford will be handy enough boyo,s, but might not like the physicality of Antrim hurling. Good luck in the final. Where will it be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 25, 2010, 03:07:00 PM
anyone have the st galls team from sat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on January 25, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
Croke Park !!!

St Galls Team

1.Conor Austin

2.David Sheehan
3.Terry Austin
4.Steven Morrison

5.Anto healy
6.K McGourty
7.Joe McDaniels

8.Karl Stewart
9.Johnny Flynn

10.Sean O'Hara (sean Burke was injured)
11.Kevin McDonald
12.Ciaran Gallagher

13.CJ
14.Aidso Gallagher
15.S McAreavey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 25, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
Great day out for the hurlers in the club and a great run out for those dual players at HQ if they can make it on Paddys Days as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2010, 05:52:44 PM
What's Burke's injury?

He be available alright for the football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
he'll be fine, finger injured during a training session. wanted to keep him for the final ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on January 26, 2010, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2010, 02:15:02 PM
Cushendall played Dunloy in this year's final. It's highly unlikely St Galls would have beat either of them. Not to take away from their victory. Great to see an antrim team, especially in hurling in an AI final.

I say especially in hurling as sometimes you feel that some teams are beat before they play the match.

If you beat all in ulster in fotoball the belief won't be an issue.
I think ur taking the piss there that it is highly unlikely that St Galls could not beat Cushendall or Dunloy , St Galls have have played dunloy many times in the last few yrs an given them a run for their money , i think there might have been a win there to , but Cushendall , lets be honest , they r not a great team an i would say a few north antrim teams r happy not the Galls did not play in div 1 last yr as they might have got their bums slap an a few heads rattled but it's all good saying that now as it might be a yr or 2 before St galls get the chance to go up but im sure the Rossa will give a good account of themselves , good kids coming through just a tad more experince there needed & will defo do better than the Jonnies  ;D
Anyway it must be a good thing seeing St Johns have decided to play in the same championship, St Galls did not have that choice last yr , there fate was pick for them .
Blue day all the way .Come on thee Galls  do Antrim an Ulster  most of all urselves proud .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2010, 09:04:51 AM
Rasmatazz you been on the drink again?

There is a difference in running the top teams close in a league game and actually getting close to them or beating them on a championship sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2010, 09:53:11 AM
Ras cushendall were a minute away from an AI club final last year. Dunly have just won ulster.

Anyway I wasn't trying to take away from your hurlers - you've done great and I'm happy for you.

There is a gap between intermediate and senior though and you'd go a long way to find the last team outside Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall who beat one of the other three in the championship. Rossa would be the last ones and Ballycastle before that. Group round robin stages don't count either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 26, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 25, 2010, 12:06:16 PM

where was Watson?

Have been told that he was at the game but had played for Donegal Celtic on the Saturday and therefore wasnt considered for the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 26, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
that'll happen up to may im sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2010, 07:26:50 PM
we would be way off Loughgiel come Championship Sunday in August. we'd certainly give them a game now, but.......

I think most people will look at Dunloy again and the Dall. but would keep tabs on Loughgiel. who have they as manager this year? have the Dall a new manager in yet?

Glenariffe training away in the gym i hear,  Ballycastle will try and live up to their great past but both will fall short.

Rossa? well they are an unknown quantity. that leaves the Johnnies ;D us and Gorts as the other club teams.

if the format was changed then we could have the weaker clubs (everyone bar Dunloy Cushendall and Loughgiel) play off for a semi final spot.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2010, 09:03:32 PM
Loughgile will have a new manager this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 26, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
ours will be decided this weekend also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2010, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 26, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
ours will be decided this weekend also

Is James McNaughton not going again Colonel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on January 26, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
Lads anyone any idea the craic for the leagues this year. More specifically around div 3/4a. Hear a rumor wemight be put up but don't know if or when a decision will be taken on this. Cheers. Also congrats to st galls. No mean feat winning on sat there. Hopefully teach those southern bastards a lesson in the final. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 26, 2010, 10:42:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 26, 2010, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 26, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
ours will be decided this weekend also

Is James McNaughton not going again Colonel?

AGM is sunday but there might be someone else running, not saying I know what nominations are in but all will be revealed after AGM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on January 27, 2010, 12:03:50 AM
Kool lads wasn't on the drink , but can't into that  ;D anyway nothing like stoking a fire  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2010, 11:02:38 PM
What's that in english...

Be interesting to se who Loughgiel's manager is. Was Nelson not rumoured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 28, 2010, 09:17:23 AM
Why would yous be promoted BG when it's one up one down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 28, 2010, 12:09:56 PM
The only teams changing division for 2010 will be those that were promoted or relegated.  Maybe there will be a proposal to make this years hurling leagues 2 up and 2 down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on January 28, 2010, 01:10:26 PM
Just heard a rumor at the end of last year. Didn't think it'd be any different to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2010, 06:46:04 PM
I heard that the div 4 a/b would become one, is that true?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2010, 08:19:27 PM
The word on the street is that Bredagh have been promoted along with Glenravel from division 3 despite finishing second.

Not too sure of the merging of 4a and 4b but I don't think that'd be a good idea. Too much of a gap between top and bottom.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 28, 2010, 08:34:01 PM
Fairly sure leagues will be left the way they finished last season.  If Bredagh were put up into Div 3 then Lámh Dhearg would have the right to be asking to go up to Div 2, possibly St. John's back to Div 1 - it would set a precedent that would lead to nothing but headaches for the CCC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2010, 08:46:06 PM
I'm pretty sure I heard this is happening though. Heard from a good source. I'll check further to be sure it's not just chinese whispers...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2010, 08:49:40 PM
Will there ever be a league structure with proper relegation and promotion that will last more than 2 years without pandering to the bigger teams? It's all a bit if a joke that every year there is yet another discussion on what form the leagues will take. If your good you stay up or get promoted, if you're not you go down. No matter who you are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 29, 2010, 08:48:08 AM
Morning all, pdiddy here,  A gaaboard virgin  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on January 29, 2010, 09:14:49 AM
AHHH, Pdiddy, how the hell are ye?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 29, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
Not bad, looking forward to the start of the hurling season.  Like a few of the others think it will be a 3 horse race between Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel. Who are your favourites over in Derry?  What about a shock win for Ballinascreen?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 29, 2010, 11:35:21 AM
pdiddy - can you tell us what it feels like when you wake up in the morning?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Davittgac on January 29, 2010, 12:21:44 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on January 29, 2010, 01:02:15 PM
I'm new here too. Been readin fer ages it for ages tho. Some oul muck gets talked but sure its all a bit of craic.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 29, 2010, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 29, 2010, 11:35:21 AM
pdiddy - can you tell us what it feels like when you wake up in the morning?  ;D

Like a bottle of Jack! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on January 29, 2010, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on January 29, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
Not bad, looking forward to the start of the hurling season.  Like a few of the others think it will be a 3 horse race between Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel. Who are your favourites over in Derry?  What about a shock win for Ballinascreen?

No change in Derry at club level, it,ll still be the Lynchs. I,d maybe expect a surprise at senior county, maybe an Ulster championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shambo on January 29, 2010, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: samboswig on January 29, 2010, 01:02:15 PM
I'm new here too. Been readin fer ages it for ages tho. Some oul muck gets talked but sure its all a bit of craic.

well then try somewhere else like the Antrim site ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 01, 2010, 01:13:56 PM
Any white smoke from the Cushendall camp yet?  Loughgiel are holding a meeting tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 01, 2010, 01:28:20 PM
Ciaran McCambridge- Gazza installed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on February 01, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
ha ha are you taking the piss what makes you think that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on February 01, 2010, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: the waffler on February 01, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
ha ha are you taking the piss what makes you think that

New management team and about 10 / 11 players that would,nt play under previous management. They should be a more potent force this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2010, 10:23:21 PM
so who is loughgiel's manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 01, 2010, 10:43:16 PM
I think the interviews for the loughgiel job are tonight.  3 or 4 parties running for the post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 02, 2010, 09:31:12 AM
3 or 4 parties in the running? I wish I saw that in our club. "Expenses" not involved hopefully or is the rot about to set in as with our neighbours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 02, 2010, 10:07:35 AM
White smoke from Loughgiel suggesting PJ O'Mullan Jnr has got the job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Aidan Hamill back at Rossa with the McSorleys as his underlings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 02, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Adian Hamill back at Rossa with the McSorleys as his underlings.

Has Hamill managed Rossa before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 02, 2010, 11:51:59 AM
Jim Nelson amongst others involved in Loughgiel with PJ.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
Aidan Hamill would have done several stints at Rossa. Was he not the manager when they last won the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 02, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
Aidan Hamill would have done several stints at Rossa. Was he not the manager when they last won the championship?

Is there a word that means more than "several"? Liam McAuley was the manager (in name anyway) when Rossa last won the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 02, 2010, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Adian Hamill back at Rossa with the McSorleys as his underlings.

Has Hamill managed Rossa before?

Probably easier to identify the years he hasn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 02, 2010, 04:20:03 PM
Well done minder :D

Didn't think anybody would have been caught with that one?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 02, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 02, 2010, 04:20:03 PM
Well done minder :D

Didn't think anybody would have been caught with that one?  :D

Neither did I
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Owenbeg on February 02, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 01, 2010, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: the waffler on February 01, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
ha ha are you taking the piss what makes you think that

New management team and about 10 / 11 players that would,nt play under previous management. They should be a more potent force this year.

Who's these 10/11 players???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on February 02, 2010, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 01, 2010, 10:23:21 PM
so who is loughgiel's manager?
Rodger Rabit  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 03, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
From Loughgiel website;

A new Senior Management Team has been selected.

Our new Manager is P.J O'Mullan(Jnr) - his back-up team includes Jim Nelson, Joe McGurk, Dominic Casey, Mick O'Connell and Tommy Stevenson.

The committee would like to thank all three parties who applied for the job for their time and effort in preparing their interviews.

We wish P.J and his team all the best for the oncoming season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 03, 2010, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 02, 2010, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Aidan Hamill back at Rossa with the McSorleys as his underlings.
How many McSorleys?

Two of them, Gerard and Joe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 03, 2010, 09:34:19 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 03, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
From Loughgiel website;

A new Senior Management Team has been selected.

Our new Manager is P.J O'Mullan(Jnr) - his back-up team includes Jim Nelson, Joe McGurk, Dominic Casey, Mick O'Connell and Tommy Stevenson.

The committee would like to thank all three parties who applied for the job for their time and effort in preparing their interviews.

We wish P.J and his team all the best for the oncoming season.

Jesus...thats alot of travelling expenses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 03, 2010, 09:34:19 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 03, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
From Loughgiel website;

A new Senior Management Team has been selected.

Our new Manager is P.J O'Mullan(Jnr) - his back-up team includes Jim Nelson, Joe McGurk, Dominic Casey, Mick O'Connell and Tommy Stevenson.

The committee would like to thank all three parties who applied for the job for their time and effort in preparing their interviews.

We wish P.J and his team all the best for the oncoming season.

Jesus...thats alot of travelling expenses.
A sign of desperation I think. A lot of string characters there so will be interesting to see who makes the decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on February 04, 2010, 12:01:22 AM
The man above  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2010, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 03, 2010, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2010, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 03, 2010, 09:34:19 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 03, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
From Loughgiel website;

A new Senior Management Team has been selected.

Our new Manager is P.J O'Mullan(Jnr) - his back-up team includes Jim Nelson, Joe McGurk, Dominic Casey, Mick O'Connell and Tommy Stevenson.

The committee would like to thank all three parties who applied for the job for their time and effort in preparing their interviews.

We wish P.J and his team all the best for the oncoming season.

Jesus...thats alot of travelling expenses.
A sign of desperation I think. A lot of string characters there so will be interesting to see who makes the decisions.
The puppeteer?
Do you miss naffin? This iPhone keypad isn't all that.
Title: Aontroim
Post by: drici on February 07, 2010, 01:08:12 AM
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WALSH CUP S.H.
Saturday, 6th February 2010
Galway (1-22) Offaly (2-15)
Dublin (2-17) Wexford (2-13)

WALSH CUP S.H.SHIELD
Saturday, 6th February 2010
NUIG (4-23) Antrim (2-15)
Carlow (2-14) UCD (0-11)
Kilkenny (8-20) GMIT (0-8)
Title: http://leinster.gaa.ie/fixtures/walshcup.asp
Post by: drici on February 07, 2010, 01:16:53 AM
WALSH CUP SENIOR HURLING SHIELD 2010.
Dates VENUES
A. Antrim v NUIG
06.02.2010
Dunganny

B. UCD v Carlow
06.02.2010
Carlow

C. GMIT v Kilkenny
06.02.2010
Kilkenny

D. Laois v DIT
07.02.2010
Rathdowney

E. NUIG v Carlow
14.02.2010
 

D. Kilkenny C v D
14.02.2010
 

CRAOBH FINAL: E v F 21.02.2010 or 07.03.2010
 



FIRST NAMED TEAM HOME VENUES IN ALL GAMES
Title: http://leinster.gaa.ie/fixtures/walshcup.asp
Post by: drici on February 07, 2010, 11:45:47 PM
WALSH CUP SENIOR HURLING SHIELD 2010.
Dates VENUES
A. Antrim v NUIG
06.02.2010
Dunganny

B. UCD v Carlow
06.02.2010
Carlow

C. GMIT v Kilkenny
06.02.2010
Kilkenny

D. Laois v DIT
07.02.2010
Rathdowney

E. Antrim v Carlow
14.02.2010
 

D. Kilkenny v Laois
14.02.2010
 

CRAOBH FINAL: E v F 21.02.2010 or 07.03.2010
 



FIRST NAMED TEAM HOME VENUES IN ALL GAMES
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 08, 2010, 01:07:53 PM
From county site

The lethal finishing of the Antrim forward line was the deciding factor in Dunganny on Saturday afternoon.

An incredible 12-point haul from Antrim's Neil McManus epitomised the efficiency of the Glensmen, who started and ended the game with a flurry of impressive scores.

Scorers -- Antrim: N McManus 0-12 (5f, 1 '45), E McCluskey 2-1, S McNaughton 0-6, M Scullion 0-2, C McVaughan, D Hamill 0-1 each. NUI Galway: D Sullivan 2-0, S Quinlan 1-2, D Reidy 0-5 (2f), D O'Flynn 1-0, K Keehan, D Barrett, G Kelly 0-2 each, J O'Gorman, P Kennedy 0-1 each.


Who is C McVaughan??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 08, 2010, 01:41:33 PM
More importantly how did McManus get away with hitting a 45
(Scorers -- Antrim: N McManus 0-12 (5f, 1 '45))

Some impressive tallies there alright, McManus 0-6 from play, Mcnaughton the same, Eddie McCloskey 2-1, 2:17 from play in total is not bad for the middle of Feb.  Was Watson not playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2010, 03:17:56 PM
Seriously wouldnt get carried away with that result boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 08, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
nobody getting to carried away with a win over a college in a walsh shield final but nonetheless scoring 6 times from play in any match is good going.

I see according to the fixtures parnell will get a bit of use this weekend,
Dublin v Derry Sat at 7:30pm
Dublin v Galway Sun 12:45pm Walsh Cup Final
Dunloy v Portumna 2:30pm AI club Semi Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2010, 04:09:16 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 08, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
nobody getting to carried away with a win over a college in a walsh shield final but nonetheless scoring 6 times from play in any match is good going.

I see according to the fixtures parnell will get a bit of use this weekend,
Dublin v Derry Sat at 7:30pm
Dublin v Galway Sun 12:45pm Walsh Cup Final
Dunloy v Portumna 2:30pm AI club Semi Final

Why are they playing an oul bullshit Walsh Cup match before an All Ireland Semi Final? If it is anyway wet the pitch will be in quare order for Dunloy v Portumna.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
While not good for the pitch that would slow the game down which would be no bad thing for Dunloy...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2010, 04:33:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
While not good for the pitch that would slow the game down which would be no bad thing for Dunloy...

Possibly but I think it is also a lack of respect for one of the biggest games in the Gaa calendar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
Why, if Dublin are in it, is it not in a more neutral venue anyway?

Do Galway and Antrim have to play all games away from home in the Walsh cup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
While not good for the pitch that would slow the game down which would be no bad thing for Dunloy...

the pitch is Shiite, we played on it the other week and it was sticky, wasn't level (within reason) the grass was badly cut and a football followed by a hurling match before the semi final will certainly cut it up.

hope to be down the next day after our final. would maybe need a chauffeur as i may still be pissed ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 08, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Where did Antrim play the Walsh Cup Final two years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 08, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Where did Antrim play the Walsh Cup Final two years ago?

Casement, possibly the wettest day I have experienced in Casement. Soaked to the balls I believe is the phrase.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 08, 2010, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 08, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Where did Antrim play the Walsh Cup Final two years ago?

Casement, possibly the wettest day I have experienced in Casement. Soaked to the balls I believe is the phrase.

Offaly offered to come to Belfast if I remember correctly. All other games Antrim and Galway have had to travel as part of them taking part
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2010, 09:27:01 PM
Kilkenny also agree to come up, last year I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2010, 10:10:46 PM
Kilkenny did indeed come up, a request by Cody. Antrim should meet Kilkenny again after the next round of the Shield competition. decent enough build up for the league.

Galway should win the Walsh cup this year. strange that in the last 3 years. Leinster teams will have only won it once
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 08, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
While not good for the pitch that would slow the game down which would be no bad thing for Dunloy...

the pitch is Shiite, we played on it the other week and it was sticky, wasn't level (within reason) the grass was badly cut and a football followed by a hurling match before the semi final will certainly cut it up.

hope to be down the next day after our final. would maybe need a chauffeur as i may still be pissed ;)

Does the next day after your final end in "y"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 08, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 08, 2010, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 08, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Where did Antrim play the Walsh Cup Final two years ago?

Casement, possibly the wettest day I have experienced in Casement. Soaked to the balls I believe is the phrase.

Offaly offered to come to Belfast if I remember correctly. All other games Antrim and Galway have had to travel as part of them taking part
Offaly didnt offer to play the Final at Casement. It was the way the draw worked out. Whoever came out of that side of the draw would have had home advantage. It was a brutal day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 08, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2010, 04:28:31 PM
While not good for the pitch that would slow the game down which would be no bad thing for Dunloy...

the pitch is Shiite, we played on it the other week and it was sticky, wasn't level (within reason) the grass was badly cut and a football followed by a hurling match before the semi final will certainly cut it up.

hope to be down the next day after our final. would maybe need a chauffeur as i may still be pissed ;)

Does the next day after your final end in "y"?

yes, my wife is expecting me back on Tuesda"y"  after work ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 10, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Good luck to St Galls and Dunloy this weekend. Would be a boost before National League starts if either could get a win.

Heard Paul Shiels will be playing. Heard he was very good in a recent challenge against Antrim. Damien McMullan and Woody to be injured and Darren Quinn went off to oz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2010, 05:15:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 10, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Good luck to St Galls and Dunloy this weekend. Would be a boost before National League starts if either could get a win.

Heard Paul Shiels will be playing. Heard he was very good in a recent challenge against Antrim. Damien McMullan and Woody to be injured and Darren Quinn went off to oz

So is he currently in Australia?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 10, 2010, 05:17:09 PM
From what I heard from one of their players he left recently for a year or so. Had his plans set quite a while ago and decided to head on. Wonder if it hadnt been Portumna??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 11, 2010, 11:01:23 AM
Think it was possibly more to do with a lack of work around here, he actually kept delaying it until the Championship was over in Ulster but with the big gap between Ulster Final and Semi final i don't think it was possible to delay any further.  Woody and Rab are big losses but means big opportunity for someone else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 11, 2010, 11:24:10 AM
Good luck to st.galls and dunloy this weekend. Would be brilliant for antrim and ulster hurling to get a couple of results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
I'd like to echo those comments. Good luck St Gall's and Dunloy. i think both'll get hammered though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
Good luck to both. I saw St Galls are 11/4 with Paddy Power, do Ladbrokes have a price?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on February 13, 2010, 12:57:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 13, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
I'd like to echo those comments. Good luck St Gall's and Dunloy. i think both'll get hammered though.

Thats what alot of people though would happen when we played TAD Galway, just because its a kilkenny team we are written off 11/4 GET YOUR LOT ON IT.............

Dunloy you never know.....why not stranger things have happened.

Hope lady luck favours St Galls Dunloy NCC all the best.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 13, 2010, 07:32:31 PM
Best of luck to St Galls. If anybody hears the result would they put it up on here.

Good luck to Dunloy too. They certainly will be up against it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 13, 2010, 10:11:14 PM
Result didnt go St. Gall's way tonight by the looks of things - St Lachtains Freshford 3-17 St Galls 0-10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2010, 11:00:04 PM
Hopefully Milltown will do the right thing.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2010, 12:36:01 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 13, 2010, 11:00:04 PM
Hopefully Milltown will do the right thing.......
Get pissed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2010, 09:37:37 AM
Milltown. This morning. Outside Aldo's.

(http://beerinfood.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/beer_tramp.gif)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2010, 12:23:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 14, 2010, 09:37:37 AM
Milltown. This morning. Outside Aldo's.

(http://beerinfood.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/beer_tramp.gif)

I would say he would he happy with 10% of that hair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
Portumna 2-18 Dunloy 0-12 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 15, 2010, 08:32:38 AM
Hurlers beaten by Carlow by 2 pts at the weekend in the Walsh Shield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: milltown row on February 15, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
Antrim vs Carlow- Report for county website

CARLOW hurlers recovered from a dreadful start to overcome Antrim in this exciting tie at Dr Cullen Park, Carlow yesterday and set up a home final meeting with neighbours Laois.

The Saffrons raced into a 1-3 to no score lead after seven minutes, right half-forward Eddie McCloskey opening the scoring with a goal on three minutes.

Carlow slowly gained a foothold and in the 10th minute were boosted by a fine individual goal from centre-forward Eddie Byrne.

Carlow went 2-11 to 1-11 in front on 46 minutes and still held a three-point advantage when the Saffrons were awarded a 35-metre free in the dying stages. Liam Watson's effort rose over the bar and Carlow were through to the final.

These sides meet again in the opening round of the NHL on Sunday next when Antrim have home ground advantage.

Scorers -- Carlow: E Byrne 1-3, R Dunbar 1-1, C Hughes 0-3 (1f), A Gaule, R Coady (1f, 1 '65) 0-2 each, C Doyle, B Lawler and P Kehoe 0-1 each. Antrim: L Watson 0-7 (0-5f), S McCrory 0-4, E McCloskey 1-0, A Smiley 0-2, K McKeegan (1f), M Scullion 0-1 each.

Carlow -- K Kehoe; A Corcoran, J Rogers, D Shaw; J O'Hara, R Coady, P Doyle; D Roberts, J Hickey; R Dunbar, E Byrne, C Hughes; A Gaule, E Minchin, C Doyle. Subs: P Kehoe for Hickey (24), B Lawler for Minchin (h-t), E Nolan for P Doyle (h-t), E Kane for O'Hara (53), D Miley for K Kehoe (62), D Byrne for Rogers (65).

Antrim -- C O'Connell; S Shannon, N McGarry, R McDonnell; N McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron; P McGill, M Scullion; E McCloskey, C McBride, A Smiley; S McCrory, L Watson, T McCann. Subs: A Graffin for McDonnell (46), C McFall for McCloskey (51), N McManus for McBride (68).

Ref -- J Kelly (Wexford)

From Independent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 15, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Gutted, don't think a 12 point defeat does justice to the competitiveness of the game. Gave Portumna a fair rattle in the fifteen mins after half time we just needed a goal during this period of dominance and it really would have tested Portumna's resolve
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 15, 2010, 02:22:40 PM
far from a first team there so wouldn't get to worried. imagine it will be a different team next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 15, 2010, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 15, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Gutted, don't think a 12 point defeat does justice to the competitiveness of the game. Gave Portumna a fair rattle in the fifteen mins after half time we just needed a goal during this period of dominance and it really would have tested Portumna's resolve

Agreed Max

Though Portumna always posed that extra bit of awareness and had much more success gaining dirty ball possession whereas we snatched and missed on too many occasions in those areas. But we fought them all the way and this from a much changed side brimming with youth. I'm hoping that in this new era of players we can develop the big game composure and team play that portumna showed over time. For now I'm more than proud of our display yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ha ha derry on February 16, 2010, 07:59:06 AM
A good gutsy performance by the Dunloy defence, but the biggest problem was the forwards inability to win any of their own puck outs. I thought the keeper could have tried to place the ball more to giv e the forwards a fighting chance.
Joe Canning was outstanding but Mc Keigue had a great game too. Damien Hayes was well marked.
The biggest problem for Dunloy was the Ulster councils insistance on playing the final mid October. Too long a lay off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 16, 2010, 03:26:23 PM
Don't think we could really blame the lay off for the defeat, Portumna are just an unreal team and Dunloy arguably put in our best performance of the year and still where well beaten.  They have talent in spades but by jeez they work hard to, very hard to get the quality ball into the forwards that we needed given how quickly we were closed down.

Plenty of positives from the game, not least the age profile of the half back line, the return of Shorty and the committment and honesty the team displayed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 17, 2010, 12:53:58 PM
Expect a full team out on Sunday. Would expect a good few changes from last weeks team in Walsh Shield.

Hopefully Neil stays on form. 12 points against NUIG and scored all of UUJ's 3-7 yesterday in the Fitzgibbon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 17, 2010, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 17, 2010, 12:53:58 PM
Expect a full team out on Sunday. Would expect a good few changes from last weeks team in Walsh Shield.

Hopefully Neil stays on form. 12 points against NUIG and scored all of UUJ's 3-7 yesterday in the Fitzgibbon.

Will be interesting to see what changes are made from and how they fare in comparison with last week's team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 17, 2010, 04:46:07 PM
C O'Connell; S Shannon, N McGarry, R McDonnell; N McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron; P McGill, M Scullion; E McCloskey, C McBride, A Smiley; S McCrory, L Watson, T McCann. Subs: A Graffin for McDonnell (46), C McFall for McCloskey (51), N McManus for McBride (68).

Players I wouln't expect in the team. Who will come in there?
Neil, Shane and Graffin and Ryan McGarry should all come in. Maybe Tosh and Hippy?

Any idea when the Dunloy players will be available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 05:04:47 PM
Who is C McBride?

There wouldn't be too many Dunloy players in the panel. I'm not even sure I could think of anyone bar Paddy Richmond? Your man Doherty might be in there but not convinced he's that level...

I suppose young Woody might be in the panel too? Anyone else?

That was a poor enough team out against Carlow however Carlow have improved a lot. Did they not beat us in the league last year? Be a tough enough game. Nothing to say that was Carlow's full team either...

P.S. Hard luck MR. Great work getting to the final though. Kilkenny team just a step too far unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 17, 2010, 05:55:06 PM
Colm mcbride from armoy I think.

Paul Shiels will be at least another inclusion for definate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 17, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 15, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
Antrim vs Carlow- Report for county website

CARLOW hurlers recovered from a dreadful start to overcome Antrim in this exciting tie at Dr Cullen Park, Carlow yesterday and set up a home final meeting with neighbours Laois.

The Saffrons raced into a 1-3 to no score lead after seven minutes, right half-forward Eddie McCloskey opening the scoring with a goal on three minutes.

Carlow slowly gained a foothold and in the 10th minute were boosted by a fine individual goal from centre-forward Eddie Byrne.

Carlow went 2-11 to 1-11 in front on 46 minutes and still held a three-point advantage when the Saffrons were awarded a 35-metre free in the dying stages. Liam Watson's effort rose over the bar and Carlow were through to the final.

These sides meet again in the opening round of the NHL on Sunday next when Antrim have home ground advantage.

Scorers -- Carlow: E Byrne 1-3, R Dunbar 1-1, C Hughes 0-3 (1f), A Gaule, R Coady (1f, 1 '65) 0-2 each, C Doyle, B Lawler and P Kehoe 0-1 each. Antrim: L Watson 0-7 (0-5f), S McCrory 0-4, E McCloskey 1-0, A Smiley 0-2, K McKeegan (1f), M Scullion 0-1 each.

Carlow -- K Kehoe; A Corcoran, J Rogers, D Shaw; J O'Hara, R Coady, P Doyle; D Roberts, J Hickey; R Dunbar, E Byrne, C Hughes; A Gaule, E Minchin, C Doyle. Subs: P Kehoe for Hickey (24), B Lawler for Minchin (h-t), E Nolan for P Doyle (h-t), E Kane for O'Hara (53), D Miley for K Kehoe (62), D Byrne for Rogers (65).

Antrim -- C O'Connell; S Shannon, N McGarry, R McDonnell; N McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron; P McGill, M Scullion; E McCloskey, C McBride, A Smiley; S McCrory, L Watson, T McCann. Subs: A Graffin for McDonnell (46), C McFall for McCloskey (51), N McManus for McBride (68).

Ref -- J Kelly (Wexford)

From Independent

I'm confused.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 10:15:08 PM
I'd be hoping they don't rush Shields back Colonel. Sounded a particularly bad injury he had so wouldn't do him any harm staying away from county for a bit...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 17, 2010, 10:20:46 PM
thats last weekends Walsh Shield Semi Saffron Sam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2010, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 17, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 15, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
Antrim vs Carlow- Report for county website

CARLOW hurlers recovered from a dreadful start to overcome Antrim in this exciting tie at Dr Cullen Park, Carlow yesterday and set up a home final meeting with neighbours Laois.

The Saffrons raced into a 1-3 to no score lead after seven minutes, right half-forward Eddie McCloskey opening the scoring with a goal on three minutes.

Carlow slowly gained a foothold and in the 10th minute were boosted by a fine individual goal from centre-forward Eddie Byrne.

Carlow went 2-11 to 1-11 in front on 46 minutes and still held a three-point advantage when the Saffrons were awarded a 35-metre free in the dying stages. Liam Watson's effort rose over the bar and Carlow were through to the final.

These sides meet again in the opening round of the NHL on Sunday next when Antrim have home ground advantage.

Scorers -- Carlow: E Byrne 1-3, R Dunbar 1-1, C Hughes 0-3 (1f), A Gaule, R Coady (1f, 1 '65) 0-2 each, C Doyle, B Lawler and P Kehoe 0-1 each. Antrim: L Watson 0-7 (0-5f), S McCrory 0-4, E McCloskey 1-0, A Smiley 0-2, K McKeegan (1f), M Scullion 0-1 each.

Carlow -- K Kehoe; A Corcoran, J Rogers, D Shaw; J O'Hara, R Coady, P Doyle; D Roberts, J Hickey; R Dunbar, E Byrne, C Hughes; A Gaule, E Minchin, C Doyle. Subs: P Kehoe for Hickey (24), B Lawler for Minchin (h-t), E Nolan for P Doyle (h-t), E Kane for O'Hara (53), D Miley for K Kehoe (62), D Byrne for Rogers (65).

Antrim -- C O'Connell; S Shannon, N McGarry, R McDonnell; N McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron; P McGill, M Scullion; E McCloskey, C McBride, A Smiley; S McCrory, L Watson, T McCann. Subs: A Graffin for McDonnell (46), C McFall for McCloskey (51), N McManus for McBride (68).

Ref -- J Kelly (Wexford)

From Independent

I'm confused.

your confused!! this is the person who stole my identity and is posting under my name.

as for our game in Croke, less said the better.

will talk about it when i feel better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 18, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2010, 05:36:45 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on February 17, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: milltown row on February 15, 2010, 01:59:54 PM
Antrim vs Carlow- Report for county website

CARLOW hurlers recovered from a dreadful start to overcome Antrim in this exciting tie at Dr Cullen Park, Carlow yesterday and set up a home final meeting with neighbours Laois.

The Saffrons raced into a 1-3 to no score lead after seven minutes, right half-forward Eddie McCloskey opening the scoring with a goal on three minutes.

Carlow slowly gained a foothold and in the 10th minute were boosted by a fine individual goal from centre-forward Eddie Byrne.

Carlow went 2-11 to 1-11 in front on 46 minutes and still held a three-point advantage when the Saffrons were awarded a 35-metre free in the dying stages. Liam Watson's effort rose over the bar and Carlow were through to the final.

These sides meet again in the opening round of the NHL on Sunday next when Antrim have home ground advantage.

Scorers -- Carlow: E Byrne 1-3, R Dunbar 1-1, C Hughes 0-3 (1f), A Gaule, R Coady (1f, 1 '65) 0-2 each, C Doyle, B Lawler and P Kehoe 0-1 each. Antrim: L Watson 0-7 (0-5f), S McCrory 0-4, E McCloskey 1-0, A Smiley 0-2, K McKeegan (1f), M Scullion 0-1 each.

Carlow -- K Kehoe; A Corcoran, J Rogers, D Shaw; J O'Hara, R Coady, P Doyle; D Roberts, J Hickey; R Dunbar, E Byrne, C Hughes; A Gaule, E Minchin, C Doyle. Subs: P Kehoe for Hickey (24), B Lawler for Minchin (h-t), E Nolan for P Doyle (h-t), E Kane for O'Hara (53), D Miley for K Kehoe (62), D Byrne for Rogers (65).

Antrim -- C O'Connell; S Shannon, N McGarry, R McDonnell; N McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron; P McGill, M Scullion; E McCloskey, C McBride, A Smiley; S McCrory, L Watson, T McCann. Subs: A Graffin for McDonnell (46), C McFall for McCloskey (51), N McManus for McBride (68).

Ref -- J Kelly (Wexford)

From Independent

I'm confused.

your confused!! this is the person who stole my identity and is posting under my name.

as for our game in Croke, less said the better.

will talk about it when i feel better

Same thing happened wesaysanchez.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4726.msg159610#msg159610 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4726.msg159610#msg159610)
Title: Carlow Nationalist
Post by: drici on February 18, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
(http://www.carlow-nationalist.ie/Portals/2/Pictures/c/CarlowHurling.jpg)
By Kieran Murphy
CARLOW hurling manager Kevin Ryan is looking for a big performance when his side opens their NHL Division 2 campaign at Casement Park in Belfast on Sunday.

"We see every game as a potential two points and that is the way to look at it," he said.

"I wouldn't be putting a figure on points saying we must get this and we must get that. It is how we perform. Obviously we have to pick up points and the priority is to survive in Division 2 and see how we can do after that. It is about performing and getting better after every game."

After the highs of the previous two years Carlow hurling followers will be anxious to stay in Division 2 as well but that success has upped the ante.

"Clare and Wexford will be extremely tough and would be seen as Division 1 sides. It is seeing what level of performance we can get against those sides. I wouldn't pick any one game as we could all be amazed at the end of the day where the points come from," opined Ryan.

However there is heartbreak for James Hickey who will be out for at least three league games. There are few hurlers in the county who love the game more than the Rangers captain and Ryan is aware of this.

"He loves hurling. He lives for it and does everything asked of him and more. It is an awful pity for him personally. He is a big loss.

"(He is) A great engine that would drive things on in the middle of the field but that is what a squad is all about.

"Thankfully we have the squad of players and there are players who are ready to take over.

"It could have happened later on in the year and he could miss championship and if we have him back for the end of the league and championship that is the best way to look at."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2010, 01:12:28 AM
That Carlow boy is very big.
Title: Carlow People
Post by: drici on February 19, 2010, 11:57:42 AM
(http://www.carlowpeople.ie/multimedia/archive/00511/e227f651-a019-4ea0-_511144t.jpg)

CARLOW ENJOYED a very useful Divison 2 NHL campaign last year, beating Kerry, Down and Antrim in Dr Cullen Park as well as taking full points from Westmeath in Mullingar to collect sufficient points to finish fourth.

Though beaten by Laois in Portlaoise Carlow finished ahead of their neighbours on score difference. Alas, against the group's 'big two' Carlow were blitzed early as Offaly and Wexford romped to easy victories in Tullamore and Wexford Park.

The 2010 campaign starts next Sunday, the first of two Carlow visits to Ulster as Carlow take on Antrim, heading up again on March 14 when Down will be the hosts.

With a Dr Cullen Park clash against rejuvenated Westmeath sandwiched in between Carlow face a tough start and though Kevin Ryan's charges got the full six points from those three fixtures last year, a repeat, especially considering the away nature of the Ulster games, is a tall order.

However, let's take it one day at a time; first up Antrim in Belfast. And forget last Sunday's Walsh Shield match. This will be a much different prospect. Carlow have never beaten Antrim on Antrim soil, this would be a great time to start!

GEO BYRNE IN CROKER GEORGE 'Geo' Byrne, formerly of Palatine, was togged out in Croke Park last Saturday night, a sub on the Naomh Colm Cille team beaten by Blackrock of Limerick in the All-Ireland Club Junior hurling final.

The 40 year-old has been resident in Tyrone for some years now and actually hurled for the Red hand county against Carlow in the NHL some years ago.

A brother of Joe Byrne, who captained Palatine to the 2006 Carlow SFC, Geo's services were not called on and thus did not emulate the feat of the 20 Erin's Own men who saw action in the National Junior final four years ago.

George's club, popularly known as NCC, based in Coalisland and Clonoe are an exclusive hurling club in a football mad county.

He wasn't the only Carlow man togged out in Croker on Saturday, Ballinkillen's Patrick Murphy was a linesman for that Junior final.

Carlow referee David Hughes took charge of the UCD v NUIG Fitzgibbon Cup second round match in Belfield last week, a prestigious 'marking' for the Erin's Own, Bagenalstown 'whistler'.

NHL FIXTURES

Sunday, February 21: Carlow v Antrim, Belfast Sunday, February 28: Carlow v Westmeath, Dr Cullen Park Sunday, March 14: Carlow v Down, Ballycran/Newry Sunday, March 21: Carlow v Wexford, Dr Cullen Park Sunday, March 28: Carlow v Clare, Dr Cullen Park Sunday, April 4: Carlow v Kildare, Newbridge Sunday, April 18: Carlow v Laois, Dr Cullen Park Sunday, May 2: Final

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 19, 2010, 01:31:10 PM
Is it just me or is there something really depressing about starting our NHL against Carlow?
(No disrespect intended)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 19, 2010, 02:36:55 PM
Think there may have been an article on Antrim hurling in the Irish News on Wednesday (17th)? Anyone have access to it and can post it?
Cheers.

Any inside info on the team named v Carlow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 19, 2010, 02:36:55 PM
Think there may have been an article on Antrim hurling in the Irish News on Wednesday (17th)? Anyone have access to it and can post it?
Cheers.

Any inside info on the team named v Carlow?

Don't think the team had been named yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 19, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 19, 2010, 01:31:10 PM
Is it just me or is there something really depressing about starting our NHL against Carlow?
(No disrespect intended)

I know entirely what you mean, but the reality is that is where we are at at the minute.

The days where we could approach a game like this thinking it will be an easy win for us are long gone.

Actually, a bit worried about Sunday given that Carlow beat Limerick a few weeks ago, albeit:

1. Limerick are is disarray, and

2. It was a challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
I wouldn't read too much into the Limerick result as the current Limerick squad is not recognisable to previous squads and they will be in Div 2 next year with that panel. Antrim should win, with home advantage counting for a lot, but I wouldn't be putting much money on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 19, 2010, 03:20:22 PM
Yeah I had tongue firmly planted in cheek but just thinking back to the days of the bigger ties where there would be a bit of excitement to dispell the winter blues.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
Carlow have improved a lot and let's be honest we haven't made any improvement in a while. (I think anyway)

I wouldn't say its depressing we play carlow. It's maybe mroe depressing that it's a game we will be hard pushed to win .

Not a good way to think - means thinking like a derry footballer supporter.

If we want to beat carlow we'll have to earn it. Last two games they've beat us. You could argue we were weakend last time out but sure we don't know what state carlow were in either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2010, 05:51:10 PM
BBC have heavy snow forecast for Sunday.....wonder if the game will go ahead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
Astonishing revelation today in the Gaelic Life - Milltown claims he lost them the final by giving his side the wrong tape to review. Fair play to him though - takes a big man to hold his hands up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2010, 12:15:23 AM
Bad feeling about St Gall's. I don't think favouritism suits them, coupled with Corofin's reason to succeed this year. Corofin by 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2010, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
Astonishing revelation today in the Gaelic Life - Milltown claims he lost them the final by giving his side the wrong tape to review. Fair play to him though - takes a big man to hold his hands up.

so you read the hurling page ;D

We may not get a good start tomorrow (we never do) but i think we will nick it by a point. we were favourites form the Ulster final O'Neill.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
I got them at 7/2, after the Ulster Final, for the All Ireland. So they better f**king win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2010, 06:58:34 PM
Didn't realise the extent of Corofin's injuries. St Gall's by 29.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
Does anyone know what this is about?


Will the gates be closed after the 2.30pm throw-in on Sunday? ???

They will be closed shortly after 2.30pm.

I saw that, couldn't quite understand it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
Does anyone know what this is about?


Will the gates be closed after the 2.30pm throw-in on Sunday? ???

They will be closed shortly after 2.30pm.

I saw that, couldn't quite understand it.

is this relating to Casement tomorrow? 

must be the regulars in the bar ;) worried about not getting a pint
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2010, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2010, 05:50:53 PM
Does anyone know what this is about?


Will the gates be closed after the 2.30pm throw-in on Sunday? ???

They will be closed shortly after 2.30pm.

I saw that, couldn't quite understand it.
It's surprising the goon manning that guestbook didn't make a sarky comment rather than something strange like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2010, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 21, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
Match is on!

still on? might head over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 01:53:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2010, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 21, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
Match is on!

still on? might head over

It is green for go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 04:03:44 PM
Antrim 1-10 Carlow 2-7

Not sure if that's full time...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
Result:

Antrim 1-11 Carlow 2-7

Tight enough but good to get a win!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 04:17:32 PM
One of the worst Antrim games I have had the misfortune of seeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2010, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2010, 04:17:32 PM
One of the worst Antrim games I have had the misfortune of seeing.

Give us a wee run down (if you can't relive the memories!!!!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2010, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2010, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2010, 04:17:32 PM
One of the worst Antrim games I have had the misfortune of seeing.

Give us a wee run down (if you can't relive the memories!!!!)
Lawrence Smyth or Tommy McCartney would be better at polishing this turd over on the county guestbook.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
BBC report claims carlow were promotion favourites.

I'd have thought wexford and clare would have something to say about that...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
BBC report claims carlow were promotion favourites.

I'd have thought wexford and clare would have something to say about that...

You can never accuse the BBC of not doing their homework on Gaa matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
Result:

Antrim 1-11 Carlow 2-7

Tight enough but good to get a win!

Skill goes out the window on a day like this. You recall what Antrim did against Carlow on Croker in the 06 Christy Ring final - on a good sod I would have expected the same today. I was in Ballygalget three years ago in a game between Down and Cork which was played in a snowstorm. Cork were lucky to win by two points in a game that was a mixture between hockey and rugby league. Still, I have faith in Dinny - no bullshit from him! - and come championship time he will have the best side firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 09:40:29 PM
The weather wasn't that bad Hurler, it was cold but it wasn't raining or snowing. It was just a shit performance, can only improve I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on February 21, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
From the County Website:

Antrim Hurling fans should be pleased with the way the game went today; accepting that there are some significant absentees and therefore some essential trialling going on; again the game was played in winter conditions. However, as with the senior football panel, some players have had their attention and duty focused elsewhere showing their allegiance to club in the first instance. And here again there are some absences through injury, so all things considered these remaining lads not only worked hard but they also delivered on the day, so all due credit to them.

This match was very much a mixed bag, rather than one of quality hurling, as might be expected much later in the season. But what will go on record is that Antrim Senior hurlers did enough to keep the expectant Carlow forwards at bay and ultimately send them home again  disappointed. Staying power is invariably vitally important in Gaelic games, given the relentless pressure upon players. Staying power is fast becoming a characteristic of Antrim teams and that too was much in evidence again today. Antrim senior teams no longer lack the necessary tenacity and staying power needed in tough battles.

Antrim's half forward line was notably tough and determined today and essentially that dictated the result, when they took overall control of the game. Antrim midfield would appear to have some gaps with remedial work still to do. Carlow were allowed to look a bit too good, too often, in this area. Ball control was evidently more difficult in these harsh conditions but there was some evidence of an apparent Achilles heel, when Carlow scrambled two soft goals by following in on the high ball – Antrim backs were well tested and otherwise stood up to Carlow on many occasions; the soft goals coming only from a mucky melee.

All in all, this was a good day Antrim hurling and the start to the Allianz National Hurling League that Dinny and crew needed; it has many parallels with senior football and was at times a really tough battle for some of these lads but they held their nerve and otherwise coped well against a team expected to win on the day. It just goes to show that nothing can ever be taken for granted and that Antrim hurling is far from dead or in the doldrums; this was a good upset. Well done lads.

Man of the match today went to Barry Mc Faul and he was presented with a watch by Dinny Cahill, on behalf of our main sponsors Creagh Concrete.
Lawrence Smyth Antrim County PRO.



Watches for MOM performances?  More professionalism or just to make sure they get to training on time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 21, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
Anyone got the lineup??

Who were the significant absentees? I don't think there are too many Dunloy players to come back so sound slike a few excuses to cover a poor performance...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 10:36:45 PM
Lawrences eadibg for that piece was "Victory is sweeter when it is least expected"

That is correct Lawrence, 1/5 shots Antrim were not expected to beat Carlow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 10:40:15 PM
The lad Barry McFall was a good 'un from u16 level - good to see him get a run out. Hard to tell how the season will pan out as in my view it is all about being ready come June, July. Cahill never saw the league as anything other than a puckabout. As I said, I have faith that Dinny will have the best 15 on the day - forget the Ulster Final by the way as we need a good southern scalp. Ps - are Limerick or Wexford due Casement way this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 10:52:44 PM
Sorry - just checking. Assuming that Offaly are the opponents at Casement on 30 May, then that is the "Biggie" for me and the real test of the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2010, 11:02:43 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 10:40:15 PM
The lad Barry McFall was a good 'un from u16 level - good to see him get a run out. Hard to tell how the season will pan out as in my view it is all about being ready come June, July. Cahill never saw the league as anything other than a puckabout. As I said, I have faith that Dinny will have the best 15 on the day - forget the Ulster Final by the way as we need a good southern scalp. Ps - are Limerick or Wexford due Casement way this year?

Limerick are in Div 1. Clare is in Casement, Wexford is away. Final game I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
Roll on OFFALY..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sameoldstorey on February 21, 2010, 11:30:30 PM
how would have the game have gone if  had been a neutral referee today. winker would surley have got the line and all the tackles around the neck would surley have been punished.and i am still at odds wat the last free was for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2010, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on February 21, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
Roll on OFFALY..

Offaly are in Div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 22, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
I presume he means the leinster championship.they'll hardly be worried.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2010, 11:06:12 AM
Anyone got the lineup??
Title: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2010/0222/1224264937618.html
Post by: drici on February 22, 2010, 11:31:13 AM
Division 2 - Antrim 1-11 Carlow 2-7: It took an injury-time point from a Liam Watson free to edge Antrim to victory at Casement Park. The home side started in top gear and a 12th minute goal by Martin Scullion had them ahead by 1-4 to 0-1.

Eddie Byrne helped Carlow hit back for points from Andrew Gaule and Paudie Kehoe (two frees) to leave just the goal between the sides on 21 minutes and only three more flags were raised before the beak.

The most important one was for a Carlow goal on 35 minutes when centre-half Eoin Nolan dropped a free from past halfway into the Antrim goalmouth and Craig Doyle knocked the ball home.

Watson landed a point from a placed ball to leave Antrim 1-6 to 1-4 ahead at the break.

Kehoe ghosted in to level the scores after 49 minutes with another Carlow goal, 1-8 to 2-5. Right on full-time Watson cracked over the winner for Antrim.

ANTRIM: C O'Connell; B McFall, N McGarry, N McAuley; A Graffin, K McKeegan, C Herron; M Scullion (1-0), N McManus 0-3, two frees); S McCrory (0-2), C McBride, L Watson (0-4, three frees); S McNaughton (0-2), T McCann, D Hamill. Subs: C McFall for McBride (40 mins), P McGill for Scullion (57 mins).

CARLOW: D Miley; A Corcoran, S Kavanagh (0-1, free), D Shaw; E Coady, E Nolan, R Coady; C Hughes, D Roberts; R Dunbar, E Byrne, M Brennan (0-1); A Gaule (0-2), C Doyle (1-0), P Kehoe (1-3, three frees). Subs: D English for Dunbar (half-time), B Lawlor for Kehoe (61 mins).

Referee: E Hasson (Derry)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 22, 2010, 11:54:57 AM
Liam Watson clearly still hasn't grown up. He should have got the line for a pretty awful pull in the second half. When Antrim need him in tough games can they rely on him to finish the game. I don't think so. But time will tell. It was a poor performance from both sides, but Antrim willbe glad to start off with a win. Also some excellent performances from mccall mckegan and mcmanus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on February 22, 2010, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on February 22, 2010, 11:54:57 AM
Liam Watson clearly still hasn't grown up. He should have got the line for a pretty awful pull in the second half. When Antrim need him in tough games can they rely on him to finish the game. I don't think so. But time will tell. It was a poor performance from both sides, but Antrim willbe glad to start off with a win. Also some excellent performances from mccall mckegan and mcmanus.

Agree with most of that except for the McKeegan part. The Carlow 11 gave him the total runaround in the first half and the second was something similar – maybe not just as bad.

If he had struck the ball earlier instead of heading off these crazy solo runs every time he got the ball he would have done some serious damage.  Exposed McKeegan many times under the dropping ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2010, 12:15:07 PM
Agree Franko, the 11 for Carlow won some amount of ball just didn't use it well when he got it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2010, 12:23:59 PM
KMcK's style of play is very much a loose ball CHB he will drop off the CHF and sweep behind the two wing backs, this works extremely well when you have a midfielder who is switched on enough to drop into the hole and allow KMcK to drop back and cover the other defenders and be available for a handy pass out of defence.
However when the midfielders are under pressure and cant do this extra work and we are up against a CHF with a good brain then we find ourselves in trouble.

Its just the way he plays CHB somedays it works spectacularly and other days it can cost us games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 22, 2010, 12:56:25 PM
I agree that the number 11 won a load of ball first half. But I thought when karl got on the ball he used it well and pretty intelligently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2010, 01:36:25 PM
Exactly my point when he is on the ball he is very good but if the CHF is better on the ball we are trouble.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 22, 2010, 02:38:40 PM
To be honest i think karls is the right way to play CHB, he stays about the forty, keeps the wingbacks covered and has the intelligence on the ball.  Similar to how Pappy played the game, they thing is everyone needs to buy in to that style so the centre half forward has less of an impact, i don't blame i CHB when a CHF gets the ball in the middle of the field, so long as the CHF isn't winning possession further up the field i think the CHB should remain playing in the hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
I didnt say it wasnt the right way to play Max  ;)

I agree with you very similar in styles between the two boys you mentioned though maybe on a different level.

The whole system needs to be bought into by the whole team and this is something that Antrim have struggled with down the years, me thinks there might one or two ego's to many in this current squad but will wait to see.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 22, 2010, 04:03:24 PM
Certainly if the centre back plays deep in front of the fullback line can keep the score down and you'll get away with it against the lesser teams. Also if a team is carrying a particularly good fullforward line it should cut out possession getting that far, but you'll conceed possession further out the field.
Brick Walsh was doing this against Kilkenny this year and was relatively successful at it until Eddie Brennan was dispatched out the field into the space where the Kilkenny backs were able to pick him out and then he in turn fed the wings, away from Walsh, which led to a flurry of scores.

It's a tactic which asks a huge amount of the midfielders, to cover three men in a lot of space as well as the forwards ensuring that the defenders don't get their heads up enough to pick out the spare man.
I'd have hoped that Antrim wouldn't have been that overly concerned about the scoring threat of Carlow even though they're an improving side but maybe Dinny wants to ingrane this tactic for bigger battles ahead.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
Is it the way Karl plays or a tactic though?

Personally I like the job he does at CHB.

I don't think anyone else could play it as well as him bar McManus but we need him elsewhere. If the looseness became a problem Graffin could go in there.

He's our best man marker though so I'd prefer to see him in corner back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2010, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
Is it the way Karl plays or a tactic though?

Personally I like the job he does at CHB.

I don't think anyone else could play it as well as him bar McManus but we need him elsewhere. If the looseness became a problem Graffin could go in there.

He's our best man marker though so I'd prefer to see him in corner back.

I think Graffin ended up there yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 22, 2010, 11:33:22 PM
Karl started playing centre half in Dinnys 1st reign. It was Dinnys tactic that he held his position. Alot of the top centre halfs play like that- Curran,mcgrath-they dont like getting dragged away as it leaves of space in front of the FB. Back in 02 to 04 antrims best line was the HBL with karl,herron & micky monty! Graffin better in the corner,not strong enough for CHB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
Anyone care to pick a championship team from the current squad?
I know its early but just wondering what people are thinking even at this stage.

I'll give it a go.

G McGhee

A Graffin - C Donnelly - B McFall

C Heron - K McKeegan - N McAuley

N McManus --- Simon McCrory

K Stewart - L Watson – P Magill

P Shileds – J McIntosh – S McNaughton


Not overly happy with several selections but thats my first attempt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 23, 2010, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
Anyone care to pick a championship team from the current squad?
I know its early but just wondering what people are thinking even at this stage.

I'll give it a go.

G McGhee

A Graffin - C Donnelly - B McFall

C Heron - K McKeegan - N McAuley

N McManus --- Simon McCrory

K Stewart - L Watson – P Magill

P Shileds – J McIntosh – S McNaughton


Not overly happy with several selections but thats my first attempt.

I'd agree with the majority of that team.  Being a Loughgiel man I'd have places for Johnny Campbell and Neil McGarry in the backline though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 23, 2010, 12:48:56 PM
After last night's county committee meeting an appeal/request from Lamh Dhearg to be entered into Div 2 Hurling was approved - 9 team Div 2 this year - knock on coming lower down the leagues - Cushendun now avoid relegation and stay in Div 3.

in JHC there was no re-draw as St. Brigids Belfast pulled out of adult hurling, and so Cloughmills took their spot in the first round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Where were lamh dhearg meant to be? Had they been relegated or something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 23, 2010, 01:05:55 PM
They were relegated from the large 16 team Div 2/3 a couple of yrs ago and last year could have been promoted if they hadn't tried to call off games etc to ensure their footballers were promoted - hurlers would have been in Div 3 if the appeal had failed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2010, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 23, 2010, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 12:16:11 PM
Anyone care to pick a championship team from the current squad?
I know its early but just wondering what people are thinking even at this stage.

I'll give it a go.

G McGhee

A Graffin - C Donnelly - B McFall

C Heron - K McKeegan - N McAuley

N McManus --- Simon McCrory

K Stewart - L Watson – P Magill

P Shileds – J McIntosh – S McNaughton


Not overly happy with several selections but thats my first attempt.

I'd agree with the majority of that team.  Being a Loughgiel man I'd have places for Johnny Campbell and Neil McGarry in the backline though.

After watching the game at the weekend one thing that I noticed was a severe lack of strength. Thats a very weak full forward line. I would definately have shorty in the team but I heard he was going to take a break, any of the Dunloy lads share a bit on this? Would have shorty at Midfield if he's available. Simon McCrory wing forward with Paddy Richmond in full forward line with Shane and Tosh

Paddy McGill should be no where near it. Hasn't hurled anything for us for quite a while. Wouldnt be sure between Hippy and Neilly at full back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 02:49:17 PM
I take your points on board, I just was going on what was available at the minute.

I heard that PR was quitting and I dont see him putting in another season with the county, its maybe time to try and concentrate on club hurling for him. Could be wrong though.

SMcC has to be moved further out the field this way by the time he actually hits the ball it might go to one of our forwards rather than wide.

Agree with you PM loads of talent with a bit of an attitude problem even for Cushendall.

Full back is a problem went with what I felt was the stronger of the two, both being similar in that they are slow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2010, 03:02:03 PM
I thought Simon was better when he went to MF but I think in long term, shorty is a more intelligent option to back up Neil. Simon also ran around pushing people and getting involved in a serious amount of arguements.

If Magills playing well then he's a good option. Great score taker from play when he's on form, if he's not then you may forget about him.

Kieran McGourty could be put in the full back line with Sean Delargy adamant that he won't return. Hopefully Neil McAuley is over all his injury problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 03:27:02 PM
I think you mean Kevin and I believe he is short is at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2010, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 03:27:02 PM
I think you mean Kevin and I believe he is short is at this level.

No, Kieran that played corner back for Antrim last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
Colonel, my apologies must have read it wrong and was actually thinking of kieran and still stand by my statement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2010, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 23, 2010, 12:48:56 PM
After last night's county committee meeting an appeal/request from Lamh Dhearg to be entered into Div 2 Hurling was approved - 9 team Div 2 this year - knock on coming lower down the leagues - Cushendun now avoid relegation and stay in Div 3.

in JHC there was no re-draw as St. Brigids Belfast pulled out of adult hurling, and so Cloughmills took their spot in the first round.
WHAT!!!!

Lamhs are a good team  and strong for div 3 but what da fook does that say about rules and regulations. if your relegated then you stay down until you win or league structures change, but change for everyone. will st Johns now ask to go up to div one now?

Title: http://www.carlowpeople.ie/sport/hurling/late-free-sinks-carlow-in-antrim-207527
Post by: drici on February 23, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
Late free sinks Carlow in Antrim
ANTRIM 1-11 CARLOW 2-07

(http://www.carlowpeople.ie/multimedia/archive/00517/8ec84856-0a0b-4b02-_517670t.jpg)


Carlow's Eddie Byrne gathers the ball ahead of Aaron Graffin and Neil McManus during the game in Casement Park on Sunday.

By LEO McGOUGH


Tuesday February 23 2010

WHEN you lose an important match by a solitary point the tendency is to focus on the one's that got away, every missed opportunity haunting the vanquished. In the wake of Carlow's heartbreaking first round NHL Division 2 defeat in Casement Park, Belfast we too will analyse the 'what ifs' of a hard fought contest but first let's focus on the positives.

Top of that list would have to be the visitors second goal, as good a team score as the red, yellow and green have ever concocted.

It came fourteen minutes into the second half when trailing by three points, Craig Doyle won possession on half way, close to the stand wing side-line.

'Styler' delivered a long ball down on the Andersonstown Road end posts where Damien Roberts caught the dropping ball on the 20m line. 'Lester' quickly slipped a handpass to the supporting Andrew Gaul to his left and the 'Duke', in turn, hand-passed across goal to the lurking Paudie Kehoe who first timed to the net from the edge of the small square.

Considering a tentative Carlow had trailed 1-4 to 0-1 after 13 minutes and looked set for a bit of a hiding, that goal which levelled proceedings with 20 minutes to go was just reward for the brave manner in which the visitors battled their way back into contention.

Carlow finished the 'hour' with 12 wides, exactly half of which came from placed balls, Paudie Kehoe wayward with three mid-distance frees, Shane Kavanagh winging a long range effort the wrong side of the posts while Mark Brennan and Damien Roberts, from either wing, saw well cut line-balls sail tantalizingly over the end-line.

Hasty shooting accounted for five of the six wides from play while Carlow's only non-shot wide arose when an Eddie Byrne hand-pass to Paudie Kehoe might have yielded a goal only for the heavy sod to the bounce out of the sliotar which rolled over the endline.

That was in the 6th minute of the second half, a minute later Paudie Kehoe saw his overhead flick on a Craig Doyle cross canon off the upright low down.

While admittedly that was a half-chance, the same could be said of Antrim's lone goal, a 12th minute major that bolstered the home county's early dominance.

Unsure first touch on the stand side conceded a 45m line-ball that Neil McManus cut immaculately into the goalmouth, where a ground schemozzle at the far post ended with the sliotar somehow trickling over the line.

That goal supplemented a brace of early points from Neil McManus (a superb long range strike from play) and Shane McNaughton while McManus had also converted a 65. Carlow's lone reply had been an excellent Mark Brennan point from the left wing after Eddie Byrne had fashioned the opening but when within a minute of the goal McNaughton rifled over a sweet point to put the Glensmen 1-4 to 0-1 clear Carlow looked in big trouble.

However Andrew Gaul, in the 15th minute, turned a Mark Brennan hand-pass into a 40m right wing point, his delightful strike off the stick without handling; then Gaul and Byrne won a brace of 45m frees that Paudie Kehoe pointed the margin was down to three.

Carlow survived a double scare in the 23rd minute, captain Eddie Coady preventing an almost certain 'goal' with a crucial intercept and within seconds Craig Doyle got in a vital hook to baulk another shot.

Five minutes later the Carlow backs crowded out the impressive Neil McManus after a loose defensive pass had created the danger though Simon McCrory popped over a point from the resultant short clearance.

With the electronic scoreboard flashing 35 minutes, Carlow won a free on their own 65 which centre half back Eoin Nolan landed down on Antrim square, the sliotar breaking slightly to the right of goal from where Craig Doyle, that opportunist supreme, rattled the net with a rising first time pull.

Liam Watson, in stoppage time, pointed a close range free to give the hosts a 1-6 to 1-4 interval advantage.

Those hopes rose considerably when Paudie Kehoe's well-worked 49th minute goal levelled proceedings, that after he had opened the second half scoring with a point from a 50m free only to see Simon McCrory and Liam Watson (a smashing point from a narrow angle) tack on Antrim scores.

If Carlow could have had two goals in those early second half exchanges, it must be conceded that so too could Antrim, Dessie Shaw taking a rolling ball off the line in the 44rd minute, then getting in an important block when his clearance returned.

Though Carlow's goal tied the sides, Antrim, from the puck-out, won a 60m free that Neil McManus slotted, then Liam Watson from close range restored put the hosts two-up. Great work by Colin Hughes set up Andrew Gaul for a lovely left hand point before the sides were level for the second time in the 63rd minute, the 'Duke' winning a free that Shane Kavanagh, from half way, close to the side-line, arrowed straight between the posts.

It was helter-skelter from there to the finish, Damien Robert's line-cut for the lead drifting wide of the far post, Neil McManus putting an Antrim free wide before a Simon McCrory shot that looked to be dipping over the bar was brought down by Carlow goalkeeper David Miley. Just as a draw was being accepted all round as a fair result Carlow full-back Shane Kavanagh was blown for charging as he attempted to clear from the 20m line. The resultant free in front of the posts was tapped over by Liam Watson. Two minutes of normal time and a further minutes injury time was played but the valiant visitors were unable to get within striking distance of the opposition posts.

- LEO McGOUGH
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 24, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
Anyone got confirmation on the leagues then? Only changes the lambs up and cushendun stay? That's a shock they managed to pull that off. Isn't the chairman...........
Oh never mind.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 24, 2010, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on February 24, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
Anyone got confirmation on the leagues then? Only changes the lambs up and cushendun stay? That's a shock they managed to pull that off. Isn't the chairman...........
Oh never mind.  ;D

That had nothing to do with it
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 24, 2010, 05:30:26 PM
Isn't the Secretary originally a .....................

Too ironic!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 24, 2010, 06:45:07 PM
Are Bredagh still in 4 then??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2010, 08:28:53 PM
look this changing of the teams is a bad move. how this went ahead is beyond me.

whats next?? can Rossa ask to go Div 1? can we drop a league and play in div 3? just silly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on February 25, 2010, 01:51:14 PM
Does nobody know what the league are yet? End of February and it's all a mystrey.

I'll take a guess based on whats been said here:

Div 1 8 teams. Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenariff, Portaferry, Ballygalget, Ballycran

Div 2 9 teams - Rossa, St Johns, St Galls, GNM, St Pauls, Randlestown, Ahoghill, Carey, Lamh Dreag.

Div 3 8 teams - Glenarm, Sarsfields, Armoy, Rasharkin, St Teresas, Cushendun, Cloughmills, Glenravel.

There are still plenty of questions about Div 4!
Are St Bridgets Belfast gone from the league?
What about Larne? Will they be able to field?
Have Ballela (Down) and Colmcilles (Tyrone) been accepted into the league?
Will any reserve teams play in Div 4?

I guess it will be 8 teams - Bredagh, St Agnes, St Enda's, Ballymena, McDermotts, Davitts, Ardoyne, Creggan.
Title: Amhrán
Post by: drici on February 25, 2010, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: Guillem2 on February 25, 2010, 01:51:14 PM

End of February and it's all a mystrey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RnD0eyDQsw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on February 25, 2010, 02:17:45 PM
Fcuk it, seems like teams can now pick what league they want to be in, so we will see cushendall, loughgiel, dunloy, ballycastle, glenariff and the 3 ards teams this year.  ;)  In all seriousness is would it not be fair for all teams to know the craic by now? i heard ballela have been accepted to div4, though that was a few weeks ago.  didnt know that NCC had applied too. how about just puttin all the teams in a hat each week.  play whoever your drawn against.  would be just as organised as this. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 25, 2010, 04:20:12 PM
Guillem. Why would Larne not be able to field? They're ready to take their place in Div 4 along with the rest. St Bridget's, Belfast have withdrawn their hurling team from the league and JHC. The remnants of the Mitchels hurlers who played for them the last couple of years have transferred to McDermott's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 26, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
Dates for club hurling fixtures are out - no actual fixtures as yet, but looking at the dates, the cutoff for leagues is a month earlier this year and looks like most games will be played before end of the summer months in hurling which is good to see.

Someone has decided that the Divisional sides in the SHC should get a fair crack and so the JHC/IHC now takes place in July and is over well before the SHC starts - bit of common sense being used for once.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 26, 2010, 12:20:46 PM
had a look at the dates myself and things look good for the year, seem to be 3/4 matches each month which is great.  Agreed with you ref the Championships, only issue there would be if a team drew their QF they'd have to play Championship 3 weeks on the bounce which might hinder their chances of winning the semi final,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 28, 2010, 04:54:51 PM
From county site from todays game V Kildare- Antrim 1-19. Kildare 2-7

A much improved second-half showing by Antrim saw the Saffrons record their second win in two starts when they beat Kildare by 1-19 to 2-7 in Division 2 of the National Hurling League in Newbridge.
Antrim made heavy weather of it in a low scoring opening half conceding a soft goal in the fourteenth minute when Mark Fitzgerald's shot for a point went all the way to the net. The Lily Whites, under the management of former Kilkenny captain Andy Comerford added two more points through Tony Murphy and David Harney to put Antrim in a spot of bother.
However with Neill McManus beginning to play a commanding role Antrim began to improve and a pointed free by McManus, plus one each from play by Liam Watson and Shane McNaughton meant they trailed by just one at the break.
With the breeze at their backs in the second-half Antrim showed a marked improvement in their play and four unanswered points from Watson (2), McManus and McNaughton put them three clear.  Mark Fitzgerald pulled a point back for the home side but two more points from McManus and McNaughton pulled the Saffrons four clear by the fifty-first minute.
There was a set-back for Antrim when Kildare were awarded a penalty and centre-back Richie Hogan came up to blast it to the net but Antrim hit back within a minute and a great individual goal by man of the match McManus put them firmly back in control.
That score all but ended the Kildare challenge as Watson and McManus added a series of good scores to wrap up a convincing win. Manager Dinny Cahill will be pleased with the win but he will know that the first-half showing will not be good enough next time out against Laois at Casement Park. However if Antrim can maintain their second-half form then that clash with Laois in two weeks time could prove very interesting indeed.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2010, 10:17:05 PM
Good to win 2 league games but not setting the world alight just yet...

How many injuries have we got? Is Johnny Tosh injured or is he in the squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 28, 2010, 10:25:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 28, 2010, 10:17:05 PM
Good to win 2 league games but not setting the world alight just yet...

How many injuries have we got? Is Johnny Tosh injured or is he in the squad?

He isn't injured and is in the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2010, 10:30:23 PM
Oh right - I would have thought he'd have been on in the full forward line. Maybe Dinny has other ideas.

He'll be needed against Wexford / Clare anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 28, 2010, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 28, 2010, 10:30:23 PM
Oh right - I would have thought he'd have been on in the full forward line. Maybe Dinny has other ideas.

He'll be needed against Wexford / Clare anyway.

I don't think he was on today. He was called to go on for the last 30 seconds against Carlow but didn't make it on in time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 28, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
anyone know the team from today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 28, 2010, 11:27:21 PM
Heard Tosh wasnt in the 24 to travel to Kildare & walked out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 11:29:57 AM
Still no idea of the team on Sunday?
Title: http://gaelicrising.eircom.net/News/hurling/antrimearnhard-foughtwinatkildare.as
Post by: drici on March 02, 2010, 11:53:24 AM
Antrim Earn Hard Fought Win at Kildare


Antrim 1-19 Kildare 2-07

It took them a while to get going but Antrim eventually imposed themselves to make the long trip to Newbridge pay with a hard-fought victory over Kildare today.

The game never got going in the first half, with both sides looking lethargic and lacking touch.

Antrim opened the scoring with an early free from Liam Watson but Lorcan Harney responded in kind, and might have had a goal as well but his mis-hit ground shot bobbled harmlessly wide.

The visitors looked to be getting a grip on proceedings when the ultra-sharp PJ O'Connell and Eddie McCloskey slotted nice points.

Kildare got a huge boost though when Martin Fitzgerald's speculative shot from 30m flew into the net off the fingers of unfortunate Antrim goalkeeper, Ryan McGarry in the ninth minute.

Neil McManus landed a free in response and then saw two piledrivers saved magnificently by Kildare netminder Paul Dermody.

Suitably encouraged, the hosts notched up a couple of points from Tony Murphy and a Harney free from 65m and another Harney free just before the break gave them a 0-7 to 1-5 interval lead.

Dinny Cahill kept Antrim in the dressing room for a lengthy period at half time and whatever was said certainly seemed to have an impact as the Saffron men stormed out of the traps with four points in 80 seconds.

Shane McNaughton was outstanding at midfield for Antrim and he began the flourish with a fine score on the run.

Martin Fitzgerald stopped the rot with a neat finish and when Richie Hoban lashed a penalty to the roof of the net in the 43rd minute, a shock result looked a possibility.

Crucially though, McManus struck the net at the other end of the field within a minute of Hoban's strike and from there to the end, there was only one team in it.

Antrim had the wind in their favour in that second half and they used it to provide an exhibition of scoring in the final quarter.

Neil McManus and Liam Watson were responsible for all of them, sharing the remaining six points between them. Indeed the duo's aggregate tally came to 1-14 and Kildare had no answer to their threat.

Salt was rubbed into the Lilies' wounds when wing-back Eanna O'Neill received his second yellow card, leaving them down to 14 men for the last five minutes.

Antrim: R McGarry; S Shannon, N McGarry, B McFall; A Graffan, K McKeegan, C Herron; S McNaughton 0-3, S McCrory; T McCann, N McManus 1-7(0-6fs), C McFall; E McCloskey 0-1, L Watson 0-7(3fs), PJ O'Connell 0-1. Subs: M Scullion for Shannon (ht); C McAllister for McCloskey (49)

Kildare: P Dermody; P Curtin, D Ryan, P Keegan; P Reidy, R Hoban 1-0(pen), E O'Neill; M Divilly, N Ó Muineacháin; T Murphy 0-2, D Kennedy, D Harney; L Harney 0-2(fs), M Moloney, M Fitzgerald 1-2. Subs: C Buggy for Divilly (ht); J Houlihan for Harney (33); D Carter for L Harney (37); P Bugy for Moloney (50)

Referee: S Whelan (Wexford)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
Shane playing midfield seems very strange. He got three points which obviously was good but a funny selection there. No surprise Colm McBride was dropped. Is that Conor McAllister from Glenariffe who came on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2010, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
Shane playing midfield seems very strange. He got three points which obviously was good but a funny selection there. No surprise Colm McBride was dropped. Is that Conor McAllister from Glenariffe who came on?

Aye he was asked up just before the Carlow game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2010, 04:33:49 PM
What's McCann like? Any use?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
McCann caught a few good balls when he moved to wing forward against Carlow. I'd say thats why he moved out for Kildare game.

Is Conor worth a place Minder in your opinion. Thought Tosh would have been more use. Dinny certainly is confusing people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2010, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
McCann caught a few good balls when he moved to wing forward against Carlow. I'd say thats why he moved out for Kildare game.

Is Conor worth a place Minder in your opinion. Thought Tosh would have been more use. Dinny certainly is confusing people

From what I heard he was one of our better ones last year and was very good against Dunloy in the championship semi final. I always thought he was short of a yard of pace for inter county hurling but then I think we get carried away in Antrim sometimes about the quality of player we should have on the team. He is certainly worth a try as I believe he has as much ability as a lot of them already there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 04:53:26 PM
again he's a lightweight player but haven't really ever seen him (other than against us and never impressed).

Serious high turnover of players in last couple of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 04:53:26 PM
again he's a lightweight player but haven't really ever seen him (other than against us and never impressed).

Serious high turnover of players in last couple of years

In fairness Colonel he has fairly built himself up in the last 18mths. I would say he is worth a try I suppose and he is on a par or better than some that are already on the panel, in my opinion. If he makes it we can put it down to his Glenariffe genes and if he doesent we can attribute it to his Cushendall genes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 02, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 02, 2010, 04:53:26 PM
again he's a lightweight player but haven't really ever seen him (other than against us and never impressed).

Serious high turnover of players in last couple of years

In fairness Colonel he has fairly built himself up in the last 18mths. I would say he is worth a try I suppose and he is on a par or better than some that are already on the panel, in my opinion. If he makes it we can put it down to his Glenariffe genes and if he doesent we can attribute it to his Cushendall genes.

In fairness he did spend his early years in Cushendall and there is more hurling genes in the fathers side ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: http://www.leinsterleader.ie/gaa/Antrim-defeat-Kildare-in-National.6119270.jp
Post by: drici on March 05, 2010, 12:41:25 AM
National Hurling League Division 2 Round 2

Kildare: 2-07
Antrim 1-19

WHAT was expected to be a one-sided affair in Newbridge might at a glance of the scoreline have looked like that, but it was only in the final quarter that Antrim really imposed their will on this game.
Up until Neil McManus' 44th minute goal, Kildare were right on the Ulster side's coat-tails and indeed at half time, there was a sense that the hosts could spring a major shock, even if they were to face into the wind after the resumption.

For the Ulster men were not firing, due in no small part to the constant harrying and hassling of the Kildare players and in particular the defence, in which David Ryan and Paul Keegan had fine games.

They never really managed enough of a scoring threat however, although Tony Murphy and Martin Fitzgerald looked lively and had their moments.
In the end Antrim were just too streetwise, too quick, too cute and had a greater ability to shoot scores from distance.

There is a big step up in the pace of a game from playing Meath, Kerry and Mayo, to taking on a side like Antrim. That was very evident in the opening 10 minutes when five Kildare players - defenders and attackers - were blocked attempting a clearance or shot.

That is the learning curve of Division 2 however. There will be tough days but Carlow are an example of a side that used a similar experience to their benefit.

One lesson is that they must avail of the opportunities created at this level. In the first half, which they had the better of for around 20 minutes, they wasted some glorious opportunities.

To be fair, Antrim had some bad wides too, Liam Watson fluffing a close-in free that had to be seen to be believed.

Watson really cut loose after the interval though, when switched off the commanding Ryan, and finished with seven points, four of which came from play. With Neil McManus adding 1-7 and midfielder Shane McNaughton lofting three glorious points from play, Antrim built a tally that Kildare never looked like matching.

Something else management will undoubtedly look at is the number of scores Antrim got from frees – nine points. That tally could have been higher as McManus' radar went a bit askew in the first half as well.

Antrim opened the scoring with an early free from Watson but Lorcan Harney responded in kind, and might have had a goal as well but his mis-hit ground shot bobbled harmlessly wide.

The visitors looked to be getting a grip on proceedings when the ultra-sharp PJ O'Connell and Eddie McCloskey slotted nice points.

Kildare got a huge boost though when Fitzgerald's speculative shot from 30m flew into the net off the fingers of unfortunate Antrim goalkeeper, Ryan McGarry in the ninth minute.

McManus landed a free in response and then saw two piledrivers saved magnificently by Kildare netminder Paul Dermody.

Suitably encouraged, the hosts notched up a couple of points from Murphy and a Harney free from 65m and another Harney free just before the break gave them a 1-5 to 0-7 interval lead.

Dinny Cahill kept Antrim in the dressing room for a lengthy period at half time and whatever was said certainly seemed to have an impact as the Saffron men stormed out of the traps with four points in 80 seconds.
McNaughton began the flourish with a fine score on the run. Frees from Watson and McManus followed before Watson suddenly had his side three points clear.

Martin Fitzgerald stopped the rot with a neat finish but McManus (free and a wonder score by McNaughton from inside his half stretched the advantage further.

Kildare were given a lifeline when referee Seán Whelan awarded them a penalty, possibly for a tug on David Kennedy, and when Richie Hoban lashed a penalty to the roof of the net in the 43rd minute, the margin was down to the minimum.

Crucially though, McManus struck the net at the other end of the field within a minute of Hoban's strike. Ryan had given an eye-catching performance until then, but will be very disappointed by the ease with which the Antrim man danced around him, leaving Dermody with no chance.

From there to the end, it was one-way traffic. Kildare were deflated and Antrim used the wind to provide a scoring exhibition.

McManus and Watson shared their side's last six points evenly between them, the only riposte coming from Fitzgerald.

Salt was rubbed into the Lilies' wounds when wing-back Eanna O'Neill received his second yellow card, leaving them down to 14 men for the last five minutes.

Antrim:
Ryan McGarry; Stephen Shannon, Neil McGarry, Barry McFall; Aaron Graffan, Karl McKeegan, Ciarab Herron; Shane McNaughton 0-3, Simon McCrory; Thomas McCann, Neil McManus 1-7(0-6fs), Colm McFall; Eddie McCloskey 0-1, Liam Watson 0-7(3fs), PJ O'Connell 0-1. Subs: Martin Scullion for Shannon (ht); Conor McAllister for McCloskey (49)
Kildare:
Paul Dermody; Patrick Curtin, David Ryan, Paul Keegan; Paudie Reidy, Richie Hoban 1-0(pen), Éanna O'Neill; Michael Divilly, Neil Ó Muineacháin; Tony Murphy 0-2, David Kennedy, David Harney; Lorcan Harney 0-2(fs), Mark Moloney, Martin Fitzgerald 1-2. Subs: Colm Buggy for Divilly inj. (ht); John Houlihan for Harney (33); David Carter for L Harney (37); Paul Buggy for Moloney (50).

Referee:
S. Whelan (Wexford)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 05, 2010, 02:34:37 PM
Antrim Division 1 Hurling                  

Round 1   21/04/2010         Round 2   25/04/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballycastle      Portaferry    v    Dunloy
Glenariffe    v    Ballygalget      Loughgiel    v    Ballygalget
Ballycran    v    Portaferry      Cushendall    v    Ballycastle
Cushendall    v    Loughgiel      Ballycran    v    Glenariffe

Round 3   08/05/2010         Round 4   12/05/2010   
Dunloy    v    Loughgiel      Cushendall    v    Dunloy
Portaferry    v    Cushendall      Ballycran    v    Loughgiel
Ballygalget    v    Ballycran      Glenariffe    v    Portaferry
Ballycastle    v    Glenariffe      Ballycastle    v    Ballygalget
                  
Round 5   23/05/2010         Round 6   06/06/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballygalget      Glenariffe    v    Dunloy
Ballycastle    v    Portaferry      Ballycastle    v    Ballycran
Glenariffe    v    Loughgiel      Ballygalget    v    Cushendall
Ballycran    v    Cushendall      Portaferry    v    Loughgiel
                  
Round 7   13/06/2010         Round 8   20/06/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballycran      Ballycastle    v    Dunloy
Cushendall    v    Glenariffe      Ballygalget    v    Glenariffe
Loughgiel    v    Ballycastle      Portaferry    v    Ballycran
Portaferry    v    Ballygalget      Loughgiel    v    Cushendall
                  
Round 9   07/07/2010         Round 10   11/07/2010   
Dunloy    v    Portaferry      Loughgiel    v    Dunloy
Ballygalget    v    Loughgiel      Cushendall    v    Portaferry
Ballycastle    v    Cushendall      Ballycran    v    Ballygalget
Glenariffe    v    Ballycran      Glenariffe    v    Ballycastle

Round 11   18/07/2010         Round 12   04/08/2010   
Dunloy    v    Cushendall      Ballygalget    v    Dunloy
Loughgiel    v    Ballycran      Portaferry    v    Ballycastle
Portaferry    v    Glenariffe      Loughgiel    v    Glenariffe
Ballygalget    v    Ballycastle      Cushendall    v    Ballycran
                  
Round 13   08/08/2010         Round 14   22/08/2010   
Dunloy    v    Glenariffe      Ballycran    v    Dunloy
Ballycran    v    Ballycastle      Glenariffe    v    Cushendall
Cushendall    v    Ballygalget      Ballycastle    v    Loughgiel
Loughgiel    v    Portaferry      Ballygalget    v    Portaferry


Antrim Division 2 Hurling                  

Round 1   07/04/2010         Round 2   21/04/2010   
Tír Na nÓg    v    Clooney Gaels      Rossa    v    St. Pauls
St. Pauls    v    Carey      Lámh Dhearg    v    Tír Na nÓg
St. Johns    v    Lámh Dhearg      Carey    v    St. Galls
St. Galls    v    Gort Na Móna      Gort Na Móna    v    St. Johns
Rossa   Bye         Clooney Gaels   Bye   

Round 3   25/04/2010         Round 4   08/05/2010   
Clooney Gaels    v    Lámh Dhearg      St. Pauls    v    St. Galls
St. Galls    v    Rossa      Gort Na Móna    v    Clooney Gaels
Tír Na nÓg    v    Gort Na Móna      Rossa    v    St. Johns
St. Johns    v    Carey      Carey    v    Tír Na nÓg
St. Paul's   Bye         Lámh Dhearg   Bye   
                  
Round 5   12/05/2010         Round 6   19/05/2010   
Lámh Dhearg    v    Gort Na Móna      St. Galls    v    St. Johns
St. Johns    v    St. Pauls      Carey    v    Lámh Dhearg
Clooney Gaels    v    Carey      St. Pauls    v    Tír Na nÓg
Tír Na nÓg    v    Rossa      Rossa    v    Clooney Gaels
St. Gall's   Bye         Gort Na Móna   Bye   
                  
Round 7   06/06/2010         Round 8   30/06/2010   
Gort Na Móna    v    Carey      St. Johns    v    Tír Na nÓg
Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Galls      Rossa    v    Gort Na Móna
Lámh Dhearg    v    Rossa      St. Galls    v    Clooney Gaels
Clooney Gaels    v    St. Pauls      St. Pauls    v    Lámh Dhearg
St. John's   Bye         Carey   Bye   
                  
Round 9   18/07/2010         Round 10   04/08/2010   
Carey    v    Rossa      Clooney Gaels    v    Tír Na nÓg
Clooney Gaels    v    St. Johns      Carey    v    St. Pauls
Gort Na Móna    v    St. Pauls      Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Johns
Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Galls      Gort Na Móna    v    St. Galls
Tír Na nÓg   Bye         Rossa   Bye   
                  
Round 11   11/08/2010         Round 12   15/08/2010   
St. Pauls    v    Rossa      Lámh Dhearg    v    Clooney Gaels
Tír Na nÓg    v    Lámh Dhearg      Rossa    v    St. Galls
St. Galls    v    Carey      Gort Na Móna    v    Tír Na nÓg
St. Johns    v    Gort Na Móna      Carey    v    St. Johns
Clooney Gaels   Bye         St. Paul's   Bye   

Round 13   18/08/2010         Round 14   22/08/2010   
St. Galls    v    St. Pauls      Gort Na Móna    v    Lámh Dhearg
Clooney Gaels    v    Gort Na Móna      St. Pauls    v    St. Johns
St. Johns    v    Rossa      Carey    v    Clooney Gaels
Tír Na nÓg    v    Carey      Rossa    v    Tír Na nÓg
Lámh Dhearg   Bye         St. Gall's   Bye   

Round 15   28/08/2010         Round 16   11/09/2010   
St. Johns    v    St. Galls      Carey    v    Gort Na Móna
Lámh Dhearg    v    Carey      St. Galls    v    Tír Na nÓg
Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Pauls      Rossa    v    Lámh Dhearg
Clooney Gaels    v    Rossa      St. Pauls    v    Clooney Gaels
Gort na Móna   Bye         St. John's   Bye   
                  
Round 17   18/09/2010         Round 18   25/09/2010   
Tír Na nÓg    v    St. Johns      Rossa    v    Carey
Gort Na Móna    v    Rossa      St. Johns    v    Clooney Gaels
Clooney Gaels    v    St. Galls      St. Pauls    v    Gort Na Móna
Lámh Dhearg    v    St. Pauls      St. Galls    v    Lámh Dhearg
Carey   Bye         Tír Na nÓg   Bye   


Antrim Division 3 Hurling                  

Round 1   21/04/2010         Round 2   25/04/2010   
Sarsfields    v    St. Teresas      St. Teresas    v    Shane O'Neills
Cushendun    v    Shane O'Neills      Cloughmills    v    Sarsfields
Rasharkin    v    Cloughmills      Armoy    v    Cushendun
Glenravel    v    Armoy      Glenravel    v    Rasharkin
                  
Round 3   08/05/2010         Round 4   12/05/2010   
St. Teresas    v    Cushendun      Rasharkin    v    St. Teresas
Sarsfields    v    Rasharkin      Glenravel    v    Cushendun
Shane O'Neills    v    Glenravel      Armoy    v    Sarsfields
Cloughmills    v    Armoy      Cloughmills    v    Shane O'Neills
                  
Round 5   19/05/2010         Round 6   06/06/2010   
St. Teresas    v    Glenravel      Armoy    v    St. Teresas
Rasharkin    v    Armoy      Cloughmills    v    Glenravel
Cushendun    v    Cloughmills      Shane O'Neills    v    Rasharkin
Sarsfields    v    Shane O'Neills      Sarsfields    v    Cushendun
                  
Round 7   30/06/2010         Round 8   18/07/2010   
St. Teresas    v    Cloughmills      St. Teresas    v    Sarsfields
Armoy    v    Shane O'Neills      Shane O'Neills    v    Cushendun
Glenravel    v    Sarsfields      Cloughmills    v    Rasharkin
Rasharkin    v    Cushendun      Armoy    v    Glenravel
                  
Round 9   04/08/2010         Round 10   11/08/2010   
Shane O'Neills    v    St. Teresas      Cushendun    v    St. Teresas
Sarsfields    v    Cloughmills      Rasharkin    v    Sarsfields
Cushendun    v    Armoy      Glenravel    v    Shane O'Neills
Rasharkin    v    Glenravel      Armoy    v    Cloughmills
                  
Round 11   15/08/2010         Round 12   18/08/2010   
St. Teresas    v    Rasharkin      Glenravel    v    St. Teresas
Cushendun    v    Glenravel      Armoy    v    Rasharkin
Sarsfields    v    Armoy      Cloughmills    v    Cushendun
Shane O'Neills    v    Cloughmills      Shane O'Neills    v    Sarsfields
                  
Round 13   22/08/2010         Round 14   28/08/2010   
St. Teresas    v    Armoy      Cloughmills    v    St. Teresas
Glenravel    v    Cloughmills      Shane O'Neills    v    Armoy
Rasharkin    v    Shane O'Neills      Sarsfields    v    Glenravel
Cushendun    v    Sarsfields      Cushendun    v    Rasharkin

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 05, 2010, 04:37:03 PM
I take it you play for a Div3 side CHB ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on March 05, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
A logical, well arranged and sensible fixture list. Chances of happening? ZERO!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 05, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
anyone got the fixtures for div 4? Last man have you got them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 05, 2010, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on March 05, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
anyone got the fixtures for div 4? Last man have you got them?
Not yet BG, our sec is normally pretty sharp at getting the info out, so I'd say we are still waiting.
Title: Div 4A & 4B Hurling Leagues
Post by: aontroim on March 05, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
Here you go bg...the rest of the hurling and all the football are available to download from the administration section on the Antrim website.

Antrim Division 4A Hurling                  
                  
Round 1   21/04/2010         Round 2   25/04/2010   
St. Endas    v    St. Galls 2              Bredagh    v    St. Endas
All Saints    v    Bredagh              McDermotts    v    St. Galls 2
St. Agnes    v    McDermotts      St. Agnes    v    All Saints
                  
Round 3   08/05/2010         Round 4   12/05/2010   
St. Endas    v    McDermotts      St. Agnes    v    St. Endas
Bredagh    v    St. Agnes              All Saints    v    McDermotts
St. Galls 2    v    All Saints              St. Galls 2    v    Bredagh
                  
Round 5   19/05/2010         Round 6   06/06/2010   
St. Endas    v    All Saints              St. Galls 2    v    St. Endas
St. Agnes    v    St. Galls 2              Bredagh    v    All Saints
McDermotts    v    Bredagh      McDermotts    v    St. Agnes
                  
Round 7   30/06/2010         Round 8   18/07/2010   
St. Endas    v    Bredagh              McDermotts    v    St. Endas
St. Galls 2    v    McDermotts      St. Agnes    v    Bredagh
All Saints    v    St. Agnes              All Saints    v    St. Galls 2
                  
Round 9   04/08/2010         Round 10   15/08/2010   
St. Endas    v    St. Agnes              All Saints    v    St. Endas
McDermotts    v    All Saints      St. Galls 2    v    St. Agnes
Bredagh    v    St. Galls 2              Bredagh    v    McDermotts

Antrim Division 4B Hurling                  
                  
Round 1   21/04/2010         Round 2   25/04/2010   
Davitts    v    Creggan              Creggan    v    Latharna Óg
Ardoyne    v    Latharna Óg      Davitts    v    Ballela
Ballela   Bye                         Ardoyne   Bye   
                  
Round 3   08/05/2010         Round 4   12/05/2010   
Ardoyne    v    Davitts              Latharna Óg    v    Ballela
Ballela    v    Creggan              Creggan    v    Ardoyne
Latharna Óg   Bye                 Davitts   Bye   
                  
Round 5   19/05/2010         Round 6   06/06/2010   
Ballela    v    Ardoyne              Creggan    v    Davitts
Latharna Óg    v    Davitts      Latharna Óg    v    Ardoyne
Creggan   Bye                         Ballela   Bye   
                  
Round 7   30/06/2010         Round 8   18/07/2010   
Latharna Óg    v    Creggan      Davitts    v    Ardoyne
Ballela    v    Davitts              Creggan    v    Ballela
Ardoyne   Bye                         Latharna Óg   Bye   
                  
Round 9   04/08/2010         Round 10   15/08/2010   
Ballela    v    Latharna Óg      Ardoyne    v    Ballela
Ardoyne    v    Creggan              Davitts    v    Latharna Óg
Davitts   Bye                         Creggan   Bye   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on March 05, 2010, 11:05:31 PM
cant wait to see how the down teams in div 4 are goin to field two teams on the one nite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 06, 2010, 01:25:43 AM
Thanks for putting that up. We managed it alrite last year so I'd say we will do alrite this year too. Wonder will the league actually finish when it's meant to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2010, 11:00:47 AM
with the 'extra' team in Div 2 it will give our second team a chance to field a strong team and be competitive. some of our older players may pack it in this year, i hope they don't as the gap between some of our better juveniles is too big and they  will need a bedding in period.

i will be looking forward to playing in divison 4 this year. standing on sideline keek.

all in all good league fixtures and i hope it all goes well. this is the sort of fixtures timetable that i was looking for.

my first game is against Last man!!! hope your still knocking a ball about ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 06, 2010, 10:11:05 PM
Still doing a wee bit Milltown, put in 60mins against Armoy in the Ulster league but we were short a few. Held them rightly until leaking 3 soft goals in the last 5 or 10 mins. Not sure I'll start against yous, hopefully our younger fellas will keep me on the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 08, 2010, 10:28:06 AM
Quote from: THE DADGA on March 05, 2010, 11:05:31 PM
cant wait to see how the down teams in div 4 are goin to field two teams on the one nite.

Really can't see Ballela managing it though as they've always struggled with numbers so their secretary will be fairly busy rearranging I'd say.

Forgot to say, the ards clubs certainly won't be able to put out three let alone 4 teams in the one night if there's reserve hurling in Antrim.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 08, 2010, 03:11:35 PM
And herein lies the problem - Down teams (or any other team from outside Antrim) should be prepared to take fixtures as they are given if they want to enter Antrim leagues - Antrim being a dual county can't afford to tailor fixtures for teams outside the county, to the detriment of Antrim clubs.

If the standard of competition within their own counties is not what Down/Tyrone clubs etc need and ask to enter Antrim leagues then make them the priority.

This isn't a rant though it may read like one - just a personal opinion that Antrim fixtures shouldn't be held to ransom for others.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 08, 2010, 03:34:23 PM
Yeah I would agree with you there Aontrom but infairness I would say that the 3 Ards clubs are amongst the best travelers in the Divisions and very very rarely would there be any problems with games involving them.

Think this year it is time to try to have a special effort from all clubs to fulfill their fixtures on time. Less of the short sightedness of calling a a game off cos wee jonhny is away on holidays! Time to start to think of the 29 (if not more) other guys that will be sitting around with no game instead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 08, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
Agree entirely thats its time the clubs make a big effort to ensure these games run off as scheduled, equally i would say their is am onus on the County Management to ensure that the majority of games feature the strong teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 08, 2010, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 08, 2010, 03:11:35 PM
And herein lies the problem - Down teams (or any other team from outside Antrim) should be prepared to take fixtures as they are given if they want to enter Antrim leagues - Antrim being a dual county can't afford to tailor fixtures for teams outside the county, to the detriment of Antrim clubs.

If the standard of competition within their own counties is not what Down/Tyrone clubs etc need and ask to enter Antrim leagues then make them the priority.

This isn't a rant though it may read like one - just a personal opinion that Antrim fixtures shouldn't be held to ransom for others.

Certainly in Ballygalget Antrim fixtures take priority over Down fixtures and that's cost us games last year when there's been double booking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on March 08, 2010, 05:13:15 PM
Same for Bredagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 10, 2010, 09:06:48 AM
Big grudge match for them too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Guillem2 on March 10, 2010, 01:36:35 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2244 (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=2244)

This will hurt a lot of clubs if they don't get it sorted. The likes of Cushendall would lift a few quid at a home Div 1 game. Maybe Frankie will dig out the whistle again?

Plus the Down teams are hard to beat down there. If they have to play all their games away Ballygalget & Ballycran will struggle to stay in Div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
Its something we have struggled with over the years to be fair. Our love of the county board is as strong as Celtic's love of the Scottish Football Association so although I thought we had the problem resolved I can't imagine there is a way back coming from the tone of the county site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 10, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
County panels will no doubt be affected by these strong arm tactics. Surely a period of diplomacy should be given to allow clubs time to resolve. There'll be a few humpy heads over this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 10, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
County panels will no doubt be affected by these strong arm tactics. Surely a period of diplomacy should be given to allow clubs time to resolve. There'll be a few humpy heads over this one

clubs like ourselves who have provided many players to the county panels, sold hundreds of saffron sweep tickets and provided mentors for teams and development squads are going to kick up I'm sure. We have over a number of years been strong supporters of county panels to our own detriment. Are club are continually annoyed with the way Antrim has conducted itself over various things and this will only add fuel to the fire
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 10, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
County panels will no doubt be affected by these strong arm tactics. Surely a period of diplomacy should be given to allow clubs time to resolve. There'll be a few humpy heads over this one

clubs like ourselves who have provided many players to the county panels, sold hundreds of saffron sweep tickets and provided mentors for teams and development squads are going to kick up I'm sure. We have over a number of years been strong supporters of county panels to our own detriment. Are club are continually annoyed with the way Antrim has conducted itself over various things and this will only add fuel to the fire
Thats shite talk Colonel. a lot of clubs could claim that (county players) we have done that for many years but still manage to provide referees
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on March 10, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 10, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
County panels will no doubt be affected by these strong arm tactics. Surely a period of diplomacy should be given to allow clubs time to resolve. There'll be a few humpy heads over this one

clubs like ourselves who have provided many players to the county panels, sold hundreds of saffron sweep tickets and provided mentors for teams and development squads are going to kick up I'm sure. We have over a number of years been strong supporters of county panels to our own detriment. Are club are continually annoyed with the way Antrim has conducted itself over various things and this will only add fuel to the fire
Thats shite talk Colonel. a lot of clubs could claim that (county players) we have done that for many years but still manage to provide referees

So, what you're saying is, its ok for mccrackens to lose their home advantage because they haven't done as much for the cause recently? Careful there colonel, you nearly sound like rossa when they appealed relegation on grounds of "services to the county."

Take your oil.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
my main point is while we continue to feed in dedicated, committed players other players come along and show no where near commitment of our players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 11, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 10, 2010, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
my main point is while we continue to feed in dedicated, committed players other players come along and show no where near commitment of our players
The point is that clubs need to feed dedicated, committed referees though.

Cushedall have at least 2 referees this year, however none attended the meeting and therefore they have been put down the same as all the other teams who don't have any referees.  I'd say Cushendall won't be the only team in this boat and I wouldn't expect them to lose home advantage for any game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 11, 2010, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: gelvis on March 11, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 10, 2010, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 10, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
my main point is while we continue to feed in dedicated, committed players other players come along and show no where near commitment of our players
The point is that clubs need to feed dedicated, committed referees though.

Cushedall have at least 2 referees this year, however none attended the meeting and therefore they have been put down the same as all the other teams who don't have any referees.  I'd say Cushendall won't be the only team in this boat and I wouldn't expect them to lose home advantage for any game.

We had one lad refereed a bit last year in Antrim, not sure if he's either given it up or didn't attend the meeting.

Ballycran surprises me as Hugh Torney refereed a good bit in Antrim last year and I'd say he probably just didn't go to the meeting rather than pack in the refereeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on March 11, 2010, 05:05:52 PM
Referees from outside Antrim don't attend the meeting. They must attend their own county meeting & tests.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Uladhabu on March 11, 2010, 07:17:34 PM
Was talking to an Antrim Referee today who said the meeting was a shambles, rag tag outfit was his exact words, half of them didn't know the rules..... He said he the county secretary is giving the refs committee and everyone else a hard time won't let anyone but himself make the decisions on Referees gear! He made the point that clubs pay for the Refs gear and what the F**k has it got to do with him? Possible strike action by the Refs looming if the county secretary forgets his place and doesn't  stay the F**k out of it! His words lads not mine. Sounds like Antrims got it's own internal problems?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2010, 09:35:18 AM
Lads,

The referees were told they wouldnt be getting any new kit for the year and the old uniforms were to do them.

And best of all they were told that they were not being given a copy of the new rule book (£10.00) as it was too much money.

So at least it will be accurate when someone shouts at the ref this year 'you havent even seen a rule book'

Would anyone here get involved if thats the level of support you were being affored for giving up your time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Uladhabu on March 12, 2010, 09:57:22 AM
Nag1, would agree. Can i just say that the rules can be downloaded as a PDF from the croke park website, but by the sounds of it the County Secretary needs to made accountable to the committee in charge. The lad( Referee) was telling me he has took over the watch tower in casement as his office, and that his off spring is running around with new gear on and allegedly distributing it to his close friends?????? This lad has never had anything to do with the GAA and never played, apart from the odd game of snooker in the social club. Referees do need support imo, but at the same time they need to be seen to be making a stronger effort as a group which indications are they are not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2010, 10:09:50 AM
Cart and Horse syndrome

Why would anyone get involved with a group that is treated in this way?

If they are treated in this manner what is the onus on them to improve?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
Paddy Power

Antrim 4/7 Draw 10/1 Laois 6/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 12, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
Antrim Panel for the Laois game:

1 Gareth Mc Gee
2 Arron Graffin
3 Cormac Donnelly
4 Barry McFall
5 Simon Mc Crory
6 Karl McKeegan
7 Ciaran Herron
8 Paul Shields
9 Shane McNaughton
10 Liam Watson
11 Neil McManus
12 Paddy Mc Gill
13 Darren Hamill
14 Thomas McCann
15 PJ O Connell

Subs
16 Chris O Connell
17 Neil Mc Garry
18 Paudie Shivers
19 Conor  Mc Allister
20 James McKeague
21 Aaron Smiley
22 Eddie McCloskey
23 Neill Mc Auley
24 Colm McFall


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2010, 10:19:50 PM
Wouldnt be mad about that FF line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 12, 2010, 10:48:59 PM
Simon McCrory at wing half back ahead of Neil McAuley? For once in my life I agree with minder, that full forward line does not overly impress. Good to see Paul Shields back but would him and Shane McNaughten have the height and physique to make an intercounty midfield? Not especially hopeful but at least we are at home and it is good to see McGee and Shields back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 12, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
So has Tosh definitely left the panel then or what?  If so, I cant believe he wasn't given a chance compared to some of whats left on there.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2010, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 12, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
So has Tosh definitely left the panel then or what?  If so, I cant believe he wasn't given a chance compared to some of whats left on there.  ???

Definetly left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 13, 2010, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 12, 2010, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 12, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
So has Tosh definitely left the panel then or what?  If so, I cant believe he wasn't given a chance compared to some of whats left on there.  ???

Definetly left.

FFS  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 13, 2010, 04:43:44 PM
Good result for CPC Ballycastle this afternoon in the B colleges semi against Loughrea.

CPC led 13 to 6 at half time and were well worth the lead.

Loughrea came back at them a bit in the second half and had it down to 4 with about 5 to go when Clarke got a goal that killed them off - final score 2 18 to 1 14.

Some great score-taking from CPC who were both strong throughout the field and playing to a definite patterns, with both forwards making runs and the backs expecting forwards to make runs.

Fair play to Ballycastle - here's hoping they make a double.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 13, 2010, 08:57:13 PM
Well done to CPC. Is that the fourth time in five years that an ulster side has got to the all ireland colleges final? Ballycastle have done two back to back and I know St pats Maghera won one a few years back also. I had a vague recollection of St Marys Belfast loosing a final three or four years ago but I could be wrong on that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 13, 2010, 10:08:47 PM
Yes congrats to CPC and best of luck in the final which i hear is against Dungarvan CBS on March 27. Its actually the 5th year in a row and maybe the 6th in 7 years that the Ulster champions have made the B Colleges final. St Pats won it in 06 (they lost one in 04 i think), CPC lost in 07 to Bunclody, St Marys lost in 08 to Lismore, CPC won it last year and have made it through again today. Its the kind of run that might put the Ulster reps under pressure in future years to go back up to the "A" competiton.

Antrim hopefully will get a win tomorrow to set up the Clare match nicely next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
Anyone at it and was it as dire as a 10 pt defeat sounds?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 14, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 14, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
Anyone at it and was it as dire as a 10 pt defeat sounds?

Not at it Minder but what was always going to be a difficult match can't have been helped with Watson getting sent off half way through the first half (per the Club Antrim twitter). Apparently Antrim had it back to 3 shortly into the second half but then Laois pulled away

Laois seem to have been making considerable progress under Niall Rigney over the last couple of years and think they have safely moved ahead from us in terms of rankings. A couple of their dual player seem to have committed to the hurling rather than football which tells its own story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2010, 04:43:24 PM
Aye I was reading that they had been going well and were a great price at 6/4. Clare and Wexford drew I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 15, 2010, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2010, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 28, 2010, 11:27:21 PM
Heard Tosh wasnt in the 24 to travel to Kildare & walked out.
Complete Tosh.
Quote from: aontroim on March 13, 2010, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 12, 2010, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 12, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
So has Tosh definitely left the panel then or what?  If so, I cant believe he wasn't given a chance compared to some of whats left on there.  ???

Definetly left.

FFS  >:(

So I was right then HS?? I dont understand how he wasnt named to start with in any of those games or even brought on in the Carlow match but then Dinny didnt really rate him in his 1st spell....sure he was brought on as a sub & then took off again about 10 minutes later in a match against Laois(disgrace)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2010, 09:06:54 AM
In all fairness I dont understand on a personal level why he would have gone back into the squad. He is a good player who Dinny didnt rate, but by the look of the current squad I think there can be serious questions asked about Dinnys selection.

Really bad result yesterday with LW again showing his true colours, when are we going to wise up to this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 15, 2010, 04:43:33 PM
Hate to say i told you so about Watson, but then most of you didn't need telling. Suppose it's hard to gague how close the teams are when one of the teams plays a man short for 2/3 of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 15, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Laois seem to be going the right way with league performances strong and with a good showing v limerick in last years championship

poor early season result and means a league final appearance is out of the question.  the big thing is dinny needs to find a few new players in the league, up front especially, i'd expect both of yesterdays midfielders to move back up front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 15, 2010, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 15, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
Laois seem to be going the right way with league performances strong and with a good showing v limerick in last years championship

poor early season result and means a league final appearance is out of the question.  the big thing is dinny needs to find a few new players in the league, up front especially, i'd expect both of yesterdays midfielders to move back up front.
+1 on the point about the midfielders.
One of the main reasons I did not want to see Dinny in charge was because he did not pay enough attention to the national league first time round. Unfortunatley that trend seems to be continuing this time. Antrim teams need a good national league to build sufficient self confidence to compete in the summer. Dinny tends to believe that the league is not important, personally I disagree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 15, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
Agree with points about Watson living up to his name, dinny's emphasis on league, at least Shane moving up front, baffling use of Tosh, but who else is out there (and willing) to come into the squad? Unfortunately the players that are there are not doing a job, but they are trying. Its not their fault they may not be good enough for the level we are at or aspire to, but we can't pull players out of the ground. Where are these better players everyone would like to see?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2010, 05:40:07 PM
I dunno about Dinny not taking the league seriously. Bad results don't necessarily mean we aren't taking it seriously.

I am puzzled by two things with Dinny - 1 why are those two boys in midfield when they're light forwards and 2. what the hell was he doing with tosh - surely the man deserved a bit of respect and to be given a chance. I thought they had it out earlier in the year and he agreed to give him his chance??

Realistically we've a poor squad / 15 at the minute. Still, can only get better...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 15, 2010, 06:29:47 PM
don't neccessarily agree we've a bad first 15,

magee
graffin
donnelly
mcfall
johnny campbell
neal mcauley
c herron/james mckeague
k mckeegan
k stewart
l watson
n mcmanus
p shields
s mc naughton
p richmond
joey scullion/pj/cj/

thats a really decent team, the problem maybe strength in depth, about 10 of that team are certain starters, the pressure for positions isn't what it should be and so league performances can be poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2010, 09:19:46 PM
Is Paddy Richmond definitely playing?

It's about time to wash our hands of watson too...

You may be right but it's a bit disillusioning where we currently are. You look at the likes of left corner forward there. Tosh would have been perfect for it. Just frustrating to see that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2010, 08:58:30 AM
As far as I had heard Paddy wasnt turning out this year but this could change once the heavy slogging training is out of the way.

As for the players yes I agree there is quite a talented bunch there, but talent isnt everything. The mid field combination was along the right lines in that we need a mobile talented mid field as this is the way the game has gone recently. We are seriosuly struggling for players up front which is the problem. Robbing Peter to pay Paul slightly.

The attitude to the league is puzzling esp this year, I think since we are competing in the Leinster Championship this should have been a game where we were looking to put down a marker for later in the summer.

Tosh IMO should not have gone back into the squad, can understand it on a personal level of wanting to play at the top level again but it was clear what Dinny thought of him which isnt aloit.

I have been hearing worrying comments about the attitudes of certain players to attending training and lifestyle choices. Now I know it is early in the year but if this is what is occurring at the moment and is being let slip then I dont see this being turned around for the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2010, 05:03:55 PM
Big chance missed today. Other than Mc Manus there isnt a forward that can put the ball over the bar. Karl Stewart would be needed soon into that forward line. Nobody seemed willing to take a shot from more than 30 yards in the second half. I think we scored about 0-3 in the last 20 minutes after Clare had a man sent off (harshly i thought). Our fellas seem intent on carrying the ball everytime they get it yet were continually outmuscled by the Clare players, instead of playing the ball in early. Clare were very poor, i was expecting abit more from them. With Carlow beating Wexford today it seems to be a poor quality division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 21, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
What was the team today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 21, 2010, 09:10:32 PM
Before the match if I thought we'd get within a point of Clare I would have been shocked. But after watching that we just seem to be getting worse. Forward line the whole match was shocking. Neil was carrying that forward line on his own. Some terrible decision making by the players.... . Dinny didnt help either, left Shane McN in midfield even though we had a extra man & no-one in the FF Line who was going to get us a score.

Neil McAuley, Hippy(apart from 10 spell in 1st half) & Neil McManus had good games, Shorty finished the last 10 well...but very disappointing performance.

when/who is next match??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2010, 10:22:37 PM
I think you nailed it there TwoHands, "decision making". They persisted to solo the ball into trouble and then lose it under a tackle. They don't hve the physical makeup to play this type of hurling. I know the forwards were poor but some of Antrims backs, under little pressure, kept pumping high balls in on top of the forwards with predictable results. I wonder do they even have a gameplan or work on a style of hurling during the week at training. I think it is Down next , at home, then Wexford away.

Any word on Graffin, seemed to pull up with what looked like a hamstring pull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 21, 2010, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 21, 2010, 10:22:37 PM
I think you nailed it there TwoHands, "decision making". They persisted to solo the ball into trouble and then lose it under a tackle. They don't hve the physical makeup to play this type of hurling. I know the forwards were poor but some of Antrims backs, under little pressure, kept pumping high balls in on top of the forwards with predictable results. I wonder do they even have a gameplan or work on a style of hurling during the week at training. I think it is Down next , at home, then Wexford away.

Any word on Graffin, seemed to pull up with what looked like a hamstring pull?
Sure they only trained on Friday night. Thats the problem with Dinny coming up from Tipp. The 1st time they met after the Laois was Friday night...Thats not good enough. 1-9 to 0-13 from 70 minutes on a good day for hurling tells you alot about the standard of todays match

Aye Graffin i'd say has pulled hamstring..a few weeks out for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 22, 2010, 11:02:38 AM
Didnt make the game on sunday, was it as bad as is being reported?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 22, 2010, 11:08:00 AM
had hoped to get up on Sunday but didn't make it.

Surely a one point loss to clare is a serious improvement on a 10 point loss to laois.  heard hippy and mcmanus were our top performers.  going by reports i think antrim are going to need paddy richmond back, just have no other ball winning forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 22, 2010, 11:56:58 AM
Leaving aside the quality, I was impressed by the work rate from start to finish. Excluding McManus the forwards were indeed toothless and just couldn't link up, not comfortable with each other at all, Shane shudve been moved up to rip things up a bit along with McManus after the sending off.
Not sure I agreed with leaving McCann on the edge of the square when he came on, he is decent in the air but I have never seen this role work for him against a reasonable FB. With fresh legs and 10 to go he should have given his man more to think about.
But as usual it's easy sayin it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 22, 2010, 09:09:43 PM
1. Gareth Magee 2. Aaron Graffin 3. Cormac Donnelly 4. Barry McFall 5. Neil McAuley 6. Karl McKeegan 7. Ciaran Herrom 8. Paul Shiels 9. Shane McNaughton 10. Simon McCrory 11. Neil McManus 12. P.J. O'Connell 13. Colm McFall 14. Martin Scullion 15. Conor McAlister

sundays team from county site
Title: http://www.clarecourier.ie/article.asp?id=1877
Post by: drici on March 25, 2010, 10:23:32 AM
Unconvincing win for Clare on the Falls Road
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=14124.msg662741#msg662741


(http://www.clarecourier.ie/gallery/images/Sports/Alan-Markham.jpg)



Alan Markham gets away from Antrim's Barry McFall and Karl McKeegan. Photo by Seamus Loughran




National Hurling League  Div 2 Round 4

Antrim           1-09

Clare              0-13



A slender victory in Belfast may keep Clare in promotion contention but leaves the question: is Clare hurling in steep decline or does this effort merely represent the stormy night before a glorious summer dawn?

Clare took the long road to Casement Park on the Falls Road to take on opposition that would normally be regarded as cannon fodder. Irrespective of the opposing team, 2010 is now proving to be a major obstacle for Clare to overcome as they attempt to reassert a hurling challenge on the national stage.

Wexford's loss to a Carlow side that would never win a first division game and Clare's inability to overcome Wexford at home shows just how far these once strong sides have fallen.

Fergal Lynch, who was most unfortunate to receive a red card entering the final quarter, had Clare's opening brace of scores either side of 1-1 from Antrim's Neil McManus (goal) and Paul Shields (point). Colin Ryan and Diarmuid McMahon added further scores to level the game after 12 minutes.

Darach Honan had travelled to Belfast in the aftermath of Clonlara's U21 championship victory over Door Barefield but was forced to retire with hamstring problems. His replacement, Barry Nugent, hit a rich vein of form for ten minutes bagging a hat-trick of scores before Antrim's Neil McManus did likewise.

Colin Ryan and Shane McNaughton were also on the scoresheet as Clare held on to a slender 0-9 to 1-5 half time advantage. Pat Vaughan, who was Clare's best player, and Cian Dillon were the pick of the Clare rearguard.

Twice Philip Brennan came to Clare's rescue in the second half with tremendous reflex saves as Antrim hit hard in the final twenty minutes when Clare were operating without Lynch.

A long range pass from Philip Brennan found Diarmuid McMahon for the opening score of the second half before Paul Shields and Colin Ryan swopped scores.

Clare still managed to maintain a one point lead ahead of their hosts with scores from Aaron Smylie and Sean Collins with a well earned point leaving Clare 0-11 to 1-7. Brennan made a fine save in the 57th minute before Colin Ryan had the final Clare score in the 61st minute.

The visitors had to endure ten minutes of had fought rearguard action during which Antrim added two more scores from Paul Shields and Colm McFall as well as witnessing Pat Vaughan making a goal line clearance in the dying moments to secure a vital brace of league points.

Consequently Clare will emerge as division two league finalists and aiming for a quick return to the top flight.

The winners had strong displays from Philip Brennan, Pat Vaughan, Cian Dillon, Sean Collins,  Fergal Lynch, Barry Nugent and James McInerney.

CLARE: Philip Brennan, Pat Vaughan, Cian Dillon, Gerry O'Grady, Brendan Bugler, James McInerney, Pat Donnellan, Sean Collins (0-1), Aonghus O'Brien, Diarmuid McMahon (0-2), David Barrett, Fergal Lynch (0-2), Darach Honan, Alan Markham, Colin Ryan (0-5). Subs: Barry Nugent (0-3) for Honan (inj), Cormac O'Donovan for O'Brien, Mark Flaherty for Markham, Martin Oige Murphy for Barrett, Eamonn Glynn for Donnellan.

ANTRIM : G McGhee, A Graffin, C Donnelly, M Scullion, M McAuley, K McKeegan, C Herron, P Shiels, PJ O'Connell, S McCrory, N McManus, S McNaughton, B McFall, C McFall, C McAllister. Subs: A Smylie for McAllister, T McCann for Scullion, D Hamill for McCrory, S McKeague for B McFall, E McCloskey for O'Connell.

REFEREE: Barry Kelly (Westmeath). 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 27, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
Congrats to CPC on retaining the O'Keefe Cup by beating Dungarvan CBS by 1 - 12 to 0 - 11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on March 27, 2010, 08:51:01 PM
Excellent stuff from CPC. Some fine work being done there by all concerned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2010, 05:50:47 PM
Westmeath 1-14 Antrim 1-13 FT
:-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 28, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2010, 05:50:47 PM
Westmeath 1-14 Antrim 1-13 FT
:-[
No suprise given the team named.McManus/Graffin not playing..Shorty not starting.

Westmeath 1-14 1-13 Antrim 

Shane McNaughton scored 1-6 for Antrim before being dismissed 
Antrim slipped to a one-point defeat by Allianz NHL Division Two strugglers Westmeath at Cusack Park on Sunday.

The hosts, without a win before the game, led 1-7 to 0-9 at half-time with Shane McNaughton hitting five points for the Saffrons.

Antrim started the second half strongly and McNaughton netted as the Ulstermen surged clear.

McNaughton was red-carded for striking before Westmeath fought back to clinch a surprise victory.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
I take it Graffin was injured from last week?

according to County website Collie McFall got the goal. It is still surprising Two Hands as Westmeath hadn't won a game yet and Kildare had beaten them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 28, 2010, 07:32:21 PM
From the county board guestbook.

Name : Mark28 March 2010How did the hurlers do against Westmeath?

Beat by a point 1.14 to 1.13. Missing a lot of regulars such as McManus, Graffin etc through injury and suspension.

There should no excuses for this defeat, it's almost a new all-time low and there's been a few of them over the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 28, 2010, 07:44:52 PM
I got that report from BBC website

I wasnt suprised Minder. Wait til you see the team named.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on March 29, 2010, 10:06:19 AM
Curley gives Westmeath hope
Westmeath 1-14
Antrim 1-13

Monday March 29 2010

Westmeath edged to their first win of the league campaign to give themselves hope of avoiding the drop.

Their heart and commitment belied their form, and their 1-7 to 0-9 half-time lead flattered Antrim. The goal came in the 16th minute when Ciaran Curley rifled home from close range after the outstanding Darren McCormack sent in a dangerous ball.

Antrim went in front six minutes into the second half when Shane McNaughton fired in a goal from 20 metres. It was nip and tuck thereafter and the sides were tied at 1-12 apiece with eight minutes remaining. Brendan Murtagh's free and a fine score from play from 60 metres by Derek McNicholas edged the hosts ahead.

McNaughton then received a straight red card and, in the last action of the game, visiting sub Paul Shields tried to blast home a winning goal, but his 25-metre free flew over rather than under the bar.

Scorers -- Westmeath: B Murtagh 0-5 (0-4f, 0-1 '65), D McNicholas 0-4, C Curley 1-0, A Dowdall 0-2, J Clarke, E Price, D Carty 0-1 each. Antrim: S McNaughton 1-6 (0-4f), K McKeegan (0-2f, 0-1 '65') and P Shields (0-2f) 0-3 each, PJ O'Connell 0-1.

Westmeath -- B McLoughlin; G Gavin, A Price, C Jordan; J Shaw, A Mitchell, D McCormack; N Flanagan, E Price; A Dowdall, D McNicholas, J Clarke; D Carty, B Murtagh, C Curley Subs: L Smith for Flanagan (43), P Greville for Gavin (44), R Jackson for Clarke (70).

Antrim -- G McGee; N McAuley, J McKeague, B McFall; PJ O'Connell, C Donnelly, C Herron; P Shivers, K McKeegan; S McNaughton, P McGill, S McCrory; C McFall, A Smiley, E McCloskey Subs: P Shields for McGill (h-t), T McCann for Smiley (h-t), D Hamill for McCloskey (50), M Scullion for C McFall (63).

Ref -- E Hassen (Derry).

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2010, 10:33:49 AM
Pitiful result  >:(

Looking at the team he is even starting to move players around out of position. One forward on the score sheet? I know he takes the league very lightly but this is starting to get embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2010, 04:32:37 PM
Too confused over this pair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 01, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
To be honest the hurling managment is a joke. I have heard that the manager has hid the starting full forwards gear. There is only 14 or 15 at training. We are going to the dogs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
Antrim 2-16 Down 2-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
away to Wexford next!! we'll be playing in the Nicky Rackard cup soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2010, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
away to Wexford next!! we'll be playing in the Nicky Rackard cup soon

Dinny said the other day he is happy with how the league is going so there is nothing to worry about........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on April 04, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 04, 2010, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
away to Wexford next!! we'll be playing in the Nicky Rackard cup soon

Dinny said the other day he is happy with how the league is going so there is nothing to worry about........

Offaly are light years ahead, I fear a bad beating
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: johnneycool on April 04, 2010, 06:26:07 PM
Good if unexpected win for down. Thats us safe with westmeath at home to finish. Who did all our scoring?
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2010, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2010, 06:26:07 PM
Good if unexpected win for down. Thats us safe with westmeath at home to finish. Who did all our scoring?

No word of a match even taking place on the Antrim site, they don't like bad news stories there. According to the BBC Kevin McGarry & James Doyle got the Down goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 05, 2010, 11:06:40 AM
James Coyle I think.
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: gelvis on April 05, 2010, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2010, 06:26:07 PM
Good if unexpected win for down. Thats us safe with westmeath at home to finish. Who did all our scoring?

Unexpected? Down have been running Antrim closer and closer over the last few games and I wouldn't think I'm the only one who saw this coming. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
Down have been doing ok in the league. While getting beat they're putting in good performances.

Antrim have been getting worse every game.  Getting beat by westmeath and down not good - hopefully we won't get sucked into a relegation battle.

I certainly wouldn't see this result as unexpected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2010, 08:53:22 PM
truth be know i took Down plus 6 in my bet at the weekend, (Galway beating me :() Antrim missing  a fair few players and have not got a settled team.

didn't think we'd lose but expected it to be tight. we cant be relegated imtommygunn, results against the other teams and points scored.

Shocking though that Down will finish above us considering the teams that they pick from (numbers Johnny ;)) Can we turn it around before Championship? don't know at this stage. Dinny may ask for more sessions that may hurt the leagues. will wait and see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 05, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2010, 08:53:22 PM
truth be know i took Down plus 6 in my bet at the weekend, (Galway beating me :() Antrim missing  a fair few players and have not got a settled team.

didn't think we'd lose but expected it to be tight. we cant be relegated imtommygunn, results against the other teams and points scored.

Shocking though that Down will finish above us considering the teams that they pick from (numbers Johnny ;)) Can we turn it around before Championship? don't know at this stage. Dinny may ask for more sessions that may hurt the leagues. will wait and see

Who will you end up supporting then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 05, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2010, 08:53:22 PM
truth be know i took Down plus 6 in my bet at the weekend, (Galway beating me :() Antrim missing  a fair few players and have not got a settled team.

didn't think we'd lose but expected it to be tight. we cant be relegated imtommygunn, results against the other teams and points scored.

Shocking though that Down will finish above us considering the teams that they pick from (numbers Johnny ;)) Can we turn it around before Championship? don't know at this stage. Dinny may ask for more sessions that may hurt the leagues. will wait and see

Who will you end up supporting then?

He certainly has previous in that regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 07, 2010, 10:14:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
Down have been doing ok in the league. While getting beat they're putting in good performances.

Antrim have been getting worse every game.  Getting beat by westmeath and down not good - hopefully we won't get sucked into a relegation battle.

I certainly wouldn't see this result as unexpected.

Down have been their dogged selves in the league and both Laois and Carlow should have won by more and were clearly the better teams. I can't condemn the Down lads for trying as they certainly do, but they're currently playing with 2 decent forwards in Magic and Woods, with Dule being injured, Andy Savage at midfield who's been very good of recent and a fairly leaky defence lacking a bit of discipline at times.

I'd suggest the result speaks more for Antrims state than any great upturn in Downs fortunes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2010, 11:39:30 AM
Not to want to take away from Down's victory but I'd have thought the same Johnney.

Disappointing. Maybe it's being saved for the c'ship...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 07, 2010, 01:58:35 PM
From what I understand dinny has asked a couple of players he removed or have walked of the panel to return. the two I have heard off are forwards. Has he realised that he hasn't a strong enough team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 07, 2010, 02:25:39 PM
Who are they Oisin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 07, 2010, 05:33:02 PM
Don't want to say as it's not common knowledge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2010, 06:02:07 PM
All pointing towards two oisins then oisin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 07, 2010, 08:38:46 PM
tosh was asked back, but said he wasn't going to. Watson hasn't been seen since he got sent off, heard today he has quit. Ryan McGarry also quit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2010, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 05, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2010, 08:53:22 PM
truth be know i took Down plus 6 in my bet at the weekend, (Galway beating me :() Antrim missing  a fair few players and have not got a settled team.

didn't think we'd lose but expected it to be tight. we cant be relegated imtommygunn, results against the other teams and points scored.

Shocking though that Down will finish above us considering the teams that they pick from (numbers Johnny ;)) Can we turn it around before Championship? don't know at this stage. Dinny may ask for more sessions that may hurt the leagues. will wait and see

Who will you end up supporting then?

Not involved with managing team now so it does not affect club or me. when you take a team you'll understand how the county setup can have a knock on effect with your plans. I'll not hold my breath though ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 08, 2010, 10:41:33 AM
WHAT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2010, 12:19:47 AM
Anonymous lunatics the lot of you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2010, 08:18:29 PM
If we don't have the tools then why bother bringing up coaches that would get a fair few quid in traveling expenses to take a team that is not going anywhere???

We posters are the reason Antrim hurling is in such a bad state. i think i should change the thread title and name it

DONT TALK ABOUT ANTRIM HURLING
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 14, 2010, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 07, 2010, 08:38:46 PM
tosh was asked back, but said he wasn't going to. Watson hasn't been seen since he got sent off, heard today he has quit. Ryan McGarry also quit

Watson hasn't quit, he was at training over the weekend there. Good to hear it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 14, 2010, 11:56:08 AM
yeah so I heard. Once football season is over he can get more training in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Watson was in the changing rooms before a pre season match and said "Aye Dinny I got the DC manager to take me off after 45 mins yesterday so I would be fresh for today", to which an unnamed city man said "Ah Liam I was at the match yesterday and you played the full game". Rumbled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
I don't like castigating any player but it's getting to the point where Watson is fast becoming a liability.

He can't keep his discipline at all and can't seem to be relied upon. Need better especially at county level.

Don't get me wrong he's got great talent and with the right attitude he'd arguably be our best player. He's about 27 / 28 now though and has never shown that attitude. Hope he proves me wrong but high time he grew up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Seriously guys, this is a guy who has shown flashes of talent and little else, he has contibuted big scores from frees and very little else. When has anyone seen a game where he took it by the scruff of the neck and won it for either club or county.

As soon as the going gets tough he pulls a dirty stroke if not having already done so. I dont like singling out a player but he does so himself with this attitude.

I have watched him playing since he was no age and know his game well. I dont think he would have the attitude he has if he were a player at a different club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2010, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Watson was in the changing rooms before a pre season match and said "Aye Dinny I got the DC manager to take me off after 45 mins yesterday so I would be fresh for today", to which an unnamed city man said "Ah Liam I was at the match yesterday and you played the full game". Rumbled.

I know I shouldn't, but I can't help laughing my arse off at this one!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2010, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Watson was in the changing rooms before a pre season match and said "Aye Dinny I got the DC manager to take me off after 45 mins yesterday so I would be fresh for today", to which an unnamed city man said "Ah Liam I was at the match yesterday and you played the full game". Rumbled.


I know I shouldn't, but I can't help laughing my arse off at this one!!


Dinny deserves everything he gets in this repect.
Title: Oidhche Luain
Post by: drici on April 17, 2010, 12:26:10 AM
Some highlights from the big clash of the weekend between Wexford and Antrim to be shown on GAA 2010 which starts at 20:00 on Monday night on TG4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2010, 08:59:30 PM
Who is Neil Berg (sp?)? He scored our goal today according to yer woman on Sunday Sport.

Hennings brother? Antrim site had McManus as getting the goal.
Title: Re: Oidhche Luain
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2010, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: drici on April 17, 2010, 12:26:10 AM
Some highlights from the big clash of the weekend between Wexford and Antrim to be shown on GAA 2010 which starts at 20:00 on Monday night on TG4.

should be a cracker!!

i think Antrim can win this one. but we should not mention anything otherwise we (anonymous posters) will get the blame if we lose
Title: Deireadh
Post by: drici on April 19, 2010, 12:15:15 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
Yet another pitiful result!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 19, 2010, 01:07:52 PM
highlights seemed to suggest we were playing rightly until the red card.  why was Magee not in goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2010, 02:08:33 PM
Dont think the sending off would have resulted in such a big swing IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 19, 2010, 02:32:47 PM
wasn't at the game so i don't know how it was progressing but going by reports Antrim came back from 5 down to lead by 3 at time man got the line.  Wexford then took over, it must have had a significant impact, playing with a man down is hard and doubly so if your forwards are all small in stature

Goals looked like giveaways too which didn't help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 19, 2010, 04:04:15 PM
is that the third Antrim hurler to get the line in the NHL, another double yellow or what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on April 19, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
Straight Red for PJ O Connell according to the paper. Meant to have been a bit harsh but as I was not at the match I could not say for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 19, 2010, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 19, 2010, 01:07:52 PM
highlights seemed to suggest we were playing rightly until the red card.  why was Magee not in goals?

Antrim had a strong enough wind on their favour in the first half. Young O'Connell has been dodgy this year in goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 19, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
You would have to agree 3 straight red cards in seven matches is poor form from Antrim.  All from our attacking players, saw the highlights and too be fair to PJ i thought it looked quite harsh too, a clip more than a full blooded swing.

Thats the league over, plenty of players got their chance and just the championship to come.  would fancy us to have a panel of players to compete with offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2010, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 19, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
You would have to agree 3 straight red cards in seven matches is poor form from Antrim.  All from our attacking players, saw the highlights and too be fair to PJ i thought it looked quite harsh too, a clip more than a full blooded swing.

Thats the league over, plenty of players got their chance and just the championship to come.  would fancy us to have a panel of players to compete with offaly

Offaly should have beat Tipp yesterday!! a goal in injury time meant that they won by a point.  hope i'm wrong but Offaly may beat us handy.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 19, 2010, 10:24:20 PM
Watched highlights tonight and sending off of PJ O'Connell was very harsh. It certainly wasn't a wild pull. The first two Wexford goals were very poor and should have been dealt with by the keeper.

Becasue of Dinny's take it or leave it attitude to the league its hard to know where Antrim are at. I don't think they have a settled team out of it. Will be very difficult against Offaly who have competed well in Div 1 with only Cork giving them a double digit defeat (11 points).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 20, 2010, 09:58:55 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't remember such a flat start to a new season both county and club. No buzz, sense of anticipation. What the feic is wrong with us??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2010, 11:03:35 AM
I honestly think that it is the total lack of respect for the NHL which has bred a kind of lethargy for the whole thing.

What kind of message does it send to our clubs, if our best players are not being pushed to their absolute best then why should the clubs push the either. If mediocre is all we are looking for then thats what we will get. I for one thought this year would be very intriguing with the new set up in Loughgiel and Cushendall with Dunloy coming off the back of a good winters work and with Ballycastle with a new up and coming team.

But it doesnt seem to be panning out that way, plus wait to dinny sees the fixture list especially with some of the games around the championship matches and watch them disappear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2010, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2010, 09:58:55 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't remember such a flat start to a new season both county and club. No buzz, sense of anticipation. What the feic is wrong with us??

is it just me or are the mid week fixtures a bit of a bollocks especially if you've a bit of travelling to do?

with the lack of weekends I suppose this is the shape of things to come for club hurling.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2010, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2010, 09:58:55 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't remember such a flat start to a new season both county and club. No buzz, sense of anticipation. What the feic is wrong with us??

i'll be up to sort out the buzz on Wed night Last Man ;D

yes understand where your coming from. Hurling has been very low key this year. we have no senior manager in place so no training session have taken place and some players have stayed away from the club.

we'd a South Antrim game last night and managed to have 22 players looking a game so hopefully the buzz will come back. as for the traveling Johnny, are seniors away to Carey tomorrow, match starts at 7.00pm!! but a home fixture on sunday against Rossa!! could have switched the ties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 20, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
Did you get the sack Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 20, 2010, 01:02:39 PM
Just to create a bit of discussion here are the first round of fixtures in all the leagues.  anyone want to have a stab at predicting them?

1
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Dunloy 21/04/2010 19:00 McAuley Liam  Round 1 
Ballycran  Portaferry  Ballycran 21/04/2010 19:00 Elliott Owen  Round 1 
Cushendall  Loughgiel   Cushendall 21/04/2010 19:00 Hasson Eamon  Round 1 
Glenariffe  Ballygalget  Glenariffe 21/04/2010 19:00 Traynor Francis  Round 1

2
Rossa  St. Pauls  Rossa 21/04/2010 19:00 Robinson Gerard  Round 2 
Lamh Dhearg   Tir na Nog  Lamh Dhearg 21/04/2010 19:00 Reilly Terry  Round 2 
Carey Faughs  St. Galls  Carey Faughs 21/04/2010 19:00 McGilligan Thomas  Round 2 
Gort Na Mona  St. Johns  Gort Na Mona 21/04/2010 19:00 Duffy Garrett  Round 2

3
Sarsfields  St. Teresas  Sarsfields 21/04/2010 19:00 Mc Caffery Pat  Round 1 
Cushendun  Shane O Neills  Cushendun 21/04/2010 19:00 Leech Malachy  Round 1 
Rasharkin  Cloughmills  Rasharkin 21/04/2010 19:00 McIntyre Tommy  Round 1 
Glenravel   Glen Rovers Armoy  Glenravel 21/04/2010 19:00 McKillop John  Round 1 


4A
St. Endas  St. Galls 2 St. Endas 21/04/2010 19:15 Reid James  Round 1 
All Saints  Bredagh  All Saints 21/04/2010 19:15 Kevin Robinson Round 1  wont call our game.
St. Agnes  Mc Dermotts  St. Agnes 21/04/2010 19:15 McGrath Davy  Round 1

4B
Davitts  Creggan  Davitts 21/04/2010 19:00 Willoughby Sean  Round 1 
Ardoyne  Latharna Og  Ardoyne 21/04/2010 19:00 Prenter Sean  Round 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2010, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 20, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
Did you get the sack Milltown?

Cant get the sack in hurling at Naomh Gall. was only taking it for the year which ended up being nicely extended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2010, 01:06:57 PM

1
Dunloy  Ballycastle  Dunloy 21/04/2010 19:00 McAuley Liam  Round 1
Ballycran  Portaferry  Ballycran 21/04/2010 19:00 Elliott Owen  Round 1
Cushendall  Loughgiel   Cushendall 21/04/2010 19:00 Hasson Eamon  Round 1
Glenariffe  Ballygalget  Glenariffe 21/04/2010 19:00 Traynor Francis  Round 1

2
Rossa  St. Pauls  Rossa 21/04/2010 19:00 Robinson Gerard  Round 2
Lamh Dhearg   Tir na Nog  Lamh Dhearg 21/04/2010 19:00 Reilly Terry  Round 2
Carey Faughs  St. Galls  Carey Faughs 21/04/2010 19:00 McGilligan Thomas  Round 2
Gort Na Mona  St. Johns  Gort Na Mona 21/04/2010 19:00 Duffy Garrett  Round 2

3
Sarsfields  St. Teresas  Sarsfields 21/04/2010 19:00 Mc Caffery Pat  Round 1
Cushendun  Shane O Neills  Cushendun 21/04/2010 19:00 Leech Malachy  Round 1
Rasharkin  Cloughmills  Rasharkin 21/04/2010 19:00 McIntyre Tommy  Round 1
Glenravel   Glen Rovers Armoy  Glenravel 21/04/2010 19:00 McKillop John  Round 1


4A
St. Endas  St. Galls ;) 2 St. Endas 21/04/2010 19:15 Reid James  Round 1
All Saints  Bredagh  All Saints 21/04/2010 19:15 Kevin Robinson Round 1  wont call our game.
St. Agnes  Mc Dermotts  St. Agnes 21/04/2010 19:15 McGrath Davy  Round 1

4B
Davitts  Creggan  Davitts 21/04/2010 19:00 Willoughby Sean  Round 1
Ardoyne  Latharna Og  Ardoyne 21/04/2010 19:00 Prenter Sean  Round 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 20, 2010, 04:29:05 PM
It could be your night Milltown  :), our training and Ulster league has been pathetic but with a home match we'll have a Mexican Army there looking a game. I'll hardly figure myself as the bench won't be long enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
ACHL Div 1

Glenariffe 1-15 Ballygalget 1-11  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2010, 09:16:42 PM
Dunloy   3-12   2-9   Ballycastle   Dunloy   
Ballycran   2-12   0-12   Portaferry   Ballycran   
Cushendall   1-11   1-16   Loughgiel   Cushendall      
Glenariffe   1-15   1-11   Ballygalget   Glenariffe   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
ACHL Div 1

Glenariffe 1-15 Ballygalget 1-11  8)

expected that but was shite on the others :-[

oh we beat Carey and St Endas :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 22, 2010, 02:30:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
ACHL Div 1

Glenariffe 1-15 Ballygalget 1-11  8)

expected that but was shite on the others :-[

oh we beat Carey and St Endas :D

That's a good results against st endas milltown. What was the score? We beat ballymena 1:6 - 4:26.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 22, 2010, 08:16:14 AM
Any match reports on the Dunloy Ballycastle or Cushendall Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 22, 2010, 11:13:30 AM
Ballycastle started the game very strongly, dominant in middle third and lively in the full forward line, created a few chances early on but only lead 0-1 to 0-0 after 7/8 mins.  Dunloy blasted the next 1-4 with the goal coming from a magee penalty after nancy had been pulled down when through, shorty also scored the point of the game at this stage.

Dunloy continued to dominant for most of the game with goals from Nancy and Ryan McErlaine to comfortably lead by 10 with 10 to goal, once again Ballycastle kicked on and a superb catch and goal from cossy game them some hope, this was further enhance with another 1-1 coming however never really looked like being enough to over turn the scoreline

Ballycastle have huge potential, they still need to uncover a real scoring threat as they created but didn't take enough chances in the first 10 mins, Dunloy had a good start to the league with a few still to come back in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2010, 03:13:54 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on April 22, 2010, 02:30:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2010, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
ACHL Div 1

Glenariffe 1-15 Ballygalget 1-11  8)

expected that but was shite on the others :-[

oh we beat Carey and St Endas :D

That's a good results against st endas milltown. What was the score? We beat ballymena 1:6 - 4:26.

4-26!!!

i know ballymena aren't great but thats some scoring for the first match. is Colm still looking after yas?

we won 1-10 to 0-9 against st Endas. they had a lot of possesion but pushed young Curran into fullforward at the start of the second half. he'd won most  puck outs in the first half.

going for goals too early!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on April 23, 2010, 10:45:25 AM
Aye colm and sean are still there. It was a good score alright, sorta have to do it when you can incase of score difference atthe end of the year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2010, 06:27:04 PM
over the years I've heard some cracking excuses for clubs calling games off but todays excuse takes the biscuit. McDees have called their game off against us because they don't have any helmets!!!!

whats next? can a club get a game called off cause they have no boots??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
Ballycran 2-15 Glenariffe 2-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2010, 04:44:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
Ballycran 2-15 Glenariffe 2-15

Good result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 25, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
Result on county website is;

Ballycran 2-18 v 2-15 Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 25, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
Result on county website is;

Ballycran 2-18 v 2-15 Glenariffe

Typo. Aye was 2-18 to 2-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 25, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
Result on county website is;

Ballycran 2-18 v 2-15 Glenariffe

Typo. Aye was 2-18 to 2-15

Bad result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
not a bad result Glenariffe showing good form early on. we got beat by Rossa today. both teams missing players but my post is about the referee.

the Ballymena referee was unreal. never in my life had i ever seen such a bad performance. his calls for both teams was the worst ever witness.

its reasons like that today that I've taken up the refereeing. he seen two flags on the twenty one when there was only one. he give a penalty thirty yards out when it should have been on the twenty  yard line!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2010, 07:09:07 PM
Was it Liam Donnelly officiating, Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2010, 08:13:03 PM
Aye Minder, think he was at  wedding the day before ;)

he's done a few games over the years and he hasn't improved, sorry Liam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on April 26, 2010, 11:24:57 AM
Liam's been known for this kind of reffin'. Heard he likes an odd sip before a game. Think its to calm his nerves..... ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
careful now

Dunloy beat Portaferry 0-12 to 0-5, defence played surperbly well especially considering only James McKeague and Woody started last years County Final in the defence.  Paul Braniff went off at half time and Portaferry never really threatened to get on top second half, they did miss a few frees in the first half.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
We took an big tanking from Loughgeil yesterday, 17 odd points in it at the end. If that whasn't bad enough we couldn't muster enough to field a reserve team and only had three senior subs.

some lazy wee hoors about our place at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 26, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 26, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
We took an big tanking from Loughgeil yesterday, 17 odd points in it at the end. If that whasn't bad enough we couldn't muster enough to field a reserve team and only had three senior subs.

some lazy wee hoors about our place at the minute.

very unlike Ballygalget, hurled many a years and never recall you guys not fielding a reserve team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2010, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 26, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 26, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
We took an big tanking from Loughgeil yesterday, 17 odd points in it at the end. If that whasn't bad enough we couldn't muster enough to field a reserve team and only had three senior subs.

some lazy wee hoors about our place at the minute.

very unlike Ballygalget, hurled many a years and never recall you guys not fielding a reserve team

Too many young fella's still on their mammies teat IMO.

There'd be thirty odd lined up for a home game though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 26, 2010, 04:56:48 PM
It's not just Ballygalget who had bother fielding in the reserves. Rossa couldn't muster a team either and it was 20 minutes after throw in time before they phoned Ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 29, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Am I hearing correctly that several of the hurling panel have booked flights to America the day after the Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 29, 2010, 03:34:16 PM
Who would these members be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 29, 2010, 07:41:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 29, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Am I hearing correctly that several of the hurling panel have booked flights to America the day after the Championship?

Championship as in the Offaly match on May 30th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2010, 08:29:54 AM
Yes the Offaly game and a couple of players from different clubs from what I have heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 04, 2010, 12:08:18 PM
Well tell us who you have heard about then NAG.

Results from u21 championship last night

st pauls 2.09 st galls 1.07
sarsfields 5.12 st endas 1.08
st johns 0.11 dunloy 2.03
lamh dearg 3.06 st brendans 2.11
cushendall 7.13 rasharkin 1.13
gort na mona 2.09 loughgiel 1.15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2010, 12:12:19 PM
Not exactly the scoreline you'd be expecting from cushendall - rasharkin but I guess still an 18 point victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2010, 09:31:24 PM
we beat St Pauls tonight in the league. was tight game but 2 point win with players playing well below par is a grand result.

had have brought my gear i could've got on ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2010, 07:39:31 PM
Ballycastle 1-17 Glenariffe 2-16
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2010, 07:59:53 PM
That's a great result for Glenariffe.

Rossa now the kingpins of Belfast hurling then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 08, 2010, 09:01:42 PM
Delighted at the result tonight hopefully we can add to it by beating portaferrry during the week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2010, 09:28:39 PM
There was a shift in power for at least a year HS.

League tables don't lie  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2010, 11:57:19 PM
Tommy, Rossa always beat the Johnnies when it mattered, was at the game tonight (Ballymena never turned up for my game) and Rossa looked the better team and still short some players.

The Johnnies still over reliant on McFall who scored some fine scores but think football is king up the Whiterock.

was annoyned that Ballymena never wayed in tonight. such a night for hurling wasted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2010, 09:14:14 PM
Liam Watson shortlisted for player of the year.  Must be handy enough at the auld soccer too.

Loughgiel beat Dunloy in Dunloy. That's a big one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 10, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
Ports had a good win over Cushendall yesterday, by two or three points in a high scoring contest. I only caught the last 10 minutes where Neil McManus got his second yellow for nothing more than a wee bit of argy bargy and with that the Ports were able to pull away as it'd been a draw at that stage. Thought the ref, a Gareth Duffy (not Garrett Duffy), was a bit picky for my liking and was certainly irking a few Dall lads.

Dall looked a bit light on numbers with only one or two subs. Is there a bit of travelitis up there as well?


We're but in Ballycastle on tuesday night as I'm led to believe that Antrim are playing a friendly on wednesday night in parnell park, I'm assuming that's against Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 10, 2010, 09:44:04 AM
Missing graffin and paddy mcgill. Also no u21's played as there is championship tonite. That takes almost 7 or so away from the team. Positive enough bearing in mind who we were missing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 10, 2010, 11:47:40 AM
Dunloy beat by 2 goals by Loughgiel, poor enough match, hadn't the intensity you'd expect with this fixture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
Theres been a poker faced element to early season loughgiel dunloy league games for quite a few years now. Pretty poor fair from both sides. Lg will be slightly more happy with their performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2010, 02:36:16 PM
Our club ran a hurling tournament for the kids at the weekend. the weather was great and the kids served up a feast of hurling passion and skill.

teams form all over Belfast, south Belfast and North, teams from the Ards Peninsula also in attendance. usually the same faces win these competitions but the trend was bucked at the weekend when Ballygalget won the Cup and Pearses from North Belfast won the Shield.

i know the kids will come away from this feeling great and eager for the next tournament. was played without the Go Games rules and this made for a better show IMHO.

Hopefully this will be a regular thing and well done to all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 11, 2010, 12:12:42 AM
And why was he still on the field of play to hit that free when there was blood visible on his hand and shorts - weak refereeing  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 11, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
Take it this is a wind up HS?

Have they also an appeal in against Naomh Eoin for fielding an over age player?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2010, 12:24:22 PM
St Johns hammered last night!! the hurling bubble has burst big time at the Corrigan road ground.

hurling on the slide and the footballers doing well in the leagues.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2010, 12:26:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2010, 12:24:22 PM
St Johns hammered last night!! the hurling bubble has burst big time at the Corrigan road ground.

hurling on the slide and the footballers doing well in the leagues.

I'd have thought their good U-14's would take a year or two to come up through the ranks yet.

How would they be faring at U-16 and minor at the minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2010, 12:28:36 PM
they don't seem to manage to hold on to players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2010, 01:35:20 PM
do they lose them to other clubs or do they just disappear?

I suppose these young lads expect the best of everything and after Feile years there just isn't the same impetus and sustained effort with the youngsters and they drift away.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 11, 2010, 03:00:35 PM
Plus looking into it from outside they are pushed so hard to succeed at that level I would say apathy and not giving a toss would come into it after a while. This is the problem with the win at all costs attitude applied on the whiterock for the past number of years, will be interesting to see if they develop over the next few years.

IMO I would doubt it, kids are not long of getting fed up when the pressure is constantly there to win, there doesnt seem to be any fun in actually playing the game they prepare like seniors and have the same attitude. Truth is they are kids and they should be having fun first and foremost. Its all well and good to win u14 feiles and u16 all countys, but I would look more closely at the likes of Dunloy and Cushendall who seem to be able to add 3-4 players every year to their senior squad to build it up. Yes alot of work went in to their current teams but I dont think the same pressures were there to win at all costs. Same could maybe be said of another NA club but not to the same extent at Naomh Eoin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 11, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Cushendall  3-12 2-14 Dunloy  Cushendall Round 4 
Ballycastle  2-11 1-14 Ballygalget  Ballycastle Round 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2010, 10:12:44 PM
two serious tight games. what was the Dall game like?

players all available to both teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 12, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
Cushendall won with a goal in last minute of the game from Neal McManus, decent game and an improvement on our performance against Loughgiel but still much to do.  Cushendall without Graffin & Magill, dunloy without Paddy Richmond, Sean Dowds & Dick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on May 12, 2010, 10:43:06 AM
Quote from: maxpower on May 12, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
Cushendall won with a goal in last minute of the game from Neal McManus, decent game and an improvement on our performance against Loughgiel but still much to do.  Cushendall without Graffin & Magill, dunloy without Paddy Richmond, Sean Dowds & Dick

Travelled down to watch this one expecting a bit more of a game, Thought it was pretty awful to be honest. Some good scores from both teams all the same.

I think Cushendall where also missing Kevin Elliott (if hes playing at all)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2010, 10:46:55 AM
Think Dunloy using a bit of experience and giving the boys a break after the full winters training, think it would be slightly more worrying for the other big two that loughgiel couldnt pull away from them (with them playing v poorly) and cushendall needing a last minute goal to beat them at home, with both of them in full flight training wise.

Would you not say so Max?

Sure graffin will be sunning himself in a different time zone for the summer anyway  ;)

KE has reitred again by all accounts - oh by the way anyone able to pick the county men out of each team on performance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 12, 2010, 11:03:50 AM
Elliott not retired.played the first 3 league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 12, 2010, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 11, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Cushendall  3-12 2-14 Dunloy  Cushendall Round 4 
Ballycastle  2-11 1-14 Ballygalget  Ballycastle Round 4

I'd have thought we'd be happy enough to get a point on the board after three games, all three up in the glens.

I wonder if we're getting hammered for the refereeing issue as was on the Antrim GAA web site a good few weeks back, but I see other teams also mentioned having home fixtures and AFAIK no one of authority in the club has been told of a penalty of losing home games due to the referee issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 12, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 12, 2010, 10:46:55 AM
Think Dunloy using a bit of experience and giving the boys a break after the full winters training, think it would be slightly more worrying for the other big two that loughgiel couldnt pull away from them (with them playing v poorly) and cushendall needing a last minute goal to beat them at home, with both of them in full flight training wise.

Would you not say so Max?

Sure graffin will be sunning himself in a different time zone for the summer anyway  ;)

KE has reitred again by all accounts - oh by the way anyone able to pick the county men out of each team on performance?

I'd say we're not entirely unhappy with where we are at but we have still lost to our biggest rivals and so obvious that improvement is needed.  I'd be surprised if graffin isn't hurling in a County Final in September and so Cushendall have room for improvement, i'd think the young lad Brick would be a decent addition when he gets fit (reliable freetaker) and Cushendall are always better as the year goes on, so it would be foolish of us to not be aware that they can and possibly will improve as much as ourselves.

Loughgiel the same, Winker & JC were quiet against us, Martin Scullion didn't play and Joey Scullion will only improve now he's home from Oz.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2010, 12:10:54 PM
Yeah Max, I wasnt saying that there wasnt room for improvement across the board, but I was saying that for by the defeat to the local rivals there would be very little to be overly concerned about.

What did you make of the county squad men over the two games then from all three teams?
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Post by: maxpower on May 12, 2010, 02:24:59 PM
Its hard to gauge the opposition as your always watching your own men but

Loughgiel
Eddie McCloskey hurled well (is he on squad), Winker was quiet but scored a goal and excellent point, Johnny Campbell had a decent game but for me McCloskey & McKillop were probaly there two best players.  Neill McGarry went off with what looked like a torn hamstring after about 10 mins

Cushendall
Neal McManus had a good game, Shane McNaughton took his goal and 1/2 points well from play and looked lively but wasted a fair few decent possessions too, Mckeegan was corner forward and didn't really get into the game such was Cushendall's desire to find Shane.  Graffin not on

Dunloy
Magee didn't have his two best games over the last few, at fault for a goal against loughgiel and missed a pen against the dall, but a class act and in my opinion the one position where Antrim are as strong as any other county in Ireland, Shorty was lively against the dall dropping into midfield to pick up ball but in neither game did he reach his normal hieghts. do we have anyone else on panel.  over two games Kevin McKeague, Conor Cunning and Kevin Molloy where our better players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2010, 03:30:03 PM
Was just curious of some one else opinion because I wouldnt have said any of them stood out maybe barring McManus, seem to be of the same standard as the ordinary club player, dont know if this is down to training load or what!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2010, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 12, 2010, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2010, 12:24:22 PM
St Johns hammered last night!! the hurling bubble has burst big time at the Corrigan road ground.

hurling on the slide and the footballers doing well in the leagues.

Hows underage and senior hurling going in St Galls? Much young talent coming through? Are St Johns not top of Div 2 as far as I Know? Thanks Champ.

ours is shite Groudile, haven't won a feile in years and havent won minor since Karl Stewart's team (our only minor win) Struggling to make an impression at Juvenile, but will plug away

st Johns top by virtue of played one extra game!!

my point being i expect more from a team that has produced a string of excellent hurlers at underage recently and after watching the Rossa game and hearing the result from the under 21's from a Cushendall team who would not be the best, surprising?

As a clubman your bound to be a little concerned Groundlie. keep your knickers on ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 12, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 12, 2010, 03:30:03 PM
Was just curious of some one else opinion because I wouldnt have said any of them stood out maybe barring McManus, seem to be of the same standard as the ordinary club player, dont know if this is down to training load or what!

I don't think they were playing at a different level that the club players around them and it may be down to training load, sometimes though we expect to much of our county men, with the sheer number of games they play there is bound to be plenty of times where they just think fcuk it get this game over.

I always think you see there true value in July Auguest when the county scene is over and they are 100% committed to club action with championships coming
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 12, 2010, 09:19:44 PM
Glenariff 2-16 Portaferry 1-13

Tight match, could have gone either way. Glenariff squandered a good 6 point start gained in the first ten minutes by stopping for the rest of the first half. Portaferry lead at half time by 2. Glenariff pulled away in the last ten mins for a 6 point win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2010, 09:21:09 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 12, 2010, 09:19:44 PM
Glenariff 2-16 Portaferry 1-13

Tight match, could have gone either way. Glenariff squandered a good 6 point start gained in the first ten minutes by stopping for the rest of the first half. Portaferry lead at half time by 2. Glenariff pulled away in the last ten mins for a 6 point win.

It seems everyone else is playing for second place Artie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 13, 2010, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 13, 2010, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
Ah balax

St. Johns    3-15   0-11   St. Pauls

It's tight at the top.

Has the bubble still burst?

One swallow...

Why was the county game not played last night? Are they away this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 13, 2010, 12:38:31 PM
According to the county site is was down to player availability
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 13, 2010, 12:53:16 PM
Club games and exams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 13, 2010, 01:01:37 PM
I'd say so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Uladhabu on May 13, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
Whats this about a Rossa substitute climbing the rails and having a go at a St Johns supporter (Teacher) on Sat night? I hear the Ref from Co Down(Kileif) ignored the whole incident completely and carried on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
Why should he have got in involved?

Was it due to player unavailability on our part? Thought thats why the games were moved to Tuesday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 13, 2010, 02:09:59 PM
According to county website:

The game was called off yesterday pm when due to exams, club committments, illness and injury following club games, it became apparent that a only a small squad would be able to travel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 13, 2010, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
Ah balax

St. Johns    3-15   0-11   St. Pauls

It's tight at the top.

Has the bubble still burst?

Christ they are shite!! i could have played in that game ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
Bloody hell, a home fixture on a sunday to our high flying neighbours. Hopefully we'll get a good day and a big crowd.

Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   15:00   TBC    Round 3   
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Rossa    Portaferry    Rossa   15/05/2010   16:30   Prenter Sean    Round 4   
Cushendall    Dunloy    Cushendall   15/05/2010   17:00   Kevin Robinson   Round 4   
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   13:30   Quinn Liam    Round 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 13, 2010, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on May 13, 2010, 02:09:59 PM
According to county website:

The game was called off yesterday pm when due to exams, club committments, illness and injury following club games, it became apparent that a only a small squad would be able to travel.

There was always a high risk that that game would be compromised. I love hurling as much as the next man but the thought of travelling 2-300 miles round trip on a wednesday night after a days works for a challenge game would really grind my gears and would only be made worse by the fact you'd be travelling with tired legs. Theres no way your head or body would be right for the game so as much as the county management feel they need "games" I would very much doubt that there would be anything to gain from such a venture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2010, 04:15:37 PM
The fact that the game was to be in Dublin you'd assume Antrim asked for it in the first place and you'd have hoped that the management and co board would have consulted with the players in terms of availability as you'd have needed a half day off work to get there and any of the students would have known well in advance about being tied up with exams.

There wouldn't be much learned from playing lads who just travelled 150 odd mile after a day at work plus having played a club game the night before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 13, 2010, 04:17:33 PM
Agree entirely Skull, most of the players would have played a game Sat/Sun then Tues then head from Ballycastle/Loughgeil/Dunloy etc to Dublin for 3 hours travel after work.  you'd nearly need paid to do that ::)

i'm sure the County do need games though and not easy to get at this time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 13, 2010, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
Bloody hell, a home fixture on a sunday to our high flying neighbours. Hopefully we'll get a good day and a big crowd.

Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   15:00   TBC    Round 3   
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Rossa    Portaferry    Rossa   15/05/2010   16:30   Prenter Sean    Round 4   
Cushendall    Dunloy    Cushendall   15/05/2010   17:00   Kevin Robinson   Round 4   
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   13:30   Quinn Liam    Round 3

Open the bar Johnny and youse can make a few bob.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 14, 2010, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on May 13, 2010, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
Bloody hell, a home fixture on a sunday to our high flying neighbours. Hopefully we'll get a good day and a big crowd.

Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   15:00   TBC    Round 3   
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Team 2   Venue   Date   Time   Referee   Comment
Rossa    Portaferry    Rossa   15/05/2010   16:30   Prenter Sean    Round 4   
Cushendall    Dunloy    Cushendall   15/05/2010   17:00   Kevin Robinson   Round 4   
Ballygalget    Ballycran    Ballygalget   16/05/2010   13:30   Quinn Liam    Round 3

Open the bar Johnny and youse can make a few bob.

The bar isn't allowed to be open during a game, it will however be open before, half time and after the games.

An old club rule allegedly but I'm sure we'll get you a glass of fizzy pop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2010, 09:27:20 AM
I think it is the same for most clubs, except that those are drinking clubs first and GAA clubs second  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2010, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2010, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 13, 2010, 11:25:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 13, 2010, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
Ah balax

St. Johns    3-15   0-11   St. Pauls

It's tight at the top.

Has the bubble still burst?

Christ they are shite!! i could have played in that game ;)

Rossa and yourselves didnt beat them by much?
Rossa did beat yourselves though which is more important than hammering an also ran.

strange though! at senior hurling we have never in the past been known as hurling rivals to Rossa and St Johns. so the question is this, has the hurling dropped between the big two or have St Galls improved?

i'm of the opinion that we have improved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2010, 12:36:40 PM
Youse have improved and the big two have got worse. Rossa seem to bring talent through better than their rivals so I'd expect them to get back up to the right standard in the next few years with their minor and U21s doing well last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2010, 01:42:29 PM
Realistically, how long is it going to be before any club in Belfast is going to challenge on a regular basis for the SHC?

I know there are vast somes of money going into the GAA in Dublin, but does their club scene in a major city not put ours to shame?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2010, 05:00:35 PM
i hope so!! don't think a Belfast club could do it on its own. a club amalgamation maybe the way forward.  but the club needs to be a sole hurling club with no distractions from the big ball game. it would take it also to be properly affiliated.

can see Rossa possibly chasing honours (maybe not winning) in a few years providing they work continue with their development plan.

as for the money going into Dublin it seems a bit unfair that a City like Belfast which has 30 clubs (some Down teams in that) is not getting the required help in targeting the schools which are not producing hurling talent. gone are the days of teacher staying and coaching kids taking teams and developing players. (i know a few good teachers out there doing this, so not a reflection on them)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
Wasn't  he on those decent Antrim minor teams? I have never seen him playing much, if any, senior hurling for St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 14, 2010, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
Wasn't  he on those decent Antrim minor teams? I have never seen him playing much, if any, senior hurling for St Galls.
He was, aye. He was a good player too. I played against him in a reserve match a couple of years ago.

Were you wearing tracksuit bottoms? Is he Speedy's son?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2010, 08:30:36 AM
I saw the lad hurling too and I think decent would be stretching it a fair bit.

Any word of how the weekend in Cork went? Numbers must have been down slightly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 17, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Beat by Cork u21's by 4 points I heard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 17, 2010, 04:16:06 PM
From what I'm told...25 players went....alot of injured players rested.
Good result from the cork challenge with these injuries. 4 points in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
See on the County Website that this Sundays ACHL fixtures have be brought forward to this Wednesday. 10 Day rule I'm guessing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 17, 2010, 05:09:29 PM
No surprise there, fair enough. At least games are still scheduled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
JohnneyCool that was a bit of a hammering you boys took from Ballycran.

What happened there? Were you guys missing players or have you lost some and Ballycran getting stronger?

Ballycran are looking good this year...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 18, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
JohnneyCool that was a bit of a hammering you boys took from Ballycran.

What happened there? Were you guys missing players or have you lost some and Ballycran getting stronger?

Ballycran are looking good this year...

That was a reserve match. Seniors play tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Bit of a journey for them on a Wednesday night up to Dunloy, will they make it up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 18, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Bit of a journey for them on a Wednesday night up to Dunloy, will they make it up?

They also played Glenariffe away in the first game on a Wednesday night and made it up ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 18, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 18, 2010, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 18, 2010, 01:47:04 PM
Bit of a journey for them on a Wednesday night up to Dunloy, will they make it up?

They also played Glenariffe away in the first game on a Wednesday night and made it up ok

With the 3 Down teams, no Belfast clubs and a lot of midweek fixtures in Div 1, its inevitable that theres a lot of midweek trips to North Antrim and the Ards pennisula.

Wonder how understrength the county team was that beat the Cork u21's at the weekend? Will the injured players be fit for Sunday wek?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2010, 09:31:25 PM
Glenariffe 1-15 Loughgile 0-21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on May 19, 2010, 09:47:05 PM
Armoy beat Rasharkin by a point, Ballycastle beat again. Was not at either match but got a text.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 20, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
did the loughgiel Glenarriffe match cut up rough last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2010, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 20, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
did the loughgiel Glenarriffe match cut up rough last night?

Was a very good game I believe and one we maybe should have won. Didn't cut up rough from what I heard, Ding Gillan did his party trick of drawing off a player in the first half. Tosh got two stupid yellows for backchat to the ref and another one of our fellas drew off Winker after a bit of a schemozzle.

Heard we called off the Dublin friendly by informing the Dubs it was Antrim championship that Tuesday night, not league games. You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 20, 2010, 10:27:49 AM
Minder sure we had 18 traveling to Cork at the weekend for the pre championship bonding/ training weekend what a farce.

Its embarrassing that 3 weeks before a championship game that we could even field for a challenge game, not that the match should have been fixed mid week anyway.

Yeah Ding at it again, would love to see the stats on his record, I would say he has been sent off in every season since he started hurling senior level not many can rival a record like that. Long may it continue  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oman on May 20, 2010, 12:15:32 PM
i was at the oisins match last night and they had a great chance to win the match. it was the sub who came on at half time who missed a sitter. think it was the yound lad aaron cosgrove not sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 20, 2010, 12:36:01 PM
From county site. Norris Murray other sending off (not surprising). Tosh has had a couple of reds over the years that have been down to back chat to ref's.

Loughgiel edged out Glenariffe in a high scoring and very entertaining Division One league game at Waterfoot on Wednesday evening, a win that moves them back to the top of the table. Just two points in arrears with the game entering injury time Oisin's almost snatched a result when 'Ronnie' McDonnell placed substitute Aaron Cosgrove clear in front of goal, but a great block from a Shamrocks defender saved the day for the visitors and they broke away to seal the win with Liam Watson point.
Glenariffe got away to a flying start and were 0-6 to 0-2 ahead after twelve minutes with Johnny 'Tosh' hitting four and 'Ronnie' the other two, but Loughgiel hit back and some lovely scores from Eddie McCloskey and Liam McKillop, and three from full forward Damian Laverty, sent them in level at the break on nine points apiece.
Glenariffe had the perfect start to the second-half as corner-forward Kevin McDonnell reacted quickly when a ball rebounded off the upright to flick it to the Loughgiel net. Watson hit back with two quick Loughgiel points but 'Tosh' sent over two at the other end to keep the home side in front.
McIntosh then received a second yellow card and joined Loughgiel's 'Ding' Gillen (who had been sent off in the first-half) on the sideline and while Glenariffe were trying to re-adjust Loughgiel hit three points inside a minute through Eddie McCloskey (2) and Liam Watson to edge in front for the first time.
The remainder of the game was score for score with Loughgiel finding a reply each time the Oisin's closed to within point. Glenariffe's cause was not helped when Norris Murray was red carded in the forty-ninth minute, but they kept themselves in contention with some great points from Randal McDonnell.
There was just two between the sides entering injury time when the home side made a late bid for glory only to be denied by some great Loughgiel defending as the Shamrocks held out to keep their league title bid very much alive.
Glenariffe – Seanin McToal, Norris Murray, Mark Nulty, Chris Sheppard, Conor kerr, Mickey Gettins, Dan McKillop, Conor McAllister, Karl Healey, Paul McDonnell, Randal McDonnell, Daniel O'Boyle, Alex McDonnell, Johnny McIntosh, Kevin McDonnell. Subs – Aaron Cosgrove

Loughgiel – DD Quinn, Conal Dobbin, Barney McAuley, Mark McFadden,  Paul Gillen, Johnny Campbell, Oran McFadden, Liam McKillop, Declan Laverty, Eddie McCloskey, Martin Scullion, Ciaran McKinley, Joey Scullion, Damian Laverty, Liam Watson.  Subs – Ronan McCloskey

Dunloy and Ballygalget also ran up a big score in their game in Dunloy with the home side beating the Down men by 2-19 to 2-15 to stay in joint second place in the league table.
The much travelled Portaferry, who made their third trip to North Antrim in ten days, were rewarded when they beat Ballycastle by 0-19 to 1-13 at Pairc MacUilli
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2010, 09:49:50 PM
Rossa beat Clooney by 4 (no stolen phones to be reported)
Johnnies beat St. Galls handy enough.

yes the Johnnies won handy enough. was not at the match but heard we had a man sent off which wouldn't help, coupled with the county players unavailable due to the game on Sunday its unfair on the  lads.

think we must be the only Club to have 10 representatives for their county, seems that the bigger clubs don't get anything out of producing quality players that end up being with the county more than their club. I'd say at a stretch the county players manage 10 league games a year with their club.

on a side note our Division 4 team beat St Agnes up in woodlands. was not for the purist but was mighty exciting!!!

i think the ball must have been attached to my shins as they are black and blue today!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 20, 2010, 12:36:01 PM
Dunloy and Ballygalget also ran up a big score in their game in Dunloy with the home side beating the Down men by 2-19 to 2-15 to stay in joint second place in the league table.

A good open game last night. Played in the right spirit throughout (just about) officiated very well (just about) by Garrett Duffy. The game flowed from start to finish with some lovely scores from both sides. Dunloy wides/missed chances kept Ballygalget in the hunt and they responded well which made for a good exciting game right to the finished. Performance levels much better from Dunloy who are still missing a few players through injury. Good to see us putting up a decent scoreline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
Watson gone from county panel.bbc ni website.no suprise there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
Watson gone from county panel.bbc ni website.no suprise there

Maybe a few big scrambler competitions coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 21, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
BBC page

Liam Watson's walk-out reduces Antrim hurlers' options 

Watson was previously dropped from the Antrim hurling squad in July 2008
Antrim hurlers' options for the summer have been reduced by Liam Watson's decision to quit the county squad.

An Antrim county board statement said that a players representative had informed the management on Thursday night of Watson's decision.

The management was told that Loughgiel man Watson had taken the decision because of "personal commitments".

Watson was dropped from the county squad in 2008 but was coaxed back by Dinny Cahill at the start of this year.

Cahill, who started his second stint as Antrim manager last Autumn, was keen to get Watson back on board after the player was dropped by previous bosses Sambo McNaughton and Dominic McKinley for playing soccer.

Antrim will face Offaly in the Leinster Championship at Parnell Park on 30 May.

Watson has played for Irish League team Donegal Celtic in recent seasons and helped the west Belfast side achieve promotion to the Carling Irish Premiership.

Friday's Antrim county board statement said that the squad had trained in Randalstown on Thursday night.

"It was a very intensive session where all the current squad players were available and trained," added the statement.

After winning their opening National League games against Carlow and Kildare, Antrim suffered a slump and the Saffrons will go into the Leinster Championship clash with few pundits expecting them to trouble Offaly

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 01:32:02 PM
Was only a matter of time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
Ding seeing Red and winker walking away just when he's needed....history has a habit of repeating itself doesn't it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 01:40:02 PM
Is there an element of self protection in this move? Doesnt want to be shown up in the match next week?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2010, 02:26:20 PM
Can anyone tell us when watson has performed well for the county in a big game? His whole career has been dogged by bust ups/walk outs/ill discipline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:28:30 PM
Never, never and never!

He scored a big score against Dunloy in a county final years ago now and is still living off the back of it, dont forget he ended up on the losing team that day and has hardly done a tap since.

If Dinny couldnt keep him inline with his cotton wool and laid back approach then no one could. Maybe throwing his shoulder firmly behind the loughgiel cause now with all the big men involved behind the scenes there now  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 21, 2010, 07:08:56 PM
When is the last time anyone performed for the county in a "big game" ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on May 21, 2010, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2010, 02:28:30 PM
Never, never and never!

He scored a big score against Dunloy in a county final years ago now and is still living off the back of it, dont forget he ended up on the losing team that day and has hardly done a tap since.

If Dinny couldnt keep him inline with his cotton wool and laid back approach then no one could. Maybe throwing his shoulder firmly behind the loughgiel cause now with all the big men involved behind the scenes there now  ;)


NAG1  - what a life you live, constantly making snide remarks about other clubs.  What is your problem?  you are certainly a larger than life character with not a lot going on between those BIG rosy cheeks. 
your statement 'never, never, never' means that not only do you sound like the big man, you also act and look like him.  and funny enough you retired around the same time as him.

go and catch yourself on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2010, 11:57:03 PM
Good man Liam. You train and play all year and then one week before the championship you walk out.

What was the point in this guy wasting his own and everyone elses time if this is what he was going to do?

Again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 12:10:50 AM
Heard he was stag do this weekend and no reason why he's dropped out. Why did he go to the players rep as well. Why didn't he go direct to the management team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 22, 2010, 11:45:48 AM
Lets weigh this up......

Going on a stag do     or     playing hurling for your county in a Leinster Championship(2nd biggest stage for a hurler)

:o I know what I would pick.

Waste of forum time this boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 22, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 12:10:50 AM
Heard he was stag do this weekend and no reason why he's dropped out. Why did he go to the players rep as well. Why didn't he go direct to the management team?

I heard that he was at the training in Randalstown on Thursday night, had a bit of a bust up with Colm McBride during the in house match and the pair of them were sent off.   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: gelvis on May 22, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 12:10:50 AM
Heard he was stag do this weekend and no reason why he's dropped out. Why did he go to the players rep as well. Why didn't he go direct to the management team?

I heard that he was at the training in Randalstown on Thursday night, had a bit of a bust up with Colm McBride during the in house match and the pair of them were sent off.   ::)
Aye he stuck the head in Colm McBride and there was a melée, allied to that I heard Dick O'Kane and Gareth Magee were close to boxing too. I love to see that passion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 22, 2010, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 22, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: gelvis on May 22, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 12:10:50 AM
Heard he was stag do this weekend and no reason why he's dropped out. Why did he go to the players rep as well. Why didn't he go direct to the management team?

I heard that he was at the training in Randalstown on Thursday night, had a bit of a bust up with Colm McBride during the in house match and the pair of them were sent off.   ::)
Aye he stuck the head in Colm McBride and there was a melée, allied to that I heard Dick O'Kane and Gareth Magee were close to boxing too. I love to see that passion.

Comedy. How does a melee work at country training? If you're on the opposing team in an in house match from your club mate and marking him do you turn round and whack him?!
Might see if I can find out the schedule for training next week and pop along...

Kilkenny's hard-hitting training sessions have now become the stuff of legend...but its kept in house.
Both Fergal Doc and Skinner Bradley lined out after a bit of a scuffle last week.
But we've lost our most talented hurler possibly because of a training spat.
Says something about us...but then again if he did 'put the head in him' (with helmets on I assume?).
We never fail to disappoint.

I have a new approach to my supporting of Antrim. Complete and utter sheer unadulterated pessimism.
If we do anything, absolutely anything, I'll have a good summer. A goal in the match against Offaly and it'll be the summer of my life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
Watson has this tag of being our most talented hurler which hasn't been proven at any level. Give me mcmanus, graffin, shane and shorty any day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 23, 2010, 12:47:53 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
Watson has this tag of being our most talented hurler which hasn't been proven at any level. Give me mcmanus, graffin, shane and shorty any day.

Colonel, Winker is a lot of things but he is also twice the player Shane McNaughton is. Not sure why you mentioned Graffin as he is a back.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 23, 2010, 01:10:05 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 23, 2010, 12:47:53 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 22, 2010, 10:10:53 PM
Watson has this tag of being our most talented hurler which hasn't been proven at any level. Give me mcmanus, graffin, shane and shorty any day.

Colonel, Winker is a lot of things but he is also twice the player Shane McNaughton is. Not sure why you mentioned Graffin as he is a back.......
He means any Cushendall player on the county team. Shorty takes the bad look off it. Just.

If Watson doesn't want to know then this should be the end of the experiment with him. Good player but the wrong temperament.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.

Minders only annoyed you didnt mention Glenariffe players.........oh, and also hes an idiot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
Watson is due to be back at county training on Tuesday night maybe just needed the weekend off cant think why.

Thing is Offaly are still at a very low ebb and would be there for the taking with some decent preparation but this doesnt seem to be the case at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 09:35:14 AM
Quote from: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.

Minders only annoyed you didnt mention Glenariffe players.........oh, and also hes an idiot.

Mmm considering there are no Glenariffe players up with the county I am not sure why he would have.Yep I really crave recognition for Glenariffe players on an internet discussion board, it really is essential. You really are a 24 carat p***k.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Minder is that a coincidence to your good start to the season? That you have no players playing and training with the county set up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 09:56:30 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Minder is that a coincidence to your good start to the season? That you have no players playing and training with the county set up?

Might be, I do think the standard isn't great either though and some of our fellas seem to have cut out the slabbering to the ref, (Tosh excluded!), which we have always been desperate for. They get punished at training now if the ref moves the ball forward for dissent. It is still very early in the year and I dont think there will be much between us and Ballycastle in the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 10:03:03 AM
Bit of tongue in cheek there Minder

But I would have to agree that I think you will be able for the town come championship time. Have always looked at your team and thought there was way more potential in it if someone could instil some discipline on a few different levels. The way games are at the moment ildiscipline will cost you most matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.

Minders only annoyed you didnt mention Glenariffe players.........oh, and also hes an idiot.

Glenarriffe jelousy or hatred for cushendall, there's something new
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.
Minders only annoyed you didnt mention Glenariffe players.........oh, and also hes an idiot.

Glenarriffe jelousy or hatred for cushendall, there's something new

So if someone doesent agree with you it is "hatred" and "jealousy", interesting analysis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 24, 2010, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Quote from: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 23, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
It was mentioned as talented hurlers, not talented forwards. Minder to say he's twice the hurler shane is way over the top. Watson may be talented, but I'd rather have the boys previously mentioned because you know exactly what your getting from them. They'll not let you down. They have done it consistently for us on big days, as shorty has for dunloy. And yes 3 hurl for us (thank god) but that just shouldn't sway my opinion.
Minders only annoyed you didnt mention Glenariffe players.........oh, and also hes an idiot.

Glenarriffe jelousy or hatred for cushendall, there's something new

So if someone doesent agree with you it is "hatred" and "jealousy", interesting analysis.

dont know and dont care about the hatred thing etc, etc - i just think your an idiot.

its little wonder this discussion board and this thread in particular has a bad name with idiot's like you on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 12:22:43 PM
Minder its as interesting as your analysis that watson is twice the hurler of shane which is complete bull
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
What problems do you have with the thread in particular Shrek ? Have you ever offered or proffessed an opinion on anything vaguely related to Antrim hurling on it ? Maybe you could clean it up on behalf of Dr Mc Sparran. I have a feeling though you wouldn't know what end of a hurl to use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 12:22:43 PM
Minder its as interesting as your analysis that watson is twice the hurler of shane which is complete bull

My opinion and your opinion........ Yet mine is driven by "jealousy" and "hatred". Just because someone doesent agree with you doesent mean there is anything personal or sinister at hand. If I say I think McManus is a fantastic player would that placate you at all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on May 24, 2010, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 24, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
What problems do you have with the thread in particular Shrek ? Have you ever offered or proffessed an opinion on anything vaguely related to Antrim hurling on it ? Maybe you could clean it up on behalf of Dr Mc Sparran. I have a feeling though you wouldn't know what end of a hurl to use.

Where did i say i had a problem with this thread, there is quite a lot of very sensible people with very good opinions on this thread (unlike yourself)

So does the fact that i never really hurled or dont come from a hurling club means i know nothing about the game?

i could post that last statement about your good self as well and also i have plenty of my own opnions about the good Doc which i will not post here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 24, 2010, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
Watson is due to be back at county training on Tuesday night maybe just needed the weekend off cant think why.



Is this a wind-up????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
No its not a wind up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 03:44:29 PM
i think your so far of the mark in the comparisons, so there must be an alternative motive. and of course mcmanus is a fantastic hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 03:44:29 PM
i think your so far of the mark in the comparisons, so there must be an alternative motive. and of course mcmanus is a fantastic hurler

You can have whatever conspiracy theories you like but I don't think I am the only one outside Cushendall that thinks Watson is a far better player than McNaughton.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 24, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 24, 2010, 12:42:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
Watson is due to be back at county training on Tuesday night maybe just needed the weekend off cant think why.



Is this a wind-up????????????

Antrim county board should apply for an injunction against him. >:( >:( >:( Shouldnt be within 1 mile of casement grounds or county players. He's a great hurler but can anybody other than myself not see what its doing to us preparing for Offaly. When a nonder god are we going to learn. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 24, 2010, 04:04:43 PM
Think we need a top trumps scoring system to find some common ground in this pointless point of debate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 24, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 24, 2010, 03:44:29 PM
i think your so far of the mark in the comparisons, so there must be an alternative motive. and of course mcmanus is a fantastic hurler

A statement beginning with "I think" does not logically lead to "there must".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2010, 04:21:06 PM
It's very simple. Antrim's preparations have been shite and i think that will reflect in the scoreline this Sunday. if we don't improve then we may even get caught out in Ulster.

I'll be there in Parnell Park cheering the lads on, as I've done for many games but i can't see us getting over the line against a beatable Offaly team. we had 18 away on a bonding trip the other week!! whats that say about players attitudes towards playing for their county.

As for Watson he is a quality player and so is Shane. both have there own strong points, if your looking a player with serious pace then Shane has it over Watson(though Watson is fast when on the ball). if your looking a player who can get 2-14 (albeit a lot from frees) in a game then Watson is your man.


who's the best? well that depends on what you like or want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
Yeah they are different horses for different courses but both on their day can be match winners.

Porblem is how could we get four more like them and get them playing in a functioning forward line for Antrim at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
they are there we just need to instill some work ethic and belief. at the minute i feel 60 percent of the squad don't give a hoot!!

your a long time not playing hurling and by fook i'm holding on by my finger tips as i love the sport, these guys have the best set up Antrims ever had in terms of being looked after. and what happens?? they cant be bothered.

if you feel that the trainings too hard and the weekends away playing challenge match and league games is too much then step away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2010, 05:21:55 PM
Is the Antrim match on the tv?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
We finally got our first win last night against our nearest and dearest neighbours Ballycran.

2-17 to 2-10 it ended up in what was a keanly contested game if lacking a bit of quality at times. Big Magic was unworkable with Ballycran struggling to get him stopped. He's now starting to find his team mates with passes which in the longer term will give himself more room to operate. A few of our minors are starting to find their feet at this level so its not all doom and gloom however once we lose two or three to injury and the likes we're very weak from the bench, Ballycran ditto.

Have to say Tommy McIntyre did a good job and even though there was a bit of skulduggery going on the odd time, had it under control.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2010, 11:35:31 AM
Thats a big result after a shakey enough start for the 'Galget'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2010, 12:28:42 PM
Tommy Mac can be a top class referee, but I've watched plenty of games involving ourselves where his officiating has been brutal. He's meant to protect the players but some of the challenges (where there been blatent intent to injury) he's let go is shocking at times. Seems to be the further he goes south the better he gets. Maybe thats a jaundiced view but I'm trying hard not to be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
Think that goes for a few of the refs cant spot the most dangerous blatant fouls in the games but yet pull the more techincal fouls all day long. I would be for letting a few of the more borderline technical stuff go (ala Munster and south in general) and clamping down on the more seriously dangerous pulls and slaps.

I would like to see a panel of the refs come together with a group of players/ officals not in a confrontational manner but just to have a chat about where they are coming from and see if they can learn from the players and vice versa. It happens alot in professional sports so why couldnt it happen here if it would improve the standard across the board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 25, 2010, 07:03:26 PM

Heard Dinny at the weekend, says Watson's definately not left the panel.  Apparantly hes had the stag organised for 8 months and is going to be the best man and everything.  All signs point to him being on the bench for the Offaly game and brought on before half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 26, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
We finally got our first win last night against our nearest and dearest neighbours Ballycran.

2-17 to 2-10 it ended up in what was a keanly contested game if lacking a bit of quality at times. Big Magic was unworkable with Ballycran struggling to get him stopped. He's now starting to find his team mates with passes which in the longer term will give himself more room to operate. A few of our minors are starting to find their feet at this level so its not all doom and gloom however once we lose two or three to injury and the likes we're very weak from the bench, Ballycran ditto.

Have to say Tommy McIntyre did a good job and even though there was a bit of skulduggery going on the odd time, had it under control.

That was a bad result for Ballycastle last night leaving them adrift at the bottom of the league. We know Ballycran and Ballygalget are near neighbours and matches are generally tight between them but going on the form book i would have fancied Ballycran. Ballycastle will have to get the results now rather than rely on other teams staying down there with them.

Johnneycool whats the story with Big Magic? The papers have been saying recently that he was unavailable for Down as he is going to the States but he has been playing away for the club obviously. Im sure Down could have done with him last weekend against Westmeath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2010, 12:07:12 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 26, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
We finally got our first win last night against our nearest and dearest neighbours Ballycran.

2-17 to 2-10 it ended up in what was a keanly contested game if lacking a bit of quality at times. Big Magic was unworkable with Ballycran struggling to get him stopped. He's now starting to find his team mates with passes which in the longer term will give himself more room to operate. A few of our minors are starting to find their feet at this level so its not all doom and gloom however once we lose two or three to injury and the likes we're very weak from the bench, Ballycran ditto.

Have to say Tommy McIntyre did a good job and even though there was a bit of skulduggery going on the odd time, had it under control.

That was a bad result for Ballycastle last night leaving them adrift at the bottom of the league. We know Ballycran and Ballygalget are near neighbours and matches are generally tight between them but going on the form book i would have fancied Ballycran. Ballycastle will have to get the results now rather than rely on other teams staying down there with them.

Johnneycool whats the story with Big Magic? The papers have been saying recently that he was unavailable for Down as he is going to the States but he has been playing away for the club obviously. Im sure Down could have done with him last weekend against Westmeath.

i wouldn't worry Fairhead, leagues will surely change if that was to happen. ;) after all it was Ballycastle that offered the current format which St Johns (now a division two team) backed. hopefully a bit of Karma will head towards the 'towns' way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 26, 2010, 10:48:20 AM
Antrim team for Sunday

Seems strange to move Neil inside when he had been going well at Centre Forward in the league. Karl at corner forward seems strange but the rest of the team is as good as available. Prob see Watson at half time or before

Thomas McCann is the only debutant in the Antrim team for Sunday's Ulster SHC quarter-final against Offaly at Parnell Park.

McCann, who plays for Creggan in Division 4B of the Antrim league, has been named at centre forward on a team that shows seven changes from that which lost to the Faithful County in last year's meaningless All-Ireland SHC relegation playoff at the same venue.

The other changes from that side are goalkeeper Gareth McGhee, wing back Neal McAuley, captain and midfielder Paul Shiels, wing forward Eddie McCloskey and full forward Neil McManus.

Antrim manager Dinny Cahill is hoping to be able to call on the services of Liam Watson at the weekend, despite reports that he was axed from the squad last week. The Tipperary native insists that Offaly hold a vital edge in terms of experience.

"This (Antrim) team is a complete new team, sure there are a lot of young players there, and it'll be a great experience for them on Sunday," he said.

"I can't comment on Offaly because I didn't see them in the Leinster championship last year, I didn't see them playing any league games this year. All I can say about Offaly is of the older players who have been there over the years, like the Hanniffys."

Antrim (SH v Offaly): G McGhee; K McGourty, C Donnelly, A Graffin; N McAuley, J Campbell, C Herron; P Shiels, K Stewart; E McCloskey, T McCann, J Scullion; S McNaughton, N McManus, K McKeegan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 26, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
about the strongest team available without winker, will be interesting to see how T McCann gets on, fair play to him, its a long way from Division 4B to the Leinster Senior Hurling Championship.

Can't see Karl staying aat 15, surely the intention must be to rove out the field, even play behind the midfield to allow two very attacking midfielders get forward.  Would also open up a very dangerous 2 man full forward line, pace and power.

And 7 clubs represented - not a bad spread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on May 26, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Who is T McCann?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 26, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
Wasn't expecting Karl to play there either

Thomas McCann is from Creggan, think he's only 20 or so.

If they fire ball into Neil, he will compete in the air, with Shane to use his pace to get the breaks ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 26, 2010, 03:31:32 PM
I don't think thats a bad side on paper although I don't think shorty is ready for midfield myself after coming back from a years lay off. His touch is still good but he hasn't yet got the speed endurance to do the right work in this area of the pitch at the minute (think he went back to intercounty a year too soon). Should be inside where he can still do damage and Karl brought out IMO. Haven't seen Thomas McCann hurl at senior level yet but I wish him all the best. I did see him a few times when he was under 16 and a nicer more committed athlete you would never meet. He was every bit a hurler back then so I expect him to be up to the task
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 26, 2010, 04:15:14 PM
Seen him against Carlow, he caught a few good balls, good hand on him, but wasn't that effective from there. Hopefully a couple more months trainingwith better players will have brought him on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2010, 04:27:21 PM
will the Offaly players who are missing the match (due to injury) give us some hope?

young Dooley will punish any frees from 65 in. They are also in transition but still managed to keep Tipp to a one point loss.

i doubt Karl will play at fullforward, this is a defensive move that may work out for us. but there has to be good quality ball going in otherwise they will have time to pick out players and set up their own attack.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 27, 2010, 10:22:45 AM
Thomas is undoubtedly good in the air and I fully expect him to get a decent amount of possession under a dropping ball, hope he does well. Good to see a player from the "little leagues" have the ambition to give it a rattle at the top level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 27, 2010, 03:30:40 PM
Has Karl not been playing for the dall at corner forward this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 27, 2010, 03:48:39 PM
I've always thought Antrim need to be more direct in their hurling against the better teams, i.e cut out the solo running from the half backs, midfield etc and let the ball into the forwards earlier and not just aimless high balls.

There'll be plenty of running to be done without the ball so save yourself for that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 27, 2010, 06:30:06 PM
As DJ used to say, "Any fecin ball is a good ball, just get it in here" ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 30, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Half Time Antrim 3.09 Offaly 1.12

Two late goals by Colm McFall and Karl McKeegan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 30, 2010, 04:53:16 PM
10 mins to go, Antrim 3.14 Offaly 1.18

Offaly piling on pressure and had a goal disallowed.  Offaly also had a man sent off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 30, 2010, 05:07:04 PM
Full Time Antrim 3.15 Offaly 1.21 (Extra Time to be played)

Shane Dooley free in the last second of injury time to level it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Where's all the critics now......that performance put all the experts in their boxes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 01, 2010, 10:26:09 AM
What you talking about Onthehill?

Yes the boys played well, but its same old story couldnt close it out when it mattered. 5 up with 5 to go?

We all knew that Dinny is all about the championship and we also knew that Offaly are no where near the power they were a few years back so this was always a more realistic chance of getting a result. More so than the Dublin match last year IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 01, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Where's all the critics now......that performance put all the experts in their boxes.

I think that a county of Antrims stature and playing resources should start to move on from the days of glorious defeat against a team like Offaly and not be content until you are beating them on a regular basis. One good performance a summer which ultimately ended in defeat needs to be followed up by a another good performance and victory in the qualifiers for Antrim hurling to move on. Its a young enough team and all the 'well done' claps on the back this week may be counter productive in the longer term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 01, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Where's all the critics now......that performance put all the experts in their boxes.

I think that a county of Antrims stature and playing resources should start to move on from the days of glorious defeat against a team like Offaly and not be content until you are beating them on a regular basis. One good performance a summer which ultimately ended in defeat needs to be followed up by a another good performance and victory in the qualifiers for Antrim hurling to move on. Its a young enough team and all the 'well done' claps on the back this week may be counter productive in the longer term.

Onthehill
Not that I believe I'm one of the critics you're referring to but, in reference to johnny's comments would you give us your own assessment of where Antrim are now as a result of Sundays defeat? Would you not agree that the great display given on Sunday needs to be shown to be repeatable or improved upon before it is a correct judgement to say that we really have moved on?
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 01, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2010, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Where's all the critics now......that performance put all the experts in their boxes.

I think that a county of Antrims stature and playing resources should start to move on from the days of glorious defeat against a team like Offaly and not be content until you are beating them on a regular basis. One good performance a summer which ultimately ended in defeat needs to be followed up by a another good performance and victory in the qualifiers for Antrim hurling to move on. Its a young enough team and all the 'well done' claps on the back this week may be counter productive in the longer term.

Onthehill
Not that I believe I'm one of the critics you're referring to but, in reference to johnny's comments would you give us your own assessment of where Antrim are now as a result of Sundays defeat? Would you not agree that the great display given on Sunday needs to be shown to be repeatable or improved upon before it is a correct judgement to say that we really have moved on?


Yes lads I agree with you 100%. They need to be playing at this level all the time. Although we lost the game, I now can catergorically say to all the people that doubted, we're there or there abouts.  What I was getting at was that prior to the game and I suppose during the league there was critisism from every angle about performances of players and generally the 'state' of the senior team was IMO wrong. There was also criticism of Dinny and the management which was totally personal.

I have just read Karl McKeegans interview in the Irish news today and he talks about the level this management are capable of bringing them to.  He says the feel alot better as a team and the hurling is at a speed it should be.

Here's hoping we can get a favourable draw in the qualifiers - Loais or Wexford would be a good draw. I know we could take them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 01, 2010, 03:44:37 PM
Criticism of the league was well merited. We were not competing at any level during the league, the point being that Antrim dont get many matches during a calendar year and we should be making the most of every opportunity.

I am not being critical and I applaud the endevaour that went in on Sunday and all the preparation in the lead up to it, but at the same time IMO we were playing a suspect Offaly side in a ground that suited Antrim. Now the talent is around in Antrim and Dinny is a good coach but we need to be pushing on and making this a regualr occurance rather than a flash in the pan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 01, 2010, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 01, 2010, 03:44:37 PM
Criticism of the league was well merited. We were not competing at any level during the league, the point being that Antrim don't get many matches during a calendar year and we should be making the most of every opportunity.

I am not being critical and I applaud the endeavour that went in on Sunday and all the preparation in the lead up to it, but at the same time IMO we were playing a suspect Offaly side in a ground that suited Antrim. Now the talent is around in Antrim and Dinny is a good coach but we need to be pushing on and making this a regular occurrence rather than a flash in the pan.

Agreed. This is good constructive criticism. This is what we should be doing rather than having a go all the time. I would like them to be actively going for the league next year. Put more of a focus on it. It should be remembered that Sunday was the first game we had our best fifteen together and out on the park(which could be debated).  We missed three games in the league by a point. If we would have won these we would have been in a league final.  That full team would have beaten Westmeath, Clare and Down on them days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2010, 06:12:49 PM
Onthehill, we are constructive, not everyone will agree with some of the things said here, that doesn't mean we are having a go all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on June 02, 2010, 01:59:19 AM
Unlucky against offaly but i think dinny knows now who his real big game players are, (mcmanus, mcnaughton etc.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 04, 2010, 03:02:22 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   
Glenariffe    Dunloy            Glenariffe           06/06/2010   13:00   Liam McAuley           Round 6   
Ballygalget    Cushendall    Ballygalget   06/06/2010   15:00   Francis Traynor   Round 6   
Portaferry    Loughgiel    Portaferry   06/06/2010   15:00   Declan Magee   Round 6   
Ballycastle    Ballycran            Ballycastle   06/06/2010   19:30   TBC    Round 6   


What's the odds on 4 away wins this weekend although we'd hope to give the Dall a run especially if they've a load of U-21's playing the previous evening?

We'd be hoping that the Cran's do us a favour and take the points of Ballycastle as theyr'e our main relegation threats.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 05, 2010, 05:13:58 PM
From county website ;U21 Hurling Championship

Due to a death in the Cushendall club tonights u21 Hurling semi final between Ballycastle and Cushendall has been posponed

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 04, 2010, 03:02:22 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   
Glenariffe    Dunloy            Glenariffe           06/06/2010   13:00   Liam McAuley           Round 6   
Ballygalget    Cushendall    Ballygalget   06/06/2010   15:00   Francis Traynor   Round 6   
Portaferry    Loughgiel    Portaferry   06/06/2010   15:00   Declan Magee   Round 6   
Ballycastle    Ballycran            Ballycastle   06/06/2010   19:30   TBC    Round 6   


What's the odds on 4 away wins this weekend although we'd hope to give the Dall a run especially if they've a load of U-21's playing the previous evening?

We'd be hoping that the Cran's do us a favour and take the points of Ballycastle as theyr'e our main relegation threats.

Johnny stop worrying, should Ballycastle face the drop there will be a change to the league ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
Beat by St Endas today, great first half then descended into a slabbering match towards the referee!!!! kids now days seem to be more into shouting at the referee than wanting the ball!!!

seniors failed the field against Tir na og :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2010, 08:21:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
Beat by St Endas today, great first half then descended into a slabbering match towards the referee!!!! kids now days seem to be more into shouting at the referee than wanting the ball!!!

seniors failed the field against Tir na og :-[
any reason?? Sad to hear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
just lack of players available today . didn't know till i turned up for the seconds.

We'll be fine for championship and we'll give loughgiel a rattle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2010, 09:04:36 PM
Laois / Carlow in the hurling.

As good as could be hoped for. Both those teams have come on a lot so won't be easy either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2010, 09:25:46 PM
No gimmies really at this stage. Laois have turned us over lately and Carlow are no mugs lately. want a big turn out for this game. an maybe Clare in the next game to gt us to a quarter final!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 06, 2010, 09:31:11 PM
jeyz lads I'm excited about this summer. I think we should take Loais/Carlow.  Although they will be tough...I'm nearly sure they beat us in the league this year.  Win this game and we have another winnable game probably against the likes of Dublin, Clare, Offaly and Limerick (these are predictions of the forth coming semi final losers in munster and leinster) going by the GAA main website.

Then who knows a trip to jones road.....AONTROIM ABU :o :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 09:49:29 AM
I'm gonna save my money for the next round seeing as this next game is a gimme. If Antrim went into that game with the same attitude I'd get the missus something nice with the money I didn't have to spend

Anyone out and about at games yesterday? Dunloy beat Glenariffe very easily in the end. Half way through the first half they were making a real game of it picking off 4/5 unanswered points and were maybe 5 up at a point but we streadied the ship before halftime and pushed on after that. Johnny T got a straight red 10/15 minutes into the second half but in truth the game was only going one way at that point. Enjoyable game in a beatiful setting. Expected more from the home side after a good start. Good workman like performance from Dunloy with some great scores taken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 07, 2010, 10:26:03 AM
Would agree with all of that,

firstly on the sudden arrogance thinking we should beat a team that spanked us at home in the league (thats if its Laois).  I think given the performance against Offaly we can have genuine belief going into the game but Laois have also been very much on an upward curve, good performance last year against Limerick, where competitive in each league match and by all accounts made a real game of the Dublin match.

A victory for antrim will be hard earned.

On the Dunloy and Glenarriffe game, pretty much as described, Dunloy held the initiative led against a fairly strong breeze but conceded a goal, this energized the home team and they rattled off a couple more long range scores, the midfielders (No8) scored a super point at this stage.  Dunloy reasserted themselves to go in a point up at the break with a strong breeze to play with.

Only going to be one winner in second half and this was confirmed when Tosh got himself sent off, this could potentially wreck glenarriffe fine start to the season if he gets a long suspension.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 07, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
I dont think the Laois or Carlow match will be easy,far from it....but the draw could have been so much worse....we got a home draw & we avoided Tipp. The players now know they have a chance,whether we win is a differant story with 2/3 missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 10:35:37 AM
The Dall were that bit better than us yesterday and were getting their scores easier over the hour even though we went in at half time slightly up aided by a stiff breeze. Our lead was decimated by a goal scored off a rebounded 21- yard save just before half time and I think that reduced it to 2 points. The Dall took control in the second half, picking off their points well and we never really troubled their keeper enough to get the goals we needed. We strangley moved our only scoring forward out of the forwards into a sweeping role which worked to an extent as he got on a lot of ball but left magic too far out the field to get us the goal we needed. None of the other forwards were able to get past their respective opponents and at best were only getting the odd point.

From our POV we need to get some of our players back fit and well as we don't have the strength in depth at the minute to do without them.

The Dall only needed to be OK yesterday, but I can't get round the Karl McKeegan in fullforward move as he didn't do an awful lot yesterday and Shane Mcnaughton didn't get a look in at corner forward but had more joy in midfield where we were really weak with a 19 year old and complete novice to this level not proving too much resistance. McManus in undoubtedly a good hurler but this first instinct is to run and maybe that starves his inside men of good ball. He could indulge himself yesterday but I'd suggest he'd need to vary the game a bit more.

Bloody Ballycastle went and won yesterday, Crans have lost their start of season form a bit and probalby struggled with a big, physical Ballycastle team.
The Ports put Loughgiel to the sword which I was surprised at as the Ports still haven't a plan B in their forwards if Dule is curtailed. They must be getting their scores from somewhere!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 10:43:08 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 07, 2010, 10:26:05 AM
I dont think the Laois or Carlow match will be easy,far from it....but the draw could have been so much worse....we got a home draw & we avoided Tipp. The players now know they have a chance,whether we win is a differant story with 2/3 missing.

Some teams seem to under perform when expected to win and although Antrim drew with Carlow and got beat by Laois in the league the expectations are on them to win against either at home.

It's a real banana skin for Dinny and he'll need to get that across to the players and one of the reasons the glorious defeat versus Offaly will need to flushed out of their minds. It's in the past and their year will hinge on this game rather than the one in Parnell park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 07, 2010, 10:57:10 AM
Couple of eye opening results this weekend, Ballycran losing to Ballycastle was a surprise alright going on recent form, i do think Ballycastle are far from the weakest team in the division and it may be a case of them training to peak in championship time.

Portaferry beating Loughgiel is a big surprise for me, the portaferry we played this year were very poor with little threat up front, i doubt they have improved alot since then and will be a force again come the down championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 10:59:22 AM
Totally correct JC

These are the games that Antrim have to start putting away on a regular basis before can even look to the next level of Offaly Wexford Limerick and Clare.

What dates are planned for these qualifiers and the Ulster Championship, hows the club games going to be affected?

Yeah what happend the Shams on sunday then, Portaferry have been pretty poor thus far, bit of a suprise there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 07, 2010, 11:08:28 AM
That's one each for us Milltown ;), both teams a few short of their starting 15 which showed at times. When some of your lads started debating with the ref I knew it was over for yous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 07, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Is Tosh having some sort of mid life crisis at the minute? Seems to be getting the line on a regular basis recently. I have seen him get a bit agitated at times, mainly aimed at his team mates if they haven't picked him out and struck a long range shot wide instead. He surely didn't get the red for mouthing yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 07, 2010, 11:28:36 AM
No red was for use of the elbow under a dropping ball, was sent off against Loughgiel for 2 yellows, does than mean his suspension will be doubled as a result?

It would be a shame for Glenarriffe if he did get a lengthy ban
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 07, 2010, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Is Tosh having some sort of mid life crisis at the minute? Seems to be getting the line on a regular basis recently. I have seen him get a bit agitated at times, mainly aimed at his team mates if they haven't picked him out and struck a long range shot wide instead. He surely didn't get the red for mouthing yesterday?

A load of old boll***s, were you there????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
I confess I didn't see it (so am most likely wrong) but I thought it sounded more like a stick than an elbow at the time. I'd say frustration seems to play a large part in JT's disiplinary woes. I'd have expected a boy with his experience to have mellowed out by now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 07, 2010, 11:42:26 AM
Have to agree. Johnny Tosh should be older and wiser by now.  Last year he let his club mates down against Dunloy in the semi's by getting sent off(after having a good game too). Came back to the county scene this year and left again. Got sent of against Loughgiel. And now got sent off again yesterday.

Mid life crisis could be a fair reflection.

News boys a newbie like me but he cant spell his clubs name right???? ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2010, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
I confess I didn't see it (so am most likely wrong) but I thought it sounded more like a stick than an elbow at the time. I'd say frustration seems to play a large part in JT's disiplinary woes. I'd have expected a boy with his experience to have mellowed out by now.

Mate said it sounded like a stick and my only other mate said it wasn't the stick. Herbie has him down for deliberate striking so 3 months and possibly more for repeat offending. Now that he is no longer with the county the ban will not mysteriously be quashed !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
I confess I didn't see it (so am most likely wrong) but I thought it sounded more like a stick than an elbow at the time. I'd say frustration seems to play a large part in JT's disiplinary woes. I'd have expected a boy with his experience to have mellowed out by now.


Jaysus, don't know there skull, some mellow, some go the opposite and I think our minds play tricks with us older players. We'd be giving off to a young fella for doing something silly when in all likelihood we made the same mistakes 20 odd years previous but have chosen to blank that from our minds as we never made mistakes don't you know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
Be a shame if this is the way he is going to finish out his career all the same.

Real nice guy and would say most GAA people would have a good word for him.

He had a talent that should have lead the line for Antrim for 5-6 years, just could never get around the mental aspect of the game. Real shame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
In fairness to Johnny I think when you are supremely talented and ambitious in a squad where many don't share those ambitions then frustration could develop quite easily. I do think Oisins are getting thier act together this year after a good finish to last season...they just need to keep doing what they're doing and not expect too much too soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
In fairness to Johnny I think when you are supremely talented and ambitious in a squad where many don't share those ambitions then frustration could develop quite easily. I do think Oisins are getting thier act together this year after a good finish to last season...they just need to keep doing what they're doing and not expect too much too soon.

Aye but time isn't on his side. Tosh must be the wrong side of 35 by now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2010, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
In fairness to Johnny I think when you are supremely talented and ambitious in a squad where many don't share those ambitions then frustration could develop quite easily. I do think Oisins are getting thier act together this year after a good finish to last season...they just need to keep doing what they're doing and not expect too much too soon.

Aye but time isn't on his side. Tosh must be the wrong side of 35 by now.

He is 31 JC so he isn't finished just yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 01:54:13 PM
He is def older than 31 but thats neither here nor there, he is in good shape and takes care of himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on June 07, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 01:54:13 PM
He is def older than 31 but thats neither here nor there, he is in good shape and takes care of himself

Tosh is 31.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 01:54:13 PM
He is def older than 31 but thats neither here nor there, he is in good shape and takes care of himself

Trust me Nag, he is 31.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Its getting hard to listen to the Glenariffe lads about the championship now.  They had their best game of the year against Dunloy last year and still couldn't beat Dunloy (who probably played one of their worst games of the summer in Loughgiel that night) and now they reckon they're a shoe in to beat Cushendall in this years final.  Too many boys think they are twice the hurler they actually are.

Will Graffin and Neal McAuley be back for the Laois/Carlow game?  If not, who will come in to replace them in the back lines?  Barry McFall?  Heard Sean Delargy was back at the training for a couple of weeks before packing it in again because he wasn't impressed with the standards of training?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Its getting hard to listen to the Glenariffe lads about the championship now.  They had their best game of the year against Dunloy last year and still couldn't beat Dunloy (who probably played one of their worst games of the summer in Loughgiel that night) and now they reckon they're a shoe in to beat Cushendall in this years final.  Too many boys think they are twice the hurler they actually are.

Will Graffin and Neal McAuley be back for the Laois/Carlow game?  If not, who will come in to replace them in the back lines?  Barry McFall?  Heard Sean Delargy was back at the training for a couple of weeks before packing it in again because he wasn't impressed with the standards of training?

I would love to know what "Glenariffe lads" you have been talking to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 02:16:28 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Will Graffin and Neal McAuley be back for the Laois/Carlow game?  If not, who will come in to replace them in the back lines?  Barry McFall?  Heard Sean Delargy was back at the training for a couple of weeks before packing it in again because he wasn't impressed with the standards of training?

The Dunloy lads think the training is good this year...but then what would they know  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
I would also question a player joining any panel at this time of the year.

Plus who would SD be to be giving out about the standard of training?
The one thing that Dinny does bring is a level of training that the players just dont get elsewhere!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 07, 2010, 02:29:14 PM
More that the turn outs to training were poor and that he couldnt give the required commitment to the county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 02:32:24 PM
Then why was he asked back in the first place?

I dont rate him highly enough to be going chasing after him. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 07, 2010, 02:32:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
I would also question a player joining any panel at this time of the year.

Plus who would SD be to be giving out about the standard of training?
The one thing that Dinny does bring is a level of training that the players just dont get elsewhere!

Dinny is a has been!!! The sooner Miltown Row (the original!!!) takes over Antrim Senior Hurling, the better!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 07, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Its getting hard to listen to the Glenariffe lads about the championship now.  They had their best game of the year against Dunloy last year and still couldn't beat Dunloy (who probably played one of their worst games of the summer in Loughgiel that night) and now they reckon they're a shoe in to beat Cushendall in this years final.  Too many boys think they are twice the hurler they actually are.

Will Graffin and Neal McAuley be back for the Laois/Carlow game?  If not, who will come in to replace them in the back lines?  Barry McFall?  Heard Sean Delargy was back at the training for a couple of weeks before packing it in again because he wasn't impressed with the standards of training?

I would love to know what "Glenariffe lads" you have been talking to.

A couple or three of those who have been in/out/in/out of the county set up over the last few years...and I'm not referring to the "Holy One"  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 07, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 01:54:13 PM
He is def older than 31 but thats neither here nor there, he is in good shape and takes care of himself

Trust me Nag, he is 31.

I'll have to bow to your greater knowledge but he's had an old head on him for some time now.

I suppose the paper rounds would be hard enough around Waterfoot, hilly auld ground and drive sea winds can't be easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2010, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 07, 2010, 02:32:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 07, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
I would also question a player joining any panel at this time of the year.

Plus who would SD be to be giving out about the standard of training?
The one thing that Dinny does bring is a level of training that the players just dont get elsewhere!

Dinny is a has been!!! The sooner Miltown Row (the original!!!) takes over Antrim Senior Hurling, the better!!!!!

WUM of the highest  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 07, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 07, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Its getting hard to listen to the Glenariffe lads about the championship now.  They had their best game of the year against Dunloy last year and still couldn't beat Dunloy (who probably played one of their worst games of the summer in Loughgiel that night) and now they reckon they're a shoe in to beat Cushendall in this years final.  Too many boys think they are twice the hurler they actually are.

Will Graffin and Neal McAuley be back for the Laois/Carlow game?  If not, who will come in to replace them in the back lines?  Barry McFall?  Heard Sean Delargy was back at the training for a couple of weeks before packing it in again because he wasn't impressed with the standards of
training?

I would love to know what "Glenariffe lads" you have been talking to.

A couple or three of those who have been in/out/in/out of the county set up over the last few years...and I'm not referring to the "Holy One"  ;)

Mmm I was talking to a few of them last weekend and nobody was talking like that, I think they may have been yanking your chain. Our fellas know they have a huge match against Ballycastle and aren't looking any further than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2010, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 07, 2010, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
I confess I didn't see it (so am most likely wrong) but I thought it sounded more like a stick than an elbow at the time. I'd say frustration seems to play a large part in JT's disiplinary woes. I'd have expected a boy with his experience to have mellowed out by now.


Jaysus, don't know there skull, some mellow, some go the opposite and I think our minds play tricks with us older players. We'd be giving off to a young fella for doing something silly when in all likelihood we made the same mistakes 20 odd years previous but have chosen to blank that from our minds as we never made mistakes don't you know.

Dont know if you mellow as you get older, can be very frustrating watching young lads waste ball and yes maybe we did it as young lads so maybe training is the best place to address issues about poor play.

no one really goes out to have a bad game and before the match you know what you want to do with the ball, doesn't always work out. Johnny seems a decent spud and having played against him for many years i've never seen too many wild pulls or slabbering. I've seen plenty of wild pulls on him as he goes for goal, many of the good forwards take some abuse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 07, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 07, 2010, 11:34:32 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Is Tosh having some sort of mid life crisis at the minute? Seems to be getting the line on a regular basis recently. I have seen him get a bit agitated at times, mainly aimed at his team mates if they haven't picked him out and struck a long range shot wide instead. He surely didn't get the red for mouthing yesterday?

A load of old boll***s, were you there????????
My point is based on watching a largely civil character off the pitch over reacting a number of times to things that weren't worth wasting his breath on. If ever there was a man who could let his hurling do the talking.... and no I wasn't at the game. If the back was caught on the wrong side of him I would have sympathy as refs often get the elbow judgement wrong when in effect the back is walking into it, you would see a lot of left handers penalizied for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 07, 2010, 11:23:59 PM
Antrim couldn't have asked for a better draw in the qualifiers. If they put in the same application as they did against Offaly they could hopefully get past Laois/Carlow.

As for the weekend a vital win for Ballycastle and a good team performance to boot. Should do the confidence a world of good and as long as Ballygalget keep losing they should be alright  :P. It was a relief that they actually held on to a lead for a change which had been a problem in some of the earlier games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Was the black and amber a factor at all Fairhead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 08, 2010, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Was the black and amber a factor at all Fairhead?

I would doubt it..........

(http://antrim.gaa.ie/resize.asp?p=1&i=bcastle+v+bcran+A%2EJPG&w=100)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2010, 11:25:59 AM
Big result all the same, what has happened to the Cran men, the seem to have faded completely to the form they had been showing over the last few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2010, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 08, 2010, 11:25:59 AM
Big result all the same, what has happened to the Cran men, the seem to have faded completely to the form they had been showing over the last few years?

They went mad with the fitness and training at the start of the year and I suppose now everyone is starting to catch up.

like ourselves they've a fairly weak bench if a few are injured or exam tied.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 08, 2010, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Was the black and amber a factor at all Fairhead?

Nah id say it was the sight of the red jersies and the thought of the visit next Sunday to the Shamrocks!!!!

Ballycran took at least one player off in the reserve game who started in the senior so maybe they were short a few.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 04:32:20 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 08, 2010, 09:52:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2010, 09:51:33 AM
Was the black and amber a factor at all Fairhead?

Nah id say it was the sight of the red jersies and the thought of the visit next Sunday to the Shamrocks!!!!

Ballycran took at least one player off in the reserve game who started in the senior so maybe they were short a few.

one player!! christ i remember we played ya's in senior and reserve and 8 players that day played both, came in after the reserve game had a drink and a stretch, changed jerseys and ran out for the senior game!!! lost by a point in that game >:(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 09, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
one player!! christ i remember we played ya's in senior and reserve and 8 players that day played both, came in after the reserve game had a drink and a stretch, changed jerseys and ran out for the senior game!!! lost by a point in that game >:(
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Probably quite a few years ago now, Milltown !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2010, 09:01:19 PM
Was the year the County chuck us out of the league!!!

Still playing ya know ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 10, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
Jerry Wallis suffering from Dinnyitus, must be contageous. Tipping Antrim for a Semi spot. I think our own SD caught it a few years ago as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 10, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 10, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
Jerry Wallis suffering from Dinnyitus, must be contageous. Tipping Antrim for a Semi spot. I think our own SD caught it a few years ago as well

Where/to whom was he saying this??????

What's the story on the lads going away - have they gone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 10, 2010, 10:03:09 PM
Its on hoganstand

2 boys went this morning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 11, 2010, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 10, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
Jerry Wallis suffering from Dinnyitus, must be contageous. Tipping Antrim for a Semi spot. I think our own SD caught it a few years ago as well

Its a bit like Dinny a few years ago. They made a heading out of a nothing.  I read the article a couple of times. You have to understand what hes saying about getting to a semi final spot.  Its probably unrealistic at the minute. If the draw was favourable I would say who knows what can happen.  I dont know about the rest of you guys but I would tend to listen to a man that has trained a team to three all irelands.

BTW does anyone know which 'premier counties' he turned down. I know Davy from Waterford asked him to go with him and he turned him down to come to Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2010, 08:53:25 AM
Yeah I think he is coming up with a few IFS and Maybes, thing is why did he need to say this at this point.

IMO after a good performance againsat Offaly, should they not have put their heads down not said a word and attempt to come in under the radar, this is a serious game for them and should not be looked past.

What would give us the right to look past Laois at this stage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2010, 11:44:47 AM
good lads and fair play, they have traveled the length and breadth of Ireland for Antrim in league games in the past, i'm sure they will be representing Antrim next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
MR2 settle down there now, they have both been on the county scene for a couple of seasons max!

Of course they are entitled to go and fair play, but lets not be painting them as stalwarts just yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 11, 2010, 12:26:31 PM
they both been in the squad since they were out of minor and would have had 3years on the squads (maybe this is their 4).

kind of opportunity for them to do now at the end of uni and will be back in september i think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2010, 10:19:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2010, 12:16:48 PM
MR2 settle down there now, they have both been on the county scene for a couple of seasons max!

Of course they are entitled to go and fair play, but lets not be painting them as stalwarts just yet!

certainly not stalwarts, (never said they were) but when you have an opportunity to hit the states for the summer then do it, its some craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
As two county stalwarts depart for America another one returns to the fold.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 12, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
As two county stalwarts depart for America another one returns to the fold.
Heard that...was he only asked back on after the Offaly match? Why not before???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2010, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
As two county stalwarts depart for America another one returns to the fold.

who dat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2010, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
As two county stalwarts depart for America another one returns to the fold.

who dat?

Tosh, aye he was only back on Thursday night. Strange.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 12, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.

And that from a Loughgeil man...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 12, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.

And that from a Loughgeil man...

I would say he is as much from "Loughguille" as the man on the moon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 12, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.

And that from a Loughgeil man...

I would say he is as much from "Loughguille" as the man on the moon.

Andytown i'd say
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: johnneycool on June 13, 2010, 09:29:40 PM
Scraped another two points tonight against the ports. Looked like they'd done enough until big magic bagged a great goal with half their team hanging out of him at the death to put us 2 up. They had only time to pull one back before raymond matthews blew up as one of their players was about to equalise. 4 home games on the bounce now to hopefully get a few more points on the board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
Beat Ballycran by 3 tonight (0-18 - 0-15)in an entertaining game. The crans playing with the breeze notched up I think 7 points before Dunloy registered. Eventually got to grips but still went in 6 down at the break (0-7 - 0-13). After the break with the breeze it took the most of the secong half to break ballycran down as they played an extra man behind their half back line where he was picking up a fair bit of ball.  But their attacking threat disappeared at that point and we worked hard up front to go on an take some nice scores to get over the line. Missing a fair few experienced players tonight so it was great to see those deputising playing such an influencial role in tonights win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 14, 2010, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 12, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.

And that from a Loughgeil man...

I would say he is as much from "Loughguille" as the man on the moon.

Andytown i'd say

WRONG as ever MR!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 14, 2010, 09:34:34 AM
I was in attendence last night at the county Under 21 Final in Armoy  which our boys came out on the wrong side of  :(. 

Suffice to say the better team won on the evening and a real sterling performance by Hippie.  What was dissapointing though is how our county administartors treat our under age finals.  As an example, no national flag, no national anthem,no parade for the young fellas, no fourth offical, no first aiders and worst of all, a county hurling final venue which in my view was no more than a ploughed field!!!   The pitch is an absolute disgrace and does not lend itself to a good hurling playing surface.

Do our young hurlers not deserve all the pomp and paegentry of a band, parade before the game, the nathional anthem, a fourth offical and first aiders in attendance?????   Are our young hurlers, regardless of age not entitled to the same as our seniors?   Ah, but I forgot, this is 'hurling' afterall and is treated as such by our county officlas.

However, a great game of manful and competive hurling for the large crowd.  That boyo 'Duffy' did a good job also in refereeing, let the game flow, played the advantage and contributed to a good fast game.  Congrats to Ballycastle. (and that from a Loughgiel person).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 14, 2010, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 14, 2010, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2010, 12:15:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 12, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 12, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 11, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
The two boys that have went stateside, Graffin & McAuley i assume.

quite entitled to go and enjoy life over there while the opportunity is there, am i right in thinking they'll be back for the club championship

Two absolute bolloxes!!!!!!  No loyality to thier county at all, we dont need their likes at all.

And that from a Loughgeil man...

I would say he is as much from "Loughguille" as the man on the moon.

Andytown i'd say

WRONG as ever MR2!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 15, 2010, 10:37:08 AM
News Boy's finally realised how to spell his clubs name.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 15, 2010, 10:37:08 AM
News Boy's finally realised how to spell his clubs name.  ;D ;D

Aye it was a red flag alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2010, 12:17:46 PM
Can someone explain the history behind the 2 spellings?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2010, 01:54:18 PM
NO

So whats the story with the Ulster Championship, is the final sunday week and then the qualifier the following sunday then?

Should Antrim win both is the next round the following week, so realistically it could be the July holidays before another club game is played after this sunday?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2010, 01:57:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2010, 01:54:18 PM
NO

So whats the story with the Ulster Championship, is the final sunday week and then the qualifier the following sunday then?

Should Antrim win both is the next round the following week, so realistically it could be the July holidays before another club game is played after this sunday?

The qualifier is Saturday 3rd July.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
So Ulster final 27th June, a weeks break then play again in Qualifier 3rd July. Win that and then its another week with no club action, so it will be the July holidays before another club game is played.

Not giving out for a change just wondering if this was the case?

Thanks skull  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2010, 02:38:01 PM
The Ulster Final is on the 27th NAG. Full round of club fixtures this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 15, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
Ah qualifiers on weekend of july 3 i just have joined here and had a little look at previous posts . just to let off a bit of steam i am disgusted with the two boys clearing of to the states , it shouldn't be condoned yet posters on here are all saying fair enough - well no it is not fair enough - it is wrong they should not have been allowed to be part of a county panel if that was their intentions all along. that is the problem in our county too much understanding for lack of commitment to the county cause. it seems folks on here don't give a damn about the county and pretend they do .
others like the dunloy posters skull and maxpower spend their time talking nonsense about good wins here and good wins there but we were missing experienced heads blah blah and well done to the young replacements utter crap and mark my words every time dunloy play they always mention we were missing  -  it has become boring boys , it is as if they are trying to always have an excuse or even more so magnify a simple win wow wow wow  how great thou art dunloy  - wow wee !!!!
on to other stuff we need to get  behind the county and if it means playing club games without county players so be it- let us support the county , we can do something!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 15, 2010, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
So Ulster final 27th June, a weeks break then play again in Qualifier 3rd July. Win that and then its another week with no club action, so it will be the July holidays before another club game is played.

Not giving out for a change just wondering if this was the case?

Thanks skull  ;)
feis final on Sunday 4th July
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
 :D

After "that" ......could I add my support of AG & N McA heading off to the states. Some people may not know this but just to fill you in ....they are two very young hurlers (22 max) who have given years of commitment ALREADY (4 years) to the Antrim IC team. If youre going to do America now is the time. Antrim should and I'm sure are glad to have had them and will look forward to their return.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 15, 2010, 03:41:37 PM
Ah qualifiers on weekend of july 3 i just have joined here and had a little look at previous posts . just to let off a bit of steam i am disgusted with the two boys clearing of to the states , it shouldn't be condoned yet posters on here are all saying fair enough - well no it is not fair enough - it is wrong they should not have been allowed to be part of a county panel if that was their intentions all along. that is the problem in our county too much understanding for lack of commitment to the county cause. it seems folks on here don't give a damn about the county and pretend they do .
others like the dunloy posters skull and maxpower spend their time talking nonsense about good wins here and good wins there but we were missing experienced heads blah blah and well done to the young replacements utter crap and mark my words every time dunloy play they always mention we were missing  -  it has become boring boys , it is as if they are trying to always have an excuse or even more so magnify a simple win wow wow wow  how great thou art dunloy  - wow wee !!!!
on to other stuff we need to get  behind the county and if it means playing club games without county players so be it- let us support the county , we can do something!

Post of the week goes to  ;D

Didnt realise the schools were out already!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on June 15, 2010, 05:12:37 PM
as far asi knew none of the two lads are on the antrimpayroll so therefore can go if they want
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 15, 2010, 06:38:41 PM
waffler- the name suits you, maybe as far as i am aware on another issue i feel it would be a good idea to keep antrim free from clubs from your county. down clubs do nothing for our county only cause trouble with fixtures , increase our travel time and costs to play games and really we should think about throwing them out of our leagues and get city teams in - who actually are from our county and maybe can help our county - not a crowd of down men - they should stick to their own county.
they actuallly down clubs are on the way out anyway hopefully via relegation 1 a year so in 3 years we will hopefully get rid of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
Good man hurler - let it all out.

When does the club championship start? Is it August with the junior / intermediate being played shortly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2010, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 15, 2010, 09:29:12 PM
Good man hurler - let it all out.

When does the club championship start? Is it August with the junior / intermediate being played shortly?

First senior championship match, Ballycastle v North Antrim is down for 31/7/10, Intermediate and Junior championship starts this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 15, 2010, 10:52:14 PM
imtommy the junior and intermediate begin this weekend with the senior beginning end of july / early august. regards that clown earlier the waffler it is just these down clubs irritate me with their demands on fixtures and the costs we incur going to play them .
the sooner we eject them the better and look after own county and the promotion of hurling in our own county .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 16, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
hurler, exactly what costs are you talking about going to play the Down teams?

The 3 clubs are a credit to the league and have never caused any sort of trouble, they fulfill their fixtures each and every year and never complain. They do not look for easy excuses to cancel matches and up until this year all three were very competitive and probably provided the best and toughest three matches of the league.

Now if the Belfast clubs would have taken a look at the Ards men a few years ago maybe they wouldnt be in the mire they are in now, no one to blame but themselves and their social club hurling mentalities. If you want to rise up against anyone, rise up against the clubs in Belfast and get them to put their houses in order and get back to Div 1 hurling, it isnt the Ards clubs holding them back its themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2010, 09:01:51 AM
Hurler the down clubs raise the standards. It's good for us and them.

If antrim clubs get relegated due to down clubs being better then it's up to them to step up and get promoted again and then do the work to stay there.

The likes of the Johnnies/ Rossa etc should to be honest be the kick up the backside that they need.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 10:07:44 AM
Wise up put them out of our leagues , they are a nuisance and travel costs are too much .
They also think they are elite club sides and really are nothing but basic intemediate sides , only about 2 down players would make our county team anyway - get them out now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 16, 2010, 10:51:11 AM
Dunloy had a good win last night against Ballycastle in the feis cup, we were missing a few experienced players (the three cunnings, paudie shivers, shorty, ally elliott, woody) but the younger players are really starting to play well now.

Kevin Molloy was excellent in corner back, Ryan McErlaine has been excellent in the last 2 games also, but man of the match was Kevin Martin, late to the game and so came on as a sub in the full forward position as nancy got injured, marking none other than hippy and scored 4 goals and a point in the second half.

Was a decent first half, Ballycastle looked sharp initially with Gerard Laverty getting through plenty of work and with a good poc out routine casuing Dunloy problems, however their exertions in winning the u21 championship and doubtless celebrations caught up on them and they seemed to have nothing in the tank for the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
Dunloy
DIVISION:      1      SENIOR HURLING
 

   Players Name English   Players Name Irish   
1   GARETH Mc GHEE   GARETH MAG MOIDH   
2   KEVIN  MOLLOY   CAOIMHIN O MAOLMHUAIDH   
3   JAMES MC KEAGUE   SEAMAS MAC THUAIDHG   
4   MICHAEL MC CLEMENTS   MICHEAL MAC LAGHMAINN   
5   PAUDIE SHIVERS   PADRAIG SIBHEAR   
6   DAMIAN MC MULLAN    DAMIAN MAC MAOLAIN   
7   PAUL SHIELS   POL O SIAIL   
8   LIAM RICHMOND   LIAM DE RISEAMANN   
9   CONOR CUNNING   CONCHUR O CONAING   
10   ALAISTER ELLIOTT   ALASTAIR MAC UILE GOID   
11   GREGORY O KANE   GREAGOIR O CATHAIN   
12   PATRICK RICHMOND   PADRAIG DE RISEAMANN   
13   PATRICK DOHERTY   PADRAIG DOCHARTAIGH   
14   CONOR MC KINLEY   CONCHUR MC FHIONNLAOICH   
15   SEAN DOWDS   SEAN DUDA   

So from now on boring max and skull maybe this can be a reference point as to how many you are missing on any of your wow wee wins and losses  and not the group of maybe 25 you always refer to ! as a matter of interest 15 make up a team , but poor dunloy are the only team when a match is played is missing players sure against portumna only 12 of the above played ,  they were missing again  - poor unfortunate dunloy they just have hard luck with personnel,. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 16, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
Most city men who know the game will know that the leagues don't lie. The ards clubs improve the standard of Div1..fact. So all the Div 1 antrim sides benefit from that. It's up to the Div2 sides to get to the right level and the current antrim Div1 sides to maintain their standards to push the ards teams out (if thats what you want). Simply getting rid of them is not an option. Only a complete half wit who has zero clue about the local game would suggest otherwise. It's been my experience that you'll get no better league games than the games against the ards teams. The city teams especially out of the city have all too often had a tendancy to just go through the motions rather than compete properly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 16, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
This has to be a wind up surely,

we have a really good league now, which is borne out by the fact every team has been beaten at least twice already and its only June.  The Down teams play a big part in this, what they also bring to the Antrim leagues is regular reserve games, taken seriously, not all City or North Antrim teams can claim that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2010, 01:48:16 PM
Everyone is entitled to their say even if you agree with them or not.

The Antrim league is taken very seriously by the Down clubs and IMO all three clubs are at a lowish standard but that happens from time to time in all clubs. If we're relegated, we'll take our medicine, just like Ballycran did and do our damnest to get back into Div1 and being competitive.

We're not in a position as some Antrim clubs are to change the league formats to suit our own ends so we have gotten used to trying to keep ourselves up at all costs (and that includes flying players back from Cardiff in the middle of November) even when the leagues are likely to change on a whim.

Make sure you're above Ballycastle or Loughgeil and you'll be fine.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 02:14:05 PM
Here we go with our resident ards man jonny well he is right on one thing the standard of the ards hurling is dire and now we must begin to address the progress we need to make in our own county and first stop is eviction of the down clubs and then a radical approach to city hurling collectively to put antrim where we should be. there seems to be a glens and ards love affair going on and the sooner the glens and the city fall in love again the better for our county and hurling in our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 16, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
looper
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 16, 2010, 02:40:27 PM
Just answer a few questions the(current div2+)hurler. Just so we can all understand where you're coming from and hopefully find that love youre looking for

If ards hurling is so dire, would you mind explaining why you think all 3 ards teams are in div1 yet there are no city teams? Are you of the opinion that St Galls St Johns and Rossa play at a better standard currently? And if so how does this square with reality (i.e league positions) ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 16, 2010, 02:43:20 PM
WUM!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2010, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 02:14:05 PM
Here we go with our resident ards man jonny well he is right on one thing the standard of the ards hurling is dire and now we must begin to address the progress we need to make in our own county and first stop is eviction of the down clubs and then a radical approach to city hurling collectively to put antrim where we should be. there seems to be a glens and ards love affair going on and the sooner the glens and the city fall in love again the better for our county and hurling in our county.


I didn't say we were dire, I said it had lowered a bit.

surely your second point which is much needed can be sorted out by all these full time coaches, at lot of whom are Belfast men floating around the province. In their spare time they could be coaching the youngsters for free like what happens in most other clubs?

What's your take on that?
I always find that the problems you face normally originate at home and not someone else's fault!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 16, 2010, 02:52:15 PM
To be fair we haven't had someone one here losing the plot in a few months. They usually only last about 30-50 posts or so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 02:54:19 PM
Ballygalget Ballycran and Portaferry are worthy of their div one status. no question. even when we were relegated by our own county board (and a Belfast and north antrim club backed it) those three teams were above us and we were on 11 points!! Ballycran eventually came down but proved their worth when forcing Dunloy all the way in the Ulster final. No Belfast team has done that since Rossa beat Dunloy.

shite happens and i think Rossa may win the league this year and the Johnnies the following year. who comes down? either Ballycastle or Ballygalget.

We wont be competing at senior for a few years now, players retiring and a general drop in numbers training. St Galls will regroup and hopefully in a few years time we will push for promotion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2010, 02:55:59 PM
Surely it would cost as much to travel to the likes of Ballycastle from Belfast as to Ards anyway? Dunloy would almost be much of a muchness too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 16, 2010, 02:56:14 PM
I think the ards club add a lot to the leagues.

Its up to the clubs in the second division to up your standard and get back into the first division. We were relegated 2 years ago and took last season and worked hard to get back up.

We want to stay up this year and are working as hard as possible to win games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 05:24:17 PM
My point is they should not be there at the expense of belfast clubs , if we are trying to promote hurling in our county why don't we have city teams in div 1 , the choices are either extend division 1 and get the city teams in or simpler throw out the
down clubs and let their own county promote hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 16, 2010, 05:49:54 PM
The hurler it is up to the Belfast clubs to better themself and get back into the first division.

We are a great example of what happened we went down and straight back up.

Rossa are looking the most likely to come back up.

You also have to look how many Belfast clubs are playing in the senior championship that was the clubs choice to take the step backwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 16, 2010, 05:56:53 PM
It's not easy to admit you're wrong I know young hurler so I'll assume your agreeing that the ards teams are not dire (well lets say less dire than the big 3 in the city (at the moment)).

So your point now is that regardless of how good, how bad or committed the Antrim teams are in relation to the ards teams, the down teams should be bucked out of the leagues to allow potentally and more than likely a worse standard of team to come into division 1? Just elaborate as to how this will be good for the game? You don't see any negatives in this approach at all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 16, 2010, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 16, 2010, 05:24:17 PM
My point is they should not be there at the expense of belfast clubs , if we are trying to promote hurling in our county why don't we have city teams in div 1 , the choices are either extend division 1 and get the city teams in or simpler throw out the
down clubs and let their own county promote hurling.

I guess that you are a Rossa man hurler?  Perhaps a bit miffed with the standard of Division 2 hurling and looking back to the days of Jim Connlley, etc? 
With regards to your damnation of the boys who have headed off to the States and their "abandonment of the county upon whose teet they have gladly suckled since young 'uns" how do you rate the Herron's, Magill's and McGourty's who have chosen to represent the county kickballers?  Surely this too is an abomination?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 16, 2010, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 16, 2010, 10:51:11 AM
Dunloy had a good win last night against Ballycastle in the feis cup, we were missing a few experienced players (the three cunnings, paudie shivers, shorty, ally elliott, woody) but the younger players are really starting to play well now.

Kevin Molloy was excellent in corner back, Ryan McErlaine has been excellent in the last 2 games also, but man of the match was Kevin Martin, late to the game and so came on as a sub in the full forward position as nancy got injured, marking none other than hippy and scored 4 goals and a point in the second half.

Was a decent first half, Ballycastle looked sharp initially with Gerard Laverty getting through plenty of work and with a good poc out routine casuing Dunloy problems, however their exertions in winning the u21 championship and doubtless celebrations caught up on them and they seemed to have nothing in the tank for the second half

Not an unexpected heavy defeat for Ballycastle last night after the u21 final on Sunday.

As for the u21 game itself i didn't think it was a great game but finals are there to be won and the team done that. I felt the Ballycastle defence was the key to the game as they outmuscled and outfought the Loughgiel forwards for large parts of the game. The seniors had an important victory last week against Ballycran and coupled with the u21 win hopefully they can have a strong second half in the league campaign. Of course it would have helped if big Magic Johnson hadn't got that last minute goal against Portaferry to give Ballygalget a big win. If you were paranoid you would be starting to think that the Ards teams were carving up the victories among each other to ensure they all stayed up  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 16, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
8 point win tonight for Cushendall in the Feis over Loughgiel. Good win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:59:22 PM
aye but were you missing players??? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on June 17, 2010, 07:13:25 AM
hurler the   belfast teams are bad and seem to be getting worse throw out the down teams move the belfast teams upthat will really improve the standard of antrim hurling you seem to be a bit of a clown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2010, 08:22:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:59:22 PM
aye but were you missing players??? ;)

Considering "that sc**bag AG" was missing that was a good win for the dall  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 17, 2010, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2010, 08:22:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2010, 11:59:22 PM
aye but were you missing players??? ;)

Considering "that sc**bag AG" was missing that was a good win for the dall  :)

We were yes! Kevin Elliott, Brian Delargy and obviously Graffin. They were missing a couple from what I know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 17, 2010, 09:55:42 AM
Here we go again " we were missing" this seems to be spreading!

As for the guys who were on the county panel who just left it is disgraceful and more annoying that the mentality of the posters who support them plain stupid, would  brian cody give them his blessing? would mickey harte? these boys have no idea of committment to a team and it really just shows how amateur things are in our county. it should be a very long time before these boys ever get a saffron jersey again. i wonder did any of them get sponsorhips or grants due to their hurling involvement , if they did whoever gave them that money should demand it back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on June 17, 2010, 10:22:47 AM
you are a total WUM or seriously deluded

you keep missing the most important question IMO, why did the county management have these boys on the panel and also why where they picked for the offally game as it was widely know by all including managment that they where going away for the summer.

How can you blame young amateur sports men who have just finished Uni and will start full time work at the end of the summer for going and enjoying themselves for a few months

i say good luck to the boys and i look forward to seeing them play for their clubs at the end of the summer and their county next year.

Any reports on the Feis match.?

PS is it true tosh is back in the fold - if so was that part of a deal  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2010, 11:00:57 AM
Think maybe its because its the only 'hurling' that he will be getting for the next few months. Just done understand that fella at all, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, what about a 3rd time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2010, 11:21:20 AM
He ain't the only one back........again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 17, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 16, 2010, 11:20:13 PM
If you were paranoid you would be starting to think that the Ards teams were carving up the victories among each other to ensure they all stayed up  ;D

Ha, Ha, maybe someone should have told a few of the portaferry lads who were going to take a puck out of each other after Magic scored. I suppose theyr'e the ones getting the raw deal in the carve up as they've now been beaten by us and Ballycran to date, besides that'd take too much organising as we still can't agree on the time of day down here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 17, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 17, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 16, 2010, 11:20:13 PM
If you were paranoid you would be starting to think that the Ards teams were carving up the victories among each other to ensure they all stayed up  ;D

Ha, Ha, maybe someone should have told a few of the portaferry lads who were going to take a puck out of each other after Magic scored. I suppose theyr'e the ones getting the raw deal in the carve up as they've now been beaten by us and Ballycran to date, besides that'd take too much organising as we still can't agree on the time of day down here.
Some of them would be more inclined to carve up victories to see their neighbours relegated!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 17, 2010, 05:54:52 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2010, 11:21:20 AM
He ain't the only one back........again.

Tut, tut, tut!  you feeling a little threatened maybe????????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 18, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
Whats the craic with the fixtures scheduled for this weekend, i had heard they are being brought forward to tonight?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2010, 12:45:59 PM
Dunloy playing tonight (seniors only) in Ballycastle. Not sure who rescheduled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Winditup on June 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
After watching a  few hurling games this year and a certain winker playing.I!m starting to think if you play up to the county you can get away with murder.(go on stag parties an headbutt your training squad members ) Against glenariff he threw the ball up an deliberately pulled into his marker.Against cushendall the other night he done the same again.Is this becoming his party piece an are the refs to blind to see this ???????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: Winditup on June 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
After watching a  few hurling games this year and a certain winker playing.I!m starting to think if you play up to the county you can get away with murder.(go on stag parties an headbutt your training squad members ) Against glenariff he threw the ball up an deliberately pulled into his marker.Against cushendall the other night he done the same again.Is this becoming his party piece an are the refs to blind to see this ???????

Where's the foul in that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 18, 2010, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: Winditup on June 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
After watching a  few hurling games this year and a certain winker playing.I!m starting to think if you play up to the county you can get away with murder.(go on stag parties an headbutt your training squad members ) Against glenariff he threw the ball up an deliberately pulled into his marker.Against cushendall the other night he done the same again.Is this becoming his party piece an are the refs to blind to see this ???????

Where's the foul in that?

Johnny cool don't know where you have been that is now classified as dangerous play and can warrent a yellow card.

Watson has been doing that for years when he is finding it tough he will pull a dirty slap. I have marked him often enough to know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
Refs are definitely not pulling it up thats for sure, it seems to be a party piece of SMcN as welll maybe Dinny is coaching it into them at training  ;)

In all fairness there is only only one answer for it when someone does that too you, but if you do that in protecting yourself the way the refs are at the minute you would be in more danger of a card than the guy doing the first act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: oisinog on June 18, 2010, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: Winditup on June 18, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
After watching a  few hurling games this year and a certain winker playing.I!m starting to think if you play up to the county you can get away with murder.(go on stag parties an headbutt your training squad members ) Against glenariff he threw the ball up an deliberately pulled into his marker.Against cushendall the other night he done the same again.Is this becoming his party piece an are the refs to blind to see this ???????

Where's the foul in that?

Johnny cool don't know where you have been that is now classified as dangerous play and can warrent a yellow card.

Watson has been doing that for years when he is finding it tough he will pull a dirty slap. I have marked him often enough to know.

If some hoors pulling and dragging at you (also a foul BTW) its the only cure for them.

I was taught it was up to you to protect yourself, maybe things have changed.

Is it also a foul to go up to bat a ball and take the back of a big bare hand with you??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
JC

your off the level here, what was stated earlier was deliberately throwing the ball into someone and then pulling as hard as you can with no intention of hitting the ball.

By anyones language this is at least a yellow card if not worse, think you may be getting mixed up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
JC

your off the level here, what was stated earlier was deliberately throwing the ball into someone and then pulling as hard as you can with no intention of hitting the ball.

By anyones language this is at least a yellow card if not worse, think you may be getting mixed up.

Yeah that's a bit different to what I was thinking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 18, 2010, 07:47:31 PM
From the jonnycool school of hurling
"If some hoors pulling and dragging at you (also a foul BTW) its the only cure for them"

that attitude from our resident ards man is one of many reasons not to have ards clubs in our leagues , this must be bred into them down there - a very sporting way ! not.

fellow posters don't give a thug the way out it is despicable comments from that fool johnycool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 18, 2010, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
JC

your off the level here, what was stated earlier was deliberately throwing the ball into someone and then pulling as hard as you can with no intention of hitting the ball.

By anyones language this is at least a yellow card if not worse, think you may be getting mixed up.

Yeah that's a bit different to what I was thinking about.

One of our boys got 2 months for that from "Terrible" O'Reilly for doing exactly that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 18, 2010, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
Ballycastle    2-16   1-6   Dunloy

Jaysus....

Yikes Johnnycool will be on now saying the North Antrim teams are carving up results among themselves to ensure they all stay up!!! Great result and to be honest a bonus in terms of getting results in the league in order to stay up. Hopefully the team keeps working hard over the next couple of weeks ahead of the league games and the championship in July.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 19, 2010, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
Ballycastle    2-16   1-6   Dunloy

Jaysus....

Some licking we took last night right enough, with virtually the same team that beat ballycastle by 23 points 3 days earilier.

We where simply awful and beat all over the pitch, but take nothing away from the town, they dominated the aerial battles, congested the middle third and moved the ball in quickly to what is now a very mobile and accurate attack, they will be a serious team in the championship and if they sta together and improve have the making of a championship winning team in the next few years.

As for ourselves we probaly didn't need the game, we have alot of lads carrying injuries and it seems to have caught up, a week or two to get ready for the feis final where a much improved performance will be demanded.

Its been a mad season so far with every team losing games and we still have the return games to come, 2 years ago we failed to win a league having lost one and drew one, we've lost three already and still in with a shout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2010, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2010, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
JC

your off the level here, what was stated earlier was deliberately throwing the ball into someone and then pulling as hard as you can with no intention of hitting the ball.

By anyones language this is at least a yellow card if not worse, think you may be getting mixed up.

Yeah that's a bit different to what I was thinking about.
i know what you mean Johnny, pulling hard on the ball is fair game, but throwing the ball into someone and then having a go is a bit different..

sobering up after our annual dinner last night!!!! still have a stamp on my hand from somewhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 21, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 18, 2010, 07:47:31 PM
From the jonnycool school of hurling
"If some hoors pulling and dragging at you (also a foul BTW) its the only cure for them"

that attitude from our resident ards man is one of many reasons not to have ards clubs in our leagues , this must be bred into them down there - a very sporting way ! not.

fellow posters don't give a thug the way out it is despicable comments from that fool johnycool.

I'll not be feeding any trolls today, thank you.




Our win against Glenariffe, much needed as it was also brings them and Ballycran who seem to be in freefall at the minute back into the mix which means every result is important.

El Magico flys off stateside this week and will be a huge loss a we're very weak in the forwards with three lads who started up there yesterday realistically bog standard reserve hurlers. Hamstrings seem to be a bit bother some for our lads at the minute!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 21, 2010, 09:30:54 AM
Well done '"the Castle", get in to them Dunloy hooors!!!! Great win, sure to put them in their place.

See, my spelling is improving!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 21, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
Ballycastle    2-16   1-6   Dunloy

Jaysus....

Does anyone else smell a rat here!! I wonder did the Ballycastle treasurer get the oul cheque book out.!!

Dunloy must have been bad hi...but all the same I wouldnt read much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
Ballycastle are more than capable on their day and if Dunloy were off their game with few injuries etc then it is no big conspiracy that they were turned over.

Have been saying for a while that Ballycastle should be competing better at this level with the amount of talent at their disposal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 21, 2010, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 21, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2010, 09:33:14 PM
Ballycastle    2-16   1-6   Dunloy

Jaysus....

Does anyone else smell a rat here!! I wonder did the Ballycastle treasurer get the oul cheque book out.!!

Dunloy must have been bad hi...but all the same I wouldnt read much into it.

I would read into it big time, they were stuffed by the Castle!!!!!!!!  The "Castle" are a sleeping giant, just like young Hippy.  In a few years time they will be unstoppable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: joecanning on June 21, 2010, 12:02:55 PM
im hearing that there could be a call up for owen turner to the antrim fold.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 21, 2010, 02:51:44 PM
Any team for no good reason can have a real bad day at the office, you lose all touch, heads go blank, we have all been there. I know the Town are currently punching below their weight but I'll be filing this one under "F" for "Flash in the pan" until I see them back it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2010, 03:08:52 PM
Anyone else at the Cushenall Loughgiel match last night?

Good to see there is a good settled panel going into a few important weeks for the County set up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 21, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
What news of the county panel then?

Any truth on the story that Paddy Richmond coming back.

Heard Winker and Sean D were going at it yesterday. Hopefully that will be consigned to what was on the field of play between the Dall and the Bodies...and that for the good of Antrim hurling they get on with hurling with each other at county level. In the successful teams in the south they will cut lumps out of each other at club hurling but from what I see there:
(a) is always a certain level of respect; and
(b) its immediately forgotten (or if not forgotten then buried).

Fingers crossed.

If we had Graffin and McAuley I'd be an optimistic man over the next couple of weeks...but then I'm never going to be that again. Shame they are away but as others noted its their last year as students (I think) with a full summer - as Skull noted they'll hopefully represent the county for many years to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 21, 2010, 07:37:32 PM
Great game last night and i have a good feeling for loughgiel this year ! last year they had a lot factors against them , the feis debacle, suspensions (conspiracy) and injuries.
They undoubtly have the best players and maybe haven't had it right on the line the last few years but by all accounts they have great team spirit this year , a great organised  management set up and i feel  they will be really hard to beat .
As long as they keep focussed , keep the discipline and put the effort in i feel 2010 is the year of the shamrocks.They have history on their side too as the only club to have the all-ireland and really i expect big things from them this year .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on June 21, 2010, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 21, 2010, 07:37:32 PM
Great game last night and i have a good feeling for loughgiel this year ! last year they had a lot factors against them , the feis debacle, suspensions (conspiracy) and injuries.
They undoubtly have the best players and maybe haven't had it right on the line the last few years but by all accounts they have great team spirit this year , a great organised  management set up and i feel  they will be really hard to beat .
As long as they keep focussed , keep the discipline and put the effort in i feel 2010 is the year of the shamrocks.They have history on their side too as the only club to have the all-ireland and really i expect big things from them this year .


its idiots like you that give loughgiel a bad name. yes loughgiel have good players and had hard luck with injuries etc.. last year, but how do you think that having history will help win a championship - please open your eyes to the real reasons that Loughgiel have not been as successful as Dunloy and Cushendall over the last 20 years. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: wino on June 21, 2010, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 21, 2010, 07:37:32 PM
Great game last night and i have a good feeling for loughgiel this year ! last year they had a lot factors against them , the feis debacle, suspensions (conspiracy) and injuries.
They undoubtly have the best players and maybe haven't had it right on the line the last few years but by all accounts they have great team spirit this year , a great organised  management set up and i feel  they will be really hard to beat .
As long as they keep focussed , keep the discipline and put the effort in i feel 2010 is the year of the shamrocks.They have history on their side too as the only club to have the all-ireland and really i expect big things from them this year .


its idiots like you that give loughgiel a bad name. yes loughgiel have good players and had hard luck with injuries etc.. last year, but how do you think that having history will help win a championship - please open your eyes to the real reasons that Loughgiel have not been as successful as Dunloy and Cushendall and Rossa over the last 20 years.

fixed that for you :D :D

great team and shit happens, they have lost out to a combination of reasons, some self inflicted others just bad luck. they will come good again, will it be this year?? don't know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 21, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
aye plenty of conspiracies over suspensions. Some of the dirtiest hurlers antrim has seen over the last 20 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 21, 2010, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
great team and shit happens, they have lost out to a combination of reasons, some self inflicted others just bad luck. they will come good again, will it be this year?? don't know

What about good rather than great?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2010, 11:13:05 PM
great team and so is Dunloy and Cushendall.

I know Dunloy dislike the Bodies sure we hate the Johnnies Lamhs and the rest. but i have great respect for clubs like Loughgiel Rossa and St Johns. the Dall and yourselves also. this is based on what they have achieved in the past.

if we based our opinions of teams on how they have faired in the last twenty years then we do clubs like Ballycastle a disservice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 21, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
I like yourself have great respect for all those clubs listed so liking/disliking has got sweet FA to do with it. We obviously have a different idea of what great means thats all

They are a great club IMO. But they have in the recent past only been a good team IMO. Hardly a controversial view
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 08:18:10 AM
This guy is a total WUM.

No one from Loughgiel with their recent past would be looking back to '83.

As has been said have had a few good teams in that period but none got over the line, dont see anything in the current team to make me change my opinion, outside of LW who is going to chip in with the 4-5 points which are going to be needed to be a Dunloy or Cushendall? Even if LW has a great day at the office 1-10 - 1-12 who gets the rest to win a championship match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
nag sounds like you resent the fact that loughgiel won an all-ireland !
Currently they are top of the league having beaten the' dall twice and dunloy by 6 points(could and should have been 16 only they took their foot off the pedal in that game , also they had to deal with outrageous chopping and late tackles from the dunloy defence , which referees in championship will hopefully pick up on - maybe with video evidence) .
loughgiel have finally got it together and have a great spirit and organisation about them this year and to hell with the begrudgers - 2010 is the year of the shamrock - the spirit of '83 is well and trully living on ( with a bit of help from the man that created the spirit of '89).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
loughgiel have finally got it together and have a great spirit and organisation about them this year and to hell with the begrudgers - 2010 is the year of the shamrock - the spirit of '83 is well and trully living on ( with a bit of help from the man that created the spirit of '89).

Who?.....Cloot?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 22, 2010, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
loughgiel have finally got it together and have a great spirit and organisation about them this year and to hell with the begrudgers - 2010 is the year of the shamrock - the spirit of '83 is well and trully living on ( with a bit of help from the man that created the spirit of '89).

Who?.....Cloot?  ;)

How did that ever work? An Armoy man transferring to Loughgiel just for the year? Did he play league for them that year as well?

I remember the Loughgiel/Armoy amalgamation beating Portaferry in Portaferry, the very last time an Ulster club final was played outside of Antrim, oh those were the day!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 10:36:36 AM
Think maybe they are drinking the spirit up there in that neck of the woods!  ;)

Im not getting into a an arguement with a WUM but the fact is there for all to see that its been the year of the Shamrock every year since god knows when.

Cushendall have plenty of men away with the county set up and arent getting a settled team at present, Dunloy are probably still getting into the swing of things off the back of a long winter. There is also a long list of injuries there from what I hear.

Remember leagues are for playing in and championships are for winning!
Plus there are no medals handed out in May/June  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 22, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 22, 2010, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
loughgiel have finally got it together and have a great spirit and organisation about them this year and to hell with the begrudgers - 2010 is the year of the shamrock - the spirit of '83 is well and trully living on ( with a bit of help from the man that created the spirit of '89).

Who?.....Cloot?  ;)

How did that ever work? An Armoy man transferring to Loughgiel just for the year? Did he play league for them that year as well?

I remember the Loughgiel/Armoy amalgamation beating Portaferry in Portaferry, the very last time an Ulster club final was played outside of Antrim, oh those were the day!!!


I think 'thehurler' is referring to Jim Nelson when he talks about the spirit of '89.  I wouldn't take this guy too seriously.  He's either a WUM or living on his own little planet.  Yes, the shamrocks are going ok but not any better than Dunloy, Cushendall or even to a lesser extent Ballycastle.  The championship is up for grabs but whose going to grab it !!
How did that ever work? An Armoy man transferring to Loughgiel just for the year? Did he play league for them that year as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
Na he just took his 15 championship medals and went home  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 02:45:40 PM
At a guess, I would say that due to the fact  that at the time when Antrim were going rightly at IC level, he was put under continued pressure from all sides to get something from his talent at club level as well as improve his game for Antrim (i.e by playing with a senior club). The county board must have turned a blind eye to the transfer because it possibly suited their aims as well as LG's

The fact he transferred back the following year tells everybody that he in his own mind, knew he'd made the wrong decision. The man didn't need championship medals for everybody to know he was a wizard. Shame he's not involved in the game anymore
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
The shame is that he seemed to take pride in the fact that he wasnt involved in the game any more, going by a recent interview.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
nag no one can deny the quality of  cloot , but again you begrudge , he has a young family and wants to spend time with them . many another selfish man gives his time to the game and nothing to his family ! so leave cloot alone - the guy is a legend and forever in our hearts will be his performances in '89 . here's to cloot !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2010, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 21, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
I like yourself have great respect for all those clubs listed so liking/disliking has got sweet FA to do with it. We obviously have a different idea of what great means thats all

They are a great club IMO. But they have in the recent past only been a good team IMO. Hardly a controversial view

i'm not arguing about the today's standard regarding LG. was only in the recent past at Casement one night they beat a great Dunloy team!!

Championship is a while away yet. they will dick us by a big score, of that i'm sure.

who they meet after that i don't know.  strange how a WUM comes on and we have a lot of posts ::) ::)

just noticed we have a fixture against Gorts on wed night. with 4 players on Football duty and 2 on Hurling duty i think you can safely say thats two points for Gorts!!

CCC, ya gotta hand it to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 22, 2010, 10:33:34 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 22, 2010, 01:30:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 22, 2010, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
loughgiel have finally got it together and have a great spirit and organisation about them this year and to hell with the begrudgers - 2010 is the year of the shamrock - the spirit of '83 is well and trully living on ( with a bit of help from the man that created the spirit of '89).

Who?.....Cloot?  ;)

How did that ever work? An Armoy man transferring to Loughgiel just for the year? Did he play league for them that year as well?

I remember the Loughgiel/Armoy amalgamation beating Portaferry in Portaferry, the very last time an Ulster club final was played outside of Antrim, oh those were the day!!!


I think 'thehurler' is referring to Jim Nelson when he talks about the spirit of '89.  I wouldn't take this guy too seriously.  He's either a WUM or living on his own little planet.  Yes, the shamrocks are going ok but not any better than Dunloy, Cushendall or even to a lesser extent Ballycastle.  The championship is up for grabs but whose going to grab it !!
How did that ever work? An Armoy man transferring to Loughgiel just for the year? Did he play league for them that year as well?


I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a big fall out among the squad/management yet with the number they have in charge...too many cooks and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 22, 2010, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2010, 02:45:40 PM
At a guess, I would say that due to the fact  that at the time when Antrim were going rightly at IC level, he was put under continued pressure from all sides to get something from his talent at club level as well as improve his game for Antrim (i.e by playing with a senior club). The county board must have turned a blind eye to the transfer because it possibly suited their aims as well as LG's

The fact he transferred back the following year tells everybody that he in his own mind, knew he'd made the wrong decision. The man didn't need championship medals for everybody to know he was a wizard. Shame he's not involved in the game anymore

Id say slow corner back would be able to fill us in on some of the detail as to why Cloot's transfer happened in '89. Apart from playing with some of that Loughgiel team on the county at the time he probably played with a few more of them at minor as he had one year with the Loughgiel minors. Don't remember any great controversy about it so must have been quite amicable between the concerned parties.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2010, 08:46:44 AM
Quote from: thehurler on June 22, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
nag no one can deny the quality of  cloot , but again you begrudge , he has a young family and wants to spend time with them . many another selfish man gives his time to the game and nothing to his family ! so leave cloot alone - the guy is a legend and forever in our hearts will be his performances in '89 . here's to cloot !

Did you ever hear me begrudge him, great player end of!

Plenty of other people have young families and manage to give a bit of time to the GAA, my comment was more of a regret that one of our best corner forwards ever is not able to share his undoubted knowledge and skill with the next generation.

More of a sadness than begrudgery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
He took the Antrim minors for a year in the mid 90's, 1996 I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 23, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 22, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
The shame is that he seemed to take pride in the fact that he wasnt involved in the game any more, going by a recent interview.

N A G translate and expand on the above quote the fact you say " he seemed to take pride in etc.." would indicate that you are really be a begrudger and a sinister one at that and now you seem to try and back track i have come across many like you over the years and really that damning with feint praise is quite pathetic and not very wholesome. You really need to take a closer look at what you say my dear friend , end of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2010, 12:06:08 PM
First off I aint your friend  ;)

Secondly my point was that in the interview he did for the TV programme he did IMO seem to take some sort of pride (maybe not correct wording) in the fact that he doesnt be involved now.

My point was that it was a shame that he wasnt involved yes he took the minors for a year and put in a full shift as a player there is no doubt of that. Only thing is how richer would Armoy club be with him involved in their underage setup or somewhere in the club and it is a pity that he isnt involved with them now.

Sorry to have to spell it out to you but I think everyone else got the gist of my post!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 23, 2010, 12:19:48 PM
I remember watching the documentary that is being discussed. I think cloot also served as Armoy club chairman for a period if I remember correctly. But I don't think NAG is far off the mark about his satisfaction (maybe not pride) about not being involved. Each man to himself as no one owes anything to the GAA, but he shouldn't have been allowed to get into such a position by the powers than were rather than the powers that be at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 23, 2010, 03:47:34 PM
colonel i'm surprised you have time to watch a documentary on hurling with the amount of time and money you put into your soccer watching and your drinking ( which whiskey drinking face red cheeks doesn't like).
nag maybe has a hold on you so you have to stick up for him .......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 23, 2010, 04:07:11 PM
I think he'd say that it's a weight off his shoulders as I think Armoy expected him to champion the club single handedly back then but even he couldn't get the necessary commitment from players and mentors. It's a pity he got a sickner because the Glenshesk setup would definitely benefit from his experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 23, 2010, 06:28:45 PM
Yes I like a bit of football but certainly not a whiskey man. Nag's opinions have no bearing on my own
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 23, 2010, 08:47:02 PM
now in the interests of goodwill and hurling i will enter into a truce with fellow posters and the terms of this truce are basically no first strike from the hurler but all posters must stick to this .
i look forward to more colourful posts relating to hurling .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 24, 2010, 11:13:36 AM
Team for sunday

Sean Delargy will make his first start of the year for Antrim in Sunday's Ulster SHC final against Down at Casement Park.

Manager Dinny Cahill has included him in the full back line as the Saffrons attempt to get back on track following their heartbreaking Leinster SHC extra-time loss to Offaly a few weeks ago.

Aaron Graffin and Neal McAuley are in the US and won't feature, while Joey Scullion missed out with a broken finger.



Antrim (SH v Down): C O'Connell; K McGourty, C Donnelly, S Delargy; P Shiels, J Campbell, C Herron; S McNaughton, K Stewart; C McFall, T McCann, L Watson; PJ O'Connell, N McManus, K McKeegan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 24, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough

Sure all you hurlers are "Reserves" - Reserve footballers!!!!!!!!!!!  St. Galls dont take the oul hurling seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 24, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough

Sure all you hurlers are "Reserves" - Reserve footballers!!!!!!!!!!!  St. Galls dont take the oul hurling seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit like Loughgiel recently :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 25, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 24, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it!!!!
Sure all you hurlers are "Reserves" - Reserve footballers!!!!!!!!!!!  St. Galls dont take the oul hurling seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit like Loughgiel recently :P

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it on Sunday!!!!  Cant say you St. Galls men will make much of an impact ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
 ::)

Classy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 25, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 24, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it!!!!
Sure all you hurlers are "Reserves" - Reserve footballers!!!!!!!!!!!  St. Galls dont take the oul hurling seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit like Loughgiel recently :P

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it on Sunday!!!!  Cant say you St. Galls men will make much of an impact ;D

was hoping for the same from your lad when he came on against Offaly, he missed the 4 chances he got and Antrim were beat!!!

Antrim playing Down on Sunday, i'd make a difference for fook sake!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on June 26, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
Jaysus comrades what are ye all like. Cloot, Watson, Loughgiel. This club gets some bashing on here. The only thing wrong with this club is the same problem all clubs have. FANS AND BAD ONES ABOUT 20 I'D SAY. As far as hurling goes they are a super club as far as promoting the game at all levels. Every other club likes playing them and financially it is most other clubs biggest gate of the year.

And the Watson bashing. Boys wake up and wise up. Bashing starts at home and people in glass houses! Any other club in Ulster would want him. There are many high profile players from other clubs who do far worst things, drink/misbehaveas far more often and no other player in Ulster gets less protection from referees than he does.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 26, 2010, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 25, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 24, 2010, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
strong team and i hope we get a good game.

county made us play Gorts last night, they beat us handy as we had to put out our reserves.

though we did knock in three goals past a dodgy fullbackline!! i think Colonel youse should progress handy enough

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it!!!!
Sure all you hurlers are "Reserves" - Reserve footballers!!!!!!!!!!!  St. Galls dont take the oul hurling seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit like Loughgiel recently :P

Sure our boys and the boys from the 'Castle' will make all the difference when it comes to it on Sunday!!!!  Cant say you St. Galls men will make much of an impact ;D

was hoping for the same from your lad when he came on against Offaly, he missed the 4 chances he got and Antrim were beat!!!

Antrim playing Down on Sunday, i'd make a difference for fook sake!!!

Sure you would be well of the pace!!!! FFS.  And Antrims defeat was the reslt of a Loughgiel substitution, is that what you're saying??????????  Get a life Pal !!!!!!  You just dont  have a notion about the game.  See St. Galls had the good sense to relegate you to the reserves, say no more  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
i don't think News Boy is from Loughgiel at all, defo Andytown maybe even that hurling heartland Twinbrook Iveagh then. what team do you carry the water for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 26, 2010, 08:37:48 PM
Antrim v Carlow next Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 27, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
Antrim v Carlow & Antrim v Kildare next saturday - at least there should be a decent crowd in for that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2010, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Down are a better team than Carlow, so thats an easy game next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 27, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
Down missing braniff and magic are not a good team. I take it they were not playing as suggested in pre game reports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2010, 08:39:41 PM
Down are far from a better team than Carlow.

Carlow will give Antrim a tight game and Antrim should be slight favourites but only slight favourites.Carlow have been on the up for a few years.

Some win today. Realistically that's how much we need to be winning ulster by to compete with the Offalys etc. Whether we can push on from it remains to be seen yet...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on June 27, 2010, 09:09:43 PM
Thought the Saffrons exuded sheer class in the first half today. Regardless of the opposition, Antrim were ruthless and showed some excellent striking, catching and tackling skills. IMHO the Ulster Championship is finished and they will have to think of something different. World Cup or not, there were less than 1500 there today and it never got beyond a puckabout for Antrim. The USHC, given the fiasco with London in the semi-final, is dying a death and is bordering on Lory Meagher status. However, if Antrim play like that next Saturday they will blow Carlow out of the water - but then again, history dictates that I will probably be wrong. Nice touch after the presentation etc when Dinny had the players sitting by the M1 goalmouth and put his arm round each one and had a chat with them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
who won the minor game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 27, 2010, 09:32:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 27, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
who won the minor game?
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Antrim 2 19 Armagh 0 10

Apparently 10 7 to Antrim at half time. Beo was giving updates on the cluichi thread in the football section
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2010, 09:42:55 PM
Cheers cloot.

Good day all round.

Good to see Armagh in there too and hopefully it will bring them on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 27, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
i don't think News Boy is from Loughgiel at all, defo Andytown maybe even that hurling heartland Twinbrook Iveagh then. what team do you carry the water for?

Your problem is you just dont think at all!!!!!  I dont carry water for anyone, I am so much bigger than that and heavily involved in all things Hurling.  Are you crazy, Andytown!!!!!!, much more a rural person than you think.  But then I forgot, you dont think!  Is there any hurling left in Belfast beyond Rossa?  I wonder how many hurlers from Rossa hail from "Twinbrook or Iveagh" hhmmmm!!!!

You St. galls boy should stick to the hankyball.  Sure you stopped your u21s playying in the championship last year, failed to fulfil all of your senior hurling fixtures and got blown away by St. Lachlans in the Intermediate final.  Sure the junior Hurlers from Tyrone gave a better display than you fellas.  They are so F****d up with football.

What about our boy Watson today, was'nt he just sublime, fantastic, so skilfull!!!!   What can we say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 27, 2010, 10:35:00 PM
News boy how did your club get on in the county championship, ulster cship or all ireland series last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2010, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 27, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
i don't think News Boy is from Loughgiel at all, defo Andytown maybe even that hurling heartland Twinbrook Iveagh then. what team do you carry the water for?

Your problem is you just dont think at all!!!!!  I dont carry water for anyone, I am so much bigger than that and heavily involved in all things Hurling.  Are you crazy, Andytown!!!!!!, much more a rural person than you think.  But then I forgot, you dont think!  Is there any hurling left in Belfast beyond Rossa?  I wonder how many hurlers from Rossa hail from "Twinbrook or Iveagh" hhmmmm!!!!

You St. galls boy should stick to the hankyball.  Sure you stopped your u21s playying in the championship last year, failed to fulfil all of your senior hurling fixtures and got blown away by St. Lachlans in the Intermediate final.  Sure the junior Hurlers from Tyrone gave a better display than you fellas.  They are so F****d up with football.

What about our boy Watson today, was'nt he just sublime, fantastic, so skilfull!!!!   What can we say?

we try all codes and in our club News boy, not a single code club and heavily involved in ladies football handball also. if we stuck to one code then we'd be letting our members down. as for failing to field. was not too long ago we went to your, sorry Loughjgiel and ya's/they never bothered to turn up or notify the club that you/they weren't playing, failed to field that day!!

as i said last time out, i'd have looked good against Down yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 28, 2010, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 27, 2010, 10:35:00 PM
News boy how did your club get on in the county championship, ulster cship or all ireland series last year?

County Championship - beathen Semi-Finalist
Ulster Championship - we were not in it!
All Ireland Championship - we were not in it.

But we do actually have an All Ireland Club Championship Crown - Can you say the same?????  I doint think so.  So what is your point pal!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 28, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2010, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2010, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Down are a better team than Carlow, so thats an easy game next week
Ha ha. Bollox.

Totally agree Hardstation, Down are crap!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 28, 2010, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2010, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 27, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
i don't think News Boy is from Loughgiel at all, defo Andytown maybe even that hurling heartland Twinbrook Iveagh then. what team do you carry the water for?

Your problem is you just dont think at all!!!!!  I dont carry water for anyone, I am so much bigger than that and heavily involved in all things Hurling.  Are you crazy, Andytown!!!!!!, much more a rural person than you think.  But then I forgot, you dont think!  Is there any hurling left in Belfast beyond Rossa?  I wonder how many hurlers from Rossa hail from "Twinbrook or Iveagh" hhmmmm!!!!

You St. galls boy should stick to the hankyball.  Sure you stopped your u21s playying in the championship last year, failed to fulfil all of your senior hurling fixtures and got blown away by St. Lachlans in the Intermediate final.  Sure the junior Hurlers from Tyrone gave a better display than you fellas.  They are so F****d up with football.

What about our boy Watson today, was'nt he just sublime, fantastic, so skilfull!!!!   What can we say?

we try all codes and in our club News boy, not a single code club and heavily involved in ladies football handball also. if we stuck to one code then we'd be letting our members down. as for failing to field. was not too long ago we went to your, sorry Loughjgiel and ya's/they never bothered to turn up or notify the club that you/they weren't playing, failed to field that day!!

as i said last time out, i'd have looked good against Down yesterday.

Yeah, you play all codes except u21 Hurling and Senior Hurling.  Why enter the competitions if you are not going to play.  Yeah we did not turn up as your club generally failed to filed or cancel games/fixtures.  What about the poor U21s???????  An absolute disgrace, all because of Hankyball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 28, 2010, 07:16:44 PM
Newsboy your slagging a club who got to 2 All Ireland Finals last year and won their respective championships. When you win some championships (not over 20 years, just one year) then your in a position to give off about clubs. If you are from loughgiel that's why your hated. Such arrogance without being able to back it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 28, 2010, 09:32:21 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 28, 2010, 07:16:44 PM
Newsboy your slagging a club who got to 2 All Ireland Finals last year and won their respective championships. When you win some championships (not over 20 years, just one year) then your in a position to give off about clubs. If you are from loughgiel that's why your hated. Such arrogance without being able to back it up.

I think it is my " backing it up" which is making you "arrogant! !!!!!!!!

So Loughgiel are "hated" traces of a little green monster I presume!!!!!  Loughgiel and proud of it.  Is it loughgiel or "Winker" you hate? Tut, tut, tut!!!!!!!  Just jealous maybe that he does not play for you - he is a 'super star' ya know!   ;D  Up ur pipe ya loser  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: News Boy on June 28, 2010, 09:41:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2010, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: News Boy on June 27, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
i don't think News Boy is from Loughgiel at all, defo Andytown maybe even that hurling heartland Twinbrook Iveagh then. what team do you carry the water for?

Your problem is you just dont think at all!!!!!  I dont carry water for anyone, I am so much bigger than that and heavily involved in all things Hurling.  Are you crazy, Andytown!!!!!!, much more a rural person than you think.  But then I forgot, you dont think!  Is there any hurling left in Belfast beyond Rossa?  I wonder how many hurlers from Rossa hail from "Twinbrook or Iveagh" hhmmmm!!!!

You St. galls boy should stick to the hankyball.  Sure you stopped your u21s playying in the championship last year, failed to fulfil all of your senior hurling fixtures and got blown away by St. Lachlans in the Intermediate final.  Sure the junior Hurlers from Tyrone gave a better display than you fellas.  They are so F****d up with football.

What about our boy Watson today, was'nt he just sublime, fantastic, so skilfull!!!!   What can we say?

we try all codes and in our club News boy, not a single code club and heavily involved in ladies football handball also. if we stuck to one code then we'd be letting our members down. as for failing to field. was not too long ago we went to your, sorry Loughjgiel and ya's/they never bothered to turn up or notify the club that you/they weren't playing, failed to field that day!!

as i said last time out, i'd have looked good against Down yesterday.

Were the kids a in your U21 Hurling team not "let down" last year.  Did you not deprive them of playing against Dunloy in the U21 Semi Final and maybe beating them?  Was that really looking after your young U21 Hurling players?   I dont think so pal.  Now if it had of been hankyball, but sure thats different!!!!!!! Maybe you have lived in Andytown, Twinbrook or Iveagh too long, you should move to the contry and give your pea brain some air, Loughgiel air that is!!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on June 28, 2010, 09:48:21 PM
Lads! Lads! Wise up! A personification of the petty squabbles that have dogged Antrim hurling over the years... call it quits please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 28, 2010, 09:50:51 PM
How did you back it up? You spoke of winning an All Ireland years ago (probably before you were born), but you've done nothing in 20 years. I do despise Loughgiel and I'll admit it. Watson is no concern of mine. We have our own superstars with plenty of medals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2010, 09:53:16 PM
I would say Newsboy is just a reincarnation of one of MRs previos stalkers  anyway. I'd say he is as much from Loughgiel as MR so most of you would be wasting your time slagging Loughgiel...

Looking at that minor team it looks like half of that Ballycastle U21 team were on it. (and a good few of them seniors already too). That bodes well for them.

Looking forward to saturday now. No room for complacency. Carlow have improved and are a good team. We will need to play well, very well, to beat them and the game is no given.

Encouraging game against Down. The one thing for me is that Down beat us in the league so it shows, along with the Offaly game, how far we have come from there. Dinny trains us at a faster pace which helps. Not sustainable all year round but come championship he usually has us in significantly better shape.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on June 28, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 28, 2010, 09:50:51 PM
How did you back it up? You spoke of winning an All Ireland years ago (probably before you were born), but you've done nothing in 20 years. I do despise Loughgiel and I'll admit it. Watson is no concern of mine. We have our own superstars with plenty of medals

Superstars in Cushendall, maybe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
was not too long ago that you/they also never turned up at Casement to play in an under21 final against us. then you/they eventually never payed the game and won an appeal in the boardroom!!

Trust me NewsBoy our club is fine and will continue to do well in respective codes, ladies, handball and Scor.

as for the Down comment i was being funny. Double header on Saturday I'll be there for both games. Carlow will be tough but we really should beat them by 10. they are a big team and have a good free taker but we should really win. Croke park for the quarters and who knows!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 29, 2010, 02:36:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2010, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Down are a better team than Carlow, so thats an easy game next week

Haha really!! What stats u got to back that crazy assumption up?? I hope all Antrim ppl are as complacent as you about Saturday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on June 29, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
lads dont be gettin carried away antrim are no great team by any means
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
News boy is just too much of a caricature of a half wit supporter to be taken seriously.I very much doubt he's from loughgiel, so don't rise to the bait would be my advice 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: stevecw on June 29, 2010, 02:36:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2010, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Down are a better team than Carlow, so thats an easy game next week

Haha really!! What stats u got to back that crazy assumption up?? I hope all Antrim ppl are as complacent as you about Saturday!

We're not steve - you owe us one for the league! It's a game we can win mind but I'm sure carlow are saying that too...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on June 29, 2010, 08:53:02 AM
Jeez lads will yous catch yourselfs on, Newsboy has got what he set out to do - Wind yous up.

Can yous just wind it back abit and maybe just ignore him (unless he post something sensible)

So what about Carlow, it will be a tough game - i hope we dont get complacent after beating (no disprespect) a very poor Down team.

I still think we should win by about 4 - 5 pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 29, 2010, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: stevecw on June 29, 2010, 02:36:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2010, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: thehurler on June 27, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
A total waste of admission money, send Down back to the  Christy Ring - basically a collection of intermediate players . What value is the Ulster Championship with 9 in a row? , like Galway we need to put all our energy into Leinster and the qualifiers not wasting players times playing a gather up of intermediate hurlers . Now please let us get the result against Carlow - should be a great double bill in Casement.
Down are a better team than Carlow, so thats an easy game next week

Haha really!! What stats u got to back that crazy assumption up?? I hope all Antrim ppl are as complacent as you about Saturday!

We're not steve - you owe us one for the league! It's a game we can win mind but I'm sure carlow are saying that too...

Down, currently are a poor outfit and Carlow are light years ahead of us.

Antrim will take Carlow lightly at their peril as I liked their style of play when they beat Down with a man down for most of the second half. I wasn't surprised when they beat Laois as their lighter hurlers will handle the dryer sod better.

I'd still fancy Antrim to win, as much to do with home advantage as anything by three points in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2010, 10:12:07 AM
Bit early in the week for prices for this game? Antrim 4/6 ish I would think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 10:59:22 AM
Yeah would see Antirm winning this one by a couple but it will not be easy in any shape or form.

Should be a good evening for Saffron supporters if the double header goes agead!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2010, 11:05:28 AM
If you see them winning it by a couple then you could also see them losing it by the same amount. For god sake stop talking them up...it does no good. Leave our PRO for that.

Carlow will have zero fear of Antrim and why should they...they are an up and coming side. This is a perfect game for them. So it's a game that is in the balance and the mindset of the players on both sides will play a massive part in the outcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 11:41:23 AM
Any why should Antrim fear Carlow on the same arguement then?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2010, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 11:41:23 AM
Any why should Antrim fear Carlow on the same arguement then?  :D

Who said they should?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
I would imagine then that the ten day rule will prevent county panel members from playing in the Feis Final on the sunday evening assuming Antrim beat Carlow on Saturday then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 29, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
I would imagine then that the ten day rule will prevent county panel members from playing in the Feis Final on the sunday evening assuming Antrim beat Carlow on Saturday then?

Dont think so cause the next game isnt until the 20th if they beat Carlow.  Carlow will be a stiff enough test but no one can doubt our improvement from the league.  I just think we have to have patience with the team. Dinny seems to be good with the timing their peak peformances. Watched them in Casement last thursday night at training.  Its bloody fast....Wallace seems to be the man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 29, 2010, 01:51:13 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 29, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
I would imagine then that the ten day rule will prevent county panel members from playing in the Feis Final on the sunday evening assuming Antrim beat Carlow on Saturday then?

Dont think so cause the next game isnt until the
if they beat Carlow.  Carlow will be a stiff enough test but no one can doubt our improvement from the league.  I just think we have to have patience with the team. Dinny seems to be good with the timing their peak peformances. Watched them in Casement last thursday night at training.  Its bloody fast....Wallace seems to be the man.

20th July is a tuesday. Presume you mean the 17th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2010, 01:53:02 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 29, 2010, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
I would imagine then that the ten day rule will prevent county panel members from playing in the Feis Final on the sunday evening assuming Antrim beat Carlow on Saturday then?

Dont think so cause the next game isnt until the 20th if they beat Carlow.  Carlow will be a stiff enough test but no one can doubt our improvement from the league.  I just think we have to have patience with the team. Dinny seems to be good with the timing their peak peformances. Watched them in Casement last thursday night at training.  Its bloody fast....Wallace seems to be the man.

heard that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 29, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
Antrim seemed to have moved on a lot from where they were at in the league. And despite Saturday nights win over Laois I feel we have dropped back a bit. The 2 games where we beat Wexford and should have beaten Clare were as good as we have played.

We got close to that level again at the weekend, but let Laois back into it from a position where we were 6 pts up and in total control.
If we repeat that on Saturday we will be well beaten, but I think we will have learned from it and to actually win a game in our 1st year at this level is a massive boost. It makes us feel like we do belong at this level.

I think it will be a close enough one on Saturday, but fear that home advantage might swing it for Antrim. Looking forward to a great game though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 30, 2010, 11:13:35 AM
Any word on the arrangements for the gate on Saturday?
I would imagine there would be a fair crowd heading to both games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 30, 2010, 11:16:17 AM
Double Header for Casement Park  on Saturday 03 July 2010

All Ireland Hurling Qualifier Round 1:
5pm-   Antrim v Carlow

All Ireland Football Qualifier Round 1 (Replay)
7pm -   Antrim v Kildare

Admission Prices

Seating
Stand & Uncovered Seats  €20 / £18
              Students & OAP €15 / £13

NB.  All Seats are on a first come first served basis

Terrace
General              €15 /£13
Students & OAP  €10 / £8
U16 (when accompanied) FREE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 02, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
Team unchanged from last weekend I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 02, 2010, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 02, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
Team unchanged from last weekend I think.

Funny I was wondering...were did you see it. I was looking for it. The team last week was in the paper mid week but it hasnt been this week.  Mind games??? It has been a low key build up to the game...both teams are saying very little.

O Rourke for Kildare done a great article with the Irish news today....very smart move. Highlighted (obviously for the attention of the ref and linesmen) that Paddy Cunningham is stealing yards for the frees. Something that I never really noticed. The wee dance is a distraction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 02, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Wrong Thread!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 02, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 02, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Wrong Thread!

I'm quite aware what thread I'm on. The first bit was about the hurling. Just thought i would throw in the wee bit bout O Rourke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 05:33:40 PM
Latest at Casement with five minutes to half time Antrim 0 - 7 Carlow 2 - 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: longrunsthefox on July 03, 2010, 05:41:02 PM
Oh dear...  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 05:58:04 PM
After Antrim hitting 6 points with out reply Carlow hit yet another goal. 3-6 0-9.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
Watson goal from penalty 3 point game now. Hopefully we will kick in from now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
Carlow 3-8 Antrim 1-10 latest 15 mins in to 2nd half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:09:52 PM
Shane Mc Naughton free 2-11 to 3-9 Carlow leading 18 minutes into 2nd half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:11:33 PM
Free 20 meters out wee buns for Mc Manus all level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:17:20 PM
Antrim 2 - 12  Carlow 3 - 10 ten left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
level shes tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Still level 4 minutes left including injury time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:27:18 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 03, 2010, 05:41:02 PM
Oh dear...  :-\
Up 3 now the Saffrons wild exiting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 06:28:16 PM
Antrim win by 3 points congrats lots of work to be done reguarding team play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: longrunsthefox on July 03, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
That's good... keeps the summer going and more games bring them on. Is it Limerick next?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 03, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
That's good... keeps the summer going and more games bring them on. Is it Limerick next?

I think were in the draw with Tipperary, Limerick and Dublin. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on July 03, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on July 03, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
That's good... keeps the summer going and more games bring them on. Is it Limerick next?

I think were in the draw with Tipperary, Limerick and Dublin.

Offaly and Clare may have something to say about that.

Offaly play Limerick which I imagine they'd win given Limerick's current plight and Clare play Dublin which could be a tight one. Obviously, Tipp are the team to avoid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2010, 09:40:34 PM
I don't think a more shocking ref performance will ever be witnessed either.

Antrim had 3 frees in the first 35 minutes. 3! It wasn't a dirty game but they should have had 3 or 4 scorable ones on top of the 3.

He played it fairer in the second half. Shafted Carlow at the end for antrim to go 2 up to be honest.

Carlow are a good team as anticipated. Some good hurlers and some great fielders of the ball. They tired a lot at the end for some reason.

Antrim have a lot to do but it is very pleasing to see the fighting spirit they had. They could really have lost that game and lost it big.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 03, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
REFFIN RIDICULOUS, PJ O'connell dragged down by the neck, Karl McKeegan rugby tackled to name but 2. The ould whistle must have been on its last legs and he had to coax her through to the end of the game.
The boys looked jittery though, Karl S and Hippy not as assured as last week. Simon McCrory worked hard and made a fair difference when he got his chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 03, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
REFFIN RIDICULOUS, PJ O'connell dragged down by the neck, Karl McKeegan rugby tackled to name but 2. The ould whistle must have been on its last legs and he had to coax her through to the end of the game.
The boys looked jittery though, Karl S and Hippy not as assured as last week. Simon McCrory worked hard and made a fair difference when he got his chance.

Antrim never seem to get a good reff. The game against Wexford 2003 we were shafted and according to some reports against Offaly this year as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2010, 10:18:42 PM
This was another level though Baile an tuaigh. It really had to be seen to be believed. 3 frees in 35 minutes of hurling - unbelievable. Carlow aren't dirty mind but it is a contact sport and there were about 5 or 6 clear frees not to mention McManus's legitimate goal disallowed.

Antrim need to improve mind. The starting wing half forwards were non-existent and Johnny Campbell really needs to improve. I thought O'Connell(with a saddle on his back), Stewart and Karl were excellent. Defenders shown a clean pair of heels on quite a few occassions. McCrory and McFall made big difference from bench too.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 03, 2010, 10:53:12 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on July 03, 2010, 10:10:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 03, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
REFFIN RIDICULOUS, PJ O'connell dragged down by the neck, Karl McKeegan rugby tackled to name but 2. The ould whistle must have been on its last legs and he had to coax her through to the end of the game.
The boys looked jittery though, Karl S and Hippy not as assured as last week. Simon McCrory worked hard and made a fair difference when he got his chance.

Antrim never seem to get a good reff. The game against Wexford 2003 we were shafted and according to some reports against Offaly this year as well.

He was the ref in the Offaly game! Actually thought if anything he favoured us in that game. McGhee should have walked for a wild pull and he let a lot go in our favour. The free at the end was soft enough but you can't give a ref a chance to do something like that to draw a game.

That said, thought he made some unbelievable decisions today. How he could disallow our goal fom 30 yards away when his umpires didn't react at all was incredible. The Carlow fans around us were joking saying they had given him a lift up! That said, we didn't help ourselves by giving away frees by waving sticks in front of freetakers again and again.

Was delighted that the team showed the balls to come back from being 8 points down at one stage.

On a separate note, have to say the Carlow fans around us were very gracious notwithstanding the result. Don't think I would have been so magnanimous if the game has panned out the other way around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2010, 11:02:58 PM
The carlow ones around me were a good bunch too. To lose in that tight a match must be tough. They are a bloody good team and we were miles of them first half. We really had to step it up. They hit wides at crucial times too which killed them while we managed to keep the scoreboard ticking over.

Had we lost in a tight match after having that ref would have made you livid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2010, 11:30:10 AM
what a performance by the referee!!!

Antrim were nearly caught out by a very good Carlow team. their fitness, fielding and passion for the game was brilliant. it was a great game to watch and was played at a real high tempo. Antrim won despite the referees attempts, was speaking to some of the lads afterwards and they said it was a serious fast game, they took a lot of hits and I'm sure are sore today.

Carlow brought up some supporters and as said already they were great.

did anyone notice the managers at the end of the game? you would have thought we won the All Ireland!!! The doc was mauled by the managers. Antrim now need to kick on. if they manage to avoid Tipp then we might get to a quarter final.

i started the boos at the referee at the end. i shouldn't have but he was clearly doing his best ti try and lose us the match. Seen him referee before and he's been grand. enjoyed the cheering when he give Antrim their first free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2010, 11:54:38 AM
Is there a draw, I heard yesterday we play Tipp now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 04, 2010, 12:17:28 PM
Gret to see a good spirit in the Antrim team and it was needed in the 2nd half. Carlow have improved and will continue to improve. They are reaping the reward of good underage work and they are now competitive with the likes of Offaly, Wexford and Laois in the Leinster minor and u21 championships (they have beaten all these counties in recent years in either minor or u21).

As for the draw, although we dont know who Antrim will get it is predetermined in that the winners of Phase I (Antrim and Tipp) will play a winner from Phase II (Clare/Dublin or Offaly/Lim). Now going on form and Limericks well publicised problems you would have to fancy Offaly in that one and if thats the case i think Offaly and Antrim cant play again (but i havent seen that written down yet). Pobably better to leave aside the speculation on that one for now but the one sure thing is Antrim dont play Tipp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 04, 2010, 12:42:32 PM
Likewise I haven't seen it written anywhere we can't play Offaly.

Realistically if we want to be competing the next game is one we would want to be winning. It will really be a big statement of where we're at.

We will need to improve from yesterday but a few things should be noted... PJ O'Connell was very good second half for about ten or so minutes and was causing real problems using his strength to win the ball. The carlow defender then realised if he just charged into the back of him the ref wouldn't give a free and he could win the ball and clean up. He proceeded to do this consistently and O'Connell was taken off as he had been nullified. Also McManus was causing problems running at the heart of Carlow so he was on a number of occassions just fouled. Ref gives nothing. This is not to take away from Carlow might I add - they are things any defender does. Our game had to change significantly due to the ref.

The funniest thing about it was that he shafted carlow with about a minute to go after being so biased the whole game and probably cost them at least a draw.

That ref honestly shouldn't be let near a championship game ever again. I would rarely comment on refs either as they generally do their job and are prone to human error like anyone.

Anyway, rant over. The game was flying - Carlow men were cramping all over and a few antrim ones too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 04, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
Yeah what a game yesterday. The boys showed something I havent seen in Antrim hurling teams in a long time.  The game was played with an electric pace and i was delighted the level we showed.

The refereeing was unbelieveable. In all honesty i thought he done ok for us against offaly but yesterday was he was terribly biased.  In theend we had to take most of our scores from play as we werent getting them from frees.

The substitutions made a great impact...McCrory was the main impact. He ran at the carlow defence and they hadnt the legs to catch him. Barry and Eddie both played a great part as well.

Did anyone see the management after the game...it was as if we had won the all ireland final. Dinny, Dick O Kane, Bubbles and the two cork lads were doing a dance just of the bench. Great day for the hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 04, 2010, 03:04:55 PM
Definitely can't play Offaly again:


Phase III (11.07.2010 – Live Draw by RTE – Subject to repeat Pairings)

Two Bowls

Bowl A
Phase I Winners (x2)

Bowl B
Phase II Winners (x2)
Venues to be determined by the CCCC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 04, 2010, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on July 04, 2010, 03:04:55 PM
Definitely can't play Offaly again:


Phase III (11.07.2010 – Live Draw by RTE – Subject to repeat Pairings)

Two Bowls

Bowl A
Phase I Winners (x2)

Bowl B
Phase II Winners (x2)
Venues to be determined by the CCCC

. . .  and so we have to play either Dublin or Clare (assuming Offaly beat Limerick)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 04, 2010, 07:15:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I was going buck mad through the second half (and the first and most of the second at the ref) but I never thought I'd be going so buck mad at scraping home against Carlow.

Serious step up required and a good look at where things went wrong:
aimless high balls into (1) unmarked Carlow players hand, (2) the full forward line with no angle at all just big hail marys (3) the keepers hand or (4) wide.
Also there was a seriously annoying habit of going at a high ball with one hand. Now in a junior club game you can get away with that time to control the ball down into the hand but at that level and higher the ball should be caught or batted with some forced...not many going at the ball with one hand for KK today.


1. O'Connell - grand. Was good under 1 maybe 2 high balls. Just have that feeling that McGhee (assume he's gone having not gone to training last week) or McGarry would have saved one of the goals. His puck outs have got more distance over the past while (use it!).
2. McGourty - not far off MOTM for me. Defended from the front, frustrated his man. Striking could do with another 20 yards.
3. Donnelly - needs to start commanding the square...no soft goals (which they all were). But was strong when had the chance and a few clearances.
4. Delargy - defending he did well (save for being sold a serious dummy under the stand when he should have stood up). However, his persistance to get a short puck or when he picked up the ball to go on a solo was madness, complete madness. Get the ball up the field to those who do damage SD and stop running into trouble.
5. Shields - some decent clearances and tidy on the ball. Not sure where his best position is (Skull or Max may have some views). If he stays there we need him to bulk up, start winning catches. Half back needs to be the platform for a good team. Hope he goes on to be our Tony Browne.
6. JC - not as bad as some have said but does need to be more commanding and if he ain't catching the ball then his man shouldn't be. Smarter clearances as well required rather than belting it down the field.
7. Herron - was solid but guilty of going at the ball with the stick rather than catching. Has lost a yard of pace and was exposed on that for a couple of times. Not bad.
8. Stewart - 3 points from play a good return. A very tidy hurler. Will get stuck in as well. Up another 10% for the next day and use that brain to get good ball in.
9. McNaughton - got on the ball a fair bit in first half but should have used it better. Great striker and worth a few scores. Outmuscled under the high ball a few times.
10. McFall - didn't really get on the ball at all. Their half back line mopped up quite a bit of ball which should have been made harder by him and McCann. If it ain't dropping for you just make sure you bust your balls.
11. McManus - class act, fought, caught, hassled and harried when we were down...not many did that in the first half. Then scored a couple from play. Can carve up defences when he gets on the ball but should use men to his left and right more often.
12. McCann - fought hard for the ball but like McFall just didn't get into the game. Had a good goal chance which we really need to be taking (especially the next day)
13. PJ O'Connell - agree he was causing bother in the 2nd half but then got nullified. Wasn't given many opportunities to get at the defence. Balls played to him on the diagonal, low balls - he could do damage. Bit of a poacher it seems which is good.
14. Watson. Wasn't given great service at all and thus couldn't do much damage. On fire he and McManus can bring us to that next level. Not many can hit a penalty or placed ball as hard as that...any opportunities round the 21 we should be trying that in my mind.
15. McKeegan - fair play he scored a couple of crackers at the right time near the end...but in the paper today (Sunday Life) he was given man of the match...just still not convinced about him at a corner forward. His play in the half back line and midfield should make him very useful at feeding off the breaking ball off Watson - but he didn't and was a little lost in my opinion. 4 points still a good return.

Eddie Brennan et al in the KK forward line feed off scraps and make the most of opportunities (few wides today alright)...the ball was coming out too easily and too quickly. Every ball should be treated like its your last.

McCrory - very impressed by him when he came on, ran at them, caused them bother scoring one and setting up one or two more. We need more direct hurling like that - things happen when you go at them and are on the front foot.

We need to learn from yesterday - more clinical, less fumbling, strong under the high ball, more playing to a plan...not just long high aimless balls into their defence.
Use Watson by playing low angled ball to him, McConnell's pace, clear wide to let McManus run at them - all that together with a new ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 05, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
I hear Tommy McIntyre refused to referee extra time in the Senior Feis final last night due to the abuse he was getting from the Dunloy supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 08:57:27 AM
Have to say congrats to the Amtrim Hurlers, was a determined and gritty disply something that has been lacking in the last couple of years.

To the match I think the better 'Team' was beaten in Carlow. Generally they worked together better found the right pass with more regularity than Antrim did and made better decisions in most areas of the field. However Antrim battling qualities and determination got them over the line thankfully in the end.

Esp in the first half how many times LW isolated in a one on one situation at FF with an Antrim man in possession out the field, only for that man to go for a crazy point from 80 - 90 yrds. Still to many playing for the Irish News.

Both wing half forwards were very poor and no primary and very little secondary possession was won in this area of the field. McCrory did make a difference to this area but dont think he is a long term solution.

Overall alot of work to do but some of the qualities shown were admirable, if we can just get the team play and hurling to match then we would be a game for anyone on our day.

Glensman - from what I heard McGhee has left the panel and if what I heard was correct then he was left in a position were he had very little option. I agree with you that he would have made a better attempt to save the 3rd goal as he would have been off his line to try a block.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 05, 2010, 09:17:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2010, 11:30:10 AM
what a performance by the referee!!!

Antrim were nearly caught out by a very good Carlow team. their fitness, fielding and passion for the game was brilliant. it was a great game to watch and was played at a real high tempo. Antrim won despite the referees attempts, was speaking to some of the lads afterwards and they said it was a serious fast game, they took a lot of hits and I'm sure are sore today.

Carlow brought up some supporters and as said already they were great.

did anyone notice the managers at the end of the game? you would have thought we won the All Ireland!!! The doc was mauled by the managers. Antrim now need to kick on. if they manage to avoid Tipp then we might get to a quarter final.

i started the boos at the referee at the end. i shouldn't have but he was clearly doing his best ti try and lose us the match. Seen him referee before and he's been grand. enjoyed the cheering when he give Antrim their first free.

Now you know what we feel like when we get Gerry Devlin and now Hassan from Derry refereeing us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Antrim have had their fair share of GD trying to make a match of it with every other Ulster team.

Plus Hassan is one of the better refs on his day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 05, 2010, 10:18:28 AM
Dunloy won the feis last night. Beat the dall by 2 points.

Poor affair i must say. Spolied a bit by the blustery conditions.

McIntyre refused to come out for the extra time because some of the Dunloy players or selectors said something to him!! Do know if this is true but its funny  ;D ;D

Dall looked at full stregth bar Graffen being in America.  I wasnt sure if that was Dunloys full team. Dick O Kane was standing just down from me and Shiels was pucking around at half time. Any other first team missing??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 05, 2010, 10:21:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 05, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
I hear Tommy McIntyre refused to referee extra time in the Senior Feis final last night due to the abuse he was getting from the Dunloy supporters.

Dunloy were a point up in the last minute, Kevin mcKeague had the ball on the sideline, tried to clear it and though he was pulled down. Ball went over the line for a Dall line ball, someone questioned the decision then threw the ball into the wire.  Tommy changed the lineball to a free, and moved it forward 10m, then another 10m.

A few supporters/players/managers 'questioned' the legitamacy of changing a lineball to a free and tommy refused to carry on for extra time

To be honest, and i don't condone verbally abusing a ref; but there seemed to be very little in it. 

Not sure what the repercussions will be.

As for the game itself, it was a decent match in the end but took 45mins to warm up.  The strong cross field ball made it difficult for both teams but cushendall seemed to adapt better in the early stages.  Dunloy grew stronger as the game when on and looked the fresher in extra time, possibly because Cushendalls main players, McNaughton, McKeegan & McManus had all hurled the previous day.

2 points, James McKeague was outstanding and to my mind should have been man of match, special mention also to Ally Elliott, without doubt Dunloy's best forward yesterday and its incredible that at 39 he can still perform to that level for a full game plus extra time. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 05, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Antrim have had their fair share of GD trying to make a match of it with every other Ulster team.

Plus Hassan is one of the better refs on his day.

Hassan doesn't seem to have any of his better days when a Down team is playing, club or county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 05, 2010, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 08:57:27 AM
Glensman - from what I heard McGhee has left the panel and if what I heard was correct then he was left in a position were he had very little option.

Go on then NAG1 - McGhee given the road or walk out?

I'd say if Tommy had a pound for every time he was called a "loughgeil f**ker" by a Dunloy man he would be sipping a beer in the south of Spain right now rather than recovering from the Feis. Actually strike that...he'd still be organising referees all round North Antrim and further afield as that is what he does.

Was he being given a hard time right through the game or just this specific incident? Always found him to be a good fair referee who knows the craic - when a slap is a dirty one or not and when someone is acting the eejit.
I remember playing in a game where the corner back was doing some serious wild pulling in the vicinity of our corner forward and the ball. I say vicinity...it was nowhere near either as he was so bad. Tommy made the fair enough point that he didn't look like he was able to do any damage, only to himself.

However, it sounds like an interesting decision alright. I have always wondered that (over this past four days I have wondered an awful lot about referees...) - do referees have the discretion to change a line ball to a free. Am guessing it may be covered by some form of catch all discretion that they can do whatever they want to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 12:46:19 PM
From what I heard he walked after was put in an extremely awkward position regarding selection.

Bad job if the person involved cant keep to their word. But just saying what I heard. He is twice the keeper that CO'C is and everyone would agree on that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 05, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 05, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Antrim have had their fair share of GD trying to make a match of it with every other Ulster team.

Plus Hassan is one of the better refs on his day.

Hassan doesn't seem to have any of his better days when a Down team is playing, club or county.

Tommy Mac is like that when Dunloy are playing IMO. Have seen him deliver top class performances elsewhere. Actually he didn't do too bad last night if I'm honest. Both teams played hard but fair and he let the game go I thought to the right degree. It was the sideline cut issue which left everybody bamboozled and seeing as it was a decision which had a massive impact on the game...emotions ran high. Is changing a sideline to a free in the rule book? No one I spoke to had seen it before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 05, 2010, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 12:46:19 PM
From what I heard he walked after was put in an extremely awkward position regarding selection.

Bad job if the person involved cant keep to their word. But just saying what I heard. He is twice the keeper that CO'C is and everyone would agree on that.

What was awkward? Person involved can't keep their word?

Still dont get it. Tell us the craic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on July 05, 2010, 03:16:19 PM
What I cant understand is how can someone who cant make their clubs starting lineup make the counties starting line up

No harm to C'oC he is a decent keeper but if you are not getting regular league action how can we expect him to play well for the county

McGee is a great keeper but a very bad trainer from what i here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 05, 2010, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 05, 2010, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 05, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Antrim have had their fair share of GD trying to make a match of it with every other Ulster team.

Plus Hassan is one of the better refs on his day.

Hassan doesn't seem to have any of his better days when a Down team is playing, club or county.

Tommy Mac is like that when Dunloy are playing IMO. Have seen him deliver top class performances elsewhere. Actually he didn't do too bad last night if I'm honest. Both teams played hard but fair and he let the game go I thought to the right degree. It was the sideline cut issue which left everybody bamboozled and seeing as it was a decision which had a massive impact on the game...emotions ran high. Is changing a sideline to a free in the rule book? No one I spoke to had seen it before?

It is if you read the rule book properly, moving it on a further 13metre however isn't so on that one he is incorrect, you can only advance 13m once then your into yellow cards etc etc. Skull maybe this is the problem, no-one knows the actual rules of the game and thus the frustration when a knowledgeable Ref implements them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on July 05, 2010, 07:16:07 PM
Couldn't make the game Saturday thanks to damn work  >:(
But listened on radio and sounded like a great game. We seemed to play well in that 1st half, but let Antrim back in for a few vital points before HT.

Losing our best forward, and then captain due to injury within 5 mins of 2nd half really cost us it seems. Our subs bench is very weak as we are only choosing from 5 clubs so strength in depth is never gonna be part of any Carlow Hurling squad sadly. The 2 guys came on did nothing by all accounts.

By reports here the ref did everything he could to screw Antrim over and it sounded that way on radio. But looking at the highlights it seems the Antrim peno was very soft as was the free at the end that put you 2 pts up.

Before the game I didn't give us a hope, but sickening to have led by 9 pts and then ended up losing. Its been a decent year for us and at least we have proven we belong at the Liam McCarthy level by beating Laois and coming so close to beating a team in their home ground who drew with Offaly.

7 of our side are U-21 and all bar 3 are under 25 so we can only get better. Fair play to Antrim for their battling, and showing such spirit after being behind all game to come good in last couple of mins. Hopefully ye can win another game or 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on July 06, 2010, 01:23:20 PM
If Tommys match report states that he was verbally abused by dunloy players and mentors what will happen with dunloy.

I know it was in a north antrim competition does this get escalated to the county board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on July 06, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Our sport has no place for players or mentors who abuse officials. Tommy has been all over Ireland refereeing , doing his best as a volunteer with the GAA he has no need to take verbal abuse from anyone. If there are guilty people I hope they are punished and punished heavily , for far too long people get away with it and it continues .
If we want to set an example to our youth we must have zero tolerance , I must add we must be leaders in society and show we are for good example and high standards - let the North Antrim Board show leadership now .
Dunloy remember if you do the crime do the time.
We must be leaders , I sometimes wonder about  Dunloy , at recent matches some of the language and comments from ex players is disgusting so I am not surprised at this latest verbal abuse case.The Dunloy club needs to weed these people out and tell them to stay at Celtic Soccer matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 06, 2010, 07:10:58 PM
 ::)

Nail 'em up thats what I say  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URTj4naIdAs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URTj4naIdAs)

That post had nothing to do with your prejudices there sure not hurler?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 06, 2010, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: thehurler on July 06, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Our sport has no place for players or mentors who abuse officials. Tommy has been all over Ireland refereeing , doing his best as a volunteer with the GAA he has no need to take verbal abuse from anyone. If there are guilty people I hope they are punished and punished heavily , for far too long people get away with it and it continues .
If we want to set an example to our youth we must have zero tolerance , I must add we must be leaders in society and show we are for good example and high standards - let the North Antrim Board show leadership now .
Dunloy remember if you do the crime do the time.
We must be leaders , I sometimes wonder about  Dunloy , at recent matches some of the language and comments from ex players is disgusting so I am not surprised at this latest verbal abuse case.The Dunloy club needs to weed these people out and tell them to stay at Celtic Soccer matches.

As probably the most experienced current referee in Antrim and having been all over the country refereeing you would think then that he wouldnt fall down on a technical rule. As somebody has said already you can turn a side line in to a free and move forward it 13m. After that you have to issue a yellow card and can't bring it forward another 13m. Of course making an error of judgement in a pressure situation doesnt justify verbal abuse.
Title: http://www.carlow/insomnia/people.ie/sport/sport/scorescore-by-scorescore-by-sc
Post by: drici on July 07, 2010, 05:54:14 AM
1: Karl McKeegan gathers the break from a long ball and pops over an Antrim point. 0-1 to 0-0.

4: GOAL! Craig Doyle gained possession, lost it, won it back, let fly, saw his shot saved, grabbed the rebound and stitched a low shot in the net. Carlow 1-0, Antrim 0-1

5: Karl Stewart landed a long range Antrim point. 1-0 to 0-2

8: Paudie Kehoe, at the second attempt, points a 50m. 1-1 to 0-2

10: Paudie points a 45m free after an Antrim defender picks the ball off the ground. 1-2 to 0-2

12: Karl Stewart lands a great long range point. 1-2 to 0-3

13: GOAL! Once more that goal poacher supreme Craig Doyle applied the finishing touch. 2-2 to 0-3

15: Paudie points a 60m free. 2-3 to 0-3

18: Mark Brennan collects a break off a long Eoin Nolan free and pilots over a point. 2-4 to 0-3

21: A superbly constructed team point, Eoin Nolan's diagonal ball into the right corner, played back out by Denis Murphy to Andrew Gaul, the 'Duke' essaying a beautiful crossfield ball to 'Styler' who dissected the posts. 2-5 to 0-3

23: Hugh Paddy O'Byrne collects a pass from Mark Brennan and pops over a point. 2-6 to 0-3

25: Liam Watson drills over an Antrim point from close range. a shot that might have yielded a goal. 2-6 to 0-4

26: Neil McManus picks off a long range point. 2-6 to 0-5

28: Neil McManus converts a '65, 2-6 to 0-6.

33: Neil McManus converts another '65.

HALF-TIME: Antrim 0-07 Carlow 2-06


36: Neil McManus sweeps over a point that could have been a goal. 2-6 to 0-8

38: Shane McNaughton lobs over a mid-distance point. 2-6 to 0-9

40: GOAL! Jacko slips the ball to Paudie Kehoe to the left of the posts, 20m out from where the St Mullins sharpshooter unleashes a thundering shot which rattles the far top corner of the net. 3-6 to 0-9

43: GOAL! Penalty! A Carlow defender gets caught in possession and in the subsequent ground schmozzle Antrim are awarded a dubious penalty which Liam Watson drills to the net, a low hard shot. 3-6 to 1-9

45: Paudie points a 45m free won by Jacko. 37 to 1-9

46: Karl McKeegan picks of an Antrim point from close in. 3-7 to 1-10 : A rousing Carlow point as Alfie hassles an Antrim forward off the ball and Richie Coady's clever clearance into the corner is turned into a white flag by the on fire Craig Doyle. 3-8 to 1-10

50: GOAL! PJ O'Connell whips the sliotar to the net. 3-8 to 2-10

52: Paudie Kehoe's high cross-field side-line cut from the terrace wing is collected by Craig Doyle and swung over the bar. 3-9 to 2-10

54: Karl Stewart points an Antrim free. 3-9 to 2-11

56: Level! Neil McManis points an Antrim free. 3-9 to 2-12

61: A daring raid involving Dessie, Paudie, Alfie and Robbie threatens a goal but yields a 65 that Paudie puts over. 3-10 to 2-12

63: Eddie Byrne wins a long range free that Richie Coady from half way sends spiralling between the posts. 3-11 to 2-12

64: Simon McCrory picks off an Antrim point from the left wing. 3-11 to 2-13

65: Level! Shane McNaughton fires over the equaliser. 3-11 to 2-14

66: An Antrim chop under a long Frank Foley puck-out yields Carlow a free that is brought forward for dissent and Paudie duly taps over from 30m. 3-12 to 2-14

68: Level! Karl McKeegan points from close range after a Carlow defender spills possession in the tackle. 3-12 to 2-15

69: The lead for Antrim for the first time in 65 minutes, Shane McNaughton pointing after a Carlow defender is dispossessed in the tackle. 2-16 to 3-12

70: A good ball out of the left corner sets up Karl McKeegan for a crucial point. 2-17 to 3-12

71: Substitute Eoin McCloskey from the left wing arrows over the closing score of a thrilling game.

FULL-TIME: Antrim 2-18 Carlow 3-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on July 07, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 06, 2010, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: thehurler on July 06, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Our sport has no place for players or mentors who abuse officials. Tommy has been all over Ireland refereeing , doing his best as a volunteer with the GAA he has no need to take verbal abuse from anyone. If there are guilty people I hope they are punished and punished heavily , for far too long people get away with it and it continues .
If we want to set an example to our youth we must have zero tolerance , I must add we must be leaders in society and show we are for good example and high standards - let the North Antrim Board show leadership now .
Dunloy remember if you do the crime do the time.
We must be leaders , I sometimes wonder about  Dunloy , at recent matches some of the language and comments from ex players is disgusting so I am not surprised at this latest verbal abuse case.The Dunloy club needs to weed these people out and tell them to stay at Celtic Soccer matches.

As probably the most experienced current referee in Antrim and having been all over the country refereeing you would think then that he wouldnt fall down on a technical rule. As somebody has said already you can turn a side line in to a free and move forward it 13m. After that you have to issue a yellow card and can't bring it forward another 13m. Of course making an error of judgement in a pressure situation doesnt justify verbal abuse.

Fairhead this is where the rules are a little bit grey.

You can move the ball 13 meter several times if the ref thinks this is required.

Tommy is not one for handing out yellow cards with a min left I'm sure tommy saw no point in issuing a yellow card as this would have been wiped in extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 07, 2010, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: oisinog on July 07, 2010, 09:42:29 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 06, 2010, 11:29:33 PM
Quote from: thehurler on July 06, 2010, 04:59:37 PM
Our sport has no place for players or mentors who abuse officials. Tommy has been all over Ireland refereeing , doing his best as a volunteer with the GAA he has no need to take verbal abuse from anyone. If there are guilty people I hope they are punished and punished heavily , for far too long people get away with it and it continues .
If we want to set an example to our youth we must have zero tolerance , I must add we must be leaders in society and show we are for good example and high standards - let the North Antrim Board show leadership now .
Dunloy remember if you do the crime do the time.
We must be leaders , I sometimes wonder about  Dunloy , at recent matches some of the language and comments from ex players is disgusting so I am not surprised at this latest verbal abuse case.The Dunloy club needs to weed these people out and tell them to stay at Celtic Soccer matches.

As probably the most experienced current referee in Antrim and having been all over the country refereeing you would think then that he wouldnt fall down on a technical rule. As somebody has said already you can turn a side line in to a free and move forward it 13m. After that you have to issue a yellow card and can't bring it forward another 13m. Of course making an error of judgement in a pressure situation doesnt justify verbal abuse.

Fairhead this is where the rules are a little bit grey.

You can move the ball 13 meter several times if the ref thinks this is required.

Tommy is not one for handing out yellow cards with a min left I'm sure tommy saw no point in issuing a yellow card as this would have been wiped in extra time

Oisinog, the rule is not grey at all, you cannot move the ball several times if you feel like it, would suggest you study the rules again and this is a prime example of why we have so many problems in the game, and again to be boring and factual yellow cards follow into extra time, its just the players and additional subs than differ if I understand it correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
Yellows carry, reds don't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
Yellows carry, reds don't.

If you've received two yellows during ordinary time and hence got a red, you can't reappear for extra time AFAIK.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 07, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
Lads you definately can't move it more than once.

The rule states that- free puck 13m more advantageous than the place of the origional puck, up to the opponents 20m line. Further dissent on an occasion shall be considered a breach of rule 6.1 ( a booking) and shall be penailised accordingly

This alway ends up with the ref moving it for you but it is actually up to the player taking the free to decide where the most advantageous position is. Nothing to state you can't move left, right or back.

Another boring fact that if a player hits a shot, and it hits someone not supposed to be there ( a mentor or the ref himself) and the ref believes it was going in then he can award the score.

Situation in our AISF v De La Salle. Declan McKillop sent off in ordinary time for 2 yellows and was allowed to be replaced by a substitute for the remaining time. Declan wasn't allowed to return
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on July 07, 2010, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 07, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
Yellows carry, reds don't.

If you've received two yellows during ordinary time and hence got a red, you can't reappear for extra time AFAIK.

Correct, if you get sent off in normal time you can start extra time with 15 but not the person who got sent off.

I do think the thread is getting away from the fact a referee was verbally abused to the extent that he would not carrry on reffing the match, this IMO is very serious and something (dont know what) should be done about it.

As a neutral i thought Dunloy got the better of the calls so i dont know why they where so irrate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2010, 12:49:55 PM
Shrek,

I think that the Dunloy folk would disagree with that.

The incident from what I coudl see should have originally been a free to dunloy and instead was given as a line ball.

Verbally absuing a referee is not on at any stage, but why then did Herbie finish the match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 07, 2010, 01:11:21 PM
If it was so bad the game should have been abandoned. Unless Tommy requested Herbie go on ahead and do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2010, 01:44:53 PM
My point exactly Colonel

Mountain and Molehill spring to mind.

So how is the intermediate championship going to be affected by Antrim reaching the 2nd qualifier?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on July 07, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 07, 2010, 12:49:55 PM
Shrek,

I think that the Dunloy folk would disagree with that.

The incident from what I coudl see should have originally been a free to dunloy and instead was given as a line ball.

Verbally absuing a referee is not on at any stage, but why then did Herbie finish the match?

Of course they would and im sure cushendall folk would argue the other way, thats the way it goes.

i find it laughable on one hand people on here say verbal abuse is wrong and shouldnt be justified........then go ahead and justify it.

i like everyone on here didnt hear the abuse, but as im sure Tommy is well used to getting abuse it must have been more than a molehill.

Abuse to referees is never warranted and shouldnt be tolerated at all.

not sure about the lineball being a free, but someone posted the player threw the ball against the fence, it was hit across the field.

Agreed extra time shouldnt have been played if it was that bad.

Anyway, when does the champioships start for most clubs. - any league games for me to go and watch this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2010, 02:32:01 PM
Where was my contradiction?

I said if the abuse was as bad as has been made out why did Herbie finish the ET. Surely no fellow officlal would have completed the game if he felt his colleague had recieved abuse to that level.

That was my point simple as that no contradiction in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on July 07, 2010, 03:24:16 PM
NAG yet again your vicious cowardly attitude comes out .
So let's look at it either Herbie was wrong to do the ET and Tommy was badly abused or Tommy wasn't abused at all and the gracious good man Herbie did the ET. According to your warped logic then someone did something wrong and therefore the North Antrim Board must take action.
But on the other hand as is with the GAA the referees report is sacrosanct so it will be interesting to read it and if I am correct Dunloy players and officials will be suspended heavily .As i said before someone of the Dunloy supporters not all I add should stick to supporting their great Irish game of soccer and the poppy wearing Glasgow Celtic soccer team.
Bottom line is Tommy was dreadfully abused by Dunloy people - those people should be suspended and let's hope the North Antrim Board do not bottle it and deal with them.You my friend NAG need to get rid of your spiteful warpness and begin to show leadership not be cowardly and self serving.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2010, 03:46:13 PM
For the second time I aint your friend!

I had forgot the school holidays were on again.

You totally missed the point of my post maybe it was to subtle for you and your little agenda which is clear for all to see now.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
hurler, should you not be setting sail for the Ards peninsula shortly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
Re: The abuse of referees

If someone could define boundaries "clearly" as to what is and what is not abuse then I'd like them to elaborate on it.  It is such a grey word I struggle to use it.

I could say with some certainty that referees are verbally "abused" in almost every game they go out to referee from U16 up. It would be great if every referee reacted and dealt with those responsible in the same way to the similar types of abuse. It's a bit like super nanny in way. Consistency is the key if we want people to change their habits both on the line and on the pitch. From what I've heard Tommy was not what "I" would have described as abused but opinions we're made known to him in a very pissed of manner (when everybody gathered in the centre of the pitch at the end of full time) regarding the decisions he took at the very end of the game. Now some refs might let those heightened frustrations go (seeing that it's a passionate game and all) not consider those verbal frustrations as abuse and move on. Others including Tommy will react differently and make an issue of the very same verbals.

So how do we deal with this inconsistency because it leaves the disciplinary system open abuse (  ::)) if referees don't report "abuse" in a consistent manner?

I'd agree that we probably do deserve some sanctions if we are reported but I'd have my frustrations that almost every club is as guilty as ourselves when it comes to mouthing at referees


Two other points on the latest replies

Shrek....it would be more accurate to say that the ball was gently tapped over toward the referee who was about 10 yards away....it would be easy for some to take from your words that a dunloy player drove the ball away from the area of play...he didn't

Hurler...you say Tommy was dreadfully abused...that implys you "know" what was commented to him? Well do you?
And every club has a few so why do you not do something about your own "some"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 07, 2010, 04:28:41 PM
Shrek, it was indeed myself said the player threw the ball into the fence, thats what i though happened but as it was on the far side i will concede.  I'm glad NAG agreed it should have been a free to Dunloy in the first instance, i definately felt it looked a free from where i was.

I do not condone abusing referee's and i do think it is time the GAA took its responsibilities seriously in this regard, but i didn't hear an awful lot said at the time, and as yet have not heard any reports of particularly abusive language being used.

What i can't abide by is the relish with which a supposed shamrock is getting struck into the club demanding bans, fines etc. rewind to the feis cup last year, your own supporters didn't exactly cover the club in glory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on July 07, 2010, 04:42:25 PM
@Skull - it was more like 20 - 30 yds - but lets not split hairs- it was still hitting the ball away to waste time.

@max - you couldnt see the player tapping the ball across the field how can you comment on wether it was a foul or not.

I have no love nor hate for Dunloy, Cushendall or any club for that matter - im a bit of a blow in with no club. I am now distancing myself from this topic as i dont want to comes across on the side of the hurler - he has an abvious agenda which i dont  - i just hate to see referees getting verbally abused by a number of players.

last post by me on this topic.

i believe there are some matches on tonight - which one is best to go and watch. might go and watch depending if i have to babysit or not  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 07, 2010, 04:28:41 PM
What i can't abide by is the relish with which a supposed shamrock is getting struck into the club demanding bans, fines etc. rewind to the feis cup last year, your own supporters didn't exactly cover the club in glory.

Max there's every chance that thehurler was not born when that happened so give the young lad a chance will ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 07, 2010, 08:51:24 PM
I was going to ask how the match was finished, if the official referee refused to continue, but that has now been answered.

Very unusual - an appointed official refuses to continue & somebody else takes over....bit suspect methinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 07, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Glenariffe 0-16 Ballycran 0-5
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
The bodies beat us by 4 in the end. 3-12 to 2-19 or similar. Not a bad game with both missing a few. We miss magic more than they miss watson though. Weak bench is our downfall plus a few dubious tactics where our centre back stays deep sweeping up but allowed jonny campbell to score 1-6 or so from play. Call me old fashioned but everyone has a man to mark
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 07, 2010, 10:48:53 PM
St. Johns  5-11 0-8 St. Pauls  Casement Park Quarter-FInal 
Tir na Nog  1-15 2-11 Glen Rovers Armoy  Ahoghill Quarter-FInal 
Lamh Dhearg  0-11 2-9 Carey Faughs  Rossa Quarter-FInal 
Clooney Gaels  0-8 1-13 Rasharkin  Ballymena Quarter-FInal 


Junior Hurling Championship
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Cloughmills  4-10 3-10 Creggan  Loughgiel Quarter Final 
All Saints  3-6 4-17 Cushendun  Glenravel Quarter Final 
St. Endas  2-6 1-9 Glenravel  Ahoghill Quarter Final 


Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Ballygalget  3-9 2-17 Loughgiel  Ballygalget Round 9 
Ballycastle  1-6 1-16 Cushendall  Ballycastle Round 9 
Dunloy  1-18 2-9 Portaferry  Dunloy Round 9 
Glenariffe  0-16 0-5 Ballycran  Glenariffe Round 9 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 08, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
The Crans are in free fall at the minute with six losses on the bounce. We're down with them on Sunday in what is a must win game for both, could be interesting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 08, 2010, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Shrek on July 07, 2010, 04:42:25 PM

@max - you couldnt see the player tapping the ball across the field how can you comment on wether it was a foul or not.

  >:(

Very simple Shrek, i was watching the game, saw what i felt was a free and turned to the guy next to me to ask 'how the hell is that not a Dunloy free' turned around and the ball was 13m further forward. was told this was because ball was threw into the wire. No big deal. last comment on that match

Dunloy beat Portaferry last night 1:18 to 2:9 i think.  Strange game in that Dunloy were playing well and had the game won then the Ports ran off 5 or 6 points in a row against the wind in the second half and dominated for a good period
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 08, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 08, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
The Crans are in free fall at the minute with six losses on the bounce. We're down with them on Sunday in what is a must win game for both, could be interesting!

Was talking to one of out players and he said that is the worst he has ever seen them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2010, 10:35:52 AM
Peaked too early, heard they were putting in a savage amount of training in the early months of the year.

When are teams going to learn that hurling is a summer sport and that when they should be reaching top condition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2010, 01:19:46 PM
After almost beating us a few years ago in the ulster final they seem to have pushed hard ever since. I wonder are they just mentally stuffed from all that. Still look a decent squad but just aren't doing it atm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2010, 01:23:49 PM
McGourty a massive miss to them, have some cracking hurlers just dont seem to be able to put it together at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2010, 01:39:36 PM
Oh yeah..forgot about McG...big loss for any team him and Gazza
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 08, 2010, 01:47:09 PM
Did the Crans not have a falling out a couple of months about county players & they were dropped for a match...maybe v Ballygalget? Seem to have been downhill since then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 08, 2010, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 08, 2010, 01:47:09 PM
Did the Crans not have a falling out a couple of months about county players & they were dropped for a match...maybe v Ballygalget? Seem to have been downhill since then.

I think they dropped a few county lads for taking a few sups on the sunday, they'd played for the county on the saturday and then played us on the Monday night. Those lads dropped were brought on, some after 20 minutes so it was token gesturism which both upset those who were dropped and those who had been taken off without having done a whole pile wrong. There was a lot of shouting and gurning in the changing room after the game but I'd have been mighty pissed too after some of the stupid antics of some of their players that night which led to their defeat.

sometimes a good row in the camp is a good thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on July 08, 2010, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 08, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
The Crans are in free fall at the minute with six losses on the bounce. We're down with them on Sunday in what is a must win game for both, could be interesting!

Though they'd still be content enough to be relegated yet win the Championship a la 2007.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 08, 2010, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 07, 2010, 10:48:53 PM
St. Johns  5-11 0-8 St. Pauls  Casement Park Quarter-FInal 
Tir na Nog  1-15 2-11 Glen Rovers Armoy  Ahoghill Quarter-FInal 
Lamh Dhearg  0-11 2-9 Carey Faughs  Rossa Quarter-FInal 
Clooney Gaels  0-8 1-13 Rasharkin  Ballymena Quarter-FInal 


Junior Hurling Championship
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Cloughmills  4-10 3-10 Creggan  Loughgiel Quarter Final 
All Saints  3-6 4-17 Cushendun  Glenravel Quarter Final 
St. Endas  2-6 1-9 Glenravel  Ahoghill Quarter Final 


Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Ballygalget  3-9 2-17 Loughgiel  Ballygalget Round 9 
Ballycastle  1-6 1-16 Cushendall  Ballycastle Round 9 
Dunloy  1-18 2-9 Portaferry  Dunloy Round 9 
Glenariffe  0-16 0-5 Ballycran  Glenariffe Round 9

Great result for Carey and even more so for Rasharkin. Fair play to them. Carey or Rasharkin in the intermediate final - would either have a chance v St Johns. Perhaps Carey better equipped to have a rattle at them?
Assuming St Johns beat Randalstown of course.

A fair beating handed out by the Dall to the Castle...Ballycastle seriously up and down at the minute.

What is the story with the divisional teams for the senior championship? I heard that South Antrim may have pulled out...and something about South West getting their players? Any confirmation on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 08, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
heard it was SW who pulled out and their players are looking to play for either NA or SA
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 08, 2010, 05:15:24 PM
Don't think SW were even entered into the draw this year after not much interest shown by clubs last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2010, 10:05:34 AM
I thought they might have had this sorted after last year, its not like there wasnt plenty of warning this year.

In principle these divisional squads are a good idea but they have to be run with some common sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 09, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
Would have thought the SW clubs would have been more up for it this year considering who is in the Intermediate C'ship last year,( can't see any SW clubs figuring from what I've seen so far).
Preparation was non existent last year and the Clooney lads opted out, but I thought they gave Glenariffe a fair crack for a gather up team. Should have been sorted Feb/mar with yer man Kelly from Clooney heading it up to give it a bit of credibility. Disapponting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on July 09, 2010, 11:40:39 AM
These divisional sides are a great idea , Joe S put a lot effort last year into N A but really they are going nowhere unless we go the whole way with them and enter them into leagues . This in turn will cause angst amongst hurling people in clubs trying to develope hurling , but really it is the only way to go and these clubs should act as feeder clubs at underage level for the divisional sides . Also the volunteers , hurling people , can continue at underage with the smaller clubs and also row in behind figureheads like Joe for senior level .
Hurling in Antrim will benefit long term by this approach , there is too many big fish in little pools here  we need to grasp the nettle and endorse , support and go with Divisional sides at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 09, 2010, 11:54:05 AM
Sorry  lad, but would you mind telling us what you are smokin, you're like a bull in a china shop! The divisional sides can only work in the C'ship, what you are suggesting would be the end for small clubs. Isn't that what the GAA is about..Club...Community ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 10, 2010, 01:03:39 PM
Nonsense hurler.  The Divisional squads will be in their last year this year.  The players just don't want to commit to it until they finish up with their own clubs in the junior/intermediate and even after that some just don't want to play.  It was a good idea in theory, but just because it works in other counties doesn't mean that it will work here.

The North Antrim squad had a good go at it last year with good turnouts at training and Dinny took a session.  They had their first meeting on Thursday night and only the Glenarm lads and one from Cushendun turned up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 10, 2010, 08:37:29 PM
So it's Dublin next Saturday lads! Let's hope for a better show than last year . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on July 14, 2010, 01:20:20 PM
Well people whats the verdicts for Saturday. We are playing a team that are slightly more developed than ourselves but I expect the boys to put up a good performance.

Some will see the Carlow game as a slight blip....it was to a certain extent but we were going in favourites. Now we have absolutely nothing to lose against Dublin in Croker.  A win in this game would be a great achievement.

Cant see many changes to the team - I would say McCrory and Eddie McC will be in as they both showed very well when they came on against Carlow.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on July 15, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Just heard the Antrim team. No dis-respect but Tomas mccann is not up to this standard. Cant believe the management and their logic on this. Now I have absolutely nothing against this lad but we are talking about playing Dublin in Croke Park. I have been to all of the county's hurling matches this year bar one and I can count on my two hands the amont of times Tomas has touched the ball. Surely another player must be deserving of a chance for this is his 7/8th chance and to date he has taken none.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 16, 2010, 12:46:32 PM
Who would you have in front of him Tom? My feeling is that he has yet to shine but dinny must be seeing enough in him in training to take a chance on him. The lad is still young, very honest, strong and hard working and I have seen enough of him to think with careful management they could make something of him. I have yet to see any of his replacements to date make much of a difference and claim his place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
Fair play to the boys and Dinny. I  beleive the just kept going and going as Dublin slowed up. A great trait!

Was gutted that I wasn't able to make it down...and now even more so.

An indepth report would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2010, 07:50:04 PM
was not at the match but heard it was a cracking game with Antrim winning by a point? Karl Stewart with the winner.

Galway in the Q final nothing to fear!!! though in fairness Galway can play a lot better but its all on the day, McIntyre dismissed us earlier in the year and now we are playing them, i hope Dinny and the rest of his selectors take Antrim to a semi final.

any dates for this match? will have a few beers tonight enjoying this win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2010, 08:14:29 PM
Is it confirmed as Galway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on July 17, 2010, 09:04:36 PM
Just back. Saffron abu.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on July 17, 2010, 10:24:46 PM
Great match. Antrim down 6 points I think shortly after half time, didnt give up.

I know feck all about hurling, but after the Dublin substitutions in the second half, Antrim played a lot better. Antrim subs were much better too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cannon Fodder on July 17, 2010, 10:40:39 PM
Great result against the Dubs. Fair play to Dinny and his back room staff, they have us playing to end, chasing lost causes, hounding the opposition down, and making them make the mistakes. The introduction of the 3 subs certainly changed the game in our favour, all made a major impact, especially around our half back line were we cleared Dublin out in the last 15 minutes. Thats the last 2 matches were we have came late at teams and produced the goods.

Folks we need more support at these matches, not too many at Croker today.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on July 18, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
Cork now? Hopefully Dinny will keep his mouth shut this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 18, 2010, 07:39:26 PM
At least this time he'll be right if he says Brian Corcoran's finished
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 18, 2010, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on July 15, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Just heard the Antrim team. No dis-respect but Tomas mccann is not up to this standard. Cant believe the management and their logic on this. Now I have absolutely nothing against this lad but we are talking about playing Dublin in Croke Park. I have been to all of the county's hurling matches this year bar one and I can count on my two hands the amont of times Tomas has touched the ball. Surely another player must be deserving of a chance for this is his 7/8th chance and to date he has taken none.

Well, Cyril Farrell thinks we have 6 natural scoring forwards anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2010, 08:08:53 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 18, 2010, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on July 15, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Just heard the Antrim team. No dis-respect but Tomas mccann is not up to this standard. Cant believe the management and their logic on this. Now I have absolutely nothing against this lad but we are talking about playing Dublin in Croke Park. I have been to all of the county's hurling matches this year bar one and I can count on my two hands the amont of times Tomas has touched the ball. Surely another player must be deserving of a chance for this is his 7/8th chance and to date he has taken none.

Well, Cyril Farrell thinks we have 6 natural scoring forwards anyway!

I would say Cyril couldn't name the "six scoring forwards".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on July 19, 2010, 09:02:43 AM
Alright lads and lassies?

Couldnt get watchin the Sunday Game last night of the mighty saffrons and the RTE Player thing doesnt seem to have The Sunday Game available - does anyone know where I can watch some of the highlights?

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on July 19, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
I would say Graffin and McAuley are sick as dogs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 19, 2010, 11:47:50 AM
Well done indeed to Dinny and his team, great result and great for everyone in Antrim when our team goes to Croker and wins.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 19, 2010, 12:02:03 PM
Congrats to Dinny and his backroom team and all the players. Great effort to go down there and win, Antrim have never feared playing Dublin and the boys showed that when their confidence was up that they could out hurl and out work Dublin.

The two boys that went away will be back and we are lucky in the sense that they left an area of the team in which we do have a bit of cover, been harder if they were both scoring forwards.

Push on now and give the next one a good rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2010, 12:11:14 PM
We're struggling to cover Graffin in CB NAG. Really badly struggling in fact.

The Cork game seems to be said to be Croke Park by the web-site. I'd be sceptical of that just yet...

No way could Antrim - Cork justify a game in Croke Park. They couldn't fill it. We had poor support down on Sunday and Cork are the sort who will not go because they expect to beat us out the gate.

I'd still be hopeful of a double header with Galway - Tipp. Whatever else is on I'd be hopeful of a better match afterwards than Dublin - Armagh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 19, 2010, 01:40:21 PM
ITG

I wasnt saying the cover was better what I was saying was that of all the places we could have someone missing this area wasnt bad.

I seriously thought we struggled at CB for all of the Carlow game and thought something should have been done but thats neither here nor there now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Agreed - whatever we are doing we are doing something right!

Cork probably a hurdle too far but beating Dublin on Saturday is probably the best result Antrim have had in hurling since Offaly in 1989. Whatever happens now everything a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 19, 2010, 02:23:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Agreed - whatever we are doing we are doing something right!

Cork probably a hurdle too far but beating Dublin on Saturday is probably the best result Antrim have had in hurling since Offaly in 1989. Whatever happens now everything a bonus.

f**k lads, Cork are not great at the moment so why the defeatist attitude?

Cork  1 to 9 are good but their forwards are nothing special and you'd be hopeful of big Hippy stopping Oh'Ailpin from catching ball. Not so sure how Jonny Campbell will cope with big Cussen though if he's No11.

I suspect neither Sean O'G, Shane O'Neill or Curran will not start due to injury and a belief that they've enough in store for Antrim so some of their defence won't be too experienced either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 19, 2010, 03:23:39 PM
It is hard to fathom Antrim at the minute, I would fancy Dublin to BEAT Cork this weekend, so why can Antrim not, it would be great for hurling in this county if they do, you can pay all the coaches in the world, run the best tournament etc but nothing brings kids to the field like success. 

apparently Shorty played with a fairly significant injury on Sat, will he be able to hurl on Sun. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on July 19, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
With Sean Og out, O Neill probably out and extra time in their legs from Saturday night, the Mighty Saffrons have a sniff. Well better this than Tipp or Galway comin in fresh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 19, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
Fixtures out for Sunday according to the County website:

- minors in Newry at 12pm

- seniors in Croker at 2pm

Pretty bloody stupid if you ask me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2010, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 19, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
Fixtures out for Sunday according to the County website:

- minors in Newry at 12pm

- seniors in Croker at 2pm

Pretty bloody stupid if you ask me.

Waterford v Galway minors is at noon in Croke Park so Galway would have had the same complaint if there game wasn't in Croke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 19, 2010, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 19, 2010, 03:59:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 19, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
Fixtures out for Sunday according to the County website:

- minors in Newry at 12pm

- seniors in Croker at 2pm

Pretty bloody stupid if you ask me.

Waterford v Galway minors is at noon in Croke Park so Galway would have had the same complaint if there game wasn't in Croke.

One of the Dublin websites is suggesting the minor game might actually be Saturday in Newry, which would make more sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
Would make more sense Cloot, you wouldn't need to be relying on the official Gaa site. It really is pathetic. Venes or times still aren't up on it yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 19, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
Minor match now in Crossmaglen at 12 on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2010, 06:01:13 PM
Johnny your starting to sound like dinny! and we know where tha+ got antrim last time. cork are better than the teams that havent made it to the q.finals antrim would have been everyones choice to get. should we not give them a 6 point start then i'll be hopeful of a shock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dublin Fan on July 19, 2010, 06:16:44 PM
Ill start off by congratulating Antrim on there win powerful last 15 minutes in which ye completely took over. I really thought we'd progress on from last year but fair play Antrim ripped up the script

The main reason I signed up was I wanted to apolagise for the arse holes on hill 16 who booed Antrim off the pitch. You can be assurred that the idiots who done that most likely arrived with 5 minutes to go and probably arent true GAA fans certainly not hurling fans anyway.

Best of luck next week against Cork. They'll be feeling the efects of saturday so ye never know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on July 19, 2010, 07:29:10 PM
Had to drop in here to say well done to Antrim. That was a great win, never expected it to be honest.

Seems to be a great battling spirit in that team tho, coming back from 9 pts down against Carlow the last day and from 6 behind v the Dubs.

Cork next will be probaby a step too far, but just hope ye can put up a good performance and at least run them close. Just need to stop letting teams go so far ahead...might have just about got away with it v Carlow and Dublin but won't happen with Cork.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Thanks to Steve / Dub Fan. I would have to say I didn't notice any booing but any crowd has their share of idiots so I wouldn't be too concerned. If they'd have saved their vocals for during the game it may have helped.

Steve I would be interested to see how Carlow would do against Dublin. I think Carlow would give them a real rattle if not beat them. Dublin , a few players aside, are a team that are hyped up a bit much.

We're up against it against Cork but we have nothing to lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on July 20, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Thanks to Steve / Dub Fan. I would have to say I didn't notice any booing but any crowd has their share of idiots so I wouldn't be too concerned. If they'd have saved their vocals for during the game it may have helped.

Steve I would be interested to see how Carlow would do against Dublin. I think Carlow would give them a real rattle if not beat them. Dublin , a few players aside, are a team that are hyped up a bit much.

We're up against it against Cork but we have nothing to lose.

A great win for Antrim, but can't help thinking complacency and a poor day at the office were major factors in Dublin losing.  Would Antrim beat Clare in Championship hurling, never mind beating them by as much as Dublin did last week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2010, 09:17:54 AM
I would say they are the factors in it but at the end of the day thats not Antrim's fault.

Dublin because of their recent up turn will have results like this one for a while to they gain the consistency to join the top ranks.

But at the end of the day Antrim will never fear playing Dublin at any stage a point proved on sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 20, 2010, 09:27:03 AM
The two corner forwards just thought they could run through antrim so I thought they were a bit complacent.

They could never get away from antrim though. The reality is that Dublin are more physical and perhaps better athletes but they're not really much better hurlers.

Antrim have never had enough belief playing in croke either. They believed they could win that game though and that was a major difference as NAG says.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 20, 2010, 09:32:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2010, 06:01:13 PM
Johnny your starting to sound like dinny! and we know where tha+ got antrim last time. cork are better than the teams that havent made it to the q.finals antrim would have been everyones choice to get. should we not give them a 6 point start then i'll be hopeful of a shock


I've always thought Dinny in his rantings had a valid point. He's a Tipp man with no inferiority complex when they meet Cork or Kilkenny, they go out expecting to win, not hope to get within 6 points as you say.
The biggest problem facing Dinny this week is getting the players to believe that they've a real chance and to go out and hurl without fear of their opponents.

if Dublin of Offaly were lining out against a depleted Cork team, they'd certainly fancy their chances. Antrim have beaten one and the other needed extra time to beat them so there must be some hurling in this Antrim team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on July 20, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
It seems to me that antrim are playing their best stuff in quite some time, results show this.  One of the biggest problems they face on sunday is themselves.  As jonny pointed out, they must go out believeing they will win, otherwise they could end up done for the summer. At this stage of th year there is no reason they cant win, they have a talented bunch of players. I wish them all the best for sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on July 20, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Good luck on Sunday to Antrim.

Problem child Liam Watson is the sort of maverick that every team needs. His rebel attitude means that he has no fear of any opponent. I just hope that Dinny has him well and truely focussed for the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bacon on July 21, 2010, 07:36:45 AM
Good luck Antrim. Great shot in the arm for hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on July 21, 2010, 07:45:54 PM
At last we are all rallying to the one cause - our county , not sectional club interests.
Also I feel Cork and the rest of Ireland will all see the genius and drive of Liam Watson - this will be his finest hour I feel.
Good luck to Winker and all the Antrim players but this match is teed up for Winker just like the golf he plays - a genius at anything he does .
Antrim can do it and let's all of us support every man with saffron on his back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AFS on July 21, 2010, 08:07:35 PM
Antrim U21 0-19
Down U21 1-12

Full Time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 21, 2010, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 21, 2010, 08:07:35 PM
Antrim U21 0-19
Down U21 1-12

Full Time

Were you at it AFS? The Club Antrim Twitter had it at 1 15 to 1 12. Seemed like the rain had a big impact on it.

Any feeling on how the minors will shape up against the Dubs on Saturday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AFS on July 21, 2010, 08:28:46 PM
Nope, just getting texts.

It's currently Armagh 0-5 Derry 0-0 in the other semi, if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: thehurler on July 21, 2010, 07:45:54 PM
At last we are all rallying to the one cause - our county , not sectional club interests.
Also I feel Cork and the rest of Ireland will all see the genius and drive of Liam Watson - this will be his finest hour I feel.
Good luck to Winker and all the Antrim players but this match is teed up for Winker just like the golf he plays - a genius at anything he does .
Antrim can do it and let's all of us support every man with saffron on his back.

Antrim play as a team, its not Winker Antrim Gaa  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 21, 2010, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 21, 2010, 08:28:46 PM
Nope, just getting texts.

It's currently Armagh 0-5 Derry 0-0 in the other semi, if anyone's interested.

i think armagh were 9/2 in paddy power for this game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 21, 2010, 08:59:44 PM
Cork 1/12
Antrim 15/2

Antrim (+9) 10/11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 21, 2010, 09:24:36 PM
i seen that, not bad bet. Galway were a decent price for their game with tipp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
Tipp will reach the final, all set up for a re match.

looking at getting the train down this sunday, the translink website says its £15 quid day return. but is that a web promo? or can you pay on the day???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AFS on July 21, 2010, 09:39:26 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 21, 2010, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 21, 2010, 08:28:46 PM
Nope, just getting texts.

It's currently Armagh 0-5 Derry 0-0 in the other semi, if anyone's interested.

i think armagh were 9/2 in paddy power for this game

Armagh won by 8 in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2010, 09:50:01 PM
great result for Armagh and Ulster hurling, Derry have done well at this level for many years so that shows you how well they have come on. whos looking after them?

Wee Jonty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on July 21, 2010, 10:34:28 PM
Winker a maverick. Boys lay off Watson. There are more mavericks on the Antrim TEAM than Watson. Why do people have to constantly snipe at him. Can you not see how the current crop of ANTRIM players get on and the management. That's what a team is all about and thats why teams win. Individuals never prevail over a team. For god sake wise up and lay of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2010, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on July 21, 2010, 10:34:28 PM
Winker a maverick. Boys lay off Watson. There are more mavericks on the Antrim TEAM than Watson. Why do people have to constantly snipe at him. Can you not see how the current crop of ANTRIM players get on and the management. That's what a team is all about and thats why teams win. Individuals never prevail over a team. For god sake wise up and lay of him.
Tom, this guy The Hurler is blowing smoke up his ass though! look i believe Liam is a great player, played against him many times and seen him play a lot. he has faults like many other players, if Antrim didn't have players with faults then we would be winning the Liam McCarthy Cup a lot!!!

I think for Sunday (have stated this before) that he needs to play on the half forward line. the games he has played in the FF line i feel he has been marked out of the game.

as for the way the players and management get on, your right Tom they seem to have something going on and its great.

lets hit Cork this Sunday, leave nothing behind and have no regrets at 3.25 pm (plus stoppage)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2010, 09:25:38 AM
MR2 couldnt agree more he isnt a stereotypical edge of the square ball winner, he is at his best coming on to breaking/ loose ball and making scores from there. He is unable to do this at FF just because of the nature of the position.

Then again maybe he is the best option for FF at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SambaSaffron on July 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
Tipp will reach the final, all set up for a re match.

looking at getting the train down this sunday, the translink website says its £15 quid day return. but is that a web promo? or can you pay on the day???
I'd imagine its a web promotion, I remember it was that way when the footballers played Sligo.

Won't get down to the game as I've a football game Sunday, hopefully a fair crowd travels down though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2010, 11:10:48 PM
aye tried to book it and it was booked out!!!!!

they then told me i could buy one for £40 quid !!! tossers

yes the Doc in papers complaining that we need big supporters at the gme then organises Football matches!!!! what da fook. i'm due to play div 5 game against the mighty Lisburn on Sunday night!!! i'llbe on my ........ pint
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 22, 2010, 11:35:24 PM
Without sounding like the county admin, the fixtures have been set for months. No reason why each club could reschedule. Especially with leagues running well, it must leave a fair few alternative dates. Would be hard to say every fixture in the county is off on sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
clubs are very suspicious of teams asking for rescheduling. points are very important this time of the season.  having managed many teams within the club I'm very reluctant of rescheduling, always backfires, always
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 24, 2010, 10:12:38 AM
having attended the official opening of Dunloy's new Sports Academy last night and seen it in use last week i have to say it a tribute to everyone involved, fantastic arena. 

We all whinge about some of the ills of the GAA but without question no other amatuer organisation could enable a small rural unit like Dunloy to have such facilities
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2010, 05:14:29 PM
is there any photos of the new facilities? i doubt we will be in Dunloy this year, or any year soon the way things are going :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 25, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
http://www.dunloycuchullains.co.uk/

Fair plat to them. A fair few hurlers will come out of those facilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 25, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
Watson lucky to be still on the pitch after only 2 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on July 25, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
doing well even now, even thouhg there is a fair few points in it, altough still 30mins left!
Title: Re: (No subject)
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2010, 03:47:18 PM
Can someone put the final score up? This is my only access to the outside world at the minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AFS on July 25, 2010, 04:01:18 PM
Cork 1-24 0-19 Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on July 25, 2010, 08:13:53 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 20, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Good luck on Sunday to Antrim.

Problem child Liam Watson is the sort of maverick that every team needs. His rebel attitude means that he has no fear of any opponent. I just hope that Dinny has him well and truely focussed for the game.

Af feck, truely embarrassing to see him drop like a tonne of bricks after being brushed by the Cork no 3.

Focus 9 out of 10.
Discipline 3 out of 10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 25, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
Game went as I thought it would have done. Antrim stuck with cork for the first half but the last couple of mins of first half killed us.

Unfortunately saw the 2 sides of Watson. Great game he had and proved a lot of people wrong and I include myself in that with his ability on the big day. The other side of him was ridiculous and should have walked after a couple of mins. I wonder if the CCCC will ask the ref to look at Watsons first challenge?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on July 25, 2010, 10:22:10 PM
Is Watson the hurling version of Kevin McGourty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on July 25, 2010, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 25, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
Game went as I thought it would have done. Antrim stuck with cork for the first half but the last couple of mins of first half killed us.

Unfortunately saw the 2 sides of Watson. Great game he had and proved a lot of people wrong and I include myself in that with his ability on the big day. The other side of him was ridiculous and should have walked after a couple of mins. I wonder if the CCCC will ask the ref to look at Watsons first challenge?

In defence of Watson i think that Cadogan flicked him in the balls beforehand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 25, 2010, 11:42:43 PM
After watching the incident on the tv it looked like a poke to the ribs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on July 26, 2010, 08:52:29 AM
Quote from: faughs on July 25, 2010, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 25, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
Game went as I thought it would have done. Antrim stuck with cork for the first half but the last couple of mins of first half killed us.

Unfortunately saw the 2 sides of Watson. Great game he had and proved a lot of people wrong and I include myself in that with his ability on the big day. The other side of him was ridiculous and should have walked after a couple of mins. I wonder if the CCCC will ask the ref to look at Watsons first challenge?

In defence of Watson i think that Cadogan flicked him in the balls beforehand.

At first glance I thought Watson was just acting the tr**p, but having seen the replay its clear that Cadogan struck first.  The dive was pathetic though.  Gardiner was as bad in the sending off incident.

Some good performances yesterday, with Donnelly standing out as well as Delargy and Watson.  McCrory got through a lot of ball aswell, with Johnny Campbell solid too.  McManus hit the frees well, but didn't really contribute anything from play and a few of the Antrim forwards were anonymous, with O'Connell doing very little and I don't remember seeing McCann with the ball apart from one catch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 26, 2010, 10:36:07 AM
Yeah I would agree with Hippy probably being Antrims top performer, thought SD was shakey and his distribution of the ball is poor. Why does he insist on running with the ball when he has time and space to hit it?

I thought that we struggled at midfield most, Kenny and CN both has excellent games and must have chipped in with 5 - 6 points between them.

In general Antrim performed well, few wee things that need tweaked but again I think it is from not hurling at this level all the time that mean those wee mistakes creep in when the pressure is on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on July 26, 2010, 05:28:11 PM
Lads. Whatever club your from there is no doubt that Watson was by far Antrims best hurler yesterday. Yes Hippy had a good game but O'Hailpin won two frees, scored a point and laid the hand pass of for the goal. Hippy is an exceptional full back and is probably the best full back Antrim have had for long and many a day. But he is still only 21 and has lots to learn. Because Watson got sent of shouldnt take away from his contribution yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on July 26, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on July 26, 2010, 05:28:11 PM
Lads. Whatever club your from there is no doubt that Watson was by far Antrims best hurler yesterday. Yes Hippy had a good game but O'Hailpin won two frees, scored a point and laid the hand pass of for the goal. Hippy is an exceptional full back and is probably the best full back Antrim have had for long and many a day. But he is still only 21 and has lots to learn. Because Watson got sent of shouldnt take away from his contribution yesterday.

Agreed, and id go as far as to say he was the best player on pitch.

That much was recognsied in the Irish Indie, and also Sean Og said that antrim had the two best players on the park, but cork were a better "team" - i presume he was talking about Hippy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on July 26, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
Good gutsy effort I thought. We were conceding loads in the physical stakes ( by far the younger team) as well as experience of real c`ship intensity that Cork would have been well accustomed to.

Antrim are a work in progress. Dinny/Bob/Jerry are hurling men who know exactly what it takes to succeed, and for me anyway, the most important thing to come out of yesterday is the fact that THEY wii have been encouraged with what they saw - versus the potential for further improvement.

With calibre of Neal Mc Auley and Aaron Graffin to enter into the mix, and prospects like young Mc Keague and Ciaran Clarke coming through there is no doubt there is a serious panel emerging. Interesting times ahead. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2010, 08:27:14 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on July 26, 2010, 05:28:11 PM
Lads. Whatever club your from there is no doubt that Watson was by far Antrims best hurler yesterday. Yes Hippy had a good game but O'Hailpin won two frees, scored a point and laid the hand pass of for the goal. Hippy is an exceptional full back and is probably the best full back Antrim have had for long and many a day. But he is still only 21 and has lots to learn. Because Watson got sent of shouldnt take away from his contribution yesterday.

So whats Watsons excuse then he is an experienced campaigner now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 01:00:40 PM
we played St Paul's last night in the South Antrim Championship (for players that aren't graded in the first 15) we had two players that played senior championship last year that weren't graded this year. so they played last nights match.

now, St Paul's are complaining saying we used players that played senior championship, my argument is that they are ungraded and regardless of what they did last year are still eligible to play in the South Antrim cup. am i right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
Milltown, it doesn't matter what your argument is, they shouldn't have played. Them's the rules.

I was talking to a fella from St Johns last night and he said Connor McSteen couldn't play because he played 10 minutes in the SHC last year. Apparently Gorts tanked them but they - GNM - also played some boys who played SHC last year. Bottom line here is both Galls and Gorts played ringers.

You'll find that if South Antrim apply the rules then yourselves and Gorts will be put out and the Johnnies and St Pauls will go through. That said the championship rule should relating to a previous year's competition serves no good, especially when there are no senior clubs in the city. Another reason for the need to change this rule is that clubs are struggling to get numbers out and with fellas being ineligible to play depletes already dwindling squads especially at this time of year when lads are away on holidays
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 01:30:21 PM
yeah was speaking to Rossa manager and he said the same. i know these rules did not apply a few years ago so they must be new.

the South Antrim board run these competitions, All County board run senior competitions. if your not graded then want competition can you play in?

In the Ulster intermediate run i played players for 5-10 minutes to give them a run out, to thank them for the effort at training.

but if they are the rules then we will be out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2010, 01:39:55 PM
Crazy rules we should be figuring out ways of getting players playing more often than sitting watching on!

As long as clubs would abide by them and not try to shaft other clubs by playing their good players down the grades for some short term success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 02:02:35 PM
Thats the problem NAG for years in South Antrim the bigger clubs did use their senior ungraded players to shaft not only the other clubs but people within their own clubs who were playing in the third tier and when championship came along the lads who had lined out all year were brushed to the side. It also killed off the competition as clubs like the Aggies, McDs, O'Ds who fielded teams at South Antrim level had no incentive to participate.

But you are right, we do need to change things to make it easier for players to play - the idea that a fella can't play South Antrim Championship because he played 10 minutes in a SHC match last year is just nuts.

The question is can the clubs be trusted to govern themselves?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2010, 02:22:06 PM
Exactly but in Belfast the clubs need each other more than ever, unless they realise this then the whole thing is in serious danger!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 02:55:49 PM
look if a player is ungraded then he can play, surely?

the county ask you to grade 15 players at the start of the year based on who played games for the senior team. after that then an ungraded player should be allowed to play in the ungraded competition that is the South Antrim cup.

if we played non cup tied players, considering our clubs run last year and the panel was small enough, we would not have fielded last night, players were used in games were we won by big scores just so they got a run out. i wouldn't say we are a big club in Belfast for hurling but we've entered teams in the leagues, div 2 and div 4 so that players get hurling to encourage it. now we are being punished for promoting hurling!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 03:09:52 PM
A fairer rule would be that the graded fifteen as well as anybody who has played championship at a higher grade that same year should not be considered as being eligible to play SA championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 03:28:47 PM
probably Frankie, i think though to be fair on the manager of the team he wasn't given a clear message as to what was the ruling.

would a replay be an answer?

have to laugh at St Johns putting in an objection over players being ringers ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2010, 03:30:50 PM
Kettle black and all that!

Still think it is a disgrace that they are playing Intermediate Championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 03:47:39 PM
They certainly have proved to be too strong for those who have come up against them, however, they haven't won anything yet and it would be wrong and disrespectful to dismiss Carey.

From a Johnnies perspective SHC proved unfruitful and didn't allow them to progress so IHC seemed like a logical step.

What it does show is the gap which exists between the grades in Antrim - for example the Johnnies are too weak for SHC but too strong for IHC. Where do they play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 27, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
Frankie, i honestly think it says more about their committment to their training and application to their games. There is more than enough talent in their squad to compete but it seems that drinking and carrying on are more important come the summer months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
I would agree that they sure have some quality but you're right NAG stag weekends and the like come championship don't really go hand in hand.

Hurling needs strong city teams and the Johnnies have the raw material to make a big splash if they apply themselves and hold on to the young talent they have developed. There certainly seems to have been a big change in attitude in Corrigan Park and to be fair I think that they have learned their lessons from their neighbours in Milltown. Their footballers appear to making progress but as they are punching below their weight in the hurling its hard to measure if they have made any progress. Assumimg they can come out of Antrim, attitudes, application and committment will be certainly tested in the trek through Ulster and beyond if they are fortunate enough to get that far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2010, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on July 27, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
I would agree that they sure have some quality but you're right NAG stag weekends and the like come championship don't really go hand in hand.

Hurling needs strong city teams and the Johnnies have the raw material to make a big splash if they apply themselves and hold on to the young talent they have developed. There certainly seems to have been a big change in attitude in Corrigan Park and to be fair I think that they have learned their lessons from their neighbours in Milltown.

Hurling will become strong again in the city again when city hurling men accross all clubs realise that they need to rely on each other to get the game back on it's feet again accross the whole of west Belfast. Too many kids have never been in through a GAA ground and too many clubs serving their own self interests by not inviting local clubs to play in their own orginised underage blitzes for instance. St Johns and Rossa being the clubs with hurling pedigree need to show the way and offer the hand out to the other clubs who need them to show them the way. Start worrying about beating teams at U14/16. Until then try to encourage all the clubs to get involved in a healthy fun enviroment where the primary focus is getting the skill levels up to the right standard in as many clubs a possible.

Before I get flamed...could I just add that that St Johns team a couple of years ago in U14 was the best side at that age group that I have ever seen in Antrim so don't think I don't know that the talent is there (and in Rossa as well...)...it's the rest of the clubs who need the big two to show them the way to develop a healthy thriving hurling scene?

Is this all alright in theory but totally unworkable in practice perspective?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 06:07:20 PM
I've no doubt that st johns will win the antrim championship and the only team i-d fear should they win their own championship would be keady. the problem after that would be the english champs then its munster or leinster winners! just cause we did ok last year doesn-t mean the johnnies will. totally different route
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on July 27, 2010, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 06:07:20 PM
I've no doubt that st johns will win the antrim championship and the only team i-d fear should they win their own championship would be keady. the problem after that would be the english champs then its munster or leinster winners! just cause we did ok last year doesn-t mean the johnnies will. totally different route

Middletown would be favourites for the Armagh Senior Cship this yr, a mainly young team compared to Keady, but Keady were strong fav's last yr and Middletown beat them well in the final, so you never know!
Title: Craobh
Post by: drici on July 27, 2010, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2010, 06:07:20 PM
I've no doubt that st johns will win the antrim championship and the only team i-d fear should they win their own championship would be keady. the problem after that would be the english champs then its munster or leinster winners! just cause we did ok last year doesn-t mean the johnnies will. totally different route

Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship:
(If a team that is not Keady win the Armagh SHC then they will compete in the Intermediate Championship:)

Quarter Finals:
Sunday October 3rd
Monaghan v Fermanagh
Tyrone v Down

Semi Finals:
Sunday October 10th
Antrim v Monaghan or Fermanagh
Armagh v Tyrone or Down

Final:
Sunday October 24th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Red Hurley on July 28, 2010, 11:38:26 AM
Are Keady and Middletown the only two teams that compete in the Armagh Championship, are everyone else Junior then ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on July 28, 2010, 01:43:51 PM
Armagh Cuchulains and Sean Treacys also compete in the Senior. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 28, 2010, 03:45:19 PM
I see from the South Antrim fixtures that St Galls are not being put out as they are down to play the Gorts or the Johnnies

Anybody any idea what the story is there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2010, 05:21:20 PM
first i've heard that Frankie. thats this Monday night.

fixtures say :

1.St Galls/St Pauls v 2. Gnmona/St Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 29, 2010, 09:24:32 AM
Congrats to the u21's last night didnt make it too the match, watched the Munster match on TG4 and that was some game, some of the best scores I have seen taken at any level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on July 29, 2010, 02:03:37 PM
Just heard that the SAHC semi-finals have been postponed until further notice.

What's the odds that it will be a typical SA farce and the competition will not be played?

Credit where its due, the SA League has been well run and the games have been regular but I just feel that the McGuigan Cup will be shelved.

Taking MR's point, it would be better to replay the games with eligible players rather than let a committee decide the outcome of a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2010, 02:13:23 PM
Yes Frankie the South Antrim leagues have been run really well these last few years. we pulled out of it ten years ago and entered a team in the leagues as the games were wild.

this year the only referee we have had has been Colly McKnight. and hes been very good.

the only answer to this problem is to let all the ungraded players play in the cup. then everyone is playing there strongest team. our team hasn't really changed. in fact our team is stronger than our Div 4 team as the seniors have struggled with numbers and have used a lot of our reserve team players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2010, 08:38:11 PM
just heard that St Pauls have their letter in and it wants us out, fair enough. they want to play in the next round, fair enough. And they want the five players (two of which are minors) suspended (apparently thats the rules)

First off, these lads were notified by their manager to play, so to suspend lads that didn't know they'd done wrong is bad craic. secondly the rule is daft, in that the South Antrim board have tried to enter teams in Belfast to promote hurling but because players came on for 10-20 minutes in championship All County, Ulster and the All Ireland series, then they will miss out on their own real Championship.

for them this is their chance to play a final in Casement at their level. if this goes ahead i hope we just pull out of the South Antrim leagues (we wont be missed) and concentrate on the All county leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
I think if any suspensions are being handed out the club officers will be in trouble too.

Ridiculous rule yet again but if it was in place then not much to be done now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 30, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
I think if any suspensions are being handed out the club officers will be in trouble too.

Ridiculous rule yet again but if it was in place then not much to be done now

In theory the club secretary is the person at fault and would be in for a suspension also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 09:25:42 AM
Senior Championship up and running last night and not a mention of it.

Shamrocks off to a good start and all without the prodical son appearing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2010, 09:58:51 AM
Where was he? Injured?

Strong enough sounding Loughiel team. Be interesting to see what they do later in the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:03:27 AM
This was more of a discipline thing from what I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 02, 2010, 10:10:07 AM
Match was really over before it got started, Loughgiel banged in 2 early goals hurling against a strong wind and really there was no way back for St Galls.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:16:11 AM
Any stand outs Max, would you be worried if you get passed Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 10:20:25 AM
the two early goals did somewhat kill the game, and i feared that they would continue with the goals, but Ciaran McGourty went into fullback and never give Ding a touch of the ball!! he was winding him up something shocking throughout the match.... in jest of course.

the loughgiel crowd were there as usual in big numbers and after the early goals didn't have much to shout about. Loughgiel would need to improve on that performance. We haven't trained at all this year (and it showed) but the game was competitive and fiesty at times. but 3-16 is still a good score without the Winker lad playing. i thought the Ballycastle game would have been played. did north Antrim pull out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:16:11 AM
Any stand outs Max, would you be worried if you get passed Rossa?

the Rossa game will be a good opener for Dunloy. would expect that game to be tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Think you'll find MR2 that wasnt Ding at FF as he was FB.

MR2 KS was very poor for you guys, he never hit leather in the first half. Came into a bit in the second half but id say the loughgiel mid fielders hit 4 between them.]

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 02, 2010, 10:33:44 AM
Thought st galls fought well throughout in many areas but their stick work just didn't match their endeavour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Signum Fidei on August 02, 2010, 10:44:15 AM
We had two training sessions the week before the game and even at that not even half the lads were there. Terrible season for us, saying that we were missing 6 starting players that played all last season.  some of the guys playing hadn't lifted a hurl since the AI.  We were never going to win it just had to put in a performance. I wouldn't judge loughgiel on that performance, they just had to get over that hurdle. Are main aim now would be to regroup and sort out our league performances.   

Dunloy Rossa could be close but expect dunloy to open it up the last 15-20 mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 02, 2010, 10:44:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:16:11 AM
Any stand outs Max, would you be worried if you get passed Rossa?

the Rossa game will be a good opener for Dunloy. would expect that game to be tight

Aye Rossa will be a big test, only team to ever have beaten us in the Ulster League and they also beat us in the u21 final last year so no one will be taking them lightly.

NAG i can't be bigging up loughgiel men, just not in me!! it wasn't really a game for stand out performances, Loughgiel always in control with St Galls battling hard to stay in touch, St Galls did force DD into a couple of good saves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Think you'll find MR2 that wasnt Ding at FF as he was FB.

MR2 KS was very poor for you guys, he never hit leather in the first half. Came into a bit in the second half but id say the loughgiel mid fielders hit 4 between them.]

oh! who was ff? fat guy with buck teeth
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 11:23:51 AM
MR2  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 02, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Think you'll find MR2 that wasnt Ding at FF as he was FB.

MR2 KS was very poor for you guys, he never hit leather in the first half. Came into a bit in the second half but id say the loughgiel mid fielders hit 4 between them.]

oh! who was ff? fat guy with buck teeth

Dim Dim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 02, 2010, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 02, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Think you'll find MR2 that wasnt Ding at FF as he was FB.

MR2 KS was very poor for you guys, he never hit leather in the first half. Came into a bit in the second half but id say the loughgiel mid fielders hit 4 between them.]

oh! who was ff? fat guy with buck teeth

Dim Dim?

It has to be!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 02, 2010, 11:58:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 10:20:25 AM
the two early goals did somewhat kill the game, and i feared that they would continue with the goals, but Ciaran McGourty went into fullback and never give Ding a touch of the ball!! he was winding him up something shocking throughout the match.... in jest of course.

the loughgiel crowd were there as usual in big numbers and after the early goals didn't have much to shout about. Loughgiel would need to improve on that performance. We haven't trained at all this year (and it showed) but the game was competitive and fiesty at times. but 3-16 is still a good score without the Winker lad playing. i thought the Ballycastle game would have been played. did north Antrim pull out?

Possible this game has been put back until after JHC/IHC Finals, as there would be a load of eligible N. Antrim players involved between Carey, Cloughmills and Cushendun - though not totally sure on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 02, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
I heard North Antrim had pulled out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
I had heard that the NA select were struggling for numbers at training etc and were in danger of being wound up and withdrawn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 11:23:51 AM
MR2  ;)

i'm messing ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 12:26:49 PM
In fairness I would say he probably finished with a goal and maybe 3 points, could be wrong but thought he was in around that tally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 02, 2010, 01:17:52 PM
The North Antrim site has it down to be because of the IC & JC finals. If there was maybe one club playing the NA select may have got away with it, but with the 3 teams dominating the select it wouldn't have been possible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on August 02, 2010, 02:25:54 PM
Lads need a few hurling sticks and i'm in the city tonight. Who would be my best bet?

Would like if i take a look at maybe a dozen sticks before i buy.

Is the caman hurl still being made, don't know who made them but used a few a couple of years back and they were a nice stick. Any others?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2010, 02:34:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 12:26:49 PM
In fairness I would say he probably finished with a goal and maybe 3 points, could be wrong but thought he was in around that tally.

yes as stated he didn't touch leather after McGourty moved on to him. DD pulled of two good saves. Some cracking scores from midfield for Loughgiel. they brought on a good player in the second half scored who hit a great point also.

I expected us to get hammered by more to be honest, but was happy with the honesty/effort of the lads that played. some young lads got their first game at that level and the experience they will get from will be invaluable.

they now play the South Antrim select team. the Johnnies i heard are not letting their players play. but with them playing the championship this week i think they should as it will be a fair aul break before the Ulster championship. Crossy is looking after them!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 02:37:26 PM
Crossy is looking after them!!!

Enough said, has there ever been a more over rated coach in the History of the GAA, foul mouthed abuse of players and officials for me does not stand up as coaching or someone we should be using to promote this divisonal team endeavour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 02, 2010, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2010, 02:37:26 PM
Crossy is looking after them!!!

Enough said, has there ever been a more over rated coach in the History of the GAA, foul mouthed abuse of players and officials for me does not stand up as coaching or someone we should be using to promote this divisonal team endeavour.

Aye but he's good with the kids  ;D

'f**k the f**k'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 02, 2010, 04:09:11 PM
What did men dip their sheep in in the County Down Johnny?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 02, 2010, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 02, 2010, 04:09:11 PM
What did men dip their sheep in in the County Down Johnny?  ;D

We've good arable land down here Skull so its mostly dairy and beef cattle with grain as well. Sheep is more a hilly type animal so if you want to dip into the sheep you're geographically better placed then me.

What's it like? I hear its a bit sinewy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2010, 11:15:04 AM
whats the programme of matches for this week and weekend then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
Ballygalget    Dunloy    Ballygalget   04/08/2010   19:00   TBC    Round 12   
Portaferry    Ballycastle    Portaferry   04/08/2010   19:00   TBC    Round 12   
Ballycran    Ballycastle    Ballycran   08/08/2010   13:30      Round 13   
Cushendall    Ballygalget    Cushendall   08/08/2010   13:30      Round 13   
Loughgiel    Portaferry    Loughgiel Shamrocks   08/08/2010   13:30      Round 13   
Loughgiel    Ballycastle    Loughgiel Shamrocks   10/08/2010   19:30   Willie Mitchell   Round 7

St Johns playing Carey in the final this weekend
cloughmills v Cushendun in the Junior

the Down teams doing some traveling this week!! Ballycran give Cushendall a beating at the weekend. Ballycastyle will need a few wins but away to the Down teams so will be hard for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 03, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Cushendall    2-12   2-19   Ballycran

Big win for Ballycran. Was anyone at the match?

It looks liike fight between Ballygalget and Ballycastle to avoid relegation. Sundays match is very important!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2010, 03:56:21 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 03, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Cushendall    2-12   2-19   Ballycran

Big win for Ballycran. Was anyone at the match?

It looks liike fight between Ballygalget and Ballycastle to avoid relegation. Sundays match is very important!

I would say it is a three way battle with ourselves also involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 03, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2010, 03:56:21 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 03, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Cushendall    2-12   2-19   Ballycran

Big win for Ballycran. Was anyone at the match?

It looks liike fight between Ballygalget and Ballycastle to avoid relegation. Sundays match is very important!

I would say it is a three way battle with ourselves also involved.

That's a good win for Ballycran alright and might be enough for them.

We've the Dunlodians tomorrow and Ballycastle on Sunday with the sunday game being more important as it's a 4 pointer using Sky sports parlance. I think after that we've cushendall and portaferry away so there's no easy points on offer.

Minder,
do you still have Ballycastle to play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 04, 2010, 09:00:44 PM
Just beaten by dunloy 2-13 to 3-16. Two bad goals in the second half stopped us making a better game of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 04, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 03, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 03, 2010, 03:56:21 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 03, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Cushendall    2-12   2-19   Ballycran

Big win for Ballycran. Was anyone at the match?

It looks liike fight between Ballygalget and Ballycastle to avoid relegation. Sundays match is very important!

I would say it is a three way battle with ourselves also involved.

That's a good win for Ballycran alright and might be enough for them.

We've the Dunlodians tomorrow and Ballycastle on Sunday with the sunday game being more important as it's a 4 pointer using Sky sports parlance. I think after that we've
cushendall and portaferry away so there's no easy points on offer.

Minder,
do you still have Ballycastle to play?

Aye in late August I think JC, play them in the championship on August 15th. In fairness to our manager he keeps them at it even when we are out of the championship. Years ago the tools were downed when we were out of the championship (which was sometimes in June in the old format!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 04, 2010, 09:07:03 PM
The town beat Portaferry by two  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 04, 2010, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 04, 2010, 09:07:03 PM
The town beat Portaferry by two  :(

Sorry Minder i will have to disagree with you on that result  ;D

Its impossible to predict how the league is going to end up this year. A team could get 9/10 points and still be relegated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
Bredagh are the Div 4 champions after last nights match in Cherryvale. decent team with plenty of pace and good hurlers they will stay in div 3 for sure and could well progress in a few years time into div 2.

I tried my best to spoil the party but they ran out 1-20 to 2-11 winners in a hard fought match.

Lecale 2 give my apologies to the two lads that i accidentally walloped, for once i didn't intentionally hurt them ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on August 05, 2010, 04:53:15 PM
Good man mr2. was  tough game alright with a few loose ones by both teams. youse have a few handy hurlers in that team and we were glad just to get through it. no disrespect to any of the teams, but its good to get out of that league, hopefully show well next year in div3.........as long as the leagues arent changed again. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 05, 2010, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 02:26:24 PM


Lecale 2 give my apologies to the two lads that i accidentally walloped, for once i didn't intentionally hurt them ;)

Thanks Milltown. Was a tight enough game.

Charlie has two broken fingers and Liam needed 22 stitches around his ear. Big Donal our full forwarded stitched him in the changing rooms!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 05, 2010, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 02:26:24 PM


Lecale 2 give my apologies to the two lads that i accidentally walloped, for once i didn't intentionally hurt them ;)

Thanks Milltown. Was a tight enough game.

Charlie has two broken fingers and Liam needed 22 stitches around his ear. Big Donal our full forwarded stitched him in the changing rooms!
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on August 05, 2010, 04:53:15 PM
Good man mr2. was  tough game alright with a few loose ones by both teams. youse have a few handy hurlers in that team and we were glad just to get through it. no disrespect to any of the teams, but its good to get out of that league, hopefully show well next year in div3.........as long as the leagues arent changed again. ;)
hope your lads are fine for Championship.

No disrespect taken Bredaghgael, yourselves and St Endas are better than that league. we had the  bear bones last night but they wanted to perform infront of the crowd that had gathered to watch the game.

enjoyed the league this year, was competitive in all the games and thats all you can ask for.

how will youse fair in the Down Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 05, 2010, 10:18:22 PM
Your right about St Enda's. They should be playing at a higher level. Maybe 4A & $B will be amalgamated but St Enda's should be moved up.

How come your IIs play in the All County rather than S Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on August 05, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 05, 2010, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 02:26:24 PM


Lecale 2 give my apologies to the two lads that i accidentally walloped, for once i didn't intentionally hurt them ;)

Thanks Milltown. Was a tight enough game.

Charlie has two broken fingers and Liam needed 22 stitches around his ear. Big Donal our full forwarded stitched him in the changing rooms!
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on August 05, 2010, 04:53:15 PM
Good man mr2. was  tough game alright with a few loose ones by both teams. youse have a few handy hurlers in that team and we were glad just to get through it. no disrespect to any of the teams, but its good to get out of that league, hopefully show well next year in div3.........as long as the leagues arent changed again. ;)
hope your lads are fine for Championship.

No disrespect taken Bredaghgael, yourselves and St Endas are better than that league. we had the  bear bones last night but they wanted to perform infront of the crowd that had gathered to watch the game.

enjoyed the league this year, was competitive in all the games and thats all you can ask for.

how will youse fair in the Down Championship?

Not too sure about the championship just yet, it will be very tough. Though on the plus side we play on the 22nd so it gives us  good chance to get out on the traning pitch and hopefully get ourselves a bit sharper, fingers crossed we will do alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2010, 11:57:24 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 05, 2010, 10:18:22 PM
Your right about St Enda's. They should be playing at a higher level. Maybe 4A & $B will be amalgamated but St Enda's should be moved up.

How come your IIs play in the All County rather than S Antrim?

about ten years ago we decided to take the team out of South Antrim as it was of a poor standard so we entered the All County leagues. we had great success winning a Junior Championship, beaten finalist a year later and winning two leagues. played in division two for two years before the county put us in the reserve leagues.

the south antrim board started the leagues up again two years ago and we entered them again and they have been run pretty well since.

funny how things change. our seniors in division two now when our reserve team was there only 4 years ago!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2010, 12:02:53 AM
A bit of stickwork milltown and youse wouldn't be a D2 side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2010, 12:13:02 AM
training Skull thats all we need, incident last night, i'm standing trying to get players out for our reserves, on the phone doing the usual 'where are ya' one of our minors comes do with his gear for minor hurling training only to find out its not on, so happy days he'll make 15!! no he promptly heads down to the pitch with the senior footballers!!!! the same lad could not get on any of his juvenile teams never mind any of our 3 senior teams!!!!!

we have a load of players chasing medals and tracksuits and believe they are part of the 'team' but really they will only warm the bench if they are lucky

that lad won't be playing on any teams that i'll look after. rant over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2010, 12:15:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 06, 2010, 12:02:53 AM
A bit of stickwork milltown and youse wouldn't be a D2 side

how long have we been saying that? Will never happen when they are as strong in football.

On a sidenote - DD Quinn was unceremoniously hauled off last night against us after letting a couple of soft goals in. Can imagine there will be all sorts of huffing and puffing and fallouts from that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2010, 12:18:37 AM
he has done that the odd time but was at his brilliant best against us in the championship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 09:20:10 AM
Good keeper and lucky with it which is a good combo.

Cant see him beig ousted by CO'C just yet in the Shams number one jersey. Very vocal at the back which is what thei defence probably needs at the moment  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 06, 2010, 11:25:12 AM
NAG now you are picking our team ! Well might be better to get your own house in order with your drinker !
You had a good result last week too , getting beat by a Down team at home .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 11:33:47 AM
Merely an observation thehurler!

What house would that be then  ;)

Offer another suggestion then since your so keen, put both of them in with that FB line you may need them  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on August 06, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: thehurler on August 06, 2010, 11:25:12 AM
NAG now you are picking our team ! Well might be better to get your own house in order with your drinker !
You had a good result last week too , getting beat by a Down team at home .

Didnt want to get involved in your little club v club tit for tat, but couldnt help myself.

Loughgiel  0-15 1-15 Ballycran  Loughgiel Round 4   ???   ???

PS unless im picking it up wrong youve got NAG and his club wrong anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 06, 2010, 12:07:47 PM
What??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 01:30:13 PM
I was starting to get lost there myself for a while.

Anyway, any more word on the divisonal sides?

Big game at the weekend the town down in the Ards, they'll be keen to follow up Wednesday night with another good result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2010, 03:03:39 PM
Sunday should be another nil pointer for us against Dunloy. I think we are favourites for the drop now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
Football championship this weekend Minder so would expect that match to fall to that with Dunloy being involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on August 06, 2010, 03:20:29 PM
Hi NAG. Hows your big rosy red cheeks. How's preparation going in the dall. Sure youse have it handy anyway and are more or less in the final barring a castasophre.

As for DD. Well even the best can have an off day. Loughgiel are in a lucky position with having two god keepers. No doubt DD will bounce back.

Anyway were still not good enough yet. Dunloy will probably have the indian sign on us again when they beat Rossa. We need more forwards and a few defenders to step up.

I also hear that there is a lot of in fighting and no-one is getting on. Time to get it sorted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2010, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
Football championship this weekend Minder so would expect that match to fall to that with Dunloy being involved?

Still on as far as our boys are concerned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 06, 2010, 03:39:31 PM
Ah sure the 'dall are certs this year and with the county deserter drinker coming back they'll walk it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2010, 03:48:09 PM
tom - Admire your honesty about your team or is it a bit of tomfoolery!  ;)

Wouldnt know how preparations are going in C'Dall but if I hear I will let you know.

thehurler - you want to share with the rest of us what you are on about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 06, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on August 06, 2010, 03:20:29 PM

We need more forwards and a few defenders to step up.


Your players haven't stepped up to the plate since The Tremeloes were #1. No Henry Halls, thats your problem right there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 07, 2010, 08:15:52 AM
Nearly sure its off Minder.

A think a bit of tom foolery going on with tom moore, one thing Dunloy don't have over Loughgiel is an Indian sign given that only for 2 last minute goals in the feis final last year we wouldn't have beaten you in any of our last 5 encounters (league, feis, championship)

I honestly believe we'll see shocks in this years championship, the last shock in championship i can recall is when cushendun scored 5 goals to beat Rossa in 2000 possibly, maybe the year Loughgiel got beat by Ballycastle in Dunloy.

Ballycastle, Glenarriffe and Rossa are all capable of making an upset
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 07, 2010, 11:24:35 AM
You are correct Max, it is off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2010, 11:26:57 AM
Rogie is a good trainer but not sure of his managing skills, drill officer type
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
The Johnnies beat Carey 1-11 to 1-07 tight enough game by the looks of it.

Cloughmills have beaten Cushendun

Ballycastle stuffed by Ballycran and ballygalget beat also. things hotting up at the bottom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 09, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Horrendus game, St Johns were rubbish and must have hit between 15 and 20 wides.

Carey were plucky and made it a dog fight but the goal came to late for it to make any difference. Hard to pick out our county men from this poor poor showing.

St Johns will need to improve if they are to progress in Ulster which can be the only reason they dropped to this level anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 09, 2010, 10:36:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
The Johnnies beat Carey 1-11 to 1-07 tight enough game by the looks of it.

Cloughmills have beaten Cushendun

Ballycastle stuffed by Ballycran and ballygalget beat also. things hotting up at the bottom

We're deep in the mire with both Ballycastle and Portaferry to visit. I think we'll need to win both to stand a chance.

St Magic is due back at the end of the month but lord only knows with him if he'll be back or not.

Ballycastle somehow have to play Loughgeil twice, us and Glenariffe, with Glenariffe still got Cushendall, Dunloy and the Castle.

If we can beat the Castle then there's a chance of it going down to the battle of waterfoot providing no one picks up points elsewhere!!

I still think that if Ballycastle are at the bottom there'll be no relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 09, 2010, 12:04:17 PM
From the look of that match last night it maybe wouldnt be such a bad thing when the standard of the level below is so poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
SHC 1/4-Finals

Cushendall v Gort Na Mona    Dunloy   14/08/2010   17:00
Loughgiel v S. Antrim            Dunloy   14/08/2010   18:30

Glenariffe v Ballycastle    Loughgiel   15/08/2010   17:00
Dunloy v Rossa            Loughgiel   15/08/2010   18:30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2010, 02:27:11 PM
whats with these North Antrim venues!!!! us city folk don't have a chance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 02:36:07 PM
Looks like its all about the money in that set of double headers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 09, 2010, 02:38:35 PM
 Once the city men start to take it seriously then they will be afforded a venue of their choosing until such times, enjoy the trip up the M2 - MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2010, 02:41:41 PM
I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!!

I'm joking of course, i'll be at the game on Sunday, i'm out on saturday night with the missus so wont see the South antrim team against Loughgiel, Crossy V Nelson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 09, 2010, 02:49:05 PM
I know so was I

Have you heard any word on how the SA select are working, dont expect them to be any use to Loughgiel but it would be nice to see some sort of a game, as opposed to a walk over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
No word as yet, havent spoke to the 'others' but the Johnnies should use it for prep for the All Ireland run. Lamhs out of both championships also so no reason they and St Pauls not to have players involved. Sarsfields have one or two players also but i'd expect a few early goals and Loughgiel to stroll it. I'd expect Watson to start this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 09, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
SHC 1/4-Finals

Cushendall v Gort Na Mona    Dunloy   14/08/2010   17:00
Loughgiel v S. Antrim            Dunloy   14/08/2010   18:30

Glenariffe v Ballycastle    Loughgiel   15/08/2010   17:00
Dunloy v Rossa            Loughgiel   15/08/2010   18:30

Are the semi final pairings already agreed yet does anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 09, 2010, 04:16:08 PM
I think - winners of Cdall and GNM vs Winners of Oisins and The Town

and the rest self explanatory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2010, 05:28:50 PM
Glenarriffe / Ballycastle has the potential to be a good one.

With an important league game coming up too I'd say there'll end up being a bit of needle in one or both of these games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2010, 07:30:30 PM
South Antrim Board have suspended some our players after they played in a South Antrim competition two weeks ago, they were un graded players but had played in various games in our Inter. championship last year. now the players were told they could play but have since been told that they will have to serve a 12 week suspension!!!!

you would get less if you hit the referee in an Championship game in Croke Park!!!! (Mr Galvin)

the punishment does not fit the crime, a competition that is only in place for the south antrim player as his chances of getting a start on the senior team are slim and he will not be playing hurling the rest of the year!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2010, 09:34:53 AM
Harsh I would agree but there has to be some sort of action taken for this kind of thing to try and keep some order in these types of competitions.

I would say that there should have been better communication between SA and the Club invovled but this does not appear to be the case.

My feeling is on it that if this was a football competition this error would not have occured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 11, 2010, 12:36:30 PM
Is it not usually the club secretary that gets banned in these cases?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2010, 12:49:10 PM
Crazy, our manager has asked can he take full responsibility. i phoned the lads yesterday when i found out, seething is a word that can be used for how they are feeling.

Gorts in the same position, they played a fella also against St Johns and got kicked out aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on August 11, 2010, 01:37:22 PM
"I was going up to play a minor match tonight when i was told by my manager i wasnt allowed to play because im suspended... this is why ... I took part in intermedite championship last year... i played south antrim championship this year after being told i was allowed too... im a minor and cant be graded(well so i thought) and i got 12 weeks.. this means i miss my last games in minor and miss minor hurling championship.. Can anyone explain this or help me???"

seen this on the county website and surely he has a point how can a minor be inegliable wen he cant be graded?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2010, 02:41:11 PM
aye two of the lads are Minor, apparently its not a rule either.

but rules in Antrim can be changed when needs be, sure there have been high profile county players have had their suspensions reduced leading up to County games and at the business end of Club Championships!! correct me if i'm wrong Minder ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2010, 02:51:16 PM
They'll have to turn those over on appeal though - surely. The minors at least.

I know rules in competitions are rules but it is secretary's and managers roles to sort this not 17 year old players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
ache don't get me started. I played in the match and had we not played the 'ungraded' players we would not have been able to field!!

i 'm more annoyed at the suspensions, grand kick us out and replace the other team in our place but the players had no knowledge of the rule, in fact before a ball was thrown in one player asked the referee and he said as long as you didn't play this year you'd be grand!!!

only realised something was up when we noticed players that we played against in the league were standing watching the game from the sideline!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 11, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
The whole minor thing about grading is an unwritten rule to encourage that they don't be graded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2010, 02:44:34 PM
Well a big championship weekend again!

Anyone see any upsets or does everyone think it will go according to the script.

What about Ballycastle vs Glenariffe, should be the pick of the games I have a feeling the town will be just a bit too good for them but not by much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2010, 04:08:42 PM
Rossa will push all the way, the Ballycastle game will end up with a couple of red cards and the others will go to plan, heavy scores for Loughgiel and Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 12, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
The winners will be predictable - Cushendall , Glenariffe , Dunloy and ourselves.
The town's match against Glenariffe would be pick of the round . Glenariffe's team spirit will be too much for a very unfulfilled town side who cannot accept that now they are pretty far behind the rest and really need more structures  in place around their senior side if they are to push on. Last year they ran a poor Dunloy side close.The town have a few older heads alright but the younger ones are too light  in the forwards in particular the soccer boys are just passing the time.It is sad to see with all the good work done by Joe Cassidy at C and Passion not being brought on to the next level  , they showed foresight with their pitch development but on the coaching side thet are light years away from senior success.They will be lucky to stay in Div 1.A town side with a few committed families but that is all , they need to take ownership of the club to the whole club and get a bit  outside help on the coaching side.Compare this to Glenariffe and the population they have to pick from , they must certainly punch above their weight and are a credit , Ballycastle could learn from them and at the weekend they will learn after a heavy defeat to Glenariffe ,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 12, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 12, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
The winners will be predictable - Cushendall , Glenariffe , Dunloy and ourselves.
The town's match against Glenariffe would be pick of the round . Glenariffe's team spirit will be too much for a very unfulfilled town side who cannot accept that now they are pretty far behind the rest and really need more structures  in place around their senior side if they are to push on. Last year they ran a poor Dunloy side close.The town have a few older heads alright but the younger ones are too light  in the forwards in particular the soccer boys are just passing the time.It is sad to see with all the good work done by Joe Cassidy at C and Passion not being brought on to the next level  , they showed foresight with their pitch development but on the coaching side thet are light years away from senior success.They will be lucky to stay in Div 1.A town side with a few committed families but that is all , they need to take ownership of the club to the whole club and get a bit  outside help on the coaching side.Compare this to Glenariffe and the population they have to pick from , they must certainly punch above their weight and are a credit , Ballycastle could learn from them and at the weekend they will learn after a heavy defeat to Glenariffe ,

Shall i bite! who won the Championship last year

As for the games, not sure if Loughgiel will even get a game and if they do they should rack a heavy score as will Cushendall

Dunloy v Rossa is a huge game for ourselves, Rossa are no mugs having beaten us in last years Ulster League Semi and will have improved as a result of another years hurling for their talented u21 winners.  But contrary to reports Dunloy are still a force and we will relish this years championship

I think the town are an excellent side, with real potential in if the young soccer lads really commit they could be a major force the coming years, i think they will have too much for Glenarriffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on August 12, 2010, 09:32:42 PM
Ballycastle have won two of the last 3/4 U-21 championships, there has to be something coming through to the seniors. I do not see much Div 1 hurling so I am in no place to judge but I would expect them to put it up to Glenariffe. Last year both Glenariffe and Ballycastle ran Dunloy close so they cannot be that far away. If you read too much into league results you start to think C Dall are not a good team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2010, 10:15:16 PM
I don't see how anyone, that isn't on the wind up, thinks we will beat the town easily. Ballycastle are in better form going by league results (which is the only form to go on at present). We also have couple of suspensions ruling players out. There is usually very little between us and Ballycastle and we would have no hangups playing them, but I am not sure we are playing well enough at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2010, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 12, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 12, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
The winners will be predictable - Cushendall , Glenariffe , Dunloy and ourselves.
The town's match against Glenariffe would be pick of the round . Glenariffe's team spirit will be too much for a very unfulfilled town side who cannot accept that now they are pretty far behind the rest and really need more structures  in place around their senior side if they are to push on. Last year they ran a poor Dunloy side close.The town have a few older heads alright but the younger ones are too light  in the forwards in particular the soccer boys are just passing the time.It is sad to see with all the good work done by Joe Cassidy at C and Passion not being brought on to the next level  , they showed foresight with their pitch development but on the coaching side thet are light years away from senior success.They will be lucky to stay in Div 1.A town side with a few committed families but that is all , they need to take ownership of the club to the whole club and get a bit  outside help on the coaching side.Compare this to Glenariffe and the population they have to pick from , they must certainly punch above their weight and are a credit , Ballycastle could learn from them and at the weekend they will learn after a heavy defeat to Glenariffe ,

Shall i bite! who won the Championship last year

As for the games, not sure if Loughgiel will even get a game and if they do they should rack a heavy score as will Cushendall

Dunloy v Rossa is a huge game for ourselves, Rossa are no mugs having beaten us in last years Ulster League Semi and will have improved as a result of another years hurling for their talented u21 winners.  But contrary to reports Dunloy are still a force and we will relish this years championship

I think the town are an excellent side, with real potential in if the young soccer lads really commit they could be a major force the coming years, i think they will have too much for Glenariffe[/b]
This has been repeated for about 15 years. Eventually it will come true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2010, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 12, 2010, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 12, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 12, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
The winners will be predictable - Cushendall , Glenariffe , Dunloy and ourselves.
The town's match against Glenariffe would be pick of the round . Glenariffe's team spirit will be too much for a very unfulfilled town side who cannot accept that now they are pretty far behind the rest and really need more structures  in place around their senior side if they are to push on. Last year they ran a poor Dunloy side close.[/b]The town have a few older heads alright but the younger ones are too light  in the forwards in particular the soccer boys are just passing the time.It is sad to see with all the good work done by Joe Cassidy at C and Passion not being brought on to the next level  , they showed foresight with their pitch development but on the coaching side thet are light years away from senior success.They will be lucky to stay in Div 1.A town side with a few committed families but that is all , they need to take ownership of the club to the whole club and get a bit  outside help on the coaching side.Compare this to Glenariffe and the population they have to pick from , they must certainly punch above their weight and are a credit , Ballycastle could learn from them and at the weekend they will learn after a heavy defeat to Glenariffe ,

Shall i bite! who won the Championship last year

As for the games, not sure if Loughgiel will even get a game and if they do they should rack a heavy score as will Cushendall

Dunloy v Rossa is a huge game for ourselves, Rossa are no mugs having beaten us in last years Ulster League Semi and will have improved as a result of another years hurling for their talented u21 winners.  But contrary to reports Dunloy are still a force and we will relish this years championship

I think the town are an excellent side, with real potential in if the young soccer lads really commit they could be a major force the coming years, i think they will have too much for Glenariffe
This has been repeated for about 15 years. Eventually it will come true.

Pot Kettle Black me thinks

Also not always the answer as has been proved before in many clubs inluding your own!
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Post by: samboswig on August 13, 2010, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
SHC 1/4-Finals

Cushendall v Gort Na Mona    Dunloy   14/08/2010   17:00
Loughgiel v S. Antrim            Dunloy   14/08/2010   18:30

Glenariffe v Ballycastle    Loughgiel   15/08/2010   17:00
Dunloy v Rossa            Loughgiel   15/08/2010   18:30

Anyone fancy predicting scores?

Glenariffe 3-09 - Ballycastle 1-14

If Tosh is playing, he'll score goals past them. The old fake hand pass routine and then bam.

Dunloy 1-13 - Rossa 2 -12
I think Rossa are gonna sneak in here.

Loughgiell won't get a game, and Cushendall will win by +12 points.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2010, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: samboswig on August 13, 2010, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
SHC 1/4-Finals

Cushendall v Gort Na Mona    Dunloy   14/08/2010   17:00
Loughgiel v S. Antrim            Dunloy   14/08/2010   18:30

Glenariffe v Ballycastle    Loughgiel   15/08/2010   17:00
Dunloy v Rossa            Loughgiel   15/08/2010   18:30

Anyone fancy predicting scores?

Glenariffe 3-09 - Ballycastle 1-14

If Tosh is playing, he'll score goals past them. The old fake hand pass routine and then bam.

Dunloy 1-13 - Rossa 2 -12
I think Rossa are gonna sneak in here.

Loughgiell won't get a game, and Cushendall will win by +12 points.

Anyone else?

Fell for that once at our pitch. the night the champion league final was on when United beat Bayern 2-1. that was some game (the hurling) can you mind that match Minder??

Samboswig, i'd say you could be right but i think Rossa's kids are good but experience is the key factor, also if the game had been in Belfast i would go with your tip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
I remember it well Milltown, scumbags winning finished off a bad night for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2010, 11:07:26 PM
well good times, played against Carey the other night (yes senior) Hurling is some game. think we will win enough games to stay up.

Hope yourselves and Ballygalget manage to stay up ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2010, 11:11:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2010, 11:07:26 PM
well good times, played against Carey the other night (yes senior) Hurling is some game. think we will win enough games to stay up.

Hope yourselves and Ballygalget manage to stay up ;)

Can't see Ballycastle going down, regardless of where they finish  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2010, 11:16:38 PM
yeah we all know that. so win your match, well both matches, i'll be down on Sunday night, should be two good games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 14, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
Just back from our game. Finished 5.18 to 7 points. A bit flaterring for ourselves after only being 9-4 up at half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 14, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 14, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
Just back from our game. Finished 5.18 to 7 points. A bit flaterring for ourselves after only being 9-4 up at half time

Who was the big fella doin full forward for yous Colonel?  Took two of his goals well but the Titanic would turn quicker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on August 14, 2010, 10:06:31 PM
Anyone fancy rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
not really but they will certainly be up for it,  heading down tomorrow so i hoping for a good game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 15, 2010, 10:36:04 AM
It was Conor Carson. Scored 3-3 I think which is a great return. I don't think he's that slow to be fair Gelvis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
No shocks tonight  Rossa hit too many wides and Dunloy did enough to win. Ballycastle impressed in the second half, and will give the Dall a game but see only one winner there.

can Dunloy beat the Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 15, 2010, 11:34:09 PM
First game was poor i thought but a win is a win so happy enough. Glenariffe had 3 or 4 wides in first 5/6 mins of 2nd half and if they had got them things could have been different. Took Ballycastle a good 10 mins to get going in the 2nd half but they took some nice scores after that and the only shock towards the end of the game was that Glenariffe kept 15 players on the field. I thought they lost their discipline and were very ragged towards the end. Cushendall won't be losing any sleep tonight after watching that match and they will be big favourites for the semi.

Dunloy do look like the team to beat still. Some of the intelligence, movement and team play from them was superb tonight. Rossa did hit a bagful of wides right enough but even if they had got some of them the Dunloy forwards looked like they could have got the scores when needed. Rossa have some talent to work with for the future though (i liked the look of their 2 corner forwards in spells) and if they keep developing they will be contenders again in a few years.

Unless the Shamrocks get it right on the day i cant see past a Cushendall Dunloy final again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 16, 2010, 08:40:23 AM
Quote from: samboswig on August 13, 2010, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 09, 2010, 01:54:57 PM
SHC 1/4-Finals

Cushendall v Gort Na Mona    Dunloy   14/08/2010   17:00
Loughgiel v S. Antrim            Dunloy   14/08/2010   18:30

Glenariffe v Ballycastle    Loughgiel   15/08/2010   17:00
Dunloy v Rossa            Loughgiel   15/08/2010   18:30

Anyone fancy predicting scores?

Glenariffe 3-09 - Ballycastle 1-14

If Tosh is playing, he'll score goals past them. The old fake hand pass routine and then bam.

Dunloy 1-13 - Rossa 2 -12
I think Rossa are gonna sneak in here.

Loughgiell won't get a game, and Cushendall will win by +12 points.

Anyone else?

Worst predictions ever.

Rossa hit 19 wides, and Dunloy always looked to have something else to give if things got sticky.

My next predictions: Ireland to be free by next week, and Thatcher to shuttle off the week after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on August 16, 2010, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 15, 2010, 11:34:09 PM
First game was poor i thought but a win is a win so happy enough. Glenariffe had 3 or 4 wides in first 5/6 mins of 2nd half and if they had got them things could have been different. Took Ballycastle a good 10 mins to get going in the 2nd half but they took some nice scores after that and the only shock towards the end of the game was that Glenariffe kept 15 players on the field. I thought they lost their discipline and were very ragged towards the end. Cushendall won't be losing any sleep tonight after watching that match and they will be big favourites for the semi.

Dunloy do look like the team to beat still. Some of the intelligence, movement and team play from them was superb tonight. Rossa did hit a bagful of wides right enough but even if they had got some of them the Dunloy forwards looked like they could have got the scores when needed. Rossa have some talent to work with for the future though (i liked the look of their 2 corner forwards in spells) and if they keep developing they will be contenders again in a few years.

Unless the Shamrocks get it right on the day i cant see past a Cushendall Dunloy final again.

Who were they? Armstong and Turley by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2010, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
No shocks tonight  Rossa hit too many wides and Dunloy did enough to win. Ballycastle impressed in the second half, and will give the Dall a game but see only one winner there.

can Dunloy beat the Loughgiel?

I think the question should be Can Loughgiel beat Dunloy?  Dunloy and Cushendall must be strong favourites to reach the final for the 2nd year in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2010, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 16, 2010, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
No shocks tonight  Rossa hit too many wides and Dunloy did enough to win. Ballycastle impressed in the second half, and will give the Dall a game but see only one winner there.

can Dunloy beat the Loughgiel?

I think the question should be Can Loughgiel beat Dunloy?  Dunloy and Cushendall must be strong favourites to reach the final for the 2nd year in a row.

I don't think anyone in Dunloy will be getting too carried away after last night, Rossa missed a bagful of chances and Dunloy need serious improvement in the full line before they face the shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 11:06:47 AM
Poor enough game Max?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 16, 2010, 11:07:47 AM
Expected more from Rossa and I suppose if they'd have been able to put the ball over the bar they'd have given us a fair oul match. Some of the worst shooting I can ever remember seeing. Made for a pretty tame encounter as a result. We've plenty to work on. Few boys who've been star performers had a bad day and they'll learn from that. Thought our midfield & half forward line got through some great work at times and we had flashes in the other areas enough to know that with the right effort improvements will come. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2010, 11:58:10 AM
When are the Semis?

I assume they'll both be North Antrim venues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 12:01:02 PM
Saturday 28th and Sunday 29th as far as i heard.

Dont think the venues have been fixed yet but I could see Dunloy for the Cushendall Ballycastle match and more than likely Ballycastle for the other one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2010, 02:47:07 PM
So are we dismissing Loughgiel here?

Ballycastle deployed Hippy on Tosh and that stopped a tosh from playing, Tosh missed a hat full of frees also and when the Glenariffe's full back went off injured, Ballycastle scored another goal.

If played again i could see ballycastle getting beat, it was that sort of game. Pinky and hippy played well and young Clarke up from showed well for the ball despite getting some attention, which is grand by me, cause a lad is young he shouldn't get any extra protection from the referee.

Dunloy played well in the first ten minutes and 5 minutes later Rossa were level!! but once the goal was scored there was only one winner. Ally can still stick the ball over the bar from tight angles, his first point was typical of him. won ball out wide and slotted ball over. simple.

i really thought Rossa would have been better to be honest. Stephen Shannon is a strong lad hit the ball miles but seems as if he's not interested!! Young McGuinness up front was very good and its players like that, who'll turn Rossa fortunes around.

So the predictable 3 in the semi finals. Dall to the final and its a toss of a coin on the other game.

which brings me to the other subject, St Johns, Rossa, ourselves (though our league form says different) Gortnamona are stuck in Limbo. too good to be in intermediate and rubbish at senior level. this needs fixing

we are working hard, good lads in there working and coaching the kids but no return. annoying as f**k!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 03:04:54 PM
Good post MR2 it is frustrating when you are putting in the work and looks like there is no return but eventually it will pay off.

I dont think anyone is writing off loughgiel not sure if having the by will do them good or will harm with lack of games.

They seem to be set up slightly different this year only thing is they dont seem to know what their best team is position wise, think Johnny Campbell is the only constant at CHB.

Dangerous game for Dunloy for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 16, 2010, 03:28:19 PM
This game versus Dunloy is set up perfectly for us . Dunloy were the worst team in the last 20 years to win a senior championship. They stole it from the 'dall and mc gee was in inspiring form that day and 'dall should have had game over at half time , but they didn't but i am convinced they are a bad side and not a wind up going on here. We will blow them out of the  park , this years set up is very organised and everyone is totally championship focussed , and with joey scullion , and winker we will destroy a nigglly dunloy defence .I also  can see at least 2 dunloy red cards in this game if refereed properly , they are very nasty/treacherous  at the back and hopefully the officials will see this.Dunloy will not count here even against Rossa yesterday if rossa had any sort of shooting practice , stickwork done it may have been different result. I cannt wait until  we will hammer them and then their supporters can have plenty of time to arrange their trips to watch their beloved soccer team playing in Glasgow.They are  great soccer supporters there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 16, 2010, 03:28:19 PM
This game versus Dunloy is set up perfectly for us . Dunloy were the worst team in the last 20 years to win a senior championship. They stole it from the 'dall and mc gee was in inspiring form that day and 'dall should have had game over at half time , but they didn't but i am convinced they are a bad side and not a wind up going on here. We will blow them out of the  park , this years set up is very organised and everyone is totally championship focussed , and with joey scullion , and winker we will destroy a nigglly dunloy defence .I also  can see at least 2 dunloy red cards in this game if refereed properly , they are very nasty/treacherous  at the back and hopefully the officials will see this.Dunloy will not count here even against Rossa yesterday if rossa had any sort of shooting practice , stickwork done it may have been different result. I cannt wait until  we will hammer them and then their supporters can have plenty of time to arrange their trips to watch their beloved soccer team playing in Glasgow.They are  great soccer supporters there!

Post of the week! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 16, 2010, 03:28:19 PM
This game versus Dunloy is set up perfectly for us . Dunloy were the worst team in the last 20 years to win a senior championship. They stole it from the 'dall and mc gee was in inspiring form that day and 'dall should have had game over at half time , but they didn't but i am convinced they are a bad side and not a wind up going on here. We will blow them out of the  park , this years set up is very organised and everyone is totally championship focussed , and with joey scullion , and winker we will destroy a nigglly dunloy defence .I also  can see at least 2 dunloy red cards in this game if refereed properly , they are very nasty/treacherous  at the back and hopefully the officials will see this.Dunloy will not count here even against Rossa yesterday if rossa had any sort of shooting practice , stickwork done it may have been different result. I cannt wait until  we will hammer them and then their supporters can have plenty of time to arrange their trips to watch their beloved soccer team playing in Glasgow.They are  great soccer supporters there!

Post of the week! :D

This guy is unbelieveable !! Either a total WUM or totally deluded - take your pick!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2010, 04:02:32 PM
Does the pound have internet access now?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2010, 06:18:09 PM
No but the glenbush has!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on August 16, 2010, 08:38:09 PM
Obviously the hurler is deluded and quite obviously he is from another club stirring it up.

Anyway we all know whats ahead of us in Loughgiel. Dunloy Antrim and Ulster champions need I say anymore. A team with at least 70-80 Antrim and Ulster championship winning medals between them.

Have Loughgiel a chance. Well of course they have a chance. Dunloy rightly so will be favourites but on any given day Loughgiel are capable of beating Dunloy and given that it is a semi final and not a final they will be under less pressure.

I hear that that young Babs is getting the most out of Loughgiel this year so they will be dangerous but Dunloy arent Antrim an Ulster champions for nothing. Their management and players know what it takes and have serious experience.

So can anyone stirring the sh1t at least have the balls to say what club your from and stop impersonating people from Loughgiel. Are you really that scare of them or just embarressed to say what club your from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 16, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: Link on August 16, 2010, 10:12:01 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 15, 2010, 11:34:09 PM
First game was poor i thought but a win is a win so happy enough. Glenariffe had 3 or 4 wides in first 5/6 mins of 2nd half and if they had got them things could have been different. Took Ballycastle a good 10 mins to get going in the 2nd half but they took some nice scores after that and the only shock towards the end of the game was that Glenariffe kept 15 players on the field. I thought they lost their discipline and were very ragged towards the end. Cushendall won't be losing any sleep tonight after watching that match and they will be big favourites for the semi.

Dunloy do look like the team to beat still. Some of the intelligence, movement and team play from them was superb tonight. Rossa did hit a bagful of wides right enough but even if they had got some of them the Dunloy forwards looked like they could have got the scores when needed. Rossa have some talent to work with for the future though (i liked the look of their 2 corner forwards in spells) and if they keep developing they will be contenders again in a few years.

Unless the Shamrocks get it right on the day i cant see past a Cushendall Dunloy final again.

Who were they? Armstong and Turley by any chance?

No. 13 was Turley but 15 was a Chris McGuinness and he certainly has pace. Early in the game he skinned 2 Dunloy defenders and came in on the endline and got a point out of although it did look wide. 19 wides overall though for Rossa and thats too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2010, 10:30:52 PM
 wise words tommoore. What about mr watson? Is he back on the straight and narrow? Anyone know if graffin is coming back for the semi?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on August 16, 2010, 11:30:29 PM
Watson was never of the straight an narrow with the club. Typical nonsense about his antics from people outside the team who speculate and create bullshit about him and his actions. His discipline under young Babs has been excellent and in fairness young Babs knows how to work with him and he seems to respect that.

Because of who he is he attracts more attention than other players. There is no doubt that he will play on Sunday week, barring injury. I know that the club and Donegal Celtic have an arrangement about training and matches so all is good. People need to realise that Watson makes a living playing soccer.

Unfortunately we have a few injuries so we'll be hoping that they clear up in time to give us every chance of progressing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 17, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
I take it this young Babs you talk about is big PJ?

Is Nelson a coach and advisor then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2010, 11:10:58 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 17, 2010, 09:20:13 AM
I take it this young Babs you talk about is big PJ?

Is Nelson a coach and advisor then?

Must be this type of arrangement johnny ;D

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 17, 2010, 04:17:49 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 17, 2010, 05:08:52 PM
My point is Dunloy yes are holders but in my opinion they are the worst team in the last 20 years to win a senior championship. Yes every year for the last few we are being touted as winners and through a variety of reasons we have fallen short but this year especially with young babs as you call him , jim nelson etc i co-ordinating things and the standard having fallen i feel we will beat Dunloy easily and shade the dall in the final.My only worry is our own disipline and that Dunloy's nasty play will go unpunished by the ref and linesmen etc..
Regarding Winker I  stand over my claim that he is one of the best hurlers in Ireland. We have been knocking on the door for so long and with our history, this year we will open it and go far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2010, 05:14:42 PM
Even if you're are old enough, I would doubt a half wit like you would have the brain power to remember the last 20 years championship teams. Listen to your "fellow clubman" tommoore and give us all a break.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 18, 2010, 09:04:38 AM
"We have been knocking on the door for so long and with our history, this year we will open it and go far."
The sooner you forget about this history bullshit the sooner you might get your hands on "Big Ears".
And as for Winker, a flawed genius would be my take on him so best not pile on too much expectation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 18, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
Guys, stop responding to this fool !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2010, 09:26:27 AM
Aye I think he is on the wind up. Since only 3 teams have managed to win the championship in the last 20 odd years he hasnt a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 18, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
Loughgiel beat Ballycran last night in the Ulster League after extra time.  Any reports?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 18, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
Yer man Blaney the manager is a fanatic, he has the Crans burstin for an Ulster and they might just be coming back on form at the right time. Would say they're as focused as L'giel think they are, but they are sadly f#cked as history dictates they would not be as deserving of it as the Shams. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2010, 09:54:27 AM
Hi scoring at Corrigan last night! What way does that leave things now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 19, 2010, 12:14:45 PM
paddy power odds for the championship are:
Cushendall  11/10
Dunloy 2/1
Loughgiel 5/2
Ballycastle 9/1

Dall favourites as they play the town, dunloy next to them ( current champs) seems about right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 19, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Paddy Power deserves to be rid out - throw your money on us . We are certs , the 'dall are not the team they were and Dunloy are a downright poor nasty side. It is our championship to lose and as long as we get the right protection from refs and linesmen it is ours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 19, 2010, 12:49:11 PM
Cushendall  11/10
Dunloy 2/1
Loughgiel 5/2
Ballycastle 9/1

So if I were to give you £20 who would you put it on? 

I think I'd have a punt on Loughgiel !!  Cushendall too short at 11/10, Ballycastle not good enough, toss up between Dunloy and Loughgiel so I'd stick it on Loughgiel because of the longer odds.

Any one else any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 19, 2010, 12:55:02 PM
Was at Corrigan last night. Game was good enough craic - the goals killed Rossa. Two soft ones in particular. I was impressed with Simon McCrory. He's a good hurler. I hadn't really seen it before to be honest, but he stood up when it mattered and got a couple of important scores.

Cutt was at his lark as usual. Hateful. Rossa now faced with another year of that sh ite. It won't do their development any favours. If those younger ones don't develop, what happens then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Dont think they are ready to come up just yet and another year improving down there might be just what the doctor ordered. Thats if they continue to put the effort in.

What was the craic with SMcC's scores did he kick them over or just run the ball into the net ala an egg and spoon race?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 19, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Milltown whats your odd's on survival in Div 2. Do you think you will stay up? Glenarm look certs to come into it.

Rossa had some great young players on Sunday. Forwards were not scared to take a run at the Dunloy defence, especially Armstrong and McGuinness. Pity their shooting was off.

What was Ger Cutt up to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: HurlingFollower on August 19, 2010, 01:25:18 PM
Simon Mc Crory along with Brian McFall had great games for the Johnnies last night. Again the Rossa forward line looked dangerous when running with the ball, but the goals seemed to suck the life out of them all over the field, though they fought back well from each one. Future in both clubs certainly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2010, 02:34:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 19, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Milltown whats your odd's on survival in Div 2. Do you think you will stay up? Glenarm look certs to come into it.

Rossa had some great young players on Sunday. Forwards were not scared to take a run at the Dunloy defence, especially Armstrong and McGuinness. Pity their shooting was off.

What was Ger Cutt up to?

will we stay up? will depend on the next two games, we played Carey last week, we won handy and that puts them below us on points and score difference, should we stay ahead of them then we will be grand.

having no manager this year has hampered us. with the success of last year we have a lot of boys away on extended holidays, ok for the footballers but real bad for the hurling team. such a small pool of players to use and they play football also. I'm even back playing for the senior team so that gives you an idea of where we are at!!!

Carey were poor enough against us and we have to play Gaels twice st Paul's and Lamhs at home. The Johnnies will be tough also. nothing guaranteed till the last day, but its in our own hands.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 19, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Paddy Power deserves to be rid out - throw your money on us . We are certs , the 'dall are not the team they were and Dunloy are a downright poor nasty side. It is our championship to lose and as long as we get the right protection from refs and linesmen it is ours.

Come on son!!! WUM's try to be a little less obvious.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 20, 2010, 01:22:50 PM
We are down to play Glenariffe this weekend. Hopefully come through unscathed

Squad to play Tipp tomorrow. Its actually not a bad squad but Tipp are so strong it'll not be close. Game is on Tg4

Antrim Squad  v Tipperary

Saturday 21st August

Tullamore @ 4pm.

Eoin Gillan
Martin Graham
Cormac Donnelly
Darren Hamill
James Campbell
Christopher Kearns
Christopher Brogan
Kevin Molloy
Neil Cunningham
Michael Devlin
Conor Rocks
Mark Lynch
Terry McAlister
Stephen Shannon
Liam McAuley
Matthew Donnelly
PJ O Connell
Eamon Laverty
Thomas McCann
Michael Armstrong
Conor Carson
Adrian Downey
Martin Burke
Gerard Laverty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 20, 2010, 05:38:20 PM
On the face of it that is a strong squad as you say Colonel.

Am guessing a fair few are still underage next year. If we can get some strong commitment at this age group then there can be serious improvement with some of them.

I hope they realise they have nothing at all to lose and get stuck in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
It could get very messy tomorrow if Tipp go at it full pelt. That is as good as an U-21 team as I have seen in a while. If they get a decent lead all the seniors will be taken off sharpish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 20, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
I think they might even keep them in reserve. I doubt they'll be needed but on stand by in case of any emergency

EDIT

tipp team named

J Logue; K O'Gorman, J Coghlan, M Cahill; J Barry, Padraic Maher, B Maher; S Hennessy, N McGrath, S Carey, Patrick Maher, B O'Meara; M Heffernan, P Murphy, J O'Dwyer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
It could get very messy tomorrow if Tipp go at it full pelt. That is as good as an U-21 team as I have seen in a while. If they get a decent lead all the seniors will be taken off sharpish.

Minder they are plus 18!!! do you think they could keep it that close?? thats a hell of a handicap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2010, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 20, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
It could get very messy tomorrow if Tipp go at it full pelt. That is as good as an U-21 team as I have seen in a while. If they get a decent lead all the seniors will be taken off sharpish.

Minder they are plus 18!!! do you think they could keep it that close?? thats a hell of a handicap

They will be doing well to keep it to bet that handicap, of the fellas are rested there will be other fellas busting their balls trying to get a place for the final. Tipp 1/100 to win the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 01:23:23 PM
was thinking that, the players coming on bursting a gut to impress. feck 18 points is a lot though.

ok will go with Tipp minus 18 Dublin to win the other
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jackmckee on August 22, 2010, 04:19:47 PM
Search party out in the Ards, apparently some north antrim kids have got lost on their way, didn't arrive at 3 o'clock. Their parents will be worried. Hope they turn up safe and sound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 23, 2010, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 19, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Milltown whats your odd's on survival in Div 2. Do you think you will stay up? Glenarm look certs to come into it.

Rossa had some great young players on Sunday. Forwards were not scared to take a run at the Dunloy defence, especially Armstrong and McGuinness. Pity their shooting was off.

What was Ger Cutt up to?
Just introducing Mickey Armstrong to senior hurling when the ball wasn't around. Tough lad. Funny that, seeing how his balls dropped off 2 years ago in Casement when he was lining Jim Close. They must have regrown.

Spot On, although young Armstrong should be well able to handle himself once he's got settled. You've a great memory too Hardstation. Jim Close has a serious set of boolers on him and Cutt lapped it that day alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 23, 2010, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 19, 2010, 01:18:52 PM
Milltown whats your odd's on survival in Div 2. Do you think you will stay up? Glenarm look certs to come into it.

Rossa had some great young players on Sunday. Forwards were not scared to take a run at the Dunloy defence, especially Armstrong and McGuinness. Pity their shooting was off.

What was Ger Cutt up to?
Just introducing Mickey Armstrong to senior hurling when the ball wasn't around. Tough lad. Funny that, seeing how his balls dropped off 2 years ago in Casement when he was lining Jim Close. They must have regrown.

Hardstation,

Just curious, what size of a crowd would show up for a Johnnies Rossa league match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 23, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: jackmckee on August 22, 2010, 04:19:47 PM
Search party out in the Ards, apparently some north antrim kids have got lost on their way, didn't arrive at 3 o'clock. Their parents will be worried. Hope they turn up safe and sound.

Aye, what happened there?

I see on the Antrim web site its down as 'not played' rather than a DNF.

Max, Skull, any insider knowledge.

Our relegation battle with Portaferry wasn't played either due to a death in Portaferry.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
 ???

Our footballers we're due to play championship on Sat evening but this fixture was moved back to Monday because of a couple of our U21's playing against Tipp

As a result of that change the match was called off. Did youse not know about the postponement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 23, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
ddin't know about the football being moved.

I thought it was to do with the U-21's on the saturday but I'd noticed that Loughgeil and Ballycastle played their game and was wondering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 23, 2010, 11:52:49 AM
Like Skull i heard the match had been cancelled because of the changed date of the football championship we've 6/7 players who play both.

Couple of big results from the weekend, Cushendall gave Glenarriffe a bit of a beating, which isn't entirely unexpected given its just a week since Glenarriffe exited the championship.  Loughgiel did however hand out a bit of a drubbing to the Town, in Ballycastle too.  Not surprised they won but thought it'd be much closer than 16 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 24, 2010, 10:51:16 AM
Is having a football game the following day a legitimate reason to call off a hurling match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2010, 11:49:45 AM
If you've got alot of dual players and the match the next day is championship, yes is the answer. We've actually 9/10 dual players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2010, 12:09:41 PM
our senior championship game was played on the friday night against MG then we played St Pauls in an important match in div 2 hurling and lost heavily!!! on the Sunday night. on hindsight we should have had our game called off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 24, 2010, 02:10:09 PM
you've got it the wrong way around MR2, had your championship been on Sat evening would you have played the hurling on Fri?

The footballers train all year for the championship, bit unfair to throw them a league match in county down the day before a championship Quarter Final, and it just wouldn't have been possible to play without them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 24, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Well Sunday is nearing and good old Dunloy are focussing on an intermediate football game !
Maybe they should begin to think about hurling again but then maybe they have given up on the senior hurling championship and are very concerned about the intermediate football championship ! It is a long time since they were not capable of fielding in a senior hurling league game but their focus is on the football.
Well let's hope we have a fair referee and linesmen on Sunday and at last we will get our chance to show how hurling is played and I  bet there will be at least two Dunloy red cards on Sunday along side a heavy defeat for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2010, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 24, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Well Sunday is nearing and good old Dunloy are focussing on an intermediate football game !
Maybe they should begin to think about hurling again but then maybe they have given up on the senior hurling championship and are very concerned about the intermediate football championship ! It is a long time since they were not capable of fielding in a senior hurling league game but their focus is on the football.
Well let's hope we have a fair referee and linesmen on Sunday and at last we will get our chance to show how hurling is played and I  bet there will be at least two Dunloy red cards on Sunday along side a heavy defeat for them.

Someone like Herbie?  :)

Ya clampit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 25, 2010, 03:52:59 PM
Isn't great on the week of championship Dunloy concentrating on football ????
And I  kid you not it is not Celtic Football club but our own native game , they did well the other night anyone have a team  from it to see all these dual players ?
Again sad to see a once proud club not able to field in hurling.
On to Sunday any idea on the Dunloy lineout ? A bet is they'll start with 15 but definitely not finish with 15 if we have vigilant linesmen , umpires and a fair referee.!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 04:18:16 PM
Cushendall by 5, Dunloy by 1

As for red cards Thehurler i would say that Loughgiel have a great lad at getting sent off. where will Liam be playing this weekend? inside left of midfield or top of the right ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 25, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
the hurler Your a bit of a mad ...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Do you think that the Antrim County board insured that the Loughgiel game was a Sunday to facilitate someone who'd be playing football on the Saturday?

or it was maybe just lucky that it was ;)

good luck to all teams this weekend, will make one game, not sure which one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 26, 2010, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Do you think that the Antrim County board insured that the Loughgiel game was a Sunday to facilitate someone who'd be playing football on the Saturday?

or it was maybe just lucky that it was ;)

good luck to all teams this weekend, will make one game, not sure which one

Saccer footbawl you mean?

Down CB also moved a championship game to facilitate a saccer footbawl player in the not too distant past.
It made no odds in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 26, 2010, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Do you think that the Antrim County board insured that the Loughgiel game was a Sunday to facilitate someone who'd be playing football on the Saturday?

or it was maybe just lucky that it was ;)

good luck to all teams this weekend, will make one game, not sure which one

Nonsense.  The Dunloy v Loughgiel game is big game of the weekend (no disrespect to either Cushendall or Ballycastle).  It makes sense to have it on the Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
Double header at Casement on the Sunday would have made sense but.........

I'm only joking about the reason, there is no way the county board would do such a thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 26, 2010, 12:27:52 PM
again its the whole idea of bringing 4 NA clubs to belfast. Dunloy was fine for us the last day, even though their was no dugouts! Shouldn't matter where you play althought Loughgiel might be the happier of their pair. Casement hasn't been good to them, but they have a decent record in semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 26, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
I feel the town match v 'dall should have been in Loughgiel , a better atmosphere ,dug outs etc.. but maybe the county board is giving Dunloy a chance of a gate to help them pay for their non fielding fines!
On the game itself it is getting near to the game and all is pointing to a Dall v otherselves final. All this week I feel Dunloy have totally lost focus on the big picture - championship hurling and have got bogged down in silly issues but fear does that !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 26, 2010, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: thehurler on August 26, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
I feel the town match v 'dall should have been in Loughgiel , a better atmosphere ,dug outs etc.. but maybe the county board is giving Dunloy a chance of a gate to help them pay for their non fielding fines!
On the game itself it is getting near to the game and all is pointing to a Dall v otherselves final. All this week I feel Dunloy have totally lost focus on the big picture - championship hurling and have got bogged down in silly issues but fear does that !!!

You'd need one quare big dug out for the amount of 'support' staff young Babs  :D had with him the night he was down in Ballygalget.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2010, 10:07:32 PM
thats a serious pasting Dunloy got, though to be fair its a good Jonnies team. Cushendall won by a point in extra time.A last minute goal to win it.

think the Johnnies will be too strong but I'm sure they won't take the Dall lightly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 26, 2010, 10:37:08 PM
Dunloy minors are really poor. I think our boys beat them by a good bit more than 20 points. Not a good team although I think they had a few county minors. Cushendall have done well to get past a strong Ballycastle team.

When will be final be scheduled?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 27, 2010, 09:51:42 AM
The Jonnys are very sharp with a very tidy U16 team on their heels which is a strong bolster for the panel. Jonty's plans are coming together nicely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 27, 2010, 10:36:23 AM
very rare a minor match gets as much posting on this site  ::)

I didn't get to the game last night but have watched quite a few matches this year and actually thought we had a decent team, never expected us to win the championship, the problem is when things go bad they go big style,

In 20 years with 11 senior championships we've only won 1 minor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 27, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Is Jonty not still serving that 2 year ban that was dished out from Croke Pk which would mean he can't train any teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2010, 05:41:38 PM
Was with armagh last year and won in croke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 27, 2010, 09:48:41 PM
Hail glorious saint magic of ballygalget. The big man (and tanned) arrived home this afternoon, came on in the second half to put the ports to the sword, 1-17 to 0-17 in the relegation battle. He'll need to do the same in two weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on August 27, 2010, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2010, 05:41:38 PM
Was with armagh last year and won in croke!

Jonty took Armagh to Nicky Rackard All Ireland glory this yr!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 28, 2010, 08:15:09 PM
Was it handy enough for Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2010, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 28, 2010, 08:15:09 PM
Was it handy enough for Cushendall?

Don't think it was too handy. They won 0-11 to 0-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
very low scoring game!!! not the 1/12 favourites the bookies made out, but they are in a final and thats that.

will the winners come from the other draw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2010, 01:03:18 PM
Loughgiel are now 8/11 favourites to beat Dunloy tonight!!! big money pushed on them late last night i'd imagine.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
Shamrocks by 8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2010, 08:46:09 PM
In all honesty I'm not that surprised. Loughgiel will be favourites for the final.

Cushendall will need to improve on the Ballycastle game. If Loughgiel win the final they may give the All Ireland a good rattle. i always fancied they were well equipped to do well if they were to get past Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 29, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Jesus Milltown your getting way ahead of yourself there. Of course they go in as favourites having beat Dunloy, but its way to early to talk All Irelands!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jackmckee on August 29, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
Cant believe anyone could tip the bodies as favourites for a final! Don't make me laugh. How many finals was it in a row? Plus Winker on the scrap heap. If Dunloy had started at all the bodies would have been away home again crying. Have to love how early the Dall are tryin to shift the favourites tag this year! God bless them all! You have to love them. The Dall for the All Ireland!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 29, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
That was the longest 60 mins of senior championship hurling I ever watched with the best team getting over the line comfortably in the end. Loughgiel looked in much better physical shape and thankfully for them didn't choke again, but Dunloy were poor and in reality it was over when Ally was carried off in the first half. Considering what I saw tonight and reports from the other semi, the final looks like shaping up to be a fairly dull affair.
BTW, thought Kevin Molloy was excellent tonight, great tackles, blocks right to the final whistle, unfortunately not enough of his calibre available to the Dunloy selectors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2010, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 29, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Jesus Milltown your getting way ahead of yourself there. Of course they go in as favourites having beat Dunloy, but its way to early to talk All Irelands!

getting past Antrim Colonel i said!! thats the difference. look Loughgiel's bench is pretty good. if i'm being honest and no offence colonel, after Cushendalls first 15 they don't really have a player or two who could change the game.

But if Cushendall play to their strengths then they will win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 29, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
Well Dunloy sorted  , dall next which should be easier if sat night anything to go by!
Dunloy posters I await your analysis .......
Regarding the All -Ireland presuming we get past Dall we would have leinster and that would be a tough draw but well who knows things have been very focussed this year so you just never know what this panel is capable of..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 29, 2010, 10:37:33 PM
No offense taken MR. We have struggled with injuries for the last while but hopefully they will have cleared up in time for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2010, 10:47:03 PM
Here's the problem for Loughgiel now, they have a few weeks to prepare for the final with the whole village thinking they have it in the bag, the hype and all the other craic that goes on could hinder them.

looking forward to the final, should be in Casement ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 30, 2010, 10:55:27 AM
It'll be in Casement surely! Is the Football final scheduled the same day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
has been in the past (same day finals) but i reckon it may be different. We don't play the Johnnies till the 11th i think and thats the quarter final!!! your talking first week in November i think!!

that really is a long time, good if Cushendall have some injury concerns or getting boys fit. as i said before harder for Loughgiel. if the final was next week i'd say they would win it. I must check the odds on this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on August 30, 2010, 02:46:11 PM
Watched both semis, thank god I didn't have to pay in. Cushendal v ballycastle was poor and the conditions and light was also. Both teams struggled to get any flow and the Ref looked a bit like "Sludden", i.e. a carrying 2 stone extra and not able to keep up with play! Seemed quite arrogant and shouted a lot at the players and blew a lot for menial challenges without taking conditions into account. Cushendal need to up the tempo and spread the play, struggled to find any momentum and wiil need to do their homework if they are to progress from Antrim.

Last nights game had a bit of bite to it, Dunloy looked tired and Loughguil definitely had a game plan, that boy Watson is some operator, freedom of the forward line and drew two/three men with him in doing so, scored a magnificent point Midway through the second half. On the referee, he blew what I can only assume was for delaying the puck out one time, bit strange to say the least, caught the incident near the end perfectly and gave just deserts, and seemed consistent on the overcarrying for both sides and stayed out of it which is good to see for a change. Physical encounter to say the least, great atmosphere and Loughguil will be hard to beat.

As far as Ulster is concerned, I feel the Down winners may actually surprise everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2010, 03:13:03 PM
Both teams are 5/6 for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 30, 2010, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on August 30, 2010, 02:46:11 PM

As far as Ulster is concerned, I feel the Down winners may actually surprise everyone.

Surprise wouldn't be the word I had in mind. Shock might be a better fit.

The three senior teams in Down are mediocre at best with Ballycran being the pick of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 30, 2010, 04:28:57 PM
Who started in goals yesterday for the loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 30, 2010, 05:55:52 PM
DD was in goal for Loughgiel.  Fantastic save 10 minutes into 2nd half when Dunloy looked to be gaining the upper hand.  Some good catches in the 1st half also.  Best in the County as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 30, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
Well the dunloy posters must be taking the bank holiday off and getting a dose of reality , i knew it would be easy and the scoreline actually flatters Dunloy , now they can concentrate on Celtic their great soccer team.
They didn't finish with 15 surprise surprise ! It is just great to see the chickens come home to roost .
I am very keen to hear from Dunloy posters .Maybe they were missing a lot of players and we'll hear the rubb ish about great learning experience for our younger ones etc.. but if we had  A B C we'd have won  yawn yawn..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 31, 2010, 12:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
has been in the past (same day finals) but i reckon it may be different. We don't play the Johnnies till the 11th i think and thats the quarter final!!! your talking first week in November i think!!

that really is a long time, good if Cushendall have some injury concerns or getting boys fit. as i said before harder for Loughgiel. if the final was next week i'd say they would win it. I must check the odds on this one

Thats a Semi-Final MR - try to keep up with your bogballers progress  :D  Finals will probably be first weekend in Octoberl as a double header.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 31, 2010, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: thehurler on August 30, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
Well the dunloy posters must be taking the bank holiday off and getting a dose of reality , i knew it would be easy and the scoreline actually flatters Dunloy , now they can concentrate on Celtic their great soccer team.
They didn't finish with 15 surprise surprise ! It is just great to see the chickens come home to roost .
I am very keen to hear from Dunloy posters .Maybe they were missing a lot of players and we'll hear the rubb ish about great learning experience for our younger ones etc.. but if we had  A B C we'd have won  yawn yawn..........

Can anyone with a bit of wit muster up something like a match report?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2010, 10:23:14 AM
JC pretty poor match.

Breeze blowing stong in Ballycastle as per usual. First half was nip tuck with Dunloy looking threatening enough playing into the breeze. Coming up to half time Loughgiel put a bit of a spurt on reeled off 3 points unanswered. Ally Elliott got injured and had to go off disrupted them a bit by the look of it. Loughgiel had a strong second quarter of the half all over.

Second half never really got going, Dunloy will rue the missed frees not sure but think it could have up around 6-7 inside the 70 yard line. Loughgiel worked hard packed the defence and that and a combination of sloppy poor play from dunloy meant there was no road back for them.

Overall quality very poor and little bite in the match, sending off came late in the game and had no real effect on the outcome except maybe to open dunloy up for the last few scores. Loughgiel didnt play particularly well but then they didnt need to as Dunloy didnt show up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2010, 10:37:28 AM
Gutted....

very, very disappointing performance from Dunloy on Sunday and fair play to Loughgiel the best team won, while i couldn't ever hope they win a championship if they do go onto to win it they will have earned it.

Our record against Loughgiel is poor in the last few years with only really a feis cup final win (that was scarcely deserved) since the county final of 2007 and it something we will need to look at, unfortunately we've a long winter ahead to do just that.

The game itself was lost in the 10 minutes either side of half time, we had been fairly competitive in the 'first half of the first half' and were level at three points a piece having missed a few chances and looked the more likely to get a goal.  Indeed from a long way away it appeared Paddy Richmond was being held in the box having made a fantastic catch, perhaps a 50/50 call, last year we got them on Sunday we didn't.

The half swung on a brilliant point by Winker, on his own 45 when he struck it.  This raised the tempo and the Shamrocks reeled of a further 4/5 unanswered points before the half while our woes in front of the posts continued.

The first 10 Min's of the second half we were well on top, James McKeague who had an excellent game driving Dunloy on, however Loughigel opening the scoring from a free to go 7 up, we brought the game back to 4 points with 20 Min's to go and a strong wind at our back, however crucially we missed 4 Free's, a couple of goal chances/half chances and wasted a few decent possessions.  This gave Loughgiel the belief they needed to go on a finish the game out comfortable and deserving winners.

For Dunloy James McKeague was very good and Kevin Molloy excellent in marking Winker, forcing way out the field to get any possession but bar that we left our true form in the training field

Loughgiel put in a serious team performance, very sticky at the back, good in midfield and kept chipping away with scores upfront.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
I'd agree with that NAG. We didn't show up. It's not the first bad day out we've had in Ballycastle in recent years  :(  (Not a nice place to watch a match)

Poor game. Physical enough but lacked any real depth of quality. LG were the more composed team throughout though. They also looked far more displined in the exchanges than I've seen them so I think they've learned a bit this year from jim I mean babs  ;) . Everything we done looked forced. We had all the chances to bring ourselves back into the game but lacked the composure up front to make the difference. Some good performances from LG, Barney and Eddie McC especially. It's a 50/50 final. I reckon the dall will take great heart having graffin and shane back for the final as it gives them far better options up front. Surprisingly they will most likely go in as underdogs and that will suit them fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on August 31, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
Well put Dunloy posters - I like your grace in defeat.
I will now leave Dunloy alone but one point is Maxpower in soccer ( the game lots in Dunloy follow Celtic etc.) it is called the box in hurling it is the square , small point but I don't like hurling people refer to it as the box, it is the square.
Now my sights are on Cushendall and I could write a book on the antics there.
2010 the year of the shamrocks continues with amazing things to come ...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 31, 2010, 11:21:43 AM
The night they were down with us Digger was fullback and Jonny Campbell was centre three quarters, niether was really tested that night, did Babs stick with that or was campbell back in at centre back?


If the final isn't until the first week in October why the rush to play off the semi-finals?

Surely it'd have been better to tip away and get the league finished off and then get the semi-finals played mid september.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2010, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: aontroim on August 31, 2010, 12:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
has been in the past (same day finals) but i reckon it may be different. We don't play the Johnnies till the 11th i think and thats the quarter final!!! your talking first week in November i think!!

that really is a long time, good if Cushendall have some injury concerns or getting boys fit. as i said before harder for Loughgiel. if the final was next week i'd say they would win it. I must check the odds on this one

Thats a Semi-Final MR - try to keep up with your bogballers progress  :D  Finals will probably be first weekend in Octoberl as a double header.

Yes semi final, how silly of me. finals should be in 4 weeks.

aye Johnney, seems a long time and will help Cushendall i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 31, 2010, 11:25:18 AM
Final is scheduled for 26th September I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2010, 11:50:42 AM
It is a long run in for Cushdendall to get their players back into shape and for the loughgiel players to be sitting around worrying about the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 31, 2010, 09:28:24 PM
why would loughgiel be worrying about the final? 4weeks gives them time to get players fit also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2010, 10:03:22 PM
Loughgiel i feel would win the match had the match been next week, Cushendall have more players injured than Loughgiel I'd imagine.

Pressure is on both teams, Loughgiel for being afraid to lose another final, Cushendall pressure of losing to loughgiel in a final.

Cushendall's defence is strong, graffin, delargy, mcmanus, McCambridge, Scullion, and a couple of other lads. Up front they are over reliant on Shane but I'm sure AD will be back McNaughton's also could chip in with scores.

as for Loughgiel well they have a great team but if Cushendall snuff out their attack then it will be a dog fight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 01, 2010, 09:16:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2010, 10:03:22 PM
Loughgiel i feel would win the match had the match been next week, Cushendall have more players injured than Loughgiel I'd imagine.

Pressure is on both teams, Loughgiel for being afraid to lose another final, Cushendall pressure of losing to loughgiel in a final.

Cushendall's defence is strong, graffin, delargy, mcmanus, McCambridge, Scullion, and a couple of other lads. Up front they are over reliant on Shane but I'm sure AD will be back McNaughton's also could chip in with scores.

as for Loughgiel well they have a great team but if Cushendall snuff out their attack then it will be a dog fight.

Always baffles me how easily this Loughgiel team gets referred to as a 'Great Team', especially by City men.  We won 2 out of three championships and everyone was on saying how ordinary a team we were, they win nothing, get to a few finals and they're a great team.

I can't be having that, get to a final you're a decent team, win one you're a good team, win back to back you're a great team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on September 01, 2010, 09:33:34 AM
I wouldn't say we are a great team compared to the '83 side but we are a good side and with the structures , organisation and the detail we go into to improve our game we can be a great team to rival the '83 team. We are streets ahead of any club in terms of preparation and are very focussed and I have a feeling we will give the All-Ireland a good shot this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on September 01, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 01, 2010, 09:33:34 AM
I wouldn't say we are a great team compared to the '83 side but we are a good side and with the structures , organisation and the detail we go into to improve our game we can be a great team to rival the '83 team. We are streets ahead of any club in terms of preparation and are very focussed and I have a feeling we will give the All-Ireland a good shot this year.

It amazes me how people forget facts. Every single year, you hear two big massive bangs as Loughgiel's boolers hit the floor. This normally happens in the tunnel underneath the stand in Casement, around 15 minutes before the start of the county final.

Winning that game is what makes a team a good team. Not the fluency of training drills, or pastings handed out to teams in the league.

What sets Dunloy and Cushendall apart from Loughgiel is a bit of class. Dunloy and Cushendall have players ( and supporters ) with a bit of honour and style about them. They win, they celebrate, they lose, they get on with it. They allow others to pass judgement on their achievements, and don't worry about how they are perceived. They are comfortable in their own skin.

Getting to umpteen county finals, does not make you a big team. It actually confirms that you are habitual losers. And unable to perform at the only time when it actually matters.

Even the Rossa team that won a few years ago can sleep more soundly at night knowing that they performed when it was required.

I for one will be in Casement this year hoping for more of the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 01, 2010, 10:35:29 AM
Your just feeding the troll there. I have every confidence that I'm more a LG man than that clampit. History will have taught real LG folk to their powder dry for this final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 01, 2010, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 01, 2010, 09:16:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2010, 10:03:22 PM
Loughgiel i feel would win the match had the match been next week, Cushendall have more players injured than Loughgiel I'd imagine.

Pressure is on both teams, Loughgiel for being afraid to lose another final, Cushendall pressure of losing to loughgiel in a final.

Cushendall's defence is strong, graffin, delargy, mcmanus, McCambridge, Scullion, and a couple of other lads. Up front they are over reliant on Shane but I'm sure AD will be back McNaughton's also could chip in with scores.

as for Loughgiel well they have a great team but if Cushendall snuff out their attack then it will be a dog fight.

Always baffles me how easily this Loughgiel team gets referred to as a 'Great Team', especially by City men.  We won 2 out of three championships and everyone was on saying how ordinary a team we were, they win nothing, get to a few finals and they're a great team.

I can't be having that, get to a final you're a decent team, win one you're a good team, win back to back you're a great team.

Couldnt agree more with you Max. To be fair you don't even need to be a decent team to get to the final, just get a nice side of the draw which has happened all three in the last 7/8 years

Haven't got the Irish News yet so what is it reporting about Watson missing the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 01, 2010, 11:59:33 AM
I have never, ever heard anyone saying Dunloy supporters had honour or style.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2010, 03:52:38 PM
I have always said that Dunloy are a great team, Cushendall have been a great team also, stop generalising over a comment i made about Loughgiel being a great team.

As far as I'm concerned Loughgiel have beaten Dunloy and Cushendall in many semi finals over the recent years, yes their balls have dropped while walking out of the tunnel of Casement. but they along with the other two big teams are quality.

who will win it? have tipped Loughgiel a couple of times, v Rossa and Dunloy one year!!! 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 01, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
i was standing beside a women from dunloy last sunday and she had neither honour or style. Her language towards the loughgiel management was atrocious. In a sport where i am proud to see that all spectators can mix together this was a disgrace. The woman should be banned for life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
'Loughgiel' management, do you not mean Babs one mercenary from st pausl and another from Lavey?  :D

Oh and PS
Does this final now put our esteemed county manager in a quandary?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
" i was standing beside a women from [INSERT YOUR RIVAL CLUB] last sunday and she had neither honour or style. Her language towards the [INSERT YOUR CLUB] management was atrocious. In a sport where i am proud to see that all spectators can mix together this was a disgrace. The woman should be banned for life.


All you handwringers out there should take a copy of this to save you typing in future.  >:(

As we all should know, up and down the land there are individuals who purport to "support" a team from where they live but you wouldn't see them attend anything other than a championship semi or final and show themselves and their parishes up for their own inadequacies as human beings. Only real diddies don't look closer to home before coming out with shite like that

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 02, 2010, 10:51:36 AM
Every club has element of their support that they are not proud of, and I include ourselves in that. Emotions get high in championship games and things come out. I've heard it from all clubs so no point getting into a blame game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on September 02, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
It is a disease brought from soccer and clubs most guilty of it tend to be full of soccer supporters paricularly the ones that follow the famous poppy wearing club Glasgow Celtic.
A policy of zero tolerance needs to be in place and believe it or not ex hurlers themselves who follow that soccer club can be disgusting too.
Club Commitees need to make examples of these people even during meaningless games to make the point we are gaels not soccer heads and are different and have a family positive culture in our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on September 02, 2010, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 02, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
It is a disease brought from soccer and clubs most guilty of it tend to be full of soccer supporters paricularly the ones that follow the famous poppy wearing club Glasgow Celtic.
A policy of zero tolerance needs to be in place and believe it or not ex hurlers themselves who follow that soccer club can be disgusting too.
Club Commitees need to make examples of these people even during meaningless games to make the point we are gaels not soccer heads and are different and have a family positive culture in our games.

This kind of view on how the clubs that are most guilty are the ones that are full of soccer fans is ironic, as the majority of members in every GAA club in Ireland follow 'soccer' and the same members would all support a team aswell.  I don't think this is something that has only happened over the past few years either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
" i was standing beside a women from [INSERT YOUR RIVAL CLUB] last sunday and she had neither honour or style. Her language towards the [INSERT YOUR CLUB] management was atrocious. In a sport where i am proud to see that all spectators can mix together this was a disgrace. The woman should be banned for life.


All you handwringers out there should take a copy of this to save you typing in future.  >:(

As we all should know, up and down the land there are individuals who purport to "support" a team from where they live but you wouldn't see them attend anything other than a championship semi or final and show themselves and their parishes up for their own inadequacies as human beings. Only real diddies don't look closer to home before coming out with shite like that

I was merely stating a fact - and not shite as you like to put it.   I agree that every club has this element, Dunloy are no worse or better than any club.

But what are we/clubs supposed to do about it?  Start banning these thugs from games (difficult to police I know) or bury or heads in the sand and pretend its not a problem because every club has them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
'Loughgiel' management, do you not mean Babs one mercenary from st pausl and another from Lavey?  :D

Oh and PS
Does this final now put our esteemed county manager in a quandary?

No, I mean Loughgiel Management.  What's your point?  :-\

Why does it put Dinny Cahill in a quandry?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 02, 2010, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
'Loughgiel' management, do you not mean Babs one mercenary from st pausl and another from Lavey?  :D

Oh and PS
Does this final now put our esteemed county manager in a quandary?

No, I mean Loughgiel Management.  What's your point?  :-\

Why does it put Dinny Cahill in a quandry?  ???

Dinny has been taking sessions with alot of club teams recently. There was no worry about quandries when he was also taking sessions for ballycastle so shouldnt be now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
" i was standing beside a women from [INSERT YOUR RIVAL CLUB] last sunday and she had neither honour or style. Her language towards the [INSERT YOUR CLUB] management was atrocious. In a sport where i am proud to see that all spectators can mix together this was a disgrace. The woman should be banned for life.


All you handwringers out there should take a copy of this to save you typing in future.  >:(

As we all should know, up and down the land there are individuals who purport to "support" a team from where they live but you wouldn't see them attend anything other than a championship semi or final and show themselves and their parishes up for their own inadequacies as human beings. Only real diddies don't look closer to home before coming out with shite like that

I was merely stating a fact - and not shite as you like to put it.   I agree that every club has this element, Dunloy are no worse or better than any club.

But what are we/clubs supposed to do about it?  Start banning these thugs from games (difficult to police I know) or bury or heads in the sand and pretend its not a problem because every club has them?

Comments (see bold text) you should have made in your original post if you didn't want it to look pointed (which it was). You've rounded those comments now in the last post so I'm happy enough with that. I like you have no real practical ideas as to how you deal with supporters who cross the line.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 02:52:18 PM
 Apology accepted :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 02, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
Hasnt been much talk about your man talking up missing the final with the 'bad knee'. The man thrives on publicity.

I laughed my pan off when he said he went for a scan on Monday. There must be a new scanning unit out the back of O Connor's.LOL. Never left it since after the match on Sunday I hear.

I'm sure the conversation with Marty Tabb was good...slured I would think. Wonder what the DC gaffer thought about that. Hurt playing another sport under contract and airlocked at the same time. LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 02, 2010, 10:49:29 PM
Seen that myself OTH.  Was at the fair Monday and Tuesday and both times seen himself outside O'Connor's like a washing machine.  He'd the presence of Shane McNaughton on the Monday too! Wonder will they both be as friendly in 3 weeks time? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2010, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 02, 2010, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
'Loughgiel' management, do you not mean Babs one mercenary from st pausl and another from Lavey?  :D

Oh and PS
Does this final now put our esteemed county manager in a quandary?

No, I mean Loughgiel Management.  What's your point?  :-\

Why does it put Dinny Cahill in a quandry?  ???

Dinny has been taking sessions with alot of club teams recently. There was no worry about quandries when he was also taking sessions for ballycastle so shouldnt be now

Is it only me or does anyone else not see a conflict of interest here? He coaches some club team coming up to SHC and not others?
What does that say to the players from the other clubs who are supposed to be part of his panle, this is the kind of nonsense I thought he had learned from the last time he was up here.
Seemingly not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
NAG this is a non issue if he is asked by clubs for his help and to take a session or two he will .Maybe cushendall management  haven't asked him for his help , if they did i'm sure he'd help them no problem.Cushendall maybe are lucky that their management doesn't need help , advice etc or just a different voice but if they asked i'm sure they'd have him ..
On what onthehill and just puck it were saying about the antics of players drinking , i feel this is more of an issue , We have a few like that but Cushendall seem to be infested with good timers we have the  county deserter who'd take it out of a sock , other pin up boys who are disiplined for all day sessions and more of them at it - this seems more of an issue for cushendall than others.Cushendall may have their gym boys etc  but really these guys are negative role models if they go out on drinking benders as they like in the middle of championship.But clubs having the foresight to get help in their teams prepararation is a non issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
NAG this is a non issue if he is asked by clubs for his help and to take a session or two he will .Maybe cushendall management  haven't asked him for his help , if they did i'm sure he'd help them no problem.Cushendall maybe are lucky that their management doesn't need help , advice etc or just a different voice but if they asked i'm sure they'd have him ..

Its a non issue to clubs who he has coached this year or in previous years, Cushendall being one of them Loughgiel being the other that springs to mind!
Wasnt that long ago that he was on the phone to a certain manager on the sideline during a county final.

Just stating IMO he should go round every club in the county or leave well alone and do the job he is up the road for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 03, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
On what onthehill and just puck it were saying about the antics of players drinking , i feel this is more of an issue , We have a few like that but Cushendall seem to be infested with good timers we have the  county deserter who'd take it out of a sock , other pin up boys who are disiplined for all day sessions and more of them at it - this seems more of an issue for cushendall than others.Cushendall may have their gym boys etc  but really these guys are negative role models if they go out on drinking benders as they like in the middle of championship.But clubs having the foresight to get help in their teams prepararation is a non issue.

I'm going to have to disagree.  Labelling one of our boys as 'the county deserter' isn't on.  That's done and dusted.  He was one of the best forwards the county had this year.  The rest of what your saying is complete and utter balderdash too!  The only issue I can see here is your obvious lack of grammatical ability! Although I'm glad that you managed to find the full stop on your keyboard eventually!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 03, 2010, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 03, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
On what onthehill and just puck it were saying about the antics of players drinking , i feel this is more of an issue , We have a few like that but Cushendall seem to be infested with good timers we have the  county deserter who'd take it out of a sock , other pin up boys who are disiplined for all day sessions and more of them at it - this seems more of an issue for cushendall than others.Cushendall may have their gym boys etc  but really these guys are negative role models if they go out on drinking benders as they like in the middle of championship.But clubs having the foresight to get help in their teams prepararation is a non issue.

I'm going to have to disagree.  Labelling one of our boys as 'the county deserter' isn't on.  That's done and dusted.  He was one of the best forwards the county had this year.  The rest of what your saying is complete and utter balderdash too!  The only issue I can see here is your obvious lack of grammatical ability! Although I'm glad that you managed to find the full stop on your keyboard eventually!

In bold should read you're - sorry, just had to point out your grammatical ability  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 03, 2010, 11:49:19 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 03, 2010, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 03, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
On what onthehill and just puck it were saying about the antics of players drinking , i feel this is more of an issue , We have a few like that but Cushendall seem to be infested with good timers we have the  county deserter who'd take it out of a sock , other pin up boys who are disiplined for all day sessions and more of them at it - this seems more of an issue for cushendall than others.Cushendall may have their gym boys etc  but really these guys are negative role models if they go out on drinking benders as they like in the middle of championship.But clubs having the foresight to get help in their teams prepararation is a non issue.

I'm going to have to disagree.  Labelling one of our boys as 'the county deserter' isn't on.  That's done and dusted.  He was one of the best forwards the county had this year.  The rest of what your saying is complete and utter balderdash too!  The only issue I can see here is your obvious lack of grammatical ability! Although I'm glad that you managed to find the full stop on your keyboard eventually!

In bold should read you're - sorry, just had to point out your grammatical ability  ;D

Fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 03, 2010, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: thehurler on September 03, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
NAG this is a non issue if he is asked by clubs for his help and to take a session or two he will .Maybe cushendall management  haven't asked him for his help , if they did i'm sure he'd help them no problem.Cushendall maybe are lucky that their management doesn't need help , advice etc or just a different voice but if they asked i'm sure they'd have him ..

Its a non issue to clubs who he has coached this year or in previous years, Cushendall being one of them Loughgiel being the other that springs to mind!
Wasnt that long ago that he was on the phone to a certain manager on the sideline during a county final.

Just stating IMO he should go round every club in the county or leave well alone and do the job he is up the road for.

NAG you stated in an earlier post that this would pose a quandary to the County Manager yet you confirm that he has coached both teams at certain times in the past.  I really dont see your point.  Has he refused to coach your club?  Has he even been asked? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2010, 11:51:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2010, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 02, 2010, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 02, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 02, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
'Loughgiel' management, do you not mean Babs one mercenary from st pausl and another from Lavey?  :D

Oh and PS
Does this final now put our esteemed county manager in a quandary?

No, I mean Loughgiel Management.  What's your point?  :-\

Why does it put Dinny Cahill in a quandry?  ???

Dinny has been taking sessions with alot of club teams recently. There was no worry about quandries when he was also taking sessions for ballycastle so shouldnt be now

Is it only me or does anyone else not see a conflict of interest here? He coaches some club team coming up to SHC and not others?
What does that say to the players from the other clubs who are supposed to be part of his panle, this is the kind of nonsense I thought he had learned from the last time he was up here.
Seemingly not

If he's still on the county's payroll (expenses) then I think its a good idea for clubs to avail of his services if required. Cahill does know his stuff and it'd be madness of the county board not to use his expertise as much as possible especially in area's which need that bit extra to get their standards up.

Has Cahill coached any junior or intermediate clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2010, 12:17:19 PM
Surely him coming into clubs is a "private" decision rather than one the county is "supporting"?

All very strange IMO. Does the man have no home to go home to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
My point exactly Skull

It is not a set programme by the county for him to improve 'Club' hurling across the board, so again IMO he should not be coaching anyone in the run up to the SHC. Is that not clear?

Dont get me wrong I am not neccessarily blaming the man as he probably wouldnt turn down any request my point is that it is not acceptable for a county manager to be coaching a club team in lead up to a senior competition. On any level.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 05, 2010, 10:06:18 PM
i think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I cant see the problem as long as he's giving both clubs the opportunity which according to you he has. I assume it will be general coaching he will be giving and not how to beat loughgiel or cushendall or how to exploit individual weaknesses. Does anyone know if he's given many coaching sessions to the 2 clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on September 05, 2010, 10:17:24 PM
NAG is just get frightened with all this and is just plain uncertain about his own team.Rightly so as all their main guys seem to do is Drink , Drink and more Drink .....  must be the best customers in the Cushendall bars...Cushendall think they are masters of peaking at the right time , absolute rubbish , their main players just dont care all they worry about is Drink , Drink..........I cannt wait until we destroy them ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2010, 08:14:30 AM
My last post on the issue this time around.

I assume it will be general coaching he will be giving and not how to beat loughgiel or cushendall or how to exploit individual weaknesses.

This is exactly what he was doing for two different clubs, totally wrong and out of order, but thats my opinion.

Anyway great match yesterday, shows you how much hunger counts when it comes to hurling. You can train and prepare and do tactics to the cows come home but at the end of the day it always comes down to hunger and desire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2010, 01:22:33 PM
If this is the case then I agree that it should not be happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 06, 2010, 03:08:11 PM
Who'll get the county final? I think that Herbie should get it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 06, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
I think Eamon Hasson should get it, very good referee in my opinion, as are Garrett Duffy & Owen Elliott.

hows' the injuries clearing up in both camps.  Its a lovely time of the year when you're preparing for a final and all other activities are closing down for the season.  feeling all melancholy here ::)

Cushendall have the best team imo, a superb forward unit this year, will they play shanebo at FF to cause the same mayhem he caused last year, will mcmanus move up front now Graffin is back or will Graffin be deployed on Winker Watson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
I saw the league between the pair earlier in the year, winker played in the corner on Mickey Monty and ran riot so I would expect a change of some description. But I would imagine that Graffin would go to centre half and McManus up front as they need a bit more in that department.

Will Loughgiel put NMcG back to centre forward or will he stay put.

Should actually be a big game if both teams play up to their potential, thing is Loughgiel can never seem to lift themselves against anyone else they way they do to play Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 06, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
MR2 - What happened with the sevens at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 07, 2010, 11:35:25 AM
Max, have to disagree with you re Hasson. Not detracting from him as a ref but I believe that the big ocassions in Antrim should be for Antrim men and not outsiders.

The relationship with Hasson suits everybody. Antrim hurling gets a ref, Rasharkin get somebody to fill in for them and it suits Hasson as he can ref games at a higher standard than the hurling in Derry, so, everybody wins.

When it comes to the final it should be our own people that we are promoting. Why should Antrim hurling promote a Derry ref? That's why I think Herbie should get the final but as I say this is not intended to take anything away from Hasson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
Some craic in loughgiel if Herbie gets it after the incidents at last years Feis  :D

Or maybe thats what your at Frankie  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 07, 2010, 01:31:58 PM
Who? Me?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 07, 2010, 03:07:37 PM
Remind me, what did happen at last years Feis? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 08, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
Heaneys wish I think you should remove that comment. Not an acceptable post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 08, 2010, 01:14:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 08, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
Heaneys wish I think you should remove that comment. Not an acceptable post

Cuz the county sec is from your club or is it just in general you don't agree with it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2010, 01:15:49 PM
Not the place for accusations such as that anyway regardless of who it is about or what it is concerning.
I would advise you take it off as well

On a hurling note I see the Tipp player who struck Thomas McCann got his yellow card upgraded. I thought it was a definite red at the time and if it had of been an Antrim player would have been no hesitation pulling it out.

IMO very cowardly then to go behind his back and suspend him for an All Ireland final. Not on for this type of retrospective banning, unless the ref completely missed the incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 08, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
I would say Frankie would still be classed by most as a LD man, but its not the place to be putting accusations like that no matter where he was from.

I'd say the ref Tony Carroll from Offaly was asked to look at it again by the referee assessor which would have been at the game. Met him a couple of times and thought Tony was a nice fella so not sure if he was being cowardly NAG. Just realised his mistake
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
Maybe a bit strong on reflection but my point stands that I dont agree with this retrospective punishment when ref has dealt with it at the time. It was a decision he made at the time and in the game that it was he thought it was a yellow, right or wrong but for that fella to miss an All Ireland final over the head IMO is very strong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 08, 2010, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
Maybe a bit strong on reflection but my point stands that I dont agree with this retrospective punishment when ref has dealt with it at the time. It was a decision he made at the time and in the game that it was he thought it was a yellow, right or wrong but for that fella to miss an All Ireland final over the head IMO is very strong.

From what I remember of the incident (trying to blank out that game generally!) McCann caught the ball, turned, sidestepped Coughlan who then caught McCann with his elbow through the faceguard and McCann had to go off for a time bleeding from the mouth.

At the time, I thought it was a definite red card offence and was pretty annoyed that he wasn't sent off.

I know many people are of the view that what the referee does about it at the time should be enough and incidents like this should not be subject to review.

My own view is that they should be open to review. If play constitutes serious foul play, it should be penalised -  a player shouldn't get "rewarded" for getting away with it.

The real problem here for me is that the review (or the decision based on the review) was only announced at the end of last week - it should take place in the week following the incident.

They are going a bit mad about it over on premierview!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 08, 2010, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
Some craic in loughgiel if Herbie gets it after the incidents at last years Feis  :D

Or maybe thats what your at Frankie  ;)
Your still at it - What about Herbie at this years Feis, from what I hear the Dall manager didn't have a good word on him after that.  Going back to last years Feis and all this nonsense about retrospective punishment - your having a laugh.
Practice what you preach in NA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2010, 08:27:01 AM
whats your point? Try reading it again and you might understand it then again I doubt that very much.

Did the people involved in the incident get punished? YES!

So I ask again what is your point!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 09, 2010, 12:47:38 PM
Your County Final is the biggest Hurling match of the year and should go to Referee's with the relevant experience, Hasson, Elliott or Duffy these lads have proved themselves on the big stage this year and have had good exposure, Elliott I believe is doing the All Ireland Intermediate camogie final at the weekend, seen him this year as well as the other lads, and before you say it Mathews is too heavy and not fit enough from what I seen at Dunloy not so long ago. Personally I would plum for Hasson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 09, 2010, 03:03:20 PM
Yeah I think Hasson would be a good choice. I'd heard that Elliott won't be refereeing any loughgiel matches in future after what happened in the aftermath of last years Feis in Glenarm !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 03:38:06 PM
Still maintain that we shouldn't give the the County Final to an outsider. Hasson is a Derry ref and he is only using us as we are using him but he shouldn't get the County Final. We should use it for our own people - Herbie is the man for the job. Duffy and Elliot have both done a final so, it's only fair that Herbie gets a crack at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2010, 03:53:31 PM
Lads at the end of the day it does not matter one jot who refs the final. The refs all know that it is a big day for the players so they will be going there to do their best and trying not to make any mistakes either road.

I believe that we have some very genuine refs at the minute and questioning them on here will not do any of them any good.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 04:17:56 PM
Thats a fair point NAG and well made. Accept what you have said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 09, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on September 08, 2010, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 08, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
I would say Frankie would still be classed by most as a LD man, but its not the place to be putting accusations like that no matter where he was from.

I'd say the ref Tony Carroll from Offaly was asked to look at it again by the referee assessor which would have been at the game. Met him a couple of times and thought Tony was a nice fella so not sure if he was being cowardly NAG. Just realised his mistake

I can see from that comment your weren't at the game and didn't get a program either, factual journalism always pays unlike your CS.

From G.A.A fixtures,

Bord Gáis Energy GAA Hurling All-Ireland Under 21 Championship
Semi-Finals


Tullamore 4.00pm    Tiobraid Árann v Aontroim
Referee: Tony Carroll (Uíbh Fhailí)
(E.T. if Necessary)

Tullamore 6.00pm    Gaillimh v Áth Cliath
Referee: Jason O'Mahoney (Luimneach)
(E.T. if Necessary)

So who did so it then Heaney's wish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 09, 2010, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 03:38:06 PM
Still maintain that we shouldn't give the the County Final to an outsider. Hasson is a Derry ref and he is only using us as we are using him but he shouldn't get the County Final. We should use it for our own people - Herbie is the man for the job. Duffy and Elliot have both done a final so, it's only fair that Herbie gets a crack at it.

Your are saying then that Antrim should work a rota system rather than who is the best man for the Job FF. Going by your logic then, done it once so PO? Tell me why Herbie is the man for the job other than you feel its his turn? He's a development referee at National level with limited experience, the other lads seemed to have at last learned when to blow and when to let it go, so you want to watch a county final that stops and starts etc etc! Then you will be bitching about how much the county have asked you to pay in, and how poor the game was etc etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
Take your point but it's like all walks of life - the only way you get the experience is by being given the chance to do it. Herbie is a brave bit younger than them other boys - Duffy's in his mid-forties as is Elliott - and as you said he's a development ref - how can he be allowed to develop if he doesn't get the opportunity. I believe that Herbie has potential and he should be given every encouragement. He's young, committed, fit. So, give him the opportunity and all the best to him.

NAG's point about the ref is true. It doesn't matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
To break away from all this talk of refs - what was the best county final in recent years?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 09, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
05, 06 and 08  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 05:04:59 PM
From a neutral perspective 06 was enjoyable - the year of the 2nd half come back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 09, 2010, 05:19:21 PM
As a spectacle 2003 was IMHO the best game, was a rip roaring game with Loughgiel goaling to take the lead with 20 minutes to go but with Dunloy dominating the last 10 mins to win by a point. the comeback of Cushendall was certainly stunning but bizarrely it wasn't a competitve match, loughgiel dominated the first half with Cushendall woeful, the reverse in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 05:21:44 PM
It was a great game. Was it Dick O'Kane who pointed from the free at the end of that game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 09, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
Take your point but it's like all walks of life - the only way you get the experience is by being given the chance to do it. Herbie is a brave bit younger than them other boys - Duffy's in his mid-forties as is Elliott - and as you said he's a development ref - how can he be allowed to develop if he doesn't get the opportunity. I believe that Herbie has potential and he should be given every encouragement. He's young, committed, fit. So, give him the opportunity and all the best to him.

NAG's point about the ref is true. It doesn't matter.


He has age on side, that's it! Let him show his potential at national if he has what your saying then surely they would have had him through already? Then he can do 1,2,3,4 county finals in the future when the older guard have gone. He hasn't proved it yet but yes he has plenty of time. I think the county should go with experience, loughguil need an experienced man if their going to break this spell ;D Young, Committed Fit, bar the young he has was Hasson, Duffy and Elliott have, Matthews as said has no fitness he's too overweight. So just because he's been around doesn't make him a good choice for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
To break away from all this talk of refs - what was the best county final in recent years?

the Rossa Dunloy Final was a cracker when Dunloy made the break through, loughgiels pitch, 90

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 09, 2010, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 09, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
To break away from all this talk of refs - what was the best county final in recent years?

the Rossa Dunloy Final was a cracker when Dunloy made the break through, loughgiels pitch, 90

Wasn't that the draw? Remember Tony McGrath scoring a great equalising point at the death for Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Superb match, was it the replay? thought the first match was at Casement!!! memory still jaded  8)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
Replay was in casement milltown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
Yes so it was, Loughgiel was bunged that day, had to park about a mile away. Do you think had you lost that match you would have had such a run?

What year were youse playing Intermediate at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
I have no clue

Can mind us getting beat by St Pauls in the championship (at home) in 86  ...remember the grey weather suiting the mood that evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
was it as late as 89? remember being 17 playing Dunloy in a championship match!!

played ya's in the Minor Football Championship on a shite night at your pitch 88, i was only 16 at the time. won by a point, great team ya had too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 10, 2010, 08:45:29 AM
MR I see that after your campaign a couple of years back in relation to the Irish News calling their  awards the GAA awards that they have changed the name and call themselves the All Star awards. Just noticed that this morning because when you wrote into the Irish News that year your point struck a chord with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
was it as late as 89? remember being 17 playing Dunloy in a championship match!!

Wasn't 89. Loughgiel (plus cloot) beat us in the senior semi final down in Cushendall about two/three weeks after the AIF

I'd guess 87
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2010, 09:12:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
was it as late as 89? remember being 17 playing Dunloy in a championship match!!

Wasn't 89. Cloot (plus Loughgiel) beat us in the senior semi final down in Cushendall about two/three weeks after the AIF

I'd guess 87

Corrected that for you Skull
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 10, 2010, 04:04:55 PM
I believe that was the day Paddy Carey from loughgiel beat Dunloy on his own !!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2010, 04:37:36 PM
Thats because we had 3 men on cloot  :P

Paddy hurled well that season from what I mind.......can remember wee gusty doing a bit of damage that day as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 10, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
Busy weekend for St Gall's going by the fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 11, 2010, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
was it as late as 89? remember being 17 playing Dunloy in a championship match!!

Wasn't 89. Loughgiel (plus cloot) beat us in the senior semi final down in Cushendall about two/three weeks after the AIF

I'd guess 87
I am pretty sure 87 was the year Dunloy beat Armoy in Armoy with a last minute goal in the first round of the championship. Dominic McMullan and Paddy Watson got sent off for boxing late on. It is the nearest I can remember to Armoy taking a decent scalp in the senior championship although apparantly we were useful in the seventies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 11, 2010, 09:03:08 PM
Minor B Hurling Final Result;
Rasharkin  1-12 Creggan 1-12 (Draw)

Minor A Hurling Final Result
Cushendall 1-11  St Johns 0-13

'Dall managed to scrape past the Johnnies - fair dues as that was supposed to be a strong minor team they had.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 11, 2010, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 11, 2010, 09:03:08 PM
Minor B Hurling Final Result;
Rasharkin  1-12 Creggan 1-12 (Draw)

Minor A Hurling Final Result
Cushendall 1-11  St Johns 0-13

'Dall managed to scrape past the Johnnies - fair dues as that was supposed to be a strong minor team they had.

I was very disappointed with the Johnnies. I thought they were gonna be better than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 11, 2010, 09:46:29 PM
Not the greatest cushendall team but fair play to them. Won the league, darragh cup and championship undefeated all year.  Credit due our boys I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2010, 11:37:20 PM
Yes big credit to the dall. I've managed teams against st johns and they were quality. so big result. hard work must have been the key here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 12, 2010, 12:06:32 PM
Happy for John Smokey an his management team. You wouldn't meet a better clubman. All the sweeter for him knowing there were people in Cdall thought his management team wasn't up to it. Some of the minor squad thought the same. So well done Smokey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
Div 2 for our boys next year  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: slow corner back on September 12, 2010, 07:27:50 PM
You have to hand it to the fixtures committee this year, mid sptember and most of the leagues sorted. Must be 90% of games completed which is not normally the case at this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 12, 2010, 07:40:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 12, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
Div 2 for our boys next year  :'(

And Div 1 again the following year  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2010, 11:17:28 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 12, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
Div 2 for our boys next year  :'(

no quite just yet.

We've still Ballycastle to visit and I'll not consider us safe unless we get a result there.

Plus who knows what sort of a team Dunloy would put out against you  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Do we have anymore league fixtures left? i thought we just had to play Loughgiel and the Dall, two games unlikely to be played now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2010, 11:43:25 AM
Is the ulster league still not to play Max?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2010, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Do we have anymore league fixtures left? i thought we just had to play Loughgiel and the Dall, two games unlikely to be played now

Youse definetly have to play us, and it is our final game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2010, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Do we have anymore league fixtures left? i thought we just had to play Loughgiel and the Dall, two games unlikely to be played now

And you've also another run down to Ballycran??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
Ballycran must have been awarded the points for that game, see we're minus 1 in the league tables, yes play Portaferry at Casement on Wednesday night.

What way does the league stand at the bottom, can Glenarriffe stay up by beating us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 13, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
Max, is your game with Portaferry the Ulster League final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2010, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
Ballycran must have been awarded the points for that game, see we're minus 1 in the league tables,

What happened there as you had the game called off due to intermediate football championship??

Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
yes play Portaferry at Casement on Wednesday night.

That must be the other semi-final with the winners to play Loughgeil

Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
What way does the league stand at the bottom, can Glenarriffe stay up by beating us

If Glenarriffe beat you then yes they're safe and that'd leave us to battle it out with Ballycastle in the last game for both of us to decide who's bottom. A draw wouldn't be good enough for us due to the points difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 01:23:29 PM
Ballycran must have been awarded the points for that game, see we're minus 1 in the league tables, yes play Portaferry at Casement on Wednesday night.


I see that Max. As long as they're being consistent then you couldn't argue with the Counties decision. Hard but fair you would think. And we need look no further to our near neighbours to learn lessons for the future. The county must be very proud of how they are showing the way it can be done....see below

Tuesday 17th August 2010
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballycran    0-14   0-14   Loughgiel    Ballycran   Round 11

Sunday 22nd August 2010
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballycran    -   -   Dunloy    Ballycran   Conceded by Dunloy

Fair play to Loughgiel for being able to travel to Ballycran on a Tuesday night whereas Dunloy couldn't even field the following Sunday (never mind they had a football championship the following evening with 8/9 players involved). Ballycran must have done well to get a draw from this game ....has anyone any match reports of this game? I'm sure the gate for Ballycran wasn't as big as it could have been (what with it being a Tuesday night and all)? Regardless, a point each must have been well deserved wouldn't you say?

What makes this feat of Loughgiels (and Ballycran as well) even more amazing/unbelieveable is that they also played the UHL semi final on the same night which went to extra time
Tuesday 17th Aug 2010
Ulster Hurling League Division 1 Playoffs    Semi Final    7 15 PM       Loch gCaol Seamroga/Loughgiel Shamrocks    1-21    v    Ballycran    1-16    

I presume both teams had to travel to a neutral venue to play the UHL semi either before or after the league game was played. Either way it was an amazing accomplishment (some would say impossible but its down as a result so it must be true). It would be an absolute disgrace if there wasn't tea and sandwiches after the games were over. If there wasn't I'd be kicking up an absolute stink!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 13, 2010, 03:33:22 PM
Very interesting Skull.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2010, 03:46:08 PM
Very magnamous of Ballycran to give up a home game and gate to Loughgiel and play the double dunter somewhere in Belfast I think it was played.

Was there any rules broken though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 13, 2010, 03:57:53 PM
It would appear that both teams agreed to play the game as a double header. 

As JC states, were any rules broken? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2010, 04:01:08 PM
As far as I am aware the Fixtures committee wouldnt allow other teams to do this at different points during the year, so I am wondering how this slipped through the net.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
I have no clue if "the rules" have been broken (whatever they are). I'd like to understand what "the rules" are in terms of match fixtures. Is there a link on the County website that would clear this up?

Being an easy going sort, I'd have no problems with that myself if the clubs were up against fixtures conjestion and agreed to do this just in the same way I'd be as understanding that a team couldn't field for a hurling match if they had a championship football match the following evening and were looking the game postponed. Bear in mind the fball champ match had to be refixed from the Saturday to the Monday night because we had players representing the county in the U21 semi final on the Sat.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 13, 2010, 06:02:38 PM
match versus Portaferry is Ulster League semi final with winners to play Loughgiel

Like skull i'm very surprised at this stage of the season we're the only team to have tried to rearrange a match, or that matches haven't been rearranged for less worthwhile reasons. We probaly can't win the league anyhow but the fine is significant in these times

is there a cut off date for the remaining fixtures to be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2010, 09:09:19 PM
Its not uncommon for games to 'double up' near the end of the season, and i believe its sometimes a good smart call by the clubs.

As a dual club we have always ran in to fixture congestion nearing the end of the year thats the price we have paid for being in the latter stages of the Antrim football Championship. But getting the county to help clubs (well ours) in these situations is near impossible.

I am sure this was all above board. Sunday the 23rd October i think is the last Sunday for games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 13, 2010, 10:24:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2010, 04:55:09 PM
I have no clue if "the rules" have been broken (whatever they are). I'd like to understand what "the rules" are in terms of match fixtures. Is there a link on the County website that would clear this up?

Being an easy going sort, I'd have no problems with that myself if the clubs were up against fixtures conjestion and agreed to do this just in the same way I'd be as understanding that a team couldn't field for a hurling match if they had a championship football match the following evening and were looking the game postponed. Bear in mind the fball champ match had to be refixed from the Saturday to the Monday night because we had players representing the county in the U21 semi final on the Sat.

Might be worth posing the question in the forum of the County Website ;) God knows what kind of drivel you'd get back from the moderator ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2010, 10:49:53 PM
 :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 14, 2010, 01:41:46 AM
new to this website, yes the two teams agreed to play it on a Tues night, think the shamrocks was happy enough of a tough game against ballygran in build up to championship, hopefully be playing them in a ulster championship;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
Totally missed the point!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 14, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Right lads who's been 'peddling idiotic conspiracy theories for gormless, gullible clowns who happily suck it all in' ??  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2010, 11:16:24 AM
I would have posted it if I'd have wanted to. I didn't

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 14, 2010, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 14, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Right lads who's been 'peddling idiotic conspiracy theories for gormless, gullible clowns who happily suck it all in' ??  :D

LOL. Just read the official site   ;D and although I suggested it I certainly didn't post it.

By the way, the Ballycran v Loughgiel game was played at St Paul's - FACT  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 14, 2010, 02:29:00 PM

Went over to Greenlough for the Derry football semi, fantastic nights entertainment. Was £4 in, £2 for OAP, you have to wonder why our games are twice the price
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2010, 02:47:40 PM
Twice the quality max
or is it half the crowd?  ???

Total disgrace the price at the gates for the championship matches this year, dont know what they are thinking with the pricing scheme.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 14, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
The crowd in Greenlough was huge, though the pavillon takes a fair bit of spectator space away in comparison to Ballycastle but definately more there

it might sound petty enough, but for a couple to watch both semi finals in Antrim would cost £32, i think the GAA should really have taken the lead in terms of ticket prices during this recession and shown itself to be an organisation of the people, there will still be plenty of years ahead to make plenty of money
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2010, 03:41:22 PM
Madness pricing really. Following our club these last 10 years has cost us a fortune. Dunloy supporters can relate to that, with Ulster Club football though we are all over (more rounds) were as the Hurling is mainly always at Casement. So we would have slightly more expense.

Can we complain? no hope it continues for another ten years :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 14, 2010, 03:46:12 PM
anyone any idea what the draw is for Ulster Championship is, and when the games are? Will winners next weekend have as much of a break between games as there was between antrim semi and finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
Was pretty hot on the heels of the county final last year if Im thinking right, the following week I think.

Dont know what the panic is when the lights are there now anyway.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 14, 2010, 04:00:18 PM
Down semi-final on sunday past was a reasonable £5 in. Hopefully the final will be of a similar vein.

Wait till you see what the Ulster council charge in October!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM
Colonel, listed in the Admin site of our county website. Master fixtures section. Tut tut.

The boadies (sp) will have a break of two weeks...

Sunday   Oct   10   UCSH Antrim V Down
"   "   "   UCIH Antrim V Monaghan / Fermanagh
         UCJH Cavan / Antrim v Dow/Tyr/Don

Sunday   Oct   24   UCSH Final
"   "   "   UCIH Final
"   "   "   UCJH Final


Speaking of the boadies - any word on Watson?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 14, 2010, 09:43:45 PM
Cheers Glensman, searched Ulster site but the club hurling fixtures were the only one not on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 14, 2010, 11:36:05 PM
yes the boadies you say, lol  as use are the brockys, watson will be starting at number 15 in county final 2010, fact!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 15, 2010, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM
Colonel, listed in the Admin site of our county website. Master fixtures section. Tut tut.

The boadies (sp) will have a break of two weeks...

Sunday   Oct   10   UCSH Antrim V Down
"   "   "   UCIH Antrim V Monaghan / Fermanagh
         UCJH Cavan / Antrim v Dow/Tyr/Don

Sunday   Oct   24   UCSH Final
"   "   "   UCIH Final
"   "   "   UCJH Final


Speaking of the boadies - any word on Watson?

What about the Derry Champions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 15, 2010, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 15, 2010, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM
Colonel, listed in the Admin site of our county website. Master fixtures section. Tut tut.

The boadies (sp) will have a break of two weeks...

Sunday   Oct   10   UCSH Antrim V Down
"   "   "   UCIH Antrim V Monaghan / Fermanagh
         UCJH Cavan / Antrim v Dow/Tyr/Don

Sunday   Oct   24   UCSH Final
"   "   "   UCIH Final
"   "   "   UCJH Final


Speaking of the boadies - any word on Watson?

What about the Derry Champions?

I'd say they get into the final automatically? Its only those three that compete at senior level isn't it?

What other counties compete?
Do Donegal champions go into intermediate? I beleive they have two levels there so would assume senior goes into intermediate...and the lower grade to junior.
Where do Tyrone champions go?
Are Antrim and Down the only counties with the Senior, Intermediate and Junior levels?


Who are the brockys?!?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on September 15, 2010, 11:00:21 AM
Near sure the Donegal Champions will go to Junior and the Tyrone Champions will go to Intermediate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: horse it in to her on September 15, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
i here Ray( not so slim ) Matthews has got the job of refreeing the hurling final ,after the way he look after the semi i am shocked he got it ,what happen to someone like herbie or skinny getting a chance or the best ref of the lot Hasson even if he is a derry man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 15, 2010, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 15, 2010, 10:52:48 AM


I'd say they get into the final automatically? Its only those three that compete at senior level isn't it?


I think if Keady won the Armagh championship, which they did then they'll end up playing Lavey in the Ulster club senior championship so expect as hastily arranged semi-final along side the Antrim vrs Down semi-final in a neutral venue somewhere.

If Cuchullians had of won in Armagh they were going into the intermediate grade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 15, 2010, 12:52:54 PM
Johnnycool is correct. Keady are a decent side who ran Ballygalget close a couple of years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2010, 01:39:32 PM
They have gone back in recent years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 15, 2010, 03:32:53 PM
Herbie was knocked out of the running cos somebody in his family stole sheep in Loughgile one night about three hundred years ago and the County Board thought that this made him too close to Loughgile.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on September 15, 2010, 11:40:04 PM
Heaney's wish

Jaysus you talk some shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2010, 11:47:53 PM
whos the brockys???  thats would be c,dall, just been called it as past 10 years ;D   think either way,no matter what ref got final,it wouldnt of suited someone, ray isnt the worst actually, should do decent job and let the game go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2010, 06:48:23 AM
No need for that!

Publically slanging a man about his weight through an anonymous site is hardly fair. Especially referees who give up plenty, and take plenty of abuse on the field, to allow us to enjoy our games.

Not sure what your on about him hating Loughgiel, I never seen anything to evidence that, indeed possibly the very opposite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 16, 2010, 09:23:13 AM
The attacks on Ray are out of order and getting tiresome.

Dunloy beat Portaferry by 4 in the Ulster league semi final last night. Very poor first half with both teams looking like they didn't want to be there. 2 soft goals had Dunloy ahead at half time and the game improved when Portaferry pulled level. Not a great night for hurling - heavy showers and a strong cross field wind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
HW is obviously a referee himself. Poor judgement to come on here use the tone & language that he has used. I wonder is that poor judgement as apparent when he's a whistle in his gub?

BTW I can't say I don't share similar concerns (without the bile) about the way he referees games now (as opposed to his first couple of years when I though he was the best in the county).  I hope he has a great final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on September 16, 2010, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 15, 2010, 11:39:38 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on September 15, 2010, 08:47:51 PM
Quote from: horse it in to her on September 15, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
i here Ray( not so slim ) Matthews has got the job of refereeing the hurling final ,after the way he look after the semi i am shocked he got it ,what happen to someone like Herbie or skinny getting a chance or the best ref of the lot Hasson even if he is a Derry man
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 15, 2010, 03:32:53 PM
Herbie was knocked out of the running cos somebody in his family stole sheep in Loughgile one night about three hundred years ago and the County Board thought that this made him too close to Loughgile.


Did enough arse licking I'm reliably informed to get it, something about its his last year! I hear he's going on Ireland's biggest loser next "Too Loose 30lb". Definitely the wrong choice he's physically not up to the job from what I witnessed at the semi in Dunloy. I would have gone for Hassan, Elliott did a great job in the AI Final on Sunday in croker to be fair. Who ever appoints these guys needs to be taken out and put up against a wall, I'm told he hates loughguile especially the" special one", who plays the foreign game. Can't wait for this one, note pad at the ready, must give Jerome a call to catch everthing including his waist line. ;D

Can't believe he's got it.  Any game he's refereed in the last 4-5 years its all about Me Me Me.  I'm the most important person on this pitch, look at me.

To be honest, its hard to remember most referees that have been in the middle for games I've been involved in over the years, but there is two that stand out for me.

One is Gerard Devlin from Armagh, he would nearly blow you up for striking the ball and the one thing that iritates me more than anything else is a referee that you cannot even say a word to.  A good referee should be able to communicate and if asked something genuinely rthen they should answer with a bit of respect.  He is the type of referee that if he blows you up for a foul and you ask him why then he will move the ball forward in a frenzied stomp.  There should be no problem with a player asking why he was blown up to give the player the opportunity to avoid committing the same foul again.

As for Mathews, he is the only referee that I have came across who does not seem to hide his egotistical side.  The incident that sticks out in my mind happened about 4 years ago when a player from the opposite team was standing in front of me waving his arms and hurl when I was going to hit a free.  I didn't have a problem with that as it was going to go over anyway  ;) but Matthews told him to stop it and keep his hands down.  The player stated that he didn't think he had done anything wrong, and RM responded by saying he had and his exact line then was 'Consider yourself educated'.  But the one thing I would say about RM is that any time he has been in charge of any game I have played he has been very good and fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 16, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
Lads, what's the craic with the attacks on Ray Matthews? Any wonder we can't get people to referee our games? Why on earth would anybody want to do anything within the GAA if they are to become the subject of this sort of very personal abuse?

This fella gives up his time and volunteers to serve us by facilitating the playing of our games and what does he get in return? The back ripped out of him. Uncalled for and very unfair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 16, 2010, 11:29:30 AM
As nrico said there are two types of Ref's and I have never had any problem with Ray, he'll take a bit and give a bit, but not in a spiteful way. If he is fit enough for the task then fair play. Too many refs won't let anyone speak to them and I generally feel these can be the worst
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2010, 11:45:34 AM
I remember playing Gort Na Mona about 15 years ago in the Falls Park and there was a ref fron Belfast that I had never seem before or since,he was about 40 with glasses, one of our players "questioned" a decision and his reply was "go f**k yourself you p***k, I don't have to tell you nathin". I thought he would go far..............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Been told to fu*k off myself in the not too distant past by a top referee, problem was i asked him to explain a decision, ie how can someone
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 16, 2010, 09:23:13 AM
The attacks on Ray are out of order and getting tiresome.

Dunloy beat Portaferry by 4 in the Ulster league semi final last night. Very poor first half with both teams looking like they didn't want to be there. 2 soft goals had Dunloy ahead at half time and the game improved when Portaferry pulled level. Not a great night for hurling - heavy showers and a strong cross field wind.
be booked for a slap with the hurl off the ball.

Probaly was two teams still feeling sorry for themselves, Jaysus we hit some fierce wides again last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 16, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
Lads, this thread is getting a bit out of hand. It is unacceptable to be making cowardly statements about a real person, who does not have the opportunity to answer you back. That sort of poison pen nonsense is not on, especially from anonymous posters.

Please refrain from making personal comments about anyone, players, officials or users, or else bans will be handed out. If the thread does not improve after that, it will be closed.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 16, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
HW is obviously a referee himself. Poor judgement to come on here use the tone & language that he has used. I wonder is that poor judgement as apparent when he's a whistle in his gub?

BTW I can't say I don't share similar concerns (without the bile) about the way he referees games now (as opposed to his first couple of years when I though he was the best in the county).  I hope he has a great final

Ah Skull its my job, I have to make a living somehow! OK I would be close to a number of referees and have never had the knackers to do it myself, however this particular appointment has caused serious bad feeling among a lot of your local lads, and their are concerns among his piers to say the least. I will however desist from the topic with immediate effect. Apologies to all concerned, but this is the life of a media mogul!!!! Good luck to the shamrocks...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 16, 2010, 02:28:18 PM
"their are concerns among his piers to say the least."   :D :D :D

What a stupid pirck!!   :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2010, 01:34:43 PM
Fcuk off ref!

I'm not having that ..........10 yards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 16, 2010, 03:44:52 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 16, 2010, 02:28:18 PM
"their are concerns among his piers to say the least."   :D :D :D

What a stupid pirck!!   :D :D :D :D

These sort of attacks are NAUT(ical) on HW.  Leave the fishing community out of this!  Mind you, it's nice to know that the boys on the piers have more to talk about than overfishing and falling prices in Killybegs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thehurler on September 16, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
Match is nearing and all things seem in place .As Tipp said years ago The Famine is Over , our battle cry will be the same.Cushendall at the minute aren't on the same page , I hear Monday coming is their cut off from going off the drink - 6 days before the game - some record that is.
Our boys are very much up for the game and our preparations going great , a good game last week and the boys are really ready to take the cup home and I believe we will.
Cushendall seem too concerned with us at the minute to have any chance !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 16, 2010, 06:56:56 PM
9       GAA Discussion / Local GAA Discussion / Re: Antrim Football Thread       on: September 13, 2010, 09:14:06 AM
From a neutral perspective I thought Gregory was pish poor. It was almost as if he was afraid of a game of football breaking out. He was inconsistent in awarding St Galls some very soft frees in scoring positions which they squandered.

St Galls were in 2nd gear throughout but they never seemed as if they were able to deliver a killer blow, even with the extra man. I think that we still can see a lot more from St Galls but I wonder if their hunger has gone after winning the AI last year?

Quote from: funtime frankie on September 16, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
Lads, what's the craic with the attacks on Ray Matthews? Any wonder we can't get people to referee our games? Why on earth would anybody want to do anything within the GAA if they are to become the subject of this sort of very personal abuse?

This fella gives up his time and volunteers to serve us by facilitating the playing of our games and what does he get in return? The back ripped out of him. Uncalled for and very unfair.


Looking at your comments on GW(Reiteoir) in the football tread, looks like pot/kettle scenario, be consistent at least, would love to get your comments back in the native tongue, very rarely you find it these days, at least we share a common interest. The  I promised that I wouldn't engage in this again, so that's the end of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2010, 07:17:32 PM
Ray is a good ref. not too many refs on this board so until you try it at a decent level then keep quiet. Herbie done our game last night and was grand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
There is a serious difference in stating a referee had a poor game that ridiculing him based on weight or personality.

I sometimes wonder with these new poster appearing periodically to spout nonsense - could it be someone, somewhere (insert roll eyes) looking to close this thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2010, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 16, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
There is a serious difference in stating a referee had a poor game that ridiculing him based on weight or personality.

I sometimes wonder with these new poster appearing periodically to spout nonsense - could it be someone, somewhere (insert roll eyes) looking to close this thread.

I have thought that for a long time Max. I would say the Agent provocateurs broadband connection could be traced to Andytown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2010, 11:02:31 PM
Minder we know who it is, no need to give them space
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2010, 11:29:31 PM
as a loughgiel man i am more than happy ray got final, heard lot of complaints about him not keeping up with play in semi, as far as am concerned he is only man for job, players sud get on with ref and any time ive played, ray knew all players names and made effort to let the game go, ie.'put the handbags away lads' and so on. and i agree anyone who is giving out about him is prob already out of chamionship!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 17, 2010, 08:42:22 AM
HW - I stand by my comments re the football semi-final. Yes I did think Gregory was pish poor. So what? Nothing personal in that.

Now contrast those comments against your very personal attack on Ray. So, I fail to see how its a pot kettle black scenario.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 17, 2010, 08:51:00 AM
Heaney's Wish, if you cannot see the difference between commenting on someones performance, versus commenting on them as individuals or their personality/appearance, then I'm afraid I can't help you out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Heaneys Wish on September 17, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on September 17, 2010, 08:51:00 AM
Heaney's Wish, if you cannot see the difference between commenting on someones performance, versus commenting on them as individuals or their personality/appearance, then I'm afraid I can't help you out.

Apologies mod3, it won't happen again. I will stick to highlighting performances of a poor nature only (In my opinion of course!), after all that's what I get the big bucks for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 17, 2010, 01:31:53 PM
Looking at the remaining fixtures in this years Senior Hurling League I note that Dunloy still have to play Loughgiel, Cushendall and Glenariffe.  The Loughgiel, Cushendall and the Ballycran game where Dunloy didn't field would probably be 3 of Dunloy's toughest games of the season.  Could the lack of competitive games for Dunloy have been a contributing factor in Dunloy's poor performance in the Championship this year ??  Skull/Max what do you think? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
Ballygalget    Ballycastle    Ballygalget   18/09/2010   15:00   Ray Matthews   Round 11   
Dunloy            Glenariffe    Dunloy           18/09/2010   17:30   Declan Magee   Round 13


Relegation issue to be resolved tomorrow then!


we'll need to play better than we did last Sunday to get the win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 17, 2010, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 17, 2010, 01:31:53 PM
Looking at the remaining fixtures in this years Senior Hurling League I note that Dunloy still have to play Loughgiel, Cushendall and Glenariffe.  The Loughgiel, Cushendall and the Ballycran game where Dunloy didn't field would probably be 3 of Dunloy's toughest games of the season.  Could the lack of competitive games for Dunloy have been a contributing factor in Dunloy's poor performance in the Championship this year ??  Skull/Max what do you think? ???

No different than any other year pdiddy, not entirely sure but i'd hazard a guess that Cushendall haven't played Dunloy (in Dunloy) twice in the last 7/8 years.  We do normally have a few games against Loughgiel mind and they are always good for sharpening skills.

I don't think there is a genuine excuse, we just fell apart on the day.

Play Glenarriffe tomorrow, was pleased we fielded full strength on wednesday and so only fair to Ballycastle and Ballygalget to give it a go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
MASSIVE win for us today against Dunloy. According to table Ballycastle are on 9pts with all games played and we are on 10pts with all games played.....................

Town are down.


Or are they..........?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2010, 07:30:07 PM
I thought it was the toon are doon?

We were not good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 18, 2010, 07:53:20 PM
A good win by our lads in crap conditions. I will just say that the ref did his best for ballycastle but it wasn't enough. Any bets on dessie formulating a proposal for the antrim convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 18, 2010, 07:54:26 PM
I think they'll have their medicine this time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2010, 08:16:51 PM
Why do you think that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2010, 08:20:40 PM
I would be astounded if they went down without at least attempting a bit of horse trading.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 18, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
Can't see them getting away with changing league structures when it has been one of the most succesful leagues in years for getting the games played. A year in Div 2 might do Ballycastle no harm, but its getting back out of Div 2 which is the tough thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 18, 2010, 08:39:17 PM
Don't think there'll be any tolerance for horse-trading this year considering how well the leagues have run (apart from the 9 team Div 2).  Have heard a rumour already of a possible proposal for 10 team Div 1 - ie Town stay up and are joined by Johnnies & Rossa!  Can't see it coming to pass.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 18, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
Cant comment on the performances, or lack of, as i wasn't at any of the 2 matches but shocked by the Glenariffe Dunloy result. When was the last time Glenariffe beat Dunloy in a senior league or championship match? Anyhow Ballycastle will just have to do what St Johns look like they are going to do and bouce straight back up next year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 18, 2010, 10:35:22 PM
You suggesting something suspect fairhead? I would put it as a case of Dunloy not wanting to fulfil the fixture and glenariffe doing everything possible to win. Was there not 2 teams going up from division 3 or no one relegated from 2, which would make it a 10 team league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2010, 11:09:55 PM
I'll not be surprised should something change ::)

We are snookered at the minute in Div 2. need to win our remaining three games but should we lose then we will take our medicine, and drop to Div 3

maybe enter the Junior Championship ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2010, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 18, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
Cant comment on the performances, or lack of, as i wasn't at any of the 2 matches but shocked by the Glenariffe Dunloy result. When was the last time Glenariffe beat Dunloy in a senior league or championship match? Anyhow Ballycastle will just have to do what St Johns look like they are going to do and bouce straight back up next year.

Dunloy had nothing to play for, we had everything to play for and have been doing a bit of training. Allied to the fact it was a brutal day for hurling I dont think it was that big a shock. I would say Dunloy packed it in after the Loughgile match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
Minder, the best team always wins on the day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 19, 2010, 10:15:42 AM
Ballycastle have no one to blame but themselves for getting relegated, Dunloy where brutal bad yesterday but played the game to win it.

On wednesday night we beat possibly the only other team in Ulster feeling more sorry for themselves than us, and even doing so were brutal bad.  yesterday was played in a bog of a field (unplayable in my opinion), in driving rain at times, against a high motivated, agressive (often too much) team, not much of a shock they won.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 19, 2010, 10:15:42 AM
Ballycastle have no one to blame but themselves for getting relegated, Dunloy where brutal bad yesterday but played the game to win it.

On wednesday night we beat possibly the only other team in Ulster feeling more sorry for themselves than us, and even doing so were brutal bad.  yesterday was played in a bog of a field (unplayable in my opinion), in driving rain at times, against a high motivated, agressive (often too much) team, not much of a shock they won.

Glenariffe dirty??? Minder will be on Max!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
It is a bit unfair on teams at this stage because some teams are just fulfilling fixtures and they have no other reason to play or be competitive.

IMO it is a bit of a disgrace that Ballycastle find themselves in the position that they are in, way too strong to be heading down but I guess that the way it goes, when are they going to get properly organised and get back on their feet and start competing properly again.

On another note standard has been poor across the board this year, would need to be a good final to make up for this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 12:57:48 PM
But are they too strong for Div 2? If they are not good enough for Div 1 then there is only one place for them to go. Results don't lie, and if they were good enough for Div 1 then they wouldn't have themselves to blame for the poistion they are in. I think this league structure needs to stay and hopefully the format will make division 2 stronger with some good teams in there. Who has won division 2 by the way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 20, 2010, 01:29:48 PM
Still a few games outstanding in DIV 2 but after Rossa being beaten last week it looks as if the Johnnies have it - but there are still games to play.

I agree with the comments being made that the league structures should not be changed. Despite the reluctance of some clubs the amount of games played this year has been much better than before, so, I's day that if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Maybe some of the Rossa boys could help me out, but in an attempt to save themselves from going into DIV 2 - I think it was football - the chairman of Rossa at the time brought the matter before county committee and managed to get themkept up in Div 1. So there is a recent precedent but hopefully Ballycastle will see it as an opportunity to regroup because they are too strong for Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2010, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
It is a bit unfair on teams at this stage because some teams are just fulfilling fixtures and they have no other reason to play or be competitive.

IMO it is a bit of a disgrace that Ballycastle find themselves in the position that they are in, way too strong to be heading down but I guess that the way it goes, when are they going to get properly organised and get back on their feet and start competing properly again.

On another note standard has been poor across the board this year, would need to be a good final to make up for this season.

Would you be saying the same if either ourselves or Glenariffe had got relegated?

I would have thought a wet shitty day would have suited Ballycastle's bigger team than our lads, but they don't have any forwards at all. Out of their 1-4, I'd say one point was from play and the goal was scored by Pinkie when they pushed him up the field, Cosie huffed and puffed but hasn't the stickwork to be a real threat. Ciaran Clarke didn't feature at all in the game. Young Donnelly, Matthew I think it is tried to rile magic before the ball was thrown in, digging in the back and tripping etc, etc, but Magic put an abrupt end to that by hitting him a dig in the guts with the hurl. That was the end of that. Strangely enough we put our smallest man on Cormac Donnelly who was full back and we'd enough wit to play low balls down into him and he gave him a torrid enough afternoon. The big lad isn't the greatest at turning but is a good man for eating up the ball straight in front of him.
Unless they can unearth some scoring forwards then I can't see them progressing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 20, 2010, 01:44:40 PM
JC that was a hell of a fight your boys put in to stay up. All big games that needed a result. Question is why couldnt you do it the rest of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2010, 01:46:02 PM
JC
Wasnt my point to say they shouldnt go down, I am just looking at them and of the 3 teams yourselves Glenariffe and the town, I would say there would be more talent in the town IMO. My point is that they havent got themselves sorted out to harness and improve this talent.

If they are relegated then they are relegated hate this horse trading bullshit that happens at the end of every year.

Agree the only way to play hippy is to put someone on him with legs and let the ball in low, has serious struggles with that type of player and ball. Play the ball in high and he will eat it up all day long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2010, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on September 20, 2010, 01:44:40 PM
JC that was a hell of a fight your boys put in to stay up. All big games that needed a result. Question is why couldnt you do it the rest of the season

It's probably down to the management wanting to peak later on in the year, where there's normally a basic enough level of fitness done in Feb/March then with the Ulster league, early days of the Antrim league, Down leagues etc, it's all stick work. Then in July time the fitness and sharpness training ramps up for a late August/ September peak as the Down championship only starts then.

It's all well and good if you can pick up the odd points along the way but in recent years we haven't and last year we needed to beat Loughgeil in november to avoid the drop.

As for this years team we managed to blood five lads either just out of minor or still playing minor who played all or most of our games and have come on considerably due to it. We've still without one of our best players in Gabriel Clarke who got a bad break in the shin whilst playing for Down in the summer of 2009, he's been doing a bit of training this year but still waiting to get the metalwork removed. He should be back for the beginning of 2011.
Hopefully we'll be a much stronger proposition next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 20, 2010, 02:32:37 PM
JC whos the young lad hurled corner forward with a yellow helmet, played well against us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2010, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 20, 2010, 02:32:37 PM
JC whos the young lad hurled corner forward with a yellow helmet, played well against us

Danny Toner probably. He was still minor this year but was named in the first 15 by the club to stop the other teams from playing him.
It was a decision I personally didn't agree with as I thought a year in reserves would bring him on better but to be fair to him he's not been found wanting even when the opposition try to wear the hurl off him and that was my concern as he's fairly lightly made up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2010, 04:39:20 PM
Rossa    0-0   0-0   Gort Na Mona    Rossa   06/09/2010   18:30   Round 8 - Game has been voided by CCC


what happened there then??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
Someone had a treble of Gort Na Mona, the Paskistan cricketers v england and John Higgins for world championships in a bookies in andytown. Game had to be suspended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 20, 2010, 05:27:54 PM
Aye I mind that young fella in the corner, he's got pace with the ball and running at the defence caused trouble and resulted in yas getting some handy frees. But as you said yourself he's a bit slight but this year's experience won't do him any harm at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
Colonel, is it true that your club pu+ in an OBJ against Herbie??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 09:12:35 PM
Absolutely no idea about that MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2010, 09:19:54 PM
Thats what i heard. good source too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 09:25:45 PM
PM your source!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: horse it in to her on September 20, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
Colonel, is it true that your club pu+ in an OBJ against Herbie??
MR2 i would say they would rather have herbie than ray
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rua Abu on September 21, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
Watching this site for a while, Jesus lads you fairly give it to the referee's, god help that lad who's doing the county final. We take our game serious here in the "Rebel County" and I have give the men in black the odd shift, but you lads up there go at it no holes barred. I've started to referee recently after my playing days, and to be honest I enjoy it. I have a close friend who is a national Ref down here and has an AI Final under his belt, but no wonder Refs are short supply! You need to catch a grip and remember he has a life and a family outside the GAA. I love that lad Watson, great talent and will watch the result closely of your county final, and I for one would like to wish that Referee all the best, sounds like he is in a no-win situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2010, 01:28:54 PM
Quote from: Rua Abu on September 21, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
Watching this site for a while, Jesus lads you fairly give it to the referee's, god help that lad who's doing the county final.

Who is "you" Rua Abu?  :o

Do me a favour and name the posters who "fairly give it to the referees" and then name those that don't. Do a tally and tell me if that sweeping statement of yours is fair?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2010, 01:31:25 PM
It will be a cold day in hell when we start taking advice from Cork people when it comes to treatment of hurling people!

Only one poster has crossed the line here regarding the refs and Im sure it is the same across each county in Ireland. That what it is a debate on the ref, who will play where and on who and who will win our games thats half the craic.

It has been said that the refs do it to the best of their ability and try to do it fair end of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rua Abu on September 21, 2010, 01:51:01 PM
Christ lads, maybe I shouldn't have declared I was a Ref!!!! NAG1,The skull1 all I can say is if this is an example of Antrim in general then good luck to you, no wonder you r where you r. That old persecution complex, same as ourselves i might add however we do generate success. Skull1 you sound like a child in a classroom, or maybe a Maths teacher. Just caught the slanging match that was going on, and gave an opinion, suppose your reply would be stick your opinion!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2010, 02:39:27 PM
Nothing to do with you being a ref, its the attitude you came to this part of the board with. The same attitude that permeates all of the hurling world in the South, the 'keep it going up there lads' attitude.

I would check out some of the postings by your fellow rebels on other threads re: refs before you claim to be whiter than white.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 21, 2010, 03:29:03 PM
Easy on fellas.  The lad made a comment which incorrectly generalised all the posters to this forus.  Don't think it deserves the responses he's getting though!! :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2010, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2010, 01:28:54 PM
Quote from: Rua Abu on September 21, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
Watching this site for a while, Jesus lads you fairly give it to the referee's, god help that lad who's doing the county final.

Who is "you" Rua Abu?  :o

Do me a favour and name the posters who "fairly give it to the referees" and then name those that don't. Do a tally and tell me if that sweeping statement of yours is fair?

Quote from: pdiddy on September 21, 2010, 03:29:03 PM
Easy on fellas.  The lad made a comment which incorrectly generalised all the posters to this forus.  Don't think it deserves the responses he's getting though!! :-[

I've nothing to be easy on about diddy. I asked the man to reflect upon his sweeping statement and asked was it fair to make the generalisation that "we" (the majority of posters on this board) got stuck into refs in this thread. He was wrong to say so and should have acknowledged that in his previous response. Quite unbelieveable that he didn't and instead completely ignored what I had politiely asked him to do. Yes Rua, stick your opinions if you're not going to ground them in fact. Are you prepared to back them up with the facts or are you just going to keep sniping

I really want to know wtf this means in the context of what we're talking about "The skull1 all I can say is if this is an example of Antrim in general then good luck to you, no wonder you r where you r"
 ???



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2010, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2010, 02:39:27 PM
Nothing to do with you being a ref, its the attitude you came to this part of the board with. The same attitude that permeates all of the hurling world in the South, the 'keep it going up there lads' attitude.

I would check out some of the postings by your fellow rebels on other threads re: refs before you claim to be whiter than white.

The chances of this person being from cork are slim to none.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
ITG

Take him at his word!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2010, 05:12:52 PM
Ha, sorry NAG - far too suspicious...When are the refs in cork going on strike then rua?

Anyway...

What's the deal with Watson - he playing sunday or not?

Is Graffin back from the states? He be playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 21, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
Graffin hurled in the semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2010, 08:48:15 PM
There are about four newbies, they havent changed their style and we shouldn't react to the sh1te.

Sundays game should be good, i believe that the two teams are very well matched, good forwards against good defenders.

So it will be down to the managers who will be able to get that extra bit from their players. Will be hard to call but i'm going for a draw ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2010, 08:50:25 PM
Is there any betting for this match ? I saw something on PP a few weeks ago but it isn't there now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2010, 08:59:18 PM
seems its all gone!! starnge though i heard today you'll get evens on Cushendall and 4/7 on Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2010, 08:59:18 PM
seems its all gone!! starnge though i heard today you'll get evens on Cushendall and 4/7 on Loughgiel

I would takeyour hand off for evens for Cushendall. Do you fancy holding the bets Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
thats what i'm hearing, Toals maybe taking it, will find out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2010, 11:50:08 PM
am new to this site but doesn't mean i come in and stir shit!!  no matter what shape the langer thinks were in, we dont go on strike and blame management,  yep, should be a battel of the forwards come sunday.   shamrocks by 4? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 08:30:43 AM
Watson to definitely play, no matter what is said between now and the final.

Comes down again to how well Cushendall play at the back, a low scoring game Cushendall will come out on top a free scoring game will see Loughgiel take it.

I just wonder how the extra couple of weeks have suited Cushendall getting Graffin back in the camp and getting a few of the injuries cleared up, no dout they will have the mental edge, but this one is very much on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 22, 2010, 09:33:23 AM
not sure that I like the new lay out with the counties being listed. The old way allowed ya to scan everything else that was going on.

BTW yer man isn't from Cork. He said that his mate was a ref and that he had an AI under his belt. The only guy from Cork to ref an AI was Diarmuid Kirwan and he in fact has 2 AIs under his belt - don't ya just love Google!! Now if this guy was his 'mate' he'd have known that!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 22, 2010, 10:23:12 AM
Don't buy that Loughgiel have better forwards than Cushendall, with Graffin back there is every chance Cushendall will have a forward unit containing Neil McManus, Shane McNaughton, Karl McKeegan, Natty & Paddy McGill.  Only Winker could be classed as a better forward than any of them.

In fact i honestly believe Cushendall have much superior hurlers all over the park, what Loughgiel have is a very shrewd gameplan, they apply pressure high up the field and have the energy and the discipline to close down the spaces in front of the goals.  This makes them very hard to beat

there will be some very interesting calls on the line,

Will Cushendall play Graffin on Winker, personally i would play Karl McKeegan CHB and put Graffin on Watson, put McCambridge on McCarry, McKeegan should be well able to hold position on James Campbell (a natural defender)

I'd play Shanebo at Full Forward and really stretch the forwards, see if he can repeat his performance of last year in Ballycastle, Magill has been hurling well and if he can get onto the enormous amount of break ball there will be on the Loughgiel half back line then i'd fancy cushendall

from a loughgiel perspective they cannot allow McManus or McNaughton space to run at them, will they draw a man back, i'd expect do on Cushendall poc outs, would they hurl winker FF to try and move Scullion from the edge of the square

Still gutted there will be no Dunloy interest in this game but looking forward to it,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 22, 2010, 10:55:38 AM
I'd put Eddie McCloskey and Joey Scullion as good if not better than Paddy McGill and Natty.  Agree with you that Karl is a much better CHB than corner forward so may even put those 2 lads ahead of Karl also.

Agree with others that this is a tough one to call.  Depends on which Loughgiel team turns up really.  You know what you'll get with Cushendall but if Loughgiel play to potential then it will be close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 11:33:11 AM
Pdiddy

Give us some evidence on the JS one (EMcC has been going well this year but yet to prove it when really matters), really not being personal but havent got this one for a very long time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2010, 11:36:32 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 22, 2010, 10:55:38 AM
I'd put Eddie McCloskey and Joey Scullion as good if not better than Paddy McGill and Natty.  Agree with you that Karl is a much better CHB than corner forward so may even put those 2 lads ahead of Karl also.

Agree with others that this is a tough one to call.  Depends on which Loughgiel team turns up really.  You know what you'll get with Cushendall but if Loughgiel play to potential then it will be close.

Cushendall were pretty poor against Ballycastle. Loughgiel were pretty poor against us, so no one could be descibed as the form team going into this match. People will of course use history as a judge to predict what will happen on Sunday, but Tipp or Cork (to a lesser extent) didn't let that hinder them this year. Cushendall (and I'd say alot of people) will be expecting history to repeat itself. We'll not know untill Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 11:50:01 AM
Skull are you going or could you not bare the tension?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2010, 12:06:30 PM
We have no right to win the match and our players would all be thinking the same. They will however be confident in winning as there is the talent there to win it regrdless of the fact we have a good recent history in finals against the shamrocks. There might be changes to the team, won't know to Sunday. Its upto the management to decide do we put our team out as best they see or change it to stop any threats they see from Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 22, 2010, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 11:33:11 AM
Pdiddy

Give us some evidence on the JS one (EMcC has been going well this year but yet to prove it when really matters), really not being personal but havent got this one for a very long time?

JS was playing really well last year before he got injured (Broke his ankle against Rossa I think). Caused Dunloy a few problems in the Feis final before Paddy Richmond stole the show in the final few minutes.   I think he has the potential to be a match winner but on reflection would agree that he hasn't lived up to that potential. 

As for EMcC, I think the lad is a natural hurler but like alot of the Loughgeil fellas probably lacks confidence in his own ability.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
pdiddy cheers for the response.

Always looked at the lad as having the potential but was never going to fulfill it.
EMcC could be as effective as LW if loughgiel get their game plan correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2010, 03:01:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
pdiddy cheers for the response.


You mean cheers for agreeing with me don't you NAG1  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Well since Im never wrong he hadnt much option  :D

Skull you never said you would be there on Sunday or at home with the rosary beads out  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
Karl has played in the forwards and i expect him to do so on Sunday, NMcM i think will play in his best position CHB and that should snuff out a lot of ball in the forwards.

Loughgiel have two big men in the fullforward line and a nippy corner forward. the FF is slow, McGourty marked him (after he done some damage on another player)  and never give him a puck. Scullion played well as did EMcC and Johnny swept in under every puck out from the keeper. smart puck outs required from the Dall

Should Loughgiel keep the tempo at full pelt and stop ball going into Shane then they do have a good chance. as in the final before, being 7/8 points up with twenty minutes to go means nothing ;)

that will be twenty quid i'll be giving Casement this weekend :o then the bar might get a few quid
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
After two brutal forward displays in the semi's, I'll be happy enough if it's a good game

I can remember a few years ago having a rye smile leaving casement after "that second half"......I don't know if I'm getting soft in my old age or what but now I don't think I would enjoy seeing such a capitualtion again......there's some thoroughly decent lads on that team who've busted a gut for years for their club. I wouldn't begrudge them a county medal.

Caveat: I reserve the right to change my opinion as we move toward the weekend  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: monkey on September 22, 2010, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
there's some thoroughly decent lads on that team who've busted a gut for years for their club. I wouldn't begrudge them a county medal.

Caveat: I reserve the right to change my opinion as we move toward the weekend  ;)

IMHO the only people that deserve a county medal are those that stand up on the day and want it more.  To lose 6 finals in a row says it all.  It will be 7 from 8 on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 09:55:54 PM
Right here's a cracker for youse to debate. We were due to play Ballycastle on Saturday last. Firstly the game was fixed for 5 but due to their involvement with a senior game in Ballygalget i was asked to change the time to accommodate them. I did, changed it to 6.

At 4 PM our grounds man phoned me to say the pitch was knee deep in water due to the rain falling since the night before. I then phoned the referee who was down to do the game (Ray Matthews) to ask him to do a pitch inspection. After he carried out a pitch inspection he phoned the CCC and give them his reasons to call off the match. Ray phoned me back to say game was off and i notified the players. Some of our players were already there though >:(

I checked the county Website to see when the refix is and hey presto Ballycastle are down to play Cushendall this Saturday in the quarter final and we aren't even in it any more!!

I'm confused if a referee says a pitch is unplayable do you then lose the game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: horse it in to her on September 22, 2010, 10:01:18 PM
MR2  cushendall res play portaferry on saturday not ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2010, 10:05:25 PM
sorry Sarsfields, but thats not my point ;D

I am feeling hard done by, can't understand their logic. bad enough for the lads to lose out on the South Antrim championship but now they have been screwed over cause the referee called the game off!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on September 23, 2010, 08:54:18 AM
MR I'd get the club secretary to send a written objection advising CCC that if they proceed with the competition then you will take the matter to higher authority.

Bottom line is that if what I can see you played it by the book. It may not do your case any harm if you ask the ref to give you a report detailing his reasons for calling the game off. What really pisses me off about this sort of thing is that we should be encouraging lads to play and not throwing up obstacles at every opportunity. If that doesnt work go to the DRA. Whilst the CCC has done well with the number of games which have been played there does need to be a degree of common sense.

As for SA, we've debated that and there needs to be a change in the rules to allow lads to play in that championship. To be fair I think that  Rossa, St Johns and yourselves being unable to use some key players has really taken the cut and thrust out of the competition.
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Post by: maxpower on September 23, 2010, 11:07:33 AM
it'd be hard to not feel hard done by and pretty sure you would have to be reinstated, the reserve competition was much better when it was played in May time before alot of players became inelilgible by playing 10 minutes of senior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 23, 2010, 12:15:46 PM
Quote from: monkey on September 22, 2010, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
there's some thoroughly decent lads on that team who've busted a gut for years for their club. I wouldn't begrudge them a county medal.

Caveat: I reserve the right to change my opinion as we move toward the weekend  ;)

IMHO the only people that deserve a county medal are those that stand up on the day and want it more.  To lose 6 finals in a row says it all.  It will be 7 from 8 on Sunday.

A 'Team' only deserve to be County Champions if they as a team win the County Championship.  Individuals however can be worthy and deserve to be County Champions.  Tony Browne has never won an All Ireland but Id say he deserves one as he is, sorry was, one of the best in Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2010, 08:40:07 PM
All sorted. Good sense seen by the CCC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
Good to see the county responding to the pressure put on by yourself on this forum milltown  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
Skull you must be getting soft in the old age.  ;)  I know the sentiment your after but dont have to think back too hard or too long for same said men to not being so deserving.

Anyone see the forecast for the weekend I would imagine this will have a massive influence on the game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2010, 09:41:06 AM
Winker has got an All Star nomination, well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 24, 2010, 10:11:15 AM
Just seen that, boost for the shams before the weekend
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2010, 11:16:47 AM
Have Loughgiel ever had an all star before?

Now that I think about it is this their first nomination?

(Maybe Woody or beaver got nominated?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 24, 2010, 12:13:06 PM
Cloot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2010, 01:08:57 PM
I thought someone would answer that...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 24, 2010, 01:12:07 PM
I think Niall Patterson got nominated !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
When was he sent off this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 02:20:15 PM
sent off unfairly in the cork game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2010, 02:26:47 PM
I thought that disqualified you automatically or has that rule been done away with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
Did not know about that rule. i'd check the list, bound to be others
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2010, 02:38:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 24, 2010, 02:26:47 PM
I thought that disqualified you automatically or has that rule been done away with?

It was done away with a few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Thats fine, wasnt a great rule to begin with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on September 24, 2010, 04:53:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 02:20:15 PM
sent off unfairly in the cork game.

:o. not sure about that.

glad he got a nomination mind, after the way he played against cork he fully deserves it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 04:56:21 PM
Was joking, my phone cant put on the smiley's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 24, 2010, 06:45:29 PM
Anyone know all antrims all stars. I think andy Mc Callion was first in Football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 24, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
sambo, humpy, beaver and clute i think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 04:56:21 PM
Was joking, my phone cant put on the smiley's
You were blocked at the Cork match so your account needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2010, 08:01:34 PM
Tony i'd was for the Galway game, i was under the weather a bit, was fine for the Antrim game ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 24, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 24, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
sambo, humpy, beaver and clute i think

Ciaran Barr, Cloot (the real one) and Dessie Donnelly, Sambo and Humpy are Antrim's hurling all stars. I think Eddie Donnelly and Ciaran Herron were replacements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
Has Humpy an all star? Thought he'd just a couple of nominations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2010, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
Has Humpy an all star? Thought he'd just a couple of nominations.

All star in '93, basically for a good Ulster Final against Danny Hughes after being ate the previous year, and a good first half against Kilkenny in the AISF. That is not being derogatory by the way, just fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 24, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 24, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
sambo, humpy, beaver and clute i think

Ciaran Barr, Cloot (the real one) and Dessie Donnelly, Sambo and Humpy are Antrim's hurling all stars. I think Eddie Donnelly and Ciaran Herron were replacements.
I think Niall Wheeler got a replacement all star in the early 70s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 24, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
Any other football all stars other than wee andy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2010, 10:44:07 PM
Did Danny McNaughton get a replacement all star? Could be wrong but thought he got one in the 80s?

Would have been round the year we ran cork close. 87 / 88?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2010, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2010, 10:44:07 PM
Did Danny McNaughton get a replacement all star? Could be wrong but thought he got one in the 80s?

Would have been round the year we ran cork close. 87 / 88?

Aye was 87 i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 24, 2010, 11:55:32 PM
Antrims All Star roll of honour is:

1988 - Ciaran Barr
1989 - Dessie Donnelly and Clute
1991 - Sambo
1993 - Humpy

I know Dessie and Humpy were also replacements in other years and i think most of the rest of the replacements have been mentioned too; Niall Wheeler, Eddie Donnelly, Brian Donnelly and Danny McNaughton. I don't think Liam Watson will be adding his name to the roll of honour this year.

As for Sunday i think Loughgiel will fall again at the final hurdle. Aaron Graffin will have had 4 weeks of training done now and i guess Shane McNaughton will be fit. They were certainly missed for the full game against Ballycastle. With paddy McGill, chipping in with probably a few points and Karl mcKeegan up front too i just think they have a more proven forward line than Loughgiels.

Loughgiel did look quite impressive for me against Dunloy but how much of that was down to Dunloys poor showing on the day? Maybe some of the other Loughgiel forwards will step up and prove themselves on the biggest day but i just have a feeling Cushendall will get the better of them. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 25, 2010, 09:56:18 AM
Anybody know the odds for the final? Or what bookies are offering them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2010, 09:57:57 AM
Quote from: wino on September 25, 2010, 09:56:18 AM
Anybody know the odds for the final? Or what bookies are offering them

PP

Dall 4/6 Shamrocks 5/4

Ladbrokes

Dall 4/5 Shamrocks 11/10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 25, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
Who do you think should have got an all star but didn't - Aidan Mc carry is one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 25, 2010, 07:30:51 PM
Paul Mc Killen had a great year in 1986 against John Fenton. Dessie was unbelievably slow for an all star. Had a great semi final in 89 against Offaly but got skinned in the final by Pat Fox. The all star selection had to give Antrim something for making the final. They actually over looked the best man we had that year in Aidan Mc Garry.

Will say this though a bout Dessie Donnelly, he got the best goal I ever seen in the 1991 semi against kilkenny. Over all since the back door Antrim won't get any all stars also if the back door was in in 1989 they wouldn't have made the final either. The best club team ever to come out of Antrim was Dunloy. I would say even better that Loughiel's famous 1983 team. They beat top class opposition on a regular basis before the Mc Mullans and Elliots etc all started to age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2010, 09:37:11 PM
My uncle reckoned the Ballycastle team of around '79 or '80 was the best club team that that he had seen come out of Antrim. They were beaten in an All Ireland Club final by Castlegar of Galway and all the Connolly brothers. I have to say though he wouldnt have seen much of Dunloy in the 90's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 26, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
Congrats to the Shamrocks - think they deserved it after all those lost finals. Good to see another name on the Volunteer Cup after all those years of Dunloy and Cushendall domination (not forgetting Rossa's welcome intervention)!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2010, 06:22:00 PM
Cushendall will regret that one for a while, with the amount of bad wides they hit. 0-11 in their semi and 0-11 today on a perfect day for hurling shows where their problems are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
aye i have this feeling Cushendall maybe lost that match, if you check the stats tomorrow you'll find that Loughgiel won on frees!!

but fair play, after 21 years then thats that. I'm sure Dunloy and the Dall will be back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 26, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
Things could get messy around here for a while  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
Fairhead, what happened to that young lad from Carey? our reserve game called off due to his un timely death.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 26, 2010, 08:02:22 PM
Congratulations to Loughiel this will lift the spirits of the village after so many final defeats. Hopefully Ballycastle will be ready to lunch a serious attack on the championship next year and bring back a bit of old traditional rivalry with the Shamrocks. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on September 26, 2010, 08:02:22 PM
Congratulations to Loughiel this will lift the spirits of the village after so many final defeats. Hopefully Ballycastle will be ready to lunch a serious attack on the championship next year and bring back a bit of old traditional rivalry with the Shamrocks. :)

surely you'll be playing in the other Championship ;) Div 2 teams playing Intermediate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2010, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2010, 07:54:51 PM
Things could get messy around here for a while  ::)

I was thinking the same thing  :).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
I don't think even the hardest hearts would begrudge fellas like Johhny Campbell, DD Quinn and Barney Mc Auley that were there for all the final defeats. Loughgile were able to bring on subs to keep the energy levels up towards the end, Cushendall didnt seem to have anything on the bench that the management trusted to bring on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 26, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
Fairhead, what happened to that young lad from Carey? our reserve game called off due to his un timely death.

Meninigitis, MR2. Terrible, terrible tragedy for the family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 26, 2010, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
Fairhead, what happened to that young lad from Carey? our reserve game called off due to his un timely death.

Meninigitis, MR2. Terrible, terrible tragedy for the family.

What was the young persons name? Very tough on the family. Máire Banríon na nGael ag guí ar a shon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2010, 09:09:41 PM
Total tradegy for the family puts everything into perspective!

On todays game worst final in a long time, cushendall be wondering how they lost this one.

Loughgiel failed to put a score on the board for more than half the match, but not that they will care tonight.

Poor season all round in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2010, 10:08:47 PM
Aye thought it was very stop start. How Cushendall let it slip was poor. Two in a row for them now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2010, 10:18:18 PM
They did seem very fragile today at times when a championship winning team (which they have been) should have taken the match and got over the line!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 26, 2010, 10:24:25 PM
There will be some Monday club in The Pound tomorrow...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 27, 2010, 09:09:23 AM
Well done L'giel yesterday, while my heart was with the Ruaris you couldn't begrudge the fellas that Minder mentioned already and as it happened were the standout players for the shams.
Their massive efforts have paid off this year and they have taken a big step forward, but is it sustainable???
Big PJ will surely dine out on ths one for a year or 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
As most have said was an awful game of hurling and like last year i didnt see one good game of championship hurling at all and i was at all of them. (not that loughgiel will give a damn today)

Im sure Cushendall will be kicking themselves as they totally dominated most of the game just didnt get the scores when on top. Loughgiel where kept in the game with some very soft frees.

I also thought the ref gave a very poor performance and as was said on here already and as i expected wasnt up to the job and seemed to favour loughgiel IMO, i would have to agree with  some of the dall folk close to me who couldnt believe there was only one minute extra time.

After the game yesterday i fancied ballycran to win ulster, then i heard they got tanked by one of the worst teams i have seen all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 09:24:30 AM
Shrek not a bad summation Ray doesnt seem to like to see LW get any sort of tackle and thought some of the things he missed were exceptionally obvious but there you go.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2010, 09:30:43 AM
How many minutes did he play? It was at least two minutes. The way Cushendall were shooting I'm not sure it would have mattered. I actually thought Matthews was poor for both teams, some blatant fouls were let go and then he was blowing up for innocuous ones. One thing I will say, and everyone else has said, he isn't fit enough to keep up with the play. Towards the end Loughgile were shouting for a free in the corner towards the control tower and Ray was at the midfield line so there was no way he could see it. Cushendall have nobody to blame but themselves though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 09:44:06 AM
Signalled one minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
i only noticed as the people beside me mentioned it -  he played 1 min 30 secs.  Minder im sure Cushendall wont be blaming anyone but themselves, but i know if i was from the Dall i wouldnt be too happy with his performance.  But as you said he was far from fit which from what i was told was obvious from the semi-final which makes you wonder how he got a final in the first place.

Anyway, congrats to loughgiel, they derserve to win cause they scored the most (i dont buy into the shite that they deserved to win cause they lost so many finals)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2010, 11:33:18 AM
Last years county final was a good game of hurling I thought anyway. At least there was a few scores of note in it

Is anyone else struggling with the fact that "thehurler" was right all along  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
Think he was by default dont think that counts  ;)

Last years game was a very exciting game, had a bit of everything, LG went 25-30mins of yesterdays game without a score, Cushendall will be sitting wondering how the cup isnt sitting on the Lurig bar right now. But thats sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 27, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2010, 11:33:18 AM
Last years county final was a good game of hurling I thought anyway. At least there was a few scores of note in it

Is anyone else struggling with the fact that "thehurler" was right all along  :)

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


Quote
After the game yesterday i fancied ballycran to win ulster, then i heard they got tanked by one of the worst teams i have seen all year.

I'll not doubt that last man as we've had some horrendous performances in the league this year but we have come on leaps and bounds the last few games and have stumbled on a formula which works for us. We've lost two young lads to broken hands/fingers and the bench isn't the strongest but we'll give it a real go.
The bodies will no doubt be favourites in two sunday's time with home advantage and all that  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 27, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 11:40:46 AM
Think he was by default dont think that counts  ;)

Last years game was a very exciting game, had a bit of everything, LG went 25-30mins of yesterdays game without a score, Cushendall will be sitting wondering how the cup isnt sitting on the Lurig bar right now. But thats sport.

No mystery. There forwards were shite. A couple of them have never been anything more than passengers. Micky McCambridges dirty, off the ball antics came back to bite him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 01:32:34 PM
In fairness, I saw the second incident and there was certainly a dive involved, but he shouldnt have been in that situation and should know better with his experience. As well as this not that I am apologising for him here, but the loughgile player struck with the hurl in the first instance and managed to not get booked someone explain that one to me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 27, 2010, 01:39:35 PM
Quote from: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 09:15:44 AM
As most have said was an awful game of hurling and like last year i didn't see one good game of championship hurling at all and i was at all of them. (not that loughgiel will give a damn today)

Im sure Cushendall will be kicking themselves as they totally dominated most of the game just didnt get the scores when on top. Loughgiel where kept in the game with some very soft frees.

I also thought the ref gave a very poor performance and as was said on here already and as i expected wasnt up to the job and seemed to favour loughgiel IMO, i would have to agree with  some of the dall folk close to me who couldnt believe there was only one minute extra time.

After the game yesterday i fancied ballycran to win ulster, then i heard they got tanked by one of the worst teams i have seen all year.

totally dominated the game, referees favouring LG, not enough injury time, soft frees, dives  -  doesn't matter much how much nonsense you or nag1 talk.  Loughgiel won because they scored 1 point more than the Dall - maybe your simple brains cant understand that.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2010, 01:45:19 PM
Yeah its hard to comprehend alright wino!

IMO this is a discussion board and is here so that people can discuss their opinions of the game and what happened during the game etc.

If you have something to say about the match then say it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 02:07:48 PM
i am afraid your the only one talking nonsense here wino,  i am giving my opinion from a neutral point of view, maybe you should give your opinion.

Also try reading all the posts before commenting or maybe your simple brain cant understand that.

Quote from: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
iAnyway, congrats to loughgiel, they derserve to win cause they scored the most (i dont buy into the shite that they deserved to win cause they lost so many finals)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 27, 2010, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 02:07:48 PM
i am afraid your the only one talking nonsense here wino,  i am giving my opinion from a neutral point of view, maybe you should give your opinion.

Also try reading all the posts before commenting or maybe your simple brain cant understand that.

Quote from: Shrek on September 27, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
iAnyway, congrats to loughgiel, they derserve to win cause they scored the most (i dont buy into the shite that they deserved to win cause they lost so many finals)
fair enough Shrek, I should read further back, I still think your wrong on some of your points, but as NAG1 says its about opinions (this is the only thing I could ever agree with NAG1) but....... off to the pub  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2010, 05:10:49 PM
Go easy on the buckfast wino......btw you're late for the monday club. Everybody else will be half winged by now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2010, 08:32:19 PM
NMcM for me should have been pushed up front early on and AD should have came on earlier than the 7 minutes he got, no better man under the breaking ball and can 'engineer' a point or two. Graffin and Sean D played well but the Dalls forward line didn't do it for me. Neil should have switched with Karl. Of the forwards that did turn up Paddy McGill won a lot of ball but a lot of Loughgeil pressure paid off in the amount of wides they hit.

As a spectacle for the neutral it was pants. The minute for injury time was shy I thought, think it was for Winkers injury I would have added 2 (30 seconds more than really played)

So in the end fair play from Naomh Gall and I hope you push on and do well (I said the same for the other winners) in Ulster and beyond. (Enter Johnnycool ;D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 28, 2010, 10:34:42 AM
Congratulations to the Shamrocks.  As Brian Cody always says 'The best team always wins the Final' and who am I to disagree with the great man.  A spirited last 10 minutes from the men in red was enough to see them over the line. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 28, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
Watched the DVD of the game today with no nerves or drink to distract me. There was some great hurling from both sides. Yes not high scoring but some really good passages of play. The defending was excellent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2010, 08:33:44 AM
Wino if your not on the drink I would say to stay out of the medicine cabinet  ;)

Was a poor final on both sides, barring maybe the first 5-10mins from LG. Apart from that it was error ridden and slow.
Not that this changes the result or what it means to LG, just no point dressing it up to be something that it wasnt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 29, 2010, 08:50:11 AM
Wino, yous seem to have left no stone unturned this year and I take it video analysis was part of it.
From the semi final I certainly got the impression no other team would come close in their preparations for a championship campaign. Before anyone goes off on one, thats what it looked like to me as a neutral, they have never looked so organised and more importantly settled.
Has the bar been raised? What will the repercussions be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2010, 09:21:59 AM
I don't think this is the first year they had used video analysis, I'm not sure of it's importance as it's not as if you are playing teams you are unfamiliar with. They were very well looked after under the previous regime when Hooker Connolly had them, training weekends down south etc. They just weren't good enough before and it maybe needed a year or two for some of the younger players to mature and improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 29, 2010, 09:25:55 AM
Quote from: wino on September 28, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
Watched the DVD of the game today with no nerves or drink to distract me. There was some great hurling from both sides. Yes not high scoring but some really good passages of play. The defending was excellent

Wino,
    can you send that DVD down to me to have a look at?

FAO: JohnneyCool

Ballygalget GAC
14 Ballygalget Road
Newtownards
Co Down
BT22 1NE

thanks in advance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 29, 2010, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2010, 08:33:44 AM
Wino if your not on the drink I would say to stay out of the medicine cabinet  ;)

Was a poor final on both sides, barring maybe the first 5-10mins from LG. Apart from that it was error ridden and slow.
Not that this changes the result or what it means to LG, just no point dressing it up to be something that it wasnt.

Wasn't at the match, but from talking to people who were and reading a few of the comments on here, the consensus appears to be that it was a relatively poor match. Have to say, having watched tg4 (albeit online), as much as they showed of it appeared to be of a reasonable enough standard - the power of editing, eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2010, 10:44:21 AM
Cloot they do it every week on match of the day with the EPL  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 29, 2010, 12:16:35 PM
The benefit in the Video analysis I suppose is when a player sees for himself the faults in his game he takes ownership of putting them right while if he's just hearing it from the coach he can be inclined to take the hump. Overall there are no hiding places. Has to be worth a good few percentage points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 29, 2010, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2010, 10:44:21 AM
Cloot they do it every week on match of the day with the EPL  :D

Fair point!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 29, 2010, 01:30:14 PM
Johnny - NAG1 says he will send you a DVD - something about Debbie and Dallas, not sure what its about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 29, 2010, 01:33:12 PM
Funny enough with the editing - only things I didn't see was the sending off and DMK`s low pull. Wonder who done the video
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 29, 2010, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: wino on September 29, 2010, 01:30:14 PM
Johnny - NAG1 says he will send you a DVD - something about Debbie and Dallas, not sure what its about.

Is she any relation to Malachy Dallas of Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 29, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
NAG1 - not trying to dress it up. I do think if you watched it again you will see good hurling. It wasn't a classic but from a Loughgiel point of view it was only about winning. They held the nerve and came through. Nobody in Loughgiel gives a toss about anything else. As for the medicine cupboard, anybody a cure for a hangover
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 29, 2010, 01:56:23 PM
Re Wino's point re the defending I agree - certainly for a 10/15 minute period in the mid to the end of the first half and start of second, Cushendall were blocking at a serious rate and harrassing the Loughgeil players (none more so that Mickey McC but sure we'll not get into that).
Not sure if that suggests good defending or bad play by Loughgeil but I'll go with the former as, though maybe not in the championship, but Loughgeil have been racking up some seriously good scores this year.
There was some decent enough high fielding - think Eddie McCloskey made 1 or 2 good catches first half among a few others.
Declan McKillop was a joy to watch in that first half - he looks so flipping languid but just seemed to be exactly where the ball was for a good 20 min period and got through a mountain of work. Re Wino's comment it seemed like he went for the ball when he pulled from where I was stood.
Paddy McNaughton looks a great prospect. The Dall should have stepped up a gear from his point on the sideline but they just didn't.

Re the poor quality of the game it was the shooting/scoring that was the serious problem....as all have said.
If that's the sole thing you base an analysis of a game on then it was a very poor game.

Fair play to the boadies...a fair few sore heads on the go in that direction I'd say, if they have sobered up.


Has always been a mantra of the boadies to harp back to the All Ireland victory and to slag off the others for not stepping up in the All Ireland series. Will they be able to do that for Ulster and the All Ireland or will they rest on the laurels/in the Pound.
Are they actually good enough to go all the way now they have the monkey off their back?
Discuss.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 29, 2010, 01:58:07 PM
Only coming round to posting now - Loughgiel are the champions, a win based on a resolute and mean defence, holding both Dunloy and Cushendall no goals and limited points.

Loughgiel managers made a few big calls during the year and got them right, they had to move Neil McGarry to full back to shore up things, Eddie McCloskey to CHF seemed to unsettle McManus in first throws of the game, Barney was needed at midfield to stop the dominance of the Cushendall pairing.

A few points about the game
1. Johnny Campbell & Eddie McCloskey made some fantastic catches
2. Cushendall line were slow to make the changes,
3. Do umpires only see Loughgiel men getting hit, a very deliberate ploy by the shamrocks to barge into, or slag players, get a nap and then lay down.  Means defenders are relunctant to tackle for the rest of the game.  It something i don't like in their game.
4. the one minute over time was a joke, given Winkers injury, the schmoozle before the sending off and the number of subs, 4 mins in the first half, none in the second.  No sense to that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2010, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: wino on September 29, 2010, 01:50:35 PM
NAG1 - not trying to dress it up. I do think if you watched it again you will see good hurling. It wasn't a classic but from a Loughgiel point of view it was only about winning. They held the nerve and came through. Nobody in Loughgiel gives a toss about anything else. As for the medicine cupboard, anybody a cure for a hangover


Wasnt this my point  >:(

only things I didn't see was the sending off and DMK`s low pull. Wonder who done the video

Your not seriously going to go to bat for this chap over an early low pull? Ray saw it as did everyone and dealt with it, I think there was more than a little what goes around comes around in that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 29, 2010, 06:13:03 PM
Your right what goes around comes around,if you understand. No big deal with DMK but it wasn't on the DVD as it was a dirty pull - that's all I was saying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 29, 2010, 08:30:45 PM
Speaking of all things Ulster as I was...

Look at this one from the county website:
Mullahoran St Josephs (Cavan) v St Brigids Cloughmills (Antrim) at Ballyconnell Ref: J Devlin (Tyrone)

That is a pretty tight journey right there from Cloughmills. I'd say if tried you probably couldn't make a team travel further in Ulster. Did a wee google there and its 50 miles away from Mullahoran.
Is it always home advantage? (Johnney Cool...not talking about Casement here!!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2010, 08:45:49 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 29, 2010, 08:30:45 PM
Speaking of all things Ulster as I was...

Look at this one from the county website:
Mullahoran St Josephs (Cavan) v St Brigids Cloughmills (Antrim) at Ballyconnell Ref: J Devlin (Tyrone)

That is a pretty tight journey right there from Cloughmills. I'd say if tried you probably couldn't make a team travel further in Ulster. Did a wee google there and its 50 miles away from Mullahoran.
Is it always home advantage? (Johnney Cool...not talking about Casement here!!)

Strangely enough it looks like the intermediate and junior hurling Ulster club championships early rounds seem to have home advantage to whoever's drawn out first, a bit like the senior club football championship.

I wonder why the senior hurling seems to have missed this rule all these years???  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 30, 2010, 10:35:17 AM
Johnny the last time Loughgiel played in the ulsters they travelled to Co Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 30, 2010, 11:02:48 AM
That was before the Westlink was built though and it was faster to get to the Ards than it was to Casement  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2010, 11:36:29 AM
Quote from: wino on September 30, 2010, 10:35:17 AM
Johnny the last time Loughgiel played in the ulsters they travelled to Co Down.


Back in 1989 if I recollect properly and indeed that's the last time an Ulster final has been played outside Antrim.

How's my old mucker Dan the man? Is he still annoying people in the pound?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 30, 2010, 05:14:14 PM
Johnny - Dans still the same, can't keep that smile off his face. He tried but couldn't annoy anybody in the pound the last few days
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 30, 2010, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 30, 2010, 11:02:48 AM
That was before the Westlink was built though and it was faster to get to the Ards than it was to Casement  ;)

NAG1 maybe the next time your for casement we will all be using space shuttles :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 30, 2010, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 29, 2010, 01:58:07 PM
Only coming round to posting now - Loughgiel are the champions, a win based on a resolute and mean defence, holding both Dunloy and Cushendall no goals and limited points.

Loughgiel managers made a few big calls during the year and got them right, they had to move Neil McGarry to full back to shore up things, Eddie McCloskey to CHF seemed to unsettle McManus in first throws of the game, Barney was needed at midfield to stop the dominance of the Cushendall pairing.

A few points about the game
1. Johnny Campbell & Eddie McCloskey made some fantastic catches
2. Cushendall line were slow to make the changes,
3. Do umpires only see Loughgiel men getting hit, a very deliberate ploy by the shamrocks to barge into, or slag players, get a nap and then lay down.  Means defenders are relunctant to tackle for the rest of the game.  It something i don't like in their game.
4. the one minute over time was a joke, given Winkers injury, the schmoozle before the sending off and the number of subs, 4 mins in the first half, none in the second.  No sense to that.

Have to disagree with you here Max.  The current management team have worked hard on the discipline side of the Loughgiel game and this is backed up the fact that they've only received 1 Red card all year (early in the season).  When it came down to the crunch of championship hurling their discipline was excellent. 

If defenders are 'reluctant to tackle for the rest of the game' because they have been caught hitting a player off the ball then they have only themselves to blame and not the umpire or referee who spotted the indiscretion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2010, 06:51:25 AM
It's good discipline but it gamesmanship and it's not how I think hurling should be played. I do agree if you do a dirty stroke off the ball you deserve your medicine but the two key points I was making were loughgiel players were initiating the confrontation, either jostling or giving the verbals, then secondly going down far too easily

Don't want to dwell on it, it didn't win them the championship but while there is much to admire in there aggressive defence it's an aspect of the game I loathe, bear in mind also the goalscorer on Sunday struck off the ball in the closing mins of the semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on October 01, 2010, 08:57:34 AM
Have to agree with max here, it isnt a point we should dwell on too much, but if it continues it could spread through more teams and become like soccer.

the jostling and digging (within reason) are part of the game, i saw a couple of incidents where as max said, a player dug another player, he dug back, first player went down like he was shot. if that was to creep into our sport we will have players falling over all the time incase they get a yellow / red ala that foreign sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 01, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
Limerick and Clare at Casement in NHL, which is nice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2010, 11:37:40 AM
If that does keep the services of the past management I'll eat my hat!!

Potential to win the league should Dinny want it. the rest, while being competitive last year are beatable away from home. we need to improve our league but Dinny is not that interested
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on October 01, 2010, 06:18:22 PM
Sunday 26th September 2010
Reserve Hurling Cup
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
St. Galls          Ballycastle    St. Galls   Not Played   

what happened here? is this 2 weeks in row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2010, 11:25:38 PM
Playing tomorrow. at four
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rolloutking on October 03, 2010, 02:13:18 AM
QuoteSt John's v Lisbellaw St Patrick's

Hail Mary Hurling at its most dangerous
Title: Anseo
Post by: drici on October 03, 2010, 11:43:27 AM
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=13843.0

For any one who missed out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2010, 11:00:47 PM
Ulster Club Intermediate Hurling Championship 2010
Semi Final
Sunday 10th October - 1 45 PM
Casement Park

St John's v Lisbellaw St Patrick's

Should be a quare slapping match, if milltown row is to be believed.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/23m7tjd.jpg)

think they learnt their lesson last time ;D ;D ;D

but in all honesty St Johns will win this by 30 plus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2010, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: rolloutking on October 03, 2010, 02:13:18 AM
QuoteSt John's v Lisbellaw St Patrick's

Hail Mary Hurling at its most dangerous

Lisbellaw must be bad as there's certainly no angels playing up on the whiterock the last time I was there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2010, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: rolloutking on October 03, 2010, 02:13:18 AM
QuoteSt John's v Lisbellaw St Patrick's

Hail Mary Hurling at its most dangerous

Lisbellaw must be bad as there's certainly no angels playing up on the whiterock the last time I was there.

At least they have found their level, didnt want to play up to the Senior Championship, took that handy route and now are turning their nose up at the standard they face!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2010, 12:20:57 PM
St Johns players HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
How are they doing that NAG? You been talking to some of them...

Seemed a bit of knocking of Lisbellaw turned into a victimise St Johns match here...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2010, 02:02:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2010, 11:00:47 PM
Ulster Club Intermediate Hurling Championship 2010
Semi Final
Sunday 10th October - 1 45 PM
Casement Park

St John's v Lisbellaw St Patrick's



question; Is this a 'home' game for the Johnnies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2010, 02:40:29 PM
Steady tommy! not biting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2010, 02:52:29 PM
Im not knocking either club just commenting on the attitude of some of the people I had been talking to about this particular game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on October 05, 2010, 11:21:01 PM
any word on how cloughmills got on at the weekend?

I see from aa route finder ireland they had some journey to make to deepest Cavan.

I wonder did they make it home yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2010, 09:44:21 AM
Mullahoran St Josephs(Cavan) 2-02 Cloughmills St Brigids(Antrim) 4-14

They play again this Sunday in Dungannon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 06, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
The Cavan team had 3 men sent off. Cloughmills will have a tougher task this Sunday against a Donegal team but hopefully will come through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2010, 09:39:25 PM
With Division one already sorted the div 2 league relegation battle is seriously hotting up. we are still bottom with two games to go!!! If we don't win we are playing div 3 next year.

Anyone from 6 teams could end up be relegated so the next 3 weeks will decide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Maybe you shouldn't have been sacked after all Milltown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2010, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Maybe you shouldn't have been sacked after all Milltown.

Will you make yourself available next year?

Very competitive league, Ballycastle will find that out next year ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 06, 2010, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 06, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
The Cavan team had 3 men sent off. Cloughmills will have a tougher task this Sunday against a Donegal team but hopefully will come through.

very tough match here for Cloughmills. Mac Cumhaills dumped Setanta and Burt out on way to Donegal Senior C'ships.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2010, 10:13:10 PM
Honestly?? Antrim teams should really be beating a Donegal senior team (no offence) Cloughmills are decent enough and i wish them well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 06, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2010, 10:13:10 PM
Honestly?? Antrim teams should really be beating a Donegal senior team (no offence) Cloughmills are decent enough and i wish them well
I do think cloughmills will win but it wont be easy. Cloughmills are junior in Antrim-maybe lower end Intermediate and  Donegal senior champions will compete at this level. dont forget Naomh Colmcille(Tyrone Team) beat Rasharkin in final last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 07, 2010, 10:45:46 AM
Any predictions for the Ulster Semis this weekend? 

I'll go for Loughgiel by 6 and Keady by 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2010, 01:36:56 PM
Loughgeil at a canter.

Wee Graham will be doing well to keep the ball pucked out.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2010, 04:21:53 PM
Aye no need to turn up for that one Johnny, might to that game, what time is it at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2010, 04:41:07 PM
3.30PM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Red Hurley on October 07, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
Keady by 10 and will give Shamrocks their fill of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 07, 2010, 11:29:35 PM
Jesus, lads, by the time we get to the Kilkenny game, we'll have such a head of steam up that they'll hardly be able for us . . no ? ? . .  anyone ? ? . . anyone? ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2010, 06:46:33 PM
Pretty straightforward for the Shamrocks today, Ballygalget were awful in fairness. Should be a one sided final against Keady in a couple of weeks. Pretty poor crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Was a poor enough match, Ballygalget seemed pyhsically small all over (bar magic) the ball never came into the big man and when it did he was too far out and his first touch was woeful if truth be known.

Keady winning not much of a shock, some boys on here fancied it, had a flutter on it also at 7/4 good value.

St Johns made hard work of it in the first half but duffed them handy in the second half. (wasn't at it)

When is the final?

Oh heard that there is some serious horse trading going on at the minute, should know better when the season ends on the 24th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 11, 2010, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Was a poor enough match, Ballygalget seemed pyhsically small all over (bar magic) the ball never came into the big man and when it did he was too far out and his first touch was woeful if truth be known.

Keady winning not much of a shock, some boys on here fancied it, had a flutter on it also at 7/4 good value.

St Johns made hard work of it in the first half but duffed them handy in the second half. (wasn't at it)

When is the final?

Oh heard that there is some serious horse trading going on at the minute, should know better when the season ends on the 24th

We'd a poor day yesterday, never really got going and allowed Loughgeil too much time and space to play the type of hurling they wanted to play.
In my experience you need to be up the arse of the Loughgeil lads to put them under the type of pressure to prevent the nice flicks and passes that they like to do. We never did that and paid the price.
There's not too many of our lads had a good hour, some played in spells but not enough to really trouble Loughgeil. We'd a young lad in the corner who hadn't the confidence to play a few yards out in front of the corner forward,especailly when facing a free, and as there was an acre of space was always going to be second to the ball which didn't need to be that good. His confidence was gone long before the game was over. No one seemed to be talking and advising the lad during the game which worries me most.
Route one to Magic is all great and good but he's no miracle worker and even when he did win the ball can't beat three or four every time. We'd three other forwards who didn't touch much leather the whole game and that isn't good enough. Our bench is too weak, two lads out with broken hands and the game was 6 months early for Gabriel Clarke who was brought on after missing over a years hurling through a bad leg break. We'll need to blood another few minors next year and hope they come up trumps.

I was impressed with some of the Loughgeil defending in particular the No 7 and McGarry the fullback is exactly the type of character you need in there, not the prettiest but effective.
Watson is definately buggered by his knee and won't be any use against better teams unless he gets it sorted.
We're certainly not a big team, but neither are Loughgeil so when the pitches are heavier I'm not sure how they'll cope.

I can't see Keady bothering them too much but they're there on merit and certainly they'll give it a go.

Was there no programs yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 11, 2010, 01:58:16 PM
JC there were programmes but I guess you had to be in early to get them.  Not much on them an A4 page with teams and ulster coucil fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 12, 2010, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Was a poor enough match, Ballygalget seemed pyhsically small all over (bar magic) the ball never came into the big man and when it did he was too far out and his first touch was woeful if truth be known.

Keady winning not much of a shock, some boys on here fancied it, had a flutter on it also at 7/4 good value.

St Johns made hard work of it in the first half but duffed them handy in the second half. (wasn't at it)

When is the final?

Oh heard that there is some serious horse trading going on at the minute, should know better when the season ends on the 24th


The Senior final is on 24th October.  I assume the intermediate is on the same day but could be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
Yes just heard its on the same day as the senior. Casement?? Though we played our final in Newry last year against the Tyrone Champions.

Carrickmore have their football final on the same day!! not too many play both but will cause a lot of supporters to attend the football final instead i'd imagine.

Which begs the question, is the Gaa looking after the dual clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: KIDDO 4 on October 12, 2010, 01:11:44 PM
Carrickmore have yet to reach the football final , replaySat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 12, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Anyone heard about the craic up in Dunloy regarding their Centre of Excellence?  I've heard a certain organisation have requested to use it which has caused some debate within the club!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2010, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 12, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Anyone heard about the craic up in Dunloy regarding their Centre of Excellence?  I've heard a certain organisation have requested to use it which has caused some debate within the club!

Sure the shamrocks have been on it already, for some Dunlodians that's as bad as it can get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on October 12, 2010, 03:06:10 PM
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New Antrim Coaching & Games Website Launched
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 12, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
What have you heard then pdiddy? half a story  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 12, 2010, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 12, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
What have you heard then pdiddy? half a story  ;)

Yeah, to be honest I did only hear half a story. I'd heard the local Constabulary wanted to use it  :o.  I thought perhaps Max or Skull could give us the low down. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2010, 08:44:26 AM
To be fair, I think the way that they raised the funding for that building means they have total control of who uses their facilties unlike the one in Lavey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 13, 2010, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2010, 08:44:26 AM
To be fair, I think the way that they raised the funding for that building means they have total control of who uses their facilties unlike the one in Lavey.

Yeah totally agree.  It's up to Dunloy who they let use their facilities as it wasn't funded as a cross community venture. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 13, 2010, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 13, 2010, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2010, 08:44:26 AM
To be fair, I think the way that they raised the funding for that building means they have total control of who uses their facilties unlike the one in Lavey.

Yeah totally agree.  It's up to Dunloy who they let use their facilities as it wasn't funded as a cross community venture.

So dunloy didn't apply for lottery funding or local government grants at all?

Fair play to them for raising that sort of money without all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: UGAAWA on October 13, 2010, 11:52:12 PM
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There is plenty to celebrate this year with Down's run to the All-Ireland SFC final, Tyrone lifting the minor title, Antrim's hurlers regaining their place amongst the sport's big guns, St Galls' march to All Ireland glory, the ladies of Tyrone and Donegal on the All Ireland stage, Paul Brady continuing to set the world handball benchmark and the Saffron camógs' All Ireland among the Ulster success stories.

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 14, 2010, 10:01:44 AM
i don't think the PSNI where looking to use the facility, merely they were promoting a cross community sporting event and the club possibly felt it would be better if there weren't actually at the event.

Club did have a small grant from SportsNI, it would have been much larger had they set it up on a community ownership basis ala Lavey and most others, but the Club felt it was important to retain full ownership, a decision i think will prove prudent in years to come,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 14, 2010, 11:31:30 AM
Being awarded a grant from SportNI (no matter how small) immediately puts any GAA club in a bind about not allowing the facilities to be used by 'other sports'.  A condition of award for SportNI grants is that the facilities are used to promote participation and are available to the whole community.  The sooner the GAA cop on, and realise that in the North ALL grant aid from public bodies comes with a similar stipulation, the better. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2010, 10:47:54 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 14, 2010, 11:31:30 AM
Being awarded a grant from SportNI (no matter how small) immediately puts any GAA club in a bind about not allowing the facilities to be used by 'other sports'.  A condition of award for SportNI grants is that the facilities are used to promote participation and are available to the whole community.  The sooner the GAA cop on, and realise that in the North ALL grant aid from public bodies comes with a similar stipulation, the better. 

I can tell you thats a load of balls. No public body has us over a barrell because they gave us a small grant. Dunloy GAC have full control of their facilities. They also understand the importance in promoting participation so don't be too concerned about the bind we're in because we're not in one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 16, 2010, 07:30:19 PM
Anybody know the Reserve Cup scores?

C'Dall trounced the Town  but what was the L'giel v Ballycran result?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2010, 11:07:19 AM
Seems its fixed for next weekend. Whats the rumours doing the rounds regarding the restructuring of the leagues? We are bottom of div 2 and if we are bottom at 4*00pm next week we'll be playing div 3 hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 17, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
If the rumours are right you'll not be in Div 3 and neither the Town nor Rossa will be in Div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 17, 2010, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 16, 2010, 07:30:19 PM
Anybody know the Reserve Cup scores?

C'Dall trounced the Town  but what was the L'giel v Ballycran result?

Loughgiel won by a pt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 17, 2010, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 17, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
If the rumours are right you'll not be in Div 3 and neither the Town nor Rossa will be in Div 2
How does Des do it? He must have some right juicy stuff in his black book just in case the town ever find themselves in the merde!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 17, 2010, 06:39:30 PM
Lads i'm going to bet that the horse-trading will fail to make a difference, and Ballycastle will take their rightful place in Div 2 in 2011.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
Well they won't be asking us to support their trading. it was their proposal that got us out of div 1 a few years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 18, 2010, 01:57:44 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 17, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
If the rumours are right you'll not be in Div 3 and neither the Town nor Rossa will be in Div 2

Care to but some meat on the bones of these rumours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2010, 03:08:16 PM
Apparently the word is that the we are going from an 8 Team top tier to a 12.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 18, 2010, 03:56:06 PM
Where has the proposal come from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2010, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 18, 2010, 03:56:06 PM
Where has the proposal come from?

Up north ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 18, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 18, 2010, 03:08:16 PM
Apparently the word is that the we are going from an 8 Team top tier to a 12.

One way I presume, making 11 games in a year. Is that enough??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
11 meaningful games with championship and relegation at stake. In Galway thats how it works. The league placings decide who you play. Top four into 1/4 finals. Only problem is we dont have enough teams playing senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 18, 2010, 07:03:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
Well they won't be asking us to support their trading. it was their proposal that got us out of div 1 a few years ago.

I haven't spoken to anyone in the Town who is in any way enthusiastic about this.  many say Div 2 is where we should be.

I hear the proposals come not from B'castle but from a div 3 club (among others) who might benefit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2010, 10:35:44 PM
C'mills Glenarm? I can see someone else putting forward a motion with the towns finger prints all over it.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 19, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
11 meaningful games with championship and relegation at stake. In Galway thats how it works. The league placings decide who you play. Top four into 1/4 finals. Only problem is we dont have enough teams playing senior.

So bringing up St Johns, Rossa, Clooney Gaels and Carey Faughs looks like being the option.

That'll make 9 Antrim teams vying for the senior championship or can some of the lesser opt for intermediate?

Say for talks sake, top two antrim teams go straight to Semi-final stage, next two to the quarter finals with the team in 5th playing the team in 8th, 6th playing 7th, for the right of a quarter final slot and so on like the Leinster championship.
Most teams would consider that they've a chance of having at least one game they could win before having a game against better opposition.

Possibly workable, but I'd be concerned that mid table teams would want to win intermediate rather than have a crack at the senior championship.
I can also see a few tankings during the league phase all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 10:35:57 AM
Ceratinly somthing needs to be done as as far as I can remember this has been the poorest year by far in terms of regular matches etc and for once we cant blame the county manager for this. Granted there was very little hurling done around the time the County team we playing but this was a decision taken before the season started.

Maybe we are looking back to the past with Rose tinted glasses, but what happened to the sundays of hurling when both teams played a senior and senior reserve match. Has this notion gone away?

Right time for realistic ideas to revamp the league and get competitive games back on the agenda from May-August in the run up to the Championship in August - September......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 19, 2010, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 10:35:57 AM
Ceratinly somthing needs to be done as as far as I can remember this has been the poorest year by far in terms of regular matches etc and for once we cant blame the county manager for this. Granted there was very little hurling done around the time the County team we playing but this was a decision taken before the season started.

Maybe we are looking back to the past with Rose tinted glasses, but what happened to the sundays of hurling when both teams played a senior and senior reserve match. Has this notion gone away?

Right time for realistic ideas to revamp the league and get competitive games back on the agenda from May-August in the run up to the Championship in August - September......

I thought this years league was a lot better run out than previous years tbh.

The senior and reserve on the sunday was ideal but there's a lot less sundays now due to more intercounty games with Leinster/Ulster/Christy Ring/AI qualifiers etc. I know some of these are played on saturdays but is it fair on club teams with a big county contingent to play a league game the day after an intercounty game down the country when that league game could have a baring on championship ceedings??

It's not an easy balance to strike.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2010, 11:00:28 AM
People who talk about something needing to be done should think about that statement before they say it

Are there any Sarsfields men on here who can tell us all what it felt like when they got into Div 1 a few years back and were totally out of their depth? Tankings help nobody.


Personally think the setup of the leagues are correct. Good compeditive matches in Div1 and a number of challengers at the top of Div 2.
Thought that some high profile fixtures should have been played at more appropriate times of the year
We played the dall last week in a totally meaningless league game
Still have to play LG
Now would playing those games earlier in the season not raise the profile of the leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 11:02:16 AM
Skull I have my opinions on it but was wanting to see what the wider views were on the issue.

Totally agree the bigger games need to be promoted and kept for a decent time of the year which are beneficial to the clubs playing and are attractive to people to come and watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 19, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
Didnt see much wrong with the leagues this season - those 'big games' you are referring to were originally supposed to have been played much earlier in the season - so what you are saying about playing them earlier must have been considered but due to whatever reason the clubs postponed them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 19, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
Didnt see much wrong with the leagues this season - those 'big games' you are referring to were originally supposed to have been played much earlier in the season - so what you are saying about playing them earlier must have been considered but due to whatever reason the clubs postponed them.

Stag do's I'd say  ::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2010, 12:14:00 PM
the leagues were fine, its the championships that need fixing. thats why we need to have the leagues incorporated into the championship.

With two up two down for relegation and promotion.

Sarsfields did take some hammering's but so did St Galls when we had a run at div one. But we learned over two years and managed to stay up and become competitive with established teams.

This was until the 'Towns' ideas of having 8 team leagues got us kicked out on score difference!!! I'm not bitter just looking forward to Ballycastle coming to Milltown row next year ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2010, 12:29:26 PM
I thought division 1 was good this year. The majority of matches were played before the end of the championship which was very good. There wouldn't be a discussion over this if Glenariffe had got relegated. The best league we had in years & people want them changed. The only time fixtures really stopped was when the county played Carlow, Dublin & Cork in consecutive weeks I think(and the feis final was played after the Carlow match)

I see Jerry Wallis has quit Antrim which is a huge blow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 19, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2010, 12:29:26 PM

I see Jerry Wallis has quit Antrim which is a huge blow.

Ach shite. Where did you hear/read that, Two Hands??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on October 19, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2010, 12:29:26 PM

I see Jerry Wallis has quit Antrim which is a huge blow.

Ach shite. Where did you hear/read that, Two Hands??
Read it on hoganstand. Must have been in one of today's newspapers. Big blow to Dinny but you can't blame Wallis as it is a massive commitment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 19, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 19, 2010, 11:00:28 AM
People who talk about something needing to be done should think about that statement before they say it

Are there any Sarsfields men on here who can tell us all what it felt like when they got into Div 1 a few years back and were totally out of their depth? Tankings help nobody.


Personally think the setup of the leagues are correct. Good compeditive matches in Div1 and a number of challengers at the top of Div 2.
Thought that some high profile fixtures should have been played at more appropriate times of the year
We played the dall last week in a totally meaningless league game
Still have to play LG
Now would playing those games earlier in the season not raise the profile of the leagues?

Couldn't agree with you more Skull and as I've said on this forum previously the 3 games Dunloy didn't get to play prior to the Championship were Loughgiel, Cushendall and Ballycran.  These type of fixtures need to be given top billing for the leage to gain any credibility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
So the league was great this year despite the 3 top teams not playing twice and the best team last year from the co Down not playing them either?

Something to me does not add up there?

Great league for those that survived or who had a few meaningless wins, I am talking about a total competitive league that runs like clockwork and everyone knows when it is happening etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2010, 04:10:58 PM
They have been good, better than previous but changing them now would be a disaster. Sure a wee tweak could help but it's not easy to organise especially if you have dual clubs involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 19, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
So the league was great this year despite the 3 top teams not playing twice and the best team last year from the co Down not playing them either?

Something to me does not add up there?

Great league for those that survived or who had a few meaningless wins, I am talking about a total competitive league that runs like clockwork and everyone knows when it is happening etc

Nobody said it was great but it certainly was better run off this year than previous years where you'd have fixtures right into November and sometimes beyond where more often than not one team or both have been knocked out of the championship and not training and the games are less than useless.
I don't know of the specifics of the Dunloy games bottleneck but I think they were the only ones with three or more games outstanding after the championship was run.

Trapsing up to Glenariffe or Ballycastle midweek certainly isn't ideal and I'm sure they'd say the same about coming down to us but there's no way you'll find 14 free sundays in a given year to run it off like clockwork.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
The leagues need to be competitive, played with intensity and a purpose come the championship, be it going directly to the 1/4 finals or semi final if your a top 4 finish in the league and if you lose in round one you're relegated (this being that teams playing in round one will be at the lower end of the league)

Club players are at fault sometimes also and the county can't take the blame all the time :o. Players don't seem to be interested in playing meaningless league games and so the standard drops. Its time we tried something new. As long as Ballycastle play div 2 next year that is ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
So the league was great this year despite the 3 top teams not playing twice and the best team last year from the co Down not playing them either?

Something to me does not add up there?

I made two very seperate statements NAG which do not contridict other. Me thinks you've got the blinkers on at the minute.  :D

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 20, 2010, 12:01:47 AM
This debate over league structures is not a new one. It raises its head regularly becasue in Antrim we simply do not have enough senior clubs. Over the last 30 or so years there has been more or less 6 consistently senior clubs, B'castle, C'dall, Dunloy, L'giel, Rossa and St Johns. At various stages other clubs have stepped up for periods. At the minute you have G'riffe, before them there was C'dun, St Galls and Lamh Dearg. You have also had Gort na Mona, Sarsfields and St Pauls at different times. Until you get 3 or 4 of these clubs "turned" in to senior clubs over a sustained period we are always going to have challenges with our league structures and championship.

One thing for sure the Antrim leagues need the Down teams and i got annoyed this year when i heard or read people say we cant have a Div 1 with no Belfast teams in it (and you can add Ballycastle in to that bracket next year) but yet there are 3 Down teams. The Antrim teams, North and South, need to get their own house in order first and foremost and forget about getting rid of the Ards teams.

As for Div 1 this year i thought it was very competitive and fair play to the County and the clubs for having it done and dusted by mid September. However the downside of that is means a lot more mid week games which probably has an effect on gates which are vital to clubs but there are just not enough free "summer" Sunday's in the year to get games played. Remember the reason we all used to go to club games on Sundays (well those of us old enough to remember them) was that up until 1989 there was no Ulster Championship. Then from the mid 90's you had the advent of the Back door and then a qualifer system and now a Christy Ring Cup in the mix too. Unless there is a drastic cut back in inter county competitions we won't see many Sunday afternoon club games in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2010, 07:31:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
. As long as Ballycastle play div 2 next year that is ;)

It's where they should be but you should set your sights a little higher Milltown Row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2010, 08:55:47 AM
Skull I was actually agreeing with you, just taking it to the edge. I take on board that it may have been better than previous years, but my point still stands that if the three top teams are playing against each other in dead rubbers at the end of the season when no one cares how can it be described as a decent league?

Granted if these games are looked at and played in the summer when the teams are fit and will actually get something out the game then I wouldnt have an issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2010, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2010, 08:55:47 AM
Skull I was actually agreeing with you, just taking it to the edge. I take on board that it may have been better than previous years, but my point still stands that if the three top teams are playing against each other in dead rubbers at the end of the season when no one cares how can it be described as a decent league?

Two separate issues NAG

1. The structure/makeup of the leagues
2. The timing of the fixtures especially the high profile matches

I said point 1 was decent and point 2 wasn't. Point 2 can be addressed on its own without needing point 1 looked at. Wheres the confusion here?

Agree with that post Fairhead particularly the points about intercounty (i.e the money spinning part of the GAA). Senior club matches just get shoe horned in and slowly but surely it strips away at the integrity of the local game. With no routine people have developed other interests on summer weekends that don't involve attending GAA matches (the pub and golf come to mind). Changing levels of affluence play a big part of that as well. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2010, 10:10:26 AM
Skull, dont you think that they are one in the same point or at least very closely linked?

Structure of the leagues would lead to better timing of fixtures esp the high profile matches therefore increasing the amount of people attending increase in interest and hopefully increase in competitiveness?

The thing is we are kind of forcing the people away from the games and that includes players by the lack of 'competitive' games at appropriate times of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2010, 10:10:26 AM
Skull, dont you not think that they are one in the same point or at least very closely linked?

Structure of the leagues would lead to better timing of fixtures esp the high profile matches therefore increasing the amount of people attending increase in interest and hopefully increase in competitiveness?

The thing is we are kind of forcing the people away from the games and that includes players by the lack of 'competitive' games at appropriate times of the year.

Not really NAG....what am I missing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
If the leagues are structured better and more carefully (point 1), the games will therefore be played at the right time of the year and the teams will be competitive and not playing dead rubber games. (point 2) Hence the are a more attractive prospect to the golf or pub brigade to go watch, therefore hopefully increasing the standard and the attendance in the same go?

No?  ???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 20, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
This list of fixtures was sent to all clubs at the start of the year as schedule for Div 1 - what would you do differently that would mean the big crowd-pulling games weren't postponed - as they were this year?

Round 1   21/04/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballycastle
Glenariffe    v    Ballygalget
Ballycran    v    Portaferry
Cushendall    v    Loughgiel

Round 2   25/04/2010   
Portaferry    v    Dunloy
Loughgiel    v    Ballygalget
Cushendall    v    Ballycastle
Ballycran    v    Glenariffe
      
Round 3   08/05/2010   
Dunloy    v    Loughgiel
Portaferry    v    Cushendall
Ballygalget    v    Ballycran
Ballycastle    v    Glenariffe

Round 4   12/05/2010   
Cushendall    v    Dunloy
Ballycran    v    Loughgiel
Glenariffe    v    Portaferry
Ballycastle    v    Ballygalget
      
Round 5   23/05/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballygalget
Ballycastle    v    Portaferry
Glenariffe    v    Loughgiel
Ballycran    v    Cushendall

Round 6   06/06/2010   
Glenariffe    v    Dunloy
Ballycastle    v    Ballycran
Ballygalget    v    Cushendall
Portaferry    v    Loughgiel
      
Round 7   13/06/2010   
Dunloy    v    Ballycran
Cushendall    v    Glenariffe
Loughgiel    v    Ballycastle
Portaferry    v    Ballygalget

Round 8   20/06/2010   
Ballycastle    v    Dunloy
Ballygalget    v    Glenariffe
Portaferry    v    Ballycran
Loughgiel    v    Cushendall
      
Round 9   07/07/2010   
Dunloy    v    Portaferry
Ballygalget    v    Loughgiel
Ballycastle    v    Cushendall
Glenariffe    v    Ballycran

Round 10   11/07/2010   
Loughgiel    v    Dunloy
Cushendall    v    Portaferry
Ballycran    v    Ballygalget
Glenariffe    v    Ballycastle
      
Round 11   18/07/2010   
Dunloy    v    Cushendall
Loughgiel    v    Ballycran
Portaferry    v    Glenariffe
Ballygalget    v    Ballycastle

Round 12   04/08/2010   
Ballygalget    v    Dunloy
Portaferry    v    Ballycastle
Loughgiel    v    Glenariffe
Cushendall    v    Ballycran
      
Round 13   08/08/2010   
Dunloy    v    Glenariffe
Ballycran    v    Ballycastle
Cushendall    v    Ballygalget
Loughgiel    v    Portaferry

Round 14   22/08/2010   
Ballycran    v    Dunloy
Glenariffe    v    Cushendall
Ballycastle    v    Loughgiel
Ballygalget    v    Portaferry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2010, 04:12:37 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2010, 07:31:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2010, 04:22:03 PM
. As long as Ballycastle play div 2 next year that is ;)

It's where they should be but you should set your sights a little higher Milltown Row

My digs at Ballycastle BlackandAmber are just that, I've a lot of respect for the Castle and watch them for years and when they were at their height (early 80's) they were unlucky not to win an All Ireland or 2.

My grievance with Ballycastle was the last change of the structures which dropped us and the way it was done.

I think 8 team leagues should be the way, anymore would make it less competitive. The second bottom team should play off with the second top team in Div 2 would certainly push teams all year.

I've put this format or similar to our committee every year but nothing ever comes of it when put to county convention. Me thinks that senior clubs are happy with only one team going down so will only do enough to stay up by beating the weakest twice and take a few points elsewhere.

In Football two up two down has went on for years!!

Oh and by the way lads i can't post on the Antrim Webshite as they wont post any of my posts!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2010, 05:42:17 PM
Of those fixtures highlighted........
21/4/10  Wednesday

8/5/10   Saturday

12/5/10  Wednesday

the next 3 were Sundays

It's the irregularity of fixtures  that discourages spectators and possibly players too

fixtures have been played on just about every day of the week and something needs to be sorted out about that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Fair enough Milltown Row.

That seems like a good idea too.  The structure needs something done - but not this year  :)

I don't think the Town will cruise out of Div 2 so a year in it, a restructure to get them out of it and then maybe they'll not be so keen to go back to it  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2010, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 20, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
This list of fixtures was sent to all clubs at the start of the year as schedule for Div 1 - what would you do differently that would mean the big crowd-pulling games weren't postponed - as they were this year?
      
Round 3   08/05/2010   
Dunloy    v    Loughgiel   Football match played on this date

Saturday 8th May 2010
Antrim Div 2 Football
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Davitts    3-10   2-3   Dunloy    Davitts   Round 5   


Round 4   12/05/2010   
Cushendall    v    Dunloy     Played on Tuesday 11th so that Football Match could get played on the 12th (8 dual players)

Tuesday 11th May 2010
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Cushendall    3-12   2-14   Dunloy    Cushendall   Round 4
      
Round 10   11/07/2010   
Loughgiel    v    Dunloy  Football match played on this date

Sunday 11th July 2010   
Antrim Div 2 Football
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Dunloy    1-8   2-11   Rossa    Dunloy   Round 13

      
Round 11   18/07/2010   
Dunloy    v    Cushendall  Reserve Match played but Antrim played Dublin the night before and then prepared for Cork

Saturday 17th July 2010
All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Antrim    1-17   0-19   Dublin       Phase 3

Sunday 18th July 2010
Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Dunloy    6-15   2-10   Cushendall    Dunloy   Round 11   

Heres why the Dunloy hurling fixtures didn't take place aontriom

Condensing of fixtures at club senior level because of all the intercounty commitments is the reason why these fixtures don't happen when they are supposed to. The GAA has no respect for dual players anymore when you see what they are expected to do between april and august
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2010, 06:25:19 PM
Skull was that match due to be played against C'dall on 18th July not moved to the following weekend 24th July for the opening of your indoor hall but had to be cancelled as Antrim beat Dublin on the 17th to qualify to play Cork on the 25th. Not much that can be done about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2010, 07:30:07 PM
Yes the back door qualifiers has certainly had an impact on the leauges and clubs. So whats the answer? Leagues start two weeks earlier, Ulster hurling league finish before leagues and tighter control on games being called off. To be fair its very hard to get a game off now unless it involves the county team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 21, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
 The Div 1 League fixtures consisted of 9 Sundays 4 Wednesdays and 1 sat. Now if anyone tell me that's not much better than previous years there mad. The Cork match affected one fixture. I know our lads were made play one match after the championship final not ideal, as our fixtures were due to finish on 22nd Aug against Oisins and although we didn't want to play it, as we played the Semi the following Sun we did. Ruairi 0g were delighted with the league this year, OK before anyone says it we didn't win it but it was competitive. Loughgiel hadn't the league won until mid Aug. Relegation wasn't done and dusted until the last set of fixtures with three teams involved, what more do people want.  As for regular games it was as good as it possibly could be and remember three Sunday match in a row in June was great. The fact that their were no duel club made it much easier, but i think the jonnies will help the league IF they put an effort in, Div 2 again will be a cracker also with 3/4 teams serious contenders for promotion, is that not good for our leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2010, 12:06:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2010, 07:30:07 PM
Yes the back door qualifiers has certainly had an impact on the leauges and clubs. So whats the answer? Leagues start two weeks earlier, Ulster hurling league finish before leagues and tighter control on games being called off. To be fair its very hard to get a game off now unless it involves the county team

Or player burnout  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 21, 2010, 10:59:43 PM
Well said jamesh apart from the dual clubs - not a lot wrong with the leagues. Maybe a bit more effort into playing the likes of lgiel and dunloy at a reasonable time of year. We missed a good gate because it wasn't played.  Compared with other years it was very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 22, 2010, 12:46:51 PM
In fairness Wino Cushendall had played Loughgiel twice and Dunloy once by the start of July, and would have played Dunloy in July but it was moved due to a county fixture. I would say Both loughgiel/Dunloy are and have been avoiding the fixture to save any hassle which while not right , i can understand. Our best match was down in the Ards against Ballycran on a  Tuesday night, they were flying at the time and we had 25 players that night more than any other fixture since. What I'm saying is we had to travel out of North Antrim only once midweek it was a lot of organising at time but was a big success as the match was of the highest quality( won By 3), so the league was great. Add in the Johnnies its possibly another trip which wouldn't be a problem for most as half the players from each club either study or work in Belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
General concensus is that the league this past few years have been a success

I think milltowns suggestion of second bottom playing off with second place is one worth considering. Rossa for instance may have held their season together better after the championship if they knew they had such a fixture coming in at the end of the season. Anything that can make every training session and game worth something has to seen as a positive move for the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 22, 2010, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
General concensus is that the league this past few years have been a success

I think milltowns suggestion of second bottom playing off with second place is one worth considering. Rossa for instance may have held their season together better after the championship if they knew they had such a fixture coming in at the end of the season. Anything that can make every training session and game worth something has to seen as a positive move for the game

I'd be in agreement with that as well, but I think his league positions having a bearing on championship positions may also be worth considering but us Down hoors spoil that party a bit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
Anyone know if Cloghmills won?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on October 24, 2010, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
Anyone know if Cloghmills won?
Lost by 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on October 24, 2010, 07:01:10 PM
Lost by 2 points

Cheers.

Pity - two years in a row antrim clubs beat in tight junior finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
well here we are, at start of year who would of said loughgiel shamrocks would be antrim and ulster champions,  beat dunloy handy, edged c,dall in a hard game which the backs on both sides were exceptional. beat two bad sides in ulster semi and final, now sitting in an all Ireland semi final, they will prob break for a month or six weeks, and give who ever wins leinster a right game,  who knows, the sleeping giants might have finally awakened ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Any reports on the Loughgiel game today?

Loughgiel to me have better forwards than Cushendall and players like Watson etc can put teams away. Cushendall may have been run close by Ballygalget / Dungiven over the last few years but if they'd put away their chances the games wouldn't have been tight at all. With that being said I expected Loughgiel to win ulster without too much hassle. Portaferry may have given them a run mind...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 25, 2010, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Any reports on the Loughgiel game today?

Loughgiel to me have better forwards than Cushendall and players like Watson etc can put teams away. Cushendall may have been run close by Ballygalget / Dungiven over the last few years but if they'd put away their chances the games wouldn't have been tight at all. With that being said I expected Loughgiel to win ulster without too much hassle. Portaferry may have given them a run mind...

Pretty random choice there! Why not Ballycastle?

Was there a bit of bad blood between Keady and the Bodies yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 25, 2010, 09:24:25 AM
Was not at the match yesterday but it is obvious that Keady are not up to this standard yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2010, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 25, 2010, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:40:17 PM
Any reports on the Loughgiel game today?

Loughgiel to me have better forwards than Cushendall and players like Watson etc can put teams away. Cushendall may have been run close by Ballygalget / Dungiven over the last few years but if they'd put away their chances the games wouldn't have been tight at all. With that being said I expected Loughgiel to win ulster without too much hassle. Portaferry may have given them a run mind...

Pretty random choice there! Why not Ballycastle?

Was there a bit of bad blood between Keady and the Bodies yesterday?

Talking Down clubs JC. The stories I heard were that Balygalget not the best team in Down and hard to explain how they won the down championship. Portaferry rumoured to be the best. Derry teams obviously not up to it so the assumption would be that the best Down team, on paper, may give Loughgiel a game.

Anyway, not important and not having a go at Ballygalget. Well done the bodies.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 25, 2010, 11:34:23 AM
Portaferry rumoured to be the best

And there lies Portaferry's biggest problem, if they half as good as they thought they were then they wouldn't be staring into their fifth year without a Down championship.

IMO we're currently not a good team but we're improving and lack strength in depth which told against Loughgeil with too many injuries leaving us weak on the pitch and nothing on the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 25, 2010, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 25, 2010, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:40:17 PM


Was there a bit of bad blood between Keady and the Bodies yesterday?

Watson was the recipient of a lot of attention from the Keady backs from the start, mostly while the ball was at the other end of the field. To his credit, Watson didn't really react  - I would guess he was giving plenty of verbals back but did not get drawn into anything further.

As a result, it seemed that Loughgiel were not very inclined to take their foot off the pedal as they pulled away through the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 25, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2010, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on October 24, 2010, 07:01:10 PM
Lost by 2 points

Cheers.

Pity - two years in a row antrim clubs beat in tight junior finals.

Cloughmills had a chance to level it going into injury time, missed it and the other side went down the field for the final point. To be honest, it would have been a bit of an injustice to Inniskeen if Cmills had managed to snipe a draw or even a win - they played the better hurling over the 60 minutes.

Too many of Cloughmills' main players either didn't have (or mayble weren't let have) good games - they can be very dependent on Smiley, Laverty, Smith, Devlin and Kearns and can struggle a little when some or all of them have off games. Furthermore, all of the above are very young and, with the exception of Smiley, slightly built. Cmills struggled under both puc outs, which put their defense under a fair degree of pressure.

On a side note (and it certainly didn't affect the outcome), I thought the ref was a bit over officious and could easily have let the game go a bit more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
Surprising result. Thought Cloughmills would have had a lot more to them. Seems Junior hurling is not as strong as i thought. I know they are playing 'senior' clubs but they should still win
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 25, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
Surprising result. Thought Cloughmills would have had a lot more to them. Seems Junior hurling is not as strong as i thought. I know they are playing 'senior' clubs but they should still win

what people dont consider at this level is that a team from Monaghan/Donegal etc will not only be their senior champs but a lot of their players will be playing intercounty. Antrim junior is not as strong as people think because Antrim have a proper system where the winners get promoted. This leaves weaker teams behind for the next year. I can almost gaurantee that the Antrim junior champs wont win Ulster next year again. The winner will come from Donegal/Derry or Monaghan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2010, 11:24:27 PM
I'd have thought donegal,monaghan or tyrone. Derry don't even have a junior.

Just reading Keady only scored 1 from play yesterday. Doesn't sound good for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 26, 2010, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 25, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
Surprising result. Thought Cloughmills would have had a lot more to them. Seems Junior hurling is not as strong as i thought. I know they are playing 'senior' clubs but they should still win

what people dont consider at this level is that a team from Monaghan/Donegal etc will not only be their senior champs but a lot of their players will be playing intercounty. Antrim junior is not as strong as people think because Antrim have a proper system where the winners get promoted. This leaves weaker teams behind for the next year. I can almost gaurantee that the Antrim junior champs wont win Ulster next year again. The winner will come from Donegal/Derry or Monaghan.


Sure Cloughmills had three county players this year.....
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2010, 01:28:27 PM
St Johns will have to put in a better first half performance than they did against the Fermanagh champions. Gorts played Carrickmore over two games last time (though the referee got the score wrong :o) and was tight enough.

not a lot of players from Carrickmore play both, for those that do its a golden opportunity to play in two finals in both codes.


I predict a 8/9 point win for the Johnnies, with B McFaul getting the lions share of the scores, he is faster than any player in the county at the minute, he won the 'HUMAN RACE' at the dogs for the Club Antrim fundraiser
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Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
With Tyrone a close second and Tony third :)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2010, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 26, 2010, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2010, 01:28:27 PM
St Johns will have to put in a better first half performance than they did against the Fermanagh champions. Gorts played Carrickmore over two games last time (though the referee got the score wrong :o) and was tight enough.

I know not too many players play both but its a golden opportunity for the club.


I predict a 8/9 point win for the Johnnies, with B McFaul getting the lions share of the scores, he is faster than any player in the county at the minute, he won the 'HUMAN RACE' at the dogs for the Club Antrim fundraiser
???

It give me a sore head after reading that back ;D fixed it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2010, 08:29:08 PM
yes i know, county football final and Ulster club. is that match on this Sunday? Casement?

I'll be in Cross, O Donnells playing first, so will be in boozer. you heading down Hardstation?
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Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 26, 2010, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2010, 11:24:27 PM
I'd have thought donegal,monaghan or tyrone. Derry don't even have a junior.

Just reading Keady only scored 1 from play yesterday. Doesn't sound good for them.
Derry do have junior-Eoghan Rua (Coleraine) and Na Magha. Eoghan Rua could won this if their footballers play and Na Magha are well able too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 26, 2010, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 26, 2010, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 25, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
Surprising result. Thought Cloughmills would have had a lot more to them. Seems Junior hurling is not as strong as i thought. I know they are playing 'senior' clubs but they should still win

what people dont consider at this level is that a team from Monaghan/Donegal etc will not only be their senior champs but a lot of their players will be playing intercounty. Antrim junior is not as strong as people think because Antrim have a proper system where the winners get promoted. This leaves weaker teams behind for the next year. I can almost gaurantee that the Antrim junior champs wont win Ulster next year again. The winner will come from Donegal/Derry or Monaghan.


Sure Cloughmills had three county players this year.....
Sorry didnt realise that-do they all get game time or are they fringe players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
well if you didnt know that they had 3 county panelists in the first place would that lead you to believe that they were first teamers?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2010, 12:02:26 PM
Its all very well having the skilled players lads but as we all know its how they stand up when the hard questions are being asked, look no further than our current Ulster champions who Nelson has managed to tranform mentally which has been the secret to their success, as they were always able to hurl. Cloughmills have often promised over the last few years but have not delivered when expected, but their emerging talent is still young and their best is yet to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2010, 12:49:38 PM
Last Man Im not begruding anything to the Ulster Champions at all, but I think your getting ahead of yourself saying they are mentally transformed. Lets look at it in the cold light of day now.

(Again they are Antrim and Ulster Champions and this is just my opinion not taking away from the fact that they have won it at all)

They beat Dunloy on one of the worst off days that they have had in championship hurling in 20 years.

They beat Cushendall who played extremely poorly by their standards and still could have (and maybe should have) won the game with the chances they had inside the last few minutes.

They beat a Ballygalget side one of the weakest ever to emerge to this stage from the Co Down in recent times for sure.

They beat Keady enough said.

My point is that until we see them outplaying and beating a team playing at the top of their game in opposition to them then we wont know how transformed they really are.

However I do believe these victories will give them more confidence and they will themselves be better and harder to beat next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 27, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 26, 2010, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 26, 2010, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 25, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2010, 03:53:30 PM
Surprising result. Thought Cloughmills would have had a lot more to them. Seems Junior hurling is not as strong as i thought. I know they are playing 'senior' clubs but they should still win

what people dont consider at this level is that a team from Monaghan/Donegal etc will not only be their senior champs but a lot of their players will be playing intercounty. Antrim junior is not as strong as people think because Antrim have a proper system where the winners get promoted. This leaves weaker teams behind for the next year. I can almost gaurantee that the Antrim junior champs wont win Ulster next year again. The winner will come from Donegal/Derry or Monaghan.


Sure Cloughmills had three county players this year.....
Sorry didnt realise that-do they all get game time or are they fringe players

Smiley (about 21/22 - at a guess), Laverty (18/19) and Devlin (18/19) were part of the county panel last year. Both Smiley and Devlin got some game time in a couple of the National League games, although I don't think either started a game. None of them saw any action in the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 27, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 27, 2010, 12:02:26 PM
Its all very well having the skilled players lads but as we all know its how they stand up when the hard questions are being asked, look no further than our current Ulster champions who Nelson has managed to tranform mentally which has been the secret to their success, as they were always able to hurl. Cloughmills have often promised over the last few years but have not delivered when expected, but their emerging talent is still young and their best is yet to come.

Cloughmills
Winning the junior championship after a few hard years of losing semi finals is delivering.
That said in the Ulster final they just didn't play...at all.
Freezing? probably.
Over confident? Don't think I would associate that with them...but maybe underestimating the opposition.

Cloughmills have the nucleus of a decent side over the next few years and if they keep at it can compete. However, the step up to Intermediate is a big one...and the next step HUGE.

The Bodies
Not sure if it is the Nelson factor or not but you have to hand it to Loughgiel. In the wee GAA world we live in to get kicked in the teeth so hard and so repeatedly and still come back deserves praise.
People may not like certain tactics, may not like certain individuals, may query the route to winning this year but they did it...and it would take a seriously blinkered person to not at least recognise there must be some mental character there to come through.

It has been mentioned that it will be harder for them to come back and win it again, which is true...but the monkey is certainly off their back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2010, 12:49:38 PM
Last Man Im not begruding anything to the Ulster Champions at all, but I think your getting ahead of yourself saying they are mentally transformed. Lets look at it in the cold light of day now.

(Again they are Antrim and Ulster Champions and this is just my opinion not taking away from the fact that they have won it at all)

They beat Dunloy on one of the worst off days that they have had in championship hurling in 20 years.

They beat Cushendall who played extremely poorly by their standards and still could have (and maybe should have) won the game with the chances they had inside the last few minutes.



They beat a Ballygalget side one of the weakest ever to emerge to this stage from the Co Down in recent times for sure.

They beat Keady enough said.

My point is that until we see them outplaying and beating a team playing at the top of their game in opposition to them then we wont know how transformed they really are.

However I do believe these victories will give them more confidence and they will themselves be better and harder to beat next year.
[/quote
Fair enough Nag, I would have been the first to say that Cushendall through that game away but truth be told is that L'giel go about themselves in a very different way these days. less panic, less lashing out, ridiculous fouls. It's not that long ago that they wouldn't have been happy unless the pitch was covered in shattered remains of Michael Scullions finest. I can't see who other than Nelson in the current management team that would have brought that kind of influence. It has to make a big difference for any team if the rockets can be tamed and their teammates can trust them to just hurl away instead of doing something stupid and costing them the game.
We'll see if they can sustain it when really tested though. ]
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 28, 2010, 08:37:35 AM
Yeah Last Man i wasnt disagreeing just coming from a different angle.

Just have a thing against mercenaries so hard to get past that you know  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 28, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
I'm on your shoulder on that one lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 28, 2010, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 28, 2010, 08:37:35 AM
Yeah Last Man i wasnt disagreeing just coming from a different angle.

Just have a thing against mercenaries so hard to get past that you know  ;)

I'm sure no one in Loughgeil cares about the mercanaries talk now as they'll say the end justifies the means.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 28, 2010, 12:33:36 PM
Wouldnt expect them to JC still doesnt change my opinion on it  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 28, 2010, 01:28:40 PM
I'm not big on outside coaches, with the obvious inference of financial reward, but what is acceptable

Paid Players - No No No
Paid Manager - No
Paid Selector - No
Paid Fitness Coach - maybe
Paid Physio - Yes
Paid Stats man - maybe

personally, and especially given economic times, i think no one involved with a team should be getting renumerated for it, i accept professional services of Physio, Fitness prep are also a matter of player welfare and so not alway possible to get the neccessary skill base from within but if clubs want to spend money, do it in the off season and educate the coaches available from within.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 28, 2010, 01:30:08 PM
Dinny, Dinny, Dinny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 28, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
What's your definition of a mercenary?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 28, 2010, 03:33:48 PM
Could he mean "a soldier of fortune" whos's efforts might in the eyes of some people be better served in helping out at home first and foremost. ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 28, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
Or could it just be a case of annoyance as the mercenary he brought in wasn't up to it and they had to sack him :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 31, 2010, 01:28:57 AM
How can you slag Loughgiel of as the only paid nelson £80 per night and MC Gurk £60 per night gd value if you ask me. Their sponsor on the Cushendall bus after the 2008 final said he had wasted 30k that year on Loughgiel i bet he's happy now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on October 31, 2010, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: JamesH on October 31, 2010, 01:28:57 AM
How can you slag Loughgiel of as the only paid nelson £80 per night and MC Gurk £60 per night gd value if you ask me. Their sponsor on the Cushendall bus after the 2008 final said he had wasted 30k that year on Loughgiel i bet he's happy now

Cushendall would have been as well paying someone, then they might have had someone that knew what they were doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2010, 07:38:07 PM
No championship is worth paying for a soldier(s) of fortune ...I don't care how long you have to wait to achieve with men from you're own club.

Loughgiel's discipline has improved this year so maybe Nelson deserves credit ;)  for that seeing as they never seemed to learn all those other years when the man on the moon could see it was a problem. Apart from that there is no improvement that I can see in their side to any other year.... in fact I think in recent years they were better than they are at the minute. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2010, 08:47:40 PM
Was there an ulster league final on today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 31, 2010, 09:12:39 PM
Dunloy won by a couple apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
There was

Dunloy hindered throughout by woeful shooting as bad and flat as the semi final in that department. I'd say easiliy 20 wides throughout plus a couple of very good goal chances sqandered .........but we only had ourselves to blame

Oh....nearly forgot...won by 2 points  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2010, 09:42:06 PM
What kind of lineouts were out?

Many missing on either side?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
LG were missing winker. We were missing Ally and Conor Cunning. Full strength apart from that

Edit
LG were missing winker C McKinley and skinner. We were missing Ally and Conor Cunning. Full strength apart from that  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 01, 2010, 08:39:10 AM
LG were missing C McKinley and Skinner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 01, 2010, 10:54:06 AM
ps. Thought the ref had a mare for both sides -  :o.  Too much blowing and dishing out of yellow cards for nothing.  I dont think there was a bad slap in the whole game and he gave out at least 10 yellows - unbelieveable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 01, 2010, 11:59:20 AM
Seriously over officious. Do ref's go into matches with pre conceived notions of how the game "could" pan out and then referee it according to that notion? Certainly looked like the officiating was expecting mayhem. Apart from two badly timed shoulder tackles that was it. Nothing to warrant the cards and frees dished out for nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2010, 10:19:11 AM
Think Herbie was doing his best to take prevent the game getting out of hand and instead what he got was a disjointed free ridden game in which there was hardly a dirty slap in the whole game.

This is why I think the refs at the start of the year should meet with a group of players selected from the clubs and have a discussion/ meeting on a semi-informal basis just watching clips of games from throughout the year and discuss the desicions. Not in a confrontational way just in a way that both sides can take something from the meeting.

One incident sticks in my head, Barney McAuley in the centre of the pitch, flicked across as one of the Dunloy men was attempting to control the ball, it was a side to side motion with one hand and simply missed the ball, neither was it dangerous or was it an attempt to hurt the player, IMO it wasnt even a foul but it resulted in a yellow card. (not getting at Herbie because have seen other refs do exactly the same)

On the game LG must have done some serious drinking all week because the Dunloy players looked sharper and beat them to nearly every ball. Not the kind of performance you would want to be taking into the winter, even though it was just the Ulster League.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 02, 2010, 10:54:10 AM
Clearly the way forward Nag if anything to improve mutual respect between players and referees. We might even get a few extra willing candidates for new men in black. What's the best way to take this forward??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2010, 11:10:42 AM
Have to say the Young Whistlers programme is a good idea and should be pursued.

In fairness at senior level I dont think the abuse refs get is anywhere near what it used to be (barring the odd incident), at least in my experience it seems to be more prevalent down the ranks and this is the one place where it should be zero tolerance.

But if the refs get the respect and actually get a chance to interact with some of the players then maybe the pick something up which makes them a better ref and maybe the players gain a respect for them that they are giving up their time and they want to do the best job possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2010, 11:52:10 AM
Those type of discussions have been had before NAG. Some people want to protect their perspective. Some want to attack others perspective. Very few are willing to see both sides of the coin and look for solutions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2010, 12:17:33 PM
Thats kind of why I was thinking of a more informal type meeting, but it would need someone with a bit of intelligence to chair the meetings and not ride rough shod over everyone and their views.
Just my idea to help things along.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 02, 2010, 12:46:18 PM
If the right sort of people are in the room I can't see how it wouldn't help everyone to see both sides of the story and carry it back accordingly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
Like our players, they don't always perform. we expect (players/referees) to be giving it their best. I'd doubt very much if one of your players has a crap game that you'd give him a verbal, on a website.

Usually a bit of slagging but seriously toned down. That player (unless he's thick) will know he had a bad game, same as the referee. he'll know during and walking off the pitch that he had a good one or shite one.

In defence of most referees they call it as they see it, for Herbie on that incident Nag it he probably seen it as dangerous play, as you said someone else would have waved it on. We only have about 3/4 ex senior players refereeing at the minute. if we continue to abuse them then our games will be officiated by non players. what would you prefer?

I'm not fooled into thinking  that referees are biased. I hate most (all) clubs in Belfast, its a healthy hatred  ;D ;D so when refereeing i don't give a toss who wins.

As for sitting down with players and management from clubs it can be a good thing and will raise a few eyebrows when answers from referees wont be accepted by players.

I asked a good referee to come in and speak to my team last year about a referee from down south who was doing our semi final, he told the lads he blew for this type of foul and let this type of 'foul' go!! Point is all referees have their own style. That is why we are at logger heads sometimes during a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2010, 02:22:35 PM
Good Post MR2

I wasnt getting at Herbie but its the type of foul that a player doesnt expect to get even never mind a booking but I take your point that all refs have their own style. My one concern is really that, we are continually blowing these fouls and we are letting the wild slashing under a dropping ball go, I know which is more dangerous for sure and what one should be getting the attention of the refs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The early pull under the dropping ball is dangerous, also when a defender comes in to bat down early when a players is trying to catch the ball, if its obvious then most referees should blow for it. I know this pull only to well, played Rossa couple of years ago and i pulled the ball in the air only for the defender missing and opening my eye up, 8 stitches i got that day :(

If we have decent ex players then they are well up to speed on players from clubs, doesn't take a brain surgeon to know who the headers are in a match after 5 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The early pull under the dropping ball is dangerous, also when a defender comes in to bat down early when a players is trying to catch the ball, if its obvious then most referees should blow for it. I know this pull only to well, played Rossa couple of years ago and i pulled the ball in the air only for the defender missing and opening my eye up, 8 stitches i got that day :(

If we have decent ex players then they are well up to speed on players from clubs, doesn't take a brain surgeon to know who the headers are in a match after 5 minutes.

I don't think you should be going into referee a game with preconceived ideas on certain players but no doubt it happens as referee's are only human also, well most of them anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The early pull under the dropping ball is dangerous, also when a defender comes in to bat down early when a players is trying to catch the ball, if its obvious then most referees should blow for it. I know this pull only to well, played Rossa couple of years ago and i pulled the ball in the air only for the defender missing and opening my eye up, 8 stitches i got that day :(

If we have decent ex players then they are well up to speed on players from clubs, doesn't take a brain surgeon to know who the headers are in a match after 5 minutes.



I don't think you should be going into referee a game with preconceived ideas on certain players but no doubt it happens as referee's are only human also, well most of them anyway.

Johnny, everyone, players management and referees always go to games with preconceived ideas, how else would you expect to prepare for a match?

Knowing a players traits style or temperament is something I'd expect to know. How a referee deals with that is down to him. A quiet word with certain players during the match can calm things down when getting heated. Same goes with management. How many times have you seen a referee having a quiet word with both managers? It's usually a shouting match followed by sending the manager off the pitch!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The early pull under the dropping ball is dangerous, also when a defender comes in to bat down early when a players is trying to catch the ball, if its obvious then most referees should blow for it. I know this pull only to well, played Rossa couple of years ago and i pulled the ball in the air only for the defender missing and opening my eye up, 8 stitches i got that day :(

If we have decent ex players then they are well up to speed on players from clubs, doesn't take a brain surgeon to know who the headers are in a match after 5 minutes.



I don't think you should be going into referee a game with preconceived ideas on certain players but no doubt it happens as referee's are only human also, well most of them anyway.

Johnny, everyone, players management and referees always go to games with preconceived ideas, how else would you expect to prepare for a match?

Knowing a players traits style or temperament is something I'd expect to know. How a referee deals with that is down to him. A quiet word with certain players during the match can calm things down when getting heated. Same goes with management. How many times have you seen a referee having a quiet word with both managers? It's usually a shouting match followed by sending the manager off the pitch!!

I understand what you are saying, but I don't necessarily agree with you. Surely you need to go out to referee with an open mind and treat each issue on its on merits irrespective if someone involved has 'previous' or not.  Why have a quiet word with one player and not another? I think you'd be going down a dangerous road to be treating players differently.

Get the name of an early riser and you can lie in bed all day and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
The early pull under the dropping ball is dangerous, also when a defender comes in to bat down early when a players is trying to catch the ball, if its obvious then most referees should blow for it. I know this pull only to well, played Rossa couple of years ago and i pulled the ball in the air only for the defender missing and opening my eye up, 8 stitches i got that day :(

If we have decent ex players then they are well up to speed on players from clubs, doesn't take a brain surgeon to know who the headers are in a match after 5 minutes.



I don't think you should be going into referee a game with preconceived ideas on certain players but no doubt it happens as referee's are only human also, well most of them anyway.

Johnny, everyone, players management and referees always go to games with preconceived ideas, how else would you expect to prepare for a match?

Knowing a players traits style or temperament is something I'd expect to know. How a referee deals with that is down to him. A quiet word with certain players during the match can calm things down when getting heated. Same goes with management. How many times have you seen a referee having a quiet word with both managers? It's usually a shouting match followed by sending the manager off the pitch!!

I understand what you are saying, but I don't necessarily agree with you. Surely you need to go out to referee with an open mind and treat each issue on its on merits irrespective if someone involved has 'previous' or not.  Why have a quiet word with one player and not another? I think you'd be going down a dangerous road to be treating players differently.

Get the name of an early riser and you can lie in bed all day and all that.

As i said already, the referee will only blow for a foul if he sees it.

Do you go out to play with an open mind, or do you prepare? who your marking? is he fast? is he a dirty player. I hope referees know something about the teams/players they are refereeing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:46:22 PM

As i said already, the referee will only blow for a foul if he sees it.

Do you go out to play with an open mind, or do you prepare? who your marking? is he fast? is he a dirty player. I hope referees know something about the teams/players they are refereeing

Knowing whether your opponent is a catcher, speedy etc is slightly different to a referee who is expected to be impartial going into a game with preconceived ideas on players and teams etc and IMO could and would lead to calls of bias if those perceptions were clouding a referee's judgement.
E.G. Watson is known as a bit of a hot head, opposition go out of their way to rile him, he may get involved, do you afford him some sort of leniency as he may have been got at or do you treat him like everyone else?

If you'd red carded a player in the past and low and behold there's a schemozzle and they're involved, surely you'd be inclined to treat them more harshly, now that in my mind would be human nature but as a referee you need to try and be above that and treat that incident in its singularity, No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 05, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2010, 03:46:22 PM

As i said already, the referee will only blow for a foul if he sees it.

Do you go out to play with an open mind, or do you prepare? who your marking? is he fast? is he a dirty player. I hope referees know something about the teams/players they are refereeing

Knowing whether your opponent is a catcher, speedy etc is slightly different to a referee who is expected to be impartial going into a game with preconceived ideas on players and teams etc and IMO could and would lead to calls of bias if those perceptions were clouding a referee's judgement.
E.G. Watson is known as a bit of a hot head, opposition go out of their way to rile him, he may get involved, do you afford him some sort of leniency as he may have been got at or do you treat him like everyone else?
If you'd red carded a player in the past and low and behold there's a schemozzle and they're involved, surely you'd be inclined to treat them more harshly, now that in my mind would be human nature but as a referee you need to try and be above that and treat that incident in its singularity, No?


No individual player should be treated different than anyone else so no leniency should be afforded to individuals.  However, it may be prudent for a referee to have a word with his linesmen and umpires to keep a close eye on the treatment taken and given out by individuals.  Each incident however should be judged on its own merits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
Look I'm not saying that because of players past or his wild pulling or has a tendency to take 6/7 steps that I'm going to blow cause of him. But a referee will (a good one) know most of the players he is refereeing. As I've said (many times) he can only blow for a free if he sees it!!!!. Regardless if the player in question is known to do certain things in previous games.

Having watched our match in Cross last week, the way in which the lines man gets involved in petty pulling and hauling is beyond me. Two players hauling should be pulled by the referee and told to wise up. But no they or in St Galls case he gives a card to one player when clearly to everyone there, they were both at it!!! Its called the easy way out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2010, 07:46:37 PM
Was at the match (half time) and Carrickmore could have won, certainly more goal chances than the Johnnies had. thought the winter hurling of St Johns was poor and they looked surprisingly slow and some boys over weight!!!

to only win by 2 points is a poor enough if you are a Johnnies man. Carrickmore should take some heart from their display and they brought a great crowd down with them.

St Johns had moved their fullback to centre half forward and he won the match scoring the last 3 points for the Johnnies, Would be worried going into the latter stages of the competition, think they play the British Champions in the quarters so a big improvement needed.

Hardstation i would say the Carrickmore team played rightly and would be a disservice to them to say the Johnnies were that poor. Remember they won div 2 handy enough this year ;)

in saying that we were 20 points up at half time in the Ulster final last year ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2010, 11:42:10 AM
Getting to that time of the year, when the gongs are handed out.

Highlights of the year for everyone? Club or County?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Highlights for the county have been the game against Dublin and Offaly in the Championship. qualities that Dinny can bring out when you think we've had a shite year.

Lows certainly the under 21's hammering by Tipp and the poor Senior County final.

Loughgiel finally ended 18 years in the wilderness to win the cup. so a high for them and a kick in the ass for the teams that thought all we had to do was meet Loughgiel in the final ;)

Major disappointments are that no real teams outside of the big 3 look like winning the championship (though the football ain't much better.....) and nothing major coming from teams in the lower leagues. The Johnnies are heading up but i fear will head straight back down.

Glenarrife missed the boat maybe last year, not sure if they have anything coming through the ranks. (minder!) Ballycastle? well they will be in Milltown next year and Gorts and was going to say St Paul's but.......

Best player for the County? Karl Stewart ;) man of the match against Dublin in Croke Park

Best player for the County Champions? Well that goes to another Belfast man........ Jim Nelson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 11, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2010, 04:19:02 PM


Lows certainly the under 21's hammering by Tipp



considering the hammering Tipp gave Galway a few weeks later I wouldn't be just that disheartened. That's one fine Tipp U-21 team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2010, 05:19:09 PM
Highs: Dublin win and character shown to win the Carlow game. Watson's performance against Cork also a high that we have a player as good as he is. Loughgiel winning the c'ship. This will make county finals for the foreseeable future much better.

Lows: Cork in their current state still beat us by a bit. Watson still acting the maggot and showing we're not sure we can trust him. U21s as has been stated. For me it is also a low that Ballycastle got relegated. They were a team I thought could shake the "big three" which could only have been good for our game. League tables don't lie but I thought with U21 record they were a lot better.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 12, 2010, 11:22:10 AM
Club

Highs: Completion of Sports Academy

Lows: Performance in Semi Final of Championship, possibly the worse in Championship in a decade, but was typical of the inconsistent nature of our season, capable of being brilliant capable of being awful, see one week, beat Ballycastle by 25 points, lost to ballycastle by 12 points

County

High: Credible performance v a good Offaly team, and an underrated Cork side, good victory against Dublin, pleasing seeing Shorty put the previous year out injured to go on and captain the team

Low: League was there to be won, but Antrim finished closer to Div3 than 1. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
Any news about league structuring out there?

Hearing ten team leagues again!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 20, 2010, 05:15:51 PM
Have been told all proposals for league restructuring (or otherwise) won't be on the table for discussion at Convention - will be the job of first county committee meeting.  St John's have a motion for 10 team hurling leagues, CCC have one to keep things the same and bring div 2 back to 8 teams by 2012 (2 relegated next season).  Few ridiculous motions about football leagues / championships from some clubs also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2010, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 20, 2010, 05:15:51 PM
Have been told all proposals for league restructuring (or otherwise) won't be on the table for discussion at Convention - will be the job of first county committee meeting.  St John's have a motion for 10 team hurling leagues, CCC have one to keep things the same and bring div 2 back to 8 teams by 2012 (2 relegated next season).  Few ridiculous motions about football leagues / championships from some clubs also.

Seems that the Johnnies are thinking that next season they could be in the relegation trouble!!

In agreement that the divison two should be dropped to 8 teams also. maybe this season!!! ;)

Division 4 A and B should be one league

We'll be entertaining the 'Town' in Milltown this year, I'm sure they will be favourites to go up straight away but won't get it easy at Rossa, Milltown and at the Clooney Gaels pitch, more than likely get lost on the way to that pitch ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on November 22, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Heard the same and that is protectionism at its very best. No doubt Ballycastle will cling on this life belt.

Have to say that I thought that the hurling leagues worked well this year when compared to previous years and I have the view if it aint broke don't fix it.

Div 2 is not a bad league in terms of its mechanics, however, there is a bigger gap between the weakest and the strongest in this league than there is in Div 1.

Depending on how the Johnnies approach the league next year I think that there is a fair chance that they could be back down again.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 22, 2010, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: funtime frankie on November 22, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Heard the same and that is protectionism at its very best. No doubt Ballycastle will cling on this life belt.

Have to say that I thought that the hurling leagues worked well this year when compared to previous years and I have the view if it aint broke don't fix it.

Div 2 is not a bad league in terms of its mechanics, however, there is a bigger gap between the weakest and the strongest in this league than there is in Div 1.

Depending on how the Johnnies approach the league next year I think that there is a fair chance that they could be back down again.


There was a stage with the one way league when the gap between the weakest and strongest in Div 1 was embarrassing. Unsure If the strongest have weakened to bring about an evening out in Div 1 but currently it is a close well contested division. Do youse think in time div2 might improve in this regard if we had some stability in terms of league structure?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 22, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
Division 2 looks to have a good structure to it at the minute. Just looking at the table and there is a 2 point gap between bottom and mid table. That means a lot of teams are quite evenly matched making it more competitive which is good.

The leagues look good. They shouldn't mess with them in my view. Division 4 should be split too - I'm basing this on a viewpoint of someone I know who plays in there and thinks the gap is just way too large between top and bottom of a single division 4.

Going to an 8 team division 2 may do no harm but how do they manage it? Put 2 down and promote glenarm or don't promote glenarm? Then bottom 2 from 3 into 4A? I don't think it could be done fairly.

I think finally the leagues, more from the outside looking in, look ok and shouldn't be messed with. If you get relegated it's your own fault. It's your own business to get back up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on November 22, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Is there not a proposal that the winners of Div 2 don't go straight up to Div 1 and there is to be a play off between the teams at bottom of Div1 and and those at top of Div 2 and each division thereafter?

I think such a propsal is a crock of sh1t because if you have played hard all year to win your Division then you deserve to go up. Why make it all complicated? Well, that's easy to answer - certain clubs are only interested in themselves.

I see from the Johnnies guestbook that one of their own is unhappy with the proposal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2010, 04:24:35 PM
Look i proposed this to our club after some discussion here and there was something similar to this before.

Winners of a division go up regardless, bottom place will be relegated. The add on was that the second placed team played the second bottom placed team from the division above. if you couldn't beat that team then it would be very difficult for you the following year in that division.

What we had for a couple of seasons was this, winners of a division played the bottom placed of the higher division. They were normally beaten so they scrapped it.

Two up and two down sorts it out. means all the games are meaningful. I'd even go for the playoffs like they do in Ice Hockey and other American sports. Means teams playing, training right up to the end. Top four play off for the league bottom four play off for relegation!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: drgeorge on November 23, 2010, 10:15:17 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: funtime frankie on November 24, 2010, 09:11:06 AM
This is a hurling thread. Any with Liam Mac?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 24, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: drgeorge on November 23, 2010, 10:15:17 PM
Nice xmas present i came across on ebay sam for sale lol http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190471993698#ht_500wt_1156

is that something Mimi Maguire would have hanging from her ample wrists?

TAF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 24, 2010, 05:40:06 PM
I wonder is drgeorge's other online identity 'kieranokane204'?
Quote
drgeorge
Newbie

Posts: 7
County: Tyrone
Club: Strabane

And the item is coming from 'Item location: Strabane, Tyrone, United Kingdom
Post to: United Kingdom'.

Surely it's only a coincidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 29, 2010, 11:19:22 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 01, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
Ollie Baker joins the antrim backroom team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 01, 2010, 03:56:52 PM
What role will baker have?

Former All Ireland winner with Clare, Ollie Baker has agreed to join Dinny Cahill's management team for 2010.

He will be joined by Dublin based coach David Kennedy.

Dunloy's Gregory O'Kane continues in his role as a selector and coach.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 01, 2010, 04:46:14 PM
As far as we know he will still be in charge of the County footballers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2010, 11:52:26 AM
Fireworks after the Cushendall AGM yesterday, Gazza got the boot as manager and then they all knocked f**k out of each other in the Lurig after it. Ya gotta love it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shrek on December 06, 2010, 11:57:29 AM
as i have said before, its pricks like you that give this board a bad name
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 06, 2010, 12:00:41 PM
Who is the new manager?

Gazza didn't hit all them wides
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: maxpower on December 06, 2010, 12:00:41 PM
Who is the new manager?

Gazza didn't hit all them wides

Skinner and Big Jackie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 06, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
Any news from the Dunloy AGM Max?  Was it yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 06, 2010, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2010, 11:52:26 AM
Fireworks after the Cushendall AGM yesterday, Gazza got the boot as manager and then they all knocked f**k out of each other in the Lurig after it. Ya gotta love it.
He didn't get the boot... Just beaten in a vote. You dont see any fighting in Glenariffe to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2010, 03:49:23 PM
No one got the boot and nobody got booted. A very civil affair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 06, 2010, 04:05:51 PM
Typical Oisins post re- our AGM, can anyone see the irony in that ? Oisins are hardly top of the disciplinary league, i remember not that long ago i went to support our mighty neighbours in an All Ireland match in Dublin and to our complete shock they had only three members from the same family sent off, and i can't say things have improved much since. yes we did have bother yesterday but sort your own house out first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: JamesH on December 06, 2010, 04:05:51 PM
Typical Oisins post re- our AGM, can anyone see the irony in that ? Oisins are hardly top of the disciplinary league, i remember not that long ago i went to support our mighty neighbours in an All Ireland match in Dublin and to our complete shock they had only three members from the same family sent off, and i can't say things have improved much since. yes we did have bother yesterday but sort your own house out first.

Sort out our own house? I can never remember any instances of fellas (the outgoing manager and an ex manager) knocking shite out of each other after an AGM. You do see the difference in what happens in a hurling field and what happens in a pub?
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 06, 2010, 04:22:39 PM
Perhaps not Minder but I'd say there was a fight or 2 in every pub in Ireland over the GAA including the mariners.
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Post by: Trout on December 06, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
The Cushendall posters are very precious about a bit of high jinks. I hear it was Gazza in the red corner and Sambo in the blue corner.
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Post by: the colonel on December 06, 2010, 05:23:30 PM
No ex manager hit an outgoing manager. And you'll find there was a cushendun influence in what happened
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Post by: Shrek on December 06, 2010, 05:30:09 PM
i have said this before and i will say it a again, Minder you are a complete idiot.

i am not a member of any club, but i hate idiots like yourself coming onto forums like this and spouting rubbish

from one of my good sources - there was no fighting between any outgoing manager and a x-manager so maybe you should get your facts right. argument, maybe, no fighting.

so minder, get your facts right.

ive heard stories about other clubs and have never thought about jumping on a website and posting it, tells something about the person who does.
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on December 06, 2010, 05:54:43 PM
Dry your eyes FFS.
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Post by: thehurler on December 06, 2010, 06:01:21 PM
It is very sad that things have turned out the way they have .As usual for these people it revolves around drink , really pathetic behaviour by them all , sore losers really.I cant see a way forward for them.
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Post by: the colonel on December 06, 2010, 06:02:27 PM
The two fellas mentioned didnt fight. Minder just starting the rumours and watchng it take legs. Any dirt on Cushendall is great for the likes of him
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Post by: Trout on December 06, 2010, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: Shrek on December 06, 2010, 05:30:09 PM
i have said this before and i will say it a again, Minder you are a complete idiot.

i am not a member of any club, but i hate idiots like yourself coming onto forums like this and spouting rubbish

from one of my good sources - there was no fighting between any outgoing manager and a x-manager so maybe you should get your facts right. argument, maybe, no fighting.

so minder, get your facts right.

ive heard stories about other clubs and have never thought about jumping on a website and posting it, tells something about the person who does.

Shrek, mate you are getting in an awful state about this bit of fisticuffs. Nobody got hurt, i dont think. You will have to downgrade your source from good to unreliable. I know for a
fact gazza and Sambo were fighting,they fought, made up then fought again !!!!!!Now I don't care how many of you come on and say they just argued, I know that isn't true. Colonel, I think I am right in saying you are based in Scotland, so maybe a bit too far away to tell us what happened. Maybe you were home at the weekend, yeah that's it. When the drink is in the wits out, I am sure everyone is best mates now. Gazza wasn't the only member of the McCambridges to get a dig in the chops either, my "good" source tells me.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2010, 07:36:15 PM
All clubs have a bit of tension running through it. That's called passion, it's brilliant and for most parts it's very healthy, it means people care about the direction of the club.

Not everybody will meet eye to eye on club issues or management. For outsiders looking in it can be a time for taking the piss out of them. Minder is doing just that and nothing in it really ;)

If I heard the Johnnies were knocking ten bells out of each other you'd here it here first.

So when the dust settles everyone i'm sure will get behind the main objective and that's winning Championships.

Nothing to report at our AGM :( 
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on December 06, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
At last, a bit of common sense instead of all the bleating and handwringing.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 06, 2010, 09:26:03 PM
Was this part of a Ruairi's Fight Night or was it an unlicensed bout? For what it's worth I heard that digs were exchanged despite the damage limitation coming from the colonel etc. No great secret that there is no love lost between Sambo and half of the Dall.
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Post by: the colonel on December 06, 2010, 09:32:52 PM
Yes there was some fighting, but not between those previously mentioned. An trout im not him
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2010, 09:52:49 PM
I hear the county convention has been called off due to the bad weather. Nothing to do with the carry on's in the Lurig
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Post by: theskull1 on December 07, 2010, 11:06:15 AM
Go down to the lurig and say that  >:(

:)
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Post by: Shrek on December 07, 2010, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 07, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Some reaction by the Dall boys on here. If it was another club the same cnuts would be all over it.

can you explain, bearing in mind im not a Dall Boy.

i might have overreacted but i hate to see people names getting banded about forums,  i agree with most of what Milltown says, it when people start getting personal with names etc, especially when the stories are not the right stories.  as one of the dall boys said the two names mentioned did not fight - that is fact.
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Post by: thehurler on December 07, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
Will the club be bringing the fighters up in front of the commitee for bringing the association  and club into disrepute?
It is very bad example to the young ones around the area and what is acceptable behaviour and what is not.This behaviour should not be condoned and the club there needs to try and be a focus for postive contributions to society not drunken brawls.
I have spoken before of the pub culture there and it is obviously alive and well which really is quite sad. What example to the young lads of the village ! The club should take a lead on this and show the youth that it does not condone drunken brawls and take the guilty parties up on bringing the association into disrepute.
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Post by: Just Puck It on December 07, 2010, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 07, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Some reaction by the Dall boys on here. If it was another club the same cnuts would be all over it.

Hardstation I don't know what city team you're from, but if people were mouthing inaccurate things about your own club I'm sure you'd be the first to have your say!  Keep your opinion to yourself.
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Post by: the colonel on December 07, 2010, 01:24:48 PM
from county guestbook

sean peter pan altimas07 December 2010is there a proposal for ten team div 1 hurling league next year?

All motions and recommendations for Convention and County Committee have been circulated to clubs several weeks ago for consideration by their committees and members. And that has included a proposal for a 10 team Div 1 hurling league
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Post by: aontroim on December 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM
Nothing new in that colonel - the motion is in from St. John's and personally I cant see it being passed given the improvement in fixtures over the last couple of years.
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Post by: johnneycool on December 07, 2010, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: thehurler on December 07, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
Will the club be bringing the fighters up in front of the commitee for bringing the association  and club into disrepute?
It is very bad example to the young ones around the area and what is acceptable behaviour and what is not.This behaviour should not be condoned and the club there needs to try and be a focus for postive contributions to society not drunken brawls.
I have spoken before of the pub culture there and it is obviously alive and well which really is quite sad. What example to the young lads of the village ! The club should take a lead on this and show the youth that it does not condone drunken brawls and take the guilty parties up on bringing the association into disrepute.

Won't someone please think of the children.

::) ::)
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 07, 2010, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: Shrek on December 07, 2010, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 07, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Some reaction by the Dall boys on here. If it was another club the same cnuts would be all over it.

can you explain, bearing in mind im not a Dall Boy.

i might have overreacted but i hate to see people names getting banded about forums,  i agree with most of what Milltown says, it when people start getting personal with names etc, especially when the stories are not the right stories.  as one of the dall boys said the two names mentioned did not fight - that is fact.
Why are you always at pains to state that you are not a Dall boy or affiliated with any other club? Are you too embarrassed to say you are from Cushendun?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
Well after 5 years John McSparren has finished his term as County Chairman. Now i might not have agreed on some issues but in the main he was positive. leagues both football and hurling have been better, he has had a few highs with the senior teams and on the Dunsilly project. I wish the best in the future and hope Jim has a good term in office.
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Post by: thehurler on December 14, 2010, 06:09:48 PM
I have to applaud the doc and thank him for his service over that last 5 years , i really think he has been outstanding. A talent like his hopefully will be able to flourish in some other channel within our association. Maybe ulster council, central council and dare i say it hopefully to the heights of president. he has the intellect and hopefully drive to get there.
there hasn't been as  an outstanding adminstrator in antrim for many many years in antrim and let's hope it is not the last of the doc....he also has that fair but no nonsense side to him too , he doesnt suffer fools gladly. he has been a relevation for us he presided over our footballers getting to an ulster final and  our hurlers at last showing glimpses of 89 again !!let's start the presendial campaign now !!!he is too good not to be pushed on in our association...
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Post by: pdiddy on December 15, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
Well after 5 years John McSparren has finished his term as County Chairman. Now i might not have agreed on some issues but in the main he was positive. leagues both football and hurling have been better, he has had a few highs with the senior teams and on the Dunsilly project. I wish the best in the future and hope Jim has a good term in office.

This.
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Post by: pdiddy on December 15, 2010, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: thehurler on December 14, 2010, 06:09:48 PM
I have to applaud the doc and thank him for his service over that last 5 years , i really think he has been outstanding. A talent like his hopefully will be able to flourish in some other channel within our association. Maybe ulster council, central council and dare i say it hopefully to the heights of president. he has the intellect and hopefully drive to get there.
there hasn't been as  an outstanding adminstrator in antrim for many many years in antrim and let's hope it is not the last of the doc....he also has that fair but no nonsense side to him too , he doesnt suffer fools gladly. he has been a relevation for us he presided over our footballers getting to an ulster final and  our hurlers at last showing glimpses of 89 again !!let's start the presendial campaign now !!!he is too good not to be pushed on in our association...

Not so much This.  A bit OTT in my opinion.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 15, 2010, 03:56:04 PM
Quote from: thehurler on December 14, 2010, 06:09:48 PM
I have to applaud the doc and thank him for his service over that last 5 years , i really think he has been outstanding. A talent like his hopefully will be able to flourish in some other channel within our association. Maybe ulster council, central council and dare i say it hopefully to the heights of president. he has the intellect and hopefully drive to get there.
there hasn't been as  an outstanding adminstrator in antrim for many many years in antrim and let's hope it is not the last of the doc....he also has that fair but no nonsense side to him too , he doesnt suffer fools gladly. he has been a relevation for us he presided over our footballers getting to an ulster final and  our hurlers at last showing glimpses of 89 again !!let's start the presendial campaign now !!!he is too good not to be pushed on in our association...
Embarrassing John.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2011, 07:23:24 PM
I see the Dall have won the Minor Ulster hurling final, a team that in most people ideas (outside of Cushendall) were not fancied to win Antrim. Fair play and it seems they have talent coming through after all ;)
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Post by: Last Man on January 03, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
Great job by Smokie and Junior who many wrote off at an early stage. And for many of the players who it was thought wouldn't count but they didn't half raise 2 fingers to the nay sayers. A great year for them and hope it doesnt end here.
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2011, 11:30:26 PM
It's been rare that antrim teams have won that competition so good to see.

That Paddy McNaughton fella has been playing senior for a few years now for Cushendall and was on county u21 team last year so must be a good one.
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Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 04, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
I have to say, was in the New Dunloy facility over the Hols, absolutely fantastic, big investment and hope it pays off!
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Post by: JamesH on January 04, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
Paddy Mc Naughton played on our senior team at midfield in the last 2 finals he was the start of the show in Ulster Minor Final on Sunday getting 1-1 for midfield, He is also on the senior County panel for 2011 a good prospect.
I heard they trained on Sunday any new faces?
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Post by: NAG1 on January 04, 2011, 03:27:34 PM
Yet another good good prospect coming onto the panel before he is ready!

When are going to put some structures in place where there can be a tranistion phase for these talented players coming through?
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
I'm not exactly sure of what has happened that fella from Dunloy Darren Quinn but I don't think it did him any good being put on the county panel at such a young age. Is he even on Dunloy senior team now?

Still at least McNaughton has a few years senior hurling behind him which is probably more than young Woody and Quinn had between them when put on the county panel.
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Post by: concrete_boots on January 04, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
Heard theres been quite a few call ups to the squad although cant see many of them making an impact on the 1st team come championship time.

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Post by: Just Puck It on January 04, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: concrete_boots on January 04, 2011, 08:08:14 PM
Heard theres been quite a few call ups to the squad although cant see many of them making an impact on the 1st team come championship time.


Any names for us CB?
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Post by: maxpower on January 05, 2011, 12:40:35 PM
Darren Quinn is in Australia now, has been since just after the Ulster final of 2009 and will continue to be this year.  I agree joining the county set up too early probaly hindered his progress but he also had a serious car accident which was the major reason he took longer to make the big impact that was expected of him

his pace and direct running was a huge loss to our forward line last year.

from Dunloy Kevin McKeague, Shorty & Woody are on the county squad
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Post by: the colonel on January 05, 2011, 02:28:24 PM
Was a very good overall display from our minors, with some of the the best performances coming from the quieter players. Hopefully a couple of them can make a step up

Have heard that Conor Carson has also been called up, but I think he would be better to hold down a regular place/position in our own team first. Searlas hasn't committed yet, still thinking as far as I know

Heard a couple of the Cloughmills fella's were let go. Conor Laverty and Micky D.
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Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2011, 02:31:53 PM
In fairness I would agree with you on young Carson.

I dont mean to b negative at all, but how many of these young players are going to any sort of game time at all. Yes they may be training in a better enviroment but when are they ever going to get to use that good training?
Trailing all round the country watching the other lads playing while their club mates are playing away at home (all be it at a lower standard). Just my opinion that this doesnt do the county team or the club scene any good long term.

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Post by: the colonel on January 05, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
I think Conor will make a good hurler, but he has suffered from being moved about and a year for the Dall in one position would suit him alot better.
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Post by: concrete_boots on January 05, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
have heard that matty donnelly an paul mclernon from ballycastle james mc couaig from carey an paddy mcnaughton an conor carson from cushendall.
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Carson was superb at minor playing in the centre of defense. (I can't remember if it was full back or centre half back).

Will be tough for him in that position at Cushendall. Scullion probably one of the best FBs in club hurling and Graffin / McKeegan / McManus options for CHB.

Have never seen him in the forwards but cushendall do seem to have an abundance of defenders and move some into forwards to due to this. He looks like one of those to me...
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Post by: Just Puck It on January 05, 2011, 09:21:23 PM
Conor Carson would get moved about quite a lot from what I have seen. I think in the last year he played the majority of games in wing half forward and then was moved to corner forward towards the end of the championship.  With his size he has great potential but needs to be cementing his name on one position on the Cushendall team before the step up is made.  This theme of bringing younger boys onto the team for the last few years has seen a lot of them leave the panel with no real progression.  Matthew Donnelly in my opinion is not the class of a player that others think he is and over the last year at minor he has been exploited because of his pace/agility.  He is exceptional in the air and there is no doubt about that but there are plenty of easy ways which have been exploited at even minor level in the last year.

Best of luck to the boys called up anyway! Hope they can help to bring us all forward.
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Post by: the colonel on January 06, 2011, 12:20:41 PM
McLernon and McCouig are strange one's, I can see why Donnelly may be called up due to his size. All those young fella's mentioned certainly would have the right attitude and hope it goes well for them,

When is Antrim's first game?
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Post by: Just Puck It on January 06, 2011, 04:49:07 PM
We play Westmeath on the 16th January in Westmeath I think.
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 09, 2011, 08:19:28 PM
From today's Sindo:

Forever perched on thin line that divides calm and storm
Liam Watson's talent for trouble is almost as prodigious as his talent for hurling, writes Dermot Crowe

Sunday January 09 2011

I N last year's All-Ireland hurling quarter-final between Antrim and Cork, Liam Watson produced the glowing performance that would win him an All-Star nomination and showcase his talents as a hurler of the first rank. After 50 minutes he had nailed six points from play, not a prosaic score among them, but there was still time for a depressingly sour finale. Lucky not to be red-carded as early as the second minute, another flashpoint five minutes from the end of normal time resulted in him being ordered off the field.

His offence was there for everyone to see and judge. He became entangled with John Gardiner, yanked off the Corkman's helmet and then, when the heat seemed to have subsided, kicked the headgear away in a theatrical fit of pique. The referee had only one option; as an act of folly it was hard to surpass. Earlier, Watson had struck Eoin Cadogan off the ball and been blessed to escape with a yellow card. Despite that reprieve, and the scatter of points that followed, he still could not contain his temper over an hour later.

There have been numerous incidents like this one. In the 2008 Ulster semi-final against Derry, he was warned to keep his composure if they, as Antrim expected, tested his patience. He was sent off within ten minutes, leaving his team with 14 men for most of the match and having to dig themselves out of a hole.

His first Croke Park visit in 2002, while still a teenager, earned him a yellow card for striking Tipperary's Paul Ormonde. Television replays showed the offence in unsympathetic light and yellow was later upgraded to red. There have been various conflicts with management and in 2007 and 2009 he played no hurling for his county, having fallen foul of the management team of Sambo McNaughton and Dominic McKinley.

But he feels he has matured, at 28, and last year, in spite of his troubles, brought him a cherished and hard-earned county medal and national recognition through an All Star nomination. Next month his club, Loughgiel Shamrocks, will face the Leinster champions in the All-Ireland semi-finals. Their long-awaited county win ended a barren stretch that included a scarcely comprehensible six squandered finals in a row. Watson also began his first season in the IFA Premiership with Donegal Celtic, after spending the previous two seasons trying to win promotion. He was voted the supporters' best player and considered among the top three performers in the division.

Joe McGurk, part of the GAA family from Lavey, is on the Loughgiel management team and is cited as being one of the positive influences on Watson's efforts to reform. This is the player's own testimony. McGurk gave him Liam Dunne's autobiography which he has read and that has given him a sense of purpose and a feeling that he is not alone in his predicament. Dunne, too, had a career which mixed sublime hurling with controversy, and ultimately he came through and achieved a sense of peace and triumph.

Jim Nelson, the former Antrim manager and a Loughgiel coach, has also been a calming presence. Watson promised Nelson he would not be sent off in 2010 for Loughgiel. He proved true to his word. There were games, as he says himself, when he was "battered from the first minute to the last minute" but, "I never even said 'boo' to them". That was the difference."

But it is a constant battle. Before Christmas he returned from injury to face Coleraine and was sent off after just 15 seconds.

Dinny Cahill was the first manager to introduce Watson to the Antrim team and he managed to resurrect his career when he returned for the 2010 season. But even Cahill has been frustrated. He imposed a drinking ban leading up to the Leinster Championship match against Offaly which Watson breached by going to a close friend's stag in Liverpool. Then there was a fight in training with one of the Antrim players. He was dropped from the panel, restored, then dropped from the team. Not all of Cahill's management team were happy to see him come on at half-time in the Offaly game, but Cahill believed he needed him and made the call.

Cahill, he knew, would be pleading to him to return to inter-county hurling once he went back to managing Antrim. "I thought, 'Oh my God, I am going to get a call some night and it's going to be an hour long'. It came one Monday night. Och, he just wouldn't take no for an answer. I just told him maybe I didn't have the commitment he wanted, with the football and that. He said he would work round it."

He returned and hurled in the early rounds of the league, then got a straight red card against Laois and was suspended again. The season didn't pass without incident, but he believes he gave the county a lot, culminating in the six-point performance against Cork. For a while he had to balance two careers, with the Irish League running from August to May. During the hurling league in the spring, a balance needed to be struck but Cahill made the necessary accommodation.

"I left Donegal Celtic one Saturday evening (after a game), drove to Kilkenny and went to bed and played Kilkenny the next day and went back up. I was training four or five nights a week and playing two matches at the weekend and it got to the stage where I was not performing. I went to Dinny and said 'Dinny, I am trying to keep everyone happy and I am not performing'."

But even Cahill's patience was tested. He does a shaky impression of a Dinny Cahill accent, enunciating his reaction when told of the impending stag do: "Stag do's is out, weddings is out, funerals is out; everything is out." Watson told some of the players he was going regardless of Cahill's reservations. "It was my mate's stag who I have hung about with for 20 odd years, it was the least I could do."

Cahill phoned Watson while he was in Liverpool and he confessed. They agreed to talk on Monday when he returned. The next day he was texted news of a story in the newspapers saying he had been dropped from the panel. Cahill later overruled that decision and then had to face the training ground bust-up. Watson explains it as follows: "He [another player] hit me a dirty slap at training and he didn't think it was but I did and I turned around and hit him. Dinny talked to me and I told him, 'look, what I done in training I would do it again. It was a dirty slap for a training session'. He's a good fella (the player I hit) and I speak away to him now but I don't regret it, no. I said it to him, if that happened, I would do it again."

He has some regrets. On the Ormonde incident, he is asked if he deserved three months and is unequivocal that he did. "I hold my hand up," he says now, "it shouldn't have happened." But he is less contrite about other flashpoints. The Gardiner incident is one. He is asked why did he do it. "He (Gardiner) got me raised. See, when the ref was getting a hold of me, Gardiner was still poking two or three of our players and that is what annoyed me.

"I have no qualms. I don't like Gardiner and I never will. I don't regret kicking Gardiner's helmet. I would rather kick him up the ass to be honest, I don't like him. He is one I would never shake hands with."

The tussle with Cadogan is also recounted. "We were told what way they were going to come on to us. Before we started, we never shook hands . . . He (Cadogan) said I was in for a hard time. First ball I went for, he fouled me and I fell. I just got up and said 'you don't know who you are dealing with, you'll get it'. So then it went on and on."

You could have been sent off. "No, because it was early on."

So you took a calculated risk? "Aye," he says emphatically. "To put manners into him. Instead of him treating us like shit and I was going out to treat him like shit. End of the day I think it worked, I ended up playing well. To be honest, when I go playing hurling I can't go out and go through the motions, I need to be right up there. If somebody hits me, it's the best thing you can do to get me going."

On Friday, Watson went to a doctor in Ballymena who diagnosed a medial ligament tear in his knee. That would rule him out of Donegal Celtic's Irish League match with Coleraine, a repeat of the tie in November which, in his comeback game after another medial knee ligament tear, Watson received his marching orders. He enjoys playing football, is very happy with Donegal Celtic, and says he would love a crack at playing for Linfield or one of the bigger clubs if the opportunity arose.

But hurling is his game and he makes no bones about it, at one stage only half-jokingly deriding football as a "poof's game". He enjoys the physical nature of hurling and he has taken his fair share of knocks over the years, including a broken jaw in a county semi-final against Dunloy that had him eating through a straw for six weeks. Yet two weeks after getting his jaw wired up he turned out for Loughgiel in the county championship final.

His last medial ligament tear required keyhole surgery and if this requires the same treatment then he will postpone corrective treatment until after next month's All-Ireland club hurling semi-final. When he suffered a similar tear on the other knee last year, he "played through it". He featured in the county final win, the club's first since 1989, and hurled through the Ulster championship that followed by taking a series of painkilling injections.

On Thursday night, he went up to the local GAA grounds to watch the hurlers go through their paces. The bitter cold didn't deter them; they looked determined and eager, but injury to Watson is an untimely blow and his team-mate Eddie McCloskey has suffered a bad hamstring injury. Watson's six-year-old son Eoin is already a hurling fanatic and taking a keen interest in his father's career. His father recalls him watching the Cork game, praising the points his Daddy scored, then "tut-tutting" when he got the line.

Liam Watson knows that now, at 28, he should be a leader, carrying lads and showing example. In 2008, he was dropped from the Antrim squad the night before they faced Galway in the All-Ireland qualifiers at Casement Park. The offence was to play a soccer match two nights before in Limavady, part of an annual tournament, of no great consequence except that he did it every year. The same night he was due in Casement Park for training and a press night with the county hurlers. He never informed the management team he would be away and the next day he received a call saying he was being dropped.

He resented not being told face to face, instead hearing the news on his mobile while out shopping. But there are holes in his reasoning, given that he failed to communicate his absence the night before, and ran the obvious risk of injury by playing a relatively meaningless soccer match a couple of days before one of their big matches of the year. Any inter-county management team would have reacted in the same manner.

"I knew if I mentioned soccer there would be uproar, thought it was better saying nothing. Maybe I should have said I am going here. I made a lot of mistakes, you know, I am not saying I am perfect. Aye, I could have handled it better. I could have gone to them and said I am going here to play football and I will contact you right after the match to say everything is alright. Like, it was a mistake of mine. I will hold my hands up when I was wrong and maybe that was one of the times. I should have knocked the tournament on the head."

But did it hurt him enough to miss the Galway game? "You always look forward to playing the big teams," he says, "and put yourself up against the best, but once I got the phone call, I would rather they had met me face to face, I wasn't best pleased with that there. After the phone call, I didn't give a shit to be honest, it was one of those feelings where I said 'f**k it'. I thought at that time it was me and Antrim finished."

His relationship with McNaughton and McKinley, which had already been tested, never recovered. Antrim, after a plucky first half hour, were annihilated by Galway in Belfast. He wouldn't make himself available for the final qualifier match in Walsh Park against Waterford and the county was walloped again. He didn't hurl the following year for Antrim and he hadn't hurled in 2007 either.

McNaughton and McKinley had been in charge of the county minors and were building a new senior side from those reserves. They were anxious that the right example would be set by the more senior players and Watson's reputation contravened those ideals. They wanted him to hurl but he was hard work and more often than not they regarded him as too much of a liability.

He admits there were times when he went missing, even for Loughgiel, where a night out morphed into two and maybe three and the next training session was missed without prior warning. This would lead to words and that would only make him worse. One year he missed a first round championship game for Loughgiel when he went on a lost weekend after a motorbike race. He had to return with the tail between his legs and apologise to his team-mates gathered around him on the field.

If some don't believe he will ever fully reform, it is understandable. But he feels he is making ground. The quality of his hurling has never been in dispute. He jokes that if he were his own manager he would lock himself up and only release himself for training and matches. "Since I have come on the hurling scene, I know I have made a lot of mistakes but in the last two years I have grown up a lot, made a lot of changes. But I've still a lot to change. Long way to go. Last year was very good for me and that was part of my changing."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 09, 2011, 09:49:13 PM
What more is there to say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Are loughgiel actually in an AI Semi Final, hard to tell from that article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on January 10, 2011, 10:26:32 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 09, 2011, 08:19:28 PM

The tussle with Cadogan is also recounted. "We were told what way they were going to come on to us. Before we started, we never shook hands . . . He (Cadogan) said I was in for a hard time. First ball I went for, he fouled me and I fell. I just got up and said 'you don't know who you are dealing with, you'll get it'. So then it went on and on."

You could have been sent off. "No, because it was early on."

So you took a calculated risk? "Aye," he says emphatically. "To put manners into him. Instead of him treating us like shit and I was going out to treat him like shit. End of the day I think it worked, I ended up playing well. To be honest, when I go playing hurling I can't go out and go through the motions, I need to be right up there. If somebody hits me, it's the best thing you can do to get me going."


Nothing to do with supposedly having money on himself for being the first yellow card?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2011, 10:41:54 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 09, 2011, 09:49:13 PM
What more is there to say

At least he's frank about himself and that is admirable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2011, 11:16:59 AM
Just Puck it - Going a bit far there IMO

A bit of a sad indictment of a career with so much potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 10, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
You say admirable JC while other will say shooting his mouth off.

I'm with the latter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 10, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
You say admirable JC while other will say shooting his mouth off.

I'm with the latter.

I don't think you can call it shouting his mouth off when being interviewed giving frank answers, a lot of which reflect badly on him and telling people not in the know what positions he left Sambo and Woody in particular in now shows that they'd no other option to drop him. Granted he wants to be shown a bit more respect than he managed to show them, but the journalist picked up on it.
The piece is hardly flattering him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2011, 12:36:51 PM
What was the "you don't know who you are dealing with" nonsense to Cadogan? Is he in the Corkey mafia ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 10, 2011, 12:56:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 10, 2011, 12:36:51 PM
What was the "you don't know who you are dealing with" nonsense to Cadogan? Is he in the Corkey mafia ?

Paul Galvin with a hurl (and without the clothes and shoes)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2011, 02:05:08 PM
Sort of blows the low key under the radar approach to the semi final doesnt it.

Any word on the date of the game, Did I hear wrong that Loughgiel were objecting to playing under the lights on the saturday night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 10, 2011, 02:20:15 PM
From independant

Two second-half goals from Robbie Mahon and Conor McCormack helped Dublin record an eight-point win over Ulster Club champions Loughiel in their senior hurling challenge match at Naomh Mearnog yesterday lunchtime.

The experimental Dublin selection gave a lethargic first-half display and they trailed by 1-9 to 0-9 at the interval, with Joey Scullion availing of a rare Stephen Hiney slip to goal on 30 minutes for the Antrim club.

Dublin improved upon the restart and Mahon's goal in the 38th minute gave the hosts the lead for the first time.

McCormack's superb individual goal six minutes from the end sealed a satisfactory afternoon's work for manager Anthony Daly, who witnessed Conal Keaney's return to the county colours in their impressive 4-17 to 1-11 victory over NUI Galway on Friday night.

"We'll be missing roughly 11 for the upcoming Walsh Cup but I still think we'll have a nice team out, with Conal returning to the fold," said Daly.

Scorers -- Dublin: R Mahon, C McCormack 1-3 each, D O'Callaghan 0-4 (0-1f), P Carton, D Curtin (0-1f), T Connolly (0-1f) 0-2 each, D Plunkett, S Ryan, N McMorrow, P Gillan (own point) 0-1 each. Loughiel: J Scullion 1-4 (0-4f), B MacAuley 0-7 (0-5f, 0-1 '65'), B McCarry 0-2, C McKinley, D Laverty 0-1 each.

Dublin -- F McGarry; C Harney, S Hiney, O Gough; D Kelly, J Sheanon, M Quilty; D Curtin, D Plunkett; P Carton, C McCormack, R Mahon; D O'Callaghan, S Ryan, T Connolly. Subs: C Clinton for Plunkett (h-t), J Doughan for Sheanon (h-t), N McMorrow for Curtin (40).

Loughiel -- D Quinn; P Gillan, L McGarry, R McCloskey; Mark McFadden, J Campbell, M Scullion; D Laverty, B MacAuley; C McKinley, O McFadden, L McKillop; B McCarry, J Scullion, A Watt. Subs: T McFadden for M Scullion (30), D McKinley for Watt and Mick McFadden for Mark McFadden (45).

From Reservoir Dubs
Quote from: Countess tayto on Today at 09:50:52 AM
P Gillan (own point) 0-1 each.

How the F**k do you score an own point??

Quote from: Sky Blue on Today at 09:56:21 AM
How the F**k do you score an own point??

The defender was under a bit of pressure from Dotsy so tried to scoop the ball back to his keeper. Got a bit too much juice on it however and it sailed over the bar. Hilarious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 10, 2011, 02:20:15 PM
From independant

Two second-half goals from Robbie Mahon and Conor McCormack helped Dublin record an eight-point win over Ulster Club champions Loughiel in their senior hurling challenge match at Naomh Mearnog yesterday lunchtime.

The experimental Dublin selection gave a lethargic first-half display and they trailed by 1-9 to 0-9 at the interval, with Joey Scullion availing of a rare Stephen Hiney slip to goal on 30 minutes for the Antrim club.

Dublin improved upon the restart and Mahon's goal in the 38th minute gave the hosts the lead for the first time.

McCormack's superb individual goal six minutes from the end sealed a satisfactory afternoon's work for manager Anthony Daly, who witnessed Conal Keaney's return to the county colours in their impressive 4-17 to 1-11 victory over NUI Galway on Friday night.

"We'll be missing roughly 11 for the upcoming Walsh Cup but I still think we'll have a nice team out, with Conal returning to the fold," said Daly.

Scorers -- Dublin: R Mahon, C McCormack 1-3 each, D O'Callaghan 0-4 (0-1f), P Carton, D Curtin (0-1f), T Connolly (0-1f) 0-2 each, D Plunkett, S Ryan, N McMorrow, P Gillan (own point) 0-1 each. Loughiel: J Scullion 1-4 (0-4f), B MacAuley 0-7 (0-5f, 0-1 '65'), B McCarry 0-2, C McKinley, D Laverty 0-1 each.

Dublin -- F McGarry; C Harney, S Hiney, O Gough; D Kelly, J Sheanon, M Quilty; D Curtin, D Plunkett; P Carton, C McCormack, R Mahon; D O'Callaghan, S Ryan, T Connolly. Subs: C Clinton for Plunkett (h-t), J Doughan for Sheanon (h-t), N McMorrow for Curtin (40).

Loughiel -- D Quinn; P Gillan, L McGarry, R McCloskey; Mark McFadden, J Campbell, M Scullion; D Laverty, B MacAuley; C McKinley, O McFadden, L McKillop; B McCarry, J Scullion, A Watt. Subs: T McFadden for M Scullion (30), D McKinley for Watt and Mick McFadden for Mark McFadden (45).

From Reservoir Dubs
Quote from: Countess tayto on Today at 09:50:52 AM
P Gillan (own point) 0-1 each.

How the F**k do you score an own point??

Quote from: Sky Blue on Today at 09:56:21 AM
How the F**k do you score an own point??

The defender was under a bit of pressure from Dotsy so tried to scoop the ball back to his keeper. Got a bit too much juice on it however and it sailed over the bar. Hilarious.

I watched Ding a few times last year and he's fond of the back passes to DD, he got away with them in fairness then but there must be a bit of rust setting in that he'll need to shake out of the system.

Have the bodies many friendlies set up over the coming weeks?

I know the Johnnies were supposed to play a Down select yesterday but Staid Corrigan was frozen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2011, 04:03:01 PM
They are down to the Johnnies next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 10, 2011, 04:14:33 PM
Games against Jordanstown also I heard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 10, 2011, 04:23:23 PM
Think they played UCD on the Saturday before the Dubs yesterdayl.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on January 10, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
Watson's damned if does damned if he doesnt. Bottom line is he did an article, gave his opinoin on things and thats it. Im sure everyone will have an opininon on it but he'll or Loughgiel will hardly care.

Was speaking to some of the players last night. Had a good weekend in Dublin. Played UCD on saturday and got beat 0-15 -2-08. Played Dublin on sunday and got beat 2-19 - 1-15. Played well in both matches considering that they have a few injuries including Watson and Mc Closkey. At the end of the day these are challenege matches building up to the semi final in February. I believe that the boys will train hard and prepare well and regardless of what happens in February, they will be back to try and defend their crown in 2011.

Best of luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 11, 2011, 10:04:31 AM
I think this interview shows the naivety of Watson in speaking so candidly about his past misdemeanours.  I'm sure he didn't think his comments would be transcribed verbatim.  I believe he is being honest in what he says and admire him for it.  He realises himself that he is no angel but at least he is trying to do something about it. 

I have more of a gripe with the tone in which the article is written.  Mr Crowe appears to bring up more of the negative aspects of Watson's career (even delving into soccer) and less on the positives.  This article has come as part of the lead up to Loughgiel's All Ireland semi-final yet Crowe mentions it only briefly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 13, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Bump
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 14, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
According to someone on the hoganstand this is the team for sunday

Chrissy O' Connell (Loughgiel)

Arron Graffin (Cushendall)
Cormac Donnelly (Ballycastle)
Conor McKinley (Dunloy)

Kevin McKeague (Dunloy)
Michael Herron (Lambh Dhearg)
Neal McAuley (Ballycastle)

Shane McNaughton (Cushendall)
Karl Stewart (St Galls)

Michael Armstrong (Rossa)
Boris O'Connell (Ahoghill)
Thomas McCann (Creggan)

Darren Hamill (Glenarm)
Conor Carson (Cushendall)
Chris McGuinness (Rossa)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on January 14, 2011, 03:06:21 PM
just read the team, but some players were told this wouldn't be the final 15 so god knows. The full back line is strong enough, Mc Auley in half back the two midfielders ok but after that the rest are really at best squad hurlers 25 upwards. The keeper is included in that. I do though understand we have to try boys out, but if you are testing lads they must be introduced when we have as near to a full team were we can nurse them or carry them and Will have experience along side them. Your asking 6 forwards to hurl and theirs not a natural leader among them, no ball winner, no experience. I do before i get shot for being negative realise its a catch 22 without the Loughiel lads and Shorty its perhaps all we have available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
Wouldnt worry about it chance to blood some of the new guys we arent going to know if they can cut unless we try.

I will reserve judgement to I see if any of them have improved significantly from last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2011, 07:21:39 PM
What price Westmeath???

Did i not read somewhere that Karl Stewart was not available till start of league?

I would have loved us to get a crack at Dublin again but fear we could lose out, with 24 hours of rain expected the young lads up front will not win much ball on a heavy pitch. Westmeath have plenty of motivation when playing Antrim and this won't be an easy game. Agreed JamesH, the defence and midfield (should that be the team) is strong, watched Michael Herron play centrehalf back for his club last few seasons and he wins a lot of ball and this might work out better for him and Antrim.

I'll not be down for this game but will make the next should we win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 14, 2011, 09:50:19 PM
Interesting line out

Personally think its great to see so many Div2 hurlers getting a start. In every other county there are excellent hurlers from these leagues who are as good as anyone in Div1 so why not in Antrim. I hope it goes well

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 15, 2011, 11:36:08 PM
carsons pace will be badly exposed.....puzzled by Dinnys inclusion?

Goalkeeper?

Herron should give a decent account of himself in backs or forwards. He's a talented hurler, but he is definitely 1 of the 6 best forwards in antrim. Probably going to have to move up the field later in season.   

Where's Shields, P Richmond? Are they involved with antrim this year?

Hamill is an excellent sub to have for championship, and if on form should be pushing for starting 15.

Overall you would have to fancy Westmeaths chances, but its definitely the right time to try out new players. hopefully get a couple of positive performances to build on last years performances in championship.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2011, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: ruairi on January 15, 2011, 11:36:08 PM
carsons pace will be badly exposed.....puzzled by Dinnys inclusion?

Goalkeeper?

Herron should give a decent account of himself in backs or forwards. He's a talented hurler, but he is definitely 1 of the 6 best forwards in antrim. Probably going to have to move up the field later in season.   

Where's Shields, P Richmond? Are they involved with antrim this year?

Hamill is an excellent sub to have for championship, and if on form should be pushing for starting 15.

Overall you would have to fancy Westmeaths chances, but its definitely the right time to try out new players. hopefully get a couple of positive performances to build on last years performances in championship.

Carson not the worst, the weather will mean that the "Bear in the square" tactic is alive and kicking. No doubt it's the time to play the squad players. Don't run down your own players Ruairi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on January 16, 2011, 02:48:35 PM
Any update from the match in Mullingar?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 16, 2011, 02:51:41 PM
i was just giving my opinion. wasnt all negative. herron is very good and i hope that the other few new players that i have heard so much about step up. Can only benefit antrim. I just think theres no point including people in a panel who arent up to county hurling in my opinion. obviosly Dinny see's something different. 

I don't think the 'bear in the square' is still alive in county hurling. Maybe i could be wrong but mosts full backs in Ireland should be able to deal with our full forward.Thats why I asked about Paddy RIchmond. Quick over first 5 yards, vision and ability to take a tackle and take a score. 

 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 16, 2011, 03:02:13 PM
1-05 til 0-05 at half time to antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 16, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
Westmeath 2-09 2-07 Antrim

Is that a latest or a result?

Seems it wasnt!

Westmeath 2-11 3-12 Antrim FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 16, 2011, 04:00:55 PM
good scoring for a very inexperienced forward line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 16, 2011, 04:05:26 PM
That's a good result. westmeath are of a similar standard to antim. Well done to the inexperienced forward line.

Let preparations start for the next round.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 16, 2011, 05:56:48 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9363402.stm

Substitute PJ O'Connell was Antrim's hero as the Saffrons advanced to a Walsh Cup quarter-final against Dublin after this win in Mullingar on Sunday.

Antrim led 1-5 to 0-5 at half-time, with Michael Armstrong scoring the goal for Dinny Cahill's side.

Darren Hamill bagged a second Antrim goal before Brian Smyth and Alan Devine netted to put Westmeath in front.

O'Connell bagged 1-4 in the final quarter as the visitors held off a determined Westmeath challenge.

O'Connell was introduced with 10 minutes left and quickly turned the game in Antrim's favour.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2011, 06:59:44 PM
Ahoghill's PJ O'Connell proved the Antrim's hero at Mullingar on Sunday when a late scoring burst of 1-4 in the final ten minutes guided the Saffrons to victory over Westemeath in the opening round of the Walsh Cup.
With a largely experimental forward line on show Antrim did well in the opening half and boosted by a goal from newcomer Michael Armstrong they went on to lead by 1-5 to 0-5 at half-time.
Glenarm's Darren Hamill fired in a second goal for the visitors but Westmeath hit back and goals from Brian Smyth and Alan Devine put the Midlanders in front.
For a time it appeared that all Antrim's good work would go to waste but the introduction of O'Connell saw the game switch dramatically as the Cloney Gaels man grabbed a goal and four points in an amazing finish to see Antrim through to a semi-final meeting with Dublin on Sunday next. .

Great win for this inexperienced team. O'Connell at club level is something special. can win and usually does win games for his club on his own (I'm not disrespecting the other players at Clooney) If he baulks out a bit this year then at County level he'll be very good.

Should head down to Dublin next week. Be funny seeing Daly and Baker on opposing lines.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 16, 2011, 08:46:33 PM
Scoring 1-4 in 10 minutes of hurling is fairly impressive by any standards!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 17, 2011, 11:56:31 PM
Just heard that following the county meeting tonight the hurling leagues are staying as they were last year, so Ballycastle in Div 2 and St. John's in Div 1.  Also 2 to be relegated from Div 2 & 3 to make them 8 team leagues again in 2012.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 18, 2011, 08:34:08 AM
Quote from: aontroim on January 17, 2011, 11:56:31 PM
Just heard that following the county meeting tonight the hurling leagues are staying as they were last year, so Ballycastle in Div 2 and St. John's in Div 1.  Also 2 to be relegated from Div 2 & 3 to make them 8 team leagues again in 2012.

What are the complete line-ups per division?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2011, 02:21:23 PM
Oh dear! Was there a vote on this? How it pan out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 19, 2011, 01:22:35 PM
Are there any limitations to what you can do on here?  Any advice would be helpful!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 19, 2011, 02:23:44 PM
be blinkered in your support for your club, abuse people, dislike those who are already disliked and engage in rumour mongering for what happened where, as you heard from a good source and you'll be ok

oh and talk about hurling the odd time  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 19, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
At times its even better if you dont mention hurling at all!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 19, 2011, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 19, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
At times its even better if you dont mention hurling at all!

sure is it not a hurling forum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 19, 2011, 05:35:33 PM
It is but don't let that stop you not talking about it  :)

As long as your not the old admin from the antrim website I'm sure you'll enjoy contributing to the chat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 19, 2011, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 19, 2011, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 19, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
At times its even better if you dont mention hurling at all!

sure is it not a hurling forum?

you'll soon learn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 19, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
I'm a Ref lads obviously, so would like to contribute positively on any issues arising without any piss taking, and that doesn't mean shoot the messenger! MR2 you still at it, or have you decided its just too much hassle? Heard you had a good introduction but commitments didn't allow you to get better established.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 19, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
Maybe I should change my Handle to Maninredblueblack when the new referees kit takes the field for the National League.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2011, 08:36:30 PM
Commitments elsewhere have limited my involvement, will get back into it but would like to have a few more games with the club before i finally pack it in.

I enjoyed it but can be costly enough, i never claimed for doing any games i refereed. the hassle of getting the paper work up to casement was a nuisance.

I hope to be at it (and refereeing) later on. Maybe get a go at refereeing senior games, couldn't do any worse that whats about ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on January 19, 2011, 09:16:32 PM
We play Dublin this Sunday then.  How's everyone feel about the game?

After last year's qualifier in Croke, I'd like to see us continue to win against Dublin.  They are an opponent who we should be looking to beat every time we play them.  I'm not saying that we are so much better than them, but in order for us to see progression we want to leave the mind set that they are a team we can beat every time we go out on the pitch. 

From the game against Westmeath the forward line put up a good score for the limited experience they have.  It will be different against Dublin though, they'll have much more fire power than Westmeath.  Anyone know what sort of team they'll be putting out?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 18, 2011, 08:34:08 AM
What are the complete line-ups per division?

Presuming it will be as things finished last year;

DIV 1
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Dunloy
Ballycran
Ballygalget
Portaferry
Glenariffe
St. John's

DIV 2
Ballycastle
Rossa
Gaeil Chluana
Carey Faughs
St. Galls
Gort Na Mona
Tir na Nog
Lamh Dhearg
Glenarm

DIV 3
St. Paul's
Armoy
Cloughmills
Sarsfields
Cushendun
Rasharkin
Glenravel
Bredagh

DIV 4A
St. Teresas
St. Endas
St. Galls 2
Mc Dermotts
All Saints
Davitts

DIV 4B
St. Agnes
Creggan
Ballela
Ardoyne
Latharna Og
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
We have a player in div 4 B playing for Antrim! he must be lording it in that division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 19, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on January 19, 2011, 09:16:32 PM
We play Dublin this Sunday then.  How's everyone feel about the game?

After last year's qualifier in Croke, I'd like to see us continue to win against Dublin.  They are an opponent who we should be looking to beat every time we play them.  I'm not saying that we are so much better than them, but in order for us to see progression we want to leave the mind set that they are a team we can beat every time we go out on the pitch. 

From the game against Westmeath the forward line put up a good score for the limited experience they have.  It will be different against Dublin though, they'll have much more fire power than Westmeath.  Anyone know what sort of team they'll be putting out?

Dubs beat Limerick tonight in a challenge - 4 20 to 1 11.

Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 20, 2011, 09:06:26 AM
delighted to see the leagues stay the same, though Ballycastle was always a good game but...

Do think they should have give consideration to a play off between 2nd bottom div1 and 2nd in div2. The rationale being their seems to be a yoyo effect developing from div 1, st johns down and straight up, ballycastle will be hot favourites to do the same. I think its important the opportunity for promotion seems realistic to the remaining teams in the division, Rossa, St Galls especially

In terms of the county team I think we are developing the nucleas of a decent team, this improvement in our level together with the seeming mediocrity of a lot of other traditional big Counties (Cork, Clare, Limerick, Offaly, Dublin) means Antrim could see their stock rise this year again.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2011, 10:38:39 AM
It'll be interesting to see how Bredagh do in Div3. They're a handy enough outfit in the Down Div1 and should be able of getting results against St Pauls, Cushendun and the likes. If they can bring some of their young talent through then they might be in with a shout at promotion in their first year in that league.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 20, 2011, 01:19:07 PM
I heard that Carrickmore of Tyrone and Sean Treacys of Lurgan were looking to get into the Antrim league this year too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 20, 2011, 03:23:17 PM
leagues could get very complicated with a vast number of other teams starting appearing in. Although it may be to the benefit of Ulster hurling.

I would imagine Neil will be back into the team. Along with PJ to start. Maybe an appearance for Paddy McNaughton (although he only finished with our minors on 2nd January)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 20, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
We have a player in div 4 B playing for Antrim! he must be lording it in that division.

Are you serious MiltownRow?  A hurler who is playng in Div 4 is currently playing for Antrim?  If that is so, why is he not playing on your Div. 2 team?  HHHmmmmmm!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 20, 2011, 07:33:15 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 20, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
We have a player in div 4 B playing for Antrim! he must be lording it in that division.

Are you serious MiltownRow?  A hurler who is playng in Div 4 is currently playing for Antrim?  If that is so, why is he not playing on your Div. 2 team?  HHHmmmmmm!!

He means Thomas McCann creggan, not St Galls reserves!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 20, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 20, 2011, 07:33:15 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 20, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
We have a player in div 4 B playing for Antrim! he must be lording it in that division.

Are you serious MiltownRow?  A hurler who is playng in Div 4 is currently playing for Antrim?  If that is so, why is he not playing on your Div. 2 team?  HHHmmmmmm!!

He means Thomas McCann creggan, not St Galls reserves!

So he is talking about football? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
And so it continues.      WUM alert!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 21, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
And so it continues.      WUM alert!!!

Sure Thomas McCann got sent off for the footballers the other night and should be free to line out for the hurlers this weekend  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 21, 2011, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 21, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
And so it continues.      WUM alert!!!

Sure Thomas McCann got sent off for the footballers the other night and should be free to line out for the hurlers this weekend  ;)

Thanks Colonel. Is he part of the hurling panel? Sorry I did not know that either.

Anybody heading down to Parnel Park this Sunday?  Should be an interesting affair!  I hope the lads (although a diminished panel) put in another great performance against the Dubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 21, 2011, 08:17:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 19, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
I'm a Ref lads obviously, so would like to contribute positively on any issues arising without any piss taking, and that doesn't mean shoot the messenger! MR2 you still at it, or have you decided its just too much hassle? Heard you had a good introduction but commitments didn't allow you to get better established.

Hi there Ref.  Are you looking for any umpires?  I would maybe consider taking up this role but I am not 100% sure how to go about it?  I hear, the boys are getting some nice new gear from Croker and are also going to get paid at least £30.00 a match plus travelling expenses to games, just like the referees.  I would be interested more so, if thats the case!

I was just reading an intersting article recently, which I though to be very poignant.  The gist of the article was this and I quote: " If players did not foul, transgress, abuse officials such as the referee, strike others with the stick or their fist, trip or kick an opponent, and played within the rules of the game, there would be no whistle blowing, name taking, issuing of red/yellow cards and therefore no need for referees".  But it did not say there was no need for umpires.  Thats why I am looking to get my name on the umpire books!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 21, 2011, 08:48:43 PM
Almost forgot.  Great news about our Ger (Ger Rogan) getting the Derry job, both Senior and U21's.  Sure to be raking in a few shackles for that role!  Good to see the true hurling commitment from a fellow Rossa man helping another county out.  I must call to the club on Thursday night and see if Ger is going to decorate the bar with a few free scoops.

Isn't it great that others see fit to call on clubmen such as ours to revitalise hurling in an ailing county such as Derry! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on January 22, 2011, 11:16:39 AM
*sigh*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 22, 2011, 03:15:13 PM
good luck to the team on Sunday. It will be a much tougher test. Dublin have improved dramatically in last 5 years and at the moment are, in my opinion, better than alot of the "traditional" teams. Hopefully some of the new faces can perform again.

Westmeath was a good scalp to take as they aren't that far off antrim, and well capable of beating us on their day. Sunday will see exactly how much pride and determination this team has against an even better standard of team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 23, 2011, 01:26:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 21, 2011, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 21, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
And so it continues.      WUM alert!!!

Sure Thomas McCann got sent off for the footballers the other night and should be free to line out for the hurlers this weekend  ;)

Thanks Colonel. Is he part of the hurling panel? Sorry I did not know that either.

Anybody heading down to Parnel Park this Sunday?  Should be an interesting affair!  I hope the lads (although a diminished panel) put in another great performance against the Dubs.

Epic Fail there

Anyway, I see from the county website it says that Jim Connolly has taken over as Rossa manager. Should be a good response
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2011, 08:53:55 PM
Good to see lads like Jim getting involved with the teams. Jim has been working with juveniles for a while and I glad that he has taken this on. Hope he instills the passion and commitment needed to get out of div 2 and compete at senior again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 24, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner

We are managerless  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 24, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner

We are managerless  :'(

No one interested Minder? I heard Dominic Kearns is taking Glenarm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: S Áine on January 25, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
St Galls GAC would like to hear from anyone outside the club who may be interested in managing the club's senior hurling team. Contact Davy Cherry via club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 25, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
Good Luck to the Jonnies on Sunday, a word of warning though, keep the mouths shut on the pitch and on the sideline, take the knocks as they come, the referee Fergus Smith(Meath) will crucify you for bitch n and verbals, john gough will tell you that he lets it go within reason, which will suit the KK lads! So you have been warned lads, good luck but keep it shut and play it hard, your not in Antrim now they don't give a fiddlers down there!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 24, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner

We are managerless  :'(

No one interested Minder? I heard Dominic Kearns is taking Glenarm?

Seems not, there was talk Kevin McNaughton from Cdall was gonna do it but evidently not. Aye Kearns is managing Glenarm, dunno how that will go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 25, 2011, 05:54:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 25, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 24, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner

We are managerless  :'(

No one interested Minder? I heard Dominic Kearns is taking Glenarm?

Seems not, there was talk Kevin McNaughton from Cdall was gonna do it but evidently not. Aye Kearns is managing Glenarm, dunno how that will go.

Kevin going to Glenariffe would have been a funny one. Not sure how that would have been received. Where as Im sure Kearns will take no shit up in Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Where's this game at for the Johnnies? Cork boys? I thought they were playing Dicksboro from Kilkenny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2011, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 25, 2011, 05:54:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 25, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 24, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 24, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Who's managing the other sides in the county. As previously mentioned we have Jackie & Skinner

We are managerless  :'(
No one interested Minder? I heard Dominic Kearns is taking Glenarm?

Seems not, there was talk Kevin McNaughton from Cdall was gonna do it but evidently not. Aye Kearns is managing Glenarm, dunno how that will go.

Kevin going to Glenariffe would have been a funny one. Not sure how that would have been received. Where as Im sure Kearns will take no shit up in Glenarm.

It wouldn't have been a problem for the players anyway as I believe we approached him, he is a very decent fella from what I have heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 25, 2011, 06:33:41 PM
Quote from: S Áine on January 25, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
St Galls GAC would like to hear from anyone outside the club who may be interested in managing the club's senior hurling team. Contact Davy Cherry via club.

I might be interested in this position, but it would have to be a good package indeed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 25, 2011, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
Where's this game at for the Johnnies? Cork boys? I thought they were playing Dicksboro from Kilkenny

Mullingar in the Co. Westmeath.  Dicksboro (Kilkenny) will tank them, and as for keeping their mouths shut, impossible, this is St. John's dont forget!  Miltown, you would know all about good Kilkenny Intermediate teams, although your lads hurled well against them in the first half of your final last year.   Very dissapointing in the 2nd half though, but probably due to too many footballers.  St. Johns should not have that problem as they have no footballers at all. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 08:23:46 PM
That's some trip for the Johnnies, did i read right that the match is on at 1.00pm??

they'll have to head down the night before, that's expensive. Big pitch may suit the Kilkenny side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 25, 2011, 10:50:57 PM
lads, trying to get a friendly organised fotr my club, wolfe tone, derrymacash.  Came 4th in armagh division 2 last year.  ideal date would be Friday 11th February(our pitch is being done up at the minute,so pitch would need floodlights.) Sunday 13th,20,27th March also possible dates.  If anyone interested or can point me in the right direction please pm me.  cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on January 26, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
Minder your right Kevin is a good man perhaps the old saying is apt " your never prophet in your own land" he would be well thought of in most clubs. I don't know how he would take to Oisins as he is a stickler for discipline and playing most weeks with 13/14 a side wouldn't please him to much, on the odd occasion 12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
Sure thats half the craic with them boys JamesH  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 26, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 08:23:46 PM
That's some trip for the Johnnies, did i read right that the match is on at 1.00pm??

they'll have to head down the night before, that's expensive. Big pitch may suit the Kilkenny side
A club that can put their Feile teams up in hotels can afford an aul night in Mullingar.
Well, there is always the possibility of the odd Northern Bank in Mullingar, if you catch my drift?  Not that I am suggesting this for one second, but you never know! :D 

It's at 13.00, as the Dicksboro lads want to get this one out of the road early and get back to worrying who they will play in the Final. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 27, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 26, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 08:23:46 PM
That's some trip for the Johnnies, did i read right that the match is on at 1.00pm??

they'll have to head down the night before, that's expensive. Big pitch may suit the Kilkenny side
A club that can put their Feile teams up in hotels can afford an aul night in Mullingar.
Well, there is always the possibility of the odd Northern Bank in Mullingar, if you catch my drift?  Not that I am suggesting this for one second, but you never know! :D 

It's at 13.00, as the Dicksboro lads want to get this one out of the road early and get back to worrying who they will play in the Final. :o

So you don't give them any chance at all múinteoirmór ? Why is that, I think if they can get at them from the 1st ball and keep their cool they have every chance, Mc Faul on his day is a handfull for anyone, some of the younger lads just need to keep the focus. The half back line would be the only worry I would have, Cunningham may be the weakness IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 27, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 27, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 26, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2011, 08:23:46 PM
That's some trip for the Johnnies, did i read right that the match is on at 1.00pm??

they'll have to head down the night before, that's expensive. Big pitch may suit the Kilkenny side
A club that can put their Feile teams up in hotels can afford an aul night in Mullingar.
Well, there is always the possibility of the odd Northern Bank in Mullingar, if you catch my drift?  Not that I am suggesting this for one second, but you never know! :D 

It's at 13.00, as the Dicksboro lads want to get this one out of the road early and get back to worrying who they will play in the Final. :o

So you don't give them any chance at all múinteoirmór ? Why is that, I think if they can get at them from the 1st ball and keep their cool they have every chance, Mc Faul on his day is a handfull for anyone, some of the younger lads just need to keep the focus. The half back line would be the only worry I would have, Cunningham may be the weakness IMO
They do not play with any intensity or as a team.  They are too much reliant on a few individuals to perform, namely Cunningham, McFall's. They move the ball slowly and tend to take to much out of it with the solo on stick and hand pass.  There are no aerial ball winners among them either IMO.  Apart from that, their indiscipline, as you rightly pointed out will come to haunt them!  I have no doubt about that at all.  That keeper of thiers, I dont know his name mind you, is a bit of an idiot/loose cannon also. You, being a Rossa man and a referee also,  can surely endorse their continuous foul play and serious lack of discipline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 27, 2011, 08:32:39 PM
Whatever my club is or isn't has no relevance to whether they stand a chance, totally disagree with your synopsis, sounds like you have come a cropper with them and some stage and is tainting your judgment! They are 1st an Antrim Team, secondly an Ulster representation at the business end of the season and no matter what parish/city rivalry exists we should be behind them for what is a tremendous opportunity to hopefully have 2 Antrim Teams in All Ireland club finals, the shamrocks have nothing to fear from what I have seen except the ability to mentally push on and make the final hope Liam has a blinder, about time we got behind our clubs and referees! Instead of sniping from the picket fences! We get enough of that from the 26 don't you agree, you sound like a blue shirt to me múinteoirmór ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 27, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 27, 2011, 08:32:39 PM
Whatever my club is or isn't has no relevance to whether they stand a chance, totally disagree with your synopsis, sounds like you have come a cropper with them and some stage and is tainting your judgment! They are 1st an Antrim Team, secondly an Ulster representation at the business end of the season and no matter what parish/city rivalry exists we should be behind them for what is a tremendous opportunity to hopefully have 2 Antrim Teams in All Ireland club finals, the shamrocks have nothing to fear from what I have seen except the ability to mentally push on and make the final hope Liam has a blinder, about time we got behind our clubs and referees! Instead of sniping from the picket fences! We get enough of that from the 26 don't you agree, you sound like a blue shirt to me múinteoirmór ;)

A (true) Blue and Yellow shirt if you don't mind Ref!

Lets be honest here, Loughgiel are one thing, St. John's are a completely different kettle of fish all together!  I know who my money will be on to reach an All Ireland Final.

With reference to the 26, who is sniping?  You asked for my opinion as to why I don't give St. Johns a chance.  I gave you my honest slant on things and you do not seem to like that.  Sure all referees, and particularly in our wee part of the world up here, don't seem to welcome the opinions of others anyway!  The referees here in Antrim and Ulster for that matter are totally insignificant if you ask me. You could count on a few digits of one hand the ulster referees who come anywhere near the standard of the referees in the republic (26). Possibly one or two from Antrim, One from Derry, beyond that, I am not too familiar with the rest.  I cant understand why you are bringing referees into this anyway, seems like you have some issues, strange!

I will agree with you on one thing here.  Loughgiel are certainly at the business end of things, I am not really sure I would say the same for the John's, but time will tell I feel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 27, 2011, 08:46:21 PM
A familiar tag team this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
Anyway ::)

Think St Johns could get beat handy here. Dicksboro have won this competition before and are a quality team no doubt. Should St Johns move the ball quick and get their tackles in quicker they may have a chance. (To keep the score down)

We played last year ( St Lactain's) and i was amazed at how quick they could move the ball and how easy they could score under pressure. (why should i be amazed at a Kilkenny team being able to score so easily :o :o)

Hope though the Johnnies give them a game

Edit:

hold that, just read that Dicksboro have in house problems, new management an two key players out for the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 27, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
Anyway ::)

Think St Johns could get beat handy here. Dicksboro have won this competition before and are a quality team no doubt. Should St Johns move the ball quick and get their tackles in quicker they may have a chance. (To keep the score down)

We played last year ( St Lactain's) and i was amazed at how quick they could move the ball and how easy they could score under pressure. (why should i be amazed at a Kilkenny team being able to score so easily :o :o)

Hope though the Johnnies give them a game
A very clever, articulate and intelligent synopsis Miltown.  I agree with you whole heartedly.  I really do belive St. John's cant move it quick enough.  They also fail to convert up front when it matters, IMO.  If Dicksboro are anything like the team your lads played last year, the John's will come up real short.  To be honest, I think your lads would give a better account of themselves if they were in the semis/final this year.  I really cant see the John's progressing beyond Sunday, but I am prepared to eat my words.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 29, 2011, 02:54:25 AM
St johns will hopefully surprise a few people on this. They have nothing to fear from an intermediate kk team.

good luck from cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackSpot on January 30, 2011, 03:07:10 PM
St John's beaten by 4 points.

If it's true that Ballycastle have considered this route would they get any further?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
Could never see Ballycastle go down that route. where ya here that Blackspot? Have Ballycastle ever played Intermediate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackSpot on January 30, 2011, 05:10:12 PM
Dunno if they've ever played Intermediate.  It was a Ballycastle man I heard say it but he can be a bit of a winder so there's maybe nothing to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 30, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
Well lads, I told ya so!  Maybe not a "tanking"  as I predicted, but same result/outcome, all the same.  Seems you and I were right MR2, at least your lads made it to the final last year, and only for the football committment, who knows?  Will the Johns maybe try the Junior level next year, hhmmmmm!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2011, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 30, 2011, 08:54:48 PM
Well lads, I told ya so!  Maybe not a "tanking"  as I predicted, but same result/outcome, all the same.  Seems you and I were right MR2, at least your lads made it to the final last year, and only for the football committment, who knows?  Will the Johns maybe try the Junior level next year, hhmmmmm!

Good to see you supporting your own county múinteoirmór ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on January 31, 2011, 03:41:41 AM
4 points is def not a tanking in hurling.its a pity they didnt make it to the final. would have been nice for another northern team to get there.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 02:19:20 PM
Thats right Groundlie, we are playing in the Division we are capable of playing in, not getting beyond ourselves.  I dont see what you are so upset about.  I made a predcition, I was right.  Sour grapes maybe????  ;)

And of course, you will be playing Senior Championship next year, a bit out of your depth/division dont you think?  Tut, tutt, tutt!!!  ::)

We know at what level we can punch our weight.

Just to be frank here, I have no love for the Johns (as a true O'Donavan Rossa man) and I am sure the feeling is mutual!  Note I call the Johnnies "the John's" as I dont think there is anything Saintly about them!  With respect, I have my reasons for that which I will not go into here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
Hi MR2, any thruth in the rumour of a planned coup at the Noamh Gall AGM. Just heard a few mutterings (bearing in mind we are near neighbours) that a certain prominent Noamh Gall person, some of inlaws/outlaws and some of his notorious sidekicks had the wheels in motion to try and oust the present executive officers.  I hear he bottled it in the end and the present incumbents prevailed.  Thank god for common sense!!!   Any truth, views or comments??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 31, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
Executive officers clinging on!!! There can't be many of the old guard left. I'd be shaking his hand and let him knock himself out.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 31, 2011, 05:35:35 PM
múinteoirmór what is your problem, by all accounts they missed some chances which could have won the game, fair play to them not easy opponents from what i heard today! You seem to take great enjoyment from what I'm sure was a gut wrenching day for some of the lads, If you are are real rossa man ;) then the day when Buffers gave use a lesson should still be fresh and you wouldn't have taken to kindly to this sort of cynical attack.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2011, 05:56:30 PM
Was not at the AGM had a prior engagement with Santa!! Great to see people interested in club affairs. I'm with Last Man on this topic. Knock yourself out. Most thankless job in GAA. Next to senior manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
MR2. to be honest, I was just curious.! You dont tend to hear that sort of thing about Noamh Gall.  Dont get me wrong, I am all for change, providing it has a purpose, but when McG & Sons and his cohorts are making a bid to take over, it would certainly suggest " there's trouble at mill! :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 31, 2011, 05:35:35 PM
múinteoirmór what is your problem, by all accounts they missed some chances which could have won the game, fair play to them not easy opponents from what i heard today! You seem to take great enjoyment from what I'm sure was a gut wrenching day for some of the lads, If you are are real rossa man ;) then the day when Buffers gave use a lesson should still be fresh and you wouldn't have taken to kindly to this sort of cynical attack.

To be honest, I don't have a problem other than they failed to convert up front as I stated in a previous posting.  Are you not telling me the same thing in that "they missed some chances" - sounds like it to me.  There in lies the lesson MIBAG, they did not convert vital scoring chances. Why do you doubt that I am a  "real rossa man".  yes I was at Killmallock, Patrickswell, in Limerick for the semis and also at Croke for the Buffers match (1989).  If we had of had a decent goalkeeper when Seamus O'Leary and Paddy Donahue ripped the net, we were sure to have a different result.  The keeper cost us the match that day. Well, I think I understand and can empathise with being gutted.  At least we made the final.  And also consider, this was at Senior level, not intermediate.  We punched our own weight at the top level!!!  Not a synical attack at all, a real and educated calculation of the Johns.  Their ambition far exceeded their ability, dont you think?  Dropping down to Intermediate, just like playing a ringer in U16 level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:14:36 PM
MR2, any sign of a hurling manager yet?  Has anyone expressed interest yet?  Maybe you are considering throwing your name in the hat again. You had reasonable success last year with your lads!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2011, 07:31:20 PM
No manager yet. Current players need someone else to push them on. St the makings of a good division one team there if they want it. I'll drift back in a few years and get involved. harder than you think looking after a senior team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 31, 2011, 07:28:36 PM
Was Paddy Quinn not man of the match in the '88 county final?
Did Tony Doran not start?
Was Dee Murray's knee not the reason why he tore Rossa a new one?

No, tony was brought on as a sub in the second half.  He did help set up one of the goals that our keeper made a complete flummox of!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2011, 07:31:20 PM
No manager yet. Current players need someone else to push them on. St the makings of a good division one team there if they want it. I'll drift back in a few years and get involved. harder than you think looking after a senior team!

I know MR.  I am sure it is also hard when the key focus in Noamh Gall seems to be football and the dual player scenario can also be difficult to contend with.  I have to agree, some good hurlers at your club, a terrible pity and a waste.  A few I could name:  McAreavey, Keiran McGourty, Karl and a possible few others.  How did you deal with the dual players role last year with the Itermediate championship and senior football run?  It cannot have been easy at all.  Can you envisage that hurling may become the dominant code in Noamh Gall in the future or will the focus always be on the cissy game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
Getting down to the more serious stuff.  Who do Loughgiel play in the All Ireland series?  Has this been confirmed yet?  I would be eager to pencil this into my diary so that I can go down and give the boys a cheer.  They have real pedigree those lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 31, 2011, 07:55:47 PM
múinteoirmór whats your opinion on Jim taking the seniors this year? Looks to me that you are cloaking here, seem to know a lot about St Galls ::) You wouldn't happen to play a musical instrument would you ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 31, 2011, 07:55:47 PM
múinteoirmór whats your opinion on Jim taking the seniors this year? Looks to me that you are cloaking here, seem to know a lot about St Galls ::) You wouldn't happen to play a musical instrument would you ;)

Well, we are near neighbours and news travels up the lane fast!  My views on Jim Connolly taking the seniors I hear you ask?  A BIG mistake in my book! Jim was a fine hurler, no question, but as a manager of a team, I would have major concerns and serious reservations.  You see, I also know about my own club and I would guess a lot more than you do.  I am still very much involved in my club administration.  I doubt seriously that you can say the same! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 01, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
Getting down to the more serious stuff.  Who do Loughgiel play in the All Ireland series?  Has this been confirmed yet?  I would be eager to pencil this into my diary so that I can go down and give the boys a cheer.  They have real pedigree those lads.


19.02.11 (Sat)
Semi Final   Clarinbridge V De La Salle Time: TBC, Venue: TBC

Semi Final   O`Loughlin Gaels V Loch gCaol Seamroga  Time: TBC, Venue: TBC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 01, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 01, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
Getting down to the more serious stuff.  Who do Loughgiel play in the All Ireland series?  Has this been confirmed yet?  I would be eager to pencil this into my diary so that I can go down and give the boys a cheer.  They have real pedigree those lads.


19.02.11 (Sat)
Semi Final   Clarinbridge V De La Salle Time: TBC, Venue: TBC

Semi Final   O`Loughlin Gaels V Loch gCaol Seamroga  Time: TBC, Venue: TBC

I'd suspect it'll either be in Parnell park or Mullingar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 01, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
I thought it might have been in casement...would bring back AI memories of yore  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 01, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 01, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
I thought it might have been in casement...would bring back AI memories of yore  ;)

That old chestnut, but then the old one's are the best, eh skull. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 01, 2011, 11:50:08 AM
I'm not sure about the Johnnies dropping to Intermediate. Having seen them hammer the Antrim teams, I thought they'd have been better buying a trophy if they wanted one that much. I then watched them be hurled off the park in the Ulster final. Only for Carrickmore's missed chances, they could have been beaten by 12.

Well said Hardstaion, I could not agree more.  They nearly came a cropper against Carrickmore, and just imagine it, a Tyrone Hurling team beating the Johns.  Would you belive it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 01, 2011, 12:19:31 PM
Im not speaking about intermed here. I personally didnt agree with dropping to that level, didnt gain anything from it. Im speaking about Division 1.

All that glitters, is not silver Groundlie. We would have lent you a cup if the Johns really wanted one that bad!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 01, 2011, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 02:19:20 PM
Thats right Groundlie, we are playing in the Division we are capable of playing in, not getting beyond ourselves.  I dont see what you are so upset about.  I made a predcition, I was right.  Sour grapes maybe????  ;)

And of course, you will be playing Senior Championship next year, a bit out of your depth/division dont you think?  Tut, tutt, tutt!!!  ::)

We know at what level we can punch our weight.

Just to be frank here, I have no love for the Johns (as a true O'Donavan Rossa man) and I am sure the feeling is mutual!  Note I call the Johnnies "the John's" as I dont think there is anything Saintly about them!  With respect, I have my reasons for that which I will not go into here.

Not getting beyond ourselves? Sounds like sour grapes from you múinteoirmór. So are you trying to say if you had won division 2 like 'the johns' did you would have stayed in division 2 as you wouldn't want to get beyond yourselves? Sounds like a complete lack of ambition from Rossa which to me has been clearly evident as you haven't managed to even get close to promotion in the 4 years you have been in that division. Also 'the johns' won division 2 comprehensively so if you ask me you can't even punch your weight at division 2.

Yeah, because I believe our current hurling status, only merits playing in Div 2.  I dont see anything wrong with that.  Like the Johns, we are going through a rebuilding process and it 's worth remembering, there is not a great wealth of hurling talent in the city at present.  Especially at Senior Level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 01, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on January 31, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
Getting down to the more serious stuff.  Who do Loughgiel play in the All Ireland series?  Has this been confirmed yet?  I would be eager to pencil this into my diary so that I can go down and give the boys a cheer.  They have real pedigree those lads.


19.02.11 (Sat)
Semi Final   Clarinbridge V De La Salle Time: TBC, Venue: TBC

Semi Final   O`Loughlin Gaels V Loch gCaol Seamroga  Time: TBC, Venue: TBC

Thanks for that Pdiddy!  I certainly think Loughgiel have a great chance.  I was not overly impressed by O'Loughlin Gaels last sunday.  They look quite ordinary, if the truth be told.  I would love to see the Shamrocks flourish and go all the way.  That would be a great achievement for them, to win the championship again.  The best of luck to them lads.  I certainly feel if they can draw Brian Hogan out of the full back position and play the ball in behind him fast, they can score at will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: S Áine on February 01, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Cork hurling goalkeeper Donal Og Cusack will be visiting Cumann Naomh Gall on Thursday 3rd and Fri 4th Feb. At 8.00pm on the Thursday he will be promoting his book and facilitating a question and answer session in the club rooms. On the Friday he will take local under 14 and 16 players for a two hour master class at 12.00pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: S Áine on February 01, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Cork hurling goalkeeper Donal Og Cusack will be visiting Cumann Naomh Gall on Thursday 3rd and Fri 4th Feb. At 8.00pm on the Thursday he will be promoting his book and facilitating a question and answer session in the club rooms. On the Friday he will take local under 14 and 16 players for a two hour master class at 12.00pm.

Send him up to the 'John's' afterwards.  They could do with a good keeper!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
Saturday 19.02.2011

AIB GAA Hurling All Ireland Senior Club Championship Semi-Finals

Parnell PK 2.00pm O'Loughlin Gaels v Loughgiel Shamrocks
Referee: TBC
(E.T. if Necessary)


What price Loughgiel for the entire championship, anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 01, 2011, 08:45:48 PM
Loughgeil 14/1 with PP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 02, 2011, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 02, 2011, 11:52:17 AM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 01, 2011, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: S Áine on February 01, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Cork hurling goalkeeper Donal Og Cusack will be visiting Cumann Naomh Gall on Thursday 3rd and Fri 4th Feb. At 8.00pm on the Thursday he will be promoting his book and facilitating a question and answer session in the club rooms. On the Friday he will take local under 14 and 16 players for a two hour master class at 12.00pm.

Send him up to the 'John's' afterwards.  They could do with a good keeper!  ;D

Might I just add that Rossa conceded 5 goals against us in the league, but aye múinteoirmór we could do with the good keeper, idiot.

You are getting very personal laddy. I think you should really lighten up a little! But sure the Johns are a Div 1. team and Antrim & Ulster 'INTERMEDIATE' Champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 02, 2011, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 01, 2011, 08:45:48 PM
Loughgeil 14/1 with PP.

Many thanks Minder.  I think I will have a little piece of that!  I hear some of the Loughgiels lads got them at 30/1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 02, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...chances are its a duck  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 02, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Anyone at home know how Loughiel's preparations are going for the semifinal? Have they many challenge games under their belt? what a bout injuries etc.. Are Shamrocks a decent enough out fit? Will they represent Antrim well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 02, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 02, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...chances are its a duck  :)

nutters

Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 02, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Anyone at home know how Loughiel's preparations are going for the semifinal? Have they many challenge games under their belt? what a bout injuries etc.. Are Shamrocks a decent enough out fit? Will they represent Antrim well?

Did St Johns not beat them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on February 02, 2011, 11:33:09 PM
stuffed them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 03, 2011, 10:50:46 AM
Yeh, preparations not going well at all.  Getting beat in almost every challange match and a few injuries to boot.  Can't understand why anyone would back a team at 30/1 in a 4 horse race  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 03, 2011, 10:52:26 AM
Johnnies stuffed lgiel??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 03, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Rumour has it that the shamrocks are training hard as you would expect, although as of last Tuesday the prodigal son still hasn't turned up to train, i can't see him starting. The rest of the lads are not best pleased although i see he's playing away for DC, the lure of the mighty dollar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on February 03, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
the prodigal son has left the panel at the players request. Loughgiel have been beaten in all their challenge games and have picked up 3-4 injuries. All in all i would say preparations good aparat from that. Would say we have an outside chance say 33/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 03, 2011, 01:05:20 PM
Youse will be a better team without him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 03, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: JamesH on February 03, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Rumour has it that the shamrocks are training hard as you would expect, although as of last Tuesday the prodigal son still hasn't turned up to train, i can't see him starting. The rest of the lads are not best pleased although i see he's playing away for DC, the lure of the mighty dollar.

You'd have to hope that Babs isn't over training them and is easing off this week to allow the legs to recover and get a bit of freshness in them!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on February 03, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
Anyone know the complete line ups for the divisions this year and when is the leagues starting?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 03, 2011, 03:36:28 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on February 03, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
the prodigal son has left the panel at the players request. Loughgiel have been beaten in all their challenge games and have picked up 3-4 injuries. All in all i would say preparations good aparat from that. Would say we have an outside chance say 33/1

What are the chances of a return and him appearing off the bench after 10 minutes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 03, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
TM83 i don't believe that, i Will as like most hurling people expect to see him line out on the 19th . You believe and rightly so that you won't win without him , i believe it won't matter anyway. If your club had tried to sort him out years ago imagine the player he could be now. But your there now so there's nothing to lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 03, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
Ah Lads, don tell me LW is not training or playing on the Shamrocks team, that is a major loss for them, if that is this case?  To say the team would be better of without him, I am not sure about that at all!  Sure the lad would grace any good club/county team in the country on his day.  A real pity! Stunned!  Lets be honest, what team in the country would not want a lad of that calibre and abilty on their team?  A terrible, terrible waste!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 03, 2011, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 03, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
Ah Lads, don tell me LW is not training or playing on the Shamrocks team, that is a major loss for them, if that is this case?  To say the team would be better of without him, I am not sure about that at all!  Sure the lad would grace any good club/county team in the country on his day.  A real pity! Stunned!  Lets be honest, what team in the country would not want a lad of that calibre and abilty on their team?  A terrible, terrible waste!

The calibre appears too often, its the other things that in the way. What other club/county would let him get away with what he has done for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 03, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 03, 2011, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 03, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
Ah Lads, don tell me LW is not training or playing on the Shamrocks team, that is a major loss for them, if that is this case?  To say the team would be better of without him, I am not sure about that at all!  Sure the lad would grace any good club/county team in the country on his day.  A real pity! Stunned!  Lets be honest, what team in the country would not want a lad of that calibre and abilty on their team?  A terrible, terrible waste!

The calibre appears too often, its the other things that in the way. What other club/county would let him get away with what he has done for years.
I concur Colonel, with respect, but what a waste.  It must be difficult for the other lads, no question about that, but I am sure, all things being equal, they would want him on the staring line upon the 19th Feb and hopefully the 17th March!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 03, 2011, 06:10:34 PM
Colonel if he was on the Kalibre it would suit him better, (we plug for our first sponsors)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 04, 2011, 08:53:24 AM
How many times have we heard this before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 04, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
Ah lads you's seem to revel in the whole Watson on/off panel thing  :'(

Watson is on the Panel - FACT. 
Watson is Training - FACT.
Watson will help Loughgiel into an All Ireland Final - ....  lets just wait and see on that one  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 04, 2011, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 04, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
Ah lads you's seem to revel in the whole Watson on/off panel thing  :'(

Watson is on the Panel - FACT. 
Watson is Training - FACT.
Watson will help Loughgiel into an All Ireland Final - ....  lets just wait and see on that one  ;)

Good Man Pdiddy  ;).  I am gald to hear that for Loughgiels sake.  Where did these rumours originate from?  From an over zealous 'Johns' man maybe?  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 04, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
I think its Loughgiel who seem to revel in the will he/won't saga that follows him into every single big match he plays. 

very open championship this year, unlike most i was impressed with O'Loughlin Gaels on Sunday, serious hunger in that team, Oulart for all there hurling just couldn't get away from them and the game had swung before the red
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 04, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 04, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
I think its Loughgiel who seem to revel in the will he/won't saga that follows him into every single big match he plays. 

very open championship this year, unlike most i was impressed with O'Loughlin Gaels on Sunday, serious hunger in that team, Oulart for all there hurling just couldn't get away from them and the game had swung before the red


Not on this forum, which is the case I was making.  tommoore made a tongue-in-cheek comment which was picked up on by quite a few posters who ran with it in the belief (hope) that it was true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 04, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
How was anyone meant to read tom moores post as tongue in cheek? If it's not true it's not true..... lets move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 04, 2011, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 04, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 04, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
I think its Loughgiel who seem to revel in the will he/won't saga that follows him into every single big match he plays. 

very open championship this year, unlike most i was impressed with O'Loughlin Gaels on Sunday, serious hunger in that team, Oulart for all there hurling just couldn't get away from them and the game had swung before the red


Not on this forum, which is the case I was making.  tommoore made a tongue-in-cheek comment which was picked up on by quite a few posters who ran with it in the belief (hope) that it was true.
I for one, surely hope it is not true!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 04, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
Jesus múinteoirmór you seem to close to the shamrocks? Any more friendly matches b4 the big day? Congrats to Owen Elliott and Herbie for their postings to the Junior A I Final on the 13th, Duffy got it last year, hope ray gets something of substance this year also, he deserves it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
I hope he's playing, heading down, should stay the night. have a few pints in the Capital.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 04, 2011, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 04, 2011, 05:32:10 PM
Jesus múinteoirmór you seem to close to the shamrocks? Any more friendly matches b4 the big day? Congrats to Owen Elliott and Herbie for their postings to the Junior A I Final on the 13th, Duffy got it last year, hope ray gets something of substance this year also, he deserves it.

No, not close to Loughgiel specifically.  Close to all County Antrim teams really, with a few exceptions!  I would not want to get too close to you either, you being a fellow Rossa man, well so you say!.  You appear to be one in the know about referees.  I hear that Ray, who apparently referees for our club now is well past it.  At least thats what some of our fellas our saying in the club?  By all accounts carrying an injury last year and had intimated he was retiring.  Our fellas are worrying therefore, we will have no referee and will have to play all our home games away.  Well, I suppose he has had his day really, but from what I gather he is always the potential to do a Lazarus! He seems well known for wanting to hog the limelight but tends to accumulate enemies/casualties along the way. So if any of you fellas have any spare referees out there, we would be pleased to hear from them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2011, 01:20:10 AM
think its half the country that actually wish watson wasn't training or playing, sad really, us shamrocks no, he is training will play at 15 as like he done all year.  sorry for your troubles ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2011, 01:27:25 AM
To stop those feelings of paranoia, it might help if you stopped thinking then. It's great to have one of the LG selectors on here though. Any chance you could tell us the rest of the team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 05, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 04, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
Does he not ref for Glenavy? If it's the same Ray. Refs are hard to keep a hold of though. Paudie Mullan must have reffed for every club in Belfast. Speaking of Rays. I was surprised that a Ray has put his name forward for chairman of Rossa.

As I said Hardstation, he is well known to want to hog the limelight! But soon throws the toys out of the pram, so to speak!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on February 05, 2011, 01:38:44 PM
Sorry lads, just catching up on some reported posts in here now. Ye seem to have sorted it out among yourself, but ManinBlackandGreen, no more of that nonsense. Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2011, 07:49:19 PM
lets just say seeing is believing, lot of crap talked on here, been to most training sessions. Watson's going well.  not sure about team, should be unchanged, one small doubt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
McCloskey?? 

What I've noticed these last few years at the semi final stage (been to most these last ten years) is that the Antrim teams have not got strong panels, Dunloy less so, i think Loughgiels panel would be the strongest. (que Max, Skull)

The last ten minutes are crucial. That's were we tend to lose or let the southern teams in.

Well I'll be there, i hope there are a few of the boarders down to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2011, 08:26:35 PM
Both semis are live on TG4, I don't think there is much strength on Loughgiels bench. Dim Dim and Chopper? Wouldn't fill you with too much confidence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2011, 08:40:56 PM
Wouldn't play them, too slow and too old, they have good young lads that would, in the last 15/10 minutes get some good scores. not sure of their names but have seen them play.

McGourty never give Dim Dim a touch when he marked him in the Championship. PJ needs to have faith in younger ones
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2011, 08:44:29 PM
When it comes to AI semis, you never know where the hero will come from. One ball may be all it takes

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2011, 08:54:30 PM
True.

Parnell suited us last year in the semi final (Intermed) stick pitch, tighter than the other county grounds and we were able to get good tackles and close them down a lot handier. Loughgiel would maybe prefer a better surface and a bigger pitch.

Watching the first half of last weeks game I'd say that the Gaels were poor but second half excellent.

I want a tight game and no sending off's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 06, 2011, 03:14:48 AM
yep for sure milltown, if we can keep everyone on pitch it should be tight, hopefully. long as big day doesn't screw with are mens heads, think if they all hurl the way they can, we could be in good shape
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 06, 2011, 06:27:22 PM
It appears that MIBAG has had to extend his dribble on to the County Web site following his recent 'ticking off' on here, by a moderator.  He feels, well so it seems, that he has to draw attention to himself by whatever means available to him.  I hope this forum is not going to turn into some sort platform/soap box for 'MIBAG' to vent his anger and inate self pity/frustrations as a result of him being overlooked/bypassed.  He should also stop to consider, that maybe he is just not up to the standard!

Maybe, the powers that be within the county will appoint him to the referees committee, in the hope that he may voice his frustrations there.  Alternatively, he should consider, that maybe it's time to go?

By the way 'MIBAG', there is also camogie or ladies football!

Those six pints I had in the club this afternoon, I think are going to my head!

This is a hurling thread, is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
Muinteoirmor why you down so hard on Ray?

Lets see how good your knowledge of the game is:

Keeper in a football match goes for the kick-out, he kicks it in front of himself then proceeds to dribble the ball to the 30 meter line and thumps it 50 yards into the FF line upon which the FF scores a goal. What should you do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2011, 06:22:44 PM
Tackle him after he touches the ball outside the 14 Yard line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 07, 2011, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
Muinteoirmor why you down so hard on Ray?

Lets see how good your knowledge of the game is:

Keeper in a football match goes for the kick-out, he kicks it in front of himself then proceeds to dribble the ball to the 30 meter line and thumps it 50 yards into the FF line upon which the FF scores a goal. What should you do?


Talk about it on the Antrim Football thread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2011, 06:22:44 PM
Tackle him after he touches the ball outside the 14 Yard line?

Why outside the 14 yard line specifically MR? Just wanted to see the extent of Muinteoirmor's knowledge, he must be checking the rule book! Colonel just having a bit of crac don't be so down on it! Bit of light humor hurts no-one and lets see how the teacher responds. Looking for that authoritarian stance. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
Muinteoirmor why you down so hard on Ray?

Lets see how good your knowledge of the game is:

Keeper in a football match goes for the kick-out, he kicks it in front of himself then proceeds to dribble the ball to the 30 meter line and thumps it 50 yards into the FF line upon which the FF scores a goal. What should you do?

Cheer and give him a big "Bualadh bos".  Why should I care anyway, this is football you are talking about mister!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 07:53:53 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 07, 2011, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
Muinteoirmor why you down so hard on Ray?

Lets see how good your knowledge of the game is:

Keeper in a football match goes for the kick-out, he kicks it in front of himself then proceeds to dribble the ball to the 30 meter line and thumps it 50 yards into the FF line upon which the FF scores a goal. What should you do?
Talk about it on the Antrim Football thread


I could not agree more Colonel, well said.  Jesus! if he scores goals, they should sign him up for Antrim footballers!

Ray who? Listen MIGAB, I am not a referee and have no desire to be one either, I am far too old for that .  I am not being hard on Ray, just relaying what the lads are saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
múinteoirmór ah come on no witty rapport? Where's the text book A Chara, just having a bit of crac, what do think football, hurling are we not all gaels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
múinteoirmór ah come on no witty rapport? Where's the text book A Chara, just having a bit of craic, what do think football, hurling are we not all gaels
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At what level/code do you referee? Are you a new referee (up and coming) or are you one of the more seasoned guys.

I am all for a bit of wit, craic and carry on.  However, I do take exception to those(like your goodself) who stoops to low levels of wit and innuendo!  Didn't that moderator have cause recently to clip you wings!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2011, 06:22:44 PM
Tackle him after he touches the ball outside the 14 Yard line?

I don't think you read the entire question MR2.

MR2, was the Walsh Cup game between Dublin and K'kenny played yesterday.  If so, do you know the result?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 07, 2011, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
múinteoirmór ah come on no witty rapport? Where's the text book A Chara, just having a bit of craic, what do think football, hurling are we not all gaels
[/quot
At what level/code do you referee? Are you a new referee (up and coming) or are you one of the more seasoned guys.

I am all for a bit of wit, craic and carry on.  However, I do take exception to those(like your goodself) who stoops to low levels of wit and innuendo!  Didn't that moderator have cause recently to clip you wings!
I am also and avid hurling fan, travelling the lenght and breadth of the country to watch hurling.  You also appear to associate me or infer that I have a soft spot for Loughgiel, not in the slightest ! Basically, I just wish that the Antrim representatives at senior level do well against O' Loughlin Gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 08, 2011, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 07, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
múinteoirmór ah come on no witty rapport? Where's the text book A Chara, just having a bit of crac, what do think football, hurling are we not all gaels

Also, to answer your question.  It would a legitimate score as the kepper could would have done nothing wrong at all.  He would be quite entitled to play the ball to himself and the hoof it up the field again . And that my friend is an answer without consulting any rule book!  But as I said, bear in mind it is football.  Do you want some help navigating your way to the Antrim Football forum.  HEY EVERYBODY, MIBAG is lost, he's on the wrong forum!!!!!!   ;) ;D

Breaking news!  That boyo who was on here a few days back stating that LW (Winker) was off the Loughgiel team, not playing and not likely to play on the 19th Feb, was rumour mongering!!!!!!  I heard from good authority last night that the lad is flying and rearing to go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2011, 11:41:15 PM
like i told you my rossa friend, didn't make wexford game, which we were beat by 6 points, conceded a goal late on but played rather well, 2nd game was called of, waston had drove down for it tho, playing amazing at training, all the hard work done now, just have to see what goes down on the 19th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
Think the Leinster final delay is going to work against LG this time. It has given the Gaels an extra game at the level of championship regardless how it looked on TV it would have been intense and competitive and this will have brought them on. Very little chance of them being caught on the hop now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 10:29:30 AM
Anyone know how the game between Loughgiel and Down went last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 09, 2011, 11:02:18 AM
Agree with NAG1, little chance of O'Loughlin Gaels not being up to full championship speed and i was actually impressed with them on TV, fiercely competitive and a few players i didn't know anything about look like proper hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Also have to question LG's choices of oppostion for the warm up games, what are they doing playing Down ten days out from their game, what is to be learned or gained from that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 09, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
I see from Hoganstand that O'LG's full back is likely to be out. How would that effect things?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 09, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
Antrim team for this Sunday on County Website. Shane McN on the sub bench is a strange one unless injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 09, 2011, 12:22:08 PM
1. Sean Hawes ???
2. Neil McAuley
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Aaron Graffin
5. Kevin McKeague
6. Michael Herron
7. Ciaran Herron
8. Karl McKeegan
9. Karl Stewart
10. Neil McManus
11. Michael Armstrong
12. Simon McCrory
13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. PJ O Connell

16. Liam Kearns
17. Shane McNaughton
18. James McCouaig
19. Matthew Donnelly
20. Barry McFall
21. Colm McFall
22. Thomas McCann
23. Christopher McGuinness
24. Conor McKinley

Sean Hawes makes his debut in goals, a member of the Clare based Creatlach club, he is a student at UUJ who has been included in the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Also have to question LG's choices of oppostion for the warm up games, what are they doing playing Down ten days out from their game, what is to be learned or gained from that?

But, did they win!  That is the question?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 09, 2011, 12:22:08 PM
1. Sean Hawes ???
2. Neil McAuley
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Aaron Graffin
5. Kevin McKeague
6. Michael Herron
7. Ciaran Herron
8. Karl McKeegan
9. Karl Stewart
10. Neil McManus
11. Michael Armstrong
12. Simon McCrory
13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. PJ O Connell

16. Liam Kearns
17. Shane McNaughton
18. James McCouaig
19. Matthew Donnelly
20. Barry McFall
21. Colm McFall
22. Thomas McCann
23. Christopher McGuinness
24. Conor McKinley

Sean Hawes makes his debut in goals, a member of the Clare based Creatlach club, he is a student at UUJ who has been included in the squad.

Is Keiran McGourty no longer on the squad?  Glad to see the McFalls on the bench.  I think Dinny sees that the 'Johns' 'Div 1' players are not up to the mark, although S McCrory certainly does warrant his place.  I am sure to get a reaction from Groundlie here me thinks!  Truth be told though, Dinny does not like the 'Johns' either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2011, 01:45:36 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 09, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
Your on the wind up again I see. I couldn't care less about the county team! 'Johns' through and through!

Are the Johnnies fielding a reserve team this year groundie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 01:53:52 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 09, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
Your on the wind up again I see. I couldn't care less about the county team! 'Johns' through and through!

No, just being honest and frank!  Sure the John's know we Rossa people dont get on with or like them for that matter.  Being honest and frank are values I cherish but it would appear that you don't.  Apologies for that.  So, you don't give a hoot about the county team, yet you wish to come on here, give your opinion(s) comments  and criticise! Strange indeed!  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 09, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
A bit harsh to say Dinny doesn't like the Johnnies, he has the best of a bad bunch already on the panel. Now Shane not on team is strange perhaps he's injured. Another strange one is keeper, have we not a keeper from one of our own clubs available? Although he's bound to be better than the last one. Ryan Mc Garry has applied for an extension to his visa which is a big loss to the Town's chances of winning Div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: JamesH on February 09, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
A bit harsh to say Dinny doesn't like the Johnnies, he has the best of a bad bunch already on the panel. Now Shane not on team is strange perhaps he's injured. Another strange one is keeper, have we not a keeper from one of our own clubs available? Although he's bound to be better than the last one. Ryan Mc Garry has applied for an extension to his visa which is a big loss to the Town's chances of winning Div 2
Just telling it, like it is!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 09, 2011, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: JamesH on February 09, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
A bit harsh to say Dinny doesn't like the Johnnies, he has the best of a bad bunch already on the panel. Now Shane not on team is strange perhaps he's injured. Another strange one is keeper, have we not a keeper from one of our own clubs available? Although he's bound to be better than the last one. Ryan Mc Garry has applied for an extension to his visa which is a big loss to the Town's chances of winning Div 2
Just telling it, like it is!

Your saying how you think it is. Not neccesarily how we think it is

Some strange choices there. Keeper situation is odd. I'm sure Ollie Baker has something to do with this. Shane must be injured or just rested rather than dropped in my opinion. Paddy McNaughton off the 24 althogether.  Conor Carson scored 3-1 for QUB during the week so keeping him in one position will be vital as suggested in the last few weeks.

Strong backline alright there. Is KMcGourty still in the squad? Not sure if M.Armstrong will suit playing at No11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 04:03:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2011, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 09, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
Is Keiran McGourty no longer on the squad?  Glad to see the McFalls on the bench.  I think Dinny sees that the 'Johns' 'Div 1' players are not up to the mark, although S McCrory certainly does warrant his place.  I am sure to get a reaction from Groundlie here me thinks!  Truth be told though, Dinny does not like the 'Johns' either.
True, nothing to do with the Johnnies though.
St. Enda's coached him
St. John's poached him.

As sure Hardstation, they (the John's) need all the help they can get.  They were always good at the aul poaching!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on February 10, 2011, 02:21:57 AM
loughgiel beat down 1-11 4-17, loughgiel experimented slightly a should have won by twicw as much. Coming together nicely and hopefully can take on to AISF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2011, 09:16:03 AM
Think that proves my concern about the standard of matches. But guess we will have to wait and see on that front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 10, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
Its a matter of who else can ya play before hand. Also there's travel problems. Only choice midweek really. Or are you thinking playing opposition at that level is more of a hinderance than a help?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on February 10, 2011, 02:21:57 AM
loughgiel beat down 1-11 4-17, loughgiel experimented slightly a should have won by twicw as much. Coming together nicely and hopefully can take on to AISF

I'd be surprised it was even remotely close to a full strength Down team as they've a tough game against Carlow on Sunday.

There's nothing to gain from playing poor opposition. They'd have been better playing a training game against themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 10, 2011, 09:53:38 AM
In The Dall's experience matches against Down and the Johnnies are vital not for the first 15 as such but for the next 15 who need game time and to keep them feeling part of the panel not just making up training numbers, perhaps first team players are recovering from injury/short of confidence so the matches have advantages. It will not make any difference to the AISF result. Heard last night Shane was just not picked or dropped which ever way you look at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 10, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on February 10, 2011, 02:21:57 AM
loughgiel beat down 1-11 4-17, loughgiel experimented slightly a should have won by twicw as much. Coming together nicely and hopefully can take on to AISF

I'd be surprised it was even remotely close to a full strength Down team as they've a tough game against Carlow on Sunday.

There's nothing to gain from playing poor opposition. They'd have been better playing a training game against themselves.

Diasgree - I reckon its always better to play against different opposition.
Do you really go in as hard as you can against team mates with a big game coming up?? (not sure anyone does except for the Kilkenny hurlers...).

Also - in an in-house game do you split the 'starting' (they should have a fair idea of their team by now) Loughgeil forwards and backs up and let them play against each other?
That way there would be better competition at one end of the field...but similarly they need to be playing together as a unit.
Jonny Campbell/Barney McAuley need to be picking out Winker etc etc....not marking him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 10, 2011, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on February 10, 2011, 02:21:57 AM
loughgiel beat down 1-11 4-17, loughgiel experimented slightly a should have won by twicw as much. Coming together nicely and hopefully can take on to AISF

I'd be surprised it was even remotely close to a full strength Down team as they've a tough game against Carlow on Sunday.

There's nothing to gain from playing poor opposition. They'd have been better playing a training game against themselves.

Diasgree - I reckon its always better to play against different opposition.
Do you really go in as hard as you can against team mates with a big game coming up?? (not sure anyone does except for the Kilkenny hurlers...).

Also - in an in-house game do you split the 'starting' (they should have a fair idea of their team by now) Loughgeil forwards and backs up and let them play against each other?
That way there would be better competition at one end of the field...but similarly they need to be playing together as a unit.
Jonny Campbell/Barney McAuley need to be picking out Winker etc etc....not marking him.

Loughgeil have a pretty strong seconds string so it might be competitive enough. It'd certainly be more competitive than a game against a weak Down team with an eye on a bigger game come sunday.

Easy games against poor opposition give a false sense of security and bad habits would creep in which would be found out against teams like O'Loughlin gaels.

Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 10, 2011, 10:47:11 AM
We're trying to fit in as many games as possible.  Weekends away to play against the likes of Dublin, DCU, Wexford, Carlow (rained off unfortunately)  coupled with local Mid-week games. 
Agreed that it would be best to play agaisnt better opposition each game but given the time of year and geography its not always possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 10, 2011, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on February 10, 2011, 02:21:57 AM
loughgiel beat down 1-11 4-17, loughgiel experimented slightly a should have won by twicw as much. Coming together nicely and hopefully can take on to AISF
And apparently, this high score was contributed by none other than Liam Watson!  I though you said he was not on the team, ousted off the panel by fellow players and would not be playing on the 19th February!  Well!  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 08:30:52 AM
Somehow I dont think he will be afforded as much room or as much good grace next week.

Also there wont be the same level of protection from the ref as he gets up here. Be interesting to see how he handles that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 11, 2011, 12:53:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 08:30:52 AM
Somehow I dont think he will be afforded as much room or as much good grace next week.

Also there wont be the same level of protection from the ref as he gets up here. Be interesting to see how he handles that.

You are having a laugh NAG  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
No pdiddy Im not have yet to see a player in Antrim gets the protection he gets coupled with the relaxed attitude to some of his own strokes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 11, 2011, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
No pdiddy Im not have yet to see a player in Antrim gets the protection he gets coupled with the relaxed attitude to some of his own strokes.

NAG1, I would be inteterested to know how much protection you have ever given him? You have to be joking mister!  You really cant be serious, are you?   A case of short memories me thinks! >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2011, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2011, 01:41:06 PM
No pdiddy Im not have yet to see a player in Antrim gets the protection he gets coupled with the relaxed attitude to some of his own strokes.

Finbar Saunders would be chortling away at that one NAG  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 13, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
Antrim 1-15 to Kerry 0-12 Full time. Kerry led 0-8 to 1-4 at half time.

Dinny's league campaign off to a winning start!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 11:17:39 AM
Good result to start the year off with!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 14, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
So according to the County site Sean Hawes didn't actually didn't play and B McFall (Barry I assume) done goals instead?

Getting stranger by the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 14, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
So according to the County site Sean Hawes didn't actually didn't play and B McFall (Barry I assume) done goals instead?

Getting stranger by the day

His transfer wasn't through yet, amateur night again in Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 14, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
When did they realise this? Surely they could have got someone else in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 08:23:13 PM
I was asked(played nets for county when i was a nipper) but wife wouldn't let me go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 14, 2011, 08:38:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 08:23:13 PM
I was asked(played nets for county when i was a nipper) but wife wouldn't let me go!

Jesus they were very stuck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
In all seriousness, i think the county name a panel or players that are on the squad and it must be a requirement to only play players on the panel. Having only one keeper is difficult and has shown them to be foolish.

But on the flip side a good enough win. should always be beating teams like that, but last season showed we couldn't always win those games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 15, 2011, 08:53:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
In all seriousness, i think the county name a panel or players that are on the squad and it must be a requirement to only play players on the panel. Having only one keeper is difficult and has shown them to be foolish.

But on the flip side a good enough win. should always be beating teams like that, but last season showed we couldn't always win those games.

Going into a must win game without an established keeper is one big risk to be taking, luckily Antrim got away with it, but if Kerry knew there was a novice in nets I'm sure they'd be shooting from all angles at him.
I'm sure they could have called up another keeper from within the county at the last minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
I think if your a good hurler, good hands and have a good eye for the ball then nets shouldn't really be a big problem.

Any news of when the Championship draws are being made? We are waiting on getting Loughgiel again, tenth year in a row i'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2011, 09:30:39 AM
Havent heard any word on when they are MR2

Bit of farce goal keeping wise at the weekend lucky to escape if that was the case.

It is an integral position on the field and often under estimated.

Ulster league starting this weekend everyone taking part?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
Aye starting this week and we are due to Lisballew, but they want to not play the game cause of Fermanagh playing the next day!!!

First game and they are looking it off, we've county players also on both teams so are in the same boat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2011, 09:58:45 AM
why do they enter it if they are going to do that, it is supposed to be used as pre season warm up games and they are cancelling them.

Also why are the semi's and final planned for August when the championship will be on and no one will be interested in a pre season friendly tournament? Why not just rattle it off up to Easter and be done with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 15, 2011, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
I think if your a good hurler, good hands and have a good eye for the ball then nets shouldn't really be a big problem.

Any news of when the Championship draws are being made? We are waiting on getting Loughgiel again, tenth year in a row i'd say.

Apparently entried were to be received last night with the draws to be made on the 28th. I think that was stated on the county guestbook a few weeks ago

Don't know who they are going to get for goals. Maybe a keeper they would have lined up for the u21's. Is the game this Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 15, 2011, 06:08:40 PM
I recently read the Limerick hurling book "Unlimited Heartbreak" and there is an interesting little paragraph in it (given the week that's in it) concerning Loughgiel's last All Ireland semi final appearance in 1990. Tom Ryan, the former Limerick manager, gave his thoughts on Ballybrowns trip up to Loughgiel:

"We played Loughgiel in the semi-final and they had half of Antrim picked when we went up to play them. That was unbelievable altogether because it was played in the Glens of Antrim and every trick in the book was pulled to try and sidetrack us – drink and pubs, you name it. They were giving us free drink the night before and everything! We won in the North by a point and there was a battle royale after the match, the referee even got clocked."

Interesting view from Tom Ryan on Loughgiels team that day!!!! I was at that match and from recollection it wasn't a classic but it was tight. I think the score was something like 0.8 to 0.7 but I don't remember a row at the end with the ref involved, but probably I didn't hang around at the end to commiserate with the Loughgiel team and fans so never saw it!! I do remember Ballybrown being a big physical side and one player in particular always stuck in my head. He was either their centre forward or full forward who was a giant with a beard.

Maybe Loughgiel should adopt a similar approach this weekend and head down and stay in Kilkenny on Friday night and get the OLG players out for a few Smithwicks (you know them Kilkenny ones can't resist a Smithwicks)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 15, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2011, 08:23:13 PM
I was asked(played nets for county when i was a nipper) but wife wouldn't let me go!

I think you wife made a very wise decision MR2, god bless her, a true Antrim Gael at heart!
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 16, 2011, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 15, 2011, 06:08:40 PM

"We played Loughgiel in the semi-final and they had half of Antrim picked when we went up to play them. That was unbelievable altogether because it was played in the Glens of Antrim and every trick in the book was pulled to try and sidetrack us – drink and pubs, you name it. They were giving us free drink the night before and everything! We won in the North by a point and there was a battle royale after the match, the referee even got clocked."


Was at that game myself Fairhead - seem to remember that weather conditions were pretty abysmal during it. Loughgiel built up a bit of a lead with the strong wind in the first half and Ballybrown came back in the second half to win by a point. There was a fair old pitch invasion after the full time whistle and I think there were a few suspensions handed out for incidents after the game. I have a (nick) name in my head with regard to one of the suspendees, but I'll not repeat for fear of defaming him!

As regards Saturday's gane, Andy Comerford had this to say in this morning's Indo:

"We're in a different position going into this match and we definitely won't be taking Loughgiel Shamrocks for granted. I played against (Antrim teams) as a player and we know what they bring to the table and that's ultimate commitment. They have done some great underage work and they do great hurling work in general in various parts of Antrim. They'll go for us for the 60 minutes.

"We'll have to keep a close eye on Liam Watson -- he's a serious forward as he proved last year on Eoin Cadogan at Croke Park. He's well able to take points and he could bury you.

"I have footage on them, a couple of DVDs and I saw them first hand when I was with Kildare and they won't lack anything for commitment.

"Some of our younger players wouldn't have experience of playing against northern teams and they are a different breed of hurler. They will fight to the bitter end and the younger players on our team will have to be steeled up for that."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 16, 2011, 09:41:34 AM
Wonder where OLG's got the DVD's from, hope it wasnt some of the other Antrim clubs in a revenge mission for past misdemeanors  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 16, 2011, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 15, 2011, 06:08:40 PM
I recently read the Limerick hurling book "Unlimited Heartbreak" and there is an interesting little paragraph in it (given the week that's in it) concerning Loughgiel's last All Ireland semi final appearance in 1990. Tom Ryan, the former Limerick manager, gave his thoughts on Ballybrowns trip up to Loughgiel:

"We played Loughgiel in the semi-final and they had half of Antrim picked when we went up to play them. That was unbelievable altogether because it was played in the Glens of Antrim and every trick in the book was pulled to try and sidetrack us – drink and pubs, you name it. They were giving us free drink the night before and everything! We won in the North by a point and there was a battle royale after the match, the referee even got clocked."

Interesting view from Tom Ryan on Loughgiels team that day!!!! I was at that match and from recollection it wasn't a classic but it was tight. I think the score was something like 0.8 to 0.7 but I don't remember a row at the end with the ref involved, but probably I didn't hang around at the end to commiserate with the Loughgiel team and fans so never saw it!! I do remember Ballybrown being a big physical side and one player in particular always stuck in my head. He was either their centre forward or full forward who was a giant with a beard.

Maybe Loughgiel should adopt a similar approach this weekend and head down and stay in Kilkenny on Friday night and get the OLG players out for a few Smithwicks (you know them Kilkenny ones can't resist a Smithwicks)?

"half of Antrim picked" - He's obviously referring to cloot, 1 player.  Therefore I wouldn't pay much heed to the rest of his statement.

With regard to the row after the game, yes unfortunately there was a melee but this was only between a few Loughgiel subs and Loughgiel management.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 16, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
Sorry PDiddy...do you mean Loughgiel players & management were fighting each other?? I dont remember so that's why I ask.

I see PJ has stated in the Irish Star yesterday that Barney is 50/50 for the match due to a calf injury. I'd be extremely shocked if he isn't playing... He'll be playing!!!

The likes of the DVD's the Gaels have would be easy enough got. Most of the clubs involved will have obtained DVDs of their opposition... You'd be crazy not to...as long as you dont worry too much about what you've seen & concentrate on your own performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 16, 2011, 10:51:51 AM
Yeah the Loughgiel Mgmt and subs fought with each other that day.  It was more of a family feud than anything else.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 16, 2011, 11:06:42 AM
Quality HS  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 11:28:33 AM
HS  :D

Where will Watson play? Corner forward?

I take it Sean Hawes will be available this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 16, 2011, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 16, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 16, 2011, 10:51:51 AM
Yeah the Loughgiel Mgmt and subs fought with each other that day.  It was more of a family feud than anything else.
Everyone in Loughgiel involved?

(http://i4.bebo.com/015a/2/mediuml/2006/07/28/16/1498570939a1499550650b266635085ml.jpg) Oi!! Leave it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 16, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Yeah I would say LG will target the perceived weakest of the defenders and stick him there, however I would say OLG's will have a plan for him anyway. So it will be up to the rest of them to chip in with the scores.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 16, 2011, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 16, 2011, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 15, 2011, 06:08:40 PM

"We played Loughgiel in the semi-final and they had half of Antrim picked when we went up to play them. That was unbelievable altogether because it was played in the Glens of Antrim and every trick in the book was pulled to try and sidetrack us – drink and pubs, you name it. They were giving us free drink the night before and everything! We won in the North by a point and there was a battle royale after the match, the referee even got clocked."


Christ if you were an OLG fan, after reading all of the interview with Andy Comerford in the Independent, you would nearly wonder is it worth your while going to Parnell Park on Saturday. Hes obviously being reading from Brian Cody's Big Book of Pre-Match Interviews and the chaper entitled "Pre-match Mindgames and Nonsense with the Press".

Was at that game myself Fairhead - seem to remember that weather conditions were pretty abysmal during it. Loughgiel built up a bit of a lead with the strong wind in the first half and Ballybrown came back in the second half to win by a point. There was a fair old pitch invasion after the full time whistle and I think there were a few suspensions handed out for incidents after the game. I have a (nick) name in my head with regard to one of the suspendees, but I'll not repeat for fear of defaming him!

As regards Saturday's gane, Andy Comerford had this to say in this morning's Indo:

"We're in a different position going into this match and we definitely won't be taking Loughgiel Shamrocks for granted. I played against (Antrim teams) as a player and we know what they bring to the table and that's ultimate commitment. They have done some great underage work and they do great hurling work in general in various parts of Antrim. They'll go for us for the 60 minutes.

"We'll have to keep a close eye on Liam Watson -- he's a serious forward as he proved last year on Eoin Cadogan at Croke Park. He's well able to take points and he could bury you.

"I have footage on them, a couple of DVDs and I saw them first hand when I was with Kildare and they won't lack anything for commitment.

"Some of our younger players wouldn't have experience of playing against northern teams and they are a different breed of hurler. They will fight to the bitter end and the younger players on our team will have to be steeled up for that."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 16, 2011, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 16, 2011, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 15, 2011, 06:08:40 PM

"We played Loughgiel in the semi-final and they had half of Antrim picked when we went up to play them. That was unbelievable altogether because it was played in the Glens of Antrim and every trick in the book was pulled to try and sidetrack us – drink and pubs, you name it. They were giving us free drink the night before and everything! We won in the North by a point and there was a battle royale after the match, the referee even got clocked."


Was at that game myself Fairhead - seem to remember that weather conditions were pretty abysmal during it. Loughgiel built up a bit of a lead with the strong wind in the first half and Ballybrown came back in the second half to win by a point. There was a fair old pitch invasion after the full time whistle and I think there were a few suspensions handed out for incidents after the game. I have a (nick) name in my head with regard to one of the suspendees, but I'll not repeat for fear of defaming him!

As regards Saturday's gane, Andy Comerford had this to say in this morning's Indo:

"We're in a different position going into this match and we definitely won't be taking Loughgiel Shamrocks for granted. I played against (Antrim teams) as a player and we know what they bring to the table and that's ultimate commitment. They have done some great underage work and they do great hurling work in general in various parts of Antrim. They'll go for us for the 60 minutes.

"We'll have to keep a close eye on Liam Watson -- he's a serious forward as he proved last year on Eoin Cadogan at Croke Park. He's well able to take points and he could bury you.

"I have footage on them, a couple of DVDs and I saw them first hand when I was with Kildare and they won't lack anything for commitment.

"Some of our younger players wouldn't have experience of playing against northern teams and they are a different breed of hurler. They will fight to the bitter end and the younger players on our team will have to be steeled up for that."

Oops, this looks a bit better.

Christ if you were an OLG fan, after reading all of the interview with Andy Comerford in the Independent, you would nearly wonder is it worth your while going to Parnell Park on Saturday. Hes obviously being reading from Brian Cody's Big Book of Pre-Match Interviews and the chaper entitled "Pre-match Mindgames and Nonsense with the Press".

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 16, 2011, 04:57:15 PM
http://www.livesportontv.com/gaa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Looks like some are already begrudging Loughgiel, even before their big day on Saturday.  Good luck to them I say!
To suggest LW will play in corner forward, I think underestimates the lads ability, he is most likely to be all over the place trying to win ball and doing what he does best.  I just hope his temperament and discipline prevail.  On that basis I think Louighgiel will get the right result.  I hope young Barney makes it also!  The very best of luck to the Shamrocks.  :)  Get tore into the Gaels lads, your club have a very proud tradition at this level, the only hurling club in Ulster to ever do it!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 10:04:11 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Looks like some are already begrudging Loughgeil, even before their big day on Saturday.  Good luck to them I say!
To suggest LW will play in corner forward, I think underestimates the lads ability, he is most likely to be all over the place trying to win ball and doing what he does best.  I just hope his termperment and discipline prevail.  On that basis I think Louighgeil will get the right result.  I hope young Barney makes it also!  The very best of luck to the Shamrocks.  :)  Get tore into the Gaels lads, your club have a very proud tradition at this level, the only hurling club in Ulster to ever do it!

Thats pure pish. He has lined out at corner forward in all loughgiels championship games in 2010 so how are we underestimating his ability?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 10:04:11 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Looks like some are already begrudging Loughgeil, even before their big day on Saturday.  Good luck to them I say!
To suggest LW will play in corner forward, I think underestimates the lads ability, he is most likely to be all over the place trying to win ball and doing what he does best.  I just hope his temperament and discipline prevail.  On that basis I think Louighgeil will get the right result.  I hope young Barney makes it also!  The very best of luck to the Shamrocks.  :)  Get tore into the Gaels lads, your club have a very proud tradition at this level, the only hurling club in Ulster to ever do it!

Thats pure pish. He has lined out at corner forward in all loughgiels championship games in 2010 so how are we underestimating his ability?
A bit harsh don't you think Colonel?  What I was eluding to, is the fact that he can also move out of corner forward, win ball and score not just from a corner forward position!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
Why would one position on the pitch determine his ability?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2011, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Looks like some are already begrudging Loughgiel, even before their big day on Saturday.  Good luck to them I say!
To suggest LW will play in corner forward, I think underestimates the lads ability, he is most likely to be all over the place trying to win ball and doing what he does best.  I just hope his temperament and discipline prevail.  On that basis I think Louighgiel will get the right result.  I hope young Barney makes it also!  The very best of luck to the Shamrocks.  :)  Get tore into the Gaels lads, your club have a very proud tradition at this level, the only hurling club in Ulster to ever do it!

I hope this was tongue in cheek, LG management and fans will be hoping for the exact opposite to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2011, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
Why would one position on the pitch determine his ability?

Exactly right, some of the best hurlers in Ireland play corner forward, Mullane, Corbett etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2011, 10:24:02 AM
Someones supposed knowledge of the local game is a bit poor. Loughgiel are plus 6 in the handicap i fancy this to be a tighter game. Can anyone persuade me otherwise?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2011, 10:29:42 AM
I think they were maybe basing that on championship scores by LG this year which were low, so combining that with a step up in level I would say the bookies are just enticing some people in with that spread.

OLG arent a massive scoring powerhouse but could see it slipping beyond the six, alot will depend on the weather though if it keeps up the way it has been this week, could make for a real dog fight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 17, 2011, 10:43:54 AM
Loughgiel to win the match are 5/1.  To win by 1-3 points we're 17/2.  If we are to win it won't be by anymore than 3 points so 17/2 seems like a good bet. Worth a score of anybody's money  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
Also think it'll be a tight game. OLG's wont have the swagger of Ballyhale or Portumna and LG haven't took many pastings in the past few years. Can't see any team romping it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Pdiddy looked at that last night and if i were a club man i'd take that for sure. As Skull said i also believe they wont take a pasting. looking forward to match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on February 17, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
Anybody know if the fixtures are made yet for the Leagues? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 17, 2011, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Pdiddy looked at that last night and if i were a club man i'd take that for sure. As Skull said i also believe they wont take a pasting. looking forward to match

I think Skull should have a flutter on it aswell.  Either way he's a winner  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
Aye but if he won the money on a LG win it would be ilgotten money and be no use to him, he would end up having to give it away!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 17, 2011, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 17, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
Anybody know if the fixtures are made yet for the Leagues?


Championship draws being made on monday week, so I reckon they should be available after that hopefully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 17, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2011, 10:24:02 AM
Someones supposed knowledge of the local game is a bit poor. Loughgiel are plus 6 in the handicap i fancy this to be a tighter game. Can anyone persuade me otherwise?

MR2, are you suggesting that my knowledge of the local game is limited?
Quote from: the colonel on February 16, 2011, 11:07:49 PM

Why would one position on the pitch determine his ability?
I am not suggestiong for one minute that he can only play at corner forward.  In fact, the complete opposite.  I think the lad has an all round capabilty to play in various positions from mid-field onwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 17, 2011, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 17, 2011, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 16, 2011, 08:04:57 PM
Looks like some are already begrudging Loughgiel, even before their big day on Saturday.  Good luck to them I say!
To suggest LW will play in corner forward, I think underestimates the lads ability, he is most likely to be all over the place trying to win ball and doing what he does best.  I just hope his temperament and discipline prevail.  On that basis I think Louighgiel will get the right result.  I hope young Barney makes it also!  The very best of luck to the Shamrocks.  :)  Get tore into the Gaels lads, your club have a very proud tradition at this level, the only hurling club in Ulster to ever do it!

I hope this was tongue in cheek, LG management and fans will be hoping for the exact opposite to happen.
Are you trying to tell me that his discipline and temperament are not concerns for the LG management ref?  By the way, I don't do tongue in cheek, just facts and no ambiguity!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2011, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 17, 2011, 03:31:08 PM
I think Skull should have a flutter on it aswell.  Either way he's a winner  ;)

Theres more to life than winning diddy. Surely you'd know that  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 17, 2011, 08:47:15 PM
By Donnchadh Boyle


Wednesday February 16 2011

HAVING been installed as underdogs for a number of key games in this campaign, former Kilkenny star Andy Comerford doesn't believe the favourites' tag will suit his O'Loughlin Gaels side as they face Antrim's Loughgiel Shamrocks in the All-Ireland club SHC semi-final at Parnell Park on Saturday.

O'Loughlins were outsiders in their county semi-final and final, where they beat five-in-a-row-chasing Ballyhale Shamrocks and Carrickshock respectively, while they also toppled a fancied Oulart-The Ballagh side in the Leinster final. But on Saturday, they are clear favourites (1/7) to oust the Ulster men and set up a final date with either De La Salle or Clarinbridge on St Patrick's Day.

"We are red hot favourites but we're definitely a team that needs to be backed into a corner and then we come out fighting," Comerford said. "The more pressure is put on us and the more teams get on top of us the more we fight back. The favourites' tag is something we have to live with and we'll see how we progress with that.

Challenge

"But it doesn't really suit this team to be favourites, they rather come in as underdogs and then rise to the challenge of people writing them off. That's what they did against Ballyhale and that's what they did against Oulart."

Comerford manages the Kilkenny city side along with Michael Nolan, but the former Kildare manager played on the last O'Loughlins side to reach this stage in 2004, when Newtownshandrum beat them after a replay on the way to an All-Ireland title.

"It didn't happen for us on the day. I was more disappointed for the club, when you look back and see that it (an All-Ireland title) is something which has eluded the club.

"We have won championship and won Leinsters so this club has ambitions of winning All-Irelands. The bulk of the players are there from the last time and they want to put it right."

Brian Hogan and Comerford's brother Martin are the star turns in the side, but full-back Andy Kearns is a major doubt. Loughgiel boast the likes of Liam Watson and, as the only Ulster side to win the All-Ireland title, they have history on their side. And after Waterford's De La Salle were brought to extra-time at Parnell Park by another Antrim outfit (Cushendall) in 2009, Comerford insists the bookmakers' odds will go out the window when the ball is thrown in.

"We're in a different position going into this match and we definitely won't be taking Loughgiel Shamrocks for granted. I played against (Antrim teams) as a player and we know what they bring to the table and that's ultimate commitment. They have done some great underage work and they do great hurling work in general in various parts of Antrim. They'll go for us for the 60 minutes.

"We'll have to keep a close eye on Liam Watson -- he's a serious forward as he proved last year on Eoin Cadogan at Croke Park. He's well able to take points and he could bury you.

"I have footage on them, a couple of DVDs and I saw them first hand when I was with Kildare and they won't lack anything for commitment.

"Some of our younger players wouldn't have experience of playing against northern teams and they are a different breed of hurler. They will fight to the bitter end and the younger players on our team will have to be steeled up for that."

- Donnchadh Boyle

Irish Independent

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 17, 2011, 11:43:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 17, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
Also think it'll be a tight game. OLG's wont have the swagger of Ballyhale or Portumna and LG haven't took many pastings in the past few years. Can't see any team romping it

OLG might not have the swagger of a Ballyhale or Portumna but they have beat Ballyhale, Carrickshock, Ballyboden and Oulart the Ballagh in their last 4 games. Who needs swagger if you can still beat the quality of those teams? For fear of maybe offending multiple people on here i wont try and compare the quality of Loughgiels last 4 opponents to that 4 above. However conditions at this time of the year can result in tight matches and no doubt Loughgiel will be determined and come out all guns blazing so it might be tight for the first 30/40 mins. But over the course of the hour i think OLG with Hogan, Maurice Nolan at midfield and Bergin not missing many frees, will lead them to a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 18, 2011, 09:57:59 PM
Less than 12 hours to take off! I can not feckin wait to hit the road again!

I think it'll be a lot closer than odds suggests. Still would say that OLG are strong favourites simply because of the route they had to take to get here. Still, if the ball rolls right for us, who knows what might happen!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2011, 12:17:07 AM
Heading down, hopeful they will do as the last few Antrim teams  have down lately (well not Rossa against James Stephens!!) is give it  a good rattle and get a result. I'm liking the, score more than 13.5 points bet that Paddy Power are giving. but as has been said already Loughgiel haven't scored a wile lot this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 19, 2011, 09:40:48 AM
Well what is the last minute team news, always players carrying injuries into these games after the heavy training. It can have a big bearing on the game.

With OLG losing their regular full back will the shamrocks stick LW in there and target them?

Just on the leinster final I think these teams have many similarities, very dependant on excellent CHB, and one superb forward. Both teams capable of grinding out a low scoring affair. Just fancy OLG main men are that little better than LG, I'd go with the spread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 02:24:25 PM
L'giel look the physically stronger so far anyway, best efforts coming from the defence as usual. Forwards could do withbaring their teeth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2011, 02:28:42 PM
Hard to see them getting enough scores. Too many mistakes in their touch and hard to see where the scores will come from. Doing well though - initially they looked in trouble and weathered the storm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2011, 02:54:17 PM
That last Loughgiel point was well wide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
Ball game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
+6 well gone.

To be fair to Loughgiel they have battled well but just aren't good enough. They definitely showed a lot of character.

All over now though.

You get punished for mistakes at this level and their handling errors have cost them dear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 19, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
Neither team particularly impressed, OLG had plenty of handling errors themselves but where just always that wee bit better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Yip, winker unfortunately rarely there when they need him. A player like him who has the ability to change a game needs to make a bigger effort to get on the ball. All but the last of the Gaels goals were soft enough. Big work needin done in the Shamrocks forward unit or they risk slipping backwards this season. From that performance the Gaels will not get their hands on the Big Yin this year, unless DLS make a total arse of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2011, 03:38:59 PM
I just couldn't see how anyone thought they were going to get enough scores. OLG were strong in the air in the forwards, Comerford in particular. Milltown has talked about Loughgiels strong bench, well no disrespect to the two fellas, but when you have to call on Aidan McCloskey and Alex Watt, both of them with their best days well behind them, well you haven't a strong bench at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on February 19, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Yip, winker unfortunately rarely there when they need him.

And now the real reasons why the players had a meeting with the managers looking him put off the panel will come out.  Training/not training...the usual
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Has Joey Scullion ever stepped up in a big game? Eddie is a good hurler, he hit a few horrible wides today though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 12:36:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Has Joey Scullion ever stepped up in a big game? Eddie is a good hurler, he hit a few horrible wides today though.
Joey Scullion hasn't the balls he was born with. Went to every ball stick first. Eddie McCloskey got the ball, threw it up and snapped at it, every time. Dunged the togs.
I don't think you rated Loughgiel today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 01:03:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 12:50:43 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 12:36:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Has Joey Scullion ever stepped up in a big game? Eddie is a good hurler, he hit a few horrible wides today though.
Joey Scullion hasn't the balls he was born with. Went to every ball stick first. Eddie McCloskey got the ball, threw it up and snapped at it, every time. Dunged the togs.
I don't think you rated Loughgiel today.
They were crap. They seemed very different to past Loughgiel senior hurling teams. They lacked balls and fight. In fairness though, there was no minor match for them to jump the fence and get tore into wee lads.
:D The whole country has always known that although they liked to dish it out, deep down they were never really that hard. I remember a fella up at home saying to one of the players that if they fought as hard on the field as they did off it they might have won the county by now!

Winker is a selfish **** with no interest in putting himself out for the club. I fail to see why they bother with him. There is no point in everyone saying what a great talent he is when he nevers uses it to anyones advantage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 01:24:46 PM
Ahhh, the sweet smell of jealously is still wafting over the lesser, less successful clubs' supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 19, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Yip, winker unfortunately rarely there when they need him.

And now the real reasons why the players had a meeting with the managers looking him put off the panel will come out.  Training/not training...the usual
Nonsense!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:02:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 01:24:46 PM
Ahhh, the sweet smell of jealously is still wafting over the lesser, less successful clubs' supporters.

Dont be so paranoid Seamroga, went to the match yesterday to watch the Antrim Champions (as i do every year) and left wondering as Antrim hurling went backwards???

That was a beatable Kilkenny team, the amount of spilled balls by Loughgiel and to a smaller extent Gaels was unreal!! Would look differently had they been under pressure to win the ball these were frees catches, DD's puck outs seemed to be miss hit every time!! thought he gave Gaels at least 3 points and he just about got to the half way mark. The fullback had a mire, the corner lads were great though and i thought Johnny Campbell was man of the match for me.

Upfront OLG thought they were going to get it tight and moved Hogan into fullback to mark Winker i suppose but he went missing after scoring a beautiful point on the wing. going for goal when he should have went for a point, missing 21 yard frees, gave up hitting frees and didn't look interested to be fair. We can all have bad games but yesterday should not have been one of them. After the threat was sorted they brought Hogan out to CHB.  Hogan is a brave size of a lad

They brought of James Campbell who was not at the races and the full foraward looked as if he had a injury before the game was played!! with twenty to go PJ shouted to one of the subs to get ready. Christ my Da would have got ready quicker and looked more interested than him!! WTF bloody All Ireland final lad!!

What was said at Half-time? they might as well have stayed in!!

Bringing Barney out to midfield was good but left them exposed in the back. Experience was maybe the telling factor, if Loughgiel get back next year they may do a bit better, but i came away worried about the state of our senior sides. Playing these teams and doing well is good for showing the strong counties that we have good teams and we are very competitive. that didn't happen yesterday.

Championship draws next week, we are bound to get Loughgiel again the year ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
I think it's all a matter of perspective. Tell me the secret of how to stop a team having a bad day at will? The fact is that the Shamrocks under performed. No argument. But they are Antrim and Ulster champions. To be fair Dunloy weren't at the races in the championship this year and wouldn't have counted yesterday. Cushendall, perhaps, have the potential to have performed better, but history suggests otherwise. The fact is that there are only really 3 clubs in with a shout of the championship this year coming. Well two. I think that Loughgiel will have learned a lot from yesterday. That can only make them stronger considering that the squad is still young. I honestly can't see any other team knocking them off  their pedestal.

As for paranoia, nah. I was just  commenting on the oh so boring anti-shamrock feeling that lingers, unfortunately, in this county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2011, 02:27:22 PM
Antrim 2-13 Clare 2-14

Dunno how we didnt  get something from that, stopped playing when Clare went down to 14 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2011, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?

Conor Carson was very good in FF after a shaky start, he won a lot of ball and used it well. Clare had a man (harshly) sent off after 15mins of the second half and we were really on top of them, after being 11 behind in the first half (strong breeze). Couldn't see anything other than an Antrim win in the last 15 minutes but they finished the game off poorly. Karl Stewart, who was good, had a chance to equalise from a free with the last puc of the game but put it badly wide.

Definitely one that got away as Clare are very poor.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on February 20, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 19, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Yip, winker unfortunately rarely there when they need him.

And now the real reasons why the players had a meeting with the managers looking him put off the panel will come out.  Training/not training...the usual
Nonsense!

He didn't have the look of a boy who had been training well did he?  Also thought young Ciaran McKinley should have started.  He's the sort of boy who mucks in and with the pitch the state it was yesterday it would have suited him.  Fair enough he dropped a catch near the end and cost a goal but the game was gone by then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
Lads, Lads, Lads!!! Shame of you who appear to relish on Loughgiels defeat yesterday.  IMO opinion, having been a spectator at the game, not like osome of you armchair observers, the Shamrocks just did not perfom on the day.

Certainly, they were nervous, did not appear to settle, gave away a few soft scores.  But surely to god that does not merit the wrath of individual such as Hardstaion et al!!!!

Did Dunloy, Cushendall not falter also when reaching AI Semi/finals!

This Loughgiel side, are young, inexpereinced and IMO were capable of performing a lot better than what the did yesterday.

It's a real pity some of you are gloating and rubbing salt in the wounds.   
Totally gutted for the Shamrocks yesterday, they certainly underperformed and di not do themselves any justice.

Is it any wonder our teams in this county are so fragmented?

No matter who was playing yesterday, I would have also travelled to Parnell Park, paid my 10 Euro and gave the county representatives a cheer (well with the exception of the 'Johns' of course).  I find it real difficult to comprehend why individual such as Hardstation, seem to relish in the defeat of Loughgiel yesterday.  OLG, were a team that could have been turned over (they were no great shakes for a Kilkenny team) but Loughgiel just did not click or take advantage.  One thing is for sure though, I have no doubt they will be back in action over the next few seasons.

MR2, like you I stayed in Dublin, went to Croker to watch the Tipp v Dublin game.  Dublin certainly turned Tipp ovger with some fine points taken by theior No 12 and 14. I left after the descration of crke Park before the football game with the intoductions of teh JEDWARD Fiasco.  Can't understand what they are thinking of in Croker.  JEDWARD were poor S****!!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time

Totally agree THFFS. the game was there for the winning, maybe if they stuck BMcF in goals (jeasus no) we may have got a different result.

Carson could not catch flu if you ask me, and missed numerous point opportunities.  Hippy did not have one of his better days.  CMcFall, I though played well, and thats rich for  me saying somethiong positive about a 'Johns' man, but fair play to the lad.

This was one that got away too easily.  We should of had this one bagged!!!  But you see, our county team can also underperform, on any given day.  Just like Dunloy, Cushendall and more recently, the Shamrocks!!

One other thing!  Their supporters most certainly get behind their team.  I am sure Loughgiel was deserted yesterday.  But what impressed me most, was they stayed behind after watching their team defeated, stood and applauded the players, cheered them and without one word of recrimination or negativity. Certainly a lessen for us all!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 20, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
They will never, ever, be forgiven.

What for HS ? ???

Disappointing result but no complaints as the best team obviously won.  I was pleased with the effort and commitment from our lads but at the end of the day we just weren't good enough.  We can and will play better than that so hopefully we'll learn from it and move on.  We cant expect to win the county title for the first time in 21 years and then go on and win an all-ireland.  Retaining the County title will be a big ask as both Cushendall and Dunloy will be keen to knock us off our perch but I believe we have the players to do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 04:34:01 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 20, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
They will never, ever, be forgiven.

What for HS ? ???

Disappointing result but no complaints as the best team obviously won.  I was pleased with the effort and commitment from our lads but at the end of the day we just weren't good enough.  We can and will play better than that so hopefully we'll learn from it and move on.  We cant expect to win the county title for the first time in 21 years and then go on and win an all-ireland.  Retaining the County title will be a big ask as both Cushendall and Dunloy will be keen to knock us off our perch but I believe we have the players to do it.

Maith thú PDiddy!.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 19, 2011, 03:10:03 PM
Deep into 'Get the match abandoned' time.

Armchair observation HS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:39:30 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 20, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 19, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 19, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Yip, winker unfortunately rarely there when they need him.

And now the real reasons why the players had a meeting with the managers looking him put off the panel will come out.  Training/not training...the usual
Nonsense!

He didn't have the look of a boy who had been training well did he?  Also thought young Ciaran McKinley should have started.  He's the sort of boy who mucks in and with the pitch the state it was yesterday it would have suited him.  Fair enough he dropped a catch near the end and cost a goal but the game was gone by then.
I said exactly the same thing myself about McKinley before the start of the match. He's been one of our top players all season. I still don't know why he didn't start.

As to winker. Yeah, he had a bad game. I'll ask you, how does one stop having a bad game at will? One can't. To speculate as you are doing is pretty futile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
Exile is playing with Seamroga's head. Loughgiel hate Dunloy, Dunloy hate Loughgiel, Ballycastle and Glenariffe hate Cushendall, you could go on all night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
I don't think hate is the correct word to use to describe how the Shamrock support feels towards Dunloy, or Cushendall for that matter. I think bemused is a much more accurate word to use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:34:07 PM
Speaking from personal experience, I certainly have experienced much more animosity from the 'Dall than I ever have from across the shough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!
Aha! them (green eyed 'Johns') MR2, sure who could like them! If the truth be told, sure nobody likes the 'Johns'!  Except when their sh*tt**g in them!

I heard an intersesting story today at Casement about the County Secretary's son.  Alledgedly he made a comment to someone who attended yesterdays game in Parnell -  "I dont know why you wasted your money going down their to watch that shower of shit Loughgiel" Irionic or what!!!!!!!.  I heard this from a third party of course, I am not sure there may be any substance to it though.  However, I could just imagine if such a comment was posted on the county website by anyone, what would the county administrator have to say about that? Impetuious!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!
Aha! them (green eyed 'Johns') MR2, should who could like them! If the truth be told, sure nobody likes the 'Johns'!  Except when their sh*tt**g in them!

I heard an intersesting story today at Casement about the County Secretary's son.  Alledgedly he made a comment to someone who attedned yesterdays game in Parnell -  "I dont know why you wasted your money going down their to watch that shower of shit Loughgiel" Irionic or what!!!!!!!.  I heard this from a third party of course, I am not sure they may be any substance to it though.  However, I could just imagine if such a comment was posted on the county website by anyone, what would the county administrator have to say about that? Impetuious!!!!
Haha. I heard this myself. Who is he anyways like?

What's really upsetting me is that I put on my sky box today to watch yesterdays coverage to find out that it didn't record!!!! Not enough room on the hard disc because she who must be obeyed has filled it up with Kendra, Holly, Kardashians and other same as sh*te!!
Is anyone else tormented with the hell that is channel 151?

I'm going to have to go searching for a dvd now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!
Aha! them (green eyed 'Johns') MR2, should who could like them! If the truth be told, sure nobody likes the 'Johns'!  Except when their sh*tt**g in them!

I heard an intersesting story today at Casement about the County Secretary's son.  Alledgedly he made a comment to someone who attedned yesterdays game in Parnell -  "I dont know why you wasted your money going down their to watch that shower of shit Loughgiel" Irionic or what!!!!!!!.  I heard this from a third party of course, I am not sure they may be any substance to it though.  However, I could just imagine if such a comment was posted on the county website by anyone, what would the county administrator have to say about that? Impetuious!!!!
Haha. I heard this myself. Who is he anyways like?

What's really upsetting me is that I put on my sky box today to watch yesterdays coverage to find out that it didn't record!!!! Not enough room on the hard disc because she who must be obeyed has filled it up with Kendra, Holly, Kardashians and other same as sh*te!!
Is anyone else tormented with the hell that is channel 151?

I'm going to have to go searching for a dvd now!!
Is'nt it ironic, that he nows lives in CUSHENDALL!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!
Aha! them (green eyed 'Johns') MR2, should who could like them! If the truth be told, sure nobody likes the 'Johns'!  Except when their sh*tt**g in them!

I heard an intersesting story today at Casement about the County Secretary's son.  Alledgedly he made a comment to someone who attedned yesterdays game in Parnell -  "I dont know why you wasted your money going down their to watch that shower of shit Loughgiel" Irionic or what!!!!!!!.  I heard this from a third party of course, I am not sure they may be any substance to it though.  However, I could just imagine if such a comment was posted on the county website by anyone, what would the county administrator have to say about that? Impetuious!!!!
Haha. I heard this myself. Who is he anyways like?

What's really upsetting me is that I put on my sky box today to watch yesterdays coverage to find out that it didn't record!!!! Not enough room on the hard disc because she who must be obeyed has filled it up with Kendra, Holly, Kardashians and other same as sh*te!!
Is anyone else tormented with the hell that is channel 151?

I'm going to have to go searching for a dvd now!!
Is'nt it ironic, that he nows lives in CUSHENDALL!!!
Who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 09:40:06 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 20, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Most clubs don't get on FFS Seamroga,

Didn't get to the game today, was making my way back from my overnighter in Dublin :-X :-X

Minder who played well and was it promising?
Really? I'm still of the mindset that's it's an ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter that thinks like that.

Don't know of any City clubs that like each other, Can't see Rossa supporting the Johnnies or the Johnnies supporting us when we won the All Ireland last year!!
Aha! them (green eyed 'Johns') MR2, should who could like them! If the truth be told, sure nobody likes the 'Johns'!  Except when their sh*tt**g in them!

I heard an intersesting story today at Casement about the County Secretary's son.  Alledgedly he made a comment to someone who attedned yesterdays game in Parnell -  "I dont know why you wasted your money going down their to watch that shower of shit Loughgiel" Irionic or what!!!!!!!.  I heard this from a third party of course, I am not sure they may be any substance to it though.  However, I could just imagine if such a comment was posted on the county website by anyone, what would the county administrator have to say about that? Impetuious!!!!
Haha. I heard this myself. Who is he anyways like?

What's really upsetting me is that I put on my sky box today to watch yesterdays coverage to find out that it didn't record!!!! Not enough room on the hard disc because she who must be obeyed has filled it up with Kendra, Holly, Kardashians and other same as sh*te!!
Is anyone else tormented with the hell that is channel 151?

I'm going to have to go searching for a dvd now!!
Is'nt it ironic, that he nows lives in CUSHENDALL!!!
If you're talking about the stickman for the county..you are incorrect
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time
Carson is his fathers son anyway. Looked in poor enough shape for a boy his age playing county but was more than a handful in the second half under the(wind-assisted) dropping ball. Strange that Antrim didn't bury Clare as after the second Antrim goal there only looked like being one winner after coming from 11 points down at one stage. No killer instinct?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time
Carson is his fathers son anyway. Looked in poor enough shape for a boy his age playing county but was more than a handful in the second half under the(wind-assisted) dropping ball. Strange that Antrim didn't bury Clare as after the second Antrim goal there only looked like being one winner after coming from 11 points down at one stage. No killer instinct?
Aye he's not the quickest but took a couple of good scores & done well to set up the first goal.  You'd probablybe right about the lack of killer instinct. Any of the big teams would have pushed on. Antrim seemed to go very deep & the ball stopped going into the FF line in the last 10 minutes or so. Wouldnt have used Graffin as the spare man..maybe Neal McAuley as the spare man wasnt utilised at all. 2 points dropped
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 10:34:58 PM
I'm more interested in progression, we have a few players that are getting some game time and that's fine. (starting to sound like Dinny ::))

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 10:34:58 PM
I'm more interested in progression, we have a few players that are getting some game time and that's fine. (starting to sound like Dinny ::))
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 08:38:49 AM
I think that feeling of not turning up will eat more at LG than the fact that were beaten.

My problem was that they didnt seem to turn up with any game plan, if the ball wasnt going to LW what was plan B, didnt seem to be one.

As for the having a big squad, they do have a big squad of decidely average hurlers no disrespect intended but it is the truth. OLG were there for the taking and I have a feeling that a more experienced Cushendall or Dunloy team would have put them to the sword.

Be interesting to see the levels of hunger now from LG this year, a game like this in Feb makes for a very long year, esp when you have Irish league games and scramblers to race  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2011, 12:58:35 PM
An ill formed and little attending fair weather supporter wouldn't have known that...eh Seamroga  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time
Carson is his fathers son anyway. Looked in poor enough shape for a boy his age playing county but was more than a handful in the second half under the(wind-assisted) dropping ball. Strange that Antrim didn't bury Clare as after the second Antrim goal there only looked like being one winner after coming from 11 points down at one stage. No killer instinct?

Anybody give us a run down on how everyone performed in Casement yesterday? Sounds like one we should have kicked on to win in the last 10 minutes, although the Clare boys are doing a lot of whinging on anfearrua about the ref?

How did Carson play? Saw him against Dublin in the Walsh cup and I don't think he caught one ball, notwithstanding the amount lumped in on top of him. Hiney was playing full-back for the Dubs and caught every single ball over his head. Thought the Dubs looked very impressive against Tipp but nearly screwed it up with all their wides in the last 10 minutes. What the hell was Keaney doing wasting is time playing football for - he is one serious hurler!

I know dinny has a very jaundiced view about the league but I think yesterday represented a real opportunity to kick on and put ourselves in a position to contest the Division 2 final, which would have been a boost for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 01:38:37 PM
What would be the harm in taking these games seriously IMO the only way to gain confidence against the southern teams is by getting used to beating them.

It not that long ago that Antrim would have been beating Clare so when we get the chance to stick the knife in these sides esp at Casement we should really be doing so.

All you had to do was look at LG on saturday dont think any of them looked like they believed they could win the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2011, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2011, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 20, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Very Disappointing result today. Should have had that match won after getting level. As Minder says completely stopped after doing well to get back into it. Needed to get in front which Antrim didnt too. Very Poor up front. The two corner forwards were very poor & cant understand Dinny not starting Shane McN & only bringing him only just after half time
Carson is his fathers son anyway. Looked in poor enough shape for a boy his age playing county but was more than a handful in the second half under the(wind-assisted) dropping ball. Strange that Antrim didn't bury Clare as after the second Antrim goal there only looked like being one winner after coming from 11 points down at one stage. No killer instinct?

Anybody give us a run down on how everyone performed in Casement yesterday? Sounds like one we should have kicked on to win in the last 10 minutes, although the Clare boys are doing a lot of whinging on anfearrua about the ref?

How did Carson play? Saw him against Dublin in the Walsh cup and I don't think he caught one ball, notwithstanding the amount lumped in on top of him. Hiney was playing full-back for the Dubs and caught every single ball over his head. Thought the Dubs looked very impressive against Tipp but nearly screwed it up with all their wides in the last 10 minutes. What the hell was Keaney doing wasting is time playing football for - he is one serious hurler!

I know dinny has a very jaundiced view about the league but I think yesterday represented a real opportunity to kick on and put ourselves in a position to contest the Division 2 final, which would have been a boost for the championship.
Clare were poor enough so it's hard to tell. I thought Carson was alright and Shane McNaughton lived things up when he came on. Karl was busy as always but not sure how effective he was.

Clare are right to be slightly pissed off about the officials as the linesman below the stand gave a sideline cut to Antrim when it was obvious a Clare man never touched it. Antrim scored their second goal from that cut. Antrim could and should have won by 2 or 3 as Clare were down and out with 10 mins to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Standard of officials in the north wouldnt be my worry for these games after some of the attrocious decisions that Antrim and in fact every northern team has had to put up with for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Standard of officials in the north wouldnt be my worry for these games after some of the attrocious decisions that Antrim and in fact every northern team has had to put up with for years.
Well to be fair just before the sideline ball was awarded it appeared that the Clare player threw the ball instead of handpassing it. Justice was served :d

Terrible miss by Stewart at the end. Yet another Casement anticlimax.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 21, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Standard of officials in the north wouldnt be my worry for these games after some of the attrocious decisions that Antrim and in fact every northern team has had to put up with for years.


Two wrongs don't make a right NAG.

My opinions on Hassan aren't good as he's pretty biased and IMO gives Antrim teams the benefit of the doubt when playing Down teams and a lot of the time they don't need any assistance.
At least Tommy McIntyre's up front about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
I didnt say they did JC just was making the point that I wouldnt worry about it too much. Esp if the southern teams are bitching about it.  :D

I think Hassan is one of the better ones and is willing to try and let the game flow when he can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 21, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
I didnt say they did JC just was making the point that I wouldnt worry about it too much. Esp if the southern teams are bitching about it.  :D

I think Hassan is one of the better ones and is willing to try and let the game flow when he can.

depending on who's playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 21, 2011, 04:28:49 PM
I think your paranoid JC I just think he's a bad referee. Made some strange calls yesterday for both teams. He blew Chrissy O'Connell up for time wasting at the start of the match and I didn't think he actually was. But then never blew for it for the rest of the match when the Clare goalie was as bad. Also over -ruled his umpires to give Clare a point after they waved it wide. Was this biased? I don't know? Just a bad ref IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 21, 2011, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2011, 10:34:58 PM
I'm more interested in progression, we have a few players that are getting some game time and that's fine. (starting to sound like Dinny ::))

I couldn't agree more MR2.  The National League is the time to do these sort of things, get some lads game time, experiment with options.  However, it is still important that we at least stay in Division 2, and dint take a drop.  That would be disastrous!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 21, 2011, 06:00:38 PM
Who's your 2nd choice SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 10:32:07 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\
I was just trying to get a reaction pdiddy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\

No harm to him but I don't think he is good enough, our options are very limited though. I would play him every time before the Clare fella though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2011, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 10:32:07 PM
I was just trying to get a reaction pdiddy.

Today of all days, you're trying to get people to react? Would keeping stum not be a better option  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2011, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 10:32:07 PM
I was just trying to get a reaction pdiddy.

Today of all days, you're trying to get people to react? Would keeping stum not be a better option  :)
Never!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
Why not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2011, 09:25:02 AM
Think you should know well enough by now Skull  ;)

How many of the LG boys will be heading back to the county then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 22, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\

No harm to him but I don't think he is good enough, our options are very limited though. I would play him every time before the Clare fella though.

What are our options?  What's the craic with McGarry and McGee.  Both better keepers in my opinion.  Sad state of affairs when our 1st choice County keeper is only 2nd choice in his own club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 22, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\

No harm to him but I don't think he is good enough, our options are very limited though. I would play him every time before the Clare fella though.

What are our options?  What's the craic with McGarry and McGee.  Both better keepers in my opinion.  For state of affairs when our 1st choice County keeper is only 2nd choice in his own club.

McGarry is in either Australia or America I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 22, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\

No harm to him but I don't think he is good enough, our options are very limited though. I would play him every time before the Clare fella though.

What are our options?  What's the craic with McGarry and McGee.  Both better keepers in my opinion.  For state of affairs when our 1st choice County keeper is only 2nd choice in his own club.

McGhee played in the game against Offaly last year and was lucky to stay on the pitch after a wild swipe on an Offaly forward - Offaly were pulling away a bit at that time and I think the ref might have been a bit softer than he otherwise could have been - but disappeared thereafter and was replaced by O'Connell for the Carlow match.

DD Quinn seems  to have got very disillusioned in Dinny's last spell in charge - I seem to recall reading something to that effect in Christy O'Connor's Last Man Standing.

What's the story with Kieran McGourty - haven't seen his name featuring at all this year - is he off the panel?

How many Loughgiel boys will be coming back? Any new faces?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 22, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 21, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2011, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 21, 2011, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
Nothing like picking a 4th string Clare keeper for progress.

Seamroga you do know that your own clubman was in nets yesterday in Casement?
Yep, young O'Connell. Shamrock's third choice.  ;)

I think you've been in exile for too long. ;)  Young Chrissy's our 2nd keeper.

Is he going to be the 1st choice keeper for Antrim this year? :-\

No harm to him but I don't think he is good enough, our options are very limited though. I would play him every time before the Clare fella though.

What are our options?  What's the craic with McGarry and McGee.  Both better keepers in my opinion.  For state of affairs when our 1st choice County keeper is only 2nd choice in his own club.

McGhee played in the game against Offaly last year and was lucky to stay on the pitch after a wild swipe on an Offaly forward - Offaly were pulling away a bit at that time and I think the ref might have been a bit softer than he otherwise could have been - but disappeared thereafter and was replaced by O'Connell for the Carlow match.

DD Quinn seems  to have got very disillusioned in Dinny's last spell in charge - I seem to recall reading something to that effect in Christy O'Connor's Last Man Standing.

What's the story with Kieran McGourty - haven't seen his name featuring at all this year - is he off the panel?

How many Loughgiel boys will be coming back? Any new faces?

Was it not S&W that done away with DD?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2011, 01:20:32 PM
Your right Colonel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 01:18:52 PM
Was it not S&W that done away with DD?
A bit overly emotive on the language there colonel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
 :D

So the best three keepers in the county are unavailable for one reason or another.

Also not a massive fan of playing MH at CHB dont think this can be sustained for the year.
Suppose its early days
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 22, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 01:18:52 PM
Was it not S&W that done away with DD?
A bit overly emotive on the language there colonel.

Well describe as you feel appropriate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
He left the panel when S&W were the managers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
I didn't think there was anything "sinister" to DD retiring. I thought he just retired.

I wouldn't be so sure about Magee in that front mind.

Cushendall have two decent keepers do they not? Is Kearney not near county standard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 22, 2011, 04:55:08 PM
DD would be a perfectionist and might feel that Dinny doesn't take the net minding seriously enough, McGee just gives the impression he could take it or leave it which isn't much use at this level. So we are left with the boys who actually want to do it. A similar story in a good few counties I'd bet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
I didn't think there was anything "sinister" to DD retiring. I thought he just retired.

I wouldn't be so sure about Magee in that front mind.

Cushendall have two decent keepers do they not? Is Kearney not near county standard?

I think he didn't feel happy with S&W and probably deserved better treatment than that after his years of service.

We have been lucky to have 3 good keepers who have been pushing each other for the last few years and none of them have let us down. Ronan has had the edge over Freddie McAuley in the last couple of years, although Fred played in the club semi V DLS. Ronan was on the squad under S&W for a short while. Would be better than CO'C in my opinion. Obviously know nothing about Sean Hawes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2011, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 22, 2011, 05:14:03 PM
I think he didn't feel happy with S&W and probably deserved better treatment than that after his years of service.

What I think I heard was that he believed he was showing more commitment than his understudy(ies) in terms of training but wasn't getting considered come match time so he decided to leave the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 08:27:47 AM
Would agree with that conclusion skull.

That makes 3 very talented keepers not available.

Any one going to the Ulster Hurling coaching day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 23, 2011, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 08:27:47 AM
Would agree with that conclusion skull.

That makes 3 very talented keepers not available.

Any one going to the Ulster Hurling coaching day?
Yes goin down to it, Have you finalised the lunch menu skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 08:59:50 AM
Some strange workshops on it from reading the programme on the Ulster website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 23, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
Haven't seen this one before, should be interesting.
"Promoting individuality, freedom of expression & risk taking into the session"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 23, 2011, 11:16:40 AM
Think we can forget about Sean Hawes as an option (whether right or wrong to have him before antrim club men) - have heard Croke Pk have refused to allow his transfer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
IMO it was a non starter anyway, how would someone committ to a county set up fully while still playing clubs games in the south? Didnt make sense to me.

Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
Haven't seen this one before, should be interesting.
"Promoting individuality, freedom of expression & risk taking into the session"

In other words how to work with the mavericks in every team, maybe two of the boys from one of the earlier workshops could have been drafted in as prime examples of this type of player  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 23, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
I find it a joke that Ronan hasn't been at least approached by Dinny , he was the most consistant keeper in the league last year Mc Gee included( cost dunloy victory) in league v The Dall last year. Ronan has the biggest puck in the County his weak point when younger was catching which def isn't now, he is a lot braver that COC or Mc Garry who seemed to be in the back of the net before the ball was struck. He is The Dall's no1 as Fred doesn't make the half way line with puck outs which is a problem. At 27/28 he has experience and works hard and isn't a messer nor a drinker during the season, Does Dinny read this Board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 23, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
Fair comment JH. I always see him spectating at county games so clearly has an interest. I know he puts a lot of work into his game as all good keepers should.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2011, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 23, 2011, 08:36:52 AM
Yes goin down to it, Have you finalised the lunch menu skull.

EGM call for tonight to get it sorted LM. Club is spilt between egg or ham?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 01:53:25 PM
JamesH - Id have to take issue with your glowing assessment. R is a massively improved goal keeper but he is not of the standard of shot stopping of either of the three, DQ GMcG or RMcG. Also all three on their day have a better more accurate puck out, just lumping it long isnt alwyas the answer.

Just stating my opinion nothing against the lad at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2011, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 01:53:25 PM
JamesH - Id have to take issue with your glowing assessment. R is a massively improved goal keeper but he is not of the standard of shot stopping of either of the three, DQ GMcG or RMcG. Also all three on their day have a better more accurate puck out, just lumping it long isnt alwyas the answer.

Just stating my opinion nothing against the lad at all.

Again entitled to opinion but as I earlied stated Ronan has never let us down or had goals conceeded in games due to poor shot stopping. It hasn't been a Cushendall tactic to use a short poc out so that's not Ronan's fault. To be honest we've never had tactic's anywhere. The three you mentioned aren't available for different reasons, so RK would be the most logical choice for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2011, 02:23:18 PM
Colonel wasnt disputing the fact that he should be asked to keep goals for the county as he very well may be and he would be my preference to any of the other contenders available. My point was simply that while he is a good keeper he would IMO just be slightly below the level of the other three mentioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
I'm sure there are a dozen or more club hurlers out there who are more than up to the standard on IC but for one reason or another can't/won't commit. Far better encouraging and supporting those who have committed or are prepared to rather than being negative about their ability relative to those who won't commit. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 23, 2011, 03:53:50 PM
I would say NAG1 both DD and R Mc G more so the later until Sat is constansly caught out on short puck outs, a tactic used badly by S&W in their time with the county. Mc Garry caused the town 1-2 against us in the league last year. RK is quite accurate on long puck although if forwards or midfield don't make runs they are hard to pick out, it should be easier with better players than in the club,  just saying in our predicament he's worth a look at. Mc Ghee shouldn't even be mentioned as he doesn't want to know his own club can't depend on him. COC has a mistake every game.
First game in UL on Sat in Town so gives us something to do, great and county boys available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on February 24, 2011, 10:00:53 AM
Kearney probably is worth a look, only because of the current situation though. I would have thought a manager would have taken a chance on him at some stage by now if they thought he was up to it. IMHO he isn't mobile enough, but certainly worth a chance. I would also say that RK could be on the bench for Cdall in the next year or two as the young minor keeper, McAllister I think, is supposed to be a cracker. I saw him in the minor semi v the Town and it was as good a performance as I have seen between the sticks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on February 24, 2011, 12:44:45 PM
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Kearney probably is worth a look, only because of the current situation though. I would have thought a manager would have taken a chance on him at some stage by now if they thought he was up to it. IMHO he isn't mobile enough, but certainly worth a chance. I would also say that RK could be on the bench for Cdall in the next year or two as the young minor keeper, McAllister I think, is supposed to be a cracker. I saw him in the minor semi v the Town and it was as good a performance as I have seen between the sticks.

Also will agree with you on this one , mc allister is a great shop stopper , great poc outs and stick work is great , his only problem would be under the high ball but as a very light in build lad , hoping he will fill out next year or two and be braver and im sure hell be No1 for club and county, best striker of a ball ive seen , hits it as far as any senior kepper with deadly accuracy ... keeping his interest would also be a big thing though being in an undefeated minor team of cushendalls this year has made him keep interest for the moment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 24, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on February 24, 2011, 12:44:45 PM
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Kearney probably is worth a look, only because of the current situation though. I would have thought a manager would have taken a chance on him at some stage by now if they thought he was up to it. IMHO he isn't mobile enough, but certainly worth a chance. I would also say that RK could be on the bench for Cdall in the next year or two as the young minor keeper, McAllister I think, is supposed to be a cracker. I saw him in the minor semi v the Town and it was as good a performance as I have seen between the sticks.

Also will agree with you on this one , mc allister is a great shop stopper , great poc outs and stick work is great , his only problem would be under the high ball but as a very light in build lad , hoping he will fill out next year or two and be braver and im sure hell be No1 for club and county, best striker of a ball ive seen , hits it as far as any senior kepper with deadly accuracy ... keeping his interest would also be a big thing though being in an undefeated minor team of cushendalls this year has made him keep interest for the moment
Teams win championships!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 24, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
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Kearney probably is worth a look, only because of the current situation though. I would have thought a manager would have taken a chance on him at some stage by now if they thought he was up to it. IMHO he isn't mobile enough, but certainly worth a chance. I would also say that RK could be on the bench for Cdall in the next year or two as the young minor keeper, McAllister I think, is supposed to be a cracker. I saw him in the minor semi v the Town and it was as good a performance as I have seen between the sticks.

Also will agree with you on this one , mc allister is a great shop stopper , great poc outs and stick work is great , his only problem would be under the high ball but as a very light in build lad , hoping he will fill out next year or two and be braver and im sure hell be No1 for club and county, best striker of a ball ive seen , hits it as far as any senior kepper with deadly accuracy ... keeping his interest would also be a big thing though being in an undefeated minor team of cushendalls this year has made him keep interest for the moment

General, would you say that this boy, McAlister, should be pushing onto the Cushendall Senior panel in the near future?  From what I can see, the dall' have their pick of keepers at the moment in RK, FMcA, and EG, will CMcA push them all out the door?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on February 25, 2011, 05:48:35 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on February 24, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
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Kearney probably is worth a look, only because of the current situation though. I would have thought a manager would have taken a chance on him at some stage by now if they thought he was up to it. IMHO he isn't mobile enough, but certainly worth a chance. I would also say that RK could be on the bench for Cdall in the next year or two as the young minor keeper, McAllister I think, is supposed to be a cracker. I saw him in the minor semi v the Town and it was as good a performance as I have seen between the sticks.

Also will agree with you on this one , mc allister is a great shop stopper , great poc outs and stick work is great , his only problem would be under the high ball but as a very light in build lad , hoping he will fill out next year or two and be braver and im sure hell be No1 for club and county, best striker of a ball ive seen , hits it as far as any senior kepper with deadly accuracy ... keeping his interest would also be a big thing though being in an undefeated minor team of cushendalls this year has made him keep interest for the moment

General, would you say that this boy, McAlister, should be pushing onto the Cushendall Senior panel in the near future?  From what I can see, the dall' have their pick of keepers at the moment in RK, FMcA, and EG, will CMcA push them all out the door?

In my opinion i believe he should be, hes got plenty of talent although he could do with some help under the high ball (like us all) i dnt think hell push them all out the door as such but i think he'd be contending for there places were it be between the sticks , or on the bench for the seniors...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 25, 2011, 05:53:28 PM
Looking in from the outside, I think you may be right.  All to often the goalkeeping position is forgotten about and there isn't generally a great challenge for the position.  If he concentrates his efforts on continuously improving I can see him making that push sooner rather than later.  At 18 he has the potential to be brilliant - and I've only seen him play in one championship season! 

Does he need help under the high ball?  I'm nearly sure he didn't drop a ball in any games I've seen?  He might be a wirey lad but he's got a brave height about him.  His progression onto the senior setup will be the real teller.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on February 25, 2011, 05:58:28 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on February 25, 2011, 05:53:28 PM
Looking in from the outside, I think you may be right.  All to often the goalkeeping position is forgotten about and there isn't generally a great challenge for the position.  If he concentrates his efforts on continuously improving I can see him making that push sooner rather than later.  At 18 he has the potential to be brilliant - and I've only seen him play in one championship season! 

Does he need help under the high ball?  I'm nearly sure he didn't drop a ball in any games I've seen?  He might be a wirey lad but he's got a brave height about him.  His progression onto the senior setup will be the real teller.

He is good under a high ball with no pressure yes (aren't we all) but when the usual roaming full forward is there to add pressure he tends to bat the ball out with his stick , may be alright at minor just about but a senior you wouldnt get away with it 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 25, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on February 25, 2011, 05:58:28 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on February 25, 2011, 05:53:28 PM
Looking in from the outside, I think you may be right.  All to often the goalkeeping position is forgotten about and there isn't generally a great challenge for the position.  If he concentrates his efforts on continuously improving I can see him making that push sooner rather than later.  At 18 he has the potential to be brilliant - and I've only seen him play in one championship season! 

Does he need help under the high ball?  I'm nearly sure he didn't drop a ball in any games I've seen?  He might be a wirey lad but he's got a brave height about him.  His progression onto the senior setup will be the real teller.

He is good under a high ball with no pressure yes (aren't we all) but when the usual roaming full forward is there to add pressure he tends to bat the ball out with his stick , may be alright at minor just about but a senior you wouldnt get away with it
He should do what the 'Johns' keeper does, just welt the 'roaming full forward' then!   That's what he usually does!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 25, 2011, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 25, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on February 25, 2011, 05:58:28 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on February 25, 2011, 05:53:28 PM
Looking in from the outside, I think you may be right.  All to often the goalkeeping position is forgotten about and there isn't generally a great challenge for the position.  If he concentrates his efforts on continuously improving I can see him making that push sooner rather than later.  At 18 he has the potential to be brilliant - and I've only seen him play in one championship season! 

Does he need help under the high ball?  I'm nearly sure he didn't drop a ball in any games I've seen?  He might be a wirey lad but he's got a brave height about him.  His progression onto the senior setup will be the real teller.

He is good under a high ball with no pressure yes (aren't we all) but when the usual roaming full forward is there to add pressure he tends to bat the ball out with his stick , may be alright at minor just about but a senior you wouldnt get away with it
He should do what the 'Johns' keeper does, just welt the 'roaming full forward' then!   That's what he usually does!!!!

Not so sure about that múinteoirmór, down in the glens there is normally an emphasis put on playing a good brand of  hurling rather than making up for what is lacking by turning the hurl on its heel! 

Agree with that General - just don't get away with that sort of carry out at senior.  I remember watching a match between Garron Tower and St Louis in the Mageean Cup a number of years ago.  Goal keeper was on fire all afternoon, but the one ball he batted out ended in the net - ach, sin mar a phreabhann an sliotar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 26, 2011, 04:24:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 25, 2011, 11:07:30 PM
I'll have to unbite my tongue here on the big teacher.
On goalkeepers:
First of all, you have blamed Rossa's loss to Buffer's Alley in 1989 on Paddy Quinn, which couldn't be further from the truth. You'd have to wonder if he is a Rossa man at all, with this thinking, (never heard in Rossa before).

He is now saying that Ciaran Cunningham (the 'Johns') is a 'dirty' goalkeeper. Again, what the fcuk is he talking about?

General points:
I have never in my life heard anyone refer to St. John's/The Johnnies as The 'Johns'.

I have never in my life met a Rossa man with a good thing to say about Loughgiel, never mind a man who comes in his pants at the first mention of them.

When asking a Rossa man "Any craic from last night?" (considering that the Rossa AGM took place the night before), you don't expect him to care about nothing else but a friendly that Loughgiel played that night.

One has to wonder.
Such cynicism, amazing!  Typical of all thats wrong in the county.  Well, here is one Rossa man who is always willing to acknowledge the good in other teams, with the exception of the 'Johns' of course!  IMHO, Loughgiel I feel are the best team I have seen in the county for some considerable time, bearing in mind there is not much happening in the city!  It's also clear to see you don't know all the people in Rossa! And you have also came across someone who has always referred to St. John's as the 'Johns'.  Isn't life really full of surprises!!!!!!!!!  I think I am going to start liking the 'Johns' because nobody else does!  I think it would annoy them even more if I started liking them!  God bless the 'Johns'!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2011, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 25, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 20, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
They will never, ever, be forgiven.

What for HS ? ???

Just noticed this. The time yis jumped the fence and hospitalised at least two of our minors.
We've had our share of this happening to us too HS. Time to move on methinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 26, 2011, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2011, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 25, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 20, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
They will never, ever, be forgiven.

What for HS ? ???

Just noticed this. The time yis jumped the fence and hospitalised at least two of our minors.
We've had our share of this happening to us too HS. Time to move on methinks.
Some people just don't/won't move on Seamroga!  A pity a few others were not wacked when the fence was scaled, not the minors of course!!!! 

I see you have a problem HS with DEMOCRACY also, a sore loser I guess! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2011, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 26, 2011, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2011, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 25, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 20, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
They will never, ever, be forgiven.

What for HS ? ???

Just noticed this. The time yis jumped the fence and hospitalised at least two of our minors.
We've had our share of this happening to us too HS. Time to move on methinks.
Some people just don't/won't move on Seamroga!  A pity a few others were not wacked when the fence was scaled, not the minors of course!!!! 

I see you have a problem HS with DEMOCRACY also, a sore loser I guess! ;D
There's no justification for anyone "scaling the fence" no matter what clubs are involved. We can all go back and dredge up failings of clubs "supporters" in this specific regard but it ultimately leads no where but to the recycling of the same old sh*t over and over again. It was dealt with at the time, as were they all.

Nice edit by the way.    ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 27, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Thanks Seamaroga, sure you know it makes sense.  I could not agree nore with your comments regarding 'scaling fences'.  well said!

Looking at the Antrim website, it would appear we are a 'football' county again! Although, very sure the footballers will make the drop! ;)

"One swallow does not make a summer" and all that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 27, 2011, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 27, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
Thanks Seamaroga, sure you know it makes sense.  I could not agree nore with your comments regarding 'scaling fences'.  well said!

Looking at the Antrim website, it would appear we are a 'football' county again! Although, very sure the footballers will make the drop! ;)

"One swallow does not make a summer" and all that!

That 'HS' bloke, I think the Ballymurphy Champagne is going to his head!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
Are the championship draws on tonight?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 28, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
Yes draws are happening tonight at county meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 28, 2011, 12:02:34 PM
Any news on the McAuley Cup match yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2011, 12:25:59 PM
The Town won by a point from reports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 28, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
It's been a while since the town has rolled Dunloy in a cup game, anybody spectating?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
We'll probably get the Milltown men again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on February 28, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
We'll probably get the Milltown men again.

I hope we get use ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 28, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on February 28, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
We'll probably get the Milltown men again.

I hope we get use ;)

General, you need to back a statement like that up with some sort of reason!  I think that two of the big three will meet each other before the semi final stage this year - not so sure how that will leave the final with maybe both teams having an easier semi final than previous years!  Atleast it won't be as bad as last year's final anyway - seemed to be more of a charity donation than anything else!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
We'll probably get the Milltown men again.

would there by any chance of getting ya's in Belfast for a change??

Come August my car automatically heads towards Loughgiel!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
We'll probably get the Milltown men again.

would there by any chance of getting ya's in Belfast for a change??

Come August my car automatically heads towards Loughgiel!!
I wouldn't mind another trip up to the bright lights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 28, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
The Town won 0:17 to 0:16. Game of two halves with Dunloy up by 6 at HT. Ballycastle responded well and helped by some lazy tackling got right back in the game from frees.

Both teams fairly strong

With regards championship draws its nearly time the big three where all drawn in the same side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 08:19:43 PM
MR2, how did the big dinner go on Saturday in the Dome of Delight?  I hear all the big whigs were in attendance!  Although, I have heard that there was no representation for the county, no county chairman, no county secretary etc. Were they all at Casement instead counting the pennies? 

I was at the match myself, which is new for me watching the big ball game.  I now know why I dont watch Antrim Football, very poor performances despite the narrow win.  I really could not see this team staying up in Div 2.  I will just go to the wee ball games in future. For the life of me, I dont know why I ventured up to Casement on Saturday.  I should have stayed in the club for a few more pints of the dark stuff!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on February 28, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
When are the hurling championship draws men?  Cushendall for me this year after behind hurt.  Fancy them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
I believe we got Rossa first round. North Antrim venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on February 28, 2011, 08:49:22 PM
When are the hurling championship draws men?  Cushendall for me this year after behind hurt.  Fancy them!

"that bleak November day"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
I believe we got Rossa first round. North Antrim venue.

We will give you a good run this year Seamroga!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
I believe we got Rossa first round. North Antrim venue.

We will give you a good run this year Seamroga!
I'd prefer a good contest, but shams should win by at least 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Well any more draws made?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 09:12:57 PM
I haven't heard anymore, I got this info on Barney McAuley's facebook.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
Big three avoid each other?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:14:19 PM
Big three avoid each other?
Are St. Galls in Senior/intermediate Championship this year MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
Senior, learn nothing at intermd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:25:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
Senior, learn nothing at intermd.
St. Galls are somewhere in no mans land really, above intermediate level and labouring in senior?  But you will always have the football dual player issue which seems to impact on St. Galls ability to hurl competitively.  Are you managing them this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:34:14 PM
No not this year. We have a fresh face with great passion for hurling. A previous captain. Just got the text. Seems we got the worst of the big three......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 28, 2011, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 28, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
The Town won 0:17 to 0:16. Game of two halves with Dunloy up by 6 at HT. Ballycastle responded well and helped by some lazy tackling got right back in the game from frees.

Both teams fairly strong

With regards championship draws its nearly time the big three where all drawn in the same side

The cross field wind didnt help the match and i thought it was competitive enough for the time of year. Dunloy certainly had much the better of the 1st half and the pace of their corner forwards was causing concern. Ballycastle improved 2nd half and had a few nice passages of play. Early days for both teams.

Championship draw is:

B'castle / St Johns vs L'giel / Rossa

C'dall / Glenariffe vs Dunloy / St Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:37:13 PM
Loughgiel be happy. another final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2011, 09:37:46 PM
Interesting. Looks like another final beckons.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 28, 2011, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 28, 2011, 07:07:38 PM
The Town won 0:17 to 0:16. Game of two halves with Dunloy up by 6 at HT. Ballycastle responded well and helped by some lazy tackling got right back in the game from frees.

Both teams fairly strong

With regards championship draws its nearly time the big three where all drawn in the same side

The cross field wind didnt help the match and i thought it was competitive enough for the time of year. Dunloy certainly had much the better of the 1st half and the pace of their corner forwards was causing concern. Ballycastle improved 2nd half and had a few nice passages of play. Early days for both teams.

Championship draw is:

B'castle / St Johns vs L'giel / Rossa

C'dall / Glenariffe vs Dunloy / St Galls
St. Galls would certainly have a chance here.  Nothing much to fear if you ask me, if they get themselves sorted.  Some decent players on the Galls team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:37:13 PM
Loughgiel be happy. another final
This side of the draw will not do them any favours, B/castle, Us, the Johns, should be easy enough, although more competive games would suit them better I thnk!

Is there a South Antrim Select this year or has this idea faltered miserably?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 28, 2011, 09:44:06 PM
Fairhead do the first team out still get 'home' advantage in the QF. That would mean all 3 city teams travelling to NA.

Interesting draw, Loughgiel will be the happiest,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:50:10 PM
Having played many a game at senior championship I'd say we have had maybe (talking straight knock out) 2/3 games in Belfast!! who pulls these balls out and do the big three ever meet in the first round??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 28, 2011, 09:50:26 PM
I dont know if thats the way the teams came out of the hat; thats just the way i was told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 28, 2011, 09:50:26 PM
I dont know if thats the way the teams came out of the hat; thats just the way i was told.
Thanks for posting Fairhead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Gorts back at Intermediate then i take it?

Cushendall to win it this year (if they can beat us in the semi ;))

Clooney Gaels to win Intermediate, and possibly win division two, impressed by them to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Gorts back at Intermediate then i take it?

Cushendall to win it this year (if they can beat us in the semi ;))

Clooney Gaels to win Intermediate, and possibly win division two, impressed by them to be fair
Were you at the big shin dig on Saturday MR, any reports? Did the McGourtys behave?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on February 28, 2011, 10:01:49 PM
"The landlord and the sheriff came, to drive us all away"

A definite Loughgiel / Cushendall final i'd say but Rossa on their day are capable of upsetting the odds.  Disappointed to see that GNM are in intermediate.  Thought they wouldn't be back at that level with the talent they had up there coming through.  Good to see St Galls back in the big time.  Think they will struggle as they have went backwards in hurling terms but they have the potential to be a good hurling team - some serious players and im not even talking about the household name hurlers.

I'd say cushendall for the Senior.  Gorts or Clooney for the Inter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Gorts back at Intermediate then i take it?

Cushendall to win it this year (if they can beat us in the semi ;))

Clooney Gaels to win Intermediate, and possibly win division two, impressed by them to be fair
Were you at the big shin dig on Saturday MR, any reports? Did the McGourtys behave?

Couldn't make, was at a friends surprise 40th birthday party. I've had no reports of any trouble :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: 4father on February 28, 2011, 10:01:49 PM
"The landlord and the sheriff came, to drive us all away"

A definite Loughgiel / Cushendall final i'd say but Rossa on their day are capable of upsetting the odds.  Disappointed to see that GNM are in intermediate.  Thought they wouldn't be back at that level with the talent they had up there coming through.  Good to see St Galls back in the big time.  Think they will struggle as they have went backwards in hurling terms but they have the potential to be a good hurling team - some serious players and im not even talking about the household name hurlers.

I'd say cushendall for the Senior.  Gorts or Clooney for the Inter
"and thats another reason why, we all shout F*** the Queen"  or words to that effect!

Would have to agree 4father, Galls could progress handily enough if they go their house in order with reference to hurling, some goods lads on their team.  I am sure they are frustrated though playing second fiddle to the foootballers, but an inherent problem with dual codes/teams at semior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on February 28, 2011, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on February 28, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: 4father on February 28, 2011, 10:01:49 PM
"The landlord and the sheriff came, to drive us all away"

A definite Loughgiel / Cushendall final i'd say but Rossa on their day are capable of upsetting the odds.  Disappointed to see that GNM are in intermediate.  Thought they wouldn't be back at that level with the talent they had up there coming through.  Good to see St Galls back in the big time.  Think they will struggle as they have went backwards in hurling terms but they have the potential to be a good hurling team - some serious players and im not even talking about the household name hurlers.

I'd say cushendall for the Senior.  Gorts or Clooney for the Inter
"and thats another reason why, we all shout F*** the Queen"  or words to that effect!

;D agreed!

Here's one for you all.  If we are happy to let the Down teams play in the leagues, i reckon we should let them play in the Antrim championship.  Agreed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on February 28, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
any news on the junior draw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 28, 2011, 10:59:43 PM
SHC Draw was drawn as;

Loughgiel v Rossa
Cushendall v Glenariffe
St. Galls v Dunloy
Ballycastle v St. John's

So from that i reckon first teams have 'home' advantage (Belfast or N. Antrim venues)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
Aye that's what i heard

I fairly cried that home venue Max/Skull
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2011, 11:36:23 PM
You can put that dummy in milltown  :)

(http://fancydressheaven.co.uk/bmz_cache/7/7b2de4c12f39f47f9d20c0fa6f6f1a53.image.300x450.jpg)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 01, 2011, 08:34:04 AM
Quote from: aontroim on February 28, 2011, 10:59:43 PM
SHC Draw was drawn as;

Loughgiel v Rossa
Cushendall v Glenariffe
St. Galls v Dunloy
Ballycastle v St. John's

So from that i reckon first teams have 'home' advantage (Belfast or N. Antrim venues)

We'll be happy with that draw although any one of Rossa, St John's or Ballycastle are capable of beating us on their day so we can't afford to take any game lightly.  I suppose the same applies to Cushendall and Dunloy as both their 1st round games are potential banana skins (can you have a potential banana skin or is it just a banana skin  :-\).   That said would still fancy the 'Big Three' to progress with 'The Town' v 'The Johnnies' a hard one to call at this early stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 01, 2011, 08:44:58 AM
Interesting draw all round LG be the happiest without doubt, but there is always that risk of reaching the final under cooked with the other side of the draw being much more competitive. Makes you look forward to the summer now.

Be interesting to see if Ballycastle can deliver on their promise of the last few years, have way too much talent to be struggling the way they are.

All in all interesting times ahead!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 01, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/uploads/documents/2011%20Antrim%20C,ship%20draws%20-PDF.pdf - full draws just been posted on county site.

JHC

1 St Endas v Mc Dermotts
2 All Saints v Ardoyne
3 Creggan v Larne

1/4 Finals

A St Agnes v 2
B 3 v Cushendun
C O Donnells v Glenravel
D Davitts v 1

Semi-Finals

B v A
C v D

IHC

1 St Pauls V Clooney Gaels
2 Tir Na Nog V Carey
3 Rasharkin V Cloughmills
4 Sarsfields V St Teresas

1/4-Finals

A Shane O Neills v 3
B 4 v Armoy
C Gort Na Mona v 1
D Lamh Dhearg v 2

Semi-Finals

D v C
B v A
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
Thats a tight intermediate championship. there are at least  4\5 teams looking to win that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 01, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 01, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/uploads/documents/2011%20Antrim%20C,ship%20draws%20-PDF.pdf - full draws just been posted on county site.

JHC

1 St Endas v Mc Dermotts
2 All Saints v Ardoyne
3 Creggan v Larne

1/4 Finals

A St Agnes v 2
B 3 v Cushendun
C O Donnells v Glenravel
D Davitts v 1

Semi-Finals

B v A
C v D

IHC

1 St Pauls V Clooney Gaels
2 Tir Na Nog V Carey
3 Rasharkin V Cloughmills
4 Sarsfields V St Teresas

1/4-Finals

A Shane O Neills v 3
B 4 v Armoy
C Gort Na Mona v 1
D Lamh Dhearg v 2

Semi-Finals

D v C
B v A

Its good to see the right teams entering the right championships (bar one maybe)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 01, 2011, 08:31:41 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 01, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on March 01, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
http://antrim.Gaea.IE/uploads/documents/2011%20Antrim%20C,ship%20draws%20-PDF.PD - full draws just been posted on county site.

JHC

1 St Ends v MC Dermot's
2 All Saints v Ardine
3 Regan v Lane

1/4 Finals

A St Agnes v 2
B 3 v Cushioned
C O Donnells v Glenravel
D Davits v 1

Semifinals

B v A
C v D

IHC

1 St Paul's V Colony Gaels
2 Tie Na Bog V Carey
3 Rashark in V Cloughmills
4 Subfields V St Teresa's

1/4-Finals

A Shane O Neill's v 3
B 4 v Army
C Girt Na Mona v 1
D Lam Dhaka v 2

Semifinals

D v C
B v A

Its good to see the right teams entering the right championships (bar one maybe)

What are the 'Johns' going to do for silverware this year!  Miraculous medals? ;D ;)  MR, maybe your boys could lend them a wee throphy or two?  Come on, have a heart MR!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 02, 2011, 02:20:44 AM
Not that i've ever heard them being called the 'johns', but i reckon they might well do alright.  They've a good chance of beating the Town and then on their day, they could cause an upset.  You have to hand it to them, they are handy enough when they are on their game as Rossa learned last year.

I'd love to see Rossa make a good breakthrough this year by getting out of division 2 and getting a run in the championship.  They are probably the most progressive hurling club in belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Me neither.  The 'Johns' are very poor really, the 'town' should deal with them handy enough! I am still wondering what they are going to do for a piece of silverware!  Any suggestions?  I think our lads will give it a decent go this year.  We are in a rebuilding process, just like the 'town'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 02, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Me neither.  The 'Johns' are very poor really, the 'town' should deal with them handy enough! I am still wondering what they are going to do for a piece of silverware!  Any suggestions?  I think our lads will give it a decent go this year.  We are in a rebuilding process, just like the 'town'.

Well St Johns would say that they are also at a rebuilding stage.  What are Rossa going to do for a piece of silverware?  Suggestions?  And to be honest, i know that St Johns won Division 2 last year, Rossa didn't so as it stands and their last contest, it pains me to say it but St Johns are the best hurling team in Belfast.

They aren't poor, they have a good pedigree and some very dangerous and steady players in the team.  There's a decent mix of youth and experience.  They aren't Cushendall but i think its unfair to call them poor and if they are then Rossa are poorer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 02, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Me neither.  The 'Johns' are very poor really, the 'town' should deal with them handy enough! I am still wondering what they are going to do for a piece of silverware!  Any suggestions?  I think our lads will give it a decent go this year.  We are in a rebuilding process, just like the 'town'.

Well St Johns would say that they are also at a rebuilding stage.  What are Rossa going to do for a piece of silverware?  Suggestions?  And to be honest, i know that St Johns won Division 2 last year, Rossa didn't so as it stands and their last contest, it pains me to say it but St Johns are the best hurling team in Belfast.

I agree that we are poor also, without question!  Any 'Johns' man with a stick in his hand is certainly dangerous, so so dangerous without one though.  Enough said!  Catch my drift?  ;)

They aren't poor, they have a good pedigree and some very dangerous and steady players in the team.  There's a decent mix of youth and experience.  They aren't Cushendall but i think its unfair to call them poor and if they are then Rossa are poorer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 02, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Me neither.  The 'Johns' are very poor really, the 'town' should deal with them handy enough! I am still wondering what they are going to do for a piece of silverware!  Any suggestions?  I think our lads will give it a decent go this year.  We are in a rebuilding process, just like the 'town'.

Well St Johns would say that they are also at a rebuilding stage.  What are Rossa going to do for a piece of silverware?  Suggestions?  And to be honest, i know that St Johns won Division 2 last year, Rossa didn't so as it stands and their last contest, it pains me to say it but St Johns are the best hurling team in Belfast.


They aren't poor, they have a good pedigree and some very dangerous and steady players in the team.  There's a decent mix of youth and experience.  They aren't Cushendall but i think its unfair to call them poor and if they are then Rossa are poorer.
I agree that we are poor also, without question!  Any 'Johns' man with a stick in his hand is certainly dangerous, not so dangerous without one though.  Enough said!  Catch my drift?  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2011, 10:19:35 PM
 :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 02, 2011, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 02, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 02, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 02, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Cant see St Johns beating Ballycastle on that side of the draw, plus Ballycastle would be the only side to put it up to LG in that half of the draw.
Me neither.  The 'Johns' are very poor really, the 'town' should deal with them handy enough! I am still wondering what they are going to do for a piece of silverware!  Any suggestions?  I think our lads will give it a decent go this year.  We are in a rebuilding process, just like the 'town'.

Well St Johns would say that they are also at a rebuilding stage.  What are Rossa going to do for a piece of silverware?  Suggestions?  And to be honest, i know that St Johns won Division 2 last year, Rossa didn't so as it stands and their last contest, it pains me to say it but St Johns are the best hurling team in Belfast.


They aren't poor, they have a good pedigree and some very dangerous and steady players in the team.  There's a decent mix of youth and experience.  They aren't Cushendall but i think its unfair to call them poor and if they are then Rossa are poorer.
I agree that we are poor also, without question!  Any 'Johns' man with a stick in his hand is certainly dangerous, not so dangerous without one though.  Enough said!  Catch my drift?  ;)


Not really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 02, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Do you mean that because you have a fierce and old rivalry with St johns that they are all cowards or something to that effect?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 03, 2011, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 02, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Do you mean that because you have a fierce and old rivalry with St johns that they are all cowards or something to that effect?
In a Nutshell, Yes!  100% Correct!  But I am slowly learning to love them, because that would get their goat even more!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 03, 2011, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 03, 2011, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 02, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Do you mean that because you have a fierce and old rivalry with St johns that they are all cowards or something to that effect?
In a Nutshell, Yes!  100% Correct!  But I am slowly learning to love them, because that would get their goat even more!

Some of the St Johns men would probably walk past you in the street oblivious to your burning hatred for fellow gaels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
Full on WUM's here!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 03, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
WUM mean newstart?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 03, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Ahhhhh Wind Up Merchant!!!!!  Had a brain fart there.

Milltown, have you boys got yourselves a manager yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2011, 10:37:16 PM
Yes new manager in and has had his first game, UHL game on Tuesday night there. Off to a win with only two seniors playing (county players away and stack of injuries)

Very difficult to get people to take teams and we have a past Captain in place to look after the team. So looking forward to the new season. I'll concentrate on division 4 this year and play out the reminder of my hurling in places like Ballymena, Larne Glengormely and Twinbrook (full body kit required this season ;D ;D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 03, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
Long way from Croke Park alright but sure you'd still be running about after the white ball like a madman like the rest of us old folk!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 03, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
Long way from Croke Park alright but sure you'd still be running about after the white ball like a madman like the rest of us old folk!

When you get to a certain vintage running round like a madman is not an option, you just hope the ball makes it to you and then use whatever energy left to try and muster a turn to get a shot away. Running is for young fella's, its more of a trundle now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
No problem running, its the recovery period i have the problem with!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2011, 10:29:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
No problem running, its the recovery period i have the problem with!!

Its like the old saying, if the warm up takes longer than the game then its time to hang them up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 04, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
04 March 2011
Antrim Squad to face Laois
Saturday 5th March 2011
NATIONAL HURLING LEAGUE ROUND 3


1. Christopher O Connell

2. Neil McAuley
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Aaron Graffin

5. Kevin McKeague
6. Michael Herron
7. Ciaran Herron

8. Karl Stewart
9. Colm McFall

10. Neil McManus
11. Eddie McCloskey
12. Simon McCrory

13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. Liam Kearns


16. Sean Hawes
17. Shane McNaughton
18. Thomas McCann
19. James Black
20. James McCouaig
21. Matthew Donnelly
22. Christopher McGuinness
23. Johnny Campbell
24. Kevin Molloy

There are injuries to some players including Karl McKeegan, Michael Armstrong, Barry McFall and PJ O'Connell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 04, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
Why the f**k is Shane McNaughton not starting? Ridiculous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
Conor Liam and Darren are clearly better hurlers!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
Conor Liam and Darren are clearly better hurlers!!
Clearly not if shane has came on and scored several points each time, think hes being used as an impact sub atm but dont see why , In my opinion hes a better hurler than the three of them. Carsons big and strong under high ball , which i can see why hes on full forward , but shane would start ahead of liam kearns anyday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:57:32 PM
I'm taking the piss course he should start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 04, 2011, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:57:32 PM
I'm taking the piss course he should start

From a selfish point of view I'd have preferred it if our lads had taken more time out.  Anyone know if any of the other Loughgiel players have had call up's ?  Martin Sullion, Barney McAuley ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on March 04, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
Conor Liam and Darren are clearly better hurlers!!
Clearly not if shane has came on and scored several points each time, think hes being used as an impact sub atm but dont see why , In my opinion hes a better hurler than the three of them. Carsons big and strong under high ball , which i can see why hes on full forward , but shane would start ahead of liam kearns anyday
I was wondering this too. Asked my clubmate who tells me mcnaughton hasnt been turning up to training. There has to be some reason as hes a good hurler.  obviously we dont know the full story.  I know he played for cushendall last weekend when all the other club men were at county training?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 04, 2011, 06:40:22 PM
There could be any number of reasons -

Maybe he hasnt been training, as someone alluded to

Maybe Dinny wants to look at fringe players to see if they are able to offer anything later in the summer in the championship.

Maybe he is carrying an injury.

Dinny doesn't give a good f**k about the league.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on March 04, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
Conor Liam and Darren are clearly better hurlers!!
Clearly not if shane has came on and scored several points each time, think hes being used as an impact sub atm but dont see why , In my opinion hes a better hurler than the three of them. Carsons big and strong under high ball , which i can see why hes on full forward , but shane would start ahead of liam kearns anyday
I was wondering this too. Asked my clubmate who tells me mcnaughton hasnt been turning up to training. There has to be some reason as hes a good hurler.  obviously we dont know the full story.  I know he played for cushendall last weekend when all the other club men were at county training?

Aye your club mate may be right its an other mc naughton as far as i knw that hasnt been to many of the hurling trainings ....
He played for the club on Saturday yes as he hasnt been getting the hurling he would of liked but the county training was on the sunday morning in armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 04, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 04, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
04 March 2011
Antrim Squad to face Laois
Saturday 5th March 2011
NATIONAL HURLING LEAGUE ROUND 3


1. Christopher O Connell

2. Neil McAuley
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Aaron Graffin

5. Kevin McKeague
6. Michael Herron
7. Ciaran Herron

8. Karl Stewart
9. Colm McFall

10. Neil McManus
11. Eddie McCloskey
12. Simon McCrory

13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. Liam Kearns


16. Sean Hawes
17. Shane McNaughton
18. Thomas McCann
19. James Black
20. James McCouaig
21. Matthew Donnelly
22. Christopher McGuinness
23. Johnny Campbell
24. Kevin Molloy

There are injuries to some players including Karl McKeegan, Michael Armstrong, Barry McFall and PJ O'Connell.
Did our county secretary learn how to spell and complete the transfer form properly?  SEAN HAWES!!!!!!  or is it Sean 'HAMES!!!!! P O'C.  Why are all the Loughgiel lads not back yet? Johhny Campbell = on the bench!  I don't belive it!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 04, 2011, 06:59:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2011, 09:57:45 PM
Full on WUM's here!!
Just telling as it is MR2 !!!!  the best way, in my book, but some may have difficulty with that?  I don't!!!

Who did the Gall's beat in the Ulster Hurling League?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on March 04, 2011, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on March 04, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on March 04, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2011, 01:13:20 PM
Conor Liam and Darren are clearly better hurlers!!
Clearly not if shane has came on and scored several points each time, think hes being used as an impact sub atm but dont see why , In my opinion hes a better hurler than the three of them. Carsons big and strong under high ball , which i can see why hes on full forward , but shane would start ahead of liam kearns anyday
I was wondering this too. Asked my clubmate who tells me mcnaughton hasnt been turning up to training. There has to be some reason as hes a good hurler.  obviously we dont know the full story.  I know he played for cushendall last weekend when all the other club men were at county training?

Aye your club mate may be right its an other mc naughton as far as i knw that hasnt been to many of the hurling trainings ....
He played for the club on Saturday yes as he hasnt been getting the hurling he would of liked but the county training was on the sunday morning in armoy

Your 100% correct General.  The McNaughton that hasn't been training is Paddy, from Cushendall too although he's only 19 - Not Shane who some people are thinking it is.

Shane not being selected again baffles me.  He has come on against Kerry and Clare and made a noticeable difference.  What's the problem with starting him?  In the programme against Clare, there was an article that quoted Dinny saying that he disagreed with people saying he didn't care about the national league.  Currently it seems that he doesn't give a monkeys. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2011, 10:08:49 AM
I know Liam Kearns, he's a good lad. He's not good enough for the senior panel though. I would have liked the LG players to have sat this one out. Purely selfish motives of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
10-10 at HT with Laois. It was looking bleak there for a while when Laois went 5 up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 03:39:05 PM
Shane McNaughton on now, also Johnny Campbell playing from the start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
Eddie McCloskey sent off, straight red after a deliberate strike on a player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
Eddie McCloskey sent off, straight red after a deliberate strike on a player
That was stupid. Not looking good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2011, 03:59:59 PM
3 behind going into the final moments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:09:43 PM
Laois 0-20 Antrim 0-16 FT

Bad result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Gave them a six point lead at start of match but level by half time, seems Neil McManus scored nearly all the scores. He's some player all the same and can't do it on his own.

Though difficult when a man down away from home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Gave them a six point lead at start of match but level by half time, seems Neil McManus scored nearly all the scores. He's some player all the same and can't do it on his own.

Though difficult when a man down away from home.

The other forwards could do with stepping up, in fairness out of McManus's total of 0-13, 0-2 was from play, frees still have to be put over though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
That's true Minder, but was listening to the game on the radio and he was on the ball a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 05, 2011, 08:17:37 PM
Carson is not fulfilling his full forward role by all accounts.  Great display by McManus, but a poor result all the same!  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on March 06, 2011, 02:44:47 AM
A county hurler should be quick to deal with the quicker pace, which carson is not. If he used his size to his avantage then it would be fine, but in truth he is also poor under a high ball also. I understand that dinny is trying to find new players to build on the team from last year, but we need results too.

That division is very close in the standard from strongest to poorest. There are no games which would be easy for any team in that league. We need to get a few results soon. Kerry result was very good, and unlucky against clare.

 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 06, 2011, 03:11:56 AM
How do we need results? Limerick and Clare will be in the DIv2 final......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 06, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 06, 2011, 03:11:56 AM
How do we need results? Limerick and Clare will be in the DIv2 final......

Results are good for championship buzz, March now, people should be busting a gut for places
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on March 06, 2011, 12:45:25 PM
How don't we need results. We are mid table after 3 games, with everyone below us having a game in hand and we are 2 points ahead of bottom of the table. If we put away these teams now it will take the pressure off us for the rest of the league. As i said in last post there are no easy games, with each team capable of taking points from each other. Therefore it would definitely be better to get a few results.....and it would have left us competing to get to league final.

Results build confidence within the team. When the chips are down later in year, they believe they have the ability to kill off a game when they need to.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 06, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Any truth that Sambo is taking gortnamona?  Couldnt see it like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 06, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Any truth that Sambo is taking gortnamona?  Couldnt see it like

I hear he's taking them and Ricky McCann taking the pre-season stuff to get them fit. Intermediate this year again and may have a go at it. Will be tough for them as I think this is the most competitive championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 06, 2011, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 06, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Any truth that Sambo is taking gortnamona?  Couldnt see it like

Here he's taking then and Ricky McCann taking the pre-season stuff to get them fit. Intermediate this year again and may have a go at it. Will be tough for them as I think this is the most competitive championship.

Ricky is a Gortnamona handballer though isnt he?

They've had some managers thrown at them in football too.  Mickey Culbert, Brian White and now Sambo in for hurling.  Somebody is doing their work up there.  Think they struggle with a big dual (and drinking) problem though or there must be some other reason because they have been very decent at juvenile level for years :-\

If he does well with the Moaners, division 2 will be very competitive.  Would have to fancy them for intermediate, thought they were senior until i saw the draws
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 06, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
Well, another Moaner with the Moaners then! I think being a drinker, is a prerequisite to play for the Moaners!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 06, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 06, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
Well, another Moaner with the Moaners then! I think being a drinker, is a prerequisite to play for the Moaners!

A bit rich coming from a Rossa man :-) Why do you need to be so harsh on other teams/players/gaels?
Title: Céist
Post by: drici on March 06, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
Antrim man in Athletic Grounds the day was telling us abouit a cracker match yesterday in Casement between Antrim and Offaly in Minor - Leinster League.
Don't see anything on your County site.
What are your other fixtures in the Leinster Minor League?
Are youse having a different team in the Ulster Minor Hurling League as opposed to the team youse are playing in the Leinster League?
Title: http://www.antrimgaa.net/
Post by: drici on March 06, 2011, 11:34:34 PM
Antrim man in Athletic Grounds the day was telling us about a cracker match yesterday in Casement between Antrim and Offaly in Minor - Leinster League.
Don't see anything on your County site.
What are your other fixtures in the Leinster Minor League?
Are youse having a different team in the Ulster Minor Hurling League as opposed to the team youse are playing in the Leinster League?


Agus
'If anyone cant make it to the tyrone game why not make an evening of it in your social club, the game os live on tg4, fancy our chanes v tyrone this time, we keep going forward and they appear to be going backward we have to beat them sooner or later!'


And none of this type of rubbish from your County site either.
Title: Re: Céist
Post by: Last Man on March 07, 2011, 08:40:43 AM
Quote from: drici on March 06, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
Antrim man in Athletic Grounds the day was telling us abouit a cracker match yesterday in Casement between Antrim and Offaly in Minor - Leinster League.
Don't see anything on your County site.
What are your other fixtures in the Leinster Minor League?
Are youse having a different team in the Ulster Minor Hurling League as opposed to the team youse are playing in the Leinster League?
You wouldn't be at the ould sh!t stirrin would ye ;)
A game at full strength Antrim should have easily won but too many many fringe players fielding and out of their depth to be honest and others well out of position. The guy playing in goals normally plays mid field or half fwd FFS. A last minute gather up unfortunately and in fairness Crossey wouldn't know any of these lads and had to run with what he had. Poor start for us but could be pulled round yet.
Title: Seo
Post by: drici on March 07, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
LEINSTER MINOR HURLING LEAGUE 2011
Rd1 (Group 1)
Wexford v Carlow
4.3.2011  Oulart The Ballagh
7.30pm

(Group 1)
Antrim v Offaly
5.3.2011
Casement Park
4.00pm

Rd 2 (Group 1)
Carlow v Antim
12.3.2011
3.00pm

(Group 1)
Offaly v Wexford
12.3.2011
4.00pm

Rd 3 (Group 1)
Wexford v Antrim
19.3.2011
4.00pm

(Group 1)
Carlow v Offaly
19.3.2011
4-00pm

Ulster Minor Hurling League
Division One
Saturday 12th March
Derry v Antrim
12-00 noon   Maghera
John Devlin
Down v Armagh
12-00 noon   Páirc Esler, Newry
Liam Mc Auley

Saturday 19th March
Derry v Down
12-00 noon   Ballinascreen
Colum Cunning
Armagh v Antrim
12-00 noon   Athletic Grounds
James Clarke

Saturday 26th March
Armagh v Derry
12-00 noon   Keady
Colum Cunning
Antrim v Down
2-00pm   Casement Park
John Devlin

Saturday 2nd April
Ulster Minor Hurling League Division 1 Final
12-00 noon   1st Placed Team v 2nd Placed Team 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from the Antrim Website - Antrim's cause became even more difficult when centre-forward Eddie McCloskey, playing in the county colours for the first time this season, received a straight red card in what can only be described as a disgraceful decision. McCloskey won possession about fifty metres from the Laois goal but as he went to fend off a tackle by Laois midfielder Sean Burke he appeared to connect with Burke's helmet. At worst it deserved a yellow card, and even that was highly debatable, but to everyone's amazement match referee Colm Lyons produced a straight red.

Anyone at the game/see the incident?  Apparently Eddie asked the ref why he got sent off and the ref told him he could read it in his report :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
I remember an incident in the OLG match where he looked for the contact and fended a defender off with a hand off to the face. Free was given then.

It is a trait of his to look for the contact first and then to get the shot away.
Not saying thats what happened here just have noticed that about him before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 07, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from the Antrim Website - Antrim's cause became even more difficult when centre-forward Eddie McCloskey, playing in the county colours for the first time this season, received a straight red card in what can only be described as a disgraceful decision. McCloskey won possession about fifty metres from the Laois goal but as he went to fend off a tackle by Laois midfielder Sean Burke he appeared to connect with Burke's helmet. At worst it deserved a yellow card, and even that was highly debatable, but to everyone's amazement match referee Colm Lyons produced a straight red.

Anyone at the game/see the incident?  Apparently Eddie asked the ref why he got sent off and the ref told him he could read it in his report :-\

In other words he hadn't decided yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2011, 02:38:08 PM
Was told by a player that it was harsh. As said, fending off player after catching ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from the Antrim Website - Antrim's cause became even more difficult when centre-forward Eddie McCloskey, playing in the county colours for the first time this season, received a straight red card in what can only be described as a disgraceful decision. McCloskey won possession about fifty metres from the Laois goal but as he went to fend off a tackle by Laois midfielder Sean Burke he appeared to connect with Burke's helmet. At worst it deserved a yellow card, and even that was highly debatable, but to everyone's amazement match referee Colm Lyons produced a straight red.

Irish News report said it was very harsh. Reporter likely to be less biased than the Antrim webmaster.

Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Anyone at the game/see the incident?  Apparently Eddie asked the ref why he got sent off and the ref told him he could read it in his report :-\

That sort of shite sickens my hole. If true, a boy like that shouldn't be refereeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 07, 2011, 07:25:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 07, 2011, 02:36:54 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from the Antrim Website - Antrim's cause became even more difficult when centre-forward Eddie McCloskey, playing in the county colours for the first time this season, received a straight red card in what can only be described as a disgraceful decision. McCloskey won possession about fifty metres from the Laois goal but as he went to fend off a tackle by Laois midfielder Sean Burke he appeared to connect with Burke's helmet. At worst it deserved a yellow card, and even that was highly debatable, but to everyone's amazement match referee Colm Lyons produced a straight red.

Anyone at the game/see the incident?  Apparently Eddie asked the ref why he got sent off and the ref told him he could read it in his report :-\

In other words he hadn't decided yet!
Typical, just like all referees, egotistical shower of boll****'s.  I could think of a few of our own refs in Antrim who would have replied with the same answer. No wonder our refs tend to get frequent low level games, ulster league, Div 3 & Div 4 NHL. Says it all, if you ask me. Maybe they are just not up to the mark!!!  That boll***s we had last year and our clubs current 'whistle blower' dont appear to be up to much either.  A shower of shagg*** wasters.  I think it's time for some new refs blood.  Just a pity I am too old!

As an example!

13.03.2011 (Sun)Allianz Hurling Leagues
Round 4
Roinn 3A
Aughrim 12.45 Cill Maintáin v Doire
Referee Paud O'Dwyer (Ceatharlach)

Páirc Tailteann 12.45 An Mhí v Ard Mhacha
Referee Owen Elliott (Aontroim)
Newbridge 12.45 Cill Dara v Londain
Referee Patrick Murphy (Ceatharlach)

Roinn 3B
Letterkenny 2.30 Dún na nGall v Fingal
Referee Eamon Hasson (Doire)

Tubbercurry 2.30 Sligeach v Muineachán
Referee Eoin Shaughnessy (Gaillimh)

Dowdallshill 2.30 An Lú v Maigh Eo
Dundalk Referee Sean Cleere (Cill Chainnigh)

Ros Comáin Bye

Roinn 4
Liatroim 2.30 South Down v Liatroim
Referee Ciaran Groome (Uíbh Fhailí)

Longford Slashers 2.30 An Longfort v An Cabhán
Referee Jason O Mahoney (Luimneach)

Dungannon 2.30 Tír Eoghain v Fear Manach
Referee Garrett Duffy (Aontroim)

And that bollocks of ours is not even on the list!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 07, 2011, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from the Antrim Website - Antrim's cause became even more difficult when centre-forward Eddie McCloskey, playing in the county colours for the first time this season, received a straight red card in what can only be described as a disgraceful decision. McCloskey won possession about fifty metres from the Laois goal but as he went to fend off a tackle by Laois midfielder Sean Burke he appeared to connect with Burke's helmet. At worst it deserved a yellow card, and even that was highly debatable, but to everyone's amazement match referee Colm Lyons produced a straight red.

Irish News report said it was very harsh. Reporter likely to be less biased than the Antrim webmaster.

Quote from: pdiddy on March 07, 2011, 01:31:50 PM
Anyone at the game/see the incident?  Apparently Eddie asked the ref why he got sent off and the ref told him he could read it in his report :-\

That sort of shite sickens my hole. If true, a boy like that shouldn't be refereeing.
Well said, sam man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 07, 2011, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 06, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 06, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
Well, another Moaner with the Moaners then! I think being a drinker, is a prerequisite to play for the Moaners!

A bit rich coming from a Rossa man :-) Why do you need to be so harsh on other teams/players/gaels?
Well, you are entitled to your opinion.  As am I !!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on March 07, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
You have a serious problem, you really do muinteoiror, looking at yesterdays results Elliott was doing the All Ire Camogie final senior, and Duffy was in Mullingar doing Clare v westmeath? So whats your point, Matthews was in Clones. Why are you having a pop at Referees, Kelly was very poor at the Dublin game I grant you that, Lyons is just a new kid on the block, but hes from Cork he must be good! And your having a pop at Ulster Refs, the southern lads are a just as poor, you should be an assessor, why not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sean Hawes apparently off up to Hannahstown, having been rejected by both Naomh Gall and Rossa and warned off the Johnnies and Gort na Mona.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 07, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on March 07, 2011, 08:18:36 PM
You have a serious problem, you really do muinteoiror, looking at yesterdays results Elliott was doing the All Ire Camogie final senior, and Duffy was in Mullingar doing Clare v westmeath? So whats your point, Matthews was in Clones. Why are you having a pop at Referees, Kelly was very poor at the Dublin game I grant you that, Lyons is just a new kid on the block, but hes from Cork he must be good! And your having a pop at Ulster Refs, the southern lads are a just as poor, you should be an assessor, why not!
So your analysis is, if he is from Cork, he must be good!  And if he is from Antrim, he is not? What does that say about our refs up here!  He (Lyons) is the new kid on the block and is already doing higher profile games!  It does not augur well for the likes of our fellas up here.  I really think our refs up here should all go on 'strike' or just 'chuck' it!!!!! It would seem to be the right thing to do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 07, 2011, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sean Hawes apparently off up to Hannahstown, having been rejected by both Naomh Gall and Rossa and warned off the Johnnies and Gort na Mona.

Ya see, I can't be all that wrong, the 'Johns' and and the 'Moaner's'. Did I not warn you all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2011, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sean Hawes apparently off up to Hannahstown, having been rejected by both Naomh Gall and Rossa and warned off the Johnnies and Gort na Mona.

Who rejected him from Naomh Gall??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2011, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sean Hawes apparently off up to Hannahstown, having been rejected by both Naomh Gall and Rossa and warned off the Johnnies and Gort na Mona.

Who rejected him from Naomh Gall??

Happened on your watch apparently. I read about it here.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 23, 2009, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
I think the first thing a player considers when chosing a club is his own ability. no point joining st galls if you're not going to get on. How many clubs has gallagher played for before joining them just out of interest? I can see where winsam is coming from regarding club loyalty.

Didn't stop some, Mr Kane being one example.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
what about st brigid's, there's bound to be a few backhanders went on to get them to where they are now

Don't think there are any back handers involved with any clubs now. More of a north Armagh thing I always thought.

In Belfast, outsiders will be attracted to Belfast clubs for a number of reasons:

1. How their ability matches the club's ability. Whereas St. John's (in the distant past) and St.Paul's (in the more recent past) would have had quite a few higher profile players, it is now St. Gall's turn. Likewise clubs like Rossa, Lamh Dhearg and St Agnes, who are at various lower stages of the food chain will still get their share of smaller fish. Not that I'm calling big Ronan fat.

2. Friends  / work mates already involved with a particular club.

3. Desire to play at a higher level. This is particularly true of the likes of the Drake brothers, McCrossan etc. who transferred from junior clubs to a senior club.

4. But definitely not, and I'm being serious here, financial inducements.

Luckily milltown row's hurlers are above reproach here. Aren't they? They even turned down a former Clare panellist who offered his services, although something about Eire Og is nagging away at me.

I think the St Gall's and Rossa approaches happened on the same day in the same west Belfast school. Allegedly. I even pointed him in your club's direction first that fateful day. Allegedly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
Can't expect him not to play? Karl mentioned to me last week and made an approach but not sure how that panned out. Obviously the lure of the Dheargers was too much. We don't have a keeper and they do (young Herron i think) But sure.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 08, 2011, 04:47:23 PM
Anyone know the dates for the league fixtures - all divisions?

A request for them to be put up on the county website wasn't even accepted to the guestbook!

Don't mind about the actual fixtures, just the dates (though if you have fixtures that would be great).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 08, 2011, 04:52:31 PM
Still work in progress apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 08, 2011, 05:09:56 PM
Football fixtures have definitely been released - don't think hurling leagues start until early April but should get them soon hopefully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 08, 2011, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2011, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 07, 2011, 08:50:45 PM
Sean Hawes apparently off up to Hannahstown, having been rejected by both Naomh Gall and Rossa and warned off the Johnnies and Gort na Mona.

Who rejected him from Naomh Gall??

Happened on your watch apparently. I read about it here.

Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 23, 2009, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
I think the first thing a player considers when chosing a club is his own ability. no point joining st galls if you're not going to get on. How many clubs has gallagher played for before joining them just out of interest? I can see where winsam is coming from regarding club loyalty.

Didn't stop some, Mr Kane being one example.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
what about st brigid's, there's bound to be a few backhanders went on to get them to where they are now

Don't think there are any back handers involved with any clubs now. More of a north Armagh thing I always thought.

In Belfast, outsiders will be attracted to Belfast clubs for a number of reasons:

1. How their ability matches the club's ability. Whereas St. John's (in the distant past) and St.Paul's (in the more recent past) would have had quite a few higher profile players, it is now St. Gall's turn. Likewise clubs like Rossa, Lamh Dhearg and St Agnes, who are at various lower stages of the food chain will still get their share of smaller fish. Not that I'm calling big Ronan fat.

2. Friends  / work mates already involved with a particular club.

3. Desire to play at a higher level. This is particularly true of the likes of the Drake brothers, McCrossan etc. who transferred from junior clubs to a senior club.

4. But definitely not, and I'm being serious here, financial inducements.

Luckily milltown row's hurlers are above reproach here. Aren't they? They even turned down a former Clare panellist who offered his services, although something about Eire Og is nagging away at me.

I think the St Gall's and Rossa approaches happened on the same day in the same west Belfast school. Allegedly. I even pointed him in your club's direction first that fateful day. Allegedly.
Maybe he was going to outshine a few at Noamh (McGourty)Gall.  Now that would just not do!  Just think of the recriminations!"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 08, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I see on the county website, they are looking for Referee Assessors, so as to improve the standard of Refereeing/Referees!!!!!  I hope they start with some of the incumbent referees in this regard!!   Move over boys, time for some new blood it seems. Anyone putting their name down?????  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 08, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I see on the county website, they are looking for Referee Assessors, so as to improve the standard of Refereeing/Referees!!!!!  I hope they start with some of the incumbent referees in this regard!!   Move over boys, time for some new blood it seems. Anyone putting their name down?????  ::)
Maybe you should?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 09, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 08, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I see on the county website, they are looking for Referee Assessors, so as to improve the standard of Refereeing/Referees!!!!!  I hope they start with some of the incumbent referees in this regard!!   Move over boys, time for some new blood it seems. Anyone putting their name down?????  ::)
Maybe you should?

Yea maybe you should.  You've got the first characteristic - arrogance and up your own hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 09, 2011, 10:40:35 AM
I see St John's have 14 players called up to the County Minor panel.  They must have some Minor Team  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 09, 2011, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 09, 2011, 10:40:35 AM
I see St John's have 14 players called up to the County Minor panel.  They must have some Minor Team  :o

Trials, can't see them all getting a place but I'd say a good few would
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2011, 12:13:14 PM
This is probably the year of that good feile team coming through to minor so I would guess st johns would be favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 09, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2011, 04:52:31 PM
Still work in progress apparently.

Cheers Last Man.

Not sure how they can/why they would release one without the other.

You might be able to work out the fixtures from the football ones...alternate weeks etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on March 09, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
Off topic i know, but - Are clubs fined for not fulfilling ulster league fixtures? Also, reading the '08 entry form, it suggests that clubs are paid 150 for a home/neutral game and 300 for an away game. Is this right or did I pick it up wrong? maybe that was the original idea? maybe somebody in the know can clarify.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 09, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 08, 2011, 08:45:55 PM
I see on the county website, they are looking for Referee Assessors, so as to improve the standard of Refereeing/Referees!!!!!  I hope they start with some of the incumbent referees in this regard!!   Move over boys, time for some new blood it seems. Anyone putting their name down?????  ::)
Maybe you should?
I might just do that  ITG.  I feel I would have something meaningful to offer!

I just phoned the number, says number is unobtainable!!!!  Maybe they just dont want anybody from the GAA Board!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2011, 05:40:37 PM
Don't give up yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 09, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
Is the love affair with the hurling league over?
Dwindling gates show NHL has lost its lustre since glory days of late 90s, writes Colm Keys


Tuesday March 08 2011

Collectively they have more than two thirds of the All-Ireland hurling titles on offer. Between them hurling's trinity of power - Kilkenny, Cork and Tipperary - have been champions in 88 out of 123 championships played.

Their dominance of the National Hurling League has been slightly more understated, but 47 titles from 77 campaigns between them since 1925 still represents a fair haul.

Yet on Sunday at three venues that could be considered the provincial citadels of hurling, less than 11,000 turned up in total to see these counties in action in the Allianz League.

To the cavernous sound of empty terraces at Pairc Ui Chaoimh in Cork, Semple Stadium in Thurles and Nowlan Park in Kilkenny, there were just 10,851 paying customers to watch the home teams grind out victories. All three venues were less than 10pc full.

The figures must be worrying for the GAA, who have put considerable effort into promoting the games this season through a variety of measures. Admission prices have been reduced from €15 to €13, season tickets have been put on offer once again to all of the counties.

But so far the supporters just have not bothered to come out.

There are many smaller factors contributing to the indifference on those terraces and stands. The economic woes clearly are having an impact at the turnstiles and at the petrol pumps. But the same slump is not nearly as evident in the football league.

The live and deferred TV games on TG4 don't help attendances, but again the damage is being felt in hurling more than football, it seems.

The weather hasn't really been an issue. True, as the league campaign heads into March and April attendances do traditionally pick up. But from the current base, an average of less than 4,000 per game, that is not going to be hard to build on.

Put simply, the hurling league has lost its appeal. It's become colourless and mundane -- on the sidelines, in the dressing-rooms and in the stands. So far, 12 Division 1 games have been watched by just over 47,000 spectators.

Dare we say it, the absence of controversy and edgy rivalry is sorely missing from the hurling league these days.

Only two years ago, over 16,000 filed into Nowlan Park for the Cork league match in the week when Rebels captain John Gardiner suggested they might have won more titles had they been organised properly. This apparently went down badly in Kilkenny and the crowds flocked to see retribution being executed. But it was the exception, not the rule.

It's a far cry now from the pioneering days of the same-calendar-year league campaign of the late 1990s, when Limerick and Clare routinely attracted in excess of 20,000, a Limerick versus Tipperary match drew 17,000 and a Kilkenny versus Waterford game had to be delayed by 15 minute to allow a four-mile tailback out the Waterford road to clear.

Hurling was a different landscape then. Clare were in their prime as the reigning All-Ireland champions when the league really hit overdrive in 1998.

Twelve months earlier in 1997, it was played off in the same calendar year for the first time, but the semi-finals and finals were deferred until after the championship and, consequently, it lost momentum.

The buoyancy of Wexford, Limerick, Clare and Offaly back then really drew the crowds, but with the restoration of the old order over the last decade, the figures attending league games and the general interest in it have waned.

Pairc Ui Chaoimh has never traditionally been a magnet for Cork supporters in the league, thus there were just 2,866 supporters for their repeat of the 2010 league final last Sunday.

However, that's more than double the attendance of the Cork/Offaly match at the same venue on the opening day of the league. So just a paltry 4,272 have watched Cork's two home league games.

Nowlan Park isn't much better, drawing 5,471 to the Cork game two weeks ago but just over 3,000 last weekend for the visit of Wexford.

Tipperary's home matches have been faring a little better but not much -- certainly not reflecting their status as All-Ireland champions.

All three of their games have been played under lights, but in their two home matches, they drew 9,465 for the opening night against Kilkenny and just 4,947 last weekend against Waterford.

Former Tipperary manager Liam Sheedy made the point on RTE's 'League Sunday' that hurling just wasn't a game for lights and that attendances may be reflecting that.

It's a widely held view among hurling people. But that doesn't reconcile with the crowds that flooded into the same Semple Stadium last September to watch the locals deliver an exhibition and add the All-Ireland U-21 title to the senior title claimed just six days earlier.

Admittedly, the place was full of jubilant Tipperary supporters on a high after ending Kilkenny's five-in-a-row aspirations.

They would have travelled to a darkened Semple Stadium that night in honour of their next generation.

Tipperary's PRO Ger Ryan points out that 6,500 attended the Tipperary/Waterford game 12 months ago when it was played in Semple Stadium on a Sunday afternoon.

That represents a decrease of over 25pc to this year.

"Our board haven't discussed this collectively, but privately there would be a feeling that Sunday would be better for attendances," said Ryan.

"It must be remembered that our packages are geared towards families and there may be a reluctance for families to travel on cold Saturday nights."

Putting the start date back to March may be a consideration, something that could be accommodated more if the competition returns to two Division 1 groups.

But for now the love affair with league hurling is over -- the light has flickered out.

- Colm Keys

Irish Independent


Is the fact that the nation is skint not have anything to do with it, or has Croke park no understanding of what hard times are for  the ordinary common 5/8s?  Dose the fact that the Irish government screwed the people not come into the equation either?  Pure economics, if you ask me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:00:54 PM
Quote from: scamroc on March 09, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
Off topic i know, but - Are clubs fined for not fulfilling ulster league fixtures? Also, reading the '08 entry form, it suggests that clubs are paid 150 for a home/neutral game and 300 for an away game. Is this right or did I pick it up wrong? maybe that was the original idea? maybe somebody in the know can clarify.

Not sure of the actual amount but that sounds about right. Its to help with travelling costs for the club, money is usually given at the end of a season. I've never seen any of this money and would be out a few pounds in diesel over the years :o :o :o :o

But sure i'm not complaining
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 10, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2011, 08:00:54 PM
Quote from: scamroc on March 09, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
Off topic i know, but - Are clubs fined for not fulfilling ulster league fixtures? Also, reading the '08 entry form, it suggests that clubs are paid 150 for a home/neutral game and 300 for an away game. Is this right or did I pick it up wrong? maybe that was the original idea? maybe somebody in the know can clarify.

Not sure of the actual amount but that sounds about right. Its to help with travelling costs for the club, money is usually given at the end of a season. I've never seen any of this money and would be out a few pounds in diesel over the years :o :o :o :o

But sure i'm not complaining

I think you need to fulfill all your fixtures to get any of the money or something along those lines.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 10, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
Dont think there has been any money on offering since the first year of it, at least non has been forth coming to the clubs if it has been available since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 10, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
Eddie McCloskey's appeal rejected according to the Club Aontroim twitter page
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: trasna man on March 10, 2011, 12:22:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
Dont think there has been any money on offering since the first year of it, at least non has been forth coming to the clubs if it has been available since.
Clubs that fulfill all their games receive E500.00 at the end of the competition.Reduced from last year, excess money goes to Ulster under age coaching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 10, 2011, 12:29:35 PM
Think we got a lot more than €500 last year but as they introduced entry fees for the first time this year, i'd imagine the money will be coming to an end - they have probably lost whatever grant funding they had available for hurling promotion at adult level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 10, 2011, 06:11:02 PM
So Casement is getting a 40,000 all seater stadium.  Discuss...
Title: Ceatharlach
Post by: drici on March 10, 2011, 06:39:10 PM
03-07-10
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McManus hits top form in Saffrons' stirring fightback

Antrim 2-18 Carlow 3-12

Carlow left Casement Park a stunned bunch of players after losing this qualifier game to Antrim by three points on Saturday.

The visitors seemed to be coasting to victory for most of an entertaining game, but a late flourish by the Saffrons pulled the game out of the fire.

The eventual winners went ahead after just 18 seconds but didn't lead again until the 69th minute, when midfielder Karl Stewart hit a long-range point.

Karl McKeegan hit another within 60 seconds and impressive substitute Eddie McCloskey polished off the opposition with a third point two minutes into injury-time. It was rough justice on a brave Carlow side that hurled with passion and poise throughout, but wilted in the face of Antrim's closing surge.

After McKeegan rifled over that first Antrim point, Carlow took control with a storming defensive and attacking performance. The gifted Craig Doyle fired in a goal on four minutes, sending the rebound to the net after Chris O'Connell had batted out a first effort from the forward.

It was 1-2 to 0-3 after 13 minutes when deadly Doyle struck again with another shock goal and Paudie Kehoe added to Carlow's tally with a pointed free.

Referee Anthony Stapleton didn't endear himself to the home supporters with controversial decisions and he heaped more trouble on his head when he ruled out what looked a perfect goal when a sideline puck by Shane McNaughton was turned into the Carlow net by Neil McManus.

Despite the green flag being raised, the referee disallowed the score as he reckoned that McManus was in the square before the sliotar.

Antrim failed to score from the 12th until the 26th minute as the visitors added three more points from Mark Brennan, Doyle and HP Byrne.

But despite some clever attacking play, Carlow didn't raise another flag before the interval as Antrim hit back for a point from Liam Watson plus three points from McManus -- from play, a free and a '65' -- to leave Carlow ahead 2-6 to 0-7 at half-time.

Four minutes after the restart, the visitors struck again with a Kehoe goal but when Watson was fouled in the square, the Loughgiel man rattled the net from the penalty spot to leave it 3-6 to 1-9 on 43 minutes.

The game then turned into a battle of the bravest, with the Antrim attackers finding gaps in the opposing defence with some searing runs by McManus and PJ O'Connell fired a loose ball to the net for the second home goal in the 50th minute.

But when Shane McNaughton fired over frees it was all square six minutes later at 3-9 to 2-12. And it was level again in the 65th and the 68th minutes before that killer trio of Antrim points put the home side through to the next round.

Scorers -- Antrim: N McManus 0-5 (0-2 '65', 0-1f), K McKeegan 0-4, L Watson 1-1 (1-0 pen), S McNaughton (0-1f), K Stewart 0-3 each, PJ O'Connell 1-0, S McCrory, E McCloskey 0-1 each.
Carlow: C Doyle 2-3, P Kehoe 1-6, (0-2 '65', 0-4f), R Coady (0-1f), M Brennan, HP Byrne 0-1 each.

ANTRIM -- C O'Connell 6; Kieran McGourty 6, C Donnelly 7, S Delargy 7; P Shiels 5, J Campbell 5, C Herron 6; S McNaughton 7, K Stewart 7; C McFall 5, N McManus 7, T McCann 5; PJ O'Connell 6, L Watson 6, K McKeegan 8. Subs: S McCrory 6 for C McFall (30), B McFall 5 McCann (48), E M Closkey 6 PJ O'Connell (66).

CARLOW -- F Foley 6; A Corcoran 6, S Kavanagh 7, D Shaw 7; E Coady 5, E Nolan 6, R Coady 7; J Hickey 5, D Byrne 5; C Doyle 8, M Brennan 6, HP O'Brien 7; A Gaule 6, D Murphy 7, P Kehoe 7. Subs: J Rogers 6 for Hickey (30), R Foley 6 for Murphy (h-t), E Byrne for 6 (40), A McDonald 6 for D Byrne (46).

REF -- A Stapleton (Laois).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Memories!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Memories!!!!!
That  boyo Brian Gavin is refereeing the match on Sunday.  Not what you would call a friend of Antrim, and also getting fatter and slower by the day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 10, 2011, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Memories!!!!!

You're trying too hard on this board
Title: http://www.carlowpeople.ie/sport/hurling/late-free-sinks-carlow-in-antrim-207527
Post by: drici on March 10, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
Late free sinks Carlow in Antrim

ANTRIM 1-11 CARLOW 2-07

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Carlow's Eddie Byrne gathers the ball ahead of Aaron Graffin and Neil McManus during the game in Casement Park on Sunday.

By LEO McGOUGH


Tuesday February 23 2010

WHEN you lose an important match by a solitary point the tendency is to focus on the one's that got away, every missed opportunity haunting the vanquished. In the wake of Carlow's heartbreaking first round NHL Division 2 defeat in Casement Park, Belfast we too will analyse the 'what ifs' of a hard fought contest but first let's focus on the positives.

Top of that list would have to be the visitors second goal, as good a team score as the red, yellow and green have ever concocted.

It came fourteen minutes into the second half when trailing by three points, Craig Doyle won possession on half way, close to the stand wing side-line.

'Styler' delivered a long ball down on the Andersonstown Road end posts where Damien Roberts caught the dropping ball on the 20m line. 'Lester' quickly slipped a handpass to the supporting Andrew Gaul to his left and the 'Duke', in turn, hand-passed across goal to the lurking Paudie Kehoe who first timed to the net from the edge of the small square.

Considering a tentative Carlow had trailed 1-4 to 0-1 after 13 minutes and looked set for a bit of a hiding, that goal which levelled proceedings with 20 minutes to go was just reward for the brave manner in which the visitors battled their way back into contention.

Carlow finished the 'hour' with 12 wides, exactly half of which came from placed balls, Paudie Kehoe wayward with three mid-distance frees, Shane Kavanagh winging a long range effort the wrong side of the posts while Mark Brennan and Damien Roberts, from either wing, saw well cut line-balls sail tantalizingly over the end-line.

Hasty shooting accounted for five of the six wides from play while Carlow's only non-shot wide arose when an Eddie Byrne hand-pass to Paudie Kehoe might have yielded a goal only for the heavy sod to the bounce out of the sliotar which rolled over the endline.

That was in the 6th minute of the second half, a minute later Paudie Kehoe saw his overhead flick on a Craig Doyle cross canon off the upright low down.

While admittedly that was a half-chance, the same could be said of Antrim's lone goal, a 12th minute major that bolstered the home county's early dominance.

Unsure first touch on the stand side conceded a 45m line-ball that Neil McManus cut immaculately into the goalmouth, where a ground schemozzle at the far post ended with the sliotar somehow trickling over the line.

That goal supplemented a brace of early points from Neil McManus (a superb long range strike from play) and Shane McNaughton while McManus had also converted a 65. Carlow's lone reply had been an excellent Mark Brennan point from the left wing after Eddie Byrne had fashioned the opening but when within a minute of the goal McNaughton rifled over a sweet point to put the Glensmen 1-4 to 0-1 clear Carlow looked in big trouble.

However Andrew Gaul, in the 15th minute, turned a Mark Brennan hand-pass into a 40m right wing point, his delightful strike off the stick without handling; then Gaul and Byrne won a brace of 45m frees that Paudie Kehoe pointed the margin was down to three.

Carlow survived a double scare in the 23rd minute, captain Eddie Coady preventing an almost certain 'goal' with a crucial intercept and within seconds Craig Doyle got in a vital hook to baulk another shot.

Five minutes later the Carlow backs crowded out the impressive Neil McManus after a loose defensive pass had created the danger though Simon McCrory popped over a point from the resultant short clearance.

With the electronic scoreboard flashing 35 minutes, Carlow won a free on their own 65 which centre half back Eoin Nolan landed down on Antrim square, the sliotar breaking slightly to the right of goal from where Craig Doyle, that opportunist supreme, rattled the net with a rising first time pull.

Liam Watson, in stoppage time, pointed a close range free to give the hosts a 1-6 to 1-4 interval advantage.

Those hopes rose considerably when Paudie Kehoe's well-worked 49th minute goal levelled proceedings, that after he had opened the second half scoring with a point from a 50m free only to see Simon McCrory and Liam Watson (a smashing point from a narrow angle) tack on Antrim scores.

If Carlow could have had two goals in those early second half exchanges, it must be conceded that so too could Antrim, Dessie Shaw taking a rolling ball off the line in the 44rd minute, then getting in an important block when his clearance returned.

Though Carlow's goal tied the sides, Antrim, from the puck-out, won a 60m free that Neil McManus slotted, then Liam Watson from close range restored put the hosts two-up. Great work by Colin Hughes set up Andrew Gaul for a lovely left hand point before the sides were level for the second time in the 63rd minute, the 'Duke' winning a free that Shane Kavanagh, from half way, close to the side-line, arrowed straight between the posts.

It was helter-skelter from there to the finish, Damien Robert's line-cut for the lead drifting wide of the far post, Neil McManus putting an Antrim free wide before a Simon McCrory shot that looked to be dipping over the bar was brought down by Carlow goalkeeper David Miley. Just as a draw was being accepted all round as a fair result Carlow full-back Shane Kavanagh was blown for charging as he attempted to clear from the 20m line. The resultant free in front of the posts was tapped over by Liam Watson. Two minutes of normal time and a further minutes injury time was played but the valiant visitors were unable to get within striking distance of the opposition posts.

- LEO McGOUGH

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 12, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Any local Ulster matches going on today in Belfast?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 12, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 10, 2011, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Memories!!!!!

You're trying too hard on this board
And a lot of people listen to you!!!!!! :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 12, 2011, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 12, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 10, 2011, 09:22:14 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 10, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
What's that post for?
Memories!!!!!

You're trying too hard on this board
And a lot of people listen to you!!!!!! :-\

Uh-oh he played the 'you're not popular card', i'm hurt - truely.  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 12, 2011, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 12, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
I'm in team 4father. I still reckon yer man is from Loch gCaol.

Cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2011, 11:47:46 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 12, 2011, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 12, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
I'm in team 4father. I still reckon yer man is from Loch gCaol.

Cheers!  ;D

It is a beautiful place to be from after all.   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 13, 2011, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 12, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
I'm in team 4father. I still reckon yer man is from Loch gCaol.
Wrong again, duh!!!!!  However, it would not be so bad to be associated with a successful club such as Loch gCaol.  Armagh Cuhallions, I ask you!!!!!  Wouldn't be great to be as successful as Keady though!  By the way, you may not look like Shane Magown, but you certainly talk a lot of cr** just like him!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 13, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 12, 2011, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 12, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
I'm in team 4father. I still reckon yer man is from Loch gCaol.

Cheers!  ;D
If your a 'Johns' man, you sure would have to have a good memory.  "it's well I do remember" !!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
Worst game ever!! conditions not helping. Point each after 22 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
Any updates MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 13, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
from BBC

Antrim 0-10 1-6 Carlow 

Neil McManus struck the winning point with two minutes left as the Saffrons edged out Carlow in Sunday's Allianz NFL Division two game at Casement Park.

Paudie Kehoe netted after 30 minutes in a tight first half which ended with Carlow 1-4 to 0-4 ahead.

Antrim fought back early in second half with points from Michael Herron, Karl Stewart and Simon McCrory pointed.

The Ulster side drew level before McManus fired over his fifth point to secure a narrow win.

Kehoe's long free found its way into the net after the ball was fumbled by an Antrim player.

A scuffle broke out between the teams at half-time but order was soon restored.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 13, 2011, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
Worst game ever!! conditions not helping. Point each after 22 mins
The weather conditions were diabolical in the first half and both teams really struggled with the ball.  A lot of ball scrambling and players slipping which was only to be expected.  Although, with the ball in the hand, ball striking by both teams was poor.  I dare say the ball would not have been that heavy!

Apparently, Dinny gave the lads a roasting at half time?  They seemed a bit more alert in the second half, and the weather conditions did improve a little.  A fairly spirited display by the lads as they tagged back the deficit.  Overall though, a poor performance by both teams.  But hey, hurling in such weather does not lend itself to good hurling!

A little surprised by some of the players who started, team selection a little strange IMO.  Karl Stewart and Hippy on the line for first half.  Carson still to prove himself under a dropping ball, you would expect a man of his size to be a little more gritty and prominent!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Crap game and playing conditions were bad enough (but not that f**king bad!). Easy clause to disguise some amount of poor hurling. It doesn't disguise f**king about with stupid passes around the half back line. It doesn't disguise how we were fought off every ball by a Carlow team with a bit of fight and hunger. It doesn't disguise how our forward line couldn't win a ball if you drilled it up their holes.

We were very lucky and very shite today.

To quote a big, lanky Cushendall man as Antrim came out of the changing rooms:

"Did yis get new hurls today? Have yis been fcukin shown how to use them?"

It was bad.

Agree with every word hardstation, that was dire today and embarrassing if I'm honest. I'm really not joking here but I'd have done a better job that some of the lads on today!! The big lad Carson came on and was dung but he wasn't on his own. Wanted Shane playing from the start these last few weeks, he started today and only for him being sub'd i didn't know he was on!!! (I'm not Dall bashing here BTW)

Dropping balls into the back of the net is a crime and we did it today. Some great play by Carlow but they couldn't punish our bad play. I believe their senior clubs play in the Kilkenny leagues so they were not to be taken lightly. I know Karl had a serious head cold so that's why he didn't start. Glad he came on.

But we have seen this before (last season) and managed to produce great game or two in the championship so i'll hold judgement till then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 14, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
Still concerned by this lack of respect for the NHL, why do we treat it with disdain when it is a perfect training ground for our established and some of the emerging players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 14, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
Leagues are for playing and bleeding a few players, (especially at this time of year)  Championships are for winning!!!!!  I would not get too excited just yet people.  Atrocious conditions, damp and cold.  Granted they pissed about a lot, made crucial and fundemental errors, but hey it is only early March and they have another win under their belt.  Carlow have aways been a sticky wicket for Antrim. But we really shoud not judge performances of hurling in such bad weather conditions.  A win is a win is a win, (which they fought hard for in the end)!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on March 14, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
It certainly is good to get the points. We have been on the wrong side of tights games in the past. could be worse.Carlow played in a bad game and lost. At least we won. Keeps us away from the bottom of the table.

There has to be some common ground between bringing new players in and aiming for promotion. I agree that the Championships are for winning but it wouldnt do any harm to go into those games with confidence after being promoted.

I think theres a good opportunity in Leinster this year. Will be close game with Laois, with the winner playing a Wexford team which aren't any better than anyone in division 2. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2011, 08:34:27 AM
Have we been winning any championships lately?

Time for a rethink as to how we do things starting with the approach to the league. Look at the progress Dublin have made (yes I know bigger resources) but they started with taking the NHL seriously and used it as a building block, no one is now suprised when they beat one of the big boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 15, 2011, 09:41:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2011, 08:34:27 AM
Have we been winning any championships lately?

Time for a rethink as to how we do things starting with the approach to the league. Look at the progress Dublin have made (yes I know bigger resources) but they started with taking the NHL seriously and used it as a building block, no one is now suprised when they beat one of the big boys.

Couldn't agree more.  Combination needed of a few things to make the break through that Dublin have made. 

1. Need for full time GAA employees needed for an urban project similar to that of Dublin's.  (Something silly like 40 full time staff dedicated to developing hurling alone in Dublin - i think we have one maybe two in the entire county).

2. In Belfast, there are only ever a small bunch of clubs who are giving it a lash at one time.  Rossa, St Johns and always one other.  At the minute, that other is probably St Enda's, before it was GNM who have now faded away at juvenile level.  We need all of the clubs to get serious about hurling.

3. We need a to be patient!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2011, 10:22:59 AM
There is an Urban strategy for Belfast and there is a full time paid official working in the Springfield Rd area specifically.

I agree this is not enough, but what we have isnt producing enough either whether that is true lack of management or whatever it needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:45:56 AM
Will I in my life time see Antrim back in an All Ireland? (with the current format)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 15, 2011, 10:49:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:45:56 AM
Will I in my life time see Antrim back in an All Ireland? (with the current format)


What age are you?   ;D

IMO the backdoor system has actually helped the hurling powers to maintain their stranglehold on the All Irelands.

Many's a year you could catch one of them cold early in the championship and that would be that, now they can regroup through the backdoor to eventually win out.
You could also add to that the fact that now a lot of the first round games aren't full pelt as lesser teams aren't too concerned about the provincial championships and are happy with a good run in the qualifiers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2011, 10:52:35 AM
Well not in the current format and we all know the barriers that exist and espeicially now in these times of hardship for everyone, getting posts and demanding money for hurling isnt top priority.

But if we could get a structure in place making Belfast a special case and really working on the development of the game within the city then we would have a chance of following Dublin at least up into the next bracket of top teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 15, 2011, 10:49:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:45:56 AM
Will I in my life time see Antrim back in an All Ireland? (with the current format)


What age are you?   ;D

IMO the backdoor system has actually helped the hurling powers to maintain their stranglehold on the All Irelands.

Many's a year you could catch one of them cold early in the championship and that would be that, now they can regroup through the backdoor to eventually win out.
You could also add to that the fact that now a lot of the first round games aren't full pelt as lesser teams aren't too concerned about the provincial championships and are happy with a good run in the qualifiers!

Younger than you and getting younger by the day!! (season round the corner again ;))

yeah i believe that the hurling powers have only got better, i would like to see for a couple of seasons a Knockout draw. Home fixtures till the semi finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 15, 2011, 11:34:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2011, 08:34:27 AM
Have we been winning any championships lately?

Time for a rethink as to how we do things starting with the approach to the league. Look at the progress Dublin have made (yes I know bigger resources) but they started with taking the NHL seriously and used it as a building block, no one is now suprised when they beat one of the big boys.

Were the leagues not taken alot more serious under the last few management teams and they didn't get too far in the Championship either?  Dublin have bigger resources, more senior level club teams and a hell of alot more players to pick a panel from.  I just can't see our boys having the will to go flat out from season start to end.  Its all half arsed until a week or two before Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:45:56 AM
Will I in my life time see Antrim back in an All Ireland? (with the current format)
Funny I was thinking about this the other week and the fact that 20+ years on Antrim are further away from the top table than ever. As johnney says there is a chance of an upset every year in the Championship but inevitably these experienced counties are able to regroup and rarely get caught cold twice.

It has been talked about on here forever about a straight knockout post-provincial championships or a Champions League style affair with seeded groups of 4. The Munster Championship seems to have protected status so it is unlikely to change anytime soon. Until one of these come to fruition Antrim will be feeding off scraps well after you're in a box!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
>:( >:( >:(
Tut, tut, tut. Lads, lads, lads.! You still have all to understand, many in our county will always treat hurling as secondary. Many in Ulster will always treat hurling as secondary and an inconvenience!  Many in Belfast, Antrim and Ulster will treat hurling even worse that that. 1st Soccer, 2. Gaelic football (Celtic, Rangers, Man U, Liverpool and all that oul crap).  So you see.  It is going to take a lot more that just recruiting  and employing hurling development officers etc. in the urban settings.  Hurling is dying on it's feet if the truth be told!  Croke Park to some extent also would have to be questioned on what they are doing to keep hurling alive.  I am of the opinion that they treat hurling as a secondary and the poor cousin of Gaelic football.

So you see, it is easy to post on here and frequently criticise how poor our hurlers performed last Sunday.  I was just delighted that we won the game, got the points, overcame one of our nemesis teams (Carlow)!  At least in Antrim we are still playing the game and keeping it marginally alive also in this province!  What strategy has the Ulster Council, Croke Park and the County Executive in place to protect and promote hurling?  There in lies the question in my humble opinion.  In the end, we would also have to ask, what are we also doing? i.e. GAA Board contributors to the Antrim Hurling thread?  I think we should all just take a moment to think before we launch into a tirade of abuse towards Dinny, his back room team and the players on the perfomance last Sunday.  Are they not in fact, doing their level best to keep the game alive?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 15, 2011, 09:41:43 PM
Do you take /coach or help out with any hurling teams within your club?  In my own club - its increasingly difficult to get mentors for hurling.  Plenty claim to be hurling 'men' but who aren't putting their shoulder to the wheel at all at all.

I actually agree with you that its in danger of dying.  We are in a county that is making reasonable progress in football.

We need a hurling strategy from Croke Park for Belfast on the same basis that exists in Dublin.  Full time hurling development staff need to be employed - not just one urban officer and hurling development officer, there's no point in having one or two - say none of them are any good?  In Dublin there was and is a hurling development strategy in place funded by the GAA, supported by development officers and it is working.  Ulster council and even Antrim council aren't serious enough about it and neither are the majority of clubs.  Antrim needs Belfast teams to be strong and we are a long way off that.  Look at juvenile levels in Belfast - there are two teams every year and the rest are struggling to get numbers out.  No love or passion for it from clubs anymore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
>:( >:( >:(
Tut, tut, tut. Lads, lads, lads.! You still have all to understand, many in our county will always treat hurling as secondary. Many in Ulster will always treat hurling as secondary and an inconvenience!  Many in Belfast, Antrim and Ulster will treat hurling even worse that that. 1st Soccer, 2. Gaelic football (Celtic, Rangers, Man U, Liverpool and all that oul crap).  So you see.  It is going to take a lot more that just recruiting  and employing hurling development officers etc. in the urban settings.  Hurling is dying on it's feet if the truth be told!  Croke Park to some extent also would have to be questioned on what they are doing to keep hurling alive.  I am of the opinion that they treat hurling as a secondary and the poor cousin of Gaelic football.

So you see, it is easy to post on here and frequently criticise how poor our hurlers performed last Sunday.  I was just delighted that we won the game, got the points, overcame one of our nemesis teams (Carlow)!  At least in Antrim we are still playing the game and keeping it marginally alive also in this province!  What strategy has the Ulster Council, Croke Park and the County Executive in place to protect and promote hurling?  There in lies the question in my humble opinion.  In the end, we would also have to ask, what are we also doing? i.e. GAA Board contributors to the Antrim Hurling thread?  I think we should all just take a moment to think before we launch into a tirade of abuse towards Dinny, his back room team and the players on the perfomance last Sunday.  Are they not in fact, doing their level best to keep the game alive?

No triade of abuse here, Dinny is great at getting them ready for championship, but us having a view as to playing division 1 for a few years would best prepare you for taking on the best in the championship when it matters, is Ok surely??. Just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
The mask has slipped, just slightly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 15, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 15, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
The mask has slipped, just slightly.

Yip!   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2011, 08:35:51 AM
No abuse of Dinny or the players on here, we are allowed opinions on how he is using the NHL which we freely express.

I also think you'll find that if you took a vote of how many board members on here who post are also heavily involved in coaching and club work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 07:33:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 15, 2011, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
>:( >:( >:(
Tut, tut, tut. Lads, lads, lads.! You still have all to understand, many in our county will always treat hurling as secondary. Many in Ulster will always treat hurling as secondary and an inconvenience!  Many in Belfast, Antrim and Ulster will treat hurling even worse that that. 1st Soccer, 2. Gaelic football (Celtic, Rangers, Man U, Liverpool and all that oul crap).  So you see.  It is going to take a lot more that just recruiting  and employing hurling development officers etc. in the urban settings.  Hurling is dying on it's feet if the truth be told!  Croke Park to some extent also would have to be questioned on what they are doing to keep hurling alive.  I am of the opinion that they treat hurling as a secondary and the poor cousin of Gaelic football.

So you see, it is easy to post on here and frequently criticise how poor our hurlers performed last Sunday.  I was just delighted that we won the game, got the points, overcame one of our nemesis teams (Carlow)!  At least in Antrim we are still playing the game and keeping it marginally alive also in this province!  What strategy has the Ulster Council, Croke Park and the County Executive in place to protect and promote hurling?  There in lies the question in my humble opinion.  In the end, we would also have to ask, what are we also doing? i.e. GAA Board contributors to the Antrim Hurling thread?  I think we should all just take a moment to think before we launch into a tirade of abuse towards Dinny, his back room team and the players on the perfomance last Sunday.  Are they not in fact, doing their level best to keep the game alive?

No triade of abuse here, Dinny is great at getting them ready for championship, but us having a view as to playing division 1 for a few years would best prepare you for taking on the best in the championship when it matters, is Ok surely??. Just a thought
Could not agree more MR2 with most aspects of your analysis. I was a little dubious about Dinny coming back, but I must say, I feel he brings new thinking to the table in terms of bleeding the youngs fellas in the League.  When are they ever going to get playing otherwise??  In the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 15, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
The mask has slipped, just slightly.
Why because I submit an intelligent and  factaul analysis??  I have done the coaching thing/management thing and I am still involved in hurling, so much so that I am passionate about hurling, and that I have come to dislike gaelic football.  Hurling is dying in this county with the exception of our good north antrim teams.  However, hurlings survival, development and growth is not and will not occour by beligerent contribution of posters on the GAA Board - Antrim Hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
This Board or posters will never harm the development of county hurling or at grass roots level. Many have a view as to what they see best on how they see things locally (on this thread) and nationally (on the other threads) should be tackled. It has no real bearing on things and gives like minded people a chance to discuss the going on's within their club/county/games during the season.

Some outsiders looking in or by hearsay may feel this board and others (Hoganstand being the worst discussion board about) causes harm, I've yet to see it. Anything I say here I've no problem saying in public. Am I always right? Maybe not but I'm willing to listen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2011, 08:35:51 AM
No abuse of Dinny or the players on here, we are allowed opinions on how he is using the NHL which we freely express.

I also think you'll find that if you took a vote of how many board members on here who post are also heavily involved in coaching and club work.
Lets have the vote then.  If contributors were really honest, I think you would find minimal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
This Board or posters will never harm the development of county hurling or at grass roots level. Many have a view as to what they see best on how they see things locally (on this thread) and nationally (on the other threads) should be tackled. It has no real bearing on things and gives like minded people a chance to discuss the going on's within their club/county/games during the season.

Some outsiders looking in or by hearsay may feel this board and others (Hoganstand being the worst discussion board about) causes harm, I've yet to see it. Anything I say here I've no problem saying in public. Am I always right? Maybe not but I'm willing to listen.
A well thought out but a leading synopsis.  I have said all I have said in public also, which I would not apologise for.  As I have said previously, lets be open and frank!!  I would be interested to know what constitutes an 'OUTSIDER' ?  Someone who has a different point of view that the general run of things on the Antrim Hurling thread?  Or is it people from specific clubs??  Or maybe, those who have a dislike of other clubs for whatever reason?  I know who you are MR2, and I for one would not question your bone fides.  But like myself, getting a little old, too many war wounds, but still passionate and have lots to offer!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Others in my view are people either looking in and not contributing to the discussion or people who listen to posts second hand (from friends) and make an attack without maybe reading into it properly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 16, 2011, 08:27:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Others in my view are people either looking in and not contributing to the discussion or people who listen to posts second hand (from friends) and make an attack without maybe reading into it properly
Please answer me this MR2.  Why after taking you lads to an All Ireland Int. Final, did you not stay on this year and build on last years achievement?  Against all the odds in Noamh Gall (football bound) you took your hurlers so far and then walked away?  Was another year of the hard work going to be difficilt for you personally, or did you feel you could only committ to a certain point with this team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
Family, work and other commitments, I came back and managed them for the last 6 games in the league last year, so didn't really walk away!! Taking a senior team within a club is hard work if you do it right, stick on top of that the success of our footballers and the co commitments of these dual players at senior (I've mentioned senior but all the hurlers play football) I think it was a great achievement by these lads to get to Croke Park.

Personally I feel I get on with everyone within the team/panel. would we have seen eye to eye? not all the times but I'm happy with that. I've never always seen eye to eye with my past managers also, that's healthy in my view. Impossible to keep everyone happy and I'm not exactly diplomatic in saying what I feel needs said and have no qualms in saying or acting on it.

Playing in the senior championship need a team to build towards a target. That can't be done while you have the situation we have. I'd say in 5 years we will be able to build a team that will hopefully start to work towards making another attempt at making a senior final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
Leagues fast approaching.  For a lot of clubs, the league is more important that championship.

St Johns look like they are going to be the struggling Division 1 team.  Who will be in the dogfight with them?

Rossa need to finally give Division 2 a proper go and if they are serious about the amount of development they have done in the last few years, they need to be in Division 1 but i still fancy Ballycastle to go up.  Is it one up still?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2011, 02:01:29 PM
One up, and the games will be a lot tighter than you think 4father. Ballycastle will not get it all their own way. Gortnamona have Sambo looking after them. Rossa should always be pushing teams like Ballycastle, Glenarrife and St Johns. Clooney Gaels will not let teams get it easy also and should Ballycastle workout how to get find their pitch they will certainly get a game at it.

We are in transition at the minute, some good kids coming through and we will be blooding them throughout the year.

Ballycastle will drop points, will they drop enough for the other teams to be promoted? let ya know in August
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 21, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
Leagues fast approaching.  For a lot of clubs, the league is more important that championship.

St Johns look like they are going to be the struggling Division 1 team.  Who will be in the dogfight with them?

Rossa need to finally give Division 2 a proper go and if they are serious about the amount of development they have done in the last few years, they need to be in Division 1 but i still fancy Ballycastle to go up.  Is it one up still?
Still too early for Rossa.  Our lads are a few years behind in the development phase, as I can see it.  I would not be expecting too much from them at this early stage!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
Had a look at our fixtures for the coming season, the first game is at home against Rossa!! So straight into it head on.

Noticed one with Ballycastle on a Wed night up there (shakes heads, several times) who makes these things up??

no easy fixtures really.

But my first game is against Larne, division 4 :o senior playing days over >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on March 21, 2011, 10:02:03 PM
Are the hurling fixtures finally out? Where are they?   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2011, 10:16:48 PM
Only have ours, Games co-ordinator sent them to me, but they are out your club sec should have them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
I have them all on a PDF file, if you want to send me your email address through a private message I can send them on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 22, 2011, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
I have them all on a PDF file, if you want to send me your email address through a private message I can send them on.
That offer seems to go against your grain and personality! Amazing!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz once again muinteoirmor - you're about as popular on here as a Hutu would be at a Tutsi wedding.

To the 3 who sent me your email addresses, i didn't realise i had the private messages - just sent them to the email addresses.  Sorry about the delay.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on March 22, 2011, 06:00:09 PM
Thanks 4father. Off to re-negotiate a honeymoon now!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 22, 2011, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 21, 2011, 10:26:24 PM
I have them all on a PDF file, if you want to send me your email address through a private message I can send them on.

4father would you please send them to me via PM. Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 22, 2011, 11:26:42 PM
CHB, i'd need your email address mate.  This does not allow you to attach a file and it is a PDF file.  Send your email address and ill get them off to you.

Scamroc - good luck with that!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 22, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
centrehalfback@googlemail.com

cheers 4f.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 22, 2011, 11:39:42 PM
Sent!  G'nite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 22, 2011, 11:48:23 PM
Thanks boss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz once again muinteoirmor - you're about as popular on here as a Hutu would be at a Tutsi wedding.

To the 3 who sent me your email addresses, i didn't realise i had the private messages - just sent them to the email addresses.  Sorry about the delay.
Only three!!! You are real popular I can tell!!!!  ;D  Maybe it's you who is trying too hard.  Ya see the bottom line is, I could not give a ****! And therein lies the fundamental difference!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 23, 2011, 02:48:36 PM
Many clubs in diffs with referees? Hear a few including ourselves will be losing home fixtures this season. Was talking to a guy in Tipp a month ago and they had 70 prospective new refs looking to train between ages 18 and 60 such is the money crisis down there. Hard to understand why we struggle considering things arent much better round these parts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2011, 03:17:08 PM
That be alright, Ya's beat us at home last year after us beating you's at Hightown!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 05:57:32 PM
I see the county is running a couple of golf classics over the next few months.  Do any of you fellas play the wee white ball game?  (Maybe the eye sight and co-ordination is not what it once was!)  Are any of you entering a team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 06:07:00 PM
extract from County webstite!!!!!!

Name : Johnnies Man  22 March 2011 Just wondering when the county will be doing up Corrigan, for NFL games for Casement gets it's make over! Well done to all concerned again. Exceptional effort for all involved, foresight, vision and good governance, what we're all about as Gaels. Aontroim Abu


County's response!
"The county" wont be doing up any ground, nor has there been any decision where any games would be played when Casement is unavailable.


Maybe the money they raise at their up and coming boxing event will help them 'do up Corrigan'  - F***ing amazing, did ya ever hear the like of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 23, 2011, 06:56:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2011, 03:17:08 PM
That be alright, Ya's beat us at home last year after us beating you's at Hightown!!!
Ah the sweet taste of revenge Mr.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 23, 2011, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 05:57:32 PM
I see the county is running a couple of golf classics over the next few months.  Do any of you fellas play the wee white ball game?  (Maybe the eye sight and co-ordination is not what it once was!)  Are any of you entering a team?
Sorry I have plenty of more interesting things to do with my life than saunter around a big garden in my lemon pullover and tartan slacks. Go help out with some juvenile teams instead. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 23, 2011, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz once again muinteoirmor - you're about as popular on here as a Hutu would be at a Tutsi wedding.

To the 3 who sent me your email addresses, i didn't realise i had the private messages - just sent them to the email addresses.  Sorry about the delay.
Only three!!! You are real popular I can tell!!!! 

It had probably more to do with maybe that only 3 wanted or needed them.   :-\

Good luck with being a boring **** - not that you need anymore help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2011, 12:14:15 PM
ACHL Division 1 Fixtures 2011
Round 1 Sun 10th April
Dunloy v Ballygaglet
St Johns v Portaferry
Glenariffe v Loughgiel
Ballycran v Cushendall

Round 2 Sun 24th Apr
Dunloy v Loughgiel
Portaferry v Cushendall
Ballygaglet v Ballycran
St Johns v Glenariffe

Round 3 Sun 8th May
Portaferry v Dunloy
Loughgiel v Ballygaglet
Cushendall v St Johns
Ballycran v Glenariffe

Round 4 Sun 15th May
Cushendall v Dunloy
Ballycran v Loughgiel
Glenariffe v Portaferry
St. Johns v Ballygalget

Round 5 Sun 22nd May
Wed 18th Dunloy v St. Johns
Glenariffe v Ballygalget
Ballycran v Portaferry
Cushendall v Loughgiel

Round 6 Sun 5th June
Dunloy v Ballycran
Cushendall v Glenariffe
Loughgiel v St Johns
Portaferry v Ballygaglet

Round 7 Sun 12th June
Glenariffe v Dunloy
St Johns v Ballycran
Ballygaglet v Cushendall
Portaferry v Loughgiel

Round 8 Sun 19th June
St Johns v Dunloy
Ballygaglet v Glenariffe
Portaferry v Ballycran
Loughgiel v Cushendall

 
Round 9 Sun 10th July
Ballycran v Dunloy
Glenariffe v Cushendall
St Johns v Loughgiel
Ballygaglet v Portaferry

Round 10 Wed 13th July
Dunloy v Cushendall
Loughgiel v Ballycran
Portaferry v Glenariffe
Ballygaglet v St. Johns

Round 11 Sun 17th July
Loughgiel v Dunloy
Cushendall v Portaferry
Ballycran v Ballygaglet
Glenariffe v St. Johns

Round 12 Sat 30th July
Ballygalget v Dunloy
Portaferry v St Johns
Loughgiel v Glenariffe
Cushendall v Ballycran

Round 13 Wed 3rd Aug
Dunloy v Portaferry
Ballygalget v Loughgiel
St. Johns v Cushendall
Glenariffe v Ballycran

Round 14 Sat 13th Aug
Dunloy v Glenariffe
Ballycran v St Johns
Cushendall v Ballygaglet
Loughgiel v Portaferry


Sunday games will be Reserve start at 2.00pm and Senior at 3.30pm
Saturday games will be Reserve start at 5.00pm and Senior at 6.30pm
Wednesday games will be Reserve start at 6.45pm and Senior at 8.00pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on March 24, 2011, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: 4father on March 23, 2011, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: múinteoirmór on March 23, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
Quote from: 4father on March 22, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz once again muinteoirmor - you're about as popular on here as a Hutu would be at a Tutsi wedding.

To the 3 who sent me your email addresses, i didn't realise i had the private messages - just sent them to the email addresses.  Sorry about the delay.
Only three!!! You are real popular I can tell!!!! 

It had probably more to do with maybe that only 3 wanted or needed them.   :-\

Good luck with being a boring **** - not that you need anymore help

Thanks for the info 4father. also good post above.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 25, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
Thanks for the list JC.


Ballycan to travel to us on Wednesday 13th July and us to Ballygalget on Wednesday 3rd August  >:( - WTF !!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 25, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 25, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
Thanks for the list JC.


Ballycan to travel to us on Wednesday 13th July and us to Ballygalget on Wednesday 3rd August  >:( - WTF !!!!
Can't think of a worse job than compiling fixtures , no matter what you do you can never please everyone, hopefully Joe antrim will be open to a bit of tweaking for this type of situation, as long as clubs don't rip the hole out of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 25, 2011, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 25, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on March 25, 2011, 10:53:42 AM
Thanks for the list JC.


Ballycan to travel to us on Wednesday 13th July and us to Ballygalget on Wednesday 3rd August  >:( - WTF !!!!
Can't think of a worse job than compiling fixtures , no matter what you do you can never please everyone, hopefully Joe antrim will be open to a bit of tweaking for this type of situation, as long as clubs don't rip the hole out of it.

Agree with your sentiment.  However, of the 6 Wednesday night games involving Co Down teams 5 of these are against North Antrim opposition  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 25, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
Team for Sundays game

Good to see shane back in midfield where he was steady last year with a few younger players getting starts as well

. Sean Hawes

2. Kevin Molloy
3. Stephen Shannon
4. Kieran McGourty

5. Aaron Graffin
6. Michael Herron
7. James McCouaig

8. Shane McNaughton
9. Simon McCrory

10. Michael Armstrong
11. Karl Stewart
12. Neil McManus

13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. Barry McFall


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 25, 2011, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 25, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
Team for Sundays game

Good to see shane back in midfield where he was steady last year with a few younger players getting starts as well

. Sean Hawes

2. Kevin Molloy
3. Stephen Shannon
4. Kieran McGourty

5. Aaron Graffin
6. Michael Herron
7. James McCouaig

8. Shane McNaughton
9. Simon McCrory

10. Michael Armstrong
11. Karl Stewart
12. Neil McManus

13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. Barry McFall

Yes glad Shane's no longer a bit part man, worth his place all day. Also good to see Molloy included, a great prospect and can play defence through to mid field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2011, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 25, 2011, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 25, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
Team for Sundays game

Good to see shane back in midfield where he was steady last year with a few younger players getting starts as well

. Sean Hawes

2. Kevin Molloy
3. Stephen Shannon
4. Kieran McGourty

5. Aaron Graffin
6. Michael Herron
7. James McCouaig

8. Shane McNaughton
9. Simon McCrory

10. Michael Armstrong
11. Karl Stewart
12. Neil McManus

13. Darren Hamill
14. Conor Carson
15. Barry McFall

Yes glad Shane's no longer a bit part man, worth his place all day. Also good to see Molloy included, a great prospect and can play defence through to mid field

I fairness he was rubbish against Carlow, though not on his own that dreadful day, Possibly a better position out field for him. Stewarty has played well the last few games from midfield. CHF is a frustrating position, the ball sometimes avoids you there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 26, 2011, 08:35:58 AM
Not sure I would say the ball avoids you there it's more a case of breaking/ disrupting thereby creating opportunity for the other forwards, a dirty job but somebodys got to do it. Karl,s more agresssive style would be more suited than Shano's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 27, 2011, 09:05:38 AM
A good win for the shamrocks yesterday.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2011, 01:25:30 PM
What was the score? ULH I presume?
Title: Aontroim
Post by: drici on March 27, 2011, 03:00:10 PM
Two goals for Conor Carson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 27, 2011, 03:33:36 PM
Westmeath 1-5 Antrim 2-2    :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 27, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2011, 01:25:30 PM
What was the score? ULH I presume?
Yep, UHL. Won by 5 points in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 27, 2011, 03:41:05 PM
WM 1-7 Ant 2-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on March 27, 2011, 05:12:13 PM
Antrim win.

2.13 to 2.09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on March 27, 2011, 11:19:51 PM
What is everyones predictions for each championship this year? Looks like intermediate is going to be the hardest to predict with a few teams in with a shout
Senior-Cushendall
Intermediate-Clooney Gaels, Gort na mona
Junior-Glenravel
U21-Ballycastle
Minor A-St Johns
Minor B-Rossa, Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on March 28, 2011, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on March 27, 2011, 11:19:51 PM
What is everyones predictions for each championship this year? Looks like intermediate is going to be the hardest to predict with a few teams in with a shout
Senior-Cushendall
Intermediate-Clooney Gaels, Gort na mona
Junior-Glenravel
U21-Ballycastle
Minor A-St Johns
Minor B-Rossa, Glenarm

Senior - Cushendall
Intermediate - Gonna give Randalstown a shout
Junior - havent a clue
U21 - Loughguile
Minor - havent a clue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 28, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Any match reports from the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
From county site. Couple of poachers goals from CC

A strong finish which saw them hit six unanswered points earned Antrim hurlers a four point victory over Westmeath in Sunday's Allianz National hurling League Division 2 game with at Cussack Park, Mullingar.
When Westmeath corner-forward Dan Carthy fired in a goal to put his team 2-9 to 2-7 ahead thirteen minutes from time it appeared that the Saffrons were going to be punished for a sloppy second-half performance. However they dug deep and three points from Neil McManus, and one apiece from Shane McNaughton, James Black and Karl Stewart secured the victory and kept their slim promotion hopes alive.
It has to be said that Westmeath didn't help their own cause by having two men sent off during the final ten minutes, one for a second yellow and the other a straight red, and in truth if the Midlanders had maintained their full contingent then Antrim would have been hard pushed to get the win.
Antrim have been notoriously slow starters through this league campaign and today was no exception, something not surely helped by the fact that they took to the field for the first time just three minutes before throw-in. (They did their warm up at a nearby club).
Westmeath took an early two point lead as their excellent centre-back Andy Mitchell converted two fine long range frees and it was twelve minutes before Karl Stewart opened the Saffrons' account with a well taken point from play. 
Things began to happen in the sixteenth minute when full-forward Conor Carson flicked a long free by Karl Stewart to the Westmeath net, though the home side hit back with a Dan Carthy point. With Micko Herron playing brilliantly at centre-back the Antrim chances began to materialise and a Neill McManus point, followed by a second Carson goal put Antrim four clear.
However just when it appeared they were gaining control of the game they lost their way again and Westmeath responded with two Andrew Mitchell points and a goal from Dan Carthy to draw level at the break.
                                                                        FINE SPELL
Carthy put Westmeath back in front with a pointed free early in the second-half, but Antrim came back and produced a fine spell of hurling which brought some very good points from Shane McNaughton, Neil McManus (2) and Karl Stewart to pull three clear. However the handful of Antrim fans never got the chance to relax as the Saffrons again lost their way and points from Andy Price and Dan Carthy, followed by a fine solo goal from Cathy, put them two points in front with thirteen minutes left to play. 
Antrim were in a spot of trouble, but to their credit they found a response and quick points from McManus and McNaughton had them level inside two minutes. Westmeath then shot themselves in the foot as they had two players sent off inside three minutes and they were heavenly punished as late points from McManus, James Black and Karl Stewart sealed the Antrim win.
ANTRIM – Sean Hawes, Kiearn McGourty, Stephen Shannon, Kevin Molloy, Arran Graffin, Michael Herron, James McCouaig, Simon McCrory, Shane McNaughton, Neil McManus, Karl Stewart, Michael Armstrong, Darren Hamill, Conor Carson, Barry McFall.
SUBS – James Black for McFall, Paul Shiels for Armstrong, Chris McGuinness for Hamill.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 28, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Any match reports from the weekend?

Loughgiel with a very understrength side (no JCampbell, N McGarry, Skinner, Winker & a few more) totally overran us in the second half after us going 7 points up at a stage in the first and went onto win by 5. All too easy for them in the second half as our composure and workrate went awol. It's only March but from my side of the field it was not nice to look at. We're better than that.

Quite striking that cdalls players are doing the bulk of the score taking at intercounty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2011, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 28, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Any match reports from the weekend?

Loughgiel with a very understrength side (no JCampbell, N McGarry, Skinner, Winker & a few more) totally overran us in the second half after us going 7 points up at a stage in the first and went onto win by 5. All too easy for them in the second half as our composure and workrate went awol. It's only March but from my side of the field it was not nice to look at. We're better than that.

Quite striking that cdalls players are doing the bulk of the score taking at intercounty

Here's hoping they save some for later in the yr  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on March 28, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 28, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Any match reports from the weekend?

Loughgiel with a very understrength side (no JCampbell, N McGarry, Skinner, Winker & a few more) totally overran us in the second half after us going 7 points up at a stage in the first and went onto win by 5. All too easy for them in the second half as our composure and workrate went awol. It's only March but from my side of the field it was not nice to look at. We're better than that.

Quite striking that cdalls players are doing the bulk of the score taking at intercounty

I didn't get to the match Skull.  Were you missing any/many ?  I think our plan has been to play as many U21's as possible with a few seniors added in.  I hear we have a couple of promising U21's back in the fold which is good as we'll need them all come championship time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 28, 2011, 11:33:59 AM
Any match reports from the weekend?

Loughgiel with a very understrength side (no JCampbell, N McGarry, Skinner, Winker & a few more) totally overran us in the second half after us going 7 points up at a stage in the first and went onto win by 5. All too easy for them in the second half as our composure and workrate went awol. It's only March but from my side of the field it was not nice to look at. We're better than that.

Quite striking that cdalls players are doing the bulk of the score taking at intercounty

And a Galls man ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2011, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
And a Galls man ;)

Yeah ...whatever  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Couldn't be arsed setting up another thread but will paste this on the other Antrim thread as well.


In recent years how many County players would you think that playing for the County looks better on their CV than being committed to the cause of bringing Antrim forward?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2011, 10:45:37 PM
I'd be of the opinion that alot of players kindof sleep walk into it. Others may disagree.

We just haven't nailled the proper commitment thing when you get to County level. Some want to make things happen whilst some just seem to enjoy the ride (stay in the hotel sat night, play sunday  ;) )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Team for Down game.

1.Christopher O Connell

2. Aaron Graffin
3. Kieran McGourty
4. Kevin Molloy

5. Neil McAuley
6. Michael Herron
7. James McCouaig

8. Simon McCrory
9. Shane McNaughton

10. Paul Shiels
11. Karl Stewart
12. Eddie McCloskey

13. Christopher McGuinness
14. Neil McManus
15. Barry McFall

16. Sean Hawes
17. Michael Armstrong
18. Thomas McCann
19. James Black
20. Colm McFall
21, Matthew Donnelly
22. Karl McKeegan
23. Conor Carson
24. Stephen Shannon
25. Liam Kearns
26. Conor McCann
27. Darren Hamill
28. Ciaran Herron
29. Kevin McKeague
30 Cormac Donnelly
31. PJ O Connell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2011, 11:08:17 PM
Could come a cropper here, Down have been scoring well have got off to great starts in their last few games, beat Antrim not long ago down there. Come Championship we will win but at this stage in our season I think we may well get beat.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
Interesting to see McGourty at FB. MR2 - what's your reading of that? (as opposed to the corner)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 01, 2011, 09:29:20 AM
Has Sambo taken up politics?

Saw him standing outside the gates of Stormont last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 01, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
Interesting to see McGourty at FB. MR2 - what's your reading of that? (as opposed to the corner)

Magic's been hurling well for them too.  Could be a position they try to target with alot of ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 01, 2011, 04:05:51 PM
Dinny continues to baffle, firstly he puts McGourty in at full back against an in form, far bigger magic. Then when he plays Carson with no joy with plenty of criticism on here, he finally gets a couple of scores, a bit of confidence and gets dropped. Neil won't play FF in the championship so theres no point playing him there now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 01, 2011, 04:24:47 PM
Paul Braniff was Full Forward for Down last week & is a far more consistent & bigger threat to Antrim. A super hurler when fully fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2011, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 01, 2011, 09:29:20 AM
Has Sambo taken up politics?

Saw him standing outside the gates of Stormont last night.
He was waiting for a fight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
Interesting to see McGourty at FB. MR2 - what's your reading of that? (as opposed to the corner)

McGourty is an excellent fullback, played fullback for the club last season and for most parts didn't give his player a puck of the ball the whole game. Played full back after ten minutes against Loughgiel in the Championship and never give Dim Dim the ball (i know that not much)

That won't be the beating of us. Just playing Down in the league at their home pitch is the reason why i think we will get beat, Casement in the summer is different. As for Carson Colonel i would say if Cushendall had their full team out he would struggle to get on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 02, 2011, 02:36:20 PM
Not now his dad is there MR!! But I think its strange that when he finally gets a couple of scores then he's dropped/rested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2011, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 02, 2011, 02:36:20 PM
Not now his dad is there MR!! But I think its strange that when he finally gets a couple of scores then he's dropped/rested.

Yes i agree with you on that point (nepotism)

But did you watch him against Carlow? not great. Club level he'll be grand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 03, 2011, 07:24:21 PM
From BBC website:

Neil McManus bagged a hat-trick as the Saffrons won the Allianz NHL Division Two derby at Ballycran.

Karl Stewart was first to hit the net for Antrim before a brace from McManus, which included a penalty.

Antrim's Eddie McCloskey and Eoin Clarke of Down were sent-off as the visitors led 3-4 to 0-5 at the break.

McManus and Stewart netted again before Paul Braniff fired in Down's goal, while Mourne player Fintan Conway was dismissed late on.

McManus picked himself up after being hauled down to convert the penalty.

McCloskey and Clarke received straight red cards after being involved in an incident before half-time.

The win takes Antrim up to third on eight points while Down are four back in seventh.

Antrim: C O'Connell, A Graffin, Kieran McGourty, K Molloy, N McAuley, M Herron, J McCouaig, S McCrory, S McNaughton, P Shiels, K Stewart, E McCloskey, C McGuinness, N McManus, Barry McFall. Subs: S Hawes, M Armstrong, T McCann, J Black, C McFall, M Donnelly, K McKeegan, C Carson, S Shannon, L Kearns, C McCann, D Hamill, C Herron, K McKeague, C Donnelly, PJ O'Connell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 04, 2011, 06:24:02 PM
I have been saying that all along. He should struggle to make cushendall team if the team is picked fairly. Time will tell.

It would have been nice to make a league final this year. Some good results along the way in a very close league (in regards standard).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: ruairi on April 04, 2011, 06:24:02 PM
I have been saying that all along. He should struggle to make cushendall team if the team is picked fairly. Time will tell.

It would have been nice to make a league final this year. Some good results along the way in a very close league (in regards standard).

I would have thought the league went as expected, bar Laois, who I thought we would have beaten.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 05, 2011, 08:12:22 AM
A bit random the Dall men criticising one of their own. I would have thought given his size and age there is plenty of room for improvement and County hurling could do just that.

Antrim are seriously lacking in ball winning forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: maxpower on April 05, 2011, 08:12:22 AM
A bit random the Dall men criticising one of their own. I would have thought given his size and age there is plenty of room for improvement and County hurling could do just that.

Antrim are seriously lacking in ball winning forwards

Best ball winning forward in the county is a minor hurler in our club, Dominic'The Claw' Delargy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 05, 2011, 12:31:23 PM
yes alot of results went the way I would of hoped but in the past Antrim seem to slip up somewhere along the line against 'weaker opposition'. Realistically no team in that league are much better or worse than Antrim. Its good to see us coming away with the points.

I hate to be critical of Conor. Personality wise he is a good young fella and he doesnt deserve the negativity for being picked to represent his county. I just dont think he is anywhere near the standard that is required at county level. He's an average club hurler. I suppose my negativity should be better directed at Dinny for repeatedly picking him. Anyway, the longer he continues to play probably bring him on a bit, but in my opinion not enough to make him a county hurler. Long may it continue though as it can only help cushendall, improve one of the weaker players on the team last few years.     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2011, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Best ball winning forward in the county is a minor hurler in our club, Dominic'The Claw' Delargy

Why do they call him the claw

Ruari...when you say you believe someone isn't at the standard required for county level are you implying that there are those who are "county standard" but who aren't on the panel? I don't believe you think that, so those who are there at the moment are as good as we have and that includes CC.

My perspective would be the same a max's ...i.e. That Antrim hurling at most levels has a problem with developing forwards of real note. I'd put that down to damage limitation team selections from clubs all the way through juvenile. It needs addressing at juvenile, but I'm not quite sure how at the minute. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: maxpower on April 05, 2011, 08:12:22 AM
A bit random the Dall men criticising one of their own. I would have thought given his size and age there is plenty of room for improvement and County hurling could do just that.

Antrim are seriously lacking in ball winning forwards

Best ball winning forward in the county is a minor hurler in our club, Dominic'The Claw' Delargy

At minor level perhaps, he would need to shift a fair bit of timber if he is going to play senior hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 05, 2011, 02:30:05 PM
The skull1, what I am saying is there are alot more people around the county with alot more potential than him. I would take swap him for any one of Dunloys 6 forwards, Loughiels 6, prob 4 of Glenarriffes etc.......at least they would be quick. I think he is slow off the mark, loses alot of ball. I know that just because someone isnt scoring doesnt mean they are playing bad, if they are breaking ball and setting up scores. I dont think he is doing that effectively. He is extremely poor under a high ball, considering his size.

In the past, a man of that physique could get away with playing county hurling without having too much pace.....since then the overall pace has increased and i think someone like him can be badly exposed by quick and powerful playing. Basically i would pick any one of the other subs ahead of him.

A bit harsh in my synopsis, but since you asked me to elaborate on if thought there were more of county standard out there......i would say there are people with alot more potential. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2011, 02:50:45 PM
Fair enough....I haven't seen him play enough but though he was doing rightly in the NHL from the odd report I'd read

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 05, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
He never played bad on purpose for cushendall so you can't be too negative on the lad, but how he is representing Antrim is beyond me.

I suppose now i have got that rant off my chest i can relax again. What's the chances of getting a big turnout for the Limerick game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 05, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: ruairi on April 05, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
He never played bad on purpose for cushendall so you can't be too negative on the lad, but how he is representing Antrim is beyond me. I suppose now i have got that rant off my chest i can relax again. What's the chances of getting a big turnout for the Limerick game?

I think Dinny's having a bit of a change of approach to the whole set up this year.  I know there were a few of last years U21s he spoke to (CC being one) about stepping up to the seniors this year because, and I quote "a fella of your size could do alot at senior".  So far I think three of them have started a game, one went to England and theres a few other ones who were alot smaller but are part of the panel now too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 04:01:13 PM
He is called the Claw due to his catching ability, he was christened this by Eion Kelly(tipp) once he was up a few moons ago...

Quote from: TheGeneral on Today at 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: maxpower on Today at 08:12:22 AM
A bit random the Dall men criticising one of their own. I would have thought given his size and age there is plenty of room for improvement and County hurling could do just that.

Antrim are seriously lacking in ball winning forwards


Best ball winning forward in the county is a minor hurler in our club, Dominic'The Claw' Delargy


At minor level perhaps, he would need to shift a fair bit of timber if he is going to play senior hurling.

Hes been hurling senior a brave bit now . tbh the man or should i say boy is 6.4 and is a brave lump to say the least, but what he lacks in speed he makes up for in sheer strength and accuracy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 05, 2011, 04:06:53 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 04:01:13 PM
tbh the man or should i say boy is 6.4 and is a brave lump to say the least, but what he lacks in speed he makes up for in sheer strength and accuracy.

Aye, he shoots daggers from his eyes, fireballs from his arse and he uses his k**b as a hurl
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2011, 08:41:33 PM
Some of you boys are being awful harsh on Carson.

How many years has he been playing senior? He's only U21. When your key assets are power and drive you will take longer to adapt from underage to senior than you will as a more skilful / mobile player.

As a minor he was an exceptional player though when I saw him he did play further back the field. As a prospect I think he's worth a look at definitely. Dinny seems to take looks at players round that age though sometimes he puts them in a bit early - e.g. Quinn from Dunloy. However the league is the place to give them a chance.

It's been a long time since we've had a good target man at full forward. Since Ciaran Barr days really and since then the only real one has been Carson's da. We need to look at what we can here as we've been badly missing a target man. We were playing a full back there a few years ago after all.

Would agree forward development is a problem. We have a squad littered with good center half backs - McManus, McKeegan, Graffin, McAuley, Campbell - yet have to play probably our best one McManus up in the forwards. Just like the 90s and Gary O'Kane all over again.(Cushendall generally have to play him there too I know)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2011, 08:41:33 PM
Some of you boys are being awful harsh on Carson.

How many years has he been playing senior? He's only U21. When your key assets are power and drive you will take longer to adapt from underage to senior than you will as a more skilful / mobile player.

As a minor he was an exceptional player though when I saw him he did play further back the field. As a prospect I think he's worth a look at definitely. Dinny seems to take looks at players round that age though sometimes he puts them in a bit early - e.g. Quinn from Dunloy. However the league is the place to give them a chance.

It's been a long time since we've had a good target man at full forward. Since Ciaran Barr days really and since then the only real one has been Carson's da. We need to look at what we can here as we've been badly missing a target man. We were playing a full back there a few years ago after all.

Would agree forward development is a problem. We have a squad littered with good center half backs - McManus, McKeegan, Graffin, McAuley, Campbell - yet have to play probably our best one McManus up in the forwards. Just like the 90s and Gary O'Kane all over again.(Cushendall generally have to play him there too I know)

Not harsh, just making judgements on what i have seen. As for his da, his best playing position was RHF. Look I'm all for big lads on the team, you only have to look and teams like the Cats, Cork, Tipp, and Offaly. They were always littered with big mobile players who have/had great touches and skill. Height/strength wise we have McManus who falls into that bracket, we'd need about 4/5 more players of his ilk to be more competitive.

I'll hold judgement then for a few years imtommygun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
MR his clubmate was the main person being harsh rather than yourself...

Yeah out the field we have strength/height but in and around the FF line we traditionally have lacked it and balls that go in come back out far too much and far too handy. Maybe he isn't good enough - jury still out -  but in my view worth a try as we are very limited with FF options and Dinny uses the league to t**ker. I *hope* it's why Laois beat us though time will tell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2011, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
MR his clubmate was the main person being harsh rather than yourself...

Yeah out the field we have strength/height but in and around the FF line we traditionally have lacked it and balls that go in come back out far too much and far too handy. Maybe he isn't good enough - jury still out -  but in my view worth a try as we are very limited with FF options and Dinny uses the league to t**ker. I *hope* it's why Laois beat us though time will tell.

Laois game just didn't happen, apparently we just didn't turn up. Listened to the match on the radio and to be fair there were times in that match we could have went on to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2011, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on April 05, 2011, 04:01:13 PM
He is called the Claw due to his catching ability

No shit sherlock  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 06, 2011, 12:54:51 AM
Alright, do you want me to apologise. Im sorry if i was harsh on the poor fella, but he has been on the panel since 2006....we can wait another 5 or 6 years and see if he develops.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 06, 2011, 01:50:15 PM
Surely its a good thing for a yoong player like Conor Carson to get exposure to playing with, and against, better players? It can only improve a young player and that surely is to the benefit of his club as well. Of course the flip side is being thrown in at the deep end of inter-county hurling when your not ready for it can have a detrimental affect on a player. I think its fairer holding off judgement on a player at county level until hes been around the scene for a year or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Team 1          Score    Score   
   
Lamh Dhearg   4-10   1-17   Rossa      
Tir na og           0-13   3-16   Ballycastle   
Clooney Gaels   1-12   2-9   Carey Faughs      
Shane O Neills   1-12   2-10   Gort Na Mona   

Thought the Castle would have won by more, Lamhs off to a flyer beating Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on April 06, 2011, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Team 1          Score    Score   
   
Lamh Dhearg   4-10   1-17   Rossa      
Tir na og           0-13   3-16   Ballycastle   
Clooney Gaels   1-12   2-9   Carey Faughs      
Shane O Neills   1-12   2-10   Gort Na Mona   

Thought the Castle would have won by more, Lamhs off to a flyer beating Rossa

Great result for Lamh Dhearg. Also good result for Gort na Mona, usually bad travellers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on April 06, 2011, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Team 1          Score    Score   
   
Lamh Dhearg   4-10   1-17   Rossa      
Tir na og           0-13   3-16   Ballycastle   
Clooney Gaels   1-12   2-9   Carey Faughs      
Shane O Neills   1-12   2-10   Gort Na Mona   

Thought the Castle would have won by more, Lamhs off to a flyer beating Rossa

Great result for Lamh Dhearg. Also good result for Gort na Mona, usually bad travellers

You on the wind up?? Travelling camp beside  the pitch ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on April 06, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on April 06, 2011, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Antrim Div 2 Hurling

Team 1          Score    Score   
   
Lamh Dhearg   4-10   1-17   Rossa      
Tir na og           0-13   3-16   Ballycastle   
Clooney Gaels   1-12   2-9   Carey Faughs      
Shane O Neills   1-12   2-10   Gort Na Mona   

Thought the Castle would have won by more, Lamhs off to a flyer beating Rossa

Great result for Lamh Dhearg. Also good result for Gort na Mona, usually bad travellers

You on the wind up?? Travelling camp beside  the pitch ;D ;D
:D Very nice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 08, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
A big day for Dunloy!!!

From St. Finbarr's to Dunloy

The GAA can confirm that media launches for the 2011 GAA Football and Hurling All-Ireland Senior Championships will be held next month when two more of the Association's progressive clubs help host the events.

The Football launch will take place in St. Finbarr's GAA Club in Cork on May 4.

A week later on May 11, Cuchullains Dunloy, Co. Antrim take centre stage when they host the Hurling Championship event.

For the second year running, the Association's flagship championship unveilings take place at Clubs as part of the ongoing commitment to elevate the profile and work of our Club units across the Country.

Uachtarán Chumann Lúthchleas Gael Criostóir Ó Cuana will attend both events and players from all four Provinces in both codes will also be present to mark the occasion.

The GAA President said: "Our launches in Tralee and Ballyboden last year were very well received and we are delighted to be returning to two more progressive clubs next month as part of our ongoing efforts to showcase everything that is good about our clubs and the massive community based work they do through the promotion of our games and activities.

"These media events are amongst the highest profile we organise and the decision to hold them in the excellent facilities as offered by these club units, creates a tangible link between the highest level of our games and the all important club scene which produces and nurtures the top talents in both football and hurling who captivate massive audiences on memorable Croke Park summer days."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
Sad state of affairs when Senior Referees in Antrim have refused already to referee St Johns this year in Hurling, they're saying they are just tired and feed up with all the Bull**** and hassle with players and mentors at every game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
Haven't heard this before, Honestly??

We play Rossa today and our county players are playing Derry at Casement???? Gallagher, Healy both senior hurlers will miss the game!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2011, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
Sad state of affairs when Senior Referees in Antrim have refused already to referee St Johns this year in Hurling, they're saying they are just tired and feed up with all the Bull**** and hassle with players and mentors at every game.
Sure, hasn't this been going on for years up there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 10, 2011, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2011, 01:39:55 PM
Haven't heard this before, Honestly??

We play Rossa today and our county players are playing Derry at Casement???? Gallagher, Healy both senior hurlers will miss the game!!

Milltown - you seemed to do rightly without them!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
Beat Rossa today and in all my years, that was the worst Rossa side I've ever seen!!

We were not at full strength abut we managed to convert our chances when they came our way.

Castle hammered Carey today. 1-17 to 1-3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 11, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
No suprise results over the weekend at all then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2011, 06:30:54 PM
Another good win the Shamrocks.   :)


Antrim vs Limerick at Loughgiel this Sunday at 2.30pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 11, 2011, 07:42:44 PM
Hardly a good win for the shams, you only had 8 seniors on and still hammered a very poor Oisins outfit who are destined for div 2 long before the last match. Looking forward to the match on sunday hoping all the loughgiel lads do their bit for the county this weekend (as Stewards) The Dall lads need a bit of help scoring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2011, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 11, 2011, 07:42:44 PM
Hardly a good win for the shams, you only had 8 seniors on and still hammered a very poor Oisins outfit who are destined for div 2 long before the last match. Looking forward to the match on sunday hoping all the loughgiel lads do their bit for the county this weekend (as Stewards) The Dall lads need a bit of help scoring.
Any win is a good win no matter who is playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 11, 2011, 11:53:55 PM
Looks like Rossa will be spending another year in Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 14, 2011, 12:28:24 PM
Not much chat about the big game in NA at the weekend lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 14, 2011, 03:34:03 PM
All the chats on the county site about a venue. Could do with naming a team with a good few North Antrim names to get a crowd out. Especially from the smaller clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 14, 2011, 03:41:14 PM
I thought it had already been set for LG

Couldnt go to Ballycastle it is a disaster to get in and out of and would inevitably lead to the game start being delayed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on April 14, 2011, 04:34:53 PM
heard it could be a very injury hit team playing on sunday. only 12 turned up for training on saturday an they were given tuesday night of for a rest in the hope some injuries clear up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 14, 2011, 05:16:13 PM
It has NAG, but hopefully the North Antrim folk come out in numbers to the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 15, 2011, 10:23:25 AM
Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has made four changes in personnel for Sunday's Allianz National League final round game against Limerick.

Sean Hawes returns in goal, Ciaran Herron is named at left half back and Karl McKeegan and Michael Armstrong come into the forward unit.

Christopher O'Connell, James McCouaig, Eddie McCloskey and Christopher McGuinness are the four to make way.



Victory for Antrim could give them a place in the Division 2 final against Limerick - but only if Carlow pull off a shock against Clare in Ennis.

The game takes place at Fr Healy Park in Loughgiel, where there is a 2.30pm start.

Antrim (SH v Limerick): Sean Hawes; Neil McAuley, Kieran McGourty, Kevin Molloy; Aaron Graffin, Michael Herron, Ciaran Herron; Karl Stewart, Shane McNaughton; Paul Shiels, Simon McCrory, Karl McKeegan; Michael Armstrong, Neil McManus, Barry McFall.

Subs: Christopher O Connell, Darren Hamill, Thomas McCann, James Black, Colm McFall, Matthew Donnelly, Christopher McGuinness, Conor Carson, Stephen Shannon, Liam Kearns, Conor McCann, James McCouaig, Eddie McCloskey, Kevin McKeague, Cormac Donnelly, PJ O Connell.


Whats the story with Cormac Donnelly? Been named on the bench the last number of games but hasn't played any minutes I think. Is he injured or what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
Has he not been to Germany for an operation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 15, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
When was that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2011, 12:43:06 PM
Well either has been or is going from what I have heard, also JC heading to England to see an ankle specialist?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2011, 12:23:26 PM
If this game was played in Torr Head it wouldn't make a difference to the scoreline, Limerick are making serious movement at this level and gearing up for a crack at Waterford in the Munster championship. Dinny's selection and injury problems will mean at least a 10 point win for the visitors I'm afraid.

After the debacle of last season, Limerick, under O'Grady have concentrated on hurling and I don't think they will be in the mood to ease up on Antrim tomorrow in Loughgiel.

I'll be heading down in hope but with so many players playing out of position I can't see how we will get close to them.

PS.

Casement would have been better :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 16, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2011, 12:23:26 PM
If this game was played in Torr Head it wouldn't make a difference to the scoreline, Limerick are making serious movement at this level and gearing up for a crack at Waterford in the Munster championship. Dinny's selection and injury problems will mean at least a 10 point win for the visitors I'm afraid.

After the debacle of last season, Limerick, under O'Grady have concentrated on hurling and I don't think they will be in the mood to ease up on Antrim tomorrow in Loughgiel.

I'll be heading down in hope but with so many players playing out of position I can't see how we will get close to them.

PS.

Casement would have been better :o :o
You lot can't have everything up there, even though you'd like it all.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2011, 05:36:14 PM
first field on the right i take it for the parking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 17, 2011, 10:15:51 AM
Shorty to play full forward today with shane and karl beside him. Looking to exploit lucey at full back. Graffin to play corner back with neil mcauley at wing back. I think it could be armstrong and mcguinness at midfield or one of them with mcfall. Certainly won't be as named, at least positional wise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 11:23:58 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2011, 10:15:51 AM
Shorty to play full forward today with shane and karl beside him. Looking to exploit lucey at full back. Graffin to play corner back with neil mcauley at wing back. I think it could be armstrong and mcguinness at midfield or one of them with mcfall. Certainly won't be as named, at least positional wise

Karl McKeegan? Don't think exploiting Lucey will be his game today, or any other day for that matter, Karl is not your natural forward, think i can say that, no better man (in his day) to attack a ball from defence, but playing corner forward at county level is completely different and against a team that is heading straight up to division one.

Its the team selection today that worries me, Not overly impressed with Armstrong, McGuinness, while a gifted hurler is too young and wouldn't have the strength to take the big hits that Limerick will be giving today.

is PJ O Connell injured or just out of favour at the minute?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on April 17, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 11:23:58 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 17, 2011, 10:15:51 AM
Shorty to play full forward today with shane and karl beside him. Looking to exploit lucey at full back. Graffin to play corner back with neil mcauley at wing back. I think it could be armstrong and mcguinness at midfield or one of them with mcfall. Certainly won't be as named, at least positional wise

Karl McKeegan? Don't think exploiting Lucey will be his game today, or any other day for that matter, Karl is not your natural forward, think i can say that, no better man (in his day) to attack a ball from defence, but playing corner forward at county level is completely different and against a team that is heading straight up to division one.

Its the team selection today that worries me, Not overly impressed with Armstrong, McGuinness, while a gifted hurler is too young and wouldn't have the strength to take the big hits that Limerick will be giving today.

is PJ O Connell injured or just out of favour at the minute?

Injured his knee in the Carlow match, still not fit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2011, 03:18:15 PM
Antrim 0-5 Limerick 1-10.

I think I'll head up to the Pound!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 05:44:49 PM
Not great and, playing the team as the colonel said has proved disastrous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2011, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 05:44:49 PM
Not great and, playing the team as the colonel said has proved disastrous
I concur.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
That was rubbish today, Fair play Limerick coming down to the Glens and playing good entertaining hurling, thought there was going to be a lot of atmosphere, I've seen more people attend a Minor championship match and more atmosphere at a funeral!!! 

Last time in the Glens please, puts to bed the notion of making it harder for the opposition and the craics ninety!!!
It only annoys them and they give you a bigger beating.

Who thought this tactic of out pacing Lucey would work?? Sticking high balls into the forward line is a backs dream!!



Karl McKeegan is a back or midfield (but doubt he's fit enough at that level)

Ciaran McGourty is a corner/half back not a fullback.

McManus is too good to be in full forward, central position only.

Karl Stewart has played all his best games for Antrim from midfield.


Was standing beside Mark Foley (ex Limerick all Star) Decent buddy good crack and very knowledgeable of the club teams in Antrim and even my own team!! He was telling the Full forward for Limerick and the number 10 were only out of minor!! Big lads and they managed a few scores today.

Who was the kid Antrim brought on at corner forward late in the second half?? He'd need to start filling out a wee bit, there was more meat on a chicken wing than on his twigs!!

Limerick have 12 senior teams playing in 4 groups which affect how your final pairing are in championship, top eight (top two each group) straight into the quarters and the rest fight it of for relegation!!!

I like this format, Galway use it Kilkenny use it a few others use it also. needs looking into. But with the Down teams involved here it may not get off the ground.

PS referee watch: Hasson from Derry was refereeing it, i thought he was at an eighties disco!! the amount of times he waved his hands above his head was beyond belief. He was consistent though, consistently crap!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 18, 2011, 06:26:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PMWho was the kid Antrim brought on at corner forward late in the second half?? He'd need to start filling out a wee bit, there was more meat on a chicken wing than on his twigs!!
Was that not young Chris McGuinness from Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2011, 08:34:06 AM
Whoever has taken over milltown row's account again is making him look like a real idiot.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
PS referee watch: Hasson from Derry was refereeing it, i thought he was at an eighties disco!! the amount of times he waved his hands above his head was beyond belief. He was consistent though, consistently crap!!

Any relation to this boy?

Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
Eamon is a excellent referee, has done a few games already and did the line against us v Loughgiel last year

Wally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2011, 08:44:13 AM
Milltown on the ropes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 18, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 18, 2011, 06:26:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PMWho was the kid Antrim brought on at corner forward late in the second half?? He'd need to start filling out a wee bit, there was more meat on a chicken wing than on his twigs!!
Was that not young Chris McGuinness from Rossa?

No. 19 was James Black from Carey.  Only about 17/18.

'Cricky' McGuiness came on later and scored a good point. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on April 18, 2011, 08:34:06 AM
Whoever has taken over milltown row's account again is making him look like a real idiot.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
PS referee watch: Hasson from Derry was refereeing it, i thought he was at an eighties disco!! the amount of times he waved his hands above his head was beyond belief. He was consistent though, consistently crap!!

Any relation to this boy?

Quote from: milltown row on October 20, 2009, 03:41:58 PM
Eamon is a excellent referee, has done a few games already and did the line against us v Loughgiel last year

Wally.

That game was 2008 3 years ago, he was crap yesterday, like a lot of players they sometimes have a bad game yesterday was one of them, Don't take my word on it, Mark Foley was shaking his head and said Camogie would be about his level yesterday!!


Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
McGourty is an excellent fullback, played fullback for the club last season and for most parts didn't give his player a puck of the ball the whole game. Played full back after ten minutes against Loughgiel in the Championship and never give Dim Dim the ball (i know that not much)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Ciaran McGourty is a corner/half back not a fullback.

Wally.

At Club level Hardstation, I've no problem in saying that.

Groundie do you want me to be honest about the Johnnie lads yesterday :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on April 19, 2011, 12:07:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
McGourty is an excellent fullback, played fullback for the club last season and for most parts didn't give his player a puck of the ball the whole game. Played full back after ten minutes against Loughgiel in the Championship and never give Dim Dim the ball (i know that not much)

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Ciaran McGourty is a corner/half back not a fullback.

Wally.

Was just thinking if i remembered him writing that before.  Bad luck MR2 - take it on the chin!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
Ahem

People thought a certain sports writer was great fella until a very recently (allegedly  ::)). People have the right in light of new information to change their minds about people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
Me a plonker??  happy with my post. Had some of the posters went to the match they could have made their own call on how the game went.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 22, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games

Noticed on the Antrim site that there is a lot of upheaval about games on Easter Sunday!  I don't see a problem that we have to play these games on Easter Sunday in order to make sure the leagues are kept on track but what's wrong with swapping a few fixtures about so that the likes of Cushendall don't have to travel the whole way to Portaferry!  Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycran and Ballygalget are all getting games close to home whereas Cushendall are leaving at 9.00am to go to the Ards!  Could this not have been swapped with another game later in the year to allow us to play a game closer to home?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 22, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 22, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games

Noticed on the Antrim site that there is a lot of upheaval about games on Easter Sunday!  I don't see a problem that we have to play these games on Easter Sunday in order to make sure the leagues are kept on track but what's wrong with swapping a few fixtures about so that the likes of Cushendall don't have to travel the whole way to Portaferry!  Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycran and Ballygalget are all getting games close to home whereas Cushendall are leaving at 9.00am to go to the Ards!  Could this not have been swapped with another game later in the year to allow us to play a game closer to home?

Whilst its not ideal its certainly a lot better than having to make the journey on a wednesday night!

Are you suggesting St Johns to Portaferry and then Glenariffe vrs Cushendall?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 22, 2011, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 22, 2011, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 22, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games

Noticed on the Antrim site that there is a lot of upheaval about games on Easter Sunday!  I don't see a problem that we have to play these games on Easter Sunday in order to make sure the leagues are kept on track but what's wrong with swapping a few fixtures about so that the likes of Cushendall don't have to travel the whole way to Portaferry!  Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycran and Ballygalget are all getting games close to home whereas Cushendall are leaving at 9.00am to go to the Ards!  Could this not have been swapped with another game later in the year to allow us to play a game closer to home?

Whilst its not ideal its certainly a lot better than having to make the journey on a wednesday night!

Are you suggesting St Johns to Portaferry and then Glenariffe vrs Cushendall?

Not specifically suggesting that exact 'exchange' of fixtures.  St John's & Glenariffe is on Saturday - but an hour for St John's would be a lot easier than 2 hours for Cushendall to travel.  I'm just suggesting that maybe the fixtures could be fiddled with and swapped about.  Just my opinion!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games
I fancy the shams by at least 6 points. Dunloy are getting progressively worse. They remind me of us about 20 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 23, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games
I fancy the shams by at least 6 points. Dunloy are getting progressively worse. They remind me of us about 2 years ago.

Fixed for you.  No bother :P

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 24, 2011, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?

Shane O'Neills Glenarm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:18:38 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 24, 2011, 01:14:27 AM
Quote from: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?

Shane O'Neills Glenarm.

Did they amalgamate or was it always the one club and parish ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on April 24, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
They need a ground in Carnlough if you ask me if they want to develop as a club.  Any time i've been up there, its been one man and a dog watching (in the howling wind and rain)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2011, 10:08:26 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 23, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: concrete_boots on April 22, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
St Johns   Glenariffe   Corrigan Park   23/04/2011   18:30   Hugh Torney   Round 2   St Johns
Portaferry   Cushendall   Portaferry   24/04/2011   12:30      Round 2   Cushendall
Ballygalget   Ballycran   Ballygalget   24/04/2011   15:30   Ray Matthews   Round 2   Ballycran
Dunloy   Loughgiel   Dunloy   24/04/2011   16:30   Terry Reilly   Round 2  Dunloy

Just my pick for this weekends games
I fancy the shams by at least 6 points. Dunloy are getting progressively worse. They remind me of us about 2 years ago.

Fixed for you.  No bother :P
We weren't that bad 2 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Loughgiel had a very weakened team out yesterday. Don't read too much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2011, 09:34:29 PM
Quote from: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?
I *think* they used to have a football team so a club must have existed in some form there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 26, 2011, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Loughgiel had a very weakened team out yesterday. Don't read too much into it.

Heard that Loughgiel were missing a couple right enough!  Johnny Campbell out long term? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
All teams will have players missing. Still some beating all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 26, 2011, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
All teams will have players missing. Still some beating all the same.

I'd have thought Loughgeil would be better placed with strength in depth, but that's obviously not the case. Strange, considering the size of the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 26, 2011, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2011, 09:34:29 PM
Quote from: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?
I *think* they used to have a football team so a club must have existed in some form there.

I can never remember a Gaa team in Carnlough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 26, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
60s or 70s this was though - not recently. I vaguely remember my da telling me this so must ask him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 26, 2011, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
All teams will have players missing. Still some beating all the same.

I'd have thought Loughgeil would be better placed with strength in depth, but that's obviously not the case. Strange, considering the size of the club.
They maybe should have played more from the reserve team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on April 27, 2011, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 26, 2011, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Loughgiel had a very weakened team out yesterday. Don't read too much into it.

Heard that Loughgiel were missing a couple right enough!  Johnny Campbell out long term?

I wouldn't say we had a 'very' weakened team out.  JC, Ding  and Winker - although they are 3 key players in our team.  Sounds like a bit of a role reversal of the Ulster League game where Dunloy were poor.  Unfortunately we dont have strength in depth but any club would strugle to replace the 3 players we had out.  As for the boys that did play, they were terrible.  Dunloy outplayed us all over the field.  Heard last night that JC could be out for up to 4 months  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on April 27, 2011, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2011, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 25, 2011, 09:34:29 PM
Quote from: spuds on April 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
Lads, what GAA club do people from Carnlough play for ?
I *think* they used to have a football team so a club must have existed in some form there.

I can never remember a Gaa team in Carnlough.

The power of Google -

The GAA in Carnlough - Carnlough Harps
Formed 1906-07 –
1966 – Carnlough GAC - rejoined leagues withdrawing in 1974 (lost Junior Football final)
Club built in late Sixties on Ballymena line but bombed c1972
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2011, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on April 27, 2011, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 26, 2011, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Loughgiel had a very weakened team out yesterday. Don't read too much into it.

Heard that Loughgiel were missing a couple right enough!  Johnny Campbell out long term?

I wouldn't say we had a 'very' weakened team out.  JC, Ding  and Winker - although they are 3 key players in our team.  Sounds like a bit of a role reversal of the Ulster League game where Dunloy were poor.  Unfortunately we dont have strength in depth but any club would strugle to replace the 3 players we had out.  As for the boys that did play, they were terrible.  Dunloy outplayed us all over the field.  Heard last night that JC could be out for up to 4 months  :-\

He'll be back for Championship then, along with the rest. Jim Nelson still involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on April 27, 2011, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2011, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on April 27, 2011, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 26, 2011, 04:21:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.
Loughgiel had a very weakened team out yesterday. Don't read too much into it.

Heard that Loughgiel were missing a couple right enough!  Johnny Campbell out long term?

I wouldn't say we had a 'very' weakened team out.  JC, Ding  and Winker - although they are 3 key players in our team.  Sounds like a bit of a role reversal of the Ulster League game where Dunloy were poor.  Unfortunately we dont have strength in depth but any club would strugle to replace the 3 players we had out.  As for the boys that did play, they were terrible.  Dunloy outplayed us all over the field.  Heard last night that JC could be out for up to 4 months  :-\

He'll be back for Championship then, along with the rest. Jim Nelson still involved?

Yeah should be, barring any set back. Ding on holiday so should be back soon.  LW still having knee problems.  Jim's still there along with all the mangement team from last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on April 27, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2011, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on April 25, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
think Ballycastle are certs to go up now from Division 2. Very tight to see who goes down, i reckon its between st galls and glenarm, 2 very bad outfits!  :-\

Is that based on the current league standings? Played two won two, seems ok.

Seems Dunloy give Loughgiel a hurling lesson yesterday.

MR3 four points isnt going to keep you up in such a tight division, iv just heard theyve been poor. Who do you predict to go down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2011, 02:50:53 PM
4 more points than the two teams we have played. Yes both Rossa and Tir na og were poor.

Glenarm (based on the games we played them last year)  for sure and one other.

We have nearly a new team. 8 Players have made it onto the team from last year and have started well.

Would hope not to go down.

So joxer, make judgements based on last year (finished joint 4th) and how we have started this year. Not something you have heard in a pub or black hack on the way to Andytown! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on May 03, 2011, 09:38:34 AM
Some good games by the look of the results of the under 21 championship.  Are Ballycastle expected to hold on to their title?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on May 03, 2011, 09:50:33 AM
Where's this referee from again?  Always got on well with him - good referee. http://vimeo.com/23110489
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 03, 2011, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: 4father on May 03, 2011, 09:50:33 AM
Where's this referee from again?  Always got on well with him - good referee. http://vimeo.com/23110489

Eoin Quinn, Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on May 03, 2011, 10:07:56 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on May 03, 2011, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: 4father on May 03, 2011, 09:50:33 AM
Where's this referee from again?  Always got on well with him - good referee. http://vimeo.com/23110489

Eoin Quinn, Rasharkin

Thanks.  Always thought he done well in any of the games I played in.  Not above himself, always explained things and of course up with the play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 03, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
I see Cody giving E Hassan a touch about the Larkin sending off, what more does he want.

Larkin struck with the stick and now has to take the consequences.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 03, 2011, 11:05:01 AM
Absolutely, fair play to Eamonn for having the courage to do it, umpires surely saw the John Dalton incident and obviously said nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 03, 2011, 11:17:15 AM
Dalton's surely not off the hook,never took him to be such a nut. Agreed, fair play to Hasson especially with Cody on his elbow. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 03, 2011, 12:00:45 PM
Shows that Cody maybe isnt a sweet and innocent as he would let on to be and be all about fair play etc

He obviously has the ruthless side to him as well, good to see Hassan sticking to his guns, although he might have choosen the lesser of two evils when you see the kind of mood Daly appeared to be in  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 03, 2011, 12:24:35 PM
Will the league games on Sunday be played just 6 days before the Laois match on 14th May?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
I would hope so. Games not played at the weekend because the county had weekends away (training ;)) so the county have fixed games around the County teams.

Our seconds playing St Enda's so our game will go ahead Last Man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 03, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
Be less hassle arranging the Div 1 matches than the div 2 games, with the current squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 03, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
Be less hassle arranging the Div 1 matches than the div 2 games, with the current squad.

div 4 games may have to be called off also :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 03, 2011, 02:31:15 PM
Says alot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 03, 2011, 05:26:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
I would hope so. Games not played at the weekend because the county had weekends away (training ;)) so the county have fixed games around the County teams.

Our seconds playing St Enda's so our game will go ahead Last Man
Can hardly wait!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 04, 2011, 08:04:59 AM
Are the hurling league fixtures going ahead on Sunday? Antrim play Laois on 14th May.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2011, 08:53:32 AM
Non in the paper yesterday so Id guess not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 04, 2011, 11:35:07 AM
they're still on the Antrim GAA website.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on May 04, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
cushendall st Johns game is cancelled. I assume the rest of the matches are aswell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 05, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: ruairi on May 04, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
cushendall st Johns game is cancelled. I assume the rest of the matches are aswell.

It now looks like the senior games are cancelled, but the reserve games are going ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2011, 11:25:56 AM
Cant see many reserves teams traveling on their own?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 05, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2011, 11:25:56 AM
Cant see many reserves teams traveling on their own?

We'd prefer not to travel, but a £300 fine may force our hand, plus its more likely now that the refixed games will be played midweek so no reserve game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2011, 02:36:20 PM
You'll be going down with a stronger team. though so will they!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 05, 2011, 04:38:14 PM
We're still taking two teams up to Loughgiel on Sunday, so they must be happy enough to play minus their county players, not sure how many they have as I think there was only one playing against Down a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 05, 2011, 04:38:14 PM
We're still taking two teams up to Loughgiel on Sunday, so they must be happy enough to play minus their county players, not sure how many they have as I think there was only one playing against Down a few weeks ago.

Loughgiel would have at least 3 teams. No bother to them, PJ probably still playing for the seconds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 06, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
I see (as someone may have mentioned earlier) that the fixtures are off the Antrim website for Divisions 1, 2 and 3.

Anyone know if this was an oversight or are they actually considering calling off all thise games this Sunday. If so that is a complete disgrace. 6 days to a match.

Admittedly it affects a smattering of Division 2 teams but Division 3:

Sarsfields    St Pauls    I believe 2 Sarsfields men have been called up at a late stage. Won't start. No St Pauls.
Armoy    Cushendun No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Bredagh    Cloughmills No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Glenravel    Rasharkin    No players on panel – as far as I am aware

The administrators get on their high horse re games being played over Easter. Fixtures are (in the main) fulfilled and then they/CCC do this.

I hope I am jumping the gun.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 06, 2011, 01:38:14 PM
Player welfare when it suits them and not when it suits the clubs!

Any clubs with any type of squad would be resting their starting boys the next day anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 06, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 06, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
I see (as someone may have mentioned earlier) that the fixtures are off the Antrim website for Divisions 1, 2 and 3.

Anyone know if this was an oversight or are they actually considering calling off all thise games this Sunday. If so that is a complete disgrace. 6 days to a match.

Admittedly it affects a smattering of Division 2 teams but Division 3:

Sarsfields    St Pauls    I believe 2 Sarsfields men have been called up at a late stage. Won't start. No St Pauls.
Armoy    Cushendun No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Bredagh    Cloughmills No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Glenravel    Rasharkin    No players on panel – as far as I am aware

The administrators get on their high horse re games being played over Easter. Fixtures are (in the main) fulfilled and then they/CCC do this.

I hope I am jumping the gun.

This is the 10 day rule for inter-county games and therefore its up to the county management to decide to pull the county players from these games. If they do that then the clubs can decide to go ahead or not so in this case i dont think its 100% the county boards fault. However you could question why the county set fixtures for this Sunday knowing the Laois game is next weekend but as JC says above it looks like Loughgiel are set to play without their county players so 1 fixture will at least be out of the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 06, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 06, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 06, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
I see (as someone may have mentioned earlier) that the fixtures are off the Antrim website for Divisions 1, 2 and 3.

Anyone know if this was an oversight or are they actually considering calling off all thise games this Sunday. If so that is a complete disgrace. 6 days to a match.

Admittedly it affects a smattering of Division 2 teams but Division 3:

Sarsfields    St Pauls    I believe 2 Sarsfields men have been called up at a late stage. Won't start. No St Pauls.
Armoy    Cushendun No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Bredagh    Cloughmills No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Glenravel    Rasharkin    No players on panel – as far as I am aware

The administrators get on their high horse re games being played over Easter. Fixtures are (in the main) fulfilled and then they/CCC do this.

I hope I am jumping the gun.

This is the 10 day rule for inter-county games and therefore its up to the county management to decide to pull the county players from these games. If they do that then the clubs can decide to go ahead or not so in this case i dont think its 100% the county boards fault. However you could question why the county set fixtures for this Sunday knowing the Laois game is next weekend but as JC says above it looks like Loughgiel are set to play without their county players so 1 fixture will at least be out of the way.

If Down hurling management had of invoked the 10 day rule we wouldn't have struck leather this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 06, 2011, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 06, 2011, 02:07:27 PM
Unfortunalty some clubs cannot affrod to be resting players!

My point exactly but it shows that the issue of player welfare is again left in the hands of the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on May 06, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 06, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 06, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 06, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
I see (as someone may have mentioned earlier) that the fixtures are off the Antrim website for Divisions 1, 2 and 3.

Anyone know if this was an oversight or are they actually considering calling off all thise games this Sunday. If so that is a complete disgrace. 6 days to a match.

Admittedly it affects a smattering of Division 2 teams but Division 3:

Sarsfields    St Pauls    I believe 2 Sarsfields men have been called up at a late stage. Won't start. No St Pauls.
Armoy    Cushendun No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Bredagh    Cloughmills No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Glenravel    Rasharkin    No players on panel – as far as I am aware

The administrators get on their high horse re games being played over Easter. Fixtures are (in the main) fulfilled and then they/CCC do this.

I hope I am jumping the gun.

This is the 10 day rule for inter-county games and therefore its up to the county management to decide to pull the county players from these games. If they do that then the clubs can decide to go ahead or not so in this case i dont think its 100% the county boards fault. However you could question why the county set fixtures for this Sunday knowing the Laois game is next weekend but as JC says above it looks like Loughgiel are set to play without their county players so 1 fixture will at least be out of the way.

If Down hurling management had of invoked the 10 day rule we wouldn't have struck leather this year.

Surely the 10 day rule can only be invoked for Championship Hurling ???? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 06, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
Regarding this 10 day rule and clubs being left to consider player welfare on their own

Do you boys not know we've an all Ireland to win  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 06, 2011, 06:03:37 PM
They had their training weekend last weekend which ment another round of games was skipped. I think the squad needs as much preparation as possible as the league was shaky. Any ideas of a starting team after last week? Did anyone emerge from the shadows?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2011, 06:14:07 PM
Not looking forward to this, i know we should beat Laois but they manage to give us a hard game every year we play them. Very accurate from frees and have beaten Clare this year already.

They will be in good shape, better than we have of late and i listened to the league match this year and they were first to every ball and only for McManus scoring a fair amount of frees we would have been beaten by more!!

Spoke to Stewarty afterwards and he said that they played crap and just couldn't get going that day and Laois played at a higher tempo from the very start.

Obviously the game next week will have a bigger meaning than the league but I'm hoping we pull it together and get past Laois to play Wexford (I think)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 09, 2011, 09:20:16 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on May 06, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 06, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 06, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 06, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
I see (as someone may have mentioned earlier) that the fixtures are off the Antrim website for Divisions 1, 2 and 3.

Anyone know if this was an oversight or are they actually considering calling off all thise games this Sunday. If so that is a complete disgrace. 6 days to a match.

Admittedly it affects a smattering of Division 2 teams but Division 3:

Sarsfields    St Pauls    I believe 2 Sarsfields men have been called up at a late stage. Won't start. No St Pauls.
Armoy    Cushendun No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Bredagh    Cloughmills No players on panel – as far as I am aware
Glenravel    Rasharkin    No players on panel – as far as I am aware

The administrators get on their high horse re games being played over Easter. Fixtures are (in the main) fulfilled and then they/CCC do this.

I hope I am jumping the gun.

This is the 10 day rule for inter-county games and therefore its up to the county management to decide to pull the county players from these games. If they do that then the clubs can decide to go ahead or not so in this case i dont think its 100% the county boards fault. However you could question why the county set fixtures for this Sunday knowing the Laois game is next weekend but as JC says above it looks like Loughgiel are set to play without their county players so 1 fixture will at least be out of the way.

If Down hurling management had of invoked the 10 day rule we wouldn't have struck leather this year.

Surely the 10 day rule can only be invoked for Championship Hurling ???? ???

The Christy Ring is meant to be championship hurling, Groundie and Down have had games the last three saturday's on the bounce.

Poor day up with the bodies yesterday for us (becoming a bit of a habit) where we played with the wind in the first half and I think were a point down at half time, then a turkey shoot in the second. It was far from a strong Loughgeil team as well. Our training and attitude at it needs stepped up big time, but its hard to do with half the team away with the county every other night.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 09, 2011, 09:31:20 AM
Gents any truth in the rumour that Chrissy o Connell has walked from County panel? Stephen Mc Ginn (WHO) yep has come in as a replacement, he plays for Carey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 09, 2011, 09:34:54 AM
Why would a player train and play all winter only to drop out a week before the Leinster Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 09, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
From what I heard there are very poor attendances at training with some players picking and choosing their sessions.

Not great preparation regardless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2011, 06:07:04 PM
Was going to head down but seven start is a tad late. would have to stay over, pay all that money and they aren't training as they should!! radio it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
It is a very bad time for the game, will put alot of people off I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2011, 02:43:35 PM
Team for Saturday night from County Website:

Laois V Antrim, Saturday 14 May 7pm, Portlaoise.

1 Christopher O Connell

2 Christopher McGuinness
3 Aaron Graffin
4 Kevin Molloy

5 Neil McAuley
6 Michael Herron
7 Ciaran Herron

8 Paul Shiels
9 Barry McFall

10 Shane McNaughton
11 Karl Stewart
12 James Black

13 Conor McCann
14 Neil McManus
15 Karl McKeegan

16 Sean Hawes
17 Darren Hamill
18 Thomas McCann
19 Simon McCrory
20 Colm McFall
21 Kieran McGourty
22 Michael Armstrong
23 Conor Carson
24 James McCouaig
25 Paddy Doherty
26 Mark Rea
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 11, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
Strange team. Does McGuinness not normally play forwards? Surprised at James Black & Conor McCann starting. McGourty injured or dropped? Paddy Doc called up recently obviously.

I can't see us winning with that team unfortunately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on May 11, 2011, 03:35:37 PM
mcmanus at 14 ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 11, 2011, 03:46:49 PM
He's played there in the last couple of league matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2011, 04:18:36 PM
Hammered!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 11, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
Strange team. Does McGuinness not normally play forwards? Surprised at James Black & Conor McCann starting. McGourty injured or dropped? Paddy Doc called up recently obviously.

I can't see us winning with that team unfortunately

Feeling less and less confident as the game approaches.

Would have started McGourty and McCrory. We could do with McManus further out the field, but we have no one to go in full forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 11, 2011, 05:11:26 PM
Who the f**k are Conor McCann and Mark Rea?

Graffin has never played FB at senior level although I don't think there hasn't been many other options.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2011, 05:26:55 PM
Can this be the real team starting? Don't see the other Donnelly lad on the team, No Loughgiel players, is this lad Black the "Claw" More meat on a tooth pick!! McGuinness is a classy player, very young but good stick man, would prefer him up front. Playing McManus in full forward will work if we get enough ball into him.

Maybe things are shaping up well at training ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2011, 05:45:06 PM
Surely it will be good for hurling in Antrim for lower division hurlers with ambition to see so many representatives from Div2 and 3. Hopefully will kick Div1 hurlers up the ass a bit as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on May 11, 2011, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: pullhard on May 11, 2011, 03:35:37 PM
mcmanus at 14 ??

surely hes too good for 14. He needs to be out the field. Unless there going to be playing a 2 men full forward line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
Yes skull that will certainly buck up their ideas!! Bloody cheek of those top flight hurlers, snobs the lot of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 11, 2011, 08:26:52 PM
I was looking forward to going to this match but Im not so sure if Im going to go now after seeing the team.

Cant understand why Dinny keeps repeating that he uses the league to look at players yet Conor McCann has not played in any league games and Dinny picks him for a championship match after a training weekend and a couple of friendlies. 

I believe he was on the minor team a couple of years ago and is a brother of Thomas McCann from Creggan.

However his inclusion completely baffles me as he has no experience whatsoever.
   
Antrim should have been using the last few games of the league to start getting tuned in for the championship match with Laois
and Dinny at least should have had an idea of his starting 15.

Against Limerick Antrim were very poor, first touch was bad and they looked lost, yet Dinny seems to think that they can get ready
for a championship match in 3 - 4 weeks.

The Limerick match should have been used to gage how the team was shaping up in preparation for the Laois match.

Unless Laois are in a bad way Im not sure if Antrim can get a result on Saturday evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
It really is a bizarre team to put out. There's also a Conor McCann from Gort NaMona isn't there?

Whole league campaign to look at guys and then boys like McGourty on the bench after a whole league campaign.

Still on past c'ship form Dinny has done well so I will trust his judgement for the time being...

Good to see Shields back and we have a few boys who are hitting towards the end of their careers so maybe no bad thing introducing some of these young boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
It really is a bizarre team to put out. There's also a Conor McCann from Gort NaMona isn't there?

Whole league campaign to look at guys and then boys like McGourty on the bench after a whole league campaign.

Still on past c'ship form Dinny has done well so I will trust his judgement for the time being...

Good to see Shields back and we have a few boys who are hitting towards the end of their careers so maybe no bad thing introducing some of these young boys.

Shields has been playing some games in the league, McGourty has had a broken finger for a while so maybe he's not playing due to an injury.

Like you imtommygunn, Dinny has made his name at championship games and i hope it's the same for Saturday night. Would like to get out to Croke for a game against Wexford, who are beatable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2011, 09:27:15 AM
Fearful of this match, although Dinny does save his best for Championship.

IMO Laois have been on a faster upward curve than ourselves. Am actually tired of these team selections to be honest, I am all for giving youth a chance but what is the point of the league if not to try these players out which Dinny always says the league is for anyway.

Even saying that, there is a massive difference in tipping around in Div2 NHL than the white hot pace of Championship hurling no matter how well anyone is going in training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 12, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Lads give the team a chance. Do you honestly think that you all know better than the management in Antrim?

I'm surprised at some of the inclusions in the team alright, some of them I havent seen playing before, but I'm willing to put my trust in Dinny and the management. They are of course the ones with experience and Dinnys championship track record isnt that bad.

By all accounts the results against the teams they played last weekend were good. From the antrim twitter they put up alot of scores. Hopefully this can happen on Sat.

Pity about the time of the game. Would loved to have went to it. Think someone mentioned midlands radio will have it on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
Have already said that Dinny's record in Championship (Bar Cork a few years ago) is grand but we can debate on whether the team is up to the mark. Like I have said would like to get to Croke to play Wexford and see where we end up after that.

Saturday it is Midlands radio, they are seriously biased though!!







Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 12, 2011, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on May 12, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Lads give the team a chance. Do you honestly think that you all know better than the management in Antrim?

I'm surprised at some of the inclusions in the team alright, some of them I havent seen playing before, but I'm willing to put my trust in Dinny and the management. They are of course the ones with experience and Dinnys championship track record isnt that bad.

By all accounts the results against the teams they played last weekend were good. From the antrim twitter they put up alot of scores. Hopefully this can happen on Sat.

Pity about the time of the game. Would loved to have went to it. Think someone mentioned midlands radio will have it on.

I agree with you Onthehill about giving them a chance. I dont think people are taking in to account the calibre of the 4 injured and 1 suspended player that we are missing. They would all be on the starting 15 if available and Antrim cant afford to be missing that number of good and important players to the team.

However is Dinny putting on the 4 debutants instead of more experienced heads (McCrory, McGourty etc) with the attitude of giving them championship experience and if we lose we still have the qualifiers with some of the missing players back?

As far as Wexford is concerned if Antrim win it is due to be played in Wexford Park. Dont think they will want to give that up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on May 12, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 11, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
Strange team. Does McGuinness not normally play forwards? Surprised at James Black & Conor McCann starting. McGourty injured or dropped? Paddy Doc called up recently obviously.

I can't see us winning with that team unfortunately

Feeling less and less confident as the game approaches.

Would have started McGourty and McCrory. We could do with McManus further out the field, but we have no one to go in full forward.

I wouldn't be surprised to see McGourty and McCrory starting - dummy team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2011, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 12, 2011, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on May 12, 2011, 03:31:10 PM
Lads give the team a chance. Do you honestly think that you all know better than the management in Antrim?

I'm surprised at some of the inclusions in the team alright, some of them I havent seen playing before, but I'm willing to put my trust in Dinny and the management. They are of course the ones with experience and Dinnys championship track record isnt that bad.

By all accounts the results against the teams they played last weekend were good. From the antrim twitter they put up alot of scores. Hopefully this can happen on Sat.

Pity about the time of the game. Would loved to have went to it. Think someone mentioned midlands radio will have it on.

I agree with you Onthehill about giving them a chance. I dont think people are taking in to account the calibre of the 4 injured and 1 suspended player that we are missing. They would all be on the starting 15 if available and Antrim cant afford to be missing that number of good and important players to the team.

However is Dinny putting on the 4 debutants instead of more experienced heads (McCrory, McGourty etc) with the attitude of giving them championship experience and if we lose we still have the qualifiers with some of the missing players back?

As far as Wexford is concerned if Antrim win it is due to be played in Wexford Park. Dont think they will want to give that up.

I thought it was pencilled in for a double header at Croke, before the Dublin Galway game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 13, 2011, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2011, 11:13:40 PM

I thought it was pencilled in for a double header at Croke, before the Dublin Galway game

Your getting ahead of yerself MR; its the Dublin Offaly game that has been moved to Croke Pk on Sunday May 29. Its fixed for 2.00pm for tv so unlikely they will have a senior championship game on before it at 12.00. Anyway according to the fixtures list if Laois win tomorrow they will play Wexford in Portlaoise; if Antrim win they go to Wexford Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2011, 12:32:17 PM
In the shape Wexford are in at the minute they will be looking for every advantage that they can get to start a run off in the championship. So doubt if they would concede anything regardless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 13, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
Why were St John's disqualified from Feile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2011, 04:55:35 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on May 13, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
Why were St John's disqualified from Feile?

Never heard this? Over aged players?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 13, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
There's form!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on May 13, 2011, 09:16:02 PM
have heard they played an unregistered player brought on as a sub for a run on near the end of the game . although apparently the sent the forms to the county and asked the county to ring back if there was any problems but they didnt hear from the county so they thought it was ok.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 07:14:48 PM
9min Its a free for Antrim and its easily scored to give Antrim a three point lead.
6min Goal for Antrim by S McCrory who was named on the bench but has started the match.
4min Laois get the opening point from Sean Burke
1min Match underway, Laois have the wind.
0min Its going to be a very tight encounter in O'Moore park this evening. There is a huge breeze so it will be interesting to see who plays with the breeze in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 07:30:57 PM
26min Laois get a goal, they now lead by three. Neil Foyle finishes to the net.
25min Matt Whelan gives Laois the lead but they give away a silly free and the sides are level again.
24min Laois really should be in front, they have been totally in charge for the last fifteen minutes.
21min Hyland makes up for his wide with a free from a point.
20min Another poor wide from Wille Hyland this time he is going for a goal but misses the target.
17min Nice point from a free for Wille Hyland to get Laois back to within one, he followed that with a poor wide.
15min Great chance for Laois to get a goal but Houlihan's first touch was very poor.
13min Couple of poor wides from both teams who have both hitting three astray.
11min Jimmy Walsh brings Laois back to within two point with a nice point form play.
9min Its a free for Antrim and its easily scored to give Antrim a three point lead.

Goal, but come on 2 points in half a hour, are we playing into a strong wind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
Seems Antrim are playing into a breeze, Happy days
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 14, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Neal McAuley straight red! 1 point in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 08:14:06 PM
Antrim up by 2 now, Armstrong point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
level going in to last 5 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2011, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
level going in to last 5 mins

Antrim are 3 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2011, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
level going in to last 5 mins

Antrim are 3 up

Now 4 - END THIS AGONY!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
All over. Antrim win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
wexford game has to be in Croke?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bogball XV on May 14, 2011, 08:49:17 PM
Went to the gaa site for confirmation of this result and got this:
Quote
Laois and Offaly not only have the honour of getting the (small) ball rolling in this year's GAA Hurling Championship, their Portlaoise clash is also the first Championship game of the year in either code to be played on Irish soil after the footballers of Roscommon and New York got the GAA Championship season underway in the Big Apple two weeks ago.

Click on the links below for full previews and team news ahead of the first full weekend of Championship action in this year's Championship.

No result or latest scores of course, that'd be a bit too modern!!

RTE had nothing on the game at all, but did in fairness have plenty on the UHC matches from earlier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
wexford game has to be in Croke?

In Wexford I think, would have been in Laois if they had won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 09:13:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
wexford game has to be in Croke?

In Wexford I think, would have been in Laois if they had won.

Might make a weekend of it if its in Wexford, What date?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bogball XV on May 14, 2011, 09:26:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 09:13:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
wexford game has to be in Croke?

In Wexford I think, would have been in Laois if they had won.

Might make a weekend of it if its in Wexford, What date?
stay in the ferrycarrig just down the road from wexford park and owned by Liam Griffin I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 14, 2011, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2011, 09:09:57 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on May 14, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
wexford game has to be in Croke?

In Wexford I think, would have been in Laois if they had won.
That's a b**tard.

The very odd time I am wrong, but I think I read that somewhere last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 14, 2011, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 11, 2011, 05:11:26 PM
Who the f**k are Conor McCann and Mark Rea?

Graffin has never played FB at senior level although I don't think there hasn't been many other options.
Conor McCann?? Dinny knows best.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
I think Dinny knows how to win the big games. Fair play, boys did well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on May 14, 2011, 10:10:11 PM
conor must have done well, four points tonight, always was tipped to do well, very skillful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on May 14, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
Yeah I think Dinny would know better than the arseholes on here, so what if they don't play for Cushendall or some of the bigger teams. He sees them every night at training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: Trout on May 14, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
Yeah I think Dinny would know better than the arseholes on here, so what if they don't play for Cushendall or some of the bigger teams. He sees them every night at training.

Quote from: Trout on May 14, 2011, 10:53:36 PM
Yeah I think Dinny would know better than the arseholes on here, so what if they don't play for Cushendall or some of the bigger teams. He sees them every night at training.

We beat Laois who have beaten us the last few years and we managed to beat them tonight Trout, we played them tonight with an under strength team considering the players missing lately and ones pulled out late on.

Based on past results and the team i think it was a fair point by the arseholes on here to assume that we could get beat tonight.

I noticed before the match you failed to give your own view and waited till afterwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 11:42:46 PM
Aye, more than likely not born during the strikes and the effect it had at the time, I've a good mate who'd take him up on the offer of a pastie supper
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on May 15, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: aontroim on May 14, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Neal McAuley straight red! 1 point in it.

Will neal be out for the wexford game?
He isnt a sort of dirty player, what was the red card for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: pullhard on May 15, 2011, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: aontroim on May 14, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Neal McAuley straight red! 1 point in it.

Will neal be out for the wexford game?
He isnt a sort of dirty player, what was the red card for?

More than likely out if it's not appealed, Apparently it was very harsh in the first place
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 15, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
Didn't post my own thoughts before the game because I hadn't seen a lot of the players, certainly not in the positions they played. But fair game that was a big result and TBH was needed to justify Antrims inclusion in the Championship.

Surprised at McAuley getting red, as said not the type, but is discipline a worry for Antrim this year or just unlucky, 3rd Red so far.

I'm assuming Hippy & Eddie and possibly Kevin McKeague will all be available for wexford!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2011, 04:54:47 PM
Good win for Glenariife today against Portaferry, 3-12 to 0-9.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 06:55:50 PM
Heard Cushendall hammered Dunloy. Dunloy missing a lot?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
A good win for the shamrocks down in Ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on May 15, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2011, 11:42:46 PM
Aye, more than likely not born during the strikes and the effect it had at the time, I've a good mate who'd take him up on the offer of a pastie supper

you know me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 06:55:50 PM
Heard Cushendall hammered Dunloy. Dunloy missing a lot?

Not enough to merit the spanking we took.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2011, 11:37:06 PM
I see Rossa beat Ballycastle handy today, Maybe they wont go up as soon as they have expected
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2011, 08:29:07 AM
Good result for the Antrim boys, Laois are never easy to beat in their own backyard. Wouldnt be overly worried about Wexford I believe they are now on a par with the likes of Antrim Laois etc so other than the fact it is Wexford park dont see any major reason to be concerned.

This result was a Dinny special in the fact that he is the master of dampening any expectation before the championship by treating the league with distain. So hats off to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2011, 08:54:24 AM
Delighted with that result on saturday and great to read that guys like Conor McCann and some other newcomers were starring.

I don't think we have any reason to fear Wexford. I still believe our game against them in 2002(I think? - the year before the Cork debacle) was one we could and should have won. I think Padraig Horan did us no favours that day and with a rub of the green or a decision or two we would have won.

The dub guy Hiney wrote us off but then he wrote uis off last year in croke park against them and look how that turned out for him.

Interesting to hear Farrell saying we have forwards that would trouble most teams. We have been weak enough in forwards over the last few years so maybe some of these younger guys are what we need in there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2011, 10:18:40 AM
Yeah 1 - 21 is good nicking at this level so it's good to see a forward threat developing. The issue of the limited range of out and out scoring forwards in Antrim was identified a few years ago and I suppose it takes a few years for it to be addressed in the playing population although I do think this needs attention for a few years right through the agegroups. Really pleased for young Conor McCann and indeed all the lower divison men who I hear accounted for themselves more than admirably. You could tell 4/5 years ago that he wanted to be where he was on Saturday night, so for him to have had such a good debut on a big day for Antrim Hurling was great. The more SW hurlers shaping up at County level can only strengthen the game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
What was the craic in the league game yesterday then skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 16, 2011, 10:51:06 AM
The craic Nag was Cushendall where a much better team through out with Dunloy very dissapointing.

The first half was keenly contested, both team fielded strong and credit to the county men for lining out so soon after the Laois game.  It looked like we'd go in at HT level but Cushedall scored 2-1 in the last mins of the half.

On the resumption scored another goal within 5 mins and the game was up.  Neil McManus was superb and Cushendall look to have a good balance to their team once again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2011, 12:06:57 PM
First 25mins was even enough but throughout the game our touch and handling of the ball was very poor whereas Cushendall's was top drawer. 5 or 6 didn't look half interested when Cdall to a man upped their game which was championship level at times. Maybe that's just me but I seen some fairly unconvincing efforts from some yesterday. Maybe it was just one of those days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Dall peaking a wee bit early?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
What's the story with Liam Watson ?  Is he injured ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
What's the story with Liam Watson ?  Is he injured ?
He had an op on May 6th. He said that basically depending on how it goes he'll either be ok or maybe have to hang the boots up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
What's the story with Liam Watson ?  Is he injured ?
He had an op on May 6th. He said that basically depending on how it goes he'll either be ok or maybe have to hang the boots up.
Which translated for those not from Loughgiel means.... 'he'll be back in 3 weeks'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2011, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
What's the story with Liam Watson ?  Is he injured ?
He had an op on May 6th. He said that basically depending on how it goes he'll either be ok or maybe have to hang the boots up.
Which translated for those not from Loughgiel means.... 'he'll be back in 3 weeks'
Just passing on what he told me mate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 11:00:06 PM
Thanks seamroga, hopefully he will be back sooner rather than later, some player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on May 16, 2011, 11:23:35 PM
Two Hands, thats funny enough lad, aye winker comoing back would be great, with neil mc manus and conor mc cann showing good form antrim has a bit of FIREPOWER!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 06:28:57 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on May 16, 2011, 11:23:35 PM
Two Hands, thats funny enough lad, aye winker comoing back would be great, with neil mc manus and conor mc cann showing good form antrim has a bit of FIREPOWER!!!!
I have to say that I've been impressed with young McCann at this level. Having seen him perform well for Creggan a few times I never thought I'd be seeing him in a saffron shirt. Fair play to the lad, just shows how some fellas can improve when the standard around them improves. Kudos to Cahill et al for selecting him to play last Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:41 AM
It would be the worst thing they could do for team morale bringing LW back into the fold now. The team have been training away well most of them have and would be a massive disruption to introduce player or players who havent been there all year. But on this one wouldnt put it past Dinny.

He had a cartlidge operation on his knee anywhere from 4-6 weeks is the usual time frame. Funny the soccer dogs werent reaching for their pockets to pay for the op, wonder who footed the bill at the finish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 17, 2011, 01:28:40 PM
Great result at the weekend, I am sure I am thought of as one othe 'arseholes' giving off about Conor McCanns inclusion. I never commented on his ability as all I asked was who was he, because I had never heard of him. I don't think anyone slated him. But fair play to the young lad for his performance. A great introduction to Championship hurling. Dinny always baffles with some of his selections, and I'm sure that has been noted on here for many years. With only one or two exceptions he has been dead on, or very close to the mark so fair play to him!

Wexford will be a big step, but confidence should be high, as they are definately beatable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on May 17, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:41 AM
It would be the worst thing they could do for team morale bringing LW back into the fold now. The team have been training away well most of them have and would be a massive disruption to introduce player or players who havent been there all year. But on this one wouldnt put it past Dinny.

He had a cartlidge operation on his knee anywhere from 4-6 weeks is the usual time frame. Funny the soccer dogs werent reaching for their pockets to pay for the op, wonder who footed the bill at the finish?

So if a player is injured at the start of the year he cant be brought back on to the panel when he's fit again????  Wise up NAG !  What about Campbell and Donnelly or is this 'rule' exclusively for LW ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on May 17, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:41 AM
It would be the worst thing they could do for team morale bringing LW back into the fold now. The team have been training away well most of them have and would be a massive disruption to introduce player or players who havent been there all year. But on this one wouldnt put it past Dinny.

He had a cartlidge operation on his knee anywhere from 4-6 weeks is the usual time frame. Funny the soccer dogs werent reaching for their pockets to pay for the op, wonder who footed the bill at the finish?

So if a player is injured at the start of the year he cant be brought back on to the panel when he's fit again????  Wise up NAG !  What about Campbell and Donnelly or is this 'rule' exclusively for LW ?

What you mean fit to play up to Feb and then not fit? Define fit for me then, a lad who picks and chooses. My point is that at his best he isnt great for morale and in general I wouldnt be in favour of bringing anyone back in at this stage who hasnt been about the squad all year. Hippy has been and JC has been an ever present with no hassle or begging to be there. So yeah he has created the rule for himself by his attitude to the county squad and if that is wrong then he has brought it on himself.

What would it say to CMcC after his performance last weekend to drop him to the bench in favour of LW, backward step in all ways IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 17, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on May 17, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2011, 08:29:41 AM
It would be the worst thing they could do for team morale bringing LW back into the fold now. The team have been training away well most of them have and would be a massive disruption to introduce player or players who havent been there all year. But on this one wouldnt put it past Dinny.

He had a cartlidge operation on his knee anywhere from 4-6 weeks is the usual time frame. Funny the soccer dogs werent reaching for their pockets to pay for the op, wonder who footed the bill at the finish?

So if a player is injured at the start of the year he cant be brought back on to the panel when he's fit again????  Wise up NAG !  What about Campbell and Donnelly or is this 'rule' exclusively for LW ?

What you mean fit to play up to Feb and then not fit? Define fit for me then, a lad who picks and chooses. My point is that at his best he isnt great for morale and in general I wouldnt be in favour of bringing anyone back in at this stage who hasnt been about the squad all year. Hippy has been and JC has been an ever present with no hassle or begging to be there. So yeah he has created the rule for himself by his attitude to the county squad and if that is wrong then he has brought it on himself.

What would it say to CMcC after his performance last weekend to drop him to the bench in favour of LW, backward step in all ways IMO.

Totally agree with NAG - it would be a step back to bring this man in at this stage.

Antrim must move on from this boy. He never really delivered much on the Antrim scene anyways. Neil McManus has been a far more consistent performer for Antrim than LW.
Look after the crop of committed young players that we have at the minute and we will reep the rewards in the not to distant future.
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on May 16, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
What's the story with Liam Watson ?  Is he injured ?
He had an op on May 6th. He said that basically depending on how it goes he'll either be ok or maybe have to hang the boots up.

This is crap. There was no operation as no one was willing to pay for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
Insightful stuff onthehill. It's so sad to see the begrudgery of some spewing forth on this site, but then again, should we expect anything else?

He's had his operation and is on the mend.

What was that other fantastic quote? oh yeah: "He never really delivered much on the Antrim scene anyways."

Apart from his All-star nominating 6 points from play performance against Cork in Croke Park, I take it you mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Look lets not go over old ground on this. Dinny is picking the team and he does have a liking for Liam, of that we have no doubt, also anyone on here who says he's not a gifted hurler doesn't know his hurling.

Which comes to the other thing(s), temperament, commitment, and attitude.

Seamroga if you were a Club/County manager would you have a player on the team who was brilliant but you had to chase him all the time, treat him differently, never really know if he was going to turn up and be committed, doesn't show attitude, leadership and positivity?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Look lets not go over old ground on this. Dinny is picking the team and he does have a liking for Liam, of that we have no doubt, also we anyone on here who says he's not a gifted hurler doesn't know his hurling.

Which comes to the other thing(s), temperament, commitment, and attitude.

Seamroga if you were a Club/County manager would you have a player on the team who was brilliant but you had to chase him all the time, treat him differently, never really know if he was going to turn up and be committed, doesn't show attitude, leadership and positivity?
A lot of what is written and spoken about winker is justified. An awful lot more is utter tripe. If you truly know Liam you would know that he's dealing with a lot of other things in his life which are much more important than hurling or soccer. Whenever his mind is right he's one of the best trainers around, I mean, just take a look at his fitness. I'm sure you've noticed just how athletic he is. You don't get like that without dedication. And of course whenever he is on the field he comes in for some very special treatment from whatever opposition he faces without the full protection of the referee most of the time. He does have a short fuse, but again, this past year he improved dramatically as far as discipline goes. I believe the sending off against cork was his only blemish. (considering the type of gib that Gardiner was throwing  at him through out that game I can understand why he lost it.)

Also he's not getting any younger. This time around he's waiting until he feels fully fit before returning to hurling.

And to answer your question, If I had someone of the talent of Watson in my squad he'd be in the first 15 every time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2011, 06:43:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2011, 06:00:01 PM
Look lets not go over old ground on this. Dinny is picking the team and he does have a liking for Liam, of that we have no doubt, also we anyone on here who says he's not a gifted hurler doesn't know his hurling.

Which comes to the other thing(s), temperament, commitment, and attitude.

Seamroga if you were a Club/County manager would you have a player on the team who was brilliant but you had to chase him all the time, treat him differently, never really know if he was going to turn up and be committed, doesn't show attitude, leadership and positivity?
A lot of what is written and spoken about winker is justified. An awful lot more is utter tripe. If you truly know Liam you would know that he's dealing with a lot of other things in his life which are much more important than hurling or soccer. Whenever his mind is right he's one of the best trainers around, I mean, just take a look at his fitness. I'm sure you've noticed just how athletic he is. You don't get like that without dedication. And of course whenever he is on the field he comes in for some very special treatment from whatever opposition he faces without the full protection of the referee most of the time. He does have a short fuse, but again, this past year he improved dramatically as far as discipline goes. I believe the sending off against cork was his only blemish. (considering the type of gib that Gardiner was throwing  at him through out that game I can understand why he lost it.)

Also he's not getting any younger. This time around he's waiting until he feels fully fit before returning to hurling.

And to answer your question, If I had someone of the talent of Watson in my squad he'd be in the first 15 every time.

That's fair enough, very difficult for managers to not play lads that can win games almost single handed. But I wouldn't myself. I'm crap at the man management of 'special' talents, either you want to commit and train like the rest or you don't play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.


All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
It was pretty successful last season.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
It was pretty successful last season.   ;)

One swallow doesn't make a summer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
It was pretty successful last season.   ;)

One swallow doesn't make a summer
No, but one point does win a championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
It was pretty successful last season.   ;)

One swallow doesn't make a summer
No, but one point does win a championship.

one championship doesn't make a career
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 18, 2011, 08:46:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 17, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Come on Seamroga get real, we all have shit to deal with. Yes he was something else against Cork last year, an incredible performance but which buttons need to be pressed for him to deliver like that, must be like the holy grail for Dinny and PJ both.
Not a leader and won't be led is the nub of it for me.
Yes, we all do, to a certain level. Some people have a lot more "shit" to deal with though. I'm not going to go into personal details here but suffice to say he's had it tough enough.

He has felt nothing but pressure since he began getting noticed about 15 or so years ago. I blame our own supporters (shamrocks) for the vast majority of it. The fella can't go for a night out  elsewhere either but some p***k is at him about something he has allegedly said about their club or one of their players. You see it all over this board and others as well. Mainly by people who've never said two words to him. I just wonder what you would think if he was one of your clubs' players.

And don't forget he's been playing injured since the Dunloy semi final last year. I don't blame him for sitting out a while.

Btw, how many great players of any sport do you know that have been easy led?  The ones that have stood out have mainly been mavericks.

The truth of the matter is any of the clubs in Antrim would love winker as one of their own. And the more rubbish I see spouted on forums like this the more I believe it.
All this and he was still Ulster hurler of the year.   ;)

No fella I don't buy that one. One mans does not make a team, it's the squad, the management team,families and supporters etc,etc and for it to work and be successful,everyone has to fit or align themselves with the group. How does a fella who can win you  a game but equally could cost you a game fit into that system.It's an awful shame but he's not alone as 2 of the McGourtys would be in that boat as well. Always hoped he would mature out of it, time yet I suppose.
It was pretty successful last season.   ;)

One swallow doesn't make a summer
No, but one point does win a championship.

one championship doesn't make a career
There's plenty of time for plenty more.

And they all come out from under the begrudgery bush from whence they dwell.

It's pretty pathetic really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 11:31:38 PM
I don't think any of my posts were pathetic. Just stating that to date, for all his 'talent', his career hasn't been that fruitful. Ask DD, Johnny Campbell etc are they happy with just one medal over the last decade. And here's hope they finish with just that one  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:27:02 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 11:31:38 PM
I don't think any of my posts were pathetic. Just stating that to date, for all his 'talent', his career hasn't been that fruitful. Ask DD, Johnny Campbell etc are they happy with just one medal over the last decade. And here's hope they finish with just that one  ;)
I reckon they'll be finishing with more than just one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 19, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
I wouldn't begrudge them to those fellas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
What happened to Ballycastle on Sunday anyone?

Bit of a hefty defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
What happened to Ballycastle on Sunday anyone?

Bit of a hefty defeat.

I hear the entire panel was out winged in the Castle Bar the night before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
So you wouldnt give Rossa any credit then Steve?

See they beat gorts there last night aswell, perhaps improving with games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
So you wouldnt give Rossa any credit then Steve?

See they beat gorts there last night aswell, perhaps improving with games.

No, I think Ballycastle need to amalgamate with Carey to be a force again

Pure luck Rossa won by such a margin all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
I sense sarcasm Steve!

If they had won by 1 or 2, it may have been luck - but come on 9 pionts isnt really luck.

Although from what i have seen of Rossa, Ballycastle must have been below their best alright.

Did they have anyone missing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
I sense sarcasm Steve!

If they had won by 1 or 2, it may have been luck - but come on 9 pionts isnt really luck.

Although from what i have seen of Rossa, Ballycastle must have been below their best alright.

Did they have anyone missing?

As i say there was a rip on in the Castle bar and then half the crowd moved on to the Anzac after for a lock in. Even then I hear rossa only took the game with the aid of a stiff breeze.

Ballycastle could do with joining the Faughs, they are too busy harkening back to the glory days of the 80s and outdated training methods. Running up Knocklayde with weights tied to the ankles is not condusive to the physical demands of the modern game. IMO they should look no further than their neighbours in Carey who are leading the way in professional era preparation, sources tell me part of their pre season involved the use of the Nintendo Wii Fit console to aid the development of hand-eye coordination. Its this kind of innovation and 'thinking outside the box' that will see teams succeed over the coming seasons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 19, 2011, 02:51:12 PM
HAHAHAHA

Thanks Steve.  That's the best laugh I've had in 10 years.

I think you need to lay off that whiskey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 19, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
So you wouldnt give Rossa any credit then Steve?

See they beat gorts there last night aswell, perhaps improving with games.

No, I think Ballycastle need to amalgamate with Carey to be a force again

Pure luck Rossa won by such a margin all the same

LOL if it wasnt for your username...i'd take you serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 19, 2011, 03:31:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:27:02 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 11:31:38 PM
I don't think any of my posts were pathetic. Just stating that to date, for all his 'talent', his career hasn't been that fruitful. Ask DD, Johnny Campbell etc are they happy with just one medal over the last decade. And here's hope they finish with just that one  ;)
I reckon they'll be finishing with more than just one.

But would those boys be happy with just the one over the last number of years (whether they finish with one or 5)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 19, 2011, 03:31:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:27:02 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 18, 2011, 11:31:38 PM
I don't think any of my posts were pathetic. Just stating that to date, for all his 'talent', his career hasn't been that fruitful. Ask DD, Johnny Campbell etc are they happy with just one medal over the last decade. And here's hope they finish with just that one  ;)
I reckon they'll be finishing with more than just one.

But would those boys be happy with just the one over the last number of years (whether they finish with one or 5)
Of course not. Were Dunloy happy for 80 years or the Dall for 70?

A lot of players within Loughgiel have a lot to answer for for the past 20 years or so, not just winker. I mean, we were relegated ffs! long before Liam was around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
I sense sarcasm Steve!

If they had won by 1 or 2, it may have been luck - but come on 9 pionts isnt really luck.

Although from what i have seen of Rossa, Ballycastle must have been below their best alright.

Did they have anyone missing?

Did you watch Rossa against St Galls Dearyme?  Thought that was their worst ever performance, and against a weakened and young Galls team.

But to their credit they have upped their game and beaten the two teams at the top, Ballycastle and Gorts.

I think we only need to win a couple of games to be safe from dropping down to Div 3. Two teams get the boot this year so it will be tight at the bottom.

Think Glenarm and A N other will be relegated, hope its not us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 20, 2011, 09:43:05 AM
No Miltown, heard good reports about that match, although a few names playing for Galls i have never heard of to be honest.
Was up at Lamhs for their first game, Rossa didnt impress me then. But to be fair to Lamhs, they always looked the better team.
Disappointed they didnt win on Monday.
Think Carey will struggle to get points away from home!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on May 20, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Will the injured lads make it back for wexford game? Is neals red card going to be appealed? will winker return to the fold?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 20, 2011, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
I sense sarcasm Steve!

If they had won by 1 or 2, it may have been luck - but come on 9 pionts isnt really luck.

Although from what i have seen of Rossa, Ballycastle must have been below their best alright.

Did they have anyone missing?

As i say there was a rip on in the Castle bar and then half the crowd moved on to the Anzac after for a lock in. Even then I hear rossa only took the game with the aid of a stiff breeze.

Ballycastle could do with joining the Faughs, they are too busy harkening back to the glory days of the 80s and outdated training methods. Running up Knocklayde with weights tied to the ankles is not condusive to the physical demands of the modern game. IMO they should look no further than their neighbours in Carey who are leading the way in professional era preparation, sources tell me part of their pre season involved the use of the Nintendo Wii Fit console to aid the development of hand-eye coordination. Its this kind of innovation and 'thinking outside the box' that will see teams succeed over the coming seasons
Not getting pissed the night before a match would be more successful than ballsing about on a Nintendo Wii, but then again heavy drinking has been part of the town's training regime since the 80s too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2011, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
A lot of players within Loughgiel have a lot to answer for for the past 20 years or so, not just winker. I mean, we were relegated ffs! long before Liam was around.

There is always many many potential reasons why lean spells develop. To isolate the players only for "the blame" is a fairly ugly statement to make. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on May 20, 2011, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2011, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
A lot of players within Loughgiel have a lot to answer for for the past 20 years or so, not just winker. I mean, we were relegated ffs! long before Liam was around.

There is always many many potential reasons why lean spells develop. To isolate the players only for "the blame" is a fairly ugly statement to make.

I'd tend to agree with you Skull.  As one of those players of the last 20 years I'd have to accept part responsibility for those lean years but we (the players) shouldn't take all the blame.  A clubs success and failure is shared amongst all its members and not just the boys on the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2011, 03:00:08 PM
Dearyme, so you arent a Rossa man have watched  Lamhs, and wanted us beat the other night!! Hmmmm if your best player had have stuck over the last free then.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2011, 05:37:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2011, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
A lot of players within Loughgiel have a lot to answer for for the past 20 years or so, not just winker. I mean, we were relegated ffs! long before Liam was around.

There is always many many potential reasons why lean spells develop. To isolate the players only for "the blame" is a fairly ugly statement to make.
Indeed it is, but is it fair to single out one player for special attention as is happening to Winker on this board? It's more than his fault, indeed, i don't think it's anything to do with him that those other players mentioned in previous posts haven't got more medals. That is my point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2011, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on May 20, 2011, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2011, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2011, 06:38:11 PM
A lot of players within Loughgiel have a lot to answer for for the past 20 years or so, not just winker. I mean, we were relegated ffs! long before Liam was around.

There is always many many potential reasons why lean spells develop. To isolate the players only for "the blame" is a fairly ugly statement to make.

I'd tend to agree with you Skull.  As one of those players of the last 20 years I'd have to accept part responsibility for those lean years but we (the players) shouldn't take all the blame.  A clubs success and failure is shared amongst all its members and not just the boys on the pitch.
No one was blaming just the players. What I said was "A lot of players within loughgiel have a lot to answer for". I am one of them. A statement of fact really.

What's more important is that PJ seems to have brought a freshness to the club as a whole. Not before time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 22, 2011, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 21, 2011, 10:39:08 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on May 19, 2011, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 19, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
What happened to Ballycastle on Sunday anyone?

Bit of a hefty defeat.

I hear the entire panel was out winged in the Castle Bar the night before
O'Connors, actually:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7kdKJuml4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7kdKJuml4&feature=related)
It'll never be O'Connors to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 23, 2011, 12:09:24 AM
Cnapán
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 23, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
chances this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2011, 12:48:38 PM
Players coming back from injuries, suspensions and debutants having made an impression last week bodes well for an otherwise daunting trip to Wexford.

Wexford are no world beaters but have had the measure over Antrim in Championship. We hammered them in Dunloy in the league a few years ago and the Wexford team is not much different from then.

Having wrote them off last time (well sort of) I think Antrim will go down in better spirits than before, hopefully knowing they can beat Wexford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 24, 2011, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: pullhard on May 20, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Will the injured lads make it back for wexford game? Is neals red card going to be appealed? will winker return to the fold?

According to (an article - not the forum) on Hoganstand, Hippy, Shane and Eddie are all available for Sunday.

Think it would be important to have Hippy back, particularly if Wexford play Banville in at full forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
would be great to have a Hippy back for that game, Banville is a beast of a guy who runs at ya when he has the ball.

Whats the best position for Shane on the Antrim team? Dinny has played him everywhere bar defence. too good a player not to be playing and if playing corner forward i don't think he gets enough ball down one wing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 25, 2011, 09:22:57 AM
Must be frustrating for him - Shane is a quality player, although has his moments.
As said, cant leave him out.
Hippy being back is crucial though , he has been training well by all accounts, lets hope hes ready!
looking forward to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2011, 06:55:12 PM
This game could be a lot closer than what the bookies think, we are plus 6, and though Wexford played in a higher league this year i don't (hope)think it will matter come throw in time. Good start required, (unlike last game) would give the lads confidence and the chance to win.  2-14 to 2-15 Antrim win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on May 25, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
Wexford V Antrim


1 Christopher O Connell

2 Christopher McGuinness
3 Cormac Donnelly
4 Kevin Molloy

5 Aaron Graffin
6 Michael Herron
7 Ciaran Herron

8 Paul Shiels
9 Barry McFall

10 Simon McRory
11 Karl Stewart
12 Neil McManus

13 Conor McCann
14 Darren Hamill
15 Eddie McCloskey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2011, 09:14:24 PM
Decent team with plenty of strength in the right areas, Good to see Hippy back in and Neil further outfield, very strong half forward line and equally strong half back line.

good platform to go on and win match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
Looks like a strong enough team. Good to see Donnelly back especially if there's a big man in full forward. Him and Banville (it is Banville isn't it?) would be a ding-dong battle.

Very strong half forward line we have there - the FF line perhaps a little light however I guess a few guys can alternate.

Wexford will fully expect to win this game and, to be honest, to a lot of people it would be a big shock if we win this but I think we can do it. Games like this are why we're in Leinster. When we played Wexford last and they, barely, beat us they had a full championship campaign at that intensity they talk about and we had nothing - this time we're on an even keel in that regard bar the division one thing but league hurling isn't the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
I suppose with Shane on the bench he's great to come on as a impact sub, Wish i was heading down, have a christening (I'm Godfather) on the Sunday so i'm booked!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on May 26, 2011, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
I suppose with Shane on the bench he's great to come on as a impact sub, Wish i was heading down, have a christening (I'm Godfather) on the Sunday so i'm booked!!

From What i here shanes not 100% and may not be able to attend on sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2011, 11:21:16 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on May 26, 2011, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
I suppose with Shane on the bench he's great to come on as a impact sub, Wish i was heading down, have a christening (I'm Godfather) on the Sunday so i'm booked!!

From What i here shanes not 100% and may not be able to attend on sunday

Well that's disappointing for Shane and Antrim, I hope he gets better soon as he really is a quality player when fully fit and in form.

Still think we can do well here regardless, I hope it's online somewhere, Christening on at one so I'll be finished early enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 27, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
N Breen

P Roche
M O'Hanlon
K Rossiter

L Prendergast
C Kenny
M Jacob

W Doran
D Redmond

PJ Nolan
H Kehoe
S Banville

R Jacob
E Martin
J Berry

Team to play Antrim - will Banville play out there?  I think he will, plenty of scores from this team. Although perhaps average 1 goal a game in national league.
Will be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 27, 2011, 03:35:11 PM
Looks like the county website is being tortured by the old "referee" chestnut again, Cathal Mc Allister (Cork Referee- but not in the true sense) can at times be very unpredictable to say the least usually behind the play most of the time so we shouldn't go looking for the easy free as he won't be there to call properly, our lads need to be able to accept the physicality of the game however on the day depending on cathals mood it may suit us, Wexford are extremely fast on the first time ball into the f forwards, and if we can't deal with that then I don't hold out much hope, they tend to by pass the 3/4 line as much as possible and rely on the 2 corner backs playing a supporting role to the half back line. Don't think midfield is really going to matter in this one although both Wexford midfield lads fancy themselves as forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 27, 2011, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 27, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
N Breen

P Roche
M O'Hanlon
K Rossiter

L Prendergast
C Kenny
M Jacob

W Doran
D Redmond

PJ Nolan
H Kehoe
S Banville

R Jacob
E Martin
J Berry

Team to play Antrim - will Banville play out there?  I think he will, plenty of scores from this team. Although perhaps average 1 goal a game in national league.
Will be interesting.

Maybe Banville will be to Wex what Neil McManus is to Antrim and operate between full forward and the half forward line when needed. Darren Stamp could be a big miss for them at centre half unless he makes one of them miracle recoveries that players can make between the team being named and the match.

As for Antrim some players, namely McGuinness and McCann, started off championship hurling well against Laois so hopefully thay can go on to enhance their reputations on Sunday. And if Karl Stewart and Neil McManus can start off where they left off against Laois we could be winning a lot of ball in the half forward line which will give us a chance. However the way Wex finished the league coupled with home advantage points me in the direction of a home win but hopefully Antrim can prove me wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2011, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 27, 2011, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 27, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
N Breen

P Roche
M O'Hanlon
K Rossiter

L Prendergast
C Kenny
M Jacob

W Doran
D Redmond

PJ Nolan
H Kehoe
S Banville

R Jacob
E Martin
J Berry

Team to play Antrim - will Banville play out there?  I think he will, plenty of scores from this team. Although perhaps average 1 goal a game in national league.
Will be interesting.

Maybe Banville will be to Wex what Neil McManus is to Antrim and operate between full forward and the half forward line when needed. Darren Stamp could be a big miss for them at centre half unless he makes one of them miracle recoveries that players can make between the team being named and the match.

As for Antrim some players, namely McGuinness and McCann, started off championship hurling well against Laois so hopefully thay can go on to enhance their reputations on Sunday. And if Karl Stewart and Neil McManus can start off where they left off against Laois we could be winning a lot of ball in the half forward line which will give us a chance. However the way Wex finished the league coupled with home advantage points me in the direction of a home win but hopefully Antrim can prove me wrong.

Yes Wexford finished the league better than they started, so they are coming into this game with form but Antrim have had a championship game behind them already and a tough auld game against Laois in their own backyard, so it won't be because they are playing Wexford in their own pitch that they will lose.

I feel if we get enough ball into that half forward line then those lads will get a right few scores. they are heading down on the Saturday night (tonight) and will be well rested come tomorrow.

Big start needed and we can go into this game with no real fear and a chance to play Kilkenny at Croke park. The more games we get at this level the more chance we have of improving. If Antrim have a good championship run then we should push on for a promotion into league one next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
Bad result in the end. Two point game at half time!! Hammered second half and only scored 3 points in 35 mins!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 29, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Why was Karl McKeegan not playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2011, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 29, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Why was Karl McKeegan not playing?

Didn't play the last game? Doubt you're really worried about Karl!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 29, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2011, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 29, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Why was Karl McKeegan not playing?

Didn't play the last game? Doubt you're really worried about Karl!!

Not particularly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on May 29, 2011, 10:48:41 PM
Another fecking CAR CRASH of a performance.. ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 30, 2011, 07:31:10 PM
2nd half must have been awful. Surprising considering Antrim had the breeze in their favour. Any idea's why the keeper was changed at the last minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 30, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
Chrissy O'Connell and Conor Carson were dropped after attending the concert at Slane and were told shortly before the start.

Think there was a bit of a heated argument in the changing room and thats why Antrim took the field a bit late.

Hawes at fault for the free which led to the 1st Wexford goal. He was blown up for overcarrying beyond the 21 with a couple of Wexford lads around him instead of kicking it away.

Antrim could not deal with the high ball in the 2nd half. Wexford midfielders and half backs caught at least a dozen dropping balls. Antrim's catching was poor enough yesterday. Wexford then began to move the ball around well, finding men in space who then had a simple enough task of putting the ball over the bar. The last 15 minutes resembled a glorified challenge match.

On South East Radio Colm Bonner attributed the Wexford performance to the experience gained playing Division 1 hurling. Dinny was asked the same question regarding a possible push for promotion and stated if Antrim were in Division 1 it would require several overnight stays as they would be playing southern teams and his young panel have wives and girlfriends etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 30, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
I had heard this might have been the case. I thought they were heading down on Saturday night so how was it only left to the last minute that Chrissy was dropped (not saying I disagree with the decision)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 30, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
Chrissy O'Connell and Conor Carson were dropped after attending the concert at Slane and were told shortly before the start.

Think there was a bit of a heated argument in the changing room and thats why Antrim took the field a bit late.

Hawes at fault for the free which led to the 1st Wexford goal. He was blown up for overcarrying beyond the 21 with a couple of Wexford lads around him instead of kicking it away.

Antrim could not deal with the high ball in the 2nd half. Wexford midfielders and half backs caught at least a dozen dropping balls. Antrim's catching was poor enough yesterday. Wexford then began to move the ball around well, finding men in space who then had a simple enough task of putting the ball over the bar. The last 15 minutes resembled a glorified challenge match.

On South East Radio Colm Bonner attributed the Wexford performance to the experience gained playing Division 1 hurling. Dinny was asked the same question regarding a possible push for promotion and stated if Antrim were in Division 1 it would require several overnight stays as they would be playing southern teams and his young panel have wives and girlfriends etc.



What a load of balls!!! Is Dinny for real? Ya can't be settling for second division. Unbelievable statement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 31, 2011, 05:59:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 30, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
Chrissy O'Connell and Conor Carson were dropped after attending the concert at Slane and were told shortly before the start.

Think there was a bit of a heated argument in the changing room and thats why Antrim took the field a bit late.

Hawes at fault for the free which led to the 1st Wexford goal. He was blown up for overcarrying beyond the 21 with a couple of Wexford lads around him instead of kicking it away.

Antrim could not deal with the high ball in the 2nd half. Wexford midfielders and half backs caught at least a dozen dropping balls. Antrim's catching was poor enough yesterday. Wexford then began to move the ball around well, finding men in space who then had a simple enough task of putting the ball over the bar. The last 15 minutes resembled a glorified challenge match.

On South East Radio Colm Bonner attributed the Wexford performance to the experience gained playing Division 1 hurling. Dinny was asked the same question regarding a possible push for promotion and stated if Antrim were in Division 1 it would require several overnight stays as they would be playing southern teams and his young panel have wives and girlfriends etc.



What a load of balls!!! Is Dinny for real? Ya can't be settling for second division. Unbelievable statement

Isn't he just stating the facts of what most of the squad will live with. The 2 boys heading to Slane is a perfect example and a "F*ck you Dinny" move without a doubt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 06:23:24 AM
Are any of you really surprised by this result?  And without trying to belittle the effort any of the lads that turn up put in towards training etc I'm afraid that when a team constantly plays hurlers of junior or intermediate standard that's what you're going to get. I wonder why more fellas from Loughgiel and Dunloy aren't turning up for Antrim. Is there something going on behind closed doors that we don't know about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 31, 2011, 08:09:42 AM
Milltown, that's what Dinny said when interviewed on South East Radio after the match. i was amazed at his defeatist attitude and then concluded it was no real surprise that Antrim were horsed out of it in the second half.

Dinny in the Irish News today stated again that he wouldnt be too sure if a season in Division 1 would have helped as they would have been outmuscled. I think he contradicts himself when he states, 'What you try to do is to get up to a good level of hurling and become competitive and hope it will come all right in the championship' If thats the attitude of management then why even bother ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 06:23:24 AM
Are any of you really surprised by this result?  And without trying to belittle the effort any of the lads that turn up put in towards training etc I'm afraid that when a team constantly plays hurlers of junior or intermediate standard that's what you're going to get. I wonder why more fellas from Loughgiel and Dunloy aren't turning up for Antrim. Is there something going on behind closed doors that we don't know about?

That is nonsense. From what I can see bar maybe one or two (which you get in any county)as many Loughgiel and Dunloy players are on that team / panel as should be on it. You could quote large numbers of players from successful setups who have come from junior / intermediate teams.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
Ok we came up against a team that we should really be competitive against and failed to turn our wind advantage into something closer than what was intended. I can except defeat in games were the effort was there and in this game against the breeze that was certainly the case. Going in at half time 2 down seemed very positive.

But i can't except the collapse and the attitude of Dinny after the game. Seamroga in exile I won't except your junior intermediate tripe. At least these lads are showing commitment. I firmly believe Loughgiel will be concentrating on getting back to the All Semi Final this year so their commitment may lie elsewhere. Karl Stewart would walk onto any division one team as would McGuinness Herron and most of the rest non division one players.

A few weeks to the ulster final and i hope we improve before the qualifiers, could end up getting Cork :o :o season over

As for the lads that went to Slane, I'd drop them for the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 31, 2011, 09:07:39 AM
Boys you cant have it both ways.

Praising Dinny for playing these young boys when they get a good result and then hammering him when they get beat. We all know that he is off the wall and is deflecting the criticism with the BS answer he gave about wives and girl friends. He is never to worried about this side of things before. Anyone who knows him will testify to that.

Thing is that Wexford are a better side than laois and playing them in their backyard was never going to be easy. Maybe more experience would have counted but we will never know.

I would expect the boys who went to slane on saturday to be kicking their heels for the rest of the year, what kind of mentality is that to go there the day before the game of your season.l
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
19 scores from 70 minutes of hurling is pretty standard for decent opposition regardless of how fearless the defense is at this time of year (e.g cork v tipp or dublin v offally). 12 scores tells us where we are in the forward department. We haven't developed the cuteness inside or the awareness out the pitch to deliver quality ball to get us up to the scoring rate that is needed. Hurlers like Joe Deane and Rory Jacob are those type of players who could/can break your heart because they are unmarkable WHEN you have you have players out the pitch who (when given time to) focus on getting quality delivery into the space they have created for themselves. In Antrim it's all blood and guts, which sometimes works but it doesn't gaurentee enough scores IMO. This needs to be developed into development squads as I don't think it can be resolved today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2011, 10:29:56 AM
hey lads lets not get to hung up on what Dinny said, he was asked at a time when the teams second half performance just didn't make any sense. Hes not a politician or broadcaster

as for the match why did so many of our players go  AWOL when wexford where there for the taking. I lost count of the times our boys stood off there men and watch them catch high balls. I have been to all the games this year and we didint hurl for 70 minutes in any of them. We haven't a strong panel but they have showed some good hurling but only in spurts. Need a bit more consistansy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2011, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
19 scores from 70 minutes of hurling is pretty standard for decent opposition regardless of how fearless the defense is at this time of year (e.g cork v tipp or dublin v offally). 12 scores tells us where we are in the forward department. We haven't developed the cuteness inside or the awareness out the pitch to deliver quality ball to get us up to the scoring rate that is needed. Hurlers like Joe Deane and Rory Jacob are those type of players who could/can break your heart because they are unmarkable WHEN you have you have players out the pitch who (when given time to) focus on getting quality delivery into the space they have created for themselves. In Antrim it's all blood and guts, which sometimes works but it doesn't gaurentee enough scores IMO. This needs to be developed into development squads as I don't think it can be resolved today or tomorrow.

This is the best post on this subject so far highlighting one of our biggest problems. Jacob was pulling his marker all over the place, timming it that when the ball was coming in he had himself some space. and as skull says he was getting good deliveries. our forwards are to stagnant at times. young mc cann does well when in space but cant win 50/50 ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 31, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
The game has changed completely in the last couple of years, gone are the days when you just thump the ball in long 50/50, even KK have adapted it and play it more to their own advantage. The cork tipp game showed it is now a possession game, every player has to be comfortable on the ball and able to pick those twenty thirty yard 'easy' passes to move up the field. We have very few players who get their head up enough to play those types of passes even at club level were the pace is considerably slower.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2011, 10:38:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
19 scores from 70 minutes of hurling is pretty standard for decent opposition regardless of how fearless the defense is at this time of year (e.g cork v tipp or dublin v offally). 12 scores tells us where we are in the forward department. We haven't developed the cuteness inside or the awareness out the pitch to deliver quality ball to get us up to the scoring rate that is needed. Hurlers like Joe Deane and Rory Jacob are those type of players who could/can break your heart because they are unmarkable WHEN you have you have players out the pitch who (when given time to) focus on getting quality delivery into the space they have created for themselves. In Antrim it's all blood and guts, which sometimes works but it doesn't gaurentee enough scores IMO. This needs to be developed into development squads as I don't think it can be resolved today or tomorrow.

This is the best post on this subject so far highlighting one of our biggest problems. Jacob was pulling his marker all over the place, timming it that when the ball was coming in he had himself some space. and as skull says he was getting good deliveries. our forwards are to stagnant at times. young mc cann does well when in space but cant win 50/50 ball.

So was Jacob winning 50/50 ball or getting the ball in space?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 12:35:30 PM
Who was markin Jacob? For guys of that calibre Graffin really is the man for the job. I think we lack a bit in corner back usually for players that good. Guys like O'Callaghan and Jacob usually go to town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 31, 2011, 01:22:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 12:35:30 PM
Who was markin Jacob? For guys of that calibre Graffin really is the man for the job. I think we lack a bit in corner back usually for players that good. Guys like O'Callaghan and Jacob usually go to town.

Its near on impossible to mark a decent forward like Jacob if their defence has time to pick him out. The pressure needs to be applied from No 15 back, so that their defenders are under pressure and not bursting past their men to deliver quality ball. If you can stop a defender bursting past you then its more likely that any clearance they make will be when they're going backwards and hence any clearance is likely to be higher allowing your own defence a better chance to challenge for the ball.

Its an aspect of forward play (all all players IMO) seriously underestimated by those in coaching circles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 02:56:42 PM
Yes

And the point is that Antrim don't YET have the composure to play quality ball in enough AND/OR they don't have the forward play/players that create the situations for quality ball to be just that (i.e quality ball instead of a 50/50 ball). An intelligent forward line will have players who keep their marker on their toes. They may not touch the ball but their movement has created chances for others and they will know their role in scores where they didn't get a sniff of the leather. Defense as JC says starts from way out the pitch. If you stop giving time on the ball then you at least give the defense a fighting chance if deliveries are rushed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 03:20:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 02:56:42 PM
Yes

And the point is that Antrim don't YET have the composure to play quality ball in enough AND/OR they don't have the forward play/players that create the situations for quality ball to be just that (i.e quality ball instead of a 50/50 ball). An intelligent forward line will have players who keep their marker on their toes. They may not touch the ball but their movement has created chances for others and they will know their role in scores where they didn't get a sniff of the leather. Defense as JC says starts from way out the pitch. If you stop giving time on the ball then you at least give the defense a fighting chance if deliveries are rushed.

Is that how you won so many balls? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2011, 04:06:26 PM
miltown the only time 50/50 ball was mentioned in my post was in relation to mc cann. kevin molloy was picking jacob up(just in case you didnt travel down on sunday) and he did o k when he was standing beside him. but jacob was usually on the move. how ever was making the delivierie hit the ball in to the corner when jacob wasnt even there but he knew exactly where it was going the minute it left the weford players hurl and stole a yard. JB and skull are making very valid points on what when wrong on sunday maybe you should do the same instead of nitpicking other posters comments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 31, 2011, 04:19:13 PM
Who's the black haired lad, he looks familiar?

(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/inpho_00516420.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 04:48:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
Ok we came up against a team that we should really be competitive against and failed to turn our wind advantage into something closer than what was intended. I can except defeat in games were the effort was there and in this game against the breeze that was certainly the case. Going in at half time 2 down seemed very positive.

But i can't except the collapse and the attitude of Dinny after the game. Seamroga in exile I won't except your junior intermediate tripe. At least these lads are showing commitment. I firmly believe Loughgiel will be concentrating on getting back to the All Semi Final this year so their commitment may lie elsewhere. Karl Stewart would walk onto any division one team as would McGuinness Herron and most of the rest non division one players.

A few weeks to the ulster final and i hope we improve before the qualifiers, could end up getting Cork :o :o season over

As for the lads that went to Slane, I'd drop them for the year
I think if you take a look back at my post I did mention that. I disagree with you on the junior/intermediate thing, such is life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 08:55:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 06:23:24 AM
Are any of you really surprised by this result?  And without trying to belittle the effort any of the lads that turn up put in towards training etc I'm afraid that when a team constantly plays hurlers of junior or intermediate standard that's what you're going to get. I wonder why more fellas from Loughgiel and Dunloy aren't turning up for Antrim. Is there something going on behind closed doors that we don't know about?

That is nonsense. From what I can see bar maybe one or two (which you get in any county)as many Loughgiel and Dunloy players are on that team / panel as should be on it. You could quote large numbers of players from successful setups who have come from junior / intermediate teams.
You could quote a few, exceptional hurlers maybe, from stronger hurling counties, not from Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
Cloot wasn't, apart from one year, from a senior club.

Brendan Prenter has been one of our more decent keepers over the last 20 years and wasn't from a senior club.

The Herrons aren't really from a senior club either. Ciaran has been a great hurler for Antrim. Micko possibly not quite that level but not bad.

I'm sure there are more examples too.

All of the above would have got on the Loughgiel / Cushendall / Dunloy / Ballycastle teams in their given primes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 05:52:06 PM
Junior/Intermediatte players mustn't like the kings of leon

I think these players show better commitment as it is a priviage to represent your county if you're from a lower level club side. If a player has ability he should not be curtailed by which club he is a member of. Blind snobbery from SinE unless he can back it up with a bit of detail of who from div1 clubs who are prepared to commit properly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
NAH I didn't nitpick your post I highlighted that part and asked the question. You answered cheers. As for the rest, i'm sure over the years I've been to as many games as you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
Cloot wasn't, apart from one year, from a senior club.

Brendan Prenter has been one of our more decent keepers over the last 20 years and wasn't from a senior club.

The Herrons aren't really from a senior club either. Ciaran has been a great hurler for Antrim. Micko possibly not quite that level but not bad.

I'm sure there are more examples too.

All of the above would have got on the Loughgiel / Cushendall / Dunloy / Ballycastle teams in their given primes.
Four, possibly 5, exceptions to the what I was saying. Listen, if they're good enough, play them. In my opinion they aren't. Maybe young McCann can be the exception of this generation.

It's ok to have a different point of view you know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 05:52:06 PM
Junior/Intermediatte players mustn't like the kings of leon

I think these players show better commitment as it is a priviage to represent your county if you're from a lower level club side. If a player has ability he should not be curtailed by which club he is a member of. Blind snobbery from SinE unless he can back it up with a bit of detail of who from div1 clubs who are prepared to commit properly
You must have missed the part of my post where I wasn't questioning their commitment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
NAH I didn't nitpick your post I highlighted that part and asked the question. You answered cheers. As for the rest, i'm sure over the years I've been to as many games as you.
Probably more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
You could quote a few, exceptional hurlers maybe, from stronger hurling counties, not from Antrim.

There was the point I was arguing against Seamroga.  I understand you can have a different opinion but those 4 or 5 are as good as a lot of what we've had and that's hard to argue against.

The players now maybe you have a point but I would tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think our club stuff is as weak as it has been in the last 20/30 years.

It would do our hurling no good to have 15 from dunloy / cushendall / loughgiel and likewise 15 footballers from st galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 31, 2011, 09:05:50 PM
Jeez fellas, its all pretty depressing stuff. Was listening to it intermittently on South East Radio and when we went in at half time two points down having played into the wind, I was reasonably confident we would kick on in the second half as in the Laois game. On the contrary, having missed a couple of chances we seemed to roll over and die. If we are ever to progress, we have to be winning games like this (or at least contesting them for 70 or 75 minutes).

Then to hear the stories about Slane - I had thought (hoped) we had moved on from that sort of craic. It would seem not.

I wonder about Dinny sometimes and his lack of focus on the league - I know he is a "championship" man which is all well and good, but I think it would do Antrim the world of good to give Division 2 a real shot and get to a league final or, even better, win it and get into Division 1 for a year.

Regarding Seamroga's comments about intermediate/junior hurlers - who are the senior hurlers who:

a.) have the ability; and

b.) have the commitment,

but who are mysteriously being ignored by Dinny?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
He ignored me when I asked the same question(s) cloot so I wouldn't expect an answer cause it'll send his argument into a brick wall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
Cloot wasn't, apart from one year, from a senior club.

Brendan Prenter has been one of our more decent keepers over the last 20 years and wasn't from a senior club.

The Herrons aren't really from a senior club either. Ciaran has been a great hurler for Antrim. Micko possibly not quite that level but not bad.

I'm sure there are more examples too.

All of the above would have got on the Loughgiel / Cushendall / Dunloy / Ballycastle teams in their given primes.
Four, possibly 5, exceptions to the what I was saying. Listen, if they're good enough, play them. In my opinion they aren't. Maybe young McCann can be the exception of this generation.

It's ok to have a different point of view you know.

Are they not good enough in your opinion then? Your post is confusing, as you say four or five then say they aren't ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 31, 2011, 09:05:50 PM
Jeez fellas, its all pretty depressing stuff. Was listening to it intermittently on South East Radio and when we went in at half time two points down having played into the wind, I was reasonably confident we would kick on in the second half as in the Laois game. On the contrary, having missed a couple of chances we seemed to roll over and die. If we are ever to progress, we have to be winning games like this (or at least contesting them for 70 or 75 minutes).

Then to hear the stories about Slane - I had thought (hoped) we had moved on from that sort of craic. It would seem not.

I wonder about Dinny sometimes and his lack of focus on the league - I know he is a "championship" man which is all well and good, but I think it would do Antrim the world of good to give Division 2 a real shot and get to a league final or, even better, win it and get into Division 1 for a year.

Regarding Seamroga's comments about intermediate/junior hurlers - who are the senior hurlers who:

a.) have the ability; and

b.) have the commitment,

but who are mysteriously being ignored by Dinny?
I asked a question, I never said anything about anyone being ignored.

I didn't see your post Skull, I had know idea you were even asking me a question.

It's a sorry state of affairs if, what I read here is true, that those men who took the field on Sunday is the  best we can come up with. Obviously representing the county doesn't mean anything near as much now for senior hurlers as it did in my day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
Cloot wasn't, apart from one year, from a senior club.

Brendan Prenter has been one of our more decent keepers over the last 20 years and wasn't from a senior club.

The Herrons aren't really from a senior club either. Ciaran has been a great hurler for Antrim. Micko possibly not quite that level but not bad.

I'm sure there are more examples too.

All of the above would have got on the Loughgiel / Cushendall / Dunloy / Ballycastle teams in their given primes.
Four, possibly 5, exceptions to the what I was saying. Listen, if they're good enough, play them. In my opinion they aren't. Maybe young McCann can be the exception of this generation.

It's ok to have a different point of view you know.

Are they not good enough in your opinion then? Your post is confusing, as you say four or five then say they aren't ::)
I said earlier that one could maybe use the examples of a few exceptional junior/intermediate hurlers who have made the ranks of senior county teams and been successful. ITG quoted 4 or 5 over the last 20 years or so from Antrim. I would say that 1 of those were, in the grand scheme of things, successful. That's not a lot really, backing up what I said. It's not that confusing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2011, 09:01:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
You could quote a few, exceptional hurlers maybe, from stronger hurling counties, not from Antrim.

There was the point I was arguing against Seamroga.  I understand you can have a different opinion but those 4 or 5 are as good as a lot of what we've had and that's hard to argue against.

The players now maybe you have a point but I would tend to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think our club stuff is as weak as it has been in the last 20/30 years.

It would do our hurling no good to have 15 from dunloy / cushendall / loughgiel and likewise 15 footballers from st galls.
I bet you they would win more games though.

You'd have to select a few of the subs from St. Galls to make up the 15 though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 31, 2011, 11:10:06 PM
Well Seamroga, apart from the one or two long term injuries, that is the reality - that is the best we can come up with at the minute, in my view anyway.

Serious question, who are these players you hand in mind when you said "Obviously representing the county doesn't mean anything near as much now for senior hurlers as it did in my day?" At least the boys that played on Sunday have shown the commitment, albeit to a greater or lesser degree.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 31, 2011, 11:10:06 PM
Well Seamroga, apart from the one or two long term injuries, that is the reality - that is the best we can come up with at the minute, in my view anyway.

Serious question, who are these players you hand in mind when you said "Obviously representing the county doesn't mean anything near as much now for senior hurlers as it did in my day?" At least the boys that played on Sunday have shown the commitment, albeit to a greater or lesser degree.
I was referring to the players who are not putting themselves forward for the county from the bigger clubs. Not the ones playing.

Are the players selected or are the clubs asked to put the players forward? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2011, 11:36:47 PM
apoligies miltown i picked you up wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 11:39:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 10:52:06 PM
Obviously representing the county doesn't mean anything near as much now for senior hurlers as it did in my day.

I think those halycon days youre referring to just demanded less of the players. There have been plenty of uncommitted county panels over the years and that was more than likely happening in your day as well if you took those rose tinted glasses off. This years panel has commitment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2011, 06:37:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2011, 11:39:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 10:52:06 PM
Obviously representing the county doesn't mean anything near as much now for senior hurlers as it did in my day.

I think those halycon days youre referring to just demanded less of the players. There have been plenty of uncommitted county panels over the years and that was more than likely happening in your day as well if you took those rose tinted glasses off. This years panel has commitment.
No one is questioning the commitment skull. Sometimes a bit more than that is needed, like actual ability. And you're right, commitment was certainly less of a requirement when I was playing but then  again Antrim won more matches. I was there when they were beating the likes of Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick, Waterford et al and getting to national league semi finals. Sometimes it's hard to beat talented players. But if this, as everyone here is saying, is best of the current crop, then something is wrong.

And, by the way, my day wasn't that long ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2011, 06:39:19 AM
Just on a side note, who would be the favourites for the u21s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2011, 10:59:05 PM
I said earlier that one could maybe use the examples of a few exceptional junior/intermediate hurlers who have made the ranks of senior county teams and been successful. ITG quoted 4 or 5 over the last 20 years or so from Antrim. I would say that 1 of those were, in the grand scheme of things, successful. That's not a lot really, backing up what I said. It's not that confusing.
Define in the grand scheme of things?

In the grand scheme of things most of our senior players are not successful if you mean on the all ireland stage! 

Ciaran Herron has an all star nominee - at some level is that not successful?

When did we get to a national league semi final? We took an awful hammering by an up and coming clare team mid 90s in the quarters but that aside I don't think we have reached knock-outs in the league stages?

I don't think 15 from Dunloy/ Cushendall / Loughgiel would be any mroe successful - in fact I think they would be less so.

Incidentally on the subject of intermediate players is PJ O'Connell (who would get on the Loughgiel team might I add) injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 01, 2011, 09:24:09 AM
PJ O'C was injured and unable to turn out for county training one recent weekend, then turned out played for his club on Tuesday night after in a football game so was politely asked to leave.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 01, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
Seamroga who are the players not putting themselves forward for county?
And i hope we arent talking about age old arguments!

If i was in charge the 2 boys wouldnt wear the jersey for the rest of the season! Its indicative of the attitude and unfortunately a culture that has developed over the years since the glory days of the old system. 

Clear them out! If players want to be bit part in their committment, its not good enough - we wont progress!
Its a major committment i know, but all this jazz about yoong families and kids is 'plums'!

No different from any other lads playin in any other county.

In cork when training starts at 7.30 the boys are out on the field form 7 pucking the ball about!

Who is half an hour early for Antrim training? But more importantly who arrives whenever it suits them? Always an excuse, always something got in the way.

It could be worse though, you could be from those hurling traditions of Donegal and Fermanagh! ::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 01, 2011, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 01, 2011, 09:44:04 AM

Clear them out! If players want to be bit part in their committment, its not good enough - we wont progress!
Its a major committment i know, but all this jazz about yoong families and kids is 'plums'!

No different from any other lads playin in any other county.

In cork when training starts at 7.30 the boys are out on the field form 7 pucking the ball about!

Who is half an hour early for Antrim training? But more importantly who arrives whenever it suits them? Always an excuse, always something got in the way.

It could be worse though, you could be from those hurling traditions of Donegal and Fermanagh! ::)


Unfortunately Dearyme there are sadly not enough who have hurling in their blood. If we did we'd have coaches filling clubs up and down the land driving high quality standards into every club team. We'd have well attended juvenile matches where the vast majority of parents/family support their kids. We'd have a top notch well funded development squad structure where squads were encouiraged to do what it took to get their players the the standard of other counties. We'd have thousands at Antrim county matches. If enough parents, supporters and county board showed that it meant something then I'm sure the kids/players would commit better to it and enjoy the fact that no stone was being left unturned to get them to a standard that would make them compeditive. In Antrim we are preparing county teams for failure so we should not be surprised when poorly developed talented youngsters get to senior and we get the same results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 01, 2011, 10:26:49 AM
Fair comment skull!

Where to tonight then to see some talent?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 01, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
Just not liking the excuse culture which DC is cultivating - can we have a check on how many different excuses that we have heard for the weekend so far...

answers on a post card please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on June 01, 2011, 02:13:43 PM
All Valid points above , as for having a go at the current crop of boys we have wearing the saffron jersey they are all very talented hurlers but we are leaps and bounds behind any other southern county.. The work doesnt start with these boys but the young lads dying to wear the county's colours from the ages U15.16.18's who need to be developed and get the chance to hurl against the likes of tipp,kk and cork ... Im only out of minor and i have talked to plenty of boys on the panels of my age group , and they love it , good craic etc but once all the hard training is over and the ulster title is retained , they all have it in there heads whats the point well get hammered anyway , surely this is where the work needs to be put in , not with the boys already half way through their career.

AS For chrissy and carson .... ill admit slane was fantastic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2011, 05:06:58 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 01, 2011, 10:26:49 AM
Fair comment skull!

Where to tonight then to see some talent?

I'm not playing tonight :D

But i'll be up in Ballymena on Sunday Dinny ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2011, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 01, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
Seamroga who are the players not putting themselves forward for county?
And i hope we arent talking about age old arguments!

If i was in charge the 2 boys wouldnt wear the jersey for the rest of the season! Its indicative of the attitude and unfortunately a culture that has developed over the years since the glory days of the old system. 

Clear them out! If players want to be bit part in their committment, its not good enough - we wont progress!
Its a major committment i know, but all this jazz about yoong families and kids is 'plums'!

No different from any other lads playin in any other county.

In cork when training starts at 7.30 the boys are out on the field form 7 pucking the ball about!

Who is half an hour early for Antrim training? But more importantly who arrives whenever it suits them? Always an excuse, always something got in the way.

It could be worse though, you could be from those hurling traditions of Donegal and Fermanagh! ::)
I don't know mate. I asked the illuminatti here how the squad was selected, I don't think I got an answer. I'm too far away to know exactly who deary me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 02, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 01, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
Just not liking the excuse culture which DC is cultivating - can we have a check on how many different excuses that we have heard for the weekend so far...

answers on a post card please

I don't think i would go so far to say Dinny was cultivating an excuse culture after the Wexford match. I thought on tv he just looked in a state of shock and confusion after watching the 2nd half so i wouldnt pay much attention to what he said then. Wexford maybe stepped it up a notch in the 2nd half with the benefit of Div 1 experience this year and maybe this thing of not putting in an effort in to the League is not good for Antrim but who can be sure.

Having seen Antrim this and last year i think Dinny is trying to get the players to play a more intelligent way by looking for men in the forwards and playing ball in to space. However as a few others have said here this way of playing needs to be brought in to underage develpoment squads so that by the time the players get to the senior county squad they are used to playing this way. This will take time and good underage coaching.

As for this thing about picking more players from Div 1 clubs, nonsense. Any county manager will pick the 15 players that make the best team in his opinion, not necessarily the best 15 club players. As like any other Antrim manager Dinny is trying to pick his best squad from limited resources and overall in his two spells in charge to date i think hes done a good job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 02, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
Fairhead, I agree completely but then as soon as he comes on the tv or in the papers he lets himself down by coming off with ridiculous statements.

Very few managers would and maybe he is doing it behind closed doors but maybe would be refreshing to come out and call a spade a spade after a second half performance like that. That goes for all managers not just Dinny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 02, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
Any reports on last nights games?

Easy for the town?

Lamhs gettin into stride now?

Might head to Rossa tonight!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 02, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
Any reports on last nights games?

Easy for the town?

Lamhs gettin into stride now?

Might head to Rossa tonight!

We were pushed all the way by a determinded Shane O'Neill's last night. First time in ages that it hadn't rained, but the result keeps us top and we should avoid the drop into division 3.

Ballcastle knocking up big scores so I'd say they are big favourites to head back to division 1.

Rossa seem to have got their act together and should push on up the table and maybe even push for promotion, having already beat Ballycastle by 9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2011, 02:45:50 PM
They'll be kicking themselves for that bad start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 02, 2011, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 02, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 01, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
Just not liking the excuse culture which DC is cultivating - can we have a check on how many different excuses that we have heard for the weekend so far...

answers on a post card please

I don't think i would go so far to say Dinny was cultivating an excuse culture after the Wexford match. I thought on tv he just looked in a state of shock and confusion after watching the 2nd half so i wouldnt pay much attention to what he said then. Wexford maybe stepped it up a notch in the 2nd half with the benefit of Div 1 experience this year and maybe this thing of not putting in an effort in to the League is not good for Antrim but who can be sure.

Having seen Antrim this and last year i think Dinny is trying to get the players to play a more intelligent way by looking for men in the forwards and playing ball in to space. However as a few others have said here this way of playing needs to be brought in to underage develpoment squads so that by the time the players get to the senior county squad they are used to playing this way. This will take time and good underage coaching.

As for this thing about picking more players from Div 1 clubs, nonsense. Any county manager will pick the 15 players that make the best team in his opinion, not necessarily the best 15 club players. As like any other Antrim manager Dinny is trying to pick his best squad from limited resources and overall in his two spells in charge to date i think hes done a good job.
agree with all the above accept one thing regarding wexford going up a gear. they only started to excel when they went 7 or 8 points up and sensed antrim heads starting to drop. prior to this they didn't look comfortable at all. once we missed two early frees the antrim players seem to regress. they where standing off their men second to ball compared to first half. I genuinely felt at half time that this was a real opportunity to take a big scalp for the first time in years.(last year against Dublin excluded).

agree that Dinny and the rest of the management has done a good job with the players available. until the second half on sunday there seem to be some mental steel about them that wasn't there before. I suppose considering there age they are very much a work in progress. as for the better players not on the panel and what clubs they play for debate, bit of a pointless argument as the said possibles probably have been approached and declined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2011, 11:03:11 PM
While Dinny may go a bit mad sometimes when interviewed he has done wonders with us. Compare the Dublin game 2 years ago to the Dublin game last year - he just seems to be able to get us to compete better with the southern opposition. Without Cahill we would have been destroyed by Carlow last year.

Realistically the players we have at the minute aren't the best we have had but they are still doing well. I was very disappointed with the Wexford result and more that there seemed to be a capitulation so obviously that was a disappointment but all in all we're definitely in a much better position with Cahill at the helm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 03, 2011, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2011, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 02, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
Any reports on last nights games?

Easy for the town?

Lamhs gettin into stride now?

Might head to Rossa tonight!

We were pushed all the way by a determinded Shane O'Neill's last night. First time in ages that it hadn't rained, but the result keeps us top and we should avoid the drop into division 3.

Ballcastle knocking up big scores so I'd say they are big favourites to head back to division 1.

Rossa seem to have got their act together and should push on up the table and maybe even push for promotion, having already beat Ballycastle by 9

Are you bigging up the Town before next week MR?  ;D

The Town's scored 111 pts from 5 games (average just under 23).  St Galls have 95 from 5 (average 19).  That's not a big difference.

And from what I hear Clooney Gaels might think they were a bit unlucky to get beat by so much.  The Town played the first half with a very strong wind and built up a big lead.  The wind disappeared in the second half.

Should be a good game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2011, 11:28:50 AM
We have nearly a new team, a lot of players have retired and some minors have come in. Positional changes also on the team which will take sometime to adopt. Would have prefered the castle at home on a wed night, but we will try our best to gather up a team to head down next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 04, 2011, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2011, 11:28:50 AM
We have nearly a new team, a lot of players have retired and some minors have come in. Positional changes also on the team which will take sometime to adopt. Would have prefered the castle at home on a wed night, but we will try our best to gather up a team to head down next week

The Town's in sort of the same position with a lot of young players. They haven't fielded their strongest 15 any time this season in fact they haven't even fielded the same 15 twice this season with players missing for one reason or another so they're just trying to stay in touch til they get a settled team and hopefully still be in with a chance of going up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 05, 2011, 09:05:52 PM
Westmeath in the Qualifiers on 18th June, Carlow for the winners. Good draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
I hope it is, Westmeath put up a great match against Galway and will play us with their tails up.

We should win both games, will this get us into the Quarter finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 06, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
I hope it is, Westmeath put up a great match against Galway and will play us with their tails up.

We should win both games, will this get us into the Quarter finals?


I don't think that will get us to the 1/4s.

We win both those games (which I do not think at this stage is a "could" rather a "should" - we would not score that much v Galway) we are through to play a losing semi finalist from the Munster/Leinster Championship.

We've got to:
1.  Win preliminary (Westmeath)
2.  Win Phase I (Carlow)
3.  Win Phase III (v winner from two semi finals of the Munster/Leinster Championships)
THEN we're in the 1/4 final.
At least that's my reading of it.

http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/national-fixtures/gaa-hurling-all-ireland-senior-championship/


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 06, 2011, 10:30:39 AM
What happened in Glenarm yesterday?

Felt sure Rossa would take points off Shane O Neills. Perhaps better than i thought!

Hear Galls had another good win, few fellas playin nobody knows???

Any light on this MR2?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 12:34:02 PM
Doing enough to not get relegated thats all dearyme.

Lot of new kids involved on the team and training two nights a week. Nothing special and  the acid test will be on Wed night up in Ballycastle!!

To be fair to Shane O'Neills they could have beat us last week only for us getting a goal late on to ensure victory. decent wee team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 06, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
So what will the story be with the league games, now that we have got a favourable draw in the Qualifiers. I would imagine it could be the end of the month before any league games are played? Anyone hear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 06, 2011, 02:53:27 PM
Joe Edwards looking for clubs to reschedule sunday games to midweek as far as I know. Thank god we've only one away game left in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2011, 03:08:52 PM
The draw may be a good draw for us but we can take nothing for granted.

Westmeath gave Galway a hell of a run last week and it has to be remembered Galway are much better than Wexford so that game is far from a given.

If we win that Carlow owe us one from last year too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 06, 2011, 04:32:01 PM
A good draw for both Antrim and Westmeath. Antrim have to get their scoring average up if they are to have any chance.

I hope none of the panel are take that fans  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
Only a man going to see take that would know if there's a date clash  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 06, 2011, 07:24:40 PM
It only takes a minute .....to google search  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2011, 08:01:53 PM
I dunno what's worse - the joke or the fact I got the joke  :o

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 12:34:02 PM
Doing enough to not get relegated thats all dearyme.

Some Alex Ferguson talk there MR. 6 games unbeaten and doing enough to stay up - I don't think so! You're making division 2 more interesting anyway - division 3 looks to be very competitive too.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2011, 08:01:53 PM
I dunno what's worse - the joke or the fact I got the joke  :o

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 12:34:02 PM
Doing enough to not get relegated thats all dearyme.

Some Alex Ferguson talk there MR. 6 games unbeaten and doing enough to stay up - I don't think so! You're making division 2 more interesting anyway - division 3 looks to be very competitive too.

Possibly, but to be really honest we were lucky not to be relegated last year and the form wasn't great. So with 2 from div 2 going down this year it was important to start well. New management in place and young players and fringe players claiming positions on the team. Would love to take the good form into the Dunloy game, as winning games can only be positive. But we have only played 6 games so no one is getting carried away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sammymaguire on June 06, 2011, 09:12:14 PM
'89 Olcan McFetridge no.12 in the all time greatest hurling goals now on TG4, What a belter!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 06, 2011, 09:12:14 PM
'89 Olcan McFetridge no.12 in the all time greatest hurling goals now on TG4, What a belter!

Semi final against Offaly?

He'd the full scouser thing going on in those days, belting goal that got us to the All Ireland. Way things are now with the current format we'll be very lucky to get there again :( :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 06, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Loughgiel stuffed Cushendall 1-16 to 1-4 in U-21 semi final and i heard Sarsfields shocked the Town in the other one. Can anyone confirm the Sarsfields score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2011, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 06, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Loughgiel stuffed Cushendall 1-16 to 1-4 in U-21 semi final and i heard Sarsfields shocked the Town in the other one. Can anyone confirm the Sarsfields score?
I'm just back from it myself. I thought that they weren't going to play it at the beginning because of the state of the pitch. And what's the crack with the length of the pitch in Armoy? Is it really of a high enough standard to be playing  championship hurling? The 2 65s are within touching distance of other.

On another note, a great win for the young fellas. No doubt the final will be in Casement now that the Paddy's are in the final.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 06, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Loughgiel stuffed Cushendall 1-16 to 1-4 in U-21 semi final and i heard Sarsfields shocked the Town in the other one. Can anyone confirm the Sarsfields score?

That would be a shock alright, fair play if they did, the beat us by 4 the other week and have decent strong players throughout the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2011, 10:13:59 PM
Sarsfields did beat Ballycastle up in Glengormley tonight 1-10 to 0-9.

Fair play Kevo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 06, 2011, 10:29:18 PM
Paddies a man down after 10 mins looked more up for it than the town IMO.  I think their  no.7 told Skinny to "f**k off", pity about his big mouth for he looked fairly handy, had a couple of great catches and clearances before seeing red.  The town were too short on fire power, def could have done with Clarke and Jennings. Keevo was the leader in MF and Daniel McKernan was clinical with his chances when he got them, whereas B'castle bottled it in front of goal a couple of times. there was only a couple in it with 5 to go but when McKernan got the goal it was over as a contest.
Word round the ground was that Clarkey has packed in hurling for the bright lights of the Irish league, any truth in that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 10:33:25 PM
who's clarkey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2011, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 10:33:25 PM
who's clarkey
Ciaran Clarke..flying machine..tipped for stardom since U14 but is playing soccer for Limavady & possibley hasnt progressed as much in the last year or so due to the soccer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on June 06, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
right cheers chap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 06, 2011, 11:19:58 PM
Would it be fair to assume that there is a parasite in the town piggy backing off good GAA structures and leeching the talented away to soccer? Whats the ballycastle perspective here?

Heard tonight that Rossa had a bit of a ram shackle team out against glenarm yesterday. All must not be rosy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 07, 2011, 02:37:43 AM
Clarkey supposedly signed for Coleraine, following after Oran Kearney from Cross & Passion - end of the hurling for him from what I've been told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 07, 2011, 09:02:02 AM
The board of govenors will surely be gunning for Kearney in Cross & Passion, or is this another successful product of the "Sporting Academy"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 07, 2011, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2011, 09:02:02 AM
The board of govenors will surely be gunning for Kearney in Cross & Passion, or is this another successful product of the "Sporting Academy"?

Why?

People in the Town have (reluctantly) acepted for the last couple of years that we'd lose young Clarke (and young Jennings) to football.  Maybe Kearney did take them to Coleraine but everybody pretty much knew that somebody would be taking them somewhere.

We lost Ryan McGarry and Peter Dallat to employment overseas this year.  Who should we go gunning for over that?

It's a shame that we lose these talented youngsters and we could certainly be doing with every ounce of talent we have but we have to accept economic reality.  Good luck to them.

McQuillans will keep going.  Maybe not at the level we'd like to be but on we'll go.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2011, 11:45:28 AM
Fair enough Clarkey
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Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2011, 12:18:24 PM
Must be tough for the town bringing them through giving them the great basics of how to play team sports and then for the soccer dogs to come in and poach the talent without as much as a thank you.

Im not blaming the players but it just annoys me that these soccer clubs sit back dont do anything or provide anything, structure or coaching wise, for the kids and then just when they are showing some promise in the GAA they are poached.

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Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2011, 01:37:37 PM
Surely these guys were playing soccer at some level and their soccer skills were honed there?

Hurling / gaelic football will enhance many athletic attributes of the players but it won't make them soccer players so they must have been plying their trade at it to be snapped up by semi-pro teams so I think it's probably a bit much to say soccer just effectively stole them is it not?

Aussie rules steals gaelic players as we do all their development yes but these guys would have been playing soccer as well as hurling so it's not like the GAA developed every athletic and sporting quality they have.
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 07, 2011, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2011, 01:37:37 PM
Surely these guys were playing soccer at some level and their soccer skills were honed there?

Hurling / gaelic football will enhance many athletic attributes of the players but it won't make them soccer players so they must have been plying their trade at it to be snapped up by semi-pro teams so I think it's probably a bit much to say soccer just effectively stole them is it not?

Aussie rules steals gaelic players as we do all their development yes but these guys would have been playing soccer as well as hurling so it's not like the GAA developed every athletic and sporting quality they have.

100% tommy
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Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
So it's OK to have have someone who is part of a GAA coaching development set up who at the same time actively encourages the talented youth to play soccer. (only the talented ones mind you...the rest can take a jump)? That doesn't sit well with me. Of course kids/parents have their own choices to make (most of them based on "hoop dreams"), but the GAA is about developing a collective unit within an area where there is a pride in representing the team where you come from. Quite difficult to do that when you have someone in your camp who is encouraging the exact opposite.
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Post by: DearyMe on June 07, 2011, 03:00:29 PM
Ballycastle starting to crumble under the influence of soccer then -= suppose it was only a matter of time before they were impacted by the city mentality!

Are you implying that this is your level Blackandamber?

Surely you are favourites to go up in div 2?

I would say Galls will be weak enough wednesday, heard they will be missing a few (probably football trainin on lol :o)

But they really arent good travellers anyway!

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Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2011, 03:02:59 PM
I was mainly commenting on NAGs post skull.

If someone exists in the club who has an agenda of pushing better players towards soccer to further their own interests then that would be wrong.

Is that what is being done though? Maybe someone has an interest in soccer and is encouraging young players to play it too - maybe there's more to it than that I dunno. I find it hard to believe that there will be much, material, gain from pushing these guys towards soccer. What would they get out of it?
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 07, 2011, 03:06:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
So it's OK to have have someone who is part of a GAA coaching development set up ........

Huh?

Do you mean Oran Kearney?  Or who is it that is part of a GAA coaching development setup?

Cross & passions sportning  academy award wasn't made purely for Gaelic sport.  It was for SPORT.  Oran Kearney helped with all sports as far as I know.  And I repeat Ballycastle knew for years that these young players were likely to get snapped up by some football club.  They've already been playing for another football club anyway.  Coleraine I'd guess have given them a better deal.  It's a pity.  I'd prefer that they chose to stay & play hurling.  We need them but I'm not going to condemn them or anyone else for earnnig a few bob from their talent.
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 07, 2011, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 07, 2011, 03:00:29 PM
Ballycastle starting to crumble under the influence of soccer then -= suppose it was only a matter of time before they were impacted by the city mentality!

Are you implying that this is your level Blackandamber?

Surely you are favourites to go up in div 2?

I would say Galls will be weak enough wednesday, heard they will be missing a few (probably football trainin on lol :o)

But they really arent good travellers anyway!

That's not the implication at all.  It;s the reality at the moment and the ambition is to get back to Div 1 & start winning championships again.  Don't know about being favourites though.  we have lost the 4 players already mentioned though I don't think young jennings played much last year.  We also have players injured or just getting back from injury.  maybe the worst part of the U21 result against sarsfields is that a lot of those lads have to pick themsleves up again for Wed night and from what I hear thier performance last night was very poor. I'm told sarsfields played well and really wanted it.

The facts of life are that clubs everywhere will lose good players for all sorts of reasons and they'll keep going on.  Seems that this year we've been badly hit but we'll keep on going.
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 07, 2011, 03:19:38 PM
Just saw this on the County message board -

"I would like to wish Sean Hawes a speedy recovery from his injury sustained at the weekend."

Is Chrissy back in the picture???

Have to say, the only way that the draw could have been more favourable to us was if we got Carlow first and then Westmeath.

That's not to say Westmeath wont do a number on us on the back of their great performance against Galway. Its hard to imagine us racking up 2 - 14 against Galway and to think that they had something in the order of 15 wides!!!!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2011, 07:56:01 PM
So, the u21 final is in Casement park on Saturday at 6pm. Quelle surprise!
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Post by: Saffron exile on June 07, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Was in the Irish News on Monday that Sean Hawes had broken his ankle. Who are the senior keepers in the panel now?
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Post by: Minder on June 07, 2011, 08:23:34 PM
If young Clarke gives up the hurling i would imagine he will regret it, what would you tell your kids about in twenty years time? "I won three championships with my mates" or " I scored a hat trick against Ballyclare Comrades". Of course he could end up signing for a team in England and make a fortune but i would imagine the chances of that happening are slim.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 07, 2011, 08:45:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 07, 2011, 08:23:34 PM
If young Clarke gives up the hurling i would imagine he will regret it, what would you tell your kids about in twenty years time? "I won three championships with my mates" or " I scored a hat trick against Ballyclare Comrades". Of course he could end up signing for a team in England and make a fortune but i would imagine the chances of that happening are slim.
Easy on Minder, he played for Ballycastle.

No point blaming snakes in the grass etc. these boys male their own choices in life and have probably been playing soccer for years too. Hurling isn't the only game in town.
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Post by: Buswhacker on June 07, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2011, 11:50:53 PM
Sky and "our" homogenised love affair with the "beautiful game" (because the media tells us to) has dimmed the brain of manys a Gael.
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2011, 08:50:17 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 07, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

What's your definition of big? There would be quite a few boys from Belfast who would have played for antrim, probably more football, made it in the top league and played in the world cup - to me that's big. Best had as big a rep as any man united player - if you didn't make it as "big" as him you could still do pretty well. Martin O'Neill has two european cup medals - is that not big?

Anyway - hurling thread... Watson can play both so why can't Clarke??
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Post by: Glensman on June 08, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 07, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

Depends what you call "big". I wouldn't mind getting the following players wages:
Chris Baird
Kyle Lafferty
Gareth McAuley
Maik Taylor
etc

I just don't understand why he has to choose one or the other at this stage in his career. If he is that good and on the verge of a trial with an English club then fair enough - concentrate on soccer for a year. If not there is no reason why he can't play both hurling and soccer. Burnout smurnout.
I agree with different parts of different arguments here but can empathise with the position that a few years down the line, if he is plying his trade in Div 1/Div 2 of the NI soccer league he may miss out on an under 21 championship or two and the step up to Ballycastle seniors contending he may regret this.
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Post by: Buswhacker on June 08, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
By big I mean Premier class. The players you mention are earning big wages,but how many players from here reach their level,which in turn is hardly comparable to the wages earned at Man Utd. etc. The availability of good foreign players has ruined the chances of many locals of ever making the grade. I would advise young players to think carefully and be honest about their own abilities before they give up their GAA games for a pipe dream.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2011, 09:24:40 AM
Loads of parents I know who take their kids to soccer have been told about this scout and that scout from clubs across the shugh interested in their young lad. Very easy to get pipe dreams when local soccer teams use such devious techniques to keep young lads coming back. 
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Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 09:32:37 AM
Yes I think other sports are a growing problem - and no coincedence its mainly at underage level.

After all, there's a loss of the parish/local pride etc (general in society) so young guys are more inclined to fly the nest - especially if there's a few quid in it.
But also our underage strucutes (pitches, goalnets etc but mainly refs availabitlity) mean soccer still has the edge at this level.

Ballycastle sufffer but even more so the city clubs - hard to see what can be done?

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.
Heard the Rossa boys were none to happy comin out of Glenarm also?
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2011, 10:15:07 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 08, 2011, 09:17:22 AM
By big I mean Premier class. The players you mention are earning big wages,but how many players from here reach their level,which in turn is hardly comparable to the wages earned at Man Utd. etc. The availability of good foreign players has ruined the chances of many locals of ever making the grade. I would advise young players to think carefully and be honest about their own abilities before they give up their GAA games for a pipe dream.

Jonny Evans, Aaron Hughes and Chris Baird(former Rasharkin GAA player) all play premier league. Mal Donaghy, Anton Rogan(two GAA players), Steve Lomas, Neil Lennon(former Armagh minor) and many more all played top level too. All making a big living and a few gaels in there. There are barely any english players at top clubs these days never mind NI / ROI.

It's part of the harsh reality of an amateur sport that some of these guys will be lost. Guys like Lafferty and Davis are set-up for life now as they make a fortune so they have clearly made it. Allbeit they're not GA players but my point is even not at the top they make massive money.

I think Glensman makes a fair point - why can he not play both? Watson / Antrim soccer goalie / even those McGourtys do it.

Where is the Galls / Ballycastle match at by the way?
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 09:32:37 AM

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.


I hope you're right there butI wouldn't be so sure. I think St Galls will give the Town everything and maybe more than they want.  I can't see too much in it and the way the Town is with players missing & so on  St Galls should be favourites maybe.

Should be a good game so I hope it dries up and stays calm.

It's in ballycastle Tommy. 
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Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 09:32:37 AM

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.


I hope you're right there butI wouldn't be so sure. I think St Galls will give the Town everything and maybe more than they want.  I can't see too much in it and the way the Town is with players missing & so on  St Galls should be favourites maybe.

Should be a good game so I hope it dries up and stays calm.

It's in ballycastle Tommy.

In this instance its safe for you to use 'us and 'we' when talking about your home club BlackandAmber, that is if you are who you say you are???
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Post by: DearyMe on June 08, 2011, 10:42:54 AM
St.Galls are favourites?

Interesting, although i will wait on the result before i believe that B&A! Is this perhaps a little bit of gamesmanship?

You have done nothing put talk the town down-i doubt you really mean it!

I'll be up at Rossa - fancy Clooney Gaels might be closer than people think!
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2011, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 09:32:37 AM

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.


I hope you're right there butI wouldn't be so sure. I think St Galls will give the Town everything and maybe more than they want.  I can't see too much in it and the way the Town is with players missing & so on  St Galls should be favourites maybe.

Should be a good game so I hope it dries up and stays calm.

It's in ballycastle Tommy.

In this instance its safe for you to use 'us and 'we' when talking about your home club BlackandAmber, that is if you are who you say you are???

Awful lot of conspiracy theories creeping into this thread...
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 09:32:37 AM

Speaking of those clubs  - I think Galls will fall to Castle this week whioch shoulod be the start of the end of div2.


I hope you're right there butI wouldn't be so sure. I think St Galls will give the Town everything and maybe more than they want.  I can't see too much in it and the way the Town is with players missing & so on  St Galls should be favourites maybe.

Should be a good game so I hope it dries up and stays calm.

It's in ballycastle Tommy.

In this instance its safe for you to use 'us and 'we' when talking about your home club BlackandAmber, that is if you are who you say you are???

I know what you mean johnny but as I'm just a supporter rather than a player or anybody involved in the club sometimes the "we" or "us" sounds a bit presumptious.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2011, 01:41:50 PM
gutted to hear young clarke and maybe Jennings going to soccer especially when both was going to make county panel no probs. If Clarke prefers soccer to hurling theres nothing we can do about that but wish him good luck. I would envisage that he will try it and get disillusioned and come back to the small ball some day. This is a big blow to the town WHO where starting to produce enough quality players to have a crack at a county Senior very soon.
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Post by: DearyMe on June 08, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I'm sure Ballycastle will be fine North Bound!
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Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2011, 02:51:08 PM
I think the gamesmanship is from the Milltown men! They are playing down their position but they still deserve credit - castle to win however and the table will take shape.
Clooney will give Rossa all they want also - I heard their game at Glenarm was a farce and it will knock them back after good results it finally puts their league challenge to bed also. Clooney are a better team than their results suggest.
Anyway - we will know more by tomorrow!
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Post by: DearyMe on June 08, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
Dunno how you determined that 'btdtgtt'!

The majority seems to be about 'the town'!

But hey, its all good!  was just reading Paul Galvin rumoured to be going to Belfast?anyone?
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Post by: Last Man on June 08, 2011, 03:18:36 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 08, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
Dunno how you determined that 'btdtgtt'!

The majority seems to be about 'the town'!

But hey, its all good!  was just reading Paul Galvin rumoured to be going to Belfast?anyone?
Heard that rumour to but would only be interested if he was for swinging the timber which I believe he's not averse to.
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 09:09:40 PM
Ballycastle 4-06 St Galls 1-07
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 08, 2011, 08:55:08 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 07, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Who was the last player from N.Ireland to really make it big across the water,probably Geordie Best .As Minder says,playing for Ballyclare,Dungannon Swifts or Donegal Celtic is hardly going to make anyone a fortune playing in front of fifty people every week.Giving up Gaelic games is something that a young player could regret for the rest of his life.

Depends what you call "big". I wouldn't mind getting the following players wages:
Chris Baird
Kyle Lafferty
Gareth McAuley
Maik Taylor
etc

I just don't understand why he has to choose one or the other at this stage in his career. If he is that good and on the verge of a trial with an English club then fair enough - concentrate on soccer for a year. If not there is no reason why he can't play both hurling and soccer. Burnout smurnout.
I agree with different parts of different arguments here but can empathise with the position that a few years down the line, if he is plying his trade in Div 1/Div 2 of the NI soccer league he may miss out on an under 21 championship or two and the step up to Ballycastle seniors contending he may regret this.
Maik Taylor isn't from here. He's a kraut as far as I know.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2011, 10:35:09 PM
Will talk about match later Black and Amber. Both teams didn't play well at all
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2011, 10:35:09 PM
Will talk about match later Black and Amber. Both teams didn't play well at all
It was disappointing. Conditions were poor with the rain and the wind seemed to be fairly strong but even allowing that both teams will not be happy with their performances.  The Town of course will be happy with the points but too many not playing up to expectation. They looklike a team in need of inspiration and it ain't there on the pitch or on the sideline,  Still with the 4 already talked about missing, another 2 injured and 1 suspended maybe that's harsh.
St Galls started slow and didn't offer a lot of threat except for 3 or 4 very nicly worked points in the second half.

I don't think that game told us anything about either of the teams real potential.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2011, 11:49:04 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2011, 10:35:09 PM
Will talk about match later Black and Amber. Both teams didn't play well at all
It was disappointing. Conditions were poor with the rain and the wind seemed to be fairly strong but even allowing that both teams will not be happy with their performances.  The Town of course will be happy with the points but too many not playing up to expectation. They looklike a team in need of inspiration and it ain't there on the pitch or on the sideline,  Still with the 4 already talked about missing, another 2 injured and 1 suspended maybe that's harsh.
St Galls started slow and didn't offer a lot of threat except for 3 or 4 very nicly worked points in the second half.

I don't think that game told us anything about either of the teams real potential.

No it didn't. I'd say we'd be happy come the return game in Belfast that hopefully we will reverse the scoreline. Second half we got it down to 4, we made a couple of dodgy changes and ya's came out of that with an 8 point lead!!

Only a point between them so all to play for
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Post by: btdtgtt on June 09, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
Sounds like the weather ruined the game in Ballycastle? Altho in the long run the town will be happy at the end of the day the result is all that matters.

I was at Shaws Road for the Rossa Clooney game - non event. Rossa won at a canter I think they ended up replacing their entire forward line to give subs a game. But for Glenarm lads - sorry could not resist that! The Rossa folk on the hill still seething about that game - no ref turned up and Shane O'Neills guy pulled a corker to secure their first win lol!

I dont see BC bein shifted from the top of the table - depending on Gall football commitments the top3 will probably finish in that order as Rossa have serious problems getting their players on the pitch.

What and Hannahstown anyone? A bright start but they have gone quiet must be collecting draw money.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2011, 09:51:09 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 09, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
Sounds like the weather ruined the game in Ballycastle? Altho in the long run the town will be happy at the end of the day the result is all that matters.

I was at Shaws Road for the Rossa Clooney game - non event. Rossa won at a canter I think they ended up replacing their entire forward line to give subs a game. But for Glenarm lads - sorry could not resist that! The Rossa folk on the hill still seething about that game - no ref turned up and Shane O'Neills guy pulled a corker to secure their first win lol!

I dont see BC bein shifted from the top of the table - depending on Gall football commitments the top3 will probably finish in that order as Rossa have serious problems getting their players on the pitch.

What and Hannahstown anyone? A bright start but they have gone quiet must be collecting draw money.

The standard was poor and I don't think the weather can be blamed completely for that.   Dunno what the reason was.  Maybe for the Town there was still a bit of a hangover from the Monday night U21 non performance and I suppose some of those lads are playing minor U21 and senior and can't be at 100% all the time.   With fingers firmly crossed they can only get better :)

Tell more about this Glenarm/Rossa business.
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Post by: btdtgtt on June 09, 2011, 12:02:48 PM
I gotta confess firstly I was not at the Glenarm Rossa game but was talkin to both the Rossa crowd last night and a neutral caravanner in Carnlough!
Basically Rossa had to scrape a team together(cant blame anyone there surely?!) but no ref arrived. A Glenarm boy refereed and in fairness it sounded farcical! Bias/cheating GAA style but the my rossa mate tells me there was a few blatent moves pulled by ref & sideline resulted in some fighting etc - I think Glenarm will get some welcome when they arrive to Rossa later in the year!
Surprised by poor quality hurling in Castle game I think both sides have quality there with Hippy McAuley Ciaran Kelly and Galls have Karl S and the mc gourts.
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Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
Seems to be a bit of to and from on the County Website concerning club aontroma but its been heavily censored - anyone know what thats about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 10, 2011, 09:33:36 AM
Rossa game was one sided inparts, but Clooney Gaels never gave up.

The whole Glenarm game thing  is a nonsence - Rossa didnt travel well, fullstop!

Scoreline doesnt tell us a lot about the ballycastle/galls game, although i expected the town to edge it at home. ;)

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Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2011, 10:52:48 AM
Well deary me I agree - Rossa certainly didnt travel well although infairness the team they hand certainly sounded enough to win. As for the ref I will give them some cause - I mean Glenarm didnt have a single point in the league then all of the sudden they ref a match themselves and beat one of the stronger teams?! Lets face it thats hardly coincidence.

But I cannot agree with u on the Rossa Clooney game! The whole thing was flat and never a contest (one sided in parts?!) I mean i actually walked down and watched some of Sarsfields game! oney might not have given up but Rossa did! They replaced all their forwards! I think u are well out on your analysis there!

What about hannahstown have u any info there? Gorts seem to be in freefall both football and hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 11, 2011, 07:38:51 PM
Shamrocks' first championship of the year!    ;)
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Post by: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2011, 07:47:57 PM
Helped by two dubious late frees according to the Andytown News man on the ground.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 11, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
Laughable really.
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Post by: Forever Green on June 12, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Anybody at the Loughgiel game? Heard Loughgiel were lucky to come away with the win as Sarsfields dominated but couldn't put their chances away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 12, 2011, 08:39:59 PM
Cushendall beat loughgiel 1:12 to 012 in the feis. Loughgiel had penalty saved and Sean Delargy made a super hook late on to deny goalscoring chance
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 12, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Anybody at the Loughgiel game? Heard Loughgiel were lucky to come away with the win as Sarsfields dominated but couldn't put their chances away
The Paddy's had 16 wides, Shamrocks had 11. Apparently they thought the last two frees to Loughgiel were "dubious". Well some reporter on the Andytown news did. Funnily enough they looked justified from where I was standing. What I will say is that if Sarsfields had as much talent as they have endeavour they'd have won it easily enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2011, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 12, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Anybody at the Loughgiel game? Heard Loughgiel were lucky to come away with the win as Sarsfields dominated but couldn't put their chances away
The Paddy's had 16 wides, Shamrocks had 11. Apparently they thought the last two frees to Loughgiel were "dubious". Well some reporter on the Andytown news did. Funnily enough they looked justified from where I was standing. What I will say is that if Sarsfields had as much talent as they have endeavour they'd have won it easily enough.

Say what you want about the Angrytown News but they are always to be relied on to be totally biased and unfair to the team playing against a Belfast team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2011, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2011, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 12, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Anybody at the Loughgiel game? Heard Loughgiel were lucky to come away with the win as Sarsfields dominated but couldn't put their chances away
The Paddy's had 16 wides, Shamrocks had 11. Apparently they thought the last two frees to Loughgiel were "dubious". Well some reporter on the Andytown news did. Funnily enough they looked justified from where I was standing. What I will say is that if Sarsfields had as much talent as they have endeavour they'd have won it easily enough.

Say what you want about the Angrytown News but they are always to be relied on to be totally biased and unfair to the team playing against a Belfast team.
The Paddys have a great midfielder in young McKiernan. He hit 8 scores and 10 wides. A bit of shot practise wouldn't go amiss there. They have the potential of good wee team there for next couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 12, 2011, 08:39:59 PM
Cushendall beat loughgiel 1:12 to 012 in the feis. Loughgiel had penalty saved and Sean Delargy made a super hook late on to deny goalscoring chance
Did you get as soaked as I did? It was showing 4 degrees this evening on the car dash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on June 13, 2011, 12:04:03 AM
Today's results:
Rossa   2-10   3-7   Lamh Dhearg   Rossa   Round 10   
Carey Faughs   0-13   1-14   Clooney Gaels   Carey Faughs   Round 10   
Gort Na Mona   1-15   0-7   Shane O Neills   Gort Na Mona   Round 10   
Ballycastle   1-14   1-6   Tir na Nog   Ballycastle   Round 10   
Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Cloughmills   2-9   0-13   Sarsfields   Cloughmills   Round 9   
Rasharkin   2-6   2-10   Glen Rovers Armoy   Rasharkin   Round 9   
Glenravel   2-8   0-7   Bredagh   Glenravel   Round 9   
Antrim Div 4 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
St Galls   0-5   3-4   Mc Dermotts   St. Galls   Round 7   
All Saints   1-5   7-11   St Teresas   All Saints   Round 7   
St Agnes   1-6   1-14   Davitts   St. Agnes   Round 7   
St Endas   5-11   0-3   Ardoyne   St. Endas   Round 7   


Tir na Nog seem to be performing well this season. They have ran Ballycastle close twice now in the league. Safe to say Glenarm are already down unless they can pull of some big results away from home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AhJaysusRef on June 13, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
8 points is hardly close...

Does someone else go down from Div2 with Glenarm or is it still one up one down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 13, 2011, 07:55:23 AM
miserable evening, but sure its only June, can't wait to the summer hurling starts.

Surprised the match even went ahead last night with the county out next week,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 13, 2011, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 13, 2011, 12:04:03 AM



Tir na Nog seem to be performing well this season. They have ran Ballycastle close twice now in the league. Safe to say Glenarm are already down unless they can pull of some big results away from home

The result of their first maych was Tir na nog 0-13 Ballycastle 3-16 and there were 8 points in it yesterday.

But to be fairBallycastle scored a late goal that made the scoreline look a little better for them.  Tir na Nog competed strongly but Hippy is starting to look like he's getting back to form after his op as well as Pinky who was just back from hols last week. I thought Neal had been a bit inconsistent  after last year's USA trip but now he's starting to look strong & commading again and with Cozzie playing well that's a pretty strong spine.  With a couple of players still to come back I'm now optimistic about the league anyway.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 13, 2011, 08:40:25 AM
Is the future Orange?

Armagh 0-14 Down 1-10

What happened here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 13, 2011, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 12, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Anybody at the Loughgiel game? Heard Loughgiel were lucky to come away with the win as Sarsfields dominated but couldn't put their chances away

Loughgiel started poorly but found their feet after about 15 mins and finished the half off well.  Sarsfields played really well in the 2nd half but hit alot of long range wides where maybe a low ball into the full forward line might have been a better option. I think a lot of our boys thought they had the game won at half time but fair play to Sarsfields they came out strong in the 2nd half.  Very young Sarsfields team (8 minors i think) so would expect to see more of them over the next couple of years.

As for the last couple of frees I thought they were justified in keeping with the pattern of the game - Skinny had a good game but tends to be a bit whistle happy.  Always up with play, fair and doesn't miss much.  I think if he starts to let play go a bit more he could be an excellent ref imo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
Better team beat IMO.

Loughgiel are getting into a nice knack of winning matches that they are dominated in, I would say the won the u21 final on 30-40% of the play. Sarsfields will look back at this one and wonder how it got away, it was lost along the line, players were continually taking the wrong option in possession without correction from the line.

Good to see them back at this level and was a young team for sure, so hopefully they will be around for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on June 13, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
8 points is hardly close...

Does someone else go down from Div2 with Glenarm or is it still one up one down?

Think i vaguely remember hearing it was 2 down in Div 2 & 3 (only 1 up) to bring it back to 8 teams per league for next season (apart from Div 4)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on June 13, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
8 points is hardly close...

Does someone else go down from Div2 with Glenarm or is it still one up one down?

Think i vaguely remember hearing it was 2 down in Div 2 & 3 (only 1 up) to bring it back to 8 teams per league for next season (apart from Div 4)

Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 13, 2011, 06:20:33 PM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on June 13, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
8 points is hardly close...

Does someone else go down from Div2 with Glenarm or is it still one up one down?

Think i vaguely remember hearing it was 2 down in Div 2 & 3 (only 1 up) to bring it back to 8 teams per league for next season (apart from Div 4)

Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams

Does anyone else think it should be two teams up and down?
Makes it more competitive and games mean more - will come a stage were certain teams will know they are safe and not be able to compete for the league. Dangerous fielding weakened teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
Have been saying it for years!! The clubs vote not to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 13, 2011, 06:20:33 PM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on June 13, 2011, 12:34:25 AM
8 points is hardly close...

Does someone else go down from Div2 with Glenarm or is it still one up one down?

Think i vaguely remember hearing it was 2 down in Div 2 & 3 (only 1 up) to bring it back to 8 teams per league for next season (apart from Div 4)

Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams

Does anyone else think it should be two teams up and down?
Makes it more competitive and games mean more - will come a stage were certain teams will know they are safe and not be able to compete for the league. Dangerous fielding weakened teams.

What about bringing back the play-off system? Gives more teams more to play for right to the end of the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
I'd agree that play-offs make a lot of sense. Season, meaningfully, lasts longer for a lot more teams then and helps with standard with less meaningless matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
But it would still need to be two up two down, competitive to the end.

A lot of div 2 teams will be crapping themselves come near the end of the season. Gorts, ourselves, and Rossa have not played in that league for a long time (don't think Rossa ever had)

Can you imagine the div 1 league if it were two down? be some gurning if one of the big teams were put in that position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams

If Div 3 has 8 teams and 2 come down from Div 2 that makes 10.  One team promoted to Div 2 leaves 9.  One promoted from Div 4 leaves 10 again, so need to have 2 relegated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2011, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
But it would still need to be two up two down, competitive to the end.

A lot of div 2 teams will be crapping themselves come near the end of the season. Gorts, ourselves, and Rossa have not played in that league for a long time (don't think Rossa ever had)

Can you imagine the div 1 league if it were two down? be some gurning if one of the big teams were put in that position

Yep ideally, in my view, one automatic promotion, one automatic relegation and play-off between second bottom and second top.

Division 1 appears tighter now down at the bottom. With Ballycastle and the then down champions ballycran making their way to division 2 over the last few years bigger teams seem to be in the mix anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams

If Div 3 has 8 teams and 2 come down from Div 2 that makes 10.  One team promoted to Div 2 leaves 9.  One promoted from Div 4 leaves 10 again, so need to have 2 relegated?

Alright carol vorderman, alright!  ;D It'll take the clubs to propose and vote for it though (play-offs etc.) so with a bit of effort we can help improve the current stagnant league structures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 14, 2011, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 13, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: scamroc on June 13, 2011, 04:37:02 PM
Div 2 is 2 down 1 up to make it 8 teams next year. Div 3 is 1 down 1 up as it already has 8 teams

If Div 3 has 8 teams and 2 come down from Div 2 that makes 10.  One team promoted to Div 2 leaves 9.  One promoted from Div 4 leaves 10 again, so need to have 2 relegated?

Alright carol vorderman, alright!  ;D It'll take the clubs to propose and vote for it though (play-offs etc.) so with a bit of effort we can help improve the current stagnant league structures.

I don't see a whole pile wrong with Div1 to be honest.

Granted at the minute there's the top three and then there's a five way relegation battle going on with the rest.

If playoffs were to happen, what format would you recommend? Bottom 4?? second from bottom plays second from top in Div2 ??

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 14, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
But it would still need to be two up two down, competitive to the end.

A lot of div 2 teams will be crapping themselves come near the end of the season. Gorts, ourselves, and Rossa have not played in that league for a long time (don't think Rossa ever had)
Can you imagine the div 1 league if it were two down? be some gurning if one of the big teams were put in that position

Dont think Rossa ever had what? Watched them against Lamh Dearg the other night - was an entertaining game even tho ref managed to annoy both sides! Micko was excellent in No6 as was Shanzo at the back for Rossa. Lamh Dearg really impress me this year I have seen them a few times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 14, 2011, 09:47:52 AM
To be honest I think if the structures were changed we would be on this forum complaining again - I think we seem to change every year what seems to be right maybe its just a case of getting on with it after all championship is the real deal. Altho I will say that the current setup is doing nothing in developing our county team. Personally I think we should play off the league and then the top 6-8 clubs compete for senior championship then the next 6-8 intermediate and so on. Means every game in meaningful as it is mroe or less a championship match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2011, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 14, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
But it would still need to be two up two down, competitive to the end.

A lot of div 2 teams will be crapping themselves come near the end of the season. Gorts, ourselves, and Rossa have not played in that league for a long time (don't think Rossa ever had)
Can you imagine the div 1 league if it were two down? be some gurning if one of the big teams were put in that position

Dont think Rossa ever had what? Watched them against Lamh Dearg the other night - was an entertaining game even tho ref managed to annoy both sides! Micko was excellent in No6 as was Shanzo at the back for Rossa. Lamh Dearg really impress me this year I have seen them a few times.

Been in div 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 14, 2011, 11:15:50 AM
2 up 2 down every league - enough nonsense about teams gurning etc... get a back bone, take the medicine!
If not good enough over a season, you shouldn be there the next! Ballycastle had to do it this year!

Lamhs have impressed me also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
Have any of yous ever been to a county meeting when these things are decided??? Very few of the delegates would be considered the visionarys among us in fact few can see past the end of their nose. This is a vitally important position within any club but in most cases is left to people who have been doing it for years and will never take a risk for the greater good and just stick with the same old shite and let the house fall down round us. Totally agree with MR and he has been saying it for years, 2 up 2 down might just spark a bit of a buzz back into Antrim hurling.
Take my own club, a massive effort has been put into juvenile hurling over the last 10 years and is now starting to bear fruit with all our teams competing and holding their own at A grade, players on all development squads. 1.2M invested in club development in the last 13 years. A shining example to all clubs and considering our history, a serious achievment.
BUT, our seniors are languishing in Div 4 where lets face it lads, you couldn't be charging in for it as hurling doesnt always see you through. So it's basically just a scrap where if you slip up once you're fucked, promotion chance gone for another year.
And before anyone gets ahead of themselves we are realistic enough to aspire to maybe holding on to a place in Division 2 in a few years time but given the current structures that would take an awful lot of luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
The two up two down works well in Football, why not hurling? I can remember our senior team not so long ago playing in Div 2 football. Ten years later they are appearing in Croke Park!!

No big deal going down, it's how you get back up and drive on after that is what counts.

As Last Man has said one little blip, a wet windy night up the country or in Belfast and all your title aspirations fly out the window.

Growing up we always competed against the 'big teams' at juvenile level but when we became senior players we were always playing in the lower leagues, so we ended up playing at a lower standard and it took a real big effort and a strong juvenile team to come through and win us the chance to stay in Div 1. 

You will get your chance, hopefully, as it would be a waste to have so many good young lads playing at the lower grades as it doesn't improve them at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 12:31:34 PM
Basically the leagues reflect the level of committment by the clubs to their hurling, be that the club committee or the players level of committment.

St Galls are always going to be a second tier hurling club, thats just the way it is, yes they might compete once in a while at senior championship running someone close but with no sustained development they will remain where they are.

Ballycastle are another example, they neglected any coaching for the past 15-20 years at underage level and now it is biting back at them and even though they have 5-6 very good players they still might remain in Div 2.

I think the leagues reflect the reality of the current hurling landscape. 2 up 2 down isnt going to change that or any other system until clubs take it upon themselves to make a serious drive to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2011, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 12:31:34 PM
Basically the leagues reflect the level of committment by the clubs to their hurling, be that the club committee or the players level of committment.

St Galls are always going to be a second tier hurling club, thats just the way it is, yes they might compete once in a while at senior championship running someone close but with no sustained development they will remain where they are.

Ballycastle are another example, they neglected any coaching for the past 15-20 years at underage level and now it is biting back at them and even though they have 5-6 very good players they still might remain in Div 2.

I think the leagues reflect the reality of the current hurling landscape. 2 up 2 down isnt going to change that or any other system until clubs take it upon themselves to make a serious drive to improve.

But NAG1 it gives some teams a chance to compete at a higher level maybe for a season maybe not, I know from personal experience that it certainly drove the numbers up at training and encouraged younger ones to play both codes, when at a time the lure of football big time was there.

It filtered down to the juveniles also, coaches were using Div 1 status as a carrot for the next batch of senior hurlers.

Don't get me wrong at the minute the leagues seem to be competitive and the cream always (usually) rises to the top, thats why Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy are clear of the chasing pack. Ballycastle clear in Div 2 but if a team can get up to Div 1 and maintain that for a couple of seasons the benefits are immense.

Why not have two up two down, christ we have tried everything else over the years!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
Dont get me wrong Im not against any system that will increase the chances of a club becoming competitive, but I am fed up of hearing these clubs complain about being where they are and living on past glories when they put no work in whatsoever.

It will take a concerted effort across these clubs to get their players to a standard where they can compete in Div 1 regularly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
Surprisingly short sighted NAG, it's fine for those at the top for now but if there is little realistic hope of a reasonable time scale for those who want to progress then where is the incentive, and on the flip side for those who just want to do enough to hold on?? It takes far too long either way. Tell me how this mediocraty benefits any club. Admit it you just wouldn't want any of the pond scum polluting the purity of Division 1  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
 ;) Last Man

Couldnt be further from the truth, I would like to see Belfast (especially) on its feet hurling wise but I dont see them having the work ethic to get there and be competitive when they are there.

My point is that it takes alot of hard work and committment from the clubs and the players and if you look at the clubs in Div 2, you could argue that this is the element that has been sorely lacking over the past number of years.

Its not short sighted, but IMO a div 1 place should be the pinacle and should be treated as such. If these clubs put the required hard graft in to get there then they are less likely to piss it away because of someones stag party was the same weekend as a match etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 14, 2011, 02:21:18 PM
NAG whats your beef here?

You simply cannot justity not having a 2 up 2 down system - everyother league has it,  yet we are frigthened to impose on div 1!

If a team is poor enough to finish in the bottom 2 of div 1, let them take their medicine - we do not have a duty to protect one calibre/pedigree of hurling over another - that would regress hurling in the county - its pretty black and white (or amber)!!!

And no one has the rite to judge whether a team will be a nearly team/div 2 team etc - without knowing that clubs structures and work ethic!!!

You cant pass judgement based on history - and that goes for both history of success and or lack of!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
DearyMe

I can clearly judge hurling clubs that I know and know what they are doing and not doing. Hence my point was they are in Div 2 for a reason and we shouldnt be clamouring to get anyone back to Div 1 until they earn that right.

If they arent prepared to put the work in continually then they deserve to be where they are, if its recreational hurling they want then there are leagues for that too.

Point being Div 1 should be the pinacle and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
;) Last Man

Couldnt be further from the truth, I would like to see Belfast (especially) on its feet hurling wise but I dont see them having the work ethic to get there and be competitive when they are there.

My point is that it takes alot of hard work and committment from the clubs and the players and if you look at the clubs in Div 2, you could argue that this is the element that has been sorely lacking over the past number of years.

Its not short sighted, but IMO a div 1 place should be the pinacle and should be treated as such. If these clubs put the required hard graft in to get there then they are less likely to piss it away because of someones stag party was the same weekend as a match etc.
"Belfast".Not sure how that relates to me but anyway, scratch the surface Nag and are we seeing shades of elitism by any chance. Division 2 clubs are slackers or are they just kept in their place by the prevailling status quo???? 2 up 2 down would drive a coach and horses through the "glass ceiling" IMO. So what next build a wall from Toome to Larne to protect the monks from the marauding Stags? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2011, 03:44:18 PM
I'd be on for a two up two down system as long it took a year before that new system be used. i.e if voted through at the end of this year, it wouldn't come into effect until the the finish of the 2013 leagues. That gives clubs enough warning of whats coming down the pipe and lets them get ready for it and would stop alot of whinging.  I think there was some sort of motion at convention last year which voted through?

I think NAG has a fair point in relation to alot of Belfast clubs not being serious enough about their hurling when they get to senior. St Johns however look as if they're sorting that out this year. Rossa are still a work in progress. Play an ards club in the league and you'll get a great contest almost every time you play them. Play city clubs in the league (and this is going back years) and more often than not you get alot of games where the opposition go through the motions.  No one wants to see those type of games.  Actually the same could be said about Ballycastle over the past few years...too many who could take it or leave it

Twould be a great day for Antrim hurling if you had a SW and a few city clubs competing in the Div1 leagues (without the standard dropping of course) so anything which might encourage more clubs to up their standards HAS to be encouraged.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 14, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
;) Last Man

Couldnt be further from the truth, I would like to see Belfast (especially) on its feet hurling wise but I dont see them having the work ethic to get there and be competitive when they are there.

My point is that it takes alot of hard work and committment from the clubs and the players and if you look at the clubs in Div 2, you could argue that this is the element that has been sorely lacking over the past number of years.

Its not short sighted, but IMO a div 1 place should be the pinacle and should be treated as such. If these clubs put the required hard graft in to get there then they are less likely to piss it away because of someones stag party was the same weekend as a match etc.
"Belfast".Not sure how that relates to me but anyway, scratch the surface Nag and are we seeing shades of elitism by any chance. Division 2 clubs are slackers or are they just kept in their place by the prevailling status quo???? 2 up 2 down would drive a coach and horses through the "glass ceiling" IMO. So what next build a wall from Toome to Larne to protect the monks from the marauding Stags? ;D

Wasnt directly relating it to yourself Last Man was just making the point as there is a derth of Belfast Clubs in Div 2.Thats all, am just being realistic not eliteist.

Tell me how putting two team that arent up to the standard of Div 1 up helps them or the other teams in that league?

Believe me I want the standard to go up but I do not see this as the main reason why the standard is mediorce at present. My point is the lack of effort on behalf of some of the clubs is the reason that the standard is poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2011, 04:38:17 PM
NAG1 saying a lack of effort is a bit mean to the massive effort being put into by mentors within these football dominated clubs. These guys are working harder at hurling than some of our 'bigger clubs' if they didn't it would die in Belfast! Easier to build on tradition than being able to get tradition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2011, 04:42:32 PM
But where are they going to get the exposure so they know how far off the mark they are, what player relishes the relief of relegation to a poorer standard? Nothing wrong with having a few handier games in the league when the other teams are busting themselves to avoid the drop.
IMO the stronger teams have a certain responsibility to help the aspiring teams inprove.
If we had this, after a few years we really would see which clubs have ambition and those living on past glories might get a rude awakening. This is what the most successful lobbyists at county convention fear most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on June 14, 2011, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 13, 2011, 08:40:25 AM
Is the future Orange?

Armagh 0-14 Down 1-10

What happened here?
No... A good win for Armagh but Down hardly wanted to face Antrim for a pasting after recent results. Antrim will hammer Armagh unfortunately as we are still a football dominated county. non the less good experience. There are lots of structural and strategic problems within Armagh Club Hurling which the County teams performances paper over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 14, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
 The truth is that a lot of clubs don't have the player base to maintain senior hurling at top level.They don't have the youngsters coming through,especially when they are competing with football. Maybe they should be looking at amalgamation from minor level up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2011, 08:38:09 AM
Thats where I am talking about the hard work going in, into the juvenille section over a sustained period of time, not saying this is easy but this is the only way to achieve the tradition.

I know there are some of the clubs working hard against a tide from within their own clubs and I think they should recieve more support in such a massive urban area. But this continual tinkering with the league structure IMO is like a sticking plaster over a gaping wound.

Time for everyone to take responsibility for their part in the regeneration of these clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 15, 2011, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
DearyMe

I can clearly judge hurling clubs that I know and know what they are doing and not doing. Hence my point was they are in Div 2 for a reason and we shouldnt be clamouring to get anyone back to Div 1 until they earn that right.

If they arent prepared to put the work in continually then they deserve to be where they are, if its recreational hurling they want then there are leagues for that too.

Point being Div 1 should be the pinacle and should be treated as such.

So you know what clubs are and arent doing? Very good, i clearly have underestimated the posters on this site.
Tell me NAG - in relation to Sarsfields getting to an Under 21 Final, (did Glenariffe compete in this competition?) Would you think that there is 'enough work' being done there to satisfy your criteria for div 1? And if so surely there were only a few points between those they beat, and what they were eventually beaten by. so surely other clubs are working hard aswell!

So i would say in relation to whats coming through - doesnt seem to be a lot seperating these teams (and before anyone jumps in - i know how difficult it is to sustain this through to senior level).

And by the way NAG - teams dont just 'amble' into div 1, they work hard to get there, they are fully aware of its status and the work involved to stay there - if they go down again straight away they will have progressed, and tasted 'your' forbidden fruit enough to want another taste!

Beginning to agree with Last Man here - get the wall up quick!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 15, 2011, 10:04:15 AM
Aye Nag, best not to rely on hear say, I do accept your point but in reality its not that black and white. All the current Div 1 clubs do not have a perfect record in working to produce juvenile talent for various reasons but in some cases just taking their eye off the ball at stages, it remains to be seen the effect of these gaps at senior. I know last years u16 Antrim squad was backboned by Belfast players so there must be more work going on than you think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2011, 10:36:50 AM
Lads, I agree with you on some of the points, am not saying its black and white. But the point is that some of these clubs are big big clubs who neglected their own development and are noW paying the price.

Obviously sarsfields played in the u21 final my point is that if they continue to stay together and develop as a team and as a club then if they get to Div 1 then of course they will deserve I would just hope that they wouldnt just rely on this bunch of talented players and try to keep adding 3-4 players to their senior squad every year from their juvenille section.

My second point on that, you have raised for me, I would say that in 5-6 years time those Loughgiel players which sarsfields IMO played off the park if the current trend stays the same will be competing in county finals, I will be suprised if Sarsfields are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
According to the Hogan Stand Shane McNaughton is away to America for the summer. Is he injured and is going to work or going to hurl?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 15, 2011, 09:26:21 PM
Shane's away on a 2 month sanction like Graffin did last year. He'll be back in August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2011, 09:35:08 AM
Any verdicts or predictions for tomorrow night.

I honestly think we will struggle to put them away, especially if the weather keeps up the way it is.

Any word on what the story is with the league fixtures for sunday or is it totally result dependant on saturday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 17, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
I would let them go ahead regardless!

What damage would it do.

Would be ragin to find out sunday mornin! - If i were involved would want to know straight after game.

Everyone bigging Antrim up - dont think it will be as easy as Racing Post are making out!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
I dont think it will be a matter or finding out sunday morning, will be a case of depending on getting the right result Dinny walks in after the game and says ''no one is playing any league hurling tomorrow. We have a game next week and we are preparing for it.'' Which you cant blame him for at the end of the day, but there should be a bit better planning for this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2011, 10:52:28 AM
Tomorrow night NAG?

The game is at 3.00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
well you get my meaning, even more time then for the clubs to be told that their games are not happening  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 17, 2011, 11:14:05 AM
Ballycastle have cancelled their reserve game with us.

How a town the size of Ballycastle can't put out two adult teams (over 16's) tells its own tale.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2011, 11:20:52 AM
Think they also had a failed to field in that at the weekend against Dunloy JC.

Says alot about them and the direction they are heading IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 17, 2011, 12:48:15 PM
From hoganstand

Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has made wholesale changes to his team for tomorrow's All-Ireland hurling qualifier against Westmeath at Casement Park.

Chris O'Connell returns in goal, Ciaran Herron switches from left half back to midfield to partner Paul Shiels, Neal McAuley returns from suspension at left half back, Kieran McGourty comes in at left corner back and James Black at top of the left.

Dropped from the side that lost to Wexford in the Leinster SHC quarter-final are Sean Hawes, Kevin Molloy, Barry McFall and Eddie McCloskey.

Antrim (SH v Westmeath): C O'Connell; C McGuinness, C Donnelly, Kieran McGourty; A Graffin, M Herron, N McAuley; P Shiels, C Herron; S McCrory, K Stewart, N McManus; C McCann, D Hamill, J Black.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 17, 2011, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 17, 2011, 12:48:15 PM
From hoganstand

Antrim hurling manager Dinny Cahill has made wholesale changes to his team for tomorrow's All-Ireland hurling qualifier against Westmeath at Casement Park.

Chris O'Connell returns in goal, Ciaran Herron switches from left half back to midfield to partner Paul Shiels, Neal McAuley returns from suspension at left half back, Kieran McGourty comes in at left corner back and James Black at top of the left.

Dropped from the side that lost to Wexford in the Leinster SHC quarter-final are Sean Hawes, Kevin Molloy, Barry McFall and Eddie McCloskey.

Antrim (SH v Westmeath): C O'Connell; C McGuinness, C Donnelly, Kieran McGourty; A Graffin, M Herron, N McAuley; P Shiels, C Herron; S McCrory, K Stewart, N McManus; C McCann, D Hamill, J Black.

Is Hawes not injured rather than dropped??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on June 17, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
JC I would think they have found themselves extremely short staffed at senior level. i would imagine they wouldnt have predicted anything like this a couple of years ago. If you think of the people they are missing at senior, this will mean they would have to play reserves in their place. Think who they are missing.

ryan mc garry - oz
hippy - county
mc auley - county
matthew donnelly - county
cossie - presuming injured
peter dallet - working in england
michael dallet - suspended
Shane Jennins - football
Ciaran Clark - football

God knows who else is missing due to exams at the moment aswell. i would think any team would struggle to field a good senior team while missing 9 starting seniors, this would prob mean their reserves would be ridiculously short. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 17, 2011, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: ruairi on June 17, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
JC I would think they have found themselves extremely short staffed at senior level. i would imagine they wouldnt have predicted anything like this a couple of years ago. If you think of the people they are missing at senior, this will mean they would have to play reserves in their place. Think who they are missing.

ryan mc garry - oz
hippy - county
mc auley - county
matthew donnelly - county
cossie - presuming injured
peter dallet - working in england
michael dallet - suspended
Shane Jennins - football
Ciaran Clark - football

God knows who else is missing due to exams at the moment aswell. i would think any team would struggle to field a good senior team while missing 9 starting seniors, this would prob mean their reserves would be ridiculously short.

Obvious evidence of this is the extremely poor team they put out in the Feis Quarter Final last night - it was the skeleton of their reserve team that we beat last week, 7.16 to 1.5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on June 17, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
It is understandable though. They have done a decent job bringing through quite a number of players through their juvenile setup but at the moment really aren't benefitting from that.

Unfortunate position but you don't hear them on here complaining about it. I suppose its just a matter of getting on with it and getting a few of them back again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 12:23:04 AM
Quote from: ruairi on June 17, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
It is understandable though. They have done a decent job bringing through quite a number of players through their juvenile setup but at the moment really aren't benefitting from that.

Unfortunate position but you don't hear them on here complaining about it. I suppose its just a matter of getting on with it and getting a few of them back again.
Aren't every club missing players though, for whatever reason?  I think that interest in hurling has been waning in the town for some time. Which  is bemusing more than anything, considering their history. They've got some good young hurlers, but where are the experienced fellas to call on when the younger ones aren't available? It's a sad state of affairs when a club with the history of Ballycastle are struggling to field teams. I thought that things were picking up on Leyland road. If Ballycastle were stronger, Antrim would be stronger. I would love to see them contesting for Antrim titles again, but not until we've matched and bettered their tally, of course.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 18, 2011, 03:45:22 PM
Half Time

Antrim 2:16 - 1:09 Westmeath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 18, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
Conor McCann with both goals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 18, 2011, 04:22:41 PM
That's an impressive start to championship hurling for young McCann, 3:5 in 2 and half matches! Heard nothing off him coming through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2011, 04:52:26 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on June 18, 2011, 03:45:22 PM
Half Time

Antrim 2:16 - 1:09 Westmeath

Full Time

Antrim 2-25 Westmeath 1-19

Cork stick ten goals past Laois
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
Eldest's birthday party so didn't get up. Hear they allowed Westmeath back into in second half. It's a frustrating habit Antrim have shown for a long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 18, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
Just heard on news that Glenarm club was paint bombed and their marquee was burnt last night ahead of their cross-community event as part of Dalriada festival today.  Useless cnuts starting the usual shite again at this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on June 18, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 18, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
Just heard on news that Glenarm club was paint bombed and their marquee was burnt last night ahead of their cross-community event as part of Dalriada festival today.  Useless cnuts starting the usual shite again at this time of year.

Just the typical shite from the bigoted scumbags that live in Glenarm. Tensions have been running high between Carnlough and Glenarm for a good while now. This might just set it all of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2011, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
Eldest's birthday party so didn't get up. Hear they allowed Westmeath back into in second half. It's a frustrating habit Antrim have shown for a long time.

Was three points in it after 15 minutes of the second half, Antrim fell asleep and kept playing high ball with the wind in the second half. got into gear after that.

They played some great hurling in the first half and took some great scores also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 18, 2011, 07:42:58 PM
Are the club matches on tomorrow??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2011, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2011, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
Eldest's birthday party so didn't get up. Hear they allowed Westmeath back into in second half. It's a frustrating habit Antrim have shown for a long time.

Was three points in it after 15 minutes of the second half, Antrim fell asleep and kept playing high ball with the wind in the second half. got into gear after that.

They played some great hurling in the first half and took some great scores also

Yes our defense steadied up a bit, but I though westmeath running out of steam (after a very intense 20 minute second half period of dominance) was the main factor for the turn around when it went to 3. WM worked the ball brilliantly in those 15-20 minutes. First half was top notch for Antrim with really intelligent play taking place all over the park, but we never got out of the blocks at the start of the second and began to panic clearances and deliver hit and hope ball up to the forwards when WM were taking the hand out of us with their possession game. Didn't react quick enough to that, but overall a fine display.

If they could get bring that first half display into the second, then I'd go to any game optimistic. I think they will learn from that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Houl on ffs, you've only just bettered Rossa and they have as many in football.
Yes, indeed. A proud moment for the Shamrocks. Rossa have a great tradition in Antrim hurling. I don't quite know what you mean by that. What's football got to do with anything? If we win a couple more championships we'll have won 19, top of the pile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2011, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Houl on ffs, you've only just bettered Rossa and they have as many in football.
Yes, indeed. A proud moment for the Shamrocks. Rossa have a great tradition in Antrim hurling. I don't quite know what you mean by that. What's football got to do with anything? If we win a couple more championships we'll have won 19, top of the pile.
If...
Well, I wasn't going to say when, was I? We're much too modest for that in Loughgiel. It's inevitable really. Ballycastle and Rossa aren't going to win the championship anytime soon, more's the pity. And the near neighbours got close but the wheels are falling off the wagon over there. The white elephant is more important at the minute. Sure it's handy for us to use it in the winter.  It's good to get your priorities right though.  ;)

All I can see is Cushendall and Loughgiel sharing the championship for the next 5 or 6 years. It's a matter of time and one thing Shamrocks supporters have is patience. We will be top of the pile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 19, 2011, 07:50:28 AM
I see silly season has arrived for some.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 12:23:04 AM
Quote from: ruairi on June 17, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
It is understandable though. They have done a decent job bringing through quite a number of players through their juvenile setup but at the moment really aren't benefitting from that.

Unfortunate position but you don't hear them on here complaining about it. I suppose its just a matter of getting on with it and getting a few of them back again.
Aren't every club missing players though, for whatever reason?  I think that interest in hurling has been waning in the town for some time. Which  is bemusing more than anything, considering their history. They've got some good young hurlers, but where are the experienced fellas to call on when the younger ones aren't available? It's a sad state of affairs when a club with the history of Ballycastle are struggling to field teams. I thought that things were picking up on Leyland road. If Ballycastle were stronger, Antrim would be stronger. I would love to see them contesting for Antrim titles again, but not until we've matched and bettered their tally, of course.   ;)

Understanding from ruari ogs I can live with but when the Shamrocks are feeling pity for us then I really know we're in deep doo doo!   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Tir na Nog  1-12 2-7 St Galls 
Lamh Dhearg  3-11 0-11 Carey Faughs 
Shane O Neills  0-6 1-19 Ballycastle
Clooney Gaels  2-9 0-17 Gort Na Mona 

OOOooooooooops!  Galls have slipped here though Tir Na Nog gave the town plenty recently too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
St Johns  1-20 1-16 Dunloy 
Ballygalget  1-16 2-12 Glenariffe 
Loughgiel  2-16 2-9 Cushendall

More evidence of the decline of Dunloy and an important result for Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2011, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Tir na Nog  1-12 2-7 St Galls 
Lamh Dhearg  3-11 0-11 Carey Faughs 
Shane O Neills  0-6 1-19 Ballycastle
Clooney Gaels  2-9 0-17 Gort Na Mona 

OOOooooooooops!  Galls have slipped here though Tir Na Nog gave the town plenty recently too.

Wasn't at the game, playing for the reserves but heard we weren't great and couldn't match Tir Na Ogs hunger, they are a battling team with a couple of handy hurlers on their team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2011, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Tir na Nog  1-12 2-7 St Galls 
Lamh Dhearg  3-11 0-11 Carey Faughs 
Shane O Neills  0-6 1-19 Ballycastle
Clooney Gaels  2-9 0-17 Gort Na Mona 

OOOooooooooops!  Galls have slipped here though Tir Na Nog gave the town plenty recently too.

Wasn't at the game, playing for the reserves but heard we weren't great and couldn't match Tir Na Ogs hunger, they are a battling team with a couple of handy hurlers on their team.

They're a hard working side.  A lot of heart.  Nobody beats them easy.  I think the Town beat them by 12 in the very first game but after that they've had good results and even their last defeat by the Town by 8 points was a late goal by the Town that made it look a bigger difference than it should have been.


Adding:

Just had a look at their website 'cos I wondered about the age profile of their team

http://tirnanog.moonfruit.com/#/hurling/4531080063

have a look at the names of their panel.......... ;D

no big stars!  LOL

I don't know anyting about them other than their performances this year but there must must be work going on there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2011, 09:03:31 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2011, 08:21:50 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
Tir na Nog  1-12 2-7 St Galls 
Lamh Dhearg  3-11 0-11 Carey Faughs 
Shane O Neills  0-6 1-19 Ballycastle
Clooney Gaels  2-9 0-17 Gort Na Mona 

OOOooooooooops!  Galls have slipped here though Tir Na Nog gave the town plenty recently too.

Wasn't at the game, playing for the reserves but heard we weren't great and couldn't match Tir Na Ogs hunger, they are a battling team with a couple of handy hurlers on their team.

They're a hard working side.  A lot of heart.  Nobody beats them easy.  I think the Town beat them by 12 in the very first game but after that they've had good results and even their last defeat by the Town by 8 points was a late goal by the Town that made it look a bigger difference than it should have been.


Adding:

Just had a look at their website 'cos I wondered about the age profile of their team

http://tirnanog.moonfruit.com/#/hurling/4531080063

have a look at the names of their panel.......... ;D

no big stars!  LOL

I don't know anyting about them other than their performances this year but there must must be work going on there.

That's class!!  Never heard of the Bloggs from Randlestown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2011, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
St Johns  1-20 1-16 Dunloy 
Ballygalget  1-16 2-12 Glenariffe 
Loughgiel  2-16 2-9 Cushendall

More evidence of the decline of Dunloy and an important result for Loughgiel.

Heard it was a heavily depleted Dunloy side dont think they will be in a worry about that one, good results for St Johns and LG. Wonder how Dinny feels about the games going ahead, all the word from casement from within the camp was that the games were off!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 20, 2011, 02:07:13 PM
Heard a whisper- St.Johns should have won by more.

They had a couple of goals disallowed?

Again, i'm hearing Ray Matthews had a stinker - but thats coming from st.johns ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 20, 2011, 03:01:32 PM
Thought he was supposed to retire after last years County Final? Niggling injury I heard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 20, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 20, 2011, 03:01:32 PM
Thought he was supposed to retire after last years County Final? Niggling injury I heard?


His personality?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 20, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
Had a discussion with him the Tuesday after the county final...he told me he was going through a rigorous physio and training programme through the winter to keep him at it.  Agree gelvis, pity he couldn't find some sort of programme for his personality.  Complete bell end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 20, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Catch yourselves on ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 20, 2011, 11:22:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 20, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Catch yourselves on ffs

Agreed.  We can all have opinions but slagging named people while hiding behind a username isn't on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2011, 08:51:44 AM
Id reccomend removing both those posts.

Totally out of order for a man giving up his spare time to do a job that very few would do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 09:07:24 AM
Agreed, i know the man well and he gives up a serious amount of work to referee games, remember he doesn't give a flying fcuk who wins these games, he like all the other referees (myself included) try and call it as you see it. Interpretation of the rules can be the thing that annoys supporters and players but if we didn't have referees we wouldn't have any games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on June 21, 2011, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 09:07:24 AM
Agreed, i know the man well and he gives up a serious amount of work to referee games, remember he doesn't give a flying fcuk who wins these games, he like all the other referees (myself included) try and call it as you see it. Interpretation of the rules can be the thing that annoys supporters and players but if we didn't have referees we wouldn't have any games.
I have to agree, Ray is one of the best ref's around. This is unfair comment. Ref's can make mistakes and have off days, this doesn't make them biased.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2011, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Houl on ffs, you've only just bettered Rossa and they have as many in football.
Yes, indeed. A proud moment for the Shamrocks. Rossa have a great tradition in Antrim hurling. I don't quite know what you mean by that. What's football got to do with anything? If we win a couple more championships we'll have won 19, top of the pile.
If...
Well, I wasn't going to say when, was I? We're much too modest for that in Loughgiel. It's inevitable really. Ballycastle and Rossa aren't going to win the championship anytime soon, more's the pity. And the near neighbours got close but the wheels are falling off the wagon over there. The white elephant is more important at the minute. Sure it's handy for us to use it in the winter.  It's good to get your priorities right though.  ;)

All I can see is Cushendall and Loughgiel sharing the championship for the next 5 or 6 years. It's a matter of time and one thing Shamrocks supporters have is patience. We will be top of the pile.

I think the point is that Rossa have managed to build up a big tally of championships despite being committed to dual codes. That is, BC and Sharwocks can concentrate on hurling over their history while Rossa effectively matched them with only half the resources/opportuinites as they committed to hurling also. What is more interesteing however is the current evidence show this is no longer possiible? Dual clubs are either dominant in one code, or mediocre in both! Although as a Belfast man myself note that the vast majority of dual clubs are Belfast based! Not half a clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on June 21, 2011, 01:40:31 PM
btdtgtt Ballycastle are a dual club!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 21, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on June 21, 2011, 01:40:31 PM
btdtgtt Ballycastle are a dual club!!
Aye Hurling and soccer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2011, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 21, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on June 21, 2011, 01:40:31 PM
btdtgtt Ballycastle are a dual club!!
Aye Hurling and soccer.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 21, 2011, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 21, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2011, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Houl on ffs, you've only just bettered Rossa and they have as many in football.
Yes, indeed. A proud moment for the Shamrocks. Rossa have a great tradition in Antrim hurling. I don't quite know what you mean by that. What's football got to do with anything? If we win a couple more championships we'll have won 19, top of the pile.
If...
Well, I wasn't going to say when, was I? We're much too modest for that in Loughgiel. It's inevitable really. Ballycastle and Rossa aren't going to win the championship anytime soon, more's the pity. And the near neighbours got close but the wheels are falling off the wagon over there. The white elephant is more important at the minute. Sure it's handy for us to use it in the winter.  It's good to get your priorities right though.  ;)

All I can see is Cushendall and Loughgiel sharing the championship for the next 5 or 6 years. It's a matter of time and one thing Shamrocks supporters have is patience. We will be top of the pile.

I think the point is that Rossa have managed to build up a big tally of championships despite being committed to dual codes. That is, BC and Sharwocks can concentrate on hurling over their history while Rossa effectively matched them with only half the resources/opportuinites as they committed to hurling also. What is more interesteing however is the current evidence show this is no longer possiible? Dual clubs are either dominant in one code, or mediocre in both! Although as a Belfast man myself note that the vast majority of dual clubs are Belfast based! Not half a clubs!


We've been called many things in the past but I think this is a first  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 21, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
If Antrim beat Carlow are we in the 1/4 finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
If Antrim beat Carlow are we in the 1/4 finals?

No.  See the following chart.  A win takes us to Phase III.  A win there takes us to QF

http://www.gaa.ie/content/downloads/wallcharts/hurling_wallchart_results_2011.pdf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on June 21, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Keep praying anyway ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 10:57:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 21, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Keep praying anyway ;D

Pray? HUH !

Antrim County board have purchased an ox which will be sacrificed to the goddess Nike in the centre of Casement in a ceremony to take place 3 hours before throw in.  All pagans patrons required to attend


The ox will be slaughtered by an infamous hatchetman from the St Galls club now playing reserve hurling  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 11:38:12 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 10:57:42 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on June 21, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Keep praying anyway ;D

Pray? HUH !

Antrim County board have purchased an ox which will be sacrificed to the goddess Nike in the centre of Casement in a ceremony to take place 3 hours before throw in.  All pagans patrons required to attend


The ox will be slaughtered by an infamous hatchetman from the St Galls club now playing reserve hurling  :D

Hmmmm, I was never a hatchet man ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Could end up with Offaly, Wexford, Clare. All of which we could beat if we were on song. The other teams would beat us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on June 22, 2011, 12:04:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Could end up with Offaly, Wexford, Clare. All of which we could beat if we were on song. The other teams would beat us

I think we would struggle against Clare. They were very impressive against Tipperary apart from some dodgy defending. Offaly seem to be in a bit of a crisis and we might have beaten Wexford if it were not for a second half collapse so i think there is a strong possibility we could beat either of them but it depends on what Antrim team shows up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2011, 08:41:40 AM
We need to cut out the stupid mistakes. Offaly / Wexford or Clare would murder us for some of the mistakes we made on saturday.

I don't think we're currently at a level to beat Offaly / Wwexford / Clare. A lot of our team need to hit the weights - very easy brushed off the ball - and these boys would punish you for it. I think we could compete though but they're  abit above us at present. Westmeath were cutting through the middle of our defense far too easily too - we need to cut that out.

Not sure what Carlow are like this year. They will be sore from that defeat last year as they could and should have won it. One thing is for sure - the referee can't be as bad as that game last year. That was the worst refereeing performance I ever saw - one free in the first 25 minutes for antrim when there were at the very least half a dozen to a dozen fouls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2011, 09:35:27 AM
Spot on Tommy Gunn. I think we are superior to Carlow & Westmeath on a level playing field.

A big performance would allow us to compete against Offaly and Wexford.

We cannot compete physically with Clare - and are way off the level of the rest.

I think the All_Ire series have developed into a procession of fixtures until the 1/4final stages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2011, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Quote from: Gold on June 21, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 21, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 21, 2011, 07:37:20 PM
So we could play Wexford again in Phase III?


It says

"Subject to avoidance of repeat pairings, where feasible ....."

So if it isn't feasible to avoid repeat parings it's possible.   ;D

no 1/4 finals for us then so

Could end up with Offaly, Wexford, Clare. All of which we could beat if we were on song. The other teams would beat us

As I understand it, the line ups at the minute are:

1. Antrim v Carlow (Phase 1 - our match against Westmeath was a preliminary match)

2. Cork v. Offaly (Phase 1)

3. Limerick v. Wexford (Phase 2)

4. Clare v. Galway (Phase 2)

Winners of Phase 1 play winners of Phase 2.

So assuming we beat Carlow, we play either the winners of Limerick v. Wexford or the winners of Clare v. Galway - we can't play the winners of Cork v. Offaly.

Given the idea is to avoid repeat pairings (ie Wexford), we will pay Limerick, Clare or Galway. In order of preference, I think i would want them in reverse order to the way I've just set them out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 22, 2011, 04:46:07 PM
Who do we meet in the Final in September ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2011, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 21, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2011, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2011, 11:51:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
Houl on ffs, you've only just bettered Rossa and they have as many in football.
Yes, indeed. A proud moment for the Shamrocks. Rossa have a great tradition in Antrim hurling. I don't quite know what you mean by that. What's football got to do with anything? If we win a couple more championships we'll have won 19, top of the pile.
If...
Well, I wasn't going to say when, was I? We're much too modest for that in Loughgiel. It's inevitable really. Ballycastle and Rossa aren't going to win the championship anytime soon, more's the pity. And the near neighbours got close but the wheels are falling off the wagon over there. The white elephant is more important at the minute. Sure it's handy for us to use it in the winter.  It's good to get your priorities right though.  ;)

All I can see is Cushendall and Loughgiel sharing the championship for the next 5 or 6 years. It's a matter of time and one thing Shamrocks supporters have is patience. We will be top of the pile.

I think the point is that Rossa have managed to build up a big tally of championships despite being committed to dual codes. That is, BC and Sharwocks can concentrate on hurling over their history while Rossa effectively matched them with only half the resources/opportuinites as they committed to hurling also. What is more interesteing however is the current evidence show this is no longer possiible? Dual clubs are either dominant in one code, or mediocre in both! Although as a Belfast man myself note that the vast majority of dual clubs are Belfast based! Not half a clubs!
Well this is a hypothetical argument, of course. Being in so much as there was no real tradition of football in either Loughgiel or Ballycastle during those times. Who knows, maybe we'd be going for top of the pile in football as well if things had been different. And I'd have though being a city club Rossa would have had more players to choose from to play both codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
I'd say Loughgiel would have a bigger membership than Rossa and most other city clubs!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2011, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
I'd say Loughgiel would have a bigger membership than Rossa and most other city clubs!!
Perhaps now, especially after winning the championship last year. Maybe not back in the day.

On another note, Winker is going for another op on Friday.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2011, 10:40:22 PM
You have the biggest parish!! Also its not your first championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
Land mass or population though MR?? Bit sparser populated up in the country!!

I would imagine Loughgiel would probably have more membership than all 3 of those shaws road clubs combined and maybe then some. The Johnnies should have a right big membership - not sure of st galls but would guess big enough there too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2011, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2011, 10:40:22 PM
You have the biggest parish!! Also its not your first championship
It was a while between championships though. And a bigger parish than the falls? I don't think so mate. Perhaps by area, yes, certainly not by population.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2011, 08:33:41 AM
Yeah but dont forget the outlying parishes of Cloughmills and Armoy and any others that have to be factored into that calculation.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Guys the issue of parishes and population surely is straightwforward? I have no doubt the rural clubs in Antrim (certainly Loughuile) enjoy much greater numbers to chose from.

I mean look at the Falls Rd - there is roughly a dozen clubs all of which play two codes (and other issues) - compared to say Loughuile, one club and one code! Come on Seamroga etc - you cannot dispute the slant here!

The oul line of "the whole city to chose from" is way off the mark also! Players generally come from West Belfast and are divided through a huge number (perhaps too many) clubs.

And thats before we even look at land availaility. Loughuile have two pitches to divide amongst their hurlers - look at St Pauls Sarsfields Rossa StJohns etc with both codes across every age group trying to share one pitch!

Also, if Loughuile are concerned about not having the opportunity to win football championships maybe they should start a team - I think not! The reality is that it is to the detriment of hurling and Belfast clubs have proved this in an attempt to be a complete GAA club. Credit Ballycastle & Dunloy for being dual clubs altho perhaps one major and minor code. Clooney Gaels another example deserving credit.

Now I concede there are many other factors in determining success but surely no right thinking Gael could suggest that rural clubs like Loughuile etc dont have a major advantage ingrained in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2011, 10:33:35 AM
Yeah but the rural places are so much more sparsely populated.

The fulcrum of a lot of communities in rural areas is the GAA club. That is not so much the case for cities.

That will mean much larger percentages of rural communities will play hurling meaning the size of the parish, especially come senior time, really means nothing.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2011, 10:42:05 AM
btdtgtt
Contact Ciara Ferry Antrim Games Manager for the survey carried out around primary schools around the county. The participation levels in some west belfast schools is shocking. Not saying that is solely the clubs fault as there will of course be societal issues at play here. I do think some well supported initiatives need to be developed to get primary schools linked to clubs (10 year plan). The clubs would of course need to have the infastructure (pitches/volunteers/finance/healthy atmosphere) to deliver the positive experience. Not easy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
Dont hold out much hope for the survey making any sesne.

It has been a well recognised fact that the city kids are harder to get involved in a club and what are we doing about it? IMO wasting time trying to chase the 'new Irish' and our unionist brethern in to playing our games and totally neglecting our core constituents.
Im not against reaching out at all, but I am against it when it comes at the detriment of promotion within our heartland which is West Belfast, we have limited resources and if we are putting them into these PR projects we dont have them for the core values.

We have limited resources because Croke park are playing lip service to us in promoting hurling and football in our second largest urban area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2011, 11:45:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
Dont hold out much hope for the survey making any sesne.

It has been a well recognised fact that the city kids are harder to get involved in a club and what are we doing about it? IMO wasting time trying to chase the 'new Irish' and our unionist brethern in to playing our games and totally neglecting our core constituents.
Im not against reaching out at all, but I am against it when it comes at the detriment of promotion within our heartland which is West Belfast, we have limited resources and if we are putting them into these PR projects we dont have them for the core values.

We have limited resources because Croke park are playing lip service to us in promoting hurling and football in our second largest urban area.

Thats 100% NAGG!! We cannot talk about GAA and then rely on schools - these are two different entities! Yes there has been much fantastic work and yes they are an opportunity - but its is clubs that are the basis! Talk to any teacher - their priority is exam results not hurling! There is little funding etc for a teacher to give up voluntary times especially when so many do it already WITH CLUBS!

As for the comparsion here to rural areas - I note Garron Tower and St Louis and C&P are hardly dominating across schools hurling! St Marys have by far a better record across a number of years so the indicator is a false one!

Also your point about chasing the brethren is excellent. Christy Cooney can go to the Shankill and do a nice political photoshoot - but he will be better place jumping over the peace-wall and looking at the dire straits of genuine clubs - in terms of both numbers and finances. Maybe Croke Pk HQ and all their money has become too separated from grassroots!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Rural schools in antrim split clubs though which wouldn't so much be the same for city schools.

You look at say for example St Marys CBS. It's a who's who of Belfast hurling every year for the given age group.

Rural schools could have Cushendall players among 2 or 3 different schools, Dunloy among a few - even Ballycastle ones go to C&P, GT and Loreot Coleraine. Loughgiel would be across a few too.

That's why they're not dominant or even winning much - you're never playing the best from north antrim when you play a north antrim school.

St Pats Maghera is like that in south derry. Their school team is effectively south derry's best, and some north thrown in, for that particular age.

Coaching in each of the rural schools will still improve the players in their catchment areas though...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
I wasn't inferring that we rely on schools...I was simply highlighting a fact that there is a shockingly low level of participation in the primary school population in the west (i.e and that means the whole population over time) and that that needs a bit of joined up thinking between the clubs and high levels within the GAA to improve on the current figures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2011, 01:17:49 PM
Skull,

That is one of the key elements to the GAA's strategy, club school links and how are we pushing that in Belfast?
Obviously not well enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2011, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2011, 08:33:41 AM
Yeah but dont forget the outlying parishes of Cloughmills and Armoy and any others that have to be factored into that calculation.  ;)
Most clubs have players playing for them from outside the parish, some even have some from other counties.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2011, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 23, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Guys the issue of parishes and population surely is straightwforward? I have no doubt the rural clubs in Antrim (certainly Loughuile) enjoy much greater numbers to chose from.

I mean look at the Falls Rd - there is roughly a dozen clubs all of which play two codes (and other issues) - compared to say Loughuile, one club and one code! Come on Seamroga etc - you cannot dispute the slant here!

The oul line of "the whole city to chose from" is way off the mark also! Players generally come from West Belfast and are divided through a huge number (perhaps too many) clubs.

And thats before we even look at land availaility. Loughuile have two pitches to divide amongst their hurlers - look at St Pauls Sarsfields Rossa StJohns etc with both codes across every age group trying to share one pitch!

Also, if Loughuile are concerned about not having the opportunity to win football championships maybe they should start a team - I think not! The reality is that it is to the detriment of hurling and Belfast clubs have proved this in an attempt to be a complete GAA club. Credit Ballycastle & Dunloy for being dual clubs altho perhaps one major and minor code. Clooney Gaels another example deserving credit.

Now I concede there are many other factors in determining success but surely no right thinking Gael could suggest that rural clubs like Loughuile etc dont have a major advantage ingrained in this regard.
I don't think it's as clear cut as you think.  I wouldn't have thought there would be much more than 3000 people within the boundary of loughgiel parish, if even that. I don't know if there's more than that or not in the city parishes but I would think there is.

Does your ideology apply to Cargin as well? Football is the only game there I believe. I don't think anyone suggested that Loughgiel were concerned with football at all. In fact there was a junior football club formed a few years back, early eighties I think, but fizzled out due to lack of interest.

And if a lack of space is causing clubs in the city to be less successful perhaps it's time a few of them looked at amalgamating like they do down south.   ;)

It's hardly our fault we've got room. By the way, the 2 pitches are going to be 3 in the near future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 24, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
From county site

Christopher O Connell

Christopher McGuinness
Cormac Donnelly
Kieran McGourty

Aaron Graffin
Michael Herron
Neal McAuley

Paul Shiels
Kevin Molloy

Simon McCrory
Karl Stewart
Eddie McCloskey

Conor McCann
Darren Hamill
Neil McManus

Ciaran Cunningham
Barry McFall
Thomas McCann
Kevin McKeague
Colm McFall
James Black
Ciaran Herron
Karl McKeegan
Matthew Donnelly
Paddy Doherty
James McCouaig
Joey Scullion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2011, 09:33:57 AM
Seamroga I congratulate you on your third pitch - the comparison with urban clubs shouldnt hold anyone else with the opportunity back but that doesnt change that its a massive advantage. That said, the fact the football "failed" is also without coincidence a massive advatage over clubs which promote all our games - rather than just one. With this in mind - maybe Shamrocks themselves will be frustrated by their championship count. Maybe Shamrocks would admit their tally should be greater than it is?! On a similar note, whats the story with Watson? I hear he has been released from Donegal Celtic?! Is there another operation? Who is paying? I would love to see him in a saffron jersey again soon but I fear for it to be honest...

One other point on schools NAG - St Marys are certainly not a catch all elite of the best players in the city - not one bit! Plenty of the best players from Rossa StJohns Sarsfields etc attend La Salle and Rathmore! More so than ever! All schools are a collection from different clubs regardless of geography.

Also - what do you guys think the attendance will be like at Casement? I wonder where the patrons attending both games will largely come from?! Ach only a jibe! Anyway do you guys think we'll get a big turn out for either game or both?
I think our hurlers should win handy anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2011, 09:33:57 AM
Seamroga I congratulate you on your third pitch - the comparison with urban clubs shouldnt hold anyone else with the opportunity back but that doesnt change that its a massive advantage. That said, the fact the football "failed" is also without coincidence a massive advatage over clubs which promote all our games - rather than just one. With this in mind - maybe Shamrocks themselves will be frustrated by their championship count. Maybe Shamrocks would admit their tally should be greater than it is?! On a similar note, whats the story with Watson? I hear he has been released from Donegal Celtic?! Is there another operation? Who is paying? I would love to see him in a saffron jersey again soon but I fear for it to be honest...

One other point on schools NAG - St Marys are certainly not a catch all elite of the best players in the city - not one bit! Plenty of the best players from Rossa StJohns Sarsfields etc attend La Salle and Rathmore! More so than ever! All schools are a collection from different clubs regardless of geography.

Also - what do you guys think the attendance will be like at Casement? I wonder where the patrons attending both games will largely come from?! Ach only a jibe! Anyway do you guys think we'll get a big turn out for either game or both?
I think our hurlers should win handy anyway.

Havent heard who is paying but you can rest assured it will not be DC.

Also btdtgtt, I never mentioned St Marys in any of my posts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
I don't really know where you're going with this. Wouldn't every club want to have won more championships? You could also apply your logic to Ballycastle, Cushendall and Cargin. Should they not also have won many more championships?  Also what  I gather from your posts is that you believe it's the same players playing both codes. That's simply not the case. There are some dual players of course, they're the exception not the norm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2011, 12:05:01 PM
Seamroga I think his point is pretty clear.

A single code club like LG or Cargan should be dominating their chosen code, as they do not have the distraction of having to work around the dual clubs fixtures etc Therefore yes they theoretically should have more championship wins than an equivalent dual club.

You look at most dual clubs and they will have a core or players playing in both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2011, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 24, 2011, 12:05:01 PM
Seamroga I think his point is pretty clear.

A single code club like LG or Cargan should be dominating their chosen code, as they do not have the distraction of having to work around the dual clubs fixtures etc Therefore yes they theoretically should have more championship wins than an equivalent dual club.

You look at most dual clubs and they will have a core or players playing in both.

The year we won the All Ireland Senior and lost the Intermedaite final we had 9 players who were on the senior team and the rest all played reserve football!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2011, 01:11:53 PM
Glastonbury  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 07:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 24, 2011, 12:05:01 PM
Seamroga I think his point is pretty clear.

A single code club like LG or Cargan should be dominating their chosen code, as they do not have the distraction of having to work around the dual clubs fixtures etc Therefore yes they theoretically should have more championship wins than an equivalent dual club.

You look at most dual clubs and they will have a core or players playing in both.
Like Cushendall as well, let's not leave our friends over the hill out.  ;)

I still think that numbers has a lot to do with it. Probably not so much now but I believe years ago when the likes of Rossa and the Johnnies were winning championships consistently they'd have had a larger group of players to choose from than say LG, CD or BC.

Whatever, I can't see a football team running out from Loughguile any time soon. If there's no interest, there's no interest. Personally, I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll share the idea next opportunity I get. Even if the idea is passed and we get a team gathered up, we've got no one to coach it properly. I mean, we don't want to be accused of bringing in coaches from other clubs. Heaven forbid!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 24, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2011, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 23, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Guys the issue of parishes and population surely is straightwforward? I have no doubt the rural clubs in Antrim (certainly Loughuile) enjoy much greater numbers to chose from.

I mean look at the Falls Rd - there is roughly a dozen clubs all of which play two codes (and other issues) - compared to say Loughuile, one club and one code! Come on Seamroga etc - you cannot dispute the slant here!

The oul line of "the whole city to chose from" is way off the mark also! Players generally come from West Belfast and are divided through a huge number (perhaps too many) clubs.

And thats before we even look at land availaility. Loughuile have two pitches to divide amongst their hurlers - look at St Pauls Sarsfields Rossa StJohns etc with both codes across every age group trying to share one pitch!

Also, if Loughuile are concerned about not having the opportunity to win football championships maybe they should start a team - I think not! The reality is that it is to the detriment of hurling and Belfast clubs have proved this in an attempt to be a complete GAA club. Credit Ballycastle & Dunloy for being dual clubs altho perhaps one major and minor code. Clooney Gaels another example deserving credit.

Now I concede there are many other factors in determining success but surely no right thinking Gael could suggest that rural clubs like Loughuile etc dont have a major advantage ingrained in this regard.
I don't think it's as clear cut as you think.  I wouldn't have thought there would be much more than 3000 people within the boundary of loughgiel parish, if even that. I don't know if there's more than that or not in the city parishes but I would think there is.

Does your ideology apply to Cargin as well? Football is the only game there I believe. I don't think anyone suggested that Loughgiel were concerned with football at all. In fact there was a junior football club formed a few years back, early eighties I think, but fizzled out due to lack of interest.

And if a lack of space is causing clubs in the city to be less successful perhaps it's time a few of them looked at amalgamating like they do down south.   ;)

It's hardly our fault we've got room. By the way, the 2 pitches are going to be 3 in the near future.

You see the city clubs don't have a Patsy to cough up an ould field or three  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 08:52:01 PM
 :D There aren't too many Patsy's willing to cough up for nothing though.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 07:19:42 PM

Whatever, I can't see a football team running out from Loughguile any time soon. If there's no interest, there's no interest. Personally, I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll share the idea next opportunity I get. Even if the idea is passed and we get a team gathered up, we've got no one to coach it properly. I mean, we don't want to be accused of bringing in coaches from other clubs. Heaven forbid!

Are you sure you haven't suggested it already?? (hence the username)  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2011, 07:19:42 PM

Whatever, I can't see a football team running out from Loughguile any time soon. If there's no interest, there's no interest. Personally, I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll share the idea next opportunity I get. Even if the idea is passed and we get a team gathered up, we've got no one to coach it properly. I mean, we don't want to be accused of bringing in coaches from other clubs. Heaven forbid!

Are you sure you haven't suggested it already?? (hence the username)  :)
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
Outstanding magnanimity HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 25, 2011, 12:44:33 AM
We've had it happen to us more than once. I'm not going to condone what happened on that day, it was a disgrace. You must remember that we've had players attacked by "supporters" as well,  left needing face reconstruction after minor matches. That too was a disgrace.  But we've moved on from that.  It's time you did as well. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 26, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 25, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
Outstanding magnanimity HS
True. The circle of wagons training is being phased out in Rossa, ahead of minor championship matches agin Loch gCaol.
It used to be that more thought went into getting 'back up' than went into the minor team tactics.
Good to see.

Yet and all, we wouldn't trust that shower of dirty bastids at any time.

No need for that HS.  You dont like Loughgiel, OK, we get it.  I'm not a big fan of your club either but I'm not going to drop to the level that you find yourself at  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2011, 06:26:16 AM
Saturday was quite a good day to be an Antrim supporter then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 27, 2011, 12:34:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2011, 11:24:34 AM
It was and it was a good win because Carlow are no mugs. I thought we were very sluggish though. Stilll, a win is a win.

Chrissy O'Connell's puck outs........in the name of fcuk! :-\

Well, he is from Loughgiel HS !!! ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2011, 12:39:14 PM
That's no excuse for those ridiculously shit puck outs. Not a bad 'keeper but a good kick in the hole needed.
For some reason DD Quinn was pucking them out short last year as well. Thankfully that has stopped. I can only surmise that it was some sort of predetermined tactic. A bad tactic, but a tactic all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2011, 12:39:14 PM
That's no excuse for those ridiculously shit puck outs. Not a bad 'keeper but a good kick in the hole needed.
For some reason DD Quinn was pucking them out short last year as well. Thankfully that has stopped. I can only surmise that it was some sort of predetermined tactic. A bad tactic, but a tactic all the same.

DD did the same in Parnell Seamroga in exile, just pucking the ball to midfield when he could possibly hit the ball further
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2011, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 27, 2011, 12:39:14 PM
That's no excuse for those ridiculously shit puck outs. Not a bad 'keeper but a good kick in the hole needed.
For some reason DD Quinn was pucking them out short last year as well. Thankfully that has stopped. I can only surmise that it was some sort of predetermined tactic. A bad tactic, but a tactic all the same.

DD did the same in Parnell Seamroga in exile, just pucking the ball to midfield when he could possibly hit the ball further
Yep and gave away 3 or 4 (maybe more) points in the process. One in particular where he was lucky not to give away a goal when he tried to puck out to JC over OLG's full forward's head only for the FF to block it with his stick. Like I say, I think he was told to do it. I'm wandering was young O'C told to use the same tactic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
This type of short puck out would appear to be calling the opposing team's bluff.
The opposition drop their full/corner forward into half forward allowing them to swamp the HF/Midfield/HB line with bodies so that they win clean ball or break ball easier.
I assume (hope) COC will have been instructed to hit our full back line with the odd one to 'keep them honest'.
Just on Saturday his execution was seriously poor. If one of those goes wrong for you then quit it and lump the ball out.

Much like the football site not much commentary on the game.
Was seriously frustrating in the first half, Carlow were winning easy ball, dispossessing us easily and hit into acres of space for their corner forwards to run into.
Gradually we got to grips with this, especially in the last 20 mins.
Stewarty scored a couple of crackers to keep us in it and McAuley scored a couple of great long range frees.
McManus started to come into the game a bit more (he seriously makes us tick) and the defence was tighter.
Would appear McGuinness is put on the opposition's danger man in the FF line - he was switched with McGourty and this actually paid dividends.

Herron was good in CHB. He is a big presence, won a few clean catches and picked up some lose ball. At one point I even saw him stopping a fight/calming his fellow players down - who'd have thought it give his previous love for the histrionics!!
Hopefully he is coming of age. His performance at CHB for the minors one year in Parnell (was it Galway or Wexford?) was as good an underage performance in an Antrim shirt that I have ever seen.

Hamill came into it in the second half and scored a couple of good scores. He was given alot of time to do this as his first half performance may have warranted being called ashore. He is certainly fast and good when he gets the ball but was getting outmuscled for the first half and knocked too easily off the ball - if he is full forward next day it might be worth changing the tactics slightly by feeding the right type of ball earlier.

McCann didn't get a sniff of goal but does look an acomplished hurler when he gets the ball.


A few random comments above.

Not sure what the thoughts are on the next stage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
11 changes to the team for the final vs Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
11 changes to the team for the final vs Armagh.

Team named last night?

Would be silly to have that many changes, would he have changed it had he been playing Down?

Armagh gearing up for their first Ulster final in god knows how many years (not sure they have ever been to one) and will come at us from the whistle. They may not have the skill of some of the Antrim players but won't lack fitness nor motivation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2011, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
11 changes to the team for the final vs Armagh.

Team named last night?

Would be silly to have that many changes, would he have changed it had he been playing Down?

Armagh gearing up for their first Ulster final in god knows how many years (not sure they have ever been to one) and will come at us from the whistle. They may not have the skill of some of the Antrim players but won't lack fitness nor motivation

1946...Antrim 6-03 Armagh 2-01.  The last Ulster Final played until 1989.  Interestingly the previous two finals in '44 and '45 featured Monaghan and Donegal against Antrim.  Antrim have only failed to feature in/qualify for three provincial finals...1908 Derry vs Cavan, 1934 Down vs Donegal and 2001 Derry vs Down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Not sure when the team was named but I got a text early this morning telling me. I think it's been confirmed on the BBC website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 29, 2011, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
11 changes to the team for the final vs Armagh.

Team named last night?

Would be silly to have that many changes, would he have changed it had he been playing Down?

Armagh gearing up for their first Ulster final in god knows how many years (not sure they have ever been to one) and will come at us from the whistle. They may not have the skill of some of the Antrim players but won't lack fitness nor motivation

1. C Cunningham

2. C McGuinness
3. K McGourty
4. J McCouaig

5. K McKeague
6. M Donnelly
7. C Herron

8. Barry McFall
9. S McCrory

10. J Scullion
11. T McCann
12. E McCloskey

13. P Doherty
14. C McFall
15. K McKeegan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2011, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 29, 2011, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
11 changes to the team for the final vs Armagh.

Team named last night?

Would be silly to have that many changes, would he have changed it had he been playing Down?

Armagh gearing up for their first Ulster final in god knows how many years (not sure they have ever been to one) and will come at us from the whistle. They may not have the skill of some of the Antrim players but won't lack fitness nor motivation

1. C Cunningham

2. C McGuinness
3. K McGourty
4. J McCouaig

5. K McKeague
6. M Donnelly
7. C Herron

8. Barry McFall
9. S McCrory

10. J Scullion
11. T McCann
12. E McCloskey

13. P Doherty
14. C McFall
15. K McKeegan

And Paddy Power don't have any betting for the game!!! Antrim should win but I'd be very wary of that team and it would certainly give Armagh a serious chance.

In the ideal world you should be playing your strongest team leading into the real big games to keep momentum. Only my view of course and Dinny would certainly know his players better than I
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
I would still fancy this team to win handily enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2011, 10:38:19 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on June 30, 2011, 12:06:19 AM
I would be worried about that team Dinny is playing. These lads might think it is only a matter of showing up for this match but Armagh will be really pumped up and ready to give it a go. Might be a big upset in this match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2011, 12:44:55 PM
All these guys are playing for places though so it's no bad thing from that regard and hopefully will avoid complacency.

I hope Armagh don't treat it as disrespectful - I think it's more against the ulster championship and priorities than armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 30, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Dont care about Armagh, Antrim should still be beating them out the gate with that team.

The guys who are not playing regularly should in theory be extrmely fired up for this to prove themselves now they have got their chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 30, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
At £13 a skull, there won't be a gate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2011, 12:38:03 PM
With the leinster final on  :o . Completely headless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 01, 2011, 08:36:55 PM
Has Dinny put his toys back in the pram?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
Jonty is no mug, he knows the Antrim team really well, strengths, weaknesses and form of the players. Should Antrim fail to take the game to Armagh the we could have a shock on our hands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 01, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
Jonty is no mug, he knows the Antrim team really well, strengths, weaknesses and form of the players. Should Antrim fail to take the game to Armagh the we could have a shock on our hands

Wouldnt matter what he is or isnt won't make a difference, silk purse and sows ear springs to mind. I dont care what team DC has picked the boys who come in could be more dangerous to Armagh than the regulars.

Good to see a 4th team coming into the mix but I think it says more about Downs state than it does about anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
True NAG1 about Down hurling. I'll hold judgement on selection till after game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 02, 2011, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 02, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
True NAG1 about Down hurling. I'll hold judgement on selection till after game
I'll not. Collie McFall at 14 is going to be interesting. He puts his hand up to every ball with his head buried between his knees.
First off.

So who would we prefer - Limerick or Galway??? Have to say Galway myself notwithstanding the big score tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 02, 2011, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 02, 2011, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 02, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
True NAG1 about Down hurling. I'll hold judgement on selection till after game
I'll not. Collie McFall at 14 is going to be interesting. He puts his hand up to every ball with his head buried between his knees.
First off.

So who would we prefer - Limerick or Galway??? Have to say Galway myself notwithstanding the big score tonight.

Galway would beat us really badly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 02, 2011, 09:02:56 PM
Fcuk playing Galway. At least we might have a chance of beating Limerick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 02, 2011, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 02, 2011, 09:02:56 PM
Fcuk playing Galway. At least we might have a chance of beating Limerick.

Don't agree lads. Galway are flakey - Limerick are on a mission under O'Grady. The Galway of tonight will hammer us, the Galway of Westmeath or Dublin, well . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
Honestly Clute Galway would hammer us i dont see how you think we would bet them. As for the Westmeath game, they obviously thought it would be a walk in the park and got a scare. They were poor against Dublin but tell me how would Antrim cope with the Galway FF line of Hayes, Canning and Kerins? Kieran Mc Gourty had a hard time against the Carlow corner forward last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 03, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
This is the problem lads, Galway in that sort of form would be a handful for any of the top teams never mind Antrim.

We simply dont have anyone to cope with the combined threat of Canning, Hayes and Farragher. Have to say Farragher is one of the easiest players on the eye at the moment, always seems to have an age on the ball and a great eye for a pass. Great style.

Basically we are in a crap shoot too good for the middle tier but still way off the top tier. Dont think it matters really who we get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Limerick at home next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 03, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Limerick at home next weekend.

It's not definitely at home. This round of the Qualifiers are down for venues decided by the CCCC tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on July 03, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Limerick at home next weekend.

It's not definitely at home. This round of the Qualifiers are down for venues decided by the CCCC tomorrow.

Rte had Antrims name first but Gaa website had Limerick first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 03, 2011, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on July 03, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 03, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Limerick at home next weekend.

It's not definitely at home. This round of the Qualifiers are down for venues decided by the CCCC tomorrow.

Rte had Antrims name first but Gaa website had Limerick first.

Antrim were drawn out first, but they were always going to drawn out first because they were in bowl A with Cork. Unless the counties agree to toss for it I would say it'll be neutral. Maybe Parnell Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 03, 2011, 09:02:48 PM
I think Limerick is the draw we should have been hoping for. It looks like Galway are hitting form at the right time and while Limerick are also looking impressive, we would have more of a chance against them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GroverJr on July 03, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
I don't know how the cccc are making their decision. I don't think it's neutral as Limerick were holding off on the time of their football qualifier in case they might get a double header.
Ideally Antrim get a home draw and double header at Casement. Neutral would still be better than a long journey down to Limerick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2011, 10:30:30 PM
Double header would be great.

Sheehy etc reckon that Thurles double header would be ideal - except for antrim...

Ciaran Herron interviewed there - speaking with  Derry accent!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on July 03, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
at least he wasnt saying 'sir' (sur) tommy!!!! but definitely noriced a country twang coming through
anybody at the feis match???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 04, 2011, 12:09:52 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on July 03, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
at least he wasnt saying 'sir' (sur) tommy!!!! but definitely noriced a country twang coming through
anybody at the feis match???

Féis final was a dire game - no atmosphere / intensity due to no county players on show.  Fair play to Dunloy for being the far superior team but I suppose with so many Dall county players unavailable it was odds on Dunloy would be stronger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2011, 12:18:04 AM
How many Dall players on county team today? Dunloy had more i suspect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 04, 2011, 01:25:35 AM
No players from either team's county players played.  Cushedall - McManus, Graffin, Conor Carson and Karl McKeegan.  Dunloy - Shorty, Kevin Molloy, Kevin McKeague and Paddy Doherty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 04, 2011, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: aontroim on July 04, 2011, 12:09:52 AM
Quote from: bloodybreakball on July 03, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
at least he wasnt saying 'sir' (sur) tommy!!!! but definitely noriced a country twang coming through
anybody at the feis match???

Féis final was a dire game - no atmosphere / intensity due to no county players on show.  Fair play to Dunloy for being the far superior team but I suppose with so many Dall county players unavailable it was odds on Dunloy would be stronger.

Lacked a bit of atmosphere I'd agree (we've got to middle classed at matches now ....guldering is not the done thing it would seem) but I thought the game had plenty of intensity and was well worth the admission fee. Of course championship will be a different contest but for what it was I was really pleased with our performances in almost every area of the pitch. Think Dunloy needed to show up after a few weeks of looking flat. Cushendall will no doubt lick their wounds and be ready for August when it comes around, so not much point speculating on who'll win championships just yet.
Thought cushendall we're fairly loose last night..but maybe thats just me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on July 04, 2011, 10:36:44 AM
The match last night was a good wake up call for cushendall. we have been winning games without playing particurly well. Showed what works needs to be done. Still missing Declan Mc killop, shane mc naughton and aidan delargy as well as the county ones. Dunloy missing quite a few aswell. As a contest the game was poor. Cushendall were outperformed in almost every sector.....time for the team to put in the hard graft.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Antrim v Limerick Parnell Park 7.00pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Antrim v Limerick Parnell Park 7.00pm
Ah jaysus, what a terrible place for this match. Access is pathetic and car parking is half a mile away. Hopefully the pitch is a lot less like a quagmire than it was in February.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 04, 2011, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Antrim v Limerick Parnell Park 7.00pm
Hopefully the pitch is a lot less like a quagmire than it was in February.

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 04, 2011, 03:13:54 PM
God the excuses are coming out now  :D

Perfect venue for Antrim the players know it inside out, close tight pitch means less room for Limericks new expansive running / passing game.
Antrim should be in their face from the first whistle and not let up at any point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 04, 2011, 03:13:54 PM
God the excuses are coming out now  :D

Perfect venue for Antrim the players know it inside out, close tight pitch means less room for Limericks new expansive running / passing game.
Antrim should be in their face from the first whistle and not let up at any point.
Excuses for what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 04, 2011, 05:14:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Antrim v Limerick Parnell Park 7.00pm
Ah jaysus, what a terrible place for this match. Access is pathetic and car parking is half a mile away. Hopefully the pitch is a lot less like a quagmire than it was in February.
With the weather that's in it I'd say there is a fair chance it'll be less of a quagmire than February.

Imagine car parking being a whole 1/2 mile away! :D Sure it's a handy place to get back on the road north!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2011, 05:18:57 PM
Great pitch, we won our match in late Jan one year!! As said tight pitch which our county lads know well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 04, 2011, 05:14:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 04, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2011, 01:20:59 PM
Antrim v Limerick Parnell Park 7.00pm
Ah jaysus, what a terrible place for this match. Access is pathetic and car parking is half a mile away. Hopefully the pitch is a lot less like a quagmire than it was in February.
With the weather that's in it I'd say there is a fair chance it'll be less of a quagmire than February.

Imagine car parking being a whole 1/2 mile away! :D Sure it's a handy place to get back on the road north!
As long as the road works have finished.  It was a nightmare to get out of when I was there last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GroverJr on July 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Parnell Park is probably as good as you can get other than a home draw. You should be able to park within 5 mins of the ground except if there's a full house which is unlikely.

It could have been in Thurles which would have been practically a home draw for Limerick. We gave Offaly a good run last year in Parnell park last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 04, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: GroverJr on July 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Parnell Park is probably as good as you can get other than a home draw. You should be able to park within 5 mins of the ground except if there's a full house which is unlikely.

It could have been in Thurles which would have been practically a home draw for Limerick. We gave Offaly a good run last year in Parnell park last year.

Limerick think they're onto bigger things under O'Grady and will travel in numbers, a good evening for Antrim to catch them on them hop if they go flying into them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: GroverJr on July 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Parnell Park is probably as good as you can get other than a home draw. You should be able to park within 5 mins of the ground except if there's a full house which is unlikely.

It could have been in Thurles which would have been practically a home draw for Limerick. We gave Offaly a good run last year in Parnell park last year.

Limerick think they're onto bigger things under O'Grady and will travel in numbers, a good evening for Antrim to catch them on them hop if they go flying into them.

Anybody know what happened just before half time in Loughgiel against Limerick???? Bit crap of the Irish News to run an article effectively around it without saying what actually happened!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 08, 2011, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: GroverJr on July 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Parnell Park is probably as good as you can get other than a home draw. You should be able to park within 5 mins of the ground except if there's a full house which is unlikely.

It could have been in Thurles which would have been practically a home draw for Limerick. We gave Offaly a good run last year in Parnell park last year.

Limerick think they're onto bigger things under O'Grady and will travel in numbers, a good evening for Antrim to catch them on them hop if they go flying into them.

Anybody know what happened just before half time in Loughgiel against Limerick???? Bit crap of the Irish News to run an article effectively around it without saying what actually happened!!

Read on the Hoganstand that there was some sort of confrontation between the Antrim management and some of the Limerick players. Probably nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron exile on July 08, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
Anyone know the Antrim team for tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 09, 2011, 10:54:13 AM
It is a shame we can't see either the hurling or football teams.

Re the Limerick loughgiel incident seemingly Dinny had harsh words with the Limerick bench (not sure regarding what) and according to the same source some of the Antrim players were fairly throwing the stick around. As I say I wasn't there and this is second hand.

Seems Dinny likes the verbals when it comes to O'Grady's teams...

Fingers crossed this 'backlash' doesn't materialise and Antrim compete for the full 70 and sneak something!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 09, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
Quote from: Saffron exile on July 08, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
Anyone know the Antrim team for tomorrow?
1. Chrissy

2. McGourty
3. Hippy
4. Graffin

5. Kevy Molloy
6. Micko
7. Nealer

8. McManus
9. Shorty

10. Eddie
11. Karl Stewart
12. Colm McFall

13. Joey Scullion
14. Hamill
15. Connor McCann
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
Was Karl Stewart sent off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 07:42:52 PM
1-10 0-8 for Limerick at HT. Still in with a chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
2-14 0-11 Limerick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
3-22 0-12 for Limerick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 09, 2011, 11:21:21 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
Was Karl Stewart sent off?

Karl Stewart sent off towards end of the first half.  He'd won a free for being pulled back, and for some reason put his two feet into the Limerick fella, was always going to walk.  Antrim were well able for them at the time and afterwards it all fell to pieces!  No idea what was going through his head!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 10, 2011, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 09, 2011, 11:21:21 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 09, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
Was Karl Stewart sent off?

Karl Stewart sent off towards end of the first half.  He'd won a free for being pulled back, and for some reason put his two feet into the Limerick fella, was always going to walk.  Antrim were well able for them at the time and afterwards it all fell to pieces!  No idea what was going through his head!

FFS. Antrim really need to sort out these discipline problems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on July 10, 2011, 01:17:08 AM
One things for sure, Karl Stewart knows he did wrong but doesnt need criticism. Possibly been Antrims best and most consistent performer over the past number of years, a stalwart and an example to all hurlers in Antrim. Hopefully he'll be back stronger from this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 10, 2011, 01:20:19 AM
Just in from match,as said already antrim led right up to karl Stewart being sent off, real bad tramping leaving the ref no choice. very uncharacteristic of stewart maybe Geary was niggling but no excuse. tried to contain them but some of our stronger players started to run out of steam and limerick started running through us. on the plus side for  most of the game MC manus was the best player on the field and limerick tried four different forwards on hippy and he skinned them all, Aron graffin, Niel MC auley can also hold there heads up high but minus MC naughton and Watson from last year we just laboured getting scores. would of been intresting to see what happened if Karl hadn't of walked as we where on top of them to then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron exile on July 10, 2011, 02:19:02 AM
Just back from the game. Very encouraging start with Antrim bossing Limerick in every department until the sending off though it was 7-7 at that time hwen we should have been leading by more (had been 7-5 for Antrim at one point). Let in a clatter of scores before half time as the heads dropped. came out the the better team in the first ten mins but failure to capitalise on a number of goal chances lead to the lads dropping the heads and Limerick romped home.
Neal McAuley was easily the best hurler out there on either side. Cleared ball after ball throughout.

Team has promise but need to take the chances made. McManus, Shiels, Graffin and Conor McCann hurled well also, as did McCrory at half-back but the six Limerick backs to five Antrim forwards dominated the last 15 when the scores piled up but only then and the last 10 min of first half.
Hope we can keep the team together and that includes Stewart who had an uncharacteristic moment of madness that took the wind out of the Saffron sails.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 10, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
To say it is out of character for Karl Stewart to pull a dirty stroke is an understatement, i have never seen him being dirty before. Obviously it was a handicap when he was sent off but i dont think it should just be automatic for Antrim to capitulate to a 19 point defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 10, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
Maybe the pitch was to blame.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 10, 2011, 02:59:37 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=151335 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=151335)

Report from the Hoganstand website. Wonderful reporting. Could i ask who Andy McCloskey and Darren Hamilton are? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 10, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
The sad truth is we are no closer to the top teams than we were 30 years ago.A 19 point defeat to a side rated 6th or 7th in the country proves this.We just don't have the skill or physical ability to compete at the highest level.On yesterday's evidence lets hope we don't have to meet Tipperary any time soon.I hate writing this but there is no point in hiding our heads in the sand,it has to be said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2011, 05:31:20 PM
It's a different game now than 30 years ago though.

The big gap has always been due to speed of the game / speed of thought / intensity etc. The speed of the game has increased tenfold due to the professional approach taken so based on that the gap has to have grown.

We can only compete with decent southern teams with Dinny in charge which suggests to me he's the only one capable of getting us to train as greater intensity / speed etc. 30 years ago we had a great batch of players - now we don't have the same at our disposal but dinny has us competing reasonably well and by all accounts the sending off had a massive impact yesterday.

I also think 30 years ago our minors competing in leinster was a great help.

So I'd say we are further back but I'd also say with Dinny in charge we are definitely going the right direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 10, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
Todays results

Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Ballycran  3-10  2-18  Dunloy  Ballycran Round 9
Ballygalget 1-12  1-12  Portaferry  Ballygalget Round 9
Glenariffe  0-8 0-12  Cushendall  Glenariffe  Round 9
St Johns  0-12  1-17  Loughgiel Corrigan Park Round 9

Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Ballycran  1-7 0-11  Dunloy  Ballycran Round 9
Ballygalget 1-7 2-16  Portaferry  Ballygalget Round 9

Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Shane O Neills 0-9 4-11  Tir na Nog  Shane ONeills Round 13  
Clooney Gaels 2-17  6-16  St Galls  Ahoghill  Round 13  
Lamh Dhearg 0-11  0-14  Ballycastle Lamh Dhearg Round 13  

Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
St Pauls 0-14  0-17  Glen Rovers Armoy St. Pauls Round 11  
Sarsfields  4-21  0-5 Bredagh Sarsfields  Round 11  
Cushendun 4-7 3-4 Glenravel Cushendun Round 11  
Cloughmills 0-13  0-18  Rasharkin Cloughmills Round 11  

Antrim Div 4 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
St Galls 0-8 4-16  Creggan St. Galls Round 9
O Donnells  0-4 2-20  Sean Treacys  O Donnells  Round 9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2011, 10:18:27 PM
The man who put the butt of the hurl into Conor McCann off the ball should have seen red before Stewart and then it would have been 14 14 and a fair match >:(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 10, 2011, 11:25:46 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 10, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
The sad truth is we are no closer to the top teams than we were 30 years ago.A 19 point defeat to a side rated 6th or 7th in the country proves this.We just don't have the skill or physical ability to compete at the highest level.On yesterday's evidence lets hope we don't have to meet Tipperary any time soon.I hate writing this but there is no point in hiding our heads in the sand,it has to be said.
This a total knee jerk comment IMO, we have the best crop of players who WANT to be there at the minute, and Dinny has done a decent job with them thus far, we needed a full deck against Limerick and after losing a man it was a bridgr too far. the score difference is not a true measure. The question is are we as good as we we want to be? How  long are we watching Lar Corbett yet we are only now seeing  the best hurling of his career due IMO to the collective effort of the team. Theres a gap in sacrafice but not skill,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 12, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
Theres a gap in sacrafice but not skill,

Well said LM couldn't agree more its a physiological issue and has been for as long as I can remember, get rid of the idiots within the executive and maybe some day we will have progress!

As a wise man once said:

"Unless you change how you are, you will always have what you've got"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 13, 2011, 02:50:02 PM

                        P   Pts
Ballycastle         10  18
St Galls              9   13
Rossa               10  13


St Galls  - - Lamh Dhearg  St. Galls 13/07/2011   
Ballycastle  - - Rossa         Ballycastle 13/07/2011

The table might get interesting if Rossa & St Galls win tonight  Galls must be favourites in their game and Rossa have already beat the Town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Rossa are bad travellers so I very much doubt they'll beat Ballycastle on a wednesday night in ballycastle - there's holiday season to consider too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 13, 2011, 09:11:55 PM
St Galls 3-10 5-10 Lahm Dhearg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 13, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
Ballycastle 0-21   Rossa 0-3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 13, 2011, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 13, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
Ballycastle 0-21   Rossa 0-3

The chippers obviously don't travel too well as we beat St Johns 2-20 to 1-10 pulling up which is a bit of a novelty for us.


Early reports from Portaferry is that they were winning handy thanks to three big boobs from the Glenariffe keeper.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 13, 2011, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 13, 2011, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 13, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
Ballycastle 0-21   Rossa 0-3

The chippers


:D :D :D

and Dunloy beat the Dall 2-10 to 1-10.  There's life in the old dog still.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2011, 09:47:46 PM
Our keeper was injured on Sunday and his brother played in goals against Cushendall and played well, i thought he would have kept his place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 14, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Dunloy 2-10  1-10  Cushendall  Dunloy  Round 10  
Portaferry  4-13  1-14  Glenariffe  Portaferry  Round 10  
Ballygalget 2-20  1-10  St Johns  Ballygalget Round 10  

Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Dunloy 2-8 0-16  Cushendall  Dunloy  Round 10  

Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Ballycastle  0-21  0-3 Rossa Ballycastle Round 14  
Gort Na Mona   2-15    3-7 Carey Faughs  Gort Na Mona  Round 14  
Tir na Nog  1-20  1-10  Clooney Gaels Tir na Nog  Round 14  
St Galls  3-10  5-10  Lamh Dhearg St. Galls Round 14  

Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Glenravel  2-10  2-8 Glen Rovers Armoy Glenravel Round 12  
Rasharkin 1-10  0-12  Sarsfields  Rasharkin Round 12  
Cloughmills 3-10  1-10  Cushendun Cloughmills Round 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 14, 2011, 08:46:16 AM
Do last nights result virtually guarantee Ballycastle a return to the top flight. That's a shocking scoreline for Rossa.  I had expected them to push on this year and compete for the div 2 title.

Good win for ourselves on the back of a decent win in ballycran, puts us back in contention for the league again which looked so unlikely after a heavy defeat away to the Dall and St Johns, though a big game on Sunday now against Loughgiel

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 14, 2011, 06:38:31 PM
A Dunloy win on Sunday would definitely make the first division interesting.  Is that the last league meeting between the Big 3?  What do you think your chances are against the Shamrocks?

Ballycastle would be heavy favourites in div 2 now but they still have to play St Galls in belfast. And they have 2 postponed games against Gort Na Mona so I don't thonk they'lll be taking anything for granted.  Besides there's the big derby this weekend.  Carey would love to burst the Town's bubble  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 15, 2011, 01:00:59 AM
Getting close to Championship time now. What is everyone's predictions for each championship?

Senior-Loughgiel
Intermediate-Gort na Mona
Junior-Creggan
Minor A-St Johns
Minor B-Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 15, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
Senior-Dunloy
Intermediate - Gort na Mona
Junior - Glenravel
Minor-St Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:50:07 AM
Was I drunk last night? I must have imagined the exiled shamrock's post predicting a 3/4 pt win on Sunday  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2011, 06:01:25 PM
You weren't imagining things B+A. I was told by someone that we were playing Cushendall this weekend. That would be a different kettle of fish.

I do fancy us by 3/4 points this Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Why would an any point win for Dunloy suit you blackandamber?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Why would an any point win for Dunloy suit you blackandamber?

1 it would make the league interesting

2 it would give Dunloy a boost before the Championship.  What Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel take a 17th title?

3 what Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel win any game?  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Why would an any point win for Dunloy suit you blackandamber?

1 it would make the league interesting

2 it would give Dunloy a boost before the Championship.  What Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel take a 17th title?

3 what Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel win any game?  ;)  ;D
Ah right. Loughgiel vs the world!  I wouldn't have it any other way.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Why would an any point win for Dunloy suit you blackandamber?

1 it would make the league interesting

2 it would give Dunloy a boost before the Championship.  What Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel take a 17th title?

3 what Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel win any game?  ;)  ;D
Ah right. Loughgiel vs the world!  I wouldn't have it any other way.   :)

Loughgiel vs Loughgiel in The Pound is good too   :)

but Championship predictions that will prove how little I know

Sen Cushendall
Int   Gort Na Mona
Jun  ------------------
Minor Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 16, 2011, 03:40:57 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
An any point win for Dunloy would of course suit me fine  ;D but I think if it's only 3/4 in your favour they might be lucky.
Why would an any point win for Dunloy suit you blackandamber?

1 it would make the league interesting

2 it would give Dunloy a boost before the Championship.  What Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel take a 17th title?

3 what Ballycastle man wants to see Loughgiel win any game?  ;)  ;D
Ah right. Loughgiel vs the world!  I wouldn't have it any other way.   :)

Loughgiel vs Loughgiel in The Pound is good too   :)

but Championship predictions that will prove how little I know

Sen Cushendall
Int   Gort Na Mona
Jun  ------------------
Minor Cushendall
Old news B + A. Long time ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 04:24:05 PM
Is there a club anywhere has n't had a wee spat every now and then? :D  just shows their passionate about the game  lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 16, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
Carey Faughs  2-9 2-17 Ballycastle 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 16, 2011, 11:15:50 PM
Pretty safe to say Ballycastle are up now. If Glenarm lose in Ahoghill tommorow they are officially down i think which would leave it between Carey and Ahoghill to avoid the other relegation place. Is it only one team getting promoted into Division one this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 12:00:42 PM
I'll be attending the loughgiel vs dunloy match today. I'll update the scores through the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 17, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 12:00:42 PM
I'll be attending the loughgiel vs dunloy match today. I'll update the scores through the match.

Yeah do that.  I was going to go up into the mountains to that but it's horribly wet and windy down here by the seaside. The match will be spoiled by the weather I fear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 17, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 12:00:42 PM
I'll be attending the loughgiel vs dunloy match today. I'll update the scores through the match.

Yeah do that.  I was going to go up into the mountains to that but it's horribly wet and windy down here by the seaside. The match will be spoiled by the weather I fear.
The reserve match has been cancelled. Just keeping a wee eye out for the senior game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
1-6 to 1-1 to shamrocks after 20 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 04:10:52 PM
Half time. 1-7 to 1-1 to shamrocks. Loughgiel had advantage of a gusty breeze in first half. Dunloy's keeper is barely reaching half way with pocs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 17, 2011, 04:34:20 PM
Is 6pts enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 04:49:26 PM
Loughgiel just scored to level in the last minute. Duffy is doing everything in his power to give it to dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 04:54:11 PM
He just took away that point after he gave it.
Dunloy win by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 17, 2011, 05:01:50 PM
Why was the score disallowed?

Is the ref's bias a Loughgiel man's opinion or was he seriously biased?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
the umpire at the back post gave it. He blew his whistle and turned to run up the field. He was then stopped by some Dunloy players and told that the other umpire wanted his attention. He then sprinted (for the first time in the match) to that umpire. There was a discussion. He cancelled the point on the word of the near post umpire. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, is wrong. Surely the umpire at the back post (behind the goals as he was standing) has the better view? We were directly behind, it curled in over.

Also dunloy's no 13 tried to push ding into the steps at the pavillion when going for a ball. Surely a sending off. Not according to Duffy, he  booked both players. Towards the end another dunloy player pushed a loughgiel player into one of the dug outs. Nothing.

He had a poor game in general. He let too much slashing a slapping go. A very poor display in general from him.

Having said that, we should have been out of sight at half time. When, oh when, are we going to realise that all this hand passing and short passing in the backs doesn't work? We gifted them at least 5 points in the second half by doing this.

Rant over.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 17, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
I hear different "Horse's mouth and all that", the Umpire on the back post was a Dunloy man who signaled wide, umpire on the the near was a Shamrocks man who gave the point. Then after discussion "both umpires agreed" it was a wide. The near post umpire which the ball passed is the wrong umpire to call the far post umpire usually calls those, I hear you lads videoed the match so that should either get your man off or on the hook, im sure he cant wait! So consider yourself educated Seamroga, and I would still in exile you'll never make a reporter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 17, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
I hear different "Horse's mouth and all that", the Umpire on the back post was a Dunloy man who signaled wide, umpire on the the near was a Shamrocks man who gave the point. Then after discussion "both umpires agreed" it was a wide. The near post umpire which the ball passed is the wrong umpire to call the far post umpire usually calls those, I hear you lads videoed the match so that should either get your man off or on the hook, im sure he cant wait! So consider yourself educated Seamroga, and I would still in exile you'll never make a reporter.
Well, saying as I was there and didn't hear it from the horses mouth I'll take my own word on it. who mentioned anything about being a reporter? Blackandamber asked a question and I answered it. what about the other incidents?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 17, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1 Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Loughgiel  1-9 1-10  Dunloy  Loughgiel Round 11  
Cushendall      Portaferry  Cushendall  Not Played  
Ballycran 0-9 1-16  Ballygalget Ballycran Round 11  
Glenariffe  1-12  0-13  St Johns  Glenariffe  Round 11  

Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Loughgiel      Dunloy  Loughgiel Not Played  
Cushendall      Portaferry  Cushendall  Not Played  
Ballycran 3-8 1-8 Ballygalget Ballycran Round 11  

Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Clooney Gaels  3-14  2-7 Shane O Neills  Ahoghill  Round 15  
Lamh Dhearg 1-10  0-3 Tir na Nog  Lamh Dhearg Round 15  
Rossa 3-11  2-17  St Galls  Rossa Round 15  

Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
St Pauls 3-9 0-6 Glenravel St. Pauls Round 13  
Bredagh 1-10  5-15  Rasharkin Bredagh Round 13  

Antrim Div 4 Hurling
Team 1  Score Score Team 2  Venue Comment  
Davitts  1-10  0-5 St Galls  Davitts Round 10  
Sean Treacys  5-13  3-9 Mc Dermotts Lurgan  Round 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 17, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
So in essence you: Watch a game from the worst position in the ground, spout on about an incident that you are totally and factually incorrect, have a pop and lambast one of the counties best referees, and make silly statements about incidents that happened over a hundred meters away from you, and forget to mention that your lads only scored 2 points in the second half, which of course you neglected to then mentioned during your silly little snippets during the game and have the ordacity to then give an overall assessment of the referees performance! Ask yourself this, why am I watching this from behind the goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
I wasn't watching it behind the goals, I was watching it from behind the player. Like I say, I was there, I know what I saw. Again there's  no comment about the other incidents. And I did say we should have been out of sight in the first half.

Explain this to me. Is a slash a foul or isn't It? Should it not be given as a free? or should you play on until the perpetrator of the foul's team get a free, then book that player?  But still reward his team the free?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Good win for Glenariffe today against St Johns, we could get out of the shit yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 17, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
I didn't mean to start a row there lads.  We all see our own clubs matches ina certain light. Refs do a tough job and I'd say there's not more than 10 of them are completely biased against the Town ---- that's a joke !   ;D  just in case you didn't realise. But seriously we have to remmeber that we're totally biased ourselves but as well refs do make mistakes. We should try to start from the position that there's no malice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 17, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
I agree, but sometimes refs have bad days. This was one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 18, 2011, 08:22:32 AM
Alot of nonsense about the referee, gave plenty of 50/50 calls against us too. Perhaps the problem for Loughgiel is for years you had referee's sympathic to your drought, now you're on top to be knocked down.

1. The point was as B&A described and rightly ruled wide as it was at least 3 foot wide, how you can have a go at the referee for his decisions and claim this was a point is ludicrous
2. Shorty got booked for reacting to Ding, never anything more
3. Woody shoulder on Benny McCarry was right on the sideline and momentum carried him into the dug out, should you only shoulder in the middle of the field

Nonsense about the referee aside the game itself was poor as dictated by the atrocious weather conditions.  Both teams had difficulty in handling and striking, even with the wind.

Dunloy hurled superbly in the first 10 mins, and actually led despite the gale blowing in their faces, Loughgiel then took over, indeed over complicating the play probaly cost them another 2/3 point half time lead

The second half was all dunloy, Loughgiel swamped the defence as dunloy grinded away at the 6 point lead. Martin Scullion was excellent in this period and made light of everyone else's handling difficulties with many a superb catch.

Loughgiel engineered 2 frees against the run of play, both of which where dubious enough, but eventually dunloy got on top on the scoreboard, after which Loughgiel enjoyed their best period of the half creating but missing 2 scoring chances.

For Loughgiel Barney was superb in the first half and martin scullion fantastic in the second, a big plus for them the return of johnny Campbell who also hurled well. For us Sean Dowds was the best player on view with shorty and woody putting in huge performances.

How much can either team read into a game that possibly shouldn't have been played is hard to gauge, but it makes the league more interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 09:44:11 AM
It's humourous how we have completely differing views of the game.

I'll agree with you about the decision to play the match. It was dangerous in certain areas of the pitch where the water was lying. I wouldn't have been surprised if it had been abandoned at half time. Also I agree that the two teams can't really take too much from the game.both sides were handicapped by the conditions. I would say that there isn't much between them at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 09:53:45 AM
Woeful conditions for a match, shouldnt have been played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 18, 2011, 10:40:39 AM
Yip, poor conditions for a match so credit to both teams for putting in a decent performance under the circumstances.

The incident with Ding and Shorty was handbags stuff.  Ding was trying to run the ball out of ball, Shorty pushed him into the steps, Ding sholdered him, Shorty did the same back, ref booked both players, move on.

I wasn't in a great position to see the disputed point so have to accept the decision.  We had enough good chances in the last 10 mins to win the match but our shooting and sometimes over carrying the ball (EMC) let us down.

On a plus for us was JC making a comeback and LW on the bench hopefully coming close to a come back.  Although Scully had a great game (best player we've had over the last 2 seasons imo), JC's experience will help to tighten up our defence which has been leaking soft scores this year.

What did BMC get his 2nd yellow card for?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 18, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 17, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Good win for Glenariffe today against St Johns, we could get out of the shit yet.

I thought you'd have too much to do but Ballycran have been decimated by lads off to America for the summer and are really down to the bare bones. I believe you've still to play them twice so anything is possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 18, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
Ulster GAA Fixtures:
Wednesday 20th July
Bord Gais Ulster GAA Under 21 Hurling Championship Semi Finals
(7.30pm, ET if necessary)

Antrim v Derry at Morgan Athletic Grounds Ref:  J Clarke (Cavan)
Armagh v Down at Casement Park Ref:  L McAuley (Antrim)

Think the Ulster Council have shot themselves in the foot with the Antrim Derry game being at the Athletic Grounds. A seriously stupid decision - if this was in south Derry somewhere, or in Creggan for example a big crowd would have turned out. Unless Derry travel in their droves then there will be a very very poor turnout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 11:16:13 AM
Unreal way to promote these matches, shows you exactly what sort of people are behind fixing these games.

I would say the Antrim lads would have be equally as happy to go and play it in South Derry as opposed to traveling to Armagh on a Wednesday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 18, 2011, 11:56:52 AM
Pretty sure this is dictated by Croke park lads, totally nuts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
Mental!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 18, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
Benny McCarry got send off for talking back to the referee, second yellow card, although I think as Benny continued to talk back after receiving the second yellow he may have gotten a straight red after that. would be harsh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 18, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
No excuse for that especially when his 1st yellow was for remonstrating to the ref. about a foul he thought he should have won. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 01:34:20 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
Have also heard that a member of the LG public heading into the club house after a the match insulted GD on the way past with something that should never be used to insult anyone, be interesting to see if we hear anymore of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 18, 2011, 02:25:35 PM
Lads its hard to take I know but its very apparent the refs are being directed to penalize back chat and its time players got wise to that. I know having reffed a few minor matches in an unofficial capacity it's hard to listen to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
It's best not to go judging until it has been proven. If it is the case then the perpetrator should be dealt with accordingly. Manys the thing is said at matches by supporters of all clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 03:06:40 PM
From what I was told was that it wasnt a matter of it being proven, it was said to him on the way past after the game. Just interested to see if he has it in his report and what will become of it.

Not the type of thing that anyone would make up and agree Exile that the perpetrator should be indentified and dealt with in the appropriate manner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 18, 2011, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
Have also heard that a member of the LG public heading into the club house after a the match insulted GD on the way past with something that should never be used to insult anyone, be interesting to see if we hear anymore of this.

What was this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 18, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
Wont be saying on here but I would imagine it wont be long until it is common knowledge anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 09:05:24 PM
I've texted a few people about this and no one knows anything about it. Or if they do they aren't saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sniper on July 18, 2011, 09:50:11 PM
Fair Play I heard GD went into the clubrooms in his kit  after him and wouldn't leave until his name was given. He got his man I believe, "Chesty" was his nickname?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 18, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: Sniper on July 18, 2011, 09:50:11 PM
Fair Play I heard GD went into the clubrooms in his kit  after him and wouldn't leave until his name was given. He got his man I believe, "Chesty" was his nickname?
I know him alright.

Well, if it's true enough he deserves whatever he gets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 19, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Sniper on July 18, 2011, 09:50:11 PM
Fair Play I heard GD went into the clubrooms in his kit  after him and wouldn't leave until his name was given. He got his man I believe, "Chesty" was his nickname?

Interesting 1st post Sniper   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 19, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
I've heard from good authority the idiot who made the comment is'nt even a member of Loughgeil.  I suspect Duffy is also a little bit bigger than that, to take any notice of a few nasty word/s which may have been spoken following  the heat of battle.  It would take more that that to get Duffy wound up, if you ask me!  Having said that, I can think of a few other refs, who will of course remain nameless, who would go the whole hog with this. Time will tell of course, but I cant see anything coming of it if the culprit is not a member of the association?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 19, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 19, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
I've heard from good authority the idiot who made the comment is'nt even a member of Loughgeil.  I suspect Duffy is also a little bit bigger than that to take any notice of a few nasty words which may have been spoken following  the heat of battle.  It would take more that that to get Duddy wound up, if you ask me!  Having siad that, I can think of a few other refs, who will of course remain nameless, who would go the whole hog with this. Time will tell of course, but I cant see anything coming of it if culprit is not a member of the association?

don't know the actual comment (someone can PM me if they like) but the member thing is a mute point as all clubs are responsible for their supporters whether they've paid their subs or not. I think Dunloy used as similar defence in the Casement park incident with the Ref (JA Gribben) getting belted after a tempestuous game with Lavey and didn't cut much delf with the Ulster council then.

If he was in the clubhouse and not a member then someone must have signed him in to the bar area  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 19, 2011, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Sniper on July 18, 2011, 09:50:11 PM
Fair Play I heard GD went into the clubrooms in his kit  after him and wouldn't leave until his name was given. He got his man I believe, "Chesty" was his nickname?

I also heard from good authority, he did not go into the clubhouse on his own but brought in a few of his umpires.  Fair play to them for taking no crap!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1. Adrian Downey
2. Chris Loughran
3.  Conor Gillan
4.  Conor Laverty
5. Conor McCann
6.  Dessie McLean
7. Eoin Gillan
8. Hugh Connor
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black
11.  James McCouaig
12. Kevin McKernan
13. Mark Scally
14.  Matthew Donnelly
15. Michael Callahan
16. Michael Devlin
17. Naoise O'Caiteallain
18.  Neilly Cunningham
19.  Niall McAlea
20. Peter McKeague
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn
23. Stephen Smyth
24.  Tony McCloskey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 19, 2011, 04:55:41 PM
Too many Conor's at the back end of the field and too many Matthews, Mark's and Michaels at the front end.  It's bound to get confusing  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 19, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1. Adrian Downey
2. Chris Loughran
3.  Conor Gillan
4.  Conor Laverty
5. Conor McCann
6.  Dessie McLean
7. Eoin Gillan
8. Hugh Connor
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black
11.  James McCouaig
12. Kevin McKernan
13. Mark Scally
14.  Matthew Donnelly
15. Michael Callahan
16. Michael Devlin
17. Naoise O'Caiteallain
18.  Neilly Cunningham
19.  Niall McAlea
20. Peter McKeague
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn
23. Stephen Smyth
24.  Tony McCloskey

No game...Derry unable to field a team??  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
FFS. That is a bit embarrassing for Derry. Surely they could find 15 half decent hurlers in Derry to make up a team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 19, 2011, 06:58:44 PM
That would only have been the squad! There's no way Eoin Gillan was playing wing back! Poor state of affairs from Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 19, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1. Adrian Downey
2. Chris Loughran
3.  Conor Gillan
4.  Conor Laverty
5. Conor McCann
6.  Dessie McLean
7. Eoin Gillan
8. Hugh Connor
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black
11.  James McCouaig
12. Kevin McKernan
13. Mark Scally
14.  Matthew Donnelly
15. Michael Callahan
16. Michael Devlin
17. Naoise O'Caiteallain
18.  Neilly Cunningham
19.  Niall McAlea
20. Peter McKeague
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn
23. Stephen Smyth
24.  Tony McCloskey

Can anyone identify what club each of these fellas play for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CountyGK on July 19, 2011, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 19, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1. Adrian Downey Naomh Eoin
2. Chris Loughran
3.  Conor Gillan
4.  Conor Laverty Cloughmills
5.  Conor McCann Creggan
6. Dessie McLean Gort na Mona
7. Eoin Gillan Ruairi Óg
8.  Hugh Connor Naomh Gall
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black Glenshesk
11. James McCouaig
12.  Kevin McKernan Sarsfields
13. Mark Scally
14.  Matthew Donnelly Ballycastle
15.  Michael Callahan
16. Michael Devlin Cloughmills
17.  Naoise O'Caiteallain St Teresas
18.  Neilly Cunningham Lámh Dheárg
19. Niall McAlea
20. Peter McKeague
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn Glenshesk
23.  Stephen Smyth
24.  Tony McCloskey Loughgiel

Can anyone identify what club each of these fellas play for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:15:27 PM
Conor Gillan Loughgiel

Scally I should know but can't mind...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:28:59 PM
Stephen Smyth - Cloughmills

Niall McAlea, Chris Loughran, Michael Callaghan, - Sarsfields

James McCouaig - Carey Faughs


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Glenshesk??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
Isn't Peter McKeague Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:15:27 PM
Conor Gillan Loughgiel

Scally I should know but can't mind...
Cushendun/St. Brendans
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Glenshesk??
Indeed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Glenshesk??
Indeed!

I know where it is but it's not a club??

(Although I have heard of it in amalgamations though not for a few years...)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 19, 2011, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
Isn't Peter McKeague Dunloy?

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 19, 2011, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on July 19, 2011, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 19, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1.  Adrian Downey Naomh Eoin
2. Chris Loughran Sarsfields
3.  Conor Gillan Loughgiel
4. Conor Laverty Cloughmills
5.  Conor McCann Creggan
6. Dessie McLean Gort na Mona
7. Eoin Gillan Ruairi Óg
8.  Hugh Connor Naomh Gall
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black Glenshesk
11. James McCouaig Carey Faughs
12. Kevin McKernan Sarsfields
13. Mark Scally Cushendun
14. Matthew Donnelly Ballycastle
15.  Michael Callahan Sarsfields
16. Michael Devlin Cloughmills
17.  Naoise O'Caiteallain St Teresas
18.  Neilly Cunningham Lámh Dheárg
19. Niall McAlea Sarsfields
20. Peter McKeague Dunloy
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn Glenshesk
23.  Stephen Smyth Cloughmills
24. Tony McCloskey Loughgiel

Can anyone identify what club each of these fellas play for?

Ryan Carson? Jack Corcoran?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 19, 2011, 10:43:59 PM
Is Ryan Carson not Sarsfields too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 19, 2011, 10:57:22 PM
Jack Corcoran is Naomh Éanna.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 20, 2011, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Glenshesk??
Indeed!

I know where it is but it's not a club??

(Although I have heard of it in amalgamations though not for a few years...)
I would think it must be Carey and Armoy. Not sure myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rolloutking on July 20, 2011, 01:29:18 PM
QuoteIs Naoise Ó Caireallain not St. Paul's?

yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 20, 2011, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 20, 2011, 06:17:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2011, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Glenshesk??
Indeed!

I know where it is but it's not a club??

(Although I have heard of it in amalgamations though not for a few years...)
I would think it must be Carey and Armoy. Not sure myself.

It is Carey and Armoy but James Black and Stephen McGinn are both Carey now. Glenshesk doesn't operate after minor

St Brendans is Cushendun, Cloughmills and Glenravel I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 21, 2011, 11:01:14 AM
Any word on the game last night?

Just saw Roggie on the HS, disgraceful at this level that they cant even get a team out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 21, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Name : liam                                                                                                                                     20 July 2011

                                                                                                                                         
I was 'reading' another GAA guestbook site where 'knowledgeable people' converse with one another etc, leave comments, opinions etc re Antrim hurling! It says a lot about their collective wisdom in relation to hurling that they didn't seem too familiar with names etc of Antrim U21 players or to which clubs the players belong!
Hurler on the ditch.

Yep, there are plenty of these pseudo-experts who enjoy pontificating and derive some type of fetish posting their opinions under juvenile pseudonyms.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 21, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 21, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Name : liam                                                                                                                                     20 July 2011

                                                                                                                                         
I was 'reading' another GAA guestbook site where 'knowledgeable people' converse with one another etc, leave comments, opinions etc re Antrim hurling! It says a lot about their collective wisdom in relation to hurling that they didn't seem too familiar with names etc of Antrim U21 players or to which clubs the players belong!
Hurler on the ditch.

Yep, there are plenty of these pseudo-experts who enjoy pontificating and derive some type of fetish posting their opinions under juvenile pseudonyms.

:D
Arseholes. Probably go to a couple of matches a year and think they are experts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 21, 2011, 10:44:35 PM
U21s to play Armagh in the final. They beat Down 1-11-0-10 on Wednesday.

Dunloy now top of the table with a 2-13 1-12 win over Glenariffe tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 22, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 21, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 21, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Name : liam                                                                                                                                     20 July 2011

                                                                                                                                         
I was 'reading' another GAA guestbook site where 'knowledgeable people' converse with one another etc, leave comments, opinions etc re Antrim hurling! It says a lot about their collective wisdom in relation to hurling that they didn't seem too familiar with names etc of Antrim U21 players or to which clubs the players belong!
Hurler on the ditch.

Yep, there are plenty of these pseudo-experts who enjoy pontificating and derive some type of fetish posting their opinions under juvenile pseudonyms.

:D
Arseholes. Probably go to a couple of matches a year and think they are experts.

If there are no experts or people with knowledge on here feck off and don't read the site then.

One thing that has concerned me over the last few years is the disdain with which the Under 21 process is taken in this county.
In the powers down south its a natural stepping stone, minor, Under 21, senior.
You only have to look at some of the games down south over the last couple of years to see its competitive and players use it as a 'shop window' to impress to step up to senior.
Seemingly those who turned up this year (to the first session 4 days before the semi final) were all picked...I should have gone for a tight shave that day, heightened the pitch of the voice and rocked up.

Not good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 22, 2011, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 22, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 21, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 21, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Name : liam                                                                                                                                     20 July 2011

                                                                                                                                         
I was 'reading' another GAA guestbook site where 'knowledgeable people' converse with one another etc, leave comments, opinions etc re Antrim hurling! It says a lot about their collective wisdom in relation to hurling that they didn't seem too familiar with names etc of Antrim U21 players or to which clubs the players belong!
Hurler on the ditch.

Yep, there are plenty of these pseudo-experts who enjoy pontificating and derive some type of fetish posting their opinions under juvenile pseudonyms.

:D
Arseholes. Probably go to a couple of matches a year and think they are experts.

If there are no experts or people with knowledge on here feck off and don't read the site then.

One thing that has concerned me over the last few years is the disdain with which the Under 21 process is taken in this county.
In the powers down south its a natural stepping stone, minor, Under 21, senior.
You only have to look at some of the games down south over the last couple of years to see its competitive and players use it as a 'shop window' to impress to step up to senior.
Seemingly those who turned up this year (to the first session 4 days before the semi final) were all picked...I should have gone for a tight shave that day, heightened the pitch of the voice and rocked up.

Not good enough.

Exactly...complete bullshit but the sad reality is that it has always been a farce of a competition and has been treated as such by the powers. Doesn't seem to be anywhere in the calender for it to have a footing.

I hope liam joins us and can put us all staight on why we don't know shit about Antrim hurling. I did cringe though when some one who should know better didn't know what amalgmation Glenshesk was
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2011, 10:45:41 AM
How's you fairing up for Championship Skull? Are the Richmonds, Ally Elliot, and Dick still playing?

We have ya's at Casement on the 28th of August so it should give ya's an extra game at Casement when you blow us out of the water
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on July 22, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 19, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
Under 21 team to play Derry:
1. Adrian Downey
2. Chris Loughran
3.  Conor Gillan
4.  Conor Laverty
5. Conor McCann
6.  Dessie McLean
7. Eoin Gillan
8. Hugh Connor
9. Jack Corcoran
10.  James Black
11.  James McCouaig
12. Kevin McKernan
13. Mark Scally
14.  Matthew Donnelly
15. Michael Callahan
16. Michael Devlin
17. Naoise O'Caiteallain
18.  Neilly Cunningham
19.  Niall McAlea
20. Peter McKeague
21. Ryan Carson
22.  Stephen McGinn
23. Stephen Smyth
24.  Tony McCloskey

alphabetical order, was a bit confused by some of them positions alright!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 22, 2011, 12:26:06 PM
Senior Hurling Friendly Saturday 23rd
July 2011
McQuillan v Antrim U21
5pm Pairc Mac Uilin
Club Bar Open after the game 

http://www.mcquillangac.com/news/details/?id=276
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2011, 10:45:41 AM
How's you fairing up for Championship Skull? Are the Richmonds, Ally Elliot, and Dick still playing?

We have ya's at Casement on the 28th of August so it should give ya's an extra game at Casement when you blow us out of the water

Thank god GD can't do this one. According to Loughgeil lads, he appears to be getting a little familair with Dunloy from what I have heard?  Mostly likely OE, given that RM is retired and past it. But then, he may make one of those miraculous recoveries of his!  ;D :D 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 22, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Thank god GD can't do this one. According to Loughgeil lads, he appears to be getting a little familair with Dunloy from what I have heard?  Mostly likely OE, given that RM is retired and past it. But then, he may make one of those miraculous recoveries of his!  ;D :D 


So in your opinion you reckon he's big enough to take verbal abuse from a tr**p supporter (your very first post on this board), but not big enough to referee fairly. Confusing. But I suppose the latter is not your opinion, it's "what you've heard"  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2011, 05:08:41 PM
Skull1- How did the match go last night, I hear it was pretty tight most of the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2011, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 22, 2011, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 22, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 21, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 21, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Name : liam                                                                                                                                     20 July 2011

                                                                                                                                         
I was 'reading' another GAA guestbook site where 'knowledgeable people' converse with one another etc, leave comments, opinions etc re Antrim hurling! It says a lot about their collective wisdom in relation to hurling that they didn't seem too familiar with names etc of Antrim U21 players or to which clubs the players belong!
Hurler on the ditch.

Yep, there are plenty of these pseudo-experts who enjoy pontificating and derive some type of fetish posting their opinions under juvenile pseudonyms.

:D
Arseholes. Probably go to a couple of matches a year and think they are experts.

If there are no experts or people with knowledge on here feck off and don't read the site then.

One thing that has concerned me over the last few years is the disdain with which the Under 21 process is taken in this county.
In the powers down south its a natural stepping stone, minor, Under 21, senior.
You only have to look at some of the games down south over the last couple of years to see its competitive and players use it as a 'shop window' to impress to step up to senior.
Seemingly those who turned up this year (to the first session 4 days before the semi final) were all picked...I should have gone for a tight shave that day, heightened the pitch of the voice and rocked up.

Not good enough.

Exactly...complete bullshit but the sad reality is that it has always been a farce of a competition and has been treated as such by the powers. Doesn't seem to be anywhere in the calender for it to have a footing.

I hope liam joins us and can put us all staight on why we don't know shit about Antrim hurling. I did cringe though when some one who should know better didn't know what amalgmation Glenshesk was
Who didn't know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2011, 10:45:41 AM
How's you fairing up for Championship Skull? Are the Richmonds, Ally Elliot, and Dick still playing?

We have ya's at Casement on the 28th of August so it should give ya's an extra game at Casement when you blow us out of the water

Thank god GD can't do this one. According to Loughgeil lads, he appears to be getting a little familair with Dunloy from what I have heard?  Mostly likely OE, given that RM is retired and past it. But then, he may make one of those miraculous recoveries of his!  ;D :D
*Loughgiel/Loughguile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 22, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Thank god GD can't do this one. According to Loughgeil lads, he appears to be getting a little familair with Dunloy from what I have heard?  Mostly likely OE, given that RM is retired and past it. But then, he may make one of those miraculous recoveries of his!  ;D :D 


So in your opinion you reckon he's big enough to take verbal abuse from a tr**p supporter (your very first post on this board), but not big enough to referee fairly. Confusing. But I suppose the latter is not your opinion, it's "what you've heard"  ::)
Not my first post at all!  And I suppose you being a Dunloy man, you dont have tr**p supporters at all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2011, 11:56:29 PM
There always seems to be some refs who come on here and berate other referees!!!

They should set up their own forum , as they have nothing really to add
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 23, 2011, 12:28:30 AM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 22, 2011, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: WingeandWin on July 22, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Thank god GD can't do this one. According to Loughgeil lads, he appears to be getting a little familair with Dunloy from what I have heard?  Mostly likely OE, given that RM is retired and past it. But then, he may make one of those miraculous recoveries of his!  ;D :D 


So in your opinion you reckon he's big enough to take verbal abuse from a tr**p supporter (your very first post on this board), but not big enough to referee fairly. Confusing. But I suppose the latter is not your opinion, it's "what you've heard"  ::)
Not my first post at all! And I suppose you being a Dunloy man, you dont have tr**p supporters at all?
Yes we do. Nothing to do with  my point though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 23, 2011, 02:44:56 AM
On another note, I think it's difficult to choose between the "big three" this year, and I'm not ruling out a surprise challenge from another team.

I suppose on the plus side for us is the return of
Johnny and Winker. Both of whom should be fully fit and fresh for the start of the championship. On the negative side we've lost young McKillop to Australia.

IMO whoever wants it the most will win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 23, 2011, 11:50:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2011, 11:56:29 PM
There always seems to be some refs who come on here and berate other referees!!!

They should set up their own forum , as they have nothing really to add

If you are inferring that I am a referee, you could not be more wrong!  I am too young yet for that nonsense, plus I have not got a big enough ego!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2011, 11:57:45 AM
I heard that St Johns has been burnt down!! Anyone heard anything about this? I believe they had trouble not long ago with the locals and it seems it was broken into and loads of damage was done to the clubrooms.

I have an alibi all night ;)

Hardstation, where were you late last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2011, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 23, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2011, 11:57:45 AM
I heard that St Johns has been burnt down!! Anyone heard anything about this? I believe they had trouble not long ago with the locals and it seems it was broken into and loads of damage was done to the clubrooms.

I have an alibi all night ;)

Hardstation, where were you late last night?

No word of a lie. Fire brigade working at it all night. Sad day for Naomh Eoin.

Gees that's awful if true.

Can we stop with the referee bashing??  getting a bit personal on here - no need.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Thats bad craic, for years clubs were burnt down for other reasons, now we have f**king hoods from our own area doing it.!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 23, 2011, 02:09:44 PM
Common theme emerging here where a new member comes onto this thread and personally insults usually referee's.

Desperate news about St
John's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 24, 2011, 12:17:44 AM
All Ireland Minor Quarter Final:

Galway 8-26-0-12 Antrim :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 24, 2011, 01:05:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2011, 11:57:45 AM
I heard that St Johns has been burnt down!! Anyone heard anything about this? I believe they had trouble not long ago with the locals and it seems it was broken into and loads of damage was done to the clubrooms.

I have an alibi all night ;)

Hardstation, where were you late last night?
Saw that headline on teletext earlier about GAA club fire. Like most I suspected a loyalist arson attack. Read the article and it's f**king hoods thieving money from poker machines and robbing drink and cigarettes. Absolute scumbags.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2011, 12:35:48 PM
Yes you're right groundlie, we've had a few break ins lately (changing rooms burned down) and these wnakers seem to be intent on damaging their own areas.

I heard there was arrests groundlie, is this true

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 24, 2011, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2011, 12:35:48 PM
Yes you're right groundlie, we've had a few break ins lately (changing rooms burned down) and these wnakers seem to be intent on damaging their own areas.

I heard there was arrests groundlie, is this true

I heard there was a 16 and a 19 year old arrested.  The 19 year old had been at it before and warned.  Didn't hear any names though.  Ballymurphy I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on July 25, 2011, 01:04:17 AM
Shocking!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2011, 10:20:04 AM
Terrible for St Johns but hope that they can turn it into a positive and have the members rally round.

Time for that club to stand up and be counted again on all fronts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sniper on July 25, 2011, 04:48:49 PM
It will take more than that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 26, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
Right,

Now that the holiday period is out of the way and the serious stuff is not that far away, how does everyone think the championship will work out?

I think if Cushendall get over their recent blip i cant see them being stopped. But it is a slightly worrying wobble for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
With a few league games to go before championship I'd imagine that all the teams with serious thoughts of winning will be playing their strongest teams in the coming weeks. Cushendall have had a bit of a blip but will surely be favourites though others here will say different :o

As for who won't win it, will ourselves, Glenariffe, Rossa, Johnnies and Ballycastle have no serious claims, but who will get the semifinal spot from that lot?

We've Dunloy in Belfast (our first match in senior championship in Belfast for 5 years) As the game is at Casement I doubt that it will give us any advantage and tighter pitch would have been a better option for us to keep it competitive.

Dunloy running into form and maybe not done yet, Loughgiel waiting on the prodigal son to return for them to play his obligatory 3 games a year to try and win the championship,but it's Cushendall for me because they have a strong defence and if the right ball is played into the forwards they will beat the other two contenders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 26, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
I'd tend to agree with you MR2.  I dont think there's much in it between Loughgiel and Dunloy with Cushendall slightly better because of their better attacking options.  The current absence of DMK and SMN however might just even things up (although I believe they will be back for the serious end of the championship).

All in all not much in it between the 'big 3' so I think it will all be on the day.

We start with Rossa in Glenravel.  Fairly confident that we'll beat them but we often struggle to put teams away in the way that Dunloy and to a certain extent Cushendall always seem capable of doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 26, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 26, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
I'd tend to agree with you MR2.  I dont think there's much in it between Loughgiel and Dunloy with Cushendall slightly better because of their better attacking options.  The current absence of DMK and SMN however might just even things up (although I believe they will be back for the serious end of the championship).

All in all not much in it between the 'big 3' so I think it will all be on the day.

We start with Rossa in Glenravel.  Fairly confident that we'll beat them but we often struggle to put teams away in the way that Dunloy and to a certain extent Cushendall always seem capable of doing.

We've always been told our options are limited up front with too many backs.....

What dates are each stages to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 02:51:00 PM
Loughgiel  Rossa  Glenravel 26/08/2011 19:15   
Ballycastle  St Johns  Cushendall 27/08/2011 19:00   
St Galls  Dunloy  Casement Park 28/08/2011 18:00   
Cushendall  Glenariffe  Loughgiel  28/08/2011 18:00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 26, 2011, 02:51:11 PM
As far as I know QF last weekend in August, Semis 2 Weeks later and final last weekend in Sept, open to correction on that.

Wouldnt have thought the options were limited when you will be playing NMcM, PM, SMcN and KMcK all in the forward line seems to me plenty of options there.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 26, 2011, 02:51:11 PM
As far as I know QF last weekend in August, Semis 2 Weeks later and final last weekend in Sept, open to correction on that.

Wouldnt have thought the options were limited when you will be playing NMcM, PM, SMcN and KMcK all in the forward line seems to me plenty of options there.  ;)

Loughgiel  Rossa  Glenravel 26/08/2011 19:15   
Ballycastle  St Johns  Cushendall 27/08/2011 19:00   
St Galls  Dunloy  Casement Park 28/08/2011 18:00   
Cushendall  Glenariffe  Loughgiel  28/08/2011 18:00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
With a few league games to go before championship I'd imagine that all the teams with serious thoughts of winning will be playing their strongest teams in the coming weeks. Cushendall have had a bit of a blip but will surely be favourites though others here will say different :o

As for who won't win it, will ourselves, Glenariffe, Rossa, Johnnies and Ballycastle have no serious claims, but who will get the semifinal spot from that lot?

We've Dunloy in Belfast (our first match in senior championship in Belfast for 5 years) As the game is at Casement I doubt that it will give us any advantage and tighter pitch would have been a better option for us to keep it competitive.

Dunloy running into form and maybe not done yet, Loughgiel waiting on the prodigal son to return for them to play his obligatory 3 games a year to try and win the championship,but it's Cushendall for me because they have a strong defence and if the right ball is played into the forwards they will beat the other two contenders.
Well, you can't expect him to play when he's injured now, can you?   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 26, 2011, 07:52:49 PM
U21 panel to face Armagh in the Ulster Hurling Final and I've included the club names for those of you who know nothing about hurling in your own county  ;D

1 Adrian Downey St Johns
2 Brian Curran St Teresas
3 Chris Loughran Sarsfields
4 Ciaran Johnston St Johns
5 Conor Gillan Shamrocks
6 Conor Laverty St Brigids
7 Conor McCann Kickhams
8 Desy McClean Gort na Mona
9 Eoin Gillan  Ruari Og
10 James Black Carey
11 James McCouaig Carey
12 Kevin McKeirnan Sarsfields
13 Mark Donaghy Ruari Og
14 Mark Scally Emmetts
15 Matthew Donnelly McQuillans
16 Michael Devlin St Brigids
17 Neilly Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
18 Niall McAlea Sarsfields
19 Nigel Elliott Cuchullains
20 Peter McKeague Cuchullains
21 Stephen McGinn Carey
22 Stephen Smyth St Brigids
23 Terry McAlister Ruari Og
24 Tony McCloskey Shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 26, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 26, 2011, 07:52:49 PM
U21 panel to face Armagh in the Ulster Hurling Final and I've included the club names for those of you who know nothing about hurling in your own county  ;D

1 Adrian Downey St Johns
2 Brian Curran St Teresas
3 Chris Loughran Sarsfields
4 Ciaran Johnston St Johns
5 Conor Gillan Shamrocks
6 Conor Laverty St Brigids
7 Conor McCann Kickhams
8 Desy McClean Gort na Mona
9 Eoin Gillan  Ruari Og
10 James Black Carey
11 James McCouaig Carey
12 Kevin McKeirnan Sarsfields
13 Mark Donaghy Ruari Og
14 Mark Scally Emmetts
15 Matthew Donnelly McQuillans
16 Michael Devlin St Brigids
17 Neilly Cunningham Lamh Dhearg
18 Niall McAlea Sarsfields
19 Nigel Elliott Cuchullains
20 Peter McKeague Cuchullains
21 Stephen McGinn Carey
22 Stephen Smyth St Brigids
23 Terry McAlister Ruari Og
24 Tony McCloskey Shamrocks
Only one McQuillans man, no Rossa men, says it all for sure!  Terrible state of affairs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WingeandWin on July 26, 2011, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
With a few league games to go before championship I'd imagine that all the teams with serious thoughts of winning will be playing their strongest teams in the coming weeks. Cushendall have had a bit of a blip but will surely be favourites though others here will say different :o

As for who won't win it, will ourselves, Glenariffe, Rossa, Johnnies and Ballycastle have no serious claims, but who will get the semifinal spot from that lot?

We've Dunloy in Belfast (our first match in senior championship in Belfast for 5 years) As the game is at Casement I doubt that it will give us any advantage and tighter pitch would have been a better option for us to keep it competitive.

Dunloy running into form and maybe not done yet, Loughgiel waiting on the prodigal son to return for them to play his obligatory 3 games a year to try and win the championship,but it's Cushendall for me because they have a strong defence and if the right ball is played into the forwards they will beat the other two contenders.
Well, you can't expect him to play when he's injured now, can you?   ;)
I am sure there are plenty of teams would be glad to have the "prodigal son" on their panel even half fit, ourselves included of course!  I really can see past Loughgiel to be honest.  Man for man, I feel they have more strengh and depth, youth and fitness on their side and a reasonable reserves bench at that!  We are clearly out of the picture this year without question!  I just hope there referees live upto the mark, I hope the selection of refs is kind to us in the first instance, if ya know what I mean.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
With a few league games to go before championship I'd imagine that all the teams with serious thoughts of winning will be playing their strongest teams in the coming weeks. Cushendall have had a bit of a blip but will surely be favourites though others here will say different :o

As for who won't win it, will ourselves, Glenariffe, Rossa, Johnnies and Ballycastle have no serious claims, but who will get the semifinal spot from that lot?

We've Dunloy in Belfast (our first match in senior championship in Belfast for 5 years) As the game is at Casement I doubt that it will give us any advantage and tighter pitch would have been a better option for us to keep it competitive.

Dunloy running into form and maybe not done yet, Loughgiel waiting on the prodigal son to return for them to play his obligatory 3 games a year to try and win the championship,but it's Cushendall for me because they have a strong defence and if the right ball is played into the forwards they will beat the other two contenders.
Well, you can't expect him to play when he's injured now, can you?   ;)

No ya can't, but 3 games a year can't be great prep for the team or the player that plays all year only to drop out once he comes in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 26, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
why are the league games on a Saturday night this week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2011, 06:26:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
With a few league games to go before championship I'd imagine that all the teams with serious thoughts of winning will be playing their strongest teams in the coming weeks. Cushendall have had a bit of a blip but will surely be favourites though others here will say different :o

As for who won't win it, will ourselves, Glenariffe, Rossa, Johnnies and Ballycastle have no serious claims, but who will get the semifinal spot from that lot?

We've Dunloy in Belfast (our first match in senior championship in Belfast for 5 years) As the game is at Casement I doubt that it will give us any advantage and tighter pitch would have been a better option for us to keep it competitive.

Dunloy running into form and maybe not done yet, Loughgiel waiting on the prodigal son to return for them to play his obligatory 3 games a year to try and win the championship,but it's Cushendall for me because they have a strong defence and if the right ball is played into the forwards they will beat the other two contenders.
Well, you can't expect him to play when he's injured now, can you?   ;)

No ya can't, but 3 games a year can't be great prep for the team or the player that plays all year only to drop out once he comes in.
I think you'll find he averages quite a bit more than 3 games a year MR2. This year he was injured, not much can be done about that other than wait to heal. There's not a club in the county, or country, that wouldn't play him if he was fit. I don't believe he'll start against Rossa all the same. An opportunity for whoever is playing to prove that they're worth their place, don't you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 27, 2011, 10:31:18 AM
Anybody got the odds for the Championship?

What about -

Cushendall 4/5
Loughgiel 8/5
Dunloy 2/1
St John's 6/1
Ballycastle 8/1
Glenarriff 10/1
Rossa 12/1
St Galls 20/1

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 27, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Shite odds.

Should be 50/1 plus from the Johnnies down.

Didn't want to be too disrespectful to the other teams but thanks, as ever, for your constructive criticism HS  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2011, 08:46:23 PM
Antrim level with Armagh in tonights game. Min to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 27, 2011, 08:47:53 PM
Antrim got two late points in injury time to win by two
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
Bring back Sambo and Woody for this level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 27, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
Bring back Sambo and Woody for this level

Sambo had a go at it before. It wouldn't matter who was in charge, it would still be treated like shit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 27, 2011, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 27, 2011, 08:47:53 PM
Antrim got two late points in injury time to win by two

where was this game played?

The Morgan Fuels Athletic grounds by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2011, 10:25:19 PM
They at least were competitive with the big teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
They should have been left alone to bring through those minor teams to u21 and jingo should have been kept in his job.

a win is a win but the next game could be nasty.

While you would like to win these games easily it is good to see Armagh upping their game at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 27, 2011, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 27, 2011, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 27, 2011, 08:47:53 PM
Antrim got two late points in injury time to win by two

where was this game played?

The Morgan Fuels Athletic grounds by any chance?

They tossed a coin, unfortunately for Armagh both sides were heads and Antrim were allowed to call first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 28, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
Antrim edge out unlucky Armagh in Under 21 final - Antrim 0-15 Armagh 2-7

   27 July 2011
Late scores from team captain Conor McCann and injury-time substitute Neil Cunningham saw Antrim win the Ulster Under-21 Hurling Championship for the third year in a row against unlucky Armagh in Wednesday evening's final at Casement Park.
For most of the first half it appeared that Armagh, who were appearing in their second final in succession, were on course to make history and lift their first title at this grade. The Orchard county boys were on top in many sectors and when they went 1-4 to 0-2 clear in a low scoring first –half Antrim looked to be in trouble.
However the Saffrons rallied before the break to cut the arrears to a goal, and the introduction of substitute Ciaran Johnston (son of Armagh manager Mickey Johnston) at the start of the second-half and the switching of corner-back Terry McAllister to full-back, helped turn things in the home team's favour.
It was still far from plain sailing for Antrim however, but Johnston's influence at midfield certainly gave them the edge and slowly but surely they chipped away at the Armagh lead. Some excellent point taking by Conor McCann, and Tony McCloskey saw Antrim edge two clear, but the handful of Antrim fans in rain swept Casement Park had to endure more drama as Armagh goaled at the other end to retake the lead with just eight minutes left for play.
Excellent approach work by right-half-forward Dessie McLean sent James Black clear for the equaliser and Ciaran Johnston hit a beauty to edge the Saffrons back in front, but Armagh responded again and the excellent Conor Corvan sent over the equaliser with just a minute of normal time left for play.
A replay looked a distinct possibility but Conor McCann held his nerve well to send over a difficult free from sixty metres for the lead score before Cunningham sent over the insurance point with his first touch of the ball in the sixty-second minute.
Antrim: E Gillan; T McAllister, A Downey, J McCouig; N McAlea, M Donnelly, K McKiernan (0-1, 1f); C Laverty, S Smyth (0-1); J Black (0-1), M Devlin, D McLean (0-1); N Elliott (0-1), C McCann (0-6, 4f) T McCloskey (0-2).
Subs: C Johnston (0-1) for Devlin (HT); C Loughran for Downey (39); N Cunningham (0-1) for Elliott (60).
Armagh: S Doherty; M Garvey, F Corvan, N Duffy; T Marley, P Heaney, JJ Hughes; K McKernan, M Lennon; M Maguire (0-1), J King, C McKee (0-1); A Mackle, C Corvan (1-4, 4f), D Nugent (0-1).
Subs: E Carvill for Mackle (19); R Lewis for N Duffy (HT); L Woods for Marley (41); T Duffy (1-0) for Lewis (50).
Referee: Eamon Hassan (Derry)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2011, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2011, 10:13:18 AM

They cherry pick the teams they look after.

They do not. One of the two may do so but the other one definitely doesn't and has done plenty of service with poor teams and came back even after being treated poorly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 28, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2011, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2011, 10:25:19 PM
They at least were competitive with the big teams

No doubt Sambo will be sniffing about next year's minor team though. Watch this space....

Is there a good crop coming through next year?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 29, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 26, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
why are the league games on a Saturday night this week?
I'm not sure. Maybe it's because the junior and intermediate championships start on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 30, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.[\b]

You don't mind if we keep this investigation open until we hear the Ballycastle side of it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
IHC starts tonight. Think i will go for a St Pauls and Carey wins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 30, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.

You don't mind if we keep this investigation open until we hear the Ballycastle side of it?

Game was into injury time and we were losing by about 7 or 8 points and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of our players threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Our subs and some of our supporters entered the field first, followed by Cushendall's subs and some spectators.  Resulted in one red card for Saul McCaughan, who had been having a tough time of it marking Larne born full-back, Fergal McKillop, who having only transferred to The Dall this year, put in a sturdy MOTM performance.  We lost by 10 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 30, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
Well WingeandWin very quiet on this one so, suppose your going to blame the Referee Duffy, Elliott,Matthews, Hasson, Cunning, Mc Auley, Magee, Compston, are you, your lads are totally innocent! Made the statement not so long ago, and will do the same again, time the county took zero tolerance, supporters getting onto the pitch free for all etc etc etc,. Frankie and Jim are going to have grow a pair, and set an example, CCC I'm sure are on treble time at the minute, lets hope the CHC grow the same pair that Jim and Frankie need and back the CCC and wee Joe all the way. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
It's a wonder we're not getting the blame for it. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
It's a wonder we're not getting the blame for it. :)

Don`t worry, somebody will try to drag Loughgiel into it. Maybe it was an undercover ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on July 30, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
Predictions for Ballymena v Ardoyne on sunday in JHC???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on July 30, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
Predictions for Ballymena v Ardoyne on sunday in JHC???

Haven't seen much of either team this year but i would predict a Ballymena win. How is Ardoyne coming along for the jhc? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2011, 08:12:14 PM
Nice win against Glenariffe this evening. 1-12 to 2-17. Jc and winker came on and got 2 points each.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2011, 09:20:42 PM
Gaels beat St Paul's by a point tonight in the Interm. championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
Randalstown also beat Carey in the ihc by 3-10-0-10.

All of todays results

Tir na Nog   3-10   0-10   Carey Faughs   All Saints      
St Pauls   1-7   0-11   Clooney Gaels   Rossa      

Antrim Div 1 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballygalget   0-15   1-21   Dunloy   Ballygalget   Round 12   
Portaferry   2-10   0-13   St Johns   Portaferry   Round 12   
Loughgiel   2-17   1-12   Glenariffe   Loughgiel   Round 12   
Cushendall   1-18   1-6   Ballycran   Cushendall   Round 12   

Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Ballygalget   4-14   2-9   Dunloy   Ballygalget   Round 12   
Cushendall   3-15   2-3   Ballycran   Cushendall   Round 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on July 31, 2011, 01:31:04 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
IHC starts tonight. Think i will go for a St Pauls and Carey wins

Hope you never made it to the bookies FG  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 31, 2011, 01:34:59 AM
Quote from: aontroim on July 31, 2011, 01:31:04 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on July 30, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
IHC starts tonight. Think i will go for a St Pauls and Carey wins

Hope you never made it to the bookies FG  ;)

Thankfully i stayed away :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 31, 2011, 09:24:23 AM
Big win for the Dall. Are ballycran in a bit of bother this year?

We'd a decent win against ballygalget, turned a 5 point half time deficit into an 8 point win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on July 31, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
tir na nog v lamh derg in the ihc quarter final will be worth a watch!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on July 31, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
tir na nog v lamh derg in the ihc quarter final will be worth a watch!!

Two evenly matched teams could go either way but i expect Lamhs to win this one.

They beat us not long ago and by all accounts (wasn't at it) they played really well. Though we aren't great and haven't been training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on July 31, 2011, 05:51:12 PM
JHC result-Ballymena 0-17 0-3 Ardoyne

Div 2 result-Gort na Mona 0-9 0-19 Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2011, 08:41:28 PM
JHC result  St.Endas    3-5   1-9  McDermots.  Very bad tempered affair culminating in a mini brawl after the final whistle. one of the Endas players reacted to a slap and got involved in a wresling match with a McDs man, another McDs man bowled over into the 2 of them slipped and the 2 boys fell on him breaking his leg. A good few of the rest of the McDs men then went nuts as they thought we had broken their mans leg. One guy swinging at peoples heads with his hurl, another polaxed a 17 year old kid who was walking off the pitch. Some of their lads helped calm things down but theres a good few psycos in that club that shouldn't be allowed to hold a hurl.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
Mc Dees back to doing what they do best??

In fairness we haven't had a major battle with them in a right few years but Championship usually brings that outta them, mind seeing them in a play off match years ago with Cloughmills,  murder picture  :P :P

Big shock there I've noticed that Sarsfields were beat by St Teresas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 31, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
Intermediate championship:

Rasharkin 3-5  Cloughmills 4-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 31, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.

There was people associated with both clubs at this match who acted disgracefully so dont come on here trying to take the moral high ground on behalf of Cushendall. I think the referee could have nipped it in the bud before it escalated...he didnt and its now up to him to deal with it through his report. End of story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 31, 2011, 11:57:46 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 31, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.

There was people associated with both clubs at this match who acted disgracefully so dont come on here trying to take the moral high ground on behalf of Cushendall. I think the referee could have nipped it in the bud before it escalated...he didnt and its now up to him to deal with it through his report. End of story.

If you take a look at my post again you'll see that I never even mentioned the actions of anyone who entered the pitch, as I am perfectly aware that both sides have things to account for.  I merely stated that someone from Ballycastle was the first to go over the fence, but yes, so did people from Cushendall - it shouldn't happen anyway.  I'm not taking any moral high ground.

I agree with you that the referee could have done more to stop it becoming what it did.  He seemed to just stand back and watch the beginnings of the brawl as if he was waiting to see something to give someone the line for..but it quickly got out of hand. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 01, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 31, 2011, 11:57:46 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 31, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.

There was people associated with both clubs at this match who acted disgracefully so dont come on here trying to take the moral high ground on behalf of Cushendall. I think the referee could have nipped it in the bud before it escalated...he didnt and its now up to him to deal with it through his report. End of story.

If you take a look at my post again you'll see that I never even mentioned the actions of anyone who entered the pitch, as I am perfectly aware that both sides have things to account for.  I merely stated that someone from Ballycastle was the first to go over the fence, but yes, so did people from Cushendall - it shouldn't happen anyway.  I'm not taking any moral high ground.

I agree with you that the referee could have done more to stop it becoming what it did.  He seemed to just stand back and watch the beginnings of the brawl as if he was waiting to see something to give someone the line for..but it quickly got out of hand.

Is that not his job?  He's not a bouncer !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 01, 2011, 11:41:13 AM
i'm with pdiddy, why would a referee get involved, no one is oing to protect him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 01, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Yeah totally against what any referee would be told to do.

Time for some serious action to be taken. No back door agreements no pandering to clubs, stand up and stick to the rules, going to be a sad day when someone ends up dead as a result of one of these brawls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 01, 2011, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 31, 2011, 11:57:46 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 31, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 30, 2011, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: gelvis on July 30, 2011, 10:19:45 AM
Bit of trouble at the C'dall B'castle minor championship match lastnight?  Managers and all in?

Game was into injury time with Cushendall at least 7 or 8 points ahead and they won a free about their own 15/20 yard line.  One of the Ballycastle players (I think it was their no.14 Saul McCaughan - open to correction) threw a kick and all hell broke loose amongst the players.  Ballycastle subs and supporters entered the fray first, followed by Cushendall.  Resulted in one red card for Ballycastle's Saul McCaughan.  Cushendall won by 10 points.

There was people associated with both clubs at this match who acted disgracefully so dont come on here trying to take the moral high ground on behalf of Cushendall. I think the referee could have nipped it in the bud before it escalated...he didnt and its now up to him to deal with it through his report. End of story.

If you take a look at my post again you'll see that I never even mentioned the actions of anyone who entered the pitch, as I am perfectly aware that both sides have things to account for.  I merely stated that someone from Ballycastle was the first to go over the fence, but yes, so did people from Cushendall - it shouldn't happen anyway.  I'm not taking any moral high ground.

I agree with you that the referee could have done more to stop it becoming what it did.  He seemed to just stand back and watch the beginnings of the brawl as if he was waiting to see something to give someone the line for..but it quickly got out of hand.

Nah I didn't mean that he should have been getting involved in between the players, but he didn't even blow his whistle after the first incident. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2011, 01:25:41 PM
I hear someone got skelped on the sidelines at the Cloughmills/Rasharkin game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 01, 2011, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2011, 01:25:41 PM
I hear someone got skelped on the sidelines at the Cloughmills/Rasharkin game.

Go on then...more (second hand) details please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2011, 02:54:48 PM
He got a thump for being "ill bred" from a certain "Rasharkin" man who hurls in different colours. Heard it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sniper on August 01, 2011, 04:24:59 PM
Championship has arrived! Totally agree NAG1 the county needs to deal with all this, MIBG has been spouting on in defense of Referees and what the county needs to do and to be fair I have to agree with him/her this time. I hear Referees lead by some of the senior lads are asking for a total meeting of there own committee but Tommy Mac and colleagues seem to burying their heads in the sand and ignoring requests from a fairly high number I hear. Potential Mutiny on the Horizon if they are ignored and who would blame them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 01, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
Clubs need to take severe action against troublemakers and ban them for good,instead of letting them slip back in when they think the fuss has died down.The GAA is becoming a joke mainly due to the indiscipline of players and supporters alike.
Maybe each club should be made responsible for monitoring crowd behaviour and taking action when necessary no matter who it offends.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 01, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
We've a double header with the bodies on wednesday night yet nothing on Sunday. I know there's football championship in Antrim at the weekend but are there many Loughgiel players affected by that?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2011, 09:50:38 PM
No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 01, 2011, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 01, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
We've a double header with the bodies on wednesday night yet nothing on Sunday. I know there's football championship in Antrim at the weekend but are there many Loughgiel players affected by that?

I heard tonight that we tried to get it changed to Sunday but County wouldn't let us.  They said we were too late in asking  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 01, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 01, 2011, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 01, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
We've a double header with the bodies on wednesday night yet nothing on Sunday. I know there's football championship in Antrim at the weekend but are there many Loughgiel players affected by that?

I heard tonight that we tried to get it changed to Sunday but County wouldn't let us.  They said we were too late in asking  ::)

Surely, as the mods on the county site keep saying, this is a decision for both teams and the referees.

Ludicrous if they don't allow with a clear weekend for both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Im sure both clubs could sort this among themselves.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 02, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
Is Sarsfield's pitch closed? They are playing Armoy at St Paul's tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on August 02, 2011, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 02, 2011, 06:52:49 PM
Is Sarsfield's pitch closed? They are playing Armoy at St Paul's tomorrow.

apparently because of what happened to the referee last week the county has taken home matches away form the club. Our minors play them at O'Donnells pitch on Friday night in the minor championship. Bit of a strange pitch to chose imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 02, 2011, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
Im sure both clubs could sort this among themselves.

Allegedly we were never asked to move it and I suppose its no skin off our nose, just doesn't make sense to me though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
We play Portaferry on Sunday. Re-arranged from the postponed game a couple of weeks ago due to the weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2011, 08:52:35 PM
Half time in the peninsula:

Ballygalget 1-02 Loughgiel 2-14.

We had the best of a strong breeze in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
Full time:

Ballygalget 2-11 Loughgiel 2-22
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 03, 2011, 10:25:11 PM
Dunloy   2-19   1-11   Portaferry   Dunloy   Round 13   
Ballygalget   2-11   2-22   Loughgiel   Ballygalget   Round 13   
Glenariffe   2-15   1-12   Ballycran   Glenariffe   Round 13   
St Johns   0-8   3-19   Cushendall   Corrigan Park   Round 13   

Antrim Reserve Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Dunloy   3-14   3-9   Portaferry   Dunloy   Round 13   
Ballygalget   0-5   3-17   Loughgiel   Ballygalget   Round 13   

Antrim Div 2 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Carey Faughs   2-17   1-18   Rossa   Carey Faughs   Round 16   
Gort Na Mona   3-5   1-23   Lamh Dhearg   Gort Na Mona   Round 16   
Ballycastle   3-17   0-10   Clooney Gaels   Ballycastle   Round 16   

Antrim Div 3 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Rasharkin   0-16   1-12   St Pauls   Rasharkin   Round 14   
Cloughmills   3-15   1-18   Glenravel   Cloughmills   Round 14   
Sarsfields   5-13   2-9   Glen Rovers Armoy   St. Pauls   Round 14   

Antrim Div 4 Hurling
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Creggan   1-17   1-13   Sean Treacys   Creggan   Round 11   
St Teresas   3-20   2-7   St Endas   St. Teresas   Round 11   
All Saints         O Donnells   All Saints   Not Played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
Our games (div 2 div 4) were called off due to the County banning us from having home games because footballers belonging to the club during a Reserve Championship Shield game abused the referee and he didn't get their names after the game.

The county ask the club to tell them who it was otherwise they would ban all the teams within the club from having home games plus £500 fine.

I am a referee and have done loads of games were you get 'abused' 'ref you're a f**king cheat' 'Your f**king useless' 'Do ya know the rules ya dickhead?'

Now the dicks from that team should not have give off to the referee, the game in injury time was level, the won a sideline ball and a player kicked the ball away, the referee moved the ball 15 meters in from the sideline (thats a new rule for me) and they slotted the ball over and won the match.

I'm raging that we ended up with 30 + players on a great night for hurling missing out, not just our lads, but the 30 plus players from Glenarm and Ardoyne.

Maybe the next few games I get I should report all the teams to the county if I'm called a dickhead. I'm guessing all of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 03, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
Our games (div 2 div 4) were called off due to the County banning us from having home games because footballers belonging to the club during a Reserve Championship Shield game abused the referee and he didn't get their names after the game.

The county ask the club to tell them who it was otherwise they would ban all the teams within the club from having home games plus £500 fine.

I am a referee and have done loads of games were you get 'abused' 'ref you're a f**king cheat' 'Your f**king useless' 'Do ya know the rules ya d**khead?'

Now the dicks from that team should not have give off to the referee, the game in injury time was level, the won a sideline ball and a player kicked the ball away, the referee moved the ball 15 meters in from the sideline (thats a new rule for me) and they slotted the ball over and won the match.

I'm raging that we ended up with 30 + players on a great night for hurling missing out, not just our lads, but the 30 plus players from Glenarm and Ardoyne.

Maybe the next few games I get I should report all the teams to the county if I'm called a d**khead. I'm guessing all of them

It's possible that the free could have been given for dissent when the back was kicked away/a player may have abused the referee at this point - then it could have been moved 13 metres in from the sideline for further abuse/gurning at the ref.  This happened to us in the Feis Cup in Glenariffe last year and it caused a serious bit of confusion amongst the people watching, but it is possible!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:34:38 PM
He moved the ball because someone kicked the ball away. Now if he can overturn the sideline to a free then move it inwards then fine, but who knows these things?? I've refereed for a few years and I'll have to get the rule book out on this  as i have never came across it before.

Shane O'Neill's need all the points they can get but will get no points for this, CCC said they will re fix the game should Glenarm be in a position of relegation!!! Well they are.

I'm annoyed at the players of that football team who have not come forward, but punish them not the hurlers who weren't even there!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on August 03, 2011, 11:42:39 PM
Has anyone ever heard of an indirect free? came from a lad hitting his own player on the leg, game was stopped but indirect free cause we were in possession! i know what i think but i wana check
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bredaghgael86 on August 03, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
but is it should the game not only be stopped due to a head injury? i stand corrected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on August 03, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
but is it should the game not only be stopped due to a head injury? i stand corrected.

No, they have moved on from that crazy  one, what if someone has ruptured a spleen during a challenge and you play on??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 04, 2011, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows

I think that the referee can claim that as dissent and therefore give a free against the player.  Open to correction.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on August 04, 2011, 09:05:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
Our games (div 2 div 4) were called off due to the County banning us from having home games because footballers belonging to the club during a Reserve Championship Shield game abused the referee and he didn't get their names after the game.

The county ask the club to tell them who it was otherwise they would ban all the teams within the club from having home games plus £500 fine.

I am a referee and have done loads of games were you get 'abused' 'ref you're a f**king cheat' 'Your f**king useless' 'Do ya know the rules ya d**khead?'

Now the dicks from that team should not have give off to the referee, the game in injury time was level, the won a sideline ball and a player kicked the ball away, the referee moved the ball 15 meters in from the sideline (thats a new rule for me) and they slotted the ball over and won the match.

I'm raging that we ended up with 30 + players on a great night for hurling missing out, not just our lads, but the 30 plus players from Glenarm and Ardoyne.

Maybe the next few games I get I should report all the teams to the county if I'm called a d**khead. I'm guessing all of them
He can't move a sideline but he can award a free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 04, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
I think the ref can turn a sideline into a free and again every right to move it forward.

The new rule of awarding an indirect free to the team in possession is a good one. Not fair penalising the team in possession for an injury to either team.

Decent win for ourselves against portaferry - minus paul braniff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on August 04, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on August 03, 2011, 11:42:39 PM
Has anyone ever heard of an indirect free? came from a lad hitting his own player on the leg, game was stopped but indirect free cause we were in possession! i know what i think but i wana check
Reply yeah, we've had a few this year. Apparently when a player gets injured the ref can stop play and the team in possession gets awarded a free from which they can't score, Cork got one on Sunday in the football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on August 04, 2011, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: bredaghgael86 on August 03, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
but is it should the game not only be stopped due to a head injury? i stand corrected.
That's soccer, Ref in GAA can stop play if he deems it necessary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 04, 2011, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows

I honestly don't think in the laws of the game that they can, although some ref's just seem to think that they can do what they want because they are in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 04, 2011, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
Full time:

Ballygalget 2-11 Loughgiel 2-22

Loughgiel winning at a canter to be honest. Better in all facets of the game.

Maybe some of our lads will wake up and smell the shite that's under their noses as they're certainly not as good as they think they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bloodybreakball on August 04, 2011, 12:11:21 PM
Time for some serious action to be taken. No back door agreements no pandering to clubs, stand up and stick to the rules, going to be a sad day when someone ends up dead as a result of one of these brawls.

NAG, you wrote this a couple of posts ago, bit behind I know and I dont take any joy in re-telling this, but I think that somebody has already died beacuase of one of these rows. It was in another county, minor football league match in east tyrone, local derby between one of cookstown, ardboe or moortown, something happened, full scale row. started to settle down and an 'oul' boy (maybe a mentor), pulled two young boys apart, one of the team-mates took exception to this and kicked him in the balls, 'oul' boy dropped and died on the spot, its that easy, hit somebody on the wrong part of the head, and nowadays boys are training harder and lifting wieghts .....
might be an idea, where or as much as possible for a referee to have his two linesmen and four umpires for championship matches but i understand what youse are saying in that, clubs should be monitoring themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 04, 2011, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows


Christ lads its great to see so many differences of opinions, in simple terms Rule4 4.18 clarify's all issues, however once the 13m free has been awarded "More advantageous" he cannot move it again. Thats it in a nutshell! No wonder we have some many problems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on August 04, 2011, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 04, 2011, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows


Christ lads its great to see so many differences of opinions, in simple terms Rule4 4.18 clarify's all issues, however once the 13m free has been awarded "More advantageous" he cannot move it again. Thats it in a nutshell! No wonder we have some many problems.
A well know Armagh Ref is renowned for turning 13m frees in to a penalty. His catch phrase was you keep talking I keep walking. would loved to have seen him reffing McDermotts and St Enda's judging by the posts on here it would have been like a scene from Sparticus Blood and Sand!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sniper on August 04, 2011, 05:55:18 PM
Spot on mibag I am impressed, I even looked it up! Took a while tough  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 04, 2011, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2011, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 03, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
The rule isn't that the ball gets brought forward. It's 13m in a more advantageous position If it was a free

Can he turn a sideline ball into a free because of kicking the ball away? then move it? either way a lot of hurlers missed out tonight.

Yes the indirect free is given if a team is in possession of the ball if someone is injured and the referee blows


Christ lads its great to see so many differences of opinions, in simple terms Rule4 4.18 clarify's all issues, however once the 13m free has been awarded "More advantageous" he cannot move it again. Thats it in a nutshell! No wonder we have some many problems.

Look it's this that causes the confusion.

It was a sideline ball, so the referee blows for that, opposing player comes in and kicks/throws ball away. Does the referee blow for a foul due to what? dissent, due to player throwing the ball away? if that's the case then it becomes a free, (it benifits hurling as a sideline cut becomes a free but in football it is still a kick free) in normal situations (situation ;D) the referee blows for a foul, awards a free and if someone gives dissent he then moves the ball forward.

In this case there was no free only a sideline ball, he awards a free after dissent and then moves the ball forward. That's like two moves for one 'foul' surely or am I talking through my A hole??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2011, 06:47:28 PM
I'm clearly talking shite:

4.18  To delay an opponent taking a free puck or
side-line puck by hitting or kicking the ball
away, not releasing the ball to the opposition,
or by deliberately not moving back to allow the
puck to be taken.


   PENALTY - Free puck 13m more
advantageous than the place of original
puck - up to opponents' 20m line.


Will have to read the rule book again 'shakes head'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 04, 2011, 07:04:31 PM
No worries MR anytime, your a legend. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2011, 08:02:04 PM
The word legend is overused these days don't you think?  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2011, 08:56:47 PM
Either way I'm f**k off at not playing last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on August 04, 2011, 09:45:30 PM
MR2 you seem like a man in the know! Who you reckons gonna win th shc and ihc and why??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2011, 10:52:29 PM
Lamhs knocking up big scores and playing well would not be surprised if they win. The Dall for me, the hurt from last year enough for me to think they will win. I think though that this year there will be a shock, not us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 05, 2011, 08:45:21 AM
It's been a long timesince their was a shock in the championship. Could well be the year a big team gets chinned, last time St galls played championship in casement did they not almost cause an upset, Glenarrife have shown both against Dunloy and Cushendall they are capable of an upset. And Ballycastle and Rossa both have successful u21 teams coming through.

Maybe...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 05, 2011, 10:56:02 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 05, 2011, 08:45:21 AM
It's been a long timesince their was a shock in the championship. Could well be the year a big team gets chinned, last time St galls played championship in casement did they not almost cause an upset, Glenarrife have shown both against Dunloy and Cushendall they are capable of an upset. And Ballycastle and Rossa both have successful u21 teams coming through.

Maybe...

We played St Gall's a couple of times in the Championship a few years back.  Once in Millfield and another time in Casement.  If Karl Stewart had played the full game I think they would've beat us.  I think he had been injured and only game on for the last 20 mins, thankfully.  St Gall's are a different team now though so wouldn't see them causing Dunloy any problems.  As for Glenarrife and Rossa I think both could be in with a shout of causing an upset   :o

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
He was not injured, he had been in the states all summer and the team that got us to the semi final started that day. He came on after 15 mins along with another lad and only for DD saving a one on one from a young CJ we would have won!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 05, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
He was not injured, he had been in the states all summer and the team that got us to the semi final started that day. He came on after 15 mins along with another lad and only for DD saving a one on one from a young CJ we would have won!!

I bow to your superior knowledge   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
If I recall it finished 3-10 to 4-11. We were certainly sweating it for a long time in that game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 05, 2011, 09:49:18 PM
Results from the minor championship tonight:

St Johns   2-18   0-12   Loughgiel   Corrigan Park      
Sarsfields   0-7   3-15   Cushendall   O Donnells      

Antrim Minor B Hurling Championship
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
St Pauls   4-23   1-10   Tir na Nog   St. Pauls      
Rasharkin   0-15   3-14   Shane O Neills   Rasharkin      
St Agnes         Lamh Dhearg   St. Agnes   Not Played   
St Teresas   2-7   1-18   Rossa   St. Teresas   

Still a couple of results from the A championship to come in. Really fancy Glenarm or Rossa to take the B title. It will be down to St Johns and Cushendall for the A title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
If I recall it finished 3-10 to 4-11. We were certainly sweating it for a long time in that game.

You's scored 3 goals in the first 12 minutes Johnny Campbell playing CHB!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 06, 2011, 03:00:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
If I recall it finished 3-10 to 4-11. We were certainly sweating it for a long time in that game.

You's scored 3 goals in the first 12 minutes Johnny Campbell playing CHB!!!
Isn't that his position?   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2011, 09:26:37 AM
Sorry he played CHF that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 06, 2011, 04:26:19 PM
He's been playing a bit more advanced in his comeback games. Perhaps he'll start midfield against Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 10, 2011, 11:34:29 AM
Are both UL semi's on this evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 10, 2011, 12:11:44 PM
Dunloy v Cushendall in Armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2011, 12:29:54 PM
Might check that game out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Ballycran vs Loughgiel 17/8/11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 10, 2011, 11:56:17 PM
MR  did you make it to the game tonight? Referees is a disgrace. Sent off our best player for verbal abuse whenever he didnt say a word. Another player did. If RM has a personal problem with a player that shouldnt be an excuse to give him a red card.

I know the player in question had a few words with the referee in the last league game because he got his front tooth broke in a tackle which RM didnt even give a free for. Hats no excuse to send him off tonight. Thats both matcjes he referee'd that he has let just say favourable to dunloy. Possibly helps yo have a fellow ref/chum playing for them.

Tonight has effectively ruined our championship. We are carrying alot of injuries, some of which are long term. This suspension has just left us without enough players to compete with dunloy or lougiel. We were already going to get a tight match against glenarriffe, now it would be a very good result if we do come out it.

Rant over.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2011, 12:29:39 AM
Didn't make, will hear all about it tomorrow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 07:42:36 AM
Dunloy 0:16 cushendall 1:11 AET

Both teams hurled better against a strong wind than with it, in a fairly even first half, Dunloy against the breeze made better use of possession to go in 0:6 to 0:4 up.  However shortly after the break Cushendall goaled after a slip in the dunloy defence, Neil McManus applying re finish.

McManus then followed this up by getting a red card for verbal abuse, he had been cautioned earlier in the game for this, though Cushendall players and supporters seemed to suggest the abuse came from another player. Regardless if you call a referee a cheating b@5tard someone is going to get the line.

Cushendall to their credit hurled well with 14 men, Sean Delargy was excellent and Paddy McNaughton came into the game. Though Dunloy hit serious bad wides at the end of the half.

Extra time was played when really it was probably to dark to hurl. Dunloy edges ahead against the wind but continued to hit long range wides rather than work the ball. In the second period cushendall missed 4 scoreable free's in a row to possibly win the game (though it was difficult conditions for free taking)

Can't agree about the referee favouring dunloy, I could point to half a dozen decisions against us that where very harsh, as it the way it will always be. I certainly thought 'our ref' deserved a free right at the end of normal time when taken out round the neck so take in the full picture before blaming ref for all your ills
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2011, 08:32:49 AM
While not blaming the ref RM for our defeat in the Ulster League Semi Final I thought he was terrible. How can he justify sending Neil Mc Manus off for alleged verbal abuse? RM was 50 yards away from him at the time and had his back to him. How can he be certain he got the right man? On 2 occasions he had reason to send off a Dunloy man and never did. James Mc Keague struck Odhran Scullion, off the ball, with the stick, the umpire called the referee in and the ref only issued a yellow card. Also Paddy Doherty threw his stick at Paddy Mc Naughton as he chased him, this is also a red card offence according to the rule book. RM seems incapable of just refereeing a match, he always has to be the centre of attention.
   As far as the game goes I thought it was poor enough from both teams, Sean Delargy was superb for Cushendall and Paul Shiels was excellent for Dunloy. We threw it away in the second period of extra time missing 3 frees and 2 65's. I honestly think Pappy and Shane Elliott have a lot to think about. Dunloy only seemed to be missing Paddy Richmond where as Cushendall were without Aaron Graffin, Shane Mc Naughton, Brian Delargy, Aidan Delargy and Declan Mc Killop and they hurled most of the second half without Mc Manus.
On this showing both teams have a lot of improving to do if they want to win the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2011, 08:56:52 AM
Glenariffe will get a handy 2 points this weekend. It'll cost us 300 quid but sure  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2011, 09:06:33 AM
Dont think either team will be reading anything into last nights result, it turned into a lottery in extra time with the bad light. Real inexperience shown from experienced Cushendall players not to take easy scoreable frees when they were on instead of going for a goal which was never on. Thats what lost them the game not RM.

I think its time that some people grew up in here and at our matches. RM turned up to ref the match last night not to favour one side or the other. Watching the game there was hardly a dirty stroke in the game, maybe apart from a woefully late strike from SD on PD early in the game and even then no big fuss was made of it. He did not favour either team, both teams got handy frees at different occasions both teams missed out on frees that on another day they could have got. But genuinely wasnt alot in it either way.


On the sending off, RM was less than 20 yards away, he  pointed directly at NMcM once he heard the abuse as he let play go on up the field (as we are always complaining that refs should do) so who is to say he got it wrong.

Does make it tough for Cushendall now but have no one to blame but themselves, cant be calling an official a cheating b*****d and expect not to have a saction of some sort.

Both teams need a big improvement if they are going to be contenders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2011, 09:31:29 AM
Nag I totally dispute what you are saying. RM was nowhere near Neil at the time of the sending off, he was on the one 45 yard line and Neil was on the other and RM had his back to Neil as he was watching the play in the Dall full back line. There was hardly a dirty stroke in the game? Are you having a laugh? Mc Keague struck Scullion off the ball with the stick. How can the referee give a yellow for this? The umpire told him what happened. Is throwing your stick not a dirty action? According to RM throwing a stick at someone is only a yellow card. I already said I don't blame him for the defeat but I do blame him for refusing to apply the rules of the game. Anyway it was the same for the league game in Dunloy earlier in the year. I was at an U-21 match earlier this year and he called one of our players a "Silly B*****d"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2011, 09:37:14 AM
Think I can see your agenda here JJ interesting way to open your account first two posts.

I watched the incident for myself NMcM was on the Dunloy 45 and Ray was no further than the Mid Field as he pointed at him. Think your missing the point, he was called a cheating b*****d by one the the Cdall players, you dispute who it was then fair enough, well then I think Neil should take it up with the player who it was and not RM. If I was the ref I wouldnt take being called that by anyone would you?

The umpires are experienced enough to know what is a yellow and a red so that was their decision I did not see the incident.

I do agree he talks to much to the players but thats how he likes to referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2011, 10:15:57 AM
Calling a referee a cheating b*****d is wrong. However sending off the wrong man is also wrong. I would have had no argument if he sent off the player that said it but he got it wrong. I hope he will be big enough to admit that. Unless something can be done Neil will miss the quarter final against Glenariffe and he doesn't deserve this at all. As far as the incident with Mc Keague hitting Scullion off the ball goes, there is no grey area here, if you strike someone you should walk simple as that, there is no grey area here. The same with throwing a hurl at another player. If RM is going to apply the rules so rigidly for one team and send people off then why not apply the rules the same way for the other team. Look up the rule book, there is no grey area, striking is a sending off as is throwing a hurl at someone. Which is a more serious offence? Striking with a stick and throwing a hurl or calling someone a b*****d? SD's tackle on PD was late but Skinny got away with a few bad tackles as well. All we are looking for from referees is consistency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Ballycran vs Loughgiel 17/8/11

Venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2011, 10:51:58 AM
Reality is Cdall will beat glenariffe easily (unless it's a Sat evening match as they appear to favour that time  >:() without NMcM and he'll be bursting ready to go in the semis. Is this post just trying to create a backs up against the wall mentality for the next 2 months training? Certainly looks that way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 11, 2011, 11:11:57 AM
TheSkull1im def not trying to create any backs against the wall mentality. Reality is we are in for a battle against Glenarriffe and when the game is in the mix it is usually neil who is our driving force on.

Personally the way I feel RM saw an opportunity to send neil off for what was said in dunloy after RM made a cheeky comment (all be it jokingly), but it isnt that funny to a fella who just got his front tooth broke. One of the first things a referee is there to be is impartial and make sure no serious injuries occur. I dont think he has done either effectively. I gave him the benefit of the doubt though in the first game but thats twice out of two occassions.

On the actual game, the conditions werent perfect but were alright and i thought as a competitive game it was good but both teams will have work to do to win it this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2011, 10:51:58 AM
Reality is Cdall will beat glenariffe easily (unless it's a Sat evening match as they appear to favour that time  >:() without NMcM and he'll be bursting ready to go in the semis. Is this post just trying to create a backs up against the wall mentality for the next 2 months training? Certainly looks that way
#

Skull, what's the craic with your game against Glenariffe?  I take it you want to change it from the Sat evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2011, 10:51:58 AM
Reality is Cdall will beat glenariffe easily (unless it's a Sat evening match as they appear to favour that time  >:() without NMcM and he'll be bursting ready to go in the semis. Is this post just trying to create a backs up against the wall mentality for the next 2 months training? Certainly looks that way
#

Skull, what's the craic with your game against Glenariffe?  I take it you want to change it from the Sat evening?

The craic with the match on Saturday night is dunloy have organised a weekend in Tipp and only approached Glenariffe at the end of last week to get this match rearranged. We have no available times or dates before the cushendall match as we have other plans coming up to the championship. Really Dunloy can blame Glenariffe as much as they like the only people they can blame is their own management for not trying to change it when they booked the weekend away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
The craic is Dunloy arranged this weekend, supposedly to be a fantastic weekend, offered to play Glenarrife the week before or the week after or any midweek night that suited.  They even agreed to play on Sunday evening when Dunly returned home from the weekends training (i would have thought this would have given them the best chance of winning) but despite initially agreeing to this have since renegaged

The match is to be played on Saturday evening now so training weekend off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2011, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2011, 08:56:52 AM
Glenariffe will get a handy 2 points this weekend. It'll cost us 300 quid but sure  >:(

Are youse not fielding?

Edit - Just saw the above post by Max
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
Hopefully Dunloy have learned an important lesson from this. Rearrange any prefixed league games before organising a weekend away. They have no one to blame but themselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
If I was in your position Oisin I wouldnt be poking to much at them if you have to play them on saturday especially when you look at your current predicament and goal difference  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 11, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
If I was in your position Oisin I wouldnt be poking to much at them if you have to play them on saturday especially when you look at your current predicament and goal difference  :D

In fairness for years we capitulated when it came to switching matches, if teams were in a tight spot we would very kindly help them out of it, it used to send the players mental. I can remember us changing games to help out the opposition but it didn't suit our players. We seem to be just doing now what every other team does.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
We are quite aware that we are probably going to go down. We have not been good enough this year. A year away to rebuild will do us no harm it has happened to us before and we came back stronger.

Our main aim is to give cushendall a good run in the championship 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2011, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
We are quite aware that we are probably going to go down. We have not been good enough this year. A year away to rebuild will do us no harm it has happened to us before and we came back stronger.

Our main aim is to give cushendall a good run in the championship

There were two narrow defeats to Ballygalget earlier this year that you would think would have went differently if Tosh had come back a bit earlier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 03:14:19 PM
Its hard to call this saturday coming is the only time this year that we will have every player available. If we had avoided injuries earlier in the year it could have been a different situation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
I think it is bad sportsmanship from Glenariffe to refuse to refix the game away to Dunloy, sure Dunloy rearranged the corresponding fixture a few weeks ago twice at Glenariffe's request. As far as our quarter final against Glenariffe goes it is going to be one hell of a struggle to get out of it without Neil. Shane Mc Naughton's imminent return takes on a new significance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 03:42:01 PM
JJ its not just as simple as that. Do you think Cushendall would change a match to suit another team when it does not suit the majority of your players? I know the answer to that

If we had been given more that a weeks notice we may have been able to rearrange our prior arrangements but as the case is we were give a weeks notice

I am sure this trip had been organised for months.

The match Dunloy rearranged for us was once they rearranged it the second time when they had players unavailable. Dunloy were asked 4 weeks before the fixture was due to take place notice given well in advance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 11, 2011, 04:29:28 PM
JJ throwing the stick rule 5:23 constitutes a yellow card RM is totally correct and fair play he rarely makes mistakes! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
Some amount of ref's on here! Keep the rules coming
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2011, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Ballycran vs Loughgiel 17/8/11

Venue?
I don't know yet. I'd think probably Belfast somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
Sad to hear about the death of Danny McKinley of Carey, died aged 41. He was very good in his prime.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 11, 2011, 04:29:28 PM
JJ throwing the stick rule 5:23 constitutes a yellow card RM is totally correct and fair play he rarely makes mistakes! ;)

Yeah but its easier to come on here and tell others that they know more about the rules than the refs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
The craic is Dunloy arranged this weekend, supposedly to be a fantastic weekend, offered to play Glenarrife the week before or the week after or any midweek night that suited.  They even agreed to play on Sunday evening when Dunly returned home from the weekends training (i would have thought this would have given them the best chance of winning) but despite initially agreeing to this have since renegaged

The match is to be played on Saturday evening now so training weekend off

And after all Dunloy did for Glenariffe last year giving them the points in the last league game of the season  ;D So ungrateful!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2011, 09:42:17 PM
Maninblack he made plenty last night. Just ask the Dunloy folks as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 11, 2011, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
The craic is Dunloy arranged this weekend, supposedly to be a fantastic weekend, offered to play Glenarrife the week before or the week after or any midweek night that suited.  They even agreed to play on Sunday evening when Dunly returned home from the weekends training (i would have thought this would have given them the best chance of winning) but despite initially agreeing to this have since renegaged

The match is to be played on Saturday evening now so training weekend off

And after all Dunloy did for Glenariffe last year giving them the points in the last league game of the season  ;D So ungrateful!!!!

That made me laugh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 11, 2011, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
The craic is Dunloy arranged this weekend, supposedly to be a fantastic weekend, offered to play Glenarrife the week before or the week after or any midweek night that suited.  They even agreed to play on Sunday evening when Dunly returned home from the weekends training (i would have thought this would have given them the best chance of winning) but despite initially agreeing to this have since renegaged

The match is to be played on Saturday evening now so training weekend off

And after all Dunloy did for Glenariffe last year giving them the points in the last league game of the season  ;D So ungrateful!!!!

Thankfully for us the other end of the deal didn't come through even though Tommy did his damnest for Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 11, 2011, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 11, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 11, 2011, 12:31:13 PM
The craic is Dunloy arranged this weekend, supposedly to be a fantastic weekend, offered to play Glenarrife the week before or the week after or any midweek night that suited.  They even agreed to play on Sunday evening when Dunly returned home from the weekends training (i would have thought this would have given them the best chance of winning) but despite initially agreeing to this have since renegaged

The match is to be played on Saturday evening now so training weekend off

And after all Dunloy did for Glenariffe last year giving them the points in the last league game of the season  ;D So ungrateful!!!!

Thankfully for us the other end of the deal didn't come through even though Tommy did his damnest for Ballycastle.

:o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 12, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Is Glenariffe's match with Dunloy going ahead tomorrow or what's the craic? Skull/Maxpower?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 12, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Is Glenariffe's match with Dunloy going ahead tomorrow or what's the craic? Skull/Maxpower?

The club over ruled the players and the management so the match has been canceled.

By All account all the players are not happy that the club agreed to back their decision and then changed it the next night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 12, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Is Glenariffe's match with Dunloy going ahead tomorrow or what's the craic? Skull/Maxpower?

The club over ruled the players and the management to the match has been canceled.

By All account all the players are not happy that the club agreed to back their decision and then changed it the next night

Some things never change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2011, 03:37:49 PM
Could someone please translate what oisiog just said so I/we can understand it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 12, 2011, 03:37:49 PM
Could someone please translate what oisiog just said so I/we can understand it.

Don't want to

The Glenariffe Dunloy match is off.

The players are not happy because the club agreed to back them, and at the final hour decided to agree to Dunloys request
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 12, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Why didn't the players and management just agree to call the match off in the first place? I thought it showed a lack of manners to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2011, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Why didn't the players and management just agree to call the match off in the first place? I thought it showed a lack of manners to be honest.

You seem very vexed by the whole affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Why didn't the players and management just agree to call the match off in the first place? I thought it showed a lack of manners to be honest.

There was alot more to it. By the way Dunloy refused to move you match on wednesday night was that a lack of manners.

JJ as I said before would cushendall call if off to suit another club when it didnt suit your players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 12, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
Just been told that the match is now being played on Sunday evening when Dunloy return from their weekend!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 12, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2011, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Ballycran vs Loughgiel 17/8/11

Venue?
I don't know yet. I'd think probably Belfast somewhere.
Rumour has it in Corrigan park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2011, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 12, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
Just been told that the match is now being played on Sunday evening when Dunloy return from their weekend!

Can we put that down as good or bad manners on the part of Glenariffe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 12, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
Any updates on the Gort na Mona-Ahoghill game? Would expect Gort na Mona to win with something to spare. Have seen Ahoghill a few times this year and they don't look great although my predictions have been shite so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
Could our Glenariffe brethren explain why Sunday evening doesn't suit them? And what does "alot more to it" really mean ???

I need to understand why the management & players didn't want to play Sunday evening even though they'll be meeting a Dunloy team who'll have trained their balls off all weekend and played a tough challenge match the day before fer by that. Is it because you're yella  :P

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070213220222/bttf/images/b/bc/Marty_duel.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
We have players missing on sunday evening why would we want to play a game to suit another club when we would be under strength.

Would Dunloy do it for Cushendall? No you didn't Wednesday night showed that.

The more to it is in house which we need to sort out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 12, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
When did Dunloy book this training weekend & when did they request for the Glenariffe match to be moved?

The fixtures have been out since the start of the year so they only have themselves to blame if they only asked Glenariffe recently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 12, 2011, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 12, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
When did Dunloy book this training weekend & when did they request for the Glenariffe match to be moved?

The fixtures have been out since the start of the year so they only have themselves to blame if they only asked Glenariffe recently

We only got the request on Monday less that a week before the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 12, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
potentially sad news coming from Derry hurling tonight, check out the last page of the Derry Football thread, might be known to people on here


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-14510892
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
Yes just heard, terrible news, RIP Martin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on August 13, 2011, 12:26:29 AM
Gort Na Mona  0-8        3-10 Clooney Gaels 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 12:34:43 AM
Big result for Gaels. PJ back fit i'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 13, 2011, 01:04:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
Yes just heard, terrible news, RIP Martin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 13, 2011, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 12, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
Any updates on the Gort na Mona-Ahoghill game? Would expect Gort na Mona to win with something to spare. Have seen Ahoghill a few times this year and they don't look great although my predictions have been shite so far
:D

Your predictions are a bit like 6 of the last 8 senior finals I've predicted.  :-\

I got the last 2 right though, somewhat of an upward curve I think you'll agree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 13, 2011, 01:48:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 13, 2011, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 12, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
Any updates on the Gort na Mona-Ahoghill game? Would expect Gort na Mona to win with something to spare. Have seen Ahoghill a few times this year and they don't look great although my predictions have been shite so far
:D

Your predictions are a bit like 6 of the last 8 senior finals I've predicted.  :-\

I got the last 2 right though, somewhat of an upward curve I think you'll agree.

:D Fcuk it, I will I will let the rest of you predict the rest of the matches. Good result for Ahoghill. Pretty open championship is the intermediate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 13, 2011, 01:34:40 PM
Poor reflection as always on the County website no mention of the tragic death of Marty Mulholland, maybe fun time Fke is off clocking up more expenses. They should be ashamed of themselves at such a terrible, just highlights again the idiots that are in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2011, 06:39:06 PM
Glenariffe lined out in Dunloy but unfortunately Dunloy were unable or unwilling to field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
Was the referee there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
Was the referee there?

Yep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 13, 2011, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 13, 2011, 01:34:40 PM
Poor reflection as always on the County website no mention of the tragic death of Marty Mulholland, maybe fun time Fke is off clocking up more expenses. They should be ashamed of themselves at such a terrible, just highlights again the idiots that are in charge.
There's an article on it with comment from Jim Murray.

Awful lot of press over this hurling league match. A few things on here should really be dealt with in-house and not posted all over an internet forum - for your own club's sake if nothing else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 13, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
IHC result: St Theresas 4-13-3-9 Armoy. Another very good result for them. Do they stand a chance of winning the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 13, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 13, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
IHC result: St Theresas 4-13-3-9 Armoy. Another very good result for them. Do they stand a chance of winning the championship?

No chance, its the lamhs to lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 13, 2011, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: 4father on August 13, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 13, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
IHC result: St Theresas 4-13-3-9 Armoy. Another very good result for them. Do they stand a chance of winning the championship?

No chance, its the lamhs to lose.

Its hard to see Lamh Dearg not winning it although Tir na Nog will give them a good game tomorrow. With the other QF between Glenarm and Cloughmills, it is hard to see who will win that one. Cloughmills seem to be picking their form up at the right time and I've been hearing Glenarm are struggling to get players up to training etc. If Glenarm can their act together for the match they should win but it will be a very tight match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Said already Lamhs are strong. Whoever wins tomorrow should win the lot, but won't win Ulster!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 13, 2011, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Said already Lamhs are strong. Whoever wins tomorrow should win the lot, but won't win Ulster!!
Who do you fancy in Ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 13, 2011, 11:28:13 PM
No disrespect to Cloughmills, Glenarm or St Teresa's but they don't have much of a chance in my opinion, that really is the crappy end of the draw.

Not surprised at all about the Clooney result, they are a team who have made steady progress and Gort are badly going down hill.  I heard there was a mass exodus from their panel.  Something like 8 put off it for breaching drink bans.  For all their juvenile success, they have been a real let down in hurling and in football.

Lamhs are definitely the team to beat, they've been doing really well in Division 2.  Why wouldn't they be favourites for Ulster MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on August 13, 2011, 11:40:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
Said already Lamhs are strong. Whoever wins tomorrow should win the lot, but won't win Ulster!!

sure to be a good game, can see it going down to the wire, both teams being doin well as of late with solid players. Also, who u fancy for ulster then MR2? Lisbellaw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 14, 2011, 12:10:38 AM
I would say Carrickmore could take any of the Antrim teams in Ulster. The winners from this county usually struggle against them. Also Cuchullains should be hard to beat if they take Armagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
Whoever comes out of Antrim will be favourites. I just feel that the teams in the other counties (Armagh,Derry,Tyrone) have a decent chance, based on games played against Antrim teams recently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 12:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
Whoever comes out of Antrim will be favourites. I just feel that the teams in the other counties (Armagh,Derry,Tyrone) have a decent chance, based on games played against Antrim teams recently
You can't me any more specific then?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on August 14, 2011, 01:13:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 12:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
Whoever comes out of Antrim will be favourites. I just feel that the teams in the other counties (Armagh,Derry,Tyrone) have a decent chance, based on games played against Antrim teams recently
You can't me any more specific then?!
yeah MR2 you fairly altered your stance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 01:58:09 AM
I didn't, I fancy a non Antrim team to win Ulster inter this year. If they do I'm wrong. I just feel they are getting closer at this level. Minder will tell ya how glad they were to beat Keady one year, and the Johnny's only won by two points last year, would have lost had they not stopped a one on one in the last min!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
Would just like to wish Garret Duffy and his umpires all the best today in Croke Park for the minor final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 14, 2011, 10:44:08 AM
Was in Dunloy last night, they were trying to get a team gathered up, saw Cookie there and apparently Damian McMullan and Martin Curry were en route. Mustn't have worked out though.  Bad form from Oisins which has derailed Dunloy's league title chance. They can only look to themselves for being in their current situation. Unsporting and opportunistic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 14, 2011, 11:23:37 AM
Very harsh on St John's!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 14, 2011, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 14, 2011, 10:44:08 AM
Was in Dunloy last night, they were trying to get a team gathered up, saw Cookie there and apparently Damian McMullan and Martin Curry were en route. Mustn't have worked out though.  Bad form from Oisins which has derailed Dunloy's league title chance. They can only look to themselves for being in their current situation. Unsporting and opportunistic.

In the end we agreed to move. It is not our fault dunloy didn't inform the county the
Match was canceled. We only got informed late on Friday evening it was still on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 14, 2011, 12:58:40 PM
Loughgiel 3-27 Portaferry 0-13

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 14, 2011, 01:11:12 PM
What we've got here is a failure to communicate, in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 14, 2011, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 14, 2011, 10:44:08 AM
Was in Dunloy last night, they were trying to get a team gathered up, saw Cookie there and apparently Damian McMullan and Martin Curry were en route. Mustn't have worked out though.  Bad form from Oisins which has derailed Dunloy's league title chance. They can only look to themselves for being in their current situation. Unsporting and opportunistic.

Bad form? Glenariffe agreed to cancel the game, Joe Edwards the fixture secretary then said the game had to be played or both team would be docked a point and get a fine. From what i could see Dunloy had 15 players last night, Damien Mc Mullan was not en route, he was stripped out. Glenariffe would have preferred to play the match to help their points difference. Whatever it was, it wasn't "bad form" from Glenariffe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 14, 2011, 05:14:53 PM
We'll probably never know the right story on this one I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Disappointing the game couldn't be played Sunday, ends Dunloys interest in the league title and is somewhat unfair on St Johns and ballycran.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 14, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Disappointing the game couldn't be played Sunday, ends Dunloys interest in the league title and is somewhat unfair on St Johns and ballycran.

Who do dunloy have to blame in all this they screwed up twice in booking the training weekend then not informing the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Forget about it, not the first game to be called off/not played/conceeded and wont be the last.

Unhappy parties all round and as said i wouldn't be happy if my team was relegated because Glenariffe got 2 handy points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Forget about it, not the first game to be called off/not played/conceeded and wont be the last.

Unhappy parties all round and as said i wouldn't be happy if my team was relegated because Glenariffe got 2 handy points
Glenariffe won't be too unhappy ;)

I personally wouldn't believe a thing Minder has to say on the matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
Don't know the full story, booking the weekend wasn't a mistake this was the only weekend that it could happen and it's not often you get the chance to go down and play a team like de la salle.

And IF we didn't inform the CCC then that has been human error and in a amateur organisation mistakes happen.

Quote from: oisinog on August 14, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Disappointing the game couldn't be played Sunday, ends Dunloys interest in the league title and is somewhat unfair on St Johns and ballycran.




Who do dunloy have to blame in all this they screwed up twice in booking the training weekend then not informing the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Forget about it, not the first game to be called off/not played/conceeded and wont be the last.

Unhappy parties all round and as said i wouldn't be happy if my team was relegated because Glenariffe got 2 handy points
Glenariffe won't be too unhappy ;)

I personally wouldn't believe a thing Minder has to say on the matter.

They are coming out of it with 2 points, so happy on that end of things, if that keeps them up or not is another thing.

Is that their last game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 14, 2011, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Forget about it, not the first game to be called off/not played/conceeded and wont be the last.

Unhappy parties all round and as said i wouldn't be happy if my team was relegated because Glenariffe got 2 handy points
Glenariffe won't be too unhappy ;)

I personally wouldn't believe a thing Minder has to say on the matter.

They are coming out of it with 2 points, so happy on that end of things, if that keeps them up or not is another thing.

Is that their last game?

Yea it was our last game need a few favours to stay up as the rest of teams have at least one left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 08:53:22 PM
Can't see it. Johnnies have home game against Ballycran. See ya's next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 14, 2011, 08:54:28 PM
Cloughmills won by 9 points. They're starting to warm up at the right time of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 09:30:09 PM
Any result in from Casement yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 14, 2011, 10:11:16 PM
Shane O Neills   0-5   0-14   Cloughmills
Creggan   3-16   0-10   Cushendun   
St Agnes   2-10   2-18   All Saints
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 14, 2011, 10:14:37 PM
South West Antrim beginning to sneak up on Belfast hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
That's a good result for Creggan. They'll maybe be strong contenders for junior championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2011, 11:01:03 PM
Lamhs beat Tir na og, it's theirs to lose

South West Antrim have great hurlers and at Junior level they should be cleaning up, can't see them dominating Intermediate or making a impact at senior any day soon 4father
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 14, 2011, 11:17:28 PM
I agree MR2 but there's no doubting that they have made steady progress.  I think tir na nog and possibly clooney could win an intermediate in the next 5 years.

We all know that there's no chance breakthrough into senior.  I suppose its probably a mix of south west clubs in that area putting more of an effort in and the demise of a lot of hurling clubs at intermediate and below level in Belfast.

Would Cloughmills be regarded as South West?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 15, 2011, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: 4father on August 14, 2011, 11:17:28 PM

Would Cloughmills be regarded as South West?

North Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 15, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 14, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
That's a good result for Creggan. They'll maybe be strong contenders for junior championship.

There is talk that Cushendun won't have a senior team next year, sad when you think they were in a senior final 10 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 15, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 08:19:23 PM
Don't know the full story, booking the weekend wasn't a mistake this was the only weekend that it could happen and it's not often you get the chance to go down and play a team like de la salle.

And IF we didn't inform the CCC then that has been human error and in a amateur organisation mistakes happen.

Quote from: oisinog on August 14, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 14, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Disappointing the game couldn't be played Sunday, ends Dunloys interest in the league title and is somewhat unfair on St Johns and ballycran.



Who do dunloy have to blame in all this they screwed up twice in booking the training weekend then not informing the county


I don't think Dunloy will be too concerned if they loose the 2 points.  What's another league title against a bonding weekend and challenge game against quality opposition in the lead up to the business end of the season? While it would be nice to win I don't think Dunloy, Loughgiel or Cushendall are overly bothered about the league. The down side from the overall league perspective is how it will effect the relegation battle !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 15, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Heard that St. Enda's beat Loughgiel in the N. Antrim U14 Final in Dunloy over the weekend.  Great result for the club and validates their decision to pull out of S. Belfast competitions and into N. Antrim.  With their footballers winning plenty in SW competitions they must find a way to bring all this talent through to Senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2011, 02:27:39 PM
Great for St Endas but, and I've already said this to Last man, if their seniors continue to play in div 4 then will not be competitive when those kids come through. The current team needs to get up to div 2 in the next 4 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 15, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2011, 02:27:39 PM
Great for St Endas but, and I've already said this to Last man, if their seniors continue to play in div 4 then will not be competitive when those kids come through. The current team needs to get up to div 2 in the next 4 years
. Totally agree MR, we have kids being coached the skills and how the game should be played and seniors who were only ever coached the skills and expected to develop a hurling brain by osmosis or something. Its a massive problem for us but one I'm convinced we will overcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2011, 06:46:57 PM
Who was the referee of that u14 match?     ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 15, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
Are you suggesting a conspiracy between us and a Dunloy referee Seamroga?? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2011, 10:27:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 15, 2011, 09:42:21 PM
Are you suggesting a conspiracy between us and a Dunloy referee Seamroga?? ;D
Never would I suggest such a thing!   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 12, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2011, 05:59:58 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 11, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Ballycran vs Loughgiel 17/8/11

Venue?
I don't know yet. I'd think probably Belfast somewhere.
Rumour has it in Corrigan park.
St Pauls, Shaws Rd.  7pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 16, 2011, 04:00:38 AM
Just read on the Cushendall website that a ban on playing home games has been imposed on them for what happened at the Ballycastle minor game. I assume Ballycastle has got the same punishment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2011, 08:32:46 AM
Was the Ballycastle/Cushendall game at a neutral venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 16, 2011, 09:55:03 AM
The Ballycastle V Cushendall game was in Ballycastle. Totally over the top punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 10:06:15 AM
So what punishment you suggest JJ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 10:10:31 AM
Seems to be the norm of late. We also have a ban, championship games are played away from home anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 16, 2011, 11:34:33 AM
its does seem to be the norm at the minute, but im sure there are other ways.

15+ Rossa kids who im sure where looking forward to a game in Cushendall last night have also been punished now!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 11:39:10 AM
We had two games fixed at the pitch one night that meant 60 plus hurling players missed out, that was down to a football match played Against Cargin!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 16, 2011, 11:51:21 AM
Lets hear some alternative punishment suggestions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 12:04:30 PM
Does anyonw know if Ballycastle got the same punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2011, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 16, 2011, 11:34:33 AM
its does seem to be the norm at the minute, but im sure there are other ways.

15+ Rossa kids who im sure where looking forward to a game in Cushendall last night have also been punished now!!!!!!!!

Can the game not be fixed at an alternative venue ? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
Punish the team involved not the other players/teams. We have 3 senior football teams 2 senior hurling plus two divisional teams all punished over one team. hardly fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
Punish the team involved not the other players/teams. We have 3 senior football teams 2 senior hurling plus two divisional teams all punished over one team. hardly fair

On top of that you have a problem with what pitch the match will be on. Does that mean that cushendall will play the remainder of their home games in Glenariffe or Cushendun.

Who then picks up the extra costs for the clubs involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
The club is punished as a whole, because simply it is the clubs responsibility to ensure that their teams maintain discipline.

I would imagnie the mood that Glenariffe are in regarding their North Antrim neighbours Cushendall will be heading round the coast to the 'Dun to complete their fixtures.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
The club is punished as a whole, because simply it is the clubs responsibility to ensure that their teams maintain discipline.

I would imagnie the mood that Glenariffe are in regarding their North Antrim neighbours Cushendall will be heading round the coast to the 'Dun to complete their fixtures.  ;)

Or up the glen to Glenravel ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 16, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
Punish the team involved not the other players/teams. We have 3 senior football teams 2 senior hurling plus two divisional teams all punished over one team. hardly fair

On top of that you have a problem with what pitch the match will be on. Does that mean that cushendall will play the remainder of their home games in Glenariffe or Cushendun.

Who then picks up the extra costs for the clubs involved?

What extra costs are involved  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 16, 2011, 01:23:18 PM
I don't see many teams giving up their pitches to us for free!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
That's bullsh1te NAG, we can't police all our teams. We issued codes of conduct and hope that it's adhered to, if two players out of 80 players step out of line it seems unfair on the others.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 01:26:59 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 16, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
Punish the team involved not the other players/teams. We have 3 senior football teams 2 senior hurling plus two divisional teams all punished over one team. hardly fair

On top of that you have a problem with what pitch the match will be on. Does that mean that cushendall will play the remainder of their home games in Glenariffe or Cushendun.

Who then picks up the extra costs for the clubs involved?

What extra costs are involved  ???

There will be extra heating costs or electric costs on a club. Its not major but with most clubs struggling to pay fees and their own bills it is not fair on the club hosting the game.

Our relationship with Cushendall is very good it always has been. We would be happy let them use our ground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 16, 2011, 01:32:52 PM
Are cushendall not paying the running costs of your minors  :-\

Surely things like running costs work themselves out over a gentlemans conversation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 01:36:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 16, 2011, 01:32:52 PM
Are cushendall not paying the running costs of your minors  :-\

Surely thinks like running costs work themselves out over a gentlemans conversation?

I'm not refering to just us there have been several examples of this in the county in the last month. I am trying to point out it does not just involve the club whe were punished.

Some of our minors are playing for cushendall this year because we dont have a minor team. If it was vice versa we would be happy to support cushendall. As I mentioned earlier thats down to a good relationship within the clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
That's bullsh1te NAG, we can't police all our teams. We issued codes of conduct and hope that it's adhered to, if two players out of 80 players step out of line it seems unfair on the others.

How else do you police it then?
Every team look after themselves independently? Oh it wasnt us it was our junior b footballers that assaulted a ref or had a riot.
The buck stops with the club and the way to encourage good discipline within these clubs is to have tough punishment for those that step out of line. Peer pressure is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 16, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 15, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 14, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
That's a good result for Creggan. They'll maybe be strong contenders for junior championship.

There is talk that Cushendun won't have a senior team next year, sad when you think they were in a senior final 10 years ago.
Any of the "old guard" still about i.e. Aidan Mort, Rab Laverty, the McSparrans, Conleth Magee etc? Had some good players back in the day but all those boys would be 36-38 now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 16, 2011, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 16, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 15, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 14, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
That's a good result for Creggan. They'll maybe be strong contenders for junior championship.

There is talk that Cushendun won't have a senior team next year, sad when you think they were in a senior final 10 years ago.
Any of the "old guard" still about i.e. Aidan Mort, Rab Laverty, the McSparrans, Conleth Magee etc? Had some good players back in the day but all those boys would be 36-38 now.

Brendan McSparran was playing this year but I doubt he'll be playing much next year with a new kid on the way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 16, 2011, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
That's bullsh1te NAG, we can't police all our teams. We issued codes of conduct and hope that it's adhered to, if two players out of 80 players step out of line it seems unfair on the others.

How else do you police it then?
Every team look after themselves independently? Oh it wasnt us it was our junior b footballers that assaulted a ref or had a riot.
The buck stops with the club and the way to encourage good discipline within these clubs is to have tough punishment for those that step out of line. Peer pressure is a wonderful thing.
I agree with NAG, we all know the rockets in our clubs that need held on a tight rein and who shouldn't be on the pitch side of the fence. Members/supporters not involved with a team is a different matter and harder to control but clubs should heavily sanction those who mis behave.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 03:59:13 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 16, 2011, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
That's bullsh1te NAG, we can't police all our teams. We issued codes of conduct and hope that it's adhered to, if two players out of 80 players step out of line it seems unfair on the others.

How else do you police it then?
Every team look after themselves independently? Oh it wasnt us it was our junior b footballers that assaulted a ref or had a riot.
The buck stops with the club and the way to encourage good discipline within these clubs is to have tough punishment for those that step out of line. Peer pressure is a wonderful thing.
I agree with NAG, we all know the rockets in our clubs that need held on a tight rein and who shouldn't be on the pitch side of the fence. Members/supporters not involved with a team is a different matter and harder to control but clubs should heavily sanction those who mis behave.

With what happened in the Cushendall - Ballycastle match is a hard one. Supporters came on to the pitch these people may or may not be members of the two clubs.

There must be more to this than we think is there anyone from Cushendall who can shed some light into why this ban has been imposed because we are making a lot of assumptions on this. Cushendall may have refused to name who was involved and that could be the problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 16, 2011, 04:02:48 PM
If they refused to name names the whole club would be suspended and not just home matches confiscated. The Chairman, and officers of the club would also face individual suspensions so I doubt that this is the case.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Was the case in our club, two players give the referee abuse after the match, trust me, myself and others have tried to get the names but can't, even asked for a description from the referee to get these lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 06:16:14 PM
Because they all called him a cheating cnut!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 16, 2011, 06:31:09 PM
I think that those supporters involved in the trouble at the Ballycastle V Cushendall match should be punished as individuals. To ban home matches has hit hundreds of under age and senior players in hurling and camogie. We are supposed to be promoting our national games and we have now been prevented from doing this. Why should kids suffer because of the actions of adult supporters? I remember back in the early 90's when Cushendall beat Ballycastle in 2 ill tempered county finals we were forced to play all senior matches against Ballycastle at neutral venues for 2 years. Maybe all Cushendall V Ballycastle minor matches should be played at neutral venues for say 2 or 3 years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 07:16:06 PM
Jj there must be something more in this. It does appear harsh for what happened in that match. It was also nearly 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
The people involved have been named to the CCC as far as I know. I don't think this ban will be in place long. Neil's suspension will be overturned next wk, but what happens to Karl is all over the place. Waiting for an Ulster meeting next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
The people involved have been named to the CCC as far as I know. I don't think this ban will be in place long. Neil's suspension will be overturned next wk, but what happens to Karl is all over the place. Waiting for an Ulster meeting next week.

Well if Karl said it then he'd have no problem taking the suspension that comes with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 16, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
As its mistaken identity (which is wasn't) Karl will not be suspended a referee cant include this in his match report 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 16, 2011, 08:49:51 PM
Ah Jesus lads, do I have to come on here every time and explain the rules? RM has had loads of experience in doing this, Karl will be gassed! The pitch Closure is straight forward the Dall didn't fckn name the lads for obvious reasons I am reliability told, i.e. 9 to 5 if you know what I mean and the lads in the Dall know it. The Town played it cute as always, so in short if the Dall can't name them due to 9 to 5 then take it on the chin and focus on the Championship.

Whose going to Ref the County Final this year lads! MR whats your opinion final being Dunloy v Shamrocks IMO, its highly valued as always ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
Well unless we get to the final ::) it will be Garret again, Cushendall might not be happy at that considering they still feel agrieved at some of the decisions that they feel went against them. Or maybe the county could give it to and who I like McAuley (i think thats his name) quite and gets on with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Do you mean because of their jobs MIBG? They have been named. Surely rays actions should be highly questioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Do you mean because of their jobs MIBG? They have been named. Surely rays actions should be highly questioned.

What? Making a mistake? someone calls you a cheating cnut and you turn round and book the player who you think said it, or has he done something else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2011, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: gelvis on August 16, 2011, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 16, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 15, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 14, 2011, 10:25:06 PM
That's a good result for Creggan. They'll maybe be strong contenders for junior championship.

There is talk that Cushendun won't have a senior team next year, sad when you think they were in a senior final 10 years ago.
Any of the "old guard" still about i.e. Aidan Mort, Rab Laverty, the McSparrans, Conleth Magee etc? Had some good players back in the day but all those boys would be 36-38 now.

Brendan McSparran was playing this year but I doubt he'll be playing much next year with a new kid on the way

Bloody hell, the next generation of Harry Hills to frequent the Bot.

Only joking bubbles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Do you mean because of their jobs MIBG? They have been named. Surely rays actions should be highly questioned.

What? Making a mistake? someone calls you a cheating cnut and you turn round and book the player who you think said it, or has he done something else?

A bit more yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 08:28:18 AM
The truth shall set them free.

If C'Dall and the town want to play games with the county committee then this is a saction they will have to accept.
No point whinging about it.

On the NMcM suspension, if someone else admits to it, then they serve the time, dont think there is anything more to it than that. Pretty simple.

How does this ban on home matches affect the town's early morning training regime?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:16:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 08:28:18 AM
The truth shall set them free.

If C'Dall and the town want to play games with the county committee then this is a saction they will have to accept.
No point whinging about it.

On the NMcM suspension, if someone else admits to it, then they serve the time, dont think there is anything more to it than that. Pretty simple.

How does this ban on home matches affect the town's early morning training regime?  ;)

NAG1 no disrespect but you have no idea what is going on so can make prejudgments. We have not tried to play games with the CCC. And on the suspensions, I won't even comment on the conduct of certain individuals, trust me it has been far from simple as posts in the last week have discussed who was responsible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.

The people have been named.

I have no chip on the shoulder about Ray, he knowingly put Neil in for verbal abuse when he knew it wasn't him. I am not going to go on about what Ray said and done on the night of the game, and in the days after the game as it is not going to do us any help by putting that on a public forum.

Don't come on here with your high and mighty's (accusing my club and I of having a 'chip on the shoulder' if you have no idea what has happened over the last week. Some of what has went on has been ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:57:54 AM
I wasnt acusing your club I was saying you personally had chip on your shoulder about RM. I was at the game and saw the incident and also have been around long enough to know that this is nothing to do with personalities or some sense of revenge. As you have said doesnt do any one any favours by complaining about it on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 17, 2011, 10:10:06 AM
Though it has got me extremely curious as to what has went on over the last week or so!!!!

Understand best not to go into detail on a public forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 10:13:44 AM
MIBAG was on the money re: reasons why

But max you are correct not the best place for it on here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.

The people have been named.

I have no chip on the shoulder about Ray, he knowingly put Neil in for verbal abuse when he knew it wasn't him. I am not going to go on about what Ray said and done on the night of the game, and in the days after the game as it is not going to do us any help by putting that on a public forum.


Colonel everyone at the game knows who it was and Ray was correct in his decision. Neil got frustrated during the game because he was not playing well and lashed out it was a moment of madness from a player normally so calm. I was really surprised when I heard him say it as I know Neil very well and it was not like him.

If Ray has changed his mind then so be it he now thinks its a mistake and he is a big man for admitting he may have made a mistake and no one can hold that against him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 17, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.

The people have been named.

I have no chip on the shoulder about Ray, he knowingly put Neil in for verbal abuse when he knew it wasn't him. I am not going to go on about what Ray said and done on the night of the game, and in the days after the game as it is not going to do us any help by putting that on a public forum.


Colonel everyone at the game knows who it was and Ray was correct in his decision. Neil got frustrated during the game because he was not playing well and lashed out it was a moment of madness from a player normally so calm. I was really surprised when I heard him say it as I know Neil very well and it was not like him.

If Ray has changed his mind then so be it he now thinks its a mistake and he is a big man for admitting he may have made a mistake and no one can hold that against him

Surely if Ray was so correct in the first place, like you and 'everyone at the game' knows, then surely there would be no grounds for him to have made a mistake?  If he was so sure in the first place, which I feel he would have to have been in order to issue a straight red card, then why would he back pedal now?  Like you said, he was 100% correct.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
Why would Karl be getting suspended then if it was Neil who said it?? Sounds strange Oisin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 17, 2011, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 17, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.

The people have been named.

I have no chip on the shoulder about Ray, he knowingly put Neil in for verbal abuse when he knew it wasn't him. I am not going to go on about what Ray said and done on the night of the game, and in the days after the game as it is not going to do us any help by putting that on a public forum.


Colonel everyone at the game knows who it was and Ray was correct in his decision. Neil got frustrated during the game because he was not playing well and lashed out it was a moment of madness from a player normally so calm. I was really surprised when I heard him say it as I know Neil very well and it was not like him.

If Ray has changed his mind then so be it he now thinks its a mistake and he is a big man for admitting he may have made a mistake and no one can hold that against him

Surely if Ray was so correct in the first place, like you and 'everyone at the game' knows, then surely there would be no grounds for him to have made a mistake?  If he was so sure in the first place, which I feel he would have to have been in order to issue a straight red card, then why would he back pedal now?  Like you said, he was 100% correct.  ::)

Yeah, I was confused by Oisinog's last post.  Everyone at the game knew it was Neil yet RM is admitting he made a mistake ?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 10:45:41 AM
My point on it was that Ray was very close to NmcM and followed the ball pointing at him as if to say I heard that and will be back, which he was. Now if Cushendall are saying that it wasnt NmcM then they would have to say who it was and therefore that person would be liable for suspension. Thats how I see it anyway, no big conspiracy to that.

Think Oisinog has this wooden spoon out for the nieghbours  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:47:24 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 17, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:24:08 AM
Colonel, no disrespect either but its quite simple, your pitch wouldnt be closed if the individuals involved had been put forward for suspension by the club. The individuals would have taken the bans and not the club.
If the club prefer to have their pitch closed and not the name then thats their decision.

Serious persecution complex going on down there about RM, as I have stated before having watched alot of his games. He is pretty fair across the board and generally as with most referees county players get the benefit of the doubt most of the time. So maybe time to look at the chip on the shoulder.

The people have been named.

I have no chip on the shoulder about Ray, he knowingly put Neil in for verbal abuse when he knew it wasn't him. I am not going to go on about what Ray said and done on the night of the game, and in the days after the game as it is not going to do us any help by putting that on a public forum.


Colonel everyone at the game knows who it was and Ray was correct in his decision. Neil got frustrated during the game because he was not playing well and lashed out it was a moment of madness from a player normally so calm. I was really surprised when I heard him say it as I know Neil very well and it was not like him.

If Ray has changed his mind then so be it he now thinks its a mistake and he is a big man for admitting he may have made a mistake and no one can hold that against him

Surely if Ray was so correct in the first place, like you and 'everyone at the game' knows, then surely there would be no grounds for him to have made a mistake?  If he was so sure in the first place, which I feel he would have to have been in order to issue a straight red card, then why would he back pedal now?  Like you said, he was 100% correct.  ::)

He was 100% correct its only speculation that Neil is going to get off. We all know that sometimes managers have a wee word in a referees ear which can get a player off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2011, 10:53:40 AM
But why would Karl accept a possible suspension if he didn't say it & has admitted to saying it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2011, 10:53:40 AM
But why would Karl accept a possible suspension if he didn't say it & has admitted to saying it?

Because he cant be suspended. Under the rules a player cant be suspended due to mistaken identity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2011, 10:58:37 AM
Surely Cushendall would be able to beat Glenariffe without NMcM. (no offence Minder and the rest)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 17, 2011, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2011, 10:58:37 AM
Surely Cushendall would be able to beat Glenariffe without NMcM. (no offence Minder and the rest)

They probably would win, but it won't be plain sailing from what I've witnessed over recent weeks.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Do you honestly think Karl would admit to something he didnt say at the possibility of missing 2 championship games. this would be because his suspension would only start after the meeting when this is resolved.

So for people to say 'everybody knew it was Neil' is just simply wrong. I know 100% FACT that it wasn't Neil. You can take that as Gospel. I am telling you it definitely wasn't Neil. Sure RM will get him in the long run. Just because he was wrong this time will just make it even worse.   

I believe 'if' there is bias against cdall from certain referees then it is only cushendalls fault for complaining at them so much. Players and managers over the past few years. Time for them to just get on with it again and shut their mouths, the way it should be. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
Well said Ruari

However the plot does thicken again, Karl didnt say it NmcM didnt say it narrowing down the suspects now  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 09:57:54 AM
I wasnt acusing your club I was saying you personally had chip on your shoulder about RM. I was at the game and saw the incident and also have been around long enough to know that this is nothing to do with personalities or some sense of revenge. As you have said doesnt do any one any favours by complaining about it on here.

I know Ray well and get on with him, I only have problems with his behaviour on this occasion. I told MR the sequence of event, ask him does it seem like I have a complex about Ray. All I ask is the Referee is impartial and on this one occasion I don't believe he did. Either way Karl will miss the quarter final and potentially a semi if we get there. If Ray acted correctly then Karl would be missing the quarter and might have been ok for a possible semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 11:36:50 AM
Who from our club said it wasnt Karl. If we were gonna 'enforce' someone to falsely admit it then we'd hardly ask Karl to take the rap. NAG your at your work. I wonder who we could possibly play in a semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
No one seems to relaise is that no one gets suspended if the red card is resinded.

I like the way people are saying Neil didnt say it as he did and that has been admitted within Cushendall.

The reason for someone else to come forward means no one can be suspended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 11:41:45 AM
Quote from: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Do you honestly think Karl would admit to something he didnt say at the possibility of missing 2 championship games. this would be because his suspension would only start after the meeting when this is resolved.

So for people to say 'everybody knew it was Neil' is just simply wrong. I know 100% FACT that it wasn't Neil. You can take that as Gospel. I am telling you it definitely wasn't Neil. Sure RM will get him in the long run. Just because he was wrong this time will just make it even worse.   

I believe 'if' there is bias against cdall from certain referees then it is only cushendalls fault for complaining at them so much. Players and managers over the past few years. Time for them to just get on with it again and shut their mouths, the way it should be.

Little odds to me Colonel in all seriousness, my point was literally on RM being accused of being biased against Cdall when this wasnt the case, I merely pointed out what I saw, I never heard who said nor did I claim to. If he was wrong on who said it then I am sure it will be resolved either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2011, 11:47:30 AM
Just like our match fixture woes with Glenariffe, the waters have been muddied to the point that everyone is at fault yet somehow no one is to blame 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Some one verbally abused the ref - someone got sent off - cdall dispute who said it - cdall will appeal on mistaken identity - county will investigate

Is that not it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
Quote from: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 11:39:43 AM
No one seems to relaise is that no one gets suspended if the red card is resinded.

I like the way people are saying Neil didnt say it as he did and that has been admitted within Cushendall.

The reason for someone else to come forward means no one can be suspended
Anyone I have spoken to in Cushendall knows it wasn't Neil. And all the posters on here from Cushendall have said it was some-one else

Whenever Neil was given the Red Card why did he race up & say to Ray ' it wasn't me' ...he hardly thought in the heat of the moment ' here I'll say it wasn't me,I'll get some- one to take the rap..they'll not get suspended either. happy days!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
Oisinog I would be intrigued to find out who said it was neil said it. It is common knowledge that it wasnt Neil, and as I previously stated I am 100 % certain that it wasnt.

Quit trying to wind up shit which simply isnt true.

theskull1 i have not muddied any water if that is aimed at me. I have never said that it wasnt Karl. I asked why he would admit to it if it wasnt. Means he risks suspension for 2 games. With all the abuse that is happening to referees throughout the country i think the council will not be letting this one slide. Although the referee got the wrong person, the comment was still said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 11:55:16 AM
Ruairi never said Karl didn't admit it- he said why would he admit it if he didn't say it. Can you not read?

I have never accused Ray of being biased, nor to my knowledge has any clubmate here (open to correction). I have said I do think he acted inappropriately/ incorrectly on this occasion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2011, 12:00:04 PM
Just so you know ....My post was in reference to the whole discussion..not specific to one post/poster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 17, 2011, 12:02:50 PM
So, just to clear it up, Neil said it, right ?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 17, 2011, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 11:51:16 AM
Some one verbally abused the ref - someone got sent off - cdall dispute who said it - cdall will appeal on mistaken identity - county will investigate

Is that not it?

Ulster game, so discipline is dealt with by Ulster CCC - probably means longer delays than had it been dealt with by Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
Oisinog I would be intrigued to find out who said it was neil said it. It is common knowledge that it wasnt Neil, and as I previously stated I am 100 % certain that it wasnt.

Quit trying to wind up shit which simply isnt true.


I have spoken to several people that includes family who agree it was Neil who said it. Again I have nothing against Neil I consider him a mate and I'm sure he would say the same about me.

I would be interested to know where you were around the pitch that night as it happend just in front of me.

At the end of the Day it does not matter to me if Neil gets off or not if Karl admits to saying it he is not risking suspension as I have said several times on one can be suspended if a red card is over ruled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
I think we shouldn't really be at it here in fairness, let the CB deal with what comes from it and let it be. Our club have been "dealt harshly" (depends on your views) over the years and at the end of the day the CB is not for changing their minds on a lot of things, with referees being abused and attacked lately this will only get worse and i expect at the start of the season when the referees get together for their pre season training this will be dealt with at length.

Expect a lot of sending off's from now on in if players mouth back to the referee, only other option will be no games as the referees will refuse to do the games, it's not as if it will affect their wages ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:12:14 PM
Minder - got a giggle from me

the skull1 - my mistake then

Hardstation - Well sure RM heard someone say it and saw his opportunity from the league game. Thats the way i see it. Wouldnt be fair for Neil to pick up a suspension for that. 

Oisinog - I was on the pitch closer to the comment than RM was. Believe me it wasn't Neil and I dont believe you were talking to anyone reliable as i have stated before, i am certain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2011, 12:17:12 PM
Oisin Og. Biggest load of pish I ever heard on here. Wind yer neck in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:17:47 PM
You can trust me I was speaking to people from Cushendall

At the end of the day It appears Ray is doing Cushendall a favour if he is admitting mistaken Identity so I dont understand that cushendall have a problem with him.

That me done we will agree to disagre. If Neil gets off so be it we are execting Neil to be involved anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
Oisinog I would expect one of the 2 suspended. personally i would prefer neil missing for 1 game as opposed to karl missing 2. We will get it tough against you's, but depends how the team deal with this setback. Could possibily work in our favour and make the other players more determined.

The people who you were speaking to were either misinformed or just trying to wind you up then. We will definitely be agreeing to disagree on this subject. I heard it with my own ears from a very short distance and was speaking to the people involved at the end of normal time. both had exactly described what i heard being said by who i heard saying it.

Believe me Ray will be doing no favours to us. Lets just wait and see how this one pans out.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:32:30 PM
Ruairi if the red card is over ruled then no one gets suspended.

This is why someone was willing to come forward and say it was me because they know they cant be suspended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
Oisinog I would expect one of the 2 suspended. personally i would prefer neil missing for 1 game as opposed to karl missing 2. We will get it tough against you's, but depends how the team deal with this setback. Could possibily work in our favour and make the other players more determined.

The people who you were speaking to were either misinformed or just trying to wind you up then. We will definitely be agreeing to disagree on this subject. I heard it with my own ears from a very short distance and was speaking to the people involved at the end of normal time. both had exactly described what i heard being said by who i heard saying it.

Believe me Ray will be doing no favours to us. Lets just wait and see how this one pans out.   
Well said. Let's leave it for the Ulster Council to sort out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:39:05 PM
Oisinog i believe that wont be the end of it. The comment was said and apparently RM knows who said it now. With all what is happening throughout the country, the ccc will prob want to stand behind the referees and give them their backing. I would think the suspension will be transferred but i would prefer it it stood for reasons mentioned earlier. Although its infair to Neil, it is better for our team if we get through the first game.

We will just have to wait and see how it all works out. Time will tell.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:45:16 PM
I dont think it will be the end of it either.

It would mean a rule change within the GAA in relation to suspension. As Ray didnt send the other person off he cant make mention to it in his match report. As far as I am aware he can make an addition that there was possible mistaken Identity which would overrule the sending off. If he was to add a name to it there would be questions to where this information came from and why was he not sent off in the first place
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
I am obviously not sure what RM has in his report. I have my own opinion why Neil was sent off but RM also must have had a suspicion it was neil as he is obviously aware of the rules, but this time was mistaken.

Either way it isnt going to be swept under the carpet. i will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
I am obviously not sure what RM has in his report. I have my own opinion why Neil was sent off but RM also must have had a suspicion it was neil as he is obviously aware of the rules, but this time was mistaken.

Either way it isnt going to be swept under the carpet. i will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.   

I know the GAA is running a respect campaign and it appears refs have taken a more stricter stance at verbal abuse and to be honest its about time. We have had a big problem with it still do at times. I think a high profile sending off because of this is needed at the the min the most high profile hurler in antrim in Neil.

The CCC may recemmond a club suspension but the cant apply, There may be rule changes coming
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 01:10:23 PM
you are right about taking a hardline stance on verbal abuse but im not sure Neil will be overly happy at being suspended for not even saying a word. if it is only a short suspension then I wouldnt mind (from a cdall point of view). however, I do know that Neil will be very annoyed if that is the outcome.

A club suspension would be even more harsh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 01:25:06 PM
Sorry I meant an internal suspension not a full club suspension

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
oisinog, you have posted the biggest pile of rubbish I have ever heard. If you knew anything at all RM was told by one of his linesmen EH, that he had made a mistake and that it was Karl who said it. RM then put an amendment to his referees report stating that he was wrong about sending off Neil and that he now knows it was Karl. The likely outcome is that Neil's red card will be rescinded however this talk that Karl can't get suspended is a load of rubbish and as far as I am aware he will get banned. For how long is up to the Ulster Council. On a side note, oisinog you said Neil lashed out due to frustration due to him playing badly. Neil had scored 1-4 in the match, hardly playing badly. I'm sure you'd be happy if any of your forwards scored 1-4 in the championship quarter final however I don't think there is much chance of that. Keep your rubbish off this discussion board. Glenariffe might be able to weasel their way out of relegation but there'll be no avoiding the stuffing you so richly deserve in the quarter final!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 17, 2011, 02:09:56 PM
Didn't take long for the mask to slip.

JJ - Maybe you should go back to the Hoganstand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
Minder, what is wrong with what I have said? oisinog has posted a pile of rubbish. Glenariffe's actions relating to the league match in Dunloy won't have found them much favour around the county, or indeed on the ards penninsula. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking forward to the championship quarter final. Minder I haven't peddled any lies but oisinog has.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
Minder, what is wrong with what I have said? oisinog has posted a pile of rubbish. Glenariffe's actions relating to the league match in Dunloy won't have found them much favour around the county, or indeed on the ards penninsula. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking forward to the championship quarter final. Minder I haven't peddled any lies but oisinog has.

Poor Jesusjones has an issue with anyone else who has a comment to make. For your own information players from your own preisous team though it was Neil.

For your information I was refer to Neil having a poor game by his usual standards. He is his own biggest critic.

We are not going back to the Dunloy incident but at the end of the day we didnt do anything wrong by refusing to move a match when it would have been a disadvantage to us.

For your own information Cushendall approached Dunloy to move this said Ulster League game and refused as it didnt suit them. I have't herd you critise that decision.

Now please leave a discussion you had no part in earlier that is now over and done.

Also go read up on the rules of the GAA and come back with the rule about the suspension 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on August 17, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: ruairi on August 17, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
I am obviously not sure what RM has in his report. I have my own opinion why Neil was sent off but RM also must have had a suspicion it was neil as he is obviously aware of the rules, but this time was mistaken.

Either way it isnt going to be swept under the carpet. i will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.   

I know the GAA is running a respect campaign and it appears refs have taken a more stricter stance at verbal abuse and to be honest its about time. We have had a big problem with it still do at times. I think a high profile sending off because of this is needed at the the min the most high profile hurler in antrim in Neil.

The CCC may recemmond a club suspension but the cant apply, There may be rule changes coming
Think about the logic of what you are saying, Refs are being stricter on verbal abuse, would suggest that its ok depending on the level of abuse. Why should referees give up their time to facilitate games if they have to listen to abuse. No level of abuse should be tolerated by anyone...this is sport.

If the ref in this instance has reported a player for verbal abuse and not mitigated by saying he may have been mistaken then all the arguments here over who said what are irrelevant as the Ulster Council will use the referees report. The Ulster CCC meets once per month and decisions are made then and notice issued, as I understand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 17, 2011, 03:31:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 02:37:24 PM
Minder, what is wrong with what I have said? oisinog has posted a pile of rubbish. Glenariffe's actions relating to the league match in Dunloy won't have found them much favour around the county, or indeed on the ards penninsula. I'm sure there are plenty of people looking forward to the championship quarter final. Minder I haven't peddled any lies but oisinog has.

What part of what happened between Glenariffe and Dunloy last week do you and others not understand, or perhaps don't want to understand? I have already posted the other day what happened, nobody has disputed that. Glenariffe agreed to cancel the game but both teams were ordered to play it by the fixtures secretary Joe Edwards or face a deduction of a point and fine. Dunloy decided to go ahead with their training weekend, thats up to them but it wasn't our fault they didn't field, and they had 15 players from what i could see but there was talk from them that they didn't want to risk injuries to players due to their minor championship game on Monday.

It really isn't that complex. If anyone has a different version of events by all means lets hear it, but it isn't true. Glenariffe actually went against the wishes of their players by agreeing to cancel it, if that is unsporting well i give up. It might not suit your narrative but thats the way it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 03:48:01 PM
oisinog you need to read the rules about the suspension process. By the weekend I will be proven correct. Karl will get suspended and Neil will have his red card rescinded. Wait and see. Also I was part of the previous conversation oisinog and if I want too I'll post my opinion for discussion. It is a discussion board after all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 17, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 16, 2011, 08:49:51 PM
Ah Jesus lads, do I have to come on here every time and explain the rules? RM has had loads of experience in doing this, Karl will be gassed! The pitch Closure is straight forward the Dall didn't fckn name the lads for obvious reasons I am reliability told, i.e. 9 to 5 if you know what I mean and the lads in the Dall know it. The Town played it cute as always, so in short if the Dall can't name them due to 9 to 5 then take it on the chin and focus on the Championship.


So The Town cooperates withe the County Board and that's
Quoteplaying it cute
?

and
Quoteas always
?

From somebody claiming to be a ref those are comments that should worry both the CB AND Ballycastle.

what price impartiality from this ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 04:06:19 PM
Jesusjones a ref never showed a card to this 3rd person involved so therefore they were never sent off and can not be suspended.

Is there a referee who can clear this up for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2011, 04:09:01 PM
oisinog

think you are talking about the rules of soccer there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
Nag in soccer a player can be suspended after a match due to tv evidence

How many occassions in the gaa players has  tv evidence been used to suspend a player. As far as I'm aware it is only once as all matches are not televised it was deemed not fair to use this as evidence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quite a few boys have been suspended with video evidence Oisin Og. The dreaded trial by tv has got much PR over the last few years.

Kerry players have fallen particularly foul of it.

Tyrone always have the lawyers to get round it.

Awful lot of dirty linen being aired very,and too, publicly on this thread these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
Quite a few boys have been suspended with video evidence Oisin Og. The dreaded trial by tv has got much PR over the last few years.

Kerry players have fallen particularly foul of it.

Tyrone always have the lawyers to get round it.

Awful lot of dirty linen being aired very,and too, publicly on this thread these days.

You learn something new everyday

I agree there is a lot of dirty linen being discussed but is it in different in what happens in pubs or club houses up and down the county. Its just a wider circle of people to discuss with and I know I'mguilty of it myself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2011, 04:46:21 PM
Ai but who are you discussing that with - people in your own club no doubt.

Would it not be fair to say that if you have issues with your management backing down in yoru saga that you as , presumably, a player should bring up your issue with the management and they should explain themselves to you rather than you coming on some forum and speaking out against them? It doesn't reflect well on you or yout club that things which should be in-house are being so widely discussed on a forum.

Have you taken the whole thing up with your management?

Cushendall people shouldn't be naming x,y or z either as all it takes is someone to read it! Although not doubt it is all out anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
Well I drink in cushendall so a lot of discussions are going on the the lurig or joes.

The reason what happened with us came out because we had dunloy people on here complaining and in the end they nearly screwed us over.

This forum is a good place to discuss things but we are all passionate about our clubs and our games it can get out of hand at times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 17, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 17, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 16, 2011, 08:49:51 PM
Ah Jesus lads, do I have to come on here every time and explain the rules? RM has had loads of experience in doing this, Karl will be gassed! The pitch Closure is straight forward the Dall didn't fckn name the lads for obvious reasons I am reliability told, i.e. 9 to 5 if you know what I mean and the lads in the Dall know it. The Town played it cute as always, so in short if the Dall can't name them due to 9 to 5 then take it on the chin and focus on the Championship.


So The Town cooperates withe the County Board and that's
Quoteplaying it cute
?

and
Quoteas always
?

From somebody claiming to be a ref those are comments that should worry both the CB AND Ballycastle.

what price impartiality from this ref?

Oh please please no more :'( When using the phrase cute it referred to the TOWN naming lads that had been already done, you clown, the Dall's dilemma was more serious reaching beyond the GAA as to the 9-5 quote thus other scenarios could possibly come into to play, and the Dall lads know what I am am talking about. If actioned by the county this could carry into other realms that would have potential serious repercussions for the parties involved. So can you understand the explanation now B&A. So nothing to worry about, no conspiracy theories here B&A, just common sense and a bit of thought from the Town representatives, obviously been there before and got the proverbial T Shirt! It was a complement, bet you don't get to many of those these days ;) And for all those reading in Braille this the Minor game I am referring to only ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 17, 2011, 05:32:54 PM
Complement my a$$. Your implying that Ballycastle are a sneaky underhand club.   a ref with that attitude could end up being called a cheating cnut.

As for Cushendall and their "dilemna" being 
Quotemore serious reaching beyond the GAA
Waht a lot of BS. are they afraid of being arrested if they name the culprit?  Everbody knows who he is. Has there been trouble in the club before concerning that family ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 17, 2011, 05:39:05 PM
Put that cross your carrying down, U just don't get it do you, and please leave RM out of this ;D and you have done that before I believe. Obviously you are still getting familiar with the Brialle, its not the club we are talking about in the dall, it is the individuals, so please stick to the facts, or we might ask you to write a full apology, or even a 100 lines ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
oisinog, you are with out a doubt wrong on the suspension thing. How many players and supporters have been suspended in the past without being shown a red card? Lots, for example LW from the Tipp V Antrim game in 2002.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 05:55:52 PM
Jj we will leave it at that and see what ulster ccc decides. I have a feeling no one will be suspended over this affair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 06:37:10 PM
I don't know if I've posted this or not yet but I fancy us to win the senior championship this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 17, 2011, 06:52:34 PM
Gents i think you'll find the suspensions have been already given today Neils red card was overturned as expected. Karl was given four weeks from his last match which was last Saturday, which for you  Oisin means when we beat you again he will be available for the Dunloy match. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Half time in Ulster league semi final:

Loughgiel 0-11 Ballycran 0-06

Referee is a bit, how shall I say this, "anomalous".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 17, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
Ballycran should have had 2 penalties by now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 17, 2011, 08:18:28 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 17, 2011, 05:39:05 PM
Put that cross your carrying down, U just don't get it do you, and please leave RM out of this ;D and you have done that before I believe.

Whaaaaaaaaaa????????????

QuoteObviously you are still getting familiar with the Brialle,

you have some nerve. A ref talkin about brialle !!!  :D

Quoteits not the club we are talking about in the dall, it is the individuals, so please stick to the facts, or we might ask you to write a full apology, or even a 100 lines ;)

its the club that got punished
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 17, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Can't believe Karl got suspended all well I was wrong. I could have swore ccc didn't hold the power to do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2011, 08:32:38 PM
oisin I wouldn't like to say I told you so but.................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 17, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
Ballycran should have had 2 penalties by now!
Perhaps 1, at a push.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 17, 2011, 09:08:08 PM
Not even at the match!  :D

When's the final scheduled for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
Probably Christmas eve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
Came on a wile piss o rain at the end. I think it finished 2-19 to 0-10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 17, 2011, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
Came on a wile piss o rain at the end. I think it finished 2-19 to 0-10.
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Thanks for the update SIE.  Saved me the trip.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 17, 2011, 11:06:33 PM
oisinboy
County: Antrim
Posts: 314

Please go back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 18, 2011, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 17, 2011, 09:08:08 PM
Not even at the match!  :D

When's the final scheduled for?

We'll play it as a double header at the County Final  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
I'd take that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 18, 2011, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
I'd take that!

Max you have to beat us in the semi first  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2011, 09:11:16 PM
I was up at a challenge match this evening in Loughgiel. Glenariff vs Shamrocks reserves. Good result for Oisins in the end, they just managed to scrape  the draw.

Shamrocks reserves 2-17 Oisins 3-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
It's a good result for Glenarrife to Draw with Loughgiel reserves???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 18, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
It's a good result for Glenarrife to Draw with Loughgiel reserves???

Looks like we need a bit of an improvement for the cusendall match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 18, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
It's a good result for Glenarrife to Draw with Loughgiel reserves???

Looks like we need a bit of an improvement for the cusendall match
Just a tad!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on August 19, 2011, 08:16:08 AM
not sure did oisins get points of the dunloy game or what how will be relegated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

well they hadn't a game for a few days, so I suppose it was a run out for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 10:28:50 AM
Anyone heading to Newry tomorrow? Think this game should come with a health warning especially if it is true that the management have been phoning around players from the clubs asking them to come along on saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 19, 2011, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2011, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

well they hadn't a game for a few days, so I suppose it was a run out for them.

Had they not a 'run out' last Saturday evening in Dunloy?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

At the min thats with CCC. we are awaiting a decision.


We were just looking for a run out as we have just had a few players back from Injury and wanted to get them a few minutes match time under their belt. From all accounts the game was not played at full pace and was just treated as a training exercise for both clubs 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 19, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 18, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
It's a good result for Glenarrife to Draw with Loughgiel reserves???

Looks like we need a bit of an improvement for the cusendall match
Just a tad!

Were Loughgiel playing any Senior hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

Well thanks the debacle last week we would have had one game in the four weeks before the championship, so I would say they were looking for whatever runout they could get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 19, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

Well thanks the debacle last week we would have had one game in the four weeks before the championship, so I would say they were looking for whatever runout they could get.

We dont want to go back there again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 11:52:00 AM
This player cam should be interesting in the u21 games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
Why? What happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
Why? What happened?

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

At the min thats with CCC. we are awaiting a decision.


We were just looking for a run out as we have just had a few players back from Injury and wanted to get them a few minutes match time under their belt. From all accounts the game was not played at full pace and was just treated as a training exercise for both clubs
Is that what you heard? You heard wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 19, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 18, 2011, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 18, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
It's a good result for Glenarrife to Draw with Loughgiel reserves???

Looks like we need a bit of an improvement for the cusendall match
Just a tad!

Were Loughgiel playing any Senior hurlers?
None of the regular starters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2011, 06:02:15 PM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3086

"Over this weekend the Club Football championships pick up a gear with games across all 3 competitions. Our U21 burlers are also in action in the All Ireland semi final, V Dublin at Parc Esler in Newry on Saturday at 4pm."

I never knew we had a U21 burling team!!!!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on August 19, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

At the min thats with CCC. we are awaiting a decision.


We were just looking for a run out as we have just had a few players back from Injury and wanted to get them a few minutes match time under their belt. From all accounts the game was not played at full pace and was just treated as a training exercise for both clubs
Is that what you heard? You heard wrong.

Obviously not taken seriously by Glenariffe, cup final for Loughgiel ressies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on August 19, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Why would glenariffe even take on a match like that a week before championship?
Playing a reserve team is hardly ideal prep for championship

At the min thats with CCC. we are awaiting a decision.


We were just looking for a run out as we have just had a few players back from Injury and wanted to get them a few minutes match time under their belt. From all accounts the game was not played at full pace and was just treated as a training exercise for both clubs
Is that what you heard? You heard wrong.

Obviously not taken seriously by Glenariffe, cup final for Loughgiel ressies!

We were more looking for a game on the pitch as its where we are playing cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
Unbelievable that glenariffe couldn't have refixed our game if getting a pre championship challenge was in their imperative. Treating both league any championship with contempt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2011, 09:49:16 PM
 I'm sure they were really looking the points Skull. Could you not ask them for a game/challenge before they play Cushendall?

Will you be lining out for the reserve team on the 24th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 19, 2011, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
Unbelievable that glenariffe couldn't have refixed our game if getting a pre championship challenge was in their imperative. Treating both league any championship with contempt
My thoughts exactly Skull, they have let the veil slip. Hard to defend guys. tut tut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 19, 2011, 10:46:18 PM
The game was moved Dunloy didn't inform County. We were informed by CCC we must field or loose a point and a fine

Not our fault a mistake was made by Dunloy.

If you want to complain your club can go through CCC. In which you will be informed that the fixtures had been out for several months and Dunloy were well aware there was a League match fixed for that weekend.

Glenariffe are being painted in a bad light when the errors where made at Dunloys end. It was not our mistake. If you want to make a complaint please contact your club sectary.

Please let that be an end to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2011, 11:08:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
Unbelievable that glenariffe couldn't have refixed our game if getting a pre championship challenge was in their imperative. Treating both league any championship with contempt

Nice try  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 02:38:44 PM
I fear a tanking today for the under 21's. possibly a 30 point tanking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2011, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 02:38:44 PM
I fear a tanking today for the under 21's. possibly a 30 point tanking.

Dinny was ringing round a few players in Cushendall today to see if they were interested. I know a few lads piled on Dublin beating the handicap when they heard that. I think it is 25 pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 20, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
Tis 26.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Look the best of the minors are playing championship today, so he ain't got any of those lads for starters, they haven't had a challenge game in a while also (surprised Glenariffe didn't help out :P) couldn't resist.

Armagh should have beat them also and if Derry could have got a team out then they would have been beaten also, very poorly run
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on August 20, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
Tis 26.

I got 4/1 on -24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 20, 2011, 04:40:13 PM
Think -26 was 6/1.  -18 was evens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2011, 04:43:23 PM
Dublin 1-9 Antrim 0-4 HT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 04:45:40 PM
Well as i said on the other thread (scores) that's not too bad unless they were playing with a strong breeze, can't see my bet coming through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 20, 2011, 04:51:36 PM
2.12 to 0.4 now. Only five minutes into second half.  Dublin players will be playing for places now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
Dublin 3-23 Antrim 0-6 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
Free money from paddy power!! Ticket drink for final paid for now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 20, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
Free money from paddy power!! Ticket drink for final paid for now!!

One of our players put £100 on it this morning when he heard the setup Antrim had !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 20, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
Free money from paddy power!! Ticket drink for final paid for now!!

One of our players put £100 on it this morning when he heard the setup Antrim had !

Aye would have had more on it but took out £90 for the "FINAL ACCOUNT" so I'll be adding to it today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on August 20, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
Painful to watch.

Why are we so bad?

Why is there so little imagination in our football and hurling players?

Do they not like, look at and practice the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 20, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Antrim Minor A Hurling Championship
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
St Galls   0-10   3-14   Cushendall   Rossa   Semi-Final   
St Johns   3-24   1-9   St Endas   Lamh Dhearg   Semi-Final   
Antrim Minor B Hurling Championship
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
St Agnes   0-7   5-31   Rossa   Lamh Dhearg   Semi-Final

Glenarm and St Pauls score yet to come through but I am hearing St Pauls won by 6 after extra time. No real surprises in the other game. Hard to look by St Johns for the final but the same thing was said last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 20, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
Looking forward to the minor final, if it is half as good as last year's match it'll be a cracker. Ruairi Og won their semi handy enough, St. Galls had 2 sent off second half and it probably should have been more. They totally lost their discipline and were guilty of some horrible tackles and attacks on Cushendall players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 21, 2011, 12:02:20 AM
Aye, should be a really good game JJ. I think if Cushendall keep the Johnstons out of the game, they will take it but that is easier said than done. Two unbelievable talents

Result from the other B semi final: St Pauls 3-18 1-14 Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2011, 12:21:05 AM
Quote from: Gold on August 20, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
Painful to watch.

Why are we so bad?

Why is there so little imagination in our football and hurling players?

Do they not like, look at and practice the game?
By fcuk we are an embarrassment of a county.

Left to too few to keep alive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 21, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
The Johnstons are both class acts, no doubt and The Johnnies have a few other first class players too. Cushendall up against it but more than capable of causing another upset. We have played some superb hurling this year and we have some special U-16's playing great stuff on the minor team as well. Can't wait for the final, Casement under floodlights again please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:26:43 AM
Would be surprised if St Johns don't win. As said the Jonstones are class acts but they have 13 other quality hurlers. That won't worry the Dall though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
I would love to see St John's win this for the sake of Belfast hurling.  Hopefully this time around St Johns will be able to keep hold of this batch of talented players and successfully bring them through to senior level.

Same said for Rossa when they bring this very talented Under 16 squad through.  If they get them through and if they can get out of Division 2 then that will hopefully be two Belfast teams really competing in the SHC and in Division 1.  But they are all big if's.

As for the rest of the clubs, mediocre to say the least in terms of their commitment to hurling and its development.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 21, 2011, 11:03:39 AM
I'd love to see the likes of St. Johns and Rossa playing in Div 1 each season and being competitive in the championship. It amazes me that St. Johns haven't turned their wealth of under age talent over the past 10 years into a strong senior team. Rossa are fresh from winning 2 minor and an u-21 championship, they should be doing better than they are at the moment at senior level. From a selfish point of view I'd be delighted if Cushendall beat the johnnies at minor and Rossa at u-16 and win championships but may the best teams win. Anyone else think Rossa have taken a backward step going into the B Minor championship just 2 years after winning the A championship? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
Having refereed a lot of minor games this year i thought Rossa at this level were pretty bad, so yeah minor B was right move.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
Agree MR2, I'm a strong advocate of playing at your level.  No point sending a team in to get hammered out of principle.

Rossa have taken one step backwards to get a few of those minors through of this year and will win Minor for the next two years starting next year hands down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 02:05:18 PM
The nitty gritty starts next Friday evening in Glenravel. I can not wait!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 02:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 21, 2011, 01:00:09 PM
That said, they are going to get fcuk all out of hammering the likes of the Aggies by 39 points in the B championship.
They wouldn't get near the Johnnies or Cushendall but they'd give the others a game.

I know mate but at the same time, if they drew the Johnnies in the first round, 25 kids' seasons are over at the first round probably around May.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
I understand that and you're right but there's nothing wrong with Rossa being selfish in this if the end justifies the means (i.e. they get kids through to play reserve or senior on the back of it).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 21, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
Not sure Rossa will have things their own way at minor over the next 2 years. We have 6 or 7 U-16's starting minor at the moment and we'd have high hopes of winning the U-16 all county this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 21, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
Not sure Rossa will have things their own way at minor over the next 2 years. We have 6 or 7 U-16's starting minor at the moment and we'd have high hopes of winning the U-16 all county this year.

Sorry to say but I don't think you'll touch Rossa's U16s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 21, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Any dates/venue/times out for the junior or intermediate championships next weekend??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 21, 2011, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
Jesus Im sorry I missed this one from all accounts, Cargin doing what Cargin do best, however I believe that that the referee on this occasion must shoulder some of the responsibility (Not Blame) from what I understand and have heard, not dealing strongly with issues initially that began to break out, and stamping his authority on the game, he has a duty of control and should have issued cards when warranted. No wonder no-one invites Cargin to any tournaments who wants the hassle.

There will be no hiding though, wee Joe has it all on VT! Lets hope the CHC (Terrible and friends) has the balls to deal with what the CCC hand out, which should be substantial to both clubs.

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 21, 2011, 09:24:01 PM
Apologies Minder :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
What a way to start the Glenravel festival next weekend, with a win for Loughgiel. I fancy the Skerry Inn and Greenhills will get a touch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
congrats to to all the posters on here WHO made some money at the misfortunes of our under 21 hurlers, this has taken things to a new low. is it not bad enough we are in this situation but now there are some people feel the need to have some financial gain from it. due to the current and past state of affairs i don't blame most antrim hurling folk for the apathy that's rife north and south of the county, but for the sake of any young hurlers that might have some aspirations to represent their county and view these pages could you keep this sort of tripe to yourself. never mind posters from other county's reading this. utterly embarrassing and typical of all that is wrong with our attitude to our county and its players.
SHAME ON YOU
As for players WHO waged against themselves because of some inside info well they don't deserve a jersey no matter how bad things are.

please don't reply to this post if your making some justifications for betting against you own team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
congrats to to all the posters on here WHO made some money at the misfortunes of our under 21 hurlers, this has taken things to a new low. is it not bad enough we are in this situation but now there are some people feel the need to have some financial gain from it. due to the current and past state of affairs i don't blame most antrim hurling folk for the apathy that's rife north and south of the county, but for the sake of any young hurlers that might have some aspirations to represent their county and view these pages could you keep this sort of tripe to yourself. never mind posters from other county's reading this. utterly embarrassing and typical of all that is wrong with our attitude to our county and its players.
SHAME ON YOU
As for players WHO waged against themselves because of some inside info well they don't deserve a jersey no matter how bad things are.

please don't reply to this post if your making some justifications for betting against you own team

Talking crap, The under 21 team has been let down by no one on here or any other site. The poor set up of the team again has nothing to do with poster here, the lack of preparation again has nothing to do with posters.

I've followed Antrim a fair few years and if I back against them so what, I've backed them to win games also. So I'm less a supporter than you cause I made money off yesterdays game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
I have to say I agree with NAH here. I didn't comment on the posts about the U21s as everyone seemed to be having a field day, but it definitely left a bad aroma wafting through this thread. I've never betted against one of my own, never will. It kind of takes away from any kudos any of you who betted against the fellas would hope to have. Bad vibes indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2011, 11:17:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
I have to say I agree with NAH here. I didn't comment on the posts about the U21s as everyone seemed to be having a field day, but it definitely left a bad aroma wafting through this thread. I've never betted against one of my own, never will. It kind of takes away from any kudos any of you who betted against the fellas would hope to have. Bad vibes indeed.


thanks for that seamroga, nice to know there is at least one other poster out there that feels this sort of thing is detrimental to the mindset of any hurlers or management trying there best in difficult circumstances. the team they played on Saturday have come from a very contrasting environment compared to our own, we could go into the details of finance, resources of numbers, prep artion time etc but this was not the point of my post. I travelled home from newry feeling utterly sick in view of the fact ten years ago Dublin's fortunes where similar to ours and look at them now. our situation has remained static and then to come on here and read so called antrim hurling people betting against there own team it makes my blood boil. if i was down to my last penny i wouldn't do it and even if i did i certainly wouldn't put it out in public domain in full view of people WHO are trying their best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 21, 2011, 11:27:17 PM
Yes, if you did that, it doesn't make you a bad person but it would have been nicer to keep it to yourselves.  Let's face it, we all like to get an extra few pounds in our skies and there's sense in using your head but to come on bragging about it looks bad. 

But those who bet against and who post on here are not why they were beaten.  I don't know how much truth there is in something I heard today but I heard that some of the players were making phone calls to hurlers they knew were under 21 to see if they fancied a game.  A complete disservice to hurling, to our young players and disrespect to our opponents.  Quite awful and someone has to take responsibility for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
Do you honestly think that they were doing their best?

Fail to prepare prepare to fail.

How many training sessions were called? How many were turning up for training and how many challenge games did they have?

As for the public domain they played Armagh in the final and nearly lost, what did you expect when they were going to play Dublin? Get over yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 21, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
I don't agree with people on the Antrim hurling hurling thread saying they bet against Antrim but each to their own.

However MR you are right how many training sessions did the u21s have? Have they had more than a dozen? Our county do not and never have treated the competition with any respect. Which of the other counties in the semis this year would have scheduled football championships and minor hurling championships the same weekend? I heard both the Dublin and Limerick managers on the Sunday Game talking about how much effort their teams have put in this year. Has an Antrim u21 manager ever said that about the Antrim u21s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 21, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
I don't agree with people on the Antrim hurling hurling thread saying they bet against Antrim but each to their own.

However MR you are right how many training sessions did the u21s have? Have they had more than a dozen? Our county do not and never have treated the competition with any respect. Which of the other counties in the semis this year would have scheduled football championships and minor hurling championships the same weekend? I heard both the Dublin and Limerick managers on the Sunday Game talking about how much effort their teams have put in this year. Has an Antrim u21 manager ever said that about the Antrim u21s?

This Antrim team and like the minors (after Sambo/woody) have not been great, fault lies somewhere but this is getting worse. If I took on the job of looking after a county team I would do so with a plan, I'm sure when Dominc took over, he would have had an plan but was either stifled by things outside of his control.

As for betting, come on, anyone with a passing interest in sport betting will always want to get a few pound, my knowledge of how much we were going to get beat was based on Dublin's results and Antrim results. Not the rumours of players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 08:24:14 AM
I thought it was just me. In agreement with NAH. Its a bit sickening and even worse creates a very unhealhty dynamic of acceptablity of such practices.

The points you're making milltown about preparations is a separate issue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 08:39:00 AM
It wasnt the players who were making phone calls asking their mates to see if they fancied a game, it was so called management and county officials.

This age group has been ignored for years and treated with total apathy. We should either pull out of this age group or treat it with some respect, if not for our dignity and pride then for the sake of dublin and their preperations for an AIF.

Not sure on the betting front, have never liked betting against your own team attitude. Remember being in casement manys a time during league games and guys celebrating antrim 'only' getting beat by 8 or 9 because they had covered the spread. Not a good attitude. But I guess each to their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 09:15:08 AM
Why is no one placing any blame on the U-21's so called manager? How did he get the job? At the start of last season it was announced that Dinny was the senior and U-21 manager. How did Dominic Kearns suddenly get the job? I've never heard of him managing an U-12 club team never mind a county U-21 squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 22, 2011, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 09:15:08 AM
Why is no one placing any blame on the U-21's so called manager? How did he get the job? At the start of last season it was announced that Dinny was the senior and U-21 manager. How did Dominic Kearns suddenly get the job? I've never heard of him managing an U-12 club team never mind a county U-21 squad.

In fairness I don't think anyone is kicking the door down for the job, I would say nobody else would have done it. I wouldn't knock him for giving up his time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 22, 2011, 09:23:06 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 21, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Any dates/venue/times out for the junior or intermediate championships next weekend??

Are these seriously not out yet? Less than a week before the 1/2 final matches?
Given the senior 1/4 final fixtures have been out for months would it not be wise to stick one of each of the semis before one of them.
How can a team plan their training when they don't know when they are on?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
I wouldn't fault him for taking the job at all, I'd fault whoever let him have it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 09:53:18 AM
Were you not available JJ?

This is the problem lads. Where are all these willing compedent mentors and enthusiastic backroom staff who are prepared to look after their own wee part of the overall jigsaw?

In this county we have far too many missing peices. Lets not go down the route of sniping at those who are prepared to give of their time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
I wasnt sniping at anyone, my general point was the apathy directed towards the U21 set up for the past number of years. This can be seen in a number of different ways, people can take their pick of which they choose.

Agree skull we have a lack of numbers at all different levels of those prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 22, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 09:53:18 AM
Were you not available JJ?

This is the problem lads. Where are all these willing compedent mentors and enthusiastic backroom staff who are prepared to look after their own wee part of the overall jigsaw?

In this county we have far too many missing peices. Lets not go down the route of sniping at those who are prepared to give of their time.

Here here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 22, 2011, 11:41:18 AM
i don't blame Dominic its the senior management i blame, lads how much respect does he comand from a panel? The man is the kit man for the senior squad, and never managed above minor club level. To be placed in the position seemed to be some sort of pr exercise and oh Jesus cant say any more on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on August 22, 2011, 12:40:11 PM
Folks this is absolutely embarrassing to hear about fellow antrim men betting against their own team but more importantly the fact that they feel the need to come on here and jump up and down about it.  Makes me sick to be honest.

Then other posters feel the need to blame a man who gives up his time for a job that you get absolutely no thanks for. Dinny appointed Domnic as the manager of the U21s as its his responsibility as senior manager to look oversee the U21s. I'm sure he wouldnt have asked him if he felt he wasnt capable of doing it. I seen him sitting behind Kearns on the bench on the tv on Sat evening during the match so i presume hes still involved.

I was speaking briefly to Domnic at the golf classic on friday in Ballycastle about the game and he said to me preparations hadn't went well. I'm sure he'll not mine me saying this but he said he had called training on several nights and managers from club teams were ringing him telling him that the players were playing club championship at the weekend and that they wouldnt be attending county training.  His job was impossible.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
I'd love to know what happens in regards to club championship preparations in other counties when it comes to 21s.

But isn't our problem mainly to do with the calibre of player available before we start going into the preparations?

All down to the "couldn't be bothered"/"somebody else will do it" attitude of many adults in this county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: heffo on August 22, 2011, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
I'd love to know what happens in regards to club championship preparations in other counties when it comes to 21s.


The players would train with the county in Dublin and then train with the club in the build up to SHC/IHC - generally no clash.

I wouldn't be using Dublin as an example to hold up though given the current difficulties we have with our own SFC/SHC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
People don't seem to understand, I don't fault Kearns for taking the job, but Dinny shouldn't have been able to appoint him, all county managers should be appointed by the county board. Dinny was appointed at the beginning of 2010 to manage Antrim senior and U-21 hurling teams. If he didn't want to do it the county board should have requested nominations from the clubs. Dinny should not have been able to appoint whoever he wanted to the position, especially not someone with a very limited CV.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 22, 2011, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
People don't seem to understand, I don't fault Kearns for taking the job, but Dinny shouldn't have been able to appoint him, all county managers should be appointed by the county board. Dinny was appointed at the beginning of 2010 to manage Antrim senior and U-21 hurling teams. If he didn't want to do it the county board should have requested nominations from the clubs. Dinny should not have been able to appoint whoever he wanted to the position, especially not someone with a very limited CV.

I guarantee you there wouldn't have been one nomination from the clubs, similar to the carry on every year trying to get a minor manager and backroom team. There were two Rossa fellas that used to have an ice cream van and wanted into Casement to sell their wares when games were on and were told they could if they managed the U-21 team. Nobody is kicking the door down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
It's a sorry mess for sure but it's not like we (the county) didn't see it coming. If the county had ten men looking after the team (under 21's) would it be any better? As said the personell might not have been up to the task, under 21 is a difficult grade but it's a great stepping stone to senior.

We can't blame Dominic or people betting against their county. They were it seems very ill prepared but they are ill prepared every year, a lot of these lads don't have the commitment that maybe our southern counterparts have,we have the skill levels. I listened to the match on Saturday, Dublin radio had it on and they give praise to the players like Armstrong who by their accounts was on to nearly every ball that was played into the defence. The goalkeeper got a few mentions also and McCann up from along with Black contesting hard for the ball.

To make an impression at this level they need to be training and having regular challenge games, preferably arranged when the senior are away doing it as it would not be a burden to clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on August 22, 2011, 03:07:01 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 22, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
People don't seem to understand, I don't fault Kearns for taking the job, but Dinny shouldn't have been able to appoint him, all county managers should be appointed by the county board. Dinny was appointed at the beginning of 2010 to manage Antrim senior and U-21 hurling teams. If he didn't want to do it the county board should have requested nominations from the clubs. Dinny should not have been able to appoint whoever he wanted to the position, especially not someone with a very limited CV.

JJ Dinny is the senior manager of our county and if he thinks Kearns was good enough for the role then I'm willing to go with his experience of the man. Domnic's a smart guy and knows his hurling. May not have a CV but you dont really need to be Brian Cody to take our U21 team. D kennedy (the senior coach) was doing the coaching..I suppose he's to blame also.

The bigger issue for me is that until we as a county begin to take the competition serious, its going to be the same discussion every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 22, 2011, 03:18:46 PM
The clubs and players also need to take the Under 21 Championship more serious. If there was more of a push on our own Under 21 championship it might bring back some of the pride at playing at that level.

The last good Under 21 team we had would have been 7 years ago when Liam Watson was that age group. We had a good team that year even then it was not taken seriously
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Guys lets not be fooled either, dinny is no mug he knows the set up here with the u21 and the way it has been run over the past number or years, so he is happy enough for someone elses name to be associated with this defeat as long as its not his.

Dont blame him either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 22, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Guys lets not be fooled either, dinny is no mug he knows the set up here with the u21 and the way it has been run over the past number or years, so he is happy enough for someone elses name to be associated with this defeat as long as its not his.

Dont blame him either

If he knew it was coming why did he not do something to improve the situation of the U21 set up to prevent this.

The under 21 team is the future of the county and they need to look at setting it properly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2011, 03:57:52 PM
Thats another question, my point is he knows the way the clubs and players have responded to the u21 competition and he would have known with the rest of us the result that was on the cards for this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
yeah but don't bet on it!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 22, 2011, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
yeah but don't bet on it!!!
:D always gets the last word.
No point focusing on U21s guys, the whole development squad system is flawed therefore this is what we get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 04:28:22 PM
yeah but don't bet on it!!!
Would you bet on your own team to lose in the championship against,  let's say Dunloy, to make a quick buck?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 06:44:40 PM
I bet on whoever was playing Loughgiel over the last twenty years!! Nearly have my house paid off!! Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 22, 2011, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 06:44:40 PM
I bet on whoever was playing Loughgiel over the last twenty years!! Nearly have my house paid off!! Thanks

Loughgiel were a gift in that string of finals. Were always a decent price for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 22, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
Any team news for us for the weekend MR2, I think the last time we played you guys in Belfast we drew having won a tight round Robin game earlier in the year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 22, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
Any team news for us for the weekend MR2, I think the last time we played you guys in Belfast we drew having won a tight round Robin game earlier in the year.

I'm not playing ;D ;D

Na we have a few additions from the minors, bit inexperienced but keen as fcuk

We won't trouble yous. Ideally I'd like it to be tight for a the first half and then give it a lash for the last 30 minutes. We have had a decent league so far but only playing in Div 2 won't help us against Dunloy.

In a couple of years time we need to make a push for promotion and stay in the top flight for a while.

I played and scored in that match oh I wish I was young again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 06:44:40 PM
I bet on whoever was playing Loughgiel over the last twenty years!! Nearly have my house paid off!! Thanks
That's besides the point, as we all know what happened last year.  ;D

You avoided answering my question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 06:44:40 PM
I bet on whoever was playing Loughgiel over the last twenty years!! Nearly have my house paid off!! Thanks
That's besides the point, as we all know what happened last year.  ;D

You avoided answering my question.

I have never bet against us (St Galls) in hurling as we are dung and the bookies won't give us a price, I've won a serious amount of money off us in football as over the last 11 years we haven't choked at Casement.

I'd the Gael's half time fulltime in Parnell also this year, paid for the weekend we had down that day :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
We're just different kinds of people MR2. I could never envisage betting against my club or county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
We're just different kinds of people MR2. I could never envisage betting against my club or county.

That's good, I can live with that.

My betting won't change how bad we were, everyone knew that Dublin were coming into this game on a high, having beaten a lot of good teams we were coming into the game having nearly lost to Armagh.

That fact remains and will again next year and the year after. Tipp beat us by more the year before and everyone knew that was happening that time also. But it's my fault and others who made a few pound the other day!!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
We're just different kinds of people MR2. I could never envisage betting against my club or county.

That's good, I can live with that.

My betting won't change how bad we were, everyone knew that Dublin were coming into this game on a high, having beaten a lot of good teams we were coming into the game having nearly lost to Armagh.

That fact remains and will again next year and the year after. Tipp beat us by more the year before and everyone knew that was happening that time also. But it's my fault and others who made a few pound the other day!!
I never said that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2011, 09:53:34 AM
Yet again the championship fixtures time wise are a joke, what is the point of splitting the games up over the weekend to then fix two games for Sunday evening were it is impossible to see both.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 23, 2011, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 23, 2011, 09:53:34 AM
Yet again the championship fixtures time wise are a joke, what is the point of splitting the games up over the weekend to then fix two games for Sunday evening were it is impossible to see both.

Big time - Derry seem to be very good at this (and smart to generate revenue). If you wanted to see all quarter finals in a day/over the weekend you could. A feast of hurling and then a few Bank Holiday pints. Seriously foolish thinking.

One fixture that struck me as strange as well as the Sunday clash was Intermediate - St Teresa's v Cloghmills.
Lamh Dhearg on a Friday night? Do they have floodlights up there?
Would these teams have much of a support...not wiser to make a double header with a senior/the other intermediate (like the junior?!)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
I'd love to have had all 4 senior quarter finals on in Casement in the one day. Atmosphere would have been fantastic and it would make a great day out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 23, 2011, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
I'd love to have had all 4 senior quarter finals on in Casement in the one day. Atmosphere would have been fantastic and it would make a great day out.

Agree...or 2 up the country Saturday eveningnight and then 2 Casement Sunday evening/night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 23, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 23, 2011, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
I'd love to have had all 4 senior quarter finals on in Casement in the one day. Atmosphere would have been fantastic and it would make a great day out.

Agree...or 2 up the country Saturday eveningnight and then 2 Casement Sunday evening/night.

3 out of 4 within 8 miles of home - I can't really complain  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2011, 02:02:43 PM
Pdiddy the 3 in North Antrim is nice I suppose from a travelling point of view but it is hard to beat Casement for quality of surface, atmosphere and viewing pleasure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
Yeah but why bother going to the trouble of splitting them all up for revenues purposes and then just shafting the last two QF's just doesnt add up to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 23, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
Antrim website showing a double header with us and Clooney Gaels match, 7:30pm on a Sunday evening is a while time for a match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2011, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 23, 2011, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 23, 2011, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
I'd love to have had all 4 senior quarter finals on in Casement in the one day. Atmosphere would have been fantastic and it would make a great day out.

Agree...or 2 up the country Saturday eveningnight and then 2 Casement Sunday evening/night.

3 out of 4 within 8 miles of home - I can't really complain  ;D
I'll be up on Friday for the weekend. Can't wait!!! McAllisters on Saturday and Sunday morning seems like a plan!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 23, 2011, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 23, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
Antrim website showing a double header with us and Clooney Gaels match, 7:30pm on a Sunday evening is a while time for a match

Our match against you in the Ulster League justifies that! Sure it was too dark before extra-time even began and that was about 2 or 3 weeks ago? Be dark half an hour earlier now than it was then!  Don't know why they didn't just play one game early afternoon and the other around 6ish..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 24, 2011, 12:02:33 AM
MR2 if your minors perform like they did in Saturdays semi final the Dunloy boys will need body armour, some of the tackling wouldn't have been lost in the bearpit 20 years ago, an absolute disgrace. I have to say its not a performance i was expecting from a club like yours, the Bruce Lee impersonator(Number 10) must be really proud of himself running and jumping kung fu style to kick a man in the back and then running away and your mentors giving him the number 14 jersey to change into. how you managed only two red carded was beyond anyone at the match even CJ. That rant over if we don't improve St Johns will turn us over big time, but its not the forgone conclusion people expect, We have some very good minors and 7-8 u16's backing them up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 12:32:50 AM
Tell me how your lads performed against Ballycastle in the county final one year Jamesh?? remind me of that day please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2011, 07:53:38 AM
Just heard that LW has signed for Ballymena Utd. If I'm not mistaken their next game is against Donegal Celtic on Friday night, the same night as our QF against Rossa. I wonder who he'll play for..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 24, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
It just wouldn't be championship without the whole will he/won't play! I don't know how you're not bored of this annual carry on by now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2011, 09:21:37 AM
Because we know he'll play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 09:31:20 AM
As does everyone else so whats with the whole charade? Tiresome in the extreme.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
+1 can we move on please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 24, 2011, 09:38:57 AM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 24, 2011, 09:47:18 AM
+1. not worth discussing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 24, 2011, 10:08:00 AM
We all know what happened that day MR2 , lets face it if this board was alive then you'd have had no time for work at all, the club and player were punished. But one thing i can assure you that our club has never been involved in is swapping jerseys to protect a player who deserved suspended. What didn't help was the fact the ref arrived albeit late without linesman or umpires for a semi final is a disgrace and in doing so only added to his own problems. MR2 just a final point at u16 two years ago did this group not cause bother?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 10:20:55 AM
JamesH, did you's not win?

Are St Galls a threat at this age group or any other at hurling?

Then man up and let it go, if they themselves feel that this is the way to treat and manage junvenile teams then let them be, because no success will ever come from this approach.

MR2 not a dig at you could be said the same of many clubs across the board. Just time to shun people who behave like this and not give them the oxygen of any type of publicity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
Look if someone wants to have a swipe at me or the club i'm with, then fine. But don't expect me not to take a swipe back. We could pull every club here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Exactly my point, therefore we should try and take the moral high ground from these people who think it is acceptable to do these things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 24, 2011, 12:08:41 PM
Terrible sad news about Michael McLean(St.Agnes'), didn't know the lad personally but if he hurled I must have played against him at one stage or another. RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 12:15:38 PM
+ 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 01:08:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 10:20:55 AM
JamesH, did you's not win?

Are St Galls a threat at this age group or any other at hurling?

Then man up and let it go, if they themselves feel that this is the way to treat and manage junvenile teams then let them be, because no success will ever come from this approach.

MR2 not a dig at you could be said the same of many clubs across the board. Just time to shun people who behave like this and not give them the oxygen of any type of publicity.

If you don't want to have a dig, then why dig? If you posted your club we could all have a swipe at it.

As for not being a threat at hurling, sure we never said we were. There are plenty of hurling lads within the club who were totally shamed at the other nights activities, like i'm sure you have lads from Ballycastle and Cushendall fiasco who were embarrassed at their players/members when there was a free for all.

Seems to me that trouble follows the Dall minor team , but maybe it's other peoples fault all the time ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 01:27:19 PM
MR2 my point was that we should all man up about these situations wasnt a dig, Cushendall had got their victory anything else wasnt going to affect them this year or in the next few years.

Could name countless incidents in all clubs agreed, and my point is exactly the same for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 24, 2011, 01:50:15 PM
All the best teams get singled out for rough treatment, Cushendall are the current minor antrim and ulster champions and have again played some great stuff this year. As far as I am concerned the trouble at the ballycastle and st. galls matches was instigated by the opposition who had designs on knocking out the top team and then couldn't take it when it didn't happen for them. Against Ballycastle it was the castle players who started the fight, castle supporters who came over the wire first, I am not defending the dall supporters who came over the wire and I am sure they will be punished in due course. At the St. Galls game I put all of the blame on the St. Galls players and management, some of the things that went on were terrible and it even resulted in a St. Galls and Antrim senior footballer calling his own players and mentors a disgrace and telling them they should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 24, 2011, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 01:08:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2011, 10:20:55 AM
JamesH, did you's not win?

Are St Galls a threat at this age group or any other at hurling?

Then man up and let it go, if they themselves feel that this is the way to treat and manage junvenile teams then let them be, because no success will ever come from this approach.

MR2 not a dig at you could be said the same of many clubs across the board. Just time to shun people who behave like this and not give them the oxygen of any type of publicity.

If you don't want to have a dig, then why dig? If you posted your club we could all have a swipe at it.

As for not being a threat at hurling, sure we never said we were. There are plenty of hurling lads within the club who were totally shamed at the other nights activities, like i'm sure you have lads from Ballycastle and Cushendall fiasco who were embarrassed at their players/members when there was a free for all.

Seems to me that trouble follows the Dall minor team , but maybe it's other peoples fault all the time ;)

Disagree with that.  Two games this year there has been trouble - albeit they were two games in a row.  You can argue that Cushendall had a hand in the trouble at the first game, but in Rossa Park on Friday night there would have been no trouble at all only for an extremely ill-disciplined St Gall's minor team.  The only reason trouble seems to have 'followed' our minor team was because your team only wanted use the game as a disguise for pulling the stick.  Speaks for itself when two of your players were sent off closely followed by a lose of all interest in the game.  Your number 10 deserves nothing less than a year's ban for what he did, as do the mentors for acknowledging what he did by changing his jersey from number 10 to number 14.  CJ McGourty hung over the fence himself telling your own players what a disgrace they were to your club.  Don't spew that shite that trouble follows us when every bit of it was instigated by your own players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 05:13:39 PM
Have I supported what went on in Rossa park? No, I wasn't even there so can't comment on it. In fact I was in Cushendall!! People in glass houses.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 24, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
No but you were suggesting that the trouble follows Cushendall, as if they are responsible for it.  I was just correcting you on that part...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
No need, i put a smiley face on that part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
The Championship

Predictions for the weekend

Loughgiel  Rossa  Glenravel 26/08/2011 19:15  Quarter-Final 

No bother for the Shamrocks with or without Watson.  Loughgiel by 15pts or more

Ballycastle  St Johns  Loughgiel 27/08/2011 19:00  Quarter-Final

Might be the onlycontest of the weekend. Ballycastle won't get it easy but I'll take them to win by 3/4 pts

Cushendall  Glenariffe  Loughgiel  28/08/2011 18:00  Quarter-Final 

The Dall at a canter.  10/12 pts in it.


St Galls  Dunloy  Casement Park 28/08/2011 19:30  Quarter-Final

Dunloy also at a canter.  Another 15 pt or more win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
Agree on all of the B&A

Though the town vs St Johns could a tight one, depending on how both teams turn up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
Will the standard of Div 2 playing a Div 1 team make a big difference in that game? (St Johns v Ballycastle)

St Johns have a very youthful appearance about them, I fancy them to beat Ballycastle and at 6/5 that's a good enough price for me. With the 3 McFauls, McCrory and a few decent minor players I think they have better players than Ballycastle

With St Johns out of the Football Championship they will be more keen to stay in some championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 25, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Why no McFalls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 25, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2011, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 25, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Why no McFalls
They're playing alright. 3 of them.

Hardstationwork
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 25, 2011, 05:10:21 PM
Referee for this one needs updated, I hear G Duffy is not refereeing The Town v St Johns  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 25, 2011, 05:53:17 PM
Is the information out for the refs yet I didnt see anything when I was checking the county website

Dont worry I found it. I was expecting Tommy for our game but Ray is spot on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?

The Town have won Div 2. St Johns have struggled in Div 1.  You'd think that would leave them close.  I think it will be close and maybe my 3/4 pt prediction for the Town is based on hope  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?



The Town have won Div 2. St Johns have struggled in Div 1.  You'd think that would leave them close.  I think it will be close and maybe my 3/4 pt prediction for the Town is based on hope  ;D

Going into the game on winning form might help the towns confidence but the Johnnies also have a few good wins recently so they're not exact down in the dumps either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?



The Town have won Div 2. St Johns have struggled in Div 1.  You'd think that would leave them close.  I think it will be close and maybe my 3/4 pt prediction for the Town is based on hope  ;D

Going into the game on winning form might help the towns confidence but the Johnnies also have a
few good wins recently so they're not exact down in the dumps either.

I thought they hadn't won a league game for quite a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?



The Town have won Div 2. St Johns have struggled in Div 1.  You'd think that would leave them close.  I think it will be close and maybe my 3/4 pt prediction for the Town is based on hope  ;D

Going into the game on winning form might help the towns confidence but the Johnnies also have a
few good wins recently so they're not exact down in the dumps either.




I thought they hadn't won a league game for quite a while.


did they not beat Dunloy a few weeks back?

I take that back, that was in June.

I heard they gave the Ports a real game of it and had improved immensely to the team that they had down with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2011, 07:14:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 25, 2011, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 25, 2011, 04:26:17 PM
MR2
Dont think it will make that much of a difference Div 1 to Div 2 and dont think there will be much in it but something tells me to go with the town on this one.

You serious?



The Town have won Div 2. St Johns have struggled in Div 1.  You'd think that would leave them close.  I think it will be close and maybe my 3/4 pt prediction for the Town is based on hope  ;D

Going into the game on winning form might help the towns confidence but the Johnnies also have a
few good wins recently so they're not exact down in the dumps either.




I thought they hadn't won a league game for quite a while.


did they not beat Dunloy a few weeks back?

19th June that was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 08:07:09 PM
Thats cleared things up, lump on Ballycastle!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 08:37:22 PM
Just a word of warning!  Was told this evening that Ballycastle only just won a friendly against Dungiven at the weekend.    :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 25, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
I'd say Dungiven will win Derry and give whoever wins Antrim a tight game in the Ulster championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2011, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
I'd say Dungiven will win Derry and give whoever wins Antrim a tight game in the Ulster championship.

Is that how the Ulster Championship goes this year? Antrim Champions play Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
so,  business end is here again,   views for the weekends games?  any shocks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 26, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
so,  business end is here again,   views for the weekends games?  any shocks?
No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 26, 2011, 02:00:32 PM
The championship always has a few shocks so I wouldn't juts take it for granted that the favourites will all win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 26, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 26, 2011, 02:00:32 PM
The championship always has a few shocks so I wouldn't juts take it for granted that the favourites will all win
When was the last time one of the "big three" were beaten by a team that wasn't in the "big three"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 26, 2011, 07:57:00 PM
It could be tonight! Rossa 4-3 up at half time. Shamrocks haven't taken the field yet. They need to buck up their ideas a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 26, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 26, 2011, 02:00:32 PM
The championship always has a few shocks so I wouldn't juts take it for granted that the favourites will all win
When was the last time one of the "big three" were beaten by a team that wasn't in the "big three"?

The last time Dunloy, Loughgiel or Cushendall lost to someone other than themselves was 2005 when Rossa beat both Dunloy and loughiel, but at that time Rossa had a team deserving to win a championship. The last genuine shock in championship was probaly Ballycastle beating Loughgiel in Dunloy around 04
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on August 26, 2011, 08:33:05 PM
Any update on the St.Teresas and Cloughmills game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
Cloughmills won 4:11 to 0:08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 26, 2011, 09:07:29 PM
Won by 3 points. LW saw red again. Poor performance, no excuses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
What was the score, did the sending off keep the game tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2011, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
What was the score, did the sending off keep the game tight

0-15 to 1-9, Watson was sent off at the very end i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 26, 2011, 09:18:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 26, 2011, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 09:12:08 PM
What was the score, did the sending off keep the game tight

0-15 to 1-9, Watson was sent off at the very end i think.

What was he sent off for
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
Reading between the lines of SiEs post I think we can assume he saw red for a reason. Can we move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 26, 2011, 10:10:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
Reading between the lines of SiEs post I think we can assume he saw red for a reason. Can we move on

Not worth a discussion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 26, 2011, 10:11:22 PM
Seemed to be for mouthing from where I was standing.  He'd conceeded free, got a yellow card, then had a go.  Unsure if he got a second yellow or if it was a straight red but who really cares - no need to talk about it as Skill said...move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 26, 2011, 11:21:20 PM
In a strange way, up until injury time, id say L'giel were happy enough how the match had went as they had not been impressive so will have plenty to work on and the hype from their fans would not be cranked up.

The incident at the end will overshadow everything now and as i say the game was in injury time and it was a tussle at the sideline near the half way line. Lg fans screamed blue murder at the linesman saying Rossa man had taken it over the line but play went on. Ref then gave a free to Rossa and i think LW got a yellow at this point. LW then was "talking" to the linesman and then the linesman was on pitch consulting ref and he produced a red straight away to LW and not a 2nd yellow. Crazy stuff for players on the winning team when they are 3 points up in injury time to be going mad over a line ball in middle of pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2011, 02:33:38 AM
I think Liam was hard done by tonight. Ref had good game without much fuss but maybe our fella reputation leaves him open to red card when others might not see it. Fair play to Rossa. I watched them few times this year but they obviously have club problems - how can a team be be so bad in the league yet produce in championship? Liam skinner eddie Marty all pulled thru, but I feel Rossa suffered from division 2 hurling. Kettle still tough and Hamill still influences the game some great young lads in shannon and Armstrong. For mc tonight proved cdall have it to lose but looking Forward to St johns v town tomorro - any thoughts guys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 02:51:20 AM
I wasn't going to comment on the sending off. There's no point on this or any other board of putting forward any point of view regarding Liam as the majority have their minds made up whether they were there or not. He was silly for getting involved but a straight red was nothing more than ott.

Having said that, he should be available for the final.   :)


I was left feeling deflated after the first half but seen enough in the second to still have confidence in this team. I mean, do we all remember the Dunloy team of two years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 02:57:17 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
Cloughmills won 4:11 to 0:08
Excellent result. Well done the Biddies! I know how hard they've been training for this. I hope they win it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 27, 2011, 09:56:51 AM
Hold on SIE are you telling me that calling a match official a bastard is OK then repeating it along with a few more expletives when Terry Reilly arrived in is acceptable, or is it just because its Liam Watson that its OK. The ref was quite good, to most peoples suprise, and i cant understand why Liam got involved as Loughgiel had the game won without getting out of 2nd gear. Depending on refs report on wether he will be available for the final its normally 4 weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 02:57:17 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 26, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
Cloughmills won 4:11 to 0:08
Excellent result. Well done the Biddies! I know how hard they've been training for this. I hope they win it again.

Seems a good result alright but they are sure to be big underdogs for the final with a strong pairing in the other semi. Again?? Think they won junior last year so this is a step up.

I know I "+1ed" earlier in this thread re said individual but here I talk solely about the incident. I was just out of earshot at the match last night but am reliably (I believe) informed that the player called the linesman a b@stard twice in quick enough succession. If you play with fire you're gonna get burned and given the stance this year (Ray's correct stance earlier in Ulster League having been talked about to death the length of North Antrim and further afield) whoever is willing to treat an unpaid official with such disdain deserves what he gets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
I don't drink in the Pound. Last time I looked he wasn't that wee either. I did say that he got what he deserved, what's your point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 27, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
A gypsy b..... Is what I believe he said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 27, 2011, 11:05:48 AM
Poor Liam, so even when he's wrong he's right, lord help us. Wait to see the abuse the linesman gets from the best supporters in the County now just for telling the truth, he wont be safe in Loughgiel this weekend. And picking on the poor fella after all he's done for the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: JamesH on August 27, 2011, 11:05:48 AM
Poor Liam, so even when he's wrong he's right, lord help us. Wait to see the abuse the linesman gets from the best supporters in the County now just for telling the truth, he wont be safe in Loughgiel this weekend. And picking on the poor fella after all he's done for the county.
Again, who said winker was right? Perhaps you should read the posts before you let that chip on your shoulder cloud your judgement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
I think all teams have players like this but difficult to admit it or attack a clubman for being a dick! Mate was talking to a few Rossa men and had they taken a few chances they could have won. Gives hope to the other underdogs out there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: robertemmet on August 27, 2011, 12:25:03 PM
Here is an article I have put together about Dublin v Ulster Hurling - http://mal-sport.blogspot.com/2011/08/dublin-hurling-revolution.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 27, 2011, 02:18:32 PM
Surely to god the county could have double headered this:

Ballycastle   St Johns   Loughgiel   27/08/2011   19:00   Ray Matthews   Quarter-Final   
Cushendall   Glenariffe   Loughgiel   28/08/2011   18:00   Eamon Hasson   Quarter-Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 27, 2011, 02:24:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 27, 2011, 11:04:47 AM
A gypsy b..... Is what I believe he said

If the linsman was from Cushendall would that add to the conspiracy theory?  ;D

Last night's game is bad news for Loughgiel's opponents in the next round.  Looked to me like they just thought they had to step out on the field They won't be complacent next time.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
I think all teams have players like this but difficult to admit it or attack a clubman for being a dick! Mate was talking to a few Rossa men and had they taken a few chances they could have won. Gives hope to the other underdogs out there!
I don't know about could've won, but I agree on your first point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2011, 06:11:07 PM
Was Ray Matthews not down to do the Cushendall game tomorrow? Can Cushendall pick and choose their referees??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 06:45:26 PM
Why not? Sure they've been picking venues for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 27, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
Who's giving updates on the match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
Well that was a good beating. Sending off's seem to be the norm lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on August 27, 2011, 11:26:04 PM
Sie , your post just shows your ignorance , who picks the refs? your club mate Tommy the refs chairman and as for picking venues your having a laugh, you wont play us in Glenravel because of some hoodoo from the 80s/90s and now Ballycastle is a no go for you. Only leaving Dunloy , our tradional fav venue is Loughgiel and followed by wherever wer told by Tyrone and wee jack, so you see your hands are involved in most decisions
As for the match very one sided , Ray did very well on most decisions but whats with his running commentry the whole match. Niel mc Auley was mom by a country mile followed by causie . The  johnnies were very disappointing , with Brian MC Fall their best  Collie was totally skinned mc Mc Auley, and Barry never touched the ball until the game was gone, what happened to all these hurlers they are producing? The sendings off were correct but it wouldn,t have made much difference to the final score. i must add our favourate pitch was in some Nick well done big Bobby.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: JamesH on August 27, 2011, 11:26:04 PM
Sie , your post just shows your ignorance , who picks the refs? your club mate Tommy the refs chairman and as for picking venues your having a laugh, you wont play us in Glenravel because of some hoodoo from the 80s/90s and now Ballycastle is a no go for you. Only leaving Dunloy , our tradional fav venue is Loughgiel and followed by wherever wer told by Tyrone and wee jack, so you see your hands are involved in most decisions
As for the match very one sided , Ray did very well on most decisions but whats with his running commentry the whole match. Niel mc Auley was mom by a country mile followed by causie . The  johnnies were very disappointing , with Brian MC Fall their best  Collie was totally skinned mc Mc Auley, and Barry never touched the ball until the game was gone, what happened to all these hurlers they are producing? The sendings off were correct but it wouldn,t have made much difference to the final score. i must add our favourate pitch was in some Nick well done big Bobby.
Utter bile!

We'll play anyone anywhere. Unlike yourselves who seem to have some kind of hoo-doo about playing us in Dunloy, at any level. Re: U21 semi final this year for example. What a difference that made!  :P

As for Ballycastle, we have a great record there. Remember that sickening BBC show about hurling a few years back when Sambo and his ilk were in the Lurig (great club) stating that "we're a better team on paper"? Wasn't that match played in Ballycastle?

Hammered Dunloy there last year as well, I seem to recall.

For your information it was MR2 who posted about the refs by the way. And he is one! You really should read through the posts first and get over your hatred of Loughgiel if you really want to be taken seriously.

Also, if you're going to try to get me riled the least you could do is make your delusions legible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 12:31:44 AM
A great record in Glenravel as well, as it goes. Especially against Rossa.    ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2011, 01:15:39 AM
Ahoghill v Lamh Dhearg tomorrow at Casement. I think the winners of this one will win the final although Cloughmills will be no pushovers. Great result for them against St Theresas. Have seen Ahoghill a few times this year and they were not overly impressive, seem to be keeping their best for Championship this year. I think Lamh Dhearg will prevail by a couple of points but it should be a good game. Ahoghill looking like they could get relegated unless Carey f**k up in their last couple of games. Going to be an exciting Division 3 next year by the looks of it ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: customsandrevenue on August 28, 2011, 02:17:59 AM
The Saints were farther away from the dulse and yellaman than the Shawsers were to the Pounders.
Amazing stuff.
Whaoh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 02:22:44 AM
Cushendall 1/20 with PP and 1/12 with Ladbrokes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 02:23:22 AM
Quote from: customsandrevenue on August 28, 2011, 02:17:59 AM
The Saints were farther away from the dulse and yellaman than the Shawsers were to the Pounders.
Amazing stuff.
Whaoh.

You didn't reply to my PM big lad.

Make sure you don't log in to your other username though, that could be embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2011, 02:33:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 12:31:44 AM
A great record in Glenravel as well, as it goes. Especially against Rossa.    ;)

U seriously expecting credit for scraping thru Rossa? A division 2 team gave shams all
They wanted! Anyway u agree loughuile don't need to fear venues or refs. Town will fancy themselves to beat shams tho - and with good reason! What about Dunloy anyone? I really think dall are the favourites but by god Dunloy are never able to be written off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2011, 02:35:53 AM
Oh and by the way MR2 have u any Rossa friends?! I was talking to few of their players - interesting outlook?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 28, 2011, 02:33:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 12:31:44 AM
A great record in Glenravel as well, as it goes. Especially against Rossa.    ;)

U seriously expecting credit for scraping thru Rossa? A division 2 team gave shams all
They wanted! Anyway u agree loughuile don't need to fear venues or refs. Town will fancy themselves to beat shams tho - and with good reason! What about Dunloy anyone? I really think dall are the favourites but by god Dunloy are never able to be written off.
A win is a win.  I witnessed probably the worst performance by a Dunloy team in 20 years in Loughgiel against Glenariff two years ago. They went on to win the championship at a canter. One can't realistically judge a team on one poor performance.

I was actually referring to a game against Rossa about 20 years ago in the same venue. I wasn't being serious. Hence the smiley after the sentence. It's called humour.   :-\


Venues? No. Refs? Absolutely. But in that respect we're no different to every other club.

Shamrocks by at least 6 against the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 03:01:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 02:59:17 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 28, 2011, 02:33:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 12:31:44 AM
A great record in Glenravel as well, as it goes. Especially against Rossa.    ;)

U seriously expecting credit for scraping thru Rossa? A division 2 team gave shams all
They wanted! Anyway u agree loughuile don't need to fear venues or refs. Town will fancy themselves to beat shams tho - and with good reason! What about Dunloy anyone? I really think dall are the favourites but by god Dunloy are never able to be written off.
A win is a win.  I witnessed probably the worst performance by a Dunloy team in 20 years in Loughgiel against Glenariff two years ago. They went on to win the championship at a canter. One can't realistically judge a team on one poor performance.

I was actually referring to a game against Rossa about 20 years ago in the same venue. I wasn't being serious. Hence the smiley after the sentence. It's called humour.   :-\


Venues? No. Refs? Absolutely. But in that respect we're no different to every other club.

Shamrocks by at least 6 against the town.

It was a great performance by Herbie that night FFS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 04:04:14 AM
I refer you to the post I made previously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
A big win for Glenravel last night over St Enda's, I'm sure Last Man will give us a unbiased account of the game when he sobers up ;)

Glenravel must be favourites for this now and could do well in the Ulster/All Ireland series.


What was their outlook  btdtgtt? I've plenty of Rossa friends but haven't spoke to any yet about the game, my mate who spoke to a few Rossa men said that they could have won had they taken their chances, he said Loughgiel were not great.

Sets it up well for the 'town' to take advantage should Loughgiel have a similar game.

Yes I mentioned about the referee being changed no big deal just a coincidence maybe, thought it was strange he got the post in the first place considering the last time one of the Dall players called him a cheating cnut.

I think both games will go the way they are meant to go, Dunloy have been putting in a lot of effort lately and Cushendall always seemed to have too much in the end for Glenariffe.

As for us it's a case of being too good for Intermediate Championship and nowhere near committed enough (due to football commitments) to have a serious push at senior level

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 28, 2011, 01:41:27 PM
Wasnt at it Milltown and haven't heard what actually happened, not sure I want to know to be honest. We were short a few starting players but its total embarrassment considering we took them to a replay last year. We just have too many mental lightweights >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 28, 2011, 01:41:27 PM
Wasnt at it Milltown and haven't heard what actually happened, not sure I want to know to be honest. We were short a few starting players but its total embarrassment considering we took them to a replay last year. We just have too many mental lightweights >:(

4-14 for 2-2!! big score Last man, you's are certainly a better team than that to be honest. Need promotion, seems Creggan are getting their act together and may push on also next year in that league. Two up, two down required i feel if you's are to make the jump
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 28, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Yea Creggan have really got it together this year, I think they might just edge it against Glenravel who I dont really rate to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2011, 03:35:03 PM
Tbh I think Creggan will win the junior. The last few of their minor teams have been absolute quality and they are continuing to produce good talent. Good to see them integrating them players into the senior team. As Last Man said, Glenravel aren't the best of sides although they know how to grind results out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on August 28, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
Tbh I think Creggan will win the junior. The last few of their minor teams have been absolute quality and they are continuing to produce good talent. Good to see them integrating them players into the senior team. As Last Man said, Glenravel aren't the best of sides although they know how to grind results out

What has Creggan won in minor hurling in the last 2 years, as Rasharkin won everything in the B Section
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2011, 06:58:21 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on August 28, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
Tbh I think Creggan will win the junior. The last few of their minor teams have been absolute quality and they are continuing to produce good talent. Good to see them integrating them players into the senior team. As Last Man said, Glenravel aren't the best of sides although they know how to grind results out

What has Creggan won in minor hurling in the last 2 years, as Rasharkin won everything in the B Section

Good for Rasharkin. Does that mean that Creggan aren't producing quality hurlers just because they didn't win much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 07:36:43 PM
Glenariffe 2-9 Dall 0-18 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
What about the Dunloy game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
What about the Dunloy game?

Think it was a 7.30pm start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:59:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 28, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
What about the Dunloy game?

Think it was a 7.30pm start.
Yeah, I was looking for an update. Gutted I couldn't get to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 08:09:46 PM
We are winning by a point at half time. 2-7 to 2-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:59:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 28, 2011, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
What about the Dunloy game?

Think it was a 7.30pm start.
Yeah, I was looking for an update. Gutted I couldn't get to it.

St Galls 2-7 Dunloy 2-6 HT
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 08:17:40 PM
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
level
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Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
level

Must be nearly over?
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Post by: anailís on August 28, 2011, 08:55:09 PM
Draw! Dunloy got a free to equalise in injury time
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Post by: anailís on August 28, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
Well done to St Galls. Looks like all the big guns are a bit slow out of the blocks this year, or is it that they were a little bit too complacent about what they would face from div 2? Possibly St Gall's have missed their chance though...
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
think the so called 'big three' have BIG work to do
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Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 08:58:54 PM
The "big 3" are not as far ahead of the pack as we thought, maybe.
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Post by: anailís on August 28, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
+1 Minder
What was your opinion of Oisin's use of Tosh as defender with the breeze in the first half, and then reversed against the breeze tonight Minder?
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
defiantly not,  expect shamrocks to get serious shake up over next 2 weeks,  pity galls didn't hold on.  :D
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2011, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
defiantly not,  expect shamrocks to get serious shake up over next 2 weeks,  pity galls didn't hold on.  :D
+1   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
id expect dunloy will have galls in north antrim next time round and win handy. but its leaving them with a week before big semi with dall. everyone needs improvement, but all to play for
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Post by: anailís on August 28, 2011, 09:13:08 PM
It'll be interesting to see when the replay is. St. Gall's have football championship next weekend. Possibly have to push the semi back now.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
midweek floodlight??
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Post by: Minder on August 28, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: anailís on August 28, 2011, 09:00:18 PM
+1 Minder
What was your opinion of Oisin's use of Tosh as defender with the breeze in the first half, and then reversed against the breeze tonight Minder?

Total madness, couldn't believe it, was told to do it by management though. We needed as big a lead as possible in first half with that wind, and the deficit at half time wasn't big enough. That Cushendall team is a pale shadow of past Dall teams. Thought Hasson had a bad day at the office.
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Post by: anailís on August 28, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Couldn't believe it either Minder.
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Post by: 4father on August 28, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
Surprised with the draw but I did think that St Galls could have got close.  They are probably the most up and coming hurling team in Belfast.

How did the Intermediate go?
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Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2011, 09:56:30 PM
Tis the 25th anniversary of probably our worst ever championship defeat to St Pauls. We deserved the same tonight as we were awful in so many areas of the pitch. Bar their shooting St Galls taught us a hurling lesson. They will be kicking themselves with the wides and the jammy goal which kept us in that game.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 28, 2011, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: 4father on August 28, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
Surprised with the draw but I did think that St Galls could have got close.  They are probably the most up and coming hurling team in Belfast.

How did the Intermediate go?
id say rossa are the up and coming team in city, but if st galls were to put the effort into hurling that they have done in football then things may be looking up,   good luck to them in replay
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 28, 2011, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: 4father on August 28, 2011, 09:49:30 PM

How did the Intermediate go?

Lamh Dhearg 2 13 Clooney Gaels 2 08 (per twitter on the county site)

Anyone any idea whether the Lamh Dhearg line out was affected by the goings on in Casement last Sunday?
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Post by: the colonel on August 29, 2011, 12:03:01 AM
Expected a tough battle as you would in a derby game. We were slow out of the blocks, hurled in spells but big improvement needed. Tosh could have snatched a draw although I think we deserved the win. Good to see Brian Delargy back, a very underrated player but his teammates know his worth. Good to see we kept our discipline and Karl should slot back in to boost our midfield and potentially play with Decky McKillop who made an impact when introduced. I must say I was also baffled at some of the oisins tactics and some of their switches. Both spare men/sweepers cleared alot of ball.
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Post by: Minder on August 29, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 29, 2011, 12:03:01 AM
Expected a tough battle as you would in a derby game. We were slow out of the blocks, hurled in spells but big improvement needed. Tosh could have snatched a draw although I think we deserved the win. Good to see Brian Delargy back, a very underrated player but his teammates know his worth. Good to see we kept our discipline and Karl should slot back in to boost our midfield and potentially play with Decky McKillop who made an impact when introduced. I must say I was also baffled at some of the oisins tactics and some of their switches. Both spare men/sweepers cleared alot of ball.

Fair enough assessment.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
Skull, a wee bit more credit than that please, we hurled well
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Post by: customsandrevenue on August 29, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
Number twenty five the subsitute got the goal on the fifth chance he had. The Galls could have won the game long before but it might have woke Hounds up. Time and a replay is write - written - right - correct.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 29, 2011, 12:53:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
Skull, a wee bit more credit than that please, we hurled well
Bar their shooting St Galls taught us a hurling lesson.

how much credit do you want, i agree with you for what its worth st galls hurled well, karl stewart was outstanding but doesnt detract from the fact we where awfull as skull said. think we went into this game looking at the next match. we got out of jail tonight big time and if we cant get past you in the replay good luck.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 01:09:33 AM
Coming out of the woodwork now. Why did Dunloy play so bad?
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Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2011, 08:36:16 AM
I was at 3 of the 4 games this weekend and for what its worth I think the team that came out of it best was Ballycastle. Loughgiel were very poor against Rossa, thought Cushendall responded well to a great effort from Glenariffe and I'm sure St. Galls will be kicking themselves this morning. Ballycastle were totally dominant against St. Johns, Neil Mc Auley was unreal, Cozzy sent over some lovely points as well. What price an upset and Ballycastle into the final?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 29, 2011, 08:36:16 AM
I was at 3 of the 4 games this weekend and for what its worth I think the team that came out of it best was Ballycastle. Loughgiel were very poor against Rossa, thought Cushendall responded well to a great effort from Glenariffe and I'm sure St. Galls will be kicking themselves this morning. Ballycastle were totally dominant against St. Johns, Neil Mc Auley was unreal, Cozzy sent over some lovely points as well. What price an upset and Ballycastle into the final?
You'd love that, wouldn't you? I don't think we'll be so lackadaisical against the town.
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Post by: Megaman on August 29, 2011, 09:14:50 AM
jeez i think we are getting abit carried away here, three very poor performances from the Big 3 and all of a sudden theres not as big a gap. i have said for a few years the top 3 are not anywhere near as good as a few years ago (or i should say dunloy & Cushendall, those two have came back to loughgiels level)  but IMO they are still way and above any other team.

was suprised at the Dunloy result but i expect Dunloy to win at a canter in the replay.  as for the other games , St Johns are an awful bad team, ballcastle played not too bad and without Neal McAuley and to an extent causie are also poor, btw N McAuley was the best player over the weekend by a million miles.

Rossa where poor and if Loughgiel played at all would have won easy, glenarriffe scored two goals at the start of each half which imo flattered them, if they would try and play hurling they might have had a chance, as poor as the dall where they never imo looked like losing.

i still expect loughgiel to win thier semi and the other one is a tough one to call, the dall have been poor most of the year while Dunloy have been playing well recently so its a toss of a coin (that is if dnloy get through as i expect.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 29, 2011, 09:39:47 AM
Only saw the Dunloy St.Galls match and was shocked how sloppy and disjointed Dunloy looked. St.Galls gave it a great lash, working some top drawer scores and had big Anton been fit there might have been 6 or 7 in it. Karl controlled midfield for the full hour, smashin player. Not surprisingly it was Nancy who was fouled leading to the equalising score, it's time the younger boys showed his hunger and work rate.
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Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
Skull, a wee bit more credit than that please, we hurled well

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 01:09:33 AM
Coming out of the woodwork now. Why did Dunloy play so bad?
???
Post 10mins after getting home and one a few hours later explaining that youse had been given credit for they way youse played. What are you talking about now Milltown? Fcuk sake! ::)
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Post by: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
The Championship

Predictions for the weekend

Loughgiel  Rossa  Glenravel 26/08/2011 19:15  Quarter-Final 

No bother for the Shamrocks with or without Watson.  Loughgiel by 15pts or more

Ballycastle  St Johns  Loughgiel 27/08/2011 19:00  Quarter-Final

Might be the onlycontest of the weekend. Ballycastle won't get it easy but I'll take them to win by 3/4 pts

Cushendall  Glenariffe  Loughgiel  28/08/2011 18:00  Quarter-Final 

The Dall at a canter.  10/12 pts in it.


St Galls  Dunloy  Casement Park 28/08/2011 19:30  Quarter-Final

Dunloy also at a canter.  Another 15 pt or more win.

;D  ;D  ;D

well that didn't quite work out!

Was at 2 games.

Loughgiel were complacent and as usual when the Divine One plays too dependent on him.  He did get a few slaps that weren't in the spirit of the game and got frustrated but Loughgiel have done all right all year without him and I heard some Loughgiel fans speculating that they'll be better without him.  They won't be as complacent either. Those same fans didn't see too much to worry about from Ballycastle and I can't really blame them. It could have been a lot different for St Johns.  4 pointsd up after 20 minutes. they had a good point ruled wide. A penalty saved.  They could have been 8 points up and The Town might not have come back from that. Like other posters have said Neal McAuley was tremendous. The Town's 2 goals in the second half were a bit fortunate.  The keeper could have done better with young McAfee's shot and the second was straight from a sideline cut. Simon McCrory had a cracking game for St johns and Brian Mcfall was good too. The Town need to improve a lot if there going to get close to Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2011, 12:00:41 PM
Loughgiel did enough to win, our boy can concentrate on getting paid for a few weeks now and be back for the final no doubt

Cushendall did enough to win

Ballycastle beat a below par st johns teams

Dunloy bad day at the office and nearly got caught

Dont think anything has changed, st galls should of and could of won that game, dunloy got lucky but experience seemed to tell they didnt panic and got the point to tie the game up.

Any word of the replay MR2 as I dont think the semi will be moved from the 18th

Boat missed me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
The spiral of hatred continues. Quite sad really.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
Game to be played i hear (hope) Wednesday week under floodlights in Casement.

Why did Dunloy play so bad? Or wait i think we played really well and if we bring a bit of composure to the replay we could win the match. We were missing two starters who were away on holidays so they will give us extra options on the day/night. Speak more later, out on a fun day with family :o
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Post by: Last Man on August 29, 2011, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
Game to be played i hear (hope) Wednesday week under floodlights in Casement.

Why did Dunloy play so bad? Or wait i think we played really well and if we bring a bit of composure to the replay we could win the match. We were missing two starters who were away on holidays so they will give us extra options on the day/night. Speak more later, out on a fun day with family :o
Easy MR :D, don't think anybody said yous didnt play well but the things Dunloy did poorly, like basic stickwork, overworking the ball, anticipation of breaks etc considering their usual standard kept it nip and tuck. The replay will still be a tight affair but I expect a very different Dunloy side to show Wednesday week so you will need to be full strength.
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Post by: Minder on August 29, 2011, 12:53:59 PM
Apparently we played Tosh in the backs with the wind to try and stop ball going into McManus, as I would say Cushendall would have been looking to finish the game early with goals from him.
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Post by: the colonel on August 29, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2011, 12:53:59 PM
Apparently we played Tosh in the backs with the wind to try and stop ball going into McManus, as I would say Cushendall would have been looking to finish the game early with goals from him.

I am sure you could have played someone else in there to do that role? Neil came out and won quite a bit of ball in the first half and got fouled a few times when he was bearing down on goal. Strange having Chris sheppard in forwards also. Dan McKillop never touched leather in an unusual corner forward role.  Minder it certainly looked like Paul McD was not pleased at all but to be fair i've never seen a man who came on as a sub, taking it well when he was removed again.

We had a few well below par and struggled with glenarriffes extra man back. Thought Graffin was best man on show last night.
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Post by: maxpower on August 29, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 12:35:40 PM
Game to be played i hear (hope) Wednesday week under floodlights in Casement.

Why did Dunloy play so bad? Or wait i think we played really well and if we bring a bit of composure to the replay we could win the match. We were missing two starters who were away on holidays so they will give us extra options on the day/night. Speak more later, out on a fun day with family :o

Can't see the teams agreeing to that, does it not now have to be a North Antrim venue, and I doubt if the winning team would then be happy to play a Championship semi final against the competition favourites with on 3 days rest

On the game St Galls hurled well, very well, and will be most disappointed they didn't take what was a glorious chance to win the game. But we're still alive in the competion, we'll have to see if we can make a more positive impact the next day
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Post by: Minder on August 29, 2011, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 29, 2011, 01:13:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2011, 12:53:59 PM
Apparently we played Tosh in the backs with the wind to try and stop ball going into McManus, as I would say Cushendall would have been looking to finish the game early with goals from him.

I am sure you could have played someone else in there to do that role? Neil came out and won quite a bit of ball in the first half and got fouled a few times when he was bearing down on goal. Strange having Chris sheppard in forwards also. Dan McKillop never touched leather in an unusual corner forward role.  Minder it certainly looked like Paul McD was not pleased at all but to be fair i've never seen a man who came on as
a sub, taking it well when he was removed again.

We had a few well below par and struggled with glenarriffes extra man back. Thought Graffin was best man on show last night.

I am sure Paul wasn't too happy but he was out for the guts of a year with a knee injury and just isn't fit at the minute and wasnt able to get to the ball. He would have been a handy fella to have in the forwards if he was fit. I think Chris Sheppard was in CHF to try and nullify Natty and just break ball but we have tried him there various times through the years and it has never worked, he is an excellent corner back when he is on his game and I wouldn't play him anywhere else.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2011, 01:45:26 PM
I dont think we will get it as handy as i would like in semi. The town are known as a championship team.  Maybe not so much past 10 years. But they have enough to make sure we dont get it are own way. I still fancy us to come away with few to spear. Dunloy to get into semi and dall to beat them by 6/8 points
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Post by: gelvis on August 29, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
MR2 when did Big Anton come back to yous?  Thought he was gettin his kicks with Davitts for the last year or two?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2011, 03:43:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
The spiral of hatred continues. Quite sad really.
wudnt have it any other way. Plus. Love him or hate him. Great lad. But brings alot on his self!      To the fair he shall go ;D
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2011, 03:43:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
The spiral of hatred continues. Quite sad really.
wudnt have it any other way. Plus. Love him or hate him. Great lad. But brings alot on his self!      To the fair he shall go ;D
Oh I know mate. But imagine a young fella heading to the fair!
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Post by: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2011, 07:39:13 PM
Here!!!  I aint having go.  If it was up to me id tell them all to go
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Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:02:18 PM
Bloody spelt my username wrong! "Camam" instead of "Caman".  Can I change this anyway?  Any help would be appreciated!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2011, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:02:18 PM
Bloody spelt my username wrong! "Camam" instead of "Caman".  Can I change this anyway?  Any help would be appreciated!

Shows your individuality. Leave it as it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
Great game in Casement last night.  The St. Galls lads really performed well!  Just confirms to me that championship is a different story.  Galls lads hurled with gusto, belief and passion.  Fair play to them.  Is this maybe the start of the hurling revival in Belfast.  Rossa and St. Galls putting it up to the north Antrim teams.  Well done the city lads.  That wee lad that came on as a sub for the Galls is a flying machine, playing in behind the Dunloy defence, picking up the scraps and then motoring in on goal.  If he had of been on earlier, I reckon he may have really put Dunloy to the sword.  Karl Stewart really showed his hurling qualities!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
One good game doesnt make a championship, if we win the replay then that would be some achievement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2011, 08:33:29 PM
One good game doesnt make a championship, if we win the replay then that would be some achievement

Could'nt agree more Milltown, but great performance all the same!  Dunloy in my opion were slow, sloppy and seemed very laboured.  Their stickwork was second rate compared to Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 29, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
A field of dreams perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 10:05:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2011, 07:39:13 PM
Here!!!  I aint having go.  If it was up to me id tell them all to go
I wan't having a go fellow Seamroga, I was referring to this very situation that certain people were referring to around this time last year, on this board, in a negative sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
It'll make no difference to us mate. I dare say we'll get our fair share of county hurling matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 30, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 29, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
A field of dreams perhaps?

A field of pipe dreams perhaps - if the 'success' of their development draw is anything to go by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 30, 2011, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: aontroim on August 30, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 29, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
A field of dreams perhaps?

A field of pipe dreams perhaps - if the 'success' of their development draw is anything to go by.
Cart before the horse?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 30, 2011, 08:00:59 AM
A week or so ago I was advised on this discussion board that Cushendall wouldn't get near Rossa at U-16. Well we are just after beating them 1-11 to 1-9. In fairness both teams played some great hurling and it was a great game. 1-5 to 0-4 down at half time Cushendall put in a strong second half to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 30, 2011, 08:45:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 30, 2011, 08:00:59 AM
A week or so ago I was advised on this discussion board that Cushendall wouldn't get near Rossa at U-16. Well we are just after beating them 1-11 to 1-9. In fairness both teams played some great hurling and it was a great game. 1-5 to 0-4 down at half time Cushendall put in a strong second half to win.
Thats a great result JJ,from a group of players that little was expected of and from a tight panel numbers wise. Watched Rossa earlier in the season an figured they would be the team to beat. Sambo has worked his magic again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2011, 08:47:43 AM

I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X


Build it and they shall come

St Galls have it all to do again IMO. Looked like they had one of those nights were everything was going right for them and nothing was for Dunloy, those are the kind of nights when you need to be ruthless and put teams to the sword. Be interesting to see when the replay is fixed, both clubs cant be made happy with the date so will be intriguing.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 08:49:34 AM
Do Glenariffe and Cushendun have their own under 16 teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2011, 09:05:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 08:49:34 AM
Do Glenariffe and Cushendun have their own under 16 teams?

We have an U-16 team but no minor team, just don't have the numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 30, 2011, 09:06:08 AM
Cushendun=St.Brendans, Glenariffe maybe not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2011, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 29, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
I was talking to a few lads in Casement last night and they were telling me about the proposed developments for Lamh Dheargs pitch.  Apparently a 3G pitch and other major refurbishments/structural developments are going to take place having received a rake of money as an urban village development.  They also told me that when Casement is getting refurbished thay will become the "County Ground".  I am sure Loughgiel and St. Johns will not be too happy about that!  Fair play the the Lamhs all the same, thinking ahead :-X
It'll make no difference to us mate. I dare say we'll get our fair share of county hurling matches.

Just telling you what I heard lad! It appears they are one of the few remaining urban villages and have now access to a sufficiently high amount of shackles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2011, 10:59:50 AM
Where are they getting the money from then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
I don't drink in the Pound. Last time I looked he wasn't that wee either. I did say that he got what he deserved, what's your point?

McAllisters then...

Point was mainly in reference to your line "I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment."

Karl McKeegan did so I disagree with your point. Whoever called a linesman/official a b@stard/gypsy b@stard TWICE deserves to go so in my humble opinion you're wondering is wrong.

As I say it's my opinion. No hatred from me whatsoever. All I want is consistency and a bit of respect for officials. Don't care who the person is.

You made it personal by bringing Winker into it and questioning whether others would be treated the same.



Any word on Dunloy/Galls replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 30, 2011, 12:13:58 PM
Lastman, in fairness our U-16's have a management team most county's in Ulster would give their right arm for, Sambo, Alex Emerson and Sean Delargy. Our U-16's aren't just good at U-16 level, we have a good 6 or 7 of them performing brilliantly at minor level as well. We were delighted with the result last night and fair play to Rossa they were brilliant as well, some cracking young hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
What is the tarriff for getting sent off vor abusing an offical, maybe the maninblackandgreen could let us know. Some confusion on this.

Thought the fixture for that replay would have made the IN today but seems not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 12:51:19 PM
My take on the game against Dunloy

We started off with getting the first point after some nice play from Karl who passed ball into Gaga, right after that Dunloy scored 2 goals and a point without reply, the goals that went in were awful in fairness. For the first I think Richmond knocked in a hopeful ball, our full backline were in front of the Dunloy forwards who advanced in, I think our goalkeeper had one eye on the forwards instead of both on the ball and it went through his legs!! The second was another balls up and could have been a foul out but hey shit happens.

At this point the Dunloy line were laughing out of embarrassment and thought that was that. Eventually we started to take control of the game and basically bossed midfield and just couldn't turn our possession into scores, Any score we got we had to work hard for it while Dunloy always had space and time to knock over the points.

Approaching halftime we were two points up on Dunloy having clawed our way into the game, noticed the Dunloy line getting a wee bit annoyed with their players, I said to my mate that Dunloy looked flat and uninterested, possibly over trained. Thought Dunloy would give themselves a shake at halftime and come out and blow us away.

We scored straight from the throw in and our lads kept at Dunloy, Midfield was still an area that they failed to have any influence and they didn't make any changes in that area, some of there county players were subbed also. But Dunloy worked a good goal and managed to get three in front and we were holding on, just. We managed to fumble a goal and it left the game, in injury time, 2 in it for Dunloy. Bap managed to score a goal for us on the 31st minute (he had two other chances before that) to leave us in dreamland

Dunloy took a quick puck out and found Liam Richmond while our lads were still celebrating!! Our forwards should have stopped the goalkeeper from taking it quickly and let us get into position, I feel, had we won possession, Owen would have blown fulltime. But we nearly managed to lose the game when our keeper tried to puck out the ball to one of our fullbacks and he fumbled only for Dunloy to miss the chance at the end.

Some confusion at the end as I think extra time should have been played, the game was 50/50 in terms of  how we were playing, at this point and I would have rather taking my chances on the night.

On the replay, I hope it goes the same way, if Dunloy have it in their locker to play better then they can go on a win, if that's all they had then our lads will feel then that there is another chance to get past them and beat one of the  "big three".    I think the replay will be next Wednesday under lights in Casement. We play Football Championship on Saturday night so it won't be before that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2011, 10:59:50 AM
Where are they getting the money from then?

I understand it is some NI/European Urban regeneration initiative.  Hannahstown falls under this category.  Fair play to them, as I said previously!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
I also heard on Sunday evening that RM is ear marked for the county final, as this is allegedly, definitely his last year of refereeing and is officially due to retire at the end of the season.  However, I am not so sure it would carry any reliable substance, but then, you never know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
I also heard on Sunday evening that RM is ear marked for the county final, as this is allegedly, definitely his last year of refereeing and is officially due to retire at the end of the season.  However, I am not so sure it would carry any reliable substance, but then, you never know!

Not if Cushendall are in the final ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 30, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
I had heard the dunloy replay was tomorrow might under lights at casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2011, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 30, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
I had heard the dunloy replay was tomorrow might under lights at casement

Nothing on Antrim website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 30, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
I had heard the dunloy replay was tomorrow might under lights at casement
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Next wednesday night I heard at Casement.

It's like a home pitch for some of our dual players, last weekend that weekend and then the following wed night!!

Gives a Dunloy a lot more time to sort out their problems and come back stronger, in the meantime our lads will get ready for St Brigids, it's only fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
What is the tarriff for getting sent off vor abusing an offical, maybe the maninblackandgreen could let us know. Some confusion on this.

Thought the fixture for that replay would have made the IN today but seems not.
wud it not be the 4 weeks like karl mc keegan got??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
With cushendall looming in the next round I'd have thought both hurling teams would have preferred tomorrow night if the St Brigids game could have been shifted to the Sun night. But the dark side is strong in milltown row so they wouldn't be having that.

Not much time for recouperation for the winners if the semi final date of Sunday week holds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 30, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
With cushendall looming in the next round I'd have thought both hurling teams would have preferred tomorrow night if the St Brigids game could have been shifted to the Sun night. But the dark side is strong in milltown row so they wouldn't be having that.

Not much time for recouperation for the winners if the semi final date of Sunday week holds

Ah christ surely some of the lads will want to be at Croker. If Antrim county board don't rush things i.e the hurling semi (as the final won't be till end of September) then there would be plenty of time to play it. Christ what happens if we win though ::) Clash with football and hurling again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 30, 2011, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
I also heard on Sunday evening that RM is ear marked for the county final, as this is allegedly, definitely his last year of refereeing and is officially due to retire at the end of the season.  However, I am not so sure it would carry any reliable substance, but then, you never know!

Not if Cushendall are in the final ;D

I heard Skinny was getting it  :P ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
Oh yeah!! ...Doh!

Did I ever tell you youse played well yet milltown...I can't remember  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2011, 03:20:51 PM
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just got a text there confirming the replayed game between Dunloy and St Galls is on the wed 7th at Casement park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 30, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
Oh yeah!! ...Doh!

Did I ever tell you youse played well yet milltown...I can't remember  ;)

Cunny funt!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Did I hear someone call my name ;D Sorry lads been otherwise engaged the last week or so, depending on the infraction that "Terrible" put in his report I would say the maximum is 4 weeks in total, however taking into account additional permutations Terrible if he had the intelligence could work the rule book and get him 6/ 8 weeks if as said he had the intelligence of our more established National referee's ;) I'd put the money on 4 weeks, must check PP eh MR ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
I don't drink in the Pound. Last time I looked he wasn't that wee either. I did say that he got what he deserved, what's your point?

McAllisters then...

Point was mainly in reference to your line "I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment."

Karl McKeegan did so I disagree with your point. Whoever called a linesman/official a b@stard/gypsy b@stard TWICE deserves to go so in my humble opinion you're wondering is wrong.

As I say it's my opinion. No hatred from me whatsoever. All I want is consistency and a bit of respect for officials. Don't care who the person is.

You made it personal by bringing Winker into it and questioning whether others would be treated the same.



Any word on Dunloy/Galls replay?
Well, firstly, we were all discussing the incident, not just me. And secondly, did I not say he got what he deserved? (The second time you've ignored this)

I totally agree with you about respect to the officials.  But I've seen countless times during matches this year where refs, linesmen/umpires got called everything under the sun by players, both teams btw, without so much as an eye raised. I hope you're right that it's the same for everyone. I've yet to be convinced.

First drink in Macs in years last weekend btw. I didn't realise how much I missed that tennents up there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Did I hear someone call my name ;D Sorry lads been otherwise engaged the last week or so, depending on the infraction that "Terrible" put in his report I would say the maximum is 4 weeks in total, however taking into account additional permutations Terrible if he had the intelligence could work the rule book and get him 6/ 8 weeks if as said he had the intelligence of our more established National referee's ;) I'd put the money on 4 weeks, must check PP eh MR ;D

If they are all getting four weeks then this will be no different,  were we the only game with out a sending off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 30, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Did I hear someone call my name ;D Sorry lads been otherwise engaged the last week or so, depending on the infraction that "Terrible" put in his report I would say the maximum is 4 weeks in total, however taking into account additional permutations Terrible if he had the intelligence could work the rule book and get him 6/ 8 weeks if as said he had the intelligence of our more established National referee's ;) I'd put the money on 4 weeks, must check PP eh MR ;D

If they are all getting four weeks then this will be no different,  were we the only game with out a sending off?

As it was a league game will Karl (in this instance) also miss one laegue game if there's not one played within the 4 week period?

I'm just wondering if this rule is applied as it is in Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 30, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 30, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Did I hear someone call my name ;D Sorry lads been otherwise engaged the last week or so, depending on the infraction that "Terrible" put in his report I would say the maximum is 4 weeks in total, however taking into account additional permutations Terrible if he had the intelligence could work the rule book and get him 6/ 8 weeks if as said he had the intelligence of our more established National referee's ;) I'd put the money on 4 weeks, must check PP eh MR ;D
If they are all getting four weeks then this will be no different,  were we the only game with out a sending off?

As it was a league game will Karl (in this instance) also miss one laegue game if there's not one played within the 4 week period

I'm just wondering if this rule is applied as it is in Down.
It was in the Ulster League
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 30, 2011, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 30, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 30, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 30, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
Did I hear someone call my name ;D Sorry lads been otherwise engaged the last week or so, depending on the infraction that "Terrible" put in his report I would say the maximum is 4 weeks in total, however taking into account additional permutations Terrible if he had the intelligence could work the rule book and get him 6/ 8 weeks if as said he had the intelligence of our more established National referee's ;) I'd put the money on 4 weeks, must check PP eh MR ;D
If they are all getting four weeks then this will be no different,  were we the only game with out a sending off?

As it was a league game will Karl (in this instance) also miss one laegue game if there's not one played within the 4 week period

I'm just wondering if this rule is applied as it is in Down.
It was in the Ulster League

Of no real importance then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 06:34:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
I don't drink in the Pound. Last time I looked he wasn't that wee either. I did say that he got what he deserved, what's your point?

McAllisters then...

Point was mainly in reference to your line "I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment."

Karl McKeegan did so I disagree with your point. Whoever called a linesman/official a b@stard/gypsy b@stard TWICE deserves to go so in my humble opinion you're wondering is wrong.

As I say it's my opinion. No hatred from me whatsoever. All I want is consistency and a bit of respect for officials. Don't care who the person is.

You made it personal by bringing Winker into it and questioning whether others would be treated the same.



Any word on Dunloy/Galls replay?
Well, firstly, we were all discussing the incident, not just me. And secondly, did I not say he got what he deserved? (The second time you've ignored this)

I totally agree with you about respect to the officials.  But I've seen countless times during matches this year where refs, linesmen/umpires got called everything under the sun by players, both teams btw, without so much as an eye raised. I hope you're right that it's the same for everyone. I've yet to be convinced.

First drink in Macs in years last weekend btw. I didn't realise how much I missed that tennents up there.

You just blew everything out of the water by saying you liked Tennents....euuuggghhh.

You did indeed say 'he who will not be named' deserved what he got. Fair play. Never acknowledged it (twice) as I agreed with it. Would be very boring if we all agreed with each other! Here's to some consistency re mouthing and no Tennents.

Will all get pretty tight with fixtures indeed...I assume the county will keep to the senior hurling semis for weekend of 10/11 Sept or will they change?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2011, 07:51:46 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 06:34:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 30, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2011, 10:19:31 AM
I never said it was ok. I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment. I would hope so but don't think so. The vultures always circle for their piece of meat as soon as Winker steps out of line. Like I said before, he was stupid for getting involved. Enough said.

When Karl McKeegan is behind the wire tomorrow night in Loughgiel sure maybe siddle up and have a wee chat with him about the merits of calling the referee this and that...

If it helps you sleep at night, if it gives you something to moan about in the Pound, if you actually think his teammates join in this persecution complex for/with him (do you actually think so?!) then fair enough...

"Our wee Liam was stupid for getting involved"   "always in the wrang place at the wrang time" - change the record, it is seriously old and scratched.
I don't drink in the Pound. Last time I looked he wasn't that wee either. I did say that he got what he deserved, what's your point?

McAllisters then...

Point was mainly in reference to your line "I just wonder if someone else had've been in that situation would they have got the same treatment."

Karl McKeegan did so I disagree with your point. Whoever called a linesman/official a b@stard/gypsy b@stard TWICE deserves to go so in my humble opinion you're wondering is wrong.

As I say it's my opinion. No hatred from me whatsoever. All I want is consistency and a bit of respect for officials. Don't care who the person is.

You made it personal by bringing Winker into it and questioning whether others would be treated the same.



Any word on Dunloy/Galls replay?
Well, firstly, we were all discussing the incident, not just me. And secondly, did I not say he got what he deserved? (The second time you've ignored this)

I totally agree with you about respect to the officials.  But I've seen countless times during matches this year where refs, linesmen/umpires got called everything under the sun by players, both teams btw, without so much as an eye raised. I hope you're right that it's the same for everyone. I've yet to be convinced.

First drink in Macs in years last weekend btw. I didn't realise how much I missed that tennents up there.

You just blew everything out of the water by saying you liked Tennents....euuuggghhh.

You did indeed say 'he who will not be named' deserved what he got. Fair play. Never acknowledged it (twice) as I agreed with it. Would be very boring if we all agreed with each other! Here's to some consistency re mouthing and no Tennents.

Will all get pretty tight with fixtures indeed...I assume the county will keep to the senior hurling semis for weekend of 10/11 Sept or will they change?

Would be hard on whoever wins this match (Dunloy ;)) Leagues are nearly completed and Dunloy have played all their games so no fixture pile up. Said already that the game should have went to extra time finished it on the night.

Would love to know what the county would do if a team was playing in both finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
I see the "Moderator"  (namely the good doctor/ex county chairman) on the county website, is continuing to reply to posts with his arrogant/abrupt and down right ignorant manner.  God help us all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
I see the "Moderator"  (namely the good doctor/ex county chairman) on the county website, is continuing to reply to posts with his arrogant/abrupt and down right ignorant manner.  God help us all!
good doctor/ex county chairman/ GIMP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2011, 09:56:17 PM
Mmm..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 30, 2011, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
I see the "Moderator"  (namely the good doctor/ex county chairman) on the county website, is continuing to reply to posts with his arrogant/abrupt and down right ignorant manner.  God help us all!
good doctor/ex county chairman/ GIMP

Leave out the personal insults lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on August 31, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 30, 2011, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on August 30, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
I see the "Moderator"  (namely the good doctor/ex county chairman) on the county website, is continuing to reply to posts with his arrogant/abrupt and down right ignorant manner.  God help us all!
good doctor/ex county chairman/ GIMP

Leave out the personal insults lads

+1.

Fair play to the milltown men, they have the hurlers, the fitness and a belief about themselves. It wont be a walk in the park second time around.  With players like Stewarty, the GaGa's, Mackers, big Anton, Kieran McGourty etc, they have ability alright. Their keeper is their achilles and unfortunately for them, that might be their undoing.

Big Mickey Kennedy isnt it MR2? He's been around some amount of clubs. A nice big lad too.

Think Dunloy struggled with St Galls athleticism and fitness and could well do again if St Galls produce the stickwork again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 31, 2011, 02:05:22 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Dunloy trained on Sunday morning...the same day as the St Galls match? Mad if they did...surely they could have played the Glenariffe match instead of training.

Like I said..only a rumour!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 02:18:21 PM
Heard that, seems that they werent taking us serious!! Tut Tut, in fairness our lads were football training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2011, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 31, 2011, 02:05:22 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Dunloy trained on Sunday morning...the same day as the St Galls match? Mad if they did...surely they could have played the Glenariffe match instead of training.

Like I said..only a rumour!!

I am surprised they turned up for the St Galls game  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2011, 02:34:19 PM
Still fancy Dunloy by 10 - 15 points in the replay.

its hardly the first time a team underestimated another team and certainly wont be the last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 02:39:02 PM
Yeah, when the real Dunloy show up next week that will be the score. We can then hopefully get ready for the football final should we be lucky enough to beat St Brigits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on August 31, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Lads, what is the story with the antim county website's guestbook and its grandstanding moderator  ???  :D

Is it some kind of satirical alter-ego or is it for real - he/she doesn't seem to be the hardest person in the world to get a rise out of  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 02:39:02 PM
Yeah, when the real Dunloy show up next week that will be the score. We can then hopefully get ready for the football final should we be lucky enough to beat St Brigits

i dont think Dunloy are anywhere near what they where a few years ago, but i still think they are 10 - 15 points better than St galls.

have little interest in the Football and after last weekends farce would you blame me, so no idea how yous will do against St Brigids.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
Very rare that you would get such a wide margin in a championship match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 31, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
Very rare that you would get such a wide margin in a championship match.

if i recall correctly, every or nearly every match before the two semi's was at least 10 points

open to correction though!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2011, 03:23:00 PM
In what year?

Loughgiel Rossa was close
Cushendall Glenariffe was close
and there wasnt alot in the Ballycastle St Johns match

Did I miss something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
An informed Gael!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
sorry :-\,  i meant last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
Seems our game against Dunloy will be off! We have a football game against Ahoghill on same night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
Some how can see championship taking priority on that one MR2  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2011, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 31, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
Very rare that you would get such a wide margin in a championship match.

you had me doubting myself, so as sad as i am i checked.

5 out of 8 championship matches before the semis's in 2010 & 2011 had 10 or more points winning margins

Hardly rare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 31, 2011, 05:37:40 PM
Lads can anyone confirm if the county website has it right that pinky and mcgarry are both injured?? Was going to have a few quid on the town but would think twice this these lads are out injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 31, 2011, 05:39:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 02:39:02 PM
Yeah, when the real Dunloy show up next week that will be the score. We can then hopefully get ready for the football final should we be lucky enough to beat St Brigits
real dunloy :D  would you stop. Slowly but surely dying.On plus side good to see few city teams on up again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 31, 2011, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 31, 2011, 05:37:40 PM
Lads can anyone confirm if the county website has it right that pinky and mcgarry are both injured?? Was going to have a few quid on the town but would think twice this these lads are out injured.
think twice  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on August 31, 2011, 07:05:42 PM
was in b'cstle on mon & i regret now not bringing a dictaphone for all the rubbish i heard. b'cstle to beat loughguile. what a laugh. you have more hope of osama bin laden opening a pork sandwich van outside the whitehouse!!! where is the reasoning in that?? a team who had dunloy at their mercy 2 years ago in loughguile only to find that their b@lls hadnt dropped yet.division 2 team who got past an unfortunately stereo typed ill disciplined johnnies team.havent won big ears in nearly 30years & trust me they arent going to break that big duck anytime this decade.they r a bit like antrim in that they are too good for second tier hurling but nowhere near good enough for the top table.while we are on the subject read nothing into the weekends results.dunloy had a scare agreed but they have way too much quality in their side to be mugged by st galls. dunloy by at least 8 in the replay. loughguile didnt perform anywhere near even 3rd gear & still won. C'dall v glenarriffe was never going to be anything else but a grinding out by a few points.so formalities done & down to the business end of things heres how it gonna go int he semis - loughguile to trounce b'castle by at least 11pts. dunloy & c'dall too close to call with the result either a draw or either team to win handy by 6 or 7 pts with the winner of this one just sneaking by the shammrocks by 4pts in the final. discussion OVER!!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
MR2 come on now mate what odds on the refs for the semis and then the final, I'm sure they are all checking the site reading and wondering, whos in the frame, RM  is out because he can't get to Lourdes and back in time, so is it Elliott ( sit down boy), Cunning "Skinny" (Dunloy need to be beaten), Duffy(Oh don't I look good in Croke Park), Reilly the(Terrible), Hassan ( Blow in part timer from L,Derry), Mc Auley "Herbie to none chip munchers" Uncle Tommy (Not likely) Jesus thinks that's it!

Seriously MR2 whats the betting, and what club would favour who? They are all dying to know, and don't believe a word they are all on this site every day! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
Herbie for me Maninblackandgreen, While he sent off one of our lads this year I think he's a decent spud who does ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2011, 09:07:21 PM
Well said MR, absolute gentleman.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 31, 2011, 10:01:11 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2011, 09:07:21 PM
Well said MR, absolute gentleman.

Hi Herbie  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 31, 2011, 10:07:13 PM
Anyone but Skinny ;)

We've a few decent referee's now, for me hassan or duffy turn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on August 31, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
Ah, lads, lads, lads, not that old referee crap again!  But for what it's worth, young Cunning should be in with a great chance, assuming of course that Noamh Gall beat Dunloy.  All the rest, with the exception of Hasson, are a shower of shysters !  Reilly (The Terrible one, and by F*** he is) as someone aptly put it, would never have a hope!  :D 

Must get back to painting the ceiling so I can get out on Sunday  ;) ;)  Browny points and all that!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 01, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: auld stock on August 31, 2011, 07:05:42 PM
was in b'cstle on mon & i regret now not bringing a dictaphone for all the rubbish i heard. b'cstle to beat loughguile. what a laugh. you have more hope of osama bin laden opening a pork sandwich van outside the whitehouse!!! where is the reasoning in that?? a team who had dunloy at their mercy 2 years ago in loughguile only to find that their b@lls hadnt dropped yet.division 2 team who got past an unfortunately stereo typed ill disciplined johnnies team.havent won big ears in nearly 30years & trust me they arent going to break that big duck anytime this decade.they r a bit like antrim in that they are too good for second tier hurling but nowhere near good enough for the top table.while we are on the subject read nothing into the weekends results.dunloy had a scare agreed but they have way too much quality in their side to be mugged by st galls. dunloy by at least 8 in the replay. loughguile didnt perform anywhere near even 3rd gear & still won. C'dall v glenarriffe was never going to be anything else but a grinding out by a few points.so formalities done & down to the business end of things heres how it gonna go int he semis - loughguile to trounce b'castle by at least 11pts. dunloy & c'dall too close to call with the result either a draw or either team to win handy by 6 or 7 pts with the winner of this one just sneaking by the shammrocks by 4pts in the final. discussion OVER!!!!

fair enough comment. Did pinky and mcgarry pull up injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 11:31:13 AM
I don't think Ballycastle can cause an upset because of the way Ballycastle played in their quarter final, I think Ballycastle can cause an upset because of the way Loughgiel played in their quarter final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 01:08:33 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 11:31:13 AM
I don't think Ballycastle can cause an upset because of the way Ballycastle played in their quarter final, I think Ballycastle can cause an upset because of the way Loughgiel played in their quarter final.
i would of worried more if we had of hammered rossa. Then we would be going into town game expecting to win. Now loughgiel know what everyone in county knows. Improvement needed.  Wouldn't expect them to take town lightly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Sleeping Giant, my own reading of Loughgiel has been that over the past 8 years or so they never take any game lightly, no matter championship, feis, league or whatever they always give it 100%. I'd be worried if I was a Loughgiel man. Cushendall are a different kettle of fish, you never know what they are going to do in the championship because they never give it everything in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Sleeping Giant, my own reading of Loughgiel has been that over the past 8 years or so they never take any game lightly, no matter championship, feis, league or whatever they always give it 100%. I'd be worried if I was a Loughgiel man. Cushendall are a different kettle of fish, you never know what they are going to do in the championship because they never give it everything in the league.

So Cushendall will win it this year? That's sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 01, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
JJ i know the shammrocks didnt hit the heights against rossa but rem 2years ago? dunloy got out of jail big time against g'arriffe when they only got by when Johnny "tosh" got the line. then should have been put away by the proverbial chokers, as b'cstle hit wide after wide. then in the final the 'dall should have blown them out of the water in the first 15mins of the final but didnt take their scores. they went on then to win handy in the end. my point being when it comes to the 'dall, shammrocks & dunloy you can never use their last c'ship game as any kind of yardstick for their next.think that this year is the hardest to call for a long time. would be a brave man to put their do ray me's on anyone with any degree of confidence. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Sleeping Giant, my own reading of Loughgiel has been that over the past 8 years or so they never take any game lightly, no matter championship, feis, league or whatever they always give it 100%. I'd be worried if I was a Loughgiel man. Cushendall are a different kettle of fish, you never know what they are going to do in the championship because they never give it everything in the league.

So Cushendall will win it this year? That's sorted.

Cushendall have took it easy in the league before, certainly, but they had better teams than they do this year. In fairness Dunloy and Loughgiel aren't great either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 05:34:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Sleeping Giant, my own reading of Loughgiel has been that over the past 8 years or so they never take any game lightly, no matter championship, feis, league or whatever they always give it 100%. I'd be worried if I was a Loughgiel man. Cushendall are a different kettle of fish, you never know what they are going to do in the championship because they never give it everything in the league.
i belive it to be wide open. Who ever plays on the day. Also not a bad thing to try and give 100% in every game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2011, 08:02:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Sleeping Giant, my own reading of Loughgiel has been that over the past 8 years or so they never take any game lightly, no matter championship, feis, league or whatever they always give it 100%. I'd be worried if I was a Loughgiel man. Cushendall are a different kettle of fish, you never know what they are going to do in the championship because they never give it everything in the league.

So Cushendall will win it this year? That's sorted.
Quelle surprise!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??

try phoning the local butchers and see if you can get a player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 10:29:35 PM
Bluff all they want, sure Loughgiel will hammer them anyway surely?? I jest, be a tight game and Loughgiel will be running scared. Rossa have not been great for a few years and ran them close last time out, Loughgiel were at full strength also so nothing else to bring to the table
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2011, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2011, 10:29:35 PM
Bluff all they want, sure Loughgiel will hammer them anyway surely?? I jest, be a tight game and Loughgiel will be running scared. Rossa have not been great for a few years and ran them close last time out, Loughgiel were at full strength also so nothing else to bring to the table
We run from no man!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 01, 2011, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.

Always NAG1? 35 county final appearances would tend to suggest otherwise but maybe your dictionary has a different defninition of always!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??

try phoning the local butchers and see if you can get a player
any other player might have belived you. Not him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2011, 09:07:21 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 01, 2011, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.

Always NAG1? 35 county final appearances would tend to suggest otherwise but maybe your dictionary has a different defninition of always!!!

OK always in recent times then, look to the future fairhead not the past. Thats been half the problem there for the last 20 odd years no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 02, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
Ballycastle did lose 4 finals in the 90's, beat a good Rossa team in one of the semi finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2011, 09:24:18 AM
Well LG took alot more stick for losing not too many more finals  ;)

Point being they apart from one of the finals that sticks in my memory didnt come close. I have always been disappointed by them when it has come to the bigger games of 'recent times' they have good players and good talent but they never seem to produce it when it really really matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 02, 2011, 09:29:09 AM
i have expected more of them in some recent semi finals, where they have been very tame, though they did give us our fill of it 2 years ago in the Quarter Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Do you expect them to do the same to LG? I for one dont.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 02, 2011, 09:38:45 AM
No, I expect LG to win with a fair bit to spare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 02, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
Ballycastle did lose 4 finals in the 90's, beat a good Rossa team in one of the semi finals

They were home and hosed against the Dall one year, 1992 I think, second of the Dalls three in a row, until they shit on the nest badly. Were in the final in 1993 again, Dall again, wasn't anywhere near as close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
We beat Ballycastle in 3 finals in the 90's. In 1992 it took a great comeback inspired by Danny Mc Naughton(RIP) to get us home, 1993 we won by 10 and in 1996 by 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
We beat Ballycastle in 3 finals in the 90's. In 1992 it took a great comeback inspired by Danny Mc Naughton(RIP) to get us home, 1993 we won by 10 and in 1996 by 6.

In fairness that comeback was inspired as much by the Town keeper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 02, 2011, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??

try phoning the local butchers and see if you can get a player
any other player might have belived you. Not him

I hope your right but its what I got told. Him and another boy are in Spain. I'll be back in the town tomorrow. I might buy some meat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 02, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
We beat Ballycastle in 3 finals in the 90's. In 1992 it took a great comeback inspired by Danny Mc Naughton(RIP) to get us home, 1993 we won by 10 and in 1996 by 6.

In fairness that comeback was inspired as much by the Town keeper.

Spring???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 02, 2011, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??

try phoning the local butchers and see if you can get a player
any other player might have belived you. Not him

I hope your right but its what I got told. Him and another boy are in Spain. I'll be back in the town tomorrow. I might buy some meat.
wel belive me. If every player that lines out for town wants it as bad as the lad in question.   Were in for a serious game!!  That being said. Dont think they do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
Minder I have a video of the 1992 final in the house, granted Paul Smyth dropped a long free into the net in the second half but Danny scored 1-7 that day. 0-3 from play in the second half. Quite simply without the performances of him, Sambo, Paddy Walsh and Mark Mc Cambridge we were beat that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
Minder I have a video of the 1992 final in the house, granted Paul Smyth dropped a long free into the net in the second half but Danny scored 1-7 that day. 0-3 from play in the second half. Quite simply without the performances of him, Sambo, Paddy Walsh and Mark Mc Cambridge we were beat that day.
96 was also a win inspired by Danny. Brother over the team and i think two sons in it. If ever a team deserved to win it, surely it was that year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:43:44 PM
96 was a year we really had to win it for Danny who passed away earlier in the season. His son Ruairi played full forward in the semi against Cushendun and the final against Ballycastle scoring 0-4 from play. A fitting tribute to his dad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2011, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:43:44 PM
96 was a year we really had to win it for Danny who passed away earlier in the season. His son Ruairi played full forward in the semi against Cushendun and the final against Ballycastle scoring 0-4 from play. A fitting tribute to his dad.

What the hell happened to Cushendun?

Remember them in a senior final 10 years ago and now they're Junior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 02:20:20 PM
Its sad to see what has happened to Cushendun, when Dunloy were put out in 1996 they should have went on to win the championship that year but they made a mess of the semi final against ourselves and the rest is history. They had great hurlers like the 2 grahams, dan kinney, aidan mort, emmett o hara and connleth mc neill and should have won at least 1 championship. Relegated from division 3 this year. sad sad state of affairs. Just goes to show you can never take your eye off the ball with the juveniles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2011, 02:45:36 PM
With smaller family sizes, the national trust status is really where the problems lie isn't it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 02, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
Yeah must be difficult to get any sort of team out in the population catchment so small
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 02, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
Minder I have a video of the 1992 final in the house, granted Paul Smyth dropped a long free into the net in the second half but Danny scored 1-7 that day. 0-3 from play in the second half. Quite simply without the performances of him, Sambo, Paddy Walsh and Mark Mc Cambridge we were beat that day.

Cracking hurler.  Retired from the game much to early imo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 02, 2011, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 02, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 01:05:34 PM
Minder I have a video of the 1992 final in the house, granted Paul Smyth dropped a long free into the net in the second half but Danny scored 1-7 that day. 0-3 from play in the second half. Quite simply without the performances of him, Sambo, Paddy Walsh and Mark Mc Cambridge we were beat that day.

Cracking hurler.  Retired from the game much to early imo.

I think your correct. Doing a good bit of coaching the last few years thankfully
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Open your own thread on Cushendall lads!! There's enough of yis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2011, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Open your own thread on Cushendall lads!! There's enough of yis
There's more of them posting in this thread than went to the final last year.    :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2011, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2011, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Open your own thread on Cushendall lads!! There's enough of yis
There's more of them posting in this thread than went to the final last year.    :D

At least they stayed til the end  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2011, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2011, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2011, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Open your own thread on Cushendall lads!! There's enough of yis
There's more of them posting in this thread than went to the final last year.    :D

At least they stayed til the end  ;)
That's because you had wait on the rest of them to go back in the minibus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 02, 2011, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2011, 02:20:20 PM
Its sad to see what has happened to Cushendun, when Dunloy were put out in 1996 they should have went on to win the championship that year but they made a mess of the semi final against ourselves and the rest is history. They had great hurlers like the 2 grahams, dan kinney, aidan mort, emmett o hara and connleth mc neill and should have won at least 1 championship. Relegated from division 3 this year. sad sad state of affairs. Just goes to show you can never take your eye off the ball with the juveniles.

The year they got to the final vrs Dunloy they'd Dunloy rattled with Emmet O'Hara (small, quick left hander, if i remember correctly) getting the better of Pappy O'Kane for long enough until Dunloy moved Patch Mullan onto him. Dunloy took control after that and ran out winners.

When the two Grahams transferred to Rossa they were very instrumental in their Antrim and Ulster win in 2004. (can be corrected on the details)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa

Left one of our players on crutches for about 8 months with one of the dirtiest acts I have seen on a hurling pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
Hey, it happens!! did he mean to leave a player ion crutches? there was fcuk all to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 02, 2011, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa

Left one of our players on crutches for about 8 months with one of the dirtiest acts I have seen on a hurling pitch.

Who, Emmet?

The brother Barry was a wingnut, had a few wrestles with him back in the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 02, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa

Were the two Grahams not born and reared in North Belfast with their Da taking them down to Cushendun all the time for training and the likes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 02, 2011, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa

Were the two Grahams not born and reared in North Belfast with their Da taking them down to Cushendun all the time for training and the likes?

Aye think both went to St Malachy's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:18:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
Hey, it happens!! did he mean to leave a player ion crutches? there was fcuk all to him

No harm to him but he meant it alright. When a man is lying defenceless on the ground and somebody is standing over you champing the f**k out of your knee ( with the ball at the other end of the pitch) it is deliberate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!

We played Cushendun in a "friendly" about 10 years ago and it lasted 10 minutes before it was abandoned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 02, 2011, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:53:44 PM
Youre right, wee Emmet cracking wee hurler back in the day (played in juvenile county team with him)

And the two Graham's made a huge impact on Rossa

Left one of our players on crutches for about 8 months with one of the dirtiest acts I have seen on a
hurling pitch.

Who, Emmet?

The brother Barry was a wingnut, had a few wrestles with him back in the day.

Barry is still lining out which kind of shows the numbers they have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2011, 10:54:57 PM
Yer man McQuillan was handy with a stick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 02, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!

I remember a 7 aside game between the 2 that was abandoned after 5 mins, old man graham was refereeing it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 02, 2011, 11:46:40 PM
That may have been it--was it a tournament or just those 2 teams at Cushendun?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!

We played Cushendun in a "friendly" about 10 years ago and it lasted 10 minutes before it was abandoned.
Was that match played at home. I think I remember calling out a bit late to watch it on a really lovely summers evening and by the time I got there it had been abandoned. I seem to remember Shane McDonnell being up to his oxters in Cushendun men at one stage!

Barry was year above me in school so would be 36/37 now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2011, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!
We played Cushendun in a "friendly" about 10 years ago and it lasted 10 minutes before it was abandoned.
Was that match played at home. I think I remember calling out a bit late to watch it on a really lovely summers evening and by the time I got there it had been abandoned. I seem to remember Shane McDonnell being up to his oxters in Cushendun men at one stage!

Barry was year above me in school so would be 36/37 now.

Same game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
Shane would be my age, christ I'm getting old!! we played on same team also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 03, 2011, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!
Jeasus, sorry I missed that, Glensmen knocking the crap out of each other.   Ah well parish rivalry!  ??? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 03, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
black & amber, why you think im bitter???  cos i dont paint the rosy picture of the town or cos the truth hurts!!  you said it yourself they get a win in the c'ship then the whole banjo cut loose on the old ale & the numbers dwindle for training.not the actions of champions in wait. i can assure you i have no axe with the town or any other team. if a team is good i'll say it as i've shown in my posts. call it as you see it,thats what im doing & sorry if you dont like it but b'castle are quite simply not good enough to win big ears & my feeling is that the shammrocks will cut loose in the semi & do a real number on them. also Shane mc donnell couldn't have been playing in the abandoned c'dall v c'dun game as he played for glenarriffe all his days.maybe you meant one of the cousins raymond,conrad or randal who did transfer to c'dun in the '90's???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Rossa in quarter final of sevens. they are raging cause they are not drinking!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2011, 04:18:07 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 03, 2011, 03:20:37 PM
black & amber, why you think im bitter???  cos i dont paint the rosy picture of the town or cos the truth hurts!!  you said it yourself they get a win in the c'ship then the whole banjo cut loose on the old ale & the numbers dwindle for training.not the actions of champions in wait. i can assure you i have no axe with the town or any other team. if a team is good i'll say it as i've shown in my posts. call it as you see it,thats what im doing & sorry if you dont like it but b'castle are quite simply not good enough to win big ears & my feeling is that the shammrocks will cut loose in the semi & do a real number on them. also Shane mc donnell couldn't have been playing in the abandoned c'dall v c'dun game as he played for glenarriffe all his days.maybe you meant one of the cousins raymond,conrad or randal who did transfer to c'dun in the '90's???

He was talking about a friendly between Glenariffe v Cushendun.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2011, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 02, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 02, 2011, 10:24:15 PM
Maybe some of you Dall ones will remember one time around the mid 90's there was a senior game in Cushendun v yourselves (may have been reserve) on a wet evening when after about 5 mins all hell broke loose and the game was abandoned.

Men were thumping each other with sticks it was like a war!

We played Cushendun in a "friendly" about 10 years ago and it lasted 10 minutes before it was abandoned.
Was that match played at home. I think I remember calling out a bit late to watch it on a really lovely summers evening and by the time I got there it had been abandoned. I seem to remember Shane McDonnell being up to his oxters in Cushendun men at one stage!

Barry was year above me in school so would be 36/37 now.

That reminds me of the time we used to run a tournament over the first week of the July holidays with games during the week nights and then we'd normally have a pretty strong team up from the south on the saturday and sunday to play whatever teams made it through the week.
We made a monumental mistake of letting the Johnnies and Sarsfields play each other not too long after the whole hullabaloo in Sarsfields which led to a few lads transferring to the Johnnies, sometime in the mid to late 80's as I think Sean McGuinness resigned from Antrim hurling manager over it.

The game had barely started when one of the Sarsfields subs said something or other and before you know it they were all at it hammer and tongs, whailing each other with hurls. Game was abandoned after five minutes, no referee's report or FA. I'd never seen anything like it since. Utter madness that no one was badly injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
Still no confirmation of dates/times/venues for matches in the senior hurling championship on the county site a week after the last game was played. What a shambles!

Do you think if your man stopped using his thesaurus to wrongly use the word "demagoguery" on the county guestbook, (folks down here can't believe he gets away with what he does on an official county site),  he/she might actually post something on there of some relevance to people once in a while?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 04, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
folks down here can't believe he gets away with what he does on an official county site

It looks completely awful on the county.  I've a few friends in Armagh who log on all the time and laugh about it.  Do they not realize that its the official county site and therefore reflects all of us?  On no other county website do the officialdom reply in such ways.  Cheeky would be an understatement.  Its arrogant, its pompous and its completely dis-empowering. 

Surely there is some way of stopping that (in a democratic way?).

The Cats were super today, a joy to watch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 07:52:23 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 04, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
folks down here can't believe he gets away with what he does on an official county site

It looks completely awful on the county.  I've a few friends in Armagh who log on all the time and laugh about it.  Do they not realize that its the official county site and therefore reflects all of us?  On no other county website do the officialdom reply in such ways.  Cheeky would be an understatement.  Its arrogant, its pompous and its completely dis-empowering. 

Surely there is some way of stopping that (in a democratic way?).

The Cats were super today, a joy to watch!
Your friends in Armagh aren't the only ones. I know folks in several counties south of the Boyne who log in every other evening for a gander at his verbosity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 04, 2011, 08:13:25 PM
It's a poor reflection on our poor county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2011, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 02, 2011, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 01, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 01, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2011, 10:15:52 AM
Wouldnt matter, the wheels always come off the wagon for the town at the semi final stage. Dont think this current crop are any different.
i

And they've done just that fromwhat I here. Ructions at training about boyos boozing at the fair -maybe auld stock bitter cnut that he sounds was talking to them-  and 2 gone awol.  Too busy argueing about who was there to train.
A Bluff??

try phoning the local butchers and see if you can get a player
any other player might have belived you. Not him

I hope your right but its what I got told. Him and another boy are in Spain. I'll be back in the town tomorrow. I might buy some meat.

He is in Spain   :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2011, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
Still no confirmation of dates/times/venues for matches in the senior hurling championship on the county site a week after the last game was played. What a shambles!

Do you think if your man stopped using his thesaurus to wrongly use the word "demagoguery" on the county guestbook, (folks down here can't believe he gets away with what he does on an official county site),  he/she might actually post something on there of some relevance to people once in a while?

http://www.mcquillangac.com/

Armoy Saturday 10th 3:30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 04, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
Have Armoy improved their pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 04, 2011, 08:59:48 PM
To things more light hearted!  I have been a keen Tipp fan all my days, but you really do have to take your hats off to Kilkenny today, the really are a 'Savage Team'.  Superb performance all round indeed.

But what a great day in croker apart from the pishing rain.  Absolutley soaked in the lower Cussack although the crack was mighty with the Tipp/Kats fans.

Well off to bed now, those few pints off the balck stuff and another few cans on the bus travelling home have taken their toll.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2011, 09:11:41 PM
We played Cushendall in Ulster League, they've improved the pitch but but do they have the viewing room for a SHC semi final, especially Both clubs being so local they can expect a big crowd

From memory they have no steps or hills on either side and parking will be limited too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 04, 2011, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 04, 2011, 09:11:41 PM
We played Cushendall in Ulster League, they've improved the pitch but but do they have the viewing room for a SHC semi final, especially Both clubs being so local they can expect a big crowd

From memory they have no steps or hills on either side and parking will be limited too

That's what I was thinking.  Surely Cushendall would have been a good venue or Dunloy in this case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
 :(  Not a senior championship venue just yet imo. Especially if it's wet.  It not only needs a new surface but needs lengthened as well. I went to the u21 semi against the Dall there, the ref almost postponed the game because of the state of the pitch. Also a valid point from Max about the viewing aspect.

Thanks to B+A btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
Where will the other semi final be played, I'm assuming they have arrangements made for whoever wins on Wednesday night, maybe Randalstown if SG win Loughgiel if dunloy win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
It in armoy regardless us it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 04, 2011, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
It in armoy regardless us it not?

Eh? You on the beer skull? :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2011, 08:34:31 AM
That or predicitive text diddy  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2011, 10:37:25 AM
Great physical intensity to the game, but amazing how many slaps and pulls just go unpunished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on September 05, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
You all know Armoy have a new pitch, right....?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2011, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: scamroc on September 05, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
You all know Armoy have a new pitch, right....?
Up at the back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 05, 2011, 05:28:15 PM
Cushendall game is in now in Loughgiel at 6pm on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 05, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
great point about armoy being poor for the viewing so heres one for all you conspiracy theorists. dun v st galls on wed night. the winner then expected to play a semi final 4days later??? methinks not. i know that on the tues following our match v g'arriffe 5 players were unable to train due to knocks, dead leg etc. dun or st galls will defo appeal & rightly so in my opinion. will the county show a total diregard for the occassion & put that semi final back to wed 13th under lights at casement??? complete farce if they do.dont forget a double header in the county eyes will bring in less spondolacs so they could use an appeal by either team as a smokescreen to their real plan to have 2 gates at diff venues.hope im wrong but watch this space!!! why could dun & st galls not have played yesterday & the football be put back to this wed???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 05, 2011, 06:05:58 PM
Why would the winners of Wednesday night not play on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 06:13:11 PM
I heard that Dunloy asked the county to delay the semi!! While i was at Headquarters did i miss something?? Was the replay played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 05, 2011, 06:35:29 PM
if you have a tough game 4days doesnt really give you time to recover. if you have any knock at all you would have to rest & a couple of days & most probably miss any training session the team may have before the semi.what is there 7,8 teams in total??? why cram the whole c'ship into 4 calender weeks???  anyhow someone says the c'dall game on sun at 6 in loughguile so there is the 1st part of the conspiracy theory up. now just waiting to see how long it takes to put the date back also!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 05, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 05, 2011, 06:35:29 PM
if you have a tough game 4days doesnt really give you time to recover. if you have any knock at all you would have to rest & a couple of days & most probably miss any training session the team may have before the semi.what is there 7,8 teams in total??? why cram the whole c'ship into 4 calender weeks???  anyhow someone says the c'dall game on sun at 6 in loughguile so there is the 1st part of the conspiracy theory up. now just waiting to see how long it takes to put the date back also!!!

Pish! If the knock is too bad for 4days to take care of then it'll probably take longer than the extra week aswell.  If they really want to play they'll play.  No point delaying one game and leaving the other teams champing at the bit in training.  Knocks and slaps happen, boys get injured, c'est la vie.  Get the championship games played before every pitch turns into a bog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 05, 2011, 07:14:10 PM
fair enough then. should work to our advantage. in theory!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
It's to piss down the next few nights so Wed nights match may be a lottery!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2011, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
It's to piss down the next few nights so Wed nights match may be a lottery!!
Let's hope so!     ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 05, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
I see our beloved referees are getting a touch on the county website.  In most part, I would have to agree with some of the comments, in particular that our refs do not let the game flow and are quick to blow the whistle for menial technical fouls and the odd bit of slapping.

No question the game down south is a lot more abrasive than ours, and our teams, mentors and supporters are just too quick to commence lambasting the referees.  Truth be told, our lads are have never really been exposed to the level of physicality that the top hurling teams play both at inter county and club level.

That said, referees in the six counties and in Antrim and Down in particular, are much too focused on the old inter club rivalry and feel the necessity to blow for some of the rough and tumble that takes place.

Watching yesterdays game at close quarters, there is no question that the physical aspect of the game among the premiere hurling teams in the country is part and parcel of what is expected within the game at this level. Yesterdays game was "savage" yet entertaining, theres not one of us would deny that.  However, our players and our referees are nowhere near the that standard or capabilty when it comes to playing or marshalling the games such as yesterdays intense showpiece.


Our top refs, such as Elliot, Hassan, Duffy, Mathews, Cunning, Magee etc. in my view feel the focus of the game is more about them than the teams participating.  They are always quick to blow for the slightest hint of physical contact and tend also to anticipate fouls before they actually happen.

Elliot in my view, is probaly the least likely to blow for the menial stuff that occours among our teams here in Antrim
and probably has a greater grasp and understanding that the game is physical.  Other than Elliot, I feel the rest have  alot to learn!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 05, 2011, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 05, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
I see our beloved referees are getting a touch on the county website.  In most part, I would have to agree with some of the comments, in particular that our refs do not let the game flow and are quick to blow the whistle for menial technical fouls and the odd bit of slapping.

No question the game down south is a lot more abrasive than ours, and our teams, mentors and supporters are just too quick to commence lambasting the referees.  Truth be told, our lads are have never really been exposed to the level of physicality that the top hurling teams play both at inter county and club level.

That said, referees in the six counties and in Antrim and Down in particular, are much too focused on the old inter club rivalry and feel the necessity to blow for some of the rough and tumble that takes place.

Watching yesterdays game at close quarters, there is no question that the physical aspect of the game among the premiere hurling teams in the country is part and parcel of what is expected within the game at this level. Yesterdays game was "savage" yet entertaining, theres not one of us would deny that.  However, our players and our referees are nowhere near the that standard or capabilty when it comes to playing or marshalling the games such as yesterdays intense showpiece.


Our top refs, such as Elliot, Hassan, Duffy, Mathews, Cunning, Magee etc. in my view feel the focus of the game is more about them than the teams participating.  They are always quick to blow for the slightest hint of physical contact and tend also to anticipate fouls before they actually happen.

Elliot in my view, is probaly the least likely to blow for the menial stuff that occours among our teams here in Antrim
and probably has a greater grasp and understanding that the game is physical.  Other than Elliot, I feel the rest have  alot to learn!

A referee pointed out to me once that the players in Antrim wouldn't accept the slaps that the southern players take for granted and that most games would descend into a bloodbath if they let that kind of stuff go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 11:27:45 PM
I agree Arthur, there would be a full scale riot at every game if they let the hard stuff go.

I refereed a minor game a few weeks back, one of the teams had a player who was only interested in whacking his man, I warned him and ticked him and eventually yellow carded him. A couple of hard hits followed and then one incident descended into a free for all. The managers blamed me for not controlling the game!!

Ya can't win, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Itry and ref the way I would like to see the game played, it's then down to the players to control their emotions. There are some gurny fcukers out there though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 06, 2011, 10:12:03 AM
I know anytime we take our kids to Kilkenny in particular initially they struggle with the amount of timber left in in tackles, looking to the ref to blow for the free which he rarely does. There's nothing vicious about it and when they realise thats the way it is they just get on with it.
But coaches have to INSIST on good discipline. It always turns me to hear coaches saying a player needs a bit of dirt in him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
I see the betting is a lot closer for tomorrows match, William Hill have us at 5/1 and Dunloy at 1/8. A far cry of 1/20 ::)


Noticed Loughgiel are 1/12 and the Town are 6/1


What i would pull for in a match (If i see it)

In a ruck a player pulls both ways

An early pull in the air

A push in the back while going for the ball, managers and players think cause a player has his hand on your back that that's a foul, its not, he has to push him

Playing someones hand when trying to block a ball, sometimes its an accident but still a foul

Players not trying to play the ball, holding or grappling with a player this is the one that gets players/managers annoyed in a game.

And the foul that is daft but players still do it, pulling a jersey, why oh why do they do it???

Technical fouls are simple to call but only if you see it, lifting ball off the ground, again only if you see it.

Three in the hand seems easy but the players pop the ball on the stick so quickly now that it's getting harder to see

If players had respect for the referee and kept quiet regardless of whether they think they are right then the games would be better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 11:27:45 PM
I agree Arthur, there would be a full scale riot at every game if they let the hard stuff go.

I refereed a minor game a few weeks back, one of the teams had a player who was only interested in whacking his man, I warned him and ticked him and eventually yellow carded him. A couple of hard hits followed and then one incident descended into a free for all. The managers blamed me for not controlling the game!!

Ya can't win, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Itry and ref the way I would like to see the game played, it's then down to the players to control their emotions. There are some gurny fcukers out there though

Take it you were the home ref MR  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 06, 2011, 12:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 11:27:45 PM
I agree Arthur, there would be a full scale riot at every game if they let the hard stuff go.

I refereed a minor game a few weeks back, one of the teams had a player who was only interested in whacking his man, I warned him and ticked him and eventually yellow carded him. A couple of hard hits followed and then one incident descended into a free for all. The managers blamed me for not controlling the game!!

Ya can't win, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Try and ref the way I would like to see the game played, it's then down to the players to control their emotions. There are some gurny fcukers out there though

completely agree the reaction from your average club supporter when something is let go, its ridiculous. as for the ref in the all ireland, players from kilkenny,tipp or cork will get away with alot more than a antrim player or any lesser county. sundays game wasn't a classic, theres a thread on another site referring to the game as rugby with sticks due to all the dragging, pulling and pushing on the back that went on.  there are double standards at intercounty level and croke park in there wisdom refuse to acknowledge this, what incentive is there for club refs to perform to a consistant standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2011, 11:27:45 PM
I agree Arthur, there would be a full scale riot at every game if they let the hard stuff go.

I refereed a minor game a few weeks back, one of the teams had a player who was only interested in whacking his man, I warned him and ticked him and eventually yellow carded him. A couple of hard hits followed and then one incident descended into a free for all. The managers blamed me for not controlling the game!!

Ya can't win, dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Itry and ref the way I would like to see the game played, it's then down to the players to control their emotions. There are some gurny fcukers out there though

Take it you were the home ref MR  :P

Only in Dunloy Skull when the home ref makes it into a riot ;)

We need a lot of ex players to do the refereeing in fairness. even if they done it for 3/4 years i believe it would be a benefit to the clubs and maybe improve the hurling/football

This is not to say that a decent club hurler/footballer necessarily is a better referee, like all things he needs training and understand the 'real' rules of the game But managers and players will have, unfortunately more respect for that referee as they will have played against him or watched him play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
QuoteOnly in Dunloy Skull when the home ref makes it into a riot ;)

Indeed :D

When you look at the tackling that went on on Sunday, it was teak tough and borderline (within the rules) as you'd expect it to be but I think the difference is, that the intent on the challenges in the main were not geared towards mameing
the opposition, it was about breaking down attacks with the aim of turning the ball over. Some of the challenges we see up here you can see that the intent is directed primarily towards the player or is just plain bad/lazy tackling. KK in particular are masters in the black arts of defending. In the intense cauldron of AIC hurling, they never seem to panic and make rash blatant challenges that result in easy decisions for the referee to blow. They are totally in control in these moments. They know where the boundaries are and play right up to them. The work they must do to get to that level of control at that intensity has to be respected and copied (if that is possible).

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
QuoteOnly in Dunloy Skull when the home ref makes it into a riot ;)

Indeed :D

When you look at the tackling that went on on Sunday, it was teak tough and borderline (within the rules) as you'd expect it to be but I think the difference is, that the intent on the challenges in the main were not geared towards mameing
the opposition, it was about breaking down attacks with the aim of turning the ball over. Some of the challenges we see up here you can see that the intent is directed primarily towards the player or is just plain bad/lazy tackling. KK in particular are masters in the black arts of defending. In the intense cauldron of AIC hurling, they never seem to panic and make rash blatant challenges that result in easy decisions for the referee to blow. They are totally in control in these moments. They know where the boundaries are and play right up to them. The work they must do to get to that level of control at that intensity has to be respected and copied (if that is possible).

Our senior football team are great at this. They work on this (pressure cookers) every training session where thae man in possession is surrounded by players who are pushing it to the edge. Tough work out and if done right always turns ball over or they hold on the ball to long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
QuoteOnly in Dunloy Skull when the home ref makes it into a riot ;)

Indeed :D

When you look at the tackling that went on on Sunday, it was teak tough and borderline (within the rules) as you'd expect it to be but I think the difference is, that the intent on the challenges in the main were not geared towards mameing
the opposition, it was about breaking down attacks with the aim of turning the ball over. Some of the challenges we see up here you can see that the intent is directed primarily towards the player or is just plain bad/lazy tackling. KK in particular are masters in the black arts of defending. In the intense cauldron of AIC hurling, they never seem to panic and make rash blatant challenges that result in easy decisions for the referee to blow. They are totally in control in these moments. They know where the boundaries are and play right up to them. The work they must do to get to that level of control at that intensity has to be respected and copied (if that is possible).

Total agreement.  That's why I love and admire everything about Kilkenny hurling. Tommy Walsh epitomises everything that Kilkenny hurling is all about.  On the edge all the time and a master at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 06, 2011, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 06, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
QuoteOnly in Dunloy Skull when the home ref makes it into a riot ;)

Indeed :D

When you look at the tackling that went on on Sunday, it was teak tough and borderline (within the rules) as you'd expect it to be but I think the difference is, that the intent on the challenges in the main were not geared towards mameing
the opposition, it was about breaking down attacks with the aim of turning the ball over. Some of the challenges we see up here you can see that the intent is directed primarily towards the player or is just plain bad/lazy tackling. KK in particular are masters in the black arts of defending. In the intense cauldron of AIC hurling, they never seem to panic and make rash blatant challenges that result in easy decisions for the referee to blow. They are totally in control in these moments. They know where the boundaries are and play right up to them. The work they must do to get to that level of control at that intensity has to be respected and copied (if that is possible).

Total agreement.  That's why I love and admire everything about Kilkenny hurling. Tommy Walsh epitomises everything that Kilkenny hurling is all about.  On the edge all the time and a master at it.

Whaaaaaaaaaaa?  The time the ref got hit Walsh swung his stick 4/5 times at head height at Maher & Kelly before hitting the ref.  Thats not on the edge. Its way over it and not hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2011, 03:47:20 PM
There was a wasp on his nose and tommy was trying to swat it away  :)

stolen from afr

You might think Tommy Walsh hurls way over "the edge". I disagree. I see someone who wants the ball as if his life depended on it. Personally is my all time favourite hurler (him and JJ) as his enthusiasm going for a ball has not changed since he first come on the scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 06, 2011, 03:50:16 PM
def agree with a lot of what you are saying milltown. Its a physical game & more needs to be let go.thats why we all love it. can only work though with complete co operation of both players & coaches. danger comes when the prima donnas start going down under the slightest touch. dublins diarmuid connolly got his red v donegal rescinded & rightly so. yeah he pushed his fist towards the player but come on, teak tough donegal man going down from that?? what a joke. the ref is put under too much pressure by the cheats who dive.more red cards for the ladyboy pussies who go down too cheaply. also milltown, the free for blocking a mans hand ; to me this is the most cowardly act on a hurling field & very seldom is it an accident.90% of these are deliberate & mostly come from a player who  is being taken to the cleaners & hoping to really hurt someone. red card all day long
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 06, 2011, 05:52:53 PM
Great debate lads on the refereeing issue, glad I initated it!  I think it is something we really need to take on board at both club and county level.  As some have you have righly pointed out there would appear to be major inconsistencies, however, it really is something our players need to focus on ant attempt to play on the edge.  Referees of course, at club level within the county and at intercounty level, particarly in Ulster are going to have to look at the major inconsistencies in their refereeing.  As Millltown also rightly put, "damned if you do, damned if you dont" some refs just cant win if they let the game go  somewhat!  Slapping, borderline tackles etc etc  are clearly part of the game at the highest level.  We in Antrim do not come any where near that sort of physical intensity the way we play. Does this have implications for coaching, implications for referees, implications for players and supporters a like?  It sure does in my opinion!

Our lads need to appreciate that they need to take the odd knock. Robust, intense and manful tackling in the heat of battle and just get on with it, is the order of the day at the top level!  Do you agree?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2011, 07:21:41 PM

When you look at the tackling that went on on Sunday, it was teak tough and borderline (within the rules) as you'd expect it to be but I think the difference is, that the intent on the challenges in the main were not geared towards mameing
the opposition, it was about breaking down attacks with the aim of turning the ball over. Some of the challenges we see up here you can see that the intent is directed primarily towards the player or is just plain bad/lazy tackling. KK in particular are masters in the black arts of defending. In the intense cauldron of AIC hurling, they never seem to panic and make rash blatant challenges that result in easy decisions for the referee to blow. They are totally in control in these moments. They know where the boundaries are and play right up to them. The work they must do to get to that level of control at that intensity has to be respected and copied (if that is possible).
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Total agreement.  That's why I love and admire everything about Kilkenny hurling. Tommy Walsh epitomises everything that Kilkenny hurling is all about.  On the edge all the time and a master at it.[/quote]

Whaaaaaaaaaaa?  The time the ref got hit Walsh swung his stick 4/5 times at head height at Maher & Kelly before hitting the ref.  Thats not on the edge. Its way over it and not hurling.
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Handbag stuff in my opinion and only highlighted because the ref got accidentally hit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
Hate to harp back to it but at present I would be more than happy if our refs could spot the dangerous fouls and let the petty things go. At the minute we have the opposite happening.

Every club has them, the boy that stands below the ball pulls early pulls low, if someone is catching the ball and gets hit on the hand holding the hurl or on the helmet the man pulling is at least 2-3 feet away from the ball and this is getting going.  >:(

Need the refs to come out to the clubs and talk to the players and managers and get an understanding of what is expected. The players at the moment will not have the discipline to play the game like the AF but if we could take small steps to actually  protect players that would be a start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 07, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Dunloy V St. Galls tonight, any predictions? I'll go for Dunloy by 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 07, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 07, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Dunloy V St. Galls tonight, any predictions? I'll go for Dunloy by 7.

I really think Dunloy is going to win. I think you have to look at the weather does turn and it starts to bucket down St galls are in with a good chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Easy win for Dunloy i think 10 points i think. We have a big match in a couple of weeks time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 07, 2011, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: oisinog on September 07, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 07, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Dunloy V St. Galls tonight, any predictions? I'll go for Dunloy by 7.

I really think Dunloy is going to win. I think you have to look at the weather does turn and it starts to bucket down St galls are in with a good chance
Are you 7?? Get Mammy to double check your posts before you put them on here!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Easy win for Dunloy i think 10 points i think. We have a big match in a couple of weeks time

Trying to influence the spread MR? You crafty dog. Can't see you betting against your own team this time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Easy win for Dunloy i think 10 points i think. We have a big match in a couple of weeks time

Trying to influence the spread MR? You crafty dog. Can't see you betting against your own team this time

I wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
Behave, i warned a big gambler not to bet on any of the games as i thought they'd be closer or a shock would happen. Good luck tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 11:37:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
Behave, i warned a big gambler not to bet on any of the games as i thought they'd be closer or a shock would happen. Good luck tonight

Make up your mind will you  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 07, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
Going to put my neck on the line and say St. Gall's.

Talk of a 'Big 3' in Antrim is very generous to Dunloy.

in what way

Depending on the weather conditions, i go with Dunloy by 10 - 15 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 07, 2011, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 07, 2011, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: oisinog on September 07, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 07, 2011, 08:46:23 AM
Dunloy V St. Galls tonight, any predictions? I'll go for Dunloy by 7.

I really think Dunloy is going to win. I think you have to look at the weather does turn and it starts to bucket down St galls are in with a good chance
Are you 7?? Get Mammy to double check your posts before you put them on here!!

Didnt realise there are English teachers on here. Should you not be at the front of a class rather than on here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 07, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
If Galls bring a hunger - they might just surprise Dunloy again.

Dunloy have some major weak positions in relation to other teams!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 07, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
If Galls bring a hunger - they might just surprise Dunloy again.

Dunloy have some major weak positions in relation to other teams!

Hold on a wee minute

We're not a top table team for nothing. As much as we've had some poor days out this year (St Galls being one of them) we'd be no different that every other club including the "top 2"  :) in that regard. As frustrataing as it's been to watch what looks like half hearted effort from some positions, we didn't become a bad team overnight. All those boys can play when it suits them. Fingers out of arses time. I expect us to show up ready to play, but don't doubt that StGalls will have plenty to bring to the party.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 07, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
If Galls bring a hunger - they might just surprise Dunloy again.

Dunloy have some major weak positions in relation to other teams!

Hold on a wee minute

We're not a top table team for nothing. As much as we've had some poor days out this year (St Galls being one of them) we'd be no different that every other club including the "top 2"  :) in that regard. As frustrataing as it's been to watch what looks like half hearted effort from some positions, we didn't become a bad team overnight. All those boys can play when it suits them. Fingers out of arses time. I expect us to show up ready to play, but don't doubt that StGalls will have plenty to bring to the party.

Stop bitting you!!

Won't be squeaky bum tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
Is anyone going to update the scores on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
Is anyone going to update the scores on here?

Cause I'm not playing anymore I'll be able to throw up some scores for ya, only if we are winning :P

Don't expect any ;)

heard the footballers put in a hard session last night at training, our lads will be shattered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
Is anyone going to update the scores on here?

Cause I'm not playing anymore I'll be able to throw up some scores for ya, only if we are winning :P

Don't expect any ;)

heard the footballers put in a hard session last night at training, our lads will be shattered

Heard certain "internet warrior" from stgalls was trying to lure internet savvy dunloy players into a false sense of security ahead of tonights match.

How can I not bite when you keep posting gloom and doom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
Is anyone going to update the scores on here?

Cause I'm not playing anymore I'll be able to throw up some scores for ya, only if we are winning :P

Don't expect any ;)

heard the footballers put in a hard session last night at training, our lads will be shattered

Heard certain "internet warrior" from stgalls was trying to lure internet savvy dunloy players into a false sense of security ahead of tonights match.

How can I not bite when you keep posting gloom and doom

No games won on here sure. See ya later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
This is getting close.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 07:43:48 PM
St Galls 0-6 Dunloy 0-1 15 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 07, 2011, 07:44:11 PM
sorry but cant see anything but comprehensive win for dunloy. If its pissing or not at least 8pts. the man who said calling dunloy  top 3 team being generous; what planet are you on. played the 'dall 3 times this year , lost 1 & completely wiped the floor with us in the other 2. so by your reckoning generous calling 'dall top 3 as well???  if so then there is only a top 1 in antrim...... the shammrocks???   there is a top 3 alright & like it or not they are a level above anything else in this county. wouldnt like to call it between any of the three of them but like i said the winner can absolutely, definitely only come from one of these. again.......& again....... & again..............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 07, 2011, 07:43:48 PM
St Galls 0-6 Dunloy 0-1 15 mins
Wow!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
0-6 0-3 22 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 07, 2011, 07:54:17 PM
Is there any team playin with the wind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 07:56:37 PM
No wind

0-6 0-4 28 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
0-6 0-5 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Auld stock, do you watch much hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 07, 2011, 08:08:26 PM
Go on St Galls! Bury them in the second half. Would be great for Antrim hurling imo if St Galls got the win. Much quality in the game at all or is the conditions ruining it a bit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
0-8 0-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
0-9 0-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:18:17 PM
0-9 0-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 07, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
How lang is left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
1-10 to 1-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 07, 2011, 08:27:48 PM
Yeeeoooooooowwwwwwwwwww! Well done St Galls, keep it going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 07, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
How lang is left?

15 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 07, 2011, 08:28:40 PM
who got 1st goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:30:03 PM
St Galls were 1-10 to 0-6 very briefly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
1-10 to 1-7 49 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
1-10 to 1-8 53 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 07, 2011, 08:36:09 PM
Aw naw. These jammy bastards are going to get a win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 08:38:05 PM
Jaesus boys, there will be some in Noamh Gall that would be dissapointed if their hurlers win, especially the football contingent to name but a few!!!

Is Noamh Gall now a hurling club?  Just imagine if they actually beat Dunloy!  Look at all those predictions and bets that would be well beaten, amazing indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:42:05 PM
1-10 1-8 60 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 07, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
Any Updates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
St Galls win 1-11 to 1-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 08:48:14 PM
Updates lads. The suspense us killing me  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 07, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
Brilliant. Well done to the St Galls lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 07, 2011, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on September 07, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
Any Updates?
well done st galls ;D   brilliant for hurling!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2011, 08:50:37 PM
a great 15-17 years for Dunloy hurlers. Great champions, but is this the end for them. will they be in serious decline for a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
Jeasus boys!  Harbinson, McGourty Senior and fat PJ will not be too happy about that result.  The SKULL will not be too enamoured either, hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 07, 2011, 08:51:15 PM
Mr2 will be drunk for a week ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 07, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 07, 2011, 07:44:11 PM
sorry but cant see anything but comprehensive win for dunloy. If its pissing or not at least 8pts. the man who said calling dunloy  top 3 team being generous; what planet are you on. played the 'dall 3 times this year , lost 1 & completely wiped the floor with us in the other 2. so by your reckoning generous calling 'dall top 3 as well???  if so then there is only a top 1 in antrim...... the shammrocks???   there is a top 3 alright & like it or not they are a level above anything else in this county. wouldnt like to call it between any of the three of them but like i said the winner can absolutely, definitely only come from one of these. again.......& again....... & again..............

Ha.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 07, 2011, 08:57:48 PM
Great result! Well done St Gall's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 07, 2011, 09:04:07 PM
Big result. Rossa v St Galls Antrim final in 2012.
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Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
St Galls were well worth it, Karl Stewart was outstanding. Dunloy started going for goals very early and their shooting was terrible.  They just don't seem to have the players anymore and when they still have to start Dick O'Kane and Ally Elliott it shows the strength of their bench. Sad way for them to bow out if indeed they do. Not to take away from St Galls though they were the better team.
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Post by: Megaman on September 07, 2011, 09:06:04 PM
Well done St Galls

A major shock, but these happen from time to time in championship.

A worrying sign for the standard of Antrim hurling IMO though.
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Post by: Minder on September 07, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
Jeasus boys!  Harbinson, McGourty Senior and fat PJ will not be too happy about that result.  The SKULL will not be too enamoured either, hehehe  ;D

Why would McGourty senior be unhappy?
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 07, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
Fair play to Galls - thought it had passed them by when they didnt do it the first day.

Result can only be a good one for Belfast and Antrim hurling - time the big 3 saw some competition.

Delighted for all the hurling men in Galls - especially Karl Stewart and our own Milltown Row!!!!!

Is the semi definitely on Sunday evening??
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Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
Most certainly a great case now for moving Rossa and Noamh Gall up to Division One along with Ballycastle based on the two Belfast team's championship performances.

Cant say the same for Noamh Eoin though,   Maybe they should just take the inevitable drop!  ;)
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 07, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 07, 2011, 09:06:04 PM

A worrying sign for the standard of Antrim hurling IMO though.

Why would you say that Megaman - surely it is a good thing for "new" teams to be coming to the fore??
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Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 07, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 08:51:04 PM
Jeasus boys!  Harbinson, McGourty Senior and fat PJ will not be too happy about that result.  The SKULL will not be too enamoured either, hehehe  ;D

Why would McGourty senior be unhappy?
Ah come on, get real!  Did you see his face at the final whistle?  It just would not do for hurling to interfere with his football baby!!!!!!!!  8)
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Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 07, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Got to go lads, my pint of Arthur G is getting warm and a line of them are appearing!!!  ;) ;D
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Post by: the colonel on September 07, 2011, 09:22:57 PM
Serious upset here, hopefully our boys take heed of the warning and are prepared properly for the game on Sunday. Delighted for the Galls hurling men who have battled hard over the years. Karl Stewart is having some year and well deserved. A lovely fella
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Post by: wherefromreferee? on September 07, 2011, 09:23:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 07, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
St Galls were well worth it, Karl Stewart was outstanding. Dunloy started going for goals very early and their shooting was terrible.  They just don't seem to have the players anymore and when they still have to start Dick O'Kane and Ally Elliott it shows the strength of their bench. Sad way for them to bow out if indeed they do. Not to take away from St Galls though they were the better team.

What age are these two men now?
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Post by: wino on September 07, 2011, 09:25:01 PM
St galls v cdall loughgiel 6pm sunday evening. Interesting weekend ahead.
Ally and Dick are both close to 40
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Great result, for lots of reasons!!!!    ;D
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Post by: CiKe on September 07, 2011, 09:54:02 PM
frig me that is brilliant. Well done lads, wasn't sure would ever pull off a scalp like that at senior despite our generation frequently winning titles at underage.  Can anyone post up the Galls team by any chance?

Good luck in the semi!
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Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 10:16:42 PM
Found wanting again tonight and the way St Galls played/the way we played on Sunday I was quite fearful going into the game tonight but thought we'd pull a performance out tonight. On a team wide basis St Galls were both technically and physically better than us over the two games and were more than good value for their win. Our scoring threat didn't really exist. If we'd have looked more dangerous inside we could have won. On that basis I think Cushendall will be too much for them but they'll give them their fill of it.

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Post by: the colonel on September 07, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 07, 2011, 10:16:42 PM
Found wanting again tonight and the way St Galls played/the way we played on Sunday I was quite fearful going into the game tonight but thought we'd pull a performance out tonight. On a team wide basis St Galls were both technically and physically better than us over the two games and were more than good value for their win. Our scoring threat didn't really exist. If we'd have looked more dangerous inside we could have won. On that basis I think Cushendall will be too much for them but they'll give them their fill of it.
St Galls will relish being given no chance again
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Post by: 4father on September 07, 2011, 10:58:58 PM
Well not many called that one  ::)
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Post by: 4father on September 07, 2011, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Fantastic. Well done Naomh Gall. A credit to Belfast GAA.

It must be a worrying time for Dunloy hurling especially as they don't appear to have a great deal coming through.

A credit to themselves I say, Belfast GAA is shite outside 3 or 4 clubs.  The only thing about your second point is that people might have been saying the same about St Galls not having players coming through.  They couldn't have been described as a hurling force at juvenile level for the last 8 years.

I was delighted for your man Jackie (surname escaped me) who was very animated on the line.  A real gentleman and a good hurling man too.  Was delighted for St Galls, they were cuter and were deserving winners.  We should salute Dunloy too though, the great team that they are were.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:16:08 PM
All the lads are out on the lash  colonel, they hit the town after i left the club there. Fair play to, for us to beat one of the big 3, League leaders and County Champions 2 years ago is some achievement.

That was our final and we won't really have it in us to match that again on Sunday, few boys have taken some knocks there and they emptied the bag tonight.

Besides we can't win it as the County Hurling final will be on the Saturday night and the football final the next day. So we'll settle for beating Dunloy and maybe try and push for promotion next year.

Referee was a bit inconsistent for both teams I thought 5 minutes injury was a bit much. Dunloy went for goal too many times, they had better players out there that could have taken points from distance, Shorty was brilliant but he couldn't do it all on his own. That young lad should have started as he would have caused us all sorts of problems (young Elliot) and managed to score the goal straight after us.

I think we still mishandled a lot of ball and with us not training much it showed. Will cause hassle in the club for sure with dual things and I hope we put up a challenge in the semi.

Auld stock is obviously a keen hurling enthusiast, I will take on board his predictions in the future, I will ensure I tell my friends about his  knowledge of the local game and to heed his posts  ;D ;D
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:18:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Great result, for lots of reasons!!!!    ;D

Why? is that because you dislike Dunloy? or something else?
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Post by: gallsman on September 07, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 07, 2011, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Fantastic. Well done Naomh Gall. A credit to Belfast GAA.

It must be a worrying time for Dunloy hurling especially as they don't appear to have a great deal coming through.

A credit to themselves I say, Belfast GAA is shite outside 3 or 4 clubs.  The only thing about your second point is that people might have been saying the same about St Galls not having players coming through.  They couldn't have been described as a hurling force at juvenile level for the last 8 years.

I was delighted for your man Jackie (surname escaped me) who was very animated on the line.  A real gentleman and a good hurling man too.  Was delighted for St Galls, they were cuter and were deserving winners.  We should salute Dunloy too though, the great team that they are were.

Jackie Webb I imagine. Absolutely loves his hurling.

I think the last time we won a minor title was 10 years ago (CiKe's team won the county title right the way up from U10 bar one I think) and teams after that (including my own) were surpassed by the Johnnies and Gort na Mona in Belfast.
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Post by: ruairi on September 07, 2011, 11:36:06 PM
I don't think we will take St Galls lightly. They just beat Dunloy so are obviously able to beat us. They had very good workrate tonight and karl stewart was unreal. Have a few other tidy hurlers there that will cause us trouble. Its giving a wet day so going to be another battle for us but from what i witnessed tonight, they are a better side than Glenarriffe that pushed us all the way last sunday. Approaching with caution.   
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Post by: 4father on September 07, 2011, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 07, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Jackie Webb I imagine. Absolutely loves his hurling.

I think the last time we won a minor title was 10 years ago (CiKe's team won the county title right the way up from U10 bar one I think) and teams after that (including my own) were surpassed by the Johnnies and Gort na Mona in Belfast.

That's the very man, always wearing that baseball cap.  He is to be found at every juvenile tournament in Belfast on Saturday and Sunday mornings.  Always has time for a chat and is so positive that hurling can be changed and improved in the city.  Wish we had more like him, his enthusiasm is palpable.

It just shows you that when the Johnnies and in the past as you mentioned, Gortnamona, can boast about juvenile championships and being the best under 12/14/16 team, its a really good club that keep developing and producing hurlers when their juvenile success is limited.  I take my hat of to St Galls. A very good club
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Post by: Fairhead on September 08, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
I guess like a lot of other people i expected Dunloy to pull through tonight after the shock for them of the drawn game. So fair play to St Galls and those 2 games against Dunloy will be of enormous benefit to them going in to the C'dall match. Now i just need to find that Paddy Power docket from before the championship with the St Galls Ballycastle final on it!  :P
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Post by: ruairi on September 08, 2011, 12:29:29 AM
Fairhead im sure there would have been good odds on that at the start of championship. With bad weather expected at the weekend nothing can be ruled out.
 
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 08, 2011, 06:11:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:16:08 PM
All the lads are out on the lash  colonel, they hit the town after i left the club there. Fair play to, for us to beat one of the big 3, League leaders and County Champions 2 years ago is some achievement.

That was our final and we won't really have it in us to match that again on Sunday, few boys have taken some knocks there and they emptied the bag tonight.

Besides we can't win it as the County Hurling final will be on the Saturday night and the football final the next day. So we'll settle for beating Dunloy and maybe try and push for promotion next year.

Referee was a bit inconsistent for both teams I thought 5 minutes injury was a bit much. Dunloy went for goal too many times, they had better players out there that could have taken points from distance, Shorty was brilliant but he couldn't do it all on his own. That young lad should have started as he would have caused us all sorts of problems (young Elliot) and managed to score the goal straight after us.

I think we still mishandled a lot of ball and with us not training much it showed. Will cause hassle in the club for sure with dual things and I hope we put up a challenge in the semi.

Auld stock is obviously a keen hurling enthusiast, I will take on board his predictions in the future, I will ensure I tell my friends about his  knowledge of the local game and to heed his posts  ;D ;D
They won't finish like that.    ;)

Great victory non the less. Probably more of a shock than the Rossa victory a few years ago. What odds a St. Galls double?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 08, 2011, 06:17:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:18:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Great result, for lots of reasons!!!!    ;D

Why? is that because you dislike Dunloy? or something else?
It's certainly one of  the reasons. :)

Seriously, I think a victory like this, against any of the so called "big 3", injects fresh impetus into the championship. Hopefully, as you say, you can push on from this and maybe even get to and win the final. It's not beyond the realms of possibility. Or, perhaps on a more down to earth line of thought, push on and gain promotion to division one and stay there.  And if you can do that why not Rossa and the johnnies? If Sarsfields can keep their group of talented youngsters together who knows what they might achieve. I'd love to see hurling back to the fore in Belfast. It can only be a good thing for hurling in Antrim.


On another tangent, I've just been informed that if Cloughmills win on Sunday they will be in the senior championship next year. Is this a fact or is my mate having a laugh?
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Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
Cloughmills would have the choice to play SHCnext year if they win IHC on Sunday, though I actually think anyone can choose which competition they play in

Absolutely gutted about last, over the 2 games we can have few complaints, I actually felt we were slightly better last night and lost the game by going for goals much too early

St Galls had savage work rate, we didn't match it and will spend the winter having a long hard look at where we go as a team from here. 

Good luck to St Galls in the semi final
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Post by: saffron sam2 on September 08, 2011, 08:05:14 AM
Super win for St Gall's, but Matron ..

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2011, 11:16:08 PM
That was our final and we won't really have it in us to match that again on Sunday, few boys have taken some knocks there and they emptied the bag tonight.
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Post by: Megaman on September 08, 2011, 09:34:42 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 07, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 07, 2011, 09:06:04 PM

A worrying sign for the standard of Antrim hurling IMO though.

Why would you say that Megaman - surely it is a good thing for "new" teams to be coming to the fore??

cause IMHO it is has been a case of the top 2 gradually dropping in standard, not the others getting better.

But all credit to St Galls, well done and hope they can push on from this win.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
Top two!! Having a laugh. Dunloy must been dropping standards for years then if thats the case. county champions for a right few years while Loughgiel won nowt!!
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Post by: Megaman on September 08, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
Top two!! Having a laugh. Dunloy must been dropping standards for years then if thats the case. county champions for a right few years while Loughgiel won nowt!!

i thought it was obvious i was talking about Dunloy & Cushendall, those two where the top 2 for years and as i said in my post having been dropping in standard for a number of years now.

loughgiel IMO havent got any better, those two have got worse - just my opinion though.

but also Dunloy are far from gone just yet, last nights result doesnt make them a bad team all of a sudden.
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Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 08, 2011, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 08, 2011, 06:17:07 AM


On another tangent, I've just been informed that if Cloughmills win on Sunday they will be in the senior championship next year. Is this a fact or is my mate having a laugh?

A Cloughmills Dunloy or Cloughmills Loughgiel match in the first round of the senior championship next year would be a sight that I dont think anyone could honestly say they would have ever foreseen!!!

That said, Lamh Dhearg must be strong enough favourites for the intermediate title on Sunday.
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Post by: DearyMe on September 08, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
What a victory!
Why oh why did Dunloy panic with 12/13 to go on the clock? and only 2 behind??????

why? because when galls got their goal, the old panic set in big time - a realization that they actually werent going to win. They  really needed the wise heads at this time.
A missed free from stand side 35mtr was uncharacteristic, then two missed 65s to follow.
They seemed to (dare i say it) 'bottle' it!

Me thinks that the shackles could be off this galls team now! You might just see an even better team turn up v dall!


but as MR2 said - lads are probably on the sauce!!! ;D
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Post by: pdiddy on September 08, 2011, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 08, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
What a victory!
Why oh why did Dunloy panic with 12/13 to go on the clock? and only 2 behind??????

why? because when galls got their goal, the old panic set in big time - a realization that they actually werent going to win. They  really needed the wise heads at this time.
A missed free from stand side 35mtr was uncharacteristic, then two missed 65s to follow.
They seemed to (dare i say it) 'bottle' it!

Me thinks that the shackles could be off this galls team now! You might just see an even better team turn up v dall!


but as MR2 said - lads are probably on the sauce!!! ;D

Unfortunately for Dunloy they dont have any/many of those in the current squad.  Players like Dick, Big Mal, Liam R, Damian McM, Gareth M who played in the team that won 2 years ago haven't been replaced.

Looking at last nights team according to the Antrim Website I'd have to say its a weak side.

But here, lets not take anything away from what was a fantastic result for St Galls. Congratulations to them. 
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Post by: BlackandAmber on September 08, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
Well done St Galls.  A great result no matter what way you look at it. Where is Auld laughing Stock?  ;D

Dunloy have slipped a bit but they were in top 2 for the last 20 years. That takes some doing and they done a lot for Antrim hurling so lets hope they get it back together soon.

I'm told Ballycastle won the Championship one time when they were in Div 2. What odds on a Div 2 final?  :D

Not that I think thats likely but you can always hope.  The Town website has a report on the ST Johns game and it says that Steven McGarry, Pinky, and James McLister are out injured. I hear the butcher boy is back thouhg so thats something.
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Post by: auld stock on September 08, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
well dip me in vinegar & call me a fish supper!!! wouldnt have seen that coming with a telescope.fair play milltown credit where its due. i know your're waiting for my predictions so here goes. senior final is to be competed by two div 2 teams this year the 'town & st galls......... but as you said mill what do i know about it - yeah thats right fcuk all!!!!  seriously though, well done on a great result
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 09:59:04 AM
Just heard that Cushendall have ordered polo tops for the final!! FFS lads ;)

If Dunloy had have been playing one of the other teams, like Loughgiel, Ballycastle or Cushendall I think they would have put in a better performance, very difficult to get going against a team that everyone thinks you should hammer. (Just my view of course)

We have no real history with Dunloy so the games don't have that major edge to them. I'd say there was not that many major tackles in the game and certainly no dirt. I have always had massive respect for Dunloy in their approach to games and how serious they take their Gaelic games. They prepared to beat us and win the Championship this year no doubt. We eventually came through with two games were we showed potential but sustaining that is very difficult on two fronts.

In all honesty we go into this game with no fear, we have managed to beat one of the big teams in Ireland, yes maybe they have some miles on the clock and some inexperienced youngsters but they have repeatedly beaten teams in Antrim for the past 15 years and I hope they continue to raise the bar in hurling.

I organised a friendly in Mullingar (to watch the Dunloy game) one year when Dunloy were playing Mount Sion. We played our game and Dunloy came out to train on the pitch afterwards. The intensity to it was unreal and left our lads in no doubt who was going to win the match and where we needed to be.

Can't wait till Sunday and i hope our lads who have some knocks and couple who have had colds of late are ready for a battle and leave nothing behind.
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Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2011, 10:05:37 AM
MR2 nice try but you'll not catch us out with that kind of chat lol ;)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2011, 10:05:37 AM
MR2 nice try but you'll not catch us out with that kind of chat lol ;)

No games won on a discussion board JJ. William Hill have ya' big favourites and they usually get it right, so don't worry there.

Your first touch is far superior to ours and with Cushendall not winning 'Big ears' in a few years they will be well up for it. So hunger won't be lacking. Seems to be all in you're favour
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2011, 11:12:04 AM
Just heard that Cushendall have ordered polo tops for the final!! FFS lads

dont panic mr2 if they do get buy you guys theres no way they will be allowed to take to feild in the final riding horses. i say the polo shirts are just for wearing pre-match.

thanks for the compliments about dunloy, that was some era for our club. these are dark days for us now, not much coming through either. but some of those players you seen in mullingar that are retired are now starting to coach our kids,  guys with 8,9,10 county medals and you woud never hear them mention it, still doing there bit. time to start building from the ground up again as see what happens. good luck against the dall and ffs stop with '' we havent got a chance'' stuff. yours players are in bonus territory now and go out and throw some kitchen sinks. all the pressure on the dall
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Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
Hahaha your some craic MR2. William Hill weren't so smart on Wednesday night. We'll not be taking you boys lightly.
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Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2011, 11:50:37 AM
Stop biting will youse (eh MR)  ;)
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2011, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 08, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
Well done St Galls.  A great result no matter what way you look at it. Where is Auld laughing Stock?  ;D

Dunloy have slipped a bit but they were in top 2 for the last 20 years. That takes some doing and they done a lot for Antrim hurling so lets hope they get it back together soon.

I'm told Ballycastle won the Championship one time when they were in Div 2. What odds on a Div 2 final?  :D

Not that I think thats likely but you can always hope.  The Town website has a report on the ST Johns game and it says that Steven McGarry, Pinky, and James McLister are out injured. I hear the butcher boy is back thouhg so thats something.

Just confirmed with the Rossa past glories association (lol!) that they also were in Div1B when they won the championship in 2004!
I think this says more about our leagues than anything else. For example, St Galls magnificent victory, Ballycastle beat a Div1 team, and Rossa ran current county champions close. These are all Div2 teams and possibly excepting the Town they havent given the league the full monty if u know what I mean - granted Rossa and Galls have greater number of dual players. I think its time to think structures BUT ALSO time for these teams to think priorities!
Anyway, much I would love to see Galls beat Ruarais I cant see it - so a repeat of last years final? Oh no wait, the Town just might have one up their sleeve! Interesting times!
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2011, 12:03:17 PM
One other thing as Colombo might say - what is the feeling for the outlook in Dunloy? I have to see not only a hurling team but a club I admire!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 12:20:26 PM
I'm only taking the piss lads.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
Minor finals tonight, any predictions? I'll go for Rossa and Cushendall
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Post by: Sleeping giant on September 09, 2011, 01:08:07 PM
Hard to look past dall in minors.  Going for dall by 8 on sunday Shamrocks by 6
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Post by: JamesH on September 09, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
Mr2 well done in a great result v Dunloy on wed night, i did say even after the minor match that you had some cracking hurlers. I hope we show up with our A game on Sunday night or we'll be in deep trouble, as Galls have a very strong mobile team. With us having quite a few injuries and the bad weather forcast it will be anybodies game, but i expect a 4 point win.
The minor match is a tough call with the johnnies clear favourites, the one thing i will say about our boys is that with the talented squad we have the most important factor is that we have a great will to win which will cause the johnnies problems. I'm very disappointed that Rosa went into div 2 just to win a trophy, its hardly the ambitious attitude for a big club, or fair on genuine div 2 teams. The word is they have only five minors , were we will have a huge 8 minors on tonight, and we will have only 4 next year should we go to div 2? no chance our club wouldn't allow it and rightly so. it would have done them no harm as their u16s are in the County final against who? yep Ruairi Ogs.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 02:58:01 PM
That assessment was based on the games i refereed them, they didn't have their talented under 16's playing in those games, so based on that then it was a good call. Keep us updated on the games. Johnnies by 8 to make it a horrible weekend for the Dall! lol
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Post by: auld stock on September 09, 2011, 03:45:16 PM
Johnnies would def start tonights game as fav as they have won everything b4 from u12 up. 2 years ago beat 'dall u16's by 25 pts.having said that it has the makings to be one the best minor finals in years as they are both really cracking teams.past form out the window on this one & although i hope our boys come out the right end i honestly believe that there is nothing between the two teams. so "milltown" on that basis & taking into account my "grasp of the local game" that would put the johnnies out the gate, home & hosed by about 15pts!!!! lol. seriously though i hope this game is a real cracker . good luck to both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 05:43:31 PM
McManus injured and not playing on Sunday?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
Not true though they havent trained well i hear!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 09, 2011, 07:18:19 PM
Good luck on Sunday MR.  Have youse been hiding all year to ambush the Championship?  ;D  be something to get to both finals. But I can't see it.  I reckon the Dall will be well warned and have too much for youse.
And I can't see anything but a Div 1 final. The Town's defence is good and without Watson Loughgiel will have plenty to do but Loughgiel's defence will have not too many problems with teh Towns attack specielly without Pinky and McGarry. The Town's biggest problem is midfeild and I think Loughgiel will win it there.
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Post by: Fairhead on September 09, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Yeah Loughgiel favs too for me. They are the champions after all and have huge experience at the semi final stage. 10 years since we got to the county final and have a long enough unavailable and injured list making the squad very stretched.

In saying that we have put in 2 decent performances in last 2 years when exiting the championship (2 and 3 point defeats to Dunloy and C'dall respectively) so hopeful of a strong performance. Did beat L'giel in the semi in 2001 right enough......
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Post by: BlackandAmber on September 09, 2011, 08:17:10 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 09, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Yeah Loughgiel favs too for me. They are the champions after all and have huge experience at the semi final stage. 10 years since we got to the county final and have a long enough unavailable and injured list making the squad very stretched.

In saying that we have put in 2 decent performances in last 2 years when exiting the championship (2 and 3 point defeats to Dunloy and C'dall respectively) so hopeful of a strong performance. Did beat L'giel in the semi in 2001 right enough......

10 years is too long never mind how long since we won one but without Pinky's experience and his and McGarry's hurling brains we'll struggle. Cossy can't do it all on his own and our midfeild just not strong enough. Light a candle and hope for bad weather and a low scoring game. We might sneak it.  ;D
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Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
St Johns 1-5 CDall 0-2 19 mins
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Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
1-9 to 0-3 HT
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Post by: Forever Green on September 09, 2011, 09:30:14 PM
Any more updates on the Minor game?

Rossa won the B championship with a 2-18 to 5-8 win over St Pauls
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Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 09:34:45 PM
1-15 to 2-7 FT
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Post by: Forever Green on September 09, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Cheers Minder.Good win for St Johns. Got their revenge for last year then. Hopefully they can actually develop this talent into a senior side who will be competing at the top
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Post by: johnneycool on September 09, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 09, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Cheers Minder.Good win for St Johns. Got their revenge for last year then. Hopefully they can actually develop this talent into a senior side who will be competing at the top

I was surprised that the Johnnies didn't put out a reserve team on the back of this good minor team. It's a good standard with little dirt in it, ideal for young lads. If only I could get some more of our lazy minors to partake more often.


As for Dunloy after watching them this year, barring shorty they're still relying on the Richmonds and horse to pull the strings in the forwards. Horse has looked after himself but you lose a yard of speed no matter how fit you are as the years pile on. Ally has had a superb innings and should have left it at that. One of the best forwards I've had the displeasure of meeting in my time.

Dunloy will need to rebuild and it'll take time and a lot of effort. The team they had throught the mid 90's and early 00's was one of the best club teams in Ireland, just didn't get that bit of luck to get them over the final hurdle.

Cushendall didn't impress me when we were up there a few weeks ago and if we'd taken our chances, our No11 in particular we'd have won. McManus will make a huge difference to them and they'll go a lot harder in championship but I think big Carson in fullback is for the taking if the right man and ball make it in there.
Don't know a whole pile about the galls as its been a few years since we've been up in Milltown, but they're a mobile outfit who normally use the ball well so they're in with a shout.

MR,
what age is GaGa now as I remember him in my day?

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Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 09, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 09, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
Cheers Minder.Good win for St Johns. Got their revenge for last year then. Hopefully they can actually develop this talent into a senior side who will be competing at the top

I was surprised that the Johnnies didn't put out a reserve team on the back of this good minor team. It's a good standard with little dirt in it, ideal for young lads. If only I could get some more of our lazy minors to partake more often.


As for Dunloy after watching them this year, barring shorty they're still relying on the Richmonds and horse to pull the strings in the forwards. Horse has looked after himself but you lose a yard of speed no matter how fit you are as the years pile on. Ally has had a superb innings and should have left it at that. One of the best forwards I've had the displeasure of meeting in my time.

Dunloy will need to rebuild and it'll take time and a lot of effort. The team they had throught the mid 90's and early 00's was one of the best club teams in Ireland, just didn't get that bit of luck to get them over the final hurdle.

Cushendall didn't impress me when we were up there a few weeks ago and if we'd taken our chances, our No11 in particular we'd have won. McManus will make a huge difference to them and they'll go a lot harder in championship but I think big Carson in fullback is for the taking if the right man and ball make it in there.
Don't know a whole pile about the galls as its been a few years since we've been up in Milltown, but they're a mobile outfit who normally use the ball well so they're in with a shout.

MR,
what age is GaGa now as I remember him in my day?

He was on crutches at the minor match tonight.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
32 ish I think, but a flying machine who has lost none of his pace.

St Johns game went as i had imagined, I refereed the Johnnies this year (have ref'd them last couple) and i thought they were      outstanding, Quality in nearly all their positions. Hard to beat and good team work. Up to Jonty now to take this team onto senior and see what he can do.



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Post by: Minder on September 09, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
32 ish I think, but a flying machine who has lost none of his pace.

St Johns game went as i had imagined, I refereed the Johnnies this year (have ref'd them last couple) and i thought they were      outstanding, Quality in nearly all their positions. Hard to beat and good team work. Up to Jonty now to take this team onto senior and see what he can do.

Do you still think McManus is not injured?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 10:26:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 09, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
32 ish I think, but a flying machine who has lost none of his pace.

St Johns game went as i had imagined, I refereed the Johnnies this year (have ref'd them last couple) and i thought they were      outstanding, Quality in nearly all their positions. Hard to beat and good team work. Up to Jonty now to take this team onto senior and see what he can do.

Do you still think McManus is not injured?

Just heard, strange one alright, must have happened at training, will only galvanise Cushendall more i think
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Post by: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Tactically outplayed tonight unfortunately, when you look at the final score and the goal chances we missed then we possibly/ should have won which would have been tough on the johnnies. Some really nice hurlers but our boys weren't allowed or didn't themselves hurl to their potential.


It's well seeing this team has been brought through as a strong unit and know exactly what their plan is. How this will progress at senior level will be the test and will be quite difficult. I have no doubt MJ will want the johnnies senior job but when will he take it?
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2011, 11:14:48 PM
Sure jonty has been taking johnnies seniors for several years now! He might not be wearing the bainisteoir bib but he calls the shots on EVERY johnnies hurling team! Interesting to see if they bring these young lads thru to senior.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Tactically outplayed tonight unfortunately, when you look at the final score and the goal chances we missed then we possibly/ should have won which would have been tough on the johnnies. Some really nice hurlers but our boys weren't allowed or didn't themselves hurl to their potential.


It's well seeing this team has been brought through as a strong unit and know exactly what their plan is. How this will progress at senior level will be the test and will be quite difficult. I have no doubt MJ will want the johnnies senior job but when will he take it?

Yes heard ya had about five goal chances, why not stick a couple over and keep scoreboard ticking over? Ya had them down to 5 points at one point!! Can be the downfall of some teams.....
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Post by: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
One was a penalty and there must have been about at least 5 point blank misses/ saves by their keeper. Very frustrating it was go watch but fair play to the boys for the effort the last couple of years. Our best in my opinion tonight was Ronan McGrady, here's going he knocks the football on the head!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
One was a penalty and there must have been about at least 5 point blank misses/ saves by their keeper. Very frustrating it was go watch but fair play to the boys for the effort the last couple of years. Our best in my opinion tonight was Ronan McGrady, here's going he knocks the football on the head!

Soccer???
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 02:09:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Tactically outplayed tonight unfortunately, when you look at the final score and the goal chances we missed then we possibly/ should have won which would have been tough on the johnnies. Some really nice hurlers but our boys weren't allowed or didn't themselves hurl to their potential.


It's well seeing this team has been brought through as a strong unit and know exactly what their plan is. How this will progress at senior level will be the test and will be quite difficult. I have no doubt MJ will want the johnnies senior job but when will he take it?

Yes heard ya had about five goal chances, why not stick a couple over and keep scoreboard ticking over? Ya had them down to 5 points at one point!! Can be the downfall of some teams.....
You're a bit of a shite stirrer MR2!   :)
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Post by: maxpower on September 10, 2011, 07:48:26 AM
Thought that was possibly a sly dig at ourselves!

With regards this weekends games, the St Galls full back did an excellent job bottling up Paddy Richmond who is key to our success, can he have the same impact against McManus, that's a huge ask.

St Galls do have savage work rate, and they are winners so when it comes to the crunch if
They are there or thereabouts they won't be found wanting

Cushendall by 8

Ballycastle will need goals to win, can't see there forwards out pointing the shamrocks, two good defences, wet conditions, and a tight pitch should ensure a close game but Loughgiel should win the middle battle too give their forwards more opportunities

Loughgiel by 4-6
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:10:30 AM
Good assessment Max, was Burkey a county footballer who bottled up Paddy. He's very strong and fit so if Neil plays up front he would be my choice to mark him. The Dall though can still score. Shane is a great player who can score from any position. Could see one of the teams having a man sent off, i hope its not us.
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Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2011, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
One was a penalty and there must have been about at least 5 point blank misses/ saves by their keeper. Very frustrating it was go watch but fair play to the boys for the effort the last couple of years. Our best in my opinion tonight was Ronan McGrady, here's going he knocks the football on the head!

Soccer???

No he plays for St Brigids, was captain of minor footballers til injury I think and he got a colleges football allstar this year. Has potential to make a good senior hurler if he can juggle things properly.
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Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Well done St. Johns on winning the minor championship. They were clinical when they were in front of goal. We are gutted about the loss, we created far more chances than St. Johns, we missed 5 or 6 clear cut goal chances and another 5 or 6 long range frees. It just wasn't to be. Also well done Mark O' Neill, refereed very well, let the game flow and the greatest compliment you could give him was he was hardly noticed during the game.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Well done St. Johns on winning the minor championship. They were clinical when they were in front of goal. We are gutted about the loss, we created far more chances than St. Johns, we missed 5 or 6 clear cut goal chances and another 5 or 6 long range frees. It just wasn't to be. Also well done Mark O' Neill, refereed very well, let the game flow and the greatest compliment you could give him was he was hardly noticed during the game.

Good to see the referee getting praise for a change.
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 10, 2011, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 09, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
One was a penalty and there must have been about at least 5 point blank misses/ saves by their keeper. Very frustrating it was go watch but fair play to the boys for the effort the last couple of years. Our best in my opinion tonight was Ronan McGrady, here's going he knocks the football on the head!

Soccer???


Football for St brigids Belfast & hurling for cushendall? Please explain!

No he plays for St Brigids, was captain of minor footballers til injury I think and he got a colleges football allstar this year. Has potential to make a good senior hurler if he can juggle things properly.
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Oh my apologies I messed up that - football for St brigids Belfast & hurling for cushendall? Please explain?!
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Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
Well done St. Johns on winning the minor championship. They were clinical when they were in front of goal. We are gutted about the loss, we created far more chances than St. Johns, we missed 5 or 6 clear cut goal chances and another 5 or 6 long range frees. It just wasn't to be. Also well done Mark O' Neill, refereed very well, let the game flow and the greatest compliment you could give him was he was hardly noticed during the game.

Good to see the referee getting praise for a change.

I thought the ref was good but he did miss a very dirty & cowardly stroke by the St Johns midfielder on the last puc out. Everyone in Casement saw it, the ref saw it too but didn't think it was a foul. The Cushendall player was lucky he wasn't wrecked.
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Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2011, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Oh my apologies I messed up that - football for St brigids Belfast & hurling for cushendall? Please explain?!

Family have had a holiday home in cushendall for years and I think he's played for us since u14.

That strike by the st johns midfielder was an absolute disgrace, could see it coming a mile away. Was right in front of ref and the linesman. Real dirty act as you said Minder.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
This is getting close. Butterflies in stomach time!!!!
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
Any posts or tweets from armoy. Castle make fight of it early but shamrocks score enough to pull away late on. Can't see 30 men on pitch at end.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 02:10:46 PM
I'll be there. I'll keep yous updated.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 02:56:56 PM
Just arrived. There's a fierce cross field breeze.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 03:46:54 PM
What's been happening in the first quarter?
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Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2011, 04:05:34 PM
Not at the game but I hear loughgiel are 6 up at the half
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 04:07:45 PM
So we are playing Loughgiel then!
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Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2011, 04:10:11 PM
Now now MR the town aren't out of it yet
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Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 04:33:01 PM
Hippy Donnelly sent off.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 05:09:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 04:33:01 PM
Hippy Donnelly sent off.

That's an up hill struggle, when your best player gets the line it more or less impossible. Loughgiel to get 2 in a row?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
Loughgiel win 1-18 to 0-07 no data coverage!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
Loughgiel win 1-18 to 0-07 no data coverage!

Big score and will be big favourites for the final now. Windy but sunny conditions?

Who will the get this year? Munster champions?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 05:30:14 PM
They missed a hatful as well PJ said he stopped counting at 22 wides!.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 05:30:14 PM
They missed a hatful as well PJ said he stopped counting at 22 wides!.

That's a lot of possession in fairness, Obviously playing clever ball and fit by the sounds of it. Ah well, now you can sit back and watch the game tomorrow knowing that you are already there.

Notice PJ down at the sevens, he's lost a wile amount of weight. is he looking on the team?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 05:43:36 PM
Funnily enough he's standing beside me now. He's playing with the z squad. He's lost just over 5 stone.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
That's great, always a good player and goalkeeper.
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Post by: Buswhacker on September 10, 2011, 06:00:04 PM
Ballycastle outclassed and resorted to dirty tactics,but paid the cost.A far cry from the great Town teams of yesteryear.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:21:38 PM
I'm in the Bridge atm. Funnily enough nobody wants to talk about hurling, except Woody snr.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.
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Post by: BlackandAmber on September 10, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
1-17 to 0-7 There were 2 sending offs.  Hippy and Matthew Donnelly.  made a difference to the scoreline but not the result.  Loughgil were going to win it moved better off the ball and used the ball well. The Town were disappointing and how the midfeild pair weren't changed till it was nearly over was unbelievable. As for dirty tactics Loughgiel were doin all the slappin in he first half. Duffy let it go. McCloskey should have been red carded for a head strike but Duffy only booked him.  Skinner was slappin late and dirty all game.  He gave Neal McAuley a dirty slap as Neal came out and hippy put the shoulder to him and he went down like a sack of sh1te. Matthew stood his ground and got a red card.  what did Duffy expect? let himself get tramped? Duffy on that is a bollix of a ref and different from SIE I'd give him 4/10.
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Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
Re the sending offs .........Myopic opinion there BandA
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Post by: Buswhacker on September 10, 2011, 07:29:51 PM
No matter what way you try to dress it up,sending a player to hospital in an ambulance is nothing to be proud of. The players that were sent of deserved it,thuggery like they displayed has no part in the game and has to be punished.
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Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !
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Post by: pdiddy on September 10, 2011, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 10, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
1-17 to 0-7 There were 2 sending offs.  Hippy and Matthew Donnelly.  made a difference to the scoreline but not the result.  Loughgil were going to win it moved better off the ball and used the ball well. The Town were disappointing and how the midfeild pair weren't changed till it was nearly over was unbelievable. As for dirty tactics Loughgiel were doin all the slappin in he first half. Duffy let it go. McCloskey should have been red carded for a head strike but Duffy only booked him.  Skinner was slappin late and dirty all game.  He gave Neal McAuley a dirty slap as Neal came out and hippy put the shoulder to him and he went down like a sack of sh1te. Matthew stood his ground and got a red card.  what did Duffy expect? let himself get tramped? Duffy on that is a bollix of a ref and different from SIE I'd give him 4/10.

Skinner had to go to hospital in an ambulance after the game ffs. Wise up.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 10, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
1-17 to 0-7 There were 2 sending offs.  Hippy and Matthew Donnelly.  made a difference to the scoreline but not the result.  Loughgil were going to win it moved better off the ball and used the ball well. The Town were disappointing and how the midfeild pair weren't changed till it was nearly over was unbelievable. As for dirty tactics Loughgiel were doin all the slappin in he first half. Duffy let it go. McCloskey should have been red carded for a head strike but Duffy only booked him.  Skinner was slappin late and dirty all game.  He gave Neal McAuley a dirty slap as Neal came out and hippy put the shoulder to him and he went down like a sack of sh1te. Matthew stood his ground and got a red card.  what did Duffy expect? let himself get tramped? Duffy on that is a bollix of a ref and different from SIE I'd give him 4/10.
Your team were a disgrace in the second half. Yes, there were slaps, there always are! What about the slap around Tony's head in the first half which split him? On the brow no less!!!!

Your two men got sent off for cowardly attacks from behind and the side when the Loughgiel players weren't expecting it , and in the first case couldn't have known because it was from behind.  Big brave man that one!

I tell you what, I'll set you a challenge. You name the time and the  place and I'll charge you from behind without any warning and see if you go down like a "pile of shite" as you so eloquently put it.

Are you really trying to justify an attack from behind? Did you not see the f****in ambulance taking him away? You really need to sit down and take a deep breath. Your team are disgrace to your colours.

Perhaps your colours should really be Black and yellow!

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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !

He'll not be doing the final ;)
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Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
People in glass houses...I seen loose play on both sides
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 07:50:44 PM
Seems to be the case nowadays when a team has lost the game that they descend into dirt. Our kids did it last time out and the Club has held interviews with all players, not only the minors but anyone that has received a straight red card. It has to be stamped out. (EXCUSE THE PUN)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2011, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 07:50:44 PM
Seems to be the case nowadays when a team has lost the game that they descend into dirt. Our kids did it last time out and the Club has held interviews with all players, not only the minors but anyone that has received a straight red card. It has to be stamped out. (EXCUSE THE PUN)
Average
Look forward to that one you tell about your footballers having a seriously heavy training session the day before hurling championship game. Its class  :)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
They did, but tomorrow they are training at Barnets Park!! Seriously steep hills and sprints. Places on that team are fierce in fairness, Any slackness will result in being dropped!!

Ain't pissing down your leg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2011, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
You name the time and the  place and I'll charge you from behind without any warning and see if you go down like a "pile of shite" as you so eloquently put it.
Contradictory?
no. At least he'd have warning of the time and the place.
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Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 08:11:19 PM
Skull - Is Liam Richmond retired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:13:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
People in glass houses...I seen loose play on both sides
Did you see a shoulder charge from behind  with a 5 yard run up without warning from a Loughgiel player that ended up with a Ballycastle player being carted off the field on a stretcher and then being transported to a hospital via ambulance?

No, you didn't. No argument to be had. Just for once let your chip on your shoulder slide off for a minute and see it for what it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !
Ballycastle/Dunloy/Cushendall supporter per chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !

He'll not be doing the final ;)
RM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 10, 2011, 08:18:56 PM
SIE, you need to take a few deep breaths.  Sounds like you're as excited now as you would have been at the game.

You got the result you wanted, enjoy it ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !
Ballycastle/Dunloy/Cushendall supporter per chance?


Emm, none of the above.

Paranoid much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 10, 2011, 08:33:30 PM
You'd think these Loch gCaol men would be happy with a win wouldn't ye?

Well balanced chip on both shoulders
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2011, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I would like to add that I thought Garrett Duffy played a blinder today. He reffed the way we would all like to see our refs referring. I'd give him a 9/10.

My mate was at it and reckoned he was terrible !
Ballycastle/Dunloy/Cushendall supporter per chance?

Look people can watch just cause they like hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
No chips on shoulders in Loughgiel, Mr. Moore has been a member of our parish.

Fact remains, Ballycastle turned dirty. But then they always were, the difference is that years ago they had talent to back it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on September 10, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
No chips on shoulders in Loughgiel, Mr. Moore has been a member of our parish.

Fact remains, Ballycastle turned dirty. But then they always were, the difference is that years ago they had talent to back it up.

and what about Tinkle & Tart back in the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 10, 2011, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 10, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
No chips on shoulders in Loughgiel, Mr. Moore has been a member of our parish.

Fact remains, Ballycastle turned dirty. But then they always were, the difference is that years ago they had talent to back it up.

and what about Tinkle & Tart back in the day

f**k that's one from the vaults  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
Former county players. Thay never broke a referees jaw on the field right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 10, 2011, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
Former county players. They never broke a referees jaw on the field right enough.
SIE, relax man, got the result, good news is skinner has all clear, Ive hurled with and against cormac, am sure it was heat of moment and no major harm intended, this game will hopefully stand to us in final as am sure either st galls or Dall will be 'walking in' 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
Thank God for that. Time to enjoy my pints!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on September 10, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
Pound Time.

I have it on good authority that 'The Pound' is so called because you will 'get pounded' by the locals there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:06:39 PM
this type of pounding?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgEUTsWk24sW_ERUbZ0XZ4U6hVY1yCXNUUYm_kbB13J1ex5rlIBQ)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 10, 2011, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
No chips on shoulders in Loughgiel, Mr. Moore has been a member of our parish.

Fact remains, Ballycastle turned dirty. But then they always were, the difference is that years ago they had talent to back it up.

Oh FFS ive heard it all now. Anybody reading this would think Ballycastle were beating up altar boys today. There was some slapping in the 1st half from L'giel; they got away with it (id say the ref will be guaranteed the co final now with that 1st half performance unless his pesky club mates mess it up for him tommorow) and Ballycastle players were righly punished for their indiscretions in the 2nd half. We were very poor and the best team won so dont be coming on here spouting utter garbage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 10, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
Pound Time.

I have it on good authority that 'The Pound' is so called because you will 'get pounded' by the locals there?
I don't drink in the pound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:10:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:06:39 PM
this type of pounding?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgEUTsWk24sW_ERUbZ0XZ4U6hVY1yCXNUUYm_kbB13J1ex5rlIBQ)
Isn't he from the top of the glen road?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:20:32 PM
I'll tell you what fairhead, you're right. let's have a truce. We have bigger fish to fry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 09:22:34 PM
I wasn't at the game so granted I am writing without any authority here. But I think the argument over the red cards is masking the scoreline - it's a comprehensive win. The town in theory shoulda been closer - and we can't use the reds as an excuse. Bad discipline is bad hurling lads and leads to the same results.

On a separate note I really home GD does not get the final. I can't stand to watch him prancing around like he is the what we came to see. All in he is a terrible ref but At least the sun beds will get a turn if he does!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:26:15 PM
Depends on Tomorrows result :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
He let things go today that other refs in this county don't. Isn't that what we've all been gurning about forever? By all accounts he let the boys on the sideline know before the game that unless it was really necessary to stop the flow of the game he was going to let it do just that, flow.

I can't remember who it was that posted  if refs up here  reffed a game as they do down south people would be calling blue murder.

I understand now. I'll be trying to look at matches from that pov from now on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:41:14 PM
On another note, why is it that hardly anywhere has a good pint of lager anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
He let things go today that other refs in this county don't. Isn't that what we've all been gurning about forever? By all accounts he let the boys on the sideline know before the game that unless it was really necessary to stop the flow of the game he was going to let it do just that, flow.

I can't remember who it was that posted  if refs up here  reffed a game as they do down south people would be calling blue murder.

I understand now. I'll be trying to look at matches from that pov from now on.

It does descend into a riot. We need to man up. Expect our lads will be sharpening their hurls for tomorrow as the slaps are allowed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 10, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
He let things go today that other refs in this county don't. Isn't that what we've all been gurning about forever? By all accounts he let the boys on the sideline know before the game that unless it was really necessary to stop the flow of the game he was going to let it do just that, flow.

I can't remember who it was that posted  if refs up here  reffed a game as they do down south people would be calling blue murder.

I understand now. I'll be trying to look at matches from that pov from now on.

It does descend into a riot. We need to man up. Expect our lads will be sharpening their hurls for tomorrow as the slaps are allowed

What is it they say "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't!", Antrim Hurling at large is not ready and capable of fast, free flowing, hard physical challenges, today has proved this by all accounts reading this board and that's why we fail at county level, just not built for it at the moment. The cards for the donnelly lads I hear where well justified, Cormac is it for two yellows? and Matthew for blatant dangerous play, they just made it too obvious by all accounts.

Until players learn to expect the physical aspect of the modern game, we will always have the idiotic comments that I have read on this board tonight. Duffy Matthews, Elliott, Hassan are all well capable of letting the game flow they have proved it, they have all shown that during their inter county roles, but at home clubs and most players just are not up to the task of the hard fast physical game that's just it. Sorry I didn't see the game myself however i did get a detailed blow by blow this evening. Good Luck MR2 tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 10, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
He let things go today that other refs in this county don't. Isn't that what we've all been gurning about forever? By all accounts he let the boys on the sideline know before the game that unless it was really necessary to stop the flow of the game he was going to let it do just that, flow.

I can't remember who it was that posted  if refs up here  reffed a game as they do down south people would be calling blue murder.

I understand now. I'll be trying to look at matches from that pov from now on.

It does descend into a riot. We need to man up. Expect our lads will be sharpening their hurls for tomorrow as the slaps are allowed

What is it they say "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't!", Antrim Hurling at large is not ready and capable of fast, free flowing, hard physical challenges, today has proved this by all accounts reading this board and that's why we fail at county level, just not built for it at the moment. The cards for the donnelly lads I hear where well justified, Cormac is it for two yellows? and Matthew for blatant dangerous play, they just made it too obvious by all accounts.

Until players learn to expect the physical aspect of the modern game, we will always have the idiotic comments that I have read on this board tonight. Duffy Matthews, Elliott, Hassan are all well capable of letting the game flow they have proved it, they have all shown that during their inter county roles, but at home clubs and most players just are not up to the task of the hard fast physical game that's just it. Sorry I didn't see the game myself however i did get a detailed blow by blow this evening. Good Luck MR2 tomorrow ;)

Lucky you ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 10, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 10, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Until players learn to expect the physical aspect of the modern game

I think that's exactly the point.  Some players find it too hard not to react or say something/get annoyed at a heavy tackle (fair or unfair) and it isn't helped by the amount of 'refereeeeee' you hear.  Antrim hurling is a battle of free takers generally, caused by both players and referee's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2011, 10:42:05 PM
Good point 4father about battle of free takers - for me the distinction is the slapping with sticks as opposed to tackling using the body. Clamp down on slaps with stick but let them rip with body tackling so it's tough but less serious cuts plus the more manly teams prevail. As for the pints of lager - go to England! We'll stick with beer! Ah well seriously - u gotta pick your bars better my friend!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 10:48:43 PM
I hope and don't expect dirt tomorrow, the two teams don't have any history and while they will both want to get a crack at Loughgiel it won't be hopefully as bad as two sending off's. Though you never can tell.

Ok I'll head out to Thompson's here and round up the lads, as they are still on the piss from Wednesday nights match. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 10, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 10:48:43 PM
I hope and don't expect dirt tomorrow, the two teams don't have any history and while they will both want to get a crack at Loughgiel it won't be hopefully as bad as two sending off's. Though you never can tell.

Ok I'll head out to Thompson's here and round up the lads, as they are still on the piss from Wednesday nights match.

Doing lines of coke down there too I hear, its ruairi ogs to lose for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 10:55:29 PM
Then the hookers afterwards FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
I'd like to say I like a pint of the black stuff but I got a pint at a wedding in Arby's 20 years ago on a Friday  and it left me two stone lighter by the Sunday. I just can't face it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 11:01:40 PM
I'd like to say I like a pint of the black stuff but I got a pint at a wedding in Arby's 20 years ago on a Friday  and it left me two stone lighter by the Sunday. I just can't face it!

How's your pitch holding up for tomorrow? Bitta rain expected tomorrow, we'd like it dry to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 11:16:50 PM
As long as there's  not torrential rain overnight it'll be grand. We are having a rather stormy night in NA but so far no rain.

It gives it bad for tomorrow though. It'll probably suit you boys ok saying as yous are the ones to beat!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 01:37:31 AM
It seems to have calmed down a bit. Calm before the storm perhaps?

I wish St.Galls and Cushendall all the best for tomorrow and hope it's a great game which the team in blue win!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 02:15:26 AM
Well done to the Shamrocks. Going to be hard to stop in the final whoever the opposition. As for tomorrows game, hope St Galls get the win but cant see it although everyone said that about Dunloy. Good luck to them but a Dall win with 9 points to spare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 02:16:24 AM
Btw lager is pish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 11, 2011, 02:30:20 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 10, 2011, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
He let things go today that other refs in this county don't. Isn't that what we've all been gurning about forever? By all accounts he let the boys on the sideline know before the game that unless it was really necessary to stop the flow of the game he was going to let it do just that, flow.

I can't remember who it was that posted  if refs up here  reffed a game as they do down south people would be calling blue murder.

I understand now. I'll be trying to look at matches from that pov from now on.

It does descend into a riot. We need to man up. Expect our lads will be sharpening their hurls for tomorrow as the slaps are allowed

What is it they say "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't!", Antrim Hurling at large is not ready and capable of fast, free flowing, hard physical challenges, today has proved this by all accounts reading this board and that's why we fail at county level, just not built for it at the moment. The cards for the donnelly lads I hear where well justified, Cormac is it for two yellows? and Matthew for blatant dangerous play, they just made it too obvious by all accounts.

Until players learn to expect the physical aspect of the modern game, we will always have the idiotic comments that I have read on this board tonight. Duffy Matthews, Elliott, Hassan are all well capable of letting the game flow they have proved it, they have all shown that during their inter county roles, but at home clubs and most players just are not up to the task of the hard fast physical game that's just it. Sorry I didn't see the game myself however i did get a detailed blow by blow this evening. Good Luck MR2 tomorrow ;)

Well if you didn't see the game stop pontificating shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 02:48:29 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 02:16:24 AM
Btw lager is pish.
Perhaps, but it's my poison of choice. It's seen me right all of my 38 years! 26 drinking years, I was trained in Toome!  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 03:40:14 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and go for St Galls by 3. You've already beaten a better team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
I was at the match yesterday and in fairness Ballycastle can't complain about the either red card, however Duffy should have red carded Skinner for his pull on Mc Auley in the first half. The ball was a yard in front of Mc Auley, Skinner was a yard behind him and drew across the back of his legs. How he didn't get sent off I'll never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:39:31 AM
There was pulling and slapping by both sides JJ. Skinner could've been sent off but then so could three Ballycastle men. I thought GD showed common sense until he had to do something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:39:31 AM
There was pulling and slapping by both sides JJ. Skinner could've been sent off but then so could three Ballycastle men. I thought GD showed common sense until he had to do something.

So he stopped showing common sense then?   JJ is right about the pull on McAuley's legs and I think it was the same player slashed hippy across the ribs in the first half after hippy had cleared the ball. And now the drama queen is fine. Like I said befoe skinner was giving it out as he always does and getting away with it. he got a taste back and cried like a girl. Also it was on the umpires say that Duffy gave Hippy the second yellow so even that Duffy "didn't see".  He's a bad ref. somebody said about physical contact body to body but leaving out the stick and that should be right. but Hippy and Matthew got sent off for body contact. they never used their stick to strike the oother player the way skinner and McCloskey did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
Would he have been a good ref had he sent off Skinner? I hate the slaps if they are late and on purpose. Rule book says its a red card!! How many games would finish with 15 players on each team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 10:32:20 AM
I would agree with JJ's summary. Referee was inconsistant at times. skinner should have walked for that tackle and another head high tackle in first half about midfield line was played on, without as much as a free. Hippy got hit late after clearing a ball aswell and play continued also. Second half the referee got it right on both the sendings off. Matthew was too late and Hippy was a shoulder to the back after skinner just shouldered mc auley in center of chest. if he hadnt of being try to sneak away after his tackle he wouldnt have got it in the back. Was stupid of hippy to do it as he was on a yellow card.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
Would he have been a good ref had he sent off Skinner? I hate the slaps if they are late and on purpose. Rule book says its a red card!! How many games would finish with 15 players on each team?

The point is that he did NOTHING about the dirty slaps. There was no need for them anyway Loughgiel were the better team.There forwards gave our defence more trouble than I thought specielly Casey in corner forward and Joey Scullion moving around. There midfeild completely ran over ours and so our forwards had nothing to work with. Loughgiel in general just did everything quicker and moved better off the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 10:59:15 AM
MR yous are bound to be favourites. Our injury list, bad weather and yous already beat Dunloy. We struggled against glenarriffe sure. Good luck. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 11:02:29 AM
Have to agree black&amber - liberal slaps with stick are what needs cut out (anyone can pull loose) and thats what they don't tolerate in south. Let the rest go and the physical side will work itself out. All in sounds like best team won just not without controversy and all too often it's refs decision go for eventual winners. Fancy Dall today but not sure how much by!anyone see the throw kn for U21 final Galway Dublin???!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 11:27:07 AM
Quote from: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 10:59:15 AM
MR yous are bound to be favourites. Our injury list, bad weather and yous already beat Dunloy. We struggled against glenarriffe sure. Good luck.

Yeah I know, we have asked the County board to move the final as it will clash with the Football Final the next day :P

Behave ruairi, you have quality hurlers all around the pitch.

I feel for the lad, he has put a lot of work into his club and county and to get an injury like this when it matters to your parish is terrible. I think this may galvanise yous and still win with a bit to spare. It's the final that i would be worried about for Cushendall. Loughgiel seem to be flying fit and without Watson seemed to be playing better!!


Heard the pitch may be taking a fair bit of rain, Move it to Casement. I hope the county have made arrangements should Loughgiel's pitch be unplayable


On another note, Paddy Power don't know about your injuries, Anyone looking a sneaky tenner on us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 12:08:00 PM
We have 3 into our starting line up and possibily 3 ruled out with injury agian. story of our season. Hope the fellas returning from injury can make up for the ones who wont be playing.

Casement would be ideal to play yous in MR. Going to be another battle for us again. But sure its championship, and that's what it's all about.

Best of luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 11, 2011, 12:16:26 PM
So Skinner's a drama queen,I don't think.Two big rough men just couldn't hack it and lashed out and paid the price. It could have worse, someone could have been on a manslaughter charge to-day.So don't try to make little of the incident. It was very very serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
Another inch up and I could've been attending a wake today. Don't try and belittle the seriousness of what yer man done b+a. It was nothing more than an assault of the most cowardly kind. Shame on you for even trying to say otherwise!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 10:32:20 AM
I would agree with JJ's summary. Referee was inconsistant at times. skinner should have walked for that tackle and another head high tackle in first half about midfield line was played on, without as much as a free. Hippy got hit late after clearing a ball aswell and play continued also. Second half the referee got it right on both the sendings off. Matthew was too late and Hippy was a shoulder to the back after skinner just shouldered mc auley in center of chest. if he hadnt of being try to sneak away after his tackle he wouldnt have got it in the back. Was stupid of hippy to do it as he was on a yellow card.
Are you trying to justify what hippy did? Unbelievable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
Anyhow, I hope St. Galls pull off another upset. I can't see it happening all the same. I would say that anything less than a 10 point victory for the Dall would be a disappointment for them. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
Another inch up and I could've been attending a wake today. Don't try and belittle the seriousness of what yer man done b+a. It was nothing more than an assault of the most cowardly kind. Shame on you for even trying to say otherwise!

I missed the challenge myself due to the number of bodies about the place. But I can tell you when it comes to cowardly assaults, the injured party in this case has a fair bit of previous over the years. Who knows if this contributed to the challenge that he took on this occasion (which was rightly dealt with by the referee) . Those who use the sword tend to come up against retribution eventually whether you or me believe it to be morally justfied or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
Amazing! Skinner ties to break a man's leg and broke his own stick that time I think. tries to break a man's ribs with his stick and then risks breaking a man's breastbone with a shoulder charge. never mind all the other dirty slaps he gave out and suddenly HEs the victim of a cowardly assault.  hahahahaha   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 01:30:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 11, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
Another inch up and I could've been attending a wake today. Don't try and belittle the seriousness of what yer man done b+a. It was nothing more than an assault of the most cowardly kind. Shame on you for even trying to say otherwise!

I missed the challenge myself due to the number of bodies about the place. But I can tell you when it comes to cowardly assaults, the injured party in this case has a fair bit of previous over the years. Who knows if this contributed to the challenge that he took on this occasion (which was rightly dealt with by the referee) . Those who use the sword tend to come up against retribution eventually whether you or me believe it to be morally justfied or not.

now now skull dont you know that Skinner is lined up for sainthood.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 01:45:30 PM
Unbelievable!  Any of you fellas going to the intermediate final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 01:54:31 PM
Skinner was on a yellow card when he shouldered Neal McAuley in the chest - had Hippy not shouldered him in the back seconds after he should have walked too.  Thought it was poor on Duffy's part to allow his injury to overshadow the fact that he should have been walking off the pitch rather than carried.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 01:54:31 PM
Skinner was on a yellow card when he shouldered Neal McAuley in the chest - had Hippy not shouldered him in the back seconds after he should have walked too.  Thought it was poor on Duffy's part to allow his injury to overshadow the fact that he should have been walking off the pitch rather than carried.   

Never knew that. WHat was he booked for cos he seemed to be slappin away without any worries.  If youse win tonight you better hope you dont get Duffy in the final cos for me he was biased for Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
He and Eddie McCloskey both got a yellow card at the same time in the first half.  He pulled around the back of Neal McAuley's (I think) legs.  Over towards the Loughgiel bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:13:07 PM
Might head up to the 'Town' when these two teams meet next year in the league. Wouldn't mind refereeing it to. might need an extra note book :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
CUSHENDALL – Ronan Kearney, Sean Delargy, Conor Carson, Terence McAllister, Arron Graffin, Donal McNaughton, Martin Burke, Eunan McKillop,  Paddy McNaughton, Brian Delargy, Paddy McGill, Francis McAuley, Neil McManus, Shane McNaughton.     

I'd say Carson will move into fullforward and Scullion will head into fullback who'll fill the big man's position?                                                               
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
He and Eddie McCloskey both got a yellow card at the same time in the first half.  He pulled around the back of Neal McAuley's (I think) legs.  Over towards the Loughgiel bench.

never knew he got booked that time. I thought it was only McCloskey and he should have been off. Never stopped him from giving out more dirt anyway.

MR the league will be the same result unless the Town make big changes to there game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 02:31:01 PM
B+A when all your team can do is dish out the dirt you have to be prepared to take it back. Your team can't hurl. I would suggest you concentrate on helping your lot get better rather than posting drivel on this forum. Probably the worst team ever to come out of the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
He and Eddie McCloskey both got a yellow card at the same time in the first half.  He pulled around the back of Neal McAuley's (I think) legs.  Over towards the Loughgiel bench.

never knew he got booked that time. I thought it was only McCloskey and he should have been off. Never stopped him from giving out more dirt anyway.

MR the league will be the same result unless the Town make big changes to there game.

What's the craic up there? Ya's have a good catchment area and decent youngsters coming through. Would a decent outside manager be a option for yous? Someone without loyalties to certain people within the club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
CUSHENDALL – Ronan Kearney, Sean Delargy, Conor Carson, Terence McAllister, Arron Graffin, Donal McNaughton, Martin Burke, Eunan McKillop,  Paddy McNaughton, Brian Delargy, Paddy McGill, Francis McAuley, Neil McManus, Shane McNaughton.     

I'd say Carson will move into fullforward and Scullion will head into fullback who'll fill the big man's position?                                                               
You would have to fancy your chances against 14 MR2? Sorry I forgot Ray was the ref...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 02:44:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
He and Eddie McCloskey both got a yellow card at the same time in the first half.  He pulled around the back of Neal McAuley's (I think) legs.  Over towards the Loughgiel bench.

never knew he got booked that time. I thought it was only McCloskey and he should have been off. Never stopped him from giving out more dirt anyway.

MR the league will be the same result unless the Town make big changes to there game.



What's the craic up there? Ya's have a good catchment area and decent youngsters coming through. Would a decent outside manager be a option for yous? Someone without loyalties to certain people within the club?

You looking a job MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2011, 02:45:20 PM
Re: The discussion about refs letting the game go.

Mattie Donnellys sending off typified the stupid blatant type of fouling that is ever present up here. Everybody can see it. It's a clear as day. Referee is in absolutely no doubt. Completely stupid. The two LG challenges in the first half were as bad. There appears to be some sort of false bravado being exercised by players, showing the crowd there not "feared" or something. Compare those type of challenges to the way KK play tough. You wouldn't see them do anything close to obvious and they wont spend the rest of the game thinking about getting retribution for an earlier incident. Evolution required
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 11, 2011, 02:45:20 PM
Re: The discussion about refs letting the game go.

Mattie Donnellys sending off typified the stupid blatant type of fouling that is ever present up here. Everybody can see it. It's a clear as day. Referee is in absolutely no doubt. Completely stupid. The two LG challenges in the first half were as bad. There appears to be some sort of false bravado being exercised by players, showing the crowd there not "feared" or something. Compare those type of challenges to the way KK play tough. You wouldn't see them do anything close to obvious and they wont spend the rest of the game thinking about getting retribution for an earlier incident. Evolution required

Here here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
Any score in the cloughmills game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
CUSHENDALL – Ronan Kearney, Sean Delargy, Conor Carson, Terence McAllister, Arron Graffin, Donal McNaughton, Martin Burke, Eunan McKillop,  Paddy McNaughton, Brian Delargy, Paddy McGill, Francis McAuley, Neil McManus, Shane McNaughton.     

I'd say Carson will move into fullforward and Scullion will head into fullback who'll fill the big man's position?                                                               
You would have to fancy your chances against 14 MR2? Sorry I forgot Ray was the ref...

Took that from the Antrim website!! Is that what they are up to, trying to confuse us? ha ha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 03:10:48 PM
Yeah we need to stop slabbering at the referee, I'm the worst for it sometimes, I'll have to apologise to Robbo when i see him, give him dogs abuse on Wednesday night. Though the night was a major milestone in our club hurling development and i got a little carried away ::)

We want consistency in the refereeing and we want it to flow. Some want advantage others want to take the free (because they have a good free taker) it's a hard call. I know I've only done Juvenile games but have refereed 3 finals and the intensity and the calls from the line and in the stand can be intimidating so it's harder than you think to see everything.

Out of the top 3 hurling teams i think Dunloy are the only ones to have a referee who has played at a high standard (Cunning) Not sure of McIntyre's hurling past though i though he was a good referee in fairness. Has Cushendall a senior referee, Ballycastle or the other Div 1 teams? I think it makes a difference
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
Any score in the cloughmills game?

Lamh Dhearg 2-9 1-9 Cloughmills FT.

Doesn't sound like the best of games but shite conditions to be playing in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
Well done LD, another team on the up.  Good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 11, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
Who won junior hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 11, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 11, 2011, 02:11:17 PM
He and Eddie McCloskey both got a yellow card at the same time in the first half.  He pulled around the back of Neal McAuley's (I think) legs.  Over towards the Loughgiel bench.

never knew he got booked that time. I thought it was only McCloskey and he should have been off. Never stopped him from giving out more dirt anyway.

MR the league will be the same result unless the Town make big changes to there game.

What's the craic up there? Ya's have a good catchment area and decent youngsters coming through. Would a decent outside manager be a option for yous? Someone without loyalties to certain people within the club?

I dunno MR. The manager now took over in the middle of a season when nobody else wanted the job. The reason nobody wanted it was cos boys wouldnt train or have any comitment. A man like Paul McKillen couldn't get more than 7 or 8 to trainng sessions and you would think he would have respect but no.  AT least Nander has got them to training and he was unlucky with boys leaving to work or play soccer and so on. I doubt if the club has the money to bring in an outsider but something needs done. There workrate for that sort of pressure hurling is way off the mark and they hit big long balls up the feild still. as for loyalties to certain people within the club well you could be right there. I wouldnt want to see Nander just dumped cos he stepped up when nobody else did and yes they got relegated but he took them back up. Also they are mostly young apart from Pinky and Cossy so there is potential. Someone who knows about tactics maybe to work with Nander if they work for nothing  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 11, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
Who won junior hurling

No result in yet but I am hearing that Creggan won the Junior. Congrats to them as they have some quality hurlers coming through and should be a force for a long time to come if they keep the side togehter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 11, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
Who is providing the updates,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 05:54:58 PM
Let's not forget the eventual return to Div 2 to Sarsfields.  St Pauls have another year in Division 3 to look forward to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 06:10:07 PM
Anyone keeping us up to date from Dall v gall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:11:16 PM
Galls 1-2 to 0-0
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:14:03 PM
Galls 1-2 to 0-1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:11:16 PM
Galls 1-2 to 0-0

Some start!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 11, 2011, 06:18:25 PM
Good man O'Neill,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:19:43 PM
Galls 2-3 to 0-1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:22:36 PM
Galls 2-3 to 0-2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
f**k!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 06:23:55 PM
Holy Jesus!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 06:24:22 PM
Jaysus!!! The Dall will be rattled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 06:28:02 PM
Wind blowing? How'd they line out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 06:29:37 PM
Must've been all that coke and those hookers from last night.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
Galls 2-8 to 0-3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 06:32:21 PM
buh.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 11, 2011, 06:34:01 PM
Strong wind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2011, 06:34:23 PM
Fcuk me! Go on St Galls.
omg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
The tail end of hurricane Irene has truly arrived!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 06:37:38 PM
St Galls have had advantage of big wind. 2-08 to 0-04 at HT.

Tweeted via @ClubAontroma
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
The tail end of hurricane Irene has truly arrived!
not at game sie,  whats going down??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 11, 2011, 06:40:06 PM
Mate at match reckons wind is going across the pitch and isn't really favouring anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 06:41:03 PM
It's a cross field, swirling wind. Galls want it more atm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 06:46:22 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 11, 2011, 06:48:49 PM
SIE hows are RM getting on, is he letting it go! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
Please St Galls, hold it out for this half. Would be fantastic for Antrim hurling imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
He's doing ok. Not just as free flowing as yesterday but not bad at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:55:07 PM
Galls 2-8 to 0-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 11, 2011, 06:57:24 PM
Glad to hear it! Should keep the other A Holes and experts quite on the the site that call for free flowing hurling the southern way ;) Thanks SIE :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 07:00:45 PM
Here's a thought - if shamrocks beat galls in the county final they will have won a championship by beating three division2 teams!!!!!! Only in Antrim!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 06:55:07 PM
Galls 2-8 to 0-5
How long left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:02:01 PM
Galls 2-9 to 0-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 07:00:45 PM
Here's a thought - if shamrocks beat galls in the county final they will have won a championship by beating three division2 teams!!!!!! Only in Antrim!!!!!
But if St Galls win,   They will have beat 'THE BIG 3'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
9 points in it, tough ask for the Dall.  Fair feckin play bayyy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:07:05 PM
Galls 2-10 to 0-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 07:08:22 PM
If I were a betting man I'd be throwing the lot on St. Galls. Great work rate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:09:23 PM
Galls 2-10 to 1-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
Its all go now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:10:48 PM
Galls 2-10 to 1-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
I've spoken too soon. Here come the Dall!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:12:16 PM
f**k ye Galls get back into them! Anyone care to tell us how long is left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 07:12:31 PM
What price the draw now?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 07:13:01 PM
Couldn't be long left lads? Come on St Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:13:06 PM
5 mins left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:13:06 PM
5 mins left.
Hang in there Milltown men! All of Antrim are behind you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 07:15:15 PM
Dall goal came from dispossessing Galls keeper while trying to clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 07:15:27 PM
Shams easiest volunteer cup ever... Or Galls toughest!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:16:04 PM
Galls 2-10 to 1-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 07:16:44 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:17:06 PM
All Square

2-10 to 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:17:41 PM
Cushendall 2-11 to 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
Ah for fusk sake. Only one winner now. Galls 2 points in second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 07:19:47 PM
f**k you Cushendall!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 07:19:47 PM
f**k you Cushendall!!!
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 07:20:52 PM
f**k
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
Big Mickey Kennedy in nets??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:22:20 PM
Galls lost 2-11 to 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
soul destroying for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 11, 2011, 07:23:14 PM
Go On the dall sum comeback
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2011, 07:23:31 PM
f**k it anyway. Unlucky St. Galls but 2 points in second half is poor going in any conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Galls had a free in at the end but fell short. Lenny Harbinson was seen laughing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 07:24:57 PM
Unlucky StGalls, pity about the first soft goal. I have to say I fancy us to beat the Dall handy enough. Now to  book a few days off work!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
In a nutshell - great effort galls and great character Dall! Thanks for update O'Neill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
f**k off Cushendall. Anyway, well done to St Galls, must have put in an absolute mammoth effort. That game on Wed night just taking its toll by the looks of things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 07:29:35 PM
Bit harsh people saying 'F**K off the Dall', what did you want them to do?  Well done and looking forward to what will hopefully be a great final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 11, 2011, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: 4father on August 31, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
they have ability alright. Their keeper is their achilles and unfortunately for them, that might be their undoing.

Think I wrote this a wee while back...  :-\

Anyway, bad luck St Galls.  Talking point of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 07:48:17 PM
Well done to the dall massive come back, hope they can improve for the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 11, 2011, 07:29:35 PM
Bit harsh people saying 'F**K off the Dall', what did you want them to do?  Well done and looking forward to what will hopefully be a great final.
Well repeat of last years final two weeks time, all to hurl for,   feel sorry for galls to be honest,  but that's the way it goes,  knowone will be looking forward to drawing them next year. well done and hard luck.   Shamrocks to lift it by 5 :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
Next year different ball game they will be back to the Div2 wilderness, good result against Dunloy but were never going to follow it up!

Well open for the shams now but not of their doing just standards dropping around them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 08:12:51 PM
I think that's a bit off the mark nag. Yes dunloy and cushendall aren't of the standard of recent years but we have definitely improved a lot in the last couple of years. PJ has instilled a self belief in this crop of players that wasn't there before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 11, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
Great effort again by st  galls. I definitely wont be looking forward to drawing them again next year. That result is bound to make Dunloy feel slightly better.

We got out of jail in that game. Their work rate was very good, but i think our character got us over the line in the end. Im glad thats over. Knew we were in for a battle against Glenarriffe and St Galls.

Fair play to CJ for not lying down in last couple of minutes. Game was in the balance and just got up and on with it. Many others have lay down in past in the same circumstance.

They have earned alot of respect throughout the county with their championship performances this year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 11, 2011, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Galls had a free in at the end but fell short. Lenny Harbinson was seen laughing.
Did'nt I tell the bollocks Harbinson would be happy they got beat.  McGourty Sen and fat PJ will also be happy, as I stated earlier!

Just one step too far for the Galls lads, a sterling effort, but only two points in the second period, says it all I think.  desperate day for hurling and the conditions certainly had an impact on the game.  A gutsy effort by the Dall all the same.

Noamh Gall should push on from here after some great performances in the championship, but the old football/handball, likely to get in the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
What a comeback, sensational. St. Galls gave one hell of a performance, hats off to them. We showed great character to come back and are delighted to be back in the final. The one sower note was Ray Matthews, at it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
Hardly loughgiels fault dall and dunloy have dropped in standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
What a comeback, sensational. St. Galls gave one hell of a performance, hats off to them. We showed great character to come back and are delighted to be back in the final. The one sower note was Ray Matthews, at it again.

At what again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2011, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
What a comeback, sensational. St. Galls gave one hell of a performance, hats off to them. We showed great character to come back and are delighted to be back in the final. The one sower note was Ray Matthews, at it again.

At what again?
always something ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,

dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,

dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again
yeah a know, sure dall 'gave' us the championship last year,  i thought it was powerfull good of them ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 11, 2011, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,
dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again

It will be a while before a decent team appears by the looks of things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2011, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 11, 2011, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,
dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again

It will be a while before a decent team appears by the looks of things.
As things stand imo all the teams in the county are not far of each other, on there day, anyone can beat anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,

dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again
We've had decent teams that your lot would dream of having. We can only beat whatever is put out in front of us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 11, 2011, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
Next year different ball game they will be back to the Div2 wilderness, good result against Dunloy but were never going to follow it up! Well open for the shams now but not of their doing just standards dropping around them!

Thats a bit harsh given they came within a point of Cushendall.  Great performance from St galls and a breath of fresh air to this years championship. Out possessed Cushendall for most of the game but I think their stickwork at times let them down.  Feel sorry for the Keeper who had a good game apart from the goal incident but fair play to Fred for chasing in on the ball where others would have given up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 11:14:16 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 11, 2011, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Galls had a free in at the end but fell short. Lenny Harbinson was seen laughing.
Did'nt I tell the bollocks Harbinson would be happy they got beat.  McGourty Sen and fat PJ will also be happy, as I stated earlier!



Yea, but I was only coddin like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,

dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again
We've had decent teams that your lot would dream of having. We can only beat whatever is put out in front of us.

Decent teams that lost championship after championship until the standrard dropped and you got one, stand by my statement that you havent beat a team to earn one but as I also said they all count the same handy or not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2011, 11:29:30 PM
Same can be said of all the teams that beat Cushendall in the All Ireland Club Semi's over the years. Will talk about match tomorrow. Feel sick and gutted for the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 12:50:08 AM
All the results from the weekends Championship:

Loughgiel 1-17 0-7 Ballycastle
Cushendall 2-11 2-10 St Galls

Lamh Dhearg 2-9 1-9 Cloughmills

Creggan 0-17 2-6 Glenravel

St Johns 1-15 2-7 Cushendall

Rossa 2-18 5-8 St Pauls

Congrats to Lamh Dhearg, Creggan, St Johns and Rossa on winning their respective Championships. All the best to Loughgiel and Cushendall for the senior final. Should be an exciting game although I can see the Shamrocks prevailing with at least 6 points to spare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 06:17:16 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
SIE lg have been of the same standard for the last ten years, only the fact that the big two have dropped a level it has brought them up to it! Not that, that takes away from you winning it last year because every title counts the same point is you haven't beat anyone at the top of their game, just handy ones! :-p
It wasn't handy last year, we had to beat dunloy and cushendall,

dunloy and cushendall beat themselves last year, we only scored six points last year ffs, general discussion around north antrim is that antrim club hurling has got so sub standard that loughgeil is winning cups. if i where you SIE i would relish these days before a decent team shows up again
We've had decent teams that your lot would dream of having. We can only beat whatever is put out in front of us.

Decent teams that lost championship after championship until the standrard dropped and you got one, stand by my statement that you havent beat a team to earn one but as I also said they all count the same handy or not!
Rubbish!!! you earn it if you win it, end of. Yous were never that far ahead.

We won plenty before either Dunloy or Cushendall registered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 07:49:19 AM
SIE would sicken your hole listening to him. Is it any wonder .............

Hard luck to St Galls ...thought at half time they might even push on. In football maybe (when you defend deep) you can hold off a challenge with a 10 point lead but in hurling you still have to keep pushing on. The dall really, if luck had been on their side earlier in the second half, could have taken the lead with 10 to play. Galant effort from St Galls who were dying on every challenge throughout but you could see them just trying to hold on and they just got deeper and deeper as the 2nd half wore on. They did the same against us on Wed night but we didnt take enough of our chances. But thats not to take away from a magnificent second half from cushendall. In the second half they stood up well to the physical contest and ground out a brilliant result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
Before I start, well done Cushendall, I wish you and Loughgiel all the best in the final.

As for the match, we got the start that was expected in fairness, the wind give us the spring board to get the scores. Defence on top and we built up a good lead. Cushendall looked dangerous up front when they had the ball but were smothered out of it most times. We gave away a few handy frees which kept them on the scoreboard.
10 points, as skull already said in hurling is not much (Cushendall v Loughgiel final) especially with the wind that both teams had. We dropped deep but it was very difficult to push on as the ball kept coming back, we moved Karl into the half forward line to see if he could get on the end of the ball but had to move him back to midfield again. We also haven't been in this position too many times so that inexperience was telling at the final whistle. When you're 4 up with one minute to go in normal time you should see it out. When you are 3 after 61.30 mins then it's gutting that we could see it out.

The effort our lads put into that game was tremendous. And the games against Dunloy were also top draw. Loughgiel may come away from this thinking this is in the bag. Standards have dropped I've heard people say, that's bullshit, the standard is ten times better than before (in Antrim) it's just that the other teams (Southern teams) are better,  fitter and stronger physically.

The challenge to the Antrim teams is to put the work in. Unfortunately for our club we are disadvantage in this department. Having county footballers who hurl causes problems. County team plays on a Sunday, club hurling games on that weekend. Footballers head off for training weekends, club hurling games fixed for that weekend. For us to put in a challenge into the league would mean having all our players available and committed.

I think we will fail at the All Ireland club stages because throughout the year the top 3 teams will only really have 2 games of any note. Some may only end up with one game played at any pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 12, 2011, 10:29:07 AM
Hard luck St Galls. Thats 3 terrific games youse put in. Dunloy not as bad then or the Dall going bad too  ;) Youse must be gutted to have run it so close and like someone said noone will want youse next year. Well done to the Dall. Coming back and keeping going. Of the 2 semi finals Cushendall will have got the most out of them. Loughgiel got it easy and Cushendall had to dig deep and that should stand to them for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 12, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
My views would tend to be slightly bias against loughiel normally , but you cant take away their win last year. Any other year you could have argued that they came through the easier side odraw but not last year. They beat their 2 nearest competitors on way to winning the championshipp.thats it.                                                         Having came through that game yesterday i can tell you we are very happy to have escaped.other days we might not have.having played championship against dunloy and loughiel over the last 10 years i can assure you that that test was as good as anyone that has any one of the 'big 3' (as people hav said). St galls can compete for the next championships if they keep their minors involved and the club lets the player play both codes.                                                               I thought RM done a decent job.tried his hardest to let the game go.                    MR as far as other teams getting a handy all ireland semi as you commented last night, i dont agree with that.each team that has went over the border has went over and hurled vey well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 10:57:07 AM
My post was directed at NAG1's post above mine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2011, 11:04:20 AM
Some good points MR2 - although I do think u undersetimate the succes of clubs going over the border. Our clubes conistently give good performances - the gap that is there at county level is not so evident at club.

However your point on dual players (especially if they are also county players) is spot on. Think about it lads - if a dual club like St Galls / Rossa etc can compete with single code teams like Dall / Shams does that not tell us something? I mean single code teams have nothing else to focus on for the full season they are preparing for hurling championship whilst their opponents might be kicking ball in Moneyglass or the like!

Well done St Galls and our dual clubs - perhaps the single code teams might thank their medals cabinet they dont kick ball!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2011, 11:04:20 AM
Some good points MR2 - although I do think u undersetimate the succes of clubs going over the border. Our clubes conistently give good performances - the gap that is there at county level is not so evident at club.

However your point on dual players (especially if they are also county players) is spot on. Think about it lads - if a dual club like St Galls / Rossa etc can compete with single code teams like Dall / Shams does that not tell us something? I mean single code teams have nothing else to focus on for the full season they are preparing for hurling championship whilst their opponents might be kicking ball in Moneyglass or the like!

Well done St Galls and our dual clubs - perhaps the single code teams might thank their medals cabinet they dont kick ball!

Success is measured by what you have won, we have one it once while Dunloy have been very unlucky in not winning it twice.

I put that post up as i was annoyed at some of the comments made earlier about the standards dropping, which i believe to be bullshite, the other teams down south have just raised theirs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 12, 2011, 11:36:31 AM
MR i play on the cushendall team, and i believe ourselves or dunloy are not as good as we were 10 years ago. Back then both teams were unlucky. In 99 cdall were up inside injury time against st josephs who were current all ireland champs and ended up in a draw. Dunloy actually got to a few finals in the following years.at that stage thechampionship  winner was always going to come from either of the 2.                                                                       Now theres chances of upsets thrown into the mix. I understand you were prob just pissed off. You just want to let that one slide?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 12, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
Have just got my account activated today so bear with me commenting on the Ballycastle game as well as the other semi-final.

SIE you are a disgrace.Did u actually see the two challenges??Skinner was blown up for a foul(over carrying i thnink) he then went on to shoulder Neal McAuley in the chest and then tried to salk off with the ball.Hippy shoulderd him and he fell.Hippy then took the ball off him and went to hit the free.At which point the umpire made the call. Mattys red card was for what?Standing his ground and taking the shoulder of the runner?how many times does this happen in both hurling and football.A yellow card offence at worst. However i do agree that yes yous wud probably have won the game as our boys hadnt got into the game at all.But again your statements that A) This is the worst town team is wrong and B) That Duffy was a 9/10 is complete tripe. He let the likes of Skinner get away with wild swings in the first half yet when ballycastle players gave it back in the second half he sent them off.

In the other game Cushendall were very lucky and St Galls certainly improved since we played them in the league.Also would like to wish Cdall best of luck in final as after lgiels antics on sat and through these message boards would hate to see them win anything.Horrible team+horrible fans!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
Look I'm pissed off but that doesn't take away from one thing. The standard has improved up here just not to the same extent as down south.

I was at Parnell for your semi's against St Josephs and De La Salle I had been at Dunloys games also and was in Parnell last year for Loughgiel's game. De La Salle went on to get hammered by 18 points I think and have lost in their club championship this year I think

We had great hurlers in those days no doubt but the speed of the game is far quicker down there compared to us. Newtownshadrum took it to a different level then Portumna took it higher again before Ballyhale stepped in and raised it again. We have tried to get there but with no luck.

Now as a club player of Cushendall ruairi can you honestly say you have put in the same effort as those players from the teams mentioned above? For me when Dunloy started winning they were putting in that effort, yourselves had to then raise your own standards to compete with them.

But somewhere they just got better and we didn't improve as fast and the gap just got bigger. Having refereed a right few games this year at underage level I am seeing kids play hurling that 10 or 15 years ago would not be happening. Their ability is great to see and is proof that it has improved. It's the preparation when leading up to the big games that is letting us down when heading over the border.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 12, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
Cushendall got out of jail big time yesterday. They where awful throughout the whole game, everyting they did was so slow, compared to St Galls who looked very sharp and where faster onto every ball.

Credit to cushendall though, they fought hard and got the bit of luck which they didnt get when hitting the Post twice and one cleared off the line.

MR2, i am still convinced the standard at senior level among the top teams is not what it was a few years ago, maybe the weaker teams are getting better but as i said C'Dall & Dunloy have gone backwards IMO, loughgiel are much the same.

btw didnt De la salle get beat (unluckily) last year in the AI Semi by the eventually easy winners.?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 12, 2011, 12:29:08 PM
Think to say the result is all that matters is true in one respect but kind of belittles st galls effort yesterday. Cdalls best opportunity was in 2006 when they got beat by a mediocre loughrea team.your clubman trained us that winter and we were flying fit but just didnt perform that day. Realistically 8 years ago st galls wouldnt not have played better than cdall in a championship semi final.i think its a combination od us getting worse and the weaker teams getting better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
Wise up hurler 24. No matter what you think Skinner should've got he didn't deserve a cowardly attack from behind. The real disgrace here is that people are actually trying to justify it. There would still have been more than ten points in it if you'd kept all your men on the field. Your hurling at the standard this year you deserve to be at going on Saturday's performance. Straight down next year again I fear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 12, 2011, 01:09:39 PM
SIE no one is saying he deserved the shoulder in the back, but as someone already said earlier, the phrase Live by the sword, die by the sword applies indefinitely here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 11, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
Another inch up and I could've been attending a wake today. Don't try and belittle the seriousness of what yer man done b+a. It was nothing more than an assault of the most cowardly kind. Shame on you for even trying to say otherwise!

I missed the challenge myself due to the number of bodies about the place. But I can tell you when it comes to cowardly assaults, the injured party in this case has a fair bit of previous over the years. Who knows if this contributed to the challenge that he took on this occasion (which was rightly dealt with by the referee) . Those who use the sword tend to come up against retribution eventually whether you or me believe it to be morally justfied or not.

I repeat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:10:36 PM
I see the animosity towards Loughgiel is still alive and well within certain clubs in the county. It makes winning the championship all the sweeter. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
*yawns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 01:16:49 PM
Dont want to deal with the point I'm making SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:19:41 PM
Is the point you're making he got what was coming to him? What do you want me to say? You have your point of view, I have mine. It's getting boring now. What matters is we're in another final with a good chance of 2 in a row. I'm more looking forwards than backwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 01:23:55 PM
Just want to know do you understand (rather than agree) the point I'm making?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:26:14 PM
And why wouldn't I understand?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 01:28:12 PM
never mind  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
What way do you think the final will go Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 01:37:14 PM
A bit like yourself I'd rather not comment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 12, 2011, 01:45:25 PM
SIE   I can agree attacking someone when there back is turned is dangerous. Over the years how many times has Skinner done it himself.

Some of the worst "tackles" I have ever seen on a pitch have came from him.

If you are playing Dirty and Dangerous in a match you need to expect that you are going to get a dirty slap.

My personal opinion was he should have been sent off long before this incident.

At the end of the day skinner is okay I think everyone just needs to forget about it

On another note my commiserations to St Galls who really should have beat our Neighbours hopefully this will lift hurling in Belfast to show they can compete with the bigger clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 12, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
Oisin i agree 100% but the way SIE etc were making this out you would think the Ballycastle players in question had assulted the lgiel players with sticks....ie comments like "could have been attending a wake today".It was quite obvious Skinner made a big deal out of something rather fickle.

And yes SIE hurling at tht standard maybe didnt help us come championship time against the likes of yous or Dunloy or Cdall but it has allowed us to blood alot of young players who have definatly improved our team.We now have a squad.I think we will only improve and will definatly stay up next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 02:16:20 PM
If I get a chance to put up a link to the video of this "fickle" incident I will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
Not to row in behind what Skinner has done in the past (fcuk it) but he also finished one of our minors in a Minor Championship match up in Glenravel one year.

Smashed his elbow to bits, the lad was in plaster for months and rehabilitation for over a year. Give the sport up due to the injury as it affected him.

But Skinner will be playing in the final so he'll be grand, that young lad who played for us wont be hurling again. Fair amount of stories for one player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
SIE will be sure to go offline (crawl away under a rock) after that post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 02:45:16 PM
I'm here skull. If that's true then it should have been dealt with at the time. Sure let's all go back in history and list the respective misdemeanours of players from all clubs. That'll be a worth while excercise. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 02:45:16 PM
I'm here skull. If that's true then it should have been dealt with at the time. Sure let's all go back in history and list the respective misdemeanours of players from all clubs. They'll be a worth while exercises.

no need to go every players record here as there is only one player the subject of debate and you decided to defend one of the most cynical ones on view this year. wouldn't expect you to have a balanced perspective on this subject but as like most of the posters on here this morning i was a neutral at the match. the slapping and dirty play he was at was terrible and he wouldn't have got it in the back if he wasn't purposely holding on to ballycastles ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 02:58:43 PM
Quote the post where you saw me defending him. I commented on the challenge by hippy which was a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:02:09 PM
Btw NAH you're a Dunloy supporter aeen't you? Neutral at a Loughgiel match? That one made me chuckle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 02:58:43 PM
Quote the post where you saw me defending him. I commented on the challenge by hippy which was a disgrace.

By not saying anything regarding his behaviour on the field of play (even when prompted to reply) you have said all that needs to be said. This is not a courtroom. People know where you stand on the whole subject. Myopic in the extreme
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:18:01 PM
How can I comment on things I haven't seen for myself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:20:45 PM
Some vultures circling today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 03:22:43 PM
You've never seen skinner assalt anyone in a cowardly fashion on the field of play? Is that what you're saying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
Not like what I saw on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
So Skull, SIE's view is myopic as is B&A ??  Your words, not mine.  I suppose your view is 20/20 ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 12, 2011, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
Not like what I saw on Saturday.
Have you ever seen anything worse from any Loch gCaol man or woman?

Yes but there's no need to go there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:35:14 PM
I'm so myopic I ended up with a Dunloy woman!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long to hs chipped in. He loves us Pdiddy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
So Skull, SIE's view is myopic as is B&A ??  Your words, not mine.
Regarding the sending offs...Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 12, 2011, 03:49:58 PM
SIE and Pdiddy this is why evry other club in Antrim hates lgiel.It is not down to jealousy it is down to the fact that your fans are horrible and your players are dirty.The abuse your fans give other teams is disgusting and the fact that yous openly defend acts of cowardly striking etc by your players is a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 12, 2011, 03:49:58 PM
SIE and Pdiddy this is why evry other club in Antrim hates lgiel.It is not down to jealousy it is down to the fact that your fans are horrible and your players are dirty.The abuse your fans give other teams is disgusting and the fact that yous openly defend acts of cowardly striking etc by your players is a disgrace.

Sorry, where have i defended the act of cowardly striking by Loughgiel or any other player?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
I know i had a pop at player but time to stop talking about it. Ballycastle lads were sent off fairly. Spoke to umpire who said it was right call.  Lets work out how best to have a more competitive championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 12, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
I know i had a pop at player but time to stop talking about it. Ballycastle lads were sent off fairly. Spoke to umpire who said it was right call.  Lets work out how best to have a more competitive championship.

Well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes

I am from North Antrim and have always thought the support Loughgiel brings to their games is outstanding. Sure there are a few mouths in their contingent but every club has these type of folk. All about different opinions though ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 12, 2011, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes

I am from North Antrim and have always thought the support Loughgiel brings to their games is outstanding. Sure there are a few mouths in their contingent but every club has these type of folk. All about different opinions though ;D
well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2011, 05:31:02 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for
FYI FG the constant slabbering has been a result of the blinkered reactions  of some of our LG bretheren. Well done to them surely but point the finger elsewhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 12, 2011, 03:49:58 PM
SIE and Pdiddy this is why evry other club in Antrim hates lgiel.It is not down to jealousy it is down to the fact that your fans are horrible and your players are dirty.The abuse your fans give other teams is disgusting and the fact that yous openly defend acts of cowardly striking etc by your players is a disgrace.
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 12, 2011, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 03:20:45 PM
Some vultures circling today.

Well said Seomroga, envy is a terrible thing!  You are doing a good job of defending your club's/parish honour.  The Dunloy and Ballycastle vultures, ignore the Fcuk***!

From what I seen on Saturday and Sunday, it's Loughgiels to loose!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes
Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to hit home an inaccurate point of view.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes
The first year Dunloy won the championship I was one of the first from my parish over in Dunloy. I drank out of the cup in the village and the Bridge with their players and supporters , and indeed in the pound and the old clubhouse in Loughgiel. I was actually glad to see them players win it, and have nothing but respect for the club that produced the best club hurling team in Antrim in my life time.

We were also on the receiving end of a 33 point drubbing in Cushendall  by Dunloy and went round each of their players and wished them luck for that championship and all Ireland. When we beat them in the championship they were always more than gracious to us, as we were to them. So don't spew forth with your ill informed and downright incorrect bile!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
Anyhow, any word on the N. McManus injury?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2011, 05:49:38 PM
Far be it for a chip eater from Belfast to chip in but maybe some neutral slants. Loughuile have great support in terms of numbers, and horrendous support in terms of conduct. On the field - i spoke to rossa boys before and after their game they were on about speed and stickwork- definitely not dirt! The town are not neutral however! That said - the amount of north Antrim posts about the shamrocks tells it's own tale. Move on lads - cos there's no argument with the volunteer cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 12, 2011, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
Anyhow, any word on the N. McManus injury?

I seen him on Friday night last and he was on crutches.  He said it would be a while before he is back playing.  What a pity, I am sure Cushendall will miss him for the final.  A nice lad at that also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 12, 2011, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
Anyhow, any word on the N. McManus injury?

I seen him on Friday night last and he was on crutches.  He said it would be a while before he is back playing.  What a pity, I am sure Cushendall will miss him for the final.  A nice lad at that also!
He's a great player. I never like to see anyone on crutches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 12, 2011, 04:05:36 PM
Mother of f**king christ! Great weekend of championship hurling and all people can do is constantly slabber about Loughgiel. Well done to the Shamrocks and good luck in the final as they are a club I have massive respect for

i take it your not from north antrim FG. if you where subjected to some of the venom from there fans at and away from matches you would be of a different opinion.

If they win the final fair dues but don't expect them to be gracious in victory of defeat, its not in there genes
The first year Dunloy won the championship I was one of the first from my parish over in Dunloy. I drank out of the cup in the village and the Bridge with their players and supporters , and indeed in the pound and the old clubhouse in Loughgiel. I was actually glad to see them players win it, and have nothing but respect for the club that produced the best club hurling team in Antrim in my life time.

We were also on the receiving end of a 33 point drubbing in Cushendall  by Dunloy and went round each of their players and wished them luck for that championship and all Ireland. When we beat them in the championship they were always more than gracious to us, as we were to them. So don't spew forth with your ill informed and downright incorrect bile!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2011, 09:47:14 PM
Great result, for lots of reasons!!!!   


Why? is that because you dislike Dunloy? or something else?

It's certainly one of  the reasons.

yeah read the above so you don't like us but but like to celebrate with us. heard it all now what a hypocrite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 06:28:44 PM
It was a joke ffs!  There was a smilie after the  line in the original post which i notice you failed to quote.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg1014385#msg1014385



It's a pity you can't get over your obvious hatred of all things Loughgiel and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 06:28:44 PM
It was a joke ffs!  There was a smilie after the  line in the original post which i notice you failed to quote.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg1014385#msg1014385



It's a pity you can't get over your obvious hatred of all things Loughgiel and move on.

When did i ever say the word hate, that's your club speciality but i must admit i couldn't care less if they won. have you ever wondered shy most clubs have no time for you. lets get one thing out of the road here right now, NO ONE  IS IN ENVY OF YOU, you have to get this into your head. imam not taring everyone with the same brush as there are some loughgeil people  100%. but if you want to generalise they are far the worst club fans in antrim. seen it first hand, the whole crowd roaring when the oppsing team shoots a wide, taking delight when a team representing antrim gets knocked out of the all ireland club series. it goes on and on. Ive never meet you so imam going to reserve my judgement on yourself but don't even try to defend where you ly in the popularity stakes and why that is the case
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.

Jeesus sie, sometimes you even make me cringe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
I have never wondered why because it's not true. And really, like yourself, could care less.  All I care about are the trophies on display in Fr. Healy park, which are quite abundant at the minute, unlike your own club.

quite abundant, could you list them for me please as i can only think off one. you will have to wind back ten years into the last century before medals and cups where plentiful. funny i never even thought of bringing this subject up seeing as up to last year things where pretty barren over your way and i thought it might be ignorant. this is my last correspondence on the subject to you as your last post would suggest your not well enough informed for a serious debate. good luck the in final and if you win it well done, its a pity these wishes and compliments weren't precipitated over the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 07:36:20 PM
I'm in a bad mood pdiddy, I can't get the Monday after the final off work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 12, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
Can we talk about hurling rather than who hates who the most.
what about this weekend - lughgiel not really tested yet. Rossa put it up to them a bit but loughgiel didn't really get going. Ballycatle didn't test them at all and loughgiel didn't need to get out of 2nd gear. The sendings off just made it easier.
Cushendall never looked in much danger against oisin although their keeper pulled off a save to prevent the draw, they always looked the better team. Galls are full of great athletes but only half of them would be good enough hurlers. Great fielders, great at closing down and very competitive and they play to their strength's very well, but in the end they weren't good enough to beat Cushendall when they eventually got going. In my opinion the 2 best teams are in the final. Cushendall seem to have the most to do esp without nmcm but they have some real quality and are sure to be out for revenge after losing out by 1 last year. The very sight of a red jersey is enough to get them going. Loughgiel will probably be favourites but can take nothing for granted. They too have some real quality and a well drilled defence will make it difficult for any team. Who will win, hard to call, I suppose its down to who turns up on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 08:00:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2011, 07:36:20 PM
I'm in a bad mood pdiddy, I can't get the Monday after the final off work!

Eh??? Mon and Tues booked off actually.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 12, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: wino on September 12, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
Can we talk about hurling rather than who hates who the most.
what about this weekend - lughgiel not really tested yet. Rossa put it up to them a bit but loughgiel didn't really get going. Ballycatle didn't test them at all and loughgiel didn't need to get out of 2nd gear. The sendings off just made it easier.
Cushendall never looked in much danger against oisin although their keeper pulled off a save to prevent the draw, they always looked the better team. Galls are full of great athletes but only half of them would be good enough hurlers. Great fielders, great at closing down and very competitive and they play to their strength's very well, but in the end they weren't good enough to beat Cushendall when they eventually got going. In my opinion the 2 best teams are in the final. Cushendall seem to have the most to do esp without nmcm but they have some real quality and are sure to be out for revenge after losing out by 1 last year. The very sight of a red jersey is enough to get them going. Loughgiel will probably be favourites but can take nothing for granted. They too have some real quality and a well drilled defence will make it difficult for any team. Who will win, hard to call, I suppose its down to who turns up on the day.

Yeah, shake your d**ks off lads, this pissin contest is over.  Tiresome or what? 

Cushendall couldn't have played much worse yesterday but still got the job done.  Got the rub of the green with the last goal alright.  Karl McKeegan fairly stepped up when they needed a leader.  Would have liked to see how St Galls got on in the final as their workrate was unbelievable and would have been nice to see.  Can't help thinking this is the way any of our clubs need to go in the All Ireland series to have any sort of success. 
As for the teams we have in the final I think Loughgiel would be the favourites.  Cushendall havn't got going yet and I'm not sure if they even look like they can step it up this year...but what more motivation do they need than a chance to redeem themselves after last year?  Might not have the quality of the last few years, but there's plenty of excitement in this years championship! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?

I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

I've refereed a few games and it's hard to get it right all the time and keep the players happy. So a couple of things I'd like to see done.

Advantage rule applies only in a forward position (midfield up)

Referee can call play back (like rugby) if, after 4/5 seconds there is no advantage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2011, 10:21:49 PM
MR2 I am forwarding your details to Croke park and RTE! Could not agree more with your post on advantage rule! And for my added tuppence - I think it's abused by refs to slant results!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 12, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?
Yoy gT
I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

I've refereed a few games and it's hard to get it right all the time and keep the players happy. So a couple of things I'd like to see done.

Advantage rule applies only in a forward position (midfield up)

Referee can call play back (like rugby) if, after 4/5 seconds there is no advantage

I like the idea mr2. St galls man I was standing beside at the match on sunday seemed to have a similar view. I wonder was I standing beside the infamous mr2 and didn't realise it :-o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 12, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
from BreakingNews.ie

Current Antrim Senior Hurling manager Dinny Cahill is being challenged for his position after two other nominations for the role were submitted.

Ex Antrim trainer Jerry Wallace and former Down hurling manager John Crossey have both been nominated for the role, along with Cahill.

The Tipperary native is in his second stint at the helm with the Saffrons having succeeded the joint managerial duo of Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton in 2010.

During that campaign Cahill was assisted by Wallace, but the Cork native resumed his partnership with Donal O'Grady this year in Limerick, with the Shannonsiders claiming Division 2 league silverware.

Crossey took charge of Antrim's minor hurlers this year, where they lost by 38 points in the All-Ireland quarter-final to Galway after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.

The Belfast native has been a contender for the Antrim Senior role in the past.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/nominations-made-for-antrim-hurling-post-520223.html#ixzz1XlWdRTqa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 12, 2011, 11:16:09 PM
Yes, good idea MR2.  The advantage being at the discretion of the referee is a great idea just like in rugby but as long as some players aren't using it (also like in rugby).  for example if a full back is coming out with the ball and is tugged back or slapped but he gets a hand pass away to another player, when does the advantage be over?

If the receiving player attempts to run past a player and fails, will it be a free for the earlier foul?  He did have the advantage. 

Either way, i think its a great idea and you should propose it as a motion to your AGM to bring to county convention to bring to the higher echelons (once you've thought it through of course)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
Off on a different topic, what's your thoughts on the advantage rule? A few games this year I have noticed that it's not working. Advantage is fine when a player is running in on goal and is being fouled but the referee allows the lad a few extra steps and he plants the ball into the net or off loads to a another player who scores.

Problem for me is when a defender is coming out with the ball and is being hauled, he makes a half clearance and the ball is then won by the opposition!! Would it not be better to blow and the defender clears with a 70 yard free?

I'm all for free flowing hurling but when an advantage becomes a disadvantage it's daft.

very good point, no better example than this years all ireland Pauric Maher is the one tipp player in their half back line that gets good ball into forwards but kilkenny forwards where hanging out of him this year when he was coming out with it so he was less effective with his deliveries. word of warning but Brian Cody is on the rules committee for hurling down there and theres a bit of an uproar as his influence could benefit Teams that specialise in cute dragging and pulling. Intresting stuff

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
I thought P Maher especially against Dublin was looking for and got plenty of frees but gavin wasn't having it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2011, 12:38:39 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2011, 12:05:51 AM
I thought P Maher especially against Dublin was looking for and got plenty of frees but gavin wasn't having it

yeah he  did go down very handy when bottled up but I'm referring to the times when hes was coming out with the ball and being held back. happend to tipp midfielders as well. everyone is complimenting the job done on corbet and Kelly by cats full backline but if get a chance look at last years match to this one, look at the quality of ball going in, bread and butter for good full backs which hickey and tyrrell are. tipps guys couldn't get striking while on the front foot due to sometimes borderling line restraint. fair play to cody for this game plan. I'm only using this as an example for the point MR2 IS bringing up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 12, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
from BreakingNews.ie

Current Antrim Senior Hurling manager Dinny Cahill is being challenged for his position after two other nominations for the role were submitted.

Ex Antrim trainer Jerry Wallace and former Down hurling manager John Crossey have both been nominated for the role, along with Cahill.

The Tipperary native is in his second stint at the helm with the Saffrons having succeeded the joint managerial duo of Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton in 2010.

During that campaign Cahill was assisted by Wallace, but the Cork native resumed his partnership with Donal O'Grady this year in Limerick, with the Shannonsiders claiming Division 2 league silverware.

Crossey took charge of Antrim's minor hurlers this year, where they lost by 38 points in the All-Ireland quarter-final to Galway after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.

The Belfast native has been a contender for the Antrim Senior role in the past.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/nominations-made-for-antrim-hurling-post-520223.html#ixzz1XlWdRTqa

Please someone tell me that is a joke?
Title: Amaidí
Post by: drici on September 13, 2011, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 12, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
from BreakingNews.ie

after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.


A most unusual 'slender final win over Armagh.'

Ulster Minor Hurling Championship Final 2011
Aontroim 4-16  Doire 1-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 13, 2011, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 12, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
from BreakingNews.ie

Current Antrim Senior Hurling manager Dinny Cahill is being challenged for his position after two other nominations for the role were submitted.

Ex Antrim trainer Jerry Wallace and former Down hurling manager John Crossey have both been nominated for the role, along with Cahill.

The Tipperary native is in his second stint at the helm with the Saffrons having succeeded the joint managerial duo of Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton in 2010.

During that campaign Cahill was assisted by Wallace, but the Cork native resumed his partnership with Donal O'Grady this year in Limerick, with the Shannonsiders claiming Division 2 league silverware.

Crossey took charge of Antrim's minor hurlers this year, where they lost by 38 points in the All-Ireland quarter-final to Galway after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.

The Belfast native has been a contender for the Antrim Senior role in the past.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/nominations-made-for-antrim-hurling-post-520223.html#ixzz1XlWdRTqa

Please someone tell me that is a joke?

It's a joke. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 13, 2011, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 12, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
from BreakingNews.ie

Current Antrim Senior Hurling manager Dinny Cahill is being challenged for his position after two other nominations for the role were submitted.

Ex Antrim trainer Jerry Wallace and former Down hurling manager John Crossey have both been nominated for the role, along with Cahill.

The Tipperary native is in his second stint at the helm with the Saffrons having succeeded the joint managerial duo of Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton in 2010.

During that campaign Cahill was assisted by Wallace, but the Cork native resumed his partnership with Donal O'Grady this year in Limerick, with the Shannonsiders claiming Division 2 league silverware.

Crossey took charge of Antrim's minor hurlers this year, where they lost by 38 points in the All-Ireland quarter-final to Galway after capturing Ulster honours thanks to a slender final win over Armagh.

The Belfast native has been a contender for the Antrim Senior role in the past.

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/nominations-made-for-antrim-hurling-post-520223.html#ixzz1XlWdRTqa

Please someone tell me that is a joke?
jerry wallace will get.  He more or less took them last time. From what i here he is the man for the job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 01:32:42 PM
Why would he step away citing the traveling as the main reason as then let his name go forward for it?
Or was there more to it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Are they separate nominations? Crossey isn't going with Wallace? is he?

What's people thoughts on Wallace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
I dont know that much about him but the players seemed to talk quite highly about him.
But its definitely a case of A.B.C.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 01:58:01 PM
HS very good

If Dinny wants it he should be allowed to continue, after the service he has given (agree with him in all things or not) he deserves to decide himself when enough is enough. No one was standing in line when he took it on again anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 13, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2011, 01:58:01 PM
HS very good

If Dinny wants it he should be allowed to continue, after the service he has given (agree with him in all things or not) he deserves to decide himself when enough is enough. No one was standing in line when he took it on again anyway.

Least we all forget as the debate gathers momentum Dinny is paid as will Wallace, its an income in difficult times lads, so when we talk about service remember it comes at a high cost!, they are receiving a healthy remuneration like most involved these days. Which undoubtedly has a knock on in the clubs and at the turnstiles. And please leave out the lectures about expenses etc etc etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2011, 05:35:53 PM
good point to make

Puts a perspective why 8 pound is being charged for championship matches and how that £8 fee is stopping people from attending our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2011, 05:51:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2011, 05:35:53 PM
good point to make

Puts a perspective why 8 pound is being charged for championship matches and how that £8 fee is stopping people from attending our games.
A fiver would have been grand to pay on Sunday night for a semi final game. I'll nearly turned up in my gear to save the few pound :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 13, 2011, 07:25:15 PM
I don't think they realise that if they charged a small amount less, they would get more people in and therefore make more money.  The law of average economics or something I think its called.  It's how ASDA etc make shit loads of money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 13, 2011, 07:45:37 PM
Listen the reality of the situation is that if CA ;D or Antrim County Board where offering expenses of 50/60/70k plus which in all fairness is a reality now, then they would be queued around the block for the job, Christ we may even get Davey Fitz for another 10k! Jesus some x antrim players/tv celebs are asking clubs for nearly half that amount ;)

I know get FTF to take a cut in his wages and that will cover at least half, or give his expenses over for the year and we can reduce the gates to £2 for championship! As usual the volunteers in the county do all the hard work for people to come in charge literally an arm and a leg in"Expenses" to take the credit. Maybe the revenue need to look at that instead of Referees match fees....................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
Has the hurling final been fixed yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 13, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
Has the hurling final been fixed yet?

Yeah it's been agreed that Shamrocks will win by 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 13, 2011, 09:26:06 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:19:18 PM
Has the hurling final been fixed yet?

25th Sept. Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Cheers.  Looking forward to it.  What's on as the opener?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 13, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Cheers.  Looking forward to it.  What's on as the opener?

Not sure there's any match on before it.  Intermediate/Junior/Minor finals already been played and the football final is on the Saturday night as far as I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:51:25 PM
It was better when the two finals were on the same day (get the bogball out of the way first of course)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2011, 09:54:45 PM
What or who is ftf?
And on an entirely random note - cushendun in division 4?
Any loose ends in the leagues - or is it shut up shop until casement on 25th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 13, 2011, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on September 13, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 13, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
Cheers.  Looking forward to it.  What's on as the opener?

Not sure there's any match on before it.  Intermediate/Junior/Minor finals already been played and the football final is on the Saturday night as far as I know.
U16 final between Cushendall & Rossa I think...

Plus this
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3105
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 13, 2011, 11:24:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2011, 09:54:45 PM
What or who is ftf?
And on an entirely random note - cushendun in division 4?
Any loose ends in the leagues - or is it shut up shop until casement on 25th?

Loughgiel play Portaferry in the league on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled John on September 14, 2011, 12:51:56 PM
Folks any idea who the 3 nominations have lined up as their backroom staff.  would be important im sure and interesting to see who Crossey may look to bring in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Is Crossey not a development officer, thus precluding him from the Antrim job?

I wouldnt let him near it in any event.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 14, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Is Crossey not a development officer, thus precluding him from the Antrim job?

I wouldnt let him near it in any event.

Yeah as far as I know he works in Down.

Couldnt agree more, why any one would even nominate him is totally confusing to me.

I wouldnt care if he was bringing Brian Cody into coach the team, I wouldnt let him within 50 yards of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2011, 01:39:18 PM
What's your beef with Crossey? The two outside men are probably better alright but not many Antrim men would be.

What are the two 'own nest featherers' planning anyway? Very quiet.

My beef is he hasnt a notion. Be stepping back 20 years to hand him the reins and would probably signal a mass defection from the squad anyway. Would you play for him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 04:13:12 PM
My opinion on Dinny and the u21 team was noted at the time, he saw what was coming and got well shot.

Just because others have got it for the wrong reasons doesnt mean Crossey should get it to equal that out.

Taking on the minors when no else wanted it isnt a recommendation for anyone for the senior job.

There is a difference between coaching kids in primary schools and that level to actually having the respect to coach at SIC level, I think he would be ploughing a lonely furrow if he for some ungodly reason did get the job.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 04:34:42 PM
Yes and the game has changed moved on, time for fresh people and fresh ideas IMO

Im not calling him a joke or anything like that, he has done work in Antrim hurling or on the ground, as have most of the contributors on here.

IMO he is not the standard or the type of character I would want anywhere near my county team but that as I said is my opinion.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 14, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2011, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 04:13:12 PM
My opinion on Dinny and the u21 team was noted at the time, he saw what was coming and got well shot.

Just because others have got it for the wrong reasons doesnt mean Crossey should get it to equal that out.

Taking on the minors when no else wanted it isnt a recommendation for anyone for the senior job.

There is a difference between coaching kids in primary schools and that level to actually having the respect to coach at SIC level, I think he would be ploughing a lonely furrow if he for some ungodly reason did get the job.
No, but for that he deserves a bit of respect, rather than called a joke. The same way we were saying that Dominic Kearns shouldn't be called a joke after the U21 debacle.

Dinny getting shot of the u21s is a f**king joke. Treated them with total contempt. For a paid job, it should be warts and all.

How other managers have weaseled their way into the job is a joke.

A man who continuously does groundwork for Antrim hurling and who takes on the shit others don't care enough to do getting a nomination is, imo, not a joke at all.

He has managed SIC before btw....

Lads I don't think Dinny can be blamed for this.  He tried something different this year after the trouncing by Tipp last year because him and Jerry Wallace hadn't a clue who any of the lads were.  This was partly due to having a handful of trainings and more to do with the attitude of everyone in this county to the U21 setup.  Players don't want to play, supporters don't want to watch and the Ulster competition is pure sh1te.
When he asked Bubble to take the team obviously he thought having a man who knows who should be in the squad in charge would get more of them out.  Bubble would know plenty of the Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall fellas, but in the end it didn't work.  At least he tried something different from last year.
I think more of a problem lies with the way the whole thing is viewed by the teams in the county.  I know plenty of lads who got nothing but guff from managers and other senior players when they went back to their club training...why would they be arsed playing for an U21 Antrim team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2011, 06:05:29 PM
Have to say I agree with hardstation here - Crossey has moved with the times and is a fine man from what I know of him. I think nag maybe some pre-determined views clouding your opinion. That's said the players may be similar to nag and not give him a chance so there is probably no chance he will get the job.
For me Dinny side stepped the under21s because he knew we were going to get embarrassed and he didn't want to be a part of it. Is that the man we want? Sorry but Dinny has been fantastic bug he has had his time we need to draw a line under it.
I think we should give Wallace a go. Southern knowledge, outside perspective and new impetus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 14, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
NAG, who would your choice be then?  We all know that we're putting a sticking plaster over Antrim hurling by always looking at who could improve the Senior teams.  We're not going to win the All-Ireland for the foreseeable future!!

I think its a good thing that someone native is showing interest in getting stuck into the job and for certain he shouldn't be getting called a joke on here for it.

As someone wrote before, you seem to have made up your mind already.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
If we know it's a sticking plaster then why do we get overly interested fiddling with these names while rome burns?

Its the sustainability of proper structures and then finding an excess of decent coaches round the county who'll look after development squads and then getting as many clubs/parent of talented youngsters to properly commit to the development squad system. Don't expect any massive changes in fortune at county level until that can be delivered. I don't believe it can because the people and the will isn't there in the right numbers to make it so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 14, 2011, 08:04:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
If we know it's a sticking plaster then why do we get overly interested fiddling with these names while rome burns?

Its the sustainability of proper structures and then finding an excess of decent coaches round the county who'll look after development squads and then getting as many clubs/parent of talented youngsters to properly commit to the development squad system. Don't expect any massive changes in fortune at county level until that can be delivered. I don't believe it can because the people and the will isn't there in the right numbers to make it so.
You can get all the parents/youngsters you want to committ to the county development squads, but then what happens?  Their respective clubs have an game/an important game and then, it's sod your county development squad, we are going to play for our club!  Club before County me thinks!  All clubs are guilty off it, more particularly the north antrim clubs, but probably just wont admit to it.  Until Clubs see the bigger picture in pursuit of future county success, which we all yearn for, the staus quo will remain!  Do you think this would be the case in Cork, Waterford, Kilkenny or Tipp?  Each parent would crawl over broken glass to ensure their youngster would eventually be playing for their county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
You can get all the parents/youngsters you want to committ to the county development squads,

No we can't and there arn't enough interested coaches in this county either. Add to that the fact that there is minimal investment in the development squad system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 14, 2011, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 14, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Is Crossey not a development officer, thus precluding him from the Antrim job?

I wouldnt let him near it in any event.

Yeah as far as I know he works in Down.

Couldnt agree more, why any one would even nominate him is totally confusing to me.

I wouldnt care if he was bringing Brian Cody into coach the team, I wouldnt let him within 50 yards of it.
So whats stopping you from putting your name in the hat then?  I for one would not go for any "home grown" candidate, however, I  will make the exception by nominating you, given you are so damning of everyone else!  I am secretly hoping you're job, will preclude you also though!  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 14, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 08:10:21 PM
You can get all the parents/youngsters you want to committ to the county development squads,

No we can't and there arn't enough interested coaches in this county either. Add to that the fact that there is minimal investment in the development squad system.
parents/youngsters you want to committ to the county development squads

You're words, not mine!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Oh.. I get you now. So you basically ignored everything I commented on and are saying that regardless, clubs will always be at fault for the poor development structure...I disagree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2011, 09:16:23 PM
The mindset in Antrim is poor, we are not as committed as the lads down south, now in saying that there are lads on that county team who would gladly give all they have to the team but we need that from the ground up.

All the juvenile teams and all the development teams need to have regular games, tournaments and assessments of their abilities, strengths and weaknesses. Constantly competing with southern teams. They won't have to go as far south now as Dublin have a serious amount of teams that are playing at a higher grade than us and winning their own provincial championships.

Obviously this requires committed and well coached coaches who have hurling in their blood, as said parents also who are willing to get behind it also and of course the clubs. It should not be a burden really on the clubs if managed right. As championships are not till later in the season and if your best players are getting top class training/games then it will only benefit them in the long run.

As for the poor run of form with the minors and under 21's here's a thought. Why do the under 21's and minor managers not arrange challenge games on the days that the Seniors are playing? With the leagues changing next year there are some tasty games ahead. What better way to prepare and gel players for the Championships than playing top teams. This would not be a burden on club team as the club would be not playing games also that day.

Ok I left one thing out that we don't have MONEY. We don't have a cent to pay for it so Fcuk that idea :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 15, 2011, 09:34:42 AM
Owen Elliott for the County Final! Just hot of the press, you heard it here first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2011, 12:04:28 PM
We'll take Elliott all day long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
Would an hour not do ye?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 15, 2011, 01:01:38 PM
What has Dinny done???

People need to clear their vision - we have been floating about for too long, the odd quarter appearance! If thats our limit then fine.

Out with all the shite (players and 'hasbeens' included) try something new, risky, theres nothing to lose and everything to gain!

Give it to some young fella who wants to try new things (if he is out there (skull/nag? ;D) hate that counties keep going back to the same names - but  just shift teams!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2011, 01:19:13 PM
Dinny has had us performing in the championship like no other manager is what he has done. Yes we all frown upon his attitude to the league and yes we would love it to change.

There are several championship games over the last two years we would not have nearly won without Dinny. Carlow would have beat us last year(and beat us well) and Dublin would have beat us by 20+ points. Remember Dublin the previous year when it wasn't Dinny - it was an embarassment.

Come the championship he has us playing infinitely better hurling than any ulster manager ever has.

Without Dinny teams like Laois, Carlow, Westmeath would beat us in championship or if not they would compete with us. Let's not forget we do not have the personnel to compete at the very top level - for us to beat Dublin last year was, in my view, almost as good a result as Offaly in 1989. I don't know of one other manager who would have got us that.

U21s I don't know the whole story on but the U21 championship in ulster is a farce and the whole thing needs looked at. We basically have no games all year when Munster and Leinster have several top teams playing off against each other in meaningful hard hitting games and we're expecting to compete with that coming from the cold. Ulster needs to be put in Leinster for it - it's the only way. We expect players to train their a**es off all year when other teams don't even field in it and they are effectively training for one game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 15, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2011, 08:49:29 PM
Oh.. I get you now. So you basically ignored everything I commented on and are saying that regardless, clubs will always be at fault for the poor development structure...I disagree
And your entitled to disagree, as am I, or maybe not??????? :-\

So if not the clubs, who?  This I cant wait for I am all ears?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2011, 05:31:33 PM
Theres a difference between ignoring and disagreeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???

I think Mc Garry is abroad, not sure about McGhee. Sad thing is they are the two best keepers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 15, 2011, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???

I think Mc Garry is abroad, not sure about McGhee. Sad thing is they are the two best keepers.

Yip 2 v good keepers but we're happy with DD :-)

McGarry's in Sydney btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 16, 2011, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???

I think Mc Garry is abroad, not sure about McGhee. Sad thing is they are the two best keepers.

Heard McGhee fell out with Shane Elliot during the year - why that young fella Brogan was in nets.  McGhee stormed out, came back a couple of games later and Elliot told him he wouldn't walk back onto the panel.  Also heard talk that he'd sounded out a transfer to Cushendall but they told him where to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: gelvis on September 16, 2011, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???

I think Mc Garry is abroad, not sure about McGhee. Sad thing is they are the two best keepers.

Heard McGhee fell out with Shane Elliot during the year - why that young fella Brogan was in nets.  McGhee stormed out, came back a couple of games later and Elliot told him he wouldn't walk back onto the panel.  Also heard talk that he'd sounded out a transfer to Cushendall but they told him where to go.

Well then you heard wrong. Reality was that McGhee didn't properly commit to training (awol for months) at the start of the year. If your not going to work with the rest of your team mates then theres no way you can waltz back when it suits you. Its called standards. A big loss for us but the player made his decision. Hopefully he'll be able to commit fully next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 16, 2011, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: gelvis on September 16, 2011, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: hurl4ever on September 15, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
quick question....were has ryan mcgarry and gareth magee gone? probably the two best keepers in antrim???

I think Mc Garry is abroad, not sure about McGhee. Sad thing is they are the two best keepers.

Heard McGhee fell out with Shane Elliot during the year - why that young fella Brogan was in nets.  McGhee stormed out, came back a couple of games later and Elliot told him he wouldn't walk back onto the panel.  Also heard talk that he'd sounded out a transfer to Cushendall but they told him where to go.

Well then you heard wrong. Reality was that McGhee didn't properly commit to training (awol for months) at the start of the year. If your not going to work with the rest of your team mates then theres no way you can waltz back when it suits you. Its called standards. A big loss for us but the player made his decision. Hopefully he'll be able to commit fully next year.

And what have you said differently to me that means I heard wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2011, 04:39:31 PM
What you wrote could be interpreted in many different ways. A fall out had nothing to do with anything. Management holding their ground when it comes to training properly with teammates was what it was about ..end of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 16, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
So did he ask about a transfer to Cushendall then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 16, 2011, 05:55:06 PM
You were wrong in stating gareth fell out with Shane over Chrissy Brogan, Gareth had already left the panel Long before Chrissy kept goals for the first time at the feis final, I don't think there was any great falling out. He was living in Cushendall and couldn't/wouldn't travel to training.

Has been an excellent player for Dunloy and when he does commit, he does so fully.

This season is over for dunloy, we'll draw a line under it and assess in the new year which players are going to be available and willing to commit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 16, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2011, 04:39:31 PM
What you wrote could be interpreted in many different ways. A fall out had nothing to do with anything. Management holding their ground when it comes to training properly with teammates was what it was about ..end of
Somewhat economical with the truth there lad. I sense you continually compromise honesty for the sake of parochialism!  A Dunloy trait maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 16, 2011, 11:19:22 PM
Division 2 - I was looking at the leagues there, St Galls must be kicking themselves.  If they win their remaining games (and they've a load of games to play as usual for them), they would only be 1 point off the Town and promotion.  They really do need to give it a good lash next year - it will always be a bit tougher for them than most teams given how much is given to football each year (Ulster Championship etc) but for me, and I have said it prior to their SHC exploits, they are the most up and coming hurling team in Belfast.

-Rossa are beaten too many times by Division 2 teams - how frustrating must that be for good Rossa hurling men?
-Gortnamona seem to be on a downward spiral - what in the name of God went wrong there, I always thought they would have come good or at least been a challenging team.  They went from SHC to being dumped out of the IHC (normally their championship when they are in it) by Ahoghill.
-Lamh Derg have got their act together it seems and the UIHC will be good for their club.
-I see Sarsfields are up now - good to see.  They also seem to be on the up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 17, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
Quote from: 4father on September 16, 2011, 11:19:22 PM
Division 2 - I was looking at the leagues there, St Galls must be kicking themselves.  If they win their remaining games (and they've a load of games to play as usual for them), they would only be 1 point off the Town and promotion.  They really do need to give it a good lash next year - it will always be a bit tougher for them than most teams given how much is given to football each year (Ulster Championship etc) but for me, and I have said it prior to their SHC exploits, they are the most up and coming hurling team in Belfast.

-Rossa are beaten too many times by Division 2 teams - how frustrating must that be for good Rossa hurling men?
-Gortnamona seem to be on a downward spiral - what in the name of God went wrong there, I always thought they would have come good or at least been a challenging team.  They went from SHC to being dumped out of the IHC (normally their championship when they are in it) by Ahoghill.
-Lamh Derg have got their act together it seems and the UIHC will be good for their club.
-I see Sarsfields are up now - good to see.  They also seem to be on the up.

Maybe check your sums on that one again - B'castle have still 2 games to play (one against St. Gall's)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 17, 2011, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 16, 2011, 05:55:06 PM
You were wrong in stating gareth fell out with Shane over Chrissy Brogan, Gareth had already left the panel Long before Chrissy kept goals for the first time at the feis final, I don't think there was any great falling out. He was living in Cushendall and couldn't/wouldn't travel to training.

Has been an excellent player for Dunloy and when he does commit, he does so fully.

This season is over for dunloy, we'll draw a line under it and assess in the new year which players are going to be available and willing to commit.

No no, I never said they fell out over Chrissy Brogan.  I said they fell out and that was why Chrissy Brogan was doing nets this year.  I was told that McGhee and Elliot shared a few words in the changing room after you were beat (can't for the life of me remember what game) and McGhee stormed out.  When he turned up a few weeks later Elliot told him that if he walked back onto the panel he was quitting.  Couldn't tell you if it was the other players or who told McGhee to stay away after that. 
I do apologise if this too can be interpreted in many ways.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 17, 2011, 12:34:50 PM
You were again told wrong, no words in no changing room.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 17, 2011, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 17, 2011, 12:23:55 AM
Quote from: 4father on September 16, 2011, 11:19:22 PM
Division 2 - I was looking at the leagues there, St Galls must be kicking themselves.  If they win their remaining games (and they've a load of games to play as usual for them), they would only be 1 point off the Town and promotion.  They really do need to give it a good lash next year - it will always be a bit tougher for them than most teams given how much is given to football each year (Ulster Championship etc) but for me, and I have said it prior to their SHC exploits, they are the most up and coming hurling team in Belfast.

-Rossa are beaten too many times by Division 2 teams - how frustrating must that be for good Rossa hurling men?
-Gortnamona seem to be on a downward spiral - what in the name of God went wrong there, I always thought they would have come good or at least been a challenging team.  They went from SHC to being dumped out of the IHC (normally their championship when they are in it) by Ahoghill.
-Lamh Derg have got their act together it seems and the UIHC will be good for their club.
-I see Sarsfields are up now - good to see.  They also seem to be on the up.

Maybe check your sums on that one again - B'castle have still 2 games to play (one against St. Gall's)

Sorry, you're right. I was judging that on that St Galls would beat Ballycastle (hence me saying, if st galls win all their remaining games) but didn't add in Ballycastles other last game.  My bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 17, 2011, 01:50:40 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 17, 2011, 12:34:50 PM
You were again told wrong, no words in no changing room.

My bad, I'll have to give that boy a good kick up the arse then for giving me bad information.  Where did they have the words then?  Pappy's?  Brogan's?  Maybe it was outside mass?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 17, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
They didn't actually have any words, that was the problem. Last comment on this, I personally believe stories were carried back, possibly exaggerated, to ensure the player wouldn't return.

When Magee commits, he does 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 17, 2011, 02:11:58 PM
Anymore nominations for the Senior Hurling managers post, who is the favourite to get it, i'd say Dinny has earned another year if he wants it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 17, 2011, 03:22:45 PM
Dinnys for Galway as coach.... Jerry wallis a cert
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2011, 04:10:04 PM
Looking forward to gelvis's next story. Through the round window I hope
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
So did Magee walk or was he pushed?? ;D ;D

Shite all to talk about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
So did Magee walk or was he pushed?? ;D ;D

Shite all to talk about
As I said ealrlier Milltown, "Somewhat economical with the truth there lad. I sense you continually compromise honesty for the sake of parochialism!  A Dunloy trait maybe" ? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2011, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
So did Magee walk or was he pushed?? ;D ;D

Shite all to talk about
As I said ealrlier Milltown, "Somewhat economical with the truth there lad.

Why don't you spit out "the truth" then. The irony is killing me  ::)

Some drama being made where there is none
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2011, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 12:26:10 PM
So did Magee walk or was he pushed?? ;D ;D

Shite all to talk about
As I said ealrlier Milltown, "Somewhat economical with the truth there lad.

Why don't you spit out "the truth" then. The irony is killing me  ::)

Some drama being made where there is none
Ah come on now lad, sure  aren't you the one who is better placed to tell us the right version of events?  Come on, give the boys a lash with the right, honest, truthful story, come on, spill it out lad, we wont hold it against you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
So no nominations for M. Johnston then?  The anti St. Johns bias prevails I see!  Maybe not enough money in it for him?  Maybe one of the key critics on here will put their name in the hat, given they have all the experience/soloutions to cure Antrim's ill's????  What's the chances?  ;) :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
So no nominations for M. Johnston then?  The anti St. Johns bias prevails I see!  Maybe not enough money in it for him?  Maybe one of the key critics on here will put their name in the hat, given they have all the soloutions????  What's the chances?  ;) :-\

What's the chances this is your, 10th username on here in the last few years. That is a conservative estimate too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
So no nominations for M. Johnston then?  The anti St. Johns bias prevails I see!  Maybe not enough money in it for him?  Maybe one of the key critics on here will put their name in the hat, given they have all the soloutions????  What's the chances?  ;) :-\

What's the chances this is your, 10th username on here in the last few years. That is a conservative estimate too.
Totally wrong!  This is the first time I have came to this forum and I cant belive the SHit* and crap  that is bandied about by so called Antrim Gaels, absolutely amazing, psuedo experts!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 18, 2011, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?

Why don't you answer that one yourself......

Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 14, 2011, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 14, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 14, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Is Crossey not a development officer, thus precluding him from the Antrim job?

I wouldnt let him near it in any event.

Yeah as far as I know he works in Down.

Couldnt agree more, why any one would even nominate him is totally confusing to me.

I wouldnt care if he was bringing Brian Cody into coach the team, I wouldnt let him within 50 yards of it.
So whats stopping you from putting your name in the hat then?  I for one would not go for any "home grown" candidate, however, I  will make the exception by nominating you, given you are so damning of everyone else!  I am secretly hoping you're job, will preclude you also though!  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 08:50:55 PM
Do you know the users here and what they have done or continue for their club or county? Why don't you throw your hat in Bog
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2011, 08:50:55 PM
Do you know the users here and what they have done or continue for their club or county? Why don't you throw your hat in Bog
I get the sense Miltown the "Users" on here are nothing but hasbeens, shysters who really are offering/contributing nothing to our great county, and only use this forum as a means of sniping and venting pure hogwash.

| would only consider throwing my hat in, if the was a complete clearing of the decks at HQ, if you know what I mean?????  The demise of the current incumbents i.e. PO'C, JE, JM, TE, to name but a few!  Maybe then, just maybe then!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
Sure share you CV with us there and show us you're not a sniper, venter or person full of hogwash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2011, 09:59:05 PM
So you're not a shyster a has been or indeed an incumbent, so we know what you're not. Just how would you describe yourself "lad"? I suppose a prophet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
So no nominations for M. Johnston then?  The anti St. Johns bias prevails I see!  Maybe not enough money in it for him?  Maybe one of the key critics on here will put their name in the hat, given they have all the soloutions????  What's the chances?  ;) :-\

What's the chances this is your, 10th username on here in the last few years. That is a conservative estimate too.
Totally wrong!  This is the first time I have came to this forum and I cant belive the SHit* and crap  that is bandied about by so called Antrim Gaels, absolutely amazing, psuedo experts!!!!!!!!!
Time to cast off the cloak of anonymity ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 18, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
What about M. Johnston for the Antrim job?  It could'nt be any worse than whats in the pot already?
So no nominations for M. Johnston then?  The anti St. Johns bias prevails I see!  Maybe not enough money in it for him?  Maybe one of the key critics on here will put their name in the hat, given they have all the soloutions????  What's the chances?  ;) :-\

What's the chances this is your, 10th username on here in the last few years. That is a conservative estimate too.
Totally wrong!  This is the first time I have came to this forum and I cant belive the SHit* and crap  that is bandied about by so called Antrim Gaels, absolutely amazing, psuedo experts!!!!!!!!!
Time to cast off the cloak of anonymity ;)
OK TB, you first then????   I don't think so somehow!  Well, off to bed wi ye all!  Work in the morning, a very early start for some!  I see I am just deflecting some of the fleck from poor SIE!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 19, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
BAC there is definitely an air of familiarity with some of those words and phrases ;) Me thinks you have been on many times in the past and keep this going one of the MODS may do it again if not already. Very aggressive may be more underlying issues at work here :o Minder just may well be right, me thinks there may be a "Cat" ;) amongst the proverbial pigeons ::)

To the final lads, Shamrocks by what, MR whats the spread in PP?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2011, 04:39:18 PM
Don't you be worrying about me BAC, sure we're well used to it in Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2011, 08:34:40 AM
Cushendall by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2011, 08:59:42 AM
What was the verdict on NmcM? Is he going to miss the final, cant see Cushendall getting close to them without him in reality.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2011, 09:39:33 AM
Nag, Neil got good news of sorts, he has done his medial ligament and he'll be out for 6 weeks and will miss the final, however he'll be back for the All Ireland semi in Feb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2011, 09:57:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 20, 2011, 09:39:33 AM
Nag, Neil got good news of sorts, he has done his medial ligament and he'll be out for 6 weeks and will miss the final, however he'll be back for the All Ireland semi in Feb.

Really want to know where this confidence is coming from JJ - havent beat anyone of note in the last number of years and last two times been to Casement been a bit of let down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
Think this game will be close, remember when these two met last time, Neil i think broke a bone in his hand early on and they kept him on the pitch when they probably shouldn't have.

Cushendall have had two hard games of late and that should help them, Loughgiel hammered a poor Ballycastle team so prep could have been better.

It will be who wants it the most on the day for me, another low scoring game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2011, 10:31:41 AM
I have been told Neil McM will definitely play.  This might not necesssarily be from the start of the game but he is expected to feature.  Think it will be a tight match with only a couple of scores in it.  Going to go for Loughgiel by 4 points.

Anyone know arrnagements with seating etc.  What is admission fees?  Do you need a ticket for the stand?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2011, 11:45:06 AM
If it's like last year there'll be a charge at the turnstiles and a charge at the stand. As far as the match itself will go I think it could be similar to last year with the same outcome. Loughgiel by 1 or 2 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2011, 12:03:11 PM
I don't think tickets are required for the stand. I'd imagine it'll be £12 - £15. Not 100% though.

Now that Loughgiel have the monkey of their back I think they'll win this one as they'll be able to play much more free;y than in previous years. Cushendall haven't been great this year and without McManus I would fear they don't have the scoring threat to beat Loughgiel. I would prefer to see Cushendall win but I can't see it this year.

Hopefully it'll be a tight game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 20, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2011, 10:31:41 AM
I have been told Neil McM will definitely play.  This might not necesssarily be from the start of the game but he is expected to feature.  Think it will be a tight match with only a couple of scores in it.  Going to go for Loughgiel by 4 points.

Anyone know arrnagements with seating etc.  What is admission fees?  Do you need a ticket for the stand?

I cant see Neil playing to much of a risk for further Injury
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
I take the county have decided to make the admission fees top secret?! What are they hoping to gain?! It is like a siege mentality without a siege!! Simple information!!
I honestly cannot see Cushendall winning without McManus - if he was fit I think they would make ammends for last year but without his playmaking and scores I think the Shams will score enough to lead with a bit to spare in the closing minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
I take the county have decided to make the admission fees top secret?! What are they hoping to gain?! It is like a siege mentality without a siege!! Simple information!!
I honestly cannot see Cushendall winning without McManus - if he was fit I think they would make ammends for last year but without his playmaking and scores I think the Shams will score enough to lead with a bit to spare in the closing minutes.
;)
Ok McManus played against Glenarrife, they only won by 3 he didn't play against us and they won by a point. He played against Loughgiel in the County final last year and they lost by a point. In that game he was injured and maybe should not have played as he was not that great (due to the injury)

Loughgiel scrapped past Rossa, they hammered a Ballycastle (without winker) team that in the end lost two players. Last year they played (along with Cushendall) crap in the final and manged to win by a point. I don't see a big improvement from either teams on Sunday and that's why either team can win it. Neil is a big loss but he's only one player and teams can play better (Winker) without their star players. It's a team sport

Another close final decided by the referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 20, 2011, 03:38:22 PM
£10 a head for both finals - not sure if there will be a further fee to get into the stand - nothing mentioned about that yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 03:42:37 PM
Aye thats 20 quid overall FFS!!

Heading to both finals a couple of pints, food taxi's/fuel and you'll have spent a right few quid.

Will have to just head in at halftime ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2011, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 03:42:37 PM
Aye thats 20 quid overall FFS!!

Heading to both finals a couple of pints, food taxi's/fuel and you'll have spent a right few quid.

Will have to just head in at halftime ;)

entry £20, pints £40, food £20, taxi's £20.

Your team being in the final every year/the dall beating the shamrocks- priceless  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 20, 2011, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 19, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
BAC there is definitely an air of familiarity with some of those words and phrases ;) Me thinks you have been on many times in the past and keep this going one of the MODS may do it again if not already. Very aggressive may be more underlying issues at work here :o Minder just may well be right, me thinks there may be a "Cat" ;) amongst the proverbial pigeons ::)

To the final lads, Shamrocks by what, MR whats the spread in PP?
Oh so wrong chum!  How did you know I was a carpet fitter, now thats really interesting? Amazing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2011, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 17, 2011, 03:22:45 PM
Dinnys for Galway as coach.... Jerry wallis a cert

This for definite?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2011, 05:37:03 PM
The reason I'm confident is that everyone seems to have forgotten that Cushendall never really perform too well in the league or the feis. This time last year everyone was talking about how bad Loughgiel are and that Cushendall would win the final. Last year we played terrible and Loughgiel played to the pin of their collar and we still only lost by a point. Loughgiel won a handy Ulster championship, no one really tested them, in previous years ourselves or Dunloy were well tested by the likes of Ballycran and Dungiven. Loughgiel didn't perform at all well against a limited enough O Loughlin Gaels in the All Ireland. As usual Loughgiel have been impressive in the league, however they were impressive in the league 6 years in a row and got beat in the final every year. I don't know where this idea that Loughgiel are world beaters comes from, in truth the only big result they have had was last years final. Each Loughgiel players that takes the field will have 1 championship medal, all of our boys will have a minimum of 3 with lads like Declan Mc Killop, Odhran Scullion, Karl Mc Keegan and Aidan Delargy will have 5. Do you think if the game is tight the doubts won't creep in for Loughgiel? Cushendall by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2011, 05:46:23 PM
I don't think we've been overly impressive in the league at all. It was Dunloy's to lose and isn't over just yet. The main difference is that last year we yet again tied up going into the final 10 but pulled it back unlike previous years. Also, maybe you lot over there have forgotten, we won it! Cushendall haven't been impressive in any competition but have the knack of staying to the end, that's why I think it'll be another tight one. I have a lot of faith in our forwards who have been performing well this year. That's why I think we'll pull through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 20, 2011, 05:55:47 PM
Paddy Power Match Betting    
Loughgiel Shamrocks    8/15
   
Draw    9/1
   
Cushendall    7/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 20, 2011, 06:32:09 PM
Neil broke his collar bone 10mins into last years final & take it from me he will def not be making an appearance on the pitch on sunday unless as i hope the 'dall win & he is on celebrating!!! i would be confident that we can win on sunday as if someone had told me on the morning of the final last year  that the shammrocks would score 1-9, i would have tore their arm off. yes they still scored more than us but im just saying that form goes right out the window on this one & i genuinely believe either team can win this one. l'guile have the monkey off their backs & will rightly start as favourites. add to this the 'dalls 2years of hurt & i think it is too close to call pre match.as for saying c'dall have beat nobody of note in the c'ship this last few years all i can say is that they beat all the teams put in front of them up to the final. if you wanted to be pedantic , you could also level that accusation at both teams this year,with l'guile beating 2 div 2 teams & c'dall beating 1 div 2 team. i am however not pedantic & i'll bet just like every other c'dall & l'guile supporter am delighted to be back in the final again with every chance of winning.dont give a damn if its easy on the eye or for that matter good for the neutral.results are all that count & as last year proved even if it ends up 1pt to nil the players & supporters of the winning team wouldnt be too bothered.in ten years time people wont ask how you won a c'ship, they'll ask when you won one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2011, 06:49:49 PM
Couldn't agree more auld stock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 20, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
Cushendall to win by 2 points in a high scoring game

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2011, 09:19:42 PM
Some great opinions lads it's building up nicely. But I fear MR2 might have hit the nail on the head here - the ref will decide it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2011, 09:34:41 PM
I would trust Owen Elliott to do a good fair job in the final. I'm happy with his appointment, I think he is a good honest referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2011, 09:19:42 PM
Some great opinions lads it's building up nicely. But I fear MR2 might have hit the nail on the head here - the ref will decide it!

Decide it because he may award a (rightful ) free late on that will win it. Referees can't play the game. Owen will certainly let the lads hurl on the edge. What final will I go to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winghalfback on September 20, 2011, 10:09:28 PM
Just a question lads any word on the lady from Ballycastle that went missing I have not heard anything about her in a while it was such a sad story that seems to have been forgotten about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2011, 10:20:05 PM
Haven't heard any more about it, terrible tragedy and we can only speculate privately what's happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
IMO cant see LG being beat in this one, just think Cushendall are lacking the firepower up front to really hurt them.

Couple that to the fact that they really dont seem to care if they win or lose and that to me sets alarm bells off. Dont think it will be pretty, think it could be quite rough but see LG winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 21, 2011, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
IMO cant see LG being beat in this one, just think Cushendall are lacking the firepower up front to really hurt them.

Couple that to the fact that they really dont seem to care if they win or lose and that to me sets alarm bells off. Dont think it will be pretty, think it could be quite rough but see LG winning.

You're basing this on what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Well one example might be the fact that three of your team were on the tiles the night before the semi final, but maybe that just shows their will to win in another way that I cant see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 21, 2011, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Well one example might be the fact that three of your team were on the tiles the night before the semi final, but maybe that just shows their will to win in another way that I cant see.

????

Our boys could have lay down when 11 points down in the second half, but fought back to pull of a great comeback. Hardly the type of actions from a team who don't care. What other teams would have fought so hard in that situation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Well one example might be the fact that three of your team were on the tiles the night before the semi final, but maybe that just shows their will to win in another way that I cant see.

It would be Intresting if you could name the 3 players. I know several of the players havent went out since the championship started
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Oisinog,

I could name them yes, but I wont be naming the players on here, but you can take it from me that I am not speaking anything other than 100% fact on this. Not that it matters now since they won their semi final just found it interesting behaviour to be engaged in so close to a big match. Therefore told me a little about their attitude to the game and the result for that matter, as Colonel says good fight back and hard work, but maybe wouldnt have been in that position to begin with if hadnt of engaged in the activities they did!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Oisinog,

I could name them yes, but I wont be naming the players on here, but you can take it from me that I am not speaking anything other than 100% fact on this. Not that it matters now since they won their semi final just found it interesting behaviour to be engaged in so close to a big match. Therefore told me a little about their attitude to the game and the result for that matter, as Colonel says good fight back and hard work, but maybe wouldnt have been in that position to begin with if hadnt of engaged in the activities they did!

Nag

Just because a player was out does not mean they were Drinking. I know there would be a lot of unhappy players in Cushendall if some of their players were out drinking.

I couldn't see Skinner starting players if they were out drinking. Cushendalls 3rd team won the McCaughan cup the night before so some of the 3rd team would have been out drinking.

I'm sure someone from Cushendall could confirm if this is true or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
Oisinog,

I could name them yes, but I wont be naming the players on here, but you can take it from me that I am not speaking anything other than 100% fact on this. Not that it matters now since they won their semi final just found it interesting behaviour to be engaged in so close to a big match. Therefore told me a little about their attitude to the game and the result for that matter, as Colonel says good fight back and hard work, but maybe wouldnt have been in that position to begin with if hadnt of engaged in the activities they did!

Nag

Just because a player was out does not mean they were Drinking. I know there would be a lot of unhappy players in Cushendall if some of their players were out drinking.

I couldn't see Skinner starting players if they were out. Cushendalls 3rd team won the McCaughan cup the night before so some of the 3rd team would have been out drinking.

I'm sure someone from Cushendall could confirm if this is true or not

Yes they were drinking

No they were not 3rds teamers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 12:01:42 PM
Thats very intresting about the Cushendall players.

I would be intresting what someone from Cushendall has to say about this as this is out of Character for Cushendalls managment to let their players away with this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 12:12:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2011, 11:57:33 AM
It was a Saturday night, ffs, lighten up.

Excellent + 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2011, 12:49:56 PM
What a load of rubbish, Cushendall players were not out the night before the St. Galls game. Complete tripe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2011, 12:49:56 PM
What a load of rubbish, Cushendall players were not out the night before the St. Galls game. Complete tripe

Unsurprising reaction from our Cushendall posters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Minder you know yourself how serious most of the cushendall players take their Hurling. There is only one Player that would do it and I though Gazza stamped it out of him last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2011, 12:49:56 PM
What a load of rubbish, Cushendall players were not out the night before the St. Galls game. Complete tripe

Truth
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2011, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Minder you know yourself how serious most of the cushendall players take their Hurling. There is only one Player that would do it and I though Gazza stamped it out of him last year

I have never thought NAG1 is a WUM or has an agenda so I don't see why he would make it up. Just because people don't want it to be true doesent make it a pile of shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 21, 2011, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Minder you know yourself how serious most of the cushendall players take their Hurling. There is only one Player that would do it and I though Gazza stamped it out of him last year

I have never thought NAG1 is a WUM or has an agenda so I don't see why he would make it up. Just because people don't want it to be true doesent make it a pile of shite.

I more suprised that the cushendall managment let these players away with it. I was talking to 3 members of the cushendall team over the weekend and to me it appeared there was no ill feeling among the team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 01:34:17 PM
Boys have no agenda nor do I want to cause any problems for the Cushendall men before the weekend, I made a statement about the game and was asked to back it up gave an answer, because the answer wasnt popular isnt my fault. But it is true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2011, 01:43:12 PM
I wouldn't take NAG as a sh*tstirrer. There "could" be an element of truth in what he's saying you know. We have our own who'd like to think it doesn't matter to go on the lash when it suits them regardless of whether its championship time or not so I don't think anyone should get too precious. Fact is regardless of the club...anyone who goes out drinking heavily whilst he is preparing for championship is a complete fraud and will be found out (exceptions do apply) on the day. So disrespectful to those he's been training with all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
Being honest NAG I just find it hard to believe that 3 boys could be stupid enough to ruin the chances of winning a championship for the other 22 players on the panel.

I do believe what you are saying though it hasnt made it 2 miles around the coast to glenarife yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
All water under the bridge any how.  They're in the final on Sunday and you can bet they wont be out drinking this Saturday night.  Hopefully they'll not be out on Sunday night either to be honest  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Win or Loose the Lurig will be filled to bursting on Sunday night. Half our senior team ventured over last year for a few drinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
Win or Loose the Lurig will be filled to bursting on Sunday night. Half our senior team ventured over last year for a few drinks
Aye cos Cushendall got beat!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 21, 2011, 02:11:11 PM
Damm Straight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 21, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 21, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2011, 12:49:56 PM
What a load of rubbish, Cushendall players were not out the night before the St. Galls game. Complete tripe

Unsurprising reaction from our Cushendall posters.

and also an unsurprising reaction from you!!!!!!!

NAG, in response o your original statement, does 3 players make a team / panel, i dont know if players from cushendall where out or not nor do i care but does the action of 3 players determine what the feeling is for the whole team

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
Never said it did mega man, but it made me draw some conclusions of my own from that, thats all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
Never said it did mega man, but it made me draw some conclusions of my own from that, thats all.

So on that basis we should be backing Loughgiel due to the lack of commitment shown by the Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
Backing, as in showing support for or financial backing MR2  ;)

Glad of your support anyway ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 03:54:25 PM
Back who ever you like MR2

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Christ some insider knowledge is great if it were true ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 04:15:48 PM
My information was not to be used to get you free entry with your ill gotten gains,  to either of the finals!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2011, 04:15:48 PM
My information was not to be used to get you free entry with your ill gotten gains,  to either of the finals!  ;)

Halt time it is then ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Christ some insider knowledge is great if it were true ;)

Ok MR2, here's some insider knowledge for you.  We'll be playing with 4 newcomers who didn't start in last years final (3 didn't play at all).  I believe however that we're a stronger team because of these changes.  Cushendall are obviously weaker up front without NMM and having to push big Carson up front in his stead have weakened their defence.  Although OS is now playing at full back I thought he looked vulnerable under the high ball against your boys.  LG will, as always build from the back and with a strong half back line in MS, JC and TMC I feel the Dall will struggle to get scores as they did last year.  Therefore get your house on LG at -3.  Only my opinion of course  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Christ some insider knowledge is great if it were true ;)

Ok MR2, here's some insider knowledge for you.  We'll be playing with 4 newcomers who didn't start in last years final (3 didn't play at all).  I believe however that we're a stronger team because of these changes.  Cushendall are obviously weaker up front without NMM and having to push big Carson up front in his stead have weakened their defence.  Although OS is now playing at full back I thought he looked vulnerable under the high ball against your boys.  LG will, as always build from the back and with a strong half back line in MS, JC and TMC I feel the Dall will struggle to get scores as they did last year.  Therefore get your house on LG at -3.  Only my opinion of course  ;D

You also failed to score a lot, low scoring final but ya managed one more than the opposition  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 21, 2011, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Christ some insider knowledge is great if it were true ;)

Ok MR2, here's some insider knowledge for you.  We'll be playing with 4 newcomers who didn't start in last years final (3 didn't play at all).  I believe however that we're a stronger team because of these changes.  Cushendall are obviously weaker up front without NMM and having to push big Carson up front in his stead have weakened their defence.  Although OS is now playing at full back I thought he looked vulnerable under the high ball against your boys.  LG will, as always build from the back and with a strong half back line in MS, JC and TMC I feel the Dall will struggle to get scores as they did last year.  Therefore get your house on LG at -3.  Only my opinion of course  ;D

You also failed to score a lot, low scoring final but ya managed one more than the opposition  ;)

Yes, but as said I think we're a stronger team up front this year than last.  I am wearing my rosey red tinted glasses though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 21, 2011, 07:14:41 PM
Hi lads, anyone information on the county hurling manager appointment yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 21, 2011, 07:49:15 PM
Whoever said there were 3 players out the night before the St galls game is an idiot. It is strange i have never heard this until i read it here. There were about 7 of our team up watching the St Galls/Dunloy game and believe me we knew that night exactly how tough it was going to be. the usual culprits for drinking were up watching it and were not drinking coming up to that game. we knew exactly what was ahead of us.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2011, 08:02:37 PM
Quote from: ruairi on September 21, 2011, 07:49:15 PM
Whoever said there were 3 players out the night before the St galls game is an idiot. It is strange i have never heard this until i read it here. There were about 7 of our team up watching the St Galls/Dunloy game and believe me we knew that night exactly how tough it was going to be. the usual culprits for drinking were up watching it and were not drinking coming up to that game. we knew exactly what was ahead of us.

I was drinking, and so was my mates :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 21, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
Nag your'e a good un alright!!!  i would say that neil was on the tiles night b4 st galls game as he was sickened to know that the best he was looking at was 6weeks on the sideline.also curious for you to say that this could explain why the 'dall found themselves 11points down in the first place. think you are really doing st galls a disservice to insinuate that they were only 11pts ahead cos 3 'dall men on the beer the night b4!!! how many dunloy men did that put on the beer the night b4 both games with st galls??? anyhow if it sets the right tone then i'll tell you the whole 'dall panel are going on the piss this sat b4 the final as they all have a bad attitude & think they'll hammer the shammrocks. keep telling yourself that & we'll all be happy in the glens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: ruairi on September 21, 2011, 07:49:15 PM
Whoever said there were 3 players out the night before the St galls game is an idiot. It is strange i have never heard this until i read it here. There were about 7 of our team up watching the St Galls/Dunloy game and believe me we knew that night exactly how tough it was going to be. the usual culprits for drinking were up watching it and were not drinking coming up to that game. we knew exactly what was ahead of us.

Quote from: auld stock on September 21, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
Nag your'e a good un alright!!!  i would say that neil was on the tiles night b4 st galls game as he was sickened to know that the best he was looking at was 6weeks on the sideline.also curious for you to say that this could explain why the 'dall found themselves 11points down in the first place. think you are really doing st galls a disservice to insinuate that they were only 11pts ahead cos 3 'dall men on the beer the night b4!!! how many dunloy men did that put on the beer the night b4 both games with st galls??? anyhow if it sets the right tone then i'll tell you the whole 'dall panel are going on the piss this sat b4 the final as they all have a bad attitude & think they'll hammer the shammrocks. keep telling yourself that & we'll all be happy in the glens.

Lads lads, you's are taking this very badly and very seriously. I am not wrong on this believe me and I wasnt saying it to wind you boys up or to say anything bad against your panel. My point was that I thought Cushendalls attitude to the game (semi final) wasnt right I was asked why and I gave my resaon. Do I think it will affect the result of Sundays match maybe maybe not, but to me it sends a bad signal.

Dont want to keep this going and going on, we should be talking about the match, but the fact it is 100% fact whether you choose to believe or not is really up to yourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
NAG I sent you a PM to confirm the names. I wouldn't be believing this because I know who the culprits would have been rumoured to have been in the past and between myself and other Cushendall posters I know on here we could eliminate those players. I don't believe it to be honest, but your claims have no substance because you don't back it up with any evidence.

How do you expect these claims to be taken among our camp. You didn't hear us giving off about your boys when they were told to stay off the beer, and went out at the Lammas Fair, got chased from training, apparently made to apologise and then not played against St Galls. If our boys were drinking, and I use that IF losely, we were still able to beat the Galls (not being disrespectful). Do you tar all your players brush with the same attitude of this individual on your team?

EDIT- PM sent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 09:51:06 AM
Colonel,

Im going to end this discussion now. I dont want it to distract from your preparations for the weekend.

I stated at the very start that I was not going to name names on this as I dont feel that is the correct thing to do, if you or any of the Cushendall posters dont want to believe it then that is fine by me. But the simple fact is that it is true end of.

Did I ever say I tarred your whole panel with the same brush, every club has them. (Nor was I giving off) My point was that because of the three boys attitude I didnt think the attitude in general would have been correct. I think thats a fair enough assumption to make since it is a personal view and opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 09:58:04 AM
Tar brush = Drinking before a game

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 10:06:18 AM
You may not choose to reply NAG but you would be an idiot to think this wouldn't cause some sort of discussion/fuss. In the immediate aftermath of your St Galls replay we could have stuck the needle in about attitude of one of your players but I have to much respect to many of the others to know think that would not be symptomatic of the rest of the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 10:10:39 AM
I wasnt sticking the needle in anywhere, question was asked and question was answered as far as I was concerned.

As I have stated before there isnt a club in the land that hasnt got this type of issue from time to time (that does not reflect on the rest of any other panel as every club has also got the die hard committed players in there also), as I also said you won the game therefore it was done and dusted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
NAG I sent you a PM to confirm the names. I wouldn't be believing this because I know who the culprits would have been rumoured to have been in the past and between myself and other Cushendall posters I know on here we could eliminate those players. I don't believe it to be honest, but your claims have no substance because you don't back it up with any evidence.

How do you expect these claims to be taken among our camp. You didn't hear us giving off about your boys when they were told to stay off the beer, and went out at the Lammas Fair, got chased from training, apparently made to apologise and then not played against St Galls. If our boys were drinking, and I use that IF losely, we were still able to beat the Galls (not being disrespectful). Do you
tar all your players brush with the same attitude of this individual on your team?

EDIT- PM sent

What sort of evidence would you want Colonel? I don't see it as big a deal as some, obviously management and other players wouldn't be amused but it happens all over the country from time to time and there isn't much you can do about fellas sneaking out for a drink.

Most teams have fellas that would hardly touch a drink and others that can't say no to a session.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 22, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
NAG I sent you a PM to confirm the names. I wouldn't be believing this because I know who the culprits would have been rumoured to have been in the past and between myself and other Cushendall posters I know on here we could eliminate those players. I don't believe it to be honest, but your claims have no substance because you don't back it up with any evidence.

How do you expect these claims to be taken among our camp. You didn't hear us giving off about your boys when they were told to stay off the beer, and went out at the Lammas Fair, got chased from training, apparently made to apologise and then not played against St Galls. If our boys were drinking, and I use that IF losely, we were still able to beat the Galls (not being disrespectful). Do you
tar all your players brush with the same attitude of this individual on your team?

EDIT- PM sent

What sort of evidence would you want Colonel? I don't see it as big a deal as some, obviously management and other players wouldn't be amused but it happens all over the country from time to time and there isn't much you can do about fellas sneaking out for a drink.

Most teams have fellas that would hardly touch a drink and others that can't say no to a session.

Well if there was 3 players accused I'm sure we would all like to know who it was. we've already had people this year accused of something they didn't do...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2011, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 22, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 09:44:17 AM
NAG I sent you a PM to confirm the names. I wouldn't be believing this because I know who the culprits would have been rumoured to have been in the past and between myself and other Cushendall posters I know on here we could eliminate those players. I don't believe it to be honest, but your claims have no substance because you don't back it up with any evidence.

How do you expect these claims to be taken among our camp. You didn't hear us giving off about your boys when they were told to stay off the beer, and went out at the Lammas Fair, got chased from training, apparently made to apologise and then not played against St Galls. If our boys we
re drinking, and I use that IF losely, we were still able to beat the Galls (not being disrespectful). Do you
tar all your players brush with the same attitude of this individual on your team?

EDIT- PM sent

What sort of evidence would you want Colonel? I don't see it as big a deal as some, obviously management and other players wouldn't be amused but it happens all over the country from time to
time and there isn't much you can do about fellas sneaking out for a drink.

Most teams have fellas that would hardly touch a drink and others that can't say no to a session.

Well if there was 3 players accused I'm sure we would all like to know who it was. we've already had people this year accused of something they didn't do...........

Who had been accused of something they didn't do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
remember the Ulster League suspension craic?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 10:06:18 AM
You may not choose to reply NAG but you would be an idiot to think this wouldn't cause some sort of discussion/fuss. In the immediate aftermath of your St Galls replay we could have stuck the needle in about attitude of one of your players but I have to much respect to many of the others to know think that would not be symptomatic of the rest of the squad.

:o  ??? is NAG a Dunloy man?   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 11:53:27 AM
Noticed that myself Skull but let it slide as didnt want to then get accused by the Dunloy posters of getting their players accused of something they did or didnt do  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 12:01:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 11:53:27 AM
Noticed that myself Skull but let it slide as didnt want to then get accused by the Dunloy posters of getting their players accused of something they did or didnt do  ;)

I may be incorrect then, always had the whiff of a dunloy man through posts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 12:03:56 PM
So what is the feeling Colonel, you think you can improve on last years final? NmcM is a massive loss to you's not only in terms of his own contribution but to the structure of your team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
Whilst Neil is a big miss with his play and leadership, its certainly not beyond us. This is the first time we will probably go into a final against Loughgiel as underdogs and there will be more expectancy in Loughgiel that they will win due to last years victory and Neil's injury.

I would certainly like to think we will improve on last years performance. We were very poor and only were 1 point away so all is not lost.  We have now a couple of subs that are fighting for a place and can also come in to change the game (as they did v St Galls).

I'd take the 1 point win now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 22, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
so NAG you still dont see that you did tar everyone on the Cushendall team with same brush.  can you read you original statment again.  ::)  ::)
 
Anyway, moving on

i think both teams will want to improve from last year, both IMO where poor, loughgiel scored 1-9 and only 4 or 5 points in the second half with only one of those from play. which is pretty poor IMO.

Cushendall will obviously want to improve as they missed a number of easy chances paticularly towards the end and still couldnt outscore a poor loughgiel team

it will be interesting as neither has great form going into the game.  i will go with Cushendall by 3 as i think the win against St Galls will give them a big lift.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2011, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 22, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
so NAG you still dont see that you did tar everyone on the Cushendall team with same brush.  can you read you original statment again.  ::)  ::)
 
Anyway, moving on

i think both teams will want to improve from last year, both IMO where poor, loughgiel scored 1-9 and only 4 or 5 points in the second half with only one of those from play. which is pretty poor IMO.

Cushendall will obviously want to improve as they missed a number of easy chances paticularly towards the end and still couldnt outscore a poor loughgiel team

it will be interesting as neither has great form going into the game.  i will go with Cushendall by 3 as i think the win against St Galls will give them a big lift.

Megaman not going to get back into it again, have explained it above if you care to read back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 22, 2011, 10:09:30 PM
Loughguile by 5 for me.  Seen that they will announce tomorrow the county manager.  Anyone heard anything concrete?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2011, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: 4father on September 22, 2011, 10:09:30 PM
Loughguile by 5 for me.  Seen that they will announce tomorrow the county manager.  Anyone heard anything concrete?

Creagh are still sponsoring them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 23, 2011, 09:41:09 AM
Very good minder! I like it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2011, 10:54:41 AM
Creagh are still sponsoring them.
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This. +1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 11:03:53 AM
Watched Cushendall train for the final time last night, looking sharp. Expect big games from Aaron Graffin, Karl Mc Keegan, Shane Mc Naughton and Sean Delargy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:20:17 AM
Loughgiel to win well enough - think they have way more - with or without winker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:22:11 AM
Honestly JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 11:36:50 AM
For sure MR2, I just can't see past us. We have a far better recent record than Loughgiel. We know how to win finals, the question is did Loughgiel win last year's final or did we throw it away? Are Loughgiel capable of beating us if we play well? I might be wrong but I don't think so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:39:26 AM
cant wait to find out ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 11:46:03 AM
Having seen the forecast for Sunday could be a complete lottery
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 23, 2011, 11:47:17 AM
all busy at work then lads, aye??? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
I would suggest that the outcome of the  most recent of finals would lead anyone who doesn't have an in bred hatred of all things Loughgiel to the outcome that they know fine well how to win finals. And as you say JJ it was you lot who choked last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 12:37:58 PM
SIE bit of a contradiction in terms there if Im not mistaken  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 12:42:51 PM
Could you explain NaG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
I would suggest that the outcome of the  most recent of finals would lead anyone who doesn't have an in bred hatred of all things Loughgiel to the outcome that they know fine well how to win finals. And as you say JJ it was you lot who choked last year.

Certainly

You stated that after so many defeats LG now know how to win finals (or should that be final) but then went on to admit that you won the game by the fact that Cushendall choked with the finish line in sight. To me that is a contradiction in terms.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 23, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
Have to agree with that NAG

also SIE, you should maybe look up the definition of choked.

yous won last year due to a combination of things, Cushendall playing Shite and RM

as i stated before 1 point from play in the 2nd half isnt really that good is it?

but dont get me wrong it could all be different this year, either yourselfs or cushendall could actually play well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 12:58:25 PM
Um, no I didn't say that at all. I said that after the most recent of finals, last year, they know how to win. And correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't the Dall going for their own hat-trick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 01:01:53 PM
megaman, the dall only scored 11, hardly earth shattering. "Cushendall played shite" "Dunloy played shite", nothing to do with loughgiel I suppose? Change the record! I think it'll be tight enough in the end, and if the weather is as bad as predicted could be similar to last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
Poking a bit of fun SIE

Have stated before that I think you will have too much for them esp with them missing NmcM.
Both teams showing no form coming into it really so I suppose its all on the day and all to play for. Both teams are set up to be low scoring and low conceding, so if one of them could break away they would be hard to catch.

Hopefully OE will do a better job this time around and give both teams a fair crack at it and he doesnt turn it into a battle of the free takers. Hopefully it wont be as bad as last year or will be looking refunds on the way out. (Not that that matters to the winners but would be nice to watch a good game)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 01:31:58 PM
The general consensus around Loughgiel is that we're happy enough with OE's appointment. Hope he has a good game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 01:34:12 PM
Not as happy as you were with RM last year  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 01:41:58 PM
SIE, I and many others believe that Loughgiel were handed last years county championship by a combination of our poor display and RM. I still don't think Loughgiel have it in them to beat Cushendall if, and I suppose its a big if, we perform. If we play well and get beat then I'll give Loughgiel credit. At the moment the current Loughgiel team is a one hit wonder. Without Ballycran and Dungiven in last year's Ulster Championship they got a handy Ulster championship and then got beat easy in the All Ireland. Again for my money they are yet to produce the goods when someone really applies the pressure. If they win on Sunday I'll give them credit but at the moment I think they are still the same team that lost 6 in a row and they got their one championship by de fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 01:47:50 PM
FIGHT...FIGHT....FIGHT.. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Well, we were due one saying as we lost at least two of those 6 finals at the behest of the refs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 23, 2011, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 01:31:58 PM
The general consensus around Loughgiel is that we're happy enough with OE's appointment. Hope he has a good game.

if he has as good a game as he had 2 years ago, i dont think anyone will complain.
i see hes also doing the senior camogie final, seems to be the ref in favour at the minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 02:17:14 PM
SIE would you care to name the 2 finals that a referee cost Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 02:17:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Well, we were due one saying as we lost at least two of those 6 finals at the behest of the refs.

Which two?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 02:23:07 PM
On another point, Cushendall are happy with OE as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 02:30:42 PM
Ah now lads, come on! I'm not going down that path. I could but it's history. Time to concentrate on Sunday methinks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
You started going down that path SIE, you can't just stop in the middle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
Shamrocks by 3, sending off's due to the wild pulling Owen will let go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
I wouldn't think OE will let wild pulling go. He is a good referee and he'll let the boys hurl hard but they'll need to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
Be like every other final be a settling in period in the first ten mins where more or less anything will go, after that he will start to issue the cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 23, 2011, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 21, 2011, 07:14:41 PM
Hi lads, anyone information on the county hurling manager appointment yet?

Any word?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 23, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
I wouldn't think OE will let wild pulling go. He is a good referee and he'll let the boys hurl hard but they'll need to be fair.

DMK better be on his best behaviour then  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on September 23, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 23, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
I wouldn't think OE will let wild pulling go. He is a good referee and he'll let the boys hurl hard but they'll need to be fair.

DMK better be on his best behaviour then  ;)

Make sure you tell Skinner the same then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
You started going down that path SIE, you can't just stop in the middle
Ok JJ, I was merely showing you how every club has had grievances, or perceived grievances, against referees. In the end it's a pointless and futile exercise which achieves nothing. It's hard not to spout off sometimes though. So please, enough of this tripe about last year. It doesn't matter how it was won, nobody will care in a year or two.

 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 23, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 03:22:29 PM
I wouldn't think OE will let wild pulling go. He is a good referee and he'll let the boys hurl hard but they'll need to be fair.

DMK better be on his best behaviour then  ;)
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
I'd say Skinner is praying DMK doesn't get near him, Skinner can dish it out, he isn't too good when someone dishes it out to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2011, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
I'd say Skinner is praying DMK doesn't get near him, Skinner can dish it out, he isn't too good when someone dishes it out to him.
Hardly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
I'd say Skinner is praying DMK doesn't get near him, Skinner can dish it out, he isn't too good when someone dishes it out to him.
Well, he wasn't that good after he had his hand broke, fair dinkum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2011, 06:45:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2011, 06:40:29 PM
Jesus, yis are some shower of yappy bastids, the lot of ye.
It's getting close HS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2011, 06:40:29 PM
Jesus, yis are some shower of yappy bastids, the lot of ye.

nat big rogie then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 23, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
I'd say Skinner is praying DMK doesn't get near him, Skinner can dish it out, he isn't too good when someone dishes it out to him.

ffs get a grip
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:08:12 PM
DMK is a dirty player alright!! Cost ya's a first All Ireland final place when getting sent off against De La Salle. Left his mark on Karl Stewart after Karl played the ball, Quality!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2011, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:08:12 PM
DMK is a dirty player alright!! Cost ya's a first All Ireland final place when getting sent off against De La Salle. Left his mark on Karl Stewart after Karl played the ball, Quality!!
Thought we left all talk like this behind after the Ballycastle v Loughgiel match??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Sorry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2011, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Sorry
No need to apologise to me. But with your post it leaves yourself open to retatiliation about your  club & the player you named in your post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 23, 2011, 08:27:18 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2011, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:15:35 PM
Sorry
No need to apologise to me. But with your post it leaves yourself open to retatiliation about your  club & the player you named in your post.

Open to what?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
County match, player was sent off and rightly so. Here's the difference, totally out of character for him. Can't be said of the other lad. As you know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
County match, player was sent off and rightly so. Here's the difference, totally out of character for him. Can't be said of the other lad. As you know
I didn't state Karl was dirty, of course he isn't... My point was alot to do with you claiming DMcK costing C'dall cost a place in the AI Final. Karl got sent off v Cross & Limerick this year who both had big influences on them matches

We'll move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
So you agree?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2011, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2011, 10:06:10 PM
I don't know what Woody has to do with this whole row at all. Sure he hasn't played in years.
;D  haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 23, 2011, 10:42:39 PM
Always guaranteed a laugh reading this thread ;D

Anyway, I think Loughgiel will come through handy enough on Sunday. Is Watson playing or not? Hopefully is. The Shamrocks to win by 8+ points with or without Watson

Good to see the u16 final on before the big one. Have heard a lot about these two teams. I think most of Rossa`s team provided the players for their minor success as well. Hopefully they put on a spectacle 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 23, 2011, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 23, 2011, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on September 23, 2011, 10:42:39 PM
Always guaranteed a laugh reading this thread ;D

Anyway, I think Loughgiel will come through handy enough on Sunday. Is Watson playing or not? Hopefully is. The Shamrocks to win by 8+ points with or without Watson

Good to see the u16 final on before the big one. Have heard a lot about these two teams. I think most of Rossa`s team provided the players for their minor success as well. Hopefully they put on a spectacle
Was talking to a Loch gCaol man today. He called it 50:50 and says Winker is def playing.

Rossa u16s should win alright. Beat Cushendall by 10 at home, pulling up and rolling subs.
Went up there on a dirty night and threw away a 10 point lead to lose by two.
Two very good teams though.

Good news on Watson then. The u16 game could up a better prospect than the senior final lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 11:34:27 PM
Cant see it HS

Didnt narrow it down much there on the loch gCaol man  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 11:44:03 PM
That wouldnt make him an LG man surely  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2011, 11:48:11 PM
Wasnt how you met him I was laughing at was the thought of a LG man in a shirt with Dixons Contractor on it!

Do you know the betting for sundays game?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:53:38 PM
Looking forward to the game. Hope weather is good and match has a few twists
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2011, 12:00:25 AM
Weather to be brutal, what about a draw 5 points each  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2011, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2011, 11:53:38 PM
Looking forward to the game. Hope weather is good and match has a few twists
Playing the handicap?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 24, 2011, 07:33:27 AM
Cushendall are in to 6/4 on Paddy Power
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 24, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
Cushendall at 7/4 is the value.

McManus is a big loss for Cushendall, he was key to their style of play.  But Shane McNaughton usually causes Loughgiel plenty of trouble, paddy McNaughton at wing forward will pose serious questions in terms of mobility, personally I thought he was the one outstanding performance in last years final.

Loughgiel may be slight favourites, but I am underwhelmed by them, hardworking, organised and functional, but do they have that spark, Watson is capable but has been decidedly ordinary for the last 3 years with one notable exception against Cork.

If Cushendall can break loughgiels impressive half back lone, and I think pace may be the way to do so, then I think they will create goal chances, as long as they don't try to beat DD from 25m they could just sneak a good exciting game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 24, 2011, 08:18:23 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 24, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
Cushendall at 7/4 is the value.

McManus is a big loss for Cushendall, he was key to their style of play.  But Shane McNaughton usually causes Loughgiel plenty of trouble, paddy McNaughton at wing forward will pose serious questions in terms of mobility, personally I thought he was the one outstanding performance in last years final.

Loughgiel may be slight favourites, but I am underwhelmed by them, hardworking, organised and functional, but do they have that spark, Watson is capable but has been decidedly ordinary for the last 3 years with one notable exception against Cork.

If Cushendall can break loughgiels impressive half back lone, and I think pace may be the way to do so, then I think they will create goal chances, as long as they don't try to beat DD from 25m they could just sneak a good exciting game

Wishful thinking Max
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
Loughgiel -1 even money with PP.

If the weather is as bad as it's predicted then it may well be another low scoring game. Cushendall haven't racked up a big score so far this year. For Cushendall to win they'll need a big game from all of their players.

Any news coming from the camps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 05:04:30 PM
Plenty, but none for discussion here. :)

All good by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
Big day nearly upon us, Watson bk in 14. Hopefully turns in monster game.  IMO game will be won and lost in midfield,   Agree that SMN will have major say in outcome. didn't really get going in last years game. PMN also with pace could cause problems. If our backs can keep SMN quite id expect a win, but this +8 chat is BS.  Will be tight all the way, Id take a +1 right now ;D   Any truth in RK injury??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
I have a slight preference for Cushendall tomorrow, by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2011, 11:51:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 24, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
I have a slight preference for Cushendall tomorrow, by 2.
With Loughgiel's history it's hard to back them, even as favourites. I'd still err on the side of the Dall by a small margin too. The weather is to be cat so get into the stand!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 25, 2011, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
Once is an accident, twice is an accident, three times is a pattern. Moscow rules.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
Big day nearly upon us, Watson bk in 14. Hopefully turns in monster game.  IMO game will be won and lost in midfield,   Agree that SMN will have major say in outcome. didn't really get going in last years game. PMN also with pace could cause problems. If our backs can keep SMN quite id expect a win, but this +8 chat is BS.  Will be tight all the way, Id take a +1 right now ;D   Any truth in RK injury??

They have a better keeper in reserve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
To be fair, it's as if the Antrim hurling championship was invented last year, with you.
Erm, no. I don't think so. It's just like everyone else has forgot about it. You really should let your inner demons go about Loughgiel HS, it'll make you twisted.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 25, 2011, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
Once is an accident, twice is an accident, three times is a pattern. Moscow rules.
Like a three time loss?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
To be fair, it's as if the Antrim hurling championship was invented last year, with you.
I don't think so. It's just like everyone else has forgot about it. You really should let your inner demons go about Loughgiel HS, it'll make you twisted.  :P
What I'm saying is that last year did happen (Loch gCaol were the best team and deserved the championship) but so did the last 20 years.
Still fancy yis to win tomorrow and wouldn't begrudge yis another title.
Thanks for that vote of confidence. What I'm getting at is that Cushendall have lost two in a row. And to be honest, they haven't performed in either of them. No one is mentioning that at all. I just think it's going to be a factor tomorrow much more than Loughgiel's recent history, as opposed to their history. Which isn't up for debate, I'd like to think.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 12:45:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
To be fair, it's as if the Antrim hurling championship was invented last year, with you.
I don't think so. It's just like everyone else has forgot about it. You really should let your inner demons go about Loughgiel HS, it'll make you twisted.  :P
What I'm saying is that last year did happen (Loch gCaol were the best team and deserved the championship) but so did the last 20 years.
Still fancy yis to win tomorrow and wouldn't begrudge yis another title.
Thanks for that vote of confidence. What I'm getting at is that Cushendall have lost two in a row. And to be honest, they haven't performed in either of them. No one is mentioning that at all. I just think it's going to be a factor tomorrow much more than Loughgiel's recent history, as opposed to their history. Which isn't up for debate, I'd like to think.  ;)

What the fact they have lost more finals than any one or the fact they won their only one  by the fact that cushendall couldn't get the point when it came to it or that RM was generous! Recent history is that they are more losers than winners take a few more finals to reverse that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:57:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 12:45:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
It's as if last year never happened with some people.
To be fair, it's as if the Antrim hurling championship was invented last year, with you.
I don't think so. It's just like everyone else has forgot about it. You really should let your inner demons go about Loughgiel HS, it'll make you twisted.  :P
What I'm saying is that last year did happen (Loch gCaol were the best team and deserved the championship) but so did the last 20 years.
Still fancy yis to win tomorrow and wouldn't begrudge yis another title.
Thanks for that vote of confidence. What I'm getting at is that Cushendall have lost two in a row. And to be honest, they haven't performed in either of them. No one is mentioning that at all. I just think it's going to be a factor tomorrow much more than Loughgiel's recent history, as opposed to their history. Which isn't up for debate, I'd like to think.  ;)

What the fact they have lost more finals than any one or the fact they won their only one  by the fact that cushendall couldn't get the point when it came to it or that RM was generous! Recent history is that they are more losers than winners take a few more finals to reverse that!
We have not lost more finals than anyone.  Go check that one out NAG and get back to me on that one. You probably won't if you're from Ballycastle.

Jesus, it's like feckin playschool in this thread atm.


Mea culpa!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 12:51:17 AM
I don't think Loch gCaol can start spouting that Cois Abhann Dala have lost 2 finals in a row when Loch gCaol lost fcukin 6 in a row.

They hardly compare.
Haven't lost one in 3 years. Cushendall have lost the last two, that's my point. Saying as we're all being recent an' all.
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Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 01:04:21 AM
Nor have anyone who wasnt playing in the last two thats a shocking claim SIE

You can't lose one your not in!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 01:05:57 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 01:04:21 AM
Nor have anyone who wasnt playing in the last two thats a shocking claim SIE

You can't lose one your not in!
I do know that, but still no one is mentioning the fact that the Dall have lost the last two. Is that irrelevant? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 01:06:56 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:58:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 12:51:17 AM
I don't think Loch gCaol can start spouting that Cois Abhann Dala have lost 2 finals in a row when Loch gCaol lost fcukin 6 in a row.

They hardly compare.
Haven't lost one in 3 years.
Nor have Rossa.

Houl on, it's about 15 years since we last lost one.
if you're going to quote, quote the whole post. The point being that the dall have been beat in the last two. Still no one is addressing that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 01:11:12 AM
Ah jaysus boys, it's getting late. Time for bed. We won the senior camogie yesterday evening as well. It's going to be a mad night!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 01:12:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 25, 2011, 01:10:04 AM
Ok. How many of the last 8 have Loch gCaol lost?

Should we address that?
But that's ridiculous HS. We might as well address the last 80 years. Do you want to go there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 01:17:31 AM
Thanks HS. I hope it's a great game and no one gets hurt or sent off, and may the best team win. Good luck!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 25, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
Any of the cushendall or Loughgiel posters willing to share the team news at this stage.

The weather looks okay so far, if it does get bad i'd fancy it to suit loughgiel's more as the more physically powerful team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 25, 2011, 10:29:59 AM
Max I was hoping for a bad day, I'd have thought it would suit us better, we play more direct than Loughgiel, they use a lot of short hand passing and 20 or 30 yard passes with the hurl. Loughgiel do have a few big physical men but they have a few light fellas who wouldn't like a bad day. Karl Mc Keegan v Barney Mc Auley, Shane Mc Naughton v Neilly Mc Garry and Aaron Graffin v Liam Watson are the 3 key contests in the game. Good luck both teams and may the best team win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:38:06 AM
Weather fine so far up in the big smoke. Teams should be nervous by now. The under 16 game should set the tone for the seniors. Graffin was poor against us, was marking a lad whos still minor next year! Can't see him having two bad games in a row. Loughgiel halftime fulltime 11/8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 25, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
I know what your saying but I just think your best chance is the pace advantage Shane and paddy give in the forwards, bad weather invariably slows the play and strength comes into more.

I do agree you need to keep Barney quiet in midfield but has mckeegan the legs nowadays for his type of game and will Graffin follow Watson to the edge of the square
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 11:48:26 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 25, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
I know what your saying but I just think your best chance is the pace advantage Shane and paddy give in the forwards, bad weather invariably slows the play and strength comes into more.

I do agree you need to keep Barney quiet in midfield but has mckeegan the legs nowadays for his type of game and will Graffin follow Watson to the edge of the square

Mckeegan was great against us in fairness. Though this was in the second half with the breeze. Looking forward to the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 12:17:46 PM
What time is the U16 match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 25, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Rossa and Cushendall. Shane to get the first goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2011, 04:07:13 PM
7-7 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 25, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
Predicting a Loughgiel win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2011, 04:58:13 PM
EARNED ONE!!!
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Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Youse did
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Post by: THE DADGA on September 25, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
any score there lads ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
Loughgiel 1-14 Cdall 0-14 FT

Shams hit 1-4 without reply to win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 25, 2011, 05:35:56 PM
Cushendall approaching Loughguiles record in finals. As i thought, they don't have the forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Real good game. Best final in a long time. Penalty at the end turned the game. Best player on view, by a long way, was Shane McNaughton.

Cushendall hit a purple patch mid second half but then the penalty gave Loughgiel the momentum. Probably had a better range of scorers. Graffin had a great game on Watson too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 05:42:01 PM
Real good game. Best final in a long time. Penalty at the end turned the game. Best player on view, by a long way, was Shane McNaughton.

Cushendall hit a purple patch mid second half but then the penalty gave Loughgiel the momentum. Probably had a better range of scorers. Graffin had a great game on Watson too.

Problem for Cushendall was there was nobody to give him a hand, bar Conor Carson. Fair play to Loughgiel, didn't see them coming back from 0-14 to 0-10 down. Cushendall had a few players that went missing in the last 10-12 minutes. Loughgiel defence fairly stiffened in the last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 05:50:18 PM
Martin Scullion pulled off some catching in the last ten. It was a good comeback by Loughgiel. Now the monkey is off their back I think they will be there or thereabouts for a long time especially as their team is a good bit younger than Cushendall's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 06:08:58 PM
Best team up to the penalty was Cushendall. Loughgiel were chasing the game and the penalty changed the momentum of the match (as they usually do) as minder said they didn't look like winning at this point.

The penalty, well depends where you are from, the lad won the ball and for me went to ground very early (unaided in my view) then the Cushendall lads fell on him, eventually Owen give a penalty after looking to see if he was in the area. I'd have given a 21 yard hop ball as i didn't see a clear penalty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 06:13:22 PM
Well lads. All's well that ends well, eh?

The penalty was given because the keeper pulled down the forward. I thought Cushendall were lucky to still have 15 on the field after EmcK dirty off the ball slap on Jimmy C. It was the only dirty slap in the game tho. Fair play to both teams on that aspect of the game.

Roll on next year and the hat-trick!!! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 06:13:22 PM
Well lads. All's well that ends well, eh?

The penalty was given because the keeper pulled down the forward. I thought Cushendall were lucky to still have 15 on the field after EmcK dirty off the ball slap on Jimmy C. It was the only dirty slap in the game tho. Fair play to both teams on that aspect of the game.

Roll on next and the hat-trick!!! :)

Friend of mine was on that side when penalty was given, totally neutral so didn't give a shite (though he took them minus 1)  said it wasn't a penalty in his opinion. But SIE you have to admit until that was given you's were beat outta the gate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
It's all ifs and buts MR2. You have to play to the final whistle. We've learned that lesson the hard way over the last decade. I think our persistence and doggedness should be commended.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 06:43:14 PM
Loughgiel just found their scores that bit easier to come by and it told in the end. Wasn't sure about the penalty but hadn't a good enough view on it.

Jamie Campbell went down - I can only assume that is what incident you mean SIE -  but I, and no one anywhere near me, saw anything untoward so not sure about what you're mentioning.

Very clean game of hurling and it was a high standard too which was good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Better team beat on the day which doesn't matter a jot to the shams, pen seemed harsh but hadn't a good view either! Carson had the chance to put the dall four up 20 yards out and missed de ja vu of pmcg last year. In fairness Shane was outstanding and cdall were unlucky just ran out of steam at the wrong time.
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Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 06:48:38 PM
Thats not what MR2 said though. Yous were dead and buried before Owen Elliot gave you a helping hand.  Elliot wasnt looking very sure and it looked like he just gave them the benefit of the doubt.  I dont think it was a penalty. Up til that point, the loughguile men were all looking at each other to see who was going towin it for them.

Johnny Campbell did a good job when he lined Shane who was flying all day. That probably changed the game. Couldnt belueve LG left their no 4 on him for so long.

Congratulations anyway but i think yous were handed it by Elliot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Better team beat on the day which doesn't matter a jot to the shams, pen seemed harsh but hadn't a good view either! Carson had the chance to put the dall four up 20 yards out and missed de ja vu of pmcg last year. In fairness Shane was outstanding and cdall were unlucky just ran out of steam at the wrong time.

Don't know if a team can claim to be the best team when they don't score for the last 15 mins. I had a perfect view and it looked like a pen to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
Just thought from what I seen (It's hard for us to call considering the angles) it wasn't a penalty, the referee seen it his way and give it, shite penalty also and scraped in. As i said Graffin could'd have had a bad game again. Was immense on Watson who  if looking at the scoring stats he was top scorer for Loughgiel

How DIM DIM stayed/started for Loughgiel is beyond me, Dung Dung would be better suited
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:01:17 PM
Minder, there's no point in arguing with people of this mindset. It wouldn't matter if we'd won by ten they still wouldn't give us any credit.

Anyhow, time for the Pound and the club!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
SIE, congratulations were given. Congratulations, it was good to see the delight etc in the faces of the players, big PJ and all. Congratulations once again. Just didnt think it was a penalty thats all.

Jesus you've well balanced chips on both shoulders.

By the way, congratulations
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:01:17 PM
Minder, there's no point in arguing with people of this mindset. It wouldn't matter if we'd won by ten they still wouldn't give us any credit.

Anyhow, time for the Pound and the club!

Listen I didn't say anything, Ya's won and happy days, predicted the win (and i correct scored it) but didn't see it coming on till the 'penalty' as you or the Loughgiel fans around me thought also. No harm in that. Some teams win when they shouldn't!! happens quite a lot ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2011, 07:18:12 PM
Maybe let smokie ref next year, keep everyone happy!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:01:17 PM
Minder, there's no point in arguing with people of this mindset. It wouldn't matter if we'd won by ten they still wouldn't give us any credit.

Anyhow, time for the Pound and the club!

Listen I didn't say anything, Ya's won and happy days, predicted the win (and i correct scored it) but didn't see it coming on till the 'penalty' as you or the Loughgiel fans around me thought also. No harm in that.
Some teams win when they shouldn't!! happens quite a lot ;)

Regarding the penalty, it wasn't as if it was in the last minute. Dall had plenty of time to win the match, it totally changed the momentum in the match though. As someone said Carson missed a sitter that woul have put Dall 5 up I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:25:45 PM
Big ears will be well filled the night!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
To be fair to Loughgiel I thought that in the last 10/15 the wee #18 coming on was a big factor in them coming back too as he caused a lot of problems. Loughgiel had two great goal chances in the last 15- one being messed up by a horlicks of a handpass when there were 2 people through on goal and one by a feeble shot by the #18. They were creating these kind of openings though.

For the penalty I was pretty sure the goalie cleaned someone however I thought the ref let play go on and wasn't sure the follow up was a penalty.

I wouldn't say the best team lost at all or the team that deserved to lose wonto be honest. Two evenly matched teams played it out and one team got the breaks over the other.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
To be fair to Loughgiel I thought that in the last 10/15 the wee #18 coming on was a big factor in them coming back too as he caused a lot of problems. Loughgiel had two great goal chances in the last 15- one being messed up by a horlicks of a handpass when there were 2 people through on goal and one by a feeble shot by the #18. They were creating these kind of openings though.

For the penalty I was pretty sure the goalie cleaned someone however I thought the ref let play go on and wasn't sure the follow up was a penalty.

I wouldn't say the best team lost at all or the team that deserved to lose wonto be honest. Two evenly matched teams played it out and one team got the breaks over the other.
That was Shay Casey. A great wee player. He should've started after his performance against Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
To be fair to Loughgiel I thought that in the last 10/15 the wee #18 coming on was a big factor in them coming back too as he caused a lot of problems. Loughgiel had two great goal chances in the last 15- one being messed up by a horlicks of a handpass when there were 2 people through on goal and one by a feeble shot by the #18. They were creating these kind of openings though.

For the penalty I was pretty sure the goalie cleaned someone however I thought the ref let play go on and wasn't sure the follow up was a penalty.

I wouldn't say the best team lost at all or the team that deserved to lose wonto be honest. Two evenly matched teams played it out and one team got the breaks over the other.
That was Shay Casey. A great wee player. He should've started after his performance against Ballycastle.

Aye Casey has been a great wee player, very sharp and good stick man, his first touch went over the bar, yes a weak effort when shouting for goal but lets be honest DIM Dim should be put out to pasture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 25, 2011, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 25, 2011, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Better team beat on the day which doesn't matter a jot to the shams, pen seemed harsh but hadn't a good view either! Carson had the chance to put the dall four up 20 yards out and missed de ja vu of pmcg last year. In fairness Shane was outstanding and cdall were unlucky just ran out of steam at the wrong time.

Don't know if a team can claim to be the best team when they don't score for the last 15 mins. I had a perfect view and it looked like a pen to me.

+1 from where I was it was a penalty. I understand the pressures of not wanting to give away a goal when there is a scramble in the box but I thought there were so many bodies in there that McCarry wouldn't have been able to get a shot off.
Don't think it was Kearney who took him out.

Martin Scullion make two top drawer catches in the last 5. Inspirational stuff.

Casey is a tidy wee player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on September 25, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
Anybody see Skinner (cdall mentor) that's how you keep your composure, not.
Fair play to babs he keep his. Skinner just couldn't hide it.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 08:19:41 PM
Look wino, they all took the piss outta each other on the line, PJ never smiled till they were in front!

Skinner was following PJ up the line and winding him up and PJ did the same after the penalty, no harm in that. Was funny for us neutrals.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 08:47:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 08:19:41 PM
Skinner was following PJ up the line and winding him up and PJ did the same after the penalty, no harm in that. Was funny for us neutrals.

We'd a good laugh watching that too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 25, 2011, 09:13:27 PM
There is an A.P.B. out for JesusJones, anyone seen him  ;D He probably thinks Loughguile won this one by default to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 09:32:53 PM
So who is next up for Loughguile?  Down champs or Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 25, 2011, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: Trout on September 25, 2011, 09:13:27 PM
There is an A.P.B. out for JesusJones, anyone seen him  ;D He probably thinks Loughguile won this one by default to.

Give the man a chance, barely been 5 hours since the game finished

Love to see the penalty incident on DVD
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
I can see Loughgiel dominating for a few years now, especially with the age profile of their squad. I think that victory today will bring them on a pile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 09:50:46 PM
Cushendall's age profile doesn't read so well although Neil McManus was missing today and was a massive loss. He's young enough. Paddy McNaughton, Terry McAllister, Martin Burke all very young and look excellent players mind. However Karl, Scullion, McKillop and guys like that approaching end of career.

Both teams today have done a lot more in underage in recent years than Dunloy so you'd have to imagine that Cushendall / Loughgiel will be the "big two" for a while. (Unless some city teams or Ballycastle have something to say about that but at present doesn't look likely)

Loughgiel are young and are a decent team to be fair to them. There are a couple of positions they could do with strengthening in and if so they could maybe give a few teams a rattle down south.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
Nice to see a few dall men over joining in celebrations. Fair dos!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:04:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 09:50:46 PM
Cushendall's age profile doesn't read so well although Neil McManus was missing today and was a massive loss. He's young enough. Paddy McNaughton, Terry McAllister, Martin Burke all very young and look excellent players mind. However Karl, Scullion, McKillop and guys like that approaching end of career.

Both teams today have done a lot more in underage in recent years than Dunloy so you'd have to imagine that Cushendall / Loughgiel will be the "big two" for a while. (Unless some city teams or Ballycastle have something to say about that but at present doesn't look likely)

Loughgiel are young and are a decent team to be fair to them. There are a couple of positions they could do with strengthening in and if so they could maybe give a few teams a rattle down south.

No they won't, the scoreline was low and untill the penalty they were beat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
I said if they get a few more players they could maybe MR. They need to strengthen a few areas though.

Loughgiel had created a few goal chances up till the penalty. Who knows if they had got another one and bagged it that could have changed things too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 25, 2011, 10:30:31 PM
Congrats to the Shamrocks. Great comeback. They should win Ulster and hopefully they will give the All Ireland a better crack this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:32:28 PM
Yeah and if Cushendall had have not give away penalty and scored that one Carson missed they might have won, they didn't and that's all you can judge a team on.

Like us last night, we should have scored 3 goals. Didn't and the better teams will do that against you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 25, 2011, 10:38:40 PM
u16 hurling finals:

Rossa beat Cushendall in the A while Ahoghill beat Rossa in the B

How are Rossa allowed to enter 2 teams or has there been a mistake made on the county site???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 10:42:05 PM
They had an A-Team and a B-Team I can only assume.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
Would you just go and enjoy your pint ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:52:38 PM
I'd love to but I have to work tomorrow. 5.30 comes quick!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 25, 2011, 10:56:33 PM
Jesus, ye have to tonight!  BTW, people havent mentioned DD too much, thought he was solid today and puck outs were good as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.

Look if I thought it was a penalty from where I seen it then I would have no problem in saying it was. Makes no difference to me who won. Said already I backed the -1 score. I just didn't see it though. Cushendall could have had a goal or two. DD turned his back on the one Shane hit, could have went anywhere really.

Judged on today's performance though I can't see how they will score 20 plus points needed to win against the 'big teams'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 11:04:12 PM
Judged by todays performance we're Antrim champions. We'll cross other bridges when we come to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 11:04:12 PM
Judged by todays performance we're Antrim champions. We'll cross other bridges when we come to them.

As we were on Saturday night.  Hopefully we will do the same, but here's the thing SIE, I'm an honest judge of my team and others, I fear no response from our players (they do take me to task for some things I say here) about what I see or how I think the game panned out.

I thought ya's were crap and I was going to lose a few pounds on ya's to boot!! Ballycran won by a point today, last minute goal they are nearly relegated so another free one for Ulster I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2011, 04:29:22 AM
as i thot use dunloy n cdall was crap, in end it worked out!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 06:16:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 11:04:12 PM
Judged by todays performance we're Antrim champions. We'll cross other bridges when we come to them.

As we were on Saturday night.  Hopefully we will do the same, but here's the thing SIE, I'm an honest judge of my team and others, I fear no response from our players (they do take me to task for some things I say here) about what I see or how I think the game panned out.

I thought ya's were crap and I was going to lose a few pounds on ya's to boot!! Ballycran won by a point today, last minute goal they are nearly relegated so another free one for Ulster I'd say
For what it's worth MR2 I've been sussed out by a few of my fellow Loughgiel men as well. It'll make no difference to what I say on here though. I think you're perhaps going a bit ott about us being crap, and believe it's more to do with you throwing your toys out of the pram because you lost a few quid. It's kind of payback time  for betting against your county, which still leaves a sour taste.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 06:17:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2011, 04:29:22 AM
as i thot use dunloy n cdall was crap, in end it worked out!!!!
Late night SG?    :D



http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3133







Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2011, 09:00:14 AM
Gees they were hardly crap. Both teams played well. Cushendall were better for about 40 of the first ~50 minutes and Lougiel were better for about ten of those and the last ten. Neither were crap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
I agree ITG. The main difference was that LG made their dominance count when it mattered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2011, 10:11:40 AM
Match was pretty clear cut I think - no need for a scientist to analyse it.
Dall were grinding out a win that they deserved - then the penalty showed in a way how fragile Antrim hurlers are. When it went in Shamrock started picking off points and catching balls they were never able to before and the Dall dropped their heads conceding defeat even tho they still level.
Graffin shackled Watson - Liam just has not been doing it latley maybe we expect too much. However can we end the debat on the penalty award? I got a good view and as a neutral it was a stonewall penalty.
I dont think Loughuile will be doing much in the south tho - simply not good enough across the 15 positions - but thats for another day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
I thought it was a penalty for the defender intentionally falling on top of the attacker who was already on the ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
Just checking the Antrim website - the Johnnies play Ballycran at Corrigan this week. Seems to be a relegation play-off? Anyone? Is there a cut-off date for the leagues this year? I notice our Administrator is just as defensive as ever must be terrible thinking the world is against you! Loughiel maybe know about this!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 26, 2011, 10:21:03 AM
I thought it was a penalty for the defender intentionally falling on top of the attacker who was already on the ground.

That's the way I saw it Skull.  Benny went down (i thought he slipped) but then the Cushendall player lay on top of him.  OE took his time and eventually gave the penalty.  Some people on here suggesting that OE 'handed it' to Loughgiel which I think is harsh on the ref who had a good game throughout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.

Look if I thought it was a penalty from where I seen it then I would have no problem in saying it was. Makes no difference to me who won. Said already I backed the -1 score. I just didn't see it though. Cushendall could have had a goal or two. DD turned his back on the one Shane hit, could have went anywhere really.

Judged on today's performance though I can't see how they will score 20 plus points needed to win against the 'big teams'

Must send you the DVD MR2 which shows DD standing up to Shane's shot, saving it with his stick and putting it out for a 65.  Maybe you saw it different from the camera  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:43:32 AM
Anyway, off to Mac's for a few pints of Carling and a wee drink out of big ears ;D 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 26, 2011, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
Just checking the Antrim website - the Johnnies play Ballycran at Corrigan this week. Seems to be a relegation play-off? Anyone? Is there a cut-off date for the leagues this year? I notice our Administrator is just as defensive as ever must be terrible thinking the world is against you! Loughiel maybe know about this!!

I think there is a cut of date of 23rd of October
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:43:32 AM
Anyway, off to Mac's for a few pints of Carling and a wee drink out of big ears ;D
Jammy sod!! I'm stuck in Banbridge, of all the f**king places!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
Broadband down in Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THE DADGA on September 26, 2011, 01:36:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:43:32 AM
Anyway, off to Mac's for a few pints of Carling and a wee drink out of big ears ;D
Jammy sod!! I'm stuck in Banbridge, of all the f**king places!!

NOTHIN WRONG WITH BANBRIDGE SEAMROGA!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 26, 2011, 01:46:42 PM
well done to loughgeil, wasn't at the match but general concensus is they deserved it so congrates all round
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: THE DADGA on September 26, 2011, 01:36:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:43:32 AM
Anyway, off to Mac's for a few pints of Carling and a wee drink out of big ears ;D
Jammy sod!! I'm stuck in Banbridge, of all the f**king places!!

NOTHIN WRONG WITH BANBRIDGE SEAMROGA!!
There is when there's a celebratory session going on in Macs and I'm stuck here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pat Mustard on September 26, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Highlights of hurling and football on TG4 tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 26, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.

Look if I thought it was a penalty from where I seen it then I would have no problem in saying it was. Makes no difference to me who won. Said already I backed the -1 score. I just didn't see it though. Cushendall could have had a goal or two. DD turned his back on the one Shane hit, could have went anywhere really.

Judged on today's performance though I can't see how they will score 20 plus points needed to win against the 'big teams'

Must send you the DVD MR2 which shows DD standing up to Shane's shot, saving it with his stick and putting it out for a 65.  Maybe you saw it different from the camera  ;)
Sure Milltown, did you not spend most of his time in the bar with some high profile SF mates and the like  ;).  Most likely he did not see the best part of the game.  Sure was'nt I in casement social club at the time also!!!!

Martin Scullion changed the outcome of the game in my opinion, and Barney McAuley's point immediately after Watsons goal was a complete cracker!  Loughgiel I think overall deserved their win.  Are Cushendall to be the next Loughgiel and have a constant run of county final lossess??????  2 in a row now for them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2011, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 26, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Sure Milltown, did you not spend most of his time in the bar with some high profile SF mates and the like  ;).  Most likely he did not see the best part of the game.  Sure was'nt I in casement social club at the time also!!!!

Martin Scullion changed the outcome of the game in my opinion, and Barney McAuley's point immediately after Watsons goal was a complete cracker!  Loughgiel I think overall deserved their win.  Are Cushendall to be the next Loughgiel and have a constant run of county final lossess??????  2 in a row no for them!

Is that where you were in 2009?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 26, 2011, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 26, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.

Look if I thought it was a penalty from where I seen it then I would have no problem in saying it was. Makes no difference to me who won. Said already I backed the -1 score. I just didn't see it though. Cushendall could have had a goal or two. DD turned his back on the one Shane hit, could have went anywhere really.

Judged on today's performance though I can't see how they will score 20 plus points needed to win against the 'big teams'

Must send you the DVD MR2 which shows DD standing up to Shane's shot, saving it with his stick and putting it out for a 65.  Maybe you saw it different from the camera  ;)
Sure Milltown, did you not spend most of his time in the bar with some high profile SF mates and the like  ;).  Most likely he did not see the best part of the game.  Sure was'nt I in casement social club at the time also!!!!

Martin Scullion changed the outcome of the game in my opinion, and Barney McAuley's point immediately after Watsons goal was a complete cracker!  Loughgiel I think overall deserved their win.  Are Cushendall to be the next Loughgiel and have a constant run of county final lossess??????  2 in a row no for them!

Goal seemed to wake Loughgiel up all right.  Can't remember Martin Scullion touching the ball before it!  Midfield was where Cushendall should have cleaned up.  Was surprised at them keeping Magill in the corner as he didn't see nearly enough ball as he should.  Big ask for KMK and AD
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
 Ulster Championship semi-final: Loughgiel vs Derry champions (I think it's either Dungiven sur or Lavey hi!).  Casement Pk,  9/10/2011.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2011, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: gelvis on September 26, 2011, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 26, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2011, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2011, 10:48:08 PM
MR2 Loughgiel missed a few goal chances before the penalty, which was a penalty btw, as well you know.

Look if I thought it was a penalty from where I seen it then I would have no problem in saying it was. Makes no difference to me who won. Said already I backed the -1 score. I just didn't see it though. Cushendall could have had a goal or two. DD turned his back on the one Shane hit, could have went anywhere really.

Judged on today's performance though I can't see how they will score 20 plus points needed to win against the 'big teams'

Must send you the DVD MR2 which shows DD standing up to Shane's shot, saving it with his stick and putting it out for a 65.  Maybe you saw it different from the camera  ;)
Sure Milltown, did you not spend most of his time in the bar with some high profile SF mates and the like  ;).  Most likely he did not see the best part of the game.  Sure was'nt I in casement social club at the time also!!!!

Martin Scullion changed the outcome of the game in my opinion, and Barney McAuley's point immediately after Watsons goal was a complete cracker!  Loughgiel I think overall deserved their win.  Are Cushendall to be the next Loughgiel and have a constant run of county final lossess??????  2 in a row no for them!

Goal seemed to wake Loughgiel up all right.  Can't remember Martin Scullion touching the ball before it!  Midfield was where Cushendall should have cleaned up.  Was surprised at them keeping Magill in the corner as he didn't see nearly enough ball as he should.  Big ask for KMK and AD

Magill switched to midfield with between fifteen and twenty minutes to go. That's when he scored the point (or two points) he got. Definitely he was more in it when in midfield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 26, 2011, 09:30:29 PM
Looked a stone wall penalty, though I thought cushendall should have been awarded frees in the build up to points number 6 and 14

Why did paddy McNaughton not start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2011, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 26, 2011, 09:30:29 PM
Looked a stone wall penalty, though I thought cushendall should have been awarded frees in the build up to points number 6 and 14

Why did paddy McNaughton not start

Yeah thought that was a strange one too, he has far more hurling in him than a few of those Cushendall forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Ok, after watching that again I'll change my mind, penalty alright!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Ok, after watching that again I'll change my mind, penalty alright!!
It's funny what you think you see at the time. I could've swore the keeper brought him down. I was wrong. Still a definite penalty though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Ok, after watching that again I'll change my mind, penalty alright!!
It's funny what you think you see at the time. I could've swore the keeper brought him down. I was wrong. Still a definite penalty though.

So think how hard it is for the referee!!  But sure, be Ballycran then you'll meet in the final. Tight for a period the you should beat them handy in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
Derry champs will be know walk over!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 10:51:21 PM
No they won't but they won't be as good as Cushendall!!

Ballygalget the last team outside of Antrim to win the Ulster championship, be a while before it happens again for a non Antrim team to wins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
jesus man dont be saying things like that,  you ever here of the scud??  ;D   lol   it will be just as tough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
jesus man dont be saying things like that,  you ever here of the scud??  ;D   lol   it will be just as tough

I'm f**king with ya ;D Some craic though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Joxer_man on September 26, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Cushendall seeking to get the shamrocks record, five beaten finals in a row!! be tough now  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2011, 02:07:22 AM
Quote from: Joxer_man on September 26, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Cushendall seeking to get the shamrocks record, five beaten finals in a row!! be tough now  :D
6 actually.  swings in round abouts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
We've thrown away a few ourselves. What goes around comes around!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Alter Ego on September 27, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
New to the board lads, exciting final it was but in all fairness imo I believe Cushendal threw it away,a draw would have been a fair result and if the shamrocks don't lift the level they may struggle against Lynch's who I think Will comfortably come out of Derry. Ballycran well who knows what a bit of belief does should make for an entertaining couple of games? Still a wins a win and like all good teams when your performance wasn't the best and still  grind out a result should be congratulated.

Looking at the remaining teams from Antrim, Lamhs will struggle especially if Carrickmore get some momentum, so I'll go with Greggan in the junior for what could be an exciting journey if lucks with them, and on to croker, think they have a great chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 27, 2011, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
We've thrown away a few ourselves. What goes around comes around!
Bottom line Seamroga, Loughgiels name is on the Vol. Cup once more in 2011 and there's no denying that fact now!

The envious snipers from the Dall and Dunloy have now to swallow a bitter pill!  It was character, discipline and belief which got Loughgiel over the line, although few here would admit that!  Enjoy  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 27, 2011, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
We've thrown away a few ourselves. What goes around comes around!
Bottom line Seamroga, Loughgiels name is on the Vol. Cup once more in 2011 and there's no denying that fact now!

The envious snipers from the Dall and Dunloy have now to swallow a bitter pill!  It was character, discipline and belief which got Loughgiel over the line, although few here would admit that!  Enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

Not happy with the general civility of proceedings a knobend has to look for the rise from the non LG members of the board. A shining example
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 09:45:13 AM
wise up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 09:47:39 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 09:45:13 AM
wise up!

It would help if you put that in context...i.e who are you referring to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
well done and get over it~!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 09:58:53 AM
Dearyme ...if you want your comments to be properly interpreted, it really would help if you stated who your comments are directed at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 27, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 09:22:46 AM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 27, 2011, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
We've thrown away a few ourselves. What goes around comes around!
Bottom line Seamroga, Loughgiels name is on the Vol. Cup once more in 2011 and there's no denying that fact now!

The envious snipers from the Dall and Dunloy have now to swallow a bitter pill!  It was character, discipline and belief which got Loughgiel over the line, although few here would admit that!  Enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

Not happy with the general civility of proceedings a knobend has to look for the rise from the non LG members of the board. A shining example


A shining example of what Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 12:43:50 PM
A shining example of the stereotpypical loon supporter who not happy basking in the glory of others acheivements (i.e those on the pitch who actually won the bloody thing) tries to derive more pleasure by trying to provoke negativity from others in the hope he'll get the right reaction so that he can goad further thereby making the victory even more sweeter for him somehow.

Would you agree?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 12:43:50 PM
A shining example of the stereotpypical loon supporter who not happy basking in the glory of others acheivements (i.e those on the pitch who actually won the bloody thing) tries to derive more pleasure by trying to provoke negativity from others in the hope he'll get the right reaction so that he can goad further thereby making the victory even more sweeter for him somehow.

Would you agree?

Exactly Skull. Thats exactly what this fuckpot (and some like him) are trying to do. Seeking notoriety
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
And where would this bogash fellow be from then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on September 27, 2011, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 26, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
I said with 11 mins to go this is C'dall's to lose and they duly obliged. They had put themselves in the position to win and just stopped playing from the penalty onwards. Maybe after the postmortem we will get the theories of the C'dall posters. In my opinion they have thrown away 2 in a row.
We've thrown away a few ourselves. What goes around comes around!
Bottom line Seamroga, Loughgiels name is on the Vol. Cup once more in 2011 and there's no denying that fact now!

The envious snipers from the Dall and Dunloy have now to swallow a bitter pill! It was character, discipline and belief which got Loughgiel over the line, although few here would admit that!  Enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

this is becoming tiresome!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
And where would this bogash fellow be from then?

Bog (the Bog meadows) Ash camán

I'm guessing he's a Galls hurler, or is he?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
work that out on your own MR2? ;)

surely its a double bluff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:20:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
And where would this bogash fellow be from then?

Bog (the Bog meadows) Ash camán

I'm guessing he's a Galls hurler, or is he?

that's what I've typed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Alter Ego on September 27, 2011, 03:22:01 PM
Listen lads, he's getting the reaction he wants, so ignore it basically. Anyway it also has to be said that Owen Elliott did a great job imo, he stayed out and only when required did he impose the proper sanctions, he must be congratulated along with the shamrocks who wouldn't probably until Sunday been a fan i am lead to believe. He has done a few games down are way and equipped himself well, so credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:25:52 PM
Yeah i thought Owen did well. The match didn't really have major decisions to be made. After watching the replay of the penalty incident he got it right. The lad did go to ground first but the Dall lads then landed on him to give away the penalty.

Had the left him on the ground he would have over carried the ball or lost it. Panic sets in when the opposition has the ball in the square
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 03:44:18 PM
The ref did well and to be fair to the two teams they didn't make it too difficult a job for him either as it was a good clean game.

Dunno why you guys even bother debating posters like this - not worth the time.

I'd expect Loughgiel to beat Derry champions by close to ten points. I think they should win their semi handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 04:04:29 PM
I get where you're coming from to a degree itg, but every now and then it's good to get a concensus on "posters like this"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2011, 04:09:05 PM
Well if this one goes to the same pattern he'll be having digs at MR2 some time soon...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 07:56:14 PM
I'm  everyone's friend  ;Di
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 27, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
well lads on the game i think for the neutral it was a cracker. the two best teams in antrim going at it hell for leather. a very tense atmosphere in the stand as both sets of supporters were very muted as neither team could put daylight on the scoreboard. listen im absolutely gutted to lose as the team hurled brilliantly. gave a performance i think very few thought they had in them. very proud of our lads. but to the victor, the spoils & the shammrocks can be proud of the reply of their team in the last 10mins. the truth for me on the penalty is that it could as easily have not been given but i want to stress that im not saying it wasnt a penalty. owen elliott took a long time to blow & that tells me that he was convinced he saw a foul, & that he walked in to see if it was inside the square, which it was. a big big call but he made the call & good luck to him.i for one think if he did get it wrong it was not intentional. he had a very solid game throughout. i think its unfair to say the 'dall lost it. for me loughguile won it. maybe they got a good break with the penalty but they then ruthlessly took everything possible from that good break & for me that is what any good team would do. if we had turned a 4pt deficit into a 3pt win in 10 mins i would be talking about our teams great character & i think thats the what we should do for the shammrocks. losing hurts like hell but loughguile wrote the book on hard luck stories over the last few years so no sympathy expected here.we'll be back next year no doubt but for now well done loughguile & all the best for ulster & all ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
Very magnanimous of you auld stock. A bit of common sense in this thread for a change. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 27, 2011, 09:06:12 PM
Yes Aulstock, well said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
Fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 27, 2011, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Alter Ego on September 27, 2011, 07:17:27 AM
New to the board lads, exciting final it was but in all fairness imo I believe Cushendal threw it away,a draw would have been a fair result and if the shamrocks don't lift the level they may struggle against Lynch's who I think Will comfortably come out of Derry. Ballycran well who knows what a bit of belief does should make for an entertaining couple of games? Still a wins a win and like all good teams when your performance wasn't the best and still  grind out a result should be congratulated.

Looking at the remaining teams from Antrim, Lamhs will struggle especially if Carrickmore get some momentum, so I'll go with Greggan in the junior for what could be an exciting journey if lucks with them, and on to croker, think they have a great chance.

You must be the only Burren hurling man Owen Alter

Was a good battle and looked good on TG4 last nite with both teams goin hell for leather and a cracking atmosphere.

Only downside was an unfortunate often noticable Antrim Hurling trait  that is poor striking and also handling and stupid unforced errors. But a great battle for the rest of the country to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Alter Ego on September 28, 2011, 07:02:33 AM
Nice one Gold! Cant state my birth place then ;D And yes the Ash wouldn't have been promoted to much as a juvenile but hey when in "Rome" eating Chips why not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2011, 03:14:36 PM
Does anyone know when the Derry final is to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: trasna man on September 28, 2011, 03:59:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2011, 03:14:36 PM
Does anyone know when the Derry final is to be played?
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01/10/2011
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 28, 2011, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2011, 03:14:36 PM
Does anyone know when the Derry final is to be played?

Saturday in derry city. Lynchs missing herron and mckeever from last years team, and Craig who broke his colarbone after returning from Oz. Lavey have a few lads who haven't lined out this year because of football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 28, 2011, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 28, 2011, 04:02:14 PM
Any odds anywhere?

Never seen odds on the hurling final before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2011, 07:03:56 PM
I might venture up to Derry a scoot on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 28, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: 4father on September 27, 2011, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2011, 12:43:50 PM
A shining example of the stereotpypical loon supporter who not happy basking in the glory of others acheivements (i.e those on the pitch who actually won the bloody thing) tries to derive more pleasure by trying to provoke negativity from others in the hope he'll get the right reaction so that he can goad further thereby making the victory even more sweeter for him somehow.

Would you agree?

Exactly Skull. Thats exactly what this fuckpot (and some like him) are trying to do. Seeking notoriety
Tut, tut, tut, tut, TUT!  I would watch my language if I was you!  No call for that at all.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 28, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
And where would this bogash fellow be from then?

Bog (the Bog meadows) Ash camán

I'm guessing he's a Galls hurler, or is he?
I like the way your thinking Milltown, but nah, sorry! :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
My God SIE you must be bored!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2011, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
My God SIE you must be bored!!
Not really,   id say half of Loughgiel will be at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2011, 01:07:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
My God SIE you must be bored!!
See post above by SG. We've got a vested interest in the outcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
I know - but I could still think of better ways to spend a sunday afternoon! Maybe in Portaferry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2011, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
I know - but I could still think of better ways to spend a sunday afternoon! Maybe in Portaferry?
The Derry final is on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: black and amber boy on September 29, 2011, 01:57:49 PM
does anybody know what happened them 2 campbell men from cushendall after the row in ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 29, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Nice first post black & amber boy - you'll win no friends here by naming names like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on September 29, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on September 29, 2011, 01:57:49 PM
does anybody know what happened them 2 campbell men from cushendall after the row in ballycastle

No idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2011, 04:07:48 PM
Woeful first post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
Whoops sorry SIE! Altho I still think there's better ways to spend the day than watching the Derry final it won't affect your game... Have a pint man sure didn't u miss some of your celebrations!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2011, 06:30:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
Whoops sorry SIE! Altho I still think there's better ways to spend the day than watching the Derry final it won't affect your game... Have a pint man sure didn't u miss some of your celebrations!
Aye, I did unfortunately. I couldn't get Monday off work. Somebody else had already booked that week off to go on holiday. Still, I was there to see the cup coming home. I'm hoping to get the Monday off after the Ulster final, if we get there of course. Believe me, I'll make up for it.   ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 30, 2011, 04:49:20 PM
Are you working the night shift SIE or an early start at 06.30 am?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2011, 05:22:59 PM
I get up early to start early.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on September 30, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
You would sure need to do that with some of these hallions!  "Early bird catches the worm"  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on September 30, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 01, 2011, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: 4father on September 30, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well maybe this will waken you up!

Just think of it, Neil McManus, a prolific hurler and scorer  (and a nice lad - to boot) actually accumulated 0- 43 points in this years (AI) hurling championship and was not even nominated for an ALL Star Award. Absolutely amazing!

To put it another way, that's more than some of you lads scored in your entire hurling career!!!! Now, that is even more amazing!!!!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on October 01, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 01, 2011, 01:32:12 PM
SIE - 2/5dungiven  2/1lavey. Don't waste your red diesel on day like that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2011, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 01, 2011, 01:32:12 PM
SIE - 2/5dungiven  2/1lavey. Don't waste your red diesel on day like that!
Haha, hard to beat a drop of the oul red biddy!!

It finished a draw.

Kevin Lynch's 1-14 Lavey 3-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 02, 2011, 07:46:08 AM
Replay on Wednesday night, huge advantage handed to Loughgiel for game on Sunday, but really there is no excuse for Derry to be playing their county final the week before the Ulster semi-final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2011, 10:05:24 AM
If I were lavey and dungiven I'd refuse to play the USF and play the county final next weekend regardless. Winner already on a beaten docket if they play wed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 02, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2011, 10:05:24 AM
If I were lavey and dungiven I'd refuse to play the USF and play the county final next weekend regardless. Winner already on a beaten docket if they play wed

Rules is rules skull.  As Max says, they (Derry Board) only have themselves to blame for playing their Co Final so close to USF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
Half time in the peninsula:

Portaferry 0-02 LG 4-12

Glad I didn't venture down this morning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2011, 03:16:13 PM
Final score:

Portaferry 0-06 Shamrocks 6-19
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 02, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
St. Johns beat Ballycran but not by enough to move them below Oisin & St. Johns.  Now 'Cran are safe - between the other two for relegation, out of Glenariffe hands, and up to the 'Dall to decide who goes down now  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2011, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 02, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2011, 10:05:24 AM
If I were lavey and dungiven I'd refuse to play the USF and play the county final next weekend regardless. Winner already on a beaten docket if they play wed

Rules is rules skull.  As Max says, they (Derry Board) only have themselves to blame for playing their Co Final so close to USF.

Dual clubs in Derry will know what respect the Derry county board have for hurling, yet you'd prefer that they just get on with it. Hardly fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 02, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
St. Johns beat Ballycran but not by enough to move them below Oisin & St. Johns.  Now 'Cran are safe - between the other two for relegation, out of Glenariffe hands, and up to the 'Dall to decide who goes down now  ;)

We need Dall to win by 10 or more, providing they field.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 07:01:08 PM
surely they will,  :P

you will be in milltown next year!! I'll buy ya a pint. Tosh playing on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2011, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 07:01:08 PM
surely they will,  :P

you will be in milltown next year!! I'll buy ya a pint. Tosh playing on?

Tosh is retired, allegedly. He didn't play until July this year but we could still be doing with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 02, 2011, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on October 01, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well maybe this will waken you up!

Just think of it, Neil McManus, a prolific hurler and scorer  (and a nice lad - to boot) actually accumulated 0- 43 points in this years (AI) hurling championship and was not even nominated for an ALL Star Award. Absolutely amazing!

To put it another way, that's more than some of you lads scored in your entire hurling career!!!! Now, that is even more amazing!!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2011, 08:11:13 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 02, 2011, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on October 01, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well maybe this will waken you up!

Just think of it, Neil McManus, a prolific hurler and scorer  (and a nice lad - to boot) actually accumulated 0- 43 points in this years (AI) hurling championship and was not even nominated for an ALL Star Award. Absolutely amazing!

To put it another way, that's more than some of you lads scored in your entire hurling career!!!! Now, that is even more amazing!!!!

Echo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 02, 2011, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on October 01, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Well maybe this will waken you up!

Just think of it, Neil McManus, a prolific hurler and scorer  (and a nice lad - to boot) actually accumulated 0- 43 points in this years (AI) hurling championship and was not even nominated for an ALL Star Award. Absolutely amazing!

To put it another way, that's more than some of you lads scored in your entire hurling career!!!! Now, that is even more amazing!!!!

::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 02, 2011, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 02, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 02, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
St. Johns beat Ballycran but not by enough to move them below Oisin & St. Johns.  Now 'Cran are safe - between the other two for relegation, out of Glenariffe hands, and up to the 'Dall to decide who goes down now  ;)

We need Dall to win by 10 or more, providing they field.........

We should refix our game, you beat us by a big margin you stay in the league, we beat you by a big margin we win the league ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:53:59 PM
Fcuk them :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 02, 2011, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 02, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 02, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
St. Johns beat Ballycran but not by enough to move them below Oisin & St. Johns.  Now 'Cran are safe - between the other two for relegation, out of Glenariffe hands, and up to the 'Dall to decide who goes down now  ;)

We need Dall to win by 10 or more, providing they field.........

We should refix our game, you beat us by a big margin you stay in the league, we beat you by a big margin we win the league ::)

As long as you have no training weekends that would clash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
It was in Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
It was in Cushendall.

county website showed different :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
It was in Cushendall.
county website showed different :o
Apparantly Ballygalgets pitch was waterlogged so match had to be played in C'dall. I'd say wee Joe was involved in this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 02, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
It was in Cushendall.
county website showed different :o
Apparantly Ballygalgets pitch was waterlogged so match had to be played in C'dall. I'd say wee Joe was involved in this

I'd say being CCC chairman he would
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
Unfortunately for the Dall, we're in the same situation. Also I believe one of those out-standing games is against ourselves, postponed from round 5 in June. Whether we play it or nor is another matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2011, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
Unfortunately for the Dall, we're in the same situation. Also I believe one of those out-standing games is against ourselves, postponed from round 5 in June. Whether we play it or nor is another matter.
I'm sure casement would turn the light on this wed night for youse to make sure it gets played if a weekend can't be found.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 03, 2011, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 03, 2011, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D
Unfortunately for the Dall, we're in the same situation. Also I believe one of those out-standing games is against ourselves, postponed from round 5 in June. Whether we play it or nor is another matter.
I'm sure casement would turn the light on this wed night for youse to make sure it gets played if a weekend can't be found.
Aye, only if wee Joe and Fankie have enough 50p for the meter!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 03, 2011, 08:52:36 AM

Determined to wind up his GAA presidency with a bang, Christy Cooney has rowed in behind a suggestion made by Dublin county chairman Andy Kettle that the All-Ireland finals should be brought forward a month to August to free up time for club championships.





"There is certain merit in that," the Youghal native told RTE on Saturday.

"It will get consideration. Maybe in that type of situation we'd be able to run off our club championships in a calendar year... It will be discussed."

Central Council is shortly expected to receive a report from the national fixtures planning committee which could recommend restricting the time-span of the marquee competitions.

Now that is not a bad idea in my opinion :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 03, 2011, 09:50:07 AM
OK guys help me out here:

The dall could win the league and so could the Shamrocks - but neither might really be interested?

St Johns are staying up and Glenarriffe are down - unless Dall beat St John by 10points?

So can the men from Corrigan just stall fixtures until the cut off date? That way they will remain above Glenarriffe and stay up?

Will the game be played and alot depends on if it is significant to the Dall or not?

A twist and a turn and a dark committee meeting decide things before this one is put to bed!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2011, 10:23:59 AM
I'd imagine there'd be a sanction of some kind if the Johnies didn't fulfil their fixtures. Maybe point deduction or some sort. As for the flood light suggestion, I don't think Cushendall would be to happy if it was played in Casement as it's  their home fixture. We also have an Ulster league final to play at some stage. That'll probably be under lights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on October 03, 2011, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D

I dont know about you but Imo thats a grand result for us considering the team we had out , or lack of team... some big names in there too but a few minors and worse on the team , dog awful game all round... i see graham clarke has found a new position stuck in the corner, And to answer , Sending our neighbours to belfast every week would be sweet but playing them and getting tore into them is just as sweet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: exiledjohn on October 04, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
SIE why do you believe that St Johns would be deducted points is the fixture didnt go ahead? I dont remember it happening before.

Anyway the game has been fixed for Sunday as per the county site
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2011, 11:13:21 AM
I said maybe ej, but it is a sanction they can use. I believe they can deduct 1 point for failing to field.  They'll be in line for a fine as well. It's all hypothetical anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2011, 02:02:08 PM
So Dall V Johnnies has turned from a uselss end of season league game to one with meaning at both the top and bottom?

Any predictions guys? How will each team approach it?

And if the Dall win - will Glenarriffe / St Johns accept relegation based on points difference?
Or will we see some committee goings-on?!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 02:13:56 PM
The Dall will win, but by how much depends on other things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 04, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Are St Johns training? God only knows what sort of team we will have

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 04, 2011, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 04, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Are St Johns training? God only knows what sort of team we will have

Aye they are still doing a bit as far as I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
Typical, train all winter, drink all summer train all winter.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 03:38:28 PM
Very true NAG of a few clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2011, 03:50:11 PM
Should we move to be a winter sport?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2011, 05:28:34 PM
I thought it was an all year sport anyway. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
In your case it's twice in twenty years :P

Will there be an improvement on last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2011, 08:02:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
In your case it's twice in twenty years :P

Will there be an improvement on last year?
Twice in two years, I think you'll find.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
depends on how you see it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 04, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
depends on how you see it
And how many times for Noamh Gall Miltown in the last 20 years, or two years for that matter?  I suppose it depends on how I see it???????

A bit hard on the SIE lad!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
Smiley face bogman means taking the piss, SIE can look after himself!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 04, 2011, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
Smiley face bogman means taking the piss, SIE can look after himself!
And where is the smiley face????  ;D :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: black and amber boy on October 04, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
i think it is irrelevant that loughgiel have won the championship an they most definitly will win ulster an that will b it they might aswell not train all winter for the all ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
In your case it's twice in twenty years :P

Will there be an improvement on last year?

::) ::)

You're a goodin

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2011, 09:44:40 PM
Since when has winning the championship been irrelevant? I don't think it's irrelevant to the clubs that are relevant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on October 04, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on October 04, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
i think it is irrelevant that loughgiel have won the championship an they most definitly will win ulster an that will b it they might aswell not train all winter for the all ireland

Your first post was a very poor one and your second one was equally as bad. They are there on merit and will be in the AI series giving it their all, more than what Ballycastle can say, if of course you are a Ballycastle man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2011, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on October 03, 2011, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Cushendall only won by 3-19 to 1-4 in Ballygalget!!

and if they finish the league by winning their games they will win it, Small consolation i know but sending your neighbours to Belfast every other weekend in div two will ease their pain ;D

I dont know about you but Imo thats a grand result for us considering the team we had out , or lack of team... some big names in there too but a few minors and worse on the team , dog awful game all round... i see graham clarke has found a new position stuck in the corner, And to answer , Sending our neighbours to belfast every week would be sweet but playing them and getting tore into them is just as sweet

Wasn't pretty from our side either, some lads going for the 'hair of the dog' cure on the way up the road.

End of season stuff. We've done SFA for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on October 04, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
i think it is irrelevant that loughgiel have won the championship an they most definitely will win ulster an that will b it they might aswell not train all winter for the all ireland
Its because of people like you, use deserve nothing!!  Use had your chance and we know how that ended!!   so SHUT IT!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2011, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: 4father on October 04, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on October 04, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
i think it is irrelevant that loughgiel have won the championship an they most definitly will win ulster an that will b it they might aswell not train all winter for the all ireland

Your first post was a very poor one and your second one was equally as bad. They are there on merit and will be in the AI series giving it their all, more than what Ballycastle can say, if of course you are a Ballycastle man.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
In your case it's twice in twenty years :P

Will there be an improvement on last year?
De Le salle knocked out of waterford and Lars team out also, massive upsets!!  Were not out of ulster yet, so we shall have to cool semi final chat until we hopefully get job done ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2011, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2011, 05:53:18 PM
In your case it's twice in twenty years :P

Will there be an improvement on last year?
De Le salle knocked out of waterford and Lars team out also, massive upsets!!  Were not out of ulster yet, so we shall have to cool semi final chat until we hopefully get job done ;)
I agree SG. Nothing's taken for granted at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: black and amber boy on October 05, 2011, 12:22:44 AM
for your information yes i am a ballycastle man and tbh loughgiel have now won the last 2 finals which i observed an u's didnt deserve either of them as u's were totally outplayed in both.
yes ino we have had our chance and im not going to lie it will b a while yet till we get another 1
i was just simply saying ulster hurling is poor and u's are far from the best team in it so therefore i dont think u's will do well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 05, 2011, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: black and amber boy on October 05, 2011, 12:22:44 AM
for your information yes i am a ballycastle man and tbh loughgiel have now won the last 2 finals which i observed an u's didnt deserve either of them as u's were totally outplayed in both.
yes ino we have had our chance and im not going to lie it will b a while yet till we get another 1
i was just simply saying ulster hurling is poor and u's are far from the best team in it so therefore i dont think u's will do well
didn't deserve either?  Alot of them lads have been together at least 10 years, done the 6 in row :(  went back out every February when use were not even thinking about training and stuck at it!!  and now today have 2 county titles in a row, everyones entitled to an opinion, yours just happens to be trash, any true hurling man no matter how bias cannot tell me that team doesn't deserve at least them two in the last 12/13 years, for effort alone!!    And peope wonder whats wrong with hurling in antrim/ulster,  Pratt's like yourself. when a team does eventually go out of ulster. should it be loughgiel dunloy cdall or whoever, i will support them!!   ULSTER!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 05, 2011, 09:37:32 AM
SG, you maybe can understand it to an extent when so many of your club men didnt share your good nature over the years with various clubs at the AI stage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2011, 09:59:46 AM
Ah come on guys - this old chestnut again?!

To say that Loughiel did not deserve their championship is utter trash - never mind coming back from the defeats - if u win a championship it is because u deserve it simple. To suggest a team was outplayed in 2 finals and yet won both would mean hurling is devalued as a asport and we all know thats not true. Either u are stoking the fire or u just have ur head in the ballycastle sand.

That said, yes Loughiel have only themselves to blame as to why they are so unpopular! Not being form N.Antrim I doubted some of it but having witnessed (and heard) the support and Casement it is liitle wonder some people have given the Shamrocks such a bad name.

But - good luck in Ulster and AI!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: black and amber boy on October 05, 2011, 12:22:44 AM
for your information yes i am a ballycastle man and tbh loughgiel have now won the last 2 finals which i observed an u's didnt deserve either of them as u's were totally outplayed in both.
yes ino we have had our chance and im not going to lie it will b a while yet till we get another 1
i was just simply saying ulster hurling is poor and u's are far from the best team in it so therefore i dont think u's will do well

black and amber boy I wasn't too fond of Loughgiel after the semi final when feelings were raw. but they were going to beat us anyway even if we'd a had 15 men for the whole game. They looked beat in the final but got back into it and won it and deserved it for no other reason except their guts. Your posts are no credit to you or the club. Take a step back and look at your attitude. Is it any better than them Loughgiel supporters who give them a bad name? Loughgiel have good players and decent supporters as well as 4$$holes just like every club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2011, 11:17:14 AM
Jesus boys, take a look at your own clubs and fix them before you go slabbering about others.

Pot, kettle, black!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 05, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
Boys give LG a break, they've won 2 in a row which is the mark of a good team, you can win a championship if you get a bit of luck but only good teams win 2 in a row. This years final was a cracking game, I thought we had it but fair play to LG, they took the game by the scruff of the neck and won it. We won 3 championships in 4 years there when Karl Mc Keegan, Odhran Scullion, Declan Mc Killop, Kevin Elliott, Aidan Delargy and Michael Mc Cambridge were all in the 25-30 age bracket. Now these lads are all 30+, some aren't even hurling any more. Loughgiel have Barney Mc Auley, Liam Watson, Martin Scullion, Joey Scullion, Neilly Mc Garry and Johnny Campbell in this age bracket now and they are the top team at this moment and all credit too them they have went through some tough times. I have every confidence that we'll be back in the not too distant future. In my opinion players are in there prime 25-30 and we have a great crop of young fellas around 23 or 24. Neil Mc Manus, Paddy Mc Gill, Shane Mc Naughton, Aaron Graffin and Conor Carson. Then we have Paddy Mc Naughton, Marty Burke and Terry Mc Alister around 20-22 as well as winning the 2010 minor championship. Only getting over the defeat now but I'm confident about the future for us. We just have to accept what happened, congratulate Loughgiel and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
Good post JJ. I've a feeling we'll be contesting a few more finals in the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 05, 2011, 12:44:27 PM
JJ, fairplay, didn't think you had that post in you! And yes we do have a percentage of our supporters who you could name that wouldn't be the best at times ;D   but we all have them.  maybe black and amber boy only is a 'boy' and hasn't a clue for nothing else but slabbering!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 05, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
It looks like it SIE. Sleeping giant it did take me 10 days before I could bring myself to admit it  :D Sometimes you do everything right and still get beat. Everything we were looking for from our players we got. Graffin hurled Watson off the park, Shane got the scores we knew he could and Martin Scullion didn't catch a ball until the 57th minute, we'd have taken that before the ball was thrown in but fair play to the Shamrocks, they still got the job done. We missed Mc Manus for no other reason than, when we let in the goal the man we would have looked too with the poc out was Neil, he is our go to guy, our leader, our inspirational player. We didn't have him and it cost us, however we'll be back. Good luck to LG in Ulster. Any word on an Antrim manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 05, 2011, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 05, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
It looks like it SIE. Sleeping giant it did take me 10 days before I could bring myself to admit it  :D Sometimes you do everything right and still get beat. Everything we were looking for from our players we got. Graffin hurled Watson off the park, Shane got the scores we knew he could and Martin Scullion didn't catch a ball until the 57th minute, we'd have taken that before the ball was thrown in but fair play to the Shamrocks, they still got the job done. We missed Mc Manus for no other reason than, when we let in the goal the man we would have looked too with the poc out was Neil, he is our go to guy, our leader, our inspirational player. We didn't have him and it cost us, however we'll be back. Good luck to LG in Ulster. Any word on an Antrim manager?

http://www.hoganstand.com/antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156045 - Monday evening according to HoganStand.  2 way fight between Cahill and Wallis !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 05, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Pretty good posts JJ

normally i dont pick up on grammar etc, as i cant spell wirth shtie.  But any chance of a paragragh or two in there, my eyes are sore reading those  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 05, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
Megaman get yourself an eye test. 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
Dungiven in the semi final then.

DG 5-11 Lavey 1-07
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 05, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
Dungiven in the semi final then.

DG 5-11 Lavey 1-07
small bit more in it this time round,   sirs wont be easy worked with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 06, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
Any word on hurling manager???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 06, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
Looks like Wallis has been asked to stay on with Limerick, (I would imagine the money would be better there too)

So as I said before if Dinny still wants to do it then he should have been given a clear run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 06, 2011, 06:05:38 PM
It would be a pity if we missed out on Jerry Wallis, we improved dramatically with his training in 2010, to be honest I think we've went back a small bit in 2011 and I know any of our county players would tell you his trainings were brilliant and that he was a great man to have around the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 06, 2011, 09:47:04 PM
westmeath in leinster then winners play galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2011, 09:52:09 PM
Westmeath have proved difficult in the league games but we have managed to beat them in the Championships.

Galway?? Depends on which Galway team turns up, they have come in for some criticism of late but they have always had too much for us in championship. But two games more than we would normally get should bring us on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 08, 2011, 11:36:04 AM
Good Luck to Loughgiel and the Lamh's tomorrow.  Cant make the game as I have to work, just hope both Antrim teams come through!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Alter Ego on October 08, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
BAC you sure your not working at the game ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
Anyone know who the ref is tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 08, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: Alter Ego on October 08, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
BAC you sure your not working at the game ;)
U talking to me?  As I said, I have to work tomorrow and cant make the game.  Some of us do have to work for a living! Do you have difficulty understanding what I said or something? A very strange comment for a Newbie and a Burren man????????????? Yeah, a county Down man from Burren on an Antrim Hurling Board thread, yeah sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
Deccy mage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 08, 2011, 09:01:02 PM
Forgot to wish Cushendall all the best before the county final, so I would like to take this opportunity to wish them good luck tomorrow against St Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
Well isn't that lovely  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
?? Where's this at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 08, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
?? Where's this at?

Dall, they are running two  supporters buses from Waterfoot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 09:52:27 PM
I was going to head to Casement but may change venue  :P I predict a 9 point win ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 08, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 09:52:27 PM
I was going to head to Casement but may change venue  :P I predict a 9 point win ;D

What happens if it is level points difference between both teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2011, 11:15:02 PM
Points scored and points conceeded being the same? Play off neutral venue i'd say.

Should be a good game. Be more Osin's suppporters than both sets playing!! Don't care who wins in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
Lamhs  0-3 Na Fianna 1-4  half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 02:51:21 PM
Lamh derg getting beat 1-09 to 3-09.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 02:56:14 PM
Not many in the social club. Has everbody taken the pledge?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
I was there earlier. Any word on st johns?

Lamhs beat by better team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 09, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
I was there earlier. Any word on st johns?

Lamhs beat by better team.

St Johns are 3 up in second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 04:25:33 PM
12 mins gone 2nd half. LG leading 1-11 to 1-04. Haven't got out of first gear yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
5 mins left. 2-15 to 1-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 04:47:35 PM
FT. 2-18 to 1-05.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 09, 2011, 04:49:24 PM
Cushendall 3-9 St John's 1-15.  From Lapland to Borneo, that's level scores in any man's language!  Cushendall probably should have won with the amount of wides they hit but were never going to win by enough to save Glenariffe.

I hear there were alot of the Cushendall boys drinking in Glenariffe lastnight and winding up the locals...didn't get to bed before the game either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
Dinny out. Wallis in. Anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2011, 07:03:24 PM
I got the Monday off after the Ulster final!  :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 09, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
I was there earlier. Any word on st johns?

Lamhs beat by better team.

Are that Armagh team their senior champions? i.e. the same as Keady were last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 09, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
Middletown well worth the win. Loughgeil won pulling up in the senior game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 08:46:37 PM
Poor performance by Dungiven today. Loughgiel didn't get out of first gear and should beat ballycran handy.

Surprised that Lamhs were beat today, but after 5 minutes Lamhs looked in trouble, best player was paddy Cunningham!!

Na Fianna were well up for it and should win the final after that performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 09, 2011, 09:29:45 PM
We'll have to improve on our 1st half performance if we're going to beat Ballycran !! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2011, 10:00:45 PM
I'm surprised that the hurling convert from Tyrone is not on, his knowledge of the sport is renowned. I was waiting on his report on today's games and who was responsible for the defeats ;D ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 10, 2011, 10:54:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 09, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
Dinny out. Wallis in. Anyone?

Yip that's what I heard.  To be confirmed at tonights meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2011, 03:20:51 PM
You Shamrocks must be looking down south with glee! Portumna gone now as well! It seems all the big boys are gone apart from Ballyhale! But does a weak side ever come out of Munster? Cannot see Ballycran putting up much resistance so no doubt Loughiel will be optimistic for February!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2011, 03:30:30 PM
Thought Portumna won did they not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2011, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2011, 03:30:30 PM
Thought Portumna won did they not?
I heard they were beat by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 10, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
beat by a point by St. Thomas'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2011, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 10, 2011, 03:20:51 PM
You Shamrocks must be looking down south with glee! Portumna gone now as well! It seems all the big boys are gone apart from Ballyhale! But does a weak side ever come out of Munster? Cannot see Ballycran putting up much resistance so no doubt Loughiel will be optimistic for February!
Are Clarinbridge not considered a "big boy"?  I believe they drew their game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 10, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
I wouldn't classify Clarinbridge in the 'big boy' catergory, really over recent years Ballyhale and Portumna have sety a new level for club hurling, inevitably they are on the wain, like most I thought Thurles Sarsfields had a team capable of being as good.

In recent years we had Sarsfields (Galway), Athenry, Birr, Portuma & Ballyhale really dominate at various stages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 10, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 10, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
I wouldn't classify Clarinbridge in the 'big boy' catergory, really over recent years Ballyhale and Portumna have sety a new level for club hurling, inevitably they are on the wain, like most I thought Thurles Sarsfields had a team capable of being as good.

In recent years we had Sarsfields (Galway), Athenry, Birr, Portuma & Ballyhale really dominate at various stages.
No there not 'Big Boy'   just won the thing last year ???   Shamrocks are not looking past Ulster final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 10, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 10, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
I wouldn't classify Clarinbridge in the 'big boy' catergory, really over recent years Ballyhale and Portumna have sety a new level for club hurling, inevitably they are on the wain, like most I thought Thurles Sarsfields had a team capable of being as good.

In recent years we had Sarsfields (Galway), Athenry, Birr, Portuma & Ballyhale really dominate at various stages.
No there not 'Big Boy'   just won the thing last year ???   Shamrocks are not looking past Ulster final!
I was going to post that as reigning All Ireland champions I would suggest that they've every right to be classified as one of the "big boys".

As for Ballycran, I don't think anyone in LG is taking it as a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 10, 2011, 09:47:02 PM
Didn't say they weren't a good team, but they are not 'great' in the way Portumna or Birr where
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2011, 10:01:42 PM
Wallis confirmed as Antrim manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2011, 11:02:19 PM
This should be interesting.

So Glenariff relegated then Is that the "old" Locky McCurdy or a son? Locky McCurdy is hardly still playing?

Portuma out and Clarinbridge drew. I know what you mean Max about Clarin(s)bridge. They are no doubt very good but won't strike the same fear as a Portuma or Ballyhale. Munster seems to be a minefield in the provincial series so who knows what will come out of there.

Loughgiel should have too much for anything in ulster but still think they're a bit short to challenge the southerners. I think in a few years time though when that team beef up a bit in certain areas they maybe could though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2011, 11:09:05 PM
He'd likely be busting if he were playing too...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on October 10, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
So is it Wallace or Wallis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 11, 2011, 07:01:26 AM
Jeez lads I think that's fierce harsh on Dinny, if he wanted the post (and the County were still prepared to pay the expenses) then he should have gotten. Our beat 3 championship years in the last 20 have all come under him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 11, 2011, 08:01:26 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2011, 07:01:26 AM
Jeez lads I think that's fierce harsh on Dinny, if he wanted the post (and the County were still prepared to pay the expenses) then he should have gotten. Our beat 3 championship years in the last 20 have all come under him

+1
Will get behind whoever (after an initial grumble) but just seems pretty harsh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 11, 2011, 08:36:36 AM
I'm sure Dinny will be very unhappy at this decision & you can't really blame him after the commitment he's put in for Antrim hurling. Thanks for your effort but f**k off. However Wallis is highly rated, trained the notoriously hard to please Cork team to a couple of All Ireland's(open to correction here) & was brought to Limerick last year. The players thought he was very good so that's very important. Big difference to training a team to managing them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 09:02:28 AM
Really disappointed by this change in management, nothing to do with Wallis, after the committment DC put in its some kick in the teeth for us to turn around and say thanks but no thanks.

There is a way to do things and I dont think this was right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2011, 09:17:11 AM
Dinny did wonders for our county team. If our county board shafted him then shame on them - again.

I'm not sure I know too much about this guy but best of luck to him.

I think we are at a level where Dinny did as best as could be done with the set if players - beating Dublin last year was huge and I thought the display we put in against Carlow showed as much character as I have seen in an Antrim jersey. Limerick this year the wheels came off when we had 14 men but we were in it until then and I think a lot of people forget that.

In my view Dinny Cahill should have had the job for as long as he wanted and the only way out for him should have been when he wanted out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clinker on October 11, 2011, 09:35:52 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimlad on October 11, 2011, 09:38:49 AM
Heard that Dinny said he only wanted one more year so and Wallace said he wanted 3 so that county opted with him. Not sure how correct it is, although it is what I heard  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 11, 2011, 09:39:07 AM
I had said a few weeks ago that JW was a cert, and that Dinny wouldn't be stuck for long. He has been linked to about half a dozen jobs in the last few weeks and there is no smoke without fire. I think if you asked all the players who they wanted and it would clearly have been Jerry. I am not convinced that Dinny actually wanted the job and he was at a couple of the championship games to show face. Dinny has been good alright, but should we be happy were we are at the minute or should we aim higher? With Wallis as manager they players believe they can go to the next level. It will be tough with the current players at his disposal but he has two years with the option of another.

I wouldn't even compare this to Jingo, and can't be bothered getting into that debate of his 'departure'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on October 11, 2011, 10:28:46 AM
The players need to be careful about talking about moving "to the next level", I remember a couple of them that had been selected to go public when Jingo was ousted saying Sambo and Woody would take them to the next level. I don't think they meant the level below them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2011, 10:45:55 AM
Colonel I don't think there is a "next level" in the players at the minute. Ideally we'd be in division 1. In my view Dinny has us achieving above ourselves. We have about 2 half decent forwards in the county and have got ourselves to the last 8 and last 12 this last 2 years.

We are top of the 2nd tier really - division 1 would help a lot but that aside on the games we have I don't see how we can seriously be improved.

If it's a longevity thing then I think that is fair enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 11, 2011, 11:07:55 AM
I take that on board surely Tommy, but from speaking to the players they think as well as Dinny done that Jerry Wallace (website and Irish news spelling!) can give them an extra 5-10%. I am in no way bashing Dinny here, but the people I would ask is the players who have worked with both.

I really don't think Dinny was wanting to stay either. We'll soon find out where he ends up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
Well hopefully. I think we got a bit unlucky last year and were better than the Limerick showing.

Best of luck to Dinny wherever he goes.

We've not been too hot at underage level this last few years so it would good to get some more emphasis on things like the u21s. The hammerings those boys have been taking this last few years won't be good for us. The u21 system is fundamentally flawed though which I think is a bigger issue than just Antrim. The league is where to get these boys in which is why I think it'd be good to at least try and push for division 1 and get the younger boys used to playing at that higher level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
In relation to the under 21's I have stated before that if they were training with the seniors at the start of the year and playing challenge matches while the Seniors are playing their league games, preferably at the same venue earlier time of the day.

This would give them a chance to develop as a TEAM and develop a system of play, instead of chasing players at the start of the competition. What is stopping this from happening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 11, 2011, 12:03:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 12:00:08 PM
In relation to the under 21's I have stated before that if they were training with the seniors at the start of the year and playing challenge matches while the Seniors are playing their league games, preferably at the same venue earlier time of the day.

This would give them a chance to develop as a TEAM and develop a system of play, instead of chasing players at the start of the competition. What is stopping this from happening?

Money!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 11, 2011, 12:23:34 PM
any word on a backroom team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 12:30:09 PM
Exactly Colonel, but that should not be the case, if they are traveling to the same venue and in a 55 seater bus then thay could manage that. Home games should be no problem.

Some planning and arranging the games can be hard work, but fcuk hard work is what it's all about. If you as a manager are not showing as much if not more commitment as the players then it's doomed from the start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2011, 12:23:34 PM
any word on a backroom team

Well I see Baker heading to Offaly, thats one down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 11, 2011, 01:16:21 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 11, 2011, 11:07:55 AM
I take that on board surely Tommy, but from speaking to the players they think as well as Dinny done that Jerry Wallace (website and Irish news spelling!) can give them an extra 5-10%. I am in no way bashing Dinny here, but the people I would ask is the players who have worked with both.

I really don't think Dinny was wanting to stay either. We'll soon find out where he ends up.

I think I am happy with the appointment of Wallis (the spelling in the Irish Examiner - would assume that they would get it right!). Certainly grateful to Dinny for all that he has done for us, but I think a new voice in charge would be no bad thing.

To be honest, have not been following all the guerning going on about the proposed new league structure, but if things remain as they were last year, it would be a real opportunity to give promotion a proper crack. Never could understand Dinny's (proclaimed) disdain for the league. I think a county like Antrim needs to take it seriously as we have real difficulty getting games otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 01:41:05 PM
I agree with Trout - players quoted in media need to look at themselves especially sinse S&W didnt take us anywhere. Maybe they should look at themselves rather that management. Thats said, some other good posts - is there really a next level in us?

I dont think we have the speed or strength to compete above 2nd tier hurling. Its just a fact and no shame in it.

As for the Under21's I do agree but ultimately we have gotta look at money (again fact is we have none) and lets not forget that clubs will not be too happy losing more players for more of the season!
Maybe some guys will develop more with senior club hurling than sitting in a bus around the country just to play some game time against another county u21 - and we dont even know if they would want the challenge game! After all if it is a viable idea maybe other counties would be doing it already?

I think this idea would be a disaster for clubs, a disaster for our leagues, and therefore a disaster for the overall standard of our hurling - but I am open to other views!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 01:53:47 PM
Can anyone remember when the leagues were of a poorer standard than they were this year? Div 1 for sure

There is something going wrong with the overall structure of the game, we have seriously reduced the season to two maybe three (going by st galls championship win) competitive games in the whole year. Surely we should be looking at addressing this in some shape or form, not saying I have the answers just making an observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2011, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 01:53:47 PM
Can anyone remember when the leagues were of a poorer standard than they were this year? Div 1 for sure

There is something going wrong with the overall structure of the game, we have seriously reduced the season to two maybe three (going by st galls championship win) competitive games in the whole year. Surely we should be looking at addressing this in some shape or form, not saying I have the answers just making an observation.

The quality of the playing population reflects the efforts invested in them by coaches and administration. Wouldn't say that the compeditiveness has dropped, but the number of out and out forward talent definately has.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 02:35:03 PM
So what we need to invest in our Coaches to bring their standard up?

Or we need more committment from them or a bit of both?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 02:37:56 PM
Fair points lads - I think we need to start at the bottom and build up.
What i mean is - there are some grand ideas about one panel of under21s travelling the country but in the same debate we acknowledge the drop in standards.
Therefore, i think improving the club scene should be the priority!
More games, more competitive games,more players, more able players - they are all connected!
Then we can talk about county teams raising their level - once it has been done at clubs. They will mirror each other.
We can put focus back on club scene whilst maintaining the tier 2 status we have anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 01:41:05 PM
I agree with Trout - players quoted in media need to look at themselves especially sinse S&W didnt take us anywhere. Maybe they should look at themselves rather that management. Thats said, some other good posts - is there really a next level in us?

I dont think we have the speed or strength to compete above 2nd tier hurling. Its just a fact and no shame in it.

As for the Under21's I do agree but ultimately we have gotta look at money (again fact is we have none) and lets not forget that clubs will not be too happy losing more players for more of the season!
Maybe some guys will develop more with senior club hurling than sitting in a bus around the country just to play some game time against another county u21 - and we dont even know if they would want the challenge game! After all if it is a viable idea maybe other counties would be doing it already?

I think this idea would be a disaster for clubs, a disaster for our leagues, and therefore a disaster for the overall standard of our hurling - but I am open to other views!

So keep it as it is? A get together a week before the games starts!! Players who have no idea who they are playing with or know their style? As you are aware, the County Hurling (NHL) Leagues are usually finished before (well Antrim usually are) the club scene starts, if you have a few players on that team then they are getting quality training for both county and clubs.

Again if this is down to money why enter a team at all at this level? Why bother with a minor team also?

Teams down South do take the under 21 competition seriously, they play college teams and the bigger teams play the div 2 senior teams that are close by, in challenge games. But sure lets get embarrassed every year ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 01:41:05 PM
I agree with Trout - players quoted in media need to look at themselves especially sinse S&W didnt take us anywhere. Maybe they should look at themselves rather that management. Thats said, some other good posts - is there really a next level in us?

I dont think we have the speed or strength to compete above 2nd tier hurling. Its just a fact and no shame in it.

As for the Under21's I do agree but ultimately we have gotta look at money (again fact is we have none) and lets not forget that clubs will not be too happy losing more players for more of the season!
Maybe some guys will develop more with senior club hurling than sitting in a bus around the country just to play some game time against another county u21 - and we dont even know if they would want the challenge game! After all if it is a viable idea maybe other counties would be doing it already?

I think this idea would be a disaster for clubs, a disaster for our leagues, and therefore a disaster for the overall standard of our hurling - but I am open to other views!

So keep it as it is? A get together a week before the games starts!! Players who have no idea who they are playing with or know their style? As you are aware, the County Hurling (NHL) Leagues are usually finished before (well Antrim usually are) the club scene starts, if you have a few players on that team then they are getting quality training for both county and clubs.

Again if this is down to money why enter a team at all at this level? Why bother with a minor team also?

Teams down South do take the under 21 competition seriously, they play college teams and the bigger teams play the div 2 senior teams that are close by, in challenge games. But sure lets get embarrassed every year ::)

I am not professing to have all the answers but lets face it - we are not going to have the same group of 20-30 U21s available to run round the country playing matches all year - schools, universities, work, and especially clubs wont allow it! Also, this group is never going to have alot of ins and outs and we can hardly justify a year of training matches and travelling for one match a year! Face it, we win Ulster anyway.

How would our club hurling/football leagues be affected if this group was away as often as it is already affected by the senior panel - its a great idea to become competitive but not at the expense of the club set up. It would be like pulling the rug from under us - no foundations for the sake of the county panel.

I know what other counties can do - but fact is we are not them! We dont have the challenge games on our doorstep nor the resources.

As I said I dont know the answers but maybe a series of games mixed with seniors/minor panels is a less expensive and more practical option and one which causes less disruption to the club leagues. As for pulling out? I really dont think thats out of the question if need be! After all its a mis-mash age group anyway and I seem to remember Crok Park wanted it dissolved until the Southern boys said no - because its a great developer for them - but not us! Maybe if we were In Leinster at this grade also it might help development.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 03:24:08 PM
Lads, the U21 is so far down the bottom of the list of our problems that I dont even think that it registers. Any of the players that are good enough to make it to senior are already in the squad by the time they are 21.

We need to look down the line and look at our coaching structures within individual clubs and then from the clubs into the development squads.

Is this not why we have full time paid development staff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 03:35:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 03:24:08 PM
Lads, the U21 is so far down the bottom of the list of our problems that I dont even think that it registers. Any of the players that are good enough to make it to senior are already in the squad by the time they are 21.
We need to look down the line and look at our coaching structures within individual clubs and then from the clubs into the development squads.

Is this not why we have full time paid development staff?

and that's the problem sometimes, there are kids that are on the panel/team and can't even hold down a regular place on their own team!!

The under 21 is the stepping stone to senior, make it competitive. What else have we to lose. I would say there are 25 quality kids coming through the teams in Antrim. It's about time we worked on these lads and get them to commit to hurling and develop them into committed senior hurlers in a few years time.

Problem is that we lose too many of these lads cause they don't seem to be bother!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
How ever if we had the right structures and systems in place around the 25 talented hurlers then maybe we wouldnt lose so many of them and we would have a conveyor belt coming trhough.

Thats my point about the staff, its is their responsibility to put these structures around the players to ensure than we get the best out of them and that they see the county set up as something valuable and worthwhile to be involved with.

(I take on board your point MR2 about the u21 but I just meant in the grand scheme IMO its maybe not top priority)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2011, 04:17:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2011, 02:35:03 PM
So what we need to invest in our Coaches to bring their standard up?

Or we need more committment from them or a bit of both?

The numbers of interested ones is the biggest problem IMO, but yes those that are there need to keep improving but sometimes you need the correct number of mentors to be about the place for training sessions to run well and progress to be made. Even the best coaches will struggle if left to look after teams on their own. The sheer number of ex hurlers who put nothing back in is a big issue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 11, 2011, 04:55:01 PM
On the subject of U-21s somebody posted these 2 comments on the county board......


QuoteTo add my tuppence worth to the U21 hurling discussion- would there not be students (who may or may not be hurlers) doing sports studies at University etc who could do the equivalent of a placement and certaintly gain valuable experience of preparing/managing and putting together 'a squad' of U21 players? This would be real life experience - putting theory into practice. If games were only played 'at home' in Antrim then there should be a minimal resource issue and if there is a resource requirement it shouldn't be beyond them to raise finance through 'good PR/ marketing'. I realise that this would have to be agreed, approved, etc by County etc- to have insurance etc covered. Maybe this has been done, tried before but I feel it would be good for everyone and especially clubs to have their better young hurlers exposed to hurling during the closed season.

and

QuoteI'm suggesting 'sports students' involvement solely to preparation/ trial games/ working up a potential squad of U21 hurlers for participation in next year's competition. If the time frame was Nov to Easter then it shouldn't interfere with clubs. They could play challenge games against Universities, club teams still in the All -Ireland series- Intermediate, Junior or senior(?)- all 'at home'in Antrim. It might create a dynamic and entice credible young people studying sport to share and gain experience. It would not cut across formal coaching/ management as determined by County. just a thought

Not a bad idea.  What do youse think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 11, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
NAG yo got it right. there is something seriously wrong. sorry to be the prophet of doom but brace yourselves for more of the same to come. i said it b4 & this latest appointment only cements my belief. when you bring in big name coaches from the south, their interest publicly is the betterment of antrim hurling. translated that means the betterment of the antrim COUNTY team. nothing else. these lads are obviously getting serious reimbursment for their input. is anyone seriously going to say that they will come up here to get at the root causes of our decline. ie club structures club leagues?? if you do you are kidding yourselves. jerry will be no different to dinny in that his sole objective will be to make the county team perform. to do that he will create a club like structure with the county panel. what will this mean for the clubs? losing your best hurlers for the best part of 7months. not allowed to train & play for their clubs which inturn forces the clubs to play reserve & sometimes 3rd tier player in the senior league which in turn lowers the quality of the league which in turn lowers the skill levels of the players which in turn leaves the pool of players a county manager gets to pick from very small. these lads come for a relatively short period of time & try to get the best of the county panel. who picks up the pieces of trying to coach good hurling at grass roots? yip the clubs, but there is only so far you can bring a group of committed club hurlers without the benefit of training & playing regulary with & against the best hurlers from all the clubs in antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 05:02:28 PM
But why are these ex hurlers walking away? Having families, drained, not interested or feel they aren't asked? Would the paid coaches be an issue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 11, 2011, 05:34:12 PM
Either have an u21 national hurling league or do away with it altogther.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on October 11, 2011, 05:39:16 PM
I would be very dubious about the standard of some of the salaried development staff, seems to be some of those posts are filled because of who you know. Fellas like Woody seem to be doing a very good job but others don't seem to have much of a notion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
Really can't agree more with auld stock!

To be honest mr2 I think u look at u21 as being kids developing - that's not the case anymore. Look at the age profile of senior teams it is younger nowadays. If someone walks away from the game at u21 I hardly think they were gonna make a high standard - certainly not a big enough difference to justify the time and resources u suggest. Especially given it's effects to the club scene!


I really fear for our club scene and think it is the root cause of county standard. Think of it - from loughiel in 81 to Rossa in 89 then the great Dall & Dunloy teams of the 90s and this is when we we're most competitive. The drop in our club scene is mirrored and county. If we address this our fortunes improve and we don't lose players as mr2 suggests.

I really hope we don't go down the line of sacrificing our club scene for the 24/30 involved with county - it just doesn't work at any level!

And as for the quality of our paid coaches - don't make me laugh. Cronyism has allowed us to lag way behind the other countys underage development structures. These coaches pick up a cheque that just covers their tea & biscuits budget!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
I'll not deny that things start at under-age structures, it was that we were putting no effort into the under 21's for a serious long time. The tankings we have had were really obvious unfortunately. All down to preparation I'm afraid or lack of it.

Cushendall have been really unlucky over the years and Dunloy came up against a Birr team who were at their peak also.

The standard in Munster club hurling has dropped also and I think that if Loughgiel meet Munster opposition in Feb then they may have a chance to reach Croke.

If we concentrate on club hurling what will that bring us? We have played 18 games and for most parts I believe all the players have been available for the clubs, I stand corrected, so what has been the problem with development of club hurling lately? In my view the only clubs that have been hampered are the dual clubs, because when the county footballers are playing (league/challenge) then they can't hurl for their club!!

During the early part of the season we couldn't have players playing or maybe they played a game the day before and come back shattered or injured.

Lets not knock all the paid coaches, I know some of them and they are good lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 11, 2011, 10:20:57 PM
Must agree. it should be all about the clubs. Players must be allowed to play with there clubs. Week in week out. Get the league back to something worth winning.  If this happens then our county team will benifit from this. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 12, 2011, 01:41:31 PM
Bit of a change of thinking on the NHL games coming?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
I think it's the Galway champions this time around MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 13, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
I think it's the Galway champions this time around MR2.

It's the Munster champions as far as I can remember -:

2011 Loughiel lost to O'Loughlin Gaels
2010 Dunloy lost to Portumna
2009 Cushendall lost to De La Salle

I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 13, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
Ironic or what!!!!

An extract from the county website:

Name : Brian12 October 2011There is a lot of useful information conveyed and genuine interest generated through effective management of this website.
Would it be possible for someone 'knowledgeable' about Jerry Wallis to post a profile etc.
He is obviously a man of considerable pedigree, standing, ambition and it would be good to have thoughtful exposure to what no doubt is a credible CV in GAA and other fields.
Many thanks

He is from Midleton and was the trainer of the Cork team alongside Donal O'Grady when they achieved All Ireland success. He has been involved with training his own club and also this county 2 years ago with Dinny Cahill. Then he went with Donal O'Grady to Limerick last year. "That's all we know".

So thats all they know and yet the ousted Dinny and interviewed this guy Wallis!!!  Fecking hell!  Never ceased to be amazed by the county godfathers!  :-[ ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2011, 02:01:13 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 13, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
Ironic or what!!!!

An extract from the county website:

Name : Brian12 October 2011There is a lot of useful information conveyed and genuine interest generated through effective management of this website.
Would it be possible for someone 'knowledgeable' about Jerry Wallis to post a profile etc.
He is obviously a man of considerable pedigree, standing, ambition and it would be good to have thoughtful exposure to what no doubt is a credible CV in GAA and other fields.
Many thanks

He is from Midleton and was the trainer of the Cork team alongside Donal O'Grady when they achieved All Ireland success. He has been involved with training his own club and also this county 2 years ago with Dinny Cahill. Then he went with Donal O'Grady to Limerick last year. "That's all we know".

So thats all they know and yet the ousted Dinny and interviewed this guy Wallis!!!  Fecking hell!  Never ceased to be amazed by the county godfathers!  :-[ ::)

In all fairness the guestbook Mod may not have been on the interview panel but would nevertheless never miss a chance for a curt backhander on such a question as this.
Have met Wallace a few times and would have no doubt on his credentials and comes across as a decent skin. I wonder what it the vote hinged on though, any word?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2011, 02:33:45 PM
Any truth to the rumour that DC was asked to withdraw from the race prior to the coounty meeting?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 13, 2011, 05:31:21 PM
Wel the man who has the job is the lad the players wanted. Dinnys out so move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 13, 2011, 05:53:40 PM
sorry milltown row but you are way off the mark by saying only dual clubs affected. best example to date was the senior feis final this year. dinny turned it into an absolute farce. he "rested" his first choice team the day before against armagh in the ulster final. then those second choice players were told that even though they would not feature the following week against limerick in the c'ship that under no circumstances were they to play in the feis final. he even went as far as threatened to quit if any of the county players played with their clubs in that feis final. that is a fact. what was the result? well c'dall got mullered by 21pts by dunloy as we had to field several minors & a couple of reserves who would not normally feature. how did this help the county? he rested his first choice team for the armagh game so that when the limerick game came along the majority of his starting 15 had played no competitive hurling for close on three weeks, limerick duly obliged & mullered them. the second choice team that played armagh? well if you ask me they dug dinny out of an awkward situation by winning a game he never really wanted to play & he ordered them not to play for their clubs. now thats only one instance about c'dall. i bet any money the same story was replicated in loughguile, dunloy, b'castle many times this year. heres one as well. it must be soul destroying for teams like creggan & glenarm to have to take the field without the best players they have produced in years (mc cann, hamill)for me county boss has too much clout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 13, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
Mr2 and auld stock you both have points. Clubs with county players lose their services and dual clubs suffer dually! Get club hurling lifted and county will follow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2011, 06:33:22 PM
Auldstock. You were beat by Dunloy who were in the same situation as yourselves, missing county players, pretty even keel for me that game.  We provide the most county players to the county. That is football and hurling!

It has a bigger drain on us were winning the league is concerned, if losing  the Feis cup to a team equally hampered has made it the same, then i misunderstood how important that north Antrim cup is.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 13, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
Yeah. Cdalls 6 to dunloys 2,   pretty even ???   IMO club hurling has went back since dinnys 2nd spell.   Best year county had in past 4/5 years was getting to 1/4 final against cork.  And by all accounts it was Jerry who put in all the work with the lads that year.  Change is good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 13, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
not that it matters significantly but dunloy had 4 on the county panel Shorty, Kev Molloy, Kev McKeague and Paddy Doc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
Are you sure?

Look regardless of who is missing for games, Dunloy beat Cushendall and were missing their best players as were the dall. When your club misses players all year then come back to me  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2011, 10:29:02 PM
You're never one to let parochialism get in the way of an objective argument MR ;)

Your footballers are a league above everyone else. It's not really a comparable situation and the feis cup would mean a bit more than the beringer cup :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 13, 2011, 10:36:29 PM
Lads lads - missing the point! You are debating over who has had most players missing - fact is no team should have any missing! Full sides out = competitive games = strong club scene = stronger prep for county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
That is a reserve competition, couldn't tell you were mums medal is FFS!!

I hope we get a good run with this new manager, players need to buy into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 13, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
That is a reserve competition, couldn't tell you were mums medal is FFS!!

I hope we get a good run with this new manager, players need to buy into it.
the players will and have. Thats why i cant see the fuss about dinny. The players love jerry. Nothing but good things to say about him.   Time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 13, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2011, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 13, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2011, 10:40:47 PM
That is a reserve competition, couldn't tell you were mums medal is FFS!!

I hope we get a good run with this new manager, players need to buy into it.
the players will and have. That's why i cant see the fuss about Dinny. The players love Jerry. Nothing but good things to say about him.   Time will tell
The players appeared to "love" S&W and they couldn't have made a bigger cnut of things.
LOL,  agreed!!! :D  This will be different,  This is the right man for job, ffs give him a chance people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 14, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Good luck to Donncha Mac Cathail.   :o Lets hope he is treated better by other counties in Ireland!

The man showed intense dedication and perserverance, yet we ditch the man!  Wallis must be somewhat cheaper!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 14, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Good luck to Donncha Mac Cathail.   :o Lets hope he is treated better by other counties in Ireland!

The man showed intense dedication and perserverance, yet we ditch the man!  Wallis must be somewhat cheaper!!!!!  ;)
Lets hope he gets treated better?????   Lets hope are u21s gets treated better!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 14, 2011, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 14, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Good luck to Donncha Mac Cathail.   :o Lets hope he is treated better by other counties in Ireland!

The man showed intense dedication and perserverance, yet we ditch the man!  Wallis must be somewhat cheaper!!!!!  ;)
Lets hope he gets treated better?????   Lets hope are u21s gets treated better!!!!!!!
Fair point indeed SG!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 14, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 14, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Good luck to Donncha Mac Cathail.   :o Lets hope he is treated better by other counties in Ireland!

The man showed intense dedication and perserverance, yet we ditch the man!  Wallis must be somewhat cheaper!!!!!  ;)
Lets hope he gets treated better?????   Lets hope are u21s gets treated better!!!!!!!

Is Jerry Wallis/Wallace taking control of the U21s or leaving it to Bubble?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 14, 2011, 09:18:40 PM
Micky Johnson taking 21s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 14, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
Has he left Armagh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 15, 2011, 12:26:20 PM
Apparently so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 03:54:28 PM
It's looking like the senior reserve championship coming our way as well.

Half time:

LG 2-07 Dunloy 0-02

*edit

FT:

LG 3-14 Dunloy 0-03

Ouch!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 15, 2011, 06:42:21 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May

agree with that. They done that in Derry a couple of seasons ago, ran the RFC off on 4 successive friday nights in May/June from 1st round to final. Was very successful. Not sure why the didnt do i this year. Semis were in midweek just past
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May
We're Dunloy not training up to 3 or 4 weeks ago? Hell, I heard they went to Tipperary to train, even with a state of the art facility on their doorstep. It's a sad state of affairs if you had to bring in retired players Max.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May
We're Dunloy not training up to 3 or 4 weeks ago? Hell, I heard they went to Tipperary to train, even with a state of the art facility on their doorstep. It's a sad state of affairs if you had to bring in retired players Max.

And you wonder why other clubs think the worst of you?

Enjoy the wins while you can SIE cause you're only at the summit for a while, I'd be wile impressed if yous do well in the All Ireland series.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May
We're Dunloy not training up to 3 or 4 weeks ago? Hell, I heard they went to Tipperary to train, even with a state of the art facility on their doorstep. It's a sad state of affairs if you had to bring in retired players Max.

And you wonder why other clubs think the worst of you?

Enjoy the wins while you can SIE cause you're only at the summit for a while, I'd be wile impressed if yous do well in the All Ireland series.
I don't wonder at all, I already know.  ;)

For god sake mr2, I was winding him up. Calm down. We'd have got it in the neck if it was the other way around. No harm done. We have what you'd call a "special" relationship with Dunloy.  :)

And ditto for your club, if you get out of Ulster that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 15, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 15, 2011, 12:26:20 PM
Apparently so
He was kicked out for stealing hurling balls for the Johnnies!  Well, thats what big Joby has said anyway! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 08:10:25 PM
Michael is a good lad, bit of a header when managing a team but is mad for hurling and would be a great addition to the Antrim set up. Plenty of knowledge and can generate plenty of interest in this team.



Cue hardstation  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 01:15:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 08:10:25 PM
Michael is a good lad, bit of a header when managing a team but is mad for hurling and would be a great addition to the Antrim set up. Plenty of knowledge and can generate plenty of interest in this team.



Cue hardstation  ;D
I've been doing some research on the GAA in West Belfast/Andytown/Falls. And relating to the evidence I've found, St. Galls must have the biggest parish in Belfast, if not Ulster. Certainly the most widespread.
Would this be true MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on October 16, 2011, 08:42:13 AM
The parish only exists on paper.  St Galls would take very little kids from their surrounding 'parish'.  In fact very few clubs would.  There are only a very small number of the closest thing to parish clubs in Belfast.  O'Donnells would be one, St Pauls might be regarded as one and Gort na mona would be one.  The others would be known as family clubs where a large part of their membership and recruitment would be gotten from members and their families (normally spread from Lisburn to Glengormely).  Many of these clubs do attract people who aren't associated with their clubs from reputation.  For example, parents living in Lagmore (a long way from the Parish of St John's - where St Galls are based) might send their kids to St Galls because they are always in the local paper winning championships and for no other reason instead of sending their kids to their local club.

So the parish idea has nothing to do with numbers in Belfast and probably goes a little way to explain the multi-transfers that take place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 09:27:01 AM
Loughgiel would be the biggest parish, we know this already! As for ourselves our real parish would have been the Clonard area of the Springfield rd, your research would have told you that ::

But as for our pool of players or membership it started at St Galls school, Hence the name, from there it really then became a family club, as 4father has said, I'd say in Belfast there are only two three clubs which can justify being called a parish club, Ardoyne, Gort Na Mona, St Enda 's and maybe Pearse's.

St Pauls wouldn't be a parish club, St Paul's parish is from the Springfield rd to Beechmount leisure centre.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 16, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
No shame in having to bring a couple of players back, you have to remember very few clubs have the base of players available as Loughgiel, fact is dunloy like most clubs are able to field 2 teams, but when the second team is decimated by playing in the seniors it makes it very difficult to get full numbers for the seconds.

Loughgiel have no Gaelic, no soccer and a large catchment area (together with committed volunteers), in other clubs when players realise they aren't going to be seniors, or don't have the desire to be, they inevitably move on to something they will get to play something else.

Credit the men who came in to help out

Dunloy can be bad losers, but Loughgiel are bad winners




Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2011, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2011, 06:38:38 PM
A team full of players that have been training flat out for the last few months beat a team that haven't trained at all and had to bring a couple of men back from retirement just to fulfill the fixture!

It's horrible losing to Loughgiel in any game, but surely the result of this one was always likely. Don't know why they ruin this competition by playing it at this time of year, a run out as a sub in championship and you're gone, get it played off in May
We're Dunloy not training up to 3 or 4 weeks ago? Hell, I heard they went to Tipperary to train, even with a state of the art facility on their doorstep. It's a sad state of affairs if you had to bring in retired players Max.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
SIE I also know why every other club thinks the worst of yous. It's not great to be a bad loser(not saying loughiel are), but its terrible to be a bad winner. As expected I witnessed mouthing from your supporters directly after the county final. If yous were gracious in defeat and winning, then people might respect you a little more. Your team aren't as bad for it, mainly your supporters.

Last year, when yous won the title for first time, I didnt mind as much because your players have put in alot of effort and kept coming back year after year. i wouldnt have begrudged them a medal. However this year was a different story. absolutely devastated and to be taunted has not done your club any favours in my eyes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 16, 2011, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
SIE I also know why every other club thinks the worst of yous. It's not great to be a bad loser(not saying loughiel are), but its terrible to be a bad winner. As expected I witnessed mouthing from your supporters directly after the county final. If yous were gracious in defeat and winning, then people might respect you a little more. Your team aren't as bad for it, mainly your supporters.

Last year, when yous won the title for first time, I didnt mind as much because your players have put in alot of effort and kept coming back year after year. i wouldnt have begrudged them a medal. However this year was a different story. absolutely devastated and to be taunted has not done your club any favours in my eyes.

You would obviously condemn the mouthing from a section of Cushendall supporters about the marital status of Loughgiel players during the county final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 16, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 16, 2011, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
SIE I also know why every other club thinks the worst of yous. It's not great to be a bad loser(not saying loughiel are), but its terrible to be a bad winner. As expected I witnessed mouthing from your supporters directly after the county final. If yous were gracious in defeat and winning, then people might respect you a little more. Your team aren't as bad for it, mainly your supporters.

Last year, when yous won the title for first time, I didnt mind as much because your players have put in alot of effort and kept coming back year after year. i wouldnt have begrudged them a medal. However this year was a different story. absolutely devastated and to be taunted has not done your club any favours in my eyes.

You would obviously condemn the mouthing from a section of Cushendall supporters about the marital status of Loughgiel players during the county final?
Sure all clubs player's and supporters have their mouth pieces, my own club included!

I sense a note of sour grapes on your part lad! :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 02:33:02 PM
I heard St Galls catchment area stretches to Belleek!  :)

Agh now lads, I wasn't being serious. Some people need to loosen up a bit.

Quote from: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
SIE I also know why every other club thinks the worst of yous. It's not great to be a bad loser(not saying loughiel are), but its terrible to be a bad winner. As expected I witnessed mouthing from your supporters directly after the county final. If yous were gracious in defeat and winning, then people might respect you a little more. Your team aren't as bad for it, mainly your supporters.

Last year, when yous won the title for first time, I didnt mind as much because your players have put in alot of effort and kept coming back year after year. i wouldnt have begrudged them a medal. However this year was a different story. absolutely devastated and to be taunted has not done your club any favours in my eyes. 
Again this is a case of sweeping generalisation, and a very poor retort.

There were a few of your team and club mates over the night of the championship final, they were made more than welcome. You'd be wiser and better suited sorting out what is said by your management team along the sideline to opposing teams' management and supporters before you go casting stones!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 16, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
Sie you make comments every week and when taken to task on them you say you weren't being serious however you'd need to be a mindreader to know if you were being serious or not. At least give some hint
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Minder, comments like that would make my club look bad. personal attacks def shouldnt be part of what the GAA are about.As far as im concerned about the management, our management should have had enough wit not to retaliate with any comments or actions. im sure that would be sorted out in private.

My comments were regarding being bad winners. That is all (not their team, more their supporters) After training all year to get beat, it's the last thing you need to hear before you have left the grounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 16, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
Sie you make comments every week and when taken to task on them you say you weren't being serious however you'd need to be a mindreader to know if you were being serious or not. At least give some hint
I'll try to be a better poster for you colonel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Minder, comments like that would make my club look bad. personal attacks def shouldnt be part of what the GAA are about.As far as im concerned about the management, our management should have had enough wit not to retaliate with any comments or actions. im sure that would be sorted out in private.

My comments were regarding being bad winners. That is all (not their team, more their supporters) After training all year to get beat, it's the last thing you need to hear before you have left the grounds.
I note you posted "retaliate". I heard it was mainly one way to begin with, and not from our side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 04:04:57 PM
well then someone is telling porkies.....either way it shouldnt be happening. i enjoy winning and sitting all winter knowing you beat every team that you came up against when it counted, but i definitely wouldnt be out making those other teams feel worse than they already do. Anyway the only reason I brought it up was because of your comment about why you thought alot of other clubs didnt have a favourable opinion of your club. I was just talking about my perosnal experience of why I would be of that opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 04:04:57 PM
well then someone is telling porkies.....either way it shouldnt be happening. i enjoy winning and sitting all winter knowing you beat every team that you came up against when it counted, but i definitely wouldnt be out making those other teams feel worse than they already do. Anyway the only reason I brought it up was because of your comment about why you thought alot of other clubs didnt have a favourable opinion of your club. I was just talking about my perosnal experience of why I would be of that opinion.
If that's the case then I can only apologise for whatever moron made those comments to you. It's certainly not indicative of the vast majority of Loughgiel supporters who, to be frank, were not in the slightest bit interested in how you and your team mates felt. We were more interested in our own lads and the celebrations to follow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on October 16, 2011, 05:14:33 PM
SIE fair enough, its not your place to apologise. you didnt say it. No point worrying about it.

Enjoy your winter over there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)
I wouldn't have minded getting them in the final.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)
I wouldn't have minded getting them in the final.   ;)

Have yous improved that much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)
I wouldn't have minded getting them in the final.   ;)

Have yous improved that much?
We all have bad days, that was one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 16, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)

handy?

Kilkenny semi finals

James Stephens  3-16 2-10 St Martin's 
Ballyhale Shamrocks  2-18 3-12 O`Loughlin Gaels 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 16, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)

handy?

Kilkenny semi finals

James Stephens  3-16 2-10 St Martin's 
Ballyhale Shamrocks  2-18 3-12 O`Loughlin Gaels

I'm taking the piss, SIE thinks that they had a bad day, I was at the match and didn't see that, seen Loughlin Gaels were not that great a team (at that level) and based on that backed Clarinbridge in the final.

But I'm glad Loughgiel will put that behind this year after last years experience and improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 16, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 05:08:08 PM
Coolderry are offaly champions, beat Birr in the final. Ballygunner Waterford champions.

Loughlin Gaels beat handy last week also, it's a good thing you're not playing them this year ;)

handy?

Kilkenny semi finals

James Stephens  3-16 2-10 St Martin's 
Ballyhale Shamrocks  2-18 3-12 O`Loughlin Gaels

I'm taking the piss, SIE thinks that they had a bad day, I was at the match and didn't see that, seen Loughlin Gaels were not that great a team (at that level) and based on that backed Clarinbridge in the final.

But I'm glad Loughgiel will put that behind this year after last years experience and improve.
I see yous have Cross in the Ulster football championship. They fairly hammered the nab. 2-22 to 0-03. How do you think you will get on in that match? I might venture up to Casement for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
We'll get hammered by the current All Ireland champions, thats the standard we are up against ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:26:15 PM
We'll get hammered by the current All Ireland champions, thats the standard we are up against ;)
Not worth heading up to then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
Be on TV that Saturday night, TG4 save the diesel

But I'll head down to your game again, always follow the Antrim club hurling teams when they venture across the border!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2011, 11:00:42 PM
We're not there yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 17, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
Ruairi, you've obviously forgotten the time your supporters ran across Casement with the banner 'Ha Ha, 6 in a Row' in front of our players who had just lost, again?  And Max I'm sure you didn't notice a section of your supporters taunting and jeering (players wives included) in front of the stand when we lost in the 2003 final !

My point is, we all have ar**holes of supporters.  Perhaps we have more than others  :-[ but then we also have more good, honest, respectful supporters  :).

We've been through this whole debate before.  Lets move on, again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 17, 2011, 10:46:51 AM
Yeah guys even the Shamrocks on this board have admitted their problems with supporters - lets move on!

I dont give Ballycran a hope, so it looks like Ballyhale may be the stand out favs for the All-Ireland - Loughuile must fancy their chance of losing to them in the final tho!! Seems to be a 'weak' year in Munster if such a thing exists.

Long way off for now tho - its a long winter and soccer just doesnt cut it for me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 17, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
At while I have a minute - are the Oisins taking it on the chin to be relegated by points difference? One wonders if there is a mysterious by-law somewhere on this - or more importantly if there is not a law covering it! Perhaps the Dunloy game is not such a funny episode now?
What about cut-off dates does anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 17, 2011, 11:08:10 AM
I would have thought that if they didnt manufacture the 2 points out of the Dunloy game (lets not go there again) that they would have lost anyway and then there would have been no worries either way about the points system.

I thought the cut off date was before championship, but this only seemed to matter to a few clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
We were relegated by scores against while level on points with St Johns. What's the problem here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
I think the official cut off is 23rd October, but I'd imagine there was special dispensation granted to Loughgiel in respect of the Ulster final this weekend. I'd expect the outstanding game against Cushendall to be played probably on Sunday week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 17, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 17, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
Ruairi, you've obviously forgotten the time your supporters ran across Casement with the banner 'Ha Ha, 6 in a Row' in front of our players who had just lost, again?  And Max I'm sure you didn't notice a section of your supporters taunting and jeering (players wives included) in front of the stand when we lost in the 2003 final !

My point is, we all have ar**holes of supporters.  Perhaps we have more than others  :-[ but then we also have more good, honest, respectful supporters  :).

We've been through this whole debate before.  Lets move on, again.

I agree the debate should be put to bed but was that banner not Dunloy supporters work as I am quite sure I know who the fella from Dunloy was?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 17, 2011, 12:17:07 PM
SIE I dont think this needs to be dragged up again and again, think you'll find every club has them and they can all use excuses for their over the top behaviour.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2011, 12:20:19 PM
I didn't bring it up. Perhaps you should read through the last few pages again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 17, 2011, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
I think the official cut off is 23rd October, but I'd imagine there was special dispensation granted to Loughgiel in respect of the Ulster final this weekend. I'd expect the outstanding game against Cushendall to be played probably on Sunday week.

game fixed for the 30th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 17, 2011, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 17, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 17, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
Ruairi, you've obviously forgotten the time your supporters ran across Casement with the banner 'Ha Ha, 6 in a Row' in front of our players who had just lost, again?  And Max I'm sure you didn't notice a section of your supporters taunting and jeering (players wives included) in front of the stand when we lost in the 2003 final !

My point is, we all have ar**holes of supporters.  Perhaps we have more than others  :-[ but then we also have more good, honest, respectful supporters  :).

We've been through this whole debate before.  Lets move on, again.

I agree the debate should be put to bed but was that banner not Dunloy supporters work as I am quite sure I know who the fella from Dunloy was?

It was Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 17, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
it was indeed, a case of winning badly.

What about the Ulster League Final, is it ever going to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2011, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 17, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
it was indeed, a case of winning badly.

What about the Ulster League Final, is it ever going to be played?
Was it not played at the end of October last year? So, maybe it'll be the week after the Cushendall game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 17, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 17, 2011, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
I think the official cut off is 23rd October, but I'd imagine there was special dispensation granted to Loughgiel in respect of the Ulster final this weekend. I'd expect the outstanding game against Cushendall to be played probably on Sunday week.

game fixed for the 30th

From the Antrim website
They cannot be serious !
Cushendall  - - Loughgiel  Cushendall 30/10/2011 11:00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 17, 2011, 07:01:41 PM
Again from the Antrim website

Division 1A           Kilkenny, Dublin, Waterford, Tipperary, Galway, Cork

Division 1B           Wexford,  Offaly, Limerick, Clare, Laois, Antrim

Six teams in each Division
Five Rounds in each Division

Top Two Teams in Division 1B contest Division 1B Final. Winners promoted.
Bottom two teams in each Division contest relegation play off and the losing team is relegated.

Division 1 Semi-Finals

Top Team Division 1A       v       Winner of Division 1B Final
Second Team Divison 1A  v       Third team Division 1A


We could struggle here......... Limerick & Clare & Wexford & Offaly are big challenges.  Laois are always tough and now with Paudie Butler & Teddy McCarthy involved   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2011, 09:50:55 AM
Yes I agree - this could end up in a play-off between ourselves and Laois for relegation (venue could be decisive).
Maybe this puts in context our earlier discussion about "moving to the next level" - lets hope the next level is not a lesser one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 18, 2011, 09:59:31 AM
if we train well, and take the league serious theres no reason why we couldn't be capable of winning home games against any of those counties and also laois home or away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
We always seem to get hammered by Limerick but I think we can win games against a lot of the other teams at home as Colonel says. We hammered Wexford the other year at home and Offaly in the league are beatable too. Clare only beat us by a point last year.

The championship may be a different matter but if we put a bit into the league no reason why we can't mix it up with some of these teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2011, 11:52:27 AM
Even for the sheer fact of getting people out to watch the games if we are putting maximum effort into the league then it creates a better atmosphere aronud the place and more people wanting to travel to attend the games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 18, 2011, 03:56:21 PM
Would love it if we actually gave the league a real go.

Laois is always a toss up.

Clare have beaten us by a point in each of the last two years.

We have beaten Wexford at home on the last two occasions.

We are usually there or there abouts against Offaly.

Limerick always seem to thump us, mind you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
NHL fixtures are out...Antrim are home to Wexford, away to Clare & Offaly, then home to Laois & Limerick...check hoganstand for dates

Good to get 3 home matches..always tight v Laois but should win at home & could beat Wexford. Wallis has said he will take the league seriously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 20, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
Score for Ulster final on Sunday........Shamrocks ..2-10.......Ballycran..1-8 ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2011, 05:44:15 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 20, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
Score for Ulster final on Sunday........Shamrocks ..2-10.......Ballycran..1-8 ??
I think we'd settle for that!   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 20, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
Be alot more in it than that, Ballycran have seriously regressed as last two years, think 10 points plus weather permiting an open game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Yeah 15 point win for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 20, 2011, 06:27:27 PM
Congratulations to Aaron Graffin,Cormac Donnelly and Mickey Armstong who will represent Ireland in the Shinty this Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team

Who are they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 20, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team

Who are they?
Three boys that hopefully wont be near it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 20, 2011, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team

Who are they?

I would hope its a piss take, and am sure it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team

Wind up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 21, 2011, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill
Dream Team

What clubs are they from then since no-one has any other info?

Wind up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 21, 2011, 10:15:28 AM
on jerry wallis new back up team, sorry i know leo heatley was a referee, is this the same guy, ARE the other 2 like cork men or anything to waterford hartley.  Glad to hear he is taking league seriously.  one of my 2 or 3 critcisms of Dinny.  One of my mates knows a guy from St Johns who said Dinny liked to party.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 21, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Yeah 15 point win for me

I hope you're right MR2 but I cant see it.  I think it'll be a close one.  Have you got any odds other than an outright win for each side?  I think it's 1/5 and 5/1.  I'd be interested to see what Ballycran were +5 !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2011, 10:23:28 AM
Is Sam Hartley not the fella who carried the skip for Sambo's teams?

He is, left under a cloud.

This has to be a piss take.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 21, 2011, 11:32:17 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2011, 10:23:28 AM
Is Sam Hartley not the fella who carried the skip for Sambo's teams?

He is, left under a cloud.

This has to be a piss take.
It is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 21, 2011, 01:21:05 PM
What was that cloud? Actually it I still know nothing about this so assume its a bit of nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 21, 2011, 03:36:48 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Dinny's to take over in Down?  I hear he's been coaching Ballycran ahead of the Ulster Final on Sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 21, 2011, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 21, 2011, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley - Oisin
Leo Heatley - Tír na nÓg
Pat Hamill - Shane O'Neills
Dream Team

What clubs are they from then since no-one has any other info?

Wind up?

Wind up of the highest order  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 21, 2011, 05:44:23 PM
Found out this guy Sam is some tube with poor reputation, no hurler, pat hamill manager of glenarm, fattened hamill a player is nephew.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 21, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
Pdiddy are u joining the wind ups or else your soucres! Dinny nowhere near down! Expect him to train a club side closer to his home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 21, 2011, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 21, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
Pdiddy are u joining the wind ups or else your soucres! Dinny nowhere near down! Expect him to train a club side closer to his home.

No wind up. Read it in a thread on the down hogan stand site. All speculation of course but heh no smoke without fire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 21, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
On the Down Hoganstand site??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 21, 2011, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 20, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2011, 10:53:14 AM
Any word yet on the back room team? Must be all change, No?

Sam Hartley, Leo Heatley and Pat Hamill

Did he ever write anymore books after his bestseller
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 22, 2011, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 21, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
On the Down Hoganstand site??

http://hoganstand.com/Down/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=3&TopicID=68436
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 12:32:36 PM
I fancy the shamrocks today by about 7 points.  Got good odds from Sean Grahams yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
I hope this rain ceases soon. P**hing down!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 03:16:11 PM
Thankfully the rain has eased a bit. Ballycran playing with a strong breeze in slippery conditions. 3-2 to LG after 16 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 03:44:01 PM
Cheers Sie at a baptism and couldn't make it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 03:50:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 03:16:11 PM
Thankfully the rain has eased a bit. Ballycran playing with a strong breeze in slippery conditions. 3-2 to LG after 16 mins

Score SIE? Having a beer in the house and watching the Clare hurling final so couldn't make it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
Hear finished in casement 2-17 to 0-08 can this be confirmed, this is as far as shamrocks will go, good ballymena man as manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 04:54:31 PM
2-18 to 0-08. Terrible conditions. Once we went 3 ahead in the 1st half there'd only be one winner. Ballycran had huge wind advantage in 1st half and did nothing with it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
I said 15 points before the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 05:08:43 PM
It was 16 MR2. :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
I can count, close prediction though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 05:27:15 PM
Not bad MR2, not bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Sie my predictionn of shamrocks goin any further might be premature, Clare final poor standard, just think shamrocks forwards are physically that strong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Sie my predictionn of shamrocks goin any further might be premature, Clare final poor standard, just think shamrocks forwards are physically that strong

Piss conditions in fairness, that christening you were at must have had a TV ;)

Loughgiel should have nothing to fear in Munster. I've said already that the standard from there has been poor in recent years and haven't seen anything lately to change my mind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 06:12:58 PM
No matter who it is that comes out of Munster they'll be big favourites, and rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 06:12:58 PM
No matter who it is that comes out of Munster they'll be big favourites, and rightly so.

Course they should as we haven't been good since Dunloy flew the flag for Antrim. Being a neutral i can give a judgement on this and not be hyping my team or filling them with sweetie mice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 06:37:47 PM
Yeah no superb team in munster I know, shamrocks however aren't really physical and that could go against them, its goin to be open, still no great fire power, evidence being in antrim. Ulster I am afraid just keeps getting poorer and poorer.  Weather pure shit Mr2 I'll agree but even on good day that final would have been dour affair.  Having refreshments back in house, beat Belfast and that weather.  Match wasn't great goin by scoreline.  Fair play to shams they can party now without quick turn around this time.  Say cross will be too many next week for cosmopolitan st galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 06:47:04 PM
I don't think we can be accused of hyping ourselves up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 23, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
I thought Drom and Inch were impressive last weekend when winning the Tipp championship and if they came out of Munster i would expect them to beat the Shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 23, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
I thought Drom and Inch were impressive last weekend when winning the Tipp championship and if they came out of Munster i would expect them to beat the Shamrocks.

Yeah in fairness they looked good but I wouldn't have thought they had the best team, Thurles had the best team but lost out (sounds silly that) on the day to the team beat in the final.

Just think this is the easier side of the draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 23, 2011, 09:29:16 PM
Yes drom & inch sort them out I would think, ballygunner and themselves are probably pick of munster.  Unless shamrocks can unearth a few more forwards.  Watson and benny good, well the latter has some form but think they could be held too easily.  Think eventual winners will come from either kilkenny wexford or galway.  But with this weather going to be long winter.  I'm sure loughgiel have blocked book dunloy already.  Some of the yocals will be disgusted, but could be a while before they're in all Ireland semi again.  Best showing ever was when they despatched glenmore and the o,connors. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
I said 15 points before the game
And where did you say Milltown??????????   I said it on here, "Shamrocks by at least 7" well didn't I!!!!!!!!

Not like you to be siding with Loughgiel, have you fallen out with all your Dunloy friends!!!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
I said 15 points before the game
2 Hu, 2 Hu ?????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
Christ almighty MR2, sure have a funeral procession. God love yous all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Magnificent performance by the Shamrocks today, which was long overdue.  Dogged determination, winning the dirty loose ball and keeping the scoreboard ticking all afternoon, even after their second goal, was a fine and disciplined performance.

Glad to see they ran their bench and gave all the lasds a run out.  For me Joey scullion, Eddie McCloskey and Neilly were superb!  Likely to give the Dall a pasting when they next meet!!!!  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2011, 11:45:39 PM
I'll take Cross by 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Yeah 15 point win for me

here bog man   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Yeah 15 point win for me
Good lad Milltown, I didn't look back that far!

Anyone know when the Shamrocks Play the Dall in the league decider???  I hope it is not next weekend as I am off to England for a wedding.  Bad enough missing the Cross v St. Galls game and seeing St. Galls getting battered.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
Its this weekend coming as far as I have heard but if there is any more rain this week, there wont be a pitch in the county playable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 24, 2011, 11:14:43 AM
Fixed for this Sunday, however Cushendall has been worst affected by the rain and add into the fact our Camogs have an All-Ireland Quarter Final on Sunday at home against a London team then I don't think it'll be played in Cushendall or even at all. I wouldn't think either club would have much desire for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
These pints are going down mightily well today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bog Ash Camam on October 24, 2011, 03:17:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
These pints are going down mightily well today.
Good on ya SIE, enjoy, well deserved.  I had quite a few scoops to Arthur G last night myself, courtesy of Sean Grahams I may add!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 24, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Shams deserve their success, they've been on the road long time but still a good mix of young and old.  Where is laim mckillop and bobby mckinley both would be on my team if I was picking it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
McKillop is in Australia as far as I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2011, 11:37:13 PM
Liam's in oz and bobby was working in Scotland, back now, was training leading up to ulster but wasn't in squad, will be there in February
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 12:02:50 AM
What is the loughgiel view point on managers remark about this being greatest bunch club has ever produced.  Has he forgot the big yin.  I reckon 89 crowd superior, though they had little armoy brilliance back then.  I'd say cause for great debate in pound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 25, 2011, 02:05:36 AM
Quote from: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 12:02:50 AM
What is the loughgiel view point on managers remark about this being greatest bunch club has ever produced.  Has he forgot the big yin.  I reckon 89 crowd superior, though they had little armoy brilliance back then.  I'd say cause for great debate in pound.
Surely you mean 82/83??    No debate,  83 better side.  Cannot speak bad about our lads as past years, to be beat in so many finals, keep going back and doing there best, they got there in end!!  very very proud of all the lads, 83 was very special year in our clubs history!!  Who knows, maybe be a bigger debate come February or march ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 06:12:43 AM
Quote from: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 12:02:50 AM
What is the loughgiel view point on managers remark about this being greatest bunch club has ever produced.  Has he forgot the big yin.  I reckon 89 crowd superior, though they had little armoy brilliance back then.  I'd say cause for great debate in pound.
We had plenty of our own talent in the '89 team. Beaver should have won an all star for his performance in the semi against Offaly, 2-04 he tallied on that famous day. I love how some people keep bringing the cloot thing up. The fact is that Armoy had no senior team that year and he chose to play for Loughgiel. There were other clubs banging on his door to join them btw. I think that's what wrangles them more than anything. Also taking a look around teams and panels of our not so distant neighbours, plenty of "outsiders" on their squads as well down through the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 25, 2011, 09:06:11 AM
Name an outsider from your not so distant neighbours that won a championship medal or had a significant contribution to a championship winning season? I am intrigued  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 25, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
what is the definition of an outsider.?

not very good examples IMO bdgttgttgttt, or comparable to cloot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?

With you claiming to be a Belfast Gael I'd say your own club is littered with outsiders
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?

Martin moved to Cushendall after marrying a local woman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 25, 2011, 12:48:32 PM
At the time i would think there wasn't a club in Antrim or Ulster who wouldn't of loved him playing for them,he just ended up in Loughgiel.  move on!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on October 25, 2011, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?

Martin moved to Cushendall after marrying a local woman

Did that mean he was barred from still playing for Armoy and making the huge 20 minute journey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 25, 2011, 01:24:27 PM
The year clute played for Loughgiel Armoy did have a senior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 02:24:08 PM
Relax MR2! I went to the bother of posting that I wasnt getting at anyone in particular justa bit of trivia! Maybe you are just sensitive on this point!
I cant remember if Armoy had a seniour team that year to be honest, but the McClafferty move can hardly be looked on as a big travelling distance!
Anyway, I am honestly not getting at anyone I am sure we have all had out transfers at some point - any other interesting ones we can remember guys?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Trout on October 25, 2011, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?

Martin moved to Cushendall after marrying a local woman

Did that mean he was barred from still playing for Armoy and making the huge 20 minute journey?

Did I say he was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 03:31:56 PM
No they didn't jj. Makes no odds, every club has been taking players from outside since day 1. This was different and has been repeated to death because it was Loughgiel.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Isn't Paddy Doc from Rasharkin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on October 25, 2011, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Trout on October 25, 2011, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 25, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 25, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Ok out of boredom I will have a go at this thinking of recent hurling winners -
Dall had a fella from Armoy Martin mcClafferty, Rossa had the grahams, Dunloy's Tony McGrath was from Kilrea, and ofcourse Cloot from Loughiel the most famous.
Maybe MR2 might run out of space re-counting the imports his footballers have!

Oh and before anyone takes offence I am stating this out of trivia and not criticising any club or casting judgment!
Can anyone else add any others?

Martin moved to Cushendall after marrying a local woman

Did that mean he was barred from still playing for Armoy and making the huge 20 minute journey?

Did I say he was.

Your point about him marrying a Cushendall woman is irrelevant, unless he lived in Cork beforehand. He was glory hunting, plain and simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 25, 2011, 04:22:06 PM
Cloot played minor for Loughgiel,and his family originated in Loughgiel parish although he came from Armoy glen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 25, 2011, 04:30:02 PM
Glory hunting is a bit strong. Martin moved to cdall.cloot went back to armoy.although i dont know how anyone could pull another club top on and still have the same passion for the game. Or even have respect of other team mates when returning.   Just not for me!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 25, 2011, 04:34:47 PM
SIE I have no problem with clute coming to Loughgiel for that year but I can say for a fact that Armoy did have a senior team. If they didn't then are you telling me that in 1988 Armoy had a senior team, in 1989 they didn't and then in 1990 they did have a team again and during 1989 no other Armoy man fancied hurling for anyone at all, clute was the only one???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 05:23:36 PM
Jesus this has been busy.  Meant comparison of 89 team don't go back far enough to remember the all Ireland winning team.  Woody, beaver the mckillops, dew, laverty I'd go for 89, though ballybrown beat them very and square and venue wasn't exactly neutral.  As for armoy having no team, load of shite.  glory hunting plain and simple, they're all the same.  Unless your at least, no more than couple of hours away.  Then you'll find they'll wear the new.club gear the most.  A disease most clubs have.  Cross as many as galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 25, 2011, 05:32:47 PM
Whilst we're discussing players from that era. Is it true that Beaver hung up the boots at 27? For such a LG great it does seem a bit strange. Maybe I'm wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 25, 2011, 04:34:47 PM
SIE I have no problem with clute coming to Loughgiel for that year but I can say for a fact that Armoy did have a senior team. If they didn't then are you telling me that in 1988 Armoy had a senior team, in 1989 they didn't and then in 1990 they did have a team again and during 1989 no other Armoy man fancied hurling for anyone at all, clute was the only one???
JJ, don't take my word for it then. Click on the following link and read the bit where it stated that Armoy didn't field a senior team that year.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=71434
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 05:23:36 PM
Jesus this has been busy.  Meant comparison of 89 team don't go back far enough to remember the all Ireland winning team.  Woody, beaver the mckillops, dew, laverty I'd go for 89, though ballybrown beat them very and square and venue wasn't exactly neutral.  As for armoy having no team, load of shite.  glory hunting plain and simple, they're all the same.  Unless your at least, no more than couple of hours away.  Then you'll find they'll wear the new.club gear the most.  A disease most clubs have.  Cross as many as galls.
click on the link.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=71434






Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Talks about 88 with loughgiel, the article has a no of inaccuracies. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Talks about 88 with loughgiel, the article has a no of inaccuracies.
It talked about Armoy failing to have a senior team in 88.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 08:13:28 PM
I can remember playing Armoy around that time. Convinced they had a team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 25, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 25, 2011, 06:11:29 PM
Talks about 88 with loughgiel, the article has a no of inaccuracies.
It talked about Armoy failing to have a senior team in 88.

Armoy had a team in '88 because we beat them in Countess of Antrim final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
Then they've got the year wrong. Must've been '89.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
I just found this web page. There are  great old photos of teams from around the glens.

http://www.slideshare.net/martinmccarry/the-gaa-in-the-glens-of-antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 25, 2011, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
I just found this web page. There are  great old photos of teams from around the glens.

http://www.slideshare.net/martinmccarry/the-gaa-in-the-glens-of-antrim

Yeah have seen that before, well worth half an hour of anyones time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2011, 02:08:09 PM
Ok just a question in general

Any ideas (must be practical) of how to develop the game of hurling across Ulster, think we are all in agreement that the standards have dropped over the last couple of years, so what can we do about it, the more radical the better?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 26, 2011, 02:22:04 PM
Get rig of previous thinkers on how the game should be played!!!

These are just my ideas (of course there are in reality more than 3 issues - but these are the focus)

Its simple - 3 massive problems -

1) commitment - i mean real commitment, a new level, the wife needs to accept it, and if we want to throw young families and other things in the way then we dont really have it. Harsh but true!  How did Eddie Brennan make the all ireland final after not playing much in the months before it? complete dedication!!

2) Ability - heart and determination only gets you so far!! Being coached intense hurling form day one! (systems of play)

3) Intensity and fitness like not before seen!

If we can buy into these 3 things, Ulster wont be far away!

The club that does will leave the rest behind!!!

I look forward to the experts (to whom i refer in the first line) response!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on October 26, 2011, 02:40:44 PM
I was thinking along the lines of bringing Tyrone teams into Derry and Armagh teams into Down etc..., kind of like the Ulster league but more competitive. This might be a bit hard due to travelling distances between counties.
Hurling needs to be played in schools, across Ulster most schools don't have a hurling team but have a football team. Schools will make students play Gaelic football in P.E but not hurling, more children need to be exposed to the sport because, as it stands, bucket loads of children in several ulster counties will never ever hold a hurling stick in their lives.
I've read several articles/books written by hurlers from big hurling counties and the school seems to play a very important part in developing young hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 26, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Ok so the holistic long term approach?

schools? yes- spot on!

proper forward thinking coaching in clubs!

Like idea about leagues but Ulster League can provide this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
Some decent points lads.

I dont think we can rely on schools though! Bottom line is that teachers are there to deliver subject and exam grades so we cannot assume they are going to promote hurling. To be honest it is not what they are there for. It is the clubs which will remain the nucleus. Putting paid coaching staff into schools is perhaps something to solve this - but we discussed this before that for one reason or another Antrim have failed miserably here!

In terms of promoting hurling in weaker counties - for many this is a finance issue. Hurls, Sliotars and helmets are an expense not incurred to the same levels with gaelic football so these clubs will need help from HQ if it is to happen.

I like the idea of an Ulster league. Fair enough we will have to think about fixture making but the 9counties are more accessible and less familiarity of teams will benefit all - perhaps the Ulster league should repalce county leagues. I can think of a number of benefits here but then do Ulster council want to administer issues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2011, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
Some decent points lads.

I dont think we can rely on schools though! Bottom line is that teachers are there to deliver subject and exam grades so we cannot assume they are going to promote hurling. To be honest it is not what they are there for. It is the clubs which will remain the nucleus. Putting paid coaching staff into schools is perhaps something to solve this - but we discussed this before that for one reason or another Antrim have failed miserably here!

In terms of promoting hurling in weaker counties - for many this is a finance issue. Hurls, Sliotars and helmets are an expense not incurred to the same levels with gaelic football so these clubs will need help from HQ if it is to happen.

I like the idea of an Ulster league. Fair enough we will have to think about fixture making but the 9counties are more accessible and less familiarity of teams will benefit all - perhaps the Ulster league should repalce county leagues. I can think of a number of benefits here but then do Ulster council want to administer issues?

No is the short answer to that btdtgtt.

I agree in the long term schools are the key and the commitment is a massive aspect which needs to be addressed.

One short term point IMO should be that JW should be asked to either provide a few coaching sessions for our coaches to come along and have a look at or go around the clubs and reinvigorate the coaches that are on the ground (not just stopping and one club like his predecessor  ;))

I know its a short term gain but could be a viable one to get going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 26, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
Schools the key, we used to play a primary school league against cushendun, corkey, glenariff, armoy but now teachers have a lot more deadlines.to keep and.male teachers especially in the primary are scarce.  Mate of mine teaches and he claims the county doesn't even supply balls.  Coaching, coaching and more coaching is key, coupled with games, games, blitzs etc.  County should fund underage as.much as.possible through giving budgets to schools and clubs for this.  Development officers.needed here. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2011, 09:06:40 PM
All of the above very true saffronog - which is why we can't rely on schools! Don't forget the whole set up there actually discourages teachers from taking teams nowadays - many reasons but thats fact. Antrim paid officials are not doing their jobs. Therefore I think clubs primary organ - after all this is where the kids are in the summer hurling months!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 26, 2011, 09:28:04 PM
First of all, if men neglecting their families is the answer to raising our standards then i hope the malaise remains. 

2 key points to this question, firstly what is our aim as an organisation, is it to produce elite players, capable of mixing with the cats et al; or is success developing and increasing the number of players and opportunities to play.  To different measures and to be honest I think for hurling our primary aim should be encouraging bigger take up within current clubs.

In saying that I think plenty could be done to improve both
- primary schools, forget about sending coaches in during class time, waste of time,
The session will envitably be aimed at the complete novices, have it agrees hook for the children who want to hurl, whose parents buy into it, get league games going and blitz's.

- secondary schools, wtf goes on in north Antrim that until cross and passion none of the
School achieved anything, get hurling men into to take the teams, get rid of the college and vocational system and have one schools competition, get the techs involved in these also

- university should be a platform to make anname for yourself as a hurler, UUJ under dick O'Kane seemed to be making progress, how good for these young fella if a couple of quality players from the southern teams could be encouraged up ala the sigerson teams

- the dunsilly should involve a full time strength and conditioning coach, all development teams get programmes and are regularly tested for improvements and sins of burn out

- clubs that show a willingness to fully engage in nursery programmes to be given financial support
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2011, 09:56:30 PM
Some great points maxpower!

I agree with all - except I an not sure how the St marys Belfast brethren will agree with your cross&passion comment! St marys are by far the most successful school at mageean and an incredible number represent county (granted limited all Ireland impact in A comp).

Our universities remain miles behind but this is different issue due to them competing against totally different set up in south (Bursaries & entrance criteria). Still at this stage progression is complete most are senior level already nowadays.

But I think u hit nail on the head on schools - clubs are and will remain the most effective breeding ground. Fact of life - gaa clubs promote gaa as no.1 priority - schools priority is exams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on October 26, 2011, 10:03:19 PM
I wasn't thinking of taking time out of lessons to play hurling, I was thinking along the lines of introducing it into the PE curriculum (if there is such a thing) or coaching sessions after school or at lunch time. I never played hurling at PE. I played Gaelic, soccer, volley ball, gymnastics, cricket, basketball etc.. but never once played hurling. Its not as if there was no equipment, there was sticks and helmets that the girls used (well actually, I didn't see them using them either)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 26, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
U know max that last point very good, cross passion done well, hurling men in other schools, there are a good few problem is they teach.  Like many good hurlers out there many work and dont have time to coach. friend teaches and trains school but we can'tvget him to train club, lazy bastard. Belfast schools always strong due to nos.  My old school in dire straights, used to be tops with shams, and dunloy players , now we are in b competition.  Tower seems to be on way back.  But cp and maghera main teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 26, 2011, 10:17:05 PM
Why does the iPhone automatically change words, after school became agrees hook - wtf

I was also referring to North Antrim Schools when I mentioned C&P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 26, 2011, 02:22:04 PM

1) commitment - i mean real commitment, a new level, the wife needs to accept it, and if we want to throw young families and other things in the way then we dont really have it. Harsh but true!  How did Eddie Brennan make the all ireland final after not playing much in the months before it? complete dedication!!


Quote from: maxpower on October 26, 2011, 09:28:04 PM
First of all, if men neglecting their families is the answer to raising our standards then i hope the malaise remains. 


In the context of dearyme's comment I can see where you're coming from Max. But more commitment from parents who have kids who are involved in the game would make a massive difference to even the well established clubs. If you go to up and coming clubs like St Endas, Bredagh, Carryduff, they all have one thing in common....and that is a large number of interested parents (i.e. parents who are prepared to play a part in their childs development within that GAA club). Alot of them will not have played the game but there is enough expertise to bed in the basics and they can help and develop their coaching skills on the way. Just how that message can be communicated and accepted by parents is one I don't have an answer for ecause I think it should be a natural thing for them to WANT to do but I do believe there are too many who are prepared to leave too few to do what they can rather than them play their part and make the experience for all so much better (in terms of team moral, support, discipline, success, funding, enjoyment etc). Many hands make light work

The other stuff I agree with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 27, 2011, 07:16:51 AM
I don't think we're in disagreement there Skull, my point was purely at the suggestion players should sacrifice family life for hurling, plenty of room for a young family at club level, but unfortunately it very difficult especially for players of a low profile.

Parental commitment is a whole different issue and I fully agree too many leave to too few, and with no excuses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 27, 2011, 07:16:51 AM
I don't think we're in disagreement there Skull, my point was purely at the suggestion players should sacrifice family life for hurling, plenty of room for a young family at club level, but unfortunately it very difficult especially for players of a low profile.

Parental commitment is a whole different issue and I fully agree too many leave to too few, and with no excuses
Not sure any of us would suggest that you should sacrafice family life Max but rather we try to make it part of family life, isn't that what the GAA is about?  Little reason why, except in special circumstances why we can't make it fit.
"Boiler" wives/girl friends have a lot to answer for!!  :D so young lads beware of this problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:34:35 AM
My post does not suggest excluding a father from the upbringing of his children!
I am realistic ( i did know my post would be rubbished - interpretation is an annoying existence at times)

But yes, too many distractions in the north,all the'same olds'- but real commitment to our games is the only way to succeed.
I dont think dipping the toe in will make ulster a success - the gaa is a way of life and as such commitment (as skull suggests) is essential - gotta live and breathe it! and that means the whole family!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2011, 11:59:00 AM
So in summary;

More Parents involved in their children's coaching sessions.
Coaches being valued and offered chances to improve themselves as coaches.
Increased Support coming from County Officials/ paid officers.
Increased support to primary school teachers
More club support for local secondary/ grammar schools in terms of coaching and helping out with teams

Does anyone think that for clubs and our county that any of these basic principals would be difficult as a starting point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 28, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Positive meeting with Jerry Wallace last night by the sound of it, and it would seem that U21 and Minor teams will be part of his remit also.  Trials for U21 & Minor panel starting in November.

Also casting the net far and wide again to try and find new additions to the senior panel - all clubs asked to nominate 4 players who werent part of last years squad.  Wallace then going to run up to 5 trial matches through Nov to look at all the talent on offer.

Final interesting point of note is that the Minors will be at least 17 1/2 years old and no younger players will be looked at for trials  :o (Clubs to each nominate up to 6 players)

Hurling Trials & Development Dates
 
            Date                        Event                             Venue         Time
Wednesday Nov 9         Senior Trial Game                   TBC          7.30pm
Saturday Nov 12         U21 & Minor Dev Squads            TBC          9.45am
Saturday Nov 12           Senior Trial Game                   TBC          2.00pm
Saturday Nov 19         U21 & Minor Dev Squads            TBC          9.45am
Wednesday Nov 23     Senior Trial Game                      TBC          2.00pm
Saturday Nov 26        U21 & Minor Dev Squads             TBC          9.45am
Saturday Nov 26          Senior Trial Game                    TBC           2.00pm
Wednesday Nov 30       Senior Trial Game                   TBC           7.30pm
Saturday Dec 3             Senior Fitness Test                  TBC          9.45am

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2011, 01:46:55 AM
Heard That tonight funny enough . Will wait till I'm sober before I have a point on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 29, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
That can't be right about the minors, surely as long as they are not u16 they are good to go.

Personally I detest trail matches, especially in November when some players won't have lifted a hurl in months and others hurling steady college, county champions etc, but if it unearths another player that is great.

Who is the backroom team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2011, 10:41:26 AM
Anybody else for the Cushendall/Loughgiel game tomorrow? I see GD is referring, should be an open game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 29, 2011, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2011, 01:46:55 AM
Heard That tonight funny enough . Will wait till I'm sober before I have a point on it

We'll maybe hear from you by Thursday so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Half time: Cushendall 1-08 Shamrocks 0-05. Cushendall had big wind advantage first half. I'm not so sure 6 points is going to be enough. Btw, it's Herbie referring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 03:48:29 PM
Full time: cushendall 1.10 Shamrocks 2-15
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Post by: gelvis on October 30, 2011, 04:10:10 PM
Feisty enough affair in Cushendall but that was to be expected.  Was Eunan McKillop sent off for pulling the man down when everyone else was in the scuffle?

Heard the Rasharkin v Lamh Dherg game was even fiestier though?  Ray Matthew's throwing down fistycuffs to players too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
There should have been more yellow cards in the first half Gelvis. I'm trying not to put herbie down but he seemed out of his league there today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 30, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
There should have been more yellow cards in the first half Gelvis. I'm trying not to put herbie down but he seemed out of his league there today.

To be fair to Herbie there wouldn't have been many left playing if he had booked them as normal.  Wouldn't have mattered who the referee was.  It's an end of season game, one set of players with nothing to lose but scores to settle.  They're the same every year sure.  I for one have absolutely no problem paying in to watch a game like that!  Some of the hurling wasn't bad either  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 04:40:55 PM
Agreed. Some good hurlng on view as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 30, 2011, 05:56:57 PM
Some rough stuff from both teams today and I don't know how Loughgiel get away with only 1 yellow card. Couldn't believe Herbie let the game go with a full scale fight going on involving at least 15 players, crazy decision from him. It looked like he panicked and didn't know what to do. If ever there was a case for having the league finished before the start of the championship then this was it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Like I said posted earlier JJ, he seemed out of his league. But then as gelvis said, it could have ended up  15 playing 12. I wouldn't want to be a referee, it's a thankless task.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 30, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
One thing for sure,Shamrocks have proved themselves by far the beat team in Ulster,no doubt about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 30, 2011, 07:45:47 PM
Did you work that out all on your own lol  ::)

Rough enough game which herbie had no idea how to handle (not made easy by the players), only one slap deserved a straight red and he chickened out of making a decision by completely ignoring it and the 15+ man scuffle which followed.

As someone said, pointless playing league matches at this time of year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 08:05:21 PM
Unless there's a trophy to collect megaman.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
Ballygunner 2-15 Drom & Inch 1-13. Reading through a few predictions for this match result this seems a bit of a shock.



James Stephens 1-20 Ballyhale Shamrocks 0-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 30, 2011, 09:34:42 PM
Yes I did, it wasn't too difficult,just a form of congratulations to a very good team !!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2011, 09:46:43 PM
Only one shock so far in Munster, that was Thurles getting beat in Tipp. Ballygunner have been and still are a decent team but have been unlucky in the finals. Loughgiel and I have said it already will have a better route to a final by playing Munster opposition.  Ballyhale beat fairly today. I still have a feeling for Ballyboden, I know they are missing great players but have been knocking on the door for years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2011, 06:17:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2011, 09:46:43 PM
Only one shock so far in Munster, that was Thurles getting beat in Tipp. Ballygunner have been and still are a decent team but have been unlucky in the finals. Loughgiel and I have said it already will have a better route to a final by playing Munster opposition.  Ballyhale beat fairly today. I still have a feeling for Ballyboden, I know they are missing great players but have been knocking on the door for years
I know they've had too much for the rest in Dublin the last 5 years, but have just fallen short once they've come up against one of the 'big boys' in Leinster. It would be good to see them go that one stage further this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 31, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
::)

Did Oulart win the Wexford championship this year, if so they are a very capable team and should really have won the Leinster Championship last year.  In saying that I believe James Stephens are an excellent side, have been in the shadow of Ballyhale for the last few years but previous All Ireland Champions and at this stage would be favourites for the title, possibly along with Clarinbridge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 31, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 31, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
::)

Did Oulart win the Wexford championship this year, if so they are a very capable team and should really have won the Leinster Championship last year.  In saying that I believe James Stephens are an excellent side, have been in the shadow of Ballyhale for the last few years but previous All Ireland Champions and at this stage would be favourites for the title, possibly along with Clarinbridge

Yip, as Kilkenny and Galway have shared the last 7 all-ireland titles between them the favourites tag will sit with them and rightly so.  Heard alot of talk about Na Piarsaigh of Limerick so my money's on them to come out of Munster.

Oulart the Ballagh won the Wexford Championship and are up against James Stephen's in the next round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2011, 02:54:46 PM
Look you are in the semi final. I believe ya's have a great chance to get to Croke, while the standard coming from Munster has not been great there is no doubting they are probably playing higher tempo games than the Ulster Champions.

That said Cushendall should have beaten De La Salle at Parnel Park 3 years ago. I see no reason why Loughgiel can't at least put in the same effort or more and beat the Munster teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2011, 03:33:29 PM
Neither can I MR2, especially if they show the commitment and determination to win like they have done in their last couple of games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 31, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
My money would be on ballygunner.  Are a very handy outfit. I also think james stephens will win leinster. Like said. Have been in Shamrocks shadow past few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 31, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
My money would be on ballygunner.  Are a very handy outfit. I also think james stephens will win leinster. Like said. Have been in Shamrocks shadow past few years

Yeah, but they have the same team that Ballyhale have beaten the last few years!! Phily Larkin still playing for them FFS he'd be my age and playing full back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 31, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2011, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 31, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
My money would be on ballygunner.  Are a very handy outfit. I also think james stephens will win leinster. Like said. Have been in Shamrocks shadow past few years

Yeah, but they have the same team that Ballyhale have beaten the last few years!! Phily Larkin still playing for them FFS he'd be my age and playing full back.
He played at corner back, RH back and then in front of Shefflin in the 2nd half after the sendings off. Didnt see him put a foot wrong to be honest, still an asset to the village. Eoin Larkin was the star man and Jackie was rock solid before a 2nd yellow. If these 2 maintain form they will be hard to work with.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on October 31, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
Were the same team c,dall beat in past years, doesnt make us a bad side. Not just cause he stared in all Ireland final, but not many backs in country could mark Eoin Larkin,   unreal hurler.  plus there isn't many forwards in ireland that Jackie couldn't mark,  honestly people going on about 'Big Teams' being gone, lol,   some serious teams still in it.  Never a bad team in it at this stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Barney McAuley has been named North Antrim hurler of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Barney McAuley has been named North Antrim hurler of the year.

Fire up the band.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2011, 06:08:15 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 31, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Barney McAuley has been named North Antrim hurler of the year.

Fire up the band.
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2011, 07:57:22 AM
Ulster league final between LG and DL now on 13/11/11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 01, 2011, 12:19:07 PM
Well done Barney,well deserved.
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Post by: maxpower on November 01, 2011, 01:57:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2011, 07:57:22 AM
Ulster league final between LG and DL now on 13/11/11.


what is wrong with this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2011, 02:27:01 PM
No idea. Perhaps Pdiddy might know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 01, 2011, 03:45:03 PM
Yip, I'm away this weekend and didn't want to miss it  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 01, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
Surely dunloy won't be fit to beat loughgiel this year.  I actually think it will be this time next.year that I am more confident in their ability.  Barney has been reborn after shift from defence.  Maybe a few others could do with shift????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 01, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
Surely dunloy won't be fit to beat loughgiel this year.  I actually think it will be this time next.year that I am more confident in their ability.  Barney has been reborn after shift from defence.  Maybe a few others could do with shift????
I don't think anyone is ruling out Dunloy in this one. They're the only team to beat us this year in any competition worth mentioning, and they did it twice. Fair enough, the second one was a lottery because of the weather, but they ended up on the winning side non the less.

Nothing would please them more to get the last laugh this year again.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 01, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
Disgraceful the ray Matthews incident, father was at the game said it.bordered on riotous.  Lengthy suspensions for clubs the only medicine.  What message does this send out to young whistle blowers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all acounts he was swinging digs himself ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all acounts he was swinging digs himself ::)

If you had people attacking you, would you be letting them? Stupid comment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 01:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all acounts he was swinging digs himself ::)

If you had people attacking you, would you be letting them? Stupid comment
Not really a stupid comment, all i done was point out that i had heard he was swinging at players?  problem being what??
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Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2011, 02:11:27 AM
Maybe where you come from it wouldn't be considerered a stupid comment. 

For its lack of context and the seriousness of the event I'd be if the opinion that only a complete numpty would think that it wasn't stupid.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
There's no mention of the incident on the county website at all. Maybe if they ignore it it'll go away.  ::)

Neither is there any mention of us winning the league. Brilliant site, not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 02, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
I'm sure everyone from the politically correct brigade will jump on me for saying this but it was only a matter of time before RM got chinned. The way he talks to players is totally wrong, earlier this year I heard him tell one of our players at an U-21 match, when he questioned a decision, to f**k off ya w****r. If referees want respect they have to give it as well, it isn't just a one way street. That said attacking a ref is still crossing the line.
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Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 09:20:57 AM
JJ - I will be the first to condemn you for raising that issue. You and a few other posters on this board are so out of line on this topic it is unreal.

Ray's style as a referee has absolutely no and I mean no impact on a mob waiting for him to come off a pitch and attack him.

This is a man who gave up a Saturday afternoon to ref a match he probably had little interest in and what does he get for his trouble a night spent in A&E. There is no justification for this no matter how far anyone will dig or look for it.

We seriously need to look at how we punish these people - IMO banning the club is not the answer because it hurts the whole club and the culprits get to hide in a crowd. Serious worrying reports that players had gone into the dressing room got changed and came back out to attack Ray. Some hard questions to be asked in the near future both by Rasharkin and by the County Board.

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Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 02, 2011, 09:36:28 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
There's no mention of the incident on the county website at all. Maybe if they ignore it it'll go away.  ::)

Neither is there any mention of us winning the league. Brilliant site, not.

You seriously think it a good idea that it gets a full airing on the county site before "due process" applies????

Now the powers that be may well be sitting on their hands in a darkened room hoping it all goes away before the Irish News runs a 3 page special on it, but presumably the referee's report will (eventually) be received, Rasharkin (or any one else) will be called to give "their" side of the story and then a decision will be made.

The amount of suspensions or other punishments in the GAA that ultimately get overturned because proper procedures are not followed is simply ridiculous e.g. the same people hearing an appeal from an earlier decision.

Lets hope whatever decision is reached, its done properly rather than allowing the recipient to get off on a technicality in a months time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 09:38:06 AM
They could've mentioned that they were investigating the matter, yes. After all, it's being aired quite publicly in other media formats, whether they like it or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 02, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 09:38:06 AM
They could've mentioned that they were investigating the matter, yes. After all, it's being aired quite publicly in other media formats, whether they like it or not.

Yeah, but the other formats dont have to make the decision - the County Board or the CCCC or whatever sub-committee has to make the decision which, in light of the reports on other media, may well be severe and, if it is severe, will almost definitely be challenged up the line.

What do you want  the County Website to say - "We heard there was a big fight in Ballymena and we are looking into it. We'll be back to you. Watch this space."?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 10:02:19 AM
A bit simplistic there cftto. An acknowledgment that two of their officials
were attacked might be warranted. A reminder of the sanctions available to them,  both within and without of the GAA, might be warranted to deter others from pursuing a similar course of action in the future. The details don't need to published, but saying nothing on the matter is just a bit blinkered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 02, 2011, 10:06:31 AM
Lads lads come on!

Maybe it's a drawback of cyberspace but let's get real here - a ref was attacked! It doesn't matter about his attitude or decisions - our games should have respect for the ref jersey that dictates this I'd unthinkable!

I can't have refs - I think they are poor - but assault? Come on let's never comment on this on anything other than a complete disgrace to our association! Look at the publicity we are all painted as muck savages already.

As for ray Mathews I really hope he dis defend himself - otherwise god knows how much worse it could have been. I spoke to 2people at the game (1lamh dearg & 1ballymena) they both told me it was "scary". If ray goes to the courts so be it because such incidents have no place in our games so can be dealt with outside of our games.

Rasharkin need to hand their heads in shame! Not even a statement of regret! Their juveniles should play all games away from home, and every team above minor suspended for 1year. No sanction is goin to seem appropriate but we have to start somewhere.

This is a non-issue. A ref getting attacked is the bottom line - let's not offer any comment other than that or the appropriate punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 02, 2011, 10:54:04 AM
Jim Murray was interviewed about this incident. It was in the papers and possibly hoganstand.com or bbc website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 10:55:24 AM
Exactly and he gave the standard response, they wont act until they have the report. Wouldnt expect him to say anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
And nothing on their own site, like I said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)

If you had people attacking you, would you be letting them? Stupid comment
MR2  to answer your question. No!!  i wouldn't be letting them, but am not a top ref in antrim, surely the matter could of been defused sooner if he didn't start throwing digs himself, think RM is top ref and any nice person, not having go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 11:33:29 AM
Jesus Jones (I will leave it at that) how are we to attract younger whistle blowers.  No doubt your u21 player was innocent.  Either way if he can't handle comments the forum is to complain.  Not assault. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
I'd be in agreement with SIE. If it makes the news then there at least should be something up on the county website.

No need to concern ourselves with who won the league though  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 11:37:17 AM
No one ever did in the past Skull so why should now be any different  ;)

Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)




You obviously are having a go, there is no need for your statement because you dont know the facts of the situation so I would suggestion you take down your accusation against a referee who was attacked by a mob.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 11:43:52 AM
No problem with ray landing a.few digs, natural instinct.  See Jackie tyrell out of Sundays game, reckon this and week turn around could be tricky.  This could end up in courts, rasharkin always had a scummie element, saints for ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 02, 2011, 11:54:04 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 06:12:11 AM
There's no mention of the incident on the county website at all. Maybe if they ignore it it'll go away.  ::)

Neither is there any mention of us winning the league. Brilliant site, not.

Was there any mention of Ballycastle, St. Pauls or Creggan winning their league?  Give your club PRO a kick up the hole if this bothers you so much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 12:02:56 PM
Great response!!! Bloody typical. I'm not interested in those other clubs, tbh. But now you've brought them up, yeah, why weren't they mentioned? I mean, is it too much to ask the county website to update everyone on how the their leagues have finished? I mean, they are the county  Aontroim leagues aren't they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on November 02, 2011, 12:16:45 PM
As the man who replies in the guestbook says so often, if you want it mentioned get someone from your club to send in a report on the match and I'm sure it would be on the website. There was a bit in the twitter feed, not much but still there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 12:20:36 PM
So, the PROs of the respective clubs have all to individually send in a message of congratulations to the county website to get it mentioned? Really? I wouldn't have thought it would have been too difficult to upload a message of congratulations to the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
Well SIE you just did it in here  ;)

Just copy and paste it across
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 12:25:05 PM
I might just do that NAG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 02, 2011, 12:55:40 PM
SIE run for County PRO and stop your whinging
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 11:37:17 AM
No one ever did in the past Skull so why should now be any different  ;)

Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)




You obviously are having a go, there is no need for your statement because you dont know the facts of the situation so I would suggestion you take down your accusation against a referee who was attacked by a mob.
I wasn't having go. Its not us who has problem with him. I just feel that it could maybe of been handled different. But like you pointed out i dont know the facts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on November 02, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
Who wouldn't be swinging and kicking at people attacking them? A man's allowed to protect himself isn't he? If he had of knocked out half of the people attacking him I still would have found it totally acceptable that "he was swinging digs himself"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2011, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 11:37:17 AM
No one ever did in the past Skull so why should now be any different  ;)

Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)




You obviously are having a go, there is no need for your statement because you dont know the facts of the situation so I would suggestion you take down your accusation against a referee who was attacked by a mob.
I wasn't having go. Its not us who has problem with him. I just feel that it could maybe of been handled different. But like you pointed out i dont know the facts

If you don't know the facts why did you post? Where you there?

Who is this "us" you talk about? Loughgiel? what's that mean?

Could he have handled himself differently against the mob? How would you have handled it?

Ray refereed our game against Cushendall and had he blew before they scored the winning point we could have had a replay, if had have blew for a foul out on the wing late on we could have won. I'd plenty of reasons to be cross with Ray the next day, but here's the difference, I spoke to Ray the next day and he explained his reasons behind it and that was that. Approachable and took time to explain and give his opinion on how we could have won the match based on his prior experience of being a player himself.

He may talk a lot during the but nobody talks more than the players, mouthing telling the referee how to referee (guilty off and since refereeing it's my pet hate from players) If we had a questionnaire on the rules, the referee would get more right than the player. Remember no referee then the games can't be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
good point MR2 on Ray and Referees, final point on this, clubs and supporters need major punishment.  Or else there will simply be no referees.  Anyway is this way an indiividual who is giving his time should be treated.  Thug element here i'm afraid.

SIE - fair point about league win, should have been mentioned, to give it more profile and also winners of all leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2011, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 02, 2011, 11:37:17 AM
No one ever did in the past Skull so why should now be any different  ;)

Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)




You obviously are having a go, there is no need for your statement because you dont know the facts of the situation so I would suggestion you take down your accusation against a referee who was attacked by a mob.
I wasn't having go. Its not us who has problem with him. I just feel that it could maybe of been handled different. But like you pointed out i dont know the facts

If you don't know the facts why did you post? Where you there?

Who is this "us" you talk about? Loughgiel? what's that mean?

Could he have handled himself differently against the mob? How would you have handled it?

Ray refereed our game against Cushendall and had he blew before they scored the winning point we could have had a replay, if had have blew for a foul out on the wing late on we could have won. I'd plenty of reasons to be cross with Ray the next day, but here's the difference, I spoke to Ray the next day and he explained his reasons behind it and that was that. Approachable and took time to explain and give his opinion on how we could have won the match based on his prior experience of being a player himself.

He may talk a lot during the but nobody talks more than the players, mouthing telling the referee how to referee (guilty off and since refereeing it's my pet hate from players) If we had a questionnaire on the rules, the referee would get more right than the player. Remember no referee then the games can't be played
I have no problem with the man. Think he is a great ref.   All i pointed out was that he hit back. It is a discussion site.  Wanted to here more on matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on November 02, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2011, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
By all accounts he was swinging digs himself ::)

If you had people attacking you, would you be letting them? Stupid comment
MR2  to answer your question. No!!  i wouldn't be letting them, but am not a top ref in antrim, surely the matter could of been defused sooner if he didn't start throwing digs himself, think RM is top ref and any nice person, not having go
Catch yourself on, he was chased by a mob, I don't think Ray went and sought them out to start the row. As I said elsewhere the blame lies with the mob and the players who started by getting sent off, not the officials. With attitudes such as yours we will never stamp this out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
Let's us remind ourselves this is not first referee attacked in antrim, glenariffe referee was in Irish news with black eye one time, a.guy robin, he works in michlen very close to scene of rays attack.  As for smart remarks if every ref was to get a slap our own Elliot and mc clean would have got them long ago.  Mick o connell and tommy excellent refs.  Young cunning shaping up well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2011, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 02, 2011, 12:55:40 PM
SIE run for County PRO and stop your whinging
No no, you misunderstand. I was merely pointing out how bad our county site is at updating things and keeping us, the gaels of Antrim, informed. That's not 'whinging' that's pointing out the bleedin obvious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 02, 2011, 06:46:03 PM
Scared to make a comment on county site for fear of getting a cheeky or sarcastic answer,usually a patronising put down!.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
I'd say u would get more.sarcasm in the pound
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 02, 2011, 07:47:51 PM
We're not talking about the Pound,at least it would be face to face there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 02, 2011, 08:24:54 PM
Might even be more sense there, that the nature of guestbooks any shit can be spread, the infamous top 100 site in cushendall, my crticism of county site is based on point of Sie all league champions should have been congratulated with photo and summary of facts about campaign.  Especially since people paid full time in admin.  Also a message of disgrace about ref and details as simple as an investigation being lunched.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 03, 2011, 04:43:58 PM
According to his interview in the Irish News on Tuesday it looks like JW is going to employ the 'running game' adopted by Cork in 2002/3.  Will it work for Antrim as it did for Cork?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 03, 2011, 05:01:08 PM
that running game worked well for Cork because the Newtonshandrum lads had played it all their days, the two O'Connors, Tom Kenny and Sean Og where serious athletes.

I do wonder how long any team can sustain that type of tactic

But Jerry Wallace know alot more that I do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 03, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
No chance that cork team were unique in being able to follow that style.  Although some of our striking would suit that style due to many players not being able to strike that well.  Reckon very few teams could carry that style.  Fascinating to see who backroom team is, for he admitted himself isn't familiar with club scene.  Mr2 who are the st galls men we should be hoping to see with Stewart after such impressive campaign.  Saints could provide decent training facilities, no hurlers at present
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 03, 2011, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 03, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
No chance that cork team were unique in being able to follow that style.  Although some of our striking would suit that style due to many players not being able to strike that well.  Reckon very few teams could carry that style.  Fascinating to see who backroom team is, for he admitted himself isn't familiar with club scene.  Mr2 who are the st galls men we should be hoping to see with Stewart after such impressive campaign.  Saints could provide decent training facilities, no hurlers at present

Did I read somewhere that Wallace/Wallis intends to use Jordanstown and then Casement as a base for training?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on November 03, 2011, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 14, 2011, 09:18:40 PM
Micky Johnson taking 21s

No he isn't.
Title: Árd Macha
Post by: drici on November 03, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Trout on November 03, 2011, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 14, 2011, 09:18:40 PM
Micky Johnson taking 21s

No he isn't.

Well he is but it's the Armagh Under 21s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 03, 2011, 05:52:36 PM
Trout & drici correct armagh seniors and obviously 21 as well.  If jerry isn't on his toes the orchard will do one on them.  Poly supposedly used for training with queens u facilities could be option. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 03, 2011, 05:05:04 PM
No chance that cork team were unique in being able to follow that style.  Although some of our striking would suit that style due to many players not being able to strike that well.  Reckon very few teams could carry that style.  Fascinating to see who backroom team is, for he admitted himself isn't familiar with club scene.  Mr2 who are the st galls men we should be hoping to see with Stewart after such impressive campaign.  Saints could provide decent training facilities, no hurlers at present

We wouldn't have too many extras that would, in my opinion be ready for the County team. Karl will as usual and McGourty could also get a run at it. We have a few young lads but way too young for County team. Cj could make the panel if he wanted and Aidso Gallagher would be a big plus on that team if he switched form the county team. Thought he had an excellent season for the club when he played. County football commitments hampered his club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 03, 2011, 07:32:11 PM
Did I just read Dinny Cahill and John Crossey would be part of Mickey Johnstone's backroom team!

Any word on Jerry Wallace backroom team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on November 04, 2011, 04:48:31 AM
Some hurling and scenery pictures from the home of hurling http://youtu.be/9_sFhrdnyeE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 04, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Sambo to manage Antrim minor team and selector for Seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 04, 2011, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on November 04, 2011, 04:48:31 AM
Some hurling and scenery pictures from the home of hurling http://youtu.be/9_sFhrdnyeE

Watched a bit of that and was suddenly struck by something....... :D

Susan Boyle
(http://www.inpho.ie/cache/inpho/a4/a0/24/ba648b18b820e89bdaac68d9ff/INPHO_00031894.jpg)

Niall Patterson
(http://www.faithmouse.com/susan-boyle-cheeky.jpg)

(No offence intended to our Shamrock brethren before anyone starts)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 04, 2011, 11:01:11 AM
On a more serious note though, given the age criteria set down by Jerry Wallace for next years minor squad, can see Rossa especially being annoyed as possibly some of that talented U16 team who move up will be too young to be nominated for trials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on November 04, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Sambo to manage Antrim minor team and selector for Seniors.

How on earth is he going to be able to do the both? Its impossible. I'm all for Sambo taking on the minors, I think he done real good work with them the last time him and woody took it on.

I know for a fact (good source) he is having problems getting selectors, thats why everytime he is asked over the last few weeks he gets all defensive "I'm very close to naming them - I'm speaking to key people blah blah"
On a side note what county names a manager without knowing their backroom team? Its all very fishy and mysterious for my liking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on November 04, 2011, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2011, 11:43:26 AM
Quote from: Onthehill on November 04, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Sambo to manage Antrim minor team and selector for Seniors.

How on earth is he going to be able to do the both? Its impossible. I'm all for Sambo taking on the minors, I think he done real good work with them the last time him and woody took it on.

I know for a fact (good source) he is having problems getting selectors, thats why everytime he is asked over the last few weeks he gets all defensive "I'm very close to naming them - I'm speaking to key people blah blah"
On a side note what county names a manager without knowing their backroom team? Its all very fishy and mysterious for my liking.
My thoughts exactly. A shambles.

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. Someone asked on the guestbook a while ago what his backroom team would be, and the response was that he hadn't picked one yet. I thought this was weird since even most clubs know the backroom team before they select a manager. I would have imagined a having a backroom team would be essential for a manager applying for a county job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 04, 2011, 02:56:41 PM
Aontroim........Niall's a better singer,and Susan's a crap goalkeeper !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 04, 2011, 08:21:26 PM
I would say at least this time sambo has been appointed with less of a cloud.  God only knows who else would come in, ideally it would be Belfast man of some stature.  Names escape me at present, possibly a shite haven't a clue.  Anyone help ?? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2011, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 04, 2011, 08:21:26 PM
I would say at least this time sambo has been appointed with less of a cloud.  God only knows who else would come in, ideally it would be Belfast man of some stature.  Names escape me at present, possibly a shite haven't a clue.  Anyone help ?? 

Jingo ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 04, 2011, 09:45:11 PM
What about Crossey or Mickey Johnston?! Ooops!

Normally the city man is token gesture anyway and without influence - think ger Rogan or Gerard Holden etc - altho maybe that's an indictment of Belfast!

Maybe jerry Wallace /wallis Derry/Londonderry could bring an outsider? Although the last outsider to help did take his managers job!

The whole appointment of a manager without his backroom team is another "only in antrim" moment. It seems the powers that be contacted mr Wallace/wallis/Derry/Londonderry to step in from Dinny rather than the other way around perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 04, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
Might have something there with holden as he enticed sambo to.the gort this year, good for sambo as he would have more of say, either way wallis doesn't know the caliber like he would in cork scene.  Holden would be yes man.  Jingo Mr2 nice idea could he work with sambo after dirty Joe act ?  Jingo can hold head up when managing saffrons. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on November 04, 2011, 11:06:32 PM
Nominations for trials are in, a few good potential additions but some of these players would barely make a good reserve team


A Chara
the following players are requested to attend Casement Park ,no later than 7.15pm, on Wed 9th November with full playing gear.

Michael Dallat   Ballycastle
Malachy Dallas   Ballycastle
Ryan Donnelly   Ballycastle
K B Mc Shane   Ballycastle
Sean Mc Laughlin   Carey Faughs
Cathal Mc Auley   Carey Faughs
Fintan Mc Carry Carey Faughs
Neil O Connell Clooney Gaels
Francis Neeson   Clooney Gaels
Ronan Kearney   Cushendall
Eunan Mc Killop   Cushendall
Dominic Mc Quillan   Cushendun
Nial Mc Auley   Cushendun
Eoin Mc Quillan   Cushendun
Cathair Cunning   Dunloy
Randal Mc Donnell Glenariffe
Mark Nulty      Glenariffe
Kevin Mc Donnell  Glenariffe
Seanan Mc Toal      Glenariffe
Michael Gettins   Glenariffe
Conor Mc Cann   Gortnamona
Martin Ward   Gortnamona
Nial Mc Alea   Sarsfields
Kevin Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Callin Caldwell   Sarsfields
Ciman Rea             Sarsfields
Benny Mc Dermott   Shane O Neills
Kevin Grieve   St Agnes
Declan Mc Larnon   St Agnes
Christopher Mc Kee   St Agnes
Liam Kearns   St Brigids C,mills
Aaron Smylie   St Brigids C,mills
Sean Mc Areavey   St Galls
Aodhan Gallagher   St Galls
Sean Burke           St Galls
Conor Mc Gourty   St Galls
Aonton Mc Caffery   St Galls
Adrian Downey   St Johns
Liam Knocker   St Johns
Conal Morgan   St Johns
Gareth Clarke   St Johns
Cairbre O Caireallain   St Pauls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
The boy natty from dall, where is he, after that count about six.  Let's hope jerry is as good as they say he is.  Surely good few shams to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 12:08:47 AM
How many committed last year saffronog ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 12:48:12 AM
True, least johnny Campbell this year and I'd take the brother, brother went to school with one of glenariffe lads always mentioned him, r mc donnell, very good minor but his real talent goalie, very good basketball but reckon a skill not really needed.  Some sars men maybe, very good 21 campaign. Mc kernan recognised name.  Mr2 with galls maybe slowing at.football and hurlers seeing light at.end of tunnel might there be big push next year for volunteer trophy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 05, 2011, 12:57:23 AM
Quote from: jeremiah on November 04, 2011, 11:06:32 PM
Nominations for trials are in, a few good potential additions but some of these players would barely make a good reserve team


A Chara
the following players are requested to attend Casement Park ,no later than 7.15pm, on Wed 9th November with full playing gear.

Michael Dallat   Ballycastle
Malachy Dallas   Ballycastle
Ryan Donnelly   Ballycastle
K B Mc Shane   Ballycastle
Sean Mc Laughlin   Carey Faughs
Cathal Mc Auley   Carey Faughs
Fintan Mc Carry Carey Faughs
Neil O Connell Clooney Gaels
Francis Neeson   Clooney Gaels
Ronan Kearney   Cushendall
Eunan Mc Killop   Cushendall
Dominic Mc Quillan   Cushendun
Nial Mc Auley   Cushendun
Eoin Mc Quillan   Cushendun
Cathair Cunning   Dunloy
Randal Mc Donnell Glenariffe
Mark Nulty      Glenariffe
Kevin Mc Donnell  Glenariffe
Seanan Mc Toal      Glenariffe
Michael Gettins   Glenariffe
Conor Mc Cann   Gortnamona
Martin Ward   Gortnamona
Nial Mc Alea   Sarsfields
Kevin Mc Kernan Sarsfields
Callin Caldwell   Sarsfields
Ciman Rea             Sarsfields
Benny Mc Dermott   Shane O Neills
Kevin Grieve   St Agnes
Declan Mc Larnon   St Agnes
Christopher Mc Kee   St Agnes
Liam Kearns   St Brigids C,mills
Aaron Smylie   St Brigids C,mills
Sean Mc Areavey   St Galls
Aodhan Gallagher   St Galls
Sean Burke           St Galls
Conor Mc Gourty   St Galls
Aonton Mc Caffery   St Galls
Adrian Downey   St Johns
Liam Knocker   St Johns
Conal Morgan   St Johns
Gareth Clarke   St Johns
Cairbre O Caireallain   St Pauls


Antrim U21 Football Championship Final

Wednesday 9th November,7.30pm Casement Park
Kickhams Creggan v Lamh Dhearg

Does Casement now have two pitches? ::)

Jerry and Cairbre must be Cork pals.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 05, 2011, 07:29:20 AM
Good to see Malachy Dallas let his name go forward, been one of the best forwards about and should have been involved more over the last few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:25:20 AM
Someone of that age and still an inability to hit on both sides I ain't so sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
Is this a squad to find a few new fellas to add to the senior squad? If not, we're in trouble.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 12:08:47 AM
How many committed last year saffronog ?
Chrissy O'Connell, Johnny Campbell, Liam Watson and Eddie McCloskey. There were probably more, this is off the top of my head.

I thought that DD might have been persuaded to make a come back but that's out of the question now that the prodigal son has made a return to the fold. He's been outstanding the last two seasons. How long before the stab-in-the-back Sambo press interview?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 05, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 12:08:47 AM
How many committed last year saffronog ?
Chrissy O'Connell, Johnny Campbell, Liam Watson and Eddie McCloskey. There were probably more, this is off the top of my head.

I thought that DD might have been persuaded to make a come back but that's out of the question now that the prodigal son has made a return to the fold. He's been outstanding the last two seasons. How long before the stab-in-the-back Sambo press interview?

Goalkeeper is a problem alright and I wouldnt be too confident of any of the other goalkeepers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
I agree minder.  Dd and watson have previous with sambo, Chris o connell prone to mistakes and not playing. Enough, though miles ahead of people for trial.  Apart from big mc donnell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
I agree minder.  Dd and watson have previous with sambo, Chris o connell prone to mistakes and not playing. Enough, though miles ahead of people for trial.  Apart from big mc donnell

Saff, are you really from All Saints?

DD i doubt very much would be interested in going back to Antrim, regardless of who's helping or taking the team

As for those lads that you (SIE) mentioned that played for Antrim last year, how many games did they play?

Truth be told its a small number (players) for a team that won and has been playing in so many senior finals over the years don't ya think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
Mr2 am a saints fan but hurling very much my first love, played hurling briefly for south west team but will give away no more, lived in town all my life.  Dd probably not go back due to wrong side of 30 I think, but if sambo hadn't been there would have been tough decision as he is hurling man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2011, 04:40:28 PM
DD hasn't played in a good number of years when sambo wasn't involved. Doubt sambo has much to do with it. He was hurling man last year and the year before too...

Just stirring I suspect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
Sambo and woody reign finished his time with saffrons, and surely you'd agree there aren't many in county better than him.  Apart from the enigma that is magee seems to have dropped of face of the earth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
No one was stirring anything. DD has been head and shoulders above any other keeper in Antrim over the last few years. I was speaking as an Antrim supporter wanting the best for his county. It's a shame, that's all.

He made two outstanding saves in the last twelve months that I'll never forget. One against Dunloy in the Ulster league final last year. P. Richmond through on a one on one and hit a bullet. DD stuck his caman out at point blank range and flicked it over the bar. The other against Cushendall in this year's final. The son of god, sorry, S McNaughton (great hurler btw) struck from 10 yards out and DD somehow managed to put it out for a 65. Brilliant! and a good lad to boot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2011, 05:39:51 PM
There are none in the county better than him.

I'd like to see Kearney in there - it just doesn't seem right having a guy as your county keeper who isn't first choice keeper for his club.(No disrespect intended)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2011, 05:39:51 PM
There are none in the county better than him.

I'd like to see Kearney in there - it just doesn't seem right having a guy as your county keeper who isn't first choice keeper for his club.(No disrespect intended)
Non taken, as it happens I agree with you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 05:54:59 PM
Yeah kearney deserves chance, though personal opinion is he's little awkward , keepers have to he neat and tidy, though his pocs have imptoved.  But still little suspect, always few mistakes.  Proof shown in him playing second fiddle in dall recent year ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2011, 05:59:40 PM
I think that was due to him being away and coming back mid year though so it would have been harsh dropping mcauley (I think it was him?) who was in at the time. I think he's good but maybe not the level of DD / Magee.

Few good keepers coming through in Cushendall - Donaghy and Gillan. Bound to be some others worth looking at too.

Pity we're in the position now where we are maybe struggling a little. Not so long ago we had DD and Magee battling for the no. 1 spot. Both would have walked onto most teams in Ireland. Funny how things go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2011, 05:59:40 PM
I think that was due to him being away and coming back mid year though so it would have been harsh dropping mcauley (I think it was him?) who was in at the time. I think he's good but maybe not the level of DD / Magee.

Few good keepers coming through in Cushendall - Donaghy and Gillan. Bound to be some others worth looking at too.

Pity we're in the position now where we are maybe struggling a little. Not so long ago we had DD and Magee battling for the no. 1 spot. Both would have walked onto most teams in Ireland. Funny how things go.
It was the one position where we had an unarguably class hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 05, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
Liam Watson invited to S.F at end of month with All-Stars.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on November 05, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
IMHO Kearney may not even be the Cushendall keeper in the next season or two, I don't think he is agile enough and to be honest didn't look in great physical shape in the county final.  He has a good poc on him but I think the rest of his game can be dodgy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: Trout on November 05, 2011, 07:40:49 PM
IMHO Kearney may not even be the Cushendall keeper in the next season or two, I don't think he is agile enough and to be honest didn't look in great physical shape in the county final.  He has a good poc on him but I think the rest of his game can be dodgy.
Was he in goals last Sunday? If so, he looked a bit dodgy under the high ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Yeah san fran will help laim, but too good opportunity to miss.  My opinion is wavering little on kearney then if he is to be ousted with ruairi seniors.  Young gillan was eye catching in last 2 u 21 semi games.  Wouldn't wish that position on anyone playing with that lot.  Is there possibility of a little mischief from the neighbours tomorrow Sie.  Hear dall tried a little nonsense, would want any suspensions or injuries. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Yeah san fran will help laim, but too good opportunity to miss.  My opinion is wavering little on kearney then if he is to be ousted with ruairi seniors.  Young gillan was eye catching in last 2 u 21 semi games.  Wouldn't wish that position on anyone playing with that lot.  Is there possibility of a little mischief from the neighbours tomorrow Sie.  Hear dall tried a little nonsense, would want any suspensions or injuries.

Why will it help him? In what why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:32:15 PM
Sorry Mr2 bit.of sarcasm there, was he not one of the boys that misbehaved in America with antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:32:15 PM
Sorry Mr2 bit.of sarcasm there, was he not one of the boys that misbehaved in America with antrim.



On the night before they played New York or getting off the plane hammered?

Needed Extra time in the Bronx that night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
A disgrace, what an example, in fairness very talented but always big cost, very well named.  By his club colleagues I presume.  Galway final tomorrow, hope tv will show, then I will watch the saints against culloville next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Yeah san fran will help laim, but too good opportunity to miss.  My opinion is wavering little on kearney then if he is to be ousted with ruairi seniors.  Young gillan was eye catching in last 2 u 21 semi games.  Wouldn't wish that position on anyone playing with that lot.  Is there possibility of a little mischief from the neighbours tomorrow Sie.  Hear dall tried a little nonsense, would want any suspensions or injuries.
There's no match tomorrow Saffron, it has been postponed to the 13th. There definitely were some questionable tactics deployed last week. They asked a few 'questions' and were given a resounding answer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:32:15 PM
Sorry Mr2 bit.of sarcasm there, was he not one of the boys that misbehaved in America with antrim.



On the night before they played New York or getting off the plane hammered?

Needed Extra time in the Bronx that night
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 05, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Yeah san fran will help laim, but too good opportunity to miss.  My opinion is wavering little on kearney then if he is to be ousted with ruairi seniors.  Young gillan was eye catching in last 2 u 21 semi games.  Wouldn't wish that position on anyone playing with that lot.  Is there possibility of a little mischief from the neighbours tomorrow Sie.  Hear dall tried a little nonsense, would want any suspensions or injuries.
There's no match tomorrow Saffron, it has been postponed to the 13th. There definitely were some questionable tactics deployed last week. They asked a few 'questions' and were given a resounding answer.
Loughgiel weren't exactly innocent either. If Loughgiel were in Cushendalls place they probably would treated the match the same way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 05, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
Yeah san fran will help laim, but too good opportunity to miss.  My opinion is wavering little on kearney then if he is to be ousted with ruairi seniors.  Young gillan was eye catching in last 2 u 21 semi games.  Wouldn't wish that position on anyone playing with that lot.  Is there possibility of a little mischief from the neighbours tomorrow Sie.  Hear dall tried a little nonsense, would want any suspensions or injuries.
There's no match tomorrow Saffron, it has been postponed to the 13th. There definitely were some questionable tactics deployed last week. They asked a few 'questions' and were given a resounding answer.
Loughgiel weren't exactly innocent either. If Loughgiel were in Cushendalls place they probably would treated the match the same way.
We weren't going to lie down and take it if that's what you mean. Also, I've never known a Loughgiel team take the field to cause damage to the opposition. But like I said, if it's dished out it'll be returned with interest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 05, 2011, 10:23:04 PM
Returned with interest
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 05, 2011, 10:23:04 PM
Returned with interest
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Problem?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Unfortunately this time of year these things can happen.  Pity for loughgiel could have been reasonable work out but dall not interested in hurling I heard.  Certainly stronger outfit out but dall beat before took field.  Hope no injuries, etc want a 100% outfit from loughgiel to represent antrim and ulster hurling.  Little silly by dall, but terrible time for scheduling.  Same with this dunloy one.  Are loughgiel training ?  How many notes, where ? Indoor, please not weights.  Unless they play cork winners can't see jerry wallis kind offer of inside knowledge being of any use.  Tg4 and personal visit required by pj and management team.  However need a minibus to take management team down.  Message delivered from mchughs Belfast.  Mtv bring it on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2011, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Unfortunately this time of year these things can happen.  Pity for loughgiel could have been reasonable work out but dall not interested in hurling I heard.  Certainly stronger outfit out but dall beat before took field.  Hope no injuries, etc want a 100% outfit from loughgiel to represent antrim and ulster hurling.  Little silly by dall, but terrible time for scheduling.  Same with this dunloy one.  Are loughgiel training ?  How many notes, where ? Indoor, please not weights.  Unless they play cork winners can't see jerry wallis kind offer of inside knowledge being of any use.  Tg4 and personal visit required by pj and management team.  However need a minibus to take management team down.  Message delivered from mchughs Belfast.  Mtv bring it on.
After deciphering some of your post I can tell you that we have no injury worries. I don't know about the training, I haven't been talking to anyone up there recently. No more on the sideline than any other team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Unfortunately this time of year these things can happen.  Pity for loughgiel could have been reasonable work out but dall not interested in hurling I heard.  Certainly stronger outfit out but dall beat before took field.  Hope no injuries, etc want a 100% outfit from loughgiel to represent antrim and ulster hurling.  Little silly by dall, but terrible time for scheduling.  Same with this dunloy one.  Are loughgiel training ?  How many notes, where ? Indoor, please not weights.  Unless they play cork winners can't see jerry wallis kind offer of inside knowledge being of any use.  Tg4 and personal visit required by pj and management team.  However need a minibus to take management team down.  Message delivered from mchughs Belfast.  Mtv bring it on.

Change your club details please saff. All Saints play in black/white and I've yet to see you post anything about "your clubs" great achievements lately  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Like I said Mr2 that's my club, really all about hurling for me and apart from hosting good feis this year nothing much to shoot about. The smug grin leads me to believe some of the mc courty charm and swagger as rubbed of on you.  More on sideline than most Sie.  Very well supported shams I'll give u that. Some a lit rough round edges as well.  Make mine a pint to another big yin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2011, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Like I said Mr2 that's my club, really all about hurling for me and apart from hosting good feis this year nothing much to shoot about. The smug grin leads me to believe some of the mc courty charm and swagger as rubbed of on you.  More on sideline than most Sie.  Very well supported shams I'll give u that. Some a lit rough round edges as well.  Make mine a pint to another big yin

While I love hurling I'm a clubman first, be it hurling handball, ladies or senior football I'll support the teams we put out. You on the other hand are from Loughgiel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 11:58:17 PM
Hercule poirot is safe yet.  That's north antrim.  Come on down I'll buy u a pint.  Sie reckon there are around 8 people on line, ain't knocking that.  If we had that no of coaches in club we would be flying.  Mr2, I'll be standing with rose in my mouth.  As the saints go marching on on on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 12:09:17 AM
Ok, I''ll call off the blood hounds :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2011, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: saffronog on November 05, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Like I said Mr2 that's my club, really all about hurling for me and apart from hosting good feis this year nothing much to shoot about. The smug grin leads me to believe some of the mc courty charm and swagger as rubbed of on you.  More on sideline than most Sie.  Very well supported shams I'll give u that. Some a lit rough round edges as well.  Make mine a pint to another big yin
Two coaches, one bainisteoir.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 06, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
 Mick o connell, his son, nelson, Casey, boy gillan, babs, 2 physios, probably missed a few, u know not all management, but lot of bodies pardon pun. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2011, 12:21:56 PM
Whatever, it seems to be working.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 06, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
saffronog why is cassleys name not down for the hurling trial?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 06, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
saffronog......... big successful team needs big backup team. I think so anyway !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 06, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
A draw between Creggan and Burt - 0-10 each.

Apparently Burt led throughout but needed a free in injury time to draw.

Creggan had 14 wides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 06, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
A draw between Creggan and Burt - 0-10 each.

Apparently Burt led throughout but needed a free in injury time to draw.

Creggan had 14 wides.

Thought it would be tight, Creggan to win replay Cloot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 06, 2011, 02:48:47 PM
Not sure, I hope.he was.informed.  someone in executive would have told him.  Yeah big clubs need big staff as long as everyone knows place. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 06, 2011, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 06, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
A draw between Creggan and Burt - 0-10 each.

Apparently Burt led throughout but needed a free in injury time to draw.

Creggan had 14 wides.

Thought it would be tight, Creggan to win replay Cloot?

Just giving you a synopsis of what I heard on Highland Radio Milltown.

Burt led 6 2 at half time. At full time, the reporter suggested Burt the stronger team throughout, but there is always a bit of local bias to be factored into these things.

The fact that Creggan came back to lead going into injury time and also that many wides would suggest they probably should do it the next day, but we've heard that before . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 06, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Oulart the ballagh very impressive up until last 15.  Just as well a Mr tyrell wasn't on, I am sure he is feeling cat about that red card now.  Anyword on galway final, fancy the bridge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 06, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Oulart the ballagh very impressive up until last 15.  Just as well a Mr tyrell wasn't on, I am sure he is feeling cat about that red card now.  Anyword on galway final, fancy the bridge

New champions, Gort won by a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 06, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Oulart the ballagh very impressive up until last 15.  Just as well a Mr tyrell wasn't on, I am sure he is feeling cat about that red card now.  Anyword on galway final, fancy the bridge

New champions, Gort won by a point
Lots of surprises around the country this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on November 06, 2011, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 06, 2011, 02:24:12 PM
A draw between Creggan and Burt - 0-10 each.

Apparently Burt led throughout but needed a free in injury time to draw.

Creggan had 14 wides.

Thought it would be tight, Creggan to win replay Cloot?

Based on todays game i cant see creggan winning although the referee let very little go today.
Burt lost their chf with 23mins to 2 yellows
Creggans cf followed 4 mins later - 2 yellows also

Depending on how the replayed game is refereed may determine the outcome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 06, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Who do the winners of Ulster play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 09:42:26 PM
Munster champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 06, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 06, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
Who do the winners of Ulster play?

If you mean who do winners of Creggan v Burt play - winner has to travel to play the British Champions before Christmas I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
British champions???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
British champions???

Surely Loughgiel are British Champions  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
Surely galls wont be ulster ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
Surely galls wont be ulster ;D

Is that football talk?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Either or
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Either or

Have you played before?

I'd say winning an Ulster hurling championship happens after the final whistle in the Antrim Championship, don't you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Either or

Have you played before?

I'd say winning an Ulster hurling championship happens after the final whistle in the Antrim Championship, don't you?
Try telling that to our Cushendall contributors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2011, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
British champions???

Surely Loughgiel are British Champions  ;D
Our Ulster is bigger than their ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Either or

Have you played before?

I'd say winning an Ulster hurling championship happens after the final whistle in the Antrim Championship, don't you?
i have actually. Thanks for asking. All i was wanting to know was about that stupid remark about british champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 06, 2011, 11:32:52 PM
out of curiosity who funds that trip? club? county? ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 07, 2011, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on November 06, 2011, 11:32:52 PM
out of curiosity who funds that trip? club? county? ulster?

A few years back Glenarm had to travel to Birmingham to play in a Quarter-Final.  Think there is a fixed budget from Croke Pk to cover the travel / accomodation costs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on November 07, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to Ciaran Herron who has announced his retirement. An intelligent and dedicated player who owes us nothing. Very humble dude. Has to go back and listen to Joe Brolly now for the next 50 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 07, 2011, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: samboswig on November 07, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to Ciaran Herron who has announced his retirement. An intelligent and dedicated player who owes us nothing. Very humble dude. Has to go back and listen to Joe Brolly now for the next 50 years.

What age is Ciaran?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on November 07, 2011, 12:08:16 PM
31 or 32 maybe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 07, 2011, 12:51:16 PM
30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 07, 2011, 02:01:43 PM
it is the injuries for the guy, take their toll.  that family has served both the county and club very well.  this leinster hurling championship is very exciting.  Gort surprised the all ireland champs to.  Trout looking at a few of your comments, i have to ask are you from the dunclug area.  you seem to be quite the Ra man.  thought we would try and keep politics out of sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 07, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Anyone hear of any movement on the Ray Matthews / Rasharkin case?
I see our friend on the county guestbook talking about pursuing someone's IP address!
God help us all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 07, 2011, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 07, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Anyone hear of any movement on the Ray Matthews / Rasharkin case?
I see our friend on the county guestbook talking about pursuing someone's IP address!
God help us all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 07, 2011, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 07, 2011, 12:51:16 PM
30

30 seems a bit young to be retiring but no one could question the commitment and effort he has put into the cause over the years. Is he still teaching in Ballycastle?

On an unrelated note, thoroughly enjoying the fact that the under 21 football final got the heave-ho for an oul trial match!! Fair play to you, Jerry!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2011, 04:49:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 07, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Anyone hear of any movement on the Ray Matthews / Rasharkin case?
I see our friend on the county guestbook talking about pursuing someone's IP address!
God help us all!
He posted a few days ago that they have no method of obtaining anyone's IP address on the county guestbook. So, if that's out of the question then the only other way they have of getting an IP address is if someone was posting racial or sectarian abuse, which shouldn't be allowed on a moderated forum anyhow, then contacting the pisni,  therefore putting his own job on the line. He is, as someone once said, talking complete horlicks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2011, 10:20:43 PM
(http://www.loughgielshamrocksgac.com/uploads/assets/picture%2020.png)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 07, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
Armoy, parking poor as fields saturated, hope its good day.  Hope pj will be giving hopefuls a major chance.  Also hope dunloy arrive to contest a hurling final and not to take few cheap shots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 07, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
You'd think ulster gaa would make a better effort at advertising, that advert is pretty crap.

Another pointless match, did the ulster leagues start in march??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 07, 2011, 10:47:22 PM
Yeah mega man, mega point.  Fact that started in March it makes. Competition a little bit of farce
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2011, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 07, 2011, 10:43:02 PM
You'd think ulster gaa would make a better effort at advertising, that advert is pretty crap.

Another pointless match, did the ulster leagues start in march??
It was done for the Shamrock's website, good effort for an amateur. The game's only pointless if you aren't involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 07, 2011, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 07, 2011, 10:47:22 PM
Yeah mega man, mega point.  Fact that started in March it makes. Competition a little bit of farce

The games are useful at that time of the year but the conclusion of it runs into all county conjestion. Think we have to live with that reality
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2011, 06:59:47 AM
To be honest the ulster league is just a series of glorified challenge matches. The idea was good on paper but it hasn't been a success in practice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 08:01:53 AM
All depends on whether you win it or not jj. I'll let you know how I feel about it on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 08, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 08:01:53 AM
All depends on whether you win it or not jj. I'll let you know how I feel about it on Sunday.
While its always nice to win a trophy but the competition is devalued by the fact that the final is being played in November...was it November last year?? Alot of clubs treat it for challenge games & the money you get for playing in it.  Then a huge gap between the group stages to the semi finals & then the semi finals to the final. No need for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2011, 09:25:32 AM
Problem with this competition is now that you will normally have a fit team who have been training playing a team who have been idle for a couple of months, makes for a mismatch in anyone's book. Again poor organisation to blame.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on November 08, 2011, 09:31:26 AM
I think its good for the other counties whose leagues aren't that great, I think those teams take a bit more seriously than any antrim teams, it might be the only decent game of hurling they get all year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
Come on guys!

Bit too negative on the Ulster League no?
Scheduling of the final stages cannot be helped - how on earth could it be fiitted in during the year to accomodate all cluba & county teams in Ulster?!

As someone said - its only irrelevant if your team is not in it! Lifting any silverware is always relevant!

The Ulster league provides valuable games more competitive than challenge games (neutral ref) in the early season - and if a club get out of their group then its a good chance to lift some silverware (and ofcourse some money helps!).

I think its a great competition - playing varied teams aside from county leagues.
If people want it to have even more prominance then maybe we need to look at making it the more prominent competition ahead of county leagues?

I think there is merit in this - although county boards might not agree.

Good luck to both teams - but the Shamrocks current match practice will no doubt prevail.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2011, 09:53:11 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
Come on guys!

Bit too negative on the Ulster League no?
Scheduling of the final stages cannot be helped - how on earth could it be fiitted in during the year to accomodate all cluba & county teams in Ulster?!

As someone said - its only irrelevant if your team is not in it! Lifting any silverware is always relevant!

The Ulster league provides valuable games more competitive than challenge games (neutral ref) in the early season - and if a club get out of their group then its a good chance to lift some silverware (and ofcourse some money helps!).

I think its a great competition - playing varied teams aside from county leagues.
If people want it to have even more prominance then maybe we need to look at making it the more prominent competition ahead of county leagues?

I think there is merit in this - although county boards might not agree.

Good luck to both teams - but the Shamrocks current match practice will no doubt prevail.

Is that right?

Is that why the Div1 Football Final happened on the 9th of April this year then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 08, 2011, 10:51:22 AM
Seems there will not be this scheduling problem next year.......

Quote2012 Táin Club Hurling League

Any Club wishing to enter the 2012 Táin Club Hurling League should do so as soon as possible by completing the attached application form.

The competition is for senior teams and is open to all hurling Clubs in Ulster as well as clubs from Leitrim, Sligo, Longford and Louth.  It is proposed to run the group stages off on:

-          Saturday 4th February
-          Saturday 11th February
-          Saturday 18th February
-          Saturday 3rd March
-          Saturday 7th April

The Semi-Finals are scheduled for the weekend of 21st April, while the Finals will be played on the weekend of 28th April.

This competition will be administered by the An Lár Choiste Cheannais na gChomórtaisí (Central Competitions Control Committee) and all fixtures must be honoured.

All clubs are asked to make a special effort to ensure that all fixtures schedules are adhered to, and failure to do so will result in fines being imposed.

Teams who wish to play in this competition must return their registration forms before 4.00pm on Monday 7th November 2011.

http://ulster.gaa.ie/2011/10/20/2012-tain-club-hurling-league/

I reckon a lot of Antrim clubs will have missed the boat entering this for next year as its very early for entry deadlines, and with the renaming of the league there will be a few caught out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 11:08:48 AM
Yes it is true! If there was better scheduling possible for the hurling then obviously it would be followed!

The football is a different case;
- It starts earlier becasue the bogmen dont need the pitches/weather to be as good
- There are more suitable floodlit pitches available
- Teams are less affected by county players availability

Like I said the competition is worthwhile - not perfect - but worthwhile.
Do we really want it scrapped? Even less games?

I would actually rather it took precedence over county leagues!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 08, 2011, 12:06:36 PM
I don't think anyone is looking it scrapped...I would like the final
Played in the summer months...hardly much to ask for?? And a fine for any team that doesn't turn up.....similar to what happens in the Antrim league...would encourage games to be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 08, 2011, 01:03:01 PM
Jeez lad are clubs not getting it tight enough without even more fines

I like the competition, but I think it's should be played to a completion at the outset, our weather in march/April tends to be fairly mild so I think they could get it played of, start the Antrim leagues in May

The problem with it is the three down teams already play in Antrim and for whatever reason the Derry teams attitude towards it is poor at best and so we play the same teams we alway play, plus Derry teams ill equipped to play without county men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
SIE gloat all you want about The Ulster League and enjoy your championship 2 in a row. As the last 30 odd years have shown success doesn't happen too often for you boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 08, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
jesus jones...........but when it does it does. We have walked the walk,do I really have to remind you !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 03:22:57 PM
Nothing to gloat about yet jj. Merely stating a fact. It's a relevant competition if your still in it. You shouldn't get so touchy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 08, 2011, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 03:22:57 PM
Nothing to gloat about yet jj. Merely stating a fact. It's a relevant competition if your still in it. You shouldn't get so touchy.

You were having a dig and don't claim your not. Championship is the only competition that counts. County and Ulster Leagues don't matter and don't come on claiming its great. Ask any player if they care about their league medals.

I'm not one bit worried we lost either league, just championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
Em, no I wasn't. Read it whatever way you like. It's just a bit tedious people repeatedly saying it's not relevant, it's not this, its  not that...blah, blah, blah. There's two sets of players going out to win it on Sunday. I can assure you it's relevant to them.

And I'm not buying into this idea that Dunloy won't be training or up for it. I seem to recall they were more than up for it last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2011, 04:16:32 PM
SIE why not ask some of the Dunloy posters if they have been training this year or last, I have a fair idea what the answer would be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 08, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
Yeh,yeh, ho hum,hohum,snooze,snooze.......don't care about leagues, snooze, snooze........not training, blah blah.......only championship matters...blah, blah......etc. etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 08, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
Yeh,yeh, ho hum,hohum,snooze,snooze.......don't care about leagues, snooze, snooze........not training, blah blah.......only championship matters...blah, blah......etc. etc.

:D
You're some laugh bushwhacker. If any has dared to mention the accomplishments of their team, it hasn't taken you long to respond with the usual big yin reply. At least be consistent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Serious suspensions dished out to rasharkin individuals but more important - all teams above minor suspended for a year! I do think I suggested this on our wee forum! Fair decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 05:42:54 PM
From what I've been told we've only trained twice since the Ulster final. Hardly going hell for leather either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Serious suspensions dished out to rasharkin individuals but more important - all teams above minor suspended for a year! I do think I suggested this on our wee forum! Fair decision.

Does anyone care?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 08, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 08, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
Yeh,yeh, ho hum,hohum,snooze,snooze.......don't care about leagues, snooze, snooze........not training, blah blah.......only championship matters...blah, blah......etc. etc.

:D
You're some laugh bushwhacker. If any has dared to mention the accomplishments of their team, it hasn't taken you long to respond with the usual big yin reply. At least be consistent
Where did he mention it? but since you brought it up..............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Serious suspensions dished out to rasharkin individuals but more important - all teams above minor suspended for a year! I do think I suggested this on our wee forum! Fair decision.

Does anyone care?
Apparently the county do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 05:12:38 PM
Serious suspensions dished out to rasharkin individuals but more important - all teams above minor suspended for a year! I do think I suggested this on our wee forum! Fair decision.

Does anyone care?
Apparently the county do.

County? Made a joke of themselfs. Its ok a Ref is now allowed to hit players!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
He can't hit players - but he is certainly free to defend himself against thugs with no place in the Gaa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
He can't hit players - but he is certainly free to defend himself against thugs with no place in the Gaa.

Should he not be punished for this? Since it was him to strike first and this is A FACT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 08, 2011, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: Enough on November 08, 2011, 06:33:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
He can't hit players - but he is certainly free to defend himself against thugs with no place in the Gaa.

Should he not be punished for this? Since it was him to strike first and this is A FACT.

Catch a grip.  You've been fishing for a friend on other threads too and you won't find one here.  My first post on this topic made out Ray was in the wrong.  I've heard the full and proper story since and your club got what they deserved.  100% Rasharkin's fault and with members like you trying to squirm out of what your club are responsible for it's not surprising it happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2011, 07:05:37 PM
Yip gelvis - county and this forum seem to be united in drawing a line in this one. Take you well deserved punishment rasharkin and don't cry about it - big mirror needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
Enough don't think you have leg to stand on.  Colonel are u dall player, seem very up to date with club.  Shamrocks trained only twice, sounds a little mis leading.  When shams dinner dance or do they wait till end of season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 08, 2011, 07:30:21 PM
26th NOVEMBER 2011.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 10:38:11 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 07:26:54 PM
Enough don't think you have leg to stand on.  Colonel are u dall player, seem very up to date with club.  Shamrocks trained only twice, sounds a little mis leading.  When shams dinner dance or do they wait till end of season.
I have it on very good authority they've trained twice: The Thursday before the Cushendall league game and last Saturday. they've no plans to train again until after the dinner dance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Good authority being from inside panel (management are you)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2011, 11:11:23 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Good authority being from inside panel (management are you)
I'm neither.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:36:10 PM
Have to take your word on that.  Still say more sessions, but possibly full panel only twice.  Will you be attending munster final.  Are you into media equipment Sie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2011, 06:20:52 AM
Quote from: saffronog on November 08, 2011, 11:36:10 PM
Have to take your word on that.  Still say more sessions, but possibly full panel only twice.  Will you be attending munster final.  Are you into media equipment Sie.
I can assure you there were no more sessions. It doesn't take away from the fact that they have been training and playing for longer than Dunloy though. But as we seen last year that doesn't really count for much when we play other. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be at the Munster final. It'll have to be watched on TG4 with a few beers for me. Not really into media equipment Saffron, I can take as a good a sunset pic  as the rest of them though. A bit of a strange question there, unless you're trying to suss out who I am. If so, you're way off the mark.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 09, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
Lol. Loughgiel man who lives in dunloy. Not overly hard to suss
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2011, 05:21:35 PM
I don't live in Dunloy.  ;) Say no more SG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 09, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
Sleeping giant........I know your name too, so why not reveal our identities and see what happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 09, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
Revealing identities would result in being banned from site,so CAREFUL!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2011, 06:59:50 PM
I see it's a fiver in to the match on Sunday. Good value I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 09, 2011, 07:07:18 PM
No chance bushwacker ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 09, 2011, 07:21:53 PM
Sie this recession must've passed you bye. Could be steep enough for load of shite this time a year.  Two things from u here I think, u sense the blood of neighbours and u reckon it could get a little feisty.  Should let ray do it ease him back gently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2011, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 09, 2011, 07:21:53 PM
Sie this recession must've passed you bye. Could be steep enough for load of shite this time a year.  Two things from u here I think, u sense the blood of neighbours and u reckon it could get a little feisty.  Should let ray do it ease him back gently.
I would expect LG to win simply because I think they're the better team, nothing more than that. The vast majority of games between Dunloy and ourselves tend to be tough but not dirty, with the odd exception of course. I hope it's a good day though, I wouldn't want to get boggin after paghlin through them fields from the car to the pitch.

Owen Elliot is down to referee it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on November 09, 2011, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 09, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
Sleeping giant........I know your name too, so why not reveal our identities and see what happens.

Bushwhacker, I have you now, took a while but I've got it. Sie, not hard to figure.   But I don't think true identities would be a way to go on this site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2011, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: wino on November 09, 2011, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 09, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
Sleeping giant........I know your name too, so why not reveal our identities and see what happens.

Bushwhacker, I have you now, took a while but I've got it. Sie, not hard to figure.   But I don't think true identities would be a way to go on this site.
send me a pm of who you think I am and I'll confirm it one way or t'other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Shamrocks to win Ulster HL, without a shadow of a doubt!   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Shamrocks to win Ulster HL, without a shadow of a doubt!   :)
why this??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Shamrocks to win Ulster HL, without a shadow of a doubt!   :)
why this??
Because we aren't in it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 02:52:19 PM
Aha, a few more shackles coming my way courtesy of Rasharkin, happy days! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 10, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Shamrocks to win Ulster HL, without a shadow of a doubt!   :)
why this??
Because we aren't in it!
hahahahaha :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 10, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Jose Parasol, Dungiven were in it and didn't even turn up for their matches in the group stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
First 3 posts on Antrim thread and ya think he's from Dungiven? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2011, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
First 3 posts on Antrim thread and ya think he's from Dungiven? lol
was doubting it myself MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 10, 2011, 08:49:03 PM
Anyword of trail game last nite ???  What is the next step is there a few cuts then another couple trial games ??? If not think its tad mickey mouse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
I didn't hear anything from the trial game saffron Og - but given the names listed I
Imagine it was pathetic. I mean not one guy on the list would make the Dall or shamrocks team never mind a county side! U gotta wonder what's the point? I am all for giving people a shot but that was pointless exercise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 10, 2011, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
I didn't hear anything from the trial game saffron Og - but given the names listed I
Imagine it was pathetic. I mean not one guy on the list would make the Dall or shamrocks team never mind a county side! U gotta wonder what's the point? I am all for giving people a shot but that was pointless exercise.

Even the Cushendall ones?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2011, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
I didn't hear anything from the trial game saffron Og - but given the names listed I
Imagine it was pathetic. I mean not one guy on the list would make the Dall or shamrocks team never mind a county side! U gotta wonder what's the point? I am all for giving people a shot but that was pointless exercise.

Yeah course you're right  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 10, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
By I can be a right pessimistic chap but u take biscuit, considering some on list were from the dall and make their team.  But there are better than them, itself would take ten of them, a gallagher if he went, get shot of about ten of current panel.  Mr2 take it that was sarcasm your last post. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Whoops! Sorry lads I just read my last post back! To be honest I was more focussed on the Belfast men (Altho that doesn't exclude some glens men) and of the Belfast men I am Talkin about the guys not already with county experience (eg) cj.

So yes - my first post was an unitended blanket tirade but I think you know what I mean now?

Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each? Come on! I think we would have been alerted to this by now if so!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly.  No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward.

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 11, 2011, 08:27:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
First 3 posts on Antrim thread and ya think he's from Dungiven? lol

I was warned about you by others on GAA Board, it seems you're a bit of a "whistle blower" in more ways than one.  I'll be watching you for sure!  Although Dungiven, born and bred in Antrim.  You're sounding like a teacher in some regards.

With regard to the Senior trials, I heard only 24 out of 50 turned up.  I suppose the county have to be seen to be casting the net.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
4father

Hate to be negative but not one of the players you mentioned is up to this standard, genuine hurlers they may be but not county standard. Dont get me wrong I applaud Wallace for looking around in the county just saying that the ones you have mentioned there are not up to nor will the be to that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 11, 2011, 10:17:14 AM
I disagree Nag.

I think its vitally important that county management "show" a really desire to look at as many players as possible. You have to have trials. No one can tell where the next diamond in the rough will be found. Players mature at different times and I'm sure GW will be looking to give some the chance to step up. We should be open minded
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
Skull that's fine just expressing my opinion, my point is that the guys mentioned 8 out of the 9 are aged 25 + and having watched them means they would be unsuitable to be county hurlers at present.

By all means spread the net wide and catch as many as we can and not in a lip service way, but statistically the chances of developing a 16 - 17 - 18 year old into a better standard or hurler is higher than trying to develop a 25 yr old.

I am open minded but am looking at it from a resource point of view, we are limited financially so the best return would be to develop players who can play for the next ten years not the next two to three max.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
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Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly.  No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward.

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
imo Magill would make it for sure,  reason being, i believe Paddy Richmond is finished at county level, Magill is quite physical and should be given a chance at edge of square, i think if you had him tuned in, and young sambo and maybe Watson either side, would have making of a very cabable full forward line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
watched oisins against shamrocks on our pitch and there were few i would try and should make panel maybe even 1st 15.  very one sided game though. glenariffe very poor.  Tosh is maybe now over the hill and he didn't play that nite as he had retired the goalie said.  shamrocks young campbell, but i suppose these guys will try out later and surely will be in management eyes anyway.  possibly mcgarry in the corner but he is light, though not as light as few boys with panel at present.  Player of tosh age (35) ?? over the hill for county level.  defo some st galls men as watched them 3 times this year.  Magill if there was no messing with him (he likes to sneak off for this and that)  needs alot of hurling.  duffin no.  we guy panzer, gillan from cushendall, the u 21 keeper.  My only hope is there are a serious of matches now after first trial and slowly but steadily many of current panel are introduced to this.  for some of them are not up to the standard.  Magill gone gone, same age as tosh only no were near as fit or fast.  Dunloy from what i had seen won't be contributing much.  Unless Magee is back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
watched oisins against shamrocks on our pitch and there were few i would try and should make panel maybe even 1st 15.  very one sided game though. glenariffe very poor.  Tosh is maybe now over the hill and he didn't play that nite as he had retired the goalie said.  shamrocks young campbell, but i suppose these guys will try out later and surely will be in management eyes anyway.  possibly mcgarry in the corner but he is light, though not as light as few boys with panel at present.  Player of tosh age (35) ?? over the hill for county level.  defo some st galls men as watched them 3 times this year.  Magill if there was no messing with him (he likes to sneak off for this and that)  needs alot of hurling.  duffin no.  we guy panzer, gillan from cushendall, the u 21 keeper.  My only hope is there are a serious of matches now after first trial and slowly but steadily many of current panel are introduced to this.  for some of them are not up to the standard.  Magill gone gone, same age as tosh only no were near as fit or fast.  Dunloy from what i had seen won't be contributing much.  Unless Magee is back.
Wot????? This doesn't make sense....Magill is gone gone??? He is only about 28... Tosh is about 33/34
Or Magill if he wasnt messing???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Tosh is 33.

QuoteMagill gone gone, same age as tosh only no were near as fit or fast
Magill who?? Michael Magill 28/29 or so. Paddy Magill not even close to 33.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Tosh is 33.

QuoteMagill gone gone, same age as tosh only no were near as fit or fast
Magill who?? Michael Magill 28/29 or so. Paddy Magill not even close to 33.
If its Paddy McGill...then he's about 24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Tosh is 33.

QuoteMagill gone gone, same age as tosh only no were near as fit or fast
Magill who?? Michael Magill 28/29 or so. Paddy Magill not even close to 33.
If its Paddy McGill...then he's about 24

Tosh is finished for Glenariffe so it's a moot point. Gettens is the only one of our players I would have up, he has improved massively over the last two years, both physically and hurling wise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2011, 02:37:34 PM
P Magil is younger yeah but hasnt or doesnt want to committ to it.
M Magil a couple of years ago maybe but not now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly. No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on November 11, 2011, 06:21:29 PM
Magill, from Cushendall is good enough if he commits. Magill from tir na nog not even close anymore.  Loughgiel have good players and have a number of certs. Ding, neilly, scully, DD all good enough as well but they have put in a big club effort and it remains to be seen. Some of the younger lads could push for a place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly. No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.
+1   hahaha   ahhhhh god thats funny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 06:45:20 PM
Ks decent player but well.down pecking order
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2011, 06:55:37 PM
KS is one of better players in the county. Definite first 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
Quote from: wino on November 11, 2011, 06:21:29 PM
Magill, from Cushendall is good enough if he commits. Magill from tir na nog not even close anymore.  Loughgiel have good players and have a number of certs. Ding, neilly, scully, DD all good enough as well but they have put in a big club effort and it remains to be seen. Some of the younger lads could push for a place.

Ding Gillan would be 34 so I doubt he will get a call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 11, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
Quote from: wino on November 11, 2011, 06:21:29 PM
Magill, from Cushendall is good enough if he commits. Magill from tir na nog not even close anymore.  Loughgiel have good players and have a number of certs. Ding, neilly, scully, DD all good enough as well but they have put in a big club effort and it remains to be seen. Some of the younger lads could push for a place.

Ding Gillan would be 34 so I doubt he will get a call.

i dont think he was great in his prime. martin scullion as a back would be worth having about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2011, 07:24:23 PM
A ballymena/south west  man come Loughgiel man talking shite as usual! Karl Stewart would get on any team in the county but doubt he'd bother with the bodies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2011, 07:26:08 PM
Martin Scullion looked good in championship but I don't think he would make a breakthrough to the half back line. McAuley and Graffin too strong and rumours of McManus being played CHB next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 11, 2011, 07:35:04 PM
Karl Stewart is in my top 3 hurlers in Antrim. Would have to think who to put in there along with him ???....A Graffin and A Nother

If there was a players player  of the year he'd be the favourite I reckon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 07:57:56 PM
Mr2 when I say down pecking order don't think he would be in my top 5 in ulster but a very valued member of first 15, but not best in ulster.  Ding gillan no, scullion don't think so either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 07:57:56 PM
Mr2 when I say down pecking order don't think he would be in my top 5 in ulster but a very valued member of first 15, but not best in ulster.  Ding gillan no, scullion don't think so either.

To progress your point you would then have to name your top 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
Well Watson most talented but can be looney tune, mc manus then, fully fit Campbell,  braniff, Clarke,  have to say imo would be more valuable than Ks.  Have u a top 5 yourself kinder.  All based on opinions of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
Well Watson most talented but can be looney tune, mc manus then, fully fit Campbell,  braniff, Clarke,  have to say imo would be more valuable than Ks.  Have u a top 5 yourself kinder.  All based on opinions of course.

Braniff and Clarke? Ten years ago maybe. I am not sure I have a top five but I will try and work on it over the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:32:17 PM
Well keepers last a little longer, braniff, always supreme athlete its simply down that have slipped past 10 years.  I wonder of the footy wasn't on could u establish a list sooner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:32:17 PM
Well keepers last a little longer, braniff, always supreme athlete its simply down that have slipped past 10 years.  I wonder of the footy wasn't on could u establish a list sooner.

That's an interesting but irrelevant question. It's not that Down have slipped, Braniff has been riddled with injuries and I am not sure how often you would have seen him playing as Portaferry matches would clash with All Saints games of a Sunday. I would also guess you haven't seen too many Down games in the last couple of years, of course I could be totally wrong.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:42:08 PM
I am sure not first time u have been wrong, I'd say I have seen as many as u.  On the night shift here minder what's score in Estonia.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 08:42:08 PM
I am sure not first time u have been wrong, I'd say I have seen as many as u.  On the night shift here minder what's score in Estonia.

You obviously have access to the Internet so check it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Of course its all only a matter of opinion, some of older members in this think there the god father or something :D    Id have Mc Manus SMcNaughton A Graffin J Campbell Liam Watson Cormac Donnelly N McA all ahead of him and that's of top of head, say theres more to, decent hurler, no doubt, but not the best or near it,  IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Of course its all only a matter of opinion, some of older members in this think there the god father or something :D    Id have Mc Manus SMcNaughton A Graffin J Campbell Liam Watson Cormac Donnelly N McA all ahead of him and that's of top of head, say theres more to, decent hurler, no doubt, but not the best or near it,  IMO

Well I suppose the only way you can judge it is consistency at inter county level, not what they might do, and Stewart has been more consistent than any of them bar Mc Manus and there isn't much in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Of course its all only a matter of opinion, some of older members in this think there the god father or something :D    Id have Mc Manus SMcNaughton A Graffin J Campbell Liam Watson Cormac Donnelly N McA all ahead of him and that's of top of head, say theres more to, decent hurler, no doubt, but not the best or near it,  IMO

Well I suppose the only way you can judge it is consistency at inter county level, not what they might do, and Stewart has been more consistent than any of them bar Mc Manus and there isn't much in it.
And how would you come up with that??   Cause he fits frees for the county??   yet to see him turn in a big game from play for county,  out of them all id say graffin is most consistent. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Of course its all only a matter of opinion, some of older members in this think there the god father or something :D    Id have Mc Manus SMcNaughton A Graffin J Campbell Liam Watson Cormac Donnelly N McA all ahead of him and that's of top of head, say theres more to, decent hurler, no doubt, but not the best or near it,  IMO

Well I suppose the only way you can judge it is consistency at inter county level, not what they might do, and Stewart has been more consistent than any of them bar Mc Manus and there isn't much in it.
And how would you come up with that??   Cause he fits frees for the county??   yet to see him turn in a big game from play for county,  out of them all id say graffin is most consistent.

When did McManus stop hitting the frees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
when he turned and asked another player to hit one against Dublin ;D    think it verys.   Karl and Neil hit fair share each
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 09:17:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
when he turned and asked another player to hit one against Dublin ;D    think it verys.   Karl and Neil hit fair share each
I think you'll find your clubmate who told Shane to hit the free that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
I think you will find it wasnt!!   horses mouth and all that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
I think you will find it wasnt!!   horses mouth and all that ;)
Well I'll believe my horses mouth ; )
Yours must have had a bet on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:26:18 PM
My horse was the lad who ended up hitting it, why dont you ask him who called him over??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:27:45 PM
No odds anyway, wouldn't mind them turning out a few more preformaces like that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:26:18 PM
My horse was the lad who ended up hitting it, why dont you ask him who called him over??
It was Shane who hit the equaliser. Karl Stewart hit the winner. But I agree it was a rare good day at Croke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 11, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 09:26:18 PM
My horse was the lad who ended up hitting it, why dont you ask him who called him over??
It was Shane who hit the equaliser. Karl Stewart hit the winner. But I agree it was a rare good day at Croke.
     

I know who hit the equaliser ;D     very good day,  think were well capable of them days.       
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 11, 2011, 09:46:18 PM
Karl is a cracking player, motm twice against us, but alot of good hurlers in ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Laim dunne new wexford manager, reckon club team could go all the way to tommy Moore, could leave county little behind.  Cunningham in same boat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on November 11, 2011, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 11, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Laim dunne new wexford manager, reckon club team could go all the way to tommy Moore, could leave county little behind.  Cunningham in same boat.

What relevance does any of that have to Antrim hurling ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 11, 2011, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly. No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.

He's been the best hurler in Ulster for a few years now without a doubt.  Best performer.  Never fails to turn up when others do.  Are there more talented hurlers? Yes, Watson being one but he can't be counted as the current best hurler in Ulster because he hasn't been there at the highest standard recently (I hope he will next year, I heard he wants to give it a lash).

You Shamrock men are very easily annoyed.  I'd have been getting all sorts of +1's had I mentioned a Loughguile man as best hurler in Ulster. 

You can't argue with Stewarty's performances this last few years.  Think from when Antrim beat Dublin and from that (aside from the sending off incident).  He was the best player on the pitch v Dunloy on both occasions.  I think you are underestimating him lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 12:25:03 AM
dick heads springs to mind! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
U said it Mr2.  Trout probably a little more relevance than sinn fein administering British rule.  Mr2 p putting friendships aside Neil mc manus has been the star man this past no of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 01:58:21 AM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly. No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.

He's been the best hurler in Ulster for a few years now without a doubt.  Best performer.  Never fails to turn up when others do.  Are there more talented hurlers? Yes, Watson being one but he can't be counted as the current best hurler in Ulster because he hasn't been there at the highest standard recently (I hope he will next year, I heard he wants to give it a lash).

You Shamrock men are very easily annoyed.  I'd have been getting all sorts of +1's had I mentioned a Loughguile man as best hurler in Ulster. 

You can't argue with Stewarty's performances this last few years.  Think from when Antrim beat Dublin and from that (aside from the sending off incident).  He was the best player on the pitch v Dunloy on both occasions.  I think you are underestimating him lads.
Not annoyed at all, knowone said he wasnt a good hurler,  he just isnt the best in Ulster. IMO   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 02:02:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 12:25:03 AM
dick heads springs to mind! :P
MR2 you seem to be just as big a dick head as Ive came across on this site,   i think its called a discussion site,  Does this mean if you don't agree with you, who has an opinion on everything, that your a dick head?? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 11:52:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?

Probably not 3-5 but there's always a superstar in every team.

Gort - Young McClean and Panzer McCann junior (was always a very very cpable GK)
St Johns - Well already have Simon McCrory, McFall.  Gareth Clarke is a half decent hurler and i'm sure there's merit in seeing if they have any other younger players coming through with potential.
St Agnes - I'll give you that, of the players that went to the trial, i don't think any of them would be real contenders to make the panel.
Oisíns - Have good experience in Division 1 now for a number of years, Tosh would still be capable i'd say and there's a few i've seen playing would be up to the pace - at least making the panel.
Sarsfields - Another few years and you'll know two lads in particular - Niall McKenna and Gary Lennon - two prospects.
Tir na nog - Magill could play no problem, as could Colm Duffin i'd say.
St Galls - Gaga, Mackers, big Anton could if he trimmed up possibly. No doubt one or two younger stars and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.

He's been the best hurler in Ulster for a few years now without a doubt.  Best performer.  Never fails to turn up when others do.  Are there more talented hurlers? Yes, Watson being one but he can't be counted as the current best hurler in Ulster because he hasn't been there at the highest standard recently (I hope he will next year, I heard he wants to give it a lash).

You Shamrock men are very easily annoyed.  I'd have been getting all sorts of +1's had I mentioned a Loughguile man as best hurler in Ulster. 

You can't argue with Stewarty's performances this last few years.  Think from when Antrim beat Dublin and from that (aside from the sending off incident).  He was the best player on the pitch v Dunloy on both occasions.  I think you are underestimating him lads.
What is your classification of 'recent'?

Where, oh where, did anyone on the last few pages underestimate  KS? Erm, nowhere. I think you'll find that what was said is that he is a decent hurler. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in no way is that a put down.

A bit touchy and presumptuous there 4father.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 02:12:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 12:25:03 AM
dick heads springs to mind! :P
Still licking yer wounds MR2? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 02:20:50 AM
People are always going to have a differing opinion on 'who's the best'. I've seen a couple of performances in the last 12 months from Barney that would be hard to beat. But, if I'm honest, I would be hard pushed to see past SmcN performance in this years county final. I don't know if he's the best in ulster, but if he keeps his head on his shoulders he  has the potential to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 02:24:14 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 02:02:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 12:25:03 AM
dick heads springs to mind! :P
MR2 you seem to be just as big a dick head as Ive came across on this site,   i think its called a discussion site,  Does this mean if you don't agree with you, who has an opinion on everything, that your a dick head?? ???
It looks like he's had one or two the night SG. Plus it's a wee bit past his bedtime, he is getting on a bit now ya know.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Trout on November 12, 2011, 07:15:03 AM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
U said it Mr2.  Trout probably a little more relevance than sinn fein administering British rule.  Mr2 p putting friendships aside Neil mc manus has been the star man this past no of years.

Were did I mention politics on this site, are you as stupid as you come across or is it part of your act?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 12, 2011, 07:36:53 AM
I thought the discussion on who is the best in Ulster could have been a good debate. Karl Stewart would be up there with the best. How about picking an Ulster first 15? I'd go:
1. Graham Clarke
2. A Graffin
3. C Donnelly
4. N Mc Auley
5. J Campbell
6. L Hinphey
7. M Scullion
8. K Stewart
9. K Hinphey
10. G Johnson
11. N Mc Manus
12. P Shiels
13. L Watson
14. P Braniff
15. S Mc Naughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
Trout referring to caption on your footer.  Interesting 15, Jesus derry men so deserve mention and had forgot about shields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:36:24 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2011, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 11, 2011, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 10, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
Do Gort / St Agnes / St johns / oisins / sarsfields / Tir na nog / Carey / cushendun really have 3-5 players of county standard each?
... and of course they already have the best hurler in Ulster in Karl Steward

To call it a waste of time is a bit harsh.  As you said, everyone deserves an opportunity.
Really? He's decent but not the best hurler in ulster.
+1   hahaha   ahhhhh god thats funny

Well, i'd say that this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of Karl being the best.  That;s 'where oh where'!

Yes I watched SmcN's dazzling county final performance.  I'm talking about consistency though.  Karl has never failed to show up is what I'm saying and has performed at a very high level for a number of years now.  By recent, I mean  last 2-3 years including this one (which Neil McManus didn't get to finish unfortunately for him).  Has there been anyone by far better than Karl in this last 2-3 years between county level and club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
I don't think that constitutes putting him down. I believe SG is disagreeing with you as I did, about him being the best in Ulster. He did say he was a good hurler. No one is disputing that. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 11:12:43 AM
If it's consistency for club and county how about Johnny Campbell? Who has been doing it for both Club and county  for the best part of ten years. Very consistent performer who"s still playing well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
Forgot, he's a Loughguile man..  ;D

Yes Johnny has been playing great as has Barney, Hippy and a few others.  Just think Karl has been a cut above the rest,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
Finally
It should be noted by the Gaels of Antrim that the following players, nominated by their Clubs, failed to attend or offer an apology for their absence

Martin McErlaine   Armoy
Cathal McAuley     Carey Faughs
Fintan McCarry      Carey Faughs
Neil 0'Connell        Clooney Gaels
Eoin McQuillan      Cushendun
Kevin McKernan    Sarsfields
Liam Kearns          St Brigids C'mills
Aaron Smylie         St Brigids C'mills
Sean McAreavey   St Galls
Sean Burke            St Galls
Conor McGourty    St Galls
Michael Magill        Tir Na Nog
　
Diarmuid de Bhallis
Bainisteoir Foirne 2012

ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 12, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
I don't think that constitutes putting him down. I believe SG is disagreeing with you as I did, about him being the best in Ulster. He did say he was a good hurler. No one is disputing that.

I don't get why some stick up for the stupid comments of their clubmates
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on November 12, 2011, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
Finally
It should be noted by the Gaels of Antrim that the following players, nominated by their Clubs, failed to attend or offer an apology for their absence

Martin McErlaine   Armoy
Cathal McAuley     Carey Faughs
Fintan McCarry      Carey Faughs
Neil 0'Connell        Clooney Gaels
Eoin McQuillan      Cushendun
Kevin McKernan    Sarsfields
Liam Kearns          St Brigids C'mills
Aaron Smylie         St Brigids C'mills
Sean McAreavey   St Galls
Sean Burke            St Galls
Conor McGourty    St Galls
Michael Magill        Tir Na Nog
　
Diarmuid de Bhallis
Bainisteoir Foirne 2012

ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!

You are a disgrace posting peoples names up in an anonymous internet forum in order to somehow name and shame them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 12, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
I don't think that constitutes putting him down. I believe SG is disagreeing with you as I did, about him being the best in Ulster. He did say he was a good hurler. No one is disputing that.

I don't get why some stick up for the stupid comments of their clubmates

Completely agree, maybe its just a Loughguile thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!

Wouldn't call it a disgrace, there's worse things in the world to call a disgrace.  They possibly should have passed an apology but are certainly not obliged to.  Posting their names (when your name doesn't exist) calling lads a disgrace is shameful and cowardly though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 12:33:09 PM
This is a stupid topic in fairness, saying one guy over another (top 5) is bette,r will always draw in the ones who believe their players are better than everyone elses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on November 12, 2011, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!

Wouldn't call it a disgrace, there's worse things in the world to call a disgrace.  They possibly should have passed an apology but are certainly not obliged to.  Posting their names (when your name doesn't exist) calling lads a disgrace is shameful and cowardly though.

Save your outrage for the county board - that list of names is from the county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 12, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
I don't think that constitutes putting him down. I believe SG is disagreeing with you as I did, about him being the best in Ulster. He did say he was a good hurler. No one is disputing that.

I don't get why some stick up for the stupid comments of their clubmates

Completely agree, maybe its just a Loughguile thing.
Stupid like the one above do you mean?

4father made something out of nothing. Simple as.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on November 12, 2011, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!

Wouldn't call it a disgrace, there's worse things in the world to call a disgrace.  They possibly should have passed an apology but are certainly not obliged to.  Posting their names (when your name doesn't exist) calling lads a disgrace is shameful and cowardly though.

Save your outrage for the county board - that list of names is from the county website

The poster wrote ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!.  So it is shameful and cowardly to call players absolute disgraces without manners.  The county website/board/Jerry Wallace should not have put that in any report either.  Looks bad and is bad.

Regarding the Karl Stewart thing, it was simply an opinion that I tried to justify and I would stand over it.  There are many good hurlers in Antrim and indeed Ulster and there would be very little between a lot of them.  I made nothing out of nothing, i expressed an opinion, a Loughguile man patronised that opinion, another Loughguile man didn't see any belittling of a player and I did so I wrote about it - hardly made something out of nothing.

Ultrafcukin sensitive this morning lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on November 12, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
How about top 15, in no real order.  DD, graffin, hippy, neilly, jc, m scullion, ding, n mc Auley, b mc Auley, d mc Naughton, l Watson, k Stewart,  e mc closkey, n mc manus, s mc Naughton.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 12, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
Maybe the guys that didn't turn up for the trial were just facing the fact that they hadn't a hope in hell of making the county team.
Or maybe some  are going to concentrate on football .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
Yeah don't think those names are great loss, would be better of not published. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:17:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2011, 07:36:53 AM
I thought the discussion on who is the best in Ulster could have been a good debate. Karl Stewart would be up there with the best. How about picking an Ulster first 15? I'd go:
1. Graham Clarke
2. A Graffin
3. C Donnelly
4. N Mc Auley
5. J Campbell
6. L Hinphey
7. M Scullion
8. K Stewart
9. K Hinphey
10. G Johnson
11. N Mc Manus
12. P Shiels
13. L Watson
14. P Braniff
15. S Mc Naughton
+1 jj.    very good set up right there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: wino on November 12, 2011, 02:53:05 PM
How about top 15, in no real order.  DD, graffin, hippy, neilly, jc, m scullion, ding, n mc Auley, b mc Auley, d mc Naughton, l Watson, k Stewart,  e mc closkey, n mc manus, s mc Naughton.
LOL  now wino come on,  plz 8 clubmates in there, its a pick of Ulster not Antrim mate ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'dickheads'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'd**kheads'.

Who did i call a dick head?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'd**kheads'.

Who did i call a dick head?
Well, by the look of it, all Shamrocks supporters. Nothing new in that I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'd**kheads'.

Who did i call a dick head?
Well, by the look of it, all Shamrocks supporters. Nothing new in that I suppose.

A wee bit of paranoia possibly setting in up there in the sticks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'd**kheads'.

Who did i call a dick head?
Well, by the look of it, all Shamrocks supporters. Nothing new in that I suppose.

A wee bit of paranoia possibly setting in up there in the sticks.
No paranoia here. That's how it came across. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me as to who you were referring to as 'dick heads'?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
Creditability is gone!!  **k no!!!  Forgot you run the show Mr2,   just no say unless it agrees with you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
Creditability is gone!!  **k no!!!  Forgot you run the show Mr2,   just no say unless it agrees with you

Where did i say that i ran the show?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 04:42:18 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.

Agree with Milltown, you're talking out of your hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 05:53:25 PM
Oh dear city country relations deteriorate even further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 06:20:09 PM
Any non Loughgiel posters wish to agree with the posts on KS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:26:28 PM
Listen he is v good player but there are better,  has lots of experience and is major player for saffrons.  A god obviously in milltown.  Probably best dual player in ulster ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Any chance of you answering my question MR2? Very, very touchy up around the bog this weather.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 06:37:20 PM
I didn't bring his name up! But when someone says he's  just a decent hurler then i can post he's better than decent. Makes me wonder about peoples views on the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:39:15 PM
No, I meant who specifically were you calling dickheads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Ok, whatever you say mate.  'aaaaaaahhh god that's funny' says a bit more than that though.
Wasnt for one second "saying a bit more than that"  i was laughing that anyone would make out that KS is the best in Ulster,   still stand by my statement that he isnt near the best in Ulster.  Again this is a GAA Discussion board, and always going to be other ways of loooking at things.

You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone.

That's my view ;)
A bit like you after calling people 'd**kheads'.

Who did i call a dick head?
Well, by the look of it, all Shamrocks supporters. Nothing new in that I suppose.

A wee bit of paranoia possibly setting in up there in the sticks.
No paranoia here. That's how it came across. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me as to who you were referring to as 'dick heads'?

Where do I start?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:42:58 PM
Why don't you just answer it then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
No place like home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
No place like home

Where would that be? Ballymena, South West, or Loughgiel? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 06:46:02 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:26:28 PM
Listen he is v good player but there are better,  has lots of experience and is major player for saffrons.  A god obviously in milltown.  Probably best dual player in ulster ???
AGREED ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:46:28 PM
Or is it the case that if someone disagrees with your point of view MR2  they're a d**khead? If so, that kind of diminishes any sort kudos you might have. But that's slight enough as it is as you admitted betting against your own to make a quick buck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if you'd money on Crossmaglen a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 06:55:11 PM
The town Mr2, thought you'd stopped fishing.  Wish you'd answer the shams, seem to be getting a little heat today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 06:46:28 PM
Or is it the case that if someone disagrees with your point of view MR2  they're a d**khead? If so, that kind of diminishes any sort kudos you might have. But that's slight enough as it is as you admitted betting against your own to make a quick buck.

Where are you going with this? Dog with a boner, oh sorry a bone ;)

Oh I've never bet against my club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
You bet against your county, who some of your club mates play for.

Who are you calling d**kheads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
SIE, you're boring the fuckin tits off me here.  What's your point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 07:10:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
You bet against your county, who some of your club mates play for.

Who are you calling d**kheads?

Not that day ;)

(http://blogs.psychcentral.com/coming-out-crazy/files/2010/06/dog-bone2.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
Who was loughgiel no 3 before n mcgarry he started final as young up and coming was unfairly made scapegoat and has since disappeared.  Boy could hurl, I assume he isn't even on panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people dickheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 07:35:54 PM
Another informative post 4father. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Another bog standard, unintelligent retort from you 4father. Go eat your chips now, you should feel happy about yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
And the one thing we all agree on is that KS is a good hurler.

Anyway, enough of this shite.

Shamrocks by 8 tomorrow.      ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Another bog standard, unintelligent retort from you 4father. Go eat your chips now, you should feel happy about yourself.

So your posts are intelligent?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on November 12, 2011, 08:13:38 PM
ks best in ulster,  no chance, he  would make the best 15. Liam Watson has to be close, as does Shane mc Naughton.  B mc Auley, m scullion and a graffin would also be in top 5 going on this years performances.
Shamrocks by 10+ tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Another bog standard, unintelligent retort from you 4father. Go eat your chips now, you should feel happy about yourself.

So your posts are intelligent?  ;D
Yes.

You keep making sexual references in your posts. You're showing us who really is sexually frustrated.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
100% right SIE.  The Milltown guy can act with impunity on this forum.  It seems he and a few others here can say what they wish, yet if others have a different or conflicting view, they get shafted. As I said earlier, he's a "whistle blower" in more ways than one!!!!!!!!!  I would watch my back if I were u SIE  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 08:49:25 PM
I've nothing to hide Jose. Besides, the loughgiel people who read this forum either know or have a fair idea who I am. I've no problem with that at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 08:52:32 PM
Jose u seem like a bit of a fire starter to me, seem to be a lot of alter egos on this site wouldn't u say gentlemen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
Going to hit the town, slemish is buzzing tonite before the posse heads to healy park.  Oh when d saints go marching on.  As its weekend relax ladies and put the handbags away.  Might even hit da grouse and give the opposite sex a treat. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 08:52:32 PM
Jose u seem like a bit of a fire starter to me, seem to be a lot of alter egos on this site wouldn't u say gentlemen.
Just speaking my mind SOg. I am all for transparency and freedom of speech, can others say the same though?

Back again then with a new name I see?  (The over use of exclamation marks give it away amongst many other things).

Best not giving this plonker the attention he craves.

To finish off about Karl, I think that he's been the best in Ulster for the last 2 if not 3 years.  I don't think he has the most ability or is the most talented by any stretch but just my opinion.  If I had to concede, it would only involve relegating him to the top 3, again just an opinion.  Good luck in the All Ireland Loughguile, believe it or not, i'll be down watching and supporting yiz.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 09:14:59 PM
Notice any similarities?
Clampit!

Quote from: Bog Ash Camam on October 23, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
I said 15 points before the game
And where did you say Milltown??????????   I said it on here, "Shamrocks by at least 7" well didn't I!!!!!!!!

Not like you to be siding with Loughgiel, have you fallen out with all your Dunloy friends!!!  ;) ;D

Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:24:35 AM
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE - no manners at all!

Wouldn't call it a disgrace, there's worse things in the world to call a disgrace.  They possibly should have passed an apology but are certainly not obliged to.  Posting their names (when your name doesn't exist) calling lads a disgrace is shameful and cowardly though.
And does your name exist????  "They were certainly not obliged to do so", so you are condoning their bad manners.  A man travels the length of the country to come and see them and they cannot inform him of their non attendance, I ASK YOU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2011, 09:38:04 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
Who was loughgiel no 3 before n mcgarry he started final as young up and coming was unfairly made scapegoat and has since disappeared.  Boy could hurl, I assume he isn't even on panel.
Kevin Connelly    AKA  Whitey.   Was a serious hurler,  and yes it was a joke the way he was treated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 12, 2011, 09:59:45 PM
I would say that chap must be on to double figures now when it comes to usernames.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 10:30:05 PM
Who is that ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
Impressed is not a word that would spring to mind when reading your posts - that's for sure ;D

MR give you detention one day? Not pay you enough attention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
Impressed is not a word that would spring to mind when reading your posts - that's for sure ;D

MR give you detention one day? Not pay you enough attention?
Milltown does not pay attention to anyone, he only likes to be the "centre of attention", clearly that is obvious?  But sure, wouldn't you be one of his cronies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
Impressed is not a word that would spring to mind when reading your posts - that's for sure ;D

MR give you detention one day? Not pay you enough attention?
Milltown does not pay attention to anyone, he only likes to be the "centre of attention", clearly that is obvious?  But sure, wouldn't you be one of his cronies!

Ha, as per most on here I'm no cronie of anyone's and have no idea/care who most people are. I'm just commenting regarding the recurring monotony of whoever / whatever you are and your fixation with MR. He's clearly made an impression on you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 12, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
Think we should just treat him as if he isn't there and not reply anymore to him.  He'll get bored not getting replies and attention, its what he feeds on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 01:12:44 AM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: Jose Parasol on November 12, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 12, 2011, 08:52:32 PM
Jose u seem like a bit of a fire starter to me, seem to be a lot of alter egos on this site wouldn't u say gentlemen.
Just speaking my mind SOg. I am all for transparency and freedom of speech, can others say the same though?

Back again then with a new name I see?  (The over use of exclamation marks give it away amongst many other things).

Best not giving this plonker the attention he craves.

To finish off about Karl, I think that he's been the best in Ulster for the last 2 if not 3 years.  I don't think he has the most ability or is the most talented by any stretch but just my opinion.  If I had to concede, it would only involve relegating him to the top 3, again just an opinion.  Good luck in the All Ireland Loughguile, believe it or not, i'll be down watching and supporting yiz.
If you'd started by saying top 3 you'd probably have got 100% support. Anyone who has seen the fella hurl over the 5-6 years, nevermind 2 -3 , can't say he's not a good hurler. He nearly single handedly beat us a few years ago in Casement.  There have been too many good performances by a lot of good hurlers over the last 2-3 years to whittle it down to one person though.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 12:49:44 PM
Anybody heading to Armoy? I'll try to update the scores but the last time I was there I had a poor data connection.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 01:43:12 PM
There was me thinking i was a reasonable likable guy  :o :o

Anyways, Loughgiel will win if they want by 8/9

We are due to play Burt at some stage in the div 3 Ulster hurling final, I know that seems a bit low considering how we have played this year but we only used the reserve team (well mainly) for all the games bar the semi final. I am hoping that we will play the reserves in the final and I'll get a run out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 01:56:30 PM
There's a fierce wind blowing straight down the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
5 mins gone. LG 1-2 dunloy 0-00. LG have the wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 02:19:16 PM
16 mins. 1-07 to 0
-00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
22 mins. 1-10 to 0-00. Don't read too much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
K mcK sent off for Dunloy. It was coming. 1-12 to 0-00 Half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 13, 2011, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
K mcK sent off for Dunloy. It was coming. 1-12 to 0-00 Half time.

Final score LG 1-14 Dunloy 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 04:13:39 PM
A tale of two halves. First time ever I've seen dunloy  going scoreless in a half of hurling. Started bright in the second half but started to wain towards the end and LG picked up a couple of points which made the difference. The wind spoiled it a bit but the fellas hurled their hearts out. Well played both teams. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
Brave saints no more, the smugglers just about.  Still reckon shams should be killing likes of dunloy at this stage as long as no injuries.  Had they at least ten of main team on.  Reckon shams are starting to think of st paddys day.  Don't count your chickens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 13, 2011, 06:37:05 PM
James not Kevin got the red card. Never ever a red card, player turned into him. Did't really give us much of a chance having to play 2/3 of game a man down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 06:50:57 PM
Neither of them Karl Stewart
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 06:57:28 PM
How did the saints do today Saff? surely you were at the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
Not long back narrowly beaten, but give very good account.  Where u in casement or training for this ulster league final.  Thought emphasis should have been on development of youth, opposed to has beens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2011, 07:25:09 PM
Munster Club Senior Hurling Championship semi-finals
Ballygunnar (Waterford) 0-12 3-09 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) FT
Carrigtwohill (Cork) 1-10 0-19 Crusheen (Clare) FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 13, 2011, 06:37:05 PM
James not Kevin got the red card. Never ever a red card, player turned into him. Did't really give us much of a chance having to play 2/3 of game a man down

Personally I thought we put in too many indisciplined tackles in the first half so made our own bed in that respect. A bit more composure in the first half may have limited lg's first half tally. Good effort in the second half though. Wind ruined the game

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 07:03:33 PM
Not long back narrowly beaten, but give very good account.  Where u in casement or training for this ulster league final.  Thought emphasis should have been on development of youth, opposed to has beens.

Training for the ulster league final ;). Has beens!! Plenty of life in the auld dog yet i might add ;)

Those Burt lads would eat our young lads up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 13, 2011, 06:37:05 PM
James not Kevin got the red card. Never ever a red card, player turned into him. Did't really give us much of a chance having to play 2/3 of game a man down
ah right, just going by the numbers in the programme. Not in the mood for an argument tonight Max. All ill say is the ref took action as Dunloy were starting to leave the stick in just a bit too often. Ifs and buts, doesn't really make any difference.    :)



(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/378910_2287361462308_1197079713_32134946_251289449_n.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
Interesting stat about all ireland hurling championship...

Loughgiel are only club left to have won it before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
Burt get stuck in, was involved in a little training session up in derry and they arrived.  I would be very interested to see how strong galls team is going out, sniff of silver does strange things.  Had galls 21 team this year.  Surely this is swan song and it'll be pipe and slippers here on in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 08:46:49 PM
Interesting in that it means f**k all as it was so long ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
Have they really? When was that? :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
So Ballyboden beat and i feel now the lshcf will be a superb contest with oulart winning out and.contesting a semi final against gort.  The winners will more than likely be eventual winners of the tommy Moore cup.  I certainly wouldn't rule out the shamrocks contesting a final.  Can't believe I am going to say they have the.skill levels of munster pairing but they do. ( unbelievable because at bstages on antrim final they were clueless and shite, but ultimately deserved winners )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 09:04:34 PM
However do not think they are physically or mentally strong enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2011, 09:09:02 PM
It's probably the most open AI club hurling in a few years. A few years ago it looked like Ballyhale / Portuma / Netownshandrum would dominate and most of the others were just making up the numbers.

It's a good chance for Loughgiel to make an impact. Not sure they have a strong enough team at present to do that though but time will tell.

Ballygunner caught a bit cold today too and would likely have been munster favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 13, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
No argument, dunloy had a few rash challenges before it, all rightly yellow carded.  I just feel James walked because the referee wanted to nip the nastiness in the bud. The challenge itself was hardly a yellow.

However not to take away from LG achievements this year.

Thought Gregory O'Kane put in a serious shift for a man of 40 who hasn't trained in 10 weeks, pity we hadn't one at the start of his career rather than the end!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on November 13, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
Shamrocks finish off a wonder season: Antrim sen cship, ulster sen cship, all county div 1, ulster league, u21 cship, res cship, res league, 3rd team NA league and junior feis. Camogs win u14 cship, u16 cship, minor cship, junior cship, sen cship and a few league titles and feis titles. What a year for the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 09:36:52 PM
Yes fair play to horse hell of a hurler, role as selector less glorious 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
No doubt a remarkable year for Shams, and as Sie will soon tell us it ain't over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 13, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
No argument, dunloy had a few rash challenges before it, all rightly yellow carded.  I just feel James walked because the referee wanted to nip the nastiness in the bud. The challenge itself was hardly a yellow.

However not to take away from LG achievements this year.

Thought Gregory O'Kane put in a serious shift for a man of 40 who hasn't trained in 10 weeks, pity we hadn't one at the start of his career rather than the end!
I thought he was man of the match myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 09:48:40 PM
Yes Dick is a cracking player who has been a credit to both Antrim and Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
Have they really? When was that? :)
(http://www.loughgielshamrocksgac.com/image.asp?p=2&i=Loughgiel+83+before%2Ejpg&w=500&pr=1&cright=)


I was only a cub myself, but I still remember it like it was  yesterday. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 10:01:44 PM
I would say one of smallest panels numerically, usually at least 24 now.  Another few matches down, remember there can be only one.  Off out for few scoops to finish off weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Yip - Greg o kane a phenomenon! And yip - fair play to loughuile - fantastic trophy hall!

I am not mixing here just asking as a city man - what's the size / population of loughuile compared to Dunloy/ballycastle/cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 10:10:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Another bog standard, unintelligent retort from you 4father. Go eat your chips now, you should feel happy about yourself.

I used to love this phrase when playing in the Glens. "fcuk away off ya chip eaters" there's a chippy in every village we played in ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Yip - Greg o kane a phenomenon! And yip - fair play to loughuile - fantastic trophy hall!

I am not mixing here just asking as a city man - what's the size / population of loughuile compared to Dunloy/ballycastle/cushendall?
According to the 2001 census:

Cushendall 1241
Dunloy 1,071
Ballycastle  5,089 (of which 77%  come from a Catholic background)
Loughguile  2,321
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2011, 10:10:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 12, 2011, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
"You can have your views that's fine, you can even say KS isn't anywhere near the best, but you are on your own with that view. Any creditability you have for discussing Antrim hurling on this board has gone. "

I believe that this is what you posted MR2. Some people might think that your credibility was gone a few months back when you admitted to betting against your own clubmates, also by calling people d**kheads and not having the balls to back it up. You've no room to be going around taking the moral high ground.

Don't give a monkey's what you think 4father. It appears you take the almighty hump if someone disagrees with you.

Sexual frustration in a post ^^^^
Another bog standard, unintelligent retort from you 4father. Go eat your chips now, you should feel happy about yourself.

I used to love this phrase when playing in the Glens. "fcuk away off ya chip eaters" there's a chippy in every village we played in ;)
They even sell pastie baps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2011, 11:09:27 PM
Much obliged SiE !

So loughuile twice size of Dunloy & Dall but all three well short of the towns catchment. Is there any stewards inquiry into ballycastle not translating this on to the pitch or are there other factors (ie) like issues in city.

I don't mean to start a debate here on playing numbers and success - we have been there! I suppose a playing population of 24 is sufficient if they are of the right quality! Much like offaly winning Liam mc carthy with 3 clubs etc...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 11:32:08 PM
Simply village size not surroundings more like 3000
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2011, 11:39:06 PM
What u mean saffog?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 13, 2011, 11:50:49 PM
Loughgiel may have 2321 population but that includes Kilraughts,Bushside part of Stranocum the Drones hardly hurling strongholds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2011, 11:59:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2011, 11:39:06 PM
What u mean saffog?

Hes a hard man to follow isn't he
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2011, 08:38:44 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 13, 2011, 11:50:49 PM
Loughgiel may have 2321 population but that includes Kilraughts,Bushside part of Stranocum the Drones hardly hurling strongholds

Also includes any decent hurlers in Cloughmills and Armoy  ;)

OE was very poor in the UHL yesterday looked like he had the ten weeks off and not Dunloy. Awful conditions for hurling but if LG have any intentions of making an impact they will need a serious look at themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 14, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
And Dunloy have the pick of Rasharkin, let's not forget. Poor performance by LG in fairness but still won. Sign of a good team I'm led to believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on November 14, 2011, 11:26:08 AM
Guys see this issue of posting boys name's on the antrim website - I think it's wrong. I see the idea behind it but I know of players who allowed their names to go forward but never got any notification about the trial from anyone. A communication breakdown obviously which isnt there fault but they now are named and shamed.

More importantly is he going to name and shame the 15 or so players from last years panel that didnt turn up to 'secret' training (winter training ban) held on Sat. My info says 15 in attendance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 14, 2011, 05:32:11 PM
Now you're talkin on the hill, we need a bit of straight talkin and less pussy footing, a spade OS a spade after all.  When de seagulls follow the trawler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 14, 2011, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 13, 2011, 11:32:08 PM
Simply village size not surroundings more like 3000
Nope, that's the whole area, including those that 'don't hurl'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 14, 2011, 07:36:14 PM
Village has seen significant growth, approx 5%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 14, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 14, 2011, 07:36:14 PM
Village has seen significant growth, approx 5%.
As has everywhere, I would suggest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 14, 2011, 09:21:59 PM
Was there a point to the stat attack
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2011, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: saffronog on November 14, 2011, 09:21:59 PM
Was there a point to the stat attack

I dont think there was a stat attack against All Saints?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 15, 2011, 05:17:18 PM
No wondering why do we want to know size of villages, are we lookin at ratios to see who should have beat opportunity for no of hurlers.  Saints main problem well among others US location of pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 07:40:14 PM
Sorry saffron of I started that!
I genuinely just wanted to know out of curiosity! I am ignorant of north Antrim catchment areas. Didn't wanna start debate on implications tho - i am only too aware that the two things (catchment & success) are not related! We can use countless examples here in Antrim but its also true across the country - Offaly won Liam mc carthy with just a few clubs etc - after all only 15 can play at a time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 15, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
Ok get u now, one positive point I have to make is growing strength of Belfast at underage, rossa st jojns, st marys school, even galls run and sars in 21's we need bother a strong north antrim and city.  See if we win first round in leinster we will be live against galway.  Frightening, see jerry pulled out of Walsh, don't mind as long as he takes league serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 08:49:12 PM
I agree sit out Walsh cup to get properly ready for a league campaign that's needed. Also, Belfast is really on high at underage - St Johns incredible at minor and Rossa have had a clean sweep
In both codes at juveniles. Alot of work going on by alot of people. Time will tell if it transpires to senior and then to the county. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 08:59:33 PM
And I neglected the improvement in SARS at u21 and Lamh dearg obvious football strength here also. Yes Belfast certainly promising. What about north Antrim quality below senior anyone? Hopefully as I say strength in both areas will ultimately benefit us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Loughgiel and cushendall are competitive year on year btdtgtt. Not sure how dunloy are going at underage.

St Johns have had a number of exceptional underage teams in the not that distant past and seem to struggle to bring them through to senior so most people will reserve judgement for a while.

It would be good if st johns and rossa stepped it up though. At the minute it's beginning to look like even the strongest down teams may struggle in antrim division 1 so maybe we'll see a day with no down teams there if the city teams step it up - who knows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Loughgiel and cushendall are competitive year on year btdtgtt. Not sure how dunloy are going at underage.

St Johns have had a number of exceptional underage teams in the not that distant past and seem to struggle to bring them through to senior so most people will reserve judgement for a while.

It would be good if st johns and rossa stepped it up though. At the minute it's beginning to look like even the strongest down teams may struggle in antrim division 1 so maybe we'll see a day with no down teams there if the city teams step it up - who knows.
I don't think that this would be a bad thing at all. I'm all for progress in ulster hurling but being an Antrim man, I'd prefer Antrim teams in the top division. It can only be good for the county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
And as a Belfast & Antrim man that's a big +1 from me! I think Rossa will at last kick up into div1 this year they eventually sorted themselves out last year and seem strong again. Galls perhaps still inhibited by football and let's see glenarriffe? Hopefully St johns can stay up at a down teams expense. But time will tell and everyone gets what they deserve!

Except loughuile ofcourse - they were so lucky to win the league, championship, ulster league and the rest! Tongue firmly in cheek....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Loughgiel and cushendall are competitive year on year btdtgtt. Not sure how dunloy are going at underage.

St Johns have had a number of exceptional underage teams in the not that distant past and seem to struggle to bring them through to senior so most people will reserve judgement for a while.

It would be good if st johns and rossa stepped it up though. At the minute it's beginning to look like even the strongest down teams may struggle in antrim division 1 so maybe we'll see a day with no down teams there if the city teams step it up - who knows.
I don't think that this would be a bad thing at all. I'm all for progress in ulster hurling but being an Antrim man, I'd prefer Antrim teams in the top division. It can only be good for the county team.

[Caveat]: As long as a drop in standards isn't the reason why those additonal Antrim team make it into Div1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
Nothing against the down teams mind. I think it's helped the standard with them being in the leagues but they do seem to be slipping a bit off late. If it ends up all antrim hopefully, like skull says, that is due to an increase in antrim's standards rather than a decrease in down standards.

I would be surprised if Rossa were in the doldrums for too long. I expect division one football and hurling for them in the next few years.

Bredagh and Carryduff are doing some good work in down hurling though MR. In saying that I think carryduff got a big hammering in the ulster minor.(*think*)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:49:50 PM


Yeah they have done great work and while Carryduff took a big hammering they did well to win Down and break the monopoly of the Ards lads.

Bredagh have done great work also, we have had them over the past 8/9 years at tournaments and they have improved greatly and winning everything along the way. A good club man has a son their (lives over that direction) and is working with them, a fella steeped in Galls hurling no doubt, he has told me about the great work they are doing of late. 

But as already has been said only if the standard is raised in the city and dropped in Down will that happen. I would want Belfast teams up there just for the sake of it. Even though i believe we would be a better hurling team if we were playing at a higher standard every week as a club, Skull ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 15, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
Bredagh senior hurlers wouldn't share the enthusiasm, reckon very few young lads to make break through, its team for oul fellas.  Mr2 did your ears prickly up there.  Some good teams in div 2, think its from galls, rossa, and glenariffe.  Sneaky suspicion for da rassa.  Put much depends on personal retiring etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:59:52 PM
I for one would miss the down clubs from the Antrim leagues. Theres an honesty and passion in the way they play league matches that is rarely matched by the mid to lower placed antrim teams in division1. As tommy has said there's been benifits both ways.

It's not a foregone conclusion that playing at a higher standard will improve your game (ask Sarsfields how they got on about 10-12 years ago) To improve in standards milltown players need to respect the game. To me that means spending the right amount of time working on skill improvement in training and then going out and playing the game at as high an intensity that they can and stay focused on learning and improving rather than letting demotivation take over. Teams that do that will improve
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2011, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 09:33:23 PM
Loughgiel and cushendall are competitive year on year btdtgtt. Not sure how dunloy are going at underage.

St Johns have had a number of exceptional underage teams in the not that distant past and seem to struggle to bring them through to senior so most people will reserve judgement for a while.

It would be good if st johns and rossa stepped it up though. At the minute it's beginning to look like even the strongest down teams may struggle in antrim division 1 so maybe we'll see a day with no down teams there if the city teams step it up - who knows.
I don't think that this would be a bad thing at all. I'm all for progress in ulster hurling but being an Antrim man, I'd prefer Antrim teams in the top division. It can only be good for the county team.

[Caveat]: As long as a drop in standards isn't the reason why those additonal Antrim team make it into Div1
Well, if the Down teams end up not in div. 1. their standards have dropped. I'd prefer to have Antrim teams of a similar quality to the Down teams in Division 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Yes it will be interesting to see if bredagh & carryduff develop into senior hurling - do St brigids play hurling?

I also fancy Rossa to make moves from div2 - they need the older lads but haven't heard retirements and a load of young guys Altho they will have to get full team out for a change. Lamh dearg will also Continue strong Belfast representation and I suspect so many trips to the big smoke will take toll on oisins. Div2 is a great league - Altho when the caravan is open I still like a div1 trip up the glens!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2011, 11:06:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 15, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Yes it will be interesting to see if bredagh & carryduff develop into senior hurling - do St brigids play hurling?

I also fancy Rossa to make moves from div2 - they need the older lads but haven't heard retirements and a load of young guys Altho they will have to get full team out for a change. Lamh dearg will also Continue strong Belfast representation and I suspect so many trips to the big smoke will take toll on oisins. Div2 is a great league - Altho when the caravan is open I still like a div1 trip up the glens!
I know St Brigids had a hurling team a couple of years ago. I haven't heard much since then though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 11:07:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 15, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
Bredagh senior hurlers wouldn't share the enthusiasm, reckon very few young lads to make break through, its team for oul fellas.  Mr2 did your ears prickly up there.  Some good teams in div 2, think its from galls, rossa, and glenariffe.  Sneaky suspicion for da rassa.  Put much depends on personal retiring etc.

As I'm sure you are aware saff, Bredagh hammered your club and won their div and the Down intermediate title along the way, their enthusiasm is far Superior to a lot of Antrim teams. Your knowledge in that respect is crap.

So i take it that Dunloy failed to respect the game this year when soundly beaten Skull by a team that only pays hurling lip service?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 11:07:54 PM
So i take it that Dunloy failed to respect the game this year when soundly beaten Skull by a team that only pays hurling lip service?

Poor attitude in some areas and poor basic technique in others played a part in our performaces in the championship this year so I'd have to say yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 12:19:31 AM
Maybe taking a team for granted 1st day out, but then 2nd day again, ???  id say Dunloy were beaten by a far better team.  only for a goal keeper fumble, Galls would of been contesting two Antrim finals in the one year.  Don't think this has ever been done, if Galls improve half as much this year as they did last year, will cause problems again this year!  Galls and Rossa for sure on up but i don't see St Johns doing anything IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:33:58 AM
 ??? FFS  ::) ...I was answering a specific question asked by MR.

What in my reply just now or indeed my comments prior to and just after the games with St Galls ever suggested that I didn't believe we were beat by a better team? The answer of course is NOTHING. In fact I have openly stated that I believe we were beaten by the better team.  ::)
I get youse are enjoying your new status as the best team in Antrim but have a bit of class and quit trying to twist and stir at every fecking opertunity to get it into your nearest and dearest . Maybe you haven't the wit to do so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 03:40:41 AM
uckkkk poor baby!!  put the toys back in pram!!  not as if we didnt have to listen to jabs at every chance, so dry them!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Going by Ballycran's performance in the Ulster final this year and Ballygalget's in the semi last year there's a fair bit of rebuilding needed yet. I don't really buy into this 'rebuilding' fad'. it seems to be the mantra of poor teams (in any sport) who are basically admitting that they've been ignoring their youth development, club facilities etc. We were as guilty of it as anyone in the last 15 years or so until the last 7 -8 years. Dunloy are going through the same at the minute.

Surely all this 'rebuilding' is a get out clause for clubs indolence and poor management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:23:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:33:58 AM
??? FFS  ::) ...I was answering a specific question asked by MR.

What in my reply just now or indeed my comments prior to and just after the games with St Galls ever suggested that I didn't believe we were beat by a better team? The answer of course is NOTHING. In fact I have openly stated that I believe we were beaten by the better team.  ::)
I get youse are enjoying your new status as the best team in Antrim but have a bit of class and quit trying to twist and stir at every fecking opertunity to get it into your nearest and dearest . Maybe you haven't the wit to do so.
Now, now Skull. We've had plenty to listen to from your lot and the others over the mountain for the last 20 odd years. Don't be coming on here trying to take any moral high ground in that regard. Yous are no saints when it comes to stirring. Remember the banner in Casement a few years back? We don't! So as SG says, dry 'em!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 08:51:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:23:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:33:58 AM
??? FFS  ::) ...I was answering a specific question asked by MR.

What in my reply just now or indeed my comments prior to and just after the games with St Galls ever suggested that I didn't believe we were beat by a better team? The answer of course is NOTHING. In fact I have openly stated that I believe we were beaten by the better team.  ::)
I get youse are enjoying your new status as the best team in Antrim but have a bit of class and quit trying to twist and stir at every fecking opertunity to get it into your nearest and dearest . Maybe you haven't the wit to do so.
Now, now Skull. We've had plenty to listen to from your lot and the others over the mountain for the last 20 odd years. Don't be coming on here trying to take any moral high ground in that regard. Yous are no saints when it comes to stirring. Remember the banner in Casement a few years back? We don't! So as SG says, dry 'em!

Well that is the justification of a childish fool right there. The lack of reasoning is astonishing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Going by Ballycran's performance in the Ulster final this year and Ballygalget's in the semi last year there's a fair bit of rebuilding needed yet. I don't really buy into this 'rebuilding' fad'. it seems to be the mantra of poor teams (in any sport) who are basically admitting that they've been ignoring their youth development, club facilities etc. We were as guilty of it as anyone in the last 15 years or so until the last 7 -8 years. Dunloy are going through the same at the minute.

Surely all this 'rebuilding' is a get out clause for clubs indolence and poor management.

I would imagine that anyone looking at Dunloy's development over the last few years would be saying anything other than ignoring development SIE. Serious money spent for the future of Hurling in North Antrim as a community including LG.

Teams and clubs go through phases where there are talented bunches of kids who come along at the one time, the hard work has to be done when this group are not around so that you can still add those 2-3 minors to your senior squad and improve it year on year.

2 Championships seem to have seriously gone to the heads in LG, able to pontificate against other clubs who have been putting in the hard yards. But I guess you pay enough mercenaries some of them are going to bring a bit of luck with them along the way.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line

Bredagh were in the Down SHC this year...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Developing buildings rather than teams skull. Take a look at your own set up through the years before pontificating about mercenaries.

Again, you have no room to spew forth about any other club before dealing with issues within your own, which I'm told there are a few.

And as for being childish I have told you that you lot are no different to anyone else. Reasoned enough I think. At least I haven't resorted to personal insults like yourself. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Developing buildings rather than teams skull. Take a look at your own set up through the years before pontificating about mercenaries.

Again, you have no room to spew forth about any other club before dealing with issues within your own, which I'm told there are a few.

And as for being childish I have told you that you lot are no different to anyone else. Reasoned enough I think. At least I haven't resorted to personal insults like yourself. 



So now,  not only am I amongst the group of idiots who unfurled a disgraceful banner at the county final 3 years ago, I am also NAG1

You most certain have personally insulted me SIE , by reasoning that me and my opinions are in some way aligned with the actions of arseholes who purport to be real supporters of my club. As I've said an astonishing lack of reasoning. That inability to make reasoned comments makes you a fool in my book. You may find it insulting, but youre the one hoisting yourself on your own petard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Developing buildings rather than teams skull. Take a look at your own set up through the years before pontificating about mercenaries.

Again, you have no room to spew forth about any other club before dealing with issues within your own, which I'm told there are a few.

And as for being childish I have told you that you lot are no different to anyone else. Reasoned enough I think. At least I haven't resorted to personal insults like yourself.

I am just looking in from the outside SIE

Developing the infrastructure to allow teams to be developed long term is developing teams in my book. My point is you have taken the high moral ground here in the last while on the back of winning two championships, it was not that long ago that LG people were turning on their own players during their losing streak. So you will forgive any one on here if they take issue with you pontificating and looking down your nose at any other club.

Where were the personal insults?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
I apologise for getting you and NAG mixed up, my mobile  didn't show his name for some reason. Doesn't take away from the fact that sweeping generalisations are being made about LG and their supporters. As for the banner I was merely pointing out that your own supporters aren't immune from idiotic behaviour. We have them too.

Perhaps this should be put to bed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
I apologise for getting you and NAG mixed up, my mobile  didn't show his name for some reason. Doesn't take away from the fact that sweeping generalisations are being made about LG and their supporters. As for the banner I was merely pointing out that your own supporters aren't immune from idiotic behaviour. We have them too.

Perhaps this should be put to bed.

Lets put it to bed after you to explain the relevance and indeed the justification of your comments in the context of the conversation I was having with MR2 and subsequent points made to sleeping (but now awake) giant?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 10:49:58 AM
Going by the UHL performace could be a short lived worry SIE  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 10:54:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.


Is that the sound of a bin lorry I hear? beep beep beep beep beep

Congratulations on a good mornings work
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
:). Nah Skull, I'll respond when I've time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 16, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
As someone from Loughgiel who reads this site reguarly but rarely contributes can I just say that reading the posts of other Loughgiel posters makes me cringe at times.

SIE in particular you show the maturity of an 11 year old.

Very proud of our clubs fantastic achievements this year but see no need to boast and brag.

Focus on the next target and move on. By boasting and blowing about what has been achieved the club will only lose site of what can be achieved.

Brian Cody for instance is a man our club has hosted and been lucky enough to visit in recent years. Despite his success he remains modest and humble but feriously driven, the attitude our team/club needs going forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:23:18 AM
Where was I boasting or indeed bragging?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.

Ulster V Munster - this will surely be in Parnell Park no?

Although perhaps Mullingar right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:52:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.
Really? Wow! Well, if you take exception to that maybe you're just a tad over sensitive. It was a flippant throw away comment meant to lighten the thread a bit. I think NAG1 saw it as that. No harm meant by it. It's also stemming from a genuine concern, purely selfish of course, pertaining to the cost of the whole trip. What are the chances of it being played in Casement?     ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
North aontroim gael......I come from Loughgiel and I would say that if a bit of harmless banter on a GAA forum makes you cringe,you haven't been along the line at some of our matches.The language directed towards referees and opposing spectators is quite frankly disgraceful. You know who I'm talking about.Why don't you address  this problem ?,I'm sure the Keady supporters who attended last year's Ulster semi-final would agree.
Get a grip and don't take yourself so seriously,most of the people slagging each other on this forum know each other........and it's "sight" not "site.
Up the Shamrocks.     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
:). Nah Skull, I'll respond when I've time.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:52:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:37:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
I've more important things to worry about skull. Like where the All-Ireland semi is going to be played.
Really? Wow! Well, if you take exception to that maybe you're just a tad over sensitive. It was a flippant throw away comment meant to lighten the thread a bit. I think NAG1 saw it as that. No harm meant by it. It's also stemming from a genuine concern, purely selfish of course, pertaining to the cost of the whole trip. What are the chances of it being played in Casement?     ;)

If you've time to respond twice since the post above it would certainly appear that you haven't got an argument to put forward?

And bushwhacker I'd love to know who you believe is enjoying "the harmless banter" as you call it because SG's and SIEs contributions over the past 12 hours is the mindless drivel of fools afaik
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2011, 12:17:46 PM
theskull1..... you are not entirely blameless in this respect,as I seem to recall..........."holier than thou" springs to mind !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
And bushwhacker I'd love to know who you believe is enjoying "the harmless banter" as you call it because SG's and SIEs contributions over the past 12 hours is the mindless drivel of fools afaik

Quote from: Buswhacker on November 16, 2011, 12:17:46 PM
theskull1..... you are not entirely blameless in this respect,as I seem to recall..........."holier than thou" springs to mind !!

Another one who can't answer questions

This mornings dialogue kicked off as a result of a conversation I was having with MR2. Can you tell me what blame I need to accept in relation to my replies to SG and his sidekick because I can't see it. These lazy vague one line replies are far too easy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 12:28:17 PM
SIE

I would imagine it being Munster opposition you will be looking at either Mullingar or Parnell. Either way shouldnt cost too much in Diesel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
Bushwhacker do you not know its OK for Dunloy to santer on when there winning,and were loosing, small bit of a dig, not any where near insulting and its just childish of us.  wouldn't so much say the Dall, but our friends across the moss may get use to it, cause be a long time before there snipping at Shamrocks again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
Another personal insult skull. You're showing us all who the mindless child is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 12:28:17 PM
SIE

I would imagine it being Munster opposition you will be looking at either Mullingar or Parnell. Either way shouldnt cost too much in Diesel.
I hope so NAG. I wouldn't mind a wee pint or two when I'm down though. I'll maybe get a designated driver to take me down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
Bushwhacker do you not know its OK for Dunloy to santer on when there winning,and were loosing, small bit of a dig, not any where near insulting and its just childish of us.  wouldn't so much say the Dall, but our friends across the moss may get use to it, cause be a long time before there snipping at Shamrocks again

SG was chatting to a Dunloy lad Sunday night and he told me a cracking quote from one of your boys to one of the more experienced Dunloy lads on Sunday past. Think he may have been getting ahead of himself  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
Know doubt there is prob a lot of people getting ahead. I myself have feet on ground. Back to back antrim and ulster. For me a decent account of ourselves in Feb, Let use lot have  your laughs.then another good run at antrim, still a young enough team.  Suppose your hardly for letting us here this statement??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 16, 2011, 01:07:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
Know doubt there is prob a lot of people getting ahead. I myself have feet on ground. Back to back antrim and ulster. For me a decent account of ourselves in Feb, Let use lot have  your laughs.then another good run at antrim, still a young enough team.  Suppose your hardly for letting us here this statement??

Well said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 16, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
Never said 'you' were but you can guess the gist of the statement from your back to back championships just made me laugh as to who he managed to say it too.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 16, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 11:23:18 AM
Where was I boasting or indeed bragging?

For most of your 551 posts. Of course when anybody challenges you on your comments, your response is along the lines of something "i was only having a bit of banter". You have had a similiar response like this already today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
Another personal insult skull. You're showing us all who the mindless child is.

Not another one SIE, just repeating the same one which I have good reason to believe is true (and have outlined the reasons for thinking it here). All these other posts your able to make and still you can't find the time to respond to that question I posed  ::).......beep beep beep beep beep

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
Laughable really. Like I said skull, I'll respond to you when I have more time. My phone mobile browser is dung. I'll be on the laptop later. You better make sure that lorry doesn't back into your wall.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2011, 02:08:07 PM
Could prob quess the lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 02:09:39 PM
By the way fairhead, whoever you are, I never mentioned banter. I think you'll find that was another poster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 10:28:36 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
I apologise for getting you and NAG mixed up, my mobile  didn't show his name for some reason. Doesn't take away from the fact that sweeping generalisations are being made about LG and their supporters. As for the banner I was merely pointing out that your own supporters aren't immune from idiotic behaviour. We have them too.

Perhaps this should be put to bed.

Lets put it to bed after you to explain the relevance and indeed the justification of your comments in the context of the conversation I was having with MR2 and subsequent points made to sleeping (but now awake) giant?


Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 12:33:58 AM
??? FFS  ::) ...I was answering a specific question asked by MR.

What in my reply just now or indeed my comments prior to and just after the games with St Galls ever suggested that I didn't believe we were beat by a better team? The answer of course is NOTHING. In fact I have openly stated that I believe we were beaten by the better team.  ::)
I get youse are enjoying your new status as the best team in Antrim but have a bit of class and quit trying to twist and stir at every fecking opertunity to get it into your nearest and dearest . Maybe you haven't the wit to do so.
I think the use of the 'youse' is what caught my eye. Reading the post now,  on a clearer screen I can see that you were probably directing your comment to SG alone. Still, it doesn't excuse the abuse which you then proceeded to come out with towards me. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 06:57:16 PM
Mr2 wake up, if u talk about a reasonable standard of hurling I.e your league and above bredagh are out of their league.  They are clinging on with super hurlers in their day like d Hughes, Lorenzo, ex sham laim mccollam, heron & Kelly who are docs and have limited time to spend, those two are the younger boys that are decent and they're late 30's.  Other boys wrong side of 40.  About 1 or 2 young home grown talent, they'll do well to keep fielding at current level.  Wish them all success but its long long time before they contribute to saffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 07:00:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:14:27 PM
I think the use of the 'youse' is what caught my eye. Reading the post now,  on a clearer screen I can see that you were probably directing your comment to SG alone. Still, it doesn't excuse the abuse which you then proceeded to come out with towards me.

Hello??? I think it absolutely does.

As a result of your inability to interpret properly what I wrote, you justify sgs post by aligning me with a bunch of idiots who carry a disgraceful banner onto a pitch and shamed my club by doing so. Up to this point I have assumed that everyone would read messages properly before replying. As a result of that assumption I could only conclude that you were a complete and utter sh*t stirring fool/tool for the comments you made.
I'm a bit confused by this notion that you believe I still don't have an excuse for calling you a fool? Are you telling me I was wrong to assume that people read properly before replying (especially in such an inflammatory way like you did), because if you are I think you'll find that still makes you a fool. Otherwise, be a man, accept what your misread brought about (i.e all the mud slinging) apologise for the confusion caused and that would make you NOT a sh*t stirring fool/tool.

So whats it gonna be?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 07:03:45 PM
Very dramatic Skull. I got it wrong, I already admitted that. Apology? Nah, I'm no fool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 07:14:44 PM
So people who apologise are fools. Fair enough  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 06:57:16 PM
Mr2 wake up, if u talk about a reasonable standard of hurling I.e your league and above bredagh are out of their league.  They are clinging on with super hurlers in their day like d Hughes, Lorenzo, ex sham laim mccollam, heron & Kelly who are docs and have limited time to spend, those two are the younger boys that are decent and they're late 30's.  Other boys wrong side of 40.  About 1 or 2 young home grown talent, they'll do well to keep fielding at current level.  Wish them all success but its long long time before they contribute to saffs.

Are you sure?

A quick look at the tables div 3 shows that they were 5 points off the champions and above 4 North Antrim teams. Not bad for 3 constitutive seasons, more progressive than the established Antrim teams but you'd know that already. I never said that they were up to div 2 or above standard, but certainly making the league they are in more competitive and as Skull says that can only be better for the rest of the teams there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 10:10:34 PM
Yeah I am sure bredagh long way off contributing to saffs those teams in that league along with ourselves get beat in north antrim league by clubs z teams as they are know.  Not doubting enthusiasm but my point remains, they're going to struggle due to limited young blood, likes of dun, gravel are dying at present and only surviving through amalgamated underage systems.  Great that people spreading coaching like galls mate but u need nos. As for knowing that we can all read the tables, almighty one.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 10:10:34 PM
Yeah I am sure bredagh long way off contributing to saffs those teams in that league along with ourselves get beat in north antrim league by clubs z teams as they are know.  Not doubting enthusiasm but my point remains, they're going to struggle due to limited young blood, likes of dun, gravel are dying at present and only surviving through amalgamated underage systems.  Great that people spreading coaching like galls mate but u need nos. As for knowing that we can all read the tables, almighty one.
Bredagh are progressing a lot at underage. I don't think they struggle for numbers. The north antrim boys are helping blood the younger ones.

Bredagh were close to top of division 3 and you're in division 4...

In reality the 2nd teams of our bigger teams would beat them but not z squads. Massive gap between 3 and 4 in antrim. Too big in fact and there should be a 4a and a 4b as the best teams in 4 don't learn that much against the lesser opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
Well dall z squad won north antrim league and that contained alot of those teams, dall and glenariffe, etc wouldn't be getting beat by sars by near 30 points.  If there underage is bubbling so hot I see johns minors beat down minor champions 6-24 to seven and they were pulling up.  Senior bredagh hurlers said they had been begged not to retire or team would fold, that had been host of my point.  Also that saffs would benefit for long time.  My worry for life of other clubs is a point i stick with.  These are worring times.  An amalgamation of all these clubs didn't break much ice in senior championship. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 10:54:47 PM
That's not something I heard about senior bredagh players. They not have two teams? Not sure your sources are accurate.

who are "those teams" by the way?? Any division 3 team I know of that plays in the north antrim league against "z squads" play their ungraded players so they're , give or take fringe players, on a 2nd team. By z do you mean second or third team - I assume you mean third?

st johns breezed through antrim, except the final, sure. down hurling not going so well at the minute but were bredagh not in the final against carryduff?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2011, 10:59:27 PM
The way I see it, fast growing (due to population influx) up and coming clubs like bredagh carryduff and St endas have a fairly unique problem of finding a way to get their more skillful youngsters into senior without them having too much time sledging it out in the lower divisions. The concern will be whether the less skillful olderhands will hang around to help get them to a better standard of hurling.

These 3 clubs have fantastic numbers at juvenile level

Bredagh are a down club btw saffronog
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 16, 2011, 11:21:27 PM
Couldn't wait I'll just delivery my century of posts and say if the galls could attract hurlers the way they do footballers they might do double next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2011, 11:42:13 PM
You really know shite all. But keep her coming lad it's quare craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 06:21:08 AM
MR2, are the Galls' men going to give the hurling championship a fair crack next year, or concentrate on the football? I was reading that your club was primarily a hurling club up to the fifties. I see big Aodhan turned up to the county trials. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 08:54:47 AM
Lets not get carried away, being a great athlete will get you to the top in Antrim club hurling but going to the next step is a completely different thing. It not so much about the speed of the body as everyone will be of an equal status more or less, its speed of thought and speed of hand that make the difference at the top level and I am sorry but unless you are used to that from an early age it is very very difficult to pick up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:10:37 AM
Aidso Gallagher is a very effective hurler who I think would be a useful addition to our county panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 10:38:00 AM
I was impressed with him also. He can only strengthen the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:10:37 AM
Aidso Gallagher is a very effective hurler who I think would be a useful addition to our county panel.

Unfortunately effective doesnt cut it at the top level skull not having a go at AG he is a great athlete a great footballer and best of all a winner but is just lacking the two things I mentioned which are what makes the difference and are the hardest to coach.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:10:37 AM
Aidso Gallagher is a very effective hurler who I think would be a useful addition to our county panel.

Unfortunately effective doesnt cut it at the top level skull not having a go at AG he is a great athlete a great footballer and best of all a winner but is just lacking the two things I mentioned which are what makes the difference and are the hardest to coach.

did you not see the emphasis on "our" above NAG1? More than capable IMO and has more stickwork than you give him credit possibly due to him being a bit unorthodox.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 11:32:41 AM
Yeah got the emphasis on our, just doesnt change my opinion on it.

I get that he is unorthodox and not trying to take any credit away from him, just IMO it is just not the type of player that we should be looking for at this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
I agree with both of you if that's possible!

NAG is right - I dont think Aodhan G will cut much at senior inter-county level, but as you guys also point out - he is still a better option than some others on the panel of late!

Time will tell lads.

When is county convention / AGM or whatever?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 17, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
I agree with both of you if that's possible!

NAG is right - I dont think Aodhan G will cut much at senior inter-county level, but as you guys also point out - he is still a better option than some others on the panel of late!

Time will tell lads.

When is county convention / AGM or whatever?
agree with you 100%,   Think he deserves a crack at it, if he makes it will he give football the back seat??   no way he could be expected to 100% fully commit to both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 17, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 17, 2011, 11:32:41 AM
Yeah got the emphasis on our, just doesnt change my opinion on it.

I get that he is unorthodox and not trying to take any credit away from him, just IMO it is just not the type of player that we should be looking for at this time.
County squads are not made up of perfect hurlers NAG, never were. The average he strikes is more than good enough to fit right in IMO. There may be a few of the type of players around that you are talking about but many have short comings in other areas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2011, 11:42:13 PM
You really know shite all. But keep her coming lad it's quare craic

you keep me right master yoda and i will keep trying to reach your level.  surprised jerry hasn't asked you to become selector, seem the obvious choice. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
Funny you should say that ......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on November 17, 2011, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Going by Ballycran's performance in the Ulster final this year and Ballygalget's in the semi last year there's a fair bit of rebuilding needed yet. I don't really buy into this 'rebuilding' fad'. it seems to be the mantra of poor teams (in any sport) who are basically admitting that they've been ignoring their youth development, club facilities etc. We were as guilty of it as anyone in the last 15 years or so until the last 7 -8 years. Dunloy are going through the same at the minute.

Surely all this 'rebuilding' is a get out clause for clubs indolence and poor manageme

well im sure if ye were asked a few years back you might have had a different view on it but sure nothing like a bit of success ta get the preachers out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Just a thought - 100% fact that our county hurlers have been training (fair enough jerry). But because of the training ban the guys don't get fed and can't claim expenses. So there - a rule brought in to help players end up doing the exact opposite? No rest, and at least if it was official they would get expenses. In the name of good god that's a good'un for the gpa, Croke park blazers and county board! And players! Will it get noticed at convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: the waffler on November 17, 2011, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Going by Ballycran's performance in the Ulster final this year and Ballygalget's in the semi last year there's a fair bit of rebuilding needed yet. I don't really buy into this 'rebuilding' fad'. it seems to be the mantra of poor teams (in any sport) who are basically admitting that they've been ignoring their youth development, club facilities etc. We were as guilty of it as anyone in the last 15 years or so until the last 7 -8 years. Dunloy are going through the same at the minute.

Surely all this 'rebuilding' is a get out clause for clubs indolence and poor management

well im sure if ye were asked a few years back you might have had a different view on it but sure nothing like a bit of success ta get the preachers out
I take it you missed the part of the post where I said we were as guilty as anyone of it over the last 15 years or so.

I fixed you're code there for you too Waffler.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Yep. Was that a brother up there with him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2011, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Yep. Was that a brother up there with him?

Aye Ciaran scored a couple of goals and points.

If Aidso decides to pull in behind the hurlers this year then it will seriously boost our club hurling team first and foremost. Antrim will get an athlete in their team. Someone with fitness levels at a higher rate than what would be there normally. In both games against Dunloy he fielded some ball and played well throughout. He carried this on in the Dall game also.

From a club view i hope he does. He's a great big lad who is a pleasure to play in the same team as and manage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
All the Shams for thurles Sunday week, or will the telly in pound do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:06:19 PM
Still think a lot of our lads need to he fitter, and mote physical, if gallagher fits Bill by all means, but need to be good hurler, those herrons have to say fit that bill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
All the Shams for thurles Sunday week, or will the telly in pound do
Telly in the living room with a few cans stocked in the beer fridge. I'd have loved to be down there but I've to rise at 5.30 next morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:06:19 PM
Still think a lot of our lads need to he fitter, and mote physical, if gallagher fits Bill by all means, but need to be good hurler, those herrons have to say fit that bill

Seems your memory of is hurling skills is a bit like your memory of Bredagh and their players and current team ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 17, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:06:19 PM
Still think a lot of our lads need to he fitter, and mote physical, if gallagher fits Bill by all means, but need to be good hurler, those herrons have to say fit that bill

Gallagher is physical and aggressive, Herron isn't aggressive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:15:13 PM
Well I'm hoping he's better than them, are you trying to get job with them or.something, bound to he time for mcguinness band wagon to move on.  I am sure your mate would throw a name on nomination form Mr2.  Haven't seen him hurling for while is he the Gaga fellow hurled around half forwards at stage. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2011, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:15:13 PM
Well I'm hoping he's better than them, are you trying to get job with them or.something, bound to he time for mcguinness band wagon to move on.  I am sure your mate would throw a name on nomination form Mr2.  Haven't seen him hurling for while is he the Gaga fellow hurled around half forwards at stage.

Colm has done rightly with Bredagh, a good lad also. I've no notion of getting back into management for a while yet, life consuming job.

I will be at something next year in gaa, and no doubt will get a few posts on it.

Gaga is the older one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Yep. Was that a brother up there with him?

Did he not play left half forward? Think youre mixing him up with Anton something or other ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
Did Sean McGuinness take bredagh, then his son Colm take over? Is this a paid position?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
Did Sean McGuinness take bredagh, then his son Colm take over? Is this a paid position?

I've his number if ya want to ask him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
I think that conversation would age me a few years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:41:41 PM
Herrons might not be as physical as u minder, ciaran maybe not so much so but others put themselves about.  Few more families like that would help county.  Are u managing some team next year Mr2 ?  Who was galls manager this year ? Does he fancy it again or will u be giving him run for his money ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:43:58 PM
5.30 to get up at, are u in different country Sie, or goin on the massey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:43:58 PM
5.30 to get up at, are u in different country Sie, or goin on the massey
I work in a different county unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
Sign of times, a lot of hurlers been taken away from teams due to this

,  herrons also aggressive, your sort of shit stir that would pick up on language used. Minder ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 18, 2011, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 17, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
Sign of times, a lot of hurlers been taken away from teams due to this

,  herrons also aggressive, your sort of shit stir that would pick up on language used. Minder ???

SIE works in a different County not Country, and he has to get up to go to work at 5.30am the day after the Munsfer final.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 18, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Yep. Was that a brother up there with him?

Did he not play left half forward? Think youre mixing him up with Anton something or other ???

Skull your correct Anton McCafferty was Full forward. He also plays for St Marys. He had a brother at wing forward for St Marys although I don't know if he was playing for st galls that day against us. Aidan Gallagher was wing forward that championship game in Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 18, 2011, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 18, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 17, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on November 17, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
Is AG the guy that played full forward against Cushendall in the Championship?
Yep. Was that a brother up there with him?

Did he not play left half forward? Think youre mixing him up with Anton something or other ???

Skull your correct Anton McCafferty was Full forward. He also plays for St Marys. He had a brother at wing forward for St Marys although I don't know if he was playing for st galls that day against us. Aidan Gallagher was wing forward that championship game in Loughgiel

Ciaran McCaffery is his brother - he was a sub against Cushendall in the Championship but didn't feature.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 07:05:05 PM
Some squad at 21 trials wouldn't fancy running rule over that lot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 07:08:42 PM
Is paddy mcgill current antrim panelist ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 18, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
Quote from: the waffler on November 17, 2011, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2011, 06:16:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on November 16, 2011, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
That's  not the case if they have been underperforming Skull. Carryduff have won the Down minor championship this year so ther has been a steady decline of the Down teams, but Portaferry have always managed to beat us handy every year, decent team to.

??? I don't understand what youre saying there milltown

It could be argued that Carryduff winning minor is a sign that the south belfast clubs with the numbers they have are making good progress as much as I'm not saying that the ards clubs may have dipped. I fully expect Bredagh and/or Carryduff to be competing for senior titles in the next 10 years. Lots of kids and lots of interested coaches will bring this about.

none of the two belfast teams will compete in down  shc in 10 yrs time both nowhere near or likely to be senior in that time having watched them both portaferry and ballygalget rebuilding with ypunger guys the crans young but year or two on down the line
Going by Ballycran's performance in the Ulster final this year and Ballygalget's in the semi last year there's a fair bit of rebuilding needed yet. I don't really buy into this 'rebuilding' fad'. it seems to be the mantra of poor teams (in any sport) who are basically admitting that they've been ignoring their youth development, club facilities etc. We were as guilty of it as anyone in the last 15 years or so until the last 7 -8 years. Dunloy are going through the same at the minute.

Surely all this 'rebuilding' is a get out clause for clubs indolence and poor manageme

well im sure if ye were asked a few years back you might have had a different view on it but sure nothing like a bit of success ta get the preachers out

small rural clubs go through peaks and troughs soley through numbers rather than any poor management or reglect and that quickly manifests itself in juvenile results. Our minor team this year only had two lads in their final year at the grade. Theses things happen.
There is probalby more girls in the parish at juvenile levels currently and hence why we're doing fairly well at the camogie. The local primary school had a total attendance of 70 odd children for several years and now all of a sudden there's 20 odd youngsters alone in P2, something similar in P3 with high twenties expected to start P1 next september.
Once in a while you'd be lucky to get 7 or 8 lads the same age making up the backbone of a team and then you'd be filling in round them with youngsters maybe three years left at that grade.

Our seniors are severly lacking in quality beyond half a dozen lads and that'll take a few years to get lads blooded from minor into the senior set up so I'd consider us rebuilding as barring Graham and Liam Clarke, none of the rest are 30 or over.
We'll keep fighting for Div1 survival until there are eight better teams to take our place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 18, 2011, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 07:05:05 PM
Some squad at 21 trials wouldn't fancy running rule over that lot

John McIntosh of the famous Glenariffe Oisins i believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 10:25:33 PM
Does this then mean he is other selector like sambo selector but is the minor manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 18, 2011, 10:28:02 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 10:25:33 PM
Does this then mean he is other selector like sambo selector but is the minor manager.

He is just involved with the U-21s AFAIK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2011, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 10:25:33 PM
Does this then mean he is other selector like sambo selector but is the minor manager.

Does this come with a translation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
Afaik? What does that mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2011, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
Afaik? What does that mean?

Seamroga in Exile was once asked how far he can puck a ball. He said

As Far As I Ken
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2011, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 18, 2011, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
Afaik? What does that mean?

Seamroga in Exile was once asked how far he can puck a ball. He said

As Far As I Ken
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 19, 2011, 01:49:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2011, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 18, 2011, 10:25:33 PM
Does this then mean he is other selector like sambo selector but is the minor manager.

Does this come with a translation?
Yes commas although boring are useful.  One out of 2 ain't bad Mr2, certainly isn't the latter. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
Will dander down and have a nosey at the session here in J'town. Though numbers should be small after a certain city school formal last night ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 19, 2011, 03:37:30 PM
We don't appreciate hurling until it's gone! Oh for a niggley close local game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2011, 10:10:50 PM
Went down to watch the development squads today. Over 60 kids on show for a ten start. Fair play to coaches kids and backroom staff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 19, 2011, 03:37:30 PM
We don't appreciate hurling until it's gone! Oh for a niggley close local game!

I'm still going to hurl for the southy team next year. Will do my head in when i eventually give it up :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
Sometimes you gotta know when to walk away MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
Sometimes you gotta know when to walk away MR2.

I'm actually fitter now than I've been for a while. Be different if i was keeping the kids off the team but we really only get enough players for that team.

Should be refereeing next year anyways (all county) so plenty of debate on that no doubt ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
Will u be reffing the top league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 12:51:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
Will u be reffing the top league?

Thats not how it will work i think I'll have to work up to that level ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 01:19:52 PM
We'll not get a scowl at ye for a year or two yet then. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 20, 2011, 03:13:42 PM
Mr2 think you'll make a ref like duffy.  He's your club is he ? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 03:20:11 PM
I'm only doing it for the craic.

I'm not for hitting the heights of intercounty refereeing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
Why not? I hear there's good money at it. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 20, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
I was out walking the dog this morning.  Met a friend of a friend who was telling me there's a bit of an exodus going on at Gort na mona, all young lads too.  Disappointing to hear for a proud wee club who seemed to be doing well up until a few years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 20, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
I was out walking the dog this morning.  Met a friend of a friend who was telling me there's a bit of an exodus going on at Gort na mona, all young lads too.  Disappointing to hear for a proud wee club who seemed to be doing well up until a few years ago.

Leaving for other clubs or just not playing? They have struggled at juvenile of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 20, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
leaving for other clubs i heard, he mentioned Panzers son, young panzer the Goalie and three others to - Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 20, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
leaving for other clubs i heard, he mentioned Panzers son, young panzer the Goalie and three others to - Rossa.

Bad craic alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 20, 2011, 04:23:28 PM
They definitely seemed to be on the up so this will be very disappointing if its true.  They've had some amount of members leave between footballers and hurlers, must be something really wrong up there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 20, 2011, 06:29:11 PM
Heard Creggan were beaten by Burt in the JHC Replay - didn't hear final score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
Quote from: aontroim on November 20, 2011, 06:29:11 PM
Heard Creggan were beaten by Burt in the JHC Replay - didn't hear final score.
Creggan 0-13 Burt 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 20, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Bad luck Creggan.

Gory rumours beyond me but nit sure about Rossa - they have a history of turning down people involved in fall-outs with other clubs! See sars and a few johnnies!

Mind u maybe something - panzer dad is originally a Rossa man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Bad luck Creggan.

Gory rumours beyond me but nit sure about Rossa - they have a history of turning down people involved in fall-outs with other clubs! See sars and a few johnnies!

Mind u maybe something - panzer dad is originally a Rossa man?

Aye Panzer's da is a Rossa man alright. Gorts had a big fall out during the year i know. Had Sambo down working withy them and it still didn't help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 20, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Bad luck Creggan.

Gory rumours beyond me but nit sure about Rossa - they have a history of turning down people involved in fall-outs with other clubs! See sars and a few johnnies!

Mind u maybe something - panzer dad is originally a Rossa man?

Aye Panzer's da is a Rossa man alright. Gorts had a big fall out during the year i know. Had Sambo down working withy them and it still didn't help

Well its been reflected in their on-field decline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 20, 2011, 08:16:19 PM
Yes strange tho - always thought Gort had good atmosphere in club? Anyone want to offer a reason for the fall out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 20, 2011, 08:29:54 PM
Only know a few of the older fella's up there who wouldn't be playing anymore.  Anytime ive been in the club, there was always a good atmosphere in it.  I'm sure there's enough good people up there to sort their problems out.  Like most clubs they all have their ups and downs.

Just disappointing for the lads up there though after a load of year's work to see so many of their younger members leave to join other clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: 4father on November 20, 2011, 08:29:54 PM
Only know a few of the older fella's up there who wouldn't be playing anymore.  Anytime ive been in the club, there was always a good atmosphere in it.  I'm sure there's enough good people up there to sort their problems out.  Like most clubs they all have their ups and downs.

Just disappointing for the lads up there though after a load of year's work to see so many of their younger members leave to join other clubs.

They amalgamated with St Paul's at minor level this year i think and last maybe also, refereed a few games and was confused when seeing the dads of Gorts men (well they funny enough were rossa and O'Donnell/saccer men) watching their lads hurl for St Paul's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 21, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
They amalgamated with St Paul's at minor level this year i think and last maybe also, refereed a few games and was confused when seeing the dads of Gorts men (well they funny enough were rossa and O'Donnell/saccer men) watching their lads hurl for St Paul's

Are Rossa not strong at underage? According to the Andytown News (bible) they have won just about everything!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: QUB GAA Research on November 21, 2011, 01:45:09 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am a final year student at QUB, and as part of my course I am required to undertake a group piece of research.
We have chosen to do this on the GAA, and the different reasons on player drop-our rates post age 18 between rural and urban areas.

We would be very greatfull if you could take the time to fill out the survey below (it will literally only take 2 minutes).

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q8FYCHK

We've got some great feedback so far, and I think the users on this message board can add valuable contributions to the study.
Please feel free to comment/make sussestions on our thread (below) or on the survey about the topic.

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Thanks Very much!
Go raibh mile maith agat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2011, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 21, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
They amalgamated with St Paul's at minor level this year i think and last maybe also, refereed a few games and was confused when seeing the dads of Gorts men (well they funny enough were rossa and O'Donnell/saccer men) watching their lads hurl for St Paul's

Are Rossa not strong at underage? According to the Andytown News (bible) they have won just about everything!!

They were woeful at minor this year. Entered b championship. The Rossa part was about a Rossa man who left went to got and now at St Paul's!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2011, 01:34:45 PM
Very good editing hardstation  ::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
I had the temerity to question a Rossa lad on this myself!
Jaysus I got some going-over about their successes this year blah blah blah - was it you hardstation???!!!
Fair play to them all the same I support all Belfast clubs (maybe even SIE in February) but Rossa is full of good people.

MR2 - maybe all this violence against our beloved refs might make you think twice?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2011, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
I had the temerity to question a Rossa lad on this myself!
Jaysus I got some going-over about their successes this year blah blah blah - was it you hardstation???!!!
Fair play to them all the same I support all Belfast clubs (maybe even SIE in February) but Rossa is full of good people.

MR2 - maybe all this violence against our beloved refs might make you think twice?!

Referees are not the problem, I've no problem standing over decisions made on the pitch as i see it in that split second and from the view i have. That view or reasoning may not be the same as the players or supporters but it will be my call or the other referees out there, who call it.

Again I couldn't care who wins the match, generally I wont be refereeing my team so I couldn't give a stuff who wins. There are gimps out there who think that you have something against them. I'm not picky, I hate all clubs  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
And mr2 I would suggest we have certain refs who have an agenda against individuals / teams ?

Maybe every county has it - but the black jersey does not guarantee integrity in Antrim!

Only an opinion ofcourse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2011, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
And mr2 I would suggest we have certain refs who have an agenda against individuals / teams ?

Maybe every county has it - but the black jersey does not guarantee integrity in Antrim!

Only an opinion ofcourse.

Well it should bring integrity, you'd be a low life if you wanted to get certain teams, just to do them an injustice. But I feel there is a lot of paranoia about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 10:00:46 PM
I agree there is slot of paranoia - but equally there is some degree of bias / settling scores that goes on. And some is too much. Like I say tho - maybe every county has a bit of it. Fair play to u for doing the duty anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 22, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
Any names u want to throw out gtt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 22, 2011, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 22, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
Any names u want to throw out gtt

Dont go there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2011, 10:23:29 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 22, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
Any names u want to throw out gtt

He's a couple YO, AR, EA, WA, NK, and ER for starters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 22, 2011, 10:26:10 PM

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2011, 10:23:29 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 22, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
Any names u want to throw out gtt

He's a couple YO, AR, EA, WA, NK, and ER for starters
;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 22, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Agreed, this board shouldn't be used to castigate Gaels in the county who decide to take up the whistle. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2011, 11:13:30 PM
And there was me about to open the floodgates!

Well I maintain a few whistlers are slanted against people & clubs but no names seems the consensus.

And yes - no ref = no game and we have plenty doing their honest best.
I will put u in this bracket mr2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 23, 2011, 01:11:58 PM
It takes a lot of balls nowadays to take up the whistle. I can never remember talking to any referee who had an active agenda to do down any particular club. The problem with many so-called "partizans" is that they take even the slightest decision going against their side as evidence of a conspiracy theory against them.

Most, if not all,  referees go out to do an honest job & they don't particularly care what the outcome is in a given match [they are supposed to be neutral, after all].

That's not to say that they get every decision right - but there's a big difference between making an honest mistake in the course of a match & being biased against one of the teams from the outset.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 02:32:38 PM
That's true - in an ideal world.
But as you say yourself "Most if not all" therefore you acknowledge at least the possiblity of biased refs?

I agree - this is not widespread, but I do think we have SOME refs biased against a club or persons.

On the whole, I also think we have refs who do try to influence game tho!
Its human nature!
I am not saying the try to directly affect the outcome, but the whole idea of players "deserving a free" or when refs use "discretion" when applying advantage.
I think this is open to manipulation - and has been manipulated.

But I dont want to sound like a conspiracy theorist - I am only too aware of the job refs do and by and large it is all genuine.
And yes, they are all too often blamed as an excuse to cover up a team or persons failures!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 23, 2011, 02:45:05 PM
I said that deliberately. Of course you can't rule it out 100%.

Most referees are decent enough guys, who set out to do a fairly difficult job. There may be different degrees of ability out there, but being biased is another matter entirely.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 23, 2011, 04:49:15 PM
The referee who officiated in our minor championship match against St Endas was so blatant (for us I hasten to add) it was cringeable. Could not for the life of me understand what was going on. Total coincidence that St Endas and this mans clubs had a bit of bother in the intermediate championship the year before. I guess he just had an off day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 23, 2011, 10:19:35 PM

St Mary's, this afternoon, booked their place in the Irish Daily Mail Hurling Div 2 Final after a brilliant 14 point win over Mary Immaculate of Limerick, in Dublin. They will play Queens University in the Final which will take place on Thursday 1st December.  Venue & Time Unconfirmed.

Not bad for Belfast Hurling?  Other teams in the Division were Jordanstown, Trinity Dublin, Sligo IT, Mary Immaculate Limerick, IT Tralee, NUI Maynooth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
Why Belfast? Surely ulster?? Any team listings or anything?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 23, 2011, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on November 23, 2011, 10:19:35 PM

St Mary's, this afternoon, booked their place in the Irish Daily Mail Hurling Div 2 Final after a brilliant 14 point win over Mary Immaculate of Limerick, in Dublin. They will play Queens University in the Final which will take place on Thursday 1st December.  Venue & Time Unconfirmed.

Not bad for Belfast Hurling?  Other teams in the Division were Jordanstown, Trinity Dublin, Sligo IT, Mary Immaculate Limerick, IT Tralee, NUI Maynooth.

Belfast hurling? I hear Shane McNaughton is playing hurling for them due to some spurious course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2011, 10:52:18 PM
Yeah would imagine there would be a fair amount of lads from all over. Still decent though. But when it comes to the real games will there be the same finalist?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 11:01:44 PM
Hardly! No northern universities play fitzgibbon any more! Interesting game in final all the same...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 23, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
Shane, along with a couple of other fellas from Belfast Tech are playing yea.  The team is really St Mary's/BMC, as neither could field a team without the other. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 23, 2011, 11:08:59 PM
Nice touch Mr2 that level of comedy will serve u well when wearing black.  Hope u can manage it and comedy circuit as well.  No university in north now playing fitzgibbon.  At the minute they wouldn't be worth a shit to top teams. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 23, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
Just puck it, st marys used to play with queens would u not be better with that combo.  Maybe it ain't possibility.  Poly always hoovered up techs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 23, 2011, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 23, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
Just puck it, st marys used to play with queens would u not be better with that combo.  Maybe it ain't possibility.  Poly always hoovered up techs.

Wasn't aware of that SO.  I just know that since St Mary's formed in 2003 they've been able to play players from BMC.  Maybe that's the way things were whenever St Mary's never had a team of their own?

The College is technically a sub-college of Queens, although not too many people in St Mary's see, or acknowledge the connection!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 23, 2011, 11:42:16 PM
But reckon the two would be better to club together.  Yes can imagine the big ball fraternity wouldn't pledge allegiance to crown.  Still living off Peter the greats sigerson win.  For hurlers seems better idea then at least two reasonably strong teams.  But still lot of catch up.  What's new with northern hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 24, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
Good going for the two teams. St Marys beat Queen's a few weeks ago I believe at the Dub. If you have one team then you are denying another 20 players games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 24, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
a derry man now living the dall told me years ago about going to an information night for those interested in becoming referees ( dont know if this was in antrim or derry ). when the lad taking the course asked each person why they were interested in refereeing he got the usual responses, giving something back, club need referees to get fixtures etc, until one lad stood up and said he wanted to referee to "even the score with all the shit decisions he had put up with over the years and get some payback"!! Dont know if he ever made it through to actually refereeing, i hope not! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2011, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 23, 2011, 11:08:59 PM
Nice touch Mr2 that level of comedy will serve u well when wearing black.  Hope u can manage it and comedy circuit as well.  No university in north now playing fitzgibbon.  At the minute they wouldn't be worth a shit to top teams.

No harm intended but wanting posters to name "crap" referees wont serve you well in any circuit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 24, 2011, 05:16:15 PM
Congratulations to Neil Mc Manus, Ulster GAA Writers Hurler Of The Year 2011.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 24, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Well done Neil Mc Manus. Ulster hurler year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 24, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
True but some are cocks, but listen got to thank them for job they do.  Gaa have to do something big in way of communication with ref.  I think the way of rugby with only captains talking.  Interested in other suggestions, the crowd another issue getting out of hand. Two high profile events recently in ulster.  Also end of connaught club final on Sunday, disgusting way ref treated, and this was like teddy bears picnic compared to other events.  Fair play to mc manus hello of hurler.  Pity wasn't few more, even with that attitude.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2011, 09:49:49 PM




Quote from: saffronog on November 24, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
True but some are cocks, but listen got to thank them for job they do.  Gaa have to do something big in way of communication with ref.  I think the way of rugby with only captains talking.  Interested in other suggestions, the crowd another issue getting out of hand. Two high profile events recently in ulster.  Also end of connaught club final on Sunday, disgusting way ref treated, and this was like teddy bears picnic compared to other events.  Fair play to mc manus hello of hurler.  Pity wasn't few more, even with that attitude.

Ex players (well ones that played at a decent enough level) who have a love for hurling well get some respect. But trying to them back to do that will be difficult. Two years max at it would be enough to raise the standard and get the respect into the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 24, 2011, 10:20:50 PM
Difficult getting them coaching never mind referee role.  Either way waiting for long term solution, clubs need to be penalized heavily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
I agree saffronog.

Clubs have simple gotta produce refs in the same way they produce players/mentors.

Existing sanctions like losing fixtures is fair enough.

Once the clubs offer up the refs - then the county has got to have a mechanism to ensure their up to the job.

Mr2 don't forget ray Matthews played county hurling - it didn't help him much!

One other point - we have to address the situation where by a single official, the ref, is expected to control 30players, 2sets of mentors, and god knows what supporters. He is in a vulnerable position as we have seen recently.

And I have no solution to that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
I agree saffronog.

Clubs have simple gotta produce refs in the same way they produce players/mentors.

Existing sanctions like losing fixtures is fair enough.

Once the clubs offer up the refs - then the county has got to have a mechanism to ensure their up to the job.

Mr2 don't forget ray Matthews played county hurling - it didn't help him much!
One other point - we have to address the situation where by a single official, the ref, is expected to control 30players, 2sets of mentors, and god knows what supporters. He is in a vulnerable position as we have seen recently.

And I have no solution to that one!

Refereeing bog ball so it dosen't surprise me ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2011, 11:37:31 PM
True! Point taken!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2011, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2011, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2011, 10:59:16 PM
I agree saffronog.

Clubs have simple gotta produce refs in the same way they produce players/mentors.

Existing sanctions like losing fixtures is fair enough.

Once the clubs offer up the refs - then the county has got to have a mechanism to ensure their up to the job.

Mr2 don't forget ray Matthews played county hurling - it didn't help him much!
One other point - we have to address the situation where by a single official, the ref, is expected to control 30players, 2sets of mentors, and god knows what supporters. He is in a vulnerable position as we have seen recently.

And I have no solution to that one!

Refereeing bog ball so it dosen't surprise me ;)



" BOG BALL" ? Have never heard that expression. Does this refer to the fine game of Gaelic Football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on November 25, 2011, 11:38:24 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2011, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2011, 11:19:39 PM

Refereeing bog ball so it dosen't surprise me ;)

" BOG BALL" ? Have never heard that expression. Does this refer to the fine game of Gaelic Football?

Yes indeed RG it does - that's the general term used by hurlers to describe the less skillful of the two games  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I am now enlightened ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 25, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 11:01:44 PM
Hardly! No northern universities play fitzgibbon any more! Interesting game in final all the same...

2 of the greatest days in my entire GAA life were to watch the Queen's team that beat Maynooth in a Fitzgbbon preliminary at Knockbridge in the early 1980s & then, to top that, getting to a Fitzgibbon Cup final in 1985 against UCC in Croke Park, after beating UCD the day before. They were beaten by 7 points, but no matter - it was some achievement even getting to the final.

QUB were playing divsion 1 universities hurling in those days & they have fallen an almighty way since those heady days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 25, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 25, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I am now enlightened ;D
I prefer "Irish Basketball" ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 25, 2011, 09:22:37 PM

Getting down to the business end in the Leinster and Munster Club Hurling Championships.

Any views on how they will go?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 25, 2011, 10:34:19 PM
Na piarsaigh & oulart for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 26, 2011, 04:40:51 PM
Looking ard to a few beers and tg4, tomorrow, I agree oulart and na piarsaigh to win, and a gort sham final what odds ?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 26, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 27, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
Any team info on those Queens teams? Where were the bulk of players from?

Would be great to see a team step in to Fitzgibbon.

As previously alluded to Dick O'Kane took a good UUJ crop a couple of years ago that got to the B semi/final.

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 25, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 11:01:44 PM
Hardly! No northern universities play fitzgibbon any more! Interesting game in final all the same...

2 of the greatest days in my entire GAA life were to watch the Queen's team that beat Maynooth in a Fitzgbbon preliminary at Knockbridge in the early 1980s & then, to top that, getting to a Fitzgibbon Cup final in 1985 against UCC in Croke Park, after beating UCD the day before. They were beaten by 7 points, but no matter - it was some achievement even getting to the final.

QUB were playing divsion 1 universities hurling in those days & they have fallen an almighty way since those heady days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 27, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
Limerick boys not getting much from ref at minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 27, 2011, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2011, 06:46:33 PM
Bad luck Creggan.

Gory rumours beyond me but nit sure about Rossa - they have a history of turning down people involved in fall-outs with other clubs! See sars and a few johnnies!

Mind u maybe something - panzer dad is originally a Rossa man?

Aye Panzer's da is a Rossa man alright. Gorts had a big fall out during the year i know. Had Sambo down working withy them and it still didn't help

I don't want to return to this for any length of time but just to let you know,i met Martin Flanigan in the bookies yesterday who filled me in on the names of the lads who are exiting. I don't know the kids but I know some of their families.

EDITED.  4 players definitely confirmed as leaving.  I deleted the names there, hardly fair on them.

He seems to think that the club is in turmoil and might even go down in the football and hurling next year because of this and a rake of lads who went to england to study.  Bad times for them.  I'm sure Martin will never tell me a thing again if he sees this!  :D

How's the training going with the Loughguile lads?  I haven't been keeping an eye on the board recently (death in the family) I wish ye all the luck in the world in your fundraising and your on-field preparation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: saffronog on November 27, 2011, 02:32:17 PM
Limerick boys not getting much from ref at minute

Loughgiel will have to play in Antrim colours after today's game i fear. Na Piarsaigh were lucky to win last time out, had a great spell and that effectively won the match for them. They could still get a purple patch again.

Don't be naming names 4father, willy out in bar!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on November 27, 2011, 03:21:42 PM
You're right, deleted the names there.  Didn't think when I wrote that, hardly fair on the lads because its only hearsay
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 27, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
They did hit little purple patch.  Oulart beaten, haven't seen game but laim dunne, and wexford job has had to ne a little distracting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 27, 2011, 04:11:00 PM
Crusheen and Na Piarsaigh a draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 27, 2011, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: Glensman on November 27, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
Any team info on those Queens teams? Where were the bulk of players from?

Would be great to see a team step in to Fitzgibbon.

As previously alluded to Dick O'Kane took a good UUJ crop a couple of years ago that got to the B semi/final.

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 25, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 11:01:44 PM
Hardly! No northern universities play fitzgibbon any more! Interesting game in final all the same...


2 of the greatest days in my entire GAA life were to watch the Queen's team that beat Maynooth in a Fitzgbbon preliminary at Knockbridge in the early 1980s & then, to top that, getting to a Fitzgibbon Cup final in 1985 against UCC in Croke Park, after beating UCD the day before. They were beaten by 7 points, but no matter - it was some achievement even getting to the final.

QUB were playing divsion 1 universities hurling in those days & they have fallen an almighty way since those heady days.

Dick O'Kane took UUJ to a Ryan Cup final (which, as I understand it, is the Division 2 championship) in Dublin 2 years ago where they were beaten by Mary I from Limerick. UUJ had McManus, Graffin and McAuley playing for them - i think Mary I had Shane McGrath of Tipp and Gary Hurney of Waterford playing. UUJ were competitive until they had a man sent off for two quick yellows in the second half.

I'm nearly sure a St Mary's/Belfast Tech combination won the Division 3 cup that weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 27, 2011, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 27, 2011, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: Glensman on November 27, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
Any team info on those Queens teams? Where were the bulk of players from?

Would be great to see a team step in to Fitzgibbon.

As previously alluded to Dick O'Kane took a good UUJ crop a couple of years ago that got to the B semi/final.

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on November 25, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 23, 2011, 11:01:44 PM
Hardly! No northern universities play fitzgibbon any more! Interesting game in final all the same...


2 of the greatest days in my entire GAA life were to watch the Queen's team that beat Maynooth in a Fitzgbbon preliminary at Knockbridge in the early 1980s & then, to top that, getting to a Fitzgibbon Cup final in 1985 against UCC in Croke Park, after beating UCD the day before. They were beaten by 7 points, but no matter - it was some achievement even getting to the final.

QUB were playing divsion 1 universities hurling in those days & they have fallen an almighty way since those heady days.

Dick O'Kane took UUJ to a Ryan Cup final (which, as I understand it, is the Division 2 championship) in Dublin 2 years ago where they were beaten by Mary I from Limerick. UUJ had McManus, Graffin and McAuley playing for them - i think Mary I had Shane McGrath of Tipp and Gary Hurney of Waterford playing. UUJ were competitive until they had a man sent off for two quick yellows in the second half.

I'm nearly sure a St Mary's/Belfast Tech combination won the Division 3 cup that weekend.

Aye the UUJ man sent off was that "Brick" McCarthy from Cushendall.  He was a real prospect back in the minors.  What ever happened to him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on November 27, 2011, 06:47:20 PM
bad run of injuries. cushendall could do with him fit again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 27, 2011, 07:01:14 PM
Injuries bad job, however I had heard attitude was also questionable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 28, 2011, 11:08:10 AM
Shocks for me anyway in the club hurling games - Shamrocks will be rubbing their hands!

I dare say Gort will kiss and make up! Without getting personal names does anyone know what the fall out is over?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 28, 2011, 12:39:41 PM
can honestly say i fancied coolderry, haven't been on this in a bit, Shamrocks will still have to hurl like never before to beat either side, yes of corse any side in Antrim would of took the way the draw could go before a game was played, that being said, will still be very tough, i think i would prefer the Claire men, training starts this week ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 28, 2011, 11:29:06 PM
Joe Brady I think, if that's what u call there centre half back was absolutely superb
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 29, 2011, 08:29:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 28, 2011, 12:39:41 PM
can honestly say i fancied coolderry, haven't been on this in a bit, Shamrocks will still have to hurl like never before to beat either side, yes of corse any side in Antrim would of took the way the draw could go before a game was played, that being said, will still be very tough, i think i would prefer the Claire men, training starts this week ;)

:o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 29, 2011, 09:11:03 AM
There is an All Ireland Club Hurling Thread, can you please stop reminding us Antrim Hurling folk Loughgiel are the only team left in the Championship.  :'(

No word on Jerry Wallis backroom team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 29, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 31, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
::)

Did Oulart win the Wexford championship this year, if so they are a very capable team and should really have won the Leinster Championship last year.  In saying that I believe James Stephens are an excellent side, have been in the shadow of Ballyhale for the last few years but previous All Ireland Champions and at this stage would be favourites for the title, possibly along with Clarinbridge

Practice what you preach Maxpower!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 29, 2011, 11:25:06 AM
indeed i will,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2011, 11:43:51 AM
 :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on November 29, 2011, 12:14:09 PM
Any news on the nominees for the Dunloy management job Max?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 29, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 29, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 31, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
::)

Did Oulart win the Wexford championship this year, if so they are a very capable team and should really have won the Leinster Championship last year.  In saying that I believe James Stephens are an excellent side, have been in the shadow of Ballyhale for the last few years but previous All Ireland Champions and at this stage would be favourites for the title, possibly along with Clarinbridge

Practice what you preach Maxpower!

Sambo's on as a selector and another Cork man.

Johnny Tosh helping out with the U21s and not sure about the minors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on November 29, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: gelvis on November 29, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 29, 2011, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 31, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on October 31, 2011, 11:53:14 AM
I'd put a few euro on boden myself, wexford champagne who I struggle to spell could give cats champs their fill of it
::)

Did Oulart win the Wexford championship this year, if so they are a very capable team and should really have won the Leinster Championship last year.  In saying that I believe James Stephens are an excellent side, have been in the shadow of Ballyhale for the last few years but previous All Ireland Champions and at this stage would be favourites for the title, possibly along with Clarinbridge

Practice what you preach Maxpower!

Sambo's on as a selector and another Cork man.

Johnny Tosh helping out with the U21s and not sure about the minors.

Minors - Sambo & Woody so I've heard!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 29, 2011, 05:50:37 PM
Just had a look on the county web site. Paul Shields asked to attend the next hurling trial. Surely he'd have been one of the first names on the team sheet? Strange!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2011, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 29, 2011, 05:50:37 PM
Just had a look on the county web site. Paul Shields asked to attend the next hurling trial. Surely he'd have been one of the first names on the team sheet? Strange!!!
He's an excellent hurler. I'd have liked to have thought he'd have been one of the first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 29, 2011, 06:40:41 PM
Sie and jj maybe there putting a few better hurlers in there to test a few hopefuls they have eye on.  Maybe not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2011, 08:59:19 PM
I called down the other Saturday and noticed Shane McNaughton warming up, maybe he was doing the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on November 30, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
Anyone for casement the night, rough nite to be impressing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 01, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
I'd imagine there would be more at Casement tonight for the St Marys v Queens game. Should be a good contest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 01, 2011, 10:01:56 PM
Any word of casement result ?? Reckon queens if they can curb sambo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2011, 10:23:54 PM
Queens won easily enough. Poor standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 01, 2011, 10:27:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 01, 2011, 10:23:54 PM
Queens won easily enough. Poor standard.

Yeah mate was at it and said it was dire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2011, 10:31:58 PM
It's bloody December!!!

Hurling this time of the year is madness. In saying that we play Burt on Sunday up in Maghera in the Ulster hurling league final!!! I will be brining my gear. Final senior game without a doubt  :'(

I should get game time cause everyone will be still in bed FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 02, 2011, 08:31:56 AM
Interesting start to Mr Watson's trip to San Francisco!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 02, 2011, 08:48:28 AM
Must have missed that Cloot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 02, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 02, 2011, 08:48:28 AM
Must have missed that Cloot?

Pulled by immigration on arrival. Was detained for 3 hours while they debated sending him back or not. Eventually let in for weekend with warning not to overstay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on December 02, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Well at least Watson got past USA immigration handier than he got past Aaron Graffin in the past 2 county finals haha (Before all the shamrocks remind me who won the last 2 finals it is only a bit of fun!!!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on December 02, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
whats going on with Johnnies?
Heard rumour of bust up?

Players leaving to Rossa and Galls?

Anyone shed any light?

Good source, which is why i ask!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 02, 2011, 02:48:27 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on December 02, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Well at least Watson got past USA immigration handier than he got past Aaron Graffin in the past 2 county finals haha (Before all the shamrocks remind me who won the last 2 finals it is only a bit of fun!!!)

:D
And while they were worrying about Watson a number of lesser known assassins (read McCarry, Laverty, McAuley) got in behind their 'defence'.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 02, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Surprised Ballymena FC gave him the weekend off to go!  ;)

Wonder how big Denver will cope with out token around the place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
I read that Aodhan Gallagher has opted to stay with the footballers. Pity that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 02, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
Watson said richie power looked as if he was goin cry.  Another impressive press release on back of John gardiner remark.  Well named.  Graffin a bit of golden boy, him and Watson would be good contest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on December 02, 2011, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 02, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
Watson said richie power looked as if he was goin cry.  Another impressive press release on back of John gardiner remark.  Well named.  Graffin a bit of golden boy, him and Watson would be good contest

There's more sense written on the windows of them yellow busses than what you post on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 02, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
Gelvis I'd say u have licked a few windows in your time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: gelvis on December 02, 2011, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 02, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
Watson said richie power looked as if he was goin cry.  Another impressive press release on back of John gardiner remark.  Well named.  Graffin a bit of golden boy, him and Watson would be good contest

There's more sense written on the windows of them yellow busses than what you post on this.
+1 :D   hahahaha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 02, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
Wouldn't do to criticise the star.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on December 02, 2011, 11:54:19 PM
PDiddy, I knew there would be one haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2011, 11:56:20 PM
Saffronog, what did you mean by "well named"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 01:43:47 AM
Regards his nick name sie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2011, 09:44:24 AM
Quote from: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 01:43:47 AM
Regards his nick name sie
Winker?  I'm confused.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 01:16:09 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2011, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 01:16:09 PM
Yeah
I think you've maybe caught the wrong end of the stick saffronog. We wouldn't want that to happen now, would we? As in people named Murphy get called "spud", people named Watson get called "winker" after the comic strip character in The Dandy a few years back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winker_Watson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
Yeah that would be the conclusion most people draw I'd say ??? But in his remarks to press I think he should wise up.  Guess always WAY with the most talented.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2011, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
Yeah that would be the conclusion most people draw I'd say ??? But in his remarks to press I think he should wise up.  Guess always WAY with the most talented.
I don't think anyone can construe any maliciousness in his comments. The way I read it he was stating how RP was feeling at also being held by immigration. Maybe you're reading a bit too much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on December 03, 2011, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2011, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
Yeah that would be the conclusion most people draw I'd say ??? But in his remarks to press I think he should wise up.  Guess always WAY with the most talented.
I don't think anyone can construe any maliciousness in his comments. The way I read it he was stating how RP was feeling at also being held by immigration. Maybe you're reading a bit too much into it.

No, he's right.  The next time Antrim play KK Cody will have those comments pinned to the wall and RP will lead the talk of why everyone should get sailed into LW to make sure Antrim don't beat them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
What did Watson say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 03, 2011, 04:10:32 PM
SIE MAYBE AM READING INTO IT TOO MUCH, BUT HE NEEDS TO THINK A LITTLE.  AS FOR CODY PINNING IT TO WALL DON'T THINK HE'D NEED TO.  Listen he is very talented but his press remarks don't help him or reflect well for ulster hurling.  Maybe richie had a hanky out but keep it quiet. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2011, 04:26:47 PM
Is anyone going to tell me what he said???
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Post by: Magicsponge on December 03, 2011, 04:57:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 03, 2011, 04:26:47 PM
Is anyone going to tell me what he said???

He said "Me and Richie Power were in together, I thought he was going to cry at the time" When they were being detained in the US due to visa problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
Jesus Christ grow f**king up!!!  anything to be santering!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on December 03, 2011, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
Jesus Christ grow f**king up!!!  anything to be santering!!

Yep.  Somebody should of said that to W4nker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
I'm getting visions of mountains and molehills here and jumping bandwagons. It wasn't malicious at all. If anyone else had have said it no one would have been commenting on it at all. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on December 04, 2011, 04:12:47 PM
Youse won't be having nightmares about Crusheen or Na Piarsaigh on these performances anyway.  ;D  Youse will want the Limerick boys saying as they depend so much on Dowling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2011, 05:02:31 PM
I think Na Piarsaigh hurled rightly them last 15 minutes B+A. We'll have to get Liam to call Dowling a cry baby since what he says has such influence on other teams' players. 

Were yous boys having a laugh or what? It gave me the giggles I have to say.    :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 04, 2011, 07:10:09 PM
Na pairsaigh have some real talent though reckon wee lad who got the 1-3 near the death in that game won't trouble ding gillan.  However unless there is serious lapse in concentration and an bit of under estimating I expect, Shams to be defeated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on December 04, 2011, 07:59:03 PM
I think youse are in with a real shout now. Crusheen ran out of steam in the 2nd half after last weeks efforts. Na Piarsaigh are weak in defence except for that O'Brien and he's a bit slow. Downes was disapponiting and saffronogs right about Gillan.  Dowling is class but looks like he might be inconsistent.

Bodies to meet another Offaly team in the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
That would be great B+A but no one in Loughgiel is thinking like that. We all know we're big underdogs for the semi and rightly so. However, if we play well and the ball rolls for us we're capable of beating Na Piarsiagh. I still say it's a big ask. But you never know.  Roll on February!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 04, 2011, 09:40:24 PM
I know its rough guide, but a team that gets to final on st paddys tends to he giving the county teams a good run for their money in challenge games.  Hopefully no Walsh cup games will allow a few challenge games for jerry and his merry men.  Laois, wexford, westmeath should tell Shams if they'll be close.  Did they play any of these last year Sie.  If so how did they get on????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
I think they held Wexford to 5 or 6 last time out Saffron og. Not sure though. No doubt there'll be a few games down south before feb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2011, 10:02:42 PM
Would have less chat about it lads in fairness, the Limerick team know they are no world beaters and will certainly go into this game expecting it to be real tough, with the experience that Loughgiel have they won't underestimate ya's.

Have said already that this was the best draw, (Munster) as they haven't been great of late so it's all down to the prep work put in from now to Feb. Some teams would be better suited to play off the games now and not have the wait over Xmas and Jan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 04, 2011, 10:08:33 PM
actually held James Stephens to a draw last year in friendly, again, these games mean nothing,  i expect a serious hard game in Feb,  better chance playing a 'bigger name'  more chance they would take the win for granted,   this is there first time here and wont be taking anyone lightly i would think, will be a big ask, but you never no!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2011, 10:19:50 PM
The wee corner forward couldn't hit a barn door until the last 5 and then went on fire. Downes is a great player - any time he got the ball today he was instantly surrounded - Loughgiel will need to do the same.

Putting high balls in and around O'Brien looks like a no no too.

Na Parsiagh strong favourites but sure nothing to lose for Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 04, 2011, 10:43:51 PM
Mean nothing results wise sg, but important, especially for Shams as have been pushed that much and havent had serious game for long time.  It also will give Shams management chance to see there first 20.  The guy downes is superb, I think he won't be as physically challenge against mcgarry.  Dowling midfield special.  It will take shamrocks running and taking on men.  Mccloskey on form no problem, wee benny boy and off course the man himself.  No nonsense with frees this time either.  A good start can put serious pressure on a team, but na pairsaigh have been battled hardened and stack  will have them focused and champing at bit.  Look forward to Feb definitely, double header on tg4 me hopes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
You could run a bus with all the Ballymena ones Saff ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
You could run a bus with all the Ballymena ones Saff ;)
Sure you could catch a lift with them, save on the oul red biddy MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
I'll be there, like i was last time and the years before. I'll stay over, have a few to celebrate also ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 05, 2011, 10:55:43 AM
Here guys, didn't you know Max had banned all talk of this All Ireland melarky  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 05, 2011, 10:57:07 AM
Any white smoke from the Dunloy camp yet on their new manager?  Decision was to be made last night.  Maybe we're not allowed to talk about that either  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 05, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
Query - may be a general one but also applies in Antrim (given the Rasharkin sanctions).

A team gets banned for a year...

1. Do they get relegated immediately? (and therefore does a team that got relegated the year before have a claim to be reinstated?).

OR

2. Do they sit at the bottom of the table, with 0 points, and simly get relegated as the bottom club the following year?


This is all dependent on whether the relevant club in question wins any appeal etc of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2011, 11:52:08 AM
My take on it would be that they would stay effectively in the division and be relegated at the end of the year with no points. I dont think that any relegated team would have any course for reinstatement into their previous division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on December 05, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 05, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
Query - may be a general one but also applies in Antrim (given the Rasharkin sanctions).

A team gets banned for a year...

1. Do they get relegated immediately? (and therefore does a team that got relegated the year before have a claim to be reinstated?).

OR

2. Do they sit at the bottom of the table, with 0 points, and simly get relegated as the bottom club the following year?


This is all dependent on whether the relevant club in question wins any appeal etc of course.

I would imagine they would stay in Div 1 (football) and Div 3 (hurling) this year but would be unable to play their games and therefore get relegated that way. If they were relegated straight away would this not mean they would be relegated twice, in football anyway as they wouldn't be able to play games in div 2 or 4. It would be easier to let them stay in their current divisions this year because if they got relegated immediately then you would have to decide what teams would be in the divisions impacted by this, would rasharkin take moneglasses/Glenravel's place in getting relegated or would Portglenone/St Teresa's be promoted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 05, 2011, 01:51:29 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 05, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
Query - may be a general one but also applies in Antrim (given the Rasharkin sanctions).

A team gets banned for a year...

1. Do they get relegated immediately? (and therefore does a team that got relegated the year before have a claim to be reinstated?).

OR

2. Do they sit at the bottom of the table, with 0 points, and simly get relegated as the bottom club the following year?


This is all dependent on whether the relevant club in question wins any appeal etc of course.

We would in theory still be in Div 1 football and Div 3 hurling for the 2012 season, still have to pay our affiliations etc. As the judgement stands at mo we could not fulfill  any fixture and would finish the season with zero points and would thus be relegated at the end of the 2012 season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 05, 2011, 01:58:05 PM
Who is in for the Dunloy job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 05, 2011, 02:41:04 PM
Club AGM time of year then!
Keep us all in the loop with any developments I will try to do some News of the World style mitching on the Belfast clubs!
Is county convention left until after the club AGM's then?
As an optimisit I am choosing to view this is the testing ground for the new season and a light at the ent of the dark winter!
If only we could all be more like the Shamrocks and still be in this season!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 05, 2011, 03:28:29 PM
mr2 still barking up the wrong tree, not a sham, but if they get to final i will go and support.  one thing i'll say is they are probably one of the best supported clubs in ireland.  always take a crowd with them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 05, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
I hear Jerry made the phone calls tonight and has finalised a 35 man squad for the National League.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2011, 10:13:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 05, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
I hear Jerry made the phone calls tonight and has finalised a 35 man squad for the National League.

Just off the phone there, told him i wasn't interested and he needs to go with youth ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 06, 2011, 11:00:06 AM
Jerry has a preference for good athletes by all accounts, has this thrown up any otherwise surprise inclusions. Opens the door for you MR2 ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
We have three on the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
We have three on the panel.

Mark Nulty, Micky Gettins and Shannon? Those were the three that reached the last trials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
We have three on the panel.

Mark Nulty, Micky Gettins and Shannon? Those were the three that reached the last trials.

Yup, they are announcing the panel tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
We have three on the panel.

Mark Nulty, Micky Gettins and Shannon? Those were the three that reached the last trials.

Yup, they are announcing the panel tomorrow I think.

Haven't heard from our boys yet. Do you think your boys would be upto that standard? Wouldn't think Nulty is up to that level, but he would give you everything he has. Gettin's apparently showed well at the trials and I suppose we would always have been a maybe for a few years. Both are 28/29 now so I'm not sure if they could improve to the level required. Shannon would be 25? He's improved a fair bit in the last couple of years to be fair to him.

I would have thought that Kevin McDonnell would have been in with a good shout considering its forwards that Antrim really need
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 06, 2011, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 06, 2011, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 06, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
We have three on the panel.

Mark Nulty, Micky Gettins and Shannon? Those were the three that reached the last trials.

Kevin would be the first one to tell you he has had a bad year. He is only 21 so he will always have another chance

Yup, they are announcing the panel tomorrow I think.

Haven't heard from our boys yet. Do you think your boys would be upto that standard? Wouldn't think Nulty is up to that level, but he would give you everything he has. Gettin's apparently showed well at the trials and I suppose we would always have been a maybe for a few years. Both are 28/29 now so I'm not sure if they could improve to the level required. Shannon would be 25? He's improved a fair bit in the last couple of years to be fair to him.

I would have thought that Kevin McDonnell would have been in with a good shout considering its forwards that Antrim really need

Kevin is still only 21 and has had a poor season. He would be the first to admit that. He can always go again next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
I think Gettens is definitely up to it, as much as half the panel are up to it, he has come on in a big way for us in the last 2 years, physically as much as anything. Not sure about Nulty, as you say he will give you everything and he performed very well at the last trial by all accounts so that's why he is there. I would have Gettens as similar level if not better than Kieran McGourty for example so he should alright.

I would wonder about some of the current Antrim panellists, and how good they are so a bit of competition will do no harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2011, 02:32:58 PM
Agreed competition will be a good. I think the question needs to be asked as to why we are lacking the numbers of forwards with real threat? It needs attention at development squad level IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 06, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
Its coaching IMO, its not hard to create a destructive force far more difficult to nurture and develop flair and players with vision, thats were the skill comes in through coaching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
Is PJ O'Connell on the team? Karl Stewart is a cracking forward, Shane McNaughton also Loughgiel have decent forwards also. I don't think we are too bad in the scoring forwards department. It's just that we have Karl and Shane to a lesser degree playing midfield at times.

If we could get players to fill in those outfield positions and let these lads play on the FF line we would have strength and skill on that line. Getting the ball in is the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2011, 06:20:04 PM
I agree MR2 the likes of Shane and stewarty are good out in midfield but would be needed as inside forwards if we are to pose a threat - but how then would we get the ball into them?

However - Is this not just another way of saying we don't have 15 good enough players to spread around the pitch!

Some problems can't be solved so easily!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
I would have your man gettens well ahead of mc courty imo.  Shams if they throw up 3 starting forwards we would be doing well, don't know any of other lads mentioned.  Shane on first 15 with current form.  What about mcgill form cdall ?? When is list up.  Oisin og do u feel these guys will train religiously, that's whats needed, plenty of ex panelists couldn't show this commitment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 06, 2011, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
I would have your man gettens well ahead of mc courty imo.  Shams if they throw up 3 starting forwards we would be doing well, don't know any of other lads mentioned.  Shane on first 15 with current form.  What about mcgill form cdall ?? When is list up.  Oisin og do u feel these guys will train religiously, that's whats needed, plenty of ex panelists couldn't show this commitment

Nulty and Gettins are two of the best trainers in the club. The only thing is they both have young baby's. Though I suppose that's as good a reason to go to training as any
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2011, 06:56:49 PM
Mushy got the Dunloy job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 06, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
I would have your man gettens well ahead of mc courty imo.  Shams if they throw up 3 starting forwards we would be doing well, don't know any of other lads mentioned.  Shane on first 15 with current form.  What about mcgill form cdall ?? When is list up.  Oisin og do u feel these guys will train religiously, that's whats needed, plenty of ex panelists couldn't show this commitment
Gettens is older now and hopefully wiser so unlikely to repeat the mistakes of the past. He was a skinny wee runt years ago but is now well conditioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 07:19:13 PM
Is this a step forward for dunloy ???

What mistakes are those tony baloney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 06, 2011, 08:00:53 PM
Mushy is a good man, I'm sure he'll do a good job.

On Mickey Gettins, a good player, man of the match when we played Glenarrife this year, will do well, though if Neil McManus is to be played as a CHB, Graffin and McAuley either side would be hard to argue with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
Would be great if we had two big strong fit midfielders who could hurl as well. NMcM playing center half as you say Max would certainly make us a stronger team. I don't think he'll be fit for a well though.

If I'm honest i don't see any real talent coming through, If the McCanns could get up to any decent standard then they would be an asset but playing Div 3/4? hurling will only make it harder for them to improve
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 08:42:55 PM
Reckon that chb is mcmanus best position, but need him in forwards as for ball winning. despite popular belief in the dall I think graffin though very effective is well short of what mcmanus could give.  Stewart maybe now at stage were he would be better in forwards full time.  Yes certainly require a few powerful midfielders.  Unless they travel up with jerry can't see where we will get them.  Mc canns just don't have hurling.  Would really have liked to see natty lad, but if he ain't 100% forget it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2011, 08:53:46 PM
Conor McCann has a lot of potential. I don't think there's the same in Thomas no harm to him.

McManus would be a great CHB however we need him in forward like we did with Gary O'Kane. Dall do too.

I think Stewart's best position CHF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2011, 08:53:46 PM
Conor McCann has a lot of potential. I don't think there's the same in Thomas no harm to him.

McManus would be a great CHB however we need him in forward like we did with Gary O'Kane. Dall do too.

I think Stewart's best position CHF.

It's a hateful position in my opinion Tommy. The other teams best player normally operates in that position. It really stops one of our better players from playing i believe especially when playing the stronger counties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2011, 09:09:19 PM
I think he fits the position well though MR.

Midfield a problem position for us though. It's kind of square pegs round holes there. Given what we've got I would expect Stewart to be there but I just think, from what I have seen of him, CHF looks like his best position.

I think that McManus is generally taken away from CHF for the reason you talk about - the players at CHB. When we played Dublin a few times Joey Boland completely nullified him when he was at CHF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2011, 09:26:44 PM
Limited i know, a fully fit, decent 20 players all rowing in behind Jerry would fill me with hope but hard to get that. Even more so lately.

Most here are happy for Neil to be playing CHB and with Hippy at FB that's great for the team. Some managers pick their defence first, meaning they believe, that having a strong defence will stop or curtail the other team. Others look at their star forwards and hope that the ball will make it in.

For me Antrim aren't strong enough when playing the bigger teams so if we have our stronger players in their best positions then it's a building block to progress. To win the games though we also need strong forwards but our 2 better forwards I think have been playing midfield. Shorty, Karl and Shane have all filled that role for us.

But lose midfield then you have lost the match, catch 22 at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 06, 2011, 11:23:34 PM
Could Brendan Herron be tempted back with a new manager (and optimism)? He was good in midfield a couple of years back and in my humble opinion is a better hurler than Gaelic player.

It would free up one of those midfield slots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 06, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
Certainly fit the athletic, strong  physically able player we would need in there Would like to see him, what age is he ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on December 07, 2011, 01:34:22 AM
Whats going on up at St Johns? Rumours of trouble...?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 07, 2011, 09:45:17 AM
That would mean trouble in both St Johns and Gort?

Is there something in the water up the Whiterock!!

Lamh Dearg AGM passed on Sunday. Hurlers looking to push on from what they judged a successful year (true) and have similar set up. I think they are one of the stronger teams in that division when going well. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 07, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Brendan Herron would be 28


From Hoganstand...


Karl McKeegan has brought the curtain down on his 10-year Antrim hurling career.

The Cushendall clubman, who won 10 Ulster SHC medals and captained the Saffrons to a Christy Ring Cup win in 2006, said it wasn't a decision he took lightly.

"I have done a fair bit of thinking over this past few weeks and I just felt, at 33, it gets harder every year," the defender told the Irish News.

"Jerry (Wallis, Antrim's new manager) is going to look for a big commitment this year. I thought to myself that I couldn't do it. I can't see myself being out on a pitch for two or three months so that made my mind up."

McKeegan, who follows Ciaran Herron into retirement, will continue to line out for Cushendall.

"The club has been good to me over the last 10 years when I have been with the county and they have supported me," he continued.

"Now I would like to give them as best I can. I still feel I have a good bit to offer and I want to give that back to the club. I just think you can't do both when you get to my age - it gets harder.

"I would love to (play on), but I just don't think I could give it the full commitment. I think if you can't give it the full commitment, then you definitely shouldn't be there. That's why I have decided to step down."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 07, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
Fair play to Karl. He had a fine IC career. Lead by example on the pitch. Seemed to play well more consistently when he wore the saffron jersey not that hes a bad club hurler mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 07, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 07, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
Fair play to Karl. He had a fine IC career. Lead by example on the pitch. Seemed to play well more consistently when he wore the saffron jersey not that hes a bad club hurler mind.
Possibly cos he was played for the majority of his IC career in the one position(centre half)...where as for C'Dall he played in defence/midfield & Forwards. But he was super for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 07, 2011, 10:39:45 AM
I would imagine that he will have better club form this year strangely as he always seemed to be injured or tired when it came to the serious end of the club championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 07, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
Hopefully we will still get a few more years from Karl. Great servant to Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 07, 2011, 01:26:40 PM
all the best to Karl Mc Keegan, in his pomp he held the center as good as any southern CHB. committed to every ball. My kind of hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 07, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
On another note Dunloy I see appoint from within the club again, good to see so many of their ex-players willing to get back involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 07, 2011, 03:55:29 PM
Karl always won and lost with dignity and class. Good guy all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2011, 04:05:11 PM
yeah would echo all the points made about Karl, never left much behind when playing for Antrim. For someone who didn't come through the ranks of the underage set ups, (I believe, could be corrected) is a testament to his attitude.

Though he did take a wile amount of steps  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 07, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
And fouled for that at least once every match  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 07, 2011, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2011, 04:05:11 PM
yeah would echo all the points made about Karl, never left much behind when playing for Antrim. For someone who didn't come through the ranks of the underage set ups, (I believe, could be corrected) is a testament to his attitude.

Though he did take a wile amount of steps  ;)

He played Under 21, so you are corrected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 07, 2011, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2011, 04:05:11 PM
yeah would echo all the points made about Karl, never left much behind when playing for Antrim. For someone who didn't come through the ranks of the underage set ups, (I believe, could be corrected) is a testament to his attitude.

Though he did take a wile amount of steps  ;)

He played Under 21, so you are corrected.

Quote from: NAG1 on December 07, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
And fouled for that at least once every match  :D

NAG1 as a defender i always hated when lads took more steps than they should, i would have been fit enough and quick enough to track and when he should have released the ball I would have wailed in. Only to hear the referee blow for me fouling him, this was after the player took 5/6 steps!!!

But when I got older and moved up front I found out that referee's give you more steps!!!

Cheers minder, ya fooking anorack
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
Karl played wing half forward for the minors one year too. 96 I think it was.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 07, 2011, 05:19:53 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 07, 2011, 01:26:40 PM
all the best to Karl Mc Keegan, in his pomp he held the center as good as any southern CHB. committed to every ball. My kind of hurler

+1
That year we had Tipp running scared at Croke (winning at half time) him, McCambridge and Herron were class.
Would love to see that game again.

For a man that is quite slight and not exactly a bodybuilder he often came out of rucks with the ball and had the ability to raise his game and that of those around him (last 5 minutes v St Galls this year in LG is a prime example).

It's not a eulogy though. He's still going!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 07, 2011, 05:22:58 PM
Anybody know this was coming out????

From RTE website:

It has been revealed that Antrim struggled to field a team in the All-Ireland Under-21 semi-final this year.

County Secretary Francis Quinn revealed in his annual report that last-ditch phone calls had to be made to ensure Antrim had enough players for the clash with Dublin.

Antrim went on to lose 3-23 to 0-06 in a match that was shown live on TV.

Quinn said in the report: "In all my years of attending Antrim games, as both a supporter and an administrator, this ranks as one of the worst I have ever endured.

"As we assembled to depart Casement Park for the game we were frantically ringing players in an attempt to ensure we had enough players to field a team. Given the profile of Antrim hurling this type of attitude and preparation is simply unacceptable."

"Serious thought has to be given to this age group to ensure that we prepare in a manner benefiting the status of Ulster champions."

At senior level, former Antrim hurling captain Karl McKeegan has announced his retirement. The Cushendall defender led the county to Christy Ring Cup success in 2006. Fellow defender Ciaran Herron also retired from inter-county competition recently.

A trial game for the senior hurling squad was held on 30 November and a senior squad for the season is due to be announced tomorrow>


Can I add to the general sentiments of appreciation for all the efforts Karl McK has made for Antrim hurling over the last 10 years - never gave anything less than his best in the cause.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 07, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
Karl played wing half forward for the minors one year too. 96 I think it was.

Yeah I think you are right, Cloot took them that year and they took a tanking against Tipp in the AISF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 07, 2011, 08:07:07 PM
They have taken a good few tankings since as well.  Under 21s a disgrace, tosh has work cut out, who is with him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 07, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
Karl played wing half forward for the minors one year too. 96 I think it was.

Yeah I think you are right, Cloot took them that year and they took a tanking against Tipp in the AISF.

There was a year where we had a great showing against KK and nearly won. McFall and Conor Cunning were on the team - Pinky Kelly too if I recall correctly. Was that 95 or 96? It was the year Danny McNaughton died but maybe that was the year before Karl played minors. Conor Cunning was maybe a minor a year or two early as he was outstanding at that age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 07, 2011, 10:39:00 PM
Danny(RIP) died in 1996.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:42:22 PM
Then I think that was the year Karl played. He wasn't on the team in the AI- just the ulster final.

That was a very good minor team actually - the best I've seen by a mile bar the one with Neil McManus / McNaughton etc on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 07, 2011, 10:50:47 PM
Just wondering how many of that minor team ie mcmanus made it through.

N mc manus
A graffin
C donnelly
E mc closkey ?
B mc faul
S mc naughton.

Probably not a bad return
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:57:23 PM
N McAuley
S McRory(Crory)

I would say Colm McFall has made it from there too.

Not too sure who else. Thought Randal McDonnell would have made it a bit further.

Can't recall who else was on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 07, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
Shorty & Chrissy as well. I think Neal McAuley & Graffin were injured for the Limerick match. Paddy McGill played that day too. That was a seriously talented team by Antrim
Standards. CJ could have played only he was chucked off the panel earlier that year(I think)
Collie McFall wasn't on the 05/06 teams. Couple of years older.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 11:07:14 PM
McAuley came on late as a sub that day but was carrying an injury. He came on at full forward late on.

I'm not sure Graffin was quite on the team at that stage. I do recall they played galway prior to that match in a friendly and he was supposed to have held Canning scoreless so was heralded as a great talent and do think he was injured but not sure he was on the 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 07, 2011, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 07, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
Karl played wing half forward for the minors one year too. 96 I think it was.

Yeah I think you are right, Cloot took them that year and they took a tanking against Tipp in the AISF.

There was a year where we had a great showing against KK and nearly won. McFall and Conor Cunning were on the team - Pinky Kelly too if I recall correctly. Was that 95 or 96? It was the year Danny McNaughton died but maybe that was the year before Karl played minors. Conor Cunning was maybe a minor a year or two early as he was outstanding at that age.

Pretty sure that was 1995 as they played before the Clare v Galway AISF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 07, 2011, 11:12:15 PM
I definitely think he would have started that day if fit. Very good return of senior players from them 2 years. Those players are the spine of our senior team & still only 23/24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 07, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:42:22 PM
Then I think that was the year Karl played. He wasn't on the team in the AI- just the ulster final.

That was a very good minor team actually - the best I've seen by a mile bar the one with Neil McManus / McNaughton etc on it.

Wasn't there two good teams in a row - the first should have beaten Limerick and the second was unlucky to lose to Galway. McManus was on Joe Canning and did extremely well on him. Paul Shields and (I think) Darren Hamill were on that team, along with Graffin and Hippy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 07, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
That's as good a return as ever u would get.  Yeah mcdonnell was talented, not bad at basketball but lazy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 07, 2011, 11:19:43 PM
We got close to cork around then as well. Played them in Parnell park with most their team goin on to win an all Ireland with jimmy Barry Murphy. Not sure if Karl played then but that was as good a showing I can remember from u21s?

1998: cork 3-15 Antrim 0-11
Antrim level at half Time - Joe Deane, Ronan curran etc went on to win all-Ireland that year and follow it up at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 07, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:42:22 PM
Then I think that was the year Karl played. He wasn't on the team in the AI- just the ulster final.

That was a very good minor team actually - the best I've seen by a mile bar the one with Neil McManus / McNaughton etc on it.

Wasn't there two good teams in a row - the first should have beaten Limerick and the second was unlucky to lose to Galway. McManus was on Joe Canning and did extremely well on him. Paul Shields and (I think) Darren Hamill were on that team, along with Graffin and Hippy.

A lot of the team was the same for both years. (At least half I'd say). Disappointing to not get a win against any of the southern teams with that crop.

Yeah Minder think you could be right - it was 95. All Antrim's opponents from early - mid nineties on blurred into one with the hammerings we got so very easy to confuse the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 07, 2011, 11:32:58 PM
Did Derry get (relatively) close to Kilkenny once in the mid 1990s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 08, 2011, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 07, 2011, 11:13:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 10:42:22 PM
Then I think that was the year Karl played. He wasn't on the team in the AI- just the ulster final.

That was a very good minor team actually - the best I've seen by a mile bar the one with Neil McManus / McNaughton etc on it.

Wasn't there two good teams in a row - the first should have beaten Limerick and the second was unlucky to lose to Galway. McManus was on Joe Canning and did extremely well on him. Paul Shields and (I think) Darren Hamill were on that team, along with Graffin and Hippy.

A lot of the team was the same for both years. (At least half I'd say). Disappointing to not get a win against any of the southern teams with that crop.

Yeah Minder think you could be right - it was 95. All Antrim's opponents from early - mid nineties on blurred into one with the hammerings we got so very easy to confuse the years.

There is a photo of that team somewhere on the net, will try and track it down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on December 08, 2011, 12:32:52 AM
Just saw it in the Irish News today that Karl McKeegan had officially retired. What a player he was throughout the years and such a great servant to the county team. All the best to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2011, 11:07:14 PM
McAuley came on late as a sub that day but was carrying an injury. He came on at full forward late on.

I'm not sure Graffin was quite on the team at that stage. I do recall they played galway prior to that match in a friendly and he was supposed to have held Canning scoreless so was heralded as a great talent and do think he was injured but not sure he was on the 15.

I think Graffin had a knee injury which he suffered in training. Neil McAuley had a severe back problem I'm sure at that age

The two Dallats from Ballycastle played that year? Ryan Donnelly would have also played

Edit- picture of squad- http://www.sportsfiledublin.com/id/217029/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 12:11:49 PM
I see Watson has packed the football in.

This is a good boost for the Shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 12:51:06 PM
Well here is the 36 what do you think



1 Neal McAuley     Ballycastle          23  Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
2 Cormac DonnellyBallycastle         24 John Kerr Rossa
3 K.B. McShane Ballycastle          25 Mark Rea Sarsfields
4 Sean McLaughlin Carey Faughs 26 Ciarnan Rea Sarsfields
5 P.J. O'Connell Clooney Gaels 27 Darren Hamill S O'Neill's
6 Shane McNaughton Cushendall 28 Kevin Grieves St Agnes
7 Aaron Graffin Cushendall   29 Karl Stewart St Galls
8 Neil McManus Cushendall 30 Kieran McGourty St Galls
9 Ronan Kearney Cushendall 31 Barry McFall St John's
10 Conor Carson Cushendall         32 Simon McCrory St John's
11 Cathair Cunning Dunloy         33 Adrian Downey St John's
12 Paul Shields Dunloy         34 Colm McFall St John's
13 Mark Nulty Glenariffe             35 Cairbre O'Caireallain St Paul's
14 Seanan McToal Glenariffe        36 Kevin Sheehan Tír Na nOg
15 Michael Gettins Glenariffe
16 Damien Quinn Loughgiel
17 Chris O'Connell Loughgiel
18 Barney  McAuley Loughgiel
19 John Campbell Loughgiel
20 Eddie McCloskey Loughgiel
21 Joey Scullion Loughgiel
22 Liam Watson Loughgiel

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 08, 2011, 01:28:08 PM
So it is actually a training panel that will be cut before the first league game by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
I heard its going to be reviewed again in February. There are 4 keepers named there.

If you take away the 7 loughgiel players there is still more that the normal National League Panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
I think it is a good decision to name 36 - allows for the extra numbers until the Shamrocks return - then cut it when they do. As for the actual 36 I dont think we should read alot into it until the national league squad is announced - then we can all disagree!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 01:46:30 PM
Only one Rossa man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 08, 2011, 01:59:36 PM
Noticed that one myself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on December 08, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
Yeah, just one is a bit disappointing. I thought Michael Turley would have got a look in given his recent form with Queens. I think Michael Armstrong is concentrating on Football with the County this year as well.

There was a bit more added on the County website

The following Players who have/were involved in the Antrim Senior Hurling Panel of 2011 are not included in the initial 2012 Senior Inter-County Hurling Training Group.
*These Players have personally indicated their intentions to retire from Inter-County Hurling to Diarmuid de Bhailis, Bainisteoir Foirne 2012

Ciaran Herron   Kevin Lynch's
Karl McKeegan   Cushendall
Sean Delargy   Cushendall



*The following Players will focus their development and involvement in Inter-County Hurling within the Under 21   Development Squad.
They will be closely monitored by Senior Hurling Management (as will all the Under 21 Development Squad)

Conor McCann         Creggan
James Black         Carey Faughs
James McCouaig         Carey Faughs
Mathew Donnelly   Ballycastle
Paddy McNaughton   Cushendall

*The players below are released back to their Clubs to regain fitness, recover from injuries and play consistently. They will be closely monitored by Senior Hurling Management, as will other Players that played in trial games or that missed the trial process;

Thomas McCann Creggan
Ciaran Cunningham   St John's
Stephen Shannon   Rossa
Paddy Doherty           Dunloy
Neil O'Connell          Clooney Gaels
Kevin Molloy           Dunloy
Kevin McKeague     Dunloy
Conor McKinley           Dunloy
Chris McGuiness     Rossa
Sean Hawes           Lamh Dhearg
Michael Armstrong   Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 08, 2011, 02:11:49 PM
I think thats a good open way of picking a panel and more importantly leaving the door open for the rest to get themselves into contention

Thats good communication..well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
There's certainly one or two I wouldn't have near it, and there would be one or two that were excluded there that I would have included. Good basis to start considering the LG players won't be there until their campaign is over. 2 keepers need for training from January 1st and Seanan and Ronan will provide that. I would imagine that DD would be the first choice and could be a fight between the other three to get another spot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
I would like to see Ronan as the number 2 there. Seanan is not just as consistant at Ronan and no harm to young o'connell if you dont start for your club you should not be there for your county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 08, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
I would have thought the likelihood of DD returning would be slim.

I have to commend them on the way this was carried out and communicated leaves everyone very clear and where they stand and what they have to do in the next few months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
I am looking more at the Belfast side of things here.
St Galls men strong hurlers - no Gallagher obviously football.
Lamh Dearg maybe a claim on a few more if only comparing to others on the list.
The Rossa man I don't know but I see the others are listed in the "extras" are strong hurlers.
St John's offer the usual names from last year - squad players only at county level.
Those Sarsfields & St pauls boys might benefit from the experience but they are not good enough for division 1 club hurling.
I would prefer not to comment on the St Agnes (or is that stpauls!) representitive!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 03:06:22 PM
Certainly the St Agnes inclusion is a bit off the cuff!! what age would he be now anyway? Very surprised Conor McCann is not included.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 05:36:06 PM
I would have o connell sub to dd and then fight between the other 2 for 3 rd, so far so good jerry.  Some boys will get heave in Feb or March when Shams back in town.  Good to see dd back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 05:36:06 PM
I would have o connell sub to dd and then fight between the other 2 for 3 rd, so far so good jerry.  Some boys will get heave in Feb or March when Shams back in town.  Good to see dd back.

I have had numerous discussions about this with mates. How can you justify having a player on the county team not getting match time for his clubs first team.

Granted he is a good keeper but he will be DDs understudy for a few more years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 08, 2011, 07:17:20 PM
IF a player is good enough then I have no problem with him being 2nd choice in his own club. IF CoC is a better keeper than the other 2 then he should be in the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 07:23:18 PM
With the Shams he still seems to get a bit, plus now at this stage he has reasonable inter county experience.  Plus if he is better than those other two and is good trainer he will be that bit sharper.  With the game time maybe these guys will get closer to sham keepers but at present imo they ain't as good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 08, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
Did martin scullion opt out or was he left out? Loughgiel's player of the year this year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 08, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
I would have thought the likelihood of DD returning would be slim.
I have it on good authority, without actually talking to the man himself, that he is indeed returning to the Antrim fold. Great to see it as he's been in great form the past couple of years.

Quote from: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 06:16:13 PMGranted he is a good keeper but he will be DDs understudy for a few more years
Surely good enough reason to be selected.



Quote from: pdiddy on December 08, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
Did martin scullion opt out or was he left out? Loughgiel's player of the year this year!
He opted out.



It would appear that Jerry/Gerry Wallis/Wallace knows his onions when it comes to managing a county panel.  It looks like a panel that represents just about the best we have in the county. If everyone commits fully then it could be a good year. I would also reiterate what has already been stated about keeping everyone informed, very refreshing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 08:58:19 PM
Agree Sie, can fault him thus far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 08, 2011, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
I would have thought the likelihood of DD returning would be slim.
I have it on good authority, without actually talking to the man himself, that he is indeed returning to the Antrim fold. Great to see it as he's been in great form the past couple of years.

Quote from: oisinog on December 08, 2011, 06:16:13 PMGranted he is a good keeper but he will be DDs understudy for a few more years
Surely good enough reason to be selected.



Quote from: pdiddy on December 08, 2011, 07:39:38 PM
Did martin scullion opt out or was he left out? Loughgiel's player of the year this year!
He opted out.



It would appear that Jerry/Gerry Wallis/Wallace knows his onions when it comes to managing a county panel.  It looks like a panel that represents just about the best we have in the county. If everyone commits fully then it could be a good year. I would also reiterate what has already been stated about keeping everyone informed, very refreshing.

DD turned up to one of the trials so I think that clearly states his intention. Pity about Martin Scullion. I think he is a good keeper, but I would rate Ronan higher. I would imagine that he will have had a good look at Ronan and Seanan by the time time LG play. I think Jerry will finish with two, and in my opinion that would be DD and Ronan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
He will finish with 3 I reckon and that would be chance for the other 2, or else its sham 1 2 for me.  Have to dall keeper good poc out but imo isn't as strong under dropping ball, looks little awkward at times. Mctoal seems to dive alot, very agile and fast.  Colonel where is paddy mcgill ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 09:18:48 PM
He will finish with 3 I reckon and that would be chance for the other 2, or else its sham 1 2 for me.  Have to dall keeper good poc out but imo isn't as strong under dropping ball, looks little awkward at times. Mctoal seems to dive alot, very agile and fast.  Colonel where is paddy mcgill ??

Not something I would be very sure about CO'C. Paddys own club form would need to become consistent. Not sure if he has the appetite for county hurling either. When Paddys on form hes deadly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2011, 10:57:12 PM
anyone fancy naming the best team out of that lot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 08, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
There's certainly one or two I wouldn't have near it, and there would be one or two that were excluded there that I would have included. Good basis to start considering the LG players won't be there until their campaign is over. 2 keepers need for training from January 1st and Seanan and Ronan will provide that. I would imagine that DD would be the first choice and could be a fight between the other three to get another spot.

Who else would you have included Colonel?

Re further conversations about keepers it's DD and Kearney for me as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:17:02 PM
hard but ill give it a go

1. DD
2. Undecided...kieran mcgourty??
3. Hippy
4. Graffin
5. McAuley
6. J Campbell
7. Gettins maybe??
8. Shorty
9. Barney
10. Shane
11. Kark S
12. Eddie/ Joey
13. Winker
14. NMcM
15. Pj/Conor Mccann/Darren Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
forgot to mention that martin scullion would walk into that half back line and do a fantastic job

simon mccrory isnt far from that starting team either

what is neil mcgarrys situation??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 11:19:26 PM
Mightn't be too far away

Dd
M gettens
C donnelly
C mc courty
A graffin
J Campbell
N mcauley
P sheils
M herron
L Watson
N mcmanus
S mc crory
S mc naughtonk
K Stewart
e mc closkey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2011, 11:19:37 PM
Good to see Barney McAuley back in there.

6 McManus 7 Campbell

10 PJ 12 McCloskey

13 Shane 14. Watson 15. McCann

All the rest as per antrim geals...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 11:22:03 PM
Not bad Saff. i like that team, barring maybe one or two but really decent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:23:23 PM
think barney is a big exclusion in saffronogs team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
M scullion ??? Not so sure 89, had a great eye catching last 5, will discuss this after semi, I'm sure if some one plays breath taking he will be called in.  I.e. paddy mc naughton, real master stroke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
My opinion on corner backs would be Graffin has to be there. Against the really good forwards he's the only one who counts when it comes to man marking. McGourty great reader of the game though which stands him in good stead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 11:26:45 PM
Yeah baring one or two. Scullion was great in final moments and that needs to be consistent, be great to see him hurl like that in the semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 11:27:59 PM
Barney has been fantastic and shows a change of position can do wonders, he struggled in sham full back line for while.  89 he is certainly worth a try midfield but just think he is over the hill there.imo, have u recovered from scullion remark, tell u still reckon Campbell should be restored to chb for Shams. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
yeah..graffin is a class man marker. normally picks up the danger man. he could be playing anywhere in the back line. think JC deserves his chance in CHB. keep mcmanus up in the forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:31:12 PM
yes i think campbell chb and scullion wing half for shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 11:31:57 PM
Mc courty terrible striker at that level but best of rest I think.  He is competitor good experience, can read it and am sure he has.some knowledge of.the dark arts for.that position, thats why feel graffin better out field.  Same with Stewart if ball winning problematic, which has happened before with saffs ie move him out a bit.  What age is he
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 11:35:48 PM
Thought Campbell played well on the wing this year. CHB he's too lose, he can win a lot of break ball from the puck outs but for me (I'm not being critical here) he lashes it up field as quick as he can when a quick look would end up with a better delivered ball. But i still feel he is a great player, no knocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
very healthy competition for the chb spot..any one of about four could play there and play it well..a driving midfield is what antrim lack badly..two jerry o connor would be great. wonder have st agnes any?? :-P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 08, 2011, 11:45:57 PM
Jesus hope we aren't pinning hopes on them, barney, one of the mcfalls and o connell  would be first 3 tries, unsure of some others.  One pity of missing out Walsh cup as county had to fight to get into it.  However maybe in house and club semi finalists might provide better tests.  Weather plays big part to.   Thought rossa might have produced little more, impressed with them at times.this year.  Michael Armstrong in particular,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 11:49:46 PM
McGuinness for me when he slotted into defence. Great stick man and has physically built himself up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 08, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
armstrong committed to football??

you still swing for the saints saffronog?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
Good teams there all round just a few tweaks like mc manus ideal position - maybe now we have a manager who will see the same!

I just think Dinny was guilty of having notions on players and picking strange teams at times - when most observers would agree on say 75% of the personnel involved.

I have to say I am optimistic for the year on this basis - although I stand by my belief that bottom line is we are not good enough to get out of division 2. No shame in that - it is our level but we can still aim to rise!

Anyone shed some light on the motions before convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on December 09, 2011, 12:07:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 08, 2011, 11:55:21 PM
Good teams there all round just a few tweaks like mc manus ideal position - maybe now we have a manager who will see the same!

I just think Dinny was guilty of having notions on players and picking strange teams at times - when most observers would agree on say 75% of the personnel involved.

I have to say I am optimistic for the year on this basis - although I stand by my belief that bottom line is we are not good enough to get out of division 2. No shame in that - it is our level but we can still aim to rise!

Anyone shed some light on the motions before convention?

County board are being very transparent this year  ;) = http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3230
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2011, 06:27:33 AM
Maybe he'll try Winker in MF like Davy Fitz did last Sunday. He was marking Jackie Tyrrell and scored 0-6, 4 from play.  I'm only throwing it out there for a suggestion, don't eat the face of me   :)..... I don't think he'll play there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 07:54:51 AM
Did you watch the clip Sie?

There were more tackles and hits in a netball game FFS.

They all had time to stop, wave and then strike the ball.

I'm not eating your face off by the way ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 09, 2011, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2011, 11:35:48 PM
Thought Campbell played well on the wing this year. CHB he's too lose, he can win a lot of break ball from the puck outs but for me (I'm not being critical here) he lashes it up field as quick as he can when a quick look would end up with a better delivered ball. But i still feel he is a great player, no knocking

I would agree with that. I would always be of the opinion that you need your best ball distributers in the half back line. JC just needs to take a second to look and this could help create a lot more chances for his forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2011, 09:57:26 AM
:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
Dont know where the rush has come for MS he caught two balls in the county final and that was it, crucial and all as they were at the time.

Good blend to the squad but I would be concerned with some but will reserve judgement.

If you watch the top teams playing there is no time to stop and pick some one out any more (or very very rarely) that's why we need forwards capable of winning their own possession as a number one priority. However JC does have a habit of skying the ball even when he does have time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 09, 2011, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Glensman on December 08, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on December 08, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
There's certainly one or two I wouldn't have near it, and there would be one or two that were excluded there that I would have included. Good basis to start considering the LG players won't be there until their campaign is over. 2 keepers need for training from January 1st and Seanan and Ronan will provide that. I would imagine that DD would be the first choice and could be a fight between the other three to get another spot.

Who else would you have included Colonel?

Re further conversations about keepers it's DD and Kearney for me as well.

i think Kevin McKeague is better than Cathoir Cunning, Conor McCann better than a vast majority of the squad. I heard the fella Turley was hurling well for his Uni, when some of the boys included I seen at Queens v St Marys were quite poor. Armstrong and McGuinness maybe will come in again (depending on football commitments). One of our panel members who watched a couple of trials was very impressed with Mark Lynch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 09, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
I'd have thought JC would be one of the top distributors of good ball into forwards in Antrim. Maybe for Antrim he doesnt look(less time etc) but for Loughgiel in CHB I'd have always thought he was vital in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2011, 11:15:28 AM
JC also contributes with a couple of points a game. Invaluable sometimes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 09, 2011, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
Dont know where the rush has come for MS he caught two balls in the county final and that was it, crucial and all as they were at the time.

Good blend to the squad but I would be concerned with some but will reserve judgement.

If you watch the top teams playing there is no time to stop and pick some one out any more (or very very rarely) that's why we need forwards capable of winning their own possession as a number one priority. However JC does have a habit of skying the ball even when he does have time.

Scully has been our most consistant player over the last 2 years.  A much more physical player now than he was 3-4 years ago.  Really stepped it up a gear in the last 10 mins of the last 2 County Finals which had a big bearing on us winning both games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 09, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
was he loughgiels poty??

on another note..how can carson contine in the county set up? well below par imo..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2011, 01:13:17 PM
I think if lets say watson,shane,KS and maybe eddie was in forward line we could try neill mc manus in middle.  Great strike of ball and great ball winner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on December 09, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on December 09, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
was he loughgiels poty??
on another note..how can carson contine in the county set up? well below par imo..

Yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Black and Amber17 on December 09, 2011, 05:45:01 PM
1.DD
2.Graffin
3.Hippy
4.K.McGourty
5.N.McAuley
6.N.McManus
7.J.Campbell
8.K.Stewart
9.Shorty
10.E.McCloskey
11.M.Herron
12.J.scullion
12.P.J O'Connell
14.L.watson
15.S.McNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 07:49:04 PM
Joey scullion finding bit of form but well of pace Luke Carson at present.  Quit fair while ago 89, yourself ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 08:10:59 PM
Too much vino saffron og?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 08:10:59 PM
Too much vino saffron og?

He's random sometimes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
Responding to 89 remarks, goin to have to look to see exactly how its done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Click on the quote of the post that you want to refer to and then post!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Click on the quote of the post that you want to refer to and then post!!

Nice, still getting to grips with technology, did u ever get a run in the ulster league final, remember u talking about it ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Click on the quote of the post that you want to refer to and then post!!

Nice, still getting to grips with technology, did u ever get a run in the ulster league final, remember u talking about it ??

To be attempted again on Sunday in Swartagh!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Click on the quote of the post that you want to refer to and then post!!

Nice, still getting to grips with technology, did u ever get a run in the ulster league final, remember u talking about it ??

To be attempted again on Sunday in Swartagh!!
Where is Swartagh?

Have I spelt it wrongly?  South Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 09:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
Click on the quote of the post that you want to refer to and then post!!

Nice, still getting to grips with technology, did u ever get a run in the ulster league final, remember u talking about it ??

To be attempted again on Sunday in Swartagh!!
Where is Swartagh?

Have I spelt it wrongly?  South Derry
Hmm, Swatragh perhaps.

I'll go with Michael Davitt'S instead, as a certain poster will launch into me for getting this wrong for sure :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 09:28:46 PM

Not be better playing at start of season, almost cruelty sending even galls men out in that sort of weather   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Must have had plenty of coffee saffron, I even understood that! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Must have had plenty of coffee saffron, I even understood that! ;D
You must have missed his first attempt at quoting posts, before the edit.
Thought I got away with that, that's some management team armagh have put together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
What would be considered a successful season, you aren't in  christy ring are u ? Is p mc cormack still playing, or we cushendall guy.  You probably have one if best coaches in Ireland, and johnty US nobodies full.  Crossey have mad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2011, 01:47:48 AM
 :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2011, 02:52:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Must have had plenty of coffee saffron, I even understood that! ;D
You must have missed his first attempt at quoting posts, before the edit.
Thought I got away with that, that's some management team armagh have put together
Dinny, Crossey and Janty.

The future is bright.

Are Euros Orange?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 10, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Where has it been confirmed it's this dream team?

If true and Armagh play Antrim Dinny will fairly have them up for that match!

Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Must have had plenty of coffee saffron, I even understood that! ;D
You must have missed his first attempt at quoting posts, before the edit.
Thought I got away with that, that's some management team armagh have put together
Dinny, Crossey and Janty.

The future is bright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on December 10, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
1.DD
2.Graffin
3.Hippy
4.K.McGourty
5.N.McAuley
6.N.McManus
7.J.Campbell
8.B.McAuley
9.Shorty
10.E.McCloskey
11.K.Stewart
12.M.Herron
13.C.McCann
14.L.watson
15.S.McNaughton
16.R.Kearney
17.M.Gettens
18.D.Hamill
19.PJ.O'Connell
20.D.Lynch
21.C.Laverty (cloughmills)
22.S.McCrory
23.D.McLean
24.B.McFall

My team is almost the same as b&a 17. Would have been nice to have A.Gallagher and B.Herron available for midfield could mean you could play shorty in corner forward.

That would be my panel roughly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on December 10, 2011, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 10, 2011, 11:10:52 AM
Where has it been confirmed it's this dream team?

If true and Armagh play Antrim Dinny will fairly have them up for that match!

Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 09, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 09, 2011, 10:31:04 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 09, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
Must have had plenty of coffee saffron, I even understood that! ;D
You must have missed his first attempt at quoting posts, before the edit.
Thought I got away with that, that's some management team armagh have put together
Dinny, Crossey and Janty.

The future is bright.

Jonty, Crossey, Dinny and McGurn. Some management team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 06:23:53 PM
Any venue sorted yet for the semi final? Loughgiel lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Owenbeg on December 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Did u get on today Milltown?? was at the game, thought it was a good game of hurling. Hows the young lad who got hurt?? what did u think of KL park??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 11, 2011, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Owenbeg on December 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Did u get on today Milltown?? was at the game, thought it was a good game of hurling. Hows the young lad who got hurt?? what did u think of KL park??

Who won?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: Owenbeg on December 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Did u get on today Milltown?? was at the game, thought it was a good game of hurling. Hows the young lad who got hurt?? what did u think of KL park??

I did, young lad ended up with the bar from the other fellas helmet through his hand, he went off to hospital, I haven't more from him.

Decent game for the time of year we scored 2-19 i think and considering the team we had out and a few lads that had been on their works do is some going. Burt really stuck with us till the last 5 minutes and managed to get the goals to stick with us. Our full backline were out on their Xmas do's  :D.

Sort of swan song for me with the seniors so i came on the last 5 minutes and had a couple of chances for a score and the last one i hit it fell short into our full forward who put it in the back of the net. Of course it was a pass  ;)

Impressed with Burt and number 13 was a standout hurler who'd get on most teams in Ulster.

I have to add (and I would have said this had you not asked) that i was impressed with the pitch for the time of year and the facilities were great. A bitta effort added with the flags all up and the anthems being played before the game.

Minutes silence before the game as a mark of respect for a young girl who'd died tragically last night.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 11, 2011, 07:27:29 PM
id say without being there that 13 was pobably Niall Campbell (Jude), plays intercounty for Donegal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
Small build young lad, bit like myself ;D


Campbell's big into their hurling up there i believe. Took all the frees and was deadly, think he managed 1-7 or more maybe. His goal was very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 11, 2011, 08:12:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 07:30:13 PM
Small build young lad, bit like myself ;D


Campbell's big into their hurling up there i believe. Took all the frees and was deadly, think he managed 1-7 or more maybe. His goal was very good

Small lad, thats deffo him. He shouldnt be mixed up with the other Campbell clan big into hurling in Donegal, they are from Setanta, their father is  an Antrim man- Loughgeil I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 06:23:53 PM
Any venue sorted yet for the semi final? Loughgiel lads
I haven't heard anything yet MR".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 06:23:53 PM
Any venue sorted yet for the semi final? Loughgiel lads
I haven't heard anything yet MR".

Just trying to get a heads up, Mullingar is possibly a venue, looking a stay over for a few bevvies ;),  Nowlan Park would be great but can't see it being so far down. Parnell has been the downfall of most Northern teams of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: trasna man on December 11, 2011, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: Owenbeg on December 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Did u get on today Milltown?? was at the game, thought it was a good game of hurling. Hows the young lad who got hurt?? what did u think of KL park??

I did, young lad ended up with the bar from the other fellas helmet through his hand, he went off to hospital, I haven't more from him.

Decent game for the time of year we scored 2-19 i think and considering the team we had out and a few lads that had been on their works do is some going. Burt really stuck with us till the last 5 minutes and managed to get the goals to stick with us. Our full backline were out on their Xmas do's  :D.

Sort of swan song for me with the seniors so i came on the last 5 minutes and had a couple of chances for a score and the last one i hit it fell short into our full forward who put it in the back of the net. Of course it was a pass  ;)

Impressed with Burt and number 13 was a standout hurler who'd get on most teams in Ulster.

I have to add (and I would have said this had you not asked) that i was impressed with the pitch for the time of year and the facilities were great. A bitta effort added with the flags all up and the anthems being played before the game.

Minutes silence before the game as a mark of respect for a young girl who'd died tragically last night.
MR2 check out desmondloughery.com cracking photos of todays game even the injury to number 7 well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2011, 10:49:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 06:23:53 PM
Any venue sorted yet for the semi final? Loughgiel lads
I haven't heard anything yet MR".

Just trying to get a heads up, Mullingar is possibly a venue, looking a stay over for a few bevvies ;),  Nowlan Park would be great but can't see it being so far down. Parnell has been the downfall of most Northern teams of late
I would say parnell is in with a good shout, unfortunately. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: trasna man on December 11, 2011, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 07:04:14 PM
Quote from: Owenbeg on December 11, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Did u get on today Milltown?? was at the game, thought it was a good game of hurling. Hows the young lad who got hurt?? what did u think of KL park??

I did, young lad ended up with the bar from the other fellas helmet through his hand, he went off to hospital, I haven't more from him.

Decent game for the time of year we scored 2-19 i think and considering the team we had out and a few lads that had been on their works do is some going. Burt really stuck with us till the last 5 minutes and managed to get the goals to stick with us. Our full backline were out on their Xmas do's  :D.

Sort of swan song for me with the seniors so i came on the last 5 minutes and had a couple of chances for a score and the last one i hit it fell short into our full forward who put it in the back of the net. Of course it was a pass  ;)

Impressed with Burt and number 13 was a standout hurler who'd get on most teams in Ulster.

I have to add (and I would have said this had you not asked) that i was impressed with the pitch for the time of year and the facilities were great. A bitta effort added with the flags all up and the anthems being played before the game.

Minutes silence before the game as a mark of respect for a young girl who'd died tragically last night.
MR2 check out desmondloughery.com cracking photos of todays game even the injury to number 7 well done

Very good, some cracking photo's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 11, 2011, 11:09:47 PM
milltown who are your number 2 and 10. play for your junior team. two mouths..you mustve been short if they were on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 11, 2011, 11:11:40 PM
Have dunloy anything coming through worthy of note? Major rebuild needed their. Was over there today for kids "bog ball" , what a fantastic facility. No excuses on that front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2011, 11:15:21 PM
We'd noreal team out, we played mainly our reserves all year, but Karl wants to play every match so we can't stop him. And I'll agree with you on the other point but number 10 is alright, number 12?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on December 11, 2011, 11:37:18 PM
possibly..ginger hair?. does well to stay on the pitch every game. they give the rest a bad name imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 13, 2011, 11:14:03 AM
Any news from convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 14, 2011, 11:19:21 AM
Chairman seemed to devote most of his address at discipline, or rather lack of it, and respect for officials. I wonder who he was talking about? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 14, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
I thought everyone had left this board for a few days!

Were any of the motions passed?
Any decisions to change structures / games next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
To be fair to them RG they were beating on about it long before the Rasharkin thing. I think something pretty bad happened earlier in the year too.

It's applicable anywhere. That connacht club football final was a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on December 14, 2011, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
To be fair to them RG they were beating on about it long before the Rasharkin thing. I think something pretty bad happened earlier in the year too.

It's applicable anywhere. That connacht club football final was a joke.

Yeah, there was a few incidents this year wasn't there. The Cargin/Lamh Dhearg match, didn't a referee get his jaw broke in belfast at a football match? I'm sure I heard about other stuff too.

Then there was a lot of crap in other counties as well, the tyrone league final, the ladies football match where the referee got knocked out in tyrone as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 14, 2011, 03:23:19 PM
Shouldnt even be a matter for debate that the Chairman sees discipline as a major aspect for his speech. It is time seriously that something needs to be done about it, we are going to end up in very serious situation very soon when someone isnt going to walk away from one of these rucks. Then there will be some ringing of hands. Time to get it sorted once and for all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 14, 2011, 03:23:19 PM
Shouldnt even be a matter for debate that the Chairman sees discipline as a major aspect for his speech. It is time seriously that something needs to be done about it, we are going to end up in very serious situation very soon when someone isnt going to walk away from one of these rucks. Then there will be some ringing of hands. Time to get it sorted once and for all.

You refereeing this year NAG1 ??

Aye i think its about time clubs, and they do know who these arseholes are, take the initiative and throw them out of the club and be done with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 04:20:52 PM
The lack of respect for refs seems to be getting greater and not just in antrim so needs confronted. I don't know what is wrong with people that they get some bad decisions against them so they want to attack a ref.

They are probably a select few people mind but a select few too many.

Ai, something happened I think in Belfast which didn't sound too good as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 04:20:52 PM
The lack of respect for refs seems to be getting greater and not just in antrim so needs confronted. I don't know what is wrong with people that they get some bad decisions against them so they want to attack a ref.

They are probably a select few people mind but a select few too many.

Ai, something happened I think in Belfast which didn't sound too good as well.

Sarsfields match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on December 14, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 14, 2011, 03:23:19 PM
Shouldnt even be a matter for debate that the Chairman sees discipline as a major aspect for his speech. It is time seriously that something needs to be done about it, we are going to end up in very serious situation very soon when someone isnt going to walk away from one of these rucks. Then there will be some ringing of hands. Time to get it sorted once and for all.

You refereeing this year NAG1 ??

Aye i think its about time clubs, and they do know who these arseholes are, take the initiative and throw them out of the club and be done with it.

Still won't stop them going to matches and being arseholes.  Not really anything clubs can do to stop them other than having people at the gates and I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 14, 2011, 05:05:54 PM
Everyone here knows what is right and what is wrong. The problem we all face in clubs is finding a solution to a problem which is not just sport related but is a wider indictment of the society we now live in. No one accepts responsibility for their mistakes. When you speak to a parent about their childs behaviour on or off the field they don't want to deal with it and many will even bury their heads in the sand and tell you that there is no way their child did want you are saying.
My own club has had all the headlines for our poor behaviour and rightly so, but from speaking to Gaa people throughout this county and further afield there seem to these kind of terrible incidents happening throughout the country on a regular basis which are perhaps not as severe as the events at Ballymena but are not far behind.
We, as a club, failed to address a problem that has been building for years and resulted in the disgraceful scenes at slemish park, and shame on us for turning a blind eye for so long. But this is a huge problem and i don't see anyone with a magic wand who can make it disappear. I dont know what the long term solution is, we in clubs can only do or best to shape individuals into good, sporting well rounded gaels, but if we are not getting support from the majority of members in our clubs to take the hard decisions, or from the parents of kids we have to discipline we are fighting a losing battle.
That sounds very pessimistic, i do try to be positive about all our GAA matters, but it will take something much more than sound bites from our county officials to stop this trend, but hopefully JM and Fs have a plan in mind.       
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on December 14, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 14, 2011, 05:05:54 PM
i don't see anyone with a magic wand who can make it disappear.

I've a magic sponge if that helps?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 04:24:44 PM
Sarsfields match

Yeah, Sarsfields v St Pauls wasn't it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 14, 2011, 05:35:17 PM
That's the Christmas spirit ms, very kind go you :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: gelvis on December 14, 2011, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 14, 2011, 03:23:19 PM
Shouldnt even be a matter for debate that the Chairman sees discipline as a major aspect for his speech. It is time seriously that something needs to be done about it, we are going to end up in very serious situation very soon when someone isnt going to walk away from one of these rucks. Then there will be some ringing of hands. Time to get it sorted once and for all.

You refereeing this year NAG1 ??

Aye i think its about time clubs, and they do know who these arseholes are, take the initiative and throw them out of the club and be done with it.

Still won't stop them going to matches and being arseholes.  Not really anything clubs can do to stop them other than having people at the gates and I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.

Well it should stop them, it's not a nice job but after a while they will get the message and not come back.

If the club decide that they don't want a certain person in their club then they can stop them. So I don't know where that statement came from
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 14, 2011, 10:55:18 PM
Fair comment rasharkin Gael - good points well made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on December 19, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
Jerry Wallace announces his backroom team http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3238
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
Sharkin back in football and hurling leagues and chmpionships following appeal to Ulster Council but have to play games away from home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 19, 2011, 05:46:26 PM
Interesting rasharkin!

I wonder will St johns face any sanctions following their bust up yesterday or will this be left to the club to sort out internally?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 07:23:05 PM
What happened with the johnnies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 19, 2011, 07:46:59 PM
They got put out of ulster minor football then proceeded into full scale fight amongst themselves (players and officials).

Desperate scenes I was at the game and saw the commotion myself although to far away to see who exactly was involved. Although it's public knowledge now really.

Just say - mentors and their family. Don't like to name names on these things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 19, 2011, 08:43:24 PM
That's a pity, ending what has been a great season for those lads like that. Do you know what the problem was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 20, 2011, 12:07:45 AM
Anything I have heard has been speculation or gossip so not sure of the full story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 03:24:46 PM
Loughgiel All Ireland semi confirmed for Parnell pk, 11/2/12.

Challenge games vs ucd, kkenny, dublin, carlow, queens, antrim and middletown over next 6 weeks. Training new years eve and day.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 20, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
Heck of a schedule and against quality opposition , hope it stands them well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 06:15:07 PM
That's the plan RG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 20, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
Never thought I would here Middletown & Kilkenny mentioned in same breath!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
I hear RM has resigned as a ref on the back of the Rasharkin appeal outcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 20, 2011, 07:11:04 PM
Not surprised

Time for Mickey to come out of retirement to make up the numbers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 20, 2011, 08:40:33 PM
The referee attacked at an Under-21 game in October has resigned after the punishments handed out to the Rasharkin club were reduced by Ulster GAA chiefs.

Ray Matthews said he was extremely annoyed, disappointed and disgusted at the outcome of the club's appeal.

He added that he had feared for his life when he was assaulted after the Antrim U-21 semi-final in Ballymena.

Rasharkin will now be allowed to play in adult league and championship competitions in Antrim in 2012.

The county board had originally banned the club from all competitions above minor grade for the year.

Rasharkin's home ground will remain closed for senior matches next year and club's adult teams will have to play all their games at away venues.

The Ulster Council's appeal judgement said that any further transgressions over the next two years could see the original bans re-imposed.

The Antrim county board also has the option of appealing against the provincial body's ruling.

Rasharkin's appeal to the Ulster Council only concerned the sanctions handed to the club - not the hefty individual bans imposed on some club personnel.

The Antrim board expelled one player, two club members and a member of the Rasharkin coaching staff.

Matthews was taken to hospital after being assaulted at the end of the Antrim Under-21 championship semi-final game against Belfast club Lamh Dhearg.

Rasharkin remain banned from the Under-21 Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 09:06:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 03:24:46 PM
Loughgiel All Ireland semi confirmed for Parnell pk, 11/2/12.

Challenge games vs ucd, kkenny, dublin, carlow, queens, antrim and middletown over next 6 weeks. Training new years eve and day.

A Saturday match. Good stuff. Weekend in Dublin. Few drinks place a bet  ;) watch game, collect winnings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on December 20, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/gaelic-games/hurling/all-ireland-club-hurling-championship/winner

12/1 stan james
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 20, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/gaelic-games/hurling/all-ireland-club-hurling-championship/winner

12/1 stan james

Can you get each way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2011, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
I hear RM has resigned as a ref on the back of the Rasharkin appeal outcome.

it has made 4th headline on the BBC website - what a shower they are


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/16274168.stm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
12/1 for a Loughgiel win is very good odds. Think I might stick 50 quid on that one. You`s better not let me down  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 20, 2011, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
I hear RM has resigned as a ref on the back of the Rasharkin appeal outcome.

it has made 4th headline on the BBC website - what a shower they are


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/16274168.stm

What do u expect? Ulster council gave them the stick to beat us with!
Cannot blame RM on this - one thing refs have no support at matchday but now the blazers don't support them either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 21, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
Yeah have to agree that the Ulster Council decision undermines the whole thing and now essentially says that ya can lash away.

I never had much time for that referee but this is completely inexusable for this great assoshheeaattion of ours.

He was always chitterin and talking too much during games, and generally gettin on like a melter but throwin a boulder at anyone is pushing it by anyones standards.

I can genuinely see now a lack of new referees coming through - a bit like a shortage of priests in our parishes.

Why would anyone now want to be a referee? How can we play our games without referees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 21, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: samboswig on December 21, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
He was always chitterin and talking too much during games, and generally gettin on like a melter but throwin a boulder at anyone is pushing it by anyones standards.

Thre weren't any boulders thrown. That was ridiculous rumours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 20, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/gaelic-games/hurling/all-ireland-club-hurling-championship/winner

12/1 stan james

Can you get each way?

I doubt you would get each way for a semi-final match, it would effectively be the price of winning their semi-final (not just in normal time)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2011, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 20, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/gaelic-games/hurling/all-ireland-club-hurling-championship/winner

12/1 stan james

Can you get each way?

I doubt you would get each way for a semi-final match, it would effectively be the price of winning their semi-final (not just in normal time)

Each way for the final lad!!! 12/1 with Stan's currently is a good each way bet for the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2011, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 21, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
Quote from: glens73 on December 20, 2011, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on December 20, 2011, 09:11:10 PM
What are the odds on Loughgiel winning the All Ireland?
8/1 Paddy Power

10/1 Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/gaelic-games/hurling/all-ireland-club-hurling-championship/winner

12/1 stan james

Can you get each way?

I doubt you would get each way for a semi-final match, it would effectively be the price of winning their semi-final (not just in normal time)

Each way for the final lad!!! 12/1 with Stan's currently is a good each way bet for the final

That's what I meant, each way for the touranment, as such. The best bet for Loughgiel to qualify for the final, at present, is 9/4 with Paddy Power. I doubt there is an each way market available with only 4 teams left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2011, 11:26:15 PM
Few rumours bubbling around Belfast that the johnston's are leaving St johns for Rossa??reason for the fisticuffs between themselves at St Pauls?? Heard this a few times over last couple years but didn't give it much credence until now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on December 21, 2011, 11:33:07 PM
they tried to join a few years but were knocked back apparently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2011, 11:45:01 PM
Must be something in it then jerimiah? I no you have a history if not taking Belfast transfers but I was told the father has already informed St johns that the two boys are for Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on December 23, 2011, 12:33:56 AM
Jesus, that would be a massive blow if those two lads went over to Rossa. Sensational talents. Hate seeing players transferring clubs, so hopefully they have legitimate reasons to do so. If they do transfer, it would be a massive blow to St Johns. Even more bad blood between the two clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 23, 2011, 07:08:34 AM
St.Johns will have to veto, for if passed for Ciaran and Conor, there will be a good few more come after them. Relations must have gone seriously sour for Mickey to press the nuclear button. The club not prepared to meet his high standards perhaps??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2011, 10:04:47 AM
Then why won't they go to the big hurling club in Belfast?  :D

Rossa are poor enough at minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 23, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
I heard they were going to Rossa too, what is their beef with St Johns?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 23, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 23, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
I heard they were going to Rossa too, what is their beef with St Johns?

It's not their beef! It's their dads. I can't believe the boys would want to go. I think St Johns have tried to resolve issues as much as possible. That said, I don't think the county will let the transfer go through. What do they put on their form? My daddy has thrown the toys out of the pram so we have to move?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on December 23, 2011, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
I wouldn't be sure Rossa would take them.

If you could take the boys without the father would that change things?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 23, 2011, 12:47:37 PM
Very good mr2! And probably not even Tongue in cheek! Rossa look do be very much on the way back to the top level with a great age profile (that's why Johnston wants them there) but I agree with hardstation - these transfers between the "old firm" don't seem right and the rivalry is hostile enough as it is.  I am led to believe the Johnston Lads are friends with their peers at Rossa  but that's nothing for me.

Had occasion to speak to a few red hands yesterday - they believe they will be stronger again this year. Good squad there division2 looks like being most interesting again - anyone know what sarsfields like?

Glenariffe galls or Rossa to go up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 23, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 23, 2011, 12:47:37 PM
Very good mr2! And probably not even Tongue in cheek! Rossa look do be very much on the way back to the top level with a great age profile (that's why Johnston wants them there) but I agree with hardstation - these transfers between the "old firm" don't seem right and the rivalry is hostile enough as it is.  I am led to believe the Johnston Lads are friends with their peers at Rossa  but that's nothing for me.

Had occasion to speak to a few red hands yesterday - they believe they will be stronger again this year. Good squad there division2 looks like being most interesting again - anyone know what sarsfields like?

Glenariffe galls or Rossa to go up?

Glenariffe I would think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 23, 2011, 01:19:47 PM
I agree - dual commitments of galls & Rossa with mean oisins more consistent. Also they will be stronger at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 24, 2011, 02:54:33 PM
Merry Christmas lads, have a good one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 24, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
If Rossa continue to develop and add a few players then glenariffe could get it tight, hear they.could be down a few players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 24, 2011, 04:13:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on December 24, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
If Rossa continue to develop and add a few players then glenariffe could get it tight, hear they.could be down a few players

Like who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 24, 2011, 05:47:16 PM
Here c mcallister working in England and tosh retired
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 24, 2011, 07:21:38 PM
Still the oisins for me - Rossa will show good in championship but too busy socialising to put full season together which Glenariffe will do. Galls also good enough to challenge oisins but the big ball will as usual smother them over the course of the season mr2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on December 24, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
A happy Christmas lads

Only about 6 weeks for Shams to get it right and then new season underway.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 26, 2011, 09:14:38 AM
Is it wrong to have a beer at 9.15 on St Stephen's day morning?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 26, 2011, 02:38:10 PM
It is if u were hoping to tog out in Parnell! Otherwise enjoy it - us mc cooeys call that the breakfast of champions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 27, 2011, 09:36:05 AM
Was hearing from a few refs there over Christmas there that they might not ref any games for a set period of time in protest at the whole Rasharkin thing.

Anyone hear anything like this? Has ManinGreenandblack heard anthing? It would be reasonable for some kind of gesture no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 27, 2011, 04:21:33 PM
At the moment Refs are waiting to see what the county board are doing and the complete lack of action from antrims own referee committee is only making the situation only worse IMO, very very poor performance by them completely. One thing seems to be hard and fast though that Rasharkin will have no referees at all from South Antrim or N Antrim in any code this coming season, if there is a weakness in this it will be the referees from SW Antrim who seem to lack a backbone from all the rumors coming back.

We are always told that you have the full support of bla bla bla and we couldn't have games without referee's this time is does seem to be for real. G Duffy I am lead to believe has been asking for a meeting of all referee's to discuss all issues including health and safety etc etc but to date he hasn't had any definitive response from county or referee's committee, none of them seem to want to allow referee's to actually have a voice, and if this is not a perfect case to justify a referee's equivalent to the GPA I don't know what is. So in reality it shows that no-one seems to really give a fck about the man in the middle so quid pro quo as the say, if clubs are now left with a very small amount if any referee's come the new season or the Ulster league etc etc then why worry let the clubs do something about it then.

It is the pure lack of action and communication from county exc and referee's committee that does seem to be contributing to a worsening situation, why go out to referee a game get you plums kicked in then be totally sent to Coventry by your own county and have wee Joe and the likes doing back room deals to suit themselves and their own careers in the GAA like RM for doing a voluntary job by the people you are doing it for, why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 28, 2011, 10:56:38 AM
Ok thanks for the info - will be interesting to see what happens. Wouldnt be comfortable though with people naming names and accusing them of inscrupulous deals in dark backrooms.

Are they not volunteers too? Maybe its all the bitchin and hatin and poisin that holds us all back. Only an oul thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 28, 2011, 04:00:12 PM
I hear what you say sbw but its out there in the public domain so its not such a big secret especially if your a referee in Antrim and Ulster, and yes they are also volunteers (officials) who effect change, influence and are supposed to represent the best interests of us all, on this occasion that did not happen and all you have to do is look at RM who did the right thing and has now been crucified for it. Who represents Ray now? Agreed we have a lot of bitch n,hating and poison like all counties but don't loose sight of the fact that a man that has given his life to the GAA has now been treated like a leper so that others may serve their own cause, and to then ignore the concerns of referee's in the county you can only expect some anger and frustration, and there is plenty of that around at the moment. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 28, 2011, 05:05:52 PM
Well I wouldnt say he has been treated like a leper. The individual bans still stand and presumably the RIC will deal with any legal charges that may arise - and if it all happened as you say then those charges will be made for sure and convictions are then a possibility. More excellent media coverage of Antrim GAA.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 28, 2011, 06:38:18 PM
Your missing the point SBW, its our own county that has sent him to Coventry to protect themselves from the RIC and the spin off in this legal process, the charges etc etc will look after themselves as they do in a court room I'm sure, that's not the issue and never was. And yes as a referee that knows him well he has and still is being treated as the proverbial leper. As far as Antrim and media is concerned they are bringing on themselves nothing new there! Don't want to get into a tit for tat with you but the point is WHAT WILL YOUR COUNTY DO FOR YOU WHEN THE SH** HITS THE FAN and this has proved absolutely nothing to frank about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on December 28, 2011, 07:12:17 PM
RIC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 28, 2011, 07:25:11 PM
Every time there was an "incident", the mantra was put it in your report, that's the end of your involvement & it will be dealt with.

There was never any feedback, nor were the miscreants ever properly dealt with.

Over the years, an acceptable level of misconduct has come to be the norm & this is partially why the current situation has arisen.

The Referees Committee should insist that there is no more lip service, of the "referees are great" sort of crap, that has been dished out for years.

If necessary, referees should be entitled to make verbal submissions to both CCC & CHC & they should be entitled to know that their abusers are not getting off with it time & time again, i.e. transparent punishments.

There is also far too much of this human rights nonsense that has crept into the GAA recently, whereby you appeal & appeal & appeal again to higher authorities, until you get a decision that you don't like overturned.

If the authorities do not stand up for referees, then they will soon find it hard to run the show, when there aren't any left to put their heads above the parapet. By then, it'll be too late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2011, 12:18:01 AM
If we were honest with ourselves from the start RM included, there was always going to be an appeal, certain things were going to change in the punishments that were initially dealt to Rasharkin.

Referees will feel aggrieved but what is the best course of action? Not refereeing Rasharkin games? No winners here at all. Ray has been the biggest loser in this.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on December 29, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
Yes there was always going to be an appeal.  It is wrong to punish the entire club in my opinion.  Playing all of their matches away and being banned from under 21 championship as well as the individual bans are sufficient and still send a very strong message out which is the purpose of the thing. 

Clubs have a right to appeal.  Referee's who are also members know this.  You have to accept the rules of our democratic association.  Rasharkin are protecting their club using the rules that govern clubs from Burt to Ballygunner.  If referee's are talking about a strike or any other action against the democratic decisions taken, then they too are bringing the GAA into disrepute if you ask me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 29, 2011, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: 4father on December 29, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
Yes there was always going to be an appeal.  It is wrong to punish the entire club in my opinion.  Playing all of their matches away and being banned from under 21 championship as well as the individual bans are sufficient and still send a very strong message out which is the purpose of the thing. 

Clubs have a right to appeal.  Referee's who are also members know this.  You have to accept the rules of our democratic association.  Rasharkin are protecting their club using the rules that govern clubs from Burt to Ballygunner.  If referee's are talking about a strike or any other action against the democratic decisions taken, then they too are bringing the GAA into disrepute if you ask me.

Playing matches away from home is not a big enought punishment. This happend at a nutural venue no connection to the club. What would stop the players doing it again.

I think Ulster have been mad overturning this decision what will prevent other clubs from attacking refs. This does not do enough to discourage people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on December 29, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
I think the outcry and the shock about it all so far will go a long way to discourage attacks on referee's. 

But it doesnt matter what either of us think about it, we are paid members of the GAA and we accept the democracy that exists in it.  If they have made an appeal and it has been accepted by the higher authority then we must accept it and go on doing what we all do to make our GAA clubs good. 

However, if a counter appeal goes in and the original ban or part of the original ban is upheld then Rasharkin must accept that too.  At the end of the day, they are talking about saving their club effectively.  If it were mine, i'd fight tooth and nail to save it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on December 29, 2011, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: 4father on December 29, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
I think the outcry and the shock about it all so far will go a long way to discourage attacks on referee's. 

But it doesnt matter what either of us think about it, we are paid members of the GAA and we accept the democracy that exists in it.  If they have made an appeal and it has been accepted by the higher authority then we must accept it and go on doing what we all do to make our GAA clubs good. 

However, if a counter appeal goes in and the original ban or part of the original ban is upheld then Rasharkin must accept that too.  At the end of the day, they are talking about saving their club effectively.  If it were mine, i'd fight tooth and nail to save it.

You make a good point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 29, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: 4father on December 29, 2011, 07:11:20 PM
I think the outcry and the shock about it all so far will go a long way to discourage attacks on referee's. 

Do you know what the problem is? It won't.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 29, 2011, 08:16:29 PM
You are all talking about rasharkin, players, club, individuals etc etc, its the treatment of Ray I am talking about and other Referee that have the mis-fortune to experience the same thing. The process he has now engaged has effectively ended his refereeing career, as he was given no other option or choice but to take this process by the behaviour and direction both by Antrim who actually sent him to Coventry to protect themselves, and UC then followed. Forget about the club etc etc his own county for self preservation effectively stiffed him! Thats what I'm talking about and any other Referee in the future will be treated the same way, this is what has to stop! So as previously said WHAT WILL YOUR COUNTY DO FOR YOU? FCK ALL!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2011, 01:13:30 AM
Your right mibag. Ray has been the victim here and people seemed to forget that. While all of Rasharkin may not have been involved and the individuals have been punished will that be enough for the collective (being the clubs) to reel in those dickheads they have within/outside  ;) (they always know who these wankers are by the way) their club and get back to what we are all about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 31, 2011, 11:29:24 AM
If referee's are talking about a strike or any other action against the democratic decisions taken, then they too are bringing the GAA into disrepute if you ask me.  

How come? Would you willingly go out to do a job, on a voluntary basis, if you knew you were going to get the crap beat out of you?
Referees do a good job & purely because they want to. By definition, they can walk away, any time they want, particularly if they are not being protected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on December 31, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Why can't the GAA adopt a no nonsense policy like the rugby codes.Referees are not subjected to abuse from players in any shape or form.Decisions are generally accepted in a sporting manner. The governing bodies in both codes of rugby do not dilly dally with regard to punishment,and both players and spectators know that.The GAA need to get their house in order with regard to discipline and treatment of referees..............too many local vendettas,and petty inter club issues. If clubs, players or spectators misbehave they should pay the price and know that they're paying it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 01, 2012, 01:17:15 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on December 31, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Why can't the GAA adopt a no nonsense policy like the rugby codes.Referees are not subjected to abuse from players in any shape or form.Decisions are generally accepted in a sporting manner. The governing bodies in both codes of rugby do not dilly dally with regard to punishment,and both players and spectators know that.The GAA need to get their house in order with regard to discipline and treatment of referees..............too many local vendettas,and petty inter club issues. If clubs, players or spectators misbehave they should pay the price and know that they're paying it.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 01, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 31, 2011, 11:29:24 AM
If referee's are talking about a strike or any other action against the democratic decisions taken, then they too are bringing the GAA into disrepute if you ask me.  

How come? Would you willingly go out to do a job, on a voluntary basis, if you knew you were going to get the crap beat out of you?
Referees do a good job & purely because they want to. By definition, they can walk away, any time they want, particularly if they are not being protected.

The rumours aren't suggesting that they are going to walk away though.  I respect any mans right to walk away and especially RM who I know and respect very much.  But if they are talking about striking, then they are not accepting the democratic decisions of the GAA and are disrupting the games schedule which, in my humble opinion brings the GAA into disrepute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 01, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
I don't understand this "democratic decisions" point.

If the county set up a set of fixtures for the weekend, then the Referees' Committee will allocate those matches to particular referees.

A referee has the ultimate right to expect that if he goes out to do a match, then he will come home in the same shape as he went out.

That is what it's all about - it's a basic health & safety issue, For far too long, people who abused referees [either verbally or physically] got away with it. Now, it's got to a level that's completely unacceptable. What I'd like to know is why would anyone basically want to go out to officiate, if there's any chance that they'll get the crap kicked out of them?

The disincentives now far outweigh the incentives for going out & refereeing, in my view, & it will be v difficult to get new recruits, let alone hang on to the dwindling numbers who want to do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 01, 2012, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on January 01, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
I don't understand this "democratic decisions" point.

If the county set up a set of fixtures for the weekend, then the Referees' Committee will allocate those matches to particular referees.

A referee has the ultimate right to expect that if he goes out to do a match, then he will come home in the same shape as he went out.

That is what it's all about - it's a basic health & safety issue, For far too long, people who abused referees [either verbally or physically] got away with it. Now, it's got to a level that's completely unacceptable. What I'd like to know is why would anyone basically want to go out to officiate, if there's any chance that they'll get the crap kicked out of them?

The disincentives now far outweigh the incentives for going out & refereeing, in my view, & it will be v difficult to get new recruits, let alone hang on to the dwindling numbers who want to do it.

While I agree with most of your points in terms of how unacceptable it is to be under threat and that it may well prove difficult to get new referee's.  No physical or verbal abuse should ever be tolerated.  If anything, it is an opportunity for clubs in Antrim to send motions to GAA convention around how to tackle the issue on a national level. 

You say you don't understand the 'democratic decisions' point i'm making.  It really is simple.  The GAA has decision making bodies and within that process, individuals, clubs and county boards have right to appeal decisions.  The referee's committee is as much part of the GAA as is any club, county board or individual member which means we all must accept the decisions taken by the GAA once they reach their conclusion.  That is not to say that there could be a counter appeal and if that goes against Rasharkin then the club must accept that after exhausting any other avenues.  No if the referee's committee are talking about a wholesale strike (which the rumours are suggesting), then that means that no clubs will get games regardless of fee's paid, exemplary past behaviour or anything else which in my opinion would be bringing our association into disrepute.  For example, if McDermott's GAC felt they were hard done by in suspensions and appeals and if that club decided disrespect the democratic decisions taken (democratic by means of elections, votes, national democratically accepted rules etc) and go on strike, the in my opinion McDermott's GAC would be bringing the association into disrepute.  Other teams suffer because of their actions.  In the referee's case, if they decide to go on strike, then nobody will get games and that is wrong.

I agree something needs to happen on a national scale around respect for refs and the rugby idea is a great example of how it can work but that is up to clubs, referee's committees or individuals to put forward those idea's to be decided upon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 10:21:09 AM
Quote from: 4father on January 01, 2012, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on January 01, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
I don't understand this "democratic decisions" point.

If the county set up a set of fixtures for the weekend, then the Referees' Committee will allocate those matches to particular referees.

A referee has the ultimate right to expect that if he goes out to do a match, then he will come home in the same shape as he went out.

That is what it's all about - it's a basic health & safety issue, For far too long, people who abused referees [either verbally or physically] got away with it. Now, it's got to a level that's completely unacceptable. What I'd like to know is why would anyone basically want to go out to officiate, if there's any chance that they'll get the crap kicked out of them?

The disincentives now far outweigh the incentives for going out & refereeing, in my view, & it will be v difficult to get new recruits, let alone hang on to the dwindling numbers who want to do it.

While I agree with most of your points in terms of how unacceptable it is to be under threat and that it may well prove difficult to get new referee's.  No physical or verbal abuse should ever be tolerated.  If anything, it is an opportunity for clubs in Antrim to send motions to GAA convention around how to tackle the issue on a national level. 

You say you don't understand the 'democratic decisions' point i'm making.  It really is simple.  The GAA has decision making bodies and within that process, individuals, clubs and county boards have right to appeal decisions.  The referee's committee is as much part of the GAA as is any club, county board or individual member which means we all must accept the decisions taken by the GAA once they reach their conclusion.  That is not to say that there could be a counter appeal and if that goes against Rasharkin then the club must accept that after exhausting any other avenues.  No if the referee's committee are talking about a wholesale strike (which the rumours are suggesting), then that means that no clubs will get games regardless of fee's paid, exemplary past behaviour or anything else which in my opinion would be bringing our association into disrepute.  For example, if McDermott's GAC felt they were hard done by in suspensions and appeals and if that club decided disrespect the democratic decisions taken (democratic by means of elections, votes, national democratically accepted rules etc) and go on strike, the in my opinion McDermott's GAC would be bringing the association into disrepute.  Other teams suffer because of their actions.  In the referee's case, if they decide to go on strike, then nobody will get games and that is wrong.

I agree something needs to happen on a national scale around respect for refs and the rugby idea is a great example of how it can work but that is up to clubs, referee's committees or individuals to put forward those idea's to be decided upon.

4Father what was democratic about the UC decision? get real or I would suggest do your research in relation to what actually happened at UC then come back on and talk about "Bringing the game into disrepute", your posts actually show how little you really know about what went on! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 02, 2012, 11:59:30 AM
Well I can only assume that an appeal was lodged by Rasharkin and the appeal was partly upheld.  Ulster Council is a democratic layer of the GAA so I can only presume that this body gave Rasharkin their hearing and decided that the Antrim Boards punishment was either harsh or illegal or something like that.

Let me begin my research by asking you what went on instead of being all secretive about it.  What WASN'T right about the UCs decision?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
To assume (ass u me) and then to presume is where you go wrong so anything after that is pure BS, and as thought you expound and take the live and let live approach in your posts, either harsh or illegal, jesus you really are full of it aren't you, so you can assume seeing as you like the word that an appeal by Antrim suggests that not everything is right in the process. It doesn't take a genius to work that one out, the truth will out, and I am not here to educate, however previous posts on both codes here by other individuals should carry you some way to realising that unless you actually know what your talking about and are in full possession of the facts then stay off these sites  and refrain from spouting BS. Again my previous posts deal with RM, and you like many others should take the time to actually read the detail instead of jumping on the bandwagon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
And reiterate again I don't give two fcks about Rasharkin, UC and Antrim and what they do, the treatment of RM by all three parties in this process and referee's in the future is my only concern.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 02, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
To assume (ass u me) and then to presume is where you go wrong so anything after that is pure BS, and as thought you expound and take the live and let live approach in your posts, either harsh or illegal, jesus you really are full of it aren't you, so you can assume seeing as you like the word that an appeal by Antrim suggests that not everything is right in the process. It doesn't take a genius to work that one out, the truth will out, and I am not here to educate, however previous posts on both codes here by other individuals should carry you some way to realising that unless you actually know what your talking about and are in full possession of the facts then stay off these sites  and refrain from spouting BS. Again my previous posts deal with RM, and you like many others should take the time to actually read the detail instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

1. Thanks for the English lesson.  (Although, you should probably learn a bit about punctuation as I'm still trying to decipher the first part of your post).

2. If I'm wrong or if there is something wrong with the process then why wouldn't you just tell me so that I can accept being wrong?  Maybe you just don't know.

You have failed to change my mind unfortunately.  To make this absolutely clear.  I have sympathy for Ray Matthews, Owen Elliot and any other referee's but as far as I can see it, the due process has so far taken place and as members of our democratic association we must accept its findings.

3. Why are you so angry?  Chillax man, its a discussion board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 02, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
all this negative chat on the forum this past couple of months.
we are now into january, pre season will be starting for all clubs very soon with the ulster hurling league starting early feb. great to be back at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
I agree antrimgeal,   before you know it, it will be back thick and fast.   anyone see anything different this time round?   can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day?   will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year?    will shamrocks do the famous 3?   if not who will stop them a why?? BTW   not looking a slabbering match,   trying to get the hurling talk going again instead of the crap that has been
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 02, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Yes, No, No, No, Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 02, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
I agree antrimgeal,   before you know it, it will be back thick and fast.   anyone see anything different this time round?   can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day?   will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year?    will shamrocks do the famous 3?   if not who will stop them a why?? BTW   not looking a slabbering match,   trying to get the hurling talk going again instead of the crap that has been

Any word on upcoming challenge matches, Sleeping Giant??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 02, 2012, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 02, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Yes, No, No, No, Dunloy

:D

are those genuine answers, or just real wishful thinking and spoken with your green/yellow hat on ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 02, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
And reiterate again I don't give two fcks about Rasharkin, UC and Antrim and what they do, the treatment of RM by all three parties in this process and referee's in the future is my only concern.

Are you proposing to do anything about it Mibag?  What's the feeling among other referees, are they going to strike, refuse to do games or is this just all idle talk?

Actions speak louder than words and all that crap -  I could think of a few referees (without naming names) who I would not trust in the slightest, when push comes to shove. It would be interesting to see who stands up to be counted?  The egotists among them - will adopt the usual self preservation stance I would assume!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 02, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Yes, No, No, No, Dunloy
:D    hahahaha,    some craic,   use crowd are back training again?  what about mc gee?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 02, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
I agree antrimgeal,   before you know it, it will be back thick and fast.   anyone see anything different this time round?   can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day?   will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year?    will shamrocks do the famous 3?   if not who will stop them a why?? BTW   not looking a slabbering match,   trying to get the hurling talk going again instead of the crap that has been

Any word on upcoming challenge matches, Sleeping Giant??
havnt heard anything,   trained new years eve and trained new years day, for why i dont know.   id think they will have a trip to james stephens lined up,  been down few times as past few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Mibag .... you're shouting at folk who "are unaware of "the facts"" but surely you want people to understand your POV? You're attitude isn't helping bring that about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 03, 2012, 06:12:47 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 02, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
I agree antrimgeal,   before you know it, it will be back thick and fast.   anyone see anything different this time round?   can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day?   will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year?    will shamrocks do the famous 3?   if not who will stop them a why?? BTW   not looking a slabbering match,   trying to get the hurling talk going again instead of the crap that has been

Any word on upcoming challenge matches, Sleeping Giant??
havnt heard anything,   trained new years eve and trained new years day, for why i dont know.   id think they will have a trip to james stephens lined up,  been down few times as past few years
I posted this a few pages back. It came from a very good source.  AFAIK this is the schedule.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2011, 03:24:46 PM
Loughgiel All Ireland semi confirmed for Parnell pk, 11/2/12.

Challenge games vs ucd, kkenny, dublin, carlow, queens, antrim and middletown over next 6 weeks. Training new years eve and day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Mibag .... you're shouting at folk who "are unaware of "the facts"" but surely you want people to understand your POV? You're attitude isn't helping bring that about

Point taken theskull, rays treatment in the whole scheme of things has been ridiculous to say the least, its difficult to read some of the BS that is posted from time to time when I think of the crap we referee's have to take year in year out and the few games you actually get that gives you the satisfaction and enjoyment in doing the role to start off with, and I am aware that the standard of refereeing is poor in Antrim bar a few lads in both codes, and yes that is the counties and referee's committees fault for not having a structured set up that continually monitors referee's performance and fitness and educates them in the rule book, I doubt 40% would pass a rules test in the morning if you set them to task, but still this weakness does not excuse what has taken place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 03, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 02, 2012, 06:50:03 PM
I agree antrimgeal,   before you know it, it will be back thick and fast.   anyone see anything different this time round?   can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day?   will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year?    will shamrocks do the famous 3?   if not who will stop them a why?? BTW   not looking a slabbering match,   trying to get the hurling talk going again instead of the crap that has been

First of Happy New Year to everybody and good luck to Loughgeil next month. I hope youse do Antrim proud.

anyone see anything different this time round?  not much
can the shamrocks still be going Paddy's day? yes
will the galls go a step further after there amazing performances last year? that would be good to see
will shamrocks do the famous 3? yes
if not who will stop them a why??  onlly Cushendall can stop them if they have all there players availible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 03, 2012, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Mibag .... you're shouting at folk who "are unaware of "the facts"" but surely you want people to understand your POV? You're attitude isn't helping bring that about

Point taken theskull, rays treatment in the whole scheme of things has been ridiculous to say the least, its difficult to read some of the BS that is posted from time to time when I think of the crap we referee's have to take year in year out and the few games you actually get that gives you the satisfaction and enjoyment in doing the role to start off with, and I am aware that the standard of refereeing is poor in Antrim bar a few lads in both codes, and yes that is the counties and referee's committees fault for not having a structured set up that continually monitors referee's performance and fitness and educates them in the rule book, I doubt 40% would pass a rules test in the morning if you set them to task, but still this weakness does not excuse what has taken place.

No disrespect at all meant here and I am definitely not on the wind up here but you didn't answer the question.  What went on that wasn't how it should have went on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
And reiterate again I don't give two fcks about Rasharkin, UC and Antrim and what they do, the treatment of RM by all three parties in this process and referee's in the future is my only concern.

Not sure who you are - doesn't really matter - however you don't give two fcks about Antrim, only referees, and then you proceed to declare that a lot of them are poor anyway which is hardly supporting referees.

If you don't give a fck then what will your role be in future? Seems there are many personal agendas going on with your posts.

I don't pretend to know what's going on here but you're coming on here doing a lot of maligning of, lots of, different people. You're not doing yourself or your cause, whatever that is exactly, any favours.

Loughgiel or Cushendall to win next year as I think Dunloy have slipped back a bit. Cushendall. if they had the forwards, would win it but not sure they do unless some of the underage talent starts coming through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 03, 2012, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Mibag .... you're shouting at folk who "are unaware of "the facts"" but surely you want people to understand your POV? You're attitude isn't helping bring that about

Point taken theskull, rays treatment in the whole scheme of things has been ridiculous to say the least, its difficult to read some of the BS that is posted from time to time when I think of the crap we referee's have to take year in year out and the few games you actually get that gives you the satisfaction and enjoyment in doing the role to start off with, and I am aware that the standard of refereeing is poor in Antrim bar a few lads in both codes, and yes that is the counties and referee's committees fault for not having a structured set up that continually monitors referee's performance and fitness and educates them in the rule book, I doubt 40% would pass a rules test in the morning if you set them to task, but still this weakness does not excuse what has taken place.

No disrespect at all meant here and I am definitely not on the wind up here but you didn't answer the question.  What went on that wasn't how it should have went on?
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 03, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
And reiterate again I don't give two fcks about Rasharkin, UC and Antrim and what they do, the treatment of RM by all three parties in this process and referee's in the future is my only concern.

Not sure who you are - doesn't really matter - however you don't give two fcks about Antrim, only referees, and then you proceed to declare that a lot of them are poor anyway which is hardly supporting referees.

If you don't give a fck then what will your role be in future? Seems there are many personal agendas going on with your posts.

I don't pretend to know what's going on here but you're coming on here doing a lot of maligning of, lots of, different people. You're not doing yourself or your cause, whatever that is exactly, any favours.

Loughgiel or Cushendall to win next year as I think Dunloy have slipped back a bit. Cushendall. if they had the forwards, would win it but not sure they do unless some of the underage talent starts coming through.

Imtommygunn I have no cause and I am the first to admit honestly our refereeing standards are poor but that doesn't make them bad people does it? the reality is they have been let down by the county and referee's committee who will not set structures in place to improve standards and allow better quality of officialdom during games.

4father I am not here to answer in relation to specifics, eventually it will all come out as most of us know nothing stays secret in the GAA for too long. Ask your secretary for the details of the appeal that Antrim are making and that should set you on the right track. On a lighter note you should join the stoop down low party, there is a definite ring to your pros. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on January 03, 2012, 07:04:36 PM
Lads please say a prayer for Jody Watson, a St John's Minor player, who is in intensive care in hospital following an accident on Saturday night. Hopefully he can pull through this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 03, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 02, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
Mibag .... you're shouting at folk who "are unaware of "the facts"" but surely you want people to understand your POV? You're attitude isn't helping bring that about

Point taken theskull, rays treatment in the whole scheme of things has been ridiculous to say the least, its difficult to read some of the BS that is posted from time to time when I think of the crap we referee's have to take year in year out and the few games you actually get that gives you the satisfaction and enjoyment in doing the role to start off with, and I am aware that the standard of refereeing is poor in Antrim bar a few lads in both codes, and yes that is the counties and referee's committees fault for not having a structured set up that continually monitors referee's performance and fitness and educates them in the rule book, I doubt 40% would pass a rules test in the morning if you set them to task, but still this weakness does not excuse what has taken place.


While I have agreed with much of what you have been saying up until now, MIBAG, you could maybe start the ball rolling, by putting forward some sound proposals as to how we can address these shortcomings in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 03, 2012, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 02, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
And reiterate again I don't give two fcks about Rasharkin, UC and Antrim and what they do, the treatment of RM by all three parties in this process and referee's in the future is my only concern.

Are you proposing to do anything about it Mibag?  What's the feeling among other referees, are they going to strike, refuse to do games or is this just all idle talk?

Actions speak louder than words and all that crap -  I could think of a few referees (without naming names) who I would not trust in the slightest, when push comes to shove. It would be interesting to see who stands up to be counted?  The egotists among them - will adopt the usual self preservation stance I would assume!
Ahoy there Mibag.  No response to my questions?  Come on lad, what is your stance here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on January 04, 2012, 12:43:18 PM
hope the young johnnies lad fine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on January 04, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
Jaysus hope the young fella is alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 04, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: samboswig on January 04, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
Jaysus hope the young fella is alright.

Yes, I hope the lad will be ok.

Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
4father I am not here to answer in relation to specifics, eventually it will all come out as most of us know nothing stays secret in the GAA for too long. Ask your secretary for the details of the appeal that Antrim are making and that should set you on the right track. On a lighter note you should join the stoop down low party, there is a definite ring to your pros. ;)

In the absence of any information offered by you, how do you expect to change my opinion?  And I didn't understand what you meant about the SDLP and my 'pros'?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 04, 2012, 11:37:13 PM
Anyone have any idea on when this year's fixtures are released?
Or when are the championship draws?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 05, 2012, 08:23:45 AM
Quote from: 4father on January 04, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: samboswig on January 04, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
Jaysus hope the young fella is alright.

Yes, I hope the lad will be ok.

Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
4father I am not here to answer in relation to specifics, eventually it will all come out as most of us know nothing stays secret in the GAA for too long. Ask your secretary for the details of the appeal that Antrim are making and that should set you on the right track. On a lighter note you should join the stoop down low party, there is a definite ring to your pros. ;)

In the absence of any information offered by you, how do you expect to change my opinion?  And I didn't understand what you meant about the SDLP and my 'pros'?

Why would I want to change your opinion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 05, 2012, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 02, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
To assume (ass u me) and then to presume is where you go wrong so anything after that is pure BS... jesus you really are full of it aren't you... unless you actually know what your talking about and are in full possession of the facts then stay off these sites  and refrain from spouting BS... read the detail instead of jumping on the bandwagon...

In fairness, you wrote enough times that I know nothing but BS, that i'm full of it and that I should stay off this unless i am in full possession of the facts etc etc etc.  It would be a bit silly telling me all of this and then ask me why I would want you to change my opinion don't you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 05, 2012, 03:59:56 PM
Again you seem to have a selective memory, you came on spouting the phrase democratic this and that,bringing the game into disrepute and so and so on, based on pure hearsay, granted they where your opinions, but to reiterate based on nothing. I am aware of the full facts that in time will take there course, however my problem is with the treatment in all this of a good referee and a genuine lad, that we have now lost because of peoples agendas, which completely lost sight of the facts and now we have lost RM, this should never have happened. Ultimately who is responsible for this, UC. County,and Referee's committee, a man and his officials where badly assaulted yes, and the authorities will deal with that in due course, my point has always centered around RM and how he has been treated which you have never engaged on, and that's all that concerns me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 05, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
Asides from your problem with my posts, I have zero problem with most of yours.  RM is indeed a good lad and I hope he reverses his decision.  More importantly, I hope that the likes of you, him and everyone else get to work in drawing something up that could maybe go national that will ensure that respect for referee's is paramount.  I have no problem with that.

Your first little rant is ridiculous.  What I wrote (and stand by) is based on the fact that I know that Rasharkin appealed to the Ulster council.  That right cannot be refused.  It is in our constitution and rules.  Simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on January 05, 2012, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 05, 2012, 08:23:45 AM
Quote from: 4father on January 04, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: samboswig on January 04, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
Jaysus hope the young fella is alright.

Yes, I hope the lad will be ok.

Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on January 03, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
4father I am not here to answer in relation to specifics, eventually it will all come out as most of us know nothing stays secret in the GAA for too long. Ask your secretary for the details of the appeal that Antrim are making and that should set you on the right track. On a lighter note you should join the stoop down low party, there is a definite ring to your pros. ;)

In the absence of any information offered by you, how do you expect to change my opinion?  And I didn't understand what you meant about the SDLP and my 'pros'?

Why would I want to change your opinion?

Just to update, Jody is now out of intensive care and progressing in his recovery
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 05, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Great news all around.  For him, for the driver, their families and St Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on January 06, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
I think you have the Ref bate 4father! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 06, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
anybody have the list of antrim teams entered in the ulster league. gets underway in a month
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 06, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 06, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
anybody have the list of antrim teams entered in the ulster league. gets underway in a month
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They are on the Ulster Council Website. Do Antrim teams treat this as anything other than a pre-season now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 07, 2012, 12:50:57 AM
Quote from: samboswig on January 06, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
I think you have the Ref bate 4father! :D

Twas never my intention.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on January 07, 2012, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 06, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 06, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
anybody have the list of antrim teams entered in the ulster league. gets underway in a month
[/quote

They are on the Ulster Council Website. Do Antrim teams treat this as anything other than a pre-season now?

Think most antrim teams use it in preparation for the leagues.  The timing this year is proof of it.  Good idea

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 07, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
had a look..fairly poor turnout from teams this year? has the intrest gone??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 07, 2012, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 07, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
had a look..fairly poor turnout from teams this year? has the intrest gone??
No Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 08, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
from a quick scan..no cushendall. cloughmills. rasharkin. creggan. surely every team should be using this as pre season. competative matches in febuary, yes please. antrim leagues wont start to probably april so its a long pre season for a lot of teams. any prediction on whos going to win leagues and championship this year??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Championship - dall to pip shamrocks
Div1 - shamrocks (prob ulster league also)
Div2 - oisins (maybe Rossa)
Div3 - clooney Gaels

Just think the hurt if the last few years will finally drive cushendall to win with greater desire than a loughuile team on the back of continuous winning (only natural) even more so if it lasts until St Patricks day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on January 08, 2012, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 07, 2012, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 07, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
had a look..fairly poor turnout from teams this year? has the intrest gone??
No Cushendall?

Should have entered in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 08, 2012, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 08, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
from a quick scan..no cushendall. cloughmills. rasharkin. creggan. surely every team should be using this as pre season. competative matches in febuary, yes please. antrim leagues wont start to probably april so its a long pre season for a lot of teams. any prediction on whos going to win leagues and championship this year??

So how come no Glenravel then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on January 08, 2012, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: the colonel on January 08, 2012, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 07, 2012, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 07, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
had a look..fairly poor turnout from teams this year? has the intrest gone??
No Cushendall?

Should have entered in my opinion.

Have to agree, even if they tell top 15 to stay away, give others a chance to impress, better than months of training and then little game time.  Unless management have a set panel of say 20 and they don't feel rest are up to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 08, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
Championship - dall to pip shamrocks
Div1 - shamrocks (prob ulster league also)
Div2 - oisins (maybe Rossa)
Div3 - clooney Gaels

Just think the hurt if the last few years will finally drive cushendall to win with greater desire than a loughuile team on the back of continuous winning (only natural) even more so if it lasts until St Patricks day!
Shamrocks have as much desire to win this year as ever. There's the fact of going on top of the pile by ourselves to strive for this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
I don't doubt that but every team will have their own motivation. I am not suggesting loughuile won't be motivated at all - just that the pain of losing is sometimes the greatest incentive. AnywY you boys have bigger fish to fry before worrying about it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2012, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2012, 06:42:46 PM
I don't doubt that but every team will have their own motivation. I am not suggesting loughuile won't be motivated at all - just that the pain of losing is sometimes the greatest incentive. AnywY you boys have bigger fish to fry before worrying about it!
Speaking of which, I hear that the practice games went well this week, with another couple to come down south this weekend .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 09, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
Who did you play this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2012, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 09, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
Who did you play this weekend?
play Dublin and UCD this weekend coming. Beat Middletown last week and queens last night. A lot of the squad players got a run out.

I mis-read your question max, hence the edit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
Got to think shamrocks will win - going to get the money on as soon as i can - if a wage packet ever arrives!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 08:45:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 09, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
Got to think shamrocks will win - going to get the money on as soon as i can - if a wage packet ever arrives!

Btdtgtt Why?

What give you the this confidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 10, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Fate!

I just think that the other teams in the competition lack many real stand out players that could hurt Loughuile - and they dont have the tradition of the teams that Dunloy or Cushendall have face over previous years.

I know all the arguments that can go against.
I know teams dont get to this stage without being handy.
I know southern teams are often more physical than us.

But!

I think Loughuile will get lucky (relax SIE!)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 10:52:36 AM
Scoring averages alone would lead me to believe that LG will come up short, look at championship scores over the past couple or years. Big games and then look at the semi finals over past number of years and see what typical score it will take to win a semi.

Just statistics I know but wouldnt leave me with much confidence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2012, 11:52:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 10:52:36 AM
Scoring averages alone would lead me to believe that LG will come up short, look at championship scores over the past couple or years. Big games and then look at the semi finals over past number of years and see what typical score it will take to win a semi.

Just statistics I know but wouldn't leave me with much confidence.

What i took from last years semi final was the amount of ball dropped which on normal occasions would have been caught and delivered up field, maybe nerves the occasion got to them. DD was only hitting midfield with his puck outs to which was strange, Hogan played mainly (in first half) in the full back area so he could have hit further.

Improve on last years attempt and they could get over the line against poor Munster opposition. considering the teams from years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 01:09:06 PM
MR2, that what happens when you go up a level, been happening to Antrim for last few years too. Touch and decision making go out the window when a level of pressure comes on that has never been experienced before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2012, 03:00:36 PM
I know NAG1 a bit of composure can make all the difference, that game from last year will I'm sure help.

Are Loughgiel stronger than last year? Going by the county final they are only a couple of points better but that was playing against a team without their main player, who would have made a big difference.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
MR2 That is my point they haven't significantly improved in fact could be argued that they are weaker than last year, but these games all very on the day type of games so you never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Be an interesting game, the Munster champions will think they have the best side of the draw (getting Ulster) and Loughgiel no doubt will try and prove that last years game wasn't a true reflection of how they can play. When was the last time the county champions got to the final? (Dunloy)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
MR2 That is my point they haven't significantly improved in fact could be argued that they are weaker than last year, but these games all very on the day type of games so you never know.
How could it be argued that they are weaker?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2012, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Be an interesting game, the Munster champions will think they have the best side of the draw (getting Ulster) and Loughgiel no doubt will try and prove that last years game wasn't a true reflection of how they can play. When was the last time the county champions got to the final? (Dunloy)
2003-04.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 11, 2012, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
MR2 That is my point they haven't significantly improved in fact could be argued that they are weaker than last year, but these games all very on the day type of games so you never know.
How could it be argued that they are weaker?

Well IMO JC hasnt played as well for this season due to injury and playing him on the wing isnt his best position. Think MS at CHB can be exposed for pace. But when all is said and done it comes down to the two forwards LW and EMcC, either one of these have an off day and leaves a serious responsibility on the other to have a super day out. If both of these have a good day at the office then its game on if not they will have a tough day just as any of the other 3 teams would have if their two best forwards dont play well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 11, 2012, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
MR2 That is my point they haven't significantly improved in fact could be argued that they are weaker than last year, but these games all very on the day type of games so you never know.
How could it be argued that they are weaker?

Well IMO JC hasnt played as well for this season due to injury and playing him on the wing isnt his best position. Think MS at CHB can be exposed for pace. But when all is said and done it comes down to the two forwards LW and EMcC, either one of these have an off day and leaves a serious responsibility on the other to have a super day out. If both of these have a good day at the office then its game on if not they will have a tough day just as any of the other 3 teams would have if their two best forwards dont play well.
I don't see how they are any weaker than last year though. As you said JC was probably the only one who was down on form this year, which was due to injury. As for LW and EmcC, I don't think they performed as well as they can last year, or the year before, but I agree it will take a performance from the whole team to progress. From what I'm hearing from the training everyone is fully fit and raring to get at Na Piarsagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
SIE stop taking the bait ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2012, 12:57:45 PM
We'll find out next month MR2.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
Beat UCD yesterday, playing Dublin today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on January 15, 2012, 03:16:29 PM
any word of how the shams dublin game went, hear that next sunday in armoy they play jerry and the boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2012, 03:20:20 PM
Got beat 3-17 to 1-14. No winker or neilly. Dubs scored 1-4 in last 4 mins of 70 minute game. By all accounts played well. I would fancy them to do one on Jerry's boys.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2012, 03:36:42 PM
I would think at this time of year the shamrocks would be expecting to beat the county set-up easily! Good indications from Dublin game - think na piarsaigh in for a turnover. 5/2 loughiel shows bookies agree this is not a done deal and I still think it's a generous price.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 15, 2012, 03:57:49 PM
David Treacy, engaged in an ongoing war with his hamstrings, is back training and may hurl in one of two challenge matches Dublin play this weekend, against Gort and Loughgiel, two All-Ireland club semi-finalists.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/prodigal-returns-armed-with-hope-and-potential-2989265.html

Do you know how Gort fared? That might give a bit of a form guide.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
Dublin 5-16 gort 1-10
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Post by: BlackandAmber on January 15, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
that puts youse ahead of Gort then. Any idea about Na Piarsaigh or Coolderry's preparations
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
It's hard to determine anything right now B+A.lots of teams are just warming up.  We're not getting complacent at all but are confident enough of getting past Na Piarsiagh.
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Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
Have heard (or seen on here) Saturday 11th Feb at Parnell for the Bodies semi final...is this confirmed? Any specific time?

Winker and Neilly just being rested or any tweaks?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
That's the confirmed venue Glensman, 2.30. They were just rested, no injuries     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 15, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Cheers...2.30 on a Saturday. Few beers to celebrate after then for you with no work the next day.

Good to hear it re Watson and McGarry. Still a few games left no doubt but they should have the strongest team out for a couple of them...need to be playing as a unit. They know the craic no doubt.
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Post by: btdtgtt on January 19, 2012, 10:43:26 AM
I see on the county website the championship draws will take place on February 27. Does anyone know how this is done? In an open meeting etc? I am not for one miunte suggesting anything underhand - genuinely just curious.

Also does anyone have any info on when the master fixtures are relaesed for league games etc?

SIE I wonder as All-Ireland champions will the Shamrocks be seeded for next year's draw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Exiled John on January 19, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2012, 10:43:26 AM
I see on the county website the championship draws will take place on February 27. Does anyone know how this is done? In an open meeting etc? I am not for one miunte suggesting anything underhand - genuinely just curious.

Also does anyone have any info on when the master fixtures are relaesed for league games etc?

SIE I wonder as All-Ireland champions will the Shamrocks be seeded for next year's draw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The draws are usually taken place in front of the county committee (club reps and all) and previously they took place in the tennets factory on glen road when they were sponsors.

The GAA master fixtures came out at start of december and have been disappointed myself that the county have yet to even release dates for fixtures.  Surely the CCC can see the dates to play the fixtures and thus give a document even stating round 1, round 2, for league and c/ship etc.  And then the computer system fixes the actual games so why it takes so long is beyond me.  From a mgt point of view it certainly makes the pre-season plan very open ended as we have no idea when to change our training to reflect the games starting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on January 19, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
Quote from: Exiled John on January 19, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2012, 10:43:26 AM
I see on the county website the championship draws will take place on February 27. Does anyone know how this is done? In an open meeting etc? I am not for one miunte suggesting anything underhand - genuinely just curious.

Also does anyone have any info on when the master fixtures are relaesed for league games etc?

SIE I wonder as All-Ireland champions will the Shamrocks be seeded for next year's draw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The draws are usually taken place in front of the county committee (club reps and all) and previously they took place in the tennets factory on glen road when they were sponsors.

The GAA master fixtures came out at start of december and have been disappointed myself that the county have yet to even release dates for fixtures.  Surely the CCC can see the dates to play the fixtures and thus give a document even stating round 1, round 2, for league and c/ship etc.  And then the computer system fixes the actual games so why it takes so long is beyond me.  From a mgt point of view it certainly makes the pre-season plan very open ended as we have no idea when to change our training to reflect the games starting.

John generally your club would have them by now. The fixtures have to be agreed by the clubs that's why they take so long
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled John on January 19, 2012, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: oisinog on January 19, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
Quote from: Exiled John on January 19, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2012, 10:43:26 AM
I see on the county website the championship draws will take place on February 27. Does anyone know how this is done? In an open meeting etc? I am not for one miunte suggesting anything underhand - genuinely just curious.

Also does anyone have any info on when the master fixtures are relaesed for league games etc?

SIE I wonder as All-Ireland champions will the Shamrocks be seeded for next year's draw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The draws are usually taken place in front of the county committee (club reps and all) and previously they took place in the tennets factory on glen road when they were sponsors.

The GAA master fixtures came out at start of december and have been disappointed myself that the county have yet to even release dates for fixtures.  Surely the CCC can see the dates to play the fixtures and thus give a document even stating round 1, round 2, for league and c/ship etc.  And then the computer system fixes the actual games so why it takes so long is beyond me.  From a mgt point of view it certainly makes the pre-season plan very open ended as we have no idea when to change our training to reflect the games starting.

John generally your club would have them by now. The fixtures have to be agreed by the clubs that's why they take so long


Im unaware of any stage when the clubs had to agree on fixtures.  From previous I am aware the went through club reps on the county committee  for approval but despite being very close to the committee in my club we have yet to recieve any. It is possible that because the countys agm was extended to this week to be completed there was a hold on them but i am not too sure on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
Previous reasons given for why it takes so long is due to having to accomodate Down hurling clubs/county team, and our own county teams.  There is a meeting with Down hurling mgmt to sound out what is unavailable for fixtures involving down teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 19, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
Previous reasons given for why it takes so long is due to having to accomodate Down hurling clubs/county team, and our own county teams.  There is a meeting with Down hurling mgmt to sound out what is unavailable for fixtures involving down teams.

I think that meeting or conversation is with Down county board as they've already had a discussion with the clubs and county management a few weeks back.
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Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 22, 2012, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

Willy Mitchell????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

Have you any decent debate about Antrim? Or are you full of shite all the time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 22, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

It's Gary Brown isn't it?  :o

I knew it...I knew it !!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 22, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Excuse my ignorance but what is this whole discussion about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 22, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Excuse my ignorance but what is this whole discussion about?
From an outside point of view it looks like a whole load of nothing. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 22, 2012, 06:34:05 PM
How did the County get on today
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Post by: Glensman on January 22, 2012, 06:35:27 PM
You in Armoy today SIE? How Boadies go against Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 22, 2012, 06:57:50 PM
From what I heard of the goalkeeping performances today the two Antrim goalkeepers this year were playing for Loughgiel.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Two 20 mins and two 25 mins periods  played. The first 15 were taken off after 50 mins. Antrim won 3-20 to 3-17. Everyone was happy after the first 15 mins.

On another note, Na Piarsaigh got beat by 21 points by Dublin yesterday and had a man sent off. Not good having a man sent off in a warm up game.  Easily rattled perhaps?

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Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 07:41:58 PM
Na Piarsaigh won't be as good as last years semi finalist that's for sure. The Limerick intermedaite champions were beat today by Middletown, Well beaten too.

If (big if) Loughgiel bring their best game then they will get a crack at an All Ireland final and who knows.

Any more games or is that it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
Effin?

Wexford and carlow next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 22, 2012, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Two 20 mins and two 25 mins periods  played. The first 15 were taken off after 50 mins. Antrim won 3-20 to 3-17. Everyone was happy after the first 15 mins.

On another note, Na Piarsaigh got beat by 21 points by Dublin yesterday and had a man sent off. Not good having a man sent off in a warm up game.  Easily rattled perhaps?

Where did you get that score SIE? Someone on reservoirdubs had the Dubs winning by 3 18 to 1 12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
Effin?

Wexford and carlow next weekend.

They were Effin awful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 08:14:56 PM
If I keep teeing them up will you keep hitting  the punch line MR2?

I heard it from someone who had an observer at the match. Cftto.

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Post by: btdtgtt on January 22, 2012, 09:19:29 PM
Seems strange for a northern team but I will be surprised if loughiel don't win the all Ireland!
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Post by: saffronog on January 22, 2012, 10:02:13 PM
thats a high scoring game.  Shams must be pleased.  was mr watson in action, how did he play.  wouldn't be as worried about the limerick players getting sent off as much as watson. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

Have you any decent debate about Antrim? Or are you full of shite all the time?
Excuse me! And your topics of discussion are so enthralling and stimulating?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 10:03:52 PM
Read my previous posts saffronog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

Have you any decent debate about Antrim? Or are you full of shite all the time?
Excuse me! And your topics of discussion are so enthralling and stimulating?

You're a WUM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 22, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: MickeyMacMhagUidhir on January 21, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
I was talking to a very reputable source in Dublin today.  It seems one of are well known referees has a little dip in his hair, covering up some the "grey matter" on top.  How vain  :o  I wonder who that could be? Vanity, oh vanity.  :-X

Have you any decent debate about Antrim? Or are you full of shite all the time?
Excuse me! And your topics of discussion are so enthralling and stimulating?

You're a WUM
   8)

No need for the abuse here, nor the veiled identity reference. Both against the rules, so less of it please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Stop taking the bait MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
Stop taking the bait MR2.

No bait here, possibly a ban though  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
I think the hook was chewed on alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 23, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
LG not be slightly concerned at losing the game at the weekend? Just would have thought that this would be the peak of their training with only a couple of weeks to go.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 11:17:47 AM
From what I can gather NAG, it wasn't played at full pelt. I think they're hoping for a much tougher contest this weekend with everyone present.
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Post by: NAG1 on January 23, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Yeah I had heard that the county boys werent in great shape so thats why I asked, but maybe the lack of intensity affected both side then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Perhaps that and the fact LG finished the last 40 mins with the reserves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 23, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
Whats the story on NMcG then SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
I think he's been busy. The last I heard everyone was fit.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on January 23, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
I was told by good source yesterday that he won't make it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2012, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 23, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
Whats the story on NMcG then SIE

Bad back I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 23, 2012, 01:27:45 PM
Yeah thats what I had heard but wasnt sure if it was close to the mark, leaves a big hole in the back line if he doesnt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on January 23, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Loughgiel started with 4 missing yesterday, most picked up a few small knocks in Dublin and it was wiser to rest them. I'm told all will be fit for the semi. I don't think the score mattered too much yesterday, good enough run out.
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Post by: saffronog on January 23, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
very nasty affair in intermediate football semi between the tyrone club and kerry boys.  what happened minder with the two county keepers, you said they seemed to be poor. loughiel have had a very busy schedule this past while, SIE you say they are away again at weekend.  I hope they don't over cook prepartations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 10:07:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on January 23, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
very nasty affair in intermediate football semi between the tyrone club and kerry boys.  what happened minder with the two county keepers, you said they seemed to be poor. loughiel have had a very busy schedule this past while, SIE you say they are away again at weekend.  I hope they don't over cook prepartations.
PJ has been starting the games with the first team and then replacing them with the reserves after a while. I think this weekend he'll probably play them for the full duration of the games, barring niggles of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
I see Aidan McAteer got the Cushendall manager job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimlad on January 24, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
I see Aidan McAteer got the Cushendall manager job.

Whos he?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 24, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
There's your coat, there's the door!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2012, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: antrimlad on January 24, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
I see Aidan McAteer got the Cushendall manager job.

Whos he?

Ah i think he's Aidan McAteer  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on January 24, 2012, 07:14:37 PM
He's from Cushendall, down in the Glens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 24, 2012, 08:41:20 PM
Cushendall? Where's that then?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 24, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
Quote from: antrimlad on January 24, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 23, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
I see Aidan McAteer got the Cushendall manager job.

Whos he?

;D. You're not long forgotten. Ask your daddy who he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 25, 2012, 06:08:53 PM
Aidan Mc Ateer, former championship winning captain (1992) Full back for Cushendall for most of the 1990's. Played for Antrim as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Not so much high profiles appointments but I am led to believe Liam Donnelly / Paul Collins will direct St Johns this year, Rossa have brought Mickey McCullach on board who took the county camogs and Hannahstown look to be unchanged with John Crossey again? MR2 the new Director of Hurling at Milltown? I think they are undecided?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled John on January 26, 2012, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 25, 2012, 06:08:53 PM
Aidan Mc Ateer, former championship winning captain (1992) Full back for Cushendall for most of the 1990's. Played for Antrim as well.

Any idea who is helping him??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2012, 10:09:23 AM
Is he not forming part of the dream team in Armagh with DC & MJ?
Heaven help them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 12:08:57 PM
I think Crossey took quite a few sessions for Lamh Dearg no? Never seen him at any matches right enough but he nearly sure he gives the natives a hand with training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2012, 12:11:40 PM
Dee McConville i think was taking the Dhearg, I'm sure they are sickened by Middletowns win in the All Ireland Semi Final. It could have been them, though on the day (Ulster semi final) Middletown played better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 12:08:57 PM
I think Crossey took quite a few sessions for Lamh Dearg no? Never seen him at any matches right enough but he nearly sure he gives the natives a hand with training.
No. He had a busy enough schedule with Carrickmore and Clonduff camogs, I'm sure. As well as the county minors.

I think his stint with the Clonduff Camogs has come to an end.

'f**k the f**k' as the bearded wonder would say to himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Well thats most teams covered - what about the Town and Oisins plans for the year?

This must seem very tedious to you SIE!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on January 26, 2012, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Well thats most teams covered - what about the Town and Oisins plans for the year?

This must seem very tedious to you SIE!!

We are sorted training away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on January 26, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
crossey is a good coach i aways thought not the best man manager but i liked him when with us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 26, 2012, 07:46:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Well thats most teams covered - what about the Town and Oisins plans for the year?

This must seem very tedious to you SIE!!

Alex Campbell resigned from the Town. I hear Kevin mcShane is taking over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 26, 2012, 10:51:37 PM
KB captain then ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2012, 10:35:03 AM
D'OH!

Wrong McShane.  Micheal not Kevin.
Was KB not captain last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 27, 2012, 10:51:58 AM
As far as I know Aidan Mc Ateer has Kevin Mc Naughton helping him at Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 27, 2012, 11:57:56 AM
Waffler,
who is 'us'?

Portaferry or Down?

He is a good coach alright but not great along the line, loses the plot too easy when things aren't going well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 27, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: oisinog on January 26, 2012, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Well thats most teams covered - what about the Town and Oisins plans for the year?

This must seem very tedious to you SIE!!

We are sorted training away

whats your thoughts on Glenariffe entering the IHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on January 27, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: Megaman on January 27, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: oisinog on January 26, 2012, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Well thats most teams covered - what about the Town and Oisins plans for the year?

This must seem very tedious to you SIE!!

We are sorted training away

I didn't here that

whats your thoughts on Glenariffe entering the IHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
Osisns in the Intermediate? Is this confirmed?

Personally I think it sounds like an attempt to lift a handy championship and try to get the parish a day in Croker!

Granted they are entitled to enter as a divisionII team and without much success at senior but I think it shows a lack of ambition on their part.

I may be biased as a Belfast man but I think Rossa deserve credit for maintaining senior status. It shows ambition and they have shown on thier day they can compete even with the Dall & Shams - see Glenravel this year - ahead at half time and only lost by 3. It's games like this when the underdog rises up that makes championship different to league.

And before anyone flips my coin so to speak - yes I know St Johns tried the same thing as Osisins - but i didnt support that decision either. Indeed in backfired!!

Maybe the oisisns see Div1 as their real target and an unbeaten year but I think they should be playing senior.

Does that mean we only have 4 North Antrim teams plus 3 city teams in this years championship? Someone getting a bye to the semi-final?  There will be some debate if the three city teams are drawn on one side - one of the "lesser" teams guaranteed a final spot! Or will the Town get a handy draw to end the biggest drought in Antrim GAA? My money is it will come down to the Dall and the Shams again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 27, 2012, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
Osisns in the Intermediate? Is this confirmed?

Personally I think it sounds like an attempt to lift a handy championship and try to get the parish a day in Croker!

Granted they are entitled to enter as a divisionII team and without much success at senior but I think it shows a lack of ambition on their part.

I may be biased as a Belfast man but I think Rossa deserve credit for maintaining senior status. It shows ambition and they have shown on thier day they can compete even with the Dall & Shams - see Glenravel this year - ahead at half time and only lost by 3. It's games like this when the underdog rises up that makes championship different to league.

And before anyone flips my coin so to speak - yes I know St Johns tried the same thing as Osisins - but i didnt support that decision either. Indeed in backfired!!

Maybe the oisisns see Div1 as their real target and an unbeaten year but I think they should be playing senior.

Does that mean we only have 4 North Antrim teams plus 3 city teams in this years championship? Someone getting a bye to the semi-final?  There will be some debate if the three city teams are drawn on one side - one of the "lesser" teams guaranteed a final spot! Or will the Town get a handy draw to end the biggest drought in Antrim GAA? My money is it will come down to the Dall and the Shams again.

You're not biased - you're 100% right. If Glenariffe are in the Intermediate that is a complete and utter joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 27, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Were St Galls not lauded for getting to an All Ireland Intermediate final two years ago, or am i missing something?

We have won one Senior championship match in 6 years, and that was against one of the hastily organised divisional teams. I don't see the big deal. If we were in Division 1 i would say it was the wrong decision, but we aren't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 27, 2012, 10:49:34 PM
Glenarife where the poc of a ball from the county final in 2009, and in the last few years have been very close to causing a minor shock by beating one of the top three.  I would have thought the St Galls success this year would have heartened Glenarife, Rossa and the town. 

The general feeling seems to be the big three have come back to meet the rest and so it's only astray of time before we have a novel name on the volunteer cup,
I had thought the double u21 winning Ballycastle teams were best placed but Rossa, St Galls and Ossians have perhaps had the better championship performances
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 27, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
No doubt the sex appeal of the intermediate and junior all Ireland makes it an easy decision for teams to drop back down for a bit of glory to g things up a bit. Not great for the senior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2012, 11:31:16 PM
Surely the chance of getting to the business end of a Provincial and All Ireland Championship is worth a shot for second tier teams. Middletown have succeeded were Glenariffe failed against Ballinhassig in 2006and I'd say the Oisins would fancy themselves as a cut above (just!)  the best Armagh has to offer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 27, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Were St Galls not lauded for getting to an All Ireland Intermediate final two years ago, or am i missing something?

We have won one Senior championship match in 6 years, and that was against one of the hastily organised divisional teams. I don't see the big deal. If we were in Division 1 i would say it was the wrong decision, but we aren't.

St Galls's were hammered in that game though. Hopefuly Middletown can show them how to do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2012, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 27, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 27, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Were St Galls not lauded for getting to an All Ireland Intermediate final two years ago, or am i missing something?

We have won one Senior championship match in 6 years, and that was against one of the hastily organised divisional teams. I don't see the big deal. If we were in Division 1 i would say it was the wrong decision, but we aren't.
And we know who was to blame for that...

St Galls's were hammered in that game though. Hopefuly Middletown can show them how to do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on January 28, 2012, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 27, 2012, 11:57:56 AM
Waffler,
who is 'us'?

Portaferry or Down?

He is a good coach alright but not great along the line, loses the plot too easy when things aren't going well]


jonney could be one or the other or even both ????????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2012, 09:41:51 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2012, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 27, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 27, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Were St Galls not lauded for getting to an All Ireland Intermediate final two years ago, or am i missing something?

We have won one Senior championship match in 6 years, and that was against one of the hastily organised divisional teams. I don't see the big deal. If we were in Division 1 i would say it was the wrong decision, but we aren't.
And we know who was to blame for that...

St Galls's were hammered in that game though. Hopefuly Middletown can show them how to do it.

;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on January 28, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Saturday, January 28, 2012 Irish Examniner


Matthews keen to achieve ref justice

By John Fogarty

Saturday, January 28, 2012

Assaulted former GAA referee Ray Matthews has agreed to become the interim president of the Gaelic Match Officials Association (GMOA).

The Antrim ex-official, who quit refereeing after the Ulster Council reduced punishments handed out to St Mary's Rasharkin arising from an U21 game he officiated in last October, will work alongside interim secretary, Tipperary man Alan Nash who has founded the organisation.

The GMOA, which states it will be non-profit, aims to seek greater protection for match officials, review referees' match fees and mileage as well as giving them a voice at Congress.

Matthews is primarily interested in the referees being defended.

"Until we get the whole thing organised and properly set up with democratic elections, I will be holding the position," confirmed Matthews.

"An organisation like this is something we have been crying out for because of the politics of the referring world and the fear factor of not getting good matches if they complain about what has happened to them. They are hesitant to come forward. It's not like the GPA because we're about representing all referees especially club referees."

Matthews appreciates his ordeal will bring attention to his new role and the organisation but has already experienced some opposition to his decision to help spearhead it.

"My profile is not the main reason. I fully endorse and believe in this. Because of what happened my face is out there. That's the hand I've been dealt. But it's strange. I know of a referees coordinator who asked hurling referees had they heard about the association and said, 'Jesus, do you not think they could have picked a higher profile referee'.

"Already, they're trying to rubbish it and put it down without knowing the benefits that could be coming to referees."

Matthews earlier this week threw away his refereeing gear with a heavy heart. He believes he may have to rule out any possible return to officiating because his stance may offend GAA officials. However he is willing to take the risk.

"In my eyes, referees are being let down a lot," he said before addressing his own trauma. "There wasn't a more apt time or easier opportunity for the GAA to stop events like what happened to me occurring again and protect referees.

"Instead, they washed their hands of it."

Croke Park recently asked the Ulster Council to review the St Mary's appeal case which saw the council quash the number of suspensions handed down to the club by the Antrim County Board.

They reverted the case on the grounds that some evidence was not taken into consideration, although it's understood not to be enough to change their decision.

The Antrim County Board had imposed bans on the club from all competitions above and not including minor grade but the decision was overruled by the Ulster Council.

While they remain suspended from the U21 championship, because of the club's successful appeal they are now permitted to play in senior league and championship competitions.

"Seemingly, the man who put all the evidence together isn't allowed to give evidence, which is stupid," said Matthews. "Joe Edwards, chairman of the Antrim CCCC, did an excellent job in collecting all the evidence.

"The bugbears Croke Park have with the case are related to the processes but not to the actual incident. That is a failing of our association.

"Everyone seems to be getting an appeal but the one person who isn't asked if they disagree with a decision is the referee which again is a failing."

Four St Mary's members were expelled from the GAA for their behaviour in the U21 game against Lamh Dearg in Ballymena after which Matthews was hospitalised.

Ten people in all received various bans. However, the Glenavy man believes more should have been suspended.

"A neutral witness said he couldn't see me from the amount of people trying to kick me."

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/matthews-keen-to-achieve-ref-justice-181787.html#ixzz1kkF1przA
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2012, 01:08:11 PM
 ::)   

Oh dear, Some one loves the limelight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 28, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Some would say he won you a Championship! Not me of course
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 28, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Some would say he won you a Championship! Not me of course

And some out of our club think he cost us a Final appearance!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
We were due a favour from a ref in a final max.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
Some might say that,  anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 29, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Did youse have any challenge matches this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on January 29, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2012, 01:08:11 PM
::)   

Oh dear, Some one loves the limelight.

think he was entitled to speak up, yes he lights the limelight as do many i.e. our own man and duffy but he feels passionately that justice wasn't served. 

Glenariffe in intermediate, i reckon there will be a few clubs eager to go to the junior now, but then again i see they have only won 1 game in about 6 years at championship.  Agree that regaining division 1 status has to be the priority.  great to see the gaa again on at the weekend and not long to go for the shamrocks game.  is it on tg4 the price of fuel is scandalous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 29, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
They should have stayed Senior. Dropping to Intermediate not only shows lack of ambition but also does away with the 'we're a senior club' mentality which is dangerous for youngsters coming through. Glenariffe have been making good strides and have been close enough often in the SHC. Disappointed to hear that and what? For a chance at glory in Croker? Sure they know now that they will cruise through the IHC and UIHC without much of a challenge. What is that really going to do for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
Winning the Antrim Intermediate championship is not a gimme for starters, I think they should have had another crack at senior we played senior for a few (while div 2) years and then entered (we got Loughgiel 3 years on the trot!!) Intermediate.

Middletown have made some ground lately and they are 6/5 to win the final, serious odds and after their display last week they are good for it. Mount Leinster are a decent side also so it should be a goodin. Might watch it, down for the Loughgiel game and head round to cheer them on.

How many will be playing senior this year then? Rossa, St Galls, St Johns, Lamhs, Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycastle, Dunloy.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 29, 2012, 10:37:32 PM
Craving the all Ireland glory journey or just lacking ambition?

A bit of both I think. Regardless the senior hurling championship suffers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2012, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2012, 10:37:32 PM
Craving the all Ireland glory journey or just lacking ambition?

A bit of both I think. Regardless the senior hurling championship suffers

It will suffer if there are only 8. Though we have 8 teams in Div 1 we only have 5 Antrim teams in it ............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 29, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 29, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Did youse have any challenge matches this weekend?

Reading on anfearrua that lg's sf opponents got another pasting this time against Waterford. A great opertunity awaits the shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
In the bag then  ;) 5/2 very generous  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 29, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 29, 2012, 10:17:01 PM
They should have stayed Senior. Dropping to Intermediate not only shows lack of ambition but also does away with the 'we're a senior club' mentality which is dangerous for youngsters coming through. Glenariffe have been making good strides and have been close enough often in the SHC. Disappointed to hear that and what? For a chance at glory in Croker? Sure they know now that they will cruise through the IHC and UIHC without much of a challenge. What is that really going to do for them?

When we won Antrim Intermediate & Ulster Intermediate in 2005 we won both finals by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 4father on January 30, 2012, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 29, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
When we won Antrim Intermediate & Ulster Intermediate in 2005 we won both finals by a point.

Firstly, you still won them and secondly, you are now a much better team than you were back in 2005.  You have basically been a Division 1 side for most of the in between years.  You will walk it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 30, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 30, 2012, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 29, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
When we won Antrim Intermediate & Ulster Intermediate in 2005 we won both finals by a point.

Firstly, you still won them and secondly, you are now a much better team than you were back in 2005.  You have basically been a Division 1 side for most of the in between years.  You will walk it.

And you've also got Stevie Fagan along the sidelines

The Down Co board have pulled out of the intermediate club hurling championship in Ulster and will only be entering a team into the Junior club championship as we've failed to compete at that level for a few years now.

Maybe we'll be pulling out of the senior shortly and regrading to intermediate as well!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
Good to see your vote of confidence in us MR2. ;)

We got beat by a full strength Wexford on Saturday by 9 points then were 8 points up on mount leinster on sunday when the ref blew up because of the weather. All in all both good run outs for the lads. Everyone's fit and up for it. No one in LG, especially the squad and mentors, are under any doubt about Na Piarsaigh being big favourites, and rightly so, but we believe we're in with a shout.

I think that's it for the warm up games. Plenty of training to come though. I can't wait to get down that road again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 30, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 30, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: 4father on January 30, 2012, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 29, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
When we won Antrim Intermediate & Ulster Intermediate in 2005 we won both finals by a point.

Firstly, you still won them and secondly, you are now a much better team than you were back in 2005.  You have basically been a Division 1 side for most of the in between years.  You will walk it.

And you've also got Stevie Fagan along the sidelines

The Down Co board have pulled out of the interTmediate club hurling championship in Ulster and will only be entering a team into the Junior club championship as we've failed to compete at that level for a few years now.

Maybe we'll be pulling out of the senior shortly and regrading to intermediate as well!!

New regime so not sure if Stevie will be involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 30, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
Good to see your vote of confidence in us MR2. ;)

We got beat by a full strength Wexford on Saturday by 9 points then were 8 points up on mount leinster on sunday when the ref blew up because of the weather. All in all both good run outs for the lads. Everyone's fit and up for it. No one in LG, especially the squad and mentors, are under any doubt about Na Piarsaigh being big favourites, and rightly so , but we believe we're in with a shout.

On the recent form of Na Piarsaigh, I don't think you really believe that SIE.

QuoteI think that's it for the warm up games. Plenty of training to come though. I can't wait to get down that road again.

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 30, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
Good to see your vote of confidence in us MR2. ;)

We got beat by a full strength Wexford on Saturday by 9 points then were 8 points up on mount leinster on sunday when the ref blew up because of the weather. All in all both good run outs for the lads. Everyone's fit and up for it. No one in LG, especially the squad and mentors, are under any doubt about Na Piarsaigh being big favourites, and rightly so , but we believe we're in with a shout.

On the recent form of Na Piarsaigh, I don't think you really believe that SIE.

QuoteI think that's it for the warm up games. Plenty of training to come though. I can't wait to get down that road again.

::)
A wee bit touchy there Skull.

Indeed we do believe it. As you should know, warm up games mean nothing at this stage. Na Piarsaigh have to be favourites simply because of the standard of teams they had to play to get to the semi.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 30, 2012, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
Good to see your vote of confidence in us MR2. ;)

We got beat by a full strength Wexford on Saturday by 9 points then were 8 points up on mount leinster on sunday when the ref blew up because of the weather. All in all both good run outs for the lads. Everyone's fit and up for it. No one in LG, especially the squad and mentors, are under any doubt about Na Piarsaigh being big favourites, and rightly so , but we believe we're in with a shout.

On the recent form of Na Piarsaigh, I don't think you really believe that SIE.

QuoteI think that's it for the warm up games. Plenty of training to come though. I can't wait to get down that road again.

::)
A wee bit touchy there Skull.

Indeed we do believe it. As you should know, warm up games mean nothing at this stage. Na Piarsaigh have to be favourites simply because of the standard of teams they had to play to get to the semi.

You having a dig at the Antrim teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Nice try MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Nice try MR2.

Someone will bite  :D

Hopefully you will win, Paddy's day on a Saturday also, so plenty down no doubt to watch yis.

What were Mount leinster like? I wouldn't mind a bet on the Middletown team though hard to gauge the game if it was played in poor conditions i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:47:04 PM
Conditions were so bad it's hard to gauge a true opinion on what srandard they're really at. I'd think it would be close enough, with MLR slight favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 30, 2012, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
A wee bit touchy there Skull.

Indeed we do believe it. As you should know, warm up games mean nothing at this stage. Na Piarsaigh have to be favourites simply because of the standard of teams they had to play to get to the semi.

Not at all touchy...just thought it was funny

What you've got from the warm up games will have a bearing on the day, otherwise no-one would play them. I think your being disengenuous by stating Na Piarsaigh are still big favourites. You know their recent scorelines better than most I'd say. All standard pre game patter so no harm......but don't think you really believe what you're typing...thats all

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 30, 2012, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 02:07:35 PM
A wee bit touchy there Skull.

Indeed we do believe it. As you should know, warm up games mean nothing at this stage. Na Piarsaigh have to be favourites simply because of the standard of teams they had to play to get to the semi.

Not at all touchy...just thought it was funny

What you've got from the warm up games will have a bearing on the day, otherwise no-one would play them. I think your being disengenuous by stating Na Piarsaigh are still big favourites. You know their recent scorelines better than most I'd say. All standard pre game patter so no harm......but don't think you really believe what you're typing...thats all

Never talk your team up Skull, thats a given, we all do it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 30, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
I did say that I thought we are in with a shout. They're certainly not unbeatable but, no matter what people think on here, Munster club hurling is of a  higher standard than ulster. The Munster champions will always be favourites against Ulster teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 31, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
Never much in these games really, especially in Parnell. Be interesting to see the level both teams can get too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
not sure Nag been at a few in parnell and the ulster team has suffered.  but do reckon this one will be tight as long as shams start well.  something they can't be accused off in county final.  a 10 minute purple patch simply will not do. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
not sure Nag been at a few in parnell and the ulster team has suffered.  but do reckon this one will be tight as long as shams start well.  something they can't be accused off in county final.  a 10 minute purple patch simply will not do.

Bar lasts years game they usually have been tight, Cushendall have had a draw one year, extra time another year, Dunloy I don't think played that many in Parnell so can't say off hand on their displays at Parnell. I'm sure we will get enough info on it soon enough ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on February 01, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
is the shams game live on tg4 does anybody know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2012, 06:24:42 AM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on February 01, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
is the shams game live on tg4 does anybody know?
I think they show both games, don't they? I seem to recall my mate texting me last year during our game saying that he'd just seen me on tv.   ::)  Then we were listening to the Clarinbridge semi on the way up home. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 02, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
not sure Nag been at a few in parnell and the ulster team has suffered.  but do reckon this one will be tight as long as shams start well.  something they can't be accused off in county final.  a 10 minute purple patch simply will not do.

Bar lasts years game they usually have been tight, Cushendall have had a draw one year, extra time another year, Dunloy I don't think played that many in Parnell so can't say off hand on their displays at Parnell. I'm sure we will get enough info on it soon enough ;)

No Antrim team has ever won a club semi in Parnell Pk. Dunloy won in Clones (x2), Croke Park and Mullingar, I think, vs Mt Sion. Ballycastle won in Croke Pk and Rossa won in Kilmallock. Loughgiel have never won a match in the All Ireland series outside of Antrim so they have a poor record to overcome in this semi!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
We have an unbeaten record in croker though. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 02, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on February 01, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
is the shams game live on tg4 does anybody know?

I think i saw somewhere that the other semi is the actual live game while the Loughgiel game is being shown in full immediately afterwards. Could be wrong though . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 02, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
Both Athenry and Portumna were never really threatened by us on the two outings we had in Parnell (the Athenry game in particular). Cushendall though have put in some good performances in Parnell and should have made it to two finals playing there. Of the sides that Antrim teams have played there (Athenry, Portumna, St Josephs DB,  DLS & O'Loughlin Gaels) I believe NP would be the weakest on paper anyway (and I suppose recent outings in challenge matches).

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
We have an unbeaten record in croker though. ;)

Well we've won in croker (just got the day wrong)   :'( :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 02, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
not sure Nag been at a few in parnell and the ulster team has suffered.  but do reckon this one will be tight as long as shams start well.  something they can't be accused off in county final.  a 10 minute purple patch simply will not do.

Bar lasts years game they usually have been tight, Cushendall have had a draw one year, extra time another year, Dunloy I don't think played that many in Parnell so can't say off hand on their displays at Parnell. I'm sure we will get enough info on it soon enough ;)

No Antrim team has ever won a club semi in Parnell Pk. Dunloy won in Clones (x2), Croke Park and Mullingar, I think, vs Mt Sion. Ballycastle won in Croke Pk and Rossa won in Kilmallock. Loughgiel have never won a match in the All Ireland series outside of Antrim so they have a poor record to overcome in this semi!  ;)

Ok it wasn't senior but we managed to win the Intermediate semi final there ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2012, 02:30:21 PM
Hows the fund raising going for LG then in preparation for their big day then and the season ahead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2012, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2012, 02:30:21 PM
Hows the fund raising going for LG then in preparation for their big day then and the season ahead?
???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 03, 2012, 01:41:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2012, 09:29:41 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 02, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 01, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
not sure Nag been at a few in parnell and the ulster team has suffered.  but do reckon this one will be tight as long as shams start well.  something they can't be accused off in county final.  a 10 minute purple patch simply will not do.

Bar lasts years game they usually have been tight, Cushendall have had a draw one year, extra time another year, Dunloy I don't think played that many in Parnell so can't say off hand on their displays at Parnell. I'm sure we will get enough info on it soon enough ;)

No Antrim team has ever won a club semi in Parnell Pk. Dunloy won in Clones (x2), Croke Park and Mullingar, I think, vs Mt Sion. Ballycastle won in Croke Pk and Rossa won in Kilmallock. Loughgiel have never won a match in the All Ireland series outside of Antrim so they have a poor record to overcome in this semi!  ;)

Ok it wasn't senior but we managed to win the Intermediate semi final there ;)

I knew you would fall for the deliberate error MR2!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 03, 2012, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 02, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
Both Athenry and Portumna were never really threatened by us on the two outings we had in Parnell (the Athenry game in particular). Cushendall though have put in some good performances in Parnell and should have made it to two finals playing there. Of the sides that Antrim teams have played there (Athenry, Portumna, St Josephs DB,  DLS & O'Loughlin Gaels) I believe NP would be the weakest on paper anyway (and I suppose recent outings in challenge matches).

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
We have an unbeaten record in croker though. ;)

Well we've won in croker (just got the day wrong)   :'( :)

So reading between the lines Skull is backing his neighbours to win next week....well who thought they would see the day that would happen  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 03, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
My god, forgot about that, the AI semi-finals were played at the home venue of one of the clubs back in the day.

Remember watching a very young Birr team beat Cushendall up in Cushendall, great game on a shitty wet day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 03, 2012, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 03, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
My god, forgot about that, the AI semi-finals were played at the home venue of one of the clubs back in the day.

Remember watching a very young Birr team beat Cushendall up in Cushendall, great game on a shitty wet day.

I remember them playing someone in Cushendall in 1992, thought that was Birr but it wasn't a bad day, mind you the memory can play tricks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2012, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 03, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
My god, forgot about that, the AI semi-finals were played at the home venue of one of the clubs back in the day.

Remember watching a very young Birr team beat Cushendall up in Cushendall, great game on a shitty wet day.

I remember them playing someone in Cushendall in 1992, thought that was Birr but it wasn't a bad day, mind you the memory can play tricks.

Good day if you were from Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 03, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2012, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 03, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
My god, forgot about that, the AI semi-finals were played at the home venue of one of the clubs back in the day.

Remember watching a very young Birr team beat Cushendall up in Cushendall, great game on a shitty wet day.

I remember them playing someone in Cushendall in 1992, thought that was Birr but it wasn't a bad day, mind you the memory can play tricks.

Good day if you were from Glenariffe

Outrageous accusation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2012, 03:14:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 03, 2012, 01:52:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 03, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
My god, forgot about that, the AI semi-finals were played at the home venue of one of the clubs back in the day.

Remember watching a very young Birr team beat Cushendall up in Cushendall, great game on a shitty wet day.

I remember them playing someone in Cushendall in 1992, thought that was Birr but it wasn't a bad day, mind you the memory can play tricks.

Good day if you were from Glenariffe

Outrageous accusation.
Rare as it may seem there is photographic evidence of at least one prominent Oisin supporting the Ruairi's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 03, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
cushendall got beat by middleton of cork i think in 80's, reckon john fenton was playing.  tony u seem to be setting someone up for a fall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 04, 2012, 08:03:44 AM
We were beat away to Mount Sion in 1982 and by Buffers Alley at home in 1986 as well, Middletown was in 1988. It was a dry day against Birr in 1992 but it had been raining for a week before and left the pitch in a poor state. Home and away all ireland semi's were great occasions and I'd love to see them back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 04, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 04, 2012, 08:03:44 AM
We were beat away to Mount Sion in 1982 and by Buffers Alley at home in 1986 as well, Middletown was in 1988. It was a dry day against Birr in 1992 but it had been raining for a week before and left the pitch in a poor state. Home and away all ireland semi's were great occasions and I'd love to see them back.

understand where u are coming from, but a neutral venue is fairest all round.  it would be a bitch if you were in semi and had to go and play in some shity pitch in the south.  plus the neutral supporters and venue needs good viewing.  was at tipp v antrim in the dall and it was a terrible day but difficult to see full pitch if there is a big crowd due to limited vantage points.  maybe if it was to be played in county ground but think current status quo is best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 04, 2012, 03:11:52 PM
Definitely prefer the old home and away, lets the whole club get involved in the event, a great chance to showcase the whole club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
I think the way it's played now is the fairest way. Although I think Parnell is a terrible venue to hold anything. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 04, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
I think the way it's played now is the fairest way. Although I think Parnell is a terrible venue to hold anything.

reckon that is because of the poor record of ulster teams there SIE.  for travelling down its as handy as it gets and the pitch has improved.  for the munster teams its certainly the midway.  good thing for the shams is they have all probably played on it before, even before last years semi.  i take it the feet are up this weekend.  are u for casement to support the ladies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:31:41 PM
Its handy but the pitch is still a mire. Well, it was last year. For a county ground, especially Dublin's county ground, I think it's poor enough. I'll be up tomorrow alright.

The Gaelic Life is a good read this week. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2012, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
I think the way it's played now is the fairest way. Although I think Parnell is a terrible venue to hold anything.
Quote from: saffronog on February 04, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:08:06 PM
I think the way it's played now is the fairest way. Although I think Parnell is a terrible venue to hold anything.

reckon that is because of the poor record of ulster teams there SIE.  for travelling down its as handy as it gets and the pitch has improved.  for the munster teams its certainly the midway.  good thing for the shams is they have all probably played on it before, even before last years semi.  i take it the feet are up this weekend.  are u for casement to support the ladies

I think it's a great venue  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 06, 2012, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 04, 2012, 06:31:41 PM
Its handy but the pitch is still a mire. Well, it was last year. For a county ground, especially Dublin's county ground, I think it's poor enough. I'll be up tomorrow alright.

The Gaelic Life is a good read this week. ;)

I see the girls got cream crackered.  Your boys will make a better go of it this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2012, 11:21:37 AM
To be fair to the girls, they were totally outplayed by a vastly superior team. That Oulart-the-ballagh camogie team would do well in our junior hurling championship. ;)

The match on Saturday will be closer but Na Piarsaigh will still start as big favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on February 06, 2012, 11:51:17 AM
Clearly sexest SIE?
Ive watched the antrim junior championship many a time, think your
doing those girls a disservice!!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
What's the back up plan then SIE for the injuries or is it top secret?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2012, 12:00:01 PM
Injuries?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 06, 2012, 04:45:55 PM
Whilst there were a few players carrying niggling injuries Loughgiel will have a full panel to pick from for Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
What time is this match at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2012, 06:15:11 PM
Played another warm up game against Middletown down in the Athletic grounds, Armagh last Tuesday evening. Everyone got a half.

The match is at 2.00 Minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 06, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
The debate about venues us void really. GAA has spent money on county grounds and will want to recoup this. Also, tv and health & safety & car-parking dictate - the "home" notion is a nice sentiment but only that.

I think the weather will play a major factor this week but I will have my loughiel head on - and fancy them to win.

I trust SIE you will share team news with us!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
I don't think I'll be privy to that info before anyone else. If I hear anything out of the ordinary I'll let you know, if it's ok do to so of course. ;) 

*edit

Just heard that the team will be named on Friday. There are no injuries so there won't be many surprises, if any.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2012, 02:44:28 PM
Well then, what's the weather like for the weekend? Full strength LG team should be fit to give this a good rattle, my concern is scoring power as I have said before takes a decent score to win these semi finals usually.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.

Two good hurlers no doubt but stopping them running at Loughgiels defence will be their main priority if they do that then I believe they will have a chance. At 5/2 I think its a good price not to take
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.

Two good hurlers no doubt but stopping them running at Loughgiels defence will be their main priority if they do that then I believe they will have a chance. At 5/2 I think its a good price not to take

wont stop downes running at you unless your driving a red and white tank, the key will cuttin off the supply
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.

Two good hurlers no doubt but stopping them running at Loughgiels defence will be their main priority if they do that then I believe they will have a chance. At 5/2 I think its a good price not to take

wont stop downes running at you unless your driving a red and white tank, the key will cuttin off the supply

Parnells is a small enough pitch, a good puck from full back will find the forward line. The lad is big enough to win his own ball, high or low so Loughgiel will have to defend from full forward then ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.

Two good hurlers no doubt but stopping them running at Loughgiels defence will be their main priority if they do that then I believe they will have a chance. At 5/2 I think its a good price not to take

wont stop downes running at you unless your driving a red and white tank, the key will cuttin off the supply
Thanks NAH.

It'll take a lot of things working right to win this one. All we can hope for at this stage is that it all goes to plan. I was looking at the weather forecast for Dublin there, it's going to be drizzly by the look of it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:48:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
For S.I.E and the rest of the bodies

Good luck for the weekend,think you have a real chance of an upset. your half forwards and midfield have to stop good ball going in to that ff line (downes,dowling)  and your half way there.

Two good hurlers no doubt but stopping them running at Loughgiels defence will be their main priority if they do that then I believe they will have a chance. At 5/2 I think its a good price not to take

wont stop downes running at you unless your driving a red and white tank, the key will cuttin off the supply
Thanks NAH.

It'll take a lot of things working right to win this one. All we can hope for at this stage is that it all goes to plan. I was looking at the weather forecast for Dublin there, it's going to be drizzly by the look of it.

Be thankfull it's not snowing? It's the start of February FFS. Be down and I hope yas win job done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
I'll be out of the country, can you watch GAA Beo online, does anybody know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
Not even up here can you watch it! Well at least any time I have tried to watch it online it hasnt allowed me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2012, 09:23:13 AM
There's a way of doing it using an Ip  masking site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
I'll take the laptop and hopefully it works when you are outside the country.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
I'll take the laptop and hopefully it works when you are outside the country.

I'll be down, keep ya updated big man, Oh thought I would have seen you on Friday night!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
There might well be a stream up of the coverage online.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 08, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
Is it on TG4 ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
I'll take the laptop and hopefully it works when you are outside the country.

I'll be down, keep ya updated big man, Oh thought I would have seen you on Friday night!!
Aye, was supposed to go lad but was too knackered to get in the mood to head out. Preseason drink ban in force anyway ;D. Saved me making an arse of myself as I usually do down there :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 08, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
I'll take the laptop and hopefully it works when you are outside the country.

I'll be down, keep ya updated big man, Oh thought I would have seen you on Friday night!!
Aye, was supposed to go lad but was too knackered to get in the mood to head out. Preseason drink ban in force anyway ;D. Saved me making an arse of myself as I usually do down there :D

Was a good night! Pre-season for the over forties  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2012, 06:24:29 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 08, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
Is it on TG4 ?
Yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 09:45:45 AM
I notice on our county website a post (supported by our dear moderator) affirming that Oisins will NOT be playing intermediate this year - staying in senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 09:45:45 AM
I notice on our county website a post (supported by our dear moderator) affirming that Oisins will NOT be playing intermediate this year - staying in senior.

I spoke to one of the players last night and nobody seems to know, the manager wants to go into Intermediate and other elements in the club want to stay in Senior championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2012, 10:44:41 AM
Staying senior will be better Minder, yous are a cut above Intermediate and if ya's got a handy draw in the Championship then it would give yous a semi final place nd a chance to reach the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on February 09, 2012, 11:17:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2012, 06:24:29 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 08, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
Is it on TG4 ?
Yes.
Deferred, though. They're showing the Gort-Coolderry semi live
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2012, 02:13:25 PM
Decision on Oisin entering IHC/SHC will already have been made - entries were supposed to be in a couple of weeks ago - so whether there's talk or not someone has already entered them into a championship of some sort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
Given the response by the county moderator I think it is safe to assume that Oisins will be in the senior championship.

And on that - still no fixtures form this season? County said themselves they would be out in late January.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 09, 2012, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
Given the response by the county moderator I think it is safe to assume that Oisins will be in the senior championship.

And on that - still no fixtures form this season? County said themselves they would be out in late January.

seem to know your stuff, are you or have you been involved in adminstative levels in the past ?  even still
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2012, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
Given the response by the county moderator I think it is safe to assume that Oisins will be in the senior championship.

And on that - still no fixtures form this season? County said themselves they would be out in late January.

Regardless of what the county moderator has said I believe (going by what the players and management have said) we will be in the IHC. As they never tire of saying, clubs can enter whatever championship they want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 09, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
I don't think I'll be privy to that info before anyone else. If I hear anything out of the ordinary I'll let you know, if it's ok do to so of course. ;) 

*edit

Just heard that the team will be named on Friday. There are no injuries so there won't be many surprises, if any.

with heavy heart and through gritted teeth and only because you really do have more decent supporters thn 4rseholes  ;)

good luck to the fcukin shams   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
No saffron og I have nothing concrete to go on - just think that the moderator is normally dismissive of every point made.

Except this time he gave the post credence by his own admission - so I believe the moderator has the inside knowledge. Maybe we will both be wrong!

Altho sounds like oisins boys don't even know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
Aye I'm sure the lads are well up for the game and should they win, get the chance to play in Croke Park. It's a clubs/committee's/supporters and of course the players dream to represent their Parish in an All Ireland senior final, the pinnacle of a club player in my view.

While Loughgiel have won it before, (never shy in telling you ;)) It's more than a generation ago!! living up to past glories is sure to play on theirs and managements minds so I hope they just concentrate on their game, as they will definitely have to play their best and hope they don't have their best game. Those handling errors and mistakes (nerves i thought) hopefully won't be there on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 09, 2012, 11:20:18 PM
hopefully not MR2,   teams named and no major changes,   few lads very unfortunate not to making starting team, tho,IMO very good to come on.   cant wait to game, hope the lads do themselves Antrim and Ulster proud!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 09, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Go on then. Tell us team. Anything i've read about opposition they keep saying they haven't even seen LG play at all. In this day and age I find this very hard to believe.
Looking forward to the game.

Has been said before and will be said again. Watson is a serious player but doesn't do himself any favours - Irish News today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2012, 11:41:23 PM
 ::)

You don't think there'll be any posting of the team before its announced publicly do you? ;)

Like SG said, a few of the lads will be disappointed, but will get their chance at some stage no doubt.

Can't wait for it now myself. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2012, 11:42:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 09, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Go on then. Tell us team. Anything i've read about opposition they keep saying they haven't even seen LG play at all. In this day and age I find this very hard to believe.
Looking forward to the game.

Has been said before and will be said again. Watson is a serious player but doesn't do himself any favours - Irish News today.
Didnt get the IN today. What's the story?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 09, 2012, 11:55:22 PM
not gonna put team on this on a thurs night,  no shocks anyway, you could prob name it, :D   on irish news end of things,  he has said what everyone else already knows. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2012, 11:15:09 AM
Rossa house closed today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 10, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2012, 11:15:09 AM
Rossa house closed today?

Seriously?  Had a few crazy nights in their in my time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 10, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
its been closed all week, Think it has been bought over by the old folks home next door...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2012, 05:29:32 PM
Great to see we're getting backing from Dunloy.   :D


(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/396980_3254920937839_1411541081_33228923_251952514_n.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2012, 07:14:01 PM
Rossa voted to move their social club to be on same site as their hurling pitch. Not sure when the final switch is actually happening. Enjoyed many nights there myself will be interesting to see development!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on February 11, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2012, 05:29:32 PM
Great to see we're getting backing from Dunloy.   :D


(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/396980_3254920937839_1411541081_33228923_251952514_n.jpg)

LOL. Good luck to the Shams today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Good luck to Loughgiel. Have a wee feeling they might win.

(I have had that before with antrim teams and been very disappointed mind but hopefully not this time!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
Just landed. Knots in stomach time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Shams would need a big improvement from what they showed for the majority of the Antrim final, but have a feeling they won't be too far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
i agree with u minder, we have yet to see the shams play well for more than 30 mins.  who knows this could be the day.  i think it could very well be a loughgiele coolderry defeat.  gort and na piarsaigh for st paddys day.  but here is hoping for the gort and the shams to make it a great st paddys day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
The pitch is a mire, again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
20 mins gone. LG 9-5 up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
20 mins gone. LG 9-5 up.

Watson down injured, doesn't sound good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
Hit off the ball. Typical, no one seen it of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
Hit off the ball. Typical, no one seen it of course.

None of the media have seen it, as per Mark Sidebottom

Back up again, thankfully
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
0-11 0-05 to the shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
Watson just put a free over from the 60 on na piarsaigh side of the field.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
goal for na piarsaigh 0-11 to 1-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
goal for na piarsaigh 0-11 to 1-5

Any more updates? How long is left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:52:28 PM
0-12 to 1-05. 2nd half just started.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 02:52:28 PM
0-12 to 1-05. 2nd half just started.

Good luck to you... hope it ends well!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
0-13 to 1-6

Watson had good goal chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
0-16 to 1-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:09:54 PM
0-17 to 1-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
0-17 to 1-10

5 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
DD Quinn heroics again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:16:38 PM
3 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 03:17:01 PM
i am at the far side here, stay calm sie, i reckon they have it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 03:17:44 PM
shit this is nervy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 03:17:58 PM
Coolderry won by 8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:18:40 PM
Goal chance missed by na piarsaigh, hanging on the shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
4 in it, added time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:22:08 PM
Watson's 11th point, 5 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 03:22:19 PM
Go on Shamrocks!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:23:08 PM
goal na piarsaigh, 2 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:24:33 PM
level, sidebottom mixed the scores up

extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 11, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
wha'??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:26:03 PM
God knows what has happened!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 11, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:26:03 PM
God knows what has happened!!

FT 0-18 to 2-12
Extra Time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
Sidebottom thought Watson had scored, turned out he hadn't

Na Piarsaigh must be favs now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 11, 2012, 03:28:18 PM
Like Cushendall La Salle it's deja vu all over again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
I'm still fancying us to pull through. Soft enough goal. Two silly frees at the start of the half came back to haunt us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
I'm still fancying us to pull through. Soft enough goal. Two silly frees at the start of the half came back to haunt us.

Hope so, but they must have the momentum
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 03:31:10 PM
Extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
unreal finish, shams not out of it yet, but that was a hell of a slap in the face there now.  the dall never recovered, can the shams go one better ??? well worth the admission fee, serious excitement.  Wonder if SIE heart ok over there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2012, 03:35:01 PM
Terrible unreal cant get a pint!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
I'm hanging in there. Just! About to start again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
0-20 to 2-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
Red card foul on skinner?  Should have been. 0-21 to 2-13.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
2 up at half time. I'm officially going to get blocked tonight no matter what the score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
Seems like a massive effort from The Shamrocks. I definitely thought that the momentum would have been with Na Piarsaigh after the way the 60 minutes finished. I hope they can finish this off!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2012, 03:50:16 PM
Not red it wasn't!! Hard ten minutes to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 03:50:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
2 up at half time. I'm officially going to get blocked tonight no matter what the score.

You will deserve it!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
Watson free, 3 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
Watson free, 4 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
4 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
0-24 2-13, watson again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
Watson again, 6 in it, surely that's it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 03:59:37 PM
Maybe we can drop the bottlers tag now. Come on the Shamrocks. 7 in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
Some performance by the shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
great effort from the shams, good advertisement for northern hurling, but just keep it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
na piarsaigh down to 14 men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
8 in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 04:02:38 PM
0-27 to 2-13 fs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 11, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
All over, Loughgiel do it, well done!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
Brilliant!

SUFTUM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
Well done to Loughgiel... a well deserved win!! It would have been easy to drop the heads after Na Piasaigh came back so well done!! Another Offaly team in the final!! I hope they do the business in the final!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 04:04:54 PM
saw the dunloy team in their prime beat glenmore in croke park in a semi display which was super, that was every bit as good today.  Shams won that game twice excellent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 11, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
Brilliant result for the Shamrocks!!  Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on February 11, 2012, 04:09:41 PM
Fair play to the melters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on February 11, 2012, 04:11:11 PM
Fantastic result, really hope they can go all the way. Good luck in the final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 11, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
Congrats to SIE and his shamrocks team. Hope they go the next step too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 04:27:34 PM
Well done to the Shamrocks, great to see and a great effort in extra time. 50/50 game in the final i would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 11, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
dd put in fantastic performance, highlights again how cute sambo and woody were in despatching another older hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
Interesting that Nelson and not PJ was giving the team talk at half time in extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2012, 05:18:15 PM
Well done to LG. Bottlers tag well and truely dropped after today. Fitness levels, intensity thoughout and composure for most of the game. DD was unreal and thats what you need to make AIF's. Scoring average well up as well. NP werent the team that many people thought they were. Some of them looked to have average enough stickwork.


Did you get a pay out MR or was it on the full time score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 11, 2012, 05:18:15 PM
Well done to LG. Bottlers tag well and truely dropped after today. Fitness levels, intensity thoughout and composure for most of the game. DD was unreal and thats what you need to make AIF's. Scoring average well up as well. NP werent the team that many people thought they were. Some of them looked to have average enough stickwork.


Did you get a pay out MR or was it on the full time score?

Bets are 60 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Aerlik on February 11, 2012, 06:07:55 PM
Great stuff from the shams.  Sum hann'lin.  Keep'er lit for the final.  I was shouting for yiz in '83 and will be roaring for yiz in the final.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 11, 2012, 08:27:23 PM
Fair play to the shams, see yous all on the 17th March!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 11, 2012, 08:35:07 PM
MASSIVE performance MASSIVE result well done shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

Saw a good bit of it, they were very impressive. Has the makings of a very good final. Slightly favour Loughgiel if they don't lose the run of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 11, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
They have improved big time since the Antrim and Ulster finals.Their marking and blocking has improved 100%.They never let N.Par. get into their stride,and at the end were by far the fitter and easily  the better team. on today's performance they can add a second All-Ireland to their roll of honour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 11, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
Fantastic result and no need for any inferiority complex in the final. Well done to all the management and players and particularly great to see Jim Nelson still producing the goods. And what is there left to say about Watson?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2012, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

Saw a good bit of it, they were very impressive. Has the makings of a very good final. Slightly favour Loughgiel if they don't lose the run of themselves.
No chance of that Minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2012, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 11, 2012, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

Saw a good bit of it, they were very impressive. Has the makings of a very good final. Slightly favour Loughgiel if they don't lose the run of themselves.
No chance of that Minder.

Nobody knows that for certain, not even the players, they could freeze on the day, so could Coolderry. There will be no escape from the hype for the Loughgiel players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2012, 10:22:02 PM
Ok before I head out (staying in harcourt) well done shams, my bet was tenner double on shams scoring more than 15 and coolderry scoring more than 17. Job done. Loughgiel should have won game before extra time and thats my only worry come final.

Thon team were shite and as someone said average stick hurling team. Loughgiel were on to every break ball, brilliant and well deserved. Should gee up the other hurling clubs as they on their day just as good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

yes S.I.E i watched both matches and there going to be a step up from today, have good reliable freetaker and all there forwards scored from play. the guy Murray is a class act and they have a very solid defence. they where playing on a bigger pitch than Parnell but closed men down allot quicker than NaP did(just more intensity). when the game opened up in the last 15 minutes they used the space better than gort. But having said all that the best player on display today was Watson, i feel overall they have a better spread of talent but if winker can turn it on again and the rest step up a gear they could be beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 11:59:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

yes S.I.E i watched both matches and there going to be a step up from today, have good reliable freetaker and all there forwards scored from play. the guy Murray is a class act and they have a very solid defence. they where playing on a bigger pitch than Parnell but closed men down allot quicker than NaP did(just more intensity). when the game opened up in the last 15 minutes they used the space better than gort. But having said all that the best player on display today was Watson, i feel overall they have a better spread of talent but if winker can turn it on again and the rest step up a gear they could be beat.
Thanks NAH. I thought they'd be the best team in it. Oulaghrt the ballagh are a class act, any team that beats them are worth watching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 11:59:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2012, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Did anyone watch the Coolderry match?

yes S.I.E i watched both matches and there going to be a step up from today, have good reliable freetaker and all there forwards scored from play. the guy Murray is a class act and they have a very solid defence. they where playing on a bigger pitch than Parnell but closed men down allot quicker than NaP did(just more intensity). when the game opened up in the last 15 minutes they used the space better than gort. But having said all that the best player on display today was Watson, i feel overall they have a better spread of talent but if winker can turn it on again and the rest step up a gear they could be beat.
Thanks NAH. I thought they'd be the best team in it. Oulaghrt the ballagh are a class act, any team that beats them are worth watching.
It doesnt take a genius that the boul' Liam will come in for some extra special attention on St Patricks day. If he can stay on the pitch for the full match then they can do this thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 12:11:34 AM
He's been good as gold for us the last couple of years, no matter what treatment he gets. This is the first he's been injury free for a couple of years too.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 12:11:34 AM
He's been good as gold for us the last couple of years, no matter what treatment he gets. This is the first he's been injury free for a couple of years too.   
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Jeez Seamroga, you're a bit testy over there on anfearrua, no????

Congrats to the Shamrocks - some performance! Confess that I feared the worst when it went to extra time, but extra time display was phenomenal! Best of luck for Paddy's Day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:10:23 AM
Time they were told a few truths don't ya think?

I'm just tired of them putting down Ulster hurling. Also the blatant anti northern refereeing.   We all know it goes on and no one does f**k all about it.

f**k that,  :). anyone heading down on Paddy's day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:15:47 AM
You serious? Today? Referee was very pedantic e.g. the quick puck out (which he penalised both sides for). The Laverty tackle? Looked very bad live. Saw it later on tg4. Think a yellow was right. A few soft frees to NaP, a few soft enough frees to Loughgiel. Seriously. Time to reign in the paranoia. Especially when you win. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2012, 01:16:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:10:23 AM
Time they were told a few truths don't ya think?

I'm just tired of them putting down Ulster hurling. Also the blatant anti northern refereeing.   We all know it goes on and no one does f**k all about it.

f**k that, anyone heading down on Paddy's day?
Aye, will be down offering my support. Would support any local team in the same situa ;Dtion. Not the Dall, obviously  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:15:47 AM
You serious? Today? Referee was very pedantic e.g. the quick puck out (which he penalised both sides for). The Laverty tackle? Looked very bad live. Saw it later on tg4. Think a yellow was right. A few soft frees to NaP, a few soft enough frees to Loughgiel. Seriously. Time to reign in the paranoia. Especially when you win. No?
FFs cloot, paranoia? You're as bad as lot down there. Look, I just read that thread and spouted off. I'm entitled to to do that in defense of hurling up here, win, lose or draw. And if you'd anything to say about it, it should have been done on that thread, on that board. Or at least a pm. Alright?

Jesus H christ, I've had it in the ear from the gf already,  now on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:37:01 AM
  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:38:00 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:37:01 AM
  :)
Are ye heading down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:42:01 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2012, 01:16:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:10:23 AM
Time they were told a few truths don't ya think?

I'm just tired of them putting down Ulster hurling. Also the blatant anti northern refereeing.   We all know it goes on and no one does f**k all about it.

f**k that, anyone heading down on Paddy's day?
Aye, will be down offering my support. Would support any local team in the same situa ;Dtion. Not the Dall, obviously  ;D
Well yeah, obviously.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 12, 2012, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 12, 2012, 01:15:47 AM
You serious? Today? Referee was very pedantic e.g. the quick puck out (which he penalised both sides for). The Laverty tackle? Looked very bad live. Saw it later on tg4. Think a yellow was right. A few soft frees to NaP, a few soft enough frees to Loughgiel. Seriously. Time to reign in the paranoia. Especially when you win. No?
FFs cloot, paranoia? You're as bad as lot down there. Look, I just read that thread and spouted off. I'm entitled to to do that in defense of hurling up here, win, lose or draw. And if you'd anything to say about it, it should have been done on that thread, on that board. Or at least a pm. Alright?

Jesus H christ, I've had it in the ear from the gf already,  now on here.

Dont be coming on here spouting nonsense defending the honour of Antrim and Ulster hurling. There wasnt much wrong with the ref given the poor under foot conditions. He blew BOTH teams up for quick puck outs, he blew BOTH teams for overcarrying. Im sure you werent complaining about him when he gave Liam Watson a free in when he cheated to get the free; watch it on tv and you will see it. Your team won, now move on and stop giving other counties reasons to put down "Ulster hurling" as you say,  with your goading, WHEN YOU WON.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I'm getting the distinct impression you aren't enamoured with me. Every time you've posted has been against me or LG. You're opinion, therefore, becomes irrelevant. Yes, we won. That is not the issue, if we were stuffed I'd have been saying the same thing. Maybe we should all be lambs like you and accept the status quo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2012, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I'm getting the distinct impression you aren't enamoured with me. Every time you've posted has been against me or LG. You're opinion, therefore, becomes irrelevant. Yes, we won. That is not the issue, if we were stuffed I'd have been saying the same thing. Maybe we should all be lambs like you and accept the status quo.

Chill SIE and enjoy, cracking game and only one team in it. You'd prefer to have met them in the final that's for sure. Hard game to come but why not, Taped it so my watch it again later. Always the usual punters from the clubs down watching. Their support was crap in fairness.

Had to laugh, went for a pint at half time and the Dub official wouldn't let us out of the ground!! He said there's too much trouble and it's the drink that's doing it :D :D  I said ya should have shut the bar before the game ya balloon, the fecker was for getting the guards for me. Those Kerry ones have stopped half time pinting!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 12, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
Fairhead....the same old story,when an Antrim team do well get all the "aye buts" out from the other teams. "aye they played well,but the grass was cut in the wrong direction, aye but Watson cheated, aye but thon wusny that great a team".They can't come and say well done without adding an " AYE BUT"
Learn to control your jealously,we'll support you next time you get to an All- Ireland final like we did the last time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 12, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 12, 2012, 04:32:42 PM
Fairhead....the same old story,when an Antrim team do well get all the "aye buts" out from the other teams. "aye they played well,but the grass was cut in the wrong direction, aye but Watson cheated, aye but thon wusny that great a team".They can't come and say well done without adding an " AYE BUT"

not quite Buswhacker

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MASSIVE performance MASSIVE result well done shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 12, 2012, 05:13:02 PM
Some of our LG brethern must be blind. I haven't read a post yet that hasn't praised LG for the shift they put in yesterday. Someone pops up to bring a bit of balance to comments made about the refereeing and they're on him like a ton of bricks.

Same old story indeed. Chill out and enjoy what youse done at the weekend would be my advice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 12, 2012, 05:18:04 PM
"Aye but".............the skull1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 12, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I'm getting the distinct impression you aren't enamoured with me. Every time you've posted has been against me or LG. You're opinion, therefore, becomes irrelevant. Yes, we won. That is not the issue, if we were stuffed I'd have been saying the same thing. Maybe we should all be lambs like you and accept the status quo.

SIE what are you talking about? Did you read what i said in the context of what i was responding to? If not i will ask you a straightforward question; can you give me specific examples of "blatant anti-northern refereeing" by Anthony Stapleton in yesterdays game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2012, 07:07:19 PM
Leaving the ground yesterday we all mentioned that the referee was grand!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 12, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I'm getting the distinct impression you aren't enamoured with me. Every time you've posted has been against me or LG. You're opinion, therefore, becomes irrelevant. Yes, we won. That is not the issue, if we were stuffed I'd have been saying the same thing. Maybe we should all be lambs like you and accept the status quot.

SIE what are you talking about? Did you read what i said in the context of what i was responding to? If not i will ask you a straightforward question; can you give me specific examples of "blatant anti-northern refereeing" by Anthony Stapleton in yesterdays game?
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actually that's the first time i have seen stapleton not shafting an antrim team. when we played offaly two years ago in Parnell we where leading by a point and he played well on after injury time was over and awarded Shane Dooley a very dubious free for them to level. we lost in extra time ill never forgive him for that or when he was in charge the same year antrim v carlow in casement the bias that night was blatant against antrim. but i thought he had a good game yesterday for a change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 13, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
In general he was ok. I just thought he went missing on the big calls.

I can't wait for St Patricks day now. Going down on the Friday. Watch a bit of the parade and a few jars after the match. If they show the spirit like they did in extra time they're in with a  good shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 13, 2012, 09:15:46 AM
Well done to the shams, great victory especially when Na Piarsaigh got themselves level on the (first) final whistle and seemed to have momentum going into extra time. LG came out of the traps quickly and had the run on Na Piarsaigh, who seemed to be visibly tiring more.

Thought Na Piarsaigh played a bit into loughgeils hands by playing a two man fullforward line, giving LG the platform to attack from and it wasn't the aimless balls from the previous year, they gave the balls out wide into space or straight into the hands of the quicker forwards to get onto and possibly should have done more with.
Over the first 60 minutes LG were the better team and it would have been a travesty if they'd lost. Winker had a good day out, no doubt, as its the ease of how he controls the ball, finds space and takes his score which make him hard to handle.

I was also impressed by Coolderry as like all Offaly teams and Birr in particular they use the ball very well and their passing from the hurl was exceptional (something Loughgeil were also good at). They've a better allround team than Na Piarsaigh. Big Joe Brady was immense but you'd hope loughgeil don't drop too many balls on top of him and make him run as he doesn't look the fittest and a dry sod in Croke Park should help in this regard. Coolderry will go for goal and have more scoring options. I think Loughgeil may need to try and work a few goal scoring opportunities themselves to win it, but they've got every chance and as long as they settle quickly and don't go out killing dead things they've a very good chance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 13, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
In general he was ok. I just thought he went missing on the big calls.

I can't wait for St Patricks day now. Going down on the Friday. Watch a bit of the parade and a few jars after the match. If they show the spirit like they did in extra time they're in with a  good shout.

But Coolderry will start as BIG favourites  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 13, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
In general he was ok. I just thought he went missing on the big calls.

I can't wait for St Patricks day now. Going down on the Friday. Watch a bit of the parade and a few jars after the match. If they show the spirit like they did in extra time they're in with a  good shout.

But Coolderry will start as BIG favourites  ;)

Ladbrokes

Coolderry 1/2

Shamrocks 15/8

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 13, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
Not bad odds. A mate of mine (Dunloy supporter) had a grand on Lg at 11/10 3 points up. He was visited yesterday. ;)

You're right skull. They're big favourites, and rightly so. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 13, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
Shamrocks........15/8. I'm having some of that.From what I saw at the weekend,Loughgiel shouldn't be unduly worried about Coolderry.Watching them on TV,some of their players looked ,quite frankly,unfit. Given the hype about the great Munster champions N.Par.and the subsequent result anything can happen. I don't think Cooldeery will be counting their chickens. Of course neither should we.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 13, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
I was a proud man on Saturday.

What a performance by some group of players.  Showed character to come back from letting in a soft goal at the death.  Everyone played their part, was great to see.

Coolderry and Loughgiel played each other about 5/6 years ago in a friendly, was one of the best hurling matches I have seen.  Whilst personnel on both teams will have changed a good bit since then. these lads know they won't be far away on Paddys Day.

Fantastic support also on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 13, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 13, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
Shamrocks........15/8. I'm having some of that.From what I saw at the weekend,Loughgiel shouldn't be unduly worried about Coolderry.Watching them on TV,some of their players looked ,quite frankly,unfit. Given the hype about the great Munster champions N.Par.and the subsequent result anything can happen. I don't think Cooldeery will be counting their chickens. Of course neither should we.

Paddy Power:

Coolderry 2/5 Loughgiel 9/4 Draw 10/1

9/4 is a BIG price for a team that have just handed the Munster chamipons their collective arse on a plate.  Well worth a few quid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 13, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
Shamrocks........15/8. I'm having some of that.From what I saw at the weekend,Loughgiel shouldn't be unduly worried about Coolderry.Watching them on TV,some of their players looked ,quite frankly,unfit. Given the hype about the great Munster champions N.Par.and the subsequent result anything can happen. I don't think Cooldeery will be counting their chickens. Of course neither should we.

I dont think anyone genuinely believed that they were a great side, everyone who knows anything about these games knew LG had a great chance of turning them over and did so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on February 13, 2012, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 13, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
Shamrocks........15/8. I'm having some of that.From what I saw at the weekend,Loughgiel shouldn't be unduly worried about Coolderry.Watching them on TV,some of their players looked ,quite frankly,unfit. Given the hype about the great Munster champions N.Par.and the subsequent result anything can happen. I don't think Cooldeery will be counting their chickens. Of course neither should we.

I dont think anyone genuinely believed that they were a great side, everyone who knows anything about these games knew LG had a great chance of turning them over and did so.

NAG1 - your constantly on LG case. Full of snide remarks and always down on them. I take it NAG stands for north Antrim gael, the 1 I figure means your on your own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2012, 02:56:52 PM
Wino, where was my snide comment there? I am just wary of people looking back now and starting to make out that Na P were a great side, they clearly werent. This is not taking away from the LG result as they showed great character to come back after the end to the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 03:10:54 PM
No doubt that an intense all round team performance can make the best of teams look very ordinary. LG put in a great 80 minutes hurling and that shouldn't and I don't think it has been discounted. They played superbly and IMO at a level that they hadn't played at previously. NP's form however going into the match would also suggest that they weren't going well. The flatness of their performance against LG would line up with their form going into the game. I don't think thats an unfair statement to make wino. [head nodding]  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
Irresepective of how they looked on saturday they won munster. To get through a munster championship when the likes of Cork and Tipp sides are in it you have to be a good side.

Let's be honest here for any antrim team to beat any munster team is a massive achievement. If they can beat a munster team then they have a chance in the final. It's a big ask yes but so was beating a munster team.

Incidentally did dunloy beat any munster teams in getting to their finals? I know they beat a few galway teams but did they beat any munster teams? (genuine question and not stirring when I ask it)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 13, 2012, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
Irresepective of how they looked on saturday they won munster. To get through a munster championship when the likes of Cork and Tipp sides are in it you have to be a good side.

Let's be honest here for any antrim team to beat any munster team is a massive achievement. If they can beat a munster team then they have a chance in the final. It's a big ask yes but so was beating a munster team.

Incidentally did dunloy beat any munster teams in getting to their finals? I know they beat a few galway teams but did they beat any munster teams? (genuine question and not stirring when I ask it)

i think they beat Mount Sion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 03:28:09 PM
Yes they did. Was at it Mount Sion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on February 13, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
They beat Mount Sion by a point in 2002/2003, they got beat by Birr in the final I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2012, 03:40:05 PM
Ah yes. A load of good waterford players were on that team too. Forgot about that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 13, 2012, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 12, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
I'm getting the distinct impression you aren't enamoured with me. Every time you've posted has been against me or LG. You're opinion, therefore, becomes irrelevant. Yes, we won. That is not the issue, if we were stuffed I'd have been saying the same thing. Maybe we should all be lambs like you and accept the status quot.

SIE what are you talking about? Did you read what i said in the context of what i was responding to? If not i will ask you a straightforward question; can you give me specific examples of "blatant anti-northern refereeing" by Anthony Stapleton in yesterdays game?
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actually that's the first time i have seen stapleton not shafting an antrim team. when we played offaly two years ago in Parnell we where leading by a point and he played well on after injury time was over and awarded Shane Dooley a very dubious free for them to level. we lost in extra time ill never forgive him for that or when he was in charge the same year antrim v carlow in casement the bias that night was blatant against antrim. but i thought he had a good game yesterday for a change

Hound,

was at both the Offaly and Carlow games.

Not sure you could (overly) criticise the ref for the late free to Dooley to equalise - my memory is that he was tripped / fell over an outstretched leg (in respect of a ball that should have long previously been cleared) and was the sort of thing a ref will always give to a team one point down. What I do clearly remember was an unbelievable swipe by the Antrim keeper about a foot over the ball and into the Offaly forward along the end line and no where near the goals half way through the first half which got only a yellow.

As for the Carlow match, he gave a square ball for an Antrim goal while standing 40 yards away which his umpires didnt see as being a square ball. On the other hand, he gave Winker a soft enough penalty (to my eyes). My main memory is that he consistently penalised Antrim players who waved the stick in front of free takers (which he didnt do on Saturday, funny enough). I dont know what was more frustrating - the fact that he kept penalising it or the fact that Antrim players kept doing it!!

In relation to Saturday, none of his decisions (or indeed non-decisions) had any huge bearing on the match - surely that's all you want from a ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 13, 2012, 03:57:38 PM
Nag1......."I don't anyone genuinely believed that they were a great side"..............another " aye but".....see page 978. Despite the fact that they were Munster champions, we should have known they were rubbish. Why would L G  have beaten them otherwise ? I've never heard so many people, both on and off this forum trying to making excuses for LG WINNING. Get a life try and hide your sour grapes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2012, 04:14:35 PM
No sour grapes here, my point was simply that not to be rewriting history, people were starting to say after the event that they were a great side, my simple point was that they werent. I also stated that this didnt take away from LG's performance even if they were a better side you might still have beat them anyway.

Nearly every poster on here said LG were in with a great shout and that they would not be surprised with the win, hence the low key reaction on here.

My point before the game was that you's would need LW/ Eddie to have a wonder day for you to win and I was proven right. I must have been a lucky charm for LG, you should be thanking me instead of picking holes in my posts  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
The refereeing in that carlow game had to be seen to be believed. Antrim didn't get their first free until ~20 minutes into the game against a physical, not dirty, carlow side. There were frees to carlow which no-one could understand. To make matters worse, or better whatever way you look at it, he gave antrim a dodgy free for them to take the lead and ultimately win the game.

I wouldn't have been too happy with the display of Padraig Horan(I think it was him) for antrim against wexford in croke in the quarter one year either. Watson might have well have had a saddle on his back the treatment he was getting from Dave Guiney. He barely got a free and on a key occassion towards the end of the match he got accosted, wexford went up and won a dodgy free, took the lead from this free and went on to win.

There would also be a few other times that spring to mind but carlow was a farce and the wexford one wasn't too good either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 13, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.

Would agree with this post.

Final will be tougher no doubt but the fact that both these teams are relatively new to this level of hurling a lot of it will come down to who handles the occasion.

Loughgiel didn't seem too fazed on Saturday and if they can bring that same composure and intensity on 17th then I will be a very happy man as I think we are in with a great chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 13, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
The refereeing in that carlow game had to be seen to be believed. Antrim didn't get their first free until ~20 minutes into the game against a physical, not dirty, carlow side. There were frees to carlow which no-one could understand. To make matters worse, or better whatever way you look at it, he gave antrim a dodgy free for them to take the lead and ultimately win the game.

I wouldn't have been too happy with the display of Padraig Horan(I think it was him) for antrim against wexford in croke in the quarter one year either. Watson might have well have had a saddle on his back the treatment he was getting from Dave Guiney. He barely got a free and on a key occassion towards the end of the match he got accosted, wexford went up and won a dodgy free, took the lead from this free and went on to win.

There would also be a few other times that spring to mind but carlow was a farce and the wexford one wasn't too good either.

Tommy,

Think I remember that we were denied a goal from Watson for another "square ball" that wasnt in that game where McFall knocked a ball back across the square to Winker standing outside the square who buried it early enough in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 10:04:42 PM
Look this is silly, many posters have said not just this year but for the past 4/5 years that the Munster champions have been very poor and have fallen down a grade or two. Leaving aside Loughgiels win I would have said that Cushendall should have beat a poor De La Salle team. Again if you want to check back there are numerous posts regarding the fact that Cushendall were the better team for most parts in that game.

Another pointer would be that the last Munster team (Newtownshandrum) to win was back in 2004 and before that 1996!! To the Loughgiel lads enjoy the win, plenty of punters laid money on ya's to win so that in itself should let ya know we all fancied a win.

Was also said before the game that Loughgiel needed to get their hands on the ball and not drop the puck outs and stop the panicking. They did, all those things and it came good, even Cushendall men down were clapping (through gritted teeth ;D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:43:06 PM
Clarification from Ulster Council that Glenariffe wouldn't be able to take part in UIHC if they were to win the Antrim IHC, so I hear they have agreed to re-enter SHC at tonight's county meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 10:45:06 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:43:06 PM
Clarification from Ulster Council that Glenariffe wouldn't be able to take part in UIHC if they were to win the Antrim IHC, so I hear they have agreed to re-enter SHC at tonight's county meeting.

Why couldn't they enter? Is there a so many years before they can re-enter?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Wasn't at the meeting MR, but almost sure I remember hearing before that there may be a 5-year exclusion from entering once you win a particular Ulster Club Junior or Intermediate C'ship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Wasn't at the meeting MR, but almost sure I remember hearing before that there may be a 5-year exclusion from entering once you win a particular Ulster Club Junior or Intermediate C'ship.

Aye only right in fairness, is that an Ulster thing? I think there have been teams down south who have entered their own provincial championships
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2012, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Wasn't at the meeting MR, but almost sure I remember hearing before that there may be a 5-year exclusion from entering once you win a particular Ulster Club Junior or Intermediate C'ship.

We last won it (or competed in it) in 2005, my last medal  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 13, 2012, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Wasn't at the meeting MR, but almost sure I remember hearing before that there may be a 5-year exclusion from entering once you win a particular Ulster Club Junior or Intermediate C'ship.

We last won it (or competed in it) in 2005, my last medal  :'(

Your only medal, lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 13, 2012, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 13, 2012, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 13, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
Wasn't at the meeting MR, but almost sure I remember hearing before that there may be a 5-year exclusion from entering once you win a particular Ulster Club Junior or Intermediate C'ship.

We last won it (or competed in it) in 2005, my last medal  :'(

Your only medal, lol

There weren't too many but they are valued  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
I wouldn't stand for that bit of sniping myself minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
I wouldn't stand for that bit of sniping myself minder

Ah bitta criac, at least he never came back with 'aye but'  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on February 14, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.

AYE BUT if LG do win on the 17th, will NAG1 claim their All Ireland is a lesser one because they never played the likes of Portumna, Ballyhale or James Stephens?  All very good teams, but you can only beat who's put in front of you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2012, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 14, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.

AYE BUT if LG do win on the 17th, will NAG1 claim their All Ireland is a lesser one because they never played the likes of Portumna, Ballyhale or James Stephens?  All very good teams, but you can only beat who's put in front of you.

Their second All Ireland mind you!! I hope along with a begrudgingly Skull, Nag1 and maybe a few others that Loughgiel win the final, it may just put the other teams asses in gear and really push on.

I always said that Loughgiel had the team to win an All Ireland, I hope I'm right. Could i say the same thing if the Johnnies or Rossa were in the same position? I remember cheering Rossa on back in the day (Buffers) but my throat would find it difficult to cheer on the Johnnies lol.

Sure we are looking to hand back our football All Ireland medals cause it was a crap team we played in the final also!!! Oh and we never beat Cross so we aren't even All Ireland champions FFS.

Can we debate on whether a team is good based on a performance that was live on TV and for those who went down and watched it in Parnell? or will we keep going on that this team were the Munster champions and by virtue of that, they were leagues above the teams from Antrim!!! Putting ourselves down is something the southern media are very good at.

An oul boy (After the match) was going on about what da fcuk would ya's know about hurling up there!! No better reply was, keep that hurling going in Limerick, you'll get there in the end!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 14, 2012, 06:52:34 PM
Any word on fixtures/dates just yet?

Someone mentioned they might be out at least in draft form.

Anyone in the know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 14, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 14, 2012, 06:52:34 PM
Any word on fixtures/dates just yet?

Someone mentioned they might be out at least in draft form.

Anyone in the know?

Was out with the wee man last nite there and bumped into County Rep who told me club fixtures startin around week after Paddy's Day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2012, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: gelvis on February 14, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.

AYE BUT if LG do win on the 17th, will NAG1 claim their All Ireland is a lesser one because they never played the likes of Portumna, Ballyhale or James Stephens?  All very good teams, but you can only beat who's put in front of you.

Their second All Ireland mind you!! I hope along with a begrudgingly Skull, Nag1 and maybe a few others that Loughgiel win the final, it may just put the other teams asses in gear and really push on.

I always said that Loughgiel had the team to win an All Ireland, I hope I'm right. Could i say the same thing if the Johnnies or Rossa were in the same position? I remember cheering Rossa on back in the day (Buffers) but my throat would find it difficult to cheer on the Johnnies lol.

Sure we are looking to hand back our football All Ireland medals cause it was a crap team we played in the final also!!! Oh and we never beat Cross so we aren't even All Ireland champions FFS.

Can we debate on whether a team is good based on a performance that was live on TV and for those who went down and watched it in Parnell? or will we keep going on that this team were the Munster champions and by virtue of that, they were leagues above the teams from Antrim!!! Putting ourselves down is something the southern media are very good at.

An oul boy (After the match) was going on about what da fcuk would ya's know about hurling up there!! No better reply was, keep that hurling going in Limerick, you'll get there in the end!!
to start of with MR2, i still cant believe were in all ireland final,  unreal proud of the fight in them lads on sat,  and Ive said it as long long time,  i felt that team had massive performances in them, in antrim on any day, anyone can beat each other!!  everyone knows that.  i think main reason behind such an effort was the fact that they felt they had "left something" in Dublin last Feb,    lets hope that same hunger shows up on the 17Th.      and then on another note,    theres enough dirt on the other side of the border to put us "nordys" down without us doing it to ourselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2012, 08:54:43 AM
Quote from: gelvis on February 14, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 13, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
It's blatantly clear that there are no shades of grey allowed, when it comes to giving opinions/perspectives on the teams/the game played at the weekend. Your either with us or agin us being the moto.

I actually think LG are in with a great chance of winning the AI club championship.
A) Because they put in a great team performance at the weekend and will give any team something to think about if they maintain that performance level.
B) Because they will not be facing a team like Birr, Athenry, Portumna in their prime who suffered SF defeats before becoming powerhouses at this level. Both teams are relative rookies.

No doubt those already "offended" will see this as a snipe rather than see comments like these as simple fact. I'm not quite sure why. Maybe they don't enjoy the praise from all quarters and prefer to take exception to anyone who would dare to suggest that NP weren't one of the best club teams to have came out of munster going on recent form.

AYE BUT if LG do win on the 17th, will NAG1 claim their All Ireland is a lesser one because they never played the likes of Portumna, Ballyhale or James Stephens?  All very good teams, but you can only beat who's put in front of you.

Guys I think your missing my point. No if LG win it, it will be because they deserve to and they can only play the teams put in front of them. My opinion which was only mentioned because other people were starting to make out that Na P were a great side was that they were not. Does this take away from LG's performance NO.

My point is quite simple that Antrim teams have never really had any fear of playing Limerick teams be that inter county or club and why should they have. The exact same thing applies to Offaly there should and will be no fear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 10:36:03 AM
Who said they were a great side? The point loughgiel posters were making was that they must have been a great team because they won Munster.

I've already highlighted that the Munster club championships have not produced a winner since 2004 and before that it was 96!!

Lets move on to the final. Offaly teams as Dunloy know fair pretty well at this stage!!   Coolderry will be a good team also, I make it an even game and down to who wins the breaks. Loughgiel won majority of the breaks on saturday (winning break ball is not entirely down to luck) and their confidence is up. As someone else has said don't let themselves get caught up in the moment.

And they may win a second!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 15, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
 "Aye buttery" is alive and well.Who cares how good they were, they were as good as they were allowed to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 15, 2012, 02:41:02 PM
"Aye buttery" is alive and well.Who cares how good they were, they were as good as they were allowed to be.

Get that chip off your shoulder Buswhacker, honestly it aint doing you any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2012, 03:02:26 PM
It has served them well in fairness MR2 the Millwall attitude, 'everybody hates us, we dont care'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 15, 2012, 03:06:12 PM
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/12/30/3363469e-7d4d-4f21-ad9f-1034b64f6d36.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2012, 03:27:41 PM
I don't think many of us believe that everyone hates us nag. Just most. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2012, 03:29:21 PM
Good enough for Ferguson and United SIE  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 15, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
Lads lads lads....why get bent out of shape if others don't bow down and salute a great win.  I for one couldn't care less if other people write of Loughgiels win as being against an inferior side (although I don't think some are).

The important thing is to beat whoever is in front of you which the lads done on Saturday. Here's hoping they win on the 17th as well.  If they do some may say there was no superpower to beat (Portumna, Birr etc) but that's because they weren't good enough that year to reach this stage.

The title up for grabs is the 2012 All Ireland Club Championship.  if Loughgiel win on the 17th March they will be acknowledged as the best team in Ireland that year - everyone else got the same crack at it. It will be in my opinion no greater / no less of an achievement as those who win it any other given year.

I like a good argument as much as the next man but not everyone will have the same opinion as you all the time.

Rant over  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 05:43:19 PM
Who says it wasnt a great win?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 15, 2012, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 05:43:19 PM
Who says it wasnt a great win?
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 15, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
Lads lads lads....why get bent out of shape if others don't bow down and salute a great win.  I for one couldn't care less if other people write of Loughgiels win as being against an inferior side (although I don't think some are).

The important thing is to beat whoever is in front of you which the lads done on Saturday. Here's hoping they win on the 17th as well.  If they do some may say there was no superpower to beat (Portumna, Birr etc) but that's because they weren't good enough that year to reach this stage.

The title up for grabs is the 2012 All Ireland Club Championship.  if Loughgiel win on the 17th March they will be acknowledged as the best team in Ireland that year - everyone else got the same crack at it. It will be in my opinion no greater / no less of an achievement as those who win it any other given year.

I like a good argument as much as the next man but not everyone will have the same opinion as you all the time.

Rant over  ;D

+1 on both of these
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class

Outstanding score, was the best I've seen at that level in a while, nearly as good as Phelan's sideline cut from halfway to earn extra time against Cushendall  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 15, 2012, 07:13:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class

Outstanding score, was the best I've seen at that level in a while, nearly as good as Phelan's sideline cut from halfway to earn extra time against Cushendall  ;)

I enjoyed that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 15, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
small bit low MR2 :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 16, 2012, 01:20:10 PM
I see the National Hurling development plan has been released, what ever happened to the Belfast Urban Strategy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 16, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class

Outstanding score, was the best I've seen at that level in a while, nearly as good as Phelan's sideline cut from halfway to earn extra time against Cushendall  ;)

You should have seen young Grieve's from St John's point to earn a draw against us in October there......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 16, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class

Outstanding score, was the best I've seen at that level in a while, nearly as good as Phelan's sideline cut from halfway to earn extra time against Cushendall  ;)

You should have seen young Grieve's from St John's point to earn a draw against us in October there......

It may have been a great point, I never seen it and I dare say the level it was,  was slightly less important for your team. Maybe it secured the johnnies (less the Johnstons) next year div one status.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2012, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 16, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 15, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
BTW the 2nd last score the other day was unreal--some skill flicking the ball over the man's head before the crossfield ball to Watson

Class

Outstanding score, was the best I've seen at that level in a while, nearly as good as Phelan's sideline cut from halfway to earn extra time against Cushendall  ;)

You should have seen young Grieve's from St John's point to earn a draw against us in October there......

It may have been a great point, I never seen it and I dare say the level it was,  was slightly less important for your team. Maybe it secured the johnnies (less the Johnstons) next year div one status.

They were staying  up regardless of that point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 16, 2012, 08:40:39 PM
Come on the Shamrocks, we can do it.  Lets prove all the doubters (green eyes) in North Antrim wrong. We beat what was in front of us, not just last week, but in Antrim and Ulster for the 2nd year in a row.  You just cant argue with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 16, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Well said Sham Man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 16, 2012, 09:27:33 PM
Listen think the Shams were super and actually won that game twice on Sat.  I felt they were very poor in antrim final, however we are possibly beginning to see the two years hard work coming through.  That win will bring that team on a help of a lot.  Due to this I can't see them being beat in the next two years in antrim.  Don't know was it 5 in a row or something they lost, I reckon it will be a famous 5 in a row or whatever coming soon. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 16, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 16, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Well said Sham Man.
Cheers BW.  We have to stick together on here.  There are those that are so blind, I see.

We were just magic, tenacious, gutsy, cohesive and dogged.

http://youtu.be/lYlxFTO8toQ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 16, 2012, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 16, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 16, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Well said Sham Man.
Cheers BW.  We have to stick together on here. There are those that are so blind, I see.

We were just magic, tenacious, gutsy, cohesive and dogged.

http://youtu.be/lYlxFTO8toQ

And it looks like you're one of them.

Who has implied that youse weren't all of the above? Its becoming increasingly clear a few of the shams are looking for fight that's just not there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2012, 10:59:05 PM
I have a feeling by St Paddies day the goodwill towards the Shamrocks on this board will be heavily diluted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2012, 11:08:18 PM
I think a few of these "new" posters are coming in fresh from hoganstand by the look of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 16, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
I know what you mean but I don't agree.

I'll be there on the day supporting them !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 17, 2012, 12:00:32 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 16, 2012, 08:40:39 PM
Come on the Shamrocks, we can do it.  Lets prove all the doubters (green eyes) in North Antrim wrong. We beat what was in front of us, not just last week, but in Antrim and Ulster for the 2nd year in a row.  You just cant argue with that.

Not sure what exactly there is to argue with.
1. You can do it - all were impressed by the serious performance put in.
2. There are doubters - until Saturday you had never shown the full potential that you can do it. You might have had blind faith but until Saturday you will have had doubts yourself. If you didn't you were kidding yourself or are delusional.
3. You did beat all in front of you for last two years. This is a fact. Glad you've been paying attention.

Thank you for posting the highlights. A fair few of us were at it. The rest watched on tv. All appear to have been impressed and while there have been some questions about the opposition etc is that Loughgiel's fault? No. Did anyone say it was? No.

You were good losers for 5/6 years in a row. Always coming back for more. Persistent and you finally got the rewards. That is no small achievement to come back year on year.

Now for god's sake be good winners. Enjoy the buzz, the build up, decorating the village, having big breakfast's galore but get over yourself.

To win well and magnanimously is the only way it should be done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 17, 2012, 12:44:15 AM
Wats the johnstons story mr2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 06:24:29 AM
I think we need to keep calm here. To be fair, we have our fair share of gloaters. We're no different in that respect to our esteemed close and not so close neighbours. The time to be on here pontificating about how great we are (and we are great btw, ;)) is perhaps after we win the AI. After that, gloat away. :D

I hear the lads took a well deserved break this week, back training this Saturday morning though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 17, 2012, 12:44:15 AM
Wats the johnstons story mr2?

Rossa I hear, after some work being done to keep them at club (by county officials i heard) they have finally moved on I hear. Though we won't know for certain until Hardstation tells us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
From what I had heard the move was off and they were staying put but maybe that was old news. Be some bad blood in future if they do move, sad for St Johns too but that's what happens I guess when you let the tail wag the dog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2012, 11:39:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 17, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
From what I had heard the move was off and they were staying put but maybe that was old news. Be some bad blood in future if they do move, sad for St Johns too but that's what happens I guess when you let the tail wag the dog.

Is the Da going as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
From my info that was one of the stumbling blocks to the transfer going through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 17, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
"In a bid to promote reconciliation, the community relations department have asked Dunloy to consider supporting Loughguille on St. Patricks day or allowing an orange march through the village.  After close consultation within the community an agreement has been reached.  The Orange march will now take place at 2pm on St. Patricks day". :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 17, 2012, 02:25:55 PM
Possibly not ready for the stand up road show yet sham man.   Only Imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 17, 2012, 02:36:47 PM
Aye but !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
Setting up for a fall comes to mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2012, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 17, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
"In a bid to promote reconciliation, the community relations department have asked Dunloy to consider supporting Loughguille on St. Patricks day or allowing an orange march through the village.  After close consultation within the community an agreement has been reached.  The Orange march will now take place at 2pm on St. Patricks day". :'(
Quote from: Sham Man on February 17, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
"In a bid to promote reconciliation, the community relations department have asked Dunloy to consider supporting Loughguille on St. Patricks day or allowing an orange march through the village.  After close consultation within the community an agreement has been reached.  The Orange march will now take place at 2pm on St. Patricks day". :'(

SIE do you know this clown, hes the sort of mouthpiece gives your club a bad name, less of those half wits and you would be getting a lot more support past and present
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
I've no idea who it is. We're not the only club to have them nah. I've listened to plenty from your own lot, outside of this board, this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 17, 2012, 03:18:11 PM
Perhaps Sham man is a sham in mare ways than yin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on February 17, 2012, 03:18:11 PM
Perhaps Sham man is a sham in mare ways than yin.

+1

And may have been on this fourm before!!! That other clampit isn't on anymore, I wonder what happened to him, forgot his name......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 03:43:42 PM
I was thinking that until I seen that "march" thing. That's been doing the rounds since Saturday. I suppose it could've leaked out, so to speak.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2011, 10:02:42 PM
Would have less chat about it lads in fairness, the Limerick team know they are no world beaters and will certainly go into this game expecting it to be real tough, with the experience that Loughgiel have they won't underestimate ya's.

Have said already that this was the best draw, (Munster) as they haven't been great of late so it's all down to the prep work put in from now to Feb. Some teams would be better suited to play off the games now and not have the wait over Xmas and Jan.

Dec 4th I put this up,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2012, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 03:03:52 PM
I've no idea who it is. We're not the only club to have them nah. I've listened to plenty from your own lot, outside of this board, this week.

what have MY LOT been saying. any one i spoke to that was at the match where full of praise for the way YOUR LOT hurled. I heard nothing but positive comments as it should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
I was keeping 4 lads from Dunloy up to date with the scores. Cut a long story short. At the end 1 wished us well, 1 said it's a poor competition this year. When I asked if they were for watching the deferred coverage those 2 said that they would. The other two stopped wanting texts at half time of extra time. When asked if they were for watching the match both said no. One answered with the embellishment of "I couldn't watch them tramps win anything". A man in his mid forties no less. Needless to say he'll be getting no more updates, his number has been deleted.

Like I say, we all have them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 05:13:09 PM
Btw, I'm not defending this sham-man person, just answering your observation of our supporters, of which there are plenty of good ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 17, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
Hardstation a comrade of yours informs me Rossa are not exactly putting out the welcome mat for the johnstons?

The johnnies half of the old firm don't seem to know (or care) much either!

Maybe they could go up the hill - or down the lane!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 17, 2012, 06:34:25 PM
I know every club has them but dunloy certainly blessed with more than their fair share
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
Count how many 'yenoe's' are said in this clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLbazjWEMs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
Count how many 'yenoe's' are said in this clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLbazjWEMs
I counted 45 yenoes, like!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Maybe it is just a coincidence but our Cushendall bretheren have been keeping a very low profile since the super shams won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2012, 08:42:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
I was keeping 4 lads from Dunloy up to date with the scores. Cut a long story short. At the end 1 wished us well, 1 said it's a poor competition this year. When I asked if they were for watching the deferred coverage those 2 said that they would. The other two stopped wanting texts at half time of extra time. When asked if they were for watching the match both said no. One answered with the embellishment of "I couldn't watch them tramps win anything". A man in his mid forties no less. Needless to say he'll be getting no more updates, his number has been deleted.

Like I say, we all have them.

sound like right tossers,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Indeed. I actually ended up sitting beside a Dunloy man last week. He was shouting as much as the rest of us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 17, 2012, 06:34:25 PM
I know every club has them but dunloy certainly blessed with more than their fair share

oh really i take it you have conducted a accurate and concise survey, would you like to be more specific about your findings in maybe the form of stats, percentages and maybe a graph. Oh hold on a minute somethings just occurred to me maybe you have been waiting for an opportunity to express an opinion which nobody cares about and thought you would butt in to someone Else's correspondence. Do us  all a favour and go back to doing what you do best, never worry about the blisters on your palm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 17, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
Aye but that's a wile cliver post,so it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 17, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Maybe it is just a coincidence but our Cushendall bretheren have been keeping a very low profile since the super shams won.

And that concerns you how Minder? You seem more concerned about our reaction to the result more so than the Loughgiel posters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 17, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Maybe it is just a coincidence but our Cushendall bretheren have been keeping a very low profile since the super shams won.

And that concerns you how Minder? You seem more concerned about our reaction to the result more so than the Loughgiel posters.

I am a terrible worrier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2012, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 17, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 17, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Maybe it is just a coincidence but our Cushendall bretheren have been keeping a very low profile since the super shams won.

And that concerns you how Minder? You seem more concerned about our reaction to the result more so than the Loughgiel posters.

I am a terrible worrier.

Bloody hell, talk about a crowd arguing over f**k all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 12:49:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
Count how many 'yenoe's' are said in this clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbLbazjWEMs
You leave our boy alone  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 18, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Indeed. I actually ended up sitting beside a Dunloy man last week. He was shouting as much as the rest of us.
"The way it should be SIE, the way it should be" -  Fair play to the Dunloy fellow.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 18, 2012, 02:46:27 PM
Aye but, what was he shouting ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 18, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Ulster double-header on march17 so plenty of support (not like loughiel bring enough!) anyone know which game is on
1st?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2012, 06:33:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 18, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Ulster double-header on march17 so plenty of support (not like loughiel bring enough!) anyone know which game is on
1st?

I thought they alternated them, if so hurling on second.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 18, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
From what I've heard it's the hurling first. I've been told two different times though. 1.30 or 2.00.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2012, 06:41:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 18, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
From what I've heard it's the hurling first. I've been told two different times though. 1.30 or 2.00.

How they never learn, bogball first followed by the hurling please. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 18, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 18, 2012, 06:33:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 18, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Ulster double-header on march17 so plenty of support (not like loughiel bring enough!) anyone know which game is on
1st?

I thought they alternated them, if so hurling on second.
St Galls were on 2nd in 2010 and Cross were on 2nd last year.

No?

Yeah i think you are right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 18, 2012, 07:40:45 PM
Aye, they decided to put the better game on first a few years back. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 18, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
Hurling first so that they get the best of the pitch conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 18, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2012, 05:13:09 PM
Btw, I'm not defending this sham-man person, just answering your observation of our supporters, of which there are plenty of good ones.
I don't need you to defend me at all SIE, I am well able myself.  Jesus , some of ye boys take things wild serious :o  However, by the looks of things you could do with a little support here, u seem to get the constant ribbing about our club/team by our near and not so near adversaries.  I dont want you to take the fleck all on your own lad.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 19, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
Most of the fellas on here are alright sham. The rest are WUMs. But sure, it's all good craic, it'd be boring without the odd "disagreement".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 19, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
Most of the fellas on here are alright sham. The rest are WUMs. But sure, it's all good craic, it'd be boring without the odd "disagreement".

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 19, 2012, 01:56:34 PM
I see the Antrim panel has been cut for the National League games. How many got the chop?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 19, 2012, 01:56:34 PM
I see the Antrim panel has been cut for the National League games. How many got the chop?

After my performance yesterday, im out!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 19, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 18, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Ulster double-header on march17 so plenty of support (not like loughiel bring enough!) anyone know which game is on
1st?

There's a meeting tomorrow evening to decide which game is on first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 19, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on February 19, 2012, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 18, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
Ulster double-header on march17 so plenty of support (not like loughiel bring enough!) anyone know which game is on
1st?

There's a meeting tomorrow evening to decide which game is on first.
Let's hope it's the hurling P.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?

Well if it were two yellows Neil will be available for next week.  Were you at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 20, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
Any one got the team from yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 20, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 20, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
Any one got the team from yesterday?
ftp://

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/hayes-sparks-connacht-into-life-as-okane-rues-dismissal-3024572.html


SCORERS -- Connacht: N Burke 0-8 (4f), I Tannian 1-4, E Ryan 1-3, D Glennon 1-0, J Coen, N Healy (1f) 0-2 each.

Ulster: K Stewart 0-6 (6f), N McManus 0-5 (4f), C Donnelly 1-0 (pen), M Armstrong 0-2, N McAuley, C Carville 0-1 each.

Connacht (Galway unless stated) -- J Ryan; P Shiel, N Donoghue, G O'Halloran; T Og Regan, F Moore, B Flaherty; J Grealish, D Fox; B Burke, N Burke, E Ryan; D Hayes, J Coen, I Tannian. Subs: B Daly for Fox (h-t), D Glennon for Grealish (46), N Healy for N Burke (56), P Gordon for Flaherty (58), K Raymond (Sligo) for Coen (74).

Ulster -- G Clarke (Down); A Graffin (Antrim), C Donnelly (Antrim), S Ennis (Down); N McAuley (Antrim), L Hinphey (Derry), S McCrory (Antrim); C Woods (Down), N McManus (Antrim); M Herron (Antrim), K McGarry (Down), M Armstrong (Antrim); P McCloskey (Derry), K Stewart (Antrim), C Carville (Armagh). Subs: J Coyle for McGarry (h-t), R Gaffney for McCloskey (43), M Ennis for S Ennis (78).

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 20, 2012, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?

Well if it were two yellows Neil will be available for next week.  Were you at it?
No MR2, bush telegraph only, was at a christening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
So by my counting thats 17 scores from play to 4  :-\

Not surprised as it's been stated for a year or two that (in Antrim anyway) we are not developing forwards who can score. Not much sign that this particular problem is being addressed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 20, 2012, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?

Well if it were two yellows Neil will be available for next week.  Were you at it?
No MR2, bush telegraph only, was at a christening.

Aye reliable that. For an injured Karl Stewart they must have used all their subs before he was injured, otherwise they would have taken him off!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 21, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 20, 2012, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?

Well if it were two yellows Neil will be available for next week.  Were you at it?
No MR2, bush telegraph only, was at a christening.

Aye reliable that. For an injured Karl Stewart they must have used all their subs before he was injured, otherwise they would have taken him off!!
Don't shoot me MR2, I am just the messenger.  Transpires it was only a dead leg anyway, but lets not get excited.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
Loughgiel on first on St Patrick's day at 2pm. Football on at 3.45. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 21, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
Loughgiel on first on St Patrick's day at 2pm. Football on at 3.45.

good news for if and it likely will be the second game is shite we can head on up the road
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
I don't think there'll be too many of us hanging around after the match, win, loose or draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 21, 2012, 06:12:23 PM
I will be there for both - supporting both northern teams.
Think it would be great to have a big crowd cheering each on after some of the recent bias exhibited - and I ain't normally one for a chip on the shoulder!
All that's left is the inevitable shamrocks "injury scare" let's hope everyone fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 06:36:19 PM
To be fair, the rumours of injuries were coming from outside Loughgiel.  If you'd read my posts during the couple of months pre the Na Piarsaigh game you'd have seen that I posted we had no injuries, just niggles which were run off at least a couple of weeks before the game.

As for the football, I'm sure a few lg supporters will stay for it, but if we win I can assure there's only one place I want to be. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 21, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 06:36:19 PM
To be fair, the rumours of injuries were coming from outside Loughgiel.  If you'd read my posts during the couple of months pre the Na Piarsaigh game you'd have seen that I posted we had no injuries, just niggles which were run off at least a couple of weeks before the game.

As for the football, I'm sure a few lg supporters will stay for it, but if we win I can assure there's only one place I want to be. ;)

Bridge Inn, Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
:). Wouldn't be the first time.


Not on this occasion, however, I wouldn't rule out a run over the next day or 7 though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2012, 08:14:11 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 21, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 20, 2012, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2012, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
He is well able sham man,   Don't loose any sleep over it  ;)
Glad to hear it SG, glad to hear it indeed.  I hear Neil McManus got the line today agin Connacht. By all accounts it should have been a straight Red instead of 2 yellows.  Karl Stewart also carrying an injury from the game. I wonder what Wallis will have to say about that, especially when our lads are not available?

Well if it were two yellows Neil will be available for next week.  Were you at it?
No MR2, bush telegraph only, was at a christening.

Aye reliable that. For an injured Karl Stewart they must have used all their subs before he was injured, otherwise they would have taken him off!!
Don't shoot me MR2, I am just the messenger.  Transpires it was only a dead leg anyway, but lets not get excited.  8)

I'm not excited, certainly with anything you have posted lately ;D 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 21, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Genuinely interested here and not stirring the pot.

Leaving aside the soundbites - what us the real thoughts of most hurling people from the other north Antrim clubs on loughiel.

I mean, do the north Antrim hurlers outside of loughiel support the shamrocks but don't admit it?

Or do they want them to lose - but let on they are supporting them?

Is there even an answer to this?!

I think in the city there is general support?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2012, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 21, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Genuinely interested here and not stirring the pot.

Leaving aside the soundbites - what us the real thoughts of most hurling people from the other north Antrim clubs on loughiel.

I mean, do the north Antrim hurlers outside of loughiel support the shamrocks but don't admit it?

Or do they want them to lose - but let on they are supporting them?

Is there even an answer to this?!

I think in the city there is general support?
;D  This should be enlightening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 21, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
The jealousy and hatred when any N.Antrim team does well, is plain to be seen.This applies to all N.Antrim teams not just one. The supporters are the main culprits,I don't think the players themselves are as stupid. This attitude is one of the reasons why the county team never has the wholehearted support it should have.Too much bitterness and it will never change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 21, 2012, 11:59:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 21, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Genuinely interested here and not stirring the pot.

Leaving aside the soundbites - what us the real thoughts of most hurling people from the other north Antrim clubs on loughiel.

I mean, do the north Antrim hurlers outside of loughiel support the shamrocks but don't admit it?

Or do they want them to lose - but let on they are supporting them?

Is there even an answer to this?!

I think in the city there is general support?

Do you honestly think Dunloy people would support us on our 2nd quest for glory when the have failed miserably 4 Times in the recent past. Sure just look at the ribbing they give us when we lost the county finals.  Come on, get real here lad.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2012, 12:10:46 AM
QuotePersonally, I don't think it's the role of e.g. a Dunloy supporter/player to "support" the likes of the Loughgiel team (and all the other combinations). To suggest otherwise is politically correct horsesh1t

Of course "not support" can range from simply "not supporting" to "hating". The former is where rival team supporters should try to be, but some are more easily goaded than others and will always feel they have good reason to "hate" instead.

The job of every supporter is to do what he/she can to get behind his team and push them on and not focus on things he has no control over. i.e another rival teams success


When you do look at the way top counties support their county players it is a bit cringeable at Antrim games where you really do get a sense of the fragmented half hearted support that we give our team and would agree N Antrim supporters are to blame in that regard. It would be nice if we could detach ourselves for that hour from our entrenched positions.

It is OK though to hate half wit knob end WUM supporters of other teams. Every club has them ...... w4nkers the lot of them  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 06:29:56 AM
Some of the genuine hurling people would want us to do well, others want us stuffed. In genera,l we're hated throughout NA. In some cases supporters of other clubs will say it's because of our supporters (a minority of). Others won't admit it, but it boils down to that empty space in their trophy cabinet and their respective histories. Jealousy in other words. Some of them would even go as far as to say that winning the all Ireland was the worst thing to have happened our club as it generated more hatred. Personally, I'd rather have one that none. I'm reliably informed however that the hatred was there and well entrenched long before 1983.

Let's face it, it would be a pretty boring affair every year if we all got along on the hurling field. Sure, a mutual hatred is a healthy thing, no? I know there aren't the same feelings between most of the hurlers. There would be a mutual respect there, but a healthy rivalry also.

Considering the ill feeling that there is between Dunloy/Cushendall/Ballycastle towards Loughgiel, and vice versa, there are never too many nasty incidents between supporters. I believe a lot of it is over blown. I mean, look at how many people live in and around each other's parishes without so much as a slap on the jaw. There's a lot of winding up of course (experienced first hand) but if it's taken in the spirit intended then it's a good thing. Especially when I can walk around a pub in said parish with my red and white gear on, no problem.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 07:20:27 AM
We should really get an age limit on this board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 07:31:47 AM
In reference to who MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
Oh please!

Nobody does disingenuous like you SIE. You ignore/don't make any reference to the wind up post above as if it didn't exist and now you're completely clueless about who (I presume) MR is referring to. You know right well


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 22, 2012, 08:20:57 AM
Healthy rivalry is fine, but not so sure about mutual hatred though.

give it your all on the park and once its over, its over.

Hate people whining after games about who did what and they're 'for it' next time, normally from someone lacking a set of swingers in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 08:21:41 AM
It's actually hard to know with MR2 skull. It's a genuine question. Perhaps a quote would have helped. Not a morning person skull?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2012, 08:40:31 AM
I don't believe for one second it's really a genuine question.

If you look at evey post since MR's last contribution, you're telling me it's difficult to pin point who he's referring to? I have assumed it's socratic irony but maybe I'm assuming to much about you.

No problem with mornings kid. Just smelt some bullshit from your good self and thought I'd call it. Possibly triggered by they way you decided not to comment on your fellow sham's post whilst you wax'd on about youse being hated out of pure jealousy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 08:50:21 AM
what is the policy on double accounts on here anyway?  ???

As to the hatred or non hatred, I think a bit of rivalry is what the GAA is based on parish v parish and all that. Maybe that is why the city teams havent been successful on a sustained basis because it is difficult to engender that kind of parish feel to a club in the big smoke (in hurling terms anyway), maybe just one element but maybe an important one IMO.

But no matter what is said LG bring alot of the flack on themselves by their behaviour as a club and individual supporters over a good few years. Maybe that's why throughout the county there was a lack of sympathy to them in their run of final defeats.

As I said they have developed a sense of 'everyone hates us, we dont care' which has worked for them in the last couple of years, only thing that way is that you dont win many friends with that attitude. But then again as the quote says they dont care.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 08:53:10 AM
You can assume all you want, Skull. As for my post, you obviously read it with your green tinted goggles on, or was it with your bleary eyes? You missed the important words "some" and "others" in my post. Only a fool would think that it was all the supporters. I certainly don't. I also hadn't read MR2's previous post, as the youngsters say nowadays, "my bad".

As for the previous posts of my fellow lg men, if you've a gripe with them I suggest you take it up with them. Nothing to do with me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 08:56:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 08:50:21 AM
what is the policy on double accounts on here anyway?  ???

As to the hatred or non hatred, I think a bit of rivalry is what the GAA is based on parish v parish and all that. Maybe that is why the city teams havent been successful on a sustained basis because it is difficult to engender that kind of parish feel to a club in the big smoke (in hurling terms anyway), maybe just one element but maybe an important one IMO.

But no matter what is said LG bring alot of the flack on themselves by their behaviour as a club and individual supporters over a good few years. Maybe that's why throughout the county there was a lack of sympathy to them in their run of final defeats.

As I said they have developed a sense of 'everyone hates us, we dont care' which has worked for them in the last couple of years, only thing that way is that you dont win many friends with that attitude. But then again as the quote says they dont care.
care to elaborate on this point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 09:05:32 AM
Just for example, the behaviour of managers / water carriers / physios on match days toward opposition benches, players or crowds. Though the outsiders coming in have curtailed this to your benefit, it was just an observation as to why you may not be feeling the love from other clubs.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
I'm sure it hasn't helped, agreed. Then again nag, we get our fair share of abuse from the opposite side too. An example of which was the carry on of a certain mentor in the county final last year. There's a limit to what's acceptable. Perhaps this kind of shenanigans should be clamped down on a lot tougher. 


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
I'm sure it hasn't helped, agreed. Then again nag, we get our fair share of abuse from the opposite side too. An example of which was the carry on of a certain mentor in the county final last year. There's a limit to what's acceptable. Perhaps this kind of shenanigans should be clamped down on a lot tougher.

I wasn't claiming everyone else was whiter than white, just was pointing to my thoughts on why you maybe wouldn't be as liked as you may or may not want to be  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
We're liked well enough in some places of NA nag. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
Oh yeah, the hinter lands fairly come out in support when there is a bit of success about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2012, 09:59:25 AM
Well if my question was guilty of stirring maybe I will explain!

After maybe one too many after the semi-final I got talking to a number of North Antrim men.
There was no shortage of people saying "I hope they dont win this - i could bear it"
But the same folk would comment "It would be good for northern hurling to stick it up the patronising southerners" etc

So I was genuinely looking for an explanation to the contradiction.

My guess is that within Antrim people don't like Loughiel (in general not personal opinion) but outside they are happy to be associated with any success.

Now that explained (if thats ok MR2?!) can someone tell me - what is WUM?

Also I see the championship draws are made on Monday night and league fixtures to be published also - any thoughts here guys?

We can excuse our Shamrock brethren for the moment while they have bigger fish to fry!
Although the record of club teams returning from Croker is not great in any county I believe!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 10:03:08 AM
WUM = wind up merchant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 22, 2012, 10:51:58 AM
I think we all should all remember that there is intense local rivalries across Ireland. This is not confined to N.Antrim..look at Tyrone/Derry etc. Some clubs don't want their neighbours to win an All Ireland...so what?? This is not uncommon throughout Ireland. Most would admit it would be a great achievement to do so.

Alot of rivalries depend on who is challenging for honours at the time..obviously Loughgiel have been heavily involved the last 7/8 years...there is great rivalry with C'Dall/Dunloy...but they struggled in the 90's. Ballycastle were involved in some big matches in the 70's/80's/ early 90's...they aren't doing as well now.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
I would like to see Loughgiel do well. I would be in the same opinion if any Ulster club was in the final.

My biggest problem with Loughgiel is that they are poor winners. They have fans who like to remind us all the time that they have an all ireland they have won 2 championships in a row.

I know its not all fans but the attitude of some of the fans is giving the club the bad name.

I do have to admit that Loughgule are better losers than winners and I think many people would agree with me

This is the same with all clubs we have our own problems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 22, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
I would like to see Loughgiel do well. I would be in the same opinion if any Ulster club was in the final.

My biggest problem with Loughgiel is that they are poor winners. They have fans who like to remind us all the time that they have an all ireland they have won 2 championships in a row.

I know its not all fans but the attitude of some of the fans is giving the club the bad name.

I do have to admit that Loughgule are better losers than winners and I think many people would agree with me

This is the same with all clubs we have our own problems.
Sure enough Oisinog, we are good losers, no question about that.  Now don't we deserve to revel in our recent glories, well I think so.  Would other hurling clubs in our beloved county not do the same?  In particular, North Antrim like! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 22, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
I would like to see Loughgiel do well. I would be in the same opinion if any Ulster club was in the final.

My biggest problem with Loughgiel is that they are poor winners. They have fans who like to remind us all the time that they have an all ireland they have won 2 championships in a row.

I know its not all fans but the attitude of some of the fans is giving the club the bad name.

I do have to admit that Loughgule are better losers than winners and I think many people would agree with me

This is the same with all clubs we have our own problems.
Sure enough Oisinog, we are good losers, no question about that.  Now don't we deserve to revel in our recent glories, well I think so.  Would other hurling clubs in our beloved county not do the same?  In particular, North Antrim like! :P

From your own posts you are backing up what I said.

I have no issue with a club celebrating their win but I don't like hearing about the win from a fan who was a 2 games all season

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 22, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Get a life folks,especially the "Aye buts". The last time we won  the All-Ireland,The Pound and all the local taverns were besieged with other clubs supporters for about a week. Despite the fact that some of them were a bit miffed (to say the least),they came from Dunloy,the Glens,Derry and even Tyrone.I think they came to realise that this was an achievement that all Northeners could revel in.One particular Gael from Glenariffe came over on 3 nights in a row (and never touched drink).........he must have been the only one. The win gave the game a bit of a boost in Antrim and it showed what could be achieved by a team that was not even expected the Antrim championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 12:36:07 PM
Didn't see Bushwacker, SIE, Shamman or any other Loughgiel man in our club when we won an All Ireland.

Liam would pop in the odd time, be the only Loughgiel man I've seen in the club. Oh and I have been in the Pound over the years, the ball even stops on the pool table when 'strangers' walk in ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 22, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
The times that were in it!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 12:36:07 PM

Didn't see Bushwacker, SIE, Shamman or any other Loughgiel man in our club when we won an All Ireland.

Liam would pop in the odd time, be the only Loughgiel man I've seen in the club. Oh and I have been in the Pound over the years, the ball even stops on the pool table when 'strangers' walk in ;)
you sure about that MR2?  ;)

Unfortunately football generates little to no interest in Loughgiel. No matter who wins it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 22, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 12:36:07 PM

Didn't see Bushwacker, SIE, Shamman or any other Loughgiel man in our club when we won an All Ireland.

Liam would pop in the odd time, be the only Loughgiel man I've seen in the club. Oh and I have been in the Pound over the years, the ball even stops on the pool table when 'strangers' walk in ;)
you sure about that MR2?  ;)

Unfortunately football generates little to no interest in Loughgiel. No matter who wins it.
And we are as parochial as anyone else, but it really depends on who/what  "stranger walks in".  No different in the big smoke, if you ask me.  ;D  Some would attempt to convince others that we are welcome on their patch, I am not convinced.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2012, 01:49:09 PM
to all non shamrock posters
.
Lads I'm suggesting we leave to loughgeil bashing to after the 17Th. I think everyone on here is aware of their  position in the popularity stakes and why this is the case. but now is not the time, they are earned the place in an all ireland club final and if we cant wish them well then its best to say or write nothing. If most other club posters (including myself) and fans perceive themselves as more dignified and gracious in victory or defeat well its hypocritical to behave with the same begrudged stance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 22, 2012, 01:55:13 PM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 22, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2012, 01:49:09 PM
to all non shamrock posters
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Lads I'm suggesting we leave to loughgeil bashing to after the 17Th. I think everyone on here is aware of their  position in the popularity stakes and why this is the case. but now is not the time, they are earned the place in an all ireland club final and if we cant wish them well then its best to say or write nothing. If most other club posters (including myself) and fans perceive themselves as more dignified and gracious in victory or defeat well its hypocritical to behave with the same begrudged stance.

at last, a bit of sense  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 22, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2012, 01:49:09 PM
to all non shamrock posters
.
Lads I'm suggesting we leave to loughgeil bashing to after the 17Th. I think everyone on here is aware of their  position in the popularity stakes and why this is the case. but now is not the time, they are earned the place in an all ireland club final and if we cant wish them well then its best to say or write nothing. If most other club posters (including myself) and fans perceive themselves as more dignified and gracious in victory or defeat well its hypocritical to behave with the same begrudged stance.
Very magnanimous of you, well said lad.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2012, 01:49:09 PM
to all non shamrock posters
.
Lads I'm suggesting we leave to loughgeil bashing to after the 17Th. I think everyone on here is aware of their  position in the popularity stakes and why this is the case. but now is not the time, they are earned the place in an all ireland club final and if we cant wish them well then its best to say or write nothing. If most other club posters (including myself) and fans perceive themselves as more dignified and gracious in victory or defeat well its hypocritical to behave with the same begrudged stance.

Who's bashing Loughgiel's performances this year? I have backed them from the start!! Even before Loughgiel were winning I said they had the best team to win the entire thing!! That's been based on playing against them and watching them numerous times. They have the mental edge that may get them over the line on Paddy's day.

So can we put to bed the Loughgiel hating malarkey??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 22, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
Team from Sunday from county site

1   Chris O Connell         Na Seamroga
2   Aaron Graffin    Ruairi Og
3   Cormac Donnelly       Mac Uilin
4   Kieran Mc Gourty   Naomh Gall
5   Neal Mc Auley    Mac Uilin
6   Neil Mc Manus           Ruairi Og
7   Simon Mc Crory           Naomh Eoin
8   Karl Stewart    Naomh Gall
9   Barry McFall    Naomh Eoin
10   Sean Mc Laughlin   Cathaoir an Rí
11   Michael Herron    Lamh  Dhearg Capt
12   Colm McFall    Naomh Eoin
13   Shane Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og
14   Kevin Sheeran    Tir na nOg
15   PJ O Connell    Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
16   Seanan Mc Toal    Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17   John Kerr                   Ui D Rosa
18   Adrian Downey    Naomh Eoin
19   Michael Gettins    Oisin, Gleann Airbh
20   K B Mc Shane    Mac Uilin
21   Ciarnan Rea           Padraig Sairseil
22   Paul Shiels                   Cú Chullain
23   Declan Lynch    Lamh  Dhearg
24   Darren Hamill    Shane O Neills
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
I think we're all agreed on the Loughiel point then - no doubt we'll return to it by 4pm on March17 if not before!
MR2 - are you off the drink for Lent? A little bit sensitive this weather! Relax - your milltown men may get a good draw on Monday night!

As for the county team - I think 1-7 is very strong, but it goes downhill from there on.
Even as a Belfast man the two McFall's don't inspire me, and I struggle to see where the scores will come from elsewhere in McLaughlin Sheerin O'Connell. Its a big ask for Shane and Micko to lead the line.

That said, Wexford are famous for being poor travellers and hopefully they are not too eager to impress Liam Dunne!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
Thats as strong a team as we can put out at the min.

My biggest problem is the goal keeper until DD returns to play that will be our weak point.

Before the Loughgiel crown start on me I just feel Chrissy O'Connell does not have enough big game experience he does not start enough for his club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 22, 2012, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 12:36:07 PM
Didn't see Bushwacker, SIE, Shamman or any other Loughgiel man in our club when we won an All Ireland.

Liam would pop in the odd time, be the only Loughgiel man I've seen in the club. Oh and I have been in the Pound over the years, the ball even stops on the pool table when 'strangers' walk in ;)


Poacher come Gamekeeper, sounds like.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 22, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
I think we're all agreed on the Loughiel point then - no doubt we'll return to it by 4pm on March17 if not before!
MR2 - are you off the drink for Lent? A little bit sensitive this weather! Relax - your milltown men may get a good draw on Monday night!

As for the county team - I think 1-7 is very strong, but it goes downhill from there on.
Even as a Belfast man the two McFall's don't inspire me, and I struggle to see where the scores will come from elsewhere in McLaughlin Sheerin O'Connell. Its a big ask for Shane and Micko to lead the line.

That said, Wexford are famous for being poor travellers and hopefully they are not too eager to impress Liam Dunne!

I'm grand but there are some wile eejits on this site talking up something or being WUM's.

Anybody who starts a thread wanting to know why a certain team is hated then not contribute to it is a WUM in my opinion that is.

1-7 very strong and from Karl Stewart down is poor? Oh yes that's right your not a Wum :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 22, 2012, 05:37:28 PM
Haven't seen a few of those players, and haven't seen much of the McFalls but they must be good players to keep Shorty of that team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Ok then mr2 - 1-8 is strong but I have doubts about the rest.

Your posts are getting very touchy nearly cryptic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 22, 2012, 08:22:30 PM
Quote from: oisinog on February 22, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
Thats as strong a team as we can put out at the min.

My biggest problem is the goal keeper until DD returns to play that will be our weak point.

Before the Loughgiel crown start on me I just feel Chrissy O'Connell does not have enough big game experience he does not start enough for his club.

who else would you put in there oisinog bar Magee of Dunloy.  O'Connell has played for loughgiel seniors a good few times, and has a hell of alot of county experience (a fair bit of it being in the nets for the seniors) .  #like i say apart from magee and the number 1 keeper DD, who would you have.  good call jerry if you ask me.  Have to say, not so sure about the full forward but he could be showing well training and matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2012, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 22, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Ok then mr2 - 1-8 is strong but I have doubts about the rest.

Your posts are getting very touchy nearly cryptic!

Touchy? Of course I'm the touchy type ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 22, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
id like to see RK in the county set up,   does mc gee even have a club at min?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
I hear he's back at Dunloy SG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 22, 2012, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 22, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
id like to see RK in the county set up,   does mc gee even have a club at min?

Ronan Kearney was up but didn't make the final cut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 22, 2012, 11:10:51 PM
Minder thats not quite the truth, RK was on the Panel until Sat week ago when Jerry Wallace called him aside and told him as he was injured he was letting him go and would keep an eye on him. RK told him he was ready to resume to training, didn't seem to matter, he obviously wasn't ahead of the Oisins keeper which is laughable. RK turned up to training the previous Sat and was sent straight to the Doc who sent him to the Royal, and he was kept in for 3 days, with cellulitus, and wanted to go back to training, Some treatment from a County manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 22, 2012, 11:27:49 PM
didn't make the cut is a lie to start. 3rd best keeper in county, better IMO than either named for sunday,  i was kinda thinking mushy would have Mc Gee back on board,  gives them something special. not a fan as a person but an unreal keeper!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2012, 07:56:38 AM
I dont think anyone can claim they didn't get a fair crack at it this year and I am sure Wallis had a good look at everyone. We all have opinions about players worth and the manager will have to live by the teams he puts on the field, he maybe just didn't rate Kearney, it happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 23, 2012, 08:49:36 AM
Quote from: maxpower on February 22, 2012, 05:37:28 PM
Haven't seen a few of those players, and haven't seen much of the McFalls but they must be good players to keep Shorty of that team

Seen enough to know that they wouldnt but up to this standard but then again dont see many other from that squad breaking down any doors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
The rest of the keepers that were left on the panel all played a part of a game on Monday night against Derry in Celtic Park, after watching that I think Wallace decided that he wasn't happy with the keepers he picked for his panel and then called CO'C for the game on Sunday, however I don't think that was the plan. Four keepers played 20 minutes each (SmcT, P Nugent, A.N Other and C McAlister from Cushendall). The game was for the Development Squad/U21's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 23, 2012, 12:41:43 PM
Am i not right in saying that Nugent is a minor Keeper, who wont do nets for the County minors yet was called onto the Senior panel? Minder RK did make the cut, and your correct if Wallace doesnt fancy him that's his opinion and the one that counts, what I'm saying is he should have the respect/balls to tell the player the truth instead of using his hospitalisation as an excuse. RK is the only keeper to have played in County finals(6) on the panel at the minute, or sorry was. Another real worry for Sunday is the forwards, cant see were the scores are going to come from to beat even a poor Wexford Team, Shane will be a marked man who will score a few and Pj chips in with important goals , but unless Karl can add scores i just don't believe the rest are up to it. Why is Shorty on bench?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
The rest of the keepers that were left on the panel all played a part of a game on Monday night against Derry in Celtic Park, after watching that I think Wallace decided that he wasn't happy with the keepers he picked for his panel and then called CO'C for the game on Sunday, however I don't think that was the plan. Four keepers played 20 minutes each (SmcT, P Nugent, A.N Other and C McAlister from Cushendall). The game was for the Development Squad/U21's

O'Connell was with the panel before the Derry match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 23, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 23, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
The rest of the keepers that were left on the panel all played a part of a game on Monday night against Derry in Celtic Park, after watching that I think Wallace decided that he wasn't happy with the keepers he picked for his panel and then called CO'C for the game on Sunday, however I don't think that was the plan. Four keepers played 20 minutes each (SmcT, P Nugent, A.N Other and C McAlister from Cushendall). The game was for the Development Squad/U21's

O'Connell was with the panel before the Derry match.

O'Connell has just been called up he was not on the original National league Training Panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2012, 01:31:13 PM
Quote from: oisinog on February 23, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 23, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
The rest of the keepers that were left on the panel all played a part of a game on Monday night against Derry in Celtic Park, after watching that I think Wallace decided that he wasn't happy with the keepers he picked for his panel and then called CO'C for the game on Sunday, however I don't think that was the plan. Four keepers played 20 minutes each (SmcT, P Nugent, A.N Other and C McAlister from Cushendall). The game was for the Development Squad/U21's

O'Connell was with the panel before the Derry match.

O'Connell has just been called up he was not on the original National league Training Panel

Yes but he was there prior to the Derry game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3303
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2012, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3303

Colonel - My last word on this. You said he was called up after the Derry game at the weekend, that is incorrect, he was there before it. I don't know how long before it but he was there before it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 23, 2012, 04:19:09 PM
Jerry Wallace was clear that no Loughgiel players would be included in the League Panel. This has obviously changed. He did name players from Loughgiel in December that were part of the extended panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2012, 04:30:45 PM
Look we are flogging a dead horse here, Jerry has his way of doing it, to RK it is wrong and to most Cushendall men it will be, we have this allegiance to our fellow club players (well most of them  ;)) and we will defend them usually to the hilt.

I'd say RK won't be left off the panel long, whether he would come back is another thing.

Every game Antrim play in the league is so important. Such a hard league. I'll be there on Sunday cheering them on, hoping that 9-15 ;) do better than some of our posters on here think they will.

I hope Neil stays at CHB he will be better for us in that position. Yes it leaves us without a scoring threat up front, but Neil took on too much responsibility and the pressure on him to get the scores meant that other players didn't get to shine. Hopefully with Neil setting up scores from CHB we might get more from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
oisin og who would you want in ??? kearney was certainly worth a try and remember lads at end of the day its all about opinions.  agree with sleeping giant that magee certainly brings something to the panel.  Remember him at school and he was horrible little shit even then.  however he is a talent.  i think its  a good call from jerry and would imagine if kearney starts playing well he would be in if others play poorly.  due to mcgee lack of effort i reckon dd no one and o'connell no 2 and thats all you need on the panel.  young nugent no chance, mctoal just misses out.  don't know much about him but oisin og his own club mate doesn't seem to rate him,  opinion again.  shams the winners as it will give their no 2 a bit of action.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2012, 05:21:39 PM
I told u were touchy mr2!

Yes I will also be there in Sunday - and also cheering on Antrim - and also hoping 9-15 do better than I think!

Although I do note u say urself that Neil at chb leaves us "without a scoring threat up front".
Be careful you don't agree now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 23, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
Not many Dunloy men in the panel,are they not up to the high standard required?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 05:29:25 PM
"Two years ago, Dublin played Antrim here in Croke Park and lost. If you're working at ground level with the players, you realise — Antrim are as well placed as Dublin are now. If the players can get over the lack of self-belief, that's the only thing that's telling against them. Kilkenny don't do challenge matches, Kilkenny build from within, and that's what I've been saying to them this year. We need to build from within, build the structures — the players need to build from within. They need to come down here (Croke Park) then and have the confidence to perform. On any given Sunday, anything can happen — the wind can be blowing, the rain can be falling, the ball can break the wrong way, you have to have the bit of luck as well. But Antrim need to consolidate, they need to realise their ambitions, that's a big thing for them. I'm not up there to start again from scratch, to start developing again, I'm up there to build on the work that's been done, to get them competitive.

Positive noises jerry in the examiner today, though reckon Dublin a little ahead but certainly don't fear them.

Think mcmanus best hurler by far and should be centre half back but can we afford him there, Sunday will tell us something, how much in ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 23, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
oisin og who would you want in ??? kearney was certainly worth a try and remember lads at end of the day its all about opinions.  agree with sleeping giant that magee certainly brings something to the panel.  Remember him at school and he was horrible little shit even then.  however he is a talent.  i think its  a good call from jerry and would imagine if kearney starts playing well he would be in if others play poorly.  due to mcgee lack of effort i reckon dd no one and o'connell no 2 and thats all you need on the panel.  young nugent no chance, mctoal just misses out.  don't know much about him but oisin og his own club mate doesn't seem to rate him,  opinion again.  shams the winners as it will give their no 2 a bit of action.

My opinion it should be dd no 1 and RK no 2. They are the 2 most experienced keepers in the county at championship level in Antim.

I have nothing against my own club mate I just dont think he has the experience for inter-county matches at the min
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on February 23, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Just saw on the county website that the match entry is £11 on sunday.

This is £3 more that the football how can the GAA justify this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on February 23, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: oisinog on February 23, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Just saw on the county website that the match entry is £11 on sunday.

This is £3 more that the football how can the GAA justify this

It's because it's a higher level. It costs more to get into a Division One or Two football match than a Division Three one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
see were you are coming from oisin og, but reckon for me its dd, magee, o'connell, mcgarry, johnnies keeper is he now the selector for antrim after that a bit of a toss up.    jerry will have to live by his decisions.

now thats the keeper cleared up who is this sean mclaughling guy, not aware of him and the full forward is relatively new at this level.

also think the extra money is typical GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 23, 2012, 09:11:33 PM
£11.00, sure it's only a packet of fags and a pint.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 23, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
oisin og who would you want in ??? kearney was certainly worth a try and remember lads at end of the day its all about opinions.  agree with sleeping giant that magee certainly brings something to the panel.  Remember him at school and he was horrible little shit even then.  however he is a talent.  i think its  a good call from jerry and would imagine if kearney starts playing well he would be in if others play poorly.  due to mcgee lack of effort i reckon dd no one and o'connell no 2 and thats all you need on the panel.  young nugent no chance, mctoal just misses out.  don't know much about him but oisin og his own club mate doesn't seem to rate him,  opinion again.  shams the winners as it will give their no 2 a bit of action.

Getting a bit personal fellas !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
Antrim +4 for the game against Wexford which is about right. Wexford were beat handy against Offaly (minus any Cooldeery players) in Wexford Park in the Walsh cup. Not a great indication of where they are at but all we have to go by.

Antrim? well I don't know really how we are shaping up, new players and players playing in different positions. I think if we get a good start we could win the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 23, 2012, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 23, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
see were you are coming from oisin og, but reckon for me its dd, magee, o'connell, mcgarry, johnnies keeper is he now the selector for antrim after that a bit of a toss up.    jerry will have to live by his decisions.

now thats the keeper cleared up who is this sean mclaughling guy, not aware of him and the full forward is relatively new at this level.

also think the extra money is typical GAA.
Sean Mc Laughlin from Carey,   fair play on his call up, hope he has improved since i last seen him :-\  JW seems to have catch nets far and wide, giving talents from all clubs there chance, fair play to him.  time will tell, i believe that if the right team was out there, that division is there for the taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2012, 11:54:11 PM
I would love to think so SG but in reality we are behind Limerick Clare And even Offaly - we could by all means finish above one of them but I seriously doubt all three!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2012, 01:43:51 AM
i dont think so,  fully fit and everyone 100% commited to the cause, antrim would be there or there abouts in that company. IMO.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2012, 10:11:53 AM
I would like to think so as well - but our results in black & white suggest otherwise.

Fitness & commitment for me are the same as ability - a lack of each is no excuse.
All counties face the same challenges in terms of fitness and commitment.

Anyway - here's hoping for a good start on Sunday and I would be delighted to be proved wrong!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
I agree, but other counties may well be able to drop some of there better players, for whatever reasons. we need them all there on same page. Bare bones at this level,  is paddy Richmond retired from county.  Some man for edge of square!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2012, 01:47:24 PM
It does seem Paddy has retired - don't think he featured last year either.
Big loss - great man to finish a goal chance - and not replaced by players of the same standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 24, 2012, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2012, 01:47:24 PM
It does seem Paddy has retired - don't think he featured last year either.
Big loss - great man to finish a goal chance - and not replaced by players of the same standard.
Paddy's getting a bit old, less mobile and somewhat rotund.  A good servant and good lad all the same, it really is a pity though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 24, 2012, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 24, 2012, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2012, 01:47:24 PM
It does seem Paddy has retired - don't think he featured last year either.
Big loss - great man to finish a goal chance - and not replaced by players of the same standard.
Paddy's getting a bit old, less mobile and somewhat rotund.  A good servant and good lad all the same, it really is a pity though.
A powerful talent and full of guile but never the athletic type which is what Jerry seems to favour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on February 24, 2012, 11:12:15 PM

A powerful talent and full of guile but never the athletic type which is what Jerry seems to favour.                           

Last man you obviously haven't seen Kevin Sheeran in action.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Paddy R is a gentleman and an excellent hurler. I'd have him on that Antrim team no problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 25, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Paddy R is a gentleman and an excellent hurler. I'd have him on that Antrim team no problem.
I could not agree more SIE.   No disputing PR is a nice lad.  Just getting a bit slow in my reckoning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 25, 2012, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 25, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Paddy R is a gentleman and an excellent hurler. I'd have him on that Antrim team no problem.
I could not agree more SIE.   No disputing PR is a nice lad.  Just getting a bit slow in my reckoning.
Of course lads, it wasnt a character assination but even he would agree that he's not that familiar with the inside of a gym but his talent and cute hooredness made up for that for a long time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
It all started so well for Antrim. A couple of mins ago it was 0-02 to 0-02. 10 mins gone, Antrim 0-02 Wex 1-03. :(

I'm not at it myself, updates here (http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/gaa/87767/) and here (https://twitter.com/#!/bbcchampionship)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 01:48:33 PM
0-05 to 1-04.  Come back on the cards?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 01:52:53 PM
1-06 to 1-04 

Young Shanebo goal!

Now 2-06   K Sheeran goal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:03:30 PM
O'connell save wexford penalty. Nearly half time, 2-06 to 1-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
3-08 to 1-06  K Stewart goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
half time  3-09 to 1-07.  Great stuff!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
3-10 to 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
3-11 - 1-13  getting close again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:47:50 PM
3-13 to 1-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 02:51:58 PM
less than 10 mins to go.  3-14 to 1-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Full time   3-18 - 2-15.  great start to the campaign!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 26, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Full time   3-18 - 2-15.  great start to the campaign!

Great stuff!

Karl Stewart got Man of the Match on South East Radio.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 26, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Full time   3-18 - 2-15.  great start to the campaign!

Great stuff!

Karl Stewart got Man of the Match on South East Radio.

Rightly so, he was tremendous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 26, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2012, 03:03:35 PM
Full time   3-18 - 2-15.  great start to the campaign!

Great stuff!

Karl Stewart got Man of the Match on South East Radio.

Was he number 8? One of the posters thought we were only strong from 1-7 ;)

Brilliant result, Wexford haven't troubled us up here for a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
stewart very good, was late in didn't get programme, would like to have thought a few subs would have been better than the saffron no 10, mclaughlin.  thought Jerry era started well.  Clare will be different kettle of fish next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
stewart very good, was late in didn't get programme, would like to have thought a few subs would have been better than the saffron no 10, mclaughlin.  thought Jerry era started well.  Clare will be different kettle of fish next week

Yeah very surprised he lasted the 70 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 26, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
stewart very good, was late in didn't get programme, would like to have thought a few subs would have been better than the saffron no 10, mclaughlin.  thought Jerry era started well.  Clare will be different kettle of fish next week

Yeah very surprised he lasted the 70 minutes.

With that injury?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 26, 2012, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 26, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
stewart very good, was late in didn't get programme, would like to have thought a few subs would have been better than the saffron no 10, mclaughlin.  thought Jerry era started well.  Clare will be different kettle of fish next week

Yeah very surprised he lasted the 70 minutes.

With that injury?
I think he means McLaughlin MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 26, 2012, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 26, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
stewart very good, was late in didn't get programme, would like to have thought a few subs would have been better than the saffron no 10, mclaughlin.  thought Jerry era started well.  Clare will be different kettle of fish next week

Yeah very surprised he lasted the 70 minutes.

With that injury?
I think he means McLaughlin MR2

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 07:37:12 PM
yes the carey player, think he wasn't up to that level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
i knew he wasnt up to that level,  not his fault.  JW must have seen something in him,   part from the goal how did our new FF do?   great win.  claire and offaly had big wins aswel.  nice test for antrim this league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Sambo was quite prominent on the line.

yes well he is a selector, i noticed him irrate with the carey player quite a few times and goin to wallis for a sub, but i think  the manager is very much his own man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
i see alot of the media are talking about a shock antrim win against wexford.  its a good win no doubt, but hardly shocking.  the next games against clare i feel will decide the team for promotion.  really fancy the saffs for they played around 75% today.  Alot of silly mistakes. SG also felt the full forward and even other half forward were nothing special.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
Good to see Antrim can win big games against teams with 1 or 2 Loughgiel men on the panel. Says a lot about the hurlers in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 09:03:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
Good to see Antrim can win big games against teams with 1 or 2 Loughgiel men on the panel. Says a lot about the hurlers in Antrim.

There are 7 to come back I think .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 09:32:27 PM
7? Was there 7 last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2012, 09:34:18 PM
Barney McAuley and DD are in this year aren't there so should be 2 more??

Watson wasn't about much last year either so maybe 3 more...

Who's the 7? Quinn, O'Connell, Campbell, McAuley, Watson, McCloskey and last one either McGarry or Scullion - presumably the former??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:26:33 PM
i see alot of the media are talking about a shock antrim win against wexford.  its a good win no doubt, but hardly shocking.  the next games against clare i feel will decide the team for promotion.  really fancy the saffs for they played around 75% today.  Alot of silly mistakes. SG also felt the full forward and even other half forward were nothing special.
Nothing against him,  was just asking as I've never seen him,  always thought his team mate magill would do a job in FF for Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 26, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Sambo was quite prominent on the line.

yes well he is a selector, i noticed him irrate with the carey player quite a few times and goin to wallis for a sub, but i think  the manager is very much his own man
The fundamental difference between good managers/selectors is that they don't get irate on the side line.  Maybe thats the good sense in having J Wallis as opposed to that has- been Sambo.  Hopefully JW has the good sense to ignore his sideline antics.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2012, 11:11:22 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 26, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Sambo was quite prominent on the line.

yes well he is a selector, i noticed him irrate with the carey player quite a few times and goin to wallis for a sub, but i think  the manager is very much his own man
The fundamental difference between good managers/selectors is that they don't get irate on the side line.  Maybe thats the good sense in having J Wallis as opposed to that has- been Sambo.  Hopefully JW has the good sense to ignore his sideline antics.  >:( >:(

Yeah more personal attacks, you're a goodin ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 27, 2012, 09:42:26 AM
Everything ok Mr2? You are definitely too touchy and grumpy this weather!

I qualified by statement on 1-7 by including Karl - the point I made was that the defence was strong but I doubted the forwards.

AND I AM DELIGHTED TO HAVE BEEN PROVED WRONG!

The display was that good that I decided to skip the half time pint! I thought Cormac Donnellywas exceptional - a serious hurler that would make any county side. I would give him MOTM but afraid MR2 will start crying about Karl again - who was also magnificant. Neil McAuley also deserves praise. Up front we took more scores than I could have imagined and I think the Antrim dressing room must have been a great place to be.
A smaching start to the year and full praise to all concerned. It really lifted my day and hopefully we will have more like it!

Good points about Sambo also - maybe how the two men carry themselves on the sideline speaks volumes and hopefully Jerry's calm will win over when it comes to the team.

Championship draws tonight then?
Can anyone enlighten us asap?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 27, 2012, 10:01:47 AM
I seen Wallis getting irate at times as well yesterday...I've seen Brian Cody do it as well...Ger Loughnane..Liam Sheedy..as long as they can still make the right decision at the time is the important factor. As suggested here previously there was very few who would have kept McLaughlin on!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 27, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
A very shaky start, but a great win. I think from the first 15 minutes the players were asked to mark spaces rather than men. Players seemed to be looking at the sideline for direction, which to be fair to JW he decided changes needed to be made and players went man to man. Antrim then upped their game. Thought Karl was the pick of the bunch, right place at the right time and his scores came at important times also. Karl just pips Hippy and Neal McAuley who were both excellent.

As regards to Sambo on the sideline, don't think he done anything wrong. If it was Collie McFall showing a small about of displeasure would it be an issue? I heard McLoughlin had showed well in the trials and maybe was worth his chance, but I think the nerves got to him, and he just wasn't fit for it yesterday. I think he shouldn't have been given the second half, and the amount of mistakes he made right in front of the management in the second half was unreal. If you have selectors who are there to agree with a management team the whole time then they are useless. The poor fella should have been saved a bit of embarrassment. Hopefully he gathers himself, works hard at training and learns from it. Antrim have some big games coming up, and barring DD, Watson and Eddie McCloskey, who will be added from that team?

Antrim also need a fit Shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Need to build on this win, be difficult in Ennis for the next match. Fitzy will have them worked up but this Clare team last year were not exactly world beaters.

If the managers and selectors were just standing around and not getting bothered, we'd be annoyed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 27, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
i knew he wasnt up to that level,  not his fault.  JW must have seen something in him,   part from the goal how did our new FF do?   great win.  claire and offaly had big wins aswel.  nice test for antrim this league.
I reckon JW possibly thought taking him off might set the young fella further back, a good man management call that might just pay dividends in the future. Sheerin struggled to impose his usual physical self but i  think he'll improve and if all he does is break more ball for Shane and PJ to hoover up then fair enough.
Thought Karl was immense, and big Cormac gave a text book display. He never squanders posession with a big aimless launch down the field. Young hurlers watch and learn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 27, 2012, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 27, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
i knew he wasnt up to that level,  not his fault.  JW must have seen something in him,   part from the goal how did our new FF do?   great win.  claire and offaly had big wins aswel.  nice test for antrim this league.
I reckon JW possibly thought taking him off might set the young fella further back, a good man management call that might just pay dividends in the future. Sheerin struggled to impose his usual physical self but i  think he'll improve and if all he does is break more ball for Shane and PJ to hoover up then fair enough.
Thought Karl was immense, and big Cormac gave a text book display. He never squanders posession with a big aimless launch down the field. Young hurlers watch and learn.

Didnt make the game yesterday, great result.

On the highlighted part, that was the only part of his game that needed changing and it will be great news for Antrim is he is able to distribute the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 27, 2012, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 27, 2012, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 27, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
i knew he wasnt up to that level,  not his fault.  JW must have seen something in him,   part from the goal how did our new FF do?   great win.  claire and offaly had big wins aswel.  nice test for antrim this league.
I reckon JW possibly thought taking him off might set the young fella further back, a good man management call that might just pay dividends in the future. Sheerin struggled to impose his usual physical self but i  think he'll improve and if all he does is break more ball for Shane and PJ to hoover up then fair enough.
Thought Karl was immense, and big Cormac gave a text book display. He never squanders posession with a big aimless launch down the field. Young hurlers watch and learn.

Didnt make the game yesterday, great result.

On the highlighted part, that was the only part of his game that needed changing and it will be great news for Antrim is he is able to distribute the ball.

I must say his distribution was very good yesterday. His size allows that he pushes off any man coming to close him down to give him that extra second or two to take a look at the forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 27, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 27, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
I see Wallace's father has passed away.

RIP.

From the County Website:

Jerry Wallace Snr RIP

Its with deep regret that we announce the death of Jerry Wallace Snr, father of our Senior County Hurling Manager Jerry. May he rest in peace.
The players and management of the Antrim Senior Hurling team send their deepest sympathies to Jerry at this difficult time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on February 27, 2012, 01:37:06 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 26, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 26, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 26, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Sambo was quite prominent on the line.

yes well he is a selector, i noticed him irrate with the carey player quite a few times and goin to wallis for a sub, but i think  the manager is very much his own man
The fundamental difference between good managers/selectors is that they don't get irate on the side line.  Maybe thats the good sense in having J Wallis as opposed to that has- been Sambo.  Hopefully JW has the good sense to ignore his sideline antics.  >:( >:(

A la 'Babs' & Jim Nelson  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 01:47:09 PM
 ::)


RIP J Wallace snr.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 27, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
Ah go on then!

Someone have a pot-shot at guessing the championship draw - just for the craic!

Dall and the newly crowned All-Ireland champs to be kept apart?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 02:58:24 PM


Naomhgall v Loughgiel - Belfast venue
Ballycastle v Lamh Dhearg  North Antrim venue
Dunloy v Glenariffe - North Antrim venue
Cushendall v Rossa, winners play v St Johns - Ibrox ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
Haha. I was going to post we were due st galls in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
The last two times ya have came away with a 3 point win, I'd say youse will win by 20. All Ireland champions and all that. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 27, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
I love this!

MR2 are you preparing for the worse? Maybe after last year Vs Dunloy & dall the Shamrocks wouldnt like this draw either!Although as all-ireland champions i am sure you guys could compare medals!

As a city man the old firm Rossa St Johns games would always be highlights! Would love to see it this year!
I wonder are they all neutral venues?

If you are accurate MR2 we might have to pay more attention to your posts!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
You and your fellow Belfast poster can say that MR2, I wouldn't dare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 27, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
I love this!

MR2 are you preparing for the worse? Maybe after last year Vs Dunloy & dall the Shamrocks wouldnt like this draw either!Although as all-ireland champions i am sure you guys could compare medals!

As a city man the old firm Rossa St Johns games would always be highlights! Would love to see it this year!
I wonder are they all neutral venues?

If you are accurate MR2 we might have to pay more attention to your posts!

As long as they are a wee bit more accurate than yours ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 27, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 27, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
A very shaky start, but a great win. I think from the first 15 minutes the players were asked to mark spaces rather than men. Players seemed to be looking at the sideline for direction, which to be fair to JW he decided changes needed to be made and players went man to man. Antrim then upped their game. Thought Karl was the pick of the bunch, right place at the right time and his scores came at important times also. Karl just pips Hippy and Neal McAuley who were both excellent.

As regards to Sambo on the sideline, don't think he done anything wrong. If it was Collie McFall showing a small about of displeasure would it be an issue? I heard McLoughlin had showed well in the trials and maybe was worth his chance, but I think the nerves got to him, and he just wasn't fit for it yesterday. I think he shouldn't have been given the second half, and the amount of mistakes he made right in front of the management in the second half was unreal. If you have selectors who are there to agree with a management team the whole time then they are useless. The poor fella should have been saved a bit of embarrassment. Hopefully he gathers himself, works hard at training and learns from it. Antrim have some big games coming up, and barring DD, Watson and Eddie McCloskey, who will be added from that team?

Antrim also need a fit Shorty

no problem about sambo from me colonel, thats what selectors need to do.  want to see shorty as a forward not a midfielder who sits free in front of defence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 27, 2012, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 27, 2012, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 27, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
i knew he wasnt up to that level,  not his fault.  JW must have seen something in him,   part from the goal how did our new FF do?   great win.  claire and offaly had big wins aswel.  nice test for antrim this league.
I reckon JW possibly thought taking him off might set the young fella further back, a good man management call that might just pay dividends in the future. Sheerin struggled to impose his usual physical self but i  think he'll improve and if all he does is break more ball for Shane and PJ to hoover up then fair enough.
Thought Karl was immense, and big Cormac gave a text book display. He never squanders posession with a big aimless launch down the field. Young hurlers watch and learn.

Didnt make the game yesterday, great result.

On the highlighted part, that was the only part of his game that needed changing and it will be great news for Antrim is he is able to distribute the ball.

agree with that, he rebuked him a very agressively at a stage and that was playing on his mind imo so didn't want to take him off and destroy him completey but thats tough on fellow panelists.  hopefully they will get the same chance.  difficult to allow a defender to be shite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
IL say Dall n shamrocks semi!   Dunloy to make an appearance in final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 27, 2012, 06:27:45 PM
Is shouting and ranting at adults from the side line any different than shouting at children???  Has the same impact as I understand it.

Sincere condolences to the Wallis Family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 27, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Sympathies to the Wallace family, RIP

I'll hazard a guess at Championship draw

Dunloy v Loughgiel
Cushendall v Rossa
St Johns v Ballycastle
St Galls v Lamh Dearg/Glenarrife

Been along time since dunloy/Loughgiel/cushendall were on the same side of the draw.

It is random, no seeding involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 27, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Sympathies to the Wallace family, RIP

I'll hazard a guess at Championship draw

Dunloy v Loughgiel
Cushendall v Rossa
St Johns v Ballycastle
St Galls v Lamh Dearg/Glenarrife

Been along time since dunloy/Loughgiel/cushendall were on the same side of the draw.

It is random, no seeding involved?
I think it has been for a few years now max. Would love dall vs Dunloy 1st round.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 27, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 06:32:23 PM
Quote from: maxpower on February 27, 2012, 06:30:22 PM
Sympathies to the Wallace family, RIP

I'll hazard a guess at Championship draw

Dunloy v Loughgiel
Cushendall v Rossa
St Johns v Ballycastle
St Galls v Lamh Dearg/Glenarrife

Been along time since dunloy/Loughgiel/cushendall were on the same side of the draw.

It is random, no seeding involved?
I think it has been for a few years now max. Would love dall vs Dunloy 1st round.   ;D
That would make our progress through the rounds a little bit easier. "Come on the Shamrocks"  ;D

Fantastic result yesterday, even without our contingent. God knows what we will achieve when our lads return.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:44:42 PM
Antrim senior hurling draw 2012:

Prelim: Rossa v Shamrocks 

1/4 finals:

St galls v Cushendall

Dunloy v Ballycastle

St Johns v Lamh Dearg

Rossa/shams v Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Semi finals:

St Galls/Dall vs Dunloy/Ballycastle

Rossa/Shams/Oisins vs St Johns/Lamh dearg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Semi finals:

St Galls/Dall vs Dunloy/Ballycastle

Rossa/Shams/Oisins vs St Johns/Lamh dearg

Shams cakewalk to the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
Good draw for us, happy with that. Cushendall in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2012, 10:13:11 PM
Rossa in city could be tricky!!Would of took that before hand tho. Dunloy v ballycastle will be cracker!   Fancy big cormac and the boys to get to final this year!!   Heard it here first!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 27, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:03:41 PM
Good draw for us, happy with that. Cushendall in Belfast.

is that 100% that Galls and dall play in Belfast, probably casement ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
Hope so, if we are called first I'd like to think so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 27, 2012, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
Hope so, if we are called first I'd like to think so
And yous get Duffy as ref as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 27, 2012, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
Hope so, if we are called first I'd like to think so
And yous get Duffy as ref as well

Has he moved clubs ;)

Wed need a manager first. Could be tempted with that draw lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Semi finals:

St Galls/Dall vs Dunloy/Ballycastle

Rossa/Shams/Oisins vs St Johns/Lamh dearg

Shams cakewalk to the final
I'm sure Rossa don't think that. They could have beaten us last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 27, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Semi finals:

St Galls/Dall vs Dunloy/Ballycastle

Rossa/Shams/Oisins vs St Johns/Lamh dearg

Shams cakewalk to the final
I'm sure Rossa don't think that. They could have beaten us last year.

Professional to a fault SIE, what do the oisins make of that Minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2012, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 27, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 09:49:02 PM
Semi finals:

St Galls/Dall vs Dunloy/Ballycastle

Rossa/Shams/Oisins vs St Johns/Lamh dearg

Shams cakewalk to the final
I'm sure Rossa don't think that. They could have beaten us last year.

Professional to a fault SIE, what do the oisins make of that Minder

Would have preferred Lamh Dhearg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 27, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
Ok here goes (quiet mr2 before u disagree!)

1) dall will beat galls. Mc manus big difference and dall have point to prove.
2) dunloy v town is a cracker - couldn't call it but think time for town.
3) St johns beat lamh dearg in terrible game.
4) Belfast venue won't help Rossa - loughiel will love casement (as all-ireland champs?)

So it's loughiel v dall/castle final.

If it's dall - they will win.
If it's town - shamrocks hat trick.

So that's my humble opinion!
No point playing I have decided everything!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
Agree with everything but the out come of dall loughgiel final ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 27, 2012, 11:11:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
Agree with everything but the out come of dall loughgiel final ;D
One match at a time SG, one match at a time.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RandyRogerCasement on February 27, 2012, 11:50:42 PM
galls v dall=dall
dunloy v castle=dunloy
sham/rossa v oisin=sham
johnnies v dearg= johnnies

dall v sham final.. dall victory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 04:43:58 AM
Shams.......game,set and match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 04:43:58 AM
Shams.......game,set and match.
3 in a row, 3 in a row.   Duffy retiring this year after National League due to work commitments and was shafted at last years final by the dome of delight occupant P. O'C.  - Well that's the word on the street as I have heard.

I have got my hat, scarf, car flags, sandwiches, and transport sorted, just waiting for my tickets on Thursday and the an appointment with Paddy Power - Ulster double on Paddy's day, and Dall to beat St.Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 04:43:58 AM
Shams.......game,set and match.
3 in a row, 3 in a row.   Duffy retiring this year after National League due to work commitments and was shafted at last years final by the dome of delight occupant P. O'C.  - Well that's the word on the street as I have heard.

I have got my hat, scarf, car flags, sandwiches, and transport sorted, just waiting for my tickets on Thursday and the an appointment with Paddy Power - Ulster double on Paddy's day, and Dall to beat St.Galls.

Whats this about?
Can't say I would be sorry - seen him ruin too many games! He thinks everyone is there to watch him not the game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 28, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
Duffy is one of the best referee's about, have alot of time for him and how he talks to the players, shame if he is retiring
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on February 28, 2012, 11:59:34 AM
Draw is interesting, i wouldnt be too sure bout any of those games!Remember: shams only beat rossa by 2. dall only beat galls by 1!
Lamhs will be tough enough against Johns, but i would have to fancy Ballycastle!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
Were ballycastle not very poor last year? I had heard they were - I doubt they'd have come on enough to challenge dunloy??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 12:16:05 PM
I agree with tommygun. I'd fancy Dunloy to be much better this year with Mushy in charge. Probably beat the town with 5 or 6 to spare. McQuillans have a bit to go yet to be serious contenders.

I'll take Cushendall to beat St Galls by something similar, maybe more. It was obvious they hadn't done their homework on the same opposition last year and nearly got caught out. They didn't come to grips with them until the last 15 mins or so. I don't foresee the same thing happening this year.

Johnnies to beat lamh dearg by 3 or 4. I just think they have more quality hurlers where it counts.

I'd fancy us to beat Rossa by 5. We didn't do our prep work properly on them last year either. I can assure you it won't happen again. Oisins, I'm afraid, won't be a force to be reckoned with. Whoever wins between rossa and ourselves should get to the semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 12:16:32 PM
Who's Dunloy??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 28, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
Anybody have the Intermediate and Junior Hurling draws - didnt see any reference to them on twitter (other than the preliminary round of the intermediate)?

I see the Moderator on the Count Website is getting a bit testy again!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
I haven't looked at the county guestbook in months. What's annoying him now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
Maybe instead of answering like a child on the guestbook - the county moderator should spend some time putting all the draws online! And the league fixtures!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 01:22:17 PM
He probably doesn't have them to put up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
But he should have them!

The draws are made so they could go up - and I am sure the league fixtures are later than ever in coming out?!

Although in fairness SIE you are still finishing your season rather than worrying about next!

Just think fixtures should be common knowledge at this stage - not least for guys trying to book holidays / work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on February 28, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
I haven't looked at the county guestbook in months. What's annoying him now?

Glenravel, Davitts and Ardoyne dropped down to the JFC, a lot of people are giving off on the board about how they shouldn't be allowed to do this and he, as usual, is responding in a less than helpful manner. But to be fair it's not his fault they dropped down a level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
Shams are now a far fitter and more focused outfit than they were when they played the Antrim and Ulster finals.
They now have a belief in their own ability that they've been lacking for years. They know that on their day they can beat any club team in Ireland. Unless their main challengers in Antrim and Ulster can match this self belief and high standard of dedication,I can't see them being troubled too much in holding on to their titles, given that the draw has worked out in their favour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 28, 2012, 05:12:05 PM
You make it easy to not like you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 28, 2012, 05:16:16 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 05:01:26 PM
Shams are now a far fitter and more focused outfit than they were when they played the Antrim and Ulster finals.
They now have a belief in their own ability that they've been lacking for years. They know that on their day they can beat any club team in Ireland. Unless their main challengers in Antrim and Ulster can match this self belief and high standard of dedication,I can't see them being troubled too much in holding on to their titles, given that the draw has worked out in their favour.

It's far too early to talk like that. They're not streets ahead of the rest and cushendall will have mcmanus back next year who they missed greatly in the county final.

That belief could all come crashing down post March the 17th too. I hope it doesn't but don't get too carried away with yourself just yet. That kind of talk usually comes back to haunt people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 28, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
think Rossa and oisins would have been a better game with the winner having a little momentum before facing the might of reigning Antrim, Ulster and All-Ireland champions ???? Who knows.  i reckon on any given day rossa and oisins could get close.  Rossa certainly would have a better pedigree against the shams.  got to remember the county final, that game was in the balance for a long time.  However i reckon shams will be different animal this year.

ballycastle to beat dunloy and push Cushendall in a semi final but the Dall to prevail.  with Shams in final.  Again getting a little boring, just like Dunloy and Dall.  But shams to ultimately be victorious.    Though will they even be tested before September..PJ then to get key to the village. 

BTdtgtt  agree about county website and posting draws, the guy gives too much time to lads simply getting a rise out of him. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 28, 2012, 05:21:49 PM
Only voicing my opinion, whether you like me or not. Everybody else is doing it,what do you want me to say?. Is it a crime to say that Loughgiel will win the 2012 Antrim championship,and out lining my reasons why I think it?.
Maybe you want me to say Dunloy or the Dall will win it,I just don't think they will.Best of luck to them if they do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
Well we all know the draw now,   So everyone knows what they have to do,  I'd say all teams deep down will fancy themselves for different reasons.   It's there for the winning!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 28, 2012, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
Maybe instead of answering like a child on the guestbook - the county moderator should spend some time putting all the draws online! And the league fixtures!

are you sure you were never involved with the county administration set up, certainly some administrative set up club or other.  have to a say duffy will be no loss, certainly not a tommy mcintyre type servant.  Interesting that the new expenses structures are coming in as well and duffy is going.  Reckon he love the attention a bit too much.  But got a give the guy credit for putting himself out there.  Still imo thought he was poor.

certainly players and managers should no gaa fixtures to plan holidays.  only a basic courtesy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 06:36:41 PM
No committee rooms not for be saff og!  Maybe one day.

The point about shamrocks now having belief etc in flawed - this is their second year as county champs so they must have had belief last year as well!
And Rossa then the dall pushed them all the way - shamrocks won't get it easy again thus year as I said I think the dall could beat them in another repeat final.

But as you say bushwacker it's all opinions!

Now if we could only find those damn fixtures and dates!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 28, 2012, 06:45:57 PM
btdtgtt seeing as your Duffy's biggest fan that tan of his will be even darker by the time he comes back from Dubai, those fckrs in croke are sending him out in march! You'll not get that in Shaws rd or Corrigan :o Fair Play :'( Money goes to money doesn't it. I will be sorry to him go, his team of umpires and himself take no shit from anyone can't please everyone can you btdtgtt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I would be delighted if it's a one way ticket!

He takes no shit? He is cheeky under the cover of the ref's jersey - look where that left RM!

I am joking of course - about ref violence - not the one way ticket!

Altho I don't know how croke park justify foreign trips whilst clubs all over the land are going bust and struggling to pay to field kids teams - no joke in that. Serious concerns about HQ focus on select few at the expense of grass roots. It will come back to haunt us like it did in soccer.

Phew! Where did I get all that Rant from!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2012, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I would be delighted if it's a one way ticket!

He takes no shit? He is cheeky under the cover of the ref's jersey - look where that left RM!

I am joking of course - about ref violence - not the one way ticket!

Altho I don't know how croke park justify foreign trips whilst clubs all over the land are going bust and struggling to pay to field kids teams - no joke in that. Serious concerns about HQ focus on select few at the expense of grass roots. It will come back to haunt us like it did in soccer.

Phew! Where did I get all that Rant from!

Your hole?

Plenty of posters coming on giving personal opinions about referees and selectors and others that put a lot of time and effort into promoting Gaelic games.

Without these people we wouldn't have them. Plenty of snide remarks coming from people I doubt have lifted a hurl in anger nevermind at club level ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 28, 2012, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2012, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I would be delighted if it's a one way ticket!

He takes no shit? He is cheeky under the cover of the ref's jersey - look where that left RM!

I am joking of course - about ref violence - not the one way ticket!

Altho I don't know how croke park justify foreign trips whilst clubs all over the land are going bust and struggling to pay to field kids teams - no joke in that. Serious concerns about HQ focus on select few at the expense of grass roots. It will come back to haunt us like it did in soccer.

Phew! Where did I get all that Rant from!

Your hole?

Plenty of posters coming on giving personal opinions about referees and selectors and others that put a lot of time and effort into promoting Gaelic games.

Without these people we wouldn't have them. Plenty of snide remarks coming from people I doubt have lifted a hurl in anger nevermind at club level ;D

true mr2 always the voice of reason, congrats on your thread finally reaching 1000 pages, some opinions in those pages, indeed a lot of shite too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 28, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Here Here MR2, congrats is right a major milestone ;)

Quote from: saffronog on February 28, 2012, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
Maybe instead of answering like a child on the guestbook - the county moderator should spend some time putting all the draws online! And the league fixtures!

are you sure you were never involved with the county administration set up, certainly some administrative set up club or other.  have to a say duffy will be no loss, certainly not a tommy mcintyre type servant.  Interesting that the new expenses structures are coming in as well and duffy is going.  Reckon he love the attention a bit too much.  But got a give the guy credit for putting himself out there.  Still imo thought he was poor.

certainly players and managers should no gaa fixtures to plan holidays.  only a basic courtesy

Me thinks you are confusing Garrett Duffy and his nephew Gavin Duffy ??? Or maybe not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on February 28, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I would be delighted if it's a one way ticket!

He takes no shit? He is cheeky under the cover of the ref's jersey - look where that left RM!

I am joking of course - about ref violence - not the one way ticket!

Altho I don't know how croke park justify foreign trips whilst clubs all over the land are going bust and struggling to pay to field kids teams - no joke in that. Serious concerns about HQ focus on select few at the expense of grass roots. It will come back to haunt us like it did in soccer.

Phew! Where did I get all that Rant from!

From your hole no doubt, nothing different than the usual shit that comes out from you on this board, don't take to kindly to your Ref to Ray, that was an absolute disgrace and ASS****s like you have city hurling the way it is today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 28, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
congrats Mr2 on 1000Th page. nice to have a forum without aggressive and snide replies from a condescending moderator. thanks for an alternative for all things Antrim Hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 28, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 28, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
congrats Mr2 on 1000Th page. nice to have a forum without aggressive and snide replies from a condescending moderator. thanks for an alternative for all things Antrim Hurling.

I second that, keep up the good work milltown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 28, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
congrats Mr2 on 1000Th page. nice to have a forum without aggressive and snide replies from a condescending moderator. thanks for an alternative for all things Antrim Hurling.
Although he gives the impression of a spoilt boy, playground bully and suffering from the 'small man syndrome' when things don't go his way or someone else opinion differs.  ;)  Seem like attributes for an administrator on the county web s(h)ite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:27:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on February 28, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Here Here MR2, congrats is right a major milestone ;)

Quote from: saffronog on February 28, 2012, 05:39:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
Maybe instead of answering like a child on the guestbook - the county moderator should spend some time putting all the draws online! And the league fixtures!

are you sure you were never involved with the county administration set up, certainly some administrative set up club or other.  have to a say duffy will be no loss, certainly not a tommy mcintyre type servant.  Interesting that the new expenses structures are coming in as well and duffy is going.  Reckon he love the attention a bit too much.  But got a give the guy credit for putting himself out there.  Still imo thought he was poor.

certainly players and managers should no gaa fixtures to plan holidays.  only a basic courtesy

Me thinks you are confusing Garrett Duffy and his nephew Gavin Duffy ??? Or maybe not?
No, no, no, definitely Garrett.  He is going out to Dubai to stock up on his "just for men" and "scam tan" in preparation for the county final.  A hint of jealousy maybe MIBAG?  U referees are all the same, one upmanship and all that nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 28, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 28, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
congrats Mr2 on 1000Th page. nice to have a forum without aggressive and snide replies from a condescending moderator. thanks for an alternative for all things Antrim Hurling.

I second that, keep up the good work milltown.
3rded
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:36:20 PM
SIE, how much are we paying Dunloy for the use of the hall?  We are back there again on Thursday night. I am sure they are putting the proverbial "arm in".  Hard to believe they wouldn't!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 08:47:58 PM
I wouldn't have a clue sham man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2012, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 28, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
congrats Mr2 on 1000Th page. nice to have a forum without aggressive and snide replies from a condescending moderator. thanks for an alternative for all things Antrim Hurling.
Although he gives the impression of a spoilt boy, playground bully and suffering from the 'small man syndrome' when things don't go his way or someone else opinion differs.  ;)  Seem like attributes for an administrator on the county web s(h)ite.

Spoilt? Very good. Wee man syndrome  ;D ;D yeah that's me.

If you can give opinions that make any sense then go ahead. If you prefer to be a WUM then be my guest. Eventually no one will bother with your Hoganstand posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:36:20 PM
SIE, how much are we paying Dunloy for the use of the hall?  We are back there again on Thursday night. I am sure they are putting the proverbial "arm in".  Hard to believe they wouldn't!

Hard for an imbecile like you maybe. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 08:36:20 PM
SIE, how much are we paying Dunloy for the use of the hall?  We are back there again on Thursday night. I am sure they are putting the proverbial "arm in".  Hard to believe they wouldn't!

Hard for an imbecile like you maybe.
Getting a bit personal mister.  FS chill out.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 10:13:01 PM
Other than an imbecile, help me find an alternative word to describe someone who believed that a club who let out their premises might charge higher rates if their rivals came looking to rent it out?

People of normal intelligence might say fair play to them

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 10:13:01 PM
Other than an imbecile, help me find an alternative word to describe someone who believed that a club who let out their premises might charge higher rates if their rivals came looking to rent it out?

People of normal intelligence might say fair play to them
Dunloy certainly would, they are that type, but don't take my word for it, it's common knowledge.  :o  What makes you think I am of any less intelligence than you? Get a grip, I among others would feel my question was pertinent.  Come on the Shamrocks  ;D ;D ;D :P  Don't get me wrong, there are some really nice people in Dunloy and I know quite a few of them and I am proud to have them as neighbours.  But there is also some bad neighbours.  Regrettably, you're sounding like one of them. But such is life, sure I will live with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
 isnt that what you would call running a buisness or in this case a club?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2012, 10:57:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
isnt that what you would call running a buisness or in this case a club?  :-\
Or taking advantage?  >:(  Getting strange looks from the barman in the Pound here.  I don't think he is happy about using the juice for my laptop, better drink and scarper.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2012, 11:01:22 PM
I wonder have certain posters heard of 'supply and demand' ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 28, 2012, 11:05:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2012, 11:01:22 PM
I wonder have certain posters heard of 'supply and demand' ?
I'm more interested in what sort of juice there is flowing in the pound the night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 11:12:57 PM
Sham...either put up or shut up. Prove to me that my club charge your club more than others clubs

I will be astounded and ashamed if that is the truth. I'm not prepare to accept that you are nothing more than what I have described you as until you back up your comments

Your underage mentors will no doubt be at odds with your view seeing as they have enjoyed our hospitality on many occasions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 11:38:34 PM
Skull it's an unreal set up of which any club in Ireland would be proud of.   Chill out. I'd think he is messing!!   If anything the more you use it the cheaper it is. Most of them things are like that,   Block booking something you get few quid of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2012, 11:40:30 PM
Whoops things have got nasty in my gaa related absence!

Firstly - it's in black&white that I actually write JOKING when referencing both ray Mathews and garret Duffy - I was playing up to a previous post! Jesus lads get a f**kin grip and read the post. And if that ain't enough you can check back on my posts regarding the ray and rasharkin incident - the man is a personal friend of mine (hence I feel able to joke bout it).

Which brings me to the comment on Belfast hurling - my involvement in the game is what has me counting ray as a friend - he reffed games I both played and help him officiate. "the state of city hurling?" check the number if teams in senior championship - Belfast is well represented. Both minor & u21 championships have been in city hands recently. Check underage set ups - Belfast hurling is dominant between Rossa and St johns and now even St endas.

Just because a north Antrim side wins the senior championship this is not the only reflection on hurling status. I think u will find a number of north Antrim clubs struggling down the age groups. However I won't slate any because I know their commitment and passion will bring quality through.

Now just to repeat - my "rant" was about the top heavy focus of croke park on "elite" side of our games at the expense of grass roots.
My referee comments were Tongue in cheek - and that's in black & White.

I am starting to have sympathy for admin on county website!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2012, 11:59:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 28, 2012, 11:38:34 PM
Skull it's an unreal set up of which any club in Ireland would be proud of.   Chill out. I'd think he is messing!!   If anything the more you use it the cheaper it is. Most of them things are like that,   Block booking something you get few quid of

Call your mate out of order rather than focus on my reaction. Nothing implies he is messing so I don't see why I should  think he is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 06:18:10 AM
I've a feeling that this "sham-man" has been around these parts before using a different (several) usernames. The fact is that we will be charged the same as everyone else is. I mean, it doesn't make much commercial sense to be charging clubs different rates than others because they're closer. After all, surely the closer you are to the place, the more you'd be using it, yes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 07:54:37 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 06:18:10 AM
I've a feeling that this "sham-man" has been around these parts before using a different (several) usernames. The fact is that we will be charged the same as everyone else is. I mean, it doesn't make much commercial sense to be charging clubs different rates than others because they're closer. After all, surely the closer you are to the place, the more you'd be using it, yes?

funny you could have posted that last night ...but didn't..........especially if you think this boy is an imposter running down the good name of our club as a supposed lg man? No?


So he's either a shit stirrer (possibly a shit stirring sham imposter) and/or an imbecile from lg doing his club a disservice? Have I a got that right SIE and SG? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 08:11:31 AM
Jesus skull. You aren't half touchy. You seem even more touchy that it's a supposed lg poster. The fact is I did post it. End of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 29, 2012, 08:55:04 AM
Someone resembling an idiot making unfounded allegations about a posters club. Do you think Skull should take it in good spirit or come to the defence of his club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 09:05:33 AM
No argument with defending his club, we all do that, it's his nit-picking about the timing of my post I'm on about. It seems that because I'm a lg man I can do no right with him. Says more about him than me.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 09:18:58 AM
Fact is you did....but you didn't say it when you should have (especially as youve recently stated that you think he's a fraud and was bad mouthing)

you'll be getting splinters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 09:20:58 AM
You might fall down from your high horse if you don't watch. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
It takes time to find things out skull. I've just now been told that lg are training on thursday night in dunloy. So I take it back, he's not an imposter, he's stirring shit and would do us all a favour if he'd cut it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 10:10:16 AM
SIE - do u enviage any changes to the team for Coolderry?

Any info on the opponents?

I hate the hurling being on first - prevents me enjoying the football 'cos it seems so slow afterwards!

I mean - that Croker pitch is able to take the matches no problem at all so surface would be fine for hurling 2nd.

Fingers crossed Ulster double - seems so far away still!

And just for my wind up (tongue firmly in cheek before some start crying)
Will the victory speech thank Dunloy for helping with facilities?!
That really would be salt in the wounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
It takes time to find things out skull. I've just now been told that lg are training on thursday night in dunloy. So I take it back , he's not an imposter, he's stirring shit and would do us all a favour if he'd cut it out.

Good man..shame you couldnt have said that yesterday as it was clear as day that that was exactly what he was doing (for what good I do not know) ....would have saved a bit of bickering ....... but there you go.

At least we're in agreement that he's an imbecile. I'm glad we got bit that sorted out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 11:03:27 AM
Like I said skull, I needed to find things out before I said anything. I'm not in the business of contacting people at 11 o'clock at night for something as inane as this.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
I find it strange that you had to contact somebody before you knew he was shit stirring rather than just knowing it there and then. It was as clear as day. No?

Anyway like I've said, we're sorted it out now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 11:53:26 AM
You're very uptight about this. Let it go Skull. Unlike you, I like to be in the know before I go about name calling or pre judging anyone. You seem to thrive on bickering (especially when lg posters are involved) on things like this, which in the grand scheme of things isn't that important. He's a wum, he hasn't murdered anyone. 

Enough of this nonsense. I've never driven to Croker before, always on a coach. Where is the best place to park if I'm coming from O'Connell street?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 12:11:24 PM
Not sure if Clonliffe College will be open but its safe bet if it is.

Otherwise chance your arm arounf Drumcondra so you can hit the road North.

But be careful travelling in the morning becasue the parade will go down O'Connell St.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 12:17:29 PM
I was thinking of parking up at Whitehall church and dandering down at my leisure. I'm not driving up so I could take a wee break in Quinns on the way down. ;)

I wonder what time the parade is at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 29, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
I just didn't think it had to be stated what he was.   Some muck talked on this from time to time.    Oh.  And Congrats on the 1000 MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 29, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
Info on Coolderry :D.   There forwards are class there backs are there for the taking!  Our backs with massive Job on hands!!  Work rate and hurl like fcuk!!!!!! That's the plan anyways!   Not as a loughgiel man,  but an Ulster double would be unreal on paddys day!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Grand, now can we talk about hurling?

I heard a that the league fixtures are to be finalised this week and published soon enough.

The Championship draw was intertesting but again Loughgiel have been given a handy route to the final again, just my opinion.

The other side of the draw will be tighter, and unlike last year i hope the fixture committie look at the possibility that teams my draw a game, last year teams had to play games very close together which may have had a bearing on the next match.

I'm glad we got one of the big 3 teams in the Championship, it will certainly focus their minds/attitude leading up to the match and i hope they will have come on from last year. Cushendall will be looking to beat Loughgiel in the final as they don't want another losers medal in their back pocket. So all teams should be focused.

St Johns, will the Johnston's be playing for them this year? If they are playing for Rossa it will definitely bring them on a bit, and with them on board would certainly spice up the Loughgiel game in Belfast.

We won't be able to compete for the league this year as we will have a couple of county boys on the football team, this means that they will be away playing for the county (league/championship/friendly/bonding weekends) when hurling games are on. It's my usual rant at the fixtures but what can ya do?

Any dates for the leagues to start?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 01:20:22 PM
Not uptight in the least I can assure you.

So just to summarise

Sham man slanders my club in a post

You reply to your club mates post completely disregarding the very obvious offensive comments made about my club

I call sham man for what he is. If you make comments like that you get the ridicule you deserve.

You make a few witty comments with reference to argument which is great

You ( only after contacting someone???) then agree that he's a shit stirrer.

I call you for not calling sham man for what he was from the outset when it was as clear as day what he was at at the time. You want to ignore this fact but its relevant to our discussion.

All perfectly fair and valid as far as I'm concerned. I have a right to call sham man for his comments made and a right to question why you chose not to at the time. He's your club mate after all and is doing your reputation no good acting the b*llocks like he is/was.

Maybe you're worried you might be involved in the first row in the pound on paddies night if you say too much?  :)

I know it doesnt suit what you might want to believe, but have a look at my post history and I think you'll find I have a dislike for assholes making comments like these, regardless of where they're from.

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10 and relax


I'm over it now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
That's hilarious. I wasn't sure if he was a club mate or not. Tbh, I'm still not sure, but it looks like he is. And if you knew me you'd know I wouldn't be one bit wary of stepping into the pound any night of the week. You're a nit picker with a not so well hidden dislike of lg. Pure and simple. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Couple of points - Coolderry forwards are good? I am still hopeful for Loughiel - I rarely see the likes of JC and Neilly giving much away - maybe Barney could drop back also if needed what do you think?

MR2 - I couldnt agree more on the loss of players to county teams (regardless of code they are never about the club setup)- but in fairness St Gallls are not on their own here.

As for the Johnstons - they will certainly not be at Rossa next year. The topic cause a bit of a stir during their "farewell to Rossa House" and there was no welcome mat on show.

As for the league fixtures - they really seem to be top secret! I have not found anyone who even knows the start dates!Cannot for the life me understand why they are so late - its really not good for boys looking to plan ahead or generating interest. Typical!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 29, 2012, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 29, 2012, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
As for the Johnstons - they will certainly not be at Rossa next year. The topic cause a bit of a stir during their "farewell to Rossa House" and there was no welcome mat on show.

That was always on the cards.

Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
I wouldn't be sure Rossa would take them.

You can't stir up venomous bullshit about a club for years and then expect them to welcome you with open arms when you throw your toys out of the pram at your own club.

+1

What are the plans for Rossa now? Is there any particular reason why they sol their club, surely if they had this in their heads as a club, ten years ago was the time to do it and cash in and build some solid foundations going forward. Or were there other matters at work?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 29, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 29, 2012, 02:11:21 PM
I think the bar was still making money 10 years ago, Nag. That trade is as dead as Hector these days. They started by closing during the week and then finally decided to wind it up completely.

The plan is to develop Shaws Road, I think, but nobody has heard anything concrete.

Do they still have the handball alley up in the Shaws Road?

There's not much ground behind those goals to do much with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 29, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
Yes coolderry forwards are very good,   I dont no much about there centre half and full forward,  but there 2 corner and half forwards are very good.  IMO.     Well give it a shot!! See what happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 11:53:26 AM
You're very uptight about this. Let it go Skull. Unlike you, I like to be in the know before I go about name calling or pre judging anyone. You seem to thrive on bickering (especially when lg posters are involved) on things like this, which in the grand scheme of things isn't that important. He's a wum, he hasn't murdered anyone. 

Enough of this nonsense. I've never driven to Croker before, always on a coach. Where is the best place to park if I'm coming from O'Connell street?
Well said SIE and thanks.  So for the paranoids, begrudgers and doubters, I will put the record straight. Firstly,  I am a LG man and very proud to be so, of that there is no doubt. Secondly, I have never been on the GAA Board previously and just thought it time that I did join up to bolster the good name of my own club LG. It appeared to me that my Club and fellow club men such as SIE,SG, Bushwacker etc, were frequently being lambasted, ridiculed and verbally attacked by legendary posters on the Antrim GAA Board.  Some of them I may add, appear as legends in their own time, but sure wasn't Hitler and Saddam legends also! Enough said I think.

And lastly, having read back over a lot of the posts on this forum and having looked closely at postings by key contributors/founder members, hero members etc, I get a very clear sense there are those who can post/say anything agin others with total impunity, yet  other posters are very promptly checked/chastised on the comments and contributions. Now I ask myself, is that fair at all, well not in my book. So I will continue to defend my fellow LG men, my club and my parish.  If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)  Here ends the gospel of Sham Man.  Come on the Shams  ;) :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on February 29, 2012, 03:26:53 PM
The deaf college is usually a handy place to park when going to croke park, only maybe a 10 minute walk to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:29:17 PM
Thanks magicsponge, I'll look into it when I get home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.

Well said SIE and thanks.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 29, 2012, 03:53:07 PM
So what is the story with the Johnstons are they transferring or not, and if not Rossa would they go to another club.  Quality players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I'm sure many Rossa wans are wary of this potential trojan horse/poisoned chalice. Jonty seems to have a way of being that rubs people up the wrong way, although I've no personal experience I've heard the odd story or two. Has been able to develop some serious talent but keeps finding himself in the middle of controversy far too often for it always to be someone elses fault. While he might in the early stages show deference to the club I doubt it would be long before he would start imposing himself. Hard to know how that would work out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 29, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I'm sure many Rossa wans are wary of this potential trojan horse/poisoned chalice. Jonty seems to have a way of being that rubs people up the wrong way, although I've no personal experience I've heard the odd story or two. Has been able to develop some serious talent but keeps finding himself in the middle of controversy far too often for it always to be someone elses fault. While he might in the early stages show deference to the club I doubt it would be long before he would start imposing himself. Hard to know how that would work out

I have a fair idea  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on February 29, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
The Johnstons transfer never actually got to the stage where Rossa got to say yes or no either way. St Johns had an EGM last week and decided not to sign the transfer forms.

Think the Da might be taking Rossa camogs this year so there's potential that this may rumble on for a while longer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on February 29, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
The Johnstons transfer never actually got to the stage where Rossa got to say yes or no either way. St Johns had an EGM last week and decided not to sign the transfer forms.

Think the Da might be taking Rossa camogs this year so there's potential that this may rumble on for a while longer

funny ..when I read that the first time I thought you'd said the Johnstons had an EGM last week. Somehow made sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on February 29, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Grand, now can we talk about hurling?

I heard a that the league fixtures are to be finalised this week and published soon enough.

The Championship draw was intertesting but again Loughgiel have been given a handy route to the final again, just my opinion.

The other side of the draw will be tighter, and unlike last year i hope the fixture committie look at the possibility that teams my draw a game, last year teams had to play games very close together which may have had a bearing on the next match.

I'm glad we got one of the big 3 teams in the Championship, it will certainly focus their minds/attitude leading up to the match and i hope they will have come on from last year. Cushendall will be looking to beat Loughgiel in the final as they don't want another losers medal in their back pocket. So all teams should be focused.

St Johns, will the Johnston's be playing for them this year? If they are playing for Rossa it will definitely bring them on a bit, and with them on board would certainly spice up the Loughgiel game in Belfast.

We won't be able to compete for the league this year as we will have a couple of county boys on the football team, this means that they will be away playing for the county (league/championship/friendly/bonding weekends) when hurling games are on. It's my usual rant at the fixtures but what can ya do?

Any dates for the leagues to start?

from reading your post i wonder can you answer this question MR2, only really know about hurling leagues and that side of thing. 

St Gall's as a dual club and how you mighten fancy winning the hurling league div 2 this year? kind of surprised me.

so the dual player i.e. Stewart and McCourty (county corner back)  They play for both st galls senior in football and hurling, would they miss many games for hurlers due to this dual status.  Or if it was a st galls county footballer who also plays with Galls senior hurling team, if he was 100% genuine will he still miss many games with galls hurlers because of antrim footballers. 

What would be roughly the no of galls seniors who play for both hurling and football teams

as for the league fixtures the sooner the better.  talking to a rossa man who is worried they'll get oisins or galls first game of season, especially if its the oisins away.  Massive games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
Quote from: saffronog on February 29, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Grand, now can we talk about hurling?

I heard a that the league fixtures are to be finalised this week and published soon enough.

The Championship draw was intertesting but again Loughgiel have been given a handy route to the final again, just my opinion.

The other side of the draw will be tighter, and unlike last year i hope the fixture committie look at the possibility that teams my draw a game, last year teams had to play games very close together which may have had a bearing on the next match.

I'm glad we got one of the big 3 teams in the Championship, it will certainly focus their minds/attitude leading up to the match and i hope they will have come on from last year. Cushendall will be looking to beat Loughgiel in the final as they don't want another losers medal in their back pocket. So all teams should be focused.

St Johns, will the Johnston's be playing for them this year? If they are playing for Rossa it will definitely bring them on a bit, and with them on board would certainly spice up the Loughgiel game in Belfast.

We won't be able to compete for the league this year as we will have a couple of county boys on the football team, this means that they will be away playing for the county (league/championship/friendly/bonding weekends) when hurling games are on. It's my usual rant at the fixtures but what can ya do?

Any dates for the leagues to start?

from reading your post i wonder can you answer this question MR2, only really know about hurling leagues and that side of thing. 

St Gall's as a dual club and how you mighten fancy winning the hurling league div 2 this year? kind of surprised me.

so the dual player i.e. Stewart and McCourty (county corner back)  They play for both st galls senior in football and hurling, would they miss many games for hurlers due to this dual status.  Or if it was a st galls county footballer who also plays with Galls senior hurling team, if he was 100% genuine will he still miss many games with galls hurlers because of antrim footballers. 

What would be roughly the no of galls seniors who play for both hurling and football teams

as for the league fixtures the sooner the better.  talking to a rossa man who is worried they'll get oisins or galls first game of season, especially if its the oisins away.  Massive games.

Potentially we could have a number of players who can play hurling for the senior team, but due to commitment to the county over the years this has waned and we have lost them. The players currently would be Aidso Gallagher and Anto Healy. both great hurlers and when the county play county football they usuall have hurling games on. over the years we have had CJ and Kevin who have played for the seniors, Andy McLean was possibly our best player the year we held Loughgiel at Casement to 3 points in the County Semi final.

These lads have only played a few games over the years for the club in the league, this is the problem for us in promotion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:50:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Couple of points - Coolderry forwards are good? I am still hopeful for Loughiel - I rarely see the likes of JC and Neilly giving much away - maybe Barney could drop back also if needed what do you think?

MR2 - I couldnt agree more on the loss of players to county teams (regardless of code they are never about the club setup)- but in fairness St Gallls are not on their own here.

As for the Johnstons - they will certainly not be at Rossa next year. The topic cause a bit of a stir during their "farewell to Rossa House" and there was no welcome mat on show.

As for the league fixtures - they really seem to be top secret! I have not found anyone who even knows the start dates!Cannot for the life me understand why they are so late - its really not good for boys looking to plan ahead or generating interest. Typical!
St. Johns is St. Johns and Rossa is Rossa.  Just Like Loughgiel is Loughgiel and Dunloy is Dunloy.  Would you really want to co-habit?  Not if we are being honest.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on February 29, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on February 29, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
The Johnstons transfer never actually got to the stage where Rossa got to say yes or no either way. St Johns had an EGM last week and decided not to sign the transfer forms.

Think the Da might be taking Rossa camogs this year so there's potential that this may rumble on for a while longer

I am quite sure that is incorrect, as the players themselves decided they would not be moving
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 29, 2012, 06:24:05 PM
So in a nutshell the jonty's threatened to leave St johns but didn't - which us just as well because Rossa didn't want them anyway. Glad we got that straight!

One note on the dual players problem - mostly affects Belfast teams (I appreciate my bias here esp dunloy/aghohill) and nit just in terms of losing players for matches. Training is a no go - and pitch access is a problem when sharing between both codes at all levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: the colonel on February 29, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on February 29, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
The Johnstons transfer never actually got to the stage where Rossa got to say yes or no either way. St Johns had an EGM last week and decided not to sign the transfer forms.

Think the Da might be taking Rossa camogs this year so there's potential that this may rumble on for a while longer

I am quite sure that is incorrect, as the players themselves decided they would not be moving
I just hope for the two lads sake that common sense will prevail and they continue with their hurling.  Remember, this is children/young men we are dealing with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???


No No please dont do that ....... A simple yes/no will make it easier on all of us

Are you going to apologise for your slanderous comments regarding how Dunloy charge for the use of their facilities?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 29, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.

Well said SIE and thanks.   ;)
So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???

Is there any way we could banish this clown, between cringing for him and laughing, hes starting to get rather tedious. SIE you got to admit hes a bit em barresing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 29, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.

Well said SIE and thanks.   ;)
So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???

Is there any way we could banish this clown, between cringing for him and laughing, hes starting to get rather tedious. SIE you got to admit hes a bit em barresing
I'm not interested nah. Nothing all to do with me. Maybe if he was ignored he might go away, or something.

Nice handy draw for yous in the minor hurling MR2.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 29, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.

Well said SIE and thanks.   ;)
So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???

Is there any way we could banish this clown, between cringing for him and laughing, hes starting to get rather tedious. SIE you got to admit hes a bit em barresing
I'm not interested nah. Nothing all to do with me. Maybe if he was ignored he might go away, or something.

Nice handy draw for yous in the minor hurling MR2.
What sort of an (LG) individual are you, turning your back on your own?   I must tell the boys in The Pound  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
I'm not interested nah. Nothing all to do with me. Maybe if he was ignored he might go away, or something.

Nice handy draw for yous in the minor hurling MR2.
What sort of an (LG) individual are you, turning your back on your own?   I must tell the boys in The Pound  ;)
???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 29, 2012, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
You could put Sham Man in the Dumb college ;) He'd fit in there alright
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 29, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
They'd only talk about him.

Well said SIE and thanks.   ;)
So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???

Is there any way we could banish this clown, between cringing for him and laughing, hes starting to get rather tedious. SIE you got to admit hes a bit em barresing
I'm not interested nah. Nothing all to do with me. Maybe if he was ignored he might go away, or something.

Nice handy draw for yous in the minor hurling MR2.
What sort of an (LG) individual are you, turning your back on your own?   I must tell the boys in The Pound  ;)

Is that an accurate description?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on February 29, 2012, 10:02:23 PM
Do you all actually think this guy is from LG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 10:04:55 PM
Bog Ash Caman?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 29, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
To start with I have never ever seen anyone in pound with a laptop. ;D   MR2 I think you might have it in one!!!   2nd time today someone has mentioned Bog Ash.  A certain inside man done his home work well;). 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
Give enough rope..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on February 29, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
This thread of posting is getting extremely boring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 11:04:13 PM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrRMIM1ygKpg&v=rRMIM1ygKpg&gl=GB  (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrRMIM1ygKpg&v=rRMIM1ygKpg&gl=GB)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 11:39:17 PM

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Message by Bog Ash Camam on September 28, 2011, 08:47:47 PM »
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
And where would this bogash fellow be from then?

Bog (the Bog meadows) Ash camán

I'm guessing he's a Galls hurler, or is he?
I like the way your thinking Milltown, but nah, sorry!
 
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Did you not suggest your friend Bog Ash Caman  was a Galls man like yourself?  Well, as I said not everyone in Loughgiel is brave enough to go into the Pound.  I for one am and is always made welcome.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 29, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 29, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Grand, now can we talk about hurling?
I heard a that the league fixtures are to be finalised this week and published soon enough.

The Championship draw was intertesting but again Loughgiel have been given a handy route to the final again, just my opinion.

The other side of the draw will be tighter, and unlike last year i hope the fixture committie look at the possibility that teams my draw a game, last year teams had to play games very close together which may have had a bearing on the next match.

I'm glad we got one of the big 3 teams in the Championship, it will certainly focus their minds/attitude leading up to the match and i hope they will have come on from last year. Cushendall will be looking to beat Loughgiel in the final as they don't want another losers medal in their back pocket. So all teams should be focused.

St Johns, will the Johnston's be playing for them this year? If they are playing for Rossa it will definitely bring them on a bit, and with them on board would certainly spice up the Loughgiel game in Belfast.

We won't be able to compete for the league this year as we will have a couple of county boys on the football team, this means that they will be away playing for the county (league/championship/friendly/bonding weekends) when hurling games are on. It's my usual rant at the fixtures but what can ya do?

Any dates for the leagues to start?

Lets try.

Looking at the draw L'giel, on paper, could have a potentially tricky opening tie against Rossa going on last year but if they do manage to get by Rossa i cant see anything stopping them from getting to the final then.

As for the other side of the draw its hard to look by C'dall. Not only have they lost 3 finals in a row they have been in 6 out of the last 7 finals. Throw in the fact that they must be looking at L'giel thinking "that could be us" given the position they were in with 11/12 mins to go in last years county final, they dont need any more motivation for this year than that. Of course St Galls wont be easy for them in the quarters but im sure they will be up for that given the warning they got last year.

Finally Dunloy will be massive favourites against Ballycastle; hopefully we can keep the ball pucked out to them!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 01, 2012, 05:57:48 PM
bit of a long shot but i am predicting a championship with lots of surprises next year but ultimately it will be a final contested by two of the powerhouses in antrim hurling. maybe the two with the most championship wins, would need to read up a little to ensure that statement is 100% correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 01, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Jaysus boys, some queue for tickets. Unreal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.  U should keep ur kind of bullying for the school playground. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.

Yeah course they did ;) but if you ever played hurling before you'd know that  ;D ;D  thanks again for the photo ya eejit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Do you want the row and section number of my tickets in the Cussack also?  Come on over and introduce yourself if you will, but I doubt very much that you would have the b***s.  And yeah, I played Div 1/Championship Hurling for years, can you say the same as a Galls man, and played for the county also. Can you meet the same credentials? And by all accounts you wont be at the game, ur finishing off ur biography " How to fail miserably at Croke Park in February" - least said I think.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Do you want the row and section number of my tickets in the Cussack also?  Come on over and introduce yourself if you will, but I doubt very much that you would have the b***s.  And yeah, I played Div 1/Championship Hurling for years, can you say the same as a Galls man, and played for the county also. Can you meet the same credentials?

What are you on tonight?  FFS wind your neck in will ya?

Na fcuk it, keep her light Sham Man. Ya might not make the final at this rate, heart attack on it's way ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Do you want the row and section number of my tickets in the Cussack also?  Come on over and introduce yourself if you will, but I doubt very much that you would have the b***s.  And yeah, I played Div 1/Championship Hurling for years, can you say the same as a Galls man, and played for the county also. Can you meet the same credentials?

What are you on tonight?  FFS wind your neck in will ya?

Na fcuk it, keep her light Sham Man. Ya might not make the final at this rate, heart attack on it's way ;D
Cool as a Cucumber here lad  8) 8) 8) 8) 8). I'll be there, have no fear.  Come on the Shamrocks  ;)  Sound familiar?

"I'm not going to back a winner in the is game, I'm going for a high scoring game. Over so many points. Paddy Power don't have that bet up yet but will have no doubt closer to the day".

"Should be a cracking game. I won't be at it, as my Paddy's day (bar our own involvement) is spent at the club, pints, food (usually stew) more pints, then the games. I believe Ireland play England at 5!!! Bed for 7 no doubt"  I'm amazed Milltown and you such an avid hurling man, supporter of Antrim hurling and staying in the Row watching the Rugby, FFS!

This fcukin night shift is doing my head in, got to speak to the boss and get the Friday and Monday off. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2012, 12:05:16 AM
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Lobotomy_side_effects_5_to_10_years_later  (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Lobotomy_side_effects_5_to_10_years_later)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 02, 2012, 12:27:14 AM
Mr2 are you getting a picture of what we have been going through for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2012, 12:30:25 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2012, 12:35:22 AM
Don't tar us all with the one brush!!   Everyone has them :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 02, 2012, 01:17:35 AM
Loughgiel played well in the semi-final.But i get the feeling that they may have just played there final.Anyhow another season begins and having seen the draws think we could have some excellent games.I particularly like the look of the Dunloy v Ballycastle game. Also i think St. Kevins would be worth watching in the U21 as they have serious quality in the team and if they can get it moulded together would threaten.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2012, 03:11:48 AM
I said when I heard draw I fancied ballycastle to put up a big show this year. Them and dall semi would be tasty affair!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 01, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Jaysus boys, some queue for tickets. Unreal!
Just back myself, stood for 1hr 10 mins, powerful amount of people. Wee Franny and Seán will be there all night with the Croker people. Powerful altogether and saving a few euro at the same time.   SIE, How can I add a pic to prove my Bonni Fides?  Come on the SHAMROCKs.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6798731440_5718904035_m.jpg(//)

I was also talking to Hugh ******** tonight, he said the same about Duffy retiring after the National League. Again, u heard it here first.  I don't believe that shit that he is going to Abu Dhabi, he would be above that standard, they should send Elliott instead or the wee Derry fella.

I'm no Columbo and this is only an observation "Sham Man" but ...

The loughgiel website stated the tickets were only available for sale from 7-9pm (Perhaps someone from loughgiel can confirm this).

The tickets were also advertised on the north antrim website from 8pm.

It took you 1 hr 10 mins getting your tickets and you only got home @ 9:50pm

Something doesn't add up ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2012, 12:36:38 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA   brilliant ;D    the plot gets thicker ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 02, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
Also read in ydays Irish News that the winners on Ballycastle and St Johns in the McAuley cup play loughgiel?I didnt think lgiel would be enterig the competition with it so close to the final?A second string will be put out i presume?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
You are what you are regardless of where your actually from. When you hear people from your club saying "every club has them" (and that is true) ..... now you know it's people like you they're talking about. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 02:31:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 02, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
You are what you are regardless of where your actually from. When you hear people from your club saying "every club has them" (and that is true) ..... now you know it's people like you they're talking about.
I take it your are Dunloy's?  For goodness sake, wise up, the Paranoia will catch up with you both.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on March 02, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
Also read in ydays Irish News that the winners on Ballycastle and St Johns in the McAuley cup play loughgiel?I didnt think lgiel would be enterig the competition with it so close to the final?A second string will be put out i presume?
Quote from: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 01, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Jaysus boys, some queue for tickets. Unreal!
Just back myself, stood for 1hr 10 mins, powerful amount of people. Wee Franny and Seán will be there all night with the Croker people. Powerful altogether and saving a few euro at the same time.   SIE, How can I add a pic to prove my Bonni Fides?   Come on the SHAMROCKs.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/6798731440_5718904035_m.jpg(//)

I was also talking to Hugh ******** tonight, he said the same about Duffy retiring after the National League. Again, u heard it here first.  I don't believe that shit that he is going to Abu Dhabi, he would be above that standard, they should send Elliott instead or the wee Derry fella.

I'm no Columbo and this is only an observation "Sham Man" but ...

The loughgiel website stated the tickets were only available for sale from 7-9pm (Perhaps someone from loughgiel can confirm this).

The tickets were also advertised on the north antrim website from 8pm.

It took you 1 hr 10 mins getting your tickets and you only got home @ 9:50pm

Something doesn't add up ...
Columbo, ur definitely not, Sure didn't I stop off to deliver tickets, get paid and call in for a quick one in the Pound before heading up the Corkey. DuH!

I know quite a few of the loughgiel officials but no one by the name of Seán??

It would appear to me that you are making foolish efforts to prove you are associated with a club you clearly aren't!

I will continue to follow Columbo's investigative style to solve this mystery!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on March 02, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
What a goat!

I often come to this site and read info to (lets be honest) get some sound inside track!  But this clown is out there!

Fair play MR2 - he probably did play senior hurling and championship, and county.

But every club has those village puddins that they throw on the last couple of minutes because no one has the heart to drop him from the panel, after he was at every training session, messing up every single drill!

Bets are he isnt a sham at all!  I have a sneaky suspicion he is belfast! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 03:56:12 PM
"Sham Man" - I have been in touch with a friend from loughgiel and have a few questions that you should know the answers to:

The "Are you really from loughgiel?" quiz!

1) Name the loughgiel officials that controlled the flow of traffic to the ticket office.

2) Name the tellers from loughgiel that were with the ticket operators from Croke Park.

3) Both Croke Park officials were female - true or false?

4) The dart board in the pound bar is errected beside a photo of which loughgiel championship winning team?

5) What message does the "banner "outside the pound bar read? (I am informed as you are from corkey you drive past this on a regular basis).

Tick tock ... tick tock ...


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2012, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 29, 2012, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 29, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
If I post something which may prove somewhat sensitive, I will humbly apologise to those whom it offends.  Beyond that, I stand by what I say, end of.  :)

Proving my point right there. Perhaps someone could decipher the meaning of it. I presume putting up or shutting up has nothing to do with it.

Aye sure, thas nae a problem Mr. Skull.  Sure I was just jossing you a little. No real offence intended.

So, enlighten me Skull, what exactly is your problem?  Do you wish that I re-iterate what I said?  ???


No No please dont do that ....... A simple yes/no will make it easier on all of us

Are you going to apologise for your slanderous comments regarding how Dunloy charge for the use of their facilities?

Even answering a simple yes/no question was beyond your capabilities.

The other lg contributers have rightly decided to distance themselves from your ramblings. That should tell you all you need to know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 03:56:12 PM
"Sham Man" - I have been in touch with a friend from loughgiel and have a few questions that you should know the answers to:

The "Are you really from loughgiel?" quiz!

1) Name the loughgiel officials that controlled the flow of traffic to the ticket office.

2) Name the tellers from loughgiel that were with the ticket operators from Croke Park.

3) Both Croke Park officials were female - true or false?

4) The dart board in the pound bar is errected beside a photo of which loughgiel championship winning team?

5) What message does the "banner "outside the pound bar read? (I am informed as you are from corkey you drive past this on a regular basis).

Tick tock ... tick tock ...
FFS, now let this be the end of it.

1.  No one was controlling the car park when I was there. Do you want the time i arrived and left?

2. Franny and Seán. I got my tickets of the Croke Park offical to the immediate left of Franny.  Franny was sitting on the far RHS. Do you want the temperature in the toilets?

3. False, both male.  (Although, they only looked male) Do you want their names and telephone numbers.

4. I don't play darts, I swing ash.

5. Good luck Bhoys.

Now fcukin leave will ya.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 04:58:17 PM
Test Results

1.  No one was controlling the car park when I was there. Do you want the time i arrived and left? (Nice deflection of the question by playing on the use of the word "traffic" - you obviously can't name the officials who controlled the queue.

2. Franny and Seán. I got my tickets of the Croke Park offical to the immediate left of Franny.  Franny was sitting on the far RHS. Do you want the temperature in the toilets? (Half a point but you have failed to name your other fellow club member that was on the other side with the FEMALE croke park official)

3. False, both male.  (Although, they only looked male) Do you want their names and telephone numbers. (One Female LHS, one Male RHS)

4. I don't play darts, I swing ash. (Again, another deflection - surely you should have know the most famous championship winning team to date!)

5. Good luck Bhoys. (Good GUESS but wrong again!)

Case closed!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
(http://bokertov.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/15/columbo_just_one_more_thing.gif)

What colour do Loughgiel play in?   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 04:58:17 PM
Test Results

1.  No one was controlling the car park when I was there. Do you want the time i arrived and left? (Nice deflection of the question by playing on the use of the word "traffic" - you obviously can't name the officials who controlled the queue. Then be specific - Big John

2. Franny and Seán. I got my tickets of the Croke Park offical to the immediate left of Franny.  Franny was sitting on the far RHS. Do you want the temperature in the toilets? (Half a point but you have failed to name your other fellow club member that was on the other side with the FEMALE croke park official) I did not look at who was on the other side, I was directed towards Franny.[/color]

3. False, both male.  (Although, they only looked male) Do you want their names and telephone numbers. (One Female LHS, one Male RHS) As I said, I was not focused on th efar left of the table.[/color]

4. I don't play darts, I swing ash. (Again, another deflection - surely you should have know the most famous championship winning team to date!) Sure the world and its mother knows that, for goodness sake.  But i still don't play darts.[/color]

5. Good luck Bhoys. (Good GUESS but wrong again!) The other says - Come on the Shamrocks

Case closed!
What about the little Jukebox on top of the chest in the entrance hall where the scarves, hats, flags, car flags and CDs were being sold.  The new curtains hanging on the walls in the main hall.  Enough said.  I am off to work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 02, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
Have you ever owned (or desired) a "Twin Cam"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2012, 05:29:49 PM
Have you ever drank still in a certain house in Glenbush?

Have you ever swam (dived) in pol mor?

Have you ever sworn on the autotrader?




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
4. I don't play darts, I swing ash. (Again, another deflection - surely you should have know the most famous championship winning team to date!) Sure the world and its mother knows that, for goodness sake.  But i still don't play darts.[/color]

(This was the trick question - apparently the pound does not have any photos errected of a championship winning team or a dart board for that matter :)!)

You have convinced me you were in loughgiel though, but as an outsider ... this would explain the flag in the photo with the tickets and a fairly detailed describtion of the club rooms (perhaps loughgiel posters can confirm if this is correct)

Over to the loughgiel posters to check with the flag sellers (if there were any) or if you spotted any "outsiders" ....

My work is done!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 02, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
Jesus wept, this clown is getting some airtime I thought we all going to ignore him. no need for cross questioning just drive up into the village and ask ten people who they think the biggest idiot in loughgeil is and you have a name as they say in American detective dramas. Or ask someone in the pound who gets burst everytime he opens his mouth and you have your man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 02, 2012, 06:56:03 PM
Let's finish this pointless argument.For those not involved it's extremely boring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 02, 2012, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 02, 2012, 06:56:03 PM
Let's finish this pointless argument.For those not involved it's extremely boring.

For real.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 02, 2012, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 02, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
Have you ever owned (or desired) a "Twin Cam"?
;D That's the ultimate test right there.

Have you ever owned (or desired) any Garth Brooks labelled apparel?
Have you ever told anyone in a pub how many sticks you broke in a match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 02, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 02, 2012, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 02, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
Have you ever owned (or desired) a "Twin Cam"?
;D That's the ultimate test right there.

Have you ever owned (or desired) any Garth Brooks labelled apparel?
Have you ever told anyone in a pub how many sticks you broke in a match?

twin cam way to classy, this guys has to drive a Peugeot 306 D lowered to an inch of the ground with tinted windows and black smoke everywhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 02, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
4. I don't play darts, I swing ash. (Again, another deflection - surely you should have know the most famous championship winning team to date!) Sure the world and its mother knows that, for goodness sake.  But i still don't play darts.[/color]

(This was the trick question - apparently the pound does not have any photos errected of a championship winning team or a dart board for that matter :)!)

You have convinced me you were in loughgiel though, but as an outsider ... this would explain the flag in the photo with the tickets and a fairly detailed describtion of the club rooms (perhaps loughgiel posters can confirm if this is correct)

Over to the loughgiel posters to check with the flag sellers (if there were any) or if you spotted any "outsiders" ....

My work is done!
Now your sucking diesel, that's why I said I don't play Darts and that's how I caught you out - "apparently the Pound does not have pictures or a dart board"  -  So what part of Loughgiel are you not from? There was quite a number of people there last night who were not from Loughgiel, actually seen a few from far off places as well and neighbouring villages, who shall remain nameless!  Seems like I have stimulated the interest of other newbies like mysel in recent days.  Maybe Minder, Skull, MR2 & Co have started a  new recruitment drive to attract further Loughgiel bashers.  Time will tell. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
SIE, are you heading down with the lads in the morning to Dublin?  I am if I can get away from here early enough.  Should be a good run out for the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2012, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
SIE, are you heading down with the lads in the morning to Dublin?
No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on March 03, 2012, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 02, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
SIE, are you heading down with the lads in the morning to Dublin?  I am if I can get away from here early enough.  Should be a good run out for the lads.

Sham man - sure you don't have to get up as early, its only about 100 miles from Miltown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 03, 2012, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 02, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 02, 2012, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on March 02, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
Have you ever owned (or desired) a "Twin Cam"?
;D That's the ultimate test right there.

Have you ever owned (or desired) any Garth Brooks labelled apparel?
Have you ever told anyone in a pub how many sticks you broke in a match?

twin cam way to classy, this guys has to drive a Peugeot 306 D lowered to an inch of the ground with tinted windows and black smoke everywhere
I actually seen a wee blue one of these scooting about Dunloy this morning!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 03, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Friendly result;

LG 4-23

Wexford u21s  3-21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: black and amber boy on March 03, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
i here alot of 1s wishing loughgiel well and that if they win its good for antrim hurling etc.

wat a load of balls i hope they get thrashed as their supporters are the biggest shower of tramps about

how can u possible support them if you are from another club they r a disgrace they give the officals dogs abuse constantly.

COME ON COOLDERRY
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 03, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on March 03, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
i here alot of 1s wishing loughgiel well and that if they win its good for antrim hurling etc.

wat a load of balls i hope they get thrashed as their supporters are the biggest shower of tramps about

how can u possible support them if you are from another club they r a disgrace they give the officals dogs abuse constantly.

COME ON COOLDERRY

a little narrow minded there but i understand were you are coming from, rarely are people glad to see the neighbours doing better.  However as they ain't my neighbours i hope they do it.  for whatever point of view, it would and has been a big boost for ulster, antrim, north antrim hurling.  my only hope is shamrocks are cashing in (not ££££ that type) on this success and really selling it to the youngsters of the parish.  have something special for them.  so here is hoping they beat coolderry.  Just unfortunate that either team loses as both flying flag for weaker counties opposed to the big three and galway with the outstanding club record.  Shamrocks abu, though won't be shouting that too loudly but they have my support
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 03, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on March 03, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
i here alot of 1s wishing loughgiel well and that if they win its good for antrim hurling etc.

wat a load of balls i hope they get thrashed as their supporters are the biggest shower of tramps about

how can u possible support them if you are from another club they r a disgrace they give the officals dogs abuse constantly.

COME ON COOLDERRY

Thats a disgraceful post.If you were a hurling man at all you colud see Loughgeil are a good team and foget your wee parish head.
Good luck shams I think youse can do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 03, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
even when st galls in football final i was happy to see them do it MR2 despite the very colourful clan that represents the Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 03, 2012, 10:57:16 PM
Well said SaffronOg.  See, I was right, nothing but begrudgers and Loughgiel bashers.  Looks like the Antrim GAABoard god-fathers revel in this type on contributor. Ack well, roll on 17th, hopefully a few smiles will be wiped off faces then.  By the way, take it easy on MR2,  harsh words about the 'colourful St. Galls personel'. Ya know, the earlier generation of St. Galls were far nicer people, we always got on the best with the Galls.

Good win by the lads today, a good pipe opener and run out.  Come on the Shams.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on March 03, 2012, 11:12:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 03, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
even when st galls in football final i was happy to see them do it MR2 despite the very colourful clan that represents the Galls

Of course you are referring to their ethnic diversity!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 03, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on March 03, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on March 03, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
i here alot of 1s wishing loughgiel well and that if they win its good for antrim hurling etc.

wat a load of balls i hope they get thrashed as their supporters are the biggest shower of tramps about

how can u possible support them if you are from another club they r a disgrace they give the officals dogs abuse constantly.

COME ON COOLDERRY

Thats a disgraceful post.If you were a hurling man at all you colud see Loughgeil are a good team and foget your wee parish head.
Good luck shams I think youse can do it.
I applaud you BlackandAmber.  Wish there were more like you n the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
Sure Loughgiel will be well represented by their supporters, Their Parish seems to stretch as far to Armoy all the way to Glenavy Sham Man.

We have great supporters, even the ones who have left us over the years still have have that love for the club. A lot of them end up in Casement some even help out as umpires. Though some of them end up daft as fcuk ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 03, 2012, 11:26:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
Sure Loughgiel will be well represented by their supporters, Their Parish seems to stretch as far to Armoy all the way to Glenavy Sham Man.

We have great supporters, even the ones who have left us over the years still have have that love for the club. A lot of them end up in Casement some even help out as umpires. Though some of them end up daft as fcuk ;)
Does your parish not stretch a fair bit too MR2? I believe it stretched to Belleek at one point.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 03, 2012, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
Sure Loughgiel will be well represented by their supporters, Their Parish seems to stretch as far to Armoy all the way to Glenavy Sham Man.

We have great supporters, even the ones who have left us over the years still have have that love for the club. A lot of them end up in Casement some even help out as umpires. Though some of them end up daft as fcuk ;)
Have you started the St. Patrick's day drinking early, what the hell are you going on about?  You're becoming delusional I fear. But hell, ur paranoia is well founded so I am told! Amazing.  :D ::)  And by all accounts, u have more clubs that Rory McIlroy and ur club stretches to the boundaries of the entire province of Ulster. Kettle calling the pot black, I am embarrassed for u.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ big time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
Sham for a loughgiel man ya more concerned with me that Paddy's Day. I wouldn't know any Loughgiel men that would be feeding you this shite, but keep her lit, quality posts.

Now I don't sway that way but Mint is open tonight if you fancy some man love
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 04, 2012, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
Sham for a loughgiel man ya more concerned with me that Paddy's Day. I wouldn't know any Loughgiel men that would be feeding you this shite, but keep her lit, quality posts.

Now I don't sway that way but Mint is open tonight if you fancy some man love
The lowest from of wit, as they say!  I am for concerned for you than about you Milltown, but lets just say you are treading on ********* ground. For whatever reason you see fit to suggest that I am being fed sh1T by Loughgiel men,ha ha ha, ur having a laugh  :D,  if you only knew the truth, even you would be pleasantly surprised, but hey, least said. All I will say however is, u are barking up the wrong tree, woof, woof, woof! jeasus lad u really are looking silly.  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 12:35:45 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 04, 2012, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
Sham for a loughgiel man ya more concerned with me that Paddy's Day. I wouldn't know any Loughgiel men that would be feeding you this shite, but keep her lit, quality posts.

Now I don't sway that way but Mint is open tonight if you fancy some man love
The lowest from of wit, as they say! I am for concerned for you than about you Milltown, but lets just say you are treading on ********* ground. For whatever reason you see fit to suggest that I am being fed sh1T by Loughgiel men,ha ha ha, ur having a laugh  :D,  if you only knew the truth, even you would be pleasantly surprised, but hey, least said. All I will say however is, u are barking up the wrong tree, woof, woof, woof! jeasus lad u really are looking silly.  :'(

Explain, in English please? ;D.  For a grown man, catch yourself on please, for the sake of that club your represent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2012, 11:10:46 AM
Are you ever going to get round to answering that question with the yes or no answer sham man?

SIE take note of blackandambers prompt reply to his clubmates gormless rant.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Maybe we should concentrate on the hurling, this nit- picking is becoming tedious.

I see Dunloy beat Ballycran in the Ulster league yesterday. Good win as I believe it was close enough up to the last 15 mins or so. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 04, 2012, 11:59:15 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Maybe we should concentrate on the hurling, this nit- picking is becoming tedious.

I see Dunloy beat Ballycran in the Ulster league yesterday. Good win as I believe it was close enough up to the last 15 mins or so. 
Well SIE...some of the stuff on here lately has been cringeworthy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
Indeed it has.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Maybe we should concentrate on the hurling, this nit- picking is becoming tedious.

I see Dunloy beat Ballycran in the Ulster league yesterday. Good win as I believe it was close enough up to the last 15 mins or so.

We played Burt yesterday at Milltown, to put into context this Ulsterr Hurling league, two weeks ago we played Carrickmore in Middletown!! We had 15 players (including me) that wayed down and were beat handy. This week we had 26 souls at the club house looking a game, we even had the services of a county hurler also!!

What we didn't have was a manager, March and we are still without a manager after last seasons epic charge in the Senior championship. I looked after it yesterday, and really enjoyed it.

The thing is SIE, this competition at this time of year will only be used by the teams that play in the Antrim league as a warm up session. I'd say, and maybe your knowledge of Dunloy's hurling ability is better, that if this was a serious match then the result/outcome, would have been known long before the last 15 minutes. I wouldn't be using that as a yard stick for this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2012, 01:25:03 PM
Mr2 I see Rossa & naomh pol drew yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Again wouldn't put much thought into these games. Teams are judged at the end of August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 04, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Again wouldn't put much thought into these games. Teams are judged at the end of August.

not sure of your age profile mr2, but get the impression your best hurling days (mouth watering as they were) are behind you.  would you not be interested in the job or maybe you would but couldn't be assured of the players support ??? as they would be worried about you picking yourself.  The mcguiness brigade have left bredagh, give sean a shot he knows his stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on March 04, 2012, 05:38:20 PM

We beat Glenariffe today in Ulster League, maybe 11 or 12 in it at the end.  Conor McAlister a big miss for them as they struggled to hold on to possession around the middle of the field for most of the game.  Anyone know where Dan McKillop was? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 04, 2012, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on March 03, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
i here alot of 1s wishing loughgiel well and that if they win its good for antrim hurling etc.

wat a load of balls i hope they get thrashed as their supporters are the biggest shower of tramps about

how can u possible support them if you are from another club they r a disgrace they give the officals dogs abuse constantly.

COME ON COOLDERRY
.   Idiot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 04, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Again wouldn't put much thought into these games. Teams are judged at the end of August.

not sure of your age profile mr2, but get the impression your best hurling days (mouth watering as they were) are behind you.  would you not be interested in the job or maybe you would but couldn't be assured of the players support ??? as they would be worried about you picking yourself.  The mcguiness brigade have left bredagh, give sean a shot he knows his stuff

manager is there to pick teams decide on tactics and have a trainer to get them fit and drilled. Support?  Explain?

Im forty now. Those playing days long gone. South antrim will do me. You play much for Ballymena?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 04, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
I know this view is going to be met with some dismissal, but i think killkennys standard in football takes away some of the credit of there hurling success. Imagine how your county would do if they focused solely on one discipline. In kilkenny anybody who has in intrest in anything other than hurling is frowned upon, from an early age they are encouraged to pursue only thing for a good reason in there eyes. every thing else can have a detrimental effect on there preferred code. The press and great for eulogies and praise for there manager and hurlers without the consideration they have a serious advantage over the opposition in this respect

Just posted this over on a thread about kilkenny football, after there u21s  mauling by louth the other night fermanagh gave there Seniors a 46 point drubbing today. I have always been of the opinion that if antrim was a one trick pony as well we could have landed at least one all ireland by now. This is not a crack at our football brethren as they are quite right to follow there respective passion just an observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
That's a fantastic point n_a_h -- remind u of Ur own north Antrim?

Particularly since it's exactly how most of the dual clubs think about loughiel & cushendall!
It's precisely the same!
Any wonder why we've had the county final repeated between these two clubs?

If u think about it they should be ashamed if a dual club gets close up them - never mind beats them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2012, 08:41:46 PM
But then again, bogball was never really a traditional game played in the glens, unlike hurling/shinny/caman which has been played in the glens for centuries.

Having said that, I wouldn't be against a football team in Loughgiel at all. I've even been known to venture over close to the Bann to watch a game or two if there's nothing else on.

I think it was tried in the 70s or 80s but the interest just wasn't there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
I fully understand that SIE but it's a different point.

The fact us any club playing one code (glens) has a massive advantage over dual clubs (mainly city) with them splitting time (&pitches). I honestly think if the like of yourselves is beaten by a dual club it is a massive failing on your part.

Although granted that's not been happening lately!

Oh and personally speaking I would gladly abandon the bogball - the days of successful dual players/clubs are gone. It's a case of concentrating on success at one code or mediocrity at both. 

A few players deserve honourable mentions here (st galls, herrons, mickey armstrong) but ultimately they can't combine both at the top level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on March 04, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 04, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Again wouldn't put much thought into these games. Teams are judged at the end of August.

not sure of your age profile mr2, but get the impression your best hurling days (mouth watering as they were) are behind you.  would you not be interested in the job or maybe you would but couldn't be assured of the players support ??? as they would be worried about you picking yourself.  The mcguiness brigade have left bredagh, give sean a shot he knows his stuff

So he can talk about the pendulum! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 04, 2012, 09:52:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on February 29, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
Lets try.

Looking at the draw L'giel, on paper, could have a potentially tricky opening tie against Rossa going on last year but if they do manage to get by Rossa i cant see anything stopping them from getting to the final then.

As for the other side of the draw its hard to look by C'dall. Not only have they lost 3 finals in a row they have been in 6 out of the last 7 finals. Throw in the fact that they must be looking at L'giel thinking "that could be us" given the position they were in with 11/12 mins to go in last years county final, they dont need any more motivation for this year than that. Of course St Galls wont be easy for them in the quarters but im sure they will be up for that given the warning they got last year.

Finally Dunloy will be massive favourites against Ballycastle; hopefully we can keep the ball pucked out to them!!!

Your right about the Dall id say. Your underestamatin our chances with Dunloy  ;D I know what you mean like it would be great if McKelvey came home and 2/3/4 of our backs raised their game  to help Hippy and Neal more. We need a new midfield to on last year and we cant dpend on Pinky and Cossy all the time they must be mid 30s now. Heard a while ago Clark and Jennings was comin back. That'd be good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 04, 2012, 10:21:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 04, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 03:27:54 PM
Again wouldn't put much thought into these games. Teams are judged at the end of August.

not sure of your age profile mr2, but get the impression your best hurling days (mouth watering as they were) are behind you.  would you not be interested in the job or maybe you would but couldn't be assured of the players support ??? as they would be worried about you picking yourself.  The mcguiness brigade have left bredagh, give sean a shot he knows his stuff

manager is there to pick teams decide on tactics and have a trainer to get them fit and drilled. Support?  Explain?

Im forty now. Those playing days long gone. South antrim will do me. You play much for Ballymena?

played last couple of years for town, mainly for another club to a decent level.  i mean why wouldn't you manage the team, support jibe was due to i'd imagine its a difficult job in that dual club to have everyone pulling in same direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2012, 10:29:57 PM
There's not a team in the country that doesn't have splinters in the camp, same in work and life in general. No big deal. Next time a senior post comes along at All Saints you should try it. highs and lows but no regrets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 05, 2012, 12:52:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
That's a fantastic point n_a_h -- remind u of Ur own north Antrim?

Particularly since it's exactly how most of the dual clubs think about loughiel & cushendall!
It's precisely the same!
Any wonder why we've had the county final repeated between these two clubs?

If u think about it they should be ashamed if a dual club gets close up them - never mind beats them!
I know its having an effect on my club at underage (E.G our minors hardly get any training once all the south west leagues kick in and LG the Dall etc can train the lads two.three times a week). I'm diplomatic enough to suggest that until vast majorities don't want dual status then things should stay the same but both codes are getting higher in standard every year and dual clubs are at a disadvantage unless you have a Huge catchment to facilitate each one. Back to kilkenny they have the same population as Antrim, Demographics (65% of antrim are not nationlist, and a large portion that are play football), so lets throw up a hypothetical scenario where the said portions are culled from the cats panel I think our boys would give them a run for there money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 05, 2012, 03:47:50 PM
Haven't made my mind up whether to go down to the final or not, but will tickets be hard to get down there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
No Johnny. €25 at Croke park.


*edit

It appears you have to get the ticket via ticketmaster  online or in one of their outlets in Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 05, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
No Johnny. €25 at Croke park.

will be there but that is bloody expensive.  guarantee you i don't watch the majority of the football.  were they the same price when getting them early SIE or any sham that have already purchased tickets.  Am I to assume the best spots i..e middle of pitch are gone.

see a cushendall man talking about beating Glenariff was it good game or were there a couple of micky mouse teams out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
They were £18 on the night. They aren't exact middle as those tickets are reserved for the hurlers/footballers who got 6 each I believe, but they're definitely decent. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 07:15:54 PM
Have all you budding Columbos, Bergeracs, Inspector Morse's given up the ghost?   SIE, did you get to the game on Saturday agin Wexford U21s?  I couldn't make it myself, overtime looming and trying to rack up a few sobs for St. Paddy's weekend. They fairly totted up a good score.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
I wasn't at it sham-man. I hear they played alright. Winker wasn't playing, although he was down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 10:23:13 PM
General discussion / Re: Gay marriage
« on: February 09, 2012, 05:39:33 PM »Was your partner in cooking the noodles.  He says you like them soft  ;)
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2012, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2012, 04:33:56 PM
There are plenty of married couples where one of the parents is gay anyway so it does happen.
That's a brave admission. I hope you get the help you need.

Are you my new stalker?? I like the attention but you are not my type 


Is this something you want to share with the group Milltown? heheheeee  ;)  You really have been outed now Milltown. Well, u never can tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Who have we here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.

Yeah course they did ;) but if you ever played hurling before you'd know that  ;D ;D  thanks again for the photo ya eejit
Jaysus lads, I have just be informed who Milltown Row 2, I cant believe it is that, the insignificant we turd. I know one or two of them Stewards/Umpires at casement would be more likely to give him a good slapping.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2012, 11:13:12 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.

Yeah course they did ;) but if you ever played hurling before you'd know that  ;D ;D  thanks again for the photo ya eejit
Jaysus lads, I have just be informed who Milltown Row 2, I cant believe it is that, the insignificant we turd. I know one or two of them Stewards/Umpires at casement would be more likely to give him a good slapping.  ::)

Brill, keep her lit, I knew you'd break, slapping ;D ;D Ya couldn't make it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2012, 11:28:02 PM
How much longer do we have to endure this clampit?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2012, 11:31:06 PM
Seems a wee bit longer than bog ash caman!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 05, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
Moderator call a stop to this drivel,as it has gone past a joke.Time this topic was brought to an end.....pointless,pointless,pointless!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on March 05, 2012, 11:53:06 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.

Yeah course they did ;) but if you ever played hurling before you'd know that  ;D ;D  thanks again for the photo ya eejit
Jaysus lads, I have just be informed who Milltown Row 2, I cant believe it is that, the insignificant we turd. I know one or two of them Stewards/Umpires at casement would be more likely to give him a good slapping.  ::)

Sham man, I know who you are, and your not a Loughgiel man or member.  I would ask you to talk some sense or if you continue to talk your rubbish, do it in the name of your own club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 12:20:24 AM
I presume it whacker you mean that this balloon should be shown the door and normal service should resume ...rather than the "Antrim Hurling" thread ending
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2012, 12:22:11 AM
Quote from: wino on March 05, 2012, 11:53:06 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 05, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2012, 11:19:49 PM
Good to know where you're sitting Shamman, I'm sure someone will give ya a slap ;D

Who in their right mind shows you where they are sitting?? Couldn't make it up
Ah but sure Miltown, that's not all the tickets I have, just a brief sample.  I tell ya one thing for sure, it would not be you that would be doing the slapping, u would be punching well above your weight lad.  Oh to be an authority on everything - catch yousel on FFS.  ;)  I am generally led to believe your b***s dropped off on many an a occasion when playing for Galls.

Yeah course they did ;) but if you ever played hurling before you'd know that  ;D ;D  thanks again for the photo ya eejit
Jaysus lads, I have just be informed who Milltown Row 2, I cant believe it is that, the insignificant we turd. I know one or two of them Stewards/Umpires at casement would be more likely to give him a good slapping.  ::)

Sham man, I know who you are, and your not a Loughgiel man or member.  I would ask you to talk some sense or if you continue to talk your rubbish, do it in the name of your own club.
+1    GIMP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 12:28:23 AM
He was a gimp last week as well before everyone has realised he's a sham imposter. Would have been nice if youse had called him out then as well. Just saying like...

Anyway ......Better late than never
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2012, 06:28:52 AM
What do we think of this? From the Irish Independant:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/weaker-hurling-counties-get-fitnesstesting-boost-3039992.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/weaker-hurling-counties-get-fitnesstesting-boost-3039992.html)




Weaker hurling counties get fitness-testing boost



SIX 'developing' hurling counties, and two in camogie, are getting special access to the new National Hurling and Camogie Development Centre, which was unveiled on the Waterford IT sports campus yesterday.

The centre is open to all teams as a commercial entity, but Antrim, Carlow, Down, Laois, Westmeath and Kerry's hurlers will be given special funding through the National Hurling Development Plan, to cover their use of it, as will the camogie players of Waterford and Antrim.

The new initiative is designed to provide sports science, training and nutrition education to hurling teams, which will expand to skills coaching.

Its initial use will be centred around its fitness testing capacity, which will be used to build up a database on weaker hurling counties to see what the main physical differences between them and hurling's stronger powers are.

The centre even has a mobile testing bus which has already been dispatched to Down and Antrim.

"One of the problems is that a lot of testing done on hurling teams is ad hoc and quite secretive," said Eugene McKenna, chief executive of campus services at Waterford IT.

"Our facilities will allow us to use standardised tests, collate information on the designated 'weaker' counties and measure these against the stronger ones."

WIT have already invested over €18.5m into their new sports HQ, which Waterford GAA already use for county training.

The college completed the first phase, including pitches, in 2010, and a new indoor centre will open by the end of this year and will now double up as the GAA's new hurling development centre.

- Cliona Foley

Irish Independent




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
The development squads are all doing fitness tests at the minute. Must be these guys that are being utilized. Makes sense now as I heard it was a very well run scientific operation.

I wonder just how much information we'll have access to? Not of much use if your not made aware of where your at relative to everyone else and what plans you should put in place to close ay gaps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 06, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
The development squads are all doing fitness tests at the minute. Must be these guys that are being utilized. Makes sense now as I heard it was a very well run scientific operation.

I wonder just how much information we'll have access to? Not of much use if your not made aware of where your at relative to everyone else and what plans you should put in place to close ay gaps.
I haven't heard about any of this and I am a development squad coach. Sure we have fitness testing every year but there is no analysis of the data by trained people and subsequent individual fitness programs developed so in a sense it's just a tick box because there aren't resourses to take it further. I'd be surprised if we have any squads in Waterford this season and suspect a visit from the bus might be the height of it.
No doubt there will be a fitness gap in most instances because colleges hurling in Ulster is pathetic largely due to most schools not giving a sh!t so by default young Southern hurlers will have a lot more work done coming into the playing season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
The U14's did a fitness test last Sunday and the U15s are doing one this week. Are you saying LM that these are not in any way related to this initiative. That doesnt make sense if it's available to us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 06, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
"Sham Man", your cover has obviously been blown - this would not go down well if it got into the public domain.  My advice to you would be to walk away from this now to save face!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
The U14's did a fitness test last Sunday and the U15s are doing one this week. Are you saying LM that these are not in any way related to this initiative. That doesnt make sense if it's available to us?

Does anyone else not think its a little mad doing fitness tests on youngsters aged 14/15/16 etc?

We've started a 'strength and conditioning' program with our minors and I have to say I'm not that keen as these lads are very much still growing and unless its very carefully monitored by people who know what they are doing could end up putting some lads back.

I'm a bit old school as I'd still prefer to see a hurl in their hand than a dumbbell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 06, 2012, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
The U14's did a fitness test last Sunday and the U15s are doing one this week. Are you saying LM that these are not in any way related to this initiative. That doesnt make sense if it's available to us?
95% certain its not and the tests will be carried out in house using Greenmount sports hall. The data may well be forwarded for use in a consultation paper but little else will come of it as far as I know. The final squad is retested at the end of the season also but there never has been any comparitive analysis. A question of resources no doubt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 06, 2012, 11:19:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
The U14's did a fitness test last Sunday and the U15s are doing one this week. Are you saying LM that these are not in any way related to this initiative. That doesnt make sense if it's available to us?

Does anyone else not think its a little mad doing fitness tests on youngsters aged 14/15/16 etc?

We've started a 'strength and conditioning' program with our minors and I have to say I'm not that keen as these lads are very much still growing and unless its very carefully monitored by people who know what they are doing could end up putting some lads back.

I'm a bit old school as I'd still prefer to see a hurl in their hand than a dumbbell.
With youngsters having an increasing sedentary lifestyle I dont think its a bad thing for lads to be aware of their fitness at 14. They say boys need numbers to understand things and this does just that. There has to be a balance though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Kids (in general) have become more sedentary in between training sessions that I think a focus needs to be put on it. Plus I dont think strength and conditioning automatically means weights. More body weight stuff to improve core stability and flexibility as well as better cardio I'd say.

Just read your reply LM...would have saved me posting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Kids (in general) have become more sedentary in between training sessions that I think a focus needs to be put on it. Plus I dont think strength and conditioning automatically means weights. More body weight stuff to improve core stability and flexibility as well as better cardio I'd say.

Just read your reply LM...would have saved me posting

So many kids now at the gym, they are much more aware of strength and conditioning and I've notice at the gym that I go to, more young lads doing weights,core, and cardio. Some of the decent schools have state of the are gyms and they are usually the schools that excel in sport competitions, so it's being done at that level anyways.

As Johnney says I would prefer the lads with the hurls in their hands everyday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
I think this whole thing is crazy!

Young lads bodies are stilld eveloping, as is their strength and fitness - at that age they should have a hurl glued to their hands! Never mind this fascianation with weights and physical training and fitness test - they need to be hurling!!

If we want to create the most physically fit and strong people - go to the olympics!

Obviously there is a place for all of this as we go towards senior but any young lad who is out training and playing hurling games every night of the week will be fit!

Maybe we will stop at half time and challenge opponents to a fitness test because we cant out hurl them!

Madness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
Guys look at the age profile of the county teams now, it is coming down further and further, it is nearly becoming a students sport. Simply because they have the time to train and put in the gym sessions that are required at this level. We have been neglecting this type of training for years and as a result haven't developed the physical capabilities to compete at this level.

As long as it is done in the correct way then this training and testing is ideal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Kids (in general) have become more sedentary in between training sessions that I think a focus needs to be put on it. Plus I dont think strength and conditioning automatically means weights. More body weight stuff to improve core stability and flexibility as well as better cardio I'd say.

Just read your reply LM...would have saved me posting

I understand that and certainly a bit of core strength helps balance and striking and that can be worked on in conjuction with technique which is more important particularly in the likes of 13, 14, 15 year olds. We'd a lad centre back a few years ago, six pack, could run all day but his striking and first touch was awful. I used to say to him he'd be better trying to put the ball over the bar from 70 yards rather than running 70 yards.
I just think there's enough time for the gym, weights when you're out of minor and then its programs to produce speed and agility rather than bulk which isn't the be all and end all in hurling thankfully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
I understand that and certainly a bit of core strength helps balance and striking and that can be worked on in conjuction with technique which is more important particularly in the likes of 13, 14, 15 year olds. We'd a lad centre back a few years ago, six pack, could run all day but his striking and first touch was awful. I used to say to him he'd be better trying to put the ball over the bar from 70 yards rather than running 70 yards.
I just think there's enough time for the gym, weights when you're out of minor and then its programs to produce speed and agility rather than bulk which isn't the be all and end all in hurling thankfully.

For every athlete who can't hurl JC there'd be 4 or 5 boys who can hurl but wouldn't have the best mobility or strength. I don't think that anybody would argue that strength and conditioning should not be worked into hurling training sessions, so I don't think we're that far away from agreeing with each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
In Antrim we are not (well of late anyway) blessed with big natural athletes. Southern teams would have at least 10 lads the size of McManus/Donnely or bigger with just as much skill. They easily knock our lads off the ball and late in the game they still have the strength to knock over points.

Wether that is down to dieting or them being very lucky I don't know, but it is very evident when we play the likes of Cork Kilkenny (smaller pick than us) Limerick, Tipp and the rest. Wexford and just recently Offaly have probably the same size of players. Dublin have in the past few years baulked up and can compete with the big guns. Galway have also recently picked bigger teams, though in the past they had small fast hurlers but they were very strong.

So it's a balancing act, we still need to be producing quality stick men but we also need to be producing big, strong and fast stick men.

Bar Tommy Walsh, the kilkenny lads are all over six foot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
I'm reading Michael Johnson's book at the minute (Gold Rush) and he says that his athletic performance company Michael Johnson Performance have determined that 12-15 years old (or thereabouts!) is the optimal time for maximising physical fitness that will carry on into adulthood. They often meet resistance from people who think this time should be about working on skills and the fitness will come later. They disagree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 01:36:49 PM
The strength and fitness training is one thing - the testing is another.

Strength and fitness is a pre-requisite, although I dont know why we would want to go to Waterford for it.

I firmly believe the biggest test of fitness is the last 10minutes of a match - no matter what the bleep test says!

I would put my mortgage on it that the KK, Tipp etc spend a lifetime more on the pitch than in the gym.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 01:36:49 PM
The strength and fitness training is one thing - the testing is another.

Strength and fitness is a pre-requisite, although I dont know why we would want to go to Waterford for it.

I firmly believe the biggest test of fitness is the last 10minutes of a match - no matter what the bleep test says!

I would put my mortgage on it that the KK, Tipp etc spend a lifetime more on the pitch than in the gym.


Tipp under Liam Sheedy certainly put a huge amount of effort into gym programs etc, but from my good sources they were very much geared towards individual and hurling requirements, not generic training. I'm almost certain KK would be up to something similar but don't go shouting too much about it and Cody likes everyone to think that they just turn up to Nowlan park and beat seven shades of shite out of each other.

But these are adult teams, I wonder if 14, 15 year olds are being set out gym programs down there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 01:36:49 PM
Strength and fitness is a pre-requisite, although I dont know why we would want to go to Waterford for it.

I firmly believe the biggest test of fitness is the last 10minutes of a match - no matter what the bleep test says!

I would put my mortgage on it that the KK, Tipp etc spend a lifetime more on the pitch than in the gym.

btdtgtt ...I really don't know where you're coming from.

How do you develop strength and fitness without devoting some time developing it? Your comment about the last 10 minutes seems to imply that regardless of how fit you are prior to the last 10 minutes of a game, you can somehow overcome that lack of fitness (as a team) with heart and determination?

Perhaps you could explain ..because I'm not getting it

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
I understand that and certainly a bit of core strength helps balance and striking and that can be worked on in conjunction with technique which is more important particularly in the likes of 13, 14, 15 year olds. We'd a lad centre back a few years ago, six pack, could run all day but his striking and first touch was awful. I used to say to him he'd be better trying to put the ball over the bar from 70 yards rather than running 70 yards.
I just think there's enough time for the gym, weights when you're out of minor and then its programs to produce speed and agility rather than bulk which isn't the be all and end all in hurling thankfully.

For every athlete who can't hurl JC there'd be 4 or 5 boys who can hurl but wouldn't have the best mobility or strength. I don't think that anybody would argue that strength and conditioning should not be worked into hurling training sessions, so I don't think we're that far away from agreeing with each other.

True, I just think that some youngsters develop physically at different rates and nature should take its course before we start this stuff.

I'm weary of ill resourced initiatives apeing what other teams/counties do but they do it right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
For clarity;

I dont think you can succeed at the highest level without the strength work in the gym.

But lads at U-14 should not be focussed more on skills and matches than physical fitness.

And at senior level - I just think in the last number of years we have seem some people put so much emphasis on gym/weights that they neglect the skills of the game.

But yes - I fully acknowledge the need for strength / gym / weights etc - I just think there balance has shifted towards this at the expense of skills.

I understand southern hurlers seem bigger and stronger - but they are also alot quicker to control the sliotar and move it on.

Both are needed - but I think we need to concentrate younger lads on the skills of the game.

As for the point from Michael Johnson - did he hurl much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
For clarity;

I dont think you can succeed at the highest level without the strength work in the gym.

But lads at U-14 should not be focussed more on skills and matches than physical fitness.

And at senior level - I just think in the last number of years we have seem some people put so much emphasis on gym/weights that they neglect the skills of the game.

But yes - I fully acknowledge the need for strength / gym / weights etc - I just think there balance has shifted towards this at the expense of skills.

I understand southern hurlers seem bigger and stronger - but they are also alot quicker to control the sliotar and move it on.

Both are needed - but I think we need to concentrate younger lads on the skills of the game.

As for the point from Michael Johnson - did he hurl much?
Played for the Johnnies 'til minor.

Hurled against Jonty for  a few years, he played a fair bit for the Davitts, mainly played up front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 06, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Its a habit they need to get comfortable with early in life and hopefully stick with if they have any ambitions for playing top grade hurling. Very few gym dodgers left in the game now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 02:47:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
True, I just think that some youngsters develop physically at different rates and nature should take its course before we start this stuff.

I'm weary of ill resourced initiatives apeing what other teams/counties do but they do it right!

JC ...very few young lads as anywhere near as active as they should be day in day out (adults are as bad), so nature is taking it's course as we speak and young lads are suffering for it.

Your second point is very relevant I think. What might work for Rocky (III) will do more harm than good for young lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2012, 02:59:32 PM
Michael Johnson - from Davitts to Barcelona 92!
From nippy corner forward to 400m world record!

What a man!

And for his final trick - from St Johns to ?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 06, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
"Sham Man", your cover has obviously been blown - this would not go down well if it got into the public domain.  My advice to you would be to walk away from this now to save face!
Enlighten me lad, how has my cover been blown?   And why should I need to save face?  As stated previously and I will reiterate,  I am not who you lads think I am, I want to really emphasize that. I have confirmed this with other members on antrim gaaboard.  I too can create my own deflections, as do others who add posts.  You are not the Inspector Cluesaus's you may think you are.  I really cannot understand the challenges to my integrity and identity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 06, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
most important is the development of the skillls and they should be in place around u14 level or else it will be difficult there after.  core and lifting your own body weight is what is required then to the end of minors for hurlers.  After that you can go to gyms etc and work on the required muscles. it's all about skills, speed and determination. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
A virgin poster, some crack on this site this last few weeks, so in short I'm hooked! Look forward to a bit of banter to say the least, I'm from SW so be gentle and don't hold that against me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 06, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
most important is the development of the skillls and they should be in place around u14 level or else it will be difficult there after.  core and lifting your own body weight is what is required then to the end of minors for hurlers.  After that you can go to gyms etc and work on the required muscles. it's all about skills, speed and determination.

The skills in fairness should be well developed before the age of 14, striking off both sides on the move, fielding, soloing, hooking blocking, dips, be they one handed or two. I managed our under 12's when the Johnnies first got that good team together, they were doing this stuff at under 12, by the age of 14 they were doing the same stuff, only quicker, sharper and with less mistakes.

Was great to see, though as a manager it was hard on the kids taking those beatings. I've refereed them a fair bit also and sometimes you have to catch yourself on, as i nearly clapped at some of the scores they took.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
A virgin poster, some crack on this site this last few weeks, so in short I'm hooked! Look forward to a bit of banter to say the least, I'm from SW so be gentle and don't hold that against me.

It's all NA when it comes to hurling lonely1. Are you sure you're in the right thread  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
A virgin poster, some crack on this site this last few weeks, so in short I'm hooked! Look forward to a bit of banter to say the least, I'm from SW so be gentle and don't hold that against me.

It's all NA when it comes to hurling lonely1. Are you sure you're in the right thread  :)

Hey some Belfast lads like hurling too ya know ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
I really cannot understand the challenges to my integrity and identity.

You really are a clampit if you cannot understand that. After 3 attempts to remind you I'm still waiting for that yes/no reply. I think we're all in agreement on that

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
A virgin poster, some crack on this site this last few weeks, so in short I'm hooked! Look forward to a bit of banter to say the least, I'm from SW so be gentle and don't hold that against me.

It's all NA when it comes to hurling lonely1. Are you sure you're in the right thread  :)

Hey some Belfast lads like hurling too ya know ;)

Easy Easy

Was referring to SW specifically milltown. Theres no such place when it comes to hurling. I believe hurling is played up in belfast as well  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:53:22 PM
Thanks TS1, I ended up in SW didn't start there though, SA was my original home for most of my playing career in both codes, so hope to float across both threads, but the wee ball always was the preference and still is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 06, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 06, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
most important is the development of the skillls and they should be in place around u14 level or else it will be difficult there after.  core and lifting your own body weight is what is required then to the end of minors for hurlers.  After that you can go to gyms etc and work on the required muscles. it's all about skills, speed and determination.

The skills in fairness should be well developed before the age of 14, striking off both sides on the move, fielding, soloing, hooking blocking, dips, be they one handed or two. I managed our under 12's when the Johnnies first got that good team together, they were doing this stuff at under 12, by the age of 14 they were doing the same stuff, only quicker, sharper and with less mistakes.

Was great to see, though as a manager it was hard on the kids taking those beatings. I've refereed them a fair bit also and sometimes you have to catch yourself on, as i nearly clapped at some of the scores they took.

yeah great thrill at times for taking teams and some of the young lads are super.  reckon in belfast the underage hurling is strong Rossa very good u16 team.  the killer i think comes after this age group and with minors trying to keep them interested and happy. do the young galls lads head down to pitch maybe on days off for a poc around. or do they head to falls park or something.  thats what hurt us in ballymena, great pitches but too far away from the young lads.  Old pitch was shite but at least it was close to the area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 06, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
A virgin poster, some crack on this site this last few weeks, so in short I'm hooked! Look forward to a bit of banter to say the least, I'm from SW so be gentle and don't hold that against me.
Welcome lonely1. It could get interesting on here in the next couple of weeks.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 09:49:21 PM
Lonely One, I hope you have your birth certificate, driving licence, marriage certificate, mobile number, home address, club membership, all Ireland tickets, utility bill, wages slip, baptism lines and blood donor card with you.  There a some very inquisitive, doubting Thomas's around here who have to closely scrutinise your very personal credentials.  You may very easily be mistaken for Lord Lucan, Stakeknife or Fcukin Shergar.  ;)

This lot tend to believe, I am a belfast man, Galls man, steward umpire who drinks in The Pound in Loughgiel and takes the Corkey Road home to Belfast.  Would you believe it?  I swear ta jaysus, ye wouldna credit it at all.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
I really cannot understand the challenges to my integrity and identity.

You really are a clampit if you cannot understand that. After 3 attempts to remind you I'm still waiting for that yes/no reply. I think we're all in agreement on that
For fox ache, another stalker!  And who are you if I may ask?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
I really cannot understand the challenges to my integrity and identity.

You really are a clampit if you cannot understand that. After 3 attempts to remind you I'm still waiting for that yes/no reply. I think we're all in agreement on that
For fox ache, another stalker!  And who are you if I may ask?
Stalker = someone trying to hold you to task

Don't worry clampit, I think thats enough of trying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 05:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
I really cannot understand the challenges to my integrity and identity.

You really are a clampit if you cannot understand that. After 3 attempts to remind you I'm still waiting for that yes/no reply. I think we're all in agreement on that
For fox ache, another stalker!  And who are you if I may ask?
Stalker = someone trying to hold you to task

Don't worry clampit, I think thats enough of trying
Put it to me in writing Skull1 and I look at it sometime in the near future, when I not so busy.  FFS, yamean there's two of you. :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:39:12 PM
After a bit o' greetin (just getting with the lingo :)) by some city slicker aboot league games fixed the day after Paddy's day...I though this was a witty retort on the antrimgaa site

You see them Belfast boys at it again holidays at the 17th; holidays at the 12th - for us yins out in the country - the lambing starts at 17th March. But them wans frae Loughgiel were smert; sure of themsels that they held the 'tips' back a week (do you know what I mean) so their ewes(female sheep) won't lamb until a week after they win the All -Ireland. So there's planning and fore-sight for ye. That will gae them a whole week to celebrate.
What's all this oul nonsense about holidays in March - boys a dears and holidays in July- changed times. Is there no supposed to be a recession? But sheep are a right good trade. See you in Croker!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 06, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2012, 10:39:12 PM
After a bit o' greetin (just getting with the lingo :)) by some city slicker aboot league games fixed the day after Paddy's day...I though this was a witty retort on the antrimgaa site

You see them Belfast boys at it again holidays at the 17th; holidays at the 12th - for us yins out in the country - the lambing starts at 17th March. But them wans frae Loughgiel were smert; sure of themsels that they held the 'tips' back a week (do you know what I mean) so their ewes(female sheep) won't lamb until a week after they win the All -Ireland. So there's planning and fore-sight for ye. That will gae them a whole week to celebrate.
What's all this oul nonsense about holidays in March - boys a dears and holidays in July- changed times. Is there no supposed to be a recession? But sheep are a right good trade. See you in Croker!
Soonds mar like an Ulster Scots Dunloy wan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2012, 11:55:06 PM
lol,   only in proper English.  this has actually happened. lol  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 07, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
I see the county administrators as usual well behind on the fixture admin, they have known for months of the change with the txt service and never bothered their backsides, must be the new multi sport new stadium for GAA, Concerts, and Rugby keeping our secretary busy these days, unbelievable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
The fact that precise fixtures have not been published is a joke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 07, 2012, 08:19:30 PM
yeah it is about time the fixtures were distributed. people in full time employment to get these matters sorted.  believe jerry has produced a few surprises with the team for sunday.  few posiitonal switches and a few different personnel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 07, 2012, 08:19:30 PM
yeah it is about time the fixtures were distributed. people in full time employment to get these matters sorted.  believe jerry has produced a few surprises with the team for sunday.  few posiitonal switches and a few different personnel

McLaughlin, Barry McFall and the Randalstwon FF making way I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 07, 2012, 08:50:08 PM
Its good to see, he obviously has a system in his head that he is not yet happy with and prepared to experiment but at the same time establish a platform for the chship, allowing for the loghguile lads to return and if winker settles he be hard to handle anywhere whether you love him or hate him, credit where credits due. Jesus wouldn't it be great to see the lads bring it back to antrim and the proverbial two to the experts in Munster and Leinster!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
When the St Galls lads came back into the Antrim team after winning the All Ireland it didn't work out. We lost 3/4 on the trot and were crap in the Championship. This year the Antrim football team has a better spread of players and they have gelled well and playing as a unit this year.

Antrim will have been training away, playing games, developing systems. Would the right thing be, to play these lads (Loughgiel) in slowly and with not too much disruption. Just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 07, 2012, 09:43:48 PM
Chris O Connell Na Seamroga

Aaron Graffin   Ruairi Og
Cormac Donnelly   Mac Uilin
Kieran Mc Gourty   Naomh Gall

K B Mc Shane   Mac Uilin
Neal Mc Auley   Mac Uilin
Simon Mc Crory   Naomh Eoin

Neil Mc Manus   Ruairi Og
Michael Gettens   Oisin, Gleann Airbh

Karl Stewart   Naomh Gall
Michael Herron   Lamh  Dhearg
Colm McFall   Naomh Eoin

Shane Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og
Conor Mc Cann   Ciceaim Creágan
PJ O Connell   Gaeil Na Cluanaigh

Seanan Mc Toal   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
John Kerr                    Ui D Rosa
Barry McFall   Naomh Eoin
Sean Mc Laughlin   Cathaoir an Rí
Kevin Sheeran   Tir na nOg
Darren Hamill   Shane O Neills
Declan Lynch   Lamh  Dhearg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 07, 2012, 11:14:07 PM
Just hope we don't need to dip into the bench
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 09:06:44 AM
Loughgiel supporters flags and bunting torn down and stolen last night from around Scally Park and other parts of parish.
People have a good idea where the culprits originate from, and why  we should not be surprised at their pathetic attempts to derail the Shamrocks bandwagon. Roll on the 17th............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 09:16:20 AM
Aye, no surprise there bushwacker. Sure they'll have them back up tonight again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Reading between the lines I'm assuming (could be wrong) you mean either Armoy or CLoughmills but I wouldn't think they'd be very happy at the innuendo and speculation about these very decent clubs without some eye witness reports confirming that was where the fcukwits (and thats what they are) were from..otherwise youre playing into the hands of prejudice (oh it appears youse are doing that already)

Some fcukwits did the same during a few of Dunloys AI campaigns. People thought they had a fair idea over here too but again had no real evidence

At the end of the day regardless of where they're from, these are the acts of people who offer ZERO to the communities they claim to represent and it's important for those affected by those fcukwits not to tar the whole of that community. I'm sure their own communities would be totally embarrassed by these individuals if it were proven that thats who tore down your bunting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 09:51:16 AM
There wouldn't really be a rivalry between Armoy/Cloughmills and Loughgiel skull, but like you say, they're fcukwits no matter where they're from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2012, 09:57:56 AM
Listen, pullling down bunting will happen, I doubt very much this will have any bearing on how Loughgiel will enter the final, would be a mind game that some managers could use to their advantage, in fact maybe the manager arranged it ;)

Them and us, everyone is against us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 09:51:16 AM
There wouldn't really be a rivalry between Armoy/Cloughmills and Loughgiel skull, but like you say, they're fcukwits no matter where they're from.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 09:16:20 AM
Aye, no surprise there bushwacker. Sure they'll have them back up tonight again.

No surprise I had to drag it out of you  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 10:02:13 AM
Eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 10:09:09 AM
Work it out (clue: it's a little joke with a jag)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
Anyway, hardly the end of the world. I know there'll be a few lg flags up this week not that far away from you skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
The cloughmills gang will have them down in no time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 10:25:01 AM
I wouldn't know about that ;)  There's a few up in cloughmills already I hear. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
Try to trivialise this if you want to,but your corner boy attitude would indicate clearly where you come from.Adults and children were involved in making an erecting these decorations,these low life scumbags even tore the decorations from the school,do think that funny ?....I'm sure the kids don't today.I've watched you all trying to be clever on this forum for the past few weeks talking nonsense about topics that nobody cares about,except you 3 or 4,with badly thought out (and spelt) posts
Get a life and stop trying to make little of someone with a genuine grievance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
Relax lads FFS, this sort of thing has been going on for years!! We had bunting up, and pulled down.

Like i said I doubt very much this will annoy the team or it's preperations for the final on the 17th. Yes Bushwhacker it's will look shite at the school and hopefully like most schools nowadays they will have a camera of sorts which may pick these dicks up.

I love the idea of the bunting and the support banners in the wee villages, certainly gives the communnity a lift and builds up the hype for the game. We traveled down to Middletown in Armagh a few  weeks ago to play a game and the whole way in (about 5 miles out from the village) the trees were covered in bunting and posters wishing their players all the best. Looked great.

Hopefully these arseholes get caught some night and given a hiding, but can't see it happening. Good luck on the 17th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
Try to trivialise this if you want to,but your corner boy attitude would indicate clearly where you come from.

Just to be clear bushwhacker and avoid confusion....who are you referring to here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2012, 11:11:51 AM
Good God it's only a bit of bunting! You would think the village had been raped and pillaged.

I would be more concerned about burgalries on March17 - you lads want to make sure the local constabulary have a car on the lookout.

It's bunting this week - it could be your TV next week.
Just a thought its happended before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
I wonder will they come back to-night,hope they do................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 08, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
Try to trivialise this if you want to,but your corner boy attitude would indicate clearly where you come from.Adults and children were involved in making an erecting these decorations,these low life scumbags even tore the decorations from the school,do think that funny ?....I'm sure the kids don't today.I've watched you all trying to be clever on this forum for the past few weeks talking nonsense about topics that nobody cares about,except you 3 or 4,with badly thought out (and spelt) posts
Get a life and stop trying to make little of someone with a genuine grievance.

I've watched you all trying to be clever on this forum for the past few weeks talking nonsense about topics that nobody cares about

what does this mean, what an idiotic statement. The basis of a discussion forum is that someone can register on it bring up a topic and other people do or don't reply to it. As this thread was started and called antrim hurling and most of the topics are related to this whats the problem. The most irritating thing on here this last few days has been some clown from your own club insulting everybody in fairness hes not trying to hard to be clever. you don't seem to have any gripes about him. That's about the only subject on here I would say I've read and don't care about. For the benefit of yourself we will all use layman terminology and simple writing in case we perceived as trying to be clever. I'm going to hit the spell check now, we wouldn't want to spell something wrong. NO need to respond as I'm sure  you see this as a topic that you don't and care about and I'm trying to be clever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
I wonder will they come back to-night,hope they do................
I hope they do to for the same reasons as you

Now who were you directing that previous statement towards?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 08, 2012, 12:07:44 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
I wonder will they come back to-night,hope they do................
Ciircle the wagons, they are all out to get us!!!I would just go to bed if I was you, you'll be glad of it next weekend, win lose or draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
North antrim hound, sham-man is not from our club. I thought this much was obvious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 08, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
anyone remember when they talked about hurling on this place
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 08, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 08, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
anyone remember when they talked about hurling on this place
The preseason vacuum sucks in all kinds of madness. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 08, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 08, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
anyone remember when they talked about hurling on this place
The preseason vacuum sucks in all kinds of madness. ;D

And then some, I hear that in a recent SW local cup competition, a lad substituted decked the manager known as JC on his way off! Absolute madness, what next weapons being pulled!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
Now hold on a minute. Club rivalries and wums are one thing, but football in the hurling thread? Unforgivable!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 01:38:14 PM
L1...the football thread is discussing that. Only muddles the discussion when it's going in two places. Not that theres much sense of order on this thread atm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on March 08, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
Very best of luck to the hurlers from Loughgiel on the 17th,Up the Saffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 08, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 09:48:26 AM
Reading between the lines I'm assuming (could be wrong) you mean either Armoy or CLoughmills but I wouldn't think they'd be very happy at the innuendo and speculation about these very decent clubs without some eye witness reports confirming that was where the fcukwits (and thats what they are) were from..otherwise youre playing into the hands of prejudice (oh it appears youse are doing that already)

Some fcukwits did the same during a few of Dunloys AI campaigns. People thought they had a fair idea over here too but again had no real evidence

At the end of the day regardless of where they're from, these are the acts of people who offer ZERO to the communities they claim to represent and it's important for those affected by those fcukwits not to tar the whole of that community. I'm sure their own communities would be totally embarrassed by these individuals if it were proven that thats who tore down your bunting.

What lines were you reading between there Skull? Must have missed something there.


Agree with Colonel re lack of actual hurling discussion. Makes me come on here less than I used to (maybe the idea for some).

Going to give Jerry the benefit of the doubt with the selection changes. Seems to know what he is at and impressing all.
Really liked the way he didn't bomb into the changing room at half time v Offaly. Him, Sambo and Dick went for a wee dander down the field to have a chat and then headed in 5 minutes after. I always like that approach from a manager - the good ones (I have seen) are generally calm at half time, with the ability to get things stirred up if required.

One thing is strange though with a player coming on at full forward last week now starting WHB. But as I say he knows better than me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Tongue was firmly planted in check Glensman at the time of writing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 08, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
County Board to proceed with project
08 March 2012
The Antrim County Board have denied that their new Centre of Excellence has been put on hold.

The centre of excellence, which is to be developed at Dunsilly just outside Antrim town, was launched six years ago, but only one pitch out of the projected six has been developed.

Currently there are upgrades being carried out at Casement Park and there is a feeling that the centre of excellence is not a priority anymore.

However, the Antrim County Board have stressed that the project is ongoing even though it may be proceeding slower than expected.



I believe its the 180k of debt and not a brick built that's really delaying things! can we do anything right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 08, 2012, 04:47:43 PM
Fir fox ache, seems I am going to have to apologise according to Loughgiel guestbook.  Do mesel a favour Ffa,  maybe I should make mesel scarce?  I didna maen ta cause embarrassment.  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2012, 05:46:16 PM
Nuala vallely rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
Sham man .....you passed yourself off as someone else and were caught out OK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 08, 2012, 11:26:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Tongue was firmly planted in check Glensman at the time of writing

Hard to see through that cloak of...!

My bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2012, 04:02:55 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 08, 2012, 04:47:43 PM
Fir fox ache, seems I am going to have to apologise according to Loughgiel guestbook.  Do mesel a favour Ffa,  maybe I should make mesel scarce?  I didna maen ta cause embarrassment.  :-[

is that an apology then, accepted as long as you f**k off now and don't come back. (where ever your from)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 09, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 08, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
Sham man .....you passed yourself off as someone else and were caught out OK.
Sure ya still donae know who I is Ffa.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 09, 2012, 11:12:19 AM
This is getting really really tiresome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on March 09, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 08, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
County Board to proceed with project
08 March 2012
The Antrim County Board have denied that their new Centre of Excellence has been put on hold.

The centre of excellence, which is to be developed at Dunsilly just outside Antrim town, was launched six years ago, but only one pitch out of the projected six has been developed.

Currently there are upgrades being carried out at Casement Park and there is a feeling that the centre of excellence is not a priority anymore.

However, the Antrim County Board have stressed that the project is ongoing even though it may be proceeding slower than expected.



I believe its the 180k of debt and not a brick built that's really delaying things! can we do anything right!

Who comes up with these stories?  All you have to do is walk under the railway bridge up there to see there are 3 pitches completed - granted there's no floodlighting yet, but there is definitely more than one pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enthusiast on March 09, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
New to this discussion board, heard that there is a bit of trouble in St Johns in relation top the two Johnson lads looking to jump ship to Rossa. Will surely heat up that city rivalry should it happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 09, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: Enthusiast on March 09, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
New to this discussion board, heard that there is a bit of trouble in St Johns in relation top the two Johnson lads looking to jump ship to Rossa. Will surely heat up that city rivalry should it happen.
You must be just home from Australia or somewhere fella, its all sorted they are staying put and normal service will no doubt resume.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on March 09, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
With Jonty at the helm will it ever be normal service? I for one doubt it! And it looks our sham man is purposely trying to get gassed, things must be getting to hot under his collar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 09, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on March 09, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
With Jonty at the helm will it ever be normal service? I for one doubt it! And it looks our sham man is purposely trying to get gassed, things must be getting to hot under his collar.
You cant knock what he has achieved with this group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on March 09, 2012, 11:40:07 PM
Sham man - if you are from Cushendall then you are an absolute dick. quit posting stuff you idiot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: ruairi on March 09, 2012, 11:40:07 PM
Sham man - if you are from Cushendall then you are an absolute dick. quit posting stuff you idiot
I doubt he's from the Dall either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on March 10, 2012, 07:39:12 AM
Good luck Loughgiel!

Does anybody know when the league fixtures will be issued?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 07:58:47 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on March 10, 2012, 07:39:12 AM
Good luck Loughgiel!

Does anybody know when the league fixtures will be issued?
I don't think anybody knows lecale, including the fixtures committee.    ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on March 10, 2012, 08:07:07 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2012, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: ruairi on March 09, 2012, 11:40:07 PM
Sham man - if you are from Cushendall then you are an absolute dick. quit posting stuff you idiot
I doubt he's from the Dall either.

He's from st galls. And I wish he would just fcuk off.  I can't wait to see him face to face. Just to prove my point to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enthusiast on March 10, 2012, 08:25:56 AM
I like a good debate so who do we think is the best hurler in ulster at the present time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2012, 08:58:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2012, 05:46:16 PM
Nuala vallely rest in peace.

Yes my condolences also. Very saddened by her death. Any of our posters who have been at Casement will have recognise Nuala as the only woman steward.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
Quote from: Enthusiast on March 10, 2012, 08:25:56 AM
I like a good debate so who do we think is the best hurler in ulster at the present time?

No offence to you Enthusiast, but it's a stupid debate that has no real answer to it, as certain posters will have their own choice and stick with it regardless.


KARL STEWART IS THE BEST IN ULSTER  ;D
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Antrim are +9 (with the bookies) for the game away to Clare this Sunday. Is that a fair reflection of where Antrim currently sit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 12:53:45 PM
Do any of you boyos know anything about Alan Kelly (Galway)? He's been given the refereeing job for the final next week according to the GAA.ie site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 10, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 12:53:45 PM
Do any of you boyos know anything about Alan Kelly (Galway)? He's been given the refereeing job for the final next week according to the GAA.ie site.

He reffed Antrim Laois in the first round last year. Thought he was pretty pernickety (certainly more so than Anthony Stapleton would be). Sent off Neal McAuley with a straight red for an off the ball incident that I didn't see and I dont think he saw (but relied on a linesman, I think) so not gun shy!

Think he sent off Matthew Donnelly when playing for Antrim minors against the Dubs in Crossmaglen - game was very even at the time and that effectively ended it. Was not at that game but heard from a couple of people at the Antrim Cork quarter final the next day who considered it very very harsh decision.

It would seem a man not afraid to give a red card!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
Oh SIE we are not focussing on the ref are we??

Let's hope he doesn't have a big part to play.

The debate (?) on best hurler is irrelevant - how to you compare a keeper to a full forward to a midfielder etc. Let's focus on real stuff.

MR2 u should do ur bets earlier in the week - the handicap was only 7points on Tuesday so I assume a few punters have driven in out to 9. Think home advantage is worth a few points here i think
Clare will win with a bit to spare - but I was wrong v wexford and hopefully again. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 03:52:16 PM
What's your problem? I was asking if anyone knew anything about him. As I hadn't heard of him. Wind your neck in.


Thanks cloot. Nothing wrong with showing the red if it's the correct decision. I thought Stapleton should've shown one for the neck tackle on skinner in the semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on March 10, 2012, 04:12:27 PM
He's a good lad and is a Garda during the 9-5, genuine to the last, can be a bit of a nervous lad though and this is his biggest stage yet on the national career front. Struggles with fitness and if the game is at a blistering pace I feel he may be found wanting in that dept, especially if some calls are made from distance which he has had a tendency to do in the past, croker is a big pitch! However he plays it from a straight bat, and I really do hope his nerves don't get the better of him as the only ones to suffer will be the two teams. He will however let it go, you can be sure of that!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on March 10, 2012, 04:15:33 PM
Nuala Vallely was a lovely woman RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 10, 2012, 04:33:56 PM
It is an unfortunate in playing in the All-Ireland series that ref will tend to have a slight preference for Southern teams, would Galway and Offaly not be extremely close, human nature if you're going to make a wrong decision do against that crowd from the north that you'll never have to see again.

I recall the ref in the Dunloy Mount Sion game got dogs abuse for giving a match winning decision to dunloy, little was made of the many 50/50 calls he had given the other way!

Did I hear Loughgiel went to Croker for a session but weren't allowed on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
The rumours are fairly flying about now. They were down to play wexford U21s last week and had a pre-arranged tour and photo stop on the way up. No session was arranged or asked for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 10, 2012, 07:19:54 PM
No big deal either way, hardly bothered me, just think Croke park can be extremely petty in their allocation of pitch time

As for the Antrim game I think plus 9 is a fair reflection of were we are at present and were Clare are, they were very impressive against Limerick and although a good win against Wexford it was at home against a fairly new team.

Anything inside the handicap will be a good result, the game v Limerick is potentially winnable and am sure Jerry will target this, Clare on the otherhand seem intent on Div1b next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 10, 2012, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 10, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2012, 12:53:45 PM
Do any of you boyos know anything about Alan Kelly (Galway)? He's been given the refereeing job for the final next week according to the GAA.ie site.

He reffed Antrim Laois in the first round last year. Thought he was pretty pernickety (certainly more so than Anthony Stapleton would be). Sent off Neal McAuley with a straight red for an off the ball incident that I didn't see and I dont think he saw (but relied on a linesman, I think) so not gun shy!

Think he sent off Matthew Donnelly when playing for Antrim minors against the Dubs in Crossmaglen - game was very even at the time and that effectively ended it. Was not at that game but heard from a couple of people at the Antrim Cork quarter final the next day who considered it very very harsh decision.

It would seem a man not afraid to give a red card!

Lucky the Town is'nt in the final.  Agin the Town so must be for the Shams?   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
Too many posts about a ref in a game that hasn't happened yet!

SIE u are very touchy on that! No such queries before na piarsaigh game?

Hopefully he us a peripheral figure - unless he gives winker a few 21s in which case we will all be happy!

Oh and while I am here - still no league fixtures!
I think a certain official is enjoying keeping people waiting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 11, 2012, 12:47:33 AM
Not at all touchy. You're just someone else reading too much into an innocent post. You're in good company in that regard.

Not the worst failing in the world. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 11, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
Have the Dates for championship even been released, surely in the middle of March these are known, very difficult to plan holidays, events, work for the summer until these are released. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
The all Ireland champs elect play Rossa on 4/5 august in the prelim.

Quarters are 1st weekend in September.

League fixtures are in lord lucan's pocket!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2012, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 11, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
Have the Dates for championship even been released, surely in the middle of March these are known, very difficult to plan holidays, events, work for the summer until these are released.

These games are usually late August, always have been, league games normally start after Easter sometimes Easter Sunday, this has happened for years!!!!!!!!!!

Why people get worked up over it is beyond me. Christ knows why it hasn't come out but they will be out soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
Loughiel Rossa earlier this year because lamh dearg into senior means 9 teams so prelim needed.

Hurling leagues start 11 April.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 11, 2012, 02:46:32 PM
Clare 0-03 Antrim 0-03  15 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Christy O'Connor has a full page profile/interview with Winker in The Sunday Times today. He manahed to get a wee jag at the Dall too...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 11, 2012, 05:01:58 PM
Clare 0 20 Antrim 0 12

Bit of a collapse in the second half - it was 0 8 to 0 7 at half time and (from comments on An Fear Rua) Antrim seemed to be giving them a real go of it.

Clare had a man sent off about 20 mins into the second half but I think McManus got sent off just before the end. Not sure if a red or second yellow, he got a yellow in the first half.

According to bits of it I got on Clare FM, Antrim were playing with a 2 man full forward line and the ball just kept coming back out.

Anyway, reality bites.

It would seem Wexford had a miraculous recovery to pip Offaly at the death which makes things very interesting in the division, with Clare in front, Laois at the tail and everyone else bunched in the middle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 11, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 11, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
The all Ireland champs elect play Rossa on 4/5 august in the prelim.

Quarters are 1st weekend in September.

League fixtures are in lord lucan's pocket!

Those are the dates lads...

Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Christy O'Connor has a full page profile/interview with Winker in The Sunday Times today. He manahed to get a wee jag at the Dall too...

What has he said?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 11, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 11, 2012, 10:09:14 AM
The all Ireland champs elect play Rossa on 4/5 august in the prelim.

Quarters are 1st weekend in September.

League fixtures are in lord lucan's pocket!

Those are the dates lads...

Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Christy O'Connor has a full page profile/interview with Winker in The Sunday Times today. He manahed to get a wee jag at the Dall too...

What has he said?
"If I went in to a bar today and drank two pints, the word in Cushendall would be that I was drunk off my head".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 11, 2012, 07:55:10 PM
Watson stands his ground

Watson stands his ground

Loughgiel's sharp shooter says he is a reformed man ahead of the club final
Christy O'Connor Published: 11 March 2012
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Liam Watson lines his hurleys up against the wall, each one delicately garnished with red and white coloured grips. The handles are thicker and the bas bigger than normal but Michael and Denis Scullion know Watson's exact requirements. On Wednesday, Watson followed his usual ritual the week before a big game by picking up three new sticks from Scullion's workshop opposite Loughgiel's pitch. The clean ash was all that differentiated them from Watson's mini-forest of timber, each stick as primed as the next. Perfect.

Watson gathers the new hurleys and makes his way down Lough road, entering Fr Healy Park through the little back-gate. He crosses the gravel track and jumps the three-foot wall before emptying a batch of sliotars on the pitch. The quality of ash is soon authenticated by the smooth cracking sound from the sliotars pinging off his hurley as Watson goes through his free-taking routine. His striking is almost flawless. Perfect.

Watson has been in the zone for a while. In the All-Ireland semi-final against Na Piarsaigh, he bagged 0-16. Watson's sublime striking on a wet day illustrated his talent but that performance was fermenting for 12 months before he uncorked it. "I was useless in last year's semi-final against O'Loughlin Gaels," he says. "I wanted to go back to Parnell Park to prove a point. I knew that whoever I was marking against Na Piarsaigh was going to be in for some treatment."

Big scoring returns have been a constant throughout Watson's career; he scored 0-13 out of 0-16 in the 2007 county final defeat to Dunloy. His talent was never in doubt. His attitude and mentality always was. He has carried the tabloid caricature of a maverick and his indiscipline has consistently rhymed with that reputation. Hurling often operates on the dynamics of a village and one bad word often borrows another. Yet most of Watson's indiscretions were so public that he had no defence against the gossip which accompanied them.

"I'm the type of man who does what he wants to do," he says. "Some people can take that, some people can't. I would never look back with regrets but I will admit that I have done piles of things wrong. I'm far from perfect but God gives everyone a talent and the main one I was given was hurling. Once you're given it, you have to try not to waste it. I wasted it for a couple of years but I'm trying hard to redeem that now."

He first showed that renegade streak as a 19-year old in Antrim's 2002 All-Ireland quarter-final against Tipperary when he struck Paul Ormonde on the side of the head with the butt of his hurley. A yellow card was later upgraded to a red and red cards became a recurring theme throughout his career. He was sent off against Derry in 2008 while he was also red-carded twice in the 2010 season, including the All-Ireland quarter-final against Cork when he was marched after scoring six excellent points from play.

It also blighted him at club level. Watson was the pulse of Loughgiel's scoring power but he was also their jugular vein and teams often went for the jugular. "I have been targeted but I was letting my family and my teammates down for years," he says. "I got sent off in a championship game against St John's one year. I came home afterwards and Eoin (his seven-year-old son) had this wee stick. He jagged it into the side of me and goes, 'You shouldn't have done it'. He's very close to me and I had to cop on. I've nearly been sent off more times than I've got up in the morning so you have to catch on some time."

His indiscipline on the field though, was too often a reflection of it off the field. One year he missed a club championship game when he disappeared on a lost weekend at the motorcycle world championships in Toomebridge. He didn't play with Antrim in 2007 and 2009, while he was dropped from the squad the night before they played Galway in the 2008 qualifiers for playing a low-key soccer tournament in Limavady two nights previously. Joint-managers, Terrence 'Sambo' McNaughton and Dominic 'Woody' McKinley, were building a new team and Watson's reputation conflicted with their standards and ideals. It wasn't just them. Watson breached a drinking ban imposed by Dinny Cahill before the 2010 Leinster championship against Offaly by going to a close friend's stag in Liverpool. He was also involved in a fight in training with a fellow player. He was dropped from the panel before being restored and not all of Cahill's management team were happy to see him come on against Offaly.

Yet he became an All-Star nominee and there has always been a conflict between his immense talent and the perception of him as a liability. "If I went in to a bar today and drank two pints, the word in Cushendall would be that I was drunk off my head," he says. "I like getting out, having a drink and enjoying myself. If people think I'm an alcoholic or drinking as much as I'm supposed to be, I'd hardly have scored 0-16 against Na Piarsaigh. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I'll have my opinion after March 17."

In such a passionate hurling heartland, opinions have often been easier to form with Watson's soccer commitments. He spent three seasons in the IFA Premiership with Donegal Celtic, where he was popular with the supporters, before signing for Ballymena United last August. "The supporters were crazy, I was as crazy as them, we enjoyed our football and we had a drink afterwards," he says. "That's what life is all about: enjoyment. This guy said to me one day, 'Are you a hurling or soccer man? I said, 'If a bill comes in my front door, will you pay it if I only play hurling? The soccer was giving me a few pounds to pay bills but I've always been mad into all sports."

Watson wasn't immune from controversy either on the soccer field; he was sent off after 15 seconds against Coleraine in 2010, while he was suspended by Ballymena last November for an alleged breach of discipline. It doesn't provide him with a defence but Watson has been troubled at times.

"I'm my biggest critic and I'm always beating myself up," he says. "There are always people trying to knock you and there would be times when I wouldn't want to come out of the house, win or lose. If I came out, I could end up hitting somebody. Everyone has good and bad days. I'm usually upbeat and cheery but there were times when I might have been in bad form and I just didn't want to go to the field. Maybe I was suffering a bit from depression. I wouldn't say yes or no but there were times when I was very down."

Jim Nelson and Joe McGurk are two outsiders in Loughgiel's backroom team and their input has helped Watson reform. "Joe is a teacher but I call him my counsellor," says Watson. "Sometimes he might be able to tell that I'm not in great form. If I'm not happy with something, I feel I can speak to someone. Joe keeps me right."

They have all benefited from management's guidance. Loughgiel lost six county finals in a row from 2003 before cracking it in 2010. Nelson had built his reputation on bringing organisation and structure and his methods created the conditions to move forward. He got them working harder, removing the individualism which had often blighted their play.

The calmness they showed in extra-time was also mirrored by Watson's composure. Na Piarsaigh tried to twist his tail but he didn't take the bait. He sees the bigger picture now reflected in his son's excitement. Last week, Eoin got a new Loughgiel fleece with his father's picture and name on the back.

"I want to make my family and Loughgiel people proud," says Watson. "I feel at the top of my game at the minute. Everything is going well for me on and off the field. All I can promise is that I'll give 100% work rate. I can't say that I will reproduce what I showed against Na Piarsaigh but I love the big challenge, the hype, the atmosphere. The big stage is definitely for me."

The stage is set. And Watson finally looks primed for it.

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 11, 2012, 10:07:53 PM


Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 04:48:54 PM
Christy O'Connor has a full page profile/interview with Winker in The Sunday Times today. He manahed to get a wee jag at the Dall too...

What has he said?
[/quote]"If I went in to a bar today and drank two pints, the word in Cushendall would be that I was drunk off my head".
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Must have been edited...he doesn't even say "yano" in the paper
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 11, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
didnt think there was much wrong with any of the above? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 12, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 11, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
didnt think there was much wrong with any of the above? ???
His disciplinary record makes for sorry reading in that article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2012, 01:27:08 AM
I think Liam revels in the whole George best wild thing. A rebel with a cause and all that. Prsonally I have more time for the shefflin canning way but if he produces next week we will all be happy. The closer the game gets the more I want a loughiel Antrim northern victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2012, 06:18:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 12, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 11, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
didnt think there was much wrong with any of the above? ???
His disciplinary record makes for sorry reading in that articlle.
He's the first to admit it. He has improved on that side of things over the last year or so though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 12, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2012, 06:18:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 12, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 11, 2012, 10:39:25 PM
didnt think there was much wrong with any of the above? ???
His disciplinary record makes for sorry reading in that articlle.
He's the first to admit it. He has improved on that side of things over the last year or so though.
Sounds like a man happier in his own skin these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2012, 10:36:25 AM
Any reports on yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Theres one on anfearrua NAG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Going into Sunday's National Hurling League game in Ennis team manager Jerry Wallace had said he wanted his side to be competitive in their meeting with Clare, and during the first half of the game they certainly were. However after the change of ends the home team got on top and despite losing Donal O'Donovan to a straight red card they ran out convincing winners by 0-20 to 0-12.
In a highly competitive first-half there was little to choose between the sides and with Neill McManus totally dominant at midfield Antrim gave as good as they got.
Clare had the first two points on the board but once PJ O'Connell opened Antrim's account in the seventh minute they began to find some confidence. Shane McNaughton brought them level from a free and while Nicky O'Connell edged Clare back in front, two excellent points from McManus put Antrim 0-4 to 0-3 in front after fourteen minutes.
Points from John Conlon, Colin Ryan and Cathal McInerney put the home side two in front before McManus cut the gap to the minimum again following Antrim's best move of the match on twenty-four minutes.
Conor McGrath gave Clare a two point cushion once again but McManus and Karl Stewart replied for the Saffrons to square the game, only to see McGrath restore Clare's lead in first-half injury time.
                            CAUGHT COLD
The Antrim management must have been pleased with their team's first-half display but the Saffrons were caught cold at the start of the second-half as Clare hit five unanswered points in the opening eight minutes to leave them a mountain to climb.   Shane McNaughton got their first score of the second-half in the forty-fifth minute when he sent over a free from sixty metres and two more points from the same player in the next six minutes had the gap back to four.
Donlon and McNaughton exchanged points to keep the gap at four, but following a bad miss from Karl Stewart in the sixty-first minute the Saffrons were made to pay dearly as Clare hit four points in two minutes to put the game beyond Antrim's reach.
Things got worse for Antrim when Neill McManus received a second-yellow card near the end, but in truth it had no bearing on the outcome of the game at this late stage as Clare deservedly kept their 100% record intact as they moved clear at the top of the Division 2 table.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 12, 2012, 11:12:52 AM
How many Loughgiel men,when available, will be drafted on to the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2012, 11:15:17 AM
Not sure how many will be on the team but I think there are 6 or 7 to come into the squad. DD is a cert, although I hear Chrissy made a couple of great saves yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 12, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
not sure how many shams will slot in the starting 15 but i will off course offer a very educated opinion

eddie mccloskey and winker i would have thought need to be accommodated in the forward division.

johnny campbell in defence along with dd and i would really not be that sure after that.  hear martin scullion isn't goin up, not saying he should be playing, or that he shouldn't be playing just to ward off red and white uproar.

Also heard neil McAuley was for shipping off to the land of Oz.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2012, 04:49:52 PM
Martin Scullion was called up but couldn't commit this year because of family commitments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Hard to commit when you have two years of hard graft behind you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2012, 08:24:08 PM
Complete football fixtures list out - no hurling.

Anyone shed any light on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
(http://www.youthblog.org/archives/shed%20light.jpg)

Wee franks in there getting it sorted as we speak  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 12, 2012, 09:57:25 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 12, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
not sure how many shams will slot in the starting 15 but i will off course offer a very educated opinion

eddie mccloskey and winker i would have thought need to be accommodated in the forward division.

johnny campbell in defence along with dd and i would really not be that sure after that.  hear martin scullion isn't goin up, not saying he should be playing, or that he shouldn't be playing just to ward off red and white uproar.

Also heard neil McAuley was for shipping off to the land of Oz.
What about Barney?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 12, 2012, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2012, 08:24:08 PM
Complete football fixtures list out - no hurling.

Anyone shed any light on this?
Tweet @Antrimsec and Frankie will no doubt reveal all...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 13, 2012, 12:02:42 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 12, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
(http://www.youthblog.org/archives/shed%20light.jpg)

Wee franks in there getting it sorted as we speak  :)
HAHAHA   cunny funt ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on March 13, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
Can tickets for Croker be bought at the ground on Saturday?

Or how do you get them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Enthusiast on March 13, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
Was very disappointed to see on the Sunday league show on rte two weekends ago calls for the Fitzgibbon 3rd level competitions to be scrapped. I feel that this is a great standard of hurling and would be an absolute shame if it was done away with. Some fine hurlers have represented QUB, UUJ and the Ranch over the years. It would be a pity to lose such a great sporting tournament.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 13, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 13, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
Can tickets for Croker be bought at the ground on Saturday?

Or how do you get them?
Get them here fella.
http://www.tickets.ie/event.aspx/aib-gaa-all-ireland-senior-club-championship--croke-park-dublin-17-March-2012/JSYY8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2012, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 13, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
Can tickets for Croker be bought at the ground on Saturday?

Or how do you get them?

You will be able to get them down there too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on March 13, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
Thanks men. Where are the Shamrocks supporters sittin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
50/50 split between the Hogan and Cusack. The powers that be decided to charge kids full price to sit in the Hogan but only €5 for the Cusack. Those families heading down with kids are going to sit in the Cusack, no contest really. So much for the whole "club is family" nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
Minder, where can you buy tickets on the day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 14, 2012, 08:24:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
50/50 split between the Hogan and Cusack. The powers that be decided to charge kids full price to sit in the Hogan but only €5 for the Cusack. Those families heading down with kids are going to sit in the Cusack, no contest really. So much for the whole "club is family" nonsense.

think that was a good idea SIE, lot of people go simply to focus on game and young children can be a distraction.  so this policy clearly allows those with the younger families to head to a particular zone, leaving the hogan for adults more.  still think the navin should be letting people under the age of 16 in free. i myself will be in the hogan and am really looking forward to hearing the roar for the shamrocks arrival on the pitch.  would there be many loughgiel people going to stay on the fri or sat nite in croke park hotel. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: saffronog on March 14, 2012, 08:24:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
50/50 split between the Hogan and Cusack. The powers that be decided to charge kids full price to sit in the Hogan but only €5 for the Cusack. Those families heading down with kids are going to sit in the Cusack, no contest really. So much for the whole "club is family" nonsense.

think that was a good idea SIE, lot of people go simply to focus on game and young children can be a distraction.  so this policy clearly allows those with the younger families to head to a particular zone, leaving the hogan for adults more.  still think the navin should be letting people under the age of 16 in free. i myself will be in the hogan and am really looking forward to hearing the roar for the shamrocks arrival on the pitch.  would there be many loughgiel people going to stay on the fri or sat nite in croke park hotel.

It wont be a loud as you expect, You'd hear a bigger roar if it were in a smaller ground and with all the fans in the one area, with the 50/50 split between the two stands it will be a lot less unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2012, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
Minder, where can you buy tickets on the day?

Antrim Coaster - from Croke Park website

Tickets are available to purchase the following locations on match days -

Gaa ticket office, 53A Lower Dorset Street
Gaa Ticket office on the North Circular Rd (opposite Gills Pub)
Mobile Gaa ticket unit at the junction of Ballybough & Clonliffe Rd


You can also get them from Ticketmaster and print them off, few quid "admin" charge probably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2012, 10:35:18 AM
You can also print off an E-ticket on the gaa web site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2012, 11:20:27 AM
Cheers Minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on March 14, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
MR2 I heard there was a good crowd in attendance for the Referees meeting in creggan last night did you go, anything to report on the coming season, did you pass the exam they set? Would say that some boys would have struggled unless the pass mark was low? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on March 14, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
MR2 I heard there was a good crowd in attendance for the Referees meeting in creggan last night did you go, anything to report on the coming season, did you pass the exam they set? Would say that some boys would have struggled unless the pass mark was low? ;)

I'd say some lads did struggle, myself included  ::), decent crowd there also. A very informative speech from the CCC on the measures that they will take this season, with regards to refereeing and abuse to referees from players, managers and supporters. I forsee plenty of cards and zero tolerance on abusive language this season. He finished up with a talk about the ongoing appeals regarding the 'Incident', of course I'll not be revealing that but it was an eye opener.

Don't know if I will be refereeing this year, as something else may come up for me to do..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 14, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on March 14, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
MR2 I heard there was a good crowd in attendance for the Referees meeting in creggan last night did you go, anything to report on the coming season, did you pass the exam they set? Would say that some boys would have struggled unless the pass mark was low? ;)

I'd say some lads did struggle, myself included  ::), decent crowd there also. A very informative speech from the CCC on the measures that they will take this season, with regards to refereeing and abuse to referees from players, managers and supporters. I forsee plenty of cards and zero tolerance on abusive language this season. He finished up with a talk about the ongoing appeals regarding the 'Incident', of course I'll not be revealing that but it was an eye opener.

Don't know if I will be refereeing this year, as something else may come up for me to do..........

may i be the first to congratulate you in your new managerial position as St Galls senior hurling manager, or selector
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 14, 2012, 10:15:17 PM
only thing is, will you ever know who you are playing in the leagues with the county messing about as much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 14, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on March 14, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
MR2 I heard there was a good crowd in attendance for the Referees meeting in creggan last night did you go, anything to report on the coming season, did you pass the exam they set? Would say that some boys would have struggled unless the pass mark was low? ;)

I'd say some lads did struggle, myself included  ::), decent crowd there also. A very informative speech from the CCC on the measures that they will take this season, with regards to refereeing and abuse to referees from players, managers and supporters. I forsee plenty of cards and zero tolerance on abusive language this season. He finished up with a talk about the ongoing appeals regarding the 'Incident', of course I'll not be revealing that but it was an eye opener.

Don't know if I will be refereeing this year, as something else may come up for me to do..........

may i be the first to congratulate you in your new managerial position as St Galls senior hurling manager, or selector

I'm nearly sure you can read
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
So have you taken the St Galls job or not MR2?

Great squad of hurlers if you can get them all out, and for the whole season.
At worst, another championship assault?

Division2 looks like be the most interesting again rather than the procession of division1 - assuming ofcourse the county see fit to make some fixtures!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2012, 10:59:54 PM
I haven't, but glad of yours and a 'ballymena ;)' mans interests at Naomh Gall. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
I'm interested in all Belfast clubs - and yes I rate galls highly.
Don't start me on the dual issue again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 15, 2012, 09:43:11 AM
Well, we're not that far away now, so best of luck to the Shamrocks on Saturday - do yourselves and Antrim proud!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 15, 2012, 09:43:11 AM
Well, we're not that far away now, so best of luck to the Shamrocks on Saturday - do yourselves and Antrim proud!

I'm sure they are nervous as fcuk. Good luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 15, 2012, 02:16:09 PM
1. Seanan Mc Toal

2.Aaron Graffin
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Kieran Mc Gourty

5. Neal Mc Auley
6. Neil Mc Manus
7. Simon Mc Crory

8. Karl Stewart
9. Michael Gettens

10. Sean Mc Laughlin
11. Michael Herron
12. Darren Hamill

13. PJ O Connell   
14. Colm McFall
15. Shane Mc Naughton

16. Patrick Nugent
17. John Kerr
18. Adrian Downey
19. Barry McFall
20. Paul Shiels
21. Declan Lynch
22. Kevin Sherrin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Aerlik on March 15, 2012, 02:37:56 PM
Really excited about the final.  Can't wait to watch with my Aussie mates.  Bit of excitement in the home place too, as the sister is getting wed to a fella who is Dunloy by birth but lives very close to Loughgiel.  Openly he is supporting Loughgiel, but deep down I think he is hoping they lose by a point.  ;)
Freo to beat Hawthorn on Friday night; the Shams to win on Saturday; and us to beat the hoors at rugby on Sunday morning (WA time).  Jaysus that would be some weekend.  Ya just never know. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 15, 2012, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 15, 2012, 02:16:09 PM
1. Seanan Mc Toal

2.Aaron Graffin
3. Cormac Donnelly
4. Kieran Mc Gourty

5. Neal Mc Auley
6. Neil Mc Manus
7. Simon Mc Crory

8. Karl Stewart
9. Michael Gettens

10. Sean Mc Laughlin
11. Michael Herron
12. Darren Hamill

13. PJ O Connell   
14. Colm McFall
15. Shane Mc Naughton

16. Patrick Nugent
17. John Kerr
18. Adrian Downey
19. Barry McFall
20. Paul Shiels
21. Declan Lynch
22. Kevin Sherrin

No Conor McCann?

Also - have heard mention re Shiels coming back from injury. Is this the case? Has he not been a sub now for the last couple of games?
In my opinion he deserves his starting place but haven't actually seem him hurl in a little bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2012, 05:59:00 PM
Shiels was Dunloys best player against us in championship last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 15, 2012, 06:58:30 PM
in case i would forget, final good luck to loughgiel shamrocks on Saturday.  It would be brilliant obviously for the parish but also for every hurler and supporter in Ulster.  Actually think they will do it, therefore predicting an ulster double.  although fancy the other football team to a degree Cross just turn up and tend to win as if its another day out.

hope to see eddie McCloskey really take the mantle of best forward behind watson (as long as no nonsense).   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
I'm heading down today about 12ish. The butterflies haven't arrived yet but they're on their way, that's for sure. There'll be no messaging during the game from me, unless there's wi-fi in Croker. I got last month's phone bill in a couple of weeks ago. It was a bit of a shocker, to say the least.

Everyone is injury free and raring to get at it. If the lads perform the way they can, they're in with a great shout. My prediction is shamrocks by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2012, 08:58:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
I'm heading down today about 12ish. The butterflies haven't arrived yet but they're on their way, that's for sure. There'll be no messaging during the game from me, unless there's wi-fi in Croker. I got last month's phone bill in a couple of weeks ago. It was a bit of a shocker, to say the least.

Everyone is injury free and raring to get at it. If the lads perform the way they can, they're in with a great shout. My prediction is shamrocks by 2.

+1, robbing bastards!!!!!! extra 30 quid on my bill, so much for living on the same island ;)

Loughgiel would need to score 20 points to win this match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 16, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
SIE i apologize for questioning your ref comment because I am about to do the same!
Agree with MR2 think this could be high scoring so will be interesting to see if the ref award many frees for Winker to slot over.

As for the phone bills lads I feel like calling the credit union when mine comes in - but they aint cheap to ring either!

I won't get down so it'll be either in the pub or the house but good luck Shamrocks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 16, 2012, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
I'm heading down today about 12ish. The butterflies haven't arrived yet but they're on their way, that's for sure. There'll be no messaging during the game from me, unless there's wi-fi in Croker. I got last month's phone bill in a couple of weeks ago. It was a bit of a shocker, to say the least.

Everyone is injury free and raring to get at it. If the lads perform the way they can, they're in with a great shout. My prediction is shamrocks by 2.

There is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 16, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 16, 2012, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
I'm heading down today about 12ish. The butterflies haven't arrived yet but they're on their way, that's for sure. There'll be no messaging during the game from me, unless there's wi-fi in Croker. I got last month's phone bill in a couple of weeks ago. It was a bit of a shocker, to say the least.

Everyone is injury free and raring to get at it. If the lads perform the way they can, they're in with a great shout. My prediction is shamrocks by 2.

There is

there's always one Colonel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2012, 06:04:52 PM
They have wi-fi in the Gresham alright.;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 16, 2012, 08:11:06 PM
Good luck to the shamrocks tomorrow. Bring it home!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 16, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
Not that anyone cares but I'll give my prediction for how I think the game will go tomorrow!

In the two games I have seen Coolderry play I will say I don't think Loughgiel could have hoped for a team more suited to their style of play.  Loughgiel play a possession game nowadays and I have always felt to combat this you need pace up the centre, no6. No11 and both midfielders, must allow the half forwards and half backs to mark while thu cover the ground.

Coolderry don't have that, and good and all Joe Brady is a 6 he lacks mobility and IF Loughgiel alternate Eddie and Winker on him I can see them getting real joy! 

The dangermen for Coolderry are the corner forwards and Brian Carroll, Carroll may not like the physical attention JC gives him and I suspect he will drop into midfield in search of handy possession, I believe Loughgiel will assign Skinner to dealing with this great in that area and Carroll could receive plenty of attention.

Damien Murray is the other big threat, but he's a hot and cold player it seems, though the pitch will suit him can he deliver in consecutive games, I have my doubts and he is on a good man marker.  Coolderry may need to target the other corner.

Full forward and centre half forward will be the type of player Neilly and Martin love to mark so Coolderry could have difficulty getting the 20 points or so it will take to win the game, so they may need goals

Loughgiel will need to hit the ground running and expose that lack of real pace at 6, if the panic and start lumping the ball long Brady will gobble up 50/50 balls all day and set Coolderry on their way. 

It will be a tight game, I don't expect more than 2 scores in it! Perhaps
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: crookes on March 16, 2012, 10:41:42 PM
Best of luck to Loughgiel tomorrow in the final, going down to it and hope its a cracker. I still think the hurling should be put on after the football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 16, 2012, 11:31:07 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 16, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
Not that anyone cares but I'll give my prediction for how I think the game will go tomorrow!

In the two games I have seen Coolderry play I will say I don't think Loughgiel could have hoped for a team more suited to their style of play.  Loughgiel play a possession game nowadays and I have always felt to combat this you need pace up the centre, no6. No11 and both midfielders, must allow the half forwards and half backs to mark while thu cover the ground.

Coolderry don't have that, and good and all Joe Brady is a 6 he lacks mobility and IF Loughgiel alternate Eddie and Winker on him I can see them getting real joy! 

The dangermen for Coolderry are the corner forwards and Brian Carroll, Carroll may not like the physical attention JC gives him and I suspect he will drop into midfield in search of handy possession, I believe Loughgiel will assign Skinner to dealing with this great in that area and Carroll could receive plenty of attention.

Damien Murray is the other big threat, but he's a hot and cold player it seems, though the pitch will suit him can he deliver in consecutive games, I have my doubts and he is on a good man marker.  Coolderry may need to target the other corner.

Full forward and centre half forward will be the type of player Neilly and Martin love to mark so Coolderry could have difficulty getting the 20 points or so it will take to win the game, so they may need goals

Loughgiel will need to hit the ground running and expose that lack of real pace at 6, if the panic and start lumping the ball long Brady will gobble up 50/50 balls all day and set Coolderry on their way. 

It will be a tight game, I don't expect more than 2 scores in it! Perhaps

There have been lots of comment since Coolderry got out of Offaly that Joe Brady hasnt the mobilility and Ballyboden / Oulart / Gort will pull him out of position and negate him. It hasnt happened so far and i think he was motm in a couple of those games. So Loughgiel will need to do something special to bypass him or else he might just have a stinker!!!!

I think Coolderry have more of a goalscoring threat. They have scored 11 goals in the last 6 games and i thought in particular against Gort they were really looking for goals. In Loughgiels 6 games to get to the final they have only scored 6 goals and 4 of them came against Kevin Lynches and Ballycran in games that they won very handy.

Ken Hogan comes across as an articulate, intelligent man and has builit up a good managerial cv so im sure he will have Coolderry well primed for Liam Watson unlike Na Piarsaigh. If Watson does go out and score +15 points then L'giel could do it but i think he will find it more difficult tomorrow and if hes restricted to 8/9 points my guess is L'giels total will be around the 16/17 point mark which i think is beatable by Coolderry but its going to be tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on March 17, 2012, 08:20:18 AM
On our way to HQ! Hoping for a great game and good luck to the shamrocks! Can't wait, btdtgtt waiting for your posts tonight knocking the Ref no matter what the result :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 17, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Don't disagree with that Fairhead but the difference this time with Brady will be the pitch, a huge, firm pitch exploits pace.  If Brady exerts the influence he did in the semi final I think Coolderry will win comfortably, if not it will go to the wire!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2012, 09:41:44 AM
Mibag I will try to give him the benefit if the doubt but u guys make it difficult sometimes! Anyway enjoy the games and enjoy the day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2012, 10:26:20 AM
good luckto the shamrocks today. 10 years ago today since Ballinderry shamrocks won on Paddy's day, lets hope history repeats itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
Paddy power are doing Liam Watson at even money to score 8.5 points!!! In the last game he scored that in the first half. Harder game but I'd say he'll nail 10 points today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on March 17, 2012, 02:07:36 PM
Anyone got a streaming link lads? Away at min at tried to proxy the ballix out of it but tg4 just blanked her out. Nightmare. Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
Coolderry cant handle the powerof Mccloskey @ the minute

from reading on here, i have heard plenty about Liam Watson, but never saw him much, but what a player !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Magicsponge on March 17, 2012, 02:36:23 PM
Things going great so far. Hope Loughgiel can keep it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on March 17, 2012, 02:46:40 PM
This might be a great opportunity for us all - what about we ask all Loughgiel people right now;

Right you can win an All-Ireland, but on the condition you cant be melters about it for the next 150 years?

There was nathin surer than Winker goin for goal with that free. Hope they push on. Melters tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
5 in it, 17 mins to go. Far from over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
8 in it, majestic point from Watson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
6 in it, 8 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
8 in it, 6 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
7 in it, 4 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 17, 2012, 03:16:31 PM
LG 4-13 CD 0-17, excellent result!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on March 17, 2012, 03:18:34 PM
Well done to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on March 17, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
Great result congrats Loughgiel All Ireland Champs and what a hurler you have in Liam Watson,looking forward to the boys back with the Saffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2012, 04:37:48 PM
Well done shamrocks! Congratulations to all! No amount of words can argue with the medal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Samboswig, what are you on about "melters"?  Only melters I've seen recently have been beaten in the last 3 Antrim finals. ;)

Great result, great team effort with Watson outstanding again. I thought Ronan McCloskey had some game as well.

Just about to go in the pound doors. She'll be bouncing the nite, and next week. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 17, 2012, 07:35:36 PM
 Congrats to loughgiel. The best team won by a country mile. They look a serious outfit now after this campaign.

Some story after their years losing county finals. Those boys still involved must be proud men tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 17, 2012, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 17, 2012, 07:35:36 PM
Congrats to loughgiel. The best team won by a country mile. They look a serious outfit now after this campaign.

Some story after their years losing county finals. Those boys still involved must be proud men tonight

Yep you couldn't have said a word about any of them if they packed it in after all those defeats.
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Post by: saffron sam2 on March 17, 2012, 09:08:29 PM
My cousin played camogie for Loughgiel and Antrim.  Can I leap upon the bandwagon?

Well done Shamrocks.
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Post by: Minder on March 17, 2012, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on March 17, 2012, 09:08:29 PM
My cousin played camogie for Loughgiel and Antrim.  Can I leap upon the bandwagon?

Well done Shamrocks.

Jump on. Met quite a few of them in the Canal Court with jester hats.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2012, 09:24:29 PM
Jump on? No problem. Boys here from ballymena, cushendun, dunloy, dall randalstown. I think I even seen a Toome man there. Sure the craic is only starting.
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Post by: saffron sam2 on March 17, 2012, 09:52:28 PM
Thanks folks. Aff ta git pished.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2012, 09:57:54 PM
Despite getting into double figures I thought Watson was quiet today. Both full back lines were poor, the difference was Loughgiel took and buried their goal chances.
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Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2012, 10:04:12 PM
well done Loughuile. Congrats. Unfortunately i dont know anyone personally from there so cant justify going to the Pound for a celebration. Maybe get to the Bridge or Village Inn this night next year  ;)

Have a great night, well deserved.

PS - With a great  team like that, and throw in the best from dunloy, the dall and the best of the rest, should Antrim not be doing better ?
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Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2012, 09:57:54 PM
Despite getting into double figures I thought Watson was quiet today. Both full back lines were poor, the difference was Loughgiel took and buried their goal chances.
Just in the door 3/4 tore, cant agree that l'giels fback line were poor but will concede c'derry's did not show. Coolderry didnt threaten a major while the shams took every chance they got. Thought young McCarry showed great composure for the first goal
and while the coolderry fwd unit appeared to move ball quicker they were adequately held.
Watson(quality player end of story) in the inside fwd line clearly rattled the coolderry back line, and they were  ilprepared to adapt, the yellow carded tackle on him from the FB spoke volumes.
Overall a job well done by PJ and the boys and congratulations to all Loughgiel hurling people on this fantastic achievement.


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Post by: orangeman on March 17, 2012, 10:41:15 PM
Well done Loughgiel. Great win and when they look at the trophy tonight and see the names of great clubs who won it recently and historically, they can be justly proud of their acheivement.
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Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 17, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2012, 09:57:54 PM
Despite getting into double figures I thought Watson was quiet today. Both full back lines were poor, the difference was Loughgiel took and buried their goal chances.
Just in the door 3/4 tore, cant agree that l'giels fback line were poor but will concede c'derry's did not show. Coolderry didnt threaten a major while the shams took every chance they got. Thought young McCarry showed great composure for the first goal
and while the coolderry fwd unit appeared to move ball quicker they were adequately held.
Watson(quality player end of story) in the inside fwd line clearly rattled the coolderry back line, and they were  ilprepared to adapt, the yellow carded tackle on him from the FB spoke volumes.
Overall a job well done by PJ and the boys and congratulations to all Loughgiel hurling people on this fantastic achievement.
sorry meant Casey for the 1st goal
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Post by: Gold on March 17, 2012, 10:45:33 PM
Great win. Difference was the goal chances were taken by the Shamrocks. At the start of both halves Culderry looked like they may open up and get in for goals but they never really did and any time they did shots werent hit with conviction. They were in for goal in the first minute but hit it wide. Had they ever got ahead of Loughiel i fear the Shamrocks may have been in trouble.

Watson wasnt on the ball that much but every time he was, he was effective. His first goal he started and finished and the next 2 were awesome. What a free he struck to the net, i was hoping he'd take the point.

In the 2nd half he didnt see it much but when he did he drew frees or took a score (one of which however was clearly wide but who cares!) when they were needed so for me he was as clear a man of the match as you'll ever see.

Number 4 for Shamrocks was great all day too.

Shamrocks 2 corner forwards were getting beaten to most balls in 2nd half, the ball wouldnt stick anytime it went to them, they were being marked by physically superior players and i thought it would be Loughgiel's undoing. But to be fair 15 got the 1st goal and the 2 wee boys made a couple of big plays near the end when scores were needed.

Loughgiel's tackling was brilliant, Culderry couldnt get a strike at goal

What a win.

Unimaginable what it would be like bringing an All Ireland Senior Club back to your club

Magic for Antrim and Ulster Hurling.

Great game, hard to watch a slow football game after watching a good game of hurling

The 6 pundits in the programme fairly got it wrong!

Congrats Loughgiel, awesome team and awesome support
Loughgiel fairly milked the post game celebrations--they wouldnt leave the pitch --still on it 10 mins after the footballers were out warming up! Funniest thing was a wee Loughiel fella about 6yo who was with the team during the celebrations running accross the pitch to from the pitch from Hogan to Cusuck on his own with a hurl as if he owned the place--about 15mins after the footballers were out warming up--tbf i'd till be on the pitch celebratin if i was ever so lucky!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2012, 10:52:03 PM
Winker was wild quiet. Only 3-07 in an all ireland club final.
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Post by: saffron sam2 on March 17, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 17, 2012, 10:45:33 PM
Great win. Difference was the goal chances were taken by the Shamrocks. At the start of both halves Culderry looked like they may open up and get in for goals but they never really did and any time they did shots werent hit with conviction. They were in for goal in the first minute but hit it wide. Had they ever got ahead of Loughiel i fear the Shamrocks may have been in trouble.

Watson wasnt on the ball that much but every time he was, he was effective. His first goal he started and finished and the next 2 were awesome. What a free he struck to the net, i was hoping he'd take the point.

In the 2nd half he didnt see it much but when he did he drew frees or took a score (one of which however was clearly wide but who cares!) when they were needed so for me he was as clear a man of the match as you'll ever see.

Number 4 for Shamrocks was great all day too.

Shamrocks 2 corner forwards were getting beaten to most balls in 2nd half, the ball wouldnt stick anytime it went to them, they were being marked by physically superior players and i thought it would be Loughgiel's undoing. But to be fair 15 got the 1st goal and the 2 wee boys made a couple of big plays near the end when scores were needed.

Loughgiel's tackling was brilliant, Culderry couldnt get a strike at goal

What a win.

Unimaginable what it would be like bringing an All Ireland Senior Club back to your club

Magic for Antrim and Ulster Hurling.

Great game, hard to watch a slow football game after watching a good game of hurling

The 6 pundits in the programme fairly got it wrong!

Congrats Loughgiel, awesome team and awesome support
Loughgiel fairly milked the post game celebrations--they wouldnt leave the pitch --still on it 10 mins after the footballers were out warming up! Funniest thing was a wee Loughiel fella about 6yo who was with the team during the celebrations running accross the pitch to from the pitch from Hogan to Cusuck on his own with a hurl as if he owned the place--about 15mins after the footballers were out warming up--tbf i'd till be on the pitch celebratin if i was ever so lucky!

Anyone who thought Watson was taking a point instead of going for his second goal is clearly a lunatic who knows fcuk all about anything.
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Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: Gold on March 17, 2012, 10:45:33 PM
Great win. Difference was the goal chances were taken by the Shamrocks. At the start of both halves Culderry looked like they may open up and get in for goals but they never really did and any time they did shots werent hit with conviction. They were in for goal in the first minute but hit it wide. Had they ever got ahead of Loughiel i fear the Shamrocks may have been in trouble.

Watson wasnt on the ball that much but every time he was, he was effective. His first goal he started and finished and the next 2 were awesome. What a free he struck to the net, i was hoping he'd take the point.

In the 2nd half he didnt see it much but when he did he drew frees or took a score (one of which however was clearly wide but who cares!) when they were needed so for me he was as clear a man of the match as you'll ever see.

Number 4 for Shamrocks was great all day too.

Shamrocks 2 corner forwards were getting beaten to most balls in 2nd half, the ball wouldnt stick anytime it went to them, they were being marked by physically superior players and i thought it would be Loughgiel's undoing. But to be fair 15 got the 1st goal and the 2 wee boys made a couple of big plays near the end when scores were needed.

Loughgiel's tackling was brilliant, Culderry couldnt get a strike at goal

What a win.

Unimaginable what it would be like bringing an All Ireland Senior Club back to your club

Magic for Antrim and Ulster Hurling.

Great game, hard to watch a slow football game after watching a good game of hurling

The 6 pundits in the programme fairly got it wrong!

Congrats Loughgiel, awesome team and awesome support
Loughgiel fairly milked the post game celebrations--they wouldnt leave the pitch --still on it 10 mins after the footballers were out warming up! Funniest thing was a wee Loughiel fella about 6yo who was with the team during the celebrations running accross the pitch to from the pitch from Hogan to Cusuck on his own with a hurl as if he owned the place--about 15mins after the footballers were out warming up--tbf i'd till be on the pitch celebratin if i was ever so lucky!
Agreed, very solid for a 19yr old debutant
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Post by: Gold on March 17, 2012, 11:30:52 PM
Just thought at the time a point would keep the momentum going. Knew he'd go for goal. O'Mullan was shouting at him to take his point though. Great goal
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Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
If Watson gets a decent stint with Antrim and there is any justice, Winker would get an All Star. At some stage these awarsds should be about the best players in the position not which teams get to the AIF.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
As saffron said, winker was always going to go for goal. It's his thing that he does. He can strike a ball like I've never seen anyone else strike a ball.

I hope now, that all the boys on this site and elsewhere who have any doubt about winkers ability in the big games now understand just how good he his. Time to wind your neck in and appreciate him because no other club in Ireland has a player like him.

Plus he's mad to get playing for Antrim now. According to himself. 
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 01:26:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 17, 2012, 07:35:36 PM
Congrats to loughgiel. The best team won by a country mile. They look a serious outfit now after this campaign.

Some story after their years losing county finals. Those boys still involved must be proud men tonight
Skull , it was those defeats that kept us going. We have an inner belief and a respect for other that is unreal. We not only knew we'd win the Antrim championship again we knew we'd win the All Ireland again and we will win it again. It's in us.
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Post by: BennyCake on March 18, 2012, 01:40:40 AM
Congratulations to Loughgiel. Fantastic performance, and a great boost for Antrim hurling.
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Post by: bannside on March 18, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Superb all round display. The tackling and defending off the ball was the most impressive feature for me. Sincere Congratulations to all the management and players from everyone in Portglenone. Unbelievable achievement.
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Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on March 18, 2012, 09:28:29 AM
What a day, echo all the sentiments posted, just fantastic atmosphere and comradeship, spare a thought for Joe Brady(6) Coolderry thought he had a superb game, the guy was immense and only for him the game would have been a non contest in the 1st half! bdgtt thought the Ref was excellent and as predicted let the game go, so stick that in your pipe, for once people like you can leave the Ref's alone!
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Post by: BlackandAmber on March 18, 2012, 09:39:07 AM
Some game!!! Some win !!! Coolderry was a really good side. Taking them 4 goals and comin out in the second half like they done showed that but Loughgeil took it and came back again. Played gr8 and deserved to win. They were the better team. Congratulations. Youse are ten time better tahn youse where in the Antrim championship. Well done.
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Post by: Aerlik on March 18, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 17, 2012, 10:04:12 PM
PS - With a great  team like that, and throw in the best from dunloy, the dall and the best of the rest, should Antrim not be doing better ?

Therein lies the key to the downfall  :P
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
Brilliant result, not only will this result put us (Antrim) back on the map it will improve the overall hurling within Antrim, Dunloy and Cushendall will be looking at the game yesterday thinking, if only. Loughgiel brought a different style to the normal hurling they are famed for. The hooking, hassling, blocking and sheer intensity in the tackling was never matched, for me this was the reason they were never going to be beat.

This part of hurling is not really liked in some parts, the fitness showed and fair fcuks to their physical trainer for getting them to that point, fair fucks to Jim also, for bringing a different view/voice/opinion and fair fcuks to PJ for bringing it all together. Be difficult having an outsider in your camp (we've had them ;)) but they usually don't have the hang ups with the politics of a club, so its the hurling they are focused on and not the shite that goes on within the club.

Sie, some lads were saying Watson was quiet, he scored 3-7 his 3rd goal was outstanding but I also thought he was quiet for parts, that sound silly I know but maybe it's because we expect him to be everywhere. I'd say in the semi final he was on the ball more than yesterday. I wish we had players that were quiet and scored 3-7!!

So that's that, Rossa up next to stop Loughgiel getting back to Croker. Cushendall will want to stop them also, and i hope for our sakes that they focus on them rather than us, eye off the ball and all that ;)
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Post by: Aerlik on March 18, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
Delighted for the Shams.  Just disappointed that it wasn't shown on Setanta Sports.  I stayed off the gas yesterday to enjoy the game only to find it wasn't on.  Feckit.  Ah well, no headache today. :)
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Post by: btdtgtt on March 18, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
Party still goin or stopped then started again sie?

Congrats all round again - think we should make a rule that winker is never again questioned on this board!

Mibag I thought the ref was terrible ruined the game! Joking!!!!

Shamrocks shamrocks shamrocks!

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Post by: saffronog on March 18, 2012, 10:32:41 AM
congratulatinos to the shamrocks, absolutely superb.  they can walk even taller now and join elite clubs in ireland who have 2 all irelands.  as ulster and antrim hurling fan it means i have more pride going to games in the south now for the shamrocks played and won in some style.  Watson wasn't on the ball as much as semi Mr2 correct there.  However there was very few times when on it that it he didn't use it to the full potential.  as for striking a hurling ball there are few blessed with how sweet he can hit it.  that free he took was sensational.  thought the corner back R McCloskey exceptional display and shay casey ? corner forward and these fellows are not going to disappear anytime soon.  just hope the team can stay together and who knows how many trophies they could lift.  too many body blows for a good coolderry team to recover from in the first half.  my only wish is i could get translation of what donal o grady and fluery were saying.  6 pundits in southern press all tipped the southern team surprise surprise.  well done Shams.  come on Saffrons today a rising tide !!!!!  Does this mean PJ will be managing the All-Stars next year ????  God help us in the bookies in ballymena now, the big man can be tight enough to listen to at the best of times
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Post by: Buswhacker on March 18, 2012, 11:27:54 AM
This victory will raise the standard of hurling in Antrim like it did in the 80's.Dunloy the Dall,Ballycastle and the Belfast teams will be chomping at the bit to get a go at the All- Ireland champions but they will have to raise their game to come close.But none of them are that far away,so we have interesting days ahead.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 18, 2012, 11:27:54 AM
This victory will raise the standard of hurling in Antrim like it did in the 80's.Dunloy the Dall,Ballycastle and the Belfast teams will be chomping at the bit to get a go at the All- Ireland champions but they will have to raise their game to come close.But none of them are that far away,so we have interesting days ahead.

+1 have posted that also. If I were manager the bigger teams I'd have taken them down to Croke yesterday.

Nothing like watching your neighbours winning an All Ireland club title to motivate a team
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Post by: Magicsponge on March 18, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
Congratulations Loughgiel, fantastic performance and a fantastic achievement. Hopefully this can be a boost to the county and we can make a bigger impact on leinster and the All Ireland. Another thing I was thinking was that that's the All Ireland Club football and hurling championships have came to Antrim in the space of 2 years that, not many counties can say that. Again Congratulations to Loughgiel, I hope you enjoy you're win, you truly deserved it.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 12:21:32 PM
Just had a wee drink out of the cup. Sweet boys, sweet!!! ;)
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Post by: theskull1 on March 18, 2012, 12:57:37 PM
Obviously too much coke in it. What cheapskate filled it   :)
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Vodka and red bull Skull. Pure classy! :)
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Post by: ogshead on March 18, 2012, 05:24:35 PM
Congratulations to the Shamrocks!! It was a great game to watch
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Post by: Sleeping giant on March 18, 2012, 05:35:40 PM
UNREAL!!! 8)
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 18, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Well done to Loughguile, fantastic game to watch...well deserved victory!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Surely Ronan McCloskey will get a call up to the county squad after yesterday's performance. A wee man who's as tough as they come.



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Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 18, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Surely Ronan McCloskey will get a call up to the county squad after yesterday's performance. A wee man who's as tough as they come.

a full back line with graffin hippy and ronan would be good. been a fan of his for a while. think JC will get a half back place for antrim with eddie and winker slotting into the forwards. joey is a great player but blows hot and cold. barney is also a great player. could he feature for antrim?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on March 18, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Surely Ronan McCloskey will get a call up to the county squad after yesterday's performance. A wee man who's as tough as they come.

a full back line with graffin hippy and ronan would be good. been a fan of his for a while. think JC will get a half back place for antrim with eddie and winker slotting into the forwards. joey is a great player but blows hot and cold. barney is also a great player. could he feature for antrim?

Has had great season but the lad is too small for county hurling, baulk up a bit and maybe he can have a go. That's the problem with Antrim hurling, great wristy hurlers but lack strength and height (bit like myself ;))
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
The one thing he's not short of is strength MR2. He's solid muscle under that shirt. Fair enough, he's not the tallest, but you wouldn't go through him for a short cut. And he has great stick work too. And unlike yourself he has a great head of hair. ;)   Maybe one for the future.
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Post by: Minder on March 18, 2012, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on March 18, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 06:49:22 PM
Surely Ronan McCloskey will get a call up to the county squad after yesterday's performance. A wee man who's as tough as they come.

a full back line with graffin hippy and ronan would be good. been a fan of his for a while. think JC will get a half back place for antrim with eddie and winker slotting into the forwards. joey is a great player but blows hot and cold. barney is also a great player. could he feature for antrim?

Has had great season but the lad is too small for county hurling, baulk up a bit and maybe he can have a go. That's the problem with Antrim hurling, great wristy hurlers but lack strength and height (bit like myself ;))

Did he play in the county final?
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Post by: Sleeping giant on March 18, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
Yeah,   Hurled corner bk all year
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Post by: Sportacus on March 18, 2012, 08:49:38 PM
Congratulations Shamrocks.  You did it in style.
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Post by: pullhard on March 18, 2012, 09:17:59 PM
Congrats to the shams!

Is there a any where online to watch or download the movie?
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 18, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
TG4 have a online player but it doesn't seem to be working with my browser.

http://www.tg4.ie/en/tg4-player.html
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Post by: pullhard on March 18, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
http://youtu.be/x6bcy1Pfsps found this
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
I've been asked to say thanks by a few of the players for the good luck messages. Thanks boys.  Much appreciated.

I'm only on my 6th time watching it now. funnily enough I still get nervous when Coolderry hit those 4 points after the break .
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Post by: Dubh driocht on March 18, 2012, 11:11:47 PM
Thoroughly enjoyed Loughgiel's win yesterday- well done to all concerned - skill and passion are a lethal combination -worthy champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 11:16:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
The one thing he's not short of is strength MR2. He's solid muscle under that shirt. Fair enough, he's not the tallest, but you wouldn't go through him for a short cut. And he has great stick work too. And unlike yourself he has a great head of hair. ;)   Maybe one for the future.

I'm not doubting the lads ability but for me, we (Antrim) need bigger players all over the pitch. At club level he'll win nearly every ball that comes his way, if he was marking Joe Canning he'll win maybe 1 from ten balls in.

When I was his age I had loads of hair :o
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 11:18:35 PM
The thing is he's proven himself over the last couple of years. He's no one hit wonder. And like I said he'll probably be one for the future but I've no doubt he'll play for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
Have been very impressed with the lad and he hurled the last 2 games really well.

Loughgiel have a great convyer belt of hurlers at the moment. Said before that they had the best potential of winning the All Ireland due to their squad, would have been great to see the likes of Chopper coming on late on when the game was won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2012, 11:32:53 PM
Chopper isn't on the panel anymore. As you said MR2,  we have a conveyor belt of youngsters coming through, and one thing about PJ, he isn't afraid to play them.
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Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 01:18:03 AM
Sie enjoy every moment! One thing is u are always behind ur club on this board but also fair when criticism levelled I hope u don't suffer too much for the drink! Ur club is on the national stage and to be honest doing Antrim proud.

One thing stocks in my mind from the game was fitness. I mean the Offaly no6 was overweight while loughiel looked like professional athletes.

It's typical of the gaa to be already looking at next year without savoring this but personally I feel this is the start of a loughiel dynasty in antrim. Dall are only side capable of beating them but shamrocks have mental edge now.

Mr2 I am biased towards Belfast but I don't see galls on the ballpark with loughiel.
Hardstation I don't see ur lads in Rossa staying sober enough to mount a challenge. St johns will probably split before the year is out ah hell I am demoralised for Belfast but uplifted by loughiel - never thought would say that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 19, 2012, 01:25:38 AM
Drink? I wouldn't touch the stuff. ;)

After talking to the players last night and today all they want now is 3 in a row. They've got a fortnight break if they want it. I guarantee you everyone of them lads will be training on Tuesday night.

Hard work and team spirit are hard to beat.

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Post by: crookes on March 19, 2012, 01:31:59 AM
great result, for Loughgiel and Antrim hurling! Credit to the hard work put in over the past two years for them lads.. Hopefully this leads to bigger and better things for Antrim clubs and the county!
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Post by: Forever Green on March 19, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
Well done to the Loughgiel lads. Sensational stuff, you`s done us proud. What else is there to say about Mr Watson? One of the best in Ireland when he plays like that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 19, 2012, 08:37:12 AM
Quote from: Forever Green on March 19, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
Well done to the Loughgiel lads. Sensational stuff, you`s done us proud. What else is there to say about Mr Watson? One of the best in Ireland when he plays like that

Great game on saturday and there's no doubt in anyones mind who were the best team.

Goals win games as they say, Casey took his well and had a huge part in Winkers first goal. When Winker got that free I knew the bollox was going low. He can hit a ball and has the swingers to go for it, confidence or arrogance, call it what you will, but you need the ability to back it up and he has. That good start helped other players who'd started off a bit jittery to settle into the game and take control. Coolderry did look a bit dangerous at times in their forwards but Loughgeil coped well with it. I thought Ding Gillan, McGarry and the young Seany Flood lookalike did what needed to be done to stop goals going in at the other end when required. DD had two shots the whole day to save, so credit where its due.
Once Loughgeil had rode out the storm of the first 10 minutes of the second half and didn't let their lead drop below 5 points with Winker all but killing off Coolderry with a superb point midway through the second half.

Well done to PJ and his backroom staff. There won't be a sheep milked for a day or two up there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on March 19, 2012, 09:11:34 AM
Id say there will be a rise in the loughgiel population around christmas time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 19, 2012, 10:45:47 AM
Congratulations Loughgiel, having went so close but ultimately failed no one knows more than us the tremendous achievement we have just witnessed from the Shamrocks.  Best team but a good bit, for me Eddie McCloskey was the catalyst and the game went pretty much as I expected other than scoring 4 goals.  I thought Neilly and Johnny where very comfortably through out. 

Big Brady hurled well with the few rushed clearances that he caught but overall he, and the full back line, lacked the pace to cope with Loughgiel forward unit, the pass that brought about the free that was scored was pure class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: crookes on March 19, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 19, 2012, 10:45:47 AM
Congratulations Loughgiel, having went so close but ultimately failed no one knows more than us the tremendous achievement we have just witnessed from the Shamrocks.  Best team but a good bit, for me Eddie McCloskey was the catalyst and the game went pretty much as I expected other than scoring 4 goals.  I thought Neilly and Johnny where very comfortably through out. 

Big Brady hurled well with the few rushed clearances that he caught but overall he, and the full back line, lacked the pace to cope with Loughgiel forward unit, the pass that brought about the free that was scored was pure class

That is as well as I have seen Martin Scullion play also, he was very impressive in my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Just watched the game again, with no distractions. couple of points: Loughgiel were cleaned out in midfield, Barney had his worst game of the year. Bar McCloskey in the HF line they were cleaned out there also. Joe Brady played better today (on replay) than i thought he did yesterday. Liam never touched leather from play until the 17th minute. and not again till the last few minutes. Not like him. The Loughgiel defence was immense throughout the game, and for me was the reason they won the match.

Coolderry had the lions share of possession in this game but could not create a goal opportunity bar the easy stop DD had to do in the second half.

As we all know goals win games, and Winker was outstanding when the opportunity came. the first goal, he started the move with a great handpass out to Casey and like a great forward followed it up by running into the danger area. His second was something we see at juvenile games when the best player has a pop at goal when you think he's going for a point, when hit right, they always go in. The 3rd goal was pure genius, kept his eye on the ball the whole time and showed a bit of bravery in tucking it away.

The Coolderry keeper was dung in fairness, should have come for Winkers 3rd goal and handling errors throughout the game.

I'm not being negative by the way lads, shows that Loughgiel still have room for improvement for next season which is worrying for the rest.

The midfielder brought on Dobbin, seemed a bit out of his depth and could have got a second yellow. Loughgiel did well and didn't panic at the start of the second half when they managed 5 scores,  which was the difference in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 19, 2012, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Just watched the game again, with no distractions. couple of points: Loughgiel were cleaned out in midfield, Barney had his worst game of the year. Bar McCloskey in the HF line they were cleaned out there also. Joe Brady played better today (on replay) than i thought he did yesterday. Liam never touched leather from play until the 17th minute. and not again till the last few minutes. Not like him. The Loughgiel defence was immense throughout the game, and for me was the reason they won the match.

Coolderry had the lions share of possession in this game but could not create a goal opportunity bar the easy stop DD had to do in the second half.

As we all know goals win games, and Winker was outstanding when the opportunity came. the first goal, he started the move with a great handpass out to Casey and like a great forward followed it up by running into the danger area. His second was something we see at juvenile games when the best player has a pop at goal when you think he's going for a point, when hit right, they always go in. The 3rd goal was pure genius, kept his eye on the ball the whole time and showed a bit of bravery in tucking it away.

The Coolderry keeper was dung in fairness, should have come for Winkers 3rd goal and handling errors throughout the game.

I'm not being negative by the way lads, shows that Loughgiel still have room for improvement for next season which is worrying for the rest.

The midfielder brought on Dobbin, seemed a bit out of his depth and could have got a second yellow. Loughgiel did well and didn't panic at the start of the second half when they managed 5 scores,  which was the difference in the end.

that's a very accurate assessment, agree on all points the combination of a very poor goalkeeper(and dodgy full back line) and on currant form the best forward in ireland was the difference. I think eddy mc closkeys contribution in the first half was vital to the half time cushion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 19, 2012, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Just watched the game again, with no distractions. couple of points: Loughgiel were cleaned out in midfield, Barney had his worst game of the year. Bar McCloskey in the HF line they were cleaned out there also. Joe Brady played better today (on replay) than i thought he did yesterday. Liam never touched leather from play until the 17th minute. and not again till the last few minutes. Not like him. The Loughgiel defence was immense throughout the game, and for me was the reason they won the match.

Coolderry had the lions share of possession in this game but could not create a goal opportunity bar the easy stop DD had to do in the second half.

As we all know goals win games, and Winker was outstanding when the opportunity came. the first goal, he started the move with a great handpass out to Casey and like a great forward followed it up by running into the danger area. His second was something we see at juvenile games when the best player has a pop at goal when you think he's going for a point, when hit right, they always go in. The 3rd goal was pure genius, kept his eye on the ball the whole time and showed a bit of bravery in tucking it away.

The Coolderry keeper was dung in fairness, should have come for Winkers 3rd goal and handling errors throughout the game.

I'm not being negative by the way lads, shows that Loughgiel still have room for improvement for next season which is worrying for the rest./b[]

The midfielder brought on Dobbin, seemed a bit out of his depth and could have got a second yellow. Loughgiel did well and didn't panic at the start of the second half when they managed 5 scores,  which was the difference in the end.
The first thing big Neilly said to me was " we didn't even play that well. There's more than that in us". That about sums up the mentality of this team.

Our half forwards didn't stop running all day and left plenty of spaces for the forwards to utilise. Barney played well enough, blocked and cleared a lot of ball. Jc was brilliant, rmcc was brilliant, neilly was brilliant, Ding was brilliant..............I'll stop now.  :)  I wouldn't want to upset anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 19, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
Make sure the TV is safe.Hear they're looking for one in Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 19, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 19, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
Make sure the TV is safe.Hear they're looking for one in Cushendall.
I wonder what Phil Coulter has to say about the blatant plagiarism shown on last nights news. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 19, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
Hear that the Cushendall TV story is not true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 19, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 19, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
Hear that the Cushendall TV story is not true.

What was the story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
Watson steaming on the news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 19, 2012, 07:00:45 PM
He's not the only one, :). If anyone deserves a drink or two he does.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2012, 07:01:49 PM
No doubts about that!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:14:24 PM
Anyone wanna share the cushendall story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:14:24 PM
Anyone wanna share the cushendall story?

What age are you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:29:04 PM
Why what am I missing here?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:29:04 PM
Why what am I missing here?!

Is it a hurling debate or what goes on in a bar? Loughgiel have just won the top prize and you're fishing for crap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:45:04 PM
Jesus mr2 someone posted something about cushendall I asked what it meant - what da f**k is ur problem with that and how is it fishing for crap? Should I run all posts by you or u just wanna talk to urself on the forum?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 19, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
Its obvious the best team on the day won. I would agree with Milltowns outlook on the game. What Loughgiel had over Coolderry was that they were clinical. Watson didn't get the ball as much as he probably have liked but he surely made it count when he did. Obviously it was wise to keep as much ball away from Joe Brady as possible and I think only one poc-out went down the centre. He cleaned up what ball went his way but he was never going to be able to win much out the wings. I don't think he was given time to actually pick out a pass as he was quickly closed down.

Coolderry had got inside the Loughgiel FB line a couple of times in first 15 mins or so but their touch seriously let them down. Coolderry keeper and full back were bomb scares.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Square Ball on March 19, 2012, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 19, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
Watson steaming on the news

and fair play to him, he and the team deserve to drink for a week if they want. thought the full back line were fantastic and never gave an forward a second on the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 19, 2012, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 19, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
Its obvious the best team on the day won. I would agree with Milltowns outlook on the game. What Loughgiel had over Coolderry was that they were clinical. Watson didn't get the ball as much as he probably have liked but he surely made it count when he did. Obviously it was wise to keep as much ball away from Joe Brady as possible and I think only one poc-out went down the centre. He cleaned up what ball went his way but he was never going to be able to win much out the wings. I don't think he was given time to actually pick out a pass as he was quickly closed down.

Coolderry had got inside the Loughgiel FB line a couple of times in first 15 mins or so but their touch seriously let them down. Coolderry keeper and full back were bomb scares.

agree brady was the man to avoid but he did get to a lot of poc outs, thought like mr2 midfield and half forward line of shams didn't win much ball. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 19, 2012, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:29:04 PM
Why what am I missing here?!

Is it a hurling debate or what goes on in a bar? Loughgiel have just won the top prize and you're fishing for crap.

never far away from the moral high ground MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 19, 2012, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 19, 2012, 07:00:45 PM
He's not the only one, :). If anyone deserves a drink or two he does.

as long as he doesn't take it as serious as his training.  off course these men deserve the spoils. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 07:45:04 PM
Jesus mr2 someone posted something about cushendall I asked what it meant - what da f**k is ur problem with that and how is it fishing for crap? Should I run all posts by you or u just wanna talk to urself on the forum?

No, keep your posts to yourself ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
Yeah cos keeping posts to oneself is really the basis for an Internet chat board. If u wanna cry like a school girl about posts u don't want then gurn to whoever posted the comment - I merely enquired what it meant. And likewise when u post ur Bollocks I can ignore it without crying about stuff u don't like. Poor mr2 can't control his own thread - boo hoo start a new one with ur toys back in the pram. And thanks I did get a direct message exposing the dall story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 19, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Let us face it Shamrocks are the best team in Ireland. The "aye buts" and armchair pundits with their amateur analysis will never change that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2012, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 19, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
Yeah cos keeping posts to oneself is really the basis for an Internet chat board. If u wanna cry like a school girl about posts u don't want then gurn to whoever posted the comment - I merely enquired what it meant. And likewise when u post ur Bollocks I can ignore it without crying about stuff u don't like. Poor mr2 can't control his own thread - boo hoo start a new one with ur toys back in the pram. And thanks I did get a direct message exposing the dall story.

Think you'll find they are called a PM, private message.

It's not my thread either.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 20, 2012, 01:31:43 AM
First of all a mighty congratulations to Shamrocks, the best team won by a country mile, Better hurlers and betters tactis. From a Cushendall point of view i'd our lads have to be kicking themselves in letting two finals slip v Shamrocks as i believe there's not much between the teams starting 15 , although Loughgiels bench is much much better than ours. The previous year when big favourites v Dunloy we were tore apart.  l hope we take a kick up the backside as i'm sure Dunloy will and push for the county title again this year. I don't mean to slight the Town as i think they aren't at that level yet, as as for Rossa they have the hurlers but what effort will they put in this is anybody's guess. l always find it strange how our teams can go to All Irelands and put in great shows and then come home and those performances seems a million years ago. Anyway the grass getting cut tells us its near that time of year again, thank god, Loughgiels achievement will add some spice to the Leagues and championships thats for sure.
Does anybody know the fixtures yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 20, 2012, 09:26:43 AM
James H....... from the time the County final was played Loughgiel's game went up to another level.Their work rate,fitness and general play in the All- Ireland semi and final was way above anything they showed in the County championship.
The other Antrim teams will need to come up to that standard to compete.....should be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2012, 09:57:24 AM
It is inevitable that LG's form will come back down a notch, they couldnt maintain those heights playing across the full season.

Add to this the fact the they will have 6-7 boys away playing with the county team to the end of the July, makes it difficult to keep the high levels. Will turn into a really long season for alot of the boys, they have been on the go since last Feb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 20, 2012, 09:26:43 AM
James H....... from the time the County final was played Loughgiel's game went up to another level.Their work rate,fitness and general play in the All- Ireland semi and final was way above anything they showed in the County championship.
The other Antrim teams will need to come up to that standard to compete.....should be interesting.

Yes we (Naomh Gall) have done that for a right few years, it will come to an end also. Maintaining those levels is very difficult. Dunloy did it for ten years also. Loughgiel will be hard to stop no doubt about that. But here's the thing about the Championship, a wet night, tight game a man sent off or Winker injured, a miss call by some referee  ;), these factors can cause a shock. No back doors in the Antrim Championship.

I'm looking forward to the games this year, would love to be 25 again :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 20, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Buswhacker, Shamrocks did lift their performances no doubt. What i'm saying that all the County representives have done so 95% of the time, we have had some great performances against Doora Barefield, and De La Salle, and a couple of poor ones and even those have always been way above our county campaigns. My question was why can we not keep that up? NAG1 has probably hit the nail on the head, i think after we were beaten by DLS we started with 9 panelists on the County panel a couple dropped of , add in minors and u21s some nights we only had 5/6 at training with more management, than players. I think in Antrim that's is always going to be a problem as good club hurlers aren't as plentiful as in other Counties. Perhaps our hurlers know they are up against it and have to raise their game, although in my opinion on a good day we could have beaten Coolderry, yes i know we werent there and didnt, its only an opinion and doesn't take anything away from Shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2012, 10:41:38 AM
Obviously the shamrocks have raised the bar - they are on a different level at the minute.

But let's not forget - only a Neil mc manus injury and a penalty call won the the county championship!

Cushendall will not forget that anyway!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2012, 10:47:36 AM
Did neil mcmanus not play two years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on March 20, 2012, 10:59:45 AM
Congrats to loughgiel great to see an Ulster team win an AI in hurling. Fullback line was superb as was the CHB and Watson. Joey Scullion also got through a pile of work. I was disappointed TG4 didn't show any post match interviews.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2012, 11:39:30 AM
Neil missed this years final and the penalty changed the game - I am not for one second detracting from any achievment sie!

The point I am making is that when your lads go in search of the hat trick it is not a foregone conclusion - and again I dont think anyone in loughiel thinks it is either.

But hey thats for another day - just enjoy the Tommy Moore for a while yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2012, 11:54:06 AM
Having talked to most of the players and management over the last few days the one thing that I took from the conversations was that they really want to win 3 in a row really badly. That's their focus now. As I'm sure it is the focus of their opponents to stop the all-Ireland champions.

It all makes for a very interesting championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 20, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
Sie not that it changes the result , it may have but Neil broke his collarbone on 18 minutes in that final, so even if Magill had of forced a reply or a winner Neil was out for 6 weeks anyway. Neil wanted to continue and rightly or wrongly he did, shows his commitment to us. As i said earlier i dont think there is much between any of the three teams, Dunloy with new management as with the Dall will be busting a gut as will I'm sure Galls, so role on Easter Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2012, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 20, 2012, 11:39:30 AM
Neil missed this years final and the penalty changed the game - I am not for one second detracting from any achievment sie!

The point I am making is that when your lads go in search of the hat trick it is not a foregone conclusion - and again I dont think anyone in loughiel thinks it is either.

But hey thats for another day - just enjoy the Tommy Moore for a while yet!

Though in fairness it was a penalty and maybe, just maybe if Carson had have knocked that one over the bar the game could well have been beyond Loughgiel. If's, buts and maybe's as Bushwahacker rightly says. Loughgiel are deserving champs.

Some craic, I'd settle for reaching our first final FFS  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
You should have been in the final last year MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
U would think with all the interest around Antrim club hurling we could get a set of fixtures out then!

Yes sie I think the attitude of loughiel is worrying for other teams - can't see them getting distracted for long.

Still think dall only team capable of beating them - dunloy about regaining status and challenging again this year.

Sure isn't that what makes it all son interesting!

The shamrocks won't worry too much at this stage mind u!
I would say the party is still going!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
Big party last night again. Yer man Sidebottom stayed about after doing the interviews for the news and got drunk in the pound, dancing around the place if you don't mind. Good craic all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 20, 2012, 01:09:02 PM
Congrats to the Shamrocks - great day for Loughgiel (and dare I say Antrim)!

Was an extremely unusual (and I have to say enjoyable) position to be an as an Antrim man watching a game in Croke Park and it being a foregone conclusion  with 10 minutes to go - I wont say it was done and dusted at half time as Coolderry were always going to give it a bit of a rattle at the start of the second half. I'd say as with the semi the mental strength created by the heartbreak of 6 in a row stood to Loughgiel when the bit of pressure came on.

Met a Coolderry man yesterday who despite his disappointment was raving about the support Loughgiel had in Croker and it really was very impressive.

How many are going to the County - DD, Eddie, Winker? Was there a suggestion Johnny Campbell might give up on the County scene? Any one else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on March 21, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
Heard the first Div 1 fixtures for the year

Shamrocks v Cuchullians
Ruairi Og  v Portaferry
Ballycastle v St johns
Ballycran v Ballygalget

i'm not sure if the last 2 fixtures are the right way round, will be some craic in Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2012, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: JamesH on March 21, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
Heard the first Div 1 fixtures for the year

Shamrocks v Cuchullians
Ruairi Og  v Portaferry
Ballycastle v St johns
Ballycran v Ballygalget

i'm not sure if the last 2 fixtures are the right way round, will be some craic in Loughgiel.

Yes guard of honour also  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on March 22, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
Serious result and performance from the Shamrocks on saturday. I roared and shout as if I was from that part of the country. Winker simply outstanding his last goal, beautiful skill. Great lift for the hurling folk in Antrim also. Well done to all concerned!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
It's been decided to take a 6 weeks training break to give everyone a rest. Well deserved I think. Back training in earnest in May.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: windyshepardhenderson on March 22, 2012, 07:45:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
It's been decided to take a 6 weeks training break to give everyone a rest. Well deserved I think. Back training in earnest in May.
Probably take that long for you boys to sober up  ;)

Congratulations to all at Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: windyshepardhenderson on March 22, 2012, 07:45:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
It's been decided to take a 6 weeks training break to give everyone a rest. Well deserved I think. Back training in earnest in May.
Probably take that long for you boys to sober up  ;)

Congratulations to all at Loughgiel.
More than likely, it's one of the players stag do today.     :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
Good god loughiel must be more like las Vegas at the minute!

I think the longer break is a good idea - will guard against stale-ness next year.
Also you guys have sufficient number of hurlers to rest and give others their chance to break into the side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2012, 05:54:45 PM
Fair fucks to the hurlers in the second half, the first half performance was one of the worst I have seen from them. Limerick will be a big step up from Laois next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 25, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
Thought the same minder, at about 10 down thought we had it,  see cork turned over the cats
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
Fair play to Oisins for yesterday's welcome. Class!  Much appreciated. :) 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on March 25, 2012, 07:03:45 PM
Great second half of hurling today was worth the wait after watching an awful football performance and terrible 1st half from the hurlers. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 08:08:51 PM
It's hardly a travesty. He's young and if he doesn't get on the panel this year he'll get on it again.

Funny old game today. Played with no urgency whatsoever in the first half summed up by 4 points. 2-14 second half when we finally switched on. Lot of work to be done but good fight shown to get back into it.

Definitely a few loughgiel guys would add to the team but our weakest line would be our half forward line - only Eddie McCloskey to go in there which is a worry. (That's assuming Liam Watson would be in full forward)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 08:14:08 PM
Joey scullion? Although he's no 14 he never plays there. He's another that has stood up to be counted this year. He usually ends up playing everywhere from full forward to half back.

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but he gives it everything. He's been brilliant for us for us the last 18 months.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.

You weren't at the match then? Corner back wasn't the problem.

The main thing for me was this, very simple too. Laois played the extra man in defence, the Antrim management could not figure out what to f**king do!!! Laois won all breaking ball and took their scores when they had the chance. Hippy didn't know where to be positioned and got lost, ball was going out to the wings and they made the most of the ball going in.

I can't get it when managers don't have plans in place when a tactic is being used by the other team, they continued to let Hippy do what he was doing. The other thing is this, while it worked in the end, humping long ball into a big fullforward is, in my view, dung.

Second half, Antrim played so different the passion for winning the ball was great, McFaul was great when he came on the second time, took his scores well. They made McManus the spare man and moved him up field putting Laois on the back foot, they did fcuk all also!! until it was too late and we were back in the game.

Strange game, dull first half hate talking about players but (and i wont) we are carrying some players who started today for sure

SIE, you can't put club game performances on a par to county game performances. I'm sorry but don't let that judge your ideas on what's best for the county team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 25, 2012, 08:55:27 PM
thought karl stewart was little off form, after being fantastic the last day i saw him (Wexford).  a few lads pretty poor and shouldn't be there i agree.  McCloskey worth a punt, but its forwards i reckon, not so sure SIE about Scullion, would be more interested in seeing the brother up.  half forward line was very poor in particular
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
No MR2, I wasn't at it. I wasn't casting aspersions upon those who were playing at all by the way.

Just putting by tuppence out there, he's been brilliant in the two biggest games you can play in club hurling. But sure, this is Antrim, he's too young to consider now.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
But sure, this is Antrim, he's too young to consider now.

Yes you're right  ???

Jerry Wallace has mentioned there were Loughgiel players he didn't have in the panel he may be interested in as far as I know. I would guess McCloskey / Joey Scullion(assuming he isn't there already which I'm not sure about) isn't there.

Graffin is the best corner back in the county by a long way and McGourty is usually worthy of his place too. McCloskey worth a shout but hardly a travesty if a 19 year old gets a year with the u21s...

Yeah I think Joey Scullion would be a better option in half forwards.  Too much ball going into half forwards and straight back out. McFall did well there though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2012, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.

big time we need the shams back and if young mc closkey was the corner back he deserves a crack after his performance last weekend, him hippy and graffin is a good full back line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2012, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.

You weren't at the match then? Corner back wasn't the problem.

The main thing for me was this, very simple too. Laois played the extra man in defence, the Antrim management could not figure out what to f**king do!!! Laois won all breaking ball and took their scores when they had the chance. Hippy didn't know where to be positioned and got lost, ball was going out to the wings and they made the most of the ball going in.

I can't get it when managers don't have plans in place when a tactic is being used by the other team, they continued to let Hippy do what he was doing. The other thing is this, while it worked in the end, humping long ball into a big fullforward is, in my view, dung.

Second half, Antrim played so different the passion for winning the ball was great, McFaul was great when he came on the second time, took his scores well. They made McManus the spare man and moved him up field putting Laois on the back foot, they did fcuk all also!! until it was too late and we were back in the game.

Strange game, dull first half hate talking about players but (and i wont) we are carrying some players who started today for sure

SIE, you can't put club game performances on a par to county game performances. I'm sorry but don't let that judge your ideas on what's best for the county team

spot on mr2, the sweeper left hippy all at sea(not his fault), the ball going in to forwards was dung but they where not moving much. I thought they should have tried some shooting from middle and half forward line or even running at them but those balls going in was giving me heartburn ffs. easy to blame the sideline but the shape laois where playing was hard to counteract. won the toss move a man back and shoot from far out with the wind. there first goal was a fumbling mistake from goalie. at least they did something at the break. I was tullamore last weekend and same thing we hit two points from play went 12 points down in second half and then started hurling. cant get my head round it

SIE joeys hard a fair few cracks at this level and struggled I'm afraid

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
 Do you mean to say that Joey would struggle in a county team made up of mostly Div 2 and 3 players.I think that's our problem we need to bring in more Div1 players.I  don't see how Div.2 and 3 players can be up to it,given the standard of opposition they meet week after week. Do you think the county team would beat Loughgiel ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:09:40 PM
What do I know? Yous are all right.   Isn't that correct MR2?

I wasn't at the Antrim match today. But that's not what I'm basing my opinion on. I'm basing it on what I've been seeing in front of my eyes for the last 8 months or so. And I've seen a lot of him. He's a gem.

Maybe you are right about "one for the future" but I don't think kilkenny, tipp or cork think like that. Get him in there and see what happens.

Joey this year is a different player from previous years.  He knows what's expected of him and he has produced the goods. He's the boy that's still putting his body on the line back in the half backs when the rest are up hoping for a jammy point. And he'll gladly win the ball and give it. We couldn't do without him. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 10:18:58 PM
Made up of mostly division 2 and 3 players? Herron, Gettins,  the corner back from Rossa ,Stewart, Hamill and McToal were our non division 1 players .

That's 6 from 15 which hardly qualifies as "mostly". You also consider Glenariff were relegated at end of last year then 2 of those 6 were playing division 1 for the last good few years. Only 1 of those players is division 3 as well.

Other counties pick non division 1 players too so I don't see why we can't do it. There's no reason individuals from these teams can't be among the best in the county.

Club and county level are very different as alluded to previously buswhacker. We'll never know if Loughgiel would beat that county team but it's fair to say you're probably getting a bit carried away with that statement

Joey Scullion has struggled at county level with antrim but at times he struggled at club level previously and was excellent this year. He probably deserves a crack but with Watson and McCloskey to come back into the forwards he'd have to fight for a place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Do you mean to say that Joey would struggle in a county team made up of mostly Div 2 and 3 players.I think that's our problem we need to bring in more Div1 players.I  don't see how Div.2 and 3 players can be up to it,given the standard of opposition they meet week after week. Do you think the county team would beat Loughgiel ?

dont know if he would struggle this time round or not but hes had his chances in the past. imm game on for giving him another shot but if you cant accept hes up against better players at county level. by the way tipp and kilkenny play division 2 and three players so thats sorted that theory. Imm glad your not our intercounty manager. I hope you get loughgeil when pj steps down, will give the rest of us a better chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
Carried away ?.......... only a thought.But there are players in Dunloy,Loughgiel and the Dall who I would have in my team who never get a chance at county level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Boys. Its hypothetical. But let's get this into perspective. We played glenariffe yesterday. All but 4 players were reserves. Beat them by 8 or 9 points. On that way of going should our reserves not get a chance at the county?  Let's face it, they beat all in front of them last year and were unlucky not to beat glenariffe in their  warm up match for the championship. I'd fancy our reserves against a few in the championship. I'm sure Cushendall would too.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2012, 10:31:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Boys. Its hypothetical. But let's get this into perspective. We played glenariffe yesterday. All but 4 players were reserves. Beat them by 8 or 9 points. On that way of going should our reserves not get a chance at the county?  Let's face, they beat all in front of them last year and were unlucky not to beat glenariffe in their warm up match for the championship.



Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
Carried away ?.......... only a thought.But there are players in Dunloy,Loughgiel and the Dall who I would have in my team who never get a chance at county level.

Do you think any of your reserves should get a crack at the county team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
Yes. But I'm not going to name them here. they'll get their chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:35:47 PM
Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
Yes. But I'm not going to name them here. they'll get their chance.

I think the heat is getting to some of you. So fellas that can't get on the Loughgiel team, and are probably kept off the Loughgiel team by fellas that haven't been able to cut it at IC level will get their chance with the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2012, 10:48:24 PM
With our seniors first, but yes, they will. Btw, we don't have an ic team. But won everything at senior reserves at a canter. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
Loughgiel reserves would probably win the IC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2012, 11:11:34 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:35:47 PM
Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.

That's not the point though - it's all relative.

Also a point to note is at the minute we only have the pick of 4 from 8 division 1 teams anyway.

I think maybe we should wait a month or so debating with some of you boys given some of the stuff you're coming out with ???

Almost all of the cushendall team have got some kind of county experience and most of those that haven't but merit it are "up and coming". Dunloy I would say have a few boys who maybe could be given a bit more time. Loughgiel would be pretty much the same as cushendall in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 25, 2012, 11:22:14 PM
I would say Ronan McCloskey would be a good enough option for the squad(not a starter yet) but if I was from Loughgiel i'd be happier if he waited til next year. What happenned Kevin Molloy?
I know the Loughgiel boys will bring back a few better options but we had very little on the bench

Good to see Shorty back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:35:47 PM
Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.

Middletown Armagh beat the Munster champions, a Limerick Div 2 team. Would you have thought that Limerick Div 2 was better than Antrim Div 2?

We beat the Galway Intermediate champions, does that mean we (Antrim) is better than all those teams?

Bushwacker, think before you post please.

Getting carried away here, we were talking about Antrim's performance yesterday and all of a sudden Loughgiel will beat county teams, their reserve players should be on the county team, and Div 2/3 players are crap and shouldn't be on the team!!!! WTF I took on a lot of sun yesterday and head/dome slightly burnt but some guys out there are delirious!!

Anyways, Limerick next. Will Antrim have their main players back? If they do, by the posts on here, we should hammer them considering what Loughgiel did to their best club team ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
Ok, Antrim v Limerick this weekend.  Starting team assuming everyone back? Lets hear them..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 26, 2012, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:35:47 PM
Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.

Middletown Armagh beat the Munster champions, a Limerick Div 2 team. Would you have thought that Limerick Div 2 was better than Antrim Div 2?

We beat the Galway Intermediate champions, does that mean we (Antrim) is better than all those teams?

Bushwacker, think before you post please.

Getting carried away here, we were talking about Antrim's performance yesterday and all of a sudden Loughgiel will beat county teams, their reserve players should be on the county team, and Div 2/3 players are crap and shouldn't be on the team!!!! WTF I took on a lot of sun yesterday and head/dome slightly burnt but some guys out there are delirious!!

Anyways, Limerick next. Will Antrim have their main players back? If they do, by the posts on here, we should hammer them considering what Loughgiel did to their best club team ;)
+1 on all the above,  I hope we have w**ker and eddie,dd back  for limerick as offlay done us a favour. I would be quite happy to stay in division 1b anyway unless some louhgeil reserve's commit to the panel then we could give kilkenny and tipp a good rattle in 1a LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
If we were being selfish as a club then we wouldnt want to see too many of our players head up to the county. I know it can help raise an individuals skill/speed etc but collectively if there are too many from one club it can harm them. For a number of reasons, mainly burnout, and missing out on playing week in week out with club team mates. So in that regard I hope we dont have too many up at the county. But obviously I want to see best for county as well so tough call.

On Ronan mc closkey, im not sure id send him up just yet. Still developing his game and more experience with club needed first but im sure he'll be a star for the future.

I also think that the winning and losing of a game is usually on the half forward line. The half back line is usually one of the strongest on any team and if that can be broken then the supply line to the inside forwards is the key to victory.
Ironically were antrim seem to be struggling were we have had a lot of joy in our half forward line in Loughgiel.  They have had an amzing work ethic throughout the all ireland campaign both offensively and importantly defensively too. They dont often get the plaudits because they feed the inside forwards and it is them that get on the scoresheet but ultimately its the result that counts so just as important!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 26, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on March 25, 2012, 10:35:47 PM
Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.

Middletown Armagh beat the Munster champions, a Limerick Div 2 team. Would you have thought that Limerick Div 2 was better than Antrim Div 2?

We beat the Galway Intermediate champions, does that mean we (Antrim) is better than all those teams?

Bushwacker, think before you post please.

Getting carried away here, we were talking about Antrim's performance yesterday and all of a sudden Loughgiel will beat county teams, their reserve players should be on the county team, and Div 2/3 players are crap and shouldn't be on the team!!!! WTF I took on a lot of sun yesterday and head/dome slightly burnt but some guys out there are delirious!!

Anyways, Limerick next. Will Antrim have their main players back? If they do, by the posts on here, we should hammer them considering what Loughgiel did to their best club team ;)

Well said MR. There's always serious over reaction after some games. Need to take stock of things!

I would doubt the Loughgiel players will see any league action.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 09:57:23 AM
My team, if available

DD
A Graffin
Hippy
McGourty/Kerr If Ciaran isn't fit
N McAuley
McManus
Martin Scullion
Shane McNaughton
Shortty
McCloskey
Karl Stewart
S. McCrory
PJ O'Connell
Micko
Watson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
I assume ur trying to be controversial with a team like that MR2?? Any serious suggestions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 26, 2012, 10:03:08 AM
Marty Scullion won't be playing for Antrim this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 10:08:36 AM
Marty wont be playing, Mick in full forward???? Shane McNaughton (one of our best forwards) in midfield???? Come on MR2 try again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
If we were being selfish as a club then we wouldnt want to see too many of our players head up to the county. I know it can help raise an individuals skill/speed etc but collectively if there are too many from one club it can harm them. For a number of reasons, mainly burnout, and missing out on playing week in week out with club team mates. So in that regard I hope we dont have too many up at the county. But obviously I want to see best for county as well so tough call.

On Ronan mc closkey, im not sure id send him up just yet. Still developing his game and more experience with club needed first but im sure he'll be a star for the future.

I also think that the winning and losing of a game is usually on the half forward line. The half back line is usually one of the strongest on any team and if that can be broken then the supply line to the inside forwards is the key to victory.
Ironically were antrim seem to be struggling were we have had a lot of joy in our half forward line in Loughgiel.  They have had an amzing work ethic throughout the all ireland campaign both offensively and importantly defensively too. They dont often get the plaudits because they feed the inside forwards and it is them that get on the scoresheet but ultimately its the result that counts so just as important!

Another Loughgiel man, Shamrockman I hope you're not like thon Sham Man ;)

I thought in your last game that midfield and half forward (bar McCloskey) was cleaned out and you still won handy. For me it was the defence and FF line that did the damage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
Ok, Antrim v Limerick this weekend.  Starting team assuming everyone back? Lets hear them..

The bit in bold is what you wanted to hear i presume?

What's your team then Sham man?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 26, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 10:08:36 AM
Marty wont be playing, Mick in full forward???? Shane McNaughton (one of our best forwards) in midfield???? Come on MR2 try again

Shane in midfield for me to, he,s industrious and can pop them over form that range all day. hes only in the forwards because we have no options. I think dinny played him there with karl at CF. micko not going well at the moment.

welcome to the board shamrock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 10:34:03 AM
Cleaned out in mid field and half forward? Seems a bit of a strong comment considering we won the game by so much and these two areas are critical to success. I thought we done quite well in these areas but i respect your opinion. I take into consideration the workrate and overall play not just the scores. The Loughgiel system has been set up to cater to the inside forward line mainly to get the scores.

Anyway back to the team. I wasnt sure if you were serious because you have some pretty wild choices there but maybe you have reasoning behind them which is fair enough.  OK i'l have a look at the panal and come up with my suggestions then we can compare and slate eachothers lol. Be rght back..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 10:41:55 AM
Pretty obvious consensus on yesterdays game - sleeping at the start (maybe its a good sign of the times that we assumed we would beat Laois, although obviously thats not the way to approach any game). But in the 2nd half we switched on and came through eventually. It will be interesting to see what sort of starting XV develops over the coming weeks as the shamrocks come back on board. Also a few lads gettin exposed or staking claims.

Also great to see the hurling fixtures finally out - I can book my Monday's off and caravan weekend now!

Hardstation - I hear your lads had some pre-season work at the weekend? And that after you rebuked my tongue in cheek comment last time! Maybe not so much rumours started outside Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 10:47:05 AM
1) DD
2) A Graffin
3) Hippy
4) McGourty
5) N McAuley
6) Micko
7) Simon McCrory
8) Shorty
9) Barry McFall
10) Karl Stewart
11) Neil McManus
12) Eddie McCloskey
13) Shane McNaughton
14) Liam Watson
15) PJ O'Connell/J Scullion

Now I have done this quickly so its not flawless but heres my reasoning behind it.  Micko is not playing that well recently but still worth a start, he can play better at back than up front. 
We all know that its up front we need a bit more punch so ive strenghtened up the half forward line with good ball winners and carriers. 
Now the midfield is a little small and lacking in physicality but plenty of industry in these two players so given the players available i think this is as good as we got. 

The inside forward line with Shane and Liam are two players that like to roam about and get a lot of success with this and very deadly in front of the posts. the other spot is up for grabs and pjs stickwork and speed would make him a good choice but Joey has been very impressive for us this year with his physicalness and laying off ball and id love to see what he could do closer in to goals, especially bringing the others two lads into it (maybe just my red tinted galsses speaking here but could be worth a look)

The full back line and goalie pick themselves. My only concer would be mcgourty who maybe has lost a yard and strking lets him down but very good reader of the game.


So let the bashing begin! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 26, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 26, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 10:08:36 AM
Marty wont be playing, Mick in full forward???? Shane McNaughton (one of our best forwards) in midfield???? Come on MR2 try again

Shane in midfield for me to, he,s industrious and can pop them over form that range all day. hes only in the forwards because we have no options. I think dinny played him there with karl at CF. micko not going well at the moment.

welcome to the board shamrock

I would rather see the inside forward line with real teeth which Shane brings. Not sure we need a player like him in M/F as long as we have players who will work hard there to hook,block,break,disrupt. The Shams have created a system around 2 converted corner backs at MF and got it to work. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
1. DD
2. Graffin
3. Hippy
4. McGourty
5. McAuley
6. McManus
7. JC
8. Barney McAuley
9. Stewart
10. Shields
11. ?? - not sure who I'd have here
12. McCloskey
13. PJ
14. Watson
15 Shane McNaughton

McNaughton is a forward and only has played midfield to cover deficiencies elsewhere.

Not sure who I'd put in CHF. I think it's a position we don't have someone to fit into. Maybe McCloskey in there and Barry McFall on the wing. Think "shorty" is too light for midfield and would do better in the half forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 26, 2012, 11:22:51 AM
How could I forget about our own JC. OK That changes things..probably have JC staright swap for Micko in my team.  I really think that McManus needs to be moved up front, CHB is a critical position I Know but its not somewhere we fall down. It can be covered just as well with an average player but its the half forward line and up front we need the real strength and our best hurlers.

Not bad TommyGun but I think i could solve ur CH forward position with N McM and shuffle the backs a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:24:30 AM
Regardless of the rest of the year ahead Gettens does not deserve to be dropped after yesterday's performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
Minder you want to tell us about the weekend and your welcome for the 'Champions'?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
Minder you want to tell us about the weekend and your welcome for the 'Champions'?

All I could see was a "guard of honour" and a Loughgiel flag flying on one of the flag poles !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:24:30 AM
Regardless of the rest of the year ahead Gettens does not deserve to be dropped after yesterday's performance.

Yes i thought he played well also Minder, maybe unfair of me to drop the lad (Like Jerry reads this shite :o), just think there are better players.

I see we get Rossa and Glenariffe in our first two games FFS. We won't get anywher near promotion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
Minder you want to tell us about the weekend and your welcome for the 'Champions'?

All I could see was a "guard of honour" and a Loughgiel flag flying on one of the flag poles !

Could you not read the scoreboard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
Minder you want to tell us about the weekend and your welcome for the 'Champions'?

All I could see was a "guard of honour" and a Loughgiel flag flying on one of the flag poles !

Could you not read the scoreboard?

I only looked at it now and again why what was on it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Dissappointed to hear that MR2?

I would think you would be looking to push for promotion - Rossa and Glenarrife are two teams that will have looked at Galls as difficult points to pick up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 12:09:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2012, 11:30:48 AM
Minder you want to tell us about the weekend and your welcome for the 'Champions'?

All I could see was a "guard of honour" and a Loughgiel flag flying on one of the flag poles !

Could you not read the scoreboard?

I only looked at it now and again why what was on it?

That was my question?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Dissappointed to hear that MR2?

I would think you would be looking to push for promotion - Rossa and Glenarrife are two teams that will have looked at Galls as difficult points to pick up?

Not this year, but the boys will give her a lash and hopefully take some points from the games. If we do, it won't be pretty, that's for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
I watch all the city teams MR2 i think you play down Galls intent/ability!

There's so little between Oisins/Galls/Rossa and then Lambs and others can take wins on their day.

I would rather see out city teams in div1 obviously but it all does make for a great league.

Still think Glenariffe will go back up but early days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 26, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
I watch all the city teams MR2 i think you play down Galls intent/ability!

Good ole milltown has previous in this regard  :)

Some of his snippets from last year before they upset a few applecarts

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
Quote from: Joxer_man on July 31, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
tir na nog v lamh derg in the ihc quarter final will be worth a watch!!

Two evenly matched teams could go either way but i expect Lamhs to win this one.

They beat us not long ago and by all accounts (wasn't at it) they played really well. Though we aren't great and haven't been training


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 22, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
Any team news for us for the weekend MR2, I think the last time we played you guys in Belfast we drew having won a tight round Robin game earlier in the year.

I'm not playing ;D ;D

Na we have a few additions from the minors, bit inexperienced but keen as fcuk

We won't trouble yous. Ideally I'd like it to be tight for a the first half and then give it a lash for the last 30 minutes. We have had a decent league so far but only playing in Div 2 won't help us against Dunloy.

In a couple of years time we need to make a push for promotion and stay in the top flight for a while.

I played and scored in that match oh I wish I was young again!!

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
I think both games will go the way they are meant to go, Dunloy have been putting in a lot of effort lately and Cushendall always seemed to have too much in the end for Glenariffe.

As for us it's a case of being too good for Intermediate Championship and nowhere near committed enough (due to football commitments) to have a serious push at senior level




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
Skull, I thought we were mates :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 26, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
Skull, I thought we were mates :o
;D

I'm reminded of this Bushism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
Very good.  ;D :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 26, 2012, 08:52:52 PM
So then galls are training flat out and have switched priorities to hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 26, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Yes......yes it does
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
All went a bit dead on here!!    What was it nag was on about on the score board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
All went a bit dead on here!!    What was it nag was on about on the score board?

Yeah, somebody throw a hand grenade in the mix, usually that works a treat ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 28, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
9 Shams on Antrim panel ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 28, 2012, 03:21:35 PM
Not sure why JC and Winker would need more of a break than the rest - but I suppose thats between them and the managment so will leave it at that.

I assume he hasnt released then names of the other 2 until he speaks to them personally.

As for 9 on the panel - it reminds me a bit of the days when Sean McGuinness didnt fancy picking anyone outside of Dunloy. I am not sure even the Birrs or Portumnas would have had that contingent?

However, maybe it is a fair refelction for the
All-Ireland champions!
In terms of a squad but obviously not starting XV.

The marquee was a mis-hap but I thought I would leave it there SIE!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
Just the nine!!??

When will the reserves get a crack at it? As well as Barney played in the semi final I can't see him starting too many games, who'll do nets? DD has done well for years, will he step back in? The kepper on Sunday had some puck on him but mainly boomed it down the pitch. And maybe at fault for the first goal.

Joey may start and Eddie will start, so who'll get the boot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on March 28, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
So, DD, Chrissy, Winker, JC, Barney, Eddie, Joey - who'll be the other two? Neily McGarry and Ronan McCloskey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 28, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
Dd and Eddie to start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
DD nets for sure,  JC wing half, Eddie half forward, Watson corner forward.   The rest will be watching it I'd think,  Barney great club man past few seasons but if county was going right can't see him starting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 28, 2012, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea

probably didn't fancy it, but don't worry his propaganda machine will kick in shortly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 28, 2012, 08:04:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea

probably didn't fancy it, but don't worry his propaganda machine will kick in shortly

The brothers may have machines, but I don't think Kieran has
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2012, 09:07:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea

Calf injury im led to believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
So who dropped out for McCloskey to come in?

Would have to assume Hamill? What about Barry McFall? Where is this info from - could someone list the team?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2012, 11:07:59 PM
Thought Barry played well when he came on. Tough line the 3/4's. As said already, needs to be strong and score the odd point or two would be great. Though essential stop their strongest line dominating the play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 28, 2012, 11:51:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2012, 09:07:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2012, 06:41:57 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 28, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea

Calf injury im led to believe.

didnt know he kept beast was it a wee sharly, tell him not to stand behind it when its feeding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 28, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
So who dropped out for McCloskey to come in?

Would have to assume Hamill? What about Barry McFall? Where is this info from - could someone list the team?

I would say Hamill or micko are looking over the shoulders. how many shams trained last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2012, 12:05:29 AM
As much a the LG men were training as well, I think it can/could be demotivating for players dropped if these boys just wade in and take their place in the starting 15. Difficult when time is of the essence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 29, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
So who dropped out for McCloskey to come in?

Would have to assume Hamill? What about Barry McFall? Where is this info from - could someone list the team?

Darren Hamill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 29, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
So who dropped out for McCloskey to come in?

Would have to assume Hamill? What about Barry McFall? Where is this info from - could someone list the team?

Darren Hamill.

Goes out of the squad altogether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 09:57:39 AM
Antrim are 3/1 on Sunday to beat Limerick. Even money plus 5. With some lads from Loughgiel coming in surely we are odds on to beat them :o

Joking aside. If we play the same in the first half against Limerick like we did against Laois then Casement will be empty before half time. Maybe the heads weren't right leading into the game 'cause it's Laois' and they will be better focused because Limerick are a 'better' team. I hope they are focused, as the extra game will be better to have than not having, regardless of the bigger teams that lie in wait.

Another 11 quid?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Was it last year or the year before we played Limerick in loughgiel? 2 years I think  ???

Anyway we took a beating against a very powerful well drilled team. Don't believe our forward play has improved enough for it not to be tight affair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 29, 2012, 11:22:27 AM
That was last year Skull.

I think the Wexford match was £8?? Maybe I'm wrong. I'd say last week was £11 due to the double header.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
I think picking bets this weekend you always need to look at which teams have something to play for - are they pumped up with something to gain and if they don't maybe they'll be throwing out a 2nd string.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
Football games were £8 as they are Division 3. Wexford game was £11 I'm sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Was it last year or the year before we played Limerick in loughgiel? 2 years I think  ???

Anyway we took a beating against a very powerful well drilled team. Don't believe our forward play has improved enough for it not to be tight affair

Yes was down at it also Skull, hammered was what we were, played in the Glens to as it would benefit us  :o ;D Yeah to the tune of an 11 or 12 point loss. Was standing with a Limerick great also, Mark Foley. O'Grady in fairness had them running well and they were always going to win the league.

Our defence is slight better with Neil in CHB and Hippy playing FB this year, Keiran played that position last year (due to Hippy being injured) and didn't have the strength to stop Downes. We also have something to play for, as do Limerick of course. If we don't collapse in the first half then we could make a go it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
DD Quinn

Aaron Graffin
Cormac Donnelly
Kieran Mc Gourty

Neal Mc Auley
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Gettens

Karl Stewart
Paul Shiels

Simon Mc Crory
Michael Herron
Eddie McCloskey

PJ O Connell   
Conor Carson
Shane Mc Naughton

Seanan Mc Toal
John Kerr
Adrian Downey
Barry McFall
Barney Mc Auley
Joey Scullion
Declan Lynch
Colm McFall
Sean Mc Laughlin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
DD Quinn

Aaron Graffin
Cormac Donnelly
Kieran Mc Gourty

Neal Mc Auley
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Gettens

Karl Stewart
Paul Shiels

Simon Mc Crory
Michael Herron
Eddie McCloskey

PJ O Connell   
Conor Carson
Shane Mc Naughton

Seanan Mc Toal
John Kerr
Adrian Downey
Barry McFall
Barney Mc Auley
Joey Scullion
Declan Lynch
Colm McFall
Sean Mc Laughlin

That's the team the colonel, would you pick that team from the panel named?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
With only getting to the Wexford game personally (and hearing reports from players), changes I would make would be to have Joey Scullion in, but I'm not sure who I would have out. When all Loughgiel players come back I would have Johnny Campbell and Watson included.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
After last week, Conor Carson should not be anywhere near it.

Say what ya see, Hardstation. Hard to rubbish your own team mates. Unfair of me to ask the colonel that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2012, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
After last week, Conor Carson should not be anywhere near it.

Two glaring weaknesses on the team MH and CC, no where near the standard at this level and surely will be sacrificed later in the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
Surely Michael Herron is going through a bad patch and will come good - you mean only Carson will be sacrificed? I thinks thats fair especially given the Loughiel boys that can play in his position (wherever that really is).
Its starting to look like a good starting line-up, not so sure how strong the bench will be.
I think an easy dispatch of Westmeath followed by handy loss to Galway - predictable as usual regardless of how we improve or not. Makes me think a re-structure of the whole championship is needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2012, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
Surely Michael Herron is going through a bad patch and will come good - you mean only Carson will be sacrificed? I thinks thats fair especially given the Loughiel boys that can play in his position (wherever that really is).
Its starting to look like a good starting line-up, not so sure how strong the bench will be.
I think an easy dispatch of Westmeath followed by handy loss to Galway - predictable as usual regardless of how we improve or not. Makes me think a re-structure of the whole championship is needed.

I think it has been consistently show that MH isnt up to this level stick work or in other ways too. He is definitely not a CHF.

IMO a CHF has to one of two things either a bully to work with the CHB and keep him quiet or a ball player that the team goes through dragging the CHB around HB altering the shape of the opposing defence. MH is neither of these but as I say thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Its from now on that players will have to nail a place down, not many games left til c'ship. I prefer Simon McCrory as a back but i suppose we have an abundance of defenders so no harm pushing him up the field. Great athlete and strength, maybe lacks a little on the creative side.  Carson and Herron have point to prove but maybe we will get a look at a few of the lads on the bench and see how the team balances. Diffcult to know where we stand as Watson/Campbell not back and if the team is going to work as a unit they need to play as a unit in as many games as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2012, 02:07:15 PM
Herron doesn't have a good work-rate and really needs to improve it, in my view, if he's to be a starter come championship. Quite a few times on sunday he would have lost possession or CHB would have gained possession and he wasn't tracked at all. Ife he improves his work-rate then he should be in with a shout of WHF but not CHF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 02:14:37 PM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
Its from now on that players will have to nail a place down, not many games left til c'ship. I prefer Simon McCrory as a back but i suppose we have an abundance of defenders so no harm pushing him up the field. Great athlete and strength, maybe lacks a little on the creative side.  Carson and Herron have point to prove but maybe we will get a look at a few of the lads on the bench and see how the team balances. Diffcult to know where we stand as Watson/Campbell not back and if the team is going to work as a unit they need to play as a unit in as many games as possible.

No guarantee that Campbell will start either in fairness. All good though, better having a strong panel, should you get a chance to nail a position on the team then great.

I'd like us to have a championship look about us on Sunday, good attitude and passion. The sun should still be shinning (just about) and the pitch should still be hard. Casement looked in great condition on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Ok I'll give you guys that on Herron - maybe its my Belfast bias or I havent seen enough of the county games this year - but I will say its a good thing if the likes of Michael is getting pushed for his place. Although I notice he is vice-captain so Wallace must rate him.

As for Johnny Campbell - number 7 in front of Gettins all day long. I rate him very highly think he's a certain starter. Don't see how you could not pick him MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 02:47:34 PM
in fairness to gettens its his position to lose at the minute, and if he doesnt put a foot wrong then he'l be difficult to drop. but the defence is not the trouble here and rarely is. its gettin the front 6 or even front 8 (mid field included) working together with a high intensity that will be the key. if they make it difficult for opposing defenders to clear the ball coupled with a bit more clinical finishing then it leaves the teams that bit tighter for that bit longer and as the belief grows then results shouldnt be too far away. sounds siple but all boils down to work rate, desire and working as a team. I really dont think the ability is too much in question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Ok I'll give you guys that on Herron - maybe its my Belfast bias or I havent seen enough of the county games this year - but I will say its a good thing if the likes of Michael is getting pushed for his place. Although I notice he is vice-captain so Wallace must rate him.

As for Johnny Campbell - number 7 in front of Gettins all day long. I rate him very highly think he's a certain starter. Don't see how you could not pick him MR2.

Winning team mentality??

Gettins hasn't played badly so until he's exposed or injured then why not?

As already alluded to here, we have an abundance of defenders. I've no doubt come Championship, Johnny will get his place and he has had a brilliant season so I'm not saying he's shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Yeah probably a bit of winning team stuff and all that - sure Gettins has done well but I just genuinely think JC is a better and more proven player.

I agree fully that our defence is generally sound, but up front is where we lack.

But this is an issue all over hurling for me!
Its top quality scoring forwards that dictate a teams success (think Shefflin Kilkenny, think Kelly/Corbett Tipp, think Canning Galway). Its true at club level also.

And when it comes down to this - I simply dont think we have the physicality or ABILITY to challenge the top teams.

But hey, thats for a different day. Lets hope we can do it on Sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
After last week, Conor Carson should not be anywhere near it.

Say what ya see, Hardstation. Hard to rubbish your own team mates. Unfair of me to ask the colonel that ;)

Had an idea of what your at Milltown! As I said I have only seen one game so I can't comment alot of players form. In defence on Conor, he  wasn't even on the bench for the games before last week, and has maybe played one club game so it would be unfair to give off about him when he hasn't really struck leather at all this year. Jerry seems to be pulling strange selections the odd time.  I am hoping getting the goal has given him a lift and hope he improves again for Sunday. Getting game time is the only way to improve.

It's the same with players getting shifted about the place, they need consistency to perform also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
After last week, Conor Carson should not be anywhere near it.

Say what ya see, Hardstation. Hard to rubbish your own team mates. Unfair of me to ask the colonel that ;)

Had an idea of what your at Milltown! As I said I have only seen one game so I can't comment alot of players form. In defence on Conor, he  wasn't even on the bench for the games before last week, and has maybe played one club game so it would be unfair to give off about him when he hasn't really struck leather at all this year. Jerry seems to be pulling strange selections the odd time.  I am hoping getting the goal has given him a lift and hope he improves again for Sunday. Getting game time is the only way to improve.

It's the same with players getting shifted about the place, they need consistency to perform also

I'm a bollox, but as you say game time will improve most players, before he scored I was going WTF. but it was the score that injected life into us. Took 50 minutes though :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
In fairness I wasnt at the last match v Laois so prob unfair to comment on Micko and Carson but just going on reports. Lets hope they can do the business on Sunday!  What about young cricky mcguiness is he still injured or whats the story with him? Looked like a real prospect last year..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
In fairness I wasnt at the last match v Laois so prob unfair to comment on Micko and Carson but just going on reports. Lets hope they can do the business on Sunday!  What about young cricky mcguiness is he still injured or whats the story with him? Looked like a real prospect last year..

Don't know, was really impressed with him also, time on his side so great prospect.

Would like a play off match to go to, be better if we were in it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2012, 03:59:28 PM
Carson was very poor in the first half sunday and lucky not to be taken off. In the second half though he was very good and a major catalyst in our turnaround as he laid off a few good balls when his back was to goal for scores and when he wasfacing goal went at the defender.

Micko didn't exert much influence to be honest - striking a bit wayward too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 29, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
The whole team was shocking in the first half & the ball going into the forwards was poor. The spare man back didn't help matters for the forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2012, 03:59:28 PM
Carson was very poor in the first half sunday and lucky not to be taken off. In the second half though he was very good and a major catalyst in our turnaround as he laid off a few good balls when his back was to goal for scores and when he wasfacing goal went at the defender.

Micko didn't exert much influence to be honest - striking a bit wayward too.

Fair enough comment Tommy. Hopefully all our players can be confident enough with the second half and cut out complacency. Have to work Sunday so I'll not make the game unfortunately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 04:27:50 PM
Fair point two hands, quite often if things are going against us its easy to haul off a corner forward or full forward when in fact they may be working off scraps the whole game. As i said i wasnt at the Laois game but perhaps we need to bare in mind that if the supply isnt going in then it doesnt matter if you have joe canning, henry sheffling and eddie brennan on the full forward line.  Which brings me back to my earlier point, big work rate needed from number 8 to 15 to ensure ball isnt turned easily and that when it goes in it stays in!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 29, 2012, 04:28:32 PM
shefflin*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
Look when you have a target man in full forward then the gameplan was obvious surely?? Lump high ball in ffs,  they had extra man in place to scoop up break ball. Why we didn't react/counter act was beyond me.

Not Conors fault by the way, Im not a fan of the big target man, but if its effective then grand.

We were playing Laois, a team we are confident of beating at home, we had extra man in defence so we had time on ball to pick a pass or shoot from distance. But we prefered to lump her on in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 29, 2012, 06:24:35 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
DD Quinn

Aaron Graffin
Cormac Donnelly
Kieran Mc Gourty

Neal Mc Auley
Neil Mc Manus
Michael Gettens

Karl Stewart
Paul Shiels

Simon Mc Crory
Michael Herron
Eddie McCloskey

PJ O Connell   
Conor Carson
Shane Mc Naughton

Seanan Mc Toal
John Kerr
Adrian Downey
Barry McFall
Barney Mc Auley
Joey Scullion
Declan Lynch
Colm McFall
Sean Mc Laughlin

Has Johnny Cambell not playrd CHB for Loughgeil and the County before? If thats' right then that would let McManus go to midfield and Stewart to CHF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 29, 2012, 08:35:11 PM
darren hamill leaving panel did i see, yeah think he needs to find blistering form with home club and he ain't doing it there apparently.  Carson was thrown in deep end, he was by no means the worst forward the last day.  O'Connell wasn't at races but i'd stick with him, should shoot more himself.  hamill poor as was mccrory who is a worse back than he is a forward.  Carson is a big man and is naturally slow, but fair play he took the goal and tried to hold up the ball for others.  far from the worse.  though the dall lads (col) would say he hasn't had much form for dall this past while.  micko herron and stewart poor especially stewart by his high standards. but good men for antrim, if they all click on sunday who knows.  Gettins has done well some good blocks and was one of better backs.  J campbell hasn't set the world alight for the shams this season.  Barney too slow for that level.  lets face it, lot faster that club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
Id be 99% sure Hamill is still on the panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 09:09:45 PM
Christopher MGuinness done his cruciate playing for Rossa - he missed all last season for them and it doesnt look like he will play this year either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
wonder how the other Antrim players feel about Kieran McGourty pretending to be sick last weekend and going to the Celtic and Rangers game instead. Not a player you would want in the trenches with you after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
wonder how the other Antrim players feel about Kieran McGourty pretending to be sick last weekend and going to the Celtic and Rangers game instead. Not a player you would want in the trenches with you after that.

Cracking first post Saffrongael
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
wonder how the other Antrim players feel about Kieran McGourty pretending to be sick last weekend and going to the Celtic and Rangers game instead. Not a player you would want in the trenches with you after that.

Cracking first post Saffrongael

Ridiculous post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
wonder how the other Antrim players feel about Kieran McGourty pretending to be sick last weekend and going to the Celtic and Rangers game instead. Not a player you would want in the trenches with you after that.

Cracking first post Saffrongael

Ridiculous post

ridiculous behaviour from an intecounty player. Soccer is more important to the belfast ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: the colonel on March 29, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
wonder how the other Antrim players feel about Kieran McGourty pretending to be sick last weekend and going to the Celtic and Rangers game instead. Not a player you would want in the trenches with you after that.

Cracking first post Saffrongael

Ridiculous post

ridiculous behaviour from an intecounty player. Soccer is more important to the belfast ones.

Is he starting on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Jerry doesn't know. Any sightings of him at casement last sunday? Injured players usually still attend and rally the troops.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on March 29, 2012, 10:08:17 PM
Kevin was there does that count.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 10:29:01 PM
Wow! What a revelation! U not gonna rebuke him for gossip mr2?!
Is this true? If so Wallace has gotta put him off panel or lose credibility - and how could he implement future discipline? If anything it's an ideal opportunity for Wallace to show his standards - although it's a no brainer if true. And added to the mix I believe the shamrocks can offer a ready made replacement!
But less of the generalisation about Belfast and soccer! That's out of order! I do recall a certain Liam Watson playing ground Gaelic rather publicly in preference to hurling - to name but one. U also slander many committed Belfast Gaels. Out of order! Rant over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 29, 2012, 10:32:44 PM
More than one,if I'm allowed to think that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2012, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 10:29:01 PM
Wow! What a revelation! U not gonna rebuke him for gossip mr2?!
Is this true? If so Wallace has gotta put him off panel or lose credibility - and how could he implement future discipline? If anything it's an ideal opportunity for Wallace to show his standards - although it's a no brainer if true. And added to the mix I believe the shamrocks can offer a ready made replacement!
But less of the generalisation about Belfast and soccer! That's out of order! I do recall a certain Liam Watson playing ground Gaelic rather publicly in preference to hurling - to name but one. U also slander many committed Belfast Gaels. Out of order! Rant over.
As well as hurling btgtgg, as well as hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 28, 2012, 03:21:35 PM
Not sure why JC and Winker would need more of a break than the rest - but I suppose thats between them and the managment so will leave it at that.

I assume he hasnt released then names of the other 2 until he speaks to them personally.

As for 9 on the panel - it reminds me a bit of the days when Sean McGuinness didnt fancy picking anyone outside of Dunloy. I am not sure even the Birrs or Portumnas would have had that contingent?

However, maybe it is a fair refelction for the
All-Ireland champions!
In terms of a squad but obviously not starting XV.

The marquee was a mis-hap but I thought I would leave it there SIE!
I've no idea what you're on about here.   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Jerry doesn't know. Any sightings of him at casement last sunday? Injured players usually still attend and rally the troops.
You seem to know stuff Saff, here's a question that maybe you can answer, it has nothing to do with Keiran.

How many players in the last few years have jumped ship and went to the states while being panelist of Antrim teams? How many players (and i could name a few from different N. Antrim Clubs) have taken holidays while still in the championship? Trenches? Keep your hearsay to yourself or at least be man enough to back it up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2012, 10:53:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 29, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Jerry doesn't know. Any sightings of him at casement last sunday? Injured players usually still attend and rally the troops.
You seem to know stuff Saff, here's a question that maybe you can answer, it has nothing to do with Keiran.

How many players in the last few years have jumped ship and went to the states while being panelist of Antrim teams? How many players (and i could name a few from different N. Antrim Clubs) have taken holidays while still in the championship? Trenches? Keep your hearsay to yourself or at least be man enough to back it up
100% right MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 29, 2012, 10:57:08 PM
if this is true he needs the boot.  MR2 it is not the same, those lads although maybe not the most committed would have informed people about their plans.  However if this is true he should go?  surley you would agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2012, 11:03:11 PM
catch yerself on saffronog. Need to have a wee bit of slack in what is an amateur game. There are limits but that isn't one of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
we dont like to look upon it as an amateur game,  and i didn't want to use the word,  but that's what it is skull,  your right  :o       there have been stags and soccer games went to before, it will all happen again,   not a hanging offence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2012, 11:19:43 PM
Already sounding like an old poster  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 29, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
well mcmanus and graffin are big mates, say the pair headed on piss or someone offered them tickets for a game and they headed, what would you think of them standing watching the game on Sunday.  imo not a hanging offence either, after all it is an amateur game.  Just get rid of him and see if there is someone better with more effort. 

Skull can't wait to hear your list of limits, remember there is always room for one more excuse.  If this is true at the very least i would expect wallace to put him off panel for a couple of months at least.  From what i hear he (though not sure) is not a remarkable trainer.  One thing I am sure of, he is not a remarkable talent.  SG are you worried about watson and having to make excuses for him ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2012, 11:28:30 PM
Sure we all no,   Watson does what he wants ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 11:33:11 PM
Sie - marquee is the scrolling effect for "all Ireland champions" although I do think Watson opted for soccer instead of hurling for a period at least in early season.

As for the McGourty debate - let's firstly ascertain if it's true.

But IF it is true - he has gotta be put off panel! Yes it's an amateur game and yes we all like a beer - but not while a national league match is on and certainly not lying about it! Again IF this is true - it's a no brainer - that sort of stuff cannot be tolerated and would set an unthinkable precedent. I repeat "IF".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 29, 2012, 11:35:52 PM
Especially in All- Ireland club finals!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
Quote from: saffronog on March 29, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
well mcmanus and graffin are big mates, say the pair headed on piss or someone offered them tickets for a game and they headed, what would you think of them standing watching the game on Sunday.  imo not a hanging offence either, after all it is an amateur game.  Just get rid of him and see if there is someone better with more effort. 

Skull can't wait to hear your list of limits, remember there is always room for one more excuse.  If this is true at the very least i would expect wallace to put him off panel for a couple of months at least.  From what i hear he (though not sure) is not a remarkable trainer.  One thing I am sure of, he is not a remarkable talent.  SG are you worried about watson and having to make excuses for him ???

So some random Joe who you, presumably, don't know from adam comes on here casting aspersions which could be nothing more than unfounded crap and this sparks your attack on the fella when you don't even know anything.

You're not sure if he's a good trainer and you're not sure if he went to a celtic-rangers match so what are you sure of?

You're sure he's not a remarkable talent - that's nice.

The fella is a very clever hurler. He's a  great reader of the game and is there because he deserves to be there. When someone else comes along who deserves to be there in front of him they will be. He's played across 2 managers as a first 15 player and would have played for more had it not been for football so you must be more sure than a number of people who I think it's fair to say might know a bit more than someone who bases a lot of their opinion on things they're not sure are true or not...

It's amazing what some random joe throwing in rumours can bring out in people...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2012, 11:42:09 PM
Would you be calling for him to be put of panel if it was SMN or NMM??    NO!!!   FFS. Dry up!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2012, 11:55:19 PM
We should ignore any new poster who starts his gaaboard existence with tittletattle and sniping

Only a complete tool would do this so whats the point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 30, 2012, 02:22:54 AM
twice in 1night i agree with a dunloy man ??? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 06:18:11 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 29, 2012, 11:33:11 PM
Sie - marquee is the scrolling effect for "all Ireland champions" although I do think Watson opted for soccer instead of hurling for a period at least in early season.

As for the McGourty debate - let's firstly ascertain if it's true.

But IF it is true - he has gotta be put off panel! Yes it's an amateur game and yes we all like a beer - but not while a national league match is on and certainly not lying about it! Again IF this is true - it's a no brainer - that sort of stuff cannot be tolerated and would set an unthinkable precedent. I repeat "IF".
Ah right. Aye, sure leave it there. I might utilise myself in the future.   ;)

Agree with all posts regarding the amateur aspect of the GAA. Let's ignore the new fella, I've a feeling he's been around before anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
It's very relevant the point I made about there being limits to how 'amateurish is amateur'. Without pointing fingers there have been individuals in the past who deserved the chop because of their antics. Management typically know where the line is, allowing the player the benefit of any doubt if there is any.

Sg.....you're going for three in a row here  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
A pointless last few posts regarding hearsay, I'm guilty of not letting it slide, but all to common now we have trolls who'll get off on throwing out snide remarks. Even if this were true, it's down to management and how they deal with things.

A fair few posters on here don't let on what club they are from, this is possibly down to the fact that they may be wary of criticism from other posters about their own club members or things their own club has done. That's their prerogative, as Bobby would say ;)



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 30, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2012, 08:09:13 AM
It's very relevant the point I made about there being limits to how 'amateurish is amateur'. Without pointing fingers there have been individuals in the past who deserved the chop because of their antics. Management typically know where the line is, allowing the player the benefit of any doubt if there is any.


i agree to an extent, but are you saying if you where county manager and someone buggered of to watch a soccer match instead of playing a very important NHL game you would find this acceptable 

(btw i am talking about if the circumstance arose and not said player as it is heresay and should not have been posted unless fact)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2012, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: Megaman on March 30, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
i agree to an extent, but are you saying if you where county manager and someone buggered of to watch a soccer match instead of playing a very important NHL game you would find this acceptable 

(btw i am talking about if the circumstance arose and not said player as it is heresay and should not have been posted unless fact)

I'm saying that as a manager, if the player demonstrates 95% of the time that he's a commited squad member, then cutting a wee bit of slack for that player is the better option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 30, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
Obviously we are dealing in the hypothetical here but I cant see someone from Tipperary finding that type of thing in anyway acceptable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
OK my last post on this since it's only a rumour at this stage.

I think the issue is nothing to do with an amateur sport - sure we could use this an as excuse for not training and being drunk during games! Ah sure he's amateur etc.

The issue is not about whether the player was at the Old Firm game either.

The issue is whether or not he had permission or lied about it!
If Wallace was fine with this and gave KMcG some slack - no problem.

If he feigned sickness and went to the Old Firm - then is anyone really excusing this as acceptable?!
I despair if any team in any sport would accept this let alone at national level!
I cant believe its even up for debate!

Anyway like we are generally agreed- its only a rumour at this stage - so I will leave it there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
OK my last post on this since it's only a rumour at this stage.

I think the issue is nothing to do with an amateur sport - sure we could use this an as excuse for not training and being drunk during games! Ah sure he's amateur etc.

The issue is not about whether the player was at the Old Firm game either.

The issue is whether or not he had permission or lied about it!
If Wallace was fine with this and gave KMcG some slack - no problem.

If he feigned sickness and went to the Old Firm - then is anyone really excusing this as acceptable?!
I despair if any team in any sport would accept this let alone at national level!
I cant believe its even up for debate!

Anyway like we are generally agreed- its only a rumour at this stage - so I will leave it there.

So why go on about it?

If, and this was what i was led to believe by a clubman when i heard the announcer (Christ he was chronic on Sunday by the way) call out the change in the team that he was injured and replaced, is it 'acceptable' for anonymous posters to come on here and bad mouth people on hearsay?

I 'despair' also btdgtt at people supporting, spending money on foreign sports but head on to the many threads on soccer on this site and you will see heavily involved GAA men discussing their 'second' sport it's part and parcel in modern day society.

Lets wait before/if we know it's true before hanging someone. Plenty of vultures on here to do that, then crawl behind a rock when done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 11:49:35 AM
The 'foreign sport' thing is irrelevant to me - The point is if he lied about being ill.

But yes - we've spent too long on a matter which is unproven - mind you, that would pretty much rule out most of our board!

Lets hope for a win on Sunday and all will be bright and rosey in the garden of Casement!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on March 30, 2012, 12:35:28 PM
I think this discussion or witch hunt serves no purpose. Alot of people complain about forums and their anonymous posters spreading shit and this is a perfect example. McGourty could possibly been injured during the week, and said f*ck it I'm not playing, somebody offered him a ticket and thought why not. Time to wind the necks in lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on March 30, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
Can we divert our attentions back to the game this weekend? Any news on Limerick team? How are they lining out? I think we can be there abouts going into last ten so im not ruling out an antrim victory! Especially after the long days travelling for Limerick the day before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2012, 08:55:49 PM
We never seem to do well against Limerick for some reason  >:(

Hopefully this time will be different. They seem to be that more physical than we are and we struggle. However hopefully we'll maybe take a bit of confidence from Loughgiel's victory over Na Piarsiagh.

Also I think we have something to prove after our match against Laois and there's a lot more in us. Won't be easy though. Have too many bad memories of Limerick games :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.

Stranger things have happened, Beating the Munster champions, who being the best team in Limerick also. Loughgiel proved that fairytales do come true. After the hammering they took against the Gaels the year before they managed to come back better.

Collectively Limerick are stronger than NP just like Antrim collectively are better than Loughgiel don't you think SIE? LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.

Stranger things have happened, Beating the Munster champions, who being the best team in Limerick also. Loughgiel proved that fairytales do come true. After the hammering they took against the Gaels the year before they managed to come back better.

Collectively Limerick are stronger than NP just like Antrim collectively are better than Loughgiel don't you think SIE? LOL
Probably, but I also think that there's a bigger gap between Limerick (collectively) and Na Piarsaigh than there is between Antrim (collectively) and  Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:41:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.

Stranger things have happened, Beating the Munster champions, who being the best team in Limerick also. Loughgiel proved that fairytales do come true. After the hammering they took against the Gaels the year before they managed to come back better.

Collectively Limerick are stronger than NP just like Antrim collectively are better than Loughgiel don't you think SIE? LOL
Probably, but I also think that there's a bigger gap between Limerick (collectively) and Na Piarsaigh than there is between Antrim (collectively) and  Loughgiel.

Why? Explain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 30, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
It may take the Loughgiel players bit of time on Sunday to adapt to the faster pace of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:41:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.

Stranger things have happened, Beating the Munster champions, who being the best team in Limerick also. Loughgiel proved that fairytales do come true. After the hammering they took against the Gaels the year before they managed to come back better.

Collectively Limerick are stronger than NP just like Antrim collectively are better than Loughgiel don't you think SIE? LOL
Probably, but I also think that there's a bigger gap between Limerick (collectively) and Na Piarsaigh than there is between Antrim (collectively) and  Loughgiel.

Why? Explain
Loughgiel are a better team than Na Piarsaigh and Limerick are a better team than Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 30, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
It may take the Loughgiel players bit of time on Sunday to adapt to the faster pace of hurling.
Are you serious? The only way they won't be up to pace is if they're still feeling the effects of the celebrations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2012, 10:09:53 PM
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Yes I agree - and getting into a promotion play-off would be a big boost - maybe even a day out in Croker?!

Would have loved to have seen Watson on the panel - imagine the boost of him coming on in the 2nd half against tired Limerick defenders.
Another one?  ;)

It would be great to see Antrim in Croke park again but I don't think it's going to happen. I believe Antrim have only beaten Limerick once before in the early 90's in a league play-off on Parnell park. Stranger things have happened though.

Stranger things have happened, Beating the Munster champions, who being the best team in Limerick also. Loughgiel proved that fairytales do come true. After the hammering they took against the Gaels the year before they managed to come back better.

Collectively Limerick are stronger than NP just like Antrim collectively are better than Loughgiel don't you think SIE? LOL
Probably, but I also think that there's a bigger gap between Limerick (collectively) and Na Piarsaigh than there is between Antrim (collectively) and  Loughgiel.

Why? Explain
Loughgiel are a better team than Na Piarsaigh and Limerick are a better team than Antrim.

For a minute I thought you were going to say Loughgiel were better than Antrim lol. When we got to the All Ireland final for the first time some nobs said the same thing, I laughed.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2012, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 30, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
It may take the Loughgiel players bit of time on Sunday to adapt to the faster pace of hurling.

No way Minder, these lads will be well up to it FFS. Ya wee mixer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 31, 2012, 01:29:19 AM
I would bet on Shamrocks against Antrim at the present time, and I think I would be collecting.Sorry to spoil the party.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 08:26:05 AM
been following for a while now and feel i have to contribute, you can thank me later.

i say your man minder is mixing a little there.  However the sham glasses still on a little for too many lads.  Antrim would be well able to beat the shams at present.  hope though watson is nearly ready and doesn't need anymore drinking time.  could turn out to be a nasty habit.  Saffrons abu on Sunday.  we might yet get the opportunity to lower the banner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 08:50:38 AM
Welcome to the board saffron89.

I don't think there's as much in it as you think at the minute. They played other a couple of months back when both teams were playing warm up matches. Granted it wan't full blooded and Loughgiel finished with their reserves, but there were only 3 or 4 points in it at the end. Btw, I think Cushendall would run them close as well if they had been training as hard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 08:50:38 AM
Welcome to the board saffron89.

I don't think there's as much in it as you think at the minute. They played other a couple of months back when both teams were playing warm up matches. Granted it wan't full blooded and Loughgiel finished with their reserves, but there were only 3 or 4 points in it at the end. Btw, I think Cushendall would run them close as well if they had been training as hard.

yeah but i think now they are up and running a little more and with the league campaign nearly behind them i reckon there would be around 10 points.  though i suppose the loughgiel lads with a bit more arrogance in their play could be better.  SIE i would hope to see the the full compliment of players from loughgiel with the county soon.  Is watson still on lash or anyword of him returning.  you must be pretty close to the set up over there.  maybe a previous manager / coach / selector
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on March 31, 2012, 12:38:52 PM
Rose coloured glasses re: Antrim..........10 points??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 08:50:38 AM
Welcome to the board saffron89.

I don't think there's as much in it as you think at the minute. They played other a couple of months back when both teams were playing warm up matches. Granted it wan't full blooded and Loughgiel finished with their reserves, but there were only 3 or 4 points in it at the end. Btw, I think Cushendall would run them close as well if they had been training as hard.

yeah but i think now they are up and running a little more and with the league campaign nearly behind them i reckon there would be around 10 points.  though i suppose the loughgiel lads with a bit more arrogance in their play could be better.  SIE i would hope to see the the full compliment of players from loughgiel with the county soon.  Is watson still on lash or anyword of him returning.  you must be pretty close to the set up over there.  maybe a previous manager / coach / selector
None of the three saffron89. Watson and the rest will be back for the next game. Interest at the minute is in a certain game next week.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2012, 01:58:17 PM
Just let me get this straight before we move on, If Loughgiel were playing Limerick tomorrow would they fair better than Antrim?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2012, 01:58:17 PM
Just let me get this straight before we move on, If Loughgiel were playing Limerick tomorrow would they fair better than Antrim?
Who has said that MR2? I haven't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2012, 02:12:16 PM
Bushwhacker was saying, but like i was saying before, cause a team wins an All Ireland club people, and not only ones from that club, would suggest that they would be able to beat their county team. Heard it when we won ours, thought we'd give them a game, and had we played them when they were pre season possibly could win but not when both teams have had a few games under their belt.

Anyways, looking forward to the game tomorrow. Would have had a few beforehand but out tonight for my sins!!! So will be reporting back sober.

Hippy shouldn't have trouble with Downes and if the defenders stick and hassle their forwards (they have decent wing forwards) we could be in this game late on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 31, 2012, 03:20:07 PM
Downes is on the bench. Niall Moran is FF and has been all during the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2012, 03:47:01 PM
Hands full then with Niall, smart hurler and full of experience. Should be a different test for him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 07:46:48 PM
Glad to hear that hardstation - from my reckoning u hadn't been going good maybe that cookstown trip was more than meets the eye! Rossa v galls shaping up big game I will say we'll be sharing the Rossa hill mr2?! Or are u management?!
How are things going at hannahstown anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 08:15:51 PM
Well I will give u maybe some Rossa stories little more than gossip either then.

Won't miss St galls game that's for sure - looking forward to it.
Glenarrife will make the running but hopefully galls or Rossa can keep up.

Going to casement tomorro hoping for a win it would be massive but I think Limerick will sneak it by a point or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Touchy hardstation I was winding u up Tongue firmly in cheek - but u cannot dispute your boys have lacked the ability to maintain a full season. I have alot of time for Rossa just think galls apply themselves better.
Anyone any more pre-season info?

Anyway county hat on this weekend until leagues start - will be great to see!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 31, 2012, 08:54:19 PM
HS would it be fair to say Strenght in depth would be a big problem for Rossa(like most TBF). Rossa would have a pretty decent 15 but take a few out of that & they would suffer a good bit which obviously has has happenned in the last couple of years in the league.

I think they will make a better shot at promotion this year & hope they do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2012, 09:00:35 PM
Without playing silly buggers, like MR2, I think some of you are over estimating how strong we will be in Div2 this year. Turnouts have been abysmal at training and doesn't look like Tosh or Conor McAllister will be playing much, we, like most teams in Div 2 I would think, can't really afford to be missing any players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 09:34:11 PM
Think both of u hit Rossa's nail on head 2 hands. Hardstation I won't push u on the excuses.
But hey if we believe minder and mr2 both oisins and galls are both useless - somehow I think both are leading us up the garden path! All looks like an intriguing league again!
Would like to hear how hannahstown shaping up - I assume gort won't be pressing but can pick off results at home and tir na nog are the same.
But like I say minder it's yours to lose.

Phew!

Now come on Antrim! Looking forward hopefully big crowd at HQ!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2012, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 09:34:11 PM
Think both of u hit Rossa's nail on head 2 hands. Hardstation I won't push u on the excuses.
But hey if we believe minder and mr2 both oisins and galls are both useless - somehow I think both are leading us up the garden path! All looks like an intriguing league again!
Would like to hear how hannahstown shaping up - I assume gort won't be pressing but can pick off results at home and tir na nog are the same.
But like I say minder it's yours to lose.

Phew!

Now come on Antrim! Looking forward hopefully big crowd at HQ!

Now nobody said that ! We will be in the top 3 I would imagine but for the reasons mentioned above it will be no cakewalk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
if rossa are playing Dunloy they must be taking things quite seriously this year and showed very well against the all ireland champs in glenravel last year, a game which i i attended, i remember mr watson had a nite to forget.  galls i reckon will be going very well and glenariffe  like galls put in a good championship performance against the dall.  reckon it will come down to the head to heads though someone will get caught out by randalstown.

really looking forward to casement tomorrow, will get in early for front seat in stand.  i hear jerry is going to let them go man to man tomorrow and move away from a more sweeping role for mcmanus.  not before time.  Saffrons abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on March 31, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
reckon it will be
oisins
rossa
galls

though if tosh aint for hurling i would review that statement, not sure of who conor mcallister is exactly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2012, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
if rossa are playing Dunloy they must be taking things quite seriously this year
Not sure what you mean here but they had to play them, it was an Ulster league fixture. If you mean 'beating Dunloy', well, aye, it's a good result but our other results haven't been very good.
yeah the 2 point win, thats good going, i take it hamill and kettle are still the leaders, which sometimes might not be a good thing, however they can both hurl
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
SIE how long is chopper mcgarry retired, he was a fabulous servant to the red and white down through the years must be sorry he missed out.  a friend was telling me the great pj used to take the bellaghy camogs, was that his only managerial experience before the loughgiel job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Hamill is a big loss hardstation use still relied alot on him.
Stephen Shannon?

What about dunloy how is their prospects looking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 11:10:05 PM
Ok I rate Shannon highly - I agree with saffron89 u will need Hamill if u are going to challenge. Time will tell looking forward to the big games between oisins galls Rossa.

Amazing co-incidence about coolderry & cross but I can't resist pointing out the difference in each team now - SIE can do that!

What galls men are hurling mr2? Or not hurling!

Dunloy must be off top teams - dall only challenge to shams then as I said before.
Maybe a drop in standards might suit the johnnies but I expect them to struggle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 31, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
SIE how long is chopper mcgarry retired, he was a fabulous servant to the red and white down through the years must be sorry he missed out.  a friend was telling me the great pj used to take the bellaghy camogs, was that his only managerial experience before the loughgiel job
I think he's been gone a couple of years now. He's had the big birthday. As MR2 will testify, you can't hurl forever. He is a great servant indeed, as the McGarry's all are.

I honestly couldn't tell ye about PJ's managerial credentials, apart from the obvious. That's good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 11:18:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 11:10:05 PM
Amazing co-incidence about coolderry & cross but I can't resist pointing out the difference in each team now - SIE can do that!
I don't think that needed to be pointed out, tbf.
Yous were also the only team to get within a score of us in championship hurling this past year HS. A fact that hasn't gone unnoticed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2012, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2012, 11:18:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 31, 2012, 11:10:05 PM
Amazing co-incidence about coolderry & cross but I can't resist pointing out the difference in each team now - SIE can do that!
I don't think that needed to be pointed out, tbf.
Yous were also the only team to get within a score of us in championship hurling this past year HS. A fact that hasn't gone unnoticed.
Aye, the game is on youtube and I've watched it many times since. Caught yis on a bad day or anything else, we had our chances to win it and in many ways, only ourselves to blame.
Indeed , Could have went your way alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 01, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
Two big games today

Celtic v St Johnstone 12.45pm

Antrim v Limerick 2.30pm

Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 09:44:51 AM
Isn't it quite incredible that some would choose the soccer!
For my money they are not gaa fans nor even sports fans - just drink fans!

Good luck today saffs get ur hats scarves and headbands!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on April 01, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 01, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
Two big games today

Celtic v St Johnstone 12.45pm

Antrim v Limerick 2.30pm

Decisions decisions.

What a nail biter that games gonna be. I cant wait for it. Got my celtic top on and praying that we can beat them. It means so much to me. I really hope Georgie of Greece scores it would mean so much to me.

If we had half the Celtic fans about Belfast supporting our county team we'd be the best supported team in Ireland.

It's like some sort of Cult --how in god's name could anyone care if Celtic beat St Johnstone? A team of part timers who you couldnt name one player from--That game (and all games bar v Rangers) is like your county playing Kilkenny in football--a complete non-event and waste of time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 01, 2012, 11:40:10 AM
ok a bet is a bet and all that but lets not start any celtic shit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
Its quite obvious what yer man's sole aim in joining the board is.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2012, 12:47:30 PM
correct skull. And I spoke to person yesterday and it's a load of balls.

Heading to game later hoping for better effort today, somebody posted that we played a sweeper system last time out!! We didn't, they employed the extra player in defence, well I hope they did because we were shite at it if we did 'shakes head  :o'

Trying to get motovated, I'm cream crackered after a nite on the tiles, left car in Belfast and thought it would be a good idea to go in on my bike this morning to pick it up!!! nearly 9 miles, I'm aching and managed to fall of it also, funny a fcuk. So You'll be able to spot me at Casement later, small guy with a John Wayne walk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 01, 2012, 01:03:40 PM
Milltownrow2 whatever little buddy told you it was a load of balls is lying, fact. He was at the Celtic match, fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
Bog Ash/sham man/saffrongael????   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
I believe ref is playing a blinder in casement??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 01, 2012, 04:09:45 PM
Reality check.......no defence, indifferent forwards,good goalkeeper!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
I believe ref is playing a blinder in casement??

Regardless of the ref we are miles behind Limerick on that evidence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 04:18:28 PM
That bad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 04:26:10 PM
By god I am glad that's over!

Yes he ref gave them some insane calls durin the game (and resulting directly in a goal) but that's nothing in the result of this game. We were destroyed all over the park!
Simply out of our depth.

Now the question is was this a reality check or a bad day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
You might need a reality check. Plenty won't. Reality is too many fail to see that we have done nothing in the last 12 months to suggest we've really progressed so why after last years result against limerick do some think that result was not on the cards.

We pay lip sevice to the proper structured development of the game so we are where we are because of the level of effort put in...get used to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 01, 2012, 04:41:02 PM
reality check........players don't measure up when it counts.Limerick are by no means the best team in Ireland and they destroyed us.We get the odd result when other teams have a bad day,thats the way it's always been.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
Unfortunately lads I have to agree with u both. That does seem to be a moraccurate reflection of where we really are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
I don't agree bushwhacker,  wasn't at game today so can't talk about it.  But full strength I believe Antrim are as good as any of the lower teams,  think just limerick are a step up, maybe a step closer to the cats and tipp,galway,cork.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 01, 2012, 04:49:28 PM
Dont think we are as bad as it looked today, DD very good, Shane and Aaron G were decent, after that not much to say. Work rate from the forwards was abysmal for most of the game. We looked like a team that had been together for a fortnight. There has to be more in this squad given the big players that had a stinker today plus if Watson can be incorporated in a week or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 01, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Were Antrim at full strength today ?........... who do we add to make much difference?
At club level we can hack it,but county level we don't have enough quality players.
With the same three teams contesting Div1. and the championship every year this is not likely to change any time soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
I see our reserves are doing well in the Táin club league.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2012, 05:25:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
Bog Ash/sham man/saffrongael????

Don't feed the......

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkmyq5mte31qdjem6.jpg)

They usually go away!! and come back as someone new :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 01, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 01, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
I believe ref is playing a blinder in casement??

Regardless of the ref we are miles behind Limerick on that evidence.

a few dodgy ones from the ref but the saffrons were at 6's and 7's, out muscled and just came up against a better outfit.  Feel the 2 best teams will be contesting the final and limerick will be no push over. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 01, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
I don't agree bushwhacker,  wasn't at game today so can't talk about it.  But full strength I believe Antrim are as good as any of the lower teams,  think just limerick are a step up, maybe a step closer to the cats and tipp,galway,cork.

kilkenny
tipp
cork
waterford / Dublin / Galway
Limerick / Clare
Offlay / wexford / antrim /
Laois / Carlow /

i think these are the levels in my humble opinion

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
I would say that's about right saffron89 though offaly probably just above.

The last few years we beat teams below us and when we came up against the "higher" tiers then we just weren't good enough.

The problem is the gap to those higher tiers is massive and boils down to things like skull talks about. Not an overnight job to close the gap.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 01, 2012, 06:45:37 PM
pretty depression stuff today.  thought very few can walk away with satisfaction, apart from DD and SMcNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2012, 06:48:57 PM
Ok would someone explain what the fook we were doing today? Did we go for the extra man in defence/midfield today? So we should have won a lot of ball in that area...... No, we won nowt. I like the tactic of the extra man against stronger opposition and playing away from home but our players didn't use it well at all. Limerick got more out of the tactic than we did.

Christ we were so flat, a few boys will be wondering will they be starting next time after that, we had to work our socks off to get scores but was easy for them. They used the ball well, worked it to the spare man/runner and they managed to tack over the points. They used a lot of handpassing into space and made so much time for themselves.


Shane hurled his heart strings out today but didn't get a lot of help from the rest. I think It will take a bitta time for the Loughgiel lads to settle in. DD made some saves but pucked a ball out short which led to a score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 01, 2012, 06:54:25 PM
good to see the shams out on the pitch at half time showing off the trophy.  could be around anther 30 years before we see it again.  competing in the leinster competitions at all levels is the way forward.  great to see sambo and woody back in and pushing there again. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 06:56:02 PM
Yes i agree spot on saffron89.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 01, 2012, 07:22:21 PM
Seems to be a little confusion with instructions i agree MR2, when forwards rotate we seem to struggle.  But i do feel antrim invite alot of trouble on to themselves with the half backs and midfield trying to find the perfect ball when coming out.  should be pinging the corners and full forward if we could find one.  maybe shorty in that defensive role of midfielder might clear more ball and shore things up a little. hippy will be miss and i think wallace really going to have to think of mcmanus at no 11 permanently. though no 6 then problem.  dd good, shane mcnaughton really only forward at present and he ran himself into the ground, needs to be smarter in holding positions so he lasts the full 70.  (however we could do with a few more)  great to see watson on the pitch, not entirely what i had in mind.  one thing is we are certainly in the correct division, just hope its dublin we will be facing not galway.  thought another very poor crowd, how shite will that look in the new stadium.  a waste of money ????  on a more positive note, great to see the kids involved at half time, it was more enjoyable than alot of the main game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 01, 2012, 08:05:27 PM
Galway not at the game to-day......... beaten 3-26 to 0-10 by Kilkenny......good job we weren't playing Kilkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
Agree with Saffron89 about the short passing, they seem to be doing it for the sake of it and not to put themselves in a more advantageous position. Wallace obviously has it drilled into them, you would see one of our players getting the ball in a bit of space and instead of drilling it into the forwards early they are looking for a 15 yard pass.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 01, 2012, 07:22:21 PM
Seems to be a little confusion with instructions i agree MR2, when forwards rotate we seem to struggle.  But i do feel antrim invite alot of trouble on to themselves with the half backs and midfield trying to find the perfect ball when coming out.  should be pinging the corners and full forward if we could find one.  maybe shorty in that defensive role of midfielder might clear more ball and shore things up a little. hippy will be miss and i think wallace really going to have to think of mcmanus at no 11 permanently. though no 6 then problem.  dd good, shane mcnaughton really only forward at present and he ran himself into the ground, needs to be smarter in holding positions so he lasts the full 70.  (however we could do with a few more)  great to see watson on the pitch, not entirely what i had in mind.  one thing is we are certainly in the correct division, just hope its dublin we will be facing not galway.  thought another very poor crowd, how shite will that look in the new stadium.  a waste of money ????  on a more positive note, great to see the kids involved at half time, it was more enjoyable than alot of the main game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2012, 09:13:45 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
These group of guys deserve our support rather than derision btw. They're the best WE have (and some of them would fit in with the best in Ireland). Not enough depth of quality or commitment across the board to get the standards up to the level where we would be more compeditive. It's been that way (bar 4/5 years) for as long as I remember.

Would take 10-15 years effort from 100s of people working together accross all clubs (with finance available) to move things to a different level IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 01, 2012, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
These group of guys deserve our support rather than derision btw. They're the best WE have (and some of them would fit in with the best in Ireland). Not enough depth of quality or commitment across the board to get the standards up to the level where we would be more compeditive. It's been that way (bar 4/5 years) for as long as I remember.

Would take 10-15 years effort from 100s of people working together accross all clubs (with finance available) to move things to a different level IMO

Skull you have been preaching the same line for a long time and you are totally right! Why is everybody so annoyed by the result today? We have not traditionally done well against Limerick and what has changed at underage level in the past 5 yrs to think that we should? Mid table Div 1B is where Antrim are at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 02, 2012, 09:23:29 AM
Totally agree with all of the above but I also believe we can make a better shape of it where we are at. NMcM needs to stay No.6 for a start imo and after that we need to get organised and develop a style of play that we work to whoever the opposition. There is better in this squad, we have seen glimpses of it and there is more to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 01, 2012, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2012, 11:01:41 PM
These group of guys deserve our support rather than derision btw. They're the best WE have (and some of them would fit in with the best in Ireland). Not enough depth of quality or commitment across the board to get the standards up to the level where we would be more compeditive. It's been that way (bar 4/5 years) for as long as I remember.

Would take 10-15 years effort from 100s of people working together accross all clubs (with finance available) to move things to a different level IMO

Skull you have been preaching the same line for a long time and you are totally right! Why is everybody so annoyed by the result today? We have not traditionally done well against Limerick and what has changed at underage level in the past 5 yrs to think that we should? Mid table Div 1B is where Antrim are at.


+1 Always seem to come up short against limmerick. our only chance yesterday was to keep it close and mug them close to the end, the ref took made sure that didnt happen. theres one recurring theme for years if we are making a game of it we are going to get shafted by decsions to give the other team some daylight. imm geting fed up with it god knows how the players feel. Dont think we would have won anyway but them close range frees knocked the stuffing out of boys. dont think the midfeild changes worked but understand why they where made. K S  not at the races at the minute, mc manus had his hands full so couldnt drive forward as much, hippy was finding moran a handfull. hats off to shane he worked his nuts of yesterday and if watson comes back with some sort off form we have some firepower for the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
The Skull1......these are not the best we have.There are Div 1 players who never get a look in.....why ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 02, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
The Skull1......these are not the best we have.There are Div 1 players who never get a look in.....why ?

What division 1 players are not getting a look in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
The Skull1......these are not the best we have.There are Div 1 players who never get a look in.....why ?

Bushwhacker who are these Div 1 players you think should be on the team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
The Skull1......these are not the best we have.There are Div 1 players who never get a look in.....why ?

My general point was that we haven't enough quality and commitment and development structures in Antrim to expect much more from our IC team
Are you implying that if Antrim played 'the best' that they had then (as a result of this change of personnel) there would be a noticeable improvement in our fortunes at IC level? I think we're arguing over a few points either way

As regards the why...I'm not sure. Would say some aren't prepared to commit.

Personally think that county teams come the summer should be run similar to international football. You'd have your cast iron squad members but with provision for players on form called up at short notice. It's not as if we're going to win the AI anytime soon so would be far better to improve the quality & marketing of the local game in the short to medium term. We're not Brazil......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 02, 2012, 12:16:25 PM
count yourselves lucky you're not going to be relegated like Down!! Now there is a county with FA structures in place and we're now overtaken by Armagh and Derry at juvenile level in particular for a good few years now.

IMO Antrim county team will always come second best to the clubs and March the 17th past will reinforce that.

The hurlers in Cushendall, Dunloy, St Galls, Ballycastle, Rossa, Johnnies etc, etc know that if you win the Antrim championship then you're realistically straight into an AI semi-final, with a real good chance of a celtic cross.

It'll be long and many's a day that an Antrim intercounty team can realistically put three or four big games out of them to get to an AI semi final even. That's the harsh reality of it all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on April 02, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 02, 2012, 12:16:25 PM
count yourselves lucky you're not going to be relegated like Down!! Now there is a county with FA structures in place and we're now overtaken by Armagh and Derry at juvenile level in particular for a good few years now.

IMO Antrim county team will always come second best to the clubs and March the 17th past will reinforce that.

The hurlers in Cushendall, Loughguile Dunloy, St Galls, Ballycastle, Rossa, Johnnies etc, etc know that if you win the Antrim championship then you're realistically straight into an AI semi-final, with a real good chance of a celtic cross.

It'll be long and many's a day that an Antrim intercounty team can realistically put three or four big games out of them to get to an AI semi final even. That's the harsh reality of it all.

Any team outside the top 3 haven't a snowball's hope in hell of a Celtic Cross.

Otherwise - I think what you are saying has merit.  Antrim hurlers don't do well because the majority simply don't believe they have it in them to win an AI title and so their commitment/effort levels are adjusted accordingly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 02, 2012, 01:11:23 PM
Franko, quite Frankly you are clearly out of touch including Dunloy!

Ballycastle and St.Gall's must be included before them now!

Wouldnt surprise me if Dunloy find themselves playing div 2 hurling next season :-[

I think shamrocks will be hard to beat - but i dont think there is much between these teams (even if they arE AI Champs)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 02, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
I randomly picked clubs FFS, but you get my drift.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on April 02, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
Fair enough, take Dunloy out.  They are on the wane a bit.

But you're most definitely not getting away with including Ballycastle and St. Gall's DearyMe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM
Ok Frank, can live with that - think Cushendal and Shamrocks consistently ahead of rest.

I worry for Dunloy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
saffrongael ...milltown row 2...I would respectively suggest that any player who plays in Div 1. week after week, league and championship,is playing at a higher level than Div 3 players,maybe you don't agree. A few years ago combined lower division teams from N.Antrim etc. played in the Senior championship,they were blown away.I could name Div 1 players who should get a chance,and could also name Div 2 and 3 players who are on the team and are obviously not up to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 02, 2012, 02:31:36 PM
Would have to agree with the Bush!

Although it is the case that many a lower league player shines on a county team. But unfortunately not this year.
In fact the opposite has happened.

Although i would group div 1 and 2 together and 3 and 4 way below!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Get off the fence and answer this (directed at whacker..who appears to never want to answer questions posed to him if it doesnt suit him).......what change of fortunes would you two expect to see if these people got their chance at IC?

Are we not arguing of a few points either way?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Im more interested to hear who he names from Div 1 who could contribute to the panel or team to make it better?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 02:52:46 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
saffrongael ...milltown row 2...I would respectively suggest that any player who plays in Div 1. week after week, league and championship,is playing at a higher level than Div 3 players,maybe you don't agree. A few years ago combined lower division teams from N.Antrim etc. played in the Senior championship,they were blown away.I could name Div 1 players who should get a chance,and could also name Div 2 and 3 players who are on the team and are obviously not up to it.

So when a Div 2 team beats one of the big Div 1 teams in Championship and runs the other one to a point then those Div 2 players aren't up to it, as you put it.

As Skull has said stop sitting on the fence and name your Div1, 15

as I'm sure you are aware, those combined teams were a farce, they didn't train nor did they give a shit, they were also intermediate and Junior teams who were far more interested in their own championship than playing Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
Two questions to answer

1) Just how much better do you think Antrim would be with these players playing. I'm saying it would be a few points either way. The problems are deeper than you're suggesting
2) Who are they
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
I know the problems are a good deal deeper,but every little helps. The underlying cause for lack of success in Antrim is the petty inter club jealousies that have existed for years,especially among the top N.Antrim clubs. No one needs look further than response from inside the county after Loughgiel's recent All - Ireland victory,the comments and "aye buttery" are very evident on this forum. We are more concerned with inter club rivalry than success at county level.Can you not see that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
I know the problems are a good deal deeper,but every little helps. The underlying cause for lack of success in Antrim is the petty inter club jealousies that have existed for years,especially among the top N.Antrim clubs. No one needs look further than response from inside the county after Loughgiel's recent All - Ireland victory,the comments and "aye buttery" are very evident on this forum. We are more concerned with inter club rivalry than success at county level.Can you not see that?

I can see you don't want to answer direct questions

If you make a statement that you are prepared to stand over it shouldn't be a problem should it? Then we can consider where you are coming from.

Two questions still to answer

1) Just how much better do you think Antrim would be with these players playing?
2) Who are they?

As regards underlying causes ...there are many

Low numbers relative to the strong counties.... playing, coaching and supporters
Only in some areas is it a religion, so lots of take it or leave it players/parents/coaches/supporters (and a lack of these as well in many places)
It takes alot of time and effort to develop good technique in hurlers... if the effort isn't put in early kids will struggle to compete and lose interest as a result
West Belfast social ills & too much choice reduces the possibility of good juveniles commiting to senior in the city.
Poorly run (and funded) development squad system which just goes through the motions. No real passion or ambition put into players at an IC level afaics. (One example. Heard this year that they had arranged to attend an U14 blitz in leinster on a date that NA Feile fixtures were arranged ....how does that happen when you have people in full time positions running the show?) 
etc etc .....


I'm sure club rivalry is as thick in other counties so don't see that it should be THEE big a problem as you say. Players generally have respect for each other
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 05:19:59 PM
Jaysus boys, have yous not seen enough of Dunloy over the last few years to know not to underestimate them? Remember when they won the championship in 2009, they were going to be stuffed by the Dall in the final after poor performances against Glenariffe and Ballycastle? I can assure you that we won't be underestimating them if our paths cross in this year's championship. And let's not forget the Mushy factor, if he makes it through the "skating on ice" fundraiser of course.  I fancy them to get past Ballycastle with 5 or 6 points to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 06:08:07 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 02, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
I know the problems are a good deal deeper,but every little helps. The underlying cause for lack of success in Antrim is the petty inter club jealousies that have existed for years,especially among the top N.Antrim clubs. No one needs look further than response from inside the county after Loughgiel's recent All - Ireland victory,the comments and "aye buttery" are very evident on this forum. We are more concerned with inter club rivalry than success at county level.Can you not see that?

On the line on Sunday for Antrim we had 3 clubs represented, Cushendall, St John's and Dunloy. Oh and Jackie from Naomh Gall ;)

This forum Buswhacker is not the reason why we were beat, sorry hammered, or the reason why we can't compete with the bigger teams.

As for petty inter club jealousies, what county doesn't have them, check out the Tyrone threads FFS, they hate each other and their games always end up on TV or the back pages, they still manage to win the odd All Ireland with Div 2 players to boot!!

As for the response on this forum about Loughgiel's win, forget that, what do you care what someone from Dunloy thinks? For me that's the reason why it drives clubs on. A lot of clubs out there hate Naomh Gall cause they are winning the Championship too much, tough. Don't think our lads give a hoot and will continue to win it as much as the other clubs allow it.

I don't know the set up at County level, do players not have respect for each other or a sense of loyalty to Antrim? I love my club but I'd still like to see the county hurling team improve it's standing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
hear johnny campbell has hung up the inter county boots, i suppose he has had enough.  his form has been better but still think he would of had something to offer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 02, 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Any word on the knock Hippy took? Would have been a fan of having McManus at centre half but coming to the conclusion we need him in the forwards to win ball. Antrim seemed to take the field very late and had a pretty desultory puck around (although I got in late and may have missed a previous warm up). Good start but heads dropped very quickly after the two goals. Thought Antrim spilled some amount of catches in the first half although McFall caught a few in the second half.

Crowd was pretty pathetic for a team (nominally) in with a chance of getting to a divisional final. Shame if it's true that Johnny Campbell is giving up the county but he has certainly soldiered manfully for the cause over the years.

Would love to know who these Division 1 stars are who aren't getting a crack at the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on April 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
hear johnny campbell has hung up the inter county boots, i suppose he has had enough.  his form has been better but still think he would of had something to offer
You hear right unfortunately, a great servant to Antrim.

I hear from a very good source that the Loughgiel boys were given less than a warm welcome back into the Antrim fold. Half the squad not talking or even looking at them. Sambo has apparently been very frosty towards them. Winker went into the Casement bar after the game on Sunday and said hello to Dick, who in return blanked him and walked out. Apparently morale is low among some of the squad as well, not the LG players, unsurprisingly. I was told Wallace has sat the whole she-bang down and told them to grow and wise up. Jealously alive and well in Antrim it seems. Maybe if certain individuals showed a bit of leadership within the Antrim set up, rather than jealously, and that's what it is btw,  maybe the team's fortunes would improve. Sadly, I can't see things improving anytime soon.   :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 02, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Sounds horrendous for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 02, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
yeah JC will be a miss but i suppose a lot of miles on the clock.  Very worried about the spirit in the camp if there are certain groups not pulling together.  All-Ireland club is over, everyone should get over it and move on, the loughgiel lads included.  It is about Antrim now and after Sunday we have our work cut out. this will be a test for Jerry and is back up team.  i would assume the players go back to the clubs now for a while in preparation for the league.  looking forward to it, i reckon the Dall will win the 1st division with glenariffe possibly edging out a few city teams for promotion. Galls will off course be strong, would buy into the lethargic attitude of MR2.  what has happened the dream team in Armagh they seem to have struggled badly in that league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 02, 2012, 10:19:51 PM
Didnt make it to game on sunday either, was hoping to get up but didnt work out. So how bad was it? Did anyone come away with any dignity? How did Barney play? I see he came on in the paper..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on April 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
hear johnny campbell has hung up the inter county boots, i suppose he has had enough.  his form has been better but still think he would of had something to offer
You hear right unfortunately, a great servant to Antrim.

I hear from a very good source that the Loughgiel boys were given less than a warm welcome back into the Antrim fold. Half the squad not talking or even looking at them. Sambo has apparently been very frosty towards them. Winker went into the Casement bar after the game on Sunday and said hello to Dick, who in return blanked him and walked out. Apparently morale is low among some of the squad as well, not the LG players, unsurprisingly. I was told Wallace has sat the whole she-bang down and told them to grow and wise up. Jealously alive and well in Antrim it seems. Maybe if certain individuals showed a bit of leadership within the Antrim set up, rather than jealously, and that's what it is btw,  maybe the team's fortunes would improve. Sadly, I can't see things improving anytime soon.   :(

What a big woman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: saffronog on April 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
hear johnny campbell has hung up the inter county boots, i suppose he has had enough.  his form has been better but still think he would of had something to offer
You hear right unfortunately, a great servant to Antrim.

I hear from a very good source that the Loughgiel boys were given less than a warm welcome back into the Antrim fold. Half the squad not talking or even looking at them. Sambo has apparently been very frosty towards them. Winker went into the Casement bar after the game on Sunday and said hello to Dick, who in return blanked him and walked out. Apparently morale is low among some of the squad as well, not the LG players, unsurprisingly. I was told Wallace has sat the whole she-bang down and told them to grow and wise up. Jealously alive and well in Antrim it seems. Maybe if certain individuals showed a bit of leadership within the Antrim set up, rather than jealously, and that's what it is btw,  maybe the team's fortunes would improve. Sadly, I can't see things improving anytime soon.   :(

What a big woman
Who skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:33:38 PM
You
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 02, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
yeah JC will be a miss but i suppose a lot of miles on the clock.  Very worried about the spirit in the camp if there are certain groups not pulling together.  All-Ireland club is over, everyone should get over it and move on, the loughgiel lads included.  It is about Antrim now and after Sunday we have our work cut out. this will be a test for Jerry and is back up team.  i would assume the players go back to the clubs now for a while in preparation for the league.  looking forward to it, i reckon the Dall will win the 1st division with glenariffe possibly edging out a few city teams for promotion. Galls will off course be strong, would buy into the lethargic attitude of MR2.  what has happened the dream team in Armagh they seem to have struggled badly in that league

Would or wouldn't? What dream team? Our best performance was in Casement v Dunloy last year. There are splits in many camps/clubs even, so people need to man up FFS.

Management is so fooking hard these days, kids are not as passionate as they were back in the day and it will be Jerry's main job to bring them together, instead of doing what he should be doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:33:38 PM
You
Wtf are you on about now?  Personal insults again, you really could do better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:43:04 PM
Hands up who thinks SIE is a big gossipin' woman for posting that?

You've became part of the problem posting that (if indeed there is one) bitchy tittle tattle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:43:04 PM
Hands up who thinks SIE is a big gossipin' woman for posting that?

You've became part of the problem posting that (if indeed there is one) bitchy tittle tattle
Jesus skull, get down from that high horse for god sake. This came from someone I trust and respect, not tittle tattle. Perhaps people like you should wake up and see what is really going on at county level rather than nit picking other posters' contributions. If the half of what I heard tonight is true then there are problems. Perhaps if they're talked about it might get sorted. Or we could do what you want and brush them under the carpet and continue with the status quo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
Explain the high horse bit

I'm accusing you of being a big gossiping woman regardless of there being any truth in what you've reported

People with more sense would keep their candour and let those things get resolved internally. I'm sure the person who told you didn't expect you to tell the world about it

You're not helping anyone posting that...that's for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 02, 2012, 11:00:29 PM
heard a few stories myself but wasn't going to bother posting anything on here,   do use not think all the top counties hate each other a club level?   FACT they do,  the gaa thrives on it.   but come county level they put there problems aside and get stuck in as a team,   all bar Galway,  which has prob cost themselves an AI over childish bullshit like this  over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
Explain the high horse bit

I'm accusing you of being a big gossiping woman regardless of there being any truth in what you've reported

People with more sense would keep their candour and let those things get resolved internally. I'm sure the person who told you didn't expect you to tell the world about it

You're not helping anyone posting that...that's for sure
On the contrary, I was asked to post it. He wanted it out there. If he didn't, I wouldn't have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2012, 11:04:18 PM
Sie I pay great attention to your posts - normally knowledgable and fair.

But that is ridiculous!

Firstly I don't believe for one second dick o Kane blanked Watson. Why would he? Also that story could only have came from Liam himself - which makes me question his motivation. And btw - he was drunk in casement bar and very loud!

Next - it sounds like the shamrocks went back with an attitude. I mean do they want the rest of the squad (together without them for 3months) to roll out a Red carpet and hug and kiss them. It's big boys grow up.

Shamrocks need to grit their teeth, leave their medals at the door, and pull on the saffron jersey like everyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 02, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2012, 11:04:18 PM
Sie I pay great attention to your posts - normally knowledgable and fair.

But that is ridiculous!

Firstly I don't believe for one second dick o Kane blanked Watson. Why would he? Also that story could only have came from Liam himself - which makes me question his motivation. And btw - he was drunk in casement bar and very loud!

Next - it sounds like the shamrocks went back with an attitude. I mean do they want the rest of the squad (together without them for 3months) to roll out a Red carpet and hug and kiss them. It's big boys grow up.

Shamrocks need to grit their teeth, leave their medals at the door, and pull on the saffron jersey like everyone else.
so hold on here a min!!!   its the shamrocks fault??    God f**king jesus!!   winning something outside of the north should nearly be boosting the county???   not our bloody fault it was an "easy" draw.   and not our fault dunloy or the dall never won an all ireland,   so maybe they should grit their teeth and get on with it!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Listen, there were several witnesses to it. Believe what you want. And like I say, I was told by someone who has always been up front and honest before. Why would he change now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
On the contrary, I was asked to post it. He wanted it out there. If he didn't, I wouldn't have.

Begs the question....why didn't you tell him to tell the tale himself if he wanted it told?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 02, 2012, 11:22:30 PM
The Loughgiel boys have only been back for a week..2 sessions & a match I'd imagine...if I was them
I wouldnt panic. Due to the club commitments they haven't been there for the 3 months the squad has being training..it'll take a few weeks for them to blend back in. Some players may be jealous of the AI win..more than likely other players are pissed off that they know that some of the lgiel players will take their place. A fair few of the Antrim squad are new this year & probably don't know some of the players personally. I'd say they are being paranoid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2012, 11:28:22 PM
Not at all sleeping giant - if there is a problem with people mixing I think it's both their issues. Both parties have their part to play. The onus is not just on the saffrons to lie at the feet of the shamrocks so to speak - 20to30 year olds ate not like that!

Sorry SIE but dick is an honourable man with nothing to gain from clanking Watson. Liam was drunk in the bar and find if telling elaborate stories - and I can tell u that 1st hand.

Listen - shamrocks back on board. They no higher status than the rest. One jersey. That applies to the rest of the squad also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 12:12:50 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 02, 2012, 10:19:51 PM
Didnt make it to game on sunday either, was hoping to get up but didnt work out. So how bad was it? Did anyone come away with any dignity? How did Barney play? I see he came on in the paper..

we where struggling in midfield, took shorty off and put Karl in at FF. brought on MC fall and barney. MC fall made in impact but barney wasn't involved much seems to have lost a bit or pace. I don't know about dignity but Shane worked his guts out, MC manus to busy putting out fires to have any impact on the scoreboard. Hippy pulled a hamstring. on the plus side young gettins looks like a prospect and if MC Fall would just go up a gear he has all the tools.Overall we looked to small to trouble them in the physical stakes(big lads) and under pressure shooting to many wides of even worse hitting useless ball in to the forwards. I think we dropped six balls into there keepers hand to. wrong options all over the place

SIE if dick snubbed Watson don't assume right away its because he has a all ireland medal. More likely its because if he could be there to show the Tommy Moore, why not come to training last week and line out with DD and co. would you please cut out this dribble about everyone eyeballing because off your recent success. your doing your club a disservice here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 03, 2012, 01:18:20 AM
Watson was definitely snubbed and he wasn't drunk at all...in fact this is a total bullshit lie. SIE I totally agree with your comments. Its about time we all pulled together and if this shit is happening then it must be stamped out or Antrim are wasting their time.

On the hurling front this was rubbish...and I mean rubbish. Only DD, Shane and to a lesser extent Eddie an Graffin showed anything. McManus needs to grow up and become a team player and not a petulant child...and some of the other lads need to wake up and smell the roses and start putting in a shift or two.

Obviously need Watson back and possible one or two others from Loughgiel and the likes of Donal Natty, Michael armstrong, young mcguiness from rossa and others.

Finally shorty you should watch what ye say in the press....it has an awful habit of coming back to bite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
On the contrary, I was asked to post it. He wanted it out there. If he didn't, I wouldn't have.

Begs the question....why didn't you tell him to tell the tale himself if he wanted it told?
Because he isn't a member of this board and has no desire in becoming one. Like a few people I know he reads the board to keep up with what's going on in other counties and clubs, knowledge is power and all that, but doesn't post. I did this myself for a good couple of years before I joined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 06:21:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 12:12:50 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 02, 2012, 10:19:51 PM
Didnt make it to game on sunday either, was hoping to get up but didnt work out. So how bad was it? Did anyone come away with any dignity? How did Barney play? I see he came on in the paper..

we where struggling in midfield, took shorty off and put Karl in at FF. brought on MC fall and barney. MC fall made in impact but barney wasn't involved much seems to have lost a bit or pace. I don't know about dignity but Shane worked his guts out, MC manus to busy putting out fires to have any impact on the scoreboard. Hippy pulled a hamstring. on the plus side young gettins looks like a prospect and if MC Fall would just go up a gear he has all the tools.Overall we looked to small to trouble them in the physical stakes(big lads) and under pressure shooting to many wides of even worse hitting useless ball in to the forwards. I think we dropped six balls into there keepers hand to. wrong options all over the place

SIE if dick snubbed Watson don't assume right away its because he has a all ireland medal. More likely its because if he could be there to show the Tommy Moore, why not come to training last week and line out with DD and co. would you please cut out this dribble about everyone eyeballing because off your recent success. your doing your club a disservice here
Watson asked Wallace if it was ok to take an extra week off, the manager had no problem with this. It's in an interview with Wallace on the Antrim page of the hoganstand. It's no one else's call to make or judge. And as for eyeballing, it certainly happened in the Antrim training. Maybe those who were eyeballing should grow up because they aren't doing their county and respective clubs any great service either. To suggest it isn't happening is at best naive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 07:37:58 AM
I repeat...REGARDLESS of there being any truth in what your saying you are a big bitching woman  for bringing such stories (one sided perspectives dressed as black and white truths ) out into the open in a public forum.

That's how these things get out of hand when one side wants to pump out certain 'truths' whilst conveniently neglecting to mention others. YOU are fanning the flames SIE and making the situation more difficult to address (if it does need addressing). I'm sure GW is happy to know he's got someone in his panel reporting all the goings on inside the camp.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 08:29:37 AM
 The fact you keep personality insulting me makes your POV less relevant to me. Then again you do tend to revert to this method of put down. And you know what people say about those who stoop to those depths.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 03, 2012, 09:06:56 AM
Sie, if Watson was so keen on you informing the masses on this snub by Dick why why did he remove his drunken facebook rant from his status on Sun night Monday morning, why not have the balls to leave it on, or perhaps he realised it is something and nothing. Don't get me wrong i like quite a few Dall men have no real love for either, but do appreciate their hurling ability. We are all big boys, the lads have 2 weeks off training and go back to their clubs so hopefully it will be forgotten by then(depending on Sundays match though).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
I'm ridiculing you for well explained reasons SIE. Reasons you don't really want to address.

Very convenient for you to huff over being called what you are (in regards to posting that).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 09:14:49 AM
I didn't say it was winker that told me. Whoever told me is irrelevant. There's a bigger problem to deal with here. I don't know what the answer is but at least its out there.


*edit

Just checked winkers fb page, it's still very much there jamesh. Oh, and it was posted at 6.36pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 09:24:47 AM
I was in Casement afterwards too, well only had the one but wish I'd have stayed a wee while longer, seems i missed the craic.

He said she said. Lets try stick to facts for a change. When was the last time (regardless of winning championships) that Dick and Watson sat down and had a good auld conversation? Discussed things like hurling in Antrim and how their kids were doing and what the future holds????????????

I'm going to hazard a guess and say never and never will. Same as some of our senior footballers won't be talking to Lamhs men or even Cargin men any day soon.

I might head up to the Dunloy v Loughgiel game. think it will be a cracker ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 09:38:57 AM
Leave the board for a couple of hours and madness ensues, couple of points just on what has been said.

The LG boys didnt get  the red carpet treatment on their return - Dont know what they expected Im sure they got congratulations from the manager and players but after that they rest of the squad were there for an ordinary training session to them St Patricks day is in the past even though the LG boys are still enjoying it (and why wouldnt they)

Dick O'Kane blanks Watson in Casement bar - Any one who has met DOK would know that he is a hurling person and would be more keen for Watson to have been on the field in casement on sunday than in around the bar. I for one would pretty sure that he wouldnt blank anyone let alone a player that he is hoping to have as part of the Antrim panel in the summer. This would be especially more so the case with the player in question having drink on him


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 09:47:59 AM
These forums are more bother than they're worth,a lot of amateur opinions and then the usual animosity starts creeping in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 09:50:56 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 09:47:59 AM
These forums are more bother than they're worth,a lot of amateur opinions and then the usual animosity starts creeping in.

Bushwhacker, what is an amateur opinion?  ;)
I thought we were all amateurs at the end of the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
Look we can argue about the diffrence between Liam Watson drinking (vs) being drunk but NAG makes a great point - Gregory OKane will speak to Liam Watson about hurling and on a hurling pitch - not in a bar thru alcohol! Fair play Dick! Proper order! And like I said the form Waston was in not many would have fancied a decent converstaion - and that is fact.
Poor Liam - I am a superstar and someone didnt fall at my feet? So I will put it on Facebook? What a player, but lets not kid ourselves that he is an ambassador off the field.

I have all the time in the world for Loughuiel and their acheivements - but when it comes to the county set up they need to get over themselves and quickly. Lord it in Loughiel by all means and well deserved but when it comes to Casement leave it at the gate - its only Antrim and what they do wearing the county shirt that counts there.

No thats done - the boys are back with their clubs?
Doesnt sound like Dunloy have much to trouble Loughiel on the field, MR2 are you hoping for more than a hurling match lol?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
Look we can argue about the diffrence between Liam Watson drinking (vs) being drunk but NAG makes a great point - Gregory OKane will speak to Liam Watson about hurling and on a hurling pitch - not in a bar thru alcohol! Fair play Dick! Proper order! And like I said the form Waston was in not many would have fancied a decent converstaion - and that is fact.
Poor Liam - I am a superstar and someone didnt fall at my feet? So I will put it on Facebook? What a player, but lets not kid ourselves that he is an ambassador off the field.

I have all the time in the world for Loughuiel and their acheivements - but when it comes to the county set up they need to get over themselves and quickly. Lord it in Loughiel by all means and well deserved but when it comes to Casement leave it at the gate - its only Antrim and what they do wearing the county shirt that counts there.

No thats done - the boys are back with their clubs?
Doesnt sound like Dunloy have much to trouble Loughiel on the field, MR2 are you hoping for more than a hurling match lol?

No, just looking to see the difference in the two teams, wondering how well Dunloy have trained and with Loughgiel at the standard they are at will that be the same come league. Be interesting. Love to referee it lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 09:47:59 AM
These forums are more bother than they're worth,a lot of amateur opinions and then the usual animosity starts creeping in.

Who knows what that really means or who it's being directed it toward?

You're not great at being specific are you. Those questions posed to you yesterday will never get answered

+1 HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 10:10:29 AM
Yip, sorry Loughiel boys but HardStation has summed this all up - embarrassing.
Dunno if this sounds worse for ye or your players but please just leave it in the Pound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept


Are you reading my passage?? Nobody has asked for red carpet treatment... And I am not interested in what went on in casement bar...
But I was told by a person from Carey and a person from creggan who were at the game that cushendall players would not pass to Loughgiel players on the field..All i was asking is if anyone could confirm this or were these two seperate individuals seeing something different???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:17:20 AM
Its just the latest claim in a series of ridiculous claims from yourself and your club mates on here.

The boys werent asking for it yet when it did or didnt happen, posters are on here bitching about it? Cant have it both ways.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2012, 10:22:07 AM
The "not passing the ball claim" is ridiculous, but is in keeping with some of the other stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2012, 10:22:07 AM
The "not passing the ball claim" is ridiculous, but is in keeping with some of the other stuff.

OK I'll take ur word for it but i was only following up on two reports I got from independant sources.  But if you say its untrue then thats good for antrim! Because we'd be going nowhere with an attitude like that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: groundlie on April 03, 2012, 10:24:15 AM
I heard that Winker offered Dick O'Kane a dance off in Casement bar, Dick nodded his head in agreement and without speaking left to get his favorite dancing shoes. On Dicks return to Casement Winker had left claiming Dick had blanked him. For god sake Winker the man was only going to get his dancing shoes! The funny thing is if the proposed dance off had taken place we wouldnt be talking about all this today!

LOL. Is this a reliable source? I think im going to go with this story!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 03, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2012, 10:22:07 AM
The "not passing the ball claim" is ridiculous, but is in keeping with some of the other stuff.
They have a point though Minder...how many times did DD receive a pass?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 03, 2012, 10:28:40 AM
The 'not passing the ball' is very evident in football!!! - Go to games and watch, see for yourself, providing of course you can read a game.

If what is being said is true - its all a management issue, fact.  Its up to Jerry to sort it, end of!

Some ridiculous comments alright on here! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 11:15:31 AM
I know it sounds petty but in all honesty im not nit picking on a club level, im saying as an antrim man i hope that club differences can be put aside for the betterment of antrim hurling.  Theres nothing I want more than to see antrim striving towards an all ireland quarter final and hopefully a semi final which if everyone was firing on all cylinders could be a realistic goal! Id also love to see come the end of the year 2-3 antrim hurlers in the position to be all star nominees! Also something that is not beyond the realms! But based on the current standing this seems a million miles away but I think the players are there to make a bit of inroads this year if they can really drive on and pull together!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: groundlie on April 03, 2012, 10:32:56 AM
I heard that Jerry was running about trying to speak with a thick loughgeil ulster scots accent trying to mock the loughgeil boys. Not on!

First one was funny but dont be thinking ur on a roll now..lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept


Are you reading my passage?? Nobody has asked for red carpet treatment... And I am not interested in what went on in casement bar...
But I was told by a person from Carey and a person from creggan who were at the game that cushendall players would not pass to Loughgiel players on the field..All i was asking is if anyone could confirm this or were these two seperate individuals seeing something different???

this is a total nonense shamrock, eddy scored two points, one was form a puk out won from dd but the second was a pass from micko i think out to the wings where he he was standing in space. joey and barney didnt get get into the game at all thats nobody elses fault. DD played a blinder its good to have him back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
Can we just rewind a bit and establish at what point anyone from Loughgiel asked for any special treatment?? Im pretty sure that when the 4-5 Loughgiel lads went up to training on Tuesday past they didnt expect anything other than to get on with there hurling and be treated the same as everyone else.  Now i know DOK is a hurling man and Dunloy man through and through. But when he takes a position as a county selector he must afford the same treatment to each individual no matter which club they are from. Now I am not referring to any incident in casement bar as I dont know the facts surrounding that. But out on the field he must show a sense of unity within the squad so that everyone can unite as a team and show no signs of divisions in the team.  As i said before i wasnt at the game at the weekend but from conversations ive had with people who were at the game (not just Loughgiel people) the general opinion was that there were certain individuals who would not pass the ball to Loughgiel players.  Now if that is the case then its simply not good enough!! Is there any truth in this? For the sake of antrim I hope that club issues can be put aside while wearing the county jersey!

First the boys dont get the red carpet at training
second a selector blanks one of them in the bar
third the other boys dont want to pass the ball to them


Jesus wept


Are you reading my passage?? Nobody has asked for red carpet treatment... And I am not interested in what went on in casement bar...
But I was told by a person from Carey and a person from creggan who were at the game that cushendall players would not pass to Loughgiel players on the field..All i was asking is if anyone could confirm this or were these two seperate individuals seeing something different???

this is a total nonense shamrock, eddy scored two points, one was form a puk out won from dd but the second was a pass from micko i think out to the wings where he he was standing in space. joey and barney didnt get get into the game at all thats nobody elses fault. DD played a blinder its good to have him back.

OK thats fine, as i said i only wanted to raise the issue as it was pointed out to me by two people who were at the game. I wasnt at it so i cant judge for myself. As per the replies on here it must have been false info i received so i can drop the issue.  I heard DD played very well and also confirmed in Irish news so fair play to him.  I enquired about how the Loughgiel contingent played and was told DD was very good, Eddie was in and out of it and that things improved a little when Barney and Joey came in. But it was a Loughgiel person told me that so maybe biased..

So where do we go now? Seems very doom and gloom at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 12:02:34 PM
Quote from: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
But it was a Loughgiel person told me that so maybe biased..

So where do we go now? Seems very doom and gloom at the moment.

At least youre open to that possibility Shamrockman. Biased gossip (you know .....the type of tittle tattle wimmin would come out with :-*) dressed up as black and white fact with total disregard for the impact of the spouting that gossip helps no one. Grown up men should know better to keep those type of stories away from internet forums. But the likes of SIE and others think otherwise. Imagine the stories we all could tell if we lined up with his way of thinking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 03, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
No its not that the players would'nt pass to each other McManus needs a field to himself to play in cos he'll pass to no one and listen to no one.

Im sure inwardly the Loughgiel people are having a good laugh at this. THEY are all ireland champions for a second time. Now anyone in their right mind should acknowledge that they have 5-6 players who are needed, required to help the county team. These players are the same as anyone else, will train hard and work hard to be part of a TEAM.

I know for fact this is not the case and would argue this and can prove it. There are players on the county panel whp havent spoke to some of the Loughgiel players on return to the county. Furthermore some players playing on Sunday woudnt listen to what the captain and manager were telling them. This is fact and the players were told so afterwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
 Amateur opinion and amateur punditry are the sort of things things we see on this forum,put there by people like you and me who are not professional sports writers,but think we are.We really haven't a clue and let personal prejudices run riot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 12:47:40 PM
Winkers a terrible dancer,I've seen him try in the Pound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 01:04:59 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
Amateur opinion and amateur punditry are the sort of things things we see on this forum,put there by people like you and me who are not professional sports writers,but think we are.We really haven't a clue and let personal prejudices run riot.

Im not completely sure but I am pretty sure that no one gets paid for their opinions on here, or maybe I am owed a fortune, who do I see about claiming my money back?  ;)

Most people on here are genuine GAA/ Hurling people who want to see Antrim and their clubs doing well, they are not interested in petty rivalries or some of the whataboutery that has been on here in the last few weeks.

So if your on here with an opinion be prepared to back it up when someone questions it or maybe it wasnt worth posting it in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2012, 01:11:42 PM
Photos and video evidence?? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 03, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
Site has gotten shocking as last while, what happens within the team should remain within the team, petty squabble just looks embarssing. 

First round of league matches ahead, good that Jerry is giving county men a break for a few weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 03, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
Site has gotten shocking as last while, what happens within the team should remain within the team, petty squabble just looks em barssing. 

First round of league matches ahead, good that Jerry is giving county men a break for a few weeks.

+1 Some of the info disclosed on here lately is unbelievable. All this talk of cold shoulder treatment and not passing. one county panelist a bit worst for wear in the bar instead of togging out and then getting a cold stare from a selector for it. talk about a persecution complex. Not much point in telling these clowns to keep this stuff to themselves as people from other counties could be reading this. And if its true or not that's not the point, this is in house Antrim stuff and shouldn't be made availale for public domain. Completely Embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 02:25:18 PM
I'd love to hear SIE (after considered reflection) properly defend why posting what he posted was the right thing to do and was for the greater good of Antrim hurling but much like the likes of whacker he'll more than likely crawl under a rock for a day or two rather than explain himself.....or he'll just not answer the difficult questions posed.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 02:47:21 PM
OK OK you have me - what did he post on Facebook?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shamrockman on April 03, 2012, 03:02:40 PM
By sounds of it not many players covered themselves in glory at weekend so i suppose there are still a lot of positions up for grabs. Wonder will there be many changes between now and start of c'ship? I wouldnt like to be picking the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2012, 03:03:03 PM
Why come on a discussion forum if you arent prepared to discuss anything, you throw statements out and then never back them up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 03:53:13 PM
Some of you take yourselves far to seriously,challenging other forum users who are only there for the craic. Who cares what any of us think,it won't make a jot of difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 03:53:13 PM
Some of you take yourselves far to seriously,challenging other forum users who are only there for the craic. Who cares what any of us think,it won't make a jot of difference.

Lets see ..taking things too seriously ....

Insinuation by yourself of me making light of Loughgiels primary school being vandalised by scumbags destroying bunting prior to the AICF when I in fact was the first person to call these scumbags what they were, and then when asked to clarify you went to ground (a personal spat I had with whacker a while ago)

A report by SIE of loughgiel players being given the cold shoulder on return to the county set up with specific offending individuals mentioned explictly, potentially harming the chances of resolving the issue as it is now obvious that someone (and possibly more than one lg player) in the squad is leaking stories (with a very one sided perspective) which don't need to be spoken about outside the camp.

Some craic alright whacker ....when it suits you. You have no idea if it will make a difference or not btw

Still not going to answer simple questions to back up those opinions you were so sure about yesterday? What is so difficult about it? If you believe it to be true ..back it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 05:38:24 PM
Look poster can't come on and post and say 'get a life' when they should maybe get out and get a life themselves if they are posting. That's silly.

If someone posts on other threads and has been on the forum longer than others then they will have posted more.

What we need to do is debate things which we have thoughts on. I don't need to know Loughgiel dislike Dunloy and vice versa.

IT'S BORING FFS


If people have something to say and are challenged then it's good manners/etiquette to back up your thoughts, hey ya know what, sometimes we (i.e posters) aren't always right!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 03, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
Wouldn't like to misquote Watson, so if Sie has as he tells us the inside track perhaps he can tell us. But weather Dick sneaked in as suggested Watson really started all this crap., by telling you and then talking crap on FB. Why did he remove it? I suspect he sobered up or was told to wise up by his teacher. Can we leave it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 03, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
This has got out of hand. Can someone not start up a new thread called stupid rumours so everyone can argue unimportant crap there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 03, 2012, 06:14:36 PM
Wouldn't like to misquote Watson, so if Sie has as he tells us the inside track perhaps he can tell us. But weather Dick sneaked in as suggested Watson really started all this crap., by telling you and then talking crap on FB. Why did he remove it? I suspect he sobered up or was told to wise up by his teacher. Can we leave it now.
He didn't remove it, as I told you earlier it's still there. And as I also told you earlier, I didn't say I was talking to winker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
I think some boys on here think that this forum is much more important than it really is. Everything I posted is true, like it or lump it. The thing that stands out for me is that I don't see any condemnation of the offenders in this whole scenario. Nobody was expecting to be treated like royalty, but they did expect to be treated with the dignity and respect you'd expect for All-Ireland champions. Not half the team and mentors ignoring them, that is where the problem lies in all of this.  Whether anyone of them read this or not maybe they'll think twice next time.

And skull, I was asked to post it, that's the reason I posted it. I already explained this to you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 03, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
what a pile of shite, here is an interesting topic to get you ladies to down the handbags and back on hurling issues.

Who is the top scorer from play at intercounty level in this past 10 years ???

winner gets a clap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 03, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
what a pile of shite, here is an interesting topic to get you ladies to down the handbags and back on hurling issues.

Who is the top scorer from play at intercounty level in this past 10 years ???

winner gets a clap
John Mullane.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
That's a pity,they might have picked up a few tips on how to win important matches!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
Never mind the fact that "truth" when it comes to these things is very subjective

SIE, you really believe that if some bit of gossip is true, it's OK to post it up on the world wide web? You haven't really thought this through have you. Then theres the reasoning that because someone else wanted you to post it ..like a lap dog you posted it (almost abdicating responsibility for posting it)

I'll tell you what, I've my own bit of gossip from Sunday which I know for a fact to be 100% true. If I PM you the details would you post it up on the board for me? Personally I'd be embarrassed to post it but going by your reasoning so far, there's a chance you might be interested. On second thoughts, you mightn't like this truth, you mightn't like it at all...but it's a truth after all so....maybe

Anyway let me know if you'll post it (seeing that it is 100% true) and I'll forward it onto you asap.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 03, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
what a pile of shite, here is an interesting topic to get you ladies to down the handbags and back on hurling issues.

Who is the top scorer from play at intercounty level in this past 10 years ???

winner gets a clap

either shefflin or eoin kelly imm going with shefflin( I heard hes leaving the kilkenny panel now as he went to training last week and one of the mentors didnt give him a welcome kiss, hes suppossed to be very upset over it)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
Never mind the fact that "truth" when it comes to these things is very subjective

SIE, you really believe that if some bit of gossip is true, it's OK to post it up on the world wide web? You haven't really thought this through have you. Then theres the reasoning that because someone else wanted you to post it ..like a lap dog you posted it (almost abdicating responsibility for posting it)

I'll tell you what, I've my own bit of gossip from Sunday which I know for a fact to be 100% true. If I PM you the details would you post it up on the board for me? Personally I'd be embarrassed to post it but going by your reasoning so far, there's a chance you might be interested. On second thoughts, you mightn't like this truth, you mightn't like it at all...but it's a truth after all so....maybe

Anyway let me know if you'll post it (seeing that it is 100% true) and I'll forward it onto you asap.
Agh no skull, unlike who I heard it from, I don't trust you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 03, 2012, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 03, 2012, 08:08:45 PM
what a pile of shite, here is an interesting topic to get you ladies to down the handbags and back on hurling issues.

Who is the top scorer from play at intercounty level in this past 10 years ???

winner gets a clap
John Mullane.

that was the name of the top scorer for the last 8 years, well done it was Mullane.  My question was for 10 years. 

good answer all the same.  Still think you are very close to the team, possibly trained a few other teams as well SIE and had a career cut short.  ????  listen, clear jerry wants the loughgiel men, off course there will be a few noses out of joint.  but the world isn't always perfect. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 03, 2012, 09:22:53 PM
Yeah,yeah, that's hysterical NAB..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 09:30:09 PM
I don't wanna prolong this thread which is embarrassing but SIE u miss the point.

U said the loughiel boys should be treated with "dignity & respect" yes they should - as all players and mentors should.

But when u say "as all Ireland champions" u miss that this has no relevance. Antrim are not all ireland champions. And when a shamrock walks into the dressing room he becomes and Antrim player - leave ur loughuile and your medals outside.

Ur boys obviously had a notion that the welcome back would come with some form of deference - well it shouldn't. Young men don't behave like that. The whole panel have different goals and ambition which applies to Antrim not St Patricks day.

Shamrocks need to get their head round that cos everything else will not change for them.
Now grow up, man up, and get on with it.

Honestly the whole this demeans us - somehow I don't see big counties having such petulant soap operas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2012, 09:30:09 PM
I don't wanna prolong this thread which is embarrassing but SIE u miss the point.

U said the loughiel boys should be treated with "dignity & respect" yes they should - as all players and mentors should.

But when u say "as all Ireland champions" u miss that this has no relevance. Antrim are not all ireland champions. And when a shamrock walks into the dressing room he becomes and Antrim player - leave ur loughuile and your medals outside.

Ur boys obviously had a notion that the welcome back would come with some form of deference - well it shouldn't. Young men don't behave like that. The whole panel have different goals and ambition which applies to Antrim not St Patricks day.

Shamrocks need to get their head round that cos everything else will not change for them.
Now grow up, man up, and get on with it.

Honestly the whole this demeans us - somehow I don't see big counties having such petulant soap operas.
Fair enough, perhaps common courtesy would've sufficed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 03, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
From county site. Fair play to Jerry

ENIOR HURLING, INTER COUNTY

The 2012 National Division !B Hurling League has now concluded for Aontroim Senior Hurling and here is a brief report.

Games
Aontroim 3.20    Loughgeil  3.17         S.H.Challenge        22nd January 2012
Aontroim 1.21    Ulster       0.12         S.H.Challenge        11th  February 2012
Aontroim 3.18    Wexford   2.15         NHL 2012               26th February 2012
Aontroim 0.12    Clare        0.20        NHL 2012(a)           11th March 2012
Aontroim 1.17    Offlay       1.22        NHL 2012 (a)          18th March 2012
Aontroim 2.18    Laois        2.16        NHL 2012 (a)          25th March 2012
Aontroim 0.17    Limerick   3.22         NHL 2012               1st April 2012

Consoladation

                    " It would be a huge disappointment for Antrim if they were to drop down a division, especially if it was caused by their County Champions doing so well, but it's a real possibility" Irish Independent 25/2/2012 (Martin Breheny)

Well we have achieved and consoladated our position in Division 1B for the 2013 Hurling League.This will afford the development of Hurling in Aontroim quality games and also focus the "change of attitude to the league" mindset,  as the league can no longer be ignored with the tougher and more accomplished opposition that sit within Division 1B. Our league form was about getting a competitive, improved, better balanced side with plenty of ambition (no excuses for the absence of the Loughgeil players) together and this remains the task going forward for the management team.

Minor Hurling

Sambo and his management team and players are to be credited for their performances to-date. Support from the Clubs and Divisions are needed to help "Identify an evening" that can be set aside for the collective training of the County Minor Hurling Panel and Development panel.

FE21 Hurling

As Senior Hurling Manager with a link to this group, up to last Saturday March 21st, I have to express my disappointment. Approximately 68 players between the age of 19 and under 21 were identified by a process of involving the clubs in late October 2011 to nominate players for consideration. John MacIntosh and Danny Simpson were appointed to oversee the workings of this "Development Concept". The squad were and are placed in UUJ training venue with notification of training/games placed on the Aontroim web-site. The debacle of last years F21 Inter County game v Dublin in the championship are well documented. I as senior hurling manager has at this stage got to question the "Attitude" of the players to this initiative to develope the Intercounty Fe 21s. Aontroim needs to see a "Change of Attitude" and "Support" to this initiative.


GOING FORWARD

The Senior Inter County Hurling/ Fe 21 Hurling programs take a time out until Tuesday 17th April 2012, when we resume our preparation for the upcoming Lenister Championship clash with Westmeath on May 19th in Mullingar. The Fe 21 Development squads will play games on Wednesday 18th and 25th May against Senior selections.
Rounds of the County Leagues are starting and I as Senior Hurling Manager encourage the participation of the players that formed our National League Panel in these games as long as they are fit.
This two week break from last Sundays final league game gives the management team time to review.
Finally, I would like to thank all those supporters who have travelled to our away and home games in the league, yes it was "Frustrating" last Sunday!!!!!!!!

Diarmuid De Bhailis
Bainisteoir Foirne Aointroim 2012
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 03, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
From county site. Fair play to Jerry

ENIOR HURLING, INTER COUNTY

The 2012 National Division !B Hurling League has now concluded for Aontroim Senior Hurling and here is a brief report.

Games
Aontroim 3.20    Loughgeil  3.17         S.H.Challenge        22nd January 2012
Aontroim 1.21    Ulster       0.12         S.H.Challenge        11th  February 2012
Aontroim 3.18    Wexford   2.15         NHL 2012               26th February 2012
Aontroim 0.12    Clare        0.20        NHL 2012(a)           11th March 2012
Aontroim 1.17    Offlay       1.22        NHL 2012 (a)          18th March 2012
Aontroim 2.18    Laois        2.16        NHL 2012 (a)          25th March 2012
Aontroim 0.17    Limerick   3.22         NHL 2012               1st April 2012

Consoladation

                    " It would be a huge disappointment for Antrim if they were to drop down a division, especially if it was caused by their County Champions doing so well, but it's a real possibility" Irish Independent 25/2/2012 (Martin Breheny)

Well we have achieved and consoladated our position in Division 1B for the 2013 Hurling League.This will afford the development of Hurling in Aontroim quality games and also focus the "change of attitude to the league" mindset,  as the league can no longer be ignored with the tougher and more accomplished opposition that sit within Division 1B. Our league form was about getting a competitive, improved, better balanced side with plenty of ambition (no excuses for the absence of the Loughgeil players) together and this remains the task going forward for the management team.

Minor Hurling

Sambo and his management team and players are to be credited for their performances to-date. Support from the Clubs and Divisions are needed to help "Identify an evening" that can be set aside for the collective training of the County Minor Hurling Panel and Development panel.

FE21 Hurling

As Senior Hurling Manager with a link to this group, up to last Saturday March 21st, I have to express my disappointment. Approximately 68 players between the age of 19 and under 21 were identified by a process of involving the clubs in late October 2011 to nominate players for consideration. John MacIntosh and Danny Simpson were appointed to oversee the workings of this "Development Concept". The squad were and are placed in UUJ training venue with notification of training/games placed on the Aontroim web-site. The debacle of last years F21 Inter County game v Dublin in the championship are well documented. I as senior hurling manager has at this stage got to question the "Attitude" of the players to this initiative to develope the Intercounty Fe 21s. Aontroim needs to see a "Change of Attitude" and "Support" to this initiative.


GOING FORWARD

The Senior Inter County Hurling/ Fe 21 Hurling programs take a time out until Tuesday 17th April 2012, when we resume our preparation for the upcoming Lenister Championship clash with Westmeath on May 19th in Mullingar. The Fe 21 Development squads will play games on Wednesday 18th and 25th May against Senior selections.
Rounds of the County Leagues are starting and I as Senior Hurling Manager encourage the participation of the players that formed our National League Panel in these games as long as they are fit.
This two week break from last Sundays final league game gives the management team time to review.
Finally, I would like to thank all those supporters who have travelled to our away and home games in the league, yes it was "Frustrating" last Sunday!!!!!!!!

Diarmuid De Bhailis
Bainisteoir Foirne Aointroim 2012

I cant believe that first result!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Agh no skull, unlike who I heard it from, I don't trust you.

Well you've no reason not to trust me so its maybe a convenience  in this case. I know you 100% wouldnt post it regardless of how trustworthy the source was anyway...........and that's my point. Truth has nothing to do with why you posted that. The best interests of Antrim hurling wasn't it either.

It was from a very impartial source btw so I'm just a conduit. If you want me to give you the scoop so that you can post the truth up here let me know. It may soften your opinion a bit so I dunno. If I was you I wouldn't do it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 04, 2012, 12:00:58 AM
SIE your telling of stories from within the Antrim camp is shocking stuff. What purpose does it serve? Do you think it will help mend any issues within the camp, if there are any, now that they are up on the web? The drink has taken its toll on you im afraid over the last couple of weeks!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2012, 02:57:12 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 04, 2012, 12:00:58 AM
SIE your telling of stories from within the Antrim camp is shocking stuff. What purpose does it serve? Do you think it will help mend any issues within the camp, if there are any, now that they are up on the web? The drink has taken its toll on you im afraid over the last couple of weeks!!!!
ah no fairhead, my drinking was done on the 18th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2012, 06:16:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 03, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
From county site. Fair play to Jerry

ENIOR HURLING, INTER COUNTY

The 2012 National Division !B Hurling League has now concluded for Aontroim Senior Hurling and here is a brief report.

Games
Aontroim 3.20    Loughgeil  3.17         S.H.Challenge        22nd January 2012
Aontroim 1.21    Ulster       0.12         S.H.Challenge        11th  February 2012
Aontroim 3.18    Wexford   2.15         NHL 2012               26th February 2012
Aontroim 0.12    Clare        0.20        NHL 2012(a)           11th March 2012
Aontroim 1.17    Offlay       1.22        NHL 2012 (a)          18th March 2012
Aontroim 2.18    Laois        2.16        NHL 2012 (a)          25th March 2012
Aontroim 0.17    Limerick   3.22         NHL 2012               1st April 2012

Consoladation

                    " It would be a huge disappointment for Antrim if they were to drop down a division, especially if it was caused by their County Champions doing so well, but it's a real possibility" Irish Independent 25/2/2012 (Martin Breheny)

Well we have achieved and consoladated our position in Division 1B for the 2013 Hurling League.This will afford the development of Hurling in Aontroim quality games and also focus the "change of attitude to the league" mindset,  as the league can no longer be ignored with the tougher and more accomplished opposition that sit within Division 1B. Our league form was about getting a competitive, improved, better balanced side with plenty of ambition (no excuses for the absence of the Loughgeil players) together and this remains the task going forward for the management team.

Minor Hurling

Sambo and his management team and players are to be credited for their performances to-date. Support from the Clubs and Divisions are needed to help "Identify an evening" that can be set aside for the collective training of the County Minor Hurling Panel and Development panel.

FE21 Hurling

As Senior Hurling Manager with a link to this group, up to last Saturday March 21st, I have to express my disappointment. Approximately 68 players between the age of 19 and under 21 were identified by a process of involving the clubs in late October 2011 to nominate players for consideration. John MacIntosh and Danny Simpson were appointed to oversee the workings of this "Development Concept". The squad were and are placed in UUJ training venue with notification of training/games placed on the Aontroim web-site. The debacle of last years F21 Inter County game v Dublin in the championship are well documented. I as senior hurling manager has at this stage got to question the "Attitude" of the players to this initiative to develope the Intercounty Fe 21s. Aontroim needs to see a "Change of Attitude" and "Support" to this initiative.


GOING FORWARD

The Senior Inter County Hurling/ Fe 21 Hurling programs take a time out until Tuesday 17th April 2012, when we resume our preparation for the upcoming Lenister Championship clash with Westmeath on May 19th in Mullingar. The Fe 21 Development squads will play games on Wednesday 18th and 25th May against Senior selections.
Rounds of the County Leagues are starting and I as Senior Hurling Manager encourage the participation of the players that formed our National League Panel in these games as long as they are fit.
This two week break from last Sundays final league game gives the management team time to review.
Finally, I would like to thank all those supporters who have travelled to our away and home games in the league, yes it was "Frustrating" last Sunday!!!!!!!!

Diarmuid De Bhailis
Bainisteoir Foirne Aointroim 2012

I cant believe that first result!!!!
I know, didn't Antrim  do well considering they finished the last twenty minutes playing our snr reserves.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2012, 06:16:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 03, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
From county site. Fair play to Jerry

ENIOR HURLING, INTER COUNTY

The 2012 National Division !B Hurling League has now concluded for Aontroim Senior Hurling and here is a brief report.

Games
Aontroim 3.20    Loughgeil  3.17         S.H.Challenge        22nd January 2012
Aontroim 1.21    Ulster       0.12         S.H.Challenge        11th  February 2012
Aontroim 3.18    Wexford   2.15         NHL 2012               26th February 2012
Aontroim 0.12    Clare        0.20        NHL 2012(a)           11th March 2012
Aontroim 1.17    Offlay       1.22        NHL 2012 (a)          18th March 2012
Aontroim 2.18    Laois        2.16        NHL 2012 (a)          25th March 2012
Aontroim 0.17    Limerick   3.22         NHL 2012               1st April 2012

Consoladation

                    " It would be a huge disappointment for Antrim if they were to drop down a division, especially if it was caused by their County Champions doing so well, but it's a real possibility" Irish Independent 25/2/2012 (Martin Breheny)

Well we have achieved and consoladated our position in Division 1B for the 2013 Hurling League.This will afford the development of Hurling in Aontroim quality games and also focus the "change of attitude to the league" mindset,  as the league can no longer be ignored with the tougher and more accomplished opposition that sit within Division 1B. Our league form was about getting a competitive, improved, better balanced side with plenty of ambition (no excuses for the absence of the Loughgeil players) together and this remains the task going forward for the management team.

Minor Hurling

Sambo and his management team and players are to be credited for their performances to-date. Support from the Clubs and Divisions are needed to help "Identify an evening" that can be set aside for the collective training of the County Minor Hurling Panel and Development panel.

FE21 Hurling

As Senior Hurling Manager with a link to this group, up to last Saturday March 21st, I have to express my disappointment. Approximately 68 players between the age of 19 and under 21 were identified by a process of involving the clubs in late October 2011 to nominate players for consideration. John MacIntosh and Danny Simpson were appointed to oversee the workings of this "Development Concept". The squad were and are placed in UUJ training venue with notification of training/games placed on the Aontroim web-site. The debacle of last years F21 Inter County game v Dublin in the championship are well documented. I as senior hurling manager has at this stage got to question the "Attitude" of the players to this initiative to develope the Intercounty Fe 21s. Aontroim needs to see a "Change of Attitude" and "Support" to this initiative.


GOING FORWARD

The Senior Inter County Hurling/ Fe 21 Hurling programs take a time out until Tuesday 17th April 2012, when we resume our preparation for the upcoming Lenister Championship clash with Westmeath on May 19th in Mullingar. The Fe 21 Development squads will play games on Wednesday 18th and 25th May against Senior selections.
Rounds of the County Leagues are starting and I as Senior Hurling Manager encourage the participation of the players that formed our National League Panel in these games as long as they are fit.
This two week break from last Sundays final league game gives the management team time to review.
Finally, I would like to thank all those supporters who have travelled to our away and home games in the league, yes it was "Frustrating" last Sunday!!!!!!!!

Diarmuid De Bhailis
Bainisteoir Foirne Aointroim 2012

I cant believe that first result!!!!
I know, didn't Antrim  do well considering they finished the last twenty minutes playing our snr reserves.   ;)

Are they the ones that should be on the County team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2012, 09:41:54 AM
Must be since they are now that good MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 04, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
Yep boys,sorry!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Student Dissertation on April 04, 2012, 10:39:15 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 11:00:05 AM
Just a random thought - if the county squad are takin a 2week break after the league and going back to their clubs - why did they bother havin the Loughiel boys back for just the last game?

I mean asking them to train for the week prior for onegame, and join an established panel - not really fair on both?!

I think it would have been better to finish the league off with the league panel - then join up again as a whole in 2 weeks - surely this would have been better for both the existing panel and the Loughiel contingent?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2012, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 11:00:05 AM
Just a random thought - if the county squad are takin a 2week break after the league and going back to their clubs - why did they bother havin the Loughiel boys back for just the last game?

I mean asking them to train for the week prior for onegame, and join an established panel - not really fair on both?!

I think it would have been better to finish the league off with the league panel - then join up again as a whole in 2 weeks - surely this would have been better for both the existing panel and the Loughiel contingent?

I suppose there was a chance of a league final and he wanted them integrated sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 11:49:31 AM
I think the performance & result proves he would have been better sticking with the group he had.

What about your club scene Minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 04, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
DD. and his team mates did  not let anybody down on Sunday,quite the reverse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 12:24:57 PM
Thats not what I am getting at one bit!
Jesus you are still looking for a reason to be offended - its not the world vs Loughiel.
I actually made the point in my initial post that it might have suited the Shamrocks themselves better to re-join after the 2weeks as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 04, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
DD. and his team mates did  not let anybody down on Sunday,quite the reverse.

This is now beyond a joke to be honest.

The post above is looking for an fight. No one here has said a bad word about the players on the pitch at the weekend. In fact everone said dd was the best player for antrim on the pitch.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 04, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
I think we need to get a shrink on board.

Common symptoms amongst a high percentage of the sham men. Seems like some kind of post tramatic stress reaction which has came to the fore now they are All Ireland Club Champions (for the second time)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 04, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
DD. and his team mates did  not let anybody down on Sunday,quite the reverse.

I was at the game, DD was the only Loughgiel player that came out with any plaudits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 01:26:20 PM
How dare you MR2!

Take that back - and swear that not just DD but all Loughiel players are the greatest ever in the county and the finest upstanding people known to man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 04, 2012, 01:29:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 04, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
DD. and his team mates did  not let anybody down on Sunday,quite the reverse.

I was at the game, DD was the only Loughgiel player that came out with any plaudits.
In defence of the other 'Loughgiel 3' what chance did they have..sure no-one would pass them the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2012, 01:40:02 PM
 I don't think any of you will be threatening the comedy roadshow just yet.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 01:49:03 PM
I thought DD was his usual brilliant, not sure I have seen him play a bad game and I thought Mc Closkey was decent when on the ball. Shane worked his socks off and took some good scores, mc fall was decent too when he came on. KS was lost in full forward although he wasnt on his own. Players werent playing to a system and were all at sea at times. Backline for me bar Graffin were poor enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on April 04, 2012, 01:52:34 PM

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=165415

I think Sunday's result said otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
On another note, i notice the discussion regarding the div 2 teams this year but having spoke to a st galls player at teh weekend i think they will be playing catch up with glenariff and rossa. He tells me, (and i do believe him but maybe MR  can confirm ?), that they had their first hurling training on sat afternoon which was taken by the players themselves as they are still without a manager. He said that a few are training with their footballers but havent held a stick until saturday. What is the problem with securing a manager for st galls Milltown as teh player I spoke to was at a loss. Such waste of potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 01:55:23 PM
I dont see anything with that article HD ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 04, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
I think with St Galls, external managers cannot be lured with the prospect of Unlimited parking and free soup! While within the club any possible candidate is/are a bit long in the tooth for the headaches involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
Shocking upsurge in new posters joining the board in the last few weeks  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:06:45 PM
I would like to hear from MR2 if Galls have a hurling manager yet.

They are leaving it late as the first round of games start next wednesday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 02:08:54 PM
Thats the usual line from Milltown! MR2 talks them down but I think St Galls will be just fine!
Rossa have had a poor pre-season, although they did beat a depleated Dunloy they failed to win a single game in the Ulster League.
Lamh Dearg I havent heard much from - dont think they played Ulster league while Randalstown & Carey seem to have been performing well in it.

Its a great league with many twists and turns but Glenarrife will be the ones not to get side-tracked and I fancy them to secure promotion with a few games to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:14:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 02:08:54 PM
Thats the usual line from Milltown! MR2 talks them down but I think St Galls will be just fine!
Rossa have had a poor pre-season, although they did beat a depleated Dunloy they failed to win a single game in the Ulster League.
Lamh Dearg I havent heard much from - dont think they played Ulster league while Randalstown & Carey seem to have been performing well in it.

Its a great league with many twists and turns but Glenarrife will be the ones not to get side-tracked and I fancy them to secure promotion with a few games to spare.

I think that division 2 will provided quite a lot of good games. We have lost a few players as all clubs do bit a lot of the teams are evenly matched. I'm looking forward to the league this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
Shocking upsurge in new posters joining the board in the last few weeks  ;)

Or posters using different names!
Still a "newbie" myself ofcourse!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:06:45 PM
I would like to hear from MR2 if Galls have a hurling manager yet.

They are leaving it late as the first round of games start next wednesday night

No manager as yet, getting close to first game next wed night against Rossa FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:06:45 PM
I would like to hear from MR2 if Galls have a hurling manager yet.

They are leaving it late as the first round of games start next wednesday night

No manager as yet, getting close to first game next wed night against Rossa FFS

Whats happening there MR2 I know we have you in our second game. After a good year last year I would have though you would have had a number of people intrested

( Hopefully some other posters may learn from this sensible discussion)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
Thats why I maintain Glenarrife will get promoted with a bit to spare.

Galls and Rossa are able to lift their game and perform at their best levels for short spells (Championship) but Oisins can maintain a higher level throughout the season.

They are able to focus on promotion from this league and not get "side-tracked"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
I would also tend to agree, simply for the fact that neither Rossa nor St Galls would be well known for travelling in strength.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
I would also tend to agree, simply for the fact that neither Rossa nor St Galls would be well known for travelling in strength.

Mid week that is  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 02:56:43 PM
Not too far to travel for your first game MR2 - looking forward to it!
I wonder what the bookies might think!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 03:26:37 PM
My money is on Rossa for the league.
Glenariff wouldnt be known as good travellers either from memory but they wouldnt get much games away from home during the week ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 04, 2012, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:06:45 PM
I would like to hear from MR2 if Galls have a hurling manager yet.

They are leaving it late as the first round of games start next wednesday night

No manager as yet, getting close to first game next wed night against Rossa FFS

Do the chairman, secretary and treasurer not step in then MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2012, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 02:06:45 PM
I would like to hear from MR2 if Galls have a hurling manager yet.

They are leaving it late as the first round of games start next wednesday night

No manager as yet, getting close to first game next wed night against Rossa FFS

Do the chairman, secretary and treasurer not step in then MR2?

Has happened before, usually some mug steps in ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
Anyone in mind MR?

Doesnt give any manager much chance at this stage. Would all your hurlers be involved playing football and therefore have been able to maintain a level of fitness although that doesnt take away from the need for stickwork ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
Anyone in mind MR?

Doesnt give any manager much chance at this stage. Would all your hurlers be involved playing football and therefore have been able to maintain a level of fitness although that doesnt take away from the need for stickwork ?

They are fit, a lot of young lads and with us who have been hurling with school, county minor and college, two senior county players also, so not all bad. Only having big Aidso on the county football panel we might be able to have McLean back playing for us and Burkey will be available to play more league games than before. With the county team usually training on nights the hurlers play it was stopping us from bringing strong teams up the county.

The panel this year could be a lot stronger and with more experience. All the McGourty's could be playing also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 04, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Just heard the result from the Foresters Cup, Garron Tower(St Killian's) beat St Marys by 2 points today in Ballymena, an unreal result for the Tower, first Foresters since 1975. Sambos son Christy net ed to steal it near the end, hes a great talent. The Dall must have had at least 6 on the team, Larne 4 . Just proves guts and application wins every time. Those lads will all line out tonight against Shamrocks in the First round of the Darragh Cup, fair play to the they've taken quite a few hammerings at the hands of St Mary's in the last few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
Sounds more like it MR2!
With more players available this year I expect a big league showing from galls - div1 hurling & football would be nice for the club?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 04, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 04, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Just heard the result from the Foresters Cup, Garron Tower(St Killian's) beat St Marys by 2 points today in Ballymena, an unreal result for the Tower, first Foresters since 1975. Sambos son Christy net ed to steal it near the end, hes a great talent. The Dall must have had at least 6 on the team, Larne 4 . Just proves guts and application wins every time. Those lads will all line out tonight against Shamrocks in the First round of the Darragh Cup, fair play to the they've taken quite a few hammerings at the hands of St Mary's in the last few years.

yes i was at that game today, played on a splendid ballymena surface.  That was a brilliant game, needed it after sundays horror show.  Thought GT fantastic.  That is the past 2 years i have watched finals between these two teams, last year round this time of year their Y10 team beat st marys.  McNaughton was alot better that day.  he is a talent.  Most of the same crowd were there today. Best match was however the one in october when st marys won.  it was fantastic.  School hurling super from what i can see.  Just hope St Louis make a comeback soon. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2012, 07:27:24 PM
There is supposed to be a young fella plays on that Garron Tower Forresters team from Glenarm, that is as good as has been in Antrim at that age for a good few years. Think he is McNeill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 04, 2012, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 04, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Just heard the result from the Foresters Cup, Garron Tower(St Killian's) beat St Marys by 2 points today in Ballymena, an unreal result for the Tower, first Foresters since 1975. Sambos son Christy net ed to steal it near the end, hes a great talent. The Dall must have had at least 6 on the team, Larne 4 . Just proves guts and application wins every time. Those lads will all line out tonight against Shamrocks in the First round of the Darragh Cup, fair play to the they've taken quite a few hammerings at the hands of St Mary's in the last few years.

reckon you are well off with the date, early 90's they won a foresters.  beating cross and passion.  but a great win none the less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 04, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 04, 2012, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 04, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Just heard the result from the Foresters Cup, Garron Tower(St Killian's) beat St Marys by 2 points today in Ballymena, an unreal result for the Tower, first Foresters since 1975. Sambos son Christy net ed to steal it near the end, hes a great talent. The Dall must have had at least 6 on the team, Larne 4 . Just proves guts and application wins every time. Those lads will all line out tonight against Shamrocks in the First round of the Darragh Cup, fair play to the they've taken quite a few hammerings at the hands of St Mary's in the last few years.

reckon you are well off with the date, early 90's they won a foresters.  beating cross and passion.  but a great win none the less.

Someone on here said 17 years ago. I think that was the team Johnny tosh would have been on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 04, 2012, 10:19:44 PM
oisinog are you condifent of the oisins chances in gaining promotion.  all information helpful, going to put £40 on with a friend from work that they get promoted. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
What age group is forresters? Is it 2nd year or 5th year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 04, 2012, 10:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
What age group is forresters? Is it 2nd year or 5th year?

5th. St Marys would have a fair number of the Rossa U16s and St Johns Minors. Young Johnston was also playing for St Marys along with a number of the players who represented them when they won the O'Keefe Cup according to the Irish News today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 10:50:21 PM
First year of combination is it not too? Maybe it could be good for the hurling there...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 04, 2012, 11:19:31 PM
hoping the combination / amalgamation of st pats and st louis could do the same trick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 05, 2012, 07:43:18 AM
Are we not getting carried away here? Good win and all that but let's not pressure on the kids cos that's what they are and let's not make them believe they are something special just yet. Think a lot of problem with young promising stars these days is that they think they are better than they actually are and because of that don't listen to advice from others, think they know it all. Then come senior all these promising young stars very rarely shine and it is the ones that didn't have the limelight when they were young that actually make an impact at senior. I have seen it at so many clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 05, 2012, 08:52:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 04, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
Anyone in mind MR?

Doesnt give any manager much chance at this stage. Would all your hurlers be involved playing football and therefore have been able to maintain a level of fitness although that doesnt take away from the need for stickwork ?

They are fit, a lot of young lads and with us who have been hurling with school, county minor and college, two senior county players also, so not all bad. Only having big Aidso on the county football panel we might be able to have McLean back playing for us and Burkey will be available to play more league games than before. With the county team usually training on nights the hurlers play it was stopping us from bringing strong teams up the county.

The panel this year could be a lot stronger and with more experience. All the McGourty's could be playing also


That might put off potential managers  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2012, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 05, 2012, 07:43:18 AM
Are we not getting carried away here? Good win and all that but let's not pressure on the kids cos that's what they are and let's not make them believe they are something special just yet. Think a lot of problem with young promising stars these days is that they think they are better than they actually are and because of that don't listen to advice from others, think they know it all. Then come senior all these promising young stars very rarely shine and it is the ones that didn't have the limelight when they were young that actually make an impact at senior. I have seen it at so many clubs.

Well boys like McManus and Graffin came through that school and were starring at that age.

It's rare schools like that win those competitions so it's good to see.

No-one is saying an All Ireland will be won out of this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 05, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 04, 2012, 10:19:44 PM
oisinog are you condifent of the oisins chances in gaining promotion.  all information helpful, going to put £40 on with a friend from work that they get promoted.

I think we will go up but if it was me I would not put £40 on it.

There are a lot of good teams in the second division I think the league will be closer than a lot of people think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 05, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 04, 2012, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 04, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Just heard the result from the Foresters Cup, Garron Tower(St Killian's) beat St Marys by 2 points today in Ballymena, an unreal result for the Tower, first Foresters since 1975. Sambos son Christy net ed to steal it near the end, hes a great talent. The Dall must have had at least 6 on the team, Larne 4 . Just proves guts and application wins every time. Those lads will all line out tonight against Shamrocks in the First round of the Darragh Cup, fair play to the they've taken quite a few hammerings at the hands of St Mary's in the last few years.

reckon you are well off with the date, early 90's they won a foresters.  beating cross and passion.  but a great win none the less.

Correct Saffron, JamesH, is well off with his dates, btw, this is St Killians first Foresters win.

Garron Tower won it in the 90's beating C&P, team mainly backboned by Cushendall & Cushendun players if i remember correctly

was at the game yesterday and it was a very good game of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 05, 2012, 10:41:52 AM
I could have been well off with the dates, but hey still a great win all the same, i dint agree that too much pressure is put on these kids too soon, only 2/3 will star at senior level but sure that's the same with any young team, young Burke who hurled chb yesterday had a stormer last night again in the Darragh cup, against the Shamrock who apart from young Carey in full back were afoul the score was 4-18. 0-2 Shamrocks didn't score for 55 Min's. Sambos son Christy is hurling daft and with the work he puts in I'd fancy him to become a senior his stick work is better than Shane's. There's also a kid from Larne on the team Cory beggs who is only 13/14 who could be a great prospect, and the young lad from Glenarm is Hugh Pat Magill is a great kid gutsy tenacious but stick work not great but that could improve, lots of others i didn't mention that could do it but that's the interesting bit for us coaches now to help them achieve their goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 05, 2012, 07:08:56 PM
Saffron youngsters delight 'Sambo'
05 April 2012


Antrim minor hurling manager Terence McNaughtonTerence McNaughton believes Antrim hurling has a very bright future.

'Sambo' is in charge of the minor team that has just completed a Leinster MHL and Ulster MHL double and he enthuses in today's Irish News:

"We've looked at around 57 players and we've won all our matches in Ulster and won all our matches in Leinster.

"We used a team in each league and I'm trying to train next year's minor team as well. I've got 16-, 17-year-olds with me and they'll be county minors next year.

"But it's a credit to all the players who were able to be successful in two leagues.

"We'll sit down and pick a panel and go forward with it and have next year's team ready. But I'm hopeful about the future after watching the players in both the Ulster and Leinster leagues."

Article above from hoganstand



good to see a bit of interest being stirred up.  Great to see our participation in Leinster & Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 05, 2012, 09:24:35 PM
It's Leinster minus the big teams, but at least Antrim are making an effort at this grade unlike ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 06, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
My deepest sympathies to Paul Gormley's family and to the Rossa Club he loved so much, may he rest in peace on this Good Friday, Lord Jesus pray for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 07, 2012, 10:22:41 AM
Since there's games brought forward to Sunday here's my first go at the predictions game!

Cushendall v Portaferry - cushendall
Loughiel v dunloy - loughiel
Ballycastle v St johns - ballycastle

Glenarriffe v Carey - Glenarriffe
Lamh dearg v gortnamona - Lamh dearg
Rossa v St galls - draw

I won't get to ballycastle for the johnnies game but I won't miss the Rossa v galls opener.
Would obviously love to be at the loughiel v dunloy game - are u reffing it mr2!!

Lads let's us all know about any games ye were at - great to have the season back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 07, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 07, 2012, 10:22:41 AM
Since there's games brought forward to Sunday here's my first go at the predictions game!

Cushendall v Portaferry - cushendall
Loughiel v dunloy - loughiel
Ballycastle v St johns - ballycastle

Glenarriffe v Carey - Glenarriffe
Lamh dearg v gortnamona - Lamh dearg
Rossa v St galls - draw

I won't get to ballycastle for the johnnies game but I won't miss the Rossa v galls opener.
Would obviously love to be at the loughiel v dunloy game - are u reffing it mr2!!

Lads let's us all know about any games ye were at - great to have the season back.

On the Antrim Gaa web site  Ballycastle v St Johns  is on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2012, 07:04:09 PM
Loughgiel v Dunloy is suppose to be off.  not 100%, but heard that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 07, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2012, 07:04:09 PM
Loughgiel v Dunloy is suppose to be off.  not 100%, but heard that.
It's definitely on.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 07, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Dunloy missing a good few so not much of a spectacle perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 07, 2012, 08:26:48 PM
Excuses already?     ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
Excuses from a neutral?? Just thinking maybe not worththe money in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
Excuses from a neutral?? Just thinking maybe not worththe money in.
No harm meant, it was supposed to be humorous.  Btw,  It's always worth the money.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
I don't think Dunloy's that bad,could be tight enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
Excuses from a neutral?? Just thinking maybe not worththe money in.
No harm meant, it was supposed to be humorous.  Btw,  It's always worth the money.  :)
Aye, will probably go anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 05:27:41 PM
Shamrocks 2.14. Dunloy 0.13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
On that showing Dunloy not far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
On that showing Dunloy not far away
like I've been saying all along.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
 7 points away. Referee out of his depth,did neither team any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 05:44:38 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
7 points away. Referee out of his depth,did neither team any favours.

Aye seven points consider the training Loughgiel have done. Not bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
To be fair MR2, Dunloy have been training for a wee while themselves. We haven't trained since the All-Ireland. But anyway, we're happy enough with that result today as we knew they'd be up for it.  Terrible conditions at the end of the match as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
To be fair MR2, Dunloy have been training for a wee while themselves. We haven't trained since the All-Ireland. But anyway, we're happy enough with that result today as we knew they'd be up for it.  Terrible conditions at the end of the match as well.

Training for the start of the league and training for an All Ireland final SIE would be 2 totally different things, that's just my amateur opinion of course ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 06:30:32 PM
And before I forget, fair play to Dunloy for the guard of honour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 05:56:04 PM
To be fair MR2, Dunloy have been training for a wee while themselves. We haven't trained since the All-Ireland. But anyway, we're happy enough with that result today as we knew they'd be up for it.  Terrible conditions at the end of the match as well.

Training for the start of the league and training for an All Ireland final SIE would be 2 totally different things, that's just my amateur opinion of course ;)
Dunloy showed plenty of grit but losing shorty to injury half way through the 2nd half let L'giel pull away. Short of options on the bench meant they were on the back foot for the rest of the game. Kevin Molloy gave Watson very little. Allistair Elliott's young fella came on in the 2nd half, looks to have potential but still young yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 07:09:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2012, 05:44:38 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
7 points away. Referee out of his depth,did neither team any favours.

Aye seven points consider the training Loughgiel have done. Not bad

dunloy side of things he instead

Eamon hasson gave louhgeil everything. disgusted by him. how much did louhgeil score from play. first goal was a play on with a shcimozzel up the Field after shorty got struck off the ball that's why he had to come off. a real cowardly pull. DD should have walked for assaulting an umpire. a dunloy man who volunteered who is just a after a cruciate operation. I thought that was straight red stuff he drive him  in to side netting. dunloy where in front but loughgeil fitness told in the end. a more accurate reflection would have been 1 of 2 win. well done Eamon hasson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
Excuses from a neutral?? Just thinking maybe not worththe money in.
No harm meant, it was supposed to be humorous.  Btw,  It's always worth the money.  :)
Aye, will probably go anyway.

6 players, normal starters down. happy enough, would liked to have seen the result with some neutral officiating
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
Loughgiel would have liked to see some decent refereeing as well.The man hadn't a clue, completely out of his depth.
Still a nice wee run out for the All Ireland champions who looked a bit out of touch,still no surprise there after the last few weeks they were due a bad game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
Loughgiel would have liked to see some decent refereeing as well.The man hadn't a clue, completely out of his depth.
Still a nice wee run out for the All Ireland champions who looked a bit out of touch,still no surprise there after the last few weeks they were due a bad game.

tell me what a he did for dunloy. the man ruined a good match in loughgeils favour. without  his help my feeling is louhgeil would have snicked it by a point due to Superior fitness. Can someone here please answer me is assaulting an umpire a str8 red or not. as for taking shorty out he didn't see it so fair enough but turning your back on the incident when it flared and playing on till a goal is scored is a joke with a free for all happening up the field. if hes doesn't have the conviction to give calls against the home side then he shouldn't be doing this. well done to loughgeil anyway. only two people came out of the match with no credit. the man who was supposed to be refereeing and the player that struck shorty. we will leave DD out of it as this is the first time Ive seen this from him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

are  you deluded or what. he gave dunloy a point and he was attacked. don't come on here and try and defend the indefensible by telling blatant untruths. skinny got a front chest charge and noting was done. at least he didn't hit the ball away. did JC get a knee on the back i wish that's all shorty got ( i suppose you going to bring his character into question to).  your letting yourself down here by trying to justify some dirty play and a dodgy ref by telling lies WISE UP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Why is anyone suprised by this, he has made a career of exactly that type of cowardly slap, dont think there is anything to be shocked by there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 08:14:47 PM
The assessment I gave is much more evenly balanced than your own. Coming on here claiming Dunloy were all sweetness and light. Both teams got away with things they shouldn't have. I think you're the one that needs to grow up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

:o Jesus SIE you dont half let your self down at times. DD very lucky not to get red and 3months at best but agreed its not like him to lose control like that. As for Ding dont even go there, his previous is well known, i thought Nelson had got him to wise up but as they say about leopards........................Loughgiel deserved winners though, the stronger team but not by as much as we thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 08:18:39 PM
Ffs, unbelievable. Take your beating and move on.

I'm off for a celebratory drink and to watch the Masters. Happy Easter all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 08:45:32 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2012, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

:o Jesus SIE you dont half let your self down at times. DD very lucky not to get red and 3months at best but agreed its not like him to lose control like that. As for Ding dont even go there, his previous is well known, i thought Nelson had got him to wise up but as they say about leopards........................Loughgiel deserved winners though, the stronger team but not by as much as we thought.

no doubt he is one horrible child,but theres a man there to protect players from these animals, if he is not acting then tools like him get worse

SIE the caveman is coming out in you now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
north antrim bound............yez were bate,get a grip and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
north antrim bound............yez were bate,get a grip and move on.

do you mean beat (bate ? ) yeah i know i was there. next time you see eamon buy him a pint
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 08, 2012, 10:18:25 PM
Eamon?????.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 09, 2012, 12:43:38 AM
is chris o'connell released from the county panel, dd no 1 and mctoal no2.  suppose jerry would like his sub keeper to be getting some regular hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 09, 2012, 05:56:51 AM
Loads of hard men behind user names on this bull shit slabber forum, who's got the biggest make believe dick!!    Dunloy is dying, so sad!!  Move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
I was at the Loughgiel V Dunloy match, there were a few poor tackles from both teams but in fairness to Dunloy at least there was a ball in the general area when any of their bad tackles happened. These things happen but no excuse for what happened to Shorty. The DD incident was a bit of handbags but I was surprised to see him lose his cool. Thought Loughgiel were flattered by the final score, Hassan gave them plenty of handy frees and play should have been blown up before their first goal and before any of the Shamrock supporters start crying this is an honest assessment from a neutral. As far as our game with Portaferry goes, an easy win without getting out of second gear, Portaferry have gone back badly and on this showing they'll be lucky to avoid the drop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 09, 2012, 08:19:08 AM
FFS lads, the first match of the season and ure on the referee's case! Catch a Fkn grip will use. If he had have blown every free you'd be bitchin, out of his depth (What the Fck would use know), as usual this is always the problem with Antrim Hurling, let the game go players then take advantage of this and the consequences then prevail! proves the old point again, you cant let a game go in Antrim because they don't know how to play it! Plain and simple, take up a whistle and do your fckn selves, coming on here as usual and lambasting a lad out 3-5 times a week from his family that is more committed to the game than most of use ball-less bllks on here! Looks like Elliot and Duffy where right to pass on the game, use can all get on their cases no doubt as the season progresses!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:44:56 AM
Maninblackandgreen were you at the game? Should referees be defended regardless of their performance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:45:50 AM
And just to point out, I watched 3 matches yesterday and the referee was only poor in one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 09, 2012, 09:27:04 AM
Should players JJ? Did hasson slap anybody? Push an Umpire etc etc, call anybody an Fn this or that? and Yes I was there, didn't have time to watch 3 though, left the Tardice at home, and didn't feel like giving FQ the extra cash for his holidays! So in essence that allows you and others to basically rip him apart, when most of you couldn't even pass a rules test, let alone implement them in game :P Get a life FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 09, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
Aye leave EH alone, like a few players has probably had better games but still one of the top referee's in Antrim/Ulster, may have gotten caught up in Loughgiels big celebration!

Have to bite at the remark Dunloy is dying, it's exactly that type of comment that has the rest of North Antrim labelling you as bad winners, success alone is not enough!  Indeed from the performance yesterday I'd say dunloy have the potential to go very close, alot more improvement in them.

Thought it was a hard, manly game with Kevin McQuillan asking plenty of questions of JC and Eddie McCloskey the driving force for Loughgiel.  Didn't see the slap on shorty but was unfortunate as it would have been a boost to have brought Paddy Richmond into the forward line with shorty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 09, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: maxpower on April 09, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
Aye leave EH alone, like a few players has probably had better games but still one of the top referee's in Antrim/Ulster, may have gotten caught up in Loughgiels big celebration!

Have to bite at the remark Dunloy is dying, it's exactly that type of comment that has the rest of North Antrim labelling you as bad winners, success alone is not enough!  Indeed from the performance yesterday I'd say dunloy have the potential to go very close, alot more improvement in them.

Thought it was a hard, manly game with Kevin McQuillan asking plenty of questions of JC and Eddie McCloskey the driving force for Loughgiel.  Didn't see the slap on shorty but was unfortunate as it would have been a boost to have brought Paddy Richmond into the forward line with shorty.
I've been saying this for some time now max. I don't believe Dunloy are anywhere near as poor as others have been saying on here. On their day they're capable of beating anyone in the county. The only thing I'd say is that I don't think they have the depth in squad as they would have had a few years back. This could be their downfall this year if injuries mount up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 09, 2012, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2012, 01:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Why is anyone suprised by this, he has made a career of exactly that type of cowardly slap, dont think there is anything to be shocked by there.
Some hard man. Had a wee run in with him yeara ago and he's no different now. Gives it bigguns til he has to put himself on the line and no teammates to to take over. Phoney hard man.

;D You're a bitter man Tony
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 09, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
Man in Black and Green........I agree with you that referees get far too much abuse. As you can see from posts on yesterday's match,both sides thought they were ill done to.The man wasn't perfect but then he's only human.I wouldn't take on refereeing a game for love or money,and I suspect neither would any of "the referees on the ditch".
Many years ago I  talked to an retired ref. who had officiated at county level,I think he refereed an All-Ireland football semi-final in the Fifties.He said he got more abuse from nutters at low level games in the bogs of his own county than he did in Croke Park among star players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 02:46:12 PM
Maninblackandgreen you basically just proved my point. Hasson didn't slap a player or attack an umpire, but in the game a Dunloy player was struck with a hurl off the ball and another player attacked the umpire. Hasson was the ref and nothing was done about either incident. Players should be scrutinized for their actions, BY THE REFEREE!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 09, 2012, 03:59:09 PM
So JJ what your saying is the Referee is responsible for the behaviour of players, managers, selectors water carriers, stick holders, and c**k heads in the crowd, in a voluntary role and christ all for 35p a mile! And then if someone wants to have a go at him, he gets screwed by all, like Ray Matthews, sure fill ure boots!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 09, 2012, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 09, 2012, 03:59:09 PM
So JJ what your saying is the Referee is responsible for the behaviour of players, managers, selectors water carriers, stick holders, and c**k heads in the crowd, in a voluntary role and christ all for 35p a mile! And then if someone wants to have a go at him, he gets screwed by all, like Ray Matthews, sure fill ure boots!
Agreed MIBAG, thankless task. too many people are abdicating responsibility for their own behaviour. Its hard enough getting coaches in clubs but referees????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Maninblackandgreen you have picked me up wrong, no one is responsible for the actions of the players however when a player does something wrong the referee should do something about it. This didn't happen yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 09, 2012, 04:55:46 PM
jesus jones........anybody but the shamrocks eh!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Rough up an umpire, whats next? Throw the linesman over the fence if he makes a call you don't agree with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 09, 2012, 08:31:26 PM
There's no team perfect and when the blood is up things can happen.I could give you a list of disgraceful conduct from most teams in Antrim.Yesterday was no worse,maybe not as bad as some dirt I could remind you of down through the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 09, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: maxpower on April 09, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
Aye leave EH alone, like a few players has probably had better games but still one of the top referee's in Antrim/Ulster, may have gotten caught up in Loughgiels big celebration!

Have to bite at the remark Dunloy is dying, it's exactly that type of comment that has the rest of North Antrim labelling you as bad winners, success alone is not enough!  Indeed from the performance yesterday I'd say dunloy have the potential to go very close, alot more improvement in them.

Thought it was a hard, manly game with Kevin McQuillan asking plenty of questions of JC and Eddie McCloskey the driving force for Loughgiel.  Didn't see the slap on shorty but was unfortunate as it would have been a boost to have brought Paddy Richmond into the forward line with shorty.
I've been saying this for some time now max. I don't believe Dunloy are anywhere near as poor as others have been saying on here. On their day they're capable of beating anyone in the county. The only thing I'd say is that I don't think they have the depth in squad as they would have had a few years back. This could be their downfall this year if injuries mount up.

I would agree with this. In my view Dunloy are a team who have potential to do something yet. Ok that didn't happen last year but there's enough hurling about them that they can challenge the "big boys". I'd still have them as top 3 in the county with 4th a good bit behind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 09, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Rough up an umpire, whats next? Throw the linesman over the fence if he makes a call you don't agree with?

I dont know about throwing the linesman over the fence, but i remember herbie getting clocked for his efforts to report a off the ball strike not so long ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 09, 2012, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 09, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Rough up an umpire, whats next? Throw the linesman over the fence if he makes a call you don't agree with?
Wasn't there something went down in cdall last year??  Enough said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 09, 2012, 09:50:47 PM
sleeping giant...........There was indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on April 09, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
Look at the facts: Loughgiel as a team haven't got together since Paddy's day, apart from in the club, macs or the pound, where there have been real marathon sessions going on. Dunloy have been training since January and would have been really up for the game to try and beat the AI champs. Dunloy hit the ground running and took the game to Loughgiel.  Loughgiel took most of the 1st half to get into the game but when they did, Dunloy had no answer to them. 
As for the slaps. Shorty, if you try and dish it out, you really should expect to get it back. Umpires, give respect, get respect (don't cheat and show everyone what your true character really is) and don't expect much sympathy for the cruciate operation.  As for suggesting that PG has to hide behind anyone, you really don't know him.
NAG1, you've made a career out of trying to cheat LG wherever you could in whatever committee you've been in.
Tony Baloney, and North Antrim hound it's really hard to hide your jealously towards
Loughgiel.  In fact NAH I checked your posts out, a big majority aimed at LG bashing. Go and support your own team, if their worth supporting.

On another note, what about the talk of Antrim club hurling is so poor for the last couple of years, that's why LG are winning championships. Doesn't say much for the rest of Ireland then ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 09, 2012, 11:32:22 PM
Wino. At last common sense has prevailed. Every word you have said is true.
One other thing  JEALOUSY

Loughgiel ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS AGAIN

Until other clubs get their own ship in order and get over what Loughgiel have done, and were capable of doing, then I see no change. Deserved champions and they and their club are worthy Antrim, Ulster and All Ireland Champions.

It up to everyone else to get upto their standard. Only one thing this Loughgiel team want. MORE SUCCESS AND MORE TROPHIES

Good luck to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 10, 2012, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: wino on April 09, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
Look at the facts: Loughgiel as a team haven't got together since Paddy's day, apart from in the club, macs or the pound, where there have been real marathon sessions going on. Dunloy have been training since January and would have been really up for the game to try and beat the AI champs. Dunloy hit the ground running and took the game to Loughgiel.  Loughgiel took most of the 1st half to get into the game but when they did, Dunloy had no answer to them. 
As for the slaps. Shorty, if you try and dish it out, you really should expect to get it back. Umpires, give respect, get respect (don't cheat and show everyone what your true character really is) and don't expect much sympathy for the cruciate operation.  As for suggesting that PG has to hide behind anyone, you really don't know him.
NAG1, you've made a career out of trying to cheat LG wherever you could in whatever committee you've been in.
Tony Baloney, and North Antrim hound it's really hard to hide your jealously towards
Loughgiel.  In fact NAH I checked your posts out, a big majority aimed at LG bashing. Go and support your own team, if their worth supporting.

On another note, what about the talk of Antrim club hurling is so poor for the last couple of years, that's why LG are winning championships. Doesn't say much for the rest of Ireland then ;D

where to start with dribble here goes

if you where not so selective on quoting my post you would have observed i stated the loughgeil would have won the game anyway. as such we will never know as the decisions where quite baffling in your favour( there have been neutrals on here confirming this). as for dunloy training and loughgeil not fair enough. so the winter training program for the all ireland campaign is completely negated but some drinking(what a joke) some of your best players have trained with the county and got a hard game last week. let me adjust the last bit for you when PG as you called him pulled a real dirty stroke off the ball(don't try and drag shorty down to his level because PG credentials are well known in antrim regardless of your blinkered analysis) it took one of our best players out of the game.

the umpire was asked to do a job and he agreed. lets say it was wide I would suggest this has happened before and the events that followed never happened before since i remember.stop deflecting to the umpire when he was assaulted in full view of the ref and nothing was done about it. the fact you haven't mentioned the goal keepers actions says more about yourself than my post on it.

as for jealousy for loughgeil you will have take me at my word nothing could be further from the truth. well done to them on there recent success but ill never be jealous. don't care if you win ten all irelands and we go down to division 4. I'm dunloy through and through. I do support my own team and Will defend them on here when you guys are doing a bit a bashing or your own. as for the are they worth supporting yes they are because in my eyes they have carried themselves with a bit more class than others( your first post ranting would back this up) I would like to think if a dunloy player in the future pulls of a dirty stroke like i seen on sunday then i will divert my BASHING towards my own team. Instead of deflecting to the assaulted player,umpire and trawling through someones previous post. what a pathetic first post. this is a public forum and bar intervention from the moderator i will be airing my views on here, weather a makes you approval of not is of no particular intrest to me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 10, 2012, 12:55:26 AM
north ant hound

ffs wise up an grow up...the umpire cheated. End of and forget about previous. Ask your sub P Richmond. Blatant cheating,

As for supporting your team you are 100% right and do so forever

It was a tough game for both teams. Both teams and managers enjoyed it. Probably one of the few league games that will be competitive this year. This is the type of games that both clubs want

Gt over yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 10, 2012, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: wino on April 09, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
Look at the facts: Loughgiel as a team haven't got together since Paddy's day, apart from in the club, macs or the pound, where there have been real marathon sessions going on. Dunloy have been training since January and would have been really up for the game to try and beat the AI champs. Dunloy hit the ground running and took the game to Loughgiel.  Loughgiel took most of the 1st half to get into the game but when they did, Dunloy had no answer to them. 
As for the slaps. Shorty, if you try and dish it out, you really should expect to get it back. Umpires, give respect, get respect (don't cheat and show everyone what your true character really is) and don't expect much sympathy for the cruciate operation.  As for suggesting that PG has to hide behind anyone, you really don't know him.
NAG1, you've made a career out of trying to cheat LG wherever you could in whatever committee you've been in.
Tony Baloney, and North Antrim hound it's really hard to hide your jealously towards
Loughgiel.  In fact NAH I checked your posts out, a big majority aimed at LG bashing. Go and support your own team, if their worth supporting.

On another note, what about the talk of Antrim club hurling is so poor for the last couple of years, that's why LG are winning championships. Doesn't say much for the rest of Ireland then ;D

well done to loughgeil, wasn't at the match but general concensus is they deserved it so congrates all round (you havnt been reading all my post then)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 10, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
i read your last post

what type of hurling do you want. Was in casement when antrim played limerick. It was abysmal and pathetic. Yesterdays game was full of passion, skill, endeavour and a credit to antrim hurling and worthy of any county in ireland.

Enough said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 10, 2012, 09:14:24 AM
Lads this is unreal, never seen as much BS about one game! FFS its the 1st game of the season, wouldn't half know its been a long winter with very little to do, all the fckn balloons suddenly appear out of the woodwork. Never seen as much about about a referee, Jesus what about the other 30 lads on the pitch! CC knew it was a mile wide, and then allegedly his da decided he was going to hassle the Ref after the game making veiled threats in his changing room, the bllks should never have got near the place. One of these days its going to really kick off, and somebody is going to get hurt really bad, what next hiring security for Referee's. Always go to the soft targets "Referee's", focus on the assholes that are lifting their big expenses claims every month on the backs of the volunteers that pay week in week out in our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 10, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Lonely we want the type of hurling where you don't get away with striking off the ball or assaulting an umpire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 10, 2012, 10:29:09 AM
Show me a county in Ireland that this doesn't happen throughout a season, but FFS you seem to want to leave the total blame and responsibility of all that went on with Eamon Hasson, CC has since admitted that he lied so I don't see you on here lambasting or having a go at a man that should not only know better as a player/county player/and referee I believe also, be neutral and bring all the assholes into your arguements! Some might say he deserved what he got (I don't advocate this) but come on, MIBAG is right you automatically have a pop at the easy target, a man that helps antrim by doing games because we don't have enough Referee's again because of people like you! Look at the county, the time and investment made to improve Referee's. the lack of commitment from the referee's committee that also has a responsibility to all the clubs that pay hard earned money to the county board to deliver our games to the best of their ability, focus on the core issues and maybe just maybe we will get what we all deserve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Is this still rolling on! My predictions and maybe I can help throughout the season ;)

Div1 Cushendal and Championship
Div2 Rossa
Div3 Cloughmills
Div4 Davitts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 10, 2012, 10:40:37 AM
MIBAG not a bit early with those predictions, thought you favoured the shams a wee birdie told me ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 10:43:53 AM
Ah A Chara, never believe everything you hear, they seek me here they seek me there! As a referee you should always give an honest hour ;) Then again show me an honest man and I'll show you a fool! 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 10, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Lonely we want the type of hurling where you don't get away with striking off the ball or assaulting an umpire.
JJ, you are far from being a neutral or indeed an impartial observer as your previous posts on here and elsewhere will testify. You are one of many ABS trolls that pollute the internet. Hurling is a man's game. If a team comes out full of it and dishing it out they have to be able to take it back. Dunloy tried well for 40 minutes but got their collective arses handed to them on a plate. Somewhat like how Cushendall faired in the last league game of last season. That was a disgrace by the way. Where were your pontifications about striking off the ball after that game? Or your players trying to lure supporters on to the field for a fight? You'd do well to concentrate on the state of affairs within your own club, from what we've been hearing it's far from good, and get them sorted before spewing forth with your biased observations behind a keyboard. Any fool can do that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 11:05:49 AM
Have to agree Seamroga IE, I am the only nuetral on this website ;D, and will defend the Ref's if justified, and I am the 1st to admit we have some poor lads out there at present who think they know the rule book and can apply common sense, however I leave that fault squarely at the door of the County and its Referee's committee who have accountability to the clubs as previously stated by Lonely1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 10, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
hasn't it been a boring winter!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 10, 2012, 11:13:35 AM
Quote from: wino on April 09, 2012, 11:18:10 PM
Look at the facts: Loughgiel as a team haven't got together since Paddy's day, apart from in the club, macs or the pound, where there have been real marathon sessions going on. Dunloy have been training since January and would have been really up for the game to try and beat the AI champs. Dunloy hit the ground running and took the game to Loughgiel.  Loughgiel took most of the 1st half to get into the game but when they did, Dunloy had no answer to them. 
As for the slaps. Shorty, if you try and dish it out, you really should expect to get it back. Umpires, give respect, get respect (don't cheat and show everyone what your true character really is) and don't expect much sympathy for the cruciate operation.  As for suggesting that PG has to hide behind anyone, you really don't know him.
NAG1, you've made a career out of trying to cheat LG wherever you could in whatever committee you've been in.
Tony Baloney, and North Antrim hound it's really hard to hide your jealously towards
Loughgiel.  In fact NAH I checked your posts out, a big majority aimed at LG bashing. Go and support your own team, if their worth supporting.

On another note, what about the talk of Antrim club hurling is so poor for the last couple of years, that's why LG are winning championships. Doesn't say much for the rest of Ireland then ;D

Getting bored with this now, dont know who you think I am but your well off the mark with that comment.

As for the game this will be my last post on it as I was there and was able to see what happened.

The umpire gave a decision right or wrong, he wasnt there to be assualted by the county captain. The referee saw exactly what happened and chose not to act, poor decision but it is early in the season. I would imagine any of the Dunloy posters would be able to confirm that EH was not threatened in any way and that would not be the case.

LG why cant you win and enjoy your winning with some class, sadly lacking and then you wonder why people object to you, take off the red tinted glasses and have a look from the outside in for a change and see what everyone else is seeing, everyone else cant be wrong.

PS I am sure that MIBAG could clarify what was said to EH after the game but sure it does for the telling anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 11:26:57 AM
NAG1 waiting to hear but knowing EH i'm sure he would have ignored whatever took place, he's a good lad and can more than look after himself if the situation demanded it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 10, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
hasn't it been a boring winter!! ;D
No, its been a very eventful winter from where I've been standing. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 10, 2012, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 11:26:57 AM
NAG1 waiting to hear but knowing EH i'm sure he would have ignored whatever took place, he's a good lad and can more than look after himself if the situation demanded it.

MIBAG, yeah not saying that he isnt a good ref, he is the pick of them at the moment just that he had a bad game at the weekend. Im sure he will let you know what happened after the game and you can clear that up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 10, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
If it warrants it NAG1 I will, although disagree with you on the "Pick of them", think Elliot has come into his own this year, and is Antrim's/Ulsters best Referee with Eamon running a close second and yes the lads are entitled to have the odd bad day, Jesus with what they have to endure these days I'm surprised they can referee a game at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 10, 2012, 03:02:28 PM
Sie I was also at last years league game and both teams were as bad as each other in the Slapping, if you really want to go over old ground, although none of our supporters struck Oran Scullion when he was hanging over the fence during one of the rows, yours did fact. And as far as supporters are concerned we all have our half wits, is the father of your corner forward not serving 2 years for extreme verbal abuse to Duffy and its not that long ago one of yours struck Herbie after the feis final. We have one deservedly  serving life , if we are coming on this forum and defending the undefendable the site will be a waste of time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Indeed we do James, as you've rightly pointed out, we all have them. At least you can admit to it unlike others on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2012, 05:54:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Indeed we do James, as you've rightly pointed out, we all have them. At least you can admit to it unlike others on here.

We don't, fooking animals up north
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 10, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2012, 05:54:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Indeed we do James, as you've rightly pointed out, we all have them. At least you can admit to it unlike others on here.

We don't, fooking animals up north

LOL good one MR2....a family (bar one) springs to mind  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 11, 2012, 07:58:58 AM
Anybody any thoughts on tonights games?. Think we've had enough of this dribble. Have st galls got a manager in place yet?. Hard for players to make decisions while on the pitch and if that's the case I will edge for rossa. Glenariff to win handy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 11, 2012, 08:06:03 AM
Well I think Rossa will win in a canter, think Wing and Duffy have them playing as a unit and all the need now is the confidence with a few wins, and who knows come championship. Lamhs should account for gorts handy enough, although it might end up tasty! Agree glenariff for a handy touch, and sticking my neck out, the Johnnies to steal a win in the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 11, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
I think we will win but I dont think it will be handy as carry always push us close.

I will be keeping an eye on the Galls result as we have them on sunday in belfast and Its always hard to get a win there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2012, 10:10:42 AM
I don't see anything more than a couple of points either way between galls and Rossa - it's always a game that the results as been a coin toss. Some Talking down galls but look at their championship results - talking up Rossa but barring dunloy they've had a terrible ulster league.
Maybe mr2 and hardstation might shed some light?
Promises to be tight - galls will have full side available while Rossa at home so i will sit on the fence with draw.

Other fixtures straightforward enough I called them earlier in the week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on April 11, 2012, 11:02:21 AM
Well done to the shams winning on st pats.
Respect and praise where it's due.

I have read this forum was years and it has been normally well balanced and sensible stuff. However:

This crying on a public forum about county players and managers is terrible, boys posting this should be ashamed, and it's no one's business outside of the panel.

Slating ref's is a dangerous game, we can't play are games without them weather their good or bad.

Of course there is going to be some bitterness and jealously towards loughgiel, their fans have to take it.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 11:52:00 AM
Ballycastle v St Johns
The Town to win this sayin as they beat the Johnnies in Armoy a few weeks ago even if both had'nt full teams and they have home advantage as well. Main thing I see in St Johns favour might be Hippy missing. Think this is big game for the Town. Winning means they're where they should be losin they could struggel to stay up.

Glenarriffe v Carey
Glenarriffe for this with home advantage and they had better standard last year. I think Glenarriffe will look for Div1 next year with Carey being mid table Div 2

Lamh dearg v Gortnamona
Lamh dearg on last year

Rossa v St Galls
St Galls on championship form last year. Result maybe give idea of whose goin up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
Home wins, although might fancy Johnnies against B'Castle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 11, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
We've what will ultimately become a relegation battle with our neighbours, Ballycran tonight.

They've been going better than us in the Ulster league and should probably take the points.

Some very poor hurlers being given senior jerseys in our place at the minute. We'll need to rebuild over the next few years and get the attitude towards training and commitment of the youngsters coming through the underage ranks seriously changed as we've lads with a bit of ability but too bloody lazy to push themselves any harder.

The Ards clubs aren't any big shakes at the minute so we'll be looking to take points off our neighbours as much as possible with maybe the Johnnies and Ballycastle at home another few points.

None of the Ards clubs will take any points off Loughgiel, Cushendall or Dunloy this year. Portaferry are probably the pick and they're struggling with commitment issues as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 11, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 11, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
We've what will ultimately become a relegation battle with our neighbours, Ballycran tonight.

They've been going better than us in the Ulster league and should probably take the points.

Some very poor hurlers being given senior jerseys in our place at the minute. We'll need to rebuild over the next few years and get the attitude towards training and commitment of the youngsters coming through the underage ranks seriously changed as we've lads with a bit of ability but too bloody lazy to push themselves any harder.

The Ards clubs aren't any big shakes at the minute so we'll be looking to take points off our neighbours as much as possible with maybe the Johnnies and Ballycastle at home another few points.

None of the Ards clubs will take any points off Loughgiel, Cushendall or Dunloy this year. Portaferry are probably the pick and they're struggling with commitment issues as well.

I know its early in the season and a journey to Cushendall for 1pm on Easter Sunday is not ideal (madness fixing that fixture), I thought Portaferry were really poor on Sunday. We were not great ourselves and won by 15 points. Even Braniff was well off with free's. We played Ballygalget in Ulster League in February and we probably stole a win so I would have thought Ballygalget were better than Portaferry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
But you brought it up again anyway.   ::)

You must've very little to do with your time.  For the record, I also stated that both sides were slapping in that game. Have you not got over that one yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 11, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
But you brought it up again anyway.   ::)

You must've very little to do with your time.  For the record, I also stated that both sides were slapping in that game. Have you not got over that one yet?

Yeah we are all bored with this stuff now, onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
St galls 11 up 10 mins left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
St galls 11 up 10 mins left
do st galls have many of the championship team on jc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
St galls 5-9 rossa 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 11, 2012, 08:25:36 PM
Glenariffe 3-16 Carey 1-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 11, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 11, 2012, 08:25:36 PM
Glenariffe 3-16 Carey 1-8

A dour match....lots of wides. Glenariffe really slow off the blocks... need to up their game for St. Gall's.

Were St. Gall's excellent or Rossa abysmal or bit of both?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Missing big Anton & joe Mcd, ga ga? Maybe One or 2 more SIE.  Rossa started well but st galls hit a couple of goals and went on from there. St galls defence marshalled rossa well , rossas only goal coming from a penalty. Some nice scores from both teams but galls were able to grab goals when needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2012, 09:23:48 PM
Scoreline actually 1-12 to 5-8 but otherwise I agree jeepers creepers - just back from the game and the scoreline makes no secret of the match. Goals win games - galls got them Rossa didn't.
Karl Stewart scored a screamer the others were soft.
St Galla defended dare I say it like footballers and Rossa were clueless up front.
On this basis St galls will be hard to work with but the football sadly might catch them out - if it's left to hurling they will give Glenarriffe all they want.
As for Rossa - if u concede goals and can't score them then the maths is simple!
Thought both mc gourts were really excellent and Karl Stewart with number13 for St galls.
For Rossa bell & Hamill did their bit but they had little else.
Well done galls would like to see them give hurling a real go.
Mibag - Owen Elliot did a good job!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
I hear Ballycastle vs St John's finished a draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 11, 2012, 09:55:49 PM
Have to agree with all that's been said especially why rossa left their corner back on st galls no 13(mackers) as he was being roasted. How good could st galls be if that is their performance with no training behind them as I know rossa have been training hard. Who was that management team for st galls? 2 young enough fells by looks of it. Rossa couldn't handle the intensity of st galls work rate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 11, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Oh and I thought OE had a decent enough game, let it go which is great but still imconsistent with some decisions but all in all good game. Did I see aiden hamill doing stats for rossa? how the mighty have fallen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 11, 2012, 10:09:02 PM
Enough experienced men on the sideline to see full back line was the problem for rossa. If aiden has influence thought he would have seen that

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 11, 2012, 10:17:42 PM
Is that an outside management team or are they st galls men?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
Hardstation the Rossa men around me were sceptical of your new manager - took camogie team? He didn't make obvious make changes in the full back line (numbers 3 & 4) I would also be concerned with the lack of ideas u had up front ur boys were never convincing. But I don't like looking at the sideline - galls players wanted this more. They work so hard and in mcgourty's and Karl Stewart have smashing hurling ability.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2012, 10:32:54 PM
Look, we were very lucky to score the goals that won the match, Lucky breaks need to be taken and we were lucky to have the right men to pick them up.

We still haven't trained, so I don't think we will :o

A credit to both teams though in serving up a gutsy game. Plenty of flair on both sides and hard tackles throughout without any bitchiness. We are happy to pick up two points considering players missing and an away match out of the way. Glenariffe scored more than us so they are the team to beat.

Rossa have great potential and will take points off other teams, as noted there was some areas they didn't try and change, very difficult to fix things if you are missing players and the sub bench won't improve the team then it's about juggling players.

Aidso was allowed for nearly 45 minutes to win any puckout down his wing. I thought that was telling and the fullback line were in sixes and sevens, a young team Rossa and it is bound to kick in after a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Very impartial mr2 I think unlike to play down ur side - I think promotion should be a real target for galls.
Also Gallagher was first marked by a small guy as Rossa put kettle on Karl Stewart. Karl for me is unmarkable so kettle went on Gallagher but as u say this had little effect. So I agree maybe Rossa are juggling players to plug gaps - they won't get promoted if they need to do this.
Next up for me is the galls v oisins game - should be great and telling. Winners become odds on to go to division1.
Also I think a draw was a great result for the johnnies tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
St galls 5-9 rossa 1-11
I see they're giving the score as 5-08 to 1-12.

I marked the scores down and had the same as you!

I marked the scores also as that?? Owen may have refereed well, but clearly can't count!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 12, 2012, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2012, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
St galls 5-9 rossa 1-11
I see they're giving the score as 5-08 to 1-12.

I marked the scores down and had the same as you!

I marked the scores also as that?? Owen may have refereed well, but clearly can't count!!!

We got the points off the Cran's last night, how I don't know as we didn't do a whole pile of hurling over the hour. The Crans aided with a stiff breeze had us all over the place, but hit some terrible wides, six in a row I counted with another few bouncing harmlessly wide and a great save by Graham, kept us in contention. Our first foray up the field got us a goal and not long after we got another. I think the score then was 2-1 to 7 points. I think we went in at half time a point up 2-4 to 0-9.
The second half was a bit better in terms of open hurling but scores were at a premium. Ballycran panicked a bit IMO and whilst three or four points down for most of the half went for goals a bit early. If they taken the easy free and pointed it they'd probably have done better.

I think we've Ballycastle at home this Sunday. If we can move them around a bit, we may get scores as this is another must win game for us, but we'd need to improve in first touch, striking and sharpness of thought as well as feet to do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
But you brought it up again anyway.   ::)

You must've very little to do with your time.  For the record, I also stated that both sides were slapping in that game. Have you not got over that one yet?

What I brung up was the different views you seem to have dependant on whose slapping  ;)  we're likley all the same. Not too many see wrong from there own.

Ballycaste missing Hippy Matty Pinky KB McShane Stephen McGarry G Laverty last night. Didn't get to it and got told we still have last years problems in midfield and half forward line. But if we get some of them back we might be OK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 12, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
But you brought it up again anyway.   ::)

You must've very little to do with your time.  For the record, I also stated that both sides were slapping in that game. Have you not got over that one yet?

What I brung up was the different views you seem to have dependant on whose slapping  ;)  we're likley all the same. Not too many see wrong from there own.

Ballycaste missing Hippy Matty Pinky KB McShane Stephen McGarry G Laverty last night. Didn't get to it and got told we still have last years problems in midfield and half forward line. But if we get some of them back we might be OK

Did Ciaran Clarke and Shane Jennings play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on April 12, 2012, 10:00:32 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 12, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 11, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
Well, there were the two dirty slaps off the ball on ding which went unpunished, but fair play to him he got his own back. Then there was the knee in the back on Jimmy Campbell. Then there was the full on chest charge on winker. There were several more decisions he missed on both sides. As whacker said, he was out of depth.

As for the umpire it appeared to me that he laid hands on dd first. And knowing the individual Like I do, he ain't no shrinking violet.

Not that i want to start this again cuz i was'nt at the game but that's a different opionon from the one you had in September.  ???
But you brought it up again anyway.   ::)

You must've very little to do with your time.  For the record, I also stated that both sides were slapping in that game. Have you not got over that one yet?

What I brung up was the different views you seem to have dependant on whose slapping  ;)  we're likley all the same. Not too many see wrong from there own.

Ballycaste missing Hippy Matty Pinky KB McShane Stephen McGarry G Laverty last night. Didn't get to it and got told we still have last years problems in midfield and half forward line. But if we get some of them back we might be OK

Did Ciaran Clarke and Shane Jennings play?

What was the final score? Are maybin cossie still ticking over for the town?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
Score was 1-10 each

Clarke played dont know how he done. Jennings came on as a late sub. Cossie still there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 12, 2012, 11:42:02 AM
Hopefully the town can hold onto them for the year, they have been missing a couple of quality forwards for the past ten years or so. Would be an interesting proposition to see them at full strength.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 12, 2012, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
Score was 1-10 each

Clarke played dont know how he done. Jennings came on as a late sub. Cossie still there.

Pinky is getting on in years and injuries have never been kind to him. I think he played against us in the reserves up there last year and wasn't too fit then. Cossie is no spring chicken either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 01:43:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 12, 2012, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
Score was 1-10 each

Clarke played dont know how he done. Jennings came on as a late sub. Cossie still there.

Pinky is getting on in years and injuries have never been kind to him. I think he played against us in the reserves up there last year and wasn't too fit then. Cossie is no spring chicken either.

True Pinky and Cossie no spring chickens but them and Clarke and Jennings with some games and 2 other young boys McAfee and McLister be a handful for a lot of defenses. Plus Chris Boyle is dependable and dose'nt have to many bad games and Stephen McGarry if he could get fit. If the Town could get everybody fit they could compete with most teams. in Antrim league anyway.

1 more thing have'nt heard lately but there was talk of Peter Dallat being back too, that would give us a pretty decent set of forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 12, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
BlackandAmber

Think that's more to be sad about, that you have that quality of player within your club and still haven't had a result of note in the past number of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 12, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Was at the town johnnies game, both would need to lift their game.  However town missing quite a few.  Reckon they are only team at present that could realistically challenge the big 3.  Thought oisins would have done it about 4 years ago but they have slipped.  Still unsure of dunloy potential, underage they have been well below power for good few years.  Will try and attend galls and oisins game, already looks like league decider, more importantly could be a belter.  Needs good ref, but they're likely to get Elliot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 12, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
Jesus reading this website since Sunday you'd think we had no good refs in the county, you obviously have an issue with Owen saffronog?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 12, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Mr2 may confirm this but I think the game is off on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 12, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
btdtgtt, Im sure owen appreciates the compliment ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 12, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 12, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Mr2 may confirm this but I think the game is off on Sunday.

It was scheduled for Sunday week I thought, not this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 12, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 12, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 12, 2012, 05:11:28 PM
Mr2 may confirm this but I think the game is off on Sunday.

It was scheduled for Sunday week I thought, not this weekend.

Christ I cant read It is fixed for the 22nd I am a dipstick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 12, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 12, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
Jesus reading this website since Sunday you'd think we had no good refs in the county, you obviously have an issue with Owen saffronog?
His clubmate??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: saffronog on April 12, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Was at the town johnnies game, both would need to lift their game.  However town missing quite a few.  Reckon they are only team at present that could realistically challenge the big 3.  Thought oisins would have done it about 4 years ago but they have slipped.  Still unsure of dunloy potential, underage they have been well below power for good few years.  Will try and attend galls and oisins game, already looks like league decider, more importantly could be a belter.  Needs good ref, but they're likely to get Elliot.

Elliot refereed the game well and seemed to enjoy it. Can't see everything, but as i always say, the referee doesn't lose you the match. I'll give off during the game during tight calls but would be the first to shake the refs hand after a game. I'm glad we have the top referees taking the div 2 games.

As for our game being a league decider, behave  ???. A lot of teams will take points off other clubs during the year, should be a competitive league with 3/4 teams pushing for league honours at the end. I hope we have a good league in prep for Championship, maybe go for the league the following year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 12, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
I dont mind elliot though sometime he can be a bit of a twat when you ask him a question during the game.

He tends to let a bit go and tries to keep the game quick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on April 12, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
St Galls looked very sharp for a team that weren't training. They should be favourites for that league on that performance. long way to go but would fancy them for Glenarriffe game whenever it is. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 12, 2012, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 12, 2012, 02:29:19 PM
BlackandAmber

Think that's more to be sad about, that you have that quality of player within your club and still haven't had a result of note in the past number of years.

First of I got that wrong about Clarke. He did'nt play.

I know what you mean NAG1 like but can't agree. I mean Pinky has been class for years but no one can do it himself. But if you look at them boys I mentioned like Pinky and Cossie has been there for maybe 15 years. Chris Boyle a good while too but who else? Hippy and Neal maybe 4 or 5 years senior. All them other boys is young fellas and some boys might be good enough for senior but you have to give them a year or two for to get consistant. Steve McGarry is maybe 25 or so but has he palyed 2 years for us without injury or fitness problems. Even Dallat was only startin senior before he went away. Played maybe a year. Clarke and Jennings never played a year before soccer took them. Not cryin like but holdin some of them young boys is'nt easy. But we have a whole lot of good young boys now and maybe in a year or two they might produce.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2012, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: ruairi on April 12, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
St Galls looked very sharp for a team that weren't training. They should be favourites for that league on that performance. long way to go but would fancy them for Glenarriffe game whenever it is.
St. Galls are a good team with good players when they get them all together but watching them last night, there was nobody new in their team. What I'm saying is that they have all played for a number of years and have still failed to get promotion, even though they should have been good enough. There must be a reason for this. The obvious one is football. Going up to Rossa in the first game in the league and before the football has started is well and good but it's the results in the aul yucky away matches a couple of months down the line (approaching the business end of the football) that will count. Can they get the same commitment? As I said last night, it would be very interesting to see them go hell for leather at the hurling.

Exactly Hardstation, we will only be a football club, which is unfortunate, I think if we tried for 2/3 years we could compete properly.

Though none of the Belfast teams seem to travel well, remember Glenarm Hardstation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2012, 10:50:11 PM
We need to be in div 1 and have a steady campaign there to progress at Championship, but only one team goes up, unlike the football, but 'it's the clubs that vote this in' crap that annoys me. Two up two down!!!!

This yeah hopefully we will only have Aidso playing county football, I'm hearing we might get some more ex county footballers back playing hurling this year also. CJ and Burkey already played the other night so ya never know!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2012, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2012, 10:57:11 PM
Any word on big Andy? I would imagine the hope is to get Burkey playing out the field a bit (midfield maybe) and Andy at full back.

Burkey played well at FB the other night and played there last season, would be great to have all players but it's hard on the dual lads, we still haven't trained, and nothing fixed. No official manager either!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 13, 2012, 01:39:34 AM
An embarassment of riches mr2? I really was impressed by galls the other night if football stops u it will be the denial of promotion before oisins or Rossa! Altho a work pal tells me ur claim Of not training is a bit false - "we play 7s and train on Saturday it's great" is a direct quote. Maybe others could learn.  Would love to see Karl and mcgourty's in loughiel and cushendall regularly.

I hear the lambs were good against gortnamona could be interesting v Rossa next game - but I will pass to watch galls v oisins.

Will be interesting to see how lambs go tho - potential there. As for Rossa - hardstation I think ur dream team management is being exposed? Slack v galls and cosmetics don't last on
Pitch?

I think the lambs might have a say on this league but at the end if the day it's galls v Oisin and the winner will depend on how much galls football is involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 13, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Thats what McCullough & duffy think - Tongue in cheek from me HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2012, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Thats what McCullough & duffy think - Tongue in cheek from me HS.

Garrett Duffy?

I hope he sees more as a manager than he does when doing the line for Owen Elliott, but then again his club mate was managing the other team!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2012, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Thats what McCullough & duffy think - Tongue in cheek from me HS.

Garrett Duffy?

I hope he sees more as a manager than he does when doing the line for Owen Elliott, but then again his club mate was managing the other team!!

Gavin not Garrett.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2012, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Heard the minors lost the Ulster Minor League Final today. That's not great......

Anyone know anything?
Just guessing I'd say it's more likely an U17 team. The proper minor team won Leinster league beating Carlow, Laois, Westmeath etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 12:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2012, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
Thats what McCullough & duffy think - Tongue in cheek from me HS.

Garrett Duffy?

I hope he sees more as a manager than he does when doing the line for Owen Elliott, but then again his club mate was managing the other team!!

Gavin not Garrett.

If there's money in it, both Duffs will be there ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2012, 01:53:27 AM
I imagine Duffy (Gavin that is) would be doing well getting money off Rossa hardstation?!
And his mate McCullough may hope it's not performance related!
I joke - but I was talking to a few of your boys less than impressed by the new set up - hopefully it gets sorted out. On the point tho what us happening with Rossa house and Rossa park etc? Big few years for the not so premier club? I hope you guys do things right on and off field.

On a more positive note are galls going to give the hurling league it's proper dues? I think they are 100% committed no matter what u say mr2! The question is where're this will be maintained once the big ball kicks in.

Big win for sarsfields too - if Randalstown are struggling maybe another Belfast side might stay up?
And for a little mix - what about the men from up the hill? I believe them to be the most under-rated side in the league?

Division1 seems so irrelevant to me (obvious bias I know) but also because I suspect it us irrelevant to dall & shamrocks alike - volunteer cup or nothing. Understandable.





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 15, 2012, 07:48:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Heard the minors lost the Ulster Minor League Final today. That's not great......

Anyone know anything?
I think this team is selected from the "posibles" section of the squad as opposed the "probables" who played in the Leinster. Much in it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.

EP or is it ET? Elliot to the best of my knowledge was never offered the game, take that up with Uncle T, and Duffy I believe was not available due to illness, so as per usual rumor mongering still alive and kicking! If we hadn't treated Ray the way we did he could have taken it, Hi MR2 did you not get a shout? Keep it real EP!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 15, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.

El Plato 3rd level education was at last a benefit to the two lads then ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 11:17:37 AM
Some shite posted on this thread lately, anyone would think it's being done on purpose.

ManInBlackandGreen were you not well also for the Dunloy game? I'll not be refereeing this year, very busy doing other things.

As Last Ma has said, they main players played in the Leinster league and did rightly. It's great that the second string were able to gel and play games in the Ulster league, they will all be minor again next year no doubt and will benefit from this. Forward thinking for a change.

Again If a clubman managing his own club is getting a wage he needs smacked!! By all means he shouldn't be out of money in terms of phoning players, and travel (should he live more than 5 miles away). Our club hasn't a washer nevermind money to pay coaches. I think any payments that do go on in clubs are done by 'money men' within the club who aren't afraid to put up some cash. Prefer it to be given to the club and spent on more needed things like sticks, balls, coaching gear, maintenance of the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 11:52:10 AM
Na MR2 still receiving treatment for that sphincter problem that dogs me around this time of year, must check my txt messages again though 2 b sure 2 b sure ;) Big ball today, whey hey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.

EP or is it ET? Elliot to the best of my knowledge was never offered the game, take that up with Uncle T, and Duffy I believe was not available due to illness, so as per usual rumor mongering still alive and kicking! If we hadn't treated Ray the way we did he could have taken it, Hi MR2 did you not get a shout? Keep it real EP!
I am keeping it 'REAL'  ManInBlackandGreen. Seems their balls have really went south following the RM incident at Rasharkin. For me anyway, the right man got the call and did a decent job, all things considered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.

EP or is it ET? Elliot to the best of my knowledge was never offered the game, take that up with Uncle T, and Duffy I believe was not available due to illness, so as per usual rumor mongering still alive and kicking! If we hadn't treated Ray the way we did he could have taken it, Hi MR2 did you not get a shout? Keep it real EP!
I am keeping it 'REAL'  ManInBlackandGreen. Seems their balls have really went south following the RM incident at Rasharkin. For me anyway, the right man got the call and did a decent job, all things considered.

Hit a nerve A Chara :'( And it was in Ballymena not rasharkin, I see 3rd level education didn't reach some of us ;) Im glad EH was your right man, he's a great lad as are the other two, they all work hard as volunteers, like the rest of us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 01:11:19 PM
Oh Yes, get the info right before you come and stir the shit, seems to be a lot of this lately, I always deal in facts and defend my colleagues when it is warranted! No one ever said EH did a bad job, and if you can work this forum right take a look at previous posts, instead of venting your own sad and senseless agenda,

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. "Plato", maybe you should have chosen a different avatar that reflects closer to your ability ;D

Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil. :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 14, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
I was at the Loughgiel  v Dunloy game myself last Sunday. EH done a fine job despite being up against it from the outset.  I have subsequently been informed that Elliott and Duffy both pulled out of this game.  Says a lot if you ask me, when our alleged top hurling refs pull out of what was always going to be a controversial game.

EP or is it ET? Elliot to the best of my knowledge was never offered the game, take that up with Uncle T, and Duffy I believe was not available due to illness, so as per usual rumor mongering still alive and kicking! If we hadn't treated Ray the way we did he could have taken it, Hi MR2 did you not get a shout? Keep it real EP!
I am keeping it 'REAL'  ManInBlackandGreen. Seems their balls have really went south following the RM incident at Rasharkin. For me anyway, the right man got the call and did a decent job, all things considered.

Hit a nerve A Chara :'( And it was in Ballymena not rasharkin, I see 3rd level education didn't reach some of us ;) Im glad EH was your right man, he's a great lad as are the other two, they all work hard as volunteers, like the rest of us
Third Level education may develop Intellect in some rare cases, but not necessarily 'the Balls' charachter or integrity!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
Too true A Chara, I'd change the Avatar then, strikes too much of wanna be/never will be. Enough of this banter, need to get ready long journey ahead today, duty calls ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 01:55:15 PM
It certainly doesn't improve some of the spelling on this forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P

Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
j
Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
lots of singing about Loughgiel recently mr2. ;)

Got a draw down in portaferry today with a lot of fellas not available. Good result in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:17:01 PM
In the league?

Portaferry are the worst of the Ards teams too!! poor turn out for long journey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:25:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:17:01 PM
In the league?

Portaferry are the worst of the Ards teams too!! poor turn out for long journey?
I think they're much of a muchness down there. Like I say, we'll take the draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
They only managed 7 points against your closest challengers last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
They only managed 7 points against your closest challengers last week
you're forgetting who they were playing today. Every team wants that scalp. They played well, fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
They only managed 7 points against your closest challengers last week
you're forgetting who they were playing today. Every team wants that scalp. They played well, fair play to them.

Course, that would be the reason, ahoghill were giving us our fill of it when i left at half time today.

Dall only won by 3 at the Crans. They obviously lifted their game also. And the town hammered Ballygalget. Johnny won't be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
Wonder how Portaferry would have done in Croke Park on Paddy's day,or any other team in the league for that matter.......bump.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
Very touchy the Loughgiel ones :o

Based on that performance they probably would have won the All Ireland :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 15, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
j
Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
lots of singing about Loughgiel recently mr2. ;)

Got a draw down in portaferry today with a lot of fellas not available. Good result in the end.

What regulars were missing SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 15, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
j
Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
lots of singing about Loughgiel recently mr2. ;)

Got a draw down in portaferry today with a lot of fellas not available. Good result in the end.

What regulars were missing SIE?

Here and the potential county stars from the reserve team were well beat also!! Must be still drinking ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
You sound pleased MR2......made your day has it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 15, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
j
Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
lots of singing about Loughgiel recently mr2. ;)

Got a draw down in portaferry today with a lot of fellas not available. Good result in the end.

What regulars were missing SIE?

Here and the potential county stars from the reserve team were well beat also!! Must be still drinking ;)
You'd be better asking which regulars started.  :)

R McCloskey, Jimmy Campbell, Shay Casey and Duck were the only regulars to start, the rest were reserves and two minors.

So to answer your snipe at us MR2 our reserves got a draw away to the senior Portaferry team. Our z squad + minors played the reserve game. A bounty of riches indeed.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
You sound pleased MR2......made your day has it?

Pleased about what? If we manage to beat St Pauls tomorrow night in the Beer Belly league and i score the winning goal thats all I'll be pleased about. What other clubs get up to means nowt to me.

Here's the thing bushwhaker, when posters come on and say their second string will beat most teams in Div 2 and some of the players should be county players means (to me) that they are full of shite and know nothing about hurling or the local game.  But that's just my opinion :o

No snipe just a bitta craic and chill SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 07:48:10 PM
MR2.....I never said some of our of our second string should be county players,but now that you mention it.............

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on April 15, 2012, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on April 15, 2012, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
How many referees on this site now? Nearly as many as the Loughgiel posters :o
I think its in proportion to the massive support we have.  :P
j
Or the, only sing when your winning mentality :o?
lots of singing about Loughgiel recently mr2. ;)

Got a draw down in portaferry today with a lot of fellas not available. Good result in the end.

What regulars were missing SIE?

Here and the potential county stars from the reserve team were well beat also!! Must be still drinking ;)
You'd be better asking which regulars started.  :)

R McCloskey, Jimmy Campbell, Shay Casey and Duck were the only regulars to start, the rest were reserves and two minors.

So to answer your snipe at us MR2 our reserves got a draw away to the senior Portaferry team. Our z squad + minors played the reserve game. A bounty of riches indeed.  :P

Seems to be a lot to be missing for the beginning of the league SIE.  Where were the rest of the regular starting team?  We came away with a win in Ballycran but made hard work of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 07:55:39 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 07:48:10 PM
MR2.....I never said some of our of our second string should be county players,but now that you mention it.............

Never said you did, said some posters. Keep up :o

Ya had a player that came on in the semi final that wouldn't make our beer belly team!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 15, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
SIE your Z Squad players must be some operators because your minors are brutal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 15, 2012, 08:02:03 PM
Very Good Jesus.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 15, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
SIE your Z Squad players must be some operators because your minors are brutal.
a bit like your u21s. Yous brought two fellas on in last years semi that would have been better equipped to play in the front row for the Ulster rugby xv.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
Multi talented our lads, SIE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 15, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 15, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
Too true A Chara, I'd change the Avatar then, strikes too much of wanna be/never will be. Enough of this banter, need to get ready long journey ahead today, duty calls ;)
ManInBlackandGreen, don't be so presumptuous that I would be your 'A Chara', far from it! U seem to be taking the entire Avatar thing outa context. Remember, things are generally  always down to perception and not always as they may seem.  I just don't like ambiguity, pretentiousness or over familiararity. Less of the bullshit please  ;D.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
MR2.....I've never had the pleasure of seeing your beer belly team,but that boy that came on in the semi-final must have had the desired effect, wouldn't you say.After all we......etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 15, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Sie you clown, if you remember one of the players you refer to scored 1-1 when he came on, and if it wasn't for our idiot manager he would have started. And in two matches the previous week against your minors and reserves he scored 4-4 in each match. So plenty of time for the kid who i might add has lost some serious weight, remember the golden boy only scored about 5 from play against us in 4 county finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
MR2.....I've never had the pleasure of seeing your beer belly team,but that boy that came on in the semi-final must have had the desired effect, wouldn't you say.After all we......etc. etc. etc.

He was terrible, dropped every ball and was weighing in at about 18/19 stone, I'd say he would be a front row player if playing rugby ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
Multi talented our lads, SIE.
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: JamesH on April 15, 2012, 10:42:09 PM
Sie you clown, if you remember one of the players you refer to scored 1-1 when he came on, and if it wasn't for our idiot manager he would have started. And in two matches the previous week against your minors and reserves he scored 4-4 in each match. So plenty of time for the kid who i might add has lost some serious weight, remember the golden boy only scored about 5 from play against us in 4 county finals.
Touched a nerve did I James? Only having a bit of banter with your clubmate there. No harm intended. As for your last statement, I'm sure he's wile worried about his scoring against yous boys while he's polishing his celtic cross.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
MR2.....I've never had the pleasure of seeing your beer belly team,but that boy that came on in the semi-final must have had the desired effect, wouldn't you say.After all we......etc. etc. etc.

He was terrible, dropped every ball and was weighing in at about 18/19 stone, I'd say he would be a front row player if playing rugby ;)
He'd be more of a back row to be fair.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 16, 2012, 09:12:46 AM
SIE he may polish away at his celtic cross, enjoy the success while it lasts because the way your under age teams are shaping up it ain't gonna last long. The past couple of weeks our minors and U-16's beat your fella's by cricket scores and we wouldn't be favorites for the championship at either grade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2012, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2012, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 15, 2012, 09:13:06 PM
MR2.....I've never had the pleasure of seeing your beer belly team,but that boy that came on in the semi-final must have had the desired effect, wouldn't you say.After all we......etc. etc. etc.

He was terrible, dropped every ball and was weighing in at about 18/19 stone, I'd say he would be a front row player if playing rugby ;)
He'd be more of a back row to be fair.   :)

Front row players are fat, the back row players are usually lean ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 16, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Some crack on this site! Mibag and El Plato time you put away the handbags and get back to some sensible stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
Jesus jones ....... it takes class to be in our position and should I add self belief.The Dall had good teams who could have done better,they just didn't have the confidence in themselves,same with Dunloy. We were lucky to win the championship against the Dall in September, but if it had went the other way would the Dall now be All Ireland champions ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
This is getting tedious in the extreme, do we set up a new thread for anyone who wants to comment on LG's AI win either positive or negative?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 16, 2012, 10:29:39 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
This is getting tedious in the extreme, do we set up a new thread for anyone who wants to comment on LG's AI win either positive or negative?
Two threads? One positive, one negative.

Either way suits me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Positive........What's the most positive thing to happen in Antrim hurling in years ? ........Answers on the back of a postage stamp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2012, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
Jesus jones ....... it takes class to be in our position and should I add self belief.The Dall had good teams who could have done better,they just didn't have the confidence in themselves,same with Dunloy. We were lucky to win the championship against the Dall in September, but if it had went the other way would the Dall now be All Ireland champions ?

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Positive........What's the most positive thing to happen in Antrim hurling in years ? ........Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

The planned redevelopment of Casement?
The move into leinster?
Sambo back in the minor set up?

Am I getting warm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Positive........What's the most positive thing to happen in Antrim hurling in years ? ........Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

The planned redevelopment of Casement?
The move into leinster?
Sambo back in the minor set up?

Am I getting warm?

Freezing!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 16, 2012, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Positive........What's the most positive thing to happen in Antrim hurling in years ? ........Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

Neil mc Manus
DD returning to the fold

Thats all I can think off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2012, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
Jesus jones ....... it takes class to be in our position and should I add self belief.The Dall had good teams who could have done better,they just didn't have the confidence in themselves,same with Dunloy. We were lucky to win the championship against the Dall in September, but if it had went the other way would the Dall now be All Ireland champions ?

What do you want here - adulation?

You won the AI and most people in antrim were more than happy for you.

It's now next season and you're at the top to be knocked down. It's not because you're Loughgiel and everyone doesn't like you because despite what you, SIE or anyone else say that is not the case. The vast majority of us were cheering you on and were delighted to see you win the AI - the ones that weren't well you would probably have been the same when their club were in the AI.

You're at the top to be knocked down and that's how it works in sport so it would be a good start for some of you boys to take that chip of your shoulder.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2012, 11:49:25 AM
Come on, let them rub it into their North Antrim friends a wee wile longer :o

I must admit I never came on and rubbed it in when Naomh Gall won the football All Ireland, not once. But us city folk are different  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AhJaysusRef on April 16, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
Some posters in this thread have a textbook case of Small Town Syndrome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on April 16, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
Some posters in this thread have a textbook case of Small Town Syndrome.

Would it be OK to have this syndrome if you actually are from a small town?  ;)
or is it just a natural disposition then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 12:08:07 PM
Ho,ho !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 16, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
The best thing to happen Antrim hurling recently??? Well I loved winning The Walsh Cup, beating Wexford in the league this year was great too. As Loughgiel's chosen one pointed out in both TV and paper interviews Loughgiel's success was about Loughgiel, not Antrim. Bushwacker it takes class??? Precious little class on show the other Sunday when Dunloy hurlers stood for the guard of honour. The bawling and bellowing you'd have though it was feeding time at the zoo, not a hurling match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 01:38:29 PM
JJ....were you there.I don't think so.I was there,there no shouting or bawling.You've been misinformed.Get over it.
Beating Wexford,sure we beat them every other year,I'm talking club level here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2012, 01:58:08 PM
Bushwhacker et al

This is how I see it, you (well club mates did because you are not here that long) complained that no one liked you and every one was against you during your losing streak of finals. Chip on your collective shoulder about that. Which the team used well for motivation to finally break the duck.

Now that you have had your success, you are still complaining that everyone is against your club. Go ahead and enjoy your success be gracious winners and have a bit of class in your glory period. No one in LG should need reminding that success is hard earned and a baron spell is never that far away no matter how good you think your current team is. An old saying springs to mind;

"Be nice to everyone on your way to the top because you pass them all on the way down"

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 16, 2012, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 01:38:29 PM
JJ....were you there.I don't think so.I was there,there no shouting or bawling.You've been misinformed.Get over it.
Beating Wexford,sure we beat them every other year,I'm talking club level here.

I am 100% sure Jesus Jones was at the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2012, 02:48:34 PM
Also the best thing to happen antrim in the last couple of years was beating dublin in croke park and getting to the quarter finals...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
NAG1.....We're no stranger to winning .First championship in 1920....60 years before the Dall and 70 years before Dunloy. What were they doing all that time ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2012, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
NAG1.....We're no stranger to winning .First championship in 1920....60 years before the Dall and 70 years before Dunloy. What were they doing all that time ?

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 16, 2012, 05:03:01 PM
hard to beat a bit of immature slabbering.  a credit to all you mouths out there.  OisinOg surprised at your choices for best things to happen in antrim.  you had been champion other keepers.  Wonder if you are actually an oisin at all.  Stand out thing imo for saffrons

Securing a decent manager, we have had a few turkeys in the past. (due to their approach to leagues and u21 set ups)
decent set of leagues
relatively competitive in the B layer of hurling

By the way terrible result for the saffron hurlers minor level at weekend.  what happened there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 16, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
I WAS at the game, wouldn't have missed an opportunity to see the mighty all conquering fantastic lovely super duper turbo charged, greatest team since hurling began, All Ireland champions The Shamrock's. Anyway this All Ireland thing is getting old, its so last season, what about this season? Well were top of the table and were there to stay. By the way Bushwacker you shouldn't boast about winning your first championship in 1920 whatever, winning championships since then and you still haven't more than Ballycastle.  :P   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 16, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
Now children, lets all just settle down, gather all the toys and put them back in the pram for goodness sake! And you folk all think you are making a positive contribution to the betterment of Antrim Hurling, catch a grip! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 16, 2012, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 16, 2012, 05:03:01 PM


By the way terrible result for the saffron hurlers minor level at weekend.  what happened there

I could be wrong but aren't they running an under 17 team in the Ulster league and an under 18 in the Leinster league, which might go some wat to explain it? Still a disappointment, though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 05:36:18 PM
You'll be glad hear that I'm resigning from this forum until after the 2012 championship final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 16, 2012, 06:01:52 PM
Buswhacker, before you go. Can you answer the question I asked you on the thread you started about professionalism in the GAA. Just an estimate now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
No idea, byeeeee!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 16, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
No idea, byeeeee!
Was it something some one said?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 16, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 16, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
No idea, byeeeee!

0wn3d

hahaha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 16, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 16, 2012, 05:03:01 PM
hard to beat a bit of immature slabbering.  a credit to all you mouths out there.  OisinOg surprised at your choices for best things to happen in antrim.  you had been champion other keepers.  Wonder if you are actually an oisin at all.  Stand out thing imo for saffrons

Securing a decent manager, we have had a few turkeys in the past. (due to their approach to leagues and u21 set ups)
decent set of leagues
relatively competitive in the B layer of hurling

By the way terrible result for the saffron hurlers minor level at weekend.  what happened there

I think DD is the best keeper Antrim has had since Niall Patterson and yes I'm an Oisin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 16, 2012, 11:33:08 PM
Oisin Og I'd have to disagree with you on the DD, vote who i rate as current number one by a mile but my choice has to go to Shane Elliott who was superb for the County for at least 10 years, until injury cut short his career, but its all opinions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 17, 2012, 07:23:57 AM
For my money Gareth Magee is head and shoulders the best keeper in Ulster and as good as any in Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 17, 2012, 07:23:57 AM
For my money Gareth Magee is head and shoulders the best keeper in Ulster and as good as any in Ireland.
Have a titter of wit!  Are you on the drugs man?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Parents taking their 17 year old kids away from the panel?????????????????????????? Could have imagine my Da saying that to me when i playing, ha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Whats the issue here, players played crap manager lands a few home truths, this is what is wrong with this generation and their pandering parents.

Cant/ Wont take any sort of criticism and always look for the easy way out, pull out of the panel and bitch about the manager.

What would be wrong with a parent for once saying to their young lad, yes you were poor and yes your manager was right to give you a rocket. So for the next game you go and prove that you are good enough and that you deserve to play IC Minor hurling. Too little responsibility is being taken on board by players at all levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on April 17, 2012, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Whats the issue here, players played crap manager lands a few home truths, this is what is wrong with this generation and their pandering parents.

Cant/ Wont take any sort of criticism and always look for the easy way out, pull out of the panel and bitch about the manager.

What would be wrong with a parent for once saying to their young lad, yes you were poor and yes your manager was right to give you a rocket. So for the next game you go and prove that you are good enough and that you deserve to play IC Minor hurling. Too little responsibility is being taken on board by players at all levels.

Correct. Shows how mentally tough they are that they respond to adversary by having  wee cry and telling on the bad man rather than show some kahunas and appetite to come back stronger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on April 17, 2012, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Whats the issue here, players played crap manager lands a few home truths, this is what is wrong with this generation and their pandering parents.

Cant/ Wont take any sort of criticism and always look for the easy way out, pull out of the panel and bitch about the manager.

What would be wrong with a parent for once saying to their young lad, yes you were poor and yes your manager was right to give you a rocket. So for the next game you go and prove that you are good enough and that you deserve to play IC Minor hurling. Too little responsibility is being taken on board by players at all levels.

Correct. Shows how mentally tough they are that they respond to adversary by having  wee cry and telling on the bad man rather than show some kahunas and appetite to come back stronger.
You would do well not to be making reference to 'Kahunas' here lad (Kahunas is BIG Balls, this is a Wee Balls site), don't appear to exist on this fora.  I was only stating what I was told, that 'some parents' were non too pleased with the Managers tyrannical outburst.  Don't shoot me, I am just a little 'Duck!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on April 17, 2012, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Whats the issue here, players played crap manager lands a few home truths, this is what is wrong with this generation and their pandering parents.

Cant/ Wont take any sort of criticism and always look for the easy way out, pull out of the panel and bitch about the manager.

What would be wrong with a parent for once saying to their young lad, yes you were poor and yes your manager was right to give you a rocket. So for the next game you go and prove that you are good enough and that you deserve to play IC Minor hurling. Too little responsibility is being taken on board by players at all levels.

Correct. Shows how mentally tough they are that they respond to adversary by having  wee cry and telling on the bad man rather than show some kahunas and appetite to come back stronger.

Its a big problem with all but a few U16/minors playing in and for Antrim atm. As a coach it would drive you nuts but at the end of the day ganchin only makes you feel better and the players just forget about it when they walk out the door.  They just cant live with any level of pain or the potential of getting a slap and hurling away regardless. All in the mind stuff.  Parents thinking of taking their kids away might be better served asking themselves why their sons are so ill equipped
to handle themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on April 17, 2012, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 17, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Heard the county minor manager ripped through the team after game last weekend.  Heard by parents picking kids up!
How the Down team shouldn be on same pitch, lazy bunch of so and sos, not fit to wear the antrim jersey.

Who do the minors play next? :o
"Mol an oige agus tiocfaidh si"  Praise the young and they will flourish/thrive - He's really setting a good example to young lads, he should not be anywhere near them if you ask me >:(  I am seriously thinking of writing a letter of complaint, but sure who would act on it, the Casement Mafia? ???  I hear some parents/clubs are threatening to withdraw their young lads from the squad?

Yeah, cause that would show the kids a good example as well  ::)

Whats the issue here, players played crap manager lands a few home truths, this is what is wrong with this generation and their pandering parents.

Cant/ Wont take any sort of criticism and always look for the easy way out, pull out of the panel and bitch about the manager.

What would be wrong with a parent for once saying to their young lad, yes you were poor and yes your manager was right to give you a rocket. So for the next game you go and prove that you are good enough and that you deserve to play IC Minor hurling. Too little responsibility is being taken on board by players at all levels.

Correct. Shows how mentally tough they are that they respond to adversary by having  wee cry and telling on the bad man rather than show some kahunas and appetite to come back stronger.

we cant judge if we didnt hear what was said. if he was getting personal with some players etc thats not on. but if they are getting a collective bo*licking for an under par performance then take it on the chin and no whinging. anybody that ever hurled has heard this stuff and going crying to the parents is over the top.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 02:18:27 PM
There is a fine line between what you can and can't say to kids but I'm taking this outlook....

Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
we cant judge if we didnt hear what was said.

IMO I would have thought it would be safe to assume that he wouldnt be insulting the lads parentage or getting into personal insults. Yeah I would say it was probably colourful and close to the bone at times. As most on here would know am not a massive fan of the manager in question but I would defend him on this one and condemn the pettiness of either the lads or parents involved in putting this story around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 17, 2012, 02:47:18 PM
Who is the county minor manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah totally agree HS

Just my opinion that this would be the type of lad/ parent that would buckle under pressure anyway so maybe no big loss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah totally agree HS

Just my opinion that this would be the type of lad/ parent that would buckle under pressure anyway so maybe no big loss.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah totally agree HS

Just my opinion that this would be the type of lad/ parent that would buckle under pressure anyway so maybe no big loss.
Fcuk I don't know if you can say that, Nag. I wouldn't like you to be the go to man on child protection issues if that's your attitude....

HS, wasnt referring to any kind of child abuse thats on a different level. My point simply was that if a lad/ parent cant take a good old fashioned managerial rant (i.e. as I said above one without personal insulting) then to me that shows a lack of strength of character and in my experience these are the personality types that crumble when it comes to the crunch anyway.

I know we are talking in the hypothetical here but I had prefaced that by saying that I didnt think the man in question would have gone down that route. If I am proved to be wrong on that one would happily hold my hands up and say yeah he crossed the line and any parent would / should withdraw their lad in that case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah totally agree HS

Just my opinion that this would be the type of lad/ parent that would buckle under pressure anyway so maybe no big loss.
Fcuk I don't know if you can say that, Nag. I wouldn't like you to be the go to man on child protection issues if that's your attitude....
You wouldn't have it in the policy document but not many would see you "burned at the stake" for quietly holding this opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 17, 2012, 03:19:55 PM
Got a beating from Ballycastle at the weekend past. They look to have got themselves organised a lot better than they have been in recent years, although their trainer (Cassidy I think) would do better than running on the field every farts end.

They started with the aid of a stiff breeze and we were going reasonably well, point for point for long enough then a few moments of madness let them in for a soft goal, followed by another dropping off Grahams hand into the net, as well as a well taken goal by their corner forward. That give them a seven point lead at half time.

They were then able to pack their defence and we never made any inroads into that lead as we don't have any aerial ball winners at all in our forwards. McAuley and Pinkie were catching all that came their way with ease and putting good ball into their forwards.

We may rue those home points as we'll not pick many up away from home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 17, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah totally agree HS

Just my opinion that this would be the type of lad/ parent that would buckle under pressure anyway so maybe no big loss.
Fcuk I don't know if you can say that, Nag. I wouldn't like you to be the go to man on child protection issues if that's your attitude....
You wouldn't have it in the policy document but not many would see you "burned at the stake" for quietly holding this opinion.

You're talking about 17 year old lads. not f**king babies!! Most of these 'kids' are working or heading to college in September. probably mouthy wee shites also to boot.

Providing he pubically didn't run down someone on their own and the bollocking was a collective then this is a non story. It's this sort of thing that stops people getting involved with taking teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
Is that what stops St Galls from getting a HURLING manager MR ?
Any developments with that yet ?
Still not training ? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
Is that what stops St Galls from getting a HURLING manager MR ?
Any developments with that yet ?
Still not training ? lol

Our treasure won't release funds for hurling balls so we can't train, until then we'll just play football, plenty of those things lying around :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:51:12 PM
Having difficulties with the club committee isnt a good start for any manager but not having access to balls is a major issue for any manager....surely its not bad .
Is this another cry wolf situation like your no training scenarion which was totally blown out of the water last wednesday against the premier club. ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
probably mouthy wee shites also to boot.
Any other assumptions we want to make about them?

FFS!

Yeah, probably glue sniffers and sheep shaggers FFS

Oops that was just the minor team i was on. Ed McCoy was playing lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
probably mouthy wee shites also to boot.
Any other assumptions we want to make about them?

FFS!

Yeah, probably glue sniffers and sheep shaggers FFS

Oops that was just the minor team i was on. Ed McCoy was playing lol

Thats the problem..you shag 1 sheep and you get the name of a sheep shagger. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
Is that what stops St Galls from getting a HURLING manager MR ?
Any developments with that yet ?
Still not training ? lol

Our treasure won't release funds for hurling balls so we can't train, until then we'll just play football, plenty of those things lying around :P

Mr2 why do you insist on maintaining the notion that galls don't train for hurling? And now it's extended to no sliotars? What next only footballers allowed to wear jerseys? Have to walk to away games?

The fact is St galls do train for hurling - I have had several conversations with 2 different first teamers!

So can we stop this charade whatever your agenda is?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2012, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
Is that what stops St Galls from getting a HURLING manager MR ?
Any developments with that yet ?
Still not training ? lol

Our treasure won't release funds for hurling balls so we can't train, until then we'll just play football, plenty of those things lying around :P

mr2 i dont know if this will help but i can source you balls way cheaper than o niells. as good a quality maybe even hold up better in wet training. if your intrested pm me and ill give you his details
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2012, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 17, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 17, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
probably mouthy wee shites also to boot.
Any other assumptions we want to make about them?

FFS!

Yeah, probably glue sniffers and sheep shaggers FFS

Oops that was just the minor team i was on. Ed McCoy was playing lol

Thats the problem..you shag 1 sheep and you get the name of a sheep shagger. ;D

never shagged a sheep in my life, to be honest i couldnt catch them, if you could breed them  a bit of stick work into them, instant wing forward plenty of pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 06:00:26 PM
We haven't trained, nor do we have a trainer. Im not making this up. As for not having any balls hardstation, that certainly wasn't the case last week :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Mr2 now all is clear - evidently the galls men are not telling you about training! Wonder why?

I joke (a bit) but plainly galls have been training - sure even I know they've been going at weekend with football during the week.

Dont know what benefit u thunk it brings to at down galls on this forum. But the rest of us are well used to it! Cry wolf etc!

Now more importantly I will be at milltown on Sunday - Oisin og fancy giving a more reliable account of how this promotion dogfight might go?
I wonder could I get odds on galls to win this weekend but oisins to get promoted! You heard it here first!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
Look on the bright side, at least Sambo was talking to the minors.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 17, 2012, 06:32:29 PM
I wasn't at our last game but by all accounts we didn't really get going. Going to Milltown is never an easy game. I fancy a win but it will be close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
Well considering st galls haven't trained and have no balls you'd have to fancy glenariff. Sarsfields to push for promotion, I heard it from the horses mouth
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2012, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
Look on the bright side, at least Sambo was talking to the minors.   :P

was does that mean SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 17, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
Well considering st galls haven't trained and have no balls you'd have to fancy glenariff. Sarsfields to push for promotion, I heard it from the horses mouth

From what I here sarsfields are flying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 17, 2012, 08:35:12 PM
They are and are really confident about being there or thereabouts come the end of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 08:35:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Mr2 now all is clear - evidently the galls men are not telling you about training! Wonder why?

I joke (a bit) but plainly galls have been training - sure even I know they've been going at weekend with football during the week.

Dont know what benefit u thunk it brings to at down galls on this forum. But the rest of us are well used to it! Cry wolf etc!

Now more importantly I will be at milltown on Sunday - Oisin og fancy giving a more reliable account of how this promotion dogfight might go?
I wonder could I get odds on galls to win this weekend but oisins to get promoted! You heard it here first!

What training have we done? Who takes these training session you waffle about? We haven't had a session since before the Cushendall match. I believe I know more about it than you. Let it rest at that.

As for the Rossa match, it was a fluke. We scored a few goals that were mistakes by the other team. Not engineered goals by us. we only scored 9 points in a game. Any team that can only score 9 points in a match in great conditions won't go far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
My mistake mr2 the 2 prominent players I spoke to must be lying about training on the Saturday before the Rossa game - yes they completely made it up. And the five goals were five flukes.

Honestly I don't know why you want to constantly play down galls but it's getting boring.

Is it a case of "look at what we can do with no effort aren't we great"
Or do u think your posts actually affect opposition going into games?!

Either way I hope galls see off oisins even if as I said I see oisins eventually going up once dual commitments inhibit galls - no big ball in Glenarriffe only half a club!!

Otherwise I can't see sarsfields figuring at all unless that was sarcasm.
Hopefully as a Belfast side they will stay up and it looks really like they will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
My mistake mr2 the 2 prominent players I spoke to must be lying about training on the Saturday before the Rossa game - yes they completely made it up. And the five goals were five flukes.

Honestly I don't know why you want to constantly play down galls but it's getting boring.

Is it a case of "look at what we can do with no effort aren't we great"
Or do u think your posts actually affect opposition going into games?!

Either way I hope galls see off oisins even if as I said I see oisins eventually going up once dual commitments inhibit galls - no big ball in Glenarriffe only half a club!!

Otherwise I can't see sarsfields figuring at all unless that was sarcasm.
Hopefully as a Belfast side they will stay up and it looks really like they will.

There is bog ball, just for the females though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
My mistake mr2 the 2 prominent players I spoke to must be lying about training on the Saturday before the Rossa game - yes they completely made it up. And the five goals were five flukes.

Honestly I don't know why you want to constantly play down galls but it's getting boring.

Is it a case of "look at what we can do with no effort aren't we great"
Or do u think your posts actually affect opposition going into games?!

Either way I hope galls see off oisins even if as I said I see oisins eventually going up once dual commitments inhibit galls - no big ball in Glenarriffe only half a club!!

Otherwise I can't see sarsfields figuring at all unless that was sarcasm.
Hopefully as a Belfast side they will stay up and it looks really like they will.

There were no 'prominent' (i.e county players) players playing our charity sevens. We played 4, 7 minute games, 7 aside, and got hammered afterwards. You shouldn't listen to lads filling you with shite and maybe laughing at you posting it here lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 17, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 17, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
My mistake mr2 the 2 prominent players I spoke to must be lying about training on the Saturday before the Rossa game - yes they completely made it up. And the five goals were five flukes.

Honestly I don't know why you want to constantly play down galls but it's getting boring.

Is it a case of "look at what we can do with no effort aren't we great"
Or do u think your posts actually affect opposition going into games?!

Either way I hope galls see off oisins even if as I said I see oisins eventually going up once dual commitments inhibit galls - no big ball in Glenarriffe only half a club!!

Otherwise I can't see sarsfields figuring at all unless that was sarcasm.
Hopefully as a Belfast side they will stay up and it looks really like they will.

There is bog ball, just for the females though.
Glad you didnt say "ladies"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
talking to a number of galls men, they have been doing a bit.  still fancy oisins but it will be tight one. reckon it'll be worth going to, game of weekend.  also might go to try and identify some of the jokers on this site.  are the changing facilities still a treat.  used to play the odd game there and it was a bit of a disgrace.  what about the pitch ?? on it once or twice after it was renewed and it was pretty shite.  though realise it sees alot of traffic like my own club.  hard to balance the both codes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
talking to a number of galls men, they have been doing a bit.  still fancy oisins but it will be tight one. reckon it'll be worth going to, game of weekend.  also might go to try and identify some of the jokers on this site.  are the changing facilities still a treat.  used to play the odd game there and it was a bit of a disgrace.  what about the pitch ?? on it once or twice after it was renewed and it was pretty shite.  though realise it sees alot of traffic like my own club.  hard to balance the both codes

Christ our lads do a wile bitta talking  ;D

I see you're from Bredagh, they have cracking facilities haven't they? Where do they play again? How many games have Bredagh played at Naomh Gall?

Changing rooms are a lot better than before, not up to the standard of Bredagh's 'own' changing rooms :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
So Mr2 not only do u now admit galls have done some work but I said "prominent" players and u substituted this for "county" players. This proves my point - I am not concerned with what training St Galls do - just pointing out that for some reason u are disingenuous and insist on down-playing ur sides preparations. That's up to you but like I say at this stage it's just crying wolf for the rest of us.

Whatever - fingers crossed for a galls win I think by a single point. This might be the best game of the weekend including the top tier. See u there saff89! Paying in will maybe by u some sliotars mr2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:28:43 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
talking to a number of galls men, they have been doing a bit.  still fancy oisins but it will be tight one. reckon it'll be worth going to, game of weekend.  also might go to try and identify some of the jokers on this site.  are the changing facilities still a treat.  used to play the odd game there and it was a bit of a disgrace.  what about the pitch ?? on it once or twice after it was renewed and it was pretty shite.  though realise it sees alot of traffic like my own club.  hard to balance the both codes

Christ our lads do a wile bitta talking  ;D

I see you're from Bredagh, they have cracking facilities haven't they? Where do they play again? How many games have Bredagh played at Naomh Gall?

Changing rooms are a lot better than before, not up to the standard of Bredagh's 'own' changing rooms :o

now now a little touchy MR2.  Council keeps the toilets working at least.  surface here in cherryvale alot better at times.  Merely pointing out that the pitch was poor last couple of times had been on it.  shortly after it had opened.  for a new pitch it was very poor.  you wouldn't have been in the visitors changing room much. 

these lads shouldn't be talking as you are the official spokesperson for club

will you be inside the wire on Sunday, or on the hill mouthing.

are all the mccourtys going to be in action.  its half the fun listening to the mouthing that is done by the galls men as well.

Strong referee required.  they'll probably send OE who'll try and steal the show

will tosh be in action ??? oisin og or Minder

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
So Mr2 not only do u now admit galls have done some work but I said "prominent" players and u substituted this for "county" players. This proves my point - I am not concerned with what training St Galls do - just pointing out that for some reason u are disingenuous and insist on down-playing ur sides preparations. That's up to you but like I say at this stage it's just crying wolf for the rest of us.

Whatever - fingers crossed for a galls win I think by a single point. This might be the best game of the weekend including the top tier. See u there saff89! Paying in will maybe by u some sliotars mr2!

Again you said training, I said charity sevens which we have done for years. Boring me now, begining to sound like the last posters who always end up getting kicked off the board for losing it.

Saff89, strange being a Down man supporting the Saffs greatest achievement (getting to All Ireland Final) with your board name ;)

It seems some posters can't stay away :o Your doing all the mouthing here :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
So Mr2 not only do u now admit galls have done some work but I said "prominent" players and u substituted this for "county" players. This proves my point - I am not concerned with what training St Galls do - just pointing out that for some reason u are disingenuous and insist on down-playing ur sides preparations. That's up to you but like I say at this stage it's just crying wolf for the rest of us.

Whatever - fingers crossed for a galls win I think by a single point. This might be the best game of the weekend including the top tier. See u there saff89! Paying in will maybe by u some sliotars mr2!

Again you said training, I said charity sevens which we have done for years. Boring me now, begining to sound like the last posters who always end up getting kicked off the board for losing it.

Saff89, strange being a Down man supporting the Saffs greatest achievement (getting to All Ireland Final) with your board name ;)

It seems some posters can't stay away :o Your doing all the mouthing here :'(

alot like the galls we are a mixed bag over here.  Just a little more polished.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
So Mr2 not only do u now admit galls have done some work but I said "prominent" players and u substituted this for "county" players. This proves my point - I am not concerned with what training St Galls do - just pointing out that for some reason u are disingenuous and insist on down-playing ur sides preparations. That's up to you but like I say at this stage it's just crying wolf for the rest of us.

Whatever - fingers crossed for a galls win I think by a single point. This might be the best game of the weekend including the top tier. See u there saff89! Paying in will maybe by u some sliotars mr2!

Again you said training, I said charity sevens which we have done for years. Boring me now, begining to sound like the last posters who always end up getting kicked off the board for losing it.

Saff89, strange being a Down man supporting the Saffs greatest achievement (getting to All Ireland Final) with your board name ;)

It seems some posters can't stay away :o Your doing all the mouthing here :'(

alot like the galls we are a mixed bag over here.  Just a little more polished.  :P

And a decent Galls man looking after the kids too, but you'd know that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 17, 2012, 10:48:12 PM
Really sad state of affairs that St. Gall's have no 'Kahunas!  I never though that applied to the Hurlers in St. Galls, yet maybe the footballers  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2012, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
So Mr2 not only do u now admit galls have done some work but I said "prominent" players and u substituted this for "county" players. This proves my point - I am not concerned with what training St Galls do - just pointing out that for some reason u are disingenuous and insist on down-playing ur sides preparations. That's up to you but like I say at this stage it's just crying wolf for the rest of us.

Whatever - fingers crossed for a galls win I think by a single point. This might be the best game of the weekend including the top tier. See u there saff89! Paying in will maybe by u some sliotars mr2!

Again you said training, I said charity sevens which we have done for years. Boring me now, begining to sound like the last posters who always end up getting kicked off the board for losing it.

Saff89, strange being a Down man supporting the Saffs greatest achievement (getting to All Ireland Final) with your board name ;)

It seems some posters can't stay away :o Your doing all the mouthing here :'(

alot like the galls we are a mixed bag over here.  Just a little more polished.  :P

And a decent Galls man looking after the kids too, but you'd know that

a decent Galls Man ??? 

Might even be one on development crowd looking at possibilities for a more permanent base.  However what we have is pretty central at present and money kind a tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:57:36 PM
SIE is the shamrocks management team still the same this year ??.  haven't see much of the mighty BABS thus far.  Is little Jim going to come back on board in the summer.  Mick o'connell and the oil man are they still involved?  your man casey is that him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2012, 11:25:51 PM
Mr2 just for info I said "work" not training so that covers your "charity 7s"
Anyway Gettin boring as u say - I just think I have proven my point that you seem intent on playing down galls hurling preparations/commitment - for whatever reason known only to yourself. I even think that's the consensus in the board so not sure why I would get "kicked off"!!

Anyway good luck on sunday.

And for what it's worth I dare say breadagh has more than just former galls making up the ranks! Plenty of former westies who prefer to stay in leafy south Belfast for reasons we all know! More social / economic than sporting!
That's said there is a valid argument that all clubs begin with elements from others. I genuinely love to see the gaa presence in south Belfast and hope it continues to go from strength to strength! After all, the 2nd and 3rd generations will in effect be born & bred bredagh. Or carryduff! Fair play and if I am not mistaken both clubs are already causing ripples amongst the old order.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 18, 2012, 06:16:46 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 17, 2012, 10:57:36 PM
SIE is the shamrocks management team still the same this year ??.  haven't see much of the mighty BABS thus far.  Is little Jim going to come back on board in the summer.  Mick o'connell and the oil man are they still involved?  your man casey is that him
The management is the same, as far as I know. You'd have seen them if you'd been at the Dunloy and Portaferry matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 18, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
Any predictions for this weekends matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Here's my effort JJ - Div1 hard to call this week:

Loughuile V Ballycran - LOUGHUILE (easily)
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST JOHNS (home advantage to tell)
Portaferry V Ballycastle - PORTAFERRY (long trip no good for the Town)
Dunloy V Cushendall - CUSHENDALL (close call)

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Carey V TirNaNog - CAREY (home advantage)
GortNaMona V Sarsfields - GORTNAMONA  (home advantage)
St Galls V Glenarriffe - ST GALLS (maybe by a point, though could go either way)
Rossa V Lamh Dearg - DRAW (toss of a coin)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 11:38:33 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Here's my effort JJ - Div1 hard to call this week:

Loughuile V Ballycran - LOUGHUILE (easily)
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST JOHNS (home advantage to tell)
Portaferry V Ballycastle - PORTAFERRY (long trip no good for the Town)
Dunloy V Cushendall - CUSHENDALL (close call)

-----

Carey V TirNaNog - CAREY (home advantage)
GortNaMona V Sarsfields - GORTNAMONA  (home advantage)
St Galls V Glenarriffe - ST GALLS (maybe by a point, though could go either way)
Rossa V Lamh Dearg - DRAW (toss of a coin)

Loughgiel by 20
Ballygalget St Johns game. A tight game, either way. Galget by 1
Ballycastle, they won handy in Ards last week don't see any real reason they won't again
Cushendall to shade it if Shortty isn't playing
Carey to win
Sarsfields to continue winning form, Gorts in disarray
Can't call our game, hope we win
Rossa can't afford another defeat, should account for Lamhs but only just.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 18, 2012, 11:41:57 AM
Loughuile V Ballycran - LOUGHUILE
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST JOHNS
Portaferry V Ballycastle - Ballycastle
Dunloy V Cushendall - Dunloy (Cushendall has had a poor start according to some of the players)

Carey V TirNaNog - Tir NaNog Carey not looking to strong
GortNaMona V Sarsfields - Sarsfields they seem to be flying
St Galls V Glenarriffe - homefully a win for us
Rossa V Lamh Dearg - Lamh Dearg (St Galls beat them and St Galls are not training  :D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
Have read some shite on here about st.galls hurlers - if only you took MR2 by his word - although thats probably what he wants!

They have done absolutely nothing! Just shows though that people cant get away from talking about the St.Galls club!

Although i somehow fancy them this Sunday, infact i worry a little for Oisins - think they may struggle in the city!
But have been wrong before. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 11:38:33 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Here's my effort JJ - Div1 hard to call this week:

Loughuile V Ballycran - LOUGHUILE (easily)
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST JOHNS (home advantage to tell)
Portaferry V Ballycastle - PORTAFERRY (long trip no good for the Town)
Dunloy V Cushendall - CUSHENDALL (close call)

-----

Carey V TirNaNog - CAREY (home advantage)
GortNaMona V Sarsfields - GORTNAMONA  (home advantage)
St Galls V Glenarriffe - ST GALLS (maybe by a point, though could go either way)
Rossa V Lamh Dearg - DRAW (toss of a coin)

Loughgiel by 20
Ballygalget St Johns game. A tight game, either way. Galget by 1
Ballycastle, they won handy in Ards last week don't see any real reason they won't again
Cushendall to shade it if Shortty isn't playing
Carey to win
Sarsfields to continue winning form, Gorts in disarrayCan't call our game, hope we win
Rossa can't afford another defeat, should account for Lamhs but only just.


Whats wrong up the Monagh by-pass??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 11:38:33 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
Here's my effort JJ - Div1 hard to call this week:

Loughuile V Ballycran - LOUGHUILE (easily)
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST JOHNS (home advantage to tell)
Portaferry V Ballycastle - PORTAFERRY (long trip no good for the Town)
Dunloy V Cushendall - CUSHENDALL (close call)

-----

Carey V TirNaNog - CAREY (home advantage)
GortNaMona V Sarsfields - GORTNAMONA  (home advantage)
St Galls V Glenarriffe - ST GALLS (maybe by a point, though could go either way)
Rossa V Lamh Dearg - DRAW (toss of a coin)

Loughgiel by 20
Ballygalget St Johns game. A tight game, either way. Galget by 1
Ballycastle, they won handy in Ards last week don't see any real reason they won't again
Cushendall to shade it if Shortty isn't playing
Carey to win
Sarsfields to continue winning form, Gorts in disarrayCan't call our game, hope we win
Rossa can't afford another defeat, should account for Lamhs but only just.


Whats wrong up the Monagh by-pass??

Surely with all the prominent players you know all over the place you'll know :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 12:28:29 PM
Prominant or county?!
Yeah no doubt I could find out but I thought it was quicker to ask here and as usual pass time at my employers expense.
Hope I dont get kicked off the forum for that now?!
Still touchy after you Galls bluffs I see MR2 - maybe someone can buy you a few sliotars to cheer you up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 18, 2012, 12:58:15 PM
To put this to bed. After all the shite being talked a clubs training or not training I contacted a few of their players to find out the truth. Whether these players are prominent or not is irrelevant. Seems MR has been telling the truth. They had an inter club 7's tournament on easter saturday which they have had for the past few years but apart from that have done nothing. Still no training since rossa match too . Very strange all the same. Why is that MR?. Can you not get committment for training although I do believe quite a few are doing football training which would explain their fitness?. The problems associated with a dual club I guess. Something LG etc wouldn't experience. Pity for galls though as be interested to see how good they could be if only a hurling club but I guess that's why they are a real gaa club unlike some
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 18, 2012, 01:17:53 PM
Oh yes!!! ;D.      That's funny.   A real gaa club unlike others:). Not even worth getting into!! SLABBER!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 18, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
A bit tongue in cheek maybe but def a disadvantage for dual clubs when it comes to winning titles. You not agree?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 18, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
A bit tongue in cheek maybe but def a disadvantage for dual clubs when it comes to winning titles. You not agree?

agreed this dual thing is geeting a real pain. seems each code is gettng more specialised. have to defend LG here. not there fault they like hurling only. I dont know if i would be in favour getting rid of the old bogball but it is a disadvantage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember whaqt its about!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 04:09:46 PM
no ones arguing what the gaa is about but its definitely harder to win titles if you are a dual club...wind your neck in deary me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 07:00:58 PM
I have said it before a one code club should be ashamed to be beaten by a dual club - the issue us not just players but resources (pitch access) as well.
I don't think we'll see a shamrock football team anytime soon!
Why would they...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember what its about!

deary deary deary deary me, does that mean kilkenny not in the gaa,or monaghan after last week. If a club plays one code only its still a gaa club. one with less logistical headaches, less in house fighting over players and training rights. less money going out for gear, transport, etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 18, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 18, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
A bit tongue in cheek maybe but def a disadvantage for dual clubs when it comes to winning titles. You not agree?
. Yes of corse it makes sense.   But who's choice is it??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 18, 2012, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember what its about!

deary deary deary deary me, does that mean kilkenny not in the gaa,or monaghan after last week. If a club plays one code only its still a gaa club. one with less logistical headaches, less in house fighting over players and training rights. less money going out for gear, transport, etc
At least a little bit of sense NAH, well said!  Less resources, less personnel required, less financial overheads, less internal code politics, less gansey's, less cleaning of kit, less problems recruiting young people, less poaching of young people.  Nothing at all wrong with focusing/specialising on the one code, makes perfect sense.  However, it does create division among city clubs in particular.  North Antrim would certainly not appear to have the same problem and clearly give preference to specialism in hurling.  None of us have any right what so ever to judge any club who are promoting or favouring a specific code, it really does come down to available resources.  St. Galls however in my opinion have the scope to excel in both codes, but resources/personnel and internal politics will always dictate their preferred leaning towards bog-ball.  In many respects, St. Johns, Lamh Dhearg, St. Pauls, city clubs in general will always find it more difficult to excel in both codes at the same time.  But I suppose we all have a personal bias towards hurling, but still always going to play second fiddle in Antrim and Ulster. The evidence is quite clear in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember what its about!

deary deary deary deary me, does that mean kilkenny not in the gaa,or monaghan after last week. If a club plays one code only its still a gaa club. one with less logistical headaches, less in house fighting over players and training rights. less money going out for gear, transport, etc

And less opportunity for less people to promote our games less.

Although like I say I can see north antrim point - and Kilkenny for that matter.
Personally I would rather stick a knife in the big ball - Ooops did I just say that!

Nah I do have more admiration for dual clubs and he'll throw in handball scor etc.
Multi-faceted clubs predominantly in Belfast but I must say I have always admired dunloy in this respect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 18, 2012, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember what its about!

deary deary deary deary me, does that mean kilkenny not in the gaa,or monaghan after last week. If a club plays one code only its still a gaa club. one with less logistical headaches, less in house fighting over players and training rights. less money going out for gear, transport, etc
At least a little bit of sense NAH, well said!  Less resources, less personnel required, less financial overheads, less internal code politics, less gansey's, less cleaning of kit, less problems recruiting young people, less poaching of young people.  Nothing at all wrong with focusing/specialising on the won code, make perfect sense.  However, it does create division among city clubs in particular.  North Antrim would certainly not appear to have the same problem and clearly give preference to specialism in hurling.  None of us have any right what so ever to judge any club who are promoting or favouring a specific code, it really all does come down to resources.  St. Galls however in my opinion have the scope to excel in both codes, but resources/personnel and internal politics will always dictate their preferred leaning towards bog-ball.  In many respects, St. Johns, Lamh Dhearg, St. Pauls, city clubs in general will always find it more difficult to excel in both codes at the same time.  But I suppose we all have a personal bias towards hurling, but still always going to play second fiddle in Antrim and Ulster. The evidence is quite clear in this regard

We manage to beat Cargin (a single code club) every year, so no real evidence to back up that dual clubs need to decide on a code and run with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Judging by your own assertions mr2 that's because St galls have chosen football as their code - ya know with no hurling training or sliotars!!

Couldn't resist that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 19, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2012, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 18, 2012, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 18, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 18, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
Deary Deary Me, a disadvantage???  For gods sake man, you're part of the GAA!!  Remember what its about!

deary deary deary deary me, does that mean kilkenny not in the gaa,or monaghan after last week. If a club plays one code only its still a gaa club. one with less logistical headaches, less in house fighting over players and training rights. less money going out for gear, transport, etc
At least a little bit of sense NAH, well said!  Less resources, less personnel required, less financial overheads, less internal code politics, less gansey's, less cleaning of kit, less problems recruiting young people, less poaching of young people.  Nothing at all wrong with focusing/specialising on the won code, make perfect sense.  However, it does create division among city clubs in particular.  North Antrim would certainly not appear to have the same problem and clearly give preference to specialism in hurling.  None of us have any right what so ever to judge any club who are promoting or favouring a specific code, it really all does come down to resources.  St. Galls however in my opinion have the scope to excel in both codes, but resources/personnel and internal politics will always dictate their preferred leaning towards bog-ball.  In many respects, St. Johns, Lamh Dhearg, St. Pauls, city clubs in general will always find it more difficult to excel in both codes at the same time.  But I suppose we all have a personal bias towards hurling, but still always going to play second fiddle in Antrim and Ulster. The evidence is quite clear in this regard

We manage to beat Cargin (a single code club) every year, so no real evidence to back up that dual clubs need to decide on a code and run with it.

I must say if you put me on the spot I would stick a knife in it(big ball) myself at times. the amount of times some of our hurling coaches had depleted squads for training because of a football clash.we cant get work done with our players from the ground to u 21 and hurling is all about hard work. but there are people in our club who prefer football then so be it.I must admit i like watching football especially when the ulster teams are going well but I think it should never be at the expense of hurling. its tough when your the only club in north antrim with this dilemma,definitely a disadvantage at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 19, 2012, 07:52:40 AM
North Antrim Hound Ballycastle have football teams right from U-10 to senior as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Judging by your own assertions mr2 that's because St galls have chosen football as their code - ya know with no hurling training or sliotars!!

Couldn't resist that.

Eh??

I doubt you will find anybody in Ireland that will say we are a hurling club. I must say you have done well in taking up the mantle of the latest troll on the Antrim thread. Keep her lit. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 19, 2012, 10:12:51 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 19, 2012, 07:52:40 AM
North Antrim Hound Ballycastle have football teams right from U-10 to senior as well.

I know but i don't think they complete in all the sw leauges just the odd blitz and stuff. I'm open to correction here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Judging by your own assertions mr2 that's because St galls have chosen football as their code - ya know with no hurling training or sliotars!!

Couldn't resist that.

Eh??

I doubt you will find anybody in Ireland that will say we are a hurling club. I must say you have done well in taking up the mantle of the latest troll on the Antrim thread. Keep her lit. :o

Good God MR2 I think you are from Loughiel in a former life! I meant judging by your assertions on the hurlers efforts St Galls have decided to be a football club (as in your point about picking one code).
Simple really?!

Anyway - I think if a dual club is to be successful it must have a dominant code - for example Dunloy put hurling over football while St Galls put football over hurling. I think this is understandable and if anything laudable.
The strains of dual-players and resources like pitches simply no longer allows dual clubs to compete with single code clubs. Not unless they have two distinct panels and pitches and I dont see much of that anywhere in Ireland let alone Antrim!
To attempt to do both (while noble) is really tantamount to accepting mediocrity in both. Not a bad way to be as such but dont expect to be having many awards at such a club's annual dinner!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Judging by your own assertions mr2 that's because St galls have chosen football as their code - ya know with no hurling training or sliotars!!

Couldn't resist that.


Eh??

I doubt you will find anybody in Ireland that will say we are a hurling club. I must say you have done well in taking up the mantle of the latest troll on the Antrim thread. Keep her lit. :o

Good God MR2 I think you are from Loughiel in a former life! I meant judging by your assertions on the hurlers efforts St Galls have decided to be a football club (as in your point about picking one code).
Simple really?!

Anyway - I think if a dual club is to be successful it must have a dominant code - for example Dunloy put hurling over football while St Galls put football over hurling. I think this is understandable and if anything laudable.
The strains of dual-players and resources like pitches simply no longer allows dual clubs to compete with single code clubs. Not unless they have two distinct panels and pitches and I dont see much of that anywhere in Ireland let alone Antrim!
To attempt to do both (while noble) is really tantamount to accepting mediocrity in both. Not a bad way to be as such but dont expect to be having many awards at such a club's annual dinner!

Two clubs that you have mentioned, Dunloy  and ourselves. Dunloy won the Ulster hurling championship recently and the same year and their Football team got to the Ulster Intermediate final.

Naomh Gall competed in two All Ireland finals, won the senior final and lost out in the hurling Intermediate final, all in the same year with a lot of players playing both. I'd say if you call that mediocrity then there are a lot of clubs out there out would love a slice of that mediocrity that you talk about. Ours and Dunloy's annual diners that year were great.

I never said that we should pick one club by the way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 12:20:36 PM
Yes Mr2 I stand by my point - the mediocrity is compared to the succes of the dominant code in that same club - not to other clubs. After all it would be easy for any club to deem themselves successful if they just looked round for a small less successful club. Thats is, Dunloy's football achievments are mediocre compared to their hurlers and the same for St Galls All-Ireland success pales the hurlers to mediocre.
The point I make is simply for example I think the days of an club genuinely competing to winning senior championships / Div1 leagues in both codes in the same year are gone (this had been possible in years gone by).
I am not suggesting picking one code and abandoning the other either, just picking one to put more emphasis on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 19, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 12:20:36 PM
Yes Mr2 I stand by my point - the mediocrity is compared to the succes of the dominant code in that same club - not to other clubs. After all it would be easy for any club to deem themselves successful if they just looked round for a small less successful club. Thats is, Dunloy's football achievments are mediocre compared to their hurlers and the same for St Galls All-Ireland success pales the hurlers to mediocre.
The point I make is simply for example I think the days of an club genuinely competing to winning senior championships / Div1 leagues in both codes in the same year are gone (this had been possible in years gone by).
I am not suggesting picking one code and abandoning the other either, just picking one to put more emphasis on.

So going by that logical, single code clubs should be dominating the football and hurling championships? Why is this not the case then, when the dual clubs are settling for mediocrity?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 12:43:20 PM
I think your full of shite with this btgttbtgttt.

Cargin, single code should be cleaning up. Downpatrick (big town) single club, should be cleaning up and so on and so on and so on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 01:36:27 PM
Yes! I think Cargin should be winning more - but then no doubt they can viably argue that they would be only for an exceptional once in a generation Galls team.
Also, have Loughuile and Cushendall not contested the past 2 hurling finals - one code clubs!
Even if we factor in St Galls football and Dunloy hurling - these are clubs which evidently favour one code!

So yes! The results on the pitch support my argument!

Look at the leagues - Cargin are a one code club who again only have been foiled from routine league wins by the freak Galls outfit. The prominance of South/West clubs has risen also. The hurling league is routinely won by single code Loughiel followed by single codes Cushendall and hurling dominant Dunloy. Before that the last winners (I believe) were single code Portaferry!

Now there are ofcourse other examples which dont fit the rule (e.g) Downpatrick as you mention.
However I am not saying single/dual codes is the only factor. For example, Carey or Glenarriffe are single codes but will point to catchment as a mitigating factor. I've no idea about Downpatrick maybe they dont have a large football tradition or lose players to more traditional outlying clubs I dont know but I am sure someone in Downpatrick might tell us!

On the other hand look at some dual clubs like Gort, Rossa, Lamh Dearg, Sarsfields and maybe Clooney/Aghohill etc - they promote both codes equally and so are hardly standing on the steps of Casement regularly at senior level?!
In 1988 St Johns won the football (whilst having a strong hurling side) and Rossa won the hurling (while having a strong football side). This has not happened in a single year since - thats nearly a quarter of a century ago guys! And I dont see it changing anytime soon! St Johns did the double in the 60s I dont think this will ever be repeated!

In summary - I obviously know that there are many factors at play in determining a clubs success - but I think a major one is whether or not they are a dual club. And the influence of this factor has grown since the 60/70/80s when clubs could win both championships. I think it will continue to more and more apparent.

After all, Loughiel have a massive number of players and two pitches - if they were in someway forced to introduce football I bet the major objection would be (and rightly) "No - becasue it will affect hurling fortunes". Thats says it all.

To finish - single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties.
Anyone who disputes that...
Well I don't know...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 19, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
I think putting it simply, if your a single code club an your good enough, you'll win titles. If not, then.... My Personal issue with Dual code (being a member of one) is having a player/players at junvenille level who is handy with the stick and football. They are playing both codes at say u-16, also brought up to the minor squad as well. Throw in school games (probably representing various year groups) and throw in development squads! When squads are getting smaller alot is being asked, but as a coach you want your strongest squad at all times which might take away your personable view of being able to give that player a break!?!
Im very proud of being from a dual club but it is very difficult to manage, nevermind getting into the financial & logistical aspects.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 19, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
The word 'disadvantage' was a poor choice!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 19, 2012, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 19, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
Why are RGU in this debate?

Large town with single code club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 05:31:30 PM
Great point HS I missed that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:01:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 19, 2012, 01:36:27 PM
Yes! I think Cargin should be winning more - but then no doubt they can viably argue that they would be only for an exceptional once in a generation Galls team.
Also, have Loughuile and Cushendall not contested the past 2 hurling finals - one code clubs!
Even if we factor in St Galls football and Dunloy hurling - these are clubs which evidently favour one code!

So yes! The results on the pitch support my argument!

Look at the leagues - Cargin are a one code club who again only have been foiled from routine league wins by the freak Galls outfit. The prominance of South/West clubs has risen also. The hurling league is routinely won by single code Loughiel followed by single codes Cushendall and hurling dominant Dunloy. Before that the last winners (I believe) were single code Portaferry!

Now there are ofcourse other examples which dont fit the rule (e.g) Downpatrick as you mention.
However I am not saying single/dual codes is the only factor. For example, Carey or Glenarriffe are single codes but will point to catchment as a mitigating factor. I've no idea about Downpatrick maybe they dont have a large football tradition or lose players to more traditional outlying clubs I dont know but I am sure someone in Downpatrick might tell us!

On the other hand look at some dual clubs like Gort, Rossa, Lamh Dearg, Sarsfields and maybe Clooney/Aghohill etc - they promote both codes equally and so are hardly standing on the steps of Casement regularly at senior level?!
In 1988 St Johns won the football (whilst having a strong hurling side) and Rossa won the hurling (while having a strong football side). This has not happened in a single year since - thats nearly a quarter of a century ago guys! And I dont see it changing anytime soon! St Johns did the double in the 60s I dont think this will ever be repeated!

In summary - I obviously know that there are many factors at play in determining a clubs success - but I think a major one is whether or not they are a dual club. And the influence of this factor has grown since the 60/70/80s when clubs could win both championships. I think it will continue to more and more apparent.

After all, Loughiel have a massive number of players and two pitches - if they were in someway forced to introduce football I bet the major objection would be (and rightly) "No - becasue it will affect hurling fortunes". Thats says it all.

To finish - single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties.
Anyone who disputes that...
Well I don't know...

Look we have played in two recent Senior Championship hurling finals, losing to Loughgiel by 3 and losing out to Cushendall by one, both years we won the senior football final, to say it can't be done is silly and while I agree If we could concentrate on the hurling we may have a chance but then again we may not. Loughgiel waited years to win one and have only recently after 18 years won two and an All Ireland to boot. So your argument of solely focusing on one goal (as  Glenarriffe do) doesn't mean you are going to win one.

Only a couple of years ago St Johns got to football final and lost a semi final in the hurling after putting up a good show in the first half against Loughgiel. So these are recent dual clubs doing well.

You used the league for some reason, ask a Cargin man where are his league medals and he'll not know. It means nothing to them. The only leagues worth winning are the ones that promote you. But you'd know that.

I'll not harp on about the dual club thing, we are a club who'll go out to try and improve hurling within our club what our footballers do has never really hampered us, the lads that play both play both have had 3 outings at Croke park in finals for their club. I'll take that as success. Anyone that thinks that's mediocrity is fooling himself.

We won Championships in football before this team came along, even managed a Ulster title and lost an all Ireland semi final by a point. Followed that by being in the Ulster final the following year losing out to Burren, now that was a great team also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on April 19, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
BlackandAmber

Havent been able to get to any of the towns first two league games.Who all have we still to come back in?

And a win for our reserves and what looks like a decent show against Ballygalget?Whats happened the reserve this year as the last game i was at the were slaughtered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 20, 2012, 06:17:12 AM
Cushendall started as a dual club, hurling eventually took over in the late 60s or early 70s . Loughgiel have attempted football on several occasions throughout the years and each time it failed due to lack of interest from perspective players, hurling won out again. Cargin's first championship was an Antrim junior hurling title in 1937, but as we all know, football won out there.

It's not as simple as "all clubs should be dual clubs". There has to be interest in it in the first place or it'll fade away no matter how hard clubs try to promote any of the two codes. The fact remains that it is not a prerequisite for clubs within the GAA to have teams playing in both codes.  Therefore, it's a null and void argument.  If a club wishes to continue as a dual club then fair play to them, but it's their choice. No point coming on here or anywhere else gurning about it. It is what it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 20, 2012, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:01:01 PM
Look we have played in two recent Senior Championship hurling finals, losing to Loughgiel by 3 and losing out to Cushendall by one, both years we won the senior football final

Run that one by me again......

semi finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2012, 09:00:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 20, 2012, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2012, 08:01:01 PM
Look we have played in two recent Senior Championship hurling finals, losing to Loughgiel by 3 and losing out to Cushendall by one, both years we won the senior football final

Run that one by me again......
Sorry, semi finals, and you knew nob head ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
Ok I can feels this debate coming to its natural conclusion - we all know where we stand.
MR2 I'm not sure playing in semi-finals constitutes success - like I said particularly when I was comparing it to the exploits of your own footballers.

But I concluding with my point in brief:

"Single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties."

Thats the crux of the point I was making and like I said I dont think it can be argued with.

So turining to other matters - did anyone hear anything about Paul Shiels and Barney McAuley being axed from the county squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 20, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
"So turining to other matters - did anyone hear anything about Paul Shiels and Barney McAuley being axed from the county squad?"

No real surprise there, Shorty could do with a rest and Dunloy need him more than ever and Barney who i rate highly, cant see who he would unseat to stay on the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
Not getting in speculating about whether they have left the panel or not but, IMHO BMcA was not of the standard the first time he was on the IC panel and i dont think the intervening years would have changed this, my personal opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 10:38:58 AM
Would have thought if Barney wasnt up to it then why call him up for a week or two?

Maybe Shorty will be back with Dunloy (who'll be delighted) and then return later if a rest is what he needs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
Ok I can feels this debate coming to its natural conclusion - we all know where we stand.
MR2 I'm not sure playing in semi-finals constitutes success - like I said particularly when I was comparing it to the exploits of your own footballers.

But I concluding with my point in brief:

"Single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties."

Thats the crux of the point I was making and like I said I dont think it can be argued with.

So turining to other matters - did anyone hear anything about Paul Shiels and Barney McAuley being axed from the county squad?

I would also conclude that it is only you that think this, any of the clubs that play hurling would want to be in our position with a chance of appearing in a final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 20, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on April 19, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
BlackandAmber

Havent been able to get to any of the towns first two league games.Who all have we still to come back in?

And a win for our reserves and what looks like a decent show against Ballygalget?Whats happened the reserve this year as the last game i was at the were slaughtered.

Me too Hurler24. I never get tomany games cos of work stuff but hopin this year to get to more with them being Sunday games.

Johnycool says Pinky was on last Sunday in Ballygalget, Hippy Matty KB McShane G Laverty S McGarry still out I think. Lots of talk about C Clarke S Jennings P Dallat coming back but all I heard was that Jenning came on as a sub v St Johns for 10 minutes.

think mebbe we got a bigger panel this year with new management gettin boys to comit a bit more and a load of young boys comin thru.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 20, 2012, 11:12:36 AM
Predictions this weekend
Dunloy V Cushendall - If Dunloy win it could be close but Cushendall could win by 8/10 points. I'll go for Cushendall
Loughgeil V Ballycran - Loughgeil by as much as they want
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST Johns drew wth the Town & the Town beat Ballygalget so St Johns to win
Portaferry V Ballycastle - I'll go for the Town specialy if Hippy is back they  went down to Ballygalget and won last week.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
Ok I can feels this debate coming to its natural conclusion - we all know where we stand.
MR2 I'm not sure playing in semi-finals constitutes success - like I said particularly when I was comparing it to the exploits of your own footballers.  But I concluding with my point in brief:

"Single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties."

Thats the crux of the point I was making and like I said I dont think it can be argued with.

So turining to other matters - did anyone hear anything about Paul Shiels and Barney McAuley being axed from the county squad?

I would also conclude that it is only you that think this, any of the clubs that play hurling would want to be in our position with a chance of appearing in a final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 20, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 20, 2012, 10:38:09 AM
Not getting in speculating about whether they have left the panel or not but, IMHO BMcA was not of the standard the first time he was on the IC panel and i dont think the intervening years would have changed this, my personal opinion.

i dissagree about barney not up to it first time round back then we where playing kilkenny and the like and he held his corner well. this time round i dont know, seems to have lost a bit a pace but thats no shame it happens to the most of them. I dont whats going on with shorty in my view if hes gone its a big loss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
NAH feel free to disagree was only my opinion, mine was based too on his club form around that time, the move from corner back probably helped him though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 20, 2012, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 20, 2012, 11:12:36 AM
Predictions this weekend
Dunloy V Cushendall - If Dunloy win it could be close but Cushendall could win by 8/10 points. I'll go for Cushendall
Loughgeil V Ballycran - Loughgeil by as much as they want
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST Johns drew wth the Town & the Town beat Ballygalget so St Johns to win
Portaferry V Ballycastle - I'll go for the Town specialy if Hippy is back they  went down to Ballygalget and won last week.

I predict Dunloy v Cushendall is the only one of these games going ahead (can't predict a winner) - rest are off due to Down's relegation game v Kildare  ;)  Looks like Johnnies v Loughgiel has also been brought forward to Saturday so they get a game this weekend.  Will go for the shams in that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
Ok I can feels this debate coming to its natural conclusion - we all know where we stand.
MR2 I'm not sure playing in semi-finals constitutes success - like I said particularly when I was comparing it to the exploits of your own footballers.  But I concluding with my point in brief:

"Single code clubs by definition can focus on one goal - they have a huge advantage over dual code clubs serving two masters and having split loyalties."

Thats the crux of the point I was making and like I said I dont think it can be argued with.

So turining to other matters - did anyone hear anything about Paul Shiels and Barney McAuley being axed from the county squad?

I would also conclude that it is only you that think this, any of the clubs that play hurling would want to be in our position with a chance of appearing in a final.

Would be impossible for any club in Ulster maybe even Ireland bar Cross to have as much success (currently) as our footballers domestically (I.E wining own county championships) , based on that success it's even more remarkable that we have done so well at the hurling, which I would deem as being successfull. Though I doubt winning them both would have you turned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2012, 05:38:40 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 20, 2012, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 20, 2012, 11:12:36 AM
Predictions this weekend
Dunloy V Cushendall - If Dunloy win it could be close but Cushendall could win by 8/10 points. I'll go for Cushendall
Loughgeil V Ballycran - Loughgeil by as much as they want
St Johns V Ballygalget - ST Johns drew wth the Town & the Town beat Ballygalget so St Johns to win
Portaferry V Ballycastle - I'll go for the Town specialy if Hippy is back they  went down to Ballygalget and won last week.

I predict Dunloy v Cushendall is the only one of these games going ahead (can't predict a winner) - rest are off due to Down's relegation game v Kildare  ;)  Looks like Johnnies v Loughgiel has also been brought forward to Saturday so they get a game this weekend.  Will go for the shams in that one!

Wicklow  ;)

We'll maybe get a fairer crack of the whip with a Meath referee than we did with Elliott and Duffy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Would like to know exact time of galls v glenariffe game on sunday, will head over 3.00pm ???????

if all the shite on the discussion board is to be believed Glensmen to take the points home with a little cushion of around 8 points to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Would like to know exact time of galls v glenariffe game on sunday, will head over 3.00pm ???????

if all the shite on the discussion board is to be believed Glensmen to take the points home with a little cushion of around 8 points to spare.

Probably win by more, we have a few players out with injury :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Would like to know exact time of galls v glenariffe game on sunday, will head over 3.00pm ???????

if all the shite on the discussion board is to be believed Glensmen to take the points home with a little cushion of around 8 points to spare.

Probably win by more, we have a few players out with injury :(

Has anyone any passes for this match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Would like to know exact time of galls v glenariffe game on sunday, will head over 3.00pm ???????

if all the shite on the discussion board is to be believed Glensmen to take the points home with a little cushion of around 8 points to spare.

Probably win by more, we have a few players out with injury :(

Has anyone any passes for this match?

Yes, it expires after 5!! Hopefully the changing rooms are open ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Would like to know exact time of galls v glenariffe game on sunday, will head over 3.00pm ???????

if all the shite on the discussion board is to be believed Glensmen to take the points home with a little cushion of around 8 points to spare.

Probably win by more, we have a few players out with injury :(

with injuries and general disorganisation / lack of training etc etc you will be lucky to field a team MR2.  your mouthing from the hill could be vital tomorrow, or will it be from the line. :P

Has anyone any passes for this match?

Yes, it expires after 5!! Hopefully the changing rooms are open ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
is the Johnnies Loughgiel matc still on at 5.30pm today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 21, 2012, 05:40:22 PM
great game on the tv there Galway v Dublin.  My congratulations to the Tribesmen.

suggestions for the league format next year :

kilkenny, waterford, tipp, cork, Galway, Clare,  section A
Dublin, Wexford, Limerick, Antrim, Offlay, Laois Section B

top 3 in a into semis with winner B making up other semi. 

last in B player winners in league below that.


for other matches possibly 4th place in section A playing 2nd place B  for change of sections.  getting a little complex here!!! Just feel they need more than 5 league games and my suggestions would provide good hurling in league into end of April / May. 

Carlow made wait another year like the limerick lads.

Tell you what you could see alot worse.

Very harsh on Dublin, league too tight this year.  For the development of hurling i would go with my own suggestion there.  If it meant a few more league games at this time of year.  Super. that was close to championship pace out there today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 21, 2012, 07:04:58 PM
St johns 1-14 Shamrocks 1-19.  good game, the johnnies  played well. we werent full strength.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 21, 2012, 07:04:58 PM
St johns 1-14 Shamrocks 1-19.  good game, the johnnies  played well. we werent full strength.

Played a bit half paced for my liking, St Johns would need to improve or face being relegated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 21, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2012, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 21, 2012, 07:04:58 PM
St johns 1-14 Shamrocks 1-19.  good game, the johnnies  played well. we werent full strength.

Played a bit half paced for my liking, St Johns would need to improve or face being relegated.
Ach yer ballix. Johnnies did most of the hurling. They played rightly.

Seriously? The full back for the Johnnies was as slow as f**k, the full forward (used to play full back) was shite, the number 6 was the size of a house and bar Barry McFaul, St Johns were dung, Loughgiel only turned it on when they needed. Does Brian ever pass the ball? though he took some scores in fairness, his penalty was never going to be stopped.

The Jonty lads came on, cracking hurlers and injected a bitta pace into the game, cause before that I thought it was slow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2012, 09:45:02 PM
What's the story with wing mc cullough hardstation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
Why has he resigned hardstation?

Doesn't sound good for your games tomorrow Lamh dearg are strong - and another defeat Rossa season over already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2012, 09:55:20 PM
I'm not Gettin this hardstation?!
Doesn't sound great tho I like your attitude!
Will be at milltown tomorro but will be interesting to hear from up the Shaws.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 22, 2012, 10:02:41 AM
Ah FFS HS, you give the county board too much credit! UC absolutely, are lads aren't in the same league, FQ, etc etc I have doubt there is a wanna be scenario though not enough brains I would think, but they auld black ball and good stock comes into play majorly i would expect, Opus dei are in the old knights are a thing of the past ;) Where has this come from, I'm intrigued ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 22, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
The Dunloy V Cushendall senior game has been moved to Cushendall and has a throw in time of 3.30pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 22, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
I do believe however some of our Referee's are within that circle mentioned, even Eucharistic ministers! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
Anybody updating the score at the dall/Dunloy game? I would have gone over but Im enjoying these pints too much.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2012, 03:43:58 PM
St galls a point up at half time, scrappy affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 04:00:17 PM
It would appear that our under age hurlers aren't that bad after all. Eh JJ?     ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 04:09:49 PM
How are your under 16s goin ? I hear your minors took a beating in the Darragh cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2012, 04:25:15 PM
Galls / oisins all square. Although most had oisins by a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 04:09:49 PM
How are your under 16s goin ? I hear your minors took a beating in the Darragh cup.
why are you chipping in? How's your seniors doing? Lol.  Our under 14s beat the dall yesterday. just a wee friendly reminder to our over the mountain contributors who, like yourself, were very quick to belittle our young fellas last week,  that we've plenty of talent coming through. You'd do well to look after your own.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2012, 04:45:02 PM
St Galls v Glenariffe was a draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 04:48:12 PM
youse do think everyones agin youse do'nt youse. I asked cos your uner 16s play ours this week I think. Youse usually have good juvenile teams and that minor score surprised me. I did'nt belittle anyone by the way. As for our seniors time will tell we'll mebbe be competin for a championship in a year or two again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
Galls game not exactly Kilkenny style hurling but so competitive and enjoyable. Bit of a dispute over scoreline I would have like extra time!
Hardstation what was the run down at ur place?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2012, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 22, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
Galls game not exactly Kilkenny style hurling but so competitive and enjoyable. Bit of a dispute over scoreline I would have like extra time!
Hardstation what was the run down at ur place?

I thought everyone had it down as a draw ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 05:07:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 04:48:12 PM
youse do think everyones agin youse do'nt youse. I asked cos your uner 16s play ours this week I think. Youse usually have good juvenile teams and that minor score surprised me. I did'nt belittle anyone by the way. As for our seniors time will tell we'll mebbe be competin for a championship in a year or two again.
you know fine well b+a. Our minors are going through a tough time atm but like every other team they give it their all. can't ask for more than that. there's a good few lads on the minors that are going to be great assets to our club at senior level. But sure, if every minor championship winning team went on to win the senior title the johnnies would have 30 senior titles by now. you can't go by that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
Any updates in the dall v Dunloy  game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2012, 05:07:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 22, 2012, 04:48:12 PM
youse do think everyones agin youse do'nt youse. I asked cos your uner 16s play ours this week I think. Youse usually have good juvenile teams and that minor score surprised me. I did'nt belittle anyone by the way. As for our seniors time will tell we'll mebbe be competin for a championship in a year or two again.
you know fine well b+a. Our minors are going through a tough time atm but like every other team they give it their all. can't ask for more than that. there's a good few lads on the minors that are going to be great assets to our club at senior level. But sure, if every minor championship winning team went on to win the senior title the johnnies would have 30 senior titles by now. you can't go by that.

I do'nt know what you think I know fine well. I do'nt know about your under 16s that's why I asked and I did'nt know about your minors that's why I was surprised. What you say about teams giving it their all I agree with they all cant be allstars. The best you can ask is they do there best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 22, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
We won by 2-13 to 0-7 I think it was. Good tight game. Goals came at good times. A sending of for Dunloy (Powder I think the fella was called, verbal abuse to the ref, no one really sure about it or not) and Aidan McNaughton who was hurling well for us with two yellows in 2 minutes not long after the Dunloy red
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 22, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
The Glenariffe galls game ruined a bit by the referee.

At least we are home with a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
Talkin to couple hannahstown men so excuse the slant hardstation.

Lambs didn't get going 1st half but got goals in 2nd half?
Micko man of the match - Rossa still too reliant on few players.

I agree ref at milltown wasn't great but I think that is standard unfortunately. Bad decisions are one thing but the lack of any consistency is frustrating for both spectators and players.
Think draw fair enough in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 22, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
Despite the scoreline the Dunloy Cushendall game was fairly competitive, moved to the Dall because Dunloys pitch was waterlogged the first half was keenly contested, dunloy missed a few goal chances and cushendall missed a penalty, but as the game wore on it became evident the Dall were much more clinical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
Galls v oisins, those who had pen and paper had oisins by  a point and those without had a draw. In fairness a difficult game to keep score as some easy frees were missed and you weren't sure what was given. Although both teams will be happy to share spoils. Very niggly affair and was close to getting outta hand at stages via handbags. Ref didn't do himself any favours with hop balls. At the same time some smashing long ranges scores from both and very intense hurling with no great flair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 22, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
I biggest problem was the amount of yellow cards handed out. He lost control and decided to book everyone. He gave a yellow card for a hard sholder tackle.

The galls have an organised side Line for a team without a manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
New manager ratified midweek, FairPlay to him as no one else stepped up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 06:46:05 PM
glad i headed over to the game, was on ill bred hill with the true blues.  lot of home supporters felt the glens men  edged it on score sheet, however about the only thing they were happy with the ref about.  as a neutral thoroughly enjoyed it.  seemed to be alot of strange and certainly contested decisions.  also free nearly won it at the end.  Referee ended up doing umpire job as well due to neither umpires or linesmen seemingly able to rule against their own team.

felt stewart and tosh influence seem to be on the wane.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
Well, as I thought the game was going to be tight, as for the scoreline draw not a draw, was a draw by me.

On that performance the league should go down to the wire, Sarsfields win again so are top. Gorts as i said have lost the plot with players not turning out for them.

For patches in the game we played decent hurling but should have created more scores, missed 4 easy frees, 2 straight in front of the posts.

Saff, Karl is injured and really should not have played, but played on, as for him being on the wane shows you know nothing about hurling.

Glenariffe traveled well for a change and caught us early with two goals that were sent in high and we didn't deal with, those are the breaks. Hugh could have sent off a right few players if truth be told but I'll not referee bash, these things have a way of evening out over the season.

The umpire for Glenariffe nearly won it for them at the end ;).

Carey on wed night so hopefully we don't have too many lads out injured from today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 22, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 22, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
Despite the scoreline the Dunloy Cushendall game was fairly competitive, moved to the Dall because Dunloys pitch was waterlogged the first half was keenly contested, dunloy missed a few goal chances and cushendall missed a penalty, but as the game wore on it became evident the Dall were much more clinical.

Paddy Richmond always causes a fair bit of havoc when the ball goes in around the square but I thought we done well to smother him. There was the odd pushing and shoving match but no more than you would imagine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 22, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Hugh showed a lack of courage today IMO. How can you just book someone for deliberate striking?. Oisins lucky to finish with 15. Always guaranteed a game of hard hurling but today was just dirt, really surprised me. Someone could have been seriously hurt and referees need to be stronger and stamp this out quicker. Some good hurling from both teams but spoilt by the dirt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 22, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Hugh showed a lack of courage today IMO. How can you just book someone for deliberate striking?. Oisins lucky to finish with 15. Always guaranteed a game of hard hurling but today was just dirt, really surprised me. Someone could have been seriously hurt and referees need to be stronger and stamp this out quicker. Some good hurling from both teams but spoilt by the dirt.

Were you even at the match ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 22, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Hugh showed a lack of courage today IMO. How can you just book someone for deliberate striking?. Oisins lucky to finish with 15. Always guaranteed a game of hard hurling but today was just dirt, really surprised me. Someone could have been seriously hurt and referees need to be stronger and stamp this out quicker. Some good hurling from both teams but spoilt by the dirt.

Were you even at the match ?

They finished with 14 manballandall :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 22, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
No, just made that made up minder.
Stand corrected MR, should have happened a lot sooner just and maybe 1 or 2 more following him. Just my opinion obviously
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
Well, as I thought the game was going to be tight, as for the scoreline draw not a draw, was a draw by me.

On that performance the league should go down to the wire, Sarsfields win again so are top. Gorts as i said have lost the plot with players not turning out for them.

For patches in the game we played decent hurling but should have created more scores, missed 4 easy frees, 2 straight in front of the posts.

Saff, Karl is injured and really should not have played, but played on, as for him being on the wane shows you know nothing about hurling.

Glenariffe traveled well for a change and caught us early with two goals that were sent in high and we didn't deal with, those are the breaks. Hugh could have sent off a right few players if truth be told but I'll not referee bash, these things have a way of evening out over the season.

The umpire for Glenariffe nearly won it for them at the end ;).

Carey on wed night so hopefully we don't have too many lads out injured from today.

well then due to his injury he was on wane.  Look at his second half, apart from a free he was well below par.  Could be due to injury but he was, his last county outing would also back my opinion up.  Only my opinion of course MR2, and it goes without saying it you have the last say and know everything.  After all you did start the thread  :P.  As for ref, Hugh was up against it as well as being a little soft.  i think both teams very lucky there wasn't a few more red cards.  Galls men certainly no angels.  Young McCourty should of had about 4 yellow cards. 

all in all very enjoyable.  a scoreboard would be the next thing club requires, now that they have a couple of managers i saw on the far side.  maybe they were just very vocal subs :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 22, 2012, 08:12:25 PM
No, just made that made up minder.
Stand corrected MR, should have happened a lot sooner just and maybe 1 or 2 more following him. Just my opinion obviously

CJ McGourty being one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
Well, as I thought the game was going to be tight, as for the scoreline draw not a draw, was a draw by me.

On that performance the league should go down to the wire, Sarsfields win again so are top. Gorts as i said have lost the plot with players not turning out for them.

For patches in the game we played decent hurling but should have created more scores, missed 4 easy frees, 2 straight in front of the posts.

Saff, Karl is injured and really should not have played, but played on, as for him being on the wane shows you know nothing about hurling.

Glenariffe traveled well for a change and caught us early with two goals that were sent in high and we didn't deal with, those are the breaks. Hugh could have sent off a right few players if truth be told but I'll not referee bash, these things have a way of evening out over the season.

The umpire for Glenariffe nearly won it for them at the end ;).

Carey on wed night so hopefully we don't have too many lads out injured from today.

well then due to his injury he was on wane.  Look at his second half, apart from a free he was well below par.  Could be due to injury but he was, his last county outing would also back my opinion up.  Only my opinion of course MR2, and it goes without saying it you have the last say and know everything.  After all you did start the thread  :P.  As for ref, Hugh was up against it as well as being a little soft.  i think both teams very lucky there wasn't a few more red cards.  Galls men certainly no angels.  Young McCourty should of had about 4 yellow cards. 

all in all very enjoyable. a scoreboard would be the next thing club requires, now that they have a couple of managers i saw on the far side.  maybe they were just very vocal subs :P

If you can't count up to 16 then you have problems, as for on the wane and being injured, two seperate things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
just a suggestion MR2 to improve your club.  consultation fee not required.  What i would say is two excellent pitches.  based on todays game i would head up the glens for the other league game featuring these 2 clubs.  Think it would be fair to say the winner of which could go up, assuming the Galls aren't too badly effected by the big ball throughout the league. 

Is it true that the club advertised for 2 managers football and hurling?  does this mean expenses are also provided?????

no sign of recession just yet with the Galls men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
just a suggestion MR2 to improve your club.  consultation fee not required.  What i would say is two excellent pitches.  based on todays game i would head up the glens for the other league game featuring these 2 clubs.  Think it would be fair to say the winner of which could go up, assuming the Galls aren't too badly effected by the big ball throughout the league. 

Is it true that the club advertised for 2 managers football and hurling?  does this mean expenses are also provided?????

no sign of recession just yet with the Galls men.

We pay 80 quid a session, free fuel for the year and free subscription to thompson garage!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 22, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
Has Mr eastwood been abducted by one of these sects
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 22, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 22, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
just a suggestion MR2 to improve your club.  consultation fee not required.  What i would say is two excellent pitches.  based on todays game i would head up the glens for the other league game featuring these 2 clubs.  Think it would be fair to say the winner of which could go up, assuming the Galls aren't too badly effected by the big ball throughout the league. 

Is it true that the club advertised for 2 managers football and hurling?  does this mean expenses are also provided?????

no sign of recession just yet with the Galls men.

We pay 80 quid a session, free fuel for the year and free subscription to thompson garage!!
Seriously Milltown man, are St.Galls still without a hurling manager? As a neutral observer, it did not look like it today at Milltown, the boys on the line appeared to be well in control of things.  Have to say also, your lads hurled fairly well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
Myself and mr2 have been at odds before over him running down galls - mind games on an Internet forum are futile! Let's just say milltown was well organised today.
As a neutral watching I can see both sides if the argument here - Torney was terrible but I think he was bad for both sides and a draw was a fair result. Dare I mention dual club status but I think it will cost galls promotion. Oisins to go up by virtue of making less mistakes. One thing I have to say is karl was obviously not at full pelt - normally he would be the best player in this league.

Hardstation had a word (pint) with few of ur guys players & non-players seems like u thru match away. 2goals getting scored (same player) while 8 given away mostly soft.  I think ur young talent are struggling with senior hurling - skill not enough alone when still relying on oul hands to drive game. But fair play to dearg maybe if paddy hands comes on board they can take more points.

A final point - sarsfields top the table! Well done the paddies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 23, 2012, 08:32:57 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 22, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 22, 2012, 12:23:25 AM
Next point of discussion and I'm only putting it out there........

......our county board and the Knights of Saint Columbanus.

There was a boy who came on this board a while back who tried to stir up a lot of shit although he appeared to be in the know on a number of things. He had the Knights of Saint Columbanus crest as his avatar.

Since then I have learned that a high number of our county board officials are indeed in this exclusive club of ballbags.

What's the craic with that?
HS, you'd be surprised how many of the powers that be at Casement are attached to the sinister inner circle you allude to. It has been said and a well established fact, for some positions in the county you have to be a member of 'the Knights'. McSp****n, M****y,O'****, G****, et al, to name but a few, are among the long established brothers.  It is also a prerequisite to becoming county Chairman. Truth has it, quite a number of our officials  partake in the goings on in such a sinister organisation, but many of them are only there as a means of attempting to build a holier than now reputation for themselves, following serious earlier misdemeanors.  I wouldn't worry about it at all though! - like child abusing priests, they will eventually be outed and exposed.

El Pato

That post is in serious bad taste and the insinuations on it are what get genuine posters on here a bad name, we could seriously do without this type of BS posting.

This is a gaa forum and that type of Sunday World crap has no place here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 23, 2012, 09:33:26 AM
here here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 09:35:44 AM
It appears someone is spouting the same crap on the county guestbook
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 23, 2012, 08:32:57 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 22, 2012, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 22, 2012, 12:23:25 AM
Next point of discussion and I'm only putting it out there........

......our county board and the Knights of Saint Columbanus.

There was a boy who came on this board a while back who tried to stir up a lot of shit although he appeared to be in the know on a number of things. He had the Knights of Saint Columbanus crest as his avatar.

Since then I have learned that a high number of our county board officials are indeed in this exclusive club of ballbags.

What's the craic with that?
HS, you'd be surprised how many of the powers that be at Casement are attached to the sinister inner circle you allude to. It has been said and a well established fact, for some positions in the county you have to be a member of 'the Knights'. McSp****n, M****y,O'****, G****, et al, to name but a few, are among the long established brothers.  It is also a prerequisite to becoming county Chairman. Truth has it, quite a number of our officials  partake in the goings on in such a sinister organisation, but many of them are only there as a means of attempting to build a holier than now reputation for themselves, following serious earlier misdemeanors.  I wouldn't worry about it at all though! - like child abusing priests, they will eventually be outed and exposed.

El Pato

That post is in serious bad taste and the insinuations on it are what get genuine posters on here a bad name, we could seriously do without this type of BS posting.

This is a gaa forum and that type of Sunday World crap has no place here.

What is sinister about the Knights? El Pato I think naming people on here is out of order while you yourself hide behind your alias
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 23, 2012, 09:57:14 AM
Someone having a laugh on the County Website at my expense, ha, ha, ha  :D (The Duck) Quack Quack Quack 

Now I wonder, must likely touched a central nerve as a result of close affiliation? 

Millltown Man, like you I am also entitled to use an 'Alias'  ;)

NAG1, thank goodness there is not an NAG2  ;) I was just commenting on HS posting, also just giving an insight into what the dogs on the street know.  And yes, I did say sinister, if you only knew some of the Hippocratic fools that I know who are members of the said Sinister secretive sect, you would be very shocked  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 23, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 23, 2012, 09:57:14 AM
Someone having a laugh on the County Website at my expense, ha, ha, ha  :D (The Duck) Quack Quack Quack 

Now I wonder, must likely touched a central nerve as a result of close affiliation? 

Millltown Man, like you I am also entitled to use an 'Alias'  ;)

NAG1, thank goodness there is not an NAG2  ;) I was just commenting on HS posting, also just giving an insight into what the dogs on the street know.  And yes, I did say sinister, if you only knew some of the Hippocratic fools that I know who are members of the said Sinister secretive sect, you would be very shocked  :o :o :o :o

I dont care whether you were repeating what someone else said or what the dogs in the street know, you mentioned named and then when on to use some serious quasi allegations, there is no room for that on here and I would ask that you take down both posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2012, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 23, 2012, 09:57:14 AM
Someone having a laugh on the County Website at my expense, ha, ha, ha  :D (The Duck) Quack Quack Quack 

Now I wonder, must likely touched a central nerve as a result of close affiliation? 

Millltown Man, like you I am also entitled to use an 'Alias'  ;)

NAG1, thank goodness there is not an NAG2  ;) I was just commenting on HS posting, also just giving an insight into what the dogs on the street know.  And yes, I did say sinister, if you only knew some of the Hippocratic fools that I know who are members of the said Sinister secretive sect, you would be very shocked  :o :o :o :o

Again you haven't answered what is sinister about them? You don't have to go far to find Hippocratic fools, logging in on here recently and you'll find plenty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
Meanwhile back at the ranch...

Was the Johnnies result a good one - considering they were playing all ireland champs?

What about the news that the ROSSA boss stepped down over fundraising? (smoke screen perhaps?)

Did Galls miss an opportunity yesterday, to take all the points?

Have Gort fallin to pieces? (no way Sarsfields should be scoring that against them, up there)

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 11:03:10 AM
Did you not make it to any games yourself deary me and have no thoughts yourself?
Think st galls will rue the scoreable frees they missed. Sarsfields fancy themselves to get promoted or to be at least challenging at business end of the season so no real surprise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Maybe the Ex Rossa manager is in the Knights of Columbanus!
I heard a few things about the situation there - not good. But rather not post rumour of that type on the forum - I sent u a PM Hardstation.
I wasnt at the game but from various sources Rossa managed to throw away a win yesterday with conceding soft goals. Just looking at their two scorelines say it all.

Shamrocks were missing alot of players and won without pushing themselves its seems but yes a decent result for the Johnnies.

Gort are having internal diifculties having takin discipline action against some players it is affecting results - but credit to Sarsfields that a great start and a serious score to put up.

Would have like to see a galls victory yesterday as I think the draw will be enough for Oisins the league looks theirs to lose already. With trouble elsewhere only Galls look like pushing them but at the risk of sounding like a broken record Mr2 boys will drop points once the big ball bounces on the wee ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 23, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 23, 2012, 10:17:45 AM
Seems like it has been going on a while

http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/3485 (http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/3485)

Antrim GAA Board pull a fast one

Speaking exclusively to An Phoblacht, a senior County Antrim committee member has exposed the attempts of the County Antrim GAA Board to stifle debate about dropping Rule 21 (which bars members of the crown forces from the GAA).

It appears that the Ulster GAA executive has reneged on its decision to allow grassroots club members to decide what direction their County Boards would take at the extraordinary GAA conference on 30 May which will vote on the issue.

The Antrim controversy surrounds three moves. Firstly, at a meeting in Ballycastle last Tuesday, GAA official Joe O'Boyle over-ruled an association by-law in ruling that the vote should be taken by secret ballot, normally reserved for the election of GAA officials.

Secondly, members and club officials have been warned not to talk to the media, under threat of suspension. As one GAA member pointed out, this is contrary to the actions of GAA president Joe McDonagh who has actively courted the media.

But the most serious and undemocratic move by the Antrim Board is the distribution of 18 votes to the three Antrim divisional boards. This means that only a few clubs will have to support the Antrim executive for it to claim a mandate for scrapping Rule 21, effectively silencing any opposition.

The GAA club official expressed concerns not only about the influence of the four Knights of Columbanus on the Antrim County Board, but also at the comments of a senior Board official who told him that Rule 21 was as good as gone.

The GAA source said that rather than a decision coming from the grassroots, as the executive had promised, a decision would come from the top. He added, ``the executive have failed to take the time to consult the people on the ground.'' The committed GAA man said he suspected that the move to drop Rule 21 was being influenced by financial considerations. He simply asked, ``what price is your soul?''
See what I mean, even An Phoblacht know, and talking about Sinister and Hipocritical  ;)  No names HS, no names, you don't know who is watching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
Broken record. You? No!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2012, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
Broken record. You? No!

I know but sometimes even my points are valid - and its a slow day in work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 23, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 23, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 23, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Maybe the Ex Rossa manager is in the Knights of Columbanus!
I heard a few things about the situation there - not good. But rather not post rumour of that type on the forum - I sent u a PM Hardstation.
I wasnt at the game but from various sources Rossa managed to throw away a win yesterday with conceding soft goals. Just looking at their two scorelines say it all.
You could be right but I've no idea.

As for the game, we did throw it away alright. Lamh Dhearg went down to 14 when big Joe Doon pulled a horrendous, dirty stroke. We were ahead then with about 5 minutes to go and really should have seen it out. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg though, they kept going. We are leaking some goals alright and our backs would be stronger hurlers than out forwards. Kettle and Eoghan missing out of the backs yesterday though.

The knights of columbanus. WTF is this all about. Is this some sort of free mason equivalent of the county antrim board. I thought you guys where joking now I'm not sure pleased tell me this is a wum. I'm having visions here of inauguration ceremonies in some forest with helmet and swords and maybe a secret steer brand burnt into there butts. whats the purpose of this secret society, just a control freak thing or financial gain. it all sounds very Monty python from where I'm sitting. maybe they just want a shrubbery........... run away run away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 23, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 23, 2012, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 23, 2012, 11:05:42 AM
Maybe the Ex Rossa manager is in the Knights of Columbanus!
I heard a few things about the situation there - not good. But rather not post rumour of that type on the forum - I sent u a PM Hardstation.
I wasnt at the game but from various sources Rossa managed to throw away a win yesterday with conceding soft goals. Just looking at their two scorelines say it all.
You could be right but I've no idea.

As for the game, we did throw it away alright. Lamh Dhearg went down to 14 when big Joe Doon pulled a horrendous, dirty stroke. We were ahead then with about 5 minutes to go and really should have seen it out. Fair play to Lamh Dhearg though, they kept going. We are leaking some goals alright and our backs would be stronger hurlers than out forwards. Kettle and Eoghan missing out of the backs yesterday though.

The knights of columbanus. WTF is this all about. Is this some sort of free mason equivalent of the county antrim board. I thought you guys where joking now I'm not sure pleased tell me this is a wum. I'm having visions here of inauguration ceremonies in some forest with helmet and swords and maybe a secret steer brand burnt into there butts. whats the purpose of this secret society, just a control freak thing or financial gain. it all sounds very Monty python from where I'm sitting. maybe they just want a shrubbery........... run away run away

I dont think I would care if they were devil worshippers as long as the county is ran right and the Hurlers and Footballers do well

We have managers in place casement is being redeveloped does anyone really care
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 23, 2012, 12:50:45 PM
Don't know about the knights of Columbanus and the power they yield in Antrim but I have noticed that since we've got fulltime secretaries in place in each county board that the powers that be in Croke park control everything now. There is no real democracy within the GAA now, not that there was a lot in the first place.

Look how quick Duffy (the Croke park one) got the Armagh/Laois issue 'sorted'? Armagh were brought to heel very quickly, granted the overturning of the centre backs suspension sweetened the deal. There was no talking about the queens visit, all rosey in the garden.

That to me is a bit disturbing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 23, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e2kaQqxmQ0
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 23, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Ruairi Og 2013 Dunloy 0-7. Anyone actually want to discuss the biggest game of the weekend? Rather than the drivel about knights of dung?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 23, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
What did you make of it then JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 23, 2012, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 23, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Ruairi Og 2013 Dunloy 0-7. Anyone actually want to discuss the biggest game of the weekend? Rather than the drivel about knights of dung?

yeah Jesus i was at the match. no arguing with the result.we changed our fullback line from loughgeil match and got opened up for the goals. apart from that we kept giving away silly frees for MC manus and Shane to pop over. need to get our discipline sorted. in possession by the time we got ball in the place was crowed with defenders. cushendall defence as good as ever I thought delargy was M O M. we wasted to much from play and placed balls. Cushendall looking Good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 23, 2012, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2012, 12:50:45 PM
Don't know about the knights of Columbanus and the power they yield in Antrim but I have noticed that since we've got fulltime secretaries in place in each county board that the powers that be in Croke park control everything now. There is no real democracy within the GAA now, not that there was a lot in the first place.

Look how quick Duffy (the Croke park one) got the Armagh/Laois issue 'sorted'? Armagh were brought to heel very quickly, granted the overturning of the centre backs suspension sweetened the deal. There was no talking about the queens visit, all rosey in the garden.

That to me is a bit disturbing.

There related you know, both of them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 11:03:10 AM
Did you not make it to any games yourself deary me and have no thoughts yourself?
Think st galls will rue the scoreable frees they missed. Sarsfields fancy themselves to get promoted or to be at least challenging at business end of the season so no real surprise

Is this a wind up?

3 point win against Whitehill and a victory against a distraught Gort - Promotion???

All for seeing them do well - but delusions of grandeur???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
They probably will - thats a must win for you HS!  I would begin to fear the worst if you lose that!
But its a derby , so they will be MAD up for it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 23, 2012, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 23, 2012, 01:30:20 PM
Ruairi Og 2013 Dunloy 0-7. Anyone actually want to discuss the biggest game of the weekend? Rather than the drivel about knights of dung?
jj use beat them by 2006 points!!   Brave scoring ;D.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?

From what i hear, the ref nearly lost control, Glenariffe just the one sent off ??? 
This was always going to be a fierce encounter given both would see each other as biggest rival for promotion.
My source tells me it was more lost by galls than won by Glen!
Maybe MR2 could shed some light - reckon he was prob at it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?

From what i hear, the ref nearly lost control, Glenariffe just the one sent off ??? 
This was always going to be a fierce encounter given both would see each other as biggest rival for promotion.
My source tells me it was more lost by galls than won by Glen!
Maybe MR2 could shed some light - reckon he was prob at it ;)

We missed a free at the end to win it

St Galls missed 3 or 4 easy frees which could have won it.

I would say the ref lost control of the game and the players on both sides seemed to think they could get away with some heavy hits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 23, 2012, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?

From what i hear, the ref nearly lost control, Glenariffe just the one sent off ??? 
This was always going to be a fierce encounter given both would see each other as biggest rival for promotion.
My source tells me it was more lost by galls than won by Glen!
Maybe MR2 could shed some light - reckon he was prob at it ;)

He was poor but I don't think he "nearly lost control", its not as if there were running battles. Both teams were highly motivated and nobody was stepping back, but there was no bloodbath. Our boys would be happy enough with a draw after playing the last 10+ minutes with 14 men.

I also don't think it is going to be a procession for either us or St Galls, neither team is head and shoulders above anyone else and there isn't a big gap between us, St Galls, Rossa or Lamh Dhearg. Sarsfields have started well but they were two handy fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2012, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?

I'm not getting involved with this, we have Glenariffe at the end of June so it will provide a better picture of where we are at.

But I must say, in all my years of playing against Glenariffe, going back to 88 till only recently, when I managed 2 goals ;) I've never seen Glenariffe play so robust. Very evident early on that there was to be no clean catches and to draw the ball and pick up the pieces. The problem with that is that sometimes they can be mis timed causing confrontations, that's what happened yesterday. Some off the ball stuff but happens in most games.

Glenariffe seemed more happy than us to take the point and are intent on going up this year. Our target is to have a good league campaign before Cushendall. They are motoring along rightly and its early doors. The Ulster league final at Casement this Saturday night should provide neutrals with how training is really going when the Dall play the All Ireland champions.

If Glenariffe play the same robust way on Wed night I'll expect a few yellow and red cards. Lamhs will pull like fook. Good luck refereeing that one :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?
Do we have to go over this again Minder ? Do you really think im making this up ?
Arthur as you well notice my username has the word "ball" in it...didnt see too many oisins looking for a ball yesterday...just my opinion obviously
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
Who got the line in the St Galls v Glenariffe game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 23, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
Who got the line in the St Galls v Glenariffe game?

Seamus Doherty, two yellows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?
Do we have to go over this again Minder ? Do you really think im making this up ?
Arthur as you well notice my username has the word "ball" in it...didnt see too many oisins looking for a ball yesterday...just my opinion obviously

Are you sure you were at the game.

If you say that about some of our players the same can be said for a few of yours.

Some of the challanges with mistimed including Docs second yellow card. I can only think of one dirty stroke and that was by one of our own players in the first half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
Lads for Christs sake give Hugh a break, we cant get Referee's at the minute, and EH has jacked it in as far as antrim is concerned over the Dunloy v Shams game! he's an excellent ref and a big loss to us here, too few hurling refs around, herbie I hear is out for the season also, Jesus be thankful you have somebody there at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
Torney was not great but the players didn't help either. Fine line between what hard pull and reckless. I think that's why southerners use their bodies much more in tackle it takes that whole element out.
Mibag I understand ur point but I watch more div2 games than div1 and outside of the few good'uns unfortunately the standard of refs is poor it's just a fact. But then again complaining from the hill is easy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 23, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
Lads for Christs sake give Hugh a break, we cant get Referee's at the minute, and EH has jacked it in as far as antrim is concerned over the Dunloy v Shams game! he's an excellent ref and a big loss to us here, too few hurling refs around, herbie I hear is out for the season also, Jesus be thankful you have somebody there at all.

Is this true? Eamon is a great ref and among a group of very good referee's we've had for the last few years, would be a big loss. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?
Do we have to go over this again Minder ? Do you really think im making this up ?
Arthur as you well notice my username has the word "ball" in it...didnt see too many oisins looking for a ball yesterday...just my opinion obviously

Are you sure you were at the game.

If you say that about some of our players the same can be said for a few of yours.

Some of the challanges with mistimed including Docs second yellow card. I can only think of one dirty stroke and that was by one of our own players in the first half

I can only call it as I see it. If hugh had nipped it in the bud in the first half it would have made for a better game. Only so much a team can take before they have to react. The marks on players calf muscles when the ball was on the ground or on their shoulders when their arms were at full stretch in the air catching balls only came from late and high strokes. I actually thought that had been left behind us. Took me back to watching mc dermotts play south antrim hurling.$ not good. Destroying a potentially good side as oisins have some decent hurlers with good stickwork
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 08:38:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: oisinog on April 23, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 23, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 23, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 01:39:39 PM
Biggest game of the weekend ended in a draw in milltown. Some strokes bordering on assault. When did the glens men become hard men?

Interesting comment given your username  ;)

Both sides were at it...take the blinkers off.

manballandall - Are you certain you were at the game?
Do we have to go over this again Minder ? Do you really think im making this up ?
Arthur as you well notice my username has the word "ball" in it...didnt see too many oisins looking for a ball yesterday...just my opinion obviously

Are you sure you were at the game.

If you say that about some of our players the same can be said for a few of yours.

Some of the challanges with mistimed including Docs second yellow card. I can only think of one dirty stroke and that was by one of our own players in the first half

I can only call it as I see it. If hugh had nipped it in the bud in the first half it would have made for a better game. Only so much a team can take before they have to react. The marks on players calf muscles when the ball was on the ground or on their shoulders when their arms were at full stretch in the air catching balls only came from late and high strokes. I actually thought that had been left behind us. Took me back to watching mc dermotts play south antrim hurling.$ not good. Destroying a potentially good side as oisins have some decent hurlers with good stickwork

It would be interesting to see if your clubmates agree with you.

I don't think anyone would disagree with you that if Hugh had stamped a bit more authority on the game we wouldn't be discussing the intensity of the game.

The game is over it was a hard game for both teams a draw was a good result for both clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
SIE- Any reports from the tour to Crossmaglen? You know, the day your boys took the cup down to celebrate with fellow gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 23, 2012, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
SIE- Any reports from the tour to Crossmaglen? You know, the day your boys took the cup down to celebrate with fellow gaels.

christ that would be a good one, the shams however might find the cross celebrations are not as prolonged as the majority of all ireland winners.  It tends to be more common down there.  I can see some of the lads getting pissed and thinking they are in the RA :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 09:01:34 PM
Saffron 89- From what I hear it was a very 'interesting', encounter. Will give SIE an opporunity to comment before I put the record straight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 23, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
lads going on a bit about the galls v glenariffe game.

it wasn't too bad. A few slaps here and there, and like i have stated before, both teams could have been down more.

the end of june however if thats when its on, might be worth a visit to the sunny north coast.

felt if Galls had of moved the ball quicker and less of the short passing they might have been harder to work with.

Was standing close enough to Sean McCourty (would he not have been interested in a managerial position).

Guessing Aidan Hamill waiting in the wings for the Rossa post.  Never going to take the job, however he always ends up doing it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2012, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 09:01:34 PM
Saffron 89- From what I hear it was a very 'interesting', encounter. Will give SIE an opporunity to comment before I put the record straight.
I know nothing about it. But I'm sure you cant wait to dish out the dirt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
Did you not ask him saff? Maybe him and you together with your knowledge could make a dream team. Be a shame for you, for us all, not to pass on your wealth of knowledge even if you do find it hard to voice your opinion:). A bar fly maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 23, 2012, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
Lads for Christs sake give Hugh a break, we cant get Referee's at the minute, and EH has jacked it in as far as antrim is concerned over the Dunloy v Shams game! he's an excellent ref and a big loss to us here, too few hurling refs around, herbie I hear is out for the season also, Jesus be thankful you have somebody there at all.
So Elliott likely to get the odd game here and there this year with EH and McAuley out of the pack.  Looks like the county final will be heading Cunnings/Duffys way, assuming Dunloy don't reach it of course?  Not too many left to chose from  ;)

But then there is always ManInBlackandGreen or (possibly navy and green), but does he have the appropriate credentials, hhhmmm  :-\  Jurys out  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 23, 2012, 10:21:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
Did you not ask him saff? Maybe him and you together with your knowledge could make a dream team. Be a shame for you, for us all, not to pass on your wealth of knowledge even if you do find it hard to voice your opinion:). A bar fly maybe?

why thankyou for the massive vote of confidence manball.  great to finally  get the st galls men away from crying about all the slaps they got.  If i was looking a selector to go with me i would certainly consider you.  possibly in picking up the orange peel at half time. 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Really bad craic when disgruntled club men come on and run down their club. Childish really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
Crying?. As I said earlier I can only call it as I see it. You're not another one who thinks no one elses opinion matters unless of course it agrees with yours. The days of teams eating oranges at half time, ha ha. Showing your age there saff. I'd say ur oranges would be a bit sour going by ur posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Irish news piece with JW says Antrim are down two loughgiel players. Barney and Johnny I take it SIE if rumours are to be believed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Irish news piece with JW says Antrim are down two loughgiel players. Barney and Johnny I take it SIE if rumours are to be believed?
I don't know about Barney, colonel, but Johnny definitely out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 23, 2012, 10:21:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
Did you not ask him saff? Maybe him and you together with your knowledge could make a dream team. Be a shame for you, for us all, not to pass on your wealth of knowledge even if you do find it hard to voice your opinion:). A bar fly maybe?

why thankyou for the massive vote of confidence manball.  great to finally  get the st galls men away from crying about all the slaps they got.  If i was looking a selector to go with me i would certainly consider you.  possibly in picking up the orange peel at half time. 8)

Probably the oranges were crap considering where he got them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
Did I miss something MR? Who was running their club down? Colonel, going by previous posts I believe JC has retired from IC and barney was dropped? . I could be wrong though. SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Irish news piece with JW says Antrim are down two loughgiel players. Barney and Johnny I take it SIE if rumours are to be believed?
I don't know about Barney, colonel, but Johnny definitely out.

I knew about JC. Only other player I would think other than barney leaving would be Chrissy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2012, 10:56:08 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 23, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Irish news piece with JW says Antrim are down two loughgiel players. Barney and Johnny I take it SIE if rumours are to be believed?
I don't know about Barney, colonel, but Johnny definitely out.

I knew about JC. Only other player I would think other than barney leaving would be Chrissy?
I can't see Chrissy leaving anytime soon. Probably is Barney.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 24, 2012, 08:15:26 AM
There would be school of thought o'connell not far of no 1 for club and county.  Have to admire the guy for effort and often doesn't get enough game time.  Is he no 2 or mctoal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 24, 2012, 08:52:28 AM
Quote from: saffronog on April 24, 2012, 08:15:26 AM
There would be school of thought o'connell not far of no 1 for club and county.  Have to admire the guy for effort and often doesn't get enough game time.  Is he no 2 or mctoal
Yeah about 2/3 years for the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2012, 08:58:32 AM
Sure he gets plenty of games for their reserves and they are the second best team in the county anyway  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 24, 2012, 02:58:58 PM
Joey Scullion is the other one.

Hippy a doubt for the Championship opener. Would hope to progress past Westmeath regardless. Who would we have to play at full back that is in the current squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
Is Neilly McGarry likely to get a call now for Hippy then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2012, 08:58:32 AM
Sure he gets plenty of games for their reserves and they are the second best team in the county anyway  ;D

Standing talking to the umpires more like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2012, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2012, 08:58:32 AM
Sure he gets plenty of games for their reserves and they are the second best team in the county anyway  ;D

Standing talking to the umpires more like.

Didnt say action JC said games  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 24, 2012, 09:20:16 PM

Quote from: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 09:01:34 PM

Saffron 89- From what I hear it was a very 'interesting', encounter. Will give SIE an opporunity to comment before I put the record straight.



"I know nothing about it. But I'm sure you cant wait to dish out the dirt"


SIE- Lets just say your party didn't leave Cross with their reputation enhanced. Hope they don't think that we are all like that in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
Can't believe that Loughgiel were beat tonight in the Ulster semi final, unreal, Ballycran are the worst of the bunch down there, the team Loughgiel had out on Saturday would have been good enough for Ballycran. Beat by 5.

Would it be a case that they didn't wish to see Cushendall too early or are Ballycran the best team in Ireland? I have my suspicions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 24, 2012, 10:44:01 PM
Ballycran are a lot better than Portaferry & probably better than Ballygalget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:49:44 PM
I can only go on current form, Ballycran, played two lost two!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 24, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Loughgiel only half a team out and a lot of reserves playing. JC, MS, RMcC, James C  omitted from the team.  Ballycran were quite dirty in the tackle and off the ball.  Bloody disgraceful show by Ulster Council - no lines men, no score board, no First Aid or doctor  >:(. Loughgeil could have won the game even though they were under power.  I get a sense the lads need a rest and this defeat will do them no harm at all.  I would suspect The Dall will be dissapointed at not getting a rub at the Shamrocks on Saturday evening in the final.  A break and rest for these Loughgeil lads will do them no harm at all, if you ask me.  I have the feeling they have bigger fish to fry come championship.  Typical the way Ulster treat hurling though, shower of Fuk-Hirs  ;)  Bet most of you great hurling people in Antrim were watching the hanky ball on TV, another feckin disgrace  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 24, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Loughgiel only half a team out and a lot of reserves playing. JC, MS, RMcC, James C  omitted from the team.  Ballycran were quite dirty in the tackle and off the ball.  Bloody disgraceful show by Ulster Council - no lines men, no score board, no First Aid or doctor  >:(. Loughgeil could have won the game even though they were under power.  I get a sense the lads need a rest and this defeat will do them no harm at all.  I would suspect The Dall will be dissapointed at not getting a rub at the Shamrocks on Saturday evening in the final.  A break and rest for these Loughgeil lads will do them no harm at all, if you ask me.  I have the feeling they have bigger fish to fry come championship.  Typical the way Ulster treat hurling though, shower of Fuk-Hirs  ;)  Bet most of you great hurling people in Antrim were watching the hanky ball on TV, another feckin disgrace  ;)

Did see you at Corrigan on Saturday Duck.  But with half a team and the second best team in the league playing (the reserves :o) I'm sure they could have beat the worst team in the League.

You got a sense they needed a rest? Are you Dereck Acorah?

(http://www.paviliontheatre.co.uk/images/shows/past/derek_a_pic.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 24, 2012, 11:15:37 PM
4 players is half a team?

Wasn't at game so can't comment on the actual game. I can't see Loughgiel being overly upset and losing their first game after their All Ireland win against a Down team won't worry them as they would have been disappointed to lose to a rival. It was obviously going to happen some time.

I think Ballycran will be now up for Sat big time. We were poor when we played them 2 wks ago and it was a close game. As previous posters may have suggested, I think they are the best of the Down teams. Definitely better than Portaferry looking at their showing against us also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 24, 2012, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 24, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Loughgiel only half a team out and a lot of reserves playing. JC, MS, RMcC, James C  omitted from the team.  Ballycran were quite dirty in the tackle and off the ball.  Bloody disgraceful show by Ulster Council - no lines men, no score board, no First Aid or doctor  >:(. Loughgeil could have won the game even though they were under power.  I get a sense the lads need a rest and this defeat will do them no harm at all.  I would suspect The Dall will be dissapointed at not getting a rub at the Shamrocks on Saturday evening in the final.  A break and rest for these Loughgeil lads will do them no harm at all, if you ask me.  I have the feeling they have bigger fish to fry come championship.  Typical the way Ulster treat hurling though, shower of Fuk-Hirs  ;)  Bet most of you great hurling people in Antrim were watching the hanky ball on TV, another feckin disgrace  ;)

Did see you at Corrigan on Saturday Duck.  But with half a team and the second best team in the league playing (the reserves :o) I'm sure they could have beat the worst team in the League.

You got a sense they needed a rest? Are you Dereck Acorah?

(http://www.paviliontheatre.co.uk/images/shows/past/derek_a_pic.jpg)
Sure we were only toying about with the Fuk-hirs.  As I said, nothing to get excited about at this stage of proceedings.  I doubt you seen me at all Milltown man.  ;)  You seem to be grasping at straws in recent times.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 24, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:49:44 PM
I can only go on current form, Ballycran, played two lost two!!
Have you seen all the Co. Down teams this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:27:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2012, 03:01:24 PM
Is Neilly McGarry likely to get a call now for Hippy then?
He was taken off tonight with an injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 24, 2012, 09:20:16 PM

Quote from: Interesting on April 23, 2012, 09:01:34 PM

Saffron 89- From what I hear it was a very 'interesting', encounter. Will give SIE an opporunity to comment before I put the record straight.



"I know nothing about it. But I'm sure you cant wait to dish out the dirt"


SIE- Lets just say your party didn't leave Cross with their reputation enhanced. Hope they don't think that we are all like that in Antrim.
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 11:32:53 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 24, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:49:44 PM
I can only go on current form, Ballycran, played two lost two!!
Have you seen all the Co. Down teams this year?

have you seen the results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
Can't believe that Loughgiel were beat tonight in the Ulster semi final, unreal, Ballycran are the worst of the bunch down there, the team Loughgiel had out on Saturday would have been good enough for Ballycran. Beat by 5.

Would it be a case that they didn't wish to see Cushendall too early or are Ballycran the best team in Ireland? I have my suspicions
You said here (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg1101764#msg1101764) that Portaferry were the worst team down there. Which one is it MR2, the one that plays LG?  ;)

According to observers they gave Cushendall a good game recently as well, good result tonight for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
Can't believe that Loughgiel were beat tonight in the Ulster semi final, unreal, Ballycran are the worst of the bunch down there, the team Loughgiel had out on Saturday would have been good enough for Ballycran. Beat by 5.

Would it be a case that they didn't wish to see Cushendall too early or are Ballycran the best team in Ireland? I have my suspicions
You said here (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg1101764#msg1101764) that Portaferry were the worst team down there. Which one is it MR2, the one that plays LG?  ;)

After first result it was ports, after second its Ballycran who seemed to be sitting on zero points with Dunloy, I can't go by any other reasoning, can you? Having watched loughgiel on saturday they looked comfortable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 11:41:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
Can't believe that Loughgiel were beat tonight in the Ulster semi final, unreal, Ballycran are the worst of the bunch down there, the team Loughgiel had out on Saturday would have been good enough for Ballycran. Beat by 5.

Would it be a case that they didn't wish to see Cushendall too early or are Ballycran the best team in Ireland? I have my suspicions
You said here (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1347.msg1101764#msg1101764) that Portaferry were the worst team down there. Which one is it MR2, the one that plays LG?  ;)

After first result it was ports, after second its Ballycran who seemed to be sitting on zero points with Dunloy, I can't go by any other reasoning, can you? Having watched loughgiel on saturday they looked comfortable.
They were only beat by 3 points by the Dall. A lot better than other teams well fair against them this year. I wasn't at the match this evening but to be honest, I think we can do without another match on Saturday. By your reasoning you seem to be saying that Dunloy are the worst Antrim team in division 1. Controversial MR2.

Btw, who said our reserves were the second best team? I certainly didn't. I said some of our reserve hurlers are as good as some of those playing division two/ intermediates/ juniors.  That's a fact I'll stick by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
You're talking Shite MR2 & SIE proved it. Sarsfields are obviously a lot better than St Galls then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 25, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
I can't believe Loughgiel didn't win against Ballycran. I know they ran us to 3 points but like all the Down teams they are far better at home than they are away. Are Loughgiel running scared of Cushendall? Maybe, just maybe. :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 09:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 25, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
I can't believe Loughgiel didn't win against Ballycran. I know they ran us to 3 points but like all the Down teams they are far better at home than they are away. Are Loughgiel running scared of Cushendall? Maybe, just maybe. :P

So that's where the Crans were heading last night! Saw a few lads standing in Kircubbin on the way home from work.

well done them, I suppose they were probably up for it more than loughgeil, but a surprise all the same.

Will the Ulster final be played in a neutral venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
You're talking Shite MR2 & SIE proved it. Sarsfields are obviously a lot better than St Galls then?

Yes Sarsfields are better than us, the league never lies, it's the only form we can use. Yes Dunloy are worse than Ballycran according to the league results, nothing controversial about that.

Two hands , would you say Loughgiel are not as good as Ballycran?

Neutral venue meaning Casement? yes ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2012, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 09:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 25, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
I can't believe Loughgiel didn't win against Ballycran. I know they ran us to 3 points but like all the Down teams they are far better at home than they are away. Are Loughgiel running scared of Cushendall? Maybe, just maybe. :P

So that's where the Crans were heading last night! Saw a few lads standing in Kircubbin on the way home from work.

well done them, I suppose they were probably up for it more than loughgeil, but a surprise all the same.

Will the Ulster final be played in a neutral venue?

We don't do neutral venues when it comes to Down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Yeah I would agree congratulations to Ballycran hopefully will give them a lift and bring on the other two teams in the Ards.

Just on that, I dont think any of the teams in Antrim are that special that they can do without even 3-4 top players, not when it comes to championship type hurling anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2012, 10:06:40 AM
How do we see tonight going lads?

Randalstwon to beat Gort handy
Galls to beat Carey but close enough up the country
Glenariffe to beat Lamhs with plenty to spare

Table-topping Sarsfields V Rossa is the only match in the city so I will be at it myself will let you'se know (well for those interested) tomorro. Normally I would say an easy win for Rossa but MR2's advice tells me Sarsfields! Tonights result will either be a reality check for the Paddies or a crisis for Rossa depending on who wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 10:22:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Yeah I would agree congratulations to Ballycran hopefully will give them a lift and bring on the other two teams in the Ards.

Just on that, I dont think any of the teams in Antrim are that special that they can do without even 3-4 top players, not when it comes to championship type hurling anyway.

Ironically enough after our defeat to Ballycastle we'd two lads we decided to make a return to hurling, one will certainly make a big difference when he gets fit, hasn't had much luck with injuries and broke his wrist against Cushendall last year when only getting back from a bad leg break the previous year. The other would be handy enough in the half backs or midfield, sadly no ball winning forwards unless big magic gets too much sun on his big arse in Australia and decides to come home!

Would Glenariffe not be considered neutral for that Ulster league final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 10:22:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Yeah I would agree congratulations to Ballycran hopefully will give them a lift and bring on the other two teams in the Ards.

Just on that, I dont think any of the teams in Antrim are that special that they can do without even 3-4 top players, not when it comes to championship type hurling anyway.

Ironically enough after our defeat to Ballycastle we'd two lads we decided to make a return to hurling, one will certainly make a big difference when he gets fit, hasn't had much luck with injuries and broke his wrist against Cushendall last year when only getting back from a bad leg break the previous year. The other would be handy enough in the half backs or midfield, sadly no ball winning forwards unless big magic gets too much sun on his big arse in Australia and decides to come home!

Would Glenariffe not be considered neutral for that Ulster league final?

Glenariffe is too close to Cushendall, Cushendun would do though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 10:32:52 AM
Glenariffe pitch much more suited to pitch and putt anyway  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 25, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
QuoteWould Glenariffe not be considered neutral for that Ulster league final?

Jesus Johnny don't be giving them ideas!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 01:23:07 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on April 25, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
QuoteWould Glenariffe not be considered neutral for that Ulster league final?

Jesus Johnny don't be giving them ideas!

You shouldn't laugh, Portaferry were made play Dunloy in an Ulster final in the central location of Loughgeil one year that Casement park wasn't available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2012, 01:28:12 PM
Casement wasnt available due to flooding if i can remember that one correctly, Snorkels and Flippers were handed out at the gate in Loughgiel  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 25, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
If I remember rightly Portaferry where more than happy to play it that day in a waterlogged pitch as Dunloy have 4/5 key players out injured.  Loughgiel kindly volunteered their pitch so the match wouldn't have to be pushed back a week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on April 25, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
If I remember rightly Portaferry where more than happy to play it that day in a waterlogged pitch as Dunloy have 4/5 key players out injured.  Loughgiel kindly volunteered their pitch so the match wouldn't have to be pushed back a week

I'm sure ourselves or Ballycran would have volunteered our pitches as well, don't think we were asked though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D

Because Loughgeil have set at the top table with the best in Ireland you all wish to castigate and lambast them!  If I was a Loughgeil man I would be as proud as punch. I just do't get it that a lot of you fuk-hirs wish to revel in a meaningless loss against Ballycran.  Get real FFS, I would suspect if Loughgeil wanted to beat Ballycran and play in a UL Final on Saturday they would have fielded at full strength last night in Casement.  If you ask me, judging by the performance, Shamrocks were only fulfilling the fixture.

Seems you are all smitten with the wonderful Irish trait of the BEGRUDGERS! You want to grow up an acknowledge a magnificent achievement.  Achievements like this don't come too often to most of our clubs in Antrim, only Loughgeil and St. Galls have really sat at the top table in this regard.  Attempting to emulate there magnificent achievements would serve us all better instead of bitching and running them down.

Envy oh Envy!  I would be the first to admit that I do envy them, but I am willing to openly applaud their great achievement.  Fuk the Ulster Hurling League anyway, meaningless piece of shit that it is  ;D  Only a paltry gesture from Ulster Council anyway, they will never treat hurling in Ulster with parity.  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D


Hmmm, let me see, team from Limerick vrs team from Antrim, Dublin pretty central to both IMO, but I'll bow to your greater geographical knowledge.

AI final played in Croke park, that's shocking altogether!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D


Hmmm, let me see, team from Limerick vrs team from Antrim, Dublin pretty central to both IMO, but I'll bow to your greater geographical knowledge.

AI final played in Croke park, that's shocking altogether!
Ya see, the point I was making was, does it really matter about the venue to a committed, focused and well prepared team? Nob  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D


Hmmm, let me see, team from Limerick vrs team from Antrim, Dublin pretty central to both IMO, but I'll bow to your greater geographical knowledge.

AI final played in Croke park, that's shocking altogether!
Ya see, the point I was making was, does it really matter about the venue to a committed, focused and well prepared team? Nob  ;)

Like last night? :o

Of course all teams can have a blip, we play away to Carey tonight and could come a cropper. Those are the breaks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 25, 2012, 02:46:35 PM
Daffy, think you need to go and see a Quack!!!

Where did that come from?
I think most (bar the obvious) are delighted with LG winning AI

Have Ulster wronged you in the past?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 25, 2012, 02:46:35 PM
Daffy, think you need to go and see a Quack!!!

Where did that come from?
I think most (bar the obvious) are delighted with LG winning AI

Have Ulster wronged you in the past?
Sure, don't we all rant on here, then we are all Quackers!  No, stating the obvious, Ulster Council treat hurling as an inconvenience and with contempt.

I dare say also, that not only the obvious outspoken and vociferous are welcoming/embracing the Loughgeil victory as we all should have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D


Hmmm, let me see, team from Limerick vrs team from Antrim, Dublin pretty central to both IMO, but I'll bow to your greater geographical knowledge.

AI final played in Croke park, that's shocking altogether!
Ya see, the point I was making was, does it really matter about the venue to a committed, focused and well prepared team? Nob  ;)

Like last night? :o

Of course all teams can have a blip, we play away to Carey tonight and could come a cropper. Those are the breaks
I was generalising Milltown man, not solely referring to last evening, but any team which is focused/prepared don't really give a toss as regards the venue. Just a personal opinion of course  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Sure wasn't Parnell and Croke Park great neutral venues for the Shamrocks. You Fuk-hirs are talking a load of (as HS would say) BALLIX!  ;D


Hmmm, let me see, team from Limerick vrs team from Antrim, Dublin pretty central to both IMO, but I'll bow to your greater geographical knowledge.

AI final played in Croke park, that's shocking altogether!
Ya see, the point I was making was, does it really matter about the venue to a committed, focused and well prepared team? Nob  ;)

Like last night? :o

Of course all teams can have a blip, we play away to Carey tonight and could come a cropper. Those are the breaks
I was generalising Milltown man, not solely referring to last evening, but any team which is focused/prepared don't really give a toss as regards the venue. Just a personal opinion of course  ;)

I'll agree with you on that point. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 25, 2012, 05:57:32 PM
have to head to st paul's game tonight for my sins??????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
Are yous not playing Armoy Glen Rovers tonight saffron89?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 07:36:27 PM
SIE-- Why don't you share the story about the Shamrocks players trip to Crossmaglen? Are you any way ashamed about what happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 07:52:58 PM
Interesting........I remember a few things happening in your neck of the woods that I could rake up. But in your case it might be a wee bit close to home.Do you know what I'm getting at or are has nobody mentioned it for a long time.Maybe you're just too young.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 07:36:27 PM
SIE-- Why don't you share the story about the Shamrocks players trip to Crossmaglen? Are you any way ashamed about what happened?
er, no. I really don't know what happened and have no interest in finding out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Glenariffe/Lamh Dhearg draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 08:41:23 PM
Is that a result minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 07:52:58 PM
Interesting........I remember a few things happening in your neck of the woods that I could rake up. But in your case it might be a wee bit close to home.Do you know what I'm getting at or are has nobody mentioned it for a long time.Maybe you're just too young.

And the chances this character is actually from Glenariffe are??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Glenariffe/Lamh Dhearg draw.

Glenariffe 0-11 to 1-8 Lamh Dhearg.

Very difficult conditions to play in as it was blowing a gale across the field. Lots of wides for both teams as a result. Glenariffe played catchup for most of the game after an early lead. Drew level with about 10 to go and neither team scored after that.





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Glenariffe/Lamh Dhearg draw.

Glenariffe 0-11 to 1-8 Lamh Dhearg.

Very difficult conditions to play in as it was blowing a gale across the field. Lots of wides for both teams as a result. Glenariffe played catchup for most of the game after an early lead. Drew level with about 10 to go and neither team scored after that.

Straight red for Micko Herron i believe, for a stamp on a player on the ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 25, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
Rossa beat 3-11 to 1-10

Very poor result for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Arthur ....friend ....He's not from Glenariffe, just trying it on. I have my suspicions  that he's another well known stirrer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 25, 2012, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Arthur ....friend ....He's not from Glenariffe, just trying it on. I have my suspicions  that he's another well known stirrer.

The voice of reason!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 09:01:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 25, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Glenariffe/Lamh Dhearg draw.

Glenariffe 0-11 to 1-8 Lamh Dhearg.

Very difficult conditions to play in as it was blowing a gale across the field. Lots of wides for both teams as a result. Glenariffe played catchup for most of the game after an early lead. Drew level with about 10 to go and neither team scored after that.

Straight red for Micko Herron i believe, for a stamp on a player on the ground.

Indeed. Glenariffe opted to put the resulting penalty over the bar.

Lamh Dhearg had a late chance to win the match with a free from the 21 but put it wide. The wind again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 25, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
Are yous not playing Armoy Glen Rovers tonight saffron89?

lets just say an extra pair of eyes where required on the shaws rd. Duty calls and all that

interesting result up the glens, how did the galls do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 25, 2012, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 25, 2012, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
Are yous not playing Armoy Glen Rovers tonight saffron89?

lets just say an extra pair of eyes where required on the shaws rd. Duty calls and all that

interesting result up the glens, how did the galls do

They won 2-9 to 0-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 09:18:26 PM
Bushwahcker- I am happy to respond to any indiscretions that may have occurred.

Will you defend what went on in Cross? Better still why don't you share the story with the rest of the posters so they can make their own minds up. SIE says he doesn't know, so he will be enlightened too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 25, 2012, 09:23:53 PM
Any report on rossa game? Rossa poor? Paddies good?. They have been putting up good scores in all their games. Very interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 09:36:54 PM
Interesting.........or should it be boring. Nobody has heard of anything untoward happening in Cross. Maybe Shams beat them at bogball.If I hear anything I'll let you know. Bye now and don't worry yourself over it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 09:44:22 PM
Buskwhacker- Ok. One of the heros of you All Ireland winning team strangely decided to abuse your local neighbours and rivals in quite offensive language to what would be agroup of strangers, in Antrim hurling terms. Why would he want to do that so far from home, goodness knows. Any way you just never know who would meet when you are out...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on April 25, 2012, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 09:44:22 PM
Buskwhacker- Ok. One of the heros of you All Ireland winning team strangely decided to abuse your local neighbours and rivals in quite offensive language to what would be agroup of strangers, in Antrim hurling terms. Why would he want to do that so far from home, goodness knows. Any way you just never know who would meet when you are out...............

Is that your story??!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 09:57:35 PM
Good that's cleared up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Does this Sarsfields team have many of the u21s on it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 09:18:26 PM
Bushwahcker- I am happy to respond to any indiscretions that may have occurred.

Will you defend what went on in Cross? Better still why don't you share the story with the rest of the posters so they can make their own minds up. SIE says he doesn't know, so he will be enlightened too.
Fuk-kin let it rest ya ballbag.  Trying to get a rise from the Loughgeil lads, catch yourself on!  Go wallow in your self pity and envy.  Do you think something which allegedly happened in Xmaglen would not have had an airing here before this?  Sure you would have had it plastered on here in a further attempt to demean Loughgeil's great victory.  Do yourself a favour man and grow up!  It's individuals like you who would have posted the story long before this!  Seeing you are so knowledgeable about what went on, why don't you share it here now?  Otherwise fuk off ya cretin!  ::) >:(

Fuk-kin hell!  I am beginning to sound like a credible poster, I must be reading too many of the county moderators responses  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
...........He was asked to refrain from the abuse by some people who are relations of your local rivals but of course he didn't, even after he was 'stretched' in the toilets.


I understand he was then 'advised' to head for the border.

Absolutely no class. couldn't take youse anywhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
Would he not have been on this side of the border.
You can always take us to Croke Park on Paddy's day, we have a good record there.......unlike some!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 10:27:57 PM
 :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 25, 2012, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
...........He was asked to refrain from the abuse by some people who are relations of your local rivals but of course he didn't, even after he was 'stretched' in the toilets.


I understand he was then 'advised' to head for the border.

Absolutely no class. couldn't take youse anywhere.
Fek-kin hell!  I always new Dunloy and Xmaglen people were inter-bred, ugly shower of Ballixes.  "Who's picking the banjo here"  Duelling fuk-kin banjos - dada da da da da da da, dada da da da da da da da, send for Burt Reynolds for Fuk sake  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
Oh dear hardstation - well done paddies!!

Just out if a well deserved bath after that game!

Here goes:

1) terrible conditions so little or no hurling played
2) these conditions normally mean the old team that wants it mist cliche is true - sarsfields blatantly wanted it more with genuine effort against Rossa apathy.
3) the game was basically point for point until half way thru 2nd half. A sars free dropped short and rossa keeper dropped it - goal. 2mins later another free dropped short - Rossa full back blocked it into his own net! In a low scoring game due to conditions that was game over!

Sarsfields seemed young so must be that under21 side coming thru. I don't know much of them to be honest but great to see a Belfast side on the up!

Rossa have seen a bit more of - goals goals goals! Rossa gift them to the opposition every game and as I remember it's been going on for some time! Also the team seems unrecognisable from week to week. Hardstation I wandered over to your guys after game the consensus was that the players who were not there are more to blame. I assumed injuries but Dare I say ur clubmates reckon they didn't fancy the rain! I have to say your once promising youngsters don't seem to be delivering at senior level? That brings me no pleasure to say. I am honestly not winding up it was the feeling from tonight.

Elsewhere a great point for hannahstown and does this mean galls might stay the distance! I hope so. That was not an easy game tonight but a convincing scoreline in Carey. All in tonight shows again what a great league this is! Lamh dearg and sarsfields shaking it up while oisins & galls battle for supremacy. How will it all finish?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Buswacker- Croke Park is beyond a club of our size, between senior and interejit but I would like to think if we were successful we would win with a bit of dignity and hold ourselves well.

nuf said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 25, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
Maybe they need  " Deliverance"..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
This Sarsfields team to be one to contend with over the next few years if they can keep all their young talent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
As I said already Sarsfields the team to beat, Kevo has them hurling rightly, and rightly and so, good bunch of under 21's coming through who fear no team. No real free ones in this league, Gorts managed a win over Tir Na Og (what's happened to them recently?)

We played Carey in Ballycastle and by fook the wind must have been 50/60 mph !! was mental. Won toss which is great in those conditions and managed two goals and a few points early on, then took foot of the gas ffs.  Finished with 2 points and had a 9 point lead. Was sure Carey would come at us in the second half but we out scored them and won handy. Was a good win considering the players that have scored 90% of our scores of late (Karl and Mackers) weren't playing.

Next fixture seems to be off I think (6th may) I hear the county teams have weekend breaks fixed for that weekend.

Agreed SIE, but there in lies the problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 01:57:32 AM
Quote from: Interesting on April 25, 2012, 10:15:09 PM
...........He was asked to refrain from the abuse by some people who are relations of your local rivals but of course he didn't, even after he was 'stretched' in the toilets.


I understand he was then 'advised' to head for the border.

Absolutely no class. couldn't take youse anywhere.
First I knew Cross was in the south you complete Gimp of a man!!  And another thing, knowone was "stretched" in the toilets,  so go back to who ever is talking utter shite and tell them that!!  Hard to move forward with balls getting talked at every chance!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2012, 06:13:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
As I said already Sarsfields the team to beat, Kevo has them hurling rightly, and rightly and so, good bunch of under 21's coming through who fear no team. No real free ones in this league, Gorts managed a win over Tir Na Og (what's happened to them recently?)

We played Carey in Ballycastle and by fook the wind must have been 50/60 mph !! was mental. Won toss which is great in those conditions and managed two goals and a few points early on, then took foot of the gas ffs.  Finished with 2 points and had a 9 point lead. Was sure Carey would come at us in the second half but we out scored them and won handy. Was a good win considering the players that have scored 90% of our scores of late (Karl and Mackers) weren't playing.

Next fixture seems to be off I think (6th may) I hear the county teams have weekend breaks fixed for that weekend.

Agreed SIE, but there in lies the problem
I'd say it's a major problem up there alright, the bright lights and all that. The only problem we'd have losing players are young fellas heading to sunnier climes for work. We do have a few lads playing football(soccer) for, of all teams, Dunloy   ???, but hurling always comes first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 26, 2012, 08:21:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
As I said already Sarsfields the team to beat, Kevo has them hurling rightly, and rightly and so, good bunch of under 21's coming through who fear no team. No real free ones in this league, Gorts managed a win over Tir Na Og (what's happened to them recently?)

We played Carey in Ballycastle and by fook the wind must have been 50/60 mph !! was mental. Won toss which is great in those conditions and managed two goals and a few points early on, then took foot of the gas ffs.  Finished with 2 points and had a 9 point lead. Was sure Carey would come at us in the second half but we out scored them and won handy. Was a good win considering the players that have scored 90% of our scores of late (Karl and Mackers) weren't playing.

Next fixture seems to be off I think (6th may) I hear the county teams have weekend breaks fixed for that weekend.

Agreed SIE, but there in lies the problem
Antrim play Ballyhale Shamrocks on Sat 5th & then KK U21's on the Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 26, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
This Sarsfields team to be one to contend with over the next few years if they can keep all their young talent.

Something is wrong in Rossa. About 3 weeks ago, our South Antrim team stuffed a Sarsfields team that was not very different to their team last night, yet our seniors go out and lose to them.

"Way too much, much too young" is a school of thought for us.

It sometimes comes down to a fight, and when the weather is shite (usually is on a wed night) the team that wants it the most wins. Said already that Rossa's fullback line was suspect, two balls into the full backline last night seems to have been the difference last night. Sarsfields have a bitta of a run going which is always hard to stop. Great too see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 26, 2012, 09:20:34 AM
I really am perplexed at that result!

Sarsfields cannot be as the results suggest, with respect.  Rossa need to get the house in order HS and fast - or they will get dragged into an almighty fight (Connolly and Murphy will be wheeled out to keep them up!!!)

Although their result against Gort now looks like the 'good form' is working out!  Given the results so far though (with respect Rossa) it does seem that they may have had 3 suitable opening games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 26, 2012, 09:20:34 AM
I really am perplexed at that result!

Sarsfields cannot be as the results suggest, with respect.  Rossa need to get the house in order HS and fast - or they will get dragged into an almighty fight (Connolly and Murphy will be wheeled out to keep them up!!!)

Although their result against Gort now looks like the 'good form' is working out!  Given the results so far though (with respect Rossa) it does seem that they may have had 3 suitable opening games.

Sarsfields have improved and they are not a flash in the pan, their under 21's played rightly last year and could have won a championship. I refereed their minors a few times over the years and they have strong players with decent stickwork. Knowing Kevo he will certainly have them fired up for games, probably come on himself if needs be ;) And he's managed these lads right through juvenile so he'll have their respect also. All good factors, Good shout for Intermediate.

So with respect DearyMe, Naomh Gall won't be taking Sarsfields lightly, with only one team up (every year >:() ya can't afford to give teams too many points!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 10:53:16 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 26, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2012, 11:12:04 PM
This Sarsfields team to be one to contend with over the next few years if they can keep all their young talent.

Something is wrong in Rossa. About 3 weeks ago, our South Antrim team stuffed a Sarsfields team that was not very different to their team last night, yet our seniors go out and lose to them.

"Way too much, much too young" is a school of thought for us.

I have to take issue with the HS after being at the game last night. The Sarsfields side were by far the younger team! Your good underage players simply have not stepped up to the mark. For what it's worth they actually looked more physically imposing than Sarsfields - but were time and time again out-fought. I am not sure (particularly compared to Sars) your team is as young as you think! Too much? Its division2 hurling they are not being asked to run out on Croke Park in front of 80,000 like some younger inter-county player do! You did have a young lad in corner forward who hit frees - he was actually your only decent performer. Thats the second game I have seen Rossa play this year - St galls out-fought them and I think MR2 will be happy with their bunch of young hurlers also? Age is certainly not the Rossa problem Hardstation - for me there is no steel in the majority of the players who have replaced your Div1 sides of the past - they have had 3/4 seasons at it now. Thats the evidence on the pitch and according to your own guys - the absence of others is also evidence of a lack of heart for it! I have alot of time for Rossa so as I say I am not winding up but I think this has been the reality this season and the one before that etc. Sometimes excuses are not enough.

Anyone with more Sarsfield knowledge there? Not really aware of their team or the names of many of the lads but looks really bright. Also, Kevo McKiernan was so relaxed and seemed to have his side trying to hurl. This is a marked changed from Sarsfields teams I have seen in the past - great to see.

MR2 nice of ballycastle to offer up their pitch?
I think thats a convincing win - and a trip up the coast chalked off big bonus. How much will the football take away during the year? Is it for players being opted out or natural injuries? This team can really make the step up to Div1. It has been a bit of a yo-yo promotion/relegation but I see Galls staying up if they get there. St Johns and the Ards teams would struggle with Galls mix of hard garft and guile.

Intersting also to hear of Micko red card - how will this affect county? Or will the clunty affect the suspension if you get my drift?! Great result for the Lamh Dearg men also mind you. And shows Oisins there for taking over the course if Galls just stay consistent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
Surely any players absent would help the cause! And again I dont be be a rumour monger but I stood with the Rossa crowd last night and all three of your games have featured absentees for frivilous reasons. Like I say, it's not the age of Rossa players that is stopping them from being big boys (remember other sides are younger) - being men and being senior hurlers is what is needed? You know better than me but that the perspective I get without knowing the personalities directly. On this basis I dont see Rossa picking up many points certainly not on the road. Its a far cry from running Loughiel close - what has changed in the set-up? Or are the players like I say lacking regular commitment - shameful. You dont have far to look to see other clubs with supposedly less potential stepping up to the plate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
I would agree they played like kids!

But Kevo is the one playing the younger team in terms of age sure they are mostly his Under21 team - your squad is not young compared to other teams. Largely the same team been playing for several years now. I have seen time and time again the rationale of "we are a young team etc" suddenly sneak up and the side is older and experienced but still playing on the same excuse. Outside of that wee corner forward - who were these Rossa kids? I am trying to go though your team in my head and granted its mostly guys in their young 20s - but this is the typical age of hurlers now and they have all several years experience in this league. How long will Rossa trot out excuses for them HS? Like I say, other younger teams on your doorstep have caught up and passed this generation already. Your underage success does not bode well for senior.
Another one off effort for championship to be glorious losers? What happened that momentum from the tail end of last season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
Serious gripe there btdtgtt

Looking in from the outside obviously Rossa have had a difficult couple of weeks with losing their manager and the start of their season being disrupted. With the division being so close these are the type of things that can make the difference at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 12:24:05 PM
There is no real momentum you can use from 'last season'. New managers come in different players and a long break means momentum is lost.

Shannon is young and the fullbackline is young for Rossa also, Beattie couldn't be that old also and as you say the wee lad up front is quality. Rossa bar the usual suspects are a young team, Younger than us.

Kevo has taken a chance and so far so good. they have momentum and will be difficult to stop. Never played against a Sarsfield team that didn't have fight and i doubt they will ever lose that.

I have no doubt that Rossa can make an impression in Championship, but with the fall out of the coach it will take a couple of weeks before AH finds his real team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Yes I take all those points and apologies if I sound anti-Rossa but I did regard them as contenders.

No doubt some genuine reasons for absences - injuries - but it was Rossa men on the hill that told me some excuses were not genuine.
Full backs? Bell was FB for last nights goals, Shannon at CB has been on this team for several years experience now and has been on county panel so dont see youth as issue the. Most of the team are from this age group coming thru and I dont see them as up to the task of promotion despite many goes at it before you know it time slips on - it has started already with younger Sarsfield team pipping them.

If I am too negative on Rossa maybe we can look at the Wing McCullough legacy as having a bad effect or injuries but if AH takes it on again he will have his work cut out alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 26, 2012, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 26, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
Mark Devlin broke his leg against Lamh Dhearg too. Another big loss. That's 5 of our main men missing. Very disappointing start alright but we'll see what the rest of the season brings.
Sorry to hear that about Sparky. decent fella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 26, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
Now HS don't be biting but I have been told by a rossa man that a few of the more talented young fellas in rossa have no desire to improve or succeed. Can take it or leave it. Peronally I was very impressed with rossa, they are a big big side with great stickwork. Personally thought they were lacking leadership and a game plan but those are things that can be worked on and maybe AH is the man to do that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
Long way to August  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
All valid points we seem to be arriving at similar conclusion apologies Rossa but true.
Might have thought promotion to Div1 more important than a performance in August Hardstation?
For example, St Galls put in big championships but have started the league with more commitment.
I must be just annoyed at Rossa for getting me soaked last night!

Anyone know when the Ulster league final is? This weekend? Casement?
Would have like to seen Dall V Loughiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Last year we had a great start to the league, won all our games leading up to the Ballycastle game, then the wheels came off and due to other commitments our manager had to step down and we went into free fall in the league, but put 3/4 weeks effort into training leading up to Championship.

We have had a stronger panel this year and players who were injured or committed to county football are hurling for the club, better panel with 'regulars' now fitting for places. Still no training but hopefully we'll put that right soon. Heard manager told them they aren't training till they lose a match!!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 26, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
QuoteAnyone know when the Ulster league final is? This weekend? Casement?

Casement Saturday @ 1.15pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
Long way to August  ;)
Aye, but which August? Now therein lies the  question!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on April 26, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
QuoteAnyone know when the Ulster league final is? This weekend? Casement?

Casement Saturday @ 1.15pm.
Div 1 Final at 6.00 or 6.30.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 26, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on April 26, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
QuoteAnyone know when the Ulster league final is? This weekend? Casement?

Casement Saturday @ 1.15pm.
Div 1 Final at 6.00 or 6.30.
Lecale is right..1.15pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 26, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
Quote from: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on April 26, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
QuoteAnyone know when the Ulster league final is? This weekend? Casement?

Casement Saturday @ 1.15pm.
Div 1 Final at 6.00 or 6.30.
Lecale is right..1.15pm
COMPETITION NAME   ROUND   TIME   VENUE   TEAM 1   SCORE      TEAM 2   SCORE   REFEREE
DATE: FRIDAY 27TH APR 2012
Ulster Minor Hurling Shield   Semi-Finals   7 30 PM   Kingspan Breffni Pk   Cavan   ---    v   Monaghan   ---   John Devlin
DATE: SATURDAY 28TH APR 2012
Ulster Minor Football League 2012 Shield Playoffs   Final   12 45 PM   Clones   Armagh   ---    v   Donegal   ---   Sean Hurson
Táin Club Hurling League Division 3 Playoffs   Final   1 00 PM   3G Pitch Kingspan Breffni PK   Knockbridge Hurling   ---    v   Lisnaskea Hurling   ---   James Clarke
Táin Club Hurling League Division 1 Playoffs   Final   1 15 PM   Casement Park   Ruairí Óg   ---    v   Ballycran   ---   Eamon Hasson
Ulster Minor Football League 2012 Playoffs   Final   2 30 PM   Clones   Derry   ---    v   Tyrone   ---   Niall Cullen
Táin Club Hurling League Division 5 Playoffs   Final   2 45 PM   3G Pitch Kingspan Breffni PK   Clonguish   ---    v   Pearse Óg   ---   Brendan Sweeney
Táin Club Hurling League Division 4 Playoffs   Final   3 00 PM   Casement Park   Mattock Rangers   ---    v   Robert Emmett's Cushendun   ---   Paul Braniff
Táin Club Hurling League Division 2 Playoffs   Final   4 45 PM   Casement Park   Slaughtneil   ---    v   Glen Rovers   ---   Declan Magee

Apologies!  I am only a Duck after all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
A duck or did you spell that right? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
Agreed hardstation.

Mr2 you like a bit of abuse now & again!

Fancy dall to win ulster league final - platform for shot at the all Ireland champs?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
A duck or did you spell that right? :o
My spelling is improving Milltown man under your good tutelage.   ;)  Sure u r the master  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on April 26, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
The "duck" is the county moderator.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
Agreed hardstation.

Mr2 you like a bit of abuse now & again!

Fancy dall to win ulster league final - platform for shot at the all Ireland champs?!

Cushendall wont be going flat out thats for sure, had loughgiel been playing then maybe.

Abuse? Sure only a bitta craic, nothing won or lost on here.

Your spelling has improved from your last reincarnation ducky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 26, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
Agreed hardstation.

Mr2 you like a bit of abuse now & again!

Fancy dall to win ulster league final - platform for shot at the all Ireland champs?!

Cushendall wont be going flat out thats for sure, had loughgiel been playing then maybe.

Abuse? Sure only a bitta craic, nothing won or lost on here.

Your spelling has improved from your last reincarnation ducky
I haven't the fondest notion what your are alluding to Milltown.  I suspect u r confusing me with another contributor maybe?

Fuk-kin hell Move er on, you outed me already!  I'll have get Frankie to get me a new account and Avatar  ;) :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 26, 2012, 08:33:48 PM
Sleeping giant- Obviously touched a nerve there. Head for the border, meant 'get out of town.'

I am happy to stand aside to your version, which is..............

Looking forward to the first major clash between Shams and Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 26, 2012, 08:48:40 PM
They've already met.Shams won, but then you should know that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 26, 2012, 08:52:33 PM
Very good Bushwhack- Your sharp.

1st proper game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
Dunloy would need to get to the final for that to happen and with Loughgiel getting the easy side of the draw (again) then it may be a while yet ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2012, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
Dunloy would need to get to the final for that to happen and with Loughgiel getting the easy side of the draw (again) then it may be a while yet ;)
The latest pure pish rumour I've heard today is that the senior hurling draw was rigged to favour LG. This county is feckin laughable at times. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2012, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
Dunloy would need to get to the final for that to happen and with Loughgiel getting the easy side of the draw (again) then it may be a while yet ;)
The latest pure pish rumour I've heard today is that the senior hurling draw was rigged to favour LG. This county is feckin laughable at times. :D
It's only laughable when we do well mate.   Sure it's been poor standard as past few years. Anyone else wins something and there flying :o.   As for my version/facts/not bullshit.  Would maybe be non hurling related and not for a hurling website/bullshit/90% slabbers website!  Now shhhh because use are finished mate!!!   Sooooooooo SAD ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2012, 10:25:40 PM
I hope you meant to quote interesting mate.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
 ;D   apologies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 10:32:14 PM
Look lads you will have to wind your necks in an stop bitting please!!! If ya don't it will continue so join in and when someone throws a hook, dont bite  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 10:36:50 PM
apologies again.     :D    small bit hard at times MR2  but i shall be like a mouse :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 10:36:50 PM
apologies again.     :D    small bit hard at times MR2  but i shall be like a mouse :P

Look our club has been knocked for years because we keep winning, (long may it continue) clubs at the top always get their knockers. Even lads on here say it would be good for Antrim if we lost the championship, that's bullshite. If they raised the standards at training and game play then we wouldn't win as many as we have lately.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
Mmmmm. I feel strangely like agreeing with mr2 twice in one day! Surely this cannot be!
Ah stuff it we'll find Somethin for a good argument before long!

Another random one here - any venue announced for Antrim v Westmeath?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
Mmmmm. I feel strangely like agreeing with mr2 twice in one day! Surely this cannot be!
Ah stuff it we'll find Somethin for a good argument before long!

Another random one here - any venue announced for Antrim v Westmeath?

Surely it's in Westmeath, Mullingar. Should head down for that one. Road trips are good craic. whats the date?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
19may - if it's mullingar I feel an overnight without the kids.
But if it's Parnell - day trip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
19may - if it's mullingar I feel an overnight without the kids.
But if it's Parnell - day trip.

19 May 2012
Preliminary round

Westmeath

v

Antrim

Cusack Park, Mullingar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
Easy win then heroic loss to Galway before the mundane series of play-offs between losers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
Do you think it will be easy?   I was thinking it could be a tough enough one,  there after improving alot as past few years.  Although I do here they have lost alot of players to the states
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2012, 11:45:57 PM
Should win by ten, Galway are hot and cold, it wont be played there also (Galway that is), more than likely Parnell, so tight enough pitch.hopefully tight game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 11:55:19 PM
Who's full bk with cormac out??   If was me I'd put graffin in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 05:40:55 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Westmeath sneak it. I hope I'm wrong and Antrim stuff them by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 07:37:17 AM
Westmeath are dung, ten point win. Graffin maybe a tad small for fb, if they have  a big ff he could cause problems for Aaron. I wouldnt worry though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 27, 2012, 08:22:09 AM
Graffin full back if Hippy can't make it. Not many options. Great defender & superb under a high ball.
I see from twitter some johnnies put tops/flags on the fence outside the recently demolished Rossa House. Rossa twitter ain't happy!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 27, 2012, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:38:27 AM
;D

Could be St Galls flags just as easy no?  ;)

The Rossa twitter still going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 27, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
(http://yfrog.com/obpkojpj:tw1)

Excellent no denying that one!

On a more serious note it is a sad sight to see for the Rossa club and all GAA people to see their club house demolished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 27, 2012, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:38:27 AM
;D

Could be St Galls flags just as easy no?  ;)

The Rossa twitter still going?

Give us some credit ffs! When we have won as much as Rossa I'll be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 27, 2012, 03:24:53 PM
If you look closely at the flag it says 'no one drinks at our club either'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 27, 2012, 04:29:28 PM
Now hardstation haven't you learnt your lesson about listening to rumours. 2 sides to every story remember :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 27, 2012, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 27, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
(http://yfrog.com/obpkojpj:tw1)

Excellent no denying that one!

On a more serious note it is a sad sight to see for the Rossa club and all GAA people to see their club house demolished.

A sad sight indeed,  Rossa, a club with a great hurling tradition and many achievements in this code.  It could only be a silly St. John's person that would do such a thing.  More deranged acts of jealousy and envy at a club who clearly deserve more respect.  Shame on the St. John's Fuk-hir/s who done this, absolute disgrace, but what do you expect from the hun mentality up the the rock?  :( >:(  Any good Sr. John's man (if there is such a thing) would remove this regalia and apologise on their club's behalf to Rossa.  (But I don't think so somehow).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Hurling Giant- You aren't wrong about the bullshet and slabbering. I heard there was plenty of that but not much else when push came to shove.

SIE - Talking about shoving. What about DD's shove on the umpire at the Dunloy match. Very brave. Where you were standing, you had a great view...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 09:14:31 PM
Hurling Giant- You aren't wrong about the bullshet and slabbering. I heard there was plenty of that but not much else when push came to shove.

SIE - Talking about shoving. What about DD's shove on the umpire at the Dunloy match. Very brave. Where you were standing, you had a great view...............
Yeah maybe my view wasn't great, but I seen him plain as day when he lifted tommy down in croker.  ;)

Does anyone know who this wum is? He certainly isn't from glenarrife.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 09:34:18 PM
SIE - Obviously touching a few nerves. I hear from the man himself, and for anyone else who wants to listen to him, that he won the whole thing on his own. That will do wonders for team morale. Never mind he 's probably still on the payroll. Now where is Bushwhacker when you need him to give a talk about professionalism in the GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
Can anyone smell that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Jealousy rolled up in a big ball of DUNG??? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Jealousy rolled up in a big ball of DUNG??? ;D
(http://www.peaholmquist.com/bullshit/images/bullshit_pile.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 27, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
interesting......You got to admit we are the best. We are blessed,and really you should get over it. Try to concentrate on something positive, get yourself a DVD  of how its done.We have them for sale at the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
Ah now lads, keep er country. Can youse not take a wee bit of fun.

By the way what's the going rate for a semi pro footballer, sorry hurler, och sure any one of them.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Jealousy rolled up in a big ball of DUNG??? ;D
(http://www.peaholmquist.com/bullshit/images/bullshit_pile.jpg)
Looks like dunloys pitch ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
Ah now lads, keep er country. Can youse not take a wee bit of fun.

By the way what's the going rate for a semi pro footballer, sorry hurler, och sure any one of them.  ;D
Worth every penny!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 27, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Best Antrim hurler ever to play in Croke Park in the best Antrim team. We lead the way,try and follow.........and we're modest too !!......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
Sleeping giant - Good man, 1st announcement in the GAA's history that a player is getting paid for playing..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 27, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
Ah now lads, keep er country. Can youse not take a wee bit of fun.

By the way what's the going rate for a semi pro footballer, sorry hurler, och sure any one of them.  ;D
Worth every penny!!!!
he's also a bit out of touch. He hasn't played football in over a year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 27, 2012, 10:21:17 PM
heard barca was looking him ;)   gets looked after to much with shamrocks,   turned it down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
If youse keep on getting pulled into these nobs and then generate more 'crap' it will just make this thread into a childish tit for tat shite. If you want to continue with it please do it through PM's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
If youse keep on getting pulled into these nobs and then generate more 'crap' it will just make this thread into a childish tit for tat shite. If you want to continue with it please do it through PM's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
and will you lot up there do the same?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
If youse keep on getting pulled into these nobs and then generate more 'crap' it will just make this thread into a childish tit for tat shite. If you want to continue with it please do it through PM's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
and will you lot up there do the same?

I don't go on about the amount of times we have won trophy's, it's crap, we are only interested in the next one ffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2012, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2012, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
If youse keep on getting pulled into these nobs and then generate more 'crap' it will just make this thread into a childish tit for tat shite. If you want to continue with it please do it through PM's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
and will you lot up there do the same?

I don't go on about the amount of times we have won trophy's, it's crap, we are only interested in the next one ffs.
ditto
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 28, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Well said Milltown. They won the big one, fair play to them no-one is denying their success. But we will all be hearing about it for the next half century. It would be nice to see a team win and have a bit of dignity and class about it.


Bushbacker started a topic about professionalism in the GAA, which is a genuine topic for discussion, both nationally and locally. He bottled it when he saw where the discussion was going. Success for many clubs is being able to field a team. Make that the starting point. The reality is that 96% of us will never win a senior championship. That doesn't stop us from playing our games and enjoying our culture. If we were even lucky enough to have a group of players come along who could go the whole way. We would flounder because of lack of resources.

Paying people, particularly players, demeans and devalues our games and culture. Oh, and how can you pay someone mileage expenses when they could walk to the hurling field.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Yes but here is the other thing, and I don't own the thread, but recently it has descended into a farce with the various wee slaggings back and forth #9tit for tat). it's boring, I really don't give a shit what happens in Crossmaglen when people have a few beers. The thread is about club county hurling.

I give a bitta slagging every so often but seems there are guys who register just to get shite out there to throw in rumours and mis truths.

So lets get back to it, seasons are in full swing and games happening all over the place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 28, 2012, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Yes but here is the other thing, and I don't own the thread, but recently it has descended into a farce with the various wee slaggings back and forth #9tit for tat). it's boring, I really don't give a shit what happens in Crossmaglen when people have a few beers. The thread is about club county hurling.

I give a bitta slagging every so often but seems there are guys who register just to get shite out there to throw in rumours and mis truths.

So lets get back to it, seasons are in full swing and games happening all over the place.

Well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 28, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
Interesting.... I didn't "bottle" the discussion about professionalism when I saw where it was going. I just realised,at an early point in the debate, that the expertise or intellectual ability did not exist on the forum to give the subject a fair hearing.
As for the bragging about Loughgiel's All Ireland,at the risk of sounding patronising, don't you realise that 99.9% of  Shamrock supporters never look at this or any other GAA website. Some of us use it, I'm almost ashamed to say,as an excuse for blatant slagging,and we're not alone in that respect. Get a life,and loosen up........life's too short !!!


To emphasise the point.....I never suggested we adopt professionalism,I just commented on what Andy Ward had said.
Get the facts right before you launch into a ill thought out attack.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 28, 2012, 01:08:21 PM
Speaking of wind ups nice response to St johns stunt by the Rossa twitter man!
All done in a better spirit than the loughiel / cross / dunloy episodes!
Any hurling this weekend or all football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2012, 02:10:27 PM
Any updates on the Ulster final? Last I heard crans up by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
I don't know if this is a result, Dall 5-14 ballycran 3-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 03:34:57 PM
Was at the match, strange game, Ballycran were the better team for most parts, and very accurate when taking their chances, Cushendall had plenty more to give I thought and when needed they could get the goals when required.

Half pace throughout I thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 28, 2012, 04:28:54 PM
The last Cushendall goal was very soft I thought and finished the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 28, 2012, 06:45:54 PM
Bustwhacker- "Andy Ward is reported as advocating professionalism in the G.A.A. He reckons that if players are training etc. like professionals at the top end of the sport,they should be paid like professionals. He could have a point."

This is exactly what you said. Could it be that you agreed with Andy Ward because your club was already paying players.......

"worth every penny" was another quote of yours.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
No that would of been mine!!   SARCASIM!!   Because retards like yourself can't get over your own hatred,  if you don't wanna talk hurling and drop the bullshit why bother yourself,  cause you are far from interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 28, 2012, 07:20:25 PM
No hatred sleeping. Get that chip off your shoulder.

Legitimate debate about professionalism in our amateur game.  ;)

Talking about hurling. What did you make of DD's tackle on the umpire. Cheap shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 07:41:03 PM
More you go on about it,  you must of been the umpire,  I believe he should have hit you harder ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on April 28, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
No that would of been mine!!   SARCASIM!!   Because retards like yourself can't get over your own hatred,  if you don't wanna talk hurling and drop the bullshit why bother yourself,  cause you are far from interesting

What exactly do you mean by retard Finn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on April 28, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
Why bother giving this tosser airtime. All he wants to do is slag loughgiel on a few rumours he has heard. The more you respond to him the more crap will come back. Paying players seems to be his latest - Never heard as much bull.
Anyone know how the ulster Feile went today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on April 28, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
No that would of been mine!!   SARCASIM!!   Because retards like yourself can't get over your own hatred,  if you don't wanna talk hurling and drop the bullshit why bother yourself,  cause you are far from interesting

What exactly do you mean by retard Finn?
a mentally retarded  person, a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 28, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
Sleeping- The cheap shots just keep on coming. You can use google but everyone knows what your use of the word was.

Wino- No rumours, not one of them. Both fact!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on April 28, 2012, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on April 28, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 28, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
No that would of been mine!!   SARCASIM!!   Because retards like yourself can't get over your own hatred,  if you don't wanna talk hurling and drop the bullshit why bother yourself,  cause you are far from interesting

What exactly do you mean by retard Finn?
a mentally retarded  person, a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard

Do you know many people with mental health problems or a learning disability. Poor show Finn. Could have used any number of adjectives to make your point but you had to use a term that is derogatory to the most vulnerable in society. Shame >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on April 28, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
Yes but here is the other thing, and I don't own the thread, but recently it has descended into a farce with the various wee slaggings back and forth #9tit for tat). it's boring, I really don't give a shit what happens in Crossmaglen when people have a few beers. The thread is about club county hurling.

I give a bitta slagging every so often but seems there are guys who register just to get shite out there to throw in rumours and mis truths.

So lets get back to it, seasons are in full swing and games happening all over the place.

Another thing - MR2 is right. There is some c_rap being posted on this board recently.

Interesting - take your bitchin'  to the Hogan Stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2012, 11:52:04 PM
Well done to Cushendall on their Táin league win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 29, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
Oh dear god will you stop!   Cause I ment that to come across like that!!   Interesting your on here as 3 days trying to mix n stir shit. Plz wise up.  Eoinbeag no harm was intended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 29, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
Been away a while,  haven't missed anything

Sie still smug

Mr2 still thinking he's master of ceremonies

Too many tits mouthing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2012, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: saffronog on April 29, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
Been away a while,  haven't missed anything

Sie still smug

Mr2 still thinking he's master of ceremonies

Too many tits mouthing
who rattled your cage? Smug? Show me where.
You're the newest tit mouthing. Big man  behind the anonymity of a screen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronog on April 29, 2012, 11:13:59 AM
not like yourself.  ready for all challengers.  SIE. 

would i not be correct in saying everyone here is behind a screen of anonymity.  possibly  the reason most of them are here.

your congratulations to the cushendall would be a starting point.  Believe me that i shall not be going back through all your posts, a hobby of many on this site.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 29, 2012, 11:18:47 AM
hurling league only getting started and then another couple of weekends off.  yet fixtures set for october, i would hope many teams organise these fixtures for the long break in July.  but then hard at times for clubs to agree.  Especially with the dual clubs, for obvious reasons.

don't think Saffron hurlers will have an extended run in championship to upset other fixtures.  Shame though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
In the Name of Christ this board is going to pure shit! Catch a grip and FFS no wonder this county is the way it is? At least your leaving the Ref's alone, hopefully not speak to soon, U21 tomorrow night Sars v Shams looks the pic of the bunch, bear pit too not easy to come out of there, there tails seem to be up, confidence in abundance I hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 29, 2012, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
In the Name of Christ this board is going to pure shit! Catch a grip and FFS no wonder this county is the way it is? At least your leaving the Ref's alone, hopefully not speak to soon, U21 tomorrow night Sars v Shams looks the pic of the bunch, bear pit too not easy to come out of there, there tails seem to be up, confidence in abundance I hear.
You feeling out of the limelight Maninblackandgreen and needing to add your tuppence worth!  You must be doing the game tomorrow evening and advertising your so important role in the "pic of the bunch"  ;)  That's one game I am going to go and see how well you get on.  Sure maybe, just maybe you will bring the Paddies back down to reality. I just hope this encounter is not all about the man in the middle.  However, I will reserve my judgement until the final whistle.  :-X  :D  Peep, Peep !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
Ah its the academic back again! Youve worked it out at last! I can come out of the dark closet, what formula did you apply ABCZZZZZZZ,  I can PM you the rule book if you want, quick wee lesson 1234 zzzzs, now tell your mammy it will be a couple of pound in, and don't forget the chips :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 12:15:38 PM
Oh yes as a few of my colleagues used to say "I'm Spartacus", you will find that in the library under Gynecology or Twats for the lesser educated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 29, 2012, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
Ah its the academic back again! Youve worked it out at last! I can come out of the dark closet, what formula did you apply ABCZZZZZZZ,  I can PM you the rule book if you want, quick wee lesson 1234 zzzzs, now tell your mammy it will be a couple of pound in, and don't forget the chips :o
Just checked the fixtures list, so you are G D!  Well, I admit I was wrong, I thought you were someone else (peep, peep man) from the South Antrim region.  Sure me ma always pays me in and I am not allowed chips, I'm in serious training.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 29, 2012, 12:23:29 PM
This is good stuff now, it's hard to beat the cut and thrust of quick wit and repartee as is normal for the educationally elite within our numbers. Keep it coming Oscar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 29, 2012, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 29, 2012, 12:15:38 PM
Oh yes as a few of my colleagues used to say "I'm Spartacus", you will find that in the library under Gynecology or t**ts for the lesser educated.
U r a gas man maninblackandgreen, ur inferences are amazing to say the very least.  I fear you are mistaking me for some other individual,  but we can't be correct all the time.  Surely as a referee you would know that? But then again, well "Referees"  ::)  Keep it going maninblackandgreen, u must b well on ur way to generating "Hero member status" keep er lit ya boy ya!  Not too sure you'd get a lot of south antrim votes though!  :D  ;)  You must be that chatin ballix Cunning then, absolute fuk-hir of the foist order.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on April 29, 2012, 01:33:45 PM
Did anyone make it to the Cruise in Ballyrastle lastnight?  I hear jon44w.com was to be there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 29, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
Are the league fixtures going ahead next weekend with Antrim away to KK?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2012, 08:19:06 PM
Have been asking this question all week, posted on the Antrim Gaa site they said get your sec to ask CCC, done, still waiting reply ffs. Think they are looking to have the games on Sunday night, after your county players have played two games and traveled up from Kilkenny!!!!

Who makes this stuff up?

County footballers are away to for bonding!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 29, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Fixtures are down for 5.30 & 7pm. If the matches are to be played that is unbelievable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 29, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Fixtures are down for 5.30 & 7pm. If the matches are to be played that is unbelievable.

I've the originals and they said 3pm. So there you have it, they will knock the stuffing out of the county players and expect them to play a hurling match later, player welfare and burn out?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 29, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
The joys of senior management!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 08:56:07 PM
Forecast for u21 games:_

Rossa
St Galls
Sarsfields
C'dall
B'castle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 29, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
Who would be the favourites for the U21 championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
Johnnies, in my view.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 29, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
Johnnies, in my view.
Ur ballix buckwheat!  R u taking the magic mushrooms?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 10:07:39 PM
Plato- Stay out of the sun or wear a hat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 29, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: Interesting on April 29, 2012, 10:07:39 PM
Plato- Stay out of the sun or wear a hat.
Think ur hilarious,  I 've no fukin ears  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 30, 2012, 07:23:24 AM
U-21's will be interesting, Cushendall, St. John's, Rossa, Ballycastle and Loughgiel would all be in with a shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 30, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
Duckie, what do you do? :o
Sweet lord - deary deary me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 30, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
Paddies top of Div 2 with more or less their U21 team must be in with a shout if they can get past the shamrocks tonight. Rossa have had a lot of good young hurlers the past few years. Might be another year or 2 before we see that good johnnies team coming thru but all in all makes for a great competition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
What about Dick stepping down??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 30, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 30, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
Duckie, what do you do? :o
Sweet lord - deary deary me!
What do I do? Well some say I am a converter of virg**s, g*ys, footballers, but not specifically in that order. They are all an abomination, well Iris told me so  ;)!  Other than that, I work in communications.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
What about Dick stepping down??
t

yeah your right on the money SG, the official stance on this is family commitments but nothing could be further from the truth. The relationship with Wallis and his whole backroom team is very fragile. You can expect another high profile selector resignation soon as well. This comes from a reliable source and the situation seems to be that the tail is wagging the dog at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on April 30, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
From Hogan Stand

Antrim hurling manager Jerry Wallace is on the look-out for a new selector after Gregory O'Kane opted out.The Dunloy clubman, who also served as a selector under Wallace's predecessor Dinny Cahill and managed the Ulster inter-provincial team earlier this year, has cited family commitments as his reason for stepping down. Jim Nelson, who led Antrim to an ill-fated All-Ireland final appearance against Tipperary in 1989, is being tipped to replace O'Kane.

Antrim, who will face Westmeath in their Leinster SHC opener on May 19, play Ballyhale Shamrocks next Saturday evening in Kilmacow, Co. Kilkenny in a game which will raise funds for Crumlin Children's Hospital in Dublin. Henry Shefflin is expected to make his long-awaited return from a shoulder injury in the same game.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
I'm more worried that we won't have our better players due to county training weekends this Sunday, CCC want us to play away and this league is really tight. Hope we win, but will be difficult
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 30, 2012, 02:57:45 PM
True - I noticed on the county website the delightful Admin stating that we are one of the only counties that arrange fixtures for county players to play. Well I have news for them - the players belong to clubs not county! They were nurtured at clubs and will return to clubs.

I am all for throwing everything behind the county but when our seasons are fairly routine (win Ulster, maybe one or two wins in leinster, show over) should we not prioritise the bread and butter of clubs. After all, the stronger the club scene the stronger the county will be in turn. A rising tide lifts all boats.

I think its a bit nuts asking county men to travel the length of Ireland to return for their clubs - some will some wont, which will cause division. The weekend should have been arranged at a more suitable time, and if that cannot be done then it should not happen at all.

And thats coming from a fervent Antrim supporter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on April 30, 2012, 03:38:16 PM
It will have to be someone from NA, the city lads don't know S*** from S***** ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.

We all know div 1 teams don't give a shite about the leagues, but the teams looking promotion from 4/3 and 2 don't have much room for defeats. The footballers are away also, thats another two of the our hurling team, 4 main players away ffs!! Madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I wouldnt say all the Div 1 teams don't give a toss..ok it's not the priority. Look at last years div 1..it went down to the final match of the season.
The admin on the county website is a total ballbag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 30, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I wouldnt say all the Div 1 teams don't give a toss..ok it's not the priority. Look at last years div 1..it went down to the final match of the season.
The admin on the county website is a total ballbag.

If you're at the bottom end of it you most certainly give a shite.

Loughgeil, Cushendall etc probably don't have to exert themselves too much to be in with a shout come November in all fairness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 30, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.

We all know div 1 teams don't give a shite about the leagues, but the teams looking promotion from 4/3 and 2 don't have much room for defeats. The footballers are away also, thats another two of the our hurling team, 4 main players away ffs!! Madness
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.

We all know div 1 teams don't give a shite about the leagues, but the teams looking promotion from 4/3 and 2 don't have much room for defeats. The footballers are away also, thats another two of the our hurling team, 4 main players away ffs!! Madness
Agreed Milltown as we have said for a long time gaining promotion from the lower leagues is a scrap and very often balances on luck in terms of player availability. This is a potential boot in the henrys for St.Galls for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 30, 2012, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 30, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.

We all know div 1 teams don't give a shite about the leagues, but the teams looking promotion from 4/3 and 2 don't have much room for defeats. The footballers are away also, thats another two of the our hurling team, 4 main players away ffs!! Madness
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
The leagues are a joke anyway what club takes them seriously in the top division?
They play the games and most of the time are not overly concerned win lose or draw.

If JW thinks this is the way to prepare the team then go for it.

Sympathise with the Div 2 teams who have players involved as their games are more meaningful and close.

We all know div 1 teams don't give a shite about the leagues, but the teams looking promotion from 4/3 and 2 don't have much room for defeats. The footballers are away also, thats another two of the our hurling team, 4 main players away ffs!! Madness
Agreed Milltown as we have said for a long time gaining promotion from the lower leagues is a scrap and very often balances on luck in terms of player availability. This is a potential boot in the henrys for St.Galls for sure.
St. Galls don't have any 'Henrys' well not at the moment anyway.  The McG's cost them too much apparently, hip, knee operations and cosmetics  ;) :D

Joking apart, this could certainly be hard on St. Galls given the competitiveness of Div. 2.  Not such a factor or impact on the top Tier as Championship is all that matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on April 30, 2012, 05:15:08 PM
I think this years U21 championship will be super.So many strong teams in with a chance.Rossa,Lgiel,Cushendall even ourselves could be in with a chance.As well i fancy St Kevins to do very well with the amount of talented players in their ranks!Any predictions for tonights games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on April 30, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
Lads , i can only speak on Cushendalls behalf , that in the last two years the league has been taken a lot more seriously due mainly to the fact that we are searching for new talent and that's were you blood kids try different things out. Anybody that was in the 100 or so at the Tain league final on Saturday in Casement will testify to Our effort in winning it. We had 2 new backs on and gave another young lad another 60 minutes hurling at senior level, We brought on young Eoghan Campbell in midfield and he did well, but we need new blood and quickly, over the next 2/3 years we have some great kids coming through so the league will be vital to us. Its to easy for outsiders to say we don't care but that's far from the truth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I wouldnt say all the Div 1 teams don't give a toss..ok it's not the priority. Look at last years div 1..it went down to the final match of the season.
The admin on the county website is a total ballbag.

Agreed

If the clubs were to say that 4 of their best players are not available due to a training weekend arranged by the clubs they would call a halt on it right away, Can you imagine if Hippy, McManus, Shane and McCloskey were held back by their clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on April 30, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I wouldnt say all the Div 1 teams don't give a toss..ok it's not the priority. Look at last years div 1..it went down to the final match of the season.
The admin on the county website is a total ballbag.

Agreed

If the clubs were to say that 4 of their best players are not available due to a training weekend arranged by the clubs they would call a halt on it right away, Can you imagine if Hippy, McManus, Shane and McCloskey were held back by their clubs?

He is an absolute, humourless ballbag of the highest order
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Gold on April 30, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 30, 2012, 04:33:16 PM
I wouldnt say all the Div 1 teams don't give a toss..ok it's not the priority. Look at last years div 1..it went down to the final match of the season.
The admin on the county website is a total ballbag.

Agreed

If the clubs were to say that 4 of their best players are not available due to a training weekend arranged by the clubs they would call a halt on it right away, Can you imagine if Hippy, McManus, Shane and McCloskey were held back by their clubs?

He is an absolute, humourless ballbag of the highest order

Another typical response from the admin. Obviously someone who has never taken a team nor understands the difficulties of running a team. By his logic we shouldn't need our best players to win a match, by his logic it's grand to call a training weekend on the weekend of club hurling games!! By his logic the county is right and everyone else is wrong :o

Laughable, offers no debate at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
Sars 0-04 LG 0-11, Paddies down to 14 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2012, 08:05:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
Sars 0-04 LG 0-11, Paddies down to 14 men.

The more things change........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
Sars 0-06 LG 1-14, 10 mins gone second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 08:32:42 PM
FT  Sarsfields 1-06 Shamrocks 1-19
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2012, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on April 28, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
I just realised,at an early point in the debate, that the expertise or intellectual ability did not exist on the forum to give the subject a fair hearing.

I love the irony of this statement ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on April 30, 2012, 09:43:41 PM
yeah !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on April 30, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
Great win for the Loughgiel lads tonight against the Paddies.  Dirty show of fuk-hirs, nothing has changed with the Paddies unfortunately,  dam near decapitated a young Loughiel lad.  That boy Duffy had his hands full refereeing this one and although I am no lover of referees, would have to say he done a fine job (obviously Duffy is not Maninblackandgreen) as I has previously thought.  Paddies tried to bully the Loughgiel lads, fair play to Duffy he let them get on with it, but the Paddies could not handle the physicality of the opposition and resorted to dirty, sinister and wild pulling tactics.  As a neutral, the Paddies should not have been on the same pitch, totally outclassed by superior fitness and hurling ability. I was ashamed to be a Belfast man this evening, the language and abuse towards the official from the Paddies sideline was terrible.   I will think twice about going back to the Bear Pit with my young son after the sinister Paddies antics.  If that is the way the young hurlers are sent out to try and bully and maim their opponents, god help us all.  Hopefully the remainder of our young city teams will give a better account of themselves. Absolute disgrace.

(Maninbalckandgreen) thank goodness I did not have to pay in to see this complete travesty.

By the way, the scoreline speaks volumes  01-19 to 1.6 (flattering to say the least for the Paddies).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on April 30, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
From Hogan Stand

Antrim hurling manager Jerry Wallace is on the look-out for a new selector after Gregory O'Kane opted out.The Dunloy clubman, who also served as a selector under Wallace's predecessor Dinny Cahill and managed the Ulster inter-provincial team earlier this year, has cited family commitments as his reason for stepping down. Jim Nelson, who led Antrim to an ill-fated All-Ireland final appearance against Tipperary in 1989, is being tipped to replace O'Kane.

Antrim, who will face Westmeath in their Leinster SHC opener on May 19, play Ballyhale Shamrocks next Saturday evening in Kilmacow, Co. Kilkenny in a game which will raise funds for Crumlin Children's Hospital in Dublin. Henry Shefflin is expected to make his long-awaited return from a shoulder injury in the same game.


Thoughts?
I'll be very surprised if Jim goes anywhere the Antrim set up at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 30, 2012, 10:43:40 PM
it might mean you move up one on the side line SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 30, 2012, 10:43:40 PM
it might mean you move up one on the side line SIE
I'm nothing to do with the sideline saffron89, I'm only a mere supporter.    :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 11:15:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
What about Dick stepping down??
t

yeah your right on the money SG, the official stance on this is family commitments but nothing could be further from the truth. The relationship with Wallis and his whole backroom team is very fragile. You can expect another high profile selector resignation soon as well. This comes from a reliable source and the situation seems to be that the tail is wagging the dog at the minute.
i no it couldnt be further from the truth mate,  but i didnt wanna come on like other posters spouting shite.    and its not wallis,   he has got nothing but antrim in his thoughts,  fair play, he can see the bigger picture.   that other man is well named!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on April 30, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.

That's the St Kevin's team, made up for Carey, Armoy and Cloughmills. Some real good hurlers on that team. St Paul's didn't field away to us. Disappointing to hear at 5.40pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 30, 2012, 11:52:51 PM
Catch yourself on! Gregory O'Kane has been an absolutely brilliant player for Antrim and is loyal to a fault.  He's well within his rights to walk away, it is afterall an amateur sport.  Gregory O'Kane owes Antrim nothing



Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 11:15:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
What about Dick stepping down??
t

yeah your right on the money SG, the official stance on this is family commitments but nothing could be further from the truth. The relationship with Wallis and his whole backroom team is very fragile. You can expect another high profile selector resignation soon as well. This comes from a reliable source and the situation seems to be that the tail is wagging the dog at the minute.
i no it couldnt be further from the truth mate,  but i didnt wanna come on like other posters spouting shite.    and its not wallis,   he has got nothing but antrim in his thoughts,  fair play, he can see the bigger picture.   that other man is well named!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 01, 2012, 12:14:32 AM
i didn't say he wasn't a good player for antrim and i didn't say he owes them anything,  this took me back to casement bar a few weeks back,   Dicks some man!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2012, 12:37:15 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 01, 2012, 12:14:32 AM
i didn't say he wasn't a good player for antrim and i didn't say he owes them anything,  this took me back to casement bar a few weeks back,   Dicks some man!!!

better be a dick by name than a dick by nature such as yourself. only thing bugging you is the club he comes from. as for what happened in casement you had to drag that up again. whatever happened only a real dick would be on whinging on facebook about it. how much have scored for antrim over your carear of my guess is you never even wore the jersey. at least he didnt head on down to crossmaglen and make a dick of himself there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 01, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Lol.  You would be wrong.   Did wear it for a year actually,   Hope the true story comes out about the great dick,   For after all his hurling accomplishments,  a dick is what he is.  Small taste for you,  he was asked to leave. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2012, 01:23:16 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 01, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Lol.  You would be wrong.   Did wear it for a year actually,   Hope the true story comes out about the great dick,   For after all his hurling accomplishments,  a dick is what he is.  Small taste for you,  he was asked to leave.

oh so you wore the jersey for a year, you must have smelled bad. only won person round this forum making a dick out themselves and that's you. your neither well informed or intelligent enough to have a debate on this subject. clowns like you remind how easy it is to type insults on a  thread about someone when the reality the said person would hurl you up a pole. As for him being asked to leave a total nonsense. now your just lying to justify your rants. I wouldn't  normally respond to a half wit but sometimes when there typing pure dribble about someone who doesn't deserve it ill defend them. go and look in your own back yard if your looking for a dick how is embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 07:00:40 AM
Quote from: El Plato on April 30, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
Great win for the Loughgiel lads tonight against the Paddies.  Dirty show of fuk-hirs, nothing has changed with the Paddies unfortunately,  dam near decapitated a young Loughiel lad.  That boy Duffy had his hands full refereeing this one and although I am no lover of referees, would have to say he done a fine job (obviously Duffy is not Maninblackandgreen) as I has previously thought.  Paddies tried to bully the Loughgiel lads, fair play to Duffy he let them get on with it, but the Paddies could not handle the physicality of the opposition and resorted to dirty, sinister and wild pulling tactics.  As a neutral, the Paddies should not have been on the same pitch, totally outclassed by superior fitness and hurling ability. I was ashamed to be a Belfast man this evening, the language and abuse towards the official from the Paddies sideline was terrible.   I will think twice about going back to the Bear Pit with my young son after the sinister Paddies antics.  If that is the way the young hurlers are sent out to try and bully and maim their opponents, god help us all.  Hopefully the remainder of our young city teams will give a better account of themselves. Absolute disgrace.

(Maninbalckandgreen) thank goodness I did not have to pay in to see this complete travesty.

By the way, the scoreline speaks volumes  01-19 to 1.6 (flattering to say the least for the Paddies).

I did alright then Plato! Whew that's a relieve :o Jesus you seem to be very hard on Sarsfields, was it that bad!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
MIBAG dont even respond to that post, he is just attempting to get a reaction out of the posters on the board, best to be ignored.

As for Sleeping Giant, if you have something to say about GO'K lets hear it, that is if you know the story behind it, which I doubt.
If not then no need to jump on the rumour mill slating when you havent a clue.

No one on here can question a player who gave at least ten years service to Antrim and then more as a coach. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 30, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.

That's the St Kevin's team, made up for Carey, Armoy and Cloughmills. Some real good hurlers on that team. St Paul's didn't field away to us. Disappointing to hear at 5.40pm

they was all away wins so mebbe youse should be havin a sigh of relief  :)

Have youse a decent under 21 side? They mebbe could do with a run out.

Was anyone at any of the games? Any pointers to the winners?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 09:31:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 30, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.

That's the St Kevin's team, made up for Carey, Armoy and Cloughmills. Some real good hurlers on that team. St Paul's didn't field away to us. Disappointing to hear at 5.40pm

they was all away wins so mebbe youse should be havin a sigh of relief  :)

Have youse a decent under 21 side? They mebbe could do with a run out.

Was anyone at any of the games? Any pointers to the winners?

I would have hoped we would have bucked the trend  ;)

I'm sure they could have done with the game last night, not sure where games would get fitted in now, apparently we now play Dunloy on Monday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 09:31:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 30, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.

That's the St Kevin's team, made up for Carey, Armoy and Cloughmills. Some real good hurlers on that team. St Paul's didn't field away to us. Disappointing to hear at 5.40pm

they was all away wins so mebbe youse should be havin a sigh of relief  :)

Have youse a decent under 21 side? They mebbe could do with a run out.

Was anyone at any of the games? Any pointers to the winners?

I would have hoped we would have bucked the trend  ;)

I'm sure they could have done with the game last night, not sure where games would get fitted in now, apparently we now play Dunloy on Monday night

Are Cushendall playing without 6 of there players on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 09:31:43 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on April 30, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 30, 2012, 10:31:04 PM

Lamh Dhearg 1-7     2-19  Rossa

Naomh Gall  0-6       2-15    Carey

Sarsfields 1-6          1-20      Loughgiel

Gort na Mona  0-8   5-13  Ballycastle

Ony result a bit surprisin is the Galls v Carey. Big margin there.

That's the St Kevin's team, made up for Carey, Armoy and Cloughmills. Some real good hurlers on that team. St Paul's didn't field away to us. Disappointing to hear at 5.40pm

they was all away wins so mebbe youse should be havin a sigh of relief  :)

Have youse a decent under 21 side? They mebbe could do with a run out.

Was anyone at any of the games? Any pointers to the winners?

I would have hoped we would have bucked the trend  ;)

I'm sure they could have done with the game last night, not sure where games would get fitted in now, apparently we now play Dunloy on Monday night

Are Cushendall playing without 6 of there players on Sunday?

MR2 can your club not contact Tir Na nog and get the match refixed for the middle of the week would that not solve any problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o

Play the game as fixed, give your fringe players a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:12:36 AM
Totaly agree with minder

We are also chasing promotion and as far as I am aware we are playing on Sunday.

We are the only county that attempts to have county players available for all league games. Sometimes we have to play without.

We havent had our best 15 at all this year so far due to injury and we are just getting on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o

Play the game as fixed, give your fringe players a chance.

We probably will but this isn't a the correct way to do it, surely you agree with that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
What other way is ther to do it without playing league games during the winter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:12:36 AM
Totaly agree with minder

We are also chasing promotion and as far as I am aware we are playing on Sunday.

We are the only county that attempts to have county players available for all league games. Sometimes we have to play without.

We havent had our best 15 at all this year so far due to injury and we are just getting on with it.
Are you saying that as a Glenariffe supporter? You have 2 county players. Playing a team with 2 county players. Galls have a good few playing a team with one. That's a huge disadvantage

The matches should be moved if a club request it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:35:01 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:12:36 AM
Totaly agree with minder

We are also chasing promotion and as far as I am aware we are playing on Sunday.

We are the only county that attempts to have county players available for all league games. Sometimes we have to play without.

We havent had our best 15 at all this year so far due to injury and we are just getting on with it.
Are you saying that as a Glenariffe supporter? You have 2 county players. Playing a team with 2 county players. Galls have a good few playing a team with one. That's a huge disadvantage

The matches should be moved if a club request it.

I'm saying that as a Glenariffe supporter.

We are loosing our goalkeeper and have no replacment.

it the second club agrees to the refix then there is no problem. Its up to the clubs to agree a new date.

If you have problems with how the fixtures are being organised do something about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
What other way is ther to do it without playing league games during the winter

Look I really have no problem playing the match, would rather have the full availability of the panel, what balloon wouldn't? My problem is that the County created a set of fixtures which I have no doubt was given to the county managers, the county managers then have arranged a training weekend (which I think is important also for development) on a date that we have club games, It's a no brainer, surely it could be done when there was a set of football fixtures. Am I the only one who sees this?

Ok I'm starting to irritate myself with this, rant over :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
What other way is ther to do it without playing league games during the winter

Look I really have no problem playing the match, would rather have the full availability of the panel, what balloon wouldn't? My problem is that the County created a set of fixtures which I have no doubt was given to the county managers, the county managers then have arranged a training weekend (which I think is important also for development) on a date that we have club games, It's a no brainer, surely it could be done when there was a set of football fixtures. Am I the only one who sees this?

Ok I'm starting to irritate myself with this, rant over :o

I agree it could have been handled better but for the county to develop they need these training games.

You have a big enough squad with some good young players this is a good chance to develop them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
Listen Oisin if you had 5/6 players on the county panel you wouldn't be saying that. As MR2 says the fixtures where set out in advance & they could have been moved if it was known that the county panel were going to KK.

This argument about playing without county players is a pile of shite. Who gives a f**k what they do in other counties.

By the way I don't mind the panel going to KK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 10:25:03 AM
What other way is ther to do it without playing league games during the winter

Look I really have no problem playing the match, would rather have the full availability of the panel, what balloon wouldn't? My problem is that the County created a set of fixtures which I have no doubt was given to the county managers, the county managers then have arranged a training weekend (which I think is important also for development) on a date that we have club games, It's a no brainer, surely it could be done when there was a set of football fixtures. Am I the only one who sees this?

Ok I'm starting to irritate myself with this, rant over :o

I agree it could have been handled better but for the county to develop they need these training games.

You have a big enough squad with some good young players this is a good chance to develop them

We do and we managed to play without 5 of the players that played against your team the other week, Makers, Karl, the ff and hf and midfielder against Carey and managed a good enough win. Played two new debutants so it's not as if we don't play fringe players.

I've said already, I don't mind them going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
Listen Oisin if you had 5/6 players on the county panel you wouldn't be saying that. As MR2 says the fixtures where set out in advance & they could have been moved if it was known that the county panel were going to KK.

This argument about playing without county players is a pile of shite. Who gives a f**k what they do in other counties.

By the way I don't mind the panel going to KK.

We dont have 6 players on the panel

loughguile has 6 players on the panel and not one of them are on here complaining.

Thats why we all have a squad of players. You will be lucky to have the same starting 15 two or 3 games in a row

If people are concerned with loosing there players to the county they they need to come up with an alternative and pupose it at congress.

Nothing will be achived complaining about if on a forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o

Play the game as fixed, give your fringe players a chance.

We probably will but this isn't a the correct way to do it, surely you agree with that?

What I mean is St Galls play the game as fixed and we will get ours moved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
Listen Oisin if you had 5/6 players on the county panel you wouldn't be saying that. As MR2 says the fixtures where set out in advance & they could have been moved if it was known that the county panel were going to KK.

This argument about playing without county players is a pile of shite. Who gives a f**k what they do in other counties.

By the way I don't mind the panel going to KK.

We dont have 6 players on the panel

loughguile has 6 players on the panel and not one of them are on here complaining.

Thats why we all have a squad of players. You will be lucky to have the same starting 15 two or 3 games in a row

If people are concerned with loosing there players to the county they they need to come up with an alternative and pupose it at congress.

Nothing will be achived complaining about if on a forum.I
The fixtures are set out at the start of the season agreed by the clubs, the county managers & the CCC to make sure the fixtures are played with county players.

Some teams can afford to play without county players..some can't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o

Play the game as fixed, give your fringe players a chance.

We probably will but this isn't a the correct way to do it, surely you agree with that?

What I mean is St Galls play the game as fixed and we will get ours moved.

:o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on May 01, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
Is the next round of the Under 21 championship on Monday 7th May?

are you allowed to play minors on the under 21 team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2012, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Trying, but you still have to go through ccc, football games/ county training during week also, bit of a mess. Caused by the county who are trying to promote Gaelic games!! :o

Play the game as fixed, give your fringe players a chance.

We probably will but this isn't a the correct way to do it, surely you agree with that?

What I mean is St Galls play the game as fixed and we will get ours moved.

:o :o

It's a f**king joke, it would have been a good opportunity for us to put the upstart Paddies in their place, with a full squad but it could go either way if both of our fellas aren't there. They historically travel very badly to the seaside.

As Two Hands said some teams can afford to be without county players and some can't, we (like St Galls I would imagine) can't afford to be without anyone never mind our best player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
Listen Oisin if you had 5/6 players on the county panel you wouldn't be saying that. As MR2 says the fixtures where set out in advance & they could have been moved if it was known that the county panel were going to KK.

This argument about playing without county players is a pile of shite. Who gives a f**k what they do in other counties.

By the way I don't mind the panel going to KK.

We dont have 6 players on the panel

loughguile has 6 players on the panel and not one of them are on here complaining.

Thats why we all have a squad of players. You will be lucky to have the same starting 15 two or 3 games in a row

If people are concerned with loosing there players to the county they they need to come up with an alternative and pupose it at congress.

Nothing will be achived complaining about if on a forum.I
The fixtures are set out at the start of the season agreed by the clubs, the county managers & the CCC to make sure the fixtures are played with county players.

Some teams can afford to play without county players..some can't.

So you would rather see your club do well rather than the Country
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
Listen Oisin if you had 5/6 players on the county panel you wouldn't be saying that. As MR2 says the fixtures where set out in advance & they could have been moved if it was known that the county panel were going to KK.

This argument about playing without county players is a pile of shite. Who gives a f**k what they do in other counties.

By the way I don't mind the panel going to KK.

We dont have 6 players on the panel

loughguile has 6 players on the panel and not one of them are on here complaining.

Thats why we all have a squad of players. You will be lucky to have the same starting 15 two or 3 games in a row

If people are concerned with loosing there players to the county they they need to come up with an alternative and pupose it at congress.

Nothing will be achived complaining about if on a forum.I
The fixtures are set out at the start of the season agreed by the clubs, the county managers & the CCC to make sure the fixtures are played with county players.

Some teams can afford to play without county players..some can't.

So you would rather see your club do well rather than the Country
Club over Country..club..sure it's only the shinty
Club v county...club every day..most people are the same

I still would like Antrim to win..my problem is with the arseholes on the county board/website who think its ok to play games without county players.. These weekend games should be moved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2012, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on May 01, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
Is the next round of the Under 21 championship on Monday 7th May?

are you allowed to play minors on the under 21 team
As far as I know the quarter finals are on next Monday evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Antrim website has the under 21 quarter finals on Monday 7th May


Cushendall  v  Dunloy

Rossa  v  Ballycastle

Loughgeil v Rasharkin

Carey(St Kevins)  v  St Johns

Loughgeil gettin the easy draw again  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 01, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
MIBAG dont even respond to that post, he is just attempting to get a reaction out of the posters on the board, best to be ignored.

As for Sleeping Giant, if you have something to say about GO'K lets hear it, that is if you know the story behind it, which I doubt.
If not then no need to jump on the rumour mill slating when you havent a clue.

No one on here can question a player who gave at least ten years service to Antrim and then more as a coach.
I didn't question him as a player.  Just the excuse that is used for leaving.   Can't argue that he wasn't a great servant to Antrim!!  To many cooks spoils the broth and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
Yes but you were insinuating something about his reason for leaving without knowing the truth and my point is that you are in no position to question him or his motives.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2012, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Antrim website has the under 21 quarter finals on Monday 7th May


Cushendall  v  Dunloy

Rossa  v  Ballycastle

Loughgeil v Rasharkin

Carey(St Kevins)  v  St Johns

Loughgeil gettin the easy draw again  :o
It must have been fixed.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
By the way, Jim Nelson isn't joining the Antrim set up as speculated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2012, 01:17:44 PM
A'noon, at the Galls / St Brendans Kevins (apologies) games last night. A real decent physical encounter between both. Lack of numbers in the St Galls squad might have been the downfall (not sure if they had many more to choose from) but they give it everything. Didnt have it up front and only 2 subs. St Brendans worked hard for their goals but some of their points would grace any county ground, good stick work and seemed up for it. Versus the Johnnies should be a good game in the next round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 01, 2012, 01:54:29 PM
The league title dare i say it is irrelevant to loughgeil and cushendall etc as they will be concentrating on championship and at some matches during the year will have their full squad to pick from and will therefore secure enough points to avoid relegation. Take St Johns though for talk sake and no disrespect intended but most likely come the end of teh season they will be fighting relegation...will they be happy to play matches without 4 of their starting 15, supposedly 4 of their better players ?

The same applies to lower division teams who are fighting for promotion...why should they be at a disadvantage and play without their county players...that could mean the difference between promotion and not.....doesnt take much brains to arrange these weeekends away correctly. Losing 4 main players to county puts st galls in a really bad situation and wehen you add to that the usual absentees due to injury and holidays a then that number then becomes a lot highter. The holidays and injuries are something that every club has to deal with and I accept that nothing can be doen about that but county weekends away is something that can be solved very easily.

St kevins were very impressive last night, physical and greta stick work with some excellent scores. St galls tried but didnt have the firepower up front... I dont think st galls lost it on the line but it certainly didnt help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2012, 01:17:44 PM
A'noon, at the Galls / St Brendans games last night. A real decent physical encounter between both. Lack of numbers in the St Galls squad might have been the downfall (not sure if they had many more to choose from) but they give it everything. Didnt have it up front and only 2 subs. St Brendans worked hard for their goals but some of their points would grace any county ground, good stick work and seemed up for it. Versus the Johnnies should be a good game in the next round.

Its St Kevins JC, different make up of clubs than St Brendans

I don't think our U21 match is going ahead on Monday. Players were told that if we were to get past St Pauls last night then the game v Dunloy wouldn't be on Monday due to Dunloys Ice Dancing fundraiser being on Sunday. Not sure when it will be played yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
You give an honest assessment of the Paddies v Loughgeil game and all you get is ridicule.  Well I was at the game, can you say the same?  It ended up as not the pick of the bunch as maninblackandgreen suggested it might be.  It was an utter disgrace.  You have all heard of the Shankill Butchers I'm sure, last nigh t was a clear case of the Paddies Butchers.  A real shame, cause some of them kids can hurl a bit.  It's such a pity their tactics were the Paddies of Old (batter the fuk-hirs - win at all costs)  Loughgeil lads just knuckled down and got on with it despite the dirty tactics, this lead to their superior ability to hurl well, hurl tough and sicken the Paddies.  Thank god their was no entrance fee to watch sheer  unadulterated trash being played by a group of young Belfast lads. 

This would have proved a game well beyond the control of most referees, give Duff his fair dues, he handled it well and I am not one for crediting Antrim hurling referees.  If I was the ref, I would have sent at least 3 other Paddies men off.  My young son even said after the game, "why did the green and black player hit the red player whilst he was lying on the ground, is that in the rules" -  there ya have it! and he only seven.  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Oisin are you stupid or something? People not doing anything about it? These fixtures were agreed at the start of the year by the clubs...these fixtures are being changed due to the senior county team going away for the weekend. Some clubs have asked to move them & they aren't allowed to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Oisin are you stupid or something? People not doing anything about it? These fixtures were agreed at the start of the year by the clubs...these fixtures are being changed due to the senior county team going away for the weekend. Some clubs have asked to move them & they aren't allowed to.

I dont know what club you are from so I am going to generalise here.

You contact the Club you are playing ask for a refix because you are missing 6 players due to the county being away.

if thhe other club agrees you inform CCC of the chage due to this.

Two hands have you personaly done anything about it. Are you your club secetary?

The same argument happens every year.

I asked earlier how do you fix this without playing games in the winter?

just because I do not agree with you does not require you to personaly insult me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
You give an honest assessment of the Paddies v Loughgeil game and all you get is ridicule.  Well I was at the game, can you say the same?  It ended up as not the pick of the bunch as maninblackandgreen suggested it might be.  It was an utter disgrace.  You have all heard of the Shankill Butchers I'm sure, last nigh t was a clear case of the Paddies Butchers.  A real shame, cause some of them kids can hurl a bit.  It's such a pity their tactics were the Paddies of Old (batter the fuk-hirs - win at all costs)  Loughgeil lads just knuckled down and got on with it despite the dirty tactics, this lead to their superior ability to hurl well, hurl tough and sicken the Paddies.  Thank god their was no entrance fee to watch sheer  unadulterated trash being played by a group of young Belfast lads. 

This would have proved a game well beyond the control of most referees, give Duff his fair dues, he handled it well and I am not one for crediting Antrim hurling referees.  If I was the ref, I would have sent at least 3 other Paddies men off.  My young son even said after the game, "why did the green and black player hit the red player whilst he was lying on the ground, is that in the rules" -  there ya have it! and he only seven.  :(

Anyone else getting completely fed up with this trash?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
You give an honest assessment of the Paddies v Loughgeil game and all you get is ridicule.  Well I was at the game, can you say the same?  It ended up as not the pick of the bunch as maninblackandgreen suggested it might be.  It was an utter disgrace.  You have all heard of the Shankill Butchers I'm sure, last nigh t was a clear case of the Paddies Butchers.  A real shame, cause some of them kids can hurl a bit.  It's such a pity their tactics were the Paddies of Old (batter the fuk-hirs - win at all costs)  Loughgeil lads just knuckled down and got on with it despite the dirty tactics, this lead to their superior ability to hurl well, hurl tough and sicken the Paddies.  Thank god their was no entrance fee to watch sheer  unadulterated trash being played by a group of young Belfast lads. 

This would have proved a game well beyond the control of most referees, give Duff his fair dues, he handled it well and I am not one for crediting Antrim hurling referees.  If I was the ref, I would have sent at least 3 other Paddies men off.  My young son even said after the game, "why did the green and black player hit the red player whilst he was lying on the ground, is that in the rules" -  there ya have it! and he only seven.  :(

Anyone else getting completely fed up with this trash?

Look it's the same boyo that was here before, and before and before!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Oisin are you stupid or something? People not doing anything about it? These fixtures were agreed at the start of the year by the clubs...these fixtures are being changed due to the senior county team going away for the weekend. Some clubs have asked to move them & they aren't allowed to.

I dont know what club you are from so I am going to generalise here.

You contact the Club you are playing ask for a refix because you are missing 6 players due to the county being away.

if thhe other club agrees you inform CCC of the chage due to this.

Two hands have you personaly done anything about it. Are you your club secetary?

The same argument happens every year.

I asked earlier how do you fix this without playing games in the winter?

just because I do not agree with you does not require you to personaly insult me.

Oisinog, is that what happened with yourselves and Dunloy last year  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Oisin are you stupid or something? People not doing anything about it? These fixtures were agreed at the start of the year by the clubs...these fixtures are being changed due to the senior county team going away for the weekend. Some clubs have asked to move them & they aren't allowed to.

I dont know what club you are from so I am going to generalise here.

You contact the Club you are playing ask for a refix because you are missing 6 players due to the county being away.

if thhe other club agrees you inform CCC of the chage due to this.

Two hands have you personaly done anything about it. Are you your club secetary?

The same argument happens every year.

I asked earlier how do you fix this without playing games in the winter?

just because I do not agree with you does not require you to personaly insult me.

Oisinog, is that what happened with yourselves and Dunloy last year  ;D

I take take a bit of blame there further information came to light after the incident and lets just say I was wrong NAG

Someone in our club didnt inform the manager of this weeks before. If the managment had recieved the request at the time dunloy asked we would have changed it.

This was a case of mis information and then someone covering their own ass
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it
Oisin are you stupid or something? People not doing anything about it? These fixtures were agreed at the start of the year by the clubs...these fixtures are being changed due to the senior county team going away for the weekend. Some clubs have asked to move them & they aren't allowed to.

I dont know what club you are from so I am going to generalise here.

You contact the Club you are playing ask for a refix because you are missing 6 players due to the county being away.

if thhe other club agrees you inform CCC of the chage due to this.

Two hands have you personaly done anything about it. Are you your club secetary?

The same argument happens every year.

I asked earlier how do you fix this without playing games in the winter?

just because I do not agree with you does not require you to personaly insult me.
The clubs have agreed but the county won't let them move the matches. You seem to have difficulty understanding these fixtures were arranged before the county weekend away was arranged when Wallace said he had no problem with any of the dates.
I haven't done anything personally about it...do I need to?

There are plenty of weekends at the end of July/start of August for a match to be refixed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:01:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 03:04:46 PM
You give an honest assessment of the Paddies v Loughgeil game and all you get is ridicule.  Well I was at the game, can you say the same?  It ended up as not the pick of the bunch as maninblackandgreen suggested it might be.  It was an utter disgrace.  You have all heard of the Shankill Butchers I'm sure, last nigh t was a clear case of the Paddies Butchers.  A real shame, cause some of them kids can hurl a bit.  It's such a pity their tactics were the Paddies of Old (batter the fuk-hirs - win at all costs)  Loughgeil lads just knuckled down and got on with it despite the dirty tactics, this lead to their superior ability to hurl well, hurl tough and sicken the Paddies.  Thank god their was no entrance fee to watch sheer  unadulterated trash being played by a group of young Belfast lads. 

This would have proved a game well beyond the control of most referees, give Duff his fair dues, he handled it well and I am not one for crediting Antrim hurling referees.  If I was the ref, I would have sent at least 3 other Paddies men off.  My young son even said after the game, "why did the green and black player hit the red player whilst he was lying on the ground, is that in the rules" -  there ya have it! and he only seven.  :(

Anyone else getting completely fed up with this trash?
And your posts are always so stimulating, what's wrong, you don't like facts and a detailed account of events. Get over yourself Nob.  :D

"El Pato for GAABoard News, from the Bear Pit" - end of news flash.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2012, 01:17:44 PM
A'noon, at the Galls / St Brendans games last night. A real decent physical encounter between both. Lack of numbers in the St Galls squad might have been the downfall (not sure if they had many more to choose from) but they give it everything. Didnt have it up front and only 2 subs. St Brendans worked hard for their goals but some of their points would grace any county ground, good stick work and seemed up for it. Versus the Johnnies should be a good game in the next round.

Its St Kevins JC, different make up of clubs than St Brendans

I don't think our U21 match is going ahead on Monday. Players were told that if we were to get past St Pauls last night then the game v Dunloy wouldn't be on Monday due to Dunloys Ice Dancing fundraiser being on Sunday. Not sure when it will be played yet

Saturday night 5.00 pm dont know the venue, i say because we requested the change it will be in the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
Two hands Why wont the county agree to it?

If you want to do something about it you make a suggestion to your club and they can bring it up a congress.

In August we have the championship so the same problem would come up again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
El Plato happy to see the Referee did his job, not often they get credit but do you not think you are over cooking his performance, knowing the man he wouldn't thank you for this, Elliot, Hassan and Duffy all work hard at there game, and nothing beats there national experience when it is needed, Herbie shouldn't be to far behind when he gets up to speed in the year ahead also. I think in Hurling we are lucky that we have 4 good referee's and when you look at other counties we should try to appreciate what we do have a lot of the time forgetting parish and club rivalry. Football in the county is another matter, we are poor at present IMO. We still IMO cannot get to grips with good hard physical hurling " Southern Style" as a lot of our clubs look for the easy free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 01, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
How many Antrim referees have officiated at All Ireland level ( semi-final or final) football or hurling. I seem to remember one,
John Gough of St. Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
I think Tommy McIntyre refereed an AI minor final in his time.

Don't start me on Duffy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
El Plato happy to see the Referee did his job, not often they get credit but do you not think you are over cooking his performance, knowing the man he wouldn't thank you for this, Elliot, Hassan and Duffy all work hard at there game, and nothing beats there national experience when it is needed, Herbie shouldn't be to far behind when he gets up to speed in the year ahead also. I think in Hurling we are lucky that we have 4 good referee's and when you look at other counties we should try to appreciate what we do have a lot of the time forgetting parish and club rivalry. Football in the county is another matter, we are poor at present IMO. We still IMO cannot get to grips with good hard physical hurling " Southern Style" as a lot of our clubs look for the easy free.
So there was me thinking you were really Duffy refereeing the game last night at the Bear Pit.  You misled me with your earlier posting  I have to say.  So if your not Duffy, I would have a stab at suggesting you are either Ewwiott or that cnut Cnut(nn)ing from Dunloy.  Not praising Duffy at all nor, seeking praise. You referees are already full of self praise and you know what they say about that!  As I said, as a complete neutral, I was just giving my version of how things panned out at the game.  But other posters appear not to like that, but what the Fcuk, see if I care.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
I think Tommy McIntyre refereed an AI minor final in his time.

Don't start me on Duffy.
U must be a Paddies man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
I think Tommy McIntyre refereed an AI minor final in his time.

Don't start me on Duffy.
U must be a Paddies man?

Yes i am, how'd you guess?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 01, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
How many Antrim referees have officiated at All Ireland level ( semi-final or final) football or hurling. I seem to remember one,
John Gough of St. Johns.
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
I think Tommy McIntyre refereed an AI minor final in his time.

Don't start me on Duffy.

Ah for Christ sake lads, you have no idea starting this shit about AI, all 3 lads at present carry very high scores from what I know but are not in any way being given a chance to breakthrough to Div1, its who you know, and what province has the strongest relationships and as far as Ulster is concerned nobody gives a flying Fck about Hurling, we see that time and time again in the Championship and UHL! They effectively are being discriminated against and this is well enough known among the referee's, asked any of them the next game your at so to come on a Bullshit about J Gough, and Tommy Mc Intyre, that's when Ulster had a say at croke, those days are long gone, and our present representatives only want to look out for what they can get from croker and don't give a monkeys about Referee's why should they eh! JC you obviously have personal issues, so at least be realistic and leave your petty personal issues to the local, FFS give them all a break for a change, and give it a go yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 05:12:41 PM
A good referee is when the players come off the pitch and don't mention the referee. Thats a simple assessment of his ability.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 01, 2012, 05:48:10 PM
Maninblackand green.....you're very bloody touchy, I asked a question without a hint of bullshit.Reading some you're posts I'd say you're suffering from a heavy chip on the shoulder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 01, 2012, 05:49:01 PM
Oisinog if a club is missing 6 players due to county committments and the opposition is aware of this then they would be better off not agreeing to the switch to give them a better chance. This is where the problem lies, it shouldn't get to the stage where the clubs have to deal with it. The clubs agreed to the dates unaware of any weekends away. If they had prior knowledge I'm sure they wouldn't have agreed. Duh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2012, 06:14:21 PM
Mibag u say players look for easy frees? It's the refs that give them for Christ sake! We still cannot distinguish tough from dangerous - players and refs alike.
My general (very general) rule of thumb is be lenient when tackling with body - harsh when with stick.

I think the fixtures row is plain - clubs & county are issued fixture list - to parachute a training weekend in is to pull the rug from under them. Disgraceful to push ahead with this.

Lastly - since I am a nosey type can someone let me in on the county management rumours with dick o Kane and the phantom replacement / incident? If it's too much like gossip for the board send me a Private message.

And before I go - under21 is run off in successive weeks I assume?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 01, 2012, 06:21:39 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
Two hands Why wont the county agree to it?

If you want to do something about it you make a suggestion to your club and they can bring it up a congress.

In August we have the championship so the same problem would come up again
I don't know why they won't change it.

Obviously you mean the convention? Oisin..again I'm trying to explain that the fixtures were agreed by the clubs, the county board & Jerry Wallace at the start of the season. Now a training weekend has been organised. This is not the clubs fault..why should they suffer

Championship doesn't start to very late August...I did say late July/early August
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
On another note there's a new t-shirt available for fans of Mr Watson, of which I know there are a lot of in this thread      ;D:

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
El Plato happy to see the Referee did his job, not often they get credit but do you not think you are over cooking his performance, knowing the man he wouldn't thank you for this, Elliot, Hassan and Duffy all work hard at there game, and nothing beats there national experience when it is needed, Herbie shouldn't be to far behind when he gets up to speed in the year ahead also. I think in Hurling we are lucky that we have 4 good referee's and when you look at other counties we should try to appreciate what we do have a lot of the time forgetting parish and club rivalry. Football in the county is another matter, we are poor at present IMO. We still IMO cannot get to grips with good hard physical hurling " Southern Style" as a lot of our clubs look for the easy free.
So there was me thinking you were really Duffy refereeing the game last night at the Bear Pit.  You misled me with your earlier posting  I have to say.  So if your not Duffy, I would have a stab at suggesting you are either Ewwiott or that cnut Cnut(nn)ing from Dunloy.  Not praising Duffy at all nor, seeking praise. You referees are already full of self praise and you know what they say about that!  As I said, as a complete neutral, I was just giving my version of how things panned out at the game.  But other posters appear not to like that, but what the Fcuk, see if I care.  ;)

MIBAG Are seriously conversing with this poster who is insulting the people that you came on here to represent?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 01, 2012, 06:48:21 PM
Oisinog if a club is missing 6 players due to county committments and the opposition is aware of this then they would be better off not agreeing to the switch to give them a better chance. This is where the problem lies, it shouldn't get to the stage where the clubs have to deal with it. The clubs agreed to the dates unaware of any weekends away. If they had prior knowledge I'm sure they wouldn't have agreed. Duh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2012, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
(http://yfrog.com/obpkojpj:tw1)

hardstation is it right that there openin a chinese restuarant there?

http://www.odonovanrossagac.com/

No. It's going to be an old people's home. Not much of a change tbh....

did you check the link hard station?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it

Stiff upper lip, eh old chap?

Since you know the procedures so well, have you contacted Patrick Sarsfield's and asked for an alternative date? No need to complain, just explain we're missing two key players and have no keeper as a result. I'm sure they'll be sympathetic...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 07:33:04 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it

Stiff upper lip, eh old chap?

Since you know the procedures so well, have you contacted Patrick Sarsfield's and asked for an alternative date? No need to complain, just explain we're missing two key players and have no keeper as a result. I'm sure they'll be sympathetic...

Sarsfields also missing 2 players that are on the squad and no doubt the lad that got a red card last night ;)

Here's a thought that my mate said, move the games till friday night, that way clubs get their players and no need for a late night Sunday (a May Day Sunday ;)) match. Think we will try that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it

Stiff upper lip, eh old chap?

Since you know the procedures so well, have you contacted Patrick Sarsfield's and asked for an alternative date? No need to complain, just explain we're missing two key players and have no keeper as a result. I'm sure they'll be sympathetic...

Well for starters your twisting my words as I have said here we just need to get on with it.

All the complaining is not doing anyone any good

I am not saying anymore on the matter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 01, 2012, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 07:33:04 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: oisinog on May 01, 2012, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 01, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
OisinOg, don't know what team you were watching the last few games but we can't afford to lose 2 players for a county friendly. Wise up.

Where did I say we could afford it.

In fact I said we have no one to replace Shannon.

We just need to get on with it and not complain.
I am sick of people complaining about fixtures and not doing anything about it

Stiff upper lip, eh old chap?

Since you know the procedures so well, have you contacted Patrick Sarsfield's and asked for an alternative date? No need to complain, just explain we're missing two key players and have no keeper as a result. I'm sure they'll be sympathetic...

Sarsfields also missing 2 players that are on the squad and no doubt the lad that got a red card last night ;)

Here's a thought that my mate said, move the games till friday night, that way clubs get their players and no need for a late night Sunday (a May Day Sunday ;)) match. Think we will try that

Actually a reasonable suggestion MR2

Tommy McIntyre's biggest game was a national hurling league final.

After the game an under pressure loud mouth ger loughanne slated him for little reason, and this put northern refereeing back a good few years.  All the lads listed are well off Tommy.

SIE -- I would worry that Watson will survive the next couple of years.  A real talent, however mentally maybe not as strong as he could be.  The way he is adored by some quarters in your club will not help him.

Did i hear he has signed for Dunloy ??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
MR2 does the all county minor league not start this Friday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Interesting on May 01, 2012, 09:45:33 PM
Saffron 89- Dunloy couldn't afford, wouldn't pay, the wages.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: saffron89

SIE -- I would worry that Watson will survive the next couple of years.  A real talent, however mentally maybe not as strong as he could be.  The way he is adored by some quarters in your club will not help him.
He'll be rightly. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2012, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 01, 2012, 02:04:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2012, 01:17:44 PM
A'noon, at the Galls / St Brendans games last night. A real decent physical encounter between both. Lack of numbers in the St Galls squad might have been the downfall (not sure if they had many more to choose from) but they give it everything. Didnt have it up front and only 2 subs. St Brendans worked hard for their goals but some of their points would grace any county ground, good stick work and seemed up for it. Versus the Johnnies should be a good game in the next round.

Its St Kevins JC, different make up of clubs than St Brendans

I don't think our U21 match is going ahead on Monday. Players were told that if we were to get past St Pauls last night then the game v Dunloy wouldn't be on Monday due to Dunloys Ice Dancing fundraiser being on Sunday. Not sure when it will be played yet

Saturday night 5.00 pm dont know the venue, i say because we requested the change it will be in the dall

It was always due to be in Cushendall regardless of change of date or not but good to see some games are allowed to be changed  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 01, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
I wouldn't have expected a change of venue just because of a change of date.  Fair play to Cushendall for agreeing to change.  Will be hoping for a good performance from our boys on Saturday, Cushendall massive favourites though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
El Plato happy to see the Referee did his job, not often they get credit but do you not think you are over cooking his performance, knowing the man he wouldn't thank you for this, Elliot, Hassan and Duffy all work hard at there game, and nothing beats there national experience when it is needed, Herbie shouldn't be to far behind when he gets up to speed in the year ahead also. I think in Hurling we are lucky that we have 4 good referee's and when you look at other counties we should try to appreciate what we do have a lot of the time forgetting parish and club rivalry. Football in the county is another matter, we are poor at present IMO. We still IMO cannot get to grips with good hard physical hurling " Southern Style" as a lot of our clubs look for the easy free.
So there was me thinking you were really Duffy refereeing the game last night at the Bear Pit.  You misled me with your earlier posting  I have to say.  So if your not Duffy, I would have a stab at suggesting you are either Ewwiott or that cnut Cnut(nn)ing from Dunloy.  Not praising Duffy at all nor, seeking praise. You referees are already full of self praise and you know what they say about that!  As I said, as a complete neutral, I was just giving my version of how things panned out at the game.  But other posters appear not to like that, but what the Fcuk, see if I care.  ;)

MIBAG Are seriously conversing with this poster who is insulting the people that you came on here to represent?
I've never assaulted a referee in my life, but early days yet I suppose, still in my prime.  Anyone know where that fuk-hir Cnut(nn)ing lives.  I would certainly give him 'what for'  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
You truly are full of shit, you couldnt give your woman 'whats for' ya nob :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 11:55:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2012, 11:12:38 PM
You truly are full of shit, you couldnt give your woman 'whats for' ya nob :o
Ho Ho Ho, just imagine, this from a miltown man with no balls, (well that has been the story on the street) for decades  ;) :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 02, 2012, 08:25:51 AM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 01, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
El Plato happy to see the Referee did his job, not often they get credit but do you not think you are over cooking his performance, knowing the man he wouldn't thank you for this, Elliot, Hassan and Duffy all work hard at there game, and nothing beats there national experience when it is needed, Herbie shouldn't be to far behind when he gets up to speed in the year ahead also. I think in Hurling we are lucky that we have 4 good referee's and when you look at other counties we should try to appreciate what we do have a lot of the time forgetting parish and club rivalry. Football in the county is another matter, we are poor at present IMO. We still IMO cannot get to grips with good hard physical hurling " Southern Style" as a lot of our clubs look for the easy free.
So there was me thinking you were really Duffy refereeing the game last night at the Bear Pit.  You misled me with your earlier posting  I have to say.  So if your not Duffy, I would have a stab at suggesting you are either Ewwiott or that cnut Cnut(nn)ing from Dunloy.  Not praising Duffy at all nor, seeking praise. You referees are already full of self praise and you know what they say about that!  As I said, as a complete neutral, I was just giving my version of how things panned out at the game.  But other posters appear not to like that, but what the Fcuk, see if I care.  ;)

MIBAG Are seriously conversing with this poster who is insulting the people that you came on here to represent?
I've never assaulted a referee in my life, but early days yet I suppose, still in my prime.  Anyone know where that fuk-hir Cnut(nn)ing lives.  I would certainly give him 'what for'  ;D

Reading skills out the window along with the rest of the supposed intellect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 02, 2012, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 01, 2012, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 01, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
How many Antrim referees have officiated at All Ireland level ( semi-final or final) football or hurling. I seem to remember one,
John Gough of St. Johns.
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
I think Tommy McIntyre refereed an AI minor final in his time.

Don't start me on Duffy.

JC you obviously have personal issues, so at least be realistic and leave your petty personal issues to the local, FFS give them all a break for a change, and give it a go yourself.

Well you're the one on here bigging him up, I have another perspective on the man which I am entitled to and will voice it when I choose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
Never seen as much bullshit on this site in my life, FFS catch a grip, your all taking the bait from EP!  Mibag if your on defending your referee's then stick to the points at hand! All your doing is creating a platform for everyone then to have a dig, get personal and bullshit about what this referee did years ago and he's still a C***T no matter what! This is a hurling Thread, you want to start your Referee's thread then go ahead and then they can all go to that topic and leave this to issues around club and county to this thread, you obviously are close enough to referee's, IMO your doing none of them any favours at all except allowing people to have a pop and get really personal. To the senior members of the board FFS get some of the idiots barrred and lets get back to normal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 09:57:52 AM
Quote from: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
Never seen as much bullshit on this site in my life, FFS catch a grip, your all taking the bait from EP!  Mibag if your on defending your referee's then stick to the points at hand! All your doing is creating a platform for everyone then to have a dig, get personal and bullshit about what this referee did years ago and he's still a C***T no matter what! This is a hurling Thread, you want to start your Referee's thread then go ahead and then they can all go to that topic and leave this to issues around club and county to this thread, you obviously are close enough to referee's, IMO your doing none of them any favours at all except allowing people to have a pop and get really personal. To the senior members of the board FFS get some of the idiots barrred and lets get back to normal.

+1

Been getting him barred each time, keeps coming back, usually cracks and calls everyone c***ts!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
This is nuts, love a bit of crac but its getting beyond a joke now, FFS do something MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 02, 2012, 10:03:18 AM
+1

Its genuinely IMO supposed to be a place where GAA/ Hurling people can come to discuss events, air their opinions without getting into personally insulting an official, player, manager or anyone who is giving up their spare time to promote or play the game that we all enjoy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 10:05:39 AM
Agree totally, but this idiot is dragging it down, should take a leaf out of the county website and just gas the F*** out this EP!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 02, 2012, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
Never seen as much bullshit on this site in my life, FFS catch a grip, your all taking the bait from EP!  Mibag if your on defending your referee's then stick to the points at hand! All your doing is creating a platform for everyone then to have a dig, get personal and bullshit about what this referee did years ago and he's still a C***T no matter what! This is a hurling Thread, you want to start your Referee's thread then go ahead and then they can all go to that topic and leave this to issues around club and county to this thread, you obviously are close enough to referee's, IMO your doing none of them any favours at all except allowing people to have a pop and get really personal. To the senior members of the board FFS get some of the idiots barrred and lets get back to normal.

+2 this board has got really bad recently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 11:59:01 AM
Aye but !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 02, 2012, 12:00:14 PM
Its got to the situation when a debate is going on people who disagree with you start to insult you.

Its hogan stand all over again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2012, 12:19:10 PM
There are a select few ruining the place. It's noticeable that some good posters have now disappeared and so have any attempts at debate from half the people here.

This "referee" is doing nothing but bringing up things leading to insults on referees too.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 02, 2012, 12:26:45 PM
Lets try and get back to the Hurling debate

Who should play full back in mullingar?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 02, 2012, 12:28:23 PM
Full back?  Good question!

Would the regular county 6 be a shout?

Who is fit? McAULEY could play there!
Micko has played at 6 before!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
I think Kieran McGourty would do a good job at full back.

Failing that Graffin i versatile enough to play anywhere in defense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 02, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Dont KMcG would be the best option, Graffin could be the answer quick, strong and good on the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 02, 2012, 12:35:07 PM
True Graffin is versitile - McGourty could do a great job if ball in low, but he wont be catching too many in there.
It will be a case of bat down, and clear!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2012, 12:38:08 PM
Not spoiled for choice but I would play Neil McAuley at FB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 12:41:14 PM
Watched Graffin on Sunday play FB against Ballycran, did a decent job and won plenty of ball. Keiran and Aaron are small enough for FB so I'd be worried if they (Westmeath) had a big versatile FF.

Herron could be an option in FB, it wouldn't upset the rest of the team too much, McAuley better staying in the HB line for me Minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 02, 2012, 12:44:59 PM
Graffin is a fantastic player but he may be a bit short for fullback if there were a few high balls dropped on him

Herron wouldnt be a bad call. Though I have never seen him play there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
Sean Burke from your own club would have been a good addition to cover full back Milltown.

Hindsight  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
Sean Burke from your own club would have been a good addition to cover full back Milltown.

Hindsight  ;D

Sean has played well there for the club lately and last year, but I'd be happy he concentrates on club first ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 02, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Neil Mc Manus actually played full back right up until he came out of minor, certainly an option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on May 02, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
Folks have any of lads stood beside Graffin recently? Let me tell you hes not small. As mr2 said he cleaned out the Ballycran fb on Saturday and set up a goal. After 10Min's he went onto Paddy Richmond against Dunloy, same result, yes Paddy's powers are waining, but he'd be my choice, hes a better fb than Hippy in my opinion. I did hear on the grapevine that they have been using Carson in training , now dint know how that would work out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 02, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Neil Mc Manus actually played full back right up until he came out of minor, certainly an option.

But I'd rather not disrupt the team too much, Micko would be able to slot in there for one match and Hippy to return in the next game hopefully. Neil needed out the field more. Scored nearly every time he had the ball on Sunday, very worrying for us (Naomh Gall) come championship. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: JamesH on May 02, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
Folks have any of lads stood beside Graffin recently? Let me tell you hes not small. As mr2 said he cleaned out the Ballycran fb on Saturday and set up a goal. After 10Min's he went onto Paddy Richmond against Dunloy, same result, yes Paddy's powers are waining, but he'd be my choice, hes a better fb than Hippy in my opinion. I did hear on the grapevine that they have been using Carson in training , now dint know how that would work out.

He's not small James, but slightly built less than most FB's and I'm not sure who's playing FF for Westmeath. Upset the applecart and all that.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 02, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
IMO Arron is man for job,   Serious below a high ball. Great man marker also, so I think no matter what size of a full forward appears for Westmeath, graffin will do a job on him!!  I'd even go as far to say he should stay in there!!  Big hippy is good hurler. I'd try him in other square if we progress, has been there before and with Shane and maybe Watson along side,  gives different option with the high ball!!   Only a thought!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 02, 2012, 02:27:45 PM
It would be a huge ask to play someone in Full Back if they have never played there ie Micko(poor under a high ball). Graffin has at least played there a good few times and done well. I'd leave McAuley & McManus out the pitch.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 02:41:47 PM
If I was lining out the team for Antrim it would be.
                            DD
McGourty       Micko        Graffin

McAuley  Neil McManus  Getten
               Stewart/McCrory

McCloskey   Watson    B. McFaul
McConnell   McNaughton   Scullion

The HF and FF lines could swap or move about as they have nearly all played in various positions for club and county before. Would have liked to have seen Casey from Loughgiel on that panel to see how he'd fair


Yes Two Hands ffs I'm with you on that one but would prefer us to have more balance to the team, Moving Micko into FB would do that as he hasn't had much fun in the forwards of late, playing in defence for his club last few years also. Again just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
Lads all this chat who plays where, under different scenarios etc etc, we should account for westmeath fairly easily and if not then it will be a poor performance and Wallace should pack the bags, their forward line is fairly handy with Clarke, Murtagh and Greville and a great keeper in Mc Govern but apart from that if we don't win comfortably with a high points tally then we are in big diffs for the next round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 02:51:17 PM
Already stated, a ten point win should be the winning margin.

Galway next would be the the one to gauge our ability
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on May 02, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
I think the Loughgiel and Cushendall will be easy wins for them in the U21 Champ.But St Kevins vs St Johns and Ballycastle vs Rossa should be two super games of hurling.I would say two of the games of the year.Also noticed that the U21 County panel has been announced.Surely the selectors should have watched the U21 Champ and then named a panel from there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 02, 2012, 03:40:02 PM
Am sure any players who arent involved but stand out will be asked onto the training panel anyway, seems logical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 02, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
I think the Loughgiel and Cushendall will be easy wins for them in the U21 Champ.But St Kevins vs St Johns and Ballycastle vs Rossa should be two super games of hurling.I would say two of the games of the year.Also noticed that the U21 County panel has been announced.Surely the selectors should have watched the U21 Champ and then named a panel from there?

Fair point Hurler24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on May 02, 2012, 03:46:01 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 02, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
I think the Loughgiel and Cushendall will be easy wins for them in the U21 Champ.But St Kevins vs St Johns and Ballycastle vs Rossa should be two super games of hurling.I would say two of the games of the year.Also noticed that the U21 County panel has been announced.Surely the selectors should have watched the U21 Champ and then named a panel from there?

I am open for correction here

They are trying to get away from last years farce. From what I understand they have trained for a while and had quite a few trials to pick the U21 squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
You're right Oisinog, they have had a few trail games, is Tosh looking after them? Dandered down to Jordanstown pitches one sat morning and watched them for a bit. We've a young lad who plays corner back for us, he's been brilliant for us this year and is under 21. Was injured at the start of the year so probably missed out on selection, which is unfortunate on him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 04:13:28 PM
You're right Oisinog, they have had a few trail games, is Tosh looking after them? Dandered down to Jordanstown pitches one sat morning and watched them for a bit. We've a young lad who plays corner back for us, he's been brilliant for us this year and is under 21. Was injured at the start of the year so probably missed out on selection, which is unfortunate on him.

Tosh and a fella Simpson from St Galls, Danny I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 02:41:47 PM
If I was lining out the team for Antrim it would be.
                            DD
McGourty       Micko        Graffin

McAuley  Neil McManus  Getten
               Stewart/McCrory

McCloskey   Watson    B. McFaul
McConnell   McNaughton  Scullion

The HF and FF lines could swap or move about as they have nearly all played in various positions for club and county before. Would have liked to have seen Casey from Loughgiel on that panel to see how he'd fair


Yes Two Hands ffs I'm with you on that one but would prefer us to have more balance to the team, Moving Micko into FB would do that as he hasn't had much fun in the forwards of late, playing in defence for his club last few years also. Again just a thought
Joey is no longer available MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 02, 2012, 07:27:01 PM
Getting personal lads, getting personal.  Can you not take a little bit of the jesting? Are you all beyond reproach also? Well not in my opinion.  :D

This reminds me why I don't buy the Andytown news, full of arm chair generals and the like and those starting to believe their own press. The ironic thing is this though , some of you honestly believe you are making a difference for the betterment and development of Antrim hurling.

"whats good for the goose" is also good for "The Duck"  ;)

Burke, McGourty or Graffin at full back , are you for real? Not one of them are competent/strong or competitive under a high dropping ball.  We really need somebody of the calibre of young Donnelly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 02, 2012, 08:05:33 PM
Obviously you haven't watched them boys much at club level then EP or are you simply looking a response.

I should have introduced myself on my first post. Long term browser of the site and have only recently decided to join and give my tupence worth on all things Antrim. Prefer the hurling but have been known to kick ball also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: El Plato on May 02, 2012, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on May 02, 2012, 10:05:39 AM
Agree totally, but this idiot is dragging it down, should take a leaf out of the county website and just gas the F*** out this EP!
And who the fcuk are you ballbag?

Que for a fcukin song:

Are you lonesome tonight
Is your head full of sh1te
Are your testicles just drifting apart

Is your girl on the pill
Fcuks around with free will
No fcukin wonder your lonesome tonight!  :D


This gaaboard melarky is crap.  Im away back to Hoganstand, a better class of fuk-hir there, adios  ;D


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
who are you referring to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
who are you referring to?

Neil McGarry, did he not play FB this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
who are you referring to?

Neil McGarry, did he not play FB this year?
Yep, I'd have thought he would have needed to have been selected for the county first before he'd be able to play for them. Plus he's injured atm, ankle ligaments.  Anyway, he's getting married soon, he's more important things to worry about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
who are you referring to?

Neil McGarry, did he not play FB this year?
Yep, I'd have thought he would have needed to have been selected for the county first before he'd be able to play for them. Plus he's injured atm, ankle ligaments.  Anyway, he's getting married soon, he's more important things to worry about.

That's a strange one, he'd played for the county before and had a great year, strange that ankle problem seemed ok when running about corrigan. But if injured nowt can be done. As for getting married!!! WTF, even more reason to get out of the house lol ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 02, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 02, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
Pity the Shamrocks back line is so poor, we could have used some of them !!

Would the Loughgiel FB not make himself available? He looked ok when knocking the ball about the Corrigan pitch at half time, or could he not be arsed this year?
who are you referring to?

Neil McGarry, did he not play FB this year?
Yep, I'd have thought he would have needed to have been selected for the county first before he'd be able to play for them. Plus he's injured atm, ankle ligaments.  Anyway, he's getting married soon, he's more important things to worry about.

That's a strange one, he'd played for the county before and had a great year, strange that ankle problem seemed ok when running about corrigan. But if injured nowt can be done. As for getting married!!! WTF, even more reason to get out of the house lol ;)
He got hurt v Ballycran in the semi final of the Ulster League.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: El Plato on May 02, 2012, 07:27:01 PM
Getting personal lads, getting personal.  Can you not take a little bit of the jesting? Are you all beyond reproach also? Well not in my opinion.  :D

This reminds me why I don't buy the Andytown news, full of arm chair generals and the like and those starting to believe their own press. The ironic thing is this though , some of you honestly believe you are making a difference for the betterment and development of Antrim hurling.

"whats good for the goose" is also good for "The Duck"  ;)

Burke, McGourty or Graffin at full back , are you for real? Not one of them are competent/strong or competitive under a high dropping ball.  We really need somebody of the calibre of young Donnelly.

You're some boy for the old debate. Your man's injured so I don't agree with any of your suggestions on who replaces him - we'll just play someone like him.

McGarry would have been perfect so pity. McAuley did full back at minor's if I mind rightly but he does a great job at wing half back to maybe robbing the half back line if we did that. Robbing corner back with Graffin mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 03, 2012, 07:40:23 AM
Graffin isn't competent or strong under a high ball? Get a grip, he is as good as anyone in Ulster under the dropping ball. Next he'll be saying Mc Manus doesn't score enough or DD Quinn isn't a good shot stopper. What a clampet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 03, 2012, 09:00:29 AM
just noticed on the county website that the under 21 squad has a training session in Glenariff on Saturday at 5-30. Cushendall play Dunloy at 5 on Saturday is that why the Antrim squad has only 1 Dall and 2 Dunloy players in it?  As well this is more shyte from the county with taking the seniors away first and then makin the uder 21s train the evening before club league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 03, 2012, 10:16:16 AM
Why is Martin Scullion not with the county this year? One of Loughgiel's stand-outs all year and could certainly put in a fine shift at FB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 03, 2012, 10:54:23 AM
Our players at U21 County training wasn't regular but maybe they just didn't fancy them. Would have thought they will watch the games at some stage. Would think we would have a few more capable. As said before our game was changed to suit Dunloy so it wasn't the county who set up the clash to be fair.

Our games against St Johns are now at 2pm & 3.30pm on Sunday.

Graffin has been very good at Full Back over the last couple of weeks. Quality hurler that has proved he can play anywhere across the back 6. From what is there, he's the best option

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 03, 2012, 10:16:16 AM
Why is Martin Scullion not with the county this year? One of Loughgiel's stand-outs all year and could certainly put in a fine shift at FB
It is a pity but he made himself unavailable this year. He's been brilliant for us over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 12:39:40 PM
Two years on the road is difficult enough, I've no problems with any lad in taking a break or opting out of County teams. Ya need to love hurling and when you are going non stop it can be a bad thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Predictions

McQuillan GAC Ballycastle v Ballycran            Castle
Dunloy v St.Patricks, Portaferry                     Dunloy
Ballygalget v Loughgiel Shamrocks                 Galget
Ruairí Óg v St John's GAC                              Ruairi Og

County Antrim Post Division 2HL
Naomh Gall v Tir Na nOg Randalstown                    Galls       
O`Donovan Rossa GAC v Gort na Móna                  Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v Cathaoir an Rí                               Lamhs 
Glenariff Ossians v Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields     Glenariff (by a big margin)

I see there is no referee assigned for St Galls v Tir Na Og - Does this mean the game is possibly rescheduled?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Predictions

McQuillan GAC Ballycastle v Ballycran            Castle
Dunloy v St.Patricks, Portaferry                     Dunloy
Ballygalget v Loughgiel Shamrocks                 Galget
Ruairí Óg v St John's GAC                              Ruairi Og

County Antrim Post Division 2HL
Naomh Gall v Tir Na nOg Randalstown                    Galls       
O`Donovan Rossa GAC v Gort na Móna                  Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v Cathaoir an Rí                               Lamhs 
Glenariff Ossians v Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields     Glenariff (by a big margin)

I see there is no referee assigned for St Galls v Tir Na Og - Does this mean the game is possibly rescheduled?

Still Sunday night i believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 03, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Predictions

McQuillan GAC Ballycastle v Ballycran            Castle
Dunloy v St.Patricks, Portaferry                     Dunloy
Ballygalget v Loughgiel Shamrocks                 Galget
Ruairí Óg v St John's GAC                              Ruairi Og

County Antrim Post Division 2HL
Naomh Gall v Tir Na nOg Randalstown                    Galls       
O`Donovan Rossa GAC v Gort na Móna                  Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v Cathaoir an Rí                               Lamhs 
Glenariff Ossians v Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields     Glenariff (by a big margin)

I see there is no referee assigned for St Galls v Tir Na Og - Does this mean the game is possibly rescheduled?

I agree with it all except;
Loughiel will beat Ballygalget
Rossa on stag weekend and given recent events Gort could turn them over at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 03, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Predictions

McQuillan GAC Ballycastle v Ballycran            Castle
Dunloy v St.Patricks, Portaferry                     Dunloy
Ballygalget v Loughgiel Shamrocks                 Galget
Ruairí Óg v St John's GAC                              Ruairi Og

County Antrim Post Division 2HL
Naomh Gall v Tir Na nOg Randalstown                    Galls       
O`Donovan Rossa GAC v Gort na Móna                  Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v Cathaoir an Rí                               Lamhs 
Glenariff Ossians v Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields     Glenariff (by a big margin)

I see there is no referee assigned for St Galls v Tir Na Og - Does this mean the game is possibly rescheduled?

I agree with it all except;
Loughiel will beat Ballygalget
Rossa on stag weekend and given recent events Gort could turn them over at home.

Rossa stag lasting till the Bank holiday Monday!!! Gorts won last match so maybe things looking up for them. Sarsfields might shock Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 02:24:07 PM
I was just trying to ruffle a few feathers with that prediction. In truth, Id fully expect Shams to beat  Galget  ;)

I think Gort are suffering a few problems of their own and would imagine Rossa should still have enough for them.

I think this is the weekend Sarsfields wheels will come off. Glenariffe, Galls and Lamhs in their next 4 fixtures will be a tough task. In fairness though I'd imagine establishing themselves back in div 2 would be their realistic target - run before you can walk and all that!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 03, 2012, 07:41:10 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 03, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Predictions

McQuillan GAC Ballycastle v Ballycran            Castle
Dunloy v St.Patricks, Portaferry                     Dunloy
Ballygalget v Loughgiel Shamrocks                 Galget
Ruairí Óg v St John's GAC                              Ruairi Og

County Antrim Post Division 2HL
Naomh Gall v Tir Na nOg Randalstown                    Galls       
O`Donovan Rossa GAC v Gort na Móna                  Rossa
Lamh Dhearg v Cathaoir an Rí                               Lamhs 
Glenariff Ossians v Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields     Glenariff (by a big margin)

The Shams will beat Ballygalget easy and Id' be worried about Ballycran. Thay beat the Shams and ran the Dall in the Tain league and the Town are missin there best players injured or with the county as well as there under 21s training the night before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.

Seems the All Ireland champs can do what they please!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.

Seems the All Ireland champs can do what they please!!
A bit presumptuous MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 04, 2012, 06:55:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.

Seems the All Ireland champs can do what they please!!
A bit presumptuous MR2.
Neil McGarrys wedding on saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 09:04:52 AM
Down play Saturday also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 04, 2012, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 09:04:52 AM
Down play Saturday also

That's nothing to do with it colonel.

Loughgeil refusing to travel allegedly.

Two unexpected points  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2012, 09:33:19 AM
Sure they will hardly need them come the end of the season and its still party time down there, long may it last  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 04, 2012, 09:39:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 04, 2012, 09:33:19 AM
Sure they will hardly need them come the end of the season and its still party time down there, long may it last  ;)

Aye, but we'll certainly need them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2012, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 09:04:52 AM
Down play Saturday also

That's nothing to do with it colonel.

Loughgeil refusing to travel allegedly.

Two unexpected points  ;)

So you've already been awarded the points. This will have more end of season arguments I am sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2012, 10:22:57 AM
I think its pretty simple Colonel, LG arent going to travel the county wont refix the game, 300 quid fine to LG and 2 point to Ballygalget. In fairness they have done nothing wrong in this so not much argument to be had there?

Just was thinking last night is it time to introduce a system of bonus points ala Rugby the bonus losing point or winning point?
Maybe fire a bit more of an interest in some teams in matches they know they are going to struggle in, just a thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.

SIEW seems to think it will be played later ;)

Loughgiel will be deducted a point, not that will matter come the end of the season

Seems the County Hurlers will not be playing on the Sunday after all, they will be back for the games on Sunday. Ours game is at six, for all you followers of Naomh Gall :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2012, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2012, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 09:04:52 AM
Down play Saturday also

That's nothing to do with it colonel.

Loughgeil refusing to travel allegedly.

Two unexpected points  ;)

Any reason for this?

Do you think if they had have known Down were playing then they would have sent down the all conquering reserves and beat Ballygalget anyways. Seems a no brainer to me. Is the wedding on this Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2012, 01:17:29 PM
There have been no points lost or fines to be paid . The match has been rearranged for 30th May. Settle the heads lads.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on May 04, 2012, 01:24:15 PM
Loughgiel are not refusing to travel, never have done and never will do.  A request was made to the county board and Ballygalget and this was accepted. Get over yourselves. Common sense one would have thought. Re arranged for 30th May. Why is everyone so interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2012, 01:37:36 PM
Agh sure Tom its loughgiel.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 04, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on May 04, 2012, 01:24:15 PM
Loughgiel are not refusing to travel, never have done and never will do.  A request was made to the county board and Ballygalget and this was accepted. Get over yourselves. Common sense one would have thought. Re arranged for 30th May. Why is everyone so interested?


maybe because this thread discusses all things involved with Antrim Hurling..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Can see the Balotelli T Shirt now SIE 'Why always me'  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2012, 02:15:05 PM
 I think mr2 would be a better candidate to wear it this week.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 04, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
Anything involving the All-Ireland champions is bound to be of interest,and the subject of intense debate. And rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2012, 06:13:02 PM
I hear portaferry/Dunloy is off as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 04, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Dunloy v Portaferry is off, death in the Portaferry club, condolences to the families involved and the wider Portaferry club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 04, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Dunloy v Portaferry is off, death in the Portaferry club, condolences to the families involved and the wider Portaferry club.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on May 04, 2012, 01:24:15 PM
Loughgiel are not refusing to travel, never have done and never will do.  A request was made to the county board and Ballygalget and this was accepted. Get over yourselves. Common sense one would have thought. Re arranged for 30th May. Why is everyone so interested?

Just interested in why, so when we are looking a game off I'll know what excuse to use :o. No big deal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on May 05, 2012, 01:34:21 AM
'Whys it always us'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 05, 2012, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2012, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 03, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
The Ballygalget/Loughgiel match has been postponed.

SIEW seems to think it will be played later ;)

Loughgiel will be deducted a point, not that will matter come the end of the season

Seems the County Hurlers will not be playing on the Sunday after all, they will be back for the games on Sunday. Ours game is at six, for all you followers of Naomh Gall :o

if thats right and if Down play today too then the Town v Ballycran game is hrder to call. Right I'm a Town man so  its the Town to win. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 05, 2012, 09:33:53 PM
Win for our u21s this evening. 4-16 to 0-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 05, 2012, 09:36:17 PM
Ballyhale 2.14 Antrim 1.20.   Ballyhale were winning 2.13 to 0.16 with 10mins to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2012, 11:12:57 PM
Decent result, though based on that result wouldn't get past loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 06, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
MR2,   you have other things to concentrate on now instead of mixing!!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2012, 08:47:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 06, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
MR2,   you have other things to concentrate on now instead of mixing!!! ;)

Yeah I know, bitta craic and these digs don't hurt :o

Glenariffe may get beat today, if they do, thats it for the league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
We beat Sarsfields by 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 06, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
We beat Sarsfields by 5.

And made a meal of it. 2-11 to 1-10. Should have put Sarsfields away after having them on the rack 15 mins into the game but completely stopped.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 06, 2012, 06:35:18 PM
H/t st galls 0-02 tir na nog 0-03
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 06, 2012, 06:40:20 PM
Ballycastle 1-13 Ballycran 1 -8

First look at our boys this year. Ballycran made it hard with close marking and our young boys found it difficult at timres to handle that. Broke the Ballycran defence a couple of times in the first half but missed goal chances. Young boy in corner forward McCaughan is electric. 3 points up at half time. Bit of a breeze and Ballycran came back and drew level with a good goal with 10 minutes to go and Cossie was keepin us in it with frees. Pinky played CHB and him and Neal McAuley stepped it up then winnin good ball and clearing out of defence and lifted the young boys and next thing Jimmy McLister stuck the ball in the net and that was it over.  Ref was E Hassan and he let play go. We were lucky in first half not to give away a penalty but he was fair enough. There was a Ballycran man on the other side who did'nt think so cos I could hear him across the pitch. Good result for us. Maybe not at Loughgeil or Cushendall standrd but give these boys a couple of years and who knows?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 06, 2012, 06:44:23 PM
Sorry. Ref Has 3 a piece at half time!?!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 06, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Full time , st galls 1-7 tir na nog 0-09
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Post by: Arthur_Friend on May 06, 2012, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 06, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Full time , st galls 1-7 tir na nog 0-09

Close run, any word on the Rossa game?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 06, 2012, 08:08:52 PM
Aye, st galls at 6's & 7's, although missing a few . Tir an nog unlucky not to leave with something. They played well enough, however galls nicked  a goal with about 5 left but and had to work a lot harder for their scores than r' town.
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Post by: Minder on May 06, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
Surprised by the tanking Carey gave Lamh Dhearg.
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Post by: Forever Green on May 06, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
Just looking at the results form the past few weeks, Glenarm are in awful shape. Getting mauled by everyone in Division 3. They seemed to be doing quite well for a few years there. Anyway, Divison3 looks very competitive from the first few games, should be interesting throughout the year. I would say these will be the winners at the end of the campaign:

Div 1-Cushendall
Div 2-St Galls
Div 3-Ahoghill
Div 4-St Theresa`s
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Well we just about scrapped past a Tir Na Og team that will be wondering how they didn't win yesterday, they fought for every ball and their half backline was the best line out of both teams.

We struggled up front without Karl, Aidso, Mackers and a couple of other lads. We need more to chip in with the scores if we are to put a challenge in for the league, but plenty of games to go. I rather be top at the end of the year than now, anyhow we aren't in a bad position and don't think we will get relegated :o.

Some scoreline from Carey up in Lamh Dhearg, really surprised with that scoreline, Micko missing that game but would have thought that Lamhs were decent enough to put up a better score. Rossa big win over a helpless Gorts, terrible situation for them to be in. Glenariffe as expected beat Sarsfields but I heard both teams were poor.

Cushendall going flat out, a healthy plus 34 points in the scoring department and 3 points clear of the chasing pack, clearly intent of knocking Loughgiel out of the championship, can't see us surprising them this year and it should be a ding dong battle in that first round  match.

Any one from Armoy, clough mills, Clooney Gaels, and St Pauls could win the Div 3 league, My money is on Clooney Gaels.

St Teresa's probably too strong for this league in fairness
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Post by: JamesH on May 07, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
MR2, Ruairi Og were anything but flat out yesterday, probably as bad a match as i have seen in quite a while. Both teams were missing players, well Cushendall were the Johnstons also missing along with Brian mcFaul.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2012, 06:23:59 PM
Quote from: JamesH on May 07, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
MR2, Ruairi Og were anything but flat out yesterday, probably as bad a match as i have seen in quite a while. Both teams were missing players, well Cushendall were the Johnstons also missing along with Brian mcFaul.

Did yous play without your under 21's? Johnnies must have done the same, still James, the league shows that you're doing well and scoring well also. So positive enough me thinks
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 07, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
At Rossa v ballycastle here lads. The town just got a goal with last puck we're goin into extra time!
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 07, 2012, 08:52:04 PM
St Kevin's beat the johnnies by 3.
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 07, 2012, 09:07:27 PM
Castle win! Great game!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 07, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
Shamrocks 3-16 St. Mary's 1-05
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Post by: Hurler24 on May 07, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Hardstation i dont see how yous can complain....tbh i thght his sending off of young Donnelly was a disgraceful decision.But a superb game of hurling by both teams.As i predicted a game of the year contender there.
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 07, 2012, 10:31:43 PM
Mmmmm. I think lads in a tight game like that it's natural that a refs decisions will be scrutinised perhaps slanted.
It was a fantastic game Altho I would say exciting rather than the actual quality of hurling.
Well done both teams.

I didn't get to any senior league games at the weekend - domestic disturbance let's just say! Galls seem to be winning games that could traditionally trip them up and Glenarriffe sarsfields closer than I would have thought. Troubled times for Gort.
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Post by: JamesH on May 07, 2012, 11:56:22 PM
Mr2 Our u21 game was on Saturday afternoon due to Dunloy having a fundraiser on Sat night so we agreed to move. Any u21s we had available were playing, except Paddy Mc Naughton, who went back to Wales to work on Sunday morning..
Some Result for St Kevins v St Johns tonight, who will take some beating , fair play to them.
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Post by: Joxer_man on May 08, 2012, 01:56:49 AM
whose st kevins?  ???
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 07:37:19 AM
Quote from: Joxer_man on May 08, 2012, 01:56:49 AM
whose st kevins?  ???

Armoy, Clough Mills, and Carey. Decent team
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Post by: manballandall on May 08, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
Have you seen them play MR2?
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Post by: the colonel on May 08, 2012, 09:15:06 AM
St Kevins fully deserved their win last night. Very strong team with James McCouig, James Black and Conor Laverty dominating throughout. Three very good young hurlers.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
Quote from: manballandall on May 08, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
Have you seen them play MR2?

Our under 21 manager said they were very good, he thought our lads would have had a decent chance but underestimated them, big time :o

I wasn't at the match.
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Post by: the colonel on May 08, 2012, 09:40:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
Quote from: manballandall on May 08, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
Have you seen them play MR2?

Our under 21 manager said they were very good, he thought our lads would have had a decent chance but underestimated them, big time :o

I wasn't at the match.

I think St John's done the same to be honest. Play our boys in the Semi with Ballycastle v Loughgiel in the other semi
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Post by: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
Are the semi finals this weekend?

Any fall out from the county boys having to come home from Kilkenny on the Saturday evening? I would imagine JW wasnt a happy man
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Post by: DearyMe on May 08, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
Are the semi finals this weekend?

Any fall out from the county boys having to come home from Kilkenny on the Saturday evening? I would imagine JW wasnt a happy man

Think he understood the situation, and rightly so.
I thought it would have been a good opportunity to bond the team in the wake of Dick stepping down.
Heard rsult from game, but anyone shed any light on performance?

Full back line?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 08, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
Are the semi finals this weekend?

Any fall out from the county boys having to come home from Kilkenny on the Saturday evening? I would imagine JW wasnt a happy man
The semis are on the 21st May.
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Post by: the colonel on May 08, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Conor Carson was full back and very good apparently
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Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 09:02:27 PM
I saw him play there quite a few times at underage and thought he was exceptional. Granted that was underage but I think he's much better suited to defense.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 09:57:56 PM
Well either way we should win by at least 10 points, that is, if we manage to bring a Championship edge to the game, if they go out and think they will win cause it's Westmeath then they will be in a battle for sure. Jerry's First Championship game with Antrim, Hope the attitude is right for the game.

Remember Westmeath couldn't play in the championship because of Antrim, so they will have something to play for
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Post by: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on May 08, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: derrylad89 on May 07, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
i see slaughtneils minors played st john's in Antrim league last week is this a new thing or is their other Derry hurling teams in the Antrim league does it promote hurling in our own county? does this only happen at minor level and if so do they play Antrim championship i dont recall the good dungiven and lavey teams playing Antrim league in the 90's but i may be mistaken? it gota be tuff for dual clubs i would imagine its the same players playing both codes in these parishes?

One of my most prized medals is that for winning the Centenary Year 1984 Antrim Minor Hurling League with Lavey, when we dropped a single point v. Cushendall all season.  The standard was great too, and every game was a final.  There were fisticuffs v. GortnaMona and the CowHallions but otherwise the reception of the main Glens and city clubs for us was fantastic.  Loughgiel in particular went out of their way to make us welcome and when we beat them to win the competition, they couldn't have been fairer.  The home crowd cheered us off the pitch - possibly something to do with the fact that had we lost, we'd have been pipped by their "neighbours" by a point, I believe.  28 years later and I was as happy as any Loughgiel man when they lifted the cup in Croker.

Several of the Antrim clubs had no objection to us playing in the Antrim Minor championship as they saw it as the spreading of the beautiful game further west of the Bann, but guess who were the principal objectors?  Little wonder there was/is no love lost between the Hallions and other clubs.

Just spotted this on another thread thought it was relevant on here.
Hate people spouting BS  when they know nothing about, '84 centenary LEAGUE. Lavey could play in any league they wanted but not in an Antrim championship. I think the poster should be more grateful to the teams in Antrim who are welcoming their Derry cousins into their leagues and Go Games etc for the betterment of Ulster Hurling, havent seen the Derry board or Derry clubs coming up with something to do the same. So a bit more graciousness for those clubs going out of their way to help you would be much appreciated.

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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on May 08, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: derrylad89 on May 07, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
i see slaughtneils minors played st john's in Antrim league last week is this a new thing or is their other Derry hurling teams in the Antrim league does it promote hurling in our own county? does this only happen at minor level and if so do they play Antrim championship i dont recall the good dungiven and lavey teams playing Antrim league in the 90's but i may be mistaken? it gota be tuff for dual clubs i would imagine its the same players playing both codes in these parishes?

One of my most prized medals is that for winning the Centenary Year 1984 Antrim Minor Hurling League with Lavey, when we dropped a single point v. Cushendall all season.  The standard was great too, and every game was a final.  There were fisticuffs v. GortnaMona and the CowHallions but otherwise the reception of the main Glens and city clubs for us was fantastic.  Loughgiel in particular went out of their way to make us welcome and when we beat them to win the competition, they couldn't have been fairer.  The home crowd cheered us off the pitch - possibly something to do with the fact that had we lost, we'd have been pipped by their "neighbours" by a point, I believe.  28 years later and I was as happy as any Loughgiel man when they lifted the cup in Croker.

Several of the Antrim clubs had no objection to us playing in the Antrim Minor championship as they saw it as the spreading of the beautiful game further west of the Bann, but guess who were the principal objectors?  Little wonder there was/is no love lost between the Hallions and other clubs.

Just spotted this on another thread thought it was relevant on here.
Hate people spouting BS  when they know nothing about, '84 centenary LEAGUE. Lavey could play in any league they wanted but not in an Antrim championship. I think the poster should be more grateful to the teams in Antrim who are welcoming their Derry cousins into their leagues and Go Games etc for the betterment of Ulster Hurling, havent seen the Derry board or Derry clubs coming up with something to do the same. So a bit more graciousness for those clubs going out of their way to help you would be much appreciated.

I remember heading to Lavey during the minor league, (Christ that was some time ago 88) was some game, there wasn't a hand that didn't have a cut on it and a game that was played hard but fair, think they beat us by 2 points. I wouldn't worry about that post NAG1, understand youre point but not worth the effort, what have they done since? Dungiven seem to be the only team that has actually put any effort in hurling since (bar the odd blip) so move on otherwise it will bring out a few trolls to have a swipe or two :o
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Post by: NAG1 on May 09, 2012, 08:23:15 AM
Yeah agreed MR2 but just gets the goat  ;)
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 09, 2012, 10:51:04 AM
excuse my ignorance but who are the cowhallions
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 09, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 11:12:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 09, 2012, 10:51:04 AM
excuse my ignorance but who are the cowhallions
Dunloy, I imagine.

Cúchulainns/Cowhallions.

oh right that figures bad blood between us and them, all our fault of course
Some sort of Lavey/Perth joke.
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Post by: Last Man on May 09, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 08, 2012, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on May 08, 2012, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: derrylad89 on May 07, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
i see slaughtneils minors played st john's in Antrim league last week is this a new thing or is their other Derry hurling teams in the Antrim league does it promote hurling in our own county? does this only happen at minor level and if so do they play Antrim championship i dont recall the good dungiven and lavey teams playing Antrim league in the 90's but i may be mistaken? it gota be tuff for dual clubs i would imagine its the same players playing both codes in these parishes?


One of my most prized medals is that for winning the Centenary Year 1984 Antrim Minor Hurling League with Lavey, when we dropped a single point v. Cushendall all season.  The standard was great too, and every game was a final.  There were fisticuffs v. GortnaMona and the CowHallions but otherwise the reception of the main Glens and city clubs for us was fantastic.  Loughgiel in particular went out of their way to make us welcome and when we beat them to win the competition, they couldn't have been fairer.  The home crowd cheered us off the pitch - possibly something to do with the fact that had we lost, we'd have been pipped by their "neighbours" by a point, I believe.  28 years later and I was as happy as any Loughgiel man when they lifted the cup in Croker.

Several of the Antrim clubs had no objection to us playing in the Antrim Minor championship as they saw it as the spreading of the beautiful game further west of the Bann, but guess who were the principal objectors?  Little wonder there was/is no love lost between the Hallions and other clubs.

Just spotted this on another thread thought it was relevant on here.
Hate people spouting BS  when they know nothing about, '84 centenary LEAGUE. Lavey could play in any league they wanted but not in an Antrim championship. I think the poster should be more grateful to the teams in Antrim who are welcoming their Derry cousins into their leagues and Go Games etc for the betterment of Ulster Hurling, havent seen the Derry board or Derry clubs coming up with something to do the same. So a bit more graciousness for those clubs going out of their way to help you would be much appreciated.

I remember heading to Lavey during the minor league, (Christ that was some time ago 88) was some game, there wasn't a hand that didn't have a cut on it and a game that was played hard but fair, think they beat us by 2 points. I wouldn't worry about that post NAG1, understand youre point but not worth the effort, what have they done since? Dungiven seem to be the only team that has actually put any effort in hurling since (bar the odd blip) so move on otherwise it will bring out a few trolls to have a swipe or two :o
I remember playing Lavey regularly at underage during the 80s against the Mcgurks,Downeys, Shack,Buffer etc, there was always a bite to the games because there was nothing between us but nothing ridiculous. Considering the characters involved I can't see what he's getting on his high horse about.
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Post by: CornerBackNo2 on May 09, 2012, 11:10:54 PM
Heard a rumour that Wallace has quit?
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Post by: tom moore83 on May 09, 2012, 11:17:21 PM
me to cornerback
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Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2012, 09:25:25 AM
Where is this coming from then lads?
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Post by: Onthehill on May 10, 2012, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on May 09, 2012, 11:10:54 PM
Heard a rumour that Wallace has quit?

Walked out of training on Tuesday night...a few things recently would suggest alls not well. Does anyone else know what's goin on?
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
Threatened to quit / left not happy - but no resignation and continuing to play happy families at minute.
All a bit of deja vu for Antrim.
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Post by: DearyMe on May 10, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
Training tonight - all will be made clear after that  ;)
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Post by: Jesusjones on May 10, 2012, 04:35:03 PM
Its hard to believe, anyone any ideas of what the problems are? When he was appointed so many of the players were delighted. I wonder what has happened to create such a bad atmosphere?
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
We always get the "players delighted" articles when any new manager is appointed. Bottom lines is it's too early in his fledgling career in county management to be seen to walk away from a team right before championship.
Maybe our loughiel contingent can shed some light?
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
I've no idea what's going on.      :)
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Post by: Minder on May 10, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Heard turnouts had been poor at training and fellas generally fcukin about, nothing new in Antrim really.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
Threatened to quit / left not happy - but no resignation and continuing to play happy families at minute.
All a bit of deja vu for Antrim.

Told you things where not good last week, but some clown sidetracked to topic to have a go at Dick(check out antrim post page 60). Sounds as if Jerry has lost the changing room. Hope imm wrong for the sake of the players but its all bad vibes at the minute.
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Post by: Onthehill on May 10, 2012, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
Threatened to quit / left not happy - but no resignation and continuing to play happy families at minute.
All a bit of deja vu for Antrim.

Told you things where not good last week, but some clown sidetracked to topic to have a go at Dick(check out antrim post page 60). Sounds as if Jerry has lost the changing room. Hope imm wrong for the sake of the players but its all bad vibes at the minute.

Antrim Post "Well I just made a decision that it was time to step aside....myself and Jerry just weren't on the same wave length on certain things and at the end of the days he's the manager. I think it was for the best for everyone concerned" said Gregory O Kane

This in contrast to Wallace

"I know there's a name already being bandied around but I'm not; I'm going to hold tough at the moment.

"We're going quite well, there's a good training group, everything is good in the camp, the players are all involved.

"With Gregory stepping away, everyone is wondering are there problems in our camp. I could dispel those [rumours].

"The players are a happy bunch of players. They're looking forward to the match against Westmeath on the 19th, as I am. We'll move on."

I also was told that Sambo isn't happy either...so there's something not right.



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Post by: manballandall on May 10, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
Think he might be a few weeks behind in ref to wing HS
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 10:19:09 PM
Is Seamus Shannon replacing McCullough then HS?
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Post by: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
I believe Antrim manager is too acceptant of standards in Antrim!  His frustration has turned to anxiety as he gets close to championship. 
O Kane leaving has rocked the boat - was Wallace listening to him?
Have heard other so called prominant 'hurling men' saying Wallace hasnt a clue.

better have a clue, come the 19th!

How was county training last night????? ;)
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Post by: optimus cheese on May 11, 2012, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 11, 2012, 07:51:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 10:19:09 PM
Is Seamus Shannon replacing McCullough then HS?
Looks like it, yeah.
Aidan Hamill still involved I suppose?
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Post by: saffron89 on May 11, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
I believe Antrim manager is too acceptant of standards in Antrim!  His frustration has turned to anxiety as he gets close to championship. 
O Kane leaving has rocked the boat - was Wallace listening to him?
Have heard other so called prominant 'hurling men' saying Wallace hasnt a clue.

better have a clue, come the 19th!

How was county training last night????? ;)

who are these prominant 'hurling men' SIE and MR" DearyMe indeed :P
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Post by: saffron89 on May 11, 2012, 06:24:03 PM
Oh no is Jerry going to start talking shite in the press like previous Antrim managers.

Wallace urges Cork hurlers to get more physical

By Michael Moynihan

Friday, May 11, 2012

Antrim hurling boss Jerry Wallace has called on the Cork County Board to change refereeing practices within the county to prepare players for the inter-county game.

Speaking in the wake of Kilkenny's 14-point win over Cork in Sunday's Allianz HL Division 1A final, Cork native Wallace said club games on Leeside were not physical enough to ready players for facing the likes of Kilkenny.

"Without being critical of anyone," said Wallace, "one observation I've made in training teams in Kerry and at the inter-county level with Antrim, Limerick and Cork over the last 10 years is that club players in other counties take more hits — the play is more physical than you see in Cork.

"I was at a junior game recently in Cork and one player hit 1-6 from frees and another 0-9 from frees, and I thought 'that can't be good for Cork hurling'."

Wallace called on Cork GAA chiefs to be proactive in dealing with the matter. "The Cork Board should look at issuing a directive to let the play go, say on a trial basis in the senior hurling leagues. Referees should be told to give players more leeway when it comes to physicality in the game and not to blow small or technical issues.

"When you look at the Examiner reports it'd be better for inter-county team if three or four fellas were getting 0-2 each from play rather than fellas getting 1-4 or 1-5 from frees.

"It's clear from last Sunday club competition in Cork is not preparing players for inter-county games against Kilkenny, in particular."

Wallace instanced a Kilkenny native now playing in Cork as further proof of the difference in refereeing styles between the two counties.

"This Kilkenny player, playing in Cork for several years, said to me: 'the referees seem to blow for everything here'. That comment is the kernel of the issue for me. The referees may say I'm having a cut off them, but I'm not; I just want to see what can be done to improve hurling in Cork."

Wallace, who has trained Ballyduff to senior hurling titles in Kerry as well as training Cork and Limerick, pointed out that the Kilkenny senior team prepare specifically for physical encounters: "I've seen Kilkenny train and they seem to play a lot of A versus B matches to condition players rather than doing a lot of drills.

"You can count the number of frees awarded at those training sessions on one hand, but what's more important to me is the culture of the team when it comes to those frees being awarded.

"I was at one session when two frees were awarded, but Henry Shefflin, who was playing, didn't come out to take them. The player who won the free did, but appeared to put them well wide on both occasions; that suggests to me there's no kudos for winning that kind of free compared to getting a score from play or doing something else in open play. Everyone knows if Henry's fit he takes the frees for Kilkenny, but presumably Brian Cody gets him to do his free-taking practice down in Ballyhale because if he's in Nowlan Park for Kilkenny training he's there to play a game."


Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/wallace-urges-cork-hurlers-to-get-more-physical-193564.html#ixzz1uaCKR2Kt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 11, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
I believe Antrim manager is too acceptant of standards in Antrim!  His frustration has turned to anxiety as he gets close to championship. 
O Kane leaving has rocked the boat - was Wallace listening to him?
Have heard other so called prominant 'hurling men' saying Wallace hasnt a clue.

better have a clue, come the 19th!

How was county training last night????? ;)

who are these prominant 'hurling men' SIE and MR" DearyMe indeed :P
I'm far from a "prominent hurling man", nor indeed would I post on here what is going on after the reaction I got the last time I did so, that is if I knew what was going on of course, which I don't.  :)  I've also never commented on JW on here. I don't know the man so I'll reserve my judgement until after a few games, if he's still around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
So do we do a sweep or give odds on JWs tenure?

My favourite is that he sees out the year then departs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 11, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
Threatened to quit / left not happy - but no resignation and continuing to play happy families at minute.
All a bit of deja vu for Antrim.

Told you things where not good last week, but some clown sidetracked to topic to have a go at Dick(check out antrim post page 60). Sounds as if Jerry has lost the changing room. Hope imm wrong for the sake of the players but its all bad vibes at the minute.
that 'clown' would of been me,  simply that DOK had used family and that was not the truth, i said last week there was a split in camp. then went on to say that IMO he was well named.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 11, 2012, 11:35:45 PM
but thats in the past.       so how do we see the semi finals of u21s going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 12, 2012, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 11, 2012, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 11, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
I believe Antrim manager is too acceptant of standards in Antrim!  His frustration has turned to anxiety as he gets close to championship. 
O Kane leaving has rocked the boat - was Wallace listening to him?
Have heard other so called prominant 'hurling men' saying Wallace hasnt a clue.

better have a clue, come the 19th!

How was county training last night????? ;)

who are these prominant 'hurling men' SIE and MR" DearyMe indeed :P

Dinny's bit on the side and some other barstool expert most likely. Why are we obsessed with making a balls of things in this county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 12, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
That's why we'll never win an All- Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2012, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 11, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2012, 12:07:20 PM
Threatened to quit / left not happy - but no resignation and continuing to play happy families at minute.
All a bit of deja vu for Antrim.

Told you things where not good last week, but some clown sidetracked to topic to have a go at Dick(check out antrim post page 60). Sounds as if Jerry has lost the changing room. Hope imm wrong for the sake of the players but its all bad vibes at the minute.
that 'clown' would of been me,  simply that DOK had used family and that was not the truth, i said last week there was a split in camp. then went on to say that IMO he was well named.

What is this even supposed to mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
Hardstation I hear of the passing of Ray McDonnell - RIP.
More of a football man but my God what a Rossa man.
Massive loss to your club and I know the sons still playing.
Lord have mercy on him - a real character, and a real man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2012, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 14, 2012, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 14, 2012, 09:36:51 AM
Hardstation I hear of the passing of Ray McDonnell - RIP.
More of a football man but my God what a Rossa man.
Massive loss to your club and I know the sons still playing.
Lord have mercy on him - a real character, and a real man.
Yeah, terrible news. A great fella.

+1
RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 14, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on May 14, 2012, 11:07:11 PM
Been told that access to the Dunsilly site is going to  be through the tunnell that goes under the railway in this view - can anyone confirm this? one in, one out?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=antrim+map&ll=54.736106,-6.232435&spn=0.000943,0.002411&hnear=Antrim,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=54.736106,-6.232435&panoid=wZdu7PDWrFS48Kd25aZrDQ&cbp=12,66.13,,0,7.21 (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=antrim+map&ll=54.736106,-6.232435&spn=0.000943,0.002411&hnear=Antrim,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=54.736106,-6.232435&panoid=wZdu7PDWrFS48Kd25aZrDQ&cbp=12,66.13,,0,7.21)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 14, 2012, 11:19:55 PM
Looks about right - don't think there is much of a chance of getting work done to alter the span of that railway bridge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
The car park will be road side and access below the tunnel on foot only from what I have heard, open to correction though. But to look at it currently, I wouldnt be wanting to be driving a bus through it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 15, 2012, 12:34:53 PM
I see Anthony Stapleton is the ref this Saturday. That could be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 15, 2012, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
The car park will be road side and access below the tunnel on foot only from what I have heard, open to correction though. But to look at it currently, I wouldnt be wanting to be driving a bus through it.
There is access from the Niblock road currently for site traffic, don't know if this is temporary though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 15, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 15, 2012, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
The car park will be road side and access below the tunnel on foot only from what I have heard, open to correction though. But to look at it currently, I wouldnt be wanting to be driving a bus through it.
There is access from the Niblock road currently for site traffic, don't know if this is temporary though.

From what I remember from the open day, access is by foot only. No bus will have access.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 15, 2012, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 15, 2012, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2012, 08:22:13 AM
The car park will be road side and access below the tunnel on foot only from what I have heard, open to correction though. But to look at it currently, I wouldnt be wanting to be driving a bus through it.
There is access from the Niblock road currently for site traffic, don't know if this is temporary though.

That access is a temp arrangement to allow development of the site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
Carson full back on Saturday. No McGourty or Stewart. John Kerr and Barney in for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 16, 2012, 11:47:14 AM
What's the full team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2012, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 16, 2012, 11:47:14 AM
What's the full team?

ASFAIK

DD
Kerr
Carson
Graffin
Gettens
McManus
McAuley
Barney
Shorty
B McFall
Herron
McCloskey
Hamill
Watson
McNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2012, 12:31:31 PM
MR2 can maybe fill us in on the absence of KS, would have thought if he was fully fit would have been one the first names on the sheet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 16, 2012, 12:31:31 PM
MR2 can maybe fill us in on the absence of KS, would have thought if he was fully fit would have been one the first names on the sheet?

Unless he's carrying an injury I can't imagine why he's not picked

Jerry is the manager and he picks the team, means he'll be fresh for us on Sunday against Lamhs :o

Thon lad Kerr only came on as a sub against us in the league for Rossa

Barney seemed slow for Antrim in his last outing and I thought Shorty had opted out of the panel? Bit of a head scratcher this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 16, 2012, 12:50:01 PM
John Kerr didn't play any part in the game against yis, milltown.

Ginger haired lad? thought I seen him warming up along side me, maybe he didn't get on. County hurler not starting for his own club??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 01:07:48 PM
Did Beattie not come on?

Anyways this Antrim team is a surprise in fairness. The players that have made it on the starting team must have been impressive during the lead up to this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 16, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
If that is right fair few surprises alright. PJ O'Connell I thought would have started ahead of Darren Hamill, Barry McFall gets a rare start (although fully deserved after performances when came on at the end of the league). Karl didn't have a great league by his own standards so maybe not too big a shock Barney comes in, he is always good for a few scores. Kieran dropped for John Kerr is a bit of a head scratcher though, he must really be flying in training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Yes its a strange team but Karl is definitely carrying injury Mr2? I spoke to your football brethren they tell me he is wanting to play (no surprise there) but not able.

Surprised at McGourty - Kerr would need to be playing better than he has for Rossa.

I think McManus and Watson are crucial - if they play well we win.
Graffin McAuley and McNaughton should all be a level above Westmeath at this stage.

I am going for a 8-10point win (hopefully!).
Goals are key to this game for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Yes its a strange team but Karl is definitely carrying injury Mr2? I spoke to your football brethren they tell me he is wanting to play (no surprise there) but not able.

Surprised at McGourty - Kerr would need to be playing better than he has for Rossa.

I think McManus and Watson are crucial - if they play well we win.
Graffin McAuley and McNaughton should all be a level above Westmeath at this stage.

I am going for a 8-10point win (hopefully!).
Goals are key to this game for me.

Karl has been injured for a while so was never playing. Just heard Keiran has a serious enough injury, and thats the reason hes not picked. Got it against Glenariffe (dirty cnuts)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Yes its a strange team but Karl is definitely carrying injury Mr2? I spoke to your football brethren they tell me he is wanting to play (no surprise there) but not able.

Surprised at McGourty - Kerr would need to be playing better than he has for Rossa.

I think McManus and Watson are crucial - if they play well we win.
Graffin McAuley and McNaughton should all be a level above Westmeath at this stage.

I am going for a 8-10point win (hopefully!).
Goals are key to this game for me.

Karl has been injured for a while so was never playing. Just heard Keiran has a serious enough injury, and thats the reason hes not picked. Got it against Glenariffe (dirty cnuts)

He hasnt been shy of handing a few out in the past MR2 what goes around comes around, unfortunate to miss a big game though over the head of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.

He'll be fine for Galway game I'm sure. Maybe even play against Lamhs on Sunday :o

NAG1 I've never seen Keiran dish any dirt in my time, I've hurled and watched him hurl for over 20 years. Not in him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2012, 02:42:52 PM
I didn't necessarily mean dirty slaps MR2, he hurled close to the edge especially when he was younger. Nor did I say that was a bad thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2012, 02:48:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.

He'll be fine for Galway game I'm sure. Maybe even play against Lamhs on Sunday :o

NAG1 I've never seen Keiran dish any dirt in my time, I've hurled and watched him hurl for over 20 years. Not in him
I wouldn't say Kieran is a dirty hurler

Hippy, McGourty & Karl S are all out so that explains Carson,Kerr & Barney. Hamill picked over PJ. Very little left on the bench after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on May 16, 2012, 02:52:14 PM
Get real men! What else is on this weekend!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on May 16, 2012, 02:52:14 PM
Get real men! What else is on this Saturday!!!!!!!

Div 4 football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:55:50 PM
The Balmoral Show?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
North West, Championship Play Off final, HK Cup, Champions League Final apart from that its quiet enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2012, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 16, 2012, 02:48:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.

He'll be fine for Galway game I'm sure. Maybe even play against Lamhs on Sunday :o

NAG1 I've never seen Keiran dish any dirt in my time, I've hurled and watched him hurl for over 20 years. Not in him
I wouldn't say Kieran is a dirty hurler

Hippy, McGourty & Karl S are all out so that explains Carson,Kerr & Barney. Hamill picked over PJ. Very little left on the bench after that.

Mc gourty's  not a dirty hurler but hes hard when the going gets tough, any time i watched antrim he gave a good shift. only weakness would be his striking under pressure, he cant get the ball that far. I think Karl will be a big miss, Barney has lost a bit of speed but will give you an honest game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 16, 2012, 03:35:49 PM
Thats a good team, don't know much about Kerr but good to see Shorty in his best position and along with Barney will put in a good shift there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 16, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
From website

1   DD Quinn Na Seamroga
2   John Kerr    Ui D Rosa
3   Conor Carson   Ruairi Og
4   Aaron Graffin   Ruairi Og
5   Michael Gettens   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
6   Neil Mc Manus   Ruairi Og
7   Neal Mc Auley   Mac Uilin
8   Barney Mc Auley   Na Seamroga
9   Paul Shiels    Cu Chullain
10   Michael Herron   Lamh  Dhearg
11   Barry McFall   Naomh Eoin
12   Eddie McCloskey   Na Seamroga
13   Darren Hamill   Shane O Neills
14   Liam Watson   Na Seamroga
15   Shane Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og
16   Seanan Mc Toal   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17   Kieran Mc Gourty   Naomh Gall
18   Mark Rea    Padraig Sairseil
19   Simon Mc Crory   Naomh Eoin
20   Karl Stewart   Naomh Gall
21   Conor Mc Cann   Ciceaim Creágan
22   Colm McFall   Naomh Eoin
23   PJ O Connell   Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
24   Sean Mc Laughlin   Cathaoir an Rí
25   Kevin Grieve   Naomh Una
26   Chris O Connell   Na Seamroga
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 16, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.

He'll be fine for Galway game I'm sure. Maybe even play against Lamhs on Sunday :o

NAG1 I've never seen Keiran dish any dirt in my time, I've hurled and watched him hurl for over 20 years. Not in him

no Mccourty an honest hard working lad, never a dirty stroke or a foul mouth rant, just a real gentleman (loves his training).  Does alot of great charity work.  A smashing fella.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 16, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 16, 2012, 02:20:33 PM
McGourty wear and tear injury or dirty stroke?
Would prefer him back for the Galway game.

He'll be fine for Galway game I'm sure. Maybe even play against Lamhs on Sunday :o

NAG1 I've never seen Keiran dish any dirt in my time, I've hurled and watched him hurl for over 20 years. Not in him

no Mccourty an honest hard working lad, never a dirty stroke or a foul mouth rant, just a real gentleman (loves his training).  Does alot of great charity work.  A smashing fella.

Off to Adam Drury's testimonial, I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2012, 06:13:16 AM
There's a change in the u21 semis. Both matches are in Dunloy on 2nd June. McQuillans v Shamrocks 5pm, St. Kevin's v Ruari Og 7pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 17, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 16, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
From website

1   DD Quinn Na Seamroga
2   John Kerr    Ui D Rosa
3   Conor Carson   Ruairi Og
4   Aaron Graffin   Ruairi Og
5   Michael Gettens   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
6   Neil Mc Manus   Ruairi Og
7   Neal Mc Auley   Mac Uilin
8   Barney Mc Auley   Na Seamroga
9   Paul Shiels    c* Chullain
10   Michael Herron   Lamh  Dhearg
11   Barry McFall   Naomh Eoin
12   Eddie McCloskey   Na Seamroga
13   Darren Hamill   Shane O Neills
14   Liam Watson   Na Seamroga
15   Shane Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og
16   Seanan Mc Toal   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17   Kieran Mc Gourty   Naomh Gall
18   Mark Rea    Padraig Sairseil
19   Simon Mc Crory   Naomh Eoin
20   Karl Stewart   Naomh Gall
21   Conor Mc Cann   Ciceaim Creágan
22   Colm McFall   Naomh Eoin
23   PJ O Connell   Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
24   Sean Mc Laughlin   Cathaoir an Rí
25   Kevin Grieve   Naomh Una
26   Chris O Connell   Na Seamroga

Wasn't that impressed with young Carson at fullback in a league game we'd up in Cushendall last year, big magic had him beaten all ends up and that was with a poor enough supply of the ball. He'll be grand against Westmeath as I'd expect Antrim to be winning by 10 plus points, but I think you'll need someone quicker over the ground for Galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2012, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 17, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 16, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
From website

1   DD Quinn Na Seamroga
2   John Kerr    Ui D Rosa
3   Conor Carson   Ruairi Og
4   Aaron Graffin   Ruairi Og
5   Michael Gettens   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
6   Neil Mc Manus   Ruairi Og
7   Neal Mc Auley   Mac Uilin
8   Barney Mc Auley   Na Seamroga
9   Paul Shiels    c* Chullain
10   Michael Herron   Lamh  Dhearg
11   Barry McFall   Naomh Eoin
12   Eddie McCloskey   Na Seamroga
13   Darren Hamill   Shane O Neills
14   Liam Watson   Na Seamroga
15   Shane Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og
16   Seanan Mc Toal   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17   Kieran Mc Gourty   Naomh Gall
18   Mark Rea    Padraig Sairseil
19   Simon Mc Crory   Naomh Eoin
20   Karl Stewart   Naomh Gall
21   Conor Mc Cann   Ciceaim Creágan
22   Colm McFall   Naomh Eoin
23   PJ O Connell   Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
24   Sean Mc Laughlin   Cathaoir an Rí
25   Kevin Grieve   Naomh Una
26   Chris O Connell   Na Seamroga

Wasn't that impressed with young Carson at fullback in a league game we'd up in Cushendall last year, big magic had him beaten all ends up and that was with a poor enough supply of the ball. He'll be grand against Westmeath as I'd expect Antrim to be winning by 10 plus points, but I think you'll need someone quicker over the ground for Galway.

Quicker in alot more senses than just over the ground JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2012, 10:03:54 AM
I really wouldn't worry about Carson doing fullback. We should have enough quality, even without the injured players to beat Westmeath (should we start well)

Match been changed to 3pm also which was sensible enough, was going to go and stay over but we have a senior game the next day so will be listening to it on radio, no doubt Midlands radio will be covering it, with their unbiased commentary :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home. If carson has a bad day and we we leak two or three goals chances are we'll get chinned. Didnt know the time was changed thats a full day now instead of half a day. Fixtures people have no consideration to fans with livestock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2012, 12:38:42 PM
Dont worry we have DD behind young Carson, he should keep him straight.

Should be looking for a confidence building win and then kick on, no doubt it will be a tough one as they never give anything up easy but a bit more quality on the day should see us home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home. If carson has a bad day and we we leak two or three goals chances are we'll get chinned. Didnt know the time was changed thats a full day now instead of half a day. Fixtures people have no consideration to fans with livestock.

Surely you boys are entitled to some sort of grant for that like everything else in farming?
I mean you would never find us city folk scamming the system know what i mean like!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 17, 2012, 04:22:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home. If carson has a bad day and we we leak two or three goals chances are we'll get chinned. Didnt know the time was changed thats a full day now instead of half a day. Fixtures people have no consideration to fans with livestock.

Surely you boys are entitled to some sort of grant for that like everything else in farming?
I mean you would never find us city folk scamming the system know what i mean like!

True, but I suppose you couldn't see a DLA micro pulling an Ifor williams trailer full of ewes!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home. If carson has a bad day and we we leak two or three goals chances are we'll get chinned. Didnt know the time was changed thats a full day now instead of half a day. Fixtures people have no consideration to fans with livestock.

Surely you boys are entitled to some sort of grant for that like everything else in farming?
I mean you would never find us city folk scamming the system know what i mean like!

do me a favour, more money spent on mobility cars round your neck of the woods than grants for us poor basturds. Imm gonna sell out move up to the city and ride the system. Might even stop eating spuds and go buy chips for breakfast and all LOL. all i have to ajust is everytime i go to speak start with HERES ME and finish with SO IT IS. When imm hurling a bit less catching and striking and bit more boarding. Only joking wha wha wha wha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 17, 2012, 04:22:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home. If carson has a bad day and we we leak two or three goals chances are we'll get chinned. Didnt know the time was changed thats a full day now instead of half a day. Fixtures people have no consideration to fans with livestock.

Surely you boys are entitled to some sort of grant for that like everything else in farming?
I mean you would never find us city folk scamming the system know what i mean like!

True, but I suppose you couldn't see a DLA micro pulling an Ifor williams trailer full of ewes!

Brilliant
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
So here's me thinking the loughiel boys deserve more stick about cars so I am!
Sure DLA motors are all cut back know what I mean like. It's the jobseekers and the housing benefit that's sweet. M'on see the chips we buy with it so we do.

DLA motors wouldn't suit you culshies - they can't run on the red diesel!

Poor mullingar is getting a visit from some mix of Antrim folk! Let's just hope our hurling is the impression we make!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
So here's me thinking the loughiel boys deserve more stick about cars so I am!
Sure DLA motors are all cut back know what I mean like. It's the jobseekers and the housing benefit that's sweet. M'on see the chips we buy with it so we do.

DLA motors wouldn't suit you culshies - they can't run on the red diesel!

Poor mullingar is getting a visit from some mix of Antrim folk! Let's just hope our hurling is the impression we make!
Or Dunloy in NAH's case.  ;)

At least when we buy our red biddy she's out of a pump up the side of the garage, not out of a pump hidden in a bush in the middle of a housing estate.  ;)
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
Housing estates! That's only cos u village folk don't have any SiE! Sure u are all in those farmhouses bought with EU grants!

And by the way - in some Belfast clubs they refer to housing estates as "developments" now!

U see us mc cooeys can fight amongst each other just as well as the glens cousins and half brothers etc! Sure it's all the same once u go above the 7 towers! Know what I mean like! So it is.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
So here's me thinking the loughiel boys deserve more stick about cars so I am!
Sure DLA motors are all cut back know what I mean like. It's the jobseekers and the housing benefit that's sweet. M'on see the chips we buy with it so we do.

DLA motors wouldn't suit you culshies - they can't run on the red diesel!

Poor mullingar is getting a visit from some mix of Antrim folk! Let's just hope our hurling is the impression we make!
Or Dunloy in NAH's case.  ;)

At least when we buy our red biddy she's out of a pump up the side of the garage, not out of a pump hidden in a bush in the middle of a housing estate.  ;)

got a 1000 litre tank of it my yard, ten pence a litre cheaper when you buy in bulk, Ill get to mullangar cheaper than the wha wha's.  I hope somebody from the Exchequer isn't a antrim hurling fan reading this. then again the benefit fraud crowd would looking for our city brethren. we all should be ashamed of ourselves there ony after given us a big sum for casement refurb after all.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
Housing estates! That's only cos u village folk don't have any SiE! Sure u are all in those farmhouses bought with EU grants!

And by the way - in some Belfast clubs they refer to housing estates as "developments" now!

U see us mc cooeys can fight amongst each other just as well as the glens cousins and half brothers etc! Sure it's all the same once u go above the 7 towers! Know what I mean like! So it is.

I think you  would be more accurate by stating theres been development on our estate,anyway come Saturday where all saffrons even the ones who's front garden you couldn't swing a cat in
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 10:09:31 PM
BT11&12 = housing estate BT9 = housing development
We'd be claiming benefits for the cat! And u boys claiming grants on the garden!

Anyway whatever part of Antrim I think we should be grand on Saturday still thinking 10point win.
Was hoping it might get a minority tv slot if early/evening game.
That football championship doesn't raise an eyebrow for me at all!

Also I can't help but wonder how the result will slant the current difficulties within the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 17, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2012, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
So here's me thinking the loughiel boys deserve more stick about cars so I am!
Sure DLA motors are all cut back know what I mean like. It's the jobseekers and the housing benefit that's sweet. M'on see the chips we buy with it so we do.

DLA motors wouldn't suit you culshies - they can't run on the red diesel!

Poor mullingar is getting a visit from some mix of Antrim folk! Let's just hope our hurling is the impression we make!
Or Dunloy in NAH's case.  ;)

At least when we buy our red biddy she's out of a pump up the side of the garage, not out of a pump hidden in a bush in the middle of a housing estate.  ;)

got a 1000 litre tank of it my yard, ten pence a litre cheaper when you buy in bulk, Ill get to mullangar cheaper than the wha wha's.  I hope somebody from the Exchequer isn't a antrim hurling fan reading this. then again the benefit fraud crowd would looking for our city brethren. we all should be ashamed of ourselves there ony after given us a big sum for casement refurb after all.

And they still won't let us into the control tower!  >:(
What's Mullingar anyway lads, an 8 tinner do u reckon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 18, 2012, 09:28:59 AM
Any of you Loughgeil boys IM me your book of excuses to get games moved?

We're up with Dunloy on Sunday but half the team will be in Galway for a lad who's emigrating to Australia's leaving do!!

Don't get me started on having a leaving do in Galway as I've never heard anything so stupid, but there you go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AhJaysusRef on May 18, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
What is a 'do' ?

What do you do at one of these do's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 18, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Predictions for this weeks games
Div 1

Loughgeil  v St Johns _____ Loughgeil by mebbe 8/10 points dependant on the team they put out

Portaferry v Ballycran _____ Ballycran - no points so far but they gave the Dall a game and need those points

Dunloy v Ballygalget ______ Dunloy - I'd expect Dunloy to win anyway but jonnycool says Ballygalgets missin players so Dunloy pretty handy

Cushendall v Ballycastle_____ Cushendall - the Town still missin players. They done ok so far but without Hippy and Matty the Dall will be too much for them.


Div 2

Randalstown v Rossa ______ Rossa - theyve woke up at last

St Galls v Lamh Dhearg_____ St Galls -  could be close but St Galls have the edge

Gort na Mona v Glenariffe____Glenariffe pretty handy

Carey v Sarsfields _________ Sarsfields
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 18, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Predictions for this weeks games
Div 1

Loughgeil  v St Johns _____ Loughgeil by mebbe 8/10 points dependant on the team they put out

Portaferry v Ballycran _____ Ballycran - no points so far but they gave the Dall a game and need those points

Dunloy v Ballygalget ______ Dunloy - I'd expect Dunloy to win anyway but jonnycool says Ballygalgets missin players so Dunloy pretty handy

Cushendall v Ballycastle_____ Cushendall - the Town still missin players. They done ok so far but without Hippy and Matty the Dall will be too much for them.


Div 2

Randalstown v Rossa ______ Rossa - theyve woke up at last

St Galls v Lamh Dhearg_____ St Galls -  could be close but St Galls have the edge

Gort na Mona v Glenariffe____Glenariffe pretty handy

Carey v Sarsfields _________ Sarsfields

We are missing a shit load, exams and injuries. Two county boys out and a rate of lads with hamstring injuries. We never get it easy with Lamhs, ever

Carey beat Lamhs so they might have turned a corner, Glenaiffe, agreed handy enough in the big smoke. Rossa can't be complacient away to Tir Na Og, they fight like fook and a very good half back line.

I'll agree with the rest. Seems Loughgiel will have played the Johnnies home and away early, good call (bringing match forward) as I'm sure they would be wanting to prepare for the Ulster Championship aroun d that time :o
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Post by: btdtgtt on May 18, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
I agree with MR2 altho as usual you run-down Galls Re players missing.

In div1 - wins for loughiuel dunloy and cushendall

In div2 - only the glenarriffe game is a foregone conclusion. there's plenty to play for everywhere else and thats what makes this the league it is. Fancy Galls tho Mr2 dont let Oisins back in need another city side in top tier!
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2012, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 18, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
I agree with MR2 altho as usual you run-down Galls Re players missing.

In div1 - wins for loughiuel dunloy and cushendall

In div2 - only the glenarriffe game is a foregone conclusion. there's plenty to play for everywhere else and thats what makes this the league it is. Fancy Galls tho Mr2 dont let Oisins back in need another city side in top tier!

Can only tell you truth re injured players!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on May 18, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
I take it mcGourty and Stewart won't be stripping out MR2, since they are badly injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 18, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
Glenariffe definately missing Randal McDonnell...broke his hand playing against Sars
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2012, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 18, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
I take it mcGourty and Stewart won't be stripping out MR2, since they are badly injured?

Wont know till Sunday, Lamhs by all accounts struggling to. Even itself out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 18, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2012, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 18, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
I take it mcGourty and Stewart won't be stripping out MR2, since they are badly injured?

Wont know till Sunday, Lamhs by all accounts struggling to. Even itself out

No chance whatsoever of McGourty playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2012, 02:30:50 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 03:34:31 PM
6-1 with Westmeath down to 14 men.

Watson has been booked but hopefully he will keep calm.

Watson, McNaughton and McManus doing the scoring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
7-2. Mcnaughton just missed a simple free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 03:45:08 PM
Ht.  Westmeath 0-03 Antrim  0-08. Eddie booked just before Ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
7-2. Mcnaughton just missed a simple free.


Ya hit many frees when ya played? :o

Not a great lead in fairness, Westmeath down to 14 and with the wind behind them it may get a bit closer than Jerry thought. Scoring 8 points with the wind is a poor return
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
7-2. Mcnaughton just missed a simple free.


Ya hit many frees when ya played? :o

Not a great lead in fairness, Westmeath down to 14 and with the wind behind them it may get a bit closer than Jerry thought. Scoring 8 points with the wind is a poor return
I never missed one.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:03:07 PM
10-5. 5 mins gone 2ND half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
4 in it. I do not like this >:(

We have any aspirations we should be beating these guys, no offense to them, out the gate.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
11-9. Stewart on for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
11-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:16:34 PM
They've let McManus take the last 2 frees, missed them both. Maybe its time winker had a go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Herron off, O'Connell on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
All square
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
Wm 1 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
All square

down a point >:(

to 14 men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:31:17 PM
2 up. I did say Westmeath might sneak this. Antrim over rated as usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:35:04 PM
Westmeath win 14-12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Antrim stuffed by the mighty Westmeath ( 14 men ).............enough said. Going backwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2012, 04:34:16 PM
Pathetic!
am not wanting to run the lads down,   but what a joke.   i said a few weeks back that they would want to be carefull!!     f**k ME!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Get a team of experienced Div 1 men out there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
Few of you boys coming out of the woodwork now it seems. Buswhacker your division 1 argument is nonsense - nothing to do with anything.

That's as bad a result as we've had in a long time. Wouldn't have happened under Dinny Cahill but not much good saying that now >:(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2012, 04:40:22 PM
Get rid of the line. Every fcukin one of them.

Why is it that any time we shaft a manager the next crowd make a balls of it? And why is Sambo always in the next crowd?
I concur, 100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 19, 2012, 04:48:07 PM
8 3 up at half time and them down to 14 men. For Christ's sake, what the hell happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 04:52:24 PM
Im tommygunn........Div 3 and 4 players don't get the experience in their local leagues to compete at county level,I don't care what you think. Wake up and smell the coffee, with a few exceptions this is basically an Antrim junior team.A bloody disgrace !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on May 19, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
That's probably a worse result than a 20 point drubbing by one of the big teams.  Hardstation has it spot on...pathetic!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 04:52:24 PM
Im tommygunn........Div 3 and 4 players don't get the experience in their local leagues to compete at county level,I don't care what you think. Wake up and smell the coffee, with a few exceptions this is basically an Antrim junior team.A bloody disgrace !!

You are full of crap as ever buswhacker - did you even look at the team sheet or just use the result to try and peddle the usual nonsense?

So barring 11 of our 15 starters I guess we were made up of intermediate players ::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
A new low
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Post by: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 05:23:15 PM
Tommygunn ....It's a bloody disaster and  who's to blame........me?. No, it's the manager and whoever put this team out.You should admit that or what's you're problem?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
Buswhacker I am not disagreeing that it is a disaster - it is one of our worst results in a long time.

I have no relations anywhere near the teams. Your argument about division 1 and division 2 is nonsense and the fact that 11 division 1 players on the team illustrates that you just use a result, without even knowing what you're talking about, to fuel that argument. All I am doing is picking holes in your "I told you so" argument.

Dinny Cahill has been the best man to manage antrim during my lifetime and we go rid of him. Maybe Wallace can turn it round and I hope he does but over the last 10 years we have never done well against southern opposition, any southern opposition, without Cahill in charge. Last year against westmeath we were simply on a different level to them - with the same players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 19, 2012, 06:10:12 PM
Awful result, bad day for Antrim and Ulster hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 19, 2012, 07:50:13 PM
WTF was that all about,fukin depressing cant believe how brutal we where. 2nd half non existant. two of three players in the press the last couple ranting about the special system wallace is deploying. it didn't work at limerick and certainly isn't working here. next time Jerry is briefing them when he finished with the ''play to the system,composure on the ball etc'' his last words should be : and don't forget to fuking hurl as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
No surprises that the turnouts were poor at training, always the same regardless of manager. You get out of it what you put in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 19, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
No surprises that the turnouts were poor at training, always the same regardless of manager. You get out of it what you put in.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Same old story year after year.Same old excuses year after year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 19, 2012, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Same old story year after year.Same old excuses year after year.
I am not an Antrim man but I am bitterly disappointed for Antrim today. Derry too is depressing, I was at that game and to be fair if it had gone on another 5 mins Derry would have won but all in all another depresing day for Ulster hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on May 19, 2012, 09:31:40 PM
ok - given the talk of "a new dawn" and the feelgood factor after Loughgiel's win in March, today's result is dire. However, let's remember that Westmeath should have beat us at Casement last year and have been waiting 12 months for this! But from the reports of that second half, it was SINFUL - obviously some of those guys do not want to wear the shirt! Embarrasment all round. Its Jerry Wallace I feel sorry for - would not be suprised if he jacks it in...  :( :-[ :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2012, 09:35:31 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 19, 2012, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 19, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Same old story year after year.Same old excuses year after year.
I am not an Antrim man but I am bitterly disappointed for Antrim today. Derry too is depressing, I was at that game and to be fair if it had gone on another 5 mins Derry would have won but all in all another depresing day for Ulster hurling.
It hasn't been all depressing for Ulster hurling this year.  ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on May 19, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
At least an Ulster hurling final will give us a chance to redeem ourselves!  :P NOT!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 19, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
Absolutely horrific in that second half. Simply, we were bullied and beaten by a team that had desire, fight and were playing with a Championship intensity. Maybe they though they had it won at half-time, I don't know. But that really was garbage and an embarrasing display
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 19, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
Yip never came out for the 2nd half. Actually started the game quite well, went 3 points up and Shane McNaughton and Liam Watson looked like they were going to have a field day. Then an incident happened that i thought showed the difference in attitude between the 2 teams. As play was stopped before a close in Wmth free, at the other end 4 Wmth backs surrounded Watson and there was some digging going on. But yet there was more Wmth players arrived on the scene before another Antrim player did. I thought it was interesting and didnt suggest a fight for all attitude in the Antrim team.

As for the 2nd half the Wmth half back and full back lines simply won their individual battles against their direct opponents and the supply to McNaughton and Watson stopped. And even as Wmth kept reducing the lead i dont think it dawned on our team that they were in trouble. By the time Wmth took the lead all the momentum was with them and Antrim had no response. The hungrier team won the day.

Conor Carson in the first half lookd like he was a more than capable replacement for Cormac Donnelly but late in the 2nd half he made a couple of mistakes which led to points which i dont think Cormac would have made. No drive from midfield and half forward line poor especially in the 2nd half when they won very little ball. A very bad day at the office but fair paly to Westmeath they could have given it up at half time when 5 down and a man down but their hunger and tackling seen them over the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Yes, agree with all of that. And to add to today's disaster, Hippy was sent off for coming onto the field and getting involved in that incident so it looks like he will be suspended now. Half forwards were anonymous in the second half, Micko had a shocker and Barry McFaul wasn't up to much. They should have been replaced much earlier. You knew with 15 minutes to go it was only going to end one way. I'm not really sure where we go from here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2012, 12:59:18 AM
Where was this game on today? In Westmeath?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 01:05:14 AM
Mullingar this afternoon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2012, 01:18:11 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 01:05:14 AM
Mullingar this afternoon

So do all Antrim's Leinster hurling c'ship games have to be played in Leinster, or can they get any up to Casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:09:41 AM
Is this really so shocking? not to me. I did predict this. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2012, 02:14:01 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 19, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
Yip never came out for the 2nd half. Actually started the game quite well, went 3 points up and Shane McNaughton and Liam Watson looked like they were going to have a field day. Then an incident happened that i thought showed the difference in attitude between the 2 teams. As play was stopped before a close in Wmth free, at the other end 4 Wmth backs surrounded Watson and there was some digging going on. But yet there was more Wmth players arrived on the scene before another Antrim player did.  I thought it was interesting and didnt suggest a fight for all attitude in the Antrim team.

As for the 2nd half the Wmth half back and full back lines simply won their individual battles against their direct opponents and the supply to McNaughton and Watson stopped. And even as Wmth kept reducing the lead i dont think it dawned on our team that they were in trouble. By the time Wmth took the lead all the momentum was with them and Antrim had no response. The hungrier team won the day.

Conor Carson in the first half lookd like he was a more than capable replacement for Cormac Donnelly but late in the 2nd half he made a couple of mistakes which led to points which i dont think Cormac would have made. No drive from midfield and half forward line poor especially in the 2nd half when they won very little ball. A very bad day at the office but fair paly to Westmeath they could have given it up at half time when 5 down and a man down but their hunger and tackling seen them over the line.
says alot so it does,   not because he is a club mate,  but when you pull on the jersey its all for one,  not the case today. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2012, 02:16:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:09:41 AM
Is this really so shocking? not to me. I did predict this.
are you looking a 'well done' SIE,   i also said they would want to be carefull,  but not making me feel any better tonight.  jesus it was poor result against 14 men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 20, 2012, 02:17:27 AM
Ok lads let me first of all say that I was not at the game today so this is a bit of filling in on my behalf and I understand if those who were in Mullingar put my back in my box.

1) the commitment of the players involved, at the atmosphere in the camp has been as poor as today's result. You get out what you put in and all that. The reasons for this remain up for debate or perspective.

2) we have again selected people on the basis of how wel they get on with management and pay lip service - rather than ability. 

3) we are boys not men - physically and mentally. Physically we can be bullied and mentally we are only good when on top unable to dig deep.

That's My impression anyway - does anyone know how the rest if the season goes? Are we in the back door? Is there play offs?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2012, 02:16:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:09:41 AM
Is this really so shocking? not to me. I did predict this.
are you looking a 'well done' SIE,   i also said they would want to be carefull,  but not making me feel any better tonight.  jesus it was poor result against 14 men
absolutely not sg, just recognition of the fact that all is not well and that you were deluded the same as most people on here that we were going to win this match. We were never going to win it. and if you truly know what was going on you wouldn't be  surprised. Don't take your frustrations out on me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 02:56:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
We were never going to win it.

We were never going to win it ? Really? We were beat by a couple of points and to say we were never going to win it against westmeath is a nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 02:56:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
We were never going to win it.

We were never going to win it ? Really? We were beat by a couple of points and to say we were never going to win it against westmeath is a nonsense.
take a look back at my posts recently. It's no surprise to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2012, 03:06:38 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
Do you think it will be easy?  I was thinking it could be a tough enough one,  there after improving alot as past few years.  Although I do here they have lost alot of players to the states
wasnt deluded one bit mate.  you on the sauce?? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 20, 2012, 09:41:06 AM
Found out playing average club hurlers at inter county level!
As mentioned previously - would we have been beat yday with dc at the helm?

I also noted that we named 3 Goalkeepers in the 26 - you never can be too sure  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 02:56:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
We were never going to win it.

We were never going to win it ? Really? We were beat by a couple of points and to say we were never going to win it against westmeath is a nonsense.
take a look back at my posts recently. It's no surprise to me.
It may not that big a surprise that we didn't win it but we got beat in a tight game. To say we were never going to win it is bullsh*t. I very much doubt in your previous posts you said we were never going to win this game - hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I do wonder about some people who post here and whether they actually support their county at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
Aye but.......why did we need 3 goalkeepers???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 20, 2012, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 02:56:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
We were never going to win it.

We were never going to win it ? Really? We were beat by a couple of points and to say we were never going to win it against westmeath is a nonsense.
take a look back at my posts recently. It's no surprise to me.
It may not that big a surprise that we didn't win it but we got beat in a tight game. To say we were never going to win it is bullsh*t. I very much doubt in your previous posts you said we were never going to win this game - hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I do wonder about some people who post here and whether they actually support their county at times.

I have to agree with SIE on this one.  It is no secret that all isn't well within the camp and hasn't been for a number of months.  I hoped they would have been able to put it behind them for the game and lift their whole play but it didn't happen.  Where do we go from here is the big question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2012, 01:18:11 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 01:05:14 AM
Mullingar this afternoon

So do all Antrim's Leinster hurling c'ship games have to be played in Leinster, or can they get any up to Casement?

Yeah, think that was the agreement, same for Galway. If we get a home draw (like the Offaly game in 2010) we play on a neutral venue. Fair enough I feel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
Where do we go? Haven't a clue now. Some of the decisions on the line were baffling. Karl Stewart came in at full-forward and stayed there. I heard Karl hadn't been fit but why put him on there, Conor McCann came in and scored with his first touch, surely a better option there. Watson wasn't moved out of the ff line when it was obvious the supply had been cut to him. Moving him out to wing forward could have made a diff. Simon McCrory came on at corner back for Kerr who was injured late on.
That's just clutcing at straws as the real issue was lack of fight and intensity in the second half. Maybe we thought that five up with a man advantage in the 2nd half we had it in the bag but when you ease up and the opposition come on strong it's nearly impossible to get going again. Really looks bleak for this year, hope I'm wrong but can't see it going any other way but a heavy defeat if we get Tipp,Limerick or someone like that in the qualifiers preliminary round
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on May 20, 2012, 01:42:55 PM
worst result in our history?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 20, 2012, 01:42:55 PM
worst result in our history?
nope, losing to Derry in the Ulster final has to be up there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 20, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Yeah that's probably true. Although in the aftermath of yesterday it's hard not to feel as if that was a new low.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
Half time in loughgiel. Shams up 1-10 to 8 points. We're resting 7 regulars.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on May 20, 2012, 05:17:24 PM
Who gives a f**k. County is in a mess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 05:18:38 PM
I give a f**k. Loughgiel 2-19 St. johns 0-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 20, 2012, 05:54:21 PM
this is certainly not the worst result in the hurlers history.  plenty before it, some ulster finals spring to mind.  but why  was this such a big surprise.  Westmeath proved difficult for Galway last year.  Antrim for some reason thought it was a formality.  I'll be interested to see how Jerry does now.  Training again Tuesday nite.  too many boys missing these trainings, no matter who the manager is this is simply not acceptable. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 05:59:44 PM
Gold..........."who gives a f..k.County in a mess".Maybe if the county team had a bit more of the Shamrock spirit and ability we would not be in a mess. Three players from the All- Ireland club champions on the county team yesterday. Gold..... maybe there  was not enough of your're clubs players on.....more like too many
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
Half time in loughgiel. Shams up 1-10 to 8 points. We're resting 7 regulars.

Resting? Where are they resting? Galgorm Spa?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 05:59:44 PM
Gold..........."who gives a f..k.County in a mess".Maybe if the county team had a bit more of the Shamrock spirit and ability we would not be in a mess. Three players from the All- Ireland club champions on the county team yesterday. Gold..... maybe there  was not enough of your're clubs players on.....more like too many

Bushwhacker, that's a silly post, are you saying that the ability that Loughgiel has, would have beat Westmeath?

Please save us this crap, there were tools out there saying that shite when we won the football, that we would be better than the current Antrim team.

Answer me this Bushwhacker, and you can only name the players that have made themselves available for the county and fit, what's your all div 1 team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
yes milltown,the team that won on Paddy's day,playing like they did,would have beaten Westmeath. They could have done no worse than yesterday's outfit,maybe we need a few more Div 2,3 and 4 players, with their vast experience of Antrim club hurling at it's highest level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 20, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
Bushwacker get real, are you telling me the best 15 hurlers in Antrim are all from Loughgiel? You wouldn't take Mc Manus, Graffin, Hippy, Shane Mc Naughton, Karl Stewart or Neil Mc Auley?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 20, 2012, 09:19:27 PM
Big score today milltown. You couldn't of been too short! Favourites for div1 next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2012, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
yes milltown,the team that won on Paddy's day,playing like they did,would have beaten Westmeath. They could have done no worse than yesterday's outfit,maybe we need a few more Div 2,3 and 4 players, with their vast experience of Antrim club hurling at it's highest level.

jesus man are u for real, well you had your most prolific player was there and he didnt score 3.07 then again westmeath had something that resembled a full back line and goalie

to anybody else out there who isnt wired to a mars bar, i thought he should have been moved out to try and bring him into the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 20, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
Bushwacker get real, are you telling me the best 15 hurlers in Antrim are all from Loughgiel? You wouldn't take Mc Manus, Graffin, Hippy, Shane Mc Naughton, Karl Stewart or Neil Mc Auley?

Really embarrassing here from this guy.

Quote from: Move er on on May 20, 2012, 09:19:27 PM
Big score today milltown. You couldn't of been too short! Favourites for div1 next year?

Not too bad considering we were 'resting :o)' 8/9 players that played against Cushendall last year.  Lamhs missing a pile also so I glad we are still top/ Glenariffe knocked up a big score at Gorts today so they are well in contention for the league. Nothing won in May. Besides with football commitments and resting players all the time we will just give Cushendall a rattle in the Championship and see how we do.

Glenariffe entertain Rossa next week so will be a harder game, though Rossa not brilliant (like ourselves) at traveling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2012, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
yes milltown,the team that won on Paddy's day,playing like they did,would have beaten Westmeath. They could have done no worse than yesterday's outfit,maybe we need a few more Div 2,3 and 4 players, with their vast experience of Antrim club hurling at it's highest level.

jesus man are u for real, well you had your most prolific player was there and he didnt score 3.07 then again westmeath had something that resembled a full back line and goalie

to anybody else out there who isnt wired to a mars bar, i thought he should have been moved out to try and bring him into the game.

Watson for most parts in the final played at FF for Loughgiel. What did Watson score yesterday? Did Eddie score any?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2012, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
yes milltown,the team that won on Paddy's day,playing like they did,would have beaten Westmeath. They could have done no worse than yesterday's outfit,maybe we need a few more Div 2,3 and 4 players, with their vast experience of Antrim club hurling at it's highest level.

jesus man are u for real, well you had your most prolific player was there and he didnt score 3.07 then again westmeath had something that resembled a full back line and goalie

to anybody else out there who isnt wired to a mars bar, i thought he should have been moved out to try and bring him into the game.

Watson for most parts in the final played at FF for Loughgiel. What did Watson score yesterday? Did Eddie score any?

i think watson got 4 but eddy didnt score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Buswhacker sure Neil McManus or Shane McNaughton wouldn't even get on that loughgiel team ::)

MR you're giving alex ferguson a run for his money with these mind games here ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
I repeat,Loughgiel could have done no worse than that lot yesterday,and you know it. I'm entitled to my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 09:54:34 PM
aye but ........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 10:00:41 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 09:54:34 PM
aye but ........

aye but what??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on May 20, 2012, 10:15:03 PM
Course everyone cares about their club. Just feel its irrelevant today after yesterday's debacle.

We should never be beaten by Westmeath. Must be v little spirit in our team to be beaten by them



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 09:51:35 PM
I repeat,Loughgiel could have done no worse than that lot yesterday,and you know it. I'm entitled to my opinion.

Yes could have got bate also, You are entitled to your own opinion. On this occasion I can safely say your full of shite :o

My opinion of course 8)

Tommy, bitta crack but I'd be nowhere near in the same league as Brokencrossbar1!! He is wild
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 10:32:17 PM
Tommy, bitta crack but I'd be nowhere near in the same league as Brokencrossbar1!! He is wild

Ha, provides some entertainment anyway MR.  You'd best start training now ;)

Buswhacker you're right you are firmly entitled to your opinion. My opinion, which I am also entitled to, is that your opinions are usually ill formed and a load of rubbish  :D

Still can't believe that fecking result  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 11:05:46 PM
MR....... you've be filling this forum with shite for years so no better man to recognise it. You pontificate about every subject under the Sun with your patronising attitude.You're so far up you're own behind you don't even know when someone is stirring it.
Get a life Mr. Know All.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 20, 2012, 11:06:53 PM
Watched the highlights on Sunday game. Dues to wm- young hungry team. Hunger and nothing to fear looked like it brought them over the line. Antrim seemed flat and caught on the hop. Wm done to Antrim what antrim would have been hoping to do to one of the top six.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
That's got the hardliners going!

" Inter club bullshit".....listen to who's talking .

Paranoid..moi ????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on May 20, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
Surprised the town only beat by 3 especially with the injuries they have at the minute - if they can get all players fit for championship they will be hard to beat - hear ryan mcgarry is coming back to do nets too.

not an awful lot of surprise results this weekend at club level - ourselves beating sarsfields by so much was surprising given the start that they have made this year.

What is happening with gorts this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 11:18:45 PM
Hardstation....I would think you know more about stoning buses than me.....am I right or am I right ?


Could be wrong ...you probably never stoned a bus in you're life !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2012, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 11:18:45 PM
Hardstation....I would think you know more about stoning buses than me.....am I right or am I right ?

No, you are full of shite, not just my opinion by the way :D

ya'll be jumping the wire next ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 20, 2012, 11:55:24 PM
Wired up are yez??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2012, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: faughs on May 20, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
Surprised the town only beat by 3 especially with the injuries they have at the minute - if they can get all players fit for championship they will be hard to beat - hear ryan mcgarry is coming back to do nets too.

not an awful lot of surprise results this weekend at club level - ourselves beating sarsfields by so much was surprising given the start that they have made this year.

What is happening with gorts this year?
Hippy was back today, came on as a sub with 20 to go so dont think they were missing that many. Think Cushendall were missing a few.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on May 21, 2012, 12:20:47 AM
This thread is some craic   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we arent in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 21, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
We're at the same place we've always been, always threatening to do better. We get one or two good results and then collapse back in to mediocrity.We just don't have the pool of players or backup to do better.It would make no difference who the manager was, Cody would get the same results. Every 50 years or so a good pool of players comes along and we do well for a couple of years,but there is no steady flow of talent like the major hurling counties have. And where are the supporters, with some exceptions they only show when we're winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
Shambles on Saturday, complete and utter shambles. These lads just arent good enough. Loughgeil showed he way in March but theses boys have got us right back to square one! I didnt even know half the boys starting on that team on Saturday and that really tells the story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 21, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
Where to start........

First half while not great wasn't all bad. Couple of nice scores taken. Couple of players seemed to be struggling with the pace of the game.

Second half was just awful. To be slightly fair to the players they were trying to carry out the tactic that the manager wanted them to work on. We just sat back and waited for Westmeath to come at us. I hate seeing a spare man used so defensively. Should have used the spare man around the middle where we were really struggling to get a hold of the ball.

Shane really struggled after getting that hit in the first half and wasn't the same. Neil McA and Eddie looked as if they were struggling with fitness. Ball going into Watson was put way out to the corner and by the time he got it, there was little he could do. I thought Darren Hamill was harshly taken off, and was streets ahead of the whole half forward who were all brutal. Neil McM was good in the first half but was trying to overplay in the second. Even DD didn't look comfortable, I have never seen him blocking down so many high balls. Subs should have been made earlier.

As regards to the fight with Watson and not backing him up. It was completely off the ball and not many would have seen it. Deliberate tactic by WM. As soon as it was noticed Hippy, Shane and McFall were straight onto the scene as proven by RTE last night. Sambo entered the ptich to assist Watson with a bit of a tussle late in the second half so some boys are full of shit. I thought some of the WM players, officials and some supporters in the stands were animals

Our game last night v Ballycastle was a real good game. Some good scores. Ballycastle were very direct in getting the ball into their FF line. We struggled first 10 minutes or so but got to grips shortly after. Conor Carson has been excellent in the last few games for us and game Pinky a torrid time, hitting about 3/4 points. With Hippy back for the next game I would say Carson should be moved up. If JW took the opinions of Colly McFall senior and Sambo seriously he would have been told how good CC was last night and in recent games at wing forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:11:16 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 21, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
We're at the same place we've always been, always threatening to do better. We get one or two good results and then collapse back in to mediocrity.We just don't have the pool of players or backup to do better.It would make no difference who the manager was, Cody would get the same results. Every 50 years or so a good pool of players comes along and we do well for a couple of years,but there is no steady flow of talent like the major hurling counties have. And where are the supporters, with some exceptions they only show when we're winning.

I think it would. I think the current management and certain players are just simply out of their depth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 21, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
Where to start........

First half while not great wasn't all bad. Couple of nice scores taken. Couple of players seemed to be struggling with the pace of the game.

Second half was just awful. To be slightly fair to the players they were trying to carry out the tactic that the manager wanted them to work on. We just sat back and waited for Westmeath to come at us. I hate seeing a spare man used so defensively. Should have used the spare man around the middle where we were really struggling to get a hold of the ball.

Shane really struggled after getting that hit in the first half and wasn't the same. Neil McA and Eddie looked as if they were struggling with fitness. Ball going into Watson was put way out to the corner and by the time he got it, there was little he could do. I thought Darren Hamill was harshly taken off, and was streets ahead of the whole half forward who were all brutal. Neil McM was good in the first half but was trying to overplay in the second. Even DD didn't look comfortable, I have never seen him blocking down so many high balls. Subs should have been made earlier.

As regards to the fight with Watson and not backing him up. It was completely off the ball and not many would have seen it. Deliberate tactic by WM. As soon as it was noticed Hippy, Shane and McFall were straight onto the scene as proven by RTE last night. Sambo entered the ptich to assist Watson with a bit of a tussle late in the second half so some boys are full of shit. I thought some of the WM players, officials and some supporters in the stands were animals

Our game last night v Ballycastle was a real good game. Some good scores. Ballycastle were very direct in getting the ball into their FF line. We struggled first 10 minutes or so but got to grips shortly after. Conor Carson has been excellent in the last few games for us and game Pinky a torrid time, hitting about 3/4 points. With Hippy back for the next game I would say Carson should be moved up. If JW took the opinions of Colly McFall senior and Sambo seriously he would have been told how good CC was last night and in recent games at wing forward.

Id have to agree with you there, the few boys that I spoke to told me jerry makes all the calls and listens to nobody. Id put Carson centre forward, seen him once for the club this year and he is in the top three forwards in Antrim without a doubt. He has it all. A half forward line that couldnt score against WM, disgrace!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
Shambles on Saturday, complete and utter shambles. These lads just arent good enough. Loughgeil showed he way in March but theses boys have got us right back to square one! I didnt even know half the boys starting on that team on Saturday and that really tells the story.

Tells the story more about your lack of hurling knowledge and lack of understanding of hurling in the county, so if you want to come on and spout rubbish please do it about something you have a vague knowledge of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
Quote from: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:15:57 AM
Quote from: the colonel on May 21, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
Where to start........

First half while not great wasn't all bad. Couple of nice scores taken. Couple of players seemed to be struggling with the pace of the game.

Second half was just awful. To be slightly fair to the players they were trying to carry out the tactic that the manager wanted them to work on. We just sat back and waited for Westmeath to come at us. I hate seeing a spare man used so defensively. Should have used the spare man around the middle where we were really struggling to get a hold of the ball.

Shane really struggled after getting that hit in the first half and wasn't the same. Neil McA and Eddie looked as if they were struggling with fitness. Ball going into Watson was put way out to the corner and by the time he got it, there was little he could do. I thought Darren Hamill was harshly taken off, and was streets ahead of the whole half forward who were all brutal. Neil McM was good in the first half but was trying to overplay in the second. Even DD didn't look comfortable, I have never seen him blocking down so many high balls. Subs should have been made earlier.

As regards to the fight with Watson and not backing him up. It was completely off the ball and not many would have seen it. Deliberate tactic by WM. As soon as it was noticed Hippy, Shane and McFall were straight onto the scene as proven by RTE last night. Sambo entered the ptich to assist Watson with a bit of a tussle late in the second half so some boys are full of shit. I thought some of the WM players, officials and some supporters in the stands were animals

Our game last night v Ballycastle was a real good game. Some good scores. Ballycastle were very direct in getting the ball into their FF line. We struggled first 10 minutes or so but got to grips shortly after. Conor Carson has been excellent in the last few games for us and game Pinky a torrid time, hitting about 3/4 points. With Hippy back for the next game I would say Carson should be moved up. If JW took the opinions of Colly McFall senior and Sambo seriously he would have been told how good CC was last night and in recent games at wing forward.

Id have to agree with you there, the few boys that I spoke to told me jerry makes all the calls and listens to nobody. Id put Carson centre forward, seen him once for the club this year and he is in the top three forwards in Antrim without a doubt. He has it all. A half forward line that couldnt score against WM, disgrace!!

For real?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

This same Westmeath team made hard work of beating a poor enough Down team in the National League.

No doubt they'd lift their game when a Div1 team came to town and they've always been very physical, so that shouldn't have shocked anyone.
No matter what tactics you want to play, you need to have an aggression and urgency in your hurling, by the sounds of it here, Antrim lacked that. Maybe too many either side of the white line thought they were out for a nice wee stroll.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
Shambles on Saturday, complete and utter shambles. These lads just arent good enough. Loughgeil showed he way in March but theses boys have got us right back to square one! I didnt even know half the boys starting on that team on Saturday and that really tells the story.

Tells the story more about your lack of hurling knowledge and lack of understanding of hurling in the county, so if you want to come on and spout rubbish please do it about something you have a vague knowledge of.

Shut your mouth NAG1 I am entitled to my own opinion. Just like you are. I have more Hurling knowledge in my little finger that you have!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
You are entitled to your own opinion of course but you cant come on mouthing about the team and how poor they are and then by your own admission claim that you dont know half of them, so you are in no position to comment on them either way.

You think they are training 4-5 times a week for people like you to come on a slabber about them when you dont even know anything about them?







Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

This same Westmeath team made hard work of beating a poor enough Down team in the National League.

No doubt they'd lift their game when a Div1 team came to town  and they've always been very physical, so that shouldn't have shocked anyone.
No matter what tactics you want to play, you need to have an aggression and urgency in your hurling, by the sounds of it here, Antrim lacked that. Maybe too many either side of the white line thought they were out for a nice wee stroll.


Where was the division 1 team?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

This same Westmeath team made hard work of beating a poor enough Down team in the National League.

No doubt they'd lift their game when a Div1 team came to town  and they've always been very physical, so that shouldn't have shocked anyone.
No matter what tactics you want to play, you need to have an aggression and urgency in your hurling, by the sounds of it here, Antrim lacked that. Maybe too many either side of the white line thought they were out for a nice wee stroll.


Where was the division 1 team?!

Division 1 B then ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

This same Westmeath team made hard work of beating a poor enough Down team in the National League.

No doubt they'd lift their game when a Div1 team came to town  and they've always been very physical, so that shouldn't have shocked anyone.
No matter what tactics you want to play, you need to have an aggression and urgency in your hurling, by the sounds of it here, Antrim lacked that. Maybe too many either side of the white line thought they were out for a nice wee stroll.


Where was the division 1 team?!

Who licked the cream off your bun?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 21, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
My take on the game was that the team played like a bunch of lads who had only been brought together recently for the first time - not a county team training since Jan.  To me personally on Saturday I thought Shane and Neil McM were trying to take the game to WM all by themselves at the cost of bringing other players into it.  They were reluctant to pass the ball when in possession and more times than not were closed down by a hungrier WM.  I know how good both these lads are, but just think on this occasion a bit more thought was needed.  Add in a touch of complacency amongst the rest and there was no surprise WM came back to sneak a result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 21, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

This same Westmeath team made hard work of beating a poor enough Down team in the National League.

No doubt they'd lift their game when a Div1 team came to town  and they've always been very physical, so that shouldn't have shocked anyone.
No matter what tactics you want to play, you need to have an aggression and urgency in your hurling, by the sounds of it here, Antrim lacked that. Maybe too many either side of the white line thought they were out for a nice wee stroll.


Where was the division 1 team?!

Who licked the cream off your bun?

The point I am making is as much about the quality of the team as much as their league - apolgies if thats pedantic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
Look regardless of internal discontent and poor turn outs the team playing on Saturday should have beaten a poor enough WM team. As Johnney said, they struggled to beat a poor Down team in the league.

Some posters want a elite County team with players from the Div 1 league, with 3 teams from Down in that league it really leaves the county management with a small pool to pick from. Add in players who can't committ and your average club hurler and players who are too old then JW has no choice other than to pick players from the lower divisions. The main baulk of these lesser known players have played county juvenile right through to under 21 and this is the next step.

If JW took advice from Sambo and McFaul would it really have made much of a difference? Games ebb and flow, both teams usually have a dominant period in the game and if they are allowed get a high score up it really is hard to stop the team with momentum, It seems (I wasn't there, listened on radio) that is what happened on Saturday, we couldn't/wouldn't? lift our game and the options on the bench weren't great.

Which begs the question, do the players really enjoy playing county hurling or are the demands too much for them? With Loughgiel winning the All Ireland it's having a negative affect on the county. Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel are I'm sure thinking about Tom Moore and they might have a shot at winning it this year. Clubs want their players flat out also. Really hard on the better players now I feel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
Look regardless of internal discontent and poor turn outs the team playing on Saturday should have beaten a poor enough WM team. As Johnney said, they struggled to beat a poor Down team in the league.

Some posters want a elite County team with players from the Div 1 league, with 3 teams from Down in that league it really leaves the county management with a small pool to pick from. Add in players who can't committ and your average club hurler and players who are too old then JW has no choice other than to pick players from the lower divisions. The main baulk of these lesser known players have played county juvenile right through to under 21 and this is the next step.

If JW took advice from Sambo and McFaul would it really have made much of a difference? Games ebb and flow, both teams usually have a dominant period in the game and if they are allowed get a high score up it really is hard to stop the team with momentum, It seems (I wasn't there, listened on radio) that is what happened on Saturday, we couldn't/wouldn't? lift our game and the options on the bench weren't great.

Which begs the question, do the players really enjoy playing county hurling or are the demands too much for them? With Loughgiel winning the All Ireland it's having a negative affect on the county. Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel are I'm sure thinking about Tom Moore and they might have a shot at winning it this year. Clubs want their players flat out also. Really hard on the better players now I feel

Not sure about this part of your post MR2.
1) Clubs from other counties winning Tommy Moore has not really harmed them? It wasnt that long ago we were commenting that Loughiels success would lift the county?
2) In reality the detrimental effect has been caused by personalities - not by the Tom Moore success. Whether its Shamrocks with attitude, ot other clubs with jealousy (maybe thats what you mean)
3)But I dont think its because of pressure on club players to win Tommy Moore to follow Loughiel - thats a long way off and a different matter altogether at this stage. County players all over Ireland are not sitting back for their club.

I do agree with your point people are making with regard to the number of players from lower divisions.
1) The five Div1 teams cannot make up the whole county squad alone.
2) First teamers from Loughiel/Cushendall are not goin to sit with No28 in an Antrim squad so they drop off.
3) This leaves the position needing filled to complete a training panel - hence the need to drop down divisions.
4) Obviously some players from lower divisions make first 15 (Karl is div2 yet one of the best in Ulster)
5) The need for lower division players is therefore both ability and necessity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 21, 2012, 12:31:36 PM
When Loughgiel won the All Ireland in 1983 it had a positive affect on the county team and the game here in general.
This culminated in Antrim reaching an All Ireland final in 1989 under the leadership of Jim Nelson.
What's so different this time ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2012, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 12:02:31 PM
Look regardless of internal discontent and poor turn outs the team playing on Saturday should have beaten a poor enough WM team. As Johnney said, they struggled to beat a poor Down team in the league.

Some posters want a elite County team with players from the Div 1 league, with 3 teams from Down in that league it really leaves the county management with a small pool to pick from. Add in players who can't committ and your average club hurler and players who are too old then JW has no choice other than to pick players from the lower divisions. The main baulk of these lesser known players have played county juvenile right through to under 21 and this is the next step.

If JW took advice from Sambo and McFaul would it really have made much of a difference? Games ebb and flow, both teams usually have a dominant period in the game and if they are allowed get a high score up it really is hard to stop the team with momentum, It seems (I wasn't there, listened on radio) that is what happened on Saturday, we couldn't/wouldn't? lift our game and the options on the bench weren't great.

Which begs the question, do the players really enjoy playing county hurling or are the demands too much for them? With Loughgiel winning the All Ireland it's having a negative affect on the county. Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel are I'm sure thinking about Tom Moore and they might have a shot at winning it this year. Clubs want their players flat out also. Really hard on the better players now I feel

Not sure about this part of your post MR2.
1) Clubs from other counties winning Tommy Moore has not really harmed them? It wasnt that long ago we were commenting that Loughiels success would lift the county?
2) In reality the detrimental effect has been caused by personalities - not by the Tom Moore success. Whether its Shamrocks with attitude, ot other clubs with jealousy (maybe thats what you mean)
3)But I dont think its because of pressure on club players to win Tommy Moore to follow Loughiel - thats a long way off and a different matter altogether at this stage. County players all over Ireland are not sitting back for their club.

I do agree with your point people are making with regard to the number of players from lower divisions.
1) The five Div1 teams cannot make up the whole county squad alone.
2) First teamers from Loughiel/Cushendall are not goin to sit with No28 in an Antrim squad so they drop off.
3) This leaves the position needing filled to complete a training panel - hence the need to drop down divisions.
4) Obviously some players from lower divisions make first 15 (Karl is div2 yet one of the best in Ulster)
5) The need for lower division players is therefore both ability and necessity

Yes we thought it would have a positive effect on the county hurling, but the reality is, it hasn't been. We haven't had a bunch of lads like we did when Jim Nelson took the team who seemed (at the time) played with passion and pride in the jersey. They also played (which i believed at the time) with unity, whatever problems players had with each other seemed to be left at the door and wasn't noticeable when they played together.

Maybe someone can tell me different, seeing as I'm only a young buck ;)

83 was 6 years later from 89 Bushwhacker, maybe in 6 years time we will compete at that level again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 21, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 21, 2012, 12:31:36 PM
When Loughgiel won the All Ireland in 1983 it had a positive affect on the county team and the game here in general.
This culminated in Antrim reaching an All Ireland final in 1989 under the leadership of Jim Nelson.
What's so different this time ?
We had far stronger club hurling just prior to Loughgiel win & obviously after it as well. There were more teams contesting for the Championship. The leagues & Feis were fiercely played for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 01:03:18 PM
Three 4 or 5 times a week, you wouldnt know it there on Sat. Pure crap they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 01:03:18 PM
Three 4 or 5 times a week, you wouldnt know it there on Sat. Pure crap they are.

Am sure they will be glad of your extensive input!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Yeah because your input has been great. Sometimes the truth hurts. Now I want those boys to do well this summer but the way things are going that isnt going to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 21, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Yeah because your input has been great. Sometimes the truth hurts. Now I want those boys to do well this summer but the way things are going that isnt going to happen.

Funny way of showing it coming on lambasting them, then admitting that you dont even know half the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Anyone got the article from Gaelic Life that talked about the difficulties of dual/college/working minors that are out 7 nights a week? Think Sambo had some input on it. think you need to be subscribed to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 21, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

Think we got the answer to this on saturday evening. Wallis hadnt a clue what to do. When he was appointed I was very hopeful of Antrim finally getting the right man, a man that players apparently thought very highly off. But his transition from coach to manager unfortunately hasnt worked out for him. There is fair bit of difference in the two roles. I give him to the end of the year and he'll be gone.

Antrim are by far more superior than WM. Fact. The players were brain washed into playing a gameplan that simply wasnt neccessary for WM. The result of this brainwash resulted in players being unable to express themselves as hurlers. Every ball that antrim won in the middle sector had to go into the corner, its as if they were told no shots unless within 30 yards of goal.
This resulted in repeated breakdowns of play and over passing the ball. For a wile I thought it was arsenal I was watching.

I hate to say it but I think we'll not have many more games to attend after the first qualifier if this continues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2012, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on May 21, 2012, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2012, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
Poor poor result at the weekend, where do they go from here?

Lets be realistic we aren't in a position to think that we can just go to the likes of WM and take a handy win away. Their result against Galway last year should have alarm bells ringing but obviously not loud enough.

Jesus lads better not get to complacent here, these boys ran galway close last year, i know we tanked them at casement but they could be a different animal at home

I posted this last Thursday when most on here was saying we will win this pulling up. In hindsight this was always on the cards as a possible. we had selectors walking,bad turn outs in training and the manager storming of home from training. in the league this year v Clare,offaly and limerick we averaged 12 points per game and that's what scored again. we are 4 to 5 players short of a decent team mostly in the forwards. where to go from here, we just keep plugging away. Tomorrow night at training is going to be the most important session of the year, if the players all turn up have a chat and collectively take a good hard look at themselves and regroup for qualifiers. If there is anything in them you like to think they are a wounded animal at the minute. As for Jerry Wallis well the jury is out at the moment the players had to get him but now there not responding to him. He id maybe a good coach but management is a different kettle all together

Think we got the answer to this on saturday evening. Wallis hadnt a clue what to do. When he was appointed I was very hopeful of Antrim finally getting the right man, a man that players apparently thought very highly off. But his transition from coach to manager unfortunately hasn't worked out for him. There is fair bit of difference in the two roles. I give him to the end of the year and he'll be gone.

Antrim are by far more superior than WM. Fact. The players were brain washed into playing a gameplan that simply wasn't necessary for WM. The result of this brainwash resulted in players being unable to express themselves as hurlers. Every ball that antrim won in the middle sector had to go into the corner, its as if they were told no shots unless within 30 yards of goal.
This resulted in repeated breakdowns of play and over passing the ball. For a wile I thought it was arsenal I was watching.

I hate to say it but I think we'll not have many more games to attend after the first qualifier if this continues.

Had Antrim been doing this in their last few games? Has this tactic worked when it mattered? All well and good trying this stuff in training games but actually doing it first time in Championship is a different thing altogether.

The few games I went to at Casement this year I thought that the team was playing as individuals and not playing as a unit. This can happen when up against the superior teams, less time on ball, chasing the game and being put under pressure can sometimes resort a team into playing like this.

Having not watched the WM game I can't say that was the same thing on Saturday. Though from the posts on here it seems as if this was the case (not playing as a unit that is).

When playing with the wind ya gotta get a big enough score up before halftime, Neil McManus on the end of the square can win his own ball and get goals and he's not afraid to go get them. with Watson and Shane running around to pick up break ball or win their own we could have knocked up a big score. Over cooking passes allow the other to get back and get tackles and hooks in. Sometimes direct hurling gets the bigger scores, not for the purists but results sometimes are all that matters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on May 21, 2012, 07:14:06 PM
Difference between the 83/89 sides and now was that there were far more teams capable of competing for the Championship in 83.  You had Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycastle, Rossa, Mitchells, Sarsfields all pushing hard, whereas now we only really have Loughgiel and Cushendall (Dunloy have slipped back and St Galls have pushed for two years and have almost caught the big boys napping.) 


In regards to Carson on the county squad, I think he deserves his shot.  If Jerry wants to play nice neat passing games, he's going to need a player to get the ball first to start it off and I think Carson has got (at least) this ability in his game.  He took his 3/4 points well v Ballycastle on Sunday by finding loads of space out on his wing.  Why can we not find a decent county standard half forward anymore???

A little note on the Cushendall v Ballycastle game:  Thought Brendan McSparran refereed it very well.  Kept up with the game, let the play flow, tried to play advantage and brought the free back when necessary.  Despite a couple of slaps off the ball, he dealt with them accordingly and got on with the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on May 21, 2012, 08:37:08 PM
http://sport.irishexaminer.com/post/2012/05/21/Antrim-perspective-needed-on-Westmeath-loss.aspx
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2012, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: gelvis on May 21, 2012, 07:14:06 PM
Difference between the 83/89 sides and now was that there were far more teams capable of competing for the Championship in 83.  You had Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycastle, Rossa, Mitchells, Sarsfields all pushing hard, whereas now we only really have Loughgiel and Cushendall (Dunloy have slipped back and St Galls have pushed for two years and have almost caught the big boys napping.) 


In regards to Carson on the county squad, I think he deserves his shot.  If Jerry wants to play nice neat passing games, he's going to need a player to get the ball first to start it off and I think Carson has got (at least) this ability in his game.  He took his 3/4 points well v Ballycastle on Sunday by finding loads of space out on his wing.  Why can we not find a decent county standard half forward anymore???

A little note on the Cushendall v Ballycastle game:  Thought Brendan McSparran refereed it very well.  Kept up with the game, let the play flow, tried to play advantage and brought the free back when necessary.  Despite a couple of slaps off the ball, he dealt with them accordingly and got on with the game.

The pace of the game, the physicality of the game and the commitment required to compete at the top level has increased dramatically since 89 odd though so I'm not sure it's a like for like comparison.

The biggest thing you would have hoped for from Loughgiel winning the AI club would have been that it would give the players the belief to push on and compete with teams who we weren't competing with before. That, however, would have no bearing on a westmeath game.

The fact remains that the westmeath team we played last year were beaten with ease - it wasn't like it was a tight game as they were in a different class. You can say this, that and the other about what players should be picked but at the end of the day it's very similar playing personnel to last year give or take a few - that is the biggest worry about this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 21, 2012, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 21, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
Where to start........

First half while not great wasn't all bad. Couple of nice scores taken. Couple of players seemed to be struggling with the pace of the game.

Second half was just awful. To be slightly fair to the players they were trying to carry out the tactic that the manager wanted them to work on. We just sat back and waited for Westmeath to come at us. I hate seeing a spare man used so defensively. Should have used the spare man around the middle where we were really struggling to get a hold of the ball.

Shane really struggled after getting that hit in the first half and wasn't the same. Neil McA and Eddie looked as if they were struggling with fitness. Ball going into Watson was put way out to the corner and by the time he got it, there was little he could do. I thought Darren Hamill was harshly taken off, and was streets ahead of the whole half forward who were all brutal. Neil McM was good in the first half but was trying to overplay in the second. Even DD didn't look comfortable, I have never seen him blocking down so many high balls. Subs should have been made earlier.

As regards to the fight with Watson and not backing him up. It was completely off the ball and not many would have seen it. Deliberate tactic by WM. As soon as it was noticed Hippy, Shane and McFall were straight onto the scene as proven by RTE last night. Sambo entered the ptich to assist Watson with a bit of a tussle late in the second half so some boys are full of shit. I thought some of the WM players, officials and some supporters in the stands were animals

Our game last night v Ballycastle was a real good game. Some good scores. Ballycastle were very direct in getting the ball into their FF line. We struggled first 10 minutes or so but got to grips shortly after. Conor Carson has been excellent in the last few games for us and game Pinky a torrid time, hitting about 3/4 points. With Hippy back for the next game I would say Carson should be moved up. If JW took the opinions of Colly McFall senior and Sambo seriously he would have been told how good CC was last night and in recent games at wing forward.

I seen the clip on The Sunday Game too and i can see why your saying what your saying. However it didnt show the whole clip and at the game i seen it developing from the Wm manager telling one player to get stuck in to Liam Watson and i thought the Antrim team were slow to respond as it developed.

Totally agree with you about the locals in the stand they were a coarse lot but they took their lead from their manager who did a lot of ranting and raving. In saying that in the 2nd half when they got going they hurled well and they will only get better. Their minors ran Kilkenny to 2 points in the Leinster championship last year but then still got through the back door to the semi final where a late Dublin goal meant a 6 point loss for Wm. Antrim arent competing like that in the minor championship and so could find it more and more diffficult to beat Westmeath in the next few years.

Its all fine and well to have a game plan and you could see Antrim were trying to play to one but when the game is sliping away you surely have to do something to get over the line rather than stick to the gameplan? There didnt seem to be any urgency or realisation that they were going to get caught on Saturday which i was disappointed and bemused about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
Gameplans take years to ingrain into a team, not weeks or even months and the first sign of a team coming under serious pressure will tell you how far a gameplan has evolved as most hurlers will revert to instinct, what they've been relying on since they were U-14's, minor etc. It's human nature. If the Antrim team did stick to the gameplan and it didn't work then there'll be major doubts in the players minds about that gameplan and that's never good!

That's always been the worry for me about outside managers, they've tried something with a certain team and it maybe was pretty successful, Wallace may have been part of the Cork set ups when their running/ handpassing game was going well, but that was then with a Newtownshandrum team who'd been playing it for years and natural athletes such as Tom Kenny, Sean O'g and so on to supplement them.

You can't just take that model and impose it on a new group of lads who've never played anything like it before and expect it to work within months.

IMO Antrim have barring the Jim Nelson and Dinny Cahill era's played a very individualistic type game, relying on individuals ability to get them over the line. That'll work against Down, Derry and the likes of Laois, Westmeath, Carlow more often than not, but it won't work beyond that.
What Cahill was good at (as I've been on the receiving end) was setting his teams up to get the best out of them, he worked with what he had, knew their strengths and weaknesses and set them up accordingly and to my mind thats what a good manager should be doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 22, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
have to agree with Johneycool

Wallace and the Cork running game, can hardly think of a worse tatic for Antrim hurling.  we must keep it as simplistic as possible, due to the fact we simply have not got the personnel.

was at the game on saturday.  Watson was starved of possession to a degree, but it wasn't as if goals beat us.  Playing the spare man in front of carson was almost more of a hindrance to us.  Carson was reasonable by the way, certainly not the worst.  Some forwards simply not up to it, one in  particular was shocking with his shooting and wide count.  Finally taken off, The saffrons need to move quick ball in as fast as possible, short passing and possession no chance.

Like i say Jerry needs to get the finger out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
Yes I agree - it's very much a case of looking at the best players at your disposal and then deciding on the gameplan / tactics.
The old saying you have to cut your cloth accordingly etc.

If Wallace thought he could bring in the Cork mantra in Antrim it is not the case.

I think we're all agreed that the return of the Shamrocks was detrimental - again whether that may be becasue of their attitude or others
jealousy is irrelevant - it's up to Wallace to manage this!

Perhaps two major failings which as someone else suggested - the difference between a coach and a manager?

That said, I have just fallen into the trap which i hate - blaming management!
For me when any team loses they have got to look at themselves first. From what I can gather this team have let the everyone down both on and off the pitch.

I read the article from the Examiner blog also - fair points.
If this is true then maybe we (myself included) have got to accept this as our level. We would have to accept that Westmeath / Carlow / Laois is our level?

Time will tell I suppose!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2012, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
I think we're all agreed that the return of the Shamrocks was detrimental

I don't think this at all. I'm not quite sure I understand why other people do either. What backs this theory up - because it is believed that people didn't run in quick enough to defend Liam Watson in a schemuzzle?

We beat Wexford and struggled to a win against Laois in the league prior to Loughgiel boys being there - it wasn't like we had great form previous to them coming in.

We haven't been great this year at all - with or without Loughgiel players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:59:05 AM
I am definitely not referring to people defending (or not) Watson - not particulalry the results which I agree where never great.

But several posters here (including myself) have spoken to county panel members and the feedback has been that there was some friction when the Loughiel boys returned. Again, I am not putting blame on either side here but the fact seems to be that morale and cohesion suffered.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 22, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
Is this not the exact type of thing that a manager is there for, to create a sense of team unity and purpose and to foster togetherness in pursuit of a common goal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 22, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Well if the manager doesn't come into the changing room after the match that doesn't help things..big training session tonight. Interesting what the players reaction is. They need to take a look at themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
Yes I agree - it's very much a case of looking at the best players at your disposal and then deciding on the gameplan / tactics.
The old saying you have to cut your cloth accordingly etc.

If Wallace thought he could bring in the Cork mantra in Antrim it is not the case.

I think we're all agreed that the return of the Shamrocks was detrimental - again whether that may be becasue of their attitude or others jealousy is irrelevant - it's up to Wallace to manage this!Perhaps two major failings which as someone else suggested - the difference between a coach and a manager?

That said, I have just fallen into the trap which i hate - blaming management!
For me when any team loses they have got to look at themselves first. From what I can gather this team have let the everyone down both on and off the pitch.

I read the article from the Examiner blog also - fair points.
If this is true then maybe we (myself included) have got to accept this as our level. We would have to accept that Westmeath / Carlow / Laois is our level?

Time will tell I suppose!

Manager's Role? Yes NAG thats the point I made.

But I also agree with 2Hands FFS - players need to look at themselves also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 22, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
Dont get me wrong if the players dont perform then that's their responsibility but its up to the manager to create and atmosphere and feeling around the squad to make them want to perform and make them want to play well for each other etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2012, 12:30:32 PM
At the same time players need to leave their personal and club baggage at the gate when they pull on the county jersey. If a player can't do that then you're better off without them for the betterment of the squad.

In a group of 30 odd lads there'll always be a few takers, i.e. negative buggers who do nothing but whine, this isn't good enough, this is shite etc. They need kept to a minimum IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 22, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Id say there will be some dust ups at training this week between players and management! Is your boy Wallace still in charge?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 22, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 22, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
Id say there will be some dust ups at training this week between players and management! Is your boy Wallace still in charge?

Amazing  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 07:50:39 PM
Hardstation I see on the Antrim website your boys would be needing a private jet to put in the miles this Sunday!
I think naomh gall are disappointed there goes any chance of upset MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2012, 09:18:05 PM
We can only worry about Sarsfields on Sunday, we also need a jet. Glenariffe hard to beat at home so would only expect shake up in Belfast. Bit early though for league talks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 22, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 22, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Well if the manager doesn't come into the changing room after the match that doesn't help things..big training session tonight. Interesting what the players reaction is. They need to take a look at themselves.

It is not the sign of a good leader/manager when you cant face your troops after a defeat.  Would love to be a fly on the goal post at tonights county training.

Ps Did anyone read the small section in todays Irish news.  Cant see Hippy being very happy with this...Wallace hung him out to dry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 22, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
reckon if carey were fit to be the paddies then no problem for an under strength st galls who are slight favourites now for league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 22, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on May 22, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 22, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
Well if the manager doesn't come into the changing room after the match that doesn't help things..big training session tonight. Interesting what the players reaction is. They need to take a look at themselves.

It is not the sign of a good leader/manager when you cant face your troops after a defeat.  Would love to be a fly on the goal post at tonights county training.

Ps Did anyone read the small section in todays Irish news.  Cant see Hippy being very happy with this...Wallace hung him out to dry!

missed that one, what was it about ????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
OnTheHill what did Wallace say in the Irish news about hippy?

I mean his hurling is on a par with the top counties and hd is genuinely injured!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 22, 2012, 10:41:05 PM
5 games in and already talking about league winners. Catch yerselves on. Load of hard games still to come for all teams and every team has a slip up at some stage. When teams take "lesser" teams lightly that's when leagues are won and lost so long way to go. Paddies will relish this match on sunday. What's story with rossa and private jets?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 22, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
reckon if carey were fit to be the paddies then no problem for an under strength st galls who are slight favourites now for league

No problem then, we'll beat them by 20.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
Just saying Rossa would need a jet to get from clones to waterfoot - young armstrong playing and the hardy Rossa support! I agree early yet with leagues but hard to see anything outside of galls or Glenarrife. Carey seem to have improved? With sarsfields emergence it is a great league. Gort or Randalstown in relegation dog fight - Ooops! Sorry! I know I know too early but only fun guessing & predicting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
Just saying Rossa would need a jet to get from clones to waterfoot - young armstrong playing and the hardy Rossa support! I agree early yet with leagues but hard to see anything outside of galls or Glenarrife. Carey seem to have improved? With sarsfields emergence it is a great league. Gort or Randalstown in relegation dog fight - Ooops! Sorry! I know I know too early but only fun guessing & predicting!

Tightest league for years, Ballycastle were too strong last year. This year the teams have given up strange results, Lamhs drawing in Waterfoot, Carey having a shit start and then winning games handy, Gorts falling apart and Tir Na Og a shadow of the team they used to be. Rossa have hit a bitta form and should decide who wins the league. That's it in a nutshell.

I expect the odd slip up along the way. If we are lucky enough to be close at the end of the season then grand. Reality is this though, you are judged on the Championship, and we would like to put in a similar performance against Cushendall this year. McManus never played last year against us and that was a major factor, add in the fact that we were an unknown last year, and we won't be able to have the start we got against them this time.

Sure we'll give it a lash though and will be training hard for that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 11:16:16 PM
Good points mr2 although I doubt Rossa credentials - they have merely beaten the 2 weakest teams and are still fielding "weakened" line ups. I don't see them taking points in milltown or waterfoot. Lambs Rossa battling for 3rd with Carey and definitely sarsfields hoping to upset them.

More importantly do u not think promotion to div1 would be a better basis for the galls to develop than a championship shock / effort? Long term I think div1 would yield greater championship dividends?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2012, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 11:16:16 PM
Good points mr2 although I doubt Rossa credentials - they have merely beaten the 2 weakest teams and are still fielding "weakened" line ups. I don't see them taking points in milltown or waterfoot. Lambs Rossa battling for 3rd with Carey and definitely sarsfields hoping to upset them.

More importantly do u not think promotion to div1 would be a better basis for the galls to develop than a championship shock / effort? Long term I think div1 would yield greater championship dividends?

You'd be mad not to take the div 2 title, as you have said, long term development playing in div 1 can have more beneficial returns, was lucky enough to play in div 1 for years and it was great (bar the odd tanking) but we were always tanked in the Championship, so I can't see it being a automatic thing to win the Championship, Rossa played div 1b when winning their last Championship ;)

Listen considering the teams we have been able to put out (we haven't had a decent team out since Glenariffe) and won our games, then brillo. We won't get anything easy from here on in. If the footballers win on Sunday (oh, i hope they do), that's 2 of our better players tied up for a while. We will just have to play on regardless, as the county fixtures committie don't take into consideration the dual clubs in a dual county!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 11:35:12 PM
Agree 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 12:57:51 AM
Div two is starting to take a bit of shape, Rossa won their last two games, and St Galls are still producing results. Glenarrife will always be up there and have the advantage being a single code club. The winner of the league should come from these three teams. If Rossa win away on Sunday they are right back in contention after their terrible start. However, I feel that it will come down to how these clubs do against the rest of the teams in the division and not the head to head games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 23, 2012, 02:59:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 22, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
Is this not the exact type of thing that a manager is there for, to create a sense of team unity and purpose and to foster togetherness in pursuit of a common goal?
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on May 23, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
OnTheHill what did Wallace say in the Irish news about hippy?

I mean his hurling is on a par with the top counties and hd is genuinely injured!

Basically said that Hippy shouldnt have been on the pitch when the fraca started, that it was a 'players issue' and nothing to do with the management which hippy 'was a part of' for the day.

This statement wont help his case if they try to suspend him.

Hippy played the second half on sunday against cushendall i believe, so he must be near ready to play again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2012, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: Onthehill on May 23, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2012, 10:32:31 PM
OnTheHill what did Wallace say in the Irish news about hippy?

I mean his hurling is on a par with the top counties and hd is genuinely injured!

Basically said that Hippy shouldnt have been on the pitch when the fraca started, that it was a 'players issue' and nothing to do with the management which hippy 'was a part of' for the day.

This statement wont help his case if they try to suspend him.

Hippy played the second half on sunday against cushendall i believe, so he must be near ready to play again.

He is right though as hippys presence could have made it spiral out of control if the Westmeath subs or whatever got involved.

Leave it to the players IMO.

Saying that it was silly of Wallace to say it in the press as no doubt hippy will be visiting Croke park (may be Leinster council??) shortly if the referee has it in his report which he probably will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
Losing hippy is a massive loss surely. Carson seems to be an able replacement at 3. Hippy is our best hurler and i would have liked to have seen him at 6 instead of mcmanus who is struggling at this level. From what ive been told and seen at any home games herron is also out of his depth. A few swiches and I think this team can get going again. Thats my 2 pennys worth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 23, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
Losing hippy is a massive loss surely. Carson seems to be an able replacement at 3. Hippy is our best hurler and i would have liked to have seen him at 6 instead of mcmanus who is struggling at this level. From what ive been told and seen at any home games herron is also out of his depth. A few swiches and I think this team can get going again. Thats my 2 pennys worth.

Dunno bout that - If Neil is out of his depth then we're in trouble - he's one of the best hurlers in the county with Hippy Watson & Karl Stewart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 23, 2012, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
Losing hippy is a massive loss surely. Carson seems to be an able replacement at 3. Hippy is our best hurler and i would have liked to have seen him at 6 instead of mcmanus who is struggling at this level. From what ive been told and seen at any home games herron is also out of his depth. A few swiches and I think this team can get going again. Thats my 2 pennys worth.

What about the rest of them that you havent a clue who they are, what would you do with them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 12:25:04 PM
I think you would be kidding yourself not admit that mcmanus is struggling. What other centre backs in ireland run into dark alleys with the ball? A no.6 is the conductor of play who sits and holds and sets attacks. Not one trys to attack at every opportunity leaving the rest of the defence susceptible scores. Thats why its a pity hippy is out hes the better option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2012, 12:46:28 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 12:25:04 PM
I think you would be kidding yourself not admit that mcmanus is struggling. What other centre backs in ireland run into dark alleys with the ball? A no.6 is the conductor of play who sits and holds and sets attacks. Not one trys to attack at every opportunity leaving the rest of the defence susceptible scores. Thats why its a pity hippy is out hes the better option.

Hippy has got faster of late, but would still think that Neill is a fitter player that Hippy. I hope your right though of Neill and come championship against us he's crap :o. Though I doubt this very much........ unfortunately >:(

I agree sometimes the big players do try it all on their own, being the best player at a club during juvenile means players try to do it all on their own, very hard to break that habit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 23, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
Catch-take four steps-move the ball on.  Simples!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 23, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
Catch-take four steps-move the ball on.  Simples!

Absolutely, our U21s where the prime example of fast moving hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Neil McManus at the moment is still our best option for CHB, but having said that he definitely still requires some one to one coaching in this area. Watching some of the best CHB's at the moment no doubt Neil could emulate them, but he just needs to adopt his game to being slightly more defensive. Hippy should remain at FB when fit and available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Neil McManus at the moment is still our best option for CHB, but having said that he definitely still requires some one to one coaching in this area. Watching some of the best CHB's at the moment no doubt Neil could emulate them, but he just needs to adopt his game to being slightly more defensive. Hippy should remain at FB when fit and available.

correct on all points, mr2 is right to maybe a force of habit form earlier years. we are picking holes in our best player but if hes is winning ball and not putting it in fast and direct maybe he hasn't any confidence in our forwards or maybe hes being a tad greedy. but your observations have some credence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
To be fair to the fella I think he has been polluted by being played in midfield and forwards all the time. It's rare he even plays the position for cushendall.

We have a habit of doing this a la Gary O'Kane. I think he could be as good a CHB as is about if given a consistent period of time to play there as I believe this is his position.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
To be fair to the fella I think he has been polluted by being played in midfield and forwards all the time. It's rare he even plays the position for cushendall.

We have a habit of doing this a la Gary O'Kane. I think he could be as good a CHB as is about if given a consistent period of time to play there as I believe this is his position.
Himself, Scully and James Campbell would be as good a half back line you'd get on the county team. Pity it won't happen though.  :-\
   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 03:44:01 PM
Neil McAuley is possibly the best half back in the county so would be harsh not to have him there but yes would have been good to see Scullion in there. Campbell has a few years ahead of him yet to get in there too but maybe a bit early yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 23, 2012, 03:44:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
To be fair to the fella I think he has been polluted by being played in midfield and forwards all the time. It's rare he even plays the position for cushendall.

We have a habit of doing this a la Gary O'Kane. I think he could be as good a CHB as is about if given a consistent period of time to play there as I believe this is his position.
Himself, Scully and James Campbell would be as good a half back line you'd get on the county team. Pity it won't happen though.  :-\


SIE its getting a bit ridiculous now, MS is well past the level needed for inter county, club hurling is one thing county hurling is another level.

You telling me that either of those two are better than NMcA for one? Time for the red tinted specs to come off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
Have to disagree with you there SIE. Yes in a Loughgiel shirt over the last number of years Martin Scullion has been excellent and one of their most consistent performers, however, what is holding him back from turning out for the county, commitment? If this is the case, then as has been said on here before, he is no use to anyone. As for James Campbell, he's still got youth on his side, but is in no way near the same quality of player as Neil McAuley. Did you mean to say his older brother Johnny?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 23, 2012, 04:34:21 PM
Glenariffe v Rossa postponed on Sunday due to a death in Glenariffe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 23, 2012, 04:46:41 PM
Lads this forum is going completely crazy if we are going to start complaining about Neil Mc Manus's contribution to the team. He has been Antrim's best hurler over the past 5 years or so. I wouldn't like to single players out after such a depressing result but there are only 4 or 5 hurlers on the entire panel who deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Neil Mc Manus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Neil McManus at the moment is still our best option for CHB, but having said that he definitely still requires some one to one coaching in this area. Watching some of the best CHB's at the moment no doubt Neil could emulate them, but he just needs to adopt his game to being slightly more defensive. Hippy should remain at FB when fit and available.

correct on all points, mr2 is right to maybe a force of habit form earlier years. we are picking holes in our best player but if hes is winning ball and not putting it in fast and direct maybe he hasn't any confidence in our forwards or maybe hes being a tad greedy. but your observations have some credence

McManus is far from the best player in the county. Forgot about McAuley, serious hurler, would probably have him in no.6, hippy behind him and id put mattie donnelly in on the wing at no.7 and big Carson at no.5. Thats as good as a half back line you'd find anywhere. Personally id give McManus a rest for a few weeks and try and let him get a bit of form back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
He's one of the best we've ever had in my view never mind one of the best at the minute. He is at times a victim of his own versatility but as good as any around in almost any position.

Carson too slow for no. 5 and McAuley probably too small for 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 23, 2012, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: Yeah on May 23, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Neil McManus at the moment is still our best option for CHB, but having said that he definitely still requires some one to one coaching in this area. Watching some of the best CHB's at the moment no doubt Neil could emulate them, but he just needs to adopt his game to being slightly more defensive. Hippy should remain at FB when fit and available.

correct on all points, mr2 is right to maybe a force of habit form earlier years. we are picking holes in our best player but if hes is winning ball and not putting it in fast and direct maybe he hasn't any confidence in our forwards or maybe hes being a tad greedy. but your observations have some credence

McManus is far from the best player in the county. Forgot about McAuley, serious hurler, would probably have him in no.6, hippy behind him and id put mattie donnelly in on the wing at no.7 and big Carson at no.5. Thats as good as a half back line you'd find anywhere. Personally id give McManus a rest for a few weeks and try and let him get a bit of form back.
He has scored 3-4 & 0-9 in the past few weeks so he is badly out of form :o
You are clueless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2012, 05:41:23 PM
If we dont reply to certain trolls they'll go away. Giving them replies only fuels their shite..............

I'll get me coat  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 23, 2012, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2012, 05:41:23 PM
If we dont reply to certain trolls they'll go away. Giving them replies only fuels their shite..............

I'll get me coat  :o

I was wondering if a boy from "North Antrim" could forget about Neal McAuley and if maybe the same boy wasfrom Loughgeil around about the AI club final or a Bog Ash Caman before that.

Dinnae feed the troll hi!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 07:50:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 23, 2012, 03:44:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 03:35:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
To be fair to the fella I think he has been polluted by being played in midfield and forwards all the time. It's rare he even plays the position for cushendall.

We have a habit of doing this a la Gary O'Kane. I think he could be as good a CHB as is about if given a consistent period of time to play there as I believe this is his position.
Himself, Scully and James Campbell would be as good a half back line you'd get on the county team. Pity it won't happen though.  :-\


SIE its getting a bit ridiculous now, MS is well past the level needed for inter county, club hurling is one thing county hurling is another level.

You telling me that either of those two are better than NMcA for one? Time for the red tinted specs to come off.
its all about opinions. Scully is our hurler of the year, deservedly so. He's been or most consistent player over the last couple of years. Jimmy has been brilliant the past year for us also, probably more consistent than his older brother. But hey, its all hypothetical, Scully couldn't commit this year and Jimmy wasnt selected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 03:48:36 PM
Have to disagree with you there SIE. Yes in a Loughgiel shirt over the last number of years Martin Scullion has been excellent and one of their most consistent performers, however, what is holding him back from turning out for the county, commitment? If this is the case, then as has been said on here before, he is no use to anyone. As for James Campbell, he's still got youth on his side, but is in no way near the same quality of player as Neil McAuley. Did you mean to say his older brother Johnny?
he said he couldn't commit, yes. Better that than saying he could and not turn up for training. Don't you think? No, I meant Jimmy. He was class for us all year. But I'm in the minority about him on here, sure we'll keep him up the road then. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 23, 2012, 08:03:07 PM
I've just been looking through the county antrim post, they'll publish photos of anyone in that paper. :D   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 23, 2012, 10:43:24 PM
Who's the photos of?
Sounds like this county Antrim post is doing great gaa coverage - is it available in the big smoke?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 23, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
I would have Martin Scullion in at centre back without doubt and let McManus move into midfield or wing forward. Neil likes to try and influence the game a bit more than what he can from centre back. Scullion was a rock there for Loughgiel, knows how to play the position well, just a shame he isn't part of the panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 23, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 23, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Neil McManus at the moment is still our best option for CHB, but having said that he definitely still requires some one to one coaching in this area. Watching some of the best CHB's at the moment no doubt Neil could emulate them, but he just needs to adopt his game to being slightly more defensive. Hippy should remain at FB when fit and available.

Totally agree with the rest of the guys who have said Neil McManus is one of the best players Antrim have had over the last 5 years. No doubt about that and long may he continue to show that form.

However there was an excellent example in the 2nd half of the match on Saturday of what City Slicker has described. This was late in the game when Wm were on their charge and McManus got possession in acres of space in the centre half position. He went soloing up the middle and as he came to the first Westmeath player instead of clearing the ball he tried to go around him. He was belted and somehow the ref didnt give a free out, the ball was lost and Wm scored a point. Of course you can blame the ref for it or say he didnt have confidence in the forwards but imo if a Brian Hogan or Ronan Curran had been in that position in those circumstances they would have delivered that ball up the field where it was needed at that time of the game. Maybe its inexperience in that position because as others have said the lad has maybe suffered from being too good in that hes had to have been deployed in other positions in the Antirm jersey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 24, 2012, 07:36:10 AM
Fairhead would it be fair to say that the situation you have just described is more to do with Wallis and his idea of trying to introduce the cork style running game into Antrim's play? If you'd have watched Neil the next day against Ballycastle he scored at least 4 of his 9 points from outside 70 yards. 9 points off Neil Mc Auley whom everyone else on this forum agrees is one of the top 5 or 6 we have in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
Lads he is our top player and probably will be for a few years, but there is nothing wrong with the manager getting in his face and saying, 'win the ball and play it in'
Inter county hurling is no place for the show boating that he gets away with in club hurling. How many time have we all watched him line up an opposing club player run directly at him and fall down, ref gives a free job done. These types of frees are not given at IC level.

May be a bit of inexperience but this is where again I would look to a manager to coach this out of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 24, 2012, 01:55:32 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the idea that Jerry Wallis is trying to bring in elements of the Cork game that we saw beginning in '03. However, you compared this 'running game' to some of Neil McManus' play. I don't agree with that, as Ronan Curran the CHB would not have went on aimless runs up the pitch. He was a stopper and began attacks by either using a simple hand pass to a free man or a simple clever clearance up field. If Neil, who I believe is our best player could develop this to his game then we would automatically be improving by 20%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 24, 2012, 02:38:29 PM
Ronan Curran had Joe Deane, Brian Corcoran, the McCarthys, the O'Connors to lay the ball into to name just a few where as Antrim don't have anywhere near that quality. You can't expect to have a successful game plan if the players are not capable of carrying it out. Ronan Curran also had Sean Og and Gardiner beside him to play the game plan also.

Antrim didn't change from the plan when they should have realised, 'sh*t this isn't working'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2012, 03:05:01 PM
Shane McNaughton and Liam Watson are pretty capable hurlers to be sending it into...

Anyway few people being a tad harsh on McManus here. Great hurler.

Jerry Wallace's first c'ship game. Can only get better that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 24, 2012, 06:14:47 PM
Sometimes in Antrim we can over analyse players and games, I am also guilty of this myself. However,  I will do so with the respect of the players and management, they are ones who are out there doing the training and giving the commitment to the cause. The last thing they need is someone on an internet page, and they do read on here, coming on and criticising them. Anyone care to fill me in on what lies next for the Antrim hurlers, will it be the Ulster final? How are the minors getting on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GroverJr on May 24, 2012, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2012, 03:05:01 PM
Shane McNaughton and Liam Watson are pretty capable hurlers to be sending it into...

Anyway few people being a tad harsh on McManus here. Great hurler.

Jerry Wallace's first c'ship game. Can only get better that's for sure.

True. The first game under a new manager. Kildare lost very badly under mcgeaney in his first game and a new system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2012, 11:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
Lads he is our top player and probably will be for a few years, but there is nothing wrong with the manager getting in his face and saying, 'win the ball and play it in'
Inter county hurling is no place for the show boating  that he gets away with in club hurling. How many time have we all watched him line up an opposing club player run directly at him and fall down, ref gives a free job done. These types of frees are not given at IC level.

May be a bit of inexperience but this is where again I would look to a manager to coach this out of him.
110% agree.  and it goes for all the players.  plus, i do think if NMM was played in one position by his club it would help him and the county.     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
would also like to see cormac at number 6 which would allow Neil to play at 11, this gives him the chance to do what he likes best, make the back pages
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 12:00:07 AM
Better in back pages than in front pages  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2012, 12:06:23 AM
Looking forward to getting my Gaelic Life after work tomorrow. I hear the new St Galls manager is setting his stall out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2012, 12:08:27 AM
lol ;D    didn't mean that in bad way.  IMO he is better forward than back.  serious goal threat. found this out the hard way ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 25, 2012, 01:03:31 AM
Lets try and move off the Neil McManus topic here lads, not nice to be singling out one player, even if a lot of it has been positive stuff. Any news on any of the clubs loosing players to the USA this summer? Normally a good talking point around this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2012, 12:06:23 AM
Looking forward to getting my Gaelic Life after work tomorrow. I hear the new St Galls manager is setting his stall out.

Bound to be some good sound bites. I wonder will he be talking his team up?

Tony you have some inside track  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 25, 2012, 08:08:28 AM
How do we see the weekends matches going? You could argue they are all hard to call this week, Cushendall away to Ballygalget, Dunloy away to Ballycran. St. Johns V Portaferry is 50/50 and I suppose the big question is, after a strong showing against Cushendall can Ballycastle give Loughgiel a game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2012, 08:08:28 AM
How do we see the weekends matches going? You could argue they are all hard to call this week, Cushendall away to Ballygalget, Dunloy away to Ballycran. St. Johns V Portaferry is 50/50 and I suppose the big question is, after a strong showing against Cushendall can Ballycastle give Loughgiel a game?
Dall by 7 or 8.
Dunloy by a similar amount.
Johnnies against Portaferry will be close, I'll give the nod to ST Johns because of home advantage. Johnnies by a couple.
Shamrocks by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 25, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
From Hoganstand

Terence McNaughton has walked away from his role as Antrim senior hurling selector.

'Sambo' stepped down in the wake of the Glensmens' shock 0-14 to 0-12 Leinster SHC defeat to 14-man Westmeath at Mullingar last weekend.

That result represented a massive setback for Jerry Wallace's team, who were hoping to build on the feelgood factor that had been injected into Antrim hurling by Loughgiel's All-Ireland club success two months earlier.

Cushendall clubman McNaughton is himself a former Antrim manager and his son Shane is one of the star players on the current team. He cited other commitments as his reason for stepping aside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 25, 2012, 10:15:34 AM
WTF is really going on? So the management team is now just Jerry and Collie McFall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
OK here goes then;

Dall to beat Galget
Shamrocks to beat Town
Johns to beat Pferry]
Dunloy to beat Cran (possible upset)

On the subject of Sambo - I am not sorry to see him go!
And I think it is a mark of the man that he has jumped ship mid-championship!
Sorry to be harsh but I think Sambo has issues - that is that he believes himself to be the main man, in front of even the players. I think he has departed simply becasue of his perceived reputation of himself. He wanted to be involved for his profile, but now things have gone sour he wants to jump ship rather than be tarnished further.
Sorry if thats harsh on your club man Colonel but that's my reading of him. Much better men through the Ruairi Og club.

Otherwise - Antrim oh Antrim - we really cant seem to keep much together! Constantly shooting ourselves in the foot!
I wonder what Dinny thinks of all this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 25, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
OK here goes then;

Dall to beat Galget
Shamrocks to beat Town
Johns to beat Pferry]
Dunloy to beat Cran (possible upset)

On the subject of Sambo - I am not sorry to see him go!
And I think it is a mark of the man that he has jumped ship mid-championship!
Sorry to be harsh but I think Sambo has issues - that is that he believes himself to be the main man, in front of even the players. I think he has departed simply becasue of his perceived reputation of himself. He wanted to be involved for his profile, but now things have gone sour he wants to jump ship rather than be tarnished further.
Sorry if thats harsh on your club man Colonel but that's my reading of him. Much better men through the Ruairi Og club.

Otherwise - Antrim oh Antrim - we really cant seem to keep much together! Constantly shooting ourselves in the foot!
I wonder what Dinny thinks of all this!
I'm not surprised he's left...as discussed before on here Jerry is the main man & doesnt take any advice on board. Sambo's main focus this year is with the county Minors & Jerry knew that hence Sambo not being there all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 25, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
OK here goes then;

Dall to beat Galget
Shamrocks to beat Town
Johns to beat Pferry]
Dunloy to beat Cran (possible upset)

On the subject of Sambo - I am not sorry to see him go!
And I think it is a mark of the man that he has jumped ship mid-championship!
Sorry to be harsh but I think Sambo has issues - that is that he believes himself to be the main man, in front of even the players. I think he has departed simply becasue of his perceived reputation of himself. He wanted to be involved for his profile, but now things have gone sour he wants to jump ship rather than be tarnished further.
Sorry if thats harsh on your club man Colonel but that's my reading of him. Much better men through the Ruairi Og club.

Otherwise - Antrim oh Antrim - we really cant seem to keep much together! Constantly shooting ourselves in the foot!
I wonder what Dinny thinks of all this!

I'm gonna have to defend Sambo here, his priority is the county minors, he spends enough time with them, also has irregular working hours with his role as hurling coach with Moyle Council. He went to work alongside JW as he felt he could learn something, and it was not all about him. How many men would have went back to take lesser role at the request of the current manager? If you are making journeys to Mullingar, Clare, Laois etc you would like to think that the man who asked you to come along would be decent enough to value your input? It is well noted that Dick left because he had no input. I don't know Jerry Wallace, and I'm sure not many on here do either but I no Sambo well and his heart is in the right place.

Another thing, why was Hippy Maor Foirne at the weekend? This is not about Hippy but why wasn't Sambo or Colly given that role. Quite disrespectful in my opinion to those pair and having to watch Sambo take the Maor Foirne jacket from Hippy in the stand was a bit embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 25, 2012, 11:22:42 AM
Antrim hurling at county level never seems a happy place,always some crisis or another.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 01:34:26 PM
I can see everyone's point here to be honest but some are contradictory.

I mean, if Sambo's main focus was the minors then as HardStation says - he should not have been there. What otehr county whould have a mentor invovled with their senior team when it is not their main focus!
Also, if he was just there to learn from Wallace, then why would he jack it in because of a lack of input? After all sure he is only there to learn?

The issue over the Maor Faoirne bib does sound ridiculous. I would have though such things were behind us and we had some sort of professional way of doing things but yet again these matter show how far we are behind proper teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 25, 2012, 02:36:16 PM
First Mc Manus, now Sambo. We must be the only county in Ireland to get on like this. Our focus should maybe be on the mentors and players who could make a difference and never commit rather than the boys who have given years, sometimes decades of their lives for Antrim. In relation to Sambo, he hurled for Antrim for almost 15 years and has been involved with either minors or seniors for close to 10 years. Whatever the problems are in Antrim they aren't down to Sambo. A few people need to look in the mirror rather than look for excuses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on May 25, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
The Cushendall brethern can get very prickly, nobody was having a go at Sambo merely pointing out that it was strange he took the role on when he was already with the minors. It isn't personal, relax.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on May 25, 2012, 03:24:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 01:34:26 PM
I can see everyone's point here to be honest but some are contradictory.

I mean, if Sambo's main focus was the minors then as HardStation says - he should not have been there. What otehr county whould have a mentor invovled with their senior team when it is not their main focus!
Also, if he was just there to learn from Wallace, then why would he jack it in because of a lack of input? After all sure he is only there to learn?

The issue over the Maor Faoirne bib does sound ridiculous. I would have though such things were behind us and we had some sort of professional way of doing things but yet again these matter show how far we are behind proper teams.

Do you not know many coaches that are with two different teams/squads

If he was wanting to learn from Wallace as he came with a great reputation (and we were all pleased he was appointed) but found out he didn't like his methods, the way he done things, actually wouldn't learn much and wasn't valued why would he stay around?

If there is blame being thrown out here, I for one wouldn't put it at the door of Sambo and certainly not the County Board either as he was the man WE ALL wanted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 25, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on May 25, 2012, 11:22:42 AM
Antrim hurling at county level never seems a happy place,always some crisis or another.

By God, while we mightnt win much, we certainly provide plenty of drama and intrigue!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on May 25, 2012, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2012, 10:16:25 AM


On the subject of Sambo - I am not sorry to see him go!
And I think it is a mark of the man that he has jumped ship mid-championship!
Sorry to be harsh but I think Sambo has issues - that is that he believes himself to be the main man, in front of even the players. I think he has departed simply becasue of his perceived reputation of himself. He wanted to be involved for his profile, but now things have gone sour he wants to jump ship rather than be tarnished further.


Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
The minors should always have been his only focus. No idea why he was with the seniors. He had that gig and it didn't work.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 08:08:39 PM
Why has this come as a shock? I did let you all know Weeks ago.
Who the derogatory figure was. Good riddance. Maybe the hurlers will be left to hurl now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 10:19:52 PM
SIE did a player from your club not bad mouth Sambo at Casement to some Southern guy, not knowing that the fella knew Sambo? Words like, I hate those Cushendall cnuts. I didnt hear it myself, left before it happened. Plenty of derogatory remarks fly about.

I doubt there are any posters on here who can say they have or do as much for Antrim hurling than the likes of Sambo, whether they/you like him personally is another thing. Looking after club teams is hard enough, looking after county teams even harder id say. Plenty of armchair experts with big ideas, not enough guys willing to put in some effort. If they did Antrim might be in a better place, just a thought.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 10:19:52 PM
SIE did a player from your club not bad mouth Sambo at Casement to some Southern guy, not knowing that the fella knew Sambo? Words like, I hate those Cushendall cnuts. I didnt hear it myself, left before it happened. Plenty of derogatory remarks fly about.

I doubt there are any posters on here who can say they have or do as much for Antrim hurling than the likes of Sambo, whether they/you like him personally is another thing. Looking after club teams is hard enough, looking after county teams even harder id say. Plenty of armchair experts with big ideas, not enough guys willing to put in some effort. If they did Antrim might be in a better place, just a thought.
What are you trying to prove MR2? You should know, more than most , that every club has their slabbers. Some do it on sidelines of fields, some in the press.  ;)

So we should put up with it? No. He is a divisive figure who asked the Cushendall contingent to totally ignore, and indeed, "get stuck into"  the Loughgiel fellas on their return to the county panel after their ai win. There within lies your reason why Antrim are struggling, Johnny, Joey, Scully et al would have been playing on Saturday if yer man wasn't there. The players themselves  are pretty much all on good terms. Maybe some of our better players will come back now.

I'll say it, I'm glad to see him gone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2012, 10:19:52 PM
SIE did a player from your club not bad mouth Sambo at Casement to some Southern guy, not knowing that the fella knew Sambo? Words like, I hate those Cushendall cnuts. I didnt hear it myself, left before it happened. Plenty of derogatory remarks fly about.

I doubt there are any posters on here who can say they have or do as much for Antrim hurling than the likes of Sambo, whether they/you like him personally is another thing. Looking after club teams is hard enough, looking after county teams even harder id say. Plenty of armchair experts with big ideas, not enough guys willing to put in some effort. If they did Antrim might be in a better place, just a thought.
What are you trying to prove MR2? You should know, more than most , that every club has their slabbers. Some do it on sidelines of fields, some in the press.  ;)

So we should put up with it? No. He is a divisive figure who asked the Cushendall contingent to totally ignore  the Loughgiel fellas on their return to the county panel after their ai win. There within lies your reason why Antrim are struggling, Johnny, Joey, Scully et al would have been playing on Saturday if yer man wasn't there. The players themselves  are pretty much all on good terms. Maybe some of our better players will come back now.

I'll say it, I'm glad to see him gone.

I'm not fishing or prove anything, and you're not denying it either.

Antrim are not struggling cause these lads won't commit to the team or asked. Sambo wasn't always involved and these same lads didn't play.

I doubt very much that Sambo said 'right lads, these cnuts have won an All Ireland, don't fooking talk to them' that's silly talk ffs SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 11:20:25 PM
Doubt it if you want. You obviously still don't quite grasp the rivalry up here. I'm not in the habit of posting lies,. What I've posted over the last few months has all come to fruition. Time to wise up all. Don't kill the messenger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 26, 2012, 08:19:35 AM
SIE with the greatest of respect, your full of s***e. There is a bit of paranoia creeping in with our friends from Loughgiel. You can have whatever opinion you want on Sambo but to use his presence as a reason to not turn out for the county is only a cop out. The players you mention haven't been near the county for years, maybe since Dinny's first spell in charge. Maybe these lads need to take a look in the mirror rather than trying to blame someone else for them not turning out for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2012, 10:24:14 AM
Jj, keep living in your dream world. He isn't liked outside of cushendall, or in it that much either. If he's so great why isn't he managing the ruari ogs? The fact is he is the kind of person that demands it all to be about him. He'll be no loss to Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on May 26, 2012, 11:09:07 AM
He made a good living through his connection with hurling for a few years.Paranoia exists in N.Antrim all right,but not in Loughgiel, but mainly in the clubs that cannot match their achievements.That is the truth of the matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 26, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Hate slagging people off personally but can't help but agree with SiE here. Sambo is Sambo. JJ & colonel I understand u say about the time he has given to Antrim but I think it's all been for his own benefit and self promotion.
I am certainly not saying the shamrocks were 100% rowing in behind Antrim but certainly I don't think Sambo stands behind anyone but himself. Like I said many great dall men but don't think he is one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 26, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
.He is a divisive figure who asked the Cushendall contingent to totally ignore, and indeed, "get stuck into"  the Loughgiel fellas on their return to the county panel after their ai win.

I agree that with posters that Sambo is a "ME ME" man. Can't believe whats said above even so.

The colonel said
QuoteAs regards to the fight with Watson and not backing him up. It was completely off the ball and not many would have seen it. Deliberate tactic by WM. As soon as it was noticed Hippy, Shane and McFall were straight onto the scene

If Sambo had said that about Loughgeil surely his own son would'nt have got involved defending Watson and that also shows maybe Loughgeil paranoia is wrong. First boys to defend Watson was a Ballycastle man a Cushendall man and a St Johns man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 26, 2012, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2012, 08:08:28 AM
How do we see the weekends matches going? You could argue they are all hard to call this week, Cushendall away to Ballygalget, Dunloy away to Ballycran. St. Johns V Portaferry is 50/50 and I suppose the big question is, after a strong showing against Cushendall can Ballycastle give Loughgiel a game?
Dall by 7 or 8.
Dunloy by a similar amount.
Johnnies against Portaferry will be close, I'll give the nod to ST Johns because of home advantage. Johnnies by a couple.
Shamrocks by 5

Would agree with them predictions all right. If the Town can keep the shams to 5 thats not a bad result. Is it right that Hippy came on the second half last week and played centre forward?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 26, 2012, 12:31:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2012, 12:13:20 PM
Came on for who?

for Ballycastle in the game with Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
This is getting ridiculous, are we going to pick on anyone now? We could have a pop at any club and any person from that club. Some club more than others but there is enough dirt out there to throw about (true or not).

Sambo stepped down cited his reasons and that's that. No one died.

Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 26, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic

Sambo and Dick the two mentors.

SIE and Buskwhacker the two captains. Nothing beats confidence and belief.

County board moderator as referee.

Let me know when and where and I'll dust down the cloak of anonymity.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 26, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
Can we get discussing hurling again anytime soon and forget about this constant potshotting at other prominent Gaels, gotten ridiculous in the last few months!

Ballycastle Loughgiel looks the game of the weekend especially given the towns good showing against the dall, wouldn't be at all surprised if Ballycastle turn them over, wouldn't be that much between the sides anyway and if Loughgiel are still resting one or two!

We are away to Ballycran, wee tight field is alway difficult to come away from with the points, fully expect a battle and we'll take any sort of win if we can get it!

Cushendall should be to strong for Ballygalget, they seemed to be missing a few against us last week and unless they get them back they could really struggle this year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on May 26, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
This is getting ridiculous, are we going to pick on anyone now? We could have a pop at any club and any person from that club. Some club more than others but there is enough dirt out there to throw about (true or not).

Sambo stepped down cited his reasons and that's that. No one died.


Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic

Minder marking kevin mcgourty? Clash of the titans!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 26, 2012, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 26, 2012, 07:21:18 PM
Can we get discussing hurling again anytime soon and forget about this constant potshotting at other prominent Gaels, gotten ridiculous in the last few months!

Ballycastle Loughgiel looks the game of the weekend especially given the towns good showing against the dall, wouldn't be at all surprised if Ballycastle turn them over, wouldn't be that much between the sides anyway and if Loughgiel are still resting one or two!

We are away to Ballycran, wee tight field is alway difficult to come away from with the points, fully expect a battle and we'll take any sort of win if we can get it!

Cushendall should be to strong for Ballygalget, they seemed to be missing a few against us last week and unless they get them back they could really struggle this year!
How many jibes against Loughgiel can you get in one post?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on May 26, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
SIE maybe all you say about sambo is true but dont start telling anyone that he or anyone else for that matter is a more divisive figure than your own son of god. talk about me me me. even the dogs in the street know that dick o kane left he county set up because of the vile comments made by your man  personally about dick and anything else dunloy related. when dick brought it to wallis attention he was told that wallis would take no action. fairly hippocritical if you ask me considering that wallis left dinny cahills back room team because none other that "our boy" himself got found out placing a handsome wager on himself to be first man booked against cork. after scoring 6 points from play he duly obliged with a sending off. when wallis confronted dinny he was told nothing more would be done so he left. i dont know why everyone has been avoiding this issue when dick left. throw in the fact that wallis only gameplan last week was that if "our boy" cant win it for us we cant win it, then no big surprise in the result. bottom line is that the man is without doubt  the most gifted hurler to ever come out of antrim but he and he alone is the divisive figure in the changing room and his antics over his gambling windfall added to his social network postings on dunloy are the cause of ALL the friction. he should be sent packing & told never to return. before you slate me for anti shammrockness i'll also say the shammrocks dont need him anymore as they have a 6 forward unit capable of beating any team. ps. anyone doubting his facebook claims go on & read his comments this week that he would have hammered the west meath manager on sunday when the scuffle broke out if he could have got hold of him. absolutely priceless stuff. all i can say if he is a treasure, then keep him over the mountain. total disgrace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2012, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 26, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic

Sambo and Dick the two mentors.

SIE and Buskwhacker the two captains. Nothing beats confidence and belief.

County board moderator as referee.

Let me know when and where and I'll dust down the cloak of anonymity.
I want the 14 Jersey, like the old days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 26, 2012, 10:10:02 PM
read the last few pages there, lot of slabbering, this site will have no bother breaking the 4000 barrier by year end. 

Sambo is off course feathering his own nest, however he has contributed alot as a hurler, though that sending off he recieved still terrible.  should have been made serve the other year. 

As a manager, well !!!!! his record is certainly there to be shot at, at both club and county.  Certainly most others with his club record would have struggled to get the amount of county jobs.

Am surprised if his comments about the shams are true/  If so, it is a massive black mark.  As for Dick ???? don't really know him, good hurler but again if he can#t gel a group better or be big enough to congratulate and keep the head down.

Worried about direction Jerry taking us in, but maybe a total clean out could help. 

AS for the Shams still would like to think Scully, and the rest of the boys should be big enough to put their name forward for county no matter who the manager is.  Its Antrim they are playing for, not the manager.

Is O'Connell still up with the county ? hear the glenariff man is the number 2.
Still think Barney too slow for it SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 26, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2012, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 26, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic

Sambo and Dick the two mentors.

SIE and Buskwhacker the two captains. Nothing beats confidence and belief.

County board moderator as referee.

Let me know when and where and I'll dust down the cloak of anonymity.
I want the 14 Jersey, like the old days.

more like 15 or 13 SIE. before the oul knee problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 12:16:42 AM
Quote from: auld stock on May 26, 2012, 08:23:26 PM
SIE maybe all you say about sambo is true but dont start telling anyone that he or anyone else for that matter is a more divisive figure than your own son of god. talk about me me me. even the dogs in the street know that dick o kane left he county set up because of the vile comments made by your man  personally about dick and anything else dunloy related. when dick brought it to wallis attention he was told that wallis would take no action. fairly hippocritical if you ask me considering that wallis left dinny cahills back room team because none other that "our boy" himself got found out placing a handsome wager on himself to be first man booked against cork. after scoring 6 points from play he duly obliged with a sending off. when wallis confronted dinny he was told nothing more would be done so he left. i dont know why everyone has been avoiding this issue when dick left. throw in the fact that wallis only gameplan last week was that if "our boy" cant win it for us we cant win it, then no big surprise in the result. bottom line is that the man is without doubt  the most gifted hurler to ever come out of antrim but he and he alone is the divisive figure in the changing room and his antics over his gambling windfall added to his social network postings on dunloy are the cause of ALL the friction. he should be sent packing & told never to return. before you slate me for anti shammrockness i'll also say the shammrocks dont need him anymore as they have a 6 forward unit capable of beating any team. ps. anyone doubting his facebook claims go on & read his comments this week that he would have hammered the west meath manager on sunday when the scuffle broke out if he could have got hold of him. absolutely priceless stuff. all i can say if he is a treasure, then keep him over the mountain. total disgrace
I'm not going to defend anything that Winker says or does, not my bag, as the saying goes. I personally have never had any problems with him. In fact, I like the lad. I've watched him playing from he was a teenager and we "over the mountain" always knew how good he was, some on here doubted it. He'd do well to stop publishing such shit stirring stuff on FB or elsewhere and get on with what he does best, hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 12:18:38 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 26, 2012, 10:10:02 PM
read the last few pages there, lot of slabbering, this site will have no bother breaking the 4000 barrier by year end. 

Sambo is off course feathering his own nest, however he has contributed alot as a hurler, though that sending off he recieved still terrible.  should have been made serve the other year. 

As a manager, well !!!!! his record is certainly there to be shot at, at both club and county.  Certainly most others with his club record would have struggled to get the amount of county jobs.

Am surprised if his comments about the shams are true/  If so, it is a massive black mark.  As for Dick ???? don't really know him, good hurler but again if he can#t gel a group better or be big enough to congratulate and keep the head down.

Worried about direction Jerry taking us in, but maybe a total clean out could help. 

AS for the Shams still would like to think Scully, and the rest of the boys should be big enough to put their name forward for county no matter who the manager is.  Its Antrim they are playing for, not the manager.

Is O'Connell still up with the county ? hear the glenariff man is the number 2.
Still think Barney too slow for it SIE
He's been hurling and training non stop for 2 years. He still has moments that make him stand out from the rest. He probably could do with a rest to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 26, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2012, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 26, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2012, 04:31:30 PM
Would love to see a hurling match between the posters (Antrim ones) on this site, a seven a side, be some craic

Sambo and Dick the two mentors.

SIE and Buskwhacker the two captains. Nothing beats confidence and belief.

County board moderator as referee.

Let me know when and where and I'll dust down the cloak of anonymity.
I want the 14 Jersey, like the old days.

more like 15 or 13 SIE. before the oul knee problems
;D  Nothing wrong with my knees, my main problem was my lack of ability.  And always no. 14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Some very personal debating going on here over the last few days, give it a rest lads! Lets talk about the positives in the county, and lean more towards the club scene. Having said that, did the county friendly against Laois go ahead yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 27, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Some very personal debating going on here over the last few days, give it a rest lads! Lets talk about the positives in the county, and lean more towards the club scene. Having said that, did the county friendly against Laois go ahead yesterday?

Antrim 6 21 Laois 2 11. Per the Club Antrim twitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2012, 12:54:29 PM
A week late :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 27, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Some very personal debating going on here over the last few days, give it a rest lads! Lets talk about the positives in the county, and lean more towards the club scene. Having said that, did the county friendly against Laois go ahead yesterday?

focusing on the club scene would lead us to more negatives, with accepting of shams, ruairi's and maybe the town, possibly dunloy all the rest is pretty shit.  alot of teams struggling with nos etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 27, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
have to say, i think marty morissey and kevin mcstay need the p45's.  Same oul boring shite and lines all the time.  Bit like yourself MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 27, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
have to say, i think marty morissey and kevin mcstay need the p45's.  Same oul boring shite and lines all the time.  Bit like yourself MR2

Another quality post from the Bredagh man, suppose you'll be at Creegan later?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 27, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Some very personal debating going on here over the last few days, give it a rest lads! Lets talk about the positives in the county, and lean more towards the club scene. Having said that, did the county friendly against Laois go ahead yesterday?

focusing on the club scene would lead us to more negatives, with accepting of shams, ruairi's and maybe the town, possibly dunloy all the rest is pretty shit.  alot of teams struggling with nos etc

How are the Down leagues fairing Saff? Give us Antrim men some insight into how they are going :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 08:21:19 PM
So although his username is saffron89, he's a down man? How does that work?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 08:55:59 PM
All joking aside, is the Ballycran/Dunloy result for real? I'm hearing Ballycran won by double scores.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 27, 2012, 09:27:19 PM
we won by a goal, phew!!!!   Cushendall have to be favourites for the league and  the championship now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on May 27, 2012, 10:46:05 PM
St John's 0-22 Portaferry 2-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 27, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
I said it here that sarsfields will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. Div 2 is wideopen with a lot more twists to come. Paddies wanted the game more tonight. Simple. St galls players didn't seem to have the desire to win or get stuck in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 27, 2012, 11:07:21 PM
Galls missing many? Poor result. Sarsfields seem to have some good young hurlers- any of them county standard? Christ we could do with some ball winners. I know they have a couple on panel but I mean potential to start. Glenariffe back to div1 then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2012, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: Move er on on May 27, 2012, 11:07:21 PM
Galls missing many? Poor result. Sarsfields seem to have some good young hurlers- any of them county standard? Christ we could do with some ball winners. I know they have a couple on panel but I mean potential to start. Glenariffe back to div1 then.

It would do us no favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on May 27, 2012, 11:34:03 PM
In fairness div 2 is a competitive league. Although the decline of tir an og and Gort have lessened the competitiveness. Think glennariffe would be better served in div1. Have you many coming through minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2012, 11:54:19 PM
I didnt catch all the game tonight but in short galls were missing quite a few - but credit to sarsfields who put in a real shift. Very impressive. It's games like this that could cost galls when short players that may let Glenarrife top the table - unless the paddies pull it off! Fancied Glenarrife at the start - then galls - now Glenarrife again! Great league twisting and turning.

Lookin at division1 the down teams and St johns are not much above this if any.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on May 28, 2012, 07:17:46 AM
btdtgtt you dont seem to get to many games but always commenting, put the pints down and pay in the odd time it does work you know. Anyway murder on the dance floor at hannahstown town last night, TNO manager put off the pitch and all hell broke loose in with the supporters when he chinned Micko H , then it started back on the pitch 5 minutes later, fckn mahem! And yes i paid in £3 well worth it in the end, what a show!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 28, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Some interesting results over the weekend, Ballycastle hurled well and had Loughgiel on the rack for long periods, the young lads they have introduced this year are doing the business. Ciaran Clarke, Saul Mc Caughan and Shane Jennings all did well and got scores. Handy wins for Cushendall and St. Johns but what happened to Dunloy????? The way things are going Ballycastle could well upset them come Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2012, 09:06:50 AM
Loughgiel Shamrocks    1-16    0-16    Mac Uilin CLG             
St John's GAC    0-22    2-8    St.Patricks, Portaferry
Ballygalget    0-13    1-21    Ruairí Óg    
Ballycran    4-18    1-12    Cuchullains-Dunloy


The Dall won at a canter yesterday evening, not really tested at all, in fact I don't think their keeper(s) had one save to make the whole hour.

We really didn't have any cutting edge and for some strange reason the only lad who was doing anything in the forwards, Caolan Baille was moved into full forward where he was starved off the ball and as he's a minor wasn't going to get much change out of Gaffin anyway. Our defence battled away gamely but were on a hiding to nothing as no sooner did they clear a ball, it was back up the field with interest. Only shining light we had was Baille and a young fella McGrath, also a minor did rightly on Carson and will learn from it.
Got a man rightly red carded for an off the ball pull, even if he believes he was on the receiving end first, he'll need to learn to bide his time as all good things come to those who wait. The ref did rightly but I thought he was a bit harsh on a Dall corner back with a yellow in the first half, for nothing that I could see and the same lad then ended up getting another yellow later on for a bit of a late pull.

We're supposed to have Loughgeil down on Wednesday night but with Down drawing against London with the replay this Saturday, I can see the Down management wanting that one moved yet again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2012, 09:22:14 AM
We were beat by a very good Sarsfield's team yesterday. Really impressed by them and Kevo has them fighting for every ball.

Number 12 (McKenna) knocked over some great points, very impressive.

No complaints from the boys in blue :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: lonely1 on May 28, 2012, 07:17:46 AM
btdtgtt you dont seem to get to many games but always commenting, put the pints down and pay in the odd time it does work you know. Anyway murder on the dance floor at hannahstown town last night, TNO manager put off the pitch and all hell broke loose in with the supporters when he chinned Micko H , then it started back on the pitch 5 minutes later, fckn mahem! And yes i paid in £3 well worth it in the end, what a show!!!!!

No idea where you got this from but maybe that's why you're lonely. I get to games everywhere every week.
I was there for the start of the game - paying in is no bother. I had to leave early for a BBQ - and yes I bought both drinks and food there too!
It would seem you are the one posting from a position of complete ignorance.

Mr2 - where do you think the Paddies will finish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 09:27:20 AM


Mr2 - where do you think the Paddies will finish?

Strong at home so expect them to pick up majority of their points at home, also with the div littered with Belfast teams they will also do well at a few venues there. Top 3 team. Before tonight we had the best defence. They scored 16 scores to our 9 scores, tells its own story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
So then MR2;

1&2) Glenariife / Galls
3) Sarsfields
4/5/6) Lambs Rossa Carey
7) Randalstown
8 ) Gort

Do you think that's a fair prediction?

Seems likely to me - I wonder what will be saying in Sept/Oct!

How do you (and others) compare the top Div2 teams with the Ards sides and St Johns?
I think they are close - bu the difference is that the Div1 teams are more effective and getting stronger sides out through the course of the season - thats what league hurling is about, as opposed to championship - think Galls showed this last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 28, 2012, 10:13:00 AM
Ballycran tore Dunloy apart in a devastating 7/8 minute spell in the first half.  Game had been nip and tuck when Ballycran blasted something like 3-3 without reply.  Game over before half time.  Very disappointing performance from Dunloy, showed very little fight or resolve after the break and have alot of questions to answer now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2012, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 10:10:12 AM
So then MR2;

1&2) Glenariife / Galls
3) Sarsfields
4/5/6) Lambs Rossa Carey
7) Randalstown
8) Gort

Do you think that's a fair prediction?

Seems likely to me - I wonder what will be saying in Sept/Oct!

How do you (and others) compare the top Div2 teams with the Ards sides and St Johns?
I think they are close - bu the difference is that the Div1 teams are more effective and getting stronger sides out through the course of the season - thats what league hurling is about, as opposed to championship - think Galls showed this last year.

Top 3 so any position in there. Rossa still in the mix, though depends on how they do down in Glenariffe. Lamhs beat again so they will need to re group and get ready for Championship.

Sarsfields could be the surprise packet in the Intermed Championship. Small panel but if they are all fit I'd say they would give it a real rattle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 28, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
I believe Rossa have got their house in order again and could well have a say in where the league title goes.

Results between Rossa, Glenariff, Sarsfields and st galls will decide where the league goes and I would say each team will have points taken off them by someone so goal difference who could have a major say come the last day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
manandball - intersting I agree with you the results between these teams will decide the title - but I dont see Rossa figuring.
They fail too often to get their numbers out. Who is picking up the pieces after McCullough?

For me its still Galls/Oisins but great to see Sarsfields in the mix - they could be king-makers with Rossa alright but neither contesting promotion really.

I will say it again - great league! And how do you think these sides compare to Ards + Johnnies?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
Fair play HS - I recall them picking up the pieces before no? For St Johns in Championship no less.
Should steady the ship and get respectability into league standing but I think it's too late for Rossa - will drop more points without strongest team lining out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 28, 2012, 11:58:12 AM
greeting followers.  SIE to explain, joined bredagh since living in belfast the past 5 years. But always been a saffron man and still am.  Though little to cheer about.  Thankyou MR2 for your compliments.

Bad result for you last nite.  Agree with btgtt that it is a very competitive league and now oisins would be favourites.  will have to get up to see a sars game, was impressed with we light corner forward mckernan in u21 campaign last year.  This fine form must be continuing.  Reckon if Oisins beat Galls at home and Paddies away they will have it in the bag.  Though the RASSA might have something to say yet.

Hear hippy and county finished after he got a 2 month ban which they will not appeal.  He did anyway and got it extended by a week.  Now a few unsavoury gentlemen are trying to have a ballycastle county issue.  Ballycastle really fancy a shot at the championship over the next couple of years.  No time like the present.

As for the Down leagues, they are dire, Down hurling is in a bad way, despite Christy ring performances papering over the cracks. Despite the crans vgood result i feel that hurling is in a bad way in the ards.

Antrim senior set up is getting a little hairy, though maybe with all the high profile departures  things might settle down.  Just hope a bit of maturity is shown with the Ballycastle situation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Some interesting results over the weekend, Ballycastle hurled well and had Loughgiel on the rack for long periods, the young lads they have introduced this year are doing the business. Ciaran Clarke, Saul Mc Caughan and Shane Jennings all did well and got scores. Handy wins for Cushendall and St. Johns but what happened to Dunloy????? The way things are going Ballycastle could well upset them come Championship.

the way things are going at the minute it will be an upset if we beat ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 01:45:31 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 28, 2012, 11:58:12 AM

Hear hippy and county finished after he got a 2 month ban which they will not appeal.  He did anyway and got it extended by a week. 

Could'nt blame him for that you would think your manager if he is'nt gonna back you would keep his mouth shut and not slag you off in the papers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Some interesting results over the weekend, Ballycastle hurled well and had Loughgiel on the rack for long periods, the young lads they have introduced this year are doing the business. Ciaran Clarke, Saul Mc Caughan and Shane Jennings all did well and got scores. Handy wins for Cushendall and St. Johns but what happened to Dunloy????? The way things are going Ballycastle could well upset them come Championship.

the way things are going at the minute it will be an upset if we beat ballycastle

The Town have given the dall and loughgeil good gmaes in the last 2 weeks and Dunloy are lookin like they could be in a relegation fight but plenty games to go and thye'll know they have to raise there game. They'll be different in the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2012, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Some interesting results over the weekend, Ballycastle hurled well and had Loughgiel on the rack for long periods, the young lads they have introduced this year are doing the business. Ciaran Clarke, Saul Mc Caughan and Shane Jennings all did well and got scores. Handy wins for Cushendall and St. Johns but what happened to Dunloy????? The way things are going Ballycastle could well upset them come Championship.

the way things are going at the minute it will be an upset if we beat ballycastle

The Town have given the dall and loughgeil good gmaes in the last 2 weeks and Dunloy are lookin like they could be in a relegation fight but plenty games to go and thye'll know they have to raise there game. They'll be different in the championship.

Giving a good game, getting beat and playing crap, getting beat still leaves you with no points either way last time I checked.

The top league has been a farce for the last few years, with very few competitive games in it, teams only play when it suits them to play and only put in the effort when its required.

The pace and intensity is no where near the level needed for championship pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
On the Hippy thing he would if he runs in to the playing area, when not even playing he is leaving himself open to some sort of ban. Cant blame the manager for that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2012, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
Some interesting results over the weekend, Ballycastle hurled well and had Loughgiel on the rack for long periods, the young lads they have introduced this year are doing the business. Ciaran Clarke, Saul Mc Caughan and Shane Jennings all did well and got scores. Handy wins for Cushendall and St. Johns but what happened to Dunloy????? The way things are going Ballycastle could well upset them come Championship.

the way things are going at the minute it will be an upset if we beat ballycastle

The Town have given the dall and loughgeil good gmaes in the last 2 weeks and Dunloy are lookin like they could be in a relegation fight but plenty games to go and thye'll know they have to raise there game. They'll be different in the championship.

Giving a good game, getting beat and playing crap, getting beat still leaves you with no points either way last time I checked.

The top league has been a farce for the last few years, with very few competitive games in it, teams only play when it suits them to play and only put in the effort when its required.

The pace and intensity is no where near the level needed for championship pace.

Pretty much what I said NAG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on May 28, 2012, 02:51:08 PM
On the Ballycastle v Loughgiel game..Ballycastle will be happy with two close games in recent weeks, Loughgiel will be happy as they got another 2 points without much training done in recent weeks, everyone happy! I do believe that Ballycastle will be there abouts in c'ship. A narrow loss to Dunloy would be a distaster given the expectation they are now putting on themselves but a vistory could spring Ballycastles hurling forward a few years! A winning mentality gained from beating one of the big hitters in antrim over the past 2 decades would give a lot of hope for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
On the Hippy thing he would if he runs in to the playing area, when not even playing he is leaving himself open to some sort of ban. Cant blame the manager for that one.

Not blamin the Wally for the ban itself but for slabberin in the paper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2012, 02:58:34 PM
Yeah he shouldnt have opened his mouth the press, thought he might have learned from previous managers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
Yes but can't help think Wallace snipe in paper was ab early parting shot! Expect a few more once we are put of the championship. Basically convincing big teams in south that it was all players and officialdom rather than him. Truth in both I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
hippys ban is antrims loss and his clubs gain, I think hes a real leader and maybe he shouldn't have went on to the pitch in mulllangar but he was going to back his own players. i thought hanley was on the pitch to, did anything come of that. I agree with all said here about wallace he hung him in the press when saying nothing would have been suffice. sure if Tommy Walsh boards someone across the legs and Cody is asked about it. He would say its a mans game. right or wrong if you cant back your players say nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 28, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
hippys ban is antrims loss and his clubs gain, I think hes a real leader and maybe he shouldn't have went on to the pitch in mulllangar but he was going to back his own players. i thought hanley was on the pitch to, did anything come of that. I agree with all said here about wallace he hung him in the press when saying nothing would have been suffice. sure if Tommy Walsh boards someone across the legs and Cody is asked about it. He would say its a mans game. right or wrong if you cant back your players say nothing

great post. thats totally right. he's still not 100% after his injury and he can get that right now and he is a leader and can make the  differnce in a tight game. The Wally can make do with young Carson. no harm to him I hope he does well but the Wally can crash and burn all the way back to Cork.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 28, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Great result for Sars last night though can't see them lasting the pace over the entire season. St Galls will not want to drop any more points over the next few games, how they react to this result will be very interesting. Rossa and Glenariffe match whenever that is refixed could be a huge one, really fancy the winner from this game to gain promotion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2012, 11:20:29 PM
Ur getting as bad as me with city bias slicker!

There is nothing in results so far to suggest Rossa might beat Glenarrife and even if they did they are still several points off the pace.

Galls / oisins shootout no doubt - Rossa and sarsfields playing king makers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 29, 2012, 01:50:31 AM
A win for Rossa would leave them 1 point behind based on the table? Maybe I am wrong... I gave two teams one city, one from north antrim. Giving the large number of Belfast teams in div 2 it's hard not to.... St Galls will have distractions, Sars still lack a bit of experience at this level, and Rossa will not be distracted from their footballers because I believe they will be relegated from div 1.... I have just bitten your bullet??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 29, 2012, 07:57:17 AM
Rossa have as good as a chance as any of the 4 teams mentioned. The simple truth is that there is only a puck of a ball between any of the teams and if any team wins ALL their remaining matches there is a great possibility that they will win the league. However I can't see that happening and throw into the mix lambs, carey ot tir na nog causing an upset and this league will go down to the last day. Any particular reason why you think sarsfields won't last the full season?. They are young, fresh, eager, fit and have no fear. I have to disagree with you there and like MR2 think they will have a great shout in intermediate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 29, 2012, 09:28:33 AM
Yes I take both your points to be honest I see where you are coming from.

Intermediate championship would be a great success for the Paddies and this is more likey - they have a small squad so are likely to drop points when players go on holidays etc.
Rossa's start means they can afford to drop anymore points - are they really likely to beat Oisins and Galls away from home? So far they have only beaten the bottom two! And still goin to drop more points as too often field weakened sides.

I do agree Oisins and Galls may also drop unexpected points - its what makes this league - but as I ahve said many times Oisins not being a dual club is a huge advantage. My money is on them but I hope MR2's boys prove me wrong.

Is there a run of games coming up?
When does our great county team play again - what will this do to fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 29, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
I agree with the point made that Glenariffe are favorites to go up, and I believe they will just about, however, sarsfields lacking experience and a big squad that has been pointed out, St Galls will revert to their chosen sport of football, I feel Rossa may have the best chance to topple them. If they do loose away in Glenariffe though I would say the league is all over, as Glenariffe have St Galls at home to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 29, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
Sars??

They were always known as the "Paddy's" in my day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 29, 2012, 10:07:36 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on May 29, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
Sars??

They were always known as the "Paddy's" in my day.
Still the Paddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 29, 2012, 11:06:50 PM
Agree, I wasn't using this as their nickname, just a quick way of referring to them. Still the paddies surely, as we are so often reminded at their games...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on May 30, 2012, 12:49:52 AM
SIE....was wondering what you thought of the two games in Loughgiel at the weekend.Two great games of hurling i thought.Although making progress i feel we are a long way of challenging yet.But was wetted the appetite to go and watch more of the U21 Champ.An great double header in Dunloy men.Id say as with Rossa vs Town another two great games on the cards!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 30, 2012, 06:25:57 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 30, 2012, 12:49:52 AM
SIE....was wondering what you thought of the two games in Loughgiel at the weekend.Two great games of hurling i thought.Although making progress i feel we are a long way of challenging yet.But was wetted the appetite to go and watch more of the U21 Champ.An great double header in Dunloy men.Id say as with Rossa vs Town another two great games on the cards!
Yous pushed us all the way, can't read too much into it though as Loughgiel only begin training this week.  The young fellas have definitely improved the standard of the town. Come the end of August we'll see exactly where we all stand. I expect you to improve consistently over the next few years, as I've said before, Antrim need a strong town team.

I'm looking forward to the u21 matches. Both should be close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 30, 2012, 08:50:52 AM
How long have we been saying this about the Town now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 30, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
NAG the difference now is the town are starting to put in a few performances of note, in the space of a week they could and maybe should have beaten at least one of Cushendall or Loughgiel. I think in particular against Loughgiel the only reason they lost was poor shooting. Yes they have had good young players in the past who have failed to make the grade at senior level but the young fellas who are new onto the senior team this year are making waves. I thought Ciaran Clarke was excellent against both ourselves and Loughgiel, Saul Mc Caughan as well. Jennings didn't play against our seniors but against Loughgiel he made a contribution as well. They might not win the championship this year because they'll probably need to beat Dunloy then Cushendall and then Loughgiel and I can't see they doing that but they might well cause an upset or 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on May 30, 2012, 01:19:29 PM
Lets hope its only 1 or 2 upsets and not 3  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 30, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
NAG the difference now is the town are starting to put in a few performances of note, in the space of a week they could and maybe should have beaten at least one of Cushendall or Loughgiel. I think in particular against Loughgiel the only reason they lost was poor shooting. Yes they have had good young players in the past who have failed to make the grade at senior level but the young fellas who are new onto the senior team this year are making waves. I thought Ciaran Clarke was excellent against both ourselves and Loughgiel, Saul Mc Caughan as well. Jennings didn't play against our seniors but against Loughgiel he made a contribution as well. They might not win the championship this year because they'll probably need to beat Dunloy then Cushendall and then Loughgiel and I can't see they doing that but they might well cause an upset or 2.

Tut tut :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 30, 2012, 02:19:38 PM
Need to get up an watch a few St Johns games, they seem to be going pretty well in Div 1, better than last year? Anyone saw much of them this year, should account for Lamh Dhearg in the championship and then face Rossa or Loughgiel, is that the draw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
What date is set for Antrims 'backdoor' game in the Championship?

Edit: seen it there, 23rd June
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
Anyone got the latest on the seniors hurlers and what exactly is going on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Preliminary on June 23 or 1st round June 30. AFAIK six teams into the hat after games this weekend and luck of the draw as to what stage you join. Ironically, we could be further along than Westmeath on Sunday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Preliminary on June 23 or 1st round June 30. AFAIK six teams into the hat after games this weekend and luck of the draw as to what stage you join. Ironically, we could be further along than Westmeath on Sunday night

Aye was reading that, strange set up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 30, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
Have heard there have been a couple of walk aways from the camp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Simon McCrory left I heard but not sure if any others
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 30, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 30, 2012, 08:50:52 AM
How long have we been saying this about the Town now?

By we i presume you mean people outside Ballycastle because most of the people in the club know and have known for a number of years that its going to take a long time for the senior team to be really competitive again. Once the core of the team from the late 90's and early 2000's started to retire we didnt really threaten in the championship. Its only since 2009 that the team has become competitive in the championship again, apart from the one obvious exception last year. Remember a core group of the current L'giel players were over 26/27 when they won the championsip in 2010. Ballycastle arent anywherer near that age profile yet as a team. We are going in the right direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 30, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
When did bcastle last win the championship?
Is their drought similar to st johns?

I agree they have great tradition would be good to see the town challenge always big physical side and now some quality hurlers like that late 90s side and before. Interesting point on age profile I think club hurling late 20s early 30s is best rather than perhaps the younger profile of county teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 30, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 30, 2012, 10:40:58 PM
When did bcastle last win the championship?
Is their drought similar to st johns?

I agree they have great tradition would be good to see the town challenge always big physical side and now some quality hurlers like that late 90s side and before. Interesting point on age profile I think club hurling late 20s early 30s is best rather than perhaps the younger profile of county teams.

was it 1986 the town last delivered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 30, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 30, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
NAG the difference now is the town are starting to put in a few performances of note, in the space of a week they could and maybe should have beaten at least one of Cushendall or Loughgiel. I think in particular against Loughgiel the only reason they lost was poor shooting. Yes they have had good young players in the past who have failed to make the grade at senior level but the young fellas who are new onto the senior team this year are making waves. I thought Ciaran Clarke was excellent against both ourselves and Loughgiel, Saul Mc Caughan as well. Jennings didn't play against our seniors but against Loughgiel he made a contribution as well. They might not win the championship this year because they'll probably need to beat Dunloy then Cushendall and then Loughgiel and I can't see they doing that but they might well cause an upset or 2.

Tut tut :o
haha,  get it printed out and up on dressing room walls MR2 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 30, 2012, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 30, 2012, 03:48:22 PM
Simon McCrory left I heard but not sure if any others
i think Simon walking away is as much JW doing as simons,  heard simon was leaving for a break after county is finished.  Wallis announced before game that Simon was leaving.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 30, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 30, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
NAG the difference now is the town are starting to put in a few performances of note, in the space of a week they could and maybe should have beaten at least one of Cushendall or Loughgiel. I think in particular against Loughgiel the only reason they lost was poor shooting. Yes they have had good young players in the past who have failed to make the grade at senior level but the young fellas who are new onto the senior team this year are making waves. I thought Ciaran Clarke was excellent against both ourselves and Loughgiel, Saul Mc Caughan as well. Jennings didn't play against our seniors but against Loughgiel he made a contribution as well. They might not win the championship this year because they'll probably need to beat Dunloy then Cushendall and then Loughgiel and I can't see they doing that but they might well cause an upset or 2.

Tut tut :o
haha,  get it printed out and up on dressing room walls MR2 ;)



then Cushendall  

Already done ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 30, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
Checked county site. Town last win in 86 that's an eternity for such a club nobody knows that as much as them I am sure.

Didn't realise johnnies last win was 1973! God almighty!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2012, 11:37:00 PM
They have had five doubles, Rossa 4, some record. Serious clubs if truth be told
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 30, 2012, 11:40:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 30, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
Checked county site. Town last win in 86 that's an eternity for such a club nobody knows that as much as them I am sure.

Didn't realise johnnies last win was 1973! God almighty!
never know whats around corner,  like ourselves. never thought at time it would of been as long coming,   :-\   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 30, 2012, 11:43:41 PM
No All Ireland on Shaws Rd or Whiterock Rd like your boys have though Milltown. Must hurt the bigger clubs....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on May 30, 2012, 11:57:19 PM
McCrory did not quit before the game. He left a day after the game. Wallace spent a large portion of training on tues night lying to the team saying McCrory quit before the game - untrue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 31, 2012, 12:04:52 AM
Save me the hassle then mr2?!

Add stjohns hurling + football and compare to Rossa hurling + football?
I assume no others close?

Is Karl back fit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 31, 2012, 12:07:21 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on May 30, 2012, 11:57:19 PM
McCrory did not quit before the game. He left a day after the game. Wallace spent a large portion of training on tues night lying to the team saying McCrory quit before the game - untrue.
more or less what i was saying cornerback
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 31, 2012, 10:02:09 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 31, 2012, 12:04:52 AM
Save me the hassle then mr2?!

Add stjohns hurling + football and compare to Rossa hurling + football?
I assume no others close?

Is Karl back fit?

Didn't feature in their football game last night and wasn't kitted out. Kieran McGourty was though and moving about well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 31, 2012, 10:49:34 AM
You lot are quick to mis quote someone  :-X You missed the word "PROBABLY" Is anyone arguing that we are not favorites against St. Galls?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 31, 2012, 10:49:34 AM
You lot are quick to mis quote someone  :-X You missed the word "PROBABLY" Is anyone arguing that we are not favorites against St. Galls?

They meaning Ballycastle, would need to beat.........

You'll be 1/6 against us no doubt and a have a far better team available come championship. No surprise packet also. Ten point winners I'd say at Casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2012, 12:45:13 PM
Happy to come away with a one point win from Ballygalget yesterday evening.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 31, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2012, 12:45:13 PM
Happy to come away with a one point win from Ballygalget yesterday evening.  :)

A much improved performance from our lads but run out of steam and strength in depth to make a difference in the forwards in particular.

The county lads had played 3 games in 5 days and some of the others had played 3 games in 4 days.

In saying that we'd a chance right at the death to level it, alas it fell to the wrong Clarke, Liam instead of Eoin or Stevie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 31, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
How is young Toner getting on in Antrim Div 1 for Ballygalget Johhny? Excellent prospect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 31, 2012, 04:02:09 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 31, 2012, 03:31:25 PM
How is young Toner getting on in Antrim Div 1 for Ballygalget Johhny? Excellent prospect.

Danny I presume? He's getting on OK, injured at the minute with ankle/ligaments injury picked up playing for the county.

Wee bollocks needed his arse booted last year, did ankle damage playing gaelic football for Saul just before the championship, shouldn't have started and was hauled ashore before half time. Not sure if he's done the same one this time.

The other Toner, Ben (cousin) is beset with injuries, bolloxed his knee last year and played very little because of it, got a shoulder injury in the ulster league vrs Cushendall and then got red carded on sunday. That'll give him plenty of time to work on his fitness over the coming month or so! Ben would be a good hurler if he'd wise up a bit, but alas youth is wasted on the young!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 02, 2012, 08:34:30 AM
Any predictions for tonight's U-21 semi finals? Should be 2 cracking games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 02, 2012, 11:00:09 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 02, 2012, 08:34:30 AM
Any predictions for tonight's U-21 semi finals? Should be 2 cracking games

Should both be close.

Have to go for Ballycastle in the first fingers crossed and Cushendall in the second but no final pair would be surprising
it is ballycastle/Loughgeil v Cushendall/ St Kevins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 02, 2012, 10:19:20 PM
Town v Dall final then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 03, 2012, 08:43:57 AM
Ballycastle put in a great performance against Loughgiel, I'd be worried about them in the final. Disappointed in St. Kevin's I was expecting a much tougher game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 03, 2012, 10:17:13 AM
jj your as bad as MR2  ;D

Ballycastle v Loughgeil was a odd game they mebbe canseled each other out a good bit. Good players on both teams but never really sparked into good hurling. A lot of hard work fom both sides andthe Town look like they can dig out a result espesially with gettin a man sent off with  10 minutes left. Deserved the red too. Cushendall looked a v good side. Good players playing well for each other. First half that No 14 (is that Carson somebody said) big hefty chap but he can move and laid off ball for other boys to take points the Dall looked much better team. Fair play St Kevins were 10 points down at half time and came out and turned things round for 15 minutes. Scored 1-3 to 0-0 in first part of second half. Some Dall boys got v rattled and were gwttin narky. TThen your N0 6 I think and your No 13 got a hold off things and youse got a couple of points and St Kevins faded a bit then. St Kevins had some real good players too but on last night you'd have to say Cushendall are favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 03, 2012, 10:35:52 AM
HAHAHA, thats it started then. The full forward was Dominic Delargy, he had some game in fairness scored 1-3 himself and I'm sure set up another 4 or 5 as well. The number 6 is Paddy Burke, still a minor next year. 13 was Eoin Laverty. I wouldn't read much into our result, St. Kevin's were poor in my opinion and looked like a team that hadn't trained much together. Ballycastle knocked out Loughgiel who had a few all ireland winners in the team, surely they are favorites for the final? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 03, 2012, 11:27:47 AM
Your a bit harsh on St Kevins. Mebbe did'nt train together enough and mebbe not used to the focus that bein in a club like the Dall has right from underage. Some of those lads had v good skills and raised there game in the second half for a good while. How many of them Loughgeil boys are All Ireland winners? Thats a good one the Town are favourites because they beat a team that had AI winners  hahahaha Naw seriously the Dall looked a very very good side running off each other and reading the game well. I'd make them 5/6 point favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 03, 2012, 11:38:08 AM
 :D

The boy that does the reports on the county website agrees with me

Castle grind out win over Loughgiel in dour struggle
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3427

Cushendall impress in win over St Kevin's
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3426
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 03, 2012, 01:54:28 PM
Ballycastle played well. They deserved their win. cushendall haven't improved from last year. I'd fancy the town to win handy enough.good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 03, 2012, 03:22:31 PM
Cheers SIE. Ballycastle have some decent players like McAfee, Clarke, McCaughan, McGarry and McCurdy from the middle up and some hard working defenders too. Good to see Matty Donnelly back but looked like he needs a few games yet. The Dall has a good half forward line that will give our boys trouble and that boy Delargy takes some watchin too. Think mebbe the Dall just has the edge on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 03, 2012, 01:54:28 PM
Ballycastle played well. They deserved their win. cushendall haven't improved from last year. I'd fancy the town to win handy enough.good luck to them.

Would that Loughgiel under 21's have beat the Dall SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
MR2 I think the 2 best U-21 sides are in the final. To be honest Loughgiel didn't look interested on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2012, 12:05:25 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
MR2 I think the 2 best U-21 sides are in the final. To be honest Loughgiel didn't look interested on Saturday.

Was looking SIE to answer that but.........

Yeah should be a good final, any dates
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
I think the final is this Saturday. No time or venue mentioned yet. I know its 2 North Antrim teams but Casement would be great for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 04, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
I think the final is this Saturday. No time or venue mentioned yet. I know its 2 North Antrim teams but Casement would be great for the final.

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
O'Gara author=BlackandAmber link=topic=1347.msg1118012#msg1118012 date=1338834647]
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
I think the final is this Saturday. No time or venue mentioned yet. I know its 2 North Antrim teams but Casement would be great for the final.

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[/quote]Where then? Loughgiel? Glenariffe? Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 04, 2012, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
O'Gara author=BlackandAmber link=topic=1347.msg1118012#msg1118012 date=1338834647]
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 04, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
I think the final is this Saturday. No time or venue mentioned yet. I know its 2 North Antrim teams but Casement would be great for the final.

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Where then? Loughgiel? Glenariffe? Dunloy?
[/quote]

Any of those just keep it in North Antrim. Put it in Belfast and Loughgeil Dunloy Carey Armoy Cloughmills people stay at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 04, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
Think its only fair that the u21 game is played at a north antrim venue, will attract more fans and prob suit the players more and add to a better game all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 05, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
Looking at the article in the Irish news - why is the set up around Antrim or the players always a laughing stock for outsiders?
The whole thing is so amateur and child like.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 05, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
That is just ludicrous! What the hell was he thinking??? Leaving aside what he actually says he did (attempting to influence the referee/Sunday Game panel/whatever), what is he doing going to the press about it?? Explain to me how going to the press about it was ever a good idea?

And even more worring is the quote "The Antrim players dont know this because they left before I got a chance to speak to any of them that day".

WTF????????????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 05, 2012, 12:59:22 PM
Precisely cloot - the whole thing is a shambles! Like one childs story to explain another, then another and do on.
Embarrassing all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 01:09:28 PM
Just after reading this. He thinks he is defending himself but what will the bigwigs think of a county manager trying to suppress this story by approaching the ref, asking the Sunday Game to "lose the video" and Sunday Game pundits not to talk about it. The mind boggles.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2012, 01:27:04 PM
I don't read the IN, who said what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 05, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
Interview on the back page was with JW, who was attempting to defend himself over the Cormac Donnelly suspension incident, as pointed out above, he seemed to be digging even more holes for himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
U21 Final this Sat in Loughgiel - stop the  :'( now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 05, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
Interview on the back page was with JW, who was attempting to defend himself over the Cormac Donnelly suspension incident, as pointed out above, he seemed to be digging even more holes for himself.
Ah, ok. It would seem JW is in the death throes of his Antrim reign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
U21 Final this Sat in Loughgiel - stop the  :'( now!

Will be out anyways for dinner so will miss it. I'm curious though in that so many people would prefer the game in a North Antrim venue, is this purely for the fans/supporters? As a player I would always prefer to be playing finals at Casement, best pitch in Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 05, 2012, 02:19:38 PM
Could Wallis be gone before the Limerick/ Laois game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
U21 Final this Sat in Loughgiel - stop the  :'( now!

Will be out anyways for dinner so will miss it. I'm curious though in that so many people would prefer the game in a North Antrim venue, is this purely for the fans/supporters? As a player I would always prefer to be playing finals at Casement, best pitch in Antrim
It's on at 4.45. Manny's will still be open when you get back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2012, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
U21 Final this Sat in Loughgiel - stop the  :'( now!

Will be out anyways for dinner so will miss it. I'm curious though in that so many people would prefer the game in a North Antrim venue, is this purely for the fans/supporters? As a player I would always prefer to be playing finals at Casement, best pitch in Antrim
It's on at 4.45. Manny's will still be open when you get back.

Manny's wouldn't do, that be nice for you fat lads though :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 05, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 05, 2012, 01:31:05 PM
Interview on the back page was with JW, who was attempting to defend himself over the Cormac Donnelly suspension incident, as pointed out above, he seemed to be digging even more holes for himself.
Ah, ok. It would seem JW is in the death throes of his Antrim reign.

God SIE, its hard to come to any conclusion other than that. There goes another year  . . . .

Did the senior team go away this weekend? Did anyone show up to go away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 05, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 05, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
Looking at the article in the Irish news - why is the set up around Antrim or the players always a laughing stock for outsiders?
The whole thing is so amateur and child like.

the sound of a door not hittin Wallys aR$e on the way out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 05, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 05, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 05, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
Looking at the article in the Irish news - why is the set up around Antrim or the players always a laughing stock for outsiders?
The whole thing is so amateur and child like.

the sound of a door not hittin Wallys aR$e on the way out.

Hippy's tweet tells its own story!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 05, 2012, 07:54:59 PM
wally you tube   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJrEBtmM1Q
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on June 05, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
FFS it's not Jerry Wallace's fault Antrim have a shite hurling team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2012, 09:16:22 PM
Agh sure, it keeps us entertained until championship time comes around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2012, 09:30:47 PM
U21 final in Loughgiel this saturday at 4:45.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 06, 2012, 12:32:46 AM
Definitely not JW fault for Antrims poor season so far, although partly to blame. The worst factor is that I believe he is here for personal reasons to gain a greater understanding in to inter-county management that will benefit himself in the future, using Antrim as a stepping stone if you like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 06, 2012, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on June 05, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
FFS it's not Jerry Wallace's fault Antrim have a shite hurling team!

Wallace is'nt in the job long enough to be blamed for the state of Antrim hurling but the way its goin its not goin to improve with him.
with men leavin the playin squad and the management team and in the finish hes the manager and the buck stops there.
He screwed up the hippy business. what was he thinkin makin a  inexperienced young
fella a selector and then when the young fella acts like a player goin to the defense of a teammate
he cuts the feet from under him in the paper. And he even did it again yesterday.
Dunno if its true but I heard Hippy had to go to Croke on his own with no backin from Wallace or the county.
Thats not right even if Hippy made a mistake going on the pitch you could understand why.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 06, 2012, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2012, 09:30:47 PM
U21 final in Loughgiel this saturday at 4:45.

The Dall must be favourites but the Town has dug out two good results with Rossa and Loughgeil so the Town to win just about.

Div 1

Cushendall v Loughgeil
how many Dall boys will be palyin in the under 21 game? that could turn it for the Shams

Dunloy v Ballycastle
muust be 7 or 8 town boys on the under 21 team and Dunloy need the points. could be the difference but still the Town to win.

St Johns v Ballycran
Home game to give it to the Johnies

Portaferry v Ballygalget
close but Portaferry to nick it.

Div 2

TirNanOg v Glenarriff
Glenarriff

Lamh Dearg v Sarsfields
Lamh Dearg

Rossa v Carey
Rossa

St Galls v Gort na Mona
St Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2012, 01:02:23 PM
Agree with all black and amber except;

Sarsfields to beat lambs - Micko suspended too big a loss

Just beating Randalstown & Gort not enough to convince me of Rossa yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 06, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Div 1

Cushendall v Loughgiel - Loughgiel

Dunloy v Ballycastle - Dunloy

St Johns v Ballycran - Ballycran

Portaferry v Ballygalget - Ballygalget

Div 2

TirNanOg v Glenarriff - Glenarriff

Lamh Dearg v Sarsfields - Sars

Rossa v Carey - Rossa

St Galls v Gort na Mona - St Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 06, 2012, 02:03:23 PM
Cushendall V Loughgiel this Sunday is off, Loughgiel have their celebration dinner on Saturday night. However Cushendall are playing Loughgiel in the senior feis in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 06, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 06, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Div 1

Cushendall v Loughgiel - Loughgiel

Dunloy v Ballycastle - Dunloy

St Johns v Ballycran - Ballycran

Portaferry v Ballygalget - Ballygalget

Div 2

TirNanOg v Glenarriff - Glenarriff

Lamh Dearg v Sarsfields - Sars

Rossa v Carey - Rossa

St Galls v Gort na Mona - St Galls

Must be cement sunday in Portaferry with a 6.30 throw in.

Play's havoc with dinner time these matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
Would Hippy not have been suspended after the Westmeath game and considering the charge, (not sure what it was) would he have been allowed to play against Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
Hippy was not suspended immediately from after Westmeath game because his case was dealt with as a mentor - he is suspended from date of disciplinary meeting.

However the category of the offence was deemed serious enough that he is now suspended from club as well as county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2012, 02:59:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 06, 2012, 02:41:44 PM
Hippy was not suspended immediately from after Westmeath game because his case was dealt with as a mentor - he is suspended from date of disciplinary meeting.

However the category of the offence was deemed serious enough that he is now suspended from club as well as county.

Right, didn't know that rule. thought when someone was 'sent off' they would be suspended right away.

Every day a school day on the board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 06, 2012, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 06, 2012, 02:03:23 PM
Cushendall V Loughgiel this Sunday is off, Loughgiel have their celebration dinner on Saturday night. However Cushendall are playing Loughgiel in the senior feis in Dunloy.

Are Cushendall not playing the senior feis in Dunloy or Wednesday night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2012, 03:32:20 PM
It's tonight v Loughgiel in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RandyRogerCasement on June 06, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
Todays the day the teddybears have their picnic ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 06, 2012, 07:09:04 PM
hope some of you shams or ruairis will keep the site posted with scores. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2012, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 06, 2012, 07:09:04 PM
hope some of you shams or ruairis will keep the site posted with scores.

Won't be the same intensity in this game. Sunday's game would have had a bit more bite to it had it went ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
It was intense enough. shamrocks won by 2. 2-11 to 1-12. Both teams guilty of missing chances.  Loughgiel won the first half, cushendall the second.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 06, 2012, 09:23:05 PM
Loughgiel miss Watson,if only for free taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
It was intense enough. shamrocks won by 2. 2-11 to 1-12. Both teams guilty of missing chances.  Loughgiel won the first half, cushendall the second.

Any rested  ;) players?.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2012, 09:48:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
It was intense enough. shamrocks won by 2. 2-11 to 1-12. Both teams guilty of missing chances.  Loughgiel won the first half, cushendall the second.

Any rested  ;) players?.........
Well, Winker has a sore calf muscle, afaik. Tried Scully up in ff. He caught a couple of great balls early on but apart from that didn't really do much else. Moved him back into chb half way into the 2nd half as the Dall were dominating at that point. Shay got the 2 goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 06, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Decent game with a bit of bite in it too. We gave away 2 shocking goals, other than that nothing between the sides. On another point I thought Eamon Hasson had a decent game and deserves a bit of credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 06, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
How did county players do for the dall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on June 06, 2012, 11:20:16 PM
Neil played the way he plays every game......on his own. Would'nt pass to anyone. Fair enough game but say Loughgiel definately feeling better tonight. They are easily the team to beat and will take alot of beating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2012, 06:26:47 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on June 06, 2012, 11:20:16 PM
Neil played the way he plays every game......on his own. Would'nt pass to anyone. Fair enough game but say Loughgiel definately feeling better tonight. They are easily the team to beat and will take alot of beating.
I thought he'd little option at times, he scored a couple of great points in the second half. I'd play him at chb all the same.

We should only get sharper from here on in Tom. Training is starting soon. We missed a good free taker last night with the absence of winker. As one of our players said on facebook last night "In all my days hurlin I can safely say we have never played a match that we never scored 1 free in and won, holy moly as duck would say...".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 08, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
Jerry this is turning out to be a real circus

Stop now before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself

RTÉ chiefs say analysts were not contacted by Wallace
By Michael Moynihan

Friday, June 08, 2012

RTÉ bosses have asked pundits on The Sunday Game if inter-county managers are asking them to play down the seriousness of incidents in games following comments by Antrim senior hurling manager Jerry Wallace earlier in the week.

Wallace said last Monday he had contacted panellists on The Sunday Game last week to ask them to play down the seriousness of events in the Antrim-Westmeath Leinster SHC clash two weeks ago.

During that game Antrim player Cormac Donnelly, who was unavailable to play, was a maor foirne for the northern side but got involved with a Westmeath player, an incident for which he was later suspended for eight weeks.

Wallace told the Irish News earlier in the week: "On the day of the match I approached the RTÉ crew that were there for The Sunday Game and asked them could they lose that video but their director of sport had already got ahead of me and made sure they had it.

"I had met with Brian Carthy who had done commentary on the match for RTÉ. I rang three of the analysts who were working for The Sunday Game so that when it came up they would deflate it."

The Antrim boss also said he had asked match referee Anthony Stapleton to reconsider his match report.

However, the broadcaster has issued a statement rejecting those claims, stating: "RTÉ can confirm that none of The Sunday Game panellists on the programme featuring Antrim v Westmeath on the weekend of May 19/20 received any contact from Antrim Senior Hurling manager Jerry Wallace.

"In addition, none of the RTÉ Sport crew were approached regarding the footage from the game by Jerry Wallace as alleged.

"RTÉ is not aware of any county in the past contacting The Sunday Game panellists in an attempt to influence their opinions on our programming.

"Our editorial independence is of the upmost importance to us right across our sports coverage."

In recent years some observers have ascribed undue influence to the pundits on The Sunday Game, suggesting that some GAA disciplinary actions are based on what pundits focus on in the popular television programme.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
Lost for words...
ONLY IN ANTRIM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
So Dick and Sambo were right to leave?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 08, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2012, 11:31:22 AM
So Dick and Sambo were right to leave?

Dick yes,

Sambo definitely not   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 08, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
Wrap it up for the year and send thon header back down the fcukin road.

Do the players still not speak highly of Wallace?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 08, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
Wrap it up for the year and send thon header back down the fcukin road.

Do the players still not speak highly of Wallace?

As a coach I was led to believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 08, 2012, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
Lost for words...
ONLY IN ANTRIM.
Quote from: hardstation on June 08, 2012, 11:08:36 AM
Wrap it up for the year and send thon header back down the fcukin road.

Deary deary me... have to concur with the above reaction!
I actually burst out laughing at HS there.

No words to explain this - like a under 10 gettin caught out telling lies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 08, 2012, 01:41:31 PM
Not sure of the full story but could there not have been attempts made to keep Dinny Cahill on as manager and bring JW in as a coach at the end of last season, this worked great for us in 2010. Or was it a case of JW was on a power trip and wanted the job outright. Have spoke to players who backed up his coaching credentials, but also alluded to what was discussed on here regarding not listening to his selectors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 08, 2012, 04:49:10 PM
Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.
What were you thinking my son.

Last ounce of credibility gone.
Title: Imithe
Post by: drici on June 08, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 08, 2012, 04:49:10 PM

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.


Gone with immediate effect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on June 08, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
Deary me.

What's the world coming to lads.

She's couped !
Title: Re: Imithe
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: drici on June 08, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 08, 2012, 04:49:10 PM

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.


Gone with immediate effect.

For real???
Title: Cinnte
Post by: drici on June 08, 2012, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2012, 05:11:26 PM

For real???



Yep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2012, 05:18:16 PM
Resigned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 08, 2012, 05:21:59 PM
Who is the favourite to step in at this stage? Who would even want to!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 08, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 08, 2012, 05:23:05 PM
Good riddance. What an awful effort.

I'll say it again. Why is it that we shaft managers only to replace them with terrible ones?

I'll say it again also, I think everyone was delighted that he was appointed. You can't blame the County for some of the stuff that has happened.

Dick to come back in with Colly McFall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 08, 2012, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: the colonel on June 08, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 08, 2012, 05:23:05 PM
Good riddance. What an awful effort.

I'll say it again. Why is it that we shaft managers only to replace them with terrible ones?

I'll say it again also, I think everyone was delighted that he was appointed. You can't blame the County for some of the stuff that has happened.

Dick to come back in with Colly McFall?

I agree Colonel - everyone was delighted with the appointment at the time.

Who to step into the breach?

Jim Nelson?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2012, 05:30:00 PM
I'm busy :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 08, 2012, 05:36:08 PM
Jim could be ideal on a short term deal until the end of year (sounds very soccer like) but i'm sure he would get everyone playing for the one cause, which is what we need more than anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
If we are being honest it will be for one game!! Limerick showed against Tipp in the last match that they have done a great deal of work. Only for running out of steam late on they could have beaten Tipp. We couldn't beat Westmeath last day out, tells it's own story.

We'd need a game like we did against Dublin 2 years ago to make a game of it but I doubt it's in the locker.

Might head down, 4 hour trip?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
I dread to think whose waiting in the wings, will we be surprised. Thought JW was making the right noises, w/ Meath match aside. Still slightly confused as to what has went on!?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
I dread to think whose waiting in the wings, will we be surprised. Thought JW was making the right noises, w/ Meath match aside. Still slightly confused as to what has went on!?!

Most big county managers can influence the media down there, Jerry came from a cork background so he knows the score. one example is the derrydresk media slaughter a few months back. But to come out an tell all in the national press about it takes the biscuit. talk about putting yourself in a corner, just to justify his outburst on hippy and not going near the players after the match. I would say after the way he has handled this no county down there would touch him with a barge pole now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
This is embarassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on June 08, 2012, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 08, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
This is embarassing.

Position went to the mans head. I'm sure he's wont be making any more paper statements any time soon.

There is also another point to this. He has brought the GAA and RTE into disripute and if I'm correct in saying this is punishable under the rules of the association?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 08, 2012, 06:38:26 PM
No manager would touch antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2012, 06:42:36 PM
Jim is busy too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 08, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2012, 06:42:36 PM
Jim is busy too.



Babs would have the time.  :P

Jerry fooled judging panel regards the 21s that's how he got it over dinny.  Dinny more interested in the over 21s if u get my drift.  Not necessarily male either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
If previous 'potential suitors' cited other commitments for stepping aside from the back room setup, will we now see more statements being retracted?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 08, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
Who will want the Antrim job now ?. It's always been a thankless task working with  panel of players who never seemed to be fully committed for long.As I've always said more interest in club than county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2012, 09:46:15 PM
I know bushwacker but if u were a current senior club hurler the chances are u are going to get more out of club hurling than county - especially if u play for loughiel or cushendall. That's just a fact.

No chance Nelson would risk any reputation he might have for a drubbing off limerick. But would anyone else?

If sambo doesn't take it (the man can't resist the spotlight) then I am at a loss - maybe a salaried county coach coerced into it?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2012, 09:51:54 PM
Sambos commitment to the minors as he has stated rules him out...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2012, 11:07:22 PM
Anyone think a certain Mickey Johnston might land the job of his dreams by default?

Antrim no other option? He can't resist the opportunity?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 08, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Thankless job for sure,  but who ever it is IMO has to be an ex Antrim man with a bit of pride in the f**king jersey and sit the hole lot of them down and show them that the jersey is saffron and white.   no red/white no maroon/white or any other colours.   play for the f**king county and not themselves.   bit of drive and passion,   cause the shite that has went on since the national league finished is a total joke,   no matter who was or was not involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 08, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
What about PJ OMullan ? 3 trophies in the last 8 months ! Hard to beat that i would imagine. Roberto di Matteo comes close with 2 trophies in 4 months but he knows f**k all about hurling !

Not joking either, but as an avid follower of this thread, and antrim hurling, then there is more chance of Di Matteo getting the job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 08, 2012, 11:41:15 PM
For the rest of this season for a new manager it's a no lose situation. He is probably only gonna be in charge for 3 weeks. No-one will expect Antrim to get within 15-20 points of Limerick(you would think).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Young Gael on June 08, 2012, 11:50:47 PM
Sure you boys would be right. What would a Cork man or a Tipp man before him know about hurling. The amount of boys yous have to manage a county team, why listen to anyone else? All those Ulster championships under the belt, didn't get those without knowing something. Maybe yous could send some one down to Munster to help us along. Great county, such pride, what a tradition, what a role of honour. Yous are certainly going the right way about things there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Young Gael on June 08, 2012, 11:50:47 PM
Sure you boys would be right. What would a Cork man or a Tipp man before him know about hurling. The amount of boys yous have to manage a county team, why listen to anyone else? All those Ulster championships under the belt, didn't get those without knowing something. Maybe yous could send some one down to Munster to help us along. Great county, such pride, what a tradition, what a role of honour. Yous are certainly going the right way about things there.
How did your Munster club champions get on this year young gael?  We're doing some things right up here. ;)

Anyhow, I think the general consensus is that JW was a mistake. He made all the right noises but ultimately knew feck all about hurling in this county. I have to agree that the next manager should come from within, but not Sambo. The man causes division whether he means to or not. It's a tough one.

I can also categorically state that Pj is most definitely not interested in it at the minute. He's too busy with Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2012, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2012, 12:21:52 AM
Quote from: Young Gael on June 08, 2012, 11:50:47 PM
Sure you boys would be right. What would a Cork man or a Tipp man before him know about hurling. The amount of boys yous have to manage a county team, why listen to anyone else? All those Ulster championships under the belt, didn't get those without knowing something. Maybe yous could send some one down to Munster to help us along. Great county, such pride, what a tradition, what a role of honour. Yous are certainly going the right way about things there.
How did your Munster club champions get on this year young gael?  We're doing some things right up here. ;)

Anyhow, I think the general consensus is that JW was a mistake. He made all the right noises but ultimately knew feck all about hurling in this county. I have to agree that the next manager should come from within, but not Sambo. The man causes division whether he means to or not. It's a tough one.

I can also categorically state that Pj is most definitely not interested in it at the minute. He's too busy with Loughgiel.

Need to remember club hurling and County hurling are completly different. By that train of thought Loughgiel should play Limerick on the 1st!!

Antrim need to just see the year out, put in a great effort and see how we go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2012, 12:38:57 AM
Of course it is, but smart arses sometimes need put their place. At the end of the day it proves they're no different or better, individually, than our lot. Perhaps they have more numbers, that never stopped Galway in the past. Mentality is our major handicap, always was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Young Gael on June 09, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
And fair play to yous for having the club champions. But there's part of your problem. Who could tell Antrim anything about hurling. Catch yourself on. Sure you boys get your heads together and come up with a masterplan to win the all Ireland. And don't even think of listening to Brian Cody, sure those Kilkenny boys are like the Munster boys, know nothing about hurling. Of course if ye want ye could listen to them a bit so you have some one to blame when things go wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2012, 09:52:33 AM
Quote from: Young Gael on June 09, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
And fair play to yous for having the club champions. But there's part of your problem. Who could tell Antrim anything about hurling. Catch yourself on. Sure you boys get your heads together and come up with a masterplan to win the all Ireland. And don't even think of listening to Brian Cody, sure those Kilkenny boys are like the Munster boys, know nothing about hurling. Of course if ye want ye could listen to them a bit so you have some one to blame when things go wrong.

We all know how hurling should be played Young Gael, its working with the tools and materials that are available, that is the problem. Lads that don't buy into it has a major affect on the team. A good county squad should have 30 committed hurlers willing to head to all parts of Irleand for challenge games training weekends and whatever pre season training programme is given to them. they also need to look after themselves, meaning stop going on the lash every weekend or during the week while they are still in the Championship.

I could go on but when you have a committed team then you can introduce playing patterens and styles, but people need to buy into that. Being stuck up in the furtherest place from where hurling is strong doesn't help the club hurlers, which has a knock on effect with the county team. I could go on but......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Who rattled yer man's cage ?   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 09, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
He should maybe remove his email address  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 09, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Wallace has released his statement now - see hogan stand website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 09, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Wallace has released his statement now - see hogan stand website.

feel a bit bad for slating him after reading that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 09, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Wallace has released his statement now - see hogan stand website.

feel a bit bad for slating him after reading that

Good speak NAH, Jerry may have made an error of judgement with going public about speaking to RTE but nobody can doubt his commitment to Antrim since the start of the year. The players respected him but didn't follow through with the same commitment at times. Sure the next poor f**ker that takes them will find out the same. He is a handy scapegoat for the players performances this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2012, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 09, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Wallace has released his statement now - see hogan stand website.

feel a bit bad for slating him after reading that

Good speak NAH, Jerry may have made an error of judgement with going public about speaking to RTE but nobody can doubt his commitment to Antrim since the start of the year. The players respected him but didn't follow through with the same commitment at times. Sure the next poor f**ker that takes them will find out the same. He is a handy scapegoat for the players performances this year.

Imm  starting to wonder are rte here lying through there teeth. His statement adds up with the westmeath game. the manager hanley came on to the field to talk to the full back(probably to tell him that he wasn't giving Watson enough abuse) and winker went in to listen to them and he just started pushing Watson, that's when the  thing flared up. maybe he was looking for recordings of this. That's the real sickner about the hippy ban because Hanley was the first mentor to get physical. anyway JW didn't handle the whole thing well in the press subsequently he alienated one of his best players and left himself in no mans land. But our players have to take some responsibility to, I remember Dinny's first stint with the county, we ran tipp close the first year, would have chinned wexford the 2ND year only for the ref and the third year the players started dicking about. now we have a new generation of players since but same attitude. its not as if Brian Cody of Liam sheedy could come up here and do much better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Young Gael on June 09, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Well said hound and saffron gael
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2012, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Who rattled yer man's cage ?   :P

What happened
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: screenmachine on June 09, 2012, 02:12:44 PM
It certainly would have came out a lot better for Wallace if he had have said what he said in his latest statement initially.  There's a quare difference in saying you asked RTE to lose a tape compared to asking them did they record the full incident in which one of your players is abused by the opposing manager.  In hindsight he maybe would have been better saying nothing at all!

All in all it seems that Wallace was a good coach but terrible at handling the media and players/background staff.  Some people make great coaches but that's where they should leave it, take a good session and that's about all the input they need.  It's a much different role stepping up to be the top dog.  His heart seemed to be in the right place but he seemed to have a funny way of doing things and this ultimately came back to bite him in the ass.

My tuppence worth anyway...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 09, 2012, 02:35:20 PM
Who adds these idiotic footnotes after posts eg." I'm gonna punch you in ovary etc. etc." and what useful purpose do they serve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: screenmachine on June 09, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
I do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 09, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
Well good for you !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 09, 2012, 04:58:43 PM
Well good for you !!

for once bush I'm with you, that's a bit sick

as for the saffrons not the first time we where in freefall and wont be the last, we are always destined to hover just out or inside of the top ten. if theres one thing we can learn about loughgeil and apply it at county level its this. surround yourself with the right people from management to coach and gamplan etc, and if your a player shut up and put in the hard graft and listen. how said the constantly doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
I hear the U-21 final was a cracker, Ballycastle winning with a late point after being 5 down at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2012, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 09, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
I hear the U-21 final was a cracker, Ballycastle winning with a late point after being 5 down at half time.

Ballycastle 2-11  Cushendall 1 - 14

Town was 3 down at half time. Went 6 down during secnd half but got it back and 3 mins into injury time Clarke scored the winner.

V good game. The Dall will be disappointed they let it away. They played some great hurling but the Town stuck at it and as they say none of them desrved to lose really.

Town put Matty on Delargy that kept him fairly quite. Dall No 6 & No9 were v good and for the Town Clarke & McAfee showed too.

Terrific game.  Well done the Town. Hard luck to the Dall boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2012, 09:22:54 PM
Black and Amber - I thought it was 2-13 to 1-15 and that McGarry scored the winner?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2012, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 09, 2012, 09:22:54 PM
Black and Amber - I thought it was 2-13 to 1-15 and that McGarry scored the winner?

well i would'nt bet my life on th score and not on the scorer but I was pretty sure it was Clarke cos our No 14 missed two chances and then when who I thought was Clarke got open I was sure he;d score. Mebbe I got it wrong   :-\

County website has your scoreline all right ... scoreline I said is a draw!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2012, 11:27:39 PM
Dall have very bad U-21 record
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 09, 2012, 11:54:35 PM
For Antrim Hurling, see Derry football. A zillion talented players, who if given the choice between a club championship medal or a Liam McCarthy/Sam McGuire - well, there's always going to be one winner !

Woud Liam Watson or DD Quinn swap the homecoming they had on 18th March this year with Tommy Moore, for an open top bus parade on 10th sept his year on the falls road with Liam McCarthy ? Never in a million years !

From an outsider thats a pity, but being a former Derry club footaller - understandable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 09, 2012, 11:54:35 PM
For Antrim Hurling, see Derry football. A zillion talented players, who if given the choice between a club championship medal or a Liam McCarthy/Sam McGuire - well, there's always going to be one winner !

Woud Liam Watson or DD Quinn swap the homecoming they had on 18th March this year with Tommy Moore, for an open top bus parade on 10th sept his year on the falls road with Liam McCarthy ? Never in a million years !

From an outsider thats a pity, but being a former Derry club footaller - understandable
I think "a zillion" is an exaggeration and part of the problem. There just isn't enough strength in depth in the county to make any real inroads against the best. The top table hasn't been further away in 20 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:06:07 AM
It is very simple, our players aren't good enoug to compete with the top teams, they are the best we have no doubt, but not good enough at the highest level. Maybe not good enough at our Div2 level either going by Westmeath result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
you only need 20 in a given day Tony, Lougheil have nearly half of them a start ! the talent is there.

Obviously im an outsider who doesnt attend weekly matches, but am i totally wrong !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
you only need 20 in a given day Tony, Lougheil have nearly half of them a start ! the talent is there.

Obviously im an outsider who doesnt attend weekly matches, but am i totally wrong !!

Massive difference in club and inter county hurling Hoof.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
you only need 20 in a given day Tony, Lougheil have nearly half of them a start ! the talent is there.

Obviously im an outsider who doesnt attend weekly matches, but am i totally wrong !!

Massive difference in club and inter county hurling Hoof.

yes i know, but if clubs put differnces aside, then there is a chance. Eamonn coleman done it for us 19 years ago in football, so why couldnt the right man do it for Antrim in the next few years ?

Are antrim, man for man, that far behind ?  I dont think so. Im not talking a Liam here, but regular 1/4 and semi's have to be genuine goal !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:57:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
you only need 20 in a given day Tony, Lougheil have nearly half of them a start ! the talent is there.

Obviously im an outsider who doesnt attend weekly matches, but am i totally wrong !!

Massive difference in club and inter county hurling Hoof.

yes i know, but if clubs put differnces aside, then there is a chance. Eamonn coleman done it for us 19 years ago in football, so why couldnt the right man do it for Antrim in the next few years ?

Are antrim, man for man, that far behind ?  I dont think so. Im not talking a Liam here, but regular 1/4 and semi's have to be genuine goal !

I have never heard of club differences holding us back, it's an easy excuse. We just don't produce a high enough standard of player and that is down to the clubs. you will get the odd shock result but the results don't lie over the last 20 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2012, 01:35:58 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:57:06 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 10, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 10, 2012, 12:08:19 AM
you only need 20 in a given day Tony, Lougheil have nearly half of them a start ! the talent is there.

Obviously im an outsider who doesnt attend weekly matches, but am i totally wrong !!

Massive difference in club and inter county hurling Hoof.

yes i know, but if clubs put differnces aside, then there is a chance. Eamonn coleman done it for us 19 years ago in football, so why couldnt the right man do it for Antrim in the next few years ?

Are antrim, man for man, that far behind ?  I dont think so. Im not talking a Liam here, but regular 1/4 and semi's have to be genuine goal !

I have never heard of club differences holding us back, it's an easy excuse. We just don't produce a high enough standard of player and that is down to the clubs. you will get the odd shock result but the results don't lie over the last 20 years.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Well done Ballycastle winning the U-21. Fantastic game of hurling that went right down to the wire and could have went either way. 2 great teams played the game in a good spirit. The only comment I would disagree with was Matthew Donnelly keeping Dominic Delargy quite, Dom scored 1-3 from play, I thought he roasted Donnelly. Funny how opinions differ lol :) Ciaran Clarke was first class for Ballycastle, what a player he'd be for the town and Antrim if he stuck to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
Fully agree there's more to a antrims problems than the handy excuse of players not motivated for county. And fully agree we have never been further from the top table.

But I am not sure we can blame clubs for not producing players. The clubs have so little time with their players once they go to the county - and don't forget this is happen at such a young age with development squads now. So if the players produced are not good enough then it's not just the fault of hard working club volunteers - as opposed to salaried county officials.

Personally I think a massive failing is the removal of players to an exclusively county set up. This robs them of competitive clubs games in place of endless training after training which becomes robotic without the competitive edge. Also, it reduces the quality of the club scene left behind and therefore limits the amount of quality that can be produced to challenge for and enhance the existing county squad. And just think - this is actually happening at kids level now!

We constantly hear of big players involved in club games throughout the season down south (championship often runs right throughout year with groups etc) when our boys are wrapped in cotton wool with endless training routines while 90% of club games are rendered meaningless.

Fact is lads it is not working - if we keep doing things the same way we get the same results and all that. I personally think the likes of the loughiel boys can see this - so where is their best hope of success in hurling? Throw it all into a tommy Moore assault - and look what happened!
I applaud them for this - and I think cushendall have learned by copying this mantra.

No County is competing without a strong club scene.
Kilkenny cork tipp Galway now Dublin all play sustained meaningful club seasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 10, 2012, 09:50:25 AM
Was at the 21 game.  Big delargy had the upper hand 85% of the exchanges with Donnelly.  On reflection maybe more than that.  Some people need to take the blinkers off. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 10:33:01 AM
Safforn89 your right there but no complaints, Ballycastle were excellent, as were we. Great game and the win will bring Ballycastle on again at senior level. Its getting to the stage where I might throw a few quid on them for the championship. They are looking like a good outside bet. Right enough Dunloy might catch them today in the league with all the U-21's no doubt on the lash last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 10:33:01 AM
Safforn89 your right there but no complaints, Ballycastle were excellent, as were we. Great game and the win will bring Ballycastle on again at senior level. Its getting to the stage where I might throw a few quid on them for the championship. They are looking like a good outside bet. Right enough Dunloy might catch them today in the league with all the U-21's no doubt on the lash last night.

Aye think just with the effort of that game last night Dunloy will get them today. Think theres maybe 7 of those boys on the senior. About Donnelly and Delargy think Delargy scored 1-3 v St Kevins too but he set up loads of scores as well catching the ball and passin it off. I did'nt think he got doin that so much. Also that goal was super. Any team would be pleased with it. Some great movemnt and passin. Pulled the Town defense all over the place and big Delargy was smart enuff to know all he had to do was stand still.  As you say too for a tight game it was played right. Think there was one wee show of handbags but that was all. Lot of credit to both teams and referee when I think about it hardly seen him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Blackandamber the referee, was it Mc Grath from St. Galls? did have a good game, I could hear him talking to players, he was reasonable and didn't speak down to them or anything, he had a good game too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Blackandamber the referee, was it Mc Grath from St. Galls? did have a good game, I could hear him talking to players, he was reasonable and didn't speak down to them or anything, he had a good game too.

Aw jaysus does that mean MR will now be spoutin about gr8 refs from his club too. More n likely never refed a game before either!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2012, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Blackandamber the referee, was it Mc Grath from St. Galls? did have a good game, I could hear him talking to players, he was reasonable and didn't speak down to them or anything, he had a good game too.

Aw jaysus does that mean MR will now be spoutin about gr8 refs from his club too. More n likely never refed a game before either!  ;)

Only one good referee in Naomh Gall :o  Believe he had a blinder as the man in the middle on Friday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 10, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2012, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 10, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Blackandamber the referee, was it Mc Grath from St. Galls? did have a good game, I could hear him talking to players, he was reasonable and didn't speak down to them or anything, he had a good game too.

Aw jaysus does that mean MR will now be spoutin about gr8 refs from his club too. More n likely never refed a game before either!  ;)

Only one good referee in Naomh Gall :o  Believe he had a blinder as the man in the middle on Friday night

No complaints from me MR, mine would all be directed to our minors who were sh!te

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 11, 2012, 06:16:06 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08
That's more like the Dunloy we know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08

I was hopin I could of got to that game and nearly glad I missed it. Heared the Town was pretty poor even with the under 21s playin the night before. Dunloy played v well & the Town just could'nt match them. Fella that was at the game said if Dunloy was playin like that how have they lost there games. The under 21 final was a hard game and I thought Dunloy would mebbe catch them but did'nt think as much as 13 points   :(  Big defeat and hope Michael can lift them for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
Didnt get to any games over the weekend lads - the inlaws wedding was a wasted weekend. Ya know ya try to do the decent thing and the wife still cant be pleased!

Anyway - any reports from the games? What about the city teams?

Anyone hear any gossip regarding the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2012, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2012, 09:56:31 AM
Oisins given a scare by Randalstown. 2 points for win all that counts
Sarsfields beaten by Lamh Dhearg Big result for both sides
Rossa hack up against Carey
Next two games are massive for Rossa. 4 points puts them in with a fair shout.

I take it that means Gleanarrife and Galls - would love to see Rossa challenge but still dont see it. How are things post McCullough Hardstation?
Johnnies beaten handy.
Very dissappoiting no? Would have though this would have been a big match to traget for St Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2012, 10:35:24 AM
Dont think there was any other result other than Ballycran winning easy on the cards.
They would have been confident after putting a big score on Dunloy the week previous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 03:33:47 PM
Focusing on city teams performances over the weekend, first of all very disappointing that we did not have any teams involved in the u21 final, but congratulations to both teams on what sounded a superbly entertaining game.

In div 1 I fancied Ballycran to take the points in this game after some of their recent performances, however St Johns will be disappointed as this would have been a game set out at the start of the year to target a victory in.

Div 2 there was plenty of action for Belfast clubs. Surprised enough at the Lamh Dhearg and Sars result, would have fancied Sarsfields to continue their great start to the season. Rossa most definitely beginning to show closer to their real potential with a huge scoreline against Carey, if Rossa can get a win over St Galls next Sunday they will have huge momentum going into the game against Glenariffe which could end up being a league decider. Disappointing that I feel GNM are going to be the team that drop down this season, even more disappointing when we consider their potential a few years back. Sars also need to get back to winning ways as soon as possible or they could begin to slip down the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 11, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08

I was hopin I could of got to that game and nearly glad I missed it. Heared the Town was pretty poor even with the under 21s playin the night before. Dunloy played v well & the Town just could'nt match them. Fella that was at the game said if Dunloy was playin like that how have they lost there games. The under 21 final was a hard game and I thought Dunloy would mebbe catch them but did'nt think as much as 13 points   :(  Big defeat and hope Michael can lift them for championship.

From being at a couple of matches and feedback from a few friends in Ballycastle...is it not Joe Cassidy who is the main man?  Certainly appears that way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Jim Nelson on board with Frankie Quinn and Collie McFall, confirmed tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2012, 10:34:09 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Jim Nelson on board with Frankie Quinn and Collie McFall, confirmed tonight.

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2012, 10:38:25 PM
Ah come on MR2 give us what u think in English?

SiE what's your position on this one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 11, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Jim Nelson on board with Frankie Quinn and Collie McFall, confirmed tonight.

With all due respect I believe that to be bollocks  ;D (the jim nelson part anyway)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 11, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08

I was hopin I could of got to that game and nearly glad I missed it. Heared the Town was pretty poor even with the under 21s playin the night before. Dunloy played v well & the Town just could'nt match them. Fella that was at the game said if Dunloy was playin like that how have they lost there games. The under 21 final was a hard game and I thought Dunloy would mebbe catch them but did'nt think as much as 13 points   :(  Big defeat and hope Michael can lift them for championship.

From being at a couple of matches and feedback from a few friends in Ballycastle...is it not Joe Cassidy who is the main man?  Certainly appears that way?
Would be some outfit if they were taking hurling advice from a Derryman considering what they have on their doorstep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 11, 2012, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 11, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Jim Nelson on board with Frankie Quinn and Collie McFall, confirmed tonight.

With all due respect I believe that to be bollocks  ;D (the jim nelson part anyway)
It's on the county website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 11, 2012, 10:59:21 PM
He's helping out the backroom team in the interim. Good for Antrim I'd say. He'll still be about loughgiel though.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 11, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 11, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 11, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
Jim Nelson on board with Frankie Quinn and Collie McFall, confirmed tonight.

With all due respect I believe that to be bollocks  ;D (the jim nelson part anyway)

At least look at county website first...basic research. Tut tut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 08:15:25 AM
So protective of the Messiah up in those parts Glensman  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 12, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 11, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08

I was hopin I could of got to that game and nearly glad I missed it. Heared the Town was pretty poor even with the under 21s playin the night before. Dunloy played v well & the Town just could'nt match them. Fella that was at the game said if Dunloy was playin like that how have they lost there games. The under 21 final was a hard game and I thought Dunloy would mebbe catch them but did'nt think as much as 13 points   :(  Big defeat and hope Michael can lift them for championship.

From being at a couple of matches and feedback from a few friends in Ballycastle...is it not Joe Cassidy who is the main man?  Certainly appears that way?

Naw I think not. Michael McShane is manager and Joe Cassidy looks after the fitness as far as i know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 12, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 11, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2012, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
Big win for Dunloy tonight against Ballycastle, 3-15 to 1-08

I was hopin I could of got to that game and nearly glad I missed it. Heared the Town was pretty poor even with the under 21s playin the night before. Dunloy played v well & the Town just could'nt match them. Fella that was at the game said if Dunloy was playin like that how have they lost there games. The under 21 final was a hard game and I thought Dunloy would mebbe catch them but did'nt think as much as 13 points   :(  Big defeat and hope Michael can lift them for championship.

From being at a couple of matches and feedback from a few friends in Ballycastle...is it not Joe Cassidy who is the main man?  Certainly appears that way?
Would be some outfit if they were taking hurling advice from a Derryman considering what they have on their doorstep.

Its hard to be a prophet in your home town Tony.

From what I saw down in Ballygalget, Cassidy was far more than a fitness man and certainly a lot more vocal than McShane.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Technically is that not now two Derry men in charge of the town?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 01:04:47 PM
Re: Jim Nelson. He's helping out for a couple of Weeks until after the Limerick game then returning to Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 12, 2012, 01:35:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Technically is that not now two Derry men in charge of the town?
Aye I think he lives out Maghera direction these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2012, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 01:04:47 PM
Re: Jim Nelson. He's helping out for a couple of Weeks until after the Limerick game then returning to Loughgiel.

And when we beat Limerick?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 02:25:46 PM
Sure he will be drafting the rest of the LG team and reserves in, to bolster the chances, we could be in for a long summer boys, have to cancel the holiday for mid September  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 03:02:54 PM
SiE have you any idea if there will be an influx of Shamrocks under Nelson?

Mr2 - I suppose as usual you will tell us Galls have no team again this weekend for Rossa!!!!!
Should think home advantage be enough especially with Rossa not having great time of it only finding their feet.

Glenarrife to have enough at Carey.
Sarsfields back to winning ways V Randalstown hopefully.
Lamh Dearg to pick up point over Gort.

In Div1 (like the way I put in second priority I am so sad)
Wins for Shamrocks and the Town.
Hopefully the Johnnies pick up some points also another chance V Down team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 03:02:54 PM
SiE have you any idea if there will be an influx of Shamrocks under Nelson?

Mr2 - I suppose as usual you will tell us Galls have no team again this weekend for Rossa!!!!!
Should think home advantage be enough especially with Rossa not having great time of it only finding their feet.

Glenarrife to have enough at Carey.
Sarsfields back to winning ways V Randalstown hopefully.
Lamh Dearg to pick up point over Gort.

In Div1 (like the way I put in second priority I am so sad)
Wins for Shamrocks and the Town.
Hopefully the Johnnies pick up some points also another chance V Down team?

We have 2 games this weekend, Gorts on Friday and Rossa on Sunday, I'll take 3 from 4 points in these games, if we are lucky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 03:26:03 PM
Agh lads, sure how would I know that?     ;D

Let's put it like this, I wouldn't be surprised if a few more turn out, and a few different ones from other clubs as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2012, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2012, 03:19:45 PM
Huge game for the Johnnies this week. If they're beat, they'll probably find themseves bottom very soon and tough games ahead.

Huge games for Rossa & St. Galls on Sunday too. Despite the tanking they gave us in the 1st game, it's still very nip tuck IMO.

Aye be a different game than the first game for sure. Rossa have a bit of a run going at the minute so it should be tighter, we have to bounce back or we will not get promoted. Will be very nervy and I'd say a right few challenges going in so be a great match for the neutral
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 03:26:03 PM
Agh lads, sure how would I know that?     ;D

Let's put it like this, I wouldn't be surprised if a few more turn out, and a few different ones from other clubs as well.

What player in their right mind would join a 6 month old set up?
Dont see how anyone would be interested in that.

Who would you be putting forward from LG SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 03:57:49 PM
I'm notsure what you mean by a 6 month set up. As for the players, Scully, Joey and Johnny would be a good start.Perhaps bring in Shay for cover, the fella has been playing out of his skin lately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 12, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
Only a puck of the ball between rossa and st galls and I guess it'll be no different come the final whistle on Sunday. Despite teh scoreline in the first match it was no tanking, as galls scored 3 softish goals, momentum is witrh rossa at teh minute and with karl and mackers still injured galls will struggle for scores so galls will certainly be glad of a point on sunday. All to play for still for all teams....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 03:57:49 PM
I'm notsure what you mean by a 6 month set up. As for the players, Scully, Joey and Johnny would be a good start.Perhaps bring in Shay for cover, the fella has been playing out of his skin lately.

Do you think at the moment that scully is better than NMcM? Joey better than SMcN, LW or EMcC?

Must be getting near silly season again SIE red tinted glasses maybe have come off since Paddys day  ;)

6 month set up as in the squad have been training for 6 months together as a squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
He's been our most consistent player over the last 2 years on a successful club team. Again, perhaps nmcm should keep his place with Scully as cover, as long as he learns how to pass the ball of course.. As for the 6 month set up, was hardly that impressive last day out. Joey would fit in quite well in the half forwards, where he plays for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 05:51:41 PM
I think it's safe to say Karl & mackers will play on Sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 12, 2012, 05:59:51 PM
I think you could find a place on the county team for Martin Scullion and Johnny Campbell alright, not sure about Joey all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2012, 06:03:04 PM
Its hypothetical anyway.who knows who'll he select?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 12, 2012, 06:20:02 PM
You loughgiel boys will maybe know better than the rest of us ;) I'd be happy if we could get Martin Scullion and Campbell back into the team, frees Neil up to move forward and gives better all round cover while we are missing Hippy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 12, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
neither played against sarsfields apart from karls last ten minute appearance. He really shouldn't have though and shouldn't be playing at all and neither have fully recovered. I hope for our sake they both play but at this stage I doubt it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 09:38:32 PM
Manandball - mr2 has taught you well! Poor st galls never have any players available then comes along the most magic of sponges for the game!
You should lend it to Jim Nelson he might get the 89 team back playing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 12, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
Seems to be generating a lot of focus this city derby on Sunday, I was up at the first one where St Galls with their goals tore Rossa apart, however, if what is being touted on here is true that Karl Stewart and the boy Mackers are out, who were arguably St Galls best two players that night, I would have Rossa as favorites for the game on Sunday. Is that the general consensus?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
Karl & mackers both to play - and galls to win.

Rossa's couple of wins over lesser teams doesn't convince me they are back competing with top teams since their early troubles. No Hamill or close playing HS?

Lamh dearg and the paddies could with getting back on track also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 12, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
What I'm saying is not without foundation. Neither have played in the last few games for st galls yet both were on the sideline. Neither has played football either. Karl didn't play for county. Not about poor st galls. That's the facts. We have players available alright but just at the minute those 2 aren't although I hope for our sake they are. Whether they are or not you can be guaranteed we will give it a lash anyway. And MR2 never taught me anything in his life, more the other way round:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2012, 01:06:47 AM
Could be correct but Carey had been going pretty well and would have fancied their chances v Rossa. I would have had St Galls as favorites for this one a few weeks ago, but a couple of wins for Rossa and a loss for St Galls recently may have changed that. Suppose these games come down to player availability and which team can get closest to their strongest team should take the points. Wouldn't be surprised to see a draw also. Rossa have Glenariffe and Lamh Dhearg in quick succession after Sunday so the league table well tell a much clearer picture in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 13, 2012, 09:01:44 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Technically is that not now two Derry men in charge of the town?


Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 12, 2012, 01:35:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Technically is that not now two Derry men in charge of the town?
Aye I think he lives out Maghera direction these days.

Is that MMcS you mean that lives there? hahaha  if that makes him a Derry man JC is an Antrim man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
Blackandamber I thought he (JC) was a Loughgiel man  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
He's an honorary loughgiel man anyway. What a great honour for him.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
Karl & mackers both to play - and galls to win.

Rossa's couple of wins over lesser teams doesn't convince me they are back competing with top teams since their early troubles. No Hamill or close playing HS?

Lamh dearg and the paddies could with getting back on track also.

Glenariffe are top so they are favourites to win the league. We will try and win on Friday night first and worry about Rossa on Sunday. Must say btdtgtt you are very interested in Belfast club hurling, it's great to have neutrals out there who mad keen on Belfast hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 13, 2012, 11:02:30 AM
Why have you put 'mackers' in bold but not commented on him?

Was going to say his older brother 'Mackers' has a better chance to play on Sunday :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2012, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
He's an honorary loughgiel man anyway. What a great honour for him.  ;)

is feis cup on tonight dunloy v shamrocks could you post updates as i have to work,i can use my phone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
Jaysus boys, isn't it wonderful the things you hear. Apparently JW hasn't totally left the Antrim set up. He'll be training the players but will have no control over panel selection or team selection, that'll be JN's job. What do we think of that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2012, 01:20:52 PM
Farce
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2012, 01:21:16 PM
Unless this has been an arrangement agreed on since his resignation last week, if true I think it turns the situation in to an even bigger farce, if that is possible. Come on Antrim, do things right for once.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 13, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
That older mackers didn't realise his full potential did he MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 13, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
That older mackers didn't realise his full potential did he MR2?

Na, he didn't. Plagued with injuries, fly in the eye, and stingy gel in the eye, often had him out for weeks :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 13, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
Karl & mackers both to play - and galls to win.

Rossa's couple of wins over lesser teams doesn't convince me they are back competing with top teams since their early troubles. No Hamill or close playing HS?

Lamh dearg and the paddies could with getting back on track also.

Glenariffe are top so they are favourites to win the league. We will try and win on Friday night first and worry about Rossa on Sunday. Must say btdtgtt you are very interested in Belfast club hurling, it's great to have neutrals out there who mad keen on Belfast hurling

Very much so! To be honest I have family members at a few city clubs hence the interest. Not club jumpers mind you - they all play for the teams of their fathers - the hot-pot that is Belfast.
Also, I am sure there are plenty of Glensmen to disagree but I always think Antrim do well when we have a strong Belfast representation.
Ach sure while I am at it - what about reigniting a Belfast comptetion like the Gleans have the Feis!

I will be in Milltown on Sunday anyway - easily the pick of the fixtures in both leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 02:29:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
Karl & mackers both to play - and galls to win.

Rossa's couple of wins over lesser teams doesn't convince me they are back competing with top teams since their early troubles. No Hamill or close playing HS?

Lamh dearg and the paddies could with getting back on track also.

Glenariffe are top so they are favourites to win the league. We will try and win on Friday night first and worry about Rossa on Sunday. Must say btdtgtt you are very interested in Belfast club hurling, it's great to have neutrals out there who mad keen on Belfast hurling

Very much so! To be honest I have family members at a few city clubs hence the interest. Not club jumpers mind you - they all play for the teams of their fathers - the hot-pot that is Belfast.
Also, I am sure there are plenty of Glensmen to disagree but I always think Antrim do well when we have a strong Belfast representation.
Ach sure while I am at it - what about reigniting a Belfast comptetion like the Gleans have the Feis!

I will be in Milltown on Sunday anyway - easily the pick of the fixtures in both leagues.

Well we used to have a tournament played at Casement a right few years ago, 11 aside games if I remember well. Played over the July holidays. Chances of it happening again are slim if truth be told.

Strange going ons in the Antrim Hurling set up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
This has got to be a wind up about JW new role!

If true - the most embarassing scenario since the first goal in the 91 semi v Kilkenny!

deary deary me, who thinks this stuff up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2012, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 13, 2012, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
This has got to be a wind up about JW new role!

If true - the most embarassing scenario since the first goal in the 91 semi v Kilkenny!

deary deary me, who thinks this stuff up!
Eamon Morrissey leaving big Rogie in his wake and sending it into the corner.

He went on to play for Dublin for a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on June 13, 2012, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
This has got to be a wind up about JW new role!

If true - the most embarassing scenario since the first goal in the 91 semi v Kilkenny!

deary deary me, who thinks this stuff up!

There is no way this could be true.Even by Antrim's standards that would be beyond mental
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on June 13, 2012, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
This has got to be a wind up about JW new role!

If true - the most embarassing scenario since the first goal in the 91 semi v Kilkenny!

deary deary me, who thinks this stuff up!

There is no way this could be true.Even by Antrim's standards that would be beyond mental
you're in for a shock then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 13, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
JW new role?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 13, 2012, 06:15:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2012, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
He's an honorary loughgiel man anyway. What a great honour for him.  ;)

is feis cup on tonight dunloy v shamrocks could you post updates as i have to work,i can use my phone
I don't think that's until 1st July. Afaik we're playing the Antrim u21s in a challenge match this evening.

Loughgiel v Dunloy tonight at 8pm in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 13, 2012, 06:15:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2012, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 10:29:56 AM
He's an honorary loughgiel man anyway. What a great honour for him.  ;)

is feis cup on tonight dunloy v shamrocks could you post updates as i have to work,i can use my phone
I don't think that's until 1st July. Afaik we're playing the Antrim u21s in a challenge match this evening.

Loughgiel v Dunloy tonight at 8pm in Ballycastle.
are you going pdiddy? Can't make it tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 08:39:36 PM
Near half time in the feis cup. 7-5 to loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 08:47:19 PM
8-5. Ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
10-5 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
0-11 to 1-7 to Shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2012, 09:23:42 PM
2-15 to 1-9 to shams now, only a top 2 now ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2012, 09:26:18 PM
Ft  2-16 - 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 13, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
Didn't think there was any doubt it was just a top2. Next team to challenge will be ballycastle in few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 13, 2012, 10:43:53 PM
Just back from the game SIE, you didn't miss much. Not as good a game as the quarter final against Cushendall but a wins a win and it gets us another competitive game in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2012, 06:13:53 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 13, 2012, 10:43:53 PM
Just back from the game SIE, you didn't miss much. Not as good a game as the quarter final against Cushendall but a wins a win and it gets us another competitive game in the final.
Good stuff P. So it's Glenariffe or Ballycastle in the final on 1st July.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
Observations from last night.

Loughgiel held possession and looked to take the right option under pressure everytime. They look used to hurling at that level and their stickwork and off the ball running can handle it and they don't panic when they're crowded. Our effort couldn't be faulted (as you would expect) but our stickwork, team play and composure needs to come up a fair bit as it was just not at the same level (bar some very notable exceptions) as Lg. Id say our touch let us down easily 5 times more than lg. With those type of stats never mind the important team play aspect you're always going to come out second best. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 14, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 13, 2012, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 13, 2012, 02:52:13 PM
This has got to be a wind up about JW new role!

If true - the most embarassing scenario since the first goal in the 91 semi v Kilkenny!

deary deary me, who thinks this stuff up!
Eamon Morrissey leaving big Rogie in his wake and sending it into the corner.

Thats the one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2_4fgBe2w
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 14, 2012, 12:41:33 PM
Friendly v Wexford tomorrow night in Dublin somewhere - previously arranged by JW but still going ahead i hear.  Wonder will any new faces appear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
The friendly is going ahead as planned. I can't imagine there'll be any new faces at this early stage of the new managerial set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 15, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
reckon there could be around 200 to 250 max at the Ulster Hurling Final this year.  maybe we should build the new stadium for 50,000.  Wee Jim will no doubt be getting a handsome handshake from the county. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 15, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Have to agree saffron. There will be more opposition supporters than antrim supporters. I'll be there though, maybe only at half time though ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on June 15, 2012, 10:51:41 PM
That bollocks Wallace never left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clinker on June 16, 2012, 01:14:15 AM
Wexford 2.15 Antrim 2.13
Jerry has them fit enough but unlucky in the friendly match in Rush in Fingal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 16, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: Clinker on June 16, 2012, 01:14:15 AM
Wexford 2.15 Antrim 2.13
Jerry has them fit enough but unlucky in the friendly match in Rush in Fingal.

Any line out, Clinker??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Isn't Wallace noted for his training of players rather than his tactical knowledge or general hurling knowledge? This arrangement could maybe work especially with 4 or 5 new faces joining the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
Lads help me out here - what is Wallace role?

Anyone know the team that lined out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Wallace is fitness coach.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 16, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Don't see what the big problem is.  Is ge not generally regarded as one of the best coaches in Ireland, surely it's a good thing to retain those services and improve the managerial side of things.

What sort of team lined out against Wexford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
No winker, Stewart or McGourty. Eddie and NmcN were taken off as a precaution. apart from that it was pretty much the same as normal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Galls men were playing v Gort no? Didn't notice result?

That Wallace thing is just weird!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 16, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Don't see what the big problem is.  Is ge not generally regarded as one of the best coaches in Ireland, surely it's a good thing to retain those services and improve the managerial side of things.

What sort of team lined out against Wexford
I agree with you max. It might just work out alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Galls men were playing v Gort no? Didn't notice result?

That Wallace thing is just weird!!

We didn't play Gorts, Karl and Keiran both injured. But don't take my word for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 16, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Galls men were playing v Gort no? Didn't notice result?

That Wallace thing is just weird!!

We didn't play Gorts, Karl and Keiran both injured. But don't take my word for it

So you were successful in getting those insider secrets from Loughgiel on how to get games put off ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2012, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: aontroim on June 16, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Galls men were playing v Gort no? Didn't notice result?

That Wallace thing is just weird!!

We didn't play Gorts, Karl and Keiran both injured. But don't take my word for it

So you were successful in getting those insider secrets from Loughgiel on how to get games put off ;)

Don't talk, it was Gorts looking it off!!! Rossa tomorrow, bed early tonight, will be a hot tempered affair me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2012, 07:57:17 PM
Rossa won't let us settle on the ball like they did last time. Will be tight and will always have a bitta niggle. Rossa won't want to lose to us again. With Aidan and Shannon on board they won't lack fight.

You think it won't be hot tempered?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
Looking forward to the game.

Galls missing just about everyone the miraculous recovery at 2:59pm!!
Rossa minus hamil and close.

I think goals are the key here - whoever gets them will win. 

Hopefully weather won't ruin it.
Tight game but I will go for galls particularly with home advantage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
I see on hoganstand that they're saying that Wallace is becoming a team selector. I can assure you that he isn't. Jim Nelson is 100% in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 17, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
I see on hoganstand that they're saying that Wallace is becoming a team selector. I can assure you that he isn't. Jim Nelson is 100% in charge.

He could still be a selector and Nelson be "100% in charge", the same way Sambo and Dick were selectors and Wallace was in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 17, 2012, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
I see on hoganstand that they're saying that Wallace is becoming a team selector. I can assure you that he isn't. Jim Nelson is 100% in charge.

He could still be a selector and Nelson be "100% in charge", the same way Sambo and Dick were selectors and Wallace was in charge.
I know, he isn't though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 03:58:22 PM
15-7 up at half time against ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 05:10:47 PM
Ft. Ballycran 2-08 shamrocks 1-25. No winker, Skinner or Ronan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2012, 05:26:48 PM
Well first off I would have to say its was a poor standard at milltown. Pitch didn't look great but generally first touches all over the place.

I agree hardstation Rossa shooting was shocking particularly in first half - perhaps ur umpire might have been better playing instead of talking? bell was excellent in full back and close made a difference when brought on.
Couple of galls goals looked enough but Rossa just pegged enough on in the 2nd half.
I thought Kieran mc gourty was grand and Gallagher didn't deserve to be on losing side. Think galls will be angry at losing especially missing the frees at the end.

All in all I come away thinking Glenarrife to go up.

Mr2 - how will 2 defeats affect ur dual players hurling commitments?

Hardstation - interesting how 2 old faithfuls on line have turned round from McCullough?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
What happened between the town and portaferry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 17, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Antrim Chairman Jim Murray has confirmed that Jerry Wallace has re joined the Antrim hurling management team in a selector role. Jerry was on the sideline last Friday when Antrim played out a 2.16 to 2.14 defeat to Wexford in a challenge match.

Jim Murray said,

"We were disappointed when Jerry resigned last week, he brought a lot to the Antrim set up since January. When he made himself available to Jim and the managerial set up the response was very positive. Jerry knows the players very well and it would be foolish not to capitalise on the that insight and experience.

"You can probably say that we have travelled a strange road over the last ten days or so, but the end result is a managerial team, led by Jim Nelson, which is totally focussed on the upcoming games.

"The draw for the football qualifiers is tomorrow morning and we will know then what games our senior teams have coming up. I urge everyone to get behind the teams now and show your support for Antrim over the coming weeks. Both squads are training at full tilt and they deserve support."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 17, 2012, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 17, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
Johnnies in big trouble.
Why? Lost away to Ballygalget?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 17, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
What happened between the town and portaferry?

Hearing 2 Dallat twins sent off along with most of Bcastles management team before someone attacked ref (O'Reilly) and game abandoned?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 17, 2012, 04:45:36 PM
We won by a point. Made hard work of it. Hit a bucketful of wides.

Half time lead flatered us, Rossa missed, I'd say in the first half 12 frees!! Should have been six up instead, we were. Fair play Rossa coming back into the game and winning.

btdtgtt, how did Mackers and Stewarty play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 17, 2012, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on June 17, 2012, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 17, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
Johnnies in big trouble.
Why? Lost away to Ballygalget?
Aye. That's them bottom with some very difficult games coming up. Hard to see them getting many more points.

WTF are Ballycastle at?

Poor Terry!!!! Hope he wasn't hurt!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
Glenariffe slaughtering Carey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2012, 08:24:22 PM
Yip mr2 they were missed - I think if Karl plays galls win.

Hopefully ur boys keep the push on - Gallagher much more than just Atheletes I was impressed by his hurling. Would be addition for Nelson?

What's story with ballycastle anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 17, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
What happened between the town and portaferry?

Hearing 2 Dallat twins sent off along with most of Bcastles management team before someone attacked ref (O'Reilly) and game abandoned?
Cormac Donnelly not impressed, according to his tweets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2012, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 17, 2012, 08:24:22 PM
Yip mr2 they were missed - I think if Karl plays galls win.

Hopefully ur boys keep the push on - Gallagher much more than just Atheletes I was impressed by his hurling. Would be addition for Nelson?

What's story with ballycastle anyone?

Aidso went to the trials at the start of the season and was keen to make an impression, but Baker give him the captains armband!!

Karl out, needs rested. Mackers in same boat. Even playing bad today we could have stole it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on June 17, 2012, 11:45:57 PM
You really are lacking a forward milltown. Rossa should have won at a canter with the amount of wides they hit. Galls defense was impressive in the second half- could half been more. Shannon, armstrong, kmcg, aidso, rossa 10 and galls 8 the stand out players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 17, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
so jerry a selector, good to see, he is a good man to have about the set up, just not a no 1.  Hopefully that sly oul fox Jim will handle press.

Don't think the Glenariffe Juggernaut is going to be stopped.  Though they may have that yo yo effect.  Unless the ards teams keep going backwards as they have been.

Interesting news coming out of Ballycastle.  Discipline seems to be a real issue.  If the news is to be believed there could be quite serious ramifications for the club.  Might give Super Dessie the chance to go down the appeal routes again.

All this when the shams are still beating everyone with out everyone.  What a set up.

good weekend of sport.  Enjoyable seeing / hearing Davy fitz on the sideline.  Plenty of knackers on both sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on June 18, 2012, 12:02:45 AM
Tbh wasn't impressed with jk hs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2012, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 17, 2012, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
What happened between the town and portaferry?

Hearing 2 Dallat twins sent off along with most of Bcastles management team before someone attacked ref (O'Reilly) and game abandoned?
Cormac Donnelly not impressed, according to his tweets.

Ports were adamant they've the points in the bag after a Ballycastle player refused to leave the field when shown a straight red. Ref abandoned game, but the lad I was talking to never mentioned anyone attacking him.


We were lucky vrs the Johnnies and won by 2 points in the end, only had a good spell 10 minutes before half time where we got a goal and a few points to take a three point lead. The johnnies had played all the hurling up until that point. Second half was pretty much point for point, and even a bit of dodgy umpiring from Mr Heenan couldn't convince the referee otherwise.

Still think we're in the mire and will need points in Corrigan to stay up and that will need a vastly improved performance to happen.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
Apparently 5 more loughgiel players are being called up to the Antrim panel. Scully, Joey, Neilly, Johnny and James Campbell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 18, 2012, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
Apparently 5 more loughgiel players are being called up to the Antrim panel. Scully, Joey, Neilly, Johnny and James Campbell.

In that case I fully expect Antrim to be in the All Ireland final in September.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on June 18, 2012, 09:14:33 AM

Maybe I'm being overly critical. I was paying particular attention to him seeing he started recently for the county and I hadn't heard much about him before then. Glenarriffe up, Johnnies down then? I have a feeling that could be a regular occurrence.

SiE I think MS and JC would be a good call for the current county panel. Not too sure about the rest though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on June 18, 2012, 09:19:26 AM
Thought Joey was unavailable because of work/college?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
Quote from: Move er on on June 18, 2012, 09:14:33 AM

Maybe I'm being overly critical. I was paying particular attention to him seeing he started recently for the county and I hadn't heard much about him before then. Glenarriffe up, Johnnies down then? I have a feeling that could be a regular occurrence.

SiE I think MS and JC would be a good call for the current county panel. Not too sure about the rest though.

I haven't seen a better out and out fullback in Antrim than Neil McGarry, so I'd say he's well worth a shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2012, 09:34:03 AM
With St Johns only a point behing Ballygalget & Ballycran I dont see their relegation as definite at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 18, 2012, 09:38:18 AM
It will be intresting to see if there are any new additions to the squad.

Being Honest I cant see it as the next game is only a few weeks away would any new additions be up to speed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: oisinog on June 18, 2012, 09:38:18 AM
It will be intresting to see if there are any new additions to the squad.

Being Honest I cant see it as the next game is only a few weeks away would any new additions be up to speed.

Seriously?
Read up! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 18, 2012, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: oisinog on June 18, 2012, 09:38:18 AM
It will be intresting to see if there are any new additions to the squad.

Being Honest I cant see it as the next game is only a few weeks away would any new additions be up to speed.

Seriously?
Read up! :o

Where can I read this up other than here. Any speculation here can be taken with a pinch of salt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
No? One of a few players whose 1st touch didn't let him down and striking was solid.

Milltown row* is in a bit of a state too.

*Not the poster but that may be true as well.

Pitch is crap though considering the rain lately it wasn't too bad. My state is fine ;)

That's the league over for us. Poor enough game on reflection, not a lot of hurling and both defences were strong. No scoring forwards on either team yesterday.

With Burkey, Karl and Mackers not playing yesterday it really puts us up against it. Our subs are very young and not much first team experience but they are getting more games and improving. Hopefully our injuries clear up before Championship. I doubt Karl's will but sure.

We'd about 6/7 players that played really well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 18, 2012, 11:45:17 AM
Saffrongael.....you're sarcasm is noted,but they'll make no more of hash of it than the present lot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
No? One of a few players whose 1st touch didn't let him down and striking was solid.

Milltown row* is in a bit of a state too.

*Not the poster but that may be true as well.

Pitch is crap though considering the rain lately it wasn't too bad. My state is fine ;)

That's the league over for us. Poor enough game on reflection, not a lot of hurling and both defences were strong. No scoring forwards on either team yesterday.

With Burkey, Karl and Mackers not playing yesterday it really puts us up against it. Our subs are very young and not much first team experience but they are getting more games and improving. Hopefully our injuries clear up before Championship. I doubt Karl's will but sure.

We'd about 6/7 players that played really well

I really dont think so MR2!

Its easy to get down after a couple of losses but this league has so many banana skins - points will be dropped!
I checked the Antrim website there and Glenariffe have a run of fixtures against Rossa, and away to Sarsfields & Lamh Dearg so maybe the city boys can help each other out. If Galls win the rest of your games you will win the league so its still there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 18, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
If these Loughgiel lads come on board now you'd have to ask why they didn't commit before now? If they are coming out of loyalty to Jim Nelson they might as well stay at home, you either want to hurl for the county or you don't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 01:23:38 PM
Neilly and James weren't selected previously. Johnny and Joey went up to the training a couple of times and were less than impressed with a certain individual within the then set up. That's no longer an issue. Marty couldn't commit previously, he can now. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 18, 2012, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 18, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
If these Loughgiel lads come on board now you'd have to ask why they didn't commit before now? If they are coming out of loyalty to Jim Nelson they might as well stay at home, you either want to hurl for the county or you don't.

Excellent point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 18, 2012, 01:29:39 PM
On the topic of county call ups for the Loughgiel lads, we should be happy to have our strongest players available, this is not normally the case. However after this season, and like most other seasons, these players who are huge rivals at club level will simply not hurl collectively together. It's a shame really because until that happens we will never know our true ability. Seems to have been an interesting weekend on the club scene, St Johns really beginning to struggle in Div 1, need to start combining decent performances with points. In Div 2 Glenariffe continuing to win hand enough, Rossa really beginning to pick up points and grinding out results, four wins in a row. Can see that one being a two horse race and the title being decided on their head to heads. Sarsfields still hanging in there also, hopefully St Galls stick together and pick up a few wins immediately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2012, 02:01:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 08:42:52 AM
Apparently 5 more loughgiel players are being called up to the Antrim panel. Scully, Joey, Neill, Johnny and James Campbell.

Neil MC Garry the only player on this list that can cut it at this level, watched him in the feis cup v cushendall and was impressed how good he is going compared to two years ago. maybe johnny to if age and injury hasn't effected his pace. joey and martin have had stints in the pass and haven't impressed. why are they putting there names forward now, typical antrim stuff I'm only going to play on my own conditions including management,selectors etc. the best club hurler Ive seen during the league that's not in the antrim panel is Sean delargy. hes playing really well but i don't how he would go against a limerick forward at county level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 18, 2012, 02:14:16 PM
Jim should be careful here, I have a fuzzy memory of S Elliotts stint in the job when Dunloy were flying, he pulled in a few extra Dunloy men but we didn't get the bounce we expected if i'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on June 18, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
Who is the source of this about new players from Loughgiel? Any more from any other clubs? Lets bare in mind we got beaten by westmeath, surely a few additions to the squad even if they are not all starters will be a positive move. I mean to say that Neilly McGarry is the only one you think would be worth putting forward out of an all ireland winning team is insane! I mean those other fellas have hurled at the highest level with their club and suceeded, how could you justify saying that any of those Loughgiel lads dont deserve a shot as much as some of the hurlers who are currently on the panel and have never experienced anything near that level. New manager, new panel, clean slate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
 I would think there'd be a few others from other clubs, 5 or 6 perhaps. I'd fancy all the loughgiel lads to start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on June 18, 2012, 02:32:45 PM
The following players are asked to attend a Senior Hurling Trail game on Tuesday 19th June at UUJ  7PM  start

--
1 Joey Scullion Loughgiel
2 Neil Mc Garry Loughgiel
3 Johnny Campbell Loughgiel
4 Martin Scullion Loughgiel
5 James Campbell Loughgiel
6 Damien Quinn Loughgiel
7 Chris O'Connell Loughgiel
8 Barney  McAuley Loughgiel
9 Eddie McCloskey Loughgiel
10 Liam Watson Loughgiel
11 Paddy Mc Gill Cushendall
12 Paddy Mc Naughton Cushendall
13 Shane McNaughton Cushendall
14 Aaron Graffin Cushendall
15 Neil McManus Cushendall
16 Conor Carson Cushendall
17 Barry McFall St John's
18 Adrian Downey St John's
19 Colm McFall St John's
20 Conal Morgan St Johns
21 Neal McAuley Ballycastle
22 Cormac Donnelly Ballycastle
23 Brendan Herron Lamh Dhearg
24 Michael Herron Lamh Dhearg
25 Karl Stewart St Galls
26 Kieran McGourty St Galls
27 Seanan McToal Glenariffe
28 Michael Gettins Glenariffe
29 Mark Rea Sarsfields
30 Ciarnan Rea Sarsfields
31 Paul Shields Dunloy
32 John Kerr Rossa
33 Darren Hamill Shane O'Neill's
34 Sean McLaughlin Carey Faughs
35 P.J. O'Connell Clooney Gaels
36 Kevin Grieves St Agnes
37 Conor Mc Cann Creggan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 02:35:40 PM
Don't say I didn't tell you.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
One Dunloy man?????

Surely da fook they have better players on their team that are on that panel??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on June 18, 2012, 02:37:31 PM
OK thats better, now the fun starts..pick your team from that..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
That panel looks about fair to me, funny though playing a trial game in June to pick a county panel. You seriously couldnt write it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on June 18, 2012, 02:40:27 PM
I would have thought Kevin Molloy, James McKeague and Paddy Doc would have been worth a look..?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
That panel looks about fair to me, funny though playing a trial game in June to pick a county panel. You seriously couldnt write it.

I'm playing midfield tonight for the Z'ds, so I hope Jim and the boys will be looking for more players  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
I just feel sorry for the 5 LG men left behind, could they not go up and puck the balls back out or something  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
I just feel sorry for the 5 LG men left behind, could they not go up and puck the balls back out or something  ;)
A couple of them are on the county u21 team.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on June 18, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
OK here goes
1) DD
2) A Graffin
3) N McGarry
4) K McGourty
5) N McAuley
6) M Scullion
7) J Campbell
8) Shorty/Barney
9) B McFall/J Scullion
10) P McGill
11) N McManus
12) E McCloskey
13) S McNaughton
14) K Stewart
15) L Watson

Midfield is anybodys really, hard one to call, interesting to see Brendan Herrons name in there too, another option maybe.
Let the bashing begin...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on June 18, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
OK here goes
1) DD
2) A Graffin
3) N McGarry Hippy?
4) K McGourty
5) N McAuley
6) M Scullion
7) J Campbell
8) Shorty/Barney Shorty
9) B McFall/J Scullion
10) P McGill Stewarty
11) N McManus
12) E McCloskey
13) S McNaughton
14) K StewartP.J. O'Connell
15) L Watson

Midfield is anybodys really, hard one to call, interesting to see Brendan Herrons name in there too, another option maybe.
Let the bashing begin...

Brendan was a cracking hurler when he played for Antrim on the half back line, not to the same standard now. Mainly due to playing football for Antrim for a period I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 18, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Brendan never touched ball against us. Not the player he was.

Aidan Gallagher deserves a shout although probably couldnt commit with the footballers

Karl wont feature this year for club or county

Have Ballycastle not got a few who deserve a shout considering their good performances recently ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
One Dunloy man?????

Surely da fook they have better players on their team that are on that panel??

yeah they have but they are not intrested unfortunatley. i.e kevy molloy and shane dowds buts thats about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
That panel looks about fair to me, funny though playing a trial game in June to pick a county panel. You seriously couldnt write it.

I'm playing midfield tonight for the Z'ds, so I hope Jim and the boys will be looking for more players  :o

:-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2012, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 18, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Brendan never touched ball against us. Not the player he was.

Aidan Gallagher deserves a shout although probably couldnt commit with the footballers

Karl wont feature this year for club or county

Have Ballycastle not got a few who deserve a shout considering their good performances recently ?

I would have thought young clarke, maybe he has been approached and declined
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 08:28:23 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM
That panel looks about fair to me, funny though playing a trial game in June to pick a county panel. You seriously couldnt write it.

I'm playing midfield tonight for the Z'ds, so I hope Jim and the boys will be looking for more players  :o

:-\

Well that was a bollox of a night, went over in the rain to play a South Antrim cup match, rain was pretty consistant but not heavy, then eventually stopped and the sun started to show. The referee arrives in his trainers and (in an awaiting taxi!!) and declared that the pitch was unplayable!!, a bit of water on one patch, very slight in fairness and he bounced off the pitch and into the taxi that he told to wait as he was going to call match off!!!

If ever there was a case of someone wanting to watch a soccer match then this was it!!!! Hope Ireland get stuffed >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
That's shocking mr2!
Shameful over a meaningless soccer match.

Are u deliberately not naming the ref or his club? Fair enough.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 18, 2012, 08:46:23 PM
here here ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2012, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 18, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
That's shocking mr2!
Shameful over a meaningless soccer match.

Are u deliberately not naming the ref or his club? Fair enough.

Look whether he was looking away to watch match or not I can't say for sure, but his taxi was sitting waiting on him was hilarious. Walked on to pitch in trainers hadn't even boots ffs!!

I'm not naming but its a very successful bar, I mean lower falls club ;)

I've hurled in worst conditions this year nevermind in my lifetime!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2012, 09:29:02 PM
 Now now mr2, no criticising referees on the board. You'll have mibag on Yer case.    :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 19, 2012, 09:39:33 AM
Does anyone actually know what happened in Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 09:46:09 AM
From what I have been told, one of the Ballycastle players was yellow carded - took exception this and continued verbally insulting the Ref, his brother then joined in and it ended up with both being Red carded. MMcS got involved at this point and one of the previously mentioned players had to be restrained from trying to get at the Ref.

The game was Abandoned with 58 mins played  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2012, 09:56:28 AM
I imagine the Ref in question took alot of pleasure in abandoning the game and being the centre of attention - or is that all Refs?

On the other hand, given the Ray Matthews affair maybe the Refs are right to be zero tolerance once physically threatened.

What is for sure? It will be very interesting to see how the authorities handle the fallout!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2012, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 09:46:09 AM
From what I have been told, one of the Ballycastle players was yellow carded - took exception this and continued verbally insulting the Ref, his brother then joined in and it ended up with both being Red carded. MMcS got involved at this point and one of the previously mentioned players had to be restrained from trying to get at the Ref.

The game was Abandoned with 58 mins played  :-\

The Ports were six points up at this stage as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Points to portaferry then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Not just as straight forward as that SIE, they will have to appeal the decision to abandon etc so will have to go to committee and back and forward around them for a few months more than likely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 19, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Not just as straight forward as that SIE, they will have to appeal the decision to abandon etc so will have to go to committee and back and forward around them for a few months more than likely.

Is there not something about how long has been played.

I remember hearing if there was less than 10 mins to go the match would be awarded to the winning team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2012, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Not just as straight forward as that SIE, they will have to appeal the decision to abandon etc so will have to go to committee and back and forward around them for a few months more than likely.

Points aside, the two lads, one who refused to leave the field after being shown a red (two yellows) and another player entering the field of play after being previously red carded could face hefty suspensions.

Ballycastle would be getting off lightly enough if its only two points they lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
It all sounds like a helluva lot of meetings to come and a long time before this one is resolved!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 11:31:28 AM
In fairness I wouldn't like to be heading in front of any committee at the moment with a verbal or physical assault on the Ref on rap sheet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 19, 2012, 11:31:38 AM
These two Ballycastle players have always had an attitude problem..........if the town want to progress they need to get their act together soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 19, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 11:31:28 AM
In fairness I wouldn't like to be heading in front of any committee at the moment with a verbal or physical assault on the Ref on rap sheet.

Quite right too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 11:31:28 AM
In fairness I wouldn't like to be heading in front of any committee at the moment with a verbal or physical assault on the Ref on rap sheet.

I don't think there is any choice but to be heading in front of a Committee!

The Town to argue over the punishment, and likely Portaferry to claim the points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 19, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 19, 2012, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 11:31:28 AM
In fairness I wouldn't like to be heading in front of any committee at the moment with a verbal or physical assault on the Ref on rap sheet.

I don't think there is any choice but to be heading in front of a Committee!

The Town to argue over the punishment, and likely Portaferry to claim the points.
They'll have to take their medicine like any other club who finds themselves in this position I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Not just as straight forward as that SIE, they will have to appeal the decision to abandon etc so will have to go to committee and back and forward around them for a few months more than likely.
it'll probably end up being replayed at the end of it all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 20, 2012, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Not just as straight forward as that SIE, they will have to appeal the decision to abandon etc so will have to go to committee and back and forward around them for a few months more than likely.
it'll probably end up being replayed at the end of it all.

Or just replay the remaining 5 minutes with the scores as it stands??

A bit harsh on my good friends in Portaferry otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 08:52:28 AM
Don't think in this circumstance replaying the game would be a viable option. Would lead to murder, sure any team getting beat with a couple of mins to go just kick off and get the game abandoned, dangerous precedent.

Big suspensions and a fine for the two points to portaferry and as you were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on June 20, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
Anyone know what happened at the hurling 'trial' last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on June 20, 2012, 09:29:52 AM
Anyone know what happened at the hurling 'trial' last night?

All Loughgiel players turned up. The additional Cushendall boys did not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 20, 2012, 10:03:16 AM
Colonel it isn't just as simple as they didn't turn up, would you not consider they might not have been able to commit at this time, same as a few of the golden boys from Loughgiel who suddenly decided they were able to commit last week? Maybe they'll only commit when a manager of their choosing is in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
Games are going ahead on sunday then  despite antrim playing the following week .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
If they are fit to play a Trial Game last night then they should be fit to hurl for theirs clubs on Sunday, don't think that should be an issue at all.

The commitment thing is probably eased by the fact its only for two games and a month max (the way things have been going anyway) so what's that 8 sessions, plenty of gear and a top class match. Can see why the LG boys wouldn't turn it down. On the other hand can also see why other club players wouldn't be rushing to sign up as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 20, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
The whole thing stinks - LG boys in because JN manager now (call a spade a spade) and no BS about commitment and timing, and personal issues and bla bla bla.

Antrim will never succeed unless they are living outta each others pockets from a very early age, until they know each other and accept each other.  Have played with each other long enough to put club politics behind them when playing for county!

Anyone who puts any other argument forward (besides the level of skill and system of play) is delusional!!!

And yes, fair chance the dall boys didnt come because it didnt suit that JN (LG management) was now in place - no BS here colonel, tell it how it is!

sin e
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
Maybe turn up was not the right term. The Cushendall players said they did not feel comfortable walking into a changing room less than two weeks before the game when players who had been there all year wouldn't be that overly pleased to see them. I don't think they would have anything against JN as they wouldn't know him at all.

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 20, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?

Did he use crayons to write it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 20, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?

Did he use crayons to write it?
Do you not mean "Ulster's hurler of the century" colonel?

I hear the Dall fellas that were there previously all showed up and that everyone put in a good session.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 20, 2012, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
Maybe turn up was not the right term. The Cushendall players said they did not feel comfortable walking into a changing room less than two weeks before the game when players who had been there all year wouldn't be that overly pleased to see them. I don't think they would have anything against JN as they wouldn't know him at all.

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?

Cant find it online - care to give us a synopsis?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 20, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?

Did he use crayons to write it?
Do you not mean "Ulster's hurler of the century" colonel?

I hear the Dall fellas that were there previously all showed up and that everyone put on a good session.

Yes he was awarded Ulster Hurler of the Century, issue with that?

Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 20, 2012, 11:25:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
Maybe turn up was not the right term. The Cushendall players said they did not feel comfortable walking into a changing room less than two weeks before the game when players who had been there all year wouldn't be that overly pleased to see them. I don't think they would have anything against JN as they wouldn't know him at all.

Anyone read Sambo's piece in the Antrim Post yesterday?

Cant find it online - care to give us a synopsis?



He said that he was sorry the JW experiment as manager hasn't worked. Like Dick he wasn't valued and that he didn't like the way JW didn't stand up for Hippy (never mentioned the RTE stuff) and wishes Jim Nelson and Jerry all the best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
Just wondering who awarded it to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on June 20, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
Just wondering who awarded it to him.

The Irish News at the start of this century
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 12:20:06 PM
Sambo just won't go away ya'know!
Hurler of the Century? He was the weak link in that great Dall half back line, I still maintain his instantly recognisable appearance is what gets him noticed - not his hurling. Especially by lazy journalists who just had to fill space and didnt wanna know about the game.

But then thats just me!

I also agree the Loughiel boys have obviously had a change in heart becasue of the management rather that "personal issues" which is just a flag of convenience to soften things.
We cant go down the road where players dictate management.

DearyMe I appreciate the sentiment but it is simplictic at best.
Antrim will never succeed unless they are living outta each others pockets from a very early age, until they know each other and accept each other.  Have played with each other long enough to put club politics behind them when playing for county!
This would just make them a club team in essence and I have already stated my views on this endless process of taking players out of their clubs for development squads - bottom line is it weakens the county/club scene as a whole for the expense of 15-24 guys who's progress is questionable. I still believe we are all club players who go "on loan / part-time" to the county for a limited time in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2012, 12:39:42 PM
regardless of some loughgeil players motives, I think you will find most of the new ones just in wont start v limerick/laois. the more important thing is there seems to be a bit of renewed effort going in, they lost to wexford at the weekend by two points and gave laois a big tanking recently as well. Its a good to see J N back there but hes not a magician(very little time to implement his ideas), he,s there because he was asked and he's antrim to the core. theres no point in bashing one particular club with players who wont or will line out for antrim as all the big antrim clubs have them even in Belfast. one example is you armstrong wtf is he playing football for when he can hurl the way he does. where did young MC Guinness go as he was very impressive for antrim. its time to stop whinging and sniping and get behind them for there next match regardless of the perceived result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on June 20, 2012, 12:53:56 PM
McGuinnes tore the ACL last year, he is in rehab currently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 20, 2012, 01:03:15 PM
Antrim will never "succeed" until people from Stranocum, Dervock, Ballybogey, Ballyclare, Carrickfergus, Antrim, Galgorm, Ballymoney start hurling. We have shown that we can compete at club level in both codes but we lack the right numbers to be seriously competitive at IC level

I personally would prefer us to have someone local and a wise old head like JN is as good an  option as any....picking a select (ala international soccer) and working 3-4 times the week before an intercounty match. Treat the players well (kit and food after training) and then send them back to their clubs until the next game comes up. All this week in week out year in year out travelling to county training for amateurs (especially dual players) would wear anybody down over time. Don't think we would be any further way from that success people talk about (what it is) doing it this way and the league run better IMO. Encourage all clubs to up their coaching standards over time and see where it takes us. I think it would be more enjoyable for all concerned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
I'd think there'd be 7-8 lg players starting the next Antrim game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 01:16:29 PM
Interesting points skull1.

Drastic for some but I can see exactly where you are coming from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 01:22:23 PM
Dont think its overly drastic, think its along the right lines.

Take the emphasis away from the county set-up put it back onto the clubs, have the county manager drop in on the clubs week in week out watch the training, along with the paid county staff suggest ways to improve the training. Support the club coaches.
Thereby forcing the standard of the coaches up, standard of player will increase, level of competition increases, county will benefit from a better standard of player to chose from.

Dont think we would be any less successful going with a system like this as opposed the current one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 20, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 01:22:23 PM
Dont think its overly drastic, think its along the right lines.

Take the emphasis away from the county set-up put it back onto the clubs, have the county manage drop in on the clubs week in week out watch the training, along with the paid county staff suggest ways to improve the training. Support the club coaches.
Thereby forcing the standard of the coaches up, standard or player will increase, level of competition increases, county will benefit from a better standard of player to chose from.

Dont think we would be any less successful going with a system like this as opposed the current one!

That is a great suggestion. We are paying for the coaches so why are we not getting some help from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 01:36:56 PM
All great points lads - I agree 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on June 20, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
I see Derry won the Camogie title at the weekend and gave Antrim a bit of a hammering.  Has Jane Adams retired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 02:14:34 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 20, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
I see Derry won the Camogie title at the weekend and gave Antrim a bit of a hammering.  Has Jane Adams retired?

Dont know.
Don't care.

Go to a camogie forum and ask.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on June 20, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
No, she was at county training last night - fitted right in with the dall and LG squable :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on June 20, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2012, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 02:14:34 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 20, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
I see Derry won the Camogie title at the weekend and gave Antrim a bit of a hammering.  Has Jane Adams retired?

Dont know.
Don't care.

Go to a camogie forum and ask.
Bit ignorant.

She wasn't playing, nrico. Not sure if that's due to retirement.

Good man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2012, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
I'd think there'd be 7-8 lg players starting the next Antrim game.
if there is where in for some roasting. did you watch galway v offlay on sunday. they had three players on from coolderry who made it to club final as well albeit beaten by a better loughgeil team but you could still consider them the second best club team playing this year. Brady started midfield and didn't contribute much. parlon and carroll started at corner and full forward and neither raised a flag. now when you consider galway have leaked six goals in there last two matches(3 on sunday,Dooley and Joe bergin i think). connor Conney banged in two in a matter of minutes but you wouldn't say his club are flying in galway.  maybe JN is bringing these players on to try and deploy a system that has worked for the shamrocks at club level (he knows me than all of us about hurling). SIE theres a big difference at county level where higher skill levels also has to be match by more strength and pace. I have seen some of the said players called up before and they haven't impressed at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 20, 2012, 03:04:57 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on June 20, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
No, she was at county training last night - fitted right in with the dall and LG squable :P

can you explain the squabble ?

Dall players didnt go cause they havent been all year and are lazy feckers.

LG players go cause someone from their management team is in charge.

@ skull - i agree 100%, this is something i have been saying for a few years now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 20, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
north antrim bound..........So you're saying that introducing more Div 1 players is not a good idea, and that we should stick with lower Div players who have " higher skill levels" and more " strength and pace".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2012, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 20, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
north antrim bound..........So you're saying that introducing more Div 1 players is not a good idea, and that we should stick with lower Div players who have " higher skill levels" and more " strength and pace".

wasnt addressing yourself bush, why well read what you just typed. we should pick division one players over lower division players even the ones with more skil strengh and pace. get in touch with brian cody and tell him to drop tommy walsh right away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 20, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
north antrim bound..........So you're saying that introducing more Div 1 players is not a good idea, and that we should stick with lower Div players who have " higher skill levels" and more " strength and pace".

Are you still beating on about this?

You pick your best 15 no matter what division they are in. It's a no brainer.

If some lower division players are better and just aren't blessed with being from a strong club you pick them. To not pick them would be stupid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 03:55:30 PM
Then why bother call them up NAH, unless he was considering playing them?

Neilly will start at full back, I've no doubt about that. I can see Scully lining out at chb, moving McManus to the 3/4 line. you can say what you like about James and Johnny, but along with Scully they've been the best half back line in Antrim for 2 or 3 years and all played exceptionally well up to and including the ai final. Joey, Eddie, winker and dd will all start as well.

Time will tell of course. And as someone else posted on Monday, you have to take what's posted on here with a pinch of salt. Even if what was posted in advance of any news breaking came to fruition.   ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
Lets hear your team for the Limerick game SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
manballandall

He is just going to read you the programme from St paddys day so why give him the option.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
Lets hear your team for the Limerick game SIE
Be something like this:

Niall Patterson
Dominic McKinley
Dominic McMullan
Aidan McCarry
Mick O'Connell
Sean Paul McKillop
Brendan Laverty
Brendan McGarry
Dan Gillan
Brendan Carey
Jimmy McGarry
Arthur Connolly
Seamus Richmond
Liam McGarry
Nicky McGarry
DD Quinn
Gerard McKinley
Liam Watson
Paul Gillan
Martin Scullion
Barney McAuley
Neilly McGarry
Johnny Campbell
Cathal Mc Mullan
Dim Dim Laverty
Odhran McFadden
Danny McGarry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2012, 04:27:15 PM
Even I would have to take exception to Paul Gillian or Dim Dim  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
You forgot Tinkle and tart mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on June 20, 2012, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
You forgot Tinkle and tart mr2.

Is that cockney rhyming slang, a horse or what?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 20, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
Best ever....Sam and Hugh Mulholland and Jim Mc Kee and me ( who had to retire at under 8 level due to hamstring problems).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on June 20, 2012, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
You forgot Tinkle and tart mr2.

Is that cockney rhyming slang, a horse or what?  :-\
;D 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 20, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
I see Michael Mc Shane and Joe Cassidy back on the line for Ballycastle tonight, thought they got sent off on Sunday???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 20, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
I see Michael Mc Shane and Joe Cassidy back on the line for Ballycastle tonight, thought they got sent off on Sunday???
Do they not get grace until the appeal is heard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 20, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 20, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
I see Michael Mc Shane and Joe Cassidy back on the line for Ballycastle tonight, thought they got sent off on Sunday???
Do they not get grace until the appeal is heard?

If that's right, then why can a player not make an appeal and receive grace until it's heard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 09:41:45 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on June 20, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 20, 2012, 09:19:40 PM
I see Michael Mc Shane and Joe Cassidy back on the line for Ballycastle tonight, thought they got sent off on Sunday???
Do they not get grace until the appeal is heard?

If that's right, then why can a player not make an appeal and receive grace until it's heard?
I was asking a question, I don't know the answer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
Are playing and non playing sending offs not different?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
Are playing and non playing sending offs not different?

Totally different, non playing offenders don't actually get shown a red card, their name is noted and when then the match report is sent in then they will get called to the county board and given their punishment, or not, depending on what club your from or if you're a county player ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
So is it possible mc shane and cassidy may not have known they were sent off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
So is it possible mc shane and cassidy may not have known they were sent off?

It's all down to the referee's report, if the referee noted their names then they will get suspended, but it takes a while before the thing gets done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2012, 10:36:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 20, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
Are playing and non playing sending offs not different?

Totally different, non playing offenders don't actually get shown a red card, their name is noted and when then the match report is sent in then they will get called to the county board and given their punishment, or not, depending on what club your from or if you're a county player ;)



Very good mr2!
Accurate in law and accurate in your little point to finish. I like it!

Mentors may have been reported rather than sent off / red card. The former means one can continue as normal until such time as the discipline committee suspend them. Where as a red card shown to a player during the game for example would yield an instant suspension.

Is there any point me going to the caravan and taking in galls v waterfoot mr2?
Was set for game of season but not if your boys are still out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2012, 10:49:40 PM
Don't bother heading down, we will be lucky to stay with Glenariffe. We will just wait till the 2nd of September, hopefully we will have eceryone fit and raring to go at Casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2012, 12:02:50 AM
2nd sept? Championship v dall?
Date but late this year no?

Shame if ur league effort falls off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 21, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
At least there seems to be some interest in Div 2. Div 1 seems pointless as nobody seems to care about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2012, 10:49:48 AM
Sure Bush there wasn't even a trophy for Div one until recently there if my memory serves me correctly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 21, 2012, 06:07:27 PM
mr2 hope there will be some sort of a show.  Heading down to the glens and hope to take in a game.  i feel however currently none of the division 2 teams would be fit to compete over a league campaign and remain in division 1.

St galls with dual problems and talking to a Glenariffe man at a wedding last weekend who claims they are just holding things together themselves.  He reckons during the week it can be dodgy if they have a team.  Many of the lads are working abroad.

This is a trend throughout alot of clubs with lads moving to the UK or further afield and the work prospects don't seem to be getting any better.

Division one teams will be able to survive and little better due to bigger squads

On the county set up.

Jim Nelson fair play for stepping in  HOWEVER is there any point in wiping the eye of the panel that has given up 3 nights per week and numerous weekends by letting approx 5 players in for the final 2 weeks.  Lets face it, the game is more than likely beyond us.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2012, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 21, 2012, 06:07:27 PM
mr2 hope there will be some sort of a show.  Heading down to the glens and hope to take in a game. i feel however currently none of the division 2 teams would be fit to compete over a league campaign and remain in division 1.
St galls with dual problems and talking to a Glenariffe man at a wedding last weekend who claims they are just holding things together themselves.  He reckons during the week it can be dodgy if they have a team.  Many of the lads are working abroad.

This is a trend throughout alot of clubs with lads moving to the UK or further afield and the work prospects don't seem to be getting any better.

Division one teams will be able to survive and little better due to bigger squads

On the county set up.

Jim Nelson fair play for stepping in  HOWEVER is there any point in wiping the eye of the panel that has given up 3 nights per week and numerous weekends by letting approx 5 players in for the final 2 weeks.  Lets face it, the game is more than likely beyond us.

That would be a very fair assessment. I thought the way we started the league we could have competed but with injuries and and other excuses for league games, it's not the case. Would need a bigger more competitive panel to deal with the league I think, with less distractions and a bitta luck.

When we were last in Div 1 we targeted games that we thought we'd be competitive and ensured we had our best available panel for those games. Worked for a right few seasons but eventually ya get caught.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
Yes saff & mr2 I agree.

In essence that's the difference between the one off massive championship effort compared to sustained league season.

Whilst div2 is exciting in itself I don't see a team with not lacking in either commitment or panel strong enough for div1 consistency.

Granted i have only seen Glenarrife once in milltown this year but their yo-yo suggests they are too good for div2 but not up to div1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
A few players have walked since the introduction of these boys who have not trained all year and walking in at a late stage? IMO I don't blame the ones that have received their first call up, however, the ones that were invited along at the start of the year and declined, but have now returned are the ones in the wrong here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 06:22:23 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
A few players have walked since the introduction of these boys who have not trained all year and walking in at a late stage? IMO I don't blame the ones that have received their first call up, however, the ones that were invited along at the start of the year and declined, but have now returned are the ones in the wrong here.
No, you've got it wrong. All the fellas who have been training all year are all still there along with the 5 lg lads, of which only 2 have "returned" as you put it. The other 3 were not there previously.

The Cushendall lads that didn't turn up on Tuesday were new to the panel also. The Dall players that were there previously all showed up on Tuesday night. This seems to have been missed by some on here.

There's a challenge match tomorrow for Antrim and everyone that was called up on Tuesday has been called up for tomorrow as well. Let's hope they all show up, eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 22, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
sie, it will remain to be seen who travels to limerick for the game.

However point remains for the sake of two weeks, thought it was unnecessary upheaval for a squad that had been through the mill.

the whole situation seems a little ridiculous regards people going and returning (both management and players).

Even if Jim looked on this as a 3 year plan still unsure of the reasoning for introducing more players into the squad.  There are Antrim lads who put in the effort this year and that good or bad is the panel this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 06:22:23 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
A few players have walked since the introduction of these boys who have not trained all year and walking in at a late stage? IMO I don't blame the ones that have received their first call up, however, the ones that were invited along at the start of the year and declined, but have now returned are the ones in the wrong here.
No, you've got it wrong. All the fellas who have been training all year are all still there along with the 5 lg lads, of which only 2 have "returned" as you put it. The other 3 were not there previously.

The Cushendall lads that didn't turn up on Tuesday were new to the panel also. The Dall players that were there previously all showed up on Tuesday night. This seems to have been missed by some on here.

There's a challenge match tomorrow for Antrim and everyone that was called up on Tuesday has been called up for tomorrow as well. Let's hope they all show up, eh?

Who we playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2012, 09:24:01 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 22, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
sie, it will remain to be seen who travels to limerick for the game.

However point remains for the sake of two weeks, thought it was unnecessary upheaval for a squad that had been through the mill.

the whole situation seems a little ridiculous regards people going and returning (both management and players).
Even if Jim looked on this as a 3 year plan still unsure of the reasoning for introducing more players into the squad.  There are Antrim lads who put in the effort this year and that good or bad is the panel this year.

Quite right - and would it happen in any other county - I think not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on June 22, 2012, 09:25:14 AM
With training sessions boasting 10-12 players before this whole situation arose perhaps it was just pure necessity to bring extra players at this stage?? I mean JN was asked to step in to salvage the remaining two weeks of the season. He saw the best way to do this was strengthen the panal. Men were asked from various clubs as far as im aware, seems that the only ones that responded were the LG players and they have left themselves up for ridicule for doing this..? Can i ask anyone what there alternative would have been, carrying a panal of approx 20 players, including injured players and also players that every one of you have considered not up to county standard.

Now I totally agree, its not ideal bringing players into a panal 2 weeks before a c'ship game, but as i said it seems it was necessary given the lack of numbers or dedication shown previously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on June 22, 2012, 09:25:14 AM
With training sessions boasting 10-12 players before this whole situation arose perhaps it was just pure necessity to bring extra players at this stage?? I mean JN was asked to step in to salvage the remaining two weeks of the season. He saw the best way to do this was strengthen the panal. Men were asked from various clubs as far as im aware, seems that the only ones that responded were the LG players and they have left themselves up for ridicule for doing this..? Can i ask anyone what there alternative would have been, carrying a panal of approx 20 players, including injured players and also players that every one of you have considered not up to county standard.

Now I totally agree, its not ideal bringing players into a panal 2 weeks before a c'ship game, but as i said it seems it was necessary given the lack of numbers or dedication shown previously.
You're correct. New players were asked from other clubs as well. Most turned up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 06:22:23 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
A few players have walked since the introduction of these boys who have not trained all year and walking in at a late stage? IMO I don't blame the ones that have received their first call up, however, the ones that were invited along at the start of the year and declined, but have now returned are the ones in the wrong here.
No, you've got it wrong. All the fellas who have been training all year are all still there along with the 5 lg lads, of which only 2 have "returned" as you put it. The other 3 were not there previously.

The Cushendall lads that didn't turn up on Tuesday were new to the panel also. The Dall players that were there previously all showed up on Tuesday night. This seems to have been missed by some on here.

There's a challenge match tomorrow for Antrim and everyone that was called up on Tuesday has been called up for tomorrow as well. Let's hope they all show up, eh?

Who we playing?
limerick or Laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2012, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 22, 2012, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 06:22:23 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
A few players have walked since the introduction of these boys who have not trained all year and walking in at a late stage? IMO I don't blame the ones that have received their first call up, however, the ones that were invited along at the start of the year and declined, but have now returned are the ones in the wrong here.
No, you've got it wrong. All the fellas who have been training all year are all still there along with the 5 lg lads, of which only 2 have "returned" as you put it. The other 3 were not there previously.

The Cushendall lads that didn't turn up on Tuesday were new to the panel also. The Dall players that were there previously all showed up on Tuesday night. This seems to have been missed by some on here.

There's a challenge match tomorrow for Antrim and everyone that was called up on Tuesday has been called up for tomorrow as well. Let's hope they all show up, eh?

Who we playing?
limerick or Laois.

In the challenge match????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Sorry, thought you meant championship. I believe it's an in house game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 01:36:18 PM
15 or 16 at training last night, despite the call ups, can you confirm that SIE? Also thought it was harsh that apparently when i game was started all of these new boys were included at the expense of some of the boys that have trained all year? Disgrace if true. Not the right way to go about this, there has to be some form of loyalty shown to those who have committed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2012, 01:36:18 PM
15 or 16 at training last night, despite the call ups, can you confirm that SIE? Also thought it was harsh that apparently when i game was started all of these new boys were included at the expense of some of the boys that have trained all year? Disgrace if true. Not the right way to go about this, there has to be some form of loyalty shown to those who have committed.

Or maybe they have watched the guys on the panel for 6 months now and know what they are capable of and have to have a longer look at the new guys to see if they are up to the pace and what they can do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 22, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
I struggle with the notion that JN in taking on this position at such late notice has to in some way restrict himself to "the boys" who've been there all year. Just does not make sense. Surely he's allowed to be his own man an call up the panel he feels he can get the most out of.  Surely growns up can live with that,  disappointed as some may be at not being one of Jims men. Only a child would bitch and moan about such a thing.

As a side point the fact that theres been poor turn outs at training, there can't be many who have totally dedicated themselves to the saffron jersey (not that I agree with all the IC training being done) and I would say most of them would be considered. 

I keep saying it......all this IC training is a bit of a farce and come summertime when guys want to enjoy their hurling they're out 5/6 nights a week scundered. IC training takes the hit when a night off is needed or a football match is on, thereby making a farce of IC training, which unsurprising shows in their performances. How many years in the last 20 have Antrim training sessions been well attended all year? 2-3 at the very most.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
I struggle with the notion that JN in taking on this position at such late notice has to in some way restrict himself to "the boys" who've been there all year. Just does not make sense. Surely he's allowed to be his own man an call up the panel he feels he can get the most out of.  Surely growns up can live with that,  disappointed as some may be at not being one of Jims men. Only a child would bitch and moan about such a thing.

As a side point the fact that theres been poor turn outs at training, there can't be many who have totally dedicated themselves to the saffron jersey (not that I agree with all the IC training being done) and I would say most of them would be considered. 

I keep saying it......all this IC training is a bit of a farce and come summertime when guys want to enjoy their hurling they're out 5/6 nights a week scundered. IC training takes the hit when a night off is needed or a football match is on, thereby making a farce of IC training, which unsurprising shows in their performances. How many years in the last 20 have Antrim training sessions been well attended all year? 2-3 at the very most.

Correct, one night a week training, flat out would be of better use than 2 plus weekends away and whatever else they are doing, if club training was attended by the county players then it will be a bigger benefit to the club and eventually the county.

On another note, what's the chances of pitches holding out for the games at the weekend?? Glenariffe's pitch is not great at holding water/rain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2012, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
I struggle with the notion that JN in taking on this position at such late notice has to in some way restrict himself to "the boys" who've been there all year. Just does not make sense. Surely he's allowed to be his own man an call up the panel he feels he can get the most out of.  Surely growns up can live with that,  disappointed as some may be at not being one of Jims men. Only a child would bitch and moan about such a thing.

As a side point the fact that theres been poor turn outs at training, there can't be many who have totally dedicated themselves to the saffron jersey (not that I agree with all the IC training being done) and I would say most of them would be considered. 

I keep saying it......all this IC training is a bit of a farce and come summertime when guys want to enjoy their hurling they're out 5/6 nights a week scundered. IC training takes the hit when a night off is needed or a football match is on, thereby making a farce of IC training, which unsurprising shows in their performances. How many years in the last 20 have Antrim training sessions been well attended all year? 2-3 at the very most.

Correct, one night a week training, flat out would be of better use than 2 plus weekends away and whatever else they are doing, if club training was attended by the county players then it will be a bigger benefit to the club and eventually the county.

On another note, what's the chances of pitches holding out for the games at the weekend?? Glenariffe's pitch is not great at holding water/rain

Agree fully mr2 with first point - happening too often this weather we're due a disagreement soon!

If that rain keeps falling (it's feckin supposed to be summer!) it would take some pitch to hold out.
I predict some games off, some played in diabolical conditions maybe even results turned on head as a result - and maybe some to and fro with venue switches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 23, 2012, 09:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
I struggle with the notion that JN in taking on this position at such late notice has to in some way restrict himself to "the boys" who've been there all year. Just does not make sense. Surely he's allowed to be his own man an call up the panel he feels he can get the most out of.  Surely growns up can live with that,  disappointed as some may be at not being one of Jims men. Only a child would bitch and moan about such a thing.

As a side point the fact that theres been poor turn outs at training, there can't be many who have totally dedicated themselves to the saffron jersey (not that I agree with all the IC training being done) and I would say most of them would be considered. 

I keep saying it......all this IC training is a bit of a farce and come summertime when guys want to enjoy their hurling they're out 5/6 nights a week scundered. IC training takes the hit when a night off is needed or a football match is on, thereby making a farce of IC training, which unsurprising shows in their performances. How many years in the last 20 have Antrim training sessions been well attended all year? 2-3 at the very most.

Correct, one night a week training, flat out would be of better use than 2 plus weekends away and whatever else they are doing, if club training was attended by the county players then it will be a bigger benefit to the club and eventually the county.

On another note, what's the chances of pitches holding out for the games at the weekend?? Glenariffe's pitch is not great at holding water/rain

true about the one night a week with the county MR2, but that is only if there is a reasonable high standard of training amongst the clubs and that would be difficult to attain with a wide selection of clubs.  But reckon emphasis has to be on clubs, also reckon need to go to group champion basis to get more games for the players.  the gaps that are about to appear for clubs with no matches in the summer is just stupid.

Training being poorly attended though is simply lack of effort at times.  other counties seem to have panels that go flat out for 6 months.

as for the Glenariffe pitch, i would have thought it should hold more water that most and it is practically on the beach and sand based.  But if you hear any different post asap.  3pm in Glenariffe is a game i intend to be at
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2012, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 23, 2012, 09:02:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 22, 2012, 02:35:50 PM
I struggle with the notion that JN in taking on this position at such late notice has to in some way restrict himself to "the boys" who've been there all year. Just does not make sense. Surely he's allowed to be his own man an call up the panel he feels he can get the most out of.  Surely growns up can live with that,  disappointed as some may be at not being one of Jims men. Only a child would bitch and moan about such a thing.

As a side point the fact that theres been poor turn outs at training, there can't be many who have totally dedicated themselves to the saffron jersey (not that I agree with all the IC training being done) and I would say most of them would be considered. 

I keep saying it......all this IC training is a bit of a farce and come summertime when guys want to enjoy their hurling they're out 5/6 nights a week scundered. IC training takes the hit when a night off is needed or a football match is on, thereby making a farce of IC training, which unsurprising shows in their performances. How many years in the last 20 have Antrim training sessions been well attended all year? 2-3 at the very most.

Correct, one night a week training, flat out would be of better use than 2 plus weekends away and whatever else they are doing, if club training was attended by the county players then it will be a bigger benefit to the club and eventually the county.

On another note, what's the chances of pitches holding out for the games at the weekend?? Glenariffe's pitch is not great at holding water/rain

true about the one night a week with the county MR2, but that is only if there is a reasonable high standard of training amongst the clubs and that would be difficult to attain with a wide selection of clubs.  But reckon emphasis has to be on clubs, also reckon need to go to group champion basis to get more games for the players.  the gaps that are about to appear for clubs with no matches in the summer is just stupid.

Training being poorly attended though is simply lack of effort at times.  other counties seem to have panels that go flat out for 6 months.

as for the Glenariffe pitch, i would have thought it should hold more water that most and it is practically on the beach and sand based.  But if you hear any different post asap.  3pm in Glenariffe is a game i intend to be at

Great point.
Title: Imithe
Post by: drici on June 23, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Quote from: drici on June 08, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on June 08, 2012, 04:49:10 PM

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry.


Gone with immediate effect.

And he's away again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 23, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
What is going on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 08:04:15 PM
I don't know the reason he was sacked, well I do, but can't say at this point until its verified. it was related to me this morning. I thought it best not to post it until I'd heard everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
"Breach of confidence" is floating about.
Lies is what I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 23, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
"Breach of confidence" is floating about.
Lies is what I heard.
Heard that also.  When he released the statement a week or two ago I kind of felt like he'd been given a hard time over it all, but now I'm glad to see the back of him.  He's lost any respect that would have been left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2012, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on June 23, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
"Breach of confidence" is floating about.
Lies is what I heard.
Heard that also.  When he released the statement a week or two ago I kind of felt like he'd been given a hard time over it all, but now I'm glad to see the back of him.  He's lost any respect that would have been left.

Yeah I heard "lies" too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2012, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 23, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
"Breach of confidence" is floating about.
Lies is what I heard.
You have already dismissed what you heard as lies?
No. He'd been spreading lies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 23, 2012, 09:48:29 PM
Be some craic against Limerick now... terrific preparation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 01:09:27 AM
Quote from: gelvis on June 23, 2012, 09:48:29 PM
Be some craic against Limerick now... terrific preparation
Aye, because they put up such a great show against Westmeath last time out.


Its harsh on the lads that were there before, but I'll hazard a bet there'll be no division
3 or 4 hurlers on the Antrim team next time around.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on June 24, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
What is going on now? FFS, Antrim hurling, the pantomime that keeps on giving
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 24, 2012, 01:11:25 AM
We are going to be fcukin tanked.......
But sure we were going to be "tanked"  anyway under the last set up. I mean, beaten by westmeath ffs! Which I predicted by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 24, 2012, 04:09:32 PM
St Galls were up by 9 in Glenariffe at half time, 1 in it now to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 24, 2012, 04:21:28 PM
Glenariffe won 3-17 to 2-14.

Glenariffe scored 3-10 in the second half to St Galls 0-4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
Sounds like there was a big wind minder?

How did the Rossa game play out HS?

I have to confess I gave cork v tipp my attention today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
 Cork/tipp some game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 05:08:10 PM
What a goal - pivotal in game SIE!
That moment goons define match I think. But wait - red card!
Gotta love Munster hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Cork level. Should win it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 05:21:32 PM
This is why I'm not a betting man.   :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
Ah Christ what a game SIE! I just don't think there's a hurler in Antrim could hold his own on that field! Even winker would do well to step up to that level it's a diff game to club level.

Hardstation I think u made the right call on which match to watch!

Mr2/minder can u let us know how things went in waterfoot?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 24, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
Sounds like there was a big wind minder?

How did the Rossa game play out HS?

I have to confess I gave cork v tipp my attention today?


The wind wasnt a factor, St Galls started well but we had a great second half. Randall McDonnell was outstanding for us at FF.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 24, 2012, 06:03:29 PM
was at the glenariffe galls game, very enjoyable.  Also caught the second half of the tipp game.  Reckon there are 4/5 lads in antrim that could do well in a game like that if they were subjected to that level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
Ah Christ what a game SIE! I just don't think there's a hurler in Antrim could hold his own on that field! Even winker would do well to step up to that level it's a diff game to club level.

Hardstation I think u made the right call on which match to watch!

Mr2/minder can u let us know how things went in waterfoot?
Winker has held his own against Cork before, Eoin Cadogan in particular. 6 points from play against him in croke park a couple of years ago. but sure, he never performs on the big stage.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
good point SIE, but how did that day end for Liam? Dunloy draw in Portaferry? St Johns narrowly beaten by Cushendall, they could find themselves in Div 2 if they don't turn things around quickly. Wins again for Glenariffe and Rossa in div 2, these two emerging as the only real promotion candidates, Minder do you know when they meet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 24, 2012, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
good point SIE, but how did that day end for Liam? Dunloy draw in Portaferry? St Johns narrowly beaten by Cushendall, they could find themselves in Div 2 if they don't turn things around quickly. Wins again for Glenariffe and Rossa in div 2, these two emerging as the only real promotion candidates, Minder do you know when they meet?

5th August in Glenariffe, that is the rearranged one, then 23 September at Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
good point SIE, but how did that day end for Liam? Dunloy draw in Portaferry? St Johns narrowly beaten by Cushendall, they could find themselves in Div 2 if they don't turn things around quickly. Wins again for Glenariffe and Rossa in div 2, these two emerging as the only real promotion candidates, Minder do you know when they meet?
It ended after he was sent off  for striking out at John Gardiner after he'd called him a black northern ****. I'd have taken that red as well.

Still got an all star nomination on the back of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
I take all ur points SIE but - can anyone really say the intensity in croke that day was anything like pairc ui Caoimh today?
Cork were not at full pelt - like I say I take ur points but stand by my thoughts on no Antrim player lasting out there today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 24, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
Eoin Cadogan must have called him a black northern **** at the start of the game as well then... I'll bet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2012, 07:56:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 24, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
Sounds like there was a big wind minder?

How did the Rossa game play out HS?

I have to confess I gave cork v tipp my attention today?


The wind wasnt a factor, St Galls started well but we had a great second half. Randall McDonnell was outstanding for us at FF.

Didn't see you at the game Minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 24, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
Eoin Cadogan must have called him a black northern **** at the start of the game as well then... I'll bet.
More than likely jj.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
I hear Dick is getting asked backed as a selector.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 24, 2012, 09:48:01 PM
MR2, I thought you were looking good for the points at half time.  It will take some crazy results for you to get promoted now. 

Looks like Rossa are only team that could beat the Glensmen.  Though who knows when they travel up to the city.

Think Owen Elliot was quite good today, took a strong referee.  These two teams don't seem to like each other.

Where was Stewart?

What were your views on the disallowed goal, didn't know what the problem was with it?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2012, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 24, 2012, 09:48:01 PM
MR2, I thought you were looking good for the points at half time.  It will take some crazy results for you to get promoted now. 

Looks like Rossa are only team that could beat the Glensmen.  Though who knows when they travel up to the city.

Think Owen Elliot was quite good today, took a strong referee.  These two teams don't seem to like each other.

Where was Stewart?

What were your views on the disallowed goal, didn't know what the problem was with it?

Was pleased with the effort considering the team, they put in a great shift for about 50 minutes but ya can't win games scoring only 4 points in the second half. I'd say from the the first game of the season we were missing 9 players. Stewart and Mackers be lucky to play against Cushendall I'd say.

Owen said it was square ball, he was standing on the 65!!

We played well with the direct ball in the first half but Glenariffe came back strong, fair play to them. We don't have the strength in depth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2012, 12:52:52 AM
Mr2 you're impartial / politically correct!
Not at the game obviously but personally hate the square ball rule because nobody can possibly call it accurately therefore it's always controversial.
Still think if everyone had full teams out then falls are the best side in the league bit fair play to Rossa for re grouping.

Think the bookies may stop taking bets on oisins now tho - job done for them.

Hardstation - can u really see Rossa winning in waterfoot?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 25, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
Glenariffe were down in div two a few years ago, how did they far against Rossa in waterfoot that time Btdtgtt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 25, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 25, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
Glenariffe were down in div two a few years ago, how did they far against Rossa in waterfoot that time Btdtgtt?

That would have been 3 years ago and I am struggling to remember if Rossa where in the league that year.
I know we went through that year without loosing in the league (i think)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on June 25, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
Glenariffe won in Belfast, Rossa won in Waterfoot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 25, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
For the life of me I cant remember those games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2012, 03:09:21 PM
Rossa have a habit of beating the other big teams in this league - Ballycastle StJohns StGalls Glenarrife - but losing to so called lesser sides! Thatrs consistency is what league hurling is about.
So I would have no doubt that Rossa beat Glenarrife imn Waterfoot - mainly because I was at it!

But that means nothing this year - my God I would love to think Rossa could win out their games and clinch the league but their overall form tells me otherwise. I think both sides have a hurdle or two before the 5th August anyway.

I will say it again - great league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 25, 2012, 03:09:21 PM
Rossa have a habit of beating the other big teams in this league - Ballycastle StJohns StGalls Glenarrife - but losing to so called lesser sides! Thatrs consistency is what league hurling is about.
So I would have no doubt that Rossa beat Glenarrife imn Waterfoot - mainly because I was at it!

But that means nothing this year - my God I would love to think Rossa could win out their games and clinch the league but their overall form tells me otherwise. I think both sides have a hurdle or two before the 5th August anyway.

I will say it again - great league.

Was a line I have said before, very competitive and a lot of teams evenly matched.

Owen did our game and he also said to me after the game (having tea, sarnies and buns!!!) it's a far better league than the div 1 league, because the games are so close and hard fought.

Again many thanks to the ladies in Glenariffe for the after match food and tea, been having that tea and sarnies for close on 24 years!!! (FFS) Was talking to a few players from years by from Glenariffe who i battled against. Good hurling lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2012, 03:48:52 PM
Playing at a lower standard and having competitive matches maybe makes it a more exciting league but not a better one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2012, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2012, 03:48:52 PM
Playing at a lower standard and having competitive matches maybe makes it a more exciting league but not a better one.

No one disagreeing with that NAG1, better maybe not the right word but a lot more interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2012, 04:11:31 PM
MR2 from the Div1 games I have seen this year that definitely would not be much of a challenge!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on June 25, 2012, 04:23:39 PM
I think if you take away Cushendall and Loughgiel there's nothing between the rest of division 1 and the top 3 or 4 in Division 2. I think there's definitely merit in a 10 team top division with 2 up/2 down like the football leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 25, 2012, 04:41:45 PM
100% agree with you on that one Jeremiah. It would also not be too different from the Div 1 football league that St Galls and Cargin dominate each year. There would be plenty of competitive matches and more meaningful games until the end of the season with two up and two down. This would also give clubs more emphasis to push on in hurling as if they could make second spot in Div 2 then they are going to be granted a shot at Div 1 hurling. If ten team leagues were approved you could also have a play off between third last and third bottom, therefore making our leagues even more meaningful, the more of these type of games are club players play, the more it benefits the county as a whole.

However, there is one reason that these changes will be very hard to implement. Clubs who are currently in Div1 but lingering around the bottom half of the table are not going to vote in a motion that could see their club relegated to Div 2, selfishness is essentially what is holding Antrim back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2012, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 25, 2012, 04:41:45 PM
100% agree with you on that one Jeremiah. It would also not be too different from the Div 1 football league that St Galls and Cargin dominate each year. There would be plenty of competitive matches and more meaningful games until the end of the season with two up and two down. This would also give clubs more emphasis to push on in hurling as if they could make second spot in Div 2 then they are going to be granted a shot at Div 1 hurling. If ten team leagues were approved you could also have a play off between third last and third bottom, therefore making our leagues even more meaningful, the more of these type of games are club players play, the more it benefits the county as a whole.

However, there is one reason that these changes will be very hard to implement. Clubs who are currently in Div1 but lingering around the bottom half of the table are not going to vote in a motion that could see their club relegated to Div 2, selfishness is essentially what is holding Antrim back.

Considering that three of these clubs are Down clubs with no say, then it should go through.

Possibly play a 10 team league and after everyone has played each other once (9 games), split the league into the top 5 and bottom 5 (another 4 games) then the top teams will be playing each other twice and keeping the tankings to a minimum.

Would give the mid table teams something to battle for through the whole year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2012, 05:42:38 PM
Very much agree with those points but lets face it - won't happen for one reason or another! I think top up & bottom down automatically, then second top & bottom play off at neutral venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 25, 2012, 07:37:19 PM
Bcastle suspensions out

MMS JC = nothing
PD = 4 weeks
MD = 1 year?

Seems a bit harsh on MD but hes had a few straight reds in the last couple of years, might have something to do with it.  Heard Portaferry's physio was going to attend the hearing to support MMS and JC about why they were told to leave the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
Is the fact that 2boys were not suspended despite being reported not a slant on ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on June 25, 2012, 09:36:06 PM
It does reflect on the referee.He admitted to lying about what MMS has said which just about sums up a dreadful performance by Terry Reilly.There was not a dirty slap in the game and then he just lost the plot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 25, 2012, 10:00:50 PM
Portaferry have been awarded the points from the Ballycastle game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 26, 2012, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 25, 2012, 07:37:19 PM
Bcastle suspensions out

MMS JC = nothing
PD = 4 weeks
MD = 1 year?

Seems a bit harsh on MD but hes had a few straight reds in the last couple of years, might have something to do with it.  Heard Portaferry's physio was going to attend the hearing to support MMS and JC about why they were told to leave the pitch.

I'd heard on saturday night that the Ballycastle management had been exonerated earlier on in the week. Original source was a wee left handed hurler, played in goals, corner back and corner forward in his day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 01:20:04 PM
What exactly happened in that game that warrants a one year suspension from the GAA? Seems harsh on the lad, will there be an appeal along the lines of the Rasharkin appeal, aimed towards the ulster council. Or is this different because it is an individual and not a club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 26, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
Attempting to assault an official in my book he is getting off lightly with a year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on June 26, 2012, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 26, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
Attempting to assault an official in my book he is getting off lightly with a year.

Totally agree Nag1, however this all seems to be because a Referee that has made his views continually clear in the safety of South Antrim/Belfast about North Antrim, its clubs and its committee and his hatred of all that is North Antrim decided that he was the one and the only at the game, the fact that he allegedly then lied about most of what went down and was prepared to let lads swing! Only the video of the game found him out gives major cause for concern, would you not agree? I think the County needs to look at sanctioning him, and he chairs the CHC, how can you go out to referee after you've  been found out to be a  liar!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 26, 2012, 04:06:37 PM
Of course I would agree that any referee should report the facts and the facts only in his report. That being said, the attempted attack on him was long before the report was even written, so we will just call these two completely seperate incidents.

The report which I havent seen, had nothing and I mean nothing to do with the attempted assualt on him and this should not be in some way be dragged through in a justifying manner.

If there was anything in the refs report which didnt transpire there may be a number of reasons for this and unless we are the individual himself we will never know this for sure. My view on it is that if someone was attempting to attack me or verbally abusing me I would not be defending them in any way in my report.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 26, 2012, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.

Maybe if it was a one off occurrence, but he's been at it for years now.  I remember our chairman having a quiet word with the County Chairman a few years ago after a game in the city where he continuously gave ridiculous decisions.  And if what lonely1 says is true then it's amazing that he still gets appointed to ref Div1 games.  Not like the county are going to turn a referee away they way it is at the min, or that GNM (I think?) will turn him away and have no home games.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 26, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 26, 2012, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.

Maybe if it was a one off occurrence, but he's been at it for years now.  I remember our chairman having a quiet word with the County Chairman a few years ago after a game in the city where he continuously gave ridiculous decisions.  And if what lonely1 says is true then it's amazing that he still gets appointed to ref Div1 games.  Not like the county are going to turn a referee away they way it is at the min, or that GNM (I think?) will turn him away and have no home games.   

They did it to Ray so Nag take a look at the video, Im sure it wont be long b4 utube has it up maybe, the Ref was wrong plain and simple and like any player or manager if it is proved he lied then he should be punished, he is not and should not be above the Rules of the association, the video I believe shows all pictures and voices!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 26, 2012, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.

So where is the right place?
This is a discussion forum - and that's exactly what's happening. People are offering opinions - its the basis of the board.
I take ur point there is a line in terms of slander or personal sensitive info but don't think that's what this is about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 26, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 26, 2012, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.

Maybe if it was a one off occurrence, but he's been at it for years now.  I remember our chairman having a quiet word with the County Chairman a few years ago after a game in the city where he continuously gave ridiculous decisions.  And if what lonely1 says is true then it's amazing that he still gets appointed to ref Div1 games.  Not like the county are going to turn a referee away they way it is at the min, or that GNM (I think?) will turn him away and have no home games.   

They did it to Ray so Nag take a look at the video, Im sure it wont be long b4 utube has it up maybe, the Ref was wrong plain and simple and like any player or manager if it is proved he lied then he should be punished, he is not and should not be above the Rules of the association, the video I believe shows all pictures and voices!

What you on about MIBAG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on June 27, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
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Of course I would agree that any referee should report the facts and the facts only in his report. That being said, the attempted attack on him was long before the report was even written, so we will just call these two completely seperate incidents.

The report which I havent seen, had nothing and I mean nothing to do with the attempted assualt on him and this should not be in some way be dragged through in a justifying manner.

If there was anything in the refs report which didnt transpire there may be a number of reasons for this and unless we are the individual himself we will never know this for sure. My view on it is that if someone was attempting to attack me or verbally abusing me I would not be defending them in any way in my report.

Nag1 if you haven't viewed the report or seen the video and then proceed to go on about situations that didn't transpire what reasons or rational are you applying? The report seems to have been rubbished by video evidence and you seem to be missing the fact that the Referee has allegedly lied, and only for the video evidence a number of lads would be suspended for the rest of the year, now tell me what justice can those lads now expect from CCC or County Committee! Yes if a referee is attacked then bury anyone involved, absolutely 100% however if nothing occurred but in the mind of the referee who was prepared to see lads sacrificed then what action should be taken then, you are avoiding the elephant in the room, the report was complete BS it should go both ways should it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Lonley1

My point was that I havent seen the video nor have I read the report like 99% if not 100% of the posters on here, so I am going on what I have been told by reliable people who were at the game. So my rational is that I am inclined to believe what I was told about the players involved in the incident and obviously this was reflected in the report to go by the suspensions handed down.

My second point was that no one can tell me without seeing the report that there was anything untoward about it. And without being the actual author of the report no one can tell, what his perceptions of the incident were, so to come on a make some of the claims that are being made about it are a bit over the top IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on June 27, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Lonley1

My point was that I havent seen the video nor have I read the report like 99% if not 100% of the posters on here, so I am going on what I have been told by reliable people who were at the game. So my rational is that I am inclined to believe what I was told about the players involved in the incident and obviously this was reflected in the report to go by the suspensions handed down.

My second point was that no one can tell me without seeing the report that there was anything untoward about it. And without being the actual author of the report no one can tell, what his perceptions of the incident were, so to come on a make some of the claims that are being made about it are a bit over the top IMO.



I do appreciate the sarcasm Nag1, however is it a question of the dog getting a bad name, i.e. the individuals suspended temporarily! So based on past experience and opinions of reliable friends you are excusing what is inexcusable, why has the CCC done a u-turn then? The only lad that hasn't escaped is MD and that is questionable yet but he was wrong and does deserve his punishment under rule, whatever that is? As the old saying goes "Nothing stays secret in the GAA", the claims are not over the top, the only thing being claimed here is the Referee has allegedly lied on his report which has now been upheld by video evidence, and enough people have seen the report at this stage to quote chapter and verse. He was wrong, dishonest, and discriminatory, which he has made no secret of in the comfort of county meetings for his lack of patience when it comes to North Antrim. What is they say " Put a beggar on horseback....................."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 04:28:20 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on June 27, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Lonley1

My point was that I havent seen the video nor have I read the report like 99% if not 100% of the posters on here, so I am going on what I have been told by reliable people who were at the game. So my rational is that I am inclined to believe what I was told about the players involved in the incident and obviously this was reflected in the report to go by the suspensions handed down.

My second point was that no one can tell me without seeing the report that there was anything untoward about it. And without being the actual author of the report no one can tell, what his perceptions of the incident were, so to come on a make some of the claims that are being made about it are a bit over the top IMO.



I do appreciate the sarcasm Nag1, however is it a question of the dog getting a bad name, i.e. the individuals suspended temporarily! So based on past experience and opinions of reliable friends you are excusing what is inexcusable, why has the CCC done a u-turn then? The only lad that hasn't escaped is MD and that is questionable yet but he was wrong and does deserve his punishment under rule, whatever that is? As the old saying goes "Nothing stays secret in the GAA", the claims are not over the top, the only thing being claimed here is the Referee has allegedly lied on his report which has now been upheld by video evidence, and enough people have seen the report at this stage to quote chapter and verse. He was wrong, dishonest, and discriminatory, which he has made no secret of in the comfort of county meetings for his lack of patience when it comes to North Antrim. What is they say " Put a beggar on horseback....................."

Maybe you picked me up wrong but there was no attempt at sarcasm in my post.

Where did I excuse lying? My previous post stating that the ref should be reporting fact and fact only.

You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about this one. My original point was that anyone assaulting or attempting assault any official whether you like them or not should have the book thrown at them IMO. I never made comment on anything other than this

You obviously are closer to this than I am, far less do I care what TOR thinks of NA clubs or SA clubs. He is one individual, the vast majority of the boys out there are trying to do a decent job and have no axes to grind. So no matter what transpired after the event for which one suspension still stands IMO that was an event too far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on June 27, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on June 27, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 01:41:47 PM
Lonley1

My point was that I havent seen the video nor have I read the report like 99% if not 100% of the posters on here, so I am going on what I have been told by reliable people who were at the game. So my rational is that I am inclined to believe what I was told about the players involved in the incident and obviously this was reflected in the report to go by the suspensions handed down.

My second point was that no one can tell me without seeing the report that there was anything untoward about it. And without being the actual author of the report no one can tell, what his perceptions of the incident were, so to come on a make some of the claims that are being made about it are a bit over the top IMO.



I do appreciate the sarcasm Nag1, however is it a question of the dog getting a bad name, i.e. the individuals suspended temporarily! So based on past experience and opinions of reliable friends you are excusing what is inexcusable, why has the CCC done a u-turn then? The only lad that hasn't escaped is MD and that is questionable yet but he was wrong and does deserve his punishment under rule, whatever that is? As the old saying goes "Nothing stays secret in the GAA", the claims are not over the top, the only thing being claimed here is the Referee has allegedly lied on his report which has now been upheld by video evidence, and enough people have seen the report at this stage to quote chapter and verse. He was wrong, dishonest, and discriminatory, which he has made no secret of in the comfort of county meetings for his lack of patience when it comes to North Antrim. What is they say " Put a beggar on horseback....................."


I think the video was more to show what the refs reasons were for sending off the managers more than the players.  In the video JC asks him why MMS was sent off and his reply was "Just you go and join him, you can have 8 weeks aswell."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 27, 2012, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2012, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 26, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
Quote from: gelvis on June 26, 2012, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 26, 2012, 05:20:23 PM
I believe this is the wrong place to be discussing such topics. Move on.

Maybe if it was a one off occurrence, but he's been at it for years now.  I remember our chairman having a quiet word with the County Chairman a few years ago after a game in the city where he continuously gave ridiculous decisions.  And if what lonely1 says is true then it's amazing that he still gets appointed to ref Div1 games.  Not like the county are going to turn a referee away they way it is at the min, or that GNM (I think?) will turn him away and have no home games.   

They did it to Ray so Nag take a look at the video, Im sure it wont be long b4 utube has it up maybe, the Ref was wrong plain and simple and like any player or manager if it is proved he lied then he should be punished, he is not and should not be above the Rules of the association, the video I believe shows all pictures and voices!

What you on about MIBAG?

Nag1 I have continuously defended Referee's on this site and that will not change, however on this occasion TR has brought the whole role of the referee into disrepute, and should just go! His club should set the first example followed by the county, absolute disgrace what has gone on if what i am told is true, and I have no reason to doubt the level of information that I have been given. Happy to elaborate within reason if you need more detail.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 28, 2012, 02:05:21 AM
Time to move on, big game for Antrim on Saturday, with all the mess that has went on over the last month or so, getting within 10 points of Limerick would be a massive success IMO. Lets give the men that wear the shirt on the day our respect and our support, also to the men on the line. At the end of the day they are the ones giving up their time for Antrim, and for the supporters, a performance is the least that we are owed. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2012, 08:27:34 AM
Lads your picking me up wrong on this point, my reaction is first off to back and defend the referee from the information that I had. If there is information out there which disproves it then I am happy to hold my hands up and say so.

Point being that not everyone had seen this video or the report and yet were quick to be jumping on the band wagon. I am sure that the full truth will come out eventually. Referees more often than not land to a game on their own or with a couple of their umpires so I would rather defend them after an incident like this and wait to be proved wrong than castigate them from the very beginning when they have a thankless task to do in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 28, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 28, 2012, 08:27:34 AM
Lads your picking me up wrong on this point, my reaction is first off to back and defend the referee from the information that I had. If there is information out there which disproves it then I am happy to hold my hands up and say so.

Point being that not everyone had seen this video or the report and yet were quick to be jumping on the band wagon. I am sure that the full truth will come out eventually. Referees more often than not land to a game on their own or with a couple of their umpires so I would rather defend them after an incident like this and wait to be proved wrong than castigate them from the very beginning when they have a thankless task to do in the first place.
Agreed on all of the above, not good to let personalities come in to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 28, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
Any truth that St Galls are managerless again ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 28, 2012, 08:53:20 PM
sie anyword of the countess of antrim, hear it was changed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 28, 2012, 08:53:20 PM
sie anyword of the countess of antrim, hear it was changed
Shamrocks 2-15 Cushendall 1-06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 29, 2012, 07:59:21 PM
Any team news for tomorrow? team are away down tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2012, 10:30:13 PM
What's the spread?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2012, 10:30:13 PM
What's the spread?

14 Points, hard to call, I'd say that will be hard to beat. Draw +14    12/1 for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 11:08:02 AM
6 loughgiel men starting. 2 scullions and James Campbell not starting. M.Herron not starting. All lg men wIll play at some stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 30, 2012, 11:14:02 AM
Think Limerick will cover the 12 point spread with Ladbrokes.

Is PJ O'Mullan involved with Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
HT Limerick 5-07 Antrim 0-13.  Limerick scored 4 goals in first 10 mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
HT Limerick 5-07 Antrim 0-13.  Limerick scored 4 goals in first 10 mins.

Is DD doing nets or just having a fag!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 30, 2012, 03:56:44 PM
4 goals in first 10 mins, anyone down able to describe what went on? 13 points wasn't bad for first halfs hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
HT Limerick 5-07 Antrim 0-13.  Limerick scored 4 goals in first 10 mins.

Is DD doing nets or just having a fag
aye, sure its dd's fault.  Jesus mr2, for someone so knowledgeable about Antrim hurling, allegedly, this is a crap, cheap post.  He's the best we have by a country mile. Wind your neck in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 04:40:50 PM
FT Limerick 8-26 (50) Antrim 1-15 (18).

2nd half score Lim 3-19 Ant 1-02
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on June 30, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
HT Limerick 5-07 Antrim 0-13.  Limerick scored 4 goals in first 10 mins.

Is DD doing nets or just having a fag
aye, sure its dd's fault.  Jesus mr2, for someone so knowledgeable about Antrim hurling, allegedly, this is a crap, cheap post.  He's the best we have by a country mile. Wind your neck in.

Think it was meant 'tongue-in-cheek'.   At least that's how I interpreted it.  Get the stick outta your hole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on June 30, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: AQMP on June 30, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
HT Limerick 5-07 Antrim 0-13.  Limerick scored 4 goals in first 10 mins.

Is DD doing nets or just having a fag
aye, sure its dd's fault.  Jesus mr2, for someone so knowledgeable about Antrim hurling, allegedly, this is a crap, cheap post.  He's the best we have by a country mile. Wind your neck in.

Think it was meant 'tongue-in-cheek'.   At least that's how I interpreted it.  Get the stick outta your hole.
from under what bushel did you appear? I think he's quite capable of defending himself. at the minute, no sticks up holes over here. ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:00:57 PM
Time for Antrim to drop down to Intermediate All-Ireland, where we've always really belonged . We're only fooling ourselves to think we can live with the top teams at this level. Only  two or three teams have a chance of ever winning an All-Ireland in the next 20 years,the league is only a try out for the big teams. It wouldn't matter a damn who was in goals the result would still be the same.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, to much inter club jealously to ever succeed at county level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Lucky all the Loughgiel lads were back!  ;D Jim certainly had the boys playing their own game as promised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
A bit of realism bushwhacker. The standard outside the top two teams is dire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Lucky all the Loughgiel lads were back!  ;D Jim certainly had the boys playing their own game as promised.
you're right. ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
And that inter club jealousy has just reared it's ugly in that dig at DD from hardstation who wasn't even at the match,or maybe not at a match this year. Maybe he could suggest a better keeper.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
Tony baloney.......... Get a life and admit what team you support,I bet they're real worldbeaters.......far too good for Antrim hurling I'm sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2012, 05:20:49 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:00:57 PM
Time for Antrim to drop down to Intermediate All-Ireland, where we've always really belonged . We're only fooling ourselves to think we can live with the top teams at this level. Only  two or three teams have a chance of ever winning an All-Ireland in the next 20 years,the league is only a try out for the big teams. It wouldn't matter a damn who was in goals the result would still be the same.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, to much inter club jealously to ever succeed at county level.

Unbelieveable irony in that comment.

Have never understood those who year on year raise expectations of what we are capable of. Of course we're better that that scoreline but I believe we just don't have the playing, coaching and administrative population to strategically develop players of the right calibre and get them to the level of the top 8 teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2012, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Lucky all the Loughgiel lads were back!  ;D Jim certainly had the boys playing their own game as promised.
you're right. ;-)

yeah good job our lg players where there. if dd and niel mc garry hadnt been there we good have condeded anything up to 8 goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Thank God for the Loughgiel players, who whatever you say,gave Antrim hurling some vestige of respectability this year. So no need for snide remarks from the obviously illiterate ( I said illiterate ) north-antrim-hound.Not hard to know his home club.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2012, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Thank God for the Loughgiel players, who whatever you say,gave Antrim hurling some vestige of respectability this year. So no need for snide remarks from the obviously illiterate ( I said illiterate ) north-antrim-hound.Not hard to know his home club.......

are you the clown that posted earlier in the year that Lg reserves should be playing for Antrim. yeah your views carry some weight on here. Hard luck to all the antrim players and Jim nelson. I'm sure JN and the LG players knew they where taking on a poison chalice two weeks  and done it anyway and fair play to them. Its just yourself and and some other posters thought these additions where going to make some difference. you let your superiority complex cloud you judgement and when advised otherwise you completely dismissed it. So to finish off if illiterate means not hitting the spellcheck the odd time guilty as charged but you know jack sh*t about hurling. I told you before don't reply to my post as i was addressing someone with a IQ higher than a tree stump
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 30, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
If we (Derry) are lucky enough to get past Down tomorrow, I think we will beat you on Ulster Final. I dont think Antrim will have the stomach for it and I am starting to think that maybe they arent really that far ahead of Derry. I am not on here to rub salt in the wounds either, I was really hoping that Antrim could put up a good show today, gutted for you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 30, 2012, 07:16:38 PM
McGarry at FB and Johnny Campbell at CHB were shocking, McGarry has been tried before and isn't good enough at intercounty level but I suppose he was only a stop gap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2012, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 30, 2012, 07:27:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 30, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
If we (Derry) are lucky enough to get past Down tomorrow, I think we will beat you on Ulster Final. I dont think Antrim will have the stomach for it and I am starting to think that maybe they arent really that far ahead of Derry. I am not on here to rub salt in the wounds either, I was really hoping that Antrim could put up a good show today, gutted for you.
Antrim county hurling is in a bad place right now but we are a long way off being that bad.

+1 if we want another ulster final bad derry will get blew out of the water, if we are not bothered then maybe just maybe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 30, 2012, 07:16:38 PM
McGarry at FB and Johnny Campbell at CHB were shocking, McGarry has been tried before and isn't good enough at intercounty level but I suppose he was only a stop gap.

where you at the match match who was picking up Dowling i see he helped himself to 4 goals, i presume MC Garry was on Moran who only got two. Who was marking Watson (one point from play) not like him at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2012, 07:34:44 PM
DD must have been smoking weed in the second half!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 30, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
breaking records well done to all concerned with the county set up.

Jim Nelson maybe now will get the message that he isn't the Yoda type figure the shamrocks would have you believe.

if he wanted to take men back surely Ronan McCloskey and some of the up and coming shams would have been better bets.

Johnny campbell has neither the form or enthusiam at this level.  (good service but he is gone at this level)
N McGarry never really at this intercounty level.  Barney is simply too slow at this level.

Now before shams have a go, yes they are the only respectable thing that has happened to antrim in a long time, but come on these men mentioned above are past it at this level.

O'Connell corner back (inspired)

Wallace and players need to shoulder most of blame.  Another embarassment.

no doubt plenty of drinking on way home.

Limerick on other hand are going places.

Intermediate level (no wouldn't have thought so)

Back to grass roots i am afraid, in a big way.  god knows whats ahead of us with the u21 and minor levels.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 30, 2012, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Lucky all the Loughgiel lads were back!  ;D Jim certainly had the boys playing their own game as promised.

Yeah absolutely. More Div 1 hurlers really do make a difference to our county team  :o

In all seriousness though it was coming. The set up has been a shambles starting with selectors leaving before the Westmeath game, throw in that game and the fall out from it and this is what you get.

Who's going to want the Antrim job next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 30, 2012, 08:12:12 PM
Back to Intermediate level is our best bet, the Intermediate teams of the Seventies would have beaten that lot we had out today,and the goalkeeper didn't smoke weed. We're just not good enough,full stop.No point in criticising players who were basically helping out.
Want to bet that these same "over the hill players" from LG won't lift another few titles this year ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 30, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
We just don't have the machine to ever get anywhere close to a force at IC level. All this talk of back to the drawing board implies we have the resource and personel to deliver if we only got ourselves organised. Anybody that thinks that hasn't a clue about hurling in Antrim. Interested coaches are spread so thin in clubs, that decent development squad structures are impossible to deliver IMO (never mind the purse strings and take it or leave it parents). We do what we can and those who are at the coal face deserve credit for keeping the game going. All our senior club champions over the last 30 years have represented the county admirably in the AI club championship so the standard of our top clubs has been as good as other counties.....but we as a population just dont eat and breathe the game in enough places for there to be 20-25 hurlers of true IC standard and a population who row in behind the team and their efforts (not to many Antrim hurlers get jobs on the back of their IC hurling careers). We have too many who want to try and tell us that we have a proud tradition and that we should be at the top level every year when the truth is we had 3/4 decent years at IC in our whole history. Time to reset the expectations


Genuinely think Antrim hurling would be better off not playing IC for a few years...not that thats going to happen 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 30, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
We just don't have the machine to ever get anywhere close to a force at IC level. All this talk of back to the drawing board implies we have the resource and personel to deliver if we only got ourselves organised. Anybody that thinks that hasn't a clue about hurling in Antrim. Interested coaches are spread so thin in clubs, that decent development squad structures are impossible to deliver IMO (never mind the purse strings and take it or leave it parents). We do what we can and those who are at the coal face deserve credit for keeping the game going. All our senior club champions over the last 30 years have represented the county admirably in the AI club championship so the standard of our top clubs has been as good as other counties.....but we as a population just dont eat and breathe the game in enough places for there to be 20-25 hurlers of true IC standard and a population who row in behind the team and their efforts (not to many Antrim hurlers get jobs on the back of their IC hurling careers). We have too many who want to try and tell us that we have a proud tradition and that we should be at the top level every year when the truth is we had 3/4 decent years at IC in our whole history. Time to reset the expectations


Genuinely think Antrim hurling would be better off not playing IC for a few years...not that thats going to happen

Agree with all bar Intermediate

Would we not walk the Christy Ring?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 30, 2012, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 30, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
We just don't have the machine to ever get anywhere close to a force at IC level. All this talk of back to the drawing board implies we have the resource and personel to deliver if we only got ourselves organised. Anybody that thinks that hasn't a clue about hurling in Antrim. Interested coaches are spread so thin in clubs, that decent development squad structures are impossible to deliver IMO (never mind the purse strings and take it or leave it parents). We do what we can and those who are at the coal face deserve credit for keeping the game going. All our senior club champions over the last 30 years have represented the county admirably in the AI club championship so the standard of our top clubs has been as good as other counties.....but we as a population just dont eat and breathe the game in enough places for there to be 20-25 hurlers of true IC standard and a population who row in behind the team and their efforts (not to many Antrim hurlers get jobs on the back of their IC hurling careers). We have too many who want to try and tell us that we have a proud tradition and that we should be at the top level every year when the truth is we had 3/4 decent years at IC in our whole history. Time to reset the expectations


Genuinely think Antrim hurling would be better off not playing IC for a few years...not that thats going to happen
110% right.  but lads,  not that am going back to loughgiel. but i watched through the 6 in a row and alot of people ran club mates to the ground, its not so nice hearing people talk shite,   id say any lad who was on that panel today doesnt need to be told what that was and what the whole year was. so how about the slabbers shut the f**k up and stand by the men instead of this bullshit. and MR2 the dig at DD was a joke, expected more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 30, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 30, 2012, 10:37:17 PM
OK, time to put this to bed as I think our Loch gCaol lads are taking this too seriously.

What happened today was in no way the fault of Jim Nelson, DD Quinn or any of the Loch gCaol players. I believe that any of the posts suggesting that it was were in jest, tongue in cheek and attempts to get a rise out of the Loch gCaol posters on here. We were sitting ducks for a hiding like that because of the complete shambles that JW left us in. No more, no less. So, relax lads.

Now, we were always going to be beaten handy by that Limerick team as they are on a different level to us (see skull's posts as to why) but we wouldn't have taken a beating like that only for JW and the whole shit he brought with him.

Agree - I didn't see MR2's posts as anything else but a joke. Some people and maybe us all a little need to stop being so defensive and parochial.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on June 30, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Well men after the farce today any predicitions on tomorrows Feis Final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 30, 2012, 11:59:39 PM
Tough at start,  town to get at least 1 sent of, and shamrocks to pull away at end
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 01, 2012, 12:15:57 AM
I would agree its hard to look by an LG win especially after a poor dip in form from our boys.But a good performance to build for championship would be good.I dunno about the sending off.Apart from the Portaferry game the Town have had much improved discipline!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
I don't for a second believe that anyone had any other intention than to rib BW for the tripe he was spouting a while back regarding the makeup of the county squad. The problems run deeper and a wiser man would have known it. People were just having their fun ... end of. No one will ever blame DD for being a poor goalkeeper because he isnt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cannon Fodder on July 01, 2012, 12:46:01 AM
Was at todays match not good viewing at all. No fight, no passion not typical of any Antrim teams that i have watched before. Also alot of individuals out of their depth in my opinion but at least they want to put on the saffron jersey. Even our more experienced players got the run around. Body language didnt look good certainly problems to be ironed out but who would want this post at the moment.  :-[

Not sure on limerick took their foot off the gas for 15 or 20 minsfirst half  cannot afford to do  that against the big guns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 01, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
I don't for a second believe that anyone had any other intention than to rib BW for the tripe he was spouting a while back regarding the makeup of the county squad. The problems run deeper and a wiser man would have known it. People were just having their fun ... end of. No one will ever blame DD for being a poor goalkeeper because he isn't.

+1 plenty of respect for the LG players and JN(no respect for BW and he does leave himself wide open for it). I'm a big antrim fan even after today. I think everyone on here that wasn't wearing red and white tinted glasses knew we where in for a pasting but i didn't think we would leak 8 goals. we played limerick last year and where giving there fill of it in Parnell park to KS was sent off so i don't think we are that bad or limerick that good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 01, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Talking about tripe and "wiser man"...theskull 1... and " no respect" from north-antrim -hound."Red and white" tinted glasses etc. etc..
I can fairly get you pompous lot going....works every time.....I enjoy leaving myself "wide open for it",eg. LG reserves on county team etc.
you fall for it every time.You take yourselves far too seriously.This discussion about Antrim hurling has been going round in circles for far too long,you're opinion (or mine) doesn't matter a toss to those in power.
We haven't the players or back up to get any further than we are.....you should know that by now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
For anyone to think I was taking the piss out of DD Quinn is completely of their rocker, I wasn't at the match so can't comment of his performance nor that of the defenders around him allowing their players to have that opportunity in the first place to shoot on goal!!!

So wind your fooking necks in, I'm all for defending my own club players but you Loughgiel lads take it to a different level. Was busy yesterday so never got to the computer to see all the abuse I took for a little jibe, mainly at the set up in fairness and not DD.

Will probably comment on this later if I get the chance. "Shambols"  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 02, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
How did the feis go?
Title: http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/gaelic-games/limerick-hurlers-crush-antrim-1-
Post by: drici on July 02, 2012, 09:41:24 AM
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Limerick 8-26  Antrim 1-15

RECORDS were smashed all round in the Gaelic Grounds on Saturday as the Limerick senior hurlers eased into round three of the All Ireland Qualifiers.


The harsh reality is that the game was all but over after 11 minutes when Limerick were 4-02 to 0-02 ahead.

Just like the 6-21 to 1-11 win over Laois the previous Saturday, Limerick certainly approached this game in the right mentality and set about putting the game beyond doubt as soon as possible.

While no one likes to see any side on the end of a result like this, there is a welcome ruthless steak developing in this Limerick side.

When hot favorites likes Limerick were the trick is to put the underdogs on the back foot early and not allow any suggestion of an upset. The backdoor route can often throw up shocks or uneasy victories, but John Allen's Limerick have gone about the two games to date in a most impressive fashion.

Including the Tipperary game, Allen and his management team of John Kiely, Eamonn Meskell and Donach O'Donnell have now given championship match experience to 26 players – just four on the panel are yet to feature.

Real options are developing and hopefully they could yet get a game when all 30 players are match fit but at present Conor Allis, Paul Browne, Kevin Downes all missed the Antrim game injured, while captain David Breen was forced off injured after just 15 minutes.

Next up for Limerick will be a tie on the weekend of July 14/15 against either Clare or Dublin, or Cork or Offaly. That tie will be played at a neutral venue and a victory would return Limerick to the Quarter Final stage that they reached last season.

If nothing else the combined 14-47 scored against Laois and Antrim means that, for once, confidence should be high among the exciting talents of the young forwards.

Again this one-sided win over Antrim displayed the scoring power that now exists in Limerick and while the opposition was far from impressive, the Shannonsiders still had to put the ball between the posts and indeed notched just six wides, compared to 17 for Antrim.

Antrim won the toss and opted to play with the wind and from the throw in the Limerick tactic was clear.

Firstly Thomas O'Brien ran at the defence and when he laid off to Sean Tobin he rattled home the first goal inside a minute.

Four minutes later, David Breen again ran directly at the defence and this time it was his club colleague Shane Dowling that found the net.

And, the trend continued with Niall Moran and Dowling adding goals in succession in the 7th and 8th minutes.

At 4-02 to 0-02 and with Antrim playing with the strong wind the result was already a forgone conclusion with all of 59 minutes still to play.

The fifth goal came in the 16th minute when this time it was Graeme Mulcahy that raced through the defence to net the net.

Dowling added a free to leave it 5-03 to 0-05.

Limerick then completely took the foot off the pedal for the remaining 20-odd minutes.

Antrim were allowed too much space and duly brought their tally to 13 points and it could have been more but for their 11 wides.

Limerick simply didn't complete for the closing 20 minutes of the half, although there were late points from sub Declan Hannon, Thomas O'Brien and Mulcahy to leave it 5-07 to 0-13 at the break.

The lacklustre attitude of the second quarter was completely absent on the change of ends. Clearly questions were asked of the players at Half Time and unfortunately for an Antrim point of view Limerick were very impressive in the second half.

The three goals of the half came in the 4th minute (Dowling), 16th (Moran) and 17th Mulcahy).

Antrim scored just twice – McAuley point in the seventh minute and then McManus goaled in the dying seconds.

They almost grabbed a second goal but an injury time penalty from Liam Watson was saved by a combination of Donal O'Grady and debutante Aaron Murphy.


SCORERS
Limerick: Shane Dowling 3-9 (0-5 frees, 0-1 '65), Graeme Mulcahy 2-4, Declan Hannon 0-6, Sean Tobin 1-3, Niall Moran 2-0, Seanie O'Brien 0-2, Thomas O'Brien, Richie McCarthy 0-1 each.

Antrim: Liam Watson 0-6 (five frees), Neil McManus 1-1, Shane McNaughton 0-3, Barney McAuley 0-2, Neil McAuley, Eddie McClosky 0-1 each.

LIMERICK – Nickie Quaid; Stephen Walsh, Richie McCarthy, Tom Condon; Wayne McNamara, Donal O'Grady, Gavin O'Mahony; Thomas O'Brien, James Ryan; Shane Dowling, Brian Geary, David Breen; Graeme Mulcahy, Niall Moran, Sean Tobin. Subs: Declan Hannon for Breen (injured - 15mins), Aaron Murphy for Quaid (injured - half time), Seanie O'Brien for Geary (51 mins), Shane O'Neill for Condon (52mins), Seamus Hickey for McNamara (54mins).

ANTRIM – Damien Quinn; PJ O'Connell, Neil McGarry, Aaron Graffin; Neil McAuley, Johnny Campbell, Michael Gettens; Barney McAuley, Shane McNaughton; Eddie McClosky, Neil McManus, Barry McFall; Liam Watson, Conor Carson, Paul Shiels. Subs: John Kerr for O'Connell, inj (20mins), Joey Scullion for McFall (h-t) Michael Herron for Gettens (46mins).

REFEREE – Johnny Ryan (Tipperary).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
For anyone to think I was taking the piss out of DD Quinn is completely of their rocker, I wasn't at the match so can't comment of his performance nor that of the defenders around him allowing their players to have that opportunity in the first place to shoot on goal!!!

So wind your fooking necks in, I'm all for defending my own club players but you Loughgiel lads take it to a different level. Was busy yesterday so never got to the computer to see all the abuse I took for a little jibe, mainly at the set up in fairness and not DD.

Will probably comment on this later if I get the chance. "Shambols"  ;)
you're a good one for the jibes at loughgiel mr2, if you don't want the reaction you got, think before you spout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
For anyone to think I was taking the piss out of DD Quinn is completely of their rocker, I wasn't at the match so can't comment of his performance nor that of the defenders around him allowing their players to have that opportunity in the first place to shoot on goal!!!

So wind your fooking necks in, I'm all for defending my own club players but you Loughgiel lads take it to a different level. Was busy yesterday so never got to the computer to see all the abuse I took for a little jibe, mainly at the set up in fairness and not DD.

Will probably comment on this later if I get the chance. "Shambols"  ;)
you're a good one for the jibes at loughgiel mr2, if you don't want the reaction you got, think before you spout.

It would not have mattered who was doing nets, had he have been a Galls man doing nets I'd have posted the same thing. The reaction didn't bother me though. By the way I was Loughgiels biggest supporter during the campaign. went down to last two semi finals at Parnell FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 02, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
just wondering what odds Derry are to beat the saffs

anyword of the managerial candidates???

The way things work in 'Jerry World' he might fancy a rip at the hot seat again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 02, 2012, 03:02:28 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 02, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
How did the feis go?
As far as the senior hurling was concerned it was a tame enough affair with no real bite to it. some decent passages of play but completely lacking in atmosphere and any sense of occasion. Has the feis competition been devalued by last years debacle??
I havent watched any senior camogie in a while but the ladies certainly didnt hold back, some good players on show.
McMullan cup final, the worst I can remember, completely dominated by young McN...some player though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 02, 2012, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 02, 2012, 03:02:28 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 02, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
How did the feis go?
As far as the senior hurling was concerned it was a tame enough affair with no real bite to it. some decent passages of play but completely lacking in atmosphere and any sense of occasion. Has the feis competition been devalued by last years debacle??
I havent watched any senior camogie in a while but the ladies certainly didnt hold back, some good players on show.
McMullan cup final, the worst I can remember, completely dominated by young McN...some player though.

The senior game wasn't too bad I thought. Both teams missing players (Ballycastle probably more disadvantaged because of the strength of their squad doesn't allow them to keep to the same level- Ronan Donnelly making a comeback for example!). Loughgiel always looked like they were going to win but it wasn't overly comfortable. Strange start with EMcC handpassing the ball over the bar which I am sure is illegal? MIBAG to confirm this! Wasn't an awful lot of bite to the game either.

As regards to the McMullan Cup, we have a strong team, which is lead by Christy McNaughton who as Last Man said is some player. The Cushendun v Glenravel game was quite entertaining which was a good physical battle to say the least!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AshwoodGael on July 02, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
As a Limerick man I arrived at match saturday evening a few minutes late and the game was all but over at that stage. Some cretin had parked in a disabled spot and took me an age to get wheelchair out of car. As i said it was over when i got in.

In fairness lads the quality of ye're players isnt up to it and the lack of effort ?? What was the point of the manager introduciing new players to ye're panel and from his own club I understand too.

As the old saying goes you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Ye have to accept ye dont have the players or the commitment either. From reading the posts ye do be putting on here ye are impossible to please.  Jaysus Seomroga in Exille you'd want to chill out. Your like a man that thinks he knows it all with some inside track or whatever. Ye seem to be more interested in club matches which is fair enough.

Your man J Wallace  was down here in Limerick and all i can say from talking to the lads I know on the county scene is he really knows his stuff and is dedicated to the last. They'd have him back in the morning I have been told by several. . I think maybe he is a bit too professional for ye're set up just yet. If I was ye i wouldnt honestly question his input as i dont think he's a miracle worker. If ye're posts are anything to go by ye seem to do an amount of infighting like we used do for few years. Stop the bickering between ye're few senior clubs and work togetehr.

I know we havent won anything here in limerick since the league couple years ago so a bit like ye I probably shouldnt be throing stones either.

Just my thoughts and as someone said maybe the christy Ring is for ye !!!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2012, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: AshwoodGael on July 02, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
As a Limerick man I arrived at match saturday evening a few minutes late and the game was all but over at that stage.

In fairness lads the quality of ye're players isnt up to it and the lack of effort ?? What was the point of the manager introduciing new players to ye're panel and from his own club I understand too.

As the old saying goes you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Ye have to accept ye dont have the players or the commitment either. From reading the posts ye do be putting on here ye are impossible to please.  Jaysus Seomroga in Exille you'd want to chill out. Your like a man that thinks he knows it all with some inside track or whatever. Ye seem to be more interested in club matches which is fair enough.

Your man J Wallace  was down here in Limerick and all i can say from talking to the lads I know on the county scene is he knows his stuff and is dedicated to the last. They'd have him back in the morning. I think maybe he is a bit too professional for ye're set up just yet.

I know we havent won anything here in limerick since the league couple years ago so a bit like ye I probably shouldnt be throing stones either.

Just my thoughts and as someone said maybe the christy Ring is for ye !!!

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

WUM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 03, 2012, 01:04:03 AM
Quote from: AshwoodGael on July 02, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
As a Limerick man I arrived at match saturday evening a few minutes late and the game was all but over at that stage. Some cretin had parked in a disabled spot and took me an age to get wheelchair out of car. As i said it was over when i got in.

In fairness lads the quality of ye're players isnt up to it and the lack of effort ?? What was the point of the manager introduciing new players to ye're panel and from his own club I understand too.

As the old saying goes you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Ye have to accept ye dont have the players or the commitment either. From reading the posts ye do be putting on here ye are impossible to please.  Jaysus Seomroga in Exille you'd want to chill out. Your like a man that thinks he knows it all with some inside track or whatever. Ye seem to be more interested in club matches which is fair enough.

Your man J Wallace  was down here in Limerick and all i can say from talking to the lads I know on the county scene is he really knows his stuff and is dedicated to the last. They'd have him back in the morning I have been told by several. . I think maybe he is a bit too professional for ye're set up just yet. If I was ye i wouldnt honestly question his input as i dont think he's a miracle worker. If ye're posts are anything to go by ye seem to do an amount of infighting like we used do for few years. Stop the bickering between ye're few senior clubs and work togetehr.

I know we havent won anything here in limerick since the league couple years ago so a bit like ye I probably shouldnt be throing stones either.

Just my thoughts and as someone said maybe the christy Ring is for ye !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA  for sure a WUM.  99.9% sure from Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 03, 2012, 01:09:30 AM
IMO I don't see why we don't try another year in the Christy Ring, it has helped teams like Westmeath recently, and one year, if we win fair enough, but taking tankings like that on Sunday do nobody any harm. How is the u21 set up going, I know they were trying to put a lot more emphasis on it this year, so fair play to them, however are the players buying in to it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 03, 2012, 07:04:14 AM
Quote from: AshwoodGael on July 02, 2012, 10:47:11 PM
As a Limerick man I arrived at match saturday evening a few minutes late and the game was all but over at that stage. Some cretin had parked in a disabled spot and took me an age to get wheelchair out of car. As i said it was over when i got in.

In fairness lads the quality of ye're players isnt up to it and the lack of effort ?? What was the point of the manager introduciing new players to ye're panel and from his own club I understand too.

As the old saying goes you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Ye have to accept ye dont have the players or the commitment either. From reading the posts ye do be putting on here ye are impossible to please.  Jaysus Seomroga in Exille you'd want to chill out. Your like a man that thinks he knows it all with some inside track or whatever. Ye seem to be more interested in club matches which is fair enough.

Your man J Wallace  was down here in Limerick and all i can say from talking to the lads I know on the county scene is he really knows his stuff and is dedicated to the last. They'd have him back in the morning I have been told by several. . I think maybe he is a bit too professional for ye're set up just yet. If I was ye i wouldnt honestly question his input as i dont think he's a miracle worker. If ye're posts are anything to go by ye seem to do an amount of infighting like we used do for few years. Stop the bickering between ye're few senior clubs and work togetehr.

I know we havent won anything here in limerick since the league couple years ago so a bit like ye I probably shouldnt be throing stones either.

Just my thoughts and as someone said maybe the christy Ring is for ye !!!
ashwoodgael=bogashcaman perhaps? Wum for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 03, 2012, 10:57:09 AM
We've no real county tradition here in Antrim and in particular in Belfast.  It really isn't an aspiration of a lot of people to play senior county unfortunately.  All the love is for the clubs in Antrim and not for the county.

I understand that success builds that tradition.  For example, for all the success that the footballers have had in recent years (Ulster Final, running Kerry close and at least being competitive), there has been a bit of a swell in terms of support amongst your ordinary Joe's out there who might not even be a member of a club ala Dublin supporters.

But let's cut to the chase, its down to each and every individual club to get up there to the standards set by our big 2/3/4.  I believe it is much harder for city clubs to do this but even still, there is never more than 2 clubs coming out of the city who are as good as each other.  Until every club makes a genuine effort to get numbers, raise the standard of coaching and players and be adventurous, then the status quo will remain.

Another important point to make though is that the county board, Ulster council need to start making demands that Belfast, Ireland's second city, is given the same treatment that Dublin has been given.  Why wouldn't they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 03, 2012, 11:13:32 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 03, 2012, 01:09:30 AM
IMO I don't see why we don't try another year in the Christy Ring, it has helped teams like Westmeath recently, and one year, if we win fair enough, but taking tankings like that on Sunday do nobody any harm. How is the u21 set up going, I know they were trying to put a lot more emphasis on it this year, so fair play to them, however are the players buying in to it?

I don't see the point TBH. When we were in it we were the ones handing out tankings to Roscommon, Kildare etc and it really was a waste of time. The way the CR is now, Carlow, Westmeath etc have all won it and are in the McCarthy so it would in reality be 2 levels we drop to. I don't see the benefit of this at all. Westmeath and Carlow have made progress, not because of their CR wins, but they are getting the structures right from underage and the county's don't seem to be blighted by all this childish in-fighting and yapping that we are subject too here. There are too many buffoons in this county that need to grow up and realise there is a bigger picture, not just about their own wee areas, parish's or clubs, but the long-term future of the sport in this county, never mind winning things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AshwoodGael on July 03, 2012, 11:18:07 AM
Sorry cuz, not used to northern slang. What does wum mean ?

No one seems to disagree with my sentiments anyway lads  which is good.

It shows maybe ye are mature enough  to take criticism on the chin. I wasnt meaning to belittle ye but its no harm ye know yere limitations to be honest.

Anyway, we all love the game of hurling. I havent been able to play it since I fell off f&&&ing tractor three years ago now and lost a leg. I had to start from the bottom up and ye should do the same in the christy ring lads.

Best of luck in future endeavours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 03, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
No amount of 'ye' are going to convince anyone.
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Post by: AQMP on July 03, 2012, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: AshwoodGael on July 03, 2012, 11:18:07 AM
Sorry cuz, not used to northern slang. What does wum mean ?

No one seems to disagree with my sentiments anyway lads  which is good.

It shows maybe ye are mature enough  to take criticism on the chin. I wasnt meaning to belittle ye but its no harm ye know yere limitations to be honest.

Anyway, we all love the game of hurling. I havent been able to play it since I fell off f&&&ing tractor three years ago now and lost a leg. I had to start from the bottom up and ye should do the same in the christy ring lads.

Best of luck in future endeavours.

Olly..is that you?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2012, 11:18:49 PM
I'm not sure if entering the Christy Ring would suit Antrim, ok you'd win it but it would probably be at a canter.
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Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2012, 11:40:56 PM
The westmeaths, laois's , maybe carlow and then teams like antrim are too strong for christy ring and then too weak for the liam mccarthy.

Our hope is totake one or two scalps a year if possible.

Last time we played christy ring the final was over after about ten minutes - wasn't competitive at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2012, 11:51:58 PM
It's not that many years ago we were being convinced of being close to Offaly and Wexford never mind Laois and Carlow. The current setup does a huge disservice to the tweener teams like Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shara Fuggers on July 04, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Very interesting, some of you boys should run for the managers job when Nelson departs.
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Post by: Shara Fuggers on July 04, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2012, 11:40:56 PM
The westmeaths, laois's , maybe carlow and then teams like antrim are too strong for christy ring and then too weak for the liam mccarthy.

Our hope is totake one or two scalps a year if possible.

Last time we played christy ring the final was over after about ten minutes - wasn't competitive at all.
The two scalps you allude to, would that be the county secretary and JW by chance?  Count me in, I'm sharpening the blade  :(
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Post by: drici on July 04, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
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LIMERICK hurler Wayne McNamara is happy with his side's new found ruthless streak after they recorded big wins over Antrim and Laois over the last two weekends.


Limerick were 6-21 to 1-11 winners over Laois in the opening round of All Ireland Hurling Qualifiers before following that up with an 8-26 to 1-15 win over Antrim in the Gaelic Grounds last weekend. They now await the winners of Cork/Offaly and Clare/Dublin in the next round.

"We want to consider ourselves a good team and to do that you have to kill off games," explained the Adare man of the new killer instinct.

"We went out to blitz them early and then at half time we questioned ourselves about what would a good team do and that was to kill them off and we came out in the first few minutes of the second half and put them away," he outlined.

"We are going in the right direction – it's work in progress but everyone is working hard," he said.

Although the win over Antrim was one way traffic from Sean Tobin's opening minute goal, McNamara said that there would still be lessons to be learned.

"You can always take positives and negatives like we have all year – in these games you get to work on a pattern of play and today it was a bit better than the last day. We played the same pattern against Tipp and I think every day it gets better," he said.

"The first 15-20 minutes we played very well and then we died and that can happen after scoring five goals. We are only in year two of development and maybe it was a bit of inexperience and when you blitz them like that maybe it was a bit of complacency," he explained.

Limerick notched 5-3 in the opening 17 minutes but then faded and allowed Antrim to register 13 points when wind assisted in the first half. The final 20 minutes of the half saw Limerick score just four points – compared to eight for Antrim.

"We want to kill them off in the fist 15-minutes so we kept going for the jugular and then when we got in at half time we spoke about what a good team would do and that was kill the game off," said McNamara.

With 25 and 33 point victories in the qualifiers, could there is a fear that Limerick were not sufficiently tested through the backdoor route?

"There is," accepted McNamara.

"But there was against Tipp as well and we didn't do too bad. Competition is there for places and lads want to win. Training is going well and everyone is working hard and its all good. Lads are fresh and there is an honesty there in every training session - we are getting stronger and fitter," he outlined.

In two weeks time they'll be up against Clare, Dublin, Offaly or Cork.

"What we need is a big win," said McNamara.

"We are looking forward to it - We want to play good teams and beat them. We will go out to win - it's going to be a massive game but we will approach it positively. We are only in year two and we have got to realise that too. I just turned 26 and I am one of the oldest on the panel so there is lots to come – the average age would be 22/23."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 05, 2012, 11:36:04 AM
Let's face everything's gone downhill since Mr D.Cahill departed these shores.Come back all is forgiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 05, 2012, 01:23:59 PM
How much will they charge in to casement on Sunday...hope they dont rip the balls clean out of it as I'd like to bring my dad along to it....if they do it will be a few pints watching the games on RTE....a pity if they do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 05, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Id imagine it will be the same £15 for the covered stand, £13 for the terrace no? In around that anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2012, 02:12:32 PM
Dinny Cahill had antrim competing at as high a level the players are capable of competing at.Was always a pity to see him go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sheamy on July 05, 2012, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Id imagine it will be the same £15 for the covered stand, £13 for the terrace no? In around that anyway

Terrace & Unreserved Seating
U16s FREE
Student & Senior Citizen: £8/€10
Adult: £12/€15

£12 in and go wherever you want...Be wild funny if Derry won  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 05, 2012, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 05, 2012, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 05, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
Id imagine it will be the same £15 for the covered stand, £13 for the terrace no? In around that anyway

Terrace & Unreserved Seating
U16s FREE
Student & Senior Citizen: £8/€10
Adult: £12/€15

£12 in and go wherever you want...Be wild funny if Derry won  ;D

why would it b funny are you a Derry man. not funny if your a saffron, i think everyone knows if antrim go in to this match on full cry then its game over but if our lads are thinking we have won ten of these things in a row and we are still getting chinned when we go down south then it could be a different story. the result is not down to Derry all they can do is go out and die with there boots on and hope our players are still in a state of dejection. one thing is not funny are those prices
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2012, 10:20:08 PM
Derry never really fear Antrim even when results would suggest we should  - no offence lads but the saffron jersey does not put the fear  of God in a Derry man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2012, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2012, 10:20:08 PM
Derry never really fear Antrim even when results would suggest we should  - no offence lads but the saffron jersey does not put the fear  of God in a Derry man.

Those 3 or 4 wins in 100 odd years are getting to your head  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 06, 2012, 03:11:41 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
GREAT STOCK!!!   antrim by 18 at least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
You're some boys.

Your biggest challenge is your county board and some of your attitudes to hurling in general.

Some hurlers have went through Derry and been wasted over the years and you've probably as good a feeder school as any in antrim which may explain the lack of fear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
And a lot more division besides!  Deep rooted envy by Cushendall and the likes has created even more division.  But sure Sambo, played his part well ::).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sheamy on July 06, 2012, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
You're some boys.

Your biggest challenge is your county board and some of your attitudes to hurling in general.

Some hurlers have went through Derry and been wasted over the years and you've probably as good a feeder school as any in antrim which may explain the lack of fear.

typical lazy analysis...if all else fails blame the county board. Or are you blaming the specialist hurling committee?

As for attitudes, yeah some people don't follow hurling in the same way hurling people wouldn't go near a football match. You'll find that in any county from Cork to Derry.

I'm no expert but my view is that Derry doesn't have enough top quality native hurling coaches. Those that are there are paid by the Ulster council and can't take teams. Christy O'Connor said exactly the same in the Irish News yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on July 06, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
One of those Ulster Council employees is managing a club team in Derry as far as I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sheamy on July 06, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on July 06, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
One of those Ulster Council employees is managing a club team in Derry as far as I know.

yep, he can't take county teams though or different clubs apart from his own as far as I know. Same as Tony Scullion with Ballinascreen footballers.
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Post by: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
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Post by: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
The audacity of Shane McNaughton!  There was a major Cushendall footprint on this entire debacle.  Are the Cushendall players, team mentors, county secretary all now beyond reproach?  Only in Antrim  >:(
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Post by: oisinog on July 06, 2012, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
The audacity of Shane McNaughton!  There was a major Cushendall footprint on this entire debacle.  Are the Cushendall players, team mentors, county secretary all now beyond reproach?  Only in Antrim  >:(

I dont see anything wrong with this.

Shane has been honest not only has blamed the managment he has also blamed the players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 06, 2012, 03:38:59 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 06, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on July 06, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
One of those Ulster Council employees is managing a club team in Derry as far as I know.

yep, he can't take county teams though or different clubs apart from his own as far as I know. Same as Tony Scullion with Ballinascreen footballers.

Yes that's the rules - but routinely bent with money the common theme.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on July 06, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
The audacity of Shane McNaughton!  There was a major Cushendall footprint on this entire debacle.  Are the Cushendall players, team mentors, county secretary all now beyond reproach?  Only in Antrim  >:(
in SMN defence. he was nothing to do with any of it.  but its nice that somepeople know the truth
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Post by: Megaman on July 06, 2012, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 06, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
The audacity of Shane McNaughton!  There was a major Cushendall footprint on this entire debacle.  Are the Cushendall players, team mentors, county secretary all now beyond reproach?  Only in Antrim  >:(
in SMN defence. he was nothing to do with any of it.  but its nice that somepeople know the truth

Care to explain in more detail?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 06, 2012, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 06, 2012, 12:02:06 AM
We have 8 clubs - you have 4 divisions.   So we done well to win 3 or 4- my point was not that anyhow, it was more that no matter what the form book was were never feared of Antrim, thats just in our makeup, good stock we are
You're some boys.

Your biggest challenge is your county board and some of your attitudes to hurling in general.

Some hurlers have went through Derry and been wasted over the years and you've probably as good a feeder school as any in antrim which may explain the lack of fear.

typical lazy analysis...if all else fails blame the county board. Or are you blaming the specialist hurling committee?

As for attitudes, yeah some people don't follow hurling in the same way hurling people wouldn't go near a football match. You'll find that in any county from Cork to Derry.

I'm no expert but my view is that Derry doesn't have enough top quality native hurling coaches. Those that are there are paid by the Ulster council and can't take teams. Christy O'Connor said exactly the same in the Irish News yesterday.

There's nothing lazy about it.  Brian Mcgilligan made his feelings well know the other year.

Even in your own thread here the disdain shown to hurling is remarkable. Maybe it's like this in other counties however other counties haven't had the players going through their ranks which you have had.

You can have 30 footballers in the panel so there should be room for better in the hurling.

Maybe you'll beat antrim, though I'd like to think not, but you are still greatly underachieving irrespective. Some of those st pats teams have done as well as any antrim teams and you should be so much better than you are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sheamy on July 06, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
I suppose county boards stay constant then do they? It's the mythical county board which never changes, is it? Sorry, I stick by my lazy analysis charge if you don't even know that much. In fact, you've made my point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2012, 10:07:30 PM
Fill us in then Sheamy. Development squads, outside coaches,development of coaches inside, timing of hurling leagues, conflict of football and hurling club games, investment into continuing development of underage players into senior players(e.g. emphasis on u21). How does that all work?

Just because a county boards personnel change doesn't mean attitudes do.

Stick by lazy analysis if you want but if you ask me that's not much better than lazy analysis.  8)
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Post by: Sleeping giant on July 07, 2012, 03:30:34 AM
Quote from: Megaman on July 06, 2012, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 06, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Shara Fuggers on July 06, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: drici on July 06, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
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Shane McNaughton has slammed the "amateurish" goings-on in Antrim hurling.

The departure and return and re-departure of manager Jerry Wallace coupled with the decision to appoint an interim boss - Jim Nelson - made it a crazy summer for the Saffrons, culminating in last weekend's Gaelic Grounds massacre.

Ahead of Sunday's Ulster SHC final clash with Derry, Cushendall clubman McNaughton says the events are simply not good enough at senior intercounty level:

"Obviously everything that was going on in the background didn't help but we can't use that as an excuse," the ace marksman comments in The Irish News.

"For training, we didn't know what managers, let alone what players were going to be there leading up to the game. There are a lot of fellas who need to take a look at themselves, including most of the players.

"The things that were going on behind the scenes were ridiculous; it was childish.

"We didn't know what managers were turning up for training on Thursday nights. It was just a bit of a joke, the whole thing.

"It was the most amateurish thing you could get. When the rest of the GAA has such a professional set-up, ours was like an U14 team.

"Everyone was wondering what was going on. You get to the stage where you don't know whether to laugh or cry."

"The supporters who travelled down to the game is who I feel for, boys that paid £50 for diesel and paid in to watch it, then after ten minutes the match is over.
The audacity of Shane McNaughton!  There was a major Cushendall footprint on this entire debacle.  Are the Cushendall players, team mentors, county secretary all now beyond reproach?  Only in Antrim  >:(
in SMN defence. he was nothing to do with any of it.  but its nice that somepeople know the truth

Care to explain in more detail?
not really,   tried telling few home truths weeks back, got shot down!!   whole country talking bout it now tho!!   DELIGHTED that true hurling people know the truth about the childish shite that went on this year.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 07, 2012, 09:16:32 AM
Sure I was put down for telling them all about the goings on behind closed doors as well sg. All came out in the end. Well, most of it.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on July 07, 2012, 12:09:09 PM
The sad and sickening thing is, they will all have the hands out looking looking for the GPA money and the AI tickets, while the sad volunteer will struggle to get anything!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 07, 2012, 12:37:47 PM
I am not absolving the players at all but I don't think there can be much dispute that administrators (paid) in Antrim are sub-standard. For a long time we have stagnated and suffered due to a blend if incompetence and self interest. Maybe their agenda is more driven by the points lonely1 makes and such - but it's all self preservation & promotion before fulfilling their actual roles.

The county chairman I believe to be a genuine guy - I have spoken to him on several occasions. So genuine in fact that he does not hide the short comings of other county officials. Let's face it we know some of these guys and they have no pedigree.

But the real problem?
There's nobody ready to replace them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AshwoodGael on July 07, 2012, 02:35:31 PM
Hey Cuzies , after the hammering we gave ye a couple weeks ago i took an interest in ye're match this weekend but the madness in ye're county is more craic altogether.

Rumour has it that Derry will have to tog out in an away strip tomorrow to avoid confusing all the loughgiel players ye are putting out or in fact ye are togging out in Loughgiel colours.

Ye're County secretaryFrancie Quinlan  appears to be going on a belated media war to try and save his backside. Its a bit tasteless as i heard he was too busy playing golf when ye're last manager  was under attack. Reading what i saw he knows nothing about loyalty it appears lads. Typical of most county secretaries only interested in looking after number one and not the bigger picture.

He seems very happy with Jim Nelsons performance though which should give ye great cause for optimism. Nelson seems to get a bit of fighting spirit going even if its only on the team bus between themselves  by all accounts.

I'd say ye will have some job trying to convince someone to take on the job with the in fighting and back stabbing. they call my city stab city but tis nothing compared to ye're back stabbing between supporters players and board. Sad lot/

Quinlan said ye are on the lookout for a team manager but id say ye need more of a childminder or something like that at this stage

keep the faith Cuzes and maybe the christy ring is a bit optimistic for ye at this stage. Let shamrocks eneter it instead maybe. cad a cheapan tu seomra/seomroga leithreas  as lathair ???

keep on hurling


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on July 07, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
the problems in antrim hurling didnt just appear this year. they also are not the fault of jerry wallis, sambo,dick o kane, dinny cahill or may i add the loughguile or c'dall playing contingent this year. what we are now seeing is the culmination of 20 wasted years at grassroots level. listen 20 years ago when we had a at least half decent county team & our possible route to an all ireland final was fantastically easier than it is now because we got into a semi automatically, ONCE & only ONCE did we ever manage to drag ourselves into the final. now please god tell me how any sane minded person actually believed that the introduction of the qualifiers & the reality of playing up to 3 games against good opposition before we could even smell a semi was going to suit us??  this has now made it ten times more difficult for us rightly so fairer for better teams than us ie losing munster finalists who previously were out. what we should perhaps have tried after the humiliation of the '89 final was to go away & examine the structures in all the clubs in the county. emphasis should have been on the same top level of coaching the skills in ALL the clubs & a style of play adaptable & familiar to all the clubs so that like in most other counties you have a steady stream of capable players being sent from the clubs to represent the county. but what actually happened here was that the clubs were left to their own devices & some fared better than others. b'castle who were a real force in club hurling in the 70's & 80's seemed for years to ignore the underage set up & have paid the price ever since.only now are they starting to turn the corner & reap the rewards of a good underage set up implimented about 10 years ago. dunloy as well brought their own great senior team right up through the ranks & swept all before them. sadly now their underage teams are not producing the same level of players. the teams in the city have barring the johnnies & occassionally rossa havent produced anything of real worth. even today c'dall have a very good underage system but i can put my hand on my heart & say that neil,shane & arron are the only 3 players good enough to play inter county hurling. thats whats really frightening. we have been there or thereabouts at senior level now for nearly 30 years & we have only 3 players up to inter county level. loughguile had 6 starters last week & rightlly so as at the minute they are the best club team in the country. but when we strip it back to the bones i would say that although all these players are definitely good enough to be on the antrim county team ,i dont believe they are all good enough for inter county level. in my opinion we need to get into all the clubs & put in place structures where by everyone is being coached to the same highest levels & that most of the clubs can compete at all age groups. you would then naturally have a better hurler being sent to the county. this is not a 2 or 3 year fix. this could take 10 years or more but we have to start at the very earliest age we can. so what of our current squad? well this may seem ruthless but we should play christy ring & if we won it at a canter as some suggest (i dont think for a second we would) then so what,it hasnt bothered anyone that we have won 11 ulster titles in a row. for me the current squads its too late to ever make any impact on the liam mc carthy but that doesnt mean the honest players & management shouldnt get just reward of all ireland success in a lower grade. for now i would forget about running the county team like a club team. let them train once a week & play their league & c'ship games. the other nights of the week they would be of far more use training with their clubs teams where they would be helping to bring on their club mates & hopefully raising the standard of the club hurling & surely the natural progression is that when the club hurling is stronger & far more competitive the county can only benefit. we have tried everything else, why not this? the only obstacle in my view would be a very few people who are benefitting financially through jobs within the county who legitimise their roles by cintinuously championing the idea that we are in fact capable of challenging for an AI
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2012, 05:59:08 PM
Paragraphs man, paragraphs...

Ashwoodgael you're about as much from limerick as the rest of us on this antrim thread but whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 07, 2012, 09:27:20 PM
All quiet on the Antrim front tonight, you'll be happy to hear.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 08, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
talking to some of the panelists last nite in the cathederal quarter.  Will not say at what time.

would like to say that will be watching the leinster final today on the box, as for the ulster final unless the derry men travel i would say around 200 people at the absolute max.

see the loughgiel men getting the nod

SIE, have to make the point don't think its wise starting the shams that have just arrived recently for simply the following reason

they are not up to speed fitness wise, the antrim lads were if nothing else fit, these shams were fit and have been pretty inactive the since st paddys.  Even maybe abusive to their bodies (as they say).

there should probably be about 7 in the starting line up, but only if they are fully fit and part of the panel for a few months.  Nelson for all his experience should know better.  the wee man let himself down this past couple of weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Antrim 1-03 Derry 0-02. Carson scored the goal after great work between him and Watson. Winker looks up for this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 04:01:13 PM
McManus playing a blinder. 1-07 - 0-04.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
Ht. 1-09 - 0-05. We should have at least 4 or 5 goals. Derry keeper having a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 08, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
Just watching Galway giving the Cats a bit of a hiding here. Their intensity in their tackling is awesome. 

But can't help notice that in Antrim, the ref would have blown his whistle a thousand times by now.  An awful lot to say for just letting it go instead of having a match decided by free takers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
Derry losing their heads. Down to 13 men. couple sent off in last few minutes. 3-16 - 0-07. derry a poor enough side with a good keeper. Could have had 8 goals so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
Ft. 3-18 - 0-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 08, 2012, 07:20:05 PM
You're prediction was the closest sleeping giant.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 08, 2012, 07:44:19 PM
I no my stuff ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.

Anyone at the minor match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 08, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.

Anyone at the minor match?
We had the better team on paper but just didn't play as a cohesive unit. Sambo has had trouble getting this group to train and I think it showed. But for McGoldricks free taking we would have been out the gate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 09, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: auld stock on July 07, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
the problems in antrim hurling didnt just appear this year. they also are not the fault of jerry wallis, sambo,dick o kane, dinny cahill or may i add the loughguile or c'dall playing contingent this year. what we are now seeing is the culmination of 20 wasted years at grassroots level. listen 20 years ago when we had a at least half decent county team & our possible route to an all ireland final was fantastically easier than it is now because we got into a semi automatically, ONCE & only ONCE did we ever manage to drag ourselves into the final. now please god tell me how any sane minded person actually believed that the introduction of the qualifiers & the reality of playing up to 3 games against good opposition before we could even smell a semi was going to suit us??  this has now made it ten times more difficult for us rightly so fairer for better teams than us ie losing munster finalists who previously were out. what we should perhaps have tried after the humiliation of the '89 final was to go away & examine the structures in all the clubs in the county. emphasis should have been on the same top level of coaching the skills in ALL the clubs & a style of play adaptable & familiar to all the clubs so that like in most other counties you have a steady stream of capable players being sent from the clubs to represent the county. but what actually happened here was that the clubs were left to their own devices & some fared better than others. b'castle who were a real force in club hurling in the 70's & 80's seemed for years to ignore the underage set up & have paid the price ever since.only now are they starting to turn the corner & reap the rewards of a good underage set up implimented about 10 years ago. dunloy as well brought their own great senior team right up through the ranks & swept all before them. sadly now their underage teams are not producing the same level of players. the teams in the city have barring the johnnies & occassionally rossa havent produced anything of real worth. even today c'dall have a very good underage system but i can put my hand on my heart & say that neil,shane & arron are the only 3 players good enough to play inter county hurling. thats whats really frightening. we have been there or thereabouts at senior level now for nearly 30 years & we have only 3 players up to inter county level. loughguile had 6 starters last week & rightlly so as at the minute they are the best club team in the country. but when we strip it back to the bones i would say that although all these players are definitely good enough to be on the antrim county team ,i dont believe they are all good enough for inter county level. in my opinion we need to get into all the clubs & put in place structures where by everyone is being coached to the same highest levels & that most of the clubs can compete at all age groups. you would then naturally have a better hurler being sent to the county. this is not a 2 or 3 year fix. this could take 10 years or more but we have to start at the very earliest age we can. so what of our current squad? well this may seem ruthless but we should play christy ring & if we won it at a canter as some suggest (i dont think for a second we would) then so what,it hasnt bothered anyone that we have won 11 ulster titles in a row. for me the current squads its too late to ever make any impact on the liam mc carthy but that doesnt mean the honest players & management shouldnt get just reward of all ireland success in a lower grade. for now i would forget about running the county team like a club team. let them train once a week & play their league & c'ship games. the other nights of the week they would be of far more use training with their clubs teams where they would be helping to bring on their club mates & hopefully raising the standard of the club hurling & surely the natural progression is that when the club hurling is stronger & far more competitive the county can only benefit. we have tried everything else, why not this? the only obstacle in my view would be a very few people who are benefitting financially through jobs within the county who legitimise their roles by cintinuously championing the idea that we are in fact capable of challenging for an AI

Agree with most of what your saying Auld Stock but would question a couple of things. I never heard any "sane minded person" saying that the qualifiers would suit Antrim, of course they don't.

Secondly whats frightening about any club in any county having only 3 players on the county team? Thats a great acheivement for any club. Apart from Ballyhale over the last few years having 3/4 players on the Kilkenny team its generally made up of 9/10 clubs. Thats what Antrim havent being doing so rather than focusing on any of the big 6 clubs (see senior championship roll of honour exluding defunct clubs) should we not be hoping that more clubs develop to give us a wider base to chose from? And in my mind over the last 10 years 2 clubs have made big strides to that, firstly Cloughmills and moer recently St Endas. We need more clubs like them to come through with players to supplement the traditional clubs that we have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 08, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.

Anyone at the minor match?
We had the better team on paper but just didn't play as a cohesive unit. Sambo has had trouble getting this group to train and I think it showed. But for McGoldricks free taking we would have been out the gate.

Replay in Ballycran this sunday I hear.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 08, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.

Anyone at the minor match?
We had the better team on paper but just didn't play as a cohesive unit. Sambo has had trouble getting this group to train and I think it showed. But for McGoldricks free taking we would have been out the gate.

Replay in Ballycran this sunday I hear.
Word in the ground yesterday is that it would be back in Casement before the football on saturday. Taking it to B'cran doesnt give it a great profile and I can't see the Down lads having an issue with Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 08, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 08, 2012, 03:25:20 PM
Antrim minors draw with Down.

Anyone at the minor match?
We had the better team on paper but just didn't play as a cohesive unit. Sambo has had trouble getting this group to train and I think it showed. But for McGoldricks free taking we would have been out the gate.

Replay in Ballycran this sunday I hear.
Word in the ground yesterday is that it would be back in Casement before the football on saturday. Taking it to B'cran doesnt give it a great profile and I can't see the Down lads having an issue with Casement.

Have you asked any Down lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
I didn't express any certainty just thought a young fella in his fleeting minor career might look forward to an Ulster final replay in front of a few thousand in Casement as opposed to a few hundred in Ballycran. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 09, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
Thankfully posts from Shara Fuggers have been removed. Slanderous comments and not right.

On the games yesterday- Minor game was very even. How the Down FF never got a couple of goals I do not know. Big handful of a player. As stated before, Antrim were lucky that young McGoldrick was on form with the frees. Both teams got goals that were very lucky with both keepers likely to have only seen the ball as it went past the last defender. I think a draw was the right result, can't see Antrim being as poor this week. Hoping it will be before the Galway game.

For the senior game, was dead rubber right after Carsons goal. I thought Shane was fantastic, covered serious ground and has been the only midfielder Antrim have had in the last while who is taking a good luck at where he is playing the ball to. Some of his passing was great. Derry lost the discipline and got frustrated I think. Antrim should have had about 5 more goals, with the Derry keeper having a great game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
I didn't express any certainty just thought a young fella in his fleeting minor career might look forward to an Ulster final replay in front of a few thousand in Casement as opposed to a few hundred in Ballycran. :o

Where would this few thousand be coming from? I presume they'll be straggling in at the very end waiting for the football qualifier?

I'd have thought they'd have wanted a home game once in a while, but its hardly likely with the Ulster council.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 09, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
I didn't express any certainty just thought a young fella in his fleeting minor career might look forward to an Ulster final replay in front of a few thousand in Casement as opposed to a few hundred in Ballycran. :o

Where would this few thousand be coming from? I presume they'll be straggling in at the very end waiting for the football qualifier?

I'd have thought they'd have wanted a home game once in a while, but its hardly likely with the Ulster council.
I'd have thought Ulster Council should give the match the profile it deserves, Pairc Esler maybe, not Ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 09, 2012, 01:33:46 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=173004

Typical of modern gaa!

No competitive game until next February? Well Ollie I have news for you - there is this thing called club hurling!! Good god the inter county season is already too long at the expense of clubs where the majority of Gaels reside for the bread and butter of our association.

Does Ollie baker just want his team to play endless championship games regardless of results?
He is basically saying keep giving us more games even when we get beat because we just want to keep playing! Try winning then Ollie.

Or maybe Ollie doesn't get paid in the off season. Ah now I see!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 09, 2012, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 09, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
Thankfully posts from Shara Fuggers have been removed. Slanderous comments and not right.

On the games yesterday- Minor game was very even. How the Down FF never got a couple of goals I do not know. Big handful of a player. As stated before, Antrim were lucky that young McGoldrick was on form with the frees. Both teams got goals that were very lucky with both keepers likely to have only seen the ball as it went past the last defender. I think a draw was the right result, can't see Antrim being as poor this week. Hoping it will be before the Galway game.

For the senior game, was dead rubber right after Carsons goal. I thought Shane was fantastic, covered serious ground and has been the only midfielder Antrim have had in the last while who is taking a good luck at where he is playing the ball to. Some of his passing was great. Derry lost the discipline and got frustrated I think. Antrim should have had about 5 more goals, with the Derry keeper having a great game
Seen this last night - is this yet another Bog Ash Caman/Ashwood Gael account. He must be in double figures by now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 09, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
Minor match confirmed for Saturday at 1pm at Casment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 09, 2012, 05:44:29 PM
Wonder how people with those multiple fake accounts even remember passwords etc for them all, anyway, Sunday past ends our seniors season and thankfully we finished off avoiding another humiliating defeat, getting back to their clubs is the best thing that could happen at the minute.

Minor replay on Saturday, wasn't at either of yesterdays games but will hopefully get down and support these boys as well the footballers this weekend. Hoping for a good win, who can they meet in the quarter finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on July 09, 2012, 10:02:05 PM
Fairhead. thats really the point i was making. in a perfect world there would be a greater spread of capable players from more clubs. but until the proper structures are put in place to provide better quality players in the club, then the county manager will have to rely heavily on the top senior clubs. at the minute i dont think many would argue that the strongest clubs at the minute are the shammrocks & c'dall. im my opinion this shows how far away we are that even in this bad situation, c'dall can only provide 3 men who could hold their own at intercounty level. so i totally agree with what you are saying that is a great achievement to have 3 county men, but not neccesarily when you are one of the "top 2". i would look forward to the day when as many clubs as possible are represented. but ONLY if the players are up to the standard. dont just send them just to fill the numbers. sadly like it or not that is what we are doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 10, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Well Sie are u all set for the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 10, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
Who do shamrocks play first?. Can you foresee any upsets saffron?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 10, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 10, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
Who do shamrocks play first?. Can you foresee any upsets saffron?

They play Rossa and winners play the Glenariffe juggernaut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 10, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
We beat Ballycran tonight 1-25 to 1-07, ticking along nicely. Up against Dunloy on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 10, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
can't see them being stopped in Antrim or Ulster this year at all, back to back All Irelands will be a step too far though i'd say. Doubt Ballycran traveled at full strength tonight either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 10, 2012, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 10, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Well Sie are u all set for the championship
almost.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 10, 2012, 10:51:44 PM
Can't see either rossa or glenariff troubling them. Will that take them into semi's against?  We were up against it before but now having no manager again and without karl it shouldn't cause too many problems for cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 11, 2012, 01:06:21 AM
Glad to get the bread and butter back this weekend!

Dunloy v loughiel - shamrocks handy
Portaferry v cushendall - dall but not by much
StJohns v bcastle - pick of the weekend maybe a draw

Sarsfields v Rossa - Rossa
Lamh dearg v oisins - Glenarrife handy
Galls v Carey - galls
Gort v Randalstown - home advantage to count

I can't help but think holidays can result in some surprises this time of year particularly outside the top division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 11, 2012, 08:26:42 AM
Agree about the holiday point, definitely a huge factor that affects promotion and relegation battles throughout all of the leagues. Also agree that this is a factor that mostly effects divisions 2 and below, most of the div 1 teams carry bigger panels and the top sides in it use the league for experimenting anyway.

It is also this time of the year when the ground is really firm and the hurling that small bit faster that most injuries are picked up, this is alongside the holiday issue and again effects the lower teams due to smaller numbers.

Hate when a game is decided over these two issues, ideally we would like to see all matches played with the two strongest 15's, however that is the beauty of out sport, and the importance of a panel.

Predictions
Dunloy v loughiel - Loughgiel
Portaferry v cushendall - cushendall
StJohns v bcastle - ballycastle
Sarsfields v Rossa - sars
Lamh dearg v oisins - Glenarrife
Galls v Carey - st galls
Gort v Randalstown - gort
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 11, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 10, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 10, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
Who do shamrocks play first?. Can you foresee any upsets saffron?

They play Rossa and winners play the Glenariffe juggernaut.
2012 hurling championship draw;

1. St Galls V Cushendall
2. Dunloy V Ballycastle

3. St Johns V Lamh Dearg
4. Rossa/Loughgiel V Glenariffe

Semis:
1 V 2
3 V 4

League Predictions:

Dunloy v Shamrocks - Us by 3 or 4. History dictates that these games are always tight, barring a few exceptions.

Portaferry v Cushendall - Ruari Ogs by 7/8

St. Johns v Ballycastle. Has the makings of a great game. I'll plump for the johnnies by a couple after their recent close encounters with the Dall and Dunloy would imply they're improving.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 11, 2012, 03:11:47 PM
Dall vs Shamrocks for me which should be a great final which is hard to call. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 11, 2012, 04:26:22 PM
Don't see anyone getting closer to loughiel than my Rossa friends did last year!
Shamrocks to retain the championship - with some to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 11, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
Really have to fancy the shams for title, dall will be dying to beat them but just think they'll come up short.
Only interest in championship is to see how far town get.
Laim mc carthy now more interesting

After wwekend. Tipp cats semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
At least we now know where our flags and bunting went. Ballymena supporters took them.  :D

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 12, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
Unreal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eachaidh on July 12, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
Hi everyone,

Sorry to hijack the thread but please bear with me!

I have been made aware of a study that the University of Ulster are currently carrying out into defibrillators in the GAA. It's an all-Ireland study that is based on line.

As this is such an important and emotive subject for many of us Gaels I thought that I should try to get the word out so that as many of us as possible participate in order to make the results more reliable. The link is below and I would encourage everyone to take the 5 minutes and complete the form. The idea is to get a picture of where we are at as an organisation with the provision of this life saving equipment.

I should state that this is not my study and I am not involved in it other than that I know the people carrying it out. But on their behalf I would like to thank everyone who does fill it out in advance. Your help will be greatly appreciated and hopefully will help the GAA and all of our members. Getting this information may eventually even help to save lives.

Go raibh maith agat!

Link Below:

https://edu.surveygizmo.com/s3/971431/CRP-Defibrillators-Survey (https://edu.surveygizmo.com/s3/971431/CRP-Defibrillators-Survey)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Minors beaten by 4 points.   :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 14, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Minors beaten by 4 points.   :-\

I thought we had a good squad this year, whole county scene depressing across the board. where you at the match SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 14, 2012, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
Well beat. Totally expected.

Can't blame the kids.
Squad simply not good enough or a pop at the management?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
There was an interesting game played after the minor hurling match today.

Chances are you lot would have enjoyed the outcome had you been aware said game was taking place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT I AM VERY HAPPY.

ME TOO. MAGNICIFENT STORM OVER LAKE ISEO ANOCHT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2012, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 14, 2012, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT I AM VERY HAPPY.

ME TOO. MAGNICIFENT STORM OVER LAKE ISEO ANOCHT.
Franciacorta is a nice spot. So it is. #nothingbeatsbeinghere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2012, 12:04:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 15, 2012, 12:01:23 AM
UP LAKE ISEO!

MORE DRINK!

UP CAVEHILL!

WOOHOO!
Upahoods. IBA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 15, 2012, 12:07:29 AM
THEY'RE DANCING ON THE STREETS OF ISEO ANOCHT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Can anyone update the dunloy/loughgiel match please? I can't make it. Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 15, 2012, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Can anyone update the dunloy/loughgiel match please? I can't make it. Thanks.

Dunloy 2 05 Loughgiel 1 04 HT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 15, 2012, 03:40:30 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 15, 2012, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Can anyone update the dunloy/loughgiel match please? I can't make it. Thanks.

Dunloy 2 05 Loughgiel 1 04 HT

Dunloy 2 08 Loughiel 1 09 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 04:06:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Can anyone update the dunloy/loughgiel match please? I can't make it. Thanks.

Dunloy by two, scrappy enough match with plenty of hard tackles. good players for Dunloy- shorty was outstanding man of the match,Shane Dooey all the defence. only Johnny campbell and Barney MC Auley can hold there heads up for loughgeil. In truth Dunloy didn't play that well and LG where worse. maybe scrappy is the wrong word both forward lines where being well shackled by being closed down and high work rates. we where missing paddy Richmond and kevy molloy so happy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   
If that story is true then it is the act of a tr**p.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   

you have your own gutless scu**bags as well. johnny campbell finished the match now he is half dead. when your dirty piece of sh*t  pulled on shorty in the last league match he had to come straight off. at least you wont find any Dunloy posters on here defending that sort of behavior, unlike yourself when that tr**p done shorty in LG. There was loads of of the ball stuff today but if skinny done that its not on. typical LG poster coming on here with your double standards. as for man in black and green, well done on bringing out the clowns with a highlighting  one incident when one team was as bad as the other

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 06:15:42 PM
Now lads, from what I hear they deserved their victory. Congrats to dunloy. This has to make them second favourites  for the championship after cushendall now. Yeah?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
SIE,  knowone said they didn't deserve there LEAGUE win mate,    All am saying is, i wouldn't of expected much more of him,  that's all.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   

you have your own gutless scu**bags as well. johnny campbell finished the match now he is half dead. when your dirty piece of sh*t  pulled on shorty in the last league match he had to come straight off. at least you wont find any Dunloy posters on here defending that sort of behavior, unlike yourself when that tr**p done shorty in LG. There was loads of of the ball stuff today but if skinny done that its not on. typical LG poster coming on here with your double standards. as for man in black and green, well done on bringing out the clowns with a highlighting  one incident when one team was as bad as the other
pulling across someone is just a small bit different to driving the hurl through the helmet you arsehole!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
SIE,  knowone said they didn't deserve there LEAGUE win mate,    All am saying is, i wouldn't of expected much more of him,  that's all.
we all have opinions sg. we all know what they are. nothing matters until September. ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 15, 2012, 07:06:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   

What you hoping to accomplish with such a post MIBAG?

Were you at the match?

From where I could see was a tangle between two players and one ended up worse off, if you want to play it that way then you have to be a man and take what you were trying to give out.

Good clean game nearly ruined by GD.

SG and SIE there are no tramps or scumbags on either team so time to wise up if your were beat you were beat man up. There are slaps given and taken every weekend end of.

MIBAG if you are a ref then what are you doing slating one of your own? Unless you have a hidden agenda, everyone as far as i could see finished the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 07:28:37 PM
Excuse me Nag1, where have I ever described a player of any team as any of those terms you accuse me of?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 15, 2012, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Well deserved victory for Dunloy, as previously stated some fierce tackling from both sides, Dunloy where excellent at closing down the play, tremendous workrate and good value for money, in saying that no winker and mc fadden so come championship it will no doubt be a different story for shams Id say, one incident that C C (15) for Dunloy pulled a real dirty stroke on JC (5), the lad I hear is away to hospital suspected broken Jaw, shoving the butt of the stick through a lads face-guard happened behind the referee during a 20metre free, and from a county referee is just not on, and Id say that one is not finished yet? Well done Dunloy, great lift and good to see.
What else would you expect from a wee gutless sc**bag???   

you have your own gutless scu**bags as well. johnny campbell finished the match now he is half dead. when your dirty piece of sh*t  pulled on shorty in the last league match he had to come straight off. at least you wont find any Dunloy posters on here defending that sort of behavior, unlike yourself when that tr**p done shorty in LG. There was loads of of the ball stuff today but if skinny done that its not on. typical LG poster coming on here with your double standards. as for man in black and green, well done on bringing out the clowns with a highlighting  one incident when one team was as bad as the other
pulling across someone is just a small bit different to driving the hurl through the helmet you arsehole!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evfzp1cUtpA

where you at the match did the said offence(3 minutes in) look anything like this as you said anyone that does this a is a complete sc**bag

whos  the arsehole now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 15, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
Good tight physical game, CC didn't give anymore than he received
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 08:24:53 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 15, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 07:28:37 PM
Excuse me Nag1, where have I ever described a player of any team as any of those terms you accuse me of?

Sie maybe didn't call it no one on here should be calling anyone playing scumbags or tramps!

Mibag you have yet clarify if you were at the match?

Anyone playing is big enough to look after themselves, what is the issue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 15, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
NAG1 your full of it, read the 1st line again of my last post, Christ I thought school was over for the summer :P

Apologies for missing first line, if you had any idea about hurling then you wouldn't be bitching about one incident in a clean game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 10:05:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 15, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 07:28:37 PM
Excuse me Nag1, where have I ever described a player of any team as any of those terms you accuse me of?

Sie maybe didn't call it no one on here should be calling anyone playing scumbags or tramps!

Mibag you have yet clarify if you were at the match?

Anyone playing is big enough to look after themselves, what is the issue?
as I haven't done. So again, why bring me into it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on July 15, 2012, 10:08:50 PM
St Johns beat ballycastle by one today, 1-19 to 2-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 15, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 15, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
NAG1 your full of it, read the 1st line again of my last post, Christ I thought school was over for the summer :P

Apologies for missing first line, if you had any idea about hurling then you wouldn't be bitching about one incident in a clean game!

leave him be he obviously has an axe to grind with skinny and he gave him some amo to slate him today. there has been shenanigans going on at club level like his before but it didn't get his gander up. If most people where viewing that match as a neutral ref I'm sure they would have a more balanced opinion as to why these things escalate, action-reaction etc.  Its pretty obvious where his loyalty's lie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 10:40:15 PM
I hear Graffin is injured and out for at least a  month.  Any truth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 15, 2012, 11:14:04 PM
Well with the county scene finished for the year in hurling with just the u21's left to play it was a welcoming weekend of club action. In Div 1 we had two stand out victories for St Johns over Ballycastle and of course the already much talked about Dunloy over rivals Loughgiel. Both were much needed victories and come at crucial stages of the season for both teams. Cushendall enjoyed a close fought win against Portaferry however this win has come at a cost with the injury sustained by Aaron Graffin.

In Div 2 it was a good weekend for most of the Belfast clubs. Gort na Mona kept up their recent run of good form with an excellent victory over relegation rivals Tir na Nog. Rossa enjoyed a victory over next door neighbours Sarsfields to edge that bit further ahead of them in the league table, and to maintain their unbeaten streak as they chase Glenariffe. St Galls also had a much needed victory over Carey which I am sure they will be delighted with as they probably had a weakened side out. Glenariffe kept up their consistent and effective form in this division with another win over Lamh Dhearg.

Great to have games on across all divisions, club hurling at this time of the year is what keeps us going especially after the defeats suffered by the county side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 15, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 15, 2012, 10:40:15 PM
I hear Graffin is injured and out for at least a  month.  Any truth?

that's a big loss for the Dall, jays us he was flying in casement last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 06:50:16 AM
Quote from: maxpower on July 15, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
Good tight physical game, CC didn't give anymore than he received
can you tell me why antrim and tipp has anything to do with this??   is this the last time all club teams looked at each other and gave a true account of themselves??   YES???   cause its f**k all to do with skinny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on July 16, 2012, 07:55:59 AM
MIBAG catch a grip FFS, you have now succeeded in getting everyone at one another, this may have been your agenda as said previously, let sleeping dogs lie, these things do go on every weekend and if you really are a referee or x referee then leave it on the pitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 16, 2012, 08:44:12 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on July 15, 2012, 10:08:50 PM
St Johns beat ballycastle by one today, 1-19 to 2-15

Very bad result for us in particular after getting beat yesterday in Ballycran by three points., should have been double that in all fairness to Ballycran who believe they're still in the mire as well.

We've to go to Corrigan and win in a few weeks time and in all honesty we'll need to get our act together before then, but it doesn't look like it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 16, 2012, 10:15:10 AM
How come LG were short a couple yesterday then, injuries?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 16, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
Thanks for all the updates lads as neutral as ever!

Great win for st johns gives them real opportunity to stay up and a big blow for the town.

I went to see Rossa sarsfields and was not dissapointed - really entertaining.
Rossa got a goal in first half which kept them in touch against wind so seemed to be foregone conclusion to win in 2nd half. However the paddies kept nicking scores young Kevin mckiernan was fantastic. Rossa by 4 was fair result tho they were better side. Hamill was back playing and in fairness probably the difference setting up all 3 Rossa goals. They still don't look like they have enough to beat the oisins however.

Good also to see the gorts in form I was worried they might go down but thankfully they have steadied the ship.

Galls also picking up points - still frustrate me MR2 because I can't help but wonder what would happen with a full team out committed to hurling but then I suppose that's the nature if the beast for all teams.

Loughiel and dunloy showing the old rivalry hasn't gone away ya know!
I still see dall as only real opposition but shamrocks won't be beaten when it matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 16, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
A fe ;)w unsavory moments from both teams yesterday in a very physical game. We closed down better than we did in the feis but still too many unforced errors. Deserved the victory but need to improve our touch and composure before we could be considered potential championship material. Also...was missing yesterday but don't believe big paddy has the game to threaten a good full back any more anyway........a clinker on his day but hasn't happened in a while for him. Who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 16, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
A fe ;)w unsavory moments from both teams yesterday in a very physical game. We closed down better than we did in the feis but still too many unforced errors. Deserved the victory but need to improve our touch and composure before we could be considered potential championship material. Also...was missing yesterday but don't believe big paddy has the game to threaten a good full back any more anyway........a clinker on his day but hasn't happened in a while for him. Who knows

+1 skull we showed great industry on closing down players in possesion but our forwards have  to improve first touch on 50 50 ball. I would like to see them try create more space for runs instead of standing with there men but that requires faster ball in to. spot on with big paddy he never was big on the hunger stakes but would give you 5 minutes with some return, but that seems to have gone now. LG still favourates with the Dall second. where we are depends on how we can fix things for championship, still wouldn't be good enough for confident victory over ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 16, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 16, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
A fe ;)w unsavory moments from both teams yesterday in a very physical game. We closed down better than we did in the feis but still too many unforced errors. Deserved the victory but need to improve our touch and composure before we could be considered potential championship material. Also...was missing yesterday but don't believe big paddy has the game to threaten a good full back any more anyway........a clinker on his day but hasn't happened in a while for him. Who knows
Paddy can't be that old - 32ish? He not fancy it anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 16, 2012, 01:05:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 16, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 16, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
A fe ;)w unsavory moments from both teams yesterday in a very physical game. We closed down better than we did in the feis but still too many unforced errors. Deserved the victory but need to improve our touch and composure before we could be considered potential championship material. Also...was missing yesterday but don't believe big paddy has the game to threaten a good full back any more anyway........a clinker on his day but hasn't happened in a while for him. Who knows
Paddy can't be that old - 32ish? He not fancy it anymore?


I'd have him around the 35 mark myself.

He did very little against us last year down in our place, but got the goal halfway through the second half to create a lead we were never going to close..
Age aside he never really reminded me of a natural athlete and like some of us not too keen on what it takes to get fit enough to play at senior level.
The hoor always knew where the net was though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 01:56:06 PM
Definitely not 35 - I think he's 32. He seems to have slowed down a bit *reasonably* young.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 16, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
His older brother Liam wouldnt even be the length of 35 yet lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 16, 2012, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 16, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
His older brother Liam wouldnt even be the length of 35 yet lads.

They've been on the go a good few years OK, but I'd have another two or three years on both.

Liam seems to be able to handle the new spuds better.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Liam was minor I think in 95. If he's not 35 he'll be 35 very soon.

He was, I think, on that good minor team with McFall and Pinky that should have beat Kilkenny in the minors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Liam was minor I think in 95. If he's not 35 he'll be 35 very soon.

He was, I think, on that good minor team with McFall and Pinky that should have beat Kilkenny in the minors

smell a little bullshit here, when should the saffs minors beat kilkenny.  Wish it was the case, just can't remember it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 16, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
It was 1995 alright, was at the game before Down v Offaly and Clare v Galway. Antrim could well have won that game although KK were absolutely pumped in the final by Cork. Sean Og, Donal Og, Ben O'Connor etc played on that team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Liam was minor I think in 95. If he's not 35 he'll be 35 very soon.

He was, I think, on that good minor team with McFall and Pinky that should have beat Kilkenny in the minors

smell a little bullshit here, when should the saffs minors beat kilkenny.  Wish it was the case, just can't remember it

It happened and it was close.. Brian mc fall was outstanding that day and pinky was as good a minor as Antrim have had.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 16, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Liam was minor I think in 95. If he's not 35 he'll be 35 very soon.

He was, I think, on that good minor team with McFall and Pinky that should have beat Kilkenny in the minors

smell a little bullshit here, when should the saffs minors beat kilkenny.  Wish it was the case, just can't remember it

It happened and it was close.. Brian mc fall was outstanding that day and pinky was as good a minor as Antrim have had.

It was before Clare v Galway AISF on a baking hot day in 1995, can't remember much about it though.

Image 5 is a photo of that years team before the Ulster Final

http://www.loughgielshamrocksgac.com/gallery/images/?id=33
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 10:32:59 PM
Johnny Flynn was great in those days. Never quite made it.

Joey Quinn? From loughgiel there too and "ad".

Mind McFall hitting a rasper but not much more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

Along with Dick and magee, that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

Along with Dick and magee, that day
magee was amazing to in fairness,  thought shan had serious game to,  but big pat was outstanding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
what does it say about me??  are you trying to say there isnt hatred?  or was it the 'last' bit that has your knickers in a twist??  chill man, arnt we aloud friendly digs at one another?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
what does it say about me??  are you trying to say there isn't hatred?  or was it the 'last' bit that has your knickers in a twist??  chill man, arnt we aloud friendly digs at one another?

fair enough thought you where being serious, just cut out the sc**mbag stuff and be a bit more gracious like SIE(good poster with some manners) and we will call it quits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
what does it say about me??  are you trying to say there isn't hatred?  or was it the 'last' bit that has your knickers in a twist??  chill man, arnt we aloud friendly digs at one another?

fair enough thought you where being serious, just cut out the sc**mbag stuff and be a bit more gracious like SIE(good poster with some manners) and we will call it quits
gracious isn't the right word,  am very gracious in winning and defeat my friend, is that what young cunning was at? trying to put manners in JC,  Lol less would of done.  the thing that got me so upset to call him what i did, was that he is getting called the best ref about at the moment,maybe rightly so, then to do that :o   temper was up!!!  sorry :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 17, 2012, 08:36:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 16, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 16, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Liam was minor I think in 95. If he's not 35 he'll be 35 very soon.

He was, I think, on that good minor team with McFall and Pinky that should have beat Kilkenny in the minors

smell a little bullshit here, when should the saffs minors beat kilkenny.  Wish it was the case, just can't remember it

It happened and it was close.. Brian mc fall was outstanding that day and pinky was as good a minor as Antrim have had.

It was before Clare v Galway AISF on a baking hot day in 1995, can't remember much about it though.

Image 5 is a photo of that years team before the Ulster Final

http://www.loughgielshamrocksgac.com/gallery/images/?id=33

Is that a very young PJ O'Mullan in picture 33?

'The young padawan meets his mentor'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 17, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
what does it say about me??  are you trying to say there isn't hatred?  or was it the 'last' bit that has your knickers in a twist??  chill man, arnt we aloud friendly digs at one another?

fair enough thought you where being serious, just cut out the sc**mbag stuff and be a bit more gracious like SIE(good poster with some manners) and we will call it quits
gracious isn't the right word,  am very gracious in winning and defeat my friend, is that what young cunning was at? trying to put manners in JC,  Lol less would of done.  the thing that got me so upset to call him what i did, was that he is getting called the best ref about at the moment,maybe rightly so, then to do that :o   temper was up!!!  sorry :(

Well if the temper was up then and your apologising for your actions would it not be appropriate to take your posts down in relation to your comments? We are here to debate the games and hurling in general not to be personally insulting anyone. You can point out if you think something was wrong without getting into anything personal.

Also LG strike ratio wouldnt be that majorly hot over the past 20 odd years in the Antrim championship for you to be getting on your high horse to talk down to anyone one, all friendly banter of course  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 17, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
St Galls would be more than happy with a win last sunday considering they had 8 regular first team players missing and without a manager. very disappointed wih carey though, bar 3 or 4 very good players (11 and 7 were very impressive) the rest very average.
The games between Rossa and Glenariff will decide where the league title goes and think rossa could give Glenariff a good run for their money but that will all depend on their forwards as against us they relied on frees for the majority of their scores. Hamill coming back is a big bonus for them too.

For St Galls its unfortunately the same old story....frustrating to say the least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 17, 2012, 02:38:54 PM
On the Glenariffe - Rossa games coming up, been hearing Rossa have been missing a good few players recently but still digging out results, however, to get 2 wins in these games which they need they can't afford to be going in to them under strength do u agree HS? Injuries and holidays will affect city clubs a lot more than it does to the country teams. Though Rossa management seem to have got their players to wake up and start performing. Hopefully this is the same with St Johns after their win at the weekend, would be great to have 2 Belfast teams back in Div 1 next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 17, 2012, 03:17:42 PM
Do country players not get injured and go on holiday ?

Is young Shannon away to the states HS ? A great prospect.

I still believe both teams are very even...I dont believe Glenariff have anything speacial...all good players with good stick work and their biggest attribute for me is that they fight for every ball and never stop until the final whistle with great fitness levels. Any team with that will always be hard to beat but I believe Rossa have all those qualities too and have improved as the season has gone on. Proved against us that they never give up either so for me there will only be a puck of the ball between them and goals could be crucial in deciding what way it goes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on July 17, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Is Johnny McIntosh still playing with Glenariffe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 323232 on July 17, 2012, 04:49:11 PM
Hi folks here is a we 2 mins video we would like you to see.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nOo-CDoRI&feature=share
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2012, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on July 17, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Is Johnny McIntosh still playing with Glenariffe?

Yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 17, 2012, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 17, 2012, 03:17:42 PM
Do country players not get injured and go on holiday ?

Yes, but I think that these factors affect city teams worse. In the country playing on the senior hurling team means slightly more, therefore injuries will affect them less as they will have more dedicated replacements and those that are injured will be doing all it takes to get back. On the holiday front, I feel there is more distractions available to players in the city and they may be more inclined to leave the hurling in favour of the drink and sun.

Obviously this is not the rule and there are plenty of exceptions to contradict my views, but I feel in some clubs these are present.
Quote from: manballandall on July 17, 2012, 03:17:42 PM

Is young Shannon away to the states HS ? A great prospect.

Yes I also heard they missed a few other players to the states for the summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 17, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 17, 2012, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:24:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 11:11:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 16, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 16, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
well i can put hatred aside and say Liam and paddy Richmond was as good as you would of got in the country in 02/03 season.  think paddy on his day would prob still take any full back in county to cleaners.  won dunloy there last  championship himself

that post says more about you than it does about the Richmond's or Dunloy
what does it say about me??  are you trying to say there isn't hatred?  or was it the 'last' bit that has your knickers in a twist??  chill man, arnt we aloud friendly digs at one another?

fair enough thought you where being serious, just cut out the sc**mbag stuff and be a bit more gracious like SIE(good poster with some manners) and we will call it quits
gracious isn't the right word,  am very gracious in winning and defeat my friend, is that what young cunning was at? trying to put manners in JC,  Lol less would of done.  the thing that got me so upset to call him what i did, was that he is getting called the best ref about at the moment,maybe rightly so, then to do that :o   temper was up!!!  sorry :(

Well if the temper was up then and your apologising for your actions would it not be appropriate to take your posts down in relation to your comments? We are here to debate the games and hurling in general not to be personally insulting anyone. You can point out if you think something was wrong without getting into anything personal.

Also LG strike ratio wouldn't be that majorly hot over the past 20 odd years in the Antrim championship for you to be getting on your high horse to talk down to anyone one, all friendly banter of course  ;)
Loughgiel was never on strike lad,  that's them other lads that wear red your thinking of.  ;D  sure yourselves have only really been winning anything as 20 odd years,  am happy enough with our roll of honour. 

All Ireland Club


(2)




1983, 2012

 




Sen Ulster Club


(6)




1970, 1971, 1982, 1989, 2010, 2011

 




A.C.S.H.C


(17)




1920, 1924, 1925, 1929, 1938, 1943, 1956, 1963, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1982, 1989, 2010, 2011
  All friendly banter surely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 17, 2012, 10:05:33 PM
I never said you were on strike, Thanks for the stroll down memory lane SG  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 18, 2012, 03:46:05 PM
I was at Rossa sarsfields and Rossa were missing quite a few - bell Shannon armstrong notably. I would say that's why Hamill back Altho he was a big boost for them.
Hardstation any idea when the absentees return or if at all? Maybe a chance of they do in Belfast but difficult to beat oisins in the glens minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 18, 2012, 04:17:55 PM
reckon div 2 is going to get a whole lot more interesting after this weekend, with the results,

anyone for newry tonite to support the u21s, something tells me they could do with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 18, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
Didn't make it to Newry.

Anyone? Team? Scorers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2012, 06:07:43 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 18, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
Didn't make it to Newry.

Anyone? Team? Scorers?
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3500

Antrim beat Armagh to book Ulster final place:


Antrim booked their place in the final of the Ulster Under 21 Hurling Championship when they beat Armagh in Wednesday evening's semi-final at Pairc Esler, Newry.
In a repeat of last year's final the Saffron's got off to a great start with a point from eighty metres from centre-half back Matthew Donnelly and when team captain Conor McCann fired in a goal in the fourth minute they were in a strong position.
However what appeared to be plain sailing proved anything but as Armagh began to find their feet and with full-forward Conor Corvan  picking off the points from frees they kept in touch and trailed by just four at the break (1-7 to 0-6).
That margin could well have been closer had it not been for a fine save from Antrim goalkeeper James O'Mullan in the twenty-sixth minute, and the Rasharkin man was called upon again early in the second-half to deny the Orchard county's corner-forward Danny Magee after Corvan had worked an opening.
That was to be Antrim's last real threat and with McCann, Mickey Devlin, James Black and Stephen McAfee all finding the target up front they slowly but surely stretched their advantage and eventually ran out winners by 1-17 to 0-11.
ANTRIM – James O'Mullan, Christopher Murray, Ronan Gillan, Fergus Donnelly, James McShane, Matthew Donnelly, James McCouaig, Aiden McKeown, Stephen McAfee, Mickey Devlin, Kevin McKernan, James Black, Stephen Smith, Conor McCann, Nigel Elliott.
SUBS – Conor Laverty for Elliott; Eoin McAlonan for McKernan; Paddy McNaughton for Aiden McKeown; Jude Savage for Smith.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 19, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
What are your predictions for Div 2 this weekend Saffron ?...Expecting a few upsets ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 19, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 19, 2012, 06:07:43 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 18, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
Didn't make it to Newry.

Anyone? Team? Scorers?
http://www.antrimgaa.net/news/details/?id=3500

Antrim beat Armagh to book Ulster final place:


Antrim booked their place in the final of the Ulster Under 21 Hurling Championship when they beat Armagh in Wednesday evening's semi-final at Pairc Esler, Newry.
In a repeat of last year's final the Saffron's got off to a great start with a point from eighty metres from centre-half back Matthew Donnelly and when team captain Conor McCann fired in a goal in the fourth minute they were in a strong position.
However what appeared to be plain sailing proved anything but as Armagh began to find their feet and with full-forward Conor Corvan  picking off the points from frees they kept in touch and trailed by just four at the break (1-7 to 0-6).
That margin could well have been closer had it not been for a fine save from Antrim goalkeeper James O'Mullan in the twenty-sixth minute, and the Rasharkin man was called upon again early in the second-half to deny the Orchard county's corner-forward Danny Magee after Corvan had worked an opening.
That was to be Antrim's last real threat and with McCann, Mickey Devlin, James Black and Stephen McAfee all finding the target up front they slowly but surely stretched their advantage and eventually ran out winners by 1-17 to 0-11.
ANTRIM – James O'Mullan, Christopher Murray, Ronan Gillan, Fergus Donnelly, James McShane, Matthew Donnelly, James McCouaig, Aiden McKeown, Stephen McAfee, Mickey Devlin, Kevin McKernan, James Black, Stephen Smith, Conor McCann, Nigel Elliott.
SUBS – Conor Laverty for Elliott; Eoin McAlonan for McKernan; Paddy McNaughton for Aiden McKeown; Jude Savage for Smith.

Cheers - saw that on there. At least they pulled away.

Derry in final then. Hope they go for it and if they get through that then get the head down...though not a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 19, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
After 39 do-or-die matches in this years SALTILL HOTEL Senior Hurling Championship, our 21 sides have now been whittled down to the last 8, with an intriging knockout series of matches to look forward to.

Through to the quarter-finals are:

Group A: Gort and Padraig Pearses
Group B: Portumna and Castlegar.
Group C: Turloughmore and Mullagh.
Group D: St. Thomas and Loughrea

And the Antrim championship gets underway last week in August and finished by end of September with the finalist having in played a total of approx 3 games.  Maybe if we get a few draws we could be up around the 20 mark :P :P

Time to wake up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2012, 05:17:28 PM
We ran with a system like this before. The best teams always came top their group and went into semi finals. You had to top group to go through. Other counties have this also and its also linked to league performance. But seeing that we have a small division one and three teams are from Down, it wouldn't work here (well, Galway's system).

Dublin run off a load of group games early in year. Final games after county are out of championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 19, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
point take with no of teams, but i would try the groups system or home and away like before to get the the no of games up

dual clubs mightn't like it, but we need some more games.

even include the down teams or Derry.

whats the story with Gallagher MR2, no doubt he consulted with you first

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 19, 2012, 07:06:48 PM
Aidso is his own man and I'm sure his reasons for stepping down weren't taken lightly. His commitment to club games this year has been brilliant considering his efforts with Antrim. He also wanted to hurl for county also this year. Stand up guy, good player to have about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 08:27:48 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 19, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
point take with no of teams, but i would try the groups system or home and away like before to get the the no of games up

dual clubs mightn't like it, but we need some more games.

even include the down teams or Derry.

whats the story with Gallagher MR2, no doubt he consulted with you first

First off you cant have teams from outside the county competing in the Antrim Championship.

The group system was tried before and lead to at least 1 maybe 2 of the games within the group being meaningless due to the lack of competitiveness, dont see that having changed overly much in the past 5-6 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2012, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 08:27:48 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 19, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
point take with no of teams, but i would try the groups system or home and away like before to get the the no of games up

dual clubs mightn't like it, but we need some more games.

even include the down teams or Derry.

whats the story with Gallagher MR2, no doubt he consulted with you first

First off you cant have teams from outside the county competing in the Antrim Championship.

The group system was tried before and lead to at least 1 maybe 2 of the games within the group being meaningless due to the lack of competitiveness, dont see that having changed overly much in the past 5-6 years.

Exactaly NAG1. So a possible solution would be this. The top four teams play in a group and the lesser teams play in a group, home and away games, first half played early in season. Whoever tops the top teer group goes straight into the final. The rest play in a qualifier stage against the lesser group winners.

So If Ballycastle, Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall played in a group  and say Loughgiel win that group they are in the final.

Top Teer.
1.Loughgiel
2.Cushendall
3.Dunloy
4.Ballycastle

Second Teer.   
1.Rossa
2.Glenarriffe
3.Naomh Gall
4.St Johns

Third Teer.
1.Lamhs
2.Gortnamona
3.Sarsfields
4.Carey

Lamhs play Ballycastle in playoff , winners play Cushendall
So in the Quarters we have:


      Rossa V Dunloy      Ballycastle V Cushendall     

And the semis could be

Cushendall V Rossa

Winners play Loughgiel in final.

Jeez that give me a sore head working that out!!!!!

Probably not great but the more meaningful games the better.

Was there not a year that the div one league ran something similar and Loughgiel nearly got relegated and the format was changed the following year? Think it was Dall Dunloy final that year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 20, 2012, 10:38:44 AM
Why do Ballycastle get into the top tier. Sure St Johns beat them the other day!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2012, 10:42:26 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 20, 2012, 10:38:44 AM
Why do Ballycastle get into the top tier. Sure St Johns beat them the other day!  ;)

And we beat Dunloy last year FFS and canny get to the quartes this year!!

Only flaw would be that the likes of Carey, Gorts and Sarsfields may not want to be in Senior championship when the chance to do well at Intermediate is a bigger incentive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
I like the thought process MR2 but again I think even the first group stage at the top level would have alot of the teams playing cards close to their chest and maybe not wanting to give too much away.

Think we need a drive to get a 12 team top division, with at least 9 of the Antrim teams being competitive, so what ever it takes to get the likes of St Johns Rossa, Glenariffe et al up to the next rung should be the priority IMO.

The league could then be used to seed the draw, making each match as far as is possible having some meaning. St Johns vs Ballycastle last game of the league to avoid playing LG in the first round? Just a though but it might be a way of increasing the competitiveness of some of the League games while providing decent preparation for the Championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2012, 11:31:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
I like the thought process MR2 but again I think even the first group stage at the top level would have alot of the teams playing cards close to their chest and maybe not wanting to give too much away.

Think we need a drive to get a 12 team top division, with at least 9 of the Antrim teams being competitive, so what ever it takes to get the likes of St Johns Rossa, Glenariffe et al up to the next rung should be the priority IMO.

The league could then be used to seed the draw, making each match as far as is possible having some meaning. St Johns vs Ballycastle last game of the league to avoid playing LG in the first round? Just a though but it might be a way of increasing the competitiveness of some of the League games while providing decent preparation for the Championship.

County can't be blamed here and they can only run a Championship with the permission of the clubs, so the clubs need to talk, clubs need to settle on ideas of how they see it best to develop antrim club hurling and not worry about their own interest first off.

A bedding in of two years would be required to see if their are any flaws that could be fixed to improve it.

Effectively the current club championship could be run off in 4 weeks.

If we push for a bigger league then it could run like this, all the teams (antrim teams) play each other once the league, then it is divided into two groups depending on how you faired. The top four (of each group) at the end of the league go into the Quarter finals (seeded some way) so top team plays bottom team of the second group and so on and so on. Meaningful games to the end. the rut of the litters play of in a relegation playoff ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
I have always believed the Down teams benefit to the detriment of some antrim teams by playing in our first division....We should encourage more antrim teams to play in Division one by increasing the league to accomadate the likes of Rossa, glenariff and st galls. Could only be good for antrim hurling to do this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:03:26 PM
I have always believed the Down teams benefit to the detriment of some antrim teams by playing in our first division....We should encourage more antrim teams to play in Division one by increasing the league to accomadate the likes of Rossa, glenariff and st galls. Could only be good for antrim hurling to do this

How do you work this out when the three down teams are fit to beat the 3 teams you have mentioned on a regular basis?
Replacing these three teams for teams of a weaker standard is not the way to improve the overall standard of the league!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
I didnt mention replacing them...increasing the league is what i said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
I didnt mention replacing them...increasing the league is what i said.

How is it detrimental then? When some of the Div2 Antrim teams cant get to their level then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 20, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 20, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
I didnt mention replacing them...increasing the league is what i said.

How is it detrimental then? When some of the Div2 Antrim teams cant get to their level then?

Ok you two!! Yes NAG1 you're right is some respects about the Down teams in Div 1. They bring competitive games to the league, though in the last few years they have been on the wane, Johnneycool will confirm this, as will the league standings over the past few seasons.

I don't believe that Rossa ourselves and Glenariffe would get hammered every week in the div one league, yes it would be a toss up between these teams as to who be relegated but at least these teams would be playing at a higher level and in 2/3 seasons would be more competitive and competing better and maybe win a game or two in the championship.

Having more Antrim teams playing at a higher level will help the County team in the end, the flip side to this could be that the standard may drop within the league due to the initially poorer teams but it will take a while for these teams to improve their training and standard of play in Div 1. To stop the standard dropping in the league would be to make the league part of Championship so that the games will always be played at a higher tempo as this will determine the standings come Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 20, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
As has been mentioned already to improve the overall standard of our championship, leagues and county team we must make our league meaningful and then expose as many Antrim hurlers to this as possible, yes Antrim, not Down. I agree that with a 10 or 12 team Div1 there would certainly be the odd hammering match, but as Milltown pointed out, those teams on their day would still be capable of claiming enough points to remain safe in Div 1. If the league was attached to the championship then league matches would have that extra bit of bite and improve the over all standard.

Div 2 could be linked to the intermediate championship and Div 3 linked to the junior championship. Why not give it a go, one match in August each year does not satisfy a senior hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on July 20, 2012, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 20, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
As has been mentioned already to improve the overall standard of our championship, leagues and county team we must make our league meaningful and then expose as many Antrim hurlers to this as possible, yes Antrim, not Down. I agree that with a 10 or 12 team Div1 there would certainly be the odd hammering match, but as Milltown pointed out, those teams on their day would still be capable of claiming enough points to remain safe in Div 1. If the league was attached to the championship then league matches would have that extra bit of bite and improve the over all standard.

Div 2 could be linked to the intermediate championship and Div 3 linked to the junior championship. Why not give it a go, one match in August each year does not satisfy a senior hurler.

We need to look at how the championship is run. The problem with the league is some of the bigger division 1 clubs do not take it seriously.

If we tied the championship into the league as some people are suggesting then some clubs would not play any championship games at all.

There will be the logistical nightmare for dual clubs who will not have all there best hurlers available due to football commitment. There will also be the problems with county players not always available.

We need to do a review on the championship and the clubs need to take the league more serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 20, 2012, 05:29:32 PM
getting to the stage were its only the shams and the dall that could mess about abit.  I reckon throw them into one big group.  From what i have seen this year it would benefit Oisins / Galls/ rossa.  on their given day they could beat any one.

is the antrim u21 final with derry in Casement, might make it up to it, if we all went we would probably have a fair idea of who each person is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 20, 2012, 07:05:19 PM
Quote from: oisinog on July 20, 2012, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 20, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
As has been mentioned already to improve the overall standard of our championship, leagues and county team we must make our league meaningful and then expose as many Antrim hurlers to this as possible, yes Antrim, not Down. I agree that with a 10 or 12 team Div1 there would certainly be the odd hammering match, but as Milltown pointed out, those teams on their day would still be capable of claiming enough points to remain safe in Div 1. If the league was attached to the championship then league matches would have that extra bit of bite and improve the over all standard.

Div 2 could be linked to the intermediate championship and Div 3 linked to the junior championship. Why not give it a go, one match in August each year does not satisfy a senior hurler.

We need to look at how the championship is run. The problem with the league is some of the bigger division 1 clubs do not take it seriously.If we tied the championship into the league as some people are suggesting then some clubs would not play any championship games at all.

There will be the logistical nightmare for dual clubs who will not have all there best hurlers available due to football commitment. There will also be the problems with county players not always available.

We need to do a review on the championship and the clubs need to take the league more serious.
Cushendall are unbeaten. Loughgiel are a point or so behind after a long winter. Dunloy are starting to pick up points after a bad start. What do you suggest the two 2 do??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 20, 2012, 07:05:19 PM
Quote from: oisinog on July 20, 2012, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 20, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
As has been mentioned already to improve the overall standard of our championship, leagues and county team we must make our league meaningful and then expose as many Antrim hurlers to this as possible, yes Antrim, not Down. I agree that with a 10 or 12 team Div1 there would certainly be the odd hammering match, but as Milltown pointed out, those teams on their day would still be capable of claiming enough points to remain safe in Div 1. If the league was attached to the championship then league matches would have that extra bit of bite and improve the over all standard.

Div 2 could be linked to the intermediate championship and Div 3 linked to the junior championship. Why not give it a go, one match in August each year does not satisfy a senior hurler.

We need to look at how the championship is run. The problem with the league is some of the bigger division 1 clubs do not take it seriously.If we tied the championship into the league as some people are suggesting then some clubs would not play any championship games at all.

There will be the logistical nightmare for dual clubs who will not have all there best hurlers available due to football commitment. There will also be the problems with county players not always available.

We need to do a review on the championship and the clubs need to take the league more serious.
Cushendall are unbeaten. Loughgiel are a point or so behind after a long winter. Dunloy are starting to pick up points after a bad start. What do you suggest the two 2 do??

I think he may be saying that when it was a Div 1 with the so called lesser lights the bigger teams didn't take it too serious, (the league that is) this was mainly due to the fact that they could have stayed up while beating the lesser teams and  there was no real incentive to win the league.

But by making the league determine the seeding for the championship it may make it more competitive.

I remember playing Dunloy when they were Div 2, that was 24 years ago I think theyt managed to win shite load of titles based mainly on a great juvenile team that had great players. So it's possible for a team without pedigree to be a senior championship team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 20, 2012, 11:24:51 PM
U21 final in Armagh. Yes, I know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 21, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
There's been a lot of talk recently about how to improve the standard of hurling in Antrim and I think it's detrimental to Antrim to not have the likes of Rosas glens riff and st galls in div one. These teams already provide county players and playing in div one week in and week out will only improve these teams. Down county team has benefited from their teams playing in div one and I believe increasing the league will benefit Antrim county team. I also agree withMR2 for a change that seeding league for championship will ensure teams take it seriously. Agreed NAG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 21, 2012, 03:16:34 PM
The problem with that is that if you introduce more teams the standard at the lower end of the division drops . You're only in division 1 on Merit. St. galls' first choice team would more than hold their own in division one but I'd suggest the teams they've been fielding this year wouldn't stand a chance of surviving. How would that benefit them? The likes of ourselves and cushendall would love a more competitive league, the only way that'll happen is to keep the numbers low and relegation/promotion a factor. I'm in no way belittling galls btw, just using them as an example
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 21, 2012, 03:16:34 PM
The problem with that is that if you introduce more teams the standard at the lower end of the division drops . You're only in division 1 on Merit. St. galls' first choice team would more than hold their own in division one but I'd suggest the teams they've been fielding this year wouldn't stand a chance of surviving. How would that benefit them? The likes of ourselves and cushendall would love a more competitive league, the only way that'll happen is to keep the numbers low and relegation/promotion a factor. I'm in no way belittling galls btw, just using them as an example

Agreed, we would hold our own with are main players playing every week, but I have said that if the leagues were played were every team plays each other once then it breaks into two groups based on there placings after they have played, then it really becomes competitive later on. All the stronger teams (based on their initial standings after the first games) in one group and the lower end teams in another competitive group.
Factor in the seedings for Senior championship and you have a competitive league with more Antrim teams playing. Everybody wins!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 21, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2012, 04:27:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 21, 2012, 03:16:34 PM
The problem with that is that if you introduce more teams the standard at the lower end of the division drops . You're only in division 1 on Merit. St. galls' first choice team would more than hold their own in division one but I'd suggest the teams they've been fielding this year wouldn't stand a chance of surviving. How would that benefit them? The likes of ourselves and cushendall would love a more competitive league, the only way that'll happen is to keep the numbers low and relegation/promotion a factor. I'm in no way belittling galls btw, just using them as an example

Agreed, we would hold our own with are main players playing every week, but I have said that if the leagues were played were every team plays each other once then it breaks into two groups based on there placings after they have played, then it really becomes competitive later on. All the stronger teams (based on their initial standings after the first games) in one group and the lower end teams in another competitive group.
Factor in the seedings for Senior championship and you have a competitive league with more Antrim teams playing. Everybody wins!!!!
That's fine but with the exception of the Down teams, I don't think the leagues/placings/ seedings would look much different than they do now. Same teams at the top and contending the semis/final. Same teams lower down getting beat early.

I actually don't think there's much wrong with the league structure as it is. The fact is that the "bigger" clubs like to win it but it doesn't really matter if they don't. That's just how it is up here. It means much more to the clubs struggling at the bottom of div. 1 and the clubs in contention at the top of div. 2. Your suggestion would probably benefit the likes of your own club MR2 but not really make much difference overall.

The conclusion is that Cushendall and Loughgiel will always have an advantage over the dual clubs because of that very reason, we only play hurling. Plus we are both big clubs with huge turnouts at training every evening at all ages and levels.  And as I've said before, maybe a few of the Belfast and country clubs should look at amalgamating at senior level , if even only in hurling, like some do already at underage levels. I know it's a tough ask but I believe it would be to the betterment of  hurling in Antrim. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Glenariffe beat Sarsfields by 4 in Belfast, a game I thought we might slip up in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 22, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Glenariffe beat Sarsfields by 4 in Belfast, a game I thought we might slip up in.

You would hardly have seen it seeing you were in M&S there ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 22, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Glenariffe beat Sarsfields by 4 in Belfast, a game I thought we might slip up in.

You would hardly have seen it seeing you were in M&S there ;)

No trailed out against my will, you don't miss much, were you in the ladies lingerie section again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2012, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 22, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 22, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Glenariffe beat Sarsfields by 4 in Belfast, a game I thought we might slip up in.

You would hardly have seen it seeing you were in M&S there ;)

No trailed out against my will, you don't miss much, were you in the ladies lingerie section again?

Was sitting in car waiting on the wife getting dinner!!
We beat Tir Na Og handy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2012, 05:15:06 PM
Thanks for any reports lads I didn't get to a match today.

Thought that would be a tight one for oisins so pulling thru perhaps shows they most deserving of promotion.

I thought Rossa would struggle Gort is a tight pitch great leveller and I see a club wedding lasts 3/4 days in Rossa!

What about st johns anyone?

Mr2 will the county footballers being finished help ur boys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 22, 2012, 06:53:39 PM
Went to the Rossa and Gort game today, agreed standard wasn't great, but it never really is on such a tight pitch and both teams giving it their all for the win. The main thing I took from this game was that it was the type Rossa considering the amount of players they were missing today that they would have lost in previous years. Bit of confusion over the dates of Rossa and Glenariffe games as Rossa are due to play Loughgiel in championship soon.

Good win for St Galls and hard luck to Sarsfields who seemed to have put up a brace performance against Glenariffe. Glenariffe still favourites for promotion, but if they face Rossa in two games with the city boys having a full team I would fancy Rossa for promotion. I always said it would be these two even when St Galls and Sarsfields were ahead of Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2012, 06:59:33 PM
Glenariffe v Rossa is down for 5th August.

What are the championship dates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 22, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
Rossa v Loughgiel down for that same weekend also. Championship over league, plenty of time around end of August and September for those league games to be played. Considering both teams will more than likely have been knocked out of the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2012, 07:53:02 PM
Fair enough city slicker I have often ruled hardstation
By knocking Rossa but credit to Shannon & aidan Hamill they have brought the side back against the odds. I just think the number of players continually missing will mean oisins deserve promotion.

Looks like the decisive league game will be moved then - this might mean both games are played close together. Oisins just need a draw from either game hard to see them not getting it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 22, 2012, 08:07:21 PM
was talking to a mate who was at the oisins V sars

he said it was a good battle though oisins were well worth their victory.  He said a sars manager got the line for cursing to the referee.
looks like the glenariffe lads are going to win the league, though Rossa could beat them twice, stranger things have happened.  mate (admittedly a sars man) reckoned they could of had them.  he said there forwards were pretty toothless.  the sars conceded a soft goal.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 23, 2012, 09:30:51 AM
You have mates Saff ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 10:45:21 AM
County seeking internal applications for both managerial positions with the holders of both positions being considered

If Baker wants the football job I can't see it being changed. For Hurling- god knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 10:59:12 AM
Are we allowed to have a county team without sambo involved in some way colonel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 10:59:12 AM
Are we allowed to have a county team without sambo involved in some way colonel?

Certainly...... but have we men beating down the door to be involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
Has anybody any serious suggestions for a manager ?

Is it fair to say that a cushendall, shamrocks or Dunloy man wouldnt get the support of all the players due to the rivalry , silly as it may be ?.
Eg: Would PJ (Not o Hare) be a good county manager and get the support of Dall/Dunloy players ?
Do we have to get an outside manager to avoid the internal rivalry or would a city manager not face the same problems as a North antrim manager ?

Are there any good young managers out there in any of the clubs that we are not aware of ?
I would like to see a youngish manager in place with fresh ideas and a fresh approach.

Gerard Rogan seems to be doing a decent enough job with Derry considering the resources at his disposal.

Mickey Mc Cullough still looking HS  :)
MR2 interested or are you tied up with refereeing now ?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 24, 2012, 11:28:06 AM
Quote from: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
Has anybody any serious suggestions for a manager ?

Is it fair to say that a cushendall, shamrocks or Dunloy man wouldnt get the support of all the players due to the rivalry , silly as it may be ?.
Eg: Would PJ (Not o Hare) be a good county manager and get the support of Dall/Dunloy players ?
Do we have to get an outside manager to avoid the internal rivalry or would a city manager not face the same problems as a North antrim manager ?

Are there any good young managers out there in any of the clubs that we are not aware of ?
I would like to see a youngish manager in place with fresh ideas and a fresh approach.

Gerard Rogan seems to be doing a decent enough job with Derry considering the resources at his disposal.

Mickey Mc Cullough still looking HS  :)
MR2 interested or are you tied up with refereeing now ?

rogie, Jonty Johnson and Crossey all have experience at managing intercounty teams. Would none of them get a look in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 24, 2012, 11:28:06 AM
Quote from: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
Has anybody any serious suggestions for a manager ?

Is it fair to say that a cushendall, shamrocks or Dunloy man wouldnt get the support of all the players due to the rivalry , silly as it may be ?.
Eg: Would PJ (Not o Hare) be a good county manager and get the support of Dall/Dunloy players ?
Do we have to get an outside manager to avoid the internal rivalry or would a city manager not face the same problems as a North antrim manager ?

Are there any good young managers out there in any of the clubs that we are not aware of ?
I would like to see a youngish manager in place with fresh ideas and a fresh approach.

Gerard Rogan seems to be doing a decent enough job with Derry considering the resources at his disposal.

Mickey Mc Cullough still looking HS  :)
MR2 interested or are you tied up with refereeing now ?

rogie, Jonty Johnson and Crossey all have experience at managing intercounty teams. Would none of them get a look in?

JC none of these are respected (Bar Rogie but for different reasons) by hurling people in Antrim. These are not the type of people that we should be looking to recruit to run our Flag Ship team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 11:37:31 AM
Hardstation I am not sure McCullough has the necessary experience especially given his times to date so far and the baggage left - only taken one senior hurling team and how did that work out!

For Rogan I really don't think a "decent" job with a county at Derry standard should be considered as preparation of our county job.

Crossey has never been really considered suitable for the spin/PR side both in and outside the county - despite having better credentials than both the above.

I think you might be on to something with Mickey Johnston however.
He has some experience, a plethora of contacts in the south, and I would say for his own promotion would not be looking a big pay check to scare off the county money men.

Either that or back to Dinny - with sambo in some role of course!
Or is there another random southern accent that will clock up a few miles to use Antrim as a stepping stone - not that it's worked for previous incumbents.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
They probably should do but we prefer complete bluffers in Antrim.

And who is this a dig at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
Quote from: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
Has anybody any serious suggestions for a manager ?

Is it fair to say that a cushendall, shamrocks or Dunloy man wouldnt get the support of all the players due to the rivalry , silly as it may be ?.
Eg: Would PJ (Not o Hare) be a good county manager and get the support of Dall/Dunloy players ?
Do we have to get an outside manager to avoid the internal rivalry or would a city manager not face the same problems as a North antrim manager ?

Are there any good young managers out there in any of the clubs that we are not aware of ?
I would like to see a youngish manager in place with fresh ideas and a fresh approach.

Gerard Rogan seems to be doing a decent enough job with Derry considering the resources at his disposal.

Mickey Mc Cullough still looking HS  :)
MR2 interested or are you tied up with refereeing now ?

Correct HS, it was my initial suggestion but a bit toungue in cheek which i believe HS picked up on unlike some :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 24, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
would be ecstatic to see Dinny cahill in as a coach (but coaching role only)

manager none of the above (though who wants it????)

some kn**ker about the greater Dublin area would be ideal as journey around 1hr and half which is not too bad

is Nicky English ready to dip his toe back in the water again????

Reckon Dubs would love him but Daly will give it one more year

Sambo let him stick to minors, with McCullough in there with him.

can't wait to hear SIE's views on PJ for the hot seat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
They probably should do but we prefer complete bluffers in Antrim.

And who is this a dig at?
Wallis, Sambo........you decide.

Bluffer?? Wind your neck in. The former made a mess of things however how much grief has Dick O'Kane got over him walking away? Sambo gets beaten with the same stick over and over again. And hopefully he only keeps on one job next year- managing our u12s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 12:06:06 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
They probably should do but we prefer complete bluffers in Antrim.

And who is this a dig at?
Wallis, Sambo........you decide.

Bluffer?? Wind your neck in. The former made a mess of things however how much grief has Dick O'Kane got over him walking away? Sambo gets beaten with the same stick over and over again. And hopefully he only keeps on one job next year- managing our u12s
Last year our minors walked Ulster. This year's team was backboned by many of the same players that backboned last year's team. This year's team was supposedly better than last year's team (which is why Sambo took it but wouldn't touch it last year). Bate by Down.

Pathetic.

You seem the pathetic one with your constant belittling of someone who I would be sure has given Antrim far more service than yourself.

Supposedly better doesn't cut it. The big players were poor and believed too much in their own hype. This year, several players wouldn't train, refused to wear certain numbers, slept in for Ulster Finals. Players needed to take a good look at themselves and I include some of our own who wouldn't go. Down were a good team and I'd say they never get the credit they deserved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
A bit touchy there colonel...is it not a reflection on any manager though if players wont commit to him ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
A bit touchy there colonel...is it not a reflection on any manager though if players wont commit to him ?

He is calling a clubmate and someone I respect a bluffer. I believe it to be entirely untrue so I am going to defend them. Some players seem to only want to hurl on their terms. Is it a bad reflection on Brian Cody that Cha Fitzpatrick won't hurl for Kilkenny? St Gall's footballers and Antrim. You could go on. A very throw away viewpoint manballandall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 12:31:14 PM


You seem the pathetic one with your constant belittling of someone who I would be sure has given Antrim far more service than yourself.

Supposedly better doesn't cut it. The big players were poor and believed too much in their own hype. This year, several players wouldn't train, refused to wear certain numbers, slept in for Ulster Finals. Players needed to take a good look at themselves and I include some of our own who wouldn't go. Down were a good team and I'd say they never get the credit they deserved.
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I take your point on board colonel but when it is several players involved which you stated then I think they may be an issue with the manager....i know with the st galls footballers there was a clash with the manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 12:36:20 PM
HS has an issue with Sambo, we all know that and understand the reasons behind it Colonel being a club mate is always going to stick up for him, no big deal, nothing to see here move on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 12:37:26 PM
Apologies HS and manandball - out on road and reading while driving. Picked up McCullough post wrong! Agreed on most points then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
They probably should do but we prefer complete bluffers in Antrim.

And who is this a dig at?
Wallis, Sambo........you decide.

Bluffer?? Wind your neck in. The former made a mess of things however how much grief has Dick O'Kane got over him walking away? Sambo gets beaten with the same stick over and over again. And hopefully he only keeps on one job next year- managing our u12s

all irrelevant now anyhow as it seems he has found his niche now...they must be a good team ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
Seems to be the major thing within Antrim county setups and even more so in clubs, getting respect from the players and getting them to commit. When you are winning games this is not a problem, Loughgiel, Cushendall will have a fair few lads committed to training and putting effort into their matches.

Mainly due to the fact that the team could go on and win championships and have a good run at All Irelands. My own club have the same  attitude (well football) numbers at training and lads buying into the thought of winning a All Ireland (again)

Trying to build that from a county/club that hasn't been winning or in contention is a major problem, throw in the odd internal feuding and it becomes a lot harder. Only needs one player to be rowing in the other direction to ruin a team.

I'd say county management is wile hard to do, so many Prima donna's with big ideas of themselves all in the one changing room!! Good luck to anyone interested in taking these things on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 11:29:52 AM
They probably should do but we prefer complete bluffers in Antrim.

And who is this a dig at?
Wallis, Sambo........you decide.

Bluffer?? Wind your neck in. The former made a mess of things however how much grief has Dick O'Kane got over him walking away? Sambo gets beaten with the same stick over and over again. And hopefully he only keeps on one job next year- managing our u12s

all irrelevant now anyhow as it seems he has found his niche now...they must be a good team ;)

Not as good as last years team which he wasn't involved with  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Lads we have been here for a while now as far as I see it, a manager is there to create the right atmosphere and ethos to make the team successful. He is there to deal with any issues which arise while keeping everyone focused and on the right path. I for one dont believe that you can do this and coach the team at every training session. So he is required to build a team around himself, problem seems to be that we have had too many big egos along the line who wouldnt let any control out of their area and then they dont receive any backing when things blow up.

Manager there to pick the team make the big calls, deal with the press and create the unity and togetherness for the group. A hurling coach to coach the team in the method that the manager wants and to the mangers style/ tactics of hurling. So in my rationale the Manager doesnt necessarily need to be a great ex player or even a good player, as long as he is respected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2012, 01:13:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Lads we have been here for a while now as far as I see it, a manager is there to create the right atmosphere and ethos to make the team successful. He is there to deal with any issues which arise while keeping everyone focused and on the right path. I for one dont believe that you can do this and coach the team at every training session. So he is required to build a team around himself, problem seems to be that we have had too many big egos along the line who wouldnt let any control out of their area and then they dont receive any backing when things blow up.

Manager there to pick the team make the big calls, deal with the press and create the unity and togetherness for the group. A hurling coach to coach the team in the method that the manager wants and to the mangers style/ tactics of hurling. So in my rationale the Manager doesnt necessarily need to be a great ex player or even a good player, as long as he is respected.

Correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 01:14:58 PM
Totally agree NAG...man management also a massive necessity.

Still no one has gave any suggestions ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 01:23:35 PM
Off the top of my head people who could fill either manager or coach role,

Brian White
Shane Elliott
Jim Nelson

That would be my kind of thinking on it, I know there are more out there just was a quick response.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 24, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
Doubt Jim will take it, Jonty maybe deserves a shot but then there is the likelihood that any appointment from within the county is likely to lead to crying that the manager is a Cushendall/Loughgiel/Dunloy/Belfast etc etc bastard who won't pick our players and hates everyone because he is alleged to have had a bad pint in their club once. Then we are back to square one. Think you do need someone from outside really, both manager and coach.
Football, would Lenny Harbinson not do a good job? Didn't do badly with St Gall's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
I wasnt advocating any of the above for it was merely pointing out the type of person I feel would be suited, but I would be one that wouldnt be in favour of having MJ involved. Nothing to do with him being from Belfast or being a successful under age coach. Pure and simple I dont think he is the type of character I would want representing me as Manager of my county team, personal opinion yes but there you go.

As I said if before if you go for a general manager he can then build a team around him capable of getting all clubs on board, that's part of being the manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Surely someone in here could do the job? We have a few experts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
And a few Egos Two Hands  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
It's ok NAG your not one of them - the ego's that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
Think Lenny would have the same problem as Baker...in that no st galls players would play for him (except those related to him)  :)

Jerry Wallace would have won an all ireland football title with that st galls team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 24, 2012, 02:18:05 PM
To totally change the subject, SIE any truth in the rumour you lads submitted the video of the recent clash with Dunloy, and CC is for the high jump based on the video evidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
If he is suspended does that rule him out of refereeing also ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 24, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
The referee booked both players for their involvements, is the rule not as such that neither can now be punished.  I would have been surprised at Loughgiel submitting video footage that would also incriminate one of their own players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
I would have said you were correct there Max, what would be the need for either this video to be submitted or requested?

Are we now going to do this for every game across the county and every incident between two players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on July 24, 2012, 02:44:45 PM
Does it really matter a shite who the county manager is?  At the end of the day we'll be happy if we:
1. Win Ulster
2. Don't get relegated in the league
3. Don't get a tanking in Leinster
4. Don't get a tanking in the qualifiers

If we do any more than this (ie.  winning first game in Leinster/qualifiers)  then it's a successful year. 

All this chat about needing a coach for the hurling side and a manager for the "spin/PR"...catch a grip!  We had one boy make an absolute tube of himself with this "spin/PR" and now we need someone specifically to deal with it?  Surely to god we have men within the county with enough gumption not to say that Brian Corcoran's finished or to ring RTÉ to lose footage.

I think if Dick wants the job it's his.  He's an excellent coach and didn't lose himself in the papers when he left the set up this year.  As for boys not playing for him because he's from Dunloy...they all managed it just fine when he was at Jordanstown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 24, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
Well thats it sorted then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
Nice post gelvis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 24, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
I don't think Pj would touch the Antrim job with a barge pole. Good luck to whoever takes it, they'll need it.

Haven't heard anything about a video being submitted mibag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 24, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 24, 2012, 02:18:05 PM
To totally change the subject, SIE any truth in the rumour you lads submitted the video of the recent clash with Dunloy, and CC is for the high jump based on the video evidence?

only one person in north Antrim not letting this go is yourself. once again what is your obsession with CC. why would LG submit a video that would incriminate one of there players to. I think you need to see a shrink about this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 24, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 24, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
The referee booked both players for their involvements, is the rule not as such that neither can now be punished.  I would have been surprised at Loughgiel submitting video footage that would also incriminate one of their own players

Correct, as per stated on the Sunday Game this week regarding the Kerry player who hit Colm Cavanagh

Also to use video evidence you would have needed to have prior consent from the opposing club and the relevant competition control committee/secretary which unless has changed recently Loughgiel have failed to do so continually without sanction
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 24, 2012, 06:07:04 PM
Just had an update. The county board had requested a copy of the game from Loughgiel after they read the referee's report. Any club are allowed to video the games on the permission of the county board/GAA. If the county board request the footage, the club in question have to give it up as a stipulation of said permission or they can lose the right to video the games. Just to make it clear, we did not report this to anyone! it was at the county's request.

But sure, if it's as clear cut as everyone suggests sure nobody has anything to worry about.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on July 24, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Culbert
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on July 24, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Culbert
+1.   id take him onboard my plan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.

Oh I didn't realise the '89 didn't have any belfast lads on it - like eh the captain maybe.
Joke or not this exposes an under-lying attitude and I thought by now north Antrim would realise that they can't do it alone - the glens are not a hurling stronghold at all when it comes to inter county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.

Do you think that beaver would get the respect of antrim players. I would have my doubts. He disappeared off the planet for nearly 20 years. Class player but not a great servant to hurling since he pulled the pin.

Agree with MR re the Antrim job. Tough position to do "well" (whatever that is) in it would seem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.

Oh I didn't realise the '89 didn't have any belfast lads on it - like eh the captain maybe.
Joke or not this exposes an under-lying attitude and I thought by now north Antrim would realise that they can't do it alone - the glens are not a hurling stronghold at all when it comes to inter county hurling.
who said they didnt have belfast lads on team??   jesus lad calm down!!   pick someone a put them forward to the conversation and dont get your knickers in a twist!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 12:19:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 24, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.

Do you think that beaver would get the respect of antrim players. I would have my doubts. He disappeared off the planet for nearly 20 years. Class player but not a great servant to hurling since he pulled the pin.

Agree with MR re the Antrim job. Tough position to do "well" (whatever that is) in it would seem.
i didnt say it had to be him skull,  doesnt even have to be l,guile man,  thats just my thinking of getting few lads who has been round the block, and might have respect of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2012, 06:22:50 AM
Lads, just a light interjection into this debate for a while. I was browsing the O'Neill's website this morning and stumbled upon this page:

http://www.oneills.com/gift-ideas/club-helmets/ulster/antrim.html

And just to prove I'm not that biased, the Dunloy helmet:

(http://www.oneills.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/small_image/150x180/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/u/dunloy_cuchullians_green_amber_2.jpg)


What do we think of the idea of clubs/counties adopting the club/county coloured and crested helmet as an official piece of the whole kit? I've been talking about this to a few lads and to be fair they're indifferent about it but I think it would look class. Just an idea, I think i remember Cork taking the field with all red/white helmets a few years back.

On another note, no feckin Loughgiel helmets on that site!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2012, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2012, 06:22:50 AM

On another note, no feckin Loughgiel helmets on that site!!!!!!!

They don't make any big enough for Loughgeil lads......  ;D

Forgot about Jimbo McKernan, would he not take the Antrim job again or is the cost of a new set of trainers to match the white shirt and matching trousers too much?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
JC for God's sake, dont be starting HS off again man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 25, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
James McNaughtons presence might rule out a few Cushendall players !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 25, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
James McNaughtons presence might rule out a few Cushendall players !

and a few cushendall players

Culbert mighten be the worst idea, i'd say there would be no complaints from Cushendall / st galls or most people, until a few months in.

Culbert with Cahill as coach

what about some of the development officers within county, are they allowed to take a role with minors or u21's or do they have to stick with development squads, or are they allowed with them????

how many development officers do we have???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2012, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 25, 2012, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2012, 06:22:50 AM

On another note, no feckin Loughgiel helmets on that site!!!!!!!

They don't make any big enough for Loughgeil lads......  ;D

Forgot about Jimbo McKernan, would he not take the Antrim job again or is the cost of a new set of trainers to match the white shirt and matching trousers too much?
Don't forget a new tracksuit and bike for Digger.

Digger needs a new backpack as well after he bust the zip on his last one when with Down. It just couldn't hold out to all the sandwiches and hurling balls stuffed into it every night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 10:50:58 AM
Culbert a great trainer in terms of physical fitness and strength and conditioning...not sure about managing though.

Has he ever managed a hurling team ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 25, 2012, 10:58:40 AM
Was involved with Antrim hurling before he was involved with the football squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Jackie Webb involved with antrim for the past few years would love the opportunity.....think he is being lined up for his club post though.

Lives and breathes hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:06:14 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Jackie Webb involved with antrim for the past few years would love the opportunity.....think he is being lined up for his club post though.

Lives and breathes hurling

That alone does not make you a viable candidate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
Worked under Cahill and Wallace, knows hurking inside out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Again dont doubt what you are saying, but so did a few others and would claim the same and I wouldnt have them either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
who is jackie webb

is he that oul white haired fellow

what club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Again dont doubt what you are saying, but so did a few others and would claim the same and I wouldnt have them either.

He's on the wind up FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Again dont doubt what you are saying, but so did a few others and would claim the same and I wouldnt have them either.

He's on the wind up FFS

MR2 I am aware of that I am just taking his point and making a serious one from it.

Alot of these so called 'know hurling inside out' types are not suitable to be involved with teams, every club has them and most would never be in the club from one week to the next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2012, 02:27:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 24, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
also heard someone from county had contacted club looking the video.   on mangers note.  id approach James mc naughton from c,dall, Gary o, kane dunloy, and either Aidan mc carry or Neil paterson and see if they would give it a go between them,   not meaning any harm to city clubs by not asking anyone from there :D    just like to see few lads from that good antrim team in and see if they could get the lads pulling together.

Oh I didn't realise the '89 didn't have any belfast lads on it - like eh the captain maybe.
Joke or not this exposes an under-lying attitude and I thought by now north Antrim would realise that they can't do it alone - the glens are not a hurling stronghold at all when it comes to inter county hurling.

he lives in dublin...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2012, 06:22:50 AM
Lads, just a light interjection into this debate for a while. I was browsing the O'Neill's website this morning and stumbled upon this page:

http://www.oneills.com/gift-ideas/club-helmets/ulster/antrim.html

And just to prove I'm not that biased, the Dunloy helmet:

(http://www.oneills.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/small_image/150x180/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/u/dunloy_cuchullians_green_amber_2.jpg)


What do we think of the idea of clubs/counties adopting the club/county coloured and crested helmet as an official piece of the whole kit? I've been talking about this to a few lads and to be fair they're indifferent about it but I think it would look class. Just an idea, I think i remember Cork taking the field with all red/white helmets a few years back.

On another note, no feckin Loughgiel helmets on that site!!!!!!!

O Neils are working on the LG helmet,its slighty different from other clubs, theres are hole   in the forehead section just above the eyes for there dicks :) :) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Again dont doubt what you are saying, but so did a few others and would claim the same and I wouldnt have them either.

He's on the wind up FFS

You disagree with my sentiments MR2 ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 25, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Again dont doubt what you are saying, but so did a few others and would claim the same and I wouldnt have them either.

He's on the wind up FFS

You disagree with my sentiments MR2 ?

I'm not at liberty to say manballandall!!! and you know that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
NAH, you honestly are a dick.  Jealous much mate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
SG are you off for the big festival of hurling in Birr this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
I might stick around home and get run out in league against the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Thought that match might have been rescheduled no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 03:55:30 PM
I think that match was already put back,  so therefore has to be played.  Don't no if wel have team about or not,  was messing.  My hurling days are long gone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2012, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 03:31:16 PM
NAH, you honestly are a dick.  Jealous much mate

and your a dick thats just had a sense of humor by-pass,was joking what happened to your friendly banter policy. wind you neck in. ill keep it serious form now on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
Oh we know that NAH! Lets wait and see shall we ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
Oh we know that NAH! Lets wait and see shall we ;D

dont what that means nice to see a post from you without the word skinny or letters CC in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
3rd hole thing a bit childish, no?  Anyways. Banter is good. But that wasn't great.  Next!!!!;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
I know, give it a while and I will not disappoint you I'm sure, check the football thread had a go at one of my own, who shouldn't be allowed back on the field after the cover up that took place in Cargin!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:23:16 PM
NAG1 you follow camogie much?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Jeepers its great being allowed back on, must behave myself though to many names mentioned in the past, moderator felt i needed a break for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2012, 04:27:24 PM
Not especially used to a bit more but havent been to a game in the last couple of seasons I would say.

Random question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Jeepers its great being allowed back on, must behave myself though to many names mentioned in the past, moderator felt i needed a break for a while.

you are not that ball bag from Ballymena previously another B ????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2012, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 05:01:18 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on July 25, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
Jeepers its great being allowed back on, must behave myself though to many names mentioned in the past, moderator felt i needed a break for a while.

you are not that ball bag from Ballymena previously another B ????

I'm with the moderator
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 08:45:13 PM
anyone in Armagh to keep us in touch with the score.  if it had of been casement i might have, but no chance armagh.  if they win we'll be able to watch it live thanks to TG4.  Brilliant channel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 25, 2012, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 08:45:13 PM
anyone in Armagh to keep us in touch with the score.  if it had of been casement i might have, but no chance armagh.  if they win we'll be able to watch it live thanks to TG4.  Brilliant channel

Antrim 2-20 to Derry1-12 FT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 09:15:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 25, 2012, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 25, 2012, 08:45:13 PM
anyone in Armagh to keep us in touch with the score.  if it had of been casement i might have, but no chance armagh.  if they win we'll be able to watch it live thanks to TG4.  Brilliant channel

Antrim 2-20 to Derry1-12 FT.

I'm sure Tony will give us a match report ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
When is the next game? Did they struggle to get a squad together to go to the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 26, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
When is the next game? Did they struggle to get a squad together to go to the game?

I think it will be Galway, there were 25 players in the photo after the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 26, 2012, 03:20:35 PM
Much better squad and training this year I hear, compared to the last few years anyway. Still some players capable of playing not turning up. Hopefully though this improvement continues over the next few years and we can start to put in better performances on the All Ireland stage, u21 is an age where I feel Antrim could have potential as some of our better players only really develop after minor. Obviously senior results don't back this up, but still worth sorting out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 26, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 26, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
When is the next game? Did they struggle to get a squad together to go to the game?

I think it will be Galway, there were 25 players in the photo after the game.

Have an idea its the Munster champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 26, 2012, 04:42:50 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 26, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 26, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
When is the next game? Did they struggle to get a squad together to go to the game?

I think it will be Galway, there were 25 players in the photo after the game.

Have an idea its the Munster champions.

I thought they played Tipp a couple of years ago, maybe not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 26, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 26, 2012, 04:42:50 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 26, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 26, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 26, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
When is the next game? Did they struggle to get a squad together to go to the game?

I think it will be Galway, there were 25 players in the photo after the game.

Have an idea its the Munster champions.

I thought they played Tipp a couple of years ago, maybe not.
They did in 2010 then Dublin last year and it'll be Galway this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 26, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
I think u21 still works of the old rules, ulster never meet Galway, unless the final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 26, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 26, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
I think u21 still works of the old rules, ulster never meet Galway, unless the final!

If it works off the old rules (them were the days) then surely Galway have an 'automatic' pass through to the semi and we could play them.

That's not to say it is Galway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 26, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Glensman on July 26, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: maxpower on July 26, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
I think u21 still works of the old rules, ulster never meet Galway, unless the final!

If it works off the old rules (them were the days) then surely Galway have an 'automatic' pass through to the semi and we could play them.

That's not to say it is Galway!

http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/national-fixtures/search-results/

Munster v Antrim. We'll take the whole province...nae bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 26, 2012, 11:14:22 PM
In the old day ulster couldn't play Connaught in the semi, check out the number of times Antrim meet Galway! This was because in many years these teams wouldn't have had a provincial final and so it was deemed unfair to 'guarantee' one team a final position with just one match!

As well as that it would have been a soft AI appearance for Galway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
You'll be pleased to hear that loughgiel are holding their own in Birr. Beat tullaroan by 2 points. 0-23 to 2-15  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
You'll be pleased to hear that loughgiel are holding their own in Birr. Beat tullaroan by 2 points. 0-23 to 2-15  :)

Another All Ireland in the bag FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
You'll be pleased to hear that loughgiel are holding their own in Birr. Beat tullaroan by 2 points. 0-23 to 2-15  :)

Another All Ireland in the bag FFS
I got the score wrong. It was 2-16 to 0-24. playing Birr next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 28, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
I see Cushendall minors gave Loughgiel a bit of a trimming last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 28, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 28, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
I see Cushendall minors gave Loughgiel a bit of a trimming last night.

And played really badly also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: the colonel on July 28, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 28, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
I see Cushendall minors gave Loughgiel a bit of a trimming last night.

And played really badly also
the Dall have a good minor team though. it's getting that talent to keep going through to the seniors that's the trick. Just ask the Johnnies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2012, 03:17:05 PM
How many minor championships have the Johnnies won in the last 30 years?
not sure. Current champions though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2012, 03:38:30 PM
They've won 2 or 3 in the last ten years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 28, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Agreed hardstation Rossa have won far more minors recently notably in the 90s.
But also failed to bring them through!

Granted its not all a clubs fault there is only so much any club can do with other influences (we don't need to go into that been there before).

SIE I take it the league fixture v dall tomorrow is a token gesture given your efforts in birr?
Impressive I must say - fact is that loughiel are the big guns there not the southern teams.

St johns ballygalget coming up - massive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2012, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 28, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
Agreed hardstation Rossa have won far more minors recently notably in the 90s.
But also failed to bring them through!

Granted its not all a clubs fault there is only so much any club can do with other influences (we don't need to go into that been there before).

SIE I take it the league fixture v dall tomorrow is a token gesture given your efforts in birr?
Impressive I must say - fact is that loughiel are the big guns there not the southern teams.

St johns ballygalget coming up - massive.
I'm not sure if it's still on. Just supping a pint in the bridge bar here. Not a sinner in it bar me. Hard times folks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 28, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Shams 1-17......Birr 1- 12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 28, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Shams 1-17......Birr 1- 12.

When did Birr last win the Offaly club Championship? Are they playing Coolederry tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 28, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
Is this what it's done to, posting Loughgiel friendly updates. There werent too many updates pre-2010.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 28, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
 ::) (shakes head and wonders what's yer man's problem)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 28, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 28, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Shams 1-17......Birr 1- 12.

When did Birr last win the Offaly club Championship? Are they playing Coolederry tomorrow?

Last win 2003, beaten finalists in 2008. Play Coolderry in final tomorrow at 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 11:43:03 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 28, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 28, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Shams 1-17......Birr 1- 12.

When did Birr last win the Offaly club Championship? Are they playing Coolederry tomorrow?

Last win 2003, beaten finalists in 2008. Play Coolderry in final tomorrow at 4.

Cheers pididdy, that will be a decent test but you should do well in that considering ya beating the mighty Birr
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 01:38:18 AM
Saffrongael..........".jealous guy tra la la la etc."....not anything worth updating from your lot.........prior to or after 2010.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 29, 2012, 05:58:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 29, 2012, 03:24:28 AM
Rossa seniors beat their U16s 2-08 to 1-10 in a challenge match this evening. A goal from a last minute Chris Hamill penalty won the game for the senior side. Hurling well.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
All-Ireland champions Loughgiel Shamrocks beat Coolderry today by 0-14 to 1-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 29, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
Great stuff, that's brightened up my day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Thanks Optimus cheese,you're sarcasm is noted but at least it's not the usual doom and gloom about Antrim hurling.We're doing our best to do something positive unlike some.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 29, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Thanks Optimus cheese,you're sarcasm is noted but at least it's not the usual doom and gloom about Antrim hurling.We're doing our best to do something positive unlike some.

What play in friendly tournaments ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 09:36:22 PM
No need to sound so condescending, an Antrim win at any level is as scarce as hens teeth. You should know that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 29, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 29, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on July 29, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Thanks Optimus cheese,you're sarcasm is noted but at least it's not the usual doom and gloom about Antrim hurling.We're doing our best to do something positive unlike some.

What play in friendly tournaments ?
playing and winning friendly tournaments.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 29, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
So anything other than our own league and championship is a friendly game and not worth talking about? maybe thats where we're going wrong in this county! Nothing too friendly about the final against Coolderry by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2012, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 29, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
So anything other than our own league and championship is a friendly game and not worth talking about? maybe thats where we're going wrong in this county! Nothing too friendly about the final against Coolderry by the way.

Rossa will be blown away by the Shams.

We played their seconds tonight at Casement they won handy, though in fairness we had a man sent off after 13 minutes, level halftime but wiped out in second half. Managed a few points myself in game but disappointed that "maybe" my last final ended in defeat :-\. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 29, 2012, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 29, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
So anything other than our own league and championship is a friendly game and not worth talking about? maybe thats where we're going wrong in this county! Nothing too friendly about the final against Coolderry by the way.

Game cut up rough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 30, 2012, 12:35:12 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 29, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
So anything other than our own league and championship is a friendly game and not worth talking about? maybe thats where we're going wrong in this county! Nothing too friendly about the final against Coolderry by the way.

No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 30, 2012, 01:09:15 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 29, 2012, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on July 29, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
So anything other than our own league and championship is a friendly game and not worth talking about? maybe thats where we're going wrong in this county! Nothing too friendly about the final against Coolderry by the way.

Game cut up rough?

Just in home, great weekend. Liam Watson got a fair bit of treatment from all three teams Loughgiel faced.  He was struck in the face after the ball went out of play after 4-5 minutes against Coolderry (dirty stroke).  Had to go off, not sure how badly he was hurt. Potential broken nose.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 02:33:58 AM
Ok then here goes - I am biases towards Belfast but I am also realistic.

HS - you need to get over yourself. Your antipathy towards reports from loughiel in birr betrays the fact that Rossa will be on the receiving end of a massive beating this weekend. As for your sarcasm I met Hamill personally on Friday he was in no state to play hurling again let alone hit that under16 penalty. (another one who won't be in casement next week)

SIE thanks for the updates - I think the dall are building up for an assault on the Shams but loughiel have moved a step ahead of that. Guys loughiel are the team. Get over it. 

Now at the risk of deflecting from silver wear - my personal interest has switched to st johns. Not my favourite people but flying the flag for Belfast. Let's hope the johnnies stay up. It looks good but Galget a big game   

Mr2 has not the curse of the big ball hit st galls again. Still the team for me but who can argue with success? I just wish it was with the caman as well as the big ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 30, 2012, 07:58:03 AM
Poor wee Liam and sure he never pulls a dirty stroke himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 02:33:58 AM
Ok then here goes - I am biases towards Belfast but I am also realistic.

HS - you need to get over yourself. Your antipathy towards reports from loughiel in birr betrays the fact that Rossa will be on the receiving end of a massive beating this weekend. As for your sarcasm I met Hamill personally on Friday he was in no state to play hurling again let alone hit that under16 penalty. (another one who won't be in casement next week)

SIE thanks for the updates - I think the dall are building up for an assault on the Shams but loughiel have moved a step ahead of that. Guys loughiel are the team. Get over it. 

Now at the risk of deflecting from silver wear - my personal interest has switched to st johns. Not my favourite people but flying the flag for Belfast. Let's hope the johnnies stay up. It looks good but Galget a big game   

Mr2 has not the curse of the big ball hit st galls again. Still the team for me but who can argue with success? I just wish it was with the caman as well as the big ball.

It was a friendly tournament who gives a damn other than the LG posters about it? Good preparation for them for the championship but outside of the what odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2012, 11:00:16 AM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/newsimages/Antrim%20Championship%20Dates.pdf

Anyone with the inside track as to when the rest of the days/venues/times will be out for the Junior/Intermediate championships? I appreciate there is not normally alot of notice in these things but was just checking in anyone knew?
Will try the county website but will be told to hit the CCC - is there an email for the CCC?

Seem strange that some hurling preliminaries are this coming weekend...with the next round a month away? Tough being a dual county and fitting it all in but one league game scheduled in August is a bit of a joke??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 30, 2012, 11:42:47 AM
NAG 1....any victory in hurling achieved in the South matters,God knows we get plenty of hammerings.Look at Down minors yesterday.
By the way,why do you not include your team in your summary. Ashamed ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
I was wrong 1st time hardstation but you did post a sarcastic comment in the loughiel posts.

Nag I don't see issue here - if shamrocks want to post about their tournament so be it. Well ignore posts we don't have a focus on - the posts are what they are. Information that's all you can choose to ignore it.

On more relevant note I will head up to corrigan later think johnnies will win.
What about you johnneycool?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
I was wrong 1st time hardstation but you did post a sarcastic comment in the loughiel posts.

Nag I don't see issue here - if shamrocks want to post about their tournament so be it. Well ignore posts we don't have a focus on - the posts are what they are. Information that's all you can choose to ignore it.

On more relevant note I will head up to corrigan later think johnnies will win.
What about you johnneycool?


Nah, won't make it up, but I'd agree with your summation. The johnnies played the better hurling down at our place but hid bad wides. Johnnies are a point up on us at the moment and a win for them would take them 3 clear. It's hard to see where we'd get two wins from to overtake them, but we've the Ports, a possibility, Dunloy, not very likely and allegedly Ballycastle have to come back down to us after losing all their home fixtures because of the Portaferry walk off, anyone else heard that

We've a few injuries in the camp which we can ill afford, plus we've we've been hanging on for a few years now and we need to blood some youngsters to rebuild and Div2 is probably a better place to do that in all fairness.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2012, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
I was wrong 1st time hardstation but you did post a sarcastic comment in the loughiel posts.

Nag I don't see issue here - if shamrocks want to post about their tournament so be it. Well ignore posts we don't have a focus on - the posts are what they are. Information that's all you can choose to ignore it.

On more relevant note I will head up to corrigan later think johnnies will win.
What about you johnneycool?

I wasnt taking any issue with LG's road trip was more your accusation of antipathy of other posters towards it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
Fair enough NAG & HS but that's what it sounds like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 30, 2012, 09:27:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
Whatever you reckon yourself.

Bad result for St. Galls, beaten by Gort.

Any word on the Johnnies?

Johnnies won 2-20 to 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 30, 2012, 09:31:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
Whatever you reckon yourself.

Bad result for St. Galls, beaten by Gort.

Any word on the Johnnies?

Great result for gorts. They seem like a different team than the gort side that started the league. What has beeen then change in them?

Well done to Johnnies. Division 1 vital for Antrim teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on July 30, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
Just seeing the Johnnies won handy.

Ballygalget for the drop then. When was the last time they (or any Ards team) were Div 2?

Ballycran not there about 3 years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 30, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
Whatever you reckon yourself.

Bad result for St. Galls, beaten by Gort.

Any word on the Johnnies?
Galls erstwhile manager was doing something right then. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2012, 11:24:41 PM
I was up at corrigan - result never in doubt. St johns boys seemed happy enough that should keep them up.
Ballycran were in div2 a few years back alright. Lost one game to Rossa (who beat them in ulster league final also) but went straight back to div1. Which raises another question - since the re-structure have the team relegated from div1 went straight back up every year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2012, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on July 30, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
Just seeing the Johnnies won handy.

Ballygalget for the drop then. When was the last time they (or any Ards team) were Div 2?

Ballycran not there about 3 years ago?
relegated the year they won the championship if i remember right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2012, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2012, 07:58:03 AM
Poor wee Liam and sure he never pulls a dirty stroke himself.
ahh poor wee Liam can look after himself ;) you worry about your own boys JJ. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 31, 2012, 08:49:47 AM
SG I was saying that out of genuine concern for the fella, sure he is a great lad, sets a fine example and is an all round genuine guy we should all be proud off. :P I'd say its yourselves that are doing the worrying, It'd be a terrible thing if the All Ireland champions couldn't even retain their county championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 31, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2012, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on July 30, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
Just seeing the Johnnies won handy.

Ballygalget for the drop then. When was the last time they (or any Ards team) were Div 2?

Ballycran not there about 3 years ago?
relegated the year they won the championship if i remember right.

No, I think they won the Down championship the year they won Div2 in Antrim, not the year they got relegated.

We really require ball winners in our forwards in particular and fancy drills don't create them.

we've two very good hurlers out of U-16 next year and they'll be getting their chance sooner rather than later, as well as a very good, but a bit lazy 15 year old, who surprisingly has been training away with the seniors and holding his own, he's a big lad and that's a bonus. We'll need to work a lot with them to get them through, but you've got to start somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 31, 2012, 09:46:53 AM
Would have thought if Ballygalget go down (still an if) they would have the players to come straight back up, even in a very tight div2.  Ballwinners is the problem but some really accurate forwards coming through and div2 may be the place to bring them through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 30, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 30, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
Whatever you reckon yourself.

Bad result for St. Galls, beaten by Gort.

Any word on the Johnnies?
Galls erstwhile manager was doing something right then. ;)

Wasn't at the game but heard we had a wile amount of boys missing due to injuries and hols. 6 point defeat not bad considering the team we had out.

League was well over before last night. I'd say on current form Cushendall won't have any problems in giving us a serious hidding, I'd prefer to give them a decent showing as they will learn nothing about themselves after our game.

With a month to go before the Championship I hope we pull the finger out and put in a worthwile effort, here's hoping
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
MR2 if I have said it once I have said it a million times - dual clubs!

Looks like football has taken over which is understandable but yes hopefully a big push for one off championship game. I think dall would want a strong game off galls to help them know where they are.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 31, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
New management team are very confident of pushing Dall all the way but I dont know where this confidence comes from considering they havent trained in weeks. Maybe he has a few tricks up his sleeve we dont know about. He is certainly talking the talk at the minute anyway....i hope he is right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2012, 02:12:50 PM
Who is taking st galls lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 31, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
Kevin Sheehan, John Hopkins and Martin Mc Keown is the new team...Kevin would tell you he was a great player but plagued by knee and weight problems...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on July 31, 2012, 02:52:34 PM
Quote
Rossa will be blown away by the Shams.

We played their seconds tonight at Casement they won handy, though in fairness we had a man sent off after 13 minutes, level halftime but wiped out in second half. Managed a few points myself in game but disappointed that "maybe" my last final ended in defeat :-\.

Ended up at this game by chance MR2 - wasnt too bad to watch although a bit fiddly and scrappy in parts. Where you playing top of the left?

St Galls have a couple of handy players but some in defence rushed clearances I thought and the sending off totally changed the game and left yous up against it. I though it was justified though.

Rossa looked happy with themselves with the result and I noticed a young fella was captain. They had some good young players as forwards and a couple of oul boys at the back who I think did ok but werent really tested too much.

Young Orchid or Orchin with the white helmet is excellent. One to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2012, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: samboswig on July 31, 2012, 02:52:34 PM
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Rossa will be blown away by the Shams.

We played their seconds tonight at Casement they won handy, though in fairness we had a man sent off after 13 minutes, level halftime but wiped out in second half. Managed a few points myself in game but disappointed that "maybe" my last final ended in defeat :-\.

Ended up at this game by chance MR2 - wasnt too bad to watch although a bit fiddly and scrappy in parts. Where you playing top of the left?

St Galls have a couple of handy players but some in defence rushed clearances I thought and the sending off totally changed the game and left yous up against it. I though it was justified though.

Rossa looked happy with themselves with the result and I noticed a young fella was captain. They had some good young players as forwards and a couple of oul boys at the back who I think did ok but werent really tested too much.

Young Orchid or Orchin with the white helmet is excellent. One to watch.

Was indeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 31, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2012, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2012, 07:58:03 AM
Poor wee Liam and sure he never pulls a dirty stroke himself.
ahh poor wee Liam can look after himself ;) you worry about your own boys JJ.

talking to a LG man said it was a real dirty blow, coolderry took brady of because of it,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on July 31, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
Watson will always be a target,usually for players that can't lace his shoes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 31, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Again.......... poor wee Liam. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 31, 2012, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2012, 08:49:47 AM
SG I was saying that out of genuine concern for the fella, sure he is a great lad, sets a fine example and is an all round genuine guy we should all be proud off. :P I'd say its yourselves that are doing the worrying, It'd be a terrible thing if the All Ireland champions couldn't even retain their county championship.
id say if it happens it will hardly be a 1st.       'IF'  ;)    hows the sledges and baiting at tyres going for use??   gonna try baiting poor Liam with a sledge this year ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on July 31, 2012, 11:05:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 31, 2012, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2012, 08:49:47 AM
SG I was saying that out of genuine concern for the fella, sure he is a great lad, sets a fine example and is an all round genuine guy we should all be proud off. :P I'd say its yourselves that are doing the worrying, It'd be a terrible thing if the All Ireland champions couldn't even retain their county championship.
id say if it happens it will hardly be a 1st.       'IF'  ;)    hows the sledges and baiting at tyres going for use??   gonna try baiting poor Liam with a sledge this year ;D ;D ;D ;D

We've never needed to sledge him. Graffin takes care of him every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 01, 2012, 07:50:02 AM
Exactly Colonel. If we do happen to qualify for the final and Loughgiel come through the other side then Eddie Mc Closkey would be the danger man for me. For all their success last year there was only a puc of the ball between us in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 10:44:29 AM
I'd think cushendall should be favourites going on results over the summer, what with being undefeated. We'd be second. Will be tight, that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 10:57:12 AM
But this is all shite talk at the minute!!!!

There could be a surprise this year, won't be from us but I'd imagine there will be some sort of shock this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 11:14:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 10:57:12 AM
But this is all shite talk at the minute!!!!

There could be a surprise this year, won't be from us but I'd imagine there will be some sort of shock this year.
let's hope it comes on your side of the draw, eh mr2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 01, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 10:44:29 AM
I'd think cushendall should be favourites going on results over the summer, what with being undefeated. We'd be second. Will be tight, that's for sure.

The All-Ireland Champions, who are the only team to beat us this year won't be favourites? good effort SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 01, 2012, 11:23:22 AM
The All Ireland Champions will be favorites for every game they play.......... until they get beat :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Going on that reckoning Dunloy should be favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 01, 2012, 01:14:57 PM
Maybe a shock in a one off tie MR2 as outside the big 2 then dunloy I don't see much between the rest of the teams.
But overall no chance of anything other than a loughiel v cushendall final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 01, 2012, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 01, 2012, 01:14:57 PM
Maybe a shock in a one off tie MR2 as outside the big 2 then dunloy I don't see much between the rest of the teams.
But overall no chance of anything other than a loughiel v cushendall final.

How many times have you seen either LG Cdall or Dunloy play this year to be so sure what the outcome is going to be?
Just spouting out statements there with no reasoning behind any of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 01, 2012, 02:45:30 PM
I've seen each of them play just once admittadly - but it's just an opinion and I really don't think it's insightful either - that's what the bookies would believe too.
So what's your beef?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 01, 2012, 04:13:26 PM
Just as I thought, just that your coming across like you know each of the teams inside out and have seen them play just the once. I would say if you found an honest hurling man from each club he would say that all 3 more than capable of beating any of the others on their day.

No beef just an observation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Would Loughgiel have played that tournament in Birr over the weekend had they have been pitched against Cushendall in the preliminary round to be played on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Would Loughgiel have played that tournament in Birr over the weekend had they have been pitched against Cushendall in the preliminary round to be played on Sunday?
Yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 01, 2012, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Would Loughgiel have played that tournament in Birr over the weekend had they have been pitched against Cushendall in the preliminary round to be played on Sunday?
Yes.

in my humble opinion i don't believe they would have.  the shamrocks are pretty confident of disposing of the rossa, oisins and it will be a nice introduction to the championship for them.  see they have more or less a home draw in armoy for the next round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Would Loughgiel have played that tournament in Birr over the weekend had they have been pitched against Cushendall in the preliminary round to be played on Sunday?
Yes.

Well that may be the case, considering Birr and the rest are playing this weekend. Will the reserves get a run out against Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 07:16:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Would Loughgiel have played that tournament in Birr over the weekend had they have been pitched against Cushendall in the preliminary round to be played on Sunday?
Yes.
Well that may be the case, considering Birr and the rest are playing this weekend. Will the reserves get a run out against Rossa?
I'd have thought it would have been the first string with maybe a couple of changes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on August 01, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
Any predictions for intermediate championship this weekend?

Carey v Gorts - not much between the teams in the league so could go either way

Sarsfields v Creggan - would have to fancy Paddies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 02, 2012, 03:38:40 PM
I was very impressed with Gorts against us on Monday and would fancy them against what I see as a poor enough carey side apart from 3/4 decent players.

I would even say Gorts have a great chance to win the intermediate, looked very fit and sharp against us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 02, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
I would be thinking sarsfields for the intermediate.

HS - absentees for holidays & injuries doesn't look good for ur lads on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
Ah, we'll have 15 anyway. One man's loss.....
:D :D  ahh will you stop lad,  your starting to sound like mr2 last year,  rossa in the city will be no push over.  only couple points in it last year,  that alone should have use buzzing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
Been there done that got the t-shirt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:28:24 PM
you would be shocked if use lost ....... id be small bit more shocked if we did :)     can see the vultures gathering already  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2012, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2012, 09:26:20 PM
Ah, we'll have 15 anyway. One man's loss.....
:D :D  ahh will you stop lad,  your starting to sound like mr2 last year,  rossa in the city will be no push over.  only couple points in it last year,  that alone should have use buzzing

If Loughgiel don't win by 15 I'd be pretty surprised, the gulf between the 2 teams is bigger than ya think. We caught Dunloy by surprise last year and did really well in the replay and played a team without their main man.

Loughfgiel could rest at least 5 starters for the game. Will be heading up to watch it for sure though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:36:53 PM
id be really shocked if we dont win mr2 but f**k me,  15,   are you on drugs lad,   sure give me rossa +10 for a friendly bet then ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2012, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:36:53 PM
id be really shocked if we dont win mr2 but f**k me,  15,   are you on drugs lad,   sure give me rossa +10 for a friendly bet then ;D

Honestly?? Be well surprised, be tight for 20 minutes but after that Loughgiel will tack on 16/17 points plus a couple of goals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 02, 2012, 11:50:35 PM
I didnt realise that acronym was difficult HS!
I am not always negative about Rossa am I? I remem posting about your recent good run and congratulating Shannon & Hamill did I not?

In truth tho - with Rossa are not the team they were going into this fixture last year (injuries and holidays) whilst the shamrocks have without doubt moved to a new level. Sorry if that sounds negative HS but I think it will be reflected on Sunday.

I am not anti-Rossa (have relative currently playing underage) but they frustrate me not being at the level of say 2004 and before. The conveyor belt seems to be stopping early no? Successful underage players recently are not proving successful seniors?
Let's hope I am proved wrong.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
i see it being tight, id take it your way mr2, but wel see!!   what way do we see the other games going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
Where is the game and what time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2012, 08:52:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 03, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
Where is the game and what time?

Casement 3.00pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
It is probably in and around the margin of 10 players that Rossa will be missing from their panel this weekend through different reasons I am told. However, apparently they are training away and most of these should all be available for the upcoming Glenariffe games. I hope this is true as Belfast hurling needs another team in the top flight, after it looking likely that St Johns have secured their spot, fair play. Also in terms of the development of the Rossa team being in Div 1 is much more important than a championship at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 03, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
It is probably in and around the margin of 10 players that Rossa will be missing from their panel this weekend through different reasons I am told. However, apparently they are training away and most of these should all be available for the upcoming Glenariffe games. I hope this is true as Belfast hurling needs another team in the top flight, after it looking likely that St Johns have secured their spot, fair play. Also in terms of the development of the Rossa team being in Div 1 is much more important than a championship at the minute.

Why does Belfast hurling need another team in Div 1? You hear this sort of thing all the time. As for the development of the team, if they are good enough they will get into Div 1 and stay there, if they arent they wont. I actually dont think Div 1 will do Rossa or Oisins any good next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 03, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Why does Belfast hurling need another team in Div 1? You hear this sort of thing all the time. As for the development of the team, if they are good enough they will get into Div 1 and stay there, if they arent they wont. I actually dont think Div 1 will do Rossa or Oisins any good next year.

Well I feel it would be good for any hurling area, same for North Antrim. It promotes competition and will encourage the rest of the teams to try and get up to their level. In terms of Rossa I believe that it would improve them as it would expose more of their hurlers to Div 1 pace hurling and be good in terms of developing a team that in a few years time is capable of pushing for championships.

I think it is a no brainer really as to why it would be a good idea, and you are either blind or an idiot if you disagree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 03, 2012, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 03, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Why does Belfast hurling need another team in Div 1? You hear this sort of thing all the time. As for the development of the team, if they are good enough they will get into Div 1 and stay there, if they arent they wont. I actually dont think Div 1 will do Rossa or Oisins any good next year.

Well I feel it would be good for any hurling area, same for North Antrim. It promotes competition and will encourage the rest of the teams to try and get up to their level. In terms of Rossa I believe that it would improve them as it would expose more of their hurlers to Div 1 pace hurling and be good in terms of developing a team that in a few years time is capable of pushing for championships.

I think it is a no brainer really as to why it would be a good idea, and you are either blind or an idiot if you disagree.

Do you not think those other Belfast teams would have aspirations of Div 1 hurling, St Galls for example, would do anything differently if Rossa managed it? As for the pace of hurling in Div 1, it wont make the Rossa players better just because they are in Div 1, it isnt some sort of promised land where the players miraculously improve, and it wont develop a team if the players arent good enough. If the players are good enough and have the right attitude, and are coached well at Rossa they will improve, not because they are in Div 1.

In case you are unaware of it, your opinion isnt the only one out there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
Well that's where I believe you are wrong, yes a lot of it would be down to the work their own players and management put in on the training field, however, the experience of playing a faster, better style of hurling will naturally improve the players. The same debate is going on at national level as teams such as Limerick for example are still playing their hurling in Div 1B. There are also a lot of others out there that hold the same views.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 03, 2012, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
Well that's where I believe you are wrong, yes a lot of it would be down to the work their own players and management put in on the training field, however, the experience of playing a faster, better style of hurling will naturally improve the players. The same debate is going on at national level as teams such as Limerick for example are still playing their hurling in Div 1B. There are also a lot of others out there that hold the same views.

Well you are entitled to your opinion but i will leave it at this, how has it served Antrim in the last 20 years when they have went up against vastly superior teams in Div 1 playing a better standard of hurling? If you arent producing the players it doesent matter how high a level you are playing at, you will be exposed. Limerick are a different kettle of fish, they are not a million miles away from the top 3 or 4 and are obviously producing a high calibre of player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:13:58 PM
Fair enough to leave it here but one last point, as has been discussed on here before, there are a number of teams in Div1 that would be of similar standard to those at the top of the Div 2. St Johns, Dunloy, Ballycastle and all of the Down teams, along with Rossa, St Galls and Glenariffe could all take points from each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 03, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
Well that's where I believe you are wrong, yes a lot of it would be down to the work their own players and management put in on the training field, however, the experience of playing a faster, better style of hurling will naturally improve the players. The same debate is going on at national level as teams such as Limerick for example are still playing their hurling in Div 1B. There are also a lot of others out there that hold the same views.

Any sarsfields contributers care to comment on how your last season in Div1 improved youse? Seemed to have the opposite effect. Div1 promotion suits an up and coming ambitious team with a decent juvenile system. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 03, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
Well that's where I believe you are wrong, yes a lot of it would be down to the work their own players and management put in on the training field, however, the experience of playing a faster, better style of hurling will naturally improve the players. The same debate is going on at national level as teams such as Limerick for example are still playing their hurling in Div 1B. There are also a lot of others out there that hold the same views.

Any sarsfields contributers care to comment on how your last season in Div1 improved youse? Seemed to have the opposite effect. Div1 promotion suits an up and coming ambitious team with a decent juvenile system.

Correct, you need the talent coming through, St Johns though seem to be the opposite to this point, plenty talent but it never sees the light of day at Corrigan.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2012, 10:36:02 PM
 Dunloy are above the standard of most teams in Antrim yet. And as they proved only a couple of Weeks ago are quite capable of beating the so called big two on any given day. They'll at least be in the semi final and I wouldn't be surprised if they make the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on August 04, 2012, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 03, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 03, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
Well that's where I believe you are wrong, yes a lot of it would be down to the work their own players and management put in on the training field, however, the experience of playing a faster, better style of hurling will naturally improve the players. The same debate is going on at national level as teams such as Limerick for example are still playing their hurling in Div 1B. There are also a lot of others out there that hold the same views.

Any sarsfields contributers care to comment on how your last season in Div1 improved youse? Seemed to have the opposite effect. Div1 promotion suits an up and coming ambitious team with a decent juvenile system.

Correct, you need the talent coming through, St Johns though seem to be the opposite to this point, plenty talent but it never sees the light of day at Corrigan.



Strange comment seeing as throughout the year st johns have regularly had up to 5 minors starting in the senior team as well as having 4 or 5 more regular starters who are u21. And the majority of the panel would be under the age of 25/26
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
Well thats a first in many years. Cornerback ive played against the Jonnies for about 29 years at all levels/ages, this is probably the first time the younger ones have been given a go. I would know a lot about the set up from the past. Just my observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2012, 05:01:06 PM
I hear Rossa are are all tucked in bed, sleeping with their rifle, oh I mean hurl.

"This is my hurl. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My hurl is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my hurl is useless. Without my hurl, I am useless. I must strike my hurl true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my hurl and myself are defenders of my club, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 04, 2012, 08:25:10 PM
LOL  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 04, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields 1-15 3-11 Ciceam an Creagán - first shock result of the championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 04, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: aontroim on August 04, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields 1-15 3-11 Ciceam an Creagán - first shock result of the championship!
Some result for Creggan.....shock no.1 of the weekend ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2012, 12:58:07 AM
Wow - massively shocked at that sarsfields result fancied them strongly to win that championship.

HS I hope u notice MR2 knocking Rossa when you pulled me up on it!
MR2 you love a wind up as much as full metal jacket!
Think you will get a hiding tomorrow especially given absentees but fully agree league is Rossa priority so hopefully it will work out. Will the absentees be available for the Glenarrife games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 05, 2012, 01:00:53 AM
WIll hurling in Antrim survive if Rossa don't make it to the promised land in Division 1 ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2012, 01:10:47 AM
Don't think anyone outside Rossa will notice - but don't think anyone on the board was suggesting otherwise. Just a conversation like any other. HS you have me all paranoid pro Rossa now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 01:16:28 AM
Good luck to Rossa, and to hardstation. More so to Rossa. May the best team win.

Full team playing, btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 05, 2012, 01:23:58 AM
Loughgiel would have to be pretty disappointed if they are not able to win by at least 10 points against a weakened Rossa side. Heard from a few over that direction though that most of these will all be back for the league games. Hoping for some for of a competitive game to get the championship up and running anyway.

Hard luck to Sars, massive shock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 05, 2012, 07:39:31 AM
There is something wrong, seriously wrong, if a team is treating a Championship game as a warm up to a league game! Loughgiel will probably win but Rossa have a decent recent record against them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 05, 2012, 11:00:27 AM
I doubt that they are using it as a warm up to a league game, and fully expect that they will go out and give it a great shot. It's not as if they planned for players to be missing, just the way it has panned out, and that they should be back for matches next month. League should be their priority and championship in a few years time. When is St Johns v Lamh Dhearg down to be played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 11:45:19 AM
Should the weather keep going like it is it might be a lot closer than 15 points!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
Good to see Davy Fitz doing a lot of training about the bridge bar yesterday.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on August 05, 2012, 01:20:59 PM
So first championship games are over. few shocks with creggan beating sarsfields in intermediate and ballymena taking glenarm to extra time. are glenarm contenders for the championship or was this just a hiccup! Cushendun won as i expected them to do and are now surely favourites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
I think that's fair enough cityslicker.

Not gonna get to the games so updates appreciated SIE & HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
I don't know why but data coverage is crap at gaa grounds. I'll try my best.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2012, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
I don't know why but data coverage is crap at gaa grounds. I'll try my best.  :)

3G at Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 05, 2012, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
I don't know why but data coverage is crap at gaa grounds. I'll try my best.  :)

3G at Casement.
I stand down at the front of the stand. the signal is dodgy at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 03:17:02 PM
Nice touch by the Rossa lads. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
1-2 each after 13 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
Shamrocks up by 5. 5 mins or so to half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
Loughgiel 2-7 Rossa 1-7 HT

Rossa sticking with them well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
We'll up it a gear 2ND half. Fancy us by 8 or 9 at the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
2-11 - 1-09. 43 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 04:12:06 PM
Up by 7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
Make that up by 12 in a blink of an eye.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 04:16:39 PM
4-13 - 1-11. 10 mins or so left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
5-17 -1-11. Brilliant second half performance. Well chuffed. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 05, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
i am myself :)  good to get that one out of the way.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game

He was terrible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 05, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game

He was terrible.

I don't get it, maybe our friends from Loughgiel can enlighten us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 05, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game
wee dig at me?? :)    after past 10/12 years am always expecting the worst.   maybe the lads have turned the corner!!  thank god!!!    in fairness to dim dim. he is always at training and puts in great effort. so why doesnt he deserve game time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 05, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game
wee dig at me?? :)    after past 10/12 years am always expecting the worst.   maybe the lads have turned the corner!!  thank god!!!    in fairness to dim dim. he is always at training and puts in great effort. so why doesnt he deserve game time.

I know that, we've loads a lads who way into training for our seniors but they never start!!

Loughgiel have way too much space in midfield, they are a serious fit team. I'd say they are as fit as our senior football team.

No danger in getting to another final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
No shame.

Disappointing scoreline but a fair reflection on where the two teams are. Will give more later but have to say, Kettle hurled his ballix off for us.
Well done Loch gCaol by the way. Upped it and we couldn't cope.

He did, plucked some ball from the sky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 05, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
didn't bother goin as i knew the result would have been around that, hear the game was a non event.  Surprised with the half time score, saw rossa a few times in league this year, reckon they will give glenariffe a good run.  Shamrocks will get it a little tighter against their north antrim neighbours.  suppose that game would be glenaravel or cushendall area ???? might try to make it.  hopefully be something else along with it and it could be a damp squib.  hear sars beat in championship, a bit surprising
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 05, 2012, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 05, 2012, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
Great wee first half, dreadfull second half, I said 15 points I was wrong. Loughgiel always looked as if they could score a goal with every attack. Armstrong was brilliant for Rossa in the first half died a bit in the second half but you need more than one forward to win a match.

All the usual suspects for Loughgiel played well, Does Dim Dim have something on PJ :o? always gets a game
wee dig at me?? :)    after past 10/12 years am always expecting the worst.   maybe the lads have turned the corner!!  thank god!!!    in fairness to dim dim. he is always at training and puts in great effort. so why doesnt he deserve game time.

No he doesn't and no he doesn't!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 06, 2012, 09:15:01 AM
Don't see the need to single out a player for abuse for getting game time! Hardly his fault!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 06, 2012, 09:16:38 AM
Ok lads let me first of all say I was not at the loughiel rossa game so cannot cast any personal judgement!

Was Talkin to a few neutrals and basically their slant was that Rossa gave a huge effort first half and deserve huge credit - but 2nd half loughiel simply moved up a gear which Rossa couldn't match and were able to be show boating at the end. Is that a fair summary SIE / HS?

On the whole that would be what many of us on the site predicted.

The Rossa boys are somewhat upbeat HS (hindsight shows it was clever to focus on Glenarrife now) and team spirit is never something Rossa lads have a problem with! Are your Yankee boys back soon? Bad news on Hamill injury he's given some service wouldn't wish that on anyone and a blow for your team. I think Rossa can beat the oisins in Belfast - but I think home advantage will be enough to push them over the line in waterfoot - minder?

As for loughiel doesn't sound like we can read much into yesterday - shamrocks wont be tested until the final. Anyone any thoughts on the dall / dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 06, 2012, 09:15:01 AM
Don't see the need to single out a player for abuse for getting game time! Hardly his fault!

No abuse from me, just wondering how he gets on such a good team, Loughgiel would have better players than him on the sideline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
Does this back up my statement a while back, that a competitive Div 2 doesnt necessarily mean a better Div 2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 06, 2012, 10:11:38 AM
I see your point NAG.

I watch more div2 than div1 because of the Belfast slant and it's a great league.

However the standard is way off that of the shamrocks cushendall & dunloy.
No debate - that's fact.

But the point I think that some posters make is that outside of those three teams the rest are similar in standard to the top div2 teams. There's basically a big group of teams at a similar standard regardless of leagues & positions.

Mind you - I am not sure what relevance that is either! The leagues are what they are!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
Does this back up my statement a while back, that a competitive Div 2 doesnt necessarily mean a better Div 2?

If Loughgiel hammer Dunloy by 15 points, will that make div 1 more competitive? Don't see your point NAG1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2012, 10:58:38 AM
The reality is though - teams are in division 2 for a reason. Of course the standard won't be as good - that's why it's division 2.

Loughgiel are all ireland champions so are quite clearly a very good team. Rossa don't qualify as being the best x(5 is it?) teams in antrim so are obviously off that pace. I wouldn't be sure playing a lower standard of hurling would have that big a bearing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 06, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
think Dim Dim does get quite well looked after from PJ but you have to consider the following:

he puts in a massive effort and has by the look of him got himself into good shape
has potential though hard to get it out of him, when he gets going he can be a handful and move and break alot of ball
he brings a physical presence that the shamrock forward unit needs with some of their nippy men ie Casey and mcGarry in the corner.
In saying that he needs to start delivering but i suppose PJ left him as long as he could to try and build that confidence.  Dim Dim got fair abuse form Bell who was lucky to stay on at times with some of the high pulls, and shams full back i hear was pretty rusty

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
MR2 my point was that we had a debate a while back and everyone was saying what a great league it was and I said just because it was competitive didnt make it a good league. That was it. Also there was follow up debate questioning the value of have the 3 down teams in the league at the expense of some Antrim teams and I argued that until the Div 2 teams were up to the standard of the Down teams then there was no argument about their inclusion.

Going by the results of the big three this year and the scoring in their games there hasnt been much in it, granted LG will kick on now that they are back into full swing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 06, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
Well, that's us over the first hurdle with relative ease. Not much of a test really once we got going.  I certainly thought Rossa hurled well in patches but no major threat to our lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
MR2 my point was that we had a debate a while back and everyone was saying what a great league it was and I said just because it was competitive didnt make it a good league. That was it. Also there was follow up debate questioning the value of have the 3 down teams in the league at the expense of some Antrim teams and I argued that until the Div 2 teams were up to the standard of the Down teams then there was no argument about their inclusion.

Going by the results of the big three this year and the scoring in their games there hasnt been much in it, granted LG will kick on now that they are back into full swing.

Check the Down teams results this year, they have not been great, Ballygalget are on -69 Points score difference Ballycran on -35 Not great, so to finish up, a while back the Down teams did fair well in the league they haven't been great of late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
No arguments on that one MR2, but Im talking over a period of time when it was being argued that they were detrimental to the Antrim teams. My point being that unless the Antrim teams can get to their level and passed it then they deserve to be where they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
No arguments on that one MR2, but Im talking over a period of time when it was being argued that they were detrimental to the Antrim teams. My point being that unless the Antrim teams can get to their level and passed it then they deserve to be where they are.

I believe If we played in div 1 now we wouldn't be bottom, attitudes for training differ when teams are in Div 1, whilst being a dual club it would be just as important to train hard for hurling as football, this is due to the fact that players would be raising their game against better opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
Do you think the down teams should be in division 1 MR??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
No arguments on that one MR2, but Im talking over a period of time when it was being argued that they were detrimental to the Antrim teams. My point being that unless the Antrim teams can get to their level and passed it then they deserve to be where they are.

I believe If we played in div 1 now we wouldn't be bottom, attitudes for training differ when teams are in Div 1, whilst being a dual club it would be just as important to train hard for hurling as football, this is due to the fact that players would be raising their game against better opposition.

But what would happen then, when it came to holiday season and then after that when the football started to get up and running properly? would you still be competitive and able to run both teams as a Div one team should be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2012, 12:13:56 PM
Do you think the down teams should be in division 1 MR??

Yes I've no problem with the Down teams. We've never beaten Portaferry and only once were we close to them, the other teams? we've been very competitive with.

Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
No arguments on that one MR2, but Im talking over a period of time when it was being argued that they were detrimental to the Antrim teams. My point being that unless the Antrim teams can get to their level and passed it then they deserve to be where they are.

I believe If we played in div 1 now we wouldn't be bottom, attitudes for training differ when teams are in Div 1, whilst being a dual club it would be just as important to train hard for hurling as football, this is due to the fact that players would be raising their game against better opposition.

But what would happen then, when it came to holiday season and then after that when the football started to get up and running properly? would you still be competitive and able to run both teams as a Div one team should be?


All clubs have players away on hols or main players out with injuries, we've struggled this year with our two main scoring players out with injury. That's the form for every club. It's about maximizing your team when playing teams of similar standard and gaining points off them, the better teams you need your full team no doubt.

We won't be winning football championships for ever......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 06, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
No shame.

Disappointing scoreline but a fair reflection on where the two teams are. Will give more later but have to say, Kettle hurled his ballix off for us.

Well done Loch gCaol by the way. Upped it and we couldn't cope.

Seen these on the Rossa twitter feed of Kettle - some boyo still

http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbrm/7718328676/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbrm/7718324750/in/photostream/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbrm/7718365496/in/set-72157630915788110/

Johnny McGuinness

http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbrm/7718337080/in/set-72157630915788110

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 06, 2012, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 06, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
No arguments on that one MR2, but Im talking over a period of time when it was being argued that they were detrimental to the Antrim teams. My point being that unless the Antrim teams can get to their level and passed it then they deserve to be where they are.

I believe If we played in div 1 now we wouldn't be bottom, attitudes for training differ when teams are in Div 1, whilst being a dual club it would be just as important to train hard for hurling as football, this is due to the fact that players would be raising their game against better opposition.
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If St Galls where a single code hurling club with the player talent they have at the minute they would have as much chance as LG of a senior title. its been said on here before that the dual thing is more detrimental now than ever and i agree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2012, 03:02:11 PM
NAH there's nothing to back-up what you say there at all in my view. Yes St Galls have done well in the hurling in that they got a good run last year and got to the AI intermediate the other year but a lot of what they have is just potential. They have the potential to do really well but so do rossa and so do st johns and the like. If they hadn't the football they would be unlikely to be just as fit and play at the intensity that nearly got them to a final last year.

Someone said St Johns had won 2 minor titles which wans't that many but st galls haven't won any to the best of my knowledge?

I don't want to knock them but there are a lot of what ifs about them. What if they were in division 1, what if they were a one code clud etc etc . Doesn't really matter though does it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2012, 03:02:11 PM
NAH there's nothing to back-up what you say there at all in my view. Yes St Galls have done well in the hurling in that they got a good run last year and got to the AI intermediate the other year but a lot of what they have is just potential. They have the potential to do really well but so do rossa and so do st johns and the like. If they hadn't the football they would be unlikely to be just as fit and play at the intensity that nearly got them to a final last year.

Someone said St Johns had won 2 minor titles which wans't that many but st galls haven't won any to the best of my knowledge?

I don't want to knock them but there are a lot of what ifs about them. What if they were in division 1, what if they were a one code clud etc etc . Doesn't really matter though does it.

We can debate this all day, a lot of chat on these things is what if, over the past 8 years we have managed two semi finals, beat by Loughgiel by 3 points one year and Cushendall by a point last year, means nowt really. Rossa have won a championship a few years ago and they always have potential to gather a team up to win Championship some year.

St Johns, well they have plenty talent at juvenile level but very rarely makes it to senior. Football believe it or not still the dominate force at Corrigan as it is at our club. Rossa have a great record at football but would be the opposite to us and the Johnnies.

If our club/players had have said after the All Ireland success that we will concentrate on hurling for a while then it could have paid dividends, but that's unfair on a lot of players, the pain of a dual club. If we played one code (hurling) then I really believe we would be consistently challenging for honours. No guarantee that we'd win but challenging all the same.

Karl Stewarts team won Minor championship, hurling and fooking football one year :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2012, 05:19:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2012, 03:25:06 PM
If we played one code (hurling) then I really believe we would be consistently challenging for honours. No guarantee that we'd win but challenging all the same.

I think we're all in agreement about that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but IMO......
Div 1 hurling doesn't suit st galls as their player availability/commitment due to dual commitments weighting in the main toward football means the team selections are all over the place. Not good for anyone. Enjoy your hurling in division 2 and look for a scalp in the championship. Remains to be seen what youse can bring to the championship this year but I dont think anyone will be taking youse for granted thats for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 06, 2012, 09:47:01 PM
In my humble opinion, Lamh Dhearg, St. Galls, Sarsfields, St. Johns would never commit their key players to the wee ball code.  In all honesty, Rossa I believe are the premiere Belfast hurling club and the only club likely to commit their main resources to hurling.  Antrim and Ulster have a lot to answer for in this regard.  As long as hurling plays second fiddle to football in Antrim and Ulster, I cannot see much improvement in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 06, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
St. Johns would never commit their key players to the wee ball code.  On what evidence do you base this statement Winker? 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 07, 2012, 12:33:18 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 06, 2012, 09:47:01 PM
In my humble opinion, Lamh Dhearg, St. Galls, Sarsfields, St. Johns would never commit their key players to the wee ball code.  In all honesty, Rossa I believe are the premiere Belfast hurling club and the only club likely to commit their main resources to hurling.  Antrim and Ulster have a lot to answer for in this regard.  As long as hurling plays second fiddle to football in Antrim and Ulster, I cannot see much improvement in the city.

that's a given winker, we all know of some the minor teams that came out of Belfast over the years and if those teams would have stayed together without the distractions we don't have to contend with further north I feel there would be less Senior titles up our way. I have noticed on here recently that when it comes to antrim top teams some posters are are now talking about the big two now(Dall and LG) instead of the big three(perceived demise of my club dunloy) I find it kind of sad that an area with probably the best resources in ireland barr Dublin cant be taking at least there share of Senior titles. imagine everyone on here talking about the big six or big eight. I bet we would be going places then at county level. I mentoned Galls earlier not because they beat us last year but they nearly took the Dall out as well. to come out of ulster in football and win an all Ireland is some going but they can hurl to and like to see them hurling with no distractions. Karl stewart and MC gourtys hurling credentials need no introduction but last year i was really impressed with Gallagher and Burke looked like a natural FB. Cj was good minor but not committed. As for the other clubs I don't know St Johns minor teams of this last three years don't seem to be cutting it at U21, seems history is repeating itself again. This Post might provoke the reaction ''that's the way it is and always will be'' but surely its time for some radical new approach, maybe a hurling first football second club. this might open up a can of worms with defections etc but a lot of that happens anyway(correct me if I'm wrong)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 07, 2012, 07:59:48 AM
Lets face it lads, too few people really give a sh!te about it in our urban areas. GAA clubs are treated for the most part by parents and kids as an alternative leisure centre not the heart of the community as they used to be. The odd example of precocious talent pops up now and then but we struggle to produce the steady 5-8s that every club needs. You might get through juvenile levels with some success bringing in kids from all round the place but long term its just not sustainable because they just don't have a that ingrained love for the game and their club anymore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 06, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
St. Johns would never commit their key players to the wee ball code.  On what evidence do you base this statement Winker? 8)
Well, their historical success at senior level has primarily been in football.  They never really made the grade at senior level in hurling.  Always up there I suppose, but not too much silverware.  On the other hand, football! The only medals in recent times were probably at the Novena  ;)er.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:36 AM
theres committing and theres committing HS.

LM's point about a sizeable number of juvenile players and parents never developing a real passion and love of the game and the club they represent is surely a very real problem in the city especially (but we're not insulated from that issue in the sticks either). Too much choice has created more fly by nights who pick up and drop interests on a whim.  Some serious thought needs to be given as to how we get more kids from 15+ staying committed and aspiring to be an adult hurler with their club down the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 10:38:21 AM
OK maybe it is.

My point about how different clubs/players perceive their commitment to the game is a vital factor as well. The drinking culture here almost makes hurling an annoyance for those whod rather party all weekend.

All the good work in training developing fitness stickwork and a team bond can be ruined by a few heading on the lash at every opportunity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 11:19:37 AM
As far as I know St Johns have 7 senior hurling titles an Rossa have 12. Up to a few years ago some of the " big guns" in North Antrim hadn't acquired this number of titles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 11:19:37 AM
As far as I know St Johns have 7 senior hurling titles an Rossa have 12. Up to a few years ago some of the " big guns" in North Antrim hadn't acquired this number of titles.

Relevant as ever buskwhacker. Another insight into the way you tick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
Yeah too many kids don't buy into the club and don't dream of playing in Casement never mind stepping onto Croke Park to play a major match. The drinking culture was there in my day also but it never made me miss a match nor training, arrangements for holidays were usually over the weeks when games weren't played (the height of summer in Antrim).

I hate nothing more than lads who train hard all winter and when important league matches/Championship games feck off to a concert or stag weekend. What's the fooking point of the preseason training?

So how do you keep lads together and involved in the club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 12:15:24 PM
I'm talking about "historical success" skull, just a wee aside to lighten the tone of this discussion. It may not be relevant(as ever ) but at at least it's not as boring as you're ill-informed pontificating.With guys like you on board you're club must be up there.......but then you don't identify you're club in you're summary. Handy when sniping at me...I know the way you "tick".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2012, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 12:15:24 PM
I'm talking about "historical success" skull, just a wee aside to lighten the tone of this discussion. It may not be relevant(as ever ) but at at least it's not as boring as you're ill-informed pontificating.With guys like you on board you're club must be up there.......but then you don't identify you're club in you're summary. Handy when sniping at me...I know the way you "tick".

"Be nice to people on your way up, because you might meet them on your way down."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 12:15:24 PM
I'm talking about "historical success" skull, just a wee aside to lighten the tone of this discussion. It may not be relevant(as ever ) but at at least it's not as boring as you're ill-informed pontificating.With guys like you on board you're club must be up there.......but then you don't identify you're club in you're summary. Handy when sniping at me...I know the way you "tick".

Hard to believe you haven't worked that one out.

A pointless jibe is what it was (not that I give a toss you must understand). The very fact that it came into your mind to make this totally irrelevant comment is indeed laughable so in one way you have lightened the tone. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 02:09:44 PM
The point  I am making really, is that the boys in the big smoke would rather hog the limelight in the football code.  I would be of the opinion that majority of gaels in Belfast would rather aspire to what Galls have achieved over the years. In Antrim and Ulster there is no doubt that young aspiring gaels in Belfast/South West, would more often than not, wish to reach their greater potential in the big ball code.  That's not necessarily the clubs or parents fault.  It is just the way things have developed in Ulster.  Hurling, regrettably will continue to be the poor cousin in the city.  It really pains me to say that though  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
I wouldn't agree with you entirely there.

Rossa don't give preference to football over hurling and of late I don't think St Johns have either which leads to the question of which clubs do in Belfast? Lamh Dhearg, St Pauls and St Galls maybe.

Sarsfields seem about on a par.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 07, 2012, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 07, 2012, 10:01:13 AM
That's not his point at all, skull. What he is implying is that St. John's try to commit their 'key players' to football rather than hurling, which I think is a lazy statement.
No it isn't what I am implying !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Traditionally you are right. St Johns have potential to get to a football final most years depending on the draw.

Rossa will always have hurling over football, which pains the footballers within the club

Lamhs are a football club and bar the Herron's would be div 3 hurling

St Paul's always will be a footballing club, they had a wee drive back in the late 80's but could maintain this

Gorts were always a hurling club but had a bit of success in football which hampered their efforts in hurling

Sarsfields would traditionally have been a hurling club but decent football club back in the early 80's. They have a lot of hurling men in there at the minute so I believe that will be their direction for next few years.

The other clubs unfortunately would have the sustainability to feature at any serious level in hurling, I believe these clubs should form a hurling club and dedicate to it, very difficult to leave your club but I believe it would work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 07, 2012, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Traditionally you are right. St Johns have potential to get to a football final most years depending on the draw.

Rossa will always have hurling over football, which pains the footballers within the club

Lamhs are a football club and bar the Herron's would be div 3 hurling

St Paul's always will be a footballing club, they had a wee drive back in the late 80's but could maintain this

Gorts were always a hurling club but had a bit of success in football which hampered their efforts in hurling

Sarsfields would traditionally have been a hurling club but decent football club back in the early 80's. They have a lot of hurling men in there at the minute so I believe that will be their direction for next few years.

The other clubs unfortunately would have the sustainability to feature at any serious level in hurling, I believe these clubs should form a hurling club and dedicate to it, very difficult to leave your club but I believe it would work.
I'm inclined to agree MR but maybe thats from dealing with so many juveniles recently who don't give a fcuk. Maybe there is an argument for less opportunity?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 03:29:10 PM
Skull...........gobbledaygook......."not that I give a toss" whatever that means. You would probably know .Is it anything to do with being a "tosser" ?
Again I bow to you're greater experience in this respect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 07, 2012, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 07, 2012, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 07, 2012, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 07, 2012, 10:01:13 AM
That's not his point at all, skull. What he is implying is that St. John's try to commit their 'key players' to football rather than hurling, which I think is a lazy statement.
No it isn't what I am implying !!!
Well unless you are the same person as winker3716, I was not talking about you.
Fair enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2012, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on August 07, 2012, 03:29:10 PM
Skull...........gobbledaygook......."not that I give a toss" whatever that means. You would probably know .Is it anything to do with being a "t**ser" ?
Again I bow to you're greater experience in this respect.

With being a tosser?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I really do think we are reaching a stage in Antrim/Ulster, where hurling is actually dying!  It's time if you ask me for action, maybe a hurling task force made up of all those interested parties within our own county firstly.

Some radical, innovative and positive thinking required by hurling folk to shake the county and Ulster Council Up. Hurling will die, other than in the traditional hurling parishes in Antrim, i.e Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenarriff, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Carey, Armoy.  It's time to shake up the county executive, establish a Hurling Development Board/Sub Committee and encourage those serious about hurling in Belfast to sign up also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I really do think we are reaching a stage in Antrim/Ulster, where hurling is actually dying!  It's time if you ask me for action, maybe a hurling task force made up of all those interested parties within our own county firstly.

Some radical, innovative and positive thinking required by hurling folk to shake the county and Ulster Council Up. Hurling will die, other than in the traditional hurling parishes in Antrim, i.e Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenarriff, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Carey, Armoy.  It's time to shake up the county executive, establish a Hurling Development Board/Sub Committee and encourage those serious about hurling in Belfast to sign up also.

If we lived in a county where the numbers of passionate hurling men were high then a hurling task force would work because thered be plenty prepared to do their part in the clubs making any proposals a success. Sadly there aren't enough prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 07, 2012, 04:34:57 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I really do think we are reaching a stage in Antrim/Ulster, where hurling is actually dying!  It's time if you ask me for action, maybe a hurling task force made up of all those interested parties within our own county firstly.

Some radical, innovative and positive thinking required by hurling folk to shake the county and Ulster Council Up. Hurling will die, other than in the traditional hurling parishes in Antrim, i.e Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenarriff, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Carey, Armoy.  It's time to shake up the county executive, establish a Hurling Development Board/Sub Committee and encourage those serious about hurling in Belfast to sign up also.

If we lived in a county where the numbers of passionate hurling men were high then a hurling task force would work because thered be plenty prepared to do their part in the clubs making any proposals a success. Sadly there aren't enough prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel.
If we believe we can't, we won't, if we believe we can, we will!  I'm certainly up for it, but not starting the crusade :-X.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Way to kill a thread Winker.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 11, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Way to kill a thread Winker.  ;D
How come Seamroga?  That's a bit random don't you think?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 11, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Way to kill a thread Winker.  ;D
How come Seamroga?  That's a bit random don't you think?  :o
only having a laugh. There was no post in 4 days after yours. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 12, 2012, 01:24:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 11, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Way to kill a thread Winker.  ;D
How come Seamroga?  That's a bit random don't you think?  :o
only having a laugh. There was no post in 4 days after yours.

i think winker was making a suggestion that we(posters on this board)stop typing gibberish and get off our butts and do something for the benefit of antrim hurling. He offered his services but was looking for someone to initiate a radical new approach  that's when the impending silence endured. hey winker I'm in now what do we do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 12, 2012, 09:02:18 AM
With Ballygalget losing and ballycran winning does that mean Ballygalget are now relegated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 12, 2012, 09:34:51 AM
Quote from: maxpower on August 12, 2012, 09:02:18 AM
With Ballygalget losing and ballycran winning does that mean Ballygalget are now relegated.

No. Ballygalget's got 2 games left. Against Portaferry first and there safe so losing to Ballycran didnt matter and losing to Ballygalget wont matter. There last game is against Ballycastle.

Ballycastle has 3 games. The first ones are the dall and then Dunloy and they wont win them so the last game against Ballygalget will be the relegation decider.

St Johns could get pulled into it. They have 2 games against Ballycran and Dunloy so the Ballycran game could be important there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Looks like the mathematics are there but ballygalget won't be - johnneycool did predict Galget would go down I think.

Any gamblers care to suggest the outcome of the cork Galway game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 12, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
The Towns a shambles. Injuries and susspensions ruined the last 2 months. Big Ronan Donnelly havin to come back and fair play to him too but not where the Town wanted to be.

Galway to take Cork by 3/4 points or Cork to take Galway by 3/4 points   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 11, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2012, 06:03:43 PM
Way to kill a thread Winker.  ;D
How come Seamroga?  That's a bit random don't you think?  :o
only having a laugh. There was no post in 4 days after yours.
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:52:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2012, 01:34:28 AM
Take yer balaclava off and get your club to push you towards the elite county executive. Wrangling your way into the Knights of St. Columbanus will help. You will then be issued with a new balaclava and therefore be free to do whatever the fcuk you like.

It's great.
Extremely cynical Hard Station.  However, did your club like others not vote them in?  Maybe a few KSC's in Rossa also?

Seriously though,  how do we proceed to shake the county up regarding hurling.  Are you content with our (hurling) lot? As I alluded to previously "if we believe we can't, we won't, if we believe we can, we will".  My lifes motto  ;).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 12, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
Does anyone know when the next round of the SHC is on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 12, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
Weekend of 1st/2nd Sept.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 12, 2012, 05:52:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 12, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
Weekend of 1st/2nd Sept.

Thanks. I was hoping maybe the weekend before as I'm home then, not to be!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 13, 2012, 12:19:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Looks like the mathematics are there but ballygalget won't be - johnneycool did predict Galget would go down I think.

Any gamblers care to suggest the outcome of the cork Galway game?

Pretty tame performance from us on saturday evening for what would have been a win at all costs game, defence held on rightly but nothing of substance up front to worry Dunloy defence much.

We might get a win against Portaferry, but if Ballycastle turn up at all we can't compete physically with them and then we're gone.

A year or two in Div2 will be required to blood youngsters as I don't think we'll come straight back up as our size will be our downfall, whereas Glenariffe have a bit of physicality to suppliment their hurling which is always required in Div2 from my one experience of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 13, 2012, 09:03:35 PM
Bloody Hell Seamroga, I thinks ur rite!

Very quiet here, looks like my suggestion has terrified a few of the stalwarts?  I note no suggestions/offers all the same!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2012, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I really do think we are reaching a stage in Antrim/Ulster, where hurling is actually dying!  It's time if you ask me for action, maybe a hurling task force made up of all those interested parties within our own county firstly.

Some radical, innovative and positive thinking required by hurling folk to shake the county and Ulster Council Up. Hurling will die, other than in the traditional hurling parishes in Antrim, i.e Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenarriff, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Carey, Armoy.  It's time to shake up the county executive, establish a Hurling Development Board/Sub Committee and encourage those serious about hurling in Belfast to sign up also.

What are you currently doing at your club? Serious question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 14, 2012, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 13, 2012, 12:19:02 PM

We might get a win against Portaferry, but if Ballycastle turn up at all we can't compete physically with them and then we're gone.


johnney
Portaferry's better than Ballycastle. If they dont just give it up to youse and youse beat them youse will beat the Town. Thought at start of year with new managment and boys comin back like Clark and so on the Town would go well and give Dunloy a rattle in the championship and maybe even beat them but now lookin at Div 2 next year is a bit of a bummer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 14, 2012, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 14, 2012, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 13, 2012, 12:19:02 PM

We might get a win against Portaferry, but if Ballycastle turn up at all we can't compete physically with them and then we're gone.


johnney
Portaferry's better than Ballycastle. If they dont just give it up to youse and youse beat them youse will beat the Town. Thought at start of year with new managment and boys comin back like Clark and so on the Town would go well and give Dunloy a rattle in the championship and maybe even beat them but now lookin at Div 2 next year is a bit of a bummer.

Can't read anything into local derbies though BlackandAmber, its all too common for the home team to take the spoils for some reason, Ballycran beat portaferry on saturday evening whereas 6 weeks ago Portaferry tanked them in Portaferry.

Portaferry beat us by 3 points and we never struck leather in the first half. In the second half we totally dominated them and had enough opportunities to win it. In saying that confidence in our camp has dwindled, but a home game against the neighbours is always a good time to raise the game.
Rumour has it that the prodical son has had enough of the sun on his back in Oz and is due home next week, lord knows what shape he's in, but hurling comes naturally to the big bollix, fitness doesn't though. He'll give us a fighting chance in the championship as Portaferry are shít scared of him and panic when he gets on the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 14, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
Always admired Ballygalget in the Ards, after their performance v Newtown a few years ago when they were incredibly unlucky not to make an All Ireland final. What struck me most about their time was the complete lack of height but the fact that all of them could hurl, with an excellent goalkeeper and free taker up front. Will be sad, as it sad to see all great teams/clubs drop down to Div 2.

The only consolation is that it will be for a Antrim team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 14, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 14, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
Always admired Ballygalget in the Ards, after their performance v Newtown a few years ago when they were incredibly unlucky not to make an All Ireland final. What struck me most about their time was the complete lack of height but the fact that all of them could hurl, with an excellent goalkeeper and free taker up front. Will be sad, as it sad to see all great teams/clubs drop down to Div 2.

The only consolation is that it will be for a Antrim team.

The current team are far smaller than that team, in fact that team was one of the taller teams to come out of the parish in my time.

We are where we are. We've made a balls of a recent generation of juvenile teams by treating them too softly and were ill prepared for the effort required for senior hurling. The latest crop of U-16's are now thrown in with the seniors at training and most are responding well to it and regulars at training. They'll be required for the first team sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 14, 2012, 02:56:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 14, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 14, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
Always admired Ballygalget in the Ards, after their performance v Newtown a few years ago when they were incredibly unlucky not to make an All Ireland final. What struck me most about their time was the complete lack of height but the fact that all of them could hurl, with an excellent goalkeeper and free taker up front. Will be sad, as it sad to see all great teams/clubs drop down to Div 2.

The only consolation is that it will be for a Antrim team.

The current team are far smaller than that team, in fact that team was one of the taller teams to come out of the parish in my time.

We are where we are. We've made a balls of a recent generation of juvenile teams by treating them too softly and were ill prepared for the effort required for senior hurling. The latest crop of U-16's are now thrown in with the seniors at training and most are responding well to it and regulars at training. They'll be required for the first team sooner rather than later.


Sounds like a common problem except in the successful teams - hence a big part of why they are successful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 05:38:56 PM
How do you know thats the case btdtgtt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2012, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 07, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I really do think we are reaching a stage in Antrim/Ulster, where hurling is actually dying!  It's time if you ask me for action, maybe a hurling task force made up of all those interested parties within our own county firstly.

Some radical, innovative and positive thinking required by hurling folk to shake the county and Ulster Council Up. Hurling will die, other than in the traditional hurling parishes in Antrim, i.e Dunloy, Ballycastle, Glenarriff, Cushendall, Loughgiel, Carey, Armoy.  It's time to shake up the county executive, establish a Hurling Development Board/Sub Committee and encourage those serious about hurling in Belfast to sign up also.

What are you currently doing at your club? Serious question
More than my fair share despite my own limitations MR2. An air of hostility in your questioning I think?  You obviously may not agree with my line of thinking MR, but your obviously entitled to your opinion which I respect. Could it be that I am too radical, eager to get involved in much needed change?  Or should I sit back, express no opinion like so many others.  I am attempting to be positive here, despite the high degree of complacency within Antrim hurling circles. And yes, we all have are part to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?

winker you have to square the circle. If there are all these extra passionate hurling men and women about doing nothing, why have they not got off their hole by now? Most clubs including my own are crying out for more help and it's pretty depressing to see what you'd think of as passionate hurling men who've had great mentoring themselves throughout their career give nothing back when they know right well teams/kids (sometimes their own) are suffering due to the lack of willing coaches. I'd love to share your belief but experience has taught me that those people you think exist actually don't although if you chatted to them in the pubs and clubs plenty of them would have you think different. I hope youre right and I'm wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 14, 2012, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 05:38:56 PM
How do you know thats the case btdtgtt?

For example the cases discussed on this forum about several clubs not bringing underage players thru. I think we can all name players who stepped up couldn't handle the physicality and so quit.

But mainly I think hurling has also gone soft. We don't have the physicality of the south (manly not dirt) and too many of our club games are park hurling - reflected in our county side.

I think it's a social thing also - young guys nowadays are used to soccer and sky sports - ther are not accustomed to putting their bodies on the line.

I know this is a bit vague skull but hard to get the point across without mentioning specific players and clubs which I don't think would be right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think the physicality of hurling certainly in the Div1 games I've seen have been teak tough. Tougher hurling than 5/6 years ago. Yes we always seem to lag the progress of southern hurling but doesnt mean that we haven't moved on. Maybe this isn't the case lower down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 15, 2012, 01:25:39 AM
Admittedly I watch more div2 skull but still scene most div1 teams at some stage this year And all the big championship games over the years - the physical side of the game is not what it was in my opinion.
Too often physical body contact is either a foul or absent.

That said - I think the point was more about the you get generation of players coming thru.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 15, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?

winker you have to square the circle. If there are all these extra passionate hurling men and women about doing nothing, why have they not got off their hole by now? Most clubs including my own are crying out for more help and it's pretty depressing to see what you'd think of as passionate hurling men who've had great mentoring themselves throughout their career give nothing back when they know right well teams/kids (sometimes their own) are suffering due to the lack of willing coaches. I'd love to share your belief but experience has taught me that those people you think exist actually don't although if you chatted to them in the pubs and clubs plenty of them would have you think different. I hope youre right and I'm wrong

both of you are right. as skull says if there isn't enough people doing more at club level(I'm from dunloy to and we simply can not get enough help) then its to the detriment of the county, who  said '' evil prevails when good men do nothing''. I like winkers attitude as we cant just shrug our shoulders and do nothing but i get the sense winker you are young, when you have been subjected to the frustrating state of affairs for twenty years plus with no real radical thinking,funding and attitude then the apathy sets in. Did any one read sambo in the antrim post this week U16 development bus going to tipp and two players show up for it. surely  we have to be responsible for ensuring our best young hurlers are making more effort. that would be a start for county improvement. In conclusion more effort at club level with coaching and a unified front and county underage from every club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 15, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 15, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?

winker you have to square the circle. If there are all these extra passionate hurling men and women about doing nothing, why have they not got off their hole by now? Most clubs including my own are crying out for more help and it's pretty depressing to see what you'd think of as passionate hurling men who've had great mentoring themselves throughout their career give nothing back when they know right well teams/kids (sometimes their own) are suffering due to the lack of willing coaches. I'd love to share your belief but experience has taught me that those people you think exist actually don't although if you chatted to them in the pubs and clubs plenty of them would have you think different. I hope youre right and I'm wrong

both of you are right. as skull says if there isn't enough people doing more at club level(I'm from dunloy to and we simply can not get enough help) then its to the detriment of the county, who  said '' evil prevails when good men do nothing''. I like winkers attitude as we cant just shrug our shoulders and do nothing but i get the sense winker you are young, when you have been subjected to the frustrating state of affairs for twenty years plus with no real radical thinking,funding and attitude then the apathy sets in. Did any one read sambo in the antrim post this week U16 development bus going to tipp and two players show up for it. surely  we have to be responsible for ensuring our best young hurlers are making more effort. that would be a start for county improvement. In conclusion more effort at club level with coaching and a unified front and county underage from every club
Sambo, should not have been on the bus, he is not under 16  ;D  Is that the reason only two were on the bus?   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 15, 2012, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 15, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 15, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?

winker you have to square the circle. If there are all these extra passionate hurling men and women about doing nothing, why have they not got off their hole by now? Most clubs including my own are crying out for more help and it's pretty depressing to see what you'd think of as passionate hurling men who've had great mentoring themselves throughout their career give nothing back when they know right well teams/kids (sometimes their own) are suffering due to the lack of willing coaches. I'd love to share your belief but experience has taught me that those people you think exist actually don't although if you chatted to them in the pubs and clubs plenty of them would have you think different. I hope youre right and I'm wrong

both of you are right. as skull says if there isn't enough people doing more at club level(I'm from dunloy to and we simply can not get enough help) then its to the detriment of the county, who  said '' evil prevails when good men do nothing''. I like winkers attitude as we cant just shrug our shoulders and do nothing but i get the sense winker you are young, when you have been subjected to the frustrating state of affairs for twenty years plus with no real radical thinking,funding and attitude then the apathy sets in. Did any one read sambo in the antrim post this week U16 development bus going to tipp and two players show up for it. surely  we have to be responsible for ensuring our best young hurlers are making more effort. that would be a start for county improvement. In conclusion more effort at club level with coaching and a unified front and county underage from every club
Sambo, should not have been on the bus, he is not under 16  ;D  Is that the reason only two were on the bus?   ;D

dont think he was there, he  just writing about it. no need to blame all things on him anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2012, 11:04:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 14, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 12, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
I did not realise my post had made such an impact.  Regardless, a radical and major shake up in Antrim and Ulster is required if we are all serious about the survival of hurling.  I am conscious however, as to how we may proceed about bringing about radical change.  It is all fine and dandy to criticise, but unless we are all prepared to do something about it!  Therein lies the problem.  A clearing of the decks in Antrim is a pre-requisite in my opinion, starting at HQ.  Our clubs are the key to this step at next county convention.  I have a terrible gut feeling though, the 'status quo will remain', more's the pity.  :P

winker ...do you think there exists a massive group of "passionate hurling men" in Antrim sitting at home doing nothing just waiting for someone to the call them to arms? It would appear you do. I don't. The passionate hurling men are doing what they can and the lazy parents, ex players, sky subscribers etc. are taking the GAA for granted. I assume that not much more can be done until more people start playing a part in bringing about sizeable positive change.

Yes I do Skull.  I also respect your view that you don't.  I also could  not agree with you more about more people taking an active part, but the fact remains, who is going to rally them and call them to arms,  the present incumbents in A/Town Road, I don't think so.  Hence my call for those involved, those not involved in hurling who may wish to get involved to mobilise and initiate some significant/radical change in Antrim/Ulster Hurling.  What I am not sure about thopugh, is how we proceed?

winker you have to square the circle. If there are all these extra passionate hurling men and women about doing nothing, why have they not got off their hole by now? Most clubs including my own are crying out for more help and it's pretty depressing to see what you'd think of as passionate hurling men who've had great mentoring themselves throughout their career give nothing back when they know right well teams/kids (sometimes their own) are suffering due to the lack of willing coaches. I'd love to share your belief but experience has taught me that those people you think exist actually don't although if you chatted to them in the pubs and clubs plenty of them would have you think different. I hope youre right and I'm wrong

I think there's something in both your arguments, in our club there'd be lads able to give a bit of time, but not enough to take on a job on their own. If they put their name forward they'd end up doing to whole shebang and hence they don't put their names forward.

In the juvenile ranks I'd be inclined to try and get groups of lads, 4 maybe 5, to take on a team. They'll not need to be at every training session or every game and that takes the pressure off slightly. I'd also try and get at least 2 ex players involved in each team as some of the others are willing and keen but miss the finer details of coaching that ex players who've played at a decent level would pick up on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way

The refereeing was top notch though :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2012, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way
Should be a good game but can only see a Cushendall win. Johnnies men telling me they haven't been prepared right at all. The fallout last year still hasn't fully gone away either. Apparently the difference in attitude of their players is remarkable. To quote, "this time last year we were bouncing whereas this year, many seem disinterested".

They won't be far away, of course, as their players are still good players but still reckon Cushendall will come through this.

Something wrong with St. John's seniors too.

Our boys haven't prepared for anything other than a St John's at the top of their game. They have some great individuals but then again so do we.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way

The refereeing was top notch though :o

The ref was were lucky to come out of Corrigan alive that night, some unhappy men up the Whiterock that night!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 16, 2012, 12:06:42 PM
Now now hardstation you wouldn't be stirring a bit with your old firm rivals would you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
Not at all. Just going on what Johnnies men have told me.

As for their seniors....they were training at Corrigan before the minor football game on Tuesday. About 12 players at the session. Less than 5 of them would start. In August FFS!

They probably have about 7/8 of those minors that played football in their senior hurling squad so that would have made a difference to the numbers I would imagine. Not ideal still
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2012, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way
Should be a good game but can only see a Cushendall win. Johnnies men telling me they haven't been prepared right at all. The fallout last year still hasn't fully gone away either. Apparently the difference in attitude of their players is remarkable. To quote, "this time last year we were bouncing whereas this year, many seem disinterested".

They won't be far away, of course, as their players are still good players but still reckon Cushendall will come through this.

Something wrong with St. John's seniors too.

Our boys haven't prepared for anything other than a St John's at the top of their game. They have some great individuals but then again so do we.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way

The refereeing was top notch though :o

The ref was were lucky to come out of Corrigan alive that night, some unhappy men up the Whiterock that night!

Ya canny please everybody. If St Johns get a handle on young Sambo then they might have a chance. And if the St Johns team play as a 'team' they should win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 16, 2012, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2012, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way
Should be a good game but can only see a Cushendall win. Johnnies men telling me they haven't been prepared right at all. The fallout last year still hasn't fully gone away either. Apparently the difference in attitude of their players is remarkable. To quote, "this time last year we were bouncing whereas this year, many seem disinterested".

They won't be far away, of course, as their players are still good players but still reckon Cushendall will come through this.

Something wrong with St. John's seniors too.

Our boys haven't prepared for anything other than a St John's at the top of their game. They have some great individuals but then again so do we.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 16, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Minor Championship games tomorrow night. Cushendall v St Johns should be a cracker. We beat them by a point or two at Corrigan earlier this year in a game that was spoiled by a big breeze. Could go either way

The refereeing was top notch though :o

The ref was were lucky to come out of Corrigan alive that night, some unhappy men up the Whiterock that night!

Ya canny please everybody. If St Johns get a handle on young Sambo then they might have a chance. And if the St Johns team play as a 'team' they should win
From watching Cushendall minors they have more than just Christy up front. Some very talented hurlers. As no doubt the St Johns have too. Should be a good match. Tough to call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 03:33:32 PM
Im not saying they don't. I was also watching that game. The two jonty lads try to do everything. If they play more for the team they'll do all right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 16, 2012, 06:13:07 PM
Really looking forward to the minor game tomorrow night, should be a cracker. God knows its been a long time since we've had any sort of decent game to watch. 2 evenly matched teams as we've seen over the past couple of years, both full of good hurlers. If your doing nothing tomorrow night it would be worth getting to Cushendall to watch. I have a feeling the rest of this years minor championship won't be up to much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 16, 2012, 06:13:07 PM
Really looking forward to the minor game tomorrow night, should be a cracker. God knows its been a long time since we've had any sort of decent game to watch. 2 evenly matched teams as we've seen over the past couple of years, both full of good hurlers. If your doing nothing tomorrow night it would be worth getting to Cushendall to watch. I have a feeling the rest of this years minor championship won't be up to much.

Having seen all the minor teams this year I'm in agreement with you Jesus. Dunloy, Loughgiel, Rossa, ourselves and St Endas have been of a really poor standard. I'd say tomorrows winners will win final by 10-15 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 16, 2012, 09:13:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 16, 2012, 06:13:07 PM
Really looking forward to the minor game tomorrow night, should be a cracker. God knows its been a long time since we've had any sort of decent game to watch. 2 evenly matched teams as we've seen over the past couple of years, both full of good hurlers. If your doing nothing tomorrow night it would be worth getting to Cushendall to watch. I have a feeling the rest of this years minor championship won't be up to much.

Having seen all the minor teams this year I'm in agreement with you Jesus. Dunloy, Loughgiel, Rossa, ourselves and St Endas have been of a really poor standard. I'd say tomorrows winners will win final by 10-15 points
Looking at our lads a couple of years ago there was loads of potential, on paper we should have been top 2/3 this season but in reality C'dall have shown how it should be done. In comparison 75% of our minors rarely train as a team and by Christ it shows when they play. The Dall to win out at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Cushendall showing some championship form tonight!! 1-14 to 0-9

Two man team??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
MR2 we were missing a few more than 2. This result was always on the cards, it could have happened any time over the last few weeks, the league has become a waste of time with the matches each week being of a really poor quality. Hard to keep players motivated however it is a worrying result coming up to championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 09:51:39 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
MR2 we were missing a few more than 2. This result was always on the cards, it could have happened any time over the last few weeks, the league has become a waste of time with the matches each week being of a really poor quality. Hard to keep players motivated however it is a worrying result coming up to championship.

Well two notable players, which is worrying I'm sure. I'd have thought Cushendall would have had a decent panel, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Cushendall were unbeaten up until last night and nearly won it last year(beaten in last match) so they must have been taking it serious enough??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Cushendall were unbeaten up until last night and nearly won it last year(beaten in last match) so they must have been taking it serious enough??

Which is grand but that excuse is a bit unfair, teams from div 2 would love to be in that league and fight tooth and nail to get in......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:28:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Cushendall were unbeaten up until last night and nearly won it last year(beaten in last match) so they must have been taking it serious enough??

Which is grand but that excuse is a bit unfair, teams from div 2 would love to be in that league and fight tooth and nail to get in......
What teams are they? They couldn't have fought too much - Ballycastle relegated - straight up and I'd say Glenariffe have done this twice?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
 They've always had a couldn't be arsed attitude late on in the season two hands. Whether they win lose or draw isnt really what I'm talking about. It does the league a disservice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
They've always had a couldn't be arsed attitude late on in the season two hands. Whether they win lose or draw isnt really what I'm talking about. It does the league a disservice
Late in the season? You talking now or October time?
Sure Dunloy had that attitude in the Championship last year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
   :o ouch

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 17, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
They've always had a couldn't be arsed attitude late on in the season two hands. Whether they win lose or draw isnt really what I'm talking about. It does the league a disservice

No more or less than any other team Skull,

They where absolute Shite last night, simple as!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 17, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
They've always had a couldn't be arsed attitude late on in the season two hands. Whether they win lose or draw isnt really what I'm talking about. It does the league a disservice

No more or less than any other team Skull,

They where absolute Shite last night, simple as!!
That's what I was thinking Megaman. Doesn't say for the rest(Bar Loughgiel) if they are sitting at the top.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 17, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
Take it Shane is back from the States then? Would imagine St Gall's giving it a rattle in championship but can't see anything but a Cushendall/Loughgiel final again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 17, 2012, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
MR2 we were missing a few more than 2. This result was always on the cards, it could have happened any time over the last few weeks, the league has become a waste of time with the matches each week being of a really poor quality. Hard to keep players motivated however it is a worrying result coming up to championship.

Very strange comment.

Anyway badly needed result for Ballycastle and puts thoughts of relegation out of the picture. Hopefully gives the team some confidence ahead of the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 17, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Whilst we were very bad and missing a few players, it would be unfair to say Ballycastle didn't play well. Fair play to them. They moved the ball quickly and definitely deserved their win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 17, 2012, 05:03:18 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 17, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Whilst we were very bad and missing a few players, it would be unfair to say Ballycastle didn't play well. Fair play to them. They moved the ball quickly and definitely deserved their win

Fair dues colonel. the way things have went for the Town lately you'd have expected the Dall even missin some to win but like Faihead says great boost before the championship and puts relegation out of the way.  Looks like Ballygalget now allright except St Johns let it slip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
I don't know why everyone is so annoyed by my comments. We've all gotten very politically correct, How can you possibly complain about not taking the league seriously? As long as you don't get relegated then what difference does it actually make if you win it, come second or whatever? We had a great system in place a few years ago where the top 4 qualified for the championship semi finals. I'd love to see that system back, other ideas on how to make the league relevant welcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
I don't know why everyone is so annoyed by my comments. We've all gotten very politically correct, How can you possibly complain about not taking the league seriously? As long as you don't get relegated then what difference does it actually make if you win it, come second or whatever? We had a great system in place a few years ago where the top 4 qualified for the championship semi finals. I'd love to see that system back, other ideas on how to make the league relevant welcome.

You sure about that?? Would that not have meant the rest of division 1 wasn't even in the championship??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Beat Loughgiel by a point tonight I hear. any other results out there ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Belfast teams all the way!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:03:44 PM
None of our North antrim folk about tonight???? Black and Amber might come on :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2012, 10:20:56 PM
 Was at the Galls game tonight. Decent game with a very exciting ending, going into injury time all square. L'giel had a goal disallowed then galls went on to win by a point. Credit to both teams who played with alot of heart. Handbags at the end which could have turned nasty but a great boost for hurling in St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 17, 2012, 10:25:11 PM
Should the goal have been disallowed JC? I wasnt at it so cant comment although I did hear that the best team won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2012, 10:35:11 PM
To be honest , from a distance the decision had merit although those up close say it was a bit dubious!?! Sparked a bit of a free for all which ruined it slightly. To be fair Galls deserved as they lead by 2 or 3 most if the game and l'guiel finished strong but to little to late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 18, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Beat Loughgiel by a point tonight I hear. any other results out there ?

So, you were not at the game MR2, that says a lot about you  ??? ::).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 18, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Beat Loughgiel by a point tonight I hear. any other results out there ?

So, you were not at the game MR2, that says a lot about you  ??? ::).

Refereeing. were you at the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
What's the minor hurling semi final pairings??

Oh just seen it:

St John's v St Galls

Ballycastle V Rossa

I'm predicting a Belfast final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 18, 2012, 11:27:09 AM
St Johns and Rossa are on opposite sides I think I heard a while ago as people were tipping them to meet in the final, not sure of the specific draw. Anyone any details on how the match in Cushendall went, sounds decent enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 18, 2012, 11:27:09 AM
St Johns and Rossa are on opposite sides I think I heard a while ago as people were tipping them to meet in the final, not sure of the specific draw. Anyone any details on how the match in Cushendall went, sounds decent enough?

I'm sure the lads will be on soon enough to let us know of how it went, seems a one point win. Must have been nail bitting near the end
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 18, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
We were poor as I predicted, if Eoin Conlon wasn't injured and we had have kept 15 on the pitch we could have won handy. Apart from good individual performances from McGoldrick and Diamond we were clueless. Rossa's extra man easily curbed any influence from Cormac Ross, and left them with a bit in the tank to kick on in the kast 5 minutes.
So we got what we deserved considering we had barely enough for a darts team nevermind hurling  some nights at training.
Fair play to the young Rossa side who clearly had more work done than us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 18, 2012, 12:22:42 PM
Semi-Final draw is;

Rossa v McQuillan's
St. Gall's v John's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 18, 2012, 12:26:56 PM
well it was a good game, exciting throughout. C'dall tactics didn't pay off, played sweeper and therefore man short in attack, hit numerous low balls into forwards when the high ball would have caused more havoc, just my opinion though. Johnnies keeper in the thick of it throughout the game while I can hardly remember his opposite number being involved that much. Johnnies will be very happy to win up in the Glens and should be able to go all the way now if they put in the work. The referee (Colm Cunning, Dunloy) did a good job. He didn't get everything right but then who ever does.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 18, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
We were poor as I predicted, if Eoin Conlon wasn't injured and we had have kept 15 on the pitch we could have won handy. Apart from good individual performances from McGoldrick and Diamond we were clueless. Rossa's extra man easily curbed any influence from Cormac Ross, and left them with a bit in the tank to kick on in the kast 5 minutes.
So we got what we deserved considering we had barely enough for a darts team nevermind hurling  some nights at training.
Fair play to the young Rossa side who clearly had more work done than us.

Was that young lad that I sent off last month playing? So another player sent off? Train all year, managers put effort in all year all building to the first championship match and ya get a player sent off!! Bloody bollox
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 18, 2012, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 18, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
We were poor as I predicted, if Eoin Conlon wasn't injured and we had have kept 15 on the pitch we could have won handy. Apart from good individual performances from McGoldrick and Diamond we were clueless. Rossa's extra man easily curbed any influence from Cormac Ross, and left them with a bit in the tank to kick on in the kast 5 minutes.
So we got what we deserved considering we had barely enough for a darts team nevermind hurling  some nights at training.
Fair play to the young Rossa side who clearly had more work done than us.

Was that young lad that I sent off last month playing? So another player sent off? Train all year, managers put effort in all year all building to the first championship match and ya get a player sent off!! Bloody bollox

No he wasn't playing MR and but i'd say he would have added to the 2 red cards we received, well deservrd in my opinion. it may have been retaliation but still selfish in my book. We need more like young Conlon who gets hammered black and blue yet never reacts.....thats the honesty and sacrafice we are sadly lacking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 18, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
Any reports from the Cushendall v St Johns game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 18, 2012, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:03:44 PM
None of our North antrim folk about tonight???? Black and Amber might come on :o

you missin me Milltown? sorry sorry sorry. workin last night and Sat is contribute to the local economy day. home now but expect nohin to logiall  lol

but nobody inthe town thinks our minors will be in the final so youse'll have a wah wah day i n Casement. Enjoy!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 18, 2012, 10:58:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 18, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Beat Loughgiel by a point tonight I hear. any other results out there ?

So, you were not at the game MR2, that says a lot about you  ??? ::).

Refereeing. were you at the game?
Nah, me too.

Heard it was a great game though, despite the bit of handbag stuff near then end. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 19, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
What happenned at Milltown after the match? Supporters jumping the wire?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 19, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
What happenned at Milltown after the match? Supporters jumping the wire?

Not exactly the best place to have a Championship match, no real place to have supporters watch the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MilltownBlues on August 19, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
Not really, the ref made gave a free out in the last few minutes to st.galls and the Loughgeil Umpire tried to pull St.Galls Goalkeeper from the ground and a little scuffle happened, few people went on to break it up, Red Headed Loughgeil manager pushing St.Galls minors around, a few worried mothers exchanged words.  Thats it all really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
Kilkenny were class 2nd half today. I might venture down on the 9th, should be a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 19, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
Kilkenny were class 2nd half today. I might venture down on the 9th, should be a great game.
The Cats sure play a mean game which our county and others have no comprehension of.  What can you say?  The best hurling team/county ever. Cody is an absolute legend.

The ref was atrocious, Richie Power having the helmet torn of his head, and a vicious swing on TJ Reid by Bonnar Maher.  Surely two red cards in anyone's book!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 20, 2012, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 18, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
Any reports from the Cushendall v St Johns game?

Game started off very well, went score for score up to about 6-6 then St Johns got a goal from a penalty. Thought it was harsh myself but was told it was definitely a foul by one of the players (however it was outside the square). Nugent hit it like a complete rocket and it was never going to be stopped. St John's went 6 up before Eoin Campbell scored a great goal. Cushendall brought it back to 1 point at half time. Cushendall started brightly in second half and went a point up. After that we conceded too many frees and hit too many wides. St Johns free taker was taking the complete p*ss with his frees, and was allowed as much time as he wanted until after about 6 frees when Skinny who was reffing blew it up for two men. St Johns got a late score and unfortunately one of our players had a good chance to equalise but it dropped wide under pressure. St Johns got another free at the last poc of the game to win by 2.

In truth we were poor and St Johns prob deserved to win. Ryan McCambridge was excellent for us and I thought Donal Carson was the pick of the Johnnies players, especially in the first half. One note and without sounding like sour grapes the amount of lying down, divings and feigning injury from the Johnnies was nothing short of disgraceful. St Johns supporters were embarrassed by some of their players who spent more time receiving treatment and then sprinting across the pitch to get the next ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 20, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 20, 2012, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 18, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
Any reports from the Cushendall v St Johns game?

Game started off very well, went score for score up to about 6-6 then St Johns got a goal from a penalty. Thought it was harsh myself but was told it was definitely a foul by one of the players (however it was outside the square). Nugent hit it like a complete rocket and it was never going to be stopped. St John's went 6 up before Eoin Campbell scored a great goal. Cushendall brought it back to 1 point at half time. Cushendall started brightly in second half and went a point up. After that we conceded too many frees and hit too many wides. St Johns free taker was taking the complete p*ss with his frees, and was allowed as much time as he wanted until after about 6 frees when Skinny who was reffing blew it up for two men. St Johns got a late score and unfortunately one of our players had a good chance to equalise but it dropped wide under pressure. St Johns got another free at the last poc of the game to win by 2.

In truth we were poor and St Johns prob deserved to win. Ryan McCambridge was excellent for us and I thought Donal Carson was the pick of the Johnnies players, especially in the first half. One note and without sounding like sour grapes the amount of lying down, divings and feigning injury from the Johnnies was nothing short of disgraceful. St Johns supporters were embarrassed by some of their players who spent more time receiving treatment and then sprinting across the pitch to get the next ball.

I have heard this from several people. It nearly ruined a good game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 20, 2012, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2012, 10:25:54 AM
Sounds like sour grapes tbh.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it had to be seen to be believed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 20, 2012, 11:03:58 AM
Not the first such complaint re st johns.

They always have enjoyed the dramatics!

Oh please look at me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2012, 11:08:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2012, 11:03:58 AM
Not the first such complaint re st johns.

They always have enjoyed the dramatics!

Oh please look at me!

they've always had a few lads with 'de tanned legs'. I always thought there was a micro climate up in Whiterock, but alas any time I was there it was either raining or blowing a gale or both.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 20, 2012, 11:13:22 AM
Have to agre with Colonel about the diving, it was embarrassing at times, although didnt affect the result IMO.

Have to say i really enjoyed the game, played by wo really good teams, it was as good as game as i seen in a long time in antrim at any level, skill levels of some players on both teams was vey high, some scores where exceptional, pity they didnt meet until the final.

the only bad thing i will say was it was sad to see the winner was decided by bad refereeing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2012, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2012, 11:13:22 AM
Have to agre with Colonel about the diving, it was embarrassing at times, although didnt affect the result IMO.

Have to say i really enjoyed the game, played by wo really good teams, it was as good as game as i seen in a long time in antrim at any level, skill levels of some players on both teams was vey high, some scores where exceptional, pity they didnt meet until the final.

the only bad thing i will say was it was sad to see the winner was decided by bad refereeing.

I think it has been universally agreed that the better team won, despite some of the dramatics and you see fit to the blame the ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2012, 11:13:22 AM
Have to agre with Colonel about the diving, it was embarrassing at times, although didnt affect the result IMO.Have to say i really enjoyed the game, played by wo really good teams, it was as good as game as i seen in a long time in antrim at any level, skill levels of some players on both teams was vey high, some scores where exceptional, pity they didnt meet until the final.

the only bad thing i will say was it was sad to see the winner was decided by bad refereeing.

Are you contradicting yourself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 20, 2012, 12:23:42 PM
read it properly please

i said the diving didnt affect the result.

i didnt say St john didnt deserve to win, i said it was decided in the end by poor decisions rather than good points / play.

the ref was poor, very poor, for both teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2012, 12:39:34 PM
You going to point some of these out or you just having a general swipe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2012, 12:23:42 PM
read it properly please

i said the diving didnt affect the result.

i didnt say St john didnt deserve to win, i said it was decided in the end by poor decisions rather than good points / play.

the ref was poor, very poor, for both teams.

These things have a way of evening themselves out (decisions that is) over the course of the match, what you see from the part of the ground you're standing in may not be as visible to the referee. Just cause everyones shouts 'foul ref' doesn't mean he can give a free. He needs to ref what he sees.

I'd say Cunning couldn't give a shit to who wins and would be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 20, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints

No complaints at this end either from the games I have seen him referee.

What is your issue with him MIBAG? Are you a referee yourself given the name? (not sure if this has been confirmed in the past).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 20, 2012, 06:54:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints

didn't realise he refereed at the lower levels.  when are the league deciders between rossa and oisins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 20, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints

No complaints at this end either from the games I have seen him referee.

What is your issue with him MIBAG? Are you a referee yourself given the name? (not sure if this has been confirmed in the past).
Of course he is a referee, sure everybody knows that.  An impartial, unbiased referee, well that's another question.?Although, to be fair, there would nae be too many referees in this county, if you get my drift,  who are straight, unbiased or who do not have an axe to grind! Self opinionated, egotistical bunch of individuals, if you ask me.  Like to hog the limelight and feel they are more important than the game IMO. But hey, we need the all the same  :D

I wonder what the odds are this year for the county final, not too far away:
Now If I was Paddy Power!

Hasson  - 5/4
Elliott - 7/2
Duffy - 5/1
Herbie - 7/1
Cunning - 9/1 (how many N's in CNUT?)
MIBAG - ????
F T - 20/1
Reilly - 100/1  (600/1  - If Rossa had reached the Final)
MR2 - Jury out on you MR2, could not rely on your impartiality either I think ;)
Joe Compston - 300/1
Ger. Robinson - 1000/1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 20, 2012, 11:01:52 PM
Sure Cunning will be playing in it ... will he not?!

Quote from: winker3716 on August 20, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints

No complaints at this end either from the games I have seen him referee.

What is your issue with him MIBAG? Are you a referee yourself given the name? (not sure if this has been confirmed in the past).
Of course he is a referee, sure everybody knows that.  An impartial, unbiased referee, well that's another question.?Although, to be fair, there would nae be too many referees in this county, if you get my drift,  who are straight, unbiased or who do not have an axe to grind! Self opinionated, egotistical bunch of individuals, if you ask me.  Like to hog the limelight and feel they are more important than the game IMO. But hey, we need the all the same  :D

I wonder what the odds are the year for the county final:

Hasson  - 5/4
Elliott - 7/2
Duffy - 5/1
Herbie - 7/1
Cunning - 9/1
MIBAG - ????
F T - 20/1
Reilly - 100/1  (600/1  - If Rossa had reached the Final)
MR2 - Jury out on you MR2, could not rely on your impartiality either I think ;)
Joe Compston - 300/1
Ger. Robinson - 1000/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:20:38 AM
Winker3716 wont get into a slanging match, a word to the wise though, I would shorten those odds dramatically on Herbie ;) That's just my opinion of course, EH is Derry great referee but not saffron and white running through his veins, and OE did do it last year, my only gripe with him was that carson shud have had a penalty in the last few minutes, advantage didn't accrue >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
On a side note and a different thread, put your money on K Drayne for the football final, I hear he is the latest member of the Illuminati in the corridors of power, and for those that need a bit of direction that's above a KNIGHT! Jesus this new Stadium is bringing them all out of the woodwork!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2012, 08:26:15 AM
ManInBlackandGreen, your forgetting the penalty he gave Loughgiel, That incident would have fitted better at the pool at the olympics!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2012, 08:35:26 AM
JJ please dont encourage him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
On a side note and a different thread, put your money on K Drayne for the football final, I hear he is the latest member of the Illuminati in the corridors of power, and for those that need a bit of direction that's above a KNIGHT! Jesus this new Stadium is bringing them all out of the woodwork!

Give Dan Brown a call, I'd say he's looking new material for a sequel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 09:42:23 AM
http://m.hoganstand.com/antrim/news/175830
Oh no!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 22, 2012, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 09:42:23 AM
http://m.hoganstand.com/antrim/news/175830
Oh no!
Why's that Slick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 22, 2012, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
He'd be an improvement.
Can't see anyone who knows him having a problem with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
Perhaps he will look to jump county ship the same way he attempted to jump club ship. I'm sorry but I could just see another controversial ending occurring. He seems to be respected for his coaching though, maybe that is a role for him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
He'd be an improvement.

And that from a Rossa man.

Nice statement and I'd like to see him give it a go. Hurling mad, and knows his hurling. Why not???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 22, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
Perhaps he will look to jump county ship the same way he attempted to jump club ship. I'm sorry but I could just see another controversial ending occurring. He seems to be respected for his coaching though, maybe that is a role for him?
Cheap shot Slick, he sets very high standards for himself and the players and sometimes not everyone can live with that. Hardly a negative on his part?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on August 22, 2012, 10:39:51 AM
Saw E.H was doing the line at the KK Tipp match and Herbie was 4th official for the minor game.  Probably a toss up for the final between the two of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
From what I hear the clubs only nominated three people for the Antrim job.. Dick, Pj and Kevin Ryan (ex Carlow). two of those aren't interested at the minute. It's a bit of a quandary alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
From what I hear the clubs only nominated three people for the Antrim job.. Dick, Pj and Kevin Ryan (ex Carlow). two of those aren't interested at the minute. It's a bit of a quandary alright.

Which two SIE? Surely anyone who was nominated would have been asked before allowing their name to go forward? On Kevin Ryan, I thought it nominees were to be taken from with Antrim?

Micky Johnson has talked himself up big time there in the paper. As regards to the respect he thinks he is going to command, I'm not sure about this. No doubts about his passion and love of hurling but there I know some players in the squad who wouldn't be happy with his appointment, and they would be from city and country clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2012, 11:10:56 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 10:42:35 AM
From what I hear the clubs only nominated three people for the Antrim job.. Dick, Pj and Kevin Ryan (ex Carlow). two of those aren't interested at the minute. It's a bit of a quandary alright.

Which two SIE? Surely anyone who was nominated would have been asked before allowing their name to go forward? On Kevin Ryan, I thought it nominees were to be taken from with Antrim?

Micky Johnson has talked himself up big time there in the paper. As regards to the respect he thinks he is going to command, I'm not sure about this. No doubts about his passion and love of hurling but there I know some players in the squad who wouldn't be happy with his appointment, and they would be from city and country clubs

I can also foresee this element counting against him from certain clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
I don't believe you have to be asked to be nominated. You can also be nominated by any club. For example Dick was nominated by Armoy I believe.

Dick has been quoted as saying he's wanting time with his family and Pj has unfinished work with loughgiel to complete. That being said, they'd probably consider it in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
I don't believe you have to be asked to be nominated. You can also be nominated by any club. For example Dick was nominated by Armoy I believe.

Dick has been quoted as saying he's wanting time with his family and Pj has unfinished work with loughgiel to complete. That being said, they'd probably consider it in the future.

If someone was to nominate you I think the decent thing would be to at least ask the person if they are willing to go forward. That said, I was told it was your own club that nominated PJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2012, 11:43:18 AM
Just wondering how the back room staff would work if that was the case  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
I don't believe you have to be asked to be nominated. You can also be nominated by any club. For example Dick was nominated by Armoy I believe.

Dick has been quoted as saying he's wanting time with his family and Pj has unfinished work with loughgiel to complete. That being said, they'd probably consider it in the future.

If someone was to nominate you I think the decent thing would be to at least ask the person if they are willing to go forward. That said, I was told it was your own club that nominated PJ?
yeah, it would have been a bit ignorant not to after the success we've had recently. And I agree about informing the person nominated btw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
I don't believe you have to be asked to be nominated. You can also be nominated by any club. For example Dick was nominated by Armoy I believe.

Dick has been quoted as saying he's wanting time with his family and Pj has unfinished work with loughgiel to complete. That being said, they'd probably consider it in the future.

If someone was to nominate you I think the decent thing would be to at least ask the person if they are willing to go forward. That said, I was told it was your own club that nominated PJ?
yeah, it would have been a bit ignorant not to after the success we've had recently. And I agree about informing the person nominated btw.

So PJ is interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 12:31:37 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2012, 11:13:10 AM
I don't believe you have to be asked to be nominated. You can also be nominated by any club. For example Dick was nominated by Armoy I believe.

Dick has been quoted as saying he's wanting time with his family and Pj has unfinished work with loughgiel to complete. That being said, they'd probably consider it in the future.

If someone was to nominate you I think the decent thing would be to at least ask the person if they are willing to go forward. That said, I was told it was your own club that nominated PJ?
yeah, it would have been a bit ignorant not to after the success we've had recently. And I agree about informing the person nominated btw.

So PJ is interested?
I haven't spoke to him in a while colonel, the last time I spoke with him he wasn't. But sure, that might have changed or might not have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 22, 2012, 01:06:22 PM
I have a feeling that no matter who was appointed there would be palyers from the city and the country who would have their gripes. Its the same with club managers too, always a few players who think he is not the right person for the job. Cant please everyone.

I doubt Mc Carthy or anyone else with a good background would be interested in the antrim job esepecially after the shambles this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2012, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Well you can't have Donal O'Grady, he's already agreed to assist the Down hurlers this year and will be picking up Brian Cody on the way through for a few sessions as well.
Nicky English is to take our minors next year as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2012, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Well you can't have Donal O'Grady, he's already agreed to assist the Down hurlers this year and will be picking up Brian Cody on the way through for a few sessions as well.
Nicky English is to take our minors next year as well.

I heard that the timetable for the ferry is getting changed to suit the fellas as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Outside the county? If Brian Cody came up to take team you would still get the players pissing about, on the lash and not really putting in the effort. One of the last managers to win a title of sorts with the county was a Sarsfield's man, whether people liked him our not he's won a National Title. I'm not saying bring him back, just saying that we should look at our own first.

Players need to buy into a managers game plan, if they don't, then they have failed before a ball is pucked in the League. Too many up their own holes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MilltownBlues on August 22, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
He would be a great man for the job!! He will take no shit!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2012, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: the colonel on August 22, 2012, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2012, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Well you can't have Donal O'Grady, he's already agreed to assist the Down hurlers this year and will be picking up Brian Cody on the way through for a few sessions as well.
Nicky English is to take our minors next year as well.

I heard that the timetable for the ferry is getting changed to suit the fellas as well.

what ferry? There's a bridge to be built to facilitate this.
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Outside the county? If Brian Cody came up to take team you would still get the players pissing about, on the lash and not really putting in the effort. One of the last managers to win a title of sorts with the county was a Sarsfield's man, whether people liked him our not he's won a National Title. I'm not saying bring him back, just saying that we should look at our own first.

Players need to buy into a managers game plan, if they don't, then they have failed before a ball is pucked in the League. Too many up their own holes
Sure yer man Guinness could hardly string a sentence together, never mind a team MR2, are you serious man?

I have always been of the sound opinion we need to go outside this county, someone with no vested interest inter club rivalry-baggage and all that that brings.  And by the way, keep Sambo wel out of the way as an added caveat! ;)  We don't need coaches, we need a manager, who can manage!  The same way we need a county executive which can manage.  As I said, I am somewhat radical and all for change. :-X

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 22, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
would johnson be that bad,

reliable, not much travelling, seriously committed, could bring a good team with him, bit of luck cahill as a coach.

have we had great antrim managers before him

down minors getting nicky english, yeah for a couple of sessions one weekend when he is up to catch up with his oul mate danny hughes, though he could be tempted back to his native tipp.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2012, 05:50:26 PM
For what it's worth it seems to me that Johnson has many attributes in terms of preparing teams - but I have to say he has also proved time & time again to be a divisive figure.

Is there a safe pair of hands out there?
Is there an alternative to Johnston that is interested?
If not then he's gotta get it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Wrong paddies mans winker

"If Brian Cody came up to take team you would still get the players pissing about, on the lash and not really putting in the effort. "

100% agree with this MR2

We are not KK. I would prefer that the county management went to clubs and players..demanded fitness levels in all clubs get to the right level. keep an eye on whos playing well and then pick a squad (seek agreement from 40-50 players that they would attend if selected) the week before a game...train twice and then play the game...then players go back to the clubs... Would be cheaper or at least allow funds not to be burned on travelling expenses and be redirected into treating the players better when they do represent the county.

Think it would be no worse than than how we've done this past few years. Players I think would prefer it .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
A bit radical skull but I certainly see where u are coming from.
I'm off to have a look at your lot hardstation - with an eye on the league deciders in September.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Outside the county? If Brian Cody came up to take team you would still get the players pissing about, on the lash and not really putting in the effort. One of the last managers to win a title of sorts with the county was a Sarsfield's man, whether people liked him our not he's won a National Title. I'm not saying bring him back, just saying that we should look at our own first.

Players need to buy into a managers game plan, if they don't, then they have failed before a ball is pucked in the League. Too many up their own holes
Sure yer man Guinness could hardly string a sentence together, never mind a team MR2, are you serious man?

I have always been of the sound opinion we need to go outside this county, someone with no vested interest inter club rivalry-baggage and all that that brings.  And by the way, keep Sambo wel out of the way as an added caveat! ;)  We don't need coaches, we need a manager, who can manage!  The same way we need a county executive which can manage.  As I said, I am somewhat radical and all for change. :-X

McGuinness winker and he was a decent manager in his day, but you knew all along who I was talking about 8)

Your wee mask has started to slip of late, but sure we'll play along till you go banana's again :o

I heard Cushendall came down to watch us play Lamhs tonight, I'm stuck in house but I hear we've no team out and getting hammered 24 to 2 !!! Plenty of positional line outs, tactics to get tonight lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 22, 2012, 08:51:24 PM
Glenariffe beat Gort Na Mona 7-15 to 0-10.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
Comes down to the two games. Exciting enough finish. We'll be lucky to get 4 points but fcuk it, all to play for.
Totally, and in a better position than the way ya's started the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
Fair play to Rossa for getting it down to these two games, wouldn't have thought they would still be in the shake up after their disastrous start. Although they have yet to play Glenariffe they would have normally slipped up throughout the season against the so called weaker teams. Seems they pulled out a few results when down a few players that in the past they would have thrown in the towel.

Sarsfields and Carey sounded like a good game, with Sars getting the last second goal to win, good to see them getting back to winning ways. What has happened to St Galls, I personally just don't think they have enough hurlers in their club, not talking quality as they have some of the best in the county, but when they are light on numbers they seem to do terribly bad.

Hopefully with the football over Lamh Dhearg can focus on the hurling, if they get a few weeks training done they could trouble St Johns in the SHC.

Bad loss for Gort na Mona away to Glenariffe, would have been expected but Gort have done well to turn around their season, and again were missing a few regulars tonight.

Minor semi finals on Friday night in casement, great advertisement for Belfast hurling, if these teams can keep together and move on to senior then it will be a great boost for city hurling. St Johns clear favourites but teams will be aiming to close the gap, and Rossa will be looking to get their young team ready for minor next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 22, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
Fair play to Rossa for getting it down to these two games, wouldn't have thought they would still be in the shake up after their disastrous start. Although they have yet to play Glenariffe they would have normally slipped up throughout the season against the so called weaker teams. Seems they pulled out a few results when down a few players that in the past they would have thrown in the towel.

Sarsfields and Carey sounded like a good game, with Sars getting the last second goal to win, good to see them getting back to winning ways. What has happened to St Galls, I personally just don't think they have enough hurlers in their club, not talking quality as they have some of the best in the county, but when they are light on numbers they seem to do terribly bad.

Hopefully with the football over Lamh Dhearg can focus on the hurling, if they get a few weeks training done they could trouble St Johns in the SHC.

Bad loss for Gort na Mona away to Glenariffe, would have been expected but Gort have done well to turn around their season, and again were missing a few regulars tonight.

Minor semi finals on Friday night in casement, great advertisement for Belfast hurling, if these teams can keep together and move on to senior then it will be a great boost for city hurling. St Johns clear favourites but teams will be aiming to close the gap, and Rossa will be looking to get their young team ready for minor next year.

Aye we won't trouble Cushendall this year, or any other year. There is a stick burning session going on at the club at mo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 22, 2012, 09:29:44 PM
It was a stupid point we dropped at home to Lamh Dhearg at the start of the season, would be home and hosed now if we had beaten them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 22, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Cushendall were unbeaten up until last night and nearly won it last year(beaten in last match) so they must have been taking it serious enough??

Which is grand but that excuse is a bit unfair, teams from div 2 would love to be in that league and fight tooth and nail to get in......

Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2012, 08:50:02 PM
Lamh Dhearg 1-22
Naomh Gall 0-02

What in undern fcuk?

We won 2-15 to 0-09 but weren't great by all accounts. Btdtgtt?
???????????????? MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 22, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 17, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
That's a woeful list of excuses JJ. Cushendall have perennially be poor respectors of the league especially around July and August. Poor quality comes from that mindset. I've seen some very good hurling this past few weeks. You do the reputation of the league very real harm when teams step onto the pitch to go through the motions and then somehow blame 'the league' for the poor quality game
Cushendall were unbeaten up until last night and nearly won it last year(beaten in last match) so they must have been taking it serious enough??

Which is grand but that excuse is a bit unfair, teams from div 2 would love to be in that league and fight tooth and nail to get in......

Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2012, 08:50:02 PM
Lamh Dhearg 1-22
Naomh Gall 0-02

What in undern fcuk?

We won 2-15 to 0-09 but weren't great by all accounts. Btdtgtt?
???????????????? MR2

No stewart, Mackers, Aidso, McGourty's, none of the better minors, I could go on, New management team in place have everything sorted for the Dall :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 22, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
In my humble opinion, bring back Dinnie C. Alternatively, approach Justin McCarthy, Donal O'Grady.  Keep it outside the county.  Coaching is one thing, managing is a completely different can of worms, also together.  This county needs to be managed from the top down, at admin and team levels.  We can play hurling in Antrim, what we need to do is apply it in the right form and have strategy and tactics managed.

Johnston can coach, there is no doubt, but as for respect of the players and managerial ability, well, lets not go there!  :o

Outside the county? If Brian Cody came up to take team you would still get the players pissing about, on the lash and not really putting in the effort. One of the last managers to win a title of sorts with the county was a Sarsfield's man, whether people liked him our not he's won a National Title. I'm not saying bring him back, just saying that we should look at our own first.

Players need to buy into a managers game plan, if they don't, then they have failed before a ball is pucked in the League. Too many up their own holes
Sure yer man Guinness could hardly string a sentence together, never mind a team MR2, are you serious man?

I have always been of the sound opinion we need to go outside this county, someone with no vested interest inter club rivalry-baggage and all that that brings.  And by the way, keep Sambo wel out of the way as an added caveat! ;)  We don't need coaches, we need a manager, who can manage!  The same way we need a county executive which can manage.  As I said, I am somewhat radical and all for change. :-X

McGuinness winker and he was a decent manager in his day, but you knew all along who I was talking about 8)

Your wee mask has started to slip of late, but sure we'll play along till you go banana's again :o

I heard Cushendall came down to watch us play Lamhs tonight, I'm stuck in house but I hear we've no team out and getting hammered 24 to 2 !!! Plenty of positional line outs, tactics to get tonight lol.
I'd suggest your getting your wires crossed somehow.  And I really thought you were talking about McGuinness. ??? :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2012, 11:31:08 PM
I think the margin of results from Glenarrife & milltown tells us perhaps more about the strength of the teams put out rather than true victory margins.

As for the Rossa game HS - if Rossa start like that against oisins the game will be gone. Randalstown missed 2 point blank gifts and still led 4-1. Then rossa got a soft goal - it resulted in them going in ahead in first half when Randalstown had been on top. 2nd half tho was one way traffic. Rossa dominated. Randalstown couldn't get the ball up the pitch and Rossa were handy winners in the end.

Without being too negative Rossa don't seem able to trouble Glenarrife. It is worrying than they still
Don't seem to get their full side out - Hamill (injury gone for good?) Shannon (USA) McGuinness (injury) bell (?) Armstrong (?)
These would be main influences so if they are not playing is preparation sufficient for oisins?
HS?

Mr2 it's disappointing to see galls flounder but not really surprising - fair enough
Football is the priority that's understandable at this stage of the season. It appears we will forever wonder "what if" about galls hurling.

One good side is that Lamh dearg got a couple of much needed points so will hopefully stay Up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 23, 2012, 01:37:27 AM
Think there were a few Rossa ones that got mixed up and thought their game was being played on the Boucher Road tonight. They will all be training and playing against Glenariffe I am sure. Fancy them for at least one win anyway. Obviously one win not being enough, but we will see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 23, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
See MJ stating his interest - http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2012/0822/334485-michael-johnston-i-want-antrim-job/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

If he was to be considered does Rogan not deserve a shout at the job given his work with Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
If Rossa players are at a music concert instead of a promotion bid then Glenarrufe deserve to go up. Sickens me as a city man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2012, 02:58:18 PM
Awh now the lads need a social life too btdtgtt  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 02:59:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
If Rossa players are at a music concert instead of a promotion bid then Glenarrufe deserve to go up. Sickens me as a city man.

Did they not win?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
Ok ok I know - what I mean is that it becomes a bigger IF given this attitude at such a crucial time of the season.
I would genuinely prefer Rossa to go up - but surely attending a concert in front of a promotions campaign cant be condoned HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
We'll see in September how many oisins look like they've prepared for promotion with the stone roses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.
Their second album was average enough, hardly worth the wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!

I'm near sure you were with me ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!

I'm near sure you were with me ::)

Defo not. Needed to work on promotion that year - to no avail! :-(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!

I'm near sure you were with me ::)

Defo not. Needed to work on promotion that year - to no avail! :-(

87 we won promotion against Cushendun I think (Blue room) Following year we played Div 1 and senior Championship against Sarsfields I was 16!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!

I'm near sure you were with me ::)

Defo not. Needed to work on promotion that year - to no avail! :-(

87 we won promotion against Cushendun I think (Blue room) Following year we played Div 1 and senior Championship against Sarsfields I was 16!!

I was17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2012, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: eoinbeag on August 23, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 23, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Can by me. Stone Roses are class.


+1 Hardstation.

Remember missing U2 at Kings Hall some years back to play a Div 2 hurling match against Glenarm up there in the pissing rain. Have always regretted not seeing Lou Reed at this gig!

Stone Roses are a class act. Came out of retirement to play these gigs.why wouldn't  some of the lads want to see them and I wouldn't hold it against them

1988/89!!! I was at Concert

I know, we struggled to get a team together, but have different memories, we were a hurler down!

I'm near sure you were with me ::)

Defo not. Needed to work on promotion that year - to no avail! :-(

87 we won promotion against Cushendun I think (Blue room) Following year we played Div 1 and senior Championship against Sarsfields I was 16!!

I was17

Don't fret :o I was just the better hurler 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 24, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
St Galls love in going on at the moment lads. Anyway, do any of the big teams remaining in the championship have any injury worries at the moment or do all teams have full squads to pick from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on August 24, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
Talk in dall of galls giving a walk over!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
Burnt the sticks I heard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2012, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
Burnt the sticks I heard

We are going to use these instead for the Dall game

(http://cocalicolacrosse.org/images/Lacrosse_Crossed_20Lacrosse_20Sticks__HK51___2_51x2_55__4071.gif)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 24, 2012, 06:31:44 PM
Quote from: Move er on on August 24, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
Talk in dall of galls giving a walk over!!
Absolute disgrace, they should be kicked out and demoted to intermediate, and they supposedly a dual code club?

Let them glory in their "bogball", and they would have you believe they are committed equally to both codes.  Totally diabolical, if you ask me!

Each club has a responsibility to promote both codes and commit to them.  By then maybe it's a money thing.  Maybe MR2 would enlighten us all?????  >:(  :o  But being the great lover of hurling that he is, he's maybe on his way to Casement to watch the minors against St. John's.  On the other hand, is there a Tom Jones/Inglebert Humperdink concert on at Boucher Road?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 24, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
Winker - I assume by your response that you are in the know and that st galls aren't going to field??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 24, 2012, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: glens73 on August 24, 2012, 07:04:29 PM
Winker - I assume by your response that you are in the know and that st galls aren't going to field??
Not in the know at all mate, just think it is a disgrace, if it'true.  I'd say the real hurling people in St.Gall's (if there is such a thing) will be sick to the back teeth!  But before MRs has a serious attack of paranoia, it would be good to get his slant on matters?   Rumour has it that he was a contributor to the state of play regarding hurling in his club, but he would be better placed to answer that?  I am only saying what I was informed of, no offence.  But always good to get it from the horses mouth as they say  ;).

Apart from all that, bring back Dinny, the only sure sign of progress we have made in the last decade.  I'd be prepared to chip in a few shackles to cover the expenses, but I would be afraid on them hallions up in Casement. say no more  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Winker just you worry about the big sheep sale tomorrow, could be a big day for you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 24, 2012, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Winker just you worry about the big sheep sale tomorrow, could be a big day for you
Nah JJ.   More important things to tend to tomorrow.  A big fry, Club duties, a wee bet, and a few scoops. Is the U21 match on TV anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2012, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 24, 2012, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Winker just you worry about the big sheep sale tomorrow, could be a big day for you
Nah JJ.   More important things to tend to tomorrow.  A big fry, Club duties, a wee bet, and a few scoops. Is the U21 match on TV anyone?

TG4 live at 4pm, handicap is a whopping 23 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Move er on on August 25, 2012, 12:54:24 AM
Was talking to a galls man in the know this evening. They will definitely not be fielding against fall and will be focusing solely on cargin game the following Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 25, 2012, 02:18:04 AM
So the dall going into a semi without having any championship speed games under the belt ???   I wouldn't be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field

Won't be fielding, will be having Sunday roast at the Greenan Lodge followed by a few scoops in the club!!

Winker2709(bog ash) you do believe and talk some shite. Bring Dinny back????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2012, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 24, 2012, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 24, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Winker just you worry about the big sheep sale tomorrow, could be a big day for you
Nah JJ.   More important things to tend to tomorrow.  A big fry, Club duties, a wee bet, and a few scoops. Is the U21 match on TV anyone?

TG4 live at 4pm, handicap is a whopping 23 points.

Should beat that handicap, surely?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
Clare will beat us by 30+

Without sounding like I'm whinging (because I don't really give a fcuk) I'm surprised we don't have any players on the U21 panel.

It's a redundant age group anyway.

Say's it all, Paddy Power are giving us evens to score 12 or more points :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 25, 2012, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field

Won't be fielding, will be having Sunday roast at the Greenan Lodge followed by a few scoops in the club!!

Winker2709(bog ash) you do believe and talk some shite. Bring Dinny back????
Them boys who sent me messages were right.  You're levels of paranoia know now bounds. Catch a grip of your self lad.  Sure would that not be like St. Galls bring you back?  Bottom line is, both cost money!  And was  "bog ash" not a Miltown like your good self.  Come on now lad relax, keep taking the tablets, what are they prescribing for Bi-Polar syndrome nowadays?  ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( :(

Word on the street is, you cant buy hurling balls, so how are you's going to buy dinner.  Sure maybe your Rossa mates would lend you's a few bob, they're well heeled at present I hear.  Off to the office now and invest shackles with PP. ya never know, that dinner may still be feasible!  ;)er
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 25, 2012, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field

Won't be fielding, will be having Sunday roast at the Greenan Lodge followed by a few scoops in the club!!

Winker2709(bog ash) you do believe and talk some shite. Bring Dinny back????
Them boys who sent me messages were right.  You're levels of paranoia know now bounds. Catch a grip of your self lad.  Sure would that not be like St. Galls bring you back?  Bottom line is, both cost money!  And was  "bog ash" not a Miltown like your good self.  Come on now lad relax, keep taking the tablets, what are they prescribing for Bi-Polar syndrome nowadays?  ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( :(

Word on the street is, you cant buy hurling balls, so how are you's going to buy dinner.  Sure maybe your Rossa mates would lend you's a few bob, they're well heeled at present I hear.  Off to the office now and invest shackles with PP. ya never know, that dinner may still be feasible!  ;)er

Who on here would send you a message??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 25, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field

Won't be fielding, will be having Sunday roast at the Greenan Lodge followed by a few scoops in the club!!

Winker2709(bog ash) you do believe and talk some shite. Bring Dinny back????


HA! Thank fcuk for that I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 25, 2012, 04:13:41 PM
James O'Mullan from Rasharkin having a great game in goals so far. 6-1 to Clare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 04:14:29 PM
Clare 0.7
Antrim 0.1

Keeper keeping the scoreline respectable so far.

The Antrim lads are working really hard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 25, 2012, 04:13:41 PM
James O'Mullan from Rasharkin having a great game in goals so far. 6-1 to Clare.

A stormer, hope It continues. One point from play after 15 mins....... with the wind!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
Our striking and even our dipping is shocking. Cant fault the effort tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
1.11 0.1

The first of many goals i fear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 04:20:48 PM
Great score from Devlin all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 04:22:26 PM
Another lovely score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 25, 2012, 04:23:59 PM
Conor McGrath was one of Clare seniors brightest prospects this season, big Gillan doing rightly on him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
That goal came after he carried the ball for far too long, not that its important.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
I suppose yous will all be collecting your winnings after betting against your county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2012, 04:58:48 PM
I suppose yous will all be collecting your winnings after betting against your county.

Didn't bet against Antrim though did a bet on the game, if that makes any sense 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2012, 05:09:48 PM
Don't count your chickens yet mr2, you never know, 11 quick goals could make the difference.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
You must have done Antrim +34
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2012, 05:09:48 PM
Don't count your chickens yet mr2, you never know, 11 quick goals could make the difference.  ;)

Simple bet really, Clare to score first point from play, even money.  And McGrath to score goal anytime, 8/13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2012, 05:16:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
Clare will beat us by 30+

Got that wrong.

Though not far of the mark. Have we ever made an impression at this level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
Cushendall boys not give this a lash then? Is it because of the manager ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 25, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
What's wrong with Tosh? Apart from him being from Glenarrife?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2012, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
Cushendall boys not give this a lash then? Is it because of the manager ::)

Paddy McNaughton was the only one I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2012, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
Cushendall boys not give this a lash then? Is it because of the manager ::)

Paddy McNaughton was the only one I think.

Panel of 24, he was number 24 :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2012, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 05:23:36 PM
Cushendall boys not give this a lash then? Is it because of the manager ::)

Paddy McNaughton was the only one I think.

Panel of 24, he was number 24 :P

I think they only played the ones that trained regularly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 25, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
What is the point of undergoing this ritual slaughter year after year. It's not fair on either players or management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 25, 2012, 07:31:03 PM
Honest answer is I really don't know. Last three years in semis lost by 25+ points. Seems as though there is no will to improve things. It's not just U21 but minor too, and senior I suppose. We are probably at out lowest ebb I can remember and see no way out. I hope I'm wrong but this year hasn't exactly delivered any silver linings on the county front
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 25, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
maybe we should just let shams represent at all levels ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 25, 2012, 07:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 25, 2012, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2012, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
I wouldn't for a second believe that St. Galls won't field

Won't be fielding, will be having Sunday roast at the Greenan Lodge followed by a few scoops in the club!!

Winker2709(bog ash) you do believe and talk some shite. Bring Dinny back????
Them boys who sent me messages were right.  You're levels of paranoia know now bounds. Catch a grip of your self lad.  Sure would that not be like St. Galls bring you back?  Bottom line is, both cost money!  And was  "bog ash" not a Miltown like your good self.  Come on now lad relax, keep taking the tablets, what are they prescribing for Bi-Polar syndrome nowadays?  ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( :(

Word on the street is, you cant buy hurling balls, so how are you's going to buy dinner.  Sure maybe your Rossa mates would lend you's a few bob, they're well heeled at present I hear.  Off to the office now and invest shackles with PP. ya never know, that dinner may still be feasible!  ;)er

Who on here would send you a message??
You would be surprised MR2.  See, unlike you in your good cop/bad cop role, I don't get affronted when others have a difference of opinion. Whats this Bog Ash crap you refer to, eh? Holy Christ our lads were terrible today. Most certainly a case fro bringing back DC now.  That Jonty lad would set us back another 19 years.  North Antrim lads would also not get a look in  :-[  Well, back to the G&T's, another bloody depressing day  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 26, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
Well mr2 if what I hear is correct fair play to you, when you look at what these supposed experts are getting out of the game, a man deserves his expenses, your committee sounds like a joke, and as per usual in st galls hurling gets the short shift. Stick to the refn, at least your expenses are guaranteed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 26, 2012, 01:38:43 PM
Well mr2 if what I hear is correct fair play to you, when you look at what these supposed experts are getting out of the game, a man deserves his expenses, your committee sounds like a joke, and as per usual in st galls hurling gets the short shift. Stick to the refn, at least your expenses are guaranteed!

Not about the money, but how things are done.

Refereed a game the other night, what da fook are kids on nowadays?? Wanting to fight every time and the mentors are saying I'm causing a riot!! Are these guys for real?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 26, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
Totally agree, it's best to take an attitude now of zero tolerance! No matter what you do your a b****ks so implement the rule book, most don't know what it is!! Our referee,s need to be consistent to the rule book and I guarentee we would eradicate 50% of the problems in one season! Looking at the championship games in football recently, same 4 referees doing all the games, would overlook it if the refs where of a good standard but the reality is there not! Plain and simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 26, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
Hurling games need to be reffed the way they are reffed in the southern counties. A refereeing conference with players, coaches etc is needed to raise awareness of how games are improved by NOT applying every minuscule offence in the rule book. Our players when they play against southern opposition struggle under the intensity of tackling, striking under pressure, ball winning when being tackled etc. There are too many frees awarded up here and the team with the better free taker has an advantage because referees, players and coaches arent used to the game being allowed to flow and the benefit of the doubt given for the sake of improving the game.

I'm not saying we should let chaos happen. I understand referees get it in the neck about the screaming and shouting from sidelines, supporters and players looking frees but if they would all let the game flow, standards in my opinion would improve. If people get nasty or pull dirty strokes, by all means punish them and punish the foul when it is clear a team has no advantage certainly.  But if a player for example is fouled but manages to dip the ball anyway and get away, then let it go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 26, 2012, 02:55:32 PM
With the greatest respect bullks! It has been tried many times in the past by Elliott Duffy Hassan and Matthews and you know what, the teams bar 1 or 2 haven't a fckn clue and want to beat the bullks out of one another!! We can't play that type of game full stop, that's the point I'm making about consistently, too few referee,s that can actually referee this type of physical game, because our referees are poor bar the national lads who are used to referring this style when they head across the boarder!!! I have watched it the last 3 years, and until the county and refs committee bother their arse putting structures in place then the status quo stays, unfortunately for us the paying public! Rant over, lovely cold glass of Chardonnay waiting for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 26, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
Hurling games need to be reffed the way they are reffed in the southern counties. A refereeing conference with players, coaches etc is needed to raise awareness of how games are improved by NOT applying every minuscule offence in the rule book. Our players when they play against southern opposition struggle under the intensity of tackling, striking under pressure, ball winning when being tackled etc. There are too many frees awarded up here and the team with the better free taker has an advantage because referees, players and coaches arent used to the game being allowed to flow and the benefit of the doubt given for the sake of improving the game.

I'm not saying we should let chaos happen. I understand referees get it in the neck about the screaming and shouting from sidelines, supporters and players looking frees but if they would all let the game flow, standards in my opinion would improve. If people get nasty or pull dirty strokes, by all means punish them and punish the foul when it is clear a team has no advantage certainly.  But if a player for example is fouled but manages to dip the ball anyway and get away, then let it go.

I referee the way I would like a referee would do in a game I play in. As MIBG has said only a few do this. Problem is when you let the hard tackles go, the amount of gurning you get from the players, mentors and supporters is un fooking real. I was called a cheat about 5/6 times during the match, I booked the players and sent to mentors to the line. I asked them how was I cheating? I said i don't like either club and don't give a shit who wins, could they understand?? No, thick as fcuk.

A lad was injured and the umpire squealed, yes squealed at me to look at the lad who was injured I said I will but I'm busy sorting this out, he was still squealing at me saying that I wasn't human!!! What a nob.

Even the wee fullback said I'll speak to you after the game!! I booked him and after the match I went over to see what he had to say, of course he'd nowt to say, hopefully I get them again :o

Oh the mad squealing umpire came to me after the game and asked what I was going to do about the lad that got sent off, I said straight for punching player in the face, asked me is there anything I could do????? I said teach the lads to play hurling and stop fighting (dickhead)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 26, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 26, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
Hurling games need to be reffed the way they are reffed in the southern counties. A refereeing conference with players, coaches etc is needed to raise awareness of how games are improved by NOT applying every minuscule offence in the rule book. Our players when they play against southern opposition struggle under the intensity of tackling, striking under pressure, ball winning when being tackled etc. There are too many frees awarded up here and the team with the better free taker has an advantage because referees, players and coaches arent used to the game being allowed to flow and the benefit of the doubt given for the sake of improving the game.

I'm not saying we should let chaos happen. I understand referees get it in the neck about the screaming and shouting from sidelines, supporters and players looking frees but if they would all let the game flow, standards in my opinion would improve. If people get nasty or pull dirty strokes, by all means punish them and punish the foul when it is clear a team has no advantage certainly.  But if a player for example is fouled but manages to dip the ball anyway and get away, then let it go.

I referee the way I would like a referee would do in a game I play in. As MIBG has said only a few do this. Problem is when you let the hard tackles go, the amount of gurning you get from the players, mentors and supporters is un fooking real. I was called a cheat about 5/6 times during the match, I booked the players and sent to mentors to the line. I asked them how was I cheating? I said i don't like either club and don't give a shit who wins, could they understand?? No, thick as fcuk.

A lad was injured and the umpire squealed, yes squealed at me to look at the lad who was injured I said I will but I'm busy sorting this out, he was still squealing at me saying that I wasn't human!!! What a nob.

Even the wee fullback said I'll speak to you after the game!! I booked him and after the match I went over to see what he had to say, of course he'd nowt to say, hopefully I get them again :o

Oh the mad squealing umpire came to me after the game and asked what I was going to do about the lad that got sent off, I said straight for punching player in the face, asked me is there anything I could do????? I said teach the lads to play hurling and stop fighting (d**khead)
Personally I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
Wasn't your game Last Man, but some other spidey team :'(

Was a referee meeting at start of the year and we were all saying about abuse that the referee gets and how we should deal with the mentors and enforce it. One of the mentors that I sent off the line was calling me a cheat !!! what a dick. I said to him as I sent him off that he was at that meeting and was in agreement at the time (shakes head)

Water off a ducks back for me, even had a mother come over to me after the game to say I wasn't protecting her son!! If I hadda applied the rules like they wanted I'd have ended up with 2 players on each team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 26, 2012, 04:26:54 PM
I see what your saying. Anytime i've reffed a kids game or something i do the same. Referee it as you would have liked it played. It isnt nice getting squeeled at but until the GAA bring about some sort of strategy to deal with that, its going to be part of it. The referee just needs to be content with the point that he is improving the game by refereeing it that way. The good thing about Matthews and Elliot is that you knew they were going to ref it that way so people never screamed for frees left right and centre when they were in charge. Surely thats the point about it. If all referees ref it that way then it becomes the norm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 26, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 04:16:55 PM
Wasn't your game Last Man, but some other spidey team :'(

Was a referee meeting at start of the year and we were all saying about abuse that the referee gets and how we should deal with the mentors and enforce it. One of the mentors that I sent off the line was calling me a cheat !!! what a dick. I said to him as I sent him off that he was at that meeting and was in agreement at the time (shakes head)

Water off a ducks back for me, even had a mother come over to me after the game to say I wasn't protecting her son!! If I hadda applied the rules like they wanted I'd have ended up with 2 players on each team

I figured that but i'd be the first to say we have too many offenders anyway. I can't be doing with it myself and hopefully refs would see that any teams that i take who transgress would have more to listen to from me than the ref.
BTW are you insinuating we are one of the spidey teams??? We have been called "snobby middle class b@st@rds" I'll have you know ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 26, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Mr2 that meeting I heard was a complete white wash, wee joe is quoted as saying that e t wouldn't get another game after the cargin v johnnies debacle, ffs he has had 3 championship games!!!! No one gives a fck about referees, in short look after yourself and crucify any asshole that wants to go toe to toe with you. Then you'll get a reputation of he takes no shit, either play or you end up on the line. Fck to many glasses of that vino, the cork v Donegal game is a goodn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 26, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Ah come on lads, the referee thing is boring.  MR2, I did not know you were a ref as well!  Maybe, just maybe you should consider initiating a new thread for referees as well.  MIBAG and your good self could become "honorary moderators" and maybe sort out all this shit  out about refs.

At a personal level, there is only one hurling ref who acts and controls game with impartiality and that's wee Hasson from Derry.

You have acknowledged it yourself,  and I quote "I hate both clubs and don't give a shit" therein lies the problem as I see it.  Refs have their own personal agenda and egos to preserve.  Elliott, Duffy, Herbie, Mathews & Co. all egotists who persist in demanding respect, yet fail to reciprocate respect to opposing teams.

Wee Hasson for the county Final in my book, at least both teams will get a fair deal!  We Hasson also has been accumulating lots of experience at Croke in recent years also. He certainly appears to be the favoured one at Croke, as far as big games are concerned.  Officiating at Croke on Sunday the 9th again!  Looks like the profile of Antrim hurling referees are just not upto the mark. Some radical change again needed where hurling refs are concerned in Antrim? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 26, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Ah come on lads, the referee thing is boring.  MR2, I did not know you were a ref as well!  Maybe, just maybe you should consider initiating a new thread for referees as well.  MIBAG and your good self could become "honorary moderators" and maybe sort out all this shit  out about refs.

At a personal level, there is only one hurling ref who acts and controls game with impartiality and that's wee Hasson from Derry.

You have acknowledged it yourself,  and I quote "I hate both clubs and don't give a shit" therein lies the problem as I see it.  Refs have their own personal agenda and egos to preserve.  Elliott, Duffy, Herbie, Mathews & Co. all egotists who persist in demanding respect, yet fail to reciprocate respect to opposing teams.

Wee Hasson for the county Final in my book, at least both teams will get a fair deal!  We Hasson also has been accumulating lots of experience at Croke in recent years also. He certainly appears to be the favoured one at Croke, as far as big games are concerned.  Officiating at Croke on Sunday the 9th again!  Looks like the profile of Antrim hurling referees are just not upto the mark. Some radical change again needed where hurling refs are concerned in Antrim? ;)



Listen turkey, and this is the last time I'll post anything relating to any of your posts, as in my view, your are just another reincarnation of the WUM's that have been kicked off here repeatedly.

If you are going to quote me then have the decency to to post the quote

'i don't like either club and don't give a shit who wins'

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 26, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 26, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Ah come on lads, the referee thing is boring.  MR2, I did not know you were a ref as well!  Maybe, just maybe you should consider initiating a new thread for referees as well.  MIBAG and your good self could become "honorary moderators" and maybe sort out all this shit  out about refs.

At a personal level, there is only one hurling ref who acts and controls game with impartiality and that's wee Hasson from Derry.

You have acknowledged it yourself,  and I quote "I hate both clubs and don't give a shit" therein lies the problem as I see it.  Refs have their own personal agenda and egos to preserve.  Elliott, Duffy, Herbie, Mathews & Co. all egotists who persist in demanding respect, yet fail to reciprocate respect to opposing teams.

Wee Hasson for the county Final in my book, at least both teams will get a fair deal!  We Hasson also has been accumulating lots of experience at Croke in recent years also. He certainly appears to be the favoured one at Croke, as far as big games are concerned.  Officiating at Croke on Sunday the 9th again!  Looks like the profile of Antrim hurling referees are just not upto the mark. Some radical change again needed where hurling refs are concerned in Antrim? ;)



Listen turkey, and this is the last time I'll post anything relating to any of your posts, as in my view, your are just another reincarnation of the WUM's that have been kicked off here repeatedly.

If you are going to quote me then have the decency to to post the quote

'i don't like either club and don't give a shit who wins'
Now lad, tha's not very nice talk.  If you don't mind me asking by the way, what is a "WUM", new to me?

Well to quote you as you said:
I referee the way I would like a referee would do in a game I play in. As MIBG has said only a few do this. Problem is when you let the hard tackles go, the amount of gurning you get from the players, mentors and supporters is un fooking real. I was called a cheat about 5/6 times during the match, I booked the players and sent to mentors to the line. I asked them how was I cheating? I said i don't like either club and don't give a shit who wins, could they understand?? No, thick as fcuk.

A lad was injured and the umpire squealed, yes squealed at me to look at the lad who was injured I said I will but I'm busy sorting this out, he was still squealing at me saying that I wasn't human!!! What a nob.

Even the wee fullback said I'll speak to you after the game!! I booked him and after the match I went over to see what he had to say, of course he'd nowt to say, hopefully I get them again

Oh the mad squealing umpire came to me after the game and asked what I was going to do about the lad that got sent off, I said straight for punching player in the face, asked me is there anything I could do?? I said teach the lads to play hurling and stop fighting (d**khead)


It appears everyone is either a "Nob or a d**Khead" but you, seems to be a trait of referees! You must be a hardman, when a wee full back does not square up to you, what age was he, 7?

No need for these threatening-negative words MR2! Relax lad, the tablets will kick in soon :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 26, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
this is a topic visited before and will be visited again.

referee at present accepts way too much shite from players and the sideline. 

to stop it all players mentors need to wise up  MR2 your own mate when manager fell into that bracket a few times as well i was watching.

think the south let too much go to tell you the truth, ie Cyrill talking about it all week

would forge ahead that only people allowed to talk to ref is the captains.  still feel 10 yards for mouthing isn't used enough, though at the start for people to catch on there are going to be some yards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
At last we are getting down to the serious stuff, any predictions for the weekend folks?

I'll go:

St. Galls V Cushendall    Dall by 7
Loughgiel V Glenariffe Lgiel by 10
Ballycastle V Dunloy  Dunloy by 4
St. Johns V Lamhs  Johnnies by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 27, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Pretty much similar to JJ.

St. Galls V Cushendall    Dall by 8
Loughgiel V Glenariffe    Lgiel by 12
Ballycastle V Dunloy       Dunloy by 3
St. Johns V Lamhs        Johnnies by 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 27, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
Are any of these games double headers?  Anyone know venues / times?

Think the Dunloy v Ballycastle game will be the closest and will be worth a watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 27, 2012, 12:07:31 PM
They'll need the lights on for the friday night game...


Is Tosh wanting a breeding program but in place to address Antrim's hurling woes? Radical to say the least.

From HS:


McIntosh admits Antrim are "light years behind"
27 August 2012
Antrim U21 manager Johnny McIntosh has called for a radical shake-up of the county's hurling structures after his side's Bord Gais Energy All-Ireland semi-final mauling by Clare.

"We are just gutted," he is quoted as saying in The Irish News.

"What's more frustrating for us is that an U21 team that we have put an amount of work into and to come down like that, we are just light years behind them physically.

"We can talk what we like about developing the game of hurling in Antrim and in Ulster, but physically we are light years behind. Our fastest players on the field were made look slow and averagely slow and that was our problem."

He continued: "It is all about a structure that needs to be put into place so we can breed bigger, stronger, more physical and faster players with hurling ability so we can compete. I can't balme any of the players of anything that they haven't done, it is just simply something that needs to be done to benefit Antrim hurling."


Send the best camogs out to Jamaica, is that it?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 12:21:18 PM
I'd be happy enough to give up my time to go over to Jamaica and oversee the project!!!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
He has a point Johnney, we certainly (Antrim) don't have big skillful mobile players, We'd need 15 players of the size and ability of the likes of NMcM. Elliot, twice in yesterdays game had a run at the Clare defence, twice he was caught, Elliot is quick, one of the quickest I've seen, but very light and physically not up to the demands of intercounty hurling, yet.

As for breeding, It's more about developing our teams and insuring that all the players on those development squads work on there personal strengthening and conditioning.

If I had to do it all again I'd have hit the gym, not blessed with height I'd would have at least worked on the areas that would have greatly improved my game. I don't think we have enough players who buy into playing for the county, end of. Look at Donegal Antrim beat them a few seasons ago, similar team to yesterday but they all do their own training plus county training they have bought into Jim's plans and stick to it. When an Antrim team goes out with that attitude then we might be able to compete.......... might!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 27, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
He has a point Johnney, we certainly (Antrim) don't have big skillful mobile players, We'd need 15 players of the size and ability of the likes of NMcM. Elliot, twice in yesterdays game had a run at the Clare defence, twice he was caught, Elliot is quick, one of the quickest I've seen, but very light and physically not up to the demands of intercounty hurling, yet.

As for breeding, It's more about developing our teams and insuring that all the players on those development squads work on there personal strengthening and conditioning.

If I had to do it all again I'd have hit the gym, not blessed with height I'd would have at least worked on the areas that would have greatly improved my game. I don't think we have enough players who buy into playing for the county, end of. Look at Donegal Antrim beat them a few seasons ago, similar team to yesterday but they all do their own training plus county training they have bought into Jim's plans and stick to it. When an Antrim team goes out with that attitude then we might be able to compete.......... might!!
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now you talking, we only think we are commited
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 02:40:48 PM
St Galls v Cushendall - depends on what St. Galls team shows up, if any  ;).  Dall by minimum 6

Shamrocks v Oisins - I'd have to fancy us to win this one, no surprise there then  :P . Shamrocks by 8

McQuillans v Cuchullains - I think Dunloy will win this one handy enough. 6 points

St. John's v Lamh Dhearg - johnnies by 4 or 5


I can't wait for this to start. My favourite time of the year.  :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
It would be great if they put all 4 matches on one after the other in Casement. You'd happily pay a tenner in to see that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
It would be great if they put all 4 matches on one after the other in Casement. You'd happily pay a tenner in to see that
Agh, but sure they can charge £8 a match by having them all at different times at different venues. More money for the coffers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 27, 2012, 03:07:20 PM
How'd the Lucan game go SIE, they were slow to arrive yesterday and I couldnt hang aroud any longer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 03:21:47 PM
I'd have liked to go to 3 of the 4 matches but given that for the wife and I your looking 48 quid at the gate as well and about 40 quid on petrol its gonna be an expensive weekends hurling. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 27, 2012, 03:25:39 PM
These games should most likely all be £5 admission as that was the price for the football quarter-finals (including any double headers).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 27, 2012, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
It would be great if they put all 4 matches on one after the other in Casement. You'd happily pay a tenner in to see that

You could fit the people travelling from North Antrim to watch St Johns v Lamh Dhearg in a phone box.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 04:46:47 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 27, 2012, 03:07:20 PM
How'd the Lucan game go SIE, they were slow to arrive yesterday and I couldnt hang aroud any longer.
Won handy enough. 1-25 - 1-12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 27, 2012, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 02:48:44 PM
It would be great if they put all 4 matches on one after the other in Casement. You'd happily pay a tenner in to see that

You could fit the people travelling from North Antrim to watch St Johns v Lamh Dhearg in a phone box.
Remember those?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
Aye you could fit them in a phone box, but if the game happened to be on as part of a double header I'd have went to it, its still a hurling match like!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2012, 07:18:23 PM
Comin to this a bit late lads I know but was talking to a few boys about the U21 side. Was trying to get a handle on what the strongest side could have been if everyone committed but hard to no for sure players who are still in the age grade. Can anyone shed some light on this? What would be the best side available.

Also, I fancy all the chanpionship games to be handy wins for the favourites - with only the balky date dunloy game tight. Really can't call this I have only see dunloy hurl once this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 27, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 27, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2012, 12:31:38 PM
He has a point Johnney, we certainly (Antrim) don't have big skillful mobile players, We'd need 15 players of the size and ability of the likes of NMcM. Elliot, twice in yesterdays game had a run at the Clare defence, twice he was caught, Elliot is quick, one of the quickest I've seen, but very light and physically not up to the demands of intercounty hurling, yet.

As for breeding, It's more about developing our teams and insuring that all the players on those development squads work on there personal strengthening and conditioning.

If I had to do it all again I'd have hit the gym, not blessed with height I'd would have at least worked on the areas that would have greatly improved my game. I don't think we have enough players who buy into playing for the county, end of. Look at Donegal Antrim beat them a few seasons ago, similar team to yesterday but they all do their own training plus county training they have bought into Jim's plans and stick to it. When an Antrim team goes out with that attitude then we might be able to compete.......... might!!
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now you talking, we only think we are commited
And some of them only think they are hurlers.  It takes more than commitment ya know!  What about physical and moral courage, being prepared to die for a team mate, putting club rivalry aside, eagerness to win and wear the Jersey, avoiding going on the piss, bulking up, speeding up, enhancing physical/technical skill, prepared to give your all?????  Anyone less than 5'11" need not apply.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Lads, dunloy will win.  I really don't understand how anyone could think anything else. dunloy are a championship team. They proved that 3 years ago against the odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
SIE dd the town not turn dunloy over in loughiel some years back?
Never rule them out but I agree dunloy favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 27, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
SIE dd the town not turn dunloy over in loughiel some years back?
Never rule them out but I agree dunloy favourites.
"some years back" being the operative phrase. They should have beaten them in loughgiel in 2009 but didn't. And what happened that year? All I'm saying is dunloy are a better team than their league form shows. Ballycastle are a long way off yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 27, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8

There are a few double headers involving the other championships.

http://antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/

Does seem a little strange not grouping a couple of the senior games together though.

Johnnies by 10
Dall by 11
Dunloy by 6
Loughgeil by 15

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 28, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8

There are a few double headers involving the other championships.

http://antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/

Does seem a little strange not grouping a couple of the senior games together though.

Johnnies by 10
Dall by 11
Dunloy by 6
Loughgeil by 15

Terrible news that the SHC games will have to share the stage with IHC and JHC, I really hope the stylists aren't tainted and learn any bad habits from the little leaguers :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
You'll see more county hurlers playing IHC & JHC :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
You'll see more county hurlers playing IHC & JHC :P

Aye, I know, cant wait till Sunday.  Bring it on. :D

Who is D. McGrath, doing the Ossians v Shamrocks game?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 28, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
You'll see more county hurlers playing IHC & JHC :P

Aye, I know, cant wait till Sunday.  Bring it on. :D

Who is D. McGrath, doing the Ossians v Shamrocks game?



From st galls, hung like a donkey!!! Mans a legend, Ron Jeremy nothing on this guy, I shit you not!

hanging around the shower area looking at a mans weaponry certainly would turn you into a lonely1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 28, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 09:13:48 AM
You'll see more county hurlers playing IHC & JHC :P

Aye, I know, cant wait till Sunday.  Bring it on. :D

Who is D. McGrath, doing the Ossians v Shamrocks game?



From st galls, hung like a donkey!!! Mans a legend, Ron Jeremy nothing on this guy, I shit you not!

hanging around the shower area looking at a mans weaponry certainly would turn you into a lonely1.
Maybe his experience does not come from the 'shower area' ?  A very random and inappropriate contribution from Lonely1.  Can we block postings such as this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 20, 2012, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 20, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
AHHHH MR2 I had you down as a fair judge, just shows ya ;)

A fair judge of what? Seen him referee a few times, Has refereed games I've played in and been manager of, no complaints

No complaints at this end either from the games I have seen him referee.

What is your issue with him MIBAG? Are you a referee yourself given the name? (not sure if this has been confirmed in the past).
Of course he is a referee, sure everybody knows that.  An impartial, unbiased referee, well that's another question.?Although, to be fair, there would nae be too many referees in this county, if you get my drift,  who are straight, unbiased or who do not have an axe to grind! Self opinionated, egotistical bunch of individuals, if you ask me.  Like to hog the limelight and feel they are more important than the game IMO. But hey, we need the all the same  :D

I wonder what the odds are this year for the county final, not too far away:
Now If I was Paddy Power!

Hasson  - 5/4
Elliott - 7/2
Duffy - 5/1
Herbie - 7/1
Cunning - 9/1 (how many N's in CNUT?)
MIBAG - ????
F T - 20/1
Reilly - 100/1  (600/1  - If Rossa had reached the Final)
MR2 - Jury out on you MR2, could not rely on your impartiality either I think ;)
Joe Compston - 300/1
Ger. Robinson - 1000/1

Betting Update:

Elliott evs (that's if he is not blowing the girls) Camogs
Hasson 3/1 (assuming he's available, and MIBAG does not object)
Duffy 9/2 (providing he does not have a hair appointment)
MIBAG 5/1
Cunning 4/1 (still a CNUT) (but if Dunloy don't make final 2/1)
Herbie 7/1 (Cushendall would not be happy)
McGrath 10/1 (a rising star) by the looks of things (I don't have a notion regarding his credentials)
Reilly 2000/1 (candidate for the most unpopular person in Ireland)
Joe Compston 3000/1 (well, Junior Final maybe)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Winker starting to find your abuse of the Referee's completely tiresome do you think a volunteer should have their name dragged down on this forum the way you are constantly doing so?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
This thread is brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Winker starting to find your abuse of the Referee's completely tiresome do you think a volunteer should have their name dragged down on this forum the way you are constantly doing so?
I'm just joshing NAG, just joshing!  But maybe a bit too close to home for Dunloy people.  OK, Cunning 150/1  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 02:05:56 PM
Ah ffs lads just having a bit of crac, although his nick name is Ron Jeremy !!!!  He's a great lad, salt of the earth and I hope he has a great game come saturday, I'm sure there will be posters on this site that will educate us all come sat afternoon.

Winker3761 you need to check those odds with mr2, your looking a bit exposed on those prices ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
Nothing to do with being close to home, I have always said that on here that we can have personal opinions on what goes on in Antrim hurling but I have always said that we shouldnt be personally insulting people, no matter if that is a ref or a player or whatever their role is.

This is supposed to be a bit of craic where like minded people discuss hurling not to be slating any one.

Those are the types of posts that the Antrim Administrator uses to bash this board with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
My money is on mibag, I'll bet he will be the one on the pitch on county final day!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 02:13:55 PM
Antrim referee`s are shite. FACT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 02:13:55 PM
Antrim referee`s are shite. FACT

And your a daft cnt! Crawl back to your sht hole, forever a p***k more like it, stick to general discussion board with eastenders and corrie, you know fck all about gaa!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 02:13:55 PM
Antrim referee`s are shite. FACT

And your a daft cnt! Crawl back to your sht hole, forever a p***k more like it

No need for the nastiness

p***k
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
There always is with dumb fcks like you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 02:25:14 PM
No wonder you`re lonely, you don`t seem very nice

Reported
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
Nothing to do with being close to home, I have always said that on here that we can have personal opinions on what goes on in Antrim hurling but I have always said that we shouldnt be personally insulting people, no matter if that is a ref or a player or whatever their role is.

This is supposed to be a bit of craic where like minded people discuss hurling not to be slating any one.

Those are the types of posts that the Antrim Administrator uses to bash this board with.
I think there is a fair amount of slating directed at some individuals.  I would not worry however about the County Administrator, sure it's only McSparrow, and he is a hasbeen anyway.

But fair dues, apologies I have caused you offence ;)  That boy Lonely1, I don't care too much for his language (most foul) all the same.  I think I will exercise my right to report him to the power/s that be!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
Nothing to do with being close to home, I have always said that on here that we can have personal opinions on what goes on in Antrim hurling but I have always said that we shouldnt be personally insulting people, no matter if that is a ref or a player or whatever their role is.

This is supposed to be a bit of craic where like minded people discuss hurling not to be slating any one.

Those are the types of posts that the Antrim Administrator uses to bash this board with.
I think there is a fair amount of slating directed at some individuals.  I would not worry however about the County Administrator, sure it's only McSparrow, and he is a hasbeen anyway.

But fair dues, apologies I have caused you offence ;)  That boy Lonely1, I don't care too much for his language (most foul) all the same.  I think I will exercise my right to report him to the power/s that be!

No offence caused, guess I should have remembered the old saying about getting into an argument/ discussion with.......      ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
Maybe his experience does not come from the 'shower area' ?  A very random in inappropriate contribution from Lonely1.  Can we block postings such as this?

but it's alright for you
Ah no, not another Dunloy person with an axe to grind  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
Lads I'm on the watch list, forever green took a swipe at the refs and I have been reprimanded for my replies, like the old saying " touts beware" must be on my best behaviour now, should have took those tablets this morning!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2012, 03:48:35 PM
lol

I can assure you I never reported you and I don`t care for the accusations being thrown my way here

Reported
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on August 28, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Pm me and we can have a proper chat FG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 04:21:43 PM
If we are in the final I'd rather Herbie than Hasson. Sure its Loughgiel who don't like Herbie :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 28, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Fed up reading about referees......boring, boring, boring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2012, 06:55:51 PM
Jesus lads things go off the rails today! Why don't you just leave the referee issue alone, I'm sure you'll have enough amo after the weekend, as per usual they will have cost such and such the game! I will say our hurling refs are the best we have in the county, the football lads are seriously poor from what I've seen over the past few weeks. Winker3716 you miss me, I'll take your odds all day, I'm going for this:

Hasson- semi final
Elliott- semifinal
Herbie- Final
Mibag- on the pitch on final day! ;)
Duffy- getting a spray tan, and colonic irrigation with a pedicure ;D

Shams v Dall in the final, Dall by 2 Shane Mc N to be the match winner!

How's that for a prediction ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 28, 2012, 07:57:22 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on August 28, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Fed up reading about referees......boring, boring, boring.
I could not agree more.  Basically, I hate referees, as much as we need them, just love playing with their egos, thats all.  ;) :D

So full of their own self importance.  The Elliot boy as an example, he just loves the ground he walks on.  Absolutely amazes me how he gets such a repuatation as a senior referee.  Seriously though, who is likely to get the county final?  I have not he faintest idea really,but I have a notion that one or two potential candidates would not be preferred by the possible finalists :-X  That's why I would root for Hasson, brings no baggage to the party!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2012, 08:52:58 PM
You're fed up reading about refs so you write about them instead??

Who's favourites for intermediate this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 08:56:34 PM
I hear the loughgiel team has been over enjoying the fair, lack of respect for Glenariffe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 29, 2012, 02:26:11 AM
From a junior player i do feel that the stardard of ref is lower than down south, but so in most respects is the standard of player, if you think your hard done bye as having the best of what weve got to ref the games then wise up as they are good, try being div 4 and getting the guy that has been handcuffed by his club to do a job just to secure them home games. i mean no disrespect to any referee but i know this happens. think if we want the type of reffing that we so want ( from the south ) then we need to get our game up to scratch, dont blame the refs.


rant over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2012, 06:22:05 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2012, 08:56:34 PM
I hear the loughgiel team has been over enjoying the fair, lack of respect for Glenariffe?
::)  same shit, different year.

The loughgiel vs Glenariffe game is at 3pm on Saturday in Armoy, not 7 as publicised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2012, 08:01:54 AM
Not the same shit SIE, its usually our boys at it ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 29, 2012, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 29, 2012, 02:26:11 AM
From a junior player i do feel that the stardard of ref is lower than down south, but so in most respects is the standard of player, if you think your hard done bye as having the best of what weve got to ref the games then wise up as they are good, try being div 4 and getting the guy that has been handcuffed by his club to do a job just to secure them home games. i mean no disrespect to any referee but i know this happens. think if we want the type of reffing that we so want ( from the south ) then we need to get our game up to scratch, dont blame the refs.


rant over
Well said Gizzy, very pertinent observation imo.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Lads, dunloy will win.  I really don't understand how anyone could think anything else. dunloy are a championship team. They proved that 3 years ago against the odds.

what is it makes a championship team?

but can't argue with  'dunloy will win'. they beat theTown easy in the league.

St. Galls V Cushendall    The Dall by 10 if its right that St Galls are concentratin on football
Loughgeil V Glenarriffe   The Shams by 12 or more
St. Johns V Lamh Dearg Johnnies by 8
Ballycastle V Dunloy       sorry to say Dunloy by 8/10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
Black&Amber your very down on your own team, any outfit with Hippy, Neil Mc Auley, Pinky & Cosey at least have a fighting chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 28, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8

There are a few double headers involving the other championships.

http://antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/

Does seem a little strange not grouping a couple of the senior games together though.

Johnnies by 10
Dall by 11
Dunloy by 6
Loughgeil by 15

Terrible news that the SHC games will have to share the stage with IHC and JHC, I really hope the stylists aren't tainted and learn any bad habits from the little leaguers :o

Wasn't criticising, just thought it strange. Chill.

My thoughts on the little leaguers...for what they are worth.

Intermediate:
Gorts v Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 6, appear on a high with the football championship/hurling league leading
St Pauls v Rasharkin - St Pauls by 2. Should win easily but Rasharkin might put it up to them given its championship. If Geyser still playing then he's the man to stop for St Pauls.
Creggan v Cloughmills - Creggan by 6. Can't seen past them with the McCanns and McKeown. Conor McCann to score a bagful.
Armoy v Randalstown - Armoy by 2/3. Will be a close game.

Junior
O'Donnells v St Endas - St Endas by 10. Full of stylists.
Cushendun v St Agnes - Cushendun by 5.
Ardoyne v Glenarm - Glenarm by 6. Don't appear to have been going well in league but might have too much.
McDermotts v Glenravel - Glenravel by 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 28, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8

There are a few double headers involving the other championships.

http://antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/

Does seem a little strange not grouping a couple of the senior games together though.

Johnnies by 10
Dall by 11
Dunloy by 6
Loughgeil by 15

Terrible news that the SHC games will have to share the stage with IHC and JHC, I really hope the stylists aren't tainted and learn any bad habits from the little leaguers :o

Wasn't criticising, just thought it strange. Chill.

My thoughts on the little leaguers...for what they are worth.

Intermediate:
Gorts v Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 6, appear on a high with the football championship/hurling league leading
St Pauls v Rasharkin - St Pauls by 2. Should win easily but Rasharkin might put it up to them given its championship. If Geyser still playing then he's the man to stop for St Pauls.Creggan v Cloughmills - Creggan by 6. Can't seen past them with the McCanns and McKeown. Conor McCann to score a bagful.
Armoy v Randalstown - Armoy by 2/3. Will be a close game.

Junior
O'Donnells v St Endas - St Endas by 10. Full of stylists.
Cushendun v St Agnes - Cushendun by 5.
Ardoyne v Glenarm - Glenarm by 6. Don't appear to have been going well in league but might have too much.
McDermotts v Glenravel - Glenravel by 7.

God help the referee who'll be doing this game!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 29, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
Black&Amber your very down on your own team, any outfit with Hippy, Neil Mc Auley, Pinky & Cosey at least have a fighting chance.

jj not meaning to put them down just what's real. 3/4 months ago would have given them a real chance but nearly evrything went wrong after the u21 final cept the game v the Dall. Think they put in a lot of hard work this year and got unlucky a bit. Next year maybe the luck will change  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 29, 2012, 04:08:12 PM
Any decent betting on this weekends games ?

Will lambs get close to Johnnies ?

I hear the new manager at St Galls has enticed some old faces back into the hurling fold so maybe we will get within 10 points :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
B&A you'd certainly have a better chance with Clarke playing, he was showing great form at the beginning of the year and he has the makings of a county hurler. He is the one guy Ballycastle have with real pace to compliment the big fellas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Lads, dunloy will win.  I really don't understand how anyone could think anything else. dunloy are a championship team. They proved that 3 years ago against the odds.

what is it makes a championship team?

but can't argue with  'dunloy will win'. they beat theTown easy in the league.

St. Galls V Cushendall    The Dall by 10 if its right that St Galls are concentratin on football
Loughgeil V Glenarriffe   The Shams by 12 or more
St. Johns V Lamh Dearg Johnnies by 8
Ballycastle V Dunloy       sorry to say Dunloy by 8/10
I'd suggest the fact they've won 11 championships in the last 20 years would make them a championship team b+a.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 29, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
B&A you'd certainly have a better chance with Clarke playing, he was showing great form at the beginning of the year and he has the makings of a county hurler. He is the one guy Ballycastle have with real pace to compliment the big fellas.

agree totally JJ  Clarke (and young McCaughan too) have real pace. Clarke has real skill as well and if he was playin hurling would for sure be a county player but he had an operation and the soccer has him. We were lucky mebbe even to get him for a while this year and I hear McCaughan mebbe goin the same way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 29, 2012, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Lads, dunloy will win.  I really don't understand how anyone could think anything else. dunloy are a championship team. They proved that 3 years ago against the odds.

what is it makes a championship team?

but can't argue with  'dunloy will win'. they beat theTown easy in the league.

St. Galls V Cushendall    The Dall by 10 if its right that St Galls are concentratin on football
Loughgeil V Glenarriffe   The Shams by 12 or more
St. Johns V Lamh Dearg Johnnies by 8
Ballycastle V Dunloy       sorry to say Dunloy by 8/10
I'd suggest the fact they've won 11 championships in the last 20 years would make them a championship team b+a.

wasn't doubtin Dunloy as a championship team SIE just askin what makes any team a championship team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on August 30, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
Lads I am a fairly active referee in the county, so no need to guess is he or isn't he? Getting well pissed off reading some of the dribble on the site, watch it all the time, sick of  lads having a go at the referee's, looking to contribute as positively as possible, but wont get into a slanging match, and will within reason be as straight as possible. Look forward to some healthy discussions and debate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 30, 2012, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 30, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
Lads I am a fairly active referee in the county, so no need to guess is he or isn't he? Getting well pissed off reading some of the dribble on the site, watch it all the time, sick of  lads having a go at the referee's, looking to contribute as positively as possible, but wont get into a slanging match, and will within reason be as straight as possible. Look forward to some healthy discussions and debate.

My goodness, not another one? Start a referees forum then, seems like they need to vent their spleen some way?

Is it Elliott, Herbie, Duffy, Cunning, Reilly, Robinson, McKeown, Fitzimmons, McGrath, Compston, Hasson, Trainor, McCaffrey, McPoland?  A straight talking referee, now there's a first don't you think? Go ahead, initiate a forum for referees, would be interesting I'd say  :D  MIBAG would have a field day on his proverbial soap box.  ??? :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 30, 2012, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 29, 2012, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 28, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 27, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on August 27, 2012, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
St. Johns V Lamh Dhearg Friday at 8.15pm in Casement

Loughgiel V Glenariffe Saturday at 7pm in Armoy

St. Galls V Ruairi Og Sunday at 2.30pm in Casement

Dunloy V Ballycastle Sunday at 6pm in Loughgiel

Well done our county board for arranging such a random set of fixtures over 3 days in different areas of the county just so as people have to cough up entrance fees 4 times. Why could we not have had a couple of double headers? St. Johns V Lamh's and Cushendall V St. Galls in Casement on Saturday evening and Loughgiel V Glenariffe and Dunloy V Ballycastle in Armoy/Cushendall/ Glenravel on Sunday? You couldn't make it up.

Are you sure they aren't double headed up with IHC or JHC games? Think there's plenty of those games aswell.

Dall by 10
Johnnies by 15
Ballycastle by 1 or 2
Lougheil by 8

There are a few double headers involving the other championships.

http://antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/

Does seem a little strange not grouping a couple of the senior games together though.

Johnnies by 10
Dall by 11
Dunloy by 6
Loughgeil by 15

Terrible news that the SHC games will have to share the stage with IHC and JHC, I really hope the stylists aren't tainted and learn any bad habits from the little leaguers :o

Wasn't criticising, just thought it strange. Chill.

My thoughts on the little leaguers...for what they are worth.

Intermediate:
Gorts v Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 6, appear on a high with the football championship/hurling league leading
St Pauls v Rasharkin - St Pauls by 2. Should win easily but Rasharkin might put it up to them given its championship. If Geyser still playing then he's the man to stop for St Pauls.Creggan v Cloughmills - Creggan by 6. Can't seen past them with the McCanns and McKeown. Conor McCann to score a bagful.
Armoy v Randalstown - Armoy by 2/3. Will be a close game.

Junior
O'Donnells v St Endas - St Endas by 10. Full of stylists.
Cushendun v St Agnes - Cushendun by 5.
Ardoyne v Glenarm - Glenarm by 6. Don't appear to have been going well in league but might have too much.
McDermotts v Glenravel - Glenravel by 7.

God help the referee who'll be doing this game!!!
Is it not one of your own club men MR2 - McCaffrey?  Sure to have his hands full with those Rasharkin boys?  I wonder will the powers that be in HQ be monitoring them. :-[  Either way their behaviour and that of there troublesome fans I'd say will be under the microscope.  But sure the Hasson clan have proven to be potential Petrocellis!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
Winker3716 your some crac, your know your referees I'll give you that.

Couldn't believe that St Brides from south Belfast who actively discouraged hurling in the south of the city actually proposed a member of the their club for the Minor Hurling Managers job, they must have proposed a 50% reduction in expenses, music to the county chairman's ears. Times they are a changing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 31, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
Winker3716 your some crac, your know your referees I'll give you that.

Couldn't believe that St Brides from south Belfast who actively discouraged hurling in the south of the city actually proposed a member of the their club for the Minor Hurling Managers job, they must have proposed a 50% reduction in expenses, music to the county chairman's ears. Times they are a changing.
If he thinks he can do it leave him at it, rather him than me. 16 to 18yr olds must be the most difficult group to take these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 31, 2012, 08:41:44 AM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
Winker3716 your some crac, your know your referees I'll give you that.

Couldn't believe that St Brides from south Belfast who actively discouraged hurling in the south of the city actually proposed a member of the their club for the Minor Hurling Managers job, they must have proposed a 50% reduction in expenses, music to the county chairman's ears. Times they are a changing.

Potential young doctors and barristers can be wielding hurls in case those little digits take a bit of a battering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 31, 2012, 09:01:20 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 31, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
Winker3716 your some crac, your know your referees I'll give you that.

Couldn't believe that St Brides from south Belfast who actively discouraged hurling in the south of the city actually proposed a member of the their club for the Minor Hurling Managers job, they must have proposed a 50% reduction in expenses, music to the county chairman's ears. Times they are a changing.
If he thinks he can do it leave him at it, rather him than me. 16 to 18yr olds must be the most difficult group to take these days.

Could not agree more...with Last Man. If you have been reading on here at all Maninthemiddle one thing all are in agreement with, together with the moderator on the county website is that we need more men/women to commit and give their time. Why do you have an issue with a man throwing his hat in the ring? Surely its up to the powers that be to make a decision on who the best candidate it. Give up the refereeing for a year and give it a rattle yourself if you have an issue.

Actively discouraged hurling...did they not have a senior team in the leagues a few years ago but folded. Do they not have some juvenile hurling amalgamation with some other teams?

No defending the club as I do not know them well but clear you have a chip on your shoulder about them.

To many chips on too many shoulders and until that stops we'll never take our hurling to the next level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2012, 12:41:03 PM
I wouldn't slant anyone for offering time to the county but if I was a st brigids man I think it's clear the club would need this individual more than the county.

I mean if st brigids are not fielding at any level maybe this expertise would be better printing hurling in the vast catchment they have at their disposal.

Ultimately that will benefit the county but charity begins at home and all that.

Unless that is - st brigids don't want hurling promoted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
Who is "this individual"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 07:26:31 AM
Winker3716 your some crac, your know your referees I'll give you that.

Couldn't believe that St Brides from south Belfast who actively discouraged hurling in the south of the city actually proposed a member of the their club for the Minor Hurling Managers job, they must have proposed a 50% reduction in expenses, music to the county chairman's ears. Times they are a changing.
I know them quite well, not personally though but have endured their some standard performances for numerous years now.  One thing I will say though, Antrim hurling referees  in my experience, do not perform to the levels expected in a fast moving, skillfull and physical game.  In many respects though , that has probably more to do with the way many of our clubs are more focused on damaging an individual/s player/s at the local derby stages.  More about the man than either the ball or the game.  Sad as this maybe, one of the key elements which continues to impact on Antrim hurling's progression and ability to compete at the higher levels of the game.  I told you I was radical!  Some of the referees, are good enough ads I suppose, giving their time etc.  But many are severe egotists and power freaks, want to be the centre of attention in courting the limelight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 31, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
I'm quite sure that anyone who wants to put his name forward for refereeing [or indeed as a refereeing assessor] would be welcomed with open arms!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 31, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
I'm quite sure that anyone who wants to put his name forward for refereeing [or indeed as a refereeing assessor] would be welcomed with open arms!
Are you nuts man?  What if you got a Rasharkin match, sure the CIA/FBI would not be able to cover ur back.  Look what happened to poor Mathews, and then subsequently shafted big time by the county.  Probably one of our better referees at that.  Eddie Fitz would even turn down a Rasharkin game.  :D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
Should we have a "bitch about Antrim hurling referees" thread independent of this one?? Getting ridiculous at this point  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2012, 03:22:59 PM
As I said last week ITG totally tiresome, yet to offer an opinion on anything hurling related other than santer about refs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 31, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Meanwhile, I reckon Lámh Dhearg are going to turn the Johnnies over tonight.
Ah hell HS, don't be saying that, I have a quad done with Mr. P. Power - St. Johns, Cushendal, Dunloy and Shamrocks.  I certainly would not want to fall at the first hurdle. ;D

As much I would love to see them turn the Johnny's over, I really don't think so!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 31, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Meanwhile, I reckon Lámh Dhearg are going to turn the Johnnies over tonight.

You could be right. Need one upset this weekend - can't see any in the other games unless st galls pull something out though sounds unlikely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2012, 05:01:55 PM
Really doubt that HS dunno why u would think that?
Town to do dunloy only chance of upset.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 05:22:10 PM
Christ lads I need to get a job in the civil service, Im glad I have created such a stir, Winker fair play to you, I get a laugh when I read the posts. We are always easy to have a pop at, I grant you that, but most of the lads I know give a massive amount of time to doing 2,3,4 games a week listening to players managers supporters BS about the rules which they haven't a clue about, but learned when they where juveniles. Waiting months on expenses, bringing umpires,  lads again calling it as they see it and getting dogs abuse from everyone as well. Listening to the same old rhetoric down south they do this, down south they wouldn't blow that, down south that would shaft the north in two seconds given half a chance, so save it for the pitch, or sideline. The poor quality of referees lies with the county and referees committee who don't put any time or investment at all into the referee's so when you get on your soap box have a go at the county executive or Paddy Quinn or Tommy Mc Intyre ( there's enough having a go at Frankie) and leave the men in the middle alone for a while.

Go along to casement tonight or Armoy tomorrow and listen for a change to the pure BS spewed  by Managers players and supporters at one man, that's big of them isnt it.  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on August 31, 2012, 05:22:10 PM
Christ lads I need to get a job in the civil service, Im glad I have created such a stir, Winker fair play to you, I get a laugh when I read the posts. We are always easy to have a pop at, I grant you that, but most of the lads I know give a massive amount of time to doing 2,3,4 games a week listening to players managers supporters BS about the rules which they haven't a clue about, but learned when they where juveniles. Waiting months on expenses, bringing umpires,  lads again calling it as they see it and getting dogs abuse from everyone as well. Listening to the same old rhetoric down south they do this, down south they wouldn't blow that, down south that would shaft the north in two seconds given half a chance, so save it for the pitch, or sideline. The poor quality of referees lies with the county and referees committee who don't put any time or investment at all into the referee's so when you get on your soap box have a go at the county executive or Paddy Quinn or Tommy Mc Intyre ( there's enough having a go at Frankie) and leave the men in the middle alone for a while.

Go along to casement tonight or Armoy tomorrow and listen for a change to the pure BS spewed  by Managers players and supporters at one man, that's big of them isnt it.  :-[
Can't go tonight, having to do Airport pick ups at Aldergrove.  Me Aunts/uncles cousins coming in for a wedding tomorrow, cant get to the Ossians v Shamrocks match either, but cert for Dunloy v the town on Sunday evening.  Quinn & Quinn, 2 idiots, McIntyre not that bad I suppose, don't know him well enough, although he was a half decent ref. - one that made the big stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
Should we have a "bitch about Antrim hurling referees" thread independent of this one?? Getting ridiculous at this point  :o
Just set one up for ya, but had to get a certain individuals permission.  Some get a little bit techy around here.  So, there ya go, enjoy the new refs thread, sure to be interesting. ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2012, 06:33:38 PM
Winker I'm Back, miss me? FFS MITM your getting our profession a bad name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
The work that Naomh Bríd is carrying out in South Belfast is to be commended. We regularly hear people on about how Belfast should be doing more to promote the GAA and how bad we are in this regard compared to Dublin. If we can capture the wealthy members of society in the south of the city then we are on the right road. So an success for Naomh Bríd IMO is to be welcomed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
Major Announcement on Casement Expected
Ulster GAA will make a major announcement in connection to the development of Casement Park Stadium Project on Monday 3rd September at 10am in Casement Park Social Club.

A number of important dignitaries including leading members of the Gaelic Athletic Association and representatives from the Department of Culture Arts and Leisure will be in attendance.

Jesus FQ will expect more brown envelopes than usual then!!!

Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
The work that Naomh Bríd is carrying out in South Belfast is to be commended. We regularly hear people on about how Belfast should be doing more to promote the GAA and how bad we are in this regard compared to Dublin. If we can capture the wealthy members of society in the south of the city then we are on the right road. So an success for Naomh Bríd IMO is to be welcomed.

Promote what Cityslicker11 their own we agenda for taking over the county, you must be a stoop down low man, come on or daddy is ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2012, 07:25:03 PM
That is exactly the type of backwards thinking that has in the place we are in at the minute. Look at the football team, our best players comes from this club and played there all his life, this is the sort of potential they can provide. Yes there may be some aspects to their club that I do not agree with, but I believe that Antrim need a strong Naomh Bríd, especially at underage level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 31, 2012, 07:40:02 PM
Good luck to all 8 teams this weekend with good hard fair hurling and good refereing and hope the best teams win.

Hurlings the only game for us all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2012, 09:06:30 PM
St Johns 0-13 Lamh Dhearg 2-04 at half time in casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 31, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
1-22 to 2-10 to St Johns. bigger win than i expected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on August 31, 2012, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 31, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
Major Announcement on Casement Expected
Ulster GAA will make a major announcement in connection to the development of Casement Park Stadium Project on Monday 3rd September at 10am in Casement Park Social Club.

A number of important dignitaries including leading members of the Gaelic Athletic Association and representatives from the Department of Culture Arts and Leisure will be in attendance.

Jesus FQ will expect more brown envelopes than usual then!!!

Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 31, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
The work that Naomh Bríd is carrying out in South Belfast is to be commended. We regularly hear people on about how Belfast should be doing more to promote the GAA and how bad we are in this regard compared to Dublin. If we can capture the wealthy members of society in the south of the city then we are on the right road. So an success for Naomh Bríd IMO is to be welcomed.

Promote what Cityslicker11 their own we agenda for taking over the county, you must be a stoop down low man, come on or daddy is ;D
Absolutely disgraceful.  Very slanderous and disparaging remarks about a county officer. :-[ :-[ ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2012, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 31, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
1-22 to 2-10 to St Johns. bigger win than i expected.

I expected the Johnnies to be winning by a lot more in fairness, If they could get the right blend with the older and younger players they could do well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 01, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2012, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 31, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
1-22 to 2-10 to St Johns. bigger win than i expected.

I expected the Johnnies to be winning by a lot more in fairness, If they could get the right blend with the older and younger players they could do well.

I agree with you MR2. I seen Lamh Dearg in a league match about 6 weeks ago and they looked far from a senior championship team. Of course they could have been missing a few that day and would have been fired up last night but still i though St Johns would have won by a lot more.

By my reckoning its 1996 since Ballycastle beat Dunloy in the championship but open to correction on that. Fair to say Dunloy not as strong as they were but will be hard to beat them. Theres a fair few multiple championship winning players in their ranks. But after not turning up in the semi-final last year im just hoping Ballycastle, at a minimum, can put in a performance tomorrow night. Who knows after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 01, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
FH, Ballycastle would need to get off to a good start and get the rub of the green but I certainly don't think winning is beyond them, they'll need a low scoring game to prevail so conditions could be key.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
I'm just about to head off for a day's hurling and beer later.  :) 

Good luck to everyone this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 02:34:56 PM
Blowing a feckin gale as usual in Armoy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 02:34:56 PM
Blowing a feckin gale as usual in Armoy.

Can't make it so would appreciate any updates, unless it gets out of hand  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
No major changes to the loughgiel team apart from Tony McCloskey starting in midfield in place of duck, according to the program anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Loughgiel 1-10 Glenariffe 2-5 HT

Loughgiel a strong breeze in their favour in second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 04:25:32 PM
Loughgiel 2-25 Glenariffe 4-10 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 05:04:42 PM
Winker didn't start, came on as a sub and got a goal. I lost my data connection so couldn't update. our defence was ropey enough at times today. Gave away 3 easily preventable goals. They'd need to sharpen up a bit for the semi. there's still a couple of gears to find before I'd be confident of winning a championship.

I think it finished 2-26 minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 05:48:19 PM
reckon the wrong team fnished with 14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 05:56:55 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 05:48:19 PM
reckon the wrong team fnished with 14
could've finished with 14 each alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 01, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
It wasn't one of the Mc Donnell's it was Mark Nulty the full back. 2-26 was some scoring in any game but Loughgiel will be worried about 3 of the 4 goals they let in. Their full back line looked dodgy at times and they might have been in bother against a strong full forward line. Barney Mc Auley had another super game, must have scored 5 or 6 from play from mid-field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 01, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
It wasn't one of the Mc Donnell's it was Mark Nulty the full back. 2-26 was some scoring in any game but Loughgiel will be worried about 3 of the 4 goals they let in. Their full back line looked dodgy at times and they might have been in bother against a strong full forward line. Barney Mc Auley had another super game, must have scored 5 or 6 from play from mid-field.
well there ya go, I thought it was no. 11 or 13. Time for spec savers.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 01, 2012, 07:46:17 PM
The Glenariff full back was sent off on the say so of the umpire, Speedy McCaffrey, which I don't think I have seen before in Antrim.

Neilly McGarry is there to be cleaned out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
Neilly had a bad day at the office, he was due one.hopefully that's it out of his system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 01, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Glenarrife seem to have performed better than Rossa did SIE / minder?
Just trying to look at some form for the leave fixture in 2weeks.
How are your boys shaping up HS?
Didn't get to the johnnies v ld game - who did the scoring?
Ballycastle are 15/8 to beat dunloy tomorrow mr2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2012, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 01, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
Glenarrife seem to have performed better than Rossa did SIE / minder?
Just trying to look at some form for the leave fixture in 2weeks.
How are your boys shaping up HS?
Didn't get to the johnnies v ld game - who did the scoring?
Ballycastle are 15/8 to beat dunloy tomorrow mr2?

Tempting bet to say the least, but will leave it. Kerry ladies was the bet of the day!!!

Will the Johnnies give Loughgiel anything to worry about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 01, 2012, 08:20:36 PM
Depends on how loughiel approach it but it they apply themselves it will be a cricket score.
No chance of finishing 15a-side either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
 Glenariffe played really well towards the end of the first half. it was pretty sporadic the rest of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
Glenariffe played really well towards the end of the first half. it was pretty sporadic the rest of the game.

It was the same last year against Cushendall, we don't have the quality to trouble the top teams for the full 60 minutes but we can be pretty competitive, they are a determined bunch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
Neilly had a bad day at the office, he was due one.hopefully that's it out of his system.

Not sure about being due one, taking into consideration his Rossa performance he is now due a good one.

thought the crowd would have been a little bigger but i suppose timing of the game on saturday and lot of people still doing whatever !

armoy pitch super though

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!

Except it wasn't !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!

tony i feel you should wind the neck in a little, the guy was Mark Nulty had a spell with the county i believe.  felt it was harsh, his body language walking off showed total dejection.  Speedy has that effect on people, think he wanted his little cameo role

SIE who do you fancy for the dunloy ballycastle game tomorrow ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!

tony i feel you should wind the neck in a little, the guy was Mark Nulty had a spell with the county i believe.  felt it was harsh, his body language walking off showed total dejection.  Speedy has that effect on people, think he wanted his little cameo role

SIE who do you fancy for the dunloy ballycastle game tomorrow ??
Dunloy by 5 - 8 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 01, 2012, 09:27:14 PM
50% of my quad up, Johnnies, Loughgeil. Come on the Dall and the Town  ;D ;)

Great result for the Shamrocks despite conceding 4 goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 01, 2012, 09:27:14 PM
50% of my quad up, Johnnies, Loughgeil. Come on the Dall and the Town  ;D ;)

Great result for the Shamrocks despite conceding 4 goals.

What were those prices, 1/5 & 1/20?
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Post by: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!

tony i feel you should wind the neck in a little, the guy was Mark Nulty had a spell with the county i believe.  felt it was harsh, his body language walking off showed total dejection.  Speedy has that effect on people, think he wanted his little cameo role

SIE who do you fancy for the dunloy ballycastle game tomorrow ??
Dunloy by 5 - 8 points.

will be very interested to see if you are right, feel out of the underdogs that it is the Town who will give a team the biggest fright.

haven't heard much about them and the results haven't been overly impressive but they will give this one hell of a rip.

if they have the full line up ie Clarke young jennings and the old brigade i pinky cosie etc  i think they might just pull off a little surprise.

however haven't seen or heard much about Dunloy but i think a semi final with them and the Dall would be a treat and both would be foaming at the mouth to sort out the Shams in a final
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Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
Winker you may take the rose tinted glasses off, the all Ireland champions letting in 4 goals against a division 2 team can hardly be deemed a good performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
Winker you may take the rose tinted glasses off, the all Ireland champions letting in 4 goals against a division 2 team can hardly be deemed a good performance.
I agree, I said before the championship that Cushendall should be favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 10:01:06 AM
Very good SIE. The All Ireland champions will always be favorites, until someone knocks them off their perch!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 10:03:04 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 10:01:06 AM
Very good SIE. The All Ireland champions will always be favorites, until someone knocks them off their perch!!!
Maybe in the bookies eyes. We'll know better after today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 02, 2012, 11:01:14 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 01, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
Who got lined and for what?
it was one of the McDonnells, I think it was for 2 yellows.
Being a McDonnell was a given!

tony i feel you should wind the neck in a little, the guy was Mark Nulty had a spell with the county i believe.  felt it was harsh, his body language walking off showed total dejection.  Speedy has that effect on people, think he wanted his little cameo role

SIE who do you fancy for the dunloy ballycastle game tomorrow ??
Dunloy by 5 - 8 points.

will be very interested to see if you are right, feel out of the underdogs that it is the Town who will give a team the biggest fright.

haven't heard much about them and the results haven't been overly impressive but they will give this one hell of a rip.

if they have the full line up ie Clarke young jennings and the old brigade i pinky cosie etc  i think they might just pull off a little surprise.

however haven't seen or heard much about Dunloy but i think a semi final with them and the Dall would be a treat and both would be foaming at the mouth to sort out the Shams in a final

Clark and Jennings both out and Micheal Dallat as well. On the plus Hippy is back and Ryan McGarry and Peter Dallat.

If we ahd them first three the Town would have a real good shot at Dunloy. I'd fancy them to win. but if my aunt had ............  ;D

Hope we give it a rattle and mebbe get lucky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2012, 11:08:46 AM
Imitation is the highest form of flattery Milltown. Everybody's at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 02, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:12:21 AM
Winker you may take the rose tinted glasses off, the all Ireland champions letting in 4 goals against a division 2 team can hardly be deemed a good performance.
Did I not say "a good performance DESPITE the 4 goals"  Hhhhmmmm.  ???  Don't wear glasses, nor rose tinted ones. Laser treatment lad, laser treatment!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 02:49:19 PM
Any updates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2012, 02:57:10 PM
Armoy v Randalstown going to extra time in IHC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2012, 02:58:13 PM
Can't find feck all. Should have just dandered up.
Twitter is dead too. Must be tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Just had a text from a mate. 2-9 to 2-4 to Dall at ht.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
3-09 - 2-07
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 04:07:32 PM
3-14 - 2-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
3-15 to 2-9 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 05:03:29 PM
Ht. Cloughmills 0-06  creggan 0-06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 05:20:19 PM
Biddies 5 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 02, 2012, 05:51:30 PM
Suspect Ballycastle will win this game tonight.strong big team.time will tell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2012, 06:04:17 PM
Jesus welcome back ruairi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 02, 2012, 06:48:42 PM
If  you dont have anything good to say, say nothing. I have been sticking to this philosophy.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
Just welcoming you back.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2012, 07:24:43 PM
Honestly fancied the town myself in that.  A 1 point defeat will be tough to take for them.  Dall v Dunloy.   Loughgiel v st johns.  Let's here the verdicts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 02, 2012, 07:27:26 PM
Happy days, QUAD UP!  Off to see Mr. Power in the morning, might even take the day off, and get pissed.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
Closer than you expected SIE?!

Shamrocks v johnnies will be men and boys.
Dall to beat dunloy but close enough.

Shamrocks to complete hat trick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 02, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
Closer than you expected SIE?!

Shamrocks v johnnies will be men and boys.
Dall to beat dunloy but close enough.

Shamrocks to complete hat trick.
A lot closer. ballycastle will be kicking themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 02, 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Dunloy didn't win that game.......we lost it  :(

Our boys have put it in this year, their commitment and attitude totally different to previous years.  They'll be back and be better for it.  Would like to see a Dall v Lgiel final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 02, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
hardly think the the dall or shams will be quaking in their boots.  Town did most of the hurling but didn't make it count.  Doubt the bench isn't the strongest if they watched that for as long.  with exception of young stoogie mcafee and to a lesser extent pinky they didn't really have forwards.  Cosie's confidence went with the frees and he was on the slide after that.  A shame he is a confidence player and has been tremendous servant to the town down the years.  Dunloy a far cry from yester year.

agree with btgtt shams v dall final, and if shams don't have some challenge between now and the final they could be caught.  Dall will get tightened by Dunloy though not by much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Was at 3 of the 4 quarter final matches. Loughgiel were always on top against Glenariff but will be concerned about letting in 4 goals. They have the luxury of a great subs bench and being able to bring in players the quality of Watson and Duck is a big plus, can't see St. Johns getting within 6 points of them. In the Cushendall V Galls game I'd be happy with the result and for 80% of the game the performance, just the 5 mins either side of half time we switched off. Marked improvement on last year when we robbed St. Galls down in Loughgiel. Ballycastle will be wondering how they got beat, they hurled Dunloy off the park from start to finish with Neil Mc Auley giving the performance of the weekend, he was brilliant. However Ballycastle's tactic of hitting in low ball from 50 and 60 yards out was their downfall, if you've a shooting chance from 60 yards or less you should always go for it. Dunloy were so so lucky to get out of it at all but I suppose a wins a win. Prediction Ruairi Og and Loughgiel to progress to the final and thats all I'm saying at this stage. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 02, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Was at 3 of the 4 quarter final matches. Loughgiel were always on top against Glenariff but will be concerned about letting in 4 goals. They have the luxury of a great subs bench and being able to bring in players the quality of Watson and Duck is a big plus, can't see St. Johns getting within 6 points of them. In the Cushendall V Galls game I'd be happy with the result and for 80% of the game the performance, just the 5 mins either side of half time we switched off. Marked improvement on last year when we robbed St. Galls down in Loughgiel. Ballycastle will be wondering how they got beat, they hurled Dunloy off the park from start to finish with Neil Mc Auley giving the performance of the weekend, he was brilliant. However Ballycastle's tactic of hitting in low ball from 50 and 60 yards out was their downfall, if you've a shooting chance from 60 yards or less you should always go for it. Dunloy were so so lucky to get out of it at all but I suppose a wins a win. Prediction Ruairi Og and Loughgiel to progress to the final and thats all I'm saying at this stage. ;)

wouldn't say they hurled us of the park. both teams where very poor. ballycastle still toothless up front but MC Auley was  best player on the field. as for us if we can hurl that bad and still win then i wouldn't be scared of the dall.If  we can turn it on next day and that's a big if. I thought the man in the middle was brutal tonight for both teams, he likes the sound of his whistle. completely disrupted the game stopping any flow. hard luck to Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 02, 2012, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 02, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Was at 3 of the 4 quarter final matches. Loughgiel were always on top against Glenariff but will be concerned about letting in 4 goals. They have the luxury of a great subs bench and being able to bring in players the quality of Watson and Duck is a big plus, can't see St. Johns getting within 6 points of them. In the Cushendall V Galls game I'd be happy with the result and for 80% of the game the performance, just the 5 mins either side of half time we switched off. Marked improvement on last year when we robbed St. Galls down in Loughgiel. Ballycastle will be wondering how they got beat, they hurled Dunloy off the park from start to finish with Neil Mc Auley giving the performance of the weekend, he was brilliant. However Ballycastle's tactic of hitting in low ball from 50 and 60 yards out was their downfall, if you've a shooting chance from 60 yards or less you should always go for it. Dunloy were so so lucky to get out of it at all but I suppose a wins a win. Prediction Ruairi Og and Loughgiel to progress to the final and thats all I'm saying at this stage. ;)

wouldn't say they hurled us of the park. both teams where very poor. ballycastle still toothless up front but MC Auley was  best player on the field. as for us if we can hurl that bad and still win then i wouldn't be scared of the dall.If  we can turn it on next day and that's a big if. I thought the man in the middle was brutal tonight for both teams, he likes the sound of his whistle. completely disrupted the game stopping any flow. hard luck to Ballycastle
C wat I mean about refs!  Loving the limelight, centre of attention, power freaks.  Plenty of yapping by your supporters and on the line.  Appears to be a common Dunloy trait, win lose or draw.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
St johns in casement could be completely different to st johns in maybe dunloy.   I'd have to give dall the win against a dying dunloy team. No hatred involved. Slowly but surely dying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2012, 09:55:06 PM
Any word on Conor Cunning? A great servant for Dunloy who has been unluck with a few bad injuries. Fingers crossed it ain't too bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 10:03:11 PM
I still have the Dall as favourites.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
Again... Very good SIE. Folks we thought Dunloy were dying a few years ago and they won the championship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2012, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
Again... Very good SIE. Folks we thought Dunloy were dying a few years ago and they won the championship!!
I said this about 4 or 5 months ago jj, which is why I'll never right off dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Yes jj I have to say I thought use would have pumped them in that final, but they are not even close to that team, and IMO that was a poor dunloy team, they have went back year after year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2012, 11:52:51 PM
Cushendall the better team this year no doubt, though very sluggish in parts and not as up for it as I would have thought. Took scores easy enough and while we had good periods in the match we should have scored more and let in less.

I predicted 10 point loss, but we battled hard enough and Cushedall didn't have it all their own way!!

Were the Dal players told to 'have a go' and the Galls lads every so often? Was like a signal from management to 'kick it off' Prep for Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 06:36:21 AM
Poor commemts MR2, sure your the ones got a man sent off for an real shocking tackle on our goalie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 07:21:00 AM
Which part was poor jj? Tackle on goal keeper was dreadfull. Though in fairness hes not a dirty player.

The players mentioned the jabbing in the ribs. And they said it (the call) came from the line. I was just putting it out there.

Be fair to say Dunloy would be happy to meet Cushendall rather than Loughgiel at this stage. Both teams will have had a decent game before final. Better prep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 03, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Congrats to Dunloy and hard luck to our boys. Neil McAuley was man of the match. Both defences on top really and that made it low scoring and squeeky bum time all the way. Guessing P Dallat must be injured and wonder how him or other injured boys like Clark or Jennings would have made a difference or M dallat. As well as them S McGarry and young Laverty still injured too so fingers crossed mebbe next year a lot of them will be back. Would'nt complain too much about our forwards tho cos McAfee and McLister and Pinky gave the Dunloy defence plenty to do Odd seein Neil in midfeild and Hippy in centre half too. Season over  now but whole squad worked hard and had some bad luck. Be hard for them to take today but they're better than they were last year.
Game was played in good way by both teams. Don't think there was any dirty slaps. Ref blew a lot for too many steps but was pretty much ok.
Can't see St Johns beatin Loughgeil. Dunloy will give Cushendall plenty to do but think the Dall will lose to the Shams in the final.

Any word on the Dunloy boy that got stretchered off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.

Cerainly something that should be addressed among a whole load of other things IMO, We where poor, very poor, but thankfully St Galls where equally as poor, was expecting more from them.

After watching 3 out of 4 games it most certainly IMHO is Loughgiels to lose this year (although conceding 4-10 will be worrying for them)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.

Cerainly something that should be addressed among a whole load of other things IMO, We where poor, very poor, but thankfully St Galls where equally as poor, was expecting more from them.

After watching 3 out of 4 games it most certainly IMHO is Loughgiels to lose this year (although conceding 4-10 will be worrying for them)

Anyways, it's better to be able to address something than not being in a position to do anything till next year :-[

Shane scored a cracking goal and and Karl in the first half took some good scores for Cushendall. Again Stewarty for us hurled the whole 60 minutes. Kieran McGourty was excellent and did well on NMcM, not sure how much Neil scored from play but we got out of the game what we put into training and preparation leading up to it. Fail to prepare.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.
Cerainly something that should be addressed among a whole load of other things IMO, We where poor, very poor, but thankfully St Galls where equally as poor, was expecting more from them.

After watching 3 out of 4 games it most certainly IMHO is Loughgiels to lose this year (although conceding 4-10 will be worrying for them)
Surely a team who can concede 4-10 and still win by 12 points, is not a bad team.  Why worry??  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Jabbing in the ribs? Tighten up a bit MR2, have you ever been at a senior championship match where this hasn't happened? I heard poor wee CJ yelping in the first half about getting pushed under a high ball. Maybe this is the problem with Galls hurlers, primadonna's.

I'm not complaining was just saying like :P

Would be worried that CJ was out catching your fullbacks JJ.
Cerainly something that should be addressed among a whole load of other things IMO, We where poor, very poor, but thankfully St Galls where equally as poor, was expecting more from them.

After watching 3 out of 4 games it most certainly IMHO is Loughgiels to lose this year (although conceding 4-10 will be worrying for them)
Surely a team who can concede 4-10 and still win by 12 points against 14 men, is not a bad team.  Why worry??  ;)

Which is why i said it was yours to lose this year. (i corrected your post btw  ;)  )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Yesterday after a slow enough first few minutes due to stoppages we got going but over complicated things. If we had kept it simple we would have been out of sight in first half. Instead of popping the ball over the bar we took too many touches and let St Galls get a few openings from the turnovers (penalty and a point).

As regards to any physical stuff I would say we weren't bad, just letting St Galls know they were in a game. All the wild strokes in the game came from St Galls as far as I could see- Karl Stewart on Karl McKeegan at the start, CJ On Sean Delargy which was very early, and also the one on the keeper from Anto Healy. I am glad we have came out unscathed and were able to use a few off the bench. I am not sure what happened Kevin McGourty as I never seen it. Himself and CJ gave all the officials serious abuse and were reported several times to the referee without any real action.

Went to the game in Loughgiel. Ballycastle looked sharp at the start and the two corner forwards looked as if they were going to cause serious damage. McLister started very well. He was starved of ball in the second half and all the ball went to Saul McCaughan who struggled as the game went on as Paudie Shivers got to grips with him. Strange from Ballycastle. The two Cunnings coming on helped Dunloy in the half forward line. Hopefully Conor is ok as he looked to be in discomfort as he was stretchered off. Big Paddy still has the touch of class even if the legs can't take him any more. Ballycastle missed some opportunities from frees as Cossie was off form. Serious one sided. Milltown if you want to see jabs in the ribs etc then you should have seen Cossie and Kevin McKeague who completely bullied Cossie. James McLister was lucky to stay on the pitch after a very wild pull when a Dunloy player was on the deck and also for a slap back when he was bottled up. Very stange decisions by Herbie who gave a hop ball for the first and done James for over carrying for the second.

I thought Neil McAuley was quite good but performance of the weekend for me had to be Karl Stewart who was immense again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 10:14:45 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Yesterday after a slow enough first few minutes due to stoppages we got going but over complicated things. If we had kept it simple we would have been out of sight in first half. Instead of popping the ball over the bar we took too many touches and let St Galls get a few openings from the turnovers (penalty and a point).

As regards to any physical stuff I would say we weren't bad, just letting St Galls know they were in a game. All the wild strokes in the game came from St Galls as far as I could see- Karl Stewart on Karl McKeegan at the start, CJ On Sean Delargy which was very early, and also the one on the keeper from Anto Healy. I am glad we have came out unscathed and were able to use a few off the bench. I am not sure what happened Kevin McGourty as I never seen it. Himself and CJ gave all the officials serious abuse and were reported several times to the referee without any real action.

Went to the game in Loughgiel. Ballycastle looked sharp at the start and the two corner forwards looked as if they were going to cause serious damage. McLister started very well. He was starved of ball in the second half and all the ball went to Saul McCaughan who struggled as the game went on as Paudie Shivers got to grips with him. Strange from Ballycastle. The two Cunnings coming on helped Dunloy in the half forward line. Hopefully Conor is ok as he looked to be in discomfort as he was stretchered off. Big Paddy still has the touch of class even if the legs can't take him any more. Ballycastle missed some opportunities from frees as Cossie was off form. Serious one sided. Milltown if you want to see jabs in the ribs etc then you should have seen Cossie and Kevin McKeague who completely bullied Cossie. James McLister was lucky to stay on the pitch after a very wild pull when a Dunloy player was on the deck and also for a slap back when he was bottled up. Very stange decisions by Herbie who gave a hop ball for the first and done James for over carrying for the second.

I thought Neil McAuley was quite good but performance of the weekend for me had to be Karl Stewart who was immense again.

Very Arsène Wenger like :o  Spoke to Kevin club after match, he claimed that Carson smacked him through helmet, as for letting us know we are in a game, well we knew that at the final whistle. Jabbing is not part of the game, can be put down as a deliberate stroke, if going by the rules 8) 

Fair to say that a team that trains properly will have a better chance than a team that puts in 3 training sessions before championship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 03, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 03, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Congrats to Dunloy and hard luck to our boys. Neil McAuley was man of the match. Both defences on top really and that made it low scoring and squeeky bum time all the way. Guessing P Dallat must be injured and wonder how him or other injured boys like Clark or Jennings would have made a difference or M dallat. As well as them S McGarry and young Laverty still injured too so fingers crossed mebbe next year a lot of them will be back. Would'nt complain too much about our forwards tho cos McAfee and McLister and Pinky gave the Dunloy defence plenty to do Odd seein Neil in midfeild and Hippy in centre half too. Season over  now but whole squad worked hard and had some bad luck. Be hard for them to take today but they're better than they were last year.
Game was played in good way by both teams. Don't think there was any dirty slaps. Ref blew a lot for too many steps but was pretty much ok.
Can't see St Johns beatin Loughgeil. Dunloy will give Cushendall plenty to do but think the Dall will lose to the Shams in the final.

Any word on the Dunloy boy that got stretchered off?

it was connor cunning, looks like his cruciate is gone again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 03, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 03, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Congrats to Dunloy and hard luck to our boys. Neil McAuley was man of the match. Both defences on top really and that made it low scoring and squeeky bum time all the way. Guessing P Dallat must be injured and wonder how him or other injured boys like Clark or Jennings would have made a difference or M dallat. As well as them S McGarry and young Laverty still injured too so fingers crossed mebbe next year a lot of them will be back. Would'nt complain too much about our forwards tho cos McAfee and McLister and Pinky gave the Dunloy defence plenty to do Odd seein Neil in midfeild and Hippy in centre half too. Season over  now but whole squad worked hard and had some bad luck. Be hard for them to take today but they're better than they were last year.
Game was played in good way by both teams. Don't think there was any dirty slaps. Ref blew a lot for too many steps but was pretty much ok.
Can't see St Johns beatin Loughgeil. Dunloy will give Cushendall plenty to do but think the Dall will lose to the Shams in the final.

Any word on the Dunloy boy that got stretchered off?

it was connor cunning, looks like his cruciate is gone again

That is crap, hope it's not as bad NAH
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 03, 2012, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 10:14:45 AM
he claimed that Carson smacked him through helmet, as for letting us know we are in a game, well we knew that at the final whistle. Jabbing is not part of the game, can be put down as a deliberate stroke, if going by the rules 8) 



ach MR2 shure is'nt that just good manly stuff?  :o

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2012/0820/334230-cody-its-a-very-satisfying-win/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 03, 2012, 11:19:07 AM
Good win for Loughgiel.

I know a few people have flagged up about us conceding four goals.  Blessing in my opinion.  There will no doubt be a big emphasis from DD & the 6 backs to address this and aim for a shut out against St. Johns + hopefully continue that through to the final if they get the right result. JC was a bit sloppy and lucky to stay on pitch.  No doubt there will be an improvement from the whole team the next day.

Cushendall workman-like. Agree they could of been out of sight in 1st half if they were a bit sharper.  Shane McNaughton as always brings a touch of class.  Will be hard for any team to work with him.

Ballycastle will be sick today, if they had someone to help young McCaughan they would of got over the line.  He tried his heart out but wasn't enough.  Neal McAuley was immense, great hurler.
KB McShane wasted few good chances for BC, he struggled to have any impact on game.

Dunloy will be happy with the win but similar to LG will see penty of things to work on going forward.

Didn't get to St Johns v Lamhs.

Does anybody know what weekends the Semi-Final / Final is pencilled in for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 03, 2012, 11:23:36 AM
Semi Finals fixed for 16th Sept. Final 30th Sept according to the county website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2012, 01:03:19 PM
The Dunloy vs Ballycastle was a 50/50 game lads. No team deserved to lose it but thats what happens in one point victories.

We played very nervous and lacked composure and it looked like the hangover from the last two years championship performances seemed to be lurking. I'm really glad we ground out the victory even if we didnt set the world on fire because they've played alot better than that in in the league so the potential to up our game is there.

Conor coming on made a massive impact. Brought a cool head into the proceedings when it was all a bit frantic up front and took two fantastic scores. Gutted for him if he's buggered his knee again as I doubt there'd be any way back for him at his age. A great servant to the club and hope he's not as bad as it looked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
No one any the wiser after the weekends games, still going to be all on the day between Cushendall and Dunloy. LG win the other semi final handy enough so it's as you were really.

MR2 I think maybe there is a perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship by your boys from other clubs, might explain some of the rougher treatment handed out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
No one any the wiser after the weekends games, still going to be all on the day between Cushendall and Dunloy. LG win the other semi final handy enough so it's as you were really.

MR2 I think maybe there is a perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship by your boys from other clubs, might explain some of the rougher treatment handed out.
To even suggest there is a "perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship! by a dual Belfast club, is really a bit rich coming from clubs whose primary focus is on hurling.  i.e Loughgeil, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Cushedall etc.

It may be difficult for you to appreciate and comprehend how a dual club like St.Galls encounters difficulties of a severe magnitude by participating in both codes.  Football is clearly their main focus and where they are mostly likely to achieve success.  However, they are facing up to their responsibilities of promoting and participating in both codes.  Does this give any individual or opposing club to criticise any club or use it as an excuse for" dishing out rough treatment" as you put it?  Catch yourself on man!   :o

In support of your comments though, I would think their would be a sizable queue forming in St. Galls to get a lash at two of the McGourtys anytime.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didn't get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didn't get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.

Did the bould Ronan get a run out? He must be pushing 40 or there abouts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didn't get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.

Where did you see me criticise?
Merely an observation on my part, three training sessions freely admitted by MR2, to me is a lack of respect to Cushendall and the competition. Totally get the reasons behind it but doesn't change my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 03, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didn't get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.

I did'nt know about that :-[ was wonderin what that was about. Had a hoke there after reading that and found this
QuoteIf in exceptional circumstances play is stopped
by the Referee to enable a seriously injured
player to be treated on the field or removed
from the field of play, play shall resume in one
of the following manners:-
(i) If a Team is in possession when the play
is stopped, the play shall resume with a
free puck to that Team from the position
at which the play was stopped, unless the
play was stopped inside the opponents'
20m line in which case the free shall be
awarded from the 20m line opposite the
point where the play was stopped. A score
may not be made directly from such free.

johnney Ronan did'nt play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Maybe if they had done ten sessions they might have won HS?

Point being that when they don't put the effort in and now they are looking for excuses, that they got roughly treated by Cushendall, there wont be any quarter asked or given next week in the football, but then again they have something to lose in that match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 02:16:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
That was a tight game last night, maybe not top drawer hurling but 2 evenly match teams. Ballycastle settled well after a shaky start and the half back line turned a lot of ball from about the 10th min on. However they didn't get the scores and ended up going in a point down at half time. Thought there were points for the taking throughout the game for Ballycastle but the game plan seemed to be get the ball in low to the full forward line instead. Its good to have a game plan but in a tight game like that when the points are there they need to be taken.

As the game got near the end I thought it was going to be a draw which would have been fair enough although I believe extra time would have been played in that case. Dunloy worked the indirect free very well to get the winning point so fair play to them for that.

We had 7 u21s and 1 minor starting last night so hopefully they can learn from it and improve over the next couple of years.

Where did you see me criticise?
Merely an observation on my part, three training sessions freely admitted by MR2, to me is a lack of respect to Cushendall and the competition. Totally get the reasons behind it but doesn't change my opinion.
To hell with your 'OBSERVATION' man!  You directly inferred St. Galls were getting a few lashes from Cushendall for showing them lack of respect, as they only trained 3 times prior to the championship clash with the Dall. You are certainly entitled to an opinion, but please do not be making ludicrous remarks as to how a club did or did not prepare for a championship bout against the Dall. Do the Dall warrant or command such respect that you allude to?  Maybe just as well St. Galls hurling was in turmoil this year,as you would then not be making such idiotic comments observations.  Enough said, I expect?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 03, 2012, 02:19:28 PM
Well said winker - nag are you serious?

I remember a prominant Antrim Hurling manager say a few years ago, that on paper  St.Galls had by far the strongest hurling team in the county.  Now granted, hurling isnt played on paper - but winkers comments must be noted.  They are running out of time though, i reckon they could probably win a championship.  Question is, do they wanna win it on paper, or on Casement Park!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
Lads at the end of the day St Galls have some great hurlers who won a lot of underage county titles in hurling at the expense of ourselves particularly and St Galls backboned county squads for years. Add that to last years showing then respect had to be given to them. What is the point in approaching Quarter Finals differently or not being prepared for the games.

This physical approach chat is OTT in my opinion but this a forum where opinions are expressed and I don't think anyone connected with our team will be too concerned about people thinking this. As I said, this was nothing compared to the clashes between Kevin McKeague and Malachy Dallas yesterday evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Maybe if they had done ten sessions they might have won HS?

Point being that when they don't put the effort in and now they are looking for excuses, that they got roughly treated by Cushendall, there wont be any quarter asked or given next week in the football, but then again they have something to lose in that match!

Read my posts NAG1, I said Cushendall were by far the better team and their scores came a lot easier than ours. That's down to training and application.

The roughing up wouldn't have made us play crap, we just don't put the effort in, very simple

Ones have mentioned we pulled dirty strokes, I said we did and wouldn't defend them, but when one of our players had to come off with a split nose we are are dirty players?? What was Neil booked for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
I would love our lads to take it seriously for two seasons, and when I mean serious I mean that they have a decent pre-season nothing crazy just a few decent sessions over Feb - March some friendlies and hit the season with most of your players available for all the games, One training session a week (well attended) and 6 weeks prior to Championship, sessions intensify. If we managed even that I'd say we'd be very competitive.

With the lads being older I'd say we've 2/3 seasons left, If they want to achieve something then that's what it will take.

That's not a wile lot FFS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 03:02:31 PM
It was Kevin Mc Gourty who had the blood on his hooter, he wasn't going to come off but the ref spotted the blood, he was blood subbed, got the hooter cleaned up and went back on again, hardly a bad injury. Kevin & CJ are far more talented than Ciaran but neither of them would have even near the same guts, heart and character as Ciaran. Someone was asking how much Mc Manus scored from play, 1-2 out of 1-5 from play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 03:02:31 PM
It was Kevin Mc Gourty who had the blood on his hooter, he wasn't going to come off but the ref spotted the blood, he was blood subbed, got the hooter cleaned up and went back on again, hardly a bad injury. Kevin & CJ are far more talented than Ciaran but neither of them would have even near the same guts, heart and character as Ciaran. Someone was asking how much Mc Manus scored from play, 1-2 out of 1-5 from play.

I asked what he'd scored, didn't take note during game.

Loughgiel are 4/5 for the Antrim Championship on Paddy Power
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
No one any the wiser after the weekends games, still going to be all on the day between Cushendall and Dunloy. LG win the other semi final handy enough so it's as you were really.

MR2 I think maybe there is a perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship by your boys from other clubs, might explain some of the rougher treatment handed out.
To even suggest there is a "perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship! by a dual Belfast club, is really a bit rich coming from clubs whose primary focus is on hurling.  i.e Loughgeil, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Cushedall etc.

It may be difficult for you to appreciate and comprehend how a dual club like St.Galls encounters difficulties of a severe magnitude by participating in both codes.  Football is clearly their main focus and where they are mostly likely to achieve success.  However, they are facing up to their responsibilities of promoting and participating in both codes.  Does this give any individual or opposing club to criticise any club or use it as an excuse for" dishing out rough treatment" as you put it?  Catch yourself on man!   :o

In support of your comments though, I would think their would be a sizable queue forming in St. Galls to get a lash at two of the McGourtys anytime.  ;)

Spot on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 03, 2012, 03:21:01 PM
Thank Fck your leaving the Referee's alone for a change boys, what i hear all 4 matches where below what was expected, in fairness it was effectively the 1st round, things take time, dunloy imo will improve the most from their encounter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 03, 2012, 03:21:01 PM
Thank Fck your leaving the Referee's alone for a change boys, what i hear all 4 matches where below what was expected, in fairness it was effectively the 1st round, things take time, dunloy imo will improve the most from their encounter.
that said MIBAG, the refereeing was sub standard also.  So, which game did you get? Obviously one of no significance!  ;) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: S Áine on September 03, 2012, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
No one any the wiser after the weekends games, still going to be all on the day between Cushendall and Dunloy. LG win the other semi final handy enough so it's as you were really.

MR2 I think maybe there is a perceived lack of respect to the hurling championship by your boys from other clubs, might explain some of the rougher treatment handed out.

There's no lack of respect at all. If anything the lack of respect is directed towards St Galls and other clubs who compete in both codes. Compare St Galls run in to the match yesterday with Cushendall. Two senior football championship fixtures, senior football league fixtures, minor championship, not even leaving one clear week to address hurling solely. Cushendall had an uncongested run of a few league fixtures and plenty of time in between to focus on preparation, perhaps including challange matches. Considering that 18 of the football panel also play hurling there is a big demand on the St Galls players in every way. And don't forget these boys have been on the go for a few years now. Surely the timing of the two championships has to be reconsidered. Would the north Antrim clubs allow that though? As far as I know Rossa were having to play senior football fixtures before their hurling championship and St Johns played St Galls last Wednesday night. St Galls have no complaints about the game and the result and good luck to Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2012, 03:33:20 PM
Loughgiel 4/5
Cushendall6/4
Dunloy 6/1
St. Johns 16/1

I'd have thought Dunloy would have been shorter odds than that!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
I will tell ye one thing though, in my humble opinion.  St. Galls, if, and it's a big if, committed to one season, say next year to focusing, committing and putting the same level of their physical and human resources, under the right man (no, you!) as they do for football, I honestly believe they could win a county hurling championship.  Have no doubt about that.  Big question is though, will they/would they want to?????  Therein is the dilemma for St. Galls!

Big ball or wee ball?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 03, 2012, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
I will tell ye one thing though, in my humble opinion.  St. Galls, if, and it's a big if, committed to one season, say next year to focusing, committing and putting the same level of their physical and human resources, under the right man (no, you!) as they do for football, I honestly believe they could win a county hurling championship.  Have no doubt about that.  Big question is though, will they/would they want to?????  Therein is the dilemma for St. Galls!

Big ball or wee ball?

Again all ifs and buts with nothing to back it up!

Lads esp MR2 I have nothing but the biggest admiration for your club and its record, but in my opinion be it due to timing or internal matters within the club the commitment wasn't given to hurling this year. The stuff against Cushendall wasn't out of ordinaryandmy point is that had this happened in the football it wouldn't warrant a mention.

P's Ballycastle have a football team as do Dunloy these seem to be recreational teams in the same sense that the milltown hurling team is! :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
I'd find it hard to believe that any of the Cushendall players fired the butt of the hurl into their St Galls opponent because they only trained 3 times for the game and 'hadn't given the fixture the respect it deserved'.

Utter pish IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
I know a fair amount about hurling man! Although I would never profess to be an expert,
not like you and many others.  CJ in my view maybe be talented, but it takes much more than talent to be able to hold your own!  Personally, I believe him to be a liability on any team,as he forgets about the fundamentals of teamwork and commitment. Talent in my view is only one key component of being a good hurler or making a vital contribution to "the team".  Of this I am certain. e.g.  Does Watson, Donnelly, McManus, Shields not hold their own at their respective hurling clubs?  Is only their talent, contribution and ability to hold their own, the only key factor towards a teams success?  CJ in effect, could potentially cost you a game in my opinion.  But remember, I am no expert! ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
I know a fair amount about hurling man, although I would never profess to be an expert,
not like you and many other.  CJ in my view maybe be talented, but it take much more than talent to be able to hold your own!  Personally, I believe him to be a liability on any team,as he forgets about the fundamentals of teamwork and commitment. Talent in my view is only one key component of being a good hurler or making a vital contribution to "the team".  Of this I am certain. e.g.  Does Watson, Donnelly, McManus, Shields not hold their own at their respective hurling clubs?  Is only their talent, contribution and ability to hold their own the only key factor towards a teams success?  CJ in effect, could potentially cost you a game in my opinion.  But remember, I am no expert! ;) ;D

In defence of CJ and not attacking other you have named, some of their disciplinary records could be questioned so I think that is a silly point. CJ scored about 1-2 yesterday (maybe more from frees) and was really good at centre back last year against Dunloy and ourselves which for me is a worthwhile contribution. I will of course remember you are no expert  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2012, 05:03:45 PM
Important that we applaud the efforts of everyone who played championship this weekend. Its a mans game and from the game I seen it was full blooded and fully committed throughout. Only one team can come out on top but that doesnt mean the rest haven't been busting their balls any less
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 03, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 03, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
just to point out lads, this rough treatment handed out to St Galls did not happen, maybe a few players digging at each other at stages, thats it. (it is championship after all)

There where only 3 or 4 dirty strokes in the game and they didnt come from Dall players.

The McGourtys obviously didnt stop gurning at the final whistle, they continued into the club as well.
Nothing new there man! The Ciaran lad is the only hurler among them.  Seems like a trait they picked up from their father, another major gurner and still is by all accounts?

Winker if you knew anything about hurling you would know that CJ can more than hold his own
I know a fair amount about hurling man, although I would never profess to be an expert,
not like you and many other.  CJ in my view maybe be talented, but it take much more than talent to be able to hold your own!  Personally, I believe him to be a liability on any team,as he forgets about the fundamentals of teamwork and commitment. Talent in my view is only one key component of being a good hurler or making a vital contribution to "the team".  Of this I am certain. e.g.  Does Watson, Donnelly, McManus, Shields not hold their own at their respective hurling clubs?  Is only their talent, contribution and ability to hold their own the only key factor towards a teams success?  CJ in effect, could potentially cost you a game in my opinion.  But remember, I am no expert! ;) ;D

In defence of CJ and not attacking other you have named, some of their disciplinary records could be questioned so I think that is a silly point. CJ scored about 1-2 yesterday (maybe more from frees) and was really good at centre back last year against Dunloy and ourselves which for me is a worthwhile contribution. I will of course remember you are no expert  ;)
You are entitled to think that it silly, but others did not think so.  Likewise, I will remember that you are an alleged expert.  So you put yourself in the Brian Cody (Expert) category would you?    I have news for you man, you or I are no Brian Cody -  Catch yourself on! :o :D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 03, 2012, 07:25:09 PM
"fundamentals of teamwork and commitment"........don't make me laugh!! Where did teamwork and commitment come into it when you were rolling around Bcastle plastered this past week or so!  No discipline in your camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 03, 2012, 07:32:32 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 03, 2012, 07:25:09 PM
"fundamentals of teamwork and commitment"........don't make me laugh!! Where did teamwork and commitment come into it when you were rolling around Bcastle plastered this past week or so!  No discipline in your camp.
Rolling around BCastle, who me? Most definately not.  I was at a wedding and I don't roll around anywhere I'll have you know.  I suppose you were playing for Ballycastle, it has been said they had a few big hairy women playing for them against Dunloy?  Not my words by the way!  :D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
I hear the shamrocks/Johnnies semi should be played in north Antrim as we were drawn out of the hat first. Now where would that be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2012, 08:54:56 PM
Johnnies will be looking that game in Belfast since the other semi obviously in north Antrim.
I would have thought your lads be happy for another day in casement before the final SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 03, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
St Galls don't have the players to win a senior championship, regardless of how many times they train. Stewart is excellent, few other decent ones but 7 or 8 of them wouldn't be up to it. Sure the Antrim football c'ship has been a total cakewalk and I have heard it said that St Galls footballers don't knuckle down to hard training until they win Antrim, why don't they give the hurling a real good try then and we wouldn't have to keep listening to "if only we trained" ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 03, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
no no saffrongael if the galls men trained and were serious they would win the all ireland

SIE Ballymena is where that game should be played, super pitch

though agree with btdtgtt that you lads wouldn't mind a wee run out in casement and it would save a higher expenses form from little JIMBO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2012, 09:44:35 PM
I'm led to believe it'll be definitely north Antrim. Nothing set in concrete yet of course. Ballymena would be a great shout by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 03, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
no no saffrongael if the galls men trained and were serious they would win the all ireland

SIE Ballymena is where that game should be played, super pitch

though agree with btdtgtt that you lads wouldn't mind a wee run out in casement and it would save a higher expenses form from little JIMBO
**k will you stop!!  That's more or less saying the dall or dunloy hasn't taken it serious, just cause they haven't won an AI.  St Galls have know one to blame but themselves.  No harm intended MR2.    If they wanted to put in abit of effort to the hurling end of things they could well get something out of it.  End of.  Ifs and buts are no good come this time of year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2012, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 03, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
no no saffrongael if the galls men trained and were serious they would win the all ireland

SIE Ballymena is where that game should be played, super pitch

though agree with btdtgtt that you lads wouldn't mind a wee run out in casement and it would save a higher expenses form from little JIMBO
**k will you stop!!  That's more or less saying the dall or dunloy hasn't taken it serious, just cause they haven't won an AI.  St Galls have know one to blame but themselves.  No harm intended MR2.    If they wanted to do put in abit of effort to the hurling end of things they could well get something out of it.  End of.  Ifs and buts are no good come this time of year

Fair dues, I've said it all along, the blame the lies with the players, end off, If they want it they will have to work hard for it and commit to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2012, 10:13:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2012, 09:44:35 PM
I'm led to believe it'll be definitely north Antrim. Nothing set in concrete yet of course. Ballymena would be a great shout by the way.
Am not so sure about wanting a run out in casement,  st johns have always been harder beat in the city,  I'd take it in dunloy/ ballycastle.  County board would hardly give us a double header in ballycastle.  Packed house.  Be to much to ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2012, 10:15:38 PM
Double header in ballycastle would be a great day.
But clearly much 2 good an idea for the county or joe Edwards to engage!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
Good idea for your pocket but not for the county coffers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: S Áine on September 04, 2012, 12:11:58 AM
If the football championship was set for Aug/Sept would the north Antrim clubs be happy to play championship in June, or at least the inital rounds?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 04, 2012, 12:13:22 AM
What about the odd year the county do well??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 07:28:42 AM
Take the 2 games to Casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2012, 07:57:02 AM
Both games at Casement would do fine!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 08:37:06 AM
As good a surface as you have in Ballycastle and Loughgiel the roads network should dictate that these games go to Casement, on Sunday I drove down from Belfast after our game and arrived in Loughgiel at the Cloughmills end and sat for a good half hour in traffic and it was another half an hour after the game to get out of the car park. At least at Casement you get to sit in the stand, the view of the game is so much better and it has the big game atmosphere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
Quote from: S Áine on September 04, 2012, 12:11:58 AM
If the football championship was set for Aug/Sept would the north Antrim clubs be happy to play championship in June, or at least the inital rounds?

I'd suggest the championship fixtures are set to roll from the Ulster club championships semi/final and final in October and November at the latest, and to set an initial round in June then nothing for a few months wouldn't make sense, plus you're possibly in the middle of AI round robin games in June and the clubs would want their players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I cant believe the amount of whinging going on and from some St Galls folk as well. They wre jabbing their ribs...well if they are then jab them f**king back. Jasus its senior championship and from what I seen it was fairly tame, compare that to what goes on between kilkenny and Tipp and most probably will go on at Croke on Sunday. Im actually embarrassed to hera that from fellow clubmen who should know better. I received and gave out much worse than that, its part of the game. Sundays game wasnt dirty at all and I agree totally to whats been said about St Galls....the players have to be willing to put in the effort required to win a senior hurling championship and I just dont think they will give that committment from enough players. Frustrating as fcuk though as i do believe we could give it a good lash but cest la vie.

I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 04, 2012, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I cant believe the amount of whinging going on and from some St Galls folk as well. They wre jabbing their ribs...well if they are then jab them f**king back. Jasus its senior championship and from what I seen it was fairly tame, compare that to what goes on between kilkenny and Tipp and most probably will go on at Croke on Sunday. Im actually embarrassed to hera that from fellow clubmen who should know better. I received and gave out much worse than that, its part of the game. Sundays game wasnt dirty at all and I agree totally to whats been said about St Galls....the players have to be willing to put in the effort required to win a senior hurling championship and I just dont think they will give that committment from enough players. Frustrating as fcuk though as i do believe we could give it a good lash but cest la vie.

I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.
Jasus man, them's mighty words  ;) :D

If it's not the pitch, it's the rules, it's the county, it's the venue, it's the lack of commitment, it's football, but ultimately, it's always the referee!  See what I mean, bloody referees!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 04, 2012, 09:48:49 AM
Maybe some of the players could take over some of the extensive admin duties that OE fulfills and let him then concentrate more on reffing???? Any chance???
Wheres the solutions rather than just criticism ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.

Look manballandall, Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. If you were to speak to Cushendall men they'll say he give us a few handy frees, speak to a Galls man and he'll say he let Cushendall away with a few things in the game.

Inconsistency is not done on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything. The ones giving off about the ref (and I also shouted from the stand at some decisions) on here haven't refereed a game at a proper level so it to me you're are being wee bit harsh.

I've criticised referees before and I'll do it again, no doubt that. But Owen did well enough and he had no major say on who won the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2012, 10:07:25 AM
Skull I dont think the county coffers are too much affected my the double header.
How many people will really make the effort to attend both games?
Realistically - the dunloy/dall boys know they'll be playing Loughiel in the final - nothing to see there.
And likewise only some Loughiel folk will have an interest in who they meet in the final.
Therefore if we take this number of people and look at it on the grand scheme of a year's finances I dont think its significant enough to make a difference.
Further, the spectacle and occasion should be a driving force.
Ideally I think a double header at Casement is the best option, failing that a double header in Ballycastle.
Lets see what the wisdom of our county comes up with!

One final point to mention the other issue - our refs are crap.
But they are all we have and I wouldnt do it for any money.
As long as they dont affect winners/losers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
And as always you're right and everyone else was wrong MR2. Wind your neck in.

I never said he influenced the outcome of the game as I dont think he did and I also believe he was as bad for both teams. My gripe is with inconsistency and it has nothing to do with angles or anything else....if he doesnt see it he cant blow it, no problem there but he seen the same foul numerous times yet let it go sometimes. That is what irritates and frustrates players.

Not a blame game or finger pointing exercise but it is fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
And as always you're right and everyone else was wrong MR2. Wind your neck in.

I never said he influenced the outcome of the game as I dont think he did and I also believe he was as bad for both teams. My gripe is with inconsistency and it has nothing to do with angles or anything else....if he doesnt see it he cant blow it, no problem there but he seen the same foul numerous times yet let it go sometimes. That is what irritates and frustrates players.

Not a blame game or finger pointing exercise but it is fact.

You were sitting beside me so you seen what I saw. You can't say he seen the same foul!! That's silly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 04, 2012, 11:05:19 AM
Now, now children, sit down, fold your arms and put your finger on your lips!  Failing that, just dig the hoor!  :) :D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.

Look manballandall, Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. If you were to speak to Cushendall men they'll say he give us a few handy frees, speak to a Galls man and he'll say he let Cushendall away with a few things in the game.

Inconsistency is not done on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything. The ones giving off about the ref (and I also shouted from the stand at some decisions) on here haven't refereed a game at a proper level so it to me you're are being wee bit harsh.

I've criticised referees before and I'll do it again, no doubt that. But Owen did well enough and he had no major say on who won the game.

So what exactly were you shouting at then ?
Maybe your vision was a bit blurred as you missed a fair bit of the match being at the bar...some supporter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 04, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.

Look manballandall, Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. If you were to speak to Cushendall men they'll say he give us a few handy frees, speak to a Galls man and he'll say he let Cushendall away with a few things in the game.

Inconsistency is not done on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything. The ones giving off about the ref (and I also shouted from the stand at some decisions) on here haven't refereed a game at a proper level so it to me you're are being wee bit harsh.

I've criticised referees before and I'll do it again, no doubt that. But Owen did well enough and he had no major say on who won the game.

So what exactly were you shouting at then ?
Maybe your vision was a bit blurred as you missed a fair bit of the match being at the bar...some supporter.
Ho, ho, ho, getting personal men/lads, reign it in a little.  ::) :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 11:11:31 AM
Elliott's awarding of the penalty was controversial, 2 men physically contesting a high ball was all I saw. Then he gave Stewart 2 goes at it. The rest of his performance was ok but the penalty award and retake was questionable to say the least. He seems to like giving dubious penalties against Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:12:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
And as always you're right and everyone else was wrong MR2. Wind your neck in.

I never said he influenced the outcome of the game as I dont think he did and I also believe he was as bad for both teams. My gripe is with inconsistency and it has nothing to do with angles or anything else....if he doesnt see it he cant blow it, no problem there but he seen the same foul numerous times yet let it go sometimes. That is what irritates and frustrates players.

Not a blame game or finger pointing exercise but it is fact.

You were sitting beside me so you seen what I saw. You can't say he seen the same foul!! That's silly
Whats silly about it ?
I seen him blow for a push in the back then not blow the same foul a few minutes later. I saw him blow for chopping then not blow for the same foul later ?  ?. Silly, yeah it is just daft and also inconsistent.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 04, 2012, 11:14:25 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 11:11:31 AM
Elliott's awarding of the penalty was controversial, 2 men physically contesting a high ball was all I saw. Then he gave Stewart 2 goes at it. The rest of his performance was ok but the penalty award and retake was questionable to say the least. He seems to like giving dubious penalties against Cushendall.

While I thought the penalty may have questionable however according to one of our hurl carriers he hadn't blown his whistle for the original strike and his back was turned to the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
I have one gring from sunday though and before people jump down my throat...i know they are an easy target, i know they do it voluntary and I know its not easy etc etc but the refereeing on sunday was dire. It is so inconsistent and I believe it is this inconsistency that creates a lot of frustration amongst players, managers and supportes a like and this inconsistency in itself creates a lot of problems on the pitch. How can a player gauge what he can get away with if a foul is blew for an offringement but 2 mins later the same ofrfingement is allowed to go on. Its crazy and its something that is rife within out county.

Look manballandall, Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. If you were to speak to Cushendall men they'll say he give us a few handy frees, speak to a Galls man and he'll say he let Cushendall away with a few things in the game.

Inconsistency is not done on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything. The ones giving off about the ref (and I also shouted from the stand at some decisions) on here haven't refereed a game at a proper level so it to me you're are being wee bit harsh.

I've criticised referees before and I'll do it again, no doubt that. But Owen did well enough and he had no major say on who won the game.

So what exactly were you shouting at then ? Maybe your vision was a bit blurred as you missed a fair bit of the match being at the bar...some supporter.

My vision is fine, no need to wear glasses like someone I know ::)

Stop gripping about refs FFS

Yes penalty was two lads contesting a ball, penalty given. Was he backing in or was Carson shoving and pushing? As for the re take, Owen wasn't ready or looking at it. Happens all the time, Some refs say, wait for the whistle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 04, 2012, 11:20:02 AM
Lets move on men for jasus sake, whingeing and gurning appears to be a common trait throughout St. Galls.  Enough I say!

Referees, teachers + whingers, gurners, it must be a hormone imbalance.  Prescribe them boys some patches jasus sake!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
So what exactly were you shouting at then MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 11:43:44 AM
So what exactly were you shouting at then MR2?

At him for not blowing for what I thought was a free from where I was sitting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winker3716 on September 04, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...
Difference being Manballandall, he is the patriarch of the Antrim Hurling board, a hero member and all that.  Us lesser mortals always stand corrected!  :o ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...

I can still have a view on things and so can Owen if he were watching a game. If my view doesn't sit well with someone then fine. I'm just giving my point. Who's right? Haven't seen too many posters post something here that they thought was wrong, self included.

By me saying he did a fine job doesn't mean that I'll agree with all his calls, it's about what he sees that counts, try it sometime
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 04, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...

I can still have a view on things and so can Owen if he were watching a game. If my view doesn't sit well with someone then fine. I'm just giving my point. Who's right? Haven't seen too many posters post something here that they thought was wrong, self included.

By me saying he did a fine job doesn't mean that I'll agree with all his calls, it's about what he sees that counts, try it sometime

Yes, try it sometime!!!!! then see what you think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...

I can still have a view on things and so can Owen if he were watching a game. If my view doesn't sit well with someone then fine. I'm just giving my point. Who's right? Haven't seen too many posters post something here that they thought was wrong, self included.

By me saying he did a fine job doesn't mean that I'll agree with all his calls, it's about what he sees that counts, try it sometime
It seems you're right as always MR2 because all i did, like yourself, was post what i thought was right , my opinion, giving my point. My view was that he was inconsistent but silly me for saying such...Its all about the angles...i get it now.I bow to your knowledge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Was that not very harsh of you MR2 as to quote yourself ..."Owen did a fine job, christ if he were to blow for every infringement we wouldn't have any players on he pitch FFS. It wasnt on purpose, it could be the angle the referee is seeing it and before you say anything, he can't be at every angle and see everything.

Hilarious...nothing like shooting yourself in the foot...

I can still have a view on things and so can Owen if he were watching a game. If my view doesn't sit well with someone then fine. I'm just giving my point. Who's right? Haven't seen too many posters post something here that they thought was wrong, self included.

By me saying he did a fine job doesn't mean that I'll agree with all his calls, it's about what he sees that counts, try it sometime
It seems you're right as always MR2 because all i did, like yourself, was post what i thought was right , my opinion, giving my point. My view was that he was inconsistent but silly me for saying such...Its all about the angles...i get it now.I bow to your knowledge.

Thanks :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

He'd miss

I thought last years penalty at the time where I watched it was very soft, but when I watched it on tv it was a clear penalty JJ

What referee would you like JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

He'd miss

I thought last years penalty at the time where I watched it was very soft, but when I watched it on tv it was a clear penalty JJ

What referee would you like JJ?

Sure I think we all know you're the best MR2....never wrong and you know your angles better than anyone. We'll just call you the protractor from now on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 01:22:27 PM



Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

He'd miss

I thought last years penalty at the time where I watched it was very soft, but when I watched it on tv it was a clear penalty JJ

What referee would you like JJ?

Sure I think we all know you're the best MR2....never wrong and you know your angles better than anyone. We'll just call you the protractor from now on.

You'll not get any birthday drinks at this rate!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

jj the official guide says

QuoteRules of Control
RULE 1 - CONTROL OF THE GAMES
MATCH OFFICIALS

1.2 DUTIES OF THE REFEREE

(viii) To blow the whistle when a foul has been
committed or when the ball has gone out
of play. To blow the whistle or give a signal
to restart play. Once the referee has given
a decision and has sounded his whistle to
restart play, he shall not alter that decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

jj the official guide says

QuoteRules of Control
RULE 1 - CONTROL OF THE GAMES
MATCH OFFICIALS

1.2 DUTIES OF THE REFEREE

(viii) To blow the whistle when a foul has been
committed or when the ball has gone out
of play. To blow the whistle or give a signal
to restart play. Once the referee has given
a decision and has sounded his whistle to
restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

What does it say about other players encroaching within the D when a penalty is taken?

If it is a defender, can it be retaken and if an encroaching forward scores on a rebound, is it a free out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

jj the official guide says

QuoteRules of Control
RULE 1 - CONTROL OF THE GAMES
MATCH OFFICIALS

1.2 DUTIES OF THE REFEREE

(viii) To blow the whistle when a foul has been
committed or when the ball has gone out
of play. To blow the whistle or give a signal
to restart play. Once the referee has given
a decision and has sounded his whistle to
restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

What does it say about other players encroaching within the D when a penalty is taken?

If it is a defender, can it be retaken and if an encroaching forward scores on a rebound, is it a free out?

Quote
2.3 A penalty puck shall be taken at the centre
point of the 20m line and the semi-circular arc,
and only three defending players may stand
on the goal-line. All other players, with the
exception of the player taking the puck, shall
be outside the 20m line, and shall not cross
the 20m line or the arc until the ball has been
struck. If a defending player(s) fouls before
the ball is struck and a goal does not result,
the referee shall allow the penalty puck to be retaken


can't see anythin about a defender attacker but this link will get you the guide on the right side its part 2 you want

http://gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/our-games/football/personalities/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Forever Green on September 04, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
A great weekend of Championship hurling and all you`s are going on about is the referee`s

Just goes to show how shite they really are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??
I don't remember any dodgy penalties awarded in last years final, I remember the one stonewall penalty that was awarded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 04, 2012, 02:42:53 PM
I am not saying it wasn't a penalty but it was certainly closer to 'dodgy' than it was to 'stonewall'.

I thought that at the time and for me was the turning point in the game, as it looked like going away for Loughgiel and the Dall's tails were up. But after watching in on TV later it was a penalty, I'm sure the Loughgiel boys can, well lets say, get it up ::) on youtube or somewhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
SIE lets tell the truth here, Benny Mc Carry could have got a 9.8 for that effort if he'd been at the side of a pool rather than at Casement. You couldn't argue that Loughgiel have brought hurling in Antrim to a new level but the penalty in the final last year was the single biggest factor in the game and it was a dodgy, hotly disputed call. Don't worry MR2 its been watched over and over again in Cushendall, still isn't a penalty!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 04, 2012, 03:10:20 PM
jeez lads, cant believe we are going back to a decision last year, i have my opinion on the decision but i will keep to myself at this stage.

fact is, it was a penalty cause the ref gave it. end off

with regards this year, 
Loughgiel will stuff St John by 10 -15 points
Cushendall should win a tight game against Dunloy

cushendall havent improved since last year IMO so Loughgiel to win final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 04, 2012, 03:10:20 PM
jeez lads, cant believe we are going back to a decision last year, i have my opinion on the decision but i will keep to myself at this stage.

fact is, it was a penalty cause the ref gave it. end off

with regards this year, 
Loughgiel will stuff St John by 10 -15 points
Cushendall should win a tight game against Dunloy

cushendall havent improved since last year IMO so Loughgiel to win final

But have Loughguile improved or even kept things on an even keel since March ?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2012, 03:58:06 PM
IMO  they are the same as they were last year. They play a simple system really well and have one of the best forwards in Ireland who can score from anywhere.

Can they be beat? Yes. If cushendall get by us they have plenty of great hurlers who can beat them. Shane And Neil are pure quality and could win a game themselves.

If we get to play them there's no way on this earth we would fear them, no matter how good they were.

Great team, def but one which will soon lose a lot of great players to age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!


Probabaly sees that this is Loughgiels last go at it



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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2012, 04:39:51 PM
Lol I would be surprised if he left lgiel completely. Could he do both jobs maybe of he got it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
No way can he do both jobs! No chance. Not even worth considering.
Didn't think loughiel were going anywhere in a hurry? I would imagine with their numbers a conveyor belt will be replacing any retirements.

For what it's worth I thought it was a soft penalty (would it have been a free further out pitch?) but that said cushendall have only themselves to blame - the penalty didn't win the game - it was falls capitulation afterwards that lost it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
SIE lets tell the truth here, Benny Mc Carry could have got a 9.8 for that effort if he'd been at the side of a pool rather than at Casement. You couldn't argue that Loughgiel have brought hurling in Antrim to a new level but the penalty in the final last year was the single biggest factor in the game and it was a dodgy, hotly disputed call. Don't worry MR2 its been watched over and over again in Cushendall, still isn't a penalty!!
It's been watched in Loughgiel too JJ, quite a lot actually,  and like I say it was a penalty. It's all about perspective I suppose. We should agree to disagree on this one.

On the Antrim manager job, I told yous these names weeks ago ffs.  ::)

In my opinion PJ won't go near it for a year or two yet, good luck to whoever gets it though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2012, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
SIE lets tell the truth here, Benny Mc Carry could have got a 9.8 for that effort if he'd been at the side of a pool rather than at Casement. You couldn't argue that Loughgiel have brought hurling in Antrim to a new level but the penalty in the final last year was the single biggest factor in the game and it was a dodgy, hotly disputed call. Don't worry MR2 its been watched over and over again in Cushendall, still isn't a penalty!!
It's been watched in Loughgiel too JJ, quite a lot actually,  and like I say it was a penalty. It's all about perspective I suppose. We should agree to disagree on this one.

On the Antrim manager job, I told yous these names weeks ago ffs.  ::)

In my opinion PJ won't go near it for a year or two yet, good luck to whoever gets it though.

Question is could the County afford PJ's 'backroom team'   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2012, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 03:02:50 PM
SIE lets tell the truth here, Benny Mc Carry could have got a 9.8 for that effort if he'd been at the side of a pool rather than at Casement. You couldn't argue that Loughgiel have brought hurling in Antrim to a new level but the penalty in the final last year was the single biggest factor in the game and it was a dodgy, hotly disputed call. Don't worry MR2 its been watched over and over again in Cushendall, still isn't a penalty!!
It's been watched in Loughgiel too JJ, quite a lot actually,  and like I say it was a penalty. It's all about perspective I suppose. We should agree to disagree on this one.

On the Antrim manager job, I told yous these names weeks ago ffs.  ::)

In my opinion PJ won't go near it for a year or two yet, good luck to whoever gets it though.

Question is could the County afford PJ's 'backroom team'   ;)
;D

They could afford to bring two previous managers trepsin up the length of Ireland, so they probably could. But like I said previously, I don't think it'll be a problem they'll have to consider.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2012, 10:39:39 PM
On another note, I see the big man has said that Loughgiel is to be the venue for county hurling matches while Casement gets rebuilt. There's no confirmation of where the footballers are going to play though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
Yes I agree - think they'll go to loughiel & Creggan.

Ballycastle be disappointed tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 04, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
yes however good loughgiel pitch its a pain getting in on out on big matches, would the fields be able to take traffic with all the winter weather, could be messy

christ hard to know for manager, glad to see some interest though

Hard station i pray u sensed in the sarcasm in my post about Galls winning an all ireland

better an intermediate and senior on as part of a double header

ballycastle and casement to be the respective semi venues

many tickets about the clubs ?????

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2012, 12:59:49 AM
Fr Healy is not a great winter pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2012, 06:31:55 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 04, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
yes however good loughgiel pitch its a pain getting in on out on big matches, would the fields be able to take traffic with all the winter weather, could be messy

christ hard to know for manager, glad to see some interest though

Hard station i pray u sensed in the sarcasm in my post about Galls winning an all ireland

better an intermediate and senior on as part of a double header

ballycastle and casement to be the respective semi venues

many tickets about the clubs ?????
In this regard it isn't any different to any other rural pitch that I'm aware of, same goes for how it stands up to winter.

The Antrim Post seem to think that both semis will be played in Casement pk. They must know something the rest of us don't.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 07:46:50 AM
Dunloy v cushendall is a half 3 throw in loughgiel and the game, loughgiel v st johns is in ballycastle.
That's what I was told last night.
Not 100% sure about the loughgiel fixture but that's where our game will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on September 05, 2012, 09:24:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 04, 2012, 03:58:06 PM
IMO  they are the same as they were last year. They play a simple system really well and have one of the best forwards in Ireland who can score from anywhere.

Can they be beat? Yes. If cushendall get by us they have plenty of great hurlers who can beat them. Shane And Neil are pure quality and could win a game themselves.

If we get to play them there's no way on this earth we would fear them, no matter how good they were.

Great team, def but one which will soon lose a lot of great players to age.



A statement Loughgiel were saying about Dunloy for about half a dozen year before it ever happend (Dick, Ally, Patch etc). They carried on well into their high thirties and still contributed.. But point taken, Loughgiel will have a hell of alot of experienced players to replace in next 3-4 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 05, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
Who are the Loughiel men needing replaced?
Aside from Ding Gillen I think some people are writing off a few players just over 30 too quickly no?

Will be interesting to see these semi-final fixtures - to see which posters called it right if nothing else!
You running a book on the double MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on September 05, 2012, 09:24:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 04, 2012, 03:58:06 PM
IMO  they are the same as they were last year. They play a simple system really well and have one of the best forwards in Ireland who can score from anywhere.

Can they be beat? Yes. If cushendall get by us they have plenty of great hurlers who can beat them. Shane And Neil are pure quality and could win a game themselves.

If we get to play them there's no way on this earth we would fear them, no matter how good they were.

Great team, def but one which will soon lose a lot of great players to age.



A statement Loughgiel were saying about Dunloy for about half a dozen year before it ever happend (Dick, Ally, Patch etc). They carried on well into their high thirties and still contributed.. But point taken, Loughgiel will have a hell of alot of experienced players to replace in next 3-4 years.
Prib was we held on to them too long if I'm honest. They did contribute big time but you have to let the youth through or your in trouble.
That said loughgiel have won nothing at underage hurling this year. Am I right in that? If so I don't ever remember that happening before? We won u12 & 14, the dall under 16 I think, prob the johniees in minor and ballycastle at u21.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 11:30:03 AM
Cushendall V Loughgiel tomorrow night, will either show their hand or will the 2 teams be full of reserve hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Why would anyone risk anything other than a reserve team in this game, who will remember who won this game at the end of the season. Crazy to have it fixed so close to the pointy end of the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Some crack about the loughiel team lads. From the top of my head I think the oldest fella on the team is dd then Scully and ding. All of whom are no more than 31/32. Winker had just turned 30. None of them are going anywhere anytime soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
I think Cushendall needs to lay down a marker, and Loughgiel will do the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 12:33:28 PM
SIE I hurled against DD all the way through underage, he'd be 33 and Ding was older than our age group I'd put him at 34 or 35. Loughgiel would have their core group of players around the 30 mark, Martin Scullion, Johnny Campbell, Neilly Mc Garry, Barney Mc Auley and Watson are all at the 30 mark so the core of the team would be 30 or older. They are top of the tree now but it won't always be that way. We were on top when Karl Mc Keegan, Declan Mc Killop, Mickey Mc Cambridge, Odhran Scullion, Aidan Delargy and Kevin Elliott were around the 29/30/31 mark. Its swings and roundabouts, enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
JJ you musta been around the same time i was playing! lol dings def 35 as i played against him at every grade. DD is i think 34 and as you say martin, johnny, laim, neilly etc are all over 30 now. in fact the core of the team is in their 30's.

as you say they should enjoy it while it lasts as replacing those types of players is dammned near impossible no matter how good a squad you think you may have.

we had to do it, cushendall had to. it moves in circles for squads.

thant said we have alot of young fellas in the team now in their early 20's so that bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
Realist were you playing in the minor final in 1997 when we beat Dunloy? :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Some crack about the loughiel team lads. From the top of my head I think the oldest fella on the team is dd then Scully and ding. All of whom are no more than 31/32. Winker had just turned 30. None of them are going anywhere anytime soon.

I'd have to agree with that. All those boys (bar the odd exception) seem to look after themselves pretty well

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 05, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Loughgiel team which won the All Ireland.

These are guesses to best of my knowledge:

DD - 33
Ding - 34/35
Neilly - 28/29
Ronan - 22
James - 23
Martin - 31
Johnny - 30
Barney - 29/30
Duck - 24
Eddie - 24
Skinner - 29
Joey - 27
Wee Benny - 25
Winker - 30
Shay - 25

Assuming highest edge for those I'm not sure of, equates to an average of - 27.8.

Which is probably about the perfect mix of youth / experience.

Few of those boys wil be hard to replace.  Some good young talent coming through in:

Dan McCloskey
Donal & Aidan McKinley
Maol Connolly
Niall McFadden
Aaron Carey

Accept what DR said about hanging on to older players too long to the detriment of youth.  Probably why Crossmaglen have been so succesful over a prolonged period of time.  They have the abiity to integrate 1/2/3 new payers each season.

That Loughgiel team above still has a good 3 years for everyman on it.

DD may be getting on but he is a keeper so fitness not as much a factor. Ding would be the one (if not thee) fittest in the group.  Looks after himself in terms of gym work, diet, not a big drinker etc.

Biggest factor will be hunger and keeping boys together.  Loughgiel lost 2 good hurlers in Liam McKillop (travelling in Australia) and Ciaran McKinley (work commitments in England / Scotland).  Liam would be a definite starter and Ciaran wouldn't be far away.  This is a probem for quite a few rural clubs given work situation in NI.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 01:41:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 01:20:33 PM
Realist were you playing in the minor final in 1997 when we beat Dunloy? :P
I was 20 then. Was playin u21 then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 05, 2012, 01:59:37 PM
I think the current age profile of the Loughiel team is perfect - so if the next few years see some changing of the guard then that can also be a good thing for them as it will stay fresh and they seem to have the supply coming through. Many people rush to retire boys that reach 30 - I think thats true at inter county perhaps (obviously not blanket statement) but at club level players in mid 30s are regularly the main men on a side.
In short - Loughiel are going nowhere in a hurry lads!

One other point north aontroim gael - dont think the emigration/work thing is confined to rural clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
I don't doubt they will. But having too many constant starters over 30 for say 5 years for instance means your young subs get older and a lot quit due to no games.

Anyway lgiel are deserved favourites for the title with cdall second favs. We just can enjoy our game with no pressure whatsoever on us. We have a keeper who is 18 and never did nets till 2 months into the season along with 3 lads making their first senior season so we are in a good place for the next few years. Our star player shorty is only 23 so we can dwf build for the next while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 03:11:09 PM
I wouldn't just be so sure Loughgiel have a conveyor belt, their under age teams this year have been poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
If any team is getting 3 to 5 good minors through every year they would be more than happy so just because they arent winning anything at minor means nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 05, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 05, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
If any team is getting 3 to 5 good minors through every year they would be more than happy so just because they arent winning anything at minor means nothing

You're right, I don't think they are relying on any given years minor team. Two or three players every couple of years and they will still be there or thereabouts, they have a much stronger bench than Cushendall and Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 03:37:31 PM
Just because Loughgiel are current all ireland champions doesn't mean they have super hurlers at every level, they might have a great senior team but right down from minor they are poor and they might not get 3-5 players off any of their under age teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2012, 03:43:40 PM
Oh i doubt that every player is poor now JJ... a good minor doesnt mean they will make a good senior but a poor minor has ben seen to make a good senior.

Time will tell i guess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2012, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 03:37:31 PM
Just because Loughgiel are current all ireland champions doesn't mean they have super hurlers at every level, they might have a great senior team but right down from minor they are poor and they might not get 3-5 players off any of their under age teams.

Yeah but after a while these players (2/3 minors) start to improve with the training and development and become better players, playing with good hurlers, this really does makes a difference.

Playing juvenile hurling (back in the day!!) we would have for most parts held our own with teams up and down the county but when these lads started getting on their senior div 1 teams they improved. They became stronger and faster and more accurate hurlers.

So even if they are just decent hurlers now at minor, with training they could become great hurlers at senior.

Either way I believe that the Championship will not go the way of the football where the same team wins every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
Is the game still on tomorrow night between cdall and lgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 05, 2012, 04:07:39 PM
Agree JJ that our current Minors are not the strongest.  We won the U21 last year though so hopefully few boys to come through.

As someone else mentioned getting 2 off a minor team is good going each year.  Hopefully the club can build on current success and keep high numbers involved.

In general I think it will be Loughgiel, Cushendall and Dunloy who share the next 5/6 County Championships.  Only two others I can see sompeting are Ballycastle who are not far away and St Johns.  Only my opinion.....time will tell.

On the semis, I think Loughgiel will beat St. Johns although not by as much as some are saying.  St Johns are in the football semi-final this Friday night (I think) and if they were to win that then there would be a good bit of momentum behind the club.  Anyone know if any club has reached both finals in same year before / won both before?

If they lose they may lose a bit of momentum if there is a crossover in players.  If it is to be North Antrim venue I'd say it will be slightly easier for Loughgiel.

Dunloy / Cushendall I see as being a tight game with little in it either way.  Both are itching to get to the final and a crack at Loughgiel (again being presumptious).

I know a few of my Dunloy friends were particuarly pissed off at last years exit and are keen to put that right.  They don't see very much / if anything between them and Loughgiel as has been demonstrated by League and Ulster League games.

I work with an older man from Cushendall and he says that if they could of held on in the County final last year he's confident they would of won the All Ireland as well.  I'd say a few of the players are thinking the same and will be keen for a shot at it this year.

Think it will be a tight game with 1/2 points in it ether way.  Not sure who I'll plump for yet.

Great weather out.....time to dust of the clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 05, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 05, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
Is the game still on tomorrow night between cdall and lgiel?

Despite Mr Watsons recent incorrect claims that we have refused to play them it is on yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on September 05, 2012, 04:19:17 PM
Ban appealed back on, FG owe you big time must return the favour, see your still spouting the usual BS anyway................ and still waiting on your PM, keen to extend our new found friendship. I'm on the watch list, must be careful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2012, 04:29:08 PM
St Johns have done it along with Rossa over the years, We managed semi finals in both (won football final) a few years ago and again last year (winning football.....again)

It is so hard to do but for whatever reasons some dual clubs will continue!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on September 05, 2012, 05:32:29 PM
St John's have won Ulster Senior Club titles in both hurling (1973) and football (1977). I think 1969 was the last time they won Antrim football and hurling titles in the same year...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 05, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
Dunloy won hurling and were beaten by a point by Cargin in the semi of the football, think the year was 1998.  Had an excellent football team then, Dick, Patch and Conor Cunning were all well able to play football for Antrim had they not committed more to hurling!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2012, 12:33:28 PM
SIE I hurled against DD all the way through underage, he'd be 33 and Ding was older than our age group I'd put him at 34 or 35. Loughgiel would have their core group of players around the 30 mark, Martin Scullion, Johnny Campbell, Neilly Mc Garry, Barney Mc Auley and Watson are all at the 30 mark so the core of the team would be 30 or older. They are top of the tree now but it won't always be that way. We were on top when Karl Mc Keegan, Declan Mc Killop, Mickey Mc Cambridge, Odhran Scullion, Aidan Delargy and Kevin Elliott were around the 29/30/31 mark. Its swings and roundabouts, enjoy it while it lasts.
JJ, we have been enjoying it, haven't you noticed?   :)  We're no different in that respect to yourselves or whoever were the kingpins at the time. We're under no illusions about winning the championship, this year or any other. We, probably more than most after the last 10 years, know just exactly what it takes. It's never easy and never will be. Nothing is taken for granted, probably something we were guilty of in the past.

But here, I'd like to think we'd be contesting finals for another year or two yet.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Spare ticket available if anyone interested. Face value of course
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 05, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
Dunloy won hurling and were beaten by a point by Cargin in the semi of the football, think the year was 1998.  Had an excellent football team then, Dick, Patch and Conor Cunning were all well able to play football for Antrim had they not committed more to hurling!
Mind that year well. We had a good team then.
1990 we lost to st galls was it over in rasharkin? I Monday being at tr game as it was just after we had reached the hurling final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 05, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 05, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
Dunloy won hurling and were beaten by a point by Cargin in the semi of the football, think the year was 1998.  Had an excellent football team then, Dick, Patch and Conor Cunning were all well able to play football for Antrim had they not committed more to hurling!
Mind that year well. We had a good team then.
1990 we lost to st galls was it over in rasharkin? I Monday being at tr game as it was just after we had reached the hurling final.

Most of that minor team that we just about beat in 88 would have been on that team. Came away from Dunloy on the friday night with a one point win!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2012, 08:56:26 AM
That's we competed in senior championship and div 1 at both codes. So did rossa. Only st johns are doing it at the min.
Is it a case now of concentrating on the one code your most likely to have success at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2012, 08:56:26 AM
That's we competed in senior championship and div 1 at both codes. So did rossa. Only st johns are doing it at the min.
Is it a case now of concentrating on the one code your most likely to have success at?

Possibly, but it's unfair on some players if the other code takes preference. We are at that point, intermediate level at hurling and senior level at football. Bummer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2012, 10:56:05 AM
Same for us tho our footballers should be in div 2. They made a pigs ear of their away games this season and could of went up had they done better.

Fair play to st johns for still being at the top in both codes. Don't know how they do it! Must be tough on the dual players. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 11:11:58 AM
We actually did have a football team up until around 1970 but the interest just wasn't there to sustain it. I think we even won the North Antrim Football Championship in the early 60's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 06, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
I don't actually think at senior level is when you notice the biggest trouble with a dual club.  Hurling needs to be coached intensively at a young age, that an u14 can only really train one night a week because of other commitments means dual clubs often lack the some of the finer skills.

A big one i find is striking, in Loughgiel, Cushendall and Ballycastle they can all strike it for miles, but in alot of dual clubs many of the players just don't have the same distance, obviously plenty of exceptions, but in my own club these exceptions tend to be the players that focused predominantly on hurling at underage.

Now other skills that are picked up quicker in football do translate, the sidestep, peripheral vision etc can be better in dual clubs as can teamwork (though ironically i think this is were loughgiel have excelled)

It has its advantages but overall i've no doubt skills not mastered at that young age can never be recovered at senior level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
Very true. Under age is where the kids get the skills and it at that stage you make them for the future.

We have extremely lucky this year that at U14 we have won the football, hurling and camogie. Granted we lost the football and hurling county finals but to win at the 3 codes for one club hasn't been done for a while. Hopefully we keep these kids going up through the grades as our current u16 and minors are weak due to lack of numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 06, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
I don't actually think at senior level is when you notice the biggest trouble with a dual club.  Hurling needs to be coached intensively at a young age, that an u14 can only really train one night a week because of other commitments means dual clubs often lack the some of the finer skills.

A big one i find is striking, in Loughgiel, Cushendall and Ballycastle they can all strike it for miles, but in alot of dual clubs many of the players just don't have the same distance, obviously plenty of exceptions, but in my own club these exceptions tend to be the players that focused predominantly on hurling at underage.

Now other skills that are picked up quicker in football do translate, the sidestep, peripheral vision etc can be better in dual clubs as can teamwork (though ironically i think this is were loughgiel have excelled)

It has its advantages but overall i've no doubt skills not mastered at that young age can never be recovered at senior level

Very true!
The problems for dual clubs begin long before senior!

I think the points you make kind of get at the thing we all know - anybody can kick a football but hurling requires much greater skill levels! Thats why we love it!

How to solve this problem?
Well the dual clubs have been proudly trying for years but no solution in sight!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 06, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
I don't actually think at senior level is when you notice the biggest trouble with a dual club.  Hurling needs to be coached intensively at a young age, that an u14 can only really train one night a week because of other commitments means dual clubs often lack the some of the finer skills.

A big one i find is striking, in Loughgiel, Cushendall and Ballycastle they can all strike it for miles, but in alot of dual clubs many of the players just don't have the same distance, obviously plenty of exceptions, but in my own club these exceptions tend to be the players that focused predominantly on hurling at underage.

Now other skills that are picked up quicker in football do translate, the sidestep, peripheral vision etc can be better in dual clubs as can teamwork (though ironically i think this is were loughgiel have excelled)

It has its advantages but overall i've no doubt skills not mastered at that young age can never be recovered at senior level

I've always found lads with a bit of football in their background were far better at getting off the ground when catching a hurling ball.
Most hurlers I know catch a ball with both feet on the ground, never hindered Gary Savage though as he was as good as a catcher I've seen and he couldn't jump to save himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
If you want to know how to catch a ball see Neil mc auley!  On Sunday he caught just about everything going against us!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Neil Mc Auley's catching was superb, not a big lad either 5'10 or so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Neil Mc Auley's catching was superb, not a big lad either 5'10 or so.

Same as gazza, positional sense, strength and timing were his key skills at the catching
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Jim Connolly of Rossa - just for a city dimension!

Slow day at work I know but there's a recession on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 02:52:45 PM
For small men (like me self) Clute and Gary OKane were the best. Sands was pretty good also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 02:58:24 PM
Is Gary O'Kane involved in coaching anyone?

Incredible for club and county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Clute and Sands were great hurlers but never known for catching, Gary O' Kane on the other hand was an exceptional catcher of a ball. Graffin is top notch as well for a wee fella.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 06, 2012, 03:36:42 PM
Gary O'Kane had been Dunloy's senior manager for the last number of years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2012, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Jim Connolly of Rossa - just for a city dimension!

Slow day at work I know but there's a recession on.

Jim specialized in coming in behind for the catch, he was good at it, but if you'd enough wit to stay on his catching arm he struggle to compete physically for the size of him, it'd take a D8 dozer to shift Gary Savage..

Wee Noel Sands was never a catcher, his low centre of gravity was his thing, hard to knock off a ball in full flight. The bandy legs came in handy.

I only ever had one encounter with Clute and he was done at that stage, but was still strong as an ox too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Clute and Sands were great hurlers but never known for catching, Gary O' Kane on the other hand was an exceptional catcher of a ball. Graffin is top notch as well for a wee fella.

Clute was exceptional at catching a ball also. His timing and leap was not much bettered during his time. Offaly semi final when he caught the ball landed and planted in the back of the net to win the match was unreal.

Gary is looking after the minor team now, give me dogs abuse (well not that bad) last time I refereed his team!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 06, 2012, 03:36:42 PM
Gary O'Kane had been Dunloy's senior manager for the last number of years?

Thought I spotted mushy along the line the last time they were down with us, maybe in a fitness advisory role  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Clute and Sands were great hurlers but never known for catching, Gary O' Kane on the other hand was an exceptional catcher of a ball. Graffin is top notch as well for a wee fella.

Clute was exceptional at catching a ball also. His timing and leap was not much bettered during his time. Offaly semi final when he caught the ball landed and planted in the back of the net to win the match was unreal.

Gary is looking after the minor team now, give me dogs abuse (well not that bad) last time I refereed his team!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 06, 2012, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Clute and Sands were great hurlers but never known for catching, Gary O' Kane on the other hand was an exceptional catcher of a ball. Graffin is top notch as well for a wee fella.

Clute was exceptional at catching a ball also. His timing and leap was not much bettered during his time. Offaly semi final when he caught the ball landed and planted in the back of the net to win the match was unreal.

Gary is looking after the minor team now, give me dogs abuse (well not that bad) last time I refereed his team!!!

Clute had a brilliant hand on him, seen him catching ball over far bigger full backs for years for Armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
Gary's the manager of our minor team this year. Mushy and his brother Damian along with john martin are the hurling managers or the seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 06, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
Sean Paul McKillop another good man under a dropping ball as was Skinner McAlister from Cushendall. Jim Connolly, Gary O'Kane and Gazza were masters of the craft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 06, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Clute and Sands were great hurlers but never known for catching, Gary O' Kane on the other hand was an exceptional catcher of a ball. Graffin is top notch as well for a wee fella.

Clute was exceptional at catching a ball also. His timing and leap was not much bettered during his time. Offaly semi final when he caught the ball landed and planted in the back of the net to win the match was unreal.

Gary is looking after the minor team now, give me dogs abuse (well not that bad) last time I refereed his team!!!

Caught another great ball over his (much bigger) man's head in the first half of the Offaly game and was immediately dragged down for a penalty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 04:31:06 PM
Cloot great hand and just an all rounder, seen him at the armoy game there though i think he rarely gets involved.

Ciaran Barr had a might catch on him at a stage.  McAuley very good display on Sunday.

would have went up the nite to cushendall if i thought it wasn't shadow boxing.  Don't think it should be as C'Dall need a stiff run before they face Dunloy.

Gary O'Kane good head and very skillful, his first day was probably his worst for the county ie 89 final, felt a little hiccup form Jimbo there.  Sorry to upset his red and white followers there i.e. st Pauls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 05:19:09 PM
Big Jackie was lethal on his day under a high ball. I remember him catching at least 10 balls off Mike Houlahan in a railway cup game up in Casement. Ulster won the semi that day, great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 05:40:27 PM
Don't wanna personally slant anyone but for the size of him jackie Carson didn't win enough high ball for me. Seen him turn out a few too often.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 06, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2012, 05:40:27 PM
Don't wanna personally slant anyone but for the size of him jackie Carson didn't win enough high ball for me. Seen him turn out a few too often.

Would agree, he had a great hand but too often had the wing mirrors on. With his ability and physique he should have been unplayable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MilltownBlues on September 06, 2012, 06:48:49 PM
Anton McCaff has a great hand!! Pitty he let himself go abit  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
All square in cushendall 1-5 each.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2012, 07:19:40 PM
Loughgiel 4 up at half time. Both teams at full strength afaik.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 06, 2012, 07:35:37 PM
3-10 to 2-10 to Loughgiel, Cdall down to 14 men, Carson two yellows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Bitta a ding dong affair I hear, markers being set down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
3-10 to 4-12 to shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
3-10 to 4-12 to shamrocks

Full report afterwards please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2012, 07:52:47 PM
3-10 - 4-13 ft     ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
4/5 for the championship is great odds me thinks, Dall nearly at full strength too I hear. Though this should give both teams an idea of where they are at in terms of strengths and weakness. Many Dunloy men down watching this? views?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
best league game i have been at in a long while, though a little dark at the end and the cushendall floodlights are like torches, well worth the trip however. thought Carson sending off spurred the dall on a little, some great noises coming from the loughgiel side.

Benny McGarry had the beating off S Delargy and E McCloskey looked like he was buzzing.  well done to both teams for bad breeze.

SIE Why the goalie substitution at the end, was it for DD letting in goals or injury for when he came off i was above the sham sub bench and he seemed ok, just disappointed.

O Elliot is he now our top official like T McIntyre used to be, still has a long way to go to be at Tommys level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Great noises coming from the loughgiel side? Only if you think feeding time at the monkey house is a good noise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 06, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
A typical response from you jj.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 06, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
The grapes must be sour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
best league game i have been at in a long while, though a little dark at the end and the cushendall floodlights are like torches, well worth the trip however. thought Carson sending off spurred the dall on a little, some great noises coming from the loughgiel side.

Benny McGarry had the beating off S Delargy and E McCloskey looked like he was buzzing.  well done to both teams for bad breeze.

SIE Why the goalie substitution at the end, was it for DD letting in goals or injury for when he came off i was above the sham sub bench and he seemed ok, just disappointed.

O Elliot is he now our top official like T McIntyre used to be, still has a long way to go to be at Tommys level.
It was just to give Chrissy a run out afaik saffron.

Jj, I hear sugar is great for sweetening those sour grapes.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 08:43:02 PM
Talk about the game lads FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 06, 2012, 08:53:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 06, 2012, 08:40:47 PM
The grapes must be sour.

Not surprised you chirped in  ::) how's that chip on your shoulder keeping these days

I will talk about the match and not some of the stuff I heard beside me  :o

Was a good game and not much between the teams, big difference was the mistakes, 3 of 4 lough girl goals where shocking defensive mistakes from cushendall

Some really good scores from both teams,?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
No grapes here, wouldn't argue with facts, Loughgiel won the game fair and square but that goulin their supporters do reminds me of chimps, its like something you hear on the discovery channel. As far as the game goes the first half was brilliant hurling with some fantastic scores from both teams. Loughgiel threatened to run away with the game at the start of the second half and it didn't look good when Carson got sent off. Credit to our boys all the same got it back to 3 points on a couple of occasions but whatever chance we had with 15 we were never gonna win with 14, Loughgiel are too good at using the space. We got enough ball into our forwards to win the game but when its 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 we were never gonna get the scores. I wouldn't be that disappointed in our performance, at the end of the day we gave the All Ireland Champions a fright. If we happen to get past Dunloy we'd have a punchers chance in the final. Loughgiel aren't unbeatable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 06, 2012, 09:24:21 PM
to be perfectly blunt loughguile have simply evolved into a better team than us. we are depending too heavily on shane & neil for scores whereas loughguiles 6 forwards all pose a threat. personally i feel that its theirs too lose. in saying that though it has been ours to lose a couple of times the last few years & we did manage to lose it. i think IF we get by dunloy we have to hope loughguile have a bad day but for me realistically we would travel more in hope than expectation. last two years there has only been a puck of the ball between the two teams, this year however i would expect loughguile to win apossible final by 7 or 8 points & thats not mind games. the truth does hurt & anyone from c'dall watching tonight will know that even though the scoreboard had us beat by 6 points, the reality is that there is much more between the two teams. time for us to throw some of the young emerging boys in at the deep end & let them learn. afraid to say it but we need a serious rebuilding the next couple of years. anyhow up the 'Dall!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
No grapes here, wouldn't argue with facts, Loughgiel won the game fair and square but that goulin their supporters do reminds me of chimps, its like something you hear on the discovery channel. As far as the game goes the first half was brilliant hurling with some fantastic scores from both teams. Loughgiel threatened to run away with the game at the start of the second half and it didn't look good when Carson got sent off. Credit to our boys all the same got it back to 3 points on a couple of occasions but whatever chance we had with 15 we were never gonna win with 14, Loughgiel are too good at using the space. We got enough ball into our forwards to win the game but when its 2 on 1 or 3 on 2 we were never gonna get the scores. I wouldn't be that disappointed in our performance, at the end of the day we gave the All Ireland Champions a fright. If we happen to get past Dunloy we'd have a punchers chance in the final. Loughgiel aren't unbeatable.
You're correct JJ, we aren't unbeatable. It will take one hell of a performance to beat us however. We're hurling at about 70-75% right now. And I have to say, I thought we could have scored another 3 or 4 goals quite easily this evening. But as you say, it isn't a fair comparison when one team goes down to 14.

We're not thinking beyond the St. John's game now. Training will be upped and no quarter will be asked or given. They'll come at us all guns blazing no doubt. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 06, 2012, 09:24:21 PM
to be perfectly blunt loughguile have simply evolved into a better team than us. we are depending too heavily on shane & neil for scores whereas loughguiles 6 forwards all pose a threat. personally i feel that its theirs too lose. in saying that though it has been ours to lose a couple of times the last few years & we did manage to lose it. i think IF we get by dunloy we have to hope loughguile have a bad day but for me realistically we would travel more in hope than expectation. last two years there has only been a puck of the ball between the two teams, this year however i would expect loughguile to win apossible final by 7 or 8 points & thats not mind games. the truth does hurt & anyone from c'dall watching tonight will know that even though the scoreboard had us beat by 6 points, the reality is that there is much more between the two teams. time for us to throw some of the young emerging boys in at the deep end & let them learn. afraid to say it but we need a serious rebuilding the next couple of years. anyhow up the 'Dall!!!!

Fair play auld stock, decent report
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
Cushendall have as good a defence as I have seen in Antrim club hurling. They just don't have a strong 6 forwards and are too dependent on too few.

Before Mcnaughton it was delargy - they've been the same for a good few years. It looked like a few younger boys like that fella brick would come through in forwards but just doesn't seem to have happened yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
still think the dall will have too much in the tank for Dunloy, they are in good physical shape and some strong hurlers just need to polish up a few areas, there team play is well behing the Shams.  As for the defence its solid but wouldn't get too excited tommygun.

we will see if this is the Shams at 75%, looking forward to them in county final against probably Dall but even if Dunloy either could put it up to them for a while and Shams will have to show they can kill them off by about 8/10 points now that would be impressive.

Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals

if they continue their upward curve they would take some beating in parnell this year.  But lose focus and they could yet be dumped out at end of September.

PJ for Antrim ? if they would take him, think he would be early yet, though unsure he could trumph his club achievements with a possible 3 in a row and strong semi show.

Have alot of time for Kevin Ryan but a mexican is maybe not want we need after the nutter who has now pulled out of the race for Kerry Manager

Dick, too early for him. let see him take Dunloy to a club final (reckon that would be some feat with current panel and future prospects)

Jonty is a nutter, but reckon he would give 100% and maybe worth a punt, could he be that much worse than what has went before ???

What about Sunday i take it alot of u hurlers on the ditch will be heading down, any chance Galway, what is the handicap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 06, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 11:25:08 PM


Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals




Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 06, 2012, 11:37:46 PM
Wouldn't read much into that tonight.   Jonty is the man to get the north Antrim men to pull together anyway.  But sure what can anyone do that others haven't   It's the hurlers that has to do that bit more together.   Handicap is 3 points, even money.  Could be a pumping for Galway if they don't keep it very tight at start.   Cats will be foaming at mouth to get at them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
Quote from: gelvis on September 06, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 11:25:08 PM


Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals




Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one
Dunloy v cdall is in loughgiel.

Didn't get to the game the night but i would not read into it whatever way the result went the night.
I've seen enough of cdall and lgiel to know they aren't unbeatable so I take some confidence in that.

As for only playing at 75%? Lol yeah right. If they think that playing at level will win big ears then your deluded. Lgiel are playing at the level they have been the past 3 seasons. Their standards haven't dropped at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 07, 2012, 01:40:06 AM
Strong enough words there realist,  well good luck anyway, if dunloy win championship this year, it will be there greatest ever achievement IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2012, 06:09:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
Quote from: gelvis on September 06, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 11:25:08 PM


Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals




Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one
Dunloy v cdall is in loughgiel.

Didn't get to the game the night but i would not read into it whatever way the result went the night.
I've seen enough of cdall and lgiel to know they aren't unbeatable so I take some confidence in that.

As for only playing at 75%? Lol yeah right. If they think that playing at level will win big ears then your deluded. Lgiel are playing at the level they have been the past 3 seasons. Their standards haven't dropped at all.
What I was getting at DR was that we're nowhere near playing at our best yet. We're not as sharp as we can be. There's a lot of work to be done in training yet.  There's no guarantee we'll get there either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 07, 2012, 07:31:30 AM
SIE I'd honestly say that both teams went at it last night full pelt. Loughgiel got the rub of the green & we made 3 horrible mistakes which led to 3 goals, would we have let in the bad goals with our regular full back on the field? Loughgiel seemed to get away with things which we didn't, we got 4 yellow cards and I don't think Loughgiel got any. Eddie Mc Cluskey & Benny Mc Carry got away with over carrying a few times as well. Loughgiel were better than us last night but by a small margin and I certainly feel they got the luck on the night. By the way I was impressed with Ronan Mc Closkey tonight, he kept a tight eye on Shane Mc Naughton which is no mean feat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 08:02:06 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2012, 06:09:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2012, 12:54:11 AM
Quote from: gelvis on September 06, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 06, 2012, 11:25:08 PM


Shams should play in Casement against St Johns, think its only way they can get something positive out of playing that match, ie shooting practice into the goals




Its in Ballycastle on Sat 15th.  Not sure about the Dall/Dunloy one
Dunloy v cdall is in loughgiel.

Didn't get to the game the night but i would not read into it whatever way the result went the night.
I've seen enough of cdall and lgiel to know they aren't unbeatable so I take some confidence in that.

As for only playing at 75%? Lol yeah right. If they think that playing at level will win big ears then your deluded. Lgiel are playing at the level they have been the past 3 seasons. Their standards haven't dropped at all.
What I was getting at DR was that we're nowhere near playing at our best yet. We're not as sharp as we can be. There's a lot of work to be done in training yet.  There's no guarantee we'll get there either.
I think a lot of teams can say that at this point in time. We were awful against ballycastle (no disrespect meant to ballycastle) and got through. So there's still a lot to be done of we want to even consider beating cdall.

Maybe the reason you think that loughgiel aren't at their full potential is sadly down the opposition they have met on the championship? Again I'm not meaning to be disrespectful but Rosas and glenariffe are div 2 teams and are there for a reason. They wouldn't pose any threat to good team like lgiel. St johns will give a better game but of they make the final, which I know they will, it will be their toughest game this year. Only then wil they see of they can move it up a gear.

Our side of the draw got us a very hard game with ballycastle and an even harder game after it. Maybe it's sometimes lucky to get the tougher side of the draw than the easy path?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 07, 2012, 08:30:09 AM


Maybe the reason you think that loughgiel aren't at their full potential is sadly down the opposition they have met on the championship? Again I'm not meaning to be disrespectful but Rosas and glenariffe are div 2 teams and are there for a reason. They wouldn't pose any threat to good team like lgiel. St johns will give a better game but of they make the final, which I know they will, it will be their toughest game this year. Only then wil they see of they can move it up a gear.

Our side of the draw got us a very hard game with ballycastle and an even harder game after it. Maybe it's sometimes lucky to get the tougher side of the draw than the easy path?
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i'd actually be surprised if the johnnies score as much as 4-10 against the shams.   Ballycastle, Johnnies, Oisins, Rossa very little between theses 4 teams, The town edged a few steps in front of the other 3 this year, but they are all on pretty close,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 08:58:10 AM
to be honest so would i. if the johnnies nailed that many scores against lgiel then they would be winning this game.

i dont think this game will be as loose as the glenariffe game was, i think that st johns will keep it tight until lgiel pull away and win handy enough at at the end up.

ballycastle are better than what their current league standing is. they have some great young players and i would say theey will get better as time goes on.

st johns are brutaly hard to beat in their own ground, we got away with a 1 point win, cushendall and other teams struggled there as well this year. the hurlings there in them, its just geting it to come together on the day is the problem for them.

glenariffe are an odd one. waaay to good for div 2 but struggle in Div 1 each year when they come back. dont understand that one at all. their league form in div 1 is far too inconsistent and they never get a good run going to keep them going in the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: viva the mccooey on September 07, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
Jonnies for the double this year. We have the best players, get a good venue draw in the city and the refs always give us the benefit of the doubt, one of the great things about being Antrims Aristocracy.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 07, 2012, 09:29:23 AM
Keep taking the tablets Mc Cooey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 07, 2012, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2012, 08:58:10 AM
to be honest so would i. if the johnnies nailed that many scores against lgiel then they would be winning this game.

i dont think this game will be as loose as the glenariffe game was, i think that st johns will keep it tight until lgiel pull away and win handy enough at at the end up.

ballycastle are better than what their current league standing is. they have some great young players and i would say theey will get better as time goes on.

st johns are brutaly hard to beat in their own ground, we got away with a 1 point win, cushendall and other teams struggled there as well this year. the hurlings there in them, its just geting it to come together on the day is the problem for them.

glenariffe are an odd one. waaay to good for div 2 but struggle in Div 1 each year when they come back. dont understand that one at all. their league form in div 1 is far too inconsistent and they never get a good run going to keep them going in the year.

It's because they are a dual club :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
Lol so are we tho we wouldn't use that as an excuse  ;D lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2012, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2012, 08:58:10 AM
to be honest so would i. if the johnnies nailed that many scores against lgiel then they would be winning this game.

i dont think this game will be as loose as the glenariffe game was, i think that st johns will keep it tight until lgiel pull away and win handy enough at at the end up.

ballycastle are better than what their current league standing is. they have some great young players and i would say theey will get better as time goes on.

st johns are brutaly hard to beat in their own ground, we got away with a 1 point win, cushendall and other teams struggled there as well this year. the hurlings there in them, its just geting it to come together on the day is the problem for them.

glenariffe are an odd one. waaay to good for div 2 but struggle in Div 1 each year when they come back. dont understand that one at all. their league form in div 1 is far too inconsistent and they never get a good run going to keep them going in the year.

Interesting - they havent won it just yet!
At the risk of repeating myself at the risk of repeating myself - +1 on the dual club comment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 07, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
Lol so are we tho we wouldn't use that as an excuse  ;D lol

Maybe the handful of out and out footballers in Dunloy are using it as an excuse though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
We only have about 5 dual players at senior level at the moment. I wouldn't use that as an excuse for being stuck in div 3 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 07, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Can't see past comfortable enough wins for Cushendall and Loughgiel in the semi finals. And I expect another similar game to last years final with Loughgiel shading it by a few points. With a few contentious decisions along the line. Who would the Ulster (Antrim) champions meet in the All Ireland semi final this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2012, 01:18:35 PM
it will be the galway champions this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 07, 2012, 02:40:39 PM
Interesting you know that Dunloy!  Dont think its really of any interest to yous though!! ;DDont bite now!!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 07, 2012, 02:46:14 PM
Dunloy always seemed to play well at Loughgiel down through the years,sort of second home (well hardly). They're worth a flutter in any case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
Last time we played cushendall in lgiel was the semi final and we won by a point. We went on to beat lgiel in the final that year. 07 was it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
I'm guessing that Dunloy are happy to be playing Cushendall, cause they believe they can beat them. Loughgiel would be happy for Dunloy to win so they can try and stuff them in the final (should they get there) and Cushendall aren't as confident as they would have hoped and are very fearfull of losing so many in a row!!

A lot at stake for everyone, Loughgiel have recently raised the bar and have the other teams worried. Some craic all the same, can't wait till next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
I'm guessing that Dunloy are happy to be playing Cushendall, cause they believe they can beat them. Loughgiel would be happy for Dunloy to win so they can try and stuff them in the final (should they get there) and Cushendall aren't as confident as they would have hoped and are very fearfull of losing so many in a row!!

A lot at stake for everyone, Loughgiel have recently raised the bar and have the other teams worried. Some craic all the same, can't wait till next week.

wouldn't say we are happy to be playing cushendall mr2. believe  it or not the general feeling round the village is if we can get by the dall we could beat loughgeil. pound for pound the dall have better hurlers where loughgeil who have some average hurlers with the exception of one wonderfully gifted player and two maybe three good ones. All the smart money on loughgeil and quite rightly so but i know our lads would love to get by cushendall and a chance to play them in the final. we have absolutely nothing to lose, all loughgeil posters on here bar one has been very forthcoming and blunt about Dunloys demise. this is understandable in view of our standards compared to some years back, but i think LG would rather play the Dall in the final(players that is not the posters on  here)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Heart says Galway, head says cats by at least 6. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2012, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
Heart says Galway, head says cats by at least 6. Hope I'm wrong.

some match,very tense .hogan turned the game for kilkenny. was hoping galway could pull it off but they shot to many wide's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
Loved it nah. couldn't make it down today. I'll trying my best to get a couple of tickets for the replay. anybody want to help a fella out?  ;D

That'll mean the county final being put back at least a week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2012, 08:38:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
Loved it nah. couldn't make it down today. I'll trying my best to get a couple of tickets for the replay. anybody want to help a fella out?  ;D

That'll mean the county final being put back at least a week.

can you not get tickets through the club although any time a got tickets through the club the seats where bad. way up in the corner. I gonna try and make the replay myself but 80 euros is some price. I hope galway haven't blew it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2012, 08:38:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
Loved it nah. couldn't make it down today. I'll trying my best to get a couple of tickets for the replay. anybody want to help a fella out?  ;D

That'll mean the county final being put back at least a week.

can you not get tickets through the club although any time a got tickets through the club the seats where bad. way up in the corner. I gonna try and make the replay myself but 80 euros is some price. I hope galway haven't blew it.
I could but I wouldn't take them from someone more deserving. I'll get sorted.

I'm left thinking are Kilkenny not as good as they were or are Galway the only team at their level. I think it's the latter which is why  I'm still hopeful of a Galway win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
Loved it nah. couldn't make it down today. I'll trying my best to get a couple of tickets for the replay. anybody want to help a fella out?  ;D

That'll mean the county final being put back at least a week.

I'd imagine the final will be under the lights on the Saturday evening now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 09, 2012, 11:24:44 PM
I'd say it will be put back a week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
If you put it back a week would that not leave just a week until the Ulster semi?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 10, 2012, 09:19:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
If you put it back a week would that not leave just a week until the Ulster semi?

Our semi-final has been brought forward to this saturday due to Down camogs playing in Croke Park on the Sunday. Not sure what'll happen the Down final either with the AI replay on that same day. Mightn't be an issue for us though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2012, 10:37:41 AM
Just on the AIF, thought it was a great game in fairness. Didnt have the ridiculous needle that the Tipp match had. Dont think that Cody can have any complaints about the last free because when he looks back at it, Tommy Walsh must have got away with two of the clearest 'chops' that you will see at any level.

Looking forward to the replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2012, 11:25:21 AM
Great game on Sunday. I hope Galway haven't blew it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
If you put it back a week would that not leave just a week until the Ulster semi?
Listen, if the Loughgiel boys are saying that it's put back then it's put back cos Wee Joe moved it cos Jim told him to do so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 10, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
If you put it back a week would that not leave just a week until the Ulster semi?
Listen, if the Loughgiel boys are saying that it's put back then it's put back cos Wee Joe moved it cos Jim told him to do so.

Bad weekend?  Just fancy a Monday afternoon whinge?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2012, 01:39:47 PM
well no advantage either way if its the saturday night or the following week really. If Cushendall get there they mght prefer it to be on the Saturday night so that they have a ready made excuse for a 4th final  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2012, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 10, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2012, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
If you put it back a week would that not leave just a week until the Ulster semi?
Listen, if the Loughgiel boys are saying that it's put back then it's put back cos Wee Joe moved it cos Jim told him to do so.

Bad weekend?  Just fancy a Monday afternoon whinge?
Nah..just messing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
Final date will not be decided I would imagine until after the games this weekend. Obviously it is unlikely St Johns will beat Loughgiel but if they did then you couldn't have a double header on the Saturday as they are in the football final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2012, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 10, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
Final date will not be decided I would imagine until after the games this weekend. Obviously it is unlikely St Johns will beat Loughgiel but if they did then you couldn't have a double header on the Saturday as they are in the football final

What???? Talking to Johnnies men in Meaghers yesterday and they said they will tank Loughgiel FFS!! now this was after me 6th pint so I coulda heard a different story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 10, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 10, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
Final date will not be decided I would imagine until after the games this weekend. Obviously it is unlikely St Johns will beat Loughgiel but if they did then you couldn't have a double header on the Saturday as they are in the football final

Good point.  Sounds like the most logical way to approach it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 10, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
Games confirmed as 6pm in Ballycastle for Loughgiel v St Johns and Sunday at 3.30 in Loughgiel for ourselves v Dunloy. Both double headers with Junior Championship games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 10, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
Poor decision by the county board, the GAA made a good decision today at lowering prices for the replay all Ireland final. The Antrim county board could have continued this good will by placing these games as a double header so that supporters in the county could see the top level of action on offer on the one day, therefore saving money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2012, 06:27:21 PM
Gutted! I'm not going to make the LG semi-final. Airport run. Damned feckin holidays!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 10, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:57:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 04, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2012, 01:06:51 PM
Whether or not to allow a quick puc out/free/penalty/slideline is up to the referees discretion. There is no rule that players must wait for the whistle to restart the game there for it was at his discretion that the penalty was retaken. It was entirely his choice to have the penalty retaken. Dodgy penalty in last years final, dodgy penalty against St. Galls which, at his discretion, was taken twice. Maybe he'll hit the next one himself??

jj the official guide says

QuoteRules of Control
RULE 1 - CONTROL OF THE GAMES
MATCH OFFICIALS

1.2 DUTIES OF THE REFEREE

(viii) To blow the whistle when a foul has been
committed or when the ball has gone out
of play. To blow the whistle or give a signal
to restart play. Once the referee has given
a decision and has sounded his whistle to
restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

What does it say about other players encroaching within the D when a penalty is taken?

If it is a defender, can it be retaken and if an encroaching forward scores on a rebound, is it a free out?

Quote
2.3 A penalty puck shall be taken at the centre
point of the 20m line and the semi-circular arc,
and only three defending players may stand
on the goal-line. All other players, with the
exception of the player taking the puck, shall
be outside the 20m line, and shall not cross
the 20m line or the arc until the ball has been
struck. If a defending player(s) fouls before
the ball is struck and a goal does not result,
the referee shall allow the penalty puck to be retaken


can't see anythin about a defender attacker but this link will get you the guide on the right side its part 2 you want

http://gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/our-games/football/personalities/

johnneycool

took me a wee while to find it

Quote4.11 (a) For a player on the team awarded a free puck
to stand or move nearer than 20m to the ball
before it is struck.
(b) For a player on the team awarded a sideline
puck to stand or move nearer than 13m to the
ball before it is struck.
(c) For a player on the team awarded a penalty
puck to be inside the 20m line or the arc
before the ball is struck.4.12 For a player attacking a goal to carry the ball
over opponents' goal-line.
4.13 For a player on the team attacking a goal, who
is in possession of the ball, to score with the
hand(s).
PENALTY FOR ABOVE FOULS - Free puck
from where the foul occurred,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2012, 06:10:59 AM
The county final is fixed for Saturday 29th September at 7.30pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2012, 06:10:59 AM
The county final is fixed for Saturday 29th September at 7.30pm.

Ahem!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 11, 2012, 08:45:04 AM
Have heard these rumours. News seems to go direct to Loughgiel first
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2012, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 11, 2012, 08:45:04 AM
Have heard these rumours. News seems to come direct from Loughgiel via wee Joe in Casement.

Corrected that for you there Colonel  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 11, 2012, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2012, 08:58:44 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 11, 2012, 08:45:04 AM
Have heard these rumours. News seems to come direct from Loughgiel via wee Joe in Casement.

Corrected that for you there Colonel  ;)

Fierce suspicious NAG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 11, 2012, 10:12:45 AM
So when is the football? Was that not down for the 29th? If St John's win this weekend (highly unlikely I know) then is it changed again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Must be some mistake, McDermotts would never be involved in anything like that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 11, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Must be some mistake, McDermotts would never be involved in anything like that!

No-brawls & people getting seriously damaged when playing against McDermott's - never been known.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
Played them a few years back (seconds), played centre half back, won the ball a few times and was enjoying my game. The next ball came in I won it and laid it off to one of our players. Next thing, I got a tap on the should and turned round to get a punch in the face, my tooth came through my lip!! Referee booked us both !!!

Who does those things FFS ?? Lovely bunch of guys but this one arsehole ruined many a players game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Disgraceful stuff

Someone needs to take that issue up with big Jim  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2012, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 11, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Disgraceful stuff

Someone needs to take that issue up with big Jim  ;)

Ex- McDermotts man :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
No sh1t sherlock   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Big Jim got the same treatment as MR2 I believe - that's why he's "EX" mcdermotts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Big Jim got the same treatment as MR2 I believe - that's why he's "EX" mcdermotts.

Punched in the bake by the chairman?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 11, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
On a side note and a different thread, put your money on K Drayne for the football final, I hear he is the latest member of the Illuminati in the corridors of power, and for those that need a bit of direction that's above a KNIGHT! Jesus this new Stadium is bringing them all out of the woodwork!

Should have listened to you mibag! Would have been long odds.

U must keep ur ear close to the ground  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Big Jim got the same treatment as MR2 I believe - that's why he's "EX" mcdermotts.

Didnt know that. Was hinting about his playing days on the football pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 11, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Sounds familiar Last Man ;-) wonder who was on the receiving end last year?

Did big Jim not 'headbutt' a glass ashtray?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 11, 2012, 11:03:03 PM
Just looked at the other fixtures of the weekend there which probably don't get too much attention on the Antrim board here. Cushendun v Glenravel in the JHC, Gort na mona v Cloughmills and St Pauls v Randalstown both in the IHC.

You would have to pick Cushendun, Gort na mona and Randalstown but they should all be fairly close. Anyone from any of those clubs on here? Always liked the Intermediate games as much as the senior ones but this year, its been a bit of an uninspiring one  to say the least without some of the bigger intermediate standard clubs involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
And don't forget Rossa travel to Glenarrife in the 1st of two div2 deciders.
Any opinions to offer on this one HS or minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2012, 11:48:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
And don't forget Rossa travel to Glenarrife in the 1st of two div2 deciders.
Any opinions to offer on this one HS or minder?
Rossa by at least 10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 12, 2012, 05:42:17 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 11, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 11, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Anyone at the Glenravel v McDermotts JHC match in Ahoghill last Thursday night? A 5 minute, 30man brawl according to the Co.Antrim Post. Must have been a right ding dong even if half of it's true.

Sounds familiar Last Man ;-) wonder who was on the receiving end last year?

Did big Jim not 'headbutt' a glass ashtray?
History repeating for sure and we lost home fixtures this season! Wonder will Glenravel get the same.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 07:01:40 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 11, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
On a side note and a different thread, put your money on K Drayne for the football final, I hear he is the latest member of the Illuminati in the corridors of power, and for those that need a bit of direction that's above a KNIGHT! Jesus this new Stadium is bringing them all out of the woodwork!

Should have listened to you mibag! Would have been long odds.

U must keep ur ear close to the ground  ;)

If my prediction proves correct, I fear that this game with the mix and whats at stake may be beyond him and his teams ability, but sure as x head of Antrim assessors his performance should be exemplary shouldn't it? I call it as I see it, and I hope it doesn't come down to the Referee and his inability to control the game and deal with the incidents as they may arise in such a charged environment, there will be plenty  of incidents off the ball as there always are, its just I feel he may lack the experience in this dept! When two teams play football, the Referee should be oblivious in a game, but the Ibrox lads will want to get at St Galls and disrupt their style, whether he and his totally inexperienced team of umpires can control and manage all this has to be seen, but hopefully we will get a good hard and entertaining game of football if that exists!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2012, 08:06:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
And don't forget Rossa travel to Glenarrife in the 1st of two div2 deciders.
Any opinions to offer on this one HS or minder?

We have 9 players on a foreign stag do that are not home until Saturday evening, tried to get the game put back a few hours but couldn't. We will be pushing it to get 15 to field. So it will all be on the game at Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 09:12:30 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 07:01:40 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 11, 2012, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 22, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
On a side note and a different thread, put your money on K Drayne for the football final, I hear he is the latest member of the Illuminati in the corridors of power, and for those that need a bit of direction that's above a KNIGHT! Jesus this new Stadium is bringing them all out of the woodwork!

Should have listened to you mibag! Would have been long odds.

U must keep ur ear close to the ground  ;)

If my prediction proves correct, I fear that this game with the mix and whats at stake may be beyond him and his teams ability, but sure as x head of Antrim assessors his performance should be exemplary shouldn't it? I call it as I see it, and I hope it doesn't come down to the Referee and his inability to control the game and deal with the incidents as they may arise in such a charged environment, there will be plenty  of incidents off the ball as there always are, its just I feel he may lack the experience in this dept! When two teams play football, the Referee should be oblivious in a game, but the Ibrox lads will want to get at St Galls and disrupt their style, whether he and his totally inexperienced team of umpires can control and manage all this has to be seen, but hopefully we will get a good hard and entertaining game of football if that exists!

Football thread please!!! Oh and off the ball tactics will only do so much in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2012, 12:51:00 PM
Well whats the thoughts on the weekends games then, Loughgiel to pull up winning by 8 or more, the other to be very close and low scoring I would imagine the LG pitch is getting heavier by the day. Doesnt overly suit either team.

Whats the odds on a draw  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2012, 01:05:45 PM
Think it will be a tight contest and the conditions of the weather seem to be backing this up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 12, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
Getting the excuses in early Minder, with what is at stake for both clubs these two games are massive. Glenariffe's consistency against Rossa's great run since replacing managers, it's a very difficult one to call. Rossa also have another game after these two? I'm going to favour Rossa due to the boost they will receive from young McGuinness returning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 12, 2012, 01:34:37 PM
Shamrocks minus 7...worth a gamble ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
McGuinness did not play in the last game against Randlastown Cityslicker - Hamill was out injured also and players away at college? Shed any light HS?
Thats said if Minder is not playing mind games it would be difficult to see Oisins replacing 10 players? I have sympathy for Glenarife if this is the case - I was in the caravan waiting on the original fixture to be played.
Basically the year boils down to this game, and if Rossa win the next one also.
Hopefully they are fitting of the season.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 02:18:44 PM
Will count for nowt in the end I fear, I believe there is a change on the way!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 12, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
Getting the excuses in early Minder, with what is at stake for both clubs these two games are massive. Glenariffe's consistency against Rossa's great run since replacing managers, it's a very difficult one to call. Rossa also have another game after these two? I'm going to favour Rossa due to the boost they will receive from young McGuinness returning.

How is it mind games ? They won't be there, at least 7 of them are starters. They went today and dont come back until about 5.30pm on Saturdy evening, the match is at 3pm. They had it booked a long time ago as there was no fixture set for this date. I was confident of us beating Rossa at home with a full squad but as it is we will most likely get hammered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Thats cat Minder - especially since its a re-fix. If you are right about the result it will make for some game at Rossa the following week!
Whats the change MR2 - league restructure?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 12, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
McGuinness played at the weekend in the 7's for Rossa and as far as I am aware is definitely back for the rest of the season, HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 12, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 12, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 12, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
Getting the excuses in early Minder, with what is at stake for both clubs these two games are massive. Glenariffe's consistency against Rossa's great run since replacing managers, it's a very difficult one to call. Rossa also have another game after these two? I'm going to favour Rossa due to the boost they will receive from young McGuinness returning.

How is it mind games ? They won't be there, at least 7 of them are starters. They went today and dont come back until about 5.30pm on Saturdy evening, the match is at 3pm. They had it booked a long time ago as there was no fixture set for this date. I was confident of us beating Rossa at home with a full squad but as it is we will most likely get hammered.

None,  except a possible SHC Semi-Final   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 02:43:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Thats cat Minder - especially since its a re-fix. If you are right about the result it will make for some game at Rossa the following week!
Whats the change MR2 - league restructure?

Well a wee birdy told me something, waiting on it being concrete before I share it here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2012, 02:49:57 PM
Hamill back Hardstation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 12, 2012, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 02:43:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Thats cat Minder - especially since its a re-fix. If you are right about the result it will make for some game at Rossa the following week!
Whats the change MR2 - league restructure?

Well a wee birdy told me something, waiting on it being concrete before I share it here

Do you not have a county convention to decide these things?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Depending on which clubs it's affecting JC, these deals are normally sorted well in advance of convention  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Depending on which clubs it's affecting JC, these deals are normally sorted well in advance of convention  ;)

Never a truer word was said NAG1, look to glenavy for that power base ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 03:41:11 PM
MR2 no County Finals for you? Your lad Mc Grath doing his reputation no harm these days with the wee ball, Duffy conspicuous by his absence recently, doesn't seem to be getting to many games of late, anything to report there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 03:41:11 PM
MR2 no County Finals for you? Your lad Mc Grath doing his reputation no harm these days with the wee ball, Duffy conspicuous by his absence recently, doesn't seem to be getting to many games of late, anything to report there?

No county finals as yet :P

I really couldn't care in fairness, a bitta craic and a chance to see games and get out of the house ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 12, 2012, 03:49:58 PM
I know, couldn't agree more, its just I heard he had picked up a few injuries just wondering is he out for the rest of the season, that's all or was it BS i was being feed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2012, 04:29:09 PM
I see Loughgiel are 1/8 for Saturdays match, Evens -9, it was -8 earlier but it's obviously been hammered by a lot of gamblers in Belfast :o

-9 is about right might hit that for a draw

Cushendall are evens -3, again about right though it could be tighter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!

If the rumours are to be believed then Rossa should come away with a win in Waterfoot. Job done. But the second game will be a cracker. Would love to referee that one......Not!!

As for the odds, well I believe they are about correct, Loughgiel will step off the gas late on and maybe allow the Johnnies a few late scores to spoil the handicap >:(

While I'm a hurler at heart I've always played football btdtgtt, infact played the over 40's tournament on Saturday (for a good cause), great days craic and plenty of Antrim greats played. Managed to score a point also so was well chuffed!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 13, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!

If the rumours are to be believed then Rossa should come away with a win in Waterfoot. Job done. But the second game will be a cracker. Would love to referee that one......Not!!

As for the odds, well I believe they are about correct, Loughgiel will step off the gas late on and maybe allow the Johnnies a few late scores to spoil the handicap >:(

While I'm a hurler at heart I've always played football btdtgtt, infact played the over 40's tournament on Saturday (for a good cause), great days craic and plenty of Antrim greats played. Managed to score a point also so was well chuffed!!

You must have been one of the oldest players on the pitch  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 13, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!
I think St johns +9 at evens would be a smarter bet than us -9.   Never no what johnnies team will show up with football in mind.  That said I don't even no if they have as many dual players as St Galls.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2012, 11:32:45 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 13, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!
I think St johns +9 at evens would be a smarter bet than us -9.   Never no what johnnies team will show up with football in mind.  That said I don't even no if they have as many dual players as St Galls.

Yeah fancy that also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
From HS;


Hurling race down to two
13 September 2012
The appointment of a new Antrim hurling manager seems to between two men.

Antrim native Michael Johnston and former Carlow manager Kevin Ryan are believed to be the two candidates that the county board are currently considering.

A decision on the matter is due to be made in the next week or so, but the county board stressed that they won't be pushed into a decision.

Johnston has guided Armagh to Nicky Rackard Cup success, while Ryan led Carlow to back to back Christy Ring Cup titles recently.


Is it better the devil you know?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
Its the easier on the pocket option - Jonston.
Or easier on the poiltics option - Kevin Ryan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
SiE and SG would the bodies not fancy the Shamrocks -8 or -9?
You think thats a reasonable handicap Mr2? What's your call for the Rossa game and promotion?
Or have you turned to the big ball as well? God forbid!
not a betting man.

As for the Antrim job, yous will listen to me yet.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Who are you saying will get the county job SiE?
I would have thought your lads would have been looking for a convinving win on Saturday? Getting close to peaking time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Who are you saying will get the county job SiE?
I would have thought your lads would have been looking for a convinving win on Saturday? Getting close to peaking time?
if I was a betting man my money would be on the man from Carlow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
And the game on Saturday? You dont get off that easy!

Sure while we're here make a call on the other semi?

Since I'm asking - Loughiuel to win by 10, And the dall by the minimum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 13, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Who are you saying will get the county job SiE?
I would have thought your lads would have been looking for a convinving win on Saturday? Getting close to peaking time?
if I was a betting man my money would be on the man from Carlow.
I'd hope the betting man would know that the man from Carlow is in fact from Waterford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
And the game on Saturday? You dont get off that easy!

Sure while we're here make a call on the other semi?

Since I'm asking - Loughiuel to win by 10, And the dall by the minimum.
going on current form you'd have to make ourselves and the Dall favourites. Having said that, this is the championship and dunloy are a different animal when it gets to this stage. I'm backing them to beat cushendall, just about. As for us against St johns, going on what I've seen I'd have to say us by 8 or more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
And the game on Saturday? You dont get off that easy!

Sure while we're here make a call on the other semi?

Since I'm asking - Loughiuel to win by 10, And the dall by the minimum.
going on current form you'd have to make ourselves and the Dall favourites. Having said that, this is the championship and dunloy are a different animal when it gets to this stage. I'm backing them to beat cushendall, just about. As for us against St johns, going on what I've seen I'd have to say us by 8 or more.

As I have said before I think Sunday will be a very close one, few different factors will determine it.

But this clamour to make Cushendall favourites comes from where exactly? Who was the last big team that they beat in championship play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
And the game on Saturday? You dont get off that easy!

Sure while we're here make a call on the other semi?

Since I'm asking - Loughiuel to win by 10, And the dall by the minimum.
going on current form you'd have to make ourselves and the Dall favourites. Having said that, this is the championship and dunloy are a different animal when it gets to this stage. I'm backing them to beat cushendall, just about. As for us against St johns, going on what I've seen I'd have to say us by 8 or more.

As I have said before I think Sunday will be a very close one, few different factors will determine it.

But this clamour to make Cushendall favourites comes from where exactly? Who was the last big team that they beat in championship play?

Naomh Gall :o
Title: Bainisteoir
Post by: drici on September 13, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
No more bets being taken.
The Carlow man from Waterford wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2012, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2012, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
And the game on Saturday? You dont get off that easy!

Sure while we're here make a call on the other semi?

Since I'm asking - Loughiuel to win by 10, And the dall by the minimum.
going on current form you'd have to make ourselves and the Dall favourites. Having said that, this is the championship and dunloy are a different animal when it gets to this stage. I'm backing them to beat cushendall, just about. As for us against St johns, going on what I've seen I'd have to say us by 8 or more.

As I have said before I think Sunday will be a very close one, few different factors will determine it.

But this clamour to make Cushendall favourites comes from where exactly? Who was the last big team that they beat in championship play?

Naomh Gall :o

MR2 twice I guess no less!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 13, 2012, 04:39:39 PM
Ryan got the job. Heard it here first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 13, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Who are you saying will get the county job SiE?
I would have thought your lads would have been looking for a convinving win on Saturday? Getting close to peaking time?
if I was a betting man my money would be on the man from Carlow.
I'd hope the betting man would know that the man from Carlow is in fact from Waterford.
I haven't looked that much into him to be honest. All I know is he was Carlow manager. And will probably be next Antrim manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 13, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 13, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Who are you saying will get the county job SiE?
I would have thought your lads would have been looking for a convinving win on Saturday? Getting close to peaking time?
if I was a betting man my money would be on the man from Carlow.
I'd hope the betting man would know that the man from Carlow is in fact from Waterford.
I haven't looked that much into him to be honest. All I know is he was Carlow manager. And will probably be next Antrim manager.
Appointed manager today. Not released yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 13, 2012, 05:56:03 PM
Ryan is the man, its on the county antrim post facebook page
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 13, 2012, 05:57:58 PM
hamill to play against the oisins

yes, hear Ryan is 99% there

shamrocks to beat the johnnies out the gate

the dall to have about 5 points over Dunloy

so surprise surprise its the big 2 in the final

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 13, 2012, 06:14:42 PM
Kinda suprised that they went for an out of county man again.   If we win championship god help him, if dall or dunloy win. He might do ok ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2012, 06:42:43 PM
I'd take what the county Antrim post publish with a pinch of salt. some of their "facts" are a bit suspect. They did after all report that Jim Nelson was a native of loughgiel and that the semis would be played in casement in a double header.

There has to be a meeting held to ratify Ryan as manager, but it's pretty much nailed on.

*edit

I see the meeting is on Monday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Dick and PJ pulled out before the interview stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Dick and PJ pulled out before the interview stage.

Dick pulled out of PJ??? strange one there ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
Not sure on this appointment tbh, dont know enough about the man but the fact that he is coming to us via a county on the same kind of level as ourselves. Maybe we are slightly better  but not by a massive amount so maybe he will have more of an idea about how to get more honest performances from our guys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Dick and PJ pulled out before the interview stage.

Dick pulled out of PJ??? strange one there ;D
you've a warped mind mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 14, 2012, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Dick and PJ pulled out before the interview stage.

Dick pulled out of PJ??? strange one there ;D
you've a warped mind mr2.

seems as if no one in the county wanted the job bar Johnston who has burnt to many bridges to command the respect of most  saffron folk. So this is probably as good as we can get. After last years shannigans  nobody would realistically expect Gerlock or Cody etc. Anyway lets not judge the man to we see how they go, its got to be better than last year. Ive just heard that ballycastle pitch on stand by for dunloy v dall in case loughgeil pitch to bad after fourth coming whether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 14, 2012, 01:08:15 PM
Listen lads, before the interview even took place, the Illuminati dispatched a member down to pave the way, the deal was done before MJ or anybody else had even put their backside in a chair to present! JN new this and withdrew immediately, as usual the casement power base had it sown up and where running a dummy exercise, the old rear guard F SM**H allegedly brokered the deal. The county is even worse than the Fcks in the church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2012, 02:28:41 PM
What is the official / unofficial role of the man u all but mention?
Does our fellow poster have some substance to his knights posts?
All worrying if not surprising?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 14, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2012, 02:28:41 PM
What is the official / unofficial role of the man u all but mention?
Does our fellow poster have some substance to his knights posts?
All worrying if not surprising?

Sleeked/ Slimy/ gutless/ shaft referees at Ulster Council and his fellow officers in the County, is that the role you are asking for btdtgtt? I have very rarely been wrong on this site, call it as I see it. And to finish off the answer is yes to the rear guard of the Church, cant get in the inner circle if your not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on September 14, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
As a member of Opius Day! The knights are a thing of the past, The King is Dead! Long live the King, so If I where you MIBAG time for a transfer A Chara, or stick to camogie ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on September 14, 2012, 02:55:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2012, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
from HS;

Former Carlow boss Kevin Ryan is the only outside man in the race. The ex-Waterford hurler will have to fight off competition from Antrim men Gregory O'Kane, PJ Mullan and Michael Johnston, who managed Armagh for the last four years.

Antrim chairman Jim Murray says all four candidates have been contacted and are happy to be interviewed. He added that the interview panel can also recommend a further candidate if they know of one.


Surprised that PJ has let his name go forward, I thought he'd be creating a dynasty with Loughgeil!

Not sure there was much behind this.  Would only work if Jim Nelson went with him and don't think he was interested.
Dick and PJ pulled out before the interview stage.

Dick pulled out of PJ??? strange one there ;D

Id say If Dick got a hold of you MR2 hed be pulling out something out of you ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2012, 02:58:28 PM
Here we go again with this drivel  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 03:32:44 PM
A hold of what? Wise up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Carlow did a lot of improving over the last number of years. Whoever was in charge round the time we scraped by them in championship did a great job with them. If it was Ryan I think we could have a verygood manager on our hands here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Carlow did a lot of improving over the last number of years. Whoever was in charge round the time we scraped by them in championship did a great job with them. If it was Ryan I think we could have a verygood manager on our hands here.

Yeah tommy, I'm with you regarding that idea. He'll be a new man with a new agenda and different take on things, say it every year, if the team buy into it (what he wants to do) then we can do well, if not, then they might as well fcuk off (players that is)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 14, 2012, 10:41:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
Carlow did a lot of improving over the last number of years. Whoever was in charge round the time we scraped by them in championship did a great job with them. If it was Ryan I think we could have a verygood manager on our hands here.

Yeah tommy, I'm with you regarding that idea. He'll be a new man with a new agenda and different take on things, say it every year, if the team buy into it (what he wants to do) then we can do well, if not, then they might as well fcuk off (players that is)
100% MR2.  That's all of them. Ours included. I said it last year.  The players are there.  It's getting them all on same frame of mind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2012, 02:05:13 AM
I am not disagreeing here sleeping giant but when u say ther players are there - for what?
To do what? To win an all-ireland? To get into division 1? To maintain division2? To not get stuffed in championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2012, 04:09:38 AM
To go out and put in a performance that leaves you with a bit of pride.  hold there own against top counties. The last year Antrim done this was 1/4 final against cork.  7/8 point defeat I know.  But Jesus it felt good to be actually in a game coming down the home straight against a decent outfit. Were never going to lord it.   But if we could compete with the next best.  That's me trying to be realistic!!  win ulster, Get by a round in Leinster.  Get through a round or two in the qualifiers.  The odd 1/4 final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2012, 07:19:05 AM
To go out and put in a performance that leaves you with a bit of pride.  hold there own against top counties. The last year Antrim done this was 1/4 final against cork.  7/8 point defeat I know.  But Jesus it felt good to be actually in a game coming down the home straight against a decent outfit. Were never going to lord it.   But if we could compete with the next best.  That's me trying to be realistic!!  win ulster, Get by a round in Leinster.  Get through a round or two in the qualifiers.  The odd 1/4 final.


Aye we were in the game coming down the home straight until a certain someone got the line and wiped out any chance we had of getting a result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:16:43 AM
Yawn  ::)   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2012, 10:53:25 AM
To be fair SIE he did balls the thing up for us that day by his actions. He could be one of the best forwards in Ireland at county level but never shows it. His bad temper ruined it.
That said he seems to have matured a bit. Turning 30 will do that lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 11:05:24 AM
He also was the best Hurler on the field by a country mile that day and we wouldn't have been close if he hadn't have played. And like I've said on here before I'd have taken that red after what was said to him. The yawn was because this is old territory that has been walked on repeatedly ad nausium. Time some boys moved on and perhaps take a look at how their own hurlers let the county down this year with their childish, jealous behaviour.   ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
He was hardly the best hurler on the field by a country mile. He was ours yes but there are a few cork boys who can hurl a bit you know...

Anyway we wouldn't have beat cork with or without him that day - just a few boys using a chance for a dig here.

There's no reason we can't be beating Offaly and Wexford and pushing towards the likes of Dublin. *if* everyone pulls together mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
He was hardly the best hurler on the field by a country mile. He was ours yes but there are a few cork boys who can hurl a bit you know...

Anyway we wouldn't have beat cork with or without him that day - just a few boys using a chance for a dig here.

There's no reason we can't be beating Offaly and Wexford and pushing towards the likes of Dublin. *if* everyone pulls together mind.
I did mean for Antrim. He got an all star nomination on the back of that performance, sent off and all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 15, 2012, 07:19:05 AM
To go out and put in a performance that leaves you with a bit of pride.  hold there own against top counties. The last year Antrim done this was 1/4 final against cork.  7/8 point defeat I know.  But Jesus it felt good to be actually in a game coming down the home straight against a decent outfit. Were never going to lord it.   But if we could compete with the next best.  That's me trying to be realistic!!  win ulster, Get by a round in Leinster.  Get through a round or two in the qualifiers.  The odd 1/4 final.


Aye we were in the game coming down the home straight until a certain someone got the line and wiped out any chance we had of getting a result.
I knew writing this what the 1st comment would be.  Kinda left myself open for it.   But anyhow.  Use get my point.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 15, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
good luck to the teams this weekend

Loughgeil to beat St Johns by at least 8

The Dall and Dunloy. seen both 2 times this year and now got a sneaky feelin for Dunloy to win this by a couple of points.

whats the betting on that?

Cushendun and Naomh Eanna for the Junior games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2012, 12:55:19 PM
What about the IHC ? Randalstown & Gorts ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 15, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Minder I heard a rumour you were going to step into the breach today...is it true?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 15, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Minder I heard a rumour you were going to step into the breach today...is it true?

Christ had I've known this I'd have headed down, with a defib of course  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
St Paul's will give Tir Na Og all they want, will be a close affair but I'm going for St Paul's.

Gorts seemed to have turned a corner lately but will not get it easy against a stubborn Biddies team, I'm going for the 2 shocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 04:07:41 PM
Good luck to all the teams this weekend.

Oh aye, up the Shamrocks!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2012, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 15, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Minder I heard a rumour you were going to step into the breach today...is it true?

Family commitments  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
Rossa won handy anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:00:11 PM
10-4 to us. 20 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
15 - 4 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 15, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
I came to this expecting some form of a game, it's poor hurling lads, Elliott seems to be getting a bit frustrated, as am I watching it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 15, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
Roll on tomorrow's game, should have saved the petrol money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
No pleasing some people.  ;)

1-15 - 0-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:30:13 PM
1-17 - 0-06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:40:47 PM
2-21 - 0-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
2-23 to 0-11 full time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2012, 07:20:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
Rossa won handy anyway.
What sort of outfit fielded for the Oisin's with those clowns away?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2012, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 15, 2012, 01:21:42 PM
Minder I heard a rumour you were going to step into the breach today...is it true?
Did you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 15, 2012, 07:43:31 PM
seems like the champions got a stiffer test from the div 2 teams than the johnnies.  man in green in black, would question ur decision making if u went to that expecting to see a match.

Elliot getting frustrated, i think that comment says it all to tell u the truth.

hear the oisins boys where exactly that.  think there were more than a few debutants

rossa are going all out for this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 15, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Cloughmills beat Gorts by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Over at the Loughgiel Johnnies match, young corner back shouldered Watson, Watson hit him in the face with the stick, umpires and linesman told Elliott what happened and he only got a yellow card? Disgusting cowardly refereeing. It was a red card all day long, completely off the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::) 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 15, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 15, 2012, 07:43:31 PM
rossa are going all out for this one
A wonderful touch of luck to be handed a virtual walkover in a game that we were not fancied to win.

Really sets up the decider at our place. Both teams would be confident they could win it. Hope our lads can grab it by the balls and get over the line.

Didn't think we'd be anywhere near here early on in the season.
I can't imagine a lot of the Glenariffe boys will be too happy about it either after knocking their pan in all season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
wasn't at it, but no doubt it was the worst atrocity ever witnessed on a hurling field.

I'll save you the bother, I've been told he was lucky to stay on. It happens, not justifying anything, but it does happen in most games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 10:04:54 PM
Should be a great game tomorrow. Hopefully the weather holds up. I'm going with a car load of dunloy supporters. What have I let myself in for? :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 15, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
Cloughmills beat Gorts by 1
great win for the biddies. hopefully they'll go a step further this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 16, 2012, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
wasn't at it, but no doubt it was the worst atrocity ever witnessed on a hurling field.

I'll save you the bother, I've been told he was lucky to stay on. It happens, not justifying anything, but it does happen in most games.

Was at the game myself. Loughgiel obviously superior all over as score suggests. Barney ran the show and hit some great scores. St Johns dry very poor and been disarray in camp last few weeks with players quitting etc. 2 Johnstons were in programme to start but weren't seen.

On the Watson incident. Was called exactly as a poster stated above. He took a shoulder and turned round and drive the bas of the hurl into the face of the St Johns defender. Now SIE you have said that you weren't at the game, and told that he did indeed deserve the red card which is just right. To say that happens in every game is a complete lie. Your posters were in arms about a tackle on James a few weeks ago and this was in the similar mould, serious hospital treatment could have been needed.

Should have been looking at a fair suspension and I think it's fair to say you got the luck of the green on that one. Questions to be asked about the call by the red and his team of officials. If one of them had saw it then it should have been red. If none saw it then no action should have been taken. I do not know how a yellow card could be issued for this type of offense. I won't comment in issue again for fear of saying I have a broken needle.....

Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Hopeful of a victory and if we are to win I think it will be of a narrow margin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
St Paul's will give Tir Na Og all they want, will be a close affair but I'm going for St Paul's.

Gorts seemed to have turned a corner lately but will not get it easy against a stubborn Biddies team, I'm going for the 2 shocks

Fair play MR2. Good calls!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 16, 2012, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
wasn't at it, but no doubt it was the worst atrocity ever witnessed on a hurling field.

I'll save you the bother, I've been told he was lucky to stay on. It happens, not justifying anything, but it does happen in most games.

Was at the game myself. Loughgiel obviously superior all over as score suggests. Barney ran the show and hit some great scores. St Johns dry very poor and been disarray in camp last few weeks with players quitting etc. 2 Johnstons were in programme to start but weren't seen.

On the Watson incident. Was called exactly as a poster stated above. He took a shoulder and turned round and drive the bas of the hurl into the face of the St Johns defender. Now SIE you have said that you weren't at the game, and told that he did indeed deserve the red card which is just right. To say that happens in every game is a complete lie. Your posters were in arms about a tackle on James a few weeks ago and this was in the similar mould, serious hospital treatment could have been needed.

Should have been looking at a fair suspension and I think it's fair to say you got the luck of the green on that one. Questions to be asked about the call by the red and his team of officials. If one of them had saw it then it should have been red. If none saw it then no action should have been taken. I do not know how a yellow card could be issued for this type of offense. I won't comment in issue again for fear of saying I have a broken needle.....

Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Hopeful of a victory and if we are to win I think it will be of a narrow margin
I wasn't defending the incident colonel, I was referring to the fact that players get away with things in every game behind the refs back. I maybe wasn't clear on that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 16, 2012, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
wasn't at it, but no doubt it was the worst atrocity ever witnessed on a hurling field.

I'll save you the bother, I've been told he was lucky to stay on. It happens, not justifying anything, but it does happen in most games.

Was at the game myself. Loughgiel obviously superior all over as score suggests. Barney ran the show and hit some great scores. St Johns dry very poor and been disarray in camp last few weeks with players quitting etc. 2 Johnstons were in programme to start but weren't seen.

On the Watson incident. Was called exactly as a poster stated above. He took a shoulder and turned round and drive the bas of the hurl into the face of the St Johns defender. Now SIE you have said that you weren't at the game, and told that he did indeed deserve the red card which is just right. To say that happens in every game is a complete lie. Your posters were in arms about a tackle on James a few weeks ago and this was in the similar mould, serious hospital treatment could have been needed.

Should have been looking at a fair suspension and I think it's fair to say you got the luck of the green on that one. Questions to be asked about the call by the red and his team of officials. If one of them had saw it then it should have been red. If none saw it then no action should have been taken. I do not know how a yellow card could be issued for this type of offense. I won't comment in issue again for fear of saying I have a broken needle.....

Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Hopeful of a victory and if we are to win I think it will be of a narrow margin
I wasn't defending the incident colonel, I was referring to the fact that players get away with things in every game behind the refs back. I maybe wasn't clear on that.

People don't hit other people on the head with their stick on purpose in most games...in fact hardly anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 16, 2012, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: the colonel on September 16, 2012, 12:02:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Can anyone else hear that record jumping?   ::)

Care to comment on the incident?

I spoke to a few shams who saw it, I will let you know what they said after you comment

Still loughgiels to lose IMO
wasn't at it, but no doubt it was the worst atrocity ever witnessed on a hurling field.

I'll save you the bother, I've been told he was lucky to stay on. It happens, not justifying anything, but it does happen in most games.

Was at the game myself. Loughgiel obviously superior all over as score suggests. Barney ran the show and hit some great scores. St Johns dry very poor and been disarray in camp last few weeks with players quitting etc. 2 Johnstons were in programme to start but weren't seen.

On the Watson incident. Was called exactly as a poster stated above. He took a shoulder and turned round and drive the bas of the hurl into the face of the St Johns defender. Now SIE you have said that you weren't at the game, and told that he did indeed deserve the red card which is just right. To say that happens in every game is a complete lie. Your posters were in arms about a tackle on James a few weeks ago and this was in the similar mould, serious hospital treatment could have been needed.

Should have been looking at a fair suspension and I think it's fair to say you got the luck of the green on that one. Questions to be asked about the call by the red and his team of officials. If one of them had saw it then it should have been red. If none saw it then no action should have been taken. I do not know how a yellow card could be issued for this type of offense. I won't comment in issue again for fear of saying I have a broken needle.....

Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Hopeful of a victory and if we are to win I think it will be of a narrow margin
I wasn't defending the incident colonel, I was referring to the fact that players get away with things in every game behind the refs back. I maybe wasn't clear on that.

People don't hit other people on the head with their stick on purpose in most games...in fact hardly anyone.
Well apart from you know who!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 01:08:32 AM
Sadly never made te game the night but what I heard from people who were, and on here, I'm glad I didn't. Total mismatch, as it has been in all lgiels games. Try are far too good for that side of the draw so it got them an easier route to the final.
On the 'red card incident' I heard from 4 different people that it was a dwf straight red. Lucky boy indeed.
Roll on tomorrows game. Nothing between the two teams IMO so should hopefully be a good one and we get though.
A 1 point win to us!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 01:52:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
What have you got against that Ballymena club?
:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Sure SIE can you not remember the dalls last game there golden child should of got line for the  same act!!  and we were all on here giving out!!!!!!   NOT!!!!   f**k me. Witch hunt out against Liam.      Everyone does wrong.  Think our dall posters should look apon there own club as past while before they start yapping !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2012, 07:17:09 AM
Other people have done it but other people don't have a track record of doing it. What about the time against Tipp when he drove the butt of the stick into a mans face through the helmet? The Cork game? Now this. Everybody must have said the same thing too him as John Gardiner did and sure you wouldn't blame him after that :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 08:34:06 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2012, 07:17:09 AM
Other people have done it but other people don't have a track record of doing it. What about the time against Tipp when he drove the butt of the stick into a mans face through the helmet? The Cork game? Now this. Everybody must have said the same thing too him as John Gardiner did and sure you wouldn't blame him after that :P
Ulster's hurler of the century certainly had a track record of doing it. Ask our ballycastle and dunloy contributors jj.

Anyway, how go you think yous will do today against dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Sure SIE can you not remember the dalls last game there golden child should of got line for the  same act!!  and we were all on here giving out!!!!!!   NOT!!!!   f**k me. Witch hunt out against Liam.      Everyone does wrong.  Think our dall posters should look apon there own club as past while before they start yapping !!

I'm not a Dall poster and I'm not yapping. If anyone should stop anything it should be you boys with the persecution complex/paranoia about people commenting on someone driving someone else in the head with the hurl.

It is indefensible. The "aucchh but sure he said this to him/sure people get away with it in every game/look what your boy did last year" etc doesn't wash and no one is being overly dramatic.

What it is also was, was a complete slap in the face of his teammates. As Hardstation says...in a match they were always going to beat the other team out the gate he chose to do that. Don't care who he is - on any team, in any sport in the world it was choosing himself over the team, showing disregard for those around him and potentially seriously injuring another player.

If my son did that I would walk on the field, take the hurl off him and him off the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Sure SIE can you not remember the dalls last game there golden child should of got line for the  same act!!  and we were all on here giving out!!!!!!   NOT!!!!   f**k me. Witch hunt out against Liam.      Everyone does wrong.  Think our dall posters should look apon there own club as past while before they start yapping !!

I'm not a Dall poster and I'm not yapping. If anyone should stop anything it should be you boys with the persecution complex/paranoia about people commenting on someone driving someone else in the head with the hurl.

It is indefensible. The "aucchh but sure he said this to him/sure people get away with it in every game/look what your boy did last year" etc doesn't wash and no one is being overly dramatic.

What it is also was, was a complete slap in the face of his teammates. As Hardstation says...in a match they were always going to beat the other team out the gate he chose to do that. Don't care who he is - on any team, in any sport in the world it was choosing himself over the team, showing disregard for those around him and potentially seriously injuring another player.

If my son did that I would walk on the field, take the hurl off him and him off the pitch.
Excuse me glensman, please don't throw all  "us boys" into the same group. Where did I defend his actions in this instance? I haven't, but you, the same as every other "expert" on here, have chosen to totally ignore that. The fact is, whether you like it or not, players get away with things on the field in almost every game. Again, this is not an attempt to defend him or his actions in what should have been a red card incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2012, 09:50:02 AM
My gripe here is actually with the referee. Elliott was told by both umpire and linesman what happened and chose not to send him off. He is supposed to be one of the top refs in Ulster and he actually trains new referees, what sort of message does this send out to them? Top referee bottles a decision when a player strikes another player in the face with a hurl off the ball? Actually I'm not surprised by Watson's actions and yes others have done it as well but when our hurler of the century did it he got a years suspension. Watson got a yellow card. Remeber DD hitting an umpire at the start of the year and didn't even get booked? Double standards? I think so.


As far as us and Dunloy goes, too tight to call. I know we've trained well and put huge effort in but a bit like Dunloy we are a team in transition. We have very few players in the 26-29 bracket where players usually are at peak performance. We have a few 30+ men and the rest are young. We certainly wouldn't have the strength in depth from previous years. We'd have 11 or 12 regulars who would be every bit as good as anyone else it depends how the 3 newer lads perform. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2012, 09:50:02 AM
My gripe here is actually with the referee. Elliott was told by both umpire and linesman what happened and chose not to send him off. He is supposed to be one of the top refs in Ulster and he actually trains new referees, what sort of message does this send out to them? Top referee bottles a decision when a player strikes another player in the face with a hurl off the ball? Actually I'm not surprised by Watson's actions and yes others have done it as well but when our hurler of the century did it he got a years suspension. Watson got a yellow card. Remeber DD hitting an umpire at the start of the year and didn't even get booked? Double standards? I think so.


As far as us and Dunloy goes, too tight to call. I know we've trained well and put huge effort in but a bit like Dunloy we are a team in transition. We have very few players in the 26-29 bracket where players usually are at peak performance. We have a few 30+ men and the rest are young. We certainly wouldn't have the strength in depth from previous years. We'd have 11 or 12 regulars who would be every bit as good as anyone else it depends how the 3 newer lads perform.
It should be a good, tight game alright. I think it will go down to the wire, could end up a draw, but I'm going with a 1 or 2 point win for Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 16, 2012, 10:35:18 AM
on yesterdays "incident" i wont comment. every dog in the street knows how it went. in SIE defence he wasnt there & has in no way defended the actions. the whole thing is done & dusted. personally if we manage to get past dunloy today i would prefer to challenge loughguile with their full outfit regardless of the outcome & i would presume any dunloy supporters would be of a similar opinion. i really hope that todays game is a cracker cause god knows antrim hurling needs it. i can only speak for myself but the only 2 games even remotely worth watching this year were our minor c'ship loss to the Johnnies & last weeks league loss to the shammrocks. hopefully our fortunes will change today!!!!   good luck to both teams & lets hope that whoever wins can progress with a full squad to pick from in the final. as a footnote i would like to congatulate the county executive for completely ignoring the hollow yelpings of that eejit johnston in relation the county managers job. if nothing else yesterday has shown what a spoilt brat that man is. to let your club take the field for a c'ship semi final with players who had both retired & werent getting a game for the reserves is at best disgraceful. the johnnies have a proud tradition & im sure it was hard to watch knowing that they were peeing up the proverbial post before they even started. the result would never have been in doubt no matter who had played but everyone was robbed of at least a gutsy challenge because one man threw the toys outta the pram. it would defo be hard to do but in my opinion the johnnies should call his bluff & cut him & his ilk loose. would it be a goer if we started an online collection here to maybe replace the dummy he has thrown out?? if so send all donations to www.imaspoiltbratandif idontgetmywaythennobodycanplayforanybodyinthewholeworlduntiligetmyway.com. ps up the'Dall!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Sure SIE can you not remember the dalls last game there golden child should of got line for the  same act!!  and we were all on here giving out!!!!!!   NOT!!!!   f**k me. Witch hunt out against Liam.      Everyone does wrong.  Think our dall posters should look apon there own club as past while before they start yapping !!

I'm not a Dall poster and I'm not yapping. If anyone should stop anything it should be you boys with the persecution complex/paranoia about people commenting on someone driving someone else in the head with the hurl.

It is indefensible. The "aucchh but sure he said this to him/sure people get away with it in every game/look what your boy did last year" etc doesn't wash and no one is being overly dramatic.

What it is also was, was a complete slap in the face of his teammates. As Hardstation says...in a match they were always going to beat the other team out the gate he chose to do that. Don't care who he is - on any team, in any sport in the world it was choosing himself over the team, showing disregard for those around him and potentially seriously injuring another player.

If my son did that I would walk on the field, take the hurl off him and him off the pitch.
Excuse me glensman, please don't throw all  "us boys" into the same group. Where did I defend his actions in this instance? I haven't, but you, the same as every other "expert" on here, have chosen to totally ignore that. The fact is, whether you like it or not, players get away with things on the field in almost every game. Again, this is not an attempt to defend him or his actions in what should have been a red card incident.

I'm not an expert...from from it. In my book (a non expert book) "it happens" and "people get away with it" is as good as defending it.That might be a jump but there you have it!

Hopefully a good, tight, hard game of hurling today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
I think Cushendall will win this by at least 4, Dunloy just don't have the players anymore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 05:15:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 01:40:36 AM
Jesus christ lads, I never said he didn't do it deliberately, nor did I say that people hit other players around the head in every game either. I said he got away with it, other players get away with things too, that's what I'm saying. FFS, Yous are all saints of course.  ::)
Sure SIE can you not remember the dalls last game there golden child should of got line for the  same act!!  and we were all on here giving out!!!!!!   NOT!!!!   f**k me. Witch hunt out against Liam.      Everyone does wrong.  Think our dall posters should look apon there own club as past while before they start yapping !!

I'm not a Dall poster and I'm not yapping. If anyone should stop anything it should be you boys with the persecution complex/paranoia about people commenting on someone driving someone else in the head with the hurl.

It is indefensible. The "aucchh but sure he said this to him/sure people get away with it in every game/look what your boy did last year" etc doesn't wash and no one is being overly dramatic.

What it is also was, was a complete slap in the face of his teammates. As Hardstation says...in a match they were always going to beat the other team out the gate he chose to do that. Don't care who he is - on any team, in any sport in the world it was choosing himself over the team, showing disregard for those around him and potentially seriously injuring another player.

If my son did that I would walk on the field, take the hurl off him and him off the pitch.
Excuse me glensman, please don't throw all  "us boys" into the same group. Where did I defend his actions in this instance? I haven't, but you, the same as every other "expert" on here, have chosen to totally ignore that. The fact is, whether you like it or not, players get away with things on the field in almost every game. Again, this is not an attempt to defend him or his actions in what should have been a red card incident.

I'm not an expert...from from it. In my book (a non expert book) "it happens" and "people get away with it" is as good as defending it.That might be a jump but there you have it!

Hopefully a good, tight, hard game of hurling today.
No, you're wrong on this. I qualified those particular comments by stating that I wan't referring to the particular incident in this case but to some incidents in general. Things do go on behind referee's backs. Fact. That was my point. And, as I have also previously stated, perhaps I didn't make that clear in my original post.

I'd have thought I would have only have had to explain that once, obviously not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 03:58:46 PM
Plenty of opinions as usual lads!
I hoped to get to glenarife and ballycastle yesterday but as it turned out got nowhere!
Seems from Talkin to johnnies men winker should have seen red and in fairness the shamrocks are not disputing that. Altho if a young lad wants to stand in senior hurling championship and put a hurl into a lads ribs he shouldn't expect to get away with it - and I'm not excusing winker at all before anyone starts! I think temperament is obviously Watsons problem and equally he shouldn't be surprised if other teams exploit that. He won't get away with that stroke in the final.

How did the division 2 game go hardstation / minder?
Who played & who didn't? Was it a procession or does it tell us anything before next week?
I won't miss that fixture for sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:00:39 PM
Dunloy 1-4 Dall 1-3. 20 mins gone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 16, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
I see one of the posters on here has got himself a job today at croker  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
1-8 to 1-4 to dunloy half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 04:25:21 PM
3-08 to 1-04 to dunloy now. Goal from Kevin mc Quillan and a Paul shields pen to dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:29:27 PM
3-8 to 1-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
For the players they have cushendall have been pathetic in recent years. Is something wrong up there lads it's just not getting produced on the pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 16, 2012, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
St Paul's will give Tir Na Og all they want, will be a close affair but I'm going for St Paul's.

Gorts seemed to have turned a corner lately but will not get it easy against a stubborn Biddies team, I'm going for the 2 shocks

Fair play MR2. Good calls!

Backed them and stuck Some odds on team in it also, Odds on team stuffed FFS!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2012, 04:37:31 PM
4-8 to 1-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 04:40:10 PM
4-09 to 2-07 to dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Can anyone explain why the Janty boys weren't playing the other night? It's a crazy situation they have going on there. Will ruin the club in the end.

I think Cushendall have not bother to play. Maybe didn't want to lose another final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 16, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
Dall comeback on??? St Galls last year :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
For the players they have cushendall have been pathetic in recent years. Is something wrong up there lads it's just not getting produced on the pitch?
Pathetic is a bit strong. They weren't far away last year.

They have lost 3finals in a row - collapsed last year threw it away.
Must have been poor today.
Look at their teamsheet - thats been a terrible return on the pitch in recent years.
I wonder is there a reason that's all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 04:43:15 PM
Oops 4-08 I ment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
Maybe they will be back knocking the door at Rossa hardstation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
For the players they have cushendall have been pathetic in recent years. Is something wrong up there lads it's just not getting produced on the pitch?
Pathetic is a bit strong. They weren't far away last year.

They have lost 3finals in a row - collapsed last year threw it away.
Must have been poor today.
Look at their teamsheet - thats been a terrible return on the pitch in recent years.
I wonder is there a reason that's all.
There are two main reasons, Dunloy and loughiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 04:44:55 PM
4-09 to 2-08 now.
6 left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Can anyone explain why the Janty boys weren't playing the other night? It's a crazy situation they have going on there. Will ruin the club in the end.

I think Cushendall have not bother to play. Maybe didn't want to lose another final
I'm wondering if they'll be playing in the minor. Sure they may as well give them their medals now, eh, milltown?

You'll have a chance then HS but bit early yet for your young lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on September 16, 2012, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Can anyone explain why the Janty boys weren't playing the other night? It's a crazy situation they have going on there. Will ruin the club in the end.

I think Cushendall have not bother to play. Maybe didn't want to lose another final

Ciaran has just moved down to DCU to begin university, he moved down yesterday morning as it was only available time to move in as he begins this week. Conor picked up an injury in the minor football final the night before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on September 16, 2012, 04:49:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
Can anyone explain why the Janty boys weren't playing the other night? It's a crazy situation they have going on there. Will ruin the club in the end.

I think Cushendall have not bother to play. Maybe didn't want to lose another final

Ciaran has just moved down to DCU to begin university, he moved down yesterday morning as it was only available time to move in as he begins this week. Conor picked up an injury in the minor football final the night before.

Oh right, simple answer then. Thats the minor double done then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Dunloy win by 6 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 04:55:05 PM
Dunloy win 4-11 to 2-11!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Dunloy win by 6 points.

Big shock in fairness, Dunloy haven't gone away ya know. Should be a tasty final. Loughgiel will relish trying to get one over their near neighbours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Unreal result for dunloy! I hold my hands up, maybe just judging this dunloy team on dunloy teams of past.  Back in a county final after couple of poor years.   Fair play!   Mon the shamrocks!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
I see Birr got beat in Offaly semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
Alot of credit must go to Mushy on this one, could have possibly should have been knocked out by the Town.  great turn around from Dunloy to beat a fancied Dall team with some big names.  looked as if a spirited comeback was on the cards but goals were the killers.  look forward to a hum dinger with bad banners both on and off the field at the county final.  still reckon the shams will do a three in a row in some style to.  great crowd at the game today, but still think Ballycastle would be better venue for escaping traffic, we are still stuck in this f**king field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
Alot of credit must go to Mushy on this one, could have possibly should have been knocked out by the Town.  great turn around from Dunloy to beat a fancied Dall team with some big names.  looked as if a spirited comeback was on the cards but goals were the killers.  look forward to a hum dinger with bad banners both on and off the field at the county final.  still reckon the shams will do a three in a row in some style to.  great crowd at the game today, but still think Ballycastle would be better venue for escaping traffic, we are still stuck in this f**king field
you should try getting out of Armoy. I said at the start of the year that mushy would make a difference to that dunloy team. It sets up a terrific final under the floodlights in casement. The atmosphere should be electric and will be a close contest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
Alot of credit must go to Mushy on this one, could have possibly should have been knocked out by the Town.  great turn around from Dunloy to beat a fancied Dall team with some big names.  looked as if a spirited comeback was on the cards but goals were the killers.  look forward to a hum dinger with bad banners both on and off the field at the county final.  still reckon the shams will do a three in a row in some style to.  great crowd at the game today, but still think Ballycastle would be better venue for escaping traffic, we are still stuck in this f**king field
you should try getting out of Armoy. I said at the start of the year that mushy would make a difference to that dunloy team. It sets up a terrific final under the floodlights in casement. The atmosphere should be electric and will be a close contest.

forgot about that (under the lights) u would take it if you get the same result as the last time u played under lights.  Still think it should be on a sunday during daylight.  elliot of duffy as referee.  Will herbie get a big final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:40:35 PM
To be honest I think both teams won't mind where or when. I'll tell you one thing, dunloy like playing championship hurling in loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 05:51:57 PM
Very happy with the result. Not shocked at all although a lot of our doubters did. We have steadily improved over the last 2 months with the players taking it up a level each time.

Gona be a great final I hope. Form means nothing in these games and it goes put the window when we play each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 16, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 04:45:44 PM
Transfers between the two clubs shouldn't happen IMO.

I think its embarrassing seeing people leave their clubs for neighbours, especially in the city. Moral fibre in question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 16, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
Not that surprised looking back at it, Cushendall beat Glenariffe by a goal last season in the QF, St Galls by a pt in the semi, people are reading too much into them running Loughgiel close. It was a poor final but Loughguile improved beyond all recognition after that, does anyone think Cushendall had that progression in them if they had beat Loughguile??

They have McManus, Graffin and Shane mcNaughton but the rest are average enough. Results don't lie. Dunloy will be a very dangerous proposition for Loughgiel but Shamrocks should edge it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
The last 15 minutes of that final were top class.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2012, 06:20:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
The last 15 minutes of that final were top class.  ;)
funny I liked the last 15 also  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
I see Birr got beat in Offaly semi final.

Coolderry out also last week. Ulster get Connacht this year in the semi final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2012, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
I see Birr got beat in Offaly semi final.

Coolderry out also last week. Ulster get Connacht this year in the semi final?
yep
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 16, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
Took a run to both semis. Loughgiel just to good for the johnnies and Dunloy fully deserving of the victory against a heartless cushendall. Looking forward to the meeting of my two neighbours.

Ps did anyone see a certain mr Fitzgerald on Dunloy line today? WTF?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 08:47:42 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on September 16, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
Took a run to both semis. Loughgiel just to good for the johnnies and Dunloy fully deserving of the victory against a heartless cushendall. Looking forward to the meeting of my two neighbours.

Ps did anyone see a certain mr Fitzgerald on Dunloy line today? WTF?
Toto
he's been about on and off for a few months. Seen him and mushy swallowing a few in the bridge a couple of months ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
He has been there for quite some time. Helping out. Nothing more than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 16, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
He has been there for quite some time. Helping out. Nothing more than that.
I didn't notice him until a dunloy man standing beside me says look Davys on the line now. Has he been coaching the team? Dunloy looked fit and playing a 'hand passy' kind of game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
Dunloy could almost have scored a goal every time they attacked. Can't believe how bad cushendall were. It was only 6 on the scoreboard but was more in reality.

One of cushendall's goals happened in the first minute or two as well when the Dunloy keeper stepped back over the line.

Be no love lost in the final that's for sure.

Yes hoof.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 16, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2012, 09:38:52 PM
Dunloy could almost have scored a goal every time they attacked. Can't believe how bad cushendall were. It was only 6 on the scoreboard but was more in reality.

One of cushendall's goals happened in the first minute or two as well when the Dunloy keeper stepped back over the line.

Be no love lost in the final that's for sure.

Yes hoof.

Cushendall defence a pale shadow of what it was a few years ago. Keeper not as reliable as he once was either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Yep. 7.30 in casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 16, 2012, 10:13:48 PM
Heard Dunloy flew wee Davy up by helicopter last weekend for a session, him and mushy are good mates! Should be an interesting final 50/50 call I'd say!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Yep. 7.30 in casement

Anything before that final on the saturday night ?

Davy fitz ??? didn't notice him though he wouldn't be the tallest

really tees up a hell of a final, i suppose looking at the dall record from last year we maybe shouldn't be as surprised.  Still am though.  Dunloy have improved greatly from Ballycastle game, although felt town had them that evening, don't think they would have beat Cushendall. 

Kind of a crossroads for the Dall, i would say Scullion will go, thought the last 15 mins of last years final highlighted that, nor have the Dall much on the bench.  Know AMacAteer there on the line, lots of other boys running about for show i think.  Seems to be the trend nowadays.

Will the Millennium Centre we getting a polish for that Saturday nite then, does the club provide in the drink to make a profit, if so i would say it would be a great money spinner for the shamrocks.  How much did they lift after all last years nites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Yep. 7.30 in casement

Anything before that final on the saturday night ?

Davy fitz ??? didn't notice him though he wouldn't be the tallest

really tees up a hell of a final, i suppose looking at the dall record from last year we maybe shouldn't be as surprised.  Still am though.  Dunloy have improved greatly from Ballycastle game, although felt town had them that evening, don't think they would have beat Cushendall. 

Kind of a crossroads for the Dall, i would say Scullion will go, thought the last 15 mins of last years final highlighted that, nor have the Dall much on the bench.  Know AMacAteer there on the line, lots of other boys running about for show i think.  Seems to be the trend nowadays.

Will the Millennium Centre we getting a polish for that Saturday nite then, does the club provide in the drink to make a profit, if so i would say it would be a great money spinner for the shamrocks.  How much did they lift after all last years nites.
Going by this post are you thinking it's a nailed on cert that we'll win it? Well, it isn't. I've been saying all year about how Dunloy will improve under mushy and how they're a different team in the championship. It would be a fool who thinks that the final won't be a close game, because it will. It always is between us and them. It's got all the makings of classic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 10:50:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Yep. 7.30 in casement

Anything before that final on the saturday night ?

Davy fitz ??? didn't notice him though he wouldn't be the tallest

really tees up a hell of a final, i suppose looking at the dall record from last year we maybe shouldn't be as surprised.  Still am though.  Dunloy have improved greatly from Ballycastle game, although felt town had them that evening, don't think they would have beat Cushendall. 

Kind of a crossroads for the Dall, i would say Scullion will go, thought the last 15 mins of last years final highlighted that, nor have the Dall much on the bench.  Know AMacAteer there on the line, lots of other boys running about for show i think.  Seems to be the trend nowadays.

Will the Millennium Centre we getting a polish for that Saturday nite then, does the club provide in the drink to make a profit, if so i would say it would be a great money spinner for the shamrocks.  How much did they lift after all last years nites.
Going by this post are you thinking it's a nailed on cert that we'll win it? Well, it isn't. I've been saying all year about how Dunloy will improve under mushy and how they're a different team in the championship. It would be a fool who thinks that the final won't be a close game, because it will. It always is between us and them. It's got all the makings of classic.

rate u as hot favourites though certainly anything could happen, especially with the nature of a derby.  But my questions on centre and club remain

feel if shams win it a large contingent will head to the town, still a little ill feeling about there last celebration when winning a county final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2012, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 16, 2012, 10:42:44 PM
Can't see past a Loch gCaol win myself but should be a good aul game.

If I was in charge of Dunloy, I'd forget about Winker and have the whole village chasing the tanned legs of Barney McAuley. He's they boy who makes Loch gCaol tick. Hoor is a great reader of the game and always has acres of space. Spoil, spoil, spoil.

That said, I will admit that if I was in charge of Dunloy, we'd get tanked.

+1
Eddie is the big threat Barney sits in the pocket and picks of handy points, either a spoiler or someone to run the legs off him!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 17, 2012, 07:44:58 AM
Good win, not a great win. Big performance needed the next day but traditionally we save our best for County Finals!

Credit to Eamon Hasson, don't think either team could have a complaint, though it must've been a very tight goal to award against us!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 17, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 17, 2012, 07:44:58 AM
Good win, not a great win. Big performance needed the next day but traditionally we save our best for County Finals!

Credit to Eamon Hasson, don't think either team could have a complaint, though it must've been a very tight goal to award against us!

Here Here Max, the game was by no means a classic, but Hasson didn't put a foot wrong and was on the ball the whole game as where his umpires on the goal incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Is there a match on before the county final? If not why in gods name play it in the dark?
Why not play it at half 3 on sat instead.
I see no sense in having to take small kids to Belfast at night for a game. Only one side of the grounds allowed to be open anyway is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 17, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 16, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 16, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
When is the final ? Sat 29th ?
Yep. 7.30 in casement

Anything before that final on the saturday night ?

Davy fitz ??? didn't notice him though he wouldn't be the tallest

really tees up a hell of a final, i suppose looking at the dall record from last year we maybe shouldn't be as surprised.  Still am though.  Dunloy have improved greatly from Ballycastle game, although felt town had them that evening, don't think they would have beat Cushendall. 

Kind of a crossroads for the Dall, i would say Scullion will go, thought the last 15 mins of last years final highlighted that, nor have the Dall much on the bench.  Know AMacAteer there on the line, lots of other boys running about for show i think.  Seems to be the trend nowadays.

Will the Millennium Centre we getting a polish for that Saturday nite then, does the club provide in the drink to make a profit, if so i would say it would be a great money spinner for the shamrocks.  How much did they lift after all last years nites.

Ballycastle put Cushendall away by a considerable score only a few weeks ago.  The Town would of disposed of the Dall in the same fashion Dunloy did. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 09:47:17 AM
Good win for Dunloy yesterday, sets up a big final.  Looking forward to it.

Loughgiel have a poor rrcord against Dunloy in Championship finals over the past few years and will be wanting to put that right.  I think it will be a close match with little in it either way.

On the match itself, Cusendalls defence seemed quite porous (maybe doing an injustice to some of Dunloys play).  Kevin McQuillan has turned into a fine hurler with physique to match. He was always more of a footballer but seems to have honed his skills well.

Could any of the Dunloy posters list their starting 15 for me?  Some players I didn't know hurling yesterday and nicknames aren't best reference point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 17, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
Congrats to Dunloy. Fully worth there win. The Dall looked flat and never up to Dunloys workrate. And a few posters here saw the odds on team bein beat. Think Dunloy will have to improve a good bit more to beat the Shams but it should still be a close game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 11:05:12 AM
Also just a quick one for Cusendall posters.  Paddy McNaughton seems to have backwards in his development, he was some player when he burst on the scene a few years ago and was only young then.  Doesn't seem to have built on that start at senior level.

I thought he would of been a stalwart of this team by now.  What has happened there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Castlecamog league form don't count for shit as Dunloy showed all year.   Dall would have beat use by 10 points.  Looking forward to a tasty game under floodlight.  I'd take same outcome as last time we played under it,   A Wed night in casement if memory serves correct.  Best I've seen us play up until last feb and march.   As someone said. Form goes out the window when we meet, who ever wants it most,   Dunloy mad to "put us back in our place" as was quoted yesterday and the shamrocks mad for 3 in a row and to finally get one over are neighbours.  Canny wait!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
The official Antrim GAA page has to be a parody of an official site.  I refer to the person who moderates / replies to posters on the guest book.  An example below:

Question
are the county serious fixing hurling matches at 3.30 next sunday during the football all ireland. I thought we were all in this together

Answer
This is more a case of you being on a different planet than those with some degree of sanity, at least. It is astounding how many are now only coming round to the realisation that club fixtures have been in place for this Sunday all year!Have they been in some sort of catatonic stupor until today? Welcome to the real world then!

If you were a youngster with a genuine question to ask, the attitiude of this person would definitely put you off.  Seems to have a serious chip on his/her shoulder for some reason.  I'd imagine some posts are repetitive and some maybe down right nonsense but that doesn't mean you have to reply in an over the top rant.

I don't know who controls the site but surely if it is administered directly by the County they should appoint someone with a degree of wit and patience to reply to the posters there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 11:05:12 AM
Also just a quick one for Cusendall posters.  Paddy McNaughton seems to have backwards in his development, he was some player when he burst on the scene a few years ago and was only young then.  Doesn't seem to have built on that start at senior level.

I thought he would of been a stalwart of this team by now.  What has happened there?

Would playing NMcM in the half back line not be a lot better for Cushendall? I think he runs too much up front and gets closed down a lot quicker. If he were center half back he'd release the ball a lot quicker, just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
The official Antrim GAA page has to be a parody of an official site.  I refer to the person who moderates / replies to posters on the guest book.  An example below:

Question
are the county serious fixing hurling matches at 3.30 next sunday during the football all ireland. I thought we were all in this together

Answer
This is more a case of you being on a different planet than those with some degree of sanity, at least. It is astounding how many are now only coming round to the realisation that club fixtures have been in place for this Sunday all year!Have they been in some sort of catatonic stupor until today? Welcome to the real world then!

If you were a youngster with a genuine question to ask, the attitiude of this person would definitely put you off.  Seems to have a serious chip on his/her shoulder for some reason.  I'd imagine some posts are repetitive and some maybe down right nonsense but that doesn't mean you have to reply in an over the top rant.

I don't know who controls the site but surely if it is administered directly by the County they should appoint someone with a degree of wit and patience to reply to the posters there.
I know of people from the south that read our county site specifically to read his/her rants. It's embarrassing but the county don't seem to mind the image portrayed to others. Also their use of sporadic Irish terms on one hand (sin e) and English phraseology on the other (hogwash, horlicks etc) is quite comical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Is there a match on before the county final? If not why in gods name play it in the dark?
Why not play it at half 3 on sat instead.
I see no sense in having to take small kids to Belfast at night for a game. Only one side of the grounds allowed to be open anyway is it not?

Assuming Casement could handle it and reckon it could I would have suggested the Junior, Intermediate and Senior be played that Saturday 29th (or Sunday if it hadn't been for All Ireland). 4pm, 6pm, 8pm. An Antrim festival of hurling. People would not gripe for £10 in.

Ps congrats to Endas Last Man. Fair play to Dunloy as well - fully deserved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Is there a match on before the county final? If not why in gods name play it in the dark?
Why not play it at half 3 on sat instead.
I see no sense in having to take small kids to Belfast at night for a game. Only one side of the grounds allowed to be open anyway is it not?

Assuming Casement could handle it and reckon it could I would have suggested the Junior, Intermediate and Senior be played that Saturday 29th (or Sunday if it hadn't been for All Ireland). 4pm, 6pm, 8pm. An Antrim festival of hurling. People would not gripe for £10 in.

Ps congrats to Endas Last Man. Fair play to Dunloy as well - fully deserved.

But did he play? A bit kat playing all these years and the team finally gets to a final at Casement!!!  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 09:47:17 AM
Good win for Dunloy yesterday, sets up a big final.  Looking forward to it.

Loughgiel have a poor rrcord against Dunloy in Championship finals over the past few years and will be wanting to put that right.  I think it will be a close match with little in it either way.

On the match itself, Cusendalls defence seemed quite porous (maybe doing an injustice to some of Dunloys play).  Kevin McQuillan has turned into a fine hurler with physique to match. He was always more of a footballer but seems to have honed his skills well.

Could any of the Dunloy posters list their starting 15 for me?  Some players I didn't know hurling yesterday and nicknames aren't best reference point.
Dunloy team was Nicky mc Keague, Mickey mc Clemments, James mc keague, Paudie shivers, Kevin mc Keague, Kevin Molloy, Conor mc kinley, séan dowds, Colum cunning, Kevin mc Quillan, Paul shields, Liam Richmond, Nigel Elliott, paddy Richmond, paddy Doherty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 17, 2012, 09:47:17 AM
Good win for Dunloy yesterday, sets up a big final.  Looking forward to it.

Loughgiel have a poor rrcord against Dunloy in Championship finals over the past few years and will be wanting to put that right.  I think it will be a close match with little in it either way.

On the match itself, Cusendalls defence seemed quite porous (maybe doing an injustice to some of Dunloys play).  Kevin McQuillan has turned into a fine hurler with physique to match. He was always more of a footballer but seems to have honed his skills well.

Could any of the Dunloy posters list their starting 15 for me?  Some players I didn't know hurling yesterday and nicknames aren't best reference point.
Dunloy team was Nicky mc Keague, Mickey mc Clemments, James mc keague, Paudie shivers, Kevin mc Keague, Kevin Molloy, Conor mc kinley, séan dowds, Colum cunning, Kevin mc Quillan, Paul shields, Liam Richmond, Nigel Elliott, paddy Richmond, paddy Doherty.

Thanks.  Name I was looking for was the CF Nigel Elliot. A son of Nigel's I assume?  Not the biggest but going to be a great hurler.

The final could be decided by the subs both teams have at their disposal.

Loughgiel have Dan McCloskey, Duck McFadden, Odhran McFadden and Seamy Dobbin who can come in and do a job.  The first two especially who will both be looking to push for a start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 17, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Is there a match on before the county final? If not why in gods name play it in the dark?
Why not play it at half 3 on sat instead.
I see no sense in having to take small kids to Belfast at night for a game. Only one side of the grounds allowed to be open anyway is it not?

Assuming Casement could handle it and reckon it could I would have suggested the Junior, Intermediate and Senior be played that Saturday 29th (or Sunday if it hadn't been for All Ireland). 4pm, 6pm, 8pm. An Antrim festival of hurling. People would not gripe for £10 in.

Ps congrats to Endas Last Man. Fair play to Dunloy as well - fully deserved.

But did he play? A bit kat playing all these years and the team finally gets to a final at Casement!!!  :P
Lets say I played my part ya git  ;D, looking forward to my 10 minutes (warm up) on the holy ground on Saturday ;). Thanks for your genuinely kind words Glensman.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 17, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
Firstly I have to admit I called the Dunloy result wrong, have Cushendall really went backwards over the last number of years? or are they just failing to perform on the day. What is the age profile of their overall squad?

Disappointed in the Johnnies, terrible result for them, and despite underage success, can't really see them making a breakthrough at senior. They are going well in the football though, and they may enjoy some success there over the next few years, it appears that is there priority as a club.

Mixed emotions for Belfast teams in the intermediate, on one hand great result for St Pauls - fair play to them. However I had thought Gort na Mona had turned a corner following their early season form, i'm sure they are very disappointed.

Rossa v Glenariffe on Sunday at Rossa then in the league decider, this is probably the biggest game that has been played in the 'new' division 2, as I can't remember it ever coming down to this late stage?? Despite the players missing on Sat for Glenariffe, Rossa still had a job to complete to keep their hopes alive and that was achieved, I would put them as slight favourites for Sunday despite have a very young panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
HS, any time yet for the game on sunday...are the clubs re arranging time so as not to clash with the AI final ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on September 17, 2012, 03:24:41 PM
I doubt Glenariff will be in a compromising mood considering we wouldn't change for their stag. Surely all fixtures should just be brought forward an hour or two (or day) by the organising committee. There should never be games played simultaneous to an All Ireland final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
NAG he's Nigel Elliot seniors son, your correct. First full season for the team and at 19 has a great future ahead of him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
NAG he's Nigel Elliot seniors son, your correct. First full season for the team and at 19 has a great future ahead of him

He's a quick lad, played aginst us in the reserve cup last year I think, scored a right few that night. Glad I wasn't chasing him around. Though I noticed when the under 21's played Clare he was getting caught by the Clare backs in the speed stakes. Just shows you how fit/fast those players were in that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 17, 2012, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
NAG he's Nigel Elliot seniors son, your correct. First full season for the team and at 19 has a great future ahead of him

He's a quick lad, played aginst us in the reserve cup last year I think, scored a right few that night. Glad I wasn't chasing him around. Though I noticed when the under 21's played Clare he was getting caught by the Clare backs in the speed stakes. Just shows you how fit/fast those players were in that game

I was watching the u 21 all ireland final on tg4 on Saturday night. them Clare players where even to quick for kilkenny, a serious outfit. the quality from both teams was unreal with Clare running out convincing winners. deffo an all ireland in that Clare team. they have raised the bar fitness ways to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on September 17, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 17, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Is there a match on before the county final? If not why in gods name play it in the dark?
Why not play it at half 3 on sat instead.
I see no sense in having to take small kids to Belfast at night for a game. Only one side of the grounds allowed to be open anyway is it not?

Assuming Casement could handle it and reckon it could I would have suggested the Junior, Intermediate and Senior be played that Saturday 29th (or Sunday if it hadn't been for All Ireland). 4pm, 6pm, 8pm. An Antrim festival of hurling. People would not gripe for £10 in.
Ps congrats to Endas Last Man. Fair play to Dunloy as well - fully deserved.
If there only there for the last game I'm sure they might! Dont think this is an option as the weather isn't going to improve much to allow the ground to take three games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 17, 2012, 06:55:30 PM
What do the Cushendall posters think about their demise yesterday? Is it a transitional time for them, probably Karl McKeegans last year, hard to replace experience like that if it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 17, 2012, 06:55:30 PM
What do the Cushendall posters think about their demise yesterday? Is it a transitional time for them, probably Karl McKeegans last year, hard to replace experience like that if it is.
Internet access gets intermittent around the same time the Dall get beat. Coincidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2012, 08:35:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2012, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 17, 2012, 06:55:30 PM
What do the Cushendall posters think about their demise yesterday? Is it a transitional time for them, probably Karl McKeegans last year, hard to replace experience like that if it is.
Internet access gets intermittent around the same time the Dall get beat. Coincidence?
funnily enough I'd noticed that myself.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 17, 2012, 08:55:23 PM
think the dall still a little shell shocked

the ballycastle camog talking about beating the dall, was that not when they were missing alot of hurlers in american ( a trip that helped them on) though couldn't argue lads goin like that

do loughgiel still do alot of video analysis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2012, 08:56:34 PM
We could say that about all posters when their team gets knocked out. They'll be back, posting that is :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 17, 2012, 09:01:21 PM
Just can't for the life of me see dunloy beating the shamrocks but I respect them massively - written off every year but remain a force.

Hardstation you missing both Glenarrife games? Some clubman I jest!
From what I hear u will need a big improvement to best a full strength Glenarrife team but home advantage will hopefully do that. The oisins will be ready after last weeks events no doubt about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 17, 2012, 08:55:23 PM
think the dall still a little shell shocked

the ballycastle camog talking about beating the dall, was that not when they were missing alot of hurlers in american ( a trip that helped them on) though couldn't argue lads goin like that

do loughgiel still do alot of video analysis
to be honest I haven't noticed it saffron.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 17, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
Castlecamog league form don't count for shit as Dunloy showed all year.   Dall would have beat use by 10 points.  Looking forward to a tasty game under floodlight.  I'd take same outcome as last time we played under it,   A Wed night in casement if memory serves correct.  Best I've seen us play up until last feb and march.   As someone said. Form goes out the window when we meet, who ever wants it most,   Dunloy mad to "put us back in our place" as was quoted yesterday and the shamrocks mad for 3 in a row and to finally get one over are neighbours.  Canny wait!!

Sleeping Giant u clearly think your opinion counts for shit lol 10pts.....aye right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
The game was being videoed yesterday right enough...

Cushendall were dire. Hard to know where you would start analysing that game.  I'm not sure you could say one of their players played well. Mcnaughton when he got ball was good but it was limited. Even McManus off colour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 09:24:45 PM
To say use would of done to the Dall what dunloy did is a small bit funny.   No harm intended.  Town has a few very good hurlers.  But aren't at that level yet.   Only my opinion.  Everyones intitled to one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
Kevin Ryan new Antrim manager, official.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 17, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
you know think the result yesterday has breathed a little life into the championship.  If Dunloy improve again from this game like they did after Ballycastle, couple with the derby factor we could be in for a helll of a game.  However casement, big pitch some of the loughgiel forwards can take the hits and great stick men as well.

still think one on one if its allowed to happen Richmond will skin mcgarry in at full back.  the davy fitz factor will do dunloy no harm either.

yes certainly something to look forward to.  Only wish it was during the day, even 3pm on the saturday

going to make the oisins   v rossa game at weekend, better than football final

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2012, 10:54:02 PM
Saturday 29th 7pm start confirmed for Dunloy v Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 11:00:28 PM
7:30 I heard minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 11:00:28 PM
7:30 I heard minder

Official Antrim twitter feed has it for 7pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2012, 11:36:52 PM
My bad then.  See Na Piarsaigh and Ballygunner knocked out at weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
7pm. How sensible of them to move it forward by 30mins! Bloody hell why it's not played at say 4pm if beyond me. I get why it's at night with that big parade in the city an all but we should be having game in the day. Would bring a better crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2012, 09:01:21 PM
Just can't for the life of me see dunloy beating the shamrocks but I respect them massively - written off every year but remain a force.

Hardstation you missing both Glenarrife games? Some clubman I jest!
From what I hear u will need a big improvement to best a full strength Glenarrife team but home advantage will hopefully do that. The oisins will be ready after last weeks events no doubt about that.

btdtgtt

No harm but you were one of the people writing them off and bigging up Cushendall when there was never going to be anything in the game. League and championship hurling two different animals lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 18, 2012, 09:34:11 AM
Knew we were gonna get questioned about not posting but as Milltown says sometimes you just want the dust to settle

No excuses, played completely dire. Dunloy on top on all sections of the pitch and had more hunger for the game. Don't really no what more to say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2012, 09:01:21 PM
Just can't for the life of me see dunloy beating the shamrocks but I respect them massively - written off every year but remain a force.

Hardstation you missing both Glenarrife games? Some clubman I jest!
From what I hear u will need a big improvement to best a full strength Glenarrife team but home advantage will hopefully do that. The oisins will be ready after last weeks events no doubt about that.

btdtgtt

No harm but you were one of the people writing them off and bigging up Cushendall when there was never going to be anything in the game. League and championship hurling two different animals lads.

Absolutely! I fancied Cushendall to win the game and I was wrong! Make no bones about it!
Thats why I make the comment about repsecting Dunloy all the more for it.
I am sure there's plenty of people in the Bridge hoping I am wrong again on the final. No point sitting on fences so I'm going for the Shamrocks but like evceryone else I've ne wrong before!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on September 18, 2012, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2012, 09:01:21 PM
Just can't for the life of me see dunloy beating the shamrocks but I respect them massively - written off every year but remain a force.

Hardstation you missing both Glenarrife games? Some clubman I jest!
From what I hear u will need a big improvement to best a full strength Glenarrife team but home advantage will hopefully do that. The oisins will be ready after last weeks events no doubt about that.

btdtgtt

No harm but you were one of the people writing them off and bigging up Cushendall when there was never going to be anything in the game. League and championship hurling two different animals lads.

Absolutely! I fancied Cushendall to win the game and I was wrong! Make no bones about it!
Thats why I make the comment about repsecting Dunloy all the more for it.
I am sure there's plenty of people in the Bridge hoping I am wrong again on the final. No point sitting on fences so I'm going for the Shamrocks but like evceryone else I've ne wrong before!

Maybe you will get to this game for a change, you always seem to have some excuse ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
Good god man Gimmie a break!
Both games I wanted to see this weekend clashed with an underage football tournament!
Someone has to drive!

Anyway I am putting the big ball duties away for Rossa park this Sunday that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 18, 2012, 05:36:59 PM
Just like to congratulate Garrett Duffy on his appointment again to the AI Minor Final, maybe 3rd time lucky? Id say there would be few on this site to wish him the same, unless he makes a mistake of course :'( Good luck and well done, some reward for the effort our National Lads put in all year round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
Well done to him. Met him a few times this season. Good ref and good man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 18, 2012, 07:33:50 PM
Find it quite amazing the county has games down for Sunday afternoon during the AI final. Would like to take a run up to watch Rossa v Glenariff but won't be anywhere near it if it remains a 3pm throw-in. If the county was a business whoever fixed games for then would be sacked for incompetence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 18, 2012, 05:36:59 PM
Just like to congratulate Garrett Duffy on his appointment again to the AI Minor Final, maybe 3rd time lucky? Id say there would be few on this site to wish him the same, unless he makes a mistake of course :'( Good luck and well done, some reward for the effort our National Lads put in all year round.

Well done Garret, Good Ref
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 18, 2012, 08:24:39 PM
I'd heard he was also to get the Co Final and deservedly so IMO. Does his AI appointment change this?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 18, 2012, 08:24:39 PM
I'd heard he was also to get the Co Final and deservedly so IMO. Does his AI appointment change this?  :-\

Surley not, considering minor final is on the Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
Fixing games for the same time as an all Ireland final the showpiece of our association is like a bad joke. I dare say no other county makes such a laughing stock of itself. Altho no doubt the county moderator will have his own pathetic embarrassing diatribe in response. Yest again Antrim stand out for all the wrong reasons - will it ever end with the idiots in their casement armchairs of pseudo-authority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 18, 2012, 09:21:22 PM
is duffy the man in the middle in the minor final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 18, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 18, 2012, 05:36:59 PM
Just like to congratulate Garrett Duffy on his appointment again to the AI Minor Final, maybe 3rd time lucky? Id say there would be few on this site to wish him the same, unless he makes a mistake of course :'( Good luck and well done, some reward for the effort our National Lads put in all year round.

Yet the Irish news say there are no good refs this side of the border!

Barry Cassidy from Bellaghy doing minor football final too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 10:00:04 PM
Alan Kelly of Galway will referee the minor hurling replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 10:49:45 PM
Anyone know who this scoundrel 'Assistant Treasurer, Antrim' is who is selling these tickets for £460 plus £6 postage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/x2-All-Ireland-Football-Final-Tickets-Donegal-v-Mayo-/170911639741?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item27cb20a8bd#ht_500wt_1203

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever exposing wnakers who do this.

Look closely at picture 2 and you will see who the tickets are allocated to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2012, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 18, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 18, 2012, 05:36:59 PM
Just like to congratulate Garrett Duffy on his appointment again to the AI Minor Final, maybe 3rd time lucky? Id say there would be few on this site to wish him the same, unless he makes a mistake of course :'( Good luck and well done, some reward for the effort our National Lads put in all year round.

Yet the Irish news say there are no good refs this side of the border!

Barry Cassidy from Bellaghy doing minor football final too!
Barry's a quality ref. has done well for himself this past number of years. Done a few football qualifiers this year. Good ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2012, 10:55:23 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 10:49:45 PM
Anyone know who this scoundrel 'Assistant Treasurer, Antrim' is who is selling these tickets for £460 plus £6 postage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/x2-All-Ireland-Football-Final-Tickets-Donegal-v-Mayo-/170911639741?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item27cb20a8bd#ht_500wt_1203

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever exposing wnakers who do this.

Look closely at picture 2 and you will see who the tickets are allocated to.
What a comple tit. This person should be pull for this. Get a free ticket and then fleece people desperate to get to a game. Disgusting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
According to the county website, our Asst Treasurer is Billy McLarnon.

I don't know the fella but I hope for his sake, it isn't him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:06:29 PM
Bit silly of whoever it is selling it.

Of course, the Assistant treasurer could have genuinely and innocently got tickets for friends, club men, family etc who have then went on to do this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:06:29 PM
Bit silly of whoever it is selling it.

Of course, the Assistant treasurer could have genuinely and innocently got tickets for friends, club men, family etc who have then went on to do this.

Exactly so don't be carrying this post any further, could be selling it for club, fundraiser
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:13:21 PM
http://www.antrimgaa.net/committees/

http://www.antrimgaa.net/committee/

One of these is wrong.  One of them say that the Assistant Treasurer is Brendan Wilson and the other says its Billy McLarnon.


MR2, and if that turns out to be the case then, I will say so. GAA tickets should not be sold for a profit at the expense of a desperate fan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:17:22 PM
D'oh. I don't think i'll be applying for the vacancy at Scotland Yard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
I think someone should make enquiries about this on the county guestbook!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:36:31 PM
Who is the ultra defensive, horrible, belittling and embarrassing fcukwit that replies to people on the county guestbook.  Surely it must be Frankie Quinn. The Doc has come and gone and the replies are much the same.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:36:31 PM
Who is the ultra defensive, horrible, belittling and embarrassing fcukwit that replies to people on the county guestbook.  Surely it must be Frankie Quinn. The Doc has come and gone and the replies are much the same.
Don't think anyone is 100% sure. Would be nice to find out though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2012, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 18, 2012, 11:43:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
Quote from: chocoholic on September 18, 2012, 11:36:31 PM
Who is the ultra defensive, horrible, belittling and embarrassing fcukwit that replies to people on the county guestbook.  Surely it must be Frankie Quinn. The Doc has come and gone and the replies are much the same.
Don't think anyone is 100% sure. Would be nice to find out though.
In his own words:
contributors are unknown and unidentifiable are of no relevance or importance

says he.

Some day it will come out and I will laugh my ballix off.
He has been asked repeatedly to cast off his cloak of anonymity. Not interested. Will be a fun day.

I know a man who will know so will ask tamara.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 11:53:14 PM
I have been told its frankie Quinn by both Belfast & cdall people.
Haven't heard anyone else mentioned.

Mind u in the twisted logic of our county powers that be they probably enjoy us commenting on them in this board - regardless of taking account of what is actually said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2012, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 18, 2012, 11:53:14 PM
I have been told its frankie Quinn by both Belfast & cdall people.
Haven't heard anyone else mentioned.

Mind u in the twisted logic of our county powers that be they probably enjoy us commenting on them in this board - regardless of taking account of what is actually said.
Frankie has been the name bandied about for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 19, 2012, 01:32:20 AM
I had asked recently and was told the dun doc was still in the guest book admin position. Don't really believe that but no one giving anything away. On the ticket front, as a gaa man, u never ask for more than the price. How could u ask a fellow geal to pay more than the normal high price, I have been at croker many a time with a ticket and would never ask for a penny more, those values are instilled in u from ur family before and people that do shit like this obviously don't have the game at heart. Just money men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 06:34:35 AM
I've asked a couple of people and got two different answers. Sure, does it matter? There all the same up there anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
Maybe its the same in every county or maybe its me, but there's a layer of folk operating at county level where's its difficult to see whether they've any actual interest in the games themselves?

Hard to believe that the powers that be have not demanded that the guestbook admin wind his neck in. How can they be happy with that eejit treating folk with absolute contempt. What way is that to have a public discourse with supporters?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 19, 2012, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
Maybe its the same in every county or maybe its me, but there's a layer of folk operating at county level where's its difficult to see whether they've any actual interest in the games themselves?

Hard to believe that the powers that be have not demanded that the guestbook admin wind his neck in. How can they be happy with that eejit treating folk with absolute contempt. What way is that to have a public discourse with supporters?

Agreed.  There is no way that those in charge at Casement aren't aware of this numpties replies, so either it is Frankie himself or they choose to turn a blind eye.  Either scenario is disgraceful.

Is it any wonder the County suffers from poor support when they are so out of touch with the average supporter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 19, 2012, 08:35:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.

Fair enough.....witch hunt called of!

You good for a ticket then?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 19, 2012, 08:42:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2012, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
Maybe its the same in every county or maybe its me, but there's a layer of folk operating at co board level where's its difficult to see whether they've any actual interest in the games themselves?

Hard to believe that the powers that be have not demanded that the guestbook admin wind his neck in. How can they be happy with that eejit treating folk with absolute contempt. What way is that to have a public discourse with supporters?
The other thing is that we have one of the best county websites and it is well updated. Thon eejit's comments only take away from it.

It is a good website indeed.
Why have a guest book if you're going to make a mess of it, better off without it then IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2012, 08:54:12 AM
I would fully agree. It's an embarassment after putting so much effort into a good web-site that fella is on there "representing" the county.

He obviously enjoys the belittling too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 09:23:49 AM
Couldnt agree more with all posters regarding the guestbook.

Most people say Frankie Quinn but the tone and languages does sound like the Dun Doctor with illusions of granduer.

Either way it doesnt matter - they are all complicit.
And lets us not forget this is their favourite time of year - playing God with all-ireland tickets!
I genuinely believe they prefer this than running our games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2012, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.
Torch extinguished and pitchfork back in the shed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 19, 2012, 08:35:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.

Fair enough.....witch hunt called of!

You good for a ticket then?!
Lol sadly all allocated to members
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2012, 09:42:17 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2012, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.
Torch extinguished and pitchfork back in the shed.
Very disappointed as well. Haven't had a good burning in a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 19, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2012, 12:00:18 AM
Who will do it in the future then as his days are numbered?

Must go on and ask about the keys of Casement being handed over for a Sainsburys fun day when half of Andytown were woken up by "Chelsea Chelsea" being shouted over the PA system at an ungodly hour of the morning. Illegal, too, I believe.

Aye that's right, I forgot about that. That freaked the fook out of me that morning, had no idea what was going on and thought I had lost my mind, about 7.30am
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 19, 2012, 02:25:52 PM
21 September 2012
A Chairde,
It has come to our attention that 2 Football tickets, which were allocated to a club in Antrim, are currently on sale via a social networking site.
Theses tickets have now been cancelled and are totally worthless both to the seller and any potential buyer.
Should any other tickets be offered the same action will be taken.

This was posted on county website. no full house on Sunday then? Shame. They should reprint tickets and raffle them off for charity at Saturday Nights double header. Just an idea as im sure some good cause could be doing with a few hundred quid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 02:35:17 PM
Anybody going down to the game this Sunday who's in the vicinity of Section 302 row B seats 11 & 12 to see if they stay empty? Someone with a bad davin seat will no doubt fill the void if there is one

Can croke park deny entry (I presume by blocking against the bar code) under these circumstances.? Is it on the terms and conditions of the ticket?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
They would be able, I'm sure, to re issue these tickets again (print them off) and give them to someone who would not do that again. Some arseholes out there have been caught red handed and will be red faced soon enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 19, 2012, 02:50:51 PM
Should be easily enough traced back to the club they were issued too and therefore shouldn't be massively difficult to figure out who was given them from the club. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 19, 2012, 03:09:12 PM
Would it not be the case that most clubs would raffle their allocation, outside of maybe some for club officers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 19, 2012, 03:33:20 PM
Delighted to hear that parasite got scooped touting tickets on ebay. Anyone who sells over the odds is the lowest of the low. Hopefully they are named and shamed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 19, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
Even naming the club would kind of force them to take action as I dont think other members would be overly happy with someone doing that with what are essentially club tickets.

However, there is also the possibility that this is a county panel member as if I remember correctly they still have the option to buy two tickets. Not saying for a second that it is, but it is a possibility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 19, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
Found out recently that tickets are distributed to clubs based on Membership numbers so clubs with the biggest allocations would be the likes of St. Brigid's / Loughgiel / St. Johns etc.

Very much doubt that FQ has the vocabulary / wit to come up with replies like that on the guestbook - certainly have an air of a well-educated candidate behind them!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 09:42:17 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2012, 09:24:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
Ok all sorted with the tickets. All clubs tickets that are printed in Antrim and gave out have that on it. Our clubs football final tickets have that all on them. And none of them have been gave out as they are still sitting in our house to give out.
Torch extinguished and pitchfork back in the shed.
Very disappointed as well. Haven't had a good burning in a while.

to hell with it lets do him anyway just incase he has done something of this nature
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Lads, I was just looking at that eBay page again, it appears somebody bought the tickets. Some poor sod is going to turn up to Crocker and be told he forked out £460 for nothing. Serves him right if you ask me.   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 19, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
Found out recently that tickets are distributed to clubs based on Membership numbers so clubs with the biggest allocations would be the likes of St. Brigid's / Loughgiel / St. Johns etc.

Very much doubt that FQ has the vocabulary / wit to come up with replies like that on the guestbook - certainly have an air of a well-educated candidate behind them!  ;)
Surely St. galls would have the biggest allocation? Loughgiel wouldn't have as big a membership as you'd think, more's the pity. I think I heard somewhere there's around 200 members. Not much considering the support we bring to matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Lads, I was just looking at that eBay page again, it appears somebody bought the tickets. Some poor sod is going to turn up to Crocker and be told he forked out £460 for nothing. Serves him right if you ask me.   :)

Could have been someone masquerading as buying them and not actually paying, which would be a good way of f**king the seller over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Lads, I was just looking at that eBay page again, it appears somebody bought the tickets. Some poor sod is going to turn up to Crocker and be told he forked out £460 for nothing. Serves him right if you ask me.   :)

Could have been someone masquerading as buying them and not actually paying, which would be a good way of f**king the seller over.
Hopefully that's the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Lads, I was just looking at that eBay page again, it appears somebody bought the tickets. Some poor sod is going to turn up to Crocker and be told he forked out £460 for nothing. Serves him right if you ask me.   :)

Could have been someone masquerading as buying them and not actually paying, which would be a good way of f**king the seller over.

Is that not the way ebay normally works anyway :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 08:24:41 PM
Talking to a local friendly hurl maker there - Sunday's div2 game bubbling up!

Rossa asked for an earlier throw in for the all Ireland but Glenarrife refused! Understand both teams position.

Both teams probably different from last week - obviously for the oisins anyway! Gettons McKillop McDonnell will ask different questions if Rossa as slack as they can be.

Kettle definitely out and Hamill receiving injections to play? Did they line out last week?

HS can the football final be watched at Rossa or will we rely on nipping into st Paul's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2012, 08:27:14 PM
Hamill played last week and Kettle didn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Thanks HS.
Kettle is a major loss was outstanding player v loughiel. Hamill didn't play that day - clearly playing thru injury.
What's your thinking on this game minder? I would expect the oisins pumped up like its championship. Probably deserve promotion over course of the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2012, 09:04:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2012, 08:15:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 19, 2012, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Lads, I was just looking at that eBay page again, it appears somebody bought the tickets. Some poor sod is going to turn up to Crocker and be told he forked out £460 for nothing. Serves him right if you ask me.   :)

Could have been someone masquerading as buying them and not actually paying, which would be a good way of f**king the seller over.

Is that not the way ebay normally works anyway :o
I've had a Nigerian chap offer me 700 quid for a phone worth about 150. Unfortunately he was having issues with Paypal but wanted me to send it on ahead anyway  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2012, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Thanks HS.
Kettle is a major loss was outstanding player v loughiel. Hamill didn't play that day - clearly playing thru injury.
What's your thinking on this game minder? I would expect the oisins pumped up like its championship. Probably deserve promotion over course of the year?

I think home advantage is an obvious advantage for Rossa, would love to have seen us play each other earlier in the season when both teams were training hard and going full pelt. It's hard to know what kind of game you will get at this stage of the year with teams not training as hard. If we don't go up it isn't the end of the world, as I said earlier this season Div2 isn't the worst place for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 19, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
Btw, btdtgtt........

Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
If Rossa players are at a music concert instead of a promotion bid then Glenarrufe deserve to go up. Sickens me as a city man.

With a number of Glenariffe men heading on a stag do instead of playing against Rossa, who deserves to go up?

;)

again the team with the most points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 19, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
still think the gaa has to improve the allocation of tickets.

they have painstakingly moved a little closer in the past years with the introduction of league tickets for the campaign and more recently the packages for the quaterfinals and semi finals, which at 25% offf were excellent value.

now they need to take the next step of apporition tickets to those fans that attent throughout the year, ie those who have bought for other fixtures and venues for the less glamourous tie should get a better shot at tickets for the final.

they are expensive tickets for average enough seats.

will head the morning of the game and no doubt pick up something from genuine supporters.  as long as u aren't worried about the minor game the prices from the touts will also start falling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 08:47:07 PM
Thanks HS.
Kettle is a major loss was outstanding player v loughiel. Hamill didn't play that day - clearly playing thru injury.
What's your thinking on this game minder? I would expect the oisins pumped up like its championship. Probably deserve promotion over course of the year?
Whoever finishes with the most points at the end of the season deserves promotion.

True - fair point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: chocoholic on September 19, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
The seller of the said tickets has obviously shat himself. He has now changed his username to something different to what it was.  You can tell by the new icon beside his name. A new ebay logo appears for a new username so clearly not innocent or for a club fundraiser as may have been an option.

Fair play to the county board for cancelling but I suppose, they will always be at it. The smart ones will now just not put their tickets on for view (or the important parts more likely).

Have to laugh at this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-All-Ireland-Football-Final-2012-Tickets-Donegal-v-Mayo-/120986823129?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item1c2b6069d9#ht_500wt_1156

It seems all the bidders have zero feedback so here's hoping they are phantom bidders!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 19, 2012, 09:26:56 PM
btgdtt i will see u there on Sunday should be a hum dinger.

Referee will have his hands full.  though if all is to be believed the oisins will welcome back about 8 first team regulars.  they have to be slight favourites.

rumours abound that Joe Edwards doing his best to change the leagues a little, especially if the rossa lose on Sunday.  i am sure there are some oisins wanting to watch the football, just unsure if its liverpool v man u or the mayo game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 19, 2012, 09:33:53 PM
Is there not a season ticket available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
Btw, btdtgtt........

Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
If Rossa players are at a music concert instead of a promotion bid then Glenarrufe deserve to go up. Sickens me as a city man.

With a number of Glenariffe men heading on a stag do instead of playing against Rossa, who deserves to go up?

;)
Obviously confident of tanking them in the city ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
I can tell you joe Edwards would not be in a hurry to do anything for the benefit of another club and certainly not Rossa!

I take the point about the league table not lying - whoever it is to be can rightly claim and point to the reason they deserve it. Works both ways.

That's said MR2 did hint at league changes last week?

No doubt a few of our posters will claim it's all decided by loughiel anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 19, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 19, 2012, 09:26:56 PM
btgdtt i will see u there on Sunday should be a hum dinger.

Referee will have his hands full.  though if all is to be believed the oisins will welcome back about 8 first team regulars.  they have to be slight favourites.

rumours abound that Joe Edwards doing his best to change the leagues a little, especially if the rossa lose on Sunday.  i am sure there are some oisins wanting to watch the football, just unsure if its liverpool v man u or the mayo game

Wee Joe is the last man who would propose changing the league structure, and has been the loudest supporter / proponent of 8 team leagues at county meetings.  The drive for any change will be coming from the usual places in Belfast and parts of North Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 19, 2012, 11:27:45 PM
They arnt budging from the 8 team league for the simple reason that it makes it easier for them to organise. Less work with only 14 weeks of fixtures to fit into the year. Fecking joke as when you take mid week games into consideration all hurling league fixtures are played off in 8 - 10 weeks. yet they still complain about the number of free weeks and actually have fixtures on All Ireland final day. its not really about improving the standard of hurling to them, its more about making it easier for CCC (Joe) to compile his fixtures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
Interesting points gizzy. 

Yes it is incredible when u think the season can run from march/April to October and yet they can't fit in 14 matches without playing on all Ireland day. The breaks for county action are far too long.
Time for the clubs to show wee joe etc who should be calling the shots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2012, 12:10:01 AM
Come on lads... use your heads.

So lets say 28-30 weekends til the end of Sept.

14 Matches to play in the all county hurling league
Then there's an equivalent amount for dual clubs
The Ulster Hurling League still needs to be finished
Don't forget U21
Oh then there's the Feis cup
And what about all the inter county preparations at senior and U21
Then there's this thing called championship which clubs like to prepare for before playing (sometimes that might involve a weekend away)
Does your club train? We do a fair bit to try and get fit and be able to hit the ball...I think it works ..others might disagree

Very short sighted to make out that playing 14 games in one league format is a joke. It's a busy schedule for dual clubs.

I personally agree with the 8 team format and have outlined my reasons for it many times. Clubs who respect the game will make their way out of Division 2 and be at the very least compeditive in Div 1. Does anybody remember the last time Sarfields won division 2 when the Div 1 league was made up of 12 or 14 teams. Absolutely no use for them or anybody playing them. Personally believe the status quo is much more healthy for the game in the long run. Clubs playing for top spot in Div2 should stop whinging and just work at upping the standards of their game. They'll be all the better for it if they do get promoted



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 20, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2012, 12:10:01 AM
Come on lads... use your heads.

So lets say 28-30 weekends til the end of Sept.

14 Matches to play in the all county hurling league
Then there's an equivalent amount for dual clubs
The Ulster Hurling League still needs to be finished
Don't forget U21
Oh then there's the Feis cup
And what about all the inter county preparations at senior and U21
Then there's this thing called championship which clubs like to prepare for before playing (sometimes that might involve a weekend away)
Does your club train? We do a fair bit to try and get fit and be able to hit the ball...I think it works ..others might disagree

Very short sighted to make out that playing 14 games in one league format is a joke. It's a busy schedule for dual clubs.

I personally agree with the 8 team format and have outlined my reasons for it many times. Clubs who respect the game will make their way out of Division 2 and be at the very least compeditive in Div 1. Does anybody remember the last time Sarfields won division 2 when the Div 1 league was made up of 12 or 14 teams. Absolutely no use for them or anybody playing them. Personally believe the status quo is much more healthy for the game in the long run. Clubs playing for top spot in Div2 should stop whinging and just work at upping the standards of their game. They'll be all the better for it if they do get promoted
Why is it that the perceived implications for what happens in Div 1 are the only thing that matters. Here we go again....Status quo!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
What do you mean LM?

It's logical to me that the leagues (div1 in particular) need to be competitive to keep the standard of the game high. Create a larger gulf between the top and bottom clubs by enlarging leagues I don't think will help anybody (apart from a few clubs egos).

Perhaps you could explain the plight of being a lower div hurler. I was led to believe div2 is a good league but confess I know little or nothing about 3 & 4. Do you believe rearranging the deck chairs would be good for the game. If so explain

Just thinking......If a div5 was created just for McDs would that maybe satisfy your need? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 20, 2012, 08:02:56 AM
Div 2 and 3 are very competitive. The only problem I see is with Div 4 where Cushendun, Glenravel, St Teresa's and St Enda's are far above the standard of the rest. All 4 of them could hold their own in Div 3 but there's only one promotion slot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Div 2 and 3 are competitive though are still open to change. Intermedaite C'ship final between 2 Div 3 teams who could hold their own in Div 2. also Clooney Gaels and Armoy. Would it not be possible to Have top 2from Div 2 promoted to Div 1 no relegation(10 team div 1) top 4 in Div 3 all of whome are capable up to div 2 (10 team div 2). and top 4 fom Div 4 up to Div 3 (8 team Div 3).

If you Look at the teams this would involve all the Leagues would be very competitive. Div 1 teams may not want two up but would this really detract from standard as one of the two div 2 teams will be going up anyway and they are of a similar standard.

Just an opnion and not wanting to ruffle any feathers just to see what other people think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 09:27:39 AM
Again lads some great points. I see what you mean Skull about fixtures and especially dual clubs but as the other lads say just because the top divisions are competitive doesnt mean that rings true the whole way down - indeed it doesnt.

There are mismatches for many clubs outside of the top divisions.
I also think that between March-Oct we have too many potential fixture dates lying idle. For example a club playing Friday evening then Sunday is the same as being asked to play Sunday then Wednesday - so why not introduce some Friday night fixtures.

But like I said before I think the main way of getting more fixtures played is by cuuting out the ridiculous situation where everything stops until our county teams are beaten! I understand maybe a week before a county game but having hundreds of players lying idle for the sake if 24 on the county panel is absurd. And lets face it - its not like this has been working to date!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 20, 2012, 10:20:04 AM
I don't agree that extending the leagues will help! However I would support 2 up 2 down in terms of relegation! Glenarrife yo-yoing back and forward does little for the other div 2 teams but St Galls and Rossa could very much compete and if Randalstown and the likes put a big push then maybe!

The problem I have is the season ends to early for alOt of players, normally championship is played early august, therefore half our adult players will stop training then! That in itself will lower the standard for county selection! 2 up 2 down with play offs for the winners would keep most clubs interested and training into October when the leagues should finish and break until May!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
I'd like to see 2 up and 2 down but with a playoff. That would give a bigger push for a few teams to be involved in the playoff // not be involved in the playoff.

I don't think there's anything wrong with 1, 2 and 3 but the standard is extremely hit and miss in 4. Each year the good teams in it have tight games against about 2 other good teams and some other matches are mismatches.

How they rectify this I'm not sure. I guess the only way would be to make 3 bigger or to go with a 4a and 4b which they previously did but that wouldn't allow 8 teams per league I suspect(not sure of numbers).

Teams will always yo-yo the way Glenariff are doing. I think only themselves and Rossa could hold their own in division 1 from division 2 at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
I'd like to see 2 up and 2 down but with a playoff. That would give a bigger push for a few teams to be involved in the playoff // not be involved in the playoff.

I don't think there's anything wrong with 1, 2 and 3 but the standard is extremely hit and miss in 4. Each year the good teams in it have tight games against about 2 other good teams and some other matches are mismatches.

How they rectify this I'm not sure. I guess the only way would be to make 3 bigger or to go with a 4a and 4b which they previously did but that wouldn't allow 8 teams per league I suspect(not sure of numbers).

Teams will always yo-yo the way Glenariff are doing. I think only themselves and Rossa could hold their own in division 1 from division 2 at present.

::)

If there was two up two down I'd be very happy, been asking it for years FFS no one wants it in hurling, they are fine with it in football and it really works.

Glenariff won't be able to maintain this yo-yo thing much longer, due to numbers and kids coming through I don't they would get much success in a few years time. Rossa will always have a steady amount of very good hurlers coming through, it's about applying and dedicating themselves to achieving something that only they (as a Belfast club) can realistically do, winning senior championships.

Oh that last bit hurt  :'( :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 11:00:08 AM
I watch alot of Division2 ans as much Div1 as possible.

I have no doubt and I would say most people would agree that Glenarrife Rossa and StGalls are as good as any team outside the big3 (?!). Their issue is maintaining it for the full season due to either players away from home or being dual clubs. Either way division 1 hurling would be better off for these teams given that a rising tide would lift all boats and this would have a positive effect on these clubs and the league as a whole.

Division2 would remain very competitive without them with plenty of teams at a similar standard. That said, I do not dispute that to be prove you are good enough for division1 a team should win promotion, but lets face it sometimes a re-structure is required (dont forget Galls and Rossa were only relegated by re-structuring)

One more point - I think we can exempt randalstown - they will be lucky to stay in Div2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
I'd like to see 2 up and 2 down but with a playoff. That would give a bigger push for a few teams to be involved in the playoff // not be involved in the playoff.

I don't think there's anything wrong with 1, 2 and 3 but the standard is extremely hit and miss in 4. Each year the good teams in it have tight games against about 2 other good teams and some other matches are mismatches.

How they rectify this I'm not sure. I guess the only way would be to make 3 bigger or to go with a 4a and 4b which they previously did but that wouldn't allow 8 teams per league I suspect(not sure of numbers).

Teams will always yo-yo the way Glenariff are doing. I think only themselves and Rossa could hold their own in division 1 from division 2 at present.

2 up, 2 down would if anything increase the yo-yo effect for the clubs talked about and ourselves. It'd be harder to stay in Div1 and easier to get out of Div2.

My plan would be to increase Div1 to 10 teams, that'd give everyone initially 9 games, then after those games split the league into the top 5 and bottom 5 who'd play out against each other giving each team another 4 games, one less than what a Div1 team gets currently.

Yes there'll be some mismatches in the first round games, that'll give the bigger teams a chance to give youngster and panelists a run out and a chance for lesser clubs to experience hurling at a higher level, plus they'll get competitive fixtures against teams of a similar stature.

The mid table teams will be pushing hard to get into the top five, making them compete in each and every game and the big three will still get their competitive games against each other, home and away.

just my thoughts.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
I'm sure someone will point to problems Johnny Cool but its a better idea than what we have got.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Lads you getting away from the central point that no one really cares about the league, it is seen merely as preparation for the championship, if you win it fair enough, if you win it but not the championship then what's the point.

Until there is something realistic and enticing about competing in the league then there will always be this prevailing attitude toward it. Fair enough everyone wants to be in Div1 and Div2 is competitive at the top because they want to go up a level but once they are there, this attitude exists.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 20, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
For a team to win a senior championship they need to be playing hurling in Div 1, and for a number of years. I believe that if Rossa could get up this year or next and stay there that they would begin to push the big 3, along with Ballycastle. I agree with MR2 that Glenariffe may begin to fall away, but they will still manage to produce good enough hurlers for the next few years to be too god for Div 2.

To be honest these changes should have been made a few years ago, and has been pointed out, if some clubs were put down by league re structuring then clubs can hardly be annoyed if they are moved back up a level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
If you increase to 10 though that's all well and good in your first year - Glenariff and Rossa get up and you have the best teams. The following year one of those gets relegated and the promoted club becomes whipping boys. The team that gets relegated is far too good for division 2 also.

If Rossa are to have aspirations of competing with the "big 3" (although I don't think it's 3 any more) then surely they have to be good enough to get out of the current division 2 otherwise I'd have thought that they're not good enough to be competitive?

The reason I suggest 2 is so as bottom of 1 and top of 2 have mroe to play for.

I think you increase to 10 and it's an easy way for the likes of Rossa to get into division 1 and there's no reason why that should be the case. The only issue in my view is 3 and 4...

I think the likes of Tosh and a few other boys will start to fall off for Glenariff over the next few years and they may not have as much coming through so they may drop off a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
NAG - the point is that teams SHOULD care about the league, and if they dont then are we seriosuly thinking about moving hurling on when 99% of games have no relevance. The importance of the league must be promoted - whenter by making it competitive or linking it to championship. We cannot simply have a situation where chanpionship is all that matter - always the priority yes, but we must have proper hurling all season if we are to develop.

CITYSLICKER - Rossa did win their championship from Div1B but I agree the current set-up is simply not developing us in terms of county hurling or club hurling.

TOMMYGUN - I think Hardsation might be quoting you on Monday morning if Rossa win on Sunday - they are still looking to go up on merit! Although as CitySlicker says - Rossa and the Galls were not relegated on the field in the first place!
Also you have me intrigued when you say there's no top3 anymore! Are you dropping the Dall out of the equation?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 20, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
If you increase to 10 though that's all well and good in your first year - Glenariff and Rossa get up and you have the best teams. The following year one of those gets relegated and the promoted club becomes whipping boys. The team that gets relegated is far too good for division 2 also.

If Rossa are to have aspirations of competing with the "big 3" (although I don't think it's 3 any more) then surely they have to be good enough to get out of the current division 2 otherwise I'd have thought that they're not good enough to be competitive?

The reason I suggest 2 is so as bottom of 1 and top of 2 have mroe to play for.

I think you increase to 10 and it's an easy way for the likes of Rossa to get into division 1 and there's no reason why that should be the case. The only issue in my view is 3 and 4...

I think the likes of Tosh and a few other boys will start to fall off for Glenariff over the next few years and they may not have as much coming through so they may drop off a bit.

Surely some Cushendall posters will be annoyed that you are now leaving them out of the Big Three.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
I'm not sure anyone is currently at Loughgiel's level never mind Cushendall so that wasn't really a dig at them. Unless the county final shows something different but I'm not sure it wil.. Cushendall have definitely dropped off a good bit though.

btdgtt- if rossa go up on merit then fair play to them but if they're to compete with the big boys they really should be in division 1 on merit... I think there's currently enough underage coming through that this will eventually happen mind you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2012, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
I'm not sure anyone is currently at Loughgiel's level never mind Cushendall so that wasn't really a dig at them. Unless the county final shows something different but I'm not sure it wil.. Cushendall have definitely dropped off a good bit though.

btdgtt- if rossa go up on merit then fair play to them but if they're to compete with the big boys they really should be in division 1 on merit... I think there's currently enough underage coming through that this will eventually happen mind you.

This was a fancied Cushendall team to beat Dunloy easy last week last, retrospective thinking and all that.

Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
NAG - the point is that teams SHOULD care about the league, and if they dont then are we seriosuly thinking about moving hurling on when 99% of games have no relevance. The importance of the league must be promoted - whenter by making it competitive or linking it to championship. We cannot simply have a situation where chanpionship is all that matter - always the priority yes, but we must have proper hurling all season if we are to develop.

CITYSLICKER - Rossa did win their championship from Div1B but I agree the current set-up is simply not developing us in terms of county hurling or club hurling.

TOMMYGUN - I think Hardsation might be quoting you on Monday morning if Rossa win on Sunday - they are still looking to go up on merit! Although as CitySlicker says - Rossa and the Galls were not relegated on the field in the first place!
Also you have me intrigued when you say there's no top3 anymore! Are you dropping the Dall out of the equation?




Just saying that they should care isnt going to get it done am afraid. The fact is there that the championship is the be all and end all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
Nag I'm not sure Loughiel would be in a hurry to give away their league titles "cos they dont" care!

But obviously their Volunteer Cups will always be of overwhelming importance and thats the way it should be. But this doesnt translate into saying the league will be meaningless! A meaningful league is possible in other counties so again why are we different!

I know some counties link league standing to championship - notionally say that once one round of league games are complete (half-way stage) the championship draw is dictated by seedings at this point. I am not suggesting this should necessarily happen but just showing how we can make the leagues into a real competiton.

TommyGunn I would agree that nobody is at Loughiels level but I put my foot in it on the pecking order before! Maybe Dunloy could make us both do it! But i doubt it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
Nag I'm not sure Loughiel would be in a hurry to give away their league titles "cos they dont" care!

But obviously their Volunteer Cups will always be of overwhelming importance and thats the way it should be. But this doesnt translate into saying the league will be meaningless! A meaningful league is possible in other counties so again why are we different!

I know some counties link league standing to championship - notionally say that once one round of league games are complete (half-way stage) the championship draw is dictated by seedings at this point. I am not suggesting this should necessarily happen but just showing how we can make the leagues into a real competiton.

TommyGunn I would agree that nobody is at Loughiels level but I put my foot in it on the pecking order before! Maybe Dunloy could make us both do it! But i doubt it.

There was a day not so long ago that they would have given 20 of them away to get a championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
I am not suggesting the league is currently anywhere approaching the status of championship!
Merely saying that it needs to be more competitive! Dont see your point!
If the staus of the elague is increase then we have more meaningful games and we all develop as a result - simple.
Maybe linking it to championship will do that.
The extension of you argument is basically let just play off a championship and to hell with the rest of the year. League doesnt matter so why bother - its non-sensical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
I am not suggesting the league is currently anywhere approaching the status of championship!
Merely saying that it needs to be more competitive! Dont see your point!
If the staus of the elague is increase then we have more meaningful games and we all develop as a result - simple.
Maybe linking it to championship will do that.
The extension of you argument is basically let just play off a championship and to hell with the rest of the year. League doesnt matter so why bother - its non-sensical.

My point is until we get to a place where each league game counts then there will be no incentive to be competitive in it apart from the obvious preparation for championship. So there has to be a scheme put in place to make it worthwhile winning the Division. Suggestions on a postcard!

We have tried a champions league type championship format and that wasnt a great success. League standings determine the seedings for the Championship, tell me the last time that the big three didnt finish 1-2-3?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Fair bit of pressure being put Loughgiel now, (well on here anyways) and they should be good for it seeing they are going for 3 in a row and on the back of being All Ireland champions.

They play the Dall on Sunday, skeleton team out no doubt and chance for squad players to prepare (should they be required) for a run out against Dunloy.

As for Dunloy, by all accounts they had a bit of zip about them last week and have managed to find that hand passing game they perfected back in the day, finding space and creating scores from it. Was brilliant to watch but was shite to play against, was like chasing shadows ffs.

Final should be a lot closer and I might take Dunloy at the handicap.

I've said it before we need to link the leagues to championship, check back and you'll see were it falls down, we only have 5 senior teams from Antrim in it, you can't have a league linked championship with 5 teams in it, simple. Galway have it and it involves relagation also, Dublin and Cork and couple other counties run their championships off like that. But sure why would it work for us, eh.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Intermediate and Junior Finals this Saturday lads - call them!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Intermediate and Junior Finals this Saturday lads - call them!!!

North Antrim Double

Cloughmills & Cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Intermediate and Junior Finals this Saturday lads - call them!!!

North Antrim Double

Cloughmills & Cushendun

Have Cushendun a new crop of hurlers coming or still reliant on the 30 somethings from their glory days?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Intermediate and Junior Finals this Saturday lads - call them!!!

North Antrim Double

Cloughmills & Cushendun

+1

And it's normally the Belfast teams that win these titles, worrying  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
St Endas are a NA team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
St Endas are a NA team

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

North Belfast ffs

Our kids play in the north  Antrim leagues, that makes us NA?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2012, 04:16:40 PM
I get what NAG is saying.  League for playing championship for winning sort of thing.  The league use to mean alot more.  In fairness we try to take everything serious just didn't always work out that way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 20, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Intermediate and Junior Finals this Saturday lads - call them!!!

North Antrim Double

Cloughmills & Cushendun

Have Cushendun a new crop of hurlers coming or still reliant on the 30 somethings from their glory days?

From what I can see they're nearly all young(ish) players. The only older boy I could see in the programme at the weekend for them was Rory McQuillan. The rest wouldn't have been from the St Pats crop. (It was st pats wasn't it?) of Laverty's, McSparran's, Mort's, O'Hara's etc 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 20, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
going back there imtommygunn

st pats did bring a competitive edge to competitions back in the day

one of the few teams to amalgamate and do well

see st brendans are playing in final of second division championship

many lads would have said st pats had a senior team for a few years, however they were named Cushendun back then,
was there most successful spell in a while  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 02:53:23 PM
Fair bit of pressure being put Loughgiel now, (well on here anyways) and they should be good for it seeing they are going for 3 in a row and on the back of being All Ireland champions.

They play the Dall on Sunday, skeleton team out no doubt and chance for squad players to prepare (should they be required) for a run out against Dunloy.

As for Dunloy, by all accounts they had a bit of zip about them last week and have managed to find that hand passing game they perfected back in the day, finding space and creating scores from it. Was brilliant to watch but was shite to play against, was like chasing shadows ffs.

Final should be a lot closer and I might take Dunloy at the handicap.

I've said it before we need to link the leagues to championship, check back and you'll see were it falls down, we only have 5 senior teams from Antrim in it, you can't have a league linked championship with 5 teams in it, simple. Galway have it and it involves relagation also, Dublin and Cork and couple other counties run their championships off like that. But sure why would it work for us, eh.........
It'll be the juniors running out on Sunday against the Dall by the look of it, if it goes ahead of course.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
Cushendall vs Loughgiel has been postponed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
Official reason SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 06:28:33 PM
Probably because of the county final the weekend after. The county called it off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
Official reason SIE?

They wanted to watch the bogball final!! Up Donegal!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
Official reason SIE?

They wanted to watch the bogball final!! Up Donegal!!
is there a bog ball match on somewhere then?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2012, 08:16:27 PM
Great to see u glens men are aware of the big ball!
We can wait to see u all play as dual clubs!

If that's the official reason however it might raise eyebrows and tempers elsewhere!
Not every fixture gets such leeway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 08:25:11 PM
You'll be waiting a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 20, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
going back there imtommygunn

st pats did bring a competitive edge to competitions back in the day

one of the few teams to amalgamate and do well

see st brendans are playing in final of second division championship

many lads would have said st pats had a senior team for a few years, however they were named Cushendun back then,
was there most successful spell in a while  :P

Controversial... To be fair I don't think those brothers played the county final they got to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 20, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 20, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
going back there imtommygunn

st pats did bring a competitive edge to competitions back in the day

one of the few teams to amalgamate and do well

see st brendans are playing in final of second division championship

many lads would have said st pats had a senior team for a few years, however they were named Cushendun back then,
was there most successful spell in a while  :P

Controversial... To be fair I don't think those brothers played the county final they got to.

from what i remember you're right, however the man they really have to thank for the county final appearance is in the great Ray Matthews who threw a couple at least into the net.  they just stumbled over the rossa, but Ray got them there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 20, 2012, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Dub was a smashing 'keeper though. We haven't had anywhere near as good a 'keeper since.
Correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 20, 2012, 10:14:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Dub was a smashing 'keeper though. We haven't had anywhere near as good a 'keeper since.

was well off county standard imo

but probably was good for rossa

but don't think they have been overly blessed with keepers.  in fairness though i only say that because i can't recall any that stood out

reckon Down usually produce the best keepers in the north

Keith and Clarke exceptional standard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 20, 2012, 10:16:38 PM
Correct again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
Micky McCloskey Rossa goalkeeper at underage up to Minor/ under 21, Great keeper but Never really committed after Minor. Got Injured in a bit of a riot  during a minor championship game and never really had his heart in it afterwards. Was the best keeper rossa produced in recent history just a pity he never really played senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Mc gee as good a keeper as there has been about IMO.   Our own wee man isn't bad either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
Micky McCloskey Rossa goalkeeper at underage up to Minor/ under 21, Great keeper but Never really committed after Minor. Got Injured in a bit of a riot  during a minor championship game and never really had his heart in it afterwards. Was the best keeper rossa produced in recent history just a pity he never really played senior.
Aye, wee Micky was a good 'keeper alright and would have been a natural replacement for Dub but as you say, lost interest after getting his cnut kicked in by grown 'men' and a couple of nights in the hospital. Does security for a couple of shops in the town. You wouldn't see him about the club at all now.

Now where did he get his cnut kicked in? ::)

Marty Devine HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
Think u know mr2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
Think u know mr2

Notice where the eyes are looking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
Slow on the uptake mr2, i see now. Very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 21, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Mc gee as good a keeper as there has been about IMO.   Our own wee man isn't bad either.

+1 on both fronts. Magee a class act on the pitch...inspirational saves, catches, clearances and scores! That 'shock' county final win a couple of years ago as much to do with him as anyone else. DD is consistency personified - reliable, good at organising defence and longevity.

Tough to call it and not going to!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 12:24:04 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 21, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
Mc gee as good a keeper as there has been about IMO.   Our own wee man isn't bad either.

+1 on both fronts. Magee a class act on the pitch...inspirational saves, catches, clearances and scores! That 'shock' county final win a couple of years ago as much to do with him as anyone else. DD is consistency personified - reliable, good at organising defence and longevity.

Tough to call it and not going to!
Yes.  I said that also.  Played massive part in that game.   Mc gee pulls them together shocking well,   Havent seen much of this young lad they have in now.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 06:28:11 AM
 ::)

There's a wile bit of the Oul PKB syndrome going around at the minute. 

On the GK subject, the only thing that put me off Magee was the continual sprinting up and down the field to take frees/penalties. In the games that I saw he missed as many as he scored and it seemed like a waste of time to me. No doubt he can strike a ball, but surely someone out the field was as good at free taking as him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 21, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
What's the story with McGhee now? Is he out of the country or is he playing any hurling at all? Great keeper and could still do a job for Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 08:58:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Dub was a smashing 'keeper though. We haven't had anywhere near as good a 'keeper since.

I had the (dis)pleasure of playing in front of the Dub for a handful of games and my god, you'd need ear muffs on. Also no better man for abusing referee's considering what he turned to in later years.


Noel Keith was the best keeper I've seen in Ulster, he was consistency personified and was well able to come out and catch balls with hurls flying round him, his puck out mightn'd have been as long as some of the others mentioned but it was on a sixpence and dipping if front of the forwards, giving defenders very little chance to get near it. He was also kind enough to do a good bit of umpiring whilst in nets as well, mostly of the wide variety though!

Haven't seen better since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2012, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
Micky McCloskey Rossa goalkeeper at underage up to Minor/ under 21, Great keeper but Never really committed after Minor. Got Injured in a bit of a riot  during a minor championship game and never really had his heart in it afterwards. Was the best keeper rossa produced in recent history just a pity he never really played senior.
Aye, wee Micky was a good 'keeper alright and would have been a natural replacement for Dub but as you say, lost interest after getting his cnut kicked in by grown 'men' and a couple of nights in the hospital. Does security for a couple of shops in the town. You wouldn't see him about the club at all now.

Now where did he get his cnut kicked in? ::)

Marty Devine HS?
Marty was never a 'keeper but stood in and did a job. Up to minor Devine was a smashing hurler, I mean really good. Got a bad knee injury and never recovered enough to continue outfield.

Know Marty well, good lad and still helping out at the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
Cushendall vs Loughgiel has been postponed.

I have it from a very good source that Cushendall wanted to play this game at the weekend, seems strange that the CCC would call off a game after all the shite on that other fourm being spouted by some gobshite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2012, 09:43:46 AM
We were asked to move the game, we refused so Joe stepped in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:46:17 AM
That serious JJ? Asked to move the game for what reason?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2012, 10:36:22 AM
Himm yet we all have to play our games this weekend?
What's lgiel worried about as they have a massive panel. Could they not play a junior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
SiE - Whats PKB? Excuse my ignorance.

Not accusing anyone but all this changing / not-changine games and who makes the call on it just heightens the opportunities (real or not) for clubs to feel agrieved.
The one thing the county (Jim or Joe) should be doing is ensuring consistency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Nag if you really put your mind to it you might be able to think why.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Nag if you really put your mind to it you might be able to think why.

It was early this morning when I posted that and the grey matter still hasnt kicked in, was just a reasonable question as to why the game was off no ulterior motive!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Nag if you really put your mind to it you might be able to think why.

We know the reason but how come certain clubs 'get away' with it rather than others? What's your secret?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
SiE - Whats PKB? Excuse my ignorance.

Not accusing anyone but all this changing / not-changine games and who makes the call on it just heightens the opportunities (real or not) for clubs to feel agrieved.
The one thing the county (Jim or Joe) should be doing is ensuring consistency.
PKB = pot kettle black
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Nag if you really put your mind to it you might be able to think why.

It was early this morning when I posted that and the grey matter still hasnt kicked in, was just a reasonable question as to why the game was off no ulterior motive!
Only ball breaking,  friendly dig.   I don't no.  I suppose if you don't ask you don't get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 11:40:47 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 09:29:58 AM
What is the reason for the game being called off? Jim have another word with Joe?
Nag if you really put your mind to it you might be able to think why.

It was early this morning when I posted that and the grey matter still hasnt kicked in, was just a reasonable question as to why the game was off no ulterior motive!
Only ball breaking,  friendly dig.   I don't no.  I suppose if you don't ask you don't get.

Doesnt really bother me was just wondering anyway.

PS Tell that to Rossa who were trying to get their game's throw in changed and no one would play ball with them but I guess different folks different strokes!  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Only wanted it put forward an hour too. Sure...

Considering that Glenariffe didn't get any leeway the previous weekend, you're hardly surprised.

By the comments from the ever helpful Antrim GAA moderator, he gives the impression that if both teams can agree to move a fixture then that's fine, the CCC won't intervene, however if either disagree the original fixture stands.

So cushendall must have agreed to the refixing of the fixture!!

would the good Doctor being using terms like 'wisener', I hardly think so!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 21, 2012, 12:28:23 PM
We have stopped training now so obviously we would want to play the game sooner rather than later. we did not agree to reschedule it. Not that it matters too much but a bit of double standards with other games not able to be rescheduled. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Only wanted it put forward an hour too. Sure...

Considering that Glenariffe didn't get any leeway the previous weekend, you're hardly surprised.

By the comments from the ever helpful Antrim GAA moderator, he gives the impression that if both teams can agree to move a fixture then that's fine, the CCC won't intervene, however if either disagree the original fixture stands.

So cushendall must have agreed to the refixing of the fixture!!

would the good Doctor being using terms like 'wisener', I hardly think so!!
Cushendall haven't agreed to move the fixture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:50:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Only wanted it put forward an hour too. Sure...

Considering that Glenariffe didn't get any leeway the previous weekend, you're hardly surprised.

By the comments from the ever helpful Antrim GAA moderator, he gives the impression that if both teams can agree to move a fixture then that's fine, the CCC won't intervene, however if either disagree the original fixture stands.

So cushendall must have agreed to the refixing of the fixture!!

would the good Doctor being using terms like 'wisener', I hardly think so!!
Cushendall haven't agreed to move the fixture.

I know, just using the Antrim moderators logic, which you could drive a bus through.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:50:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Only wanted it put forward an hour too. Sure...

Considering that Glenariffe didn't get any leeway the previous weekend, you're hardly surprised.

By the comments from the ever helpful Antrim GAA moderator, he gives the impression that if both teams can agree to move a fixture then that's fine, the CCC won't intervene, however if either disagree the original fixture stands.

So cushendall must have agreed to the refixing of the fixture!!

would the good Doctor being using terms like 'wisener', I hardly think so!!
Cushendall haven't agreed to move the fixture.

I know, just using the Antrim moderators logic, which you could drive a bus through.

There's a few words I never thought I would see used in the same sentence.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
I'm left wondering why Cushendall would object to moving the match anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 21, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
SIE, they are out of the championship, why would they want to prolong their season, it is perfectly natural of them to want to play the game this weekend.

Disgrace that the county could not step in and move all games to 1pm, would not affect anyone badly. People could go to mass on the Saturday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?

It's a case of getting the game played and putting everything to bed. Remember we postponed the home game against Loughgiel twice at their request which seems to be forgotten.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2012, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?
I honestly think Cushendall wouldn't be that bothered about winning the league after getting beat in the Championship last week. Maybe I'm wrong though. I'd say they'd just want the season finished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?

It's a case of getting the game played and putting everything to bed. Remember we postponed the home game against Loughgiel twice at their request which seems to be forgotten.
as we have done for yourselves throughout the years. so what's your point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 02:49:24 PM
No one has yet to answer WHY the game has been moved? Are LG away playing a friendly in Dublin or on a training camp?

If there is an honest and genuine reason like this then by all means the game should be moved for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?

It's a case of getting the game played and putting everything to bed. Remember we postponed the home game against Loughgiel twice at their request which seems to be forgotten.
as we have done for yourselves throughout the years. so what's your point?

You asked why we wouldn't want to play you, I answered. What's your problem regarding my answer? I just stated facts. You're a fierce man for whataboutery going back over years. We have accommodated yourselves this year twice, surely three times in one year is more than enough. And we were slated in the Antrim post Championship supplement for apparently not wanting to play yourselves even though we helping yourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on September 21, 2012, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?

It's a case of getting the game played and putting everything to bed. Remember we postponed the home game against Loughgiel twice at their request which seems to be forgotten.
as we have done for yourselves throughout the years. so what's your point?

You asked why we wouldn't want to play you, I answered. What's your problem regarding my answer? I just stated facts. You're a fierce man for whataboutery going back over years. We have accommodated yourselves this year twice, surely three times in one year is more than enough. And we were slated in the Antrim post Championship supplement for apparently not wanting to play yourselves even though we helping yourselves.

Im guessing nobody wants to state the obvious here as to why Loughgiel would want to change the game from this weekend.  Everyone knows that L'giel and C'dall have 'enjoyed' heated battles against each other in the past few years. From a l'giel point of view they are not going to want to loose any players to injury just 1 week from biggest game of the year and lets face it based on previous games with c'dall, and most notably last years league decider, c'dall would be out to lame as many as they can. So it makes perfect sense to move the game to after the county final when less at stake. Now that might seem strange to some of you but if the shoe where on the other foot id imagine c'dall would not be playing l'giel a week before c'ship final.
So you's can all beat about the bush as to the reasons for putting it off but im guessing it boils down to this. Anyone disagree?

PS To c'dalls credit they did accomodate L'giel in putting off fixtures this year already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2012, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 21, 2012, 03:21:53 PM
I fully understand why LG wanted it moved.

I cannot believe that the request was granted.
Exactly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on September 21, 2012, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2012, 02:24:26 PM
That's fair enough I suppose, but they'd be playing a gather up. I'm sure they'd want to win the league by beating our first choice team. No?

It's a case of getting the game played and putting everything to bed. Remember we postponed the home game against Loughgiel twice at their request which seems to be forgotten.
as we have done for yourselves throughout the years. so what's your point?

You asked why we wouldn't want to play you, I answered. What's your problem regarding my answer? I just stated facts. You're a fierce man for whataboutery going back over years. We have accommodated yourselves this year twice, surely three times in one year is more than enough. And we were slated in the Antrim post Championship supplement for apparently not wanting to play yourselves even though we helping yourselves.

Im guessing nobody wants to state the obvious here as to why Loughgiel would want to change the game from this weekend.  Everyone knows that L'giel and C'dall have 'enjoyed' heated battles against each other in the past few years. From a l'giel point of view they are not going to want to loose any players to injury just 1 week from biggest game of the year and lets face it based on previous games with c'dall, and most notably last years league decider, c'dall would be out to lame as many as they can. So it makes perfect sense to move the game to after the county final when less at stake. Now that might seem strange to some of you but if the shoe where on the other foot id imagine c'dall would not be playing l'giel a week before c'ship final.
So you's can all beat about the bush as to the reasons for putting it off but im guessing it boils down to this. Anyone disagree?

PS To c'dalls credit they did accomodate L'giel in putting off fixtures this year already

The award for stating the completely blindingly obvious goes to........ ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
Ok to sum it up lgiel ate running scared then lol

We're playing our game, cancelling was never an option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 21, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
St Johns 2-06 Rossa 0-8 in the minor final at half time. St Johns with goal just before half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 07:57:29 PM
At the game myself slicker looks like johnnies win as expected but credit Rossa - at the start of the year this would have been thought of as a tanking. Either Rossa have developed or the johnnies have slipped.

Seamy Shannon manages minor and seniors at Rossa!
McFall with the johnnies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 21, 2012, 08:02:32 PM
Going on reports from St Johns win over main rivals Cushendall, I would say it is a case of both, Rossa have definitely upped their standards, I would take a guess that their entire team is back next year? Whilst St Johns who swept all before them at younger age groups have slightly went backwards. This is most of the time only natural of course, as other teams develop. But this final is a good thing for city hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 21, 2012, 08:02:32 PM
Going on reports from St Johns win over main rivals Cushendall, I would say it is a case of both, Rossa have definitely upped their standards, I would take a guess that their entire team is back next year? Whilst St Johns who swept all before them at younger age groups have slightly went backwards. This is most of the time only natural of course, as other teams develop. But this final is a good thing for city hurling.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 08:48:53 PM
Comhgairdeas naomh Eoin!
From a selfish point of view it's great to see an all city final (&3 of semi teams incl galls). 

Its 8 years since Rossa brought the volunteer cup to the city - can I ask our posters (esp north Antrim) how long we think it will be before a city team claims it again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2012, 08:54:04 PM
Be a while yet...

St johns need to bring it through to senior and have a few minor titles which haven't delivered much.

Rossa I think will be back up there in a few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2012, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 08:48:53 PM
Comhgairdeas naomh Eoin!
From a selfish point of view it's great to see an all city final (&3 of semi teams incl galls). 

Its 8 years since Rossa brought the volunteer cup to the city - can I ask our posters (esp north Antrim) how long we think it will be before a city team claims it again?
Not wanting to sound like Cody.   But it depends on themselves.  Attitude towards hurling.   Galls have a shout if they put in the effort,   St johns was one game from a final and didn't look the slight bit interested.   Rossa have a decent set up coming through.   Get out of it what you put in. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 21, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
St Johns seemed to have a very small panel at the semi final, what is going on there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2012, 09:42:44 PM
Never much peace or harmony up the whiterock!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 21, 2012, 10:05:17 PM
They have a small panel- only had 17/18 all year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2012, 11:41:28 PM
Next 6/7 championships to be shared between North Antrim teams.  Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle.  We have a really talented pool at present that took a long time to make the 'breakthrough'.  Hope they win a few more championships as we waited long enough for our time in the sun.

Fair play to 'that' Dunloy crop that came through, they maintained some standard for a lot of years and some are still plugging away.  Hope our boys do the same, you never know when the next famine is on the way which is why our support are milking the current success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 12:22:25 AM
problem is that in belfast there is a small threshold for kids to stay on after minor. unlike a parish the kids come from being on a team to not even being part of a squad(after minor) and with the massive culture shock and the outside influences they end up drifting away.

Unlike the Glens clubs, if these boys go off the radar they dont see other members day in day out and will be allowed to drift. it is all to evident if you look at minor champs between 1990 and 2001, rossa won at least 8 of these minor titles but yet only managed to get 1 senior. even if they did scrape past dunloy in the semis. Just think there needs to be a proper structure in place at these clubs to facilitate the kids coming through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2012, 12:35:12 AM
Very much so gizzy. That awkward age is where city kids can drift away as u say whereas at least the country boys see each other more frequently.

In fairness to Rossa they had a fantastic senior team but kept coming up against a dunloy side who were a once in a generation outfit (prob my favourite club side ever in Antrim).
That said the Rossa boys are renowned for spending plenty time together off the field!

It will be a big test for st johns now with back2back minors to see if they bring anything thru to senior but their record in this respect wouldn't be outstanding.

Surprised not to see loughiel figure at this level - Altho happy galls made semis hopefully enough coming thru there.

But as u say gizzy - minor is still a young age group - its when these boys become men over the coming years that they will be judged.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 12:37:58 AM
from honest opinion dont think B Scuse would have mattered. he had the wrong attitude, in his words "hated the GAA" but was a good player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 12:43:01 AM
BTW still to early a member to know how to attach yhe previous texts. fs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2012, 12:44:40 AM
Click the quote button if thats what u mean.

Agree on Brian close - he never made it at the soccer either.
We can all rhyme of could've beens but his two brothers actually did it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
a lot of players can spring to mind, but i the company of one of his brothers he did com back and say it. and has never came home since. As a player that helped serve his ability i think the rossa are better off.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:05:06 AM
Hardstation, we were all world beaters on the shaws road, its about bringing that onto the Country wide stage. Problem still exists that bar Loughiel,, no other club seems to break any delph
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:19:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2012, 01:13:30 AM
Not having that. Had he not been presented with the chance to play football for money his attitude towards GAA would have been different. He was far and away the best hurler in the county at his age up until he went. Remember Winker, Johnney Campbell etc were all in his age group.

I was in that age group, did he ever represent hid county before this, Answer is no. He didnt give a Fcuk about the game, trust me If he wanted to he would have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
Minor football final v Rasharkin, got sent off and said fairwell, im away 2 boro as he got sent off, he was so lethargic  you wouldnt believe, i was there. so dont give me any excuses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:51:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2012, 01:41:28 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
Minor football final v Rasharkin, got sent off and said fairwell, im away 2 boro as he got sent off, he was so lethargic  you wouldnt believe, i was there. so dont give me any excuses
Excuses? Nobody has offered excuses.

He also belted in 7 goals in the county minor hurling final before he said 'fairwell' (sic).

Ok Wish i was there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2012, 09:38:01 AM
Would u care to elaborate on how he made it at soccer hardstation? He went to boro and after checking the press for him I asked how he was getting on - never kicked a ball and ended up in Darlington!
To be honest u prove my point for me by comparing him to the "sub" Liam Watson. Winker is a hero in his club for the rest of his life - is Brian close? I dare say many in ur club don't know who he is!
And better still - winker has probably had a better soccer career too! Says it all.
His school mates talk of a talent wasted in soccer and as things stand he could and maybe would have ended up little more than another talent wasted in GAA.
It's all hypothetical but his "career" counts for nothing in reality.
We would be better putting stock in the lads who who actually contributed to clubs rather than the missed opportunities - every club has them. They are worthless - literally worthless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 22, 2012, 09:38:01 AM
Would u care to elaborate on how he made it at soccer hardstation? He went to boro and after checking the press for him I asked how he was getting on - never kicked a ball and ended up in Darlington!
His school mates talk of a talent wasted in soccer and as things stand he could and maybe would have ended up little more than another talent wasted in GAA.
It's all hypothetical but his "career" counts for nothing in reality.
We would be better putting stock in the lads who who actually contributed to clubs rather than the missed opportunities - every club has them. They are worthless - literally worthless.

Christ lets not shoot some fella for not sticking with his club. Countless other lads who have been amazing underage and gave up afterwards, not the first and not the last. Move on

Now who'll win today? would have liked to have watched todays finals but off to watch the boxing tonight. Kepp the thread posted lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2012, 09:44:05 AM
True MR2 but I think galls also have a few "could have beens" spoke about more highly than the boys who actually pulled the jersey on.
Don't u be stepping inside the ring now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2012, 10:48:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2012, 01:41:28 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
Minor football final v Rasharkin, got sent off and said fairwell, im away 2 boro as he got sent off, he was so lethargic  you wouldnt believe, i was there. so dont give me any excuses
Excuses? Nobody has offered excuses.

He also belted in 7 goals in the county minor hurling final before he said 'fairwell' (sic).

Think he scored 7-7 in total with Liam Watson scoring 4 or 5 goals for Loughgiel.  They beat a good team of ours handy enough in that final.  Gavin Bell was hurling as well and was great minor hurler.

If I remember right there was a fair old row between the two teams as well, think the year was 1999.

Funny how things worked out.  that Rossa team was one of the best minor teams I remember but they only got one senior out of it.

Loughgiel won the minor in 2000 and 2002 and those players were the ones who went on to win 5 out of 6 U21s and ultimately the AI last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 22, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
Back in the day :D.  Wouldn't be like bell!  Ha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2012, 06:32:37 PM
Any update in the biddies/St Paul game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 22, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
Junior Final was a draw. Cloughmills pipped St Paul's by a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
Congrats to Cloughmills.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
The county guest book moderator seems to have moved on to fairly sensitive ground here, the original fixture set for May was postponed as a mark of respect for one of our underage players that died yet he seems to be questioning that. Maybe I am not reading it right.




Name : Padraig McIlwaine23 September 2012
First of all can I start by saying that I have no problem with Loughgeil getting their match against Cushendall called off. I just want to know how they did it?! My club Glenariffe tried for 6 weeks to get a league game against Rossa moved from Sat at 3pm to the Sunday of that weekend. The county wiped their hands off it even though they set the fixture for a free weekend. We also tried to have the fixture moved to 6pm on the Sat but this was also not allowed. Why is it that the County Fixtures Secretary is the most powerful man in the County? How can he make decisions one weekend in favour one club but the weekend before tell another club that it was not possible?

We haven't the slightest idea why this match was postponed and as we have already replied to a similar post on this, try asking Loughgiel. It is quite clear though, that there are plenty of ludicrous suggestions circulating as to why this match was changed and not one of them is correct. We are also certain the the chairman of the CCC (the only person who can call off a game, by the way) acted within rule and had an perfectly good reason for doing so. Now, you are being more than economical about all that occurred with your game and why this game was changed to this weekend in the first place. CCC can't take stag weekends into account when fixtures are made and if your opposition don't co-operate for a change, then it is a bit silly to think that CCC will when it is for a stag weekend. And there is no such thing as a "free" weekend or a closed date either, by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on September 23, 2012, 10:34:32 AM
The county guestbook moderator is a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 23, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on September 23, 2012, 10:34:32 AM
The county guestbook moderator is a disgrace.
A new low, even for this individual. Would be surprised if the club didnt take this comment a bit further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 23, 2012, 12:20:42 PM
yeah seems a little strange that one club and do one thing and one the other.  Have sympathy for the oisins as players probably looked on that weekend as their chance to head off.  but for flights, hotels etc to be booked and then county to change it, well it is not good.  nice one from the rossa not to accommodate them by a couple of hours.  lets hope they get turned over today.  will watch the build up on tv, then pause and head over to watch this game.  will at final whistle sneak out and avoid score updates, and hopefully watch the rest of the game relatively live
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 23, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
Hardstation might be better placed than me in this one saff but I don't think u can blame Rossa here.

I was to be in waterfoot for the 1st game which was called off - a gleanarrife told me that Rossa agreed to postpone the game due to the tragic bereavement even tho the county wanted it played. So Rossa were the accommodating side here.

As for the refix I can tell u for a fact that that Rossa had flown players home for the game (I think Armstrong & Shannon) and to change the game would have resulted in these flights wasted and Rossa missing players. So it begs the question - why would Rossa switch a game to allow them to lose players and their opposition to gain them? Stag weekend are hardly Rossa's problem?
And on that note if u check back on this board Rossa played Gort this year minus most of their team due to a stag!

I have criticised Rossa many times on this board but on this occasion they have had complete integrity.

I think I am right hardstation here?

I think the oisins will sneak a 1point win today so maybe it won't have much bearing.

I think the real question here is how long this county is going to continue with this guest book moderation. It shames us all. I suggest it's 1 or 2 people stubbornness and attempt to cling to it. Jim Murray needs to get a grip of this. He is guilty by association.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
It's all Loughgiel's fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone

Dunloy 1-2 ?

Final score
Ballycastle 4-16 Dunloy Z squad 0-5  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2012, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 23, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
Hardstation might be better placed than me in this one saff but I don't think u can blame Rossa here.

I was to be in waterfoot for the 1st game which was called off - a gleanarrife told me that Rossa agreed to postpone the game due to the tragic bereavement even tho the county wanted it played. So Rossa were the accommodating side here.

As for the refix I can tell u for a fact that that Rossa had flown players home for the game (I think Armstrong & Shannon) and to change the game would have resulted in these flights wasted and Rossa missing players. So it begs the question - why would Rossa switch a game to allow them to lose players and their opposition to gain them? Stag weekend are hardly Rossa's problem?
And on that note if u check back on this board Rossa played Gort this year minus most of their team due to a stag!

I have criticised Rossa many times on this board but on this occasion they have had complete integrity.

I think I am right hardstation here?

I think the oisins will sneak a 1point win today so maybe it won't have much bearing.

I think the real question here is how long this county is going to continue with this guest book moderation. It shames us all. I suggest it's 1 or 2 people stubbornness and attempt to cling to it. Jim Murray needs to get a grip of this. He is guilty by association.

Not sure anyone blames Rossa, they had us by the balls and fair enough, I would have done the same in their position. Probably been enough said about it now, good luck to whoever wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone

Dunloy 1-2 ?

Final score
Ballycastle 4-16 Dunloy Z squad 0-5  ;D
:-[

Got it off twitter b + a. I wasn't at it myself. Funny thing is it was a Ballycastle man that tweeted it.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone

Dunloy 1-2 ?

Final score
Ballycastle 4-16 Dunloy Z squad 0-5  ;D
:-[

Got it off twitter b + a. I wasn't at it myself. Funny thing is it was a Ballycastle man that tweeted it.   ;D

At least they played  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 05:10:13 PM
Rossa hammered Glenariff. 2-20 to 1-6

Rossa champions, provided they win their last game. Some change around from us beating them at the start of the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 23, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 05:10:13 PM
Rossa hammered Glenariff. 2-20 to 1-6

Rossa champions, provided they win their last game. Some change around from us beating them at the start of the year
Oisins were still on a stag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone

Dunloy 1-2 ?

Final score
Ballycastle 4-16 Dunloy Z squad 0-5  ;D
:-[

Got it off twitter b + a. I wasn't at it myself. Funny thing is it was a Ballycastle man that tweeted it.   ;D

At least they played  :o
its loughgiel's fault. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 23, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
was at the promotion decider, bit of a damp squib.  should have stayed and watch the football.  loudest cheers were from the st pauls club house when man utd and liverpool game was on.  Rossa most impressive and are the team that deserve to test themselves against the big boys.  was talking to an oisins supporter who told me they will lose around 5 next year.  if that is the case they will be playing a very big league game at the end of next year.  I think it will be at the other end.

Roll on the county final and all ireland final.  now that will be a weekend of sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 23, 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Sat-nav.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 24, 2012, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM
Ballycastle 3-7 Dunloy 1-2 20 mins gone

Dunloy 1-2 ?

Final score
Ballycastle 4-16 Dunloy Z squad 0-5  ;D
:-[

Got it off twitter b + a. I wasn't at it myself. Funny thing is it was a Ballycastle man that tweeted it.   ;D

At least they played  :o

Teams need to talk to L'giel on how to get matchs called off obviously. They have certainly come up with some damn fine reasons this year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 24, 2012, 01:52:09 AM











Re: ANTRIM HURLING

« Reply #19401 on: September 22, 2012, 10:48:28 AM »

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Quote from: hardstation on September 22, 2012, 01:41:28 AM



Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 22, 2012, 01:36:27 AM

Minor football final v Rasharkin, got sent off and said fairwell, im away 2 boro as he got sent off, he was so lethargic  you wouldnt believe, i was there. so dont give me any excuses



Excuses? Nobody has offered excuses.

He also belted in 7 goals in the county minor hurling final before he said 'fairwell' (sic).



Think he scored 7-7 in total with Liam Watson scoring 4 or 5 goals for Loughgiel.  They beat a good team of ours handy enough in that final.  Gavin Bell was hurling as well and was great minor hurler.

If I remember right there was a fair old row between the two teams as well, think the year was 1999.

Funny how things worked out.  that Rossa team was one of the best minor teams I remember but they only got one senior out of it.

Loughgiel won the minor in 2000 and 2002 and those players were the ones who went on to win 5 out of 6 U21s and ultimately the AI last year.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2012, 10:51:24 AM by north aontroim gael »


He scored 7 1 and with 15mins left him and watson got sent off then beller got sent off. toner already went off with a broken finger and n devlin went off injured beforehand. final score was 11 11 to 4 5 and winker didnt get the 4 5. as u got 2 late points afyer got sent off.   it is true u do always remember things better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 24, 2012, 02:26:50 AM
why is everyone getting away from the fact that both ur teams are pre
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
paring 4 the final. only difference being the county called 1 game off. there is no way 1 of u will get a sneeky friendly without the other being at the game. i think u should have bpth played ur league games and got on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2012, 08:42:19 AM
We never considered calling our game off. I don't understand why lgiel did with the amount of players they have. Didn't make sense at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2012, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2012, 08:42:19 AM
We never considered calling our game off. I don't understand why lgiel did with the amount of players they have. Didn't make sense at all.

Our game vrs Portaferry was also called off, not sure the reason, may have been that an Uncle of two of their senior hurlers died during the week, but talking to a few Portaferry lads on saturday past they said it was more to do with the county final being on this Saturday..

Not sure if the Crans and St Johns played either.

Maybe the Antrim CCC softened its position and allowed these games to be canceled, so if Dunloy didn't ask, theirs went ahead!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 09:08:20 AM
JC, dont think thats the case, it has been policy all year that unless both clubs are in agreement then the match cannot be cancelled/ postponed without the intervention of the CCC and one man in particular. However this has definitely touched a nerve with him and the county judging by the total over reaction on the website.


This is much a do about nothing really, everyone knows the connection and LG have used it to suit themselves this time, probably as any other club would do. Just means that Cushendall's season is extended by a couple of weeks without much of a reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
we weren't training on it on Friday night. Hopefully some evening This week if we're not under 5 feet of water. I was just curious. Dr.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
we weren't training on it on Friday night. Hopefully some evening This week if we're not under 5 feet of water. I was just curious. Dr.

Hows the votes going for the big wall? Bit of stretch though claiming it will cure obesity in the LG area though  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
OK Hardstation here goes - I have a massive slice of humble pie in front of me!

Firstly well done to Rossa!
I didnt think they had a hope in hell of promotion after watching 2 of their first 3 games. They then steadied the same and got pride and repectability back - but before the game yesterday I still thought the Oisins would pip them.

30seconds into the game I looked right - another high ball into the Rossa box - ends up in the net! Little did we know the Oisins would register just six points in the remainder of the game!

The turnaround Shannon & Hamill have made since the McCullough debacle has been a great testimony to having igenuine club men as opposed to "profile" managers involved - look at Loughiel with PJ! Dunloy have also shown great trust in their own.

I think we have all hinted that Rossa are potentially the stringest team in the city - but I for one have costantly berated and been frustratred by their failure to even look like producing it at times.

But they were fantastic yesterday - mea culpa!
After the early goal I think they responded with 4/5 unanaswered points and bullied Glenarrife. What was noticable at this point was the physical strength of Bell Shannon (man of the match) & Armstrong - but also the ability in young McGuinness. Oisisn couldnt cope with this - and the sticks started to fly. Thought the big midfielder sending off was a result of this - he can have no complaints it was straightforward and in fairness Glenarrife accepted that.

MR2 described the game as a damp squib - which was pretty accurate but this was as a result of Rossa's complete dominance.

Now that I've eaten my humble pie here's the big question!
Can Rossa do what they did yesterday for a full season?
If they can they'll be pushing the big boys before long - its a serious team and a great age profile with the bulk of lads young and a scattering of old heads keeping it all together.
But its been a while since Rossa have lasted a full season - I hope they do!

Phew!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
OK Hardstation here goes - I have a massive slice of humble pie in front of me!

Firstly well done to Rossa!
I didnt think they had a hope in hell of promotion after watching 2 of their first 3 games. They then steadied the same and got pride and repectability back - but before the game yesterday I still thought the Oisins would pip them.

30seconds into the game I looked right - another high ball into the Rossa box - ends up in the net! Little did we know the Oisins would register just six points in the remainder of the game!

The turnaround Shannon & Hamill have made since the McCullough debacle has been a great testimony to having igenuine club men as opposed to "profile" managers involved - look at Loughiel with PJ! Dunloy have also shown great trust in their own.

I think we have all hinted that Rossa are potentially the stringest team in the city - but I for one have costantly berated and been frustratred by their failure to even look like producing it at times.

But they were fantastic yesterday - mea culpa!
After the early goal I think they responded with 4/5 unanaswered points and bullied Glenarrife. What was noticable at this point was the physical strength of Bell Shannon (man of the match) & Armstrong - but also the ability in young McGuinness. Oisisn couldnt cope with this - and the sticks started to fly. Thought the big midfielder sending off was a result of this - he can have no complaints it was straightforward and in fairness Glenarrife accepted that.

MR2 described the game as a damp squib - which was pretty accurate but this was as a result of Rossa's complete dominance.

Now that I've eaten my humble pie here's the big question!
Can Rossa do what they did yesterday for a full season?
If they can they'll be pushing the big boys before long - its a serious team and a great age profile with the bulk of lads young and a scattering of old heads keeping it all together.
But its been a while since Rossa have lasted a full season - I hope they do!

Phew!

The predictions not really your strong point btdtgtt  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
And I have plenty of beaten dockets to prove it NAG!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
we weren't training on it on Friday night. Hopefully some evening This week if we're not under 5 feet of water. I was just curious. Dr.
That rains crap at th min, I hope it stays away as it will ruin everyone's preparations for the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
we weren't training on it on Friday night. Hopefully some evening This week if we're not under 5 feet of water. I was just curious. Dr.
That rains crap at th min, I hope it stays away as it will ruin everyone's preparations for the game

Well it's here for a few days and there are flood warnings also. Preparations were available yesterday but both teams never bothered. The games against Ballycastle and Cushendall would have at least given the players a better prep than what they are getting now. But sure managers know best  :o

Training in that will probably end up with a few colds and ills before the match. Our lads went full pelt at a sevens competition, great prep for the final and they played their best players also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Played the reserves and minors in this game. Gave a few fellas a run out. Ballycastle were more or less full strength and completely dominated from start to finish.
how did yous find the Bellaghy pitch dr?
Never been on it other than to watch football. Why?
How did use find it on fri night.
we weren't training on it on Friday night. Hopefully some evening This week if we're not under 5 feet of water. I was just curious. Dr.
That rains crap at th min, I hope it stays away as it will ruin everyone's preparations for the game

Well it's here for a few days and there are flood warnings also. Preparations were available yesterday but both teams never bothered. The games against Ballycastle and Cushendall would have at least given the players a better prep than what they are getting now. But sure managers know best  :o

Training in that will probably end up with a few colds and ills before the match. Our lads went full pelt at a sevens competition, great prep for the final and they played their best players also

Apples and Oranges MR2

If one of the teams yesterday went flat out and picked up one or a couple of niggly injuries, there would be no hiding place for the manager. Very little will swing this game so can see why the managers will go on the side of caution.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Jesus lads for such big hurling aficionados all over this site, where were you all Friday and Saturday? 3 games Minor, Junior and Intermediate, looking forward to reading opinions etc etc, sad sad situation, and before you get in btdtgtt you probably had to go to Lidl shopping I know I know ;D One positive though, nobody hammering the Refs!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Jesus lads for such big hurling aficionados all over this site, where were you all Friday and Saturday? 3 games Minor, Junior and Intermediate, looking forward to reading opinions etc etc, sad sad situation, and before you get in btdtgtt you probably had to go to Lidl shopping I know I know ;D One positive though, nobody hammering the Refs!!!!

Give you 5mins and I'm sure you will change that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 24, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Jesus lads for such big hurling aficionados all over this site, where were you all Friday and Saturday? 3 games Minor, Junior and Intermediate, looking forward to reading opinions etc etc, sad sad situation, and before you get in btdtgtt you probably had to go to Lidl shopping I know I know ;D One positive though, nobody hammering the Refs!!!!

Give you 5mins and I'm sure you will change that

Only when its truly justified, and I do speak from lots and lots of experience NAG1, hows the camogie going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2012, 01:53:15 PM
Jesus lads for such big hurling aficionados all over this site, where were you all Friday and Saturday? 3 games Minor, Junior and Intermediate, looking forward to reading opinions etc etc, sad sad situation, and before you get in btdtgtt you probably had to go to Lidl shopping I know I know ;D One positive though, nobody hammering the Refs!!!!

We had no complaints, very lucky to get another bite at it tbh. No ref issues whatsoever in our game but the St.Pauls lads might say different about theirs.
That's the way it goes, from the peak of elation to the depths of despair!! Why do we put ourselves through it??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
Now now mandandball I must defend myself!

I was indeed in casement on Saturday but ventured under the stand after the St. Paul's game so was in no state to post! After that the Rossa game was more relevant.

For what little it is worth I thought that the glengormley men were is some ways a better side despite the fact that they nicked the draw from a couple down at the end (Altho could have stole it)
Endas have a brave few young boys so I think aghohill wil suit cushendun for the replay win.

St. Paul's got off to a great start but credit cloughmills never stopped and just gradually pegged them back. In fairness cloughmills were the better side.

Next fixture is the big one on Saturday in casement and I might even watch the bog ball on Friday if permitted by lidl!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
Now now mandandball I must defend myself!

I was indeed in casement on Saturday but ventured under the stand after the St. Paul's game so was in no state to post! After that the Rossa game was more relevant.

For what little it is worth I thought that the glengormley men were is some ways a better side despite the fact that they nicked the draw from a couple down at the end (Altho could have stole it)
Endas have a brave few young boys so I think aghohill wil suit cushendun for the replay win.

St. Paul's got off to a great start but credit cloughmills never stopped and just gradually pegged them back. In fairness cloughmills were the better side.

Next fixture is the big one on Saturday in casement and I might even watch the bog ball on Friday if permitted by lidl!!!

Emmetts have more young boys than us btdtgtt so I hope the opposite is true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 24, 2012, 04:10:59 PM
Well, what a result for Rossa yesterday, but in no way is the job done yet. They still have a huge game to play. Are St Johns already safe in Div 1 or not?

Would be great to have this derby next year as a Div 1 fixture.

On yesterdays game, it really was a complete performance from Rossa, despite the very early set back of the goal they conceded. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues

btdtgtt are you aware that St Endas are a North Antrim Club?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
I suppose I should say rural venue for aghohill but the fact I was getting at is that it's obviously switched out of Belfast for the replay.

But st endas certainly are not a north antrim team! Speak to anyone in the club they are passionate glengormley men. Playing in the north Antrim leagues means little more than our county failing to put proper structures in place. And they are not the only Belfast teams playing in "north Antrim" leagues.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
I just heard that myself SG, beat me to it!!!! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues

btdtgtt are you aware that St Endas are a North Antrim Club?  ::)

Last Man can clear this up no doubt, but i though they re-affiliated with the SW divisional board and, like a number of SW clubs, play hurling in the N. Antrim competitions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
I just heard that myself SG, beat me to it!!!! :D
Lol.   You maybe standing beside me when I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 07:17:41 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues


btdtgtt are you aware that St Endas are a North Antrim Club?  ::)

Last Man can clear this up no doubt, but i though they re-affiliated with the SW divisional board and, like a number of SW clubs, play hurling in the N. Antrim competitions.
In hurling we are N.Antrim lads. All those years ago now when we had nowhere else to go we were taken in by like minded people in the N.Antrim board and we are thankful for that. On seeing the dividends reaped by the hurlers the football fraternity in club spurred on by  all sorts of interested parties ::) set about stopping the "rot" and quickly aligned the football side of the club with SW.
So on this board we are N.Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
I suppose I should say rural venue for aghohill but the fact I was getting at is that it's obviously switched out of Belfast for the replay.

But st endas certainly are not a north antrim team! Speak to anyone in the club they are passionate glengormley men. Playing in the north Antrim leagues means little more than our county failing to put proper structures in place. And they are not the only Belfast teams playing in "north Antrim" leagues.

Get it right up ye!!!!  8) :D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 09:39:25 AM
Genuinely dont see that as an advantage to either side MR2, just curious as to why you would think that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 25, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
I just heard that myself SG, beat me to it!!!! :D
Lol.   You maybe standing beside me when we decided that..

fixed that for you SG lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 07:17:41 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues


btdtgtt are you aware that St Endas are a North Antrim Club?  ::)

Last Man can clear this up no doubt, but i though they re-affiliated with the SW divisional board and, like a number of SW clubs, play hurling in the N. Antrim competitions.
In hurling we are N.Antrim lads. All those years ago now when we had nowhere else to go we were taken in by like minded people in the N.Antrim board and we are thankful for that. On seeing the dividends reaped by the hurlers the football fraternity in club spurred on by  all sorts of interested parties ::) set about stopping the "rot" and quickly aligned the football side of the club with SW.
So on this board we are N.Antrim

I don't care what divisional board St Endas are aligned with - its simple geography that Glengormley is in south antrim and look at a map you'll see its in Belfast.
Using your line of thought the three Ards clubs are suddenly to inform the ordnance survey and croke park that they are now antrim clubs.

Altho your futile point does highlight the inadequacies of the county board to administer a genuine leage structure.
Also North Antrim certainly didnt treat the clubs who joined their leagues very well - they made them play all games away from home. O rather than claim a team - the glensmen were the ones to differentiate!

I could be pedantic and claim the nobody want the Endas last man - but since you'se are from Belfast I will lend my support!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 07:17:41 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 24, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
True Rory mc quillan was their oldest player last man but what I mean is a north Antrim venue will effect the endas young boys and possibly lift the dun.
Altho as I say that is as close to glengormley as glens of Antrim!

St. Enda's will have played at Ahoghill countless more times in recent years than Cushendun in the South West  ;) Leagues


btdtgtt are you aware that St Endas are a North Antrim Club?  ::)

Last Man can clear this up no doubt, but i though they re-affiliated with the SW divisional board and, like a number of SW clubs, play hurling in the N. Antrim competitions.
In hurling we are N.Antrim lads. All those years ago now when we had nowhere else to go we were taken in by like minded people in the N.Antrim board and we are thankful for that. On seeing the dividends reaped by the hurlers the football fraternity in club spurred on by  all sorts of interested parties ::) set about stopping the "rot" and quickly aligned the football side of the club with SW.
So on this board we are N.Antrim

I don't care what divisional board St Endas are aligned with - its simple geography that Glengormley is in south antrim and look at a map you'll see its in Belfast.
Using your line of thought the three Ards clubs are suddenly to inform the ordnance survey and croke park that they are now antrim clubs.

Altho your futile point does highlight the inadequacies of the county board to administer a genuine leage structure.
Also North Antrim certainly didnt treat the clubs who joined their leagues very well - they made them play all games away from home. O rather than claim a team - the glensmen were the ones to differentiate!

I could be pedantic and claim the nobody want the Endas last man - but since you'se are from Belfast I will lend my support!

I think that was a small price to pay for these teams to get into a well structured well run set up. Also it was only for a period of time to allow the teams/ s to bed in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 10:43:09 AM
[Last Man, did St Enda's not have a 'falling out' with South Antrim which later resulted in them applying to join the South West Antrim board for underage football purposes followed by an application to join North Antrim a year or two later for hurling purposes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 25, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
I just heard that myself SG, beat me to it!!!! :D
Lol.   You maybe standing beside me when we decided that..

fixed that for you SG lol
It's Loughgiel's fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
I don't care what divisional board St Endas are aligned with - its simple geography that Glengormley is in south antrim and look at a map you'll see its in Belfast.
Using your line of thought the three Ards clubs are suddenly to inform the ordnance survey and croke park that they are now antrim clubs.

Altho your futile point does highlight the inadequacies of the county board to administer a genuine leage structure.
Also North Antrim certainly didnt treat the clubs who joined their leagues very well - they made them play all games away from home. O rather than claim a team - the glensmen were the ones to differentiate!

I could be pedantic and claim the nobody want the Endas last man - but since you'se are from Belfast I will lend my support!

So your logic is that St Endas are a SA team based on geographical location but Ahoghill (who are a SW Antrim team going by your same logic) are a North Antrim team.  ::)

And if we're going with the whole geographical argument then StEndas have the advantage in terms of handiness to the pitch which makes you point ....well pointless  :)

FYI Rossa played their NA league games home and away this year and will do the same in the years to come. St Galls will eventually do the same (actually I know our club travelled to milltown out of courtesy to play U12's this year in the league). I don't think you'd hear anybody in those clubs stating that NA have treated them unfairly. Both clubs are well respected in North Antrim.

Whilst you vaguely blame the county board for not running all county leagues, North Antrim are getting on with it. Why dont you play a part in administrating in SA and help improve the juvenile structures up there rather than snipe about those in a different geographical location to yourself who are trying to get something done. Reality is that regional league at Juvenile level is not a bad thing. NA just exposes SA's poor efforts at orginising and running the game collectively.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 11:13:42 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 10:43:09 AM
[Last Man, did St Enda's not have a 'falling out' with South Antrim which later resulted in them applying to join the South West Antrim board for underage football purposes followed by an application to join North Antrim a year or two later for hurling purposes?
The hurlers jumped first and were villified by certain factions in SA, in fact we are still under a cloud because of it. Our footballers like us in search of quality regular competitive games applied to SW and they took the "orphans" in.  But sure we are rakin over old ground.

BTW btdtgtt I'll take your support, I know i still have fiends in Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 25, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 25, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2012, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Garett Duffy ref on sat
I just heard that myself SG, beat me to it!!!! :D
Lol.   You maybe standing beside me when we decided that..

fixed that for you SG lol
It's Loughgiel's fault.

??? ??? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
I don't care what divisional board St Endas are aligned with - its simple geography that Glengormley is in south antrim and look at a map you'll see its in Belfast.
Using your line of thought the three Ards clubs are suddenly to inform the ordnance survey and croke park that they are now antrim clubs.

Altho your futile point does highlight the inadequacies of the county board to administer a genuine leage structure.
Also North Antrim certainly didnt treat the clubs who joined their leagues very well - they made them play all games away from home. O rather than claim a team - the glensmen were the ones to differentiate!

I could be pedantic and claim the nobody want the Endas last man - but since you'se are from Belfast I will lend my support!

So your logic is that St Endas are a SA team based on geographical location but Ahoghill (who are a SW Antrim team going by your same logic) are a North Antrim team.  ::)

And if we're going with the whole geographical argument then StEndas have the advantage in terms of handiness to the pitch which makes you point ....well pointless  :)

FYI Rossa played their NA league games home and away this year and will do the same in the years to come. St Galls will eventually do the same (actually I know our club travelled to milltown out of courtesy to play U12's this year in the league). I don't think you'd hear anybody in those clubs stating that NA have treated them unfairly. Both clubs are well respected in North Antrim.

Whilst you vaguely blame the county board for not running all county leagues, North Antrim are getting on with it. Why dont you play a part in administrating in SA and help improve the juvenile structures up there rather than snipe about those in a different geographical location to yourself who are trying to get something done. Reality is that regional league at Juvenile level is not a bad thing. NA just exposes SA's poor efforts at orginising and running the game collectively.

I think the elephant in the room is why do Belfast teams feel the need to go to North Antrim regional board for games?

Are South Antrim doing something different, is it time for All county leagues further down the levels?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 25, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
I don't care what divisional board St Endas are aligned with - its simple geography that Glengormley is in south antrim and look at a map you'll see its in Belfast.
Using your line of thought the three Ards clubs are suddenly to inform the ordnance survey and croke park that they are now antrim clubs.

Altho your futile point does highlight the inadequacies of the county board to administer a genuine leage structure.
Also North Antrim certainly didnt treat the clubs who joined their leagues very well - they made them play all games away from home. O rather than claim a team - the glensmen were the ones to differentiate!

I could be pedantic and claim the nobody want the Endas last man - but since you'se are from Belfast I will lend my support!

So your logic is that St Endas are a SA team based on geographical location but Ahoghill (who are a SW Antrim team going by your same logic) are a North Antrim team.  ::)

And if we're going with the whole geographical argument then StEndas have the advantage in terms of handiness to the pitch which makes you point ....well pointless  :)

FYI Rossa played their NA league games home and away this year and will do the same in the years to come. St Galls will eventually do the same (actually I know our club travelled to milltown out of courtesy to play U12's this year in the league). I don't think you'd hear anybody in those clubs stating that NA have treated them unfairly. Both clubs are well respected in North Antrim.

Whilst you vaguely blame the county board for not running all county leagues, North Antrim are getting on with it. Why dont you play a part in administrating in SA and help improve the juvenile structures up there rather than snipe about those in a different geographical location to yourself who are trying to get something done. Reality is that regional league at Juvenile level is not a bad thing. NA just exposes SA's poor efforts at orginising and running the game collectively.

I think the elephant in the room is why do Belfast teams feel the need to go to North Antrim regional board for games?

Are South Antrim doing something different, is it time for All county leagues further down the levels?
Not yet if ever JC, grass roots development needs looked at first. Progressive city clubs have just resorted to doing their own thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
I think there is a certain amount of apathy towards North Antrim within certain South Antrim elements at county board level. South Antrim organises hurling and football compared to hurling only underage leagues, tournaments etc. organised by North Antrim. I think in the past the county board have attempted to clip the wings of the North Antrim Board. However North Antrim do run well organised underage blitzes, leagues and championships as well as organising the Feis weekend in conjunction with Feis na nGleann etc. a few of the Belfast clubs are now attempting to enter N.A for hurling purposes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
I think there is a certain amount of apathy towards North Antrim within certain South Antrim elements at county board level. South Antrim organises hurling and football compared to hurling only underage leagues, tournaments etc. organised by North Antrim. I think in the past the county board have attempted to clip the wings of the North Antrim Board. However North Antrim do run well organised underage blitzes, leagues and championships as well as organising the Feis weekend in conjunction with Feis na nGleann etc. a few of the Belfast clubs are now attempting to enter N.A for hurling purposes.

I think that is a total over statement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 01:48:46 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 25, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
I think there is a certain amount of apathy towards North Antrim within certain South Antrim elements at county board level. South Antrim organises hurling and football compared to hurling only underage leagues, tournaments etc. organised by North Antrim. I think in the past the county board have attempted to clip the wings of the North Antrim Board. However North Antrim do run well organised underage blitzes, leagues and championships as well as organising the Feis weekend in conjunction with Feis na nGleann etc. a few of the Belfast clubs are now attempting to enter N.A for hurling purposes.

I think that is a total over statement.

Probably the main reason that Belfast clubs are trying to get into N.A.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.

Support? What ya on about? I referee and I'm looking for support in what sense? Anyone refereeing to get support is a fool. You referee cause you want to, a bit like playing hurling and football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.

Support? What ya on about? I referee and I'm looking for support in what sense? Anyone refereeing to get support is a fool. You referee cause you want to, a bit like playing hurling and football.

FFS MR2 its not about you, I know thats hard to take, but its not! making Ref to your club and its total lack of support which you should be fully aware of from what I hear recently ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?

I think if you look into the reasoning behind this you will see that it had nothing to do with a parochial attitude or a them and us thing. It was simply a way of testing the commitment of the clubs involved in wanting to move up the country at the same time it was less of an instant impact on the NA clubs. After the period of time had elapsed the club joining will have proved their commitment and hopefully will have gained strength and numbers from being in a better structured set up.

Win Win. Im sure these clubs will enjoy hosting their NA neighbour once that happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.

Support? What ya on about? I referee and I'm looking for support in what sense? Anyone refereeing to get support is a fool. You referee cause you want to, a bit like playing hurling and football.

FFS MR2 its not about you, I know thats hard to take, but its not! making Ref to your club and its total lack of support which you should be fully aware of from what I hear recently ;)

Hey we all have gripes with our clubs, feck I could write a book about mine!! but you haven't answered my question, what is the support he's looking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.

Support? What ya on about? I referee and I'm looking for support in what sense? Anyone refereeing to get support is a fool. You referee cause you want to, a bit like playing hurling and football.

FFS MR2 its not about you, I know thats hard to take, but its not! making Ref to your club and its total lack of support which you should be fully aware of from what I hear recently ;)

Hey we all have gripes with our clubs, feck I could write a book about mine!! but you haven't answered my question, what is the support he's looking?

A Few lads to umpire for him and escort him off the pitch at full time in case he gets attacked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 25, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 09:37:27 AM
Loughgiel will be happy with Garrets appointment I'd say

More than his/your own club from what I hear MR2, get more support from a pair of socks! Nice way to go out though, good luck to him Im sure he,ll be glad to leave it all behind him after this weekend.

Support? What ya on about? I referee and I'm looking for support in what sense? Anyone refereeing to get support is a fool. You referee cause you want to, a bit like playing hurling and football.

FFS MR2 its not about you, I know thats hard to take, but its not! making Ref to your club and its total lack of support which you should be fully aware of from what I hear recently ;)

Hey we all have gripes with our clubs, feck I could write a book about mine!! but you haven't answered my question, what is the support he's looking?

A Few lads to umpire for him and escort him off the pitch at full time in case he gets attacked.

All Galls men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
In bad taste JC, didn't say he himself was looking support MR2, I know for a fact he sorts out all gear himself with sponsorship and his umpires always look like the dogs anytime Ive seen them, again was referring to your club and its overall lack of involvement/support in anything other than football, and you as stated previously where at the sharp end of that stick where you not?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on September 25, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
MR2 could you elaborate on the Shamrocks/Duffy comment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: Maninthemiddle on September 25, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
In bad taste JC, didn't say he himself was looking support MR2, I know for a fact he sorts out all gear himself with sponsorship and his umpires always look like the dogs anytime Ive seen them, again was referring to your club and its overall lack of involvement/support in anything other than football, and you as stated previously where at the sharp end of that stick where you not?

Yeah but I was just wondering what support was he looking for, cause if he were getting something more than me...... ha

I've some borrowed kit off referees including Garret and Ray, expensive referee kits and not freely available in any of the GAA shops, which is a bit tight considering the price and the many variations of kits. I'm not into the fasion side of things myself, top black shorts whistle and a note book with yellow and red cards should be enough.

Quote from: lonely1 on September 25, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
MR2 could you elaborate on the Shamrocks/Duffy comment?

Yeah Garret will be a great man for the job and referee it fairly. Loughgiel have a tendacy to think they are always up against the rest. Garret won't have any problems calling the shots during the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?

I think if you look into the reasoning behind this you will see that it had nothing to do with a parochial attitude or a them and us thing. It was simply a way of testing the commitment of the clubs involved in wanting to move up the country at the same time it was less of an instant impact on the NA clubs. After the period of time had elapsed the club joining will have proved their commitment and hopefully will have gained strength and numbers from being in a better structured set up.

Win Win. Im sure these clubs will enjoy hosting their NA neighbour once that happens.
I will testify to that, worked just fine for us, no complaints at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?

I think if you look into the reasoning behind this you will see that it had nothing to do with a parochial attitude or a them and us thing. It was simply a way of testing the commitment of the clubs involved in wanting to move up the country at the same time it was less of an instant impact on the NA clubs. After the period of time had elapsed the club joining will have proved their commitment and hopefully will have gained strength and numbers from being in a better structured set up.

Win Win. Im sure these clubs will enjoy hosting their NA neighbour once that happens.

Yes that's fair enough - maybe a bit much "testing" teams commitment but Thats NA perogative.
I think both NA & city teams are better for it no doubt.

So begs the question - why again didn't the county do their job right rather than have a NA league which is in effect the all county league. But then this is is Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 04:31:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2012, 03:03:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?

I think if you look into the reasoning behind this you will see that it had nothing to do with a parochial attitude or a them and us thing. It was simply a way of testing the commitment of the clubs involved in wanting to move up the country at the same time it was less of an instant impact on the NA clubs. After the period of time had elapsed the club joining will have proved their commitment and hopefully will have gained strength and numbers from being in a better structured set up.

Win Win. Im sure these clubs will enjoy hosting their NA neighbour once that happens.

Yes that's fair enough - maybe a bit much "testing" teams commitment but Thats NA perogative.
I think both NA & city teams are better for it no doubt.

So begs the question - why again didn't the county do their job right rather than have a NA league which is in effect the all county league. But then this is is Antrim.
For me there is less of a sense of it being about power and influence and more of just getting on with it for the good of everyone.... A paranoid wee soul me :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2012, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 02:49:09 PM
Tryin to catch up here lads bear with me!

Skull - I hear what you say on Aghohill, think I posted afterwards saying I meant rural rather than NA. My point was more on St Endas leaving the city (where they are from ha ha!)

NAG - I do still think it was out of order asking the city teams to travel to every game, even if thats not still the case. Credit to NA for organising a better structure but at the end of the day its about improving the games for the young people of our whole county. It put a terrible burden on city clubs to do this travelling for the sake of a parochial them and us attitude. I mean NA cant win an all-ireland or advance hurling on their own! Indeed, NA leagues are enhanced by the Belfast teams as they now need the depth too - in effect it is an all county league!
I think Johnny Cool is right about all-county leagues. Its needed becasue there is not sufficient depth in either part of the county to develop - look at the growing number of amalgamations. Playing the same opposition every week in our local areas will not be productive in the long term.

Mind you - dont' think I'm claiming some sort of city victim slant here. We could argue that NA & SW have better organised divisional leagues becasue they are by and large only catering for one code, and while there is some truth in that it doesnt let SA off the hook for diabolical administration. Its the same oul heads doing the same box ticking exercises and with little or no interest outside of the meeting in casement - guys who rarely step on to the field.

As for me getting involved - I spend what time I can helping at underage (admittadly too much with F***kin camogie!) but thats the family! But I can tell you that time is put in at clubs all over Belfast in spite of rather than with SA administration.

So yes - I take everyones point but I think we have been somewhat parochial and its doing nobody any good!
After all Antrim are competing underage at B and C level - says it all.

Hope I've cleared up what I was getting at!

Now whats the comments about Garrett Duffy?
Not supported within Galls?
Is he retiring from the whistle?

A lot of what you're saying makes sense but I think you need to consider the fact that the North Antrim board is regional and thus parochial by nature.

If we want all county leagues it's up to the county board and not the north antrim board to provide them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 09:56:20 PM
Here's the antrim websites list of SA team (of which St Endas is one (they must be going on geographical location  :) )

    Ardoyne Kickhams
    Cardinal O'Donnell's
    Eire Óg
    Gort na Mona
    Henry Joy McCracken's
    John Mitchel's
    Lagmore Gaels
    Lámh Dhearg
    Michael Davitt's
    Michael Dwyer's
    O'Donovan Rossa
    Patrick Pearse's
    Patrick Sarsfield's
    Sean McDermott's
    St. Agnes'
    St. Brigid's, Belfast
    St. Enda's
    St. Gall's
    St. John's
    St. Malachy's
    St. Paul's
    St. Teresa's

Somebody fill in what clubs play hurling
and
of those clubs which ones have regular blitzs U8/10/12?


Surely theres enough teams to get a good wee thing going at underage level accross all in Belfast if the will was there (but obviously isnt). Why is NA getting the blame for SA's failure to organise?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2012, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 09:56:20 PM
Here's the antrim websites list of SA team (of which St Endas is one (they must be going on geographical location  :) )

    Ardoyne Kickhams
    Cardinal O'Donnell's
    Eire Óg
    Gort na Mona
    Henry Joy McCracken's
    John Mitchel's
    Lagmore Gaels
    Lámh Dhearg
    Michael Davitt's
    Michael Dwyer's
    O'Donovan Rossa
    Patrick Pearse's
    Patrick Sarsfield's
    Sean McDermott's
    St. Agnes'
    St. Brigid's, Belfast
    St. Enda's
    St. Gall's
    St. John's
    St. Malachy's
    St. Paul's
    St. Teresa's

Somebody fill in what clubs play hurling
and
of those clubs which ones have regular blitzs U8/10/12?


Surely theres enough teams to get a good wee thing going at underage level accross all in Belfast if the will was there (but obviously isnt). Why is NA getting the blame for SA's failure to organise?

I know ourselves, Rossa, the Johnnies and Sarsfields have been running Blitzs every year, but that would be the limit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
I have never ever heard of Lagmore.

Quite a  few of those clubs are fighting for existence never mind keeping hurling going.

Lamh Dhearg / St Pauls / GNM must do something as well MR?

Eire Og, McCrackens, Mitchells, Lagmore, Dwyers, Pearses, St Brigids and St Malachys have no senior hurling teams. 8 from 22 then with no hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 25, 2012, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
I have never ever heard of Lagmore.

Quite a  few of those clubs are fighting for existence never mind keeping hurling going.

Lamh Dhearg / St Pauls / GNM must do something as well MR?

Eire Og, McCrackens, Mitchells, Lagmore, Dwyers, Pearses, St Brigids and St Malachys have no senior hurling teams. 8 from 22 then with no hurling.
What size of membership is there in these city clubs? Would all the marginal clubs scrabbling around in Div 4/5 not think about amalgamation into sonething stronger?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2012, 10:36:30 PM
Lagmore, McCrackens and Dwyers don't have football teams either. Not sure if they do something in south antrim leagues at all?

I'd say Mitchels ate struggling for numbers too.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
Good god man I am not blaming NA on SA failures!

Check the posts I slated both SA & county that fundamentally they haven't been doin their job! My simple point is that the NA league is in effect a whole county league and so should be administered as such by the county - simple!

The list of clubs would seem fantastic on paper but the reality is that some are football only and some age grades only. The clubs actually ploughing into genuine hurling development are mentioned by MR2 and some of the work going on is outstanding. However the handful of clubs means same opposition meet too often - I am sure it's a similar situation in NA so hence my assertion that all county competition is the way forward.

As for that list of SA clubs - could start a whole different debate!
Better leave it! Tony baloney it's a minefield!

Getting close to Saturday night lads!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
See some mad man has shamrock flag flying in dunlathi  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
See some mad man has shamrock flag flying in dunlathi  ;D
>:( burn this evil rag. Must gather a mob!! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 10:54:22 PM
More than likely a Ballee flag

The enemy of my enemy is my friend  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 25, 2012, 11:09:41 PM
Here talk that divisional boards may be done away with, lots of meetings already taken place and league restructure a real possibility with it. Dunno how many more years divisional boards will serve a purpose anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
I hope that one day we can have a strong well organised SA divisional board and that both can pay their part

You obviously have no clue gizzy what happens in NA to say that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 25, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
I know what u mean, north Antrim is served by NA board, but the county as a whole is not being served by having the three boards running separate ideas and agendas I mean. We don't have a massive county in terms of distance bar the extrems.

I think to develop the county as a whole u can't have 3 separate agendas running underage systems. It's too late when the kids get to 17/18. There needs to be a focus and everyone pulling in the 1 direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2012, 06:10:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 25, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
See some mad man has shamrock flag flying in dunlathi  ;D
>:( burn this evil rag. Must gather a mob!! Lol
There's always one nutter   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2012, 08:52:43 AM
couldnt see it this morning heading to work. must admit if they did it would be quite funny! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2012, 09:18:25 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 25, 2012, 11:26:04 PM
I know what u mean, north Antrim is served by NA board, but the county as a whole is not being served by having the three boards running separate ideas and agendas I mean. We don't have a massive county in terms of distance bar the extrems.

I think to develop the county as a whole u can't have 3 separate agendas running underage systems. It's too late when the kids get to 17/18. There needs to be a focus and everyone pulling in the 1 direction.

3 separate agendas is better than no agenda though. South west and north antrim have a big overlap so different board but would work with each other so not entirely 3 separate agendas. The divisional board in north antrim clearly works and the south antrim one clearly doesn't from the outside looking in so it's not like they have separate agendas - one functions much better than the other so teams are breaking away to get into it.

While some might find the flag funny I'm not sure everyone would!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

Fun Facts...

The last time the sides faced each other Dunloy defeated Loughgiel by 2 points and Loughgiel were only minus M Scullion. 

Loughgiel only scored 1-9 (their lowest scoring total this season) and appeared to be rattled by Dunloy.

It is also worth noting G Duffy was on the whistle that day. 

Dunloy are the only side to have defeated Loughgiel this season (bar Ballycran's victory after E.T in the Ulster League Final against an under-strengthed Loughgiel side).

Dunloy will go in to the game with a "nothing to lose" mentality, they were not expected to reach the final (outside of Dunloy) never mind winning it.

All the pressure will be on Loughgiel for obvious reasons (PS. I don't think they have ever won three consecutive antrim senior titles).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 09:47:56 AM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

Fun Facts...

The last time the sides faced each other Dunloy defeated Loughgiel by 2 points and Loughgiel were only minus M Scullion. 

Loughgiel only scored 1-9 (their lowest scoring total this season) and appeared to be rattled by Dunloy.

It is also worth noting G Duffy was on the whistle that day. 

Dunloy are the only side to have defeated Loughgiel this season (bar Ballycran's victory after E.T in the Ulster League Final against an under-strengthed Loughgiel side).

Dunloy will go in to the game with a "nothing to lose" mentality, they were not expected to reach the final (outside of Dunloy) never mind winning it.

All the pressure will be on Loughgiel for obvious reasons (PS. I don't think they have ever won three consecutive antrim senior titles).

Was Watson not missing that day too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on September 26, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

Fun Facts...

The last time the sides faced each other Dunloy defeated Loughgiel by 2 points and Loughgiel were only minus M Scullion. 

Loughgiel only scored 1-9 (their lowest scoring total this season) and appeared to be rattled by Dunloy.

It is also worth noting G Duffy was on the whistle that day. 

Dunloy are the only side to have defeated Loughgiel this season (bar Ballycran's victory after E.T in the Ulster League Final against an under-strengthed Loughgiel side).

Dunloy will go in to the game with a "nothing to lose" mentality, they were not expected to reach the final (outside of Dunloy) never mind winning it.

All the pressure will be on Loughgiel for obvious reasons (PS. I don't think they have ever won three consecutive antrim senior titles).

Loughgiel won 3 in a row in 66, 67 and 68. Lost it in 69 and won again in 70 and 71.
I think the P.P price is a little off the mark too. To me its a 50/50 game and as you quite rightly say Dunloy have nothing to lose.  Should be an interesting one. 
I take what you are saying about the league game but as far as im aware C'dall beat Dunloy by 10-12 points in both league games this year so i wouldnt take too much stock of that..

Point or two either way i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 26, 2012, 10:11:05 AM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

Fun Facts...

The last time the sides faced each other Dunloy defeated Loughgiel by 2 points and Loughgiel were only minus M Scullion. 

Loughgiel only scored 1-9 (their lowest scoring total this season) and appeared to be rattled by Dunloy.

It is also worth noting G Duffy was on the whistle that day. 

Dunloy are the only side to have defeated Loughgiel this season (bar Ballycran's victory after E.T in the Ulster League Final against an under-strengthed Loughgiel side).

Dunloy will go in to the game with a "nothing to lose" mentality, they were not expected to reach the final (outside of Dunloy) never mind winning it.

All the pressure will be on Loughgiel for obvious reasons (PS. I don't think they have ever won three consecutive antrim senior titles).

ssssssssshhhhhhhh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on September 26, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

Fun Facts...

The last time the sides faced each other Dunloy defeated Loughgiel by 2 points and Loughgiel were only minus M Scullion. 

Loughgiel only scored 1-9 (their lowest scoring total this season) and appeared to be rattled by Dunloy.

It is also worth noting G Duffy was on the whistle that day. 

Dunloy are the only side to have defeated Loughgiel this season (bar Ballycran's victory after E.T in the Ulster League Final against an under-strengthed Loughgiel side).

Dunloy will go in to the game with a "nothing to lose" mentality, they were not expected to reach the final (outside of Dunloy) never mind winning it.

All the pressure will be on Loughgiel for obvious reasons (PS. I don't think they have ever won three consecutive antrim senior titles).

Loughgiel won 3 in a row in 66, 67 and 68. Lost it in 69 and won again in 70 and 71.
I think the P.P price is a little off the mark too. To me its a 50/50 game and as you quite rightly say Dunloy have nothing to lose.  Should be an interesting one. 
I take what you are saying about the league game but as far as im aware C'dall beat Dunloy by 10-12 points in both league games this year so i wouldnt take too much stock of that..

Point or two either way i think.

Apologies it was 4 in a row they have never achieved (as Dunloy did from 2000-2003).

Watson has gone missing for a few games now!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2012, 10:30:41 AM
PP prices are a good bit out.  No way are Dunloy 9/4 shots.

Would have Loughgiel as favourites but not by that much.

If Loughgiel can stop Dunloy bagging a few goals I fancy us to win with a few points to spare.  I think we have a better all round scoring threat and unless their FF line bags a few I think we should be OK.

That said its a derby, Dunloy are no doubt a very hungry team and Loughgiel undoubetdly under more pressure to deliver.  If we don't match Dubloys hunger in the middle third we could be in bother.  Hopefully our stronger bench (in my opinion) can get us over the line.

Loughgiel by 4 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 10:39:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2012, 06:10:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 25, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
See some mad man has shamrock flag flying in dunlathi  ;D
>:( burn this evil rag. Must gather a mob!! Lol
There's always one nutter   :D

Could be someone you know very well SIE!   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
I agree the Dunloy price is generous but that's irrelevant if the Shamrock win as expected by most.
Maybe the handicap betting will be more interesting.
MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
I agree the Dunloy price is generous but that's irrelevant if the Shamrock win as expected by most.
Maybe the handicap betting will be more interesting.
MR2?

The Dunloy ones will be glad to hear your prediction btdtgtt   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
Loughgiel have been expected to win finals before as you no HS.   Its if we go about our job the right way with right frame of mind.    But I do hope your right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 11:57:45 AM
I agree the Dunloy price is generous but that's irrelevant if the Shamrock win as expected by most.
Maybe the handicap betting will be more interesting.
MR2?

The Dunloy ones will be glad to hear your prediction btdtgtt   ;)

Yes! And the bookies glad of my money as usual!
I've got to call one right some day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

That price is not huge at all. LG are the All Ireland champions and have to be priced at that. Just over 2/1 is not big for a Dunloy team who many thought were away to fcuk last year.
I wouldn't touch it. Reckon LG will eat and shite themselves
- you should remember 2004 better than most!

You Mc Cooey's have not idea what it at stake when it comes to Loughgiel V Dunloy.  Things quiet at the minute but their will be fireworks! Not going to say much more until after the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2012, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

That price is not huge at all. LG are the All Ireland champions and have to be priced at that. Just over 2/1 is not big for a Dunloy team who many thought were away to fcuk last year.
I wouldn't touch it. Reckon LG will eat and shite them.

theres nothing this year between the teams to even suggest that. the league form counts for zero. championship hurling is ten paces above that. lgiel beat what was in front of them in their games, as did we so both teams are there on merit in the final.

will be nothing between the two. im obvioulsy hoping we win and come out on a 2 point win here but this game will swing either way on sat night. luck, desire and commitment along with ability will win this. both have it in abundance. i predict a cracker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 02:09:54 PM
And so it starts!
This is the beauty of it lads - all our opinions and come Saturday night we'll know for sure!

I agree with Dunloy realist on this - think it'll be a cracker!

Bring it on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 26, 2012, 02:15:47 PM
I'm enjoying the hurling debate at the moment in regards to the county final on Saturday. However, just to go back very quickly. At underage it seems there are plenty of tournaments run in SA. The board can not hold a gun to clubs heads and make them, at the end of the day, all this movement taking place from SA teams to NA leagues is, yes, for better and more competitive games but this is only down to the clubs and not the respective divisional boards.

Would like to see a Dunloy win on Saturday, despite not being a big fan of their whistle blowing outfield player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
The thing that youse fail to understand CS11 is that "the north antrim board" are just the body trusted to get the fixtures in place and inform all clubs competing in them when they are, but behind that there are people in every club conversing with each other and taking on their responsibility in delivering for the good of the game and their club. We don't expect "the board" to do everything. Clubs take on a large share of the orginisational burden especially at the younger agegroups as it would be completely unworkable to expect somebody on a board to look after it. The will has to be there across all clubs to do their bit and for each club to be equally as interested in the strengthening of the game across as many clubs as possible to ensure a good standard develops.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 26, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
The thing that youse fail to understand CS11 is that "the north antrim board" are just the body trusted to get the fixtures in place and inform all clubs competing in them when they are, but behind that there are people in every club conversing with each other and taking on their responsibility in delivering for the good of the game and their club. We don't expect "the board" to do everything. Clubs take on a large share of the orginisational burden especially at the younger agegroups as it would be completely unworkable to expect somebody on a board to look after it. The will has to be there across all clubs to do their bit and for each club to be equally as interested in the strengthening of the game across as many clubs as possible to ensure a good standard develops.

But are CM and MJ not doing the same for the big 2 in Belfast Skull - oh yeah that's right they aren't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

That price is not huge at all. LG are the All Ireland champions and have to be priced at that. Just over 2/1 is not big for a Dunloy team who many thought were away to fcuk last year.
I wouldn't touch it. Reckon LG will eat and shite themselves
- you should remember 2004 better than most!

You Mc Cooey's have not idea what it at stake when it comes to Loughgiel V Dunloy.  Things quiet at the minute but their will be fireworks! Not going to say much more until after the final.
I'd say there will be plenty of slabbers lining up after the game to put there digs in, if dunloy do happen to cause an upset,  it's like this.  Loughgiel no what's infront of them. Last march is history.    Counts for nothing on Saturday.    May the best team win!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Gael on September 26, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 26, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Loughgiel 4/11  Dunloy 9/4 with P.P - think the price for Dunloy is huge.

That price is not huge at all. LG are the All Ireland champions and have to be priced at that. Just over 2/1 is not big for a Dunloy team who many thought were away to fcuk last year.
I wouldn't touch it. Reckon LG will eat and shite themselves
- you should remember 2004 better than most!

You Mc Cooey's have not idea what it at stake when it comes to Loughgiel V Dunloy.  Things quiet at the minute but their will be fireworks! Not going to say much more until after the final.
I'd say there will be plenty of slabbers lining up after the game to put there digs in, if dunloy do happen to cause an upset,  it's like this.  Loughgiel no what's infront of them. Last march is history.    Counts for nothing on Saturday.    May the best team win!!

Well SG there shouldnt be too many slabbering on here as no one bar the Dunloy men are giving themselves a shot. So you should be safe on here if nothing else if the worst does happen!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 26, 2012, 04:05:31 PM
NAG1, What is behind your dig at those two hurling men? I assume it's in relation to them looking after their own clubs solely? Not a crime and if every club done so, then the whole county would be in a lot better state. Just a wee bit of curiosity, wouldn't be sure off the top of my head. But i'll do out a list of clubs I feel put in sufficient work at underage level.

SA - Rossa, St Johns, GNM, Sars, Galls, LD, Pauls now starting. Anyone i've missed out?

NA- B'castle, Dunloy, L'giel, C'dall, Glenshesk and C'mills?

Those simple lists show that it is pretty even. It could even be argued that the NA underage leagues are only as successful as they are due to the outside teams that are taking place in them. Stop being so elitest and realise that this county will go NOWHERE without a strong city hurling representation.

I left out Endas as people would only argue which group to place them in, but some great work being carried out over there, and also being continued in certain schools. Malachys making big strides in the hurling, Last Man?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
What about you as dall man nag?   How's it going to go.  How can dunloy beat us and how can loughgiel insure they don't get beat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
What about you as dall man nag?   How's it going to go.  How can dunloy beat us and how can loughgiel insure they don't get beat

You want me to give that sort of information away for free  ;)

Think it will be a close one, the lights and the wet ball will see to that I would say.

Think its simple enough no magic or great secret to it. If Dunloy work hard enough, close down BMcA, Skinner, Eddie & LW cut the supply of ball going in would go a long way to limiting your scoring power. Easier said that done mind you. Especially on casement.

LG need to turn up as All Ireland champs and show everyone how good they are and if they do they wont be beat.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
It's a pity if the weather plays part in it.   Would nearly rather the final was put back to week after AI.  But what can you do. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2012, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 06:21:10 PM
It's a pity if the weather plays part in it.   Would nearly rather the final was put back to week after AI.  But what can you do.

Weather won't play a part surely, are you saying Loughgiel are a fair weather team? Sure they won in Parnell in Feb.

Besides, the weather is to be sunny in Belfast


Loughgiels to lose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Not saying that at all MR2!    Old pissy night wouldnt be much Craic is all am saying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 09:34:26 PM
Not saying that at all MR2!    Old pissy night wouldnt be much Craic is all am saying

Well its not to rain so will be good craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 10:05:41 PM
Ok lads sure just for the Craic what's say everyone make their exact prediction and we'll see how we get on!

I will go first - shamrocks by 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 26, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
Lg 2-18 Dny 1-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 10:56:36 PM
3-11 to 0-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2012, 10:57:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2012, 10:05:41 PM
Ok lads sure just for the Craic what's say everyone make their exact prediction and we'll see how we get on!

I will go first - shamrocks by 5.
shamrocks by 5 isnt exact mate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2012, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 26, 2012, 04:05:31 PM
NAG1, What is behind your dig at those two hurling men? I assume it's in relation to them looking after their own clubs solely? Not a crime and if every club done so, then the whole county would be in a lot better state. Just a wee bit of curiosity, wouldn't be sure off the top of my head. But i'll do out a list of clubs I feel put in sufficient work at underage level.

SA - Rossa, St Johns, GNM, Sars, Galls, LD, Pauls now starting. Anyone i've missed out?

NA- B'castle, Dunloy, L'giel, C'dall, Glenshesk and C'mills?

Those simple lists show that it is pretty even. It could even be argued that the NA underage leagues are only as successful as they are due to the outside teams that are taking place in them. Stop being so elitest and realise that this county will go NOWHERE without a strong city hurling representation.

I left out Endas as people would only argue which group to place them in, but some great work being carried out over there, and also being continued in certain schools. Malachys making big strides in the hurling, Last Man?

There are a lot more in "north" Antrim than that. Creggan and ahoghill have made big strides in the last number of years. St Brendan's have been competing much more at the higher end of undage too- amalgamation due to numbers. Rasharkin are improving rightly too. Not bein in division 1 or 2 doesn't mean the work being put in.

Loughgiel and Dunloy is an interesting one. There would be nothing worse for loughgiel than to be knocked of their perch by Dunloy. You can even sense a bit less cockiness and maybe some fear on here. There is no love lost between these teams - I've seen a couple of messy things at these matches over the years. None have been on the pitch either! It is a very different dynamic than
Loughgiel cushendall would have brought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2012, 01:23:20 AM
Have to agree. Most lgiel people wanted cdall to win tho most won't admit it. If cdall had of beat us lgiel knew they had tr edge mentally on them probably.
Dunloy winning, well that put the cat amongst the pigeons. They weren't wanting that, a derby against a team that wouldn't fear them? Lol def not what they wanted to pit all their crowns on the line for!!
I know we can win this game, I don't fear lgiel whatsoever. I respect them for what they have achieved but fear them, most dwf not. No dunloy team would fear the red and white.
Same applies to lgiel people I suppose on the other foot.
Form means nothing in these games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 02:08:48 AM
I don't think so realist,   I believe that loughgiel would have jumped at a dunloy loughgiel final at start of year.   Still believe c dall are a better side than use. IMO.   Our boys should and I think will be bouncing to get a chance to get one over are wee neighbours.  After those few county final defeats in that famous 6 in a row!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Watch the DVD of the semi final. The lgiel people in the crowd clapped when cdall scored! ;) lol they knew who they wanted in the final. :p
Your prob right on the wanting to get one back over on us. That two final defeats in 03 & 07 hurt lgiel, ESP the last one and the idiots with the banner. Use will be dying to get one over on us on sat night.
I hope use are too transfixed on that as that won't win the game on sat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 02:08:48 AM
I don't think so realist,   I believe that loughgiel would have jumped at a dunloy loughgiel final at start of year.   Still believe c dall are a better side than use. IMO.   Our boys should and I think will be bouncing to get a chance to get one over are wee neighbours.  After those few county final defeats in that famous 6 in a row!

After the way got dumped out of the championship the previous years, that wouldnt surprise me. To the credit of the players themselves and the management, Dunloy have came on in a fair old bit since then and we're in the final on merit. Theres more belief now in the team and we will be going into the game confident I'm sure of performing well. Do that and we'll give manys a team something to worry about. Really looking forward to the game and hope that both sets of supporters focus on supporting their team throughout.

Reckon our squad are using Donal Dan slabbering in the bridge about Tommy Moore to drive them on Sat night. You need something don't you  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 02:08:48 AM
I don't think so realist,   I believe that loughgiel would have jumped at a dunloy loughgiel final at start of year.   Still believe c dall are a better side than use. IMO.   Our boys should and I think will be bouncing to get a chance to get one over are wee neighbours.  After those few county final defeats in that famous 6 in a row!

After the way got dumped out of the championship the previous years, that wouldnt surprise me. To the credit of the players themselves and the management, Dunloy have came on in a fair old bit since then and we're in the final on merit. Theres more belief now in the team and we will be going into the game confident I'm sure of performing well. Do that and we'll give manys a team something to worry about. Really looking forward to the game and hope that both sets of supporters focus on supporting their team throughout.

Reckon our squad are using Donal Dan slabbering in the bridge about Tommy Moore to drive them on Sat night. You need something don't you  ::)
i've been in the bridge myself quite a few times over the last few months and its always been the dunloy ones coming up to me slabbering about hurling. I'd have thought it would have been wee Davy that yous would have been using as your inspiration.

To be fair to myself I've been tipping dunloy all season, I still think we' ll have too much up front for them . 3-13 to 1-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2012, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 02:08:48 AM
I don't think so realist,   I believe that loughgiel would have jumped at a dunloy loughgiel final at start of year.   Still believe c dall are a better side than use. IMO.   Our boys should and I think will be bouncing to get a chance to get one over are wee neighbours.  After those few county final defeats in that famous 6 in a row!

After the way got dumped out of the championship the previous years, that wouldnt surprise me. To the credit of the players themselves and the management, Dunloy have came on in a fair old bit since then and we're in the final on merit. Theres more belief now in the team and we will be going into the game confident I'm sure of performing well. Do that and we'll give manys a team something to worry about. Really looking forward to the game and hope that both sets of supporters focus on supporting their team throughout.

Reckon our squad are using Donal Dan slabbering in the bridge about Tommy Moore to drive them on Sat night. You need something don't you  ::)
or last sunday night going on about a helicopoter that we are using to spy on their training!  ::)

best one ive heard in years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
i've been in the bridge myself quite a few times over the last few months and its always been the dunloy ones coming up to me slabbering about hurling. I'd have thought it would have been wee Davy that yous would have been using as your inspiration.

To be fair to myself I've been tipping dunloy all season, I still think we' ll have too much up front for them . 3-13 to 1-10

Yeah  ::) ....there you were just popping in for a quiet pint. One wonders why you kept coming back with all those locals bending your ear. God love ye.  :)

Tell the truth SIE...you loved it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 08:57:34 AM
i've been in the bridge myself quite a few times over the last few months and its always been the dunloy ones coming up to me slabbering about hurling. I'd have thought it would have been wee Davy that yous would have been using as your inspiration.

To be fair to myself I've been tipping dunloy all season, I still think we' ll have too much up front for them . 3-13 to 1-10

Yeah  ::) ....there you were just popping in for a quiet pint. One wonders why you kept coming back with all those locals bending your ear. God love ye.  :)

Tell the truth SIE...you loved it
i love the freezing pint bottles  ;)

What's your prediction skull?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 10:16:29 AM
Only thing I'm predicting is that Donal will be in Dunloy at some stage on Sunday

Everything else is up in the air
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 10:16:29 AM
Only thing I'm predicting is that Donal will be in Dunloy at some stage on Sunday

Everything else is up in the air
I'll be in it myself on Sunday and possibly Saturday night/ Sunday morning.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
I can assure you I'll not be in the pound
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 27, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Watch the DVD of the semi final. The lgiel people in the crowd clapped when cdall scored! ;) lol they knew who they wanted in the final. :p
Your prob right on the wanting to get one back over on us. That two final defeats in 03 & 07 hurt lgiel, ESP the last one and the idiots with the banner. Use will be dying to get one over on us on sat night.
I hope use are too transfixed on that as that won't win the game on sat.
Oh I remember the banner well mate,   Will hurt to the day I die. Transfixed  :D    Don't think players need anything else than to see the  yellow and green jerseys to be honest :).  Same with your boys and the red and white.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 27, 2012, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
I can assure you I'll not be in the pound

why not if you listen to SIE theres only slabbering about hurling done in Dunloy Public house's. SIE if i was  LG to the core I would drink in the bridge to before the pound. went in there once and as MR2 once said '' even the pool balls stop rolling and look at you'' I think you will find that most pubs on a Saturday night will have slabbering. personally i think its something to do with alcohol consumption more than local sporting rivalry's.

As for the match instead of quoting scores and outcomes. has anybody any views on tactics as this will have a large impact on the game. My view is if we can snuff out the influence of watson(which one will show up jackyl or hyde), mc closkey and barney we are halfway there. Our defence has been good of late so barney is the big worry. as for dunloy I think loughgeils full back line has been shaky of late(5 goals against lesser opponents) so i would like to see some 50 50 ball going in there. All the smart money on LG and quite rightly so but i still think we can win this one if it all clicks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 11:27:01 AM
Indeed nah, I'll be in the pound and wherever else the notion takes me. Plenty of slabbers everywhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 27, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 27, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Watch the DVD of the semi final. The lgiel people in the crowd clapped when cdall scored! ;) lol they knew who they wanted in the final. :p
Your prob right on the wanting to get one back over on us. That two final defeats in 03 & 07 hurt lgiel, ESP the last one and the idiots with the banner. Use will be dying to get one over on us on sat night.
I hope use are too transfixed on that as that won't win the game on sat.
Oh I remember the banner well mate,   Will hurt to the day I die. Transfixed  :D    Don't think players need anything else than to see the  yellow and green jerseys to be honest :).  Same with your boys and the red and white.

that was a disgrace that day, most people round the club disgusted with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 11:33:58 AM
I no,   Most decent hurling people around dunloy has said the same.   I remember hearing that one of the mushys told a certain lad to take it down or he'd break his jaw  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Not a fan of naming people on message boards, poor form in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 11:52:05 AM
Btw, I found this android app for keeping score during matches. I thought some of you might be interested.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_chat2joe.GAA_Scoreboard&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImFwcGludmVudG9yLmFpX2NoYXQyam9lLkdBQV9TY29yZWJvYXJkIl0.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 27, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Not a fan of naming people on message boards, poor form in my opinion.

Agreed, especialy in a non hurling context.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 27, 2012, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2012, 10:30:41 AM
PP prices are a good bit out.  No way are Dunloy 9/4 shots.

Would have Loughgiel as favourites but not by that much.

If Loughgiel can stop Dunloy bagging a few goals I fancy us to win with a few points to spare.  I think we have a better all round scoring threat and unless their FF line bags a few I think we should be OK.

That said its a derby, Dunloy are no doubt a very hungry team and Loughgiel undoubetdly under more pressure to deliver.  If we don't match Dubloys hunger in the middle third we could be in bother.  Hopefully our stronger bench (in my opinion) can get us over the line.

Loughgiel by 4 points.


^  Provided we can keep 15 men on the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2012, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
Not a fan of naming people on message boards, poor form in my opinion.

In hindsight maybe it was...my bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 27, 2012, 01:22:19 PM
I would take Dunloy plus 6 if anyone was offering it...cant see it being much more than that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 27, 2012, 02:59:27 PM
A fan of what both teams have done for hurling. Just hope its a proper spectacle.  I struggle with the notion that Dunloy can win it, due to last years performances.  Cant see how they have improved their championship performances that much.  However maybe being dumped out early last year shocked them, maybe they are pumped for it!

We shall see - just hope its a good game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2012, 03:37:33 PM
I'd take a point to nothing.  Long as it's for us!!   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2012, 04:53:58 PM
Loughgiel are nicely priced at -3 evens I fancy a 4 point win if Dunloy get off to a poor start. Before this wasn't a problem, as Loughgiel used to implode, but they haven't done that in a while and can win a game coming from behind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 28, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Let the best team win GO ON DUNLOY!!!!!!!!!!   ;D

sorry to say

Loughgeil 3-12 Dunloy 1-11

Shams need nothin more than playin Dunloy but somethin nobody said

shams & the Town have 17 titles each. A win for the Shams puts them out on there own

GO ON DUNLOY!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2012, 11:17:33 AM
Well lads, it's nearly upon us. I hope both teams play well, hard but fair and both have their full compliment at the end.Good luck to both teams and may the shamrocks win.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2012, 07:36:03 PM
1-4 each ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 07:39:49 PM
5 scores each?? Christ it's low scoring. We managed 1-9 last night in bog ball ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 08:14:05 PM
3 in it to Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2012, 08:20:32 PM
Loughgiel win by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2012, 08:20:32 PM
Loughgiel win by 4

Wasn't at it but seems low scoring enough, we scored 1-11 ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2012, 08:52:40 PM
Dunloy had some horrible wides, they could have won it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 29, 2012, 09:12:19 PM
Would suggest it's the second year in a row that the opposition lost it rather than the Bodies won it. However, they won't care one bit.

Serious wides from Dunloy and never got the scoreboard ticking over in the second half as they should have done.

Nowhere near All Ireland form from Bodies but they can build through Ulster and go again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2012, 09:35:55 PM
The better (more composed) team won. We battled bravely but didn't have that bit of composure and belief when it came to it. Real shame. It was there for us. Well done loughgiel

Gutted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
well done to LG and good luck in ulster and beyond

as for us we threw it away, 19 wides someone told me on the road out. if we would have put half our frees over we would have won it. this is worse than being beat into the ground by a better team. one sour note. when are refs gonna play all the extra time when a team is plainly winding down the clock with gamesmanship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
well done to LG and good luck in ulster and beyond

as for us we threw it away, 19 wides someone told me on the road out. if we would have put half our frees over we would have won it. this is worse than being beat into the ground by a better team. one sour note. when are refs gonna play all the extra time when a team is plainly winding down the clock with gamesmanship.

Look if Dunloy had have put over a third of their wides you wouldn't be talking about referees ffs

Train all year and manage 1-7 say's it all really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
well done to LG and good luck in ulster and beyond

as for us we threw it away, 19 wides someone told me on the road out. if we would have put half our frees over we would have won it. this is worse than being beat into the ground by a better team. one sour note. when are refs gonna play all the extra time when a team is plainly winding down the clock with gamesmanship.

Look if Dunloy had have put over a third of their wides you wouldn't be talking about referees ffs

Train all year and manage 1-7 say's it all really

well the all Ireland champs only scored 4 more, but your right I couldn't be leave what i was seeing. I wonder is under lights throwing off lads radars. Watson wasn't popping them over as usual. Poor shorty i feel for the lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 11:33:57 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2012, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
well done to LG and good luck in ulster and beyond

as for us we threw it away, 19 wides someone told me on the road out. if we would have put half our frees over we would have won it. this is worse than being beat into the ground by a better team. one sour note. when are refs gonna play all the extra time when a team is plainly winding down the clock with gamesmanship.

Look if Dunloy had have put over a third of their wides you wouldn't be talking about referees ffs

Train all year and manage 1-7 say's it all really

well the all Ireland champs only scored 4 more, but your right I couldn't be leave what i was seeing. I wonder is under lights throwing off lads radars. Watson wasn't popping them over as usual. Poor shorty i feel for the lad.

You won't see better lights at a county ground. football games usually are low scoring so I expected our game to be low scoring, when the best forwards on show at the county final underperformed like that it's worrying. Pressure off now so they will canter through Ulster and prepare for a tough challenge from Galway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 30, 2012, 12:37:25 AM
Was a tense game, well contested and both teams gave it the kitchen sink but was pretty dire. Dunloy had an absolute 'mare with their shooting and Loughgiel just had that extra bit of composure.
Must say that I think that is the biggest attendance I ever saw at a county final, anyone want to have a guess how many were there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 12:41:10 AM
Hurling is not a game to be played under floodlights. Free takers of the calibre of Shorty and winker don't miss those frees, simple.

and as said before Dunloy had the chances and didn't take them. It hurts like hell, we know more than any other over the last ten years how it feels. you'll get over it.

We will improve, we didn't get out of 2nd gear today and that was obvious. I thought gd had a good game and so did the Dunloy supporters I spoke to after the game.

Anyway, on with the beer.  :D



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 01:31:36 AM
Hot off the press lads, i know yous were wondering but The mighty Endas won the JHC v Cushendun today.. hard luck Dunloy....gave it some rattle for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
The power of social media -

@liamwatson5 o yes county final to nite waaaat ??? ok we won and am not finished yet mushy ha ha # upthefuckinshamrocks#3inarow # party

@liamwatson5 #helicopter# longwayfromclaire # longwayfromhome # davymoney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 30, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
The power of social media -

@liamwatson5 o yes county final to nite waaaat ??? ok we won and am not finished yet mushy ha ha # upthefuckinshamrocks#3inarow # party

@liamwatson5 #helicopter# longwayfromclaire # longwayfromhome # davymoney
I just can't help feelin sorry for the lad ??? Not right in the head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 08:52:11 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 01:31:36 AM
Hot off the press lads, i know yous were wondering but The mighty Endas won the JHC v Cushendun today.. hard luck Dunloy....gave it some rattle for sure.

Well done big man, some shock in fairness and well deserved, maybe this will spur ya's on to get out of that div and push on. Hard work starts now. Maybe a new manager with no baggage and a good team round him could help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 30, 2012, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 08:52:11 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 01:31:36 AM
Hot off the press lads, i know yous were wondering but The mighty Endas won the JHC v Cushendun today.. hard luck Dunloy....gave it some rattle for sure.

Well done big man, some shock in fairness and well deserved, maybe this will spur ya's on to get out of that div and push on. Hard work starts now. Maybe a new manager with no baggage and a good team round him could help.
Jeez could you make it any more obvious? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 09:14:58 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 30, 2012, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 08:52:11 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 01:31:36 AM
Hot off the press lads, i know yous were wondering but The mighty Endas won the JHC v Cushendun today.. hard luck Dunloy....gave it some rattle for sure.

Well done big man, some shock in fairness and well deserved, maybe this will spur ya's on to get out of that div and push on. Hard work starts now. Maybe a new manager with no baggage and a good team round him could help.
Jeez could you make it any more obvious? ;)

No not me, not interested in it for a while. Can be a real pain but they have a few good kids coming through. Massive push for Ulster, at Junior level its difficult for the Antrim teams to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 30, 2012, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 30, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
The power of social media -

@liamwatson5 o yes county final to nite waaaat ??? ok we won and am not finished yet mushy ha ha # upthefuckinshamrocks#3inarow # party

@liamwatson5 #helicopter# longwayfromclaire # longwayfromhome # davymoney
I just can't help feelin sorry for the lad ??? Not right in the head.

Who's Claire? She'd do wise to stay clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 10:07:09 AM
It's great waking up with no hangover, ready for another celebratory session.   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 11:49:43 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 30, 2012, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 30, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 30, 2012, 07:19:16 AM
The power of social media -

@liamwatson5 o yes county final to nite waaaat ??? ok we won and am not finished yet mushy ha ha # upthefuckinshamrocks#3inarow # party

@liamwatson5 #helicopter# longwayfromclaire # longwayfromhome # davymoney
I just can't help feelin sorry for the lad ??? Not right in the head.

Who's Claire? She'd do wise to stay clear.

you could argue he is drunk, but he is some tool. he wasn't posting much in the build up to match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 12:35:26 PM
Some player all the same. 32 points in the two biggest games of his life. Not another Antrim Hurler has came close to that. Love him or hate him, he has to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Well number 3 in a row against the old rivals to put us at 18,  it's a pretty sweet feeling!!!    I think the fear of loosing to one and other was as much to blame as the flood lights.   Tense affair,   Not running dunloy down one bit when I say that they brought loughgiel down to there level,   I feel this would of been there tactics going into it,  close tight game that was never free flowing and was never going to be.  Can hand on heart say I mean this,   Hard luck dunloy.   Use have proved me wrong all year.   Shows that workrate takes you far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2012, 01:34:32 PM
As for the social network ;D man is mad as f**k.    But he's our boy!!!!  Some operator!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
Disappointed is an understatement. We lost the game ourselves. Shot 16 wides, had more chances but it wasn't to be. Fair play to lgiel they took their scores and won because of it.

As for that planks twitter comments well it sums him up well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Lads, how about not running down people on message boards? I've done it myself and realised the futility of it. If you have a problem with someone say it to his face. It's easy to be a big man behind a keyboard or a phone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
Lads a great hurler, one of the nest ive seen. Wish he would act with an ounce of dignity instead of posting nonsense on twitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:13:47 PM
Unfollow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Lads, how about not running down people on message boards? I've done it myself and realised the futility of it. If you have a problem with someone say it to his face. It's easy to be a big man behind a keyboard or a phone.

I'd say there has been a right few lads that have said what they think to his face over the years, but sure no one died
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2012, 03:22:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Lads, how about not running down people on message boards? I've done it myself and realised the futility of it. If you have a problem with someone say it to his face. It's easy to be a big man behind a keyboard or a phone.

Classic case of bringing it on himself SIE. Lgs hurling hero is not wise. Doesn't bother youse and critically it doesn't bother him


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Lads, how about not running down people on message boards? I've done it myself and realised the futility of it. If you have a problem with someone say it to his face. It's easy to be a big man behind a keyboard or a phone.

no one said anything about him to that tripe was posted by minder, you didn't seem to have a problem with that. If that stuff appears on this board then he and the person that posted is getting both barrells from me. complete and utter tools the both of them. as for hiding behind a keyboard well he couldn't enjoy his win with some dignity without being insulting on a keyboard.  Don't embarrass yourself by defending clowns like him and minder. its people like them is the reason why LG still don't get the respect they deserve after their achievements this last three years. things have been civilized on here since the match ended but minder has dragged it into the gutter again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
Well then your gripe is with winker and minder, not me. Seek them out and have your conversation with them.

I defended no one. I unfollowed Liam months ago, for obvious reasons.

we ask for no respect from anyone, especially prejudiced posters on this board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2012, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
Well then your gripe is with winker and minder, not me. Seek them out and have your conversation with them.

I defended no one. I unfollowed Liam months ago, for obvious reasons.

we ask for no respect from anyone, especially prejudiced posters on this board.

Have I missed something, is it a private Twitter account?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
No idea. I here there was a late night in the bridge last night, perhaps a few hangovers are kicking in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 30, 2012, 03:22:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 02:59:26 PM
Lads, how about not running down people on message boards? I've done it myself and realised the futility of it. If you have a problem with someone say it to his face. It's easy to be a big man behind a keyboard or a phone.

Classic case of bringing it on himself SIE. Lgs hurling hero is not wise. Doesn't bother youse and critically it doesn't bother him
there's always one skull. Just happens he can be the best in Ireland when he turns it on. It isn't brain surgery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 03:46:12 PM
yes galway goal,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
make that two
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
Class game now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 03:55:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
Class game now

kilkenny on top now, galway giving the ball away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
Crucially kk are all sticking to their positions this game. Different class.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
Crucially kk are all sticking to their positions this game. Different class.

on top of them all over field. the backs coming out with everything. galway need to try scores further out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 04:05:30 PM
hit the ball first time and it would have been another goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 04:05:30 PM
hit the ball first time and it would have been another goal

galway have hurl a bit in first ten min. 2nd half or its over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 04:10:24 PM
That was some intensity by Kilkenny, Galway have hurled none, if they have anything left in the tank they could make a game of it. If Kilkenny keep going it will be a ten point loss.

Some tempo from Kilkenny after the two Galway goals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Kilkenny playing really well. Want Galway to win but the cats look good at the min
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
It's a simple game. Keep your shape, win the game. ;D

I hope Galway come out all guns blazing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
skehill going off holding his arm, surely their sub goalie isn't that bad they cant put him on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 04:22:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
It's a simple game. Keep your shape, win the game. ;D

I hope Galway come out all guns blazing.

That's tactical from Galway, playing the extra man outfield and Kilkenny have the extra defender, it's about making the space outfield and taking the long range scores
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 04:22:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
It's a simple game. Keep your shape, win the game. ;D

I hope Galway come out all guns blazing.

That's tactical from Galway, playing the extra man outfield and Kilkenny have the extra defender, it's about making the space outfield and taking the long range scores

ah jayus ref play advantage,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:32:12 PM
Exactly nah, the ref has to be seen, for the sake of being seen. Typical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
Sure get yourself on Telly ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
thats it ruined. kelly seen that but he wouldnt see tommy breaking his stick on someones legs. game over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:38:33 PM
Usual story, Henry is unbookable apparently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
Not that they need it but the refs are soft on KK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:41:37 PM
Galway have to go for broke. Take the man out of defence and put him forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 04:42:24 PM
fizz out of the game now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 04:48:34 PM
9 all Irelands for the unbookable one. Class hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 05:10:18 PM

Why do they not win more club titles?

agh aye, Loughgiel.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2012, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 05:10:18 PM

Why do they not win more club titles?

agh aye, Loughgiel.   ;)

hmmmmmm think you might find KK have 10 club titles Ballyhale (5) James stephens (3) Glenmore & St Martins :-)

btw well done to the Shams, 3 in a row and now 18 all together.

hard luck Dunloy. worked like dogs and mebbe coulda/shoulda but .........

Crap match but result all that matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2012, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 05:10:18 PM

Why do they not win more club titles?

agh aye, Loughgiel.   ;)

hmmmmmm think you might find KK have 10 club titles Ballyhale (5) James stephens (3) Glenmore & St Martins :-)

btw well done to the Shams, 3 in a row and now 18 all together.

hard luck Dunloy. worked like dogs and mebbe coulda/shoulda but .........

Crap match but result all that matters.

if we had brought our shooting boots would have won no probs but we didnt so LG desreved it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 05:56:57 PM
Just a joke b+a. But I must say it's nice to be top. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 30, 2012, 06:03:30 PM
Anybody hear anything about the hurling leagues being restructured next year - Rossa and glenariff going into Div1 and the top 4 in Div3 going into Div2????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 05:10:18 PM

Why do they not win more club titles?

agh aye, Loughgiel.   ;)

I was at the last semi yous played a team from Kilkenny, they went on to get dicked in the final. Galway championship no doubt will be well watched from now on in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
Aye, what happened the kk champs last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2012, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
Aye, what happened the kk champs last year?

Oulart beat James Stephens, who had only a week to prepare after their replay in the KK final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 06:53:32 PM
They were beat then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:03:32 PM
Just been told by a Dunloy officianardo, "you's beat a team of weans".

he's just got the reply he deserves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
I don't care hs, they know who I am. Sitting here right beside them.big men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2012, 07:14:13 PM
Hmm, I think you could be pished.

Anyway, you are coming across as a cocky t**t. Loughgiel played pure bollix last night and have a lot of work to do as they will meet much tougher tests as they try to retain the AI. Slabbering about KK teams is not the wisest move IMO but hey, good luck.
it was a genuine question with a wee bit of humour in it. sorry,.I forgot you hate us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
I don't care hs, they know who I am. Sitting here right beside them.big men.

The chances are if your sitting beside them and your half cut they are winding you up. it could be worse if we would have popped over half our frees and a couple of scores you would be getting worse than that.

I'm with HS to on last night, LG boys on here saying we where only in 2nd gear(wtf does that mean) if there was only two points in it with 2 minutes to go what where you doing in 2nd. my view is youse where in top gear(I don't know if that's 5th or 6th I'm not familiar with loughgeil transmissions). bottom line is you need watson to hit top form again and get more space than he got last night. Like him or hate him there will be no cups without him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 30, 2012, 08:05:47 PM
Well if LG don't win cups,there's a poor chance of any other Antrim team winning any.The team that won the All- Ireland would have beaten Dunloy last night by about 20 pts. Antrim finals are always close ,scrappy affairs,it's where we go afterwards that matter.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 30, 2012, 08:05:47 PM
Well if LG don't win cups,there's a poor chance of any other Antrim team winning any.The team that won the All- Ireland would have beaten Dunloy last night by about 20 pts. Antrim finals are always close ,scrappy affairs,it's where we go afterwards that matter.

Sorry I thought that was the team that won the all Ireland. who didn't start. Imm replying to SIE anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
I don't care hs, they know who I am. Sitting here right beside them.big men.

The chances are if your sitting beside them and your half cut they are winding you up. it could be worse if we would have popped over half our frees and a couple of scores you would be getting worse than that.

I'm with HS to on last night, LG boys on here saying we where only in 2nd gear(wtf does that mean) if there was only two points in it with 2 minutes to go what where you doing in 2nd. my view is youse where in top gear(I don't know if that's 5th or 6th I'm not familiar with loughgeil transmissions). bottom line is you need watson to hit top form again and get more space than he got last night. Like him or hate him there will be no cups without him
so basically you agree with me. You have to play him.

Mushy is a gentleman btw, I have loads of respect for him. and I've said all year that Dunloy would be the team to beat.

But sure, what do I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 08:40:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 07:09:27 PM
I don't care hs, they know who I am. Sitting here right beside them.big men.

The chances are if your sitting beside them and your half cut they are winding you up. it could be worse if we would have popped over half our frees and a couple of scores you would be getting worse than that.

I'm with HS to on last night, LG boys on here saying we where only in 2nd gear(wtf does that mean) if there was only two points in it with 2 minutes to go what where you doing in 2nd. my view is youse where in top gear(I don't know if that's 5th or 6th I'm not familiar with loughgeil transmissions). bottom line is you need watson to hit top form again and get more space than he got last night. Like him or hate him there will be no cups without him
so basically you agree with me. You have to play him.

Mushy is a gentleman btw, I have loads of respect for him. and I've said all year that Dunloy would be the team to beat.

But sure, what do I know.

In fairness you did say dunloy from the start when some of your brethren where saying we are finished. Anyway good luck in your all Ireland campaign and remember if you have pop at dunloy ill be here to put you in your box.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2012, 09:43:56 PM
I wouldn't want it any other way nah. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2012, 10:30:41 AM
PP prices are a good bit out.  No way are Dunloy 9/4 shots.

Would have Loughgiel as favourites but not by that much.

If Loughgiel can stop Dunloy bagging a few goals I fancy us to win with a few points to spare.  I think we have a better all round scoring threat and unless their FF line bags a few I think we should be OK.

That said its a derby, Dunloy are no doubt a very hungry team and Loughgiel undoubetdly under more pressure to deliver.  If we don't match Dubloys hunger in the middle third we could be in bother.  Hopefully our stronger bench (in my opinion) can get us over the line.

Loughgiel by 4 points.

This is going to be a brutal day at work.  3 sausage rolls in me already and I'm still nowhere near good form.

Match went as I expected, LG just doing enough to keep Dunloy at arms length.  Fair play to Dunloy. their work rate and tackling was exceptional at times and really bottled up the LG forwards. 

Its easy to say that if Dunloy would of taken their chances they would of won the game, I think had they scored a few more Loughgiel were capable of finding a few at the other end as well. LG never allowed Dunloy to get a real run at them, the goal just after Dunloys was crucial in this regard.

Tony McCloskey was my MOTM, got through a power of work.  Other notable performances for us were from Eddie McCloskey, Skinner, Winker and Shay Casey.

The first 45 minutes were as shaky as I have seen our back line especially under high balls but they were not punished.  Surprised we never made any changes in the backs or MF where Barney ran out of gas a wee bit but it paid of in the end. Only worry is that against more clinical opposition we leave it too late to make changes.  The one player we took off scored 1-2 and always looked to be a threat, thought there could of been a few others off before him. (Note:  Seamus Dobbin contributed well when he came on)

All in all a good win although not a high scoring affair.  Fully expect the shackles to come off now with an easy win over the Armagh champs and an Ulster final to look forward to.

Great crowd at the game and a collosal Dunloy support.  Wouldn't however be in favour of an evening game for the final going forward.  Prefer the game played in natural light.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2012, 11:52:20 AM
^ Although if we only conceded 1-7 in every game I'd be a happy man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
Let me get this straight, the lights meant that both teams were shite?

That Loughgiel were only in 2nd gear?

Dunloy could have won it had they taken their chances?

Garret never added on the extra minutes at the end due to the extra time the Loughgiel players went down during the match

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
Let me get this straight, the lights meant that both teams were shite?  No

That Loughgiel were only in 2nd gear?  No

Dunloy could have won it had they taken their chances?  Yes, possibly.

Garret never added on the extra minutes at the end due to the extra time the Loughgiel players went down during the match.  Thought Duffy had a good game, can't see either set of supporters having any major gripes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
Let me get this straight, the lights meant that both teams were shite?  No

That Loughgiel were only in 2nd gear?  No

Dunloy could have won it had they taken their chances?  Yes, possibly.

Garret never added on the extra minutes at the end due to the extra time the Loughgiel players went down during the match.  Thought Duffy had a good game, can't see either set of supporters having any major gripes.

I asked these questions because I wasn't the match and these were the things lads were using as excuses or how the match went
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2012, 01:40:44 PM
Personally I hope that's the last ever final under the lights. Both sets of players lost the ball in the lights. It's harder to catch a ball in those lights. It's ok if it's going route one but cross field at height and it gets lost in the lights.
Great crowd at the game. Nice also from a few lgiel fans on the pitch offering hard lucks to us as we left the field at the end.
Out young lads done really well this year esp young niky mc Keague in nets who at 18 had never done nets before until we lost our regular keeper at the start of the season.
Roll on next year!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 01, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
yeah lights didn't help anyone, better using the daylight.  game was tense but dunloy missed some shocking chances, very unlike paddy richmond.  have to take my hat off to the dunloy panel as they improved greatly throughout the year.  if they keep this goin who knows.

Shams out infront now, fair play.  timed their run to perfection this past years for there have been better championship winning teams

think the true test will come against galway winners, can't wait.

hope they strike another blow of antrim hurling

Galway fell away badly after the silly pull by Cyril.  sooner cats are dethroned the better, they are super, but aren't currently helping hurling to a degree

what happened the dub minors, couldn't watch it was that bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 01, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
yeah lights didn't help anyone, better using the daylight.  game was tense but dunloy missed some shocking chances, very unlike paddy richmond.  have to take my hat off to the dunloy panel as they improved greatly throughout the year.  if they keep this goin who knows.

Shams out infront now, fair play.  timed their run to perfection this past years for there have been better championship winning teams

think the true test will come against galway winners, can't wait.

hope they strike another blow of antrim hurling

Galway fell away badly after the silly pull by Cyril.  sooner cats are dethroned the better, they are super, but aren't currently helping hurling to a degree

what happened the dub minors, couldn't watch it was that bad
Dubs have been punching above their weight, this was always on the cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 01, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 01, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
yeah lights didn't help anyone, better using the daylight.  game was tense but dunloy missed some shocking chances, very unlike paddy richmond.  have to take my hat off to the dunloy panel as they improved greatly throughout the year.  if they keep this goin who knows.

Shams out infront now, fair play.  timed their run to perfection this past years for there have been better championship winning teams

think the true test will come against galway winners, can't wait.

hope they strike another blow of antrim hurling

Galway fell away badly after the silly pull by Cyril.  sooner cats are dethroned the better, they are super, but aren't currently helping hurling to a degree

what happened the dub minors, couldn't watch it was that bad
Dubs have been punching above their weight, this was always on the cards.

completely  agree, Clare where beating them hands down in the semi's and they conceded two very soft goals at the death. tipp showed up the first day thinking it was a formality but they made amends yesterday, a joy to watch

As for Cyril, Delaney was holding his stick the whole match and he reacted badly. That's the thing about Kilkenny they are masters of the dark arts as well. You cant take away from there achievement's though. I feel for Galway after the ref blew instead of playing advantage for the goal the whole match blew up in there face.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 01, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
Just getting to the board after weekend!

My good god saffron89 did u just say that Kilkenny are doing nothing for hurling! They are the best team hurling has ever had! It's up to the rest to raise their game! In fairness Galway have don't that but the cats are worthy champions.

As for the county final dunloy will obviously rue their wides but loughiel are also worthy champions. I don't accept this "still in 2nd gear" nonsense. It's a county - no team has ever been doing anything but their flat out best. If they are not hitting the levels of st Patricks day it's not because they are holding back that's an absurd suggestion.

Watson's personality and tweeting is obviously poor but that's him he's not the first and won't be the last.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 01, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
Highlights of the final on now AFAIK at 8.30 as part of the TG4 GAA 2012 highlights show
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 01, 2012, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 01, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
Just getting to the board after weekend!

My good god saffron89 did u just say that Kilkenny are doing nothing for hurling! They are the best team hurling has ever had! It's up to the rest to raise their game! In fairness Galway have don't that but the cats are worthy champions.



yeah they are off course the greatest ever, but the nature of sport means you are inclined to like them less the more successful they are, they have won too much and their dominance at present is not healthy for gaa, but they have raised standards.  no doubt

would accept it better if they were less into the dark arts as certain posters have said, referees let them away with too much. Cody is hard to listen to.  only pleasant time was when he ate the face of Marty Morrissey, though by the look of marty's face it wasn't the first time someone was eating at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 01, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
One more thing - bog ball might be fine under lights but its not for hurling.
Seen evidence time and time again it affects first touch and shooting. Only played a few games myself and thought it was just me (no smart comments!) but since I am convinced from watching all levels that hurling is not the same under lights.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 12:21:47 AM
I dont blame the floodlights at all.  It was a tight nervy game, someone very close at the time said that are boys were more nervous running out on the pitch than they were paddys day. That's what Dunloy and Loughgiel do to each other. Fear of loosing.Both played few years back on a wed night, and other than for dunloys filth that night, it was a cracking game of hurling!       It might not have been a great game on sat,  But as an old man said few years back, Better to play bad and win than play great and be beat.   Am quite happy with the win no matter what anyone say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
Posting about filthy Dunloy 2 days after your centre half forward spat in the face of his opponent when offered the hand at the end of the game. 

Par for the course from the likes of you I suppose.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2012, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
Posting about filthy Dunloy 2 days after your centre half forward spat in the face of his opponent when offered the hand at the end of the game. 

Par for the course from the likes of you I suppose.

That must have been Skinner then ? What a tr**p.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2012, 09:14:09 AM
It was. Lowest of the low. Heard about it at the end of the game and couldn't believe someone would do that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
Was this incident 2yrs ago or after the final on satuday?

Either way its beyond contempt if true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
Was this incident 2yrs ago or after the final on satuday?

Either way its beyond contempt if true.
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
WTF?

2 years ago?

It was after the final on Saturday past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 10:58:02 AM
You would consider it more acceptable if it was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
Pretty clear I was talking about the last game they played under floodlight.  I can honestly say I did not see or here anything about this.   If it happened it is a joke!     There is no way of standing up for  a lad that spits on someone,   Am not trying to do so, skinners hatred for dunloy goes back to minor. Where he played a minor final soon after his father passed.   A few nice things said to him that day.   Again am not standing up for spitting.    And to call someone a tr**p on here.   Real classy act!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
Pretty clear I was talking about the last game they played under floodlight.  I can honestly say I did not see or here anything about this.   If it happened it is a joke!     There is no way of standing up for  a lad that spits on someone,   Am not trying to do so, skinners hatred for dunloy goes back to minor. Where he played a minor final soon after his father passed.   A few nice things said to him that day.   Again am not standing up for spitting.    And to call someone a tr**p on here.   Real classy act!!!

How else would you describe someone who does such a thing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
NAG your loving this.   If it was the other way around you wouldn't give two flyin fucks about it.  Your the one that calls for no names and standing up against miscalling lads in the past.  But fine to call names when you deem right?!   If it happened.  It's not right.  What else can I say? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
An all ireland hurling legend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
NAG your loving this.   If it was the other way around you wouldn't give two flyin f**ks about it.  Your the one that calls for no names and standing up against miscalling lads in the past.  But fine to call names when you deem right?!   If it happened.  It's not right.  What else can I say?

Im not loving any of it believe me would have been much better for everyone for this game to have passed off without incident the way it more or less did up to that point IMO. But I will be perfectly honest here now and give you the straight bat, Loughgiel ones wonder why everyone seems to be against them (maybe you dont care and maybe you do, neither here nor there) but the simple fact there is a way to win things and there is a way to lose things and I am afraid that your club, supporters and players have not discovered the knack for either as of yet.

I think you will see that the first mention of it mentioned a position and not a name.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
Personally it would not affect my opinion of any of the other lgiel players whom are all decent as hell. I have a respect for lgiel as a hurling club for what they do, I don't like them or ever want them to win tho!! Lol it's my right as your rival!!! ;)
That said I still think they do so much hurling work in Antrim in producing players and I have always respected that.
I will never respect any man for what he did on sat night. Hard hitting tackles, no bother, part of tr game but that was awful at the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to put your point across, eh nag1?

if the incident did happen then it's a disgrace. No matter what has went down previously, there's no excuse for spitting in someone's face, disgusting. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
Nothing like a sweeping generalisation to put your point across, eh nag1?

if the incident did happen then it's a disgrace. No matter what has went down previously, there's no excuse for spitting in someone's face, disgusting.

Having read it back I was going to change that tbh SIE as I know that was a bit sweeping and does not apply to all. But the general point stands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 12:07:33 PM
A disgusting act that was totally in character of the individual who carried it out. These type of individuals when held up as heros and role models is not good for the communities they exist in regardless of where they are from. The lowest common denominator love them though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 12:13:33 PM
Ok it's fair to say that if it happened then the person who carried it out is not dealing with a full deck. We can't be generalising all the time, it's bad enough us McCooeys are known as chip eaters FFS :o

Portaferry won't be putting up much of a fight I'd imagine, wouldn't mind, for a change to see the game played in McKenna Park or even Newry but I doubt that the powers in Casement will let this happen. Loughgiel should hurl a lot more freely now with the worry of losing to Dunloy is gone. Lets see what a good hard winters training will deliver in Feb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
Posting about filthy Dunloy 2 days after your centre half forward spat in the face of his opponent when offered the hand at the end of the game. 

Par for the course from the likes of you I suppose.
[/color]What's this mean??   I did say there was no way of standing up for it and if it happened it's a joke!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 12:19:31 PM
Well lads, just heard that the whole spitting scenario might not be all it seems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 12:25:51 PM
If the spitting incident did happen then its a disgrace and no reflection on the other members of the team who have a lot of respect for Dunloy club and players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 12:19:31 PM
Well lads, just heard that the whole spitting scenario might not be all it seems.

Suppose the wind caught it SIE? Justification and excuses being found it seems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 12:19:31 PM
Well lads, just heard that the whole spitting scenario might not be all it seems.

Suppose the wind caught it SIE? Justification and excuses being found it seems
the wind didn't catch it as it didn't happen. There was a phone call yesterday from an individual in Dunloy to an individual in Loughgiel to say he made it up. perhaps you should do some more phoning about to find out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 12:57:39 PM
The person it happened to has an impecible character. Could you help me understand what would make such a person make something like that up?

I'm not buying that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
And that reason is ?

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
And that reason is ?

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.

Well the lads are disputing that it happened now and I am sure they are a lot closer to it than me, so among them be it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
And that reason is ?

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.

Well the lads are disputing that it happened now and I am sure they are a lot closer to it than me, so among them be it.

We played a game against Glenarriff years ago at the Dub and one of our lads did the same thing. Now at the time we didn't know and there was a fair bit of digging going on. It was only after the game finished that we found out, was raging with him as I got involved in defending him during the row.

It's bad craic, that lad doesn't play for us anymore and I hope he has wised up from it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onion Bag on October 02, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
SENT YOU A PM MILLTOWN ROW2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 02, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
And that reason is ?

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.

Well the lads are disputing that it happened now and I am sure they are a lot closer to it than me, so among them be it.

We played a game against Glenarriff years ago at the Dub and one of our lads did the same thing. Now at the time we didn't know and there was a fair bit of digging going on. It was only after the game finished that we found out, was raging with him as I got involved in defending him during the row.

It's bad craic, that lad doesn't play for us anymore and I hope he has wised up from it

I thought that's just the way you McCooey boys talked, slabbers flying everywhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 02, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
SENT YOU A PM MILLTOWN ROW2

Aye only got it Onion!! Never noticed ffs. Aye same lad, we would have a couple of blow ins who'd moved to Belfast and pick our club. Don't think he got a look in, but most lads don't. Pollock the only lad from another previous club on the team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 02, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2012, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 01:03:25 PM
The other bit I don't get is why was there not a killing session after this? You wouldn't just walk on after some hoor spat in yer face.

I had thought the same myself.  I would of thought it would of started a fair old row but I didn't see any trouble on the field after the game.
And that reason is ?

There is a reason that it didnt as well.

Seems to be a lot of phone calls floating about that neck of the woods over the past while.

Well the lads are disputing that it happened now and I am sure they are a lot closer to it than me, so among them be it.

We played a game against Glenarriff years ago at the Dub and one of our lads did the same thing. Now at the time we didn't know and there was a fair bit of digging going on. It was only after the game finished that we found out, was raging with him as I got involved in defending him during the row.

It's bad craic, that lad doesn't play for us anymore and I hope he has wised up from it

I thought that's just the way you McCooey boys talked, slabbers flying everywhere.

Stop generalising now, we could have a separate thread on that ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2012, 02:59:35 PM
Just checked county website - so thats a league decider Loughiel Vs Cushendall on Saturday?
Gotta fancy the Shamrocks given the fact that their season is still going - perhaps the Dall might be seeking to make up any bad blood?
With all our attention on the county final it hasnt really been noticed.

Are Ballygalget relegated JC?

HS- do you expect your lads to complete a procession Vs Carey Faughs or is there life in this game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Not many on here now to hold hands up for calling names and giving a fella a good going over. Given the fact that the phone call did happen and indeed the dunloy lad was talking shite!!   Like alot on here.   Mad to get jumping in and giving a lad grief
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2012, 03:58:24 PM
If it was a load of tosh then I would take back any critisim of the lad.
I don't know this phone call you speak of sg so I can't say if its true or not.
People get angry, make rash decisions and then have to deal with what they have sown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 04:01:19 PM
So let me get this right.......the spitting incident was a fabricated story? 

If this is true then that's a bit of a dent to the 'impeccabe character' of the individual involved. 

I hadn't heard about the spitting incident (real or fabricated) until I read it on here this morning. No doubt the truth will come to light in due course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2012, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 02, 2012, 04:01:19 PM
So let me get this right.......the spitting incident was a fabricated story? 

If this is true then that's a bit of a dent to the 'impeccabe character' of the individual involved. 

I hadn't heard about the spitting incident (real or fabricated) until I read it on here this morning. No doubt the truth will come to light in due course.

If this is how it turns out them I'm glad it has been dealt with by the people concerned and I apologise for spreading the falsity. I hadnt intended to be the one to bring it up only to be prompted by SG spouting about "the filth from Dunloy". I shouldnt have taken the bait

To be wise you must first be young and stupid ........... is the only way I can understand how this happened because a more decent individual you will not meet. I hope this is a big learning experience for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 02, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
Apologies in writing from each of you.  I'll see to it that they are hand delivered to skinner.  My man of the match and the first man i'd have beside me if I was going in to battle. An absolute disgrace that some of you have hung drawn and quartered him on here on the back of a lie. Shame on you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 02, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
So somebody made up that he was spat on?

An even bigger WTF?

Yeah but its ok, he's young and from Dunloy.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 02, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 02, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
the first man i'd have beside me if I was going in to battle.

aye if you and him are sneakin up behind the oposition. he's a dirty bastard so no surprisethat any story about him is beleivable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 02, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 02, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
the first man i'd have beside me if I was going in to battle.

aye if you and him are sneakin up behind the oposition. he's a dirty b**tard so no surprisethat any story about him is beleivable.

Ok move along ffs, this is tiresome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 02, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 02, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
the first man i'd have beside me if I was going in to battle.

aye if you and him are sneakin up behind the oposition. he's a dirty b**tard so no surprisethat any story about him is beleivable.
Blackandamber your a brave man slabbering on here calling anyone that.    Great chance you never hurled in your life.   Wouldnt have the f**king balls to take to the field!!   Slabber!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Folks the players have sorted it themselves and there was nothing in this story.

We should do the same.

Roll on Sats game. Hopefully it's a good one as I'm for heading over to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Folks the players have sorted it themselves and there was nothing in this story.

We should do the same.

Roll on Sats game. Hopefully it's a good one as I'm for heading over to it.
As far as I know we'll have a full contingent to pick from. I'd think it'll be something similar to last years game. So, batten down the hatches!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 02, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2012, 02:59:35 PM
Just checked county website - so thats a league decider Loughiel Vs Cushendall on Saturday?
Gotta fancy the Shamrocks given the fact that their season is still going - perhaps the Dall might be seeking to make up any bad blood?
With all our attention on the county final it hasnt really been noticed.

Are Ballygalget relegated JC?

HS- do you expect your lads to complete a procession Vs Carey Faughs or is there life in this game?


well not yet officially.


We're up in ballycastle this weekend and need a win which is hard to see.

According to a cran man i was talking to on Saturday st johns didn't want to play them last weekend even  though the crans were desperate for a game before the championship and he's alleging that the johnnies even managed to get our game vrs portaferry as they believed the ports would have put out a reserve team and that would have been an unfair advantage to us. I'd be disgusted in the antrim ccc if the latter part was true.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Folks the players have sorted it themselves and there was nothing in this story.

We should do the same.

Roll on Sats game. Hopefully it's a good one as I'm for heading over to it.
As far as I know we'll have a full contingent to pick from. I'd think it'll be something similar to last years game. So, batten down the hatches!  ;)
Excellent!! Lol
That's what hurlings all about!! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
I think it's safe to make a prediction that a sharper match fit loughiel will beat a stale dall - which will lead to the red card being produced in the closing stages as some bad blood boils!

Interesting point Johnny cool and I know the johnnies have been no strangers to pulling strings behind the scenes with the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on October 03, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
as far as im aware te antrim conty board call off ports v galgets as if ports played  week side would nt be fair on other teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: the waffler on October 03, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
as far as im aware te antrim conty board call off ports v galgets as if ports played  week side would nt be fair on other teams

Who played weaker teams last week in the All county leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 03, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Surely not MR2! A club played a weakened side in a league game! No way! Would never happen at st galls would it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178555

All Star hurling nominees revealed

Goalkeepers: Anthony Nash (Cork), Nickie Quaid (Limerick), James Skehill (Galway).

Full Backs: Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), JJ Delaney (Kilkenny), Johnny Coen (Galway), Fergal Moore (Galway), Jackie Tyrell (Kilkenny), Richie McCarthy (Limerick), Michael Cahill (Tipperary), Kevin Hynes (Galway), Shane O'Neill (Cork).

Half backs: Brian Hogan (Kilkenny), Brendan Bugler (Clare), Padraic Maher (Tipperary), David Collins (Galway), Michael Walsh (Waterford), Tony Óg Regan (Galway), Tommy Walsh (Kilkenny), Niall Donoghue (Galway), Kieran Joyce (Kilkenny).

Midfielders: Andy Smith (Galway), Kevin Moran (Waterford), Stephen Molumphy (Waterford), Pa Cronin (Cork), Iarla Tannian (Galway), Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny).

Half Forwards: Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny), Cyril Donnellan (Galway), Niall Burke (Galway), Patrick Bonnar Maher (Tipperary), TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Pa Burke (Tipperary), Damien Hayes (Galway), Danny Sutcliffe (Dublin), Richie Power (Kilkenny).

Full forwards: Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), Joe Canning (Galway), Noel McGrath (Tipperary), Patrick Horgan (Cork), John Mullane (Waterford), Brian O'Meara (Tipperary), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), John Conlon (Clare), David Burke (Galway).

The final team of 15 players will be announced live on RTÉ television on Friday October 26.

Nominations for Hurler of the Year: Henry Shefflin (Kilkenny); Paul Murphy (Kilkenny); Joe Canning (Galway)

Nominations for Young Hurler of the Year: Johnny Coen (Galway); Niall Burke (Galway); Danny Sutcliffe (Dublin)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
Liam who?

I see the paper mentions the new manager trying to convince hippy donnelly to come back?
I would have thought he would be back without any problems given a new set-up is in place?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 03, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Surely not MR2! A club played a weakened side in a league game! No way! Would never happen at st galls would it?

Never, well none that I was involved in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 04, 2012, 01:13:34 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?
they base the nominations on county hurling, not the club games. he didnt warrent a mention at county level this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 04, 2012, 01:13:34 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?
they base the nominations on county hurling, not the club games. he didnt warrent a mention at county level this year.

I thought that but was'nt sure. Is that the rule for there was talk about him gettin nomanated after the all ireland club s/f and f?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 03, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Surely not MR2! A club played a weakened side in a league game! No way! Would never happen at st galls would it?

Never, well none that I was involved in

So which is it?
- No, never
OR
- Yes, but I wasnt invovled.

In truth I suspect all teams have been guilty at some stage.
Some deliberately, and other becasue they genuinely couldnt get players our for meaningless fixtures.
Its unfortuante that this can affect league ups/downs but I'm not sure anything can be done about it - its the same in any sport's leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 02:07:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 03, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Surely not MR2! A club played a weakened side in a league game! No way! Would never happen at st galls would it?

Never, well none that I was involved in

So which is it?
- No, never
OR
- Yes, but I wasnt invovled.

In truth I suspect all teams have been guilty at some stage.
Some deliberately, and other becasue they genuinely couldnt get players our for meaningless fixtures.
Its unfortuante that this can affect league ups/downs but I'm not sure anything can be done about it - its the same in any sport's leagues.

No, never with any games I was involved in/with, played in or managed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 04, 2012, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?

I think weve had enough token nominations over the past few years!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 04, 2012, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?

I think weve had enough token nominations over the past few years!!

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2012, 02:53:46 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?

Based on Inter County games - no way.  Antrim were brutal this year and Liam didn't do much.

If club performances were taken into account then he should get an All Star.  3-23 in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final combined would take some topping.

Don't see any Antrim All Stars for the next decade...probably more.  We need to get to a semi-final and put up a good showing for that to happen.  Seems a long way away at present and we haven't exactly been puling up trees at U21 level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 04, 2012, 06:23:25 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2012, 02:53:46 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 04, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
No L Watson.

What does evryone think of that?

Based on Inter County games - no way.  Antrim were brutal this year and Liam didn't do much.

If club performances were taken into account then he should get an All Star.  3-23 in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final combined would take some topping.

Don't see any Antrim All Stars for the next decade...probably more.  We need to get to a semi-final and put up a good showing for that to happen.  Seems a long way away at present and we haven't exactly been puling up trees at U21 level.

A bit of talk elsewhere re Jamie Clarke (Armagh) getting a football nomination. Could be argued Watson did as much as him county wise?! Maybe not though.

Agree that it appears to be intercounty (anywhere the guidelines set out) but Watson's semi and final performances were pretty special.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 07:36:11 PM
Please stop this debate!

If club performances were considered what about the lad who played so well in that mid tipp junior B game?

All-stars are on the basis of county hurling - for one thing club hurling would never be considered for such expenditure that's only for our "elite".

Only liam Watson & his merry band would generate this discussion because a player was quite simply not good enough on the county scene.

Hopefully his loughiel performances start to regain February and march levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
 ::)

I see Antrim have drawn Westmeath in the preliminary round of the Leinster championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2012, 10:22:32 PM
Fully expect Antrim to be in leinster semi final this year :o.   There!!!!  I said it!!    Should need no more than to look at last years shambles against WM.   Nice enough draw for the new gaffer. Heads down and a decent year is there to be had.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2012, 10:22:32 PM
Fully expect Antrim to be in leinster semi final this year :o.   There!!!!  I said it!!    Should need no more than to look at last years shambles against WM.   Nice enough draw for the new gaffer. Heads down and a decent year is there to be had.

Though It's difficult to do when one of the teams are concentrating on All Ireland runs :o

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
Not a bad thing from my point of view either MR2.   Tho have to get through ulster semi and final 1st
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
Not a bad thing from my point of view either MR2.   Tho have to get through ulster semi and final 1st

We'd beat the Armagh team FFS!! Ports, should they the Derry winners should be handy enough. But yes from a selfish point of view I understand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2012, 11:01:39 PM
Is the Leinster hurling championship openly seeded - or just fixed?

Weaker counties always play off in early rounds - and Kilkenny & Galway kept apart.
Same every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Antrim draw Westmeath then winners play Laois! Winners of Antrim/Westmeath/ Laois play Carlow or London
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Did anyone know anything about that focus group chaired by Nelson?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 04, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Did anyone know anything about that focus group chaired by Nelson?

Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 04, 2012, 11:32:09 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 04, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Did anyone know anything about that focus group chaired by Nelson?

Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses.

That's the group that will want to do away with div boards, me thinks. As I had said the other day(the div boards may be no longer). Work was underway to solve the problem had by 1 of the div boards, to answer your question skull I had heard something was going on?? But dunno exactly what
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 05, 2012, 09:13:47 AM

"Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses".

Bit harsh that comment. Some of those guys on that forum have dedicated their lives to hurling promotion either at club or county level. Surely its a brainstorming focus group that hopefully will point things towards a better hurling foundation across the county.

I`d go as far as to say none of them would submit a mileage claim for the like of this. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 05, 2012, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 05, 2012, 09:13:47 AM

"Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses".

Bit harsh that comment. Some of those guys on that forum have dedicated their lives to hurling promotion either at club or county level. Surely its a brainstorming focus group that hopefully will point things towards a better hurling foundation across the county.

I`d go as far as to say none of them would submit a mileage claim for the like of this. Good luck to them.
I hear that this group are looking at how to improve standards throughout the county but at the end of the day nothing will change unless their recommendations secure 75% of the vote at convention. Have only heard Nelson's name mentioned as chair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 05, 2012, 09:37:32 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 05, 2012, 09:13:47 AM

"Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses".

Bit harsh that comment. Some of those guys on that forum have dedicated their lives to hurling promotion either at club or county level. Surely its a brainstorming focus group that hopefully will point things towards a better hurling foundation across the county.

I`d go as far as to say none of them would submit a mileage claim for the like of this. Good luck to them.

Some have taken a 20 years break.................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2012, 09:38:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 05, 2012, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 05, 2012, 09:13:47 AM

"Sounds like another talking shop, with the associated travelling expenses".

Bit harsh that comment. Some of those guys on that forum have dedicated their lives to hurling promotion either at club or county level. Surely its a brainstorming focus group that hopefully will point things towards a better hurling foundation across the county.

I`d go as far as to say none of them would submit a mileage claim for the like of this. Good luck to them.
I hear that this group are looking at how to improve standards throughout the county but at the end of the day nothing will change unless their recommendations secure 75% of the vote at convention. Have only heard Nelson's name mentioned as chair

Johnny McIntosh is also involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 05, 2012, 10:02:19 AM
Pat Hamill, John Campbell, Liam Donnelly and Dessie Donnelly also included
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 10:05:18 AM
Very familiar woth some of the people involved and never heard of others.

Anyone knowledgeable enough on here to give us a run-down of who exactly is on this group and what their backgrounds are?
If that sounds negative believe me it's not, it genuine, good luck to the group maybe they'll do something (anything) to bring us forward?
"Better to light a candle than curse the darkness"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 05, 2012, 12:54:50 PM
Whatever conclusions they draw will need to be grounded by evidence rather than meer personal opinion and any ideas/recommendations will need to be ones that when articulated properly, convince the hearts and minds of those who will have to carry them out for them to work out as they'd want them to. 

E.G.
I personally think there'd be nothing wrong with the divisional boards as they are IF SW antrim got to the point where they were better organised and accepted that collectively they need to work together in the best interests of the game(s). So I hope they don't come out with the standard patter about there NEEDING to be these all county leagues from U12 up without taking into consideration the possibility of an improved SW board or indeed considering the addition travelling costs and times for clubs if such a thing came about.

Will be interesting to see what their views are regarding the development squads. Would expect that we'd be comparing what we're able to deliver in Antrim and compare that to a successful template from a county with a similar playing population and demography to ourselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 02:05:11 PM
Spoke to one of the lads involved in this recently and he mentioned various ideas about improving hurling in Antrim and tapping into the funds that are available in Croke park. Only way to tap into these funds is to come up with a plan, Dublin did it and have reaped benefits with their underage teams competing (well not last week) with Munster and the rest of the big teams and their seniors have made great strides in recent years.

There may be a look at divisional changes and a broader look at clubs efforts in training teams and bringing teams up a level or two. Mix in the success of Loughgiel and should clubs buy into it the we can all improve the standard of hurling (but only during the day time as apparently ya can't hurl at night!!!)

Anything is better than what we have and as someone has said the standard has not risen in twenty years (county level) and this is down to coaching at club level initially and then the county teams.

As Skull has said personal opinion and any ideas/recommendations to higher leagues needs to be well put before agreed. I'd love our club to be div 1 but we'd be lucky to stay up unless we got our act together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
I heard a rumour about division 1 taking in 4 new teams. A quick glance at the division 2 tables makes it clear only 2 teams could attempt this standard. Would the next 2 clubs or hurling in general benefit from getting tanked every week? I suppose this is what skull means by dealing in facts not opinions.

Divisional boards for my opinion can stay but must always be seconfary bodies rowing in behind the all county agenda - Antrim realty isn't big enought to need 3 regional boards and and 1 whole county. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
I heard a rumour about division 1 taking in 4 new teams. A quick glance at the division 2 tables makes it clear only 2 teams could attempt this standard. Would the next 2 clubs or hurling in general benefit from getting tanked every week? I suppose this is what skull means by dealing in facts not opinions.

Divisional boards for my opinion can stay but must always be seconfary bodies rowing in behind the all county agenda - Antrim realty isn't big enought to need 3 regional boards and and 1 whole county. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.

Well the other teams wouldn't be getting tanked by Rossa or Glenariff btdtgtt. wouldn't that be a fair comment?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Well the results prove that alright mr2 yes.

But look at the points tally there is a serious gap between the top 2 and the others. This is caused by consistency across the year rather thank one off potential - and that's the basis of league hurling as opposed to championship.

Galls have proved their one off ability to top level but they can't do it across the year - football's fault not blaming individuals.

On the same basis - sarsfields and others for example are not yet ready for 3pm Sundays in loughiel dunloy etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Well the results prove that alright mr2 yes.

But look at the points tally there is a serious gap between the top 2 and the others. This is caused by consistency across the year rather thank one off potential - and that's the basis of league hurling as opposed to championship.

Galls have proved their one off ability to top level but they can't do it across the year - football's fault not blaming individuals.

On the same basis - sarsfields and others for example are not yet ready for 3pm Sundays in loughiel dunloy etc.

Tanking? oh is that the tanking we give Rossa at the start of the year? The last few games we played Loughgiel Dunloy and the rest in the league will show we were more than capable, in fact I scored the last score to earn a draw against Dunloy the last time we played them in the league!! I'd say we are a far better team now than then. Can you remember Rossa's last league appearances?

So you are saying there is a serious difference in the teams?  I thought you knew a little about hurling, on that note I'll not be taking you seriously anymore :o

To buck you're idea further, who won the Div 1 football title this year?

Taxi  for bghhtteti!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2012, 05:41:32 PM
Busy weekend ahead for us. Away to Cushendall tomorrow and home to Poftaferry on Sunday. Down to the nitty gritty.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Well the results prove that alright mr2 yes.

But look at the points tally there is a serious gap between the top 2 and the others. This is caused by consistency across the year rather thank one off potential - and that's the basis of league hurling as opposed to championship.

Galls have proved their one off ability to top level but they can't do it across the year - football's fault not blaming individuals.

On the same basis - sarsfields and others for example are not yet ready for 3pm Sundays in loughiel dunloy etc.

Tanking? oh is that the tanking we give Rossa at the start of the year? The last few games we played Loughgiel Dunloy and the rest in the league will show we were more than capable, in fact I scored the last score to earn a draw against Dunloy the last time we played them in the league!! I'd say we are a far better team now than then. Can you remember Rossa's last league appearances?

So you are saying there is a serious difference in the teams?  I thought you knew a little about hurling, on that note I'll not be taking you seriously anymore :o

To buck you're idea further, who won the Div 1 football title this year?

Taxi  for bghhtteti!!

I think u have read me wrong or you are at the wrong time of the month mr2.

I agreed with ur point that galls are up to this level - but the fact is that over a course of the year they can't maintain it (ie when football championship kicks in)

But don't take my word for it - Rossa & Glenarrife are currently 7 & 8 points ahead of st galls - that's 4 games worth of results where they have been more consistent.
Also st galls have won less than half their games in division 2 - so my point is simply on what basis should they therefore play division 1? Simple!

Now u quote galls performances in championship - but this is again just what I said. Yes galls are capable of peaking for top level games but that's what championship is. League is different it's all about consistency and if u don't accept my point the league table doesn't lie. Won less than half ur games.

I am sure it's frustrating for u not seeing galls reach their potential and as a Belfast man I share this - but that's not the concern of other teams and it doesn't look like its goin to change.

So in short if u can't accept what I am saying it is fact not opinions - phone eagle taxis yourself!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:03:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Well the results prove that alright mr2 yes.

But look at the points tally there is a serious gap between the top 2 and the others. This is caused by consistency across the year rather thank one off potential - and that's the basis of league hurling as opposed to championship.

Galls have proved their one off ability to top level but they can't do it across the year - football's fault not blaming individuals.

On the same basis - sarsfields and others for example are not yet ready for 3pm Sundays in loughiel dunloy etc.

Tanking? oh is that the tanking we give Rossa at the start of the year? The last few games we played Loughgiel Dunloy and the rest in the league will show we were more than capable, in fact I scored the last score to earn a draw against Dunloy the last time we played them in the league!! I'd say we are a far better team now than then. Can you remember Rossa's last league appearances?
So you are saying there is a serious difference in the teams?  I thought you knew a little about hurling, on that note I'll not be taking you seriously anymore :o

To buck you're idea further, who won the Div 1 football title this year?

Taxi  for bghhtteti!!

I think u have read me wrong or you are at the wrong time of the month mr2.

I agreed with ur point that galls are up to this level - but the fact is that over a course of the year they can't maintain it (ie when football championship kicks in)

But don't take my word for it - Rossa & Glenarrife are currently 7 & 8 points ahead of st galls - that's 4 games worth of results where they have been more consistent.
Also st galls have won less than half their games in division 2 - so my point is simply on what basis should they therefore play division 1? Simple!

Now u quote galls performances in championship - but this is again just what I said. Yes galls are capable of peaking for top level games but that's what championship is. League is different it's all about consistency and if u don't accept my point the league table doesn't lie. Won less than half ur games.

I am sure it's frustrating for u not seeing galls reach their potential and as a Belfast man I share this - but that's not the concern of other teams and it doesn't look like its goin to change.

So in short if u can't accept what I am saying it is fact not opinions - phone eagle taxis yourself!

You really need to read my post as your time of the month has clearly messed with your eyes!! I have not mentioned Championship hurling at all.

Our performances while crap were usually lifted when playing our friends up the row, oops the Shaws Road and when we played Glenariff with a weakend team we hurled rightly up the glens, after holding them to a draw at our own pitch. I'm not going to argue about the league but just the games were we were played the top two as you put it, should we play them in Div 1 we won't get tanked as you called it. Now keep up

I've highlighted it for you just in case you have trouble reading
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
calm down calm down calm down there lads  ;D

first off is there not somethin passed last year about no changes bein made the year they that there passed?

and second forgettin about that what if they made it a 12 team Div 1 with no relegation for say 2 years. would that give lets say lesser teams no offence time to get to standard .......... or would it give thwm a free year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
calm down calm down calm down there lads  ;D

first off is there not somethin passed last year about no changes bein made the year they that there passed?

and second forgettin about that what if they made it a 12 team Div 1 with no relegation for say 2 years. would that give lets say lesser teams no offence time to get to standard .......... or would it give thwm a free year?

Would definitely give Ballycastle some breathing space from relegation for 2 years :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
calm down calm down calm down there lads  ;D

first off is there not somethin passed last year about no changes bein made the year they that there passed?

and second forgettin about that what if they made it a 12 team Div 1 with no relegation for say 2 years. would that give lets say lesser teams no offence time to get to standard .......... or would it give thwm a free year?

Would definitely give Ballycastle some breathing space from relegation for 2 years :o
Sure theyd just get the league structures changed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
calm down calm down calm down there lads  ;D

first off is there not somethin passed last year about no changes bein made the year they that there passed?

and second forgettin about that what if they made it a 12 team Div 1 with no relegation for say 2 years. would that give lets say lesser teams no offence time to get to standard .......... or would it give thwm a free year?

Would definitely give Ballycastle some breathing space from relegation for 2 years :o
Sure theyd just get the league structures changed.

Again >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
calm down calm down calm down there lads  ;D

first off is there not somethin passed last year about no changes bein made the year they that there passed?

and second forgettin about that what if they made it a 12 team Div 1 with no relegation for say 2 years. would that give lets say lesser teams no offence time to get to standard .......... or would it give thwm a free year?

Would definitely give Ballycastle some breathing space from relegation for 2 years :o
Sure theyd just get the league structures changed.

Again >:(
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
MR2 your a bettin man

I'll give you 3/1 now that the Town beat Galls the next time they meet. If youse is playin here I'll make sure the chippys is open.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 08:06:46 PM
MR2 your a bettin man

I'll give you 3/1 now that the Town beat Galls the next time they meet. If youse is playin here I'll make sure the chippys is open.

Hey if I was the manager again I might take you up on that, Listen we've only (in my time) troubled Ballycastle once or twice over the years, we could never compete with the size of ya's ffs!! so your money is safe. I'd gauge it better if it were Championship, Youse are a better team in Championship than league recently so that would be a fairer bet.

As for the chippy van, we will only eat it after the game, hopefully with the winnings
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 05, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
so would doin away with relegation for a couple of years help teams raise there standard or would it just be used a a free year for clubs that prefer football for example?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 06, 2012, 08:52:56 AM
Can't do quotes / bold tricky on phone.

Read again mr2.

My original post clearly mentions galls as putting up big one off performances. U can include the top teams in div2 the Rossa derby in this fine.

I then say sarsfields and other in a separate paragraph - therefore the the others does not include galls as I have felt with them separately already.

Sure in the very first paragraph I state clearly galls results show they are match for top teams in one off.

U should get a job at stormont since u seem to like bring offended so much - I hear the money is better that that hurling development committeee!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2012, 05:29:17 PM
Fair play c dall on there league victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 06, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Well all this debate around teams in Div 2 etc comes to an end tomorrow with the last set of fixtures. Rossa need a win up in Ballycastle v Carey to secure promotion. I think they will hold on in a nervy performance and do it.

What is interesting is that the one year Rossa seem to have got it together and gave themselves a chance of promotion is the year that it may not matter as at all, can definitely see there being changes to the leagues this winter. Should be two up, two down. Certainly not 4, this will ruin Div 1 next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 06, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
Delighted to have won the league and restored my faith in the our team. However it is high time the standard of refereeing in our county was addressed. I won't try and defend Shane, he deserved his sending off but for Johnny Campbell to hit Brian Delargy over the head with a stick in front of the referee when the referee had the ball in his hand and only get a yellow card was nothing short of a disgrace. Garrett Duffy (umpire) called the referee in at least 4 times to point out fouls by Cushendall but saw nothing that a Loughgiel player did the entire game. Benny Mc Carry also pulled across Donal Mc Naughton when he had the ball in his hand and nothing was done. Again I'm not defending any of the slaps our players gave out and the ref gave us 1 red and several yellows. At least 1, maybe 2, Loughgiel men deserved the line and I think in the entire game they got 1 yellow. I'm disgusted with the preferential treatment Loughgiel get from refs and from the county board breaking by laws to move games for them. Man of the match young Eoghan Campbell with 5 excellent points for The Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 06, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
I wonder would Loughgiel supply the video they took to the county board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
Am sure if the county board asked for it they would get it JJ.   As for this special treatment loughgiel get.   Would you FFS catch a grip.   Loughgiel start to win a few championships and next thing the refs give us special treatment.   Your faith was "restored" today.   Now shut up ya ejit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 06, 2012, 07:35:55 PM
have to say that the referee was way out of his depth. in truth i didnt want to see anyone sent off from either team. shane got a straight red on advice from the umpire. johnny campbell who has never pulled a dirty stroke in his life blatantly & deliberately struck 3feet from the ref & got yellow. now let me say i am happy that he only got yellow as he is a fine hurler & never dirty but for me the ref was totally to blame for the whole incident as he had given a throw in ball. he then stood like a rabbit paralysed in a bright light for at least 60 seconds before he threw the ball in. all this did was encourage the players to jab one another which ultimately led to johnny striking. on at least 4 occasions he went in to seek advice from the umpires when the common sense approach would have been to let the game go. i think that the ref may well not get to bed tonight without first asking permission from garret duffy!!!!   i dont like to slate refs but his performance was at best shocking (for both teams) i said to a loughguile supporter beside me that there was a real danger of him either getting someone hurt or loughguile also losing a man for something very menial.johnny will blow a huge sigh of releif but as i said im glad & i honestly wish loughguile every success in their defence of ulster & all ireland.in all seriousness though mr mc grath days as a senior referee are surely at an end. b4 the galls men come in saying its easy to slate the ref & who else would have done the game my answer is simple. lets see how many people who were at the game have anything positive to say about his performance to both teams & lastly yes the game would have been better served with no ref as  the game was played in as sporting a manner with no blatanly dangerous or sneaky pulls from either team. SIE what do you think about this?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 07, 2012, 07:02:47 AM
commmon the dall, great team and would be great champions, but nothing away form dunloy, deserved to be there but had it been the dall.........., before u say it, if my granny had balls......, but do think if dall had of got to that final they would have romped it....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 08:06:01 AM
Auld Stock why on earth would you be glad that someone who struck another player with a stick while the ball wasn't in play only got a yellow card? That send out completely the wrong message to everyone who plays hurling. Why would a parent take their child to play hurling when it is acceptable for someone to hit them on the head with a stick and not even get punished. As I said I won't try and defend Shane who deserved a red card but just because you think Johnny Campbell has never pulled a dirty stroke (which is rubbish by the way he did it the last time we played in the league) does it mean he shouldn't get a red card for deliberate striking off the ball? Complete rubbish Auld Stock. His was a red card offence and a red card should have been issued, regardless of Loughgiel's involvement in the Ulster Championship and his previous record. Mc Grath certainly didn't take Shane's previous record into consideration when he sent him off. Honestly I thought Mc Grath gave the worst refereeing performance I've seen in a long long time and his umpires were like detectives looking for Cushendall men but it was see no evil hear no evil as far as Loughgiel were concerned. Look at the incident where a high ball was landing in the Loughgiel goal mouth, Ronan Mc Closkey was holding Shane, Shane in trying to get away from him knocked him over and the 2 clowns in white coats called the ref in and he gave a free out. Now could someone tell me what good it is to a forward to commit a foul as the ball was dropping into the square? Complete and utter tripe from the officials. Also nice to see Conor Carson pop over the winner, certainly put a stop to the abuse he received from the baboons on the Loughgiel side of the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 07, 2012, 08:34:44 AM
JJ you won the match, and won the league. FFS wise up, you really need to take the blinkers off when looking at frees and cards, cushendall can't be right all the time. Anyway enjoy your league victory.
Ulster championship next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 07, 2012, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 07, 2012, 07:02:47 AM
commmon the dall, great team and would be great champions, but nothing away form dunloy, deserved to be there but had it been the dall.........., before u say it, if my granny had balls......, but do think if dall had of got to that final they would have romped it....
Wise up, what a load of complete nonsense, was that congrats to Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 09:07:34 AM
Wino I'm not saying we are right all the time, far from it and I've said Shane deserved a red card
(Any shamrocks big enough to admit Campbell deserved to walk and miss Ulster Championship?) but what I am saying is that according to The County, who break by laws to rearrange fixtures to suit Loughgiel and referees who consistently gave Loughgiel special treatment all year, Loughgiel are never wrong. I could give you a list of examples and I'm sure Dunloy people could as well of Loughgiel getting special treatment from officials, both on the field and at County/ CCC level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 07, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 09:07:34 AM
Wino I'm not saying we are right all the time, far from it and I've said Shane deserved a red card
(Any shamrocks big enough to admit Campbell deserved to walk and miss Ulster Championship?) but what I am saying is that according to The County, who break by laws to rearrange fixtures to suit Loughgiel and referees who consistently gave Loughgiel special treatment all year, Loughgiel are never wrong. I could give you a list of examples and I'm sure Dunloy people could as well of Loughgiel getting special treatment from officials, both on the field and at County/ CCC level.
I didn't see the jc incident as there was 10-15 players in a very small space on the far side of the field.
You do need to wind it in a bit, it looks very much as sg says, we start to win and all of a sudden we're getting favours from county ccc and officials, that is complete nonsense. Maybe you said the same of Croke park after paddys day.
As I said enjoy your league win and give the other stuff a rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 09:42:11 AM
How about you give the see no evil hear no evil crap a rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 07, 2012, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 09:42:11 AM
How about you give the see no evil hear no evil crap a rest
:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 07, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
JJ as far as im concerned theres a bit of the zealot in you. i was trying to highlight how bad the ref was. this rampage your on about preferential treatment. bullshit!!!! the reason we didnt win the c'ship was clear for anyone from the 'dall to see. a simple refusal to work like dogs to get to the top. the hard miles needed during the winter simply werent done. the holiday 3 days b4 c'ship was a summing up of the collective attitude. and by the way in defending big conor  are you just going to airbrush over the fact that he spent 40mins barraging around like a bull in a china shop trying to get himself sent off!!!! only again for mc graths incompetence we would surely have been down to 14 an awful lot sooner. sorry i used to think you were quite a reasonable talker but your fairly recent conversion to communism has left you with no mind of your own. toe the party line like a good little boy, like you have been told to. no room for an opinion of your own in the brave new world!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: lonely1 on October 07, 2012, 11:16:03 AM
JJ you really do have a problem with authority, in all fairness the ref should have had Neil Mc to the line after the dirty stroke across the hands of MC Carry in the first 10 minutes, the video should highlight that one also, NMac got away with a soft yellow there. Your lads continually slapped after the ball, the shams had no point to prove yesterday, some of your lads felt they had! Didn't see half the aggression showed yesterday against Dunloy few weeks back, maybe you'd have been in the final if you had!!!!

This was the same ref that was praised for U21 final that you threw away not so long ago? As the old saying goes "eaten bread is soon forgotten", maybe he had a bad day, christ I could name 10 players that had a bad day against dunloy, didn't see you coming on a nailing them, as always go for the soft targets, MC Grath yesterday, Elliott a few weeks back change the fckn record and lift a whistle, MR2 Im sure would coach you ;) You won as previously said so shut the fck up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 07, 2012, 11:37:19 AM
Quote from: auld stock on October 07, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
JJ as far as im concerned theres a bit of the zealot in you. i was trying to highlight how bad the ref was. this rampage your on about preferential treatment. bullshit!!!! the reason we didnt win the c'ship was clear for anyone from the 'dall to see. a simple refusal to work like dogs to get to the top. the hard miles needed during the winter simply werent done. the holiday 3 days b4 c'ship was a summing up of the collective attitude. and by the way in defending big conor  are you just going to airbrush over the fact that he spent 40mins barraging around like a bull in a china shop trying to get himself sent off!!!! only again for mc graths incompetence we would surely have been down to 14 an awful lot sooner. sorry i used to think you were quite a reasonable talker but your fairly recent conversion to communism has left you with no mind of your own. toe the party line like a good little boy, like you have been told to. no room for an opinion of your own in the brave new world!!!

HA!  Excellent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 11:48:28 AM
Firstly, I wasn't at the match and can't talk about the refereeing, but knowing the fixture this was always going to cause grief for the referee, Davy didn't set out yesterday to have a bad game (by your accounts) he probably didn't realise that there is a fair degree of rivalry in this fixture.

I would have struggled to keep an eye on the match if I were refereeing it, individual battles going on all over the pitch. Your first instinct is to have a hard fought tough game and let it flow. Problem is this, we in Antrim can't make the difference between a hard hit and a dirty stroke. If we get a hard hit we want to slap back, the feeling of, that that was personal overides the fact that it was just a hard hit. Ya should lift you fat ass of the ground and get the next fooking ball.

Too many scores to settle, people more interested in "doing someone in" that trying to bury the ball into the net. If Davy had a bad day then fine, he's man enough to admit that, he's refereed some cracking games this year and will improve. Give him a break, he also doesn't have an agenda of giving loughgiel handy ones, he's not part of some secret organisation that gives Loughgiel special attention, he doesn't give a fook who wins either. So get that "they are against us" attitude out of your heads lads. Hard work wins Championships putting the miles in as Auld Stock said. Being honest about yourselves. If you train and be 100% then that's all you can do.

Referees never really win or lose games, it's usually the players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 11:50:53 AM
I have some sympathy for JJ here!

Too often are decisions made in light of the players / teams involved! The fact the dall won doesn't change this and if anything JJ is right in still highlighting a blight on our officials - the fact is some being personal bias / mindsets to the job. I get ur point MR2 and McGrath is genuine in my experience - but the fact is that refs do influence results. It is naieve to suggest otherwise.

Well HS I have stopped short of the blue & gold hat scarf & headband but I am a Rossa man for today!
Just pulling in to ballymena and back up the glens for the Carey game. Might be my last game for a while manballandall!
Good luck to Rossa today hop they add to underage titles in Belfast - and ur seniors prove me wrong they deserve to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 02:12:29 PM
Rossa won under16 championship.

A brave few supporters in fine fettle celebrating!
Good luck to them they deserved it.

Back on the road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
First of all Auld Stock at no stage did I suggest we didn't win the championship because of the special treatment Loughgiel are afforded by the county. I'd be well aware of the reasons we didn't perform against Dunloy. However can you honestly say that breaking a county by law to rearrange a match isn't special treatment? 1 week before the county final Loughgiel were supposed to play Cushendall and Dunloy had to play Ballycastle. Dunloy and Ballycastle played with Dunloy fielding a reserve team and Ballycastle won easy (Fair to the other teams at the bottom of the table?). Even though the county by law states that a game cannot be postponed unless both teams agree, in the case of Loughgiel V Cushendall both teams didn't agree to postpone the game and yet CCC go against their own rules and have the game refixed. Is that special treatment Auld Stock? Is it special treatment for 2 men, 1 from each team to commit the same offence on a GAA field and receive different punishments?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 07, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
JJ you are right. everyone should get the same for an offence so by my reckoning we would have had neil sent off after 10 mins. conor off anytime in the first 40 & oh yeah. eunan in the last 10mins. strap on a pair & iron your blouse!!!  think we should lobby to have hurling made a strictly no contact sport. im off cant read this crying poor me crap any more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 07, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
JJ you are right. everyone should get the same for an offence so by my reckoning we would have had neil sent off after 10 mins. conor off anytime in the first 40 & oh yeah. eunan in the last 10mins. strap on a pair & iron your blouse!!!  think we should lobby to have hurling made a strictly no contact sport. im off cant read this crying poor me crap any more.
+1.   Crying Cnut
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 07, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
God jesus jones I've been watching your posts for years,you're easily the most anti LG plonker I've ever seen on any forum. Everything that happens is LG's fault. According to you they get all the ref's decisions and any they never deserve to win anything. Get a life and dry you're tears,everybody else has.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2012, 03:51:57 PM
Congrats to Cushendall on their league success.

Cloughmills 6 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2012, 04:04:50 PM
Biddies 7 up at half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2012, 04:08:58 PM
Bit of a collapse by Ballygalget against Ballycastle, leading 1-19 to 1-14 with 8 mins to go and ended up losing 4-16 1-20. That's them relegated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 07, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Naomh Éanna edged a determined Derrynoose by a point, hurled well for 10/15 minutes at best. we were very lucky to get out when they missed a 60m free at the death. Bredagh next weekend apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 05:14:17 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 07, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Naomh Éanna edged a determined Derrynoose by a point, hurled well for 10/15 minutes at best. we were very lucky to get out when they missed a 60m free at the death. Bredagh next weekend apparently.

PM'd you there last man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 07, 2012, 05:49:25 PM
biddies done it, the corner house will be rocking

that was last years beaten finalists they put out if i am not mistaken

how long has the club been formed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2012, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 07, 2012, 05:49:25 PM
biddies done it, the corner house will be rocking

that was last years beaten finalists they put out if i am not mistaken

how long has the club been formed
20 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 07:17:49 PM
Will Cloughmills be playing senior championship next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
Well they won't if they win Ulster intermediate be able to play in the Ulster inter championship again.

Hopefully we get them next year :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 07, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
Well they won't if they win Ulster intermediate be able to play in the Ulster inter championship again.

Hopefully we get them next year :o
Like us they were making hard enough work of it, before I left anyway. Struggled to compose themselves in the face of very ordinary opposition, take it they sorted it out in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
Yes there up senior next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
Not much of a signal here but left ballycastle at half time - Rossa blowing Carey away in a procession. 
Congrats HS - I have already eaten my humble pie so suffice to say I am delighted for Rossa! Looks like a good times returning there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 07, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
Well they won't if they win Ulster intermediate be able to play in the Ulster inter championship again.

Hopefully we get them next year :o

I'd say they are thinking the same thing about you boys, Milltown!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
Not much of a signal here but left ballycastle at half time - Rossa blowing Carey away in a procession. 
Congrats HS - I have already eaten my humble pie so suffice to say I am delighted for Rossa! Looks like a good times returning there.

Well if the leagues changed as I have heard, we'll be joining them from 4th place :o. But they will be tanking us so won't be much craic.

Well better meeting us than your good friends from up the road clootfromthe21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 07, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 07, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
God jesus jones I've been watching your posts for years,you're easily the most anti LG plonker I've ever seen on any forum. Everything that happens is LG's fault. According to you they get all the ref's decisions and any they never deserve to win anything. Get a life and dry you're tears,everybody else has.
Exactly we all accept that what ever jim wants joe will grant it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 07, 2012, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 07, 2012, 08:06:01 AM
Auld Stock why on earth would you be glad that someone who struck another player with a stick while the ball wasn't in play only got a yellow card? That send out completely the wrong message to everyone who plays hurling. Why would a parent take their child to play hurling when it is acceptable for someone to hit them on the head with a stick and not even get punished. As I said I won't try and defend Shane who deserved a red card but just because you think Johnny Campbell has never pulled a dirty stroke (which is rubbish by the way he did it the last time we played in the league) does it mean he shouldn't get a red card for deliberate striking off the ball? Complete rubbish Auld Stock. His was a red card offence and a red card should have been issued, regardless of Loughgiel's involvement in the Ulster Championship and his previous record. Mc Grath certainly didn't take Shane's previous record into consideration when he sent him off. Honestly I thought Mc Grath gave the worst refereeing performance I've seen in a long long time and his umpires were like detectives looking for Cushendall men but it was see no evil hear no evil as far as Loughgiel were concerned. Look at the incident where a high ball was landing in the Loughgiel goal mouth, Ronan Mc Closkey was holding Shane, Shane in trying to get away from him knocked him over and the 2 clowns in white coats called the ref in and he gave a free out. Now could someone tell me what good it is to a forward to commit a foul as the ball was dropping into the square? Complete and utter tripe from the officials. Also nice to see Conor Carson pop over the winner, certainly put a stop to the abuse he received from the baboons on the Loughgiel side of the pitch.

JJ you seem to think that the officials in a match that you are watching as a spectator should see the game as you see it. Did you ever think that the officials might see things from different angles and thus have different views to you? Maybe you should let yourself be known to the officials before games so that they can all stand beside you and see everyhing that you see  :P Take some advice from your clubmate Auld Stock and chill out a bit!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 07, 2012, 11:58:04 PM
Offaly SHC final
At O'Connor Park
Kilcormac-Killoughey 2-16
St Rynagh's 2-12

Bit of a turn up this is it not. Thought st rynaghs were odds on for this final.

See killmalock won limerick as well the day beating adare by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2012, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
Not much of a signal here but left ballycastle at half time - Rossa blowing Carey away in a procession. 
Congrats HS - I have already eaten my humble pie so suffice to say I am delighted for Rossa! Looks like a good times returning there.

Well if the leagues changed as I have heard, we'll be joining them from 4th place :o. But they will be tanking us so won't be much craic.Well better meeting us than your good friends from up the road clootfromthe21

It would appear you either have a chip on your shoulder or a problem reading Mr2 - or both.
Perhaps its just difficult for you to see Rossa earn their promotion.
Although I would hold out on 4 teams being promoted - thats not what was being muted in Ballycastle at all yesterday - isnt Dessie Donnelly on that Development Panel? He seemed to think the leagues would be retained but at most two promoted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2012, 09:31:35 AM
MR still thinks St Galls should be in division 1 I think... Really would prefer the leagues aren't changed - I don't think there's anything wrong as they are.

Rumours are Kilmallock are flying. If Portuma get out of Galway that may or may not matter...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 08, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
The proposal i'd say came from that development committee that was set up. I believe it is to go to county convention or whatever the system is and clubs will get a vote on it.

Funny how after all those years of Rossa trying, the one year they earn it, they could have went up from being top 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2012, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
Not much of a signal here but left ballycastle at half time - Rossa blowing Carey away in a procession. 
Congrats HS - I have already eaten my humble pie so suffice to say I am delighted for Rossa! Looks like a good times returning there.

Well if the leagues changed as I have heard, we'll be joining them from 4th place :o. But they will be tanking us so won't be much craic.Well better meeting us than your good friends from up the road clootfromthe21

It would appear you either have a chip on your shoulder or a problem reading Mr2 - or both.
Perhaps its just difficult for you to see Rossa earn their promotion.
Although I would hold out on 4 teams being promoted - thats not what was being muted in Ballycastle at all yesterday - isnt Dessie Donnelly on that Development Panel? He seemed to think the leagues would be retained but at most two promoted.

No chip on the shoulder at all, the most consistant teams win promotion, or leagues, and the best teams win championship. It's a strange set up but that's what works best. Rossa have proved to be the most consistant team this year and fair play, no offence to Minder but I'd prefer to see more city teams up in div 1 so I'm happy.

So the last few years you have been watching mainly div 2 games, next year you'll be following Rossa in div 1 :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2012, 10:35:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2012, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2012, 07:51:59 PM
Not much of a signal here but left ballycastle at half time - Rossa blowing Carey away in a procession. 
Congrats HS - I have already eaten my humble pie so suffice to say I am delighted for Rossa! Looks like a good times returning there.

Well if the leagues changed as I have heard, we'll be joining them from 4th place :o. But they will be tanking us so won't be much craic.Well better meeting us than your good friends from up the road clootfromthe21

It would appear you either have a chip on your shoulder or a problem reading Mr2 - or both.
Perhaps its just difficult for you to see Rossa earn their promotion.
Although I would hold out on 4 teams being promoted - thats not what was being muted in Ballycastle at all yesterday - isnt Dessie Donnelly on that Development Panel? He seemed to think the leagues would be retained but at most two promoted.

No chip on the shoulder at all, the most consistant teams win promotion, or leagues, and the best teams win championship. It's a strange set up but that's what works best. Rossa have proved to be the most consistant team this year and fair play, no offence to Minder but I'd prefer to see more city teams up in div 1 so I'm happy.

So the last few years you have been watching mainly div 2 games, next year you'll be following Rossa in div 1 :o

Yes and I have been a Manchester City supporter all my life honestly!

Tbh I make an effort to get to bigger league games but other than that it's which ever fixture fits best while running juvenile teams around! So I will still be a Div2 watcher - the powers that be can decide if Galls are there or not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 08, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 08, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
The proposal i'd say came from that development committee that was set up. I believe it is to go to county convention or whatever the system is and clubs will get a vote on it.

Funny how after all those years of Rossa trying, the one year they earn it, they could have went up from being top 4.

As ked this already and noone answered - was there not a rule passed about changes not takin effect till the following year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 08, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
Good win for us on Saturday. It doesn't gloss over the championship exit but at least it was a positive end to the season.

I had said that I thought the ref was good in the U21 Final but he was very poor on Saturday- he looked as if he was struggling to get around the pitch. He can have good and bad games like any players. Happened to be that the U21 Final was in the most a clean competitive game

On the incidents themselves during the game, is this is what is being suggested

Neil deserved a red for a yellow card offence because he's got a bad history
Shane got a red and deserved a red, because it was a red card offence
Johnny C got a yellow card instead of a blatant red because he's not a dirty hurler
Skinner got no card instead of a blatant red for striking at the end (I'm lost to explain that one)
Conor Carson deserved a red for tackling players (when he got horrible abuse from the home 'support' the whole game. Just because they houl lowdly)

As I say it was good to end the year positively with the performance from Eoghan Campbell who scored 4/5 points a real boost for ourselves.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 08, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 08, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 08, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
The proposal i'd say came from that development committee that was set up. I believe it is to go to county convention or whatever the system is and clubs will get a vote on it.

Funny how after all those years of Rossa trying, the one year they earn it, they could have went up from being top 4.

As ked this already and noone answered - was there not a rule passed about changes not takin effect till the following year?

Yes this rule was passed, but also included the 'get-out clause' that leagues could be changed for the current year with a 2/3rds majority at county committee. Cue the behind-the-scenes phone calls from potential div 1 hurling clubs to football only clubs  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2012, 01:08:25 PM
i dont want div 1 changed at all simply as the games will never be played. theres october and games still being played out. lgiel had to play 2 in 2 days did they not? yes it was their own faults but if we add 4 more to the pot we will never get these ggames played out.
a bit mad if you ask me. glenariffe could cope ok in the top and maybe st galls but their football sucess will always cause the hurlers to suffer. the rest, well no disrespect to them but they wouldnt cope in div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 08, 2012, 01:15:26 PM
You've just about summed it up Colonel. Congratulations to Rossa getting promoted and good to see them back in Div 1. You always get a tough game up in Rossa Park. They've won 2 U-16's in a row now after 2 minor a few years ago. They should build from here and start looking at winning championships again in the next 5-10 years. Also a bonus that we don't have 3 trips down the ards this year :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
If truth be told I'd rather go up as winners, and I hope we don't go up right away, maybe next year, some of the younger lads have a bit more experience now and the panel is getting bigger Less lads at college and and no Minors next year so less games for them to be playing.

Just need a manager now, hopefully one will come in early and put a plan in to sustain a long league campaign. Good luck to him :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 09, 2012, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: the waffler on October 03, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
as far as im aware te antrim conty board call off ports v galgets as if ports played  week side would nt be fair on other teams

yeah Joe did call off our game with the Ports, not that it matters now, but are they setting a dangerous precedent for other years by doing so or will it be conveniently be forgotten if it doesn't suit.

When in Rome and all that.


As for league changes, where we're at currently with team development a year (or even two) in the current Div2 mightn't do us any harm and allow us to bring in some of the youngsters through the ranks without getting tanked week in week out. Taking the likes of St Galls, Glenariffe etc would obviously weaken Div2 and TBH, I think we'd be competitive with them even with our young lads thrown in, If we're to be in Div2 I'd prefer them to keep the leagues as is.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 09, 2012, 09:56:14 AM
Any word of a backroom team for the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
As a Belfast man if it's 4 to be brought up then thats great from the perspective of including Galls & sars.

However as a hurling man - I think the league points show that only the top 2 can make a viable case for division 1 standard. (over the course of a full season - not as a one off obviously!)

Long term - i think its a no brainer.
Top & bottom should be promoted & relegated.
2nd top&bottom play-off at a neutral venue.
Simple.

I haven't heard anything about the back room team but the new manager was up over the weekend. I suspect finalising one city man and one glensman - plus taking in a couple of games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 10:35:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
As a Belfast man if it's 4 to be brought up then thats great from the perspective of including Galls & sars.

However as a hurling man - I think the league points show that only the top 2 can make a viable case for division 1 standard. (over the course of a full season - not as a one off obviously!)

Long term - i think its a no brainer.
Top & bottom should be promoted & relegated.
2nd top&bottom play-off at a neutral venue.
Simple.

I haven't heard anything about the back room team but the new manager was up over the weekend. I suspect finalising one city man and one glensman - plus taking in a couple of games.

Will Rossa stay up next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 09, 2012, 10:38:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
If truth be told I'd rather go up as winners, and I hope we don't go up right away, maybe next year, some of the younger lads have a bit more experience now and the panel is getting bigger Less lads at college and and no Minors next year so less games for them to be playing.

Just need a manager now, hopefully one will come in early and put a plan in to sustain a long league campaign. Good luck to him :o

Surprised you havent heard considering your inside knowledge  ;) but the talk is that a guy with county management experience has already put his name forward for the job next year. Not a bad year to be in charge if the new league structures are put in place albeit to the dissatisfaction of btdtgtt ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 09, 2012, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 10:35:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
As a Belfast man if it's 4 to be brought up then thats great from the perspective of including Galls & sars.

However as a hurling man - I think the league points show that only the top 2 can make a viable case for division 1 standard. (over the course of a full season - not as a one off obviously!)

Long term - i think its a no brainer.
Top & bottom should be promoted & relegated.
2nd top&bottom play-off at a neutral venue.
Simple.

I haven't heard anything about the back room team but the new manager was up over the weekend. I suspect finalising one city man and one glensman - plus taking in a couple of games.

Will Rossa stay up next year?
Last time I checked I had two balls - neither were crystal.

Just wondering, will your balls tell you if the management team will stay on? They have done really well considering the start they had
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 10:35:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
As a Belfast man if it's 4 to be brought up then thats great from the perspective of including Galls & sars.

However as a hurling man - I think the league points show that only the top 2 can make a viable case for division 1 standard. (over the course of a full season - not as a one off obviously!)

Long term - i think its a no brainer.
Top & bottom should be promoted & relegated.
2nd top&bottom play-off at a neutral venue.
Simple.

I haven't heard anything about the back room team but the new manager was up over the weekend. I suspect finalising one city man and one glensman - plus taking in a couple of games.

Will Rossa stay up next year?

I would say it depends on which Rossa!
Bulk of their side out consistently - they will stay up easily.

Too often fielding weakened team with players "away" - then its a dogfight to scramble enough points.

I suppose it depends in the new structures - if there are any?! Which I wouldnt hold out on.
Manballandall I wouldnt say I was dis-satisfied at all, sure I just suggested a new system.
If you mean the 4 teams up, I have it in black and white I would be happy with mroe Belfast teams! Just not sure it would work. And its also in black and white that I think a full compliment of committed Galls can compete.
But this is unlikely over a full season just as it has been in past years - through no fault of their own. Dont know how many times I have to say that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 09, 2012, 11:20:06 AM
I hope we stay in Div 2, 20 point defeats would do nothing for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 09, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
Jim Nelson presented league restructuring proposals last night.  From what our delegate could remember, the proposal was more or less what has been discussed on here i.e. 12 teams in Div 1.

Div 1 - 12 teams (1-way) to include Rossa, Oisin, Galls, Sars (i'd imagine Gort / Lamhs may be slightly annoyed given how little points difference there is to the top 4 and not knowing this was possibly coming)

Div 2 - 8 teams (2-way) remaining div 2 teams plus Ahoghill, Armoy, C'mills, St. Paul's

Div 3 - 8 teams (2-way) remaining div 3 sides plus St. Teresas, C'Dun, G'ravel, Endas

Div 4 - 6 teams (2-way) those left in Div 4

Promotion / Relegation - not sure I got this 100% but think it was bottom 2 in a division play each other to decide who stays up - the loser then plays a game against the winner of a top 2 game in the division below.  So theoretically there could be no relegation / promotion in any given year!

Championship tied to league status (talk that C'ship may be round-robin);

Senior = Div 1
Intermediate = Div 2
Junior = Div 3/4

Clubs were to receive the actual proposals in the next few days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 09, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
for the new league system to work with 12 teams in a one way league, it means for the top teams like Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall etc.. they will only get to play each other once and the balance of their fixtures will be against so called weaker teams.
it wont be great for the top teams unless the other teams up the ante and start to perform.
it wont be great for the weaker teams getting tanked every weak, yes a lot of them can hold their own against each other but in my opinion it will do nothing for the top teams.

the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment and the weaker teams improve their senior teams and underage structures so that on a long term basis they become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.
club treasurers wont be delighted: less big gates against top clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 09, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
Wino, I suspect you are right. Can't see the stronger teams agreeing to these proposals due to the lack of games they will receive against the top opposition. It will also be cutting down the number of big derby games such as Dunloy/Loughgiel, Loughgiel/Ballycastle and Rossa/St Johns.

Leave the leagues the way they are for now, as I feel it is totally unacceptable to make proposals at the end of the season. Honestly couldn't imagine any other county doing it. Let the clubs have their vote, and if passed, implement it for next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 09, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 09, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
Jim Nelson presented league restructuring proposals last night.  From what our delegate could remember, the proposal was more or less what has been discussed on here i.e. 12 teams in Div 1.

Div 1 - 12 teams (1-way) to include Rossa, Oisin, Galls, Sars (i'd imagine Gort / Lamhs may be slightly annoyed given how little points difference there is to the top 4 and not knowing this was possibly coming)

Div 2 - 8 teams (2-way) remaining div 2 teams plus Ahoghill, Armoy, C'mills, St. Paul's

Div 3 - 8 teams (2-way) remaining div 3 sides plus St. Teresas, C'Dun, G'ravel, Endas

Div 4 - 6 teams (2-way) those left in Div 4

Promotion / Relegation - not sure I got this 100% but think it was bottom 2 in a division play each other to decide who stays up - the loser then plays a game against the winner of a top 2 game in the division below.  So theoretically there could be no relegation / promotion in any given year!

Championship tied to league status (talk that C'ship may be round-robin);

Senior = Div 1
Intermediate = Div 2
Junior = Div 3/4

Clubs were to receive the actual proposals in the next few days.

That's only 11 league fixtures in the year, I would consider that to be less than most senior leagues in most counties and not enough to keep club hurlers interested throughout the year.

Go for the 1 way fixtures and split the league into a top/bottom six and then play mini leagues. That'd give an additional 5 fixtures at you standard, giving the better teams more competitive games and reducing the hammering sessions.

Still think if you finish top you should automatically get promoted. Let the second bottom team play the Div2 runners up as someone else suggested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
I agree with HS - win a league and you deserve to go up, come bottom and you deserve to go down.

Play-offs in Winter might be contentious - and also the one way league means an imbalance in home/away games along with less gates for the big games.

Its not perfect but like I said before - neither is what we have got.
That split at half-way is a decent shout JohnnyCool.

I would keep the number of teams in each league the same (possibly change div3&4 where problems exist) and like I said the top&bottom automatically up/down - one off play off at neutral venue for 2nds.

I like the idea of linking league positions to championship somehow - increases the importance of the leagues and creates a balanced championship draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 09, 2012, 01:09:34 PM
agree with both posts above. the clubs rely on the big gates. ours would be v loughgiel, cushendall and ballycastle.

to say give us away to lgiel, lgiel would prob have to get away to cushendall. we would then need cdall at home etc etc. creates a nightmare for the fixtures. also we have football to consider as well into the middle of it, same as rossa and st johns.

nice idea but wouldnt work. clubs need the £££ to stay alive and the home gates v loughgiel esp for our derby game is a big one, and vise versa for loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 01:16:28 PM
think they're missin the point. Its not the league is the problem. They need to do something about the championship. To win the championship Loughgeil played 4 games --- Rossa and  Glenariff from Div 2 and ST Johns and Dunloy. Dunloy played 3 games Ballycastle Cushendall and the final.  9 teams in Senior championship

That looks like it stays the same. If its a round robin is that a 9 team round robin or will the have 2 groups? at least a 9 team round robin gives more games up from 14 league and possibly only 1 championship to 11 league and 8 championship.

edit on the ££££s clubs would lose
and the championship round robin games could be the reverse league fixtures. like if the Town was away to Dunloy in the league part they'd be home in the championship part and so on

assuming that top 4 after round robin would be in semi finals on neutral ground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 09, 2012, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 01:16:28 PM
think they're missin the point. Its not the league is the problem. They need to do something about the championship. To win the championship Loughgeil played 4 games --- Rossa and  Glenariff from Div 2 and ST Johns and Dunloy. Dunloy played 3 games Ballycastle Cushendall and the final.  9 teams in Senior championship

That looks like it stays the same. If its a round robin is that a 9 team round robin or will the have 2 groups? at least a 9 team round robin gives more games up from 14 league and possibly only 1 championship to 11 league and 8 championship.

edit on the ££££s clubs would lose
and the championship round robin games could be the reverse league fixtures. like if the Town was away to Dunloy in the league part they'd be home in the championship part and so on

Do the county board not lift the gate money at championship games in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 09, 2012, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 01:16:28 PM
think they're missin the point. Its not the league is the problem. They need to do something about the championship. To win the championship Loughgeil played 4 games --- Rossa and  Glenariff from Div 2 and ST Johns and Dunloy. Dunloy played 3 games Ballycastle Cushendall and the final.  9 teams in Senior championship

That looks like it stays the same. If its a round robin is that a 9 team round robin or will the have 2 groups? at least a 9 team round robin gives more games up from 14 league and possibly only 1 championship to 11 league and 8 championship.

edit on the ££££s clubs would lose
and the championship round robin games could be the reverse league fixtures. like if the Town was away to Dunloy in the league part they'd be home in the championship part and so on

Do the county board not lift the gate money at championship games in Antrim?

doh!

yes.  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 01:30:44 PM
dont suppose the county would give that up  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
It would be really nice if these proposals could be explained...in terms of how this is going to help the game flourish? Certainly looks like change for change sake. Unless the 4 coming up all feel that they are more than able to compete and commit properly to Div1 hurling then for their own good and the good of everyone else they shouldnt be there.

The concern about losing the compeditiveness of Div1 as it is at present (as much as people will agree/disagree on the standard, most games are well fought) is a valid one I believe. I'd like to hear the committees take on that as well as the loss of gates to clubs.

And as much as we may not like the fact that only 9 clubs play senior championship, the round robin games of the past were far from what you would call 'championship' as you had 2 strong and one weak club in each section with two coming out of it.


Quote from: wino on October 09, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment and the weaker teams improve their senior teams and underage structures so that on a long term basis they become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

+1 ......not a quick and easy fix.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 01:59:28 PM
I can't see the clubs buying it to be fair, Rossa won the league, job done. I think a fairer option is the 2 up, 2 down no play offs.

But I did warn you that plans were being made up, with Jim behind this poposal will Loughgiel reject it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
true enough skull.

but being real we have a 2 tear system anyway. Loughgeil Cushendall and Dunloy and then the rest.

Being biassed Ballycastle might start pushing them in the next year or so and Rossa and St Galls too if they keep there squads together. Have St Johns not some good young lads too. Dont know about Glenariff tho.
But thats all ifs and buts. We can be pretty sure that the top 3 will stay there mostly cos they put the work in and thats where it counts. So I dont know if the county can really do anythin to make things more competative except get teams more games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
It would be really nice if these proposals could be explained...in terms of how this is going to help the game flourish? Certainly looks like change for change sake. Unless the 4 coming up all feel that they are more than able to compete and commit properly to Div1 hurling then for their own good and the good of everyone else they shouldnt be there.

The concern about losing the compeditiveness of Div1 as it is at present (as much as people will agree/disagree on the standard, most games are well fought) is a valid one I believe. I'd like to hear the committees take on that as well as the loss of gates to clubs.

And as much as we may not like the fact that only 9 clubs play senior championship, the round robin games of the past were far from what you would call 'championship' as you had 2 strong and one weak club in each section with two coming out of it.


Quote from: wino on October 09, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment and the weaker teams improve their senior teams and underage structures so that on a long term basis they become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

+1 ......not a quick and easy fix.

Both Dunloy and Loughgiel from minor down haven't been too impressive of late, is that because of poor underage structures? How are the other clubs doing? I know Cushendall have been very steady
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
Both Dunloy and Loughgiel from minor down haven't been too impressive of late, is that because of poor underage structures? How are the other clubs doing? I know Cushendall have been very steady

I our case would have to say yes. More to the point .... not enough will in the adult population to create and be part of the proper structure. Things improving a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on October 09, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
The way I'm reading it is that if it's a 12 team D1 then that =11 games.
The c'ship will be all D1 with round robin, say 2 groups of 6 on a league basis, means whoever in your group you played away, you are then home at this stage. All in between these games you have 16 league/rd robin.
That's 2 extra games, means that clubs near the bottom playing the top teams are less likely to just say 'eff it, we are getting beaten anyway' and home in on teams in and around them.
Does this not mean more competitive and meaningful games throughout the year.
Not sure how the league places will tie in with the round robin groups but say the top 3 and bottom 3 in Group A, then mid 6 in Group B. The likelihood is that C'dall,L'giel and Dunloy will still all play each other home and away anyway.
Top 4 in each qualify for the QFs and are seeded depending where they finish in a group or have open draw, maybe leave it that you can't face a team from your group in QFs or whatever.
The more I think about this I like it but only thing I'm not so keen on is the relegation proposal. Bottom goes down and 2nd bottom maybe playoff v 2nd top in D2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 09, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
**The Down clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 09, 2012, 06:49:09 PM
optimus

as CitySlicker says first off the 12 Div 1 teams include 3 Down teams and next as johnneycool pointed out the clubs lose income cos the county take championship gates.

but hey, Antrim & Galway play in the Leinster championship so maybe the Down teams should play in th Antrim championship. Might be more compative.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
I seriously doubt the down teams are going to give up the down championship as their gateway to ulster. At the minute they have just one game to beat a big gun in Antrim and that's them in an all Ireland semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 09, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post
We have been weak at minor the last few years, but unfortunately for these lads the numbers in their group have always been low. We still seem to be getting lads out of it coming into the senior ranks. Some of our current minors now have a senior championship medal in their collection.
Moving down the age groups we are fairly strong and will mix it with anyone. I've no problems with our underage structures, but as you know it's always a work in progress and we constantly have to look at it as there is always room for improvement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 09, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
I would like to know what the thinking is from the group who put the suggested league formats together, as to how it improves hurling in the county. I don't want to knock it too much until I hear what the thoughts are. I think everyone (including me) should listen to both sides before totally dismissing it. They have spent a bit of time on it so there should be some reasoned arguments for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on October 09, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
I'm sure some agreement could be reached where the clubs keep revenue from round robin and county takes the gate from knockout games.
As for the 3 Down teams, obviously poses a problem and reduces the number to 9, but could the Intermediate winner (Cloughmills) not be allowed to compete at senior, bringing the number to 10 and 2 Groups of 5 instead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post

OK milltown ..I'll rephrase

the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment to improve their senior teams and just as important their underage structures so that on a long term basis more clubs become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: wino on October 09, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post
We have been weak at minor the last few years, but unfortunately for these lads the numbers in their group have always been low. We still seem to be getting lads out of it coming into the senior ranks. Some of our current minors now have a senior championship medal in their collection.Moving down the age groups we are fairly strong and will mix it with anyone. I've no problems with our underage structures, but as you know it's always a work in progress and we constantly have to look at it as there is always room for improvement.

And so do we at minor, and the amount of minor players we have lost over the years that have 2 minor championship medals, 3/4 under 21 and senior is crazy, it doesn't mean anything.

I was just wondering why you and Skull talked about underage teams without actually remembering that you have struggled a bit at those age levels.

I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post

OK milltown ..I'll rephrase

the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment to improve their senior teams and just as important their underage structures so that on a long term basis more clubs become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

Be a wee bit optimistic Skull, as I stated before we have a few lads that are playing senior only, they are out of minor and less exams to worry about, football is still big of course and while we are winning this fooking game it's hard for lads who play both. But we have been doing ok at juvenile with committed lads looking after them.

At under 12 in the next year or 2 we have a great wee squad of kids and a lot of effort has been put into them. Seriously think that wee team will be competing for underage titles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 10:10:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post

OK milltown ..I'll rephrase

the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment to improve their senior teams and just as important their underage structures so that on a long term basis more clubs become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

Be a wee bit optimistic Skull, as I stated before we have a few lads that are playing senior only, they are out of minor and less exams to worry about, football is still big of course and while we are winning this fooking game it's hard for lads who play both. But we have been doing ok at juvenile with committed lads looking after them.

At under 12 in the next year or 2 we have a great wee squad of kids and a lot of effort has been put into them. Seriously think that wee team will be competing for underage titles

:o I was making a general point

I think you know what I mean.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on October 09, 2012, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: wino on October 09, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post
We have been weak at minor the last few years, but unfortunately for these lads the numbers in their group have always been low. We still seem to be getting lads out of it coming into the senior ranks. Some of our current minors now have a senior championship medal in their collection.Moving down the age groups we are fairly strong and will mix it with anyone. I've no problems with our underage structures, but as you know it's always a work in progress and we constantly have to look at it as there is always room for improvement.

And so do we at minor, and the amount of minor players we have lost over the years that have 2 minor championship medals, 3/4 under 21 and senior is crazy, it doesn't mean anything.

I was just wondering why you and Skull talked about underage teams without actually remembering that you have struggled a bit at those age levels.

I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o

Here's a reason why it won't work. Taking your reserves to a strong away team. Doesn't make sense but no doubt this will happen in some cases
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 09, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
Iknow I ignored you the last time Skull, distracted with other things that week, ;) but my concern is clearly the little leaguers and providing an improved chance for progressive clubs to emerge from the whirlpool. I know this has an impact at the top end and the bit that pisses me off is that nobody gives a fcuk what happens as long as div 1 is ok. And so it probably shall remain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 09, 2012, 11:57:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:50:44 PM
But it sort of kills the reasoning behind Wino's post

OK milltown ..I'll rephrase

the only way it will work if all clubs give full commitment to improve their senior teams and just as important their underage structures so that on a long term basis more clubs become more competitive. Maybe that's the long term aim but i remain very dubious.

Sorted that for you there Skull!!! Did anybody hear what Brian Cody said at the homecoming in Kilkenny last Monday week? He said the key reason why Kilkenny have been so successful is down to the great work being done at underage level by all the clubs in Kilkenny. Should hurling people in other counties not listen to that man? Is rearranging the leagues going to help underage development in the clubs in Antrim????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 12:32:52 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 09, 2012, 11:32:14 PM
Iknow I ignored you the last time Skull, distracted with other things that week, ;) but my concern is clearly the little leaguers and providing an improved chance for progressive clubs to emerge from the whirlpool. I know this has an impact at the top end and the bit that pisses me off is that nobody gives a fcuk what happens as long as div 1 is ok. And so it probably shall remain

If the clubs (and their players) coming up into Division 1 feel they are good enough to enjoy learning to compete at that level and have an interest in looking after/respecting the competition properly by at least playing with their strongest squad week in week out, then I wouldnt be griping as much. I just remember what a big 1 way league was like. Would love a Sarsfields man to comment on their last foray in Div1. St Galls on the road were just as bad. Devalues the game IMO

We're all taking perspectives here. For now St Endas are little leaguers but are doing good work low down. How is what I'm whinging about or indeed these proposals affecting youse? Are you saying these proposals are the answer to little leaguers prayers or wha?

And by the way ...I have said I'd like the proposals explained
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
So to collate a few points;

1) If St galls attitude to promotion would be to target certain games and effectively award walk-overs in difficult away games then they should not be in Div1. I can see the stratgey here from a selfish point of view but it completely de-values the leage and the purpose of the competition. Also it hardly develops the game either in Milltown or the county. Especially given the wealth of hurlers there.

2) I have still therefore to hear anything that argues a viable alternative to at most 2teams warranting going up - but plenty of good suggestions on linking league & championship which I think is a must to increase the importance of the league. With the added benefit that it increases the balance of the championship draw.

2) Cody's emphahsis on underage development hits the nail on the head - yes we need our leagues to be competitive etc but if the work is not done before then it's too late to think that effort at senior is going to make up for years of neglect. From this point of view I do remember slating our own development squads - they are a joke. For me development squads are clubs! I know they work in other counties but the fact is that everything I have heard about them here is not exactly positive in terms of improving standards. "Here lads we'll enter this blitz down south and you can keep the rig" I am sorry but I would rather as Cody says they were nurtured by clubs with meaningful competition at home.

3) Last Man is also right we seem to be pre-occupied with making Div1 the be all & end all with little consideration of lower leagues (apologies for that term of being PC!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 10, 2012, 10:24:33 AM
On the face of it the league structures proposed do elevate us to div3 which is what we want, however just recently word has it hurling is finished in Ardoyne and Ballymena so ourselves and Glenravel may well be left behind. Stuff of nightmares tbh. That is my frustration albeit selfish.
When I look back at our season this is the first season in many many years that we have introduced minors to the senior panel who know how to hurl properly. We had 4 starting players on the county, not that this is much to crow about this year but that distraction cost us at both minor and senior this year. We as a club have always promoted the development squads/ county etc providing players and coaching but its getting us nowhere.  We are at long last playing with close to a full deck and enjoying a great run in the championship atm but i'm getting slightly bitter about what might have been in the league had we for example followed St.Johns and looked after ourselves first.
All things considered that's probably what we need to do.
Thats my rant over about life down here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
So to collate a few points;

1) If St galls attitude to promotion would be to target certain games and effectively award walk-overs in difficult away games then they should not be in Div1. I can see the stratgey here from a selfish point of view but it completely de-values the leage and the purpose of the competition. Also it hardly develops the game either in Milltown or the county. Especially given the wealth of hurlers there.

2) I have still therefore to hear anything that argues a viable alternative to at most 2teams warranting going up - but plenty of good suggestions on linking league & championship which I think is a must to increase the importance of the league. With the added benefit that it increases the balance of the championship draw.

2) Cody's emphahsis on underage development hits the nail on the head - yes we need our leagues to be competitive etc but if the work is not done before then it's too late to think that effort at senior is going to make up for years of neglect. From this point of view I do remember slating our own development squads - they are a joke. For me development squads are clubs! I know they work in other counties but the fact is that everything I have heard about them here is not exactly positive in terms of improving standards. "Here lads we'll enter this blitz down south and you can keep the rig" I am sorry but I would rather as Cody says they were nurtured by clubs with meaningful competition at home.

3) Last Man is also right we seem to be pre-occupied with making Div1 the be all & end all with little consideration of lower leagues (apologies for that term of being PC!)

By your own words you have repeatedly said that Rossa aren't great travellers, do they also de-value the league?

Concentrating of home games is what all teams do, if you can win the away games then grand, we won more away games this year in div 2 by the way ;)

Dunloy won 2 games away from home this year, a 1 point win away to St Johns and beat the team that was relegated. What's that say about their performances away from home, did they put any effort in? I could look at other teams but you get my point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
So to collate a few points;

1) If St galls attitude to promotion would be to target certain games and effectively award walk-overs in difficult away games then they should not be in Div1. I can see the stratgey here from a selfish point of view but it completely de-values the leage and the purpose of the competition. Also it hardly develops the game either in Milltown or the county. Especially given the wealth of hurlers there.

2) I have still therefore to hear anything that argues a viable alternative to at most 2teams warranting going up - but plenty of good suggestions on linking league & championship which I think is a must to increase the importance of the league. With the added benefit that it increases the balance of the championship draw.

2) Cody's emphahsis on underage development hits the nail on the head - yes we need our leagues to be competitive etc but if the work is not done before then it's too late to think that effort at senior is going to make up for years of neglect. From this point of view I do remember slating our own development squads - they are a joke. For me development squads are clubs! I know they work in other counties but the fact is that everything I have heard about them here is not exactly positive in terms of improving standards. "Here lads we'll enter this blitz down south and you can keep the rig" I am sorry but I would rather as Cody says they were nurtured by clubs with meaningful competition at home.

3) Last Man is also right we seem to be pre-occupied with making Div1 the be all & end all with little consideration of lower leagues (apologies for that term of being PC!)

By your own words you have repeatedly said that Rossa aren't great travellers, do they also de-value the league?
Yeah, we lost one away game this year. That journey to Sarsfields is a right balax though.

Not your words HS, your fellow Rossa man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Ah now Mr2 - I get accused of being anit-Rossa so ate my humble pie and now I'm jumping on a supposed bandwagon!

Well I will roll with the punches!

Look I understand you see everything from a Galls perspective but I'm able to stand back a bit - I'm not sure teams target games in the way you say. Also if thats what Galls would be doing its just not in the spirit of the league - becasue it affects other teams standing on when they play fixtures (ie) against a strong/weak side. While there will always be an element of this I think its not genuine if thats st galls intentions.

I understand your hope that div1 might encourage galls to commit more to hurling - but bog ball will always be the priority whilst that current side is successful. And you cannot dispute your div2 record this year is not worthy of elevation to div1 - thats just a fact!

Maybe you need to look in a mirror down milltown if you think galls are worthy of promotion at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Ah now Mr2 - I get accused of being anit-Rossa so ate my humble pie and now I'm jumping on a supposed bandwagon!

Well I will roll with the punches!

Look I understand you see everything from a Galls perspective but I'm able to stand back a bit - I'm not sure teams target games in the way you say. Also if thats what Galls would be doing its just not in the spirit of the league - becasue it affects other teams standing on when they play fixtures (ie) against a strong/weak side. While there will always be an element of this I think its not genuine if thats st galls intentions.

I understand your hope that div1 might encourage galls to commit more to hurling - but bog ball will always be the priority whilst that current side is successful. And you cannot dispute your div2 record this year is not worthy of elevation to div1 - thats just a fact!

Maybe you need to look in a mirror down milltown if you think galls are worthy of promotion at the minute.

I've already stated numerous times I hope it doesny go ahead, Ive been trying to get the leagues to go two up two down for years, but to no avail. Football has been doing that for years but those who vote in hurling circles prefer the one up one down method.

Why would I need a mirror?

As for not being sure teams target teams at home, well that's just bullshite, the Down teams (No offence Johnny) will win more games at home and this is where they generate the points to keep them up.

The tactic I was talking about, and at no point did I say we wouldn't travel with a team, was to stifle the tough teams away from home by filling defence and midfield with an extra player or two to close space down, not pretty and sacrifices your scoring, it's very disheartening coming away with 20 point defeats.

Any manager worth his salt looks at the fixture list at the start of the year and looks to see what teams they can beat with the squad available to them. He also sets his stall out for Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Have to totally agree with MR2 and its not very often i do that ;). I have no doubt that St Johns, Ballycastle, the Down teams, and possibly even Dunloy, the Dall and the shamrocks all field stronger teams at home. Playing at home has an advantage and teams try to strengthen this advantage by playing stronger teams at home...its no secret...have a look at this years results , everyone is at it.
Bally cran beat dunloy easy at home yet were beat easy away...

Portaferry drew with loughuile at home yet were beat easy away...
St Johns beat portaferry handy at home yet were beat handy away....

loughuile destroyed ballycran at home yet only by a few away

The list goes on and on...

As MR2 has already said, every team will target their home games as games where they will try and have the strongest team available....nobody travels with a full squad for one reason or another unless of course you can tell me different btdgtt ?

There has also been plenty of heavy defeats dished out in Div 1 this year too...does this mean that we should just restrict the Div 1 to the Top 4 ? bUt there has even been strange results amongst them too...maybe you btdtgtt can explain the following results other than teams not fielding full strength ?

Loughuile beat cran by 18
Dunloy beat castle by 13
Castle beat by 12 at home
Castle beat dunloy by 23
castle beat dall by 8

Interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 10, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM

explain the following results other than teams not fielding full strength ?

Loughuile beat cran by 18
Dunloy beat castle by 13
Castle beat by 12 at home
Castle beat dunloy by 23
castle beat dall by 8


Dunloy beat castle by 13 ----  that was the day after the u-21 final & the Town had 8/9 u-21s on

Castle beat by 12 at home --- that was Loughgeil and it was a dire performance tho we might have been missin 1 or 2

Castle beat dunloy by 23 ---- that was the week before the championship final and Dunloy put out subs and minors

castle beat dall by 8 ----- McManus & McNaughten were in america
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
Thanks for the inside knowledge b&a - I really think u galls boys are reading too much into this targeting games thing. Probably because it fits in with milltown.

Now asides from B&A's points - poor results away from home can also be explained by home advantage, away teams sometimes get straight out of a car and on to a pitch - and let's face it some players are less committed with the game not on their doorstep.

Are we seriously debating why teams do better at home?! I mean look at any sport! You guys are over-thinking this!
I just don't see managers selectively telling players to stay at home because "we are not targeting this game".
Quite frankly it's nonsense.

If galls adopt this strategy it's because of their football situation - dont think for one minute that guys in one code clubs are declining much needed games!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
A lot of our games were fielded by weakened teams this season because of our all Ireland run. We were training non stop for basically 2 years. The team were given the option of resting from March until training started again in June. Some did, some didn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 10, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM

explain the following results other than teams not fielding full strength ?

Loughuile beat cran by 18
Dunloy beat castle by 13
Castle beat by 12 at home
Castle beat dunloy by 23
castle beat dall by 8


Dunloy beat castle by 13 ----  that was the day after the u-21 final & the Town had 8/9 u-21s on So you don't have a strong panel then?
 

Castle beat by 12 at home --- that was Loughgeil and it was a dire performance tho we might have been missin 1 or 2 so was it because your lads thought 'f**k it's Loughgiel don't bother' an so not take the league seriously

Castle beat dunloy by 23 ---- that was the week before the championship final and Dunloy put out subs and minors So didn't take it seriously?

castle beat dall by 8 ----- McManus & McNaughten were in america Cushendalls main players weren't taking prepartion seriously

All clubs have reasons for losing games, christ I could do that all day long. Means nowt really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
No one will be glad to see youse coming in the gate MR2 if youse intend to intentionally travel with a gather up for away games. Give me an ards team every time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
No one will be glad to see youse coming in the gate MR2 if youse intend to intentionally travel with a gather up for away games. Give me an ards team every time

Yeah and I said we'd travel with an intentionally weakened team? Wouldn't need to take a weaken team to Dunloy sure :o

Your losing the point of the argument debate, First off I said that it wouldn't be good for us yet to move up to Div 1 secondly I said that playing the top 2 teams away is difficult and I said we'd need to employ different tactic, packed defence/midfield.

The Rossa poster (not HS) said that we'd be getting tankings from all the teams if we went up, It didn't happen too many times before and I doubt very much it would happen again, looking at the table some teams took a tanking and managed to get to a final.

So if you can find my post were I said we'd travel with a 'gather up' then fine, your post my stand

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o

:o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
Firstly MR2 since u are searching thru posts can u find the one where I said galls would get tanked every time? I already corrected you that I said "sarsfields and others" which did not include galls because I had already dealt with them separately.

Secondly, I believe u spoke of targeting specific games so that else could u mean apart from this new smoke screen thing about packing midfield?! I think other posters have shown the contempt that exists for a team fielding weakend sides and de-valuing the whole league. Mandandball ur fellow galls man actually tried to build an argument that this already happens so its obviously on galls radar. (Loughiel situation in doin this was obviously unique and they nearly won league - congrats dall by the way)

And lastly, I did indeed eat humble pie HS and deservedly so! Rossa frustrate me but I am genuinely happy to see them back at the top table and thing look on the up. MR2 I never wore the jersey if the self-appointed premier club - but friends and a camogie niece let me hop on the div1 bandwagon (sarcasm wiith my man city top on)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
From the county site:

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=3591


Senior Hurling - players meeting


The following players are requested to attend a meeting with Kevin Ryan on Monday 17th October at 7pm sharp at the Dunsilly Hotel.

1   Kevin Barry McShane   Ballycastle   
2   Neal McAuley   Ballycastle   
3   Cormac Donnelly   Ballycastle   
4   Ryan McGarry Ballycastle   
5   Stephen Mc Afee   Ballycastle   
6   Mathew Donnelly   Ballycastle   
7   Sean McLaughlin   Carey Faughs   
8   James Black   Carey Faughs   
9   P J O'Connell   Clooney Gaels   
10   Paul Shiels   Dunloy   
11   Nigel Elliott   Dunloy   
12   James Mc Keague   Dunloy   
13   Kevin Mc Keague   Dunloy   
14   Conor Mc Kinley   Dunloy   
15   Kevin Molloy   Dunloy   
16   Desi Mc Lean   Gortnamona
17   Conor McCann   Kickhams Creggan   
18   Declan Lynch   Lamh Dhearg   
19   Michael Herron   Lamh Dhearg   
20   DD Quinn     Loughgiel   
21   Barney Mc Auley   Loughgiel   
22   Joey Scullion Loughgiel   
23   Eddie Mc Closkey   Loughgiel   
24   Liam Watson   Loughgiel   
25   Chris O Connell     Loughgiel   
26   Johnny Campbell Loughgiel   
27   James Campbell Loughgiel   
28   Ronan Mc Closkey   Loughgiel   
29   Michael Armstrong O Donovan Rossa   
30   Jonathon McGuiness   O Donovan Rossa   
31   Stevie Shannon   O Donovan Rossa   
32   Chris Mc Guinness O Donovan Rossa   
33   Seánán McToal Oisin's   
34   Mark Nulty   Oisin's   
35   Michael Gettens   Oisin's
36   Paddy Mc Naughton   Ruairi Og   
37   Shane McNaughton   Ruairi Og   
38   Neil McManus   Ruairi Og   
39   Arron Graffin   Ruairi Og   
40   Conor Carson   Ruairi Og   
41   Ciarnán Rea   Sarsfields   
42   Mark Rea   Sarsfields   
43   Kevin Mc Kernan   Sarsfields   
44   Darren Hamill   Shane O'Neill's   
45   Conor Laverty   St Brigids C,mills   
46   Michael Devlin   St Brigids C,mills   
47   Kieran McGourty   St Gall's   
48   Karl Stewart   St Gall's   
49   Conal Morgan   St Johns   
50   Colm McFall   St John's   
51   Simon McCrory   St John's   
52   Barry McFall   St John's

They must mean the Monday 15th or Wednesday 17th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2012, 10:12:54 PM
Monday isn't the 17 October !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2012, 10:25:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 10, 2012, 10:12:54 PM
Monday isn't the 17 October !
I hear it's definitely Monday 15th. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 10:47:20 PM
Any glaring omissions?

Not that there should be with 52 named!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o

:o

And you can say the same, re ballycastle

Who doesn't have their strongest teams available for home games?

Again I never mentioned a 'gather up' team but go ahead and make up what ya want
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 11, 2012, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 10, 2012, 10:47:20 PM
Any glaring omissions?

Not that there should be with 52 named!

I would say it is pretty much the same fellas that were there early in the year last year as I am sure Ryan isn't too tuned in to the Antrim club scene yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 11, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 08:26:45 PM


Dunloy beat castle by 13 ----  that was the day after the u-21 final & the Town had 8/9 u-21s on So you don't have a strong panel then?
 

Castle beat by 12 at home --- that was Loughgeil and it was a dire performance tho we might have been missin 1 or 2 so was it because your lads thought 'f**k it's Loughgiel don't bother' an so not take the league seriously

Castle beat dunloy by 23 ---- that was the week before the championship final and Dunloy put out subs and minors So didn't take it seriously?

castle beat dall by 8 ----- McManus & McNaughten were in america Cushendalls main players weren't taking prepartion seriously


All clubs have reasons for losing games, christ I could do that all day long. Means nowt really

If it means nowt why ask questions? But as you did -------

Dunloy beat castle by 13 ----  that was the day after the u-21 final & the Town had 8/9 u-21s on So you don't have a strong panel then?
Means we have a young panel - R McGarry, Cormac D, Neil McA, M Dallat, Pinkie, Cossy and KB McShane would be over 21s who would start ------ should be 2 more but thats a different story and is down to managment decision

Castle beat by 12 at home --- that was Loughgeil and it was a dire performance tho we might have been missin 1 or 2 so was it because your lads thought 'f**k it's Loughgiel don't bother' an so not take the league seriously
no it was because it was a dire performance as well as Loughgeil being better


Castle beat dunloy by 23 ---- that was the week before the championship final and Dunloy put out subs and minors So didn't take it seriously?
Youd have to ask Dunloy

castle beat dall by 8 ----- McManus & McNaughten were in america Cushendalls main players weren't taking prepartion seriously
Youd have to ask Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 11, 2012, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
I can't say that we would be able to ensure we have full squads available for the league campaign but there will certainly be a train of thought to target home games and make sure the strongest team is out. Away games a different tactic would need to be employed. Will the reserves get a game? I might get another run out  :o

:o



And you can say the same, re ballycastle

Who doesn't have their strongest teams available for home games?

Again I never mentioned a 'gather up' team but go ahead and make up what ya want

As far as I know laying aside injury/suspension the Town has tried to put out their strongest team all the time. Other years gettin boys to go down to the Down teams was a push but not this year. They needed there best team out as much as possible to stay up. Theres a different argument about if the best players were actually played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 11, 2012, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Have to totally agree with MR2 and its not very often i do that ;). I have no doubt that St Johns, Ballycastle, the Down teams, and possibly even Dunloy, the Dall and the shamrocks all field stronger teams at home. Playing at home has an advantage and teams try to strengthen this advantage by playing stronger teams at home...its no secret...have a look at this years results , everyone is at it.
Bally cran beat dunloy easy at home yet were beat easy away...

Portaferry drew with loughuile at home yet were beat easy away...
St Johns beat portaferry handy at home yet were beat handy away....

loughuile destroyed ballycran at home yet only by a few away

The list goes on and on...

As MR2 has already said, every team will target their home games as games where they will try and have the strongest team available....nobody travels with a full squad for one reason or another unless of course you can tell me different btdgtt ?

There has also been plenty of heavy defeats dished out in Div 1 this year too...does this mean that we should just restrict the Div 1 to the Top 4 ? bUt there has even been strange results amongst them too...maybe you btdtgtt can explain the following results other than teams not fielding full strength ?

Loughuile beat cran by 18
Dunloy beat castle by 13
Castle beat by 12 at home
Castle beat dunloy by 23
castle beat dall by 8

Interesting

We've never intentionally sent a weaker team to an away fixture, we'll play the strongest 15 available home or away and always have done.

As bggttt suggests its not uncommon for the home team in other sports to have an advantage and hurling is certainly no different, with Casement park being the obvious exception  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 10:32:56 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 11, 2012, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Have to totally agree with MR2 and its not very often i do that ;). I have no doubt that St Johns, Ballycastle, the Down teams, and possibly even Dunloy, the Dall and the shamrocks all field stronger teams at home. Playing at home has an advantage and teams try to strengthen this advantage by playing stronger teams at home...its no secret...have a look at this years results , everyone is at it.
Bally cran beat dunloy easy at home yet were beat easy away...

Portaferry drew with loughuile at home yet were beat easy away...
St Johns beat portaferry handy at home yet were beat handy away....

loughuile destroyed ballycran at home yet only by a few away

The list goes on and on...

As MR2 has already said, every team will target their home games as games where they will try and have the strongest team available....nobody travels with a full squad for one reason or another unless of course you can tell me different btdgtt ?

There has also been plenty of heavy defeats dished out in Div 1 this year too...does this mean that we should just restrict the Div 1 to the Top 4 ? bUt there has even been strange results amongst them too...maybe you btdtgtt can explain the following results other than teams not fielding full strength ?

Loughuile beat cran by 18
Dunloy beat castle by 13
Castle beat by 12 at home
Castle beat dunloy by 23
castle beat dall by 8

Interesting

We've never intentionally sent a weaker team to an away fixture, we'll play the strongest 15 available home or away and always have done.

As bggttt suggests its not uncommon for the home team in other sports to have an advantage and hurling is certainly no different, with Casement park being the obvious exception  :o

I don't know of any team/manager that has ever intentionally sent a weaker team to an away fixture. Targeting home games like I SAID is what teams have done for years. But I noticed Dunloy sent a weaker team to Ballycastle, bit unfair on the other teams who are requiring points. Dunloy could have asked Joe to change the fixture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
I heard a rumour about division 1 taking in 4 new teams. A quick glance at the division 2 tables makes it clear only 2 teams could attempt this standard. Would the next 2 clubs or hurling in general benefit from getting tanked every week? I suppose this is what skull means by dealing in facts not opinions.


I highlighted your post, next two teams being Sarsfields and ourselves. Again I would prefer to go up as champions or with a stronger/bigger panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 10:48:15 AM
I will take that point Mr2 - never afraid to acknowledge if I'm wrong.

Its not something I see you doing here - you have been pulled up on a point and yet keep digging!
And so on that point - if you "target" home games then yes I would fear for your results in away games which are eh... Not targets?!
The fact is simple - over the course of the year Galls to not warrant promotion.
Established teams have no interest in Galls arriving at their ground to fulfill a fixture they did not "target".
Every other poster has shown this notion of targetting/home/away games to be nonsense - you put out your strongest team and do your best in every game.

I think you should stay in div2 - and make an effort for a big show at championship.
This is until your club make a genuine all year round effort at hurling. (which i would love to see)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem.

When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem. When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win

How about every game - or just drop this - every poster has basically blown this argument out of the water.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem. When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win

How about every game - or just drop this - every poster has basically blown this argument out of the water.

Do you live in the real world, will Rossa expect to head to Loughgiel or Cushendall to win the match? They will certainly try their level best as will any team but due to the fact that Rossa aren't up to the standard of beating Loughgiel yet then it's about learning from it and improving the next time youse meet.

You can't be that naive, surely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem. When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win

How about every game - or just drop this - every poster has basically blown this argument out of the water.

Do you live in the real world, will Rossa expect to head to Loughgiel or Cushendall to win the match? They will certainly try their level best as will any team but due to the fact that Rossa aren't up to the standard of beating Loughgiel yet then it's about learning from it and improving the next time youse meet.

You can't be that naive, surely

Its doesnt matter how you try to twist and turn on this one - your talk of "targetting" home/away games is just nonsense.
Every team puts their strongest available team out and "targets" a win in every game.
Leave the rest in Milltown - its not on any other club / posters radar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem. When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win

How about every game - or just drop this - every poster has basically blown this argument out of the water.

Do you live in the real world, will Rossa expect to head to Loughgiel or Cushendall to win the match? They will certainly try their level best as will any team but due to the fact that Rossa aren't up to the standard of beating Loughgiel yet then it's about learning from it and improving the next time youse meet.

You can't be that naive, surely

Its doesnt matter how you try to twist and turn on this one - your talk of "targetting" home/away games is just nonsense.
Every team puts their strongest available team out and "targets" a win in every game.
Leave the rest in Milltown - its not on any other club / posters radar.

You twisted your own words earlier by saying we'd get a tanking and then said you didn't!

If the other posters don't think I'm right in my thinking then that's fair enough. I'm a realist by nature, with a hint of optimism
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
No HS, there are some games that you will try your best to win but you will be up against it, A bit like Antrim playing Tipp in hurling, you put a team out to win but hey, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out what the result will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 11, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
Any1 fancy naming a starting team for the national league out of that list,  with and without shamrocks?  How do we all feel the national league will go with the group were in?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
No HS, there are some games that you will try your best to win but you will be up against it, A bit like Antrim playing Tipp in hurling, you put a team out to win but hey, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out what the result will be.

Tipp and Antrim arent in the same division for the reasons you imply (but didnt explicitly say  :P) . I'm not doubting the difficulties st galls might have fielding consistently and competing with integrity throughout the league...just don't expect everyone to accept thats its OK when you land down the road with a team not capable of competing properly. If thats whats going to happen then youse should opt out of entry to Div1 and enjoy Div2 knowing that full strength youse can give manys a team a good rattle. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 01:32:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
No HS, there are some games that you will try your best to win but you will be up against it, A bit like Antrim playing Tipp in hurling, you put a team out to win but hey, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out what the result will be.

Tipp and Antrim arent in the same division for the reasons you imply (but didnt explicitly say  :P) . I'm not doubting the difficulties st galls might have fielding consistently and competing with integrity throughout the league...just don't expect everyone to accept thats its OK when you land down the road with a team not capable of competing properly. If thats whats going to happen then youse should opt out of entry to Div1 and enjoy Div2 knowing that full strength youse can give manys a team a good rattle.

I have already stated that plenty times!!! We won't be able to yet, but again not down to me and if it were I'd say hold out for a year and try and win the thing with committed hurlers. Our footballers (as a clubman) hopefully will have an extended run at the Ulster Championship. New football manager in place now at County (another Galls man) will no doubt be looking at players like Burkey Healy Aidso and CJ to join the panel, another bloody strain on the hurling team, as these games are played weekend of hurling games and based on what training they put in place (one year Baker had training on Wednesdays during hurling league games)

So based on that alone we won't be able, hopefully the committie look at the extending circumstances and come up with a logical approach!!!

Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
Again I have consistently said that we would prefer to go up as champions, nowhere in my posts have I said any different, we don't have a big panel and need time, if ever, to be able to compete in div. Wanting to bed players in div 1 requires staying div 1, those lads need to have that experience and they won't get it being a yo-yo team. So If we target games to win and gain enough points to stay up then I don't see the problem. When I have taken teams I have always tried to have the strongest team available, harder than you think and when you get to take a senior team in the future you will see the complexities of trying to get all your players out. Not like back in the day where everyone was mad keen to play every game and not have half arsed excuses.

Rossa may not have this problem as they have good minor teams and under 16 teams coming through the next couple of years, but if they manage to come straight back down then the standard will drop for them and they will be in the dog fight of getting out of div 2 again.

Good championship performances are based on playing big teams week in week out. We hit Dunloy and shocked them and nearly shocked Cushendall but that was a flash in the pan and while it was good it really has went back a lot since then. Regularly playing div1 will improve us a lot better, so staying there is important. After a while we will be able to go to Cushendall and Loughiel and give a good account of ourselves and nick the odd win

How about every game - or just drop this - every poster has basically blown this argument out of the water.

Do you live in the real world, will Rossa expect to head to Loughgiel or Cushendall to win the match? They will certainly try their level best as will any team but due to the fact that Rossa aren't up to the standard of beating Loughgiel yet then it's about learning from it and improving the next time youse meet.

You can't be that naive, surely

Its doesnt matter how you try to twist and turn on this one - your talk of "targetting" home/away games is just nonsense.
Every team puts their strongest available team out and "targets" a win in every game.
Leave the rest in Milltown - its not on any other club / posters radar.

You twisted your own words earlier by saying we'd get a tanking and then said you didn't!
If the other posters don't think I'm right in my thinking then that's fair enough. I'm a realist by nature, with a hint of optimism

The difference I make is bewteen being competitive if Galls field full team (which I would be delighted to see)
OR
Getting tanked because Galls didnt "target" a game

Now like the rest of the posters - its really simple, everyone gets the picture - and I'm getting bored of it.
So that'll do from me on the topic - I'm away to change my Man City top to a Rossa jersey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o

Fed up hearing it :) ....sure we've slayed a few Div1 fball teams in days gone by ourselves. Even the mighty Galls (before they got really really good) fell on our Div2 sword  ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o

Fed up hearing it :) ....sure we've slayed a few Div1 fball teams in days gone by ourselves. Even the mighty Galls (before they got really really good) fell on our Div2 sword  ;)

Ok for now I'm going to talk about other things, I'm slightly biased no doubt, I've a view internally of how I'd like to see the club go hurling wise, it may not be popular but I'm not out to make friends.

Collectively all clubs need to take it up to the required standard. Loughgiel are the benchmark in hurling and Cross are the benchmark in football, these clubs have something that's working. Style, workrate, and belief. A steady enough conveyor belt of talent coming through which keeps the hunger up. All good ingredients of champions.

Untill we and the rest have that, then Antrim won't be producing teams that will compete at County level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 11, 2012, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o

Fed up hearing it :) ....sure we've slayed a few Div1 fball teams in days gone by ourselves. Even the mighty Galls (before they got really really good) fell on our Div2 sword  ;)

Ok for now I'm going to talk about other things, I'm slightly biased no doubt, I've a view internally of how I'd like to see the club go hurling wise, it may not be popular but I'm not out to make friends.

Collectively all clubs need to take it up to the required standard. Loughgiel are the benchmark in hurling and Cross are the benchmark in football, these clubs have something that's working. Style, workrate, and belief. A steady enough conveyor belt of talent coming through which keeps the hunger up. All good ingredients of champions.

Untill we and the rest have that, then Antrim won't be producing teams that will compete at County level

and so say all of us Milltown, and so say all of us...for hes a...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Collectively all clubs need to take it up to the required standard. Loughgiel are the benchmark in hurling and Cross are the benchmark in football, these clubs have something that's working. Style, workrate, and belief. A steady enough conveyor belt of talent coming through which keeps the hunger up. All good ingredients of champions.

Untill we and the rest have that, then Antrim won't be producing teams that will compete at County level

My belief is that because we are minnows at IC level, the top hurlers from the top clubs feel that they will get more recognition representing their clubs as a county championship and a run in the all ireland series is always a possibiliy. In the top counties you could be a great club hurler but never get any decent recognition of your craft if your from one of the countless teams in that county who will never win a county title. Its seen as a huge honour to be selected out of a massive playing population and seems to be they all grab their opertunity with both hands. In Antrim theres a could take it or leave it attitude to a call up as theres an almost certain pointlessness to it. That attitude exists in the supporters as well (myself included  :-\ )

The way the IC championship is set up and the popularity of the AI club series, I reckon Antrim wont break much delft in the years ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 11, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o

Fed up hearing it :) ....sure we've slayed a few Div1 fball teams in days gone by ourselves. Even the mighty Galls (before they got really really good) fell on our Div2 sword  ;)

Ok for now I'm going to talk about other things, I'm slightly biased no doubt, I've a view internally of how I'd like to see the club go hurling wise, it may not be popular but I'm not out to make friends.

Collectively all clubs need to take it up to the required standard. Loughgiel are the benchmark in hurling and Cross are the benchmark in football, these clubs have something that's working. Style, workrate, and belief. A steady enough conveyor belt of talent coming through which keeps the hunger up. All good ingredients of champions.

Untill we and the rest have that, then Antrim won't be producing teams that will compete at County level

One other thing that works for these clubs is they are free to concentrate on a single code.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 11, 2012, 03:40:43 PM
Best of luck to Kevin Ryan and the initial names that he has released. I just hope he realises what he has got himself in for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
I dont think we're unique
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: aontroim on October 11, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Yeah but teams from other divisions can sometimes beat bigger teams Skull, sure you know that :o

Fed up hearing it :) ....sure we've slayed a few Div1 fball teams in days gone by ourselves. Even the mighty Galls (before they got really really good) fell on our Div2 sword  ;)

Ok for now I'm going to talk about other things, I'm slightly biased no doubt, I've a view internally of how I'd like to see the club go hurling wise, it may not be popular but I'm not out to make friends.

Collectively all clubs need to take it up to the required standard. Loughgiel are the benchmark in hurling and Cross are the benchmark in football, these clubs have something that's working. Style, workrate, and belief. A steady enough conveyor belt of talent coming through which keeps the hunger up. All good ingredients of champions.

Untill we and the rest have that, then Antrim won't be producing teams that will compete at County level

One other thing that works for these clubs is they are free to concentrate on a single code.

Yeah and for Antrim to compete we also need single code clubs, there I said it, I'll be hung drawn and quartered when I go back the the club.

How many of the big tradional clubs down south are dual clubs? I can think of St Joes from Clare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 11, 2012, 07:36:38 PM
Oh I do hate in when we agree MR2!

Dungiven may claim success but are they a true dual club.
The like of Kilmacud crokes operate as a dual club but without dual players.
Even big counties like cork & Galway have hurling areas and football area.

I might record the date because on this point I totally agree with MR2.

By the way - that's not to say dual club shouldn't be proud to be so - even more the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 12, 2012, 12:35:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2012, 01:47:27 PM

Yeah and for Antrim to compete we also need single code clubs, there I said it, I'll be hung drawn and quartered when I go back the the club.

How many of the big tradional clubs down south are dual clubs? I can think of St Joes from Clare

Ever heard of St Finbarrs MR2? But anyway to be honest MR2 you have sidetracked the whole debate on here for the last day or two. The simple question was will restructured all county leagues develop hurling in Antrim? Thats basically what is coming out of this hurling committee proposal and for me the answer is no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 12, 2012, 06:36:58 AM
Word from NA is that the proposals will not get off the ground so not much point in discussing further lads. Div 1 is alright, all is well with the world. ::). Next topic...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
There's only 4 senior Div1 NA clubs and by my reckoning 14 non Div 1 NA clubs. I don't believe that NA collectively would be able to agree what to do. Each club will have their own position.


And why have these proposals been thrown out without a bit more detail explaining the motivations for change? Clubs may not be in possession of all the relevant points and will simply take a self interest decision. The county board should know that and communicate what they feel clubs should also be considering when weighing up as well as take on board clubs concerns (e.g.reduced gates). They are important factors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 12, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
The considered opinion of the NA div board is to reject them. Ourselves and I assume Cushendun, and Glenravel would be feeling cut loose by this but as I have said before no real surprise.
It's every club for themselves down here I suppose. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 12, 2012, 08:45:31 AM
There may not be any changes to the hurling league/championship structures this year but there needs to be!

We shouldn't care about who is in what league until first deciding a structure. At a high level without too much detail here is my view.

The league you play in dictates the grade of championship (ridiculous that we have this bye law where teams can choose what level of championship they want to play in).

Division 1 - Senior Championship.

We need at least 8 antrim teams in this league to have 2 groups of 4 (open draw to decide groups). Each team has 3 matches and top 2 into semi finals. All matches in group stage are at neutral grounds. If we could get 10 antrim teams and 2 groups of 5 all the better. I don't like to make comparisons to soccer but champions league format works so why should we think we have better ideas! I have also seen this format work in other counties.

There would also be relegation finals. Bottom two teams in each group play a  relegation final and loser is moved down a grade.

Division 2 - Intermediate Championship

Same format as above with maybe 10/12 teams. 2 groups of 6 could mean top 4 in each group go into quarter finals rather than just top 2 into semis.

Division 3 - Junior Championship

Same as Intermediate.

Division 4 - Junior B Championship

Dependant on numbers but hopefully follow same format.


Negative points:

There will be 'pointless' games in the group stages depending on group draw.
Increased volume of games and clashes with football etc. However, if we had one way leagues that would help.
No provision for reserve teams in these proposals.

Positives:

Group draw would be exciting. Imagine drawing one senior group with the big four in it. We would have some group battles that year.
Relegation battles would keep teams in championship mode right throughout the summer.
More championship hurling is surely a good thing.

That was harder to explain than I thought!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 09:30:08 AM
Was going to use the St Finbarrs from Cork argument myself, but then reevaluated and decided that during that period of time being a dual player was much easier. There are still mostly the same problems in place such as work and family commitments, but now the train that is required to succeed at both is too much. Single code clubs that are lucky enough to win all Ireland titles are totally devoted to that cause.

This automatically gives them an advantage over a team that may have to spread their week between hurling and football. Often is the case that this club will only have one pitch, so teams can't even go on the same night. Players become tired and 'bored' if they are out on consecutive nights with different codes.

MR2 has a point, maybe this should come from above at county level to try and put propositions in place where these type of clubs could exist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
There's only 4 senior Div1 NA clubs and by my reckoning 14 non Div 1 NA clubs. I don't believe that NA collectively would be able to agree what to do. Each club will have their own position.


And why have these proposals been thrown out without a bit more detail explaining the motivations for change? Clubs may not be in possession of all the relevant points and will simply take a self interest decision. The county board should know that and communicate what they feel clubs should also be considering when weighing up as well as take on board clubs concerns (e.g.reduced gates). They are important factors

I suppose the obvious questions to ask are;

what is the problem these draft proposals are meant to resolve?

How will they resolve them?


I can see how round robin championship games may be appealing but ultimately they can turn out to have as many meaningless games as the league its meant to replace.
Just because you give it the name of championship doesn't necessarily mean that its remotely close to championship competitiveness.

If using league positions to seed the draws can be complicated by us Down clubs, do you include points obtained against us or not? As already seen a lucky league draw where you get the big teams at home where you've more chance of picking up points can skew it a bit, but ultimately you'll still get the Loughguiles, Cushendalls, Dunloys, Ballycastle making the semi-final spots more often than not.

If we've learned anything from the backdoor in the AI series is that it suits the strong counties more than it does the weaker ones as can be seen by Kilkenny this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
I really dont understand where a lot of you are coming from.....to go back to MR2 argument, and apologies for doing so, but i dont believe that any team deliberately sends out a weakened team, other scenarios dictate so as we can see by the reasons given by black and amber for their weakened sides.
The reason MR2, and he can correct me here if im wrong, said that st galls would target home games in particular is because we would already have an advantage of palying at home so we would try and make the most of it and try to ensure that we have our strongest team out. Now of course we will always strive to have our strongest team out but for talk sake a player says due to work committments he cant play every match then im sorry if i was manager of a team id tell him to make himself available for the home games specifically.
Now of course we should strive to win every game and i dont think anybody can accuse st galls of not trying to do that no matter who they are playing or what team they have out.
But the simple fact is that for st galls, sarsfields, rossa, glenariff and i could throw in st johns, ballycastle, ballygalget the cran etc its all about survival until we can build a squad that is capable of challenging for league honours home and away. Do you not think Glenariff benefited from the stints in div 1, brief as they were, ? Of course they did. St Johns the same and also the down teams. I have no doubt that if any of the 4 teams spouted as being promoted could manage to survive a year or 3 in division 1 then the standard of hurling in that club would improve. Playing in div 1 would have a positive knock on affect on the underage teams and so the cyle improves and continues.
How is this not beneficial to antrim hurling ?
Admittedly there will be a few tankings along the way but isnt that already the case as already highlighted, even amongst the top 4. I have no doubt and can understand the frustration this might pose for the mighty shamrock and dall players and supporters but if given time this in the long run could benefit antrim hurling in my opinion.

AS mr2 has already said, we would rather go up as champions but if we get the opportunity to play div 1, we will take it and do our upmost to survive there for a year or 2 and hopefully in that time improve our own standads. If that means targeting home games as a more realistic chance of gaining points then cest la vie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 10:14:19 AM
I really dont understand where a lot of you are coming from.....to go back to MR2 argument, and apologies for doing so, but i dont believe that any team deliberately sends out a weakened team, other scenarios dictate so as we can see by the reasons given by black and amber for their weakened sides.
The reason MR2, and he can correct me here if im wrong, said that st galls would target home games in particular is because we would already have an advantage of palying at home so we would try and make the most of it and try to ensure that we have our strongest team out. Now of course we will always strive to have our strongest team out but for talk sake a player says due to work committments he cant play every match then im sorry if i was manager of a team id tell him to make himself available for the home games specifically.
Now of course we should strive to win every game and i dont think anybody can accuse st galls of not trying to do that no matter who they are playing or what team they have out.
But the simple fact is that for st galls, sarsfields, rossa, glenariff and i could throw in st johns, ballycastle, ballygalget the cran etc its all about survival until we can build a squad that is capable of challenging for league honours home and away. Do you not think Glenariff benefited from the stints in div 1, brief as they were, ? Of course they did. St Johns the same and also the down teams. I have no doubt that if any of the 4 teams spouted as being promoted could manage to survive a year or 3 in division 1 then the standard of hurling in that club would improve. Playing in div 1 would have a positive knock on affect on the underage teams and so the cyle improves and continues.
How is this not beneficial to antrim hurling ?
Admittedly there will be a few tankings along the way but isnt that already the case as already highlighted, even amongst the top 4. I have no doubt and can understand the frustration this might pose for the mighty shamrock and dall players and supporters but if given time this in the long run could benefit antrim hurling in my opinion.

AS mr2 has already said, we would rather go up as champions but if we get the opportunity to play div 1, we will take it and do our upmost to survive there for a year or 2 and hopefully in that time improve our own standads. If that means targeting home games as a more realistic chance of gaining points then cest la vie.

One of those "brief stints" was for 7 years, until 2009 if my memory is correct. It's only the last few years we have been a yoyo team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
And did the standard of hurling improve within your club ?

Did antrim not benefit from your stint in div 1 ?

So from all that post , thats all you could pick up on or add to ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:15:09 AM
Keep Div 1 and 2 the way they are. 1 up and 1 down. 2nd from top and bottom play off. Adds a bit more meaning without radical changes that aren't needed. Also change championship. 1 match at that intensity each year isn't going to be enough to improve standards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.

How small is the catchment area of Glenariffe?

I'd say we've a smaller catchment area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.
Nobody is arguing that they played at a good level and known glenariff they will have given a 100% in every game. My argument is that playing in div improves the standard within that club and in doing so improves the standard within the whole county....so if we have an additional 3 teams playing div 1 then that same scenarion would/should apply to them too so we have even more teams playing at a higher standard. It might take a year or 3 to get there but it will improve year year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2012, 11:41:22 AM
Quote from: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
And did the standard of hurling improve within your club ?

Did antrim not benefit from your stint in div 1 ?

So from all that post , thats all you could pick up on or add to ::)

I am pretty sure I have had this discussion with you before so there is no point in doing it again, you won't change my mind and vice versa, but for us in that period we had a strong team (by our standards), being in Div 1 wasn't some sort of magic cure for us, we improved the standards in our club, had a good age profile, about 7 or 8 fellas in their early 20's and a few more experienced hands. We have lost quite a few in the last few years through retirement and haven't been able to replace them. We have very little coming through and I would guess we will be a middling Div 2 team in the next few years.

Skull has made my point for me a few times, Sarsfields tenure in Div 1 a few years ago, did nobody any good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 12, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
Champions league style championship was tried before. It didn't work as there loads of pointless games and some heavy hammering a for clubs. No one benifits.

The league structure was used before. We were top that year winning all out games, won our semi and lost the final to a team who lost 4 games that year to our one, the final.  Waste of time.

Current league structure works. It isn't broke. It doesn't need fixing.

Championship needs more teams. Too many teams are content with being in the intermediate championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2012, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.
Nobody is arguing that they played at a good level and known glenariff they will have given a 100% in every game. My argument is that playing in div improves the standard within that club and in doing so improves the standard within the whole county....so if we have an additional 3 teams playing div 1 then that same scenarion would/should apply to them too so we have even more teams playing at a higher standard. It might take a year or 3 to get there but it will improve year year

Division 1 is not a magic cure. Just because you play against better teams it does not necessarily make you better.

The league in division 2 is very competitive at the top end. The better teams in 2 should be putting everything in to aspire to get to division 1.  It just seems that there are people who feel that division 1 will all of a sudden give focus to their team. Why are teams not focused in getting promotion in the first place?

The main problem with leagues of eight teams is for the high end of division 4 as Last Man stated and not for the division 2 teams. In that case awful hammerings are being dished out and no-one is learning anything. In division 2 is that really the case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2012, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.
Nobody is arguing that they played at a good level and known glenariff they will have given a 100% in every game. My argument is that playing in div improves the standard within that club and in doing so improves the standard within the whole county....so if we have an additional 3 teams playing div 1 then that same scenarion would/should apply to them too so we have even more teams playing at a higher standard. It might take a year or 3 to get there but it will improve year year

Division 1 is not a magic cure. Just because you play against better teams it does not necessarily make you better.

The league in division 2 is very competitive at the top end. The better teams in 2 should be putting everything in to aspire to get to division 1.  It just seems that there are people who feel that division 1 will all of a sudden give focus to their team. Why are teams not focused in getting promotion in the first place?

The main problem with leagues of eight teams is for the high end of division 4 as Last Man stated and not for the division 2 teams. In that case awful hammerings are being dished out and no-one is learning anything. In division 2 is that really the case?

Spot on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 12, 2012, 12:01:13 PM

Championship needs more teams. Too many teams are content with being in the intermediate championship.

And a possibility of a run in the AI intermediate series rather than wanting to play senior championship!

Its understandable to an extent that a club may want to do that, but I think you need a strong county board to prevent teams who could and should be competing in the senior taking the easier option for silverware. I'm not so sure you have that in Antrim as can be seen by the number of times the leagues change back and forth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 12, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
Champions league style championship was tried before. It didn't work as there loads of pointless games and some heavy hammering a for clubs. No one benifits.

The league structure was used before. We were top that year winning all out games, won our semi and lost the final to a team who lost 4 games that year to our one, the final.  Waste of time.

Current league structure works. It isn't broke. It doesn't need fixing.

Championship needs more teams. Too many teams are content with being in the intermediate championship.

Right so let me get this right then....you dont want any more teams in div 1 because of teh hammerings they will get yet you want more teams in the championship ?....so teams play all year in div 2 then you want them to play senior championship...and they wont get a hammering /. What good is that to anyone ?
Where as if there were more teams plying their trade in div 1, playing against higher quality teams week in and out then they might stand a better chance in the championship. No?

And sorry minder you must have me confused with someone else unless my memory is deserting me. Would one of thos better players you had have played at corner back ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 12, 2012, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 12, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 12, 2012, 12:01:13 PM
Champions league style championship was tried before. It didn't work as there loads of pointless games and some heavy hammering a for clubs. No one benifits.

The league structure was used before. We were top that year winning all out games, won our semi and lost the final to a team who lost 4 games that year to our one, the final.  Waste of time.

Current league structure works. It isn't broke. It doesn't need fixing.

Championship needs more teams. Too many teams are content with being in the intermediate championship.

Right so let me get this right then....you dont want any more teams in div 1 because of teh hammerings they will get yet you want more teams in the championship ?....so teams play all year in div 2 then you want them to play senior championship...and they wont get a hammering /. What good is that to anyone ?
Where as if there were more teams plying their trade in div 1, playing against higher quality teams week in and out then they might stand a better chance in the championship. No?

And sorry minder you must have me confused with someone else unless my memory is deserting me. Would one of thos better players you had have played at corner back ;)

+1
Undisputable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on October 13, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
Antrim Senior Hurling Championship 2013 Idea

This is my idea for next years Championship (dates are only a guide by the way):

10 teams - Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, St Johns, Glenariffe, Ballycastle, Cloughmills, Rossa, Sarsfields and St Galls.

Open draw played on 1st weekend of August (3rd and 4th) with 5 winners through to the 1/4 finals.

5 losing teams play then in a round robin system through the rest of August with the top 3 then through to the 1/4 finals.

RD 1 -  10th and 11th August (Team 1 v team 2 and team 3 v team 4)
RD 2 -  14th and 15th August (team 5 v team 1 and team 2 v team 3)
RD 3 - 21st and 22nd August (team 4 v team 5 and team 1 v team 3)
RD 4 - 24th and 25th August (team 2 v team 4 and team 5 v team 3 )
RD 5 - 28th and 29th August (team 1 v team 4 and team 2 v team 5)


1/4 finals on w/e 7th and 8th September.

Semi finals on 17th and 18th September

Final 29th September. 


I think this way might work and give the 5 losing teams more games and then give them a chance of providing a shock or 2 come the knock out stages.  Also everyone gets a minimum of 2 games!!

Also I know it could be a bit of a problem regarding Gaelic Football fixtures for the CCC but I think it has a chance.

Any thoughts/tweaks etc  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 13, 2012, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 12, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 12, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I would argue that Glenarrif played at a decent level over those years. For a club of their relative small size, seven years (if correct) in a row in the top flight is not a bad achievement. Dwindling numbers and rural location will always prevent them from challenging for major honours.

How small is the catchment area of Glenariffe?

I'd say we've a smaller catchment area.
About 1800 people in Glenariffe. Traditionally would have people from some outlying areas but talking about selection from total of 2000 people (remove non-eligble players; women, elderly etc. you arent talking about a very big pool to draw from).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2012, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
What's the craic with their underage teams? I may be having a blank here but I don't remember ever seeing them play.

Cause they play in the NAL (North Antrim Leagues) maybe Tony could answer that better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2012, 10:44:10 PM
But you wouldn't have played Cloughmills, shane O'Neils or the lesser lights, Cushendun also on that list of 2nd div minor teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2012, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 13, 2012, 10:49:53 PM
Remember those teams, maybe not Glenarm right enough. But, Jaysis, surely we'd have met them at some blitz or something?

Like the question asked a couple of weeks back. Do McDermotts have underage teams?

No, they (McDees) did in my day, but when I played the north Antrim teams it was only the main ones. Can't mind playing anybody bar the main teams, even at Blitz's. I also played All County minor for 2 years, Derry teams in it also but no other teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2012, 09:42:01 AM
North Antrim is divided into 2 grades at underage, the A Grade being - Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycastle, St Brendan's etc. Glenariff play in the B Grade - Glenarm, Rasharkin, Sean Stinsons, Creggan, Larne etc. A few Dunloy underage teams were playing in the B grade until recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!

Middletown should have won the All Ireland last year at Intermediate level if they have done any work since then they would be decent enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!

Middletown should have won the All Ireland last year at Intermediate level if they have done any work since then they would be decent enough
we played them in a warm up before the all Ireland, semi. Put 5-25 past them. I'd think we'd field our strongest team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!

Middletown should have won the All Ireland last year at Intermediate level if they have done any work since then they would be decent enough
That may be so but they are missing a couple of players and I watched them scrape past Cuchullains in the county final. They are very much an intermediate team and I just hope they keep within double figures of the Shamrocks today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Portaferry stuffing swatragh. 20 points to 1-6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!

Middletown should have won the All Ireland last year at Intermediate level if they have done any work since then they would be decent enough
That may be so but they are missing a couple of players and I watched them scrape past Cuchullains in the county final. They are very much an intermediate team and I just hope they keep within double figures of the Shamrocks today.

Whats happened to Keady? Christ they were a strong team at that level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Yous two boys must be ancient.  :P
What sort of outfit fielding for Ulster? Hardly risk the top boys against Middletown!

Middletown should have won the All Ireland last year at Intermediate level if they have done any work since then they would be decent enough
That may be so but they are missing a couple of players and I watched them scrape past Cuchullains in the county final. They are very much an intermediate team and I just hope they keep within double figures of the Shamrocks today.

Whats happened to Keady? Christ they were a strong team at that level
Still there or thereabouts. Used to be Middletown and Keady fighting it out but would say there is little to separate them and Cuchullains as each year passes. Senior championship in Armagh one semi-final and a bye and Middletown beat Keady so wouldnt read too much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 14, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Wasn't there a serious digging match in the Armagh hurling championship this year?
Shamrocks beware!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2012, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 14, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Wasn't there a serious digging match in the Armagh hurling championship this year?
Shamrocks beware!
Keady v Middletown in county semi. Locally rivalry spilling over and are not rough by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
Ht. 12 - 5 to shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2012, 06:02:15 PM
Thurles. Oulart. De la salle. All won   Portumna beat by 2  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 15, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
Portaferry stuffing swatragh. 20 points to 1-6.

Ports were a bit worried about this one as Swatragh were an unknown entity to them and it's been a while since a Down club team have had it easy against one. They'll be content enough with that victory.

The Ports seem to be building as they go, not very impressive against us and struggled against Ballycran who I thought were the better team for long spells, but the Ports got three goals in as many minutes at the start of the second half and held out for the win without doing anything spectacular.

Loughguile will have one eye already on an AI semi-final in February and should have enough for the Ports, who do seem to do rightly against Loughguile in the league, but championship is a different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 10:24:10 AM
We won with a good bit in hand, changed the team up a bit as well which should keep the lads fresh and on their toes.

I fancied Portaferry for the other game but they won with more to spare than I thought.

Portaferry on their day have caused us a few problems in the past but I'd fancy us to win by 6 or 7 points provided the lads approach it right.

Does anyone have any betting for the hurling Club Championship?

Thurles Sarsfields looked handy yesterday and I think Oulart are going to have a big say this year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
Portumna out, and by all accounts is was a ding dong battle, Have been impressed with the Galway Championship the last few years with the winners changing so much lately.

Loughgiel, should they beat Portaferry, will be looking forward to whoever they play and will be confident regardless Portumna being there or not.

The big guns in Munster and Leinster still about so still plenty of interest about.

Thurles have blown up every year so I wouldn't say they will be the ones to watch north antrim gael
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 15, 2012, 10:44:41 AM
Can never get my head around how that Thurles team aren't competing for All Irelands year in year out, individually they are up there with the likes of Ballyhale, Portumna and Newtownshandrum. Even that auld character Redser made an appearnace yesterday in what was a great game.

How is the Kilkenny county championship going?

Can't see Loughgiel being stopped in Ulster. Fancy them to make it to another All Ireland final but to loose out to the Leinster champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 12:54:10 PM
Ourlart has underachived IMO as past few years.  But looked good in Wexford final yesterday.   If our lads get past portaferry and put the same effort in as last year, they have a chance of another final.  That tipp outfit look the team to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
The tipp teams always flatter to deceive, look great but when the pitches get heavier and the opposition a little tougher they dont seem to count, well in recent years anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:13:54 PM
Your right as past few years nag.  But I  think there a different team now.   Alot of county stars on that team.   Good few of them in around 24/25 also.  So maybe has took them 3/4 years to get it going.   Anyhow.  Some day of GAA yesterday  14 county finals and a load more 1/4 and semi finals. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2012, 01:15:01 PM
never understood that one myself about the tipp club teams. they never seem to do well in munster at all.
too early yet to decide whos the team to watch at the min as now its into winter hurling and the tough teams will make it through now.
lgiel will be favourites to retain their title,well up here they are, tho the southern media will make some other team the favourite solely based on the county they come from for some unknown reason!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Loughgiel will not be favorites.  There will be at least 4 maybe 5 teams at the minute ahead of them.   Rightly so.  Sure we beat no1 last year :o.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 01:26:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2012, 01:15:01 PM
never understood that one myself about the tipp club teams. they never seem to do well in munster at all.
too early yet to decide whos the team to watch at the min as now its into winter hurling and the tough teams will make it through now.
lgiel will be favourites to retain their title,well up here they are, tho the southern media will make some other team the favourite solely based on the county they come from for some unknown reason!

If LG are fortunate enough to get past Portaferry I still don't think they will be favourites against the Galway champions and to be honest I'd be happy with that scenario.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Since 1970/71 ony 4 teams have retained the AI Club Hurling title. 

- Sarsfields
- Athenry
- Birr
- Portumna

That stat alone tells the story, thats 1 retention every 10 years or so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2012, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Since 1970/71 ony 4 teams have retained the AI Club Hurling title. 

- Sarsfields
- Athenry
- Birr
- Portumna

That stat alone tells the story, thats 1 retention every 10 years or so.

Timing really is everything isnt it Realist!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 15, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
Its incredible to think Dunloy played, and either drew or beat every team on that list!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:54:17 PM
Timing nag.   A dall team at it's peak played a piss poor Galway team, and had an average enough Waterford team beat. And didn't time either that well. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:54:17 PM
Timing nag.   A dall team at it's peak played a piss poor Galway team, and had an average enough Waterford team beat. And didn't time either that well.

Was referring to the list which was above and would agree with you on both counts!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
Its incredible to think Dunloy played, and either drew or beat every team on that list!

What's incredible is that they managed to beat (or holding Birr to a draw) all of them at some point but never managed to win the All Ireland given what the line up of teams they did beat.  The drawn game is the one which I'm sure irks Dunloy people as the rest of the finals were very one sided.

I was at all of the games (apart from the Newtonshandrum) one and they could never seem to get a real foothold in the games.

Remember the year they beat Athenry (in Clones I think when J. Cunning got the winning goal) some atmosphere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 15, 2012, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Loughgiel will not be favorites.  There will be at least 4 maybe 5 teams at the minute ahead of them.   Rightly so.  Sure we beat no1 last year :o.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 15, 2012, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Loughgiel will not be favorites.  There will be at least 4 maybe 5 teams at the minute ahead of them.   Rightly so.  Sure we beat no1 last year :o.

+1
apart from the munster and leinster champions of course.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2012, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 15, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 15, 2012, 01:48:18 PM
Its incredible to think Dunloy played, and either drew or beat every team on that list!

What's incredible is that they managed to beat (or holding Birr to a draw) all of them at some point but never managed to win the All Ireland given what the line up of teams they did beat.  The drawn game is the one which I'm sure irks Dunloy people as the rest of the finals were very one sided.

I was at all of the games (apart from the Newtonshandrum) one and they could never seem to get a real foothold in the games.

Remember the year they beat Athenry (in Clones I think when J. Cunning got the winning goal) some atmosphere.
Have been at every all Ireland club game we have played. Seen great wins and heartbreaks along the way.
95 was very painful as we had it in the bag at half time. 96 was tough to take as well as we played brilliant in the semi final win over glenmore at Croke park only to lost in the final again.
Worst defeat for me was sarsfields replay when they had 2 sent off and we lost. That was very disappointing.
But some great wins over mout sion ESP was a brilliant match.
Antrim clubs never get enough credit over the border in hurling when we have never disgraced ourselves and have held our own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 15, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
Loughiel 10/3favs
Ballyhale 7/2
Thurles 7/1
De la salle 7/1
Oulart 12/1

Loughiel odds skewed somewhat because bookies consider them in all-Ireland semi already where others will have big games just to get that far.
But favourites they are!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 05:24:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 15, 2012, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Loughgiel will not be favorites.  There will be at least 4 maybe 5 teams at the minute ahead of them.   Rightly so.  Sure we beat no1 last year :o.

+1
apart from the munster and leinster champions of course.  :D
Oh aye.  That's right :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2012, 05:24:46 PM
Hah! Use will listen to me yet! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 15, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
Loughiel 10/3favs
Ballyhale 7/2
Thurles 7/1
De la salle 7/1
Oulart 12/1

Loughiel odds skewed somewhat because bookies consider them in all-Ireland semi already where others will have big games just to get that far.
But favourites they are!
Should IMO nearly be other way around
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2012, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2012, 05:24:46 PM
Hah! Use will listen to me yet! Lol
How's a lad suppose to make money there realist??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2012, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 15, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
Loughiel LoughGiel10/3favs
Ballyhale 7/2
Thurles 7/1
De la salle 7/1
Oulart 12/1

Loughiel LoughGiel odds skewed somewhat because bookies consider them in all-Ireland semi already where others will have big games just to get that far.
But favourites they are!
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 15, 2012, 06:43:08 PM
U have humble apologies SiE.
But I can't promise auto correct wont make the same mistake again.


That said - I am not sure antrim teams would normally be favs at this stage regardless of easier path to semi.
Therefore it's either recognition of last years achievement - or someone is putting money on eh... The shamrocks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 15, 2012, 06:43:08 PM
U have humble apologies SiE.
But I can't promise auto correct wont make the same mistake again.


That said - I am not sure antrim teams would normally be favs at this stage regardless of easier path to semi.
Therefore it's either recognition of last years achievement - or someone is putting money on eh... The shamrocks!

Easier path to semi, but the Galway Champions, whoever they are will not be taking Loughgiel lightly and Loughgiel won't be thinking cause Portumna are out they may get to the final again.

Should Loughgiel account for Portaferry they will have to up whatever effort they put into the winter last year and add it by at least 15/20 percent. Nothing better than lining up for an All Ireland run, the players will be well pumped up and whatever aches and pains that they have at the min will be well forgotten with when they get the break after Ulster final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2012, 07:54:36 AM
I used to dread the Galway champions as it usually meant anthenrye, sarsfields or portumna etc. with it likely to be a (dare I use this phrase) lesser team, with no recent record in the all Ireland series then loughgiel will be favourites. They should be favs.
But this is based on them beating the ports in the final. They should do so IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Sure, no matter who we play, and perhaps beat, they'll be poor opposition. According to some of the "experts" on here anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
There's the little matter of the ulster final to take care of first.

If Loughgiel have one eye on the semi then they could be beaten.

The big question I would have IF Loughgiel go through is whether they can bring the same intensity to the all ireland series as they did last year. While they obviously played some good hurling to win it the biggest thing for me was their work rate and the pressure they put the other teams under. Can they replicate that is the big question.

They need to even if it is slightly more unfancied galway opposition.

Assuming they beat Portaferry which is not a given...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Sure, no matter who we play, and perhaps beat, they'll be poor opposition. According to some of the "experts" on here anyway.  ::)

Just the facts SIE, Cushendall should have beat De La Salle, Youse should have beat the Limerick champs before it went to extra time and the last Munster team to win was in 2004 and before that 89!!

Don't get to worked up about it, twice All Ireland Champions and on the road again to another. As for a weak team coming out of Galway, I don't think so, Gort, St Thomas's and Mullagh will be well capable of putting up a show, and as for the team that beat Portumna? well, say's it all really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 17, 2012, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Sure, no matter who we play, and perhaps beat, they'll be poor opposition. According to some of the "experts" on here anyway.  ::)

lol, yous are easy wound up over that.

i dont wear rose tinted glasses like some and am well aware of the strength of teams we have played and our reasons for not crossing that line be it our fault or beyond our control.

IMHO yous played two very average teams, but who cares, i would gladly play two Minor teams to win an all-ireland.

Good luck in the Ulster Final (which i think yous will win by 8 or more) and the AI-Semi against whatever crap team comes out of Galway  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179379

This might stoke a few fires but what about outide ref's for Antrim?
Maybe a few southern refs might be encouraged to ref our games in exchange for a night in a hotel and a hot dinner?
Minimal cost given the benefits it might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling and if nothing else we wont have any bias, perceived or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179379

This might stoke a few fires but what about outide ref's for Antrim?
Maybe a few southern refs might be encouraged to ref our games in exchange for a night in a hotel and a hot dinner?
Minimal cost given the benefits it might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling and if nothing else we wont have any bias, perceived or not.

Can't blame referees all the time, some lads can't take a tackle and want to lash out our 'get him back' later. Not enough men playing the game in my opinion :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 17, 2012, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179379

This might stoke a few fires but what about outide ref's for Antrim?
Maybe a few southern refs might be encouraged to ref our games in exchange for a night in a hotel and a hot dinner?
Minimal cost given the benefits it might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling and if nothing else we wont have any bias, perceived or not.

Can't blame referees all the time, some lads can't take a tackle and want to lash out our 'get him back' later. Not enough men playing the game in my opinion :o

I can understand that local refs might be a bit peeved to be refereeing all year and then come the showcase final be overlooked for an outsider no matter how high profile and big the dinner is, however the lad who refereed the Down final had never refereed a senior game in his life up until that point, he referee's Div1 and 2 in Down and never refereed an Antrim league Div1 game.

Thankfully his lack of experience wasn't tested in a pretty pedestrian game which lacked a cutting edge and he'd no effect on the end result as the Ports 3 goal barrage but the game to bed early in the second half.

In this type of scenario I'd be on for bringing in an outside referee.

MR's point is also very valid when we talk of referee's 'letting it go' as the players need to buy into it as well or we end up with melee's all over the shop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2012, 03:33:28 PM
Most of the refs I've no problem with. One I do, I won't name him but I find him to be poor for us every time he has refed a few games this past while.
Other than I want consistency from them and not to be all doing diff things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.

2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 17, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
There's the little matter of the ulster final to take care of first.

If Loughgiel have one eye on the semi then they could be beaten.

The big question I would have IF Loughgiel go through is whether they can bring the same intensity to the all ireland series as they did last year. While they obviously played some good hurling to win it the biggest thing for me was their work rate and the pressure they put the other teams under. Can they replicate that is the big question.

They need to even if it is slightly more unfancied galway opposition.

Assuming they beat Portaferry which is not a given...
I was including Portaferry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 17, 2012, 10:43:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179379

This might stoke a few fires but what about outide ref's for Antrim?
Maybe a few southern refs might be encouraged to ref our games in exchange for a night in a hotel and a hot dinner?
Minimal cost given the benefits it might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling and if nothing else we wont have any bias, perceived or not.

Can't blame referees all the time, some lads can't take a tackle and want to lash out our 'get him back' later. Not enough men playing the game in my opinion :o

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 17, 2012, 10:46:36 PM
Any word on the hurling meeting Monday night? Good turnout? Much said?

Good luck to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 18, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
He'll need luck to be sure.....but he'll need a bit more enthusiasm and co-operation from clubs and players more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.
2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!

But you have this insane belief that the referees down south will encourage our lads to hurl like men from down south, silly statement.

Southern style hurling will only be achieved when clubs coach their kids to be quicker, more skillfull and not lose the rag when they get hit (hard but fair) on the ball. When that happens then we (referees) can ref a game like down south. Just my view you don't have to agree with it :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.
2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!

But you have this insane belief that the referees down south will encourage our lads to hurl like men from down south, silly statement.Southern style hurling will only be achieved when clubs coach their kids to be quicker, more skillfull and not lose the rag when they get hit (hard but fair) on the ball. When that happens then we (referees) can ref a game like down south. Just my view you don't have to agree with it :o

Another wild assumption on your part - you should try reading posts for what they are without looking to nit-pick.

I don't believe this at all - but I do believe that southern style reffing is one element and one part to play.

Obviously most of this is done thru coaching and attititudes to taking/giving physical play - but none of that would be any use without the souther style reffing.

Too often refs up here say they would like to conduct a game in the southern way - but players are not capable of conducting themselves.
I am not saying I dont understand this but it's a seriosuly inhibiting factor - how will we ever adapt if refs wont even give players the chance. Too often we hear two hurls slap together in a pull - and automatically a ref blows his whistle!
Too often our refs cannot tell the difference between a shoulder tackle and a barge into the chest or a push in the back.
Now MR2 - yes - players are even more so to blame here at times!
The point is it cannot ever change until refs penalise wrong tackles and allow fair tackles.

And the simple fact is this - importing refs into our league/championship games cannot do anything but improve standards.
I have no doubt central council would subsidise this - so what have we got to lose?
I say again - better to light a candle than curse the dark.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.
2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!

But you have this insane belief that the referees down south will encourage our lads to hurl like men from down south, silly statement.Southern style hurling will only be achieved when clubs coach their kids to be quicker, more skillfull and not lose the rag when they get hit (hard but fair) on the ball. When that happens then we (referees) can ref a game like down south. Just my view you don't have to agree with it :o

Another wild assumption on your part - you should try reading posts for what they are without looking to nit-pick.

I don't believe this at all - but I do believe that southern style reffing is one element and one part to play.

Obviously most of this is done thru coaching and attititudes to taking/giving physical play - but none of that would be any use without the souther style reffing.

Too often refs up here say they would like to conduct a game in the southern way - but players are not capable of conducting themselves.
I am not saying I dont understand this but it's a seriosuly inhibiting factor - how will we ever adapt if refs wont even give players the chance. Too often we hear two hurls slap together in a pull - and automatically a ref blows his whistle!
Too often our refs cannot tell the difference between a shoulder tackle and a barge into the chest or a push in the back.
Now MR2 - yes - players are even more so to blame here at times!
The point is it cannot ever change until refs penalise wrong tackles and allow fair tackles.

And the simple fact is this - importing refs into our league/championship games cannot do anything but improve standards.
I have no doubt central council would subsidise this - so what have we got to lose?
I say again - better to light a candle than curse the dark.

This is complete rubbish.

Soon as you import a Ref from the south the take care of a game up here, you lose the guys that are doing it week in week out. Would you be interested in doing something every other night of the week, to then have the legs cut from below you by parachuting someone in from outside? I for one dont think so.

The point is that the 'southern' style of reffing is bacially to ignore the rules and just let pretty much anything go. However, when it comes to reffing Northern teams vs Southern teams, the southern refs invariably will foul and penalise the players for something that the week previous or week after they wouldnt dream of blowing. Like it or not this is fact and something I have witnessed for a fair number of years now.

I would have no problem with at the start of every year, all mentors from minor up say being invited to a workshop style meeting with the referees where they could chat with the refs and go through scenarios of play on a video screen, so that both sides get a better understanding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 18, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.
2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!

But you have this insane belief that the referees down south will encourage our lads to hurl like men from down south, silly statement.Southern style hurling will only be achieved when clubs coach their kids to be quicker, more skillfull and not lose the rag when they get hit (hard but fair) on the ball. When that happens then we (referees) can ref a game like down south. Just my view you don't have to agree with it :o

Another wild assumption on your part - you should try reading posts for what they are without looking to nit-pick.

I don't believe this at all - but I do believe that southern style reffing is one element and one part to play.

Obviously most of this is done thru coaching and attititudes to taking/giving physical play - but none of that would be any use without the souther style reffing.

Too often refs up here say they would like to conduct a game in the southern way - but players are not capable of conducting themselves.
I am not saying I dont understand this but it's a seriosuly inhibiting factor - how will we ever adapt if refs wont even give players the chance. Too often we hear two hurls slap together in a pull - and automatically a ref blows his whistle!
Too often our refs cannot tell the difference between a shoulder tackle and a barge into the chest or a push in the back.
Now MR2 - yes - players are even more so to blame here at times!
The point is it cannot ever change until refs penalise wrong tackles and allow fair tackles.

And the simple fact is this - importing refs into our league/championship games cannot do anything but improve standards.
I have no doubt central council would subsidise this - so what have we got to lose?
I say again - better to light a candle than curse the dark.

This is complete rubbish.

Soon as you import a Ref from the south the take care of a game up here, you lose the guys that are doing it week in week out. Would you be interested in doing something every other night of the week, to then have the legs cut from below you by parachuting someone in from outside? I for one dont think so.

I really dont think our refs are going to throw the toys out of the pram because maybe one or two league games in each round are done by an outside ref? That is rubbish - hell our boys might be happy enough to be exported to another county themselves for a hot dinner and a night in a hotel for them and their other half.

The point is that the 'southern' style of reffing is bacially to ignore the rules and just let pretty much anything go. However, when it comes to reffing Northern teams vs Southern teams, the southern refs invariably will foul and penalise the players for something that the week previous or week after they wouldnt dream of blowing. Like it or not this is fact and something I have witnessed for a fair number of years now.

I fully agree with this - but I blame this on a mindset /  bias which is removed when both teams are northern!
By the way - some city teams might argue that North Antrim refs do the same when officiating them!

I would have no problem with at the start of every year, all mentors from minor up say being invited to a workshop style meeting with the referees where they could chat with the refs and go through scenarios of play on a video screen, so that both sides get a better understanding.

Yeah - thats not a bad idea. But I would worry its benefits might be short lived compared to refs up for a couple of games in each round.

Guys its simple - I am not saying all our refs are crap and are to blame for our hurling - not at all. The first thing there is our players. I think some of our refs do a great job - no question about that.
But this initiative is being tried in other counties - why not us.
Why do we want to bury our heads in the sand - like I said we have nothing to lose.
U never know - It just might bring some benefits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 18, 2012, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
1) again mr2 u insist on taking ur own slant from a post. I didn't blame refs on anything?! If u mean my comment on bias - only a fool would suggest we don't have biased ref(s) in Antrim.
2) regarding players also having a role - I fully agree. But refs conducting the game right can only help this over time.

3) johnnycool I Also agree about big games - was thinking of this as a constant throughout the league. Given the minimal expenditure I have no doubt croke park would fund it as part if their lip device to northern hurling. And if a homegrown ref does the championship final maybe he will have less baggage!

4) realist I think most teams would settle for consistency within one game never mind between refs!

But you have this insane belief that the referees down south will encourage our lads to hurl like men from down south, silly statement.Southern style hurling will only be achieved when clubs coach their kids to be quicker, more skillfull and not lose the rag when they get hit (hard but fair) on the ball. When that happens then we (referees) can ref a game like down south. Just my view you don't have to agree with it :o

Another wild assumption on your part - you should try reading posts for what they are without looking to nit-pick.

I don't believe this at all - but I do believe that southern style reffing is one element and one part to play.

Obviously most of this is done thru coaching and attititudes to taking/giving physical play - but none of that would be any use without the souther style reffing.

Too often refs up here say they would like to conduct a game in the southern way - but players are not capable of conducting themselves.
I am not saying I dont understand this but it's a seriosuly inhibiting factor - how will we ever adapt if refs wont even give players the chance. Too often we hear two hurls slap together in a pull - and automatically a ref blows his whistle!
Too often our refs cannot tell the difference between a shoulder tackle and a barge into the chest or a push in the back.
Now MR2 - yes - players are even more so to blame here at times!
The point is it cannot ever change until refs penalise wrong tackles and allow fair tackles.

And the simple fact is this - importing refs into our league/championship games cannot do anything but improve standards.
I have no doubt central council would subsidise this - so what have we got to lose?
I say again - better to light a candle than curse the dark.

Maybe letting 4 teams get promoted might improve standards ?....like you say better to light the candle than curse the dark ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2012, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 17, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179379

This might stoke a few fires but what about outide ref's for Antrim?
Maybe a few southern refs might be encouraged to ref our games in exchange for a night in a hotel and a hot dinner?
Minimal cost given the benefits it might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling and if nothing else we wont have any bias, perceived or not.

I'm replying to your post, not nit picking, You said 'might bring in encouraging a more southern style hurling' I am saying that it won't.

Coaching our kids to be better, committed, skilled and honest hurlers will certainly improve this. Bringing a referee from Westmeath (both did all Irelands this year) won't improve this.

I refereed a game where i let the hard tackles go, game turned into a blood bath, won't bother with that again, untill i see a vast improvement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 18, 2012, 01:12:12 PM
I've said it before on here, I will say it again.

Firstly, most referees in Antrim will not adopt the southern approach - there are far too many all-out brawl merchants still about, who want to do nothing but have a digging match at the first sign of a tough challenge.

Generally, players in the strong hurling counties will give big hits, but the difference is that they can take the big hits, dust themselves down & get on with it. That does not happen in Antrim.

Secondly, this is the way Antrim referees are trained...."blow the first foul you see. If you see a foul, you must blow it". That came from a man who refereed an All-Ireland final, by the way, so I would respect his experience & his advice.

Thirdly, parachuting referees in to do big games could work, but only if it was the case that it was a recriprocal arrangement & the higher standard referees  in Antrim got to do the bigger games in other counties. Getting a championship final is usually recognition for a job well done during the season & without any incentive, you soon won't have any referees at all. Then what happens?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 01:14:30 PM
I agree - players attitudes and coaching is the most improtant factor - but I think this might be a help. Simple.

If I thought 4 teams going up would improve standard I would support that too - simple.

I think inviting southern refs (not for champ final if keeps domestic refs happy) is a good idea, I dont agree that promoting 4 teams  is - simple.
Altho as a Belfast man I wouldnt be too annoyed if it happens!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 18, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 01:14:30 PM
I agree - players attitudes and coaching is the most improtant factor - but I think this might be a help. Simple.

If I thought 4 teams going up would improve standard I would support that too - simple.

I think inviting southern refs (not for champ final if keeps domestic refs happy) is a good idea, I dont agree that promoting 4 teams  is - simple.
Altho as a Belfast man I wouldnt be too annoyed if it happens!

In your own words though with regards the refereeing you could apply the same logic to the 4 team scenario ..."like I said we have nothing to lose. U never know - It just might bring some benefits."

The referees arent the problem...as already stated by previous posters...a lot of players when they take a big fair hit just want to lash out....until that mindset is put right it wont matter who is refereeing.

If outside referees were brought in now you can be guaranteed they would be a lot of serious rows that would develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
I did agree on the point about players attitudes already.
Yes - its just opinion. My oprinion is pro inviting refs and against 4teams up.
If I was proved wrong so be it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
Kind of a random question lads but since it is really quiet, has anyone got any good genuine suggestions for KR to develop a real sense of togetherness and cohesion within what can sometimes be a fractured squad?

We might not be the best squad in the country but if we are the best that we can be then, we can't ask much else from him or the squad.

So any suggestions/ ideas of how he can develop this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2012, 07:11:14 PM
Just in for 15 minutes for a quick bite........and then more drink!

Reserve Cup to the Town 2-15 to 1-16

and beat Dunloy St Johns Cushendall and Loughgeil to get it

u-21 & Reserve champonships to the Town this year. like to think thats promisin  ;D

well done to them boys!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 20, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
Fair play to the town,   I feel that they are where we were 10/11 years ago.   A talented squad growing and plenty of expectations,  just have to put head down and put a hell of alot of hard work in.  Be good for the county if ballycastle were really challenging again.   Not that am complaining at the moment.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on October 20, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Great to see the progress made by McQuillans this year under Michael McShane and Joe Cassidy. U21's and reserves are the feeder teams for the seniors and I hope to see the town back at the top of the pile in the next year or two. With 100% commitment to the cause and the talent at their disposal, I think they will do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2012, 10:06:39 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2012, 07:11:14 PM
Just in for 15 minutes for a quick bite........and then more drink!

Reserve Cup to the Town 2-15 to 1-16

and beat Dunloy St Johns Cushendall and Loughgeil to get it

u-21 & Reserve champonships to the Town this year. like to think thats promisin  ;D

well done to them boys!

Well done to ballycastle, think like sg said now is the time for the hard work, obvious that a lot of good players there, think rossa and johnnies in same boat. Just need to put the head down and believe in the boys around you.

Winners will always win because they believe they will. That's the mindset that's needed and if the three clubs mentioned could really get to the level (and above) of the current top three then the county championship and the county itself would go to the next level. Competing to win not competing to compete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2012, 10:38:42 PM
How far off the big 3 are ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
Prob just in the head that they arnt top 3. and that can make a big difference. I watched rossa get pipped by Dunloy  during late 90's early 2000's . To everyone they seemed streets ahead but rossa had a great young team that kept running them really close but couldn't get over the line ( in the lead til last few mins on a few occasions) but the difference was that Dunloy knew or believed they would win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 20, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on October 20, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Great to see the progress made by McQuillans this year under Michael McShane and Joe Cassidy. U21's and reserves are the feeder teams for the seniors and I hope to see the town back at the top of the pile in the next year or two. With 100% commitment to the cause and the talent at their disposal, I think they will do it.
it takes more than a year or 2 IMO,  the one thing ballycastle miss with all this youth, is a few leaders.  if 6 or 7 of these young lads had came about when pinky or ronan donnelly were in there prime, mixed youth with experience would of been a proper team,   but it all takes time,   and of course   BELIEF ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on October 21, 2012, 12:00:44 AM
The town did it before with a mix of experience and youth. When their team of the late 70's broke through they had 7/8 minors on the team, but you are right SG it takes the experience to make it happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
Congrats to the town. Well deserved. Did it the hard way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2012, 09:59:44 AM
On another note, players not in the reckoning for Antrim but should be.

1- Kevin McQuillan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 21, 2012, 04:57:19 PM
 ??? Seriously?   IMO couldnt make a difference.  Not saying he's a bad player.  Plenty of them out there.   Decent but not county material players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 21, 2012, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 20, 2012, 07:11:14 PM
Just in for 15 minutes for a quick bite........and then more drink!

Reserve Cup to the Town 2-15 to 1-16

and beat Dunloy St Johns Cushendall and Loughgeil to get it

u-21 & Reserve champonships to the Town this year. like to think thats promisin  ;D

well done to them boys!

Yes well done indeed to the reserves. We have had some beatings over a long number of years at reserve so particualrly delighted for some of the lads who have soldiered away over the years and have got their reward now. Thats 2 adult county titles in one year, the first time the club have done that since '86. The seniors werent far away against Dunloy and put in some good performances in the league so all in all a good season imo.

Strong again at u21 next year (only lose 1 from this year) so hopefully we make a big push to win that again. Need to keep working hard over the next couple of years at senior and then we should be in a position to really challenge for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 22, 2012, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 21, 2012, 04:57:19 PM
??? Seriously?   IMO couldnt make a difference.  Not saying he's a bad player.  Plenty of them out there.   Decent but not county material players.
man of the match against us first league game of the season. I think he plays his heart out every game. The  sort of player Antrim could do with.

2. Shay casey 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 22, 2012, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 21, 2012, 04:57:19 PM
??? Seriously?   IMO couldnt make a difference.  Not saying he's a bad player.  Plenty of them out there.   Decent but not county material players.
man of the match against us first league game of the season. I think he plays his heart out every game. The  sort of player Antrim could do with.

2. Shay casey

This should be standard for all players and is definitely not a recommendation for County level hurling.

Also number 2, Too light to progress past the level he is at, IMHO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Gael on October 23, 2012, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 18, 2012, 10:20:38 AM
He'll need luck to be sure.....but he'll need a bit more enthusiasm and co-operation from clubs and players more.

Starting with your own club Bushwhacker.  Is it true there were no players from your club at the recent meeting, great enthusiasm and co-operation there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 23, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
I really don't like discussion about players not on County Panels, its a case of sticking decent players names forward for others to shoot them down.  If I was cynical I waould say a Loughgiel man starting the discussion with a Dunloy man as his reference knows this!

As for the player him, Kevin has improved immeasurably as last two years, previously more noted for his football and on the County Panel that reached the Ulster Final.  He is exactly the type a style of player Antrim need, athletic and strong ball winners in the half forward line.  After Eddie McCloskey and Neal McManus I can't think of too many more half forwards as capable of winning their own ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 10:25:29 AM
From the eternal whispers around - I hear it looks like 2 teams going up from Div1 to Div2? Anyone else hear this?

Basically the Glens clubs black-balled the suggestion of 4 teams promoted, but are willing to support 2 going up.

As I said before I see the merits here but no doubt a few of my fellow city lads will note some suggestion of geographical bias here?!

Belfast team promoted - so lo and behold bring a NA team up as well?
Promote 4? Not if the other 2 are from the city?!

Like I have said I suppose I do agree with this given the points tally in Div2 but I'm sure our Galls friends (and Sars) will not - and as for the Oisins Minder?
Have your friends in the Glens not given you a massive foot up here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
Where does one go with such an incomprehensible post ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 23, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 10:25:29 AM
From the eternal whispers around - I hear it looks like 2 teams going up from Div1 to Div2? Anyone else hear this?

Basically the Glens clubs black-balled the suggestion of 4 teams promoted, but are willing to support 2 going up.

As I said before I see the merits here but no doubt a few of my fellow city lads will note some suggestion of geographical bias here?!

Belfast team promoted - so lo and behold bring a NA team up as well?
Promote 4? Not if the other 2 are from the city?!

Like I have said I suppose I do agree with this given the points tally in Div2 but I'm sure our Galls friends (and Sars) will not - and as for the Oisins Minder?
Have your friends in the Glens not given you a massive foot up here?

This is only rumours

When ever we see the suggestions put out by the focus group (or whatever they call themself) no one will know what is going to happen.

Also before anything is agreeded 70% of the clubs must vote in agreement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Yeah was thinking that myself  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
Yes that true - this group will put a proposal together - but it will need passed by the 70% or whatver the number is.

However, I believe there's a bit of behind the scenes stuff where by the group will tailor their recommendation so the big NA clubs will vote in favour rather than lose face / waste time. Maybe somewhat of a compromise. All clubs have already been given the opportunity to feedback.
Obviously football clubs will go with the flow.

But as you say Minder / NAG time will tell once the rumours are replaced by something concrete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
Behind the scenes goings on in Antrim ? People have been hung for less
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Was there not a motion passed at an annual convention a couple of years ago that decreed that any agreed changes to league formats would not take place until the end of the following years competitions. This was I believe brought in after Ballycastle got staying in division 1 a few years ago.

Are these proposals not running rough shod over this very acceptable motion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 01:29:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Was there not a motion passed at an annual convention a couple of years ago that decreed that any agreed changes to league formats would not take place until the end of the following years competitions. This was I believe brought in after Ballycastle got staying in division 1 a few years ago.

Are these proposals not running rough shod over this very acceptable motion?

I think if you look at the small print there is a by law that states that it purely depends on what teams are affected ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO

Well I will let Hardstation answer that in case I am a bandwagon jumper - and I dare say MR2 and manandball might offer some replies also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO

Well I will let Hardstation answer that in case I am a bandwagon jumper - and I dare say MR2 and manandball might offer some replies also.

Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:18:39 PM
Maybe thats why I left it to my fellow city gaels!
Time will tell for the city teams I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO

Well I will let Hardstation answer that in case I am a bandwagon jumper - and I dare say MR2 and manandball might offer some replies also.

Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc.
That rules out glenariff then as they came second in the league albeit to a belfast team and fielded a weakened team due a stag party (how dare they)...so no one promoted then.
Comical
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO

Well I will let Hardstation answer that in case I am a bandwagon jumper - and I dare say MR2 and manandball might offer some replies also.

Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc.
Nag look back at my previous posts and see some of the scores recorded in Div 1 this year...hardly competitive. Although excuses/reasons were given your statement above says this isnt allowed or acceptable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Very good manandball!
Yes I think the teams affected  and subsequent changes in structure have been a little more than coincidence in years gone by!
I wonder had a city team have finished 2nd to Glenarriffe would we be seeing any changes at all?
Or if the 3rd placed team was from the Glens might we see more promoted?

But like I said before - I can see merit in 2up on this occasion regardless of geography.

Skull - the rule you are talking about was passed but it included a clause which dictated that changes could be immediate if a hifgher percentage (not sure exact figure) was in favour rather than plain majority.

We have had this debate back and forward, you name me a team that could/ will compete in Div 1 from Belfast? St Johns are holding their own literally on home form alone, the M2 seems to have a serious effect on them.

Unless they are ready to compete and be competitive all through the league games then they have no place in Div1. IMO

Well I will let Hardstation answer that in case I am a bandwagon jumper - and I dare say MR2 and manandball might offer some replies also.

Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc.
Nag look back at my previous posts and see some of the scores recorded in Div 1 this year...hardly competitive. Although excuses/reasons were given your statement above says this isnt allowed or acceptable.

Manballandall,

You are missing the point, there is a hue and cry about this division and about the city teams not being included. My point is that there is no coincidence between the fact the the 3 teams LG, CDall and Dunloy finish top each year. Its because they work the hardest at training they are the most committed and they are competitive in 99 percent of their league games.
Of course every player/ team are entitled to a holiday and stag party here and there, but the point is these are rare occasions that they affect the teams toward the top of the table.

So by your reasoning, by opening the division up to another crop of weaker teams this is going to improve the overall standard? Can you imagine the score lines next year if this is the case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:45:39 PM
"teams that will compete week in week out "

NAG I think manandball has a point in that outside the top3 - none of the other teams are competing week in week out - thats is that every other side is taking a beating at some point for some reason.

Using this, maybe Galls think they too could gather together enough points to warrant their place, in perhaps a simialr way to teams outside the top3.

I am not necessarily supporting this view as I would (as argued in the whole "target games" debate) like to see a genuinely competitive div1 and div2 (like if championship depended on it) - but this is a DISCUSSION board after all.

Like I said tho - it cant just be coincidence that any year of re-structuring has consistently resulted in the favour of Glens teams or the detriment of city team - FACT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
Then split the league, Div1 A and Div1 B after a first round of games. Obviously the city teams will be in the bottom half so won't have to travel up the M2 ;) and the NA Antrim teams will have those competitive games at the business end of things. Or based on your points just have Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy in Div 1

I don't think Galls will miss not going up or Glenariffe either for that matter. Sarsfields won't want to go up. So let it be but change it to two two down the following year, so everyone knows what to expect. Simple, now back to work!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
Then split the league, Div1 A and Div1 B after a first round of games. Obviously the city teams will be in the bottom half so won't have to travel up the M2 ;) and the NA Antrim teams will have those competitive games at the business end of things. Or based on your points just have Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy in Div 1

I don't think Galls will miss not going up or Glenariffe either for that matter. Sarsfields won't want to go up. So let it be but change it to two two down the following year, so everyone knows what to expect. Simple, now back to work!!


Not a bad suggestion MR2 - tongue firmly in cheek on the end positions although maybe the split might bring about more competitive games. Lesser teams get to pit themselves against the stronger teams to improve, and the big guns still get their own little party at the business end.
Glenarrife will go up from2nd thanks to their Glens friends and battle to stay up - Galls will be Galls.
The Paddies however would like to go up from talking to Keevo he sees it as necessary to keep players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
Then split the league, Div1 A and Div1 B after a first round of games. Obviously the city teams will be in the bottom half so won't have to travel up the M2 ;) and the NA Antrim teams will have those competitive games at the business end of things. Or based on your points just have Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy in Div 1

I don't think Galls will miss not going up or Glenariffe either for that matter. Sarsfields won't want to go up. So let it be but change it to two two down the following year, so everyone knows what to expect. Simple, now back to work!!

Not my point MR2 and you know it, my point is the arguement to try and improve the league in general simply cant be made by adding inferior teams (leagues dont lie) to the mix?

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
I know, I've my view on things, right or wrongly but I've a very strong view on the 2 up 2 down situation. Keeps 8 team leagues fighting during the league for most of the year. Bottom 4 trying to finish strong and training up to the end and top 4 of the other league fighting for the final two places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 03:21:08 PM
"Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc."

Who were you referring to NAG1 ?

Are you saying that Rossa nor Glenariff deserve to go up because they didnt play their strongest teams every week ?

That is the downfall for your argument as per my previous posts there were many heavy defeats dished out this year in Div 1 and even between the top 3.

So taken all that into account i think MR2 suggestion is the best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
That is the wilest bit of fence jumping youve done today btdtgtt

Agreeing one minute, provoking conspiracy the next, not having an opinion at other times when you're asked for one...not quite sure what your at  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 03:21:08 PM
"Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc."

Who were you referring to NAG1 ?

Are you saying that Rossa nor Glenariff deserve to go up because they didnt play their strongest teams every week ?

That is the downfall for your argument as per my previous posts there were many heavy defeats dished out this year in Div 1 and even between the top 3.

So taken all that into account i think MR2 suggestion is the best

My reference really was to all teams, maybe barring the down teams outside of the big 3. The score lines in some of the games may have been heavy but there is a difference in some of these games from being a competitive 10-12 point win and being a non contest in others with similar score lines. My point is that outside of the top three the rest of the teams have to be completely on it and champing at the bit every week, they have smaller less talented squads and therefore can less afford to be missing players for whatever reason.

So adding another two teams of a similar standard to the bottom four does what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 23, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 23, 2012, 03:21:08 PM
"Im not talking about a team that can play one off league games when it suits them, Im talking about teams that will compete week in week out from May to August through the holiday period and despite stag parties etc."

Who were you referring to NAG1 ?

Are you saying that Rossa nor Glenariff deserve to go up because they didnt play their strongest teams every week ?

That is the downfall for your argument as per my previous posts there were many heavy defeats dished out this year in Div 1 and even between the top 3.

So taken all that into account i think MR2 suggestion is the best

My reference really was to all teams, maybe barring the down teams outside of the big 3. The score lines in some of the games may have been heavy but there is a difference in some of these games from being a competitive 10-12 point win and being a non contest in others with similar score lines. My point is that outside of the top three the rest of the teams have to be completely on it and champing at the bit every week, they have smaller less talented squads and therefore can less afford to be missing players for whatever reason.

So adding another two teams of a similar standard to the bottom four does what?
Increases the number of teams that are of a similar standard to 6 which in itself will increase their standard and maybe, just maybe, the standard will increase enough in a a few years to challenge the top 3.
To avoid the beatings as much then go with MR2 suggestion and top 4/6 and bottom 4/6 play against one another for second half of league which would be good preparation for championship for all teams involved. That to me would improve the standard of all teams IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 23, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
Did this focus group not start before the end of the leagues?

If we had beat Rossa and went up fair and square the belfast ones here would be delighted as discussing a belfast team going up

As it stands a belfast team has went up. There is a recemmondation in place that the next however many teams go up and there is outcry at it. As it stands we do not deserve to go up and I would be happy fighting to go up next year

If you havent read the recemmendations how do you know what is going to happen?
If your club hasnt met to discuss how you would like them to vote how do you know this is going to be carried?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
Not fence jumping at all skull - I put DISCUSSION in capitals because I was saying there is more than be valid opinion here.

Oisin Og I think the point is that IF you had have beaten Rossa - then there wouldn't have been any changes to the leagues as the glens would have been happy to live in their own world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 23, 2012, 07:23:30 PM
Antrim Gael............I don't think you can criticize Loughgiel club or players for lack of enthusiasm or co-operation. They've never lacked these qualities as well you know. That's why they're All Ireland champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2012, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 23, 2012, 07:23:30 PM
Antrim Gael............I don't think you can criticize Loughgiel club or players for lack of enthusiasm or co-operation. They've never lacked these qualities as well you know. That's why they're All Ireland champions.

I think in their attitude to Antrim having a meeting and not what they have achieved for their club. But stick in being All Ireland champions again :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 23, 2012, 11:01:32 PM
as a paddies man, i dont think we are ready for divi 1 and it would do us more harm than good to go up. promotions and relegations should be decided on the pitch and not in the murky committee rooms in casement. rossa and oisins were the 2 best teams and deserve to go up. teams like us lamhs, galls etc dont deserve to  because we didnt earn it on the field. the constant messing with league structures is part of the problem we could all name a few clubs which could pull a few moves in the county convention to save their skins if they end up in the bottom 2 places. it negates any point in working harder to save your own skin or to accept that maybe you just arent good enough for the division and accept whats coming and work hard to get back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2012, 11:25:18 PM
Good to get a Paddies man to give a very level headed perspective.

All this messing around with league tables ignores the elephant(s) in the room

Are clubs coaching structures in a health state?
Are their numbers heathly?
Are they ambitious in terms of improving standards and understand that that takes years of effort?
Is dual code affecting progress?

As as been said..you earn it on the field. If more clubs get up to division 1 standard it would be fantastic, but the all too easy tampering with league structures will not make it happen.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2012, 11:36:21 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 23, 2012, 11:01:32 PM
as a paddies man, i dont think we are ready for divi 1 and it would do us more harm than good to go up. promotions and relegations should be decided on the pitch and not in the murky committee rooms in casement. rossa and oisins were the 2 best teams and deserve to go up. teams like us lamhs, galls etc dont deserve to  because we didnt earn it on the field. the constant messing with league structures is part of the problem we could all name a few clubs which could pull a few moves in the county convention to save their skins if they end up in the bottom 2 places. it negates any point in working harder to save your own skin or to accept that maybe you just arent good enough for the division and accept whats coming and work hard to get back

Except it was only supposed the be one up so oisins in fact have not earned it on the pitch.

As for those questions skull - the answers are entirely subjective and some clubs below the big3 or in div2 might be better placed long term than teams currently  above them in the league.

Also on ur dual clubs point - I don't want to jump from my Rossa to galls bandwagon but this is a sore point with me.
Infrastructure should assist dual clubs not hinder them. Well for single code club (half a club) to pontificate and ignore the wholistic job bèing done by dual clubs particularly by the opportunities they give juveniles.
Mr2 raised the point of single code clubs but until such times dual clubs must be supported however possible - fact is they are not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 12:14:31 AM
Doesn't look like it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 24, 2012, 02:02:35 AM
Relegated or not this has to be viewed by all sides at the same angle no matter NA or SA.

At underage the SA teams seem to win, but only two of them and  at senior NA seems to win, only 1/2 of them. I did say on this board or predict that changes would be made, but I think that the changes would be better suited to underage level.

Our seniors or county senior team will not come on leaps and bounds from a league structure but at  under age level we might. The best in NA come up against the best in SA once a year at underage. Generally there are two good teams at least in both boards and an all county league would mean them meeting each other twice at least during a season. If the quality was higher through juvenile then no one gets complaicent come senior as happens with many teams.

Just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
btdtgtt you think there is some big conspiry going on here.

Have you heard any concrete facts on what is going to happen to the leagues?

Have you seen any of the proposals set out by the focus group or any counter proposals set out by any clubs?

The proper facts will be set out at a county meeting when the clubs have an opportunity to vote on what is the best for the leagues.

As gizzly said it would be better to look at the underage leagues and structures  and make them more competitive as this is where the future of Antrim hurling is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
Travelling times and costs are factors tha cannot be ignored when it comes to underage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
i was aware that only 1 team was due to go up, but they were the 2 best teams. i think putting 4 up would be a waste of time for the teams at the top and middle sections of the league. realistically rossa and oisins would only have to win 2 games to maintain status. given that would be against us and the other lamb to he slaughter, it doesnt do muchfor anybody and give little incentive to most teams in the league to go at it hard and as a result increase the competitiveness and standard in the league. creating a competitive league structure is fundamental to developing our game at all levels. for me, underage all county leagues are a must. south antrim board have proved over the last 20 years the best way NOT to run games and leagues.its a complete joke as to some of the stunts that have been pulled for the benefit of some clubs and not for the benefit of gaa in he SA area. wgat about playing u12& 14 teams playing on the same day at the same venue to save travel expenses for an all county league eg sarsfieldsv dunloy at both groups back to back on a saturday afternoon. think everybody would benefit

The desire for change has to come from the clubs. sadly,  i think many of them are happy with the status quo of 2-3 competitive games a year in the championship and thats it.  that isnt going to develop many players to compete at decent inter-county level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
btdtgtt you think there is some big conspiry going on here.

Have you heard any concrete facts on what is going to happen to the leagues?
There are not any! Its all still in the mix obviously until after conventions so nobody has "concrete facts"
Have you seen any of the proposals set out by the focus group or any counter proposals set out by any clubs?
Yes
The proper facts will be set out at a county meeting when the clubs have an opportunity to vote on what is the best for the leagues.

As gizzly said it would be better to look at the underage leagues and structures  and make them more competitive as this is where the future of Antrim hurling is

I agree.
Underage structures also need looked to - SA teams playing in NA leagues is just stupid - these should be all county leagues as Gladiator says. (altho Gladiator you did beat Rossa this year so your post was a bit negative there on you prospects)
I understand you money/time problem Skull but come on, lets get over this! How much do we want progress if we keep putting obstacles in the way.
Maybe Dunsilly might help - I would much rather it was bunged with kids every saturday and sunday than preserved for county panels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
btdtgtt you think there is some big conspiry going on here.

Have you heard any concrete facts on what is going to happen to the leagues?
There are not any! Its all still in the mix obviously until after conventions so nobody has "concrete facts"
Have you seen any of the proposals set out by the focus group or any counter proposals set out by any clubs?
Yes
The proper facts will be set out at a county meeting when the clubs have an opportunity to vote on what is the best for the leagues.

As gizzly said it would be better to look at the underage leagues and structures  and make them more competitive as this is where the future of Antrim hurling is

I agree.
Underage structures also need looked to - SA teams playing in NA leagues is just stupid - these should be all county leagues as Gladiator says. (altho Gladiator you did beat Rossa this year so your post was a bit negative there on you prospects)
I understand you money/time problem Skull but come on, lets get over this! How much do we want progress if we keep putting obstacles in the way.
Maybe Dunsilly might help - I would much rather it was bunged with kids every saturday and sunday than preserved for county panels.

i didnt mean to be negative, just being realistic. there would only be 2 possibly 3 games we would be competitive in. again  this wont help us to develop. we had many close games in d2 this year  won some, lost some. but the points were up for grabs til the last few minutes. last minute frees to win games, defending a lead, coming back to win games from the dead. i think these type of scenarios will help our lads develop as hurlers rather than get pasted by cushendall by 25 points etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
btdtgtt you think there is some big conspiry going on here.

Have you heard any concrete facts on what is going to happen to the leagues?
There are not any! Its all still in the mix obviously until after conventions so nobody has "concrete facts"
Have you seen any of the proposals set out by the focus group or any counter proposals set out by any clubs?
Yes
The proper facts will be set out at a county meeting when the clubs have an opportunity to vote on what is the best for the leagues.

As gizzly said it would be better to look at the underage leagues and structures  and make them more competitive as this is where the future of Antrim hurling is

I agree.
Underage structures also need looked to - SA teams playing in NA leagues is just stupid - these should be all county leagues as Gladiator says. (altho Gladiator you did beat Rossa this year so your post was a bit negative there on you prospects)
I understand you money/time problem Skull but come on, lets get over this! How much do we want progress if we keep putting obstacles in the way.
Maybe Dunsilly might help - I would much rather it was bunged with kids every saturday and sunday than preserved for county panels.

i didnt mean to be negative, just being realistic. there would only be 2 possibly 3 games we would be competitive in. again  this wont help us to develop. we had many close games in d2 this year  won some, lost some. but the points were up for grabs til the last few minutes. last minute frees to win games, defending a lead, coming back to win games from the dead. i think these type of scenarios will help our lads develop as hurlers rather than get pasted by cushendall by 25 points etc.

You beat us twice last year and I'd be confident of our team giving Cushendall a competitive game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
Oisin Og I forgot to answer your question on "conspiracy"

It is a hard fact that leage re-structures inevitably and always favour NA teams at the expense of City teams.

This year IF the structures are changed it will allow and extra Glens teams up - had this been done in previous year it would have brought a city team up - but surprise surprise this didnt happen.

The previous re-structure (suggested by a glens team) resulted in 4 teams relegated. Lo and Behold three of these were from the city! This despite teams playing without county players (Galls footballers & rossa hurlers) because they believed they were safe from relegation.

Unfortunately I am old enough to I beleive remember restructures resulted in both Ballycastle & Loughiel surviving in Div1 despite their league positions.

These are just facts. Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
btdtgtt any changes that happen would not have happened without the clubs voteing for it. There are not enough North antrim clubs to carry a majority vote so any time there has been a change in the league set up there was support from the Belfast clubs.

Attitudes of South Antrim against North Antrim also does not help the situation in Antrim they need to do away with these divisional boards and the county board take charge and run the competitions

I dont support the changes as I though division 1 and 2 ran well. They do need to look at the lower leagues as there may be a problem there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
btdtgtt any changes that happen would not have happened without the clubs voteing for it. There are not enough North antrim clubs to carry a majority vote so any time there has been a change in the league set up there was support from the Belfast clubs.

Attitudes of South Antrim against North Antrim also does not help the situation in Antrim they need to do away with these divisional boards and the county board take charge and run the competitions

I dont support the changes as I though division 1 and 2 ran well. They do need to look at the lower leagues as there may be a problem there.

Would you support two up two down in the leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 02:24:55 PM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
btdtgtt any changes that happen would not have happened without the clubs voteing for it. There are not enough North antrim clubs to carry a majority vote so any time there has been a change in the league set up there was support from the Belfast clubs.
Not at all - dont forget the vots of the clubs not directly affected - and many of these just follow what the perceived big clubs want.

Attitudes of South Antrim against North Antrim also does not help the situation in Antrim they need to do away with these divisional boards and the county board take charge and run the competitions
Completely agree about divisional boards - juveniles and all should be all county. Doing away with the boards does not necessarily mean an end to localised tournaments like blitzes or feis. I am not sure what you mean by south antrim attitudes - obviously I am biased but I think the chip on the shoulder with regard to hurling being seen as the preserve of the glens is there for good reason

I dont support the changes as I though division 1 and 2 ran well. They do need to look at the lower leagues as there may be a problem there.
I wouldnt necessarily disagree with you on that one. Like I said before I can see both sides to the re-structure debate. I think the real challenge is not about how many teams are in the divisions - but how to make every match meaningful. Personally I would like league and championship linked via seeding - and MR2 suggested a half way split.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 24, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: oisinog on October 24, 2012, 09:23:40 AM
btdtgtt you think there is some big conspiry going on here.

Have you heard any concrete facts on what is going to happen to the leagues?
There are not any! Its all still in the mix obviously until after conventions so nobody has "concrete facts"
Have you seen any of the proposals set out by the focus group or any counter proposals set out by any clubs?
Yes
The proper facts will be set out at a county meeting when the clubs have an opportunity to vote on what is the best for the leagues.

As gizzly said it would be better to look at the underage leagues and structures  and make them more competitive as this is where the future of Antrim hurling is

I agree.
Underage structures also need looked to - SA teams playing in NA leagues is just stupid - these should be all county leagues as Gladiator says. (altho Gladiator you did beat Rossa this year so your post was a bit negative there on you prospects)
I understand you money/time problem Skull but come on, lets get over this! How much do we want progress if we keep putting obstacles in the way.
Maybe Dunsilly might help - I would much rather it was bunged with kids every saturday and sunday than preserved for county panels.

i didnt mean to be negative, just being realistic. there would only be 2 possibly 3 games we would be competitive in. again  this wont help us to develop. we had many close games in d2 this year  won some, lost some. but the points were up for grabs til the last few minutes. last minute frees to win games, defending a lead, coming back to win games from the dead. i think these type of scenarios will help our lads develop as hurlers rather than get pasted by cushendall by 25 points etc.

You beat us twice last year and I'd be confident of our team giving Cushendall a competitive game.
i was just using the dall as an example to illustrate my point. galls may be able to raise their game to push cushendall in a championship game once a year or a league game that they arent bothered about. our championship form over the last 15 years tells me that we would struggle to raise it to compete on a regula basis as we have regularly fallen to teams from lower divisions on many occassions, creggan, st teresas etc. at this time we arent battle hardened enough to expect to compete at this level. hopefully we will  over the next 5 years, but i feel that at theminute it would do more harm than good to oyr young team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 24, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
Is that the view of your manager also ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 24, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
its not, but as this has stemmed from the debate around re-structuring of the leagues, kevo would like the team to play at the higher level, where as i disagree. previous experience tell me that we should build towards it by winning d2. in 2006 we won d2; we werent good enough for d1 but went up and took some terrible beatings. the team we have now will develop into a better team than 06; but at the minute  most of them arent ready, physically or mentally. just my honest opinion. promotion by natural process will dictate when we are ready, not another comitte room manouvre
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: No Soloing on October 24, 2012, 06:55:11 PM
My kids played in the SW P3/P4 hurling championship last weekend in Rasharkin. The team got their photo taken for the paper. I thought somebody there said at the time it was for the County Antrim Post. It isnt a paper I am familiar with and couldn't get much info about it when I googled it. I did find the Antrim Post on Twitter. Would that be it or would anyone have an idea what the paper may be? If so can you tell me what day it comes out and if there is anywhere around south or west Belfast you can get a copy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2012, 11:06:57 PM
It's a paper published. In portglenone i think?

It does a massive amount of antrim gaa coverage.

I thought someone on here said they found it available somewhere in belfast??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 24, 2012, 11:30:21 PM
Loughgiel v Portaferry at the weekend, hoping for a good tight game of hurling. Few positive stories from Down hurling this year with their minors winning ulster and An Dun in the schools final tomorrow night against St Mary's. Despite this still fancy Loughgiel to win by 5+ and make it to an All Ireland final.

On another note, lets leave the league restructuring debate until the actual proposals are out in the open.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 25, 2012, 01:10:38 AM
Quote from: No Soloing on October 24, 2012, 06:55:11 PM
My kids played in the SW P3/P4 hurling championship last weekend in Rasharkin. The team got their photo taken for the paper. I thought somebody there said at the time it was for the County Antrim Post. It isnt a paper I am familiar with and couldn't get much info about it when I googled it. I did find the Antrim Post on Twitter. Would that be it or would anyone have an idea what the paper may be? If so can you tell me what day it comes out and if there is anywhere around south or west Belfast you can get a copy?

you can get that paper in many shops in belfast, (great paper for the promotion of gaa at all levels) even non traditional areas i may add. most villages in NA and NWA ive seen it in so shouldnt be hard to find. it has a green heading and usually resides beside the weekly edition section of a newspaper stand, even beside the auto trader. must say again a great paper. btw think it comes out on a tuesday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2012, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 24, 2012, 11:06:57 PM
It's a paper published. In portglenone i think?

It does a massive amount of antrim gaa coverage.

I thought someone on here said they found it available somewhere in belfast??
Minder might know. I get my ma to post me a copy  8).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 26, 2012, 10:29:11 AM
From the County Guestbook

Name : Gael25 October 2012
How can the county administration justify £4250 in fines for this year's county finalists? Is it really in the best interests of our county to punish hard pressed clubs for offences such as water carriers coming on to the pitch? If so, surely there must be an alternative to financial penalties in the current climate

Which of the 2 clubs was this if it is water carriers then it is a bit harsh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
I THINK it may have been St. John & st galls in the football final.

Have to agree fines are counter productive just move money around robbing clubs of resources.
Find another sanction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 26, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
I THINK it may have been St. John & st galls in the football final.

Have to agree fines are counter productive just move money around robbing clubs of resources.
Find another sanction.

I would imagine that was the total for the hurling and football finals. And I think they were dropped on appeal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2012, 01:17:22 PM
Quote from: the colonel on October 26, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
I THINK it may have been St. John & st galls in the football final.

Have to agree fines are counter productive just move money around robbing clubs of resources.
Find another sanction.

I would imagine that was the total for the hurling and football finals. And I think they were dropped on appeal

Correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
the fines were dropped as they only implemented it for the final when they should of done it the whole way through.

we got £950 fine for the final alone, lgiel £750. silly things for having one too many water boys on one side of the pitch, £50 for that. total and utter nonsene as usual form the clowns that run things in our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
I heard the St Johns fine for the football was because they didn't wear a change strip so as not to clash with St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
the fines were dropped as they only implemented it for the final when they should of done it the whole way through.

we got £950 fine for the final alone, lgiel £750. silly things for having one too many water boys on one side of the pitch, £50 for that. total and utter nonsene as usual form the clowns that run things in our county.
Just a money making exercise to put funds towards Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 26, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 26, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
I heard the St Johns fine for the football was because they didn't wear a change strip so as not to clash with St Galls.

If they'd worn a changed strip who'd have picked up the tab?

I remember when we'd to play Newtownshandrum in the AI semi-fina,l Croke park decreed there'd be a clash of strips so both would have to wear an alternative strip based on provincial colours.

We'd agreed with Newtownshandrum that we'd wear our away strip, mostly white in colour and they were happy to wear their away strip, yellow IIFC, Seany O'Leary in Croke Park dismissed the proposal meaning both teams had to stump up for whole new kits, "£1K+ out of pocket before you start.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Yes all great points lads.

Not only are these fines a nonsense as they move money about Within the one association - but they take the money from the core unit at grassroots where it is needed most - the club.

I can imagine the meeting;
"You had an extra water carrier who nobody other than a guy in a suit in the stand noticed - he did nothing wrong - but we fine you that £100 which you were going to spend on your under12 team"

Sure if a team/club is guilty of a significant infringement then there should be a sanction - but clearly not fines.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 26, 2012, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Yes all great points lads.

Not only are these fines a nonsense as they move money about Within the one association - but they take the money from the core unit at grassroots where it is needed most - the club.

I can imagine the meeting;
"You had an extra water carrier who nobody other than a guy in a suit in the stand noticed - he did nothing wrong - but we fine you that £100 which you were going to spend on your under12 team"

Sure if a team/club is guilty of a significant infringement then there should be a sanction - but clearly not fines.

What sort of Sanction would you apply?

Anything I think of is quite harsh eg loosing home games for a set period or suspensions to managment team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 26, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on October 26, 2012, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Yes all great points lads.

Not only are these fines a nonsense as they move money about Within the one association - but they take the money from the core unit at grassroots where it is needed most - the club.

I can imagine the meeting;
"You had an extra water carrier who nobody other than a guy in a suit in the stand noticed - he did nothing wrong - but we fine you that £100 which you were going to spend on your under12 team"

Sure if a team/club is guilty of a significant infringement then there should be a sanction - but clearly not fines.

What sort of Sanction would you apply?

Anything I think of is quite harsh eg loosing home games for a set period or suspensions to managment team

I think you have to draw a distinction between what are really petty infringements such as too many water/hurley carriers on one side of the pitch, socks down during the parade, and the likes and other infringements impacting on the game such as management's abusing officials, blocking the view of linesmen, entering the field of play and the likes.

County boards are struggling for funds and they see the clubs as a cash cow in some instances even when clubs haven't got the nails to scratch themselves.

Do the competing clubs get a slice off the gates in championship matches in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on October 26, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: oisinog on October 26, 2012, 02:57:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Yes all great points lads.

Not only are these fines a nonsense as they move money about Within the one association - but they take the money from the core unit at grassroots where it is needed most - the club.

I can imagine the meeting;
"You had an extra water carrier who nobody other than a guy in a suit in the stand noticed - he did nothing wrong - but we fine you that £100 which you were going to spend on your under12 team"

Sure if a team/club is guilty of a significant infringement then there should be a sanction - but clearly not fines.

What sort of Sanction would you apply?

Anything I think of is quite harsh eg loosing home games for a set period or suspensions to managment team

I think you have to draw a distinction between what are really petty infringements such as too many water/hurley carriers on one side of the pitch, socks down during the parade, and the likes and other infringements impacting on the game such as management's abusing officials, blocking the view of linesmen, entering the field of play and the likes.

County boards are struggling for funds and they see the clubs as a cash cow in some instances even when clubs haven't got the nails to scratch themselves.

Do the competing clubs get a slice off the gates in championship matches in Antrim?

Dont think so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: No Soloing on October 26, 2012, 05:59:34 PM
Thanks to all who gave info on the Co Antrim Post. After a bit of hunting around I got a copy in the Dairy Farm Centre on Stewartstown rd. Alas, after that no pics of the P4 championship. Maybe the paper coming out on Tuesday was too early for it. I will try next week to see if it is in then

There is some amount of GAA in it! I guess it is related to the County Derry Post, which I am more familiar with. It has a lot of GAA coverage as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: No Soloing on October 26, 2012, 05:59:34 PM
Thanks to all who gave info on the Co Antrim Post. After a bit of hunting around I got a copy in the Dairy Farm Centre on Stewartstown rd. Alas, after that no pics of the P4 championship. Maybe the paper coming out on Tuesday was too early for it. I will try next week to see if it is in then

There is some amount of GAA in it! I guess it is related to the County Derry Post, which I am more familiar with. It has a lot of GAA coverage as well.

They are on Twitter @AntrimPost so they could maybe tell you when they are due to publish the photos.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 26, 2012, 06:21:54 PM
I suppose playing a certain number of games away from
Home depending on severity is the most obvious sanction.
Maybe extend to playin championship at opponents ground if practical.
I know it's difficult but fines not an option for me.

One other thought. If too many men on line is a problem - alert the ref who stops the game intel the rule is complied with. Simple?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on October 26, 2012, 07:54:03 PM
probably alot of the fines are imposed by guys that need to justify being on the committee or getin a free pass its a fukin joke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 27, 2012, 04:18:34 PM
Money grabbing cnuts.   >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 05:35:42 PM
Haven't spoke about the fines thing yet, but here's the thing, the county give the committie or secretary a list of doe's and don't and what fines will be imposed should the team/mentors break these rules. It's crap but all managers know these well in advance of finals and should they progress in Ulster and All Ireland they are given another list of what is required.

It's down to the manager, if he lets his team go out without warning the lads and they get fined for socks down during the anthem or there are too many subs on the pitch then there shouldn't really be any complaining.

I witnessed these things first hand, the list of things was mental, have it somewhere in the house must dig it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on October 27, 2012, 06:46:56 PM
MR2 i dont think managers would be givin a fuk bout whos socks are up its an amater game ffs a lot o wankers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: the waffler on October 27, 2012, 06:46:56 PM
MR2 i dont think managers would be givin a fuk bout whos socks are up its an amater game ffs a lot o w**kers

Yeah, no doubt that whoever thought these things up is a toss pot, but it's not like nobody knows and act surprised when the fines come in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
That's the folly of the whole thing - who in gods name decided players have to pull their socks up and why?!
It's nearly funny!
I know what u mean mr2 but if faceless officials cannot simply diktats such as this and expect everyone to fall into line - resist an unjust law and all that!
Good god the gaa actually makes socks up/down into an issue!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
That's the folly of the whole thing - who in gods name decided players have to pull their socks up and why?!
It's nearly funny!
I know what u mean mr2 but if faceless officials cannot simply diktats such as this and expect everyone to fall into line - resist an unjust law and all that!
Good god the gaa actually makes socks up/down into an issue!

They want finals at county grounds to replicate the All Ireland finals. Madness in the extreme but everyone knows the rules.

Might head to Casement tomorrow, will the Ports  make a game of it? Cloughmills should win handy also I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 08:54:14 PM
It's madness for all Ireland finals too no matter what the level - socks?! Schoolboy stuff not senior hurling.

Have to say I think and hope loughgiel will win with a bit to spare. I wouldn't go watch portaferry in February but loughgiel would be an excuse for a day out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
I would like to think players going into big games have their kinda focused 100% on the games rather than paying heed to how their socks look for the suits in the stand.

I believe the footballers change socks as the grip the inside of the boots better! Common in soccer!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
I would like to think players going into big games have their kinda focused 100% on the games rather than paying heed to how their socks look for the suits in the stand.

I believe the footballers change socks as the grip the inside of the boots better! Common in soccer!
Doubt it. Have you ever heard of the "championship haircut"?
What is it these days? A f**king feathercut or something. Used to be a buzzcut and then there was a spate of bleaching went on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 09:57:14 PM
Once heard john mullane use that exact phrase! Yes I've seen the teams going out bleached or shaved but don't think it was done during the parade or team talk somehow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
Get away'a that hardstation!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 27, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
I work with a fella that knows a few Irish League soccer players and if they are being shown live on Sky they hit the sunbeds in the run up to the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 27, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
I work with a fella that knows a few Irish League soccer players and if they are being shown live on Sky they hit the sunbeds in the run up to the game.

Cheaper doing a spray on tan i hear ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
Get away'a that hardstation!
Apparently true. Something tells me Sambo covered it in his book but not sure (it wasn't Sambo fixing his hair in the mirror, right enough).
I certainly remember discussing it with someone a while back and he seemed to think it was a Rossa man. Not that it mattered as we still would have been tanked.

Anyway, things like that happen all the time.
Has been discussed here before re. D. Armstrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Granted I am no sambo fan as SIE will confirm but that sounds like a petty swipe in the book - sambo no stranger to pampering his own ego.
Armstrong hardly lost us that all Ireland regardless if the story was accurate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Granted I am no sambo fan as SIE will confirm but that sounds like a petty swipe in the book - sambo no stranger to pampering his own ego.
Armstrong hardly lost us that all Ireland regardless if the story was accurate.

Not stopping Nicky English I think lost it for us  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:17:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2012, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Granted I am no sambo fan as SIE will confirm but that sounds like a petty swipe in the book - sambo no stranger to pampering his own ego.
Armstrong hardly lost us that all Ireland regardless if the story was accurate.
If it was in Sambo's book (a long time since I read it), I'm near sure he didn't name the player.
Did he say it was a Rossa player? Would certainly have narrowed it down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:20:24 PM
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=18825.msg934090#msg934090 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=18825.msg934090#msg934090)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Granted I am no sambo fan as SIE will confirm but that sounds like a petty swipe in the book - sambo no stranger to pampering his own ego.
Armstrong hardly lost us that all Ireland regardless if the story was accurate.

Not stopping Nicky English I think lost it for us  ::)
Had Nicky English not played that day we still would have been tanked. They were streets ahead in every area.

Of course they were, was piss taking. Though was some personal tally
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
Am I imagining it but wasn't there a game within the last 20 years that Antrim lost in the semis and could've won? Was it Kilkenny or Limerick. A high scoring yoke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 11:27:13 PM
Kilkenny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:27:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
Am I imagining it but wasn't there a game within the last 20 years that Antrim lost in the semis and could've won? Was it Kilkenny or Limerick. A high scoring yoke.
Kilkenny '91??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:30:16 PM
I think we are settled on Kilkenny 1991 then (2 point defeat).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 11:31:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwwlm61hOg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
21 years later we could be another 21 years away from a repeat. Hope not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 11:48:12 PM
Anyone hear something about a combined ulster team to be entered in the all-Ireland minor & u21?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2012, 12:01:46 AM
Not a fan of combinations - they rarely play as a team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 28, 2012, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 28, 2012, 12:01:46 AM
Not a fan of combinations - they rarely play as a team.
Never stops St Johns underage teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 27, 2012, 11:37:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
21 years later we could be another 21 years away from a repeat. Hope not.
Can't see it in my lifetime. I'm 26 and hope to see at least one week of my pension.
Can someone please tell me how Beaver didn't pick up at least one all-star in that 2-3 year period? He was an immense hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2012, 10:35:12 AM
Very good 2hands!

SiE I always Remeber McCarry had a serious striker - the ball stayed hit! Very Watson like.
Is he still around ur club?

Expect any problems today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 28, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
In the Eighties Antrim put a very good show against Cork and scored something like 27 points,don't know if they got any goals.Cork beat them scoring about 6 or 7 goals plus. I think a Ballycastle man was in goal for Antrim.Antrim could have won that day.Any body remember it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 28, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
think sean mcguiness was in charge at that time. Think it was 1987 in dundalk of all places.  could be wrong though!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 28, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
In the Eighties Antrim put a very good show against Cork and scored something like 27 points,don't know if they got any goals.Cork beat them scoring about 6 or 7 goals plus. I think a Ballycastle man was in goal for Antrim.Antrim could have won that day.Any body remember it?

Paul Smith?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 28, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on October 28, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
In the Eighties Antrim put a very good show against Cork and scored something like 27 points,don't know if they got any goals.Cork beat them scoring about 6 or 7 goals plus. I think a Ballycastle man was in goal for Antrim.Antrim could have won that day.Any body remember it?

1986 in Croke Park in front of a very low attendance

7–11 – 1–24
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
That's the folly of the whole thing - who in gods name decided players have to pull their socks up and why?!
It's nearly funny!
I know what u mean mr2 but if faceless officials cannot simply diktats such as this and expect everyone to fall into line - resist an unjust law and all that!
Good god the gaa actually makes socks up/down into an issue!

They want finals at county grounds to replicate the All Ireland finals. Madness in the extreme but everyone knows the rules.

Might head to Casement tomorrow, will the Ports  make a game of it? Cloughmills should win handy also I'd say

Behind with a few minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
 8) a wee pint or two in order the night. Finished 2-25 to 0-12

Bad luck biddies. Beaten 3-14 to 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 28, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
That's the folly of the whole thing - who in gods name decided players have to pull their socks up and why?!
It's nearly funny!
I know what u mean mr2 but if faceless officials cannot simply diktats such as this and expect everyone to fall into line - resist an unjust law and all that!
Good god the gaa actually makes socks up/down into an issue!

They want finals at county grounds to replicate the All Ireland finals. Madness in the extreme but everyone knows the rules.

Might head to Casement tomorrow, will the Ports  make a game of it? Cloughmills should win handy also I'd say

Behind with a few minutes left.

Fermanagh hurling on the rise then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
Thurles beat killmallock in munster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
Thurles beat killmallock in munster

Didn't expect that, Thurles finally making a push at club level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
Thurles beat killmallock in munster

Didn't expect that, Thurles finally making a push at club level
Ballyhale and dicksboro through to kilkenny final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
Thurles beat killmallock in munster

Didn't expect that, Thurles finally making a push at club level
Ballyhale and dicksboro through to kilkenny final.

Have to fancy the shamrocks to come through that. Dicksboro were interm champions a couple of years ago!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 04:08:40 PM
Thurles beat killmallock in munster

Didn't expect that, Thurles finally making a push at club level
Ballyhale and dicksboro through to kilkenny final.

Have to fancy the shamrocks to come through that. Dicksboro were interm champions a couple of years ago!!
i don't think it'll be that straight forward MR2. They had to beat James Stephens to get to the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair  :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 28, 2012, 06:52:46 PM
Have you seen much of Loughrea MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 28, 2012, 07:51:37 PM
Lads let's no get carried away in the good times.  Not that long ago we managed a point in a full half.   Galway hurling is very very tough.   No doubt who ever comes out will take a bit of beating.   Shamrocks v shamrocks on the 17th would be fun :o.   Rest up and a fierce effort over the winter for feb.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

That's a very simplistic view, my mate was at it and he said the weather was atrocious, what did Loughgiel score on a perfect evening for hurling in the Antrim final, 1-10 or 1-11? Hardly shooting the lights out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

What was the score a couple of years ago in the county final?

As for Loughrea, I watched them before, TG4 have shown a few county finals over the years, the infamous one with Portumna was what I would call a blood bath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

How many points did you score against O'loughlin Gaels in the second half, or the full game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

What was the score a couple of years ago in the county final?

As for Loughrea, I watched them before, TG4 have shown a few county finals over the years, the infamous one with Portumna was what I would call a blood bath
that wasn't an epic,  and one team scored more than 9 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

How many points did you score against O'loughlin Gaels in the second half, or the full game?
10, which is more than nine. Olg scored 3-10, again, more than 9.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Someone is having a bad day.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 28, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
That's a big win for Fermanagh hurling and they beat some good teams on the way. Crying into theor pints in The Corner Hoose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Someone is having a bad day.  ::)

Point being that all good teams suffer a bad day at the scoring. I wouldn't be dishing teams from Galway, that's all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Someone is having a bad day.  ::)

Point being that all good teams suffer a bad day at the scoring. I wouldn't be dishing teams from Galway, that's all
and where did I say that? What I said was it looks like it was a turgid affair. Hardly dishing galway teams. Get off your high horse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Gort and st Thomas' drew in galway, 0-09 apiece. Sounds like a turgid affair   :-\

The winners of the replay will play Loughrea in the final who defeated Turoughmore 1-12 to 0-07.

They weren't playing Portaferry so I'd imagine the score would have been a lot more had they been, just a thought. Loughrea wouldn't be the best hurling team but hard as fcuk
with all due respect mr2, no matter who's playing who you'd expect one team to score more than 9 points in two halves of hurling. No?

I thougtht (I may be wrong) with this post you were thinking (I may be wrong) that any team that doesn't score more than 9 points in 2 halves of hurling would be crap. Again I may be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
You're wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
You're wrong.

Yeah, the post was a bit misleading.  Can you elaborate on this post of yours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
You're wrong.

Yeah, the post was a bit misleading.  Can you elaborate on this post of yours?
it wasn't misleading in the slightest. To me it looks like it was a turgid affair. It's a point of view. I could be wrong of course, it might have been the greatest game of hurling ever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:23:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
You're wrong.

Yeah, the post was a bit misleading.  Can you elaborate on this post of yours?
it wasn't misleading in the slightest. To me it looks like it was a turgid affair. It's a point of view. I could be wrong of course, it might have been the greatest game of hurling ever.

It won't worry Loughgiel anyway, I'd say Loughgiel will be at another final this year, way too strong and very confident, with two campaigns behind them I think they'll manage the Galway hurlers this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
from Galway hoganstand:

Senior Hurling Championship
Given the conditions a draw is fair. i know there were bad wides for both teams but i felt had there been another minute Gort may have snatched it. Thomases showed how good they were when they couldn't hold out a 4 point lead even in the worst of conditions. A goal didn't see like a possibility for either team but just to say patrick skehill can count himself very lucky not to concede two goals or the game would have been out of their reach.
loughreahurler , 28/10/2012 at 17:07
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 29, 2012, 08:28:50 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2012, 08:42:31 PM
Someone is having a bad day.  ::)

Point being that all good teams suffer a bad day at the scoring. I wouldn't be dishing teams from Galway, that's all
and where did I say that? What I said was it looks like it was a turgid affair. Hardly dishing galway teams. Get off your high horse.

Has anyone got the teams for yesterday's game?

The bits I'm hearing on the Ports selection sound as if the management decided to put on a few old guard well past their best, rather than the young lads who got them there in the first place.

A bit of a panic move if true IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
from Galway hoganstand:

Senior Hurling Championship
Given the conditions a draw is fair. i know there were bad wides for both teams but i felt had there been another minute Gort may have snatched it. Thomases showed how good they were when they couldn't hold out a 4 point lead even in the worst of conditions. A goal didn't see like a possibility for either team but just to say patrick skehill can count himself very lucky not to concede two goals or the game would have been out of their reach.
loughreahurler , 28/10/2012 at 17:07
Sounds a bit turgid to me.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2012, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
from Galway hoganstand:

Senior Hurling Championship
Given the conditions a draw is fair. i know there were bad wides for both teams but i felt had there been another minute Gort may have snatched it. Thomases showed how good they were when they couldn't hold out a 4 point lead even in the worst of conditions. A goal didn't see like a possibility for either team but just to say patrick skehill can count himself very lucky not to concede two goals or the game would have been out of their reach.
loughreahurler , 28/10/2012 at 17:07
Sounds a bit turgid to me.  :P

I'm glad the conditions didn't stop it from being a turgid game ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2012, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
from Galway hoganstand:

Senior Hurling Championship
Given the conditions a draw is fair. i know there were bad wides for both teams but i felt had there been another minute Gort may have snatched it. Thomases showed how good they were when they couldn't hold out a 4 point lead even in the worst of conditions. A goal didn't see like a possibility for either team but just to say patrick skehill can count himself very lucky not to concede two goals or the game would have been out of their reach.
loughreahurler , 28/10/2012 at 17:07
Sounds a bit turgid to me.  :P

I'm glad the conditions didn't stop it from being a turgid game ::)
irrelevant to my initial post.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 29, 2012, 10:45:36 PM
In your lifetime?...... probably
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2012, 11:27:55 PM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on October 29, 2012, 11:21:34 PM
I've been about 32 years. It's the besst i've seen.

I'm sure they are decent, but there are a lot of clubs that have done the same thing over the years. Hopefully they will intergrate well with their senior teams in years to come and start winning senior championships again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2012, 11:29:20 PM
Were that stjohns team the other year not pretty good?

Dunoy's good teams in 90s had very large contingent from one age group i think?  They'd be strong.

Generally outstanding teams clean up too. Five points not that big a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 30, 2012, 08:25:52 AM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on October 29, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
Best ever Antrim juvenile team?

http://www.odonovanrossagac.ie/index.php/u16s-hurlers-make-mine-a-double/

I'll quote you a Rossa clubman's response when asked about a young up and coming hurler from North Antrim who'd just played well in a friendly for his school, Cross and Passion (I think) against UUJ freshers team the same man was managing...

'Wait till he finds out what his cócks really for'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/antrim-chief-murray-pours-cold-water-on-gpa-plans-for-united-ulster-3277574.html

What's the thoughts surrounding this issue? It's a no go area for me, was there much thought even put in to this, couldn't see it working out at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on October 30, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on October 29, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
Best ever Antrim juvenile team?

http://www.odonovanrossagac.ie/index.php/u16s-hurlers-make-mine-a-double/

A good team that's for sure but we weren't a million miles behind them (and beat them by 10 points earlier this year)

It's hard to say how good a team is compared to others- for example we had a minor team a couple of years ago that went unbeaten all year to win our only Ulster Minor title and they were even put down with our own club. We've had teams with Graffin, Shane, Neil, McGill, Carson etc on the one team then had likes of Karl, Mick Monty, Decky McK, Odhran S etc go win Minor titles. The big thing will to see how many make senior level. Only fair to judge then

But there are definitely some nice hurlers on that Rossa team, as with last years U16 team also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: the colonel on October 30, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on October 29, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
Best ever Antrim juvenile team?

http://www.odonovanrossagac.ie/index.php/u16s-hurlers-make-mine-a-double/

A good team that's for sure but we weren't a million miles behind them (and beat them by 10 points earlier this year)

It's hard to say how good a team is compared to others- for example we had a minor team a couple of years ago that went unbeaten all year to win our only Ulster Minor title and they were even put down with our own club. We've had teams with Graffin, Shane, Neil, McGill, Carson etc on the one team then had likes of Karl, Mick Monty, Decky McK, Odhran S etc go win Minor titles. The big thing will to see how many make senior level. Only fair to judge then

But there are definitely some nice hurlers on that Rossa team, as with last years U16 team also

Under age success is no guarantee of Senior success but it does help  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Imitation in apparently a form of flattery hardstation!

Way too premature to hail a juvenile team. Even within that club there have been a litany of juvenile "greats" that never laced boots at senior.
For me the measure of how good a juvenile teams is/was does not depend on its juvenile titles - it depends on it how it develops to senior.
For example if a team did back-to-back feile's but didn't feed the senior setup can they really be regarded as a success?

I raised the issue of this combined ulster team - it's a no go forme also. Combinations do not play as a team and regardless of individual ability the team ethic produces better outcomes so I think the combinations end up getting worse results.
I am guessing there would also be an issue with player commitment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Imitation in apparently a form of flattery hardstation!

Way too premature to hail a juvenile team. Even within that club there have been a litany of juvenile "greats" that never laced boots at senior.
For me the measure of how good a juvenile teams is/was does not depend on its juvenile titles - it depends on it how it develops to senior.
For example if a team did back-to-back feile's but didn't feed the senior setup can they really be regarded as a success?

I raised the issue of this combined ulster team - it's a no go forme also. Combinations do not play as a team and regardless of individual ability the team ethic produces better outcomes so I think the combinations end up getting worse results.
I am guessing there would also be an issue with player commitment.

Name me one player outside of Antrim Barring Paul Braniff that would make the final 15? Paul McCormick Armagh couple of years ago but outside of that I am struggling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2012, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Imitation in apparently a form of flattery hardstation!

Way too premature to hail a juvenile team. Even within that club there have been a litany of juvenile "greats" that never laced boots at senior.
For me the measure of how good a juvenile teams is/was does not depend on its juvenile titles - it depends on it how it develops to senior.
For example if a team did back-to-back feile's but didn't feed the senior setup can they really be regarded as a success?

I raised the issue of this combined ulster team - it's a no go forme also. Combinations do not play as a team and regardless of individual ability the team ethic produces better outcomes so I think the combinations end up getting worse results.
I am guessing there would also be an issue with player commitment.

Name me one player outside of Antrim Barring Paul Braniff that would make the final 15? Paul McCormick Armagh couple of years ago but outside of that I am struggling.

Convery from Derry and the two brothers from Dungiven, they are the size of players with decent skill to match (with more intense training) the southern players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
If either Gareth Johnson (Galget) or Brendan McGourty (cran) were firing on all cylinders.

But like I say I don't think it'll work it's a lazy idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
If either Gareth Johnson (Galget) or Brendan McGourty (cran) were firing on all cylinders.

But like I say I don't think it'll work it's a lazy idea.
I don't no if either of them are about anymore.  But IMO. Both would walk onto this team.  But am still not for it.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2012, 12:23:45 PM
If either Gareth Johnson (Galget) or Brendan McGourty (cran) were firing on all cylinders.

But like I say I don't think it'll work it's a lazy idea.
I don't no if either of them are about anymore.  But IMO. Both would walk onto this team.  But am still not for it.   

Magic on a good day maybe, Magic on a normal day no thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on October 30, 2012, 03:26:09 PM
both guys in oz magic is a take it or leave sort of fella but on his game is a handfull mcgortey is a class player big miss for down the 2 guys and from what i can gather will be losing 2 more top men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Would clarke not be in with a shout for keeper?  What age would he be now?  31/32? Or what about Sean Lee Mc goldrick? Unreal talent a few years ago,  havent seen him since.   Any1 want to name an ulster select? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Id say he is closer to 36 than 31 SG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
;D b**tards!

Which one of you cnuts is responsible for @hardstation2 on twitter?

Can I please state that this is not me.
I have to admit I was a bit unsettled when whoever it is followed me on there.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
;D b**tards!

Which one of you cnuts is responsible for @hardstation2 on twitter?

Can I please state that this is not me.
I have to admit I was a bit unsettled when whoever it is followed me on there.  :o
Me2.  I was like,   Ohhh fcuk.  Lol.    Follows alot of interesting people tho :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 30, 2012, 04:49:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 30, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Id say he is closer to 36 than 31 SG

Yeah, think he's 37 now.

TBH, he'd still be the best keeper in Down, Keating for Portaferry has made a few boo-boo's this year and doesn't like anyone anywhere near him. Stephen Keith of Ballycran has been injured all year and isn't bad, but not a patch on his old fella.

I'd be fairly critical of big Magic, but I haven't seen a better full forward in Antrim or Ulster than him, he'd been feeding off scraps when playing for us and as we'd no other real scoring threat he'd always be double marked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2012, 04:40:48 PM
I never heard of most of them. Seemed to be following quite a high number of St. Galls people at one point too.
MR2 taking the piss??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2012, 07:06:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 30, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2012, 04:40:48 PM
I never heard of most of them. Seemed to be following quite a high number of St. Galls people at one point too.
MR2 taking the piss??

Sorry, I'm not a stalker I do have a life outside of the computer!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on October 30, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
few players I feel would make a combined Ulster squad - As I say this is my opinion and with the right training and management structures in places could and I stress could do something down South.

Antrim

DD Quinn, Johnny Campbell, M Scullion, T McCloskey, L Watson, E McCloskey, J Scullion, N McManus, A Graffin, S McNaughton,           R McGarry, C Donnelly, N McAuley, P Shiels, S Dowds, K Molloy, B McFall, S McCrory

Down

C Baillie, S Ennis, C Woods, M Ennis, D Toner, P Braniff

Derry

D McDermott, M Warnock, L Hinphey, O McCloskey, K Hinphey, P Henry, R Convery

Armagh

R McGrattan, D Carvill, C Carvill, R Gaffney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 30, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
Who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on October 30, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
few players I feel would make a combined Ulster squad - As I say this is my opinion and with the right training and management structures in places could and I stress could do something down South.

Antrim

DD Quinn, Johnny Campbell, M Scullion, T McCloskey, L Watson, E McCloskey, J Scullion, N McManus, A Graffin, S McNaughton,           R McGarry, C Donnelly, N McAuley, P Shiels, S Dowds, K Molloy, B McFall, S McCrory

Down

C Baillie, S Ennis, C Woods, M Ennis, D Toner, P Braniff

Derry

D McDermott, M Warnock, L Hinphey, O McCloskey, K Hinphey, P Henry, R Convery

Armagh

R McGrattan, D Carvill, C Carvill, R Gaffney

B McFall over Karl Stewart? And S McCrory? Hmmmmm have you watched much hurling?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 30, 2012, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2012, 10:49:06 PM
QuoteNothing like massaging my ego on the GAAboard pontificating from the sidelines and offering nothing to humanity while remaining anonymous
;D

Didn't realise he moderated the county guestbook too!
hogwash!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 01, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on October 30, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
few players I feel would make a combined Ulster squad - As I say this is my opinion and with the right training and management structures in places could and I stress could do something down South.

Antrim

DD Quinn, Johnny Campbell, M Scullion, T McCloskey, L Watson, E McCloskey, J Scullion, N McManus, A Graffin, S McNaughton,           R McGarry, C Donnelly, N McAuley, P Shiels, S Dowds, K Molloy, B McFall, S McCrory

Down

C Baillie, S Ennis, C Woods, M Ennis, D Toner, P Braniff

Derry

D McDermott, M Warnock, L Hinphey, O McCloskey, K Hinphey, P Henry, R Convery

Armagh

R McGrattan, D Carvill, C Carvill, R Gaffney

B McFall over Karl Stewart? And S McCrory? Hmmmmm have you watched much hurling?
plus theres lads on here that doesnt make the county team and there making an ulster team??     :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 01, 2012, 06:06:14 PM
And no R. McCloskey?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on November 01, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
baillie and toner not in  that bracket
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on November 02, 2012, 10:04:18 AM
Folks calm down - I forgot about Karl Stewart for the Ulster squad but don't worry he would be in it. Regarding players that are not on the County Squads at present but I have named, you would need to ask the previous and current County Managers why there not in County squads cause I have seen Tony McCloskey and Kevin Molloy numerous times this year and they have been 1st class.

C Baillie and D Toner have played County hurling for at least 1 year now and seemed to feature on the score sheet. Whilst the probably wouldn't start they could be options. Hence I named a panel and not a team!!!

Remember this is my opinion folks!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on November 02, 2012, 10:04:18 AM
Folks calm down - I forgot about Karl Stewart for the Ulster squad but don't worry he would be in it. Regarding players that are not on the County Squads at present but I have named, you would need to ask the previous and current County Managers why there not in County squads cause I have seen Tony McCloskey and Kevin Molloy numerous times this year and they have been 1st class.

C Baillie and D Toner have played County hurling for at least 1 year now and seemed to feature on the score sheet. Whilst the probably wouldn't start they could be options. Hence I named a panel and not a team!!!

Remember this is my opinion folks!!!

Neither are county standard.

This is a pointless debate as its not going to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 02, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
I'd disagree with you there NAG1, throughout the championship and especially in the final both these players had great games. Tony has nailed down a starting place for the All Ireland champions, and Kevin is one the best and most consistent performers for Dunloy, who were only a few points behind the current champions. Both are more than capable of representing Antrim, or at least making the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2012, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 02, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
I'd disagree with you there NAG1, throughout the championship and especially in the final both these players had great games. Tony has nailed down a starting place for the All Ireland champions, and Kevin is one the best and most consistent performers for Dunloy, who were only a few points behind the current champions. Both are more than capable of representing Antrim, or at least making the panel.

Feel free to disagree its all about opinions on here not everyone is going to agree anyway.

IMO both players are good club players, not exceptional and for me thats the difference between a good club player and a county player. I dont see either having the extra gear that it takes to be County standard, to me that happens in the top 2 inches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
2/3 to 1/2 of IC players in Antrim are good club players so I don't get your point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2012, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 02, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
2/3 to 1/2 of IC players in Antrim are good club players so I don't get your point

Simple point is that IMO the two mentioned didnt come up to county standard.

They are good club players not stand out or exceptional.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
If the county team for the up and coming year was picked on stand out and exceptional let's here your starting 11 nag? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2012, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 02, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
If the county team for the up and coming year was picked on stand out and exceptional let's here your starting 11 nag?
We're giving ourselves a lot to do.

Checked out that twitter account you have HS something fishy going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 02, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Is that someone from the county board who are running that twitter page HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 02, 2012, 05:26:13 PM
I just had a look at it there for the first time. I couldn't understand 2 thirds of it. A bit like your posts HS.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
Same as myself HS. Most people from loughgiel who read this or post here know me. so no big deal really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2012, 07:49:31 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 02, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
anyword of Kevin Ryans selectors,

could some one post the Dunloy team that drew with Birr / did it change much from the last Dunloy team to get beat in a club final, was that against who ????? going to say O'connors team from Cork but i am losing touch a little here. Where they newtownshandrum

little project i am working on to stimulate a healthy debate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 02, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
Dunloy Team v Birr 1995

1. Shane Elliott
2. Brian Og Cunning
3. Seamus McMullan
4. Sean McIlhatton
5. Sean 'patch' Mullan
6. Gary O'Kane
7. Frankie McMullan
8. Colm McGuckian
9. Tony McGrath
10. Jarlath Elliott
11. Paul Molloy
12. Nigel Elliott
13. Alastair Elliott
14. Gregory O'Kane
15. Eamon McKee
Subs used: Liam Richmond and Jarlath Cunning

Team v Newtonshamdrum 2004

1. Gareth Magee
2. Sean Mullan
3. Gary O'Kane
4 . Frankie McMullan
5 . Malachy Molloy
6. Mickey McClements
7. Damien McMullan
8. Conor Cunning
9. Paudie McMullan
10. Liam Richmond
11. Colm McGuckian
12. Martin Curry
13. Paddy Richmond
14. Gregory O'Kane
15. Alastair Elliott
Sub used Nigel Elliott

As far as I can remember those where the teams, pappy, patch, dick, ally, Frankie, nancy and niggy played on all 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2012, 12:00:27 AM
Quote from: maxpower on November 02, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
Dunloy Team v Birr 1995

1. Shane Elliott
2. Brian Og Cunning
3. Seamus McMullan
4. Sean McIlhatton
5. Sean 'patch' Mullan
6. Gary O'Kane
7. Frankie McMullan
8. Colm McGuckian
9. Tony McGrath
10. Jarlath Elliott
11. Paul Molloy
12. Nigel Elliott
13. Alastair Elliott
14. Gregory O'Kane
15. Eamon McKee
Subs used: Liam Richmond and Jarlath Cunning

Team v Newtonshamdrum 2004

1. Gareth Mageej
2. Sean Mullan
3. Gary O'Kane
4 . Frankie McMullan
5 . Malachy Molloy
6. Mickey McClements
7. Damien McMullan
8. Conor Cunning
9. Paudie McMullan
10. Liam Richmond
11. Colm McGuckian
12. Martin Curry
13. Paddy Richmond
14. Gregory O'Kane
15. Alastair Elliott
Sub used Nigel Elliott

As far as I can remember those where the teams, pappy, patch, dick, ally, Frankie, nancy and niggy played on all 4

nearly as silly nicknames as Rasharkin men !!

Good job niggy doesnt play professional football in England for Chelsea. John Terry would have a field day and not get in trouble !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 03, 2012, 08:40:24 AM
Indeed it was, went on to play sixmilebridge in the following years All Ireland Final! Beat Johnnies in 1994 final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 04:30:20 PM
see Paul Flynn ex waterford involved in coaching role with the Down hurlers, quite a coo

Shows Down maybe coming out of the recession as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 04:43:21 PM

1.  Gareth Magee
2.  Johnny Campbell
3.  Seamus McMullan
4.  Patch Mullan
5.  Malachy Molloy
6.  Gary o'Kane
7.  Martin Scullion
8.  Nigel Elliot
9.  Eddie McCloskey
10.  Dick O'Kane
11.  Tony McGrath
12.  Laim Watson
13.  Ali Elliot
14.  Paddy Richmond

I know I am one short but had an argument with a mate about what hurlers were better between those antrim clubs who have contested the all Ireland hurling finals.  Reckon Dunloy had the better personal but ultimately came up short.

Would anyone have an opinion ????????????????????

Should have asked for 83 team though wouldn't know those lads or seen them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on November 03, 2012, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 04:43:21 PM

1.  Gareth Magee
2.  Johnny Campbell
3.  Seamus McMullan
4.  Patch Mullan
5.  Malachy Molloy
6.  Gary o'Kane
7.  Martin Scullion
8.  Nigel Elliot
9.  Eddie McCloskey
10.  Dick O'Kane
11.  Tony McGrath
12.  Laim Watson
13.  Ali Elliot
14.  Paddy Richmond

I know I am one short but had an argument with a mate about what hurlers were better between those antrim clubs who have contested the all Ireland hurling finals.  Reckon Dunloy had the better personal but ultimately came up short.

Would anyone have an opinion ????????????????????

Should have asked for 83 team though wouldn't know those lads or seen them.

or even the first antrim team to reach the final in 80 (?)  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2012, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on November 03, 2012, 04:57:56 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 04:43:21 PM

1.  Gareth Magee
2.  Johnny Campbell
3.  Seamus McMullan
4.  Patch Mullan
5.  Malachy Molloy
6.  Gary o'Kane
7.  Martin Scullion
8.  Nigel Elliot
9.  Eddie McCloskey
10.  Dick O'Kane
11.  Tony McGrath
12.  Laim Watson
13.  Ali Elliot
14.  Paddy Richmond

I know I am one short but had an argument with a mate about what hurlers were better between those antrim clubs who have contested the all Ireland hurling finals.  Reckon Dunloy had the better personal but ultimately came up short.

Would anyone have an opinion ????????????????????

Should have asked for 83 team though wouldn't know those lads or seen them.

or even the first antrim team to reach the final in 80 (?)  :D
JC in the full backs? Scully no 7? Eddie in midfield? never!!!!  :) I'd also put Shane Elliott and DD in goals all day long before GM.

What about Rossa in '88?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 03, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 04:30:20 PM
see Paul Flynn ex waterford involved in coaching role with the Down hurlers, quite a coo

Shows Down maybe coming out of the recession as well
The Wing doesn't do low rent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
yeah SIE forgot about Rossa and Ciaran Barr would certainly be there, as would close if he was about that team.  yeah i know the positions aren't perfect but its the hurler i was picking. 

Magee as good as those 2 lads though not as committed to hurling i know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 03, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
yeah SIE forgot about Rossa and Ciaran Barr would certainly be there, as would close if he was about that team.  yeah i know the positions aren't perfect but its the hurler i was picking. 

Magee as good as those 2 lads though not as committed to hurling i know
Beaver McCarry? Eddie Donnelly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
Well saff I love the all-Ireland team and the blatant disregard of Rossa and an all-star in Ciaran Barr.
Silly me - I forgot they are from south if ballymena and not worth remembering about!

Personally I don't like attempting to compare players from different eras - I suppose this thread is because there's little happening on field around us!
The winters is so bleak for us Gaels!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
Well saff I love the all-Ireland team and the blatant disregard of Rossa and an all-star in Ciaran Barr.
Silly me - I forgot they are from south if ballymena and not worth remembering about!

Personally I don't like attempting to compare players from different eras - I suppose this thread is because there's little happening on field around us!
The winters is so bleak for us Gaels!
Speak for yourself.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 04, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?

St Thomas beat Gort in Galway replay, 1-16 to 1-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?

St Thomas beat Gort in Galway replay, 1-16 to 1-15
St. Thomas first senior final. From what I hear from down there they're a serious outfit. Dark horses maybe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 05, 2012, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2012, 01:00:48 AM
'95 was the year Dunloy beat us in the Antrim final?

Shaemy Shannon and tne mighty John Taggert the two wing half forwards, one of them missed a pelenty in that final but i cant remember what one. anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?

St Thomas beat Gort in Galway replay, 1-16 to 1-15
St. Thomas first senior final. From what I hear from down there they're a serious outfit. Dark horses maybe.

Good blend of youth and experience, a right few Galway panelist and players from the club also. Loughrea are no push overs either, should be a hard match, but maybe Loughrea's experiences might be enough to win the game.

If I were a Loughgiel man I'd prefer to play Loughrea over St Thomas's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2012, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?

St Thomas beat Gort in Galway replay, 1-16 to 1-15
St. Thomas first senior final. From what I hear from down there they're a serious outfit. Dark horses maybe.

Good blend of youth and experience, a right few Galway panelist and players from the club also. Loughrea are no push overs either, should be a hard match, but maybe Loughrea's experiences might be enough to win the game.

If I were a Loughgiel man I'd prefer to play Loughrea over St Thomas's
What's the likely path to victory for Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 05, 2012, 12:29:26 PM
I look forward to you building op the opposition from now until February SIE!

I am thinking loughgiel will overcome the Galway champions to be beaten by ballyhale in the final.
I think some "turgid" conditions is the only think will stop ballyhale.

But I have been wrong before as we all know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2012, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 04, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 04, 2012, 02:34:32 PM
True!
Well I suppose it will be quiet in loughguile until the challenge games start!
Possibly clones in February rather than Parnell?

St Thomas beat Gort in Galway replay, 1-16 to 1-15
St. Thomas first senior final. From what I hear from down there they're a serious outfit. Dark horses maybe.

Good blend of youth and experience, a right few Galway panelist and players from the club also. Loughrea are no push overs either, should be a hard match, but maybe Loughrea's experiences might be enough to win the game.

If I were a Loughgiel man I'd prefer to play Loughrea over St Thomas's
What's the likely path to victory for Loughgiel?

Usually to score more points but.....

St Thomas's have good players in David Burke and Joe Cooney, but I think Loughrea will just edge this one and Loughgiel should beat Loughrea in the semis. Job done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
Job done after the semi final stage MR2? You really are starting to sound like a Loughgiel supporter!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 05, 2012, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
Job done after the semi final stage MR2? You really are starting to sound like a Loughgiel supporter!


ffs, at least let us get the new year in b4 we start talking bout club hurling semi finals.

must only be a fortninght b4 county squads can reassemble, with new structure in place boys are allowed back early. anyone know the squad?? :-\ :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
Antrim could of got back the day after they were put out this year and trained 5 times a week, we would still not be any closer, until structures and foundations are changed within the county this will remain the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 06, 2012, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 05, 2012, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on November 05, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
Job done after the semi final stage MR2? You really are starting to sound like a Loughgiel supporter!


ffs, at least let us get the new year in b4 we start talking bout club hurling semi finals.

must only be a fortninght b4 county squads can reassemble, with new structure in place boys are allowed back early. anyone know the squad?? :-\ :-X

Cant see it being much different from last year although I have heard of a few that are not going back, will wait to those are confirmed though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 06, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
Was the new county squad not supposed to have met & trained already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 06, 2012, 09:54:49 AM
There was a list of names announced, have they met already? I'm sure a few clubs will be putting management teams in place at the minute and giving their teams some sort of light winter activity before pre season begins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 06, 2012, 10:29:31 AM
Anyone know if the county squad have met (to train) yet?

What about news of who is taking club sides next year?
Yes Yes SiE - I know you are still on THIS year!

Perhaps AGM's must be completed for this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2012, 07:35:56 PM
I see Sambo got a dig in at Loughgiel in his column in the county Antrim post today. The man just won't let it go. Laughable really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 06, 2012, 08:00:52 PM
What did he say ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
Most of what he said was fair enough about players not turning up for county training. But he only mentioned the Loughgiel players by saying they should have been there even though they wouldn't have been expected to train. (?) He didn't mention players from any other club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 06, 2012, 09:00:10 PM


[/quote]

t Thomas's have good players in David Burke and Joe Cooney, but I think Loughrea will just edge this one and Loughgiel should beat Loughrea in the semis. Job done
[/quote]

think you mean Conor Cooney, MR2, big lad and like Burke extremely fit and mobile.  they are the younger team with great flare and i think if the match was to be in August it would have suited them better.  They are extremely quick and good stick men.  However fancy Loughrea, they are battled hardened and used to playing in poorer conditions. 

Strong all over, if the Shams beat them reckon they'll be hard to beat in Croke.  Reckon Loughrea will have to be at operating above 95% to beat them.  They have super half back line, and mcClearn at full back handy.  Two mahers are 11 and 14, and indeed a handful. 

so is it down to oulart the ballagh and the kilkenny winners or is anyone else left involved in leinster, should be two cracking semis in February.

still no word of Kevin Ryan and the backroom team ???????????/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2012, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 06, 2012, 09:00:10 PM



t Thomas's have good players in David Burke and Joe Cooney, but I think Loughrea will just edge this one and Loughgiel should beat Loughrea in the semis. Job done
[/quote]

think you mean Conor Cooney, MR2, big lad and like Burke extremely fit and mobile.  they are the younger team with great flare and i think if the match was to be in August it would have suited them better.  They are extremely quick and good stick men.  However fancy Loughrea, they are battled hardened and used to playing in poorer conditions. 

Strong all over, if the Shams beat them reckon they'll be hard to beat in Croke.  Reckon Loughrea will have to be at operating above 95% to beat them.  They have super half back line, and mcClearn at full back handy.  Two mahers are 11 and 14, and indeed a handful. 

so is it down to oulart the ballagh and the kilkenny winners or is anyone else left involved in leinster, should be two cracking semis in February.

still no word of Kevin Ryan and the backroom team ???????????/
[/quote]

The one at FF is a real handfull, big fcuker and think he hits the frees. As for their FB line I seen them hack the shit out of Portumna the year the beat them, how a referee let that go on was beyond me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 07, 2012, 01:17:45 PM
Referees at fault again. Surprised at you MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2012, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 06, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
Most of what he said was fair enough about players not turning up for county training. But he only mentioned the Loughgiel players by saying they should have been there even though they wouldn't have been expected to train. (?) He didn't mention players from any other club.

New manager calls meeting, calls up majority of players from LG, players dont show up, Sambo has a column which needs filled, easy canon fodder. Nothing to see here move on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 11:30:57 AM
Please excuse my ignorance;
The new panel were called to a meeting?
Have they been training?
Just Loughgeil players (understandably) missing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 11:30:57 AM
Please excuse my ignorance;
The new panel were called to a meeting?
Have they been training?
Just Loughgeil players (understandably) missing?

I'd say understandably if they had a training session on or match, but if it were just a meeting to discuss the plans for this year then it would not have hurt to show up. I'd say Loughgiel are resting players in preparation for the semi final and if none showed up it seems as if they were collectively told not to bother. Again just hearsay ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 08, 2012, 01:18:10 PM
they are back again, prob doing gym work
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
There were 12 turned up for two training sessions apparently, out of a panel of 30. A third session was canceled. So, unless we had 18 players called up to the panel, there were a fair few from other clubs missing.

As far as I know the panel aren't training this month. Then, as one LG player put it "two months of ball breaking training".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2012, 01:26:50 PM
What is the back room team does anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
There were 12 turned up for two training sessions apparently, out of a panel of 30. A third session was canceled. So, unless we had 18 players called up to the panel, there were a fair few from other clubs missing.

As far as I know the panel aren't training this month. Then, as one LG player put it "two months of ball breaking training".

No training, I wouldn't expect our lads to be training at the football camp either, though I'd expect them to at least show up at the meeting and listen to the new managers ideas for the year ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
There were 12 turned up for two training sessions apparently, out of a panel of 30. A third session was canceled. So, unless we had 18 players called up to the panel, there were a fair few from other clubs missing.

As far as I know the panel aren't training this month. Then, as one LG player put it "two months of ball breaking training".

So we have a new manager - and the fresh impetus brought 12 hurlers to a county team training session?
Good God of Almighty! Is this true?
If it is the Loughgiel boys are at least the ones with the best excuse!
Whats going on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2012, 02:27:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
There were 12 turned up for two training sessions apparently, out of a panel of 30. A third session was canceled. So, unless we had 18 players called up to the panel, there were a fair few from other clubs missing.

As far as I know the panel aren't training this month. Then, as one LG player put it "two months of ball breaking training".

No training, I wouldn't expect our lads to be training at the football camp either, though I'd expect them to at least show up at the meeting and listen to the new managers ideas for the year ahead.

+1

I would imagine they wouldnt be seen again until their participation in the All Ireland series was over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 08, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
I also heard about the 20 something players at the initial meeting - disgrace. 12 or so at 2 trainings and one further training cancelled - also a disgrace. What must Kevin Ryan be thinking when he drives up here to be met with that. I just don't know anymore.

On the league restructuring topic. There is a lot of gossip doing the rounds of the four teams up into div 1 etc etc. Is there a date or a meeting at which this will be decided????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 08, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
Nag 1........ will that be February or March, I wonder ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2012, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 11, 2012, 03:17:24 PM
My belief is that because we are minnows at IC level, the top hurlers from the top clubs feel that they will get more recognition representing their clubs in a county championship and for some a run in the all ireland series is always a possibiliy. In the top counties you could be a great club hurler but never get any decent recognition of your craft if your from one of the countless teams in that county who will never win a county title. Its seen as a huge honour to be selected out of a massive playing population and seems to be they all grab their opertunity with both hands. In Antrim theres a could take it or leave it attitude to a call up as theres an almost certain pointlessness to it. That attitude exists in the supporters as well (myself included  :-\ )

The way the IC championship is set up and the popularity of the AI club series, I reckon Antrim wont break much delft in the years ahead.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 08, 2012, 02:41:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
There were 12 turned up for two training sessions apparently, out of a panel of 30. A third session was canceled. So, unless we had 18 players called up to the panel, there were a fair few from other clubs missing.

As far as I know the panel aren't training this month. Then, as one LG player put it "two months of ball breaking training".

Did the individuals on this panel of 30 express an interest in committing to playing intercounty hurling or was it just assumed they'd want to play for Antrim?

If they'd given a commitment to the manager and then only 12 turned up then that's bad work on each individual players part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
The  Loughgiel players aren't committing to anything until after their participation in the all Ireland. They are currently in the middle of a training break.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 08, 2012, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
The  Loughgiel players aren't committing to anything until after their participation in the all Ireland. They are currently in the middle of a training break.

So they couldnt have gone along for an hour long meeting to hear what the new manager was all about and where he was headed with the squad? Poor fare in my opinion but since they were on a training break maybe they should be forgiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
As regards the loughgiel boys:

1) it would have been preferable for the loughgiel boys to attend particularly as its a new manager
2) however they are on a break and not currently part of the panel for obvious reasons - so can't be punished as such for not attending

What is of greater concern to me is that there are seemingly many other who didn't attend and do not have such a reason!
Kevin Ryan I don't think can be blamed on this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 06:30:24 PM
And what about the other players from other clubs that didn't turn up nag? Why are you and your fellow Dall man shy in mentioning them?

maybe when they return to the fold they might get a pass given to them this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 08, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
Antrim Hurling never fails to mess about

the shamrock brigade should show to a meeting and Ryan discuss his plans.  thats a given i think.  the loughgiel boys off course shouldn't be asked to do anything else in that regards until they finish with the shamrocks.  if they are on a break at the minute then even better for them to make meeting

for the rest a bit of a disgrace.  however all those players i hope were properly informed about attending and contacted as opposed to seeing name on a list somewhere, even if it is through thier secretary in the club

not sure about mighty sambo and his involvement, please tell me he isn't on panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
For what its worth lads, the Loughgiel players were excused from attending the meeting and training by K. Ryan himself. He met the Loughgiel lads in Loughgiel on another date.

But why let the facts get in the way of a newspaper article or rumour mongering, eh?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 08, 2012, 08:51:31 PM
no problem then from loughgiel brigade.  who were the lads that didn't turn up ???????/

was going to say name them, did this thing not happen before lads didn't show up and were named

one things for sure Kevin Ryan must be thinking we are some lot

the good thing is then SIE we might finally have to go with the full sham 15 for the county and it will settle a few old arguments that have been on this board

reckon you should write in and let The Ulster Hurler of the Century KNOW, i'm sure it would give you a little satisfaction
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
For what its worth lads, the Loughgiel players were excused from attending the meeting and training by K. Ryan himself. He met the Loughgiel lads in Loughgiel on another date.

But why let the facts get in the way of a newspaper article or rumour mongering, eh?  ::)

Now if he said that or done that why did you not come out and say that at the start of the thread?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
Is sambo involved in the county set up again?
Really?
Surely not?
It cannot be?
Not even in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
For what its worth lads, the Loughgiel players were excused from attending the meeting and training by K. Ryan himself. He met the Loughgiel lads in Loughgiel on another date.

But why let the facts get in the way of a newspaper article or rumour mongering, eh?  ::)

Now if he said that or done that why did you not come out and say that at the start of the thread?
this is what happened Mr2. I just give you the facts rather than nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 10:21:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
Is sambo involved in the county set up again?
Really?
Surely not?
It cannot be?
Not even in Antrim?
I don't think anyone knows yet, if they do they're keeping it quiet. We haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 08, 2012, 11:10:02 PM
Cormac Donnelly opting out of county setup next season according to Irish News.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 08, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 08, 2012, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 08, 2012, 11:10:02 PM
Cormac Donnelly opting out of county setup next season according to Irish News.
Can only assume he doesn't plan to be in the country next year??

Dunno, story is due to be in Irish News tomorrow, saw it on their Twitter feed there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 08, 2012, 11:23:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 08, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 08, 2012, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 08, 2012, 11:10:02 PM
Cormac Donnelly opting out of county setup next season according to Irish News.
Can only assume he doesn't plan to be in the country next year??

Dunno, story is due to be in Irish News tomorrow, saw it on their Twitter feed there.
I heard he was unhappy at how things were handled during his suspension this year..although not 100% sure on that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 08, 2012, 11:29:58 PM
Know his club manager well - he has issues with county board not settled since last year and is a massive club man. Ballycastle expect him to hurl all season for them not going abroad.
I would not be surprised if he joined the county set up at a later date however.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2012, 06:17:52 AM
I heard shorty didn't show either. Both he and hippy would be a big loss for the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2012, 08:47:42 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2012, 06:17:52 AM
I heard shorty didn't show either. Both he and hippy would be a big loss for the county.

The word I have is that both will not be joining the squad and will be playing for their clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
Just read Cormac Donnelly's article.

I have to say he comes across very well in it.
Firstly he states his desire and pride to play for the county - and further he had the courtesy to meet with Kevin Ryan.

However he says he has simply no choice with his current injuries but to opt out. Maybe he is right - a player of his physical size is boung to put pressure on the body and he he doesnt get these sorted out in his younger years his career will be cut short.

Antrim's loss will be Ballycastle's gain.

What is the issue with Shiels from Dunloy?

I still can't get my head round those turnouts for training - Skull's point regarding why players do not commit is smack bang on the money as far as I am concerned. I dont like the lack of commitment but I can see why it has happened.
I wonder what our friends in Casement or the Glensmen are doing about it?
Probably nothing - protecting their own little empires.

It must be baffling for Southerners to see a county which has the All Ireland Club Champions not be able to throw out a decent effort of a county side. If only they knew!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 09, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
It is up to every player to decide what they want.  County hurling is only for you if you enjoy it.  IMHO it demands too much of a young mans life.  Every county pushing to do a wee bit more than the others, even mediocre performance demands serious time commitments.  I honestly believe it is time for the GAA to go down the route of 'International Soccer' in terms of county selections and preparation

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: maxpower on November 09, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
It is up to every player to decide what they want.  County hurling is only for you if you enjoy it.  IMHO it demands too much of a young mans life.  Every county pushing to do a wee bit more than the others, even mediocre performance demands serious time commitments.  I honestly believe it is time for the GAA to go down the route of 'International Soccer' in terms of county selections and preparation

I would agree that county hurling suits some guys but not all. There are weekends away that are even unseen from most casual observers, then the cries of derision when it doesnt go according to plan.

Also in fairness CD is getting on like he is a veteran of 10yrs + releasing a statement that he cant commit, how many seasons, full seasons has he played for Antrim or Ballycastle for that matter?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
I agree about the time commitments - its' no problem doing this when you are in Kilkenny or Tipp and there's a job or social status included.
Bu as Skull says - there isnt the same recognition up here yet the time demands are essentially the same - so thats why so many won't commit and I can see their point.

Without sounding like a Ballycastle man - its a slow time for the GAA in newspapers so I would imagine the Irish News contacted Donnelly in looking for a quich space filler rather than the other way around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2012, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
I agree about the time commitments - its' no problem doing this when you are in Kilkenny or Tipp and there's a job or social status included.
Bu as Skull says - there isnt the same recognition up here yet the time demands are essentially the same - so thats why so many won't commit and I can see their point.

Without sounding like a Ballycastle man - its a slow time for the GAA in newspapers so I would imagine the Irish News contacted Donnelly in looking for a quich space filler rather than the other way around.

The thing is the time commitment is not the same in these counties as they are only an hour or so away from each other.
Thats the point Antrim are training roughly the same amount of times as these guys and playing similar amount of games, jsut takes Antrim a full weekend to get a few challenge games, rather than just a skip down the road for a challenge game mid week for the other counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 11:40:10 AM
Yes I understand and agree with the point for matches being further away - I was talking about training - particularly this time of year.
Its the same 3 nights say regardless if you are Kilkenny Tipp or Antrim.

But the longer miles and nights away needed for challenge games etc is indeed another reason why players won't commit if they dont see anything at the end of it.

Adds to Skull's orginal point some time back.
In a nutshell - would a guy give up a few nights a week and be away all weekend when he will be effectively guaranteed to be on a losing side as soon as a meaningful game comes up?
Or would he rather figure in his own community and a shot at a club all-ireland, with less travelling.
Its a no-brainer for many unfortunatley.

And I dont see anyone in a suit doing anything to change it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 09, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
shorty wants a break as far as i know. i assume he will join later.

dont blame cormac as he had a few injuries and would prob need a break to fully recover to play for his club. great hurler, one i like a lot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2012, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
shorty wants a break as far as i know. i assume he will join later.

dont blame cormac as he had a few injuries and would prob need a break to fully recover to play for his club. great hurler, one i like a lot.

Yeah I would prefer he took a break completely rather than being injured one week for the County team and unable to field and then fit again the next Sunday for his club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 03:15:34 PM
Playing only club for one year will lessen the demands on the body and less injuries in the long term which can only benefit Antrim - thats why I was pleased to read his commitment to the county. Its unfortunate but fair enough all round.

I am surprised the new manager has given dispensation to Shiels to join later, would have thought he would have put a marker down of full effort from everyone from the off - especially as the Loughgeil boys are missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 09, 2012, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 03:15:34 PM
Playing only club for one year will lessen the demands on the body and less injuries in the long term which can only benefit Antrim - thats why I was pleased to read his commitment to the county. Its unfortunate but fair enough all round.

I am surprised the new manager has given dispensation to Shiels to join later, would have thought he would have put a marker down of full effort from everyone from the off - especially as the Loughgeil boys are missing.

This is Antrim we're talking about here - lay down a marker like that and you'll get boys saying "See ya!". Sad, but that's the way it seems to be . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
btdtgtt the way youre talking you would think these boys never showed commitment in their lives. Catch yourselves on

Shorty for instance has been an county player since he was 15 or 16. I've seen him train for years and he leaves nothing on the pitch.

This blind assumption that every talented player should be a slave to the idea that playing intercounty is what its all about. If your from a weak county suffering from a combination of poor leadership/structures/playing numbers/coaching numbers/support etc etc, that ideal wears a bit thin.

In agreement with with max. Same as international football and treat the players well with the money saved on travelling expenses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
Not at all skull.
I understand why (and agree) with managers giving some players (in this case shiels) extra time off.
I am just saying that I am surprised Kevin Ryan did - I assumed the new regime he would like to implement he would want everyone there - and purely and simply numbers since he is missing the shamrocks.
I might also venture to say this is true - you might find out in due course that he told at least 2players they should report now or never.
That said - I feel because of the lack if depth available this will be reconsidered. With players introduced later in the new year.

Mind you - no way did shiels play senior county hurling at 15-16. No chance at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2012, 05:57:28 PM
Note...I never mentioned 'senior'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
Well in that case it's a mute point!
Most of the panel woulda played county hurling at underage as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on November 09, 2012, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2012, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
shorty wants a break as far as i know. i assume he will join later.

dont blame cormac as he had a few injuries and would prob need a break to fully recover to play for his club. great hurler, one i like a lot.

Yeah I would prefer he took a break completely rather than being injured one week for the County team and unable to field and then fit again the next Sunday for his club.

??????????

and  how many times did this happen  ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 09, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
Tragic that Hippy won't be with the county next year. He has great leadership qualities and I'd have liked to see him as captain of the team but he needs to do whats best for himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 09, 2012, 09:00:37 PM
Prize Fund

Thanks to the generous sponsorship of RedFM, the Senior Hurling League is particularly lucrative.

The winning club receives €4000, with €2000 going to the beaten finalists. The other four teams who reach the knockout stages receive €1000 each, adding up to an impressive €10,000 in total.

....

Is there any prize money on offer for our leagues?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 09, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Seems there's a distinct lack of enthusiasm for all things County, both from clubs and players alike.........wonder why ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 09, 2012, 09:39:14 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 09, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Seems there's a distinct lack of enthusiasm for all things County, both from clubs and players alike.........wonder why ?
Maybe the boys on the panel see the success of the Shamrocks against the comparative failure at county level and fancy a piece of that action. Obviously not as easy as that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 10, 2012, 12:17:15 PM
Just thinking recently on ways to improve our own club championship! As I see it two flaws in the current system.  One is the number of games is limited and two is (and no disrespect meant here) but the Ulster Championship has become a bit of a step down in standard!

Would it be possible to merge the championships.  A bit like the six nations in Rugby.

Top 8 teams in Antrim, top 3 in Down and top 4 in Derry, best of the rest!

4 groups of four!

For example - Loughgiel, ballycran, Rossa, dungiven.

Top team gets home advantage on QF against second places teams. Bottom of each group goes into a relegation play off with each other, with ulster intermediate champions coming up.

If an Antrim team wins they are awarded Antrim and Ulster Championships. Whichever down team does best gets a bye to down final. Who ever does 'worse' loses home advantage

Same applies to Derry teams!

Not without flaws but every team gets 4 meaningful championship games at least and even the group games would be a high standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
Radical.
I love the sentiments behind it - would be fantastic competition.
Usual problems but mostly will never happen due absence of forward thinking by powers that be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Wouldn't work in practice for a couple of reasons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 10, 2012, 05:43:05 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 09, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Seems there's a distinct lack of enthusiasm for all things County, both from clubs and players alike.........wonder why ?

I think clubs, fans and players are still feeling the tremors from the disaster that was last year. Hippy and shorty have been going at county level since minor and have seen a lot of false dawns along the way. we cant come on here and criticise them when they just don't have the stomach for it at present. The apathy shown by all clubs(generally not all members)towards county is a big problem. I feel alot of people are a bit disillusioned with our county board (they are not behind the door at hammering clubs with fines and stuff but when it came to showing hippy some support this summer they chickened out). We are in a bad place, but when you look at Laois they seem to be going through the same motions. maybe the dedication required even to hold out own(div 2) just doesn't seem worth it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 10, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Wouldn't work in practice for a couple of reasons

  • Not much chance of silverware for Down or Derry
  • Overlap with Derry football championships impossible

I take point 2 but if an Antrim team won the championship the Down and Derry Championships would still happen. Home advantage for performing well in the Antrim championship!

Derry football would be the biggest practical concern. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 10, 2012, 08:16:08 PM
Interesting proposal Maxpower. Worth considering I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2012, 08:33:10 PM
All the considering Lecale2 wont change the fact that the Derry Co Board wouldn't sanction it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 10, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Wouldn't work in practice for a couple of reasons

  • Not much chance of silverware for Down or Derry
  • Overlap with Derry football championships impossible
a home game once in a while would obviously help in point 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 11, 2012, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 10, 2012, 08:33:10 PM
All the considering Lecale2 wont change the fact that the Derry Co Board wouldn't sanction it.

True enough. When Frankie Q first proposed the Ulster club league the Derry Board were the only county against it on principle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
The Loughgiel lads should be interested in this game today, could end up meeting this team in the final

Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) v Sarsfields (Cork), Thurles, 2pm think it's on tg4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 11, 2012, 12:23:10 PM
Ballyhale might have something to say about that mr2!
All shamrock final for my money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
Ballyhale aren't out of Kilkenny yet lads. It isn't a foregone conclusion that they will either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
16 mins gone in Kilkenny final. Ballyhale 5-4 up. They were 4-0 up after 10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
16 mins gone in Kilkenny final. Ballyhale 5-4 up. They were 4-0 up after 10.

Sounds a bit turgid to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 02:57:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
16 mins gone in Kilkenny final. Ballyhale 5-4 up. They were 4-0 up after 10.

Sounds a bit turgid to me.
far from it. 7-5 to Ballyhale. 23 minutes gone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
Ballyhale have had 2 penalties saved. 8-6 to Ballyhale nearly half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
.Half time. Ballyhale 9 dicksboro 7. Great game.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
Shamrocks 11- 8, 5 gone 2nd half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 04:07:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
.Half time. Ballyhale 9 dicksboro 7. Great game.  ;)

Sounds a bit turgid to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
Ballyhale won 16 - 12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
Ballyhale won 16 - 12.

Bad conditions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
Ballyhale won 16 - 12.

Bad conditions?
nope. Scored as much in the first half as what was scored in the whole Galway semi. not comparable in the slightest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 03:08:40 PM
Anyone read the irish news interview with kevin ryan today?

It makes very interesting, if slightly depressing, reading.

He wants a clean slate and seems to want everything out in the open which is good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on November 12, 2012, 03:11:01 PM
Read that, seems happy to move on with committed players - fair play to him!
I remember Limerick did something similar a few years ago though! :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 12, 2012, 03:11:54 PM
Shamrocks must be hot favourites for all ireland now considering the low scoring in the galway and kilkenny games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 03:18:32 PM
Any team with Henry Shefflin on it would be favourites almost any day. Lot of people making a lot of an innocuous turgud comment...

Lar Corbett and Paudie Maher on Thurles team will be hard to watch too.

What else can he do DearyMe? I was worried he'd bail out like Wallace but doesn't sound like he will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on November 12, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
True Tommy, im behind him 100%, so long as he sticks to it.  I hate when managers make statements and go back on their word due to pressures form clubs, county boards etc.  I admire his attitude and support it.

I hope players buy into it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2012, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 03:18:32 PM
Any team with Henry Shefflin on it would be favourites almost any day. Lot of people making a lot of an innocuous turgud comment...

Lar Corbett and Paudie Maher on Thurles team will be hard to watch too.

What else can he do DearyMe? I was worried he'd bail out like Wallace but doesn't sound like he will.

What?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
As I said before ballyhale are justifiable favourites.
Loughgiel won't mind that tho! It suits them - but the ballyhale forward line is vastly superior to anything loughgiel faced last year.

I didn't get to read the Kevin Ryan interview - can anyone post it if not maybe the main quotes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2012, 09:45:19 PM
Lots of questions being asked about commitment of players really. Not great reading though he still reckons he can work with it. Sounds like he's surprised at how big the job is with the main job being mentality between club rivalries and commitments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
The club rivalries preventing county progress not gettin boring anyone?
I mean Kilkenny & Galway clubs are hell for leather more so than our clubs (see earlier thread on southern/northern physicality)
But they can get it going for the county jersey.

Therefore I suggest it's not so much club rivalries as individual personalities?
For instance - can loughgiel & cushendall agree on one common difficulty which prevents players uniting for Antrim? I haven't heard it! Many suggestions & allegations but nothing concrete.

So I think club rivalry is a convenient excuse for weak personalities that don't want to commit to antrim. To be blunt we have too many egos with too high opinions of themselves.

Just a thought. Anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 13, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
The club rivalries preventing county progress not gettin boring anyone?
I mean Kilkenny & Galway clubs are hell for leather more so than our clubs (see earlier thread on southern/northern physicality)
But they can get it going for the county jersey.

Therefore I suggest it's not so much club rivalries as individual personalities?
For instance - can loughgiel & cushendall agree on one common difficulty which prevents players uniting for Antrim? I haven't heard it! Many suggestions & allegations but nothing concrete.

So I think club rivalry is a convenient excuse for weak personalities that don't want to commit to antrim. To be blunt we have too many egos with too high opinions of themselves.

Just a thought. Anyone?
Yip agree with all of the above but its still a big ask for an Antrim hurler to give the commitment req'd. As a county we currently don't have the resourses to facillitate it in the same way Kilkenny,Tippetc do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2012, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 13, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
The club rivalries preventing county progress not gettin boring anyone?
I mean Kilkenny & Galway clubs are hell for leather more so than our clubs (see earlier thread on southern/northern physicality)
But they can get it going for the county jersey.

Therefore I suggest it's not so much club rivalries as individual personalities?
For instance - can loughgiel & cushendall agree on one common difficulty which prevents players uniting for Antrim? I haven't heard it! Many suggestions & allegations but nothing concrete.

So I think club rivalry is a convenient excuse for weak personalities that don't want to commit to antrim. To be blunt we have too many egos with too high opinions of themselves.

Just a thought. Anyone?
Yip agree with all of the above but its still a big ask for an Antrim hurler to give the commitment req'd. As a county we currently don't have the resourses to facillitate it in the same way Kilkenny,Tippetc do.

Has to be said it is down to the manager to create an atmosphere and environment that the players actually want to be part of. I know in this case it is difficult to gauge this with the low turn out for the meeting and first training sessions.

However as it goes down the line it is the role of the manager to make it a place that players want to be, that they can see is improving them as players and that they they enjoy, that is the only way that you will get anyone to commit to anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2012, 10:09:12 AM
Couldnt disagree with you more NAG1. He cannot create a reality in a vacuum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2012, 05:45:45 PM
The trials are this Saturday and the following Saturday.  Can't wait for Sambo's column next where he apologises for getting his facts wrong in last Weeks column.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2012, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 13, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
The club rivalries preventing county progress not gettin boring anyone?
I mean Kilkenny & Galway clubs are hell for leather more so than our clubs (see earlier thread on southern/northern physicality)
But they can get it going for the county jersey.

Therefore I suggest it's not so much club rivalries as individual personalities?
For instance - can loughgiel & cushendall agree on one common difficulty which prevents players uniting for Antrim? I haven't heard it! Many suggestions & allegations but nothing concrete.

So I think club rivalry is a convenient excuse for weak personalities that don't want to commit to antrim. To be blunt we have too many egos with too high opinions of themselves.

Just a thought. Anyone?
Yip agree with all of the above but its still a big ask for an Antrim hurler to give the commitment req'd. As a county we currently don't have the resourses to facillitate it in the same way Kilkenny,Tippetc do.

Has to be said it is down to the manager to create an atmosphere and environment that the players actually want to be part of. I know in this case it is difficult to gauge this with the low turn out for the meeting and first training sessions.

However as it goes down the line it is the role of the manager to make it a place that players want to be, that they can see is improving them as players and that they they enjoy, that is the only way that you will get anyone to commit to anything.
uck lord god would you wise up.  down to the manager my balls!!  its not u 14.   any man thats hurling for the county shouldnt need any special f**king atmosphere,   take there heads out of there own arses would be the best place to start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2012, 08:49:04 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2012, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 13, 2012, 09:30:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
The club rivalries preventing county progress not gettin boring anyone?
I mean Kilkenny & Galway clubs are hell for leather more so than our clubs (see earlier thread on southern/northern physicality)
But they can get it going for the county jersey.

Therefore I suggest it's not so much club rivalries as individual personalities?
For instance - can loughgiel & cushendall agree on one common difficulty which prevents players uniting for Antrim? I haven't heard it! Many suggestions & allegations but nothing concrete.

So I think club rivalry is a convenient excuse for weak personalities that don't want to commit to antrim. To be blunt we have too many egos with too high opinions of themselves.

Just a thought. Anyone?
Yip agree with all of the above but its still a big ask for an Antrim hurler to give the commitment req'd. As a county we currently don't have the resourses to facillitate it in the same way Kilkenny,Tippetc do.

Has to be said it is down to the manager to create an atmosphere and environment that the players actually want to be part of. I know in this case it is difficult to gauge this with the low turn out for the meeting and first training sessions.

However as it goes down the line it is the role of the manager to make it a place that players want to be, that they can see is improving them as players and that they they enjoy, that is the only way that you will get anyone to commit to anything.
**k lord god would you wise up.  down to the manager my balls!!  its not u 14.   any man thats hurling for the county shouldnt need any special f**king atmosphere,   take there heads out of there own arses would be the best place to start.

What a well thought out response SG, just keep doing what we've always done and we will always get what we have always got.

Unless a player thinks that the set up is good and that it is going places and worthwhile being part of then none of them are going to commit the time and effort necessary to be even competitive at this level. So yes it is up to the manager to get a set up that is valued and that the players actually want to be a part of. I think you will find it is the complete opposite to what you say, any man that is going to give up his time away from family and friends deserves to have a special atmosphere around the county team, it should be special its the pinnacle of what we as a county can offer out best hurlers. Yes I take on board skulls point that maybe this cant be created in a vacuum but then again we get into a chicken and egg situation. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
How does a man create this before he starts NAG??

Fair play to him for coming out and being open and honest about it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 14, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
How does a man create this before he starts NAG??

Fair play to him for coming out and being open and honest about it.

An outside manager can come in with a clean slate, no club prejudices to deal with and all that and all he can do is create an environment where the players feel valued and treated equal.

The manager would need to also get them to buy into his methods in terms of fitness, coaching and tactics, but as the man is only just in the job he hasn't been given a fair chance and possibly if players have been shoddily treated by the county board then Ryan will have an uphill battle as much with the county board as the players.


The players if they've agreed to commit should be giving Ryan a fighting chance, so hopefully attendances will improve, but old habits die hard and if players are used to turning up to training once in a while and still getting handed a starting jersey then Ryan will need to make a statement of intent with his first selections if he wants to break this mould.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2012, 09:37:45 AM
ITG

I guess it cant be created before he starts and as Skull says it is difficult to do it currently because it will be a bit in isolation.

IMO it starts from the first meeting (not great as we know) as to his vision, goals and ethics around where he sees the squad going and most of all how he intends to get them there.
In Antrim we dont have the resources that others have so we have to be innovative and creative in the way we do things and he should try to do this.

But if he gets it right and the players buy in then the word will soon spread that it is a quality place to be part of and then the momentum shifts.

I know this is a bit idealistic but IMHO this is the managers role. Not to be picking up cones and bibs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 10:30:52 AM
Yeah well a manager needs to manage relationships and all that business and a coaching strategy but at the end of the day the coaches will do the coaching.

There is part of the issue though - it starts at the first meeting. What chance does the guy have if no-one turns up!

I don't think our problem lies with resources at all. We are currently in a halfway house. We are far too good for the christy ring and not good enough for the liam mccarthy. Yes we are better than some teams in it but there is a sizeable gap to the teams above us. To close that gap to the teams above would involve a massive commitment and I'm not sure a lot of guys are prepared to put that in irrespective of the manager. We won't win the all ireland but  it would be great to see us challenging dublins, offalys, wexfords, clares etc. If the commitment were there then I see no reason why we shouldn't be. We won't get near KK, Cork, Waterford, Galway and a few others but we can close the gap. The commitment required to do that would be massive though and I don't think a lot of guys are prepared to put that in.

I think Ryan has addressed things correctly going to the paper and I think he advanced Carlow massively in his time there and would be a good one if players buy in. Unfortunately seems like a big if though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
To close the gap you need a good youth development structure AND younsters/parents prepared to put in the effort to commit properly to that structure.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 14, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
To close the gap you need a good youth development structure AND younsters/parents prepared to put in the effort to commit properly to that structure.

Skull agreed, but then if we hand these better developed kids to people at the top end who dont have a clue how to mould them then it is never going to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 14, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 14, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 14, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
To close the gap you need a good youth development structure AND younsters/parents prepared to put in the effort to commit properly to that structure.

Skull agreed, but then if we hand these better developed kids to people at the top end who dont have a clue how to mould them then it is never going to happen.

The counties on the rise such as Clare and Dublin developed the youth, winning and competing for minor and U-21 championships on a regular basis now. With that structure in place they can then concentrate on their senior set ups.

It's how Kilkenny developed into the beast it is now, with domination of underage hurling for most of a decade feeding into a senior set up and that was before Cody took the helm.

Good development structures will also instill into players the type of effort that will be required of them, so its no real shock to them when they make the step up to full intercounty senior panels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
Couldn't agree more Johnny cool.

Our problem is too many (salaried) officials happy to throw together token gestures at this then gloss up their job. It's about their own empires not genuine hurling development.

I for one have stopped going to woodlands to watch 2 nephews blitz competitions run by certain officials - they don't care, then the event is a half-ass job - and it feeds thru to the kids. It's just a box ticking exercise to justify their jobs - then they go back to their wee empire.

I believe NA make a better job of it but likely still behind our southern counterparts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 05:11:01 PM
Yes understandably we can look to underage setups etc etc and how we can improve that.

However how does that help Kevin Ryan?

Let's not forget that some of these boys were in very competitive underage teams so it's not like they were left behind from an early age. Granted there has been no continuity in that or perhaps it was just fortunate to have such a good group of players at one age but there is the basis of some very good players in antrim if they pull together. Liam Watson and Shane McNaughton are superb forwards and the like of McManus, Graffin, McAuley etc aren't exatcly average either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
A case for Watson - the rest are excellent hurlers by Antrim standards - but distinctly average when compared to the top counties.
Sounds harsh but I think that's true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 14, 2012, 10:35:49 PM
nag it wasnt a book i was writing,   all i was try to get across was that  IMO its the players that needs to sort themselves out.  and not the manager needing to give any sort of special treatment. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
A case for Watson - the rest are excellent hurlers by Antrim standards - but distinctly average when compared to the top counties.
Sounds harsh but I think that's true.

Do you think mcmanus is distinctly average?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 14, 2012, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
A case for Watson - the rest are excellent hurlers by Antrim standards - but distinctly average when compared to the top counties.
Sounds harsh but I think that's true.

Do you think mcmanus is distinctly average?

Compared to the top players he said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 11:14:23 PM
I wouldn't say mcmanus is distinctly average compared to boys from the top counties at all. Maybe tries to a bit much himself at times and boyslike cody etc wouldn't let him away with that but far from average compared to anyone in my view.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2012, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2012, 11:14:23 PM
I wouldn't say mcmanus is distinctly average compared to boys from the top counties at all. Maybe tries to a bit much himself at times and boyslike cody etc wouldn't let him away with that but far from average compared to anyone in my view.

Would say the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2012, 11:45:24 PM
Well I stick by that statement.

McManus plays centre back or centre forward.

At centre back: does he compare to Brian hogan, Michael Walsh or tony og regan.
At centre forward: does he compare to shefflin, maher, or a 21yr old Niall Burke.

I don't think so.

Fantastic hurler within Antrim and one of our county's finest - but yes average "compared to the top counties" is what I said.
And if this is the case with Neil it is even more evident with the others you mentioned - if they were all at the top level we simply wouldn't be getting beaten by Westmeath!
Facts lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2012, 08:19:00 AM
Fact that we were beaten by westmeath yes.  The guy is a chb who have used to plug a gap in forwards a la gary o'kane.

There's nothing better about tony og regan than mcmanus. Hogan yes and probably brick walsh. If you use a basis of 3 players like that then a lot of distinctly average centre backs about in any scheme.

With full commitment i don't think westmeath are within ten and maybe fifteen points of us as per the previous year. Note the full commitment part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2012, 08:59:48 AM
fact is folks we have good club players that when playing for the county become distinctly average, and thats all all of them.

for as great a hurler liam watson hes the best club player in antrim but you could barely remember him playing well for antrim. same aplies to alot of others.

Neill mc manus is slightly differnet imo as he has been antrims main scorer for the past few seasons. maybe alot of frees but he still chips in with a hell of a lot of scores. by the way im not saying neils better than laim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2012, 09:07:30 AM
Club and county are leagues apart. Watson has done well enough at times but against the big guns we have taken some awful beatings and no one player could stand out in that in my view. Against Limerick and the likes there'd hardly be ball getting to the like of Watson.

I do think we have a few boys who are in the grand scheme of things above distinctly average. YOu can use the westmeath argument but at the end of the day it's nearly the same boys who beat Dublin the previous year.(or was it the year before).

Watson and McManus are good in the grand scheme of things in my view and Shane McNaughton getting there too. That's compared to most teams. We don't have 15 in that mould and it would seem we don't have commited players either so none of that really matters at present unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
Again...players dont live in a vacuum either. The lack of commitment as you call it stems from a general lack of enthusiasm/passion for all things IC related in this County for various reasons I'm sure. No point putting the lack of commitment at the door of those who have dedicated themselves to the game to get to IC standard. We're just not a very well joined up County.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 15, 2012, 05:04:01 PM
Mc Manus has played consistently well for Antrim for the last 3 or 4 years whether that be against Div 1 or Div 2 teams. Watson on the other hand has had one spectacular game for Antrim against Cork when he scored 6 points. Mc Manus actually scored 7 in that game as well. Mc Manus is consistent, Watson on the other hand could beat the world on his own but for the next 3 matches he might not feature at all. The same year he hit 6 points against Cork he didn't register a single score against Offaly. Down in Parnell Park he came on at half time, played the second half and extra time and never struck leather. No doubting he is the most talented hurler in Ulster but I don't know if he is the best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2012, 05:10:52 PM
Interesting point JJ but I still can't accept we have 5or6 players that match the top counties.
1or2 some people can make a case for but not me there either if I am honest.
Results don't lie - even if the better players were as individuals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2012, 06:21:55 PM
Eddie McCloskey has been the best player in Antrim this year by a mile. He's starting to mature into a class player capable of gracing any county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 15, 2012, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2012, 06:21:55 PM
Eddie McCloskey has been the best player in Antrim this year by a mile. He's starting to mature into a class player capable of gracing any county team.

Good player, but that just isn't true, doesent matter how often you say it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 15, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
McCloskey's young,and a very impressive hurler,no matter what YOU say Saffrongael.And he's modest too,not like some players mentioned  in this forum who's heads are a lot bigger that their talent.What have some of them ever achieved,mention them in Kilkenny or Cork and no one has ever heard of them.Age is catching up with a lot of our prima donnas,soon they be "hurlers on the ditch" like the rest of us,and no one wiil care.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
Strictly on performance I agree McCloskey has been the player of the year - fantastic talent.
But again - grace any county team? I don't think so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2012, 07:51:51 PM
We'll not have to mention Liam again, he's not playing for the county next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 15, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
Not the first time we've heard that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 15, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 15, 2012, 07:44:04 PM
McCloskey's young,and a very impressive hurler,no matter what YOU say Saffrongael.And he's modest too,not like some players mentioned  in this forum who's heads are a lot bigger that their talent.What have some of them ever achieved,mention them in Kilkenny or Cork and no one has ever heard of them.Age is catching up with a lot of our prima donnas,soon they be "hurlers on the ditch" like the rest of us,and no one wiil care.
What prima donna's are they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2012, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 15, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
Not the first time we've heard that
Indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 15, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
Is there any1 who would honestly say they would put Antrim over there club?    Now don't all Jump on me at once!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 15, 2012, 10:27:27 PM
We have prima donnas in Antrim, big within their clubs, but average when compared to their Southern counterparts.Would one Antrim hurler get on the Kilkenny team or even on the subs bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 15, 2012, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 15, 2012, 08:53:02 PM
Is there any1 who would honestly say they would put Antrim over there club?    Now don't all Jump on me at once!!

not recently but i was in good from about it all from 89 to 92 or so. if we where going better all would be forgiven. I think Mc manus could make a kilkenny team once Cody clashed him a couple or times and told him to pass the ball. not all his fault as hes trying to put out fires all over the pitch. as for Watson no chance hes blew very hot about four times and the last ten years the rest has been average. there not all prima donnas either, that's not fair i like the way young Graffan goes about his business
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on November 15, 2012, 11:28:15 PM
i would seriously doubt it, "club first, county second" is how most county players that i have known in the last 20 years or so say, and thats from city and glens players in both codes. we have to ask ourselves why? poor leadership at county board and divisional level, poor structures, etc; then we have to move onto the players themselves...many(not all) are more interested in the "social benefits" of being a county squad member. drinking bans apply only to the morning of the match. do we really have to go on about it? a lot of club sides are a lot more professionally set up than our county sides at all levels.
PRIDE plays a big part in it too, are our players proud to play for their county? to me most could take it or leave it. most players i have spoken too from other counties bust their arse to get onto a panel and it is a source of pride to be seen in a dublin, tyrone, waterford, meath squad for example. do our players have that? many do, most dont.

leadership, pride, commitment are the minimum requirements to be successful, and that is before a ball is kicked or a sliothar pucked. as a county, we fall short on all scores. how do we fix it?? strong leadership would be a starting point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Good post

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 16, 2012, 12:17:06 AM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=180992

typical
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 01:11:14 AM
whats typical about it.   his heads not in it, so hes not going to be available.  same as cormac.  whats the problem?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 16, 2012, 08:22:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 01:11:14 AM
whats typical about it.   his heads not in it, so hes not going to be available.  same as cormac.  whats the problem?

It's better that he comes out and says he's not committing, rather than go at it half hearted and fúck around making a balls of the whole thing and that goes for all players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 16, 2012, 08:24:27 AM
Has his head ever really ever been in it as far as Antrim is concerned? You can crow back to the Cork game but thats the same game he got the line in. We were still in the game at that stage and really needed people to stand up and be counted. He did the opposite. There are those with red tinted glasses will tell you the Cork game was his best for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 01:11:14 AM
whats typical about it.   his heads not in it, so hes not going to be available.  same as cormac.  whats the problem?

There's nothing wrong with Cormacs head according to his interview last week. It's his body that is the problem and there's a fair difference there SG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 16, 2012, 09:07:14 AM
When we have only 12 players turning up for county training there is a serious problem. It maybe is a hangover from the last few years of disappointment but as has been said, leadership seems to be lacking within the county setup / board. While i understand what KR was saying in his Irish snooze interview, regarding taking on players who really want to play for the county and are committed , the shear number of fellas who haven't committed would indicate that there is something fundamentally wrong within our county. If JM or FQ would show some initiative here and jump in the car and go and see those guys who haven't turned and asked for a honest reason why, we could maybe start to fix these problems. Airing our dirty linen in the media is not going to help this situation at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2012, 09:17:34 AM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on November 16, 2012, 09:07:14 AM
When we have only 12 players turning up for county training there is a serious problem. It maybe is a hangover from the last few years of disappointment but as has been said, leadership seems to be lacking within the county setup / board. While i understand what KR was saying in his Irish snooze interview, regarding taking on players who really want to play for the county and are committed , the shear number of fellas who haven't committed would indicate that there is something fundamentally wrong within our county. If JM or FQ would show some initiative here and jump in the car and go and see those guys who haven't turned and asked for a honest reason why, we could maybe start to fix these problems. Airing our dirty linen in the media is not going to help this situation at all.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on November 16, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
a bit of honesty would go a long way. "heads not in it"is a kop out. "cant give the required commitment due to worm family etc", fine by me. "dont think i'll get a game" fine by me. honesty and trust are 2 cornerstones in building a successful team. between the county board and teams; there is very little of either going both ways.
Title: Cuiteogaí
Post by: drici on November 16, 2012, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: thegladiator on November 16, 2012, 09:46:28 AM

a bit of honesty would go a long way. "heads not in it"is a kop out. "cant give the required commitment due to worm family etc", fine by me. "dont think i'll get a game" fine by me. honesty and trust are 2 cornerstones in building a successful team. between the county board and teams; there is very little of either going both ways.


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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
It didn't take long for the usual suspects to jump on the anti winker bandwagon.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on November 16, 2012, 12:07:07 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 16, 2012, 08:24:27 AM
Has his head ever really ever been in it as far as Antrim is concerned? You can crow back to the Cork game but thats the same game he got the line in. We were still in the game at that stage and really needed people to stand up and be counted. He did the opposite. There are those with red tinted glasses will tell you the Cork game was his best for Antrim.

In fairness you saw both sides of Watson that day. He showed he could play with the big boys but at the same time when he was not getting his own way he got the line. I have saw that too often with players in my own club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
He also said that he couldn't 100% commit to both and at the minute an all Ireland semi was a good place to be.   I'd say if Liam pissed in the wrong direction some of use f**king clowns would have a problem with it.  He wished Ryan and the hurlers all the best. And let's move on,   He's not that good to be honest anyway!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 16, 2012, 12:43:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
It didn't take long for the usual suspects to jump on the anti winker bandwagon.  ::)

It didn't take long for the usual LG suspects to jump to his defense, no anti winker sentiment here but ill call it as i see it.

I posted the news with one word(sleeping giant)
typical: 1. Exhibiting the qualities, traits, or characteristics that identify a kind, class, group, or category:
Conforming to a type
give me another word that corelates better with this story given the subjects history with the county. Lets not compare it with hippy or shorty as they have given full commitment every year to now. this guy takes a sabbatical at least once a year since he started. at least this time hes telling the manager from the start so fair play to him for that. If your looking for a player that commands respect from LG look no further than Johnny  Campbell, was always at training and gave his best when wearing the saffron jersey with no fuss. He might not be as good a hurler but has been a far better asset to the county over the last ten years or so. That's enough from me on this subject as I'm sure winker would delighted if he new someone was talking about him. TYPICAL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Would you not defend a club mate if he was getting ripped apart at every chance?     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2012, 01:30:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Would you not defend a club mate if he was getting ripped apart at every chance?   

Do you really love every one of your club mates that much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
Paranoia again with the shamrocks. Would you disagree with any of the comments made about liam. You can hardly deny that he didn't give 100 percent committment to the county surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2012, 02:03:07 PM
You can say what you like about the Shamrocks,at least they put Antrim's  name on the the map. Pity the county powers that be didn't follow their example and set up a management system something similar, selected from the different local clubs,instead of paying expenses to so called Southern whiz kid managers. We need to bring the clubs together and a local management panel could help.....maybe. I know it's been tried before,but with different personnel on board,I can see the advantages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2012, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
It didn't take long for the usual suspects to jump on the anti winker bandwagon.  ::)

If I am a usual suspect then I take no care or worry about whatever Watson has decided. I will however stand up for a fella like Cormac Donnelly who I have a lot of respect for and if comments were in my opinion incorrectly attributed to him I will defend that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Never answered my questions BW.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2012, 02:33:17 PM
manand ball.............leading Watson basher. I think it's you that suffers from "Watson paranoia". You never seem to talk about anything else.Get a life!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 02:56:19 PM
Buswhacker do you ever answer questions when you're asked ?I think you're mistaking who you're talking to as well.

Serious case of paranoia going on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 03:09:56 PM
Answer this.  If NMM or AG for example came out and said they were not going to play county this year would there be as big a stink??   And don't come with.  They are there from 17. Bla bla bla.   Would there be??   NO.    He said he would like to have been there but can't give both 100%.    Move on lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 03:15:33 PM
Where's the big stink??

The big stink is why you boys are making a big stink over it!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 03:17:37 PM
Buswhacker are you for real? Think its best to check your facts before going off on one. I patiently await your apology and an answer to my question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 03:24:53 PM
I wasn't trying to make no big stink at all,   Just IMO JJ and a few of his mates are sitting waiting to get digs in at Watson or loughgiel.   But whatever makes him sleep at night.    We got gave two championships from c dall and won an easy all Ireland.   Just another day in the hood 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
Ohhhhhhh.     And watsons not really that good!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
I don't think anybody ever said that and I think everyone would agree that talent wise liam is up there with the best of them. I think, and I could have got this wrong, what people were questioning is whether he has produced the standard in an antrim jersey that would warrant people saying he would be up to the standard of the county players in kilkenny etc. Do you or bus whacker think he has? Has he given 100 percent committment to antrim?. Not a bashing, just simple questions that were asked of all the players a few posts back. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
There's no doubting he hasn't turned in a game like the semi or the final for Antrim.  He hurled in both as good as I've seen him.     But who plays at there very best week in week out?    Just don't like that people get at him and half them doesn't no him!!   Again.   Sure it's all about opinions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 16, 2012, 04:45:19 PM
So if you don't subscribe to the notion that Watson (why do people call him Winker? that isn't his name) is the greatest hurler that has ever laced a pair of boots your anti - Watson? I'll say it again Watson is the most talented Antrim and Ulster hurler of his generation and on his day he can be unplayable but he has never had a spectacular game for Antrim and I include the Cork game in this. As sublime as his 6 points were his first and last contributions to the match turned what was potentially a win into a defeat and we've all heard about the first yellow card stories. His commitment to Antrim has never been 100% in fact his commitment to Loughgiel has only improved the last 3 years or so. I'd rather Mc Manus, Graffin, Eddie Mc Cluskey, Shorty, Hippy or Neil Mc Auley in my team, at least your know what your gonna get from them. For the benefit of those who think I'm anti Watson he is the most talented hurler Antrim have had for 20 years - Happy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2012, 04:58:47 PM
manballandall...... We all know that Watson hasn't been the complete team player, you don't have to keep pushing the point. But he's not alone in that respect.As for the dreaded word paranoia,every poster on this panel shows signs of it,especially when you read some of the drivel posted here You want an apology,well sorry if I hurt your feelings you tender hearted poster you. In you're ignorance and the arrogant way you dismissed me as some sort of clown,I should be getting the apology,not that want one from you.
You ignored my suggestions re management set up just to get back at me in you're usual snide way,shooting from cover.Get a life!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 05:12:19 PM
BW I think you have me confused with someone else. Have a look at my posts and inform me where you have read any of the accusations you fire my way. I never once mentioned you as a clown, you threw your toys out of the pram because I asked you a question, the first I have asked you by the way. Then went on a rant about posts that I haven't made. Are you a clown?. I'll let the readers decide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 16, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Hippy is actually the guys nickname, Shorty is actually the guys nickname.............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2012, 06:01:10 PM
The hypocrisy on this board is unreal. Where was the outcry when a certain player left the Antrim set-up to go and watch the euros? Or two more swanned off on holiday mid season? Or went drinking the night before important Antrim matches? Or sent down to Cork on a weekend jolly with money in their pockets by the county? No mention of that on here I notice.

Here's a wee snippet for you all to get your dentures around. Kevin Ryan wants the Loughgiel players to train and play with Antrim during their training for the all Ireland campaign. Needless to say it has went down like a lead balloon. The lg players said they'd return after the all Ireland, semi or final. He said that wasn't good enough and that no loughgiel players will be called up to the panel unless for injuries.

So, he's off to a real flyer. He can't even get his selectors in place. The Antrim board are playing a blinder again.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2012, 06:03:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 16, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Hippy is actually the guys nickname, Shorty is actually the guys nickname.............
;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winker_Watson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 06:27:31 PM
Sure that's good enough.   Won't be fit to blame our lads this year!!    Maybe the dunloy lads have better look out,  they are on the verge of becoming successful again,   Them other ejits might not pass the ball to them :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2012, 06:42:48 PM
Perhaps the banter on this forum regarding Watson & others & the county set-up mimics real life goin on amongst the panel.

Good on a site like this - not so much on a senior county team.

For my tuppence;
I think in time Watson will regret not giving more to Antrim. He will live for long on his club career in the pound but it will quickly be forgotten outside. He might regret on a personal level not extending himself to reach his ability at county level.
If Kevin Ryan demanded the loughiel boys before their season was finished, and excluded them - its sheer madness.
But hey - this is antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 16, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
I have no issue with watson not declaring himself to antrim and have never said otherwise. Him or any gaa player owes nothing to the gaa. Its an amateur sport. And for what its worth if that is true then ryan has just shot himself in the foot. An absolute joke to ask that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2012, 07:33:12 PM
Agree fully.
My point was more that Watson may in the long run regret it himself but yes no player can be compelled or slighted for not committing to county - amateur so choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
Sleeping Giant are you going to retract your incorrect statement about Cormac Donnelly or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 10:58:29 PM
Or not!!    Last I was speaking to cormac.   He was very clear in his reasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on November 16, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 10:58:29 PM
Or not!!    Last I was speaking to cormac.   He was very clear in his reasons.

Just wouldn't be sure if that...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2012, 11:23:25 PM
Winker is a name that goes along Watson. Like Dusty Millar or Chalky White. No great mystery,I've heard of other men called Watson being called Winker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 16, 2012, 11:23:25 PM
Winker is a name that goes along Watson. Like Dusty Millar or Chalky White. No great mystery,I've heard of other men called Watson being called Winker.
Stephen Watson (BBC) has Winker Watson as his twitter handle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 11:53:50 PM
Quote from: the colonel on November 16, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2012, 10:58:29 PM
Or not!!    Last I was speaking to cormac.   He was very clear in his reasons.

Just wouldn't be sure if that...
well I am!!   So anyways.  Can we not get along? ;D.     How do we see Antrim and the new gaffer doing.  Without any loughgiel men at all.   Still think that we have good draw in Leinster and have chance of a semi final.     How would that put us.     Back door wise. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2012, 04:58:12 AM
I wonder how many Ballyhale lads will be lining up for the county before February.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2012, 10:07:51 AM
None.
But sure what would Kilkenny know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2012, 04:58:12 AM
I wonder how many Ballyhale lads will be lining up for the county before February.

I'd say Kilkenny would dcik most teams in Feb without their Ballyhale lads, what would you think SIE?

Anyway, seems they still have to win a competition first before they get to Feb, counting chickens and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2012, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2012, 04:58:12 AM
I wonder how many Ballyhale lads will be lining up for the county before February.

I'd say Kilkenny would dcik most teams in Feb without their Ballyhale lads, what would you think SIE?

Anyway, seems they still have to win a competition first before they get to Feb, counting chickens and all that
the point is if they're still in the running would any of their players be expected to turn up for Kilkenny? The answer is no. Irrespective of who KK plays. I think Ryan is asking too much.

There's still no word of the back room team. It's a bit of a fck up if you ask me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2012, 02:48:24 PM
You have to wonder (if true) at such a foolish ultimatum.

Was it pure niave foolishness or did he get advice to try this arm twist in an attempt to raise the issue of national league overlapping with the AICC and its impact on hurling counties like Antrim every year.

Wouldn't surprise me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2012, 02:51:53 PM
Skull, I can assure you it's true. I'm not in the habit of posting lies and hearsay, as my posting history should prove.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on November 17, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
surely Ryan hasn't asked for LG players ta train with antrim they ed be dead rite not ta go as for Watson and others they dint owe antrim or anyone anything if as many people that slabber put the hours and training to get the abuse them boys get sure yas would be better off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 17, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 17, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
+1

Agreed, players while still in club championship should be brought back after their involvement in that competition is finished. I said that they could have at least went to the meeting, they could have sorted these things out then, seems strange his hard line on this after (as SIE stated in previous post) he had met with Loughgiel players


Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
For what its worth lads, the Loughgiel players were excused from attending the meeting and training by K. Ryan himself. He met the Loughgiel lads in Loughgiel on another date.

But why let the facts get in the way of a newspaper article or rumour mongering, eh?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 18, 2012, 10:05:06 AM
Should the I in the nickname not actually be an A?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 17, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
+1

Agreed, players while still in club championship should be brought back after their involvement in that competition is finished. I said that they could have at least went to the meeting, they could have sorted these things out then, seems strange his hard line on this after (as SIE stated in previous post) he had met with Loughgiel players


Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2012, 08:44:20 PM
For what its worth lads, the Loughgiel players were excused from attending the meeting and training by K. Ryan himself. He met the Loughgiel lads in Loughgiel on another date.

But why let the facts get in the way of a newspaper article or rumour mongering, eh?  ::)
They were excused fom attending the first meeting. These developments occurred through last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 18, 2012, 10:05:06 AM
Should the I in the nickname not actually be an A?
nope, thats just how yous talk over there.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
3-10 to 1-7 st thomas lead with 15 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 03:16:33 PM
loughrea comeback ????   3 mins left 3-11 to 2-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
loughrea left it a little late ..... St Thomas first ever Galway senior title, only formed in 1968

could now go crazy

Reckon if they make it to croker on the 17th they will give it a hell of a rattle on a good pitch

though reckon the Shams might catch them, the fact they are the all ireland champions means they won't be taken as lightly as teams in the past
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
the dinny cahill factor could have a little to play do you think SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
I don't think any team in an all Ireland semi final is taken lightly at club level. The gap that exists at county has never really been there at club so the souther sides give the semi their all - they know its a long way back themselves.

Saff89 is Dinny Cahill involved with st Thomas?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 07:58:20 PM
yeah, fact they are champions just flags them a llittle more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 18, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
the dinny cahill factor could have a little to play do you think SIE
not really. They'll have seen us play last year and will know what to expect. One thing I do hope is that the ref is of a much higher standard than the ref today. The two number 14s should have got the line. The amount of slapping and stamping off the ball was incredible. Hardy stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
Sounds like that's just part and parcel of the Galway championship SiE - I would imagine February will be much more tightly controlled.
Your boys take much time off after ulster?
What way does the training plan work with fitness / stickwork over nov-jan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on November 19, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2012, 10:42:36 PM


The one at FF is a real handfull, big fcuker and think he hits the frees. As for their FB line I seen them hack the shit out of Portumna the year the beat them, how a referee let that go on was beyond me

you called that right MR2.
next time i go to complain about a ref I'll try to remember this match. Fcukin awful ref. St Thomas FF could have got red in the fit=rst half and there was a load of dirty slappin but that Loughrea FF !!!!!!!! even when he scored from a penalty he ran in and gave the goalkeeper a dig in the back. He was usin his hurley like a cutlass after gettin a free and the ref ignored it and then after the free he kicked a St Thomas player bang in front of he ref and got away with everythin. atrocious!! 
What do the Loughgeil boys think about their chances against St Thomas? better them than Loughrea?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 19, 2012, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on November 19, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2012, 10:42:36 PM


The one at FF is a real handfull, big fcuker and think he hits the frees. As for their FB line I seen them hack the shit out of Portumna the year the beat them, how a referee let that go on was beyond me

you called that right MR2.
next time i go to complain about a ref I'll try to remember this match. Fcukin awful ref. St Thomas FF could have got red in the fit=rst half and there was a load of dirty slappin but that Loughrea FF !!!!!!!! even when he scored from a penalty he ran in and gave the goalkeeper a dig in the back. He was usin his hurley like a cutlass after gettin a free and the ref ignored it and then after the free he kicked a St Thomas player bang in front of he ref and got away with everythin. atrocious!! 
What do the Loughgeil boys think about their chances against St Thomas? better them than Loughrea?

I think Loughgiel would have seen enough to worry them.

Richie Murray is still some hurler and always had that wildness about him. The St Thomas lads are all good hurlers, pretty quick and use the ball well, much like the way Loughgiel played in the final in particular last year and they'll have to reach those heights again to make the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2012, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 19, 2012, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on November 19, 2012, 09:04:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2012, 10:42:36 PM


The one at FF is a real handfull, big fcuker and think he hits the frees. As for their FB line I seen them hack the shit out of Portumna the year the beat them, how a referee let that go on was beyond me

you called that right MR2.
next time i go to complain about a ref I'll try to remember this match. Fcukin awful ref. St Thomas FF could have got red in the fit=rst half and there was a load of dirty slappin but that Loughrea FF !!!!!!!! even when he scored from a penalty he ran in and gave the goalkeeper a dig in the back. He was usin his hurley like a cutlass after gettin a free and the ref ignored it and then after the free he kicked a St Thomas player bang in front of he ref and got away with everythin. atrocious!! 
What do the Loughgeil boys think about their chances against St Thomas? better them than Loughrea?

I think Loughgiel would have seen enough to worry them.

Richie Murray is still some hurler and always had that wildness about him. The St Thomas lads are all good hurlers, pretty quick and use the ball well, much like the way Loughgiel played in the final in particular last year and they'll have to reach those heights again to make the final.

I'd have prefered Loughgiel to play Loughrea, I though Loughrea on that shitty day would have beat St Thomas's. As said already they play they same style as Loughgiel and it should be a cracking game, no doubt it will be in Parnell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 19, 2012, 10:50:38 AM
I remember Dunloy playing in Clones a few times - but yes it does seem that Parnell is getting the shout every year not for the Ulster teams. Motorways to Dublin and all that.
The other semi normally Thurles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 19, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Don't think Mullingar would please the shamrocks in terms of travel distance Altho dunloy did have to travel there to play sarsfields of Galway.
I think Parnell is a safe bet.
Game a long way off unfortunately!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?

Two ways of doing it, you toss for it, but teams need to agree or the they make you use the county clours, its a fair expense to change kit. £500
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 19, 2012, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?

Two ways of doing it, you toss for it, but teams need to agree or the they make you use the county clours, its a fair expense to change kit. £500

Provincial colours, as we'd to wear an Ulster style jersey when playing Newtownshandrum who were in Munster blue.

Croke park wouldn't allow us to wear our away colours even though both teams had agreed to amongst themselves.

You can double that £500 for a new kit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
we wore yellow against newtownshandrum and they wore red, couty colours of course as both clubs wore green and yellow.
lgiel will prob do the same against them.
johnnys right, £500 wouldnt cover that. £1000 min
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
I knew someone wore ulster colours recently.   The dall wore them years back also.     Find out soon enough.     What's the thoughts. Early to start this chat :o.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?

Maybe KR could go along to the game, by the sounds of it its the only way he is going to see a LG man in Saffron this year!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.y

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?

Maybe KR could go along to the game, by the sounds of it its the only way he is going to see a LG man in Saffron this year!  ;)
haha.  So it the story goes.    Well maybe start are own team ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
How about Mullingar?

Going to be a tough assignment, was a cracking Galway final really typical of their type of club hurling.y

Puts the LG supporting DUP man in a bit of a quandary now that they will be playing a team in Red White and Blue.
id think it will maybe be county colours.  No?

Maybe KR could go along to the game, by the sounds of it its the only way he is going to see a LG man in Saffron this year!  ;)
haha.  So it the story goes.    Well maybe start are own team ;D

Sure this time last year your reserves were touted as being good enough so i dont think it will be any bother to ye SG.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 19, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Loughgiel played in saffron before the red and white.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on November 19, 2012, 05:52:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ohkfTX6dr0Y


Nobody running around after the referee looking the red card anyway.  Would have been a melee up here. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 19, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Loughgiel played in saffron before the red and white.
Back at it tonight?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 19, 2012, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 19, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 19, 2012, 05:32:38 PM
Loughgiel played in saffron before the red and white.
Back at it tonight?
;)
Title: Ulster GAA Writers Jubilee Hurling Team 1988-2012
Post by: UGAAWA on November 21, 2012, 09:02:09 PM
To mark its 25th year, the Quinn Direct Ulster GAA Writers' Association has selected Ulster Jubilee football and hurling teams from all its award winners over the past 25 years. Some 150 footballers and close to 40 hurlers have collected the coveted Belleek vase since 1988, so the choosing of the final line-ups caused some lively debate amongst the writers.

The jubilee team will join the Ulster GAA Writers and guests at the Jubilee Banquet at the Great Northern Hotel, Bundoran on December 7. A number of tickets are still available for the night.

Click here for the hurling team nominees:

http://www.ulstergaawriters.com/Jubilee%20hurling%20team%20nominees.pdf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 22, 2012, 06:33:27 AM
Was Beaver Mc Carry not eligible for this hurling selection? Would have thought he most certainly was.
Was Kieran Mc Keever not a Derry player who played for Dungiven ? I thought he was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2012, 08:51:16 AM
I presume you've had to have already won a monthly award to be considered Buswhacker.

If big Magic or Johnny McGrattan win one, I'll be expecting a big thank you from them.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2012, 09:38:04 AM
Forgive my Belfast bias - but no Jim Connolly?
I am sure he has won and Ulster GAAWA.

Mind you - I think these schemes really are a lot of nonsense!
An excuse for a junket which ends up leaving alot of bad taste - and all over the opinions of a questionable chosen few!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 22, 2012, 09:45:27 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 22, 2012, 09:38:04 AM
Forgive my Belfast bias - but no Jim Connolly?
I am sure he has won and Ulster GAAWA.

Mind you - I think these schemes really are a lot of nonsense!
An excuse for a junket which ends up leaving alot of bad taste - and all over the opinions of a questionable chosen few!
You got that right fella.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 10:10:44 AM
Noticed I'm not on that list also ffs!!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 22, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
Sorry Johnnycool, Big Niall put me right this morning. I jumped the gun as usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2012, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 22, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
Sorry Johnnycool, Big Niall put me right this morning. I jumped the gun as usual.

is that big niall Patterson with the `hamstrings hanging out of him` you speak of?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 22, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Heard that the U-14 development squads are doing strength and conditioning/weights, at that age? What sort of muppets are in charge of these squads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 22, 2012, 10:27:54 PM
Its been going on at some clubs for a while now saff. I think its a bit young to be at it myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2012, 10:44:39 PM
Strength & conditioning is such a broad term but if it involves lifting weights to bulk up at U14 then that's absolutely scandalous. Young lads can do gym work and body weight exercises no doubt but the overwhelming focus at this age should be on building the skills of the game and the characters of the youngsters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 22, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 22, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Heard that the U-14 development squads are doing strength and conditioning/weights, at that age? What sort of muppets are in charge of these squads?

Given the fact you've heard your information from a second or third hand source, who is the muppet here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 22, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
Not being knowledgeable about the specifics of the work being done or indeed what type of physical development work is advisable by experts in this field I think I should not have an opinion on what is being done.

There's a fair chance I'd say that expertise has been sought so why try and be a shit stirring know it all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2012, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 22, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
Not being knowledgeable about the specifics of the work being done or indeed what type of physical development work is advisable by experts in this field I think I should not have an opinion on what is being done.

There's a fair chance I'd say that expertise has been sought so why try and be a shit stirring know it all?

Kids can do weights and as long as it is done within reason and under good guidance, it will do them no harm whatsoever! I wish had have done a lot more gym work while I was young. Conditioning yourself at that age will only put you in a position to push on at minor and senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 23, 2012, 04:50:04 AM
Johnnycool.....the very same Big Niall,,,ex-goalkeeper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on November 23, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 22, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Heard that the U-14 development squads are doing strength and conditioning/weights, at that age? What sort of muppets are in charge of these squads?

The S&C element is only starting this week with this group and is a vital part of player development. You only have to look at the the Antrim U21 game v Clare to see the difference in physicality between a county who have only played lip service to development squads s&c and one who has been at the forefront of this for 6/7 years. 
The key at this age group is to develop good technique over quantity. The aim is to introduce functional strength training, show the benefits, give proper instruction and concentrate on form.
Every club side has now jumped on the s&c band wagon but all too often technique is sacraficed to grunting and pace, were with proper instruction more could be achieved in less than half the time.
I have been impressed with the U14 development squad coaches so far this year, much more so than some of the other age groups. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 23, 2012, 10:28:59 AM
If the grip and swing aren't right by the age of 10 then no gods amount of gym work is going to speed up their hurling.

Note, I mentioned the speeding up of their hurling, not just how fast they can run as I've seen it all too often lads with natural speed having to almost stop dead to control a ball, rise it and even hit it.

Shefflin is a good case of this as there's loads of hurlers out there faster over the ground than him, but he does all his skills at full throttle and doesn't need to slow down to execute them properly.

If you've got all that sorted, then yes do a bit of gym work to improve core and what not as striking on the run needs a strong core to develop the power in the shot.

I read this article a few years ago in working 'smart' in the gym which seems to have been lost a bit in every hurler under the sun being told to bulk up.

http://www.totalgaacoach.com/news/419.html (http://www.totalgaacoach.com/news/419.html)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 23, 2012, 10:44:10 AM
Good post JohnnyCool - the boss is out so I'm still at home that filled my morning!

Regarding the U14s I dont think we can comment decisively since we dont know the full details of the actual programme.
However I would be hoping it was more based on body-weight and technique than try to lift heavy weights to bulk up while these young lads are in a crucial stage of natural growth - that can harm flexibility long into the future.

Nobody doubts however that we are well behing in terms of physique at the senior grades son great if we're trying to do something about that.
However as JohnnyCools post suggests - this should never be at the expense of the skills and techniques of hurling! These are of paramount importance. Consider the bog ball - Armagh brought this whole idea of men mountains dominating games physically. Sure it worked for a time - but now we see the drive towards leaner players with strength in the right way for the sport.

I guess what I am saying is that although the southern lads are bigger and stronger - lets not forget that this is not their only attribute! They are faster and more skilfull also! We cannot neglect that.
I think "wholistic" is the buzz word!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 23, 2012, 10:56:01 AM
The U14 panel have had trials recently over a few weeks to pick a squad. They are starting the S&C work supervised by people who know what they are doing in addition to the Hurling..ie... training sessions & trips down south. The Hurling will always be the priority
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 23, 2012, 01:28:09 PM
S&C and 'bulking up' aren't the same thing!

S&C WILL speed up hurling, a well constructed program will enhance strength, power, flexibility, balance and develop a strong core! Gains and improvements are easy to see and can improve confidence no end.  Of course hurling skills are hugely important, but so too are the physical attributes and its not a one or the other approach, for every tommy walsh you'll have a walter walsh. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on November 23, 2012, 01:42:06 PM
This is one topic that really does get my back up when fellow gaels become fixated by anti S&C. Now i'm not saying that everyone's in the same boat, but  I want to state the facts about this.  Many professional sports use specific conditioning techniques to develop young bodies to be ready for professional sport. Everyone in professional sports will tell you the time to have this prep done is between 13-18. So developing our teams at these age levels is a real advancement on our outlook for the future for these players after 18 years of age. My one concern would be that the trainers in charge of these developments squads are focusing on GAA specific conditioning techniques, which I'm sure they are if they are taking this program on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 23, 2012, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on November 23, 2012, 01:42:06 PM
This is one topic that really does get my back up when fellow gaels become fixated by anti S&C. Now i'm not saying that everyone's in the same boat, but  I want to state the facts about this.  Many professional sports use specific conditioning techniques to develop young bodies to be ready for professional sport. Everyone in professional sports will tell you the time to have this prep done is between 13-18. So developing our teams at these age levels is a real advancement on our outlook for the future for these players after 18 years of age. My one concern would be that the trainers in charge of these developments squads are focusing on GAA specific conditioning techniques, which I'm sure they are if they are taking this program on.

A professional footballer and a professional rugby player both do strength and conditioning programs throughout their careers. Look at the physique of an average premiership footballer to the average international rugby player and you'll see two very different athletes.

We need to be sure that the programs we put the youngsters through are going to help them and this may even boil down to the individual as you say for every Tommy Walsh there's a Walter Walsh.

Get Tommy to bulk up may take away from his elusiveness which makes him the player he is, Walter naturally is physically big and will use his size to get him the space he needs to get to the ball, he's not going to dance round anyone he can walk over the top of, he'll be given a different program than Tommy.

I'm always worried about this one size fits all solution when it comes to coaching in general, because Kilkenny or Donegal are doing it doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for everyone else but try something different as for sure what we're currently doing or not doing isn't working.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 23, 2012, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 22, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
Not being knowledgeable about the specifics of the work being done or indeed what type of physical development work is advisable by experts in this field I think I should not have an opinion on what is being done.

There's a fair chance I'd say that expertise has been sought so why try and be a shit stirring know it all?

Simples Skull its much easier to stir shit on here rather than wait to find out the details!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 23, 2012, 02:11:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 23, 2012, 10:28:59 AM
If the grip and swing aren't right by the age of 10 then no gods amount of gym work is going to speed up their hurling.

Note, I mentioned the speeding up of their hurling, not just how fast they can run as I've seen it all too often lads with natural speed having to almost stop dead to control a ball, rise it and even hit it.

Shefflin is a good case of this as there's loads of hurlers out there faster over the ground than him, but he does all his skills at full throttle and doesn't need to slow down to execute them properly.

If you've got all that sorted, then yes do a bit of gym work to improve core and what not as striking on the run needs a strong core to develop the power in the shot.

I read this article a few years ago in working 'smart' in the gym which seems to have been lost a bit in every hurler under the sun being told to bulk up.

http://www.totalgaacoach.com/news/419.html (http://www.totalgaacoach.com/news/419.html)

Ive heard a couple of people say that even up to u12 all you should be interested in as a coach is getting the kids to master the grip.

Thats an excellent article about Timmy Hammersley's routine. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 12:50:04 AM
I remember being given a clip around the lug and told to run out and enjoy it when I was 14. Changed times indeed.

I don't necessarily agree with the skills having to be learned at 10. I know this seems somewhat in club, but Watson was 12 before he went near a hurling field. Talent, I would like to think, is still the major factor at 14. I still think its to young to be even interested in s + c. 16s and up is time enough.

Drilling training into fellas of that age will take the enjoyment out of it eventually. I know it'll help them build up strength etc, but enjoyment of playing the game is what its all about. End of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 24, 2012, 07:51:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 12:50:04 AM
I remember being given a clip around the lug and told to run out and enjoy it when I was 14. Changed times indeed.

I don't necessarily agree with the skills having to be learned at 10. I know this seems somewhat in club, but Watson was 12 before he went near a hurling field. Talent, I would like to think, is still the major factor at 14. I still think its to young to be even interested in s + c. 16s and up is time enough.

Drilling training into fellas of that age will take the enjoyment out of it eventually. I know it'll help them build up strength etc, but enjoyment of playing the game is what its all about. End of.

SIE who said anything about the skills being learnt by 10? JC mentioned the grip and the swing by age 10 and i said the grip by 12. They are the basics not all the skills. Agree with you about the enjoyment though, the kids have to enjoy it to keep them coming back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.

Highlighted the bit in bold, thought you were talking about all clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 24, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
A lot of subjective opinions being given if you ask me.
That's the nature of opinions skull.

A little bit of objectivity is needed when dishing out opinions
indeed, and also a realisation that we're all a part of an amateur organisation.

I think Loughgiel take a professional look at how they are doing things though, so amateur organisation is a bit stretched sometimes :o
who mentioned Loughgiel? My own opinion mr2.

Highlighted the bit in bold, thought you were talking about all clubs
Erm, yeah. Clubs, counties, members... amateurs.

Maybe Naomh Gall are different?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 25, 2012, 12:36:31 AM
Naomh gall hurling managers don't get paid/expenses. Do other club managers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 26, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
I think judging by the time of that post you might have had a few shandies HS!
Has Rossa House closing forced you to drink down Milltown Row in St Galls?

Getting close to AGM time and County Convention - anyone aware of any movement in clubs?
Anyone know of the hurling league changes to be brought forward to county convention?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 26, 2012, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 26, 2012, 09:28:51 AM
I think judging by the time of that post you might have had a few shandies HS!
Has Rossa House closing forced you to drink down Milltown Row in St Galls?

Getting close to AGM time and County Convention - anyone aware of any movement in clubs?
Anyone know of the hurling league changes to be brought forward to county convention?
I am led to believe that anything that tampers with the existing D1 and maybe slightly lesser extent D2 is a dead duck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 27, 2012, 08:56:43 AM
i dont think theres much support amongst the clubs to expand Div1 to more teams.

personally i thought it worked well this year with all the games played on a regular basis. other than that silly rearranging fixtures for the first game of the season to be some sort of curtain raiser against loughgiel and ourselves the league ran nice and smoothly with more or less all games played.

maybe it could be started earlier in the year as opposed to easter sunday? but that would depend on each year how far the antrim reps go in the club series i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 27, 2012, 08:19:39 PM
What I was told yesterday...

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams home and away.

Round 1 of the Senior, Intermediate and Junior championships to be played on a home and away bases.  :-\

Junior 'B' championship for Div 4 teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2012, 09:48:07 PM
Someone taking the hand of you with that championship home and away idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
Only a pure bean counter would ever think of that one.......oh crumbs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2012, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 27, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2012, 09:48:07 PM
Someone taking the hand of you with that championship home and away idea.
I hope so. That system is cat.
i agree. totally mental!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 29, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 27, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2012, 09:48:07 PM
Someone taking the hand of you with that championship home and away idea.
I hope so. That system is cat.

how would that even work? Aggregate scores or something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 29, 2012, 10:20:34 AM
In Donegal they play the first round of their football championship on a home and away basis. If both teams win one game each it goes to a 3rd game, winner takes all. Might not be a bad idea - guarantees another game or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
Does anyone know when Convention actually is?
Or even the meeting when next year's structures will be decided?

All the rumours have got to stop some time when we find out the reality!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
Anyone see the ulster writers associations nominees.   Any thoughts?   Really trying hard not to name two names that made it ,over a possible 5/6 other
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
Anyone see the ulster writers associations nominees.   Any thoughts?   Really trying hard not to name two names that made it ,over a possible 5/6 other

Thought we had covered this, only those nominated for a monthly award can be on the list. Plus we know the standard of writing and the knowledge of the writers on Hurling matters in Ulster. Could write most of it on the back of a stamp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
Must of been asleep.  Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
Did Monty Mc Cambridge never get nominated for this monthly award .   Unreal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
Did Monty Mc Cambridge never get nominated for this monthly award .   Unreal.

Same as all those awards, when you get a name for early rising........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 29, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
Does anyone know when Convention actually is?
Or even the meeting when next year's structures will be decided?

All the rumours have got to stop some time when we find out the reality!

Wednesday 5th December
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on November 29, 2012, 04:14:25 PM
Focus Group Recommendations

Adult Fixtures
   Div 1 Hurling league  to consist of 10 teams played Home and away.
   Round 1 of the Senior, Intermediate and Junior Hurling Championships to be played on a home and away bases.
   Create a Junior "B" Hurling Championship for Div 4 Teams.

Underage Fixtures
   Create All  County leagues from u14 to Minor level
   Unify the playing of All Underage games throughout the County.
   Maximise participation in Leinster Hurling Competitions  and seek entry to  Leinster U21 and Minor Championships.

Coaching
   Appoint a High Performance Director for Hurling
   Create  a County  Coaching Committee that represents and reflects the needs of Hurling within the County
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Does that mean Ballygalget stay up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 05:58:59 PM
Thanks CHB - it appears u are in the know!

MR2 & NAG couldn't agree more on these joke junket award schemes run by people as a veil of equality towards hurling in ulster. Best ignored.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2012, 07:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Does that mean Ballygalget stay up?
Was thinking that as well.
Glenariffe to come up and ballygalget stay up to make the 10?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2012, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 29, 2012, 07:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
Does that mean Ballygalget stay up?
Was thinking that as well.
Glenariffe to come up and ballygalget stay up to make the 10?

Wouldn't be sure there is a fair way to decide who is worthy of staying up, going down, The Down lads won't get a vote in this so they may lose out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I would say if the big clubs go for it then most football dominated clubs will follow suit and it will be passed. Plus this steering committee has probably done its homework to ensure its passed.

Mr2 I am not sure if there is any other way of deciding the 10 teams?
But as I have said before - this system does favour as glens team - had it have been galls sars or a city team I don't think it would have happened at all!
Chip on my shoulder but I think it's warranted!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 29, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I would say if the big clubs go for it then most football dominated clubs will follow suit and it will be passed. Plus this steering committee has probably done its homework to ensure its passed.

Mr2 I am not sure if there is any other way of deciding the 10 teams?
But as I have said before - this system does favour as glens team - had it have been galls sars or a city team I don't think it would have happened at all!
Chip on my shoulder but I think it's warranted!

There are some clubs in North Antrim (Ballycastle) that wield some influence, I can assure you we are not one of them. This was happening regardless of who the top two are I would think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I would say if the big clubs go for it then most football dominated clubs will follow suit and it will be passed. Plus this steering committee has probably done its homework to ensure its passed.

Mr2 I am not sure if there is any other way of deciding the 10 teams?
But as I have said before - this system does favour as glens team - had it have been galls sars or a city team I don't think it would have happened at all!
Chip on my shoulder but I think it's warranted!

There are some clubs in North Antrim (Ballycastle) that wield some influence, I can assure you we are not one of them. This was happening regardless of who the top two are I would think.

Stop opening old wounds, I'm still smarting over that FFS!!

I'll go for the 10 teams option but will relegation/promotion be just one up/down?

There needs to be two up two down, gives people hope to the end of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2012, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I would say if the big clubs go for it then most football dominated clubs will follow suit and it will be passed. Plus this steering committee has probably done its homework to ensure its passed.

Mr2 I am not sure if there is any other way of deciding the 10 teams?
But as I have said before - this system does favour as glens team - had it have been galls sars or a city team I don't think it would have happened at all!
Chip on my shoulder but I think it's warranted!
I don't.

I don't think this change came about just to get Oisins promoted to Div 1. Sure the wheels were in motion before the Div 2 winner had been decided. At that time, most thought Oisins would beat us.

Btdtgtt it would be a strange day were antrim boards favouring the non city teams...

I don't think any city bias exists now by the way but it has before and only in the past ten years has that gone away.

Division 1 should stay as is. Ridiculous. A bit like belfast traffic systems at the minute and people making changes for the sake of it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2012, 11:13:15 PM
The main thing wrong with hurling leagues at present is division 3 / division 4 more than 1.

There are currently no excuses though 8 with 2 down and 2 up could also work.

It just feels like there's a perception that bringing more teams into a league will raise standards which i think is a nonsense. 14 games home and away is also very manageable and 18 a bit much.

In the 8 team leagues teams will eventually get promoted if good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 29, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
Dual clubs especially those in div 1 will not like the extra league games coupled with that proposal for home and away first round games. Would make for a crazy summer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 30, 2012, 08:57:13 AM
Hs - the chip on my shoulder is not solely about this system favouring Glenarrife I mean it's over a course of a number of years. Personally I don't mind the oisins up on this occasion. But I think time and time again system changes and other county decisions have favoured NA clubs.

Minder - I have no doubt oisins did not instigate this I was not getting at ur club. I note the club u mentioned drafted the current system which relegated galls Rossa & lamh dearg in the boardroom rather than the pitch (note 3 city clubs)

Mr2 - I think possibility of 2up 2down is a must as u say it prevents leagues from being decided too early in season and so meaningless games abound. I would however make the 2nd teams play off at a neutral venue.

TommyGunn - u are 100% right the focus on the top tier hopefully will not neglect the difficulties in lower leagues. St endas are a coming hurling club with a bright future and there's many mis-matches in these leagues.

Skull - if we stopped closing off so many weekends at the behest of the county teams then fixtures would not be a problem. Dual clubs should be supported in their efforts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 30, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2012, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 29, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
I would say if the big clubs go for it then most football dominated clubs will follow suit and it will be passed. Plus this steering committee has probably done its homework to ensure its passed.

Mr2 I am not sure if there is any other way of deciding the 10 teams?
But as I have said before - this system does favour as glens team - had it have been galls sars or a city team I don't think it would have happened at all!
Chip on my shoulder but I think it's warranted!
I don't.

I don't think this change came about just to get Oisins promoted to Div 1. Sure the wheels were in motion before the Div 2 winner had been decided. At that time, most thought Oisins would beat us.

Btdtgtt it would be a strange day were antrim boards favouring the non city teams...

I don't think any city bias exists now by the way but it has before and only in the past ten years has that gone away.

Division 1 should stay as is. Ridiculous. A bit like belfast traffic systems at the minute and people making changes for the sake of it!
I don't agree. I think that the football system is much better than the hurling. 10 teams. 2 up 2 down. No excuses.

If it goes to a 10 team league then two up two down has to be a given IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 29, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
Dual clubs especially those in div 1 will not like the extra league games coupled with that proposal for home and away first round games. Would make for a crazy summer

Sure there are hardly any games played during the summer...big gripe with me as the best months of the year for hurling and there is very little played yet we are still playing games in october and november.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 30, 2012, 10:50:35 AM
Quote from: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 29, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
Dual clubs especially those in div 1 will not like the extra league games coupled with that proposal for home and away first round games. Would make for a crazy summer

Sure there are hardly any games played during the summer...big gripe with me as the best months of the year for hurling and there is very little played yet we are still playing games in october and november.

Sure the championship was played off in a matter of 3-4 weeks August and September, what's the panic, still playing in Leinster and Munster up to the last couple of weekends. Play the league games from May to end of August and Championship from then on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 10:54:12 AM
Exactly...at which point the county team will be well finished and players will have a had a good few weeks with club before championship begins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 30, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
Very much so lads.

This system of 3 games in a week then 4 weeks without a game, then 2 games in a week followed by another 4week break etc - it has got to stop!

We need fixtures played consistently and throughout the season including summer months - regardless of the county teams. If boys get injured so be it - someone else can come in. After all - we have already had the debate about the fortunes and potential of our county team anyway. So club games should not be held off and limit hurling for the inevitable season of the few on the county team.

I understand county players are not available to make club training at this time - but they should be released to figure in league games. Keep the club season and momentum going - watch the interest rise - and this will in turn benefit the county.

And in a perfect and possible set-up - the leagues might get finished late august / early september and allow for the final poistions to be used a championship seeding. Thus the league gains importance and there are no meaningless games affecting relegation etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 12:01:14 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 29, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
Dual clubs especially those in div 1 will not like the extra league games coupled with that proposal for home and away first round games. Would make for a crazy summer

Sure there are hardly any games played during the summer...big gripe with me as the best months of the year for hurling and there is very little played yet we are still playing games in october and november.

When there have been years there's been no games played that was due to county fixtures mainly holding things up. Do you think that will change year on year?

Do the maths for a dual player and the number of games he's expected to play in (especially at the business end of the season). Ulster league, all county leagues, feis hurling and football (up here anyway) then championship. All adds up to a very busy season and put a lot of demands on these players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 12:14:18 PM
But that's my point, why do we have a build up of games at business end of season as you call it? If the games are played consistently then there shouldn't be a build up. Already been highlighted the way our leagues run where you get 3 games in a week then nothing for 4 weeks does nobody any good. And its not just down to county demands. Bad communication resulting in bad laid out plans/fixtures. Ulster league is supposed to be pre season comp so shouldn't have any bearing on end of season. Our leagues start in april and yet we can't have them wrapped up by august?.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 30, 2012, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: manballandall on November 30, 2012, 12:14:18 PM
But that's my point, why do we have a build up of games at business end of season as you call it? If the games are played consistently then there shouldn't be a build up. Already been highlighted the way our leagues run where you get 3 games in a week then nothing for 4 weeks does nobody any good. And its not just down to county demands. Bad communication resulting in bad laid out plans/fixtures. Ulster league is supposed to be pre season comp so shouldn't have any bearing on end of season. Our leagues start in april and yet we can't have them wrapped up by august?.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
Take a closer look at a busy dual clubs fixture list and tell me that theres alot of down time. I thinks thats a lie that seems to bandied around but doesnt stack up when you look at the facts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 30, 2012, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
Take a closer look at a busy dual clubs fixture list and tell me that theres alot of down time. I thinks thats a lie that seems to bandied around but doesnt stack up when you look at the facts

But at the same time do you think 14 league games are enough for the ordinary club hurler to develop over the year as is the current set up?

The Ulster league are glorified friendlies and you could end up out of the championship after 60 minutes?

The dual clubs have problems in this regard, no doubt, but I think its unfair that hurling and football only clubs may be held back because of it.

I'm maybe coming from a different perspective than the Antrim scenario as our seniors and reserves in particular play an inordinate amount of hurling in the months of april, may and june in Down leagues and Antrim leagues but SFA in july and August due to Down dual clubs footballing commitments and then low and behold we're playing 'championship' games in November which do nothing to promote hurling as no one gives a shíte at that time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
Take a closer look at a busy dual clubs fixture list and tell me that theres alot of down time. I thinks thats a lie that seems to bandied around but doesnt stack up when you look at the facts

Just to back up what I'm saying. Heres the games a dual player in Dunloy gets through. Not much slacking. Would have been more but out footballers got chinned in the first round of the championship. So thats 48 games in a 34 week season

                        Feb   Mar   Apr   May   Jun   Jul   Aug   Sep   Oct      Totals
Football             1      3      4       5      3      5      1                               22
Hurling              3      2      4       2      4      5      1      3      1               26
Total                 4      5      8       7      7      10    2      3      1               48
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 30, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
Antrim leagues come first skull.

Ulster league & feis for example dont involve all clubs so others can't be held to ransom over these.

Belfast dual clubs still suffer from 3games a week - then 3/4 weeks off. Quit with the shutdown for the sake of the minority of county players and spread fixtures out more. Particularly the summer months when players love to be busy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on November 30, 2012, 07:23:11 PM
i played in dublin for a few years, junior hurling and intermediate football. in 1 season we had 29 hurling games between league, cup and championship. the reason was because of the will of the clubs to play games. surely lads would rather play than train. our board seem to have a mission to kill off the dual player by crazy fixtures. we have played football on saturday at 7pm then a hurling match the next day at 3 pm in carey. its madness. even if we played2 games a week for 26 weeks during march- sept enough time for 52 games, that leaves plenty of time for championship prep.  i think we played 18 football league games and 14 hurling games this season. that leaves 20 possible match days (10 weeks of the season) free. our fixtures gang decide that playing a 1/4 of our league games in july is a good idea. as i say madness!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 30, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
Purely from a div 1 perspective I saw very little wrong this year.  From what I saw all teams fielded strongly throughout, fixtures where regular and competitive and with the exception of a couple of end of season fixtures everything was well run.

Regarding the feis, I would consider this an important competition, perhaps rather than give off about City teams should organise an equivalent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 30, 2012, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 30, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
Purely from a div 1 perspective I saw very little wrong this year.  From what I saw all teams fielded strongly throughout, fixtures where regular and competitive and with the exception of a couple of end of season fixtures everything was well run.

Regarding the feis, I would consider this an important competition, perhaps rather than give off about City teams should organise an equivalent

I have put this out there before, no reason why belfast teams dont do the same. 6 good teams St Johns, Rossa, St Galls, Lamh Dearg, Sarsfields and St Pauls, Group of 6.

Casement park or wherever 3 fixtures on an evening at hight of Summer. 5 weeks every team plays each other once top 4 go to semi finals/ final, no county players required even a chance to blood some young players. All you have to do is wait to see all county fixtures, then pick five free tuesday nites through the summer and there you go. ok there might be the odd one where there is a football game on the wed nite, just give some footballers a break. these games would as someone said be as good if not better than a tuesday training session.

just a thought, think you would get a few supporters also with six teams involved in an evening with earlier start as no travel involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 01, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 30, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
Antrim leagues come first skull.

Ulster league & feis for example dont involve all clubs so others can't be held to ransom over these.

Belfast dual clubs still suffer from 3games a week - then 3/4 weeks off. Quit with the shutdown for the sake of the minority of county players and spread fixtures out more. Particularly the summer months when players love to be busy.

Thanks for ignoring my hard evidence of the real reasons  my own club mightn't favour an 18 game league. Just skip past it  ::)

Would you mind backing up your opinions this time? I think your making it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 01:17:13 PM
I didn't ignore it skull - I just disagree with the sentiment. There's a massive difference - the fact that I responded pretty well proves I didn't ignore it. Nice stats but I would prefer ulster league & feis excluded as they don't include all teams (or did u ignore that)
In the whole month if august - Div1 had 4games played in total and div2 had 4games in total. One game per team in the whole month of August - I think this is wrong.

Max power - u negate ur own post by saying "from a division1 perspective".
That's the problem - too many people and clubs looking only for themselves. Its the county's job as a whole to look at developing all hurling across the 4 divisions to ultimately improve antrim hurling across the board. I have spoke about this "ourselves alone" attitude that prevails in the big glens clubs.

On the point if organising a Belfast hurling championship - i am not openly against it but why?!
Just run the Antrim league properly and everyone gets sufficient quality games without retreating to narrow tournaments. Where does it stop? Divide the Belfast teams into upper & lower falls tournaments? Divide the feis into coast and inland tournaments?

I mean it's not that big a county for grown men to organise leagues to get sufficient games for all at the right quality - that's fact.
If you think there's too many games - well lets not bring in the feis or ulster league then.
Can't have it both ways!

I don't expect agreement on this one but at least an appreciation of other clubs and the bigger picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
The North Antrim clubs will not ignore the feis btdtgtt, it's a big thing up here. It has a great history of some classic games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 01:55:46 PM
I didn't ask it to be ignored SIE.

It has a fine history but I Remember watching feis games without county players also.

The feis can never ever be used as a reason to effect whole county structures.
That would be a ridiculous assertion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on December 01, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
In days gone by the main game at the Feis was North Antrim v. South Antrim, would that be worth re-introducing?.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 03:25:45 PM
I can nearly hear the cheer from the pound bar!
Ballyhale beaten by oulart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
Otb are some team btdtgtt. Not as big an upset as some might think.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 01, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 03:25:45 PM
I can nearly hear the cheer from the pound bar!
Ballyhale beaten by oulart.

Why ?! Have they not a semi to play first and then either Thurles or OTB ? Some cakewalk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 04:33:54 PM
Absolutely lads but the fact is that the favourites are now out - its a plus for loughiel no matter what way u look at it.
Lets hope one shamrocks fulfills!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 01, 2012, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 03:25:45 PM
I can nearly hear the cheer from the pound bar!
Ballyhale beaten by oulart.

Why ?! Have they not a semi to play first and then either Thurles or OTB ? Some cakewalk.
indeed minder, indeed. Its never won easy. Try telling that to some boys on here though.

Btw, that was only the Leinster semi lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 04:59:42 PM
Shefflin went off injured after 25 minutes or so. No TJ Reid so any team would struggle without them..county or club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
 They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 01, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
Oulart the Ballagh were many pundits favourites last year and got caught on the hop by Coolderry.  Reckon they'll come out of Leinster at Least this year.

some semi final line up

Again more open than previous years, just like last year and we all no what happened.  What odds Oulart and shamrocks final with the slaneysliders running out winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 01, 2012, 07:44:27 PM
OLB are a decent team, threatened for a few years but never delivered, and regardless what happens now only one team left in the competition has experience of planning a winter training program.  Absolutely crucial.

Stroke of luck for all teams left in the competition that Ballyhale had to play without their 2 AllStars.  Given how the report of the second half went I doubt if Shefflin wouldn't have made a positive influence for at least one point.

I think it's scandalous that the GAA are forced to shoe horning matches of this importance into a Saturday in Dec!  Once again illustrates just how unimportant club games are in the grand scheme of things. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
The GAA played it today at the behest of the two clubs.

Why are Kilcormac/Killoughey not being mentioned lads? have yous all given up on the Offaly champions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 01, 2012, 08:05:36 PM
I would understand entirely both clubs wanted it played! My point is hurling is a summer sport! The inter county championship is played in summer! But yet every club player has their shpwpiece finals provincial competitions played in late autumn/winter

Proper inclusive calendar needed!

Think of the bog fields you've watched se recent Munster club championship games in recent years and perhaps that explains only having one All Ireland winning club since the Clare dominance of mid 90's!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
I agree fully max power. The scheduling shows distain for club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
are they a two man team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
are they a two man team?
No but these players are All Stars. One of them probably the greatest hurlers that has ever been. They could make a huge differance..a point each from both of them would win them the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
are they a two man team?
No but these players are All Stars. One of them probably the greatest hurlers that has ever been. They could make a huge differance..a point each from both of them would win them the match.
Your original post stated that any team would struggle. I disagree. Like I said, it will weaken the team but a good team will overcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:57:52 PM
It's the same for the footballers, time some boys got over themselves.

We seem to forget up here that Hurling was historically an Autumn/Winter sport. Time to harden up perhaps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2012, 12:42:34 AM
I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that hurling is a sport for the winter SiE!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2012, 12:42:34 AM
I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that hurling is a sport for the winter SiE!
historically, it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rossa_SMacM on December 02, 2012, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
are they a two man team?
No but these players are All Stars. One of them probably the greatest hurlers that has ever been. They could make a huge differance..a point each from both of them would win them the match.
Your original post stated that any team would struggle. I disagree. Like I said, it will weaken the team but a good team will overcome.

I agree but put the shoe on the other foot and I reckon yourself an the few other Loughguile Ultras on this would be the first to start moaning if for example Winker got injured in the first 5 minutes of your semi final and had to come off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2012, 01:02:11 PM
Quote from: Rossa_SMacM on December 02, 2012, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 01, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
They might have been weakened, but struggle isn't the right turn of phrase thffs. Surely they've strength in their subs?

Credit to Oulart.

Sorry why is not the right turn of phrase?
are they a two man team?
No but these players are All Stars. One of them probably the greatest hurlers that has ever been. They could make a huge differance..a point each from both of them would win them the match.
Your original post stated that any team would struggle. I disagree. Like I said, it will weaken the team but a good team will overcome.

I agree but put the shoe on the other foot and I reckon yourself an the few other Loughguile Ultras on this would be the first to start moaning if for example Winker got injured in the first 5 minutes of your semi final and had to come off.
if he got injured fairly then there's no argument. Replace him and get on with it. No excuses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2012, 08:35:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 04:53:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 30, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
Take a closer look at a busy dual clubs fixture list and tell me that theres alot of down time. I thinks thats a lie that seems to bandied around but doesnt stack up when you look at the facts

Just to back up what I'm saying. Heres the games a dual player in Dunloy gets through. Not much slacking. Would have been more but out footballers got chinned in the first round of the championship. So thats 48 games in a 34 week season

                        Feb   Mar   Apr   May   Jun   Jul   Aug   Sep   Oct      Totals
Football             1      3      4       5      3      5      1                               22
Hurling              3      2      4       2      4      5      1      3      1               26
Total                 4      5      8       7      7      10    2      3      1               48

2 Games in August Skull?

Is that due to clubs not wanting league games so close to championship?


On this issue of club championship being played in Winter, I think that's just inevitable as there's only so many days in the year, but I do think drainage on pitches should be improved to facilitate it and the drainage on our own pitch is pretty poor at the minute.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2012, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2012, 12:42:34 AM
I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that hurling is a sport for the winter SiE!
historically, it is.

Historically we had to learn Irish and practice Mass in hedges as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 03, 2012, 11:47:21 AM
SIE any insight in to the training Loughgiel are doing at the minute? Would they be following the same pattern as last winter or trying to freshen things up a bit?

Suppose there is no point in changing a winning formula.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2012, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 03, 2012, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2012, 12:42:34 AM
I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that hurling is a sport for the winter SiE!
historically, it is.

Historically we had to learn Irish and practice Mass in hedges as well.
indeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2012, 03:11:32 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 03, 2012, 11:47:21 AM
SIE any insight in to the training Loughgiel are doing at the minute? Would they be following the same pattern as last winter or trying to freshen things up a bit?

Suppose there is no point in changing a winning formula.
no idea cs.    ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 03, 2012, 05:17:27 PM
Admire your consistency SIE in never giving away to much on Loughgiel, maybe you are a lot closer to the panel than you let on?

How's the county set up getting on, are they training away at the minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on December 04, 2012, 11:15:19 AM
What do we think about the motions being brought to convention about leagues and championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
What are they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 04, 2012, 01:01:15 PM
changing the current set up from 8 to 10 teams.

also theres talk of basing the chanpionship on the current Div1 standings. if theres 5 in the antrim league then thats all the championship will have. sounds mental i know but apparently thats whats on the table.

maybe i picked the championship proposals up wrong but the league proposal is def right.

dont want the current league set up to change. works well, why change it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2012, 01:01:15 PM
changing the current set up from 8 to 10 teams.

also theres talk of basing the chanpionship on the current Div1 standings. if theres 5 in the antrim league then thats all the championship will have. sounds mental i know but apparently thats whats on the table.

maybe i picked the championship proposals up wrong but the league proposal is def right.

dont want the current league set up to change. works well, why change it

So we will be in the intermediate championship and not allowed to compete outside of Ulster should we win those competitions?? I think there is a rule stopping you from competing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 02:06:38 PM
I think the 10 team Div1 is fine - adding Glenarrife and Ballygalget from what would have been the original structure. DunloyRealist I understand your point "it works fine" might be true for Dunloy and other teams, but its not just about that. There's a bigger picture and in general the Antrim leagues are not working fine!

Not sure whats is intended by championship. I have heard this home&away idea in the first round - what a nonsense! Is the winner decided by aggregate score? This distorts the games. Either go with groups, or stay at knockout.

As for dictating championship entries I am also against this. I think clubs should be able to choose their championship (will explain why in a moment) so long as they cannot drop down a level easily to try and pick up a trophy.
I will take St Galls as an example to illustrate this. St Galls cannot compete all season at the top table due to football commitments (not their fault - the price of supporting both codes as every club should). But for a one-off effort which is what championship is about - well we all know what they are capable of. Therefore let them play senior championship. The alternative is an Intermediate championship which will not develop St Galls - and might rob other teams of a meaningful championship with Ulster qualification.

I suppose its all still a little vague or worthless until we get confirmation of the motions?
Are they all decided one way or another on Wednesday?

Has anyone heard a rumour about Derry clubs entering Antrim leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on December 04, 2012, 02:28:09 PM
Derry hurling clubs invited to play in the Antrim leagues this year. Not sure if many of them are taking up the offer though. Only one so far I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
They were invited?
I was led to believe they requested to join!
Who would have the authority to invite without the consent of Antrim clubs?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
They were invited?
I was led to believe they requested to join!
Who would have the authority to invite without the consent of Antrim clubs?!

I presume any new teams from Derry or otherwise will be joining in Div4 Like Bredagh did?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
They were invited?
I was led to believe they requested to join!
Who would have the authority to invite without the consent of Antrim clubs?!

I presume any new teams from Derry or otherwise will be joining in Div4 Like Bredagh did?

In fairness this would be right, but the likes of Dungiven and Lavey and the likes would find this completely fruitless and not bother turning up. Would also be of no benefit to the other teams in Div 4 for that matter.

Bredagh, while a decent team have found their level at the minute in Div 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on December 04, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
Believe they were invited to participate in Antrim subject to clearance from the Derry County Board, but I think most of them are not taking up the offer as it might clash with the bokeball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 04, 2012, 04:16:16 PM

Motion 5
That all Underage Football and Hurling playing times be unified through the county.
County Committee / Football & Hurling Focus Groups

Motion 6
That the;
Antrim Div 1 Hurling league (2013) consists of 10 teams playing home and away
Antrim Div 2 Hurling league (2013) consists of 10 teams playing home and away
Antrim Div 3 Hurling league (2013) consists of 8 teams playing home and away
Antrim Div 4 Hurling league (2013) consists of 6 teams playing home and away
County Committee / Hurling Focus Group

Motion 7
Antrim Teams who participate in the Div 1 Hurling league - play in the Antrim Senior Hurling Championship in that same year.
Antrim Teams who participate in the Div 2 Hurling league - play in the Antrim Intermediate Hurling Championship in that same year.
Antrim Teams who participate in the Div 3 Hurling league - play in the Antrim Junior Hurling Championship in that same year.
County Committee / Hurling Focus Group

Motion 8
That a Junior "B" Hurling competition be introduced in 2013 for Antrim teams participating in Div 4 of the All County Hurling League.
County Committee / Hurling Focus Group

Motion 9
1st Round games in the Antrim Senior, Intermediate, and Junior Hurling Championships are played on a home and away bases. Winner decided on aggregate score over the 2 games.
County Committee / Hurling Focus Group

Motion 10
Antrim Hurling Competitions from U14 to Minor to be played on an All County bases.
County Committee / Hurling Focus Group
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 05:22:45 PM
Thanks CHB!

All seem ok to me so far apart from the concerns I already expressed on championship grades & aggregate scores. I am really firmly against both.

What do the rest of you guys think?

Can't see the Derry thing working for the sane reason previous posts stated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Re. Motion 7
so having won junior last year we play intermediate next season.....2 grades above our division.. Magic!!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
Against us Last man!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 04, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 03, 2012, 05:17:27 PM
Admire your consistency SIE in never giving away to much on Loughgiel, maybe you are a lot closer to the panel than you let on?

How's the county set up getting on, are they training away at the minute?
I hear rumours that Ryan's backroom team are nearly in place.

Btw CS, Lg are flying in training, apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 04, 2012, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Re. Motion 7
so having won junior last year we play intermediate next season.....2 grades above our division.. Magic!!! :o

You read it that way Last Man?

The way I read that is that you fellas play in the new Junior B championship and Cloughmills play in either the Intermediate or Junior Championship (depending on whether they are in division 2 or 3).

If I am right, it seems incredibly unfair that, having won their respective championships on the basis that winning entitled them to go up a grade, this is taken away from them "after the event."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 09:32:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 08:47:47 PM
Against us Last man!!
jesus wept! What a contest that would be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 04, 2012, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Re. Motion 7
so having won junior last year we play intermediate next season.....2 grades above our division.. Magic!!! :o

Would you not be part of an 8 team div 3 which is only one league down from most intermediate clubs, and cloughmills would be part of div 2 only one leage down from the senior clubs they would play against in championship. with the 10. 10. 8 and 6 format for league numbers, you guys would go up with cdun, glenariff and the tessies???

i think i predicted motion 6 a few months back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 04, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Div 2 and 3 are competitive though are still open to change. Intermedaite C'ship final between 2 Div 3 teams who could hold their own in Div 2. also Clooney Gaels and Armoy. Would it not be possible to Have top 2from Div 2 promoted to Div 1 no relegation(10 team div 1) top 4 in Div 3 all of whome are capable up to div 2 (10 team div 2). and top 4 fom Div 4 up to Div 3 (8 team Div 3).

If you Look at the teams this would involve all the Leagues would be very competitive. Div 1 teams may not want two up but would this really detract from standard as one of the two div 2 teams will be going up anyway and they are of a similar standard.

Just an opnion and not wanting to ruffle any feathers just to see what other people think.

very like motion 6 at the moment, only real way to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 04, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Div 2 and 3 are competitive though are still open to change. Intermediate C'ship final between 2 Div 3 teams who could hold their own in Div 2. also Clooney Gaels and Armoy. Would it not be possible to Have top 2from Div 2 promoted to Div 1 no relegation(10 team div 1) top 4 in Div 3 all of whome are capable up to div 2 (10 team div 2). and top 4 fom Div 4 up to Div 3 (8 team Div 3).

If you Look at the teams this would involve all the Leagues would be very competitive. Div 1 teams may not want two up but would this really detract from standard as one of the two div 2 teams will be going up anyway and they are of a similar standard.

Just an opnion and not wanting to ruffle any feathers just to see what other people think.

very like motion 6 at the moment, only real way to go

I'm not saying we'd win the Intermediate championship but i would say we'd be the bookies fav to win it. We'd get nothing out of competing in it in fairness and would prefer to have a go at Senior Championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
The motion can be confusing without including teams in the scenarios.

Is there anyone who actually believes st galls should be intermediate and not senior championship?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 04, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
The motion can be confusing without including teams in the scenarios.

Is there anyone who actually believes st galls should be intermediate and not senior championship?!

I'm back training and looking for another Intermediate medal!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 04, 2012, 11:09:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 04, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 08:22:41 AM
Div 2 and 3 are competitive though are still open to change. Intermediate C'ship final between 2 Div 3 teams who could hold their own in Div 2. also Clooney Gaels and Armoy. Would it not be possible to Have top 2from Div 2 promoted to Div 1 no relegation(10 team div 1) top 4 in Div 3 all of whome are capable up to div 2 (10 team div 2). and top 4 fom Div 4 up to Div 3 (8 team Div 3).

If you Look at the teams this would involve all the Leagues would be very competitive. Div 1 teams may not want two up but would this really detract from standard as one of the two div 2 teams will be going up anyway and they are of a similar standard.

Just an opnion and not wanting to ruffle any feathers just to see what other people think.

very like motion 6 at the moment, only real way to go

I'm not saying we'd win the Intermediate championship but i would say we'd be the bookies fav to win it. We'd get nothing out of competing in it in fairness and would prefer to have a go at Senior Championship



I agree with you in terms of championship (motion 7), i was more thinking of motion 6. but i do agree with you in terms of Galls. I would say keep championships the same as last year with the exception of champ winners going up. with also no one allowed to drop below their league. what would be wrong with that. you can act up if you win the right but cannot choose to drop below that of your league standing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 04, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
+1 - this should not apply to St Endas and to Cloughmills (if it goes through). Both entered (as did all teams in junior and intermediate) on the basis that winning the championship allowed them to enter the championship above. This historic right and privilege can't just be changed to suit a new plan. Tinkering with leagues is all well and good but the carrot of stepping up a grade is what teams at this level yearn for. If proposals go through then these two should be excluded...everyone enters leagues next year knowing the story for the following year's championship.

Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 04, 2012, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Re. Motion 7
so having won junior last year we play intermediate next season.....2 grades above our division.. Magic!!! :o

You read it that way Last Man?

The way I read that is that you fellas play in the new Junior B championship and Cloughmills play in either the Intermediate or Junior Championship (depending on whether they are in division 2 or 3).

If I am right, it seems incredibly unfair that, having won their respective championships on the basis that winning entitled them to go up a grade, this is taken away from them "after the event."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 04, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
League and championships should remain as they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 09:22:09 AM
I agree completely Glensman - CHB I dont even think the status quo is an option!
Too many problems in both leagues and championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 05, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
I believe that we should run with the league changes that are suggested and hold off on the championship proposals until the year after. That would be the most realistic situation to follow, therefore here in Antrim, that will not happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on December 05, 2012, 02:36:23 PM
I would hazard a guess that an amendment to the motion will be made! So that a team can opt to play in the championship above their respective league (teams such as galls/lamhs/rossa) - however they cannot opt to play the championship below!

If this doesnt happen, i would imagine most  teams would be wasting their time playing intermediate with st.galls in it - equally Ulster would be a farce!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on December 05, 2012, 02:36:23 PM
I would hazard a guess that an amendment to the motion will be made! So that a team can opt to play in the championship above their respective league (teams such as galls/lamhs/rossa) - however they cannot opt to play the championship below!

If this doesnt happen, i would imagine most  teams would be wasting their time playing intermediate with st.galls in it - equally Ulster would be a farce!

Lamhs - are they not intermediate as per league standing and this is where they belong
Rossa - Div1 is senior championship and this is where they belong

Galls - Agreed major discrepency as stated. Belong in senior championship but div2

But yes a team should be able to opt to play above but not below.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
Pj O'Mullan snr definitely one of Ryan's selectors.Good man for the job, plenty of knowledge about the game and the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
Pj O'Mullan snr definitely one of Ryan's selectors.Good man for the job, plenty of knowledge about the game and the players.

Good for radical new thinking too, finger on the pulse of new coaching and team development techniques  >:(

Is this just a sop to keep the LG boys on board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2012, 04:05:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
Pj O'Mullan snr definitely one of Ryan's selectors.Good man for the job, plenty of knowledge about the game and the players.

Good for radical new thinking too, finger on the pulse of new coaching and team development techniques  >:(

Is this just a sop to keep the LG boys on board?
he's a selector nag, not a coach.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
You got to laugh the commotion over selectors starting here already - never mind within he squad!

Any more selectors SiE? Anyone from city?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 05, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: Glensman on December 04, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
+1 - this should not apply to St Endas and to Cloughmills (if it goes through). Both entered (as did all teams in junior and intermediate) on the basis that winning the championship allowed them to enter the championship above. This historic right and privilege can't just be changed to suit a new plan. Tinkering with leagues is all well and good but the carrot of stepping up a grade is what teams at this level yearn for. If proposals go through then these two should be excluded...everyone enters leagues next year knowing the story for the following year's championship.

Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 04, 2012, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 04, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Re. Motion 7
so having won junior last year we play intermediate next season.....2 grades above our division.. Magic!!! :o

You read it that way Last Man?

The way I read that is that you fellas play in the new Junior B championship and Cloughmills play in either the Intermediate or Junior Championship (depending on whether they are in division 2 or 3).

If I am right, it seems incredibly unfair that, having won their respective championships on the basis that winning entitled them to go up a grade, this is taken away from them "after the event."
We would have no issue if playing in Div.3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
You got to laugh the commotion over selectors starting here already - never mind within he squad!

Any more selectors SiE? Anyone from city?
haven't heard anyone else being mentioned yet.

Shea Casey, Eddie and Tony McCloskey are joining the Antrim panel after the all Ireland. Maybe more joining them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 05, 2012, 09:39:15 PM
Leagues changed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 05, 2012, 09:49:13 PM
Teams can opt for championship level above league seeding, but can not play down a grade.

EG St Galls (div 2) can play Senior or Intermediate.

Winners of Junior 'B' to play in Junior 'A' championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Thanks CHB let us all know any more updates particularly championship format. U seem to be in the know!

SiE it would appear then sense has prevailed with Kevin Ryan waiting on the shamrocks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 05, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 05, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Thanks CHB let us all know any more updates particularly championship format. U seem to be in the know!

SiE it would appear then sense has prevailed with Kevin Ryan waiting on the shamrocks?
Hopefully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 05, 2012, 11:03:03 PM
Strange one that after the final few weeks battle between Rossa and Glenariff in div 2, that it would inevitably not matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 06, 2012, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 05, 2012, 11:03:03 PM
Strange one that after the final few weeks battle between Rossa and Glenariff in div 2, that it would inevitably not matter.

There was talk of a 10 team division 1 around the time of those games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
There's always talk of alot of things Minder especially as leagues come to a conclusion - whats your point?
Surely you are not suggesting some gossip affected the results?!
I maintain had Rossa not have won the 'play-offs' there would not have been any re-structure.
I am not accusing Glenarrife of forcing this isssue - but their Glens cousins wouldnt have went along with this had a city team been in 2nd place - fact.
Hopefully Oisins can make light of it and stay up - I'd prefer a Down team relegated!
Sorry JohnnyCool!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2012, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
There's always talk of alot of things Minder especially as leagues come to a conclusion - whats your point?
Surely you are not suggesting some gossip affected the results?!
I maintain had Rossa not have won the 'play-offs' there would not have been any re-structure.
I am not accusing Glenarrife of forcing this isssue - but their Glens cousins wouldnt have went along with this had a city team been in 2nd place - fact.
Hopefully Oisins can make light of it and stay up - I'd prefer a Down team relegated!
Sorry JohnnyCool!

I doubt that it affected the result at all and Rossa won the league fair and square. As for the re-structuring it wasn't really down to the Glens men btdtgtt. This was acually a move by Belfast men and nothing to do with the Glens men, though in the past (as with other clubs) this wasn't the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2012, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
There's always talk of alot of things Minder especially as leagues come to a conclusion - whats your point?
Surely you are not suggesting some gossip affected the results?!
I maintain had Rossa not have won the 'play-offs' there would not have been any re-structure.
I am not accusing Glenarrife of forcing this isssue - but their Glens cousins wouldnt have went along with this had a city team been in 2nd place - fact.
Hopefully Oisins can make light of it and stay up - I'd prefer a Down team relegated!
Sorry JohnnyCool!

I doubt that it affected the result at all and Rossa won the league fair and square. As for the re-structuring it wasn't really down to the Glens Ballycastle men btdtgtt. This was acually a move by Belfast men and nothing to do with the Glens Ballycastle men, though in the past (as with other clubs) this wasn't the case.

Fixed that for you milltown  :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2012, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 06, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2012, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
There's always talk of alot of things Minder especially as leagues come to a conclusion - whats your point?
Surely you are not suggesting some gossip affected the results?!
I maintain had Rossa not have won the 'play-offs' there would not have been any re-structure.
I am not accusing Glenarrife of forcing this isssue - but their Glens cousins wouldnt have went along with this had a city team been in 2nd place - fact.
Hopefully Oisins can make light of it and stay up - I'd prefer a Down team relegated!
Sorry JohnnyCool!

I doubt that it affected the result at all and Rossa won the league fair and square. As for the re-structuring it wasn't really down to the Glens Ballycastle men btdtgtt. This was acually a move by Belfast men and nothing to do with the Glens Ballycastle men, though in the past (as with other clubs) this wasn't the case.

Fixed that for you milltown  :)

I've tried to move on Skull  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2012, 11:24:02 AM
(http://swblog.spaweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/innerpeace.jpg)

You need to find your inner peace man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
Did anybody manage to find out from Convention if there was any confirmation of the championship structure next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 06, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
There's always talk of alot of things Minder especially as leagues come to a conclusion - whats your point?
Surely you are not suggesting some gossip affected the results?!
I maintain had Rossa not have won the 'play-offs' there would not have been any re-structure.
I am not accusing Glenarrife of forcing this isssue - but their Glens cousins wouldnt have went along with this had a city team been in 2nd place - fact.
Hopefully Oisins can make light of it and stay up - I'd prefer a Down team relegated!
Sorry JohnnyCool!

No need to apologise btdtgtt, we're bottom of the league for a reason and I don't see us improving for another year or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 06, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
btgtgtt

You seem to be seriously over estimating the support Glenarriffe would have in North Antrim, not too many clubs would be rushing to their after their behaviour in a couple of different episodes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
Recent episodes?

I am not saying its necessarily support for Glenarrife - I am just saying it was a city team there would be definite opposition to it.
Have I a chip on my shoulder? Yes.
But its happened before!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2012, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
Did anybody manage to find out from Convention if there was any confirmation of the championship structure next year?
The two legged thing was threw out. Never was wanted.
At the min the Antrim teams in div 1 will all play senior championship with st galls havin the option to play either. Same with cloughmills as the intermediaye winners.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
Recent episodes?

I am not saying its necessarily support for Glenarrife - I am just saying it was a city team there would be definite opposition to it.
Have I a chip on my shoulder? Yes.
But its happened before!
For the record our club was against the expansion regardless of who was going to come up to make the 10.
IMO it won't work with ten as it happened before with games not being played. 18 games to complete? I will be amazed of they are all played in most cases.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on December 06, 2012, 04:17:51 PM
Think the 10 team Division 1 was the recommendation of the Hurling Focus Group with Championship being determined by a club's league status. St Gall's are in Division 2 but can play senior championship if desired. A club can if they wish play in the Championship above their division but cannot drop to a lesser championship. eg a Division 2 team cannot play in the Junior Hurling Championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 04:31:31 PM
I don't think 18 games is alot to ask even by Antrim fixture standards but time will tell.

Certainly glad the home/away was discarded!

Do league standings affect championship grade only or the actual draw ie seeding?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 06, 2012, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 04:31:31 PM
I don't think 18 games is alot to ask even by Antrim fixture standards but time will tell.

Certainly glad the home/away was discarded!

Do league standings affect championship grade only or the actual draw ie seeding?
The league is only a bearing on what championship you can enter. Don't think there's seeding as there's no enough teams to do that.

I don't mind all the extra games but for long periods this season we had breaks due to county football and hurling. The dual clubs get it tighter than the hurling clubs.

Hopefully it works.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 06:54:18 PM
I have made that point before - its the "big long breaks" that need to stop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on December 06, 2012, 09:40:08 PM
Btdtgtt, the only possible way the long breaks will cease is if the clubs play without their County players and the Clubs your and mine refuse to do so for many logical reasons. I have studied the fixture list for years and i'm afraid its unfortunately as good its going to get at the minute,in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled John on December 06, 2012, 10:56:33 PM
Two years ago when a few motions went to county convention on changing league structures and were dismissed was there not a bye-law implemented that stated all future changes to leagues would take 1 year to implement. (Think it was to stop clubs attempting to 'promote' themselves through structure changes).

If so are the county board breaking their own rules by implementing these changes??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2012, 11:05:28 PM
Yes...I thought that was the case..forgot about that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
If it was carried by a simple majority then ut would take 1year to implement.
That bye-law included a clause which stated that leagues could be changed straight away if a large enough majority (I believe 2/3) was in favour. This is common practice with all regulations after all if 100% wanted urgent change why would any organisation want to be in a regulation straight jacket.

As for the long breaks - the solution is not for clubs to play without county players - it's for the county to stop this ridiculous practice of grinding the bread and butter games to a halt because of the procession of games far in advance! We face weeks on end for the sake of 15 guys getting ready to play a Carlow or a Westmeath!
And on another point - they are not county players - they are club players representing the county.
Lets agree on 6/7days clear before a championship game - no more. 1lwqgue fixture in the whole of August in shameful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 06, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 06, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
If it was carried by a simple majority then ut would take 1year to implement.
That bye-law included a clause which stated that leagues could be changed straight away if a large enough majority (I believe 2/3) was in favour. This is common practice with all regulations after all if 100% wanted urgent change why would any organisation want to be in a regulation straight jacket.

As for the long breaks - the solution is not for clubs to play without county players - it's for the county to stop this ridiculous practice of grinding the bread and butter games to a halt because of the procession of games far in advance! We face weeks on end for the sake of 15 guys getting ready to play a Carlow or a Westmeath!
And on another point - they are not county players - they are club players representing the county.
Lets agree on 6/7days clear before a championship game - no more. 1lwqgue fixture in the whole of August in shameful.

100% correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 08, 2012, 11:53:57 AM
I fancy kilcormac/Killoughey for Leinster tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
Not very savvy with twitter myself SiE but is there a Watson story there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 08, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
I wouldn't have thought so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 08, 2012, 04:35:40 PM
Heard what happened last night with him but I ain't carrying stories.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
With HIM!?   Funny it was another lads name that has been mentioned.    Go on.  Give me a laugh Realist
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 08, 2012, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
With HIM!?   Funny it was another lads name that has been mentioned.    Go on.  Give me a laugh Realist
Reading between the lines on Twitter he appears to have got into a row with Shane McNaughton.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
Without being to gossipy anyone know who where & why?

I am sure Kevin Ryan will be delighted!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2012, 05:51:31 PM
Ulster awards.  Last night. Two much drink
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 08, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2012, 05:51:31 PM
Ulster awards.  Last night. Two much drink
Exactly. A non-story. I would say there are few big club and Christmas dinners without a row after a few too many.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
Very true - but they're normally storms in tea cups in privacy.

Not a pair of county players from different clubs in front of the rest of ulster!

I hope u are right lads and it was a nothing incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 08, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
Very true - but they're normally storms in tea cups in privacy.

Not a pair of county players from different clubs in front of the rest of ulster!

I hope u are right lads and it was a nothing incident.

Could have had it out at our very successful boxing and casino night in the club. Was a great nights craic with county hurler and footballer on show!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 08:19:09 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 09, 2012, 03:43:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 08, 2012, 09:41:45 PM
Joe McKelvey - founding member of Ó Donnabháin Rosa CLG.

90th anniversary.

Go ndéanaí Dia a mhaith air.

ODR abu, i dont give a shit what happened up the glen with the two best players we have at the moment. at a time like this i think we should all be able to pull together as a county, but that is if the people up the road would know about the struggle, im exempting dunloy from this btw.

at the same time im getting a bit fed up with the tri colour burning, that was the ODR shirt if im not wrong, he would turn,

anyone else???
Please clarify this, thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 09, 2012, 09:09:34 AM
Online dispute resolution (ODR) is a branch of dispute resolution which uses technology to facilitate the resolution of disputes between parties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 09, 2012, 09:36:47 AM
ODR meaning, Ó Donnabháin Rosa, and if you look back the origional shirt worn was a white shirt with a Tri Colour in the middle, the comment in reaction to the burning of tri colours all over belfast yesterday, one of which i witnessed first hand last night. while everyone gets their knickers in a twist over two egos having a barney at ulster awards. is it not time we pulled together for the common good and betterment of the county instead of letting a stupid argument fracture the county any further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 09:45:16 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 09, 2012, 09:36:47 AM
ODR meaning, Ó Donnabháin Rosa, and if you look back the origional shirt worn was a white shirt with a Tri Colour in the middle, the comment in reaction to the burning of tri colours all over belfast yesterday, one of which i witnessed first hand last night. while everyone gets their knickers in a twist over two egos having a barney at ulster awards. is it not time we pulled together for the common good and betterment of the county instead of letting a stupid argument fracture the county any further.
i know what ODR means. I meant your comment about people up the road knowing about the struggle. Please clarify what you mean by using that terminology.

Dangerous territory there, if you ask me. This is, after all, a GAA board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 09, 2012, 09:56:49 AM
must have forgot myself in the midst of my anger, just ignore me as you usually do. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 09, 2012, 10:38:29 AM
This is an Antrim Hurling discussion board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
Even with my open city (and republican) bias lads can we leave that stuff off this board altogether!!!

2 hands is right there are other boards for that debate- although why anyone would want to debate it is beyond me!

Hurling anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rossa_SMacM on December 09, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
The PSNI have entered the room ffs. Relax!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2012, 01:20:09 PM
No they're busy hurling for st brigids!
Joke - apologies Malone Gaels!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
I think some of you need to go off and do some research before you comment any further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2012, 05:00:22 PM
Yes      Like maybe a certain lad that shared a cell with one of belfasts finest for 18 months.   Typical city men.    Fuckin ejits!!!!     Now back to hurling.    Cause I would possibly be blocked if I said what I'd like to.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
Jubilee Team

N Keith (Down); N Sands (Down); D McKinley (Antrim); D Donnelly (Antrim); P Braniff (Down); N McManus (Antrim); C Herron (Antrim); P McKillen (Antrim); T McNaughton (Antrim); G O'Kane (Antrim); O Collins (Derry);
G O'Kane (Antrim); L Watson (Antrim); C Barr (Antrim); O McFetridge (Antrim)

what do we think of the team that has been selected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 09, 2012, 07:45:43 PM
That team is wrong. Noel Sands corner forward, Paddy Braniff corner back & Gary O'Kane wing half, Sambo & Ollie Collins are other way about. Watson wing half forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
My bad.      Offaly lads beat ourlart also.     I'd say the Wexford lads are wondering what they have to do to get a Leinster championship ,  finally got past ballyhale to!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 09, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2012, 08:03:42 PM
My bad.      Offaly lads beat ourlart also.     I'd say the Wexford lads are wondering what they have to do to get a Leinster championship ,  finally got past ballyhale to!
Well that was the team in the Irish News so blame them 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 09, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.

Have you seen them play before ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 09, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.

Have you seen them play before ?
there were a lot of miles covered over the last couple of months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 09, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.

Have you seen them play before ?
there were a lot of miles covered over the last couple of months.

You'll hardly want another handy Offaly team in the final again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 10, 2012, 06:20:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 09, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.

Have you seen them play before ?
there were a lot of miles covered over the last couple of months.

You'll hardly want another handy Offaly team in the final again!!
A bit disrespectful to the Leinster champions there MR2. No handy games at this stage, you should know that.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2012, 08:52:07 AM
theres a few teams over the years thought that about the antrim champions and found out to their misfortune!

i fancy lgiel to win it if they get into the final. thurles sarsfields look good and have some cracking hurlers but have no experience at this stage.

i know eff all bout the leinster champs. i thought OTB would have won it having finally got by the KK champs in leinster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 10, 2012, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
With HIM!?   Funny it was another lads name that has been mentioned.    Go on.  Give me a laugh Realist

with him and another then i should have said.

still it aint fair to carry stories.

drink is bad lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2012, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 10, 2012, 06:20:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 09, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 09, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I fancied kilcormac/Killoughey all the way today. I hear our semi is definitely on Feb 9th. No venue confirmed yet. Hopefully early this week we'll know.

Have you seen them play before ?
there were a lot of miles covered over the last couple of months.

You'll hardly want another handy Offaly team in the final again!!
A bit disrespectful to the Leinster champions there MR2. No handy games at this stage, you should know that.  ;)

I can only go on form, and in last years final the Leinster champions were crap, unless something changes I can only see one winner from this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 10:08:55 AM
You would have to fancy Thurles to beat that Offaly crowd - Oulart must be kicking themselves.
St Thomas won't be easy for Loughiel before then however - and given the standard they set themselves I am sure the Shamrocks will not be leaving any stone unturned for the semi-final.
I dont think venue will be confirmed until close to the time tho?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2012, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 10:08:55 AM
You would have to fancy Thurles to beat that Offaly crowd - Oulart must be kicking themselves.
St Thomas won't be easy for Loughiel before then however - and given the standard they set themselves I am sure the Shamrocks will not be leaving any stone unturned for the semi-final.
I dont think venue will be confirmed until close to the time tho?

I'd be very surprised if it's not Parnell, has been the venue for a lot of the games recently with Ulster teams in the Hurling. Doubt Clones will get the nod or Mullingar. And besides I always stop over for a few pints, so Dublin is the better venue  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 10, 2012, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2012, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 10:08:55 AM
You would have to fancy Thurles to beat that Offaly crowd - Oulart must be kicking themselves.
St Thomas won't be easy for Loughiel before then however - and given the standard they set themselves I am sure the Shamrocks will not be leaving any stone unturned for the semi-final.
I dont think venue will be confirmed until close to the time tho?

I'd be very surprised if it's not Parnell, has been the venue for a lot of the games recently with Ulster teams in the Hurling. Doubt Clones will get the nod or Mullingar. And besides I always stop over for a few pints, so Dublin is the better venue  :P

For that very reason I could see it being Mullingar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 10, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 10:08:55 AM
You would have to fancy Thurles to beat that Offaly crowd - Oulart must be kicking themselves.
St Thomas won't be easy for Loughiel before then however - and given the standard they set themselves I am sure the Shamrocks will not be leaving any stone unturned for the semi-final.
I dont think venue will be confirmed until close to the time tho?
Winter hurling doesn't suit many players, whoever adapts/copes well with the weather can hold a big advantage over pedegree. Being used to the tight frosts round the midlands is sticking to the Offaly boys so far anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2012, 11:50:44 AM
Quote from: Last Man on December 10, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 10:08:55 AM
You would have to fancy Thurles to beat that Offaly crowd - Oulart must be kicking themselves.
St Thomas won't be easy for Loughiel before then however - and given the standard they set themselves I am sure the Shamrocks will not be leaving any stone unturned for the semi-final.
I dont think venue will be confirmed until close to the time tho?
Winter hurling doesn't suit many players, whoever adapts/copes well with the weather can hold a big advantage over pedegree. Being used to the tight frosts round the midlands is sticking to the Offaly boys so far anyway.

Never mind Offaly, I've not warmed up from Jordanstown yesterday FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 10, 2012, 12:19:04 PM
You should have known it wasnt a good gig when Speedy didnt snap it up first ;D
Sure you never left the centre circle, any wonder you were froze!! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2012, 01:23:17 PM
Well going by the bookies.  Thurles is big favorites to win out right and st Thomas is 2nd favorites.   Happy enough with that to be honest.  Nothing expected of our lads outside of our own club and a few others in the county. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
.....and the bookies haven't got it wrong by a country mile in the past have they  ::). There're a bit like ulster GAA writers when it comes to club hurling.

I think loughgiel are the team to beat based on the form they showed when they got out of ulster last year and them being as hungry as ever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2012, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:47 PM
.....and the bookies haven't got it wrong by a country mile in the past have they  ::). There're a bit like ulster GAA writers when it comes to club hurling.

I think loughgiel are the team to beat based on the form they showed when they got out of ulster last year and them being as hungry as ever

+1 to all of that especially Ulster GAA Writers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
I no they have    But the fact that know1 outside our own is giving us much hope,will hopefully do what it done last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2012, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 10, 2012, 12:19:04 PM
You should have known it wasnt a good gig when Speedy didnt snap it up first ;D
Sure you never left the centre circle, any wonder you were froze!! :P

Right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 3leafer on December 10, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
http://www.uibhfhaili.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5919&start=120#p40237

Have look at this post on the Offaly website quoting what the thurles boys are saying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 10, 2012, 06:25:43 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 10, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
http://www.uibhfhaili.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5919&start=120#p40237

Have look at this post on the Offaly website quoting what the thurles boys are saying
No real surprise there, they'd want to mind themselves.. that will KK at it till Feb anyway ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
I no they have    But the fact that know1 outside our own is giving us much hope,will hopefully do what it done last year
Just shows the ignorance and the lack of respect that Antrim hurling has regardless of loughgiel winning it last year. A bit pathetic considering not one of the other 3 have ever been this far.
I remember dunloy being 10-1 v mount sion! And yes we all made a fortune in the bookies in millingar that day! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
New look Antrim panel is as follows:

Ballycastle : KB McShane, N McAuley, R McGarry, M Donnelly, M Dallat

Cloughmills: C Laverty, M Devlin

Dunloy: P Doherty, K McKeague, C McKinley

Gort na Mona : D McLean

Creggan: C McCann

Loughgiel: T McCloskey, E McCloskey, S Casey

Glenariff: S McToal, M Gettens

Rossa: S Beattie, C McGuinness

Cushendall: S McNaughton, C Carson, N McManus, A Graffin,

Sarsfields: K McKernan, C Rea

Glenarm: D Hammill

St Galls: K Stewart

St Johns: C Morgan, B McFall, C McFall, S McCrory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 11, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
I no they have    But the fact that know1 outside our own is giving us much hope,will hopefully do what it done last year
Just shows the ignorance and the lack of respect that Antrim hurling has regardless of loughgiel winning it last year. A bit pathetic considering not one of the other 3 have ever been this far.
I remember dunloy being 10-1 v mount sion! And yes we all made a fortune in the bookies in millingar that day! Lol

Was there that day myself, made a few pound also, the local bookie didn't believe us lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 11, 2012, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 11, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
I no they have    But the fact that know1 outside our own is giving us much hope,will hopefully do what it done last year
Just shows the ignorance and the lack of respect that Antrim hurling has regardless of loughgiel winning it last year. A bit pathetic considering not one of the other 3 have ever been this far.
I remember dunloy being 10-1 v mount sion! And yes we all made a fortune in the bookies in millingar that day! Lol

Was there that day myself, made a few pound also, the local bookie didn't believe us lol

Aye we've had a few free days out thanks to the southern bookies and their ignorance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
New look Antrim panel is as follows:

Ballycastle : KB McShane, N McAuley, R McGarry, M Donnelly, M Dallat

Cloughmills: C Laverty, M Devlin

Dunloy: P Doherty, K McKeague, C McKinley

Gort na Mona : D McLean

Creggan: C McCann

Loughgiel: T McCloskey, E McCloskey, S Casey

Glenariff: S McToal, M Gettens

Rossa: S Beattie, C McGuinness

Cushendall: S McNaughton, C Carson, N McManus, A Graffin,

Sarsfields: K McKernan, C Rea

Glenarm: D Hammill

St Galls: K Stewart

St Johns: C Morgan, B McFall, C McFall, S McCrory

Interesting.

On the negative side once again we see a panel with some of our top players missing, and a few involved to will be out of their depth at inter-county level.
However, the absent players cannot be helped in many cases and certainly are not the fault of Kevin Ryan.
Lets hope the guys here have the commitment and attiude to make up for them. Thats often more important than raw ability.

Looking at the city contingent:
I am delighted to see Kevin McKeirnan involved - for me he is arguably the best prospect in Belfast. Seen him hurl a few times this year and particularly against Glenarrife he showed real talent. Not afraid to mix it either, although hopefully maturity will limit the red cards.

MR2 – Glad Stewarty straight back he remains one of the best in Ulster. No McGourty?
What is the story with McAreavy this weather?

Surprised at the inclusion of Beattie - Hardstation? He was standing beside me in one game this year as he didnt make the Rossa team?!

Dessie McLean from Gort certainly deserves an oppportunity - I really mean no disrespect to Gort here but I've often wondered what he would be like at a higher level.

From the Johnnies I think McCrory was a given - great work rate and attitude. Personally I think both McFauls are a bit over-rated, they seem to promise alot but deliver little on the pitch. And I must confess ignorance on C Morgan?


Any Glensmen give us a rundown on the less familiar names or others that are missing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on December 11, 2012, 03:36:15 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
New look Antrim panel is as follows:

Ballycastle : KB McShane, N McAuley, R McGarry, M Donnelly, M Dallat

Cloughmills: C Laverty, M Devlin

Dunloy: P Doherty, K McKeague, C McKinley

Gort na Mona : D McLean

Creggan: C McCann

Loughgiel: T McCloskey, E McCloskey, S Casey

Glenariff: S McToal, M Gettens

Rossa: S Beattie, C McGuinness

Cushendall: S McNaughton, C Carson, N McManus, A Graffin,

Sarsfields: K McKernan, C Rea

Glenarm: D Hammill

St Galls: K Stewart

St Johns: C Morgan, B McFall, C McFall, S McCrory

Well i suppose Kevin Ryan has to go with what he has but it will be difficult to pick a strong first 15 out of these lads never mind a strong bench. But that said if these 30 odd names are turning up for training evey night and doing all that is asked of them then good luck to them and maybe a little pride could be restored in the set up therefore encouraging more interest..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 04:36:33 PM
Lets hope is is right riddler.
Hopefully a content committed squad.

HS I don't think an inter county senior team is the place for a player with potential - they should be established senior players. Stephen Shannon not involved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on December 11, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
They should push the boat out to get Ciaran Clarke (Ballycastle)involved in the county set-up. Potentially the best Antrim forward in many years and worth waiting for, until the soccer season is over.

Those Tipp ones are an arrogant shower and I hope the Shamrocks meet them in the final and stuff them. I clearly remember some of their players making disparaging comments about Antrim in 1990, the year after they beat us in the AI final. At the time they said they had to beat one of the strong counties to be regarded as a good team. Ever since, I love to see them hammered, as the Cats did to them this year.

Never thought I'd say it, but come on the Shamrocks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2012, 07:28:48 PM
Oh, would you look at that. I got all three shamrocks players on the Antrim panel correct a week before they were announced.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2012, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
New look Antrim panel is as follows:

Ballycastle : KB McShane, N McAuley, R McGarry, M Donnelly, M Dallat

Cloughmills: C Laverty, M Devlin

Dunloy: P Doherty, K McKeague, C McKinley

Gort na Mona : D McLean

Creggan: C McCann

Loughgiel: T McCloskey, E McCloskey, S Casey

Glenariff: S McToal, M Gettens

Rossa: S Beattie, C McGuinness

Cushendall: S McNaughton, C Carson, N McManus, A Graffin,

Sarsfields: K McKernan, C Rea

Glenarm: D Hammill

St Galls: K Stewart

St Johns: C Morgan, B McFall, C McFall, S McCrory

Interesting.

On the negative side once again we see a panel with some of our top players missing, and a few involved to will be out of their depth at inter-county level.
However, the absent players cannot be helped in many cases and certainly are not the fault of Kevin Ryan.
Lets hope the guys here have the commitment and attiude to make up for them. Thats often more important than raw ability.

Looking at the city contingent:
I am delighted to see Kevin McKeirnan involved - for me he is arguably the best prospect in Belfast. Seen him hurl a few times this year and particularly against Glenarrife he showed real talent. Not afraid to mix it either, although hopefully maturity will limit the red cards.

MR2 – Glad Stewarty straight back he remains one of the best in Ulster. No McGourty?
What is the story with McAreavy this weather?

Surprised at the inclusion of Beattie - Hardstation? He was standing beside me in one game this year as he didnt make the Rossa team?!

Dessie McLean from Gort certainly deserves an oppportunity - I really mean no disrespect to Gort here but I've often wondered what he would be like at a higher level.

From the Johnnies I think McCrory was a given - great work rate and attitude. Personally I think both McFauls are a bit over-rated, they seem to promise alot but deliver little on the pitch. And I must confess ignorance on C Morgan?


Any Glensmen give us a rundown on the less familiar names or others that are missing?
If that is the gaffers panel then no-one is "missing"  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2012, 07:28:48 PM
Oh, would you look at that. I got all three shamrocks players on the Antrim panel correct a week before they were announced.  ;)

That would be like me getting the Galls player who's picked for the Antrim team!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
SiE and mr2 have u both fallen out?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 11, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Johnnie Tosh involved in the back room team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2012, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 11, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Johnnie Tosh involved in the back room team.
That news was in Saturday's paper. Also mentioned that sprinter Paul McKee would be assisting in the fitness work with a focus on speed and flexibility rather than strength and conditioning more suited to footballers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 11, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2012, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 11, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
Johnnie Tosh involved in the back room team.
That news was in Saturday's paper. Also mentioned that sprinter Paul McKee would be assisting in the fitness work with a focus on speed and flexibility rather than strength and conditioning more suited to footballers.

I haven't time to read newspapers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 04:36:33 PM

HS I don't think an inter county senior team is the place for a player with potential - they should be established senior players. Stephen Shannon not involved?

Had heard somewhere that he is due an operation at some stage.

Think we can assume the names that people are thinking about not being involved, don't want to be involved so no point discussing it any further. Good luck to those named.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 11, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 04:36:33 PM

HS I don't think an inter county senior team is the place for a player with potential - they should be established senior players. Stephen Shannon not involved?

Had heard somewhere that he is due an operation at some stage.

Think we can assume the names that people are thinking about not being involved, don't want to be involved so no point discussing it any further. Good luck to those named.
Ryan has said there may be further cuts but there will be no additions and appears to be adopting a decent pragmatic approach. He will work with boys that are interested and not give the others a second thought. Seems fair enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
That's fair enough - if it produces a cohesive squad then that's some form of progress at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2012, 05:35:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 11, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
SiE and mr2 have u both fallen out?!
Not me. Mr2 seems to have taken umbrage with me about something. He's been on my case for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2012, 05:38:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 11, 2012, 07:28:48 PM
Oh, would you look at that. I got all three shamrocks players on the Antrim panel correct a week before they were announced.  ;)

That would be like me getting the Galls player who's picked for the Antrim team!!!
to be fair, we all could have done that mr2.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Is refreshing actually to hear that a door is closed, I have become increasingly fed up with these managers with their open ended panels, begging at player's doors to come out and play. That is not the way to gain commitment. All the sound bites are right now lets just hope he can mould them into a team that we can get behind and be proud of. For starters if he gets them training and fully committed I for one will be proud and there to support them, regardless of results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2012, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Is refreshing actually to hear that a door is closed, I have become increasingly fed up with these managers with their open ended panels, begging at player's doors to come out and play. That is not the way to gain commitment. All the sound bites are right now lets just hope he can mould them into a team that we can get behind and be proud of. For starters if he gets them training and fully committed I for one will be proud and there to support them, regardless of results.

Couldnt agree more NAG1.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on December 12, 2012, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Is refreshing actually to hear that a door is closed, I have become increasingly fed up with these managers with their open ended panels, begging at player's doors to come out and play. That is not the way to gain commitment. All the sound bites are right now lets just hope he can mould them into a team that we can get behind and be proud of. For starters if he gets them training and fully committed I for one will be proud and there to support them, regardless of results.

I think we all agree in principle with what KR is trying to do but i think in reality things will be very different. If the door is firmly closed then i think we will see Antrim carrying a panal of about 18 players by June.  There is only 30 players on this panal at present and if the past is anything to go by then there will be 4-5 drop off by Feb-March time and with a few injuries here and there, exam commitments etc you are down to training sessions of 10-12 people again. I know that sounds pessimistic but it will prove fact. I think starting with a larger panal would have been better, let the panal cut its self naturally first and then you have your core 30 to drive on with for the rest of the season. Just my take on it..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on December 12, 2012, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Is refreshing actually to hear that a door is closed, I have become increasingly fed up with these managers with their open ended panels, begging at player's doors to come out and play. That is not the way to gain commitment. All the sound bites are right now lets just hope he can mould them into a team that we can get behind and be proud of. For starters if he gets them training and fully committed I for one will be proud and there to support them, regardless of results.

I think we all agree in principle with what KR is trying to do but i think in reality things will be very different. If the door is firmly closed then i think we will see Antrim carrying a panal of about 18 players by June.  There is only 30 players on this panal at present and if the past is anything to go by then there will be 4-5 drop off by Feb-March time and with a few injuries here and there, exam commitments etc you are down to training sessions of 10-12 people again. I know that sounds pessimistic but it will prove fact. I think starting with a larger panal would have been better, let the panal cut its self naturally first and then you have your core 30 to drive on with for the rest of the season. Just my take on it..

Or maybe he will break the mould develop a really close knit squad for a change and people wont walk away, injuries barring serious ones can be fixed, but if he sets the tone and get the boys to fully then it will be a place people want to get into rather than out of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: riddle_me_this on December 12, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: riddle_me_this on December 12, 2012, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 12, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Is refreshing actually to hear that a door is closed, I have become increasingly fed up with these managers with their open ended panels, begging at player's doors to come out and play. That is not the way to gain commitment. All the sound bites are right now lets just hope he can mould them into a team that we can get behind and be proud of. For starters if he gets them training and fully committed I for one will be proud and there to support them, regardless of results.

I think we all agree in principle with what KR is trying to do but i think in reality things will be very different. If the door is firmly closed then i think we will see Antrim carrying a panal of about 18 players by June.  There is only 30 players on this panal at present and if the past is anything to go by then there will be 4-5 drop off by Feb-March time and with a few injuries here and there, exam commitments etc you are down to training sessions of 10-12 people again. I know that sounds pessimistic but it will prove fact. I think starting with a larger panal would have been better, let the panal cut its self naturally first and then you have your core 30 to drive on with for the rest of the season. Just my take on it..

Or maybe he will break the mould develop a really close knit squad for a change and people wont walk away, injuries barring serious ones can be fixed, but if he sets the tone and get the boys to fully then it will be a place people want to get into rather than out of.

Lets hope you are right. Im not blasting his approach just a little sceptical of how it might work in reality..
Really hope it goes well this year. Not expecting any huge strides but if we put the foundations in place to turn the corner and start going in the righ direction again that would be a start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
I think you both make good points - and we all agree the way forward is on knuckling down to let the lads settle on the squad and want to be part of it.
I think some of the drop outs in the past had been becasue off too big a panel so players dont feel part of the shake up and think 'why bother'.

Either way as I say if KR gets one united motivated group them something will be acheived regardless of results (which were not exactly good regardless of personnel involved).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 12, 2012, 01:03:07 PM
Am not being down on that squad before we start.  But I think we could be in bother this year.   Anyone fancy picking our 1st team?   Missing two out of the full back line from last year!!   Does AG fall back into edge of square?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
SG - I dont dispute that we could struggle to get results - but maybe we have got to accept that is our level.
As said, one committed cohesive squad might achieve more or at least as well as a mis-matched squad with our so called superstars.
After all its not like we've been setting the world alight anyway.
So lets try and at least do things the right way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 12, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
No ones door is ever closed for good and with the greatest intentions I doubt KR will be open at some stage. To say a door is closed permanently just leaves people wide open for ridicule when they do open it so why say it in the first place. Some people will never learn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 12, 2012, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: manballandall on December 12, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
No ones door is ever closed for good and with the greatest intentions I doubt KR will be open at some stage. To say a door is closed permanently just leaves people wide open for ridicule when they do open it so why say it in the first place. Some people will never learn.

It's a sticky one for Ryan especially with the Loughgeil lads still involved in the club championship.

If he can get the 30 odd panel training away all through the winter and build a bit of team spirit, with results maybe not so good, then he'd come under pressure to 'welcome' back lads who previously hadn't given the commitment for the slog in the winter months but are happy to come back when the hour goes back.
Any team spirit would be quickly eroded if he started to drop (maybe lesser hurlers) to start the lads arriving later on in the year and before you know it he's got a dozen or so at training.
The Loughgeil lads complicate this as IMO he'd be well within his rights to invite some onto the panel in March (or Feb  ;)  ) as they're hurling away, but would be used as an excuse by others in the 'how come so and so got invited back on and they didn't do the winter training either?' rationale.

Ryan should show some loyalty to those hurling and training over the winter months throughout the year and set a precedent where arriving late on the scene won't wash anymore. He'd benefit from it the year after.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
And therefore punishing the successful club players for being successful. Hardly a perfect scenario, but I'll wish him all the best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on December 12, 2012, 08:05:28 PM
Aye Loughgiel should withdraw from the All- Ireland competition and get behind the county, would that solve any problems ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2012, 08:19:17 PM
It would solve a big problem for a certain st Thomas of Galway that's for sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 12, 2012, 11:25:40 PM
In fairness I don't think johnny was referring to the shamrock boys and you might see that if you take off your red and white tinted glasses .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2012, 05:51:12 AM
Quote from: manballandall on December 12, 2012, 11:25:40 PM
In fairness I don't think johnny was referring to the shamrock boys and you might see that if you take off your red and white tinted glasses .
In fairness, I wasn't referring to the shamrocks, I was referring to any team who makes it through to the ai semi. That's why I used the term "successful club players". perhaps showing a little anti shamrock bias there manballandall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 13, 2012, 08:39:08 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
And therefore punishing the successful club players for being successful. Hardly a perfect scenario, but I'll wish him all the best.

You've obviously read the part where I said he'd be well within his rights to make exceptions for them and invite them into the panel after their club campaign ends?

How would this be punishing successful club players?

The point I was trying to make is that he needs all the players to understand than swanning back to training in springtime and get handed a jersey won't work any more. He's got to break that mentality.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2012, 09:52:05 AM
The way I read it was you were referring to clubs still in competition. I take you mean players in general coming and going when they feel like it. It wasn't made clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 13, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2012, 09:52:05 AM
The way I read it was you were referring to clubs still in competition. I take you mean players in general coming and going when they feel like it. It wasn't made clear.

In a ham fisted way, I was suggesting that other players may see the Loughgeil players joining later and asking, why not them. I was trying to make that distinction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
Ah, ok. good point.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 13, 2012, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 13, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2012, 09:52:05 AM
The way I read it was you were referring to clubs still in competition. I take you mean players in general coming and going when they feel like it. It wasn't made clear.

In a ham fisted way, I was suggesting that other players may see the Loughgeil players joining later and asking, why not them. I was trying to make that distinction.

Any player that would need to ask such a question would need to have a look at themselves. Every chance it would happen though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
Gregory O'Kane confirmed as new Manager of Rasharkin Senior Hurling Team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
nice one! all the best to him with it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 13, 2012, 01:22:22 PM
Quote from: Rasharkin Gael on December 13, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
Gregory O'Kane confirmed as new Manager of Rasharkin Senior Hurling Team.
Thats some coup for yous...must have high ambitions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on December 14, 2012, 01:07:53 PM
Been outta the country for work over the past while but heard about what happenend at the Ulster Writers awards via a mate on Tuesday night.

Crazy scenario with two of our current 'stars' thinking they had found Liam Watsons award for being named on the jubilee team and smashing it to try and get a reaction from him.  From what I hear, Liam had already laid his award by for safe keeping and the two eejits were left red faced as they were told that they had destroyed someone elses award.

LW would of been well within his rights to have started a row over this but let it pass given the occasion.

People wonder why we don't get commitment from our club players?!

I'll probably get some stick about dragging up something that happenend away from the field and after a few drinks etc. etc.  But if this had of been LW involved then he would of been openly slated so don't see why others get away with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 14, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
You're 100% correct with your final statement. It would have been a field day on here.

It was Gregory O'Kane's award they smashed, he could have made an incident of it but showed some class in not doing so. they smashed it after slabbering about Loughgiel and the people in it. Classy stuff.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 14, 2012, 09:31:28 PM
f**king delighted someone has said that.   I didn't want to be on here saying it.   110% true.    Nag and his mates would do some talking if it was other way around
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
What club ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 14, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
Well people have said it was shane so that would mean cushendall club? Unless its a different shane?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 14, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 14, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
Let me get this straight. At least one of our current county players smashed up an award they believed to belong to Winker in an attempt to start a row with him? Add to the fact that he couldn't even get that right and ended up smashing Gregory O'Kane's award by mistake.

Is this true?
yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 14, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
180!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 14, 2012, 11:35:01 PM
That's maybe a bit far.   Drink in wit out and all that.   My main issue is.   If our boy done such an act.   It would be just complete mayhem       But thats me with my red tinted glasses on am sure!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 15, 2012, 12:42:11 AM
Pretty embarrassing stuff for those who carried that out.....very unGAA like if you ask me....has it taught them nothing other the sport itself? First I heard of that was here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on December 15, 2012, 02:56:33 AM
Hardstation. If you do much digging a well known club mate of yours would of been in the company of LW when this kicked off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 15, 2012, 08:34:01 AM
Sleeping giant - on this occasion no amount of tinted glasses could portray this as anything other than what it is so you're 100 percent correct on this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
1st for everything.    Haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2012, 08:15:07 PM
The internet must be down over the mountain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 17, 2012, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 14, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 14, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
Let me get this straight. At least one of our current county players smashed up an award they believed to belong to Winker in an attempt to start a row with him? Add to the fact that he couldn't even get that right and ended up smashing Gregory O'Kane's award by mistake.

Is this true?
yes.

Was this misguided high jinx of pure malice?

Either way it doesn't reflect well on those involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 17, 2012, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 14, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 14, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
Let me get this straight. At least one of our current county players smashed up an award they believed to belong to Winker in an attempt to start a row with him? Add to the fact that he couldn't even get that right and ended up smashing Gregory O'Kane's award by mistake.

Is this true?
yes.

Was this misguided high jinx of pure malice?

Either way it doesn't reflect well on those involved.
very much the latter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2012, 11:52:22 PM
I heard about all this after it happended but I didn't want to go into it as it doesn't deserve mentioning in hurling terms.
Drink, lack of wit and stupidity. Never a good mixture!!
Still Santas coming in less than a week now!!! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 18, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
Any white smoke from Cushendall yet ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 18, 2012, 08:40:55 PM
How did the sessions go with the ex Kilkenny hurlers over the weekend? What have the numbers been like at the sessions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 19, 2012, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 18, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
Any white smoke from Cushendall yet ?

No point defending the indefensible unlike what some people do on here time and time again.

Merry Christmas all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on December 20, 2012, 03:54:46 PM
St Thomas v Loughgiel confirmed for Parnell Park.

4pm

9th February 2013

See ya's there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 20, 2012, 05:23:20 PM
Shamrocks definitely the happier with Parnell!
4pm not a bit of a late start?
Mr2 might need Monday off as well!
I'll be there - supporting loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 20, 2012, 09:54:53 PM
They'e showing the two semis live on tg4, one after the other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2012, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 20, 2012, 05:23:20 PM
Shamrocks definitely the happier with Parnell!
4pm not a bit of a late start?
Mr2 might need Monday off as well!
I'll be there - supporting loughgiel.

I'll be down, Harcourt hotel possibly!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on December 25, 2012, 07:50:16 AM
Merry Xmas evryone.  Enjoy your day.  (some advice for next xmas if you have "Santa" children dont drink on xmas eve!) :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Big match in Armoy the morra. ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Big match in Armoy the morra. ;-)

Is Clute playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Big match in Armoy the morra. ;-)

Is Clute playing?
I hear he was asked but had "other commitments".  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 28, 2012, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Big match in Armoy the morra. ;-)

Is Clute playing?
I hear he was asked but had "other commitments".  :o
What time is it throwing in fella?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 01:44:46 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 28, 2012, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Big match in Armoy the morra. ;-)

Is Clute playing?
I hear he was asked but had "other commitments".  :o
What time is it throwing in fella?
12pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 28, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
More silverware in the bag for the Shamrocks in 2012 as they were awarded Media Night Feed of the Year by Brendan Crossan in today's Irish News!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
Loughgiel beat Antrim by a point. played 3x25 minute periods. played our second 15 the last 25 minutes. Good run out.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
2-12 to 3-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
2-12 to 3-08

Turgid affair?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
2-12 to 3-08

Turgid affair?  ::)
nope, both teams scored more than 9 points.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
2-12 to 3-08

Turgid affair?  ::)
nope, both teams scored more than 9 points.  ;)

Nope, only one team scored more than 9 points, but managed to tack on 3 goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 30, 2012, 01:41:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 29, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: 3leafer on December 29, 2012, 03:08:52 PM
Was this a high scoring encounter? Antrim versus Loughguile
2-12 to 3-08

Turgid affair?  ::)
nope, both teams scored more than 9 points.  ;)

Nope, only one team scored more than 9 points, but managed to tack on 3 goals.
8 points plus 3 goals is 17 points on anybody's scoreboard. No matter how twisted one is. Eh Mr2?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 30, 2012, 01:15:49 PM
I'd say Louighgiel will have tougher games lined up than that to come?

Dublin/Wexford maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 31, 2012, 11:38:59 PM
Happy ewe rear!! ;).  Up the shamrocks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 02, 2013, 01:08:17 PM
think they play UCD, wexford and offaly and dublin? not sure of them all but its along them lines.

happy new year to you all by the way!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 03, 2013, 04:50:07 PM
Dcu, ucd, dublin, offaly and wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 04, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Just read the Donal O'Grady article on the Hurling forum and it just further highlights to me the major factor in the lack of development in Antrim Hurling is not in the direct control of the clubs but in the education system.

Most clubs are now very good, provide excellent facilities and opportunities but the schooling system and especially third level is awful.  3 secondary schools in Ulster take hurling seriously, CBS, Maghera and (only recently) C&P, compare hurling for Queens or UUJ to the football teams, the technical colleges are a joke.

It seems in Kilkenny the schools are appreciated as being the equal of clubs and the competitions are valued.  Waterfords recent underage success has largely been attributed to the De La Salle school while the Dublin combined schools experienced success before the minors

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 04, 2013, 12:00:25 PM
Secondary schools isn't really even the main problem as we have two very good schools, one in the south and one in the north of the county. Other secondary schools who wouldn't have the numbers or attract players from the traditional clubs also do some great work, such as St Malachys on the Antrim Road.

I feel you are right though in pointing out the education system, the first article produced by O'Grady highlighted the importance of coaching in the primary schools and this is were we fall down massively, if we could improve this area we would improve greatly.

O'Grady pointed out how there is rewards for those coaches and they are all invited to an annual dinner etc in Kilkenny.

How many coaches do we have in primary schools and are they carrying out a good job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 04, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Just read the Donal O'Grady article on the Hurling forum and it just further highlights to me the major factor in the lack of development in Antrim Hurling is not in the direct control of the clubs but in the education system.

Most clubs are now very good, provide excellent facilities and opportunities but the schooling system and especially third level is awful.  3 secondary schools in Ulster take hurling seriously, CBS, Maghera and (only recently) C&P, compare hurling for Queens or UUJ to the football teams, the technical colleges are a joke.

It seems in Kilkenny the schools are appreciated as being the equal of clubs and the competitions are valued.  Waterfords recent underage success has largely been attributed to the De La Salle school while the Dublin combined schools experienced success before the minors
When you say only these 3 schools "take hurling seriously" what do you mean? I would say Garron Tower and Cross & Passion have been taking it seriously for years now.

You also have to wonder to what end the success of St Pats Maghera apart from glory for the school. It isnt as if the success transfers into senior county level for them. Big gap there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 04, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Just read the Donal O'Grady article on the Hurling forum and it just further highlights to me the major factor in the lack of development in Antrim Hurling is not in the direct control of the clubs but in the education system.

Most clubs are now very good, provide excellent facilities and opportunities but the schooling system and especially third level is awful.  3 secondary schools in Ulster take hurling seriously, CBS, Maghera and (only recently) C&P, compare hurling for Queens or UUJ to the football teams, the technical colleges are a joke.

It seems in Kilkenny the schools are appreciated as being the equal of clubs and the competitions are valued.  Waterfords recent underage success has largely been attributed to the De La Salle school while the Dublin combined schools experienced success before the minors
When you say only these 3 schools "take hurling seriously" what do you mean? I would say Garron Tower and Cross & Passion have been taking it seriously for years now.

You also have to wonder to what end the success of St Pats Maghera apart from glory for the school. It isnt as if the success transfers into senior county level for them. Big gap there.

You'd have to say St Pats Maghera success in the 90's led to their intercounty good fortune later on when they lifted a few Ulster titles, but Derry county boards attitude to hurling seems to be atrocious coming from the stories I hear from lads who hurl in Derry.
The successes of Derry hurling seem to be in spite of the county board and reliant on individuals fighting for hurling within their clubs and schools.
Even though he's a gobshíte, you got to admire the work of Da Hinphey, Tom Magill, and the few others hammering away at hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 04, 2013, 12:52:45 PM
Quote from: maxpower on January 04, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Just read the Donal O'Grady article on the Hurling forum and it just further highlights to me the major factor in the lack of development in Antrim Hurling is not in the direct control of the clubs but in the education system.

Most clubs are now very good, provide excellent facilities and opportunities but the schooling system and especially third level is awful.  3 secondary schools in Ulster take hurling seriously, CBS, Maghera and (only recently) C&P, compare hurling for Queens or UUJ to the football teams, the technical colleges are a joke.

It seems in Kilkenny the schools are appreciated as being the equal of clubs and the competitions are valued.  Waterfords recent underage success has largely been attributed to the De La Salle school while the Dublin combined schools experienced success before the minors

I think if all schools had the pick of St Pats Maghera they would all take it seriously. Just because a school is not winning Mageeans every year does not mean it doesent take it seriously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Assuming the county board has no say in school curricula  ;) whose agenda was pushed here as I assume the parents would have wanted hurling played?

What schools are represented in the Ulster Colleges Combined Squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 04, 2013, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Assuming the county board has no say in school curricula  ;) whose agenda was pushed here as I assume the parents would have wanted hurling played?

What schools are represented in the Ulster Colleges Combined Squad?

Schools after school sport is mainly down to the interests of the teachers, they are giving up their time, mainly for no extra reward. So if you get a PE teacher who has an interest in Basketball, Soccer, Badminton you name it then the likelihood is that the school will follow that route.
This is where the development officers are supposed to be providing the link between local clubs to the schools to help get people into them to help out with the teams and create a strong GAA element within the schools. This is clearly not happening. Cant blame the schools for everything with restricted budgets etc, we are the GAA if we want GAA promoted in schools then we have to do our bit to do so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 04, 2013, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Assuming the county board has no say in school curricula  ;) whose agenda was pushed here as I assume the parents would have wanted hurling played?

What schools are represented in the Ulster Colleges Combined Squad?

Schools after school sport is mainly down to the interests of the teachers, they are giving up their time, mainly for no extra reward. So if you get a PE teacher who has an interest in Basketball, Soccer, Badminton you name it then the likelihood is that the school will follow that route.
This is where the development officers are supposed to be providing the link between local clubs to the schools to help get people into them to help out with the teams and create a strong GAA element within the schools. This is clearly not happening. Cant blame the schools for everything with restricted budgets etc, we are the GAA if we want GAA promoted in schools then we have to do our bit to do so.
I think it is fair to say that most serious sports schools only employ like-minded PE teachers. It is no coincidence that grammar schools are heavily staffed by ex-county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Assuming the county board has no say in school curricula  ;) whose agenda was pushed here as I assume the parents would have wanted hurling played?

What schools are represented in the Ulster Colleges Combined Squad?

I suppose back then there was no competition within the county, so we'd have had to enter into some Belfast schools competition or the other which would possibly have been easier and cheaper to enter than trapse across on a ferry boat to Castlewellan, Kilkeel, Downpatrick, Warrenpoint and the likes for football games.
The PE teacher's main sport was gaelic football although he was heavily involved in his local hurling clubs senior team at the time.

I  think the Down combined colleges team consists of everyone not playing for St Pats Knock, of an age I'm not sure about.

The wing managed them so I'd expect it was a county board led project rather than anything driven from within the schools and colleges involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 04, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
i went to school in ballymena and basketball was treated better than hurling was. football was a bloody joke! we had fellas from dunloy and loughgiel in the team and were decent players, all who played senior county and won antrim championships yet nothing was done to help or promote the game.

i mind having to beg teachers to allow me to play for the school lol

I think I played two hurling games for my school the whole time I was there and it had the pick of the three ards clubs as well as a couple of handy hurlers from Kilclief.

We'd play far more gaelic football even though only one lad played club football.
Assuming the county board has no say in school curricula  ;) whose agenda was pushed here as I assume the parents would have wanted hurling played?

What schools are represented in the Ulster Colleges Combined Squad?

I suppose back then there was no competition within the county, so we'd have had to enter into some Belfast schools competition or the other which would possibly have been easier and cheaper to enter than trapse across on a ferry boat to Castlewellan, Kilkeel, Downpatrick, Warrenpoint and the likes for football games.
The PE teacher's main sport was gaelic football although he was heavily involved in his local hurling clubs senior team at the time.

I  think the Down combined colleges team consists of everyone not playing for St Pats Knock, of an age I'm not sure about.

The wing managed them so I'd expect it was a county board led project rather than anything driven from within the schools and colleges involved.
I meant this new Ulster Colleges Combined Squad to play in the All-Ireland Colleges A competition rather than the usual O'Keefe Cup. I read yesterday that Sean McGourty was managing them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 04, 2013, 05:14:19 PM
Conversations should be taking place between county boards and schools on a regular basis. The argument needs to be made that they have a sizeable number of hurlers and/or footballers attending that school and that as much as it is important(ish) to give kids a chance to play other sports, there should be a proper strategy within the school which helps develop those pupils in the disciplines that they are committed to outside of school (i.e GAA sports). Clubs have developed these youngsters to a fairly decent level but from what I see (and from past experience), schools (bar the exceptions mentioned) at best simply utilise the talent that is there rather than play any serious role in developing that talent. It would be great to see schools in the Ballymena Coleraine and Antrim areas in particular play a much stronger role in kids physical and technical development. Progress is being made as there are coaches coming into schools but I don't see much strategy being promoted so that we all can see what is being done and what is needed over and above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 04, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
Johhneycool, how do you think wee Dinger will do with us this year? I think he took Glenravel last year and they were pretty impressed with him, mind you the problem was they just didn't give a fcuk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 04, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Yeeeeehooooooo.   Welcome back nag  ;DNet down over there as past while?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 04, 2013, 05:14:19 PM
Conversations should be taking place between county boards and schools on a regular basis. The argument needs to be made that they have a sizeable number of hurlers and/or footballers attending that school and that as much as it is important(ish) to give kids a chance to play other sports, there should be a proper strategy within the school which helps develop those pupils in the disciplines that they are committed to outside of school (i.e GAA sports). Clubs have developed these youngsters to a fairly decent level but from what I see (and from past experience), schools (bar the exceptions mentioned) at best simply utilise the talent that is there rather than play any serious role in developing that talent. It would be great to see schools in the Ballymena Coleraine and Antrim areas in particular play a much stronger role in kids physical and technical development. Progress is being made as there are coaches coming into schools but I don't see much strategy being promoted so that we all can see what is being done and what is needed over and above.
St. Louis in Ballymena must pick up some reasonable players but they never seem to make the breakthrough. They have always had decent soccer teams and I know are investing significantly in handball in the school.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Looking back to primary school days we had the Christian Brothers looking after us in regards of training and playing Gaelic games. Now depending on what Christian Brothers school you went to and who taught in that school decided on the code you were best at.

We had a great Brother (Our club president) who looked after the football side of things, was relentless and was basically my first introduction into Gaelic Games, the hurling side of things was picked up by the local club, Davitts, which to their credit was great, they used their club minibus to run us to the pitches and coached us also.

Primary schools don't have the time, staff or even the local club to help them out. If we could engage the kids at the P4 age up then we would have the interest and numbers joining the local clubs.

As for secondary schools, if we didn't in my old school have a Johnnies man looking after our team we wouldn't have had any hurling. We were very competitive and managed a few Ulster schools finals over the years.

Money should be thrown at the primary schools first, work from the ground up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 04, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Saw that Ulster Colleges (2 14) beat Dublin Colleges (1 13) in a challenge today. Seems promising????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 05, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
Wouldn't read too much into that result cloot. The fullness of time will see how the colleges side perform against fuller opposition.

Lads it sounds good in theory but shifting the "blame" on to schools is way off the mark. Some points;

- we lose focus on hurling straight away at primary schools so take second level out of the equation straight away. It's long gone by the time youngsters arrive there.

- in the south "community" schools have a sporting (hurling) role to play in the community. Time & resources are allocated. This is simply not the case here - teachers are stuck in schooling beurocracy and are openly discouraged from pushing sport & hurling. Again - time & resources. 

- clubs tried to fill this void by going into schools but child protection and the fact that club coaches may be working during school hours prevents this so often. Not to mention over protective & health safety parents. Faced with this schools hands are tied.

- so can the county & ulster colleges & cummann na bunscoileanna help? Again there is simple not the resources there. Either in terms of money or existing equipment. And for what it's worth the standard of coaching put into schools by paid officials in this county is a downright disgrace.

- also schools hurling in ulster suffers across all facets by being treated as a 2nd class sport at best. Ulster colleges only interest is mccrory cup - lip service is paid to hurling.

So faced with all this lads I feel it is lazy or ill-informed to suggest the crux of the problem lies in schools. A complete sea change in infrastructure and legalities and resources would need to occur for schools to be a meaningful force for hurling development in this part of the world.

One side note - I hope this post is not taken the wrong way by the many dedicated people who put tireless hours into hurling in schools for no reward whatsoever. They fight the good fight against all odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on January 05, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
yeah primary school vital

it comes as no surprise that St Pats maghera and CBS are around 3 times the size of C P and the Garron tower

another big problem is numbers in school of male staff, its a female dominated industry

was talking to a teacher in one of the above schools overs new year there and he claimed time is becoming harder and harder to get lads out of class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 05, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 04, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
Johhneycool, how do you think wee Dinger will do with us this year? I think he took Glenravel last year and they were pretty impressed with him, mind you the problem was they just didn't give a fcuk.

ding can be a thran wee bollox but he's a schrewd enough operator . Heard the other night he was taking  you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 05, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 05, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 04, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
Johhneycool, how do you think wee Dinger will do with us this year? I think he took Glenravel last year and they were pretty impressed with him, mind you the problem was they just didn't give a fcuk.

ding can be a thran wee bollox but he's a schrewd enough operator . Heard the other night he was taking  you.

Someone from outside the club is what we need I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 04, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Yeeeeehooooooo.   Welcome back nag  ;DNet down over there as past while?

Net was grand what's up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 06, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 05, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 04, 2013, 05:48:17 PM
Johhneycool, how do you think wee Dinger will do with us this year? I think he took Glenravel last year and they were pretty impressed with him, mind you the problem was they just didn't give a fcuk.

ding can be a thran wee bollox but he's a schrewd enough operator . Heard the other night he was taking  you.

He played the game at a high level but can he coach?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 06, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
Is ding the lad that played corner forward for ballygalget & down?

Anybody know when league fixtures are published? If not for sure then when it normally occurs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 06, 2013, 08:38:17 PM
That's him. Good lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 06, 2013, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 04, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
Yeeeeehooooooo.   Welcome back nag  ;DNet down over there as past while?

Net was grand what's up?
nothings up.   Just hadn't heard from you since a certain incident few weeks back.  Thought the net was maybe playing up ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 06, 2013, 11:43:06 PM
I assume he works or lives in north antrim somewhere?

County guestbook informs us championship draws at the end of the month - I won't hold my breath on league fixtures?

Not that the shamrock will care much at this stage!
How are preparations going lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 07, 2013, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 06, 2013, 11:43:06 PM
I assume he works or lives in north antrim somewhere?

He's been living up in Martinstown for a few years now.

Not sure of his coaching credentials other than his years with glenravel, he had them down with us playing a friendly a few years ago at the start of his tenure.

Don't think he coached much with us, but he was still playing up until he moved back up the country.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 08, 2013, 01:00:03 PM
Ulster league fixtures

Division 1A 
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A
Position Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Points
1 Glenariff Ossians 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 Naomh Gall 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 Ballygalget 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 Ballinascreen 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 Cuchullains-Dunloy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 Ballycran 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Competition Name Round Time Venue Team 1 Score  Team 2 Score Referee
Date: Saturday 2nd Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 1 2 00 PM Ballinascreen Naomh Gall  --- v  Ballinascreen  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 1 2 00 PM Ballycran Ballycran  --- v  Ballygalget  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 1 2 00 PM Glenariffe Glenariff Ossians  --- v  Cuchullains-Dunloy  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 9th Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 2 2 00 PM Ballygalget Ballygalget  --- v  Ballinascreen  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 2 2 00 PM Naomh Gall Naomh Gall  --- v  Glenariff Ossians  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 2 2 00 PM Dunloy Cuchullains-Dunloy  --- v  Ballycran  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 16th Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 3 2 00 PM Glenariffe Glenariff Ossians  --- v  Ballinascreen  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 3 2 00 PM Ballygalget Ballygalget  --- v  Cuchullains-Dunloy  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 3 2 00 PM Ballycran Ballycran  --- v  Naomh Gall  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 2nd Mar 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 4 2 00 PM Ballinascreen Cuchullains-Dunloy  --- v  Ballinascreen  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 4 2 00 PM Naomh Gall Naomh Gall  --- v  Ballygalget  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 4 2 00 PM Glenariffe Glenariff Ossians  --- v  Ballycran  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 6th Apr 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 5 2 00 PM Ballycran Ballycran  --- v  Ballinascreen  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 5 2 00 PM Ballygalget Ballygalget  --- v  Glenariff Ossians  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1A Round 5 2 00 PM Dunloy Cuchullains-Dunloy  --- v  Naomh Gall  --- TBC

Division 1B 
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B
Position Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Points
1 St John's GAC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 Slaughtneil 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 Lamh Dhearg 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4 Ruairí Óg 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 St.Patricks, Portaferry 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Competition Name Round Time Venue Team 1 Score  Team 2 Score Referee
Date: Saturday 2nd Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 1 2 00 PM Slaughtneil GAC Slaughtneil  --- v  St.Patricks, Portaferry  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 1 2 00 PM Rurai Og Cushendall Ruairí Óg  --- v  Lamh Dhearg  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 9th Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 2 2 00 PM Corrigan Park St John's GAC  --- v  Ruairí Óg  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 2 2 00 PM Lamh Dhearg Lamh Dhearg  --- v  Slaughtneil  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 16th Feb 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 3 2 00 PM Portaferry St.Patricks, Portaferry  --- v  Lamh Dhearg  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 3 2 00 PM Slaughtneil GAC Slaughtneil  --- v  St John's GAC  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 2nd Mar 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 4 2 00 PM Rurai Og Cushendall Ruairí Óg  --- v  Slaughtneil  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 4 2 00 PM Corrigan Park St John's GAC  --- v  St.Patricks, Portaferry  --- TBC
Date: Saturday 6th Apr 2013
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 5 2 00 PM Lamh Dhearg Lamh Dhearg  --- v  St John's GAC  --- TBC
Táin Club Hurling League 2013 Div 1B Round 5 2 00 PM Portaferry St.Patricks, Portaferry  --- v  Ruairí Óg  --- TBC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2013, 01:03:03 PM
Thanks DR.
Some Antrim club's not entering or in Division2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 08, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Kind draw for us, the furthest we'll travel is up to milltown row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Kind draw for us, the furthest we'll travel is up to milltown row.

I'll be waiting  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 08, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
You refereeing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 08, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
You refereeing?
I'll have me gear ready, sure didn't end up playing 3 of these games last year FFS!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2013, 08:52:56 AM
i understand loughgiel not entering but why not ballycastle?

we dont have too much travelling in our group, down to ballygalget and glenariff. not too bad.

usefull games these, gets guys out and alot of younger lads a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 09, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Kind draw for us, the furthest we'll travel is up to milltown row.

I'll be waiting  :o

hope you'll have those showers turned on as the last time I was up for a game they weren't.

Young CJ took exception to me horsing into him the odd time as he sweeped gracefully in front of his fullback line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 09, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Kind draw for us, the furthest we'll travel is up to milltown row.

I'll be waiting  :o

hope you'll have those showers turned on as the last time I was up for a game they weren't.

Young CJ took exception to me horsing into him the odd time as he sweeped gracefully in front of his fullback line.

I can't be sure if the showers are working but will try and get some sarnies sorted out afterwards.

I used to get to the changing rooms early so I could brush out the away room and clean up all the shite left behind from the other team. Was/is embarrassing at times, but then I had to go down to the pitch and put the bloody nets ups also, I'm fecking 5'6 Could just about reach crossbar with stepladder ffs.

To do that before you pick the team is ridiculous!! Refereeing is actually less hassle :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2013, 10:43:55 AM
Think of the big wages the galls pay u MR2!

Commitment like that is generally only acknowledged when its gone - sad but true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 09, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 09, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2013, 03:49:29 PM
Kind draw for us, the furthest we'll travel is up to milltown row.

I'll be waiting  :o

hope you'll have those showers turned on as the last time I was up for a game they weren't.

Young CJ took exception to me horsing into him the odd time as he sweeped gracefully in front of his fullback line.

I can't be sure if the showers are working but will try and get some sarnies sorted out afterwards.

I used to get to the changing rooms early so I could brush out the away room and clean up all the shite left behind from the other team. Was/is embarrassing at times, but then I had to go down to the pitch and put the bloody nets ups also, I'm fecking 5'6 Could just about reach crossbar with stepladder ffs.

To do that before you pick the team is ridiculous!! Refereeing is actually less hassle :o
And all for a tenner a week....st galls' loss i can tell ye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
we won our first warm up game last night against DCU 4-17 to 0-09. excellent performance. Joey and winker didn't play.

down to Dublin next weekend. ucd and Dublin await.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 10, 2013, 08:55:25 AM
Dublin should be a good game for use. i mind going dow to ashbourne to see us play them. cracking game which was well contested.
the dublin development teams are always good opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
we won our first warm up game last night against DCU 4-17 to 0-09. excellent performance. Joey and winker didn't play.

down to Dublin next weekend. ucd and Dublin await.

There'll be some red biddy burned in the coming weeks with all that travelling  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2013, 08:30:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 10, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
we won our first warm up game last night against DCU 4-17 to 0-09. excellent performance. Joey and winker didn't play.

down to Dublin next weekend. ucd and Dublin await.

There'll be some red biddy burned in the coming weeks with all that travelling  :D
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 11, 2013, 06:06:07 PM
MR2 maybe Galls could have right go at the ulster league before the football starts? Genuine chance of making final and could lift hurling for the season ahead?

HS are Rossa playing ulster league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 11, 2013, 07:29:23 PM
St Galls have new manager on board too....the younger model getting the nod over the old boy in the selection process it seems. A good thing ? Only time will tell. Either way im sure all the boys will pull behind the new management including the old boys siblings ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 11, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
A bit cryptic manballandall but thanks!
The old boy can only mean one thing (?) and if so I wouldn't hold out much hope for his offspring!

Hopefully the new manager succeeds in pushing a real effort for the while season.
Am I being naieve to think a succesful ulster league could be a meaningful start here? By the time antrim leagues start galls could be looking forward to a winnable semi and a meaningful silverware.?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 12, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
Oliver bellew is the new manager, a good club man who only has the clubs best interests at heart. I've no doubt all those players who feel the same will be behind him, the rest, well who cares, not real club men in my opinion. The boys haven't started yet and a meeting is being arranged for next week so I doubt the boys would be fit enough to win the ulster league. I know some of the boys are out treading the roads and in the pool quite a bit so they will be flying and as always the rest will give their best. Hopeful of a good season ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2013, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 12, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
Oliver bellew is the new manager, a good club man who only has the clubs best interests at heart. I've no doubt all those players who feel the same will be behind him, the rest, well who cares, not real club men in my opinion. The boys haven't started yet and a meeting is being arranged for next week so I doubt the boys would be fit enough to win the ulster league. I know some of the boys are out treading the roads and in the pool quite a bit so they will be flying and as always the rest will give their best. Hopeful of a good season ahead.

I know I've been flat out!! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 12, 2013, 01:38:07 PM
I hadn't heard;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
drew against ucd today. the new white shirts got a run out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: manballandall on January 12, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
Oliver bellew is the new manager, a good club man who only has the clubs best interests at heart. I've no doubt all those players who feel the same will be behind him, the rest, well who cares, not real club men in my opinion. The boys haven't started yet and a meeting is being arranged for next week so I doubt the boys would be fit enough to win the ulster league. I know some of the boys are out treading the roads and in the pool quite a bit so they will be flying and as always the rest will give their best. Hopeful of a good season ahead.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 13, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.

To be pedantic, SIE, I think it was 3-13 to 3-10. And whats the story with the Derry shorts?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 13, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.

To be pedantic, SIE, I think it was 3-13 to 3-10. And whats the story with the Derry shorts?????
I stand corrected. must've missed 2 minutes somewhere.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 13, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.

To be pedantic, SIE, I think it was 3-13 to 3-10. And whats the story with the Derry shorts?????
I stand corrected. must've missed 2 minutes somewhere.  ;)

UCD must be some team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 05:10:52 PM
Wexford and offaly next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2013, 09:27:56 AM
Just wondering what people thoughts are on the county captain coming from the county champions tradition?

Personally I am in favour of the best man for the job regardless of his club - but I am also an old sofite for GAA traditions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 14, 2013, 09:38:54 AM
I agree the best man for the job should be captain. We've seen the situation in a few other counties where the captain is picked from the county champions and ends up on the bench. Good luck to Neil, Eddie and the Antrim team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2013, 09:41:40 AM
Yeah should be best man for the job especially with a limited panel, need every advantage going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 14, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
No big odds who's captain.  Long as they try and play as a TEAM!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on January 15, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.

Delighted for him. A real team player and a good sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 15, 2013, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on January 15, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Loughgiel 3-12 Dublin 3-09. great performance against a strong Dublin team.

On another note, Neil McManus Antrim captain with Eddie mccloskey vice captain.

Delighted for him. A real team player and a good sport.

Sarcasm Pdiddy?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2013, 04:11:36 PM
Just well directed congratulations to the vice captain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 17, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Antrim team v Carlow

17 January 2013
The Antrim team to play Carlow in the Walsh Cup this Sunday is:


1 Ryan Mc Garry   Ryan Mag Fhearaigh   Mac Uilin
2 Michael Gettens   Micheal Mag Eiteagain   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
3 Conor Carson   Conchúr Mac Corsain   Ruairi Og
4 Barry McFall   Barra Mac Pháil Naomh Eoin
5 Kevin Mc Kiernan   Caoimhin Mac Ciarain   Padraig Sairseil
6 Conor Mc Kinley   Conchur Mac Fhionnlaoich Cú Chullain
7 Kevin Mc Keague   Caoimhin Mac Thaidhg   Cú Chullain
8 Ciarnan Rea   Ciarnan O Riabhaigh Padraig Sairseil
9 Simon Mc Crory   Siomon Mac Ruairi   Naomh Eoin
10 Stephen Beaty   Stiofan Mac Biataigh   Ui Donnabhain Rosa
11 Neil Mc Manus (Capt)Néill Mac Mánais   Ruairi Og
12 K B Mc Shane   Caoimhin Barra Mac Sean Mac Uilin
13 Dessie Mc Clean   Deasún Mac Giolla Eain   Gortnamona
14 Paddy Doherty   Padraig o Dochartaigh   Cú Chullain
15 Shane Mc Naughton   Seán Mac Neachtain   Ruairi Og
16 Seanan Mc Toal   Seanan O Tuathail   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17 Mathew Donnelly   Maitiú O Donnaile Mac Uilin
18 Conor Mc Cann   Conchur Mac Canna   Gortnamona
19 Conal Morgan   Conall O Muireagáin   Naomh Eoin
20 Conor Laverty   Conchúr Ó Laibheartaigh Naomh Brid
21 Colm McFall   Colm Mac Pháil   Naomh Eoin
22 Niall Peoples   Niall O Duibhne   Naomh Pol
23 Paul Shiels   Pól Ó Siail    Cú Chullain
24 James O Mullan Seamus O Maolain   Ros Earcáin

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
As with all these teams at the start, bit of a head scratcher!! Hope they do well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on January 17, 2013, 11:18:24 PM
Experimental team, hope the senior side do well this year.

My honest opinion?  With personnel listed, we will be further away than ever before.  We are a full generation of players away from competing at the top level again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 17, 2013, 11:50:06 PM
It's a week enough team IMO.  And that's no harm intended to one lad on it!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 18, 2013, 12:06:47 AM
Worried seeing that team. I will cling to the hope it's merely a case of early days and we canvass he lads. If it a true reflection we might be in for a long year. But chin up be positive lets hope it's just a beginning and looking ahead. Ahem!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:12:41 AM
Full back line would be just a tiny bit worrying  :o   Neil and Shane out of that team and its piss poor to be honest.  Where's graffin or Carl Stewart.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 18, 2013, 12:24:56 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:12:41 AM
Full back line would be just a tiny bit worrying  :o   Neil and Shane out of that team and its piss poor to be honest.  Where's graffin or Carl Stewart.   

Piss poor...strong words.

While you have a bit of strength and depth for a club side take Winker and Eddie out of the forward line...

A bit of fecking optimism (and reality) wouldn't go amiss round here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:28:11 AM
Take two of the best players out of any club team and where are they??   It's like Shane or Neil for the dall.    It's the other lads that chip in that makes club hurling as much as the stars!!   But that won't cut it at county level.    Time will tell.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:35:09 AM
Optimism and reality???   How can you have both fella? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 18, 2013, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:35:09 AM
Optimism and reality???   How can you have both fella? :o

Reality - well, that's about the best team that we have that have committed to the cause and are available . . .

Optimism - well, they might do a bit better than everybody expects  . . . .

Easy, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 18, 2013, 09:44:32 AM
Ok Ok - lets leave it until after Sunday to make a call on that team.
Much the same line of thought we will probably have to wait until after the league to make a judgment on how the Ryan regime is progressing.
Lets be realistic and optimisitc!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
Well sorry for being realistic about that team selection.    Hope to be proved wrong!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 18, 2013, 01:01:35 PM
i personally think its decent enough team. theres lots of new lads on there and its time to get them in there and game slike this are where they can get a go.

the lgiel lads added to it will strengthen it but hey lets be realistic, even with them we wont be winning a leinster title or national league!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2013, 05:44:47 PM
There's a few young city lads there.  Am excited to see how they get on.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 18, 2013, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 17, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Antrim team v Carlow

17 January 2013
The Antrim team to play Carlow in the Walsh Cup this Sunday is:


1 Ryan Mc Garry   Ryan Mag Fhearaigh   Mac Uilin
2 Michael Gettens   Micheal Mag Eiteagain   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
3 Conor Carson   Conchúr Mac Corsain   Ruairi Og
4 Barry McFall   Barra Mac Pháil Naomh Eoin
5 Kevin Mc Kiernan   Caoimhin Mac Ciarain   Padraig Sairseil
6 Conor Mc Kinley   Conchur Mac Fhionnlaoich Cú Chullain
7 Kevin Mc Keague   Caoimhin Mac Thaidhg   Cú Chullain
8 Ciarnan Rea   Ciarnan O Riabhaigh Padraig Sairseil
9 Simon Mc Crory   Siomon Mac Ruairi   Naomh Eoin
10 Stephen Beaty   Stiofan Mac Biataigh   Ui Donnabhain Rosa
11 Neil Mc Manus (Capt)Néill Mac Mánais   Ruairi Og
12 K B Mc Shane   Caoimhin Barra Mac Sean Mac Uilin
13 Dessie Mc Clean   Deasún Mac Giolla Eain   Gortnamona
14 Paddy Doherty   Padraig o Dochartaigh   Cú Chullain
15 Shane Mc Naughton   Seán Mac Neachtain   Ruairi Og
16 Seanan Mc Toal   Seanan O Tuathail   Oisin, Gleann Airbh
17 Mathew Donnelly   Maitiú O Donnaile Mac Uilin
18 Conor Mc Cann   Conchur Mac Canna   Gortnamona
19 Conal Morgan   Conall O Muireagáin   Naomh Eoin
20 Conor Laverty   Conchúr Ó Laibheartaigh Naomh Brid
21 Colm McFall   Colm Mac Pháil   Naomh Eoin
22 Niall Peoples   Niall O Duibhne   Naomh Pol
23 Paul Shiels   Pól Ó Siail    Cú Chullain
24 James O Mullan Seamus O Maolain   Ros Earcáin


are there a few names on this panel that were not on the origional one. if so is the closed panel thing no longer?? just think if this is the case then where and when does it end as at the time it was a very sterne statement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 19, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
Where would your optimism take you SG with Antrims finest 15 lining out?

Dreams of a leinster title perhaps or AI semi final place maybe?

What are we capable of with "the right team"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
I honestly believe that with the best 15 out we could get to at least a Leinster semi final this year.  Galway being real about the thing would be a bridge to far. And sure if they got through a round of qualifiers they would be looking at a shot at 1/4 final.  Antrims attitude of last year was the worst I've seen or heard of ever!!!  School yard bullshit!!!    IMO we have alot of talented players all over the pitch.Pity they couldn't all get together and pull for one another. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 19, 2013, 05:53:05 PM
It was Loughgiel's fault SG. Sure, did ya not know that?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 03:15:27 AM
I hope they do well. I also hope shorty starts. if they can't see that, time to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 20, 2013, 08:40:41 AM
I don't know who else Kevin Ryan was supposed to pick. The Loughgiel lads aren't available and Graffin, Neil Mc Auley and Darren Hamill are away. If you had Graffin & Mc Auley in the backs it would look a lot more solid and Eddie Mc Cluskey in a forward line along with Mc Manus and Shane Mc Naughton you'd have 3 absolute top quality forwards as well. Karl Stewart to come back as well & Shorty is a certain starter come the national league and championship. We'll not be far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on January 20, 2013, 09:08:12 AM
Naomh gall struggles to get its best players to play for the club never mind the county. This is the best team that ryan could pick from the players that made themselves available and showed an interest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
Carlow are a big physical team and with the weather as bad as it is this could turn out to be a low scoring battle. Bookies favouring Carlow for this and based on the team Antrim have that's justified. So a two point win for Carlow me thinks.

Carlow nearly turned us over in Casement one year, albeit the referee tried to fcuk us over everytime he put the whistle in his mouth!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 12:28:38 PM
I hope these fellas go out and hurl for their lives and actually pass the ball to other. can't win It by yourself no matter how good you are. I think they'll be beat by 4 or 5. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 20, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
2nd half carlow up by 1-15 to 0-06,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 03:48:32 PM
ft. 1-17 to 0-10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2013, 04:43:32 PM
How'd the younger lads do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
It's loughgiels fault.  Sorry!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
well, they did out score them in the 25 minute period they played other a couple of weeks ago. just saying.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
It's loughgiels fault.  Sorry!!
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 20, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 03:15:27 AM
I hope they do well. I also hope shorty starts. if they can't see that, time to move on.
How did your challenge games go this week with Offaly and Wexford?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
well, they did out score them in the 25 minute period they played other a couple of weeks ago. just saying.  ;)

Seriously?? are we really going to discuss this again?

Would UCD then, in your opinion be better (or did you play the reserves again) than Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2013, 11:39:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
well, they did out score them in the 25 minute period they played other a couple of weeks ago. just saying.  ;)

Seriously?? are we really going to discuss this again?

Would UCD then, in your opinion be better (or did you play the reserves again) than Loughgiel?


Can we please skip all this nonsense again. Please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballycastle17 on January 21, 2013, 12:17:44 AM
http://www.colerainefc.com/beta/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1946:clarke-departs&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=38
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 21, 2013, 12:27:31 AM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 21, 2013, 12:17:44 AM
http://www.colerainefc.com/beta/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1946:clarke-departs&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=38

Great news. I have a good feeling Ballycastle will make a good account of themselves this year. By all accounts their pretty determined to be back at the top again. To big to be gone too long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 21, 2013, 05:50:39 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 20, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 03:15:27 AM
I hope they do well. I also hope shorty starts. if they can't see that, time to move on.
How did your challenge games go this week with Offaly and Wexford?
they're being played next weekend. offaly beat k/k 2-18 to 1-10 yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 21, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
well, they did out score them in the 25 minute period they played other a couple of weeks ago. just saying.  ;)

Seriously?? are we really going to discuss this again?

Would UCD then, in your opinion be better (or did you play the reserves again) than Loughgiel?
second half was the reserves, yes.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2013, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 21, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 20, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 20, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
We should just put out Loughgiel reserves for Antrim
well, they did out score them in the 25 minute period they played other a couple of weeks ago. just saying.  ;)

Seriously?? are we really going to discuss this again?

Would UCD then, in your opinion be better (or did you play the reserves again) than Loughgiel?
second half was the reserves, yes.  ;)

Seeing UCD beat Laois at weekend then that would make sense about your reserves being better than Antrim's current senior team ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: qubdub on January 21, 2013, 02:12:39 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on January 21, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 21, 2013, 12:27:31 AM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 21, 2013, 12:17:44 AM
http://www.colerainefc.com/beta/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1946:clarke-departs&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=38

Great news. I have a good feeling Ballycastle will make a good account of themselves this year. By all accounts their pretty determined to be back at the top again. To big to be gone too long.
What fantastic news for McQuillans and Antrim. Ciaran Clarke is the best juvenile forward Antrim has produced in years and will be a tremendous asset to club and county, if he can get back to full fitness. An exceptional talent who was instrumental in the CPC winning 2 AI College titles. Great pace and skill and deadly from a placed ball. Just what Kevin Ryan ordered I'd say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 22, 2013, 08:08:18 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 21, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 21, 2013, 12:27:31 AM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 21, 2013, 12:17:44 AM
http://www.colerainefc.com/beta/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1946:clarke-departs&catid=2:latest-news&Itemid=38

Great news. I have a good feeling Ballycastle will make a good account of themselves this year. By all accounts their pretty determined to be back at the top again. To big to be gone too long.
What fantastic news for McQuillans and Antrim. Ciaran Clarke is the best juvenile forward Antrim has produced in years and will be a tremendous asset to club and county, if he can get back to full fitness. An exceptional talent who was instrumental in the CPC winning 2 AI College titles. Great pace and skill and deadly from a placed ball. Just what Kevin Ryan ordered I'd say!

Why not let the lad hurl for Ballycastle first and prove his 'potential' then when he has done that look to add him to future county squads. There is a massive difference in playing juvenille through to minor U21 and Senior ball. Not everyone makes that transition so give the lad a bit of time to play some hurling again before we pin everything to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2013, 11:28:22 AM
Anyone got any idea when the master fixtures or even full list will be released?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 23, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
Good luck BallyBredagh and any others from Bredagh on here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21165133

Maybe could do with staying away from the bars on the Ormeau Road...!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 24, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
Thanks Glensman  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 24, 2013, 10:08:33 AM
was that taken up at the dub?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 24, 2013, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 24, 2013, 10:08:33 AM
was that taken up at the dub?

Is that a St Johns man up coaching them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 24, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?

Too slow to play  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:42:52 AM
MR2 and manballandall might recall his in a different blue and white jersey also!
And the merry-go-round continue with a different club for coaching - not on his own I suppose but still.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 24, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?

Is it the Jimmy Darragh influence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 24, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?

Too slow to play  ;)

Well that's a bit unfair.......... :o 

It's difficult when you are on a team and some young boyo comes in and is breathing down your neck for the position you are playing in. Had it myself and was raging FFS but you adopt and try and play some part in the team, others just stop playing, think that is a loss to the team in fairness.

Chris is a good lad, played along side him for years at Naomh Gall, has been coaching a bit and took the Johnnies also, loves his hurling and is a decent trainer also, not sure if he is the manager there though, the news report had someone else taking the managers role.

Bredagh are a decent team and have some very good skillful hurlers, played against them a right few times and refereed them a couple of times, Bredagh doing great work and this would be the icing on the cake for the hurlers of the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 24, 2013, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 24, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?

Too slow to play  ;)

Well that's a bit unfair.......... :o 

It's difficult when you are on a team and some young boyo comes in and is breathing down your neck for the position you are playing in. Had it myself and was raging FFS but you adopt and try and play some part in the team, others just stop playing, think that is a loss to the team in fairness.

Chris is a good lad, played along side him for years at Naomh Gall, has been coaching a bit and took the Johnnies also, loves his hurling and is a decent trainer also, not sure if he is the manager there though, the news report had someone else taking the managers role.

Bredagh are a decent team and have some very good skillful hurlers, played against them a right few times and refereed them a couple of times, Bredagh doing great work and this would be the icing on the cake for the hurlers of the club

Eamon Mulvenna is their manager.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:52:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 24, 2013, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 24, 2013, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 24, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
Another of a stream of players who "retired" at a young age to go into coaching - one wonders why?

Too slow to play  ;)

Well that's a bit unfair.......... :o 

It's difficult when you are on a team and some young boyo comes in and is breathing down your neck for the position you are playing in. Had it myself and was raging FFS but you adopt and try and play some part in the team, others just stop playing, think that is a loss to the team in fairness.

Chris is a good lad, played along side him for years at Naomh Gall, has been coaching a bit and took the Johnnies also, loves his hurling and is a decent trainer also, not sure if he is the manager there though, the news report had someone else taking the managers role.

Bredagh are a decent team and have some very good skillful hurlers, played against them a right few times and refereed them a couple of times, Bredagh doing great work and this would be the icing on the cake for the hurlers of the club

Eamon Mulvenna is their manager.

Thought that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 24, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on January 24, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
Thanks Glensman  :)

How could I forget you?!

You think you're in with a good chance? Any word on what Fullen Gaels are like? Assume they must have a wide catchment based in the North with punters from Liverpool/Manchester etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 24, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on January 24, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
Thanks Glensman  :)

How could I forget you?!

You think you're in with a good chance? Any word on what Fullen Gaels are like? Assume they must have a wide catchment based in the North with punters from Liverpool/Manchester etc?

Aye was wondering that also, they have a decent crowd to pull from, Bredagh are decent enough had an up and down season in the league a lot of close games. I'd say it's a 50/50 game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 24, 2013, 09:11:14 PM
I wouldn't disagree with that MR. It's all on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Ryan Mcgarry
A.Graffin
C.Carson
B.McFall
S.McCrory
N.McAuley
P.Shields
M.Donnelly
S.McNaughton
P.Doherty
S.Beattie
K.McKernan
C.McFall
N.McManus
Team to play laois
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Ryan Mcgarry
A.Graffin
C.Carson
B.McFall
S.McCrory
N.McAuley
P.Shields
M.Donnelly
S.McNaughton
P.Doherty
S.Beatti
K.McKernan
C.McFall
N.McManus
Team to play laois
C.Mckinley wing half back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 24, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Ryan Mcgarry
A.Graffin
C.Carson
B.McFall
S.McCrory
N.McAuley
P.Shields
M.Donnelly
S.McNaughton
P.Doherty
S.Beatti
K.McKernan
C.McFall
N.McManus
Team to play laois
C.Mckinley wing half back

M Donnelly Antrim's new Ollie Baker?

Hoping we get a win.

Any word of Hippy coming back or is that a dead duck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 24, 2013, 11:27:13 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 24, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Ryan Mcgarry
A.Graffin
C.Carson
B.McFall
S.McCrory
N.McAuley
P.Shields
M.Donnelly
S.McNaughton
P.Doherty
S.Beatti
K.McKernan
C.McFall
N.McManus
Team to play laois
C.Mckinley wing half back

M Donnelly Antrim's new Ollie Baker?

Hoping we get a win.

Any word of Hippy coming back or is that a dead duck.
No he's not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2013, 12:14:42 AM
Given that fullen Gaels are in north east England (hardly a hurling stronghold) and breadagh are one of the only clubs in south belfast / north down - would it not be fair to say that breadagh have a bigger catchment!

The bookies seem to agree anyway with breadagh 8/15 favs.

Stronger looking antrim team altho I think these games are glorified challenge games - meaningless.
Too many of them on the fixture list - does any team just get beaten and be put out anymore?
There seems to be an endless stream of backdoors and play-offs!
Then we complain about burnout!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2013, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2013, 12:14:42 AM
Given that fullen Gaels are in north east England (hardly a hurling stronghold) and breadagh are one of the only clubs in south belfast / north down - would it not be fair to say that breadagh have a bigger catchment!

The bookies seem to agree anyway with breadagh 8/15 favs.

Stronger looking antrim team altho I think these games are glorified challenge games - meaningless.
Too many of them on the fixture list - does any team just get beaten and be put out anymore?
There seems to be an endless stream of backdoors and play-offs!
Then we complain about burnout!
A stronger looking team on paper certainly, UCD beat Laois last week which was expected. NMcM will hardly be playing in the corner so he'll be out picking up ball around midfield HF lines. An experimental enough back line but they are all experienced enough to hurl well so that gives me some comfort.

These are far better than challenge games in my opinion, near on impossible to get motivated for a challenge game

the Bredagh game is a 50/50 match regardless of what the bookies say, we've no idea who is on the team and what ex county players could be playing for Fullen Gaels. The Brit champions used to play in the Intermediate championship so a drop down could be unfair. The Brit champs won it before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
And let's not forget that the brit champs beat the county Antrim senior champs one year. They're never to be underestimated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2013, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
And let's not forget that the brit champs beat the county Antrim senior champs one year. They're never to be underestimated.

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2013, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2013, 12:14:42 AM
Given that fullen Gaels are in north east England (hardly a hurling stronghold) and breadagh are one of the only clubs in south belfast / north down - would it not be fair to say that breadagh have a bigger catchment!

The bookies seem to agree anyway with breadagh 8/15 favs.

Stronger looking antrim team altho I think these games are glorified challenge games - meaningless.
Too many of them on the fixture list - does any team just get beaten and be put out anymore?
There seems to be an endless stream of backdoors and play-offs!
Then we complain about burnout!

Bredagh have a massive catchment, they will be a massive force in years to come. But they shouldnt be in this competition, as one of their players said today in Irish News " we went from intermediate to senior to junior" . They should have been in the intermediate competition but good luck to them, Fullen Gaels to win by 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
And let's not forget that the brit champs beat the county Antrim senior champs one year. They're never to be underestimated.

Forgive my ignorance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 26, 2013, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
And let's not forget that the brit champs beat the county Antrim senior champs one year. They're never to be underestimated.

Forgive my ignorance?

Cushendall beaten by St Gabriel's, around 1991 I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Learn something new every day!
Didn't know that and I can't even say I was too young to remember!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2013, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Learn something new every day!
Didn't know that and I can't even say I was too young to remember!

Seriously?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 09:54:43 PM
Very good HS!
Anything happening at Rossa hurlers?

And less of that MR2!
Maybe my memory is going with age!
Is Bellew up and running?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2013, 09:45:30 PM
I am too young to remember it but I heard a story about it a couple of years ago.

Apparently, shortly after that happened, there was a bit of banter between Ballycastle and Cushendall ones one night and the Cushendall folk were giving the Town lads a bit of stick about "letting the Orangemen walk through yer toon". A Ballycastle man replied, "Aye but the Brits ne'er beat us on the hurling field".

Thought it was a goodun.

Sure the Brits are current All Ireland senior champions :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 27, 2013, 12:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2013, 09:45:30 PM
I am too young to remember it but I heard a story about it a couple of years ago.

Apparently, shortly after that happened, there was a bit of banter between Ballycastle and Cushendall ones one night and the Cushendall folk were giving the Town lads a bit of stick about "letting the Orangemen walk through yer toon". A Ballycastle man replied, "Aye but the Brits ne'er beat us on the hurling field".

Thought it was a goodun.

Sure the Brits are current All Ireland senior champions :o
and don't forget it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 27, 2013, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 26, 2013, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2013, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
And let's not forget that the brit champs beat the county Antrim senior champs one year. They're never to be underestimated.

Forgive my ignorance?

Cushendall beaten by St Gabriel's, around 1991 I think.
it was Desmonds in '92. Now a defunct club. They merged with Glen rovers to form Kilburn Gaels.

They've had some decent players in their ranks.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on January 27, 2013, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2013, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2013, 12:14:42 AM
Given that fullen Gaels are in north east England (hardly a hurling stronghold) and breadagh are one of the only clubs in south belfast / north down - would it not be fair to say that breadagh have a bigger catchment!

The bookies seem to agree anyway with breadagh 8/15 favs.

Stronger looking antrim team altho I think these games are glorified challenge games - meaningless.
Too many of them on the fixture list - does any team just get beaten and be put out anymore?
There seems to be an endless stream of backdoors and play-offs!
Then we complain about burnout!

Bredagh have a massive catchment, they will be a massive force in years to come. But they shouldnt be in this competition, as one of their players said today in Irish News " we went from intermediate to senior to junior" . They should have been in the intermediate competition but good luck to them, Fullen Gaels to win by 2 points
a massive catchment they may have but a force dont see it,they played senior a couple years ago and were absoultely  out of there depth have e few good players young mcmullan and the hughes but hard ta see it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 02:44:34 PM
Bredagh 1-4 1-12 Fullen Gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Yes and St. Gabriel's won their football semi.

At the rate the economy is going it is hardly surprising.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 27, 2013, 03:14:45 PM
Antrim were 11-6 down, they now lead 12-11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 27, 2013, 04:04:02 PM
Won by a point after ET. Good response after last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 27, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
Good to get the first win of the season today, stuck at it well by all reports. Well done all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
That's a fantastic result 
Winning away from casement while blooding new players.
No doubt a happier camp this weekend than over the last year or so!
Lets hope we stay in the up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 27, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Yes and St. Gabriel's won their football semi.

At the rate the economy is going it is hardly surprising.
I thought fullen would win, but not by that margin. They beat burt at this stage last year, who would be stronger than bredagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 27, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Yes and St. Gabriel's won their football semi.

At the rate the economy is going it is hardly surprising.
I thought fullen would win, but not by that margin. They beat burt at this stage last year, who would be stronger than bredagh

I wouldn't say that Burt would be stronger, similar but not stronger. This would be based on having played against them both recently (2 years)

Unlucky Bredagh, not a great return but thems the breaks!!

Thought Antrim would win but btdtgtt I wouldn't say they were blooding a lot of players, did you see the team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
Actually yes just looked over it - my mistake.

I suppose add the shamrocks in and that's the bulk of what would be considered our strongest by some observers.

Still a good result away from home however.

It won't be a smooth ride and there will be set backs but hopefully higher standards set to keep us in good place to build.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 27, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 27, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Yes and St. Gabriel's won their football semi.

At the rate the economy is going it is hardly surprising.
I thought fullen would win, but not by that margin. They beat burt at this stage last year, who would be stronger than bredagh
few Belfast men on that team.  Manchester I think there based in.      Knocker and maskey from St. John I believe used to play for them.  Not sure if they still do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 27, 2013, 08:55:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 27, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on January 27, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
is that a result?
Yes and St. Gabriel's won their football semi.

At the rate the economy is going it is hardly surprising.
I thought fullen would win, but not by that margin. They beat burt at this stage last year, who would be stronger than bredagh

I wouldn't say that Burt would be stronger, similar but not stronger. This would be based on having played against them both recently (2 years)

Unlucky Bredagh, not a great return but thems the breaks!!

Thought Antrim would win but btdtgtt I wouldn't say they were blooding a lot of players, did you see the team?

Same as. Played burt 3 times last year and bredagh once. Very similar but burt just that wee bit better imo and would be a very seasoned team. Anyhow opinions differ and it won't matter a damn to bredagh tonight who I know we're very confident of winning today and will be dejected big-time. But they will be a force in years to come
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Yeah I was also confident of them winning.

A clubman of mine is also at Bredagh doing a lot of work also (his kid plays for them) and they also do really well at the tournaments. As said already they have a big catchment. They just need to raise the standard at senior level and push on so that the real good juveniles can become a force at senior level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 27, 2013, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 27, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
They still do. Conall Maskey captains them I think.
remember both them lads in a very good St. John's minor team.   Both handy hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Yeah I was also confident of them winning.

A clubman of mine is also at Bredagh doing a lot of work also (his kid plays for them) and they also do really well at the tournaments. As said already they have a big catchment. They just need to raise the standard at senior level and push on so that the real good juveniles can become a force at senior level
A club in the middle of Tokyo would have a wide catchment but what percentage of the population in that area are interested or able to strip out? Teams like that are dealing in generations to make inroads not years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2013, 09:51:36 PM
I personally don't believe breadagh will be "a force" anytime soon.

Always have a fair contingent of guys who reside in the area for work - not grown up with the club.
Also guys for "whatever reason" see breadagh as a more pragmatic club than their own.
Add that to those juveniles from the area who will fly the best which I believe is greater than in other clubs.

I suppose it depends on what we define as "a force".

That said - I genuinely would love to see them progress and become "a force".
A strong gaa presence in the ormeau / ravenhill area would be great to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2013, 11:49:55 PM
All true - I hope I wasn't too negative on breadagh future but it's just the impression I get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatsthescore on January 28, 2013, 12:03:17 AM
can anyone shed light on the fixtures for the coming antrim leagues, start date etc. thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 28, 2013, 12:18:11 AM
Quote from: whatsthescore on January 28, 2013, 12:03:17 AM
can anyone shed light on the fixtures for the coming antrim leagues, start date etc. thanks.

+1
I have been asking around but nobody seems to know its back to secret service antrim.

Championship draws 25 February   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Yes tradition rather than any comment on talent. Tough in all parishes to keep young lads together. Big clear outs to Australia up and down the glens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 28, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Yes tradition rather than any comment on talent. Tough in all parishes to keep young lads together. Big clear outs to Australia up and down the glens.

And beyond. We've lost a good few to emigration in the last few years and Ballycran have been badly hit as well. Ports seem to be holding onto theirs better but I always knew they were mammies boys  ;)


Bredagh and Carryduff are doing good stuff at underage hurling in Down, and if they kept that up for a few years they'd start to rise up through the Antrim leagues for sure, but the big ball is certainly proving a distraction in Carryduff as they were able to field two minor football teams last year, yet not one hurling one and they'd won the Down minor championship the previous year.

Not sure if Bredagh are equally distracted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 28, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 28, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Yes tradition rather than any comment on talent. Tough in all parishes to keep young lads together. Big clear outs to Australia up and down the glens.

And beyond. We've lost a good few to emigration in the last few years and Ballycran have been badly hit as well. Ports seem to be holding onto theirs better but I always knew they were mammies boys  ;)
Nice of you to post that on the Antrim board not the Down one![/b]

Bredagh and Carryduff are doing good stuff at underage hurling in Down, and if they kept that up for a few years they'd start to rise up through the Antrim leagues for sure, but the big ball is certainly proving a distraction in Carryduff as they were able to field two minor football teams last year, yet not one hurling one and they'd won the Down minor championship the previous year.
Thats an incredible stat - from champions to not fielding. Unbelievable.

Not sure if Bredagh are equally distracted.

Have Ballygalget got going this year?
Optimistic at staying up? Is that the target?

WOuld be interesting of it ended in a dog-fight with Glenarrife!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2013, 10:27:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 28, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 28, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Yes tradition rather than any comment on talent. Tough in all parishes to keep young lads together. Big clear outs to Australia up and down the glens.

And beyond. We've lost a good few to emigration in the last few years and Ballycran have been badly hit as well. Ports seem to be holding onto theirs better but I always knew they were mammies boys  ;)
Nice of you to post that on the Antrim board not the Down one![/b]

Bredagh and Carryduff are doing good stuff at underage hurling in Down, and if they kept that up for a few years they'd start to rise up through the Antrim leagues for sure, but the big ball is certainly proving a distraction in Carryduff as they were able to field two minor football teams last year, yet not one hurling one and they'd won the Down minor championship the previous year.
Thats an incredible stat - from champions to not fielding. Unbelievable.

Not sure if Bredagh are equally distracted.

Have Ballygalget got going this year?
Optimistic at staying up? Is that the target?

WOuld be interesting of it ended in a dog-fight with Glenarrife!

So you are confident that Rossa will be safe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 28, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
SIE

What about the games at the weekend how did you's get on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 28, 2013, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 28, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 28, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 28, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on January 27, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Tough lesson for our lads today. Fullen Gaels were much stronger and better on the day and our boys underperformed. Aidan (17), Conor (16), Lorcan (18), Niall I (19) Donal (21), Cormac (22) all finished the match and we had Paddy, Eoghan and Stevie (all 24) playing too with Ian not much older. All home-grown lads and with the other talent we have coming through, a brighter time is ahead, i hope. Fullen Gaels were a step too far today and good luck to them in the final.

The worst day to underperform FFS!! They'll do well enough in future, maybe Tony is talking about tradition which is a fair comment, but I know clubs have to start somewhere and Bredagh will keep it going
Yes tradition rather than any comment on talent. Tough in all parishes to keep young lads together. Big clear outs to Australia up and down the glens.

And beyond. We've lost a good few to emigration in the last few years and Ballycran have been badly hit as well. Ports seem to be holding onto theirs better but I always knew they were mammies boys  ;)
Nice of you to post that on the Antrim board not the Down one![/b]

Bredagh and Carryduff are doing good stuff at underage hurling in Down, and if they kept that up for a few years they'd start to rise up through the Antrim leagues for sure, but the big ball is certainly proving a distraction in Carryduff as they were able to field two minor football teams last year, yet not one hurling one and they'd won the Down minor championship the previous year.
Thats an incredible stat - from champions to not fielding. Unbelievable.

Not sure if Bredagh are equally distracted.

Have Ballygalget got going this year?
Optimistic at staying up? Is that the target?

WOuld be interesting of it ended in a dog-fight with Glenarrife!

We haven't got a manager in place as yet, but the lads are training away.

If we stay up it'd be a good year as we're going to have to blood a good few minors again who possibly are a bit short at that level as yet.

I'd expect us to struggle for another few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Just seen a picture of Fullen Gaels there- big strong team, looked like a proper senior grade team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 30, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Just seen a picture of Fullen Gaels there- big strong team, looked like a proper senior grade team
They were big lads alright and they could hurl as well.

What sort of team will Antrim be putting out tomorrow? I was thinking of taking a run over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 31, 2013, 12:12:19 AM
Just seen the team.  Decent line out.    Few lads that will still have to prove me wrong.   But good luck to them.   MR2. Is the best hurler in ulster injured? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 31, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
I see accoirding to the county website the draft fixtures should be out soon.
You Shamrocks and MR2 are really going to have to call a truce!
How is the atmosphere up there? Much different to last year?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 31, 2013, 12:12:19 AM
Just seen the team.  Decent line out.    Few lads that will still have to prove me wrong.   But good luck to them.   MR2. Is the best hurler in ulster injured? ;)

I'm fit and well, just havent been asked  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 31, 2013, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on January 30, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Just seen a picture of Fullen Gaels there- big strong team, looked like a proper senior grade team
They were big lads alright and they could hurl as well.

What sort of team will Antrim be putting out tomorrow? I was thinking of taking a run over.

The Antrim team V DIT in tomorrow night's Walsh Shield final is:

1 Ryan McGarry

2 Arron Graffin
3 Conor Carson
4 Barry McFaul

5 Simon McCrory
6 Neal McCauley
7 Conor McKinley

8 Conor Laverty
9 Matthew Donnelly

10 Paul Shiels
11 Paddy Doherty
12 Stephen Beetie (Should this not be Beatty??)

13 Neal McManus
14 Kevin B McShane
15 Shane McNaughton

16 Seanan McToal

17 Conal Morgan
18 Kevin McKeague
19 Michael Gettens
20 Darren Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 31, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 31, 2013, 12:12:19 AM
Just seen the team.  Decent line out.    Few lads that will still have to prove me wrong.   But good luck to them.   MR2. Is the best hurler in ulster injured? ;)

I'm fit and well, just havent been asked  :o
haha.  Good man.   All joking aside,  what's up with KS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 31, 2013, 12:44:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 31, 2013, 09:13:11 AM
I see accoirding to the county website the draft fixtures should be out soon.
You Shamrocks and MR2 are really going to have to call a truce!
How is the atmosphere up there? Much different to last year?
. RARING TO GO.  BELIEVE  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 31, 2013, 09:52:25 PM
Handy enough for Antrim. What was wrong with Donnelly that he had to go off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 01, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Any of the UL matches going ahead at the weekend, serious rain this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 01, 2013, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on January 31, 2013, 09:52:25 PM
Handy enough for Antrim. What was wrong with Donnelly that he had to go off?

Looked like his shoulder but he came on again. They played well but DIT very lethargic. Big Carson man of the match, mc Garry did well in goals and Mc manus is flying. Kevin Barry looks like a prospect to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2013, 08:57:48 AM
I hear a wee rumour that a certain southerner has informed a certain club that he might be requiring a few more of their players in the not so distant future. The door is most certainly not firmly shut.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 02, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
I am not surprised he needs them SiE and I don't thing anyone would deny that.

However what surprises me is that he put himself in this "door shut" position which necessitates the climb down.
He will now have to manage that within the current players.
I dare say he won't be dropping and cushendall boys off the panel for shamrocks!

Anyone know if hippy might also come back on board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 02, 2013, 12:08:39 PM
Hopefully he'll return. We need everyone on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 04, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Both county managers have been granted no club league fixtures 17days before championship.

17 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SPEECHLESS !!!!!!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2013, 08:50:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 04, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Both county managers have been granted no club league fixtures 17days before championship.

17 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SPEECHLESS !!!!!!!!

I presume the clubs agreed to this,, strange decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 05, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 04, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Both county managers have been granted no club league fixtures 17days before championship.

17 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SPEECHLESS !!!!!!!!

your sure about this i cant see any info on antrimgaa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
I heard it yesterday talking to a North Antrim man.
I just do not understand or comprehend it - I cannot fathom how anyone could believe this to be worthwile for the county set-up itself - and much less for the vast majority of our member is the club scene.
Its just bonkers. Madness. Insane. And you know what? Its a disgrace.

I am hoping he read 7 days and not 17! If so I withdraw my comments fully. No harm done.

I note the interview with Liam Watson also - just a few points;

Bitterness? A bit rich given he is not blameless here.
County career? I would imagine he should be focussed on Loughiel - he should never have been conducting an interview regarding Antrim in the run up to a club game of such importance.
Will he won't he play? I think this shows Liam's tendency to focus on him "I have nothing to prove etc" A bit of humility would go afar, there's guys who are a class above him that do not be so focussed on themselves.

But then this is Liam - he is who he is - take it or leave it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 05, 2013, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 05, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
I heard it yesterday talking to a North Antrim man.
I just do not understand or comprehend it - I cannot fathom how anyone could believe this to be worthwile for the county set-up itself - and much less for the vast majority of our member is the club scene.
Its just bonkers. Madness. Insane. And you know what? Its a disgrace.

I am hoping he read 7 days and not 17! If so I withdraw my comments fully. No harm done.

I note the interview with Liam Watson also - just a few points;

Bitterness? A bit rich given he is not blameless here.
County career? I would imagine he should be focussed on Loughiel - he should never have been conducting an interview regarding Antrim in the run up to a club game of such importance.
Will he won't he play? I think this shows Liam's tendency to focus on him "I have nothing to prove etc" A bit of humility would go afar, there's guys who are a class above him that do not be so focussed on themselves.

But then this is Liam - he is who he is - take it or leave it.

no point in going mad on this till its official, they gotta mean 7 days surely but this has happened it the past.

as for the player you mentioned quoting in the Irish news, sure what would you expect. I think its time there was an unwritten rule on here not to discuss him as that what he craves. I'm not a shrink but there is a saying that sums him up >Theres a want in him
dribble about club bitterness bla bla bla. you should see what he tweeted about dunloy(not that i follow him some LG poster put it up here) after the the county final. then he wants all us to get on. so don't mind him Hopefully there will be more pre semi interviews with LG players everyone respects
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2013, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 05, 2013, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 05, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
I heard it yesterday talking to a North Antrim man.
I just do not understand or comprehend it - I cannot fathom how anyone could believe this to be worthwile for the county set-up itself - and much less for the vast majority of our member is the club scene.
Its just bonkers. Madness. Insane. And you know what? Its a disgrace.

I am hoping he read 7 days and not 17! If so I withdraw my comments fully. No harm done.

I note the interview with Liam Watson also - just a few points;

Bitterness? A bit rich given he is not blameless here.
County career? I would imagine he should be focussed on Loughiel - he should never have been conducting an interview regarding Antrim in the run up to a club game of such importance.
Will he won't he play? I think this shows Liam's tendency to focus on him "I have nothing to prove etc" A bit of humility would go afar, there's guys who are a class above him that do not be so focussed on themselves.

But then this is Liam - he is who he is - take it or leave it.

no point in going mad on this till its official, they gotta mean 7 days surely but this has happened it the past.
Yes very much so - I just hope he was wrong and its 7days. Like I say withdrawn if it is.
as for the player you mentioned quoting in the Irish news, sure what would you expect. I think its time there was an unwritten rule on here not to discuss him as that what he craves. I'm not a shrink but there is a saying that sums him up >Theres a want in him
dribble about club bitterness bla bla bla. you should see what he tweeted about dunloy(not that i follow him some LG poster put it up here) after the the county final. then he wants all us to get on. so don't mind him Hopefully there will be more pre semi interviews with LG players everyone respects
Agreed.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2013, 03:20:19 PM
Well nearly the big day, I've heard nothing of late from our boys in LG on preps for the game at the weekend, I've also heard nowt and seen nowt from Galway on St Thomas's. To be a dry day and dry enough leading up to the game, so conditions shouldn't play a major part in the game. A 50/50 match in my opinion with LG coming out 2/3 points winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2013, 04:55:28 PM
I have to say I couldn't get my head round the talking about Antrim a week before a club semi.   But sure,    He never told any lies.      Hopefully pitch is in good shape and our lads hurl like they left of last march.   Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 05, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
hard to believe the semi finals nearly here.  Weather absolutely shite, hope it doesn't spoil the contest.  the fact that this is thee most prestigious club event in the calendar and to have it played in this weather makes you wonder.  Even holding off to start of March.  It does seem that little bit earlier this year.

I'd say shams are ready, hear even experience timing of lights etc in Casement. 

tough one to call i reckon, couple of points to either side no real surprise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2013, 05:16:16 PM
AICHSF's have always been on the second weekend in Feb as far as I can recall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2013, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 05, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
hard to believe the semi finals nearly here.  Weather absolutely shite, hope it doesn't spoil the contest.  the fact that this is thee most prestigious club event in the calendar and to have it played in this weather makes you wonder.  Even holding off to start of March.  It does seem that little bit earlier this year.

I'd say shams are ready, hear even experience timing of lights etc in Casement. 

tough one to call i reckon, couple of points to either side no real surprise

Couldn't agree more!
It's the dis-respect shown to the majority of gaa people as club members and the so-called core unit of the club.
Sacrificed for rte and glamour day out £$£.

Run the county season off quicker and allow more calendar time to club hurling.
Leave the dark winter to rest and recuperate.

From Lar Corbett;
"Every field in Ireland is nearly unplayable - they're calling off race meetings but hurling matches? Play away," the Tipperary star is quoted as saying in The Irish Examiner.
"You have humans calling off animals but humans are saying to humans, play away! You wouldn't put a horse out in it!"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
Agh, man up and get on with it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 07, 2013, 06:26:21 PM
Its probably too 'windy' for Lar at this time of year  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
In fairness to hurler of his calibre I think he has shown he can man up and play in all conditions - otherwise he would never have reached the standard he has.

The point remains tho - the county season is too long and takes too much time off the nuts and bolts of the GAA - clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2013, 08:06:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
In fairness to hurler of his calibre I think he has shown he can man up and play in all conditions - otherwise he would never have reached the standard he has.

The point remains tho - the county season is too long and takes too much time off the nuts and bolts of the GAA - clubs!

btdtgtt, I would have an issue with the county season BUT ONLY in the summer months due to the subsequent shoe horning of club championships when they're all done. Thats where the big problem is IMO. I have never heard anyone whinge around here about the time of year the AIC series is played. In fact I think many would prefer it due to the space and time they have to prepare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2013, 08:30:45 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 08, 2013, 08:06:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
In fairness to hurler of his calibre I think he has shown he can man up and play in all conditions - otherwise he would never have reached the standard he has.

The point remains tho - the county season is too long and takes too much time off the nuts and bolts of the GAA - clubs!

btdtgtt, I would have an issue with the county season BUT ONLY in the summer months due to the subsequent shoe horning of club championships when they're all done. Thats where the big problem is IMO. I have never heard anyone whinge around here about the time of year the AIC series is played. In fact I think many would prefer it due to the space and time they have to prepare.

When you look at the types of pitches these games are played on now it isnt as big a problem as it used to be. The sand based pitch has giving Hurling especially, life around this time of the year. As skull points out maybe it isnt the type of conditions a player like LC would look forward too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Yes I take both points fully.
My point is not confined to the All-Ire Club Stages - and I appreciate pitches have improved. Indeed they are likely to be better in Feb than they are in Oct/Nov due to climate and the surface has had a rest in Nov-Jan rather than havinjg been used all season.
The main argument for me is that many club championships aroung Ireland cannot get started until September. This relegates them to little more than quick play-offs, or else a final played in boggy conditions in November.
Given that much of the receeding year has also been hindered by county activity - this has further relegated the club scene to basically a side-show.
For me clubs have always been the core unit of the GAA, and the vast majority of members are involved in clubs not county.
Therefore it deserves more calender time throughout the year - simples.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Agreed

Its not making money for the paid Gaels so club is merely a means to an end for the upper echelons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2013, 11:26:24 PM
Well lads, not long to go now. The butterflies have well and truly set in. I'm leaving early tomorrow to make it to Craobh Chiarain for 2pm to watch the first semi. I think K/K will beat Thurles by 5 or 6 points. Call it a hunch.  ;)

All the Loughgiel lads are fit and ready to go. As you'd expect, they've been training harder and more than ever. If you set the standard you have to improve upon it to keep winning. St Thomas' are a very good team and will be up for it big time. But so are we. It will be close and tough but I think we've enough to get to the final. I fancy us by 3 - 4 points.

Any of you lads heading down?
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Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2013, 11:30:01 PM
Similar plan to you SiE except going to watch 1st semi in a bar at main road closer to st Vincent's.
I am driving tho!

I fancy thurles to beat kk and the shamrocks - possibly with a few scores in hand.
Good luck!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2013, 12:05:22 AM
Na Seamroga by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
Yeah tight game, semi finals usually are. The amount of draws at this stage have been uncanny!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 09, 2013, 09:37:17 AM
Good luck to the Ulster champions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 09, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Good luck to the shams, if you play like last year no reason not to get to final.

Time to put on hold local rivalries as LG are representing Antrim as well.

SIE will you be posting updates as I'm working wont get to see TV
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2013, 10:34:23 AM
I fancy LG by 5 or 6 and to go the whole way again this year. Its not as if they're a team on the down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2013, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 09, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
Good luck to the shams, if you play like last year no reason not to get to final.

Time to put on hold local rivalries as LG are representing Antrim as well.

SIE will you be posting updates as I'm working wont get to see TV
I don't think so nah. I got bled dry by o2 a couple of years ago. I can't imagine much wifi around Parnell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
Right lads, that's me on the road. If any if you are heading down take it easy.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
Right lads, that's me on the road. If any if you are heading down take it easy.  ;)
All the best wish I was in the motor with ye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Lads anyone know what radio station will be broadcasting the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Lads anyone know what radio station will be broadcasting the game.
I don't know of any radio stations covering the game but I used this link for updates https://twitter.com/officialgaa (poor substitute I know)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2013, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Lads anyone know what radio station will be broadcasting the game.

BBC Radio Ulster are doing it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 04:35:05 PM
Half time Loughiel 1-7 St Thomas 0-8. (Six Burke brothers on the field for St Thomas).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
St Thomas 0-13 Loughiel 1-8. Goal keeping Shamrocks in the game. Mid field needs to be changed before its over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 09, 2013, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
St Thomas 0-13 Loughiel 1-8. Goal keeping Shamrocks in the game. Mid field needs to be changed before its over.

St Thomas look more up for this.  Lots of basic errors from LG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:02:47 PM
St Thomas 0-15 Loughiel 1-10 still nothing in it if Loughiel can dig deep
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:07:21 PM
shamrocks up 2 my heart cant take this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:08:43 PM
Shamrocks one up now shes tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Have St thomas blew it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:19:36 PM
Extra time de ja vu for Loughiel. Need the leaders to step up. St Thomas started first and second half very strongly time for Loughiel to do it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
IIn the pub now. Et ..fs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Have St thomas blew it?
I highly doubt it they have 18 scores to 14 scores loughiel need someone to stand up and drive them on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Have St thomas blew it?
I highly doubt it they have 18 scores to 14 scores loughiel need someone to stand up and drive them on.
Should be interesting, they should have been out of site. fair play LG for plugging away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:31:09 PM
This lad Coney seems to be having run of the park St Thomas take the lead again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 05:34:20 PM
All scores for lg coming from moving ball fast but they kept lookin to break tackle then couldn't live with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:34:47 PM
No 15 hit you a dig in the jaw you'd know all about it  :oBfrom st Thomas that is ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
Where is Joey Scullion playing I would be aiming the ball more his direction..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 05:42:12 PM
Plenty of "step up" potential surely for LG. Might fitness save them??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:45:49 PM
Great stuff at the minute, point for point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:48:12 PM
Why no man marker on Cooney? Where's Liam?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 05:50:44 PM
Need a major
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2013, 05:54:09 PM
Out of jail
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
commenth the hour commenth the man liam watson antrims greatest hurler ever   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2013, 06:02:24 PM
Shamrocks out of jail!
Galway boys have had every chance and blown it - they might not get another. 
Great excitement Altho I thought I saw a few scrums at nights conditions understandable but like I said earlier in the week both parishs deserve to play in proper hurling conditions.
Think shams for the replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on February 09, 2013, 06:02:54 PM
They showed some character to hang in there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 09, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
Jaysus, LG had the luck hanging out of them there!  St Thomas' must be shattered.  They were the better team by a distance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 09, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
Straightforward de brief, easy to see what work and what didn't. If they look to play ball first option then they will prevail
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
Actually fancy St Thomas for the replay, think that game will bring them on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 09, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
commenth the hour commenth the man liam watson antrims greatest hurler ever   8)

Totally missing for the whole game til the last second, good free taker, open play not so sure

Exciting game think St T will feel gutted but still think they are too many for LG in the replay

PS

When did BK get a time share in LG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
Yeah tight game, semi finals usually are. The amount of draws at this stage have been uncanny!!

Hmmmmmmmm   ::) ::)

8/1

Liam Watson went missing for most of that game, but christ he knows when to come out, last puck boom!! I'd have had 15 hurlers on that line he'd have still scored lol.

Cooney was unreal to be fair, St Thomas's shot a serious amount of wides in that game and they could have won. Loughgiel showed some serious character throughout and had their own chances in normal time to win

Yeah Last Man, LG tactics when they used the ball worked well, that game plan they had last year was missing, wide cross field ball into space wasn't used.

Next Saturday's game will be another cracking game, another draw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2013, 09:08:20 PM
.....can't ......breath...must....relax   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 09, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
as in all sports, thats what champion teams do. Well done Lougheil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 09, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
as in all sports, thats what champion teams do. Well done Lougheil

You do know it was a draw ? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 09, 2013, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 09, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
as in all sports, thats what champion teams do. Well done Lougheil

You do know it was a draw ? ;)

at the minute yes, but there is 60 mins left, so they have a chance !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Has any date/venue been fixed ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on February 09, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
I thought LGs tactic worked well today, bringing the full fwd out and forcing their full back to mark one of the pacy corner forwards. Just didn't use it enough. The 2 corner fwds, mc closkey and full back line for LG done well for me. 2 campbells put in a good shift as did full fwd and 2 midfielders. Watson never touched leather all game bar winning a free near the end and of course his goal. Even his free taking wasn't up to scrathch today. St thomas I believe will benefit more from today in imo and I take them for the replay but again anyones game and won't be much in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Has any date/venue been fixed ?

Well it's done for the 16th at 2.00pm both teams evens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Has any date/venue been fixed ?

Well it's done for the 16th at 2.00pm both teams evens.
no one around the club has heard anything yet about dates or venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Has any date/venue been fixed ?

Well it's done for the 16th at 2.00pm both teams evens.
no one around the club has heard anything yet about dates or venue.

Paddy Power have it so must be true :o

I'm sure some of the lads are sore tonight sie, but fair play, some bottle. Brilliant game must have been nerve wrecking throughout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
My brother had a eight to one at a draw. Called the kk vs Thurles right as well.

If St Thomas had a game plan for Liam Watson could Loughiel not have changed theirs to keep young boy Cooney out of it. Can't see Liam Watson being as quiet the next day. Also the lad sent off today for St Thomas' can play the next day right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 07:46:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:58:07 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Has any date/venue been fixed ?

Well it's done for the 16th at 2.00pm both teams evens.
no one around the club has heard anything yet about dates or venue.

Paddy Power have it so must be true :o

I'm sure some of the lads are sore tonight sie, but fair play, some bottle. Brilliant game must have been nerve wrecking throughout
Aye, some are a bit knackered alright. But can't wait for the replay. We got out of jail at the end but the fight and spirit those fellas showed yesterday was unreal. A few of the lads didn't perform well yesterday and they know it.

Conor Cooney is the main man and a plan will have to be effected to try and snuffle him as much as possible. I thought st Thomas' won far too much breaking ball from puck outs, they always had a man sitting back waiting for the breaking ball whereas we seemed to send everyone in on top of other. They also did the simple things very well. but, we live to fight another day thanks to that Watson bodie.

Love him or loathe him, he's a game changer.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 07:47:33 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
My brother had a eight to one at a draw. Called the kk vs Thurles right as well.

If St Thomas had a game plan for Liam Watson could Loughiel not have changed theirs to keep young boy Cooney out of it. Can't see Liam Watson being as quiet the next day. Also the lad sent off today for St Thomas' can play the next day right?
if you look back a page or two I also called that one correctly.  ;)

Didn't call our game correctly though.  :o

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2013, 07:56:35 AM
There'll be no official replay date and venue given out until tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2013, 11:18:35 AM


Conor Cooney is the main man and a plan will have to be effected to try and snuffle him as much as possible. I thought st Thomas' won far too much breaking ball from puck outs, they always had a man sitting back waiting for the breaking ball whereas we seemed to send everyone in on top of other. They also did the simple things very well. but, we live to fight another day thanks to that Watson bodie.


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Cooney was allowed to do what he wanted yesterday, not too many CHF have that in their game, they usually are stifled by the CHB and mainly there to null the CHB's influence on the game. When we play Karl Stewart in that position for club games he usually has does the same. Cooney is a fit lad and made a lot of space for himself. They were reckless in their shot selection also. So plenty of positives for Loughgiel for next week. They have players that will need to bring it next week.

Thon corner forward for St Thomas's was built like fcuk, would have hated being matched up against him in a game, wasn't short on pace either!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 10, 2013, 12:07:40 PM
have to say it was a fantastic game of hurling and serious passion yesterday in Dublin.  Glad i went. 

Watson wasn't at that high standard he set in last all ireland games but can't expect that all the time.  surprised j campbell hit a scoreable free for watson around midfield one time.

have to give it to Watson though, to stand up and do that at the end.  McCloskey not as prolific in forwards yesterday but very positive to see Benny mcgarry and joey scullion hit some excellent scores.

hey although wanted an ulster victory i'll settle for more of the same
hope its still Dublin and pitch will survive weather to take it

little worried too much celebration from shams at end though can see why as they looked to be gone,

gives us all something to look forward to again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2013, 07:45:33 PM
Anywhere on internet i can see Watson's goal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2013, 09:04:43 PM
Adam Watson is decent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 11, 2013, 11:39:48 AM

What is it with these galway people?  this is the same sort of sh1t the Towns u14s got at the feile i Galway a couple of years ago and it was'nt the youngsters on the pitch dishin it out.

http://balls.ie/gaa/loughgiel-hurler-says-st-thomas-players-called-team-orange-cnts-from-the-north/

I'm sure PJ can use this to drive them on.

GO ON THE SHAMS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on February 11, 2013, 11:39:48 AM

What is it with these galway people?  this is the same sort of sh1t the Towns u14s got at the feile i Galway a couple of years ago and it was'nt the youngsters on the pitch dishin it out.

http://balls.ie/gaa/loughgiel-hurler-says-st-thomas-players-called-team-orange-cnts-from-the-north/

I'm sure PJ can use this to drive them on.

GO ON THE SHAMS!

Typical and say's a lot about being part of a UI, these free staters don't even want us lol. Nothing better when we beat the Galway champs in the semi-final. The captain went in to their changing rooms after the match and said ' I know it's tough on ya's but keep the hurling going lads' ' keep up the good work for hurling in Galway' I'm sure they thought he was a c**k but nothing like putting manners on them after beating them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 11, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
Can people from the South just not "move on"?? :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on February 11, 2013, 11:39:48 AM

What is it with these galway people?  this is the same sort of sh1t the Towns u14s got at the feile i Galway a couple of years ago and it was'nt the youngsters on the pitch dishin it out.

http://balls.ie/gaa/loughgiel-hurler-says-st-thomas-players-called-team-orange-cnts-from-the-north/

I'm sure PJ can use this to drive them on.

GO ON THE SHAMS!
do they not no were red and white c***ts from the north,   Lol.  Must have thought they were playing cloughmills!!!  :o.   Anyway.  Fully expected it.  You can't sit in a bar in Galway without hearing that shite.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 11, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Did I just imagine 2posts from SIE that disapeared? Are the shams under orders not to post on forums?   ;D

sleeping giant didn't get the order  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2013, 12:45:37 PM
 ???  Sleeping giant takes no orders from NO1.  Lol. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 01:05:26 PM
Its better to get the facts first  b+A. It'll all come out nearer the time.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 01:05:26 PM
Its better to get the facts first  b+A. It'll all come out nearer the time.  ;)

Central council and the Ulster council will be all over it like a rash, threatening huge suspensions for those involved, wait and see   :o :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2013, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 11, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 01:05:26 PM
Its better to get the facts first  b+A. It'll all come out nearer the time.  ;)

Central council and the Ulster council will be all over it like a rash, threatening huge suspensions for those involved, wait and see   :o :o :o

I doubt anyone will be suspended before the match, game will be required to be played this weekend I'd say. Appeals and what like to happen if it was brought up which won't stop the game being played. You'd rather beat the fookers with their full team. Thread on this before Derry Laois game when it happened, nowt done about it, us calling them free staters them calling us orange fcukers happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 11, 2013, 02:25:45 PM
Back to Parnell next Saturday 1745.
The Brits might not be happy given pitch conditions!
We will wait and see but if these accusations are true then loughiel should go official - it's sad but that's what's needed to stamp this nonsense out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
Aye, Saturday at 5.45. Awful time. No consideration for supporters at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 02:32:48 PM
James Owens from Wexford on the whistle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 11, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
I agree on the timing SiE - I will not make it down this time myself so hopefully it's on live again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 11, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
I agree on the timing SiE - I will not make it down this time myself so hopefully it's on live again.
its on after the two bog ball semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2013, 02:46:37 PM
You would think with the time it's at.  It has to be for tg4 reasons.   After club football. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 11, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
I agree on the timing SiE - I will not make it down this time myself so hopefully it's on live again.
its on after the two bog ball semis.
lol.  The shape that pitch was in you could refer to hurling as bog ball.    Can't believe it's back on that pitch.    Same for both tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Really enjoyed Saturdays game.  Few exceptional performances from our lads, most notably Ding, Joey, Duck, Eddie and Shay.

I thought we struggled to win primary and secondary possession in the middle of the field for long periods though which starved our forwards and put a lot of pressure on our backs.  Duck helped to stop this when he came out to MF and foraged for a lot of breaking ball.  Would of liked to have seen Odhran McFadden threw in around the middle as well.  He's a big strong lad and could of won a few puckouts.

Plenty to play for again on Saturday.  Both teams will fancy their chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 11, 2013, 05:49:46 PM
Where was the young lad Ronan McCloskey (is it?) yesterday? Injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
Chest infection
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
What are you talking about?
known as arlic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 11, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
so are you lads sure that it is live on TG4 looking for listings there but can't find it

pitch i fear will not have recovered in time, wonder what the other options were

timing would suggest it is to be televised for it suits nobody but the stations

could they not have opted for a Sunday, 3pm somewhere inbetween as the crow flys

SIE are the clubs even consulted on issues like this or do they just get the instructions

Reckon Cooney won't hit purple patch like that again, could mccloskey mark him ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
The people in charge of such things meet up and decide date and venue. The TV company (tg4) then sticks it's oar in and tell them what tine suits them and the people in charge agree with them. Afaik the clubs are basically told when and where to turn up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2013, 10:59:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
What are you talking about?

Tweets flying about about our Galway friends giving the Bodies abuse for being orange ***** from the North.
If true, classy.
Displays a lack of intelligence in my book aside from anything else...think of something different to give us abuse about!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 11:39:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 11, 2013, 10:59:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
What are you talking about?

Tweets flying about about our Galway friends giving the Bodies abuse for being orange ***** from the North.
If true, classy.
Displays a lack of intelligence in my book aside from anything else...think of something different to give us abuse about!!
What does any of this have to do with Stephen McGarry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 12, 2013, 12:03:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
The people in charge of such things meet up and decide date and venue. The TV company (tg4) then sticks it's oar in and tell them what tine suits them and the people in charge agree with them. Afaik the clubs are basically told when and where to turn up.

Lads lads lads!
I hate to repeat myself but does anyone really believe the powers that be give a damn about clubs still?
Here's the thinking;
1) time? TG4 will give us money so they can dictate the throw in time to suit them.
2) venue? the dubs are playing league games in croker so we need to give Parnell a consolation gate income regardless of the pitch
3) money into central council vs the core unit of the association? Is there really still a debate! Know ur place peasants!

Personally I think st Thomas have had their chance - and cooney can't do that again. Also maybe winker will contribute something from play.
Shamrocks win. And tommy Moore goes nowhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 12, 2013, 12:50:56 PM
I'd be up for that. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2013, 12:59:39 PM
Tactically interesting game, St Thomas' packed the midfield sector making it difficult for LW and EMcC to get on the ball, only problem with that was that they left the short puck out option to PG who could beat their middle third dominance. I think the tactic was to leave MS alone for the short puck outs knowing he wouldnt have the same distance on his strike. LG worked that well getting it out to PG on numerous occasions to go that bit longer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 12, 2013, 01:14:45 PM
Short puck out is all very well.   If the man turns and hits the full forward line with it.   To much was taken out of the short puck at times and resulted in Toms scores.   Yet anytime the fast ball went in, we looked dangerous.   play like we did against coolderry.   Go man for man. And let it into FF line fast.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
High balls into St Thomas's full back line usually resulted in some kind of score. Their full back line would be shaky enough i'd have said.

I read in different stats in different articles of what Cooney scored. One said 12 points - is that right?

A lot would be from play. If himself and the number 15 were marked better the next day that would go a long way but I guess the question is whether or not LG have the men to mark them.

Hard one to call this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
High balls into St Thomas's full back line usually resulted in some kind of score. Their full back line would be shaky enough i'd have said.

I read in different stats in different articles of what Cooney scored. One said 12 points - is that right?

A lot would be from play. If himself and the number 15 were marked better the next day that would go a long way but I guess the question is whether or not LG have the men to mark them.

Hard one to call this one.

St Thomas's FB line was dung, very rash in the tackle and LG's corner forwards won 90% of the ball that went out to the wings. Why wasn't this used? Tactically on the day St Thomas's got it right, no primary possession won in midfield so feeding the forwards was harder. PJ will have a lot to work on when they play this weekend, providing St Thomas don't play a different tactic.

As SG said, 15 on 15 and hurl like f**k, Watson roving in and out of the FF line picking up loose ball that comes in and lashing it to the net. Play to your own strengths
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
Mccarry (or is it mcgarry??) in cf was excellent.

I have a feeling one team will win by a bit this weekend. I'm just hoping it's loughgiel.

Watson can't be as bad again and cooney can't be as good again. Loughgiel won very little possession though and that is a worry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on February 12, 2013, 10:57:03 PM
St thomas didn't try and catch ball against shamrocks puck outs, they broke everything and sweeped up most of the breaking ball. Shamrocks didn't catch onto this and had no one underneath while st thomas had clearly worked on this. I would consider johnny  campbell on cooney and the other campbell or even barney on the number 15 as young campbell might struggle with his strength. St thomas will learn from this too and I expect their full backline to be a bit different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 12, 2013, 11:03:33 PM
LW in open play .. when hes hot hes hot and when hes not hes not

The way he strikes a dead ball (especially in and around the 21) he's always a threat in any teams mind even if he's not contributing in open play. LG showed they've decent wing men who can keep the scoreboard tipping away when he's not getting in from open play. Sign of a good team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 12, 2013, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 11:39:12 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 11, 2013, 10:59:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 11, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
Is that Stephen McGarry (must be in his high 30's) always put the sun tan on played a while for Cloughmills?
What are you talking about?

Tweets flying about about our Galway friends giving the Bodies abuse for being orange ***** from the North.
If true, classy.
Displays a lack of intelligence in my book aside from anything else...think of something different to give us abuse about!!
What does any of this have to do with Stephen McGarry?

Assume initial reference was because he tweeted about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 13, 2013, 06:24:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
Mccarry (or is it mcgarry??) in cf was excellent.

I have a feeling one team will win by a bit this weekend. I'm just hoping it's loughgiel.

Watson can't be as bad again and cooney can't be as good again. Loughgiel won very little possession though and that is a worry.
Young McCarry is an under-rated performer for us. He ended up 5th highest scorer in championship club  hurling on the island last year, all from open play. Took a few great scores in the AI final last year and a few last Saturday. He chips in with his share of goals too along with Shea Casey. I think we're in for a few tactical and perhaps personnel changes as well this week-end.  ;) 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 13, 2013, 09:12:24 AM
this is off a galway forum about the match

QuoteI see some Antrim players have complained of being called "orange b******s" by Thomas's players. Hope this isn't true, don't want to see this going on & reflects badly on Galway also if true.

There is no truth in this East Galway I can assure you of that - just propaganda by the opposition - they were fairly intimadating themselves on the line and in the stand.

I'd say that is total rubbish. For the average-aged hurler today I'd say that as far as insults go that expression isn't even on the radar.

That's good to hear, much as I didn't want to beleive it without any evidence I couldn't not.Thanks for clearing it up.


It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was said. Sure most young lads wouldn't even know what it means. To them it an insult and it relates to NI so sure why not use it.
If you were from Antrim how could you possibly be insulted. I'd have pity for the republic's education system that put these lads through school and still haven't a clue.... ::) ::) ::)
I'd quickly turn around and call him a Mayo b*****d ;D

Well in all fairness Northern teams wrote the book when it came to sledging, so I would have little or no sympathy for any Northern team who starts complaining about Southern teams calling them Orange b**tards or anything similar, sure haven't they spent years calling us free state b**tards??


http://ghurlingadmin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread=1338&page=3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on February 14, 2013, 07:23:51 AM
loughgeil have used the orange bastard in other games with teams so dry your eyes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 14, 2013, 09:21:52 AM
Quote from: the waffler on February 14, 2013, 07:23:51 AM
loughgeil have used the orange b**tard in other games with teams so dry your eyes

Do Explain?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 14, 2013, 09:32:39 AM
my suspicions are that the waffler is a Port who have had their problems with name calling, but that must be the better part of 10 to 15 years ago although Mickey Johnston was very vocal along the line in a similar vein when he recently managed the Johnnies in a league game down in Portaferry which descended into an all out melee a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 14, 2013, 12:15:30 PM
Mickey Johnston involved in name-calling and staring trouble?!
Surely not!
Must be somebody else!
I mean its not like we have ever heard this about this fella before!

He's in charge at Corrigan again this year - I would rather give my couple of quid to watch the Div2 City teams again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
Match changed to clones 2 o clock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
I can see the headlines tomorrow:

"The GAA make sensible decision shocker!"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 14, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Some successful lobbying by the shamrocks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 14, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Some successful lobbying by the shamrocks?
as far as I know both clubs were far from happy with the replay in Parnell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 14, 2013, 09:43:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 14, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Some successful lobbying by the shamrocks?

sure in this country, crying orange hoors always get their way  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 14, 2013, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

should be worth at least 3 points to the northerners Anthony
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o
It's looking like deferred coverage after the Cross game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o
It's looking like deferred coverage after the Cross game.

Is the second football semi not live at 4pm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o
It's looking like deferred coverage after the Cross game.

Is the second football semi not live at 4pm?
no idea  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 15, 2013, 08:31:07 AM
Excellent coverage of Loughgiel's AI semi final on the official Antrim GAA site. Well done lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 15, 2013, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o

It'd be considered a pretty wet pitch as well and there's been some pish of rain the last few days. Hopefully the pitch will have no bearing on the result and help produce a good fast game of hurling.

Who's de ref this time? McGrath?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 15, 2013, 08:57:54 AM
bit of common sense moving the game to clones as parnell would of been for nothing this week!

cant believe the GAA actually listened to the clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 15, 2013, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 14, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o
It's looking like deferred coverage after the Cross game.

Is the second football semi not live at 4pm?
no idea  ;)

TG4 haven't updated their schedule;

Hurling Semi-final (Replay)
St. Thomas (galway) v Lochgiel Shamrocks (Antrim)

Match Starts: 17:45
Venue: Páirc Parnell, BÁC
Extra-time if required (2 x 10')

PRESENTER: Gráinne McElwain
COMMENTARY: Mac Dara Mac Donncha
ANALYSIS: Cathal Moore & Pat Fleury


hopefully us armchair fans get to see it deferred at quarter to 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2013, 12:28:16 PM
A day like we are getting today, might encourage a few of the armchair viewers to jump in the car and make a run for the border  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 15, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Bouncing!!!   Come on the shamrocks!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 15, 2013, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 15, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Bouncing!!!   Come on the shamrocks!!!!

Throw a few championship shoulder charges into anyone you meet on the street, that'll keep you right!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 15, 2013, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o

It'd be considered a pretty wet pitch as well and there's been some pish of rain the last few days. Hopefully the pitch will have no bearing on the result and help produce a good fast game of hurling.

Who's de ref this time? McGrath?
Terry Owens, Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2013, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 15, 2013, 08:56:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
No excuse for me not to make the half hour journey to watch this.

FFS so it won't be on TV?????

Clones pitch should be ok, hasn't had too many games on it, though last time I seen semi final there Dunloy were duffed by Birr :o

It'd be considered a pretty wet pitch as well and there's been some pish of rain the last few days. Hopefully the pitch will have no bearing on the result and help produce a good fast game of hurling.

Who's de ref this time? McGrath?

Pitch has improved over the years Johnny in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 16, 2013, 02:46:36 AM
All the best tomorrow Loughiel. I believe if you play to your potential you will prevail. Goals win games so I would love to see Liam Watson in full forward and the half forwards playing further back. Thus leaving loads of space for the inside line to operate more efficiently.

Liam is some man to hit a 21 meter free. Arguably the finest in Antrim since Seamus McMullan. The last day he was unlucky not to have  have had a second goal from a free in extra time. Some serious top spin on the one he took before his goal, which resulted in a point.

Very exited a bout the match now. I would much prefare the club All-Ireland series as apposed to inter County. Less predictable and much more variety. Hope the pitch holds up. Has the makings of another classic! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2013, 03:21:31 PM
So Shamrocks beaten 0-7 to 0-15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
Poor performance from both sides in first half with St. Thomas dominating second half. Winker was anonymous apart from knocking over frees. I think Loughgiel may only have scored a point from play!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
St Thomas looked as if they were the better team last week, they proved they were today. Shamrocks very poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on February 16, 2013, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
St Thomas looked as if they were the better team last week, they proved they were today. Shamrocks very poor.

Is about right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2013, 05:42:40 PM
Clones looked in some nick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2013, 05:47:31 PM
The wee fella Bernard Burke killed the game early in the second half. Tight looking wee lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on February 16, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Loughgiel have nothing to be ashamed of. It is very hard to retain an all Ireland club and last year's achievement will be remembered for a very long time.  It is great seeing Antrim hurling in Croker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2013, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 16, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Loughgiel have nothing to be ashamed of. It is very hard to retain an all Ireland club and last year's achievement will be remembered for a very long time.  It is great seeing Antrim hurling in Croker.
Patronising bastard  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
Smelling salts out and not a free to be had.

Has the ref no pea in the whistle ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
No excuses. The better team won. Our forwards were non existent today. If they'd have taken their goal chances at the start of the game it might have been a different outcome. I actually thought our defense played reasonably well, thank Christ that they did.

As for the referee, better left unsaid what I think about his performance today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
The referee was poor for both teams, some hard knocks going about, some players could have seen red but didn't.

Neil McGarry was immense today, McCluskey also tried his heart strings out, rest didn't come to the show

Had chances but it seems the better pitch worked in its favour for the Galway lads. Homework done on Cooney would mean the other lads had chances to shine. Wasn't a great match and if KK bring that form into final I'd say they will win handy.

Be some sore lads tonight. Unlucky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 07:34:27 PM
I think there's also an element of fatigue in this result. They didn't look as sharp in this game or last as they did at this stage last year. The extra month's rest will do no harm in the long run. And anyway, there's always the 4 in a row to aim for.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 07:34:27 PM
I think there's also an element of fatigue in this result. They didn't look as sharp in this game or last as they did at this stage last year. The extra month's rest will do no harm in the long run. And anyway, there's always the 4 in a row to aim for.  ;)

Yeah and to be honest there isn't a team in the Antrim Championship close enough to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 16, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
Gutted.  But it was always gonna end somewhere.    Hard to take.  But it's part of it.   Nice long break.    Good luck to Toms and KK in final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 16, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
I haven't seen the game first of all - nephews indoor hurling blitz which hardstation can no doubt tell us who won - congratulations ur lads much deserved.

I think given the margin if victory the ref can really be an issue even if he was frustrating in the manner of the defeat. But like u day i didn't see the game.

I hope there is no gloating from non-shamrocks - would do well to note that championship draws are on february 25 and everyone will still want to avoid them as one of the best teams in Ireland.

MR2 I think I would fancy the Galway lads in the final tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
No excuses. The better team won. Our forwards were non existent today. If they'd have taken their goal chances at the start of the game it might have been a different outcome. I actually thought our defense played reasonably well, thank Christ that they did.

As for the referee, better left unsaid what I think about his performance today.
Agree on both counts. Forwards made no headway after the early chances and combination of good closing from Shamrocks defence and poor striking from St. Thomas forwards kept it reasonable at halftime.

There should be more hurling in Clones as I was back in the house by 4pm  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 16, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
just a step too far for the shamrocks, but hey gave some great days out.  Though 1 -4 couldn't be faulted they tried thier heart out.  Tony McCloskey can take some credit and his brother on the 40 tried very hard.  two corner men done well in first half.  Although benny hadn't the shooting boots on.  but in the second half they werer poor.

Ref was poor, some things that happened were nailed on frees but he didn't give them.

Clones,  i hope there isn't another hurling match in it.  to get out of it is terrible.

a few retirements in the future.  great lads and have given great service but let the newer lads have a go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 16, 2013, 09:39:16 PM
Id be very suprised if there's any retirements
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 16, 2013, 09:39:16 PM
Id be very suprised if there's any retirements
Me too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 16, 2013, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 16, 2013, 08:42:32 PM

I hope there is no gloating from non-shamrocks

None here anyway. tremenduos honest effort from the shams just was'nt enough. what SIE said
QuoteI think there's also an element of fatigue in this result. They didn't look as sharp in this game or last as they did at this stage last year.
is right but St Thomas are a very good side too and no disgrace to get beat by them.

gettin beat is one thing but this is apity too. Just the same as last week but the other way round

QuoteCongrats to Thomas's!! According to my father who was at the game, the sectarian abuse directed at the Thomas's players and fans was absolutely disgraceful. At least the biffos will be more cultured on paddys day.

I would be surprised if there was any sectarian abuse thrown around , I mean sectarian abuse means to abuse someone's religion and I doubt that Catholics from Antrim would be doing that

Maybe sectarian is the wrong word I used ahascragh, but you know the abusive bile I'm on about I'm sure. It was not pleasant.

Read more: http://ghurlingadmin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread=1338&page=4#ixzz2L6LaRvtB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.

His "refuelling" after the first match might have something to do with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.

His "refuelling" after the first match might have something to do with that.
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.

His "refuelling" after the first match might have something to do with that.
::)

It certainly looked like that in open play for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
He did as much running as anyone else in a Loughgiel shirt yesterday. Can we drop the liam watson fixation in this thread? He is what he is. I could bring up stories about players from other clubs ad nauseam to what ends? None is the answer. It's petty and futile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2013, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
He did as much running as anyone else in a Loughgiel shirt yesterday. Can we drop the liam watson fixation in this thread? He is what he is. I could bring up stories about players from other clubs ad nauseam to what ends? None is the answer. It's petty and futile.

Look people will always have something to say about certain players from their club, I've been fighting my corner for years over players from my club so that's just the way it is. Problem is he is always judged on his on his good days (All Ireland Final) very difficult to have games like that all the time.

Would prefer to play him in a central role in games, if the ball only goes down one wing 15 times in a game then he'll only have that many times to get it, how many does he win off that?? Playing him through a central position then he can link up on either side. But same could be said about Eddie, thought though he found himself on a lot of ball, DD happy enough to land his puck outs towards him.

Well that's that for a while, looking forward to new season hopefully the new league structures won't be a pain to most and we can get up to the top flight. A lot of new players being blooded by new management hopefully they are up for the task
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2013, 12:50:04 PM
Ulster getting hammered already. 3-6 to 0-3 down first half. What's the point in playing in this competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 17, 2013, 11:15:25 PM
Very hard luck to a gallant Loughgiel team who died standing on their feet. They have done Antrim and Ulster  very proud and put us on the hurling map. Their tactics were very close the last day and should or may be could have been up a few points at the start but it just didn't happen. No doubt St Thomas' took heart from it and it drove them on. That's the way games can go. Loughgiels purple patch wasn't capitalised on and they paid for it later in the game. St Thomas made no mistake and took their chances. The rest is history.

Galway club hurling is the equivalent of Kilkenny at inter County level. They are the dominant force. Since the first time Loughgiel won an All-Ireland back in 1983, Galway clubs have won ten All-Irelands between five different clubs. Which to say the least is hugely impressive.

People will point out that Loughgiel only scored one point from play on the day which is disappointing. But their backs only conceded one goal (from a slip by the defender) in 140 minutes of hurling against a forward line with at least four Galway senior hurlers or had played for Galway at one stage is a great return.

If Loughgiel were to be put out of the County Championship this year by a gather up from Bushmills. It wont matter a hoot. They have "the big yin" and you can't take it away from them. Undoubtedly they will have an "x" on their back locally  and I think its going to be a cracking championship later on. I fancy Ballycastle as dark horses.

Good luck to St Thomas' in the final, should be a cracker. Very unique now a days to have six brothers playing together.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 18, 2013, 07:42:15 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\

What's your question on this one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 18, 2013, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\

Dinny knows his stuff.


Disappointed for the bodies, but they'd one of those days where nothing went right for them and St Thomas seemed to have learned more from the replay with Bernard Burke more prominent and making use of it with some good scores from distance. He seemed to find a lot of space out in the right wing to operate.
That St Thomas' are a handy side and there's no shame in getting beat by them. Loughgiel still the team to beat up north, but I think they need to find another ball winning forward to get back into Croke park on St Paddies day.

Would DD and Ding Gillan be the oldest on that team? would they be 33 or 34?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2013, 08:27:36 AM
I would say Ding Gillan is 35, DD maybe is too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 18, 2013, 08:36:57 AM
On another note I'd say it is imperative that Loughgeil encourage more of their players onto the county panel if they aren't already as IMO they need more experience of playing against better hurlers more often as club league hurling in Antrim means they're really only getting three or four toughish games in a year before championship.
That would also be true for any other club with serious aspirations of doing anything on the AI club series.
Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2013, 08:58:14 AM
DD is at most 34(or is 34 soon). I think he was minor in 97.

Ding Gillan was a year above and would be either 35 now or 35 soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\
dinny wasn't near loughgiel last year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 18, 2013, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\
dinny wasn't near loughgiel last year.

Sure what's one more  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 01:39:54 PM
One more will make it 4 in a row nag :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 18, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 01:39:54 PM
One more will make it 4 in a row nag :)

Couldnt resist it SG, so what did big PJ and the Burke fella fall out about at HT? In fairness it did look funny looking in from the outside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
I no nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 02:14:38 AM
What's the craic with Dinny Cahill? Looking at Shamrocks All Ireland picture last year and he was in with the team wearing a Loughgiel hoodie top. Now he's with St Thomas' very strange.. :-\
dinny wasn't near loughgiel last year.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/375030_139089666217644_1645983937_n_zps1c9ac4c7.jpg)
I thought that was Dinny laying on the ground beside PJ O Mullan. Could be wrong though a while since I was home. If not, he looks wile like him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 18, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
That is Mick O'Connell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 18, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 18, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
That is Mick O'Connell
Thanks that clears that up for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2013, 05:11:22 PM
Some midfielder he was too! Havent seen many better since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 18, 2013, 05:26:03 PM
Some nice heeds in that photo.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on February 18, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
I'll never get tired of looking at that photo  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on February 19, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
Watson a big fan of what Neil McManus had to say in the IN today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 19, 2013, 12:15:03 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on February 19, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
Watson a big fan of what Neil McManus had to say in the IN today.

Dont see a lot wrong with what he said in that article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on February 19, 2013, 12:42:43 PM
And neither do I, just Watson seemed to agree with him on twitter....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
back to work today after a recovery day yesterday  :-\

My thoughts on Saturday were that the best team won.  Good luck to St Thomas in the final, they have a number of fine hurlers and they won't be far away.  Much like Loughgiel last year their hassling, tackling was top notch and we were unable to break the tackle and get shots away on various occasions up front.

For us I thought the full-back line emerged with great credit (not often you say that after an 8 point defeat).  Ding and Duck were superb and Neil McGarry put in one of his best ever performances.  If we could of made the ball stick a bit better up front they wouldn't of had to do half the work they did.

We were cleaned out in midfield again unfortunately i felt we were very slow to make a change there.  Eddie was the only forward who was winning his own ball.  When Shay Casey got ball out in front of him in the first half he caused trouble as well.  Declan Laverty having two of his quietest ever games in CF played a big part in our downfall as well.

Would of loved to have seen one of those early goal chances go in but I think we used up our quota of goals in last years final and last weeks semi-final!

The last three years have brought more success than I could of dreamed of after the barren run of 6 final defeats.  Huge credit to all involved and hope they enjoy a well earned rest.  Not the end of this team by any stretch but a few new faces need to be blooded over the next couple of years.

Hopefully the greatest legacy will be that they have inspired another generation to go and win an All Ireland as the team of 83 did.  Up the Shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 19, 2013, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
back to work today after a recovery day yesterday  :-\

My thoughts on Saturday were that the best team won.  Good luck to St Thomas in the final, they have a number of fine hurlers and they won't be far away.  Much like Loughgiel last year their hassling, tackling was top notch and we were unable to break the tackle and get shots away on various occasions up front.

For us I thought the full-back line emerged with great credit (not often you say that after an 8 point defeat).  Ding and Duck were superb and Neil McGarry put in one of his best ever performances.  If we could of made the ball stick a bit better up front they wouldn't of had to do half the work they did.

We were cleaned out in midfield again unfortunately i felt we were very slow to make a change there.  Eddie was the only forward who was winning his own ball.  When Shay Casey got ball out in front of him in the first half he caused trouble as well.  Declan Laverty having two of his quietest ever games in CF played a big part in our downfall as well.

Would of loved to have seen one of those early goal chances go in but I think we used up our quota of goals in last years final and last weeks semi-final!

The last three years have brought more success than I could of dreamed of after the barren run of 6 final defeats.  Huge credit to all involved and hope they enjoy a well earned rest.  Not the end of this team by any stretch but a few new faces need to be blooded over the next couple of years.

Hopefully the greatest legacy will be that they have inspired another generation to go and win an All Ireland as the team of 83 did.  Up the Shamrocks.

Would agree with that assessment apart from that one element.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:39:22 PM
I thought he had a good game but each to their own.  He was marking their best forward on the day the stocky 15 Bernard Burke (i think) and shackled him well when he was on him.  No. 15 did score a good few points from play but that was when he drifted out to Centre and Wing half forward.  Given the quantity of ball that came into our full back line I thought they all done well to limit the scoreline to 15 points as Clones was in good shape.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:44:36 PM
In relation to tactics on the day St Thomas got it spot on (hindsight is wonderful).  They rotated their whole forward line and midfield at regular intervals and our lads struggled with it.

We lined out exactly the same as the last day and only sought to make changes after JC got split and the game was slipping away from us.

I think they changed a member of their half back ine when they were on top towards the end of the first half.....ruthless.  I thought we could of made changes earlier rather than letting things get to the tipping point and getting our hand forced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:44:36 PM
In relation to tactics on the day St Thomas got it spot on (hindsight is wonderful).  They rotated their whole forward line and midfield at regular intervals and our lads struggled with it.

We lined out exactly the same as the last day and only sought to make changes after JC got split and the game was slipping away from us.

I think they changed a member of their half back ine when they were on top towards the end of the first half.....ruthless.  I thought we could of made changes earlier rather than letting things get to the tipping point and getting our hand forced.

They brought on the youngest Burke, made a great impression too when he came on, did the same in the first match. Listen, it's very difficult to make quick changes while manning the line, the view from there is very restrictive and the time flies in. Jim would have seen it I'm sure, was he up in the stand? The other thing is that you trust you're own judgement and while getting advice you are still hopping that your gut feeling is right. PJ can't be blamed really, he's managed to win three titles an All Ireland and more than likely win at least another 2 titles in Antrim before he steps down.

He gave his midfield a good shouting during the first half, so he knew they were under pressure, having a great panel to replace lads that were clearly burnt out from previous week would have been the thing to do, Barney tried hard put was hooked, rushed shots missed shots and could have been moved into defence quicker maybe. Hindsight is a wonderful thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:44:36 PM
In relation to tactics on the day St Thomas got it spot on (hindsight is wonderful).  They rotated their whole forward line and midfield at regular intervals and our lads struggled with it.

We lined out exactly the same as the last day and only sought to make changes after JC got split and the game was slipping away from us.

I think they changed a member of their half back ine when they were on top towards the end of the first half.....ruthless.  I thought we could of made changes earlier rather than letting things get to the tipping point and getting our hand forced.

They brought on the youngest Burke, made a great impression too when he came on, did the same in the first match. Listen, it's very difficult to make quick changes while manning the line, the view from there is very restrictive and the time flies in. Jim would have seen it I'm sure, was he up in the stand? The other thing is that you trust you're own judgement and while getting advice you are still hopping that your gut feeling is right. PJ can't be blamed really, he's managed to win three titles an All Ireland and more than likely win at least another 2 titles in Antrim before he steps down.

I gave his midfield a good shouting during the first half, so he knew they were under pressure, having a great panel to replace lads that were clearly burnt out form previous week would have been the thing to do, Barney tried hard put was hooked, rushed shots missed shots and could have been moved into defence quicker maybe. Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Yeah I know and my post wasn't intended to be one of critiscism more my own independent analysis of the game and where it was won and lost.  I fully accept that not every man can have a stormer everyday and these players owe LG nothing.

I'm not close enough to the players or management to comment but hopefully they are all on board for the incoming season even if some do decide to take an extended break to heal mind and body.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 19, 2013, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 19, 2013, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 19, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
back to work today after a recovery day yesterday  :-\

My thoughts on Saturday were that the best team won.  Good luck to St Thomas in the final, they have a number of fine hurlers and they won't be far away.  Much like Loughgiel last year their hassling, tackling was top notch and we were unable to break the tackle and get shots away on various occasions up front.

For us I thought the full-back line emerged with great credit (not often you say that after an 8 point defeat).  Ding and Duck were superb and Neil McGarry put in one of his best ever performances.  If we could of made the ball stick a bit better up front they wouldn't of had to do half the work they did.

We were cleaned out in midfield again unfortunately i felt we were very slow to make a change there.  Eddie was the only forward who was winning his own ball.  When Shay Casey got ball out in front of him in the first half he caused trouble as well.  Declan Laverty having two of his quietest ever games in CF played a big part in our downfall as well.

Would of loved to have seen one of those early goal chances go in but I think we used up our quota of goals in last years final and last weeks semi-final!

The last three years have brought more success than I could of dreamed of after the barren run of 6 final defeats.  Huge credit to all involved and hope they enjoy a well earned rest.  Not the end of this team by any stretch but a few new faces need to be blooded over the next couple of years.

Hopefully the greatest legacy will be that they have inspired another generation to go and win an All Ireland as the team of 83 did.  Up the Shamrocks.

Would agree with that assessment apart from that one element.

Watched game again tonight. Would agree entirely including Duck. He played very well.
McGarry was immense.
Thomas really never looked like they would score a goal - full back line can do no more than that.

Amazing how different it might have been if 1/2 of those goal chances went in. There were a number of wides as well.

Agree that the hooking, blocking, harassing was immense from St Thomas.

Loughgiel deserve a serious break and hopefully they get one.

Never saw the IN today - anyone able to post the article?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2013, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 19, 2013, 11:14:27 PM
Loughgiel deserve a serious break and hopefully they get one.

Same break as everyone else who's been in the same position although I'm sure some will get more than others. Unfortunately for them this year they've more rest than planned. In terms of rest, its mental more than physical. Kind of makes you feel for the hurlers in top intercounty sides starting club championship just after their county season has completed. Bound to be hard to get the motivation levels up there again Id say. At least club teams involved in the AI club championship have 6 months to get themselves going again.

Game on Saturday didnt go for LG. Noticable difference in the way the game was refereed from the first day. Preferred Saturdays refereeing overall but just as Barry Kelly gave Loughgiel a few handy ones the first day, I thought the ref on Saturday was a bit too lenient the other way with a few tackles from St Thomas which looked blatant frees but not given.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 20, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
Would be very surprised if shams didn't nail at least one more ulster in the next year.  To progress they need to blood new lads. Another mccloskey, McKinley. Etc.  there is also school of thought for o Connell. What age is he.  Though another excellent campaign Fromm dd. o Connell should be in Antrim setup.  I am correct in saying pj. Most successful sham manager ever. Little disappointed with his antics on drawn day. Certainly likes media coverage.  However must hand it to his organisational skills.  Thought after a certain display from a cdall manager towards him,  he would have handled himself better towards dinny. Speaking of which did he have a few gracious words after for the brave men in red and white
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 20, 2013, 01:53:37 PM
"theskull1" Willie O Connor (ex-Kilkenny) corner back once said he would rather be fresh than fit.

Loughgiel were within a midges Micky of making another all Ireland. You have to have some great players in order to that. Talking to some people from Ballycastle and they felt they should have took Dunloy last year. While Dunloy feel they should have taken the Shamrocks in the final only for some awful shooting. Should be an interesting championship this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 20, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
Another cracking picture by curly
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/19694_163206430497448_850799642_n_zps94d02a48.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2013, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 20, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
Would be very surprised if shams didn't nail at least one more ulster in the next year.  To progress they need to blood new lads. Another mccloskey, McKinley. Etc.  there is also school of thought for o Connell. What age is he.  Though another excellent campaign Fromm dd. o Connell should be in Antrim setup.  I am correct in saying pj. Most successful sham manager ever. Little disappointed with his antics on drawn day. Certainly likes media coverage.  However must hand it to his organisational skills.  Thought after a certain display from a cdall manager towards him,  he would have handled himself better towards dinny. Speaking of which did he have a few gracious words after for the brave men in red and white
I don't where you're getting it from about Pj and Dinny. I happen to know that PJ has the highest regard for the man. They were having nothing more than a chat. You've got this one wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
He was punching his fist in the air pretty much in his face.  Just saying a little ott.  But looking at half time last sat it seems to be kind of his trait.  Little playing to crowd.  Had paid him quite a few compliments as well.  Off course these were overlooked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
He was punching his fist in the air pretty much in his face.  Just saying a little ott.  But looking at half time last sat it seems to be kind of his trait.  Little playing to crowd.  Had paid him quite a few compliments as well.  Off course these were overlooked.
They weren't overlooked, they didn't need to be corrected.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 21, 2013, 04:29:30 PM
Interesting reading the last few days.

The shams overall need to get over the game, take a break / then refocus.

They are a hardened lot and could emulate dunloy's dominance of yester-year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
He was punching his fist in the air pretty much in his face.  Just saying a little ott.  But looking at half time last sat it seems to be kind of his trait.  Little playing to crowd.  Had paid him quite a few compliments as well.  Off course these were overlooked.
They weren't overlooked, they didn't need to be corrected.  ;)

take off the red and white glasses, he will hopefully learn from this campaign as well

but will you SIE  ;D

how many shams do you see adding to the county panel later in the campaign or is three the lot

surely PJ senior will ensure the door remains a little ajar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2013, 06:45:30 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
He was punching his fist in the air pretty much in his face.  Just saying a little ott.  But looking at half time last sat it seems to be kind of his trait.  Little playing to crowd.  Had paid him quite a few compliments as well.  Off course these were overlooked.
They weren't overlooked, they didn't need to be corrected.  ;)

take off the red and white glasses, he will hopefully learn from this campaign as well

but will you SIE  ;D

how many shams do you see adding to the county panel later in the campaign or is three the lot

surely PJ senior will ensure the door remains a little ajar
But sure according to the cushendall/ Irish news there's no need for any more players on the panel. They're going to win Leinster the way they're talking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 21, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
well the captain is always going to have to put a positive spin on things.  Another 3 / 4 shams would be welcomed addition

Benny McGarry
Chris O Connell

not sure there after to tell you the truth

Winker no doubt is a talent but can he be handled

now in saying that, it getting rid of these divisions.  What happened at that prize night is beyond belief

that tit gerry wallace did the county some damage in the way he fucked alot of people off

Carlow is the only one i would be hopeful about and since its away i would give us a 30% chance

looks like we are dropping a division

Christ that is bleak stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
Who's Benny McGarry?  :D

There'll be no more shamrocks joining the panel methinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
Sad state of affairs is it not SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
Sad state of affairs is it not SIE?

Got to agree with The Skull here SIE. What's that all about then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 06:29:56 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 21, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
Sad state of affairs is it not SIE?

Got to agree with The Skull here SIE. What's that all about then?
We've already discussed this here lads. I told you before it was made public.

The fact is that Ryan is operating a closed door policy on the Antrim panel. That,s why there'll be no more LG lads joining the panel. Simple as that. Players were expected to go to training from the start with the county panel no matter if they were still involved in the AI or not. Needless to say some of the LG players made it known that they were going to be concentrating on the club if that was the case. 3 players put their names forward. They're on the panel. Indeed Eddie is starting against Limerick on Sunday. The only way people will be joining now is if there is a long term injury to one of the current panel.

Sure, we wouldn't want to be accused of interfering with the happy family that is the Antrim hurling panel. Now would we? I mean, why would any county panel want players from an All Ireland/3 time in a row county championship winning panel?  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 22, 2013, 07:03:09 AM
This is exactly the problem SIE, why should a county team have to bend over backwards to try and get players on board. Any player worth his salt should want to play for the county, if 3 Loughgiel lads signed up to Kevin Ryan's system then it obviously shows that they were the only 3 interested. I'd rather move forward with what we have, committed players who want to be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 22, 2013, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 22, 2013, 07:03:09 AM
This is exactly the problem SIE, why should a county team have to bend over backwards to try and get players on board. Any player worth his salt should want to play for the county, if 3 Loughgiel lads signed up to Kevin Ryan's system then it obviously shows that they were the only 3 interested. I'd rather move forward with what we have, committed players who want to be there.

Did these three LG men who 'signed up' to Kevin Ryans plans attend county training sessions whilst preparing for the AI club semi-final?

IMO it'd be in Loughgiels best interest to have as many players playing at a higher standard as possible throughout the year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 22, 2013, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 17, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.

His "refuelling" after the first match might have something to do with that.
::)

It certainly looked like that in open play for sure.

Appreciate you're sensitive enough about this Seamroga in exile but did he go on the beer after the first game?

This has nothing to do with an individual but if anyone did this it is a farce. Am guessing there would have been clear isntruction not to?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 22, 2013, 07:03:09 AM
This is exactly the problem SIE, why should a county team have to bend over backwards to try and get players on board. Any player worth his salt should want to play for the county, if 3 Loughgiel lads signed up to Kevin Ryan's system then it obviously shows that they were the only 3 interested. I'd rather move forward with what we have, committed players who want to be there.
and i wonder if any of the panel will be swanning off to new York half way through the season this year? That doesn't exactly show commitment JJ. Double standards perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 09:57:02 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 22, 2013, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 17, 2013, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2013, 11:28:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 16, 2013, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 16, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Wouldnt get carried away with that crap there is sledging in every game North South East West, no need for it to be brought up unless it crosses certain boundaries.

On the game thought the intensity was there but the quality was lacking some lovely touches from St Thomas's when getting pinned in the tackle. Too many times the ball got stuck and a ruck formed, although in nearly all of those situations the St T's player came out on top.

The inside defence for LG was solid apart from that they were under severe pressure both JC's getting moved around and MS justr couldnt cover the ground required. Barneys confidence shot to hell as you could see from dropping that ball. Very unusual day for LW on the frees needed every score that was going to stay in touch.

Valiant effort.

His "refuelling" after the first match might have something to do with that.
::)

It certainly looked like that in open play for sure.

Appreciate you're sensitive enough about this Seamroga in exile but did he go on the beer after the first game?

This has nothing to do with an individual but if anyone did this it is a farce. Am guessing there would have been clear isntruction not to?!
truthfully, i have no idea. All i know is he has to play. I think some people on here forget that these lads have been more or less training non stop for over 2 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 22, 2013, 10:37:40 AM
benny mc carry my apologies

i reckon there will

think the county need to start campaigning for a return to 8 team divisions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 22, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 22, 2013, 07:03:09 AM
This is exactly the problem SIE, why should a county team have to bend over backwards to try and get players on board. Any player worth his salt should want to play for the county, if 3 Loughgiel lads signed up to Kevin Ryan's system then it obviously shows that they were the only 3 interested. I'd rather move forward with what we have, committed players who want to be there.
and i wonder if any of the panel will be swanning off to new York half way through the season this year? That doesn't exactly show commitment JJ. Double standards perhaps?
Or will players swan in for 3 week during the summer having turned offers to join earlier that season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 22, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
Kevin Ryan is not operating a closed door policy. That is a fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
He announced to all and sundry that he was. I've just heard in the last few minutes that there might be a couple of additions to the panel alright.  ;)

And as for naming people on here for drinking, who wants to start the ball rolling naming the county starlets lying full up about the pound last weekend? Any takers?   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 22, 2013, 10:37:40 AM
benny mc carry my apologies

i reckon there will

think the county need to start campaigning for a return to 8 team divisions

They haven't even started yet FFS, give it a chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Is there a large group of young talented north antrim hurlers who are just a bit too fond of the drink? Reading between the lines it would appear so.

What in the world would take any hurler not from Loughgiel to the pound last weekend only the opertunity to get full. I find that very strange and worrying behaviour. No doubt an issue with society in general, but a role model or two wouldn't go amiss

Before a sham bites my head off ... I would say the same if the same thing was happening in the bridge?

In the interests of keep the discussion civil, could we not refer to individuals if you feel like replying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 22, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 22, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Is there a large group of young talented north antrim hurlers who are just a bit too fond of the drink? Reading between the lines it would appear so.

What in the world would take any hurler not from Loughgiel to the pound last weekend only the opertunity to get full. I find that very strange and worrying behaviour. No doubt an issue with society in general, but a role model or two wouldn't go amiss

Before a sham bites my head off ... I would say the same if the same thing was happening in the bridge?

In the interests of keep the discussion civil, could we not refer to individuals if you feel like replying

I think players within all county set-ups will take a drink but I'd say the abstinence during the season for Antrim players would not compare to the likes of KK, Galway etc.

It's a bit of a 'chicken' and 'egg' scenario.  In KK the rewards of a clean, committed lifestyle and total committment to the cause are clear - All ireland medals, public acclaim other associated benefits (jobs for the boys etc).

In Antrim you get - pride of wearing the county jersey, some local acclaim, the odd big day out but will also be on the end of some awful tankings and some ganching similar to what goes on in this forum and bars around the County.

For us to compete at IC level there would need to be:

- massive buy-in from all clubs
- all players committing fully
- good cohesion between panel themselves and management (even if they don't get along individuals they would need to see the bigger goal)
- general level of interest from clubs, players, supporters in the fortunes of the County team

Because we have NONE of the above we will never compete in the near future.  Because we never compete at a high level (recently) it is hard to get clubs, players and supporters to buy in to the whole thing.

Do we have a drink problem in the County?  No.

Would we have less stories of our County standard players out for a few jars if we were successful, yeah I think we would.

Moving away from drink if we were a County who were pushing for honours we would have a potential forward line of:

10 - Eddie McCloskey
11- Karl Stewart
12 - Neil McManus
13 - Shay Casey / Benny McCarry
14 - Shane McNaughton
15 - Liam Watson

I think those boys could do well and trouble defences.  Will we ever see that line up?  I don't think so.  General dis-interest in the County, obvious friction between a few names on there etc (which is understandable) and club rivalries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 22, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
Realistic MR2

Think this is simply were we are at, no fault of current management.  Blame last years lot

think it would be better for hurling in general

SIE can you ever remember the situation being as bad i.e. relationship wise between the big clubs

social media hasn't helped.  Nor has has the  re emergence of DA SHAMS.  Actually don't believe the last point myself.  though it is a school of thought amongst certain GLENBUSH citizens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 22, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
Realistic MR2

Think this is simply were we are at, no fault of current management.  Blame last years lot

think it would be better for hurling in general

SIE can you ever remember the situation being as bad i.e. relationship wise between the big clubs

social media hasn't helped.  Nor has has the  re emergence of DA SHAMS.  Actually don't believe the last point myself.  though it is a school of thought amongst certain GLENBUSH citizens.
Or God's country as it's affectionately known.

The rivalry has been ever thus, it's just been made more prominent after our recent successes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballycastle17 on February 22, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
Moving away from drink if we were a County who were pushing for honours we would have a potential forward line of:

10 - Eddie McCloskey
11- Karl Stewart
12 - Neil McManus
13 - Shay Casey / Benny McCarry
14 - Shane McNaughton
15 - Liam Watson

I think those boys could do well and trouble defences.  Will we ever see that line up?  I don't think so.  General dis-interest in the County, obvious friction between a few names on there etc (which is understandable) and club rivalries.
[/quote]
10.Eddie McCloskey
11. Neil McManus
12.Liam Watson
13.P.J O'Connel
14.Shane McNaughton
15.Ciaran Clarke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Ballycastle17 on February 22, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
Moving away from drink if we were a County who were pushing for honours we would have a potential forward line of:

10 - Eddie McCloskey
11- Karl Stewart
12 - Neil McManus
13 - Shay Casey / Benny McCarry
14 - Shane McNaughton
15 - Liam Watson

I think those boys could do well and trouble defences.  Will we ever see that line up?  I don't think so.  General dis-interest in the County, obvious friction between a few names on there etc (which is understandable) and club rivalries.
10.Eddie McCloskey
11. Neil McManus
12.Liam Watson
13.P.J O'Connel
14.Shane McNaughton
15.Ciaran Clarke
[/quote]

How many of those players would bring their passion to the game (for the County) they way they do for their clubs come Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 22, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 22, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
Realistic MR2

Think this is simply were we are at, no fault of current management.  Blame last years lot

think it would be better for hurling in general

SIE can you ever remember the situation being as bad i.e. relationship wise between the big clubs

social media hasn't helped.  Nor has has the  re emergence of DA SHAMS.  Actually don't believe the last point myself.  though it is a school of thought amongst certain GLENBUSH citizens.
Or God's country as it's affectionately known.

The rivalry has been ever thus, it's just been made more prominent after our recent successes.
20 years ago the rivalry was dealt with outside Legends Nightclub on a Saturday night instead of via Twitter etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2013, 02:20:42 PM
The rivalry has been ever thus, it's just been made more prominent after our recent successes.
[/quote]

Social media coupled with your recent success. Jealousy in some quarters and smugness in others to blame in equal portions IMO. Adults behaving like children is what we have. If all concerned grew up a bit it would certainly help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2013, 08:04:01 AM
Unfortunately that isn't going to happen any time soon skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2013, 06:41:32 PM
Tough game tomorrow, we've been shit against Limerick lately, even when we had a good league campaign we always fell short against Limerick.

Hope we beat the handicap!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 01:50:54 AM
I would love to see them put up a performance against Limerick. But they won't. No matter how great the squad have been getting on.

Limerick by 14. At least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 02:25:49 PM
Antrim 4 up. This is why i don't bet.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
13-8 up at half time. They had a penalty saved for a point. They also had a strong breeze being them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 24, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
13-8 up at half time. They had a penalty saved for a point. They also had a strong breeze being them.
WE : )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on February 24, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
Limerick ahead by 2 now after goal, did anyone expect us to hang on.

The way Kilkenny do this and kill teams off is what we all should be replicating.

However, I notice they are also being beat by Galway today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
Limerick win by a goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 24, 2013, 10:32:18 PM
Great performance today from the Antrim lads. Humble pie has been well eaten. They were unlucky not to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 24, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Won't have been much money put on Antrim within 4 points. However, credit where it is due that is a cracking result away from home. Hope they can build on this and give the Dubs a rattle in Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2013, 11:00:22 PM
The result will fairly bring out the support on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
Anyone any "hunches" on the championship draws?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 25, 2013, 04:01:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
Anyone any "hunches" on the championship draws?

are they still seeded, if so the town, Loug, Dall and Dunloy will meet a crowd of wannabees and we will be left with Dall/shams final again. if not i fancey rossa (without a seeded draw) to make a go for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2013, 08:56:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
Anyone any "hunches" on the championship draws?

aye dunloy, cdall and ballycastle to be in the same side again with lgiel playing the easy side as per usual  ;D lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 25, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 25, 2013, 04:01:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
Anyone any "hunches" on the championship draws?

are they still seeded, if so the town, Loug, Dall and Dunloy will meet a crowd of wannabees and we will be left with Dall/shams final again. if not i fancey rossa (without a seeded draw) to make a go for the final.

After last year's performances where does this confidence come from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
I wonder will there be any conspiracy theories when the open draw is announced!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 11:22:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
I wonder will there be any conspiracy theories when the open draw is announced!

Who cares, get it on so respective teams can concentrate on their championship game plan. To win the Championship you need to beat at least one team that will be perceived to be equal or better than your own team.

I hope we get Loughgiel, in Belfast. That will be at least one team equal to us out of the way ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
i actually dont mind who we get, last year was a tough run playing ballycastle, cdall and lgiel. it doesnt get any harder than that to try and win a championship.

are the league fixtures announced as well tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 25, 2013, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 25, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
i actually dont mind who we get, last year was a tough run playing ballycastle, cdall and lgiel. it doesnt get any harder than that to try and win a championship.

are the league fixtures announced as well tonight?

You will have to beat someone to win it, so worrying about who you get in the draw is pretty pointless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 25, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
Promising display yesterday by all accounts. Should give the lads confidence and the belief to get a result against Dublin. May also inspire a few extra (me included) to go and watch the game if they think it'll be competitive as someone else alluded to.

Neil McManus appears to be hurling some stuff at present.  Good to see Karl Stewart back as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
I wish this senior draw would hurry up.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2013, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
I wish this senior draw would hurry up.  :P
Who have youse lined up this year?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2013, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
I wish this senior draw would hurry up.  :P
Who have youse lined up this year?  ;)
Mr 2 got his wish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2013, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
I wish this senior draw would hurry up.  :P
Who have youse lined up this year?  ;)
Mr 2 got his wish.

Atr home?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 25, 2013, 09:02:14 PM
Copied from twitter:

#AntrimSHC: Prelim 1: St Galls v @loughgielgac. Rossa v Dunloy, Naomh Brid v Winner Prelim 1, st. John's v @RuairiOgCdall #gaa

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on February 25, 2013, 09:08:05 PM
fix
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2013, 09:26:12 PM
Dont forget The Town v Oisins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 25, 2013, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories??

Just headers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?

I think Rossa will be looking forward to this tie, they haven't played Dunloy in a while in the Championship, Casement will play a double header no doubt. St Johns will want Cushendall in Corrigan, Janty has them flying, 4 nights a week training, their 2nd team beat us last week. That could be a tough one for the Dall.

As for us, cannon fodder, Loughgiel will steam roll us, we'll put up a decent 40 minutes and collapse. Loughgiel 4 in a row again, fair play. Who do they get then? Leinster champions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 25, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
Hahaha.   MR2 will you stop it!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on February 25, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 25, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
Promising display yesterday by all accounts. Should give the lads confidence and the belief to get a result against Dublin. May also inspire a few extra (me included) to go and watch the game if they think it'll be competitive as someone else alluded to.

Neil McManus appears to be hurling some stuff at present.  Good to see Karl Stewart back as well.

Yes sounds like a promising performance down in Limerick so hopefully they can build on that and get a couple of wins which i think will keep them up. However given Offaly nearly snatched it from Dublin and Wexford didn't exactly steam roll over Carlow then make no mistake its going to be tough to stay in 1B.

As for the championship L'giel should get to the semis and hopefully Ballycastle will be there against them. As for the other side of the draw if the Johnnies new manager gets a response out of them and Rossa continue to improve then there could be a couple of tasty q/finals on that side of the draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 25, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
Hahaha.   MR2 will you stop it!!!

What? I've been on the phone to Paddy Power, Loughgiel 2/1 to get to the All Ireand semi final!! Mortgage paid for ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 25, 2013, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 25, 2013, 09:54:28 PM
Hahaha.   MR2 will you stop it!!!

What? I've been on the phone to Paddy Power, Loughgiel 2/1 to get to the All Ireand semi final!! Mortgage paid for ;)
lol.     Your some boy!! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 26, 2013, 12:19:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

Dunloy?????


And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 26, 2013, 12:47:49 AM
If your going on roll of honor.  Ballycastle is a "big 3 team"    A team on the rise.  And will not be no walk over for St galls-Loughgiel-c mills
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?



as i said with my previous post if it was seeded that draw is what it is, but its ment to be unseeded. ffs give me a break this county will never change shams/dall final? i said it but sure you can hope for an upset...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 26, 2013, 06:28:08 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?



as i said with my previous post if it was seeded that draw is what it is, but its ment to be unseeded. ffs give me a break this county will never change shams/dall final? i said it but sure you can hope for an upset...
Didn't you know that Loughgiel fix it every year?  McManus was in on it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2013, 08:46:42 AM
so another easy draw for lgiel again. who seen that coming! lol

possible semi final against ballycastle. that could be a great game for the neutral. we were lucky last year to get a 1 point win over the town and i expect big things from them as they have some cracking players in the team.

our game will be tough as rossa are always hard to beat in the championship. no doubt this game will be in the city which makes it tougher for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?



as i said with my previous post if it was seeded that draw is what it is, but its ment to be unseeded. ffs give me a break this county will never change shams/dall final? i said it but sure you can hope for an upset...

Still dont know where you are getting this final pairing from? There is no recent evidence to support this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?



as i said with my previous post if it was seeded that draw is what it is, but its ment to be unseeded. ffs give me a break this county will never change shams/dall final? i said it but sure you can hope for an upset...

Still dont know where you are getting this final pairing from? There is no recent evidence to support this.

They have contested 6 of the last 8 finals, because they didnt make it to the final last year are they all of a sudden a bad team?? they also topped the league last year (only lost two games late in the season). whats your gripe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 26, 2013, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
So the three city teams draw the big3 from north antrim.     

Then the remaining weaker north antrim teams play off for an xtra championship game. Nice one.

And as an aside the shamrocks and cloughmills get a wee next door game - anyone else plays cloughmills it's meaningless.

And is that loughiel into the final without meeting another big3 team again?

Well well well - did someone in this board hint that this draw might lead to some conspiracy theories?



as i said with my previous post if it was seeded that draw is what it is, but its ment to be unseeded. ffs give me a break this county will never change shams/dall final? i said it but sure you can hope for an upset...

Still dont know where you are getting this final pairing from? There is no recent evidence to support this.

They have contested 6 of the last 8 finals, because they didnt make it to the final last year are they all of a sudden a bad team?? they also topped the league last year (only lost two games late in the season). whats your gripe.

Tell me the last serious Championship match that Cushendall have won?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
St Galls at Loughgiel?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
St Galls at Loughgiel?  :o

Ok rephrase  ;) A match that they were not expected to win, or against either Dunloy or Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
St Galls at Loughgiel?  :o

Ok rephrase  ;) A match that they were not expected to win, or against either Dunloy or Loughgiel.

Yeah It's been a while, ya better watch out or Ballycastle will over take ya's

On a serious note, St Johns will be happy to be in Belfast, I think the lesser sides playing the top teams can only be a good thing. No point the lesser teams playing themselves and learning nothing till they meet a top team. I'm sure our lads can't wait till the game and will be well up for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 26, 2013, 12:54:35 PM
I get the Dall argument but to write them off is ridiculous given the talen they have available.

Well here goes - its February but I dont think the next 8 months will prove me wrong:

Shams beat Galls

Dall beat Johns
Dunloy beat Rossa
Shams beat Cloughmills
Town beat Oisins

Dall beat Dunloy (!!!)
Shams beat Town

Shams beat Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 26, 2013, 12:54:35 PM
I get the Dall argument but to write them off is ridiculous given the talen they have available.

Well here goes - its February but I dont think the next 8 months will prove me wrong:

Shams beat Galls

Dall beat Johns
Dunloy beat Rossa
Shams beat Cloughmills
Town beat Oisins

Dall beat Dunloy (!!!)
Shams beat Town

Shams beat Dall

Wasnt writing them off, was merely pointing to the fact that people we automatically picking them as finalists when they havent beaten anyone in a serious competitive game going on a good few years now.

Ballycastle to improve again this year but will they improve enough to take out LG?

St Johns and Rossa be glad to see btdtgtt going against them, with his track record of predictions  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 26, 2013, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 26, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 26, 2013, 12:54:35 PM
I get the Dall argument but to write them off is ridiculous given the talen they have available.

Well here goes - its February but I dont think the next 8 months will prove me wrong:

Shams beat Galls

Dall beat Johns
Dunloy beat Rossa
Shams beat Cloughmills
Town beat Oisins

Dall beat Dunloy (!!!)
Shams beat Town

Shams beat Dall

Wasnt writing them off, was merely pointing to the fact that people we automatically picking them as finalists when they havent beaten anyone in a serious competitive game going on a good few years now.

Ballycastle to improve again this year but will they improve enough to take out LG?

St Johns and Rossa be glad to see btdtgtt going against them, with his track record of predictions  ;)

I can't argue with that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 28, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
im quite happy for people to expect a dall v lgiel final. everyone thought it last year and we beat cdall, with a bit to spare which surprised me.
i will take us being underdogs again ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2013, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2013, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 28, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
im quite happy for people to expect a dall v lgiel final. everyone thought it last year and we beat cdall, with a bit to spare which surprised me.
i will take us being underdogs again ;)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet though.

Yeah, you'll hardly be underdogs against Rossa!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2013, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 28, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
im quite happy for people to expect a dall v lgiel final. everyone thought it last year and we beat cdall, with a bit to spare which surprised me.
i will take us being underdogs again ;)
Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet though.

HS just on your guys, is there any plans to redevelop Rossa park, with a view to a social club or refurb of the changing rooms or anything?

PS I see JC is at his work regarding Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
Not sure they're going to run with a social club but yeah, they're looking to develop it. Think work is start in a couple of weeks.

As for Casement, I wouldn't like it built at the bottom of my garden either.

Yeah there is no arguing that it will be an inconvenience for the residents in the locality for the development phase, but can they not see past that, to it providing jobs for their community and hopefully some sort of sustained investment in the area too? Or is it the fact the residents around the Aviva got a pay off that is sticking in his throat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 28, 2013, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 28, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
Not sure they're going to run with a social club but yeah, they're looking to develop it. Think work is start in a couple of weeks.

As for Casement, I wouldn't like it built at the bottom of my garden either.

Build him a tunnel to the social club and a few snooker tables and he'll be happy enough!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
Especially when it sits empty most of the year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 12:32:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
Especially when it sits empty most of the year!

My feeling on it is that it will have to be used, either by the GAA or by concert promoters to make it pay its way. Total madness for a place this size to be building 3 major stadiums but we are past that point now. Now we need to look at how best to use it, how best to use it as an economic driver for that part of Belfast etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
Plenty of big houses round the country going at 30-40% of their value at the top of the market and they're still hard to sell because people understand that running costs is a factor that needs considering.

I think more sensible negotiations should have taken place to build what was needed rather than create a monster that will be really difficult to manage and finance.

The upper echelons of the GAA is becoming more and more like the RC church. They are serving their own interests more and more IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 28, 2013, 01:04:39 PM
Heard a whisper an events company are already onboard with the new casement and are rubbing their hands at the thought of it...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2013, 01:15:56 PM
Ex Antrim footballer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 28, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
Plenty of big houses round the country going at 30-40% of their value at the top of the market and they're still hard to sell because people understand that running costs is a factor that needs considering.

I think more sensible negotiations should have taken place to build what was needed rather than create a monster that will be really difficult to manage and finance.

The upper echelons of the GAA is becoming more and more like the RC church. They are serving their own interests more and more IMO

If the government are stupid enough to offer the GAA the funding to build Casement up then it is they who are the fools and not the GAA. The GAA were on board for the Maze project and were happy for it to go ahead, this did not suit the soccer dogs so the money was the divided up and the 3 stadiums got revamped instead of one new one. If some one comes and offers to build you a brand new house which could help the revenue streams of Antrim and Ulster GAA then who would turn it down?

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 28, 2013, 01:04:39 PM
Heard a whisper an events company are already onboard with the new casement and are rubbing their hands at the thought of it...

Well if they are any good then we should all be rubbing our hands together no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 28, 2013, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
If some one comes and offers to build you a brand new house which could help the revenue streams of Antrim and Ulster GAA then who would turn it down?

If someone came and offered to build you a brand new huge house for free that you could not sell but had ongoing running/maintenance costs that you could not afford .... you're saying that you would accept the offer?

It may be in the interests of interested parties to encourage you to see it as a no brainer. I'm saying that there are concerns about how this stadium is funded going forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 28, 2013, 01:47:19 PM
'Rubbing our hands' in theory yes. Remember Casement is the new Ulster GAA head quarters not Antrim. It will benefit the area no doubt which I look fwd to. The residents are abit miffed at the finalised plans as they thought the new stadium would be sunken into the ground so that it wouldn't be higher then exsiting. When I spoke to one, she/he near sh*t when they saw the plans. The residents had already agreed to back the 'new' Casement in principle which might have sunk them trying an official residents group objection to the architecture but I believe they are trying to rally the troops...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 01:54:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 28, 2013, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
If some one comes and offers to build you a brand new house which could help the revenue streams of Antrim and Ulster GAA then who would turn it down?

If someone came and offered to build you a brand new huge house for free that you could not sell but had ongoing running/maintenance costs that you could not afford .... you're saying that you would accept the offer?

It may be in the interests of interested parties to encourage you to see it as a no brainer. I'm saying that there are concerns about how this stadium is funded going forward

Yes the running costs are an issue among others, but my view point is that, this is where a highly skilled Stadium Management Group, come in to make it a viable project going forward and actually to get it to be a revenue generator as opposed to a drain on funds. Whether this is going to be the case is obviously yet to be proved but I would have thought it would have been part of the process when looking at the viability.

By no means was I saying it is a no brainer, but in principle I would be for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 02:08:15 PM
NAG - remember when the government give the GAA money for Casement, thats our money! It didnt come from the sky - its our taxes.
Personally I think the size of NI/Ulster having three stadia is nothing short of a crime - especially given the current economic circumstances.

As for the residents - I can appreciate their point of view. Sinking the pitch to ensure their houses are not in shade from the stands should have been a given.

As for concerts - if thats what is needed to justify the stadium then it proves the whole venture is flawed from the outset. Its not a GAA stadium but a multi-use facility. Which is not what our Association is about.

Also - using this rationale - does that not mean that the new Ravenhill and Windsor would be looking to attract concerts?
I mean how many people really are going to play in Belfast?!
Is the Odyssey just going to fall into Belfast Lough?!

So many questions, so few answers - and all very little to do with grassroots GAA clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 02:08:15 PM
NAG - remember when the government give the GAA money for Casement, thats our money! It didnt come from the sky - its our taxes.
Personally I think the size of NI/Ulster having three stadia is nothing short of a crime - especially given the current economic circumstances.

As for the residents - I can appreciate their point of view. Sinking the pitch to ensure their houses are not in shade from the stands should have been a given.

As for concerts - if thats what is needed to justify the stadium then it proves the whole venture is flawed from the outset. Its not a GAA stadium but a multi-use facility. Which is not what our Association is about.

Also - using this rationale - does that not mean that the new Ravenhill and Windsor would be looking to attract concerts?
I mean how many people really are going to play in Belfast?!
Is the Odyssey just going to fall into Belfast Lough?!

So many questions, so few answers - and all very little to do with grassroots GAA clubs.

Yes it is our taxes but when the other 'partners' decided to go their own way on the stadiums then it was either use it or lose it.

I think the multi use argument is mute now after the way Croke park has been used in recent times, it has been able to provide a home for Rugby/ Soccer while the Aviva was completed and also has staged some world class concerts and large events. There is more to it than concerts but again thats why there will be a Stadium Management to make it a viable going concern.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 28, 2013, 02:08:15 PM
NAG - remember when the government give the GAA money for Casement, thats our money! It didnt come from the sky - its our taxes.
Personally I think the size of NI/Ulster having three stadia is nothing short of a crime - especially given the current economic circumstances.

As for the residents - I can appreciate their point of view. Sinking the pitch to ensure their houses are not in shade from the stands should have been a given.

As for concerts - if thats what is needed to justify the stadium then it proves the whole venture is flawed from the outset. Its not a GAA stadium but a multi-use facility. Which is not what our Association is about.

Also - using this rationale - does that not mean that the new Ravenhill and Windsor would be looking to attract concerts?
I mean how many people really are going to play in Belfast?!
Is the Odyssey just going to fall into Belfast Lough?!

So many questions, so few answers - and all very little to do with grassroots GAA clubs.

Yes it is our taxes but when the other 'partners' decided to go their own way on the stadiums then it was either use it or lose it.

I think the multi use argument is mute now after the way Croke park has been used in recent times, it has been able to provide a home for Rugby/ Soccer while the Aviva was completed and also has staged some world class concerts and large events. There is more to it than concerts but again thats why there will be a Stadium Management to make it a viable going concern.

My point is that goverment should not have authorised three stadia - either agree on one or nobody gets it.
Three stadia is a sin.

Also - I dont think the new Casement will attract events/concerts etc in the way Croker does - the city is not as big and there is too much competition for the limited events which come to Belfast.

I think its a white elephant waiting to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 05, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
is this site shut down or just no1 posting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2013, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 05, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
is this site shut down or just no1 posting

Leagues haven't started and Loughgiel out of the All Ireland, nowt really to talk about. Any new managers out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 06, 2013, 01:18:58 AM
Roy mc larnon manager of the aggies and crossey looking after o dees. All i know qpart from your club, young bellew and whoever.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2013, 08:41:44 AM
I think we're officially still managerless, but we've got a lad in training the team and a few others with him who seem to be working ok together. It remains to be seen if the higher echelons of the club let them remain in situ.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Bit of politics JohnnyCool?

Talking to the Johnnies men they are flying - putting a mountain of work in with big numbers and challenge games.

Anyone shed any light on the actual fixture list?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2013, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Bit of politics JohnnyCool?

Talking to the Johnnies men they are flying - putting a mountain of work in with big numbers and challenge games.

Anyone shed any light on the actual fixture list?

I give that to the good weather kicks in, stag parties, holidays and the Belfast festival always seem to slow the progress down  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on March 06, 2013, 12:35:31 PM
Who is with Cushendall this year?

And is the Dunloy management team staying in place, as I think they done very well to get the best out of a team that nobody expected much from, I feel they could do the same again this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 06, 2013, 01:05:06 PM
no change for us this year, same as last year again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2013, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
Bit of politics JohnnyCool?

Talking to the Johnnies men they are flying - putting a mountain of work in with big numbers and challenge games.

Anyone shed any light on the actual fixture list?

I don't think its parochial politics, moreso an inability to make a decision.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Not great when the leagues are close to starting - especially as this could be a tough year for your lads?

The dithering might be frustrating - understandable if choosing between different options but at this stage an outsider might suggest you would be better getting the managment in place and running with it?

It seems the Lambs are struggling also - no manager and few players?
Has Micko's opting for bog ball affected their hurling set up?

I would fancy St Johns to start with a flurry of wins then fade off as NAG suggested!
Its a city affliction!

St Galls bog-ballers the honorable exception MR2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Not great when the leagues are close to starting - especially as this could be a tough year for your lads?

The dithering might be frustrating - understandable if choosing between different options but at this stage an outsider might suggest you would be better getting the managment in place and running with it?

It seems the Lambs are struggling also - no manager and few players?
Has Micko's opting for bog ball affected their hurling set up?

I would fancy St Johns to start with a flurry of wins then fade off as NAG suggested!
Its a city affliction!

St Galls bog-ballers the honorable exception MR2!

Intelligence is a wonderful thing btdtgtt, that's the difference I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
McCarry and fellow Loughgiel man Mark McFadden have been drafted into the squad along with Ballycastle's Stephen McAree by manager Kevin Ryan.
"With the three lads coming in, the panel is more or less settled now. It's a solid enough panel with a lot of cover for all the various positions."

I didnt agree with it anyway but this makes a mockery of his "closed-door" statements.

Laverty out and Barry McFall an injury doubt - personally I don't rate him so no huge loss.
Would be delighted if we could build on the Limerick performance and put one over Dublin.
Carlow and Wexford definitely beatable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
Benny's call up is well overdue and Duck will give 100% to the final whistle. Glad to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 06, 2013, 06:46:48 PM
Austin with O donnells not crossey and I expect janty won't let the johnnies rest up too much but all about peaking at the right time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
I agree - St. John's will start like a whirlwind maybe take a big scalp.
But then fade as the rest get up to speed.

What about the galls?
Bellew up and running?
Can't see anyone competing with milltown in div2 unless they don't want to go up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
Benny's call up is well overdue and Duck will give 100% to the final whistle. Glad to see it.
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Agreed, these two tried their guts out last month, deserve a crack at county level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 06, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I think st galls could find it tough enough. Very young team this year with a lot of older guys injured, retired, etc. I hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
I have not retired!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 06, 2013, 09:37:57 PM
No but you should be :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 06, 2013, 11:10:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
McCarry and fellow Loughgiel man Mark McFadden have been drafted into the squad along with Ballycastle's Stephen McAree by manager Kevin Ryan.
"With the three lads coming in, the panel is more or less settled now. It's a solid enough panel with a lot of cover for all the various positions."

I didnt agree with it anyway but this makes a mockery of his "closed-door" statements.

Laverty out and Barry McFall an injury doubt - personally I don't rate him so no huge loss.
Would be delighted if we could build on the Limerick performance and put one over Dublin.
Carlow and Wexford definitely beatable.

Where does McAree play?

Is that Conor Laverty out? of squad or injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
Out injured for the game this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 06, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
Out injured for the game this weekend.

Cheers. Had heard he did rightly v Limerick so was confused.

As regards closed squad is there no way back for Hippy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
Doesn't sound like the squad was closed at all. 

I think this is right - but it shows it was a stupid comment in the first place if its not stuck to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 07, 2013, 06:49:57 AM
The lad from Ballycastle is Stephen Mc Afee, not Mc Aree. He plays in midfield or the odd time in the full foward line. Good hurler and lightening quick, I'd have high hopes he will make a county hurler. On the minus side he is a bit light.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
I think this is right - but it shows it was a stupid comment in the first place if its not stuck to.

Lazy and condescending comment from yourself more like. Its clear by his comments re closed squad the man isnt going to be dicked around by players who "might" think the can swan in whenever it suits THEM rather than the team. I admire him for trying to set a standard but at the same time being flexible to those who want to commit in a solid way. I'd also expect him to be flexible to any that show good form in the club leagues but haven't yet been approached to join the panel yet. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
I think this is right - but it shows it was a stupid comment in the first place if its not stuck to.

Lazy and condescending comment from yourself more like. Its clear by his comments re closed squad the man isnt going to be dicked around by players who "might" think the can swan in whenever it suits THEM rather than the team. I admire him for trying to set a standard but at the same time being flexible to those who want to commit in a solid way. I'd also expect him to be flexible to any that show good form in the club leagues but haven't yet been approached to join the panel yet.

Spot on skull, if you talk to any of panel they like and respect him. But he wont placate prima dona part timers. If we  want to be competitive we have start working and thinking like the competition. Looks like we are doing just as well with less high profile players that are clearly more committed. I don't know what he's doing with them but they are champing at the bit. We seen all this before so let's hope for a good summer. As for his press statements they seem a lot more balanced than last years manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 07, 2013, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
I think this is right - but it shows it was a stupid comment in the first place if its not stuck to.

Lazy and condescending comment from yourself more like. Its clear by his comments re closed squad the man isnt going to be dicked around by players who "might" think the can swan in whenever it suits THEM rather than the team. I admire him for trying to set a standard but at the same time being flexible to those who want to commit in a solid way. I'd also expect him to be flexible to any that show good form in the club leagues but haven't yet been approached to join the panel yet.

Spot on skull, if you talk to any of panel they like and respect him. But he wont placate prima dona part timers. If we  want to be competitive we have start working and thinking like the competition. Looks like we are doing just as well with less high profile players that are clearly more committed. I don't know what he's doing with them but they are champing at the bit. We seen all this before so let's hope for a good summer. As for his press statements they seem a lot more balanced than last years manager.

FFS, joey bartons tweets are more balanced that last years Antrim manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
Can you not read?
Go over my posts then from when the issues started!

I said the panel should never be declared closed - theres always room for a club player in form or an injury return.
But at the time I also said that Ryan was correct to exclude players who opted out for different reasons (ie) lack of commitment.

Sure, the door stays closed for these guys - while flexible with other factors. Thats straight-forward.

What is said was foolish - was making a blanket statement that the door was closed!
And I stand by this - after all Ryan has went against it himself!
He sais it was closed - he should have left himself the flexibility of bringing others on - whilst making the point that those who lacked commitment now would be rightly excluded for the season.

Simple - instead of taking a concrete position and now (altho I agree with adding new lads) having to go against it.

There nothing wither lazy or condescending about that.
Whats lazy is not reading the full thread, and what's condescending is you arguing from a flawed position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Flutehook on March 09, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
Sorry for off-topic intrusion. Heading up to Casement tomorrow and wondering what's best/safest place to park around there?

Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Flutehook on March 09, 2013, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 09, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
Quote from: Flutehook on March 09, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
Sorry for off-topic intrusion. Heading up to Casement tomorrow and wondering what's best/safest place to park around there?

Thanks.
Drive to the front gates and look for a spot, you'll not have much problem.

Thanks for that hs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 10, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: manballandall on March 06, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I think st galls could find it tough enough. Very young team this year with a lot of older guys injured, retired, etc. I hope I'm wrong

I hear they only had 13 for the Ulster League game yesterday against Glenariffe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 10, 2013, 11:38:17 AM
Don't think that scenario would ever be the case if it was big ball. Goin to head to casement today to get behind Kevin Ryan and his young saffron team. 

Have read a bit on here I would be dubious of how much say or use Antrim teams will get in the new ulster headquarters which will be casement park. Might be filled 2/3 times a year. At least no more traffic jams in clones, I'd say few clones publicans devastated. Many a pint had in that town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 10, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: manballandall on March 06, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
I think st galls could find it tough enough. Very young team this year with a lot of older guys injured, retired, etc. I hope I'm wrong

I hear they only had 13 for the Ulster League game yesterday against Glenariffe.

14 when I arrived lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on March 10, 2013, 03:19:14 PM
Latest:  Antrim 0-9 Dublin 3-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
Poor the day. 2 silly goals cost us big time!
Defence hurled well but the forwards were poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 10, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Thought we didn't employ any tactics against a notoriously tactical side. Industrious enough but but short on cuteness. Not sure we are at a level where we can adapt to the game as it unfolds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Was Limerick an anomaly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 10, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Thought we didn't employ any tactics against a notoriously tactical side. Industrious enough but but short on cuteness. Not sure we are at a level where we can adapt to the game as it unfolds.

We were dung, sorry I know some lads put it it, half back line were great. but a lot of lads will have to look at themselves

Ok I'm not the tallest person in the world but I've always managed to keep myself fit, slim and mobile, looking at the Dubs and what we put out was slightly embarrassing. The days of overweight and slow un-mobile players is finished. The Dubs have always had that physicality but were stronger on the ball and off it than we were!!

Is it that difficult to say to a lad to get f**king fit and then get ready for training for the county? You can have all the skill in the world and great touch but if the ball doesn't get to you then you'll never win it if you are over weight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 10, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
casement was no place to be today, the only thing worse than the cutting wind was the hurling. either limerick were very bad of our crew are pure jackal and Hyde.

Bad points to numerous to detail and that Dublin team where no big shakes. Looking like the same old league, good opening round,nothing in between then a good performance near the end to avoid relegation.  i hope)

That was bad no other word for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 10, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
Seriously disappointing today in Casement. The 2 goals we gave away were shockers. We don't look like scoring goals when we play Mc Manus out the field. Neil Mc Auley was brilliant and Mc Kinley and Graffin wern't far behind but we badly need forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
Teribble stuff, hate being negetive about the team.

Couple of points, Ryan stood on the line himself, is that what he wants? Was Dick always involved and why sit on the sub bench?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 10, 2013, 10:12:40 PM
I'm sure ryan had an ear piece in and was getting feedback from the stand. I actually believe you see more from the terraces and think more managers should do it. The question I would have is why he wasn't in the stand unless he had every confidence in what others were seeing in which case as you were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
I've got a look at the Div1 fixtures at long last - Rossa V Johnnies on the opening day! I won't miss that!

MR2 or manballandall help me out with the Div2 fixtures?
Any more news from Hannahstown?

This weekend I think we'll really run Wexford close - its a winnable game.
They've been goin backwards and we have had out two toughest tests already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2013, 01:21:59 PM
is there a full list for them yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 02:41:49 PM
I saw all the St Johns fixtures and the rest were there but I only scanned them for Belfast dates.
The Johnnies are going really well in pre-season - we'll see if they can hopefully maintain it.
Rossa will play Loughiel quite early also but I cant remember Dunloy sorry!
The Johnnies games didnt seeem too well balance between home/away but it all balances out obviously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
We begin home to Oisins and away to Dunloy. Our seniors are being rested until June, if they want to. Well earned I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
Can't argue with that - back in June plenty of time to defend championship.
League hardly an issue for that squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on March 12, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Don't think you're quite right there SIE. The fixtures I've seen have you away to Dunloy first then back to back against Rossa (7th and 17th)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on March 12, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Don't think you're quite right there SIE. The fixtures I've seen have you away to Dunloy first then back to back against Rossa (7th and 17th)
Glenariffe, Easter Monday.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
For once I might offer something to benefit this board!

If you go on the county website fixtures section - and bring up last years leagues. Then click on an individual club. You will see all their results from last year, but scroll right to the bottom and this years fixtures will appear!

Remember the date - march 12 - btdtgtt got something bang on the money!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2013, 06:51:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 06:40:27 PM
For once I might offer something to benefit this board!

If you go on the county website fixtures section - and bring up last years leagues. Then click on an individual club. You will see all their results from last year, but scroll right to the bottom and this years fixtures will appear!

Remember the date - march 12 - btdtgtt got something bang on the money!

Was told about this 2 weeks ago ffs old news, which sort of leaves me wondering..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2013, 11:27:19 PM
Ah you steal my thunder MR2?!
And you knew 2weeks ago but didn't share this info?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2013, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on March 12, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Don't think you're quite right there SIE. The fixtures I've seen have you away to Dunloy first then back to back against Rossa (7th and 17th)
Glenariffe, Easter Monday.  ;)
heard that we were home to you that day for our first game, wouldnt surprise me if its rejigged like last year to get us playing a curtain opener lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 13, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2013, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on March 12, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Don't think you're quite right there SIE. The fixtures I've seen have you away to Dunloy first then back to back against Rossa (7th and 17th)
Glenariffe, Easter Monday.  ;)
heard that we were home to you that day for our first game, wouldnt surprise me if its rejigged like last year to get us playing a curtain opener lol

According to the website we've the Oisins on the first of April, not sure if they can be in two places at once!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
It appears, upon further inquires, that we were given the wrong fixtures. We got the new fixture list just before 11 this morning. Dunloy on Easter Monday, Rossa after that. Then nothing for a month.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Just seen them there now SIE. We play each other in Easter Monday. 3.30 throw in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2013, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
It appears, upon further inquires, that we were given the wrong fixtures. We got the new fixture list just before 11 this morning. Dunloy on Easter Monday, Rossa after that. Then nothing for a month.  :o

Just in time for your seniors to play for the club again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2013, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Just seen them there now SIE. We play each other in Easter Monday. 3.30 throw in.

What is the craic with fixtures being on Easter Monday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 13, 2013, 11:52:33 AM
there's probably a round of NHL fixtures on the sunday!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2013, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 13, 2013, 11:52:33 AM
there's probably a round of NHL fixtures on the sunday!

So push them back to start the following Sunday and run them properly without breaks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2013, 12:02:06 PM
Sure everybody is off for Easter Monday anyways I'd expect.

Think I'll head to the Johnnies game (providing I'm not refereeing it lol) Good luck to that referee two headers on each line, sorry passionate headers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2013, 01:07:07 PM
thats the first 5 rounds

Cuchullains-Dunloy   Loughgiel Shamrocks   01/04/2013
Ballygalget   Glenariff Ossians   01/04/2013
St.Patricks, Portaferry   Ruairí Óg   01/04/2013
Ballycran   Mac Uilin CLG   01/04/2013
O`Donovan Rossa GAC   St John's GAC   01/04/2013
Glenariff Ossians   St John's GAC   07/04/2013
Loughgiel Shamrocks   O`Donovan Rossa GAC   07/04/2013
Ballygalget   Mac Uilin CLG   07/04/2013
Ruairí Óg   Ballycran   07/04/2013
Cuchullains-Dunloy   St.Patricks, Portaferry   07/04/2013
Glenariff Ossians   Ruairí Óg   17/04/2013
St John's GAC   Ballygalget   17/04/2013
Mac Uilin CLG   Cuchullains-Dunloy   17/04/2013
O`Donovan Rossa GAC   ballycran   17/04/2013
Ballygalget   St.Patricks, Portaferry   05/05/2013
St.Patricks, Portaferry   Glenariff Ossians   12/05/2013
Ballycran   Ballygalget   12/05/2013
Ruairí Óg   Loughgiel Shamrocks   12/05/2013
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Just seen Antrim team for sunday. Must say if we can get plenty of ball into that full forward line they have the ability to do real damage and see us through. hope the boys put last week behind them and get the win we need.

Ryan Mcgarry
Arron Graffin
Conor Carson
Mark McFadden
Simon McCrory
Neal McCauley
Conor McKinley
Matthew Donnelly
Conor Laverty
Paul Shiels
Stephen Beatty
Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Karl Stewart
Shane McNaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Just seen Antrim team for sunday. Must say if we can get plenty of ball into that full forward line they have the ability to do real damage and see us through. hope the boys put last week behind them and get the win we need.

Ryan Mcgarry
Arron Graffin
Conor Carson
Mark McFadden
Simon McCrory
Neal McCauley
Conor McKinley
Matthew Donnelly
Conor Laverty
Paul Shiels
Stephen Beatty
Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Karl Stewart
Shane McNaughton

That's the major problem (getting ball in), half back line is really decent but I'd worry about some other areas which left me bewildered on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2013, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Just seen Antrim team for sunday. Must say if we can get plenty of ball into that full forward line they have the ability to do real damage and see us through. hope the boys put last week behind them and get the win we need.

Ryan Mcgarry
Arron Graffin
Conor Carson
Mark McFadden
Simon McCrory
Neal McCauley
Conor McKinley
Matthew Donnelly
Conor Laverty
Paul Shiels
Stephen Beatty
Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Karl Stewart
Shane McNaughton

That's the major problem (getting ball in), half back line is really decent but I'd worry about some other areas which left me bewildered on Sunday

Thats why i used the word IF. same think hb line esp McAuley were v good. but 3 of the best players are all up tops. may be hard to gain possession outfield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2013, 12:04:33 AM
Looking at that team I don't think it'll line out like that or else not in the traditional 15 positions. McManus must be coming out the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 15, 2013, 12:37:16 AM
thought the same, him or shane but if we had belief we would leave the inside forward line as it is. either belief or a more experienced outfield is what we need as we beat wexford last year and now the boys seem to be more confident in the set up, so why not go for the win, go for the jugular and let them deal with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 15, 2013, 08:19:17 AM
Leaving 2 men in the full forward line backfired against Dublin, their full backs won a load of easy ball and had time to pick out a player with the clearance. Why can we not just line out properly from 1 to 15 and go and try and win the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on March 15, 2013, 05:27:22 PM
because we havent got the players, Half the Antrim are not good enough. Simple as. Be lucky if we dont get relegated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
hurlers getting stuffed again. What the squad doesn't need now is anyone else coming into the squad because its a good, happy,  tight unit.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2013, 03:34:49 PM
2-21 to 1-12. Seemed to be reasonably tight at half-time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 16, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
hurlers getting stuffed again. What the squad doesn't need now is anyone else coming into the squad because its a good, happy,  tight unit.  ::)

Hurlers getting beat and you think the solution to them not getting beat is to bow and scrape to individuals who have already been asked?  :-\

Did no one tell you it not all about the winning? Can you not separate principles from club allegiance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 16, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
hurlers getting stuffed again. What the squad doesn't need now is anyone else coming into the squad because its a good, happy,  tight unit.  ::)

Hurlers getting beat and you think the solution to them not getting beat is to bow and scrape to individuals who have already been asked?  :-\

Did no one tell you it not all about the winning? Can you not separate principles from club allegiance?
Perhaps that's the difference between you and me Skull, where I sit it is all about the winning. What's the point otherwise? Maybe that's why we've had the success we've had as a club, different mentality.  ;)

Ryan ploughed his trough when he told our players they had to train with the county even though they were still in the AI at that time if they wanted to be considered for the panel. Mental. he's retreated backwards on that more times than enough. And also when the county captain gives interviews like he did a few weeks ago in the press, and his and his club mates childish antics on and off field last year left a lot to be desired , you need to look as to why some fellas don't feel welcome within the current Antrim fold. And you seem to think I'm referring to one player. He's made it clear he's not available this year. I expect no one to bow to anyone, that's the point.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 16, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
hurlers getting stuffed again. What the squad doesn't need now is anyone else coming into the squad because its a good, happy,  tight unit.  ::)

Hurlers getting beat and you think the solution to them not getting beat is to bow and scrape to individuals who have already been asked?  :-\

Did no one tell you it not all about the winning? Can you not separate principles from club allegiance?
Perhaps that's the difference between you and me Skull, where I sit it is all about the winning. What's the point otherwise? Maybe that's why we've had the success we've had as a club, different mentality.  ;)

Ryan ploughed his trough when he told our players they had to train with the county even though they were still in the AI at that time if they wanted to be considered for the panel. Mental. he's retreated backwards on that more times than enough. And also when the county captain gives interviews like he did a few weeks ago in the press, and his and his club mates childish antics on and off field last year left a lot to be desired , you need to look as to why some fellas don't feel welcome within the current Antrim fold. And you seem to think I'm referring to one player. He's made it clear he's not available this year. I expect no one to bow to anyone, that's the point.
:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on March 16, 2013, 05:11:18 PM
Seems like the truth hurts a lot of people. SIE you are 100% correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 16, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
hurlers getting stuffed again. What the squad doesn't need now is anyone else coming into the squad because its a good, happy,  tight unit.  ::)

Hurlers getting beat and you think the solution to them not getting beat is to bow and scrape to individuals who have already been asked?  :-\

Did no one tell you it not all about the winning? Can you not separate principles from club allegiance?
Perhaps that's the difference between you and me Skull, where I sit it is all about the winning. What's the point otherwise? Maybe that's why we've had the success we've had as a club, different mentality.  ;)

Ryan ploughed his trough when he told our players they had to train with the county even though they were still in the AI at that time if they wanted to be considered for the panel. Mental. he's retreated backwards on that more times than enough. And also when the county captain gives interviews like he did a few weeks ago in the press, and his and his club mates childish antics on and off field last year left a lot to be desired , you need to look as to why some fellas don't feel welcome within the current Antrim fold. And you seem to think I'm referring to one player. He's made it clear he's not available this year. I expect no one to bow to anyone, that's the point.
:-X

I'm sure there are many clubs that have lads that are very childish.

While I would love my club to win every competition they play in, I want Antrim hurling to improve overall and that won't happen when people throw their dummies out. I've never known an Antrim team to have so much disharmony in it. It really is annoying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2013, 05:18:15 PM
Goal straight after half time seemed to kill it off today. Will be doing well to stay up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
Jealousy has a big part play in it mr2.

On another note, I hear the biddies beat oisins in a friendly today. Big win for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 05:34:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
Jealousy has a big part play in it mr2.

On another note, I hear the biddies beat oisins in a friendly today. Big win for them.

That may be the case but what happens in a club should not cross over when representing Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 05:43:09 PM
I agree 100% .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2013, 06:49:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
Jealousy has a big part play in it mr2.

On another note, I hear the biddies beat oisins in a friendly today. Big win for them.

I heard it was abandoned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 07:09:00 PM
So I  just heard a while ago. Heard oisins couldn't handle being beat by Cloughmills. Any truth minder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 16, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 07:09:00 PM
So I  just heard a while ago. Heard oisins couldn't handle being beat by Cloughmills. Any truth minder?

I wouldn't have thought they would be that bothered about a friendly. I heard it got very niggly from both teams and the ref, from Cushendall, couldn't be arsed with it and abandoned it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 07:27:35 PM
fair enough. I heard it from a biddies man. He said yis got dirty after it looked like they were gonna win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 16, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
Jealousy has a big part play in it mr2.

On another note, I hear the biddies beat oisins in a friendly today. Big win for them.

You know theres such a thing as bad winners as well as bad losers sie or are you avoiding that reality? At least be balanced. Some LG players have also rathceted up the tention as they've enjoyed their all Ireland victory. Most have not, but the rabble always make the headlines. Unbelievable behaviour from well seasoned players  from other clubs. All pretty sickening from all parties. But hey I'm sure after the 5 in a row I'm sure many in Lgiel reckon the rest of N Antrim is good medicine for it....whether you want to admit that or not it contributes to the malaise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 09:12:59 PM
With all due respect skull, we've been listening to some bad winners from over the shough and orra for 22 years. Get over yourself.

what has happened over the last 18 months has been a brilliant advert for Antrim hurling. We win the All Ireland and we get unreserved praise from all over Ireland , apart from a 20 square mile radius from our own parish. that says it all Skull.

It was the same in '83. We beat a team with 2 all stars. What did we get? " yis didnt bring it over the border". "yis didnt win it in croker".

aye, seriously "the border".  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 09:12:59 PM
With all due respect skull, we've been listening to some bad winners from over the shough and orra for 22 years. Get over yourself.

what has happened over the last 18 months has been a brilliant advert for Antrim hurling. We win the All Ireland and we get unreserved praise from all over Ireland , apart from a 20 square mile radius from our own parish. that says it all Skull.

It was the same in '83. We beat a team with 2 all stars. What did we get? " yis didnt bring it over the border". "yis didnt win it in croker".

aye, seriously "the border".  ;D

as dignified as always.
what a load of dribble you have just spat out there, your club got congratulated from most Antrim clubs on this board. what ever begrudgery  was directed towards you(there was some) is a by-product of the mindset and attitude that has come from yourselves prior to recent success. I normally restrain myself when it comes to these things but you took a county debate and turn it into an unprovoked attack on my club. your keeping a long tradition going here of nothing but disrespect  for everyone whether you are winning all Irelands or in the doldrums.
back to the original subject, you have been lambasting the current manager on here at every given opportunity while as far as i can see some LG players have rejoined the squad and on selector is from LG.
your right about one thing its about winning no one said any different, but truth be told your real agenda is about one player here and  I can tell you this. Brian Cody knows more about winning than you of me in this sport and he wouldn't have your mate about the place as it would be detrimental to the work ethic and discipline required to succeed.

What a load of unprovoked dribble from a poster that up until now was doing his best to gain respect for LG from posting with manners and perspective.

well done your opinions are now in the trash can where they belong and don't start these post with ''all due respect''when you mean nothing of the sort
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
The truth hurts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
The truth hurts.

you referring to my post our yours with that. only thing hurt is your reputation.Ill be ok as will Dunloy no matter what musings some cyber hurler is ranting on a forum board.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 16, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Well said North Antrim Hound.

I wish they would play a dozen of the Loughgiel players for Antrim and we would see they are no better than what is already there, but it's easier not to commit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
All very embarrassing :(

Hopefully once the leagues start we could have something constructive to chat about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
The truth hurts.

you referring to my post our yours with that. only thing hurt is your reputation.Ill be ok as will Dunloy no matter what musings some cyber hurler is ranting on a forum board.
My reputation is neither here nor there, I post the truth. It would do you all well to do the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
All very embarrassing :(

Hopefully once the leagues start we could have something constructive to chat about

agreed but nothing wrong with debating the county Mr2, I only came on here to get reports from wexford and see who played well or bad. how are your lads going, whats the word from the city. I here jonty putting in a big effort with St Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
The truth hurts.

you referring to my post our yours with that. only thing hurt is your reputation.Ill be ok as will Dunloy no matter what musings some cyber hurler is ranting on a forum board.
My reputation is neither here nor there, I post the truth. It would do you all well to do the same.

pathetic      now we are all liars.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
All very embarrassing :(

Hopefully once the leagues start we could have something constructive to chat about

agreed but nothing wrong with debating the county Mr2, I only came on here to get reports from wexford and see who played well or bad. how are your lads going, whats the word from the city. I here jonty putting in a big effort with St Johns

By all accounts Jonty will have the Johnnies going well, I hope I'm not refereeing his games ffs!! be mental listening to the line. Rossa putting in a great pre season also and Sarsfields will be the major players in Div 2 i think, Kevo has the lads training and playing a lot of games pre season, the under 21's they have have finally matured I think so they will win Intermediate this year and possibly pip us for the Div 2 title.

We will push hard and with Loughgiel in Belfast I know the lads are looking forward to it (perversely) so all good. Think the championship will be hard this year, Loughgiel are justified favourites but will get it tighter this year but should prevale
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
The truth hurts.

you referring to my post our yours with that. only thing hurt is your reputation.Ill be ok as will Dunloy no matter what musings some cyber hurler is ranting on a forum board.
My reputation is neither here nor there, I post the truth. It would do you all well to do the same.
Started the St. Patrick's celebrations early? Can be the only reason for one of the most idiotic comments on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 17, 2013, 12:50:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
All very embarrassing :(

Hopefully once the leagues start we could have something constructive to chat about

agreed but nothing wrong with debating the county Mr2, I only came on here to get reports from wexford and see who played well or bad. how are your lads going, whats the word from the city. I here jonty putting in a big effort with St Johns

By all accounts Jonty will have the Johnnies going well, I hope I'm not refereeing his games ffs!! be mental listening to the line. Rossa putting in a great pre season also and Sarsfields will be the major players in Div 2 i think, Kevo has the lads training and playing a lot of games pre season, the under 21's they have have finally matured I think so they will win Intermediate this year and possibly pip us for the Div 2 title.

We will push hard and with Loughgiel in Belfast I know the lads are looking forward to it (perversely) so all good. Think the championship will be hard this year, Loughgiel are justified favourites but will get it tighter this year but should prevale

yeah LG favourites for sure and gunning for 4 in a row but there's a lot of hard miles on the clock. good to here kevos lads are going well. 3 years ago during the first winter( January) dunloy indoor opened we arranged a challenge match with his then  minors. but all that heavy snow set in and we didn't expect them to show up, driving conditions where so bad but they showed up in a bus,   light on numbers but we had a game. He's a real hurling man through and through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 17, 2013, 12:54:17 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2013, 07:09:00 PM
So I  just heard a while ago. Heard oisins couldn't handle being beat by Cloughmills. Any truth minder?

I wouldn't have thought they would be that bothered about a friendly. I heard it got very niggly from both teams and the ref, from Cushendall, couldn't be arsed with it and abandoned it.

Heard pretty much exactly the same, that Oisins were missing 6/7 and that Tosh was managing/on sideline. Has he quit playing?
Can't imagine either team would read much into it.

This thread has gone to the dogs.
Petty oneupmanship and point scoring...he said/she said.
If that is the way it flows through to our club rivalry on and off the field then our county has little hope of progressing.
Club hurling in other 'hurling' counties you'd get cut to shreds in a match but somehow they leave it behind or put it on the back burner for the greater good.
You don't have to like your teammate but at least some semblance of respect should be given.
I might or others might over dramatise this rivalry thing and it may very well be the case that we just don't have enough hurlers who are top drawer but we don't half shoot ourselves in the foot year on year:

Jingo canned after a respectable tenure

Sambo and Woody crucified for various reasons when regardless of personalties two more committed men it would be hard to find

Dinny...that one word gives me the shivers. He brought us on, left..was foolish enough to come back and was dumped. So he tried to put it up to Cork before a game we were never really going to win/favourites for...it back fired. Foolish...perhaps but trying to give a bit of self belief to players...fair play.

Jerry Wallis/Wallace completely imploding - I recall widespread happiness when he was appointed, across the board particularly by players...he did appear to go off the rails but are people foolish enough not to believe people within this county/we had no remote input into this?!

Ryan - he tries to set a stall out, perhaps slightly misguided on being so public about it and maybe too hard a line with the Loughgiel initial stance (arguably more in ignorance not having dealt with a club training for the AI before) but setting out a stall in some shape or form is exactly what we need. I think players are impressed by him and the training. He seems to emphasise physicality which is ONE OF the big things we lack in comparison to our friends in the south...how long will he last before he is ousted, his position made untenable, there is disquiet in the dressing room...any or all of the above - not much of a betting man but would lay a fair bit on this.


We must look like some fair eejits from the outside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 17, 2013, 01:12:27 AM
Has one man not kicked the shit stirring off or am I myopic?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on March 17, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
Watson should be on the county panel. End of, No arguement. Best forward in Ulster by a mile. He wasnt asked. FACT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 17, 2013, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on March 17, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
Watson should be on the county panel. End of, No arguement. Best forward in Ulster by a mile. He wasnt asked. FACT

McManus has been a far more reliable, impressive & consistent performer for Antrim than Watson.

Oh and before you start harking back to Watson against Cork a few years ago, we have heard it before and it was ONE game, which is starting to look like an anomaly in his Antrim career.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 17, 2013, 10:10:56 AM
Saffrongael, the Cork game a few years ago when he got sent off with about 10 mins to go when we were 4 points down with a chance to beat Cork? That game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on March 17, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
mc manus is a glorified free taker. Explain what he has ever done for antrim

What has the cork game got to do with watson being asked onto the antrim panel

Ask anyone from the south who would they want on their team watson or mc manus


simple answer watson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2013, 11:23:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
All very embarrassing :(

Hopefully once the leagues start we could have something constructive to chat about

agreed but nothing wrong with debating the county Mr2, I only came on here to get reports from wexford and see who played well or bad. how are your lads going, whats the word from the city. I here jonty putting in a big effort with St Johns

By all accounts Jonty will have the Johnnies going well, I hope I'm not refereeing his games ffs!! be mental listening to the line. Rossa putting in a great pre season also and Sarsfields will be the major players in Div 2 i think, Kevo has the lads training and playing a lot of games pre season, the under 21's they have have finally matured I think so they will win Intermediate this year and possibly pip us for the Div 2 title.

We will push hard and with Loughgiel in Belfast I know the lads are looking forward to it (perversely) so all good. Think the championship will be hard this year, Loughgiel are justified favourites but will get it tighter this year but should prevale

They arranged a challenge game either last week or the weekend before not sure which - but I am sure that neither side got 15 men.
Ominous?
Johnnies are going at it hammer and tongs.
Lamh dearg no manager and very few players?

Not like you to play down galls prospects MR2! Hit the sarcasm button!
For me the galls v sarsfields games will be great watching hopefully good advertisements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 17, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
Not this year I fear. I hope I am proved wrong but feel we could struggle this year a bit with quite a young team which will lack a bit of experience. The young ones are good, very good in fact, but may take them a year or 2 to find their feet. As of yet we haven't had half a full team together with injuries, colleges etc and at this stage of the year I think could be costly in the first few games of the year. Time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 17, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
Watson talented no doubt. In cork game he could have easily be sent off in first five minutes.  Watson would carry more goal threat from frees. Mc manus more of all rounder probably. Two different players though.  Either way mc manus has contributed more to county. As he is committed. Would like to see them both on the team. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2013, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on March 17, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
Not this year I fear. I hope I am proved wrong but feel we could struggle this year a bit with quite a young team which will lack a bit of experience. The young ones are good, very good in fact, but may take them a year or 2 to find their feet. As of yet we haven't had half a full team together with injuries, colleges etc and at this stage of the year I think could be costly in the first few games of the year. Time will tell

I really would like to see galls give hurling a real go - but understand the difficulties given the success in football.
The dual clubs are condemned in this respect.
Still my pick to go up however. Sarsfields limited numbers will result in a bad spell during the summer. Any news from the gorts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
I fancy kk today by 5 or 6 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 17, 2013, 02:38:43 PM
Gorts from what I hear have had a serious exodus of players, a few to rossa and a few to o donnells.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on March 17, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
mc manus is a glorified free taker. Explain what he has ever done for antrim

What has the cork game got to do with watson being asked onto the antrim panel

Ask anyone from the south who would they want on their team watson or mc manus


simple answer watson
as a fan of neither if theres one player in this debate who wants to cop himself on and who has only ever teased us with his potential then its LW.  He has treated the game with contempt for too long!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 17, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: tom moore83 on March 17, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
mc manus is a glorified free taker. Explain what he has ever done for antrim

What has the cork game got to do with watson being asked onto the antrim panel

Ask anyone from the south who would they want on their team watson or mc manus


simple answer watson
as a fan of neither if theres one player in this debate who wants to cop himself on and who has only ever teased us with his potential then its LW.  He has treated the game with contempt for too long!

If you think all mcmanus has ever done for antrim is hit a few frees then i think it's very unlikely you know very much about hurling! Wise up.

This thread is getting embarassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 17, 2013, 06:31:13 PM
Scrapy enough in croker today. Thought St Thomas would have won by more. Is it just me or did the pitch look poor?   Poor reds also. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
not like me to agree with you but poor pitch poor match and defo the first red for a weak slap on the elbow was again poor. Match was bad because of conditions, as on their day they seem to be two very good teams, because of this it lacked anything memorable. of all the Semis and finals this year the watson 21 yard free in the drawn game was the only spark. think the smaller clubs getting through made it hard (esp Final) to really get a Big Match day feel about it.... Only mw?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
not like me to agree with you but poor pitch poor match and defo the first red for a weak slap on the elbow was again poor. Match was bad because of conditions, as on their day they seem to be two very good teams, because of this it lacked anything memorable. of all the Semis and finals this year the watson 21 yard free in the drawn game was the only spark. think the smaller clubs getting through made it hard (esp Final) to really get a Big Match day feel about it.... Only mw?????

With the two Dub games played on a heavy pitch the night before it was always going to be a shit pitch.

They aren't small clubs now I suppose and I don't think that will be the last we'll see of St'Thomas's. Both semi finals were great games, K-K were outstanding against Thurles who weren't allowed to showcase their obvious skills
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
not like me to agree with you but poor pitch poor match and defo the first red for a weak slap on the elbow was again poor. Match was bad because of conditions, as on their day they seem to be two very good teams, because of this it lacked anything memorable. of all the Semis and finals this year the watson 21 yard free in the drawn game was the only spark. think the smaller clubs getting through made it hard (esp Final) to really get a Big Match day feel about it.... Only mw?????

With the two Dub games played on a heavy pitch the night before it was always going to be a shit pitch.

They aren't small clubs now I suppose and I don't think that will be the last we'll see of St'Thomas's. Both semi finals were great games, K-K were outstanding against Thurles who weren't allowed to showcase their obvious skills

I would agree with that.
Maybe it is changing times - we've recently seen the Athenry/Birr & several Clare sides drop down the order in favour of Portumna and Ballyhale for example. Perhaps now another shift is happening.
Club teams are never going to stay at the top as long as county sides - its a different animal.
After all - our club sides generally fare much better in All-Ireland semis than the county team!
Whats the club finals did show for me however was the enduring appeal of club hurling (and football).
So without sounding like a broken record - I think the GAA need to give it more prominence in the calender.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2013, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 20, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
not like me to agree with you but poor pitch poor match and defo the first red for a weak slap on the elbow was again poor. Match was bad because of conditions, as on their day they seem to be two very good teams, because of this it lacked anything memorable. of all the Semis and finals this year the watson 21 yard free in the drawn game was the only spark. think the smaller clubs getting through made it hard (esp Final) to really get a Big Match day feel about it.... Only mw?????

With the two Dub games played on a heavy pitch the night before it was always going to be a shit pitch.

They aren't small clubs now I suppose and I don't think that will be the last we'll see of St'Thomas's. Both semi finals were great games, K-K were outstanding against Thurles who weren't allowed to showcase their obvious skills

I would agree with that.
Maybe it is changing times - we've recently seen the Athenry/Birr & several Clare sides drop down the order in favour of Portumna and Ballyhale for example. Perhaps now another shift is happening.
Club teams are never going to stay at the top as long as county sides - its a different animal.
After all - our club sides generally fare much better in All-Ireland semis than the county team!
Whats the club finals did show for me however was the enduring appeal of club hurling (and football).
So without sounding like a broken record - I think the GAA need to give it more prominence in the calender.

You wont see the dominance of the big clubs any longer because the demand on their players is so intense, if some of these teams have a young joe canning, he is going to be playing ball for college, county and club and that eventually will take its toll on the club, stopping them from dominating in maybe the way they could have previously.

Also emigration is having massive impact on clubs in the south and is probably one of the major factors as to why there has been maybe a slight drop in the standard of teams progressing in the past 3-4 years. (Not intended in any way as a dig to any one)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 20, 2013, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 20, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 20, 2013, 01:13:16 AM
not like me to agree with you but poor pitch poor match and defo the first red for a weak slap on the elbow was again poor. Match was bad because of conditions, as on their day they seem to be two very good teams, because of this it lacked anything memorable. of all the Semis and finals this year the watson 21 yard free in the drawn game was the only spark. think the smaller clubs getting through made it hard (esp Final) to really get a Big Match day feel about it.... Only mw?????

With the two Dub games played on a heavy pitch the night before it was always going to be a shit pitch.

They aren't small clubs now I suppose and I don't think that will be the last we'll see of St'Thomas's. Both semi finals were great games, K-K were outstanding against Thurles who weren't allowed to showcase their obvious skills

I would agree with that.
Maybe it is changing times - we've recently seen the Athenry/Birr & several Clare sides drop down the order in favour of Portumna and Ballyhale for example. Perhaps now another shift is happening.
Club teams are never going to stay at the top as long as county sides - its a different animal.
After all - our club sides generally fare much better in All-Ireland semis than the county team!
Whats the club finals did show for me however was the enduring appeal of club hurling (and football).
So without sounding like a broken record - I think the GAA need to give it more prominence in the calender.

You wont see the dominance of the big clubs any longer because the demand on their players is so intense, if some of these teams have a young joe canning, he is going to be playing ball for college, county and club and that eventually will take its toll on the club, stopping them from dominating in maybe the way they could have previously.

Also emigration is having massive impact on clubs in the south and is probably one of the major factors as to why there has been maybe a slight drop in the standard of teams progressing in the past 3-4 years. (Not intended in any way as a dig to any one)

Emigration probably a factor but it's swings and roundabouts, these big clubs will still win their county championships every so often. After Loughgiel lose they will rebuild and have another crack at it. In the meantime Cushendall, Ballycastle may dominate along with Dunloy for a period.

We won't keep winning the football and Cross will eventually lose out in Armagh but will come back again for sure. Kilmacud and Ballyboden will win in Dublin and Ballyhale, James Stephens will be winning county titles soon enough in Kilkenny.

Plenty more examples I don't think the standard has dropped though. The speed of hurling and the fitness levels have improved, the football final was as good as it gets so it's improved also. I we watch a club final of ten plus years ago I'd say it's the same standard or better now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 21, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
spot on MR2. every club has its cycles. we had ours for a period as did cushendall. lgiel are the form team but that wont last as players move on its not as easy to replace them.

it will be someone else, maybe ballycastle? who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
spot on MR2. every club has its cycles. we had ours for a period as did cushendall. lgiel are the form team but that wont last as players move on its not as easy to replace them.

it will be someone else, maybe ballycastle? who knows

Prior to Dunloys senior domination was a juvenile domination as well for a good few years, Loughgeil had it for a few years as well. St Johns have one set of players who have dominated to an extent at U-14 to minor, but one group is never enough to make an impact at senior level. It needs to be sustained and it's hard to sustain the work required at juvenile level as the true rewards won't be seen for several years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Prior to Dunloys senior domination was a juvenile domination as well for a good few years, Loughgeil had it for a few years as well. St Johns have one set of players who have dominated to an extent at U-14 to minor, but one group is never enough to make an impact at senior level. It needs to be sustained and it's hard to sustain the work required at juvenile level as the true rewards won't be seen for several years.


The johnnies have had a fairly good record at minor level going back a fair few years JC. I'm sure they're trying to address the hemorrhaging that takes place between 18 and 21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2013, 10:41:45 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Prior to Dunloys senior domination was a juvenile domination as well for a good few years, Loughgeil had it for a few years as well. St Johns have one set of players who have dominated to an extent at U-14 to minor, but one group is never enough to make an impact at senior level. It needs to be sustained and it's hard to sustain the work required at juvenile level as the true rewards won't be seen for several years.


The johnnies have had a fairly good record at minor level going back a fair few years JC. I'm sure they're trying to address the hemorrhaging drinking that takes place between 18 and 21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 21, 2013, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 21, 2013, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Prior to Dunloys senior domination was a juvenile domination as well for a good few years, Loughgeil had it for a few years as well. St Johns have one set of players who have dominated to an extent at U-14 to minor, but one group is never enough to make an impact at senior level. It needs to be sustained and it's hard to sustain the work required at juvenile level as the true rewards won't be seen for several years.


The johnnies have had a fairly good record at minor level going back a fair few years JC. I'm sure they're trying to address the hemorrhaging that takes place between 18 and 21
1981, 2004, 2011, 2012

They were also runners up in 03, 05 and 2010 so they have been in 6 of the last 10 county minor finals.

Ballycastle dominated N Antrim underage hurling in the 70s which translated in to senior titles in the 70's and 80's. Dunloy dominated underage in the 80's and had another Feile title in the early 90's and look what they translated that in to at senior. L'giel won minor and u21 titles at the start of the 2000's and are now the senior champions. Senior hurling is cyclical but the basis of senior success comes from sustained hard work at underage level. Unless your St Johns.........but that may change????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 22, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
i rem playing up through the grades and st pauls were the team to beat. we had some hard games with them through the years and they produced some great players. tho its the progression to senior level that killed it.
ourselves and lgiel  played and beat each other alot through my time from u12 to u21. i have played 2 U16 finals against them and 3 u21 finals. of the two teams through those grades a vast majority on our team has antrim and ulster medals and the same for lgiel eg. liam & paddy richmond, DD Quinn and Paul Gillan to name a few.
you dont have to dominate at each level but if you can bring 4-5 players a season into your senior panel to blood them in and eventually phase older players out then you can have a continued degree of sucess.
but its getting the right mix of youth and experience and not holding onto players for too ling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 22, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
i rem playing up through the grades and st pauls were the team to beat. we had some hard games with them through the years and they produced some great players. tho its the progression to senior level that killed it.
ourselves and lgiel  played and beat each other alot through my time from u12 to u21. i have played 2 U16 finals against them and 3 u21 finals. of the two teams through those grades a vast majority on our team has antrim and ulster medals and the same for lgiel eg. liam & paddy richmond, DD Quinn and Paul Gillan to name a few.
you dont have to dominate at each level but if you can bring 4-5 players a season into your senior panel to blood them in and eventually phase older players out then you can have a continued degree of sucess.
but its getting the right mix of youth and experience and not holding onto players for too ling

The bit I've in bold means a lot, you can have great juvenile teams and they may win doubles (football hurling) right through from under 12 to minor but if the senior team is in say the 3rd division or is mainly a football club then the difficulty is ensuring the progression to senior grade is actually having a senior team with aspirations of being a senior club in the senior championship!! That's having a plan or having tradition, Loughgiel, Ballycastle, Cushendall (80's onwards) Dunloy (90's onwards) for the rest Rossa and the Johnnies they have to a certain extent faltered in this. Ourselves St Paul's Sarsfields and a couple of other North Antrim clubs will every so often push a bigger club, pushing and winning are two different things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2013, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 22, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
i rem playing up through the grades and st pauls were the team to beat. we had some hard games with them through the years and they produced some great players. tho its the progression to senior level that killed it.
ourselves and lgiel  played and beat each other alot through my time from u12 to u21. i have played 2 U16 finals against them and 3 u21 finals. of the two teams through those grades a vast majority on our team has antrim and ulster medals and the same for lgiel eg. liam & paddy richmond, DD Quinn and Paul Gillan to name a few.
you dont have to dominate at each level but if you can bring 4-5 players a season into your senior panel to blood them in and eventually phase older players out then you can have a continued degree of sucess.
but its getting the right mix of youth and experience and not holding onto players for too ling

The bit I've in bold means a lot, you can have great juvenile teams and they may win doubles (football hurling) right through from under 12 to minor but if the senior team is in say the 3rd division or is mainly a football club then the difficulty is ensuring the progression to senior grade is actually having a senior team with aspirations of being a senior club in the senior championship!! That's having a plan or having tradition, Loughgiel, Ballycastle, Cushendall (80's onwards) Dunloy (90's onwards) for the rest Rossa and the Johnnies they have to a certain extent faltered in this. Ourselves St Paul's Sarsfields and a couple of other North Antrim clubs will every so often push a bigger club, pushing and winning are two different things

I dont disagree with any of this but I will bore you again with my dual club reasoning!
It can be acheived an underage when kids might play 7days a week - but its not feasible at senior. Note the clubs MR2 mentions are predominantly one code for success, and dual clubs less successful.
That said, the overwhelming point remains as you lads stated - bridging the gap between minor and senior without lsoing players - if any club can crack it they would be the first!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.

Was thrown in at the same age Johnny, Under 16 and played first senior Championship game against Sarsfields!! That was grizzly and played it at the Bear Pit too FFS!!

Did me no harm and I still play 25 years on!! Kids are pussy's now :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.

Was thrown in at the same age Johnny, Under 16 and played first senior Championship game against Sarsfields!! That was grizzly and played it at the Bear Pit too FFS!!

Did me no harm and I still play 25 years on!! Kids are pussy's now :o

There's a different breed nowadays MR2 not many real men about!
The old "shut yer **** and get on with it" doesn't get much of an airing now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 22, 2013, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on March 21, 2013, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 21, 2013, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
Prior to Dunloys senior domination was a juvenile domination as well for a good few years, Loughgeil had it for a few years as well. St Johns have one set of players who have dominated to an extent at U-14 to minor, but one group is never enough to make an impact at senior level. It needs to be sustained and it's hard to sustain the work required at juvenile level as the true rewards won't be seen for several years.


The johnnies have had a fairly good record at minor level going back a fair few years JC. I'm sure they're trying to address the hemorrhaging that takes place between 18 and 21
1981, 2004, 2011, 2012

They were also runners up in 03, 05 and 2010 so they have been in 6 of the last 10 county minor finals.

Ballycastle dominated N Antrim underage hurling in the 70s which translated in to senior titles in the 70's and 80's. Dunloy dominated underage in the 80's and had another Feile title in the early 90's and look what they translated that in to at senior. L'giel won minor and u21 titles at the start of the 2000's and are now the senior champions. Senior hurling is cyclical but the basis of senior success comes from sustained hard work at underage level. Unless your St Johns.........but that may change????

Dosent always work that way, just playin Devils advocate but who won nearlly all minor titles in the 90's?

but only got 1 senior title out of it?

Good underage helps but ity is the managment of people from 17 to 22 years of age that will develop the person into a senior hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 22, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.

dont think its a great thing these days or even in the oul days, played balltgalget at 15 years of age and lined marty coulter, got a lesson, was grand but by 22 had enough lessons and beatings to do me and was a bit fed up/burnt out with it. some might say that that comes with the game but i think if everyone thought of the underage players who left the game i would be in the majourity. exceptional kids will always be the exception but for the rest 17/18 on the reserves wouldnt be a bad thing. you never want a kid to grt fed up with hurlin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 22, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 22, 2013, 11:40:02 PM
That said, winning senior teams don't come out of nowhere. Rossa had a mixture of great and shite underage teams. Some didn't want to have anything to do with a team who was weaker. The likes of Loughgiel have been there or thereabouts every single year. Their current players are drawn off about 10 different underage teams.

It's been a long time since Ballycastle have won a championship. Down to underage structures?

Think they still won bout 7 out of 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 22, 2013, 11:40:02 PM
That said, winning senior teams don't come out of nowhere. Rossa had a mixture of great and shite underage teams. Some didn't want to have anything to do with a team who was weaker. The likes of Loughgiel have been there or thereabouts every single year. Their current players are drawn off about 10 different underage teams.

It's been a long time since Ballycastle have won a championship. Down to underage structures?

The Town managed to win a couple of under 21's But they had a team that during the 80's that was something else, the lads that played on that team were unreal, remember thinking to myself at the time that these lads will never get bate!!

Rossa won a handful of minors and St Johns won and lost a few finals but once they move on to the senior set up and it's poor, then they will fall into that trap, if they move on to a team that has aspirations to win senior and do then it's so much different. We (Naomh Gall) only need to bring on a few lads every year to make a difference mainly because they are walking on to a senior championship winning team.

For us it's great, it drives on our development of the juveniles and while we haven't won a few underage trophies lately I'm not particular worried, cause we will have 2/3 lads that will be proper seniors once they get to senior, very rarely do you get 15 cracking players that stay together right through to senior, that's the key!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 23, 2013, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 22, 2013, 11:40:02 PM
That said, winning senior teams don't come out of nowhere. Rossa had a mixture of great and shite underage teams. Some didn't want to have anything to do with a team who was weaker. The likes of Loughgiel have been there or thereabouts every single year. Their current players are drawn off about 10 different underage teams.

It's been a long time since Ballycastle have won a championship. Down to underage structures?

The Town managed to win a couple of under 21's But they had a team that during the 80's that was something else, the lads that played on that team were unreal, remember thinking to myself at the time that these lads will never get bate!!

Rossa won a handful of minors and St Johns won and lost a few finals but once they move on to the senior set up and it's poor, then they will fall into that trap, if they move on to a team that has aspirations to win senior and do then it's so much different. We (Naomh Gall) only need to bring on a few lads every year to make a difference mainly because they are walking on to a senior championship winning team.

For us it's great, it drives on our development of the juveniles and while we haven't won a few underage trophies lately I'm not particular worried, cause we will have 2/3 lads that will be proper seniors once they get to senior, very rarely do you get 15 cracking players that stay together right through to senior, that's the key!!

are you talking Hurling or Football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2013, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 22, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.

dont think its a great thing these days or even in the oul days, played balltgalget at 15 years of age and lined marty coulter, got a lesson, was grand but by 22 had enough lessons and beatings to do me and was a bit fed up/burnt out with it. some might say that that comes with the game but i think if everyone thought of the underage players who left the game i would be in the majourity. exceptional kids will always be the exception but for the rest 17/18 on the reserves wouldnt be a bad thing. you never want a kid to grt fed up with hurlin.

It's how you dealt with the lessons and came back. Marked Coulter, Sands, Elliot, Murphy, Chopper, marked Dessie a couple of times, marked Clute for years (got skint every time ffs) tried stopping Tosh and and a host of others, some you held scoreless some you got whipped off after half time, wasn't exceptional but never tired of playing hurling or football.

Looking back it was the norm and that's that, as said already plenty of older ones looked after you, two incidents stand out, running in on goal at 16 years of age in a make or break league match against Rossa, can't remember getting hit but ended up in the net and a lot of shoving happening same against the Crans and doing nets, same age and Blaney charging in on goal, put ball and me into Kirkcubbin!! The older lads got stuck in and those things drove us on, oh I wish I was 16 again, do it all over again.

Football Grizzy, the last part but it's about clubs and how the cycle goes, the Johnnies are a football team they wiil be back ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 23, 2013, 12:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2013, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 22, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 22, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
What's the thoughts in putting 16 year olds etc into adult hurling?

We'll be bleeding a lot of lads just out of U-16's in reserve hurling this year, with the better ones thrown in at senior level this year as needs must, but I remember playing adult hurling when I was just out of U-14, but that was the norm back then as the club made the decision to start a thirds team to ensure a lot of the lads the same age as me had plenty of hurling rather than drift away due to lack of games between U16 and minor.

The only child protection you had then was the luxury of playing beside some grizzly old lad who'd hung up the senior boots a few years previous.

dont think its a great thing these days or even in the oul days, played balltgalget at 15 years of age and lined marty coulter, got a lesson, was grand but by 22 had enough lessons and beatings to do me and was a bit fed up/burnt out with it. some might say that that comes with the game but i think if everyone thought of the underage players who left the game i would be in the majourity. exceptional kids will always be the exception but for the rest 17/18 on the reserves wouldnt be a bad thing. you never want a kid to grt fed up with hurlin.

It's how you dealt with the lessons and came back. Marked Coulter, Sands, Elliot, Murphy, Chopper, marked Dessie a couple of times, marked Clute for years (got skint every time ffs) tried stopping Tosh and and a host of others, some you held scoreless some you got whipped off after half time, wasn't exceptional but never tired of playing hurling or football.

Looking back it was the norm and that's that, as said already plenty of older ones looked after you, two incidents stand out, running in on goal at 16 years of age in a make or break league match against Rossa, can't remember getting hit but ended up in the net and a lot of shoving happening same against the Crans and doing nets, same age and Blaney charging in on goal, put ball and me into Kirkcubbin!! The older lads got stuck in and those things drove us on, oh I wish I was 16 again, do it all over again.

Football Grizzy, the last part but it's about clubs and how the cycle goes, the Johnnies are a football team they wiil be back ;)

Understand, marked a lot of the above as well, dont think Jonty would want jonnies to be labelled as a football club, think he might prove what i had been saying as true, a manager that knows the young players and can push them without pushing them away, trophy wise they may win fu@k all for the next few years but if they are all still playin in 3/4 years they will win somthin, as much as it may hurt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 23, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
If youre good enough, youre old enough was the well used phrase. Very few are good enough at 16 for senior. So far all I can think of in no particular order is ally elliott, mill town and jc  ;D

Anybody that had 'the pleasure' of marking cloot knows why he is held in such high esteem in hurling circles. He was a wizard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 23, 2013, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 23, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
If youre good enough, youre old enough was the well used phrase. Very few are good enough at 16 for senior. So far all I can think of in no particular order is ally elliott, mill town and jc  ;D

Anybody that had 'the pleasure' of marking cloot knows why he is held in such high esteem in hurling circles. He was a wizard

Agree, 100's have done it, only tens have made it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2013, 01:03:36 AM
Cloot would catch a ball with a man at the front back and both sides marking him, with hurls rainning down on him ffs!! Wish I'd the knowledge I have now back then, I'd give myself a good slap!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 23, 2013, 01:16:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2013, 01:03:36 AM
Cloot would catch a ball with a man at the front back and both sides marking him, with hurls rainning down on him ffs!! Wish I'd the knowledge I have now back then, I'd give myself a good slap!!

ffs stop reminiscing, worst nite of my life was having pinky, donnelly and paul jennings marked me within 30 mins up in the town. but were talking bout now,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2013, 10:02:22 AM
Great thread lads!
Enjoyed reading some of those!

1) I think St. John's will bring more of those young teams through as they have some good men at the club which were perhaps missing before. Although HS wisdom may be right in terms of the dual conflict starting - especially given the personalities involved.
That said - I don't think they will win a senior championship.

2) Rossa did dominate and underage gizzy but only tagged on one championship (see previous point) because what you cannot control is that other clubs don't sit idly by. That Rossa team were only beaten by a dunloy team which as MR2 said - were just adding 2/3 players to a successful side.

3) looking on then? SiE can tell us maybe loughiel don't need a successful minor team - they might just need to add a handful to this side?

4) ballycastle were mentioned - for me they are more likely to make the breakthrough than St. John's. they are bringing lads through in a parochial and single code club.

What's great is this thread has highlighted so many different factors - it's how they play out that decide where the volunteer cup goes once loughiel let it go!
That's what keeps us all watching and waiting and opinionated!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 23, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
Mr2 I'd say some of ur memories are viewed a little differently by the brave warriors that took to the field with u. However thanks for the snapshot and those memories.  In this cold snap they brought an inner glow. Was wondering if you'd consider a speaker role at the bredagh fund raising nite before hurling final.  Sincerest regards. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2013, 11:27:12 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 23, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
Mr2 I'd say some of ur memories are viewed a little differently by the brave warriors that took to the field with u. However thanks for the snapshot and those memories.  In this cold snap they brought an inner glow. Was wondering if you'd consider a speaker role at the bredagh fund raising nite before hurling final.  Sincerest regards.

Our memories of games in the past are always different to those that took the field that same game. We had a laugh about it all on St Patricks day/night in the club, the hurling was by today's standard crap but it was what it was.

As for my memories, I prefer to remember them as they were/are a couple of winners medals and few league wins and a lot of criac along the way. Have made some great friends through the GAA and will continue to do so.

I love the puzzlement look on peoples faces (non-GAA men) when two guys start talking about hurling/football clubs/counties it's like speaking a different language class.

As for speaking, I'm a very timid person not great at speaking to large groups lol :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2013, 02:38:51 PM
Carlow 0-13 Antrim 3-14 FT

Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2013, 02:49:28 PM
A good result against a team they should be beating. A major improvement on their last outing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
Decent tally. Who where the main scorers?

Looks like decent competitive matches in 1A.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2013, 07:28:58 PM
Would have fancied us in casement but away from home that counts as a good result!
Well done to Ryan and the squad!
A win over Offaly would still count as a shock however.

Do I go to casement?
Or save my gate money for both belfast derbies on Monday!
HS and MR2/manballandall any idea how much into league games?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
Free to ours. Rossa\ St Johs usually charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2013, 07:54:29 PM
I paid into milltown last year that oul fella must have seen me coming! Although he does leave pretty sharpish once ball thrown in for the cheap skates!
Maybe a cover charge would help build changing rooms!
I fancy that games to be close with home advantage winning it for bellews boys!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 24, 2013, 07:55:48 PM
Johnnies will charge fiver I'd say. Wouldn't pay to watch us:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 25, 2013, 08:54:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 23, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
If youre good enough, youre old enough was the well used phrase. Very few are good enough at 16 for senior. So far all I can think of in no particular order is ally elliott, mill town and jc  ;D

Anybody that had 'the pleasure' of marking cloot knows why he is held in such high esteem in hurling circles. He was a wizard

I couldn't be held in such esteemed company, I played adult hurling at 16. I had to wait a few years plying my trade in the reserves against the likes of Eddie Donnelly senior, I kid you not, his arm was thicker than my leg FFS, before I played senior hurling.

My first ever senior club game was against the Jew McMullan of Loughgeil, the beardy lad, still have the painful memories of that with me yet, he'd played in the AI final the previous year and I think I was 19 at the time. A week later it was Tony McGrath up in Dunloy, Learned hard and learned fast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 25, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 25, 2013, 08:54:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 23, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
If youre good enough, youre old enough was the well used phrase. Very few are good enough at 16 for senior. So far all I can think of in no particular order is ally elliott, mill town and jc  ;D

Anybody that had 'the pleasure' of marking cloot knows why he is held in such high esteem in hurling circles. He was a wizard

I couldn't be held in such esteemed company, I played adult hurling at 16. I had to wait a few years plying my trade in the reserves against the likes of Eddie Donnelly senior, I kid you not, his arm was thicker than my leg FFS, before I played senior hurling.

My first ever senior club game was against the Jew McMullan of Loughgeil, the beardy lad, still have the painful memories of that with me yet, he'd played in the AI final the previous year and I think I was 19 at the time. A week later it was Tony McGrath up in Dunloy, Learned hard and learned fast.

That is a steep learning curve!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 25, 2013, 08:28:38 PM
I am taking my belfast mc cooey hat (baseball cap) off just to say best wishes to the north antrim folk in the current conditions - some shocking scenes inflicted by nature.
Hope everyone is ok and ofcourse your precious cows & sheep!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 27, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
How's the weather around the rest of the county outside the Glens do you think Mondays fixtures will be affected. pitches wil be wet and heavy with thaw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 27, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
you should be used to the puzzlement by now MR2

But like i say the Breadgh gaa nite with guest speakers would provide you a platform and there is only a few of us that would need a translator !!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

division 1a and 1b extremely competitive and every game now seems to be very important

it can only be good for the standard of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2013, 11:37:19 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 27, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
you should be used to the puzzlement by now MR2

But like i say the Breadgh gaa nite with guest speakers would provide you a platform and there is only a few of us that would need a translator !!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
division 1a and 1b extremely competitive and every game now seems to be very important

it can only be good for the standard of hurling

Ulster Scots?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 28, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 27, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
How's the weather around the rest of the county outside the Glens do you think Mondays fixtures will be affected. pitches wil be wet and heavy with thaw

I would think the city pitches would be fine by Monday (except hannahstown).
What about the glens pitches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 29, 2013, 08:14:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 28, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 27, 2013, 06:42:22 PM
How's the weather around the rest of the county outside the Glens do you think Mondays fixtures will be affected. pitches wil be wet and heavy with thaw

I would think the city pitches would be fine by Monday (except hannahstown).
What about the glens pitches?


Our pitch is holding up pretty well considering a quarter of it was under water last saturday. The gang mower was on it yesterday and if there's no real heavy showers it'll be good to go on monday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 30, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
Just in reply to the earlier thread about underage teams.You only need 3-4 each year to have a panel.However as it was with Crossmaglen it can take one team that wins the whole way up to reinvigorate a clubs senior set up. St Johns and ourselves are both in this boat.In regard to hardstation Ballycastles youth setup has come full circle.We compete in nearly every age division and have won three U21s in the past 6/7 years.Not bad for a club with poor underage structures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Jesus, this referee really hates us.same as last year against limerick, he's handed Offaly this game on a plate. Disgrace. If you follow young hippy on twitter he's summed it up perfectly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2013, 05:31:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Jesus, this referee really hates us.same as last year against limerick, he's handed Offaly this game on a plate. Disgrace. If you follow young hippy on twitter he's summed it up perfectly.

+1 after last year i knew if it was close near the end he would shaft us. them biffos for big men sure go down easy and do some rolling about. well done to the ref he was the best offaly player on the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
I feel physically sick over that today. Absolutely shafted. Hurling is a physical game yet that one today, it was played in a good spirit, hard and fair, not a dirty stroke pulled. But those frees just defy logic. Crazy.
At four up with 15 to play, Kelly gives Offaly a nothing free, helps them steady, gifted them a way back in. True, we didn't score for the last 15, but our cause wasn't helped by a referee willing to blow for nothing in favour of Offaly while letting them away with blatant trips and fouls as we tried to build from the back and at midfield. The penalty that wasn't awarded when Carson seemed well inside when dragged back.
One thing sticks in my head - giving out the Limerick v Wexford score seemed to galvanize Offaly a bit, forced them to up their game a bit, an error I think from announcer, almost seemed a turning point in a way.
Still - loads of positives. Shorty, McCrory and McManus were phenomenal. The whole team - honest endeavor, hooking, blocking, physically stood up. Really think these lads, given some time to develop, can do good things.
Maybe a playoff against Carlow, competitive game in two weeks, might be a good thing to keep it ticking over ahead of Westmeath in Championship.
No doubt we are moving in the right direction, Championship now starts on April 14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2013, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
I feel physically sick over that today. Absolutely shafted. Hurling is a physical game yet that one today, it was played in a good spirit, hard and fair, not a dirty stroke pulled. But those frees just defy logic. Crazy.
At four up with 15 to play, Kelly gives Offaly a nothing free, helps them steady, gifted them a way back in. True, we didn't score for the last 15, but our cause wasn't helped by a referee willing to blow for nothing in favour of Offaly while letting them away with blatant trips and fouls as we tried to build from the back and at midfield. The penalty that wasn't awarded when Carson seemed well inside when dragged back.
One thing sticks in my head - giving out the Limerick v Wexford score seemed to galvanize Offaly a bit, forced them to up their game a bit, an error I think from announcer, almost seemed a turning point in a way.
Still - loads of positives. Shorty, McCrory and McManus were phenomenal. The whole team - honest endeavor, hooking, blocking, physically stood up. Really think these lads, given some time to develop, can do good things.
Maybe a playoff against Carlow, competitive game in two weeks, might be a good thing to keep it ticking over ahead of Westmeath in Championship.
No doubt we are moving in the right direction, Championship now starts on April 14.

Will be a harder game against Carlow next time out, I'd say Carlow didn't show their hand last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
I fancy this Antrim team to beat Carlow. 6 or 7 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
True, the football was absolutely horrible. But still, those frees blown played a major part. Not even scorable, but allowed their forwards to turn ball over and keep the game in that half of the field. Thought young fella, Jackson McGreevy had a fine game, will improve and made odd mistake but looks the real deal. Last ten was crying out for a Karl Stewart in the middle to win some ball. Feel good about our hurlers, really do, a work in progress but going in the right direction. I take it Carlow will be a neutral venue, Parnell?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 31, 2013, 08:16:38 PM
Not the first time Kelly screwed Antrim over. did the same last year when Antrim played Limerick just did it early to knock the heart out of Antrim. He should never be allowed to ref an Antrim game again. He'd be a **** but a **** can be useful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
I remember that game last year. Limerick people almost embarrassed about the decisions. His performance could see Antrim relegated today, that's not right. The majority of those frees - would hey have been awarded during the KK v Cork game? No chance. Even the last free to put Offaly two up in injury time, looked like Graffin made a great challenge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2013, 08:42:44 PM
Fully agree with all point on the red today. Right from the start he seemed determined to slant the game towards Offaly. Is it bias? Is it bred into him that southerners deserve better? Who knows? But one thing for sure is that he favoured Offaly from the first minute to the last. Dubious calls and and anybody who says a ref cannot alter the result is on a different planet!
Yes we faded badly at the end but when against the breeze the tiredness can be exploited more especially when ever call is going against us.

I would think we should beat Carlow although we'll need a greater variety of scores than just Neil's frees.

Off work until Wednesday so more hurling tomorrow!
I'm off to Rossa park then milltown (don't tell the wife!). 
Simon mccrory's performance today makes me favour the johnnies and I think galls have too much for sarsfields. But I am hoping for to hard & close games to give credence to city hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 31, 2013, 10:14:51 PM
What's the story with Karl Stewart? Is he injured or not on / off the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
I remember that game last year. Limerick people almost embarrassed about the decisions. His performance could see Antrim relegated today, that's not right. The majority of those frees - would hey have been awarded during the KK v Cork game? No chance. Even the last free to put Offaly two up in injury time, looked like Graffin made a great challenge

nothing wrong with graffins challenge he got the ball first. as for fading in the last ten minutes dont even go there. from the very first minute he was as it. he blew Eddy Mc Closkey twice for over carrying when his man was trying to mount him. the list is endless. Olly Baker and his crew are away down the road tonight with our points and the fault lays at one man,s  feet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 10:34:53 PM
I can't agree. Ok, we didn't score for last 15, but the momentum swing came from Kelly's decisions, allowing Offaly forwards away with things at one end yet penalising at the other for the same things. It wasn't a fair crack of the whip. Giving a hop ball when Antrim originally had a free out led to a vital score was one of many calls which dictated the destination of that game.
It's over now, April 14 v Carlow it is. Think we are in a much better place than when we were a few months back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2013, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 10:27:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on March 31, 2013, 08:26:51 PM
I remember that game last year. Limerick people almost embarrassed about the decisions. His performance could see Antrim relegated today, that's not right. The majority of those frees - would hey have been awarded during the KK v Cork game? No chance. Even the last free to put Offaly two up in injury time, looked like Graffin made a great challenge

nothing wrong with graffins challenge he got the ball first. as for fading in the last ten minutes dont even go there. from the very first minute he was as it. he blew Eddy Mc Closkey twice for over carrying when his man was trying to mount him. the list is endless. Olly Baker and his crew are away down the road tonight with our points and the fault lays at one man,s  feet
What do you mean don't even go there?? We were beat 0-06 to 0-00 in that time! Blame the ref all you want but you're only kidding yourself.

there half backs caught some great balls in the last ten but they fouled our forwards as much not that the ref noticed. we should have been 4 up at half time if he was playing it square. bar simon acting badly after he won th  free the rest was a digrace. go there if you want then but i,mm looking at it over 70 minutes and that tool bag cost us at least 6 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Galls game on wed night now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
Thanks for that manballandall - saved me a trip!

There could be fireworks at Rossa's place tomorrow - I am goin for a narrow St. John's victory - with some controversy along the way and a busy Owen Elliot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 31, 2013, 10:53:42 PM
What time is that game at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2013, 11:30:13 PM
Seems that way HS.

St. John's putting out all the right vibes I haven't heard from the Rossa lads pulling up much wood?

Derby game tho so it will be close either way these games always have been no mater which side were in the ascendency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
Will be interested to see how both sides line out.
And no doubt it will all take off from there!
Should be a good crowd there - hope that hill of yours is not too slippy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2013, 12:39:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2013, 11:42:08 PM
Think our lads have put in a fair shift as regards gym work over the winter but stickwork is only in the very early stages.

As you say though, an aul dog fight. They've a couple of county players though who will be far more up to speed than us.

Micky Armstrong is home for Easter but carrying an injury. Could make hay in full forward IMO.
More importantly, I hope the lads have got the winter tan in true McCooey tradition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2013, 09:51:22 AM
You on the drink last night hardstation?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
We've 10 newcomers starting against dunloy later. It'll be interesting to see how they get on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
We've 10 newcomers starting against dunloy later. It'll be interesting to see how they get on.

If they are coming from your minor team of last year they will be terrible, I refereed a couple of games and the fullback was the only decent player you had. How did the mighty reserves do yesterday against Dunloy? Will they be lining out again today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
We've 10 newcomers starting against dunloy later. It'll be interesting to see how they get on.

If they are coming from your minor team of last year they will be terrible, I refereed a couple of games and the fullback was the only decent player you had. How did the mighty reserves do yesterday against Dunloy? Will they be lining out again today?
Dunloy won by 3 points. Our u21s havent been too bad over the last few years.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2013, 01:10:37 AM
We line out as follows:

Ray Matthews
Joe McCaffrey Anto Rogan Gerard Rogan
Mark Reynolds John Hamill Seamus Shannon
Jim Connolly Joe Boyle (Jim?)Fegan
John Taggert Jim Close Donal Armstrong
Noco Murray Colly Murphy Paul Close mighty Quinn


Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2013, 01:33:54 AM
Johnnies line out as follows:

Pat Gallagher
Brendan McGibbon (dirty fcuker) Paul Collins Neal Peden
Gerard Cunningham (senior?) Seanie Burns Dooleys Morgan
Pearse McFall Jimmy Wilson Locky McCurdy
Paul Montgomery Ronan Heenan John Kelly Fergal Collins
Brian McFall Brendan Mackin Colly McKnight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2013, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
We've 10 newcomers starting against dunloy later. It'll be interesting to see how they get on.

If they are coming from your minor team of last year they will be terrible, I refereed a couple of games and the fullback was the only decent player you had. How did the mighty reserves do yesterday against Dunloy? Will they be lining out again today?

Milltown, what's the story with Karl Stewart??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 01, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
Karl is training hard and will be on show on wed night all being well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:33:59 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 01, 2013, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
We've 10 newcomers starting against dunloy later. It'll be interesting to see how they get on.

If they are coming from your minor team of last year they will be terrible, I refereed a couple of games and the fullback was the only decent player you had. How did the mighty reserves do yesterday against Dunloy? Will they be lining out again today?

Milltown, what's the story with Karl Stewart??

He'd the flu I was led to believe, big loss on Sunday, could have done with him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 01, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
Hasn't been with the county for past few weeks I am led to believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
Loughgiel won by two points after being 4 points down at half time. 0-10 to 1-05. Paddy doc shown the line again for A dirty strike on Skinner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 01, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
we beat the oisins handy enough in the end today 2-15. to 0-5.

tougher challenges lie ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2013, 05:29:59 PM
According to a boy on twitter St Johns beat Rossa with 2 late goals - 4-8 to 2-10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 01, 2013, 06:25:27 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 01, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
Hasn't been with the county for past few weeks I am led to believe
Been gassed I hear. No one man bigger than the team it seems, which is fair enough I suppose. Albeit disappointing to lose him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2013, 06:33:05 PM
Yes that score is correct!

Not sure if St. John's stole this or Rossa threw it away but what is clear is that Rossa have the same problem as they had in division 2 - conceding goals!

With the breeze in 1st half they did the scoring then have away a soft goal and penalty. Scores by Brian McFall.

In the 2nd half Rossa were completely dominant and les by 4 with 9mins + added time to go.
Another penalty and another soft goal and game over. The johnnies loved it!

Anyone know who Rossa keeper was? McFall will never score an easier penalty - I couldn't believe the shape of this lad he stood no chance - short & heavy an understatement he was never going to get near any shot!

In between times the game was competitive and well contested - first touches either rusty at the start of the year or just a result of pressure applied?

Best for St. John's - Simon McCrory really stood out and McFall was an influence when on the ball especially near the end.
For Rossa - young Beatty and bell the pick.

Both teams had a few players who for me will be well out of their depth against the big teams and again both still over reliant on older hands.
Maybe connected to our earlier thread about young lads not coming through?

Well done St. John's they never stopped and bragging rights are theirs!

Next up its milltown on Wednesday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 02, 2013, 01:40:34 PM
Galls vs sarsfields at bear pit at 6.30 tomorrow night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 02, 2013, 01:42:36 PM
Thought the Rossa keeper done grand, the two penalties, well McFall normally never misses them anyway, and he had a very good puck out especially against the wind.

St Johns looked that bit sharper but Rossa looked the better overall team and with a few more games under their belt at this pace I think they can do well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 03, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
St galls win by 6. Good win and display considering the team hasn't been together much. Hopefully things will continue to improve now for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2013, 08:37:51 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 03, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
St galls win by 6. Good win and display considering the team hasn't been together much. Hopefully things will continue to improve now for them

Just back, the game was scrappy enough. (I only made the second half) Was a bit of a battle but the two goals scored at the start of the second half was the difference, Sarsfields got it back to 2 points but and we'd a man sent off for two yellows so it was tight, Sarsfields had a lad sent of for a terrible strike off the ball late on, rush of blood but dangerous enough strike to the face guard. Too stop start and no real fluency in the game to make it entertaining.

We had no McGourty's and No Stewart playing, so I'd say the performance was great considering the calibre of players missing. Thought Sarsfields went for goal way to early and could have tag on a lot of points but happy days they didn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2013, 09:15:26 PM
I was waiting on your posts first there lads.
Fair enough - no bias.

Can I get one thing off my chest first?
The thing that I left sarsfields with this evening was that I couldn't believe several of their supporters / management disputed the red card. I think mr2 u might be doing them a favour I though it was a sickening strike and if those on the scoreboard side thought otherwise they are to be treated with contempt.

I'd agree it wasn't a great game - but competitive at least.

I think sarsfields chasing goals is a natiral response when a team concedes them - and to be honest I didn't think they were going to get enough points to cut the gap without a major.

Some strange faces in the galls line up mr2 / manballandall or just me?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
New lads coming in, thats what its all about, bringing a few on and soon enough they become seniors, I'd say there is more to work on over the next few weeks but good, regradless of the entertainment to get a win.

In fairness not too many disputed the sending off, I'd a feeling the referee didn't see it but certainly heard it :P

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 03, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
Only one new face from last years team/squad but a few of the young fellas are regular seniors now and that can only be a good thing. Not sure if we will see the missing players this year but club is in safe hands with a lot of good work being done underage. Time will tell I guess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2013, 10:28:23 PM
I would imagine that's 2points fm from what on paper should be your toughest game of the year - no excuse not to top the league and return to division1 then?
Or dare I mention dual clubs & bog ball?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2013, 12:51:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2013, 10:28:23 PM
I would imagine that's 2points fm from what on paper should be your toughest game of the year - no excuse not to top the league and return to division1 then?
Or dare I mention dual clubs & bog ball?!

Very close games all round this year, Cloughmills will give us our toughest game I think this Sunday, I'll be heading down so I'll keep ya updated ;)

Might even bring me gear, seeing we are so under strengthed at minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 04, 2013, 07:58:47 AM
Will the pitches in the glens be playable on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 07, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
Dall to beat cran
Shams to beat Rossa
Dunloy to beat ports
Castle to beat Galget
Johns to beat oisins

Galls to beat biddies
Sars to beat Paul's
Randalstown to beat clooney
Armoy to beat hannahstown
Carey gort draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2013, 12:23:03 PM
Where abouts is Cloughmills pitch? I've never had the pleasure of playing on it but heading down to watch our seniors later. I can get to Clougmills no problem but do I head towards Loughgiel or straight ahead? Not sure, whats the road its on called?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 07, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2013, 12:23:03 PM
Where abouts is Cloughmills pitch? I've never had the pleasure of playing on it but heading down to watch our seniors later. I can get to Clougmills no problem but do I head towards Loughgiel or straight ahead? Not sure, whats the road its on called?

It's on the Ballyveely Road ie the main road from Cloughmills to Loughgiel, about half a mile outside the village. If you drive right through the village, the Ballyveely Road veers off to the right after the Church. The pitch is well off the road on the right hand side and not terribly visible from it, particularly approaching it from Cloughmills. Access is down a long lane. Best of luck!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 07, 2013, 04:11:35 PM
Shamrocks 11 up at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 07, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Won 2-17 to 0-12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 07, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2013, 12:23:03 PM
Where abouts is Cloughmills pitch? I've never had the pleasure of playing on it but heading down to watch our seniors later. I can get to Clougmills no problem but do I head towards Loughgiel or straight ahead? Not sure, whats the road its on called?

It's on the Ballyveely Road ie the main road from Cloughmills to Loughgiel, about half a mile outside the village. If you drive right through the village, the Ballyveely Road veers off to the right after the Church. The pitch is well off the road on the right hand side and not terribly visible from it, particularly approaching it from Cloughmills. Access is down a long lane. Best of luck!!

Poor enough game, strong wind causing it to be a battle and who ever got the goals when playing with the wind was going to win. We won the toss and played with the wind and went 9 points up, Cloughmills huffed and puffed but didn't have that cutting edge to get close to a Galls team that fought for every ball and managed to get the goals. Two wins in a row and still a lot of improvement from our lads if truth be told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 07, 2013, 10:59:50 PM
Travelled up to glenariffe with Johnnies no 1 supporter. left in no doubt who will be relegated. Glenariffe beyond bad. Wouldn't have known half of them.  Talkin to a few ex oisins in our club. They didn't even know some of their lads.  Despite the propaganda in the car will wait to see Johnnie again before I make a relegation call for them.  Town beat by galget big result for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2013, 12:25:42 AM
It was sarsfields v naomh pol for me.
Dissapointing standard - never thought I would compliment sarsfields on being a more "pure" hurling team but this was the case.
St. Paul's were terrible - both on and off the pitch if u get my meaning
Ref struggled but mainly due to players making matters difficult for him in early stages.
Once match settled little else.
Few good late score from sarsfields   

Tell us more about St. John's saff?
Delighted with galls professional performance by sounds of things?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 08, 2013, 08:52:33 AM
won handy enough on sunday. played a few younger lads and had shorty and woody back in the team again. played against the breeze in the first half and went in 2-04 to 0-05 up with goals form Nicky mckeague and shorty.
finished out the game well in the second half taking a lot of good scores. happy with the result and performance after how badly we played on the monday.
reserves won as well for the second time in a row. cosidering we only won 2 reserve games last season its a big improvement!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
Were Rossa missing anyone from the team which played Loughgiel?

Loughgiel had a much changed team with a lot of lads rested/playing out of position but never really had to get out of second gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2013, 09:39:48 AM
Wouldnt surprise me as Rossa don't travel well - struggle to see them picking up points on the road.
Also on the basis of St John's game I dont think they are competition for the big teams.

Poor opening results for Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
Were Rossa missing anyone from the team which played Loughgiel?

Loughgiel had a much changed team with a lot of lads rested/playing out of position but never really had to get out of second gear.

Not that they will care or be worried what I think, but I find it a bit tasteless and disrespectful to the other teams and to the league that LG will be rotating out so much of the 'best' 15. I can see it from their side of the fence trying to keep their players fresh for later in the year, but that still doesnt stop me from thinking it is not good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2013, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
Were Rossa missing anyone from the team which played Loughgiel?

Loughgiel had a much changed team with a lot of lads rested/playing out of position but never really had to get out of second gear.

Not that they will care or be worried what I think, but I find it a bit tasteless and disrespectful to the other teams and to the league that LG will be rotating out so much of the 'best' 15. I can see it from their side of the fence trying to keep their players fresh for later in the year, but that still doesnt stop me from thinking it is not good.

I'd say you're right in that they won't care or be worried.

Makes complete sense to rest the boys who need a mental and physical break as well as to give opportunities to fellas who slogged all winter and never got much game time.  Considering they are 2/2 I don't think they are really undermining the competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 11:13:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2013, 11:11:46 AM
You've lost it, NAG1.

Maybe so HS wouldnt be the first time.

Just doesn't sit comfortably with me but maybe its just a grumpy Monday morning thing  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 11:22:46 AM
It's loughgiel's fault.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2013, 12:54:30 PM
Rossa were missing a few players including Armstrong & Close.

Loughiel had Watson, Barney, Joe Scullion, James Campbell, Neil McGarry, Ding Gillen, Eddie McCloskey all playing to name but a few.
I'm not sure that can count as a weakened team?

For me its Lougheils team, they can chose who plays, and they dont need to explain themselves to anyone.
2 out of 2 including a win in Dunloy?
I dont think they can be assused of distorting the league by a long shot!

Even in the broader picture - does any team really have their first 15 available of much if any of the league. Very rare I would say that someone isnt always missing for some reason or another? Loughiel simply have the riches to chose to leave players out while still having a strong team on the field - and winning their games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
NAG must've been feeling a little hormonal this morning

If they can still field 2 teams (and still win) then why should anyone have an issue with their line outs week to week ...their call end of. I'm sure if they were getting hosed with a changed team then  they themselves would look at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 01:36:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
NAG must've been feeling a little hormonal this morning

If they can still field 2 teams (and still win) then why should anyone have an issue with their line outs week to week ...their call end of. I'm sure if they were getting hosed with a changed team then  they themselves would look at it.

Maybe I was and as I explained I can understand their reasons for doing it and that's fair enough. Just to me it gives off an air of arrogance but as you say dealers choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 01:36:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
NAG must've been feeling a little hormonal this morning

If they can still field 2 teams (and still win) then why should anyone have an issue with their line outs week to week ...their call end of. I'm sure if they were getting hosed with a changed team then  they themselves would look at it.

Maybe I was and as I explained I can understand their reasons for doing it and that's fair enough. Just to me it gives off an air of arrogance but as you say dealers choice.

Well when you have won an All Ireland and a few Championships in a row, arrogance might be perceived from the outside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 02:21:01 PM
Unreal.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
Quite a bit of pettiness here...

They've won the AI and got to a replay of the semi giving them more or less no break with the same panel of players.

a) some of their players will need a rest
b) the league is the time for them, and anyone, to look at new players.

I don't see how anyone could see this as an air of arrogance. I think it's nothing short of petty  begrudgery to call it that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2013, 02:35:48 PM
Anyone know if Joe Cassidy is still taking Ballycastle?

Is there a break in fixtures for a while or whats happening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
Quite a bit of pettiness here...

They've won the AI and got to a replay of the semi giving them more or less no break with the same panel of players.

a) some of their players will need a rest
b) the league is the time for them, and anyone, to look at new players.

I don't see how anyone could see this as an air of arrogance. I think it's nothing short of petty  begrudgery to call it that.

Was stating my opinion on the matter, perceived from the outside or not, it is what I think. I framed the opinion by stating that I understood the reasons for doing so but that it still did not sit well with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 08, 2013, 03:32:59 PM
think it would be worse if shamrocks didn't rotate their squad.  Is it not blooding their players


surprised at the amount of regulars actually playing this early in he season.

Btgtt  Jthe ohnnies had about another 15 on the sideline, they look young but they had no bother disposing of the home side.  League table shows Galget and Johnnies at top, the common demonimator is they have boh played a weak Glenariffe team that as helped the scoring average. 

One worry for the Johnnies is the manager keeping his cool, he was quite animated at times despite the score line.  Would like to see a full meltdown, im sure its something to behold.  Plenty of snow on the hills up the glens. 

reckon Johnnies ballycastle would be a good game, would like to see it.  I know it is very early days but i think the shams can only beat themselves.  Had fancied the Dall this year but surprising defeat there for them, howver had they the full 15 in operation.

also reckon the Galls will walk that league if they keep their focus.  Who are the management team this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on April 08, 2013, 03:32:59 PM
think it would be worse if shamrocks didn't rotate their squad.  Is it not blooding their players


surprised at the amount of regulars actually playing this early in he season.

Btgtt  Jthe ohnnies had about another 15 on the sideline, they look young but they had no bother disposing of the home side.  League table shows Galget and Johnnies at top, the common demonimator is they have boh played a weak Glenariffe team that as helped the scoring average. 

One worry for the Johnnies is the manager keeping his cool, he was quite animated at times despite the score line.  Would like to see a full meltdown, im sure its something to behold.  Plenty of snow on the hills up the glens. 

reckon Johnnies ballycastle would be a good game, would like to see it.  I know it is very early days but i think the shams can only beat themselves.  Had fancied the Dall this year but surprising defeat there for them, howver had they the full 15 in operation.

also reckon the Galls will walk that league if they keep their focus.  Who are the management team this year.

Believe they did have all players.

We aren't interested in the league, just concentrating on Loughgiel ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
They could play their Z squad if youse line out with the side youse brought down on Friday night  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
They could play their Z squad if youse line out with the side youse brought down on Friday night  :P

Ha Ha  ;D ;D

Was busy, otherwise I'd have been there lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 08, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
NAG1 or should it be JEALOUS NAG1

When was the last time N McM played in the same position for 2 games in a row. When was the time he played in the same position for a whole game. Sort your own house out.

Good players can play any position. Loughgiel can and will use and play their players in whatever position when they like.

Seems they are doing something right 2 from 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
On another note, I hear winker has signed up as a columnist for the county Antrim post. Should be interesting.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 08, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
On another note, I hear winker has signed up as a columnist for the county Antrim post. Should be interesting.  :D

He seems like a boy that can hardly spell his own name.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 08, 2013, 11:45:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
On another note, I hear winker has signed up as a columnist for the county Antrim post. Should be interesting.  :D

Time will tell if there's a readership for that column.  Not for me I know that much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 09, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
We'd a good win against Ballycastle on Sunday.

El Magico even carrying a bit of timber is making our forwards tick with some very unselfish play from the big man, still gets his fair share though. Ballycastle played into our hands a bit by trying to send a midfielder to cover in front of him, that left space for our other forwards who seemed to have matured or had a bit of pressure lifted off them when Magic's around and are playing better, Danny Toner is finally showing what he's made of and Caolan Baille starting to understand that he's no longer playing minor hurling at senior and eating the lace out of the ball.

I'd still have reservations about our defence and lack of strength on the bench when injuries mount, but from where we were last year there's an improvement in the speed and thought in our hurling and that's commendable.

On a side note, Neil McAuley was far from fit and looked to be carrying an injury, not good news for Antrim as he's a quality player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 09, 2013, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2013, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 08, 2013, 02:25:21 PM
Quite a bit of pettiness here...

They've won the AI and got to a replay of the semi giving them more or less no break with the same panel of players.

a) some of their players will need a rest
b) the league is the time for them, and anyone, to look at new players.

I don't see how anyone could see this as an air of arrogance. I think it's nothing short of petty  begrudgery to call it that.

Was stating my opinion on the matter, perceived from ther outside or not, it is what I think. I framed the opinion by stating that I understood the reasons for doing so but that it still did not sit well with me.
sure what really is it to you?  Or anyone, Outside of loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
Are Ballycastle in some sort of training regime that they are over trained (gym wise) and and not enough stick work done? Thought they would be pulling hard this year, early days but..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
playing the reserves might work, or it might not. time wil tell come the championship.

im sure the lads are glad of a rest at the min after all their training from the past few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2013, 12:59:56 PM
Are Ballycastle in some sort of training regime that they are over trained (gym wise) and and not enough stick work done? Thought they would be pulling hard this year, early days but..........

im surprised as well at them losing 2 games on the trot. not like them considering the talent they have in the squad. some cracking players esp neil mcauley. early days yet i suppose, we didnt start well last year and ended up in the county final so theres no point in peaking early or too early at that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 09, 2013, 01:07:01 PM
I wouldn't have said it to be are reserves.   There was a few lads played out of there normal position.  And a few younger lads that have been pushing hard as past while getting there chance.   God forbid!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 10, 2013, 01:30:22 PM
I see the footballers are dealing with an in-house dispute with regards T McCann and T Scullion being rightly or wrongly dropped for the weekends game. 

Antrim, more than any other County seem to deal with these issues (across both codes) on an annual basis.  Whilst other counties have isolated issues we deal with it year in, year out.  One of a few reasons why we don't make much of a dent in either code.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on April 10, 2013, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
On another note, I hear winker has signed up as a columnist for the county Antrim post. Should be interesting.  :D

If the County Antrim Post think their readership is going to go through the roof by signing up this clown as a columnist, they're mistaken. Don't think there is a spell check designed for this man's dialect.

Can just see the editors face when he receives his first draft!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 10, 2013, 01:53:38 PM
Well Harry Redknapp can do a column so can our dear Liam!

I think the way these things are done is normally by an interview over the phone which a journalist writes up.
The colunist can then approve the copy.

Obviously Winker is not the most popular on this forum - but he is controversial which is exactly what the paper wants.
And the fact is - people will therefore read it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 10, 2013, 02:02:39 PM
Dont like it, dont read it!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthehill on April 10, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2013, 01:53:38 PM
Well Harry Redknapp can do a column so can our dear Liam!

I think the way these things are done is normally by an interview over the phone which a journalist writes up.
The colunist can then approve the copy.

Obviously Winker is not the most popular on this forum - but he is controversial which is exactly what the paper wants.
And the fact is - people will therefore read it.

Your right.

It just pisses you off that he's now been given a weekly column that will be filled with attacks on Antrim county and the players. The players there at the minute deserve a break and less of that tripe he spins about them and rivalries etc. The rest will be loughgiel and himself.

Next time i see that Maggie doll running about a pitch with that camera i'll soon tell her.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
The rivalry issue is far from tripe unfortunately. It'll be nice to get a differing view than that of our cushendall press pack.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 10, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
Lets not forget "opinions are like 4rseholes...everyones got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 10, 2013, 05:03:10 PM
Nice skull!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 10, 2013, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2013, 01:53:38 PM
Well Harry Redknapp can do ;D a column so can our dear Liam!

I think the way these things are done is normally by an interview over the phone which a journalist writes up.
The colunist can then approve the copy.

Obviously Winker is not the most popular on this forum - but he is controversial which is exactly what the paper wants.
And the fact is - people will therefore read it.
.  Lol.  I don't mind him.  Funny enough  ;D Alot of the time he speaks the truth.  Alot of people don't like the truth.   Then we have the ODD time with beer involved that he's just not close to being wise.  Lol.  Everyone's been there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 10, 2013, 06:03:24 PM
Quote from: Onthehill on April 10, 2013, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
On another note, I hear winker has signed up as a columnist for the county Antrim post. Should be interesting.  :D

If the County Antrim Post think their readership is going to go through the roof by signing up this clown as a columnist, they're mistaken. Don't think there is a spell check designed for this man's dialect.

Can just see the editors face when he receives his first draft!
Hi boy, wha ye tryin tay say 'bout our dialec? Sure is it naw as plain as day tay unnerstan?

Good job it's written down right enough.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 11, 2013, 09:39:28 AM
Are Antrim playing Carlow in the relegation decider this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 10:22:03 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 11, 2013, 09:39:28 AM
Are Antrim playing Carlow in the relegation decider this weekend?

Yes in Navan, schools semi on before it I think, St Marys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2013, 11:34:29 AM
Think the schools game is the final MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 11, 2013, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 11, 2013, 11:34:29 AM
Think the schools game is the final MR2.

What grade is that at? B Grade?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
The A grade is an ulster select these days. They nearly got to the final the other week too which would have been quite an achievement.

Yep - it's the B grade from what I know of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 11, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
i will be interested to see what liam has to say, i will give the first column a fair run and if he starts running down the county and other clubs then it will have to be ignored.
ive sopken to him before and hes a decent enough lad but just because hes a good hurler doesnt make his opinions on the game worth hearing.
it reminds me of lar corbetts column, we had a kilkenny man up at the weekend and he laughed at it. the thought of someone in kilkenny doing that would never have been allowed, esp someone who hasnt performed consistantly at a top level for a number of years.
but still, i will read it with interest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 11, 2013, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 11, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
The A grade is an ulster select these days. They nearly got to the final the other week too which would have been quite an achievement.

Yep - it's the B grade from what I know of.

It is the B grade - the O'Keefe Cup. Think St Mary's are going for 2 in a row, with Ulster teams having won the last 4 or so (St Marys, Maghera, Ballycastle, Ballycastle from memory).

In relation to the A grade, an Ulster Colleges team was entered for the first time. In the Quarter Final, they led most of the game against Mercy Colleges of Galway who got a goal from a free in injury time to level it and then a point to win it. Mercy Colleges were then beaten by 3 or 4 in the semi against Kilkenny CBS who were themselves beaten in the final by Dungarvan Schools.

Think St Mary's opposition was one of the schools making up the Dungarvan combination, so there will be a load of lads going for an A and B double in the one year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 13, 2013, 01:09:01 AM
Good luck tomoro lads. That's a decent lineup more than good enough to do the job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 13, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
Worried about mcgreevey physicality for wing back - what u think mr2 /manandball?
Also don't like Donnelly midfield eg mobility?

All in all tho I think we're simply a better team than Carlow and that will prevail.
Antrim by 4-8 points for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 13, 2013, 07:51:53 PM
Jackson has a lot of growing up to do still but is learning very quickly. What he lacks in physicality he makes up for in doggedness, balls and determination. Great stick work too. At club level he tries too hard but can't knock that too much, just has to be nurtured right. Great attitude and from what I hear he has being doing really well with the county, in fact I have heard can be guilty of the complete opposite and passing to every tom dick and harry who calls for it instead of doing his own thing.heard he has marked mc manus well too at in house games so wouldn't worry too much. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Carlow lead 8-4 at half time. All antrim scores have come from frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 14, 2013, 03:43:56 PM
Strong wind? Are they playing bad, carlow good?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
They were playing against the wind fair enough, but the forwards were poor first half. Need more from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 03:50:39 PM
They were playing against the wind fair enough, but the forwards were poor first half. Need more from them.

You there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 04:11:07 PM
Listening to the game on the radio, while the commentray is biased as fcuk the Carlow lads are playing with a lot of heart and have plenty of possession they seem the better team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 04:13:52 PM
Yep. 11-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on April 14, 2013, 04:22:15 PM
14-11now Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 04:25:56 PM
Up by 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
well done Antrim, the forwards played well in the end ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Not really. Plenty of room for improvement. They relied heavily on mcmanus' frees. Shanebo scored a great point towards the end of the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Not really. Plenty of room for improvement. They relied heavily on mcmanus' frees. Shanebo scored a great point towards the end of the second half.

We'll be grand once all the Loughgiel lads come back and play ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 14, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Not really. Plenty of room for improvement. They relied heavily on mcmanus' frees. Shanebo scored a great point towards the end of the second half.

We'll be grand once all the Loughgiel lads come back and play ;)
they can't play if not selected or wanted.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 14, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Cork relegated, maybe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 15, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
was at the game yday. poor enough performance through the entire game. we did enough to win the game but i was starting to panic that we wernt going to get the scores.
good move taking shane into the half forward line, he got onto the ball more and took a great score. though shorty was our best player, brian mc faul played well when he came on as well.
neill mc manus had prob his poorest game for us, i havent seen him play like that before for antrim, missed some easy frees.
still were up again, hopefully the lads can build from this and push on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 15, 2013, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 14, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Cork relegated, maybe.

That'll probably mean restructuring with Antrim and Laois shafted into a Div2. just wait and see!!


In the mean time, our winning streak continues with an 11 points to 6 win over our friends in Portaferry.

Match was switched to Portaferry as our pitch was still a bit soft from the rain on thursday night and friday but the gale made it a game of two halves. We played with it first, Ports got the first and their only point of the half early on but we managed to get 11 and should have gotten at least one goal and IMO we'd it all to do in the second half.
With Dule well shackled Portaferry didn't make much headroom and only managed another 5 points, we didn't manage a score but missed another few goal chances.

Poor conditions and a poor game but we've now the same points already than we managed all last year,so no complaints as yet. Corrigan park on wednesday night is our next outing I'm led to believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Wednesday

Division1

Ballycastle and Dunloy to be a close affair just a point or two either way - would normally go for Dunloy but the Town at home and in need of a good display after a poor start.

Cushendall to win easily over a Glenarrife team that will struggle this year.

St Johns home advantage to count over Ballygalget - two teams getting their points early which will stand by them later in the year when they play an improved field of teams.

Ballycran to continue their good start and beat a Rossa team that don't like travelling.

Division 2

A close game with St Pauls and Cloughmills - maybe a draw.

St Galls to beat Armoy easily.

Sarsfields to win away to Clooney Gaels.

Gorts to beat Lamh Dearg.

Home advantage enough for Tir Na nOg over Carey.

YES I AM BORED ON A MONDAY MORNING ON THE ROAD!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 15, 2013, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 15, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Wednesday

Division1

Ballycastle and Dunloy to be a close affair just a point or two either way - would normally go for Dunloy but the Town at home and in need of a good display after a poor start.

Cushendall to win easily over a Glenarrife team that will struggle this year.

St Johns home advantage to count over Ballygalget - two teams getting their points early which will stand by them later in the year when they play an improved field of teams.

Ballycran to continue their good start and beat a Rossa team that don't like travelling.

Division 2

A close game with St Pauls and Cloughmills - maybe a draw.

St Galls to beat Armoy easily.

Sarsfields to win away to Clooney Gaels.

Gorts to beat Lamh Dearg.

Home advantage enough for Tir Na nOg over Carey.

YES I AM BORED ON A MONDAY MORNING ON THE ROAD!

That would imply that we've trained like mad and may peak too early which ironically isn't what has happened. We didn't have a manager in place until March and training up to that point was pretty ad-hoc and taken by some of the senior players. We're far from fully fit yet as when you see big magic you'll see what I mean, he's far from fit, but in fairness is putting in the graft this year and will shake off those excess pounds/stones before we see the best of him come the summer months.

Granted the likes of Loughgeil will still be relying on whatever work they did in January and Feb to keep them ticking over until they get to training in earnest later on in the year gearing up for championship but I still think we've a lot more to offer yet ourselves and hopefully a lot of the young lads confidence will continue to build.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
Wasn't being disrespectful Johnny - just saying I ur lads & St. John's being top of the table won't be representative of long term status when the season is done.
Will hopefully make it to corrigan on Wednesday myself if I get out of work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
was at the game yday. poor enough performance through the entire game. we did enough to win the game but i was starting to panic that we wernt going to get the scores.
good move taking shane into the half forward line, he got onto the ball more and took a great score. though shorty was our best player, brian mc faul played well when he came on as well.
neill mc manus had prob his poorest game for us, i havent seen him play like that before for antrim, missed some easy frees.
still were up again, hopefully the lads can build from this and push on.

At the game myself. Cannot over emphasise the impact the wind had on the game. Puck outs were on occasion not reaching the 45.

Antrim did rightly for the first 20 minutes or so with the scores level. Nearly got a goal in the first couple of minutes but after that left Carson and Shanebo inside as everybody drifted back. Carlow got a bit of a run on just before half time but with the score at 8 4 at half time, you'd have thought it was well within our grasp in the second half.

However, it was Carlow that kicked on at the start of the second half and you felt the team get a bit anxious as McManus hit a couple of wides from frees. I think he is easily our best player but you just simply dont have the confidence when he goes for goal from 20 metre frees that you would have with Winker hitting it. His attempt after about 15 minutes was well saved and you feared it could be a turning point as we were not making any inroads into Carlow's lead. Fair play to the boys though, they kept going and eventually got a run of scores in the last 10 minutes to see them home. Carlow keeper made a cracking save to keep out what seemed a certain goal. Shane coming out the field was a big factor, as was McFall when he came on. Eddie Mc came much more into the game in the last 15 as well.

General observations:

- fair play to them for keeping going when they could have dropped the head (as other Antrim teams have done before)

- touch generally was quite poor. Lots of fumbles lifting the ball and lots of very short handpassess that immediately put the receiver under pressure

- McGarry had little enought to be doing and full back line was competent without being spectacular

- Half back line was strong with both Shields and McAuley excellent.

- Midfield was quiet until McFall came on, as was the half forward line, althought the wind might have had a lot to do with that. Carlow made sure to have a couple of men on McManus any time the ball came near.

- Shane was very quiet until coming out the field. Carson caught a fair amount of ball but did very little with it. Understandable in the first half when he was very much on his own and quickly surrounded but worrying in the second half when we were trying to kick on. It is all very well using him as a target man, but there has to be a plan as to what happens when he does catch it.

Anyway, good to see us staying up "on our own merits" although i wait with baited breath what the impact of Cork's relegation has on the possible re-organisation of the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 15, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
How did young Mc Greevy do ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2013, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 15, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
How did young Mc Greevy do ?

Was grand, but the other two in the half back line were just more prominent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2013, 04:35:50 PM
It's good to hear Shiels is starting to come good. He always seemed to have the ability but suffered from being a bit light and being versatile and not finding his true positon. If McRory is playing good stuff too then Shiels, McAuley and him would be a strong line. (No harm to McGreevy)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 16, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
The half back line is really settled, Mc Crory, Mc Auley, Shiels. I'd actually like Mc Greevy at midfield instead of Matthew Donnelly. I'm not saying there isn't a place for Donnelly on the team/panel but it isn't midfield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 16, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 16, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
The half back line is really settled, Mc Crory, Mc Auley, Shiels. I'd actually like Mc Greevy at midfield instead of Matthew Donnelly. I'm not saying there isn't a place for Donnelly on the team/panel but it isn't midfield.

i like matty as a hurler but i think hes too slow for the middle of the park.

our biggest weakness is the half forward line. waaaay to much ball isnt wont from our pucks or isnt won on the second ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 16, 2013, 09:04:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 16, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
The half back line is really settled, Mc Crory, Mc Auley, Shiels. I'd actually like Mc Greevy at midfield instead of Matthew Donnelly. I'm not saying there isn't a place for Donnelly on the team/panel but it isn't midfield.

Surprised that McAuley was playing as he certainly looked injured the previous Sunday against us and wasn't moving freely.

Expect to be shafted in a rejigging of Div1b (2) making that win on Sunday irrelevant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
What is the story with karl stewart?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
What is the story with karl stewart?

His injury/ training habits or non have caused a bit of controversy from within the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 16, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
What is the story with karl stewart?

His injury/ training habits or non have caused a bit of controversy from within the squad.

Hasn't hurled for the club either this year, citing work, he's a new job with unsociable hours. Not sure if he played on Sunday either, wasn't at our game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2013, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 16, 2013, 09:51:07 AM
Quote from: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
What is the story with karl stewart?

His injury/ training habits or non have caused a bit of controversy from within the squad.

Hasn't hurled for the club either this year, citing work, he's a new job with unsociable hours. Not sure if he played on Sunday either, wasn't at our game

All of which is totally understandable and the man has to work, but the manager cant have one rule for the squad and then bend it for individual players. Made a rod for his own back with that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
I agree NAG1 if people can't commit then they should not be carried. I'd prefer to see Karl playing for club and county, hopefully once things settle this will be the case. His passion for hurling is great so I hope he returns soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
I agree NAG1 if people can't commit then they should not be carried. I'd prefer to see Karl playing for club and county, hopefully once things settle this will be the case. His passion for hurling is great so I hope he returns soon

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Simon Says on April 16, 2013, 10:41:16 AM
Always been an admirer of karl, great hurler skillful and hardworking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Fanastic hurler - tough as nails!
But I agree - either 100% or not - the reason for absence is unfortunately irrelevant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
According to the county site:

   
   Ballycran   3-17     1-6 O`Donovan Rossa GAC   
   Mac Uilin CLG   3-12     1-12   Cuchullains-Dunloy   
   St John's GAC   2-15     4-10   Ballygalget   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on April 17, 2013, 10:06:03 PM
According to McQuillans FB

McQuillans GAC
about an hour ago via mobile
Senior Result: MacUílín 4-12 Dunloy 1-12 #McQGAC

good result for the Town after first 2 results. Down teams going well though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 17, 2013, 10:47:36 PM
Heavy beating for Rossa tonight, they would have been expecting better start to the season I would have thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on April 17, 2013, 10:06:03 PM
According to McQuillans FB

McQuillans GAC
about an hour ago via mobile
Senior Result: MacUílín 4-12 Dunloy 1-12 #McQGAC

good result for the Town after first 2 results. Down teams going well though.
a mate of mine was down at it and he also says it was 4-12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
doubt it will make much difference. Town beat Dunloy, Loughgiel play tonighthat was score in waterfoot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
Terrible weather for the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 18, 2013, 05:53:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
doubt it will make much difference. Town beat Dunloy, Loughgiel play tonighthat was score in waterfoot
from what I hear we've no game until next month.  ??? Cushendall game was postponed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 18, 2013, 08:35:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 17, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
According to the county site:

   
   Ballycran   3-17     1-6 O`Donovan Rossa GAC   
   Mac Uilin CLG   3-12     1-12   Cuchullains-Dunloy   
   St John's GAC   2-15     4-10   Ballygalget

I was told by one of the lads we'd won by two, not that it matters, a win is a win.

We've Cushendall on Saturday in the Ulster hurling league but AFAIK Down hurlers are having a training weekend in Dublin and we'd be missing 5 or 6 which we can ill afford, but I suppose its an opportunity for others to show their worth.

40+ lads at training at the minute, a high tide raises all boats as they say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 18, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
jesus what a bad bad night last night in ballycastle. played with the wind in the first half and in the second the wind was even worse along with the rain that was going sideways with it!

just a bad night overall and it ruined the game for everyone. both teams hit loads of wides which was expected with the wind but the goals were the difference at the end up.

neil mc auley was excellent as per usual and for us shorty had a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2013, 09:07:31 AM
We managed to overcome Armoy last night at home, first home game of the season after 3 game. And when I say overcome that's really what it's been for our first 3 games. We've done enough to beat the other team. Nothing great but a spirited performance. 3 from 3 so can't complain. Fair play to the lads on what was a sticky pitch and with light fading was a good win.

Tir na Og have made a decent start to the league also so we'll be looking to that game as the main one in the first part of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2013, 09:28:55 AM
Big win for your lads Johnny! I though the Johnnies would have had enough at home.
I couldnt argue with the result.
St Johns led in the early stage as to be expected, but Galget always looked like they were not gonna be put away.
2nd half when they had the wind they were simply better. Galget work rate (even more so against wind) was excellent. Deserved the win.
St Johns over complicated things for me. Johnston & Cunningham are to involved from the line - very vocal and not always in a good way. They seem intent on showing how much they are involved rather than letting the team play. Im still not convinced St John will bring their excellent minor team to any senior honours.

Elsewhere a good win for the Town - I thought his would be close as Ballycastle's previous results were not representative. As the league table shows. Thought Dunloy would have enough but interesting result.

Hardstation what about your lads? Bad start - clearly an issue with travelling - commitment?

Good to see St Galls not slipping up - really think with Glenarrife and Rossa out of the way the route is clear for the top tier. Even with a few slip-ups once the big ball kicks in. Then hopefully once promoted hurling gets the attention it deserves.

Postive result for St Pauls also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on April 18, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Stephen Fay working miracles with Ballygalget. A good lad and deserves his success. Co Antrim Post had him as the Galget's most influential person a few weeks back, in a preview of Div 1. Very perceptive indeed, given the turnaround from last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 19, 2013, 08:36:47 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on April 18, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Stephen Fay working miracles with Ballygalget. A good lad and deserves his success. Co Antrim Post had him as the Galget's most influential person a few weeks back, in a preview of Div 1. Very perceptive indeed, given the turnaround from last year.

Stevie is the coach and doing well, Paddy Branniff jnr is the manager. They seem to be working well together, but the most influential person is most definitely G Johnston who's like a man possessed at the minute.

We're still a step or two below the big three in Antrim though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 19, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
yous have done really well this year and its good to see, last year was a bad year for yous and it suprised me to see yous at the foot of the table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
I just read winker's first newspaper column. Highly uncontroversial.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 23, 2013, 09:47:35 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
I just read winker's first newspaper column. Highly uncontroversial.

Put it up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 23, 2013, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
I just read winker's first newspaper column. Highly uncontroversial.

What did he not say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 23, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
anything bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
I just read winker's first newspaper column. Highly uncontroversial.
I would say there was smoke coming out of the computer when they started the spelling and grammar check  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 23, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
anything bad

Just read it there, it's not to bad. All county stuff, even some good points about not hurling for 70 minutes. I would doubt if be wrote this to be honest. If he did its not to bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 11:45:38 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 23, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
anything bad

Just read it there, it's not to bad. All county stuff, even some good points about not hurling for 70 minutes. I would doubt if be wrote this to be honest. If he did its not to bad

Somebody put it up FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D

That pound better spent on a pastie to go with your chips eehh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D

That pound better spent on a pastie to go with your chips eehh

Big Patterson has eaten some chips over the years, PJ and his da also have managed a few I'd say lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 01:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D

That pound better spent on a pastie to go with your chips eehh

Big Patterson has eaten some chips over the years, PJ and his da also have managed a few I'd say lol

Young PJ is half the man now than he was on his playing days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D

That pound better spent on a pastie to go with your chips eehh


Big Patterson has eaten some chips over the years, PJ and his da also have managed a few I'd say lol

LOL you should speak to Niall he owns newsagents in cloughmills he might give you some discount on Antrim post. We would all be fat down here but chasing sheep burns up the calories
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 01:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 24, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
It's only costs a pound mr2.  ;)

I only buy it if my picture is in it ;D

That pound better spent on a pastie to go with your chips eehh

Big Patterson has eaten some chips over the years, PJ and his da also have managed a few I'd say lol

Young PJ is half the man now than he was on his playing days.

Aye they closed the chippy  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I thought it was always the city slickers who were referred to as the chip eaters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I thought it was always the city slickers who were referred to as the chip eaters.

Chip eaters, Frankies, McCooeys, WaWa's I could go on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I thought it was always the city slickers who were referred to as the chip eaters.

Chip eaters, Frankies, McCooeys, WaWa's I could go on

Red busers,,


I had to have McCooey's explained to me when I first heard it. Luckily I'd a Glenariffe man only too willing to do so. I'd never heard of it as a radio play, way before my time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 08:35:58 AM
Big PJ

Big eater.....Massive winner. Simply the best, Unbeaten in Antrim an Ulster add in an all ireland in 3 years....plus the mickey mouse ones Ulster league, Feis Cup, Antrim league, McAuley cup.....not bad for 38 year old.

His Da wasnt bad either...won an all ireland playing and managed championship winning team.

Keep eating big man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 25, 2013, 08:51:55 AM
you lost to ballycran last year in the ulster league did you not? you lost to us and cushendall last year in the league. sorry to pop that bubble there lol :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 08:35:58 AM
Big PJ

Big eater.....Massive winner (.As a manager, couldnt win a raffle as a player) Simply the best, Unbeaten in Antrim an Ulster add in an all ireland in 3 years....plus the mickey mouse ones Ulster league, Feis Cup, Antrim league, McAuley cup.....not bad for 38 year old.

His Da wasnt bad either...won an all ireland playing and managed championship winning team.

Keep eating big man

Fixed that for you there Tom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
Dunloy realist

Read the post

As a manager he has won everything....mickey mouse cups as well as the big cups...you could also add in U21 championship and reserve league, champioship, countess of antrim. His record is the best ever to come out of Ulster. FFS give the man credit. Great manager. Nothing to prove as club level.

NAG1 bit yourself but then no one ever said he was a good hurler....but when it comes to management he's the BEST
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 09:23:43 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
Dunloy realist

Read the post

As a manager he has won everything....mickey mouse cups as well as the big cups...you could also add in U21 championship and reserve league, champioship, countess of antrim. His record is the best ever to come out of Ulster. FFS give the man credit. Great manager. Nothing to prove as club level.

NAG1 bit yourself but then no one ever said he was a good hurler....but when it comes to management he's the BEST

What the best at picking up cones and getting organised?

(PS you original post just referred to 'Massive Winner')
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 09:28:17 AM
Sure if thats what you believe and if thats what he's doing then I hope he keeps doing it. Maybe you should come over an learn something or does Aidan....sorry Kevin know it all. Sure dont look that way

Give credit where credit is due

Jealous.com
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 09:28:17 AM
Sure if thats what you believe and if thats what he's doing then I hope he keeps doing it. Maybe you should come over an learn something or does Aidan....sorry Kevin know it all. Sure dont look that way

Give credit where credit is due

Jealous.com

Nothing to do with jealousy, you tell me who I was quoting in my post above and then that will give you an indication of what an 'insider' thinks of him and his input.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2013, 10:07:20 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 08:35:58 AM
Big PJ

Big eater.....Massive winner. Simply the best, Unbeaten in Antrim an Ulster add in an all ireland in 3 years....plus the mickey mouse ones Ulster league, Feis Cup, Antrim league, McAuley cup.....not bad for 38 year old.

His Da wasnt bad either...won an all ireland playing and managed championship winning team.

Keep eating big man

I've no doubt he'll continue to eat as wwe all will, very senistive up north :o I haven't even mentioned sheep ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Nag1   

Stop talking in riddles. From what i read it was your quote. Either stand by it or tell who said what
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2013, 11:17:42 AM
We're comfortable with with our relationship with sheep nowadays MR ...get into the 21st century dude  :)

TM83...I'm sure PJ would rather you didnt feel the need to "support"  :o him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 11:19:55 AM
Lots of early season lemons over by the Dall by the look of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2013, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 09:18:06 AM
Dunloy realist

Read the post

As a manager he has won everything....mickey mouse cups as well as the big cups...you could also add in U21 championship and reserve league, champioship, countess of antrim. His record is the best ever to come out of Ulster. FFS give the man credit. Great manager. Nothing to prove as club level.

NAG1 bit yourself but then no one ever said he was a good hurler....but when it comes to management he's the BEST

I thought he was a decent enough player plenty of skill and when the ball came to him he was grand, getting to the ball was a different ball game altogether, was good enough goal keeper i seem to remember
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Nag1   

Stop talking in riddles. From what i read it was your quote. Either stand by it or tell who said what

Awh come on now, think back to your news paper articles coming up the Semi Final.

SIE - no lemons here at all, just dont p*** on my boots and tell me its raining  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2013, 11:30:42 AM
He was a very good stick man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Nag1   

Stop talking in riddles. From what i read it was your quote. Either stand by it or tell who said what

Work this riddle out

P J , s. success isn't down to the fact that he can eat all the chips you can bring him. It's down to the fact he brought in a really good chip eater.

This threads making me hungry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
very good  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
Quote from: tom moore83 on April 25, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Nag1   

Stop talking in riddles. From what i read it was your quote. Either stand by it or tell who said what

Work this riddle out

P J , s. success isn't down to the fact that he can eat all the chips you can bring him. It's down to the fact he brought in a really good chip eater.

This threads making me hungry

NAH

Getting warmer  ;D

Is it lunch time yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!

btdtgtt

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Wha?
Excuse my ignorance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Wha?
Excuse my ignorance?

If you can't see the flaws in your own post, then I dont think I should be pointing them out for you really.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!

btdtgtt

::)

Barring that line of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2013, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!

More chips?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!

Loughgeil have very good hurling teams at senior for the better part of a decade, they just lacked that little something to get them over the line come Championship, more a mental thing than ability of the few times I saw them beaten in Antrim finals.

PJ has managed that with aplomb even if he recognized that he may need assistance from people outside the club, that in itself is good management IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Wha?
Excuse my ignorance?

If you can't see the flaws in your own post, then I dont think I should be pointing them out for you really.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
I think anyone giving the credit of Loughiel's success to Jim Nelson is wide of the mark.

To me it seems PJ is the main man - he deserves his dues.
The players are the guys on the pitch actually doing the business - they deserve their medals.

I think sometimes there is a desire to look for a hidden reason or see something that isnt there - instead of the obvious.

And this coming from a city man myself!

Lets face it - if Jim was so effective with his involvement with hurling team maybe St Pauls might be better off!

btdtgtt

::)

Barring that line of course.


Nope - I dont get it!

Simply saying that Loughiels success is not down to Jim Nelson.

And if Jim Nelson was some sort of a hurling oracle then St Pauls would be more of a hurling force.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
It's hard to be prophet in your own home town so to speak, but with all these full time coaches from Belfast you'd have thought the clubs would be awash with the best in coaches the Ulster council has to offer, or do they clock off a 5pm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 02:16:47 PM
Oh Johnny now you have opened a can of worms!!

1) Fully agree with the prophet in your own land comment - I believe recent times have seen much to many outsiders taking club teams. The cult / celebrity manager has developed (more so football) where clubs pour money outside their own area for a perceived messiah. Its wrong.

2) Ulster council has financed (and central council) many hurling coaches. From what I can see the main man in all of this in Antrim runs round organising pathetic school blitzes which are poorly run and even at best contribute little or nothing to developing hurling. They are a "tick-box" exercice especially when compared to soccer equivalents held at Irish league grounds (not Woodlands) and with properly turned out officials. If you are a young kid - which sport gives then best impression?

3) At senior level - Belfast has quite a number of coaches who might be held in high regard. I suppose in this sense it boils down to a person's opinion of how good or effective the coach is - but not many of the guy's we might be thinking of are coaching belfast senior hurling teams! You can make of that what you will!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
A lot of pish posted over the last couple of pages. Naming someone on here and then personally abusing them without recourse from that person is pretty sad.

Also people on here commenting upon loughgiel's set up when it's pretty obvious to those in the know that those people haven't a clue what they're talking about, is laughable. Concentrate on your own clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2013, 05:40:15 PM
Put it right then SiE?
But successful teams will always attract such attention - occupational hazard other clubs would like to have!

My simple point is I believe loughgiels success to be a product of players and back team from within the club - rather than any help from Belfast!

Much as I would like to believe city folk could teach the north Antrim hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 11:19:55 AM
Lots of early season lemons over by the Dall by the look of it.

Your right a bit personal( didnt mean any offense) you stop talking about other clubs and lemons and we will stop talking chips and loughgeil

Same rule for all then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2013, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
A lot of pish posted over the last couple of pages. Naming someone on here and then personally abusing them without recourse from that person is pretty sad.

Also people on here commenting upon loughgiel's set up when it's pretty obvious to those in the know that those people haven't a clue what they're talking about, is laughable. Concentrate on your own clubs.

Whilst I agree with you SIE....it was TM83 who elevated the mans name above a small humorous quip from MR about him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
The bitterest lemons are plucked from the tree too soon, I thought everyone knew that N_a_h.  ;)

I'm glad you agree skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
The bitterest lemons are plucked from the tree too soon, I thought everyone knew that N_a_h.  ;)

I'm glad you agree skull.

What about the the seagulls and the trawler, you all right there Eric
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
The bitterest lemons are plucked from the tree too soon, I thought everyone knew that N_a_h.  ;)

I'm glad you agree skull.

What about the the seagulls and the trawler, you all right there Eric
that man knew what he was talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2013, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 25, 2013, 06:10:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
A lot of pish posted over the last couple of pages. Naming someone on here and then personally abusing them without recourse from that person is pretty sad.

Also people on here commenting upon loughgiel's set up when it's pretty obvious to those in the know that those people haven't a clue what they're talking about, is laughable. Concentrate on your own clubs.

Whilst I agree with you SIE....it was TM83 who elevated the mans name above a small humorous quip from MR about him.



I was just sticking up for the chip eaters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2013, 08:15:56 PM
Here's the link to winker's column MR2.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/327451197579616256/photo/1/large?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=AntrimPost&utm_content=327477208753000448
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2013, 08:53:10 AM
i actually think lgiel are a good team. some great players, esp eddie mc closkey whom i think is the most consistant forward lgiel have.

i dont like the manager esp the sneaky things he does.

still doesnt change my view on the players and team.

the only lemons i like go into corona!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Under 21 HC on Monday night, how do you see these games going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 09:12:43 AM
DunloyRealist - have they run out of limes in the Bridge & Village inn?

What sneaky things is PJ being accused of?

Or is it time we left this matter?
Until a different team is successful and they become the targets of most peoples' angst!

Any U21 matches being played in the city? Or is this McCooey due a trip to the caravan!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 09:16:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 09:12:43 AM
DunloyRealist - have they run out of limes in the Bridge & Village inn?

What sneaky things is PJ being accused of?

Or is it time we left this matter?
Until a different team is successful and they become the targets of most peoples' angst!

Any U21 matches being played in the city? Or is this McCooey due a trip to the caravan!

Btdgtt

I would advise that if you don't know what he is referring to then this isn't the place for them to be aired, the lads have suggested that they don't want him discussed any further so, maybe time to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 11:30:56 AM
Yes thats fine NAG!

I have genuinely no idea - it wasnt me that aired anything of the sort - and its only natural if u don't understand something in a post to ask about it.

DR made a post - I asked about it - simple.

If you have a problem with the DR post then that his business what he puts up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 11:30:56 AM
Yes thats fine NAG!

I have genuinely no idea - it wasnt me that aired anything of the sort - and its only natural if u don't understand something in a post to ask about it.

DR made a post - I asked about it - simple.

If you have a problem with the DR post then that his business what he puts up.

I have no issue with the post whatsoever and agree with it in fact, however the lads had said that they were not comfortable with more discussion on the person in question so airing these would lead to more discussion, that was my point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2013, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 09:12:43 AM
DunloyRealist - have they run out of limes in the Bridge & Village inn?

What sneaky things is PJ being accused of?

Or is it time we left this matter?
Until a different team is successful and they become the targets of most peoples' angst!

Any U21 matches being played in the city? Or is this McCooey due a trip to the caravan!
Lol success has nothing to do with it. As I said in my post I like the lgiel team as a whole. all good players.

Lines alright with corona but still prefer lemon ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
Maybe poor wee nag just can't live in the shadows of loughgiel.   Even when we weren't winning.  He just loved to talk utter tripe!!! Grow up you gutter rat. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
Maybe poor wee nag just can't live in the shadows of loughgiel.   Even when we weren't winning.  He just loved to talk utter tripe!!! Grow up you gutter rat.

Dont need to live in any ones shadow a point was made about your manager on here which I disagreed with as it's my opinion I am completely entitled to do so.

Admittedly you's were easier to live with when you weren't winning but the lack of class hasn't changed now that you are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:47:51 PM
Cause your boys had so much class when use won your couple of championships.     It's ok nag.   Hate away.  Slabber away.    The hole county sees how stupid this is.    Jealousy is a killer.   Plain and simple.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
Maybe poor wee nag just can't live in the shadows of loughgiel.   Even when we weren't winning.  He just loved to talk utter tripe!!! Grow up you gutter rat.

Dont need to live in any ones shadow a point was made about your manager on here which I disagreed with as it's my opinion I am completely entitled to do so.Admittedly you's were easier to live with when you weren't winning but the lack of class hasn't changed now that you are.

That applies to everyone else on the board too.

All I did was ask about  someones opinion - you cant claim;
"lads had said that they were not comfortable with more discussion on the person in question so airing these would lead to more discussion"

So basically you want to have your opinion, but you want to sifle anyobody else talking about theirs?

Reagrdless on whatever the topic is - thats the nature of a discussion board.
If you just want your own opinions the write a blog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:47:51 PM
Cause your boys had so much class when use won your couple of championships.     It's ok nag.   Hate away.  Slabber away.    The hole county sees how stupid this is.    Jealousy is a killer.   Plain and simple.

No hate or jealousy just pointing out my opinion on a post here, its a discussion board that is what is supposed to happen.

What is that saying about never getting into an argument with an idiot? 

Enough said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 03:18:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
Maybe poor wee nag just can't live in the shadows of loughgiel.   Even when we weren't winning.  He just loved to talk utter tripe!!! Grow up you gutter rat.

Dont need to live in any ones shadow a point was made about your manager on here which I disagreed with as it's my opinion I am completely entitled to do so.Admittedly you's were easier to live with when you weren't winning but the lack of class hasn't changed now that you are.

That applies to everyone else on the board too.

All I did was ask about  someones opinion - you cant claim;
"lads had said that they were not comfortable with more discussion on the person in question so airing these would lead to more discussion"

So basically you want to have your opinion, but you want to sifle anyobody else talking about theirs?

Reagrdless on whatever the topic is - thats the nature of a discussion board.
If you just want your own opinions the write a blog.

Point being that you did not know what the post was referring to which is fair enough, the LG lads said they felt it was getting too personal so, my point was simply that to bring up more points about that person in relation to your question was going bring about further discussion about said individual.

By all means ask DR for clarification if you want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 26, 2013, 02:47:51 PM
Cause your boys had so much class when use won your couple of championships.     It's ok nag.   Hate away.  Slabber away.    The hole county sees how stupid this is.    Jealousy is a killer.   Plain and simple.

No hate or jealousy just pointing out my opinion on a post here, its a discussion board that is what is supposed to happen.

What is that saying about never getting into an argument with an idiot? 

Enough said.
jealousy is all it is.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
Unreal. Utter pish yesterday, utter shite today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2013, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
Unreal. Utter pish yesterday, utter shite today.

yous started it lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2013, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2013, 04:01:17 PM
Unreal. Utter pish yesterday, utter shite today.

yous started it lol
there's a difference Between banter and personally abusing someone Online. I draw the line At That.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 26, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Right everyone cam down, there's been worse things said and more personal things coming from LG posters in the past. Having said that if the big man was reading all this he might be offended so let's just forget it
What about hurling what's everyone's thoughts on the u21 games comming up. Are the county boys allowed to play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2013, 06:22:42 PM
Surely nobody can be prevented from playing championship with their club?
County reps (club players) should be available to clubs for ALL games - regrettably it has been the case they now miss league games - but for gods sake never championship!

Can anyone enlighten me as to any games in Belfast?
Who would be favourites for it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2013, 09:43:55 AM
Anyone for the Ulster league final today? I might just head up to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2013, 12:33:19 AM
Congrats to dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 12:35:41 AM
Score, report?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2013, 12:53:38 AM
Decent enough game with both teams playing without their County men which arguably affected cushendall that little bit more. Nice day for it for starters. We played with the breeze first half and made decent use of it going in at half time after scoring 12 points. Cushendall fought back well and had the game back to 2 points half way through the second half. We reacted well and pushed on again going up by six scoring a very well taken goal in the process before the dall goaled on the last puck. Both teams would be happy enough with the run out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 28, 2013, 02:27:48 AM
Has anyone retired from the Dunloy panel from last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
 ???...the answer is no

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 29, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
Understandable decision from KR to restrict the county players but it made for a bit of a sham match then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
Sham is going a bit strong NAG. As a spectator I got my moneys worth. Both teams put in a decent performance I thought. No one likes playing without their full side but the UHL is meant to be about giving fringe/young players a go. Mission accomplished in that regard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 29, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
Sham is going a bit strong NAG. As a spectator I got my moneys worth. Both teams put in a decent performance I thought. No one likes playing without their full side but the UHL is meant to be about giving fringe/young players a go. Mission accomplished in that regard

Yeah maybe it was a bit strong, but given the fact that is supposed to be an senior Ulster competition and it was a final maybe it was just a little flat. Some decent displays on both sides to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Yeah...so wind your neck in  :D

U21 Championship tonight for us. Only 2 other fixtures that I can see? Whats the deal there?

Q: Why is there no U21B championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 29, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Yeah...so wind your neck in  :D

U21 Championship tonight for us. Only 2 other fixtures that I can see? Whats the deal there?

Q: Why is there no U21B championship?

You'll be up against it tonight Skull, would think the town will be strong enough at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Yeah...so wind your neck in  :D

U21 Championship tonight for us. Only 2 other fixtures that I can see? Whats the deal there?

Q: Why is there no U21B championship?

Good time of year with no exams to hinder clubs, not sure if we have a team in but these games are preliminary so there might be other teams involved, didn't notice Loughgiel in those fixtures either.

Rossa, Dunloy, Castle, sarsfields, Gorts, Cushendall all playing this week. Leaves ourselves , Johnnies,  Loughgiel any combo teams out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 29, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Yeah...so wind your neck in  :D

U21 Championship tonight for us. Only 2 other fixtures that I can see? Whats the deal there?

Q: Why is there no U21B championship?

You'll be up against it tonight Skull, would think the town will be strong enough at this level.

We lost young Nicky McKeague to a bad shoulder injury a couple of weeks ago. He's a big loss for us. Did Ballycastle win minor 3 years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2013, 08:58:25 PM
U21s     Dunloy 0-10 ballycastle 5-10.

I'm not sure but I think I recognised that ref from somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
Mouthing off no doubt :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
Mouthing off no doubt :)
I heard "ballix" being used liberally right enough .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:02:51 PM
Mouthing off no doubt :)
I heard "ballix" being used liberally right enough .

No he used the term 'ballbeg' a lot and was seen eating chips at halftime ffs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Hates being the centre of attention ;). In fairness though hearing he's doing a good job but don't tell him that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 29, 2013, 09:40:25 PM
U-21 We beat Rossa 3-17 to 1-8. Rossa were 1-7 to 1-5 in front at half time after playing with the wind, they just didn't turn up second half. Hard to read too much into a game like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Hates being the centre of attention ;). In fairness though hearing he's doing a good job but don't tell him that

Once you start blowing smoke up a referees arse thats them fcuked  :o

We were always going to up against it tonight. This group of players haven't been close to collective success through juvenile and it told on them tonight as we put in some great work in the first half but lacked the belief to capitalize on our efforts because the chances were there to put Ballycastle under pressure but in truth we buckled just when we needed conviction and purpose in our play. Not saying that we would have won (I dont think we would have) but we essentially handed the game to them as a result of our missed chances. These lads trained very well for the game and many I believe have the potential to move into senior.......but they all need to think about leaving the baggage of underage hammerings in the past and move forward. Its doing them no good. Throw the shackles off lads and believe in yourselves a bit more in the season ahead (be it senior or senior reserve). Effort cannot be faulted. Good luck to the black and amber in the next round


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
No he used the term 'ballbeg' a lot and was seen eating chips at halftime ffs!!

You sure it wasnt the umpire eating the chips during the first half MR? The waft of vinegar must have made his eyes water and he lost the sight of the ball going over the bar  ;)

Good game btw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 29, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 29, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Hates being the centre of attention ;). In fairness though hearing he's doing a good job but don't tell him that

Once you start blowing smoke up a referees arse thats them fcuked  :o

We were always going to up against it tonight. This group of players haven't been close to collective success through juvenile and it told on them tonight as we put in some great work in the first half but lacked the belief to capitalize on our efforts because the chances were there to put Ballycastle under pressure but in truth we buckled just when we needed conviction and purpose in our play. Not saying that we would have won (I dont think we would have) but we essentially handed the game to them as a result of our missed chances. These lads trained very well for the game and many I believe have the potential to move into senior.......but they all need to think about leaving the baggage of underage hammerings in the past and move forward. Its doing them no good. Throw the shackles off lads and believe in yourselves a bit more in the season ahead (be it senior or senior reserve). Effort cannot be faulted. Good luck to the black and amber in the next round


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
No he used the term 'ballbeg' a lot and was seen eating chips at halftime ffs!!

You sure it wasnt the umpire eating the chips during the first half MR? The waft of vinegar must have made his eyes water and he lost the sight of the ball going over the bar  ;)

Good game btw

Strong in places but the Town had better players in most areas, playing a high direct ball down the middle was always going to favour big Donnelly, and very un Dunloy like yous missed a lot of scoreable shots.

Some decent lads and young Elliot is a cracking hurler, plenty pace and a direct hurler. Some work to reach senior standard I'd say for a few but getting regular games at a higher level will bring them on.

Ballycastle have some cracking players in fairness and should do well enough though I haven't seen the others, Johnnies and Cushendall should be the main threat though.

The chip eater was sure that it was wide, what can I say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2013, 12:12:46 AM
We beat out and out favourites Ballycastle at U21 a few years ago raining ball down on Hippy who was the big dog at that time in U21. Sometimes it works taking the game to an oppositions big players but its a risk that can backfire. It was the lack of conviction when it came to nailing the scores which really hurt us. Other thing was that we left our full back line very exposed when they had real pace inside...not a nice place to be when you're the last man and there's no one around you for 40 yards. Ballycastle were better technically in more places than us that's for sure and should make a decent shape of it in the next round.


....Well if the chip eater thought it was wide ...it was wide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 30, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
have to agree with you there skull. our lads didnt believe they could win that. added to that with 7 frees missed and then those goals just kills a team. some decent performaces from some of our lads. young saul from the town is unreal, that lad will just get better all the time! seen him play soccer there a few weeks ago for ballycastle v kilrea down at the coleraine showgrounds and he was brillaint there as well. he has tallent to burn!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 30, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
have to agree with you there skull. our lads didnt believe they could win that. added to that with 7 frees missed and then those goals just kills a team. some decent performaces from some of our lads. young saul from the town is unreal, that lad will just get better all the time! seen him play soccer there a few weeks ago for ballycastle v kilrea down at the coleraine showgrounds and he was brillaint there as well. he has tallent to burn!

DR just out of curiosity who would you have said put in you better performances?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 30, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
have to agree with you there skull. our lads didnt believe they could win that. added to that with 7 frees missed and then those goals just kills a team. some decent performaces from some of our lads. young saul from the town is unreal, that lad will just get better all the time! seen him play soccer there a few weeks ago for ballycastle v kilrea down at the coleraine showgrounds and he was brillaint there as well. he has tallent to burn!

The frees weren't hit with any conviction, no natural free taker as a few different boys hit them. 14 for Ballcastle was a busy player and the lad up front wanted to run at the defence all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
These young fellas from the town should soon be moving into the senior panel. A future force to be reckoned with by the look of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
These young fellas from the town should soon be moving into the senior panel. A future force to be reckoned with by the look of it.

Its all about the transition and if they don't leave and so on, staying at home isn't always an option, young lads go off to college and are lost to the club, harder in the country due to employment chances
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 30, 2013, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
These young fellas from the town should soon be moving into the senior panel. A future force to be reckoned with by the look of it.

Its all about the transition and if they don't leave and so on, staying at home isn't always an option, young lads go off to college and are lost to the club, harder in the country due to employment chances

Not sure about that MR2.
Plenty of people leaving Belfast seeking employment you must be recession proof!
And they leave to study abroad from Belfast too u know!
And "other" distractions!
Players lost in the crucial say 17-21 bracket as big a problem for clubs regardless if rural or urban.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 11:10:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 30, 2013, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2013, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
These young fellas from the town should soon be moving into the senior panel. A future force to be reckoned with by the look of it.

Its all about the transition and if they don't leave and so on, staying at home isn't always an option, young lads go off to college and are lost to the club, harder in the country due to employment chances

Not sure about that MR2.
Plenty of people leaving Belfast seeking employment you must be recession proof!
And they leave to study abroad from Belfast too u know!
And "other" distractions!
Players lost in the crucial say 17-21 bracket as big a problem for clubs regardless if rural or urban.

Yes, teaching peopel who are unemployed lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 01, 2013, 08:46:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 30, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
have to agree with you there skull. our lads didnt believe they could win that. added to that with 7 frees missed and then those goals just kills a team. some decent performaces from some of our lads. young saul from the town is unreal, that lad will just get better all the time! seen him play soccer there a few weeks ago for ballycastle v kilrea down at the coleraine showgrounds and he was brillaint there as well. he has tallent to burn!

DR just out of curiosity who would you have said put in you better performances?

Oran Quinn played well after a shakey start, hes came on leaps and bounds this year and is now looking like a permant fixture on our senior team at corner back. Also Karl O'Kane (son of Gary) played a good game and considering hes still a minor that bodes well for the future.
A worry for me is the lack of forwards that we have, Nigel Elliott was left with too much to do and had to drop out to try and get the ball more, but most of them are back again next year.
Ballycastle look to be a serious contender over the next few years at senior level. the youth they have coming through is great to see.
i also noticed our U16 teams have another ding dong game with each other recently from the same too teams from U14 last year. i cant wait to see these groups of players at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
Just reading here on sambos section of Antrim post. No minor manager and not fielding WTF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
Just reading here on sambos section of Antrim post. No minor manager and not fielding WTF

I think this is made even worse when it's combined with the advances made in other counties.
The fact the people are being paid good full-time salaries during tough economic times.
Why?
Well those other counties made proper appointments!
They also see the bigger picture and go about things in a more professional manner - we have some sub-standard paid officials who for too long have not been held to account becasue our clubs have ensure we will remain the best at senior in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 09:09:07 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
Just reading here on sambos section of Antrim post. No minor manager and not fielding WTF

I think this is made even worse when it's combined with the advances made in other counties.
The fact the people are being paid good full-time salaries during tough economic times.
Why?
Well those other counties made proper appointments!
They also see the bigger picture and go about things in a more professional manner - we have some sub-standard paid officials who for too long have not been held to account becasue our clubs have ensure we will remain the best at senior in Ulster.

Is it me or are all clubs feeling more disenfranchised with the county board than usual.  Us the clubs have to take some responsibility to as there seems to be a lack of interest for the county scene. This is going to rub of on young players and possible managers. Pity we didn't have a strong character at county level to maybe approach the clubs, Ask them what can be done to improve relations. Or maybe that's not the problem at all. Just not enough good will there ( clubs and county )for under age development. I think we have some smashing young hurlers but if they are going to compete we need annual programme every year like Sambo And woody done with shorty, graffin hippy etc at minor level. This is all very sad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 09:37:53 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
Just reading here on sambos section of Antrim post. No minor manager and not fielding WTF

Both Derry and Antrim failed to field at minor this weekend I heard from a lad involved with the Down minors.

How did Antrim county board allow that to happen?

Will it be a case of 'it'll be alright on the night' come Ulster minor championship time?

From what I can remember full time coaches are forbidden from taking managerial roles with counties they are coaching in, not sure about the logic, but there might be a good reason for it I'm not aware of it.

Down seems to be getting its structures for underage hurling in place with Gerard McGrattan minor manager and Paul Flynn taking the U-21's along with Stevie McAree from Ballycran. As both Flynn and McAree are involved with the seniors and it being a young panel it makes a bit of sense for a change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 09:59:49 AM
Putting structures in place is exactly what our paid Development/ Officials are in place to do. Their job is not to be out coaching 24/7 but putting in place things to actually help the coaches who are on the ground, improve them and recognise the work that they put in.

Development of correct competitions structures and development squads is a key part of this which is being neglected but that takes leadership and it is sadly lacking in this respect, from both Antrim and Ulster level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
We have difficulty getting our young lads to go to development squads ..... if their mates aren't going then then dont want to go .... bottom line is that it requires the parents of these talented kids to back it up and be prepared to get their lad to training and commit to the dev squad system

The biggest problem in Antrim is we don't have enough bodies who are prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Criticism of poor leadership may very well be warranted but its the boys who decide to leave others to flounder rather than choose to get involved who are the real problem. The club/county has become a badge of allegiance/convenience for a lot of bluffers. Wear the jersey down the pub but do feck all to help it thrive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 09:59:49 AM
Putting structures in place is exactly what are paid Development/ Officials are in place to do. Their job is not to be out coaching 24/7 but putting in place things to actually help the coaches who are on the ground, improve them and recognise the work that they put in.

Development of correct competitions structures and development squads is a key part of this which is being neglected but that takes leadership and it is sadly lacking in this respect, from both Antrim and Ulster level.

Yes that's all true but what I would like to know is. If we ever got a CB that was more proactive with the clubs about sorting the problem. Would the clubs respond as club attitude towards county teams are not as positive as better counties. I do t think we can draw direct comparisons with say Kilkenny as there minors can participate in all club activities and county because they half an our away max from training, challenge and matches. Our lads spend more time on buses than they do hurling. So we need different structures. We can moan about the CB presently because they are not doing a good job but what if they came with a good plan, is there enough good will to implement it at club and college activities expense

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
We have difficulty getting our young lads to go to development squads ..... if their mates aren't going then then dont want to go .... bottom line is that it requires the parents of these talented kids to back it up and be prepared to get their lad to training and commit to the dev squad system

The biggest problem in Antrim is we don't have enough bodies who are prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Criticism of poor leadership may very well be warranted but its the boys who decide to leave others to flounder rather than choose to get involved who are the real problem. The club/county has become a badge of allegiance/convenience for a lot of bluffers. Wear the jersey down the pub but do feck all to help it thrive

Would agree Skull but the fact that these squads aren't valued partly is to do with the leadership, making them worthwhile places to go to and be involved in. Obviously we need parents/ volunteers to help in this process but there is a distinct lack of investment as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 10:44:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 09:59:49 AM
Putting structures in place is exactly what our paid Development/ Officials are in place to do. Their job is not to be out coaching 24/7 but putting in place things to actually help the coaches who are on the ground, improve them and recognise the work that they put in.

Development of correct competitions structures and development squads is a key part of this which is being neglected but that takes leadership and it is sadly lacking in this respect, from both Antrim and Ulster level.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year

Getting a yellow card for slabbering at a referee is an awful waste of a yellow card, you might always need it later  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year

Was it the same player on a number of different occasions MR2? If so did you not feel that a yellow card would have been appropriate and following on maybe a 2nd?

Genuine question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2013, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year

Was it the same player on a number of different occasions MR2? If so did you not feel that a yellow card would have been appropriate and following on maybe a 2nd?

Genuine question

Personally I'd make it 30 yards. Players need to understand that
a) Just because they didnt see any infringement doesn't mean there wasn't one
b) If the referee was duped or simply made a mistake by giving a free .. that's just the way it goes and all the whinging in the world isn't going to stop it...that doesnt mean you cant show a respectful level of annoyance at the decision
c) Once you start blaming the referee for everything, the reality is that you are playing a part in the teams drop in performance. Easy target when the honest reasons why things are going well are just too difficult to accept  (I can think of several lazy frees we gave away the other night...who do we blame for those?)


I though milltown refereed the game very well indeed. Looked interested and up with the play at all times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:52:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year

Getting a yellow card for slabbering at a referee is an awful waste of a yellow card, you might always need it later  ;)

Various players, no need to show yellow cards. There was no more slabbering in the second half so I believe it worked. In fairness to the lads it wasn't the worst I've heard over the years but once one lad starts it seems to be fair game for most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2013, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 01, 2013, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 01, 2013, 08:54:17 AM
Heard that it would have been very close if Dunloy had taken half there chances. Missed a lot of good point scoring chances and a clear goal chance too.  Ciaran Clarke scored 2 goals from 20m frees I heard too.  Think that about 8/9 of that team played U21 last year and they were missing 2 more from injury. A lot of those boys have senior experience too so hopefully they can make a good go of defnding the title.

Yeah match was closer than scoreboard suggest. As said earlier we lost our main free taker to injury, he would have popped over the seven misses easy. We where on top for the first 15 but kept shooting wides. Our boys to Lippy about frees and the ref used every opportunity to massage his ego and moved to ball in for a Clarke special. Ballycastle where more composed and clinical on there build up to scores in the forward lines so well deserved.

You have answered the reason as to why the frees where moved forward, had they have kept quite then this would have resulted in a 3-12 to 0-10 scoreline. So when the referee applies the rules he's massaging his ego? Don't make me laugh it's a hurling game and if someone wanted to massage his ego he'd be doing something completely different than running around the pitch taking abuse.

Answer me this, when a player is lippy to you when you referee a game what would your actions be? The referee committee wanted the ball moved forward 30 yards this year

Was it the same player on a number of different occasions MR2? If so did you not feel that a yellow card would have been appropriate and following on maybe a 2nd?

Genuine question

Personally I'd make it 30 yards. Players need to understand that
a) Just because they didnt see any infringement doesn't mean there wasn't one
b) If the referee was duped or simply made a mistake by giving a free .. that's just the way it goes and all the whinging in the world isn't going to stop it...that doesnt mean you cant show a respectful level of annoyance at the decision
c) Once you start blaming the referee for everything, the reality is that you are playing a part in the teams drop in performance. Easy target when the honest reasons why things are going well are just too difficult to accept  (I can thing of several lazy frees we gave away the other night...who do we blame for those?)


I though milltown refereed the game very well indeed. Looked interested and up with the play at all times

And management along the line need to enforce that as its more often than not counterproductive in a referee's attitude to a team and loses focus of the players involved.

There's very few players can question a referees decision during a game without coming over as aggressive and throwing out the expletives all to readily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2013, 01:02:36 PM
What if your 30 yards from the posts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

As regards massaging ego - perhaps a select fe giving the rest a bad name.
Similar story with poor standard of refs - it doesnt apply to all.

Interesting stat with the mileage - you any idea of how much distance covered at the top level?

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

As regards massaging ego - perhaps a select fe giving the rest a bad name.
Similar story with poor standard of refs - it doesnt apply to all.

Interesting stat with the mileage - you any idea of how much distance covered at the top level?

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee

Non at all, I was just always interested knowing. Will do it in a range of games to get a better idea. Strangely I didn't come off feeling like I'd ran 4.4 miles, far from it. Would like to know what a player covers during a match.

Referees can have bad games too, just like players, my bad game is only round the corner :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

As regards massaging ego - perhaps a select fe giving the rest a bad name.
Similar story with poor standard of refs - it doesnt apply to all.

Interesting stat with the mileage - you any idea of how much distance covered at the top level?

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee

Non at all, I was just always interested knowing. Will do it in a range of games to get a better idea. Strangely I didn't come off feeling like I'd ran 4.4 miles, far from it. Would like to know what a player covers during a match.

Referees can have bad games too, just like players, my bad game is only round the corner :o

When are you refereeing us and Cushendall??  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 04:12:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 01, 2013, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

As regards massaging ego - perhaps a select fe giving the rest a bad name.
Similar story with poor standard of refs - it doesnt apply to all.

Interesting stat with the mileage - you any idea of how much distance covered at the top level?

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee

Non at all, I was just always interested knowing. Will do it in a range of games to get a better idea. Strangely I didn't come off feeling like I'd ran 4.4 miles, far from it. Would like to know what a player covers during a match.

Referees can have bad games too, just like players, my bad game is only round the corner :o

When are you refereeing us and Cushendall??  ;D

Soon!!!!!! Sure it's just a bitta craic  ;) 

Skull must have taken the brown envelope out before I got there on Monday, so Johnney, sort it out ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
Good man mr2
If you weren't doing it on Monday your Certainly giving yourself a rub now. No complaints , I said our lads should t be mouthing so they learned the hard way. Maybe if every ref acted the same they would know better maybe not. That was a bit of crack by the way next time ill put on a few smileys.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
Good man mr2
If you weren't doing it on Monday your Certainly giving yourself a rub now. No complaints , I said our lads should t be mouthing so they learned the hard way. Maybe if every ref acted the same they would know better maybe not. That was a bit of crack by the way next time ill put on a few smileys.

I know, thick skin anyways so in the right job. Listen your right consistency totally required across the board. Players will react that's fine and as long as its within reason then I usually explain and wave it on. Been there done it so I know the craic.

I wonder are they running this off every week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on May 01, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2013, 02:03:03 PM
Its 30yards in a more advantagous position - so a free out the wing could be moved in towards the goal.
If it's already on the 21 and straight in front of the goals I would say the Ref would probably use discretion - yellow card is severe abuse, and if not tell the player to clear off.
After all our refs are always entirely courteous themselves arent they!

If the referee moves the ball forward for being lippy then automatically the teams should know (regardless of what they think) that referee will move the ball forward, It's a no brainer (as he massages he's ego,  ;D)

As regards massaging ego - perhaps a select fe giving the rest a bad name.
Similar story with poor standard of refs - it doesnt apply to all.

Interesting stat with the mileage - you any idea of how much distance covered at the top level?

The referee can make mistakes, we all do, but he doesnt set out to do it hurling is the hardest game to referee as the ball gets whacked about 60 yards further if there is a strong wind. I'd covered 4.4 miles the other night, I've a GPS watch and was wondering what distance you'd cover in a game as a referee

Non at all, I was just always interested knowing. Will do it in a range of games to get a better idea. Strangely I didn't come off feeling like I'd ran 4.4 miles, far from it. Would like to know what a player covers during a match.

Referees can have bad games too, just like players, my bad game is only round the corner :o

Heard herbie covered 6/7 mile 2 years ago in a all Ireland series match (not sure which comp but was a senior game) the only player who covered more distance than him was chb for the winning team. He had GPS on him that day. National refs have to reach level 17 on a bleep test also to make panel for championship. Mibag could maybe clarify this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
17.2 I was told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 02, 2013, 08:20:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2013, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 01, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
Good man mr2
If you weren't doing it on Monday your Certainly giving yourself a rub now. No complaints , I said our lads should t be mouthing so they learned the hard way. Maybe if every ref acted the same they would know better maybe not. That was a bit of crack by the way next time ill put on a few smileys.

I know, thick skin anyways so in the right job. Listen your right consistency totally required across the board. Players will react that's fine and as long as its within reason then I usually explain and wave it on. Been there done it so I know the craic.

I wonder are they running this off every week?

Monday 6th May 2013
Friends Of Antrim U21 Hurling Championship
Time    Team 1    Score    Score                  Team 2       
7 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---                               Lamh Dhearg                                         
7 30 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---                       St Mary's Rasharkin                 
7 30 PM    Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields    ---    ---Mac Uilin CLG             
7 30 PM    Loughgiel Shamrocks    ---    ---         St John's GAC    

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures-results/?countyBoardID=1&fixturesOnly=Y&daysAfter=7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 02, 2013, 12:20:02 PM
http://www.itsnotbadatall.com/funny_pictures/html/Sexy_Referee.html

Mr2 here's the real problem :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2013, 12:57:41 PM
Christ!!  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 04, 2013, 08:55:32 AM
7 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---                               Lamh Dhearg                                         
7 30 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---                       St Mary's Rasharkin                 
7 30 PM    Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields    ---    ---Mac Uilin CLG             
7 30 PM    Loughgiel Shamrocks    ---    ---         St John's GAC   

Cushendall, St Galls and Shams for the U21 semi finals

Ballycastle could have a tough time with Sarsfields. Paddies dumped them out 2 years ago and this ref has some history with the Town too. He sent off 2 players and management pair in a league game last year.  Sarsfields to win could be a good bet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 04, 2013, 08:55:32 AM
7 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---                               Lamh Dhearg                                         
7 30 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---                       St Mary's Rasharkin                 
7 30 PM    Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields    ---    ---Mac Uilin CLG             
7 30 PM    Loughgiel Shamrocks    ---    ---         St John's GAC   

Cushendall, St Galls and Shams for the U21 semi finals

Ballycastle could have a tough time with Sarsfields. Paddies dumped them out 2 years ago and this ref has some history with the Town too. He sent off 2 players and management pair in a league game last year.  Sarsfields to win could be a good bet.

not happening IMO Ballycastle are a serious team and would beat most division 2 teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 04, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
Our boys beat Cushendall tonight in rearranged league game - 2-11 to 2-10

UNBELIEVABLE ! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 04, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
Our boys beat Cushendall tonight in rearranged league game - 2-11 to 2-10

UNBELIEVABLE ! ;D
great result for yous minder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 04, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 04, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
Our boys beat Cushendall tonight in rearranged league game - 2-11 to 2-10

UNBELIEVABLE ! ;D
great result for yous minder.

that is some result. well done Glenarriffe!

The Town maybe need to ask questions about the recorded result of that Dunloy match!!! Points difference  might count!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 04, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 04, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 04, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
Our boys beat Cushendall tonight in rearranged league game - 2-11 to 2-10

UNBELIEVABLE ! ;D
great result for yous minder.

that is some result. well done Glenarriffe!

The Town maybe need to ask questions about the recorded result of that Dunloy match!!! Points difference  might count!

Dall were missing quite a few but still didn't expect that, should give our fellas a bit of belief in what will be a tough task to stay up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 05, 2013, 07:29:18 AM
The score flattered Cushendall, we scored one goal very late from a 21 yard free and our other goal came in the first half when the Glenariff goalie dropped the ball in the net from a free from about 90 yards. We were absolutely pathetic, no fight, no spirit and no ideas from the sideline, getting beat and we only made 2 substitutions and no positional changes. That is 3 defeats in our last 4 games, something needs to change and change quickly. Worst result for our club in a long long time. Disgusted but fair play to Glenariff they wanted it more and fully deserved to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 05, 2013, 08:54:18 AM
Good luck to the lads today. A bit if revenge would be sweet against those boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2013, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 05, 2013, 07:29:18 AM
The score flattered Cushendall, we scored one goal very late from a 21 yard free and our other goal came in the first half when the Glenariff goalie dropped the ball in the net from a free from about 90 yards. We were absolutely pathetic, no fight, no spirit and no ideas from the sideline, getting beat and we only made 2 substitutions and no positional changes. That is 3 defeats in our last 4 games, something needs to change and change quickly. Worst result for our club in a long long time. Disgusted but fair play to Glenariff they wanted it more and fully deserved to win.

A very frank and honest post, better to lose early on than later on in the year when it matters. Great win for Glenariff all the same and maybe a shot in th earm for them after some really poor results of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 05, 2013, 03:56:54 PM
Wm 2 up at half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 05, 2013, 04:34:36 PM
Antrim win 3-18 to 2-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 05, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
Great result for all involved!!!   Well done lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 05, 2013, 06:58:35 PM
Took Antrim long enough to get to grips with Westmeath, Westmeath had a strong breeze in first half and had enough chances to be up by 5 or 6 but a 2 point lead was never going to be enough. Karl Stewart must have taken leave of his senses, he came on as a sub, was on the pitch less than 30 seconds I would say, pulled round his man and got a straight red. Against a better team it could have been a killer, Westmeath were starting to run out of gas before they had a man sent off. Big Carson started poorly but came into it well in the second half, young Beattie took off after about 20 minutes, he was very poor and seemed totally disinterested.

Should beat Laois but Galway could be nasty.

Crowd of about 400-500 I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 05, 2013, 06:58:35 PM
Took Antrim long enough to get to grips with Westmeath, Westmeath had a strong breeze in first half and had enough chances to be up by 5 or 6 but a 2 point lead was never going to be enough. Karl Stewart must have taken leave of his senses, he came on as a sub, was on the pitch less than 30 seconds I would say, pulled round his man and got a straight red. Against a better team it could have been a killer, Westmeath were starting to run out of gas before they had a man sent off. Big Carson started poorly but came into it well in the second half, young Beattie took off after about 20 minutes, he was very poor and seemed totally disinterested.

Should beat Laois but Galway could be nasty.

Crowd of about 400-500 I would say.

That's a few reds for the county of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 05, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
Karl Stewarts action was that of a lad who simply doesn't want to play hurling but couldn't be bothered telling anyone.

Agree with minder big Carson done well in the end and should have had few scores in first half

Didn't realise dall had lost as many
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 05, 2013, 10:04:21 PM
If Karl didn't want to play then why would he have went back. He was off the panel and had given his reasons so didn't need to. A Silly action today by karl and obviously one that hadn't much though put into it, bit like your statement saffron. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onion Bag on May 05, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Sorry for hijacking the thread lads, can anyone tell me the full management team for Antrim senior hurlers? Cheers
Oh and sorry where they are from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 05, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
Could have easily cost Antrim dearly. He couldn't be bothered. This way it takes Him out of playing for a while.  Some of these guys invent reasons.  Ultimately they couldn't be bothered.  He has a lot mileage on the clock just come out and say it as opposed to having to be asked.  I know many of the panel were very annoyed and that's down to lack lustered approach from him all year. I have no doubt his cheer leader will rally in behind him though.  Good to see young talent like Casey and Clarke getting run out


See dick was the side kick
Where is pj senior thought he was involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on May 06, 2013, 08:48:42 AM
Right, just so I get your story right. Karl gave up 2/3 nights a week for past few weeks after rejoining the panel, travelled to mullingar to playin the championship just so he could get sent off with a straight red, and all because he couldn't be bothered telling someone he didn't want to play. Even from you saffron that is a bit silly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 05, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
Could have easily cost Antrim dearly. He couldn't be bothered. This way it takes Him out of playing for a while.  Some of these guys invent reasons.  Ultimately they couldn't be bothered.  He has a lot mileage on the clock just come out and say it as opposed to having to be asked.  I know many of the panel were very annoyed and that's down to lack lustered approach from him all year. I have no doubt his cheer leader will rally in behind him though.  Good to see young talent like Casey and Clarke getting run out


See dick was the side kick
Where is pj senior thought he was involved
as I posted at the time of his appointment, Pj is a selector. He has nothing to do with the training of the team or the team selected on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 06, 2013, 11:18:22 AM
Thought I would have drawn out his cheer leader by now.  Have to say that's what I thought a selector did. Ie help at training and on the day.  Hey u learn something everyday on this site. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 06, 2013, 11:18:22 AM
Thought I would have drawn out his cheer leader by now.  Have to say that's what I thought a selector did. Ie help at training and on the day.  Hey u learn something everyday on this site.
He's a selector. The clue is in the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Less of the harshness towards Karl, how many on here can say they have put in what he as for Antrim. A great gifted player with a hot streak in him, not the first and not the last in Antrim. Well done to all the panel yesterday. Laois give Westmeath a good beating in the league final, could be tight enough away to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 06, 2013, 11:18:22 AM
Thought I would have drawn out his cheer leader by now.  Have to say that's what I thought a selector did. Ie help at training and on the day.  Hey u learn something everyday on this site.
He's a selector. The clue is in the title.
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I oh I see he's a selector but he doesn't select. Are you trying to say he helps to source new talent, that's more like a scout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Less of the harshness towards Karl, how many on here can say they have put in what he as for Antrim. A great gifted player with a hot streak in him, not the first and not the last in Antrim. Well done to all the panel yesterday. Laois give Westmeath a good beating in the league final, could be tight enough away to them.

+1 if Karl has one problem he ain't cute enough when reacting to some plank pulling on him first. When it comes to southern umpires and linesmen they never see the original offender. Either they are better at it or they just don't like us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
He selects players for the panel. Hence he's a selector. Ryan manages the team, hence he's the manager. Not that hard to understand.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:21:34 PM
Not just a southern thing, the person that acts first normally gets away with it as by the time anyone notices the man is only reacting and thats what the crowd and referees/umpires/linesmen see. Get your retaliation in first seems to work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:21:34 PM
Not just a southern thing, the person that acts first normally gets away with it as by the time anyone notices the man is only reacting and thats what the crowd and referees/umpires/linesmen see. Get your retaliation in first seems to work.

That's a sad reality. Your right happens up here to. But we have had some red cards at county level the last few years are we that dirty. It's time our boys learn to react when the time is right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
He selects players for the panel. Hence he's a selector. Ryan manages the team, hence he's the manager. Not that hard to understand.  ;)

If He isn't helping to select teams for matches he's not a selector. If he selects new panelist for Ryan to look at I would call him a scout. Main thing is he's helping so whatever he does it can't be a bad thing. Just think you have his title wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:52:27 PM
Are the only two trainers Ryan and O'Kane then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 01:35:36 PM
As far as I know dick does most of the training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 06, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Less of the harshness towards Karl, how many on here can say they have put in what he as for Antrim. A great gifted player with a hot streak in him, not the first and not the last in Antrim. Well done to all the panel yesterday. Laois give Westmeath a good beating in the league final, could be tight enough away to them.

+1 if Karl has one problem he ain't cute enough when reacting to some plank pulling on him first. When it comes to southern umpires and linesmen they never see the original offender. Either they are better at it or they just don't like us.

Problem with that theory NAH is that nobody pulled but Karl. The defender put his shoulder into Karl as nearly every defender that has ever lived has done to a sub coming on and Karl grossly overreacted and swung round him. The defender then went down roaring (which was an overreaction itself as, while contact was undoubtedly made, he got the "middle" rather than the "end" of the stick). All this happened 5 yards from the linesman who saw both the initial incident and Karl's reaction.

While we might have grounds to be paranoid about how (some) refs treat us (I have one in particular in mind), the way this incident was dealt with wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 06, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 06, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
Less of the harshness towards Karl, how many on here can say they have put in what he as for Antrim. A great gifted player with a hot streak in him, not the first and not the last in Antrim. Well done to all the panel yesterday. Laois give Westmeath a good beating in the league final, could be tight enough away to them.

+1 if Karl has one problem he ain't cute enough when reacting to some plank pulling on him first. When it comes to southern umpires and linesmen they never see the original offender. Either they are better at it or they just don't like us.

Problem with that theory NAH is that nobody pulled but Karl. The defender put his shoulder into Karl as nearly every defender that has ever lived has done to a sub coming on and Karl grossly overreacted and swung round him. The defender then went down roaring (which was an overreaction itself as, while contact was undoubtedly made, he got the "middle" rather than the "end" of the stick). All this happened 5 yards from the linesman who saw both the initial incident and Karl's reaction.

While we might have grounds to be paranoid about how (some) refs treat us (I have one in particular in mind), the way this incident was dealt with wasn't one of them.

Fair enough irish news got it wrong then. Good to hear a report from someone that seen it. After the shanagans of last year . Forgive me for being paranoid
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
I stopped buying the IN years ago . Terrible reporters with an agenda.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 06, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
I stopped buying the IN years ago . Terrible reporters with an agenda.
Who? What agenda?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on May 06, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 06, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 06, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
I stopped buying the IN years ago . Terrible reporters with an agenda.
Who? What agenda?
Indeed?? What do you mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 06, 2013, 09:00:55 PM
Just back from lgiel v st. johns. Final score lgiel 2-11 St. John's 0-21.
St. John's near blew this one big time as they were playing well and 0-12 to 0-06 up at half time. Conceeded a goal in the first min of the second half and a very soft goal from a free.
Strangely a lot of people going down with cramp which I found odd.
Good game for a neutral to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onion Bag on May 06, 2013, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 05, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Sorry for hijacking the thread lads, can anyone tell me the full management team for Antrim senior hurlers? Cheers
Oh and sorry where they are from?

Nobody knows then???????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 06, 2013, 11:23:42 PM
Ryan, Dick O'Kane, PJ Mullan senior, and Jackie probably still doing the sticks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 07, 2013, 06:37:09 AM
Who are selectors for loughgiel sie and do they select and not attend the games. Have no problem with pj senior,  just think he is not in the normal selectors role. Actually had put it down to poor health and If that was the case I wish him well. He Has been good servant for the county.

St. John's a superior outfit last night but nearly blew it. Hear big fellow nugent is only 5 th year. Should have left him at edge of square. Very impressed with the no 11. Also we sham at 10 showed great fight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 07, 2013, 08:52:43 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 07, 2013, 06:37:09 AM
Who are selectors for loughgiel sie and do they select and not attend the games. Have no problem with pj senior,  just think he is not in the normal selectors role. Actually had put it down to poor health and If that was the case I wish him well. He Has been good servant for the county.

St. John's a superior outfit last night but nearly blew it. Hear big fellow nugent is only 5 th year. Should have left him at edge of square. Very impressed with the no 11. Also we sham at 10 showed great fight

was counting the selectors/management for each side last night. 8 for St. Johns and the same for Lgiel. bloody hell thats some people on a side line, and everyone seemed to be giving instructions. a bit weird.

was impressed with st johns in periods and in periods they looked poor. the number 11 for st johns had a good game, impressed with him. the number 8 for lgiel in midfield had a good game and fielded well throughout. tho the number 2 for lgiel seemed intent on getting sent off at times with his slapping off the ball and got his dues with that stupit block on him at the end and conceeded the important 4th point between the sides.
good game tho to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on May 07, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
loughgiel had 5 along the line
pj
dominic
ciaran
martin
nial

pj o mullan senior a antrim selector. unfortunately he is sick at present not even doing his secretery duties. hope things work out for him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on May 07, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
RE: Dunloy Realist

These are  the guidelines that have been issued by the County for Championship games re personnel on the line! :) :)

1   A maximum of 3 team officials, plus 1 club Officer, plus 1 medical attendant
     are permitted on the sidelines (Total 5)
     Fine of £50 for non-compliance

     Additionally 4 Hurley / Water carriers, with bibs, may be stationed at
     designated points. (1 on the 22mtr line & 1 on the 45 mtr line and vice versa on
     the opposite side of the pitch) (Total 4)
     Water Carriers are not permitted to enter field of play.     
     Fine of £50 for non-compliance

    The Bainisteoir may remain on the touch line and the Maor Foirne can
    approach the Bainisteoir for discussions but must return to the bench.
    Fine of £50 for non-compliance

   Only the Maor Foirne can enter the field of play to issue instructions to players.
   Fine of £50 for non-compliance

  Only the designated medical personnel are permitted to enter the playing area
   attend injured players 
  The medical attendant may only enter the playing area with the permission of
  the referee
  Fine of £50 for non-compliance

   Bids must be supplied by the club as follows;
   Bainisteoir, Maor Foirne, Physio / Doctor, Maor Caman / Maor Uisce
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 07, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
They wouldn't need to be issuing them as lgiel had no bibs on lol they did the same last year in the county final and tried to fine both dunloy and lgiel for different rule beaks but because they didn't enforce them throughout tr entire thing they couldn't fine our two clubs.

Same would prob apply again as they have set a precedent now. St. John's did have bibs on tho. Outs and ballycastles didn't in our game. Can't see them enforcing that again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2013, 10:55:47 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on May 07, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
RE: Dunloy Realist

These are  the guidelines that have been issued by the County for Championship games re personnel on the line! :) :)

1   A maximum of 3 team officials, plus 1 club Officer, plus 1 medical attendant
     are permitted on the sidelines (Total 5)
     Fine of £50 for non-compliance

     Additionally 4 Hurley / Water carriers, with bibs, may be stationed at
     designated points. (1 on the 22mtr line & 1 on the 45 mtr line and vice versa on
     the opposite side of the pitch) (Total 4)
     Water Carriers are not permitted to enter field of play.     
     Fine of £50 for non-compliance

    The Bainisteoir may remain on the touch line and the Maor Foirne can
    approach the Bainisteoir for discussions but must return to the bench.
    Fine of £50 for non-compliance

   Only the Maor Foirne can enter the field of play to issue instructions to players.
   Fine of £50 for non-compliance

  Only the designated medical personnel are permitted to enter the playing area
   attend injured players 
  The medical attendant may only enter the playing area with the permission of
  the referee
  Fine of £50 for non-compliance

   Bids must be supplied by the club as follows;
   Bainisteoir, Maor Foirne, Physio / Doctor, Maor Caman / Maor Uisce

Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 07, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
They wouldn't need to be issuing them as lgiel had no bibs on lol they did the same last year in the county final and tried to fine both dunloy and lgiel for different rule beaks but because they didn't enforce them throughout tr entire thing they couldn't fine our two clubs.

Same would prob apply again as they have set a precedent now. St. John's did have bibs on tho. Outs and ballycastles didn't in our game. Can't see them enforcing that again.

Championship games only I'd imagine DR. Be impossible to enforce this on club games, who will enforce this? The referees?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 08, 2013, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2013, 10:55:47 PM
who will enforce this? The referees?

Yeah ....do your job will ya...how much do we owe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
MR2 that was the U21 championship on monday i was referring to. i find it odd its not done for every round yet come the final its expected offf the clubs to adhere to the rules and when fined they argue that no one else did it in the early rounds and then the county cant fine them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 08, 2013, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
MR2 that was the U21 championship on monday i was referring to. i find it odd its not done for every round yet come the final its expected offf the clubs to adhere to the rules and when fined they argue that no one else did it in the early rounds and then the county cant fine them.

I think he is arguing the same point DR in that, only at the finals (normally in Casement) do they have the stewards etc to enforce the rules. At other venues this is not the case and certainly if I was a referee I wouldnt be getting embroiled in a row over bibs before the match was even under way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
MR2 that was the U21 championship on monday i was referring to. i find it odd its not done for every round yet come the final its expected offf the clubs to adhere to the rules and when fined they argue that no one else did it in the early rounds and then the county cant fine them.

Aye right enough, send me £40 and I'll say that Dunloy adhered with the rules on bibs!!

But as i said who'll enforce this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 10:10:50 AM
Ballycastle hammered Sarsfields and the Johnnies beat Loughgiel handy. We beat a poor Rasharkin team. Semis will be a harder game for us. Who played in the other game? Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2013, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
MR2 that was the U21 championship on monday i was referring to. i find it odd its not done for every round yet come the final its expected offf the clubs to adhere to the rules and when fined they argue that no one else did it in the early rounds and then the county cant fine them.

Aye right enough, send me £40 and I'll say that Dunloy adhered with the rules on bibs!!

But as i said who'll enforce this
Lol send joe to tr games. He's was able to see near 2k's worth at last year Antrim hurling final! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 08:45:58 AM
MR2 that was the U21 championship on monday i was referring to. i find it odd its not done for every round yet come the final its expected offf the clubs to adhere to the rules and when fined they argue that no one else did it in the early rounds and then the county cant fine them.

Aye right enough, send me £40 and I'll say that Dunloy adhered with the rules on bibs!!

But as i said who'll enforce this
Lol send joe to tr games. He's was able to see near 2k's worth at last year Antrim hurling final! Lol

Even if a manager steps over the line its a fine, having been a manager I know the rules regarding this, in Ulster championships its worse and they employ (sorry expenses paid) checker who has a list with tick boxes to keep track!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2013, 03:04:10 PM
I can see why they have the rules there to keep people pff the field, but sometime common sense should prevail. We got fined £50 for someone standing up on the line who wasn't supposed to(wee Davy who was sitting on the concrete bench) £50 for a sub sitting the wrong place. That's all a tad mental.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2013, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2013, 03:04:10 PM
I can see why they have the rules there to keep people pff the field, but sometime common sense should prevail. We got fined £50 for someone standing up on the line who wasn't supposed to(wee Davy who was sitting on the concrete bench) £50 for a sub sitting the wrong place. That's all a tad mental.

Not disagreeing with you, these are directives from Croke Park I'd imagine, but the funny thing is we (managers) are warned of these measures whether we think they are daft or not. You'd need to have a member of your coaching staff to make sure you adhere to them FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 09, 2013, 12:20:07 PM
Silly rules, seem like they are made up to generate a bit of income. However, if a mass brawl did break out and they weren't being adhered to, then we would hear all about it. Is Davy going to have any input with Dunloy again this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
probably, he had a ball last year doing it. all depends on how far clare go this year i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2013, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 10, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
probably, he had a ball last year doing it. all depends on how far clare go this year i suppose.

??? What ya on about

On another note Loughgiel motoring on rightly, 14 point win over Glenariff last night, seems they got a game in before the Laois game or maybe they played without their county hurlers. Seems a long wait till the hurling starts again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Looks like Glenarrrife were being cute?
Played Cushendall minus their county players and grabbed a win - tried the same with Loughiel last night.

Shamrocks have greater strength to play without their county men - maybe that why they're champions!
Cue the inevitable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 10, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Looks like Glenarrrife were being cute?
Played Cushendall minus their county players and grabbed a win - tried the same with Loughiel last night.

Shamrocks have greater strength to play without their county men - maybe that why they're champions!
Cue the inevitable!

I'd say if you were in Glenariffe's position you wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. If the Dall or Loughgeil chose to fulfill the fixture without their county players, what would you do? Nah lads, we'd rather play you with your full team?

Can't see Dingy doing that or anyone else for that matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2013, 10:38:18 AM
Loughgiel had plenty of ex county players available, and on top very early on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2013, 12:07:15 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 10, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Looks like Glenarrrife were being cute?
Played Cushendall minus their county players and grabbed a win - tried the same with Loughiel last night.

Shamrocks have greater strength to play without their county men - maybe that why they're champions!
Cue the inevitable!

I'd say if you were in Glenariffe's position you wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. If the Dall or Loughgeil chose to fulfill the fixture without their county players, what would you do? Nah lads, we'd rather play you with your full team?

Can't see Dingy doing that or anyone else for that matter.

I'm not for one minute criticising Glenarrife for this - good luck to them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
Lgiel are really strong minus their county guys. Take Eddie and tony mc cluskey out, duck as well and that's it. They are at full strength more or less. They played that against us in the mcgarry cup game and were way to strong for our weakened team. They are obviously favourites again and rightly so. They are a good team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2013, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 10, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
probably, he had a ball last year doing it. all depends on how far clare go this year i suppose.

??? What ya on about

On another note Loughgiel motoring on rightly, 14 point win over Glenariff last night, seems they got a game in before the Laois game or maybe they played without their county hurlers. Seems a long wait till the hurling starts again
Davy fitz. Previous poster asked about him coming back again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)

He played rightly too, would he be there when everyone back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 10, 2013, 06:28:40 PM
Its an absolute farce that the U21 games are being postponed, will we ever learn! 4 subs ensure that 56 other lads don't get competitive hurling, wouldn't happen in Cork or kilkenny FFS. The county ex should hang there heads in shame, suppose football rules ah.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 10, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)

why the shamrocks haven't taken him out to midfield more often when he is being well marked is beyond me

the amount of times he has been smothered against cushendall, and then the big lift it gives them when they clear it away from him !!!!!

it is a good plan if he isn't doing the damage like he inevitably does sometimes

ie all Ireland final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 10, 2013, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 10, 2013, 06:28:40 PM
Its an absolute farce that the U21 games are being postponed, will we ever learn! 4 subs ensure that 56 other lads don't get competitive hurling, wouldn't happen in Cork or kilkenny FFS. The county ex should hang there heads in shame, suppose football rules ah.

Wha?

Monday 13th May 2013
Friends Of Antrim U21 Hurling Championship
Time    Team 1    Score    Score    Team 2    Venue    Referee    Round    Notes
7 15 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---    St John's GAC    Casement Park           Semi Final     As requested by Senior County Manager.
7 15 PM    Mac Uilin CLG    ---    ---    Ruairí Óg    Loughgiel Shamrocks           Semi Final     As requested by Senior County Manager

this too

Sunday 12th May 2013
Division 1HL
Time    Team 1    Score    Score    Team 2    Venue    Referee    Round    Notes
3 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---    Loughgiel Shamrocks               Round 5     At the request of Senior County manager

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 10, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)

why the shamrocks haven't taken him out to midfield more often when he is being well marked is beyond me

the amount of times he has been smothered against cushendall, and then the big lift it gives them when they clear it away from him !!!!!

it is a good plan if he isn't doing the damage like he inevitably does sometimes

ie all Ireland final
I always thought that midfield was made for him, but a lad of the talent he has can change a game in blink of an eye up in around the square. I've a feeling him and Tony could be quite a combination in the middle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 11, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
The U-21 match is off as is our senior game against Loughgiel on Sunday. We won The Darragh Cup last night against Ballycastle who pushed us all the way. 5 wins in a row in this competition now which is some record.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2013, 12:31:19 PM
That is a stat to be proud of.

8 or 9 years since we won it I think  :-[

We got beat handily enough by Glenshesk in the B final. Very young team though who lack the right physicallity needed to really compete. Glenshesk had some decent hurlers on show.

Thought over the hour Ballycastle played really well and their tactics seemed to work well in the first half. Don't know if pulling Saul Caughan out the pitch in the 2nd was the right one though. Cushendall seemed a bit more settled when he left the square. They still could have nicked it. I'm sure from a Cdall pov its nice to know you can play poorly enough and still get the result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GalwayLassForLiam on May 11, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Lads I am curious to know what type of suspension Karl Stewart got after his red card v westmeath.

I hope antrim make it as far as the galway game and then loose a good competitive match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on May 11, 2013, 02:08:03 PM
Posted by: BlackandAmber
« on: May 10, 2013, 08:07:46 PM » Insert Quote
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 10, 2013, 06:28:40 PM
Its an absolute farce that the U21 games are being postponed, will we ever learn! 4 subs ensure that 56 other lads don't get competitive hurling, wouldn't happen in Cork or kilkenny FFS. The county ex should hang there heads in shame, suppose football rules ah.

Wha?

Monday 13th May 2013
Friends Of Antrim U21 Hurling Championship
Time    Team 1    Score    Score    Team 2    Venue    Referee    Round    Notes
7 15 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---    St John's GAC    Casement Park           Semi Final     As requested by Senior County Manager.
7 15 PM    Mac Uilin CLG    ---    ---    Ruairí Óg    Loughgiel Shamrocks           Semi Final     As requested by Senior County Manager

this too

Sunday 12th May 2013
Division 1HL
Time    Team 1    Score    Score    Team 2    Venue    Referee    Round    Notes
3 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---    Loughgiel Shamrocks               Round 5     At the request of Senior County manager


This is a joke. A schedule is posted, clubs work hard planning a way forward, all for nothing. The idea is to play U-21 C'ship over a short time period without Senior games getting in the way. What now? Who knows? Hard enough for dual clubs. Has this worked before to benefit the county team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: GalwayLassForLiam on May 11, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Lads I am curious to know what type of suspension Karl Stewart got after his red card v westmeath.

I hope antrim make it as far as the galway game and then loose a good competitive match

One match ban be back hopefully if we beat Laois. Was a dafty thing, coming on and was greeted was the customary shoulder charge he gave some afters and the fella dropped and Karl got a straight red.

Not clever and thats what happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2013, 08:59:37 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 10, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)

why the shamrocks haven't taken him out to midfield more often when he is being well marked is beyond me

the amount of times he has been smothered against cushendall, and then the big lift it gives them when they clear it away from him !!!!!

it is a good plan if he isn't doing the damage like he inevitably does sometimes

ie all Ireland final
I always thought that midfield was made for him, but a lad of the talent he has can change a game in blink of an eye up in around the square. I've a feeling him and Tony could be quite a combination in the middle.

Against better opposition would Winker be disciplined enough to mark his own man?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2013, 09:46:28 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2013, 08:59:37 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 10, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
Winker playing midfield so far this year has been a great move. One I suggested early last year for antrim to the amusement of others on this thread.  ;)

why the shamrocks haven't taken him out to midfield more often when he is being well marked is beyond me

the amount of times he has been smothered against cushendall, and then the big lift it gives them when they clear it away from him !!!!!

it is a good plan if he isn't doing the damage like he inevitably does sometimes

ie all Ireland final
I always thought that midfield was made for him, but a lad of the talent he has can change a game in blink of an eye up in around the square. I've a feeling him and Tony could be quite a combination in the middle.

Against better opposition would Winker be disciplined enough to mark his own man?

Same as Joe Canning the further away from the goals he is the better for opposition teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2013, 10:01:33 AM
Joe normally comes out as a spare man rather than line out there, but agreed, the further away from goal he is the less damage he can do, but if he's standing in on the edge of the square and starved off the ball, what's the point as well, catch 22 situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2013, 10:08:14 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2013, 10:01:33 AM
Joe normally comes out as a spare man rather than line out there, but agreed, the further away from goal he is the less damage he can do, but if he's standing in on the edge of the square and starved off the ball, what's the point as well, catch 22 situation.

Yeah that's the conundrum Galway especially find themselves in more often that not, but if I were them I would leave him at the edge of the square and everyone else's job is to get him the ball, plain and simple.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2013, 10:17:13 AM
Joe Canning can see passes that very few others on a pitch would see though so I don't think moving him out is such a bad thing for Galway.

Winker mainly a score taker so suspect maybe Loughiel would lose a bit if they move him out. They have plenty of other adept midfielders so were it not to work they can just switch him anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2013, 10:39:04 AM
Loughgiel have plenty forwards to pick from, Winker playing midfield can be a good option he's fit enough for it, he can run at players and create opportunities for other players. Loughgiel have plenty of talent and will only get beat by complacency or a shitty wet night when the other team has a cracking game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on May 10, 2013, 06:28:40 PM
Its an absolute farce that the U21 games are being postponed, will we ever learn! 4 subs ensure that 56 other lads don't get competitive hurling, wouldn't happen in Cork or kilkenny FFS. The county ex should hang there heads in shame, suppose football rules ah.

+++++++11111111111

Can't find words to describe how I feel about this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 13, 2013, 05:48:28 PM
Tomorrow in the county antrim post winker explains his antrim absence. Can not wait for this one.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 07:53:08 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 13, 2013, 05:48:28 PM
Tomorrow in the county antrim post winker explains his antrim absence. Can not wait for this one.  ;)

Which time?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 08:05:45 AM
A very interesting article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 14, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 08:05:45 AM
A very interesting article.

Give us the highlights so?!?!????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2013, 08:46:33 AM
took this off the phone there now, heopefully it works
http://imm.io/15XfR
http://imm.io/15Xg7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 08:05:45 AM
A very interesting article.

I must have missed the interesting part SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
Exactly...could someone highlight the interesting bits. As LW euglogised about himself in bars throughout NA and then watched him act the ballecks training wise for years with manys a county squad as he visited those bars, many people including players developed a disrespect for him. As mush as a fully committed LW would be brilliant in theory to the county team (cause on his day he's as good as anyone in Ireland) history tells me that the squad on the whole is better off without him for the reasons I've mentioned.

I'm sure our Lg brethern will jump to his defense and say he is much maligned, but he has brought that upon himself over the years. All we've got from the Antrim post is LW's ego ignoring some harsh truths. I'm sure beneath it all he's a decent enough spud, but people see what people see.

All good for LG though...they'll have a well rested panel for the championship this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2013, 11:36:36 AM
No massive insight in the article, nothing that wasn't commonly known.

Can't really disagree too much with what has been said by Skull.  In summary:

Liam a terific hurler.
Had commitment issues previously.
Obvious high profile falling out between LW and Cdall contingent over their antics at awards dinner.
Looks like K. Ryan decided it wasn't worth potential hassle / disharmony in camp.
Antrim lose a great hurler but potentially better team/squad morale for it.
Looughgiel the benefit of LW training & playing with them all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2013, 12:04:22 PM
Fully agree with both previous posts.
To the point where I am wondering are they not generally accepted truth now rather than opinion?
Maybe only those in loughgiel think different SiE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.

I thought this was Kevin Ryan's job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.

I thought this was Kevin Ryan's job?
so did I. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:30:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.

I thought this was Kevin Ryan's job?
so did I.

So you are throwing accusations about now, care to back them up with a shred of evidence of this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
Take a look at the numerous interviews and articles that your club mates have related to and through the press over the past few months and one is left to draw that conclusion from this side of the fence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
Take a look at the numerous interviews and articles that your club mates have related to and through the press over the past few months and one is left to draw that conclusion from this side of the fence.

I did say evidence SIE?

What do you expect the guys on the squad to say when they are interviewed, 'oh we really miss Liam I wonder would he ever come back when it suits him of course we miss him that much'

Of course they are going to say that the most committed and talented players are on the squad already.

I think the red tinted glasses clouding your view on this one SIE.

PS I think KR is a big enough man in his own right to pick and choose who he wants or doesnt in and around the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:37:24 PM
Take a look at the numerous interviews and articles that your club mates have related to and through the press over the past few months and one is left to draw that conclusion from this side of the fence.

I did say evidence SIE?

What do you expect the guys on the squad to say when they are interviewed, 'oh we really miss Liam I wonder would he ever come back when it suits him of course we miss him that much'

Of course they are going to say that the most committed and talented players are on the squad already.

I think the red tinted glasses clouding your view on this one SIE.

PS I think KR is a big enough man in his own right to pick and choose who he wants or doesnt in and around the panel.

I would expect nothing less that for you SiE to think the same way as your clubman - and I'm sure plenty in Loughgiel - its only natural.

But from a different persepctive - there is nothing concrete to suggest Kevin Ryan was influenced by the Cushendall lads to exclude Watson.
If he was influenced by Watson having a poor effect on the squad - maybe thats Watson's fault.

Overall I think we should keep this one simple. He's not on the squad becasue Kevin Ryan doesnt want him there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2013, 12:49:34 PM
I think a manager at the end of the day decides on who he wants in the panel, is that based on what senior squad members say? coaching staff or outside influences or is it based on past experiences or form? Either way I would say that Ryan has made his mind up on this, he's said a few things in the past about the panels but anyone who's ever been involved with management will tell you that to set conditions at the start of the year (and they all do) is madness, they usually back down somewhere along the way, Cody maybe the exception as he a serious wealth of talent.

In some cases you have to be realistic, am I going to have problems further down the line, will it upset everyone else, will it cause a split. Obviously a good manager can work with players and bring together a squad all fighting together for the County/Club. Very hard to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2013, 01:32:24 PM
SIE is reverting to type. You would almost think that LW never acted the ballecks round LG for SIE not to have any idea why people have so little time for him regardless of his talents. LG have had to deal with his idiosyncratic tendencies and I'd say they wouldn't have been that far away from casting him adrift if they didn't end their barren spell when they did. Are you telling me SIE you don't know what I'm talking about?

I think SIE knows right well its a gamble (with poor odds) to include him in an antrim county squad now. Watson would only play well for the county to prove a point to naysers. He wouldn't be interested in just committing properly like the rest, training week in week out with the squad, work on helping to develop a decent bond and healthy respect for his team mates and together try and achieve a level of success. 

But hey, we're talking about him ...mission accomplished  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 14, 2013, 01:38:07 PM
SIE no harm to you but the rubbish your are talking crazy. Catch a grip of yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 14, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
De ja vu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 14, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
Big week for Antrim, although I think Liam is by far the best hurler in the county, don't be getting dragged down in to a conversation about him this week. It would be massive for Antrim to get two wins back to back in the Leinster championship, no matter who the opposition are.

Is there any injury doubts for this weekend, or we will be looking to a similar team? Hippy would be a great addition to the squad if we got over this one, is he playing away with Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2013, 03:36:18 PM
Is McCrory back and fit?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 14, 2013, 05:00:56 PM
Mc Manus is now doing something for the county that Watson never did over the decade or so he played and that is to perform consistently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 14, 2013, 01:38:07 PM
SIE no harm to you but the rubbish your are talking crazy. Catch a grip of yourself.
You're the expert.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 15, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 14, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
Big week for Antrim, although I think Liam is by far the best hurler in the county, don't be getting dragged down in to a conversation about him this week. It would be massive for Antrim to get two wins back to back in the Leinster championship, no matter who the opposition are.

Is there any injury doubts for this weekend, or we will be looking to a similar team? Hippy would be a great addition to the squad if we got over this one, is he playing away with Ballycastle?

Neil McAuley and Paul Shields are currently way ahead of him in this bracket.

Shorty has been nothing short of outstanding for antrim this year. hes only played a handfull of games this season for Dunloy as well at that.

Neil McAuley has been outstanding for Antrim this year, a complete man mountain in centre half and deserves all the credit hes had lapped onto him.

i think we have more than a wealth of talent in the squad to win this weekend and the following game without any additions/disruptions added.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.

So the dall boys are calling the shots. You either have some in depth insight or your talking through butt. If there was some sort of stipulation by other players then its due to the behaviour of the said player and the discord he brought in the past. You say as LG man your glad he is not on the panel, well as a dunloy man imm glad as well. Better to plod on with some harmony than an undeniable talent that needs placated at every whim.  SIE stop embarrassing yourself on a thread on Antrim hurling, keep your inaccurate one sided excuses for the pound where you might get someone to indulge you. This guy has has left under every county manager he hurled for, long before kevin Ryan and mc manus came on the scene
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 15, 2013, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
As long as you know the truth then that's that done with. Mcmanus and his club mates on the panel basically have the final say on who's allowed on the panel. As long as you're all happy about that, fair enough.

Winker is no Angel, but then who on that antrim panel is? And you're correct, as a loughgiel man I'm happy he's not in the squad.

So the dall boys are calling the shots. You either have some in depth insight or your talking through butt. If there was some sort of stipulation by other players then its due to the behaviour of the said player and the discord he brought in the past. You say as LG man your glad he is not on the panel, well as a dunloy man imm glad as well. Better to plod on with some harmony than an undeniable talent that needs placated at every whim.  SIE stop embarrassing yourself on a thread on Antrim hurling, keep your inaccurate one sided excuses for the pound where you might get someone to indulge you. This guy has has left under every county manager he hurled for, long before kevin Ryan and mc manus came on the scene

Interesting point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
Maybe if he went off to new York to hurl during the championship or agree to go on county sponsored drinking jaunts down to cork with the lads he might have been more accepted. I doubt it though. Double standards alive and well in the county set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
Maybe if he went off to new York to hurl during the championship or agree to go on county sponsored drinking jaunts down to cork with the lads he might have been more accepted. I doubt it though. Double standards alive and well in the county set up.

Or if he had just trained like everyone else on the panel, committed to the cause at any point during his county career then he might command more respect that he does now when he comes off with this rubbish, he didn't so he doesn't. Unfortunately on this one SIE you can defend him to you are blue in the face but his record speaks for itself. Something which was so conveniently omitted from the article.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2013, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
Maybe if he went off to new York to hurl during the championship or agree to go on county sponsored drinking jaunts down to cork with the lads he might have been more accepted. I doubt it though. Double standards alive and well in the county set up.

Or what about away on motocross bikes during the league one year when we where going well and had to play tipp away. ( Only one example) Stop dwelling on other players, they are not the subject here.  Bring up all the examples you want . Your not convincing anyone on here why no one wants to hurl with him. You have been very quick to have a crack At mc manus ,how do you rate his discipline and commitment to Antrim compared to your mate . As I said before brilliant player LG wouldn't have won an all Ireland without him and he would be a huge asset to the county if his attitude mirrored some of the players you are slating
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 15, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
The noises from KR suggest he is building a team to peak in three years. The average age will be 27 or so then. Watson (correct me if wrong) would be 33?  Perhaps the manager is looking to build a team for the future and Watson may not be around then, possibly this is why he hasn't been asked. Either way, Liam Watson isn't part of the panel, isn't likely to be any time soon. All the shouting and roaring isn't going to change that. Would think the Antrim manager that has a wealth of experience, working with a great Waterford team in their peak in the 2000s would know what he is doing. I will take his word for it, the performances to date suggest he is doing the right thing. Watson's gone, next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2013, 02:16:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
Maybe if he went off to new York to hurl during the championship or agree to go on county sponsored drinking jaunts down to cork with the lads he might have been more accepted. I doubt it though. Double standards alive and well in the county set up.

Or if he had just trained like everyone else on the panel, committed to the cause at any point during his county career then he might command more respect that he does now when he comes off with this rubbish, he didn't so he doesn't. Unfortunately on this one SIE you can defend him to you are blue in the face but his record speaks for itself. Something which was so conveniently omitted from the article.

Dead right nag hit the nail on the head, pen and paper refuses nothing. This column in the post is the equivalent of joey Barton or l bowyer writing for the sun. Worth a read if your buying it but completely dismissive of any substance or  Balance. Anyway as skull said we are talking about him so job done. While he's typing away lads like shorty and graffin etc are at the coalface this week training for Saturday. Lets talk about that what's everyone's thoughts, will be tuff going but I think we can Pull it off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Like I said before, double standards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 15, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 14, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
Big week for Antrim, although I think Liam is by far the best hurler in the county, don't be getting dragged down in to a conversation about him this week. It would be massive for Antrim to get two wins back to back in the Leinster championship, no matter who the opposition are.

Is there any injury doubts for this weekend, or we will be looking to a similar team? Hippy would be a great addition to the squad if we got over this one, is he playing away with Ballycastle?

In answer to that Slicker no he hasnt been playing for the club. Still injured. Huge loss for the county this season as i think Graffin is better suited to corner back. Hopefully they can get past Laois on Saturday. Im sure it will be tough but hard to gauge where Laois are at given they were in 2A of the league. Havent heard of any rows or fall outs in their camp so thats a plus for them!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Its what you don't say in between your very poor defense is striking. Would you not have been better to say nothing.

I have to question whether having any egotistical and controversial player (who's still playing) writing in a local rag is good for business.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Is there any TV coverage of the match on Saturday in any shape of form or is that wishful thinking?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 16, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Is there any TV coverage of the match on Saturday in any shape of form or is that wishful thinking?

I doubt it, Midland radio with it's fair commentary........... not!!! Well bound to have it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 16, 2013, 12:34:54 PM
Will this be the first weekend of the Sunday game live?

Cavan v Armagh i assume.

Team picked for the weekend yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 17, 2013, 08:33:25 AM
team v Laois
1. Ryan Mc Garry Mac Uilin
2. Barry McFall Naomh Eoin
3. Arron Graffin Ruairi Og
4. Mark Mc Fadden Na Seamroga
5. Conor Mc Kinley Cú Chullain
6. Neal Mc Auley Mac Uilin
7. Jackson Mc Greevey Naomh Gall
8. Mathew Donnelly Mac Uilin
9. Tony Mc Closkey Na Seamroga
10. Paul Shiels Cú Chullain
11. Neil Mc Manus (Cap)Ruairi Og
12. Eddie McCloskey Na Seamroga
13. Shane Mc Naughto Ruairi Og
14. Conor Carson Ruairi Og
15. AN Other

16. Chris O Connell Na Seamroga
17. Ronan Mc Closkey Na Seamroga
18. Odhran Mc Fadden Na Seamroga
19. Kevin Mc Kernan Padraig Sairseil
20. Conor Laverty Naomh Brid
21. Chris Mc Guinness Ui Donnabhain Rosa
22. K B Mc Shane Mac Uilin
23. Shay Casey Na Seamroga
24. Stephan Mc Afee Mac Uilin
25. Ciaran Clarke Mac Uilin
26. Darren Hamill Shane O Neills
27. Dessie Mc Clean Gortnamona
28. Colm McFall Naomh Eoin
29. Simon Mc Crory Naomh Eoin

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
Here goes my shots again for the weekend;

Antrim V Laois - Antrim by about 4
I think the win over Westmeath gives our lads the edge of confidence going into the game. For me Laois will be carrying one or two players of sub standard ability and we have a greater scoring threat to overcome their home advantage.

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

Sarsfields to beat Carey
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg
Randalstwon to beat Gort
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here!

Anyone else care to venture a prediction?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 17, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
Here goes my shots again for the weekend;

Antrim V Laois - Antrim by about 4
I think the win over Westmeath gives our lads the edge of confidence going into the game. For me Laois will be carrying one or two players of sub standard ability and we have a greater scoring threat to overcome their home advantage.

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

Sarsfields to beat Carey
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg
Randalstwon to beat Gort
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here!

Anyone else care to venture a prediction?

As much as Cushendall's county men will be exerted by the Laois game, our half dozen county men will also be facing Derry in the Christy Ring on saturday as well, less travelling though, and will also be suitably knackered. Cushendall may be in a better position to rest their contingent as the Ulster league semi-final in Hannahstown showed. We've no real strength in depth, and IMO we've a few on the starting 15 who are being carried, but there's no one better, so we are where we are.

As long as we play with a bit of heart and wit, we'll give the Dall a game, but one sadly we'll fall short on in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
With the weather conditions it probably suited, but on principle could Matty Donnelly (and and other panelists) not have played 5 days before this game and if he got an knock, bring in a replacement. I think this attitude of county manangement (as its been for as long as I can remember) cancelling games over the head of one or two is totally crazy, never mind totally disrespectful and showing a real lack of confidence in the remaining panelists.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 17, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
With the weather conditions it probably suited, but on principle could Matty Donnelly (and and other panelists) not have played 5 days before this game and if he got an knock, bring in a replacement. I think this attitude of county manangement (as its been for as long as I can remember) cancelling games over the head of one or two is totally crazy, never mind totally disrespectful and showing a real lack of confidence in the remaining panelists.

I prefer to call it county mis managment.
And yes, you are 100% right on this.
Fed up with it year in year out then we wonder why we dont progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
Here goes my shots again for the weekend;

Antrim V Laois - Antrim by about 4
I think the win over Westmeath gives our lads the edge of confidence going into the game. For me Laois will be carrying one or two players of sub standard ability and we have a greater scoring threat to overcome their home advantage.

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

Sarsfields to beat Carey
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg
Randalstwon to beat Gort
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here!

Anyone else care to venture a prediction?
we won't be close to full strength as there's a wedding and a stag this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2013, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
we won't be close to full strength as there's a wedding and a stag this weekend.
:o
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2013, 12:56:41 PM
Haha.   Don't think it's a forcing match.      Anyone any idea who "an other" is.   IMO shay or young Clarke deserve a chance in the corner from the start.    Heard it is a late call up.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 17, 2013, 01:38:51 PM
I agree. He played well when he came on against Westmeath and u would say he will fill that empty spot.

Anyone here going to the game tomorrow night? Think i will be heading Down. Hopefully the weather holds up like today!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 17, 2013, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
Here goes my shots again for the weekend;

Antrim V Laois - Antrim by about 4
I think the win over Westmeath gives our lads the edge of confidence going into the game. For me Laois will be carrying one or two players of sub standard ability and we have a greater scoring threat to overcome their home advantage.

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

Sarsfields to beat Carey
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg
Randalstwon to beat Gort
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here!

Anyone else care to venture a prediction?
we won't be close to full strength as there's a wedding and a stag this weekend.

Why wasn't it called off then?

Losing your touch!   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 17, 2013, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 17, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
Here goes my shots again for the weekend;

Antrim V Laois - Antrim by about 4
I think the win over Westmeath gives our lads the edge of confidence going into the game. For me Laois will be carrying one or two players of sub standard ability and we have a greater scoring threat to overcome their home advantage.

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

Sarsfields to beat Carey
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg
Randalstwon to beat Gort
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here!

Anyone else care to venture a prediction?
we won't be close to full strength as there's a wedding and a stag this weekend.

Why wasn't it called off then?

Losing your touch!   :o

Very good JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2013, 03:09:04 PM
Fancy a win anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2013, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2013, 03:09:04 PM
Fancy a win anyway.  ;D

Just send the reserves  ;)



DR - Dont like you chances, check the forecast for tomorrow, could be a total mud bath of a match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on May 18, 2013, 02:28:15 AM
Where has young Conor McCann (Creggan) gone to. Is he not on the hurling panel this year. was a great prospect and a regular on the team 2 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
http://www.midlands103.com/custom/api/radio.player.php  Antrim Laois game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
6 point defeat and again seems to be a heavy reliance on 2 players/frees. Looks bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2013, 08:38:25 PM
All camps are happy..... When you've just won. Last year the garden was filled with roses until mullingar then the swords came out and the whole thing was a farce. Hope the same doesn't happen this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
6 point defeat and again seems to be a heavy reliance on 2 players/frees. Looks bad.

Terrible, hard game to win but our level has dropped in that second tier band of counties. A successful year would have been to meet Galway and put up a good show in the Qualifies.

Begs the question, do we need outside managers? Takes too long for for the settling period and this result sets us back a few years. A manager from Antrim who knows the scene, players, their commitment levels and attitude. At the minute and for a few years we have been lacking. Very worrying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
Think this should be taken on the chin and they should try to move on as a whole squad. Early championship exit can destroy a squad because of the long wait for a qualifier and a loss of a bit of buzz/ hunger. Could be rite mr2 bout manager thing thou who from within could unite a squad???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 18, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
We just aren't as good as we think we are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 18, 2013, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 18, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
We just aren't as good as we think we are.

True, I think that resulted from the 80's and 90's with far to many easy appearances in all Ireland semi finals in croker and of course the 1 great year in 89. We had 1 or 2 close calls in all but realistically had we been in Leinster then we would have struggled to get to one All Ireland semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
You'll be pleased with the result tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
You'll be pleased with the result tonight.
not at all. If you believe that you're mistaken. I've followed Antrim all over Ireland for the best Part of 25 years. I want nothing but the best for them. Unfortunately the current set up is a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 18, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
You'll be pleased with the result tonight.
not at all. If you believe that you're mistaken. I've followed Antrim all over Ireland for the best Part of 25 years. I want nothing but the best for them. Unfortunately the current set up is a joke.

why do you say that SIE

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
Just home from the game. Very disappointing result. We defend well in periods but the forwards just didn't get the scores when it was needed.
I still think we have a good team but we lack a few more decent forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2013, 12:11:10 AM
Any positives that says we defended well and the goalkeeper had a great game means we were shite!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 19, 2013, 12:11:27 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 18, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
You'll be pleased with the result tonight.
not at all. If you believe that you're mistaken. I've followed Antrim all over Ireland for the best Part of 25 years. I want nothing but the best for them. Unfortunately the current set up is a joke.

why do you say that SIE

of course he's happy, thinks there is some vindication now for the sniping he's being going over. pathetic

just in the door home, bad result but they where the better team. shorty and Graffin hurled well, Hamill played well when he came on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 19, 2013, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 18, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 18, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
the happy campers beaten by 6 points. Dreadful performance.
You'll be pleased with the result tonight.
not at all. If you believe that you're mistaken. I've followed Antrim all over Ireland for the best Part of 25 years. I want nothing but the best for them. Unfortunately the current set up is a joke.

why do you say that SIE

Agree. Why is the current set up a joke bar Winker's non-inclusion and a few personal issues with Cushendall men?

From the outside has Ryan not trained them hard and despite slightly renegging on getting a few late additions tried to create a bond among a squad.

Rather than sticking the knife in confirm why it's a joke and who/how we change it?

As noted we just must not be at the required level of be the best of tier two/three.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 19, 2013, 12:22:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2013, 12:15:18 AM
Think it's unfair to say that he is happy we were beat. Let's not forget that some of his clubmates were playing. Criticising the set up doesn't mean you want the other team to win.

It's nothing like Milltown Row actively supporting Donegal against us in 2009. :)

Let's hear what the criticism of the set up is then not just a "it's a joke".

Was listening as well and despite the biased commentary it sounded dire.

Comments from someone at the game:
To many anonymous forwards that were at the game.
Only a couple competing for the catch.
Three different free takers. (Radio at one point (was cutting in and out) said McManus wasn't on them.
Why do we take any short puck out into contact?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2013, 12:22:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2013, 12:15:18 AM
Think it's unfair to say that he is happy we were beat. Let's not forget that some of his clubmates were playing. Criticising the set up doesn't mean you want the other team to win.

It's nothing like Milltown Row actively supporting Donegal against us in 2009. :)

Tongue was fairly in cheek hardstation ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 19, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
Poor showing tonight, the ball wasn't sticking in attack. Laois had done their homework and we couldn't manage to work out how to break them down. We are short of a few forwards, a glaring problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 19, 2013, 01:52:17 AM
SIE is playing politics instead of supporting the team because hes motivated by some points he's trying to score. A little bit more maturity wouldn't go amiss for all those 25 years hes talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 02:18:21 AM
Utter tripe skull and nah. What I've posted on here about antrim over the past couple of years has all been proven to be true. This time will be no exception.

I agree with you all about Winker and his attitude towards antrim. It's infuriating and frustrating to say the least. But I'll ask you this, are we as a county strong enough to leave him out? We don't have many, if any, major game changers. He is most definitely that. The only other hurler in antrim that I can see with that potential is young Shanebo. Again, obviously flawed in certain areas but undoubtedly a great talent. To put it simply, he has to play. As do all our best hurlers.

The constant appointing of outside managers is hurting antrim hurling. I don't get this fixation myself. It doesn't work. Most southerers haven't a clue about the clubs and hurlers up here and rely on the word of certain individuals within the set up . I find this to be poor practise, amateurish at best. What's needed is someone in control who knows the players, goes to matches from February to October. I'm therefore throwing my hat in the ring after Ryan walks this summer.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 02:23:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2013, 02:14:46 AM
Jesus fcuk, lads! Had SIE been in Portlaoise tonight wrapped in 20 Antrim flags, it wouldn't have mattered a flying fcuk.
He said before the game that the set up is a joke.
We lost the game.
He still thinks the set up is a joke.

I don't know if he is right or wrong but we're hardly flying.

The knives are out in Dunloy/Cushendall anyway.
Nothing new there HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 19, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
I would rather lose every time with a committed united panel than have to work with fly by night agitators. I could be wrong but I think that the players would prefer this as well

This gross simplification of calling "the antrim setup" a joke is seriously offensive to those who gave everything to Antrims cause.

Seems there's a few on this board whod rather pander to talent with commitment issues in the naive hope of some short term gain.


And BTW SIE.....nice of you to acknowledge after several days of silence the valid points that were being made about LWs attitude and commitment over the years and the impacts that had on the panels he was meant to be part of. People from outside LG rightly don't have the same patience

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 11:05:38 AM
If you're happy with the downward spiral we're currently in then we should proceed with the status quo. Personally I'd rather have a chance of beating Laois than playing them with a weakened panel. We all have different opinions skull, neither is right or wrong but apart from a shock win in the Walsh cup over a weakened Kilkenny side a few years back we've had nothing to shout about for 20 years. That isn't progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2013, 12:06:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 11:05:38 AM
If you're happy with the downward spiral we're currently in then we should proceed with the status quo. Personally I'd rather have a chance of beating Laois than playing them with a weakened panel. We all have different opinions skull, neither is right or wrong but apart from a shock win in the Walsh cup over a weakened Kilkenny side a few years back we've had nothing to shout about for 20 years. That isn't progress.

Criteria for new manager:

An Antrim man
Someone who knows the scene
An ex county player though not essential
Someone who can talk to the players and command respect
A motivator
Someone who can get two types of trainers, one who'll knock fcuk out them preseason the other who'll organise the drills
A past club manager who's willing to bring in tactics and play players in their true positions


Oh I'm not looking rid of Ryan, just when his time runs out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 19, 2013, 12:24:15 PM
Greg O'Kane and PJ O'Mullan Sr are Antrim men who are part of the management set-up no? Would think KR knows exactly the ins and out of Antrim club bitching/rivalry. Think our problem is that we just don't have enough top-class players at the moment. The players are giving their all and it seems a much happier unit this year than last. Yes, yesterday was very disappointing but I don't think after once loss it's time to start freaking out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 19, 2013, 12:56:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 11:05:38 AM
If you're happy with the downward spiral we're currently in then we should proceed with the status quo. Personally I'd rather have a chance of beating Laois than playing them with a weakened panel. We all have different opinions skull, neither is right or wrong but apart from a shock win in the Walsh cup over a weakened Kilkenny side a few years back we've had nothing to shout about for 20 years. That isn't progress.

And the downward spiral (your words not mine) is as a result of trying outside managers trying to create united panels.  ::)

Laois and Antrim have been close to other for years now. You should be disappointed rather than shocked. They seem to have bounced back after a few bad years where their attitude (or managerial setup) wasnt up to the mark

If better forward play is needed then that needs to be coached by the clubs and development squads. Sadly we dont have the people across the county prepared to solve at juvenile level what we can see as a problem at senior level sadly. Much easier to snipe.

The players who are there need our praise for their efforts not lazy negativity about their efforts just to score points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2013, 02:50:37 PM
We are not in a downward spiral SIE. We would like to be beating Laois and the likes but we have no god given right to be beating them and they are a team we have always struggled with so not beating them does not put them in a downward spiral.

Don't forget that under Dinny Cahill we beat Carlow by three and were lucky to do so when we were going well. It's a level we have been at for a long time.

Stop manufacturing a downward spiral to suit an agenda. You mention that you were correct - a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 19, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 19, 2013, 02:50:37 PM
We are not in a downward spiral SIE. We would like to be beating Laois and the likes but we have no god given right to be beating them and they are a team we have always struggled with so not beating them does not put them in a downward spiral.

Don't forget that under Dinny Cahill we beat Carlow by three and were lucky to do so when we were going well. It's a level we have been at for a long time.

Stop manufacturing a downward spiral to suit an agenda. You mention that you were correct - a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

Agree a downward spiral suggests we were somewhere. The only time in recent years when we "were somewhere"...only time we may have been was under Dinny, an outside manager.

A weakened panel? Who is not there bar Watson and maybe Hippy who has chosen not to be, despite whether he may be injured.

Please clarify what the setup being "a joke" is? The knives are out and you're not clarifying why. Quite a few men have put alot of effort in over the last number of months and you're pretty much belittling it. If the same was done post LG's loss v St Thomas, which it wasn't, there would have been uproar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2013, 04:59:59 PM
Glenariffe beat Rossa by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 19, 2013, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.

Your not offering any solutions yourself. At least no one is slating the players and managent. You said current set up is joke then one post later it's been a joke for 20 years. Make up your mind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
I never slated the players. I said the current set was a joke and that something hasn't been right for 20 years. Don't try and twist my postings please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 06:10:03 PM
Beat ballycran 1-24 to 2-20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 19, 2013, 06:56:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.

True, bu that '89 team came from a minor side that played in Leinster in early 80s. That was where that team came from, plus we were given a bye (until '89 when Down re-entered the Ulster Championship) to the semi-final, so was always a chance could all come right one day. Now we have to earn it. Think these young lads (including many of your own boys, Eddie, Tony, Ronan and Shay to name a few) are a good bunch of committed hurlers, non-messers. It's been the 'out, bate, back for a swally mentality' that has held us back. Not a current crop that are trying their best and a manager who knows what he is doing (Carlow's rise from nobody's to competitive second tier team, ok their clubs hurling in KK leagues has helped). The last 20 years have been woeful bar the odd day when the stars realigned - so why persist with the same crop who were key members of that era?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Christ that was long!!! I had the DT's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
I never slated the players. I said the current set was a joke and that something hasn't been right for 20 years. Don't try and twist my postings please.

So if we're score the joke level over each of the last 20 years ...how does this years management score relative to the previous 20 years. If this years management are no worse than previous years then you'd have to wonder why your focusing on their efforts.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.

At the start you're very specific (i.e. the management setup is a joke), then when youre comments are put under scrutiny, you couldnt be any more vague  ::)


Back to the leagues
We'd a good win against the ports yesterday, with some great performances in many positions. Was a fantastic end to end game on a perfect day for hurling. See the Dall and LG also had narrowish victories up in the ards (the referee probably won it for LG) . Tis a great place to play the game IMO. You always know that you're gonna a get a full blooded contest against any of the penninsula teams. We need them as much as they need us.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 20, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Christ that was long!!! I had the DT's

aye and a ropey watch  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:08:00 PM

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

ALL THREE CORRECT!


3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

ALSO CORREEXT GIVEN HOW CLOSE GAMES WERE.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

BOTH CORRECT

Sarsfields to beat Carey CORRECT
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg CORRECT
Randalstwon to beat Gort DRAW
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here! BEST PREDICTION OF ALL!

NOW COME ON GUYS YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME CREDIT HERE!
EVEN MR2 HAS TO CONCEDE THAT'S IMPRESSIVE?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:12:49 PM
In terms of the city teams I made it to hannahstow v galls. Scrappy affair not great with both sides missing players. I would have thought galls should have won by more but they weren't able to one the day. Fair enough galls lads? Still a banana skin avoided so promotion still very much on.

From what I hear St. John's sideline were outrageous again. Alot of effort (and finance) going in there but I have to question it all.
Rossa unsurprisingly travelled minus a selection of 1st teamers including both county men - how is this allowed to happen hardstation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2013, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
I never slated the players. I said the current set was a joke and that something hasn't been right for 20 years. Don't try and twist my postings please.

So if we're score the joke level over each of the last 20 years ...how does this years management score relative to the previous 20 years. If this years management are no worse than previous years then you'd have to wonder why your focusing on their efforts.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.

At the start you're very specific (i.e. the management setup is a joke), then when youre comments are put under scrutiny, you couldnt be any more vague  ::)


Back to the leagues
We'd a good win against the ports yesterday, with some great performances in many positions. Was a fantastic end to end game on a perfect day for hurling. See the Dall and LG also had narrowish victories up in the ards (the referee probably won it for LG) . Tis a great place to play the game IMO. You always know that you're gonna a get a full blooded contest against any of the penninsula teams. We need them as much as they need us.
The alarm bells were ringing when Ryan came down to our club and said what he said. He then went back on his "closed door" policy after saying in the press that he wouldn't unless in the case of injuries. He has since drafted players in anyway. It doesn't instil much confidence in him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2013, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2013, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2013, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
I never slated the players. I said the current set was a joke and that something hasn't been right for 20 years. Don't try and twist my postings please.

So if we're score the joke level over each of the last 20 years ...how does this years management score relative to the previous 20 years. If this years management are no worse than previous years then you'd have to wonder why your focusing on their efforts.

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
The fact remains that there's something seriously wrong, it's been that way for 20 + years. I'd love to know what the solution is from all you experts.

At the start you're very specific (i.e. the management setup is a joke), then when youre comments are put under scrutiny, you couldnt be any more vague  ::)


Back to the leagues
We'd a good win against the ports yesterday, with some great performances in many positions. Was a fantastic end to end game on a perfect day for hurling. See the Dall and LG also had narrowish victories up in the ards (the referee probably won it for LG) . Tis a great place to play the game IMO. You always know that you're gonna a get a full blooded contest against any of the penninsula teams. We need them as much as they need us.
The alarm bells were ringing when Ryan came down to our club and said what he said. He then went back on his "closed door" policy after saying in the press that he wouldn't unless in the case of injuries. He has since drafted players in anyway. It doesn't instil much confidence in him.

Reading all the contradictions in your post its doesn't Instill much confidence in your opinion or reports on county managers. We don't you button up now while your still behind

I might offer up an alternative answer to our county woes. The match prior to ours on Saturday evening was there minors played Offlay and beat them handy. Apparently there's a lot of work going in at that age and lower. Contrast that with the fact we can't getting anybody to take our minors it doesn't bode well. Our best performers on Saturday (shorty, graffin mc manus) all came from the minor team that sambo and woody+ beefy before that put a lot of work into with regular trips south for higher octane challenge mathes etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 20, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Christ that was long!!! I had the DT's

aye and a ropey watch  ;)

Cheeky fcuker!! I stopped my watch during game for any injuries so when it says 30 mins I usually blow time up, but the Dall keeper was slow taking frees late on and I added 1.32 for an injury late on. Canny win. decent game and Cushendall deserved to win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:12:49 PM
In terms of the city teams I made it to hannahstow v galls. Scrappy affair not great with both sides missing players. I would have thought galls should have won by more but they weren't able to one the day. Fair enough galls lads? Still a banana skin avoided so promotion still very much on.

From what I hear St. John's sideline were outrageous again. Alot of effort (and finance) going in there but I have to question it all.
Rossa unsurprisingly travelled minus a selection of 1st teamers including both county men - how is this allowed to happen hardstation?

Was elsewhere so didn't see the game, talking to lads tonight before we played a Southy hurling game last night (my first touch was brutal!!) Apparently the Lamhs are really struggling with getting a team out in hurling sad really cause they have had a real battling team over the last few years. Glad to get the win considering we had a hatfull of players missing. We'd need to keep it going though and push on.

Rossa where playing one of the teams they needed to beat to stand any chance of staying up, Glenariff now have two wins which may be enough as Rossa won't get too many chances to stay up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 20, 2013, 11:49:05 PM
Rossa need to pick up points soon, though safety will likely be so little points that draws and the odd home win could still be enough for Rossa. Time will tell but another poor start for them just like last season.

St Gall's seem to be enjoying the fact that the couple of stronger teams near the top of the league have moved on and this has given them the belief to keep going and finally attempt to win Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2013, 07:31:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 20, 2013, 11:49:05 PM
Rossa need to pick up points soon, though safety will likely be so little points that draws and the odd home win could still be enough for Rossa. Time will tell but another poor start for them just like last season.

St Gall's seem to be enjoying the fact that the couple of stronger teams near the top of the league have moved on and this has given them the belief to keep going and finally attempt to win Div 2.

With our current squad (no Stewart or McGourty's) we are doing really well, credit to the management and players who have committed this year. Will make myself available if we do manage to win title, means I'll have won a  div 4,3 and 2 title!!  But yes City Slicker with the teams left in div 2 it would be crazy to lose it this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:08:00 PM

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

ALL THREE CORRECT!


3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

ALSO CORREEXT GIVEN HOW CLOSE GAMES WERE.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

BOTH CORRECT

Sarsfields to beat Carey CORRECT
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg CORRECT
Randalstwon to beat Gort DRAW
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here! BEST PREDICTION OF ALL!

NOW COME ON GUYS YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME CREDIT HERE!
EVEN MR2 HAS TO CONCEDE THAT'S IMPRESSIVE?!

Dont be getting ahead of yourself there btdtgtt - look at your predictions, you picked all three of the big guns and home teams the rest of the way

Got flukey with the draw, I wouldnt be raiding the Paddy Power account just yet.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 21, 2013, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 20, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Christ that was long!!! I had the DT's

aye and a ropey watch  ;)

Cheeky fcuker!! I stopped my watch during game for any injuries so when it says 30 mins I usually blow time up, but the Dall keeper was slow taking frees late on and I added 1.32 for an injury late on. Canny win. decent game and Cushendall deserved to win

Only joking, the Dall were full value for the win and we could never close the 3-5 point gap in the second half, the late goal probably made it look a bit closer than it was, but I'd have to credit our lads, we'd 4 just out of minor and another just out of U-16 in the corner and they battled away rightly even though we'd one in corner forward and I don't remember him playing beyond No.4. in his juvenile days, but I'd rather get beat with young fella's learning their way than lads who'll never make it.

Another injury to probably our best defender on saturday, with Ben Toner getting a collapsed lung in a collision against Derry, another lad got married on Saturday and was out, plus one of our starting midfielders injured for a few weeks now. We just don't have any depth to the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 21, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:08:00 PM

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

ALL THREE CORRECT!


3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

ALSO CORREEXT GIVEN HOW CLOSE GAMES WERE.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

BOTH CORRECT

Sarsfields to beat Carey CORRECT
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg CORRECT
Randalstwon to beat Gort DRAW
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here! BEST PREDICTION OF ALL!

NOW COME ON GUYS YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME CREDIT HERE!
EVEN MR2 HAS TO CONCEDE THAT'S IMPRESSIVE?!

Dont be getting ahead of yourself there btdtgtt - look at your predictions, you picked all three of the big guns and home teams the rest of the way

Got flukey with the draw, I wouldnt be raiding the Paddy Power account just yet.  ;)

Ach come on NAG1!
Most people would have have fancied an Ards team to turn somebody over its hard to go down there.
Rossa won handy twice against Glenarrife last year but I got that call!
The Johnnies have a certain Tipp man up taking them but it didnt cause the Town any points.
And Div2 is always unpredicatable!
I even called a draw!
Be honest - that was a good weekend's predictions!
Nobody else made the calls!

Mind you - I dont think Paddy Power would be worried much either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2013, 09:39:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 21, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 20, 2013, 05:08:00 PM

Ballygalget V Cdall - Dall
Ballycran V Loughgiel - Shams
Portaferry V Dunloy - Dunloy

ALL THREE CORRECT!


3 really tough and interesting trips for the top3 here!
I am picking the 3 Antrim teams but none of these games would be a surprise if the Ards boys turned them over.

ALSO CORREEXT GIVEN HOW CLOSE GAMES WERE.

Ballycastle V St Johns - Town to win.
Glenarrife V Rossa
I will be at this if the weather holds up. Think Oisins recent win and Rossa's bad start plus disastrous record on the road makes me plump for Oisins by 4 or 5.

BOTH CORRECT

Sarsfields to beat Carey CORRECT
St Galls to beat Lamh Dearg CORRECT
Randalstwon to beat Gort DRAW
Armoy / StPauls - could see a draw here! BEST PREDICTION OF ALL!

NOW COME ON GUYS YOU GOTTA GIVE ME SOME CREDIT HERE!
EVEN MR2 HAS TO CONCEDE THAT'S IMPRESSIVE?!

Dont be getting ahead of yourself there btdtgtt - look at your predictions, you picked all three of the big guns and home teams the rest of the way

Got flukey with the draw, I wouldnt be raiding the Paddy Power account just yet.  ;)

Ach come on NAG1!
Most people would have have fancied an Ards team to turn somebody over its hard to go down there.
Rossa won handy twice against Glenarrife last year but I got that call!
The Johnnies have a certain Tipp man up taking them but it didnt cause the Town any points.
And Div2 is always unpredicatable!
I even called a draw!
Be honest - that was a good weekend's predictions!
Nobody else made the calls!

Mind you - I dont think Paddy Power would be worried much either!

OK OK give us your predictions for the Euro Millions tonight since you are on such a roll  ;D

Fact is the Ards teams had their best players all playing the day before in greater numbers than any of the big three so they were always going to struggle to get any result out of the three games.

St Johns are going to need some more fire power up front if they are going to challenge in the next few years. The possession game is nice to look at but hard to perfect and hard to maintain against the top teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2013, 12:45:26 PM
Was slightly unfair on the the county players of both teams to play competitive games 2 days in a row NAG1, but what do you do?.

Dunloy had the biggest winning margin, away from home yesterday, against a team that's been fairly competitive over the years. So Dunloy going well. Thought Ballycran would have got a result yesterday on their tight pitch, less room for loughgiel to spread ball. Noticeable that all country teams scored twenty scores (Dunloy 1 short) Always a good indicator that the skill levels are starting to kick into gear.

The Div 2 teams that won only scored 13/14 scores, poor enough returns for what was a dry day, that's where they need to work on, the final third, scoring in these teams is usually done by 1/2 players which is bad craic in my view. More work needed to produce more scoring forwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2013, 12:45:26 PM
Was slightly unfair on the the county players of both teams to play competitive games 2 days in a row NAG1, but what do you do?.

Dunloy had the biggest winning margin, away from home yesterday, against a team that's been fairly competitive over the years. So Dunloy going well. Thought Ballycran would have got a result yesterday on their tight pitch, less room for loughgiel to spread ball. Noticeable that all country teams scored twenty scores (Dunloy 1 short) Always a good indicator that the skill levels are starting to kick into gear.

The Div 2 teams that won only scored 13/14 scores, poor enough returns for what was a dry day, that's where they need to work on, the final third, scoring in these teams is usually done by 1/2 players which is bad craic in my view. More work needed to produce more scoring forwards

It wasnt a complaint MR2 was just an observation that the Ards lads were going to struggle without the depth of panel that the big 3 have.

Bit of decent weather would hopefully improve the games all round too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 22, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Very disappointing the Laois result. Think the talent ain't there

Only criticism I could direct at Ryan is the going back on closed panel

He deserves another couple of years. 

Is nelson now on his ticket
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 22, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 22, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Very disappointing the Laois result. Think the talent ain't there

Only criticism I could direct at Ryan is the going back on closed panel

He deserves another couple of years. 

Is nelson now on his ticket

A number of people have taken issue (not having a go at you Saff89!) with Kevin Ryan and this thing about his closed panel comment when he started. So what? He probably made a mistake with the comment but move on for God sake its not really an issue. Any people i have talked to about him says hes a quiet man who is passionate and knows about hurling. Is that not what Antrim need?

As for last Saturday Laois were a better team, simple as. Willie Hyland and Zane Keenan in their half forward line are excellent hurlers. Joe Fitzpatrick was excellent too and did a good job in and around Neil McManus thus nullifying Antrim's only ball winner in the forwards. The thing about that is Kevin Ryan won't create ball winners in the next 2/3 years that work has to be done at club level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I mostly agree but:
How can that be done at club level when the club scene is treated with contempt to the point that there is no recognisable "season" as such which allows clubs to develop anything at all!

Only when our clubs are given a legitimate chance to develop will the rising tide lift the county boat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
Chicken and egg then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on May 22, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 22, 2013, 09:14:40 PM
I mostly agree but:
How can that be done at club level when the club scene is treated with contempt to the point that there is no recognisable "season" as such which allows clubs to develop anything at all!

Only when our clubs are given a legitimate chance to develop will the rising tide lift the county boat.

When i said club level i meant juvenile level. There arent loads of ball winning fowards in Antrim club teams good enough for intercounty level who arent getting the chance because theres not enough club games played!

Its all about the juvenile club level and the work thats put in there. This should then lead on to the better club talent going in to development squads where they will play with and against better players. Laois minors won handy enough in a Leinster minor qf before the senior game on Saturday and by all accounts their development squads have been competing well over the last year or two. Im sure that hard work will pay off in a few years with another Willie Hyland or Zane Keenan moving on to their senior squad. Antrim wont develop a competitive senior team just by playing club games every week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 23, 2013, 12:32:13 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on May 22, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
Antrim wont develop a competitive senior team just by playing club games every week.

And they wont develop when there isn't enough interested hurling men to drive the juvenile development properly. Dont expect any big change in our fortunes. We are where we are because we do not have a critical mass of real hurling people to do it any better than how it is done now. Our top senior clubs are as compeditive as clubs in any other county so we do somethings right but that quality isnt there in big numbers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 23, 2013, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2013, 11:48:22 PM
Chicken and egg then.

I dont think so MR2.
I genuinely believe that no county will be succesful on the national stage unless they have a vibrant club scene.

We have control over what we do within our club scene - masters of oud own destiny that way so to speak - so lets get it right. Lets have it in full flow and not held to ransom by a county manager or the minority/few people he picks (not a slant at Kevin Ryan).
Lets put the emphasis here - and see where it gets us. After all, the way things have been going has hardly been brining much success?!
If more clubs are playing more regular and meaningful games, then more players will come through the assembly line. Simples.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 23, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
WE are not masters of our own destiny

You need a critical mass of interested people first and then you need that the be organised well. Individuals or small cells do what they can.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 23, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
That doesnt contradict what I'm saying skull - we're still our own masters in terms of people being involved.
Perhaps if the club scene was more vibrant, less ad hoc, more people would be willing to give their time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Beat ballycran by 2 points with a much changed team. Happy enough with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Dunloy 4-23 ballygalget 1-06. Great performance from us the night. Shorty was unmarkable again. Brilliant performance with I think 2-06 to his name.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 26, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
Ballycastle 6-16 Portaferry 2-12

Form book is all wrong lol

Ballygalget beat the Town by 9
The Town beat Dunloy by 12
Dunloy beat Ballygalget by 26
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 27, 2013, 08:33:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 26, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Dunloy 4-23 ballygalget 1-06. Great performance from us the night. Shorty was unmarkable again. Brilliant performance with I think 2-06 to his name.

These two games, two days running (AET on Saturday) are taking their toll on our county men, they're getting pretty jaded at the minute.

I think we're meant to be playing Portaferry on Wednesday night as well as the county men having a replay on Saturday, it's time for someone to put a stop to it IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
I agree. It isn't fair as you could see ballygalget were down to the bare bones. The reserves needed one of our  players and ended up hammered 6-20 to 0-02. That sort of game helps no one. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 27, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
I agree. It isn't fair as you could see ballygalget were down to the bare bones. The reserves needed one of our  players and ended up hammered 6-20 to 0-02. That sort of game helps no one.

Much the same as the Loughgiel reserve match.  We had to lend them 2 players.  Tough going for these teams given the recent schedule of the County side.

Must of been a late drive home last night JC?  Throw in at 8pm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 27, 2013, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2013, 09:05:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 27, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
I agree. It isn't fair as you could see ballygalget were down to the bare bones. The reserves needed one of our  players and ended up hammered 6-20 to 0-02. That sort of game helps no one.

Much the same as the Loughgiel reserve match.  We had to lend them 2 players.  Tough going for these teams given the recent schedule of the County side.

Must of been a late drive home last night JC?  Throw in at 8pm?

Yeah, It was cement sunday down our way, so I'd suggest the late throw in was at our request.

We've a youngish reserve team with half a dozen out with exams of one sort or other, I even got the call up on Monday night myself along with three other retirees to help us field in a junior game. This time of year is always the same, add in a few injuries and we're screwed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 27, 2013, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

The roar of the crowd from the stand in Corrigan has a strange effect on referees Minder, everyone knows that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 27, 2013, 10:33:37 AM
Is it not two up two down in the leagues this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 27, 2013, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

The roar of the crowd from the stand in Corrigan has a strange effect on referees Minder, everyone knows that.

Funny enough it was right at the fence beside the grass hill !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

Lack of interest Minder or down to emigration, work etc?  I thought after your result against Cushendall that you's were making forward strides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 27, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

Lack of interest Minder or down to emigration, work etc?  I thought after your result against Cushendall that you's were making forward strides.

Emigration is the main reason and a couple of retirements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

One of the McCallion;s was standing along with me - even thru Johnnies bias they agreed with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

One of the McCallion;s was standing along with me - even thru Johnnies bias they agreed with that.

He sent two lads off (straight reds) in a South antrim hurling game last week for deliberate striking (each other) so he'd have no bother sending anyone off for deliberate striking. I wasn't there but he probably booked him (in his view) for, rough play, use the hurley in a careless manner, to make a pull with the hurley that's not consistant with playing the ball, all three I've mentioned are yellow card offences. He's nothing to gain in keeping a player on the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I made it up for the 2nd half of the Johnnies game.
St Johns were very busy and too much movement for the Oisins - much better work rate.
Glenarrife are very poor - really carrying alot of players around the pitch.
From what I heard Rossa could have beaten Cushendall - so how the same bunch lost against this Glenarrife team is baffling.
Things dont look good for Lamh Dearg with a heavy defeat against a St Pauls team they would have beaten handily in recent years.

You weren't the ref were you ?! He only made it for the second half too, Terry O'Reilly did the first half, more about him later. Yeah we were very poor and you are right about carrying players but we have no choice, we have lost 8 first team players from last season, no team could absorb that. I actually didn't think we would win a game this year and that's being brutally honest, and if we can sneak a win at home we will probably stay up. Can't see Rossa winning more than 3 games. I said last year another few years in Div 2 would be the best thing for us. I don't mind gettin bad beatings against Shamrocks, Loughgiel but St Johns are no better than average, we made them look like Kilkenny yesterday.

One of the St Johns forwards was in on goal yesterday and our man pulled his jersey, O'Reilly blew for a free, the forward scored anyway and he awarded the goal. Must have his own rule book, he also should have sent McFall off in the first half when the game was competitive, pulled a dirty stroke right in front of him, ref saw it and gave him a yellow. Fair enough if he didn't see it but he did and chickened out of making a big decision.

One of the McCallion;s was standing along with me - even thru Johnnies bias they agreed with that.

He sent two lads off (straight reds) in a South antrim hurling game last week for deliberate striking (each other) so he'd have no bother sending anyone off for deliberate striking. I wasn't there but he probably booked him (in his view) for, rough play, use the hurley in a careless manner, to make a pull with the hurley that's not consistant with playing the ball, all three I've mentioned are yellow card offences. He's nothing to gain in keeping a player on the pitch


Come on MR2 we both know that it would be easier for a ref to send two relatively unknowns off in a Southey match rather than sending a county or ex county player off at home in a div 1 match. This shouldn't be the case I know but some refs find it easy to exert their knowledge of the rule book when deciding the punishment of lesser teams or players than the bigger teams or better known players. An opinion I know but one I feel hat is valid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2013, 01:04:06 PM
Me personally Gizzy15 it makes no difference, you need to be consistant.

I can't make judgement on it as I never seen it, I just gave you some rules in the book that you can use as a guide to make a call. I'm still learning the rules (honestly) the thing is, the referee needs to make that call right away and stand over it. If he
feels as if he got that wrong in hindsight, there is fcuk all he can do about it. But I don't (and Terry has been doing it for a while) think he would feel intimidated by anyone in Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.

Possible bonus win for St John's then if Ballycran don't have county players available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:28:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.

Possible bonus win for St John's then if Ballycran don't have county players available?

Yeah I would have thought these were the types of games St John's should be targeting.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.

Possible bonus win for St John's then if Ballycran don't have county players available?

If was in Ballycran's position I'd be insisting that Down County board do the calling off of the game or their county contingent line out for the club.
What other option would they have unless they agree to play without their county contingent, BUT then by the precedent set last year by Antrim county board where they called off our league game vrs Portaferry at the request of St Johns as there was a feeling that Portaferry would field a weakened team due to them playing championship a week later, giving us an unfair advantage in a relegation battle.

Surely the men from Whiterock wouldn't want that accusation thrown at them this year if other teams in the relegation mire objected due to the weakened nature of the Ballycran team??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.

Possible bonus win for St John's then if Ballycran don't have county players available?

If was in Ballycran's position I'd be insisting that Down County board do the calling off of the game or their county contingent line out for the club.
What other option would they have unless they agree to play without their county contingent, BUT then by the precedent set last year by Antrim county board where they called off our league game vrs Portaferry at the request of St Johns as there was a feeling that Portaferry would field a weakened team due to them playing championship a week later, giving us an unfair advantage in a relegation battle.

Surely the men from Whiterock wouldn't want that accusation thrown at them this year if other teams in the relegation mire objected due to the weakened nature of the Ballycran team??

Wishful thinking JC

I just don't get after how ever many years of this county system now that we can't come up with a programme of games that is fair to the clubs who have county players and to those that can play without.

How many Sundays from July to end of August will we all be sitting kicking our heels with no game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:55 AM
Tough going for the Down lads at the minute and I wouldn't be surprised to see another couple of big scores being rattled up against them.

I personally don't see the panic to get the number of games played in such a short space of time and then have a break with no games for weeks after.

So it is really hard to judge where anyone is at performance wise at the moment.

Possible bonus win for St John's then if Ballycran don't have county players available?

If was in Ballycran's position I'd be insisting that Down County board do the calling off of the game or their county contingent line out for the club.
What other option would they have unless they agree to play without their county contingent, BUT then by the precedent set last year by Antrim county board where they called off our league game vrs Portaferry at the request of St Johns as there was a feeling that Portaferry would field a weakened team due to them playing championship a week later, giving us an unfair advantage in a relegation battle.

Surely the men from Whiterock wouldn't want that accusation thrown at them this year if other teams in the relegation mire objected due to the weakened nature of the Ballycran team??

Wishful thinking JC

I just don't get after how ever many years of this county system now that we can't come up with a programme of games that is fair to the clubs who have county players and to those that can play without.

How many Sundays from July to end of August will we all be sitting kicking our heels with no game?

Its not easy in all fairness with the Down team playing in a different competition and out on different days to the Antrim team who're currently kicking their heels in terms of games. I'm sure Kevin Ryan is all on for playing away at club games at the minute whereas Gerard Monan must be pulling his hair out at the amount of games his players have played in the last few weeks and the more likelihood of soft tear injuries down to just no recovery time between games.

From a club perspective, we'd obviously like to give every game a proper go, but its hard when lads have played 90 minutes the previous day in Trim or wherever and then to face a Dunloy side we'd be doing well to keep to 7 or 8 points with a properly prepared team and go and take a 20+ point tanking. Its not good for morale but we've been there before, probably with a much stronger and maturer squad than we currently have though and we're relying on the young lads to respond in the right manner.

There's 18 rounds of games to get in before club championship kicks in around August, so there's not that many free weekends/sundays as you'd think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 12:03:49 PM
Interesting points on weakened teams - don't start me on the effect of county fixtures again!

Also note that cushendall sent an under21 side to glenarrife which gifted them 2points!

I'm sure hardstation etc noted the effect on Rossa - who in fairness have been playing without county players in their matches I attended.

Level playing field? Not at all.
But that's the nature of league hurling - a test of squad rather the fifteen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
Johnnies Ballycran is off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
Johnnies Ballycran is off.

Nice gesture by the Johnnies.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2013, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 12:03:49 PM
Interesting points on weakened teams - don't start me on the effect of county fixtures again!

Also note that cushendall sent an under21 side to glenarrife which gifted them 2points!

I'm sure hardstation etc noted the effect on Rossa - who in fairness have been playing without county players in their matches I attended.

Level playing field? Not at all.
But that's the nature of league hurling - a test of squad rather the fifteen.

If that was their u-21 team they were playing half of them were over age
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2013, 06:07:24 PM
U21 / reserves.

Surely u are not suggesting ur neighbours sent their legitimate team round?
The point remains.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on May 28, 2013, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on May 04, 2013, 08:55:32 AM
7 30 PM    Ruairí Óg    ---    ---                               Lamh Dhearg                                         
7 30 PM    Naomh Gall    ---    ---                       St Mary's Rasharkin                 
7 30 PM    Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields    ---    ---Mac Uilin CLG             
7 30 PM    Loughgiel Shamrocks    ---    ---         St John's GAC   

Cushendall, St Galls and Shams for the U21 semi finals

Ballycastle could have a tough time with Sarsfields. Paddies dumped them out 2 years ago and this ref has some history with the Town too. He sent off 2 players and management pair in a league game last year.  Sarsfields to win could be a good bet.

Black and amber you have been quiet on our u21 run recently.......given your last time mentioning them was predicting Sarsfields to turn them over.........

How's the golf going ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
terry didn't want McFall to slabber and shout at him in front of all the johnnies men I would say

sounds like a poor performance from him

however don't think he was the real difference

Was at the dall v oisins game and reckon the had about 4 / 5 u21s paddy McGill was a lad I noticed thought he was in oz
karl mckeegan etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
terry didn't want McFall to slabber and shout at him in front of all the johnnies men I would say

sounds like a poor performance from him

however don't think he was the real difference

Was at the dall v oisins game and reckon the had about 4 / 5 u21s paddy McGill was a lad I noticed thought he was in oz
karl mckeegan etc

Can't have anyone slabber at him? Again that would be even more of a reason to red card him. Like I said earlier I doubt very much that would be a reason to not send him off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 29, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
terry didn't want McFall to slabber and shout at him in front of all the johnnies men I would say

sounds like a poor performance from him

however don't think he was the real difference

Was at the dall v oisins game and reckon the had about 4 / 5 u21s paddy McGill was a lad I noticed thought he was in oz
karl mckeegan etc

Can't have anyone slabber at him? Again that would be even more of a reason to red card him. Like I said earlier I doubt very much that would be a reason to not send him off

I would have thought that if it was a red card he would have issued it regardless of the person or the place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 29, 2013, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 29, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
terry didn't want McFall to slabber and shout at him in front of all the johnnies men I would say

sounds like a poor performance from him

however don't think he was the real difference

Was at the dall v oisins game and reckon the had about 4 / 5 u21s paddy McGill was a lad I noticed thought he was in oz
karl mckeegan etc

Can't have anyone slabber at him? Again that would be even more of a reason to red card him. Like I said earlier I doubt very much that would be a reason to not send him off

I would have thought that if it was a red card he would have issued it regardless of the person or the place.

I would like to have thought that too,  but my point is some referees might not be strong enough to make unpopular decisions regardless of them being the right ones.

some crowds /  players can intimidate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on May 29, 2013, 08:24:48 PM
Big, bad Brian this week; big, bad Liam last week (and most weeks)...wonder who will irk the Cyril Farrells and Tomas Mulcahys of Antrim hurling next week, or what unfortunate whistler will bear the responsibility for a team's shortcomings?

A good old laugh all the same!  Irrational begrudgery and paranoia always is...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 29, 2013, 09:29:17 PM
Welcome fox.   I already like you!!!   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 29, 2013, 09:30:47 PM
Shamrocks 1-14   Dall 0-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
Ft Rossa 0-08 dunloy 3-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 29, 2013, 09:40:32 PM
Big scoring D R.  In the city to. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 29, 2013, 09:43:27 PM
Just back from the Rossa Dunloy game.
Competitive 1st 10mins trading points before Dunloy got a goal and then it descended into a procession. Dunloy were easy on the eye - shields a joy to watch. Rossa looked like a clueless juvenile team. Hardstation where are Armstrong Hamill close?
Will be back at Rossa this weekend - possibly for last time if tonight was anything to go by.

Another solid victory for st galls - all positive noises coming from milltown lads?
Lamh dearg continue to worry me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 29, 2013, 09:53:15 PM
will head up to the rossa v oisins game on sunday

reckon that will be the main focus for both teams this week

lets hope for a decent ref

reckon rossa will be too strong

was there a full hand from both teams shown tonight SIE  ????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2013, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on May 29, 2013, 09:53:15 PM
will head up to the rossa v oisins game on sunday

reckon that will be the main focus for both teams this week

lets hope for a decent ref

reckon rossa will be too strong

was there a full hand from both teams shown tonight SIE  ????????????
We were missing DD, Neilly, Ronan, James Campbell, Benny and skinner. Eddie came on with ten minutes left. As far as I could tell the 'Dall were only missing C. Carson.

A great result considering how many we'd out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2013, 10:44:02 PM
Just home from the game in Belfast. Tight enough in the first 10 mins until we got the goal thru Nigel Elliott and pulled away at the break 1-10 to 0-05 up. Second half was near one way. Shorty as per usual was brilliant. Paddy Richmond played a great game and scored a few great points. Tow more goals from Nigel Elliott and shorty killed the game off.
Good scoring yet again after 4-20 on Sunday.
Hopefully Monday evenings game is a good one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 29, 2013, 10:44:02 PM
Just home from the game in Belfast. Tight enough in the first 10 mins until we got the goal thru Nigel Elliott and pulled away at the break 1-10 to 0-05 up. Second half was near one way. Shorty as per usual was brilliant. Paddy Richmond played a great game and scored a few great points. Tow more goals from Nigel Elliott and shorty killed the game off.
Good scoring yet again after 4-20 on Sunday.
Hopefully Monday evenings game is a good one.
it should be. Hopefully the weather will hold up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
A good dry day and two teams goin well and scoring well at that makes for a good game I hope :)
Should be a bumper crowd at it as well with it being the only game that night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 09:33:23 AM
Does set the Dunloy - Loughgiel game up well for Monday night, interesting to see if LG get some of their players back for that one or of the rotation policy continues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

Not going to get into a slagging match, but as far as I can see a lot of our refs can spot the small technical fouls no problem, but are still allowing the dangerous swinging and pulling even if its not close to the ball. A bug bear of mine admittedly but I think that is what frustrates people when they see this contrast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 30, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

I agree fully with this point MR2 - but it doesnt make it right.

Refs should referree by the rulebook - not by teams or players.

If its getting called right the rest will look after itself - refs putting their own slant on games can create more problems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

Not going to get into a slagging match, but as far as I can see a lot of our refs can spot the small technical fouls no problem, but are still allowing the dangerous swinging and pulling even if its not close to the ball. A bug bear of mine admittedly but I think that is what frustrates people when they see this contrast.

The slaps, or as a player puts it "I was trying to swipe the ball as he grabbed it" It's a foul. If I were to blow it all the time then there are some teams out there that would be complaining a lot. If the player gets the ball the referee can decide to let the play unfold and play advantage. Some referees will blow right away others will (as to the rule book) allow play to develop. No one wrong here. He could go back and book player if it's real bad but usually they don't.

As for the early high pulling NAG1, it's very hard to get it right. It's great when both players want the ball but usually (after some niggling) a player will pull early, it's up to the referee to interpret that and blow. But it really needs to be blatant. The pull early and low ones are easier to call.

Quote from: btdtgtt on May 30, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

I agree fully with this point MR2 - but it doesnt make it right.

Refs should referree by the rulebook - not by teams or players.

If its getting called right the rest will look after itself - refs putting their own slant on games can create more problems.

I never said it was right btdtgtt, but as I said above, the advantage rule can be applied
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

Not going to get into a slagging match, but as far as I can see a lot of our refs can spot the small technical fouls no problem, but are still allowing the dangerous swinging and pulling even if its not close to the ball. A bug bear of mine admittedly but I think that is what frustrates people when they see this contrast.

The slaps, or as a player puts it "I was trying to swipe the ball as he grabbed it" It's a foul. If I were to blow it all the time then there are some teams out there that would be complaining a lot. If the player gets the ball the referee can decide to let the play unfold and play advantage. Some referees will blow right away others will (as to the rule book) allow play to develop. No one wrong here. He could go back and book player if it's real bad but usually they don't.

As for the early high pulling NAG1, it's very hard to get it right. It's great when both players want the ball but usually (after some niggling) a player will pull early, it's up to the referee to interpret that and blow. But it really needs to be blatant. The pull early and low ones are easier to call.

Quote from: btdtgtt on May 30, 2013, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

I agree fully with this point MR2 - but it doesnt make it right.

Refs should referree by the rulebook - not by teams or players.

If its getting called right the rest will look after itself - refs putting their own slant on games can create more problems.

I never said it was right btdtgtt, but as I said above, the advantage rule can be applied

MR2 not having a dig at you and I know you are doing a good job without much thanks, but my point is that actually this is one of the easier ones to spot, plus the fact that it is one of the more dangerous ones makes it really important to pull up. IMO it is the action of a gutless hurler who is trying to get his strike in first before he might get one back.

Its all about body positions and watching the players as the ball is dropping.

As you said league and championship are two different levels and everyone expects that championship hurling is played at and refereed at a different level to a normal Wednesday night game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

To be honest MR2 that was my opinion of it as well.  Rather than have any melees break out he was blowing up early and there was obvious frustration from both sides of the pitch on a number of occassions.

The match was a tough one bt no dirty slaps.  The Cushendall fullback line and our FF line were taking a good few drives at each other off the ball but never looked like getting out of hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 30, 2013, 09:33:23 AM
Does set the Dunloy - Loughgiel game up well for Monday night, interesting to see if LG get some of their players back for that one or of the rotation policy continues.

A number of these changes were forced.  Neil McGarry is on holidays and I'm not sure if he's back for Monday.  Eddie, Skinner, Ronan and Benny had all been carrying injuries going into the game but I dont know enough to comment upon their availability for Monday.  Eddie did look sharp when he came on.  A. Graffin is fast on his feet but Eddie left him for dead at a time in the second half to score a point from a tight angle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
Good win for Loughgiel last night considering a few absentees as pointed out by SIE.  Loughgiel offered more of a scoring threat from play which got them over the line.  Being able to bring Eddie on for the last 10 minutes also crucial.

Good performances from a few of Loughgiels lighter/speedier forwards in Shay, Donal and Seamy.  Cushendalls young number 7 (not sure of name) looks a good hurler.

Thought the referee was very whistle happy (for both teams) so it was a bit stop start at times.

These games can get a bit fiesty so maybe he was just ensuring that the wee slaps and pulls don't turn out to be worse later on, once you lose control it's very hard to get it back I feel. League games are defo refereed different than Championship I think, they shouldn't but are

To be honest MR2 that was my opinion of it as well.  Rather than have any melees break out he was blowing up early and there was obvious frustration from both sides of the pitch on a number of occassions.

The match was a tough one bt no dirty slaps.  The Cushendall fullback line and our FF line were taking a good few drives at each other off the ball but never looked like getting out of hand.

The referee is between a rock and a hard place. That's traditionally a meaty affair as is Monday nights game. Haven't done a game like that so don't know how I'd handle it in fairness. I would usually take it as it comes we no preconceived views on things. The best way to referee it is to be consistant and be beside each incident/tackle as best as you can. Near on impossible sometimes in hurling as the ball can be struck 60/70 yards, so knowing styles of play from the teams is important. Hard work being a ref  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on May 30, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
We have had a decent run recently after a poor start to the league. For first time in as long while we are throwing up some big scores, although to be fair portaferry where hindered by county men's exploits and glenariffe are just struggling. However after two decades on failure it warms the heart to see a bit of real class in our club. But always a warning sign with our lads. It's only june and a lot of hurling to be played before Sept. On another positive note we are sitting top of reserve league, which coupled with winning reserve championship last year is some step forward from where we were. I just hope we push on and are realistic that we have a young squad who need developing.

Elsewhere dunloy seem to have found form again, and shorty is getting back to his best. I always thought he was a magic player. Great to watch. Will def take in there game with shams on Monday.

Loughgiel however Will take sum beating over next 2 or 3 years......they have a bit of depth to panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 30, 2013, 11:06:21 PM
Always been a great championship club leyland - glad to see the town competitive again and speaks volumes for the calibre of club men there.
Agree with you though - just don't see anyone toppling the shamrocks with their strength in depth. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 31, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
Quote from: Leyland on May 30, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
We have had a decent run recently after a poor start to the league. For first time in as long while we are throwing up some big scores, although to be fair portaferry where hindered by county men's exploits and glenariffe are just struggling. However after two decades on failure it warms the heart to see a bit of real class in our club. But always a warning sign with our lads. It's only june and a lot of hurling to be played before Sept. On another positive note we are sitting top of reserve league, which coupled with winning reserve championship last year is some step forward from where we were. I just hope we push on and are realistic that we have a young squad who need developing.

Elsewhere dunloy seem to have found form again, and shorty is getting back to his best. I always thought he was a magic player. Great to watch. Will def take in there game with shams on Monday.

Loughgiel however Will take sum beating over next 2 or 3 years......they have a bit of depth to panel.

In fairness I think we should nearly discount any results against the Ards boys until they are done with the CR. A better indicator of form will be the results between the 4 North Antrim clubs and only then if they are playing with a full deck or close to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on May 31, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
Any word yet on U21 Championship final - when it will be fixed for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 31, 2013, 07:07:33 PM
yeah would like to find that out

last year it was one of the best games

should be a cracker this year with st johns and ballycastle  (2 good teams)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 01, 2013, 10:22:54 AM
Quote from: Leyland on May 30, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
We have had a decent run recently after a poor start to the league. For first time in as long while we are throwing up some big scores, although to be fair portaferry where hindered by county men's exploits and glenariffe are just struggling. However after two decades on failure it warms the heart to see a bit of real class in our club. But always a warning sign with our lads. It's only june and a lot of hurling to be played before Sept. On another positive note we are sitting top of reserve league, which coupled with winning reserve championship last year is some step forward from where we were. I just hope we push on and are realistic that we have a young squad who need developing.

Elsewhere dunloy seem to have found form again, and shorty is getting back to his best. I always thought he was a magic player. Great to watch. Will def take in there game with shams on Monday.

Loughgiel however Will take sum beating over next 2 or 3 years......they have a bit of depth to panel.

Would agree with most of that Leyland. Recent under 21 success and reserves says a lot for the work being put in
at juvenile level and current management are bringing them on. They are young and still a work in progress and
will take a couple of years to mature and really start challenging. Lets hope they can keep the squad together.
Any news on Hippy? Last I heard he was looking at an op.

Your first post mentioned my Sarsfields prediction. I learned that from MR2. St Galls never train you know and have to borrow sticks and helmets any time they have a big game.  ;)

How do you see them going against St Johns in the final?

And golf? Never played the game in my life. I would'nt have the time or the inclination.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 01, 2013, 05:07:52 PM
Just home after a tour of the falls made worthwhile by an incredible day at Rossa.

Full credit hardstation to the club.
Teams from all over Ireland and the Liam McCarthy cup - pitches swamped by young Gaels.
It was the sort of days stops us all from becoming old man on the hill cynics.

Kilmacud crimes won but by that stage the day at for a long time been a success for everyone.

I work with a Protestant guy who I keep promising to take to a game - absolutely gutted I didn't take him up there today! Everything that was great about our association. 

Well done to everyone at Rossa I am sure there was a mountain of work involved in bringing so many teams from Kilkenny Galway etc.

Ps hardstation: i didnt know there was a "social area" in Rossa as well!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 01, 2013, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 01, 2013, 05:37:39 PM
Social area has been there for about a year now and is open at all matches. Think you get a free cup of tea or coffee with your £3 admission to senior games.

Is that all?!
Once again well done today - a great spectacle and no doubt a lot of hard work went into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 01, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
Understood.
I will maybe get an invite for a cup of tea tomorro! Going to watch glenarrife match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2013, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 01, 2013, 05:07:52 PM
Just home after a tour of the falls made worthwhile by an incredible day at Rossa.

Full credit hardstation to the club.
Teams from all over Ireland and the Liam McCarthy cup - pitches swamped by young Gaels.
It was the sort of days stops us all from becoming old man on the hill cynics.

Kilmacud crimes won but by that stage the day at for a long time been a success for everyone.

I work with a Protestant guy who I keep promising to take to a game - absolutely gutted I didn't take him up there today! Everything that was great about our association. 

Well done to everyone at Rossa I am sure there was a mountain of work involved in bringing so many teams from Kilkenny Galway etc.

Ps hardstation: i didnt know there was a "social area" in Rossa as well!

How did the local teams do against the "big teams"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 02, 2013, 05:17:40 PM
Big result for Rossa today.  Fair score also.  Much needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
We beat Clooney Gaels today, I had to step in and referee it as the ref fixed for it was injured, worst thing in the world to do, you had your own clubmates giving off and the other team thinking you are cheating them!!! Nightmare.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 02, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
Well done MR2. I got a text to do that one 30 minutes before throw in. No way I could make it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 02, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
I heard you never broke sweat in the reserve game today MR2, definitely poacher come game keeper or what! LOL ;) Not easy MR2 and do us a favour pull your feckn socks up! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 02, 2013, 08:11:34 PM
Just 30 minutes Lecale2 you sure???????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 02, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
I heard you never broke sweat in the reserve game today MR2, definitely poacher come game keeper or what! LOL ;) Not easy MR2 and do us a favour pull your feckn socks up! ;)

The game was grand, they wanted to hurl so no need to blow for much during the game. Those are the easy ones.

As for the socks, I was never comfortable with having the socks pulled up.

Quote from: Lecale2 on June 02, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
Well done MR2. I got a text to do that one 30 minutes before throw in. No way I could make it

Between a rock and a hard f**king place. Note to one self, don't do your own team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 02, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
We're going to be short a few tomorrow night. The young fellas are being well brought through this year though. I'd say a couple of regulars are looking at bench time come the championship. Looking forward to tomorrow night, it should be a good tight contest, as always.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2013, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 02, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
We're going to be short a few tomorrow night. The young fellas are being well brought through this year though. I'd say a couple of regulars are looking at bench time come the championship. Looking forward to tomorrow night, it should be a good tight contest, as always.

Dunloy by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 02, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
They'd be favourites alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 02, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
definately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 02, 2013, 11:20:18 PM
You loughgiel boys are getting as bad as Mr2 was forever on about players missing!

That underage tournament was difficult to describe local sides results. Most teams rotated squads so that all the kids got games. So there was some up/down results but in the end Kilmacud won the main trophy and the other shields all went to southern teams even tho local sides beat them at some stage.

I was back to Rossa today who won at a canter. Glenarrife were shocking and I can't fathom how they beat Rossa other than to say Rossa must not travel well unless its to Santa ponsa.
Glenarrife barely looked like scoring and Rossa if anything were wasteful up front.
Bell was like a man amongst boys - Steven Shannon cleaned up - Hamill seemed to do whatever he wanted - McGuinness was busy.
For the oisins only getting at no6 could hold his head up.

I've said it before but Rossa have serious issues given what they are capable of at home yet bately fielding away. Too little too late?

Elsewhere glad to see the johnnies effectively secured div1 status and galls remain on course.
Big win for the gorts while lamh dearg go from bad to worse. Troubled times. 

Such a shame that just as things get interesting again we face some more hap-hazard fixtures scheduling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 02, 2013, 11:57:08 PM
Could have beaten the Dall so that is another game lost (2 points) Would target every game at home from here on in. One win should win it. Don't think Glenariff will win too many more and the score difference is in your favour. Portaferry would be harder team to beat than you think although only 2 points on the board they have push every team this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 03, 2013, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 11:58:01 PM
Remind me. Is it one down?

it hasn't been decided yet.    8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2013, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 03, 2013, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2013, 11:58:01 PM
Remind me. Is it one down?

it hasn't been decided yet.    8)

If Ballycastle................. :D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 03, 2013, 11:17:40 AM
What is the schedule of games anyway, one more on Wednesday and then Sunday and after that when?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 03, 2013, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 03, 2013, 11:17:40 AM
What is the schedule of games anyway, one more on Wednesday and then Sunday and after that when?

I can't see our game vrs the Rossa going ahead after Down beating Meath to go into the Christy Ring final this saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
Game tonight for ourselves and lgiel. Then Wednesday night and Sunday. Next league games are the 19th when we are away to cushendall. Tho the feis cup games are around this period as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2013, 03:12:55 PM
Can see a big crowd tonight...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2071710302_9776d7a1b7_m.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2013, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 03, 2013, 03:12:55 PM
Can see a big crowd tonight...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2071710302_9776d7a1b7_m.jpg)

For a reserve match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 03, 2013, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2013, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 03, 2013, 03:12:55 PM
Can see a big crowd tonight...

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2071710302_9776d7a1b7_m.jpg)

For a reserve match?

Never mind the quality, feel the passion (not the rain  ;)  )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 03, 2013, 10:21:59 PM
Loughgiel 2-15 dunloy 2-13. A fiercely contested game with no quarter asked or given.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
Was a good game SIE. Both teams went at it. First half both sides were poor but in the second it opened up. Lgiel got tr scores at the end and were vital. Both sides missing players I noticed.

Both look good for this year plus a good advert for Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 03, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
Great to hear of such a contest!

Fair to say these are the two best sides with Dunloy only side really contesting shamrocks dominance?
Dall have fallen back - town not there yet.

Can everyone keep the board informed on club fixtures on/off and times this week as there's bound to be some changes due to the down sides in Christy ring & Antrim playing bog ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 04, 2013, 07:50:25 AM
Watched Loughgiel V Dunloy last night, great game with some super hurling. Thought Paddy Richmond was superb. Wondering what Dunloy though of the referee because myself and the two fellas I was with both thought he was very hard on Dunloy. The difference at the moment between Cushendall and Dunloy and Loughgiel is the Shamrocks strength in depth. In both matches Loughgiel were able to bring on subs who contributed but Dunloy and Cushendall's benches look light.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2013, 08:36:24 AM
Jj I thought he was poor for both teams. The quick free annoyed me more as he pulle ours back yet allowed theirs to go and they got a goal for it. I didn't realise lgiel had scored a goal as we were still looking at the ref.
I don't like blaming a ref as at the en of the day you lose a game yourself. Wasn't his best game but not his worst either.
We were missing shorty, nancy and Kevin martin last night. That was paddy docs second game of the season and Kevin mc quillians second game. So we have a good platform to build on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 04, 2013, 10:05:57 AM
A good game in the end up although I thought we only hurled in patches.  It seemed like we managed to go last 10-15 minutes of the first half and first ten minutes of the second half without registering anymore than a point.  It took Dunloy going 5 points up for us to kick into gear.

Johnny Campbell and Eddie McCloskey both stood up massively when we went behind as did Joey Scullion.  Up until then there was limited work / tackles being made in the middle third and Dunloy seemed to have free reign with an extra man always available.  Both teams can take positives but I think both will see plenty to work on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2013, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

I agree, skull, and this is something the great Dunloy teams had, great movement from defence, ball played to a free defender who gave the telling quick ball into the forwards. 50/50 balls nearly always favour the defender. I don't know if it's pure laziness on the part of the defender clearing his line or the forward not showing for the ball.

Drills in training need to reflect what you want in the game or how you'd like the game to be played. Loughgiel for their part have a great set up and manage to pick players at will, that's not luck it's basically playing a simple system of positional play.  They have runners off the man and they play cross field ball to runners who run on to the ball as oppossed to high balls in. 30 yard passes wher the ball is at chest height or the ball bounces into hand, hardest to defend against. I would go so far into say that they play like our senior footballers
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Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 01:27:27 PM
I takes good stick work for the man playing the chest height fast ball, but more importantly it takes confidence and belief in your team mate (because you know he's ready to take the pass) to make it the right pass. All parts of the jigsaw need to fit to make that game work well and that work needs to be done on the training pitch.

Most disappoint thing about last night was our reserves. Dunloy needs the reserve team to be pushing for places on the senior team. Bar the efforts of a few it was abysmal. Loughgiel reserves play the exact same as their seniors and their stickwork and fitness was not far off the same. No reason why we can't have 30-40 of the same (if the mindset was there).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 01:27:27 PM
I takes good stick work for the man playing the chest height fast ball, but more importantly it takes confidence and belief in your team mate (because you know he's ready to take the pass) to make it the right pass. All parts of the jigsaw need to fit to make that game work well and that work needs to be done on the training pitch.

Most disappoint thing about last night was our reserves. Dunloy needs the reserve team to be pushing for places on the senior team. Bar the efforts of a few it was abysmal. Loughgiel reserves play the exact same as their seniors and their stickwork and fitness was not far off the same. No reason why we can't have 30-40 of the same (if the mindset was there).

But as you well know skull, the stick work and confidence comes with winning championships and playing in the latter stages of the All Ireland series. Loughgiels bench as mentioned before is not too bad, even with regular first team players missing.

Makes good for championship this year, Loughgiel to shade it again
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Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 02:01:02 PM
Chicken and egg scenario MR. Id argue you don't win championships without having put the right effort into really improving stick work and team play (thereby developing confidence in your teams ability to win out on the big stage)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 02:01:02 PM
Chicken and egg scenario MR. Id argue you don't win championships without having put the right effort into really improving stick work and team play (thereby developing confidence in your teams ability to win out on the big stage)

Defo, Oh it's hard work being an internet warrior!!!!
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Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 05:01:15 PM
indeed  :)
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
U21 final. 14th June at 7.30. In ballymena.
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Post by: pdiddy on June 04, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

I actually thought our ball distribution was poor last night. Too many times we were guilty of just hitting the ball aimlessly up field and not taking that extra second to pick out a pass. The 2 times the Dunloy full back line switched off we capitalised (which from our point of view was good to see). Those 2 incidents aside and Dunloy would have been good value for a victory.  As someone said earlier plenty for both tems to work on.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on June 04, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
I actually thought our ball distribution was poor last night. Too many times we were guilty of just hitting the ball aimlessly up field and not taking that extra second to pick out a pass.

Maybe from your perspective it was, but youse were trying to find men front more than we were. 
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Post by: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

Watched the clips of your goals last night and both came from fortunate breaks off high balls.  You coud aso argue it was good anticipation by PR and NE though.
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Post by: johnneycool on June 05, 2013, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

Watched the clips of your goals last night and both came from fortunate breaks off high balls.  You coud aso argue it was good anticipation by PR and NE though.

I've always thought that from high balls more are broken than caught cleanly and if someone attacked the periphery of an aerial duel at the correct angle of running they'd get more ball than 'luck' would suggest.

Galway beat Kilkenny in the Leinster final by being first to the breaking ball once they prevented the Kilkenny lads from catching it cleanly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
9 times out of 10 Kilkenny would beat Galway. Kilkenny will not fear Galway as they are too reliant on that wee bit of luck to out gun them.
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Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2013, 09:41:35 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 05, 2013, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

Watched the clips of your goals last night and both came from fortunate breaks off high balls.  You coud aso argue it was good anticipation by PR and NE though.

I've always thought that from high balls more are broken than caught cleanly and if someone attacked the periphery of an aerial duel at the correct angle of running they'd get more ball than 'luck' would suggest.

Galway beat Kilkenny in the Leinster final by being first to the breaking ball once they prevented the Kilkenny lads from catching it cleanly.

JC I highlighted the key word in your correct statement. Even at IC level our players if you watch, will stand around two players contesting a dropping ball waiting for the break to happen, therefore they are static as the ball breaks.

The player picking up the break must be moving to the contact area at pace and ready to jump on the break, if they do this they have effectively taken two opposition players out of the game, if this happens in the half forward line it creates a point chance, if it happens inside you are looking at a one on one with the GK.

Yes sometimes the ball will break in an unexpected way, but if the player moving to that area is doing so at pace they should still be the first to react to this. At the end of the day it comes down to work rate and reading of the game live.
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Post by: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 05, 2013, 09:26:44 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Games won and lost in the last 10... if you're not up for driving on in that part of the game when its there for the taking then don't expect to come out the right side when your up against top opposition. We went 5 up and went to sleep. Overall Loughgiel the much more nuanced team who I'd say easy found their men with 30+ yard passes to the men inside 10 times more than we did. It takes the man inside to move for the ball (movement everywhere) and the man with the ball to know those type of moves are being made and then be able to deliver the right kind of ball to give his team mate the ball winning advantage. At the minute we are playing too may 50/50 balls to our forwards when is great when you get the right breaks but I think we have to work far harder to get our scores because the hard work isn't being done before the ball is delivered.

Watched the clips of your goals last night and both came from fortunate breaks off high balls.  You coud aso argue it was good anticipation by PR and NE though.

I've always thought that from high balls more are broken than caught cleanly and if someone attacked the periphery of an aerial duel at the correct angle of running they'd get more ball than 'luck' would suggest.

Galway beat Kilkenny in the Leinster final by being first to the breaking ball once they prevented the Kilkenny lads from catching it cleanly.

Thought our young corner back could of been better positioned for the first goal (although he had a very solid game and has done well against both CDall and Dunloy). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=080fPOeIOGY

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
Did Owen referee the match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2013, 10:40:39 AM
He did. Referee will always get it in the neck from both sets of myopic supporters. I'd like it explained though and I think players as well, why in the course of the same game, a quick free is called back in one instance, yet another is not. The referee may well have in his mind good reason, but to the rest of us (players and supporters), it is a lack of consistency.
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Post by: north aontroim gael on June 05, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2013, 10:40:39 AM
He did. Referee will always get it in the neck from both sets of myopic supporters. I'd like it explained though and I think players as well, why in the cause of the same game, a quick free is called back in one instance, yet another is not. The referee may well have in his mind good reason, but to the rest of us (players and supporters), it is a lack of consistency.

You have a fair point.  I never even seen the free being hit at the time, just seen the net rising and was surprised that it wasn't called back as per the Dunloy free which didn't even offer them any real advantage when taken.
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Post by: johnneycool on June 05, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
9 times out of 10 Kilkenny would beat Galway. Kilkenny will not fear Galway as they are too reliant on that wee bit of luck to out gun them.

Most teams need that bit of luck to beat Kilkenny, but ask Brian Cody who he thinks are most likely to beat them any given year and he'll say Galway as ability is not in question, its attitude, motivation and direction which you're never sure you'll get with Galway from one year to the next. Galway have inflicted two of the biggest defeats on his teams over the years and they're the ones he's most likely to get wound up on the sideline over, remember thurles in 2006, he was deranged that year as Galway had beaten them the previous year.


On the breaking ball issue, I was hoarse shouting at young lads on the teams I had anything to do with not to get sucked in under the dropping ball, bide their time and hit the periphery at a sprint, rather than standing static below it. But to an extent its understandable as they see their marker a few yards ahead of them and want to get in ahead of them, invariably too early and are then static when the ball finally does break and more often than not we're too small to compete.

It's one of those many things than need worked on in the training field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 05, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
lots of goals in cushendall my sources tell me

cushendall concede 5 but still win

Campbell had a wild pull and got sent off

great evening for hurling but had to stay with the barby


wouldn't say 9 out of 10 times for the cats

more like 7/10 (as always the voice of reason)

MR2 do you get asked to do intercounty games as a referee or are you approached.  Just tapping into to that vast database if you don't mind.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2013, 09:46:11 PM
Dunloy 2-18 st johns 1-17
Another good fast paced game. Though our boys were knackered after 2 games in 2 days.

St. John's look a really good side. Impressed with how they play
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2013, 09:51:39 PM
Just seen the result there.

Cushendall 2-15 ballycastle 5-4

Odd bit of scoring there for ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 06, 2013, 07:33:00 AM
In the Cushendall V Ballycastle game, Ciaran Clarke had a wild pull which Campbell retaliated too and a bit of handbags broke out. No harm done and yellow cards issued which ment Clarke was sent off for 2 yellow cards. Campbell wasn't sent off. Strange game, I though we played by far the better hurling and scored some fantastic points but BC were able to get the goals when they needed them. Matty Donnelly caused a lot of problems at centre forward, when he starts running at a defence how do you stop him?
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 06, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Matty played centre half against us earlier this season. A real handful to work with physically. As for stopping him? I'm glad I don't have to stand in front him being about 11.5 stone!  Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 06, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 06, 2013, 08:24:56 AM
Matty played centre half against us earlier this season. A real handful to work with physically. As for stopping him? I'm glad I don't have to stand in front him being about 11.5 stone!  Lol

+1

Think the point with any of the bigger lads, is to stop them at source, not saying it is easy done. But you have to be right there with them to stop them gaining momentum over an 8-10 yard run, by then it is too late and there will be no stopping them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 06, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
JJONES

Mate had told me campbell got a second yellow for a bad pull on a ballycastle man and was sent off ??????

he also said dall looked better and ballycastle were just able to plunder the goals

heard McGill was taken off before he broke the scoring points from play record or was it is hamstring.  something like 5 points from play in the first 10 mins and then due to injury he was sidelined



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 05, 2013, 09:31:08 PM
lots of goals in cushendall my sources tell me

cushendall concede 5 but still win

Campbell had a wild pull and got sent off

great evening for hurling but had to stay with the barby


wouldn't say 9 out of 10 times for the cats

more like 7/10 (as always the voice of reason)

MR2 do you get asked to do intercounty games as a referee or are you approached.  Just tapping into to that vast database if you don't mind.

I don't really know what the craic is with that, think you need to be recommended and then you have a different exam and fitness test to do. Whether I'd be up for that is another thing (a lot of traveling), there are better games in Div 1 than there would be a some levels at intercounty. Never say never I suppose. Enjoyed the div 4 game last night in fact, plenty heart (and gurning) with some decent fielding and scores taken. Fitness levels completely different though so executing basic skills (that they have) becomes more difficult and its a more conjested playing area
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Post by: Jesusjones on June 06, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
Saffron89 Your mate must have got it wrong. Aye Mc Gill started like a house on fire, knocking points over from all over the place and it was great to see him back on form. If he put his mind to it he would be on the county panel. He pulled up after scoring the 4th point and between getting injured and us getting a sub ready he banged over another point. 5 in 10 mins was some going. Ballycastle were disappointing, we conceeded some very poor goals that kept them in the game but for once this season we dominated the play and posession. We might be starting to come good????????????
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Post by: north aontroim gael on June 07, 2013, 11:30:28 AM
From watching the two games against us last week I'd have Dunloy as slight favourites if they met Cushendall right now in the Championship.  Still plenty of time for both teams to tweak things if they do meet.

Why was Paul Shiels not playing against Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
We didn't want to show a full hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
We didn't want to show a full hand
keeping him under the thumb, so to speak.   ;)
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2013, 11:53:31 AM
It would appear you have it all in hand anyway.
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2013, 01:01:38 PM
Ballycastle were disapointing against Cushendall. They were lucky McGill went off when he did.
He was running riot and the Town could'nt do anything about him. As far as I know his marker had never played
half back and it showed.The Town should'ny panic about one game but as well they should'nt let the 2 point difference
fool them either. Cushendall worked harder and smarter than the Town. It'll be interesting to see how they play against
St Johns after that defeat and the draw against Ballycran. They need to lift themselves again and St Johns won't be easy.
I hope the referee has no issues with Ballycastle  ;)  ::)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2013, 01:01:38 PM
Ballycastle were disapointing against Cushendall. They were lucky McGill went off when he did.
He was running riot and the Town could'nt do anything about him. As far as I know his marker had never played
half back and it showed.The Town should'ny panic about one game but as well they should'nt let the 2 point difference
fool them either. Cushendall worked harder and smarter than the Town. It'll be interesting to see how they play against
St Johns after that defeat and the draw against Ballycran. They need to lift themselves again and St Johns won't be easy.
I hope the referee has no issues with Ballycastle  ;)  ::)

As he tucks into a dirty big fry

Two similar teams I think in terms of level of skill, different styles but should be level on points come the end of the season (i.e, they'll beat the same teams)

Think'll I'll head up to the game anyways and check the referee out ;) I'm sure he's an honest guy who doesn't give a hoot really on who wins the game but no doubt will be the winning or losing of the game depending on where you are from  ;D
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 08, 2013, 01:01:38 PM
Ballycastle were disapointing against Cushendall. They were lucky McGill went off when he did.
He was running riot and the Town could'nt do anything about him. As far as I know his marker had never played
half back and it showed.The Town should'ny panic about one game but as well they should'nt let the 2 point difference
fool them either. Cushendall worked harder and smarter than the Town. It'll be interesting to see how they play against
St Johns after that defeat and the draw against Ballycran. They need to lift themselves again and St Johns won't be easy.
I hope the referee has no issues with Ballycastle  ;)  ::)

As he tucks into a dirty big fry

Two similar teams I think in terms of level of skill, different styles but should be level on points come the end of the season (i.e, they'll beat the same teams)

Think'll I'll head up to the game anyways and check the referee out ;) I'm sure he's an honest guy who doesn't give a hoot really on who wins the game but no doubt will be the winning or losing of the game depending on where you are from  ;D

Will he be brave enough to ignore Mickey and the caterwauling corrigan clamor? lol
Good luck.

Also Congratulations to Down for winning the Christy Ring.  According to Tosh on the radio Kerry had them beat out the gate but they hung on and hung on and Magic scored a goal at the death.  Down 3-16  Kerry 2-17
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
Yeah brilliant result. Fair play to the Down lads and the script was written for Magic to get winner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on June 08, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
' the caterwauling corrigan clamor? lol' will be out in force again tomorrow, all 25 of us :-) should be a good game BlackandAmber. Also looking forward to Friday's game but I'm at a loss to understand why it's in Ballymena, no disrespect to 'All Saints'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: jdyok on June 08, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
' the caterwauling corrigan clamor? lol' will be out in force again tomorrow, all 25 of us :-) should be a good game BlackandAmber. Also looking forward to Friday's game but I'm at a loss to understand why it's in Ballymena, no disrespect to 'All Saints'.

Corrigan could make the difference (or the ref  ;)  ). I think the first game was closer than the scoreline would say. I hear yous have a real good U-21 side and our boys are'nt too bad as well. Should be a good game.  I'd guess it's Ballymena for it's half way and handy for more N Antrim ppl. That sorta assumes more neutral N Antrim ppl will go than neutral Belfast ppl. Dunno if that's right but I think it would be the thinking behind it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: jdyok on June 08, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
' the caterwauling corrigan clamor? lol' will be out in force again tomorrow, all 25 of us :-) should be a good game BlackandAmber. Also looking forward to Friday's game but I'm at a loss to understand why it's in Ballymena, no disrespect to 'All Saints'.

Corrigan could make the difference (or the ref  ;)  ). I think the first game was closer than the scoreline would say. I hear yous have a real good U-21 side and our boys are'nt too bad as well. Should be a good game.  I'd guess it's Ballymena for it's half way and handy for more N Antrim ppl. That sorta assumes more neutral N Antrim ppl will go than neutral Belfast ppl. Dunno if that's right but I think it would be the thinking behind it.

I hope the referee isn't being bullied on a website!! It could sway his thinking  ::)
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Post by: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2013, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 09, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: jdyok on June 08, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
' the caterwauling corrigan clamor? lol' will be out in force again tomorrow, all 25 of us :-) should be a good game BlackandAmber. Also looking forward to Friday's game but I'm at a loss to understand why it's in Ballymena, no disrespect to 'All Saints'.

Corrigan could make the difference (or the ref  ;)  ). I think the first game was closer than the scoreline would say. I hear yous have a real good U-21 side and our boys are'nt too bad as well. Should be a good game.  I'd guess it's Ballymena for it's half way and handy for more N Antrim ppl. That sorta assumes more neutral N Antrim ppl will go than neutral Belfast ppl. Dunno if that's right but I think it would be the thinking behind it.

I hope the referee isn't being bullied on a website!! It could sway his thinking  ::)

He'd not be wastin his time readin this crap would he?   He'll be studying the rule book. 
smiley: roll
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 09, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Jesus MR2, we will wait and see how long this positivity lasts! First time u make a Henrie's and you will make wrong calls, so long as they say its not a game changers I hope!! Good luck and break a leg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 09, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Jesus MR2, we will wait and see how long this positivity lasts! First time u make a Henrie's and you will make wrong calls, so long as they say its not a game changers I hope!! Good luck and break a leg.

Referees don't make wrong calls, they call it as they see it, not necessary what others may see but...........WGAF?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 09, 2013, 09:07:26 PM
Dunloy 2-25 Rossa 1-12. Bit of a flat game in very warm conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on June 09, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
Watching the Sunday Game there and really liked Donal Og Cusacks idea about an Ulster team playing in the Liam McCarthy Cup.  I think it would really promote hurling in Ulster and gives Antrims better players a chance of mixing it with the best of Ireland. 

Antrim/Down/Derry etc will never be overly competitive in the All Ireland and you only have to look at the combined Colleges team that played in the A Colleges All Ireland, even though they got beat, they were competitive and should of won.  Resources were put in and the players bought into it, surely our seniors would buy into it as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2013, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 09, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
Watching the Sunday Game there and really liked Donal Og Cusacks idea about an Ulster team playing in the Liam McCarthy Cup.  I think it would really promote hurling in Ulster and gives Antrims better players a chance of mixing it with the best of Ireland. 

Antrim/Down/Derry etc will never be overly competitive in the All Ireland and you only have to look at the combined Colleges team that played in the A Colleges All Ireland, even though they got beat, they were competitive and should of won.  Resources were put in and the players bought into it, surely our seniors would buy into it as well.

We can't even mix it with the mediocre in Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 09, 2013, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 09, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
Watching the Sunday Game there and really liked Donal Og Cusacks idea about an Ulster team playing in the Liam McCarthy Cup.  I think it would really promote hurling in Ulster and gives Antrims better players a chance of mixing it with the best of Ireland. 

Antrim/Down/Derry etc will never be overly competitive in the All Ireland and you only have to look at the combined Colleges team that played in the A Colleges All Ireland, even though they got beat, they were competitive and should of won.  Resources were put in and the players bought into it, surely our seniors would buy into it as well.

No chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the jonnies.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the jonnies.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the jonnies.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the jonnies.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the jonnies.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps

Both teams flatter to deceive and really should be better than they are but aren't. Come championship don't see this being drastically different. For all the 'talent' St Johns have been bringing through they haven't produced any real menacing forwards, CJ is without doubt a class act but teams will soon get wise to that as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the Johnnie's.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps

MR2, I think Arthur the Fox is being a bit generous to you in giving you the benefit of the doubt.  Bottom line was, you saw the deliberate strike on 'Big Bad Brian' and bottled the decision.  I can certainly understand the reason for doing so, as you assumed you'd get less stick from the'Heckling Mob' on the hill, than from Burnie Nesbitt!! I'm sure you're ears and head were splitting on the way home.  He mustn't be allowed to talk in the house!

All in all, I thought you done a great job and were helped by the players who just wanted to hurl.  None of us are perfect and of course you will miss the occasional thing or two.  I agree both these teams are ones for the future and are somewhat behind Loughiel and Cushendall, Dunloy not so much!  Some great young talent on display and with a bit of luck you'll see both St. Johns and Ballycastle's name back on the Volunteer Cup, where they have been missing for far too long.
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the Johnnie's.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps

MR2, I think Arthur the Fox is being a bit generous to you in giving you the benefit of the doubt.  Bottom line was, you saw the deliberate strike on 'Big Bad Brian' and bottled the decision.  I can certainly understand the reason for doing so, as you assumed you'd get less stick from the'Heckling Mob' on the hill, than from Burnie Nesbitt!! I'm sure you're ears and head were splitting on the way home.  He mustn't be allowed to talk in the house!

All in all, I thought you done a great job and were helped by the players who just wanted to hurl.  None of us are perfect and of course you will miss the occasional thing or two.  I agree both these teams are ones for the future and are somewhat behind Loughiel and Cushendall, Dunloy not so much!  Some great young talent on display and with a bit of luck you'll see both St. Johns and Ballycastle's name back on the Volunteer Cup, where they have been missing for far too long.
;)

Again I am baffled as to see how Cushendall have been and continue to be ranked on here by contributors above Dunloy, point me out any recent history which would point to this being the case?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 03:34:29 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the Johnnie's.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps

MR2, I think Arthur the Fox is being a bit generous to you in giving you the benefit of the doubt. Bottom line was, you saw the deliberate strike on 'Big Bad Brian' and bottled the decision.  I can certainly understand the reason for doing so, as you assumed you'd get less stick from the'Heckling Mob' on the hill, than from Burnie Nesbitt!! I'm sure you're ears and head were splitting on the way home.  He mustn't be allowed to talk in the house!

All in all, I thought you done a great job and were helped by the players who just wanted to hurl.  None of us are perfect and of course you will miss the occasional thing or two.  I agree both these teams are ones for the future and are somewhat behind Loughiel and Cushendall, Dunloy not so much!  Some great young talent on display and with a bit of luck you'll see both St. Johns and Ballycastle's name back on the Volunteer Cup, where they have been missing for far too long.
;)

A bit of rough play and bad acting, nothing of any note in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
From the ones I talked to today, St Johns deserved the win. Our tactics were wrong
and they took good scores. They got a goal just on half time when we were getting
back into it and it was a bad goal to give away.
The main talking point wasn't the ref.
It is alleged that a certain fat loudmouth on the St Johns sideline told his son to
inflict some damage on our youngest player and that his son tried that twice in off
the ball strikes. The thought is that this was done with Friday evening in mind.
The ref was'nt blamed for that because he did'nt see them but there was a question about
the yellow card at the end.
To sum up. The ref was OK. St Johns deserved to win. Mickey Johnson is a sc**bag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 10, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
From the ones I talked to today, St Johns deserved the win. Our tactics were wrong
and they took good scores. They got a goal just on half time when we were getting
back into it and it was a bad goal to give away.
The main talking point wasn't the ref.
It is alleged that a certain fat loudmouth on the St Johns sideline told his son to
inflict some damage on our youngest player and that his son tried that twice in off
the ball strikes. The thought is that this was done with Friday evening in mind.
The ref was'nt blamed for that because he did'nt see them but there was a question about
the yellow card at the end.
To sum up. The ref was OK. St Johns deserved to win. Mickey Johnson is a sc**bag.

He's some clown alright, shouting at our lads something about building police stations and army barracks during the troubles, not one of our lads had the first notion what he was going on about.

That aside he must be a decent enough coach but the slabbering must get a bit embarrassing for the players though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 10, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 10, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
From the ones I talked to today, St Johns deserved the win. Our tactics were wrong
and they took good scores. They got a goal just on half time when we were getting
back into it and it was a bad goal to give away.
The main talking point wasn't the ref.
It is alleged that a certain fat loudmouth on the St Johns sideline told his son to
inflict some damage on our youngest player and that his son tried that twice in off
the ball strikes. The thought is that this was done with Friday evening in mind.
The ref was'nt blamed for that because he did'nt see them but there was a question about
the yellow card at the end.
To sum up. The ref was OK. St Johns deserved to win. Mickey Johnson is a sc**bag.

He's some clown alright, shouting at our lads something about building police stations and army barracks during the troubles, not one of our lads had the first notion what he was going on about.

That aside he must be a decent enough coach but the slabbering must get a bit embarrassing for the players sons though!

Fixed that for you JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 04:24:13 PM
So it's Micky's turn this week!  Winker and Brian have had their go!  Go and grow a pair and confront the man at the time if you have an issue!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 10, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
Always seemed very driven .... time will tell if its too driven

Need to be careful not to hang on alleged comments and using them as fact. We don't even know what is alleged to have been said so lets not put 2 and 2 together. Theres a fair old distance between "ffs get stuck into him" and "break his feckin hand on the next ball". The first one's suitably vague   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 10, 2013, 04:55:24 PM
What was the ballycastle man booked for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 05:18:54 PM
Deliberate striking!  New rules apparently  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Told ya MR2, I heard it was a def red card though! I am told duffy was holding your hand! Any truth in that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Thought the ref did a pretty good job in the johnnies v Town match. No doubt the Johnnies deserved to win and not too many of the Ballycastle lads would argue with that. The incident at the end was nothing and MR2 got it spot on. Brian seemed to wait on the card being shown before resuming to action, some might say a bit of simulation on his part. It's very easy to criticise the ref, but try it yourself and you'll see how hard it is. Think it would be an idea to compell players/officials who verbally abuse refs to ref a juvenile game themselves - they'd soon learn a lesson.

Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites. As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Told ya MR2, I heard it was a def red card though! I am told duffy was holding your hand! Any truth in that!

Nothing incident and nothing mentioned by the Jonhnnies or Castle men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 10, 2013, 11:52:21 PM
So what was he booked for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 11, 2013, 02:04:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on June 10, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on June 10, 2013, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 10, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
Well MR2 how did it go? Looks a comfortable win for the Johnnie's.

The Johnnies started the better and racked up a few scores, Ballycastle missed some easy frees which would have made it tighter. No real talking points, the referee took some hackling form the mob on the hill but that's to be expected from them.

The goals the Johnnies got made the difference, just before half time and mid way through second half when Ballycastle made some inroads into the Johnnies lead.

Whether these clubs will be there when it matters is a different thing, won't make a matter come championship, between the other 3 with Loughgiel out in front

Easier than expected victory for St John's.  From my vantage point, you seemed to get more abuse from the Ballycastle line than you got from both sets of supporters.  The small fella on their line seemed to question every decision you gave.  Maybe the St John's manager reads this board as he wasn't even on the pitch in the first half. 

I think you reffed the game alright, save for the incident near the end when big bad Brian was bingoed near the 'heckling mob'.  If you saw it the Ballycastle no2 striking should have walked...otherwise he shouldn't have been yellow carded.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Apparently both at it, knowing Brian then maybe there's maybe some truth in that, and for a big man he went down very easily ;)

The game wasn't overly nasty which always helps

MR2, I think Arthur the Fox is being a bit generous to you in giving you the benefit of the doubt.  Bottom line was, you saw the deliberate strike on 'Big Bad Brian' and bottled the decision.  I can certainly understand the reason for doing so, as you assumed you'd get less stick from the'Heckling Mob' on the hill, than from Burnie Nesbitt!! I'm sure you're ears and head were splitting on the way home.  He mustn't be allowed to talk in the house!

All in all, I thought you done a great job and were helped by the players who just wanted to hurl.  None of us are perfect and of course you will miss the occasional thing or two.  I agree both these teams are ones for the future and are somewhat behind Loughiel and Cushendall, Dunloy not so much!  Some great young talent on display and with a bit of luck you'll see both St. Johns and Ballycastle's name back on the Volunteer Cup, where they have been missing for far too long.
;)

Again I am baffled as to see how Cushendall have been and continue to be ranked on here by contributors above Dunloy, point me out any recent history which would point to this being the case?
me to!!    ;D  joking aside.  Will this be the most wide open championship in years?  Dall Dunloy and ourselves!   Anyone else got a genuine chance?   No harm intended! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 07:24:35 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 10, 2013, 11:52:21 PM
So what was he booked for?

Think the referee booked him for rough play ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 09:12:24 AM
Is the U21 Final in Ballymena Friday evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 09:12:24 AM
Is the U21 Final in Ballymena Friday evening?

yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on June 11, 2013, 02:29:33 PM
well if the town do 'beat the golden era of St John's under age talent' where they will go from there is back to the training field and have another crack at it next year and the year after. The 'the golden era of St John's under age talent' didn't win minor 3 years ago so not sure how they are such hot favorites this time round. Most of them are just out of minor and still have a lot to learn. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2013, 02:30:34 PM
Bate to the ball.

Sure pull on anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
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As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
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Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
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Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?

Yes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
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Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?

Yes?

Watch your next game and tell me how many red/yellow cards are handed out for this, so a missed time tackle/flick for the ball deserves a yello/red? The All Ireland Championships have a lot to answer for this, this is common in every game, count the amount of times it happens, and in the All Ireland club a lad was sent off for the same thing and a lot of posters thought it was slightly unfair, on reflection I thought it was the right decision but the referee only gets one look at it....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2013, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
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Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
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Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?

Yes?

Watch your next game and tell me how many red/yellow cards are handed out for this, so a missed time tackle/flick for the ball deserves a yello/red? The All Ireland Championships have a lot to answer for this, this is common in every game, count the amount of times it happens, and in the All Ireland club a lad was sent off for the same thing and a lot of posters thought it was slightly unfair, on reflection I thought it was the right decision but the referee only gets one look at it....

What was unfair about it was that we watch it go all summer, yet some club player does it and gets the line.
There's a difference between a genuine mistimed flick at the ball to a deliberate attempt to slap an arm or elbow in the hope it puts the player off. That's a foul all day long, but wasn't blown once in Limerick or Tullamore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
Not getting at you MR2 and I do agree with you.

But doesnt change the fact that if one player is chasing another and he is soloing the ball, a slap on the hand/ elbow is 2/3 feet from the ball and should be blown as a foul. Up here most of the time it is, down south its seems to be that you are allowed one half decent slap at the elbow.

Watch Tommy Walsh chasing someone down next game, he has the hurl in over the shoulder and the other hand dragging/ pulling/ slapping at the opponent and more times than not it is not even fouled. It's a different game that's for sure and that's not all down to the ref either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
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Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?

Yes?

Watch your next game and tell me how many red/yellow cards are handed out for this, so a missed time tackle/flick for the ball deserves a yello/red? The All Ireland Championships have a lot to answer for this, this is common in every game, count the amount of times it happens, and in the All Ireland club a lad was sent off for the same thing and a lot of posters thought it was slightly unfair, on reflection I thought it was the right decision but the referee only gets one look at it....

What was unfair about it was that we watch it go all summer, yet some club player does it and gets the line.
There's a difference between a genuine mistimed flick at the ball to a deliberate attempt to slap an arm or elbow in the hope it puts the player off. That's a foul all day long, but wasn't blown once in Limerick or Tullamore.

But the managers/players/supporters see it differently Johnney, if one of your players gets hit by a 'mistimed' flick/tackle they are shouting for red cards like Italian footballers FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2013, 04:34:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 11, 2013, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on June 11, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
As for Johnty, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!
Most teams have had there "hatchet men" allright but not so many now. It did sound to me like it would be a stupid thing for a parent of 2 good young hurlers to do cos I'm sure he'd not want the same to be done to his own.

Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
Sets the U21 final up nicely, but on last nights showing the Johnnies must be hot favourites.
I agree there that St Johns would be favourites now. I'd say the Town will be happy enough with that too cos it takes some of the pressure of them as holders.

Question would be for the Belfast brethren if the Town happen to win on Friday evening and beat the golden era of St John's under age talent, where do they go from there?
Cushendall won the minor 3 years ago though so the Johnnies double winning teams still have next year and the year after at u21.

MR2 wouldnt blow it anyway, or at worst a yellow for dangerous rough play  ;)

Was just playing devils advocate lads, they will be a serious force in a few years, but my own feeling is that they need to develop a few more forwards.

Fixed that for you


Would a slap in the hand/elbow be deliberate when the player has no chance of slapping the ball away from someone running with ball on stick?

Yes?

Watch your next game and tell me how many red/yellow cards are handed out for this, so a missed time tackle/flick for the ball deserves a yello/red? The All Ireland Championships have a lot to answer for this, this is common in every game, count the amount of times it happens, and in the All Ireland club a lad was sent off for the same thing and a lot of posters thought it was slightly unfair, on reflection I thought it was the right decision but the referee only gets one look at it....

What was unfair about it was that we watch it go all summer, yet some club player does it and gets the line.
There's a difference between a genuine mistimed flick at the ball to a deliberate attempt to slap an arm or elbow in the hope it puts the player off. That's a foul all day long, but wasn't blown once in Limerick or Tullamore.

But the managers/players/supporters see it differently Johnney, if one of your players gets hit by a 'mistimed' flick/tackle they are shouting for red cards like Italian footballers FFS

Sure they'll shout and if you're soft enough to give it, then they're vindicated in their shouting and before long you'll get the name of a home town referee who can be swayed by a bit of shouting and hey presto, every dogs c**k is shouting at you for the slightest of things.

If there's a genuine attempt to play the ball and even if its mistimed I'd certainly award the free, its the hoors who scelp the arms and hands with no intention of playing at a ball I'd card.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2013, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
Not getting at you MR2 and I do agree with you.

But doesnt change the fact that if one player is chasing another and he is soloing the ball, a slap on the hand/ elbow is 2/3 feet from the ball and should be blown as a foul. Up here most of the time it is, down south its seems to be that you are allowed one half decent slap at the elbow.

Watch Tommy Walsh chasing someone down next game, he has the hurl in over the shoulder and the other hand dragging/ pulling/ slapping at the opponent and more times than not it is not even fouled. It's a different game that's for sure and that's not all down to the ref either.

Yeah I agree that it's deserving of a card but my point is this, is it deliberate? Or is it rough play? If it's deliberate then it's a red card if its rough play or deemed as a mistimed tackle flick it's a yellow. Referees all over need to apply the same rule all of the time in all divisions. We played a game last night in Southy Antrim hurling, one of our players took a slap in my view deliberate and didn't get a foul or was the player booked. Consistency......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
I've said before I think our main problems with refs is that they referee the match & the players - rather than the rules.

I mean, they try to affect the game themselves and blow frees depending on perceived reputations of players.
The get their own impressio from the game and then ref it accordingly.

If they'd just stick to the rule book (apply it consistently) then the rest can look after itself.

Not all refs - but certainly I think this is an issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 12, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.


I'd love to believe that statement, but that's just balls and whoever said it isn't living in the real world.

I've had the pleasure of Barry Kelly the odd time and granted it was probably at the early days of his intercounty career, but he's relaxed a good bit on some stuff when he moved up the ranks and to be fair to him, he's one of the better referees around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 12, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.


I'd love to believe that statement, but that's just balls and whoever said it isn't living in the real world.

I've had the pleasure of Barry Kelly the odd time and granted it was probably at the early days of his intercounty career, but he's relaxed a good bit on some stuff when he moved up the ranks and to be fair to him, he's one of the better referees around.

I'd love to believe it also but they had these Al Ireland referees saying these things, they seemed genuine and honest, what can I say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
I've said before I think our main problems with refs is that they referee the match & the players - rather than the rules.

I mean, they try to affect the game themselves and blow frees depending on perceived reputations of players.
The get their own impressio from the game and then ref it accordingly.

If they'd just stick to the rule book (apply it consistently) then the rest can look after itself.

Not all refs - but certainly I think this is an issue.

I ask myself the question continually when you post, did this lad ever play the game, some of your postings and responses really are pure S***! and reflect your real lack of knowledge which is only gained by playing and I suspect that wasnt your strong point!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 12, 2013, 10:30:57 PM
Disappointing couple of results recently by our lads. Wasn't too despondent after cushendall match. They were better team but we always had a threat up front. Although at times our style of play was frustrating and hard to figure out. Sunday night v johnnies was just crap. Very flat performance and we got what we deserved.....sweet f.a. However I must add that mr Johnstons behaviour in the hill with us was unreal. Man is a lunatic.

Massive game on Friday night for us. U21 final v johnnies with both squads littered with senior players. The johnnies will have edge at minute gong by Sunday night. I really hope wee mickey can get our lads going for Friday night. We need to win this one. It will be big test for both camps but I'm hoping our big players like Matthew, stoogie and Clarkey are going to deliver.

On a side note. Choice of Ballymena as venue for county final is hard to work out. For county bard coffers a Friday night in Dunloy or loughiel would bring in a bigger gate.


Anyway up the Town.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2013, 11:15:08 PM
Feis cup semi. Cushendall 1-17 dunloy 1-10.
Easily the worst game I've seen us play in 2 years. God help anyone who paid in. Should get their cash back!
We were terrible and how we only lost by 7 was luck! That said cdall didn't score in the last 15mins.
That was our 7th game in 17 days. Don't think anyone else has had that many games.
A week off. Thank god! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: Leyland on June 12, 2013, 10:30:57 PM
Disappointing couple of results recently by our lads. Wasn't too despondent after cushendall match. They were better team but we always had a threat up front. Although at times our style of play was frustrating and hard to figure out. Sunday night v johnnies was just crap. Very flat performance and we got what we deserved.....sweet f.a. However I must add that mr Johnstons behaviour in the hill with us was unreal. Man is a lunatic.

Massive game on Friday night for us. U21 final v johnnies with both squads littered with senior players. The johnnies will have edge at minute gong by Sunday night. I really hope wee mickey can get our lads going for Friday night. We need to win this one. It will be big test for both camps but I'm hoping our big players like Matthew, stoogie and Clarkey are going to deliver.

On a side note. Choice of Ballymena as venue for county final is hard to work out. For county bard coffers a Friday night in Dunloy or loughiel would bring in a bigger gate.


Anyway up the Town.........

I think Ballycastle will win this game, seen them up against Dunloy in their first game and was very impressed, the Johnnies are good but I think at this level the Town will win through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 13, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
The u21 final on Friday night is too close to call, I'll go for St john's after extra time or replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2013, 08:04:17 AM
I'm the same. From what I've seen of St. John's and ballycastle at u21 this season I give st johns the slight edge in this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 13, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
The fact that there is no mention of a county championship final on our county website the day before the game says it all for me. As a county we (I don't believe in blaming county board etc , we're all in this together) continually put all our eggs in one basket and our primary aim every year is our county hurling team. Until we have our club game and underage structures fully operational our county hurling teams will continue to struggle, its a case of putting the cart before the horse.

An example which really angered me was the cancellation of the U21 semi final as a request of the county manager. 50/60 young lads ready to go for a massive game and then its called off for the sake of 3 or 4. Why can we not see that counties like kilkenny/Tipp etc put their club game first and foremeost, success at county level will then follow. Why do we think we have better ideas than the likes of KK and Tipp?

League games: Another rant from me. Little hurling in May, few games in July, nothing in August and just after playing 4 games in 12 days in June. Championship in September. Absolute crazy schedule. Again all to suit the county team at the detriment of the club game which supports it.

I wish I had solutions to these problems but I think that until we put our club game as number one priority, we as a county are going nowhere :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
How come LG had no game at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 13, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
The fact that there is no mention of a county championship final on our county website the day before the game says it all for me. As a county we (I don't believe in blaming county board etc , we're all in this together) continually put all our eggs in one basket and our primary aim every year is our county hurling team. Until we have our club game and underage structures fully operational our county hurling teams will continue to struggle, its a case of putting the cart before the horse.

An example which really angered me was the cancellation of the U21 semi final as a request of the county manager. 50/60 young lads ready to go for a massive game and then its called off for the sake of 3 or 4. Why can we not see that counties like kilkenny/Tipp etc put their club game first and foremeost, success at county level will then follow. Why do we think we have better ideas than the likes of KK and Tipp?

League games: Another rant from me. Little hurling in May, few games in July, nothing in August and just after playing 4 games in 12 days in June. Championship in September. Absolute crazy schedule. Again all to suit the county team at the detriment of the club game which supports it.I wish I had solutions to these problems but I think that until we put our club game as number one priority, we as a county are going nowhere :(

+1

So accurate it may as well be a biblical quote!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 13, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 13, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
The fact that there is no mention of a county championship final on our county website the day before the game says it all for me. As a county we (I don't believe in blaming county board etc , we're all in this together) continually put all our eggs in one basket and our primary aim every year is our county hurling team. Until we have our club game and underage structures fully operational our county hurling teams will continue to struggle, its a case of putting the cart before the horse.

An example which really angered me was the cancellation of the U21 semi final as a request of the county manager. 50/60 young lads ready to go for a massive game and then its called off for the sake of 3 or 4. Why can we not see that counties like kilkenny/Tipp etc put their club game first and foremeost, success at county level will then follow. Why do we think we have better ideas than the likes of KK and Tipp?

League games: Another rant from me. Little hurling in May, few games in July, nothing in August and just after playing 4 games in 12 days in June. Championship in September. Absolute crazy schedule. Again all to suit the county team at the detriment of the club game which supports it.

I wish I had solutions to these problems but I think that until we put our club game as number one priority, we as a county are going nowhere :(


Lucky you. I know div 4 won't change the standard of county hurling but our league is over. If you take away the 6 week gap between the two blasts of fixtures our league was run out over 5weeks (2 1/2 weeks at start of April and 2 1/2 weeks at end of may/start of June. We like everyone else pay our dues etc and love our hurling as much as the next guy but are treated with complete contempt. I think it was a case of getting the fixtures out of the way, one less league to worry about ( by worry I mean provide referees etc)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 10:17:40 AM
Gizzy ...what about organising a few tournaments with the other Div 4 clubs to bulk out the season?

We've a county administration thats alien in alot of ways to grass roots, so no point in being "totally reliant" on them to tell you when to hurl if there's massive gaps in your fixtures calendar

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2013, 10:21:51 AM
Our hurlers have just completed 7 games in 17 days. That's just mental. Oh and we have 2 more games away from home next week to boot! Great having games but within reason! We have played a lot of games without shorty and woody this season and had no county players again last night. Cdall played theirs (that was their decision ) but we have continued games without them.

Personally we will play games without the county lads and have no probs in doin so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
Skull sent you pm's there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 10:29:48 AM
Cheers MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 13, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 13, 2013, 10:17:40 AM
Gizzy ...what about organising a few tournaments with the other Div 4 clubs to bulk out the season?

We've a county administration thats alien in alot of ways to grass roots, so no point in being "totally reliant" on them to tell you when to hurl if there's massive gaps in your fixtures calendar

Not a bad idea, need to do something as the current setup will only discourage as if we were to lose the first round of c'ship we would end up with 46 free weeks in our club hurling Callander.

Will take your idea on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 13, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
Dunloy Realist, are both Woody and Shorty not injured and this is the reason they didn't play last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.

I'm really struggling with this one. A referee will blow for a foul that he sees. You may think it's a foul and it may even be a foul but unless the referee clearly sees it in real time then that's all he can use. Now sometimes in an attacking position the referee may allow for a player to take extra steps if he's being held back/grabbed he may even allow a foul on a player who's been dumped after off loading the ball to a player in an attacking position to see if it generates a score, the referee can do two things, if he feels after a couple of seconds there is no advantage, call it back (called the slow whistle) and book the player if necessary, and the other is to let play go on. Either way you will get flack form players and managers and whatever rabble is on the line watching. Two many steps referee, ya didn't play advantage referee, ya not going to book him??? Always followed by, you're f**king useless referee.

If teams went out and tried to play hurling/football without fouling then the referee wouldn't be talked about. Referee's don't loose games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 13, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.

I'm really struggling with this one. A referee will blow for a foul that he sees. You may think it's a foul and it may even be a foul but unless the referee clearly sees it in real time then that's all he can use. Now sometimes in an attacking position the referee may allow for a player to take extra steps if he's being held back/grabbed he may even allow a foul on a player who's been dumped after off loading the ball to a player in an attacking position to see if it generates a score, the referee can do two things, if he feels after a couple of seconds there is no advantage, call it back (called the slow whistle) and book the player if necessary, and the other is to let play go on. Either way you will get flack form players and managers and whatever rabble is on the line watching. Two many steps referee, ya didn't play advantage referee, ya not going to book him??? Always followed by, you're f**king useless referee.

If teams went out and tried to play hurling/football without fouling then the referee wouldn't be talked about. Referee's don't loose games

I don't think you should drag yourself into justifying yourself here MR, the ref is and always will be in a no win situation as a decision will always go against someone. Interpretation is the big issue and as refs are only human they will have different interpretations also depending on their view of events etc. I think this will not be solved on here and should be given a bit of a break as it will only go around in circles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.

I'm really struggling with this one. A referee will blow for a foul that he sees. You may think it's a foul and it may even be a foul but unless the referee clearly sees it in real time then that's all he can use. Now sometimes in an attacking position the referee may allow for a player to take extra steps if he's being held back/grabbed he may even allow a foul on a player who's been dumped after off loading the ball to a player in an attacking position to see if it generates a score, the referee can do two things, if he feels after a couple of seconds there is no advantage, call it back (called the slow whistle) and book the player if necessary, and the other is to let play go on. Either way you will get flack form players and managers and whatever rabble is on the line watching. Two many steps referee, ya didn't play advantage referee, ya not going to book him??? Always followed by, you're f**king useless referee.

If teams went out and tried to play hurling/football without fouling then the referee wouldn't be talked about. Referee's don't loose games

Think this is were the communication comes in MR2, I know the refs have to appear confident in their decisions even if they are only 80% sure they got it right. However there is a fine line between this confidence and it being misinterpreted as arrogance. Communication is the key having a quiet word with some of the players around these situations to explain, 'yes I saw it - played advantage - didnt work out - so pulled it back'

Having the players onside and showing that the ref wants the game to flow and trying to communicate that would go a long way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 13, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.

I'm really struggling with this one. A referee will blow for a foul that he sees. You may think it's a foul and it may even be a foul but unless the referee clearly sees it in real time then that's all he can use. Now sometimes in an attacking position the referee may allow for a player to take extra steps if he's being held back/grabbed he may even allow a foul on a player who's been dumped after off loading the ball to a player in an attacking position to see if it generates a score, the referee can do two things, if he feels after a couple of seconds there is no advantage, call it back (called the slow whistle) and book the player if necessary, and the other is to let play go on. Either way you will get flack form players and managers and whatever rabble is on the line watching. Two many steps referee, ya didn't play advantage referee, ya not going to book him??? Always followed by, you're f**king useless referee.

If teams went out and tried to play hurling/football without fouling then the referee wouldn't be talked about. Referee's don't loose games

I don't think you should drag yourself into justifying yourself here MR, the ref is and always will be in a no win situation as a decision will always go against someone. Interpretation is the big issue and as refs are only human they will have different interpretations also depending on their view of events etc. I think this will not be solved on here and should be given a bit of a break as it will only go around in circles.

Very true, I'm coming at this from being a player, manager and now referee, I've had run ins with the referees over the years as a player and manager, but I never blamed him for us not winning a match

Yes NAG1 some referees do that, but when your being called a wee cnut under their breath how best would you react to that? or the manager is jumping about and squealing like a header there is nothing quiet about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 11:19:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 13, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 13, 2013, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 08:23:34 AM
As you can see MR2 you cant win! However your example quoted is IMO a poor one, your highlighting a local south Antrim referee who maybe doing it for the crac, or his club needed to put a name forward to facilitate county requirements, or hes doing it for the readies! Then drawing parallels to National Referees who have more experience across the board at a higher skill level! The question begs as always wether your a county or national referee when is a foul not a foul? This purely comes down to interpretation of the referee who has 2 secs to make up his mind, as i am sure you can see from the championship already the national guys in the majority are blowing for frees that in the past they would have let go in the interest of TV and crowd, and looking at media reaction its not going down well!!! The problem with Ulster Referees is that most of the time they have been blowing for these frees and the southern lads have not, thus the age old comment, " ah ref did you watch such and such game FFS let it go!" Its all about attitude and what they are prepared to accept ;)

The same referee is also doing div 1 down to div 4 and is an ex senior hurler for his club which was a div 1 club when he played so that first point is wrong for starters.

I'm not trying to win, just call it as I see it, it won't make me friends nor will I keep everyone happy. National referees (and I was at the seminar in Croke) stated that they blow for the same fouls at juvenile level in their own county as they would at National level.

Players are really daft I've just found that out, they first off think that you have eyes in the back of your head, they also think that you are cheating them over some other club, they also think cause they give you water, crack a joke or hand you a match ball beforehand that you may favour them!! While at the same time during their team talk, the referee is a w**ker he'll give ya fcuk all he hates this club (the latter would be right, though I hate all clubs) Oh the best is he's from a football club he knows fcuk all. They also believe that by shouting at the referee that he'll in some way give them soft frees lol. I could go on.

I must be mental cause I actually enjoy refereeing (to a point) you get to see some decent games keeps you fit and you put a bit back into the game, as for the readies as you put it it's not a while lot and just about covers your fuel, you won't become rich with it.

btdtgtt, you can only referee it to the rules, you can't make rules up and I'd like to see how well the players would do if they were set a test on the rules, christ I'd like to see the managers do a test on the rules. For some reason and I've heard this before players/managers seem to think that a referee gets off on being the man in the middle and makes decisions, I'd like nothing more than to blow the whistle at the start, halftime and fulltime. It's the players that make mistakes throughout the game that ruin it, If they stop making mistakes we'd have no problems

Refs cant make them up - but they can interpret fouls whichever way the please.
To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

For example - how many times to we see southern refs allow southern teams to be physical against Antrim - becasue the "know what they're doing"
Meanwhile Antrim are blown time again becasue the impression is that they are "careless".

The same thing happens within Antrim.
Refs make their mind up on which team is playing the best hurling - and interpret what is a foul and what is physical to suit that assupmtion.

It might not sound pelasant - but it happens. And all too often.

I'm really struggling with this one. A referee will blow for a foul that he sees. You may think it's a foul and it may even be a foul but unless the referee clearly sees it in real time then that's all he can use. Now sometimes in an attacking position the referee may allow for a player to take extra steps if he's being held back/grabbed he may even allow a foul on a player who's been dumped after off loading the ball to a player in an attacking position to see if it generates a score, the referee can do two things, if he feels after a couple of seconds there is no advantage, call it back (called the slow whistle) and book the player if necessary, and the other is to let play go on. Either way you will get flack form players and managers and whatever rabble is on the line watching. Two many steps referee, ya didn't play advantage referee, ya not going to book him??? Always followed by, you're f**king useless referee.

If teams went out and tried to play hurling/football without fouling then the referee wouldn't be talked about. Referee's don't loose games

I don't think you should drag yourself into justifying yourself here MR, the ref is and always will be in a no win situation as a decision will always go against someone. Interpretation is the big issue and as refs are only human they will have different interpretations also depending on their view of events etc. I think this will not be solved on here and should be given a bit of a break as it will only go around in circles.

Very true, I'm coming at this from being a player, manager and now referee, I've had run ins with the referees over the years as a player and manager, but I never blamed him for us not winning a match

Yes NAG1 some referees do that, but when your being called a wee cnut under their breath how best would you react to that? or the manager is jumping about and squealing like a header there is nothing quiet about it

MR2 I'm not saying it is easy at all, it definitely is not.

But personally I would look for some of the older heads on the two teams when these controversial incidents happen and literally a couple of quick words with them might help. Not saying it will always work but in my experience if you come down to the more human level and just say look we are all here to have a game lets try and keep a lid on it, then it might bring more success i dont know, just my opinion.

As for the manager looking around the county most are a lost cause, but particularly annoys me when I see managers and seems to happen a lot around injury breaks, where certain ones enter the field of play and try to sleaze the ref and influence them. This is where I think refs can get themselves into trouble as the other teams perceive this to be a pallyness thing between the two and during a game it is all about perceptions.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 11:57:30 AM
Yeah they come on and say this and that and hand you a water bottle and whatever, but the reality is that a referee (a decent one) doesn't care if he comes on or not, in one hand you're looking to have good communication and not be arrogant then the next thing it's more or less tell the manager to get off the pitch!!

There is that much going on that you really can't see everything, naturally you follow the ball and if something happens you're beat. I'd a lad that said his defender was hanging all over him last night, I thought it was going on but never seen it, had a chance to catch it and blew for a foul on the 21 when the ball was played in. Good when you see it but when following the ball it's hard to catch. I think the referee needs to be reasonably fit it really is tough to keep up to play and I'd say I've a pretty good fitness level. If I make a mistake then it happens, like a player would feel, I wouldn't be happy with it.

What's becoming my biggest pet hate lately is this, he'll give you nothing, from managers!! What is it I'm meant to give??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
MR2,
when you're at these refereeing courses do they teach or recommend lines of running to improve viewing angles etc, etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
MR2,
when you're at these refereeing courses do they teach or recommend lines of running to improve viewing angles etc, etc?

Yeah the figure 8 has been mentioned a lot, getting the top end through the middle bottom and and back over again. Hard to do and still stay close enough to call, hurling is mental fast at the top end of the league, the other week I was all over the place, lads were fielding the ball and lashing it 60 yards down the pitch for it to be caught and last diagonally the other direction!!

A player usually stays in a 30 metre quadrant, a referee.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 11:57:30 AM
Yeah they come on and say this and that and hand you a water bottle and whatever, but the reality is that a referee (a decent one) doesn't care if he comes on or not, in one hand you're looking to have good communication and not be arrogant then the next thing it's more or less tell the manager to get off the pitch!!

There is that much going on that you really can't see everything, naturally you follow the ball and if something happens you're beat. I'd a lad that said his defender was hanging all over him last night, I thought it was going on but never seen it, had a chance to catch it and blew for a foul on the 21 when the ball was played in. Good when you see it but when following the ball it's hard to catch. I think the referee needs to be reasonably fit it really is tough to keep up to play and I'd say I've a pretty good fitness level. If I make a mistake then it happens, like a player would feel, I wouldn't be happy with it.

What's becoming my biggest pet hate lately is this, he'll give you nothing, from managers!! What is it I'm meant to give??

Even if he has a casual arm draped round your shoulder  ;)

I agree you dont want to set that tone, I am just pointing out that perceptions right or wrong can be difficult to manage.

Managers are always looking out for their own interests.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 11:57:30 AM
Yeah they come on and say this and that and hand you a water bottle and whatever, but the reality is that a referee (a decent one) doesn't care if he comes on or not, in one hand you're looking to have good communication and not be arrogant then the next thing it's more or less tell the manager to get off the pitch!!

There is that much going on that you really can't see everything, naturally you follow the ball and if something happens you're beat. I'd a lad that said his defender was hanging all over him last night, I thought it was going on but never seen it, had a chance to catch it and blew for a foul on the 21 when the ball was played in. Good when you see it but when following the ball it's hard to catch. I think the referee needs to be reasonably fit it really is tough to keep up to play and I'd say I've a pretty good fitness level. If I make a mistake then it happens, like a player would feel, I wouldn't be happy with it.

What's becoming my biggest pet hate lately is this, he'll give you nothing, from managers!! What is it I'm meant to give??

Even if he has a casual arm draped round your shoulder  ;)

I agree you dont want to set that tone, I am just pointing out that perceptions right or wrong can be difficult to manage.

Managers are always looking out for their own interests.

I've been doing this a few years and have yet to get any brown evelopes in the referees room, the managers are using the wrong tactics COMPLETELY
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
MR2,
when you're at these refereeing courses do they teach or recommend lines of running to improve viewing angles etc, etc?

Yeah the figure 8 has been mentioned a lot, getting the top end through the middle bottom and and back over again. Hard to do and still stay close enough to call, hurling is mental fast at the top end of the league, the other week I was all over the place, lads were fielding the ball and lashing it 60 yards down the pitch for it to be caught and last diagonally the other direction!!

A player usually stays in a 30 metre quadrant, a referee.......

........stays between the two 65's

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2013, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 13, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
Dunloy Realist, are both Woody and Shorty not injured and this is the reason they didn't play last night?
shorty is injured and wouldn't have played regardless a he would went to the county. Woody was taken off as a precaution on Sunday past against Rossa but he went to the county training anyway to watch it.

I know cdall wanted the game off last night maybe due to being weakend with the county boys at training. I can understand that as they are 4 of your main players.

That said without them we prob would list anyway! Lol

Shorty has played 5-7 games in all competitions for our club this season and he's IMO one of the best players in the county at the min. We have had to do without him through county commitments and have still played all our games without cancelling one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2013, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 13, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
MR2,
when you're at these refereeing courses do they teach or recommend lines of running to improve viewing angles etc, etc?

Yeah the figure 8 has been mentioned a lot, getting the top end through the middle bottom and and back over again. Hard to do and still stay close enough to call, hurling is mental fast at the top end of the league, the other week I was all over the place, lads were fielding the ball and lashing it 60 yards down the pitch for it to be caught and last diagonally the other direction!!

A player usually stays in a 30 metre quadrant, a referee.......

........stays between the two 65's

:D :D :D :D

Even better when the pitch only has a centreline  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on June 13, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
How come LG had no game at the weekend?
Supposed to play portaferry but game called off due to down's involvement in christy ring. Supposed to play ballycastle on tuesday but it was off due to u21 final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Or until you paid your public liability insurance lol

Bit of a hash that one but I hear its all sorted now. Did get a laugh at it tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 14, 2013, 08:46:44 AM
Best of luck to our u21's tonight vs St. Johns. Should be two evenly matched teams and hopefully it will be a cracking game.

Championships are not easy won and they are even harder to retain. Loughgiel were the last team to retain the u21 title, in fact they won at least 4 in a row in the early 2000's. Before that I can only remember Dunloy retaining it in the 80's when the competition was in its infancy.

Wouldn't read anything in to last Sunday's league game, for one it wasn't championship and two the u21 players on both teams im sure weren't going at full pelt.

One last thing I hope we are talking about the game and the players performance tomorrow and not the antics of a member of the St Johns management team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 14, 2013, 09:09:50 AM
Fancy Ballycastle to win tonight.

We hadn't the strongest U21 side this year and were still within touching distance of St Johns in the last few minutes.  Balycastle have a lot more fire power up front and I see them winning with 5 points or more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on June 14, 2013, 10:29:14 AM
Good luck to our boys tonight, crackin bunch of talented hurlers - can't wait for 7.30pm!

Up the black n amber!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 14, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Or until you paid your public liability insurance lol

Bit of a hash that one but I hear its all sorted now. Did get a laugh at it tho.
Aye. Croke Pk are very quick to come down on clubs but can't get their own house in order. Agh well, all fully paid up now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 14, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Or until you paid your public liability insurance lol

Bit of a hash that one but I hear its all sorted now. Did get a laugh at it tho.
Aye. Croke Pk are very quick to come down on clubs but can't get their own house in order. Agh well, all fully paid up now.
Poor Jackie was getting the blame for it for a while but I heard it was a mess between croke park and and the powers that be.

Still I did get a laugh texting a few lgiel mates asking we're they renaming the club to newco ga&cc lol

On another note, are the league games on Wednesday night going to be played with Antrim playing on the Saturday evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 11:13:10 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 14, 2013, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 14, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Or until you paid your public liability insurance lol

Bit of a hash that one but I hear its all sorted now. Did get a laugh at it tho.
Aye. Croke Pk are very quick to come down on clubs but can't get their own house in order. Agh well, all fully paid up now.
Poor Jackie was getting the blame for it for a while but I heard it was a mess between croke park and and the powers that be.

Still I did get a laugh texting a few lgiel mates asking we're they renaming the club to newco ga&cc lol

On another note, are the league games on Wednesday night going to be played with Antrim playing on the Saturday evening?

Aye right enough, I was looking to tog out for the seniors this Wednesday night  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 14, 2013, 08:46:44 AM
Best of luck to our u21's tonight vs St. Johns. Should be two evenly matched teams and hopefully it will be a cracking game.

Championships are not easy won and they are even harder to retain. Loughgiel were the last team to retain the u21 title, in fact they won at least 4 in a row in the early 2000's. Before that I can only remember Dunloy retaining it in the 80's when the competition was in its infancy.

Wouldn't read anything in to last Sunday's league game, for one it wasn't championship and two the u21 players on both teams im sure weren't going at full pelt.

One last thing I hope we are talking about the game and the players performance tomorrow and not the antics of a member of the St Johns management team.
Think we won it about 6 years in a row in the late 80's early 90's.

I rem us last retaining it in 99 (I played that one) and maybe 00 against St. Paul's over in lgiel?  Cdall won it the following year against us? Maybe I'm wrong on that one.

Is there any list of the winners of the competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 14, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
Cushendall won it in 1999, I have the medal on the mantle piece ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
wikipedia
2012   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-11   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-07
2011   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-14
2010   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-09   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-11
2009   Cuchullians, Dunloy 3-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 1-13
2008   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2007   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-16   Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-16
2006   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2005   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2004   O'Donovan Rossa   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2003   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2002   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
2001   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
2000   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Cushendun
1999   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Cuchullians, Dunloy
1998   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1997   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1996   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1995   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1994   Cuchullians, Dunloy   St. John's
1993   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1992   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1991   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   St. John's
1990   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1989   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St. John's
1988   O'Donovan Rossa   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1987   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   O'Donovan Rossa
1986   McQuillans, Ballycastle   St. John's
1985   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1984   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1983   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1982   Loughgiel Shamrocks   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1981   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1980   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 14, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
Cushendall won it in 1999, I have the medal on the mantle piece ;)
your right. The 98 final was delayed and wasn't played till early 99. Age is getting to me lol! I played in the 2 previous finals as well both v lgiel and lost both. 98 was against lgiel again and we won it.

Was that cdalls first u21 win that year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 14, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 14, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 14, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
Cushendall won it in 1999, I have the medal on the mantle piece ;)
your right. The 98 final was delayed and wasn't played till early 99. Age is getting to me lol! I played in the 2 previous finals as well both v lgiel and lost both. 98 was against lgiel again and we won it.

Was that cdalls first u21 win that year?
It's only win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 14, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
Aye first and only, I remind some of our star men of that any time they get above their station!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
Was that the final Sean Delargy scored something like a hat trick in or am I thinking of some other game?

One u21 from cushendall after all the minor wins isn't much. WOuld have expected a lot more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2013, 04:31:14 PM
I Can't find that list anywhere on Wikipedia.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 14, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
wikipedia
2012   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-11   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-07
2011   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-14
2010   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-09   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-11
2009   Cuchullians, Dunloy 3-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 1-13
2008   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2007   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-16   Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-16
2006   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2005   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2004   O'Donovan Rossa   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2003   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2002   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
2001   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
2000   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Cushendun
1999   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Cuchullians, Dunloy
1998   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1997   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1996   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1995   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1994   Cuchullians, Dunloy   St. John's
1993   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1992   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1991   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   St. John's
1990   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1989   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St. John's
1988   O'Donovan Rossa   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1987   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   O'Donovan Rossa
1986   McQuillans, Ballycastle   St. John's
1985   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1984   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1983   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1982   Loughgiel Shamrocks   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1981   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1980   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall

Dunloy definitely beat St Pauls in a final one year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 14, 2013, 04:42:47 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
wikipedia
2012   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-11   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-07
2011   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-14
2010   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-09   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-11
2009   Cuchullians, Dunloy 3-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 1-13
2008   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2007   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-16   Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-16
2006   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2005   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2004   O'Donovan Rossa   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2003   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2002   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
2001   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
2000   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Cushendun
1999   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Cuchullians, Dunloy
1998   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1997   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1996   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1995   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1994   Cuchullians, Dunloy   St. John's
1993   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1992   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1991   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   St. John's
1990   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1989   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St. John's
1988   O'Donovan Rossa   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1987   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   O'Donovan Rossa
1986   McQuillans, Ballycastle   St. John's
1985   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1984   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1983   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1982   Loughgiel Shamrocks   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1981   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1980   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall

This is the senior championship list not u21.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
Just left the u21 final in injury time. At johns 1-15 ballycastle 1-10.
Johnnies better team in the 2nd half.
Horrible nigjt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 09:15:32 PM
Fair play to the Whiterock men. Decent win and who knows what the future may bring...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 14, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 09:15:32 PM
Fair play to the Whiterock men. Decent win and who knows what the future may bring...
A transfer to Rossa??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 14, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
i hope the future brings a senior championship for its what Antrim need, a strong Belfast

one thing I was surprised about was the choice of referee.  It is alright now the Johnnies have won but would they be happy if they got beat and knew the game was refereed by an ex Ballycastle hurler.  Ref did have a good game , terrible conditions but st johns wanted it more and had the better hurlers.  Clarke and Saul never got going

thought the Johnsons were v good and the st Johns number 7 turned a lot of ball

big Donnelly should have got taken off for he was clearly injured and rendered useless, give the subs a chance

also for such a night a good crowd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 14, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
i hope the future brings a senior championship for its what Antrim need, a strong Belfast

one thing I was surprised about was the choice of referee.  It is alright now the Johnnies have won but would they be happy if they got beat and knew the game was refereed by an ex Ballycastle hurler.  Ref did have a good game , terrible conditions but st johns wanted it more and had the better hurlers.  Clarke and Saul never got going

thought the Johnsons were v good and the st Johns number 7 turned a lot of ball

big Donnelly should have got taken off for he was clearly injured and rendered useless, give the subs a chance

also for such a night a good crowd

Mark is a decent lad and I would have no worries as to the way he would referee a game, a Armoy man, so unsure of the Ballycastle link, and the reasons he would have left. I'm glad to see a Belfast team win, I'm not a Johnnies fan being from Naomh Gall would be a hint. They might even win another one as team is young enough, when was the last Belfast team to win an under 21? we got to a final, beat by Loughgiel and lost one due to some dispute and the final wasn't even played (I think)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2013, 10:39:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 14, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
i hope the future brings a senior championship for its what Antrim need, a strong Belfast

one thing I was surprised about was the choice of referee.  It is alright now the Johnnies have won but would they be happy if they got beat and knew the game was refereed by an ex Ballycastle hurler.  Ref did have a good game , terrible conditions but st johns wanted it more and had the better hurlers.  Clarke and Saul never got going

thought the Johnsons were v good and the st Johns number 7 turned a lot of ball

big Donnelly should have got taken off for he was clearly injured and rendered useless, give the subs a chance

also for such a night a good crowd

Mark is a decent lad and I would have no worries as to the way he would referee a game, a Armoy man, so unsure of the Ballycastle link, and the reasons he would have left. I'm glad to see a Belfast team win, I'm not a Johnnies fan being from Naomh Gall would be a hint. They might even win another one as team is young enough, when was the last Belfast team to win an under 21? we got to a final, beat by Loughgiel and lost one due to some dispute and the final wasn't even played (I think)
Mark O'Neill? Sure he's from the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
That may be the case, but he's affiliated with Armoy, plenty of players in Belfast have transferred to other clubs. would they look after their old clubs? This is a final with the county chairman down no doubt, helping out an old club wouldn't be high on his agenda I'd imagine, but sure lets make a story out of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 14, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
Mark is a good lad yes.  Also up and coming but let's be honest it is not ideal to have ex players refereeing their old club.  Clearly neutral would be better.  Mark is With armoy now but used to hurl corner back for the town.  I'm sure there is plenty others who could have done it and mark would get some other big game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
That may be the case, but he's affiliated with Armoy, plenty of players in Belfast have transferred to other clubs. would they look after their old clubs? This is a final with the county chairman down no doubt, helping out an old club wouldn't be high on his agenda I'd imagine, but sure lets make a story out of it
No big deal now and I'm sure he never had any intention to turn the Johnnies over but had the Johnnies been beaten and there was the odd iffy decision here and there, there'd have been some crying. County left themselves open there. Odd decision for a final.

Can't remember if Dub ever reffed us in any finals.

He refereed yous in the league, but in his time you didn't get to many finals ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 15, 2013, 12:35:34 AM
Did he hurl seniors for the town?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2013, 12:41:31 AM
Its a fair point that's been fairly made has it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2013, 01:34:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 14, 2013, 09:55:43 PM
i hope the future brings a senior championship for its what Antrim need, a strong Belfast

one thing I was surprised about was the choice of referee.  It is alright now the Johnnies have won but would they be happy if they got beat and knew the game was refereed by an ex Ballycastle hurler.  Ref did have a good game , terrible conditions but st johns wanted it more and had the better hurlers.  Clarke and Saul never got going

thought the Johnsons were v good and the st Johns number 7 turned a lot of ball

big Donnelly should have got taken off for he was clearly injured and rendered useless, give the subs a chance

also for such a night a good crowd
he refed our game in the feis on Wednesday night. Did a decent job. Did a good job last night. Called it right from a neutral point of view.

Mark is a decent lad and I would have no worries as to the way he would referee a game, a Armoy man, so unsure of the Ballycastle link, and the reasons he would have left. I'm glad to see a Belfast team win, I'm not a Johnnies fan being from Naomh Gall would be a hint. They might even win another one as team is young enough, when was the last Belfast team to win an under 21? we got to a final, beat by Loughgiel and lost one due to some dispute and the final wasn't even played (I think)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 15, 2013, 02:44:58 AM
Quote from: Glensman on June 14, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
wikipedia
2012   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-11   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-07
2011   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-14
2010   Loughgiel Shamrocks 1-09   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 0-11
2009   Cuchullians, Dunloy 3-14   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall 1-13
2008   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2007   Cuchullians, Dunloy 1-16   Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-16
2006   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2005   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2004   O'Donovan Rossa   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2003   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Loughgiel Shamrocks
2002   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
2001   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
2000   Cuchullians, Dunloy   Cushendun
1999   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Cuchullians, Dunloy
1998   Cuchullians, Dunloy   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1997   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1996   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1995   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1994   Cuchullians, Dunloy   St. John's
1993   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1992   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1991   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   St. John's
1990   Cuchullians, Dunloy   O'Donovan Rossa
1989   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St. John's
1988   O'Donovan Rossa   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1987   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   O'Donovan Rossa
1986   McQuillans, Ballycastle   St. John's
1985   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1984   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall
1983   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Loughgiel Shamrocks
1982   Loughgiel Shamrocks   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1981   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall   McQuillans, Ballycastle
1980   McQuillans, Ballycastle   Ruairí Óg, Cushendall

Dunloy definitely beat St Pauls in a final one year.

Dunloy beat St Pauls in 2000, St Pauls beat C/Dall in semi the same nite Dunloy who ended with 14 men scrapped passed ODR, by 2 pts. that final was that nite as no matter who won the second semi, they would have been champs. think final was won by 21 pts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 15, 2013, 02:55:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 14, 2013, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
That may be the case, but he's affiliated with Armoy, plenty of players in Belfast have transferred to other clubs. would they look after their old clubs? This is a final with the county chairman down no doubt, helping out an old club wouldn't be high on his agenda I'd imagine, but sure lets make a story out of it
No big deal now and I'm sure he never had any intention to turn the Johnnies over but had the Johnnies been beaten and there was the odd iffy decision here and there, there'd have been some crying. County left themselves open there. Odd decision for a final.

Can't remember if Dub ever reffed us in any finals.

He didnt, but he is a loss to the county referee circuit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 15, 2013, 08:36:14 AM
Don't panic, Mark O' Neill isn't the only Ballycastle man who refs Ballycastle matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 15, 2013, 09:40:24 AM
Congratulations to St Johns. A well deserved win. They outplayed us all over the pitch. Our boys were very disapointing.
Just didn't seem to have any confidence . Big Matty was injured in the first half and was struggling at FB and the injury
got worse in the second half. Movving him to FF was crazy but maybe shows we had nothing on the bench.
As for Mark O'Neill he's not really from the Town sure his Da was a blow in :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 15, 2013, 10:24:50 AM
Jj think ur talking about antrims greatest ever referee. Thought he done a good job directing traffic the other nite.  In his head he is now the ultimate club man. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 15, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Some slabbers on here. Mark is a good lad and a fine ref. We've never had a problem with him. Or MR2 for that matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 15, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Some slabbers on here. Mark is a good lad and a fine ref. We've never had a problem with him. Or MR2 for that matter.

Who said he wasn't a good lad ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 15, 2013, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 15, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 15, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Some slabbers on here. Mark is a good lad and a fine ref. We've never had a problem with him. Or MR2 for that matter.

Who said he wasn't a good lad ?
why mention him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 15, 2013, 01:05:01 PM
Good win for St John's last night. That bit of extra hurling told in the end, as Ballycastle were very strong, but the skill and speed of St johns edged it out. Both number 7's were excellent. Last Belfast team to win it was Rossa in 2009 i think. HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 15, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
I've said before I think our main problems with refs is that they referee the match & the players - rather than the rules.

I mean, they try to affect the game themselves and blow frees depending on perceived reputations of players.
The get their own impressio from the game and then ref it accordingly.

If they'd just stick to the rule book (apply it consistently) then the rest can look after itself.

Not all refs - but certainly I think this is an issue.

I ask myself the question continually when you post, did this lad ever play the game, some of your postings and responses really are pure S***! and reflect your real lack of knowledge which is only gained by playing and I suspect that wasnt your strong point!!!!!!

Been away with work lately so just catching up on posts.
Not even entertaining this just to say that I pity anyone in any walk of life who can't consider an opinion or viewpoint aside from their own.
It's a character flaw. Maybe one day u will mature.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Did I see minder out running this morning down donegall road?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Did I see minder out running this morning down donegall road?

You did alright  8)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 15, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
Well don't St. John's.
Great to see a Belfast win - and I doubt that the town will let their talent waste without adding to senior level soon.
Did ray Mathews not return to the Rossa banner to ref hence he didnt do any senior games?
As for the "interpretation" debate MR2 etc I get ur point but think u conceded there is an element if ref's perception rather than decisions being black&white. That interpretation is what can give rise to poor perceptions of bias. However to finish the point - I suppose hurling is no different to any other sport in the world in this respect. I do note a growing trend (maybe physiology) not to dwell of ref decisions and this can only be a good thing for all involved.

Did I read something earlier about fixtures coming up that we're going to be changed due to county game? Could do with getting a few games in!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Minder you look in better shape now than in your playing days:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2013, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Minder you look in better shape now than in your playing days:)

I don't feel it well :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 15, 2013, 03:27:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 15, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Did I see minder out running this morning down donegall road?

You did alright  8)
Black hack back up the road?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 15, 2013, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Minder you look in better shape now than in your playing days:)

I don't feel it well :-)

We play Sarsfields on Monday night in Southy league, get yourself a game or 2 this year!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 15, 2013, 05:13:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 15, 2013, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 15, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on June 15, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Did I see minder out running this morning down donegall road?

You did alright  8)
KFC?

Bog meadow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on June 15, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 15, 2013, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on June 12, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
I've said before I think our main problems with refs is that they referee the match & the players - rather than the rules.

I mean, they try to affect the game themselves and blow frees depending on perceived reputations of players.
The get their own impressio from the game and then ref it accordingly.

If they'd just stick to the rule book (apply it consistently) then the rest can look after itself.

Not all refs - but certainly I think this is an issue.

I ask myself the question continually when you post, did this lad ever play the game, some of your postings and responses really are pure S***! and reflect your real lack of knowledge which is only gained by playing and I suspect that wasnt your strong point!!!!!!

Been away with work lately so just catching up on posts.
Not even entertaining this just to say that I pity anyone in any walk of life who can't consider an opinion or viewpoint aside from their own.
It's a character flaw. Maybe one day u will mature.

Could be? However there constantly seems to be this inherent need to fit in/belong in your posts btdtgtt! Its quite apparent your real lack of knowledge and emotion based on real life experience in the majority of what you say in relation to hurling!

Answer me this did you ever play?

Its just the constant need of your posts to harmonise, trying to find its place? its probably just me and my immaturity but it annoys the s**t out of me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 15, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
I've read that post a couple of times MIBAG and still have no idea what it means.

If I try to find a middle ground in debates it's because otherwise it would be an endless thread. That's what debate is - better than being unable to see another perspective.

Otherwise - yes I have played plenty and proud of it - both north & south.
Btdtgtt was expanded a while back!

And to be honest - I don't give a damn what bugs you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 15, 2013, 07:25:13 PM
Thought ex-Ballycastle hurler, Mark O'Neill did an excellent job last night. Refereed with a bit of common sense, when others would have been flashing cards left, right and centre. The usual argy-bargy stuff at the start was handled with a quiet word of warning. Some of the Johnnies supporters got a bit irate towards the end when one of their players got cut around the eye. The incident happened right in front of me at a 2 man ball and it was a broken stick (flying up) which caused the cut. St Johns were excellent and fully deserved their victory. Some fine talent on show and yes, it would be good to see the Johnnies and the Town win senior honours in the not too distant future. The more competition at senior level, the more successful the county senior team will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 15, 2013, 07:39:20 PM
Fair play to the Johnnies last night, they deserved the win. Evan enough first half but they really took control in the first 15 mins of the 2nd half. Their half back line turned everything and we couldn't get in ball to Ciaran Clarke or Saul. In contrast they managed to get Conor Johnston on the ball more and he caused a lot of bother.

Matthew Donnelly probably should have moved up front at ht or have been subbed, he was operating on 1 leg. It was gamble leaving him at full back and the goal for them came when he was still at fb. A couple of other players weren't 100% fit going in to the game but I guess thats the chances you take to win a championship. Well done to the team anyway as they battled away to the end but just came up against a better team on the night.

Obviously the 2 Johnston's are class acts for the Johnnies but they had a more than capable support around them. Numbers 3, 7, 11 and 12 shone at different times for me and if they keep that team together they should be a force at senior in a couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 15, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 15, 2013, 07:25:13 PM
Thought ex-Ballycastle hurler, Mark O'Neill did an excellent job last night. Refereed with a bit of common sense, when others would have been flashing cards left, right and centre. The usual argy-bargy stuff at the start was handled with a quiet word of warning. Some of the Johnnies supporters got a bit irate towards the end when one of their players got cut around the eye. The incident happened right in front of me at a 2 man ball and it was a broken stick (flying up) which caused the cut. St Johns were excellent and fully deserved their victory. Some fine talent on show and yes, it would be good to see the Johnnies and the Town win senior honours in the not too distant future. The more competition at senior level, the more successful the county senior team will be.

Yes would be great for Antrim to see either of these teams progressing from this level and contesting shc finals

I hope Donnelly recovers quickly has been having a decent year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 15, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
An also to see mark in the middle for a shc final. Though as long as glen rovers or the town are not involved.  Refreshing to see a referee who is respectful to everyone on the pitch and takes no nonsense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2013, 09:19:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 15, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
An also to see mark in the middle for a shc final. Though as long as glen rovers or the town are not involved.  Refreshing to see a referee who is respectful to everyone on the pitch and takes no nonsense

If he continues the way he's going I've no doubt he'll get one this year or next
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 16, 2013, 08:18:56 AM
Newstalk sport sat sun highlights. From the podcasts section has 30 min discussion following up Donal ogs proposal of an ulster hurling team.  Worth a listen. Sambo also on it.  Kieran Shannon makes a few excellent points.   Just to let u know its out there and worth a listen IMO.

There is a point in it that Belfast is too important to the gaa to be left in the hands of the Antrim county board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 16, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 16, 2013, 08:18:56 AM
Newstalk sport sat sun highlights. From the podcasts section has 30 min discussion following up Donal ogs proposal of an ulster hurling team.  Worth a listen. Sambo also on it.  Kieran Shannon makes a few excellent points.   Just to let u know its out there and worth a listen IMO.

There is a point in it that Belfast is too important to the gaa to be left in the hands of the Antrim county board

Here's the link

http://newstalk.ie/player/podcasts/Newstalk_Sport/Newstalk_Sport_SaturdaySunday_Highlights/24430/0/an_ulster_hurling_superteam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 16, 2013, 08:18:56 AM
Newstalk sport sat sun highlights. From the podcasts section has 30 min discussion following up Donal ogs proposal of an ulster hurling team.  Worth a listen. Sambo also on it.  Kieran Shannon makes a few excellent points.   Just to let u know its out there and worth a listen IMO.

There is a point in it that Belfast is too important to the gaa to be left in the hands of the Antrim county board

This alone is a point worth a listen!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 16, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
This is well worth a listen and an Ulster select may be worth a try, but there are a few other aspects which need to be addressed IMO

1. Improve hurling standards right across Ulster; we need stronger club and county teams in all of our 9 counties. The Liam McCarthy will never come to Ulster until standards rise throughout Ulster. Also, we need to be look more positively at other counties (in Ulster) and help them to improve, e.g. by accommodating more teams in the Antrim leagues, accommodating challenge matches etc.

2. Parochial attitudes need to change. Players need to realise that representing their county and winning the Liam McCarthy is the ultimate honour/achievement. Talk to KK, Cork, Tipp players; they know where their priorities lie.

3. Tackle the issue of poor relations between clubs/supporters, be that between North Antrim clubs, Belfast v North Antrim and even the Ards clubs and others clubs in Down (like Bredagh) trying to promote hurling. Sean McGuinness made excellent strides in this regard when he managed Antrim and Down. I think we've lost our way a bit since then and the negativity, between so called supporters, in both Antrim and Down is shocking at times. We need to unite behind our county banners - all for one and one for all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
I agree that club loyalties should be left at home when donning the county Jersey, but unfortunately, until it's addressed within the clubs themselves it'll never change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
On another note, laois is currently beating galway In the Leinster championship.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 16, 2013, 04:10:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 16, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
On another note, laois is currently beating galway In the Leinster championship.   :o

Laois 0-8 Galway 0-7 at half time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 16, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
2-13 to 1-12 with 5 mins to go to Galway. Great fight being put up by Laois. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 16, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
This is well worth a listen and an Ulster select may be worth a try, but there are a few other aspects which need to be addressed IMO

1. Improve hurling standards right across Ulster; we need stronger club and county teams in all of our 9 counties. The Liam McCarthy will never come to Ulster until standards rise throughout Ulster. Also, we need to be look more positively at other counties (in Ulster) and help them to improve, e.g. by accommodating more teams in the Antrim leagues, accommodating challenge matches etc.

2. Parochial attitudes need to change. Players need to realise that representing their county and winning the Liam McCarthy is the ultimate honour/achievement. Talk to KK, Cork, Tipp players; they know where their priorities lie.

3. Tackle the issue of poor relations between clubs/supporters, be that between North Antrim clubs, Belfast v North Antrim and even the Ards clubs and others clubs in Down (like Bredagh) trying to promote hurling. Sean McGuinness made excellent strides in this regard when he managed Antrim and Down. I think we've lost our way a bit since then and the negativity, between so called supporters, in both Antrim and Down is shocking at times. We need to unite behind our county banners - all for one and one for all.

In down maybe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on June 16, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
Not sure about an ulster team, but I do think ulster hurling people should unite into some sort of lobby group. At the minute I feel we are in a divide and conquer situation with people looking their own back gardens( club and county). Maybe something like a 'friends of ulster hurling' like Dublin had. This could look at things like leagues, schools, underage, dealing with ulster council and individual county boards etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 16, 2013, 05:54:07 PM
Good idea KT.

Returning briefly to Sean McGuinness. Many of the 1989 Antrim team credit Sean with doing the groundwork and addressing club rivalries which were preventing progress. Was it not Sean's Antrim team that scared the proverbials off a Cork All Ireland winning team in the early/mid 80's (in an AI SF, I think). Thereafter, we were taken seriously for a time, through 1989, until our scores got embarrassing again. A lot of the credit for our progress at that time was down to Sean.

Also, widely respected in Down and in hurling circles across Ulster, the Ultimate Friend of Ulster hurling, I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 16, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
Ballybredagh are u Colm mcguinness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 16, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Definitely not Saf89, but know both well and know about Sean's role in developing our heroes of 89. If you don't believe me, ask them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2013, 12:29:22 AM
Sean McGuinness is a great guy - but 89 was all bout a group of men coming together at one time. Not just hurlers - but men. With a touch of goal scoring which always helps (eg) clute. And hey - let's e brutally honest a weak Offaly team. After all who gets beat in an all-Ireland semi and within moments can organise a guard of honour?
But to credit Sean McGuinness? Why not credit gilly McIlhatton or anyone else that ever did anything!

As for today - Sean is a great guy - but not responsible for any perceived benefits in Antrim hurling.

Might I add that he add a 2nd spell in charge after more recently!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 08:59:40 AM
89 was the result of being very competitive in the AI semi finals for a number of years - it wasn't just a one off. Sean McGuinness prepared the teams in prior years and no doubt had a massive influence.

As for a poor Offaly team - we nearly did Kilkenny in 91 too and had some very competitive semis in a few years previous. It wasn't a one off.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 17, 2013, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 16, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
This is well worth a listen and an Ulster select may be worth a try, but there are a few other aspects which need to be addressed IMO

1. Improve hurling standards right across Ulster; we need stronger club and county teams in all of our 9 counties. The Liam McCarthy will never come to Ulster until standards rise throughout Ulster. Also, we need to be look more positively at other counties (in Ulster) and help them to improve, e.g. by accommodating more teams in the Antrim leagues, accommodating challenge matches etc.

2. Parochial attitudes need to change. Players need to realise that representing their county and winning the Liam McCarthy is the ultimate honour/achievement. Talk to KK, Cork, Tipp players; they know where their priorities lie.

3. Tackle the issue of poor relations between clubs/supporters, be that between North Antrim clubs, Belfast v North Antrim and even the Ards clubs and others clubs in Down (like Bredagh) trying to promote hurling. Sean McGuinness made excellent strides in this regard when he managed Antrim and Down. I think we've lost our way a bit since then and the negativity, between so called supporters, in both Antrim and Down is shocking at times. We need to unite behind our county banners - all for one and one for all.

In down maybe.

I want to dispel this myth about the the Down hurlers all sitting in different factions in the changing room at the start of Sean McGuinness reign in Down.

Most of the team he had went to the same secondary school, some lived beside each other and a few of the main players worked together, some were even married to sisters such as Hugh Gilmore from Ballycran is married to a girl who's sister is also married to Paul McMullan from Portaferry, Noel Keith works along with a ballygalget lad and has done as long as I've known him, Dermot O'Prey also works along with a ballygalget lad at the bricklaying. Gerard McGrattans two sisters are both married to Ballygalget lads, I could go on.

Yes, there were hot and heavy games amongst ourselves, but very seldom did it spill outside the confines of the pitch into ordinary day lives.

What Sean did do however was get a settled team of lads who were all in and around their prime and. motivate and organise them and got a lot better treatment for them from the county board, staying in much better hotels, training gear etc, etc which was unheard of up until that and that has to be commended.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 17, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
these 89 guys were also playing underage in Leinster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 08:59:40 AM
89 was the result of being very competitive in the AI semi finals for a number of years - it wasn't just a one off. Sean McGuinness prepared the teams in prior years and no doubt had a massive influence.

As for a poor Offaly team - we nearly did Kilkenny in 91 too and had some very competitive semis in a few years previous. It wasn't a one off.

It was a one-off! Literally! It's the only semi we won therefore its a one-off!

I agree that it wasn't out only competitive year and we should have won more - but giving Sean McGuinness credit is a bit much.
As JC says there's been a bit of revisionism in down too - crediting McGuinness ignores the bloody talented bunch of hurlers that he had!

If he was such a messiah what happened his 2nd Antrim spell?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
It wasn't a one off that the 89 team was competing with the big boys. McGuinness had that same group of players competing in a regular basis beforehand. The next time we played the leinster champions we lost by 2 points in a game that could have went either way.

If you're as far behind as antrim currently are you'll not even have a chance in a one off game.

No-one says he created them but the guy had a very positive influence in the 89 group of players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 17, 2013, 03:31:39 PM
Fair play to St Johns.  The team that persisted with a focus on hurling won.  It appeared to me that Ballycastle thought it was going to be / or could be won via a very physical approach.  Didn't really materialise that way.

St Johns focused on their own game and proved worthy winners.

Well done to those involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2013, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
It wasn't a one off that the 89 team was competing with the big boys. McGuinness had that same group of players competing in a regular basis beforehand. The next time we played the leinster champions we lost by 2 points in a game that could have went either way.

If you're as far behind as antrim currently are you'll not even have a chance in a one off game.

No-one says he created them but the guy had a very positive influence in the 89 group of players.


+1

I don't think that could be argued against.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 17, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
It wasn't a one off that the 89 team was competing with the big boys. McGuinness had that same group of players competing in a regular basis beforehand. The next time we played the leinster champions we lost by 2 points in a game that could have went either way.

If you're as far behind as antrim currently are you'll not even have a chance in a one off game.

No-one says he created them but the guy had a very positive influence in the 89 group of players.

Antrim were also within an assess roar in 1986, the goals conceded were the killer, 7-11 to 1-24 in favour of Cork and then a year later in Dundalk vrs Kilkenny, one I remember being at so as much it was a one off victory against an aging Offaly, momentum had been building for a few years before it.

I think Sean McGuinness fell out with Antrim Co Board over a club related issue and nothing to do with the hurling aspect of it.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on June 17, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
Johnny, I happen to know a number of the Antrim 89 team very well and all would say that the foundations were laid by Sean. Although I'm Antrim to the core, I'm more acquainted with inter-club relations in Down now and I know for sure that there are a number of people (some would say, quite a few) in the Ards who can't stand the progress being made in Bredagh, not to mention Carryduff and other non-Ards clubs. Then you have the big clown from Carryduff who wished Fullen Gaels the best of luck before we played them in the Junior S/F. Sorry for introducing Down discussion to an Antrim board, but I also recall Ards folk roaring their heads off in support of Ballycastle, when they played Portaferry and Ballycran in Ulster finals in the late 70's early 80's. Don't make it out that everything was rosy in the garden in Down then, it wasn't. The point is, you get nowhere at county level with the damaging rivalries that still persist today, particularly in North Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2013, 08:31:23 PM
Wexford v Antrim, Wexford pk, 3pm  22/6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2013, 11:34:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 17, 2013, 08:31:23 PM
Wexford v Antrim, Wexford pk, 3pm  22/6

Winnable had it been in Casement, we haven't had too many wins that I can remember in Wexford park. What would be the journey time to Wexford Park?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2013, 11:58:28 PM
Did it a couple of years ago....was Sunday mind. Reckon 3hrs from the big smoke would get you there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2013, 11:58:28 PM
Did it a couple of years ago....was Sunday mind. Reckon 3hrs from the big smoke would get you there

I've dinner at friends for about 8.  Possible then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2013, 12:19:55 AM
Just pay attention at all times  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2013, 12:19:55 AM
Just pay attention at all times  :)

I've learnt my lesson  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 17, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
Johnny, I happen to know a number of the Antrim 89 team very well and all would say that the foundations were laid by Sean. Although I'm Antrim to the core, I'm more acquainted with inter-club relations in Down now and I know for sure that there are a number of people (some would say, quite a few) in the Ards who can't stand the progress being made in Bredagh, not to mention Carryduff and other non-Ards clubs. Then you have the big clown from Carryduff who wished Fullen Gaels the best of luck before we played them in the Junior S/F. Sorry for introducing Down discussion to an Antrim board, but I also recall Ards folk roaring their heads off in support of Ballycastle, when they played Portaferry and Ballycran in Ulster finals in the late 70's early 80's. Don't make it out that everything was rosy in the garden in Down then, it wasn't. The point is, you get nowhere at county level with the damaging rivalries that still persist today, particularly in North Antrim.

Shock horror, there's inter club jealousy in the Ards too and god forbid in the leafy suburbs of south Belfast now that's you are gaining a bit of success, take it as a back handed compliment. Some ballbag cheering on your opponent will have no bearing whatsoever on the result of a game so don't let it get to you. Allegedly when the result of our ulster final defeat to Rossa was announced on the radio there was a huge cheer went up in Gilmores bar in Kircubbin, they weren't cheering a year later.

I was in those changing rooms during Seans reign and unless I was oblivious to it never felt a them and us mentality between any of the players. Yes we hammered 7 shades of shíte out of each other if we ever played in club league and championship games but to the main that was left on the field to be resumed the next day.

I've a lot of time for Sean, he did an awful lot of good for Down hurling but he certainly knew how to embellish things in the press.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 17, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
Johnny, I happen to know a number of the Antrim 89 team very well and all would say that the foundations were laid by Sean. Although I'm Antrim to the core, I'm more acquainted with inter-club relations in Down now and I know for sure that there are a number of people (some would say, quite a few) in the Ards who can't stand the progress being made in Bredagh, not to mention Carryduff and other non-Ards clubs. Then you have the big clown from Carryduff who wished Fullen Gaels the best of luck before we played them in the Junior S/F. Sorry for introducing Down discussion to an Antrim board, but I also recall Ards folk roaring their heads off in support of Ballycastle, when they played Portaferry and Ballycran in Ulster finals in the late 70's early 80's. Don't make it out that everything was rosy in the garden in Down then, it wasn't. The point is, you get nowhere at county level with the damaging rivalries that still persist today, particularly in North Antrim.

Shock horror, there's inter club jealousy in the Ards too and god forbid in the leafy suburbs of south Belfast now that's you are gaining a bit of success, take it as a back handed compliment. Some ballbag cheering on your opponent will have no bearing whatsoever on the result of a game so don't let it get to you. Allegedly when the result of our ulster final defeat to Rossa was announced on the radio there was a huge cheer went up in Gilmores bar in Kircubbin, they weren't cheering a year later.

I was in those changing rooms during Seans reign and unless I was oblivious to it never felt a them and us mentality between any of the players. Yes we hammered 7 shades of shíte out of each other if we ever played in club league and championship games but to the main that was left on the field to be resumed the next day.

I've a lot of time for Sean, he did an awful lot of good for Down hurling but he certainly knew how to embellish things in the press.

He's mellowed a lot over the years, was down at our pitch last night when we played Sarsfields in a Southy game. Usually he'd be shouting but was quieter than normal. Good man and lot of time for him and the sons who I would have played against over the years. Always met him around Quinns on finals day every September.

Anyways in Antrim we have always had that, and it's been a real pain. The club championship is the real deal in most players heads up here, for years we have had clubs that dominated for long periods, Rossa, Cargin, Cushendall, Dunloy, Naomh Gall, Ballycastle Loughgiel, and of course the Johnnies. Having big periods of one club winning championships makes players very jealous and cocky, Not a good combination when the county teams meet up and players from the these clubs meet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 18, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on June 17, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
Johnny, I happen to know a number of the Antrim 89 team very well and all would say that the foundations were laid by Sean. Although I'm Antrim to the core, I'm more acquainted with inter-club relations in Down now and I know for sure that there are a number of people (some would say, quite a few) in the Ards who can't stand the progress being made in Bredagh, not to mention Carryduff and other non-Ards clubs. Then you have the big clown from Carryduff who wished Fullen Gaels the best of luck before we played them in the Junior S/F. Sorry for introducing Down discussion to an Antrim board, but I also recall Ards folk roaring their heads off in support of Ballycastle, when they played Portaferry and Ballycran in Ulster finals in the late 70's early 80's. Don't make it out that everything was rosy in the garden in Down then, it wasn't. The point is, you get nowhere at county level with the damaging rivalries that still persist today, particularly in North Antrim.

Shock horror, there's inter club jealousy in the Ards too and god forbid in the leafy suburbs of south Belfast now that's you are gaining a bit of success, take it as a back handed compliment. Some ballbag cheering on your opponent will have no bearing whatsoever on the result of a game so don't let it get to you. Allegedly when the result of our ulster final defeat to Rossa was announced on the radio there was a huge cheer went up in Gilmores bar in Kircubbin, they weren't cheering a year later.

I was in those changing rooms during Seans reign and unless I was oblivious to it never felt a them and us mentality between any of the players. Yes we hammered 7 shades of shíte out of each other if we ever played in club league and championship games but to the main that was left on the field to be resumed the next day.

I've a lot of time for Sean, he did an awful lot of good for Down hurling but he certainly knew how to embellish things in the press.

Precisely.
And even easier given the poor standard of hurling jounalism in the North.
I will say it again - if he was so good what happened the 2nd spell?
Enough for me - move on.

Are hurling league fixtures on/off this week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
yep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 18, 2013, 12:39:23 PM
Our game at cdall has been called off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 18, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 18, 2013, 12:39:23 PM
Our game at cdall has been called off.

Ports V Rossa off as well I'm being told, but we're going ahead V Ballycran.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 18, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
yep.

As a gesture of goodwill we have agreed to play without our county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 01:11:17 PM
Deja Vu with the Cushendall game Minder?

This really does contort the league - other sides play against a full strength Shamrock team.

Not blaming Oisins as I said before but I'm sure this doesnt sit easy with a certain few clubs.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
yep.

As a gesture of goodwill we have agreed to play without our county players.

They played Oisins without their players before in Glenariff and hammered they by 10, this won't make a difference in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
yep.

As a gesture of goodwill we have agreed to play without our county players.

They played Oisins without their players before in Glenariff and hammered they by 10, this won't make a difference in fairness
.


Maybe not to the result - on this occasion

But Cushendall fielded a weakened side - and who's to say a similar thing won't happen again.

Also - score difference?

How many are relegated / promoted anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2013, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 10:59:05 AM
We've oisins on Thursday evening. No county players available as you'd expect.

Is this match going ahead?
yep.

As a gesture of goodwill we have agreed to play without our county players.

They played Oisins without their players before in Glenariff and hammered they by 10, this won't make a difference in fairness
.


Maybe not to the result - on this occasion

But Cushendall fielded a weakened side - and who's to say a similar thing won't happen again.

Also - score difference?

How many are relegated / promoted anyway?

It won't happen, Loughgiel are far stronger squad wise than Cushendall (don't think the Dall lads will disagree with that), and Oisins's score difference is the worst by a good margin, 1 down 1 up I am led to believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 18, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
It's all part of a wider North Antrim Commie conspiracy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
It's all part of a wider North Antrim Commie conspiracy

I knew it!
Reds under the bed or Red-necks under the bed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 18, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
It's all part of a wider North Antrim Commie conspiracy

PMSL!! I've heard many things in Antrim hurling down the years, but that's an original & a belter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 18, 2013, 07:30:29 PM
what are the odds on a saffron win

wexford are beatable, think if they could contain Jacob and guiney they would have a good chance

a great deal depends on how training has been going since the laois defeat  (any news) which possibly doesn't seem as bad after their performance on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
16 turned up for training last week and another few haven't been seen since the laois defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
16 turned up for training last week and another few haven't been seen since the laois defeat.

I've been back playing so I might make the panel ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
Will you be here to say i told you so if we get beat ::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
16 turned up for training last week and another few haven't been seen since the laois defeat.

I've been back playing so I might make the panel ;)
I might get the oul boots out myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
Will you be here to say i told you so if we get beat ::)
it'll hardly be a major surprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
That's the spirit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:20:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
That's the spirit.
There's no point in being deluded.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
Good man. Poke fun at supporters of your own county ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
Good man. Poke fun at supporters of your own county ::)
it's better than betting against my county. I want nothing more than to be proved wrong on Saturday but as things stand within the set up and the team it isn't going to improve. I'd rather face up to that than believe the tripe constantly churned out in the press to the contrary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
The hurling setup isn't as bad as you portray it to be. Kevin Ryan deserves a chance which boys like you don't seem willing to give. Yes he made a mistake with the loughgiel thing but there aren't many better players in the county than on that team at present.

It is certainly much better than the football - that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:58:37 PM
The thing is, it isn't Tommy. The last couple of weeks have been a disaster in training. But sure, if I say anything it's all my fault.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 18, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 18, 2013, 08:58:37 PM
The thing is, it isn't Tommy. The last couple of weeks have been a disaster in training. But sure, if I say anything it's all my fault.  ::)

To be honest I have heard the same myself.  some fellas not training and others taking feeds of drink etc.  Same old story.  Footballers making hurlers look good at present.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 18, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
cheers SIE   After considering to travel and make a weekend out of it you have changed my mind

that is disappointing to hear, would have liked to see a bit of spirit, but less likely if they haven't been bothering their arse

hopefully it is individuals and not particular clubs that are trying to put pressure on players

I wonder if kevin ryan knew what he knows now would he still take the job

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 18, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
Is there any players missing or on holiday at the minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
The hurling setup isn't as bad as you portray it to be. Kevin Ryan deserves a chance which boys like you don't seem willing to give. Yes he made a mistake with the loughgiel thing but there aren't many better players in the county than on that team at present.

It is certainly much better than the football - that's for sure.

Not sure judging our hurlers by comparing to the footballers is quite the way to go.
The bookies have put the handicap at 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
The hurling setup isn't as bad as you portray it to be. Kevin Ryan deserves a chance which boys like you don't seem willing to give. Yes he made a mistake with the loughgiel thing but there aren't many better players in the county than on that team at present.

It is certainly much better than the football - that's for sure.

Not sure judging our hurlers by comparing to the footballers is quite the way to go.
The bookies have put the handicap at 7.

We'll beat that, we always have a performance in us once a year and this could be it. Wexford are no mugs and very difficult for us to beat down there. If the lads empty the tank and go for it, take the opportunities then we will be in with a shout. I hope we are close to them with 15 minutes to go.

It really is about asking the player to really put the f**king effort in, to raise their game by 30/40 percent to stick to the plan and not panic. Every player on that team plays well within their own capabilities, as a manager its very frustrating watching and knowing players are doing that. As a manager its down to Kevin to make that player do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
The hurling setup isn't as bad as you portray it to be. Kevin Ryan deserves a chance which boys like you don't seem willing to give. Yes he made a mistake with the loughgiel thing but there aren't many better players in the county than on that team at present.

It is certainly much better than the football - that's for sure.

Not sure judging our hurlers by comparing to the footballers is quite the way to go.
The bookies have put the handicap at 7.

We'll beat that, we always have a performance in us once a year and this could be it. Wexford are no mugs and very difficult for us to beat down there. If the lads empty the tank and go for it, take the opportunities then we will be in with a shout. I hope we are close to them with 15 minutes to go.

It really is about asking the player to really put the f**king effort in, to raise their game by 30/40 percent to stick to the plan and not panic. Every player on that team plays well within their own capabilities, as a manager its very frustrating watching and knowing players are doing that. As a manager its down to Kevin to make that player do that.

The days of going out and busting your balls on the day of a game and hoping for the best are long gone.

If the preparation isn't being done before and up to the game how can a manager bed in any tactics he might want to employ against Wexford? A team of 15 individuals going out and doing their own thing isn't going to get far no matter if you've a few very talented ones in the group.

What has Ryan done to only get 16 at training and lads killing themselves with feeds of drink?

What's the Antrim set up like now? Do they get fed after each session, gear etc?

I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Down hurlers are getting looked after now, even the minors are fully kitted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:08:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2013, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 18, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 18, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
The hurling setup isn't as bad as you portray it to be. Kevin Ryan deserves a chance which boys like you don't seem willing to give. Yes he made a mistake with the loughgiel thing but there aren't many better players in the county than on that team at present.

It is certainly much better than the football - that's for sure.

Not sure judging our hurlers by comparing to the footballers is quite the way to go.
The bookies have put the handicap at 7.

We'll beat that, we always have a performance in us once a year and this could be it. Wexford are no mugs and very difficult for us to beat down there. If the lads empty the tank and go for it, take the opportunities then we will be in with a shout. I hope we are close to them with 15 minutes to go.

It really is about asking the player to really put the f**king effort in, to raise their game by 30/40 percent to stick to the plan and not panic. Every player on that team plays well within their own capabilities, as a manager its very frustrating watching and knowing players are doing that. As a manager its down to Kevin to make that player do that.

The days of going out and busting your balls on the day of a game and hoping for the best are long gone.

If the preparation isn't being done before and up to the game how can a manager bed in any tactics he might want to employ against Wexford? A team of 15 individuals going out and doing their own thing isn't going to get far no matter if you've a few very talented ones in the group.

What has Ryan done to only get 16 at training and lads killing themselves with feeds of drink?

What's the Antrim set up like now? Do they get fed after each session, gear etc?

I was pleasantly surprised at how well the Down hurlers are getting looked after now, even the minors are fully kitted out.

This point is right and I have already highlighted that and that they need to not panic and stick to the plan, but that is not enough, they need to push the effort as (for me anyways) they just seem to go through the motions at times and have no real fight in them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
How can there be a plan though? Having 16 at training and the likes doesn't allow the manager the luxury of training games where he can stop/start at will to get the plan across.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
To quote verbatim what I was told:

" No plan, no team-play, no spirit."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
How can there be a plan though? Having 16 at training and the likes doesn't allow the manager the luxury of training games where he can stop/start at will to get the plan across.

I would say that during the league and leading up to the Laois game that there would have been more at training and they would have been working to a system of sorts, I'd like to think so, and with no panelist on here (Though I know there is ;)) talking about it people are going on what others are saying.

A lot of league games have went on in between the games and players will have got injured so the panel would be a bit depleted at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 19, 2013, 10:29:17 AM
Doesn't help players booking holidays as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 19, 2013, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
How can there be a plan though? Having 16 at training and the likes doesn't allow the manager the luxury of training games where he can stop/start at will to get the plan across.

I would say that during the league and leading up to the Laois game that there would have been more at training and they would have been working to a system of sorts, I'd like to think so, and with no panelist on here (Though I know there is ;)) talking about it people are going on what others are saying.

A lot of league games have went on in between the games and players will have got injured so the panel would be a bit depleted at times.

Is it already happening or does the county manager meet with the clubs managers and fixtures secretary at the start of the year and have an open and frank discussion about when he wants the players available and when he will allow them to play for their clubs?

To me that sounds like a common sense approach (which is why it is maybe ruled out) but surely these managers have their plans in place way in advance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2013, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 19, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
How can there be a plan though? Having 16 at training and the likes doesn't allow the manager the luxury of training games where he can stop/start at will to get the plan across.

I would say that during the league and leading up to the Laois game that there would have been more at training and they would have been working to a system of sorts, I'd like to think so, and with no panelist on here (Though I know there is ;)) talking about it people are going on what others are saying.

A lot of league games have went on in between the games and players will have got injured so the panel would be a bit depleted at times.

Is it already happening or does the county manager meet with the clubs managers and fixtures secretary at the start of the year and have an open and frank discussion about when he wants the players available and when he will allow them to play for their clubs?

To me that sounds like a common sense approach (which is why it is maybe ruled out) but surely these managers have their plans in place way in advance?

Sure the clubs are just an inconvenience in the modern GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on June 19, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
irish news today revealed ryan mcgarry,shay casey  and colly mc fall left panel to secure work abroad.add in a few niggly injuries and 16 at training is fair enough if ryan made the choice not to bring anyone else in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2013, 04:02:29 PM
Shay is going nowhere. He's currently injured and busy building a house. Don't believe everything you read in the Irish news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 19, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
#IrishSnooze
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
I did comment on the standard of ulster hurling journalism recently!

Good luck to the lads - sounds like we're going to need it!

This season Deja vu all over again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 19, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2013, 04:02:29 PM
Shay is going nowhere. He's currently injured and busy building a house. Don't believe everything you read in the Irish news.

SIE - is Eddie back from holiday for Saturday? Big loss if not. Think he has admitted himself he hasn't replicated club form at county level but is a serious operator.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 19, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: jftj on June 19, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
irish news today revealed ryan mcgarry,shay casey  and colly mc fall left panel to secure work abroad.add in a few niggly injuries and 16 at training is fair enough if ryan made the choice not to bring anyone else in.

True about Ryan McGarry. He hasn't played for Ballycastle for about a month now. A big loss to us and the county. Clubwise losing him and Michael Dallat to work abroad and Hippy with injury as well as others not back from injury like KB and Gerard Laverty or boys struggling to get back like Dermot Donnelly and P McLarnon, we are finding it hard this year. If Matthew's injury does'nt clear our season is over. It'll be just trying to make sure we have the points to stay up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2013, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: Glensman on June 19, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2013, 04:02:29 PM
Shay is going nowhere. He's currently injured and busy building a house. Don't believe everything you read in the Irish news.

SIE - is Eddie back from holiday for Saturday? Big loss if not. Think he has admitted himself he hasn't replicated club form at county level but is a serious operator.
he landed back today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 20, 2013, 12:06:13 AM
IMO Eddie is lgiels best forward. I love watching him play as he can run, pass, shoot and score. He also a nice fella to speak to and someone whom I think has the potential to be even better.

That said when he plays for Antrim he hasn't been good. Against Carlow in the play off he showed what he could do in the second half. I find myself willing him to do what he does for lgiel for Antrim. If he clicks he's a handful for any defender.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest

Id say if you asked DR he might have a different opinion on this one, maybe nothing too bad but maybe a question or two for him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
I can't say that we've had many complaints about him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
I can't say that we've had many complaints about him.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
I can't say that we've had many complaints about him.

;)
???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 20, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest

Id say if you asked DR he might have a different opinion on this one, maybe nothing too bad but maybe a question or two for him?
lol yeah one or two possibly! Naw I like him personally, he has his bad moments, like any ref does but on the whole he isn't that bad.
I've just felt we have come on the wrong end of calls a couple I times from him.  The quick free one annoyed me as he had no consistency with it and he did admit to getting that one wrong.
He isn't a bad ref but are there any good ones? ;) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 20, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest

Id say if you asked DR he might have a different opinion on this one, maybe nothing too bad but maybe a question or two for him?
lol yeah one or two possibly! Naw I like him personally, he has his bad moments, like any ref does but on the whole he isn't that bad.
I've just felt we have come on the wrong end of calls a couple I times from him.  The quick free one annoyed me as he had no consistency with it and he did admit to getting that one wrong.
He isn't a bad ref but are there any good ones? ;) :)

I'd say there are far more bad players than referees, players need to be alert the whole game me thinks ;)

I remember you's took a quick 27 metre free in the championship against us at our pitch which ended up in the net, we were busy lining up and yous hit it to spare man who buried it, it happens. These things have a way of evening up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 20, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest

Id say if you asked DR he might have a different opinion on this one, maybe nothing too bad but maybe a question or two for him?
lol yeah one or two possibly! Naw I like him personally, he has his bad moments, like any ref does but on the whole he isn't that bad.
I've just felt we have come on the wrong end of calls a couple I times from him.  The quick free one annoyed me as he had no consistency with it and he did admit to getting that one wrong.
He isn't a bad ref but are there any good ones? ;) :)

Not the incident that I thought you would highlight from that game DR but yeah would agree with your overall sentiment.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 20, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Bate by the Crans last night in what was a pretty decent game where they bagged a goal in injury time to take the points.

I think it ended up 4-10 to 3-16 or similar

Considering the team we put out I was expecting worse and to be fair Ballycran were all over us in the first half and should have been 7 or 8 up rather than the 2 they went in with. They got a good goal and a few points early on and were cutting through our defence at will it seemed, but we got two goals to keep us in the game. As our defence was probably missing two of our better defenders through injury it wasn't entirely unexpected.
A few changes at half time in moving a few lads about seemed to have worked, we got another two goals to take a lead with both teams pinning on points till it was all level. The winning goal was at the death and as much as it pains me to say it probably deserved, but we'll not be too despondent if we meet them later on in the year on a big pitch with a full compliment.

Also, thought the ref Owen Elliott was very good, let it go a bit and when lads were going down a bit easy made them play on. No real nastiness in the game also helped to make it an entertaining game.

Yeah I've never had any complaints about Owen, even when I managed our seniors I always thought he was fair and let the game go (within reason)

That's a fair scoring game Johnney, the Down hurlers have puit in some miles lately, I'm sure they could do with a rest

Id say if you asked DR he might have a different opinion on this one, maybe nothing too bad but maybe a question or two for him?
lol yeah one or two possibly! Naw I like him personally, he has his bad moments, like any ref does but on the whole he isn't that bad.
I've just felt we have come on the wrong end of calls a couple I times from him.  The quick free one annoyed me as he had no consistency with it and he did admit to getting that one wrong.
He isn't a bad ref but are there any good ones? ;) :)

He'd a bit of bother with a quick free last night as well.

He awarded us a free in our half back line and turned to run up the field, now I'm almost certain he blown his whistle to resume play but as he was running away with his back to the free a Ballycran lad walked in front of Eoin Clarke and Eoin duly thumped the ball into him and it rebounded back to Eoin who continued to play on, Elliott obviously didn't see it but heard the furor from both sets of fans, probably couldn't understand how Eoin Clarke had the ball in his hand, blew his whistle, Eoin Clarke thought the ball was being brought forward for the Ballycran lad not keeping the 13 metres, but got a telling off and had to retake the free from the original spot.

Can't have eyes in the back of your head I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 06:08:29 PM
Exactly johnny but being critical and i got pulled for it also, you need to run into position while watching the free take place!! You can't see everything but position is essential
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
Quote
I'd say there are far more bad players than referees, players need to be alert the whole game me thinks ;)

I remember you's took a quick 27 metre free in the championship against us at our pitch which ended up in the net, we were busy lining up and yous hit it to spare man who buried it, it happens. These things have a way of evening up

Isn't this just an excuse when admitting a mistake!
We all know and accept refs will make mistakes - except maybe the refs themselves!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
I wish there was a quote limit on this board.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
How's that SiE!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 20, 2013, 07:00:38 PM


I'd say there are far more bad players than referees, players need to be alert the whole game me thinks ;)

I remember you's took a quick 27 metre free in the championship against us at our pitch which ended up in the net, we were busy lining up and yous hit it to spare man who buried it, it happens. These things have a way of evening up

Isn't this just an excuse when admitting a mistake!
We all know and accept refs will make mistakes - except maybe the refs themselves!
[/quote]

It's a terrible myth that referees will try and even it up if he makes a mistake!!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
I wish there was a quote limit on this board.  :-\

Sorry SIE  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
That's not what I meant MR2 - I was more saying there's no evidence or reason that mistakes balance out both teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2013, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 20, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
That's not what I meant MR2 - I was more saying there's no evidence or reason that mistakes balance out both teams.

My post was a piss take
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 20, 2013, 09:41:34 PM
Team for Saturday

Chris O'Connell

Barry McFall
Arron Graffin
Conor Mc Kinley

Simon McCrory
Neil McManus (Capt)
Paul Shiels

Jackson Mc Greevey Naomh Gall
Neal Mc Auley Mac Uilin

Tony Mc Closkey
Conor Carson
Shane McNaughton

Christopher McGuinness
Karl Stewart
Darren Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
Shamrocks 5-21 oisins 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 20, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
Tough night for the oisins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 20, 2013, 10:57:16 PM
There's been worse thrashings. 2-10s decent enough nicking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 20, 2013, 11:23:21 PM
Nei in midfield? Ffs he's been great at centre half. I assume mattys injury from tr u21 final has him rules out but play Neil in the middle where he could field a ball. Doesn't make sense.
Full forward line looks weak other than Karl.
I have hope that we can win but the head says lose sadly :(
I really want to be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 21, 2013, 08:03:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
Shamrocks 5-21 oisins 2-10

Glenariffe have a lot of younger players and they got of to a very good start but Loughgiel progressively pulled away.  Seemed to be a good work ethic among the Glenariffe lads though and if they can stay up they have a base to build on.

We were missing a few first teamers + the county players.  Good to see a few younger fellas making debuts and putting in good performances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 21, 2013, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 20, 2013, 09:41:34 PM
Team for Saturday

Chris O'Connell

Barry McFall
Arron Graffin
Conor Mc Kinley

Simon McCrory
Neil McManus (Capt)
Paul Shiels

Jackson Mc Greevey Naomh Gall
Neal Mc Auley Mac Uilin

Tony Mc Closkey
Conor Carson
Shane McNaughton

Christopher McGuinness
Karl Stewart
Darren Hamill

Its a safe bet we won't line out as listed.  I'd say the plan will be to crowd the middle of the park and keep it tight.  A fine idea if you have the inside forwards to do damage.  We don't.

I may be wrong in my assumptions above but I see Wexford by 10 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 21, 2013, 08:29:04 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 21, 2013, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 20, 2013, 09:41:34 PM
Team for Saturday

Chris O'Connell

Barry McFall
Arron Graffin
Conor Mc Kinley

Simon McCrory
Neil McManus (Capt)
Paul Shiels

Jackson Mc Greevey Naomh Gall
Neal Mc Auley Mac Uilin

Tony Mc Closkey
Conor Carson
Shane McNaughton

Christopher McGuinness
Karl Stewart
Darren Hamill

Its a safe bet we won't line out as listed.  I'd say the plan will be to crowd the middle of the park and keep it tight.  A fine idea if you have the inside forwards to do damage.  We don't.

I may be wrong in my assumptions above but I see Wexford by 10 points.

Think u could be right. For a while I could see mcAuley dropping back ibetween HB and FB line with mccloskey dropping to MF along with Stewart. This will leave four forwards but problem being this could give them a great launch pad for there attacks if they leave 6 back. Antrim forwards would need to be really busy off the ball. Hope they can pull it off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2013, 09:13:24 AM
Dont know what the fitness is like with KS but if we drop him out around the middle and NMcA further back open up a bit of room for SMcN and move the ball early and fast and the rest play off him then we would be in with a shout. I dont think Wexford are any great shake but slightly better than us on a good day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 21, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 21, 2013, 09:13:24 AM
Dont know what the fitness is like with KS but if we drop him out around the middle and NMcA further back open up a bit of room for SMcN and move the ball early and fast and the rest play off him then we would be in with a shout. I dont think Wexford are any great shake but slightly better than us on a good day.

You weren't there the last day we played them down there then NAG. They were a fair bit better than us that day especially up front when they had far more purpose about their play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 22, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
Is any1 giving updates on the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 22, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
Is any1 giving updates on the game?

Wexford 1-4 Antrim 0-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Wexford 1-5 Antrim 0-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2013, 03:38:56 PM
Wexford 2-5 Antrim 0-9 HT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 22, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 22, 2013, 03:38:56 PM
Wexford 2-5 Antrim 0-9 HT

Cheers, sounds tight. Heard they got second goal on the stroke of ht. prob need a goal or two ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 22, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
I see SIE spewing incorrect tripe on twitter while our players are down trying to win a match in Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 22, 2013, 03:56:31 PM
I see SIE spewing incorrect tripe on twitter while our players are down trying to win a match in Wexford.
as I've said before on here, that isn't me. Get your facts correct before posting tripe yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2013, 04:13:27 PM
Having just read what rogue sie tweeted, he/she makes a valid point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
If you want to pm me your Twitter name JJ I'll follow you with a message. How's about that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2013, 04:29:38 PM
Wexford 3-18 Antrim 0-17 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on June 22, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Well that's that then!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2013, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on June 22, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Well that's that then!!
apparently it's progress bushwhacker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 22, 2013, 06:32:43 PM
Certainly an improvement on last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 22, 2013, 07:09:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 22, 2013, 06:32:43 PM
Certainly an improvement on last year.

Without taking any one point over another how do you measure the improvement. The only difference was actually getting past Westmeath and they may even have went backwards. From where I stand it seems the exact same as last year without the press/manager s@#te that went on. We even accounted for Wexford last year. I just don't think we should be getting into what failure is better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tom moore83 on June 22, 2013, 11:35:58 PM
suppose kevin ryan will be calling of all games so as antrim can prepare for ulster final....now that will be progress
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2013, 02:14:28 AM
Lads if we can leave out personalities and club stuff for a second consider this please:

The county season is boringly predictable yet again. When was the last season that didnt end with meaningless wins & losses then nothing gained or lost. It's just and endless cycle.

So - let's not perpetuate this!
Let's not hold our club season with the majority of hurlers to ransom for this meaningless procession each year!

For once - just once - put our club season first!
We will end up with the sane results as always in year 1 - but with a cracking club scene.
In year 2 we might still not advance - but we will have broadened our player base due to the strength of the club scene.
By year3 the club scene might have been reflected in depth in the county squad and a rising tide lifting all boats.

Lets face it - what have we got to lose!
A bad county set up and a good one yield the sane results at present so let's try something different!
If it works great!
If it doesn't well nothing lost at county stage - but gains in club scene!

Or else let's go through the same routine and continue to be the pet mouse or hamster on the wheel.
Same old same old?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 23, 2013, 07:36:43 AM
I'm in full agreement about letting clubs play their matches. There should be no 7 day rule. Donegal are playing club football championship at the minute and it isn't doing them any harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 23, 2013, 08:50:57 AM
Any of the Oisins know the days/times for the Feis/Countess/Junior weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Big win for Glenariffe against Portaferry, rumours it was Portaferrys U-12 team.

1-13 to 2-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Beat ballygalget 11-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 23, 2013, 06:36:01 PM
That win for Glenariffe is bad news for Rossa who lost again today. Would need to be some turn around at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2013, 07:05:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 23, 2013, 06:36:01 PM
That win for Glenariffe is bad news for Rossa who lost again today. Would need to be some turn around at this stage.

Plenty of games left for Rossa & Portaferry, who were apparently very poor today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2013, 07:20:57 PM
Ports and Rossa in free fall. Surprised by Ports though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
Dunloy 4 point winners over the Johnnies, The Johnnies improving?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on June 23, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
Dunloy 4 point winners over the Johnnies, The Johnnies improving?

Incorrect - St John's won by 4,
3-13 to 3-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on June 23, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
Dunloy 4 point winners over the Johnnies, The Johnnies improving?

Incorrect - St John's won by 4,
3-13 to 3-09

Oh has changed now on the Antrim site, decent win and fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 23, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
That is a massive result for St. John's. It'll do their confidence the world of good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 23, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
Neil McManus on Twitter - Seems seriously unfair that all Antrims championship games were away this yr! Lip service being paid to ulster hurling as usual !

Like an excuse a school kid would use
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 24, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
It sounds like the truth, every single year we are forced to play our first Championship match away from home. Does that seem fair? Or was it fair that 9 of our 12 matches this year were away from home? I think every genuine Antrim person would agree, the only people, like you Saffrongael, who would disagree are doing so because of petty reasons. I wonder would you have reacted in the same way if Liam Watson said that in his regular "I hate Antrim" column.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 24, 2013, 08:06:38 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 24, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
It sounds like the truth, every single year we are forced to play our first Championship match away from home. Does that seem fair? Or was it fair that 9 of our 12 matches this year were away from home? I think every genuine Antrim person would agree, the only people, like you Saffrongael, who would disagree are doing so because of petty reasons. I wonder would you have reacted in the same way if Liam Watson said that in his regular "I hate Antrim" column.

We knew when we entered Leinster the games would be away from home, same for Galway. It's the luck of the draw whether games or home or away outside of that. We have some cheek complaining about having to play games away from home, we have hardly been outside Casement in the last 30 years in the Ulster Championship. I suppose it is far easier to blame where games are played than face the harsh realities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 24, 2013, 08:47:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 24, 2013, 08:06:38 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 24, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
It sounds like the truth, every single year we are forced to play our first Championship match away from home. Does that seem fair? Or was it fair that 9 of our 12 matches this year were away from home? I think every genuine Antrim person would agree, the only people, like you Saffrongael, who would disagree are doing so because of petty reasons. I wonder would you have reacted in the same way if Liam Watson said that in his regular "I hate Antrim" column.

We knew when we entered Leinster the games would be away from home, same for Galway. It's the luck of the draw whether games or home or away outside of that. We have some cheek complaining about having to play games away from home, we have hardly been outside Casement in the last 30 years in the Ulster Championship. I suppose it is far easier to blame where games are played than face the harsh realities.

Exactly.  No point pushing for an entry into Leinster and then crying about having to play away from home.  The quaifier draw is obviously down to luck so you just have to get on with it.  If we want to make progress we have to try and compete on an even playing field.  If we start guaranteeing Antrim home fixtures where does it stop?  3 point headstart?  Opposition only allowed 13/14 men?

If we want respect as a hurling county we have to earn it, not go crying to Croke Park to give our senior team as many advantages as possible.

By all means push for help with underage coaching etc but we need to draw the line and realise other counties laugh at us for crying about things like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 24, 2013, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Beat ballygalget 11-9

As the score would suggest a pretty lifeless game spoiled by a strong wind blowing straight down the field meaning both teams packed their defences when playing into it.

Loughgiel trying to be too elaborate at times and it not working out for them, probably kept us in the game, but we didn't look like getting the margin down enough to cause any problems.

Still need another 4 to 6 points for safety IMO. I'd expect Rossa to do their usual trick and be playing games and picking up points in October or November when most teams have ceased training.

I'm not going to comment on the lack of home games for Antrim  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2013, 09:01:07 AM
Winker has put forward his ideas to improve antrim in his column JJ. He has never once stated that he hates them as you put it. Again, get your facts correct before posting your anti loughgiel/winker rants.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2013, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2013, 09:01:07 AM
Winker has put forward his ideas to improve antrim in his column JJ. He has never once stated that he hates them as you put it. Again, get your facts correct before posting your anti loughgiel/winker rants.

Hate is a bit strong in fairness, however you could hardly call 'his' column constructive or positive in any shape or form concerning Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
Do people think we should listen to a walking contradiction? Seriously?

I'm totally against any player or current manager mouthing off in weekly columns regardless of how respected they are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
Do people think we should listen to a walking contradiction? Seriously?

I'm totally against any player or current manager mouthing off in weekly columns regardless of how respected they are

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 24, 2013, 05:32:22 PM
Not a bad result for us despite losing. We played well minus shorty and woody. Also Oran Quinn, Kevin marring and séan dowds injured so were short a few. Nigel Elliott came off early with a knee injury and we also lost young Adam O'kane in corner back to a broken collar bone. Despite all that plus a ref who was utterly woefull to us the entire game we played pretty well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 24, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 23, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Big win for Glenariffe against Portaferry, rumours it was Portaferrys U-12 team.

1-13 to 2-8

And glenarrife had the wind both halves! 😉
I suppose I would support the Antrim team anyway here but great win for your lads minder well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 23, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Big win for Glenariffe against Portaferry, rumours it was Portaferrys U-12 team.

1-13 to 2-8

And glenarrife had the wind both halves! 😉
I suppose I would support the Antrim team anyway here but great win for your lads minder well done.

I'm sure Dingy had a big grin on his portly wee face after that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2013, 10:40:32 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 24, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 23, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Big win for Glenariffe against Portaferry, rumours it was Portaferrys U-12 team.

1-13 to 2-8

And glenarrife had the wind both halves! 😉
I suppose I would support the Antrim team anyway here but great win for your lads minder well done.

I'm sure Dingy had a big grin on his portly wee face after that one.

By all accounts Dinger is doing a great job and is very well thought of by the players, he is working with fairly limited resources, it would be some achievement if we can stay up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
Don't tell me dinger is Ulster Scots for dingy? It :) definately not a spelling mistake
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
Don't tell me dinger is Ulster Scots for dingy? It :) definately not a spelling mistake

Is that irony?

"Urban Dictionary: definately
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=definately‎
Idiot-speak for "definitely". One of the most common moronic misspellings found on the internet."

If you know the fella in question, dingy is pretty apt.

He gets dinger as well.

FYI

His proper name is Martin Coulter, he's more commonly known as Dingy or Dinger.

His Dad is also called Martin Coulter, but he's known as Jack.

He's a cousin or second cousin also called Martin Coulter, he is known as Tom, used to play right half back for us.
I suppose there's that many Coulters you're bound to run out of names at some point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
Don't tell me dinger is Ulster Scots for dingy? It :) definately not a spelling mistake

Is that irony?

"Urban Dictionary: definately
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=definately‎
Idiot-speak for "definitely". One of the most common moronic misspellings found on the internet."

If you know the fella in question, dingy is pretty apt.

He gets dinger as well.

FYI

His proper name is Martin Coulter, he's more commonly known as Dingy or Dinger.

His Dad is also called Martin Coulter, but he's known as Jack.

He's a cousin or second cousin also called Martin Coulter, he is known as Tom, used to play right half back for us.
I suppose there's that many Coulters you're bound to run out of names at some point.

Very good!

Conor McCaffrey of St Johns is referred to as Frank.
Unfortnaute because his brother is called Frank - so is referred to as Fra.
Important to know if your talking about Fra or Frank on the Whitrock!

In Rossa there are two Sean Shannons.
One works with TV aerials and the other paints roads.
So there are just referred to as Aerials and Roads.
Both could have the name so now neither do!

There's bound to be a few quirky twists on family names up the Glens?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 25, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 25, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
Don't tell me dinger is Ulster Scots for dingy? It :) definately not a spelling mistake

Is that irony?

"Urban Dictionary: definately
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=definately‎
Idiot-speak for "definitely". One of the most common moronic misspellings found on the internet."

If you know the fella in question, dingy is pretty apt.

He gets dinger as well.

FYI

His proper name is Martin Coulter, he's more commonly known as Dingy or Dinger.

His Dad is also called Martin Coulter, but he's known as Jack.

He's a cousin or second cousin also called Martin Coulter, he is known as Tom, used to play right half back for us.
I suppose there's that many Coulters you're bound to run out of names at some point.

Very good!

Conor McCaffrey of St Johns is referred to as Frank.
Unfortnaute because his brother is called Frank - so is referred to as Fra.
Important to know if your talking about Fra or Frank on the Whitrock!

In Rossa there are two Sean Shannons.
One works with TV aerials and the other paints roads.
So there are just referred to as Aerials and Roads.
Both could have the name so now neither do!

There's bound to be a few quirky twists on familt names up the Glens?!

Not in Loughgiel. Hardly any nicknames.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2013, 01:07:47 PM
"The winner of the Munster semi-finals, which is one game, are into an All-Ireland quarter-final. It just doesn't add up. We have about five games to get to that stage. It is very unbalanced."
Kevin Ryan

Is he not missing the fact that winning a semi-final in Munster involves beating a top team - and the 5 games Antrim need to win might include the Carlow Westmeath Laois element?

Clutching at straws I think. At the end of the day results speak more than opinions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 25, 2013, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 25, 2013, 01:11:59 PM
Yeah, we should move into Munster as it's handier.....

Do we seriously need to consider dropping back down to Christy Ring?

Kilkenny
Tipperary
Galway
Limerick
Cork
Clare
Waterford
Offally
Laois
Wexford

All easily above us in the pecking order.  Those which we may be marginally above are Carlow and Westmeath.

The managemnt have stated the 3 year plan is to win the All Ireland.  I'm all for optimism and goal setting but come on now lads...lets get real.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 25, 2013, 01:30:45 PM
I posted this on the Christy Ring thread, but I think it serves the needs of the tier of hurling counties just below the top teams as they get competitive games at their own level before a shot at the better counties;

Right, time for a rethink..

In Munster you've 5 teams, Cork, Tipp, Clare, Waterford and Limerick all at a pretty level standard.

In Leinster you've Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Dublin and Offaly, the last three possibly a bit below the first two, but semi-competitive as per Offalys showing at the weekend..

Then you've the rest, Laois, Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath, and the Christy Ring winners from the previous year.

Let the rest play off in a round robin basis 'qualifying group', 4 games each which would be pretty competitive, then the top two get drawn into either the Munster section or the Leinster section. Bottom team into the Christy Ring..

The Munster championships and Leinster champions ships get played off with two preliminary rounds in both, semis, finals as normal. Leinster is seeded currently where the previous winners aren't drawn into a preliminary round AFAIK, I'd seed both finalists to prevent them being drawn into preliminary rounds, and the same in Munster.

The back door teams would only be those who made it into the Munster and Leinster championships proper as the qualifying group have already had 4 games.

This way mismatches would be kept to a minimum, the top two teams out of the qualifiers will get at least two games against better opposition and have already had 4 games to prepare for it.
The back door games will be competitive, less mismatches, as well.

Any other thoughts???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2013, 01:43:32 PM
NAG a few points:

- Carlow and Westmeath are also in there.

- Laois beat us this year. We've beat them nigh on every other year. That does not make them easily above us.

The hurling structures are flawed. As they stand the christy ring would be a complete waste of time for us.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 25, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2013, 01:43:32 PM
NAG a few points:

- Carlow and Westmeath are also in there.

- Laois beat us this year. We've beat them nigh on every other year. That does not make them easily above us.

The hurling structures are flawed. As they stand the christy ring would be a complete waste of time for us.

Yeah I referenced that we may be marginally above Carlow & Westmeath.  We may be closer to Laois than the others but I think they have overtaken us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2013, 01:54:55 PM
Maybe this year but they didn't beat us by that much either so if we were to meet next year could go either way.

The Christy Ring wouldn't provide many games, if any, of any use for us. The only benefit would be to restructure it and bring westmeaths, carlows and probably Laois into it too and then there'd be an outrage.

We can be competitive with the Wexford's, Offaly's and Laois's of this world. Offaly we've really rattled a few times, Wexford maybe not so much so but I don't think we should fear Wexford either as on a bad day for them and good day for us they're beatable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 25, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Brendan Mc Allister, former Cushendall corner back known as Feet, his son is called Toe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2013, 06:58:40 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 25, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Brendan Mc Allister, former Cushendall corner back known as Feet, his son is called Toe.

Love that!

HS - your hurlers proved too much for another manager?
Is Shannon gone or just on holiday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on June 25, 2013, 09:56:44 PM
heard Shannon is gone and not for a holiday either

reckon that familiar shadow that always is there has got a little too much for him

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2013, 11:55:13 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on June 25, 2013, 09:56:44 PM
heard Shannon is gone and not for a holiday either

reckon that familiar shadow that always is there has got a little too much for him

Player commitment the issue.
(And that came from one of the players!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 26, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
Craic is mighty on here.  :o.   Antrim are simply not good enough am afraid.  With or without winker or anyone else who should be apart of it,  Pains me to say it.  But we're not.   We use to be in a tier below top 4/5 teams.   Now we're not even there.  We have went back in last 2/3 years.   And if like the papers say.  Everyone is happy in camp.  And the lads are there that want to be there.  And so on and so forth.  what's the problem???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 26, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
Delighted for lads tonight beating virtually a full strength shams team in feis semi final by 3 points. Considering our recent poor form I was expecting a different result. But credit to lads. A bit of passion shown. Loughiel were poor. Their last two games have been 0-11 and 2-7.........

I reckon cushendall will be looking on with interest. Are loughiel stale?

Any way I'm sure Shams won't lose too much sleep over tonight. But for us it was certainly a good boost for our young squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 26, 2013, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 26, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
Craic is mighty on here.  :o.   Antrim are simply not good enough am afraid.  With or without winker or anyone else who should be apart of it,  Pains me to say it.  But we're not.   We use to be in a tier below top 4/5 teams.   Now we're not even there.  We have went back in last 2/3 years.   And if like the papers say.  Everyone is happy in camp.  And the lads are there that want to be there.  And so on and so forth.  what's the problem???
Have they really regressed or is it that teams around them a few years ago like Dublin etc. have made headway? The net result is the same but you could ask how much progress has there been in real terms in 20+ years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 26, 2013, 11:57:09 PM
These things ebb and flow a bit. Setting unreal expectations every year seems to be the one thing we do consistently. We've poor commitment/structure/resourse at development squad level. Why be surprised that the senior team struggles with the top 8/10 teams

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 27, 2013, 01:24:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2013, 11:57:09 PM
These things ebb and flow a bit. Setting unreal expectations every year seems to be the one thing we do consistently. We've poor commitment/structure/resourse at development squad level. Why be surprised that the senior team struggles with the top 8/10 teams

We pay lip service to these development squads and underage set ups and always have. Seems to be a first come first served when it comes to who wants to take a development squad. I don't even like the practice of taking a team at club level just cause your kid is on it but at county development level it is a bit of a farce. This is the point in the kids development where we should be trying to source them the best coaches and best ex county players for advice(i know the best players/x players may not be the best coaches but at least squeeze them for knowledge and advice).But still it happens turn up to take your kid to the development squad training and end up a mentor. Like back in the day when John taggert went to ask about parking his burger van in casement on match days and came away the county u-21 manager. :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 27, 2013, 08:40:30 AM
Quote from: Leyland on June 26, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
Delighted for lads tonight beating virtually a full strength shams team in feis semi final by 3 points. Considering our recent poor form I was expecting a different result. But credit to lads. A bit of passion shown. Loughiel were poor. Their last two games have been 0-11 and 2-7.........

I reckon cushendall will be looking on with interest. Are loughiel stale?

Any way I'm sure Shams won't lose too much sleep over tonight. But for us it was certainly a good boost for our young squad

In Loughgeil too

Shams 2-06 Ballycasle 0-15

Outstanding result and will boost our boys.  How close was L'geil to full strength, Leyland?  Thought they were playing a lot of fringe players?  What about the Town was Matty & Pinky back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 27, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
Quote from: Leyland on June 26, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
Delighted for lads tonight beating virtually a full strength shams team in feis semi final by 3 points. Considering our recent poor form I was expecting a different result. But credit to lads. A bit of passion shown. Loughiel were poor. Their last two games have been 0-11 and 2-7.........

I reckon cushendall will be looking on with interest. Are loughiel stale?

Any way I'm sure Shams won't lose too much sleep over tonight. But for us it was certainly a good boost for our young squad

Not sure, but from what I saw they're forcing the passing game too much. Some of the passes they were doing against us was just plan needless and not progressing their cause any. A man free 50 yards out from goals doesn't need to pass to another man roughly the same distance from goals, just take your score FFS or draw a defender and then pass to a team mate to utilize that space.

In saying that some of those passes weren't coming off and allowing our lads to get a flick or touch to clear it. In a month or so's time, I'd expect a lot of those mistakes to be eradicated.

They're still the team to beat IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2013, 08:46:35 AM
Yeah...let's not delude ourselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 27, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 27, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: Leyland on June 26, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
Delighted for lads tonight beating virtually a full strength shams team in feis semi final by 3 points. Considering our recent poor form I was expecting a different result. But credit to lads. A bit of passion shown. Loughiel were poor. Their last two games have been 0-11 and 2-7.........

I reckon cushendall will be looking on with interest. Are loughiel stale?

Any way I'm sure Shams won't lose too much sleep over tonight. But for us it was certainly a good boost for our young squad


Fair play to BC, good win last night.  We were missing a couple but that wasn't the reason we got beat.  As sloppy as we have been for some time.  Our half forward line was non existent and we waited until approx 12 minutes from the end before making any replacements.  We were also slow to adapt to Neal McAuley playing a sweeping role. That, combined with our HF line being poor, meant he picked up a lot of possession.

Dissapointing not to win but in the grand scheme of things hopefully it will act as a rocket for a few on the field and on the sideline.  If we do meet Ballycastle later in this years Championship our boys are now fully aware of how big a challenge they face.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.

Started early this year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
 
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.

And come championship they will roll over like they always do, same old same old.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 27, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
Look lads. We wont win the Senior Championship this year. But we certainly will try to compete.

Loughgiel finished game last night with oly Johhny campbell missing from all-Ireland team. Taking that into account with our age profile, injuries, etc last night was a good win. Can we beat Cushendall - again i hope lads give it a rattle.

But as i said last night - loughgiel wont be too worried.

NAG - you seem to have a thing against us - that we always lie down - honestly thing this young group will prove you wrong ovr next 4-5 years. Put it like this id rather have our panel going forward than yours......

As for championship - winner will be Loughgiel or Cushendall. Simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
Quote from: Leyland on June 27, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
Look lads. We wont win the Senior Championship this year. But we certainly will try to compete.

Loughgiel finished game last night with oly Johhny campbell missing from all-Ireland team. Taking that into account with our age profile, injuries, etc last night was a good win. Can we beat Cushendall - again i hope lads give it a rattle.

But as i said last night - loughgiel wont be too worried.

NAG - you seem to have a thing against us - that we always lie down - honestly thing this young group will prove you wrong ovr next 4-5 years. Put it like this id rather have our panel going forward than yours......

As for championship - winner will be Loughgiel or Cushendall. Simple.

Leyland nothing against the club at all, just going on pure facts and having watched them for a good number of years.
Always expect them to do better than they have done and then when it comes to it they don't produce. Maybe this crop of young players coming through will help maybe they won't, but too many times I have expected them to come to the championship and be really competitive recently and when it came to it just didn't count.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.

And come championship they will roll over like they always do, same old same old.
i wouldn't say always nag.   You must be very young.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2013, 02:37:43 PM
Ballycastle used to be top dogs but have found it tougher in recent years. Rather than saying they don't perform I don't think they've had the players there to compete.

This is looking like it may correct itself in years to come if they hold on to the youunger players however that is an if.

I don't know that they've ever rolled over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.

And come championship they will roll over like they always do, same old same old.
i wouldn't say always nag.   You must be very young.

Not that young, but when I say always I meaning in the recent past say. Not harking back to the 60's and 70's.

They have had some serious talent through the club in the last 20 years and maybe ran into a couple of decent teams in that time but I feel like they have under achieved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 27, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.

And come championship they will roll over like they always do, same old same old.
i wouldn't say always nag.   You must be very young.

Not that young, but when I say always I meaning in the recent past say. Not harking back to the 60's and 70's.

They have had some serious talent through the club in the last 20 years and maybe ran into a couple of decent teams in that time but I feel like they have under achieved.

I agree the town have produced some great talents and they have went an unbelievable tine without the volunteer cup - but I'm not sure the word under-achieve is suitable.

In their defence - the 90s saw the dall and Dunloy dominate with the latter proving one of the best club sides in Ireland into the 2000s. Nowadays we have an all Ireland winning side from loughgiel.
So having a good team and some incredible lay talented individuals is always relevant to the opposition?

Would be great to see them back competing for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 27, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
You have to remember as well that Cushendall beat Ballycastle in three finals in the 90's and Dunloy beat them in a few finals as well. We beat them in 1992, 1993 and 1996 and they should really have won in 1992 but for some heroics from the late Danny Mc Naughton and Jackie Carson who both got goals in the final ten minutes. They had great players at that time, Humpy, Jennings, Liam Gallagher, Stephen Boyle, Dessie, Brian & Ronan Donnelly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 27, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
Ballycastle must be early favourites for the championship now.
Remember a feis win for us in Dunloy.   Showed a lot of our lads a few things about winning.  Ment a lot at the time.   If town could now go and beat the dall.   Surely they would be bussing.

And come championship they will roll over like they always do, same old same old.
i wouldn't say always nag.   You must be very young.

Not that young, but when I say always I meaning in the recent past say. Not harking back to the 60's and 70's.

They have had some serious talent through the club in the last 20 years and maybe ran into a couple of decent teams in that time but I feel like they have under achieved.

I agree the town have produced some great talents and they have went an unbelievable tine without the volunteer cup - but I'm not sure the word under-achieve is suitable.

In their defence - the 90s saw the dall and Dunloy dominate with the latter proving one of the best club sides in Ireland into the 2000s. Nowadays we have an all Ireland winning side from loughgiel.
So having a good team and some incredible lay talented individuals is always relevant to the opposition?

Would be great to see them back competing for the championship.
WOULD IT??? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 27, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 01:52:55 PM

Leyland nothing against the club at all, just going on pure facts and having watched them for a good number of years.
Always expect them to do better than they have done and then when it comes to it they don't produce. Maybe this crop of young players coming through will help maybe they won't, but too many times I have expected them to come to the championship and be really competitive recently and when it came to it just didn't count.

If your not from Ballycastle NAG, what facts are you going on that gave you such optimism about Ballycastle over a good number of years and that has left you so disappointed?

I can give you some facts as well. The 1990's was a barren time for our underage development and teams and apart from a handful of players there wasn't sufficient numbers coming through to step in to the senior panel. That meant when the core of the team from the 90's left the scene in the mid 2000's we were at a very low ebb at senior level and there was no real competition for places. It came to a stage that around 2007/08 there was only really Pinky and Cosey over the age of 24/25 in the senior team and it was a case of putting in players from the '07 u21 team like Cormac Donnelly, Neil McAuley, the Dallats, Gerard Laverty etc. That still didn't give us a big enough squad and we have then really had to wait to the last couple of years for the next good underage crop (this years u21 team mainly) to blend in with those other lads. This has given more numbers at senior level and competition for places again but of course this year we are missing one of the top players in the county and no team can afford to lose a player like that.

We are still developing a team and a squad and who knows it could be a few years before we get back to a senior final but we will get there. So I certainly haven't been disappointed with the teams efforts over the last few years, in fact I have been getting more and more optimistic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on June 27, 2013, 06:51:49 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on June 27, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 01:52:55 PM

Leyland nothing against the club at all, just going on pure facts and having watched them for a good number of years.
Always expect them to do better than they have done and then when it comes to it they don't produce. Maybe this crop of young players coming through will help maybe they won't, but too many times I have expected them to come to the championship and be really competitive recently and when it came to it just didn't count.

If your not from Ballycastle NAG, what facts are you going on that gave you such optimism about Ballycastle over a good number of years and that has left you so disappointed?

I can give you some facts as well. The 1990's was a barren time for our underage development and teams and apart from a handful of players there wasn't sufficient numbers coming through to step in to the senior panel. That meant when the core of the team from the 90's left the scene in the mid 2000's we were at a very low ebb at senior level and there was no real competition for places. It came to a stage that around 2007/08 there was only really Pinky and Cosey over the age of 24/25 in the senior team and it was a case of putting in players from the '07 u21 team like Cormac Donnelly, Neil McAuley, the Dallats, Gerard Laverty etc. That still didn't give us a big enough squad and we have then really had to wait to the last couple of years for the next good underage crop (this years u21 team mainly) to blend in with those other lads. This has given more numbers at senior level and competition for places again but of course this year we are missing one of the top players in the county and no team can afford to lose a player like that.

We are still developing a team and a squad and who knows it could be a few years before we get back to a senior final but we will get there. So I certainly haven't been disappointed with the teams efforts over the last few years, in fact I have been getting more and more optimistic.

Hear hear.

And for North Antrim's big 3 - Loughgeil and The Dall and Dunloy I think they should be takin a good hard look at St Johns this year and not Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 10:56:30 PM
It's there for the winning.   Best team will win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2013, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 27, 2013, 10:56:30 PM
It's there for the winning.   Best team will win.

Always do as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 27, 2013, 11:20:16 PM
Even with my Belfast bias - St. John's won't count once it hits championship pace at the top table.
Still loughgiel for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2013, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 27, 2013, 11:20:16 PM
Even with my Belfast bias - St. John's won't count once it hits championship pace at the top table.
Still loughgiel for me.

Their pace is fine, if they continue to get fitter and sharper they'll do alright, I'd say Michael will have plenty of games lined up in preparation before the Championship. The southern teams play plenty of challenge games leading up to Championship, Galway teams playing Limerick and Clare teams and vice versa. We (in the North) can't really get those quality games unless we travel.

Belfast to Dublin 1h45mins so you could get decent teams for prep. It's about the effort the team puts in, if they are willing and buy into it then most managers will get them as much as they could.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 28, 2013, 01:50:00 AM
I mean the pace of their stickwork rather than their legs.
St. John's are nowhere near a championship pace Dunloy team let alone the shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 07:58:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 27, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
You have to remember as well that Cushendall beat Ballycastle in three finals in the 90's and Dunloy beat them in a few finals as well. We beat them in 1992, 1993 and 1996 and they should really have won in 1992 but for some heroics from the late Danny Mc Naughton and Jackie Carson who both got goals in the final ten minutes. They had great players at that time, Humpy, Jennings, Liam Gallagher, Stephen Boyle, Dessie, Brian & Ronan Donnelly.
Quote from: Fairhead on June 27, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 01:52:55 PM

Leyland nothing against the club at all, just going on pure facts and having watched them for a good number of years.
Always expect them to do better than they have done and then when it comes to it they don't produce. Maybe this crop of young players coming through will help maybe they won't, but too many times I have expected them to come to the championship and be really competitive recently and when it came to it just didn't count.

If your not from Ballycastle NAG, what facts are you going on that gave you such optimism about Ballycastle over a good number of years and that has left you so disappointed?

I can give you some facts as well. The 1990's was a barren time for our underage development and teams and apart from a handful of players there wasn't sufficient numbers coming through to step in to the senior panel. That meant when the core of the team from the 90's left the scene in the mid 2000's we were at a very low ebb at senior level and there was no real competition for places. It came to a stage that around 2007/08 there was only really Pinky and Cosey over the age of 24/25 in the senior team and it was a case of putting in players from the '07 u21 team like Cormac Donnelly, Neil McAuley, the Dallats, Gerard Laverty etc. That still didn't give us a big enough squad and we have then really had to wait to the last couple of years for the next good underage crop (this years u21 team mainly) to blend in with those other lads. This has given more numbers at senior level and competition for places again but of course this year we are missing one of the top players in the county and no team can afford to lose a player like that.

We are still developing a team and a squad and who knows it could be a few years before we get back to a senior final but we will get there. So I certainly haven't been disappointed with the teams efforts over the last few years, in fact I have been getting more and more optimistic.

This is exactly my point, look at the calibre of those players and add a few others not mentioned, reaching all those finals and not getting over the line, in my book that's under achieving whatever about lack of underage development. At that time they had a serious team and should have done better, yes there have been barren years since but my point is still valid. IMO they have under achieved in the last number of years and are not the championship team that they have the reputation for any more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
You're very quick to bracket other clubs nag. One could put the present cushendall team into that bracket using your way of thought considering their last 3 championship final performances. Couldn't one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:02:13 AM
You're very quick to bracket other clubs nag. One could put the present cushendall team into that bracket using your way of thought considering their last 3 championship final performances. Couldn't one?

One very much could if one was so disposed.

However this is more of a recent thing and not going back over two/ three decades.

Yet no one has proved me wrong in my bracketing thus far? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
How would you bracket cushendall for the 7 decades prior to 1981?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
How would you bracket cushendall for the 7 decades prior to 1981?

I wouldn't as I said when at the outset of this element of the discussion I was referring to the recent past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
How would you bracket cushendall for the 7 decades prior to 1981?

I wouldn't as I said when at the outset of this element of the discussion I was referring to the recent past.
My point is that most clubs go through a period like this. What's more is that this is a completely different ballycastle team. They're young, eager and talented. And going by how their under age teams are performing, they'll be around for a while yet. Maybe this year will be too soon, who knows? But they'll be contending and most likely winning finals in the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:45:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 09:11:49 AM
How would you bracket cushendall for the 7 decades prior to 1981?

I wouldn't as I said when at the outset of this element of the discussion I was referring to the recent past.
My point is that most clubs go through a period like this. What's more is that this is a completely different ballycastle team. They're young, eager and talented. And going by how their under age teams are performing, they'll be around for a while yet. Maybe this year will be too soon, who knows? But they'll be contending and most likely winning finals in the next few years.

You are missing my point SIE - yes it is plain to see that every club goes through spells like this - my point was the Ballycastle shouldnt have been, that they have had enough talent through the club to have had titles in that period. So IMO they have under achieved in the recent past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
And my point is that you can say that about any club that gets to a final. They're no different to any other club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 10:09:53 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
And my point is that you can say that about any club that gets to a final. They're no different to any other club.

Can or Can't?

I can say it and in fact I think I did say it - hold on for those in the back IMO in relation to the talent that has been in the Ballycastle club over the past 20-30 years IMO they have under achieved. Obviously they are coming again with great underage success and that is a credit to them but that was not part of this element of the discussion.

Example - Rossa with a similar group (maybe slightly better) of players got the job done once in that period.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 10:18:39 AM
You posted that they'll "roll over" like before. My point is that this is a different team.
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Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 10:21:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 10:18:39 AM
You posted that they'll "roll over" like before. My point is that this is a different team.

Yeah like before in the past 20-30 years, yeah maybe they are different this year but I for one will wait on a bit more evidence than a carnival Feis match to base that on.
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Post by: theskull1 on June 28, 2013, 01:42:24 PM
Ballycastle over the period youre talking about NAG were never in the top 2 sides on any year I can mind. I think they just didnt have the panels rather than "rolling over". Like every team they pulled off a few shock wins over the years but unlike Rossa (who I'd put in the same category as McUilins) they didnt have that wee bit of luck on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 28, 2013, 01:42:24 PM
Ballycastle over the period youre talking about NAG were never in the top 2 sides on any year I can mind. I think they just didnt have the panels rather than "rolling over". Like every team they pulled off a few shock wins over the years but unlike Rossa (who I'd put in the same category as McUilins) they didnt have that wee bit of luck on the day.

Well maybe rolled over was a bit on the harsh side, but as an outsider looking in I would have expected more of them for the talent they had is all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 28, 2013, 01:42:24 PM
Ballycastle over the period youre talking about NAG were never in the top 2 sides on any year I can mind. I think they just didnt have the panels rather than "rolling over". Like every team they pulled off a few shock wins over the years but unlike Rossa (who I'd put in the same category as McUilins) they didnt have that wee bit of luck on the day.

But yous did on one occassion against Rossa, were Rossa just couldn't get past ya's!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 28, 2013, 06:15:46 PM
Not sure Rossa had any luck when they won it?
I watched them win a semi final vs Dunloy and despite being in maternity ward I recall they beat loughgiel convincingly?
That team add to my earlier point about the town - great side but relevant to the opposition. Rossa & ballycastle might have won more but for a once in a generation Dunloy team and now the shamrocks.
The black & amber ears must be burning this last few days!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
We were lucky enough against Dunloy in the semi but we'd been unlucky against them in previous years. We beat Loch gCaol out the gate in the final though.
we never turned up. The funny thing is that with 15 minutes to go we were still in with a shout. Too many boys thought it was won. Plus a great Rossa Performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
We were lucky enough against Dunloy in the semi but we'd been unlucky against them in previous years. We beat Loch gCaol out the gate in the final though.
we never turned up. The funny thing is that with 15 minutes to go we were still in with a shout. Too many boys thought it was won. Plus a great Rossa Performance.

It was a shitty day and the rain and wind wasn't helping both teams in fairness but Rossa wanted it more on the day, Shannon was possessed that day, and as been mentioned before that Rossa team was past it's peak as there was better teams before that winning team
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Post by: Hurler24 on June 28, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
@NAG1 I agree that a club like Ballycastle shouldn't have a lack of talent due to the population they can draw on but it happens in every club. The current team has usually about 10-12 U21 players starting and possibly only two over 26?? As SIE pointed out winning a Feis can give a team belief at this level as happened with Loughgiel. Ballycastle probably wont win the Championship but they are back as contenders.They ran Cushendall to two points despite not hitting a point from play.They ran Dunloy to a point in last years championship.This group of player has won everything on their way up.That is the difference to the players throughout the 2000s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on June 28, 2013, 11:44:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 28, 2013, 07:58:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 27, 2013, 03:28:12 PM
You have to remember as well that Cushendall beat Ballycastle in three finals in the 90's and Dunloy beat them in a few finals as well. We beat them in 1992, 1993 and 1996 and they should really have won in 1992 but for some heroics from the late Danny Mc Naughton and Jackie Carson who both got goals in the final ten minutes. They had great players at that time, Humpy, Jennings, Liam Gallagher, Stephen Boyle, Dessie, Brian & Ronan Donnelly.
Quote from: Fairhead on June 27, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 27, 2013, 01:52:55 PM

Leyland nothing against the club at all, just going on pure facts and having watched them for a good number of years.
Always expect them to do better than they have done and then when it comes to it they don't produce. Maybe this crop of young players coming through will help maybe they won't, but too many times I have expected them to come to the championship and be really competitive recently and when it came to it just didn't count.

If your not from Ballycastle NAG, what facts are you going on that gave you such optimism about Ballycastle over a good number of years and that has left you so disappointed?

I can give you some facts as well. The 1990's was a barren time for our underage development and teams and apart from a handful of players there wasn't sufficient numbers coming through to step in to the senior panel. That meant when the core of the team from the 90's left the scene in the mid 2000's we were at a very low ebb at senior level and there was no real competition for places. It came to a stage that around 2007/08 there was only really Pinky and Cosey over the age of 24/25 in the senior team and it was a case of putting in players from the '07 u21 team like Cormac Donnelly, Neil McAuley, the Dallats, Gerard Laverty etc. That still didn't give us a big enough squad and we have then really had to wait to the last couple of years for the next good underage crop (this years u21 team mainly) to blend in with those other lads. This has given more numbers at senior level and competition for places again but of course this year we are missing one of the top players in the county and no team can afford to lose a player like that.

We are still developing a team and a squad and who knows it could be a few years before we get back to a senior final but we will get there. So I certainly haven't been disappointed with the teams efforts over the last few years, in fact I have been getting more and more optimistic.

This is exactly my point, look at the calibre of those players and add a few others not mentioned, reaching all those finals and not getting over the line, in my book that's under achieving whatever about lack of underage development. At that time they had a serious team and should have done better, yes there have been barren years since but my point is still valid. IMO they have under achieved in the last number of years and are not the championship team that they have the reputation for any more.

NAG you are entitled to your opinion but above you started off talking about facts but you didn't really listen to the facts I gave above. Ballycastle have not underachieved in the last 10 or so years, we simply have not had the team to compete, some great players but not a strong enough team. Theres a difference. As for the 1990's we were second best in 3 those of the finals, 93 & 96 to a good Cushendall team and 98 to a fabulous Dunloy team. That's not underachieving that's just coming up against better teams on the day. Granted in 1992 we left one behind us but I don't think you can brand nearly 2 generation of hurlers as underacheivers because of that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 28, 2013, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on June 28, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
@NAG1 I agree that a club like Ballycastle shouldn't have a lack of talent due to the population they can draw on but it happens in every club. The current team has usually about 10-12 U21 players starting and possibly only two over 26?? As SIE pointed out winning a Feis can give a team belief at this level as happened with Loughgiel. Ballycastle probably wont win the Championship but they are back as contenders.They ran Cushendall to two points despite not hitting a point from play.They ran Dunloy to a point in last years championship.This group of player has won everything on their way up.That is the differenrce to the players throughout the 2000s

Very true. The newes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:22:01 AM
I still say the west Belfast clubs have a bigger population to draw on than any clubs in the rest of the county. The problem is too many clubs in that area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2013, 01:28:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:22:01 AM
I still say the west Belfast clubs have a bigger population to draw on than any clubs in the rest of the county. The problem is too many clubs in that area.

That's a direct contradiction SiE!
Because there's so many clubs = less playing population for each. 
In terms of numbers to draw from just look at the squads at training / match days - in the end that's what clubs have to work with.
Fact is north Antrim are better off.
We could argue all day about relative populations and affecting factors!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 29, 2013, 02:14:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2013, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
We were lucky enough against Dunloy in the semi but we'd been unlucky against them in previous years. We beat Loch gCaol out the gate in the final though.
we never turned up. The funny thing is that with 15 minutes to go we were still in with a shout. Too many boys thought it was won. Plus a great Rossa Performance.

It was a shitty day and the rain and wind wasn't helping both teams in fairness but Rossa wanted it more on the day, Shannon was possessed that day, and as been mentioned before that Rossa team was past it's peak as there was better teams before that winning team


see all the points beyond this but i have to say this, it was overdue the county title going to Rossa, played the town in the 90's and they were good. but money goes to money(what i mean by this is you win c/ship you win). Belfast does have a big population then you devide and divide and divide(catholic, gaa man, football or hurling, then 1 of 17 clubs in the west). belfast loking to north antrim for help is like the county looking to croke park for help.

until the belfast clubs can go 1 code then we will help ourselves as going with the cap in hand to N Antrim or Croke Park will not rub. we have always had the underage kids in belfast winning i would say more than 50% of titles up till minor but then its a dead end road. sort that out and were half way to sorting the county scene out. Sin é
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 02:34:18 AM
The problem is too many clubs in west Belfast. Simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 29, 2013, 04:02:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 02:34:18 AM
The problem is too many clubs in west Belfast. Simple.

thats what i was trying to say but also them all being dual comfounds the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
I've said before on here perhaps a few of the clubs should look into amalgamating their hurling teams. I know it'll never happen but it's worth considering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 29, 2013, 12:38:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
I've said before on here perhaps a few of the clubs should look into amalgamating their hurling teams. I know it'll never happen but it's worth considering.
Did this not happen a couple of years ago? Or it was meant to happen and the Johnnies pulled their players out to concentrate on winning an intermediate championship.
I think SIE means some of the smaller clubs in Belfast joining together instead of just being pretty much social clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2013, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
I've said before on here perhaps a few of the clubs should look into amalgamating their hurling teams. I know it'll never happen but it's worth considering.
Did this not happen a couple of years ago? Or it was meant to happen and the Johnnies pulled their players out to concentrate on winning an intermediate championship.

It was intermediate and below clubs that played in this Belfast team. Was shit, no training and no team spirit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
A bit like Antrim at the minute. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
A bit like Antrim at the minute. ;)

You have heard of the phrase, be nice to people on the way up........... ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
I think there'll be a few different faces on the panel next year. So the word on the grapevine is saying.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on June 30, 2013, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
I think there'll be a few different faces on the panel next year. So the word on the grapevine is saying.  ;)

Who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 30, 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
A bit like Antrim at the minute. ;)
Would be so much better with Winker playing  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 01, 2013, 10:01:18 AM
What's the story this week then lads are there matches on for Wednesday or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 01, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
We have no matches until Sunday week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
were back again on the 10th at home to Ballycastle then away to Glenariffe. was supposed to be a home game but we changed it as they have a festival on that weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 01, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Cushendall beat us in Feis final by 2-11 v 1-12. Decent game. Played with a bite of bite to it, both teams went at it. The standard wasnt brilliant, but was still fairly competitive the whole way through. We were 6 or 7 up in first half and lost 2 poor goals - cant understand why Ryan McGarry wasnt in goals - saw him pucking about at half time.

Was relatively pleased with our lads - they stood up to cdall and could have won the game with a bit of luck.

Overall an encouraging week for us beating nearly a full strength Loughgiel team, and running a full strength Dall team to 2 points in the space of 5 days albeit the Feis Cup. Definite steps in the right road.

I hope lads knuckle down over next two months.
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Post by: johnneycool on July 01, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 01, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Cushendall beat us in Feis final by 2-11 v 1-12. Decent game. Played with a bite of bite to it, both teams went at it. The standard wasnt brilliant, but was still fairly competitive the whole way through. We were 6 or 7 up in first half and lost 2 poor goals - cant understand why Ryan McGarry wasnt in goals - saw him pucking about at half time.

Was relatively pleased with our lads - they stood up to cdall and could have won the game with a bit of luck.

Overall an encouraging week for us beating nearly a full strength Loughgiel team, and running a full strength Dall team to 2 points in the space of 5 days albeit the Feis Cup. Definite steps in the right road.

I hope lads knuckle down over next two months.

Do you think they've another few gears to click into come championship time?

Sometimes teams go flat out early on to get a few good results early on in the league and then blow up when the rest catch up training wise when it comes round to the business end of the year.

I got the impression from watching Loughguile the other week that they maybe hadn't done an awful lot of stickwork yet and had loads of roam for improvement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on July 01, 2013, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 01, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 01, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Cushendall beat us in Feis final by 2-11 v 1-12. Decent game. Played with a bite of bite to it, both teams went at it. The standard wasnt brilliant, but was still fairly competitive the whole way through. We were 6 or 7 up in first half and lost 2 poor goals - cant understand why Ryan McGarry wasnt in goals - saw him pucking about at half time.

Was relatively pleased with our lads - they stood up to cdall and could have won the game with a bit of luck.

Overall an encouraging week for us beating nearly a full strength Loughgiel team, and running a full strength Dall team to 2 points in the space of 5 days albeit the Feis Cup. Definite steps in the right road.

I hope lads knuckle down over next two months.

Do you think they've another few gears to click into come championship time?

Sometimes teams go flat out early on to get a few good results early on in the league and then blow up when the rest catch up training wise when it comes round to the business end of the year.

I got the impression from watching Loughguile the other week that they maybe hadn't done an awful lot of stickwork yet and had loads of roam for improvement.

Cant speak for the shams but i would imagine they will raise their game considerably come championship

As for Cushendall i seriously hope they find a few gears as i thought they where very poor yesterday. loads to be worked on i would have thought.

Ive only seen Ballycastle a couple of times this year and they have disappointed me both times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 02, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: Leyland on July 01, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
Cushendall beat us in Feis final by 2-11 v 1-12. Decent game. Played with a bite of bite to it, both teams went at it. The standard wasnt brilliant, but was still fairly competitive the whole way through. We were 6 or 7 up in first half and lost 2 poor goals - cant understand why Ryan McGarry wasnt in goals - saw him pucking about at half time.

Was relatively pleased with our lads - they stood up to cdall and could have won the game with a bit of luck.

Overall an encouraging week for us beating nearly a full strength Loughgiel team, and running a full strength Dall team to 2 points in the space of 5 days albeit the Feis Cup. Definite steps in the right road.

I hope lads knuckle down over next two months.

Leyland that looks like your blaming the keeper for the goals.  Ryan has been away and to just go straight into team after comin back would'nt be fair maybe.  And I would'nt blame the keeper if you have an extra man in defence and can't deal with a high ball into the square it is'nt hardly the keepers fault. And not one high ball TWO high balls.  Cushendall have a good defence. They ahve had for a few years now so where's the sense in giving a good defence an free man. And when that man is Neil McManus well what more can you say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 02, 2013, 06:32:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
I've said before on here perhaps a few of the clubs should look into amalgamating their hurling teams. I know it'll never happen but it's worth considering.

Think that development is inevitable sie in the not too distance future ie 5 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fronk The Tank on July 05, 2013, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
Micky McCloskey Rossa goalkeeper at underage up to Minor/ under 21, Great keeper but Never really committed after Minor. Got Injured in a bit of a riot  during a minor championship game and never really had his heart in it afterwards. Was the best keeper rossa produced in recent history just a pity he never really played senior.

To be honest, that isn't entirely true. I played in those same minor teams as Micky, and the match you're referring to was the Minor championship semi-final replay against Loughgiel, and Mick got hit in the head from some shithouse when the final whistle went, which turned into a full scale battle between our minor team that other lot and their dozens of idiot supporters who jumped the fence to get involved. Thing is though, that was our first year minor. He was still our keeper when we won the championship again the next season, and I played another full season in under 21 along with him.

A lot of us tend to fall away around that time due to work and other commitments. I could tell you what though - that match wasn't the reason why anyone lost the will to play anymore. In fact, it spurred us on so much that we beat all around us the following year.

Facts lads ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 05, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the farce that is the ulster hurling championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 05, 2013, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 05, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
Anyone know what's happening with the farce that is the ulster hurling championship?

Is the farce that Antrim go straight into the final every year?   ;)

Down and Derry replay their semi-final this Sunday in Armagh, the minor final between Down and Antrim is on before it.

The final was to be this Sunday, so I presume It'll be next Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 05, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Ulster championship.  Definite over haul needed   Fact that its played on casement all the time doesn't help

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on July 05, 2013, 05:27:17 PM
They should play it pre-season like the McKenna or Walsh Cup. God only knows when the final will be now, there's a full round of club fixtures on 14th July.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 06, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Does anybody care about the Ulster championship anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: No Soloing on July 06, 2013, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 05, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Ulster championship.  Definite over haul needed   Fact that its played on casement all the time doesn't help

The final is in Celtic Park this year!

There isnt really any other way to play the Ulster Championship except to have 2 semi-finals. At least there is a championship. It may be a bit of a farce and Antrim may win it basically every year but it gives players from Derry, Down & Armagh the chance to play in a final and a slight chance to win an Ulster title.

I would think it meant a lot to the Derry players in 2000 becoming the first ones from the county to win a title in nearly 100 years. Down matched Antrim for a good part of the 90s and havent been a million miles away in finals recently. Who, even 10 years ago, would have though Armagh hurlers would have been playing in an Ulster final? There is a little bit more to hurling in Ulster than just Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 06, 2013, 12:22:55 PM
When Derry won it, it meant something. There was progression to an all Ireland quarter or semi final. Now it's meaningless. It's a pity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: No Soloing on July 06, 2013, 12:54:28 PM
True. But I dont think it would be meaningless to someone from Derry, Armagh or Down to have the chance to play in an Ulster final and maybe win one. I would think many of the Antrim players would be pleased with a winners medal. Not every club player gets to play in or win All-Irelands

The only overhaul would be not to have an Ulster Championship at all and maybe combine Ulster & Connacht - or with Antrim, Galway, London in the Leinster Championship (and as Christy Ring winners there is an argument that Down could be there as well) just have a Munster and non-Munster championship. In my opinion that would be sad. I think its better to be involved in even a 2 team championship that have no championship at all. I think the Ulster Championship still has value, maybe moreso for the counties other than Antrim.

It has always been more of a pity that there isnt a proper championship. Some Ulster counties basically have no hurling, or in others its concentrated in one area or between a handful of clubs. Maybe clubs are too scared of upsetting their chances of winning the football championship or something. Maybe it is something the Ulster GAA should do more to redress
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 07, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
Congratulations to Rossa in their Feile win today in Limerick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 07, 2013, 08:12:13 PM
Brilliant for Rossa and Antrim.   Fair play!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 07, 2013, 10:17:55 PM
Fabulous result for Rossa and Belfast and Antrim!

I see 2 ex-seniors as coaches great to see them putting back into their club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2013, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 08, 2013, 07:45:55 AM
Brilliant stuff. Well done Marty, Jim & the lads.

HS will this provide a bit of a boost for the club in general and start to maybe look at facilities etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on July 08, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
Well done Rossa. We need our rivals to be strong if we are to improve. Better facilities needed for most Belfast clubs. Pretty much left to our own devices to come up with funding and a plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2013, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: jdyok on July 08, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
Well done Rossa. We need our rivals to be strong if we are to improve. Better facilities needed for most Belfast clubs. Pretty much left to our own devices to come up with funding and a plan.

What like every other club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
From today's Irish Times:

"No date has yet been fixed for the Ulster senior hurling final against Antrim, which will be played in Celtic Park.

A relieved Down manager Gerard Monan called on the Ulster Council to give his side a few weeks of a break before taking on the Saffrons."We have seven or eight boys going on holidays and to the Mumford and Sons concert [in Dublin] next week so we're hoping not to play it until the end of July, start of August."
"

Bloody Mumford and Sons. Do they not take into account the possibility of replays in the Ulster Championship when fixing the dates for these sort of things??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 08, 2013, 04:30:03 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 08, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
From today's Irish Times:

"No date has yet been fixed for the Ulster senior hurling final against Antrim, which will be played in Celtic Park.

A relieved Down manager Gerard Monan called on the Ulster Council to give his side a few weeks of a break before taking on the Saffrons."We have seven or eight boys going on holidays and to the Mumford and Sons concert [in Dublin] next week so we're hoping not to play it until the end of July, start of August."
"

Bloody Mumford and Sons. Do they not take into account the possibility of replays in the Ulster Championship when fixing the dates for these sort of things??????

I don't think they did, shock horror, Ulster hurling as an afterthought!!

Was talking to one of the Down lads the other day and they just want the thing over and done with, this lad even suggested a cross bar challenge to decide it, watches too much soccer AM this boy!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 08, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
So the Ulster final can't be played because a load of players are going to Dublin to listen to that arse gravy. Very good.
In fairness, the Ulster Council have made a complete bollocks of this, not allowing for a possible semi-final replay. There was a two-week gap between QF and SF, yet one scheduled between the SF and final. Shows the esteem the Ulster SHC is held in really. Dunno why they persist with this annual farce
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on July 08, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2013, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: jdyok on July 08, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
Well done Rossa. We need our rivals to be strong if we are to improve. Better facilities needed for most Belfast clubs. Pretty much left to our own devices to come up with funding and a plan.

What like every other club?

Yip...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 08, 2013, 05:51:34 PM
I think this year more than any other has shown that once the link between ulster and the all-Ireland had gone - so had the ulster championship!

Maybe if it was played prior to Leinster and only the winners entered that championship it could have status but other than that can we not just put it in the same box as the Connacht championship - or if that offends some counties then allow others to opt out.

I am also conscious of its affect on club fixtures.

Lets face it - not like ulster council will dive a damn no matter what happens!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 08, 2013, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2013, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 08, 2013, 07:45:55 AM
Brilliant stuff. Well done Marty, Jim & the lads.

HS will this provide a bit of a boost for the club in general and start to maybe look at facilities etc?

I know Lamh dearg have already done a bit of work - and both Rossa & St. John's have ambitious plans. St. John's are sorting out the finances and Rossa already have this in place.

Would like to see some much needed development at milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 09, 2013, 06:20:31 AM
Mill town is in good hands. A great bunch of lads doing fantastic work with our under 8's to 14's and have been for a few years now. Watch this space ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 08, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
So the Ulster final can't be played because a load of players are going to Dublin to listen to that arse gravy. Very good.
In fairness, the Ulster Council have made a complete bollocks of this, not allowing for a possible semi-final replay. There was a two-week gap between QF and SF, yet one scheduled between the SF and final. Shows the esteem the Ulster SHC is held in really. Dunno why they persist with this annual farce

Put yourself in the players position, are you not entitled to a holiday even if it is to listen to 'arse gravy' in Dublin? The Down lads have had two draws to date either in the Christy Ring or Ulster championship, went the long way in the Christy Ring and had Armagh, then Derry to play twice, that's eight fixtures whilst Antrim had the sum total of 3 in roughly the same time frame.

Why wouldn't Gerard Monan want at least a weeks grace?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 08, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
So the Ulster final can't be played because a load of players are going to Dublin to listen to that arse gravy. Very good.
In fairness, the Ulster Council have made a complete bollocks of this, not allowing for a possible semi-final replay. There was a two-week gap between QF and SF, yet one scheduled between the SF and final. Shows the esteem the Ulster SHC is held in really. Dunno why they persist with this annual farce

Put yourself in the players position, are you not entitled to a holiday even if it is to listen to 'arse gravy' in Dublin? The Down lads have had two draws to date either in the Christy Ring or Ulster championship, went the long way in the Christy Ring and had Armagh, then Derry to play twice, that's eight fixtures whilst Antrim had the sum total of 3 in roughly the same time frame.

Why wouldn't Gerard Monan want at least a weeks grace?




I understand that but Dublin played five weeks in a row and didn't seem to do them any harm. It's the inter-county season ffs. What if the Ulster final was on Sunday last and drawn?

Anyway, the fault here is the Ulster Council. They have made a complete mess of this and it shows the contempt they hold hurling in. It won't be played the following week as football final is on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2013, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 08:22:41 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 08, 2013, 04:38:06 PM
So the Ulster final can't be played because a load of players are going to Dublin to listen to that arse gravy. Very good.
In fairness, the Ulster Council have made a complete bollocks of this, not allowing for a possible semi-final replay. There was a two-week gap between QF and SF, yet one scheduled between the SF and final. Shows the esteem the Ulster SHC is held in really. Dunno why they persist with this annual farce

Put yourself in the players position, are you not entitled to a holiday even if it is to listen to 'arse gravy' in Dublin? The Down lads have had two draws to date either in the Christy Ring or Ulster championship, went the long way in the Christy Ring and had Armagh, then Derry to play twice, that's eight fixtures whilst Antrim had the sum total of 3 in roughly the same time frame.

Why wouldn't Gerard Monan want at least a weeks grace?




I understand that but Dublin played five weeks in a row and didn't seem to do them any harm. It's the inter-county season ffs. What if the Ulster final was on Sunday last and drawn?

Anyway, the fault here is the Ulster Council. They have made a complete mess of this and it shows the contempt they hold hurling in. It won't be played the following week as football final is on.

How about some Wednesday night in North Antrim? No one really cares, but at least would draw a big crowd and create a bit of atmosphere about the game. Yes the down lads might not be too keen, but would they rather play in front of a big crowd or even less now with the game being shifted if its played in any of the county grounds!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
good idea, but lets play it in Ballycran instead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
good idea, but lets play it in Ballycran instead.

Grand. Just ludicrous taking it to Celtic Park. At least Ballycran will have some form of a crowd and atmosphere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
good idea, but lets play it in Ballycran instead.

Grand. Just ludicrous taking it to Celtic Park. At least Ballycran will have some form of a crowd and atmosphere

Well either way, if Ballycran was actually flat and a proper pitch that wouldnt be a problem.  ;)

The principal still stands, get it played and get the club stuff into full swing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 09, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
good idea, but lets play it in Ballycran instead.

Grand. Just ludicrous taking it to Celtic Park. At least Ballycran will have some form of a crowd and atmosphere

Well either way, if Ballycran was actually flat and a proper pitch that wouldnt be a problem.  ;)

The principal still stands, get it played and get the club stuff into full swing.

Ballycran is as good and flat a surface as you'll get , just elevated at one end, a bit like Dunloys pitch, but Crans would be worse.

If there's only a dozen or so turning up at Antrim county training how big of an impact is it on club hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2013, 12:24:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 09, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on July 09, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 09, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
good idea, but lets play it in Ballycran instead.

Grand. Just ludicrous taking it to Celtic Park. At least Ballycran will have some form of a crowd and atmosphere

Well either way, if Ballycran was actually flat and a proper pitch that wouldnt be a problem.  ;)

The principal still stands, get it played and get the club stuff into full swing.

Ballycran is as good and flat a surface as you'll get , just elevated at one end, a bit like Dunloys pitch, but Crans would be worse.

If there's only a dozen or so turning up at Antrim county training how big of an impact is it on club hurling?

Dunloy's second pitch?  ;D

Not saying the training is having an impact but the match is going to kill another weekend for the clubs, so get it played and out of the way!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 09, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
johnneycool, Dunloy's pitch is a lot better than Ballycran's!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 09, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 09, 2013, 06:20:31 AM
Mill town is in good hands. A great bunch of lads doing fantastic work with our under 8's to 14's and have been for a few years now. Watch this space ;)

I mean more in terms of infrastructure - changing & playing/training facilities etc?

Glad to see everyone largely agreed at this stage club activity should have greater prominence than the farce of the ulster championship. Is the Celtic park thing part of city if culture or something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 09, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
johnneycool, Dunloy's pitch is a lot better than Ballycran's!

Ballycran is as good and flat a surface as you'll get , just elevated at one end, a bit like Dunloys pitch, but Crans would be worse.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2013, 08:57:02 AM
ok a best pitch you have played on debate following on from the last post! lol

for me either loughgiel or cushendall. good and tight and always great surfaces to play on with the crowd right on top of you.

least fav? portaferrys old pitch, never liked it. though their new pitch is brilliant!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2013, 11:49:16 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

Been a while since you played on it btdtgtt - was a super pitch but dont know what has happened it since they extended it but it is wetter and softer than before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 10, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
Have to say i always loved playing at Glenariff...great setting but for playing surface would have to Loughiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

The natural amphitheater of Portaferrys old pitch was hard to beat for atmosphere, something their new pitch lacks sadly, great surface that it is.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 10, 2013, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

The natural amphitheater of Portaferrys old pitch was hard to beat for atmosphere, something their new pitch lacks sadly, great surface that it is.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 10, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

The natural amphitheater of Portaferrys old pitch was hard to beat for atmosphere, something their new pitch lacks sadly, great surface that it is.
the atmosphere was enhanced by the midges.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2013, 01:01:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

mind going to portaferrys old pitch for games with my dad, was a family day out! picnic packed and sat on that hill, great atmosphere as well in it!

also like ballycastles old field was great to play at. ive never played at the new one but for some reason i dont like it. probably cause we dont win much at it! lol

as others have said lgiel is hard to beat. great to watch a game from it as well on either side (ive never been on the terrace tho! enemy ground! lol)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 10, 2013, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 10, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
Loughgiel is by far the best playing surface!
End of debate?!
Dunloy is also a credit to them.

Cushendall slopes sideways.

The down pitches also have fine surfaces altho I loved portaferry's old pitch! Not the surface - but a great setting!

The natural amphitheater of Portaferrys old pitch was hard to beat for atmosphere, something their new pitch lacks sadly, great surface that it is.
the atmosphere was enhanced by the midges.

f**k, forgot about them, they were bad though especially if you were close to the fir trees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 06:00:33 PM
Refusing a beer with this BBQ to go to corrigan!
Hope it's worth it but think St. John's will win handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 10, 2013, 07:52:33 PM
Glenravels old pitch before the new development was good but for some reason the top end is awful now..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 10, 2013, 08:57:48 PM
You simply cannot whack Falls Park - the electric atmosphere, top-rate facilities, the lush pitches themselves, where would you get anything like it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
Dunloy 4-12 ballycastle 1-11. Tough game with a lot of nasty tackles. 
How shorty wasn't killed at the end up is anyone's guess. Matty tried to take his head off and didn't even get so much as a warning.
We had to take him off before someone ended his career!
Saul got a straight red and then sillily slapped c cunning as he was sent off which the ref told him would go in his report.
That said it wasn't that bad a game. We did play well and the goals made the difference. Ballycastle couldn't get their half forward line going at all.
Good win considering we were missing 3-4 starters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 10, 2013, 10:28:34 PM
Quick post as on my way back up the coast. Texting and driving beware!

Absolutely tremendous game at corrigan tonight ended in a fair draw.

Played in great way from start to finished and well reffed I must say.

Will post details later - after a shandy at the caravan!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 10, 2013, 10:36:32 PM
Was at the Belfast derby myself. Now that you mention neither team had many frees close in to the goals, not sure if that means it was well reffed but definitely not too many frees given. Bit of arguing over  a potential wide that was given as a point for St Johns and one that was given wide for Rossa which looked over. Hawk Eye was needed.

Enjoyable game played in good spirits!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on July 10, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 10, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
Dunloy 4-12 ballycastle 1-11. Tough game with a lot of nasty tackles. 
How shorty wasn't killed at the end up is anyone's guess. Matty tried to take his head off and didn't even get so much as a warning.
We had to take him off before someone ended his career!
Saul got a straight red and then sillily slapped c cunning as he was sent off which the ref told him would go in his report.
That said it wasn't that bad a game. We did play well and the goals made the difference. Ballycastle couldn't get their half forward line going at all.
Good win considering we were missing 3-4 starters.

DR ur being a little generous with the truth. Shorty was off very 5mins minimum and replaced by a blood sub as is the case in many senior games. He returned to the field of play and contributed significantly to dunloy's final tally......so hardly 'killed'. A very physical game, matched by both teams out there. Ropey refereeing played its part in things getting out of control. U win some, u lose some - not our night, Dunloy took their scores.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 10, 2013, 11:18:21 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on July 10, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 10, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
Dunloy 4-12 ballycastle 1-11. Tough game with a lot of nasty tackles. 
How shorty wasn't killed at the end up is anyone's guess. Matty tried to take his head off and didn't even get so much as a warning.
We had to take him off before someone ended his career!
Saul got a straight red and then sillily slapped c cunning as he was sent off which the ref told him would go in his report.
That said it wasn't that bad a game. We did play well and the goals made the difference. Ballycastle couldn't get their half forward line going at all.
Good win considering we were missing 3-4 starters.



DR ur being a little generous with the truth. Shorty was off very 5mins minimum and replaced by a blood sub as is the case in many senior games. He returned to the field of play and contributed significantly to dunloy's final tally......so hardly 'killed'. A very physical game, matched by both teams out there. Ropey refereeing played its part in things getting out of control. U win some, u lose some - not our night, Dunloy took their scores.


Maybe they where not trying to kill him,but Matty definitely tried to break his neck, when the ref refused to act on this it was a case of GET SHORTY(pardon the pun) for the rest of the match. Do you think mushy took him of the field to give him an ice cream. my guess is he thought  enough was enough. Ballycastle  had no interest in hurling tonight which is very uncharacteristic of them. Always where respected for there discipline but not tonight . Somebody had them to pumped up  me thinks. when the ref did nothing they took things up a gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2013, 12:00:33 AM
Wasn't at our game but heard we were 5 up at half time only to lose by 8 points!!! dreadful ffs. Refereed Sarsfields Clooney Gaels, tight enough in the first half but Sarsfields won handy in the end and put up a big score also. Not a cross word all night and a easy game to ref, fair play to both teams for trying to hurl and leave the gurning aside.

Refereed a football match the other day, what a shower of gurnny cnuts,  the amount of slabbering was unreal, a bunch of poofs ffs!! But hey I caused it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2013, 12:25:17 AM
Quote from: CastleCamog on July 10, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 10, 2013, 10:09:39 PM
Dunloy 4-12 ballycastle 1-11. Tough game with a lot of nasty tackles. 
How shorty wasn't killed at the end up is anyone's guess. Matty tried to take his head off and didn't even get so much as a warning.
We had to take him off before someone ended his career!
Saul got a straight red and then sillily slapped c cunning as he was sent off which the ref told him would go in his report.
That said it wasn't that bad a game. We did play well and the goals made the difference. Ballycastle couldn't get their half forward line going at all.
Good win considering we were missing 3-4 starters.

DR ur being a little generous with the truth. Shorty was off very 5mins minimum and replaced by a blood sub as is the case in many senior games. He returned to the field of play and contributed significantly to dunloy's final tally......so hardly 'killed'. A very physical game, matched by both teams out there. Ropey refereeing played its part in things getting out of control. U win some, u lose some - not our night, Dunloy took their scores.
We took him because he was dizzy and had blood running from his ear. He sat for 5 mins to check he was ok. He recovered and played on until the end where as per usual he was hacked down, scuffle and shortys face guard was completely ripped off.
It's not like ballycastle nor would I say mattys a dirty hurler. Wasn't like him at all. Reminded me of your U21 game. Didn't play your game at all, that physically thing isn't ballycastle hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 11, 2013, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 10, 2013, 10:36:32 PM
Was at the Belfast derby myself. Now that you mention neither team had many frees close in to the goals, not sure if that means it was well reffed but definitely not too many frees given. Bit of arguing over  a potential wide that was given as a point for St Johns and one that was given wide for Rossa which looked over. Hawk Eye was needed.

Enjoyable game played in good spirits!

Yes that's true. I didnt see well enough to make a call on either but granted the feeling from the crowd around me was much the same as your post. Maybe home advantage helped St. John's here but as I said the referee was generally faultless tonight - let the game go while always in control of it.

As for the game:

1) St. John's are obviously fitter and had more of a plan.
2) Rossa have some undoubted quality but are guilty of some school boy errors in possession
3) it was nip & tuck but St. John's pulled a few points clear for half time. 2nd half was point-for-point until Hamill intercepted a free and made no mistake with the finish - game on.
4) St. John's then regained the lead while Rossa looked tired (several players just back from holidays by leg colour and confirmed by Rossa supporters - cue the stereotypes!)
5) the final phase of the game saw the Rossa keeper pull off some blinding saves - small boy used to play in corners HS? Ray mc Donnell son? While Rossa it 2more goals of breaking balls.
6) in the end a draw was the cliche fair result.
7) however what struck me most about this game was it was hugely competitive and played well throughout - again credit to ref.

All in all worth the miles!
Best for Rossa were the keeper and McGuinness and Hamill created the goals.
For St. John's Conor Johnston had a great game and Simon McCrory worked hard. Not sure other midfielders name but he also moved plenty of ball.
I don't even recall much verbals from either sideline! Although a few comments traded on the hill!

Anyway I rant.

Mr2 what about st galls?
Sounds like the town game was tasty - shields is a great hurler.
No more games tonight?

Hopefully a run of games to build to championship fever now - still the shamrocks for me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 11, 2013, 01:02:30 AM
I'd like to know who ordered the attention shown to shorty tonight. Seems very premeditated. Gutless sc**bag if so. Paul Shields is an absolute gentleman both on and off the pitch. Quiet and unassuming. Someone tell me why he deserved the abuse he took tonight? Are Ballycastle happy that that's how they roll nowadays?


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r6Op9dLKEEA/TilbEGvFR8I/AAAAAAAABL8/cCiCQbIh6sI/s400/3.jpg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on July 11, 2013, 07:00:37 AM
QuoteNo more games tonight?

Ballycran play Portaferry tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 11, 2013, 08:13:44 AM
Another tanking for our lads, Rossa and Johnnies result not too bad as i am sure Rossa would have been targeting that game for a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 11, 2013, 12:11:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 11, 2013, 01:02:30 AM
I'd like to know who ordered the attention shown to shorty tonight. Seems very premeditated. Gutless sc**bag if so. Paul Shields is an absolute gentleman both on and off the pitch. Quiet and unassuming. Someone tell me why he deserved the abuse he took tonight? Are Ballycastle happy that that's how they roll nowadays?


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r6Op9dLKEEA/TilbEGvFR8I/AAAAAAAABL8/cCiCQbIh6sI/s400/3.jpg

Special players are always given special attention. I would always have said that certain players need to be marked tightly and not given any room, but to go out and try and injure someone on purpose is a cowards act and if it were on instructions from the sideline then I find that poor form.

I hate refereeing and listening to managers shouting to "take him out" I want to stop play and send the manager off, I'm sure there is some rule you could use for that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
Not first time for player in question.  You live by the sword you'll die by the sword. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 11, 2013, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
Not first time for player in question.  You live by the sword you'll die by the sword.

Your some tool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
Now now!!  No need for that you little keyboard warrior you!!!  Matty likes firing those big shoulders about and thinks cause he's big he's hard!!!   Wonder if some of dunloys real hard men from teams gone by we're still playing, would he of been as rough.  Doubt it!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 11, 2013, 06:51:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
Now now!!  No need for that you little keyboard warrior you!!!  Matty likes firing those big shoulders about and thinks cause he's big he's hard!!!   Wonder if some of dunloys real hard men from teams gone by we're still playing, would he of been as rough.  Doubt it!!

Sorry dude I thought you where refering to shorty with death by sword quote . Ill retract the tool bit. I don't think Matty has any badness in him. I think someone had them all brainwashed. Sorry again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 11, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Never got to match last night because of work. Reading on here we must have Tryed to start a war last night. I have spoke to two club men who are fairly level headed and neither can understand what all the craic is about "targeting shorty"., they claimed dunloys two corner backs targeted both Saul and clarkey off the ball on several occasions, one which started a melee. If that is not premeditated then. From what I hear shortys challenges were on the ball. Obviously they must have been rash. Both sources felt dunloy were the aggressors. But dunloy obviously are claiming otherwise. We conceded two shocking goals by all accounts, which had a big say in outcome.

I hope our lads get head down now and get hard work done. We need to be competitive come championship. Hopefully a few injuries clear up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 11, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
Not first time for player in question.  You live by the sword you'll die by the sword.

and then he says

QuoteNo need for that you little keyboard warrior you!!!

lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 11, 2013, 11:48:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 11, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
Now now!!  No need for that you little keyboard warrior you!!!  Matty likes firing those big shoulders about and thinks cause he's big he's hard!!!   Wonder if some of dunloys real hard men from teams gone by we're still playing, would he of been as rough.  Doubt it!!

Quick somebody phone Liam O'Neill in Croke Park and tell him theres some big boys playing hurling and they are tackling smaller boys!  :o

And what was the first time your referring too? Or are you just going to throw out vague references?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2013, 12:12:38 AM
It's loughgiel's fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 12, 2013, 12:21:57 AM
Ha ha.  Very good. Everyone's aloud to tackle.  Height makes no difference. But, there's a tackle and then there's what was seen as a gutless dirty stroke on a nice fella who I'd say has never hit a dirty stroke in his life!  My question was, would it have happened if it was against a harder lad?        it's all about opinions on here, mines is that it wouldn't have. For the young pacey skillful lads the town has coming threw now,  I don't see why they were trying to go down that route last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on July 12, 2013, 12:43:44 AM
Some of us have long memories and can recall Porky Boyle's hurling career being brought to an end by a despicable challenge by a Dunloy man. Was very sad to see one of Antrim's greatest taken out by someone who couldn't have laced his boots. Anyone else recall this, or maybe we should draw this discussion to a close!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2013, 12:55:37 AM
Dunloy had dirty hurlers? Never! Cushendall had dirty hurlers? Never! Ballycastle had dirty hurlers? Never! Loughgiel had dirty hurlers? Never!

Some hypocrisy on here lads. Time to wind this one down.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 12, 2013, 02:00:47 AM
Of corse everyone has them.  Wasn't getting at town personally.  The topic was brough up.  I was giving an opinion like a few before me done!  It's a discussion board.   What else is it for but someone to say something.   Someone else to disagree,  And an argument or an agreement!     ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2013, 03:54:11 AM
Argument  or discussion?

My point being, what's the point?

Kind of the same argument about Antrim hurling in general.  ;)

What's Jingo doing these days?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 12, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
Ballybredagh doing his best to deflect the discussion (with a terribly stupid and what looks like a fairly desperate response) because he doesn't like the charges inferred.

When individuals who lack 'reputation' are showing too much intent to play the man (the star player) rather than the ball it all smells a bit wiffy. That may not be the case .. but it looked strange.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 12, 2013, 01:31:03 PM
No harm to use Dunloy ones on here complaining about some hard hits in the game, but at the end of the end of the day Dunloy number 4 was the cause of that whole row that happened in the first half, also think after him getting booked he then went on to have about 4 or 5 other fouls so he was lucky to still b on the pitch, use talking about Ballycastle players being to wound up for the game , well did Dunloy number 4 go out to play hurling, not a chance because every time Saul got the ball he either skinned him or was fouled , we all like a hard game of hurling with big hits , but all Ballycastle hits were there when the ball was there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 12, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
Row didn't start until Marty tried to take shortys head off. End of. Game was completely flat till then with nothin happening.
Also Matty never even got booked. Say what you like it was a shocking challenge which he fully intended to take shorty out regardless of what 'hard men' played for dunloy lgiel cdall 10-20 years ago!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 12, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?
To be fair it wasn't. Much of a Match up until all the handbags and for about 5 mins after it. Ballycastle didn't play great IMO and struggled in their half forward line to get going.
That said I still think ballycastle have a lot more to give and have a wealth of talent at their hands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 12, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
We're did the fight start, it was in Dunloy corner back, I didn't know Matthew Donnelly was playing corner forward for us, so how can u blame his tackle when it was at the other end of the field?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on July 12, 2013, 11:39:30 PM
Skull 1. Do you recall the incident I'm referring to, late 90's early 00's, stand side in Casement. If not ask your manager, he'll recall it well. At a risk of repeating myself, a savage attack on one of Antrim's greatest. Check out the Antrim team of the century and you might understand. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 12, 2013, 11:42:29 PM
Ballycastle reaped the rewards of a 'tough' Dunloy side one year. Be grateful BallyBredagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 13, 2013, 01:04:26 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 12, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
We're did the fight start, it was in Dunloy corner back, I didn't know Matthew Donnelly was playing corner forward for us, so how can u blame his tackle when it was at the other end of the field?
Fight started after Matty tried to take shortys head off. That was te trigger that got them all angry and slapping at each other. There wasn't a bad slap before that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 13, 2013, 10:58:11 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on July 12, 2013, 11:39:30 PM
Skull 1. Do you recall the incident I'm referring to, late 90's early 00's, stand side in Casement. If not ask your manager, he'll recall it well. At a risk of repeating myself, a savage attack on one of Antrim's greatest. Check out the Antrim team of the century and you might understand.

I know exactly the incident you're talking about ballybredagh but please explain why its being used in this discussion? I fail to see the link.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on July 13, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Skull 1. Best explanation is the biblical quote; 'let he who has never sinned cast the first stone'. Matty hasn't a bad bone in his body and your lot are condemning him for the incident with Shorty. Knowing Matty, whatever happened wasn't intentional. Pretty simple link, I think!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2013, 03:39:00 PM
Glenariffe 1-15 dunloy 5-18
Good result for us considering we had only 18 players available due to holidays etc. missing 6 starting players from Wednesday nights win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on July 13, 2013, 11:43:40 PM
Skull 1. Best explanation is the biblical quote; 'let he who has never sinned cast the first stone'. Matty hasn't a bad bone in his body and your lot are condemning him for the incident with Shorty. Knowing Matty, whatever happened wasn't intentional. Pretty simple link, I think!
I know he isn't a dirty player at all. That said he put the heel of the stick into shortys face. Bad tackle end of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on July 14, 2013, 07:34:57 PM
St John's 2-13 Ballycran 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2013, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on July 14, 2013, 07:34:57 PM
St John's 2-13 Ballycran 0-14

Going steady the Johnnies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 14, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
Ballycastle 0-15 - 1-15 Loughgiel

Tight game.Loughgiel had full strength team out for perhaps the first time this year??Could have went either way in my opinion.Both teams ticking over nicely for championship where I think we will see a super semi-final between them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2013, 11:35:37 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???

I thought Cassidy was a trainer? A footballer who hadn't hurled before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 15, 2013, 01:08:51 AM
Black and Amber Boy what was wrong with what you seen today?Our senior team is as competitive as it has been for 10-15years.I think judgements like that should be left until September?But yes MR2 Cassidy is the coach and Mickey McShane manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 15, 2013, 03:05:34 AM
I have to say I wasn't at any games today but after a few texts and calls;

- St. John's were up for a big game deserved winners. Barry McFall excellent? Simon McCrory also. I think St. John's deserve great credit this year and MJ record is what it is no matter what people say.

- don't get the anti Cassidy vibe as the north Antrim pub crowd say the Town gave a good account of themselves.

- Rossa missed out on a chance for 2points moved Hamill back out to midfield left them toothless in attack looking only to mcguinness and again the usual cry babies about missing players. Sorry HS but only repeating what I heard.

- the oisins boys were victims of Dunloy strength in depth but I have to say this is not a Ganesh that will determine season - glenarrife have produced at times when needed.


Apologies everyone if this post is mere hearsay but couldn't get to any games so all of this is 2nd hand info. Sure I'm just nosey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 15, 2013, 08:22:45 AM
Black n amber boy, thats a random statement. Your comments couldn't be any further from the truth. Ridiculous. The training is first class - according to players I speak to.

Delighted with performance yesterday. Thought we were going to get the win. But overall good game and as hurler 21 says we're competitive as we have been in years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that

For our reserves?

Was he a ginger, slightly made up lad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that

For our reserves?

Was he a ginger, slightly made up lad?

Rat or something like that being called when he had the ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that

For our reserves?

Was he a ginger, slightly made up lad?

Rat or something like that being called when he had the ball

Yeah, Paddy (Rat) Coulter, he's only 35 or something like that, had a hard paper round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that

For our reserves?

Was he a ginger, slightly made up lad?

Rat or something like that being called when he had the ball

Yeah, Paddy (Rat) Coulter, he's only 35 or something like that, had a hard paper round.

Aye right, liked a wee moan. Decent young lads on that team for ya's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
Sounds like some carry on between the town and Dunloy! Two pure hurling sides from my experience!

Did portaferry beat Ballycran Johnny?

Any thoughts on the games this weekend?

Yeah Ports beat the Crans by two, but talking to a Ports legend at the weekend, reckoned the Ballycran fullforward line was as bad as he'd seen from them in years and wouldn't have looked out of place on their thirds teams. Maybe they've a load of lads away on holidays but I'd have expected them to win that one and indeed the one up in Corrigan yesterday as they're the pick of the Ards teams at the minute IMO.

El Magico is off stateside for the summer but we still managed the win up in Rossa yesterday with a decent enough scoreline. A few injuries clearing up, but without the big man we'll struggle to take points up the country. 10 points mightn't be enough in this extended league.

Be plenty Johnney, I wouldn't worry, refereed the reserve game beforehand, thon midfielder is some hurler for his age must be close to 40 and never missed to many and was on the go for 60 minutes. Love seeing that

For our reserves?

Was he a ginger, slightly made up lad?

Rat or something like that being called when he had the ball

Yeah, Paddy (Rat) Coulter, he's only 35 or something like that, had a hard paper round.

Aye right, liked a wee moan. Decent young lads on that team for ya's

They'd be even better if the wee bolloxes would put a bit more effort into their game and training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???

WTF! Cassidy is the trainer. McShane is the manager. what is wrong with their fitness? OK they got tired near the end yesterday but it was hot. If the dressing room was lost they would'nt turn up for training and I hear theis plenty at training nights. No harm but your talkin balls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on July 15, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???

WTF! Cassidy is the trainer. McShane is the manager. what is wrong with their fitness? OK they got tired near the end yesterday but it was hot. If the dressing room was lost they would'nt turn up for training and I hear theis plenty at training nights. No harm but your talkin balls.


I would question if black and amber boy is in fact a Ballycastle person. If he/she doesn't know the manager/coach set-up by now they've been under a rock for the past few years! Joe & Michael doing gr8 work with our boys and have the utmost respect for them.  Go stir shit in someone else's club u twat!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on July 15, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???

WTF! Cassidy is the trainer. McShane is the manager. what is wrong with their fitness? OK they got tired near the end yesterday but it was hot. If the dressing room was lost they would'nt turn up for training and I hear theis plenty at training nights. No harm but your talkin balls.


I would question if black and amber boy is in fact a Ballycastle person. If he/she doesn't know the manager/coach set-up by now they've been under a rock for the past few years! Joe & Michael doing gr8 work with our boys and have the utmost respect for them.  Go stir shit in someone else's club u t**t!

never thought of that. Thought maybe Joe might of cuffed his ears at school some time.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on July 15, 2013, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on July 15, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 15, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: black and amber boy on July 14, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
I have been supportive for quite a while now. But after what i watched today cassidy has to get the boot! needs to go back to teaching. He has lost the dressing room. Mickey mc shane seems to be clued in and doing a good job but maybe a change in the management team is needed. debate???

WTF! Cassidy is the trainer. McShane is the manager. what is wrong with their fitness? OK they got tired near the end yesterday but it was hot. If the dressing room was lost they would'nt turn up for training and I hear theis plenty at training nights. No harm but your talkin balls.


I would question if black and amber boy is in fact a Ballycastle person. If he/she doesn't know the manager/coach set-up by now they've been under a rock for the past few years! Joe & Michael doing gr8 work with our boys and have the utmost respect for them.  Go stir shit in someone else's club u t**t!

never thought of that. Thought maybe Joe might of cuffed his ears at school some time.  ;D

There's mileage in that theory too :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 17, 2013, 08:37:46 AM
away to ballycran this sunday, hopefully the weather holds up to make a day out of it! leaves us with just one more trip beyond belfast this year which isnt bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 17, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
Does anyone know when the Championship starts?  Had a quick look on the County site but couldn't see any fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 17, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Weekend of 31aug/1sept.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 17, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
yeah it runs all through september time.

wheres the finals being played at this year? will it still be casement or is it completly closed after tonights game v Down in the U21 game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 17, 2013, 06:35:57 PM
I think venues will depend on the participants.
Altho I wouldn't be surprised if casement is still untouched by the developers and so still available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 17, 2013, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 17, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Weekend of 31aug/1sept.

Do Loughgiel not play St Galls in the preliminary round at start of August then 1/4s are that last weekend in August???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 18, 2013, 06:30:19 AM
Correct and match is in corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 18, 2013, 08:40:02 AM
our match v Rossa is apparently at Hannastown and so is st. johns v Cdall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Sun Aug 4th
IHC 1.30PM St Endas v Gortnamona @ lamh dhearg
SHC 3.15PM St Galls v Loughgiel @ lamh dhearg

IHC 6PM Tir na nog v Clooney @ Creggan

Fri Aug 30th
JHC 7pm B Winners v Creggan @ St Teresas
JHC 7PM Shane O'neills v Glenravel @ Ballymena

Sat Aug 31st
IHC 5PM St Endas/Gortnamona v Carey
IHC 6.30PM Sarsfields v Tir na nog/Clooney @ St Endas

IHC 6.30PM Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls @ St Teresas
SHC 6.30PM Cloughmills v Louoghgiel/St Galls @ Dunloy

Sun 1st Sept
SHC 1.15PM St Johns v Cushendall @ Lamh dhearg
SHC 2.45PM Rossa v Dunloy @ Lamh dhearg

IHC 5.30PM Armoy v Rasharkin @ Cushendall
SHC 7PM Ballycastle v Glenariffe @ Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 18, 2013, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Sun Aug 4th
IHC 1.30PM St Endas v Gortnamona @ lamh dhearg
SHC 3.15PM St Galls v Loughgiel @ lamh dhearg

IHC 6PM Tir na nog v Clooney @ Creggan

Fri Aug 30th
JHC 7pm B Winners v Creggan @ St Teresas
JHC 7PM Shane O'neills v Glenravel @ Ballymena

Sat Aug 31st
IHC 5PM St Endas/Gortnamona v Carey
IHC 6.30PM Sarsfields v Tir na nog/Clooney @ St Endas

IHC 6.30PM Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls @ St Teresas
SHC 6.30PM Cloughmills v Louoghgiel/St Galls @ Dunloy

Sun 1st Sept
IHC 5.30PM Armoy v Rasharkin @ Cushendall
SHC 7PM Ballycastle v Glenariffe @ Cushendall

Culchie - where did you pick these up? Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
Thru the grapevine!

These dates, etc were known 2 weeks ago!

Dont know why we dont publicise these & let everyone know well in advance when & where games are on. telling people to check with their secretaries isnt a good enough answer i feel. i know they will be promoted the week of the championship but all it takes is for a list like that to be made public knowledge, fire them off to the papers & put up on website.
in derry they take pride in their football championship as it is the best club championship about in terms of competitiveness, but they also promote it to the hilt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 18, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
Thru the grapevine!

These dates, etc were known 2 weeks ago!

Dont know why we dont publicise these & let everyone know well in advance when & where games are on. telling people to check with their secretaries isnt a good enough answer i feel. i know they will be promoted the week of the championship but all it takes is for a list like that to be made public knowledge, fire them off to the papers & put up on website.
in derry they take pride in their football championship as it is the best club championship about in terms of competitiveness, but they also promote it to the hilt!

Completely agree Culchie.  Thanks for posting.  I have been holding off booking a holiday as I want to see a few games.  No reason why this couldn't of been uploaded on the County site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 18, 2013, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Sun Aug 4th
IHC 1.30PM St Endas v Gortnamona @ lamh dhearg
SHC 3.15PM St Galls v Loughgiel @ lamh dhearg

IHC 6PM Tir na nog v Clooney @ Creggan

Fri Aug 30th
JHC 7pm B Winners v Creggan @ St Teresas
JHC 7PM Shane O'neills v Glenravel @ Ballymena

Sat Aug 31st
IHC 5PM St Endas/Gortnamona v Carey
IHC 6.30PM Sarsfields v Tir na nog/Clooney @ St Endas

IHC 6.30PM Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls @ St Teresas
SHC 6.30PM Cloughmills v Louoghgiel/St Galls @ Dunloy

Sun 1st Sept
IHC 5.30PM Armoy v Rasharkin @ Cushendall
SHC 7PM Ballycastle v Glenariffe @ Cushendall
What about the Dunloy v Rossa & C'Dall v St Johns??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Sorry, have edited post.

As someone had said both at lamh dhearg on the sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 18, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Sorry, have edited post.

As someone had said both at lamh dhearg on the sunday.
Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 18, 2013, 03:39:23 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
Thru the grapevine!

These dates, etc were known 2 weeks ago!

Dont know why we dont publicise these & let everyone know well in advance when & where games are on. telling people to check with their secretaries isnt a good enough answer i feel. i know they will be promoted the week of the championship but all it takes is for a list like that to be made public knowledge, fire them off to the papers & put up on website.
in derry they take pride in their football championship as it is the best club championship about in terms of competitiveness, but they also promote it to the hilt!

Just the casement culture of secrecy spilling over. They can't help themselves a breaking the habit of a lifetime - we know more so we're in control mentality.
So much clandestine activity they can't recognise when open info is actually of benefit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 18, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
Sorry, have edited post.

As someone had said both at lamh dhearg on the sunday.
Will those two games be a double header? Would love to see the johnnies v cdall! Setting up to be a cracker at the min!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 21, 2013, 10:01:12 AM
Result from last night
Ballycastle 4:22 Ballygalget 1:15

Without Magic Ballygalget were a bit lost. 8 down at half time and then had a man sent off (deliberate striking I think) 10 minutes into second half.  The Town played well enough. No Pinky, Matthew or Saul so some odd positions like Clarke in centre forward. Good to see Gerard Laverty coming on as sub in second half after bein out for over a year injured and as well Michael Dallat. He did'nt look fit but good to see him back too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 21, 2013, 05:48:28 PM
Ballycran 2-17 dunloy2-17
Good game and a draw was a fair result as both teams went at it. Tough ground roger a result at all thr time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 22, 2013, 07:53:29 AM
Ruairi Og 3-19 Rossa 0-7

We played ok, 3-19 is good shooting any time but particularly without Shane Mc Naughton and Paddy Mc Gill. Rossa were terrible and on this form they have little chance of avoiding the drop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
What sort of shape is the LD pitch in?

Terrible choice of venue for two Hurling Championship matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on July 22, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
Where else would you suggest for a S Antrim venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: jdyok on July 22, 2013, 01:15:24 PM
Where else would you suggest for a S Antrim venue?

That statement itself is a sad indictment of the GAA in Belfast.

The options are poor agreed, but why put a square peg in a round hole, if there isnt a suitable venue play it where there is one.
Regardless of where that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
What sort of shape is the LD pitch in?

Terrible choice of venue for two Hurling Championship matches.

The pitch is fine, bit hard but in decent nick considering the amount of sun we've been getting, I refereed on it yesterday and my only concern would be the fence around it can be easily jumped!!  ;) Corrigan is in good shape pitch wise would be my choice to play on, or Rossa's

Would you prefer to have the games up North Antrim NAG1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
What sort of shape is the LD pitch in?

Terrible choice of venue for two Hurling Championship matches.

The pitch is fine, bit hard but in decent nick considering the amount of sun we've been getting, I refereed on it yesterday and my only concern would be the fence around it can be easily jumped!!  ;) Corrigan is in good shape pitch wise would be my choice to play on, or Rossa's

Would you prefer to have the games up North Antrim NAG1?

MR2 I am making a genuine point, these are the games that clubs and teams prepare for all year and in my opinion taking them to LD is not a good decision. It is not a hurling championship venue, there will be no atmosphere or championship feeling.

Have no objection to playing the games in Belfast as that was the way the draw was, but point is there isnt a suitable venue outside of Casement to host the games. So for that reason alone I would like to see them played where the biggest crowd possible get to see them safely and can generate a championship atmosphere.

Doesnt have to be NA Creggan would be a suitable compromise I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 02:20:31 PM
You'd get as many into Cushendall's ground as you would Lambs. Atmosphere wise hard to call as they haven't had it before. Creggan pitch is top draw in fairness but Belfast people will come to Lamhs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 22, 2013, 02:30:50 PM
The back seat in the upper hogan would be closer to the pitch ffs. No one hanging over the wire to stay with the game as there'll be no need.  It is what it is...but not much thought given to the venue other than it being a SA venue with a bit of parking space and a big fence at the roadside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 22, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
Surely Ballymena's new pitch could have been option??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on July 22, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
Surely Ballymena's new pitch could have been option??

Another decent shout, even their old pitch with the decent weather if it holds, generates a good atmosphere with the bank along the side!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 22, 2013, 04:09:01 PM
Some craic yesterday I believe in Lambs Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
Quote from: manballandall on July 22, 2013, 04:09:01 PM
Some craic yesterday I believe in Lambs Milltown?

Yeah some craic indeed, these things happen ya know, thought both teams missed a hatfull of chances and Lamhs missed more frees so all in all Lamhs just about deserved to win. Be tight now for St Paul's to get back up the league table, we play them next and based on yesterdays result (although we won) they might have a chance, Gorts lost the game in the final minutes to a couple of goals. Seems the new manager has the Midas touch ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 22, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Our county are not the greatest thinkers when setting venues. Decision to play u21 final in Ballymenas old pitch with one side of it a complete bog was some joke taking into account casement, dunloy, loughgiel were all available. Most county's set venues to maximize crowd. Taking that into account most matches involving n antrim teams should be in n antrim. Rossa and st johns are poorly supported in relative term. Cdall, dunloy will bring good support, add in others from n antrim such as lgiel, bcastle, Carey, cdun etc u wud get a big crowd. But fixing it in hannahstown will mean little or no neutrals will attend.

But our county officials don't think that way but will charge silly prices
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
Lets try and get past the venue. SA team drawn out first means its in Belfast. You won't get too many NA teams agreeing to go to Belfast (other than Casement ) Stupid discussion and really won't make a difference to the result....... :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 22, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
If your looking for a South Antrim venue for championship hurling what about Queens place? Sure does it not have a good stand and all the rest?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 22, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
Could the county not try and encourage more clubs to develop their facilities a bit further to be able to host big games? Don't agree totally with Leyland regarding most games should be played in NA. If more clubs had better facilities then there'd be a better spread of big games and I don't think that would be a bad thing. Shame there isn't a bigger number of Belfast Gaels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 22, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
If your looking for a South Antrim venue for championship hurling what about Queens place? Sure does it not have a good stand and all the rest?

Top spot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 22, 2013, 08:18:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 22, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
If your looking for a South Antrim venue for championship hurling what about Queens place? Sure does it not have a good stand and all the rest?

Top spot

Great set up, good playing surface and more car parking than Casement or Lamh Dearg.  Only downside is that it's too short.  There's only one 65' which marks the midfield I think, which I've heard is posing problems for Queens hosting the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 22, 2013, 08:18:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 22, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
If your looking for a South Antrim venue for championship hurling what about Queens place? Sure does it not have a good stand and all the rest?

Top spot

Great set up, good playing surface and more car parking than Casement or Lamh Dearg.  Only downside is that it's too short.  There's only one 65' which marks the midfield I think, which I've heard is posing problems for Queens hosting the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon next year.

Aye that's what i thought but had hoped with all the work they had done they'd extended the pitch?? Silly if they haven't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 22, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
Thats unbelievable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2013, 10:40:36 PM
Still no sign of any work in casement so I wouldn't be surprised if the games end up there anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on July 22, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 22, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
Thats unbelievable

Think GAA was an after thought in the planning and it's primarily used for soccer and rugby. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Just Puck It on July 22, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 22, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
Thats unbelievable

Think GAA was an after thought in the planning and it's primarily used for soccer and rugby.

Its perfectly suitable for football but for hurling it is definitely too small.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 24, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
Championship fixtures for 1st round are up on county website go under hurling then championship.
Only 1st round but better than nothing!

Quarter finals are weekend of 31st aug/1st sept

Semis are weekend of 14th/15th sept

SHC final is sun 29th sept.

IHC/JHC finals are both 21/22 sept.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 24, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Looking forward to September already!!! Any predictions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2013, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Looking forward to September already!!! Any predictions?

So that will be the Ulster Championship the following weekend then after the county final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2013, 03:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Looking forward to September already!!! Any predictions?

Loughgiel will beat either Dunloy or cushendall in the final.
How novel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 24, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 24, 2013, 03:03:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Looking forward to September already!!! Any predictions?

Loughgiel will beat either Dunloy or cushendall in the final.
How novel.

Still is quite novel taking into account recent history btdtgtt  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 24, 2013, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?

Who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2013, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?

Your boys will need to improve Leyland if they are even going to make a dent in them that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 25, 2013, 09:53:51 AM
There you go, a full list of championship fixtures & dates up on county website!!

Took a while but they got there, better than saying check with your club secretary lol

For a while there i thought that the office in casement had closed already for redevelopment lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 25, 2013, 12:18:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2013, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?

Your boys will need to improve Leyland if they are even going to make a dent in them that's for sure.

I certainly agree, but u can add dunloy to that as wel as all the other teams. No one to touch shams on what I've seen this season. We know wer not going to win a championship, but I can guarantee we will be competitive. We will get there eventually.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 25, 2013, 12:22:06 PM
In my opinion there is only a puck of a ball between Loughgiel, Ballycastle, Dunloy and Cushendall.

Honestly believe any of the four could win it this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 25, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
I think there's more than just the puck of a ball between them - especially when it comes to championship hurling.

Ballycastle might need to lose one before they win one.

Cushendall have an impressive line-up but haven't produced it lately - Dunloy seem to rise to championship as a team.

Loughgiel have the whole package & pedigree over the past few years - justifiable favourites and I don't see anybody beating them.
Although we didnt have to wait long for the annual shamrocks injury scares before games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 25, 2013, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2013, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?

Your boys will need to improve Leyland if they are even going to make a dent in them that's for sure.

Ballycastle put a brave dent in them in the feis  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 25, 2013, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 25, 2013, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 25, 2013, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: Leyland on July 24, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
I'd say big pj was only one getting an email from county board regarding dates for Ulster club. It's there's to lose in my honest opinion. Loughgiel will win their 4th in a row beating cushendall in a feisty encounter. The rest are making up numbers.

On another note I heard that there was an injury concern in shamrocks camp. Any truth?

Your boys will need to improve Leyland if they are even going to make a dent in them that's for sure.

Would they not have been better keeping their powder dry for later in the year when it counts?
Mabye have just given LG the necessary wake up call before the big day! Only speculating  ;)

Ballycastle put a brave dent in them in the feis  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 25, 2013, 06:43:02 PM
No doubt loughguile r the favourites , but as we have seen they r beatable and the only team so far to do it this year is us, our side will get there maybe not this year but its coming and loughguile team is getting on abit now, no dout they have a great panel but I couldn't see many of there reserves breaking into a senior championship team, we will all just have to wait till September and lets hope these two teams make it to the semi finals cause it's the game everyone wants to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2013, 10:06:45 PM
Antrim league.

Dunloy 2-24 glenariffe 2-10
Not a bad game, bit dead but the aul muggy heat made it warm work for both sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Ballycastle must be favourites for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Ballycastle must be favourites for the championship in a few years time.

Fixed that for you SIE  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Ballycastle must be favourites for the championship in a few years time.

Fixed that for you SIE  ;D
sure they bate us in the feis. Championship is as good as won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Ballycastle must be favourites for the championship in a few years time.

Fixed that for you SIE  ;D
sure they bate us in the feis. Championship is as good as won.

They certainly did and deserved to as well but they were playin close to the top of there game and youse had'nt  got them extra gears yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 07:50:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM
Ballycastle must be favourites for the championship in a few years time.

Fixed that for you SIE  ;D
sure they bate us in the feis. Championship is as good as won.

They certainly did and deserved to as well but they were playin close to the top of there game and youse had'nt  got them extra gears yet.
its getting to that exiting time of the year again. I can't wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 28, 2013, 06:12:18 PM
Was at Rossa Ballycran today - altho spent more time looking over my shoulder at St. Paul's v galls!

Disappointing loss for galls - no offence intended to St. Paul's but I think the succeeded in dragging the game down in terms of stifling galls better players. I say no offence because it seemed that's what won the game. Through a fence mind you!

As for Rossa - shocking. They are like a bunch that have never met each other before. Looking to Shannon McGuinness and Beattie as county players - not on this evidence. Hamill should have been sent off twice for striking.

Anyone hear news of the young minor that was injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 28, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
St Johns 1-12 Shamrocks 1-21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 29, 2013, 10:08:08 AM
Was looking at what games are left. We have cdall home and away, ballygalget away and ballycran at home.
This time last year the league games would of have been wrapped up, the extra games didn't make too much of a difference.
That said we had 4 games in a 2 week period which was silly. 

So now it's getting near the business end of the season and I'm looking forward to it. This championship has the potential for a few shocks tho I can't see one this weekend when lgiel play. Should win handy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on July 29, 2013, 04:01:21 PM
There will be no shock this weekend sadly....promotion is still our aim and even that will be tough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 29, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
Think you will be fine for promotion for sure!
Especially with two up & two down!

Can't see any shocks at all in this years championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 29, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
That's the thing about shocks, no one sees them coming.  ;)

St. Galls will not be taken lightly in Loughgiel. They were the last team to cause a big shock in the championship. And, apart from a messed up poc out, they could have caused another one in the very next game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 29, 2013, 09:25:21 PM
Prelimanary Round
Loughgiel v St Galls - Loughgiel by 13

Quarter Finals
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 5

Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Semi Finals

Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 2

Loughgiel v Ballycastle - Loughgiel by 5

Final

Dunloy v Loughgiel - either team to win by 1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 29, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
I agree with most of that slicker except I actually expect wider margins in the Dunloy/Rossa & town/oisins games.

Dunloy v cushendall will be toss of a coin.

Winners will lose to the shamrocks no matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 29, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
I think both teams may underestimate their opponents and have to turn it on in the second half to get the win.

That's if it is not too late by then.

It's championship, it will be closer than you think btdtgtt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 29, 2013, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 29, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
I think both teams may underestimate their opponents and have to turn it on in the second half to get the win.

That's if it is not too late by then.

It's championship, it will be closer than you think btdtgtt!

Yes I understand that's normally the case but I think the gap between the good the bad and the ugly has grown larger.
1)loughgiel
2) dall & Dunloy
4) ballycastle
Then a gap to
5) St. John's
Then another gap to
6) oisins Rossa and galls
Then another gap to
7) cloughmills

I just don't think championship is enough to close the gaps anymore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 30, 2013, 12:04:55 AM
Went down to the ballycastle v cushendall game te night. Left it with about two to go am cdall were 3-15 to 2-12 up. Cdall got the goals and they killed bcastle ESP the one before half time.
Good win for the fall missing Neil mc manus and no Shane either I noticed. Also Karl mc Keelan off at half time.
Ballycastle didn't play well and from what I've seen they will struggle to run lgiel close assuming they beat glenariffe that is. Don't understand this tactic of maty starting at full back and then into centre three quarters. He never does anything when this happens. He's a defender and a good one at that. Should play him in defence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 30, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey

Lol...do Ballycastle keep a bit extra in the tank just for Loughgiel?

Nice to know we are so highly regarded!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2013, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey

I would be checking that tank for holes.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 30, 2013, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey
ive seen use more than once this year, 4 times infact, and seen lgiel a few times as well. i know the old phrase that championship hurling is completly different but sometimes you have to look at what you see and make that judgment. from what ive seen of ballycastle loughgiel will be far too strong.

Ballycastle at the start of the year were the team i fancied to be a real dark horse and cause a few problems but as the year has panned out they havent build on last years form and U21 win. losing Cormac for the long term is a big blow as well and young Saul suspended doesnt help either.

thats what ive based my post on, not blind judgement or reading paper results. last nights game was poor, and cdall were missing Neil and Shane who would have caused more bother for the town had they played. too many high aimless balls were played into the towns forwards and only when they decided to play low fast ball in did it cause any bother for the cdall back line, but the damage had already been done by the daft goals they conceeded. its not all gloom thought, i want use to beat lgiel!!! lol

also i will worry about Rossa for the time being, beating them will be tough enough.  :)

i still see lgiel as big favourites, and righly so, for the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on July 30, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 30, 2013, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey
ive seen use more than once this year, 4 times infact, and seen lgiel a few times as well. i know the old phrase that championship hurling is completly different but sometimes you have to look at what you see and make that judgment. from what ive seen of ballycastle loughgiel will be far too strong.

Ballycastle at the start of the year were the team i fancied to be a real dark horse and cause a few problems but as the year has panned out they havent build on last years form and U21 win. losing Cormac for the long term is a big blow as well and young Saul suspended doesnt help either.

thats what ive based my post on, not blind judgement or reading paper results. last nights game was poor, and cdall were missing Neil and Shane who would have caused more bother for the town had they played. too many high aimless balls were played into the towns forwards and only when they decided to play low fast ball in did it cause any bother for the cdall back line, but the damage had already been done by the daft goals they conceeded. its not all gloom thought, i want use to beat lgiel!!! lol

also i will worry about Rossa for the time being, beating them will be tough enough.  :)

i still see lgiel as big favourites, and righly so, for the title.

I agree there DR. I don't think we have much improvement to come and the Shams will be startin to motor. They could give us a thumpin. Cormac has been a big loss. Our defence is all over the place. Where was Gerard Laverty last night. Is he injured again? and Michael Dallat came on late but he is'nt anywhere like fit. Disapointing again. Clarke and McAfee are very talented but that team last night had 3/4 passengers and Glenarriffe will be trouble enough before we think about the Shams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 30, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on July 30, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 30, 2013, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey
ive seen use more than once this year, 4 times infact, and seen lgiel a few times as well. i know the old phrase that championship hurling is completly different but sometimes you have to look at what you see and make that judgment. from what ive seen of ballycastle loughgiel will be far too strong.

Ballycastle at the start of the year were the team i fancied to be a real dark horse and cause a few problems but as the year has panned out they havent build on last years form and U21 win. losing Cormac for the long term is a big blow as well and young Saul suspended doesnt help either.

thats what ive based my post on, not blind judgement or reading paper results. last nights game was poor, and cdall were missing Neil and Shane who would have caused more bother for the town had they played. too many high aimless balls were played into the towns forwards and only when they decided to play low fast ball in did it cause any bother for the cdall back line, but the damage had already been done by the daft goals they conceeded. its not all gloom thought, i want use to beat lgiel!!! lol

also i will worry about Rossa for the time being, beating them will be tough enough.  :)

i still see lgiel as big favourites, and righly so, for the title.

I agree there DR. I don't think we have much improvement to come and the Shams will be startin to motor. They could give us a thumpin. Cormac has been a big loss. Our defence is all over the place. Where was Gerard Laverty last night. Is he injured again? and Michael Dallat came on late but he is'nt anywhere like fit. Disapointing again. Clarke and McAfee are very talented but that team last night had 3/4 passengers and Glenarriffe will be trouble enough before we think about the Shams.

In all honesty a total shambles at the moment, lost players to working away without the squad to cover. Will be a walk over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
There is no doubt it will be tough, Gearld Laverty wasn't there because he is away working and isn't back to the end of August , there is no doubt that if the management and players don't sort it out quick loughguile could thump us, as for Saul he will b back again for the loughguile match next wen nite, need to sort out half back line out it was a joke last nite and management never changed it and I think cdall seen the weak link in there and took advantage of it very well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 30, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
A lot of people are rather quick to put the boot into Ballycastle.ie our own support. I still think that there isn't much between Loughgiel,Cushendall,Ballycastle and Dunloy.St Johns have supposedly got Dinny Cahill up so could be a banana skin there. Ballycastle were poor last night I agree but now is the time to try things out and I think that happened last night. Our biggest worry should be getting young McLister back to fitness.

SIE loughgiel favourites and I don't thin anyone in Ballycastle would argue otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
A lot of people are rather quick to put the boot into Ballycastle.ie our own support. I still think that there isn't much between Loughgiel,Cushendall,Ballycastle and Dunloy.St Johns have supposedly got Dinny Cahill up so could be a banana skin there. Ballycastle were poor last night I agree but now is the time to try things out and I think that happened last night. Our biggest worry should be getting young McLister back to fitness.

SIE loughgiel favourites and I don't thin anyone in Ballycastle would argue otherwise.
I don't know about that, you know what happens when your boys see that red shirt. Plus yous bate us in the feis. All the evidence suggests a ballycastle win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2013, 11:09:01 PM
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SIE is well edumacated don't ya know  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 30, 2013, 11:41:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
A lot of people are rather quick to put the boot into Ballycastle.ie our own support. I still think that there isn't much between Loughgiel,Cushendall,Ballycastle and Dunloy.St Johns have supposedly got Dinny Cahill up so could be a banana skin there. Ballycastle were poor last night I agree but now is the time to try things out and I think that happened last night. Our biggest worry should be getting young McLister back to fitness.

SIE loughgiel favourites and I don't thin anyone in Ballycastle would argue otherwise.
I don't know about that, you know what happens when your boys see that red shirt. Plus yous bate us in the feis. All the evidence suggests a ballycastle win.
Dear oh dear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2013, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Sun Aug 4th
IHC 1.30PM St Endas v Gortnamona @ lamh dhearg
SHC 3.15PM St Galls v Loughgiel @ lamh dhearg

IHC 6PM Tir na nog v Clooney @ Creggan

Fri Aug 30th
JHC 7pm B Winners v Creggan @ St Teresas
JHC 7PM Shane O'neills v Glenravel @ Ballymena

Sat Aug 31st
IHC 5PM St Endas/Gortnamona v Carey
IHC 6.30PM Sarsfields v Tir na nog/Clooney @ St Endas

IHC 6.30PM Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls @ St Teresas
SHC 6.30PM Cloughmills v Louoghgiel/St Galls @ Dunloy

Sun 1st Sept
SHC 1.15PM St Johns v Cushendall @ Lamh dhearg
SHC 2.45PM Rossa v Dunloy @ Lamh dhearg

IHC 5.30PM Armoy v Rasharkin @ Cushendall
SHC 7PM Ballycastle v Glenariffe @ Cushendall

Fella told me there this evening the Loughgiel/Galls v Cloughmills match now down for the Friday 30th night in Dunloy rather than the Saturday.

Will the McGourtys be back for St Galls MR2?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2013, 11:59:03 PM
Quote from: Glensman on July 30, 2013, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on July 18, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
As admin on county website wont point anyone in any direction to find championship fixtures or dates here it is as far as i know this is correct times may change slightly:

Sun Aug 4th
IHC 1.30PM St Endas v Gortnamona @ lamh dhearg
SHC 3.15PM St Galls v Loughgiel @ lamh dhearg

IHC 6PM Tir na nog v Clooney @ Creggan

Fri Aug 30th
JHC 7pm B Winners v Creggan @ St Teresas
JHC 7PM Shane O'neills v Glenravel @ Ballymena

Sat Aug 31st
IHC 5PM St Endas/Gortnamona v Carey
IHC 6.30PM Sarsfields v Tir na nog/Clooney @ St Endas

IHC 6.30PM Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls @ St Teresas
SHC 6.30PM Cloughmills v Louoghgiel/St Galls @ Dunloy

Sun 1st Sept
SHC 1.15PM St Johns v Cushendall @ Lamh dhearg
SHC 2.45PM Rossa v Dunloy @ Lamh dhearg

IHC 5.30PM Armoy v Rasharkin @ Cushendall
SHC 7PM Ballycastle v Glenariffe @ Cushendall

Fella told me there this evening the Loughgiel/Galls v Cloughmills match now down for the Friday 30th night in Dunloy rather than the Saturday.

Will the McGourtys be back for St Galls MR2?

No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2013, 12:06:10 AM
Where are they and why MR2?
Altho I'm still thinking more of promotion being the priority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 31, 2013, 03:19:49 AM
Championship is priority for every club.  Or should be.  There have been a few clubs won championships and been relegated over the years.  Surely the galls would rather make a championship final than gain promotion,  MR2 loves his playing down remember :D
I'd imagine they will have a full squad and ready to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 31, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
A lot of people are rather quick to put the boot into Ballycastle.ie our own support. I still think that there isn't much between Loughgiel,Cushendall,Ballycastle and Dunloy.St Johns have supposedly got Dinny Cahill up so could be a banana skin there. Ballycastle were poor last night I agree but now is the time to try things out and I think that happened last night. Our biggest worry should be getting young McLister back to fitness.

SIE loughgiel favourites and I don't thin anyone in Ballycastle would argue otherwise.
I don't know about that, you know what happens when your boys see that red shirt. Plus yous bate us in the feis. All the evidence suggests a ballycastle win.

Hold on a momment here! we diny like that red jersery more!!  >:(  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 31, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 31, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 30, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2013, 09:04:45 PM
A lot of people are rather quick to put the boot into Ballycastle.ie our own support. I still think that there isn't much between Loughgiel,Cushendall,Ballycastle and Dunloy.St Johns have supposedly got Dinny Cahill up so could be a banana skin there. Ballycastle were poor last night I agree but now is the time to try things out and I think that happened last night. Our biggest worry should be getting young McLister back to fitness.

SIE loughgiel favourites and I don't thin anyone in Ballycastle would argue otherwise.
I don't know about that, you know what happens when your boys see that red shirt. Plus yous bate us in the feis. All the evidence suggests a ballycastle win.

Hold on a momment here! we diny like that red jersery more!!  >:(  ::)
I'm just going by what has been posted before DR.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on August 02, 2013, 01:28:20 PM
Does Darren Quinn not play for Dunloy anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 02, 2013, 01:28:20 PM
Does Darren Quinn not play for Dunloy anymore?

In Oz AFAIK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 02, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
Anyone know what's going on with Winker? Seemed he was having some form of meltdown on Twitter last night. Playing or what's going on there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
You not read his column? is that not enough to keep his celebrity going?   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
You not read his column? is that not enough to keep his celebrity going?   ::)
the same could be said about a couple of lads over the mountain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
You not read his column? is that not enough to keep his celebrity going?   ::)
the same could be said about a couple of lads over the mountain.

What could be said SIE?

I was merely referring the fact that most of us are tired of the circus around him and 'his' column never mind started to worry about his twitter account. Starting to remind me very much of a ex Antrim footballer with a similar opinion of himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)

Dont think someone made a reference to any one from Cushendall's twitter account?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)

Dont think someone made a reference to any one from Cushendall's twitter account?
no, but you did mention his column.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 02, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
Any truth in the rumour that the messiah has left the building?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:09:58 PM
You'll find out on Sunday.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 02, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 02, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
Any truth in the rumour that the messiah has left the building?

Sure its time he spat a dummy. nobody talking about him, no TV interviews.what the hell is wrong with people. time to devote some air time for the special one. Don t they know if hes not getting the diva treatment he might even turn on his own. There has to be a medical term for his condition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Same suspects, same tripe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 02, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Same suspects, same tripe.

same subject for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 02, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Same suspects, same tripe.

same subject for some reason.
yep, you all seem to love posting tripe about him. Sure why bother with facts. Eh?

He's out until the weekend after next. Ankle injury. Simple as that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 02, 2013, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 02, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Same suspects, same tripe.

same subject for some reason.
yep, you all seem to love posting tripe about him. Sure why bother with facts. Eh?

He's out until the weekend after next. Ankle injury. Simple as that.
wind your neck in its a bit of crack. sure he leaves himself wide open for this stuff. Great hurler though, I would put him in Antrims current top ten no problems. now that big hippys of the radar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2013, 06:04:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 02, 2013, 10:55:14 PM
Ffs lads, do yis ever get off his case?
public enemy number 1 hs.  You'd think he'd murdered somebody, or smashed somebody else's award in a drunken jealousy fit, or falsely accused another player of spitting at him on the field of play the way he's maligned on here. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 03, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
Serious reaction to a simple question!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2013, 09:33:33 AM
There was a few rumours going around about Watson...I know only rumours but then you add that to his tweets then that adds to it. I also don't think his ankle is hurt. May be true may not true...just a couple of people asking a question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2013, 09:51:15 AM
Look it's simple, he's afraid of meeting the Milltown Row boys, heard that I might just get the boots back on again and give him the run around. Move on he'll no doubt be playing when it matters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2013, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2013, 09:51:15 AM
Look it's simple, he's afraid of meeting the Milltown Row boys, heard that I might just get the boots back on again and give him the run around. Move on he'll no doubt be playing when it matters
Exactly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 03, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)

Dont think someone made a reference to any one from Cushendall's twitter account?
no, but you did mention his column.
Do either of these boys actually "write" the column?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2013, 09:33:33 AM
There was a few rumours going around about Watson...I know only rumours but then you add that to his tweets then that adds to it. I also don't think his ankle is hurt. May be true may not true...just a couple of people asking a question.
more rumour mongering I'm afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 03, 2013, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 03, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)

Dont think someone made a reference to any one from Cushendall's twitter account?
no, but you did mention his column.
Do either of these boys actually "write" the column?

I would suspect Anthony like the rest of them a 'Ghost writer' would be in operation

all a little media hungry and every club has their golden boys

hear there is one in Belfast though who likes to go to the bar or cafes so he can show people he is writing his column.  Reckon he would pick up the Award for Biggest !!!! and there would be no lack of people to smash it to (even within his own club)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 03, 2013, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 03, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 02, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
You'd nearly think there were never any Dall players in the press.  ::)

Dont think someone made a reference to any one from Cushendall's twitter account?
no, but you did mention his column.
Do either of these boys actually "write" the column?

I would suspect Anthony like the rest of them a 'Ghost writer' would be in operation

all a little media hungry and every club has their golden boys

hear there is one in Belfast though who likes to go to the bar or cafes so he can show people he is writing his column.  Reckon he would pick up the Award for Biggest !!!! and there would be no lack of people to smash it to (even within his own club)

Seriously? Who'd that be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2013, 01:53:19 AM
Lads, time for the oul jealousy to take a back seat. Concentrate on your own clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2013, 09:43:21 AM
To be fair SIE I was told that story as well by a friend who's involved in the lgiel set up. It's up to him what he does
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2013, 09:43:21 AM
To be fair SIE I was told that story as well by a friend who's involved in the lgiel set up. It's up to him what he does
he'll be playing next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
Great conditions for the game today. May the best team win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
Loughgiel 3-14 to 1-5  up at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2013, 04:44:27 PM
Ft shamrocks 3-27 st galls 2-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
Ballygalget 0-11 dunloy 1-20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on August 04, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
Did Loughgiel hit top gear or were St Galls poor?Did Watson make an appearance in the endup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 04, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
Did Loughgiel hit top gear or were St Galls poor?Did Watson make an appearance in the endup?

We played well for first 5 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 04, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 04, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
Did Loughgiel hit top gear or were St Galls poor?Did Watson make an appearance in the endup?

We played well for first 5 mins
It's always important to get off to a good start :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 04, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 04, 2013, 08:10:35 PM
Did Loughgiel hit top gear or were St Galls poor?Did Watson make an appearance in the endup?

We played well for first 5 mins
It's always important to get off to a good start :)

Couldn't complain about the rest, Loughgiel Div 1 and doing really well we are Div 2 and doing enough to stay on course for the league. Can't put a positive spin on this at all and didn't think we'd be 20 points on them having see us play and Loughgiel play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 05, 2013, 09:46:24 AM
8 turned out for u21 training at the weekend, Wexford match going to be good craic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on August 05, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 05, 2013, 09:46:24 AM
8 turned out for u21 training at the weekend, Wexford match going to be good craic.

Thats a farce. I would be quite content if we didn't bother entering minor u21 and senior championship inter county. A complete shambles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 06, 2013, 11:19:56 AM
Apart from being handy for MR, how was LD as a Championship venue on Sunday.? Fair opinions now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 06, 2013, 11:19:56 AM
Apart from being handy for MR, how was LD as a Championship venue on Sunday.? Fair opinions now

The pitch was in great nick, weather was great which helped and was well marshalled. Showers were seriously to hot, would lif your skin but you country lads wouldn't worry about showering ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 06, 2013, 11:30:38 AM
Pitch looked fine in my opinion although appeared a bit short.  Very little distance between the two 65's.

The grass bank on one side is good for viewing but I'd say it could be treacherous on a wet day.  No raised bank on the pavilion side not ideal.

My biggest gripe was the fact that they had no scoreboard which is not ideal for a championship game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 06, 2013, 11:30:38 AM
Pitch looked fine in my opinion although appeared a bit short.  Very little distance between the two 65's.

The grass bank on one side is good for viewing but I'd say it could be treacherous on a wet day.  No raised bank on the pavilion side not ideal.

My biggest gripe was the fact that they had no scoreboard which is not ideal for a championship game.

Yeah I think that's important, most banks are treacherous on wet days. the grass was short, extra half inch would have been better (so she says!!lol)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 06, 2013, 11:41:08 AM
reckon Ballycastle would be good venue for the final this year as it can take a good crowd with excellent vantage points for vast majority of spectators

and in the unlikely event of the town making the final I would let it go ahead there anyway to give them every advantage

any idea of where final venue is

hopefully not casement

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 06, 2013, 11:49:48 AM
Most likely venues are Ballycastle and Loughgiel if not played in Casement.

Given the time of year the hurling final will be played the elements could play a significant factor n the final (particularly it its a stormy day in Ballycastle).  Casement was slightly sheltered from the wind but I have been to quite a few games in Ballycastle which are ruined by the strong wind that blows down the pitch.  You spend one half defending for your life and trying to sneak the odd score and the other half trying to capitalise on the wind advantage.  Loughgiel slightly more sheltered but not as much as Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 06, 2013, 11:52:21 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 06, 2013, 11:41:08 AM
reckon Ballycastle would be good venue for the final this year as it can take a good crowd with excellent vantage points for vast majority of spectators

and in the unlikely event of the town making the final I would let it go ahead there anyway to give them every advantage

any idea of where final venue is

hopefully not casement

I would imagine if they are planning the opening matches in LD (my opinion on this already aired) that Casement must be ruled out for the year.

I would say Ballycastle is the logical place for the final but yet again it is another venue that seems to lack a big game atmosphere, also has anyone ever played in it without a breeze blowing across the pitch. Be a shame for two teams to work all year to get to a final for it to be destroyed by a breeze.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 06, 2013, 11:56:10 AM
Personally if Casement is not available I would like to see it in Loughgiel (although I hope this isn't an option as we are in the final) or Dunloy as I think they would be the best venues.

I'd imagine though that it will either be Loughgiel / Ballycastle dependent upon which one gets to the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2013, 11:57:43 AM
Even on the old pitch it blew a gale I've played on the new ones and they are the same. Best venue though in terms of ability to watch game, Dunloy's also in with a shout. Have never really played a match that was blowing a gale in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 06, 2013, 01:02:44 PM
I'd like it played in Dunloy, that is if the neighbours aren't in final.   Great atmosphere around the ground.   If we don't make final am sure it will be in loughgiel.   Ballycastles pitch would ruin it like someone had said.  Full blown Gale 80% of the time. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
If Loughgiel v Dunloy then in Ballycastle.
If loughgiel v Cushendall then in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 06, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
If its not in casement - then a loughgiel vs Dunloy/dall final will be in ballycastle don't think there's any doubt about that.
Unless the teams involved want to toss!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2013, 08:40:57 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 06, 2013, 01:02:44 PM
I'd like it played in Dunloy, that is if the neighbours aren't in final.   Great atmosphere around the ground.   If we don't make final am sure it will be in loughgiel.   Ballycastles pitch would ruin it like someone had said.  Full blown Gale 80% of the time.
agree totally. ive been at 3 games this season at ballycastle and the wind has dominated a half each time ive been there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2013, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 07, 2013, 08:40:57 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 06, 2013, 01:02:44 PM
I'd like it played in Dunloy, that is if the neighbours aren't in final.   Great atmosphere around the ground.   If we don't make final am sure it will be in loughgiel.   Ballycastles pitch would ruin it like someone had said.  Full blown Gale 80% of the time.
agree totally. ive been at 3 games this season at ballycastle and the wind has dominated a half each time ive been there.

Correct me if I am wrong maybe it has turned into legend now, did Dunloy and Loughgiel not toss for home advantage one year in the earlier rounds of the championship with Loughgiel winning and choosing to play it in Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
I think the toss of a coin is used commonly in the south.
If the two clubs are happy with it then the county shouldn't stand in the way - providing both grounds are suitable obviously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on August 07, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
If Ballycastle isn't in the final why wouldn't they get it, sure they won the best ground in ulster and have far better parking facilities than everywhere else, but hopefully the town will b in the final lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2013, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on August 07, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
If Ballycastle isn't in the final why wouldn't they get it, sure they won the best ground in ulster and have far better parking facilities than everywhere else, but hopefully the town will b in the final lol

I hope the town are in the final as well  ;) But the fact remains that while the ground remains great, pitch is decent, car parking is adequate, it is not a championship atmosphere ground. It also does have issues with the wind. Is it fair for two teams to train all year for a county final for it to be played in those types of conditions which are prevalent in Ballycastle.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on August 07, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
And presumably those windmills in Corkey are powered by..................................???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on August 07, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
And presumably those windmills in Corkey are powered by..................................???

Are we really comparing the exposure of Corkey mountain and Fr Healy Park?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2013, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on August 07, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
And presumably those windmills in Corkey are powered by..................................???
you ever been in either ground???????? ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2013, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on August 07, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
If Ballycastle isn't in the final why wouldn't they get it, sure they won the best ground in ulster and have far better parking facilities than everywhere else, but hopefully the town will b in the final lol
the wind.   Like we've been saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on August 07, 2013, 01:34:35 PM
Sleeping giant, yes I've been in both grounds. Why?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:26:02 PM
The order of preference for Antrim hurling fixtures, as per my understanding is:

1. Casement
2. Loughgiel
3. Ballycastle

Whilst (almost) everyone acknowledges that Ballycaste is far from ideal due to the weather concerns ruining the game I'd say the loser of the Loughgiel v Ballycastle semi final game (barring upsets) will host the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
Takeyourpoint - if your argument is that Loughgiel's pitch is as prevalent to strong winds as Ballycastles then I think you're wrong by quite a distance. 

No one is having a dig at your club, we are merely stating facts that games have a tendency to be severely influenced by the elements at your pitch.

Are there stormy days in Loughgiel, Dunloy, Casement?  Yes, but those pitches are not as exposed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:26:02 PM
The order of preference for Antrim hurling fixtures, as per my understanding is:

1. Casement
2. Loughgiel
3. Ballycastle

Whilst (almost) everyone acknowledges that Ballycaste is far from ideal due to the weather concerns ruining the game I'd say the loser of the Loughgiel v Ballycastle semi final game (barring upsets) will host the final.

I would imagine that since it is outside of Casement both clubs would have to be consulted on the choice of county final venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 07, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:26:02 PM
The order of preference for Antrim hurling fixtures, as per my understanding is:

1. Casement
2. Loughgiel
3. Ballycastle

Whilst (almost) everyone acknowledges that Ballycaste is far from ideal due to the weather concerns ruining the game I'd say the loser of the Loughgiel v Ballycastle semi final game (barring upsets) will host the final.

I would imagine that since it is outside of Casement both clubs would have to be consulted on the choice of county final venue?

You would imagine the views of both clubs being taken board as the logical approach in this scenario.  We are however dealing with the Antrim County Board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2013, 02:44:49 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 07, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
Takeyourpoint - if your argument is that Loughgiel's pitch is as prevalent to strong winds as Ballycastles then I think you're wrong by quite a distance. 

No one is having a dig at your club, we are merely stating facts that games have a tendency to be severely influenced by the elements at your pitch.

Are there stormy days in Loughgiel, Dunloy, Casement?  Yes, but those pitches are not as exposed.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on August 07, 2013, 04:02:22 PM
Well I know 1 thing is that if Dunloy get into the final they would kick up a fuss if it was in Ballycastle because they have never win a semi final up here never mind a final, even at that if we get the other semi final Dunloy will prob want it changed , but we all know what county r like so god knows were any of the matches will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
You would imagine the county would consult clubs - but this is Antrim!
I suppose we can wait until the finalist are decided and it'll all become clear.

I'm off up to Rossa park tonite - they play portaferry.
Last chance for some points or pack the bags HS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 07, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
You would imagine the county would consult clubs - but this is Antrim!
I suppose we can wait until the finalist are decided and it'll all become clear.

I'm off up to Rossa park tonite - they play portaferry.
Last chance for some points or pack the bags HS!

We've the johnnies down tonight, only the one team, but they may just sneak a win as although we've a few lads back from Sunday, we may still be short in options up the field when scores are required..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
So the two semi finals  are on the same night by all accounts.  Not like the county board at all.  Surely one sat evening and one Sunday would of got good crowds at both,  for once they haven't thought of the gate.  And as usual there not thinking of clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
That's goodnight for Rossa hardstation!
Great game tho!

A draw a fair result in the end - great game to watch.

I don't think there was ever more than a couple of points in it to either team. Final score was 22 or 23 points a piece. Says it all!

On the whole I felt Rossa seemed to battle hard for their scores whilst the ports seemed to pick of easier points - read into that what you will.

Puck outs were a big point - portaferry had the upper hand here. They had strong forwards winning possession while Rossa were a bit lighter.

For Rossa - bell & Hamill are the only players who seem to force the game. Whilst Michael Armstrong was best up front. Shannon also had a good game.
For the ports - branniff is a great player and was their go to man - not sure the other number11 johnnycool - a big fella was also winning ball.

All in all in was a smashing game of hurling - a result that suits the ards men more than Rossa I think!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 07, 2013, 10:02:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
That's goodnight for Rossa hardstation!
Great game tho!

A draw a fair result in the end - great game to watch.

I don't think there was ever more than a couple of points in it to either team. Final score was 22 or 23 points a piece. Says it all!

On the whole I felt Rossa seemed to battle hard for their scores whilst the ports seemed to pick of easier points - read into that what you will.

Puck outs were a big point - portaferry had the upper hand here. They had strong forwards winning possession while Rossa were a bit lighter.

For Rossa - bell & Hamill are the only players who seem to force the game. Whilst Michael Armstrong was best up front. Shannon also had a good game.
For the ports - branniff is a great player and was their go to man - not sure the other number11 johnnycool - a big fella was also winning ball.

All in all in was a smashing game of hurling - a result that suits the ards men more than Rossa I think!

They only need to win one game to go above Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 10:10:21 PM
Has it not been confirmed if it is 2 down or not?

If not then it could be a very valuable point for Rossa, who i thought were unlucky tonight not to get the win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 07, 2013, 10:16:24 PM
Big result for us tonight beating Dunloy. On a nice roll at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 07, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG

Both interesting results? any game reports ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 07, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
Cushendall dominated the first half, Alex Delargy was excellent with 3 points from play. Dunloy came well into it in the second half and closed the gap to 2 on one occasion but could never get closer than that. Ryan Mc Cambridge went onto Shorty after about ten minutes and did well on him. Dunloy forwards wern't great, Shorty from frees did the most of their scoring. I think he got about 1-8 or 1-9 from frees. Referee allowed Dunloy away with a savage amount of over carrying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 07, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG

Both interesting results? any game reports ?

Interesting indeed!  But according to all critics we're not even on the radar!  Beat them once, drew with them once and beat by them by only couple of points.  Our lads had unbelievably ropey first half and to come away with a draw is more than heartening.  They fought for all they were worth in the second half and deserved the draw at the very least.  At the end of normal time the Town were two points clear.  Jackie Carson played for the draw without a shadow of a doubt.  But hey.......we'll settle for the draw and see what Championship brings!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 07, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG

Both interesting results? any game reports ?

Interesting indeed!  But according to all critics we're not even on the radar!  Beat them once, drew with them once and beat by them by only couple of points.  Our lads had unbelievably ropey first half and to come away with a draw is more than heartening.  They fought for all they were worth in the second half and deserved the draw at the very least.  At the end of normal time the Town were two points clear. Jackie Carson played for the draw without a shadow of a doubt.  But hey.......we'll settle for the draw and see what Championship brings!!

What a load of balls, played for a draw? Hmmm how do you do that? as a referee?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 07, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG

Both interesting results? any game reports ?

Interesting indeed!  But according to all critics we're not even on the radar!  Beat them once, drew with them once and beat by them by only couple of points.  Our lads had unbelievably ropey first half and to come away with a draw is more than heartening.  They fought for all they were worth in the second half and deserved the draw at the very least.  At the end of normal time the Town were two points clear. Jackie Carson played for the draw without a shadow of a doubt.  But hey.......we'll settle for the draw and see what Championship brings!!

What a load of balls, played for a draw? Hmmm how do you do that? as a referee?

To the referees defence as anticipated......How can you comment as you weren't even there!  You've expressed your views numerous times before and weren't responded to by 'load of balls'.  My opinion......and entitled to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
Load of balls indeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 08, 2013, 12:06:40 AM
2 up & 2 down in hurling league. I don't see Rossa gettin any more points minder - they don't travel well and still rely to much on old hands. Ports may escape that's ur oisins biggest threat.
Only issue I have with that is are st galls & sarsfields better than any team there already - time will tell.
I'm happy it looks like two city teams up at least!

Interesting results at the top end in anticipation if championship but - LEAGUE IS LEAGUE AND CHAMPIONSHIP IS CHAMPIONSHIP.
I still think loughgiel will beat Dunloy or cushendall in the final.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 12:53:11 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 07, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
Cushendall dominated the first half, Alex Delargy was excellent with 3 points from play. Dunloy came well into it in the second half and closed the gap to 2 on one occasion but could never get closer than that. Ryan Mc Cambridge went onto Shorty after about ten minutes and did well on him. Dunloy forwards wern't great, Shorty from frees did the most of their scoring. I think he got about 1-8 or 1-9 from frees. Referee allowed Dunloy away with a savage amount of over carrying.

Dall more than good value for the win. Our forwards apart from Shorty were anonymous for most of the evening. If we can't make the ball stick under pressure then we're not going to make much headway.

No idea where the over carrying comments come from....nothing stuck out for me. Wonder is there a bit of gamesmanship at work here JJ ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 08, 2013, 08:32:08 AM
Skull were you at the match at all? We only got 2 points from frees, Dunloy got 8. I was standing behind our subs and with about ten minutes to go our stats man said Cdall have had four frees and Dunloy 16. There wasn't a dirty stroke in the game & I don't even think there was 1 yellow card. Poor show from the ref, I hope we don't see him come Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2013, 08:53:58 AM
Quote from: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on August 07, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 07, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
O`Donovan Rossa GAC 0-22   0-22   St.Patricks, Portaferry       
Cuchullains-Dunloy 1-14   1-17   Ruairí Óg   Cuchullians-Dunloy
Ballygalget 3-10 1-17 St John's GAC   Ballygalget       
Loughgiel Shamrocks 0-17 2-11 Mac Uilin CLG

Both interesting results? any game reports ?

Interesting indeed!  But according to all critics we're not even on the radar!  Beat them once, drew with them once and beat by them by only couple of points.  Our lads had unbelievably ropey first half and to come away with a draw is more than heartening.  They fought for all they were worth in the second half and deserved the draw at the very least.  At the end of normal time the Town were two points clear. Jackie Carson played for the draw without a shadow of a doubt.  But hey.......we'll settle for the draw and see what Championship brings!!

What a load of balls, played for a draw? Hmmm how do you do that? as a referee?

To the referees defence as anticipated......How can you comment as you weren't even there!  You've expressed your views numerous times before and weren't responded to by 'load of balls'.  My opinion......and entitled to it!

Then answer the question, how did the referee play for a draw in a hurling match? Did he say to himself before he went to the game , I'll play for a draw and If Loughgiel go 20 up I'll bring it back by giving a few penalties? Stupid comment but like you said you're entitled to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2013, 09:09:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 07, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
That's goodnight for Rossa hardstation!
Great game tho!

A draw a fair result in the end - great game to watch.

I don't think there was ever more than a couple of points in it to either team. Final score was 22 or 23 points a piece. Says it all!

On the whole I felt Rossa seemed to battle hard for their scores whilst the ports seemed to pick of easier points - read into that what you will.

Puck outs were a big point - portaferry had the upper hand here. They had strong forwards winning possession while Rossa were a bit lighter.

For Rossa - bell & Hamill are the only players who seem to force the game. Whilst Michael Armstrong was best up front. Shannon also had a good game.
For the ports - branniff is a great player and was their go to man - not sure the other number11 johnnycool - a big fella was also winning ball.

All in all in was a smashing game of hurling - a result that suits the ards men more than Rossa I think!

Most likely Kevin McGarry,  slow over the ground but good hand.

We'd a strange game vrs the Johnnies, they were 10 points up at half time and full value for it, played some good hurling and we were at 6's and 7's and as poor as we've been for a while. Then we made a few substitutions and positional moves and started motoring, started getting good ball into Danny Toner who picked off a few points, got a goal, then we followed up with another two goals and a few points to bring it level, the Johnnies smallish corner forward got them back in the lead with a good point and as the darkness descended we failed to take a few chances and that was that.

Johnnies looked good when they were given the time and space to play and have some very good hurlers, but once we decided to play a bit and put in some challenges and effort they looked decidedly ordinary, especially in their fullback line. Simon McCrory started off left half back and if I was Jonty, I think they need him in fullback to shore it up as all the good stuff they do out the field will result in nothing if they leave the back door open in the championship.

Who would the big lad in their forwards be? He started out centre forward and was throwing the timber about, got booked for a bit of a shaft, was moved to full forward, but fell like a big oak when getting some of his own medicine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 08, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 08, 2013, 12:06:40 AM
2 up & 2 down in hurling league. I don't see Rossa gettin any more points minder - they don't travel well and still rely to much on old hands. Ports may escape that's ur oisins biggest threat.
Only issue I have with that is are st galls & sarsfields better than any team there already - time will tell.
I'm happy it looks like two city teams up at least!

Interesting results at the top end in anticipation if championship but - LEAGUE IS LEAGUE AND CHAMPIONSHIP IS CHAMPIONSHIP. I still think loughgiel will beat Dunloy or cushendall in the final.

Very true. But at this stage of the season, league games between these four teams suggest a cracking championship. Very unlikey that any of the teams were going anything back. Fingers crossed none of the players in any teams pick up an injury.

Thanks CastleCamog, sounded like a good match. Any shamrock posters have an alternate view of the game? (not the refs performance).

This championship could be a classic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 08, 2013, 09:35:47 AM
Ballycastle at 10/1 are a bog cert.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 08, 2013, 08:32:08 AM
Skull were you at the match at all? We only got 2 points from frees, Dunloy got 8. I was standing behind our subs and with about ten minutes to go our stats man said Cdall have had four frees and Dunloy 16. There wasn't a dirty stroke in the game & I don't even think there was 1 yellow card. Poor show from the ref, I hope we don't see him come Championship.

You seen my previous reply JJ....you know I was at the game. One minute you talk about blatant over carrying by us and next youre talking about the free count discrepancies.....make up your mind what to whinge about stick to it. Or maybe youre saying the 'frees youse should have got' were over carrying decisions not given ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 08, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
Skull I'm questioning the free count and the amount of over carrying that was let go, is that ok with you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 09:48:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 08, 2013, 09:35:47 AM
Ballycastle at 10/1 are a bog cert.

I'm gonna pay off my mortgage on that one. Like how many times have you seen shock results in the league and the favourites winning come championship?  :o  ...youre just right (and no subliminal smugness about it either  ::))
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 08, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
Skull I'm questioning the free count and the amount of over carrying that was let go, is that ok with you?

Now you've cleared up the confusion ... cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 08, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 08, 2013, 09:35:47 AM
Ballycastle at 10/1 are a bog cert.
is that to win championship or against the shams??? Might be worth a few teams throwing games and cashing in, a win would keep the wovles away from the door. normal order could be restored next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:07:07 AM
Skull, i have to believe your just winding JJ up, cause i honestly dont believe you think that one team didn't get frees a lot easier than the other team last night. IMHO it was laughable towards the end.

Anyhow, we won the game so nothing to whinge about.

We should be reasonably happy last night, we played well in patches in the first half, though we where very poor and lethargic for most of the second half, but never looked like getting beat.

Plenty to work on but a lot of good signs IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:07:07 AM
Skull, i have to believe your just winding JJ up, cause i honestly dont believe you think that one team didn't get frees a lot easier than the other team last night. IMHO it was laughable towards the end.

I'm not winding anyone up (intentionally anyway)

My take on the free count was that youse didnt get the same frees because in too many positions on too many occasions we weren't close enough to make a challenge. Hence why youse scored so many from play. Whenever we had the ball, your players were close enough but on many occasions fouled. Kapish?

The over carrying assertion is just stupid IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:07:07 AM
Skull, i have to believe your just winding JJ up, cause i honestly dont believe you think that one team didn't get frees a lot easier than the other team last night. IMHO it was laughable towards the end.

My take on the free count was that youse didnt get the same frees because in too many positions on too many occasions we weren't close enough to make a challenge. Hence why youse scored so many from play. Whenever we had the ball, your players were close enough but on many occasions fouled. Kapish?

if that's your take on it, i think its just best to agree to disagree  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 10:07:07 AM
Skull, i have to believe your just winding JJ up, cause i honestly dont believe you think that one team didn't get frees a lot easier than the other team last night. IMHO it was laughable towards the end.

My take on the free count was that youse didnt get the same frees because in too many positions on too many occasions we weren't close enough to make a challenge. Hence why youse scored so many from play. Whenever we had the ball, your players were close enough but on many occasions fouled. Kapish?

if that's your take on it, i think its just best to agree to disagree  8)

So what you're possibly saying is that a Johnnies man wanted to give Dunloy more frees than Cushendall? Or what? I'm not sure. Were they frees or not? Does your stat man record whether it's a foul or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 08, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
I'm getting slightly fustrated with our lads. They are hard to work out. Last week we were poor against cushendall, starting very slow and as a result got what we deserved out of it which was nothing. Last night our first half was crap. No other way of putting it. Conceded 3 or 4 points in first 5 mins. Loughgiel were on fire and seemed to be on song with their slick passing and scoring some great scores much to the delight of the supporters! Second half we were completely different team, first to most balls, showed great fight and a bit of passion which was missing and completely turned game around, two quick clarkey goals. We should have held on for the win in the end. But probably over the hour a draw was a fair result.

As for the ref, i felt he was ok. Give a few soft frees to both at times but i wouldnt have any issue with way Jackie refffed it.

My main concern is our consistency. They are blowing so hot and cold. As a result i couldnt say how we will do come championship. If we turn up we will be a game for anyone, if we dont Glenariffe could beat us.

But as most of you posters have referred to over the past number of years, we will probably fold - because as you say thats what the town do.

Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
i know i shouldn't bother but.....

Firstly i had no idea who and where he was from.

whether it was intentional or not i have no idea.

i have no doubt in my mind that Dunloy got their frees a lot easier that Cushendall did.

i have no idea who the stat man is and dont see the relevance of that remark to my posts

its no big deal lads, it happens in matches sometimes intentional, sometimes not, its happened the other way for us before, i just find it funny some people are so blinkered to see it.

anyhow, lets move on from this as it seems to be too confusing for some people.

Good result for Ballycastle last night, i know its just league but from what i have saw of them this year i was very surprised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2013, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
i know i shouldn't bother but.....

Firstly i had no idea who and where he was from.

whether it was intentional or not i have no idea.

i have no doubt in my mind that Dunloy got their frees a lot easier that Cushendall did.

i have no idea who the stat man is and dont see the relevance of that remark to my posts

its no big deal lads, it happens in matches sometimes intentional, sometimes not, its happened the other way for us before, i just find it funny some people are so blinkered to see it.

anyhow, lets move on from this as it seems to be too confusing for some people.

Good result for Ballycastle last night, i know its just league but from what i have saw of them this year i was very surprised.

Your clubmate, Jesus mentioned the stats man in another post on the frees subject.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2013, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
i know i shouldn't bother but.....

Firstly i had no idea who and where he was from.

whether it was intentional or not i have no idea.

i have no doubt in my mind that Dunloy got their frees a lot easier that Cushendall did.

i have no idea who the stat man is and dont see the relevance of that remark to my posts

its no big deal lads, it happens in matches sometimes intentional, sometimes not, its happened the other way for us before, i just find it funny some people are so blinkered to see it.

anyhow, lets move on from this as it seems to be too confusing for some people.



Am I the only one enjoying the irony here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 08, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
i know i shouldn't bother but.....

Firstly i had no idea who and where he was from.

whether it was intentional or not i have no idea.

i have no doubt in my mind that Dunloy got their frees a lot easier that Cushendall did.

i have no idea who the stat man is and dont see the relevance of that remark to my posts

its no big deal lads, it happens in matches sometimes intentional, sometimes not, its happened the other way for us before, i just find it funny some people are so blinkered to see it.

anyhow, lets move on from this as it seems to be too confusing for some people.

Good result for Ballycastle last night, i know its just league but from what i have saw of them this year i was very surprised.

Can't say much about the second half, I left but what frees I seen him give I thought and so did the Dall lads I stood with was that they were frees!

As quoted by Johnny it was JJ who was talking about stats I was just wondering if he took all the stats in the match. People from most clubs are blinkered when a free is given against their club it's natural, I've yet to hear a supporter from a club shout well done referee, that was a foul by our player, book him lol!!

Moving on from it is good, to say referees give an advantage to one team over another is silly, what is it he will get out of it? I've yet to get an envelope with money in it ;)

Loughgiel and Cushendall from what I've seen are in the driving seat. Loughgiel have plenty in reserve as do Cushendall, they are doing enough to win league games and give plenty of fringe players time on the team which can only be a good thing. Baring any shocks I think these two will meet in the final and 4/1 for Cushendall is tasty but I think once Liam gets back from his injury ( ;D) Loughgiel will get over the line by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Irrespective of all that has been said, big J has played at the best level, managed and now has the stones to referee, and for a first year at it, I thought he did a spot on job! Well done big man, practice what you preach!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Irrespective of all that has been said, big J has played at the best level, managed and now has the stones to referee, and for a first year at it, I thought he did a spot on job! Well done big man, practice what you preach!

Good to see big Jackie at the refereeing, he gave them dogs abuse as a player and the few times I seen him manage the dall camogs, wonder does he take any stick from managers now he's the other side of the whistle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 08, 2013, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 08, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
I'm getting slightly fustrated with our lads. They are hard to work out. Last week we were poor against cushendall, starting very slow and as a result got what we deserved out of it which was nothing. Last night our first half was crap. No other way of putting it. Conceded 3 or 4 points in first 5 mins. Loughgiel were on fire and seemed to be on song with their slick passing and scoring some great scores much to the delight of the supporters! Second half we were completely different team, first to most balls, showed great fight and a bit of passion which was missing and completely turned game around, two quick clarkey goals. We should have held on for the win in the end. But probably over the hour a draw was a fair result.

As for the ref, i felt he was ok. Give a few soft frees to both at times but i wouldnt have any issue with way Jackie refffed it.

My main concern is our consistency. They are blowing so hot and cold. As a result i couldnt say how we will do come championship. If we turn up we will be a game for anyone, if we dont Glenariffe could beat us.

But as most of you posters have referred to over the past number of years, we will probably fold - because as you say thats what the town do.

Interesting times ahead.

No disagreement Leyland. If we can play 60 minutes like the second 30 last night we will give anybody a game. Only one thing. Loughgeil scored 17 times and we scored 13 times. We lose scores looking for goal. Theres goals in the forwards but should'nt look for them always.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2013, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Irrespective of all that has been said, big J has played at the best level, managed and now has the stones to referee, and for a first year at it, I thought he did a spot on job! Well done big man, practice what you preach!

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on August 08, 2013, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 08, 2013, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Irrespective of all that has been said, big J has played at the best level, managed and now has the stones to referee, and for a first year at it, I thought he did a spot on job! Well done big man, practice what you preach!

+1

Played football with Jackie and I can bet few on here would criticise his reffing to his face!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 09, 2013, 12:11:49 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 08, 2013, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 08, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
Irrespective of all that has been said, big J has played at the best level, managed and now has the stones to referee, and for a first year at it, I thought he did a spot on job! Well done big man, practice what you preach!

+1

Great to see someone who knows the game (not just the rules) taking up the whistle.
Fair play jackie - home he has a good 2nd career at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 09, 2013, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 08, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
I'm getting slightly fustrated with our lads. They are hard to work out. Last week we were poor against cushendall, starting very slow and as a result got what we deserved out of it which was nothing. Last night our first half was crap. No other way of putting it. Conceded 3 or 4 points in first 5 mins. Loughgiel were on fire and seemed to be on song with their slick passing and scoring some great scores much to the delight of the supporters! Second half we were completely different team, first to most balls, showed great fight and a bit of passion which was missing and completely turned game around, two quick clarkey goals. We should have held on for the win in the end. But probably over the hour a draw was a fair result.

As for the ref, i felt he was ok. Give a few soft frees to both at times but i wouldnt have any issue with way Jackie refffed it.

My main concern is our consistency. They are blowing so hot and cold. As a result i couldnt say how we will do come championship. If we turn up we will be a game for anyone, if we dont Glenariffe could beat us.

But as most of you posters have referred to over the past number of years, we will probably fold - because as you say thats what the town do.

Interesting times ahead.

Your spot on Leyland about consistency. I cant figure how what Ballycastle team is going to show up in the championship. Is it the one that put 4 goals past Dunloy, 6.17 vs Portaferry, the team that beat L'giel in the Feis and the team that put in a great 2nd half display against L'giel on Wed? Or is it the team that was poor against C'dall at home and Dunloy away or the one that struggled to get past a poor Rossa team at home?

One thing I do know is they are getting there. For example on Wed night they were 7 points down away to L'giel at half time. 1, 3, 5 years ago they would have lost that match by 10/12/15 points, we got a draw on Wed night so we are moving in the right direction. Let NAG and probably other people of his ilk on here think Ballycastle are bottlers but make no mistake the team is moving in the right direction and they wont be far away in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2013, 08:48:22 AM
ok this whole frees thing from wednesday night.

yes we got more frees than cdall did. cant disagree with that point. but what i will say is that cdall need to stop holding players. i was close enough to hear the ref tell one of the players why he blew him up. he told him 'youve got to stop holding onto a player in the tackle'. simple as.

you cant tackle a player and hold his arm etc and not expect a foul to be give. other fouls they conceeded were stupit like hands on the back, tripping etc. i think JJ your looking into this too much. the most of your frees were conceeded in your own half by your forwards. these included hands on the back, tripping and holding again.

regardless you had more shots on goal than we did, twice as many in fact so the free count wasnt going to count.

we scored 1-7 from frees and yous scored about 0-4 (1-4 if you count that short free) so it made little difference.

anyway, we played kack and if im honest so did Cdall in the second half. cant read into that game too much but i will say that the young lads in cdalls team impressed me. yous have alot of good talent being beded into your team which bodes well for use for the future.

sadly we are struggling due to having a poor run at underage for so many years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 09, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 09, 2013, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 08, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
I'm getting slightly fustrated with our lads. They are hard to work out. Last week we were poor against cushendall, starting very slow and as a result got what we deserved out of it which was nothing. Last night our first half was crap. No other way of putting it. Conceded 3 or 4 points in first 5 mins. Loughgiel were on fire and seemed to be on song with their slick passing and scoring some great scores much to the delight of the supporters! Second half we were completely different team, first to most balls, showed great fight and a bit of passion which was missing and completely turned game around, two quick clarkey goals. We should have held on for the win in the end. But probably over the hour a draw was a fair result.

As for the ref, i felt he was ok. Give a few soft frees to both at times but i wouldnt have any issue with way Jackie refffed it.

My main concern is our consistency. They are blowing so hot and cold. As a result i couldnt say how we will do come championship. If we turn up we will be a game for anyone, if we dont Glenariffe could beat us.

But as most of you posters have referred to over the past number of years, we will probably fold - because as you say thats what the town do.

Interesting times ahead.

Your spot on Leyland about consistency. I cant figure how what Ballycastle team is going to show up in the championship. Is it the one that put 4 goals past Dunloy, 6.17 vs Portaferry, the team that beat L'giel in the Feis and the team that put in a great 2nd half display against L'giel on Wed? Or is it the team that was poor against C'dall at home and Dunloy away or the one that struggled to get past a poor Rossa team at home?

One thing I do know is they are getting there. For example on Wed night they were 7 points down away to L'giel at half time. 1, 3, 5 years ago they would have lost that match by 10/12/15 points, we got a draw on Wed night so we are moving in the right direction. Let NAG and probably other people of his ilk on here think Ballycastle are bottlers but make no mistake the team is moving in the right direction and they wont be far away in the next couple of years.

sounds like the championship wrapped up for the town. Are they still playing with the tatics of moving Neal and Matty all over the pitch? Will cormac be fit?

Have the dall lined out a full streghth squad this year? Hopefully injuries will be cleared up by now.

Has Jesus played many games for the shams or is he doing a ronnie o'sullivan style come back?

I cant wait!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
He quit and retired (Came from his own mouth) and guess what, he's back again!

Antrim hurling is saved! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Never doubt the wisdom of sie.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 09, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 09, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
He quit and retired (Came from his own mouth) and guess what, he's back again!

Antrim hurling is saved! Lol

The James Brown of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 09, 2013, 11:51:04 AM
You referring to Casement HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 09, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Never doubt the wisdom of sie.  ;D

Sore ankle or not there was more to the story. May be no one else's business than Loughgiel's and I am not digging, fishing, giving abuse to anyone in particular here but how can it not have a detrimental effect on team morale if there is a completely different set of rules for one player than the rest?

More of a general point this that speaking about Winker but he is a prime example. Most teams/clubs have at least one like this but is there ever a breaking point where someone is not allowed back in the camp?

They beat St Galls handy and should stroll to the final unless Ballycastle put up resistance but is it fair that those who trained hard to date, played v St Galls etc will have to make way.

Appreciate that "fair" doesn't win championships but just not sure how it can't effect team morale?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2013, 12:46:35 PM
Things like that tend to do that glensman. maybe Lgiel players have just come to accpet that he will turn up, leave, not be fit to play due his weekends etc. its seems to be the trend for the past number of years.

i know our club does drop players who miss training

its hard not to play a brilliant player, no matter what his problems may be. on a field hes a class act, off it, well thats his personal business and nothing to do with the rest of us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
The training didn't start in earnest until the start of June. Liam played/trained when he and the rest of the panel were under no obligation to do so before this Time. He also was about until recently. He injured his ankle. During this time he may or may not have contemplated retiring. As he has the right to do. Thankfully he'll be back to training next week. No conspiracy, no big story. Move along now, nothing to see here.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
lol to be fair when i heard about it, i just laughed and rolled my eyes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 09, 2013, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 09, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
lol to be fair when i heard about it, i just laughed and rolled my eyes.

Much the same as myself...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 09, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
The training didn't start in earnest until the start of June. Liam played/trained when he and the rest of the panel were under no obligation to do so before this Time. He also was about until recently. He injured his ankle. During this time he may or may not have contemplated retiring. As he has the right to do. Thankfully he'll be back to training next week. No conspiracy, no big story. Move along now, nothing to see here.  ;)
Was the ankle injury serious? Was that why he missed the St Galls game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 09, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
The training didn't start in earnest until the start of June. Liam played/trained when he and the rest of the panel were under no obligation to do so before this Time. He also was about until recently. He injured his ankle. During this time he may or may not have contemplated retiring. As he has the right to do. Thankfully he'll be back to training next week. No conspiracy, no big story. Move along now, nothing to see here.  ;)
Was the ankle injury serious? Was that why he missed the St Galls game?
I would assume so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on August 09, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
The training didn't start in earnest until the start of June. Liam played/trained when he and the rest of the panel were under no obligation to do so before this Time. He also was about until recently. He injured his ankle. During this time he may or may not have contemplated retiring. As he has the right to do. Thankfully he'll be back to training next week. No conspiracy, no big story. Move along now, nothing to see here.  ;)

SIE if he wasn't able to hurl with an ankle injury, how was he able to play for Ballymoney United last Friday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 09, 2013, 04:59:36 PM
could someone tell me is Casement shut and no more games in it

or will we all be there for the county final etc

when does work start or will it sit for a year or 2

reckon the town have progessed well BUT a little behind the big three.  Cushendall shaping up for it and I think it will be one hell of a final against the shams possibly in ballycastle

Nice to see MR2 as prickly as ever regards Referees playing for draws  Reckon very few SET OUT AT START of the game to do it.  With that point I do agree

fair play Jackie, look forward to seeing a display from him.  wouldn't have been his biggest fan but knowing him he will have a more down to earth persona than a few.  No fingers at you however MR2 so stand down.

MR2 what stance do you take when management start slabbering at you from the sideline.   

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 09, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
No big secret. He gives as good as he gets and sometimes better ha. He's in Donegal tonight so probably won't pay to access the Internet whilst down south;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 09, 2013, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Anybody think we'll be looking for a new County Chairman & County Secretary soon after their recent balls up?
Don't let the gate hit youse on the way out.

what happened HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 10, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
The whole casement issue is some debacle alright - altho I have to say I'm sympathetic as I feel the carrot if free money / free stadium has steam rolled legitimate concerns and the broader issues.
A new shiny stadium is not a panacea in fact I see it as a solution without a problem!

As for the other matter - I can't believe it's just another year and another Liam Watson saga!

Are him and the mc gourty's from st galls related!

It's non-stop! Please save us this annual attention seeking & giving over people who don't deserve it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 10, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
HS I don't think the local community ever doubted there was cloaks & daggers with this.
Most fell at the promise of the shiny new stadium "for free". Those in power in antrim were able to exploit this.
Some of the stuff in the press has been nothing short of propeganda! Few people have considered the big picture.
The guys who fought this deserve huge credit they really do - although given BM as man I am not surprised he refused to lie down.
Fair dues to them - and good luck to them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 10, 2013, 10:48:52 AM
Had an interesting chat with a loughiel man last night at a wedding party. Seems to be a bit of division within the camp over mr Watson. Apparently he had retired, sent all the players a text, a letter to the club etc etc. played last Friday night for Ballymoney, and now has returned to the fold. This man said a lot of players especially the younger lads are very annoyed and feel that they are not getting the chance. In particular pj o Mullen came in for some harsh words from the gentleman.

They feel that if they step out of line they get crucified but mr Watson just keeps doing what he wants. 

It's interesting what you hear over a few beers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 11:05:46 AM
If you weren't convinced before you should be now. It's ballycastle's for the taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 10, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
Exile you keep coming out with the same dung. We won't win it this year. But we will win it soon. I'm just relaying the conversation I had with one if your members last night over a beer. As for the championship, it will be lgiel v cushendall final. Simple as.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 10, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
Exile you keep coming out with the same dung. We won't win it this year. But we will win it soon. I'm just relaying the conversation I had with one if your members last night over a beer. As for the championship, it will be lgiel v cushendall final. Simple as.
nothing beats the word of a drunk man at a wedding as we all can testify Leyland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 10, 2013, 11:38:53 AM
So you are saying Mr Watson never claimed he retired? You claim he was injured and missed last weeks championship opener. Your clubmate says he played football for ballymoney v coleraine. Not the actions of an injured man.

Point I found interesting was the lack of respect your clubmate had for pj. I genuinely thought he was a god in your part of the world. He certainly claims to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 11:50:23 AM
In glad we're generating so much interest from other clubs. It sends out the message that there's nothing going on within your own club. A sorry state of affairs I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 10, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 10, 2013, 11:38:53 AM
So you are saying Mr Watson never claimed he retired? You claim he was injured and missed last weeks championship opener. Your clubmate says he played football for ballymoney v coleraine. Not the actions of an injured man.

Point I found interesting was the lack of respect your clubmate had for pj. I genuinely thought he was a god in your part of the world. He certainly claims to be.

In fairness to watson. He might not have been playing last Sunday, but he was at an u10 hurling blitz with LG we where hosting. Helping with his club youth. He deserves most of the criticism he gets so fair dues to him when he is doing so something like that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
Of course nah. But that doesn't fit with the public enemy #1 persona that you all give him. It's easier to put him down. Never mind he done things on the hurling field that we all dream about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 10, 2013, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
Of course nah. But that doesn't fit with the public enemy #1 persona that you all give him. It's easier to put him down. Never mind he done things on the hurling field that we all dream about.
You don't think he's earned this himself in any way SiE?
He's too fond of the attention for whatever reason and however he gets it - I don't think anyone can really disput that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
It's all about perception. If he'd done what a certain individual done at an awards dinner last year he'd have been lambasted and called all the names of the day all year. But he didn't and someone else did. Hardly a word said about it. It's because he's from loughgiel and he is who he is.

End of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 10, 2013, 10:36:12 PM
I'm taking neither side here but "hardly a word about it" is just not true since yourself and others highlighted on this board.
Also - the Watson circus is an annual event. Support ur clubman by all means but we just can't seriously claim that the fella's hurling ability comes with an exhausting amount of sideshows.
Not all them can be blamed on others - he consistently gives them ammunition and to be honest I think that's what he wants - attention.

I put him and a certain bog baller McGourty in exactly the same light. Unfortunately outside their own club they will be remembered most for their attention seeking circus acts.

HS he was at feile today - very different person depending on who he is talking to. Was a fine gentleman with my good self obviously!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
And you'll also note that anything to do with winker is brought up by other club's supporters.  Not people from loughgiel. Both on here and in the real world. Speaks volumes if you ask me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2013, 11:45:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2013, 11:36:32 PM
What is the current problem with Winker? Is it simply that he packed it in and has now changed his mind? Doesn't this happen all the time, in every club and nothing has ever been said (as it's not a big issue).

Time for people to have a wee think, as I'm sure there are people in every club who have done similar.

Chris Hamill & Paul Close have done similar in our club recently and everyone was just delighted to have them back.

FFS, Paul Scholes did it with Man United and was hailed a hero for it.

I get the impression that Liam Watson can't have a skittery shite without some knobhead holding it against him.
indeed hs.  Summed up perfectly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2013, 11:36:32 PM
What is the current problem with Winker? Is it simply that he packed it in and has now changed his mind? Doesn't this happen all the time, in every club and nothing has ever been said (as it's not a big issue).

Time for people to have a wee think, as I'm sure there are people in every club who have done similar.

Chris Hamill & Paul Close have done similar in our club recently and everyone was just delighted to have them back.

FFS, Paul Scholes did it with Man United and was hailed a hero for it.

I get the impression that Liam Watson can't have a skittery shite without some knobhead holding it against him.

he can shite as many times and where ever he wants, I can only speak for my self when i Say who cares. I don't know what is worse, all the post and fascination with him fueled by him and his behavior or SIE trying in vein to convince his detractors that in below it all he really is a nice chap. this has been dragging on for 3 days now, are there no other subjects more interesting than this. I appeal to all posters to move on and SIE to have his children and leave it at that

Whats the story with Antrim u 21s. I read there that wexford have lost two of there best players to injury and we only got 8 to our last training session. By some accounts this isn't the worst bunch of players so why no interest. Ryan must be wondering the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
Show me once where I commented on his nature. You and your ilk get thrills out of it. Remember that come September.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 12:30:01 AM
And as for antrim. Sure it's a happy camp. Move on.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 12:33:27 AM
You can't help but get personal nah. Plenty of jealousy alive and well in the bog. Road works or not.  ;)

Fair play to yous, pappy's does a decent filled soda of a Saturday morning. Worth waiting for.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 11, 2013, 01:49:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
I think that's unfair. Both of those were central to their clubs winning All Ireland titles. It would take a lot to overshadow those achievements.

Precisely my point - they are very similar characters and careers.
I never said it over shadowed their achievements - altho some would.
Personally I defer to all-Ireland medals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
I ain't jealous. He's brilliant player as I've stated before but too much work and bad for any team moral.

But then again were all against him am your club :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
And we wouldn't want it any other way dr. Sure it would be boring otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
And we wouldn't want it any other way dr. Sure it would be boring otherwise.

Yeah yeah yeah you and liam against the world and the world hasn't got a chance we get it. What about Dublin and. Cork it's some match nothing in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
And we wouldn't want it any other way dr. Sure it would be boring otherwise.

Yeah yeah yeah you and liam against the world and the world hasn't got a chance we get it. What about Dublin and. Cork it's some match nothing in it
*yawns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 04:53:09 PM
Looks like the boys in the red jerseys are going to win again nah.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
Glenariffe beat Ballycran by 4, that is Rossa just about sunk I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 11, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
Glenariffe beat Ballycran by 4, that is Rossa just about sunk I would say.

Strange results for Glenariffe this year Minder, though by all accounts it could be two down though Portaferry are struggling and only a point ahead with a game in hand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 09, 2013, 04:59:36 PM
could someone tell me is Casement shut and no more games in it

or will we all be there for the county final etc

when does work start or will it sit for a year or 2

reckon the town have progessed well BUT a little behind the big three.  Cushendall shaping up for it and I think it will be one hell of a final against the shams possibly in ballycastle

Nice to see MR2 as prickly as ever regards Referees playing for draws  Reckon very few SET OUT AT START of the game to do it.  With that point I do agree

fair play Jackie, look forward to seeing a display from him.  wouldn't have been his biggest fan but knowing him he will have a more down to earth persona than a few.  No fingers at you however MR2 so stand down.

MR2 what stance do you take when management start slabbering at you from the sideline.   

I ain't being prickly, just consistent unlike a few on here.  Any slabbering form the line the manager is usually sent off, why should anybody take abuse is beyond me. More ex players seem to be taking it up and by all accounts Jackie did a great job and why wouldn't he?

As manballandall said, way to expensive for internet access ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2013, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 11, 2013, 05:16:23 PM
Glenariffe beat Ballycran by 4, that is Rossa just about sunk I would say.

Strange results for Glenariffe this year Minder, though by all accounts it could be two down though Portaferry are struggling and only a point ahead with a game in hand

We are starting to get a few players back, the team is a bit stronger but Ballycran beat us by 20 two weeks ago. We have won just about every game we have targeted, ( and hammered in the rest) Rossa, Portaferry, Ballycran at home and Ballygalget to come next week at home. 8 points is a far better return than I thought we would get.

We are a point ahead of Portaferry now, but we only have two games left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
We scored 3-28 yesterday. Not bad for a team in disarray. Allegedly.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Yeah. It's pretty sad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care

Very true, if any other county  is reading this board  it is a bit embarrassing. It's one thing having no interest in your county but some of the subjects on here are woefull. We have an u21 quarter final coming up and I see our u16  squad was beat yesterday by Donegal. But what's the obsession on here
What some clown is posting on twitter.  What's really sad, lets forget about the image we are projecting to outside counties . Lets consider some young impressionable player with county aspirations  checks in here for a look. Imm not blaming players for showing no interest in county hurling anymore. I think collectively our indifference and apathy to it is contributing more to the status quo. I haven't any more solutions than anyone else imm just making an observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care

Very true, if any other county  is reading this board  it is a bit embarrassing. It's one thing having no interest in your county but some of the subjects on here are woefull. We have an u21 quarter final coming up and I see our u16  squad was beat yesterday by Donegal. But what's the obsession on here
What some clown is posting on twitter.  What's really sad, lets forget about the image we are projecting to outside counties . Lets consider some young impressionable player with county aspirations  checks in here for a look. Imm not blaming players for showing no interest in county hurling anymore. I think collectively our indifference and apathy to it is contributing more to the status quo. I haven't any more solutions than anyone else imm just making an observation.

I'm actually depressed about the whole thing. Love the sport, it's my life. But this crap in this county drives me despair. Proper fed up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 09:53:33 PM
Lads, it's OK because it's a happy camp. Haven't you heard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on August 11, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Funny today. Chatting to a couple of Cork people today after the game. They were pissing themselves at the antics of this place. Silly people with silly wee empires. They have rival clubs down in langerland too, but not to this extent. Couldn't get their head around people here taking club stuff so serious yet don't care about county. Suppose that's why they win stuff and are respected while we travelling the same ground again and again. Big fish small pond I guess. Who wins the 'championship' this year? I really couldn't care

Very true, if any other county  is reading this board  it is a bit embarrassing. It's one thing having no interest in your county but some of the subjects on here are woefull. We have an u21 quarter final coming up and I see our u16  squad was beat yesterday by Donegal. But what's the obsession on here
What some clown is posting on twitter.  What's really sad, lets forget about the image we are projecting to outside counties . Lets consider some young impressionable player with county aspirations  checks in here for a look. Imm not blaming players for showing no interest in county hurling anymore. I think collectively our indifference and apathy to it is contributing more to the status quo. I haven't any more solutions than anyone else imm just making an observation.

I'm actually depressed about the whole thing. Love the sport, it's my life. But this crap in this county drives me despair. Proper fed up

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 12, 2013, 09:52:25 AM
I fully agree with Optimus Cheese. Time to scrap this god forsaken toxic county set up in this province and apply a rugby provincial model to Ulster Hurling. Surely if an Ulster team had reached a semi final like yesterday we would all be buzzing about it beforehand and only a fookin clown would say ' aye but it should only be Antrim '.

If my club even only had one player on the field of play, I would still have a club mate representing us at the highest stage in an actual real match that is important and not some curtain raiser sh ite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 12, 2013, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
We scored 3-28 yesterday. Not bad for a team in disarray. Allegedly.  :o

aye but yous conceeded 0-19 the defence is obviously week!  :P  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 13, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
antrim can win an all ireland U21 hurling title by 2015 according to Kevin Ryan.

what you all think? read the article and he speaks alot of sense. we do have that attitude that were going to get beat when the county plays. maybe were so used to being defeated that we accept defeat even before entering the field.

club wise, we know that our clubs can win an all ireland as lgiel proved. i know from our clubs perspective that if were in the semi finals that we can win, as the likes of ourselves, Rossa and Ballycastle have done. so why is it different at club level than the county?

was in tipp at the weekend and when asked where i was from they knew straight away. they counld name all the clubs like Loughgiel, cushendall, ballycastle st johns etc. they were full of praise of how good our clubs are and the standard we can play at but were amazed that we didnt take it onto county level and progress.

i couldnt tell him why we cant seem to progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 13, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
The strong counties would have probably 10-20 times more senior club hurlers. 50 times more passionate hurling supporters. Its down to numbers

Passionate hurling men in Antrim have become more pragmatic and see the AICH as the best way to achieve. No one I know has any REAL affinity with our County Board. We are a disparate bunch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
The strong counties would have probably 10-20 times more senior club hurlers. 50 times more passionate hurling supporters. Its down to numbers

Passionate hurling men in Antrim have become more pragmatic and see the AICH as the best way to achieve. No one I know has any REAL affinity with our County Board. We are a disparate bunch

+1

It is a numbers game and numbers is something we dont have, if we paid the proper respect to Belfast and helped to expand and develop the game in a large urban area we might be able to increase the numbers. But with an unwillingness of Croke park to invest in the second city and lack of interest from a lot of the GAA fraternity in Belfast then we are struggling.

We are no where near competing at u21 level and for KR to claim this does his credibility no good, for a man I would have alot of time for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on August 13, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2013, 01:24:12 AM
There are a number of issues with Casement. One being that we have now lost our county ground to the Ulster Council.
Brit government puts in 65 million.
GAA in Dublin puts in 15 million.
Antrim GAA hands over a ground worth whatever million.
Ulster council don't give a washer and take over the ground.

The whole thing has been handled disgracefully. A bunch of fcukin shysters.
I don't understand why there isn't a multi use ground. Casement as it stands is a too big and is left to rot most of the year. Its pity Ulster rugby and GAA couldn't work on something together. Then the ground would have some use in the wintertime and the place could develop in a community hub. Getting this government money would have been a great chance to build a shared future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 13, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
The strong counties would have probably 10-20 times more senior club hurlers. 50 times more passionate hurling supporters. Its down to numbers

Passionate hurling men in Antrim have become more pragmatic and see the AICH as the best way to achieve. No one I know has any REAL affinity with our County Board. We are a disparate bunch

+1

It is a numbers game and numbers is something we dont have, if we paid the proper respect to Belfast and helped to expand and develop the game in a large urban area we might be able to increase the numbers. But with an unwillingness of Croke park to invest in the second city and lack of interest from a lot of the GAA fraternity in Belfast then we are struggling.

We are no where near competing at u21 level and for KR to claim this does his credibility no good, for a man I would have alot of time for.

i agree, its bad that for the size of belfast we only have 2 division 1 teams in it from the city. look at the football where its dominated at the top levels by city teams.

that in is where the problem is, clubs are more football orintated in belfast where as in north antrim its hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: pullhard on August 13, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 10, 2013, 01:24:12 AM
There are a number of issues with Casement. One being that we have now lost our county ground to the Ulster Council.
Brit government puts in 65 million.
GAA in Dublin puts in 15 million.
Antrim GAA hands over a ground worth whatever million.
Ulster council don't give a washer and take over the ground.

The whole thing has been handled disgracefully. A bunch of fcukin shysters.
I don't understand why there isn't a multi use ground. Casement as it stands is a too big and is left to rot most of the year. Its pity Ulster rugby and GAA couldn't work on something together. Then the ground would have some use in the wintertime and the place could develop in a community hub. Getting this government money would have been a great chance to build a shared future.

Seriously?   ::)

Has to be a WUM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
Couple of big topics there lads!

1) without getting political about shared futures - it is somewhat curious to completely rebuild a stadium which is not only perfectly fit for purpose - but which sits idle 99% of the year and has rarely been filled if ever in my lifetime.

2) there is little or no doubt that if Antrim as a county are to progress - then the key to this is maximising the numerical potential in Belfast. The glens can't bring Antrim to a top level themselves and Belfast (like any urban area) needs help - and needs to help ourselves. Dublin's success is not just down to investment - they had good people doing the right things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
Couple of big topics there lads!

1) without getting political about shared futures - it is somewhat curious to completely rebuild a stadium which is not only perfectly fit for purpose - but which sits idle 99% of the year and has rarely been filled if ever in my lifetime.

2) there is little or no doubt that if Antrim as a county are to progress - then the key to this is maximising the numerical potential in Belfast. The glens can't bring Antrim to a top level themselves and Belfast (like any urban area) needs help - and needs to help ourselves. Dublin's success is not just down to investment - they had good people doing the right things.

correction

They had good paid people doing the right things on the ground in each club and then up the chain also.
It was investment that got them to where they are today plain and simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
We have people here in Antrim being paid too!

Maybe they're just not as good they're job.
Or maybe the money isn't being spent as well.

The idea that the GAA threw a blank cheque into Dublin hurling - and it magically produced results is crazy and naive.
Our top club teams may beat their top club teams - but underneath that Dublin hurling is much stronger than ours. The schools & colleges are further evidence.
That's not just because of "investment plain and simple"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
We have people here in Antrim being paid too!

Maybe they're just not as good they're job.
Or maybe the money isn't being spent as well.

The idea that the GAA threw a blank cheque into Dublin hurling - and it magically produced results is crazy and naive.
Our top club teams may beat their top club teams - but underneath that Dublin hurling is much stronger than ours. The schools & colleges are further evidence.
That's not just because of "investment plain and simple"

btdtgtt

Im sorry but you are missing the point here, Dublin did not put 'development officers' around the county of Dublin, they with the clubs put them into individual clubs. A full time paid person developing a specific club, writing development plans, encouraging coaches to come to the club, upskilling these coaches and anything else to help the club progress.

Our one development officer for the whole of Belfast and one for North Antrim is a drop in the ocean to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
I'm not missing the point at all.

I think the Dublin development officer is a great idea and and obviously is one of many things that worked for them!
Although they obviously have greater numbers than us. Much greater! Belfast and Dublin citiy's are not directly comparable that's the 1st mistake often made.

That said - it doesn't mean we are getting value for money from our existing paid officials! It's not just quantity - but quality too. I have experience of around clubs & schools and I don't speak to anyone who believes we are getting much value for money - a monthly blitz and woodlands is not going to catch up on Dublin! Our development squads are box ticking exercises - all about looking great on paper with little tangible outcomes - in my opinion.

Also - I can tell you that GAA funding is not secretive and they are at pains to prove it matches per capita and linked to internal investment - otherwise don't you think every county would be screaming for their case?!
In terms of money we have to look at how it's spent!
One word - dunsilly?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 14, 2013, 12:44:37 PM
in terms of development we had for the first time in our club no minor football team due to lack of numbers. it was actually unbelivable that it happened but it shows that it can happen to any club esp a dual club like ourselves who always fielded teams at every grade and code.

i actually dont know who the developemnt officer is in our area? who are they? what do they do?

if it wasnt for the great work of the men and woman who take our U12-Minor players at our club then we wouldnt be where we are today.

i watched former senior players last night coaching our U12-14 players and the enthusism they give to those wee lads is brilliant. they kept saying to them 'this is what the seniors do, they keep going and going' nad stuff like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 15, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
We have people here in Antrim being paid too!

Maybe they're just not as good they're job.
Or maybe the money isn't being spent as well.

The idea that the GAA threw a blank cheque into Dublin hurling - and it magically produced results is crazy and naive.
Our top club teams may beat their top club teams - but underneath that Dublin hurling is much stronger than ours. The schools & colleges are further evidence.
That's not just because of "investment plain and simple"

btdtgtt

Im sorry but you are missing the point here, Dublin did not put 'development officers' around the county of Dublin, they with the clubs put them into individual clubs. A full time paid person developing a specific club, writing development plans, encouraging coaches to come to the club, upskilling these coaches and anything else to help the club progress.

Our one development officer for the whole of Belfast and one for North Antrim is a drop in the ocean to this.

Dublin had a coherent and well thought out plan to try and get funding to put in place, now there was a 'get belfast to hurl' initiative a few years back whatever happened there? Nothing, diddly squat.

Dublin clubs fund 50% of their full time coaches salary, how many Belfast clubs could do the same? How many Belfast clubs have the resources of a Ballyboden, a Kilmacud Crokes, or the other many dual clubs with up to 1000 paying members?

There are very few similarities GAA wise between Dublin and Belfast, Waterford would possibly be a better bet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on August 15, 2013, 10:55:20 PM
Spot on Johnnie C. Belfast has no resemblance to Dublin. Just check the demographics on the NINIS website. Better if we concentrated on getting the right coaches in place, role models for our juveniles and not unknowns, albeit passionate ones. Much better if we paid young stars/current players who our young aspire to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 16, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
Agree with both Johnny & ballybredagh.

The Dublin comparison is lazy.

One minor point - Belfast clubs being unable to raise the money that Dublin clubs do is not a slant on them - socio-economic fact. (Not saying u meant it as a slant either JC).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2013, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 16, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
Agree with both Johnny & ballybredagh.

The Dublin comparison is lazy.

One minor point - Belfast clubs being unable to raise the money that Dublin clubs do is not a slant on them - socio-economic fact. (Not saying u meant it as a slant either JC).

No, it wasn't meant to be a slant on Belfast clubs as most of us have probably been to one of the big Dublin clubs in recent years and the resources available to them beggars belief. The Celtic tiger was good to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 17, 2013, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 15, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
We have people here in Antrim being paid too!

Maybe they're just not as good they're job.
Or maybe the money isn't being spent as well.

The idea that the GAA threw a blank cheque into Dublin hurling - and it magically produced results is crazy and naive.
Our top club teams may beat their top club teams - but underneath that Dublin hurling is much stronger than ours. The schools & colleges are further evidence.
That's not just because of "investment plain and simple"

btdtgtt

Im sorry but you are missing the point here, Dublin did not put 'development officers' around the county of Dublin, they with the clubs put them into individual clubs. A full time paid person developing a specific club, writing development plans, encouraging coaches to come to the club, upskilling these coaches and anything else to help the club progress.

Our one development officer for the whole of Belfast and one for North Antrim is a drop in the ocean to this.

Dublin had a coherent and well thought out plan to try and get funding to put in place, now there was a 'get belfast to hurl' initiative a few years back whatever happened there? Nothing, diddly squat.

Dublin clubs fund 50% of their full time coaches salary, how many Belfast clubs could do the same? How many Belfast clubs have the resources of a Ballyboden, a Kilmacud Crokes, or the other many dual clubs with up to 1000 paying members?

There are very few similarities GAA wise between Dublin and Belfast, Waterford would possibly be a better bet.


Very valid point JC. Another point is that the coaches in the clubs in Dublin are GAA coaches not just hurling coaches. They have to develop both codes so that means the same amount of training sessions, there aren't just hurling only clubs in Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 17, 2013, 09:43:38 AM
I understand that the annual membership of some of the big south Dublin "superclubs" can be in excess of €250.00 per annum. That plus a large number of members and you are talking a serious income. While certainly "the GAA" put money into Dublin hurling, a lot of the resources were self generated. There is no comparison with Belfast (save, perhaps, for one relatively new club in the south of the city?!?!?!?). As such, the Dublin "template" cannot be applied to Belfast without serious tweaking.

That said, I agree with btdtgtt that, if Antrim are to make progress, the "resource" of Belfast's population will have to be used better.

Don't know what the answer is, though. Club Antrim seems to have gone a bit quiet, although lack of inter-county success (in either code) creates problems in raising the profile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Why is nobody addressing the elephant in the room? There are too many hurling clubs in west Belfast. Yes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Why is nobody addressing the elephant in the room? There are too many hurling clubs in west Belfast. Yes?

Far too many, but what do we do? Some of these clubs are going longer than yourselves and have tradition also. Does the county say that if you're not fielding juvenile teams at all levels then you have to cease?

I'd love to see fewer clubs, I'm lucky being involved with a bigger club but I'd feel pissed off if I had to join another. What would the criteria be to close?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 17, 2013, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Why is nobody addressing the elephant in the room? There are too many hurling clubs in west Belfast. Yes?

Yes - very true.
I wouldn't say it's the biggest problem but true nonetheless.
The following happens regularly:

"Wee joey" is a great hurler and plays for a weak club.
He gets fed up getting stuffed every week by the strong clubs.
Because of the rivalry / club loyalty / football - he doesn't transfer.
Joeys mates and soon himself give up on hurling because its seemingly going nowhere.

End result - hurling ability & potential lost.

Solution?
Allowing all players at all grades to play for separate clubs in separate codes?
Would so-called weaker clubs encourage their players to go elsewhere?
Is this fair on them?

Not an easy one lads!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on August 17, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 17, 2013, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 17, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Why is nobody addressing the elephant in the room? There are too many hurling clubs in west Belfast. Yes?

Yes - very true.
I wouldn't say it's the biggest problem but true nonetheless.
The following happens regularly:

"Wee joey" is a great hurler and plays for a weak club.
He gets fed up getting stuffed every week by the strong clubs.
Because of the rivalry / club loyalty / football - he doesn't transfer.
Joeys mates and soon himself give up on hurling because its seemingly going nowhere.

End result - hurling ability & potential lost.

Solution?
Allowing all players at all grades to play for separate clubs in separate codes?
Would so-called weaker clubs encourage their players to go elsewhere?
Is this fair on them?

Not an easy one lads!

That is a tough one. My club are traditionally a football club but are probably now at a similar level in both codes (poor!). A few years ago there was some crossover with another club who were exclusively a hurling club. However, now at underage level there is amalgamation with other clubs which makes sense. All any club needs is probably 2-3 players stepping up from minor level each year to sustain a senior team.
Also when I played minor football our team was decent enough to be narrowly beaten in a county minor QF in football. We probably had a chance to go the whole way but of that team only one played any great part in the senior team. A very poor return from a decent minor team. There has always traditionally been a poor step up from minor to senior in a lot of clubs for various reasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 18, 2013, 07:36:06 AM
Too many hurling clubs in West Belfast? No chance, places like Armoy, Carey, Cushendun and Glenariff can sustain good hurling teams with populations of less than 1000 people. There are streets in West Belfast with more than 1000 people. The key is having strong, committed club men and coaches involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 18, 2013, 08:46:02 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2013, 07:36:06 AM
Too many hurling clubs in West Belfast? No chance, places like Armoy, Carey, Cushendun and Glenariff can sustain good hurling teams with populations of less than 1000 people. There are streets in West Belfast with more than 1000 people. The key is having strong, committed club men and coaches involved.

Oh dear. Here we go again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2013, 08:55:12 AM
JJ there are 17 clubs in that area. The people from there, that post on this board, are telling you there are too many clubs. I'll take their word against yours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 18, 2013, 10:11:18 AM
Differing perspectives

There are not enough kids playing our games in Belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2013, 03:46:38 PM
Dunloy 3-20 ballycran 0-05 ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 18, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
Glenariffe 2-12 Ballygalget 0-18 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on August 18, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
thats some score dunloy put up.are they peaking at the right time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 18, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
The population of West Belfast is bigger now that it was twenty or thirty years ago and nobody thought there were too many clubs back then. We need to look at the promotion of hurling properly, start getting the kids back from other sports and activities. The population of West Belfast is approx 90,000 people, if hurling was being promoted properly and if ALL the clubs were putting the proper effort and resources into it you'd have no problem sustaining 17 clubs. Going on the numbers the likes of Cloughmills, Carey, Cushendun and some of the other country teams are working with West Belfast should sustain far more than just 17 clubs. If we start reducing the amount of clubs in Belfast its like giving up and admitting we aren't prepared to address the problems that exist in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 18, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
There are a lot more distractions in the city also. Not everyone is a gaa fan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 18, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
My point exactly SIE, not everyone is a GAA fan but from what I see when I'm at matches in Belfast we aren't doing much to change that. No marketing, no advertising and nothing to entice people to bring their children to gaelic games. We should be looking at a programme to recruit new members, not amalgamtate clubs. The population is there if we put in the work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2013, 09:13:53 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 17, 2013, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 15, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 13, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 13, 2013, 01:56:01 PM
We have people here in Antrim being paid too!

Maybe they're just not as good they're job.
Or maybe the money isn't being spent as well.

The idea that the GAA threw a blank cheque into Dublin hurling - and it magically produced results is crazy and naive.
Our top club teams may beat their top club teams - but underneath that Dublin hurling is much stronger than ours. The schools & colleges are further evidence.
That's not just because of "investment plain and simple"

btdtgtt

Im sorry but you are missing the point here, Dublin did not put 'development officers' around the county of Dublin, they with the clubs put them into individual clubs. A full time paid person developing a specific club, writing development plans, encouraging coaches to come to the club, upskilling these coaches and anything else to help the club progress.

Our one development officer for the whole of Belfast and one for North Antrim is a drop in the ocean to this.

Dublin had a coherent and well thought out plan to try and get funding to put in place, now there was a 'get belfast to hurl' initiative a few years back whatever happened there? Nothing, diddly squat.

Dublin clubs fund 50% of their full time coaches salary, how many Belfast clubs could do the same? How many Belfast clubs have the resources of a Ballyboden, a Kilmacud Crokes, or the other many dual clubs with up to 1000 paying members?

There are very few similarities GAA wise between Dublin and Belfast, Waterford would possibly be a better bet.


Very valid point JC. Another point is that the coaches in the clubs in Dublin are GAA coaches not just hurling coaches. They have to develop both codes so that means the same amount of training sessions, there aren't just hurling only clubs in Dublin.

Funnily enough got talking to a lad who used to hurl with us years ago and now lives in Dublin. He was up visiting the parents and called in when we'd a league game vrs Dunloy, he'd a young fella roughly 8 years old and they have training sessions half hurling, half football during the week and every Saturday they'd be at a go games blitz, one week football, the next week hurling.
These youngsters are guaranteed a game every Saturday without fail for most of the summer months, would an 8 year old in Belfast, Antrim or Down have the same guarantees? I'd doubt it, although it has improved in Down since my days, but IMO its one of the reasons young lads drift off to the soccer where they will get regular games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
JC - Is big Magic away again ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 19, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
JC - Is big Magic away again ?

He was stateside but is back now. He can't play until the 1st of September due to those temporary summer transfers so I'd be expecting our neighbours to attempt to rearrange our fixture with them in the coming weeks/days.

Who's your last match against?

I think we've still Portaferry, Rossa and possibly the Dall all at home I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2013, 12:37:03 PM
we are more or less done for the league season now. a re arranged league game in cdall to play and i cant see it being played for some time.

we actually did well to get through all the games, 17 intotal which isnt bad going. the cdall game was cancelled due to antrim playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 19, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
JC - Is big Magic away again ?

He was stateside but is back now. He can't play until the 1st of September due to those temporary summer transfers so I'd be expecting our neighbours to attempt to rearrange our fixture with them in the coming weeks/days.

Who's your last match against?

I think we've still Portaferry, Rossa and possibly the Dall all at home I believe.

Last game is against Ballycastle, happy enough to get a draw yesterday, looked like youse were getting on top in the second half and got a penalty which may have finished us off but the player opted for a point and we got a goal shortly after and it was tight the rest of the way in. Was a hard fought game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2013, 01:03:22 PM
We seem to be taking one step forward, then two steps back recently. Get a few lads back from injury and suspension and then another drops out due to injury or in-house discipline. I suppose its better to get this out of the way now as our championship isn't for another 6 weeks or so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 19, 2013, 08:40:11 PM
Is the Down club final played around the same time as the Antrim final or later/earlier? Who gets the by this year or are Bredagh in it again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 20, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
I see our reserves have to travel to Ballygalget for 7.15pm tonight for the semi final of the reserve championship. We'll also be playing the game without any minors who have championship on Friday night. 52 weeks in the year and both these matches are being played within 4 days of each other. Madness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2013, 08:39:25 AM
dont talk JJ. we had to play a senior football match last wednesday night and the reserve hurling championship in portaferry! utter madness as our lads play both and they needed to win that football match to have anychance of promotion to div 2.

as per usual our county are a joke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2013, 08:47:43 AM
I see the retention of Dowson as football manager has went down well.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on August 20, 2013, 09:25:53 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 20, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
I see our reserves have to travel to Ballygalget for 7.15pm tonight for the semi final of the reserve championship. We'll also be playing the game without any minors who have championship on Friday night. 52 weeks in the year and both these matches are being played within 4 days of each other. Madness.

Couldn't agree more JJ.  We have Minor Football Championship Semi tonight v Rossa, Sen Reserve Semi tomorrow night v Portaferry and then Minor Hurling Semi on Friday night in Ahoghill.  There are about 7 guys involved in all 3 games!  Regardless of the Senior Reserve game, why ask Minors to play two massive games in the space of 3 days, our good friends up the Shaws Rd are in the same boat with their minors.  It appears that this County punishes you for trying to be a successful dual club!  This is a perpetual problem, we continue to hinder and stiffle progess.  The Development Day on the 31st August, guaranteed talking shop, no action plan or output.  The "County" or the clubs as we are always told hosted 3 evenings last year in Dunsilly to talk about the issues affecting our county, I attended one of them on behalf of the club, never seen an out come from those nights, why would this one be any different?

Time for a clear our, the Moderator on the official County Website loves putting it back on the clubs, ie. we decide fixtures etc, complete hogwash, I don't remember agreeing this fixture madness that happens even August! 

It's quite telling that our main County officials have had more clubs that Jack Nicolas FFS!!!  They don't understand the pressures and issues that clubs face on a day to day basis.  Numbers are down in all clubs, we struggle to get lads out to fulfill fixtures.  Spread the thing out!  Don't run all our championships in August and throw in a few league games for the craic, where clubs need points to stay up!!  Open your eyes or more importantly your ears.  PS What an appointment for the footballers!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 20, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
I see our reserves have to travel to Ballygalget for 7.15pm tonight for the semi final of the reserve championship. We'll also be playing the game without any minors who have championship on Friday night. 52 weeks in the year and both these matches are being played within 4 days of each other. Madness.


I'm actually shocked that we've a home game in this reserve championship, the first one in the 6 or 7 years we've been in it.

It's a big ask to get a team down the country for that time and the nights are beginning to shorten..


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 19, 2013, 08:40:11 PM
Is the Down club final played around the same time as the Antrim final or later/earlier? Who gets the by this year or are Bredagh in it again?

Down final is normally the same day as the Antrim hurling final or has been for the last few years.

Not sure about the Bredagh thing as I think there's an intermediate championship of sorts in Down with the Ards clubs reserves and Bredagh, but no matter what happens Bredagh would be the only ones able to go and compete in the Ulster Intermediate championship. I suppose its a few competitive games for them, so no harm done and it'd do our reserves the power of good as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 20, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
I see our reserves have to travel to Ballygalget for 7.15pm tonight for the semi final of the reserve championship. We'll also be playing the game without any minors who have championship on Friday night. 52 weeks in the year and both these matches are being played within 4 days of each other. Madness.


I'm actually shocked that we've a home game in this reserve championship, the first one in the 6 or 7 years we've been in it.

It's a big ask to get a team down the country for that time and the nights are beginning to shorten..


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 19, 2013, 08:40:11 PM
Is the Down club final played around the same time as the Antrim final or later/earlier? Who gets the by this year or are Bredagh in it again?

Down final is normally the same day as the Antrim hurling final or has been for the last few years.

Not sure about the Bredagh thing as I think there's an intermediate championship of sorts in Down with the Ards clubs reserves and Bredagh, but no matter what happens Bredagh would be the only ones able to go and compete in the Ulster Intermediate championship. I suppose its a few competitive games for them, so no harm done and it'd do our reserves the power of good as well.

JC in all seriousness are you able to field a reserve team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.

And do you think it is fair that you get to play in a competition that you could only field a team in if you got a home draw?
Not running you down but if you dont have the numbers you dont have the numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.

And do you think it is fair that you get to play in a competition that you could only field a team in if you got a home draw?
Not running you down but if you dont have the numbers you dont have the numbers.

Maybe you're misunderstanding me, because our seniors aren't tying up 15 players as they would on a given sunday then that'll free up maybe three or 4 lads not named on the first 15 at the start of the year to play. Injuries and what not force us to dig into our reserves, when playing two games on the one day.

The fact that its at home helps lads who'd maybe struggle to get to Cushendall on time from where they work, I'm sure we're no different from any other club in that regard. I'm sure Cushendall would have a stronger team out if it was a home game for them, hardly cheating is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.

And do you think it is fair that you get to play in a competition that you could only field a team in if you got a home draw?
Not running you down but if you dont have the numbers you dont have the numbers.

Maybe you're misunderstanding me, because our seniors aren't tying up 15 players as they would on a given sunday then that'll free up maybe three or 4 lads not named on the first 15 at the start of the year to play. Injuries and what not force us to dig into our reserves, when playing two games on the one day.

The fact that its at home helps lads who'd maybe struggle to get to Cushendall on time from where they work, I'm sure we're no different from any other club in that regard. I'm sure Cushendall would have a stronger team out if it was a home game for them, hardly cheating is it?

Wasnt accusing you of cheating in any shape or form, my point was more than you have failed to field a reserve team on the road this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.

And do you think it is fair that you get to play in a competition that you could only field a team in if you got a home draw?
Not running you down but if you dont have the numbers you dont have the numbers.

Maybe you're misunderstanding me, because our seniors aren't tying up 15 players as they would on a given sunday then that'll free up maybe three or 4 lads not named on the first 15 at the start of the year to play. Injuries and what not force us to dig into our reserves, when playing two games on the one day.

The fact that its at home helps lads who'd maybe struggle to get to Cushendall on time from where they work, I'm sure we're no different from any other club in that regard. I'm sure Cushendall would have a stronger team out if it was a home game for them, hardly cheating is it?

Wasnt accusing you of cheating in any shape or form, my point was more than you have failed to field a reserve team on the road this year.

yes we have, but we've not been the only ones in recent history, Dunloy had 13 down in Ballygalget a few years back for whatever circumstances, exams, injuries etc, I wouldn't have prevented them from fielding a reserve championship team later on in the year for it, would you?

That would have been pretty harsh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 11:59:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 20, 2013, 11:01:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 20, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
At home and the seniors not playing also, then yes should be OK.

We managed to put out a thirds team last night mostly minors and a few never beens, so everyone must be back from their holidays.

And do you think it is fair that you get to play in a competition that you could only field a team in if you got a home draw?
Not running you down but if you dont have the numbers you dont have the numbers.

Maybe you're misunderstanding me, because our seniors aren't tying up 15 players as they would on a given sunday then that'll free up maybe three or 4 lads not named on the first 15 at the start of the year to play. Injuries and what not force us to dig into our reserves, when playing two games on the one day.

The fact that its at home helps lads who'd maybe struggle to get to Cushendall on time from where they work, I'm sure we're no different from any other club in that regard. I'm sure Cushendall would have a stronger team out if it was a home game for them, hardly cheating is it?

Wasnt accusing you of cheating in any shape or form, my point was more than you have failed to field a reserve team on the road this year.

This is the first time in a few years that we haven't played the reserve cup, was thinking about it a couple of weeks ago and mentioned to one of the lads at the club but they knew nothing of it.

If we get a point from our last 3 games we'll be in Div 1 next year and then have a reserve team, that means no South Antrim team playing on a monday night!! Which will effectively screw me from playing hurling ffs!!

I'll be refereeing on Sundays same time no doubt and be unable to make them >:( We won the South Antrim league and Championship this year so not bad going, finished off with a brace of points last night so happy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
The Dall beat us by 4 points I think in the end. Their superior fitness (the most of their team looked like they trained regularly, unlike some of our lads) and better team work got them through on a 3 to 4 point victory. They played with the wind and should have had a better lead than the three points they had at half time.

We'd managed to get it back to a two point game and then a bit of a controversial decision, which in all fairness to H Torney isn't easy to call with two partisan umpires. The ball was dropping just over the bar and the Dall keeper blocked it down right on the goal-line, and the on-running forward stuck the ball in the net, Dall umpire flagged for the initial point, Galget umpire flagged for the goal, near impossible for Torney to know if the keeper had pulled the ball back from behind the crossbar or not, he awarded the point. In saying that when the Dall keeper saw the ball in the back of the net, he thumped the hurl off the ground, he knew he'd messed up, got away with it this time though.

Ran out of steam for the Dall to pick off the points to open the margin again. In all the better team won and no complaints could be had from our side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
We had 16 players for our game in portaferry. The sub was a kid who was 17 and never played reserve.

Utter joke to ask fellas to travel to portaferry on a wed evening for a 7pm start as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
We had 16 players for our game in portaferry. The sub was a kid who was 17 and never played reserve.

Utter joke to ask fellas to travel to portaferry on a wed evening for a 7pm start as well!

Would you have had a stronger team at home???  ;)

We'd three 17 year olds starting and one came on later on, does them no harm..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 21, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 21, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
We had 16 players for our game in portaferry. The sub was a kid who was 17 and never played reserve.

Utter joke to ask fellas to travel to portaferry on a wed evening for a 7pm start as well!

Would you have had a stronger team at home???  ;)

We'd three 17 year olds starting and one came on later on, does them no harm..
I dont't know lads but it seems to me that whoever is looking after the fixtures in recent seasons is either severly stretched or there are now too many variables throughout the season which prevents fixtures being published at the start of the year. Its not a task i would relish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2013, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 21, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
We had 16 players for our game in portaferry. The sub was a kid who was 17 and never played reserve.

Utter joke to ask fellas to travel to portaferry on a wed evening for a 7pm start as well!

Would you have had a stronger team at home???  ;)

We'd three 17 year olds starting and one came on later on, does them no harm..
We had a senior football at home that night as well so that took players away.

We lost a few lads to work so if it had of been at home we prob would have been stronger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2013, 06:38:35 PM
Minor semi finals tomorrow night, any predictions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2013, 07:19:36 AM
Should be HS, looking forward to it. The league game was a cracker as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
Ryan giving off stink in the IN today. Seems to be preparing for a tanking in U-21s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
Ryan giving off stink in the IN today. Seems to be preparing for a tanking in U-21s.
Are these the same u21s that are going to win an all Ireland in 3 years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
Ryan giving off stink in the IN today. Seems to be preparing for a tanking in U-21s.
Are these the same u21s that are going to win an all Ireland in 3 years?
Give it 5  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on August 24, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
Ryan giving off stink in the IN today. Seems to be preparing for a tanking in U-21s.

So far, so good!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on August 24, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Antrim 2-07 0-09 Clare HT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on August 24, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
Antrim 2-07 0-09 Clare HT

Wexford !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on August 24, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
Antrim playing really well!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
please God we'll win a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
7 ahead. 16 minutes left..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
2-12 to 0-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
0-11 - 2-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
10 to go. 2-13 to 0-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
0-13 - 2-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
0-13 - 2-15   :) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:13:32 PM
0-14 - 2-15  55 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
1-15 - 2-15   :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
couple of minutes left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:16:57 PM
1-16 - 2-15 last minute

*check

Final score. Proud of these young fellas.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on August 24, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
My God!!  Huge result.  Fantastic display!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 24, 2013, 05:21:36 PM
What a performance, from absolute hammerings last few years to that. What a day this is. Kevin Ryan, what a man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on August 24, 2013, 05:26:29 PM
There'll be some turn out at the next training night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on August 24, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
Thoroughly enjoyed that- full of heart- well done Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 24, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
All Ireland Final Saturday 14th Sptember. Venue tbc...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
To quote Johnny-  "imagine what could be achieved".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 24, 2013, 05:58:52 PM
Magic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 24, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Congratulations to every single player today. Proud day to be an Antrim hurling supporter. They all contributed positively and instead of Antrim making all the substitutions as the game went on it was Wexford. Maybe Wexford's heads were in the final already but they didnt perform today.

Massive congratulation to Kevin Ryan not just for working with the players but getting to them believe plus he also called it right in the paper yesterday about the county board scheduling football championship this weekend. What utter contempt they were showing for this competition but sure they always have! However im sure they will all be looking for seats on the bus to the final no doubt.

Finally amazing to see some posters on here already being so happy and excited after criticizing their county and Kevin Ryan all year. Hypocrites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 24, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Congratulations to every single player today. Proud day to be an Antrim hurling supporter. They all contributed positively and instead of Antrim making all the substitutions as the game went on it was Wexford. Maybe Wexford's heads were in the final already but they didnt perform today.

Massive congratulation to Kevin Ryan not just for working with the players but getting to them believe plus he also called it right in the paper yesterday about the county board scheduling football championship this weekend. What utter contempt they were showing for this competition but sure they always have! However im sure they will all be looking for seats on the bus to the final no doubt.

Finally amazing to see some posters on here already being so happy and excited after criticizing their county and Kevin Ryan all year. Hypocrites.

Yeah fair fcuks to Ryan and the players who were by all accounts hampered by the county, young McGuinness was playing for Rossa today, not sure if Jackson (edit. he played for Antrim)was playing or down in Ahoghill with our seniors but they have been put in a position that should not have happened.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSctZKvIEAA03j8.jpg:large)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2013, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 24, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Congratulations to every single player today. Proud day to be an Antrim hurling supporter. They all contributed positively and instead of Antrim making all the substitutions as the game went on it was Wexford. Maybe Wexford's heads were in the final already but they didnt perform today.

Massive congratulation to Kevin Ryan not just for working with the players but getting to them believe plus he also called it right in the paper yesterday about the county board scheduling football championship this weekend. What utter contempt they were showing for this competition but sure they always have! However im sure they will all be looking for seats on the bus to the final no doubt.

Finally amazing to see some posters on here already being so happy and excited after criticizing their county and Kevin Ryan all year. Hypocrites.
The Antrim attendance today indicates how many gave them a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2013, 07:45:08 PM
Few and far between TB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2013, 09:22:50 PM
An outstanding result!
Well done to all concerned!
It's not being negative to say most of us acknowledge this is a bolt from the blue - but lets just enjoy it and hope it inspires everyone to make sure it occurs more often.
Great day for Antrim - and an even better one to come!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 24, 2013, 09:44:51 PM
Surely the county board will have to take a look/rearrange championship fixtures for weekend of 14th/15th - should Bcastle & Cdall successfully make it through to semi final stage it will have massive impact on their starting 15. Thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on August 24, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 24, 2013, 09:22:50 PM
An outstanding result!
Well done to all concerned!
It's not being negative to say most of us acknowledge this is a bolt from the blue - but lets just enjoy it and hope it inspires everyone to make sure it occurs more often.
Great day for Antrim - and an even better one to come!

Dead right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 24, 2013, 10:24:31 PM
well done to the lads. very very proud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on August 24, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
Great result for the wee Saffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 24, 2013, 10:47:38 PM
Quote from: glens abu on August 24, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
Great result for the wee Saffs.

Matthew Donnelly?   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2013, 12:45:54 AM
Long oul drive. She's worth it sometimes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 25, 2013, 07:30:50 AM
Unreal result, I was at it along with 5 other Antrim supporters. That was it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on August 25, 2013, 07:47:52 AM
Didnt see that coming at all. A tremendous result. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 25, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
brilliant result, hopefully now we can build on that both for final but for the following years.  a lift not only for county but also kevin ryan which I am sure is badly needed after some of the attitudes to the county set up this year at all levels.

however and I am not saying this for reaction or to annoy.  with the both teams going into the final at full pelt I would suggest a 10- 15 point defeat would still highlight progress this year.  first time to reach final in the 50 years of the competition super.  would love to see minors progress to finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2013, 09:55:15 AM
Still can't believe that we won last night. For the first time in years we are able to be proud of an Antrim team, something we all have wanted.

I'm like others and have trekked to games in mullingar, navan and portlaois etc this year and its been tough to watch. Hell I was one of about 100 people who got their ass froze at the Walsh shild final. So this result hav made me smile and think that Kevin Ryan could be the man to push Antrim forward.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 25, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
Considering that attendance's at training were poor ... what are we to read into yesterdays great result?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2013, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 25, 2013, 11:29:14 AM
Considering that attendance's at training were poor ... what are we to read into yesterdays great result?

A combination of everything going right, goals in the first half and great defence. Also if you think about the time of year, a lot of these lads are training hard for championship, they have plenty of games behind them and their first touch should be good, plus the alignment of the stars and Jupiter and Saturn crashed!!!

Begs the question will there be places available for others now that we are in the final if attendances at training was poor. Young McGuinness played for his club in the SFC yesterday and was named as a starter in Thurles, will he be shafted?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 25, 2013, 01:50:00 PM
MR2 he was already shafted when the county board sheduled a club championship match at the same time as the u-21 semi final. He was put in a no win situation. All the same there is no way they could go with anything other than the 15 that started the semi final. Each player gave everything and I couldn't pick anyone out and say they didn't play well, phenomenal performance all round. Delighted to have been there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2013, 01:59:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 25, 2013, 01:50:00 PM
MR2 he was already shafted when the county board sheduled a club championship match at the same time as the u-21 semi final. He was put in a no win situation. All the same there is no way they could go with anything other than the 15 that started the semi final. Each player gave everything and I couldn't pick anyone out and say they didn't play well, phenomenal performance all round. Delighted to have been there.

The problem will have been the dates, the County would have had their dates fixed a long time ago, Croke park would have had also their own dates. Who is appointed to ensure that these dates don't clash? and if a clash is there what are the options? Looking in from the outside I'd say Croke Park aren't going to change their fixtures and possibly with this being a championship match at County level then that may take preference, the thing then could the two games that were played on Saturday be shifted to the Sunday and the Sunday game (Lamhs v Cargin) have been played on the Saturday? 

It's seems that was the easy thing to do but not knowing the workings of the fixture committees I wouldn't comment until i knew
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Cant understand how anyone would pick a senior football club game over all Ireland semi for your county, or why your club and county board would force you to choose. mc Guinness should deffo not get a look in for final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Cant understand how anyone would pick a senior football club game over all Ireland semi for your county, or why your club and county board would force you to choose. mc Guinness should deffo not get a look in for final

Don't be silly, these players are first and foremost memebers of a club, they train all year round to play in their clubs championship, McGuinness is a big player for that team, he has decided to play for his club, no doubt there was requests to have the games moved, as this was common practice throughout the year.

If you ever get into that position where two managers are wanting you to play in a championship match then you'd be happy to snub your club/mates/supporters, very hard I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 25, 2013, 06:18:28 PM
yeah McGuinness would have picked club don't think he can be blamed for that at all.
BLAME should be put firmly at the door of the Antrim fixtures committee.  AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 25, 2013, 07:37:17 PM
also notice antrim twitter account highlighting what newspapers and journalists said about antrim being ill prepared etc

hope they are going to bang on about that considering how they played a part in facilitating how poorly performed the saffron have been.

don't like saying it (because sick of the southerns talking about keep the game going up there and all) but we will get an answer in final as to were we are at.

would love to be travelling knowing we put in the same effort as clare.  then I would know we would be giving it one hell of a rattle

would like a comparison of the clare team this past number of years and how fixtures are handled etc.  compared to our own.  that young McGuiness is a real talent and there are others if we could get the structures to support them.

Kevin Ryan interview said it all. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 25, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
I have some knowledge of Christopher McGuinness. He should definitely be part of the U21 panel that prepares for the final. He is a great lad as well as a great prospect and he should not be in a situation where he has to choose between the two games on Saturday. If he is not included in the panel for the All Ireland Final then what message does that send to him and others about continuing to play our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on August 25, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Sums up Antrim in one post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 25, 2013, 11:48:32 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on August 25, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Explain.

Know of McGuinness and understand he did all he could to facilitate being able to play in both. For the life of me still don't know why Rossa v St Pauls was not moved to Saturday.

Missing Saturday's performance/result is surely punishment enough for a pretty dedicated dual player.


Sums up Antrim in one post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:22:48 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature
Surely a county putting club championship fixtures on at the same time = a county who doesn't give a fcuk about him or the U21 AI semi? Yes or No?
Now, why should he?
He gave loyalty to his club, which through underage hurling and football, made him the player he is today. Without his club he wouldn't have had a sniff of an Antrim jersey. An honourable decision.

Run his club down as a 'second rate' whatever the fcuk you want, I'm just glad that Cricky holds the principles of the GAA which appear to be lost on you.
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Some fair points. I didn't run his club down I just wouldn't view club  football at same level as county hurling. I'm a club man through and through and id never ask one of our county men to choose club game over county but sure everyones different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 26, 2013, 09:23:54 AM
as far as i am aware (correct me of im wrong - but i dont think i am)

The Club involved where asked to move the match but the manager said NO, said player will be playing football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 26, 2013, 09:52:30 AM
Sorry, the club where asked did they want the game changed / moved by the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 26, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
Final is the 14th in thurles is it not?

Clashes with the set dates for the hurling semi finals so in assume they will be moved now?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2013, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Well the Antrim club champions are tired of beating second rate Derry champions lately, if we are second rate whats that make Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 26, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Great result but I have a feeling it may have been a total aberration, hope not though, time will tell. Media folk can't even fire out the "there is great work being done in........" due to the well publicised "preparations" for this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on August 26, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 26, 2013, 10:53:15 AM
Great result but I have a feeling it may have been a total aberration, hope not though, time will tell. Media folk can't even fire out the "there is great work being done in........" due to the well publicised "preparations" for this game.

Great result but i agree a small bit. In these games you have to get ahead and stay ahead in order to garner belief. Its like any team hoping to topple Lougheill or St Galls--have to get ahead and stay there.

Preparations were farsical as we have become accostomed to, not helped by the apathetic County Board to which we are also well used.
The result was one no one expected, id hope we could give the final a real rattle, get ahead and stay there. I fear that we go behind and suddenly its a 6, then 10, then 15 point game.

If we play in AI semi finals every year through winning Ulster U21 its inevitable we would win 1 eventually. Just hope we can push on and im proven to know nothing, and that we really do have a great team.

Fair play to the players and Kevin and Neil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
I think the credit first and foremost must be given to the players and their clubs for preparing them properly throughout the year. More clubs bringing S&C to their seasons preparations so these lads we're able to line out in good condition ready and able for a battle

Kevin Ryan and his backroom to their credit have obviously not panicked at the lack of preparation as they realized they had a good amount of talent in the squad and got the players organised as a group to go out and try and achieve something.

So well done. I can see an 89 final though ...hope I'm totally wrong

Lets be balanced and say that Wexford didn't look that well prepared either (although they possibly had for all I know)

   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 26, 2013, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
I think the credit first and foremost must be given to the players and their clubs for preparing them properly throughout the year. More clubs bringing S&C to their seasons preparations so these lads we're able to line out in good condition ready and able for a battle

Kevin Ryan and his backroom to their credit have obviously not panicked at the lack of preparation as they realized they had a good amount of talent in the squad and got the players organised as a group to go out and try and achieve something.

So well done. I can see an 89 final though ...hope I'm totally wrong

Lets be balanced and say that Wexford didn't look that well prepared either (although they possibly had for all I know)



It certainly was an aberration but bloody hell!

I think an awful lot went our way:

i.) we got out in front early and stayed there - Antrim teams rarely do coming from behind victories;

ii.) we got a lucky break for the first goal (and arguably for the second when the last defender slipped, although that's a bit harsh on Clarke)

iii.) we had a big lead going into the last 10 minutes and needed (almost) all of it, for confidence reasons if nothing else

iv.) we had a couple of lucky breaks in defence

v.) Wexford - players and management - clearly underestimated us, whatever spin is put on it

vi.) Wexford management weren't able (or didn't think it necessary) to adapt in response to our tactics

That said, there was an enormous amount of positives:

a.) well, we won!!!

b.) whatever about the lack of formal training sessions, the team were fit;

c.) a core group of players have clearly bought into Ryan, whatever about the sniping here and elsewhere

d.) Ryan came up with a game plan and, more importantly, the players were willing and able were able to execute it;

e.) the basic skills were executed well in poor conditions and while under pressure, particularly towards the end of the game. In most counties that would be taken as a given but not always with us.

As for the final, there has been a lot of talk of shades of 89 etc. Its a bit unfortunate that we are coming up against a very impressive Clare who will be raging hot favourites. That said, I think creating a buzz around the county for the next 3 weeks and, more importantly, building on that buzz after the final, however it goes, is to me more important than the result. That said, I think it is essential we don't simply capitulate.

Anyway,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 26, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on August 26, 2013, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
I think the credit first and foremost must be given to the players and their clubs for preparing them properly throughout the year. More clubs bringing S&C to their seasons preparations so these lads we're able to line out in good condition ready and able for a battle

Kevin Ryan and his backroom to their credit have obviously not panicked at the lack of preparation as they realized they had a good amount of talent in the squad and got the players organised as a group to go out and try and achieve something.

So well done. I can see an 89 final though ...hope I'm totally wrong

Lets be balanced and say that Wexford didn't look that well prepared either (although they possibly had for all I know)



It certainly was an aberration but bloody hell!

I think an awful lot went our way:

i.) we got out in front early and stayed there - Antrim teams rarely do coming from behind victories;

ii.) we got a lucky break for the first goal (and arguably for the second when the last defender slipped, although that's a bit harsh on Clarke)

iii.) we had a big lead going into the last 10 minutes and needed (almost) all of it, for confidence reasons if nothing else

iv.) we had a couple of lucky breaks in defence

v.) Wexford - players and management - clearly underestimated us, whatever spin is put on it

vi.) Wexford management weren't able (or didn't think it necessary) to adapt in response to our tactics

That said, there was an enormous amount of positives:

a.) well, we won!!!

b.) whatever about the lack of formal training sessions, the team were fit;

c.) a core group of players have clearly bought into Ryan, whatever about the sniping here and elsewhere

d.) Ryan came up with a game plan and, more importantly, the players were willing and able were able to execute it;

e.) the basic skills were executed well in poor conditions and while under pressure, particularly towards the end of the game. In most counties that would be taken as a given but not always with us.

As for the final, there has been a lot of talk of shades of 89 etc. Its a bit unfortunate that we are coming up against a very impressive Clare who will be raging hot favourites. That said, I think creating a buzz around the county for the next 3 weeks and, more importantly, building on that buzz after the final, however it goes, is to me more important than the result. That said, I think it is essential we don't simply capitulate.

Anyway,
After the match at the weekend there should the belief there that they can take on anyone so hopefully we won't see a total tanking. A small percentage of the people now clamouring for buses etc to the final would have given them a chance on Saturday so it shows how big a deal it is. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Your second rate football comment is hugely patronising.

Do you play the game at all?

The biggest game in club footballers calendar are their championship games - be they senior, junior or intermediate. What is the guy to say? Ah well we're a second rate football team i'll not bother?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on August 26, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 26, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Your second rate football comment is hugely patronising.

Do you play the game at all?

The biggest game in club footballers calendar are their championship games - be they senior, junior or intermediate. What is the guy to say? Ah well we're a second rate football team i'll not bother?
no reason why these fixtures couldnt be moved.the county have ruined about 4 fellas chances of starting an all ireland final.there are some plonkers in casement holding important positions who are never held responsible for their idiotic actions.whenever u complain about it on county website,the plonker never prints it.these guys bury their heads in the sand,pat each other on the back and tell each other theyre doin a great job when they couldnt be any further away from the truth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 26, 2013, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 26, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 26, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Your second rate football comment is hugely patronising.

Do you play the game at all?

The biggest game in club footballers calendar are their championship games - be they senior, junior or intermediate. What is the guy to say? Ah well we're a second rate football team i'll not bother?
no reason why these fixtures couldnt be moved.the county have ruined about 4 fellas chances of starting an all ireland final.there are some plonkers in casement holding important positions who are never held responsible for their idiotic actions.whenever u complain about it on county website,the plonker never prints it.these guys bury their heads in the sand,pat each other on the back and tell each other theyre doin a great job when they couldnt be any further away from the truth.

Antrim's U21 hurling heroes to return to Thurles for All-Ireland final
The Saffron county face Clare in the decider on September 14th.


ANTRIM'S U21 SIDE will return to the site of last Saturday's famous triumph when they meet Clare in this year's Bord Gáis Energy All-Ireland U21 hurling final.

Semple Stadium in Thurles was confirmed today as the venue for the game on Saturday September 14th.

Despite Antrim's players and supporters having to embark on a far longer trip to the Tipperary venue than their counterparts in Clare, the GAA have opted to stick with Semple Stadium to host the game.

Semple Stadium has been the venue for the last three All-Ireland U21 finals although controversy erupted in 2010 when Galway protested at having to play the game there given their opponents Tipperary were playing in their home pitch.

In the wake of that episode, the GAA ruled that all future U21 hurling finals would be played at Semple Stadium but an alternative venue would be chosen if Tipperary were one of the participating counties.

There will be a throw-in time of 5pm for this year's showdown with Cork's Colm Lyons the referee for the encounter.

Antrim will be the first Ulster side to contest the final of this competition after they shocked Wexford in last Saturday's semi-final despite being 12/1 outsiders beforehand to defeat the Leinster champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 26, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
no reason why these fixtures couldnt be moved.the county have ruined about 4 fellas chances of starting an all ireland final.there are some plonkers in casement holding important positions who are never held responsible for their idiotic actions.whenever u complain about it on county website,the plonker never prints it.these guys bury their heads in the sand,pat each other on the back and tell each other theyre doin a great job when they couldnt be any further away from the truth.

Couldn't agree more!

Also I find it really worrying that someone on here actually suggested a player should choose against playing senior championship for his club - how far have we come!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on August 26, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
Who votes these guys in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 26, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
Also I find it really worrying that someone on here actually suggested a player should choose against playing senior championship for his club - how far have we come!

Just one eejit

Quote from: Kid Twist on August 26, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
Who votes these guys in?

Lets look at it this way...who queues up for these positions come AGM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:13:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2013, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2013, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
I agree that blame lies with county ccc but I just can't imagine any player in the big hurling counties opting for club over county if the situation arose. Most clubs would encourage their players to play foe county in big games, its not like Antrim or Rossa are big football powerhouses
Yeah because Antrim are a hurling powerhouse. Take yerself for a walk ffs. Disgrace that the young lad was put in such a position. The Club v County debate comes up on this board every now and again. Everyone says club.

Ha ha ha ha feckin ha. Laughin my balls off. When are Antrim footballers going to ever reach all Ireland football final. Never that's when, but yous are in a hurling final. And as someone else said here your view on club v county is a refection on the prevailing outlook within the county and one of the main reasons Antrim underachieves.
Go away, you idiot. A young fella was put in a horrible predicament by HIS COUNTY. A county which gave so little a fcuk about the U21 AI semi final that they decided to play club championship games at the same time. He decided to play with his club. And a Derry man coming on here pontificating that club v county is the reason why we underachieve is laughable, ha ha ha ha feckin ha.

How tiresome. Lets not go down the derry v Antrim debate, you'd lose of hard facts. Yes he shouldn't have been put in position I have not said anything different but I just can't understand why you'd choose second rate club football for a pot at all Ireland. Ps please refrain from insults, it brings down the tone and makes you sound frustrated and immature

Well the Antrim club champions are tired of beating second rate Derry champions lately, if we are second rate whats that make Derry?

I was referring to Rossa. They are a great club proven by their double féile win this year but they aren't going to win Antrim anytime soon. They are away off senior championship pace in Derry too, but anyhow football bores me to death.  There you go the cat is out of the bag im a football hater, I admit it, im blinded by my disdain of it. Bust all the big balls and I'll be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 26, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
no reason why these fixtures couldnt be moved.the county have ruined about 4 fellas chances of starting an all ireland final.there are some plonkers in casement holding important positions who are never held responsible for their idiotic actions.whenever u complain about it on county website,the plonker never prints it.these guys bury their heads in the sand,pat each other on the back and tell each other theyre doin a great job when they couldnt be any further away from the truth.

Couldn't agree more!

Also I find it really worrying that someone on here actually suggested a player should choose against playing senior championship for his club - how far have we come!

Worrying come off it. Syrias worrying not this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 26, 2013, 10:19:44 PM
Worrying in GAA terms - I didn't think I would need to point that out given the fact I'm posting on a GAA board you muppet.
Also - the ability level of my Rossa friends (!) is irrelevant! As if there's one decision for top clubs and another for players of lesser clubs! Club is club - end of.
I find that notion - worrying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:20:36 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on August 26, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
Who votes these guys in?

Exactly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 26, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
surely venue yet to be decided  thurles isn't exactly neutral

any mention of why county board and so many fixtures on this weekend when u21 were in a semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 26, 2013, 10:19:44 PM
Worrying in GAA terms - I didn't think I would need to point that out given the fact I'm posting on a GAA board you muppet.
Also - the ability level of my Rossa friends (!) is irrelevant! As if there's one decision for top clubs and another for players of lesser clubs! Club is club - end of.
I find that notion - worrying.

Yes there is a differnce. The harsh truth is this, ok its not all about winning, I should know my club are minnows to Rossa( who I greatly admire btw) but if your club doesn't stand a chance and a young guy gets a shot to make an all ireland would you not say right lad go for it and good luck. Anyhow its good for Antrim that yous have the predicament to deal with, the young lad must be very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2013, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 26, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
surely venue yet to be decided  thurles isn't exactly neutral

any mention of why county board and so many fixtures on this weekend when u21 were in a semi

All u-21 finals set for Thurles as far as I know, unless Tipp are in the final after Galway having to play Tipp in Thurles in the final a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2013, 10:20:36 PM
Quote from: Kid Twist on August 26, 2013, 09:55:13 PM
Who votes these guys in?

Exactly
The Knights of St. Columbanus.
;)

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 26, 2013, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2013, 10:39:36 PM
Oh aye, he said "Can you keep your head still please".

I get the feeling your shoulders were bopping up n down trying to contain urself, need to call in to c that barber see if he has any good news for other champ outsiders(us)just.. need some hair first
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
I think cushendall will end up beating the johnnies handy enough. The fact us that come championship time there's still a big difference between the sides.

Dunloy v Rossa could turn out to be a massacre. Rossa have always been considered the city side most likely to shock - but I think that ship has sailed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 27, 2013, 07:56:29 AM
http://clarehurlersforum.proboards.com/thread/1478?page=7

Pretty good motivation right there.

Hopefully they are given the ability by the clubs to do some good collective training over the next few weeks. Tough timing with club championships so will take a bit of working together.

Think there should be a bit of a push to get it moved from Thurles this week then if not run with it. At least they have no fear of playing there!

Amazing what a win can do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2013, 08:53:29 AM
munster venue and munster ref as well?

would that happen at senior level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
Watched a good bit of the U-21 game on TG4 and Antrim were well worth their victory even though I though Wexford got a few soft decisions near the end when it was down to 3 points. Antrim played some good smart hurling and took some nice points, The dropped in goal was certainly a gift, Clarke took his goal well and that was the platform for the win, but Antrim never panicked and if anything Wexford played into Antrims hands by pumping high ball into big Donnelly who took it and more.

Well done Antrim.

As for young lads being put in a position where they had to pick club championship over an AI semi-final, that's just plain ridiculous and something the Antrim county board should be taken to task over it by the powers that be in Croke park.

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.


The down side of the victory is that the Clare outfit are a very, very good side and you'd fear the worst, but the up side of that is that the Antrim lads have nothing to lose and give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.

Do you think he knows he's hit the nail on the head JC? I wouldnt be so sure. I've (and others) said many times over the years we should be giving this a go. More chance of getting the best 21 players to represent if they werent burdened with all the travelling to training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.

Do you think he knows he's hit the nail on the head JC? I wouldnt be so sure. I've (and others) said many times over the years we should be giving this a go. More chance of getting the best 21 players to represent if they werent burdened with all the travelling to training

Not to be looking back with 20 20 hindsight but it is no coincidence that as good performance comes from these boys a week or so out from club championships when they are all fit and their hurling should be up to a good level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.

Do you think he knows he's hit the nail on the head JC? I wouldnt be so sure. I've (and others) said many times over the years we should be giving this a go. More chance of getting the best 21 players to represent if they werent burdened with all the travelling to training

I don't think he did, but even he must wonder to himself that these lads must have been doing something right without his inputs to get to a performance like that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2013, 12:32:21 PM
Great point JC - basically the U21 success although only a one-off perhaps indicates that a vibrant and strong club scene is what really benefits the county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
to be fair the lads we have out there on sat past are all good players for their clubs at senior level.

matty, clarke and mc afee are all playing well for ballycastle, johnston the same for the johnies etc these lads are benifiting from the good standard we have at div 1 club level in hurling. Dunloy, cushendall, ballycastle, st johns plus ballycran etc make our div 1 very strong and compeitive for everyone.

belief within the county is all that holds us back. our clubs are a match for anyone as loughgiel have proven recently and not one of our clubs has headed down to a club semi final at senior level thinking they will lose nor have they let themselves down. that belief needs to be build on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.

Do you think he knows he's hit the nail on the head JC? I wouldnt be so sure. I've (and others) said many times over the years we should be giving this a go. More chance of getting the best 21 players to represent if they werent burdened with all the travelling to training

That's all well and good but the timing of the county league and the club leagues means that the players will need to be brought together early to play for Antrim in the NHL as the clubs will only be doing preseason stuff, thus the players will not be anywhere up to scratch using that method.

It's about time that these players, say a panel of 30 or an open panel, are given a programme (I know they are at the start, but there must not be too many adhering to it) where they come to training fully fit and with all their gym work done, to hone in on their touch and tactical take on the games that lie ahead.

That could be ione night a week and the clubs have their players the rest, would certainly help with club games and improve things overall, as has been said before a competitive healthy club scene will generate a better hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 27, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
belief within the county is all that holds us back. our clubs are a match for anyone as loughgiel have proven recently and not one of our clubs has headed down to a club semi final at senior level thinking they will lose nor have they let themselves down. that belief needs to be build on.

Wouldnt agree with that DR. Lack of belief is a symptom of the apathy that exists at so many levels in Antrim GAA. Too much lip service and going through the motions rather than doing something with a bit of passion and purpose (not saying they dont exist...just we are far short of the right numbers to make a meaningful difference). So a lack of properly interested adults to administrate, coach, fund raise, support and follow our young men year in year out in a consistent manner brings that lack of belief and too often apathy. Not easy to turn around as  people realize full well that to improve our lot it would involve them getting off their arses, making a few sacrifices and doing something in a committed way, so on that basis they decide to get the golf clubs (or what ever else out) and leave it to someone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 27, 2013, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 27, 2013, 09:13:38 AM

On a slightly different note, Kevin Ryan in his interview after the game was slightly bemused by the win and jokingly referred to the poor preparation the team had collectively and he'd have to rethink his ideas on how to prepare a team.
IMO he's hit the nail on the head a bit as if the clubs preparations are good, players getting plenty of competitive club games, then the onus on them going to county trainings and getting the písh run out of them again is not required. It'd should be more geared to getting them to gel together as a team and any tactical plans that need put in place.

Maybe senior inter-county pre NHL training could be more focused on fitness etc, but now at that level players should be turning up fit.

Do you think he knows he's hit the nail on the head JC? I wouldnt be so sure. I've (and others) said many times over the years we should be giving this a go. More chance of getting the best 21 players to represent if they werent burdened with all the travelling to training

That's all well and good but the timing of the county league and the club leagues means that the players will need to be brought together early to play for Antrim in the NHL as the clubs will only be doing preseason stuff, thus the players will not be anywhere up to scratch using that method.

It's about time that these players, say a panel of 30 or an open panel, are given a programme (I know they are at the start, but there must not be too many adhering to it) where they come to training fully fit and with all their gym work done, to hone in on their touch and tactical take on the games that lie ahead.

That could be ione night a week and the clubs have their players the rest, would certainly help with club games and improve things overall, as has been said before a competitive healthy club scene will generate a better hurler
County coaches would generally say that 80% of players cant be trusted to stick to a programme themselves. It's not that they don't train hard for the most part but they will generally concentrate more on the things they like or perceive to be doing them more good which can be problematic. Better than the average club player though who wouldnt bother his arse if left to his own devices. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 27, 2013, 09:31:34 PM
well really looking forward to weekend fixtures

probably be out a bob or two but as long as it get the lads a few expenses

predictions
dunloy to dispose of rossa with ease
cushendall to beat a spirited johnnies team but not after a few hiccups
shamrocks to beat the not so noisy neighbours
ballycastle to beat the oisins by over ten

I would say now dall v shamrocks final and at this point going to say the Dall are slight favourites with a bit of form

will be interested to see how loughgiel play against the town if my predictions are correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2013, 07:09:21 AM
saffron89, how could we possibly be favorites? Sure Loughgiel won the All Ireland 2 seasons ago. They are going for 4 in a row Antrim & Ulster. Are you mad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2013, 10:49:13 AM
Kevin Ryan wants Antrim to boycott the game due to the venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2013, 11:41:01 AM
Id see through it if it was Tipp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
This is daft, the venue has been picked for a while, long before we won the semi, with this in mind why did we bother to play Wexford? Now he's acting a dick, would we have been worried about playing the game in Thurles had we been playing Galway? Stupid.

What is the advantage? Because they are a neighbouring county? Christ!! if given the opportunity to play in Thurles in an All Ireland final you cut your arm off to do so and he wants to boycott it (shakes head). Croke isn't available so it's Thurles. I won't lessen the support heading down, as the same numbers will go to Tipp as they would Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Weekend Predictions

Loughgiel v Cloughmills - Loughgiel by 20+
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 7
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Anybody see any upsets?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:36:45 PM
Late to the party on the U21's as I never saw it and have to say I was shocked when I heard result.

Match reports say they played well and showed a lot of heart.  Fair play to both Kevin Ryan and Neil McManus who both put a lot of effort into trying to get the u21's moving forward.

This tak of boycotting the match is a nonsense though.  Antrim County Board wouldn't shuffle fixtures to accommodate players in an U21 AI semi-final and now we're taking about a boycott on a pre-determined venue? Laughable

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 28, 2013, 01:15:56 PM
Kinda embarrassing now. The U21 final is played in Thurles, that's the way it is. Did Kerry want the football final moved the other year cos Dublin were in it? JUst get on with it. Seems like the county board trying to make up for the fixtures shambles at the weekend.
If it's moved it only adds fuel to the fire for Clare, another Brian Corcoran moment if yo like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Weekend Predictions

Loughgiel v Cloughmills - Loughgiel by 20+
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 7
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Anybody see any upsets?

I don't see any upsets, maybe bigger margins though

Loughgiel v Cloghmills - Loughgiel by 25
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 9
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 4
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 12

Intermediate Championship:

Carey V Gortnamona - Carey by 6
Sarsfields v Clooney - Clooney by 2
Rasharkin v Armoy - Armoy by 5
Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls - lamh Dhearg by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Weekend Predictions

Loughgiel v Cloughmills - Loughgiel by 20+
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 7
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Anybody see any upsets?

I don't see any upsets, maybe bigger margins though

Loughgiel v Cloghmills - Loughgiel by 25
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 9
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 4
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 12

Intermediate Championship:

Carey V Gortnamona - Carey by 6
Sarsfields v Clooney - Clooney by 2
Rasharkin v Armoy - Armoy by 5
Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls - lamh Dhearg by 4

You are very confident of winning this one! Gorts, while not as good this while back have some quality players and if they hit a bitta form could win, Lamhs St Pauls will be very close, could go either way. Sarsfields destroyed Gaels at the Bear pit but the Gales will be a bit better this time round but I expect Sarsfields to win by 5+, Armoy should tank Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 01:57:55 PM
Just a few random thoughts on the U21 debacle:

1) Antrim have a valid point in complaining about the venue - but this is not the same as saying they are right.
2) bringing the game to Parnell (if even an ulster venue) would result in more "casual" antr
Supporters

But;

3) if a hurling game is not in croke park - Thurles is the next most prestigious venue
4) this venue has been used for several years - the teams involved may or may not affect this
5) we've already went there and won
6) the geography / travel time argument is open to many comparisons and contrast across all fixtures - it's impossible to have consistency across the board.
7) I can't help but think of the fuss caused about the venue and wonder of our county officials were so pro-active before the Wexford game.

What I can say for sure however is that any notion of a boycott is disgraceful.
Even if its a bargaining position - it's still disgraceful.
It's an all-Ireland final! U give it the honour and status it deserves regardless of who is playing and where it is played!
The notion of a boycott gives entirely the wrong impression - and even as a bargaining point will not work.

Anyway - like I say - just a few random thoughts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Weekend Predictions

Loughgiel v Cloughmills - Loughgiel by 20+
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 7
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Anybody see any upsets?

I don't see any upsets, maybe bigger margins though

Loughgiel v Cloghmills - Loughgiel by 25
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 9
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 4
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 12

Intermediate Championship:

Carey V Gortnamona - Carey by 6
Sarsfields v Clooney - Clooney by 2
Rasharkin v Armoy - Armoy by 5
Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls - lamh Dhearg by 4

You are very confident of winning this one! Gorts, while not as good this while back have some quality players and if they hit a bitta form could win, Lamhs St Pauls will be very close, could go either way. Sarsfields destroyed Gaels at the Bear pit but the Gales will be a bit better this time round but I expect Sarsfields to win by 5+, Armoy should tank Rasharkin

Our boys are certainly not taking gortnamona lightly, championship is all about on the day and we are not fooled by our respective league positions, gorts is always a tough game but I fancy Carey to come through. Clooney are probably the form team in div 2 this last couple of months and have raced up the league to 4th, have hit form at the rite time, depends which Sarsfields turn up really. Lamh V St Pauls certainly a toss of a coin although Lamh dhearg have got the bulk of their players back so should have enough to tip the scale their way. Armoy playing in the higher league should certainly take out Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Compared to yesteryear, Thurles is a doddle. I don't know what the fuss is about. A great venue and a great town.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: Long run the Faughs on August 28, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 28, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Weekend Predictions

Loughgiel v Cloughmills - Loughgiel by 20+
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 6
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 7
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 6

Anybody see any upsets?

I don't see any upsets, maybe bigger margins though

Loughgiel v Cloghmills - Loughgiel by 25
Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 9
Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 4
Ballycastle v Glenariffe - Ballycastle by 12

Intermediate Championship:

Carey V Gortnamona - Carey by 6
Sarsfields v Clooney - Clooney by 2
Rasharkin v Armoy - Armoy by 5
Lamh Dhearg v St Pauls - lamh Dhearg by 4

You are very confident of winning this one! Gorts, while not as good this while back have some quality players and if they hit a bitta form could win, Lamhs St Pauls will be very close, could go either way. Sarsfields destroyed Gaels at the Bear pit but the Gales will be a bit better this time round but I expect Sarsfields to win by 5+, Armoy should tank Rasharkin

Our boys are certainly not taking gortnamona lightly, championship is all about on the day and we are not fooled by our respective league positions, gorts is always a tough game but I fancy Carey to come through. Clooney are probably the form team in div 2 this last couple of months and have raced up the league to 4th, have hit form at the rite time, depends which Sarsfields turn up really. Lamh V St Pauls certainly a toss of a coin although Lamh dhearg have got the bulk of their players back so should have enough to tip the scale their way. Armoy playing in the higher league should certainly take out Rasharkin

Yeah If Clooney have PJ playing they will have a better chance, big team and fight to the end, I like that about them. Srasfields have the McKeran's young McKenna and the bulk of the good under 21 team playing for them. I'll be at your game though so we'll see how we judge the game afterwards ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2013, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Compared to yesteryear, Thurles is a doddle. I don't know what the fuss is about. A great venue and a great town.  ;)

Miracle, we agree on something :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 01:57:55 PM
Just a few random thoughts on the U21 debacle:

1) Antrim have a valid point in complaining about the venue - but this is not the same as saying they are right.
2) bringing the game to Parnell (if even an ulster venue) would result in more "casual" antr
Supporters

But;

3) if a hurling game is not in croke park - Thurles is the next most prestigious venue
4) this venue has been used for several years - the teams involved may or may not affect this
5) we've already went there and won
6) the geography / travel time argument is open to many comparisons and contrast across all fixtures - it's impossible to have consistency across the board.
7) I can't help but think of the fuss caused about the venue and wonder of our county officials were so pro-active before the Wexford game.

What I can say for sure however is that any notion of a boycott is disgraceful.
Even if its a bargaining position - it's still disgraceful.
It's an all-Ireland final! U give it the honour and status it deserves regardless of who is playing and where it is played!
The notion of a boycott gives entirely the wrong impression - and even as a bargaining point will not work.

Anyway - like I say - just a few random thoughts.


Again I read the biggest load of bull from you! You should join the Antrim Post FFS, Ulster hurling is treated like 2nd Class citizens and the sooner someone in Armagh grows a pair the better. Those devalera fckrs always look to stick it to us at every opportunity, and all we do is continually run cap in hand, just like you do on this site week in week out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2013, 04:04:02 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
Again I read the biggest load of bull from you! You should join the Antrim Post FFS, Ulster hurling is treated like 2nd Class citizens and the sooner someone in Armagh grows a pair the better. Those devalera fckrs always look to stick it to us at every opportunity, and all we do is continually run cap in hand, just like you do on this site week in week out.

::)

What did Clare do last year when in a similar position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 28, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Am I missing something? The venue has been set for thurles for a few years now. The only exception was when Tipp got to the final and it was moved however after that it was stated it would be played in Thurles irrespective who was involved. So what is the issue? Do we want preferential treatment to the other 31 counties. We rant on about being treated fairly yet we are now crying as we are being hard done by , like poor wee Antrim . The venue wasn't decided after the semi , it's been set long before Antrim won. What amazes even more was Ryan's ridiculous outburst. I couldn't believe what I was reading. To come out and say that the boys had no chance was outrageous. What does that say to players? Maybe it was mind games but should have been handled differently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 01:57:55 PM
Just a few random thoughts on the U21 debacle:

1) Antrim have a valid point in complaining about the venue - but this is not the same as saying they are right.
2) bringing the game to Parnell (if even an ulster venue) would result in more "casual" antr
Supporters

But;

3) if a hurling game is not in croke park - Thurles is the next most prestigious venue
4) this venue has been used for several years - the teams involved may or may not affect this
5) we've already went there and won
6) the geography / travel time argument is open to many comparisons and contrast across all fixtures - it's impossible to have consistency across the board.
7) I can't help but think of the fuss caused about the venue and wonder of our county officials were so pro-active before the Wexford game.

What I can say for sure however is that any notion of a boycott is disgraceful.
Even if its a bargaining position - it's still disgraceful.
It's an all-Ireland final! U give it the honour and status it deserves regardless of who is playing and where it is played!
The notion of a boycott gives entirely the wrong impression - and even as a bargaining point will not work.

Anyway - like I say - just a few random thoughts.


Again I read the biggest load of bull from you! You should join the Antrim Post FFS, Ulster hurling is treated like 2nd Class citizens and the sooner someone in Armagh grows a pair the better. Those devalera fckrs always look to stick it to us at every opportunity, and all we do is continually run cap in hand, just like you do on this site week in week out.

Laughable!
It's all a free-state conspiracy to keep us nordies British!
Nobody likes us - they are all out to get us!
I pity you.

Tell me this - where do you think the game should be played?

Croke Park?
Get a suitable date, personally I would rather a Thurles atmosphere to an echo in empty Croker.

Parnell?
Thurles has more tradition and status in a year than in the history of this ground. Or tullamore, or mullingar.

Casement?
So Thurles is too far for us but they can come here because they can play charity with an all-Ireland final. Yeah that's logic.


I've never played in an all-Ireland final but I have played in Thurles. If I was on this squad I couldn't wait to get into those changing rooms and out on the carpet to the the home of hurling.
Sorry if its too far for you to travel.

But if it helps - blame de Valera, blame Collins, the blueshirts, and all the rest.
It's a free state conspiracy! Pathetic.

I really don't care - it's all about an all-Ireland final to me - quit the fuss on the venue.
After all - we're on a winning streak down amongst all those devil free staters in Thurles.

Wise up you goat.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2013, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2013, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
Compared to yesteryear, Thurles is a doddle. I don't know what the fuss is about. A great venue and a great town.  ;)

Miracle, we agree on something :o
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 28, 2013, 07:16:37 PM
Bate them in their own backyard (sort of)  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 28, 2013, 08:05:05 PM
I'd say with the Cushendalls form at present they would be favourites but like I say would like to see how shams deal with the town.  if it was the loughgiel of those past days yes they would be favourites, beginning to think they are a little stale.  want to see them again. 

as for thurles being a nice town.  on a summers day for a big game yes.  but a bit of a shithole in all honesty

plus the fact it is and hour and a half the wrong side of Dublin for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 28, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 28, 2013, 05:29:36 PM
Am I missing something? The venue has been set for thurles for a few years now. The only exception was when Tipp got to the final and it was moved however after that it was stated it would be played in Thurles irrespective who was involved. So what is the issue? Do we want preferential treatment to the other 31 counties. We rant on about being treated fairly yet we are now crying as we are being hard done by , like poor wee Antrim . The venue wasn't decided after the semi , it's been set long before Antrim won. What amazes even more was Ryan's ridiculous outburst. I couldn't believe what I was reading. To come out and say that the boys had no chance was outrageous. What does that say to players? Maybe it was mind games but should have been handled differently

Yeah the behaviour of the Antrim board is becoming a bit of an embarrassment.

I know if I was a player I would rather play in Thurles than somewhere like Parnell. Thurles is set as the venue for U-21 finals, unless Tipp are in the final. I wonder did they enquire about changing the final venue before the semi? They would be better looking forward to a once in a blue moon occasion instead of this bleating about ill treatment of Antrim hurling. They dished out a bit of ill treatment themselves last weekend, by scheduling football championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Playing the skin flute in Thurles would be the only thing you played btdtgtt Lol! As I have previously stated you obviously under achieved in your limited playing career in the gaa, it just got too competitive after U12 didn't it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 28, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Playing the skin flute in Thurles would be the only thing you played btdtgtt Lol! As I have previously stated you obviously under achieved in your limited playing career in the gaa, it just got too competitive after U12 didn't it?

Zzzzzz - boring.
When you lack the intelligence for a coherent argument just try some personal abuse.
Attempted abuse from an anonymous person to another anonymous person - the height of ur intellect.
Stick to gossip sections women's magazines maybe.
Seems about your level never mind U12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on August 28, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
i think ryan is just trying to build up a siege mentality.think he knows rightly game wont get moved.it worked for tyrone for 30 mins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 28, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
i think ryan is just trying to build up a siege mentality.think he knows rightly game wont get moved.it worked for tyrone for 30 mins

Quite likely - he's using it in some way because nobody in their right minds can take the boycott threat seriously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2013, 08:49:16 AM
Quote from: jftj on August 28, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
i think ryan is just trying to build up a siege mentality.think he knows rightly game wont get moved.it worked for tyrone for 30 mins

A siege mentality? Why would he need to try and manufacture something which isn't there? It isn't as if the players need extra motivation to play in Antrim's first u21 final in our history?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2013, 09:01:26 AM
Any oul angle that works just JJ ya never know what slant he'll be putting on it.
I'm sure even going into major the bigger counties always had another slant.
I seen on Twitter yesterday Frankie Quinn made reference to mind games surrounding the issue.
At this stage I just think it would be best put to bed and lets have all publicity about celebrating Antrim in an AIF!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2013, 11:38:28 AM
Mind games? With Davy Fitz? Good luck with that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2013, 11:46:32 AM
Are times confirmed for the games at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2013, 12:29:23 PM
On the Antrim website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 01:20:05 PM
I read Joe Edwards has hit back saying that the CCC had been in contact with each of the clubs who had players invovled with the u21 hurlers to move the football fixture to accomadate the hurlers. Rossa as it turns out put their own player into the difficult situation by not agreeing to move their fixture, 'expecting their player to play with them' Shame on Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2013, 01:37:22 PM
Lets get some perspective here
AI U21 hurling preparations and performances in Antrim have been pretty dire for as longs as its been a competition.

This may have been the reasoning of Rossas football mentors who (based on historical information, current poor attendances at U21 training and don't forget the bookie odds) thought the journey to Thurles was going to be a pointless endeavor not worth moving a club championship game which they had made plans for.

...then again ...he might just of been a bit of a ballecks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 02:01:38 PM
Bottom line, the club put their own player in the a very difficult position, and not the county board as we were lead to believe. If I was the player and found out how this had went I would soon be letting my club know exactly how I felt about the respect they had shown me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
OK just ignore what I've just said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
I haven't ignored what you said, I understand what u wrote, buy you have done what many Gaa folk do, is treat our players with little respect, just like the Rossa manager. Player should mostly be first in any consideration.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2013, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
I haven't ignored what you said, I understand what u wrote, buy you have done what many Gaa folk do, is treat our players with little respect, just like the Rossa manager. Player should mostly be first in any consideration.

Is this not an issue for the Rossa club then? And not all clubs in general?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2013, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 29, 2013, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
I haven't ignored what you said, I understand what u wrote, buy you have done what many Gaa folk do, is treat our players with little respect, just like the Rossa manager. Player should mostly be first in any consideration.

Is this not an issue for the Rossa club then? And not all clubs in general?

Generalizing are we? Either way, both maybe wrong County could have taken the stance and moved it to give the county team it's players and the clubs not lose out (as we didn't have Jackson for the Moneyglass game) and Rossa could have said no to McGuinness you're one of our better players and we don't want you playing against Rossa. Will the county move the fixtures fixed for the 14th? Or will they leave that for the clubs to decide?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 29, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
I haven't ignored what you said, I understand what u wrote, buy you have done what many Gaa folk do, is treat our players with little respect, just like the Rossa manager. Player should mostly be first in any consideration.

All I can do is read your words ....and you (by not commenting on anything I'd said) ignored my comments

In bold .... its all a bit black and white for my liking. There are shades of grey when it comes to looking for respect. If Antrim had lost on Saturday after poor preparation prior to the game like they've done every other year...we would be bemoaning the players effort and everyone who seen it as a waste of time like it was every other year would have had a point. Thats all been turned on its head since they've won. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 29, 2013, 11:38:28 AM
Mind games? With Davy Fitz? Good luck with that one.

I mean mind games within the Antrim set up or towards croke park - not at Davey Fitz.

More importantly - I read joe Edwards article and spoke to 2 different Rossa men who were at pains to point out;

- the offer to change their game was made the day before it!
- the move to midweek would have ruled out other players who had flown to play the originàl fixture
- a midweek game would have been a few days before they play hurling championship
- the player was put in this position by the county fixtures not by them
- the player chose to play for Rossa

Hardstation might enlighten us more here?

Both myself and a previous poster alluded to Antrim now engaging in PR attempt to cover up the mockery they have made of the original set up - lo and behold!

Otherwise - I am still incredulous that anyone expects a club to play a championship match without a player they essentially created - for a county team. Why should rossa / st galls / and anyone else not fight their corner for their biggest day of the year! how can they be criticised for that! This is in total contradiction to the ethos of the GAA. That's a fact - the official guide describes the club as the "core unit". Are we seriously suggesting two different strands here?! The whole notion is incomprehensible!

This situation was caused by Antrim making the fixtures at the same time - lets not lose sight of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2013, 04:40:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 29, 2013, 11:38:28 AM
Mind games? With Davy Fitz? Good luck with that one.

I mean mind games within the Antrim set up or towards croke park - not at Davey Fitz.

More importantly - I read joe Edwards article and spoke to 2 different Rossa men who were at pains to point out;

- the offer to change their game was made the day before it!
- the move to midweek would have ruled out other players who had flown to play the originàl fixture
- a midweek game would have been a few days before they play hurling championship
- the player was put in this position by the county fixtures not by them
- the player chose to play for Rossa

Hardstation might enlighten us more here?

Both myself and a previous poster alluded to Antrim now engaging in PR attempt to cover up the mockery they have made of the original set up - lo and behold!

Otherwise - I am still incredulous that anyone expects a club to play a championship match without a player they essentially created - for a county team. Why should rossa / st galls / and anyone else not fight their corner for their biggest day of the year! how can they be criticised for that! This is in total contradiction to the ethos of the GAA. That's a fact - the official guide describes the club as the "core unit". Are we seriously suggesting two different strands here?! The whole notion is incomprehensible!

This situation was caused by Antrim making the fixtures at the same time - lets not lose sight of that.

Also looking ahead to the championship semi finals, are they now being moved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
The pie fight has started
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
The county are in charge here, why didn't Joe just move it to the next day and take it out of Rossa's hands?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 29, 2013, 07:46:35 PM
I see a current board member congratulated the Antrim board, for their piece in the Irish News today, and slated those that criticised them for playing games last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 29, 2013, 08:59:50 PM
If I were Ross's I would be very quick to contact the Irish news and set the story straight. No surprise that some elements, important elements , of the story were left out by Joe to make the county look faultless .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
It's loughgiel's fault.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2013, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 29, 2013, 08:59:50 PM
If I were Ross's I would be very quick to contact the Irish news and set the story straight. No surprise that some elements, important elements , of the story were left out by Joe to make the county look faultless .


Precisely - it's the PR spin that was predicted to prevent them being exposed as incompetent in the press - again.
That's administration in Antrim - always in the media and never for good reasons.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 30, 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
It's loughgiel's fault.   ;)

are you not getting tired of the world against loughgiel SIE routine or everyone has our laim public enemy number 1

looking for a little comfort in my bet

percentage wise how would you rate the Shams chances of winning the championship this year

AS for JOE EDWARDS.  GOOD GOD ONLY IN ANTRIM would that clown get such a position

the st pauls brigade would only just trust him with keeping scores back in the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 30, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2013, 01:26:30 AM
More on Joe Edwards' mad world....

A fella takes an Antrim underage development squad who are invited down to a tournament in Waterford. He makes all the plans but then realises his club are playing championship that day and he is due to play in the game. He approaches Joe and asks if the game can be put back a day to the Sunday.

The reply is short and sweet, "No and you shouldn't be in charge of development squads".

What an asshole.

What a tosser.  Why is it that a substantial proportion of administrators within the GAA have so much arrogance and a false sense of superiority over other gaels?  Its as if they are doing us a favour and allowing us to play, coach and spectate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 30, 2013, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2013, 05:49:07 PM
And there's more.....

It transpired shortly before that that Moneyglass are attempting to claim the points for the senior football game we got called off due to an Ulster U21 championship game being on at the same time. Despite granting it, the county then started hmming and haaing.
That's complete bullshit.

Although Moneyglass were never told about the game being postponed until they arrived at the ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 30, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2013, 01:26:30 AM
More on Joe Edwards' mad world....

A fella takes an Antrim underage development squad who are invited down to a tournament in Waterford. He makes all the plans but then realises his club are playing championship that day and he is due to play in the game. He approaches Joe and asks if the game can be put back a day to the Sunday.

The reply is short and sweet, "No and you shouldn't be in charge of development squads".

What an asshole.

What a t**ser.  Why is it that a substantial proportion of administrators within the GAA have so much arrogance and a false sense of superiority over other gaels?  Its as if they are doing us a favour and allowing us to play, coach and spectate.

+1
A phenomenen exhibited in Antrim more than any other county I suggest.
Perhaps explained when we look at the history of many of our administrators - where they came from to get the jobs!
Many of them have no grounding, no history - they are fabricated into positions through years of manipulating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2013, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 09:30:09 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 30, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2013, 01:26:30 AM
More on Joe Edwards' mad world....

A fella takes an Antrim underage development squad who are invited down to a tournament in Waterford. He makes all the plans but then realises his club are playing championship that day and he is due to play in the game. He approaches Joe and asks if the game can be put back a day to the Sunday.

The reply is short and sweet, "No and you shouldn't be in charge of development squads".

What an asshole.

What a t**ser.  Why is it that a substantial proportion of administrators within the GAA have so much arrogance and a false sense of superiority over other gaels?  Its as if they are doing us a favour and allowing us to play, coach and spectate.

+1
A phenomenen exhibited in Antrim more than any other county I suggest.
Perhaps explained when we look at the history of many of our administrators - where they came from to get the jobs!
Many of them have no grounding, no history - they are fabricated into positions through years of manipulating.

I don't see a lot of people putting their heads on the block in fairness, shit job and wouldn't do it if ya paid me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on August 30, 2013, 10:14:29 AM
I think there's a real chance he could be the next chairman. Getting visions of the episode of Fr Ted when Dougal was in charge of a funeral, the hearse is halfway in the grave and on fire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 30, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
Is Joe Edwards not a Rossa man or was??



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SambaSaffron on August 30, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2013, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on August 30, 2013, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 29, 2013, 05:49:07 PM
And there's more.....

It transpired shortly before that that Moneyglass are attempting to claim the points for the senior football game we got called off due to an Ulster U21 championship game being on at the same time. Despite granting it, the county then started hmming and haaing.
That's complete bullshit.
Although Moneyglass were never told about the game being postponed until they arrived at the ground.
Really? As of last night, our boys were still uncertain of it being played again and some even reckoned we'd lost the points.
First I heard of it. Can see this season dragging on a bit, is there a cut-off date? I'd be pretty sure it'll be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Lads can we move away from the actual personal comments, I for one dont mind anyone calling him out for his lack of ability as a county administrator and for anything along those lines. But at the end of the day he is a volunteer doing a job I dare say none of us on here would relish doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2013, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2013, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Lads can we move away from the actual personal comments, I for one dont mind anyone calling him out for his lack of ability as a county administrator and for anything along those lines. But at the end of the day he is a volunteer doing a job I dare say none of us on here would relish doing.
He doesn't have to talk to people the way he does, volunteer or not. The comments were nothing to do with his role in the county but how he treats people like they are shit off his shoe.

HS I am in agreement with you completely, but all I am saying is that if we allow it to become a personal thing then we lose the power of the argument, that this is not the way we want our county to be run and not how we want things done.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 30, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
joe does what he wants - simple as that.

the count dont give a shit about the clubs, they care more about getting over excited about the ulster football championship and potential money that they can make in a year!

people have lost faith in them a long time ago. no talking now from them will convince me and alot of other people i would say that they can improve. they are too stuck in their crap ways
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 30, 2013, 12:45:30 PM
on another note, hurling championship tonight! :)

think lgiel will win with alot to spare with this game, potentially 20+ points. best of luck to cloughmills though, they have done well to be competing in their first ever senior hulring championship match and i hope they enjoy it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 30, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2013, 12:45:30 PM
on another note, hurling championship tonight! :)

think lgiel will win with alot to spare with this game, potentially 20+ points. best of luck to cloughmills though, they have done well to be competing in their first ever senior hulring championship match and i hope they enjoy it.

Indeed, fair play to them for the work they have done this past 20 years.  Whilst they may not win tonight its a great achievment for the club.  Hopefully they can carry their recent progression forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 30, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
Is Joe Edwards not a Rossa man or was??

St. Paul's man.

Heard a connection with a Belfast club which is no longer in existence but I can't confirm that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
My abiding memory of Joe Edwards is during a game against St Pauls him "offering on" a young disabled fella that has been our mascot/water boy for years, over a disputed line ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 30, 2013, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 30, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
Is Joe Edwards not a Rossa man or was??

St. Paul's man.

Heard a connection with a Belfast club which is no longer in existence but I can't confirm that.

The best laugh I had at Joe was the day of the infamous Cork v Antrim senior game in Croke park where Dinny belittled a few of the Cork players in the build up. That day Joe was setting out the balls for the Antrim warm up before they came out and had set them up in the same side as the Cork lads were already set up, it would have possibly worked out if Antrim had come out first, but they didn't, the Cork lads came out and pucked all the Antrim balls into the Canal end.

that little bit of gamesmanship sadly came to nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2013, 01:58:41 PM
Any truth in the news I heard that the Lamhs pitch is lined that tight that (if there were enough goal posts) both games could be played side by side on Sunday. Sure we could all get home for the minor match on TV?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 30, 2013, 01:58:41 PM
Any truth in the news I heard that the Lamhs pitch is lined that tight that (if there were enough goal posts) both games could be played side by side on Sunday. Sure we could all get home for the minor match on TV?

Where's that come from?
Mickey Johnston antics?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 30, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 30, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
Is Joe Edwards not a Rossa man or was??

St Pauls. Not sure if anywhere before there.

Agree with MR2 and the head on the block comment - pretty thankless task. Some actions appear not particularly helpful and obtrusive but pretty hard job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
2 years ago we(johnnies)got a player sent off up at toome.the referree sent the wrong player off and the lad got 3 mnths for it.we appealed it and went up to the meeting with joe edwards.geordie mcguckin from cargin came to the meeting as he witnessed what had happened.geordie explained the ref had got the wrong man,the offender had black hair and the lad who got the line was blonde.joe edwards just decided to ignore us and geordie and unbelievably upheld the suspension.to me that was just like calling a good honest gael like geordie  a liar.if this man gets the chair its up there with dawson keeping his job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on August 30, 2013, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 30, 2013, 01:58:41 PM
Any truth in the news I heard that the Lamhs pitch is lined that tight that (if there were enough goal posts) both games could be played side by side on Sunday. Sure we could all get home for the minor match on TV?

Where's that come from?
Mickey Johnston antics?

Bollix....Lamh Dhearg's pitch is lined out to the same width as it always is.  You think Lamh Dhearg would entertain a request from St John's to narrow their pitch, thereby losing all credibility with the rest of the clubs and ruining their chances of hosting additional championship matches?  Or maybe wee Joe told them to do it as part of his cunning plan for world domination...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 30, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
Sure with forwards like Conor Johnson, Brian Mc Fall, Michael Dudley and Domhall Nugent, St Johns would want as wide a pitch as possible :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on August 30, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
BTW...if you don't want to see Mr. Edwards as the next chairman, you'd need to be getting the stalking horse sorted out.  Preferably one that's an affiliated and paid up member of the association, unlike the last effort.  By no means impossible but needs all of you to lobby your club committees to ensure they act in line with your wishes.  Must be someone who fancies it...hardstation, MR2, anybody!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
2 years ago we(johnnies)got a player sent off up at toome.the referree sent the wrong player off and the lad got 3 mnths for it.we appealed it and went up to the meeting with joe edwards.geordie mcguckin from cargin came to the meeting as he witnessed what had happened.geordie explained the ref had got the wrong man,the offender had black hair and the lad who got the line was blonde.joe edwards just decided to ignore us and geordie and unbelievably upheld the suspension.to me that was just like calling a good honest gael like geordie  a liar.if this man gets the chair its up there with dawson keeping his job.

And did St. John's put forward the real culprit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on August 30, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
BTW...if you don't want to see Mr. Edwards as the next chairman, you'd need to be getting the stalking horse sorted out.  Preferably one that's an affiliated and paid up member of the association, unlike the last effort.  By no means impossible but needs all of you to lobby your club committees to ensure they act in line with your wishes.  Must be someone who fancies it...hardstation, MR2, anybody!

Hopefully a candidate as contentious as joe Edwards (who would need nominated & seconded) will bring someone else out of the woodwork.
Leaving aside his internal deficiencies - can we imagine him representing Antrim in the media or at croke park!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on August 30, 2013, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on August 30, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
2 years ago we(johnnies)got a player sent off up at toome.the referree sent the wrong player off and the lad got 3 mnths for it.we appealed it and went up to the meeting with joe edwards.geordie mcguckin from cargin came to the meeting as he witnessed what had happened.geordie explained the ref had got the wrong man,the offender had black hair and the lad who got the line was blonde.joe edwards just decided to ignore us and geordie and unbelievably upheld the suspension.to me that was just like calling a good honest gael like geordie  a liar.if this man gets the chair its up there with dawson keeping his job.

And did St. John's put forward the real culprit?
yeah both guys went to meeting and the player held his hands up and admitted it was him.geordie identified the real culprit and joe edwards chose to ignore it.it really was an unbelievable decision.to me it seemed as if edwards was making a sstatement that - he can do anything he wants-
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
Shamrock won 21-6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 30, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
My abiding memory of Joe Edwards is during a game against St Pauls him "offering on" a young disabled fella that has been our mascot/water boy for years, over a disputed line ball.
He wouldn't offer on his brother!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 30, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
No disgrace in that result for Cloughmills, thought they tried hard throughout. Loughgiel looked a bit lethargic, Mr. Watson looked sharp when he came on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2013, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on August 30, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
BTW...if you don't want to see Mr. Edwards as the next chairman, you'd need to be getting the stalking horse sorted out.  Preferably one that's an affiliated and paid up member of the association, unlike the last effort.  By no means impossible but needs all of you to lobby your club committees to ensure they act in line with your wishes.  Must be someone who fancies it...hardstation, MR2, anybody!

Don't be bringing me into it cuz, I do enough for the beloved Antrim ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 30, 2013, 11:32:51 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 30, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
No disgrace in that result for Cloughmills, thought they tried hard throughout. Loughgiel looked a bit lethargic, Mr. Watson looked sharp when he came on.

+1 on all counts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 30, 2013, 11:43:58 PM
The Shamrocks would need to improve a great deal if they intend to win another championship, they looked lethargic and going through the motions. This won't work against Ballycastle,Dunloy or Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 30, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Playing the way they did tonight,will not beat any of the other three teams by 15 points,you can be sure of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
The introduction of Watson, McAuley, D McKinley and Scully made all the difference towards the end of the game. And as JJ said, Winker looked sharp. He took some great scores and laid off some nice flicks and passes. Eddie and Jimmy Campbell had off days. The forwards tried to score goals too often at the start.  They could have had 5 points on the board before the Biddies registered. And let's not take away from Cloughmills' performance. Apart fom the last ten minutes or so they didn't look out of their depth at all.

But also, as the wacker says, improvement is needed all around if we're to obtain the 4 in a row. Maybe a couple more evenings of scoring practice, accompanied by some basic ground to stick work wouldn't go amiss. I'm not a fan of this Hokin and pokin with the one hand. Pull on it ffs.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 10:32:12 AM
Cushendall will beat St Johns by at least 8.

Dunloy will beat Rossa by at least 10.

Ballycastle will beat Glenariff by at least 6.

You can make all the excuses you want for Loughgiel and if they are beat, it will be "sure it's been a long 3 years etc etc" but mark my words - they will not win this years Championship!

The signs have been there in 4/5 of their recent 6/7 performances.

Loughgiel 2/5 shots ...

Get on Cdall/Dunloy/Ballycastle now before my predictions happen.

Cushendall @ 7/2 is my NAP!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
Ballycastle bog certs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
SIE play it down and joke all you want, Ballycastle have been given all the confidence they needed following their last two games v Lgiel and will not go down without a fight.

Lgiel may well get to another final but will not win the championship.

Ps - you only came out of exile when Loughgiel started winning again, tells me all I need to know about you. I hear you are not even an active club member. Sooner you go back to exile the better (and it will be sooner!). Scundered listening to you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on August 31, 2013, 11:06:05 AM
 ::) says the man with 11 posts to his name. Where have you been all this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2013, 11:09:24 AM
Lgiel did all that they needed to. Was a boring match for a neutral, I though lgiel weren't that impressive. Maybe there was that factor of trying to avoid a shock in their head and just wanted to win to hard.

A big improvement needed if they want to beat ballycastle/glenariffe in the semi final. Watson looked good as per usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on August 31, 2013, 11:06:05 AM
::) says the man with 11 posts to his name. Where have you been all this time?
Those with most to say arnt always worth listening to ;) lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 11:18:08 AM
Precisily DR. The wise old owl and all that!

I am only saying what 90% of users on this board are thinking but don't want to say.

When something needs said, I will say it.

SIE will no doubt go in to hibernation for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
SIE play it down and joke all you want, Ballycastle have been given all the confidence they needed following their last two games v Lgiel and will not go down without a fight.

Lgiel may well get to another final but will not win the championship.

Ps - you only came out of exile when Loughgiel started winning again, tells me all I need to know about you. I hear you are not even an active club member. Sooner you go back to exile the better (and it will be sooner!). Scundered listening to you.
::)

Hard to be an active club member when I've been living away from the area for over 13 years. Hence the username. Perhaps the person who told you this doesn't know as much as you think. I've attended as many games as the next man during the years. I've followed all the Antrim clubs in the all-Ireland. All of them. Went to every game apart from Cushndalls match against mount sion a few years back. I've followed Antrim from pillar post since I was allowed to travel on the county supporters buses back in the eighties. What's more, there are several posters on here, from my club and others, who can verify this.

I only found this site back in 2010. Like many others, I read it for a while before posting. Got to know the characters, so to speak. And like many of them I get carried away sometimes. But hi, tell this "source" to come up to me personally at the next Loughgiel match with any concerns they have about me and my loughgiel credentials.  ;)

For what it's worth, it wouldn't be the biggest shock if the town won. It'll be close, that's or sure. Ad if you're really interested in what I've posted before you'd have noticed I've tipped them to win the championship in the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 31, 2013, 11:51:48 AM
Hirty Darry.....see you didn't mention you're club when you signed up 12 posts ago. Us longer serving members have heard all the usual platitudes that you are coming out with,and the think they are ground breaking observations.Another member for the anti-Shamrock brigade,or as I call them the wishful thinking brigade or the " Aye buts".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Everyone is sick of hearing about "aye but" and "it's Loughgiel's fault" from you and your mate.

Give it a rest.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 12:20:11 PM
I've also made it clear on several occasions that I've nothing to do with the set up of the club. Just a supporter. Nothing new there hirty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
I didn't say you don't attend games SIE, just said I heard you weren't an active member (if you even are a member). You seem to be the spokesperson on this website for everything "Loughgiel", you seem to be the "go to guy" if someone wants something posted.

Just a messenger who likes to be the one who thinks they know it all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
I didn't say you don't attend games SIE, just said I heard you weren't an active member (if you even are a member). You seem to be the spokesperson on this website for everything "Loughgiel", you seem to be the "go to guy" if someone wants something posted.

Just a messenger who likes to be the one who thinks they know it all.
I post what I post. That isn't your concern.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on August 31, 2013, 01:09:27 PM
Stay off the line Darry,you're just one of these would be "expert pundits" who crop up every year around championship time.Then when you're pathetic,ill-informed observations are proved wrong,you vanish into whatever hole ( or drunken stupor ) you came out off.
Give it a rest, this panel has plenty of shit stirrers,all of them better informed than you. GET A LIFE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
Meanwhile, back to the subject of this thread.

I hear that the county board are insisting that the semis be played on the 15th as scheduled. The day after the u21 final. Any truth in this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on August 31, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
Ballycastle bog certs.

......................

untill they roll over like every other year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on August 31, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
Ballycastle bog certs.

......................

untill they roll over like every other year  ;)
you'd have to ask nag1 about that.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
@ClubAontroma: Antrim beat Wexford - sound familiar?U14 @TonyForristal tournament. 2.8 to 1.8, and boys thru to semi final. Thanks @oliverlennon updates

Took from twitter. Play either Clare or limerick in the semi final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2013, 04:46:04 PM
@ClubAontroma: 13 scores to Antrim to 8 for Clare - but too many goals for them. We lead 3.10 to. 5.3

Nearly over!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 31, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
Goal to Clare! 2 down with 4 left!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Lamh dearg in from against St. Paul's in IHC.
Tight enough game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2013, 07:34:33 PM
Another goal in 2nd half wins it for Lamh dearg.
Apologies to the north Antrim men who I'm quite sure couldn't care less!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 31, 2013, 09:07:38 PM
That's very encouraging news about the u14s in the Tony Forristal today. Must be the first time we have got to a semi final of that. Must have some good players and for me that's more important news than the u21s winning last week. As this week has worn on a few people I have talked to have said that last Sat was probably just a freak result but there was something in the back of my mind about the minor q/f of 3 years ago. I checked back to that match of 3 years ago and Dublin only beat Antrim by 8 points. That game was in Crossmaglen and im sure somebody on here will confirm but didn't Antrim compete well in that game until a man was sent off? Maybe this crop are actually better than we have had for a long time which was proven last week. Doesn't mean they will beat Clare though as they are exceptional!

As for tomorrow I think Dunloy and Ballycastle will go through after a fight but I think the biggest fight could be by the Johnnies against C'dall. But maybe a year or two too soon for the Johnnies so C'dall to edge it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on September 01, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
You are right, the sending off was a ridiculous decision which in all likelihood cost us that game v Dublin.

It's a pity the U14s didn't get to the final today hit setting that aside, a great performance. Mind you if our development squads continue to do well what will the Irish News say? This doesn't fit with their narrative at all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 01, 2013, 01:09:54 AM
On the back of two very strong Cross and Passion and St Marys teams who had won All-Irelands/made the final the Antrim minor team should have turned Dublin.Still convinced Croke Park moved it to Crossmaglen and sent a dodgy referee as it would have looked bad after all the money pumped into Dublns set-up.Antrim had them on the ropes and then Matthew Donnelly was sent off for a very soft foul.

As for senior championship:

Cushendall vs St Johns will be game of the weekend. It doesn't take a great stretch of the imagination to see an upset here
Dunloy and Ballycastle to follow Loughiels example and cruise through.

It will be two superb semi-finals and the most open in years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 09:02:15 AM
Carey were the better hurling team by far. Fit and hassled for every ball, give away a few frees so would need to work on that. Your line were giving too many conflicting instructions to the team, would need to have less of that. Id say contenders for it. Have you strength in your squad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Long run the Faughs on September 01, 2013, 09:59:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 09:02:15 AM
Carey were the better hurling team by far. Fit and hassled for every ball, give away a few frees so would need to work on that. Your line were giving too many conflicting instructions to the team, would need to have less of that. Id say contenders for it. Have you strength in your squad?

There are 4 or 5 on the bench who Sean could probably use. Think Tam the trainer got a bit carried away with himself yesterday when our 2 boys got injured and moved a few players into defence which Sean the manager and cubby didn't know about. This resulted in  our only bad spell in the game as we couldnt keep the ball in the forwards. Sean fixed it immediately when he noticed it and the game swung our way again. David Jeffrey (Sean) knows best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 10:47:06 AM
Only stayed for the first half of the Sarsfields Clooney Gaels game, Sarsfields I noticed were well under strength, no Gazza in the middle and missing young mckeran up front plus no decent subs to put on. Was pretty low scoring in the first half and looking at the result Gaels must have stuck over a right few points in the second half with the breeze. Pj makes them into a decent team

So it's shaping up well, with Lamhs the only Belfast team in it, whats the draw? who gets who in the semis? Could Rasharkin cause a shock against Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Long run the Faughs on September 01, 2013, 11:06:34 AM
Clooney play Lamh Dhearg. Carey play the winners of Armoy and Rasharkin. Haven't seen Rasharkin but I would imagine Armoy should win handy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 01, 2013, 05:57:44 PM
That's about the jist of it HS

Two poor games I thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 01, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
No outstanding performance yet. Saving the best to last perhaps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 01, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Any updates from castle match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 01, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 01, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Any updates from castle match?

Town just got two quick goals, 2-9 to 0-3, Ballycastle man sent off in first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 01, 2013, 05:57:44 PM
That's about the jist of it HS

Two poor games I thought

Dunloy did enough and fair play Rossa for coming out in the second half and putting up a decent fight, as you have said HS they couldn't score for shit against the wind and had a few chances, fought hard in defence but their clearances out of defence put them under more pressure. I think they should have played against the wind in the first half after winning the toss

Johnnies fought hard in the first half but the Dall took their scores far more easier, thought the lad that lines Shane did a fair job, I thought Shane would have had him for pace but there was a lot of high ball going in so its a fifty fifty thing and the Johnnies lad came out with the ball most times.

Yeah Skull poor enough and by the sounds of it Ballycastle seem to be playing well up in Cushendall so they might be coming in with form (only to implode ;), only joking castle posters) Looking forward to the semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 01, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 01, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Any updates from castle match?

Town just got two quick goals, 2-9 to 0-3, Ballycastle man sent off in first half.

That's a big score 3-16 to 0-4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 01, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
hopefully harrys restaurant can save a terrible evening  Just watch the town hammer glenariff in the second half there after a strange first half.  the Cushendall st johns game was never really in doubt, same with dunloy and rossa.  loughgiel against cloughmills the same.

as usual we have to wait to the semi to see decent game

nothing to change my mind

loughgiel v dall final with dall favourites at moment.  ballycastle held by a poor team in first half wonder how loughgiel will deal with them 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 01, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 01, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
hopefully harrys restaurant can save a terrible evening  Just watch the town hammer glenariff in the second half there after a strange first half.  the Cushendall st johns game was never really in doubt, same with dunloy and rossa.  loughgiel against cloughmills the same.

as usual we have to wait to the semi to see decent game

nothing to change my mind

loughgiel v dall final with dall favourites at moment.  ballycastle held by a poor team in first half wonder how loughgiel will deal with them


Please stop this rubbish about Cushendall being favourites, Loughgiel as three in a row champions and All Ireland winners in 2012 are favorites. Just ask the bookies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 01, 2013, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 01, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 01, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Any updates from castle match?

Town just got two quick goals, 2-9 to 0-3, Ballycastle man sent off in first half.

Interesting, who got the line? Will they miss the next game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2013, 08:20:26 AM
Our match was a weird one. Never got going and the wind ruined it. I know some think we won by 9 and it maybe flattered us buy were more than good for it. Keeper saved two good shots in the first half and then we hit the cross bar as well.
Didn't understand Rossa dropping a man back with us leading. Maybe they wanted to shut up shop. Anyway it was job done.

Went to the ballycastle game as well. Poor poor match. Most excitement was the scuffle and red card for a headbutt. Had to go even of both them were wearing helmets. 3 goals in 5 mins killed it off. Wasn't a good game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2013, 08:43:04 AM
who got the line DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 02, 2013, 08:45:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2013, 08:20:26 AM
Our match was a weird one. Never got going and the wind ruined it. I know some think we won by 9 and it maybe flattered us buy were more than good for it. Keeper saved two good shots in the first half and then we hit the cross bar as well.
Didn't understand Rossa dropping a man back with us leading. Maybe they wanted to shut up shop. Anyway it was job done.

Went to the ballycastle game as well. Poor poor match. Most excitement was the scuffle and red card for a headbutt. Had to go even of both them were wearing helmets. 3 goals in 5 mins killed it off. Wasn't a good game.

Never could understand that, punching and headbutting faceguards will take the skin off the hardest knuckles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
Its called hollywood tough JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
Not sure who the lad was skull. He was no.2. It was a silly red card, rush of blood just. He will prob miss the lgiel game.

Interesting now to see where both games will be an when. Lgiel for our game maybe? And dunloy for the lgiel game? (Yeah I'm being selfish here! )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 02, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
Glenariff are a very poor side and for 30 minutes our boys matched them. The sending off was just before half time and was maybe a good thing. It was 7- 3 at half time but the Town scored 3-5 in the first 15 minutes of the second half. Bein down to 14 woke them up and they played really well for those 15 minutes.  Moving McAfee out of midfield to the forwards looks a good move and all the forwards gave Oisins defence a hard time. But if that had been Loughgeil or Cushendall or Dunloy they would bury us by half time.  No complaint about the sending off. It was David Donnelly. Has'nt played much this year. He did get a slap but the ref had give him the free but he lost the head a bit. Mind you I think there was'nt a lot of contact but still the ref had no choice. Thought the ref had a good game and saw the first match too Armoy and Rasharkin. Armoy went to sleep the last 10 minutes but the game was just about won then. Carson reffed that well too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 02, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
Why wouldn't the cdall Dunloy game b in bcastle, better parking and everything for it, but I suppose Dunloy won't want it there cause they have never won a semi final at our grounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 12:21:00 PM
We'd be happier in Ballycastle as well  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2013, 12:35:09 PM
jesus we have only played 2 at it. lost one and drew one. we lost more championship games at lgiels ground!

i like lgiels pitch, good atmoshphere at it as well. handy for us for a change! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on September 02, 2013, 01:48:31 PM
cdalls defence was rock solid yday with aaron graffin at full back particularly impressive.i think this could be their year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Graffin is impressive every time he walks onto a hurling field. Its the other lads arround him we need to impress if we are going to win anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 02, 2013, 05:30:39 PM
I was at both games in Lamh Dhearg both unfolded as expected unfortunately but the Belfast teams should get stronger over the next few years (I hope)

Dunloy are nearly suited to playing against the wind as they rarely look for long ball in to their full forward line, they prefer to move it along the lines. They are still strong and I would expect a big performance from them in the semi. Should be played at Loughgiel.

Cushendall have steady performers in Graffin and McManus. Shane can blow hot and cold but took his goal very well.

Antrim u14s done very well at the weekend which was great to see. We really need to work on these youngsters. Get them playing lots of games all over the country like the minor teams that Woody and Sambo took. Just hope they get funded for trips like those.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 02, 2013, 05:38:20 PM
hoping for ballycastle to host cushendall against Dunloy as with a bigger crowd it offers better viewing for all spectators and I assume we will be for armoy to watch the town against loughgiel 

could armoy take both games as a double header I wonder ???????????/

it would be better than lamh dearg still the same run down look with the ball catching nets and pitch is certainly outside the top 10 in the county

Cushendall v good parking areas last nite with the area just across the road
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2013, 06:09:52 PM
I'd think loughgiel for c dall v Dunloy
Prob Armoy or Dall for are game with the town. Am going for repeat of last years final.    I'd also be happy enough with the same outcome  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 02, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
Anybody else hearing talk of the Derry teams moving into the Antrim leagues for next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 06:43:39 PM
Sure ask the moderator on the Antrim site, he'll give you an honest answer :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
What about  Glenravel for the dall/dunloy game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
God no I don't want eaten alive! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 02, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
God no I don't want eaten alive! Lol
:)

It looks like the windy hill for yis then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
I don't like Glenravel at all, pitch is far too short. They could always catch a grip of themselves and open Casement for a double header or would that be too simple?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
Why take 4 north Antrim teams all the way up there for a semi,  would use not be happy with loughgiel or Ballycastle JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 02, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: gelvis on September 02, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
Anybody else hearing talk of the Derry teams moving into the Antrim leagues for next year?

They were invited into the Antrim leagues last year. Only one team took up the offer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on September 02, 2013, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
I don't like Glenravel at all, pitch is far too short. They could always catch a grip of themselves and open Casement for a double header or would that be too simple?

You serious? Glenravels pitch is one of the biggest in the county. Needs to be so you can run away from the feckin' midgies! It's not an option though, maintainence work starting on the pitches next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: scamroc on September 02, 2013, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2013, 08:47:11 PM
I don't like Glenravel at all, pitch is far too short. They could always catch a grip of themselves and open Casement for a double header or would that be too simple?

You serious? Glenravels pitch is one of the biggest in the county. Needs to be so you can run away from the feckin' midgies! It's not an option though, maintainence work starting on the pitches next week.

In case you werent joking.....take a wee run over omerbane and have a look yourself. Glenravels pitch is as short if not shorter than lamh deargs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2013, 12:06:34 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
Why take 4 north Antrim teams all the way up there for a semi,  would use not be happy with loughgiel or Ballycastle JJ?


It's only an hour!
Consider it "promoting hurling in weaker areas"!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
Take 4 North Antrim teams to Casement because its the best surface and has the best view for fans. The atmosphere would be brilliant, plenty of city folk would go as well. You could even call into the social club for a pint :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
The atmosphere would be brilliant

Really?

Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
plenty of city folk would go as well.

Really?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 03, 2013, 08:26:38 AM
Double header in Loughgiel - you heard it here first  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 03, 2013, 08:47:12 AM
that would work, but only if lgiel decided to pull out and cloughmills were allowed back in! lol

do the decent thing lgiel! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 03, 2013, 08:26:38 AM
Double header in Loughgiel - you heard it here first  ;)
or our match in dunloy if the double header doesn't work out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
I think it should be in Casement!
1) Best pitch
2) Best access
3) Atmosphere would indeed be good with big crowd from different clubs
4) Its closer to my house
5) What can I say about the social club JJ!

Shaping up to be a couple of great semi-finals tho!

I fancy the Shamrocks to overcome the Town but only narrowly after a really tight game.
The other one is just too close to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 09:25:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
The atmosphere would be brilliant

Really?

Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
plenty of city folk would go as well.

Really?

I'll go and bring

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ITZgbC9HQOE/hqdefault.jpg)
For the atmosphere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 11:22:08 AM
The "Belfast Gaels" would be out in their droves if you could get
(http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/news-in-pics/2011/09/29/paul-scholes.jpg)

Wasnt too many there on Sunday past. Not a good sign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 11:22:08 AM
The "Belfast Gaels" would be out in their droves if you could get
(http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/news-in-pics/2011/09/29/paul-scholes.jpg)

Wasnt too many there on Sunday past. Not a good sign

Couldn't get them out of the bar for watching the Dubs v Kerry ffs ;)

Would the attendance double if it were up north? I've no problems where it is, I've still to travel a bit either way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
Would say the Dublin Kerry game had an impact on neutrals attending .... would be nice to see better support coming out for the city teams especially on their door step.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
Would say the Dublin Kerry game had an impact on neutrals attending .... would be nice to see better support coming out for the city teams especially on their door step.

Agreed though the door step was up a mountain ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 03, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Think any talk of Casement can well and truly be binned. Just went passed there and barely any seats left in stand. The fire sale must be going well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 03, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
I think it should be in Casement!
1) Best pitch
2) Best access
3) Atmosphere would indeed be good with big crowd from different clubs
4) Its closer to my house
5) What can I say about the social club JJ!

Shaping up to be a couple of great semi-finals tho!

I fancy the Shamrocks to overcome the Town but only narrowly after a really tight game.
The other one is just too close to call.

:-X Shussh, our County Board paid £43K for no one to speak about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 03, 2013, 02:30:07 PM
Can see both being in north Antrim. Out game will prob be in lgiel, same as last year. Lgiels game may be in either dunloy or maybe armoy.

Lgiel haven't had a big game this year in the championship so I'm assuming they will get our game

But it's all guessing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 03, 2013, 02:30:07 PM
Can see both being in north Antrim. Out game will prob be in lgiel, same as last year. Lgiels game may be in either dunloy or maybe armoy.

Lgiel haven't had a big game this year in the championship so I'm assuming they will get our game

But it's all guessing.

:D :D. Would you think yous would need to improve a bit on the game against Rossa to beat Cushendall? Thinking about the match ups, bar Shorty and a couple of your HB's what area's would you think you'd dominate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 03, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.
I thought Ballycastle v Lgiel might be in C'Dall..better pitch to play on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
If Ballycastle agree to that they are mad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
+1.   Why would they play us at home in a semi final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 03, 2013, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 03, 2013, 02:30:07 PM
Can see both being in north Antrim. Out game will prob be in lgiel, same as last year. Lgiels game may be in either dunloy or maybe armoy.

Lgiel haven't had a big game this year in the championship so I'm assuming they will get our game

But it's all guessing.

:D :D. Would you think yous would need to improve a bit on the game against Rossa to beat Cushendall? Thinking about the match ups, bar Shorty and a couple of your HB's what area's would you think you'd dominate?
Prob need to improve our scoring from the full forward line. If I'm honest I didn't think we looked like losing that game on Sunday. Our defence is pretty strong this season, and well settled at that. Magee in nets, full back line has been the same all year, same with the half back line.

Cdall are a great team, big fan of graffins ESP. Natty has been consistent all season and hurled a blinder against us in the league. They have good hurlers in every position.

I think we are well matched in terms of ability and experience. Cdall will be favs with the bookies, very slightly, but it's literally a 50/50 game that will be decided by who wants it more and a bit of luck!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Cushendall were very disappointing against you boys last year in the c'ship. They'd need to step it up a good bit from that performance as you boys hammered them even after they got a soft early goal.

It'll likely be in the back of their minds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.

Listening to the wrong person again SIE - Ballycastle V Loughgiel game will not be in Dunloy as you so definitely state.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
+1.   Why would they play us at home in a semi final?

Look at it another way ... Loughgiel have won every game this year bar two.

Where did these two games (they didn't win) take place and against whom?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.

Listening to the wrong person again SIE - Ballycastle V Loughgiel game will not be in Dunloy as you so definitely state.
nope, the posts were moved. Possibility of a double header in Armoy on 21/22 September. Ballycastle wouldn't toss for it. Oh well.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.

Listening to the wrong person again SIE - Ballycastle V Loughgiel game will not be in Dunloy as you so definitely state.
nope, the posts were moved. Possibility of a double header in Armoy on 21/22 September. Ballycastle wouldn't toss for it. Oh well.....

Seriously why would you toss for it? Grand if you are the underdog and win but lose and you are in the lions den. Neutral pitch best option and Armoy close enough for both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
+1.   Why would they play us at home in a semi final?

Look at it another way ... Loughgiel have won every game this year bar two.

Where did these two games (they didn't win) take place and against whom?
why do you have to look at it any other way.   Any team would be mad to agree to that.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.

Listening to the wrong person again SIE - Ballycastle V Loughgiel game will not be in Dunloy as you so definitely state.
nope, the posts were moved. Possibility of a double header in Armoy on 21/22 September. Ballycastle wouldn't toss for it. Oh well.....

Seriously why would you toss for it? Grand if you are the underdog and win but lose and you are in the lions den. Neutral pitch best option and Armoy close enough for both teams
happy enough to play it anywhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
If Ballycastle agree both matches will be in loughgiel. If they don't, our match will be in dunloy.

Listening to the wrong person again SIE - Ballycastle V Loughgiel game will not be in Dunloy as you so definitely state.
nope, the posts were moved. Possibility of a double header in Armoy on 21/22 September. Ballycastle wouldn't toss for it. Oh well.....

Seriously why would you toss for it? Grand if you are the underdog and win but lose and you are in the lions den. Neutral pitch best option and Armoy close enough for both teams
happy enough to play it anywhere.

You're not playing!! So stop making things up!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
I know My hurling days are over MR2, unlike some on here.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
I know My hurling days are over MR2, unlike some on here.  ;)

Your a long time not playing, so keep her lit I say. Hopefully get a few senior reserve games next year!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2013, 06:41:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2013, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
I know My hurling days are over MR2, unlike some on here.  ;)

Your a long time not playing, so keep her lit I say. Hopefully get a few senior reserve games next year!!!
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
After the massive hullabaloo made by K Ryan and the county board about the venue for the u-21 final the game has be confirmed for........................................Thurles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2013, 08:00:59 AM
Not a chance croke would change their mind and why would/should they so no real surprise. Just been an unnecessary  distraction for  the players so hopefully they can now get on preparing for the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
So any chance of the dates and venues for the semi finals yet, becoming yet another embarrassment that we cant even get this sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
So any chance of the dates and venues for the semi finals yet, becoming yet another embarrassment that we cant even get this sorted.

I'd say it will be the Sunday the 15th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
So any chance of the dates and venues for the semi finals yet, becoming yet another embarrassment that we cant even get this sorted.

I'd say it will be the Sunday the 15th

But how will the teams feel then about having their players playing in an AIF the evening before?

Logical to have them in Dunloy and Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2013, 09:47:35 AM
They will be put back until the 22nd of Sept.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2013, 10:10:49 AM
I've no problem as I said before with playing a little politics over the venue - but the "boycott" thing was embarrassing.

Now lets focus on the occaison - Antrim in an All-Ireland final!

As I said before - its unfortunate this "interferes" with club championship.
This happens in nearly every county - and not a bad problem to have!
To alleviate the issue - the county season should be re-structured - but thats a national issue.

Interesting to see the semi-final venues - but even as a city man I really can't wait to watch both games.
For me - this is what the GAA is really all about! Club championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
both games will be the 21st, the sat. cant play it on the 14th with U21 final and def cant be the 15th as it would be unfair to both ballycastle and cushendall to play the game with so many players playing the day before.

cant be played on the22nd as is that not the all ireland football day? would be a closed day for all club fixtures.

sad thing is our camogs play the senior semi final as well that day with Portgleone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
I wouldn't worry about the football final being on, get them played on the 22nd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 04, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
both games will be the 21st, the sat. cant play it on the 14th with U21 final and def cant be the 15th as it would be unfair to both ballycastle and cushendall to play the game with so many players playing the day before.

cant be played on the22nd as is that not the all ireland football day? would be a closed day for all club fixtures.

sad thing is our camogs play the senior semi final as well that day with Portgleone!

Could do with a few of them for the senior lads ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2013, 01:07:25 PM
dont even temp them MR2! LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2013, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?

now now, were not the only dual club left in the senior hurling at the min!  ;D ballycastle and ourselves have a vested interest in the football final.

were big clubs you see  :P ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 04, 2013, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?

Have a look at the fixtures in the IN yesterday. Theres plenty of football fixtures in Tyrone this Sunday and some in other counties too so get on to those counties and ask them to embrace all GAA activity  :o !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
Ulster Hurling Final

Antrim V Down

Celtic Park, Derry

4 November

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
Dunloys is set for sat 21st at 3.30. Not site of the venue, think those two semi finals are double headers like last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2013, 04:30:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
Ulster Hurling Final

Antrim V Down

Celtic Park, Derry

4 November

Ha Ha, brilliant....

The Ulster council couldn't run the proverbial piss up in brewery when it comes to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2013, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2013, 04:30:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
Ulster Hurling Final

Antrim V Down

Celtic Park, Derry

4 November

Ha Ha, brilliant....

The Ulster council couldn't run the proverbial piss up in brewery when it comes to hurling.

There will be a real carnival atmosphere at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
I still haven't managed to put words together to describe this fixture making!
That's it!
I won't try - the fixture date & venue says everything about it better than I can!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Senior camogie semi finals are fixed as follows:

Ballycastle v Rossa (2pm)

Dunloy v Portglenone (3.30pm)

Both matches are being played in Loughgiel on Saturday 21st September 2013

This will be nightmare for supporters and camogs if hurling & camogie clashes!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Senior camogie semi finals are fixed as follows:

Ballycastle v Rossa (2pm)

Dunloy v Portglenone (3.30pm)

Both matches are being played in Loughgiel on Saturday 21st September 2013

This will be nightmare for supporters and camogs if hurling & camogie clashes!

Could Loughgiel host a third game that day with the Dunloy v Cushendall after?

Make them earlier 1pm, 2.30pm, 4pm...then to Dunloy for Loughgiel Ballycastle at 6pm (would it be too dark? If so bring forward 30/45 mins?

A festival of Antrim hurling 4/5 miles apart!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2013, 10:41:32 PM
I was thinking the same myself. I actually was thinking they would play the two camogie games at lgiel then ours after it.

God only knows!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Two different bodies DR aren't gonna share a gate. That would only work if the camogie was played in Fr Barret and the hurling in Fr Healy. Would be a wise solution.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Two different bodies DR aren't gonna share a gate. That would only work if the camogie was played in Fr Barret and the hurling in Fr Healy. Would be a wise solution.

Makes sense!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 05, 2013, 07:21:53 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Two different bodies DR aren't gonna share a gate. That would only work if the camogie was played in Fr Barret and the hurling in Fr Healy. Would be a wise solution.

Makes sense!

So it makes sense for McQuillans to play Loughgiel hurlers in their own backyard in the semi final of senior championship...........I don't think so!!

Understand what ur saying with regards to the finances but just ain't going to happen. Camogie matches could be pulled forward in the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2013, 08:04:45 AM
Camogie is for women and hurling for boys, lets keep it that way. The sooner women are barred from attending matches the better .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 05, 2013, 08:24:44 AM
Quote from: manballandall on September 05, 2013, 08:04:45 AM
Camogie is for women and hurling for boys, lets keep it that way. The sooner women are barred from attending matches the better .

Not even biting  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 05, 2013, 08:28:54 AM
Good girl. Now get back to the kitchen ;). In all honesty I think the proposal of the 3 games at one venue early afternoon and then everyone head on to the later semi is a gear proposal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
The North Antrim U10 Championships (which is a blitz 2-3 hours) is also due to be played on the 21st
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
why dont we play it on the 3rd of november as a curtain raiser to the most exciting game this year, the ulster hurling final!! lol

im sure our county board would think that was a good idea
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
You will all have to wait until Monday. What a joke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2013, 09:40:11 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 05, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
You will all have to wait until Monday. What a joke!
I blame Antrim U21's for this mess! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2013, 10:02:40 AM
County championship semi finals are a double header in Thurles :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2 good luck to anyone who takes them on, I can see two rather feisty affairs.
The choice of ref could be crucial to the outcome of both ties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2 good luck to anyone who takes them on, I can see two rather feisty affairs.
The choice of ref could be crucial to the outcome of both ties.

Some team will have a gripe with whoever is picked to ref them, I think things will get easier next year with the chance to call back a a free after a few seconds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 05, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2 good luck to anyone who takes them on, I can see two rather feisty affairs.
The choice of ref could be crucial to the outcome of both ties.

Antrim don't have a wide choice of referees where a referee would be appointed and a team hasn't have previous experience of their style of refereeing. I'd say the managers of any team involved would emphasise to the players the do's and don'ts of what certain referees pick up on in particular, so no matter the referee neither of the teams should be surprised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 05, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2 good luck to anyone who takes them on, I can see two rather feisty affairs.
The choice of ref could be crucial to the outcome of both ties.

Antrim don't have a wide choice of referees where a referee would be appointed and a team hasn't have previous experience of their style of refereeing. I'd say the managers of any team involved would emphasise to the players the do's and don'ts of what certain referees pick up on in particular, so no matter the referee neither of the teams should be surprised.

Maybe we shouldn't be but we frequently are  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 05, 2013, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.

They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

The CCC don't pick the refs, they set fixtures, dates, times, venues & deal with discipline issues.

It's the refs committee who pick the refs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
they pick league games and submit names for championship games to CCC and county executive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
Friends looking tickets. any spare tickets give me a pm please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 05, 2013, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
What's the panic? Sure we have until Feb to get this played  ;)

Seriously though, how is it taking so long to get a decision on this, firstly they play the QF double header in a terrible venue and now this. We truly are starting look more and more like a shambles no matter what it is that we turn our hand too.


They are just finalizing the referees for the games ;D

I wouldnt be waiting by the phone MR2  ;)

No, I'd say those positions are picked already by the CCC who pick them

Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2 good luck to anyone who takes them on, I can see two rather feisty affairs.
The choice of ref could be crucial to the outcome of both ties.

Some team will have a gripe with whoever is picked to ref them, I think things will get easier next year with the chance to call back a a free after a few seconds

You need all the help you can get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 05, 2013, 09:22:18 PM
Why doesn't the county board think about moving the county semi finals to the scheduled day of the final, the 29th? Push the final back a week to Oct 6th and then the Ulster semi is on the 13th. Could have the 2 semis where they should be, one in Dunloy and then the other in L'giel. I know theres replays to consider but it still seems a better option than having to schedule the 2 semis in to the 21st alongside the camogie matches which are a factor in this whole thing given 2 clubs are involved in both codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 05, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true
I'd imagine that's football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
Hope so just seen people from cdall commmenting on it that why I thought it was hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 05, 2013, 10:28:26 PM
Anyone any tickets for Sunday? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 05, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 05, 2013, 07:21:53 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Two different bodies DR aren't gonna share a gate. That would only work if the camogie was played in Fr Barret and the hurling in Fr Healy. Would be a wise solution.

Makes sense!

So it makes sense for McQuillans to play Loughgiel hurlers in their own backyard in the semi final of senior championship...........I don't think so!!

Understand what ur saying with regards to the finances but just ain't going to happen. Camogie matches could be pulled forward in the day

Read above - suggestion was two camogie and Dall v Dunloy in Loughgiel (across pitches) and then to Dunloy for Loughgiel v Ballycastle.

Happy?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...

So why were the Hurling games brought to LD then?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 09:54:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...

So why were the Hurling games brought to LD then?

I doubt very much if there was 2,000 at the quarter-final games let alone 5,000. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 09:54:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...

So why were the Hurling games brought to LD then?

I doubt very much if there was 2,000 at the quarter-final games let alone 5,000.

Think that was pretty much guaranteed by the selection of the venue. I would say you could have counted the number of St John's and Rossa supporters quite easily. Hardly a single neutral at the games.

Still sticks in my craw that this is supposed to be our Blue Ribbon event of the club season and we currently treating it like a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 06, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 09:54:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...

So why were the Hurling games brought to LD then?

I doubt very much if there was 2,000 at the quarter-final games let alone 5,000.

Think that was pretty much guaranteed by the selection of the venue. I would say you could have counted the number of St John's and Rossa supporters quite easily. Hardly a single neutral at the games.

Still sticks in my craw that this is supposed to be our Blue Ribbon event of the club season and we currently treating it like a joke.
We've reached an All Ireland Final so everything's ok...didnt you know that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2013, 10:33:45 AM
The amount of consensus on the board recently with regard to fixture making being a joke speaks volumes!
Mirrored around every club in the county football and hurling!

Says it all.

As 2 Hands says - its ok because we're in an all-ireland final!
Oh the irony of Antrim complaining about fixture making for this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 10:50:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 09:54:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2013, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on September 06, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 05, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
@paddyc13: Club semifinals being played on sat night with a hour between throw ins in 2 different ends of the county. #MakesNoSense #Disappointing, just seen this on twitter hope its not true

That would be the football semi-finals.  Naomh Pol/Naomh Gall moved from Corrigan to Naomh Eanna at the last minute.  Apparently Corrigan is the only GAA ground in Belfast,other than Casement, with a Safety certificate - needed for capacity of 5000.  The non-availability of the stand means the nominal capacity is greatly reduced, thus making the staging of the game impossible.  All the other clubs can fire away as they are not certified by Belfast City Council.  Never knew that until tonight...

So why were the Hurling games brought to LD then?

I doubt very much if there was 2,000 at the quarter-final games let alone 5,000.

Think that was pretty much guaranteed by the selection of the venue. I would say you could have counted the number of St John's and Rossa supporters quite easily. Hardly a single neutral at the games.

Still sticks in my craw that this is supposed to be our Blue Ribbon event of the club season and we currently treating it like a joke.

Had these two games been in Loughgiel or Ballycastle they would of had double the attendance in my opinion.  One thing which was OK was the £5 entrance fee for the 2 games, I pulled up fully expecting to be hit with a £10 charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 06, 2013, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 05, 2013, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 05, 2013, 07:21:53 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Two different bodies DR aren't gonna share a gate. That would only work if the camogie was played in Fr Barret and the hurling in Fr Healy. Would be a wise solution.

Makes sense!

So it makes sense for McQuillans to play Loughgiel hurlers in their own backyard in the semi final of senior championship...........I don't think so!!

Understand what ur saying with regards to the finances but just ain't going to happen. Camogie matches could be pulled forward in the day

Read above - suggestion was two camogie and Dall v Dunloy in Loughgiel (across pitches) and then to Dunloy for Loughgiel v Ballycastle.

Happy?!

Have read above......sorry where does it mention heading to Dunloy for Town v Shams semi?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Senior camogie semi finals are fixed as follows:

Ballycastle v Rossa (2pm)

Dunloy v Portglenone (3.30pm)

Both matches are being played in Loughgiel on Saturday 21st September 2013

This will be nightmare for supporters and camogs if hurling & camogie clashes!

Could Loughgiel host a third game that day with the Dunloy v Cushendall after?

Make them earlier 1pm, 2.30pm, 4pm...then to Dunloy for Loughgiel Ballycastle at 6pm (would it be too dark? If so bring forward 30/45 mins?

A festival of Antrim hurling 4/5 miles apart!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2013, 02:00:13 PM
Everything will be sorted for Monday.

Keep calm and hurl like fuk! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
Could we not play them in glenbush? 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Been there too many times, lets take it somewhere strange!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on September 06, 2013, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
Could we not play them in glenbush? 8)
We are not going to move our stills to facilitate a match there, so be off with you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2013, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Clan Colla on September 06, 2013, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
Could we not play them in glenbush? 8)
We are not going to move our stills to facilitate a match there, so be off with you.
altnageeragh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 06, 2013, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Senior camogie semi finals are fixed as follows:

Ballycastle v Rossa (2pm)

Dunloy v Portglenone (3.30pm)

Both matches are being played in Loughgiel on Saturday 21st September 2013

This will be nightmare for supporters and camogs if hurling & camogie clashes!

Could Loughgiel host a third game that day with the Dunloy v Cushendall after?

Make them earlier 1pm, 2.30pm, 4pm...then to Dunloy for Loughgiel Ballycastle at 6pm (would it be too dark? If so bring forward 30/45 mins?

A festival of Antrim hurling 4/5 miles apart!

Thanks North Antrim Gael.

Happy CastleCamog?!

Any suggestion on here is entirely irrelevant of course!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2013, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?
I hear there was a real classic defensive game tonight between creggan and cargin. you can keep your bog ball.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2013, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2013, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?
I hear there was a real classic defensive game tonight between creggan and cargin. you can keep your bog ball.  :P

defensive certainly but f**k all classic about it ! There was near as many scores at Windsor Park last night FFS
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Post by: CastleCamog on September 07, 2013, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 06, 2013, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2013, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: CastleCamog on September 04, 2013, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2013, 03:38:36 PM
Where are the Camogie semi finals being played surely they wouldnt fix both them and the hurling for the same day / time / venue?

Senior camogie semi finals are fixed as follows:

Ballycastle v Rossa (2pm)

Dunloy v Portglenone (3.30pm)

Both matches are being played in Loughgiel on Saturday 21st September 2013

This will be nightmare for supporters and camogs if hurling & camogie clashes!

Could Loughgiel host a third game that day with the Dunloy v Cushendall after?

Make them earlier 1pm, 2.30pm, 4pm...then to Dunloy for Loughgiel Ballycastle at 6pm (would it be too dark? If so bring forward 30/45 mins?

A festival of Antrim hurling 4/5 miles apart!

Thanks North Antrim Gael.

Happy CastleCamog?!

Any suggestion on here is entirely irrelevant of course!

Would be happier if they would just fix the darn thing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2013, 11:28:25 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2013, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2013, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: The Memory Man on September 04, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Typical North Antrim response!  Never worry about the bog ballers!! ;)  The sooner we embrace all GAA activity in the county and give up the self promotion, selfishness and work for the greater good we're going nowhere.  I would like to think even a handful of North Antrim Gaels (sorry hurling people!) might have a passing interest in the All Ireland Football Finals?  Maybe I'm just being naive?
I hear there was a real classic defensive game tonight between creggan and cargin. you can keep your bog ball.  :P

defensive certainly but f**k all classic about it ! There was near as many scores at Windsor Park last night FFS
28 men in one half of the field at one point. Can't wait for the final.
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Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2013, 11:31:23 PM
Wrong thread lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 07, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 07, 2013, 11:31:23 PM
Wrong thread lads
well spotted.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
The banner to lift Liam.  Would be amazing. How far have they came in 12 months?  They must have believed 😃  Wee davey won't be seen around Dunloy this year, He'll be drunk for a month. 
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 08, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
The banner to lift Liam.  Would be amazing. How far have they came in 12 months?  They must have believed 😃  Wee davey won't be seen around Dunloy this year, He'll be drunk for a month.

Not over yet. I always find being a couple of points down at half time is sometimes to your advantage we will see..hope Clare win though!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 08, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
  Cork should be a man down. I thought the referee has been decidedly average. He seems to be favouring cork. 
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 08, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
Delighted for Donal O Donavan and Clare had the pleasure of being on the same team as him for one summer. Hopefully Clare will finish the job next day. Is this result any benefit  to our u21's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on September 08, 2013, 05:23:24 PM
Clare can not possibly show up in Thurles For U21 final. So match date will have to be moved and so also should venue be moved. What a brilliant days hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2013, 05:25:11 PM
What a match.  Prob not.  As Clare won't be on the lash now.  Lol. Replay on 28th.  So it's more of a hindrance to our own championship.  But if its another game like today. I can live with that. I also thought ref was hard on Clare at times
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 08, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
Sure the u21 final is set in stone.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
Aye it def is. Is there many on here heading down for it? I'm for headin down, might stay the fri night.
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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 09, 2013, 02:50:02 PM
Any indication as to when the semi-final venues / dates are announced?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2013, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 09, 2013, 02:50:02 PM
Any indication as to when the semi-final venues / dates are announced?
they're meeting tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
Cushendall V Dunloy at Loughgiel

Loughgiel V Ballycastle at Dunloy

One on the sat the other on the sun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
Any times out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2013, 06:11:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
Cushendall V Dunloy at Loughgiel

Loughgiel V Ballycastle at Dunloy

One on the sat the other on the sun
That's the same that I was told last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 09, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
so semis on sunday week and then I take it there will be 2 weeks until final ie the sunday after the new all Ireland hurling final

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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
Loughgiel v town in cushendall sun 22nd at 2.   Dunloy v cushendall in loughgiel saturday at 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 09, 2013, 06:11:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
Cushendall V Dunloy at Loughgiel

Loughgiel V Ballycastle at Dunloy

One on the sat the other on the sun
That's the same that I was told last week.
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
Loughgiel v town in cushendall sun 22nd at 2.   Dunloy v cushendall in loughgiel saturday at 4.

Strange that.... any appointments for the man in the middle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2013, 10:08:49 PM
I haven't heard anything yet mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2013, 10:08:49 PM
I haven't heard anything yet mr2.

Obviously you'd want me but :P...... All joking aside Garret, and Owen may get these games, or even the Derry man Hasson may one. Mark O'Neill also is in the running, Brendan Toland has done rightly also, so plenty lads out there, Aidan and Collie also have done well recently. Shouldn't be any complaints from the clubs on selection of referees I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 09, 2013, 10:29:55 PM
Like the way you put Garret's name first MR  ;) :)

Might score you the Final  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2013, 10:50:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 09, 2013, 10:29:55 PM
Like the way you put Garret's name first MR  ;) :)

Might score you the Final  ;D

I wouldn't be high up any lists, I've listed them the same, I'd be happy with any of them doing the games that weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
I just heard that Garrett is ref in our match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2013, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
I just heard that Garrett is ref in our match.

Sorted then, Garret wouldn't miss much in the game and and has refereed the teams for a few years now so should be no problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on September 10, 2013, 11:14:24 AM
Sunday 15th September.

M/H/C. A Final, St. Johns v Cushendall @ Loughiel 4pm
M/H/C. B Final Oisins v Dunloy @ Loughiel 2-30pm

I/H/C. Carey v Armoy @ Ballycastle 1-30pm
I/H/C. Clooney v Lamh Dhearg @ Ballycastle 3pm

J/F/C. St. Agnes v Davitts @ Sarsfields 2pm.
U/16/H/ Final St. Johns v Rossa @ Sarsfields 3-30pm.

Saturday 21st September.

S/H/C. Dunloy v Cushendall @ Loughiel 4pm.
J/H/C. Creggan v Glenravel @ Ballymena 1pm.
J/H/C. Cushendun v St.Teresas @ Ballymena 2-30pm.

Sunday 22nd September

S/H/C. Loughiel v Ballycastle @ Cushendall  2pm.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on September 10, 2013, 04:15:51 PM
suely that cant be right. johnnies couldnt be asked to play u-16 and minor finals at same time when 4-5 u-16s play on minor team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 10, 2013, 05:20:55 PM
So we know the teams times and venues.  Anyone want to call the score lines of both games and then final? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on September 10, 2013, 05:35:12 PM
sf\s shams by 6`- dall by 5-final dall by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on September 10, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
SA U-16 final will be played on September 21st...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Shamrocks to win - but not easily.
All on the day for the other one!

Does anyone feel either venue suits or doesn't suit any team?
Were clubs consulted?
Not mischief making just curious!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Shamrocks to win - but not easily.
All on the day for the other one!

Does anyone feel either venue suits or doesn't suit any team?
Were clubs consulted?
Not mischief making just curious!

Venues are great. Looking forward to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2013, 08:00:01 AM
I'm actually amazed we got a semi final in Cushendall, despite having a big pitch in good order and loads of parking we never got big games. Good to see a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 08:19:44 AM
I think it's well overdue for yous JJ. I actually don't mind going to cushendall for this match. Not only plenty of room, it also doesn't take an hour to get out of. I just hope it's a good day as the rain and wind moving in from the Irish Sea can be a big factor there.

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Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
Not to mention handy for the pub and certain McCooey caravans!
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Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2013, 11:13:53 AM
So is there a date for the County Final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2013, 12:29:33 PM
As far as predictions go with Dall by 2 and Ballycastle by 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Shamrocks to win - but not easily.
All on the day for the other one!

Does anyone feel either venue suits or doesn't suit any team?
Were clubs consulted?
Not mischief making just curious!

Agree with your first prediction - Shamrocks should win but not easily (would be no major shock to see Ballycastle win this - the signs are there)

In my opinion Cushendall will beat Dunloy with a bit to spare. 

I have heard the Shamrocks were influential regarding the dates (apparently they had their own agenda) and Cushendall via "the right channels" secured the second semi-final.  Loughgiel the right venue for the first semi.  I'd have thought Dunloy would have been the ideal choice for the second semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 12:55:56 PM
Loughgiel to win by 10 FFS, Cushendall to scrape home by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
Nobody knows the date for the final then?
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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 11, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
Loughgiel and Cushendall both to win by 5+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 01:15:42 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Shamrocks to win - but not easily.
All on the day for the other one!

Does anyone feel either venue suits or doesn't suit any team?
Were clubs consulted?
Not mischief making just curious!

Agree with your first prediction - Shamrocks should win but not easily (would be no major shock to see Ballycastle win this - the signs are there)

In my opinion Cushendall will beat Dunloy with a bit to spare. 

I have heard the Shamrocks were influential regarding the dates (apparently they had their own agenda) and Cushendall via "the right channels" secured the second semi-final.  Loughgiel the right venue for the first semi.  I'd have thought Dunloy would have been the ideal choice for the second semi.
So, basically, what you're saying is it's loughgiel's fault?   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 11, 2013, 04:01:11 PM
You must have watched a different Ballycastle to me.

Loughgiel will win by 8 - 10 points

Our game could go either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
I honestly think Ballycastle will beat Loughgiel. Firstly it must be tough to keep players motivated after winning 3 in a row and an All Ireland. I might get abuse for saying this but I don't think Loughgiel have taken the Antrim competitions seriously, they have played fella's out of position, given guys time off and played loads of reserve hurlers in senior games. PJ was interviewed on the Hogan Stand web site and he is already talking about winning another All Ireland. I think they have started to take winning Antrim and Ulster for granted. Ballycastle have already beaten and drawn with them this year, I think they are starting to look good. If Clarke, Mc Afee & Mc Caughan stand up and perform along with Neil Mc Auley they'll be hard to stop.

They are sitting on 27 points, not bad when you are playing players out of position and reserves. They have every right to speak of All Irelands, they have been there recently and winning Antrim more or less gives you 60 minutes from playing in Croke Park. So for that every team that has a good chance of winning Antrim can talk about All Ireland glory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
The players want 4 in a row as bad as they wanted 3. But, I agree, the town must be big favourites. Sure they're the only team to bate us this year. They've been playing well and we haven't . It's not looking good for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
The players want 4 in a row as bad as they wanted 3. But, I agree, the town must be big favourites. Sure they're the only team to bate us this year. They've been playing well and we haven't . It's not looking good for us.

Fcuk sake, I'm being hounded by say our lads are going to get bate they aren't up to it Cargin are the better team, our lads want the 15 in a row but too many miles on the clock ....... Blah blah

Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
The players want 4 in a row as bad as they wanted 3. But, I agree, the town must be big favourites. Sure they're the only team to bate us this year. They've been playing well and we haven't . It's not looking good for us.

Fcuk sake, I'm being hounded by say our lads are going to get bate they aren't up to it Cargin are the better team, our lads want the 15 in a row but too many miles on the clock ....... Blah blah

Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here
galls to win by 1 point. 4-3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 05:51:44 PM






Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
The players want 4 in a row as bad as they wanted 3. But, I agree, the town must be big favourites. Sure they're the only team to bate us this year. They've been playing well and we haven't . It's not looking good for us.

Fcuk sake, I'm being hounded by say our lads are going to get bate they aren't up to it Cargin are the better team, our lads want the 15 in a row but too many miles on the clock ....... Blah blah

Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here
galls to win by 1 point. 4-3.
I'll take that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 11, 2013, 06:04:04 PM
Think Ballycastle v lgiel match will b close, hopefully will go our way, how can Ballycastle b favourites if u look at bookies lgiel r 5/6 to win championship cdall 5/2 Dunloy 9/2 and the town 13/2 not bad considering at one stage we were neary 20/1 with some bookies .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 11, 2013, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
I honestly think Ballycastle will beat Loughgiel. Firstly it must be tough to keep players motivated after winning 3 in a row and an All Ireland. I might get abuse for saying this but I don't think Loughgiel have taken the Antrim competitions seriously, they have played fella's out of position, given guys time off and played loads of reserve hurlers in senior games. PJ was interviewed on the Hogan Stand web site and he is already talking about winning another All Ireland. I think they have started to take winning Antrim and Ulster for granted. Ballycastle have already beaten and drawn with them this year, I think they are starting to look good. If Clarke, Mc Afee & Mc Caughan stand up and perform along with Neil Mc Auley they'll be hard to stop.
playing lads out of position,giving some young lads a chance and resting lads.  Hardly not taking it serious JJ.  If that's the case yourselves can't be taking it overly serious.  A load of young lads in,   As for outcome. Am going ourselves by 8. Dunloy by 1. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 11, 2013, 07:30:41 PM

[/quote]galls to win by 1 point. 4-3.
[/quote]

The days of the 1-0 win can't be far off then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2013, 03:49:39 PM
I honestly think Ballycastle will beat Loughgiel. Firstly it must be tough to keep players motivated after winning 3 in a row and an All Ireland. I might get abuse for saying this but I don't think Loughgiel have taken the Antrim competitions seriously, they have played fella's out of position, given guys time off and played loads of reserve hurlers in senior games. PJ was interviewed on the Hogan Stand web site and he is already talking about winning another All Ireland. I think they have started to take winning Antrim and Ulster for granted. Ballycastle have already beaten and drawn with them this year, I think they are starting to look good. If Clarke, Mc Afee & Mc Caughan stand up and perform along with Neil Mc Auley they'll be hard to stop.

They are sitting on 27 points, not bad when you are playing players out of position and reserves. They have every right to speak of All Irelands, they have been there recently and winning Antrim more or less gives you 60 minutes from playing in Croke Park. So for that every team that has a good chance of winning Antrim can talk about All Ireland glory
I'm glad you quoted this MR2 as I've a bit of an issue with how out of context PJ was quoted  by JJ. JJ's original post seems to have been somewhat edited/deleted. PJ actually stated in the last paragraph of his interview that all he was thinking about was winning the Antrim championship:

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=199920


"It was a massive achievement winning the All-Ireland. We have our mind set now on retaining the Antrim Championship because if you win that, everything sort of snowballs from there."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 07:52:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 05:51:44 PM






Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2013, 04:12:04 PM
The players want 4 in a row as bad as they wanted 3. But, I agree, the town must be big favourites. Sure they're the only team to bate us this year. They've been playing well and we haven't . It's not looking good for us.

Fcuk sake, I'm being hounded by say our lads are going to get bate they aren't up to it Cargin are the better team, our lads want the 15 in a row but too many miles on the clock ....... Blah blah

Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here
galls to win by 1 point. 4-3.
I'll take that
oh, I know you would.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 11, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Is the final set for Sunday 6th October?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 12, 2013, 07:52:07 AM
Great article today in Irish news by christy o Connor , sums it up perfectly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2013, 12:36:36 PM
loughgiel by 8 in their game, been impressed with the town lately but lgiel have too much in the tank still to give.

our game, i aint calling it at all. nothing at all between us, a 1 point win either way in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2013, 12:36:36 PM
loughgiel by 8 in their game, been impressed with the town lately but lgiel have too much in the tank still to give.

our game, i aint calling it at all. nothing at all between us, a 1 point win either way in my opinion.

Not going on recent results  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on September 12, 2013, 03:03:48 PM
AS regards the semi finals heres my predictions:

Cushendall v Dunloy - will certainly be close. However i just feel that the Dall have a real point to prove after the last few years. McManus and Gradffin are two pivotal players for them and they have a real look of hunger about them. My only concern for them is some of their young lads are light and championship can find you out. But Cushendall by 3.

Ballycastle v Loughgiel - I have to say im delighted with our progress as a team this year, particularly over last 10 weeks. We now have our most committed and talented group in years. Its now about seeing how far we have come. I really think we will put it up to loughgiel, but most likely loughgiel will pull away in last 10. Loughgiel to win by 4.

On another note - the decision to play our game at 2pm on the sunday of All-Ireland football final is mindboggling to say the least. Attendance will be affected big time - especially neutrals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2013, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: Leyland on September 12, 2013, 03:03:48 PM
AS regards the semi finals heres my predictions:

Cushendall v Dunloy - will certainly be close. However i just feel that the Dall have a real point to prove after the last few years. McManus and Gradffin are two pivotal players for them and they have a real look of hunger about them. My only concern for them is some of their young lads are light and championship can find you out. But Cushendall by 3.

Ballycastle v Loughgiel - I have to say im delighted with our progress as a team this year, particularly over last 10 weeks. We now have our most committed and talented group in years. Its now about seeing how far we have come. I really think we will put it up to loughgiel, but most likely loughgiel will pull away in last 10. Loughgiel to win by 4.

On another note - the decision to play our game at 2pm on the sunday of All-Ireland football final is mindboggling to say the least. Attendance will be affected big time - especially neutrals

In all honesty had the second semi final been played in Dunloy it would probably have attracted a larger crowd of neutrals, so fixing it down the glen was maybe a realisation that with the football the neutrals attending would have been low anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
Well done to big Jackie getting the minor B Final. Hearing great reports about the games he's done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2013, 08:47:56 PM
The final is to be played 29th september in Loughgiel or Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2013, 08:47:56 PM
The final is to be played 29th september in Loughgiel or Ballycastle.

Ballycastle it is then ;)

I'd have thought Dunloy would be in with a shout  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 12, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Milltown stick u to ur shitty football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
Apparently there's an all ireland final on saturday...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2013, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 12, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Milltown stick u to ur shitty football
[/quote

very touchy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on September 12, 2013, 11:23:27 PM
Same 15 then as Wexford hardly a shock. How fit is Ciaran Johnston though? Thought the injury was meant to be pretty bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2013, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2013, 12:36:36 PM
loughgiel by 8 in their game, been impressed with the town lately but lgiel have too much in the tank still to give.

our game, i aint calling it at all. nothing at all between us, a 1 point win either way in my opinion.

Not going on recent results  ;)

we were going flat out that night as well  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
Apparently there's an all ireland final on saturday...


Yes heading down Sat morning, no drinking till I hit Thurles........... I hope

(http://www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/assets/antrim-u21s.jpg)

Good luck to the boys they have done great and can hold their heads up high when they march behind the band on the Sarsfields pitch. We've 2 lads taht are playing and one being the Captain, Jackson.

We have some talented players at this level so hopefully the defenders can win their battles and the forwards take their chances when it comes to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 10:16:38 AM
Yeah ...good luck to the boys tomorrow. Clare are a very good side but lets just think about hurling every ball for the full 60 minutes, keep our heads and see where it gets us. This side is more than capable of putting up a good performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 10:16:38 AM
Yeah ...good luck to the boys tomorrow. Clare are a very good side but lets just think about hurling every ball for the full 60 minutes, keep our heads and see where it gets us. This side is more than capable of putting up a good performance

The lads who turned out deserve this chance to play in an AIF, just go and give it a really good go and see how it goes. No one expects anything against an extremely experienced Clare side, so why not go and give it a real good cut and see where it ends up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2013, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 12, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Milltown stick u to ur shitty football
[/quote

very touchy

In my opinion, match officials should not be making personal comments on games before they happen.

Say for example, you are appointed to officiate in some capacity in the L/G v B/C game.

Say Loughgiel win the game in controversial circumstances by a big decision (rightly or wrongly) you have made the call on that has ultimately had a significant bearing on the game ....

Don't you think question marks would be hanging over you as you have stated ...

"Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here"

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
Let's leave club hurling to the side for a day or two. Come on Antrim!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on September 13, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
Yes, best of luck to the U21s.  Surely, give it a lash and see what happens, but there's some genuine talent there too. H'waaan the Saffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
Apparently there's an all ireland final on saturday...


Yes heading down Sat morning, no drinking till I hit Thurles........... I hope

(http://www.antrimgaa.net/uploads/assets/antrim-u21s.jpg)

Good luck to the boys they have done great and can hold their heads up high when they march behind the band on the Sarsfields pitch. We've 2 lads taht are playing and one being the Captain, Jackson.

We have some talented players at this level so hopefully the defenders can win their battles and the forwards take their chances when it comes to them

I'd know some of those lads, but what's the club make up of that team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
Let's leave club hurling to the side for a day or two. Come on Antrim!!!!!!

Only a handful of Antrim supporters attended the Semi-Final ... quite a few will no doubt be jumping on the bandwagon for the final ....

No disrespect intended towards the players and management, whom I'm sure have for redoubled their efforts since the semi-final, but I reckon it will be an 18+ pt victory for Clare

Just the way I see it ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2013, 12:22:28 PM
There's a good spread of clubs Johnney which is good to see.

3 ballycastle, 2 cushendall, 2 dunloy, 2 galls, 2 johnnies,1 creggan, 1 sarsfields,  and 1 loughgiel. 1 missing either another johnnies man or a rossa man.


I think that's what it is anyway...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 12:26:06 PM
Ger Dixon (Dunloy)

Conal Morgan (St Johns)
Matthew Donnelly (Ballycastle)
Tiernan Coyle (Loughgiel)

Tomas Ó Ciarain (St Galls)
Paddy McNaughton (Cushendall)
Ciaran Johnson (St Johns)

Jackson McGreevey (St Galls)
Eoghan Campbell (Cushendall)

Shane Dooey (Dunloy)
Stephen McAfee (Ballycastle)
Niall McKenna (Sarsfields)

Daniel McKernan (Sarsfields)
Conor McCann (Creggan)
Ciaran Clarke (Ballycastle)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2013, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on September 12, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Milltown stick u to ur shitty football
[/quote

very touchy

In my opinion, match officials should not be making personal comments on games before they happen.

Say for example, you are appointed to officiate in some capacity in the L/G v B/C game.

Say Loughgiel win the game in controversial circumstances by a big decision (rightly or wrongly) you have made the call on that has ultimately had a significant bearing on the game ....

Don't you think question marks would be hanging over you as you have stated ...

"Facts are the Ballycastle will not be winning against Loughgiel, so move on nothing to see here"

Fcuk off, numpty, I aint a match official and Ill say what I want on a discussion board ya ballon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
Very touchy MR2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :'(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
P.S Ballon means : the physical lightness and strength that increases a dancer's elevation  ???

Does any one else agree with my view that match officials making comments about the results of games (that they could potentially be officiating in) is wrong or am I on my own on this one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 13, 2013, 01:21:12 PM
On your own ya balloon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
P.S Ballon means : the physical lightness and strength that increases a dancer's elevation  ???

Does any one else agree with my view that match officials making comments about the results of games (that they could potentially be officiating in) is wrong or am I on my own on this one?

So you think that no official goes into a game thinking one side will win or lose?

As long as they dont have money on the outcome then they are allowed and opinion and if they want to express said opinion on a 'discussion' board then fair play.

PS It will be a while before we have to worry about MR2 officiating any of these big games anyway  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
P.S Ballon means : the physical lightness and strength that increases a dancer's elevation  ???

Does any one else agree with my view that match officials making comments about the results of games (that they could potentially be officiating in) is wrong or am I on my own on this one?

So you think that no official goes into a game thinking one side will win or lose?

As long as they dont have money on the outcome then they are allowed and opinion and if they want to express said opinion on a 'discussion' board then fair play.

PS It will be a while before we have to worry about MR2 officiating any of these big games anyway  ;D

Thinking it and putting in it writing on a discussion board, when your identity is known,  is two different things ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 13, 2013, 01:21:12 PM
On your own ya balloon

At least someone from St Galls can spell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
Are you boys for real? Of course hirty darry is correct here - no ref should be publicly stating his predictions for games nor in fact should he say anything derogatory about any team or player in a public forum. Outside of Social Media to friends or family is fair enough. If I saw a comment about my team by a referee and went out next week to see him officiating I would not be best pleased.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 03:44:18 PM
Just because you say "of course", of course doesn't mean you're right. The mans giving opinions on games he's no influence over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Is the guy not allowed an opinion because he's a ref??

As skull says what difference does it make if he's not involved. Fair enough if he is involved but he's not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Is the guy not allowed an opinion because he's a ref?? -

As skull says what difference does it make if he's not involved. Fair enough if he is involved but he's not.

So that's a round about way of saying that if he was involved it would make a difference.

I only used that one particular game as an example (a division 4 game would have perhaps been more realistic)

It could well be the case that MR2 could make a comment about any game, with the potential he could be appointed to official in some capacity in that game - does that not leave him open?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 04:34:13 PM
He has already stated that he's not involved in any of the semis. So what's the problem? He's entitled to an  opinion as much as any other keyboard warrior.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2013, 04:39:39 PM
We all have preconceptions about things e.g who will win this game / that game etc

All refs will have them to some degree.

If they articulate them in game they are involved in then that could mean someone may read/hear that and consture some bias if they're beaten.

If they're not involved then they can have no bearing on anything so what is the big deal?

Yes it would be a bad idea for a ref to make comments on a game he's involved in before it but that's neither here nor there as he's not involved!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 04:55:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 04:34:13 PM
He has already stated that he's not involved in any of the semis. So what's the problem? He's entitled to an  opinion as much as any other keyboard warrior.  ;)

There is no problem.

MR2 is not officiating in the game I gave an example of  ....  end of

My original statement read ...

"In my opinion, match officials should not be making personal comments on games before they happen."

Is this not a fair comment?

Perhaps this is restricting MR2's progress as a ref - I have actually done him a favour by highlighting this.

No gossip from any of your informants this week SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Have a read through his posts and he talks about players in various games for various clubs. He is of course entitled to his opinion but in a public forum where his identity as a ref is known?? Wise up fellas. Sure he is causing friction before he takes the field.

i am only a recent blow in to belfast but i hear a former ref (but hes still officiating) is under investigation for his twitter musings during games while umpiring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Is the guy not allowed an opinion because he's a ref?? -

As skull says what difference does it make if he's not involved. Fair enough if he is involved but he's not.

So that's a round about way of saying that if he was involved it would make a difference.

I only used that one particular game as an example (a division 4 game would have perhaps been more realistic)

It could well be the case that MR2 could make a comment about any game, with the potential he could be appointed to official in some capacity in that game - does that not leave him open?

For all I know you could be an official.

This is a nonsense ffs!! Are you for real or on the wind up? I couldn't care less who wins these matches, I won't be refereeing my own (unless no referee turns up and we win the toss) team, and the outcome of these games will have no bearing on my club. Anyone who thinks that any of the referees go out and not have an idea as to who'll win the match is deluded ffs.

As for div 4 games dirty, I haven't had the pleasure of doing any this year, div 2 mainly with 3 div one games and before the game started I had an idea who was going to win :o

As for my progress what are you on about? Fra and what crap are you talking about? I'm finding all the attention amusing to say the least, no one has said anything to me other than give me games in both hurling and football to referee, in fact I'm out next weekend, I wonder who'll win.......

I'll give you another prediction, Loughgiel will beat Ballycastle by 10 points and the final will be in Ballycastle, Mystic Meg me ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:07:01 PM
Nobody said you'd be favouring teams but when you come out with comments about clubs or players it will get their backs up and go again you.

fix away at games, i dont have any allegiances anyhow, not really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:07:01 PM
Nobody said you'd be favouring teams but when you come out with comments about clubs or players it will get their backs up and go again you.

fix away at games, i dont have any allegiances anyhow, not really.

So if no one is saying I'm favouring teams then whats the problem? Teams are beat by other teams they are not beat by the referee. Back up a statement with some fact why don't you

So are you (who's hiding behind a keyboard) claiming I'm fixing games? Wally. Most people who have played will have opinions about clubs, there are many clubs I like sometimes I don't like my own club but I'll not get into that ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
That last comment was a joke obviously!

Are you going to start name calling?

I bumped a quote on the football section where you said young Nugent was not a 'cultured' footballer. Now, thats a referee talking about a 17 year old lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 13, 2013, 07:32:46 PM
On behalf of everyone at chateau Jeepers Creepers, I would like to wish the u-21s' all the best for their AI final tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 13, 2013, 08:15:48 PM
good luck to all the u21s tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 04:55:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 04:34:13 PM
He has already stated that he's not involved in any of the semis. So what's the problem? He's entitled to an  opinion as much as any other keyboard warrior.  ;)

There is no problem.

MR2 is not officiating in the game I gave an example of  ....  end of

My original statement read ...

"In my opinion, match officials should not be making personal comments on games before they happen."

Is this not a fair comment?

Perhaps this is restricting MR2's progress as a ref - I have actually done him a favour by highlighting this.

No gossip from any of your informants this week SIE?
No.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club
I'd think that's about  the best panel we've got going on the past couple of years. Yes there are arguments for other players, but other clubs would have similar positions about some of their players. Go with the personnel that got them there.

I'd like to reiterate all the positive messages that have been posted here. Good luck to you all. I can't get there tomorrow but I'll be glued to TG4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
That last comment was a joke obviously!

Are you going to start name calling?

I bumped a quote on the football section where you said young Nugent was not a 'cultured' footballer. Now, thats a referee talking about a 17 year old lad.

What's your point? I watched the game and had an opinion. I've known and played against his Da since under 12 so I'd say the same thing to him, it's my opinion. You don't like it? Fine. I wasn't negative, I just said he wasn't a 'cultured' player in my view from what I seen on the night, I'm confused with your point of me being a referee with a point of view.

What you're saying is anyone who is a position of umpiring/refereeing/linesman or CCC can't have a view. Have you read the Antrim guestbook? have you read newspapers when managers/referees and other officials have put their views across. Get a grip ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 13, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
Really looking forward to the occasion tomorrow. We don't get to them too often so hopefully theres a big support there and the team keeps going to the very end no matter the score. Its a massive task against this Clare team. They ripped Tipp a new one in the Munster final and tore Galway apart in the 2nd half of the semi. For me its not actually about the result tomorrow its what the knock on effect will be. Hopefully theres kids going down on buses who might not be massive hurling fans but they go back after tomorrow and start to play more. We hopefully then see more adults getting involved at underage level in clubs and maybe our county board will actually avoid fixture clashes in future years!!!

Best of luck to the team tomorrow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 11:32:50 PM
quite possible the saffs are facing one of the best u21 teams in the history of the competition

I just hope we give a good account of ourselves and if we can keep it low scoring all the better

one thing I can't wait to experience is the antrim support.  here there are a lot of buses goin to it

I shall be heading with a group of lads in the car as could be a while before we are in another one

though I hope not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2013, 11:43:36 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 13, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
Really looking forward to the occasion tomorrow. We don't get to them too often so hopefully theres a big support there and the team keeps going to the very end no matter the score. Its a massive task against this Clare team. They ripped Tipp a new one in the Munster final and tore Galway apart in the 2nd half of the semi. For me its not actually about the result tomorrow its what the knock on effect will be. Hopefully theres kids going down on buses who might not be massive hurling fans but they go back after tomorrow and start to play more. We hopefully then see more adults getting involved at underage level in clubs and maybe our county board will actually avoid fixture clashes in future years!!!

Best of luck to the team tomorrow!

Youre dreaming Fairhead. Apathy in a large portion of the hurling population is thriving. Sadly, "leave it to someone else to do it" is the motto for too many. Fair play to the men that pushed on regardless and have helped get these lads to this day

Not many young kids will get there due to the distance I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.

Why is it relevant what club I am associated with?

Why would I get barred?

Just enjoying a bit of friendly banter  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 14, 2013, 11:20:41 AM
Good luck Antrim for the u21 final this afternoon. Hopefully all of your lads play to their full potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.

Why is it relevant what club I am associated with?

Why would I get barred?

Just enjoying a bit of friendly banter  :)
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior with the cloak of anonymity around your gizzard. If we know your club at least we can banter back.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club ;)

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.

Why is it relevant what club I am associated with?

Why would I get barred?

Just enjoying a bit of friendly banter  :)
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior with the cloak of anonymity around your gizzard. If we know your club at least we can banter back.  ;)

I think I'd rather keep the cloak on, keeps me sheltered while others get caught out in the stormy weather!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 14, 2013, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: Fra1971 on September 13, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
That last comment was a joke obviously!

Are you going to start name calling?

I bumped a quote on the football section where you said young Nugent was not a 'cultured' footballer. Now, thats a referee talking about a 17 year old lad.

What's your point? I watched the game and had an opinion. I've known and played against his Da since under 12 so I'd say the same thing to him, it's my opinion. You don't like it? Fine. I wasn't negative, I just said he wasn't a 'cultured' player in my view from what I seen on the night, I'm confused with your point of me being a referee with a point of view.

What you're saying is anyone who is a position of umpiring/refereeing/linesman or CCC can't have a view. Have you read the Antrim guestbook? have you read newspapers when managers/referees and other officials have put their views across. Get a grip ffs

Remember if conor McCann has a stormer today, you are not allowed to comment. You may ref him in the JHC, no opinions remember.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club ;)

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.

Why is it relevant what club I am associated with?

Why would I get barred?

Just enjoying a bit of friendly banter  :)
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior with the cloak of anonymity around your gizzard. If we know your club at least we can banter back.  ;)

I think I'd rather keep the cloak on, keeps me sheltered while others get caught out in the stormy weather!
or you're yella.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 14, 2013, 03:09:38 PM
MR2 You dont come across very well on this at all. You build yourself up to be something you are not. The chat of 'opinions' is ironic since me and another newbie are being laughed at for giving ours by all you hardened keyboard warriors!

Also dont tell me about the CCC, I know how it works - trust me  ;)

they should be made aware that RM's mate isnt the only 1 needs investigating over social networking shenanigans.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fra1971 on September 14, 2013, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 13, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
SIE is there only one boy at that standard for the shamrocks ????????????/  just a little surprised so few from such a big club ;)

He'll come back to you once he asks someone!
and what club are you a member of HD?

WUM's don't have any clubs, they have been away for a while but have come back it seems. Can't resist then go mental and get barred.

Why is it relevant what club I am associated with?

Why would I get barred?

Just enjoying a bit of friendly banter  :)
Because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior with the cloak of anonymity around your gizzard. If we know your club at least we can banter back.  ;)

I think I'd rather keep the cloak on, keeps me sheltered while others get caught out in the stormy weather!
or you're yella.

or yer yella, what a childish comment. Horribly childish. I will bid the keyboard warriors goodbye, this is not the site for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Hang around FRA, you're good crack!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 04:10:10 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
I'm just sitting here watching the build up wishing I could be there. Semple has fairly filled up the last 20 minutes of the first match. C'mon lads!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Sorry, I can't watch any more of this :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 14, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Sorry, I can't watch any more of this :'(

I agree. Knew Clare were very strong but thought we would be much more competitive. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 14, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Sorry, I can't watch any more of this :'(

I agree. Knew Clare were very strong but thought we would be much more competitive.

That Clare team would beat a hell of a lot of senior sides, unfortunately light years ahead of our boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 14, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 14, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Sorry, I can't watch any more of this :'(

I agree. Knew Clare were very strong but thought we would be much more competitive.

Lads cork seniors couldn't handle most of those lads for 55 mins on Sunday, some outfit. One thing I will say is distribution from puck outs and to be fair options for puck outs are hurting us greatly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ruairi on September 14, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
They are too good....it's back-boned by a seriously strong senior side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 14, 2013, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 14, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 14, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: AQMP on September 14, 2013, 05:27:31 PM
Sorry, I can't watch any more of this :'(

I agree. Knew Clare were very strong but thought we would be much more competitive.

Lads cork seniors couldn't handle most of those lads for 55 mins on Sunday, some outfit. One thing I will say is distribution from puck outs and to be fair options for puck outs are hurting us greatly.

Four of the U-21 team started against Cork last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
14 are on the panel. Irrespective of the result it is still a proud day to see antrim in an ai final.

That clare side has been talked of as the best u21 side ever and they really are superb.

There are some good players in the u21 side for antrim who will hopefully go on to do well at senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 14, 2013, 06:38:51 PM
Clare out scored Antrim in the second half by 0-12 to 0-8. But they took off four of their senior players at that stage.  Dose anyone know how many of that Antrim team will be there next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 07:52:10 PM
I'm just glad they got there. Outclassed in the first half but played much better in the second. I don't think even they thought they would win. This is the same Clare team that should have won the minors 4 years ago against Kilkenny. 4 years of solid training as a unit and no petty club squabbles. Lessons to be learned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
No real surprise with the score line, however a lot of basic errors which the lads will be disappointed about. However watching the game in my own club with a lot of juveniles  who were spellbound with the names from their club on TV which will hopefully not let let the score spoil their enthusiasm for the game. Aontrim Abu!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
I'm not a bad judge called 18 + pts, as much as I didn't want to see that type of result.

MR2 since you claim you can say what you want and can have an opinion on any hurling game ...

... do you have an opinion on the upcoming Creggan v Con Magee game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 14, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
What's ur opinion HD?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
Hirty seems to have developed a bit if a crush

Give the man a rest will ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
Today....it is what it is. Boys who are still good hurlers made look very average by a top of the range Clare side used to playing at a level we've never not been able to get to. Not their fault.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 14, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
What's ur opinion HD?

In all honestly, they are two sides I would not be familiar with.

Looking at their league results Creggan have had comfortable victories(8 & 20pts).

On this basis only (I know championship is a different ball game) logic points to a handy enough victory for Creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 14, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
What's ur opinion HD?

In all honestly, they are two sides I would not be familiar with.

Looking at their league results Creggan have had comfortable victories(8 & 20pts).

On this basis only (I know championship is a different ball game) logic points to a handy enough victory for Creggan.
Are you trying to affect the referee's opinion on the game?? He might read this post, you know.
I hope all he does is read! ;)

I'll tell you who will win tomorrow's intermediate games as well:

Clooney (lot of people fancy LD but I beg to differ)

Carey (could be a feisty affair - bit of a local derby, Carey should win with a bit to spare)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 10:31:12 PM
Bog ash??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2013, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:29:52 PM
FAO Milltown Row:

Rossa will win the 2014 Antrim championship. Be sure to factor this comment in if you referee any of their games next year.
and also if we beat the town, against the odds.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:29:52 PM
FAO Milltown Row:

Rossa will win the 2014 Antrim "Intermediate"championship. Be sure to factor this comment in if you referee any of their games next year.

Fixed that for you, that will be your level next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2013, 01:02:45 PM
Despite the scoreline yesterday I thought Christopher McGuinness had an excellent game. He won about 4 frees that were all scored and got one himself. He wouldn't have looked out of place on the Clare squad. Hard luck Antrim, good year for the u21 side and hopefully we build on it next year by doing some hard training and see what happens.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:29:52 PM
FAO Milltown Row:

Rossa will win the 2014 Antrim championship. Be sure to factor this comment in if you referee any of their games next year.

Ok, thats worth a punt. Was at the game today and I heard the referee say that he thought a team should win the match!! I was on the ball to the CCC to get him removed ffs, they told me to fcuk off. What's their craic surely the read the board, tut tut


on a serious note

Antrim minor Hurling Championship

Cushendall 3-12 Johnnies 0-01 HT

Thats some scoreline, can the referee say at this point one team will beat another? hmmmm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
Nearly over in the minor final

3-19 0-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 15, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Any results from intermediate games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 15, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Any results from intermediate games?


If they are over I'll talk about them ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
Carey beat a stubborn Armoy team, Carey just had the better hurling but couldn't shake off this Armoy team who must rue a first half display with the wind. The wind played a major part in this game, with the better hurling being done by the team playing against the wind funny enough. It should be a decent final as Clooney Gaels were very impressive against Lamhs, PJ is a class act and I only watched the first half but he scored a goal with his first touch and I'd be very surprised his marker made it to the end without getting sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
Carey beat a stubborn Armoy team, Carey just had the better hurling but couldn't shake off this Armoy team who must rue a first half display with the wind. The wind played a major part in this game, with the better hurling being done by the team playing against the wind funny enough. It should be a decent final as Clooney Gaels were very impressive against Lamhs, PJ is a class act and I only watched the first half but he scored a goal with his first touch and I'd be very surprised his marker made it to the end without getting sent off.
careful now. You don't want to express an opinion in your precarious position mr2. God knows, Antrim is coming down with referees waiting to take your place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 15, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 15, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Any results from intermediate games?


If they are over I'll talk about them ;)

Glad to see you've taken my advice.

Knew you'd see sense.

PS another two results I called correctly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 15, 2013, 09:03:02 PM
Cushendall are a club with momentum at the minute, securing the Minor and Reserve Championships at all county level now.

They will be hard to stop in the Senior C/ship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 15, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 15, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
Any results from intermediate games?


If they are over I'll talk about them ;)

Glad to see you've taken my advice.

Knew you'd see sense.

PS another two results I called correctly.

Like I'm going to take advice from you :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 06:26:56 PM
Carey beat a stubborn Armoy team, Carey just had the better hurling but couldn't shake off this Armoy team who must rue a first half display with the wind. The wind played a major part in this game, with the better hurling being done by the team playing against the wind funny enough. It should be a decent final as Clooney Gaels were very impressive against Lamhs, PJ is a class act and I only watched the first half but he scored a goal with his first touch and I'd be very surprised his marker made it to the end without getting sent off.
careful now. You don't want to express an opinion in your precarious position mr2. God knows, Antrim is coming down with referees waiting to take your place.

Sure there are plenty of referees out there now, you'll find that referees who's clubs are in div 1 won't be able to referee that league cause they could 'fix' a result.

Nut job

Anyway Castles pitch today was great considering the weather

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
I don't know that much about the minor hurling this year but is that cushendall win not a surprise especially the winning margin??

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
I don't know that much about the minor hurling this year but is that cushendall win not a surprise especially the winning margin??

They hammered Rossa in the semi final so I'd say they were a good team, youn Chrissy McNaughton is a cracker and they have couple lads on the senior team also. Things looking rosy again in the Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
Mccambridge is a minor isn't he and on the senior team? Yeah christy mcnaughton looks a good one. Looks a good bit bigger than the brother shane. Wonder how long till he breaks into the senior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 11:21:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
Mccambridge is a minor isn't he and on the senior team? Yeah christy mcnaughton looks a good one. Looks a good bit bigger than the brother shane. Wonder how long till he breaks into the senior team.

Aye he might even end up better than Shane, he'll be on senior team next year, he's still under 16 ffs!! Otherwise I'd say he'd make the odd appearance on the seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 11:25:07 PM
No way... He was a county minor last year! Hopefully be a good one. The brother can be frustrating. On his day could roast anyone but a bit inconsistent at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2013, 11:37:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2013, 11:25:07 PM
No way... He was a county minor last year! Hopefully be a good one. The brother can be frustrating. On his day could roast anyone but a bit inconsistent at times.

Defo under 16, he's a goodin surely. Very natural gifted player, I think he scored couple of goals today.

The senior games next week should be belters, really looking forward to them, think I'll take in Saturday's game, Dunloy will love the fact that they have been given the underdogs tag. If the Dall manage to get a good start and push on they should win handy, watched the league game this year and they couldn't push on though didn't look like losing it.

The referee obviously thought the Dall were going to win so made sure of it 8)..................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2013, 11:27:30 AM
Yeah they are def favs for this one. I don't mind us being the underdogs, we have nothing to lose so we will give it a go :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
You were underdogs last year too DR and sure had they not got a soft goal early on it would have been a hammering so I don't think a favourites tag will have much bearing.

Hope to get to this - last year's game was disappointing so hopefully be a better / tighter contest this time.

Won't make the sunday one but would be very surprised if Ballycastle win this one. They seem to have improved but Loughgiel are the form team and it's not like they're an old team and don't have any depth. Be interesting to see how far Ballycastle have come on none the less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
You were underdogs last year too DR and sure had they not got a soft goal early on it would have been a hammering so I don't think a favourites tag will have much bearing.

Hope to get to this - last year's game was disappointing so hopefully be a better / tighter contest this time.

Won't make the sunday one but would be very surprised if Ballycastle win this one. They seem to have improved but Loughgiel are the form team and it's not like they're an old team and don't have any depth. Be interesting to see how far Ballycastle have come on none the less.

Think the weather going to play a big part in these games, if it is a wet week both pitches will be slow and heavy and the games will reflect this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
You were underdogs last year too DR and sure had they not got a soft goal early on it would have been a hammering so I don't think a favourites tag will have much bearing.

Hope to get to this - last year's game was disappointing so hopefully be a better / tighter contest this time.

Won't make the sunday one but would be very surprised if Ballycastle win this one. They seem to have improved but Loughgiel are the form team and it's not like they're an old team and don't have any depth. Be interesting to see how far Ballycastle have come on none the less.

to be fair we played well last year against them on the back drop of losing to them in the league as well that season. i dont put any creed into league results against teams like cdall, lgiel etc. championship hurling is so much different as you all know to well. our game against rossa wasnt exciting but we did all that was needed to win.

cushendall are a cracking team and they have alot of good young players now in hte team along with players like graffiin, mc manus, shane etc they are a good team and one l like watching play.

i still belive a point either way will win this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 16, 2013, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
You were underdogs last year too DR and sure had they not got a soft goal early on it would have been a hammering so I don't think a favourites tag will have much bearing.

Hope to get to this - last year's game was disappointing so hopefully be a better / tighter contest this time.

Won't make the sunday one but would be very surprised if Ballycastle win this one. They seem to have improved but Loughgiel are the form team and it's not like they're an old team and don't have any depth. Be interesting to see how far Ballycastle have come on none the less.
SIE won't be having that sort of chat!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2013, 01:56:22 PM
I wouldn't stay we're the "form team"    What's the story with minor final? Anyone care for a match report?  I was expecting a close encounter.  Jesus that's some scoreline in fairness.   That young mc Cambridge is a cracker!!!  On senior team also I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
The form c'ship team. League and feis cup irrelevant now - 3 years since you were beat in the antrim championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 16, 2013, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
The form c'ship team. League and feis cup irrelevant now - 3 years since you were beat in the antrim championship!

Agreed.  The Town are'nt ready for championship Loughgeil yet.  Don't think we'll "roll over" but a bit worried about which team will turn up. If our lads play to the best they can give the Shams a run for it If Cormac had been fit this year we could of been closer but Loughgeils experience will tell.  No more than 5 in it if our lads turn up.

Never like writing Dunloy off but I fancy Cushendall by a narrow margin.

Shams 4 in a row will be stopped by the Dall or am I just hoping?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
It's Ballycastle's for the taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
as long as they ask nicely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 16, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
Anyone have a link to or the text of what the Clare manager said after the match on Sunday?

Heard he called it straight re Antrim but not the specifics!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2013, 11:37:23 PM
"From Antrim's perspective I think their players probably deserved better. If they had access to the same resources, the same expertise that our guys have I think it would be a different story. I hope the Antrim County Board will provide them with that reward because they deserve it.

"Technically we saw it against Wexford that they are excellent hurlers, but our guys have played at a level of competition that they only aspire to and it just creates too much of a gap. But I think from Antrim's perspective the hurling landscape is levelling out."

Donal Maloney
Clare U21 manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 16, 2013, 11:53:09 PM
Fair play to him.  100% right. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 17, 2013, 12:09:27 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2013, 11:37:23 PM
"From Antrim's perspective I think their players probably deserved better. If they had access to the same resources, the same expertise that our guys have I think it would be a different story. I hope the Antrim County Board will provide them with that reward because they deserve it.

"Technically we saw it against Wexford that they are excellent hurlers, but our guys have played at a level of competition that they only aspire to and it just creates too much of a gap. But I think from Antrim's perspective the hurling landscape is levelling out."

Donal Maloney
Clare U21 manager.

Cheers for this.

Not sure what he means re levelling out? but otherwise spot on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2013, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2013, 11:37:23 PM
"From Antrim's perspective I think their players probably deserved better. If they had access to the same resources, the same expertise that our guys have I think it would be a different story. I hope the Antrim County Board will provide them with that reward because they deserve it.

"Technically we saw it against Wexford that they are excellent hurlers, but our guys have played at a level of competition that they only aspire to and it just creates too much of a gap. But I think from Antrim's perspective the hurling landscape is levelling out."

Donal Maloney
Clare U21 manager.

He also said in the same interview that after they beat Waterford in Walsh park everything opened up for them and they weren't tested thereafter, that includes Tipp and Galway.

There's no shame in the defeat Antrim took as this is an exceptional bunch of U-21 hurlers and hopefully they'll bear that out at senior level if not this year, in the coming years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2013, 10:30:04 AM
In all likelyhood its impossible that we will ever have the personnel needed to develop a culture and structures similar to what Clare have at the minute.

You'd need all the planets aligned so that
You need serious financial commitment to such a programme
You need clubs and their supporters `buying` into this programme
You need 20 people at a guess involved in coaching all the agegroups week in week out
You need year in year out commitment from every stakeholder involved

We can hope all we want but hope isn't really gonna change anything is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 17, 2013, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2013, 10:30:04 AM
In all likelyhood its impossible that we will ever have the personnel needed to develop a culture and structures similar to what Clare have at the minute.

You'd need all the planets aligned so that

  • You need a figurehead to inspire the kids and parents to part of a long term programme
    You need enough kids and parents prepared to sacrifice travelling to train
You need serious financial commitment to such a programme
You need clubs and their supporters `buying` into this programme
You need 20 people at a guess involved in coaching all the agegroups week in week out
You need year in year out commitment from every stakeholder involved

We can hope all we want but hope isn't really gonna change anything is it?

Skull, don't (can't) disagree with any of the above. But what is the alternative to at least trying to emulate (as best we can) what happens in Clare etc??

I know from your comments in the past that you have issues with collective county training at the expense of club training/playing, but if there isn't the level of application/skill/coaching available at club level ( or, perhaps more accurately, across a wider spread of clubs) is there any alternative to central training. If there isn't the amount of coaches spread across the county, isn't it better that a few dedicated and able coaches, together with groups of dedicated kids and parents, do for central training??

We also have to deal with our relative isolation vis-à-vis the main hurling world and how best to address it. Is it better (and more realistic) for a group of players to be identified as "elite" at an early age and then exposed as much as possible to games against the stronger counties (which, in reality, means frequent trips south) or to try and raise standards across the board. In principle, the latter would be preferable, but again we run into funding/coaching/commitment issues.

I have no particular insight into them but from this board and from twitter etc (I know, I know) a good deal of effort appears to have been made with this years under 14 and the reward was getting through to the semi final of the Tony Forristal and being (I believe) fairly unlucky to lose out in the final 5 minutes (against Clare of all people). This appears to have been the result of work of a few very dedicated coaches and a group of players (and their parents) who bought into the idea.

Surely if we are to progress as a county, it is this age group and the following under 14s that need to be the focus. With all due respect to the current senior set up, it is very unlikely that something will happen to bridge the gap to the elite. But if our under 14s can compete (and win) against the stronger counties over a number of years, players of both sufficient standard and confidence will begin to drift through to the senior ranks.

In relation to funding, as a member of Club Antrim, I find it very frustrating that I have no idea how much money is being raised and how it is being spent. I might be prepared to contribute more if I knew where it was going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
cft21

There can't be an alternative way of doing things unless there's a change in mindset of hundreds of people. A mindset change that would require years of commitment both in time as well as financial. Thats a big ask and is not going to happen. Too many sitting back lamenting at the lack of quality in their clubs or the county (many are doing their lamenting whilst on the golf course or out on a 50 mile bike ride these days...no time to help you see )

Re: Antrim U14s this year (note 3-4 very strong U14 teams this year in Antrim with Div 2 Feile winning Rossa being a good head above the rest), yes there was plenty of development squad training done, but the same was true of the U16's. Difference was that the attendance/commitment between the 2 (also some club politics at play from one club). Will this years group of U14s be any different in 2 years time or will they stick together? Will the parents get fed up taking them? Problem is there's never been the right sort of year in year out continuity. One man decides to step away for a year and "a structure" falls to an arse. We've next to no proper back up. No one queuing up to be the next man to push things on. We've a passion group of hurling men out there and they're doing a super job considering the lack of resource but our structures are fragile.

Its a numbers game in regards to coaches. If you haven't enough coaches within most clubs it a difficult job to find the excess to properly assist development squad work to the degree that Clare do.

Just to many ifs buts and maybes out there for any dreams to get to reality. Keep plugging away with what you have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
cft21

There can't be an alternative way of doing things unless there's a change in mindset of hundreds of people. A mindset change that would require years of commitment both in time as well as financial. Thats a big ask and is not going to happen. Too many sitting back lamenting at the lack of quality in their clubs or the county (many are doing their lamenting whilst on the golf course or out on a 50 mile bike ride these days...no time to help you see )

Re: Antrim U14s this year (note 3-4 very strong U14 teams this year in Antrim with Div 2 Feile winning Rossa being a good head above the rest), yes there was plenty of development squad training done, but the same was true of the U16's. Difference was that the attendance/commitment between the 2 (also some club politics at play from one club). Will this years group of U14s be any different in 2 years time or will they stick together? Will the parents get fed up taking them? Problem is there's never been the right sort of year in year out continuity. One man decides to step away for a year and "a structure" falls to an arse. We've next to no proper back up. No one queuing up to be the next man to push things on. We've a passion group of hurling men out there and they're doing a super job considering the lack of resource but our structures are fragile.

Its a numbers game in regards to coaches. If you haven't enough coaches within most clubs it a difficult job to find the excess to properly assist development squad work to the degree that Clare do.

Just to many ifs buts and maybes out there for any dreams to get to reality. Keep plugging away with what you have.

You are right to a degree skull, while still 'doing my bit' at the club I've come away from the coaching managing side of things, maybe recharging the batteries I suppose, Having 2 girls and my big lad not interested in playing anymore it means at juvenile level I've less of a pull to be at the club more often. I've promised to get back into it with my cousin at some point and try and get a big team of parents helpers and coaches to run with a set of kids. But that's the way it goes, as you say cycling running and golf can be what a lot of our ex senior players are doing and committing to, that will always happen.

Hard to get people to buy in and stay at it, it needs to be from under 8 through to senior in my opinion with new bunch of people with the other teams coming through. We seem to have a good bunch and then it slides for a few years ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 17, 2013, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2013, 12:34:25 PM
cft21

There can't be an alternative way of doing things unless there's a change in mindset of hundreds of people. A mindset change that would require years of commitment both in time as well as financial. Thats a big ask and is not going to happen. Too many sitting back lamenting at the lack of quality in their clubs or the county (many are doing their lamenting whilst on the golf course or out on a 50 mile bike ride these days...no time to help you see )

Re: Antrim U14s this year (note 3-4 very strong U14 teams this year in Antrim with Div 2 Feile winning Rossa being a good head above the rest), yes there was plenty of development squad training done, but the same was true of the U16's. Difference was that the attendance/commitment between the 2 (also some club politics at play from one club). Will this years group of U14s be any different in 2 years time or will they stick together? Will the parents get fed up taking them? Problem is there's never been the right sort of year in year out continuity. One man decides to step away for a year and "a structure" falls to an arse. We've next to no proper back up. No one queuing up to be the next man to push things on. We've a passion group of hurling men out there and they're doing a super job considering the lack of resource but our structures are fragile.

Its a numbers game in regards to coaches. If you haven't enough coaches within most clubs it a difficult job to find the excess to properly assist development squad work to the degree that Clare do.

Just to many ifs buts and maybes out there for any dreams to get to reality. Keep plugging away with what you have.

Again, Skull, I cant disagree with any of what you are saying.

I live outside the county and have (by dint of family connections) a reasonable idea of what goes on at underage in a couple of the very strong counties. There is no comparison whatsoever with the situation in Antrim. Hurling is literally the lifeblood in those counties - it permeates absolutely everything. Antrim, on the other hand, by reason of history, geography and demographics, is literally in a very different place.

But given that, it seems to me that the only way forward is to go down the "elite" line whereby small amounts of resources (players and coaches) can be concentrated and worked on as best as possible.

I agree entirely that the present structure is very fragile and all it takes is for one or two people to take a year off and there is nobody to step into their shoes. But what else can we do but that? The alternative is to simply give up.

Changing the mindset is a bit of a chicken and egg situation - people wont buy into it without there being some prospect of "success" (whatever that is) but success cant be achieved without people buying in.

In addition to being talented, the parents of this year's under 14s clearly bought into the thing. Will both those kids and parents continue to do so going forward? Who knows, but all that can be done is to make it as attractive and easy as possible for them to do so. How do you do that? I'm no expert, but it would seem organisation and communication are key - training sessions at set times and set places and kids and parents being fully informed of when and what is happening.

Again, very easy to type this onto a computer screen, I know  . . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 17, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Great debate / points lads.

So much to pick up on but just one note cft21;

When you say that we don't have the strong resources across all clubs - so concentrate of an 'elite' I think this is flawed.

Firstly, we should never create an 'elite'. And I don't say this in some wishy-washy ideological way - what I eman is that the small group might be the best hurlers at U12 but its unlikely by minor it'd be the same guys let alone senior. Therefore its a waste to plough everything into this selective group.
After all this seems to be the practice to date.

For me the emphasis should be on tackling the root cause - if we dont have the strong resources at club level - then get them there!
Only through a strong and vibrant club scene will we progress at county level - cart before the horse and all that. But its true!
I mean honestly - does anyone think we can create a group of 20 hurlers just on their own? ofcourse not - they need to be created from a strong & competitive environment that pushes them on - not from endless nights in their own company training to infinity!

Less resources on pie in the sky projects like Dunsilly - more resources to clubs on the ground. Be it time, money, manpower - thats the only place that it'll produce sustainable results!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 17, 2013, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Great debate / points lads.

So much to pick up on but just one note cft21;

When you say that we don't have the strong resources across all clubs - so concentrate of an 'elite' I think this is flawed.

Firstly, we should never create an 'elite'. And I don't say this in some wishy-washy ideological way - what I eman is that the small group might be the best hurlers at U12 but its unlikely by minor it'd be the same guys let alone senior. Therefore its a waste to plough everything into this selective group.
After all this seems to be the practice to date.

For me the emphasis should be on tackling the root cause - if we dont have the strong resources at club level - then get them there!
Only through a strong and vibrant club scene will we progress at county level - cart before the horse and all that. But its true!
I mean honestly - does anyone think we can create a group of 20 hurlers just on their own? ofcourse not - they need to be created from a strong & competitive environment that pushes them on - not from endless nights in their own company training to infinity!

Less resources on pie in the sky projects like Dunsilly - more resources to clubs on the ground. Be it time, money, manpower - thats the only place that it'll produce sustainable results!

Btdtgtt ,

Your solution is the ideal one for when there is a multitude of players and coaches (plus finance) across the county. I just don't see that happening any time soon. We have very limited resources in every sense - playing population, coaching, finances. Do we spread what we have thinly across the entire county or do we concentrate it where it can be best used (I appreciate that is a somewhat loaded phrase)?

The bigger clubs (e.g. Ballycastle/Cushendall/Loughgiel/Dunloy/Johnnies/Rossa) appear to be self-sustaining - its the next tier that runs into problems - a combination of (lack of) numbers and (lack of) interest.

The particular benefit of development squads is that they can identify and bring on prospect outside of the big 6. Where, for example, did Conor McCann come from (Creggan, I know, but you get the point I am making)? In other counties, players from weaker/unfashionable/football clubs can get picked up by the school system, but we do not have anything comparable in that regard in Antrim

Of course you are correct that there will be a huge drop-out rate and the "elite" at under 12s will not necessarily be the County Senior team in 10 years time. This is a long term process and surely the goal is to end up with a competitive minor team and a few players drifting through to senior every couple of years. Furthermore, those picked at under 12 are necessarily forming part of the squad at under 16 - panels have to be subject to constant review and revision.

As for creating this out "of endless nights in their own company training to infinity", I agree entirely, there has to be a combination of training sessions and matches against superior opposition and the reality of that means frequent trips down the M1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 17, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 17, 2013, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Great debate / points lads.

So much to pick up on but just one note cft21;

When you say that we don't have the strong resources across all clubs - so concentrate of an 'elite' I think this is flawed.

Firstly, we should never create an 'elite'. And I don't say this in some wishy-washy ideological way - what I eman is that the small group might be the best hurlers at U12 but its unlikely by minor it'd be the same guys let alone senior. Therefore its a waste to plough everything into this selective group.
After all this seems to be the practice to date.

For me the emphasis should be on tackling the root cause - if we dont have the strong resources at club level - then get them there!
Only through a strong and vibrant club scene will we progress at county level - cart before the horse and all that. But its true!
I mean honestly - does anyone think we can create a group of 20 hurlers just on their own? ofcourse not - they need to be created from a strong & competitive environment that pushes them on - not from endless nights in their own company training to infinity!

Less resources on pie in the sky projects like Dunsilly - more resources to clubs on the ground. Be it time, money, manpower - thats the only place that it'll produce sustainable results!

Btdtgtt ,

Your solution is the ideal one for when there is a multitude of players and coaches (plus finance) across the county. I just don't see that happening any time soon. We have very limited resources in every sense - playing population, coaching, finances. Do we spread what we have thinly across the entire county or do we concentrate it where it can be best used (I appreciate that is a somewhat loaded phrase)?

The bigger clubs (e.g. Ballycastle/Cushendall/Loughgiel/Dunloy/Johnnies/Rossa) appear to be self-sustaining - its the next tier that runs into problems - a combination of (lack of) numbers and (lack of) interest.

The particular benefit of development squads is that they can identify and bring on prospect outside of the big 6. Where, for example, did Conor McCann come from (Creggan, I know, but you get the point I am making)? In other counties, players from weaker/unfashionable/football clubs can get picked up by the school system, but we do not have anything comparable in that regard in Antrim

Yes - I see your point.
Maybe instead of having an 'elite' development group we could leave those players in the stronger clubs to continue to develop and concentrate resources in the areas you mention such as Creggan? I agree also - our strong clubs can compete in the south but once we step outside that we fall away quicker. Maybe focussing on 'developing' areas rather than 'elite' might yield results?

Of course you are correct that there will be a huge drop-out rate and the "elite" at under 12s will not necessarily be the County Senior team in 10 years time. This is a long term process and surely the goal is to end up with a competitive minor team and a few players drifting through to senior every couple of years. Furthermore, those picked at under 12 are necessarily forming part of the squad at under 16 - panels have to be subject to constant review and revision.

As for creating this out "of endless nights in their own company training to infinity", I agree entirely, there has to be a combination of training sessions and matches against superior opposition and the reality of that means frequent trips down the M1.

Yes all true - I think sometimes our county teams are overtrained and lose the competitveness of games. Thats why we hear the old "as skillfull as anyone in the south" and yet we get stuffed. Like I say - a strong club scene will benefit not only those on the county squad but will encourage others who slip under the radar to come through and gives us strength outside the 'elite' to compete across the board. I maintain that the U21s who beat Wexford did so on the back of being preparing for club championship - we should note this and learn from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

That would also make sense in terms of the conditions, get a wet day with a match on before it and the pitch is going to be cut into ribbons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
A fair point DR - I like the way hurling people think of that but our blessed fixture makers don't!

Although be careful NAG1 - Aghohill & Carey might find it disrespectful that they are asked to play on the cut-up pitch!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

That would also make sense in terms of the conditions, get a wet day with a match on before it and the pitch is going to be cut into ribbons.

Why would it make sense? Why should any of the teams have to play on a pitch "cut into ribbons" - it is the Intermediate Final which deverves as much respect as the Senior semi-final. 

Why does it have to be a double header?

What was the Loughgiel pitch like after the MHC double header on Sunday?

Two games again this weekend in Loughgiel seems a bit ambitious - it would be better splitting the games at times & venues that you can attend both games.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

That would also make sense in terms of the conditions, get a wet day with a match on before it and the pitch is going to be cut into ribbons.

Why would it make sense? Why should any of the teams have to play on a pitch "cut into ribbons" - it is the Intermediate Final which deverves as much respect as the Senior semi-final. 

Why does it have to be a double header?

What was the Loughgiel pitch like after the MHC double header on Sunday?

Two games again this weekend in Loughgiel seems a bit ambitious - it would be better splitting the games at times & venues that you can attend both games.

Not saying anyone should have to play on a cut up pitch, but if im picking between which game should get first go at a decent pitch, by pure logic it is the Senior game. Take it up with the fixture makers who added the IHF to the bill after the fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2013, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

That would also make sense in terms of the conditions, get a wet day with a match on before it and the pitch is going to be cut into ribbons.

Why would it make sense? Why should any of the teams have to play on a pitch "cut into ribbons" - it is the Intermediate Final which deverves as much respect as the Senior semi-final. 

Why does it have to be a double header?

What was the Loughgiel pitch like after the MHC double header on Sunday?

Two games again this weekend in Loughgiel seems a bit ambitious - it would be better splitting the games at times & venues that you can attend both games.

Not saying anyone should have to play on a cut up pitch, but if im picking between which game should get first go at a decent pitch, by pure logic it is the Senior game. Take it up with the fixture makers who added the IHF to the bill after the fact.

I personally think it's nuts to play it before the game and it should be a stand alone fixture or even done on the day of the Junior final. I didn't realise it was fixed for this weekend until I seen this post.

I've just checked my phone hirty so I can talk about it :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 18, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

Finals go to a replay, not extra time in the initial game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: aontroim on September 18, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
Dunloy v cdall is now moved to 4.15 to allow for the intermediate final to be played before hand between ahoghill and carey.

But both clubs arnt happy because if there's a straw that game would go to extra time, then a presentation etc meaning both senior teams would be delayed etc.

Apparently both clubs want our game to be first and then let that fonal be played after it.

Finals go to a replay, not extra time in the initial game.

Yeah that's true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 18, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
Has any date been set for the senior final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2013, 12:57:51 PM
apparently this will go to extra time. the calender is so tight now the ulster championship fixtures are set in stone for the intermediate

its madness as per usual. all our county see's here is ££££££££££ for the double header. who cares about the clubs!

if there is a winner then the presentation is on the pitch in front of the changing rooms, players and supporters around etc. the cdall and dunloys will be trying to get throught all that to do warm ups. they will tear the pitch up for us, or we will do it to them etc etc. its unfair on people. also we have supporters wanting to attend the camogie semi final in Armoy v Portgleone!!

apparently if we dont agree to it we will be shifted to the sunday for a double header in ballycastle! pricks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2013, 12:58:56 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 18, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
Has any date been set for the senior final?
its still set for the 29th in either loughiel or ballycastle apparently.

if either of the semi finals ends up a draw does it go to a replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Dunloy v C'Dall at 2.45pm now.
Intermediate Final at 4.15pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2013, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Dunloy v C'Dall at 2.45pm now.
Intermediate Final at 4.15pm

Would someone make up their mind??? Ok that's better I'll get up to see the senior game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2013, 03:33:43 PM
Just heard that there now myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Dunloy v C'Dall at 2.45pm now.
Intermediate Final at 4.15pm

Are we not a Hurling county? This smacks to me of getting another match out of the way and off the calendar, before 3pm on Saturday for the semi final of our top or supposed top competition.

Other counties are busy promoting these types of games and we are busy get them out of the way.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 18, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Dunloy v C'Dall at 2.45pm now.
Intermediate Final at 4.15pm

Are we not a Hurling county? This smacks to me of getting another match out of the way and off the calendar, before 3pm on Saturday for the semi final of our top or supposed top competition.

Other counties are busy promoting these types of games and we are busy get them out of the way.

I'd say there's a shortage of Sundays due to the Ulster club championship being scheduled for some time in October, then nada for the eventual winners until february.

I'd say officialdom in Antrim will be praying there's no draws this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2013, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 18, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Dunloy v C'Dall at 2.45pm now.
Intermediate Final at 4.15pm

Are we not a Hurling county? This smacks to me of getting another match out of the way and off the calendar, before 3pm on Saturday for the semi final of our top or supposed top competition.

Other counties are busy promoting these types of games and we are busy get them out of the way.

I'd say there's a shortage of Sundays due to the Ulster club championship being scheduled for some time in October, then nada for the eventual winners until february.

I'd say officialdom in Antrim will be praying there's no draws this weekend.

Which in fairness is not Antrim fault, Ulster council at fault for rushing through a hurling programme when the Ulster winner won't be playing their semi final till Feb!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2013, 05:12:12 PM
What about this sunday?

Or wait till the junior final and double header?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
Fixture chaos in Antrim again? Who would have thought!

Especially after we've been lecturing Ireland about the U21 fixture.
But sure we'll still get the big joe Edwards routine!

Mind you - perhaps if the county season wasnt so stretched out there would be more time for the majority of Gaels.

Hope it all works out for the clubs involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mario on September 18, 2013, 09:45:09 PM
Lads, putting on a wee accumulator on some championship games at the weekend. I see Ballycastle are 10/3 with paddypower, do they have a chance with all these u21 hurlers or would I be better burning my money?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2013, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: Mario on September 18, 2013, 09:45:09 PM
Lads, putting on a wee accumulator on some championship games at the weekend. I see Ballycastle are 10/3 with paddypower, do they have a chance with all these u21 hurlers or would I be better burning my money?

Save it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2013, 11:59:09 PM
You know something don't you?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
i take it paddy power didnt know that the town beat lgiel in the feis cup this year! them odds should be lower than that! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
So if the semi final is a draw at full time .........?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 19, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
i take it paddy power didnt know that the town beat lgiel in the feis cup this year! them odds should be lower than that! ;)

maybe PP think the Shams cahnce of 4 in a row will get them over that. Not like our Loughgeil friends to be so quiet about that 4 timer. the Dall or Dunloy will be a bigger hurdle than the Town. They have too much experience for our boys.  Keep it close this year and mabe we'll get them next time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
So if the semi final is a draw at full time .........?

All senior games go to a replay as far as I know, the junior and intermediate games up to the final are extra time, the finals have been (unless changed) go to a replay though it may have changed due to the Ulster council, ask the Antrim discussion board sure......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2013, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 19, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
i take it paddy power didnt know that the town beat lgiel in the feis cup this year! them odds should be lower than that! ;)

maybe PP think the Shams cahnce of 4 in a row will get them over that. Not like our Loughgeil friends to be so quiet about that 4 timer. the Dall or Dunloy will be a bigger hurdle than the Town. They have too much experience for our boys.  Keep it close this year and mabe we'll get them next time.
:) were the same, no one gives us a chance, maybe we will get 'lucky'' and get into the final  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
So if the semi final is a draw at full time .........?

All senior games go to a replay as far as I know, the junior and intermediate games up to the final are extra time, the finals have been (unless changed) go to a replay though it may have changed due to the Ulster council, ask the Antrim discussion board sure......
yeah that was why dunloy and cushendall wanted to go first as if that final went to a draw then it went into extra time and would have ballsed everything up for the two teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 19, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
So if the semi final is a draw at full time .........?

All senior games go to a replay as far as I know, the junior and intermediate games up to the final are extra time, the finals have been (unless changed) go to a replay though it may have changed due to the Ulster council, ask the Antrim discussion board sure......
yeah that was why dunloy and cushendall wanted to go first as if that final went to a draw then it went into extra time and would have ballsed everything up for the two teams.

The IHC Final would not have gone to extra time. Simple case of the SHC clubs wanting the pitch in the best condition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 19, 2013, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2013, 11:59:09 PM
You know something don't you?  ;D

course he does. Hirty Darry might say his clubmate has told him the winner  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2013, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 19, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
So if the semi final is a draw at full time .........?

All senior games go to a replay as far as I know, the junior and intermediate games up to the final are extra time, the finals have been (unless changed) go to a replay though it may have changed due to the Ulster council, ask the Antrim discussion board sure......
yeah that was why dunloy and cushendall wanted to go first as if that final went to a draw then it went into extra time and would have ballsed everything up for the two teams.

The IHC Final would not have gone to extra time. Simple case of the SHC clubs wanting the pitch in the best condition.
That's what the club was told and cushendall weren't happy at that either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 19, 2013, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2013, 11:59:09 PM
You know something don't you?  ;D

course he does. Hirty Darry might say his clubmate has told him the winner  :o

Only one winner here............  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 19, 2013, 08:49:47 PM
I agree MR2 that yes the shamrocks are favourites as the three in a row champions should be but what is it that makes you so certain that it will be nothing but a comprehensive Loughgiel victory?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 19, 2013, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 19, 2013, 08:49:47 PM
I agree MR2 that yes the shamrocks are favourites as the three in a row champions should be but what is it that makes you so certain that it will be nothing but a comprehensive Loughgiel victory?
Better Hurlers???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2013, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 19, 2013, 08:49:47 PM
I agree MR2 that yes the shamrocks are favourites as the three in a row champions should be but what is it that makes you so certain that it will be nothing but a comprehensive Loughgiel victory?

I have seen Loughgiel this year a few times I've seen Ballycastle also, I've seen Ballycastle promise a lot and I see Loughgiel deliver. I'm basing it on that, Not rocket science I know but It's my opinion (no referees judgement will changed with this statement :P)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 19, 2013, 09:45:11 PM
Better hurlers or more experienced?I would go with the latter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
All gone quiet, is this the long pause before the battle  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2013, 03:15:38 PM
Can any of the Dunloy contingent confirm if Sean Dowds is back from America and avilable for the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2013, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
All gone quiet, is this the long pause before the battle  ;)

Quiet before the storm .....

Cushendall to win convincingly

Loughgiel to come through a tough game narrowly ....

Clooney to take the I.H.C

Cushendun & Creggan in the J.H.C

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
i take it paddy power didnt know that the town beat lgiel in the feis cup this year! them odds should be lower than that! ;)
those red jerseys do something, according to another poster.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
Dunloy to win by 3 or more. I'm staying clear of predicting our game. I don't like tipping the opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
Dunloy to win by 3 or more. I'm staying clear of predicting our game. I don't like tipping the opposition.

#StepTogether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 20, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
i take it paddy power didnt know that the town beat lgiel in the feis cup this year! them odds should be lower than that! ;)
those red jerseys do something, according to another poster.  ;)

so will they roll over or raise there game?

Mon the Town!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on September 20, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
Dunloy to win by 3 or more. I'm staying clear of predicting our game. I don't like tipping the opposition.

#StepTogether

#believe

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
Dunloy to win by 3 or more. I'm staying clear of predicting our game. I don't like tipping the opposition.

(http://bodyloverevolution.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/bored.jpg)

Even the young shams are getting tired of your smug sarcasm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 07:32:07 PM
There's nothing sarcastic about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 20, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
SIE your arrogance is up there with Ali and Mayweather!You are so confident of a Loughgiel victory and I wont lie if we beat you lot on Sunday it will be hard not to say to MR2 and yourself I told you so.Not saying we are favourites but I think this will be a much tighter game than many on here predict
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 20, 2013, 08:28:15 PM
No your lack off respect for opponents simply reflects poorly.Loughgiel may be going for four in a row but they do not have a god given right to win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 20, 2013, 08:42:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.

SIE no call for that. I want the Town to win but I don't think wantin a team "stuffed" is very sporting. It sort of puts the other team down. 4 teams playin tomorrow and sunday in senior championship and they all work hard and train hard so that we can watch them. Wanting our own team to win does'nt mean that the other team has to be mocked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:46:44 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 20, 2013, 08:28:15 PM
No your lack off respect for opponents simply reflects poorly.Loughgiel may be going for four in a row but they do not have a god given right to win
lack of respect? I just can't win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.

Who are you kidding? Talking your team down before a big game is all this is and you've been at it for a month now. There's no evidence that Loughgiel aren't the favorites to win the championship this year. Ballycastle are 4th in line. Shocks can and do happen but you've zero reason to think loughgiel shouldn't win tomorrows game handy (championship being championship). Ballycastle are no world beaters 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2013, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.

Who are you kidding? Talking your team down before a big game is all this is and you've been at it for a month now. There's no evidence that Loughgiel aren't the favorites to win the championship this year. Ballycastle are 4th in line. Shocks can and do happen but you've zero reason to think loughgiel shouldn't win tomorrows game handy (championship being championship). Ballycastle are no world beaters

Nothing is won on here ffs, no one who is actually playing on Sat Or Sunday will worry about what some ex players/bar flies or non members think so wind your bloody necks in. I'm sure Dunloy lads and Ballycastle lads think they have a chance on Sunday I don't and will plum for the favs.

Running your teams chances down means fcuk all,, saying that and in all honesty  think Cargin will put up a better performance this year      and I predict it will be a low scoring game with s winning by a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 21, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Some opinions on here, SIE thinks Ballycastle are the greatest team in the country and Skull thinks they are the worst  :P

As Ballycastle's results this year suggest they are still inconsistent but the signs are they are getting there. As long as they turn up and perform tomorrow I will be happy and we will take it from there. I don't believe Loughgiel have shown the level of play this year that brought them to the 3 in a row, if they do tomorrow Ballycastle are in trouble, if they don't theres a chance to beat them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 08:29:01 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 21, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Some opinions on here, SIE thinks Ballycastle are the greatest team in the country and Skull thinks they are the worst  :P

As Ballycastle's results this year suggest they are still inconsistent but the signs are they are getting there. As long as they turn up and perform tomorrow I will be happy and we will take it from there. I don't believe Loughgiel have shown the level of play this year that brought them to the 3 in a row, if they do tomorrow Ballycastle are in trouble, if they don't theres a chance to beat them.
I think loughgiel have been fairly lacklustre this year. Perhaps Ballycastle have been hit and miss but there's no doubting they've raised their game against us. That's what I'm basing it on. Nothing more. People can take from it what they will. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Antrim Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final
Cushendall 1-08  Dunloy 1-05

Half Time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 03:45:57 PM
Antrim Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final
Cushendall 1-12  Dunloy 1-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 03:54:34 PM
Antrim Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final
Cushendall 1-13  Dunloy 2-07

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
2 In it 8 mins to go!! Dunloy playing the better hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
1-18 to 2-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
1-18 to 2-9

Game over, Good price Cushendall were to, what was your take on the game SIE? I was getting updates on it, decent game? Dunloy had a good patch in second half but couldn't push on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
1-18 to 2-9

Game over, Good price Cushendall were to, what was your take on the game SIE? I was getting updates on it, decent game? Dunloy had a good patch in second half but couldn't push on?

8/13?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 21, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
1-18 to 2-9

Game over, Good price Cushendall were to, what was your take on the game SIE? I was getting updates on it, decent game? Dunloy had a good patch in second half but couldn't push on?

8/13?!

Aye that's decent and when they win even better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2013, 05:31:57 PM
Any IHC scores?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 21, 2013, 06:27:16 PM
Gaeil Chluana   3-14   2-12   Cathaoir an Rí
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 21, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
3 words for skinny cunning. GUTLESS, SPINELESS,COWARD
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 21, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 21, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
3 words for skinny cunning. GUTLESS, SPINELESS,COWARD
+1. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whereshegoinref on September 21, 2013, 06:48:18 PM
Well done to the Clooney boys, brilliant achievement winning their first IHC. Another Ulster adventure awaits! Hopefully Casements can follow suit in the IFC in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 21, 2013, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 21, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
3 words for skinny cunning. GUTLESS, SPINELESS,COWARD

Do you feel better now that is off your chest ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
The better team won. That's not to say if we'd taken our goal chances that we couldn't have caused an upset. 10 out of 10 for effort. Thought we fought brilliantly through out but just weren't able to take our scores when it counted. Very physical first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 21, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
3 words for skinny cunning. GUTLESS, SPINELESS,COWARD

Unacceptable comment

Two teams trying to win, never any bad blood between the teams, better team got the result!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2013, 07:47:27 PM
I agree with skull. The better team on the day won out in the end. But if Dunloy could have taken that glaring goal chance it might have turned out differently. I thought Cushendall finished strongly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
Cushendall good value for their win. Thought the ref was harsh against Dunloy quite a few times, especially against Nigel Elliot.

He tried to let the game flow but if the player is fouled you have to blow it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Hearing Hippy is back for tomorrow. Shaping up to be a big game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2013, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2013, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
All gone quiet, is this the long pause before the battle  ;)

Quiet before the storm .....

Cushendall to win convincingly

Loughgiel to come through a tough game narrowly ....

Clooney to take the I.H.C

Cushendun & Creggan in the J.H.C

Another few correct results ...

The 7/2 Cushendall NAP I gave you all over a week ago looking tastier now!

All depends what Loughgiel team turns up tomorrow.

If its the All Ireland championship form, Ballycastle will be blown away.

They haven't demonstrated anything near this form which will be a worry for them, as I have said before the signs suggest a tight encounter going on recent displays.

Shamrocks should prevail only to fall short against the Dall! (Who will raise their game for the final!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 21, 2013, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Hearing Hippy is back for tomorrow. Shaping up to be a big game.

where da fcuk you hear that? Did Hippy play any game at all this year? Be mad to stick him on in a championship semi final. Br great to see him back but no way he could just play against Loughgeil after being out so long a time.

Dall were better over all today. Dunloy got a bit of a run in the second half and 5 points a bit harsh on them but the Dall took the scores when they needed them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
Heard Hippy would be there in some form, sub maybe??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on September 21, 2013, 11:20:14 PM
He was sub against glenarriffe or did folks have the blinkers on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 21, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
is the final on next sunday ??????????  for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
Heard Hippy would be there in some form, sub maybe??
I hardly think Loughgiel are losing much sleep tonight over this revelation. Shamrocks by at least 3 to be beaten by Dall in final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
Heard Hippy would be there in some form, sub maybe??
I hardly think Loughgiel are losing much sleep tonight over this revelation. Shamrocks by at least 3 to be beaten by Dall in final.

Maybe not, but he'd be better on the team than not, listen though if he plays and has a recurrence of the injury that could end up hurting him in the long run!! Hope not he's a class act and hopefully has plenty years left to play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 22, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
Heard Hippy would be there in some form, sub maybe??
I hardly think Loughgiel are losing much sleep tonight over this revelation. Shamrocks by at least 3 to be beaten by Dall in final.

Maybe not, but he'd be better on the team than not, listen though if he plays and has a recurrence of the injury that could end up hurting him in the long run!! Hope not he's a class act and hopefully has plenty years left to play

I never seen that he was on the bench v Glenarriff but your right MR2. Would rather lose today without him than win and lose him for another year or maybe more. this team has time on it's side.

Still up the Black and Amber!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: whereshegoinref on September 21, 2013, 06:48:18 PM
Well done to the Clooney boys, brilliant achievement winning their first IHC. Another Ulster adventure awaits! Hopefully Casements can follow suit in the IFC in a couple of weeks.

Yes big well done to Clooney Gaels, to get to where they are in such a small amount of years says a lot about them, PJ may be the best player they have but they have a big team that works really hard. Have played against them a few time over the years and refereed them also.

I home they go on and get back to Croke Park, they were unfortunate at Junior level but with a bit of hard work could win Ulster.

They'll be playing Senior Championship next year!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 21, 2013, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Hearing Hippy is back for tomorrow. Shaping up to be a big game.

where da fcuk you hear that? Did Hippy play any game at all this year? Be mad to stick him on in a championship semi final. Br great to see him back but no way he could just play against Loughgeil after being out so long a time.

Dall were better over all today. Dunloy got a bit of a run in the second half and 5 points a bit harsh on them but the Dall took the scores when they needed them.

Been told by 2 different people from Ballycastle that there's a good chance he starts. If not definitely comes of the bench.

We'll find out later today I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:17:51 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 21, 2013, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Hearing Hippy is back for tomorrow. Shaping up to be a big game.

where da fcuk you hear that? Did Hippy play any game at all this year? Be mad to stick him on in a championship semi final. Br great to see him back but no way he could just play against Loughgeil after being out so long a time.

Dall were better over all today. Dunloy got a bit of a run in the second half and 5 points a bit harsh on them but the Dall took the scores when they needed them.

Been told by 2 different people from Ballycastle that there's a good chance he starts. If not definitely comes of the bench.

We'll find out later today I suppose.

What damage could he do in fullforward? Big McGarry well capable at fullback for him I'd imagine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
For Ballycastle to win I think they need 2-3 goals. I'd be happy enough that we can hold firm with the lads we have back there. Can see your logic though MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
For Ballycastle to win I think they need 2-3 goals. I'd be happy enough that we can hold firm with the lads we have back there. Can see your logic though MR2.

Puts a different twist to the game. I think Loughgiels point tally will be way to much and will force the town to chase goals, I think it will still be a 5+ win for Loughgiel though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I asked a well connected Ballycastle man yesterday if he would play any part and it was a definite no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 22, 2013, 11:01:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: whereshegoinref on September 21, 2013, 06:48:18 PM
Well done to the Clooney boys, brilliant achievement winning their first IHC. Another Ulster adventure awaits! Hopefully Casements can follow suit in the IFC in a couple of weeks.

Yes big well done to Clooney Gaels, to get to where they are in such a small amount of years says a lot about them, PJ may be the best player they have but they have a big team that works really hard. Have played against them a few time over the years and refereed them also.

I home they go on and get back to Croke Park, they were unfortunate at Junior level but with a bit of hard work could win Ulster.

They'll be playing Senior Championship next year!!!
Ulster IHC is an interesting proposition with Ahoghill, Eoghan Rua, Bredagh, Cuchullains Armagh etc. Armagh to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I asked a well connected Ballycastle man yesterday if he would play any part and it was a definite no.

Id have thought it be difficult to play. But would he play final??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I asked a well connected Ballycastle man yesterday if he would play any part and it was a definite no.

Id have thought it be difficult to play. But would he play final??
Oh yeah....forgot he mentioned something bout that  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 11:46:52 AM
What's the criteria for the A & B grades in the minor championship? Just wondering why Dunloy were in the B grade?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I presume after watching us play you reckon we should've been in A but underhandidly entered B to guarantee silverware.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I presume after watching us play you reckon we should've been in A but underhandidly entered B to guarantee silverware.

I've not seen them play, long time away from home, just wondered why they were in B. Is it not better for their standard of play to be in A?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 03:28:03 PM

Castle not playing well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 22, 2013, 03:39:42 PM
what was the final score?

Anywhere to read mach reports for both semi's ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle

Was it in any doubt ffs? I backed them minus 5 evens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle
aye. Thank jaysus I'm not one of these boys that bets against their own team.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 22, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
So Loughgiel aren't finished then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle
aye. Thank jaysus I'm not one of these boys that bets against their own team.  ;)

You'd been mad not to have taken that price today ffs, waiting on portumna tonight, St Thomas's Loughrea both win today in Galway Loughlin gaels and a team I think should be doing better is Ballyboden also won
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 22, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 22, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
So Loughgiel aren't finished then
no they are done, the dall are miles better ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 22, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Not the Dall on yesterday's showing.Poor fare indeed. Shams only ticking over all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
So, the final to be played next Sunday in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 05:32:15 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 22, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
Not the Dall on yesterday's showing.Poor fare indeed. Shams only ticking over all year.

Aye I think Loughgiel should walk it now, seeing they got over their banana skin lol ( I'd nothing to do with the outcome of the game :-X)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
Great win. Stepped up big time and blew Ballycastle away.

Odhran McFadden, Winker, Joey, Eddie, Skinner & Duck all superb.

It'll be a much tougher game next week, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I presume after watching us play you reckon we should've been in A but underhandidly entered B to guarantee silverware.

I've not seen them play, long time away from home, just wondered why they were in B. Is it not better for their standard of play to be in A?

This team have played B from U12 and never won a trophy until last Sunday. Poor numbers left us playing a really young physically weak team. Last week we had 9 under 16s starting and 2 more coming off the bench. A well deserved win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 22, 2013, 07:00:07 PM
Really disappointed in the performance today.complete capitulation led by a keeper who blew the gasket.Still believe we are good enough to win a championship but bottled it today. Fair play to Loughgiel they did the business

Out of interest should Watson have joined McGarry on the sidelines?throwing a players hurl into the tree?MR2 whats in the rulebook about that?lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I presume after watching us play you reckon we should've been in A but underhandidly entered B to guarantee silverware.

I've not seen them play, long time away from home, just wondered why they were in B. Is it not better for their standard of play to be in A?

This team have played B from U12 and never won a trophy until last Sunday. Poor numbers left us playing a really young physically weak team. Last week we had 9 under 16s starting and 2 more coming off the bench. A well deserved win.

Thanks for the reply. Does this mean potentially lean times for Dunloy in a few years, or are there good teams at u16, u14, etc,.?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2013, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 22, 2013, 07:00:07 PM
Really disappointed in the performance today.complete capitulation led by a keeper who blew the gasket.Still believe we are good enough to win a championship but bottled it today. Fair play to Loughgiel they did the business

Out of interest should Watson have joined McGarry on the sidelines?throwing a players hurl into the tree?MR2 whats in the rulebook about that?lol

If someone fires a stick 20 yards at you I think he was entitled to throw it wherever he wanted!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2013, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle
aye. Thank jaysus I'm not one of these boys that bets against their own team.  ;)

You'd been mad not to have taken that price today ffs, waiting on portumna tonight, St Thomas's Loughrea both win today in Galway Loughlin gaels and a team I think should be doing better is Ballyboden also won

Portumna won by an injury time point, sets up a semi final game with the All Ireland Champions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 22, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
yeah Watson was at a few high jinks but actually think he showed a higher level of maturity today and certainly did not deserve any walk to the side lines.  he was able to wind the town boys up (little Michael also) and not lose his cool.  however did think his free taking needs a little fine tuning

thought joey scullion had a fine performance.  Benny mcgarry very good coming of the bench as did martin scullion

DD showed mcgarry the level he needs to get too  Have to also say that he is susceptible to a little mistake on the big days

so a final in ballycastle next weekend.  can't wait
still reckon the shams will have to go up a few gears to beat the dall but they are still the team that have those gears though their half back line is not as dominating as it should be nor midfield which are two big lines

should be super to watch

sat final and sunday final
going to be busy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 22, 2013, 07:00:07 PM
Really disappointed in the performance today.complete capitulation led by a keeper who blew the gasket.Still believe we are good enough to win a championship but bottled it today. Fair play to Loughgiel they did the business

Out of interest should Watson have joined McGarry on the sidelines?throwing a players hurl into the tree?MR2 whats in the rulebook about that?lol

It's a yellow card, if he intends to throw it at a player/official red card
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 07:38:13 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2013, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
2-20 1-10 as per seamroga in exile on twitter, he who tipped ballycastle
aye. Thank jaysus I'm not one of these boys that bets against their own team.  ;)

You'd been mad not to have taken that price today ffs, waiting on portumna tonight, St Thomas's Loughrea both win today in Galway Loughlin gaels and a team I think should be doing better is Ballyboden also won

Portumna won by an injury time point, sets up a semi final game with the All Ireland Champions!

Very lucky but they won't get past this St Thomas's team who I believe can kick on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 22, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
where do you see the portumna report or result ???????/  was on the website and saw other results but they didn't seem to list this game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 22, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
where do you see the portumna report or result ???????/  was on the website and saw other results but they didn't seem to list this game

PP results, One point win 18 to 17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 22, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/st-thomas-galway-win-1095220-Sep2013/ (http://thescore.thejournal.ie/st-thomas-galway-win-1095220-Sep2013/)
Saffron89, short reports at link above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 22, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
cheers lads

tony not sure about your prediction about the Armagh champs.  reckon though there could be a couple of excellent matches, it will be interesting to see where they are fixed for as quite often Casement would have hosted a good few of them

watched ahoghill win well against CArey, they have a few super hurlers and great physicality and fitness levels

the old saying if you have played against them you will have known you were in a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 22, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
ulster plays leinster this year is that correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
It'll hardly matter who the Ulster champions play because according to the experts on here, on other boards and elsewhere in North Antrim, there aren't any decent club teams left down there. Right?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
It'll hardly matter who the Ulster champions play because according to the experts on here, on other boards and elsewhere in North Antrim, there aren't any decent club teams left down there. Right?

OTB, Ballyboden, and Loughlin Gaels, Ballyhale all still there plus the Offlay lads, Birr are in the final against KK. Love this time of year, love it it even more to be involved with it ffs!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
It'll hardly matter who the Ulster champions play because according to the experts on here, on other boards and elsewhere in North Antrim, there aren't any decent club teams left down there. Right?

OTB, Ballyboden, and Loughlin Gaels, Ballyhale all still there plus the Offlay lads, Birr are in the final against KK. Love this time of year, love it it even more to be involved with it ffs!!!
all great clubs. And as always the best one comes through in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
It'll hardly matter who the Ulster champions play because according to the experts on here, on other boards and elsewhere in North Antrim, there aren't any decent club teams left down there. Right?

OTB, Ballyboden, and Loughlin Gaels, Ballyhale all still there plus the Offlay lads, Birr are in the final against KK. Love this time of year, love it it even more to be involved with it ffs!!!
all great clubs. And as always the best one comes through in the end.

You'd like to think so, there hasn't been too many heavy defeats in the semi finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2013, 11:18:12 PM
Sure when antrim beat wexford this year it was wexford were poor and wexford were complacent. Always the way.

Final as expected. Dall would need to improve somewhat from saturday. Defense seems to open up quite easily though dunloy's number 15 usually main reason for that.

Ref no bearing on result in cushendall dunloy but have to say he was very poor. Everything let go from either side. Sometimes felt like he had no whistle at all.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2013, 08:47:41 AM
disappointed after sat, we never played anywhere near what we could. missed too many frees and hit silly wides and they cost us.

lost kevin molloy and chrissy brogan to injury the night before and then lost kevin martin and oran quinn during the game to injury. that didnt help us at all. cushendall took their chances and deserved to win, best of luck to them in the final.

the ref wasnt great for either side, frees missed all over the place. i dont mind letting a game go but when a players fouled you still blow it up. added to that a pair of bungling umpires who couldnt make their minds up and also missed a point for us in the second half!

but fiar play to the dall, tho they will need to play alot better to beat lgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2013, 08:51:31 AM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 22, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2013, 01:22:14 PM
I presume after watching us play you reckon we should've been in A but underhandidly entered B to guarantee silverware.

I've not seen them play, long time away from home, just wondered why they were in B. Is it not better for their standard of play to be in A?

This team have played B from U12 and never won a trophy until last Sunday. Poor numbers left us playing a really young physically weak team. Last week we had 9 under 16s starting and 2 more coming off the bench. A well deserved win.

Thanks for the reply. Does this mean potentially lean times for Dunloy in a few years, or are there good teams at u16, u14, etc,.?

U16 team next year should be strong, that team won the U14 hurling at north antrim and lost to st johns in the county final. we have some pretty good young lads coming through, im confident they should all make the stride to senior as they have a lot of good poeple mentoring them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2013, 08:47:41 AM
disappointed after sat, we never played anywhere near what we could. missed too many frees and hit silly wides and they cost us.

lost kevin molloy and chrissy brogan to injury the night before and then lost kevin martin and oran quinn during the game to injury. that didnt help us at all. cushendall took their chances and deserved to win, best of luck to them in the final.

the ref wasnt great for either side, frees missed all over the place. i dont mind letting a game go but when a players fouled you still blow it up. added to that a pair of bungling umpires who couldnt make their minds up and also missed a point for us in the second half!

but fiar play to the dall, tho they will need to play alot better to beat lgiel.

Yeah It seems Loughgiel have hit a bit of form (They have only lost one match lol) did anyone think different? They are the team to beat and will be big favs come Sunday, they racked up a decent score and by all accounts didn't have to come out of second gear.

Cushendall will need to push on if they get a lead and not allow Loughgiel a chance to get back into the game. Easier said than done of course. I think Loughgiel could well win this one though they haven't been tested at all this year in the championship, could work for you in that you've no injuries and confidence high with big scores taken or work against you with no real pressure put on you during games leading up to final and then a massive shock from an intense charged up Dall team. I think Loughgiel have the experience behind them to get over the line.

Loughgiel have yet to blow teams away in the Antrim final could this be their year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 23, 2013, 10:56:05 AM
Dunloy missed a lot of frees and scorable points. Did the same in final last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
I'm not a bad judge called 18 + pts, as much as I didn't want to see that type of result.

MR2 since you claim you can say what you want and can have an opinion on any hurling game ...

... do you have an opinion on the upcoming Creggan v Con Magee game?

Yes, it was a dreadful game, has the game went that far back at that level?? Some lads couldn't hold the stick the right way, balls were being pucked 15/20 yards not under pressure ffs. Creggan had the better hurlers and to an extent seemed as if they were always going to win but while it was 15 on 15 they couldn't pull away, the McCanns were ok but have seen them hurl better for Antrim (maybe a case of being brought down to a standard)

Creggan lads fielded some nice balls and hand passed the ball of to a runner that was the best part of their play, Glenravel had two decent hurlers who tried their heart strings out, but once the no.6 was sent off for two yellows that was that. Didn't stay for the second game but I'd say Cushendun would have been favs for that one and came through it ok. No Belfast teams in the Junior, Intermediate or senior finals this year!!! Has to be a first I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
Question for the Ballycastle posters.  Do you not think your tactics were a bit strange yesterday?  Why play with only 5 forwards in the first half with a nice breeze at your backs?  After your whirlwind start you only scored 3 points in the next 25 minutes.

Also, I'd say Neal McAuley is your best player but he seems to get quite an easy ticket.  I'd be wanting my best player to mark someone and get the better of them and influence the game from there.  NMA spends his time sweeping in behind the half back line with limited impact on games.  One of his best assets is his catching but he isn't even contesting high balls in his current role.  Strange one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2013, 12:18:03 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 23, 2013, 10:56:05 AM
Dunloy missed a lot of frees and scorable points. Did the same in final last year.
Yeah def cost us overall. Hard to figure that out as we have been scoring well all year. 

Did cushendall miss any all day from frees? I don't think they hit many wides at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2013, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
Question for the Ballycastle posters.  Do you not think your tactics were a bit strange yesterday?  Why play with only 5 forwards in the first half with a nice breeze at your backs?  After your whirlwind start you only scored 3 points in the next 25 minutes.

Also, I'd say Neal McAuley is your best player but he seems to get quite an easy ticket.  I'd be wanting my best player to mark someone and get the better of them and influence the game from there.  NMA spends his time sweeping in behind the half back line with limited impact on games.  One of his best assets is his catching but he isn't even contesting high balls in his current role.  Strange one.

That I don't agree with but the rest yeah. Every game I went to that is always the way of it and other ppl say its the same every game. Why? No one has answered that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
Dunlop realist I know Ballycastle were bad last nite, some of the tactical decisions were terrible could mention a few names that were terrible, but saying we won't run loughguile close how do u know that, we have played them twice this year won 1 and lost the other by 2 points but could of won that game, use worry about cdall if use get there, the town will look after themselves there is always extra in the tank once we play that red jersey
I've to get eyes tested lads.  For unless am blind.  We had "that red jersey" on.  And there wasn't much in the tank. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 23, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2013, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
Question for the Ballycastle posters.  Do you not think your tactics were a bit strange yesterday?  Why play with only 5 forwards in the first half with a nice breeze at your backs?  After your whirlwind start you only scored 3 points in the next 25 minutes.

Also, I'd say Neal McAuley is your best player but he seems to get quite an easy ticket.  I'd be wanting my best player to mark someone and get the better of them and influence the game from there.  NMA spends his time sweeping in behind the half back line with limited impact on games.  One of his best assets is his catching but he isn't even contesting high balls in his current role.  Strange one.

That I don't agree with but the rest yeah. Every game I went to that is always the way of it and other ppl say its the same every game. Why? No one has answered that one.

Thats interesting I'd say hes the best player the town have by miles.

Where can I read a match reports? hoganstand and antrim gaa websites have drawn a blank.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 23, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 23, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 23, 2013, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 23, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
Question for the Ballycastle posters.  Do you not think your tactics were a bit strange yesterday?  Why play with only 5 forwards in the first half with a nice breeze at your backs?  After your whirlwind start you only scored 3 points in the next 25 minutes.

Also, I'd say Neal McAuley is your best player but he seems to get quite an easy ticket.  I'd be wanting my best player to mark someone and get the better of them and influence the game from there.  NMA spends his time sweeping in behind the half back line with limited impact on games.  One of his best assets is his catching but he isn't even contesting high balls in his current role.  Strange one.

That I don't agree with but the rest yeah. Every game I went to that is always the way of it and other ppl say its the same every game. Why? No one has answered that one.

Thats interesting I'd say hes the best player the town have by miles.

Where can I read a match reports? hoganstand and antrim gaa websites have drawn a blank.

Try BBC NI Sports web site, its right beside the ladies hockey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 23, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
thought both Dunloy and the town well beat yesterday.  both tried to compensate with a bit more aggression but it wasn't working out for them

thought Elliot let a bit too much go at times yesterday and there was a few incidents bordering on nasty.  was there not the usual big Dunloy support ??

however a great turn out for both games and a success.  expect a bumper crowd in ballycastle on Sunday 

any word of who gets the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 23, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
thought both Dunloy and the town well beat yesterday.  both tried to compensate with a bit more aggression but it wasn't working out for them

thought Elliot let a bit too much go at times yesterday and there was a few incidents bordering on nasty.  was there not the usual big Dunloy support ??

however a great turn out for both games and a success.  expect a bumper crowd in ballycastle on Sunday 

any word of who gets the final
ballycastle, 3.30 next Sunday I believe. The time might change though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 23, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
thought both Dunloy and the town well beat yesterday.  both tried to compensate with a bit more aggression but it wasn't working out for them

thought Elliot let a bit too much go at times yesterday and there was a few incidents bordering on nasty.  was there not the usual big Dunloy support ??

however a great turn out for both games and a success.  expect a bumper crowd in ballycastle on Sunday 

any word of who gets the final

Checked the phone all day!!! :P

Loughgiel by 6 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on September 23, 2013, 09:39:36 PM
Belfast did have a team in the U-21 final though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: jdyok on September 23, 2013, 09:39:36 PM
Belfast did have a team in the U-21 final though  ;)

Yes they did, thank fcuk we'd (south Antrim) some sucess in an adult competition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
StPauls, Pearses, Lamh Dearg, Coleraine all pulled out of the minor B league. Don't know where Sarsfields, Stinsons, Creggan were. You just can't keep throwing a ball in once a week for a few months a year and expect any youngster to enjoy playing the game. A lot of clubs not doing/able to do enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
cushendun v creggan in a junior final before it I think

all we need now is the weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2013, 08:48:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 23, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
StPauls, Pearses, Lamh Dearg, Coleraine all pulled out of the minor B league. Don't know where Sarsfields, Stinsons, Creggan were. You just can't keep throwing a ball in once a week for a few months a year and expect any youngster to enjoy playing the game. A lot of clubs not doing/able to do enough
head that as well. totally unfair on the lads at B grade where they were left in position where they had no game for months due to clubs pulling out. we couldnt of put them into the A grade as they are far too young to be competing at that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
cushendun v creggan in a junior final before it I think

all we need now is the weather
Is this the start of something decent for Cushendun as they have dropped a long way from playing Div 1 and SHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
cushendun v creggan in a junior final before it I think

all we need now is the weather
Is this the start of something decent for Cushendun as they have dropped a long way from playing Div 1 and SHC?

I know they lost the junior final last year to St Endas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2013, 02:10:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
cushendun v creggan in a junior final before it I think

all we need now is the weather
Is this the start of something decent for Cushendun as they have dropped a long way from playing Div 1 and SHC?

I know they lost the junior final last year to St Endas

Is it a young team on the way up or still backboned by the lads who played most of the late 90's and 00's for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I hear Hassan was royally shafted for county Hurling Final, ex said no to Derry referee! Unreal, between Reilly and Elliott then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I hear Hassan was royally shafted for county Hurling Final, ex said no to Derry referee! Unreal, between Reilly and Elliott then.

Garret not involved? Terry may get the nod then. Thought Mark would have had a chance seeing he'd done very well this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I hear Hassan was royally shafted for county Hurling Final, ex said no to Derry referee! Unreal, between Reilly and Elliott then.

Heard he might be getting the Down gig the same day, no confirmation as yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Terry Reilly? For a county hurling final?


Where is Hassan from?
Its a bit inconsistent saying he's good to have come and do our league games but not championship no?

I know there's a bit of "share it about" but surely the best man should get the job!
Don't think that's Mark either Mr2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Terry Reilly? For a county hurling final?


Where is Hassan from?
Its a bit inconsistent saying he's good to have come and do our league games but not championship no?

I know there's a bit of "share it about" but surely the best man should get the job!
Don't think that's Mark either Mr2!

I've no problems with any referee who referee's in Antrim and gets Championship games, be he a Down man or a Derry man, wouldn't be a bad idea for the Antrim referees to do also the Down championships, and when the Derry lads fully commit to the Antrim leagues they will also be available for their championships.

So who is the best man btdtgtt? Mark has done well, players respect him and he's consistant, ie players know his style, likewise Terry. Owen in my view has refereed the same way for a long time, so again you know what to expect same as Garret.

I think we get lost on who's the referee a bit, I know I did as a manager but that's cause you want the best for the team, but deep down if the team is well prepared and disciplined then the referee will have no bearing on your game, end off.

This game on Sunday will be as good as it gets I feel. The Dall hurt form last year, getting knocked out by Dunloy, Loughgiel frustrated at not getting back at Croke and two teams that, lets be honest don't like each other. Great ingredients me thinks for a tasty dish!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
I honestly believe there'll be 10 points in it. Loughgiel have a well established proven team who know how to win and have paced themselves right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
I honestly believe there'll be 10 points in it. Loughgiel have a well established proven team who know how to win and have paced themselves right.

Been thinking the same but they haven't really opened the shoulders in Antrim finals of late, why would Sunday be any different? Cushendall have managed to keep a lead and win out, will their lapse in the game mean that Loughgiel get the upper hand and win?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2013, 03:30:35 PM
Mark got the U21 so he is , and duffy does the appointments so hes out, he can't recommend himself or maybe he could? I agree mr2, it will be a hot one need a strong experienced team for this one I think anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
I'm gona upset the trend here and back the dall to win by 3 points.

They have a lot of good young players in their ranks, plus they are hungry to win it this year. I seem that from them on sat past. The youth they have brought in has strengthen them and with that good minor team working its way up it bodes well for them.

Lgiel are still damn good but age is the thing that's catching them up. Too many on the wrong side of 30. Do they have the same drive to win it again? Maybe but is it the same as cushendalls? I don't think it.

I do think lgiel are a good team, great players amongst them like Eddie, liam and shay who can win games on their own. I just feel that theirs a change in the guard coming.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
I'm gona upset the trend here and back the dall to win by 3 points.

They have a lot of good young players in their ranks, plus they are hungry to win it this year. I seem that from them on sat past. The youth they have brought in has strengthen them and with that good minor team working its way up it bodes well for them.

Lgiel are still damn good but age is the thing that's catching them up. Too many on the wrong side of 30. Do they have the same drive to win it again? Maybe but is it the same as cushendalls? I don't think it.

I do think lgiel are a good team, great players amongst them like Eddie, liam and shay who can win games on their own. I just feel that theirs a change in the guard coming.......

Cushendall will have to improve about 25-30% on their semi final performance to compete against LG in the final. Dunloy cut them open numerous times and with better finishing could have punished a lot more severely. At the other end dont see where the range of scores is going to come from to put up a score that would trouble LG.

Simple again, LG to stifle the game and pick Cushendall off with handy frees that Watson et al will pick up.

(Ye didnt believe me when I said about Ballycastle  ;) )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:21 AM
cushendun v creggan in a junior final before it I think

all we need now is the weather
Is this the start of something decent for Cushendun as they have dropped a long way from playing Div 1 and SHC?

I know they lost the junior final last year to St Endas
A year too early for them last season but they will have too much for Creggan who are over reliant on the McCanns. Not more than 5 or 6 points the margin I'd say because I'd expect Creggan to go at them but if they keep the their heads they are the much better team overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 24, 2013, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 24, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I hear Hassan was royally shafted for county Hurling Final, ex said no to Derry referee! Unreal, between Reilly and Elliott then.

Garret not involved? Terry may get the nod then. Thought Mark would have had a chance seeing he'd done very well this year

From what I have seen regarding refs it should be G Duffy hands down (Only the second best ref in St Galls though! :)).

I think Hassan would also be an ideal choice - seems a very experienced ref .  Elliott would also have the experience and would be a viable option but the suggestion of T Reilly, (no disrepect intended towards the guy) In my opinion, would be a weak appointment for a SHC final - he is still unproven.  I haven't seen or heard tell of him covering any big games in Antrim (unless someone can tell me any different). 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 24, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
I'm gona upset the trend here and back the dall to win by 3 points.

They have a lot of good young players in their ranks, plus they are hungry to win it this year. I seem that from them on sat past. The youth they have brought in has strengthen them and with that good minor team working its way up it bodes well for them.

Lgiel are still damn good but age is the thing that's catching them up. Too many on the wrong side of 30. Do they have the same drive to win it again? Maybe but is it the same as cushendalls? I don't think it.

I do think lgiel are a good team, great players amongst them like Eddie, liam and shay who can win games on their own. I just feel that theirs a change in the guard coming.......

I was of this opinion as well DR until I watched their performance on Sunday .... I was only basing my opinion on the results and hadn't seen them in action until Sunday.  It would appear their experience over the last number of years has given them a guideline as to when and how they should increase their intensity.  They also have a wealth of strength in depth as proven on Sunday .... I should have done my homework before lumping on Cushendall!   

Starting to worry about my Cushendall prediction now to be honest.

I see it going one of two ways ....

Cushendall narrowly or a landslide victory by Loughgiel (they have never had one in a Final recently and if they click it could well happen this year)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
They haven't had a big won in a final due to the teams they played being near in par with them.
A concern for the dall was the amount of chances we created but missed. Had we converted we could have won that game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Terry Reilly? For a county hurling final?


Where is Hassan from?
Its a bit inconsistent saying he's good to have come and do our league games but not championship no?

I know there's a bit of "share it about" but surely the best man should get the job!
Don't think that's Mark either Mr2!

I've no problems with any referee who referee's in Antrim and gets Championship games, be he a Down man or a Derry man, wouldn't be a bad idea for the Antrim referees to do also the Down championships, and when the Derry lads fully commit to the Antrim leagues they will also be available for their championships.

So who is the best man btdtgtt? Mark has done well, players respect him and he's consistant, ie players know his style, likewise Terry. Owen in my view has refereed the same way for a long time, so again you know what to expect same as Garret.

I think we get lost on who's the referee a bit, I know I did as a manager but that's cause you want the best for the team, but deep down if the team is well prepared and disciplined then the referee will have no bearing on your game, end off.

This game on Sunday will be as good as it gets I feel. The Dall hurt form last year, getting knocked out by Dunloy, Loughgiel frustrated at not getting back at Croke and two teams that, lets be honest don't like each other. Great ingredients me thinks for a tasty dish!!

Yes I agree that the ref is unlikely to effect the result - I just don't subscribe to this notion of who deserves it or "whos turn it is"

Personally I think Elliot is the best ref and would take hasson in front if Reilly or mark.
I actually think that Aidan Kelly has shown well in the games I've seen too regardless of experience.

I don't know why people think loughgiel are due to blow a team away.
When was the last one-sided final?
Sometimes watching a team on the national stage fools us into thinking they are further ahead of the others than reality.
For example - that great Dunloy team still shared championships with cushendall and Rossa took them to replays.

I think it promises to be a fantastic game if the weather do us all a favour. Some great hurlers on show and two excellent teams - with no shortage of niggle! Don't see it finishing 15 a side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2013, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
Lgiel are still damn good but age is the thing that's catching them up. Too many on the wrong side of 30. Do they have the same drive to win it again? Maybe but is it the same as cushendalls? I don't think it.

I just feel that theirs a change in the guard coming.......

Rumors of a teams demise due to the average age of the team rising takes about 5 or 6 years to become a truth. If theyre still damn good at the minute, then theyll not get a wile lot older before Sunday  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Terry Reilly? For a county hurling final?


Where is Hassan from?
Its a bit inconsistent saying he's good to have come and do our league games but not championship no?

I know there's a bit of "share it about" but surely the best man should get the job!
Don't think that's Mark either Mr2!

I've no problems with any referee who referee's in Antrim and gets Championship games, be he a Down man or a Derry man, wouldn't be a bad idea for the Antrim referees to do also the Down championships, and when the Derry lads fully commit to the Antrim leagues they will also be available for their championships.

So who is the best man btdtgtt? Mark has done well, players respect him and he's consistant, ie players know his style, likewise Terry. Owen in my view has refereed the same way for a long time, so again you know what to expect same as Garret.

I think we get lost on who's the referee a bit, I know I did as a manager but that's cause you want the best for the team, but deep down if the team is well prepared and disciplined then the referee will have no bearing on your game, end off.

This game on Sunday will be as good as it gets I feel. The Dall hurt form last year, getting knocked out by Dunloy, Loughgiel frustrated at not getting back at Croke and two teams that, lets be honest don't like each other. Great ingredients me thinks for a tasty dish!!

Yes I agree that the ref is unlikely to effect the result - I just don't subscribe to this notion of who deserves it or "whos turn it is"

Personally I think Elliot is the best ref and would take hasson in front if Reilly or mark.
I actually think that Aidan Kelly has shown well in the games I've seen too regardless of experience.

I don't know why people think loughgiel are due to blow a team away.
When was the last one-sided final?
Sometimes watching a team on the national stage fools us into thinking they are further ahead of the others than reality.
For example - that great Dunloy team still shared championships with cushendall and Rossa took them to replays.

I think it promises to be a fantastic game if the weather do us all a favour. Some great hurlers on show and two excellent teams - with no shortage of niggle! Don't see it finishing 15 a side.

Aidan's done rightly has has covered plenty of games for Antrim, Any of the games he's ref'd us he's been spot on, takes no crap either

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2013, 09:47:19 PM
The ref last saturday was awful so i'd hope he wouldn't get it! Very lucky it all didn't kick off with how much was let go. That was either way too.

Loughgiel will win by 5 or 6 i think. Cushendall's defense too porous and some of the younger guys, while good, just lack that bit of experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
As regards Loughgiel players being "the wrong side of 30", that would be an issue in Inter County hurling but not club hurling. I think Cushendall will find them very hard to handle on Sunday.

The fact that they are being written off in some quarters will help to propel them to a big performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 24, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
As regards Loughgiel players being "the wrong side of 30", that would be an issue in Inter County hurling but not club hurling. I think Cushendall will find them very hard to handle on Sunday.

The fact that they are being written off in some quarters will help to propel them to a big performance.

I don't know of too many hurling men writting them off in fairness Minder. Cushendall know they are up against it, Id say they are looking forward to the match and have prepared as best as they can, I think they are nearly fully fit with Sean Delargy coming off the bench on Sat, so all their main players are fit and ready to go to 'Town' (ho ho)

It's all about the start, can Cushendall get a good start and maintain it or will Loughgiel get the measure of the Dall and push on. intriguing game and no doubt come Monday (more likely Sunday night on here) we'll be talking about some controversy over a referee decision lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on September 24, 2013, 10:19:44 PM
Mark O'Neill is the best referee I've seen this year and did an excellent job of the U21 final. I've also been very impressed with a lad from Glenravel, Ryan O'Reilly, who is very much in the same mould as Mark, quietly going about the job and barely noticeable in the games I've seen him ref. Not one of the big names, but very good IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 10:20:44 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on September 24, 2013, 10:19:44 PM
Mark O'Neill is the best referee I've seen this year and did an excellent job of the U21 final. I've also been very impressed with a lad from Glenravel, Ryan O'Reilly, who is very much in the same mould as Mark, quietly going about the job and barely noticeable in the games I've seen him ref. Not one of the big names, but very good IMO.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on September 24, 2013, 10:28:42 PM
know a glenravel referee but not sure if he is ryan O'reilly the guy im thinking of is carrying a little bit of timber, no slant just trying to place this ryan fellow

hear the u21 boys are starting training etc soon with seniors a good few have been contacted

only worry I have with the shams was the poor performance in the half back line and midfield

will side with the ex all Ireland champions on this one.  reckon they will win by 3.  cushendall and their young lads will have to wait another year.  loughgiel don't have much on the conveyor belt for the next while as far as I can see.  that was a particularly strong minor outfit that were victorious.   however some will drift away and others will play senior with their own clubs I assume i.e. cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2013, 10:32:46 PM
Played in games that Ryan & Aidan reffed, 2 super refs & go quietly about it and can have a smile with players to.

Whatever happened Herbie McAuley?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2013, 10:32:46 PM
Played in games that Ryan & Aidan reffed, 2 super refs & go quietly about it and can have a smile with players to.

Whatever happened Herbie McAuley?

Aye right enough, really liked Herbie's style
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
I don't get any argument about loughgiel being too old.

Forget about age - fitness and hunger matters.
They have it in abundance.

The age thing is a county issue - and it's got more to do with time available than anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2013, 07:57:06 AM
The age thing won't matter this weekend lads, I'm speaking more in the next few years. Players legs go, you know it yourself if your like me and in your 30's. it's not easy staying fit.

I've always stated that I think lgiel are a good team but the reality is the success will stop in a few years time, the same as it did for us. Lgiels best players are their oldest ones. Ding, DD, Liam, johnny, Barney are all more or less coming to the end of a great career. Can they replace players like that? You can't simple as.

I'm looking more in the long term and I see the dall being stronger next year and the year after. They won't lose many strong players whereas lgiel will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 08:51:44 AM
I think you are way off the mark DR. If you had the lean years that those lads had you'd enjoy all the potential good ones. You're also ignoring a fair few of their central players whove a fair few years in them. Loughgiel are winning on merit. Anyone who wants to win against them will have to put it up to a serious team who know what they're about. The dall are too light both in frame and fragility for the likes of Loughgiel (not trying to demean their obvious potential...they beat us afterall). They're a good team but not championship material in my book
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2013, 08:59:30 AM
i know what your saying skull. we did it for years but you know yourself that when the core of your team goes due to age you cant replace those great players with players similar sitting on a bench. it isnt that easy to do. lgiel dont have it coming up through from under age and havent had it for a few years now. we are the same.
cdall on the other hand are a young team blending youth in well eg natty, campbell. ok they may be light this year but the next few years will be better for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
You don't have to be winning championships at juvenile to have players with good potential. Loughgiel have players with good potential at U14 U16 U18 and U21. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
You don't have to be winning championships at juvenile to have players with good potential. Loughgiel have players with good potential at U14 U16 U18 and U21.

The average age of Loughgiel's outfield starting team on Sunday was 27.  As someone else stated I think age is more of a factor at inter county level.  Hopefully this team will be around for some considerable time yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
You don't have to be winning championships at juvenile to have players with good potential. Loughgiel have players with good potential at U14 U16 U18 and U21.

The average age of Loughgiel's outfield starting team on Sunday was 27.  As someone else stated I think age is more of a factor at inter county level.  Hopefully this team will be around for some considerable time yet.

DD as a keeper can go on for a few more years, Watson must be 33 or 34 now and if he looks after himself would be a threat at club level for a few more years yet, ditto Ding. TBH if the older guard can avoid injuries they've a few more years left in them yet.
Age wouldn't be a concern for Loughgeil just yet.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 25, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
You don't have to be winning championships at juvenile to have players with good potential. Loughgiel have players with good potential at U14 U16 U18 and U21.

The average age of Loughgiel's outfield starting team on Sunday was 27.  As someone else stated I think age is more of a factor at inter county level.  Hopefully this team will be around for some considerable time yet.

DD as a keeper can go on for a few more years, Watson must be 33 or 34 now and if he looks after himself would be a threat at club level for a few more years yet, ditto Ding. TBH if the older guard can avoid injuries they've a few more years left in them yet.
Age wouldn't be a concern for Loughgeil just yet.

Winker turns 31 shortly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2013, 10:36:19 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 25, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
You don't have to be winning championships at juvenile to have players with good potential. Loughgiel have players with good potential at U14 U16 U18 and U21.

The average age of Loughgiel's outfield starting team on Sunday was 27.  As someone else stated I think age is more of a factor at inter county level.  Hopefully this team will be around for some considerable time yet.

DD as a keeper can go on for a few more years, Watson must be 33 or 34 now and if he looks after himself would be a threat at club level for a few more years yet, ditto Ding. TBH if the older guard can avoid injuries they've a few more years left in them yet.
Age wouldn't be a concern for Loughgeil just yet.

Winker turns 31 shortly.

I suppose he's been on the go from an early age.

Is Joey Scullion a bit younger then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
Scullion would be no more than 27/28 I reckon. DD Quinn about 34/35 and Gillan about 35/36. Johnny Campbell must be 30 then? I don't think he's as old as people reckon.

Cushendall fairly young too. McKeegan the oldest.

Dunloy still have a few older guys hanging round I think. The Richmonds and Micky McClements must be low 30s at least.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
Liam's 36. Paddy I think 33, Micky 32. They are the oldest members. The rest are 19-27 bracket which is grand for us to work with. The core of the team won't change much for the next 6 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 01:10:04 PM
Also with these older players eventually retiring they are leaving a strong nucleus which only needs a few additions from underage rather than hugely successful teams.
The rest of the clubs will need a huge injection of talent to bridge the gap - I think Ballycastle are the nearest but still a bit to go.
Like I said before - age is really an inter-county concern in terms of time available for preparation and travelling etc.
At club level I think the most successful players will generally be the more experienced.


Personally I'm going for a one point game on Sunday - I'll get off the fence and toss a coin on who wins it later!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Mr. T. Reilly. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Mr. T. Reilly.

More evidence of someone hanging around long enough in Antrim circles to get a big job!

I hope he is up to it!
Mind you - if Cushendall or Loughgiel aren't happy he won't find much solace in the Ballycastle clubrooms either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Mr. T. Reilly.

That explains why the Town "rolled over" on Sunday.  No chance in the final with that character.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2013, 03:48:10 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Mr. T. Reilly.

That explains why the Town "rolled over" on Sunday.  No chance in the final with that character.  ::)

Was I not slated earlier in the season for saying that this would be the case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 25, 2013, 04:32:50 PM

SIE, what are your pre-match thoughts on the SHC final, having seen both teams in action last weekend?

I actually think the appointment of T.R will suit Loughgiel better as they seem to be very disciplined in the tackle and will not concede as many frees as Cushendall will.  Would have preferred someone who would let things go a bit more.

Refs don't win or lose games but their refereeing style can have an impact on the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2013, 03:48:10 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 01:23:30 PM
Referee sorted for Sunday I hear
Mr. T. Reilly.

That explains why the Town "rolled over" on Sunday.  No chance in the final with that character.  ::)

Was I not slated earlier in the season for saying that this would be the case?

Your mention of Mr Reilly is gone from my memeory.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

SARCASM ALERT  SARCASM ALERT  SARCASM ALERT

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

When did the Antrim county board become credible?!

U say these assessments are a good thing?
Who carries them out?
And who is to say their opinion is infallible!

I don't know any criteria under which terry Reilly is the best man for this job?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 10:59:07 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 25, 2013, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

SARCASM ALERT  SARCASM ALERT  SARCASM ALERT

No but seriously, that be daft. They would have to come away with some integrity. Terry will do a grand job, He's ref'd a right few games I've been involved with both playing and managing in and got mainly all the right calls, he plays it by the book, ya can't go wrong with that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2013, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 25, 2013, 04:32:50 PM

SIE, what are your pre-match thoughts on the SHC final, having seen both teams in action last weekend?

I actually think the appointment of T.R will suit Loughgiel better as they seem to be very disciplined in the tackle and will not concede as many frees as Cushendall will.  Would have preferred someone who would let things go a bit more.

Refs don't win or lose games but their refereeing style can have an impact on the game.

sadly at times they have a bearing on the result with inconsistant calls.

seen terry a few times this year and hes not on my list as a good ref. done us a few times this year and has been totally inconsistant from game to game. i dont mind a ref making a mistake, they are human like the rest of us and cant see everything that goes on. so we cant expect them to call them all. i just want a ref to be consistant, i want them all to be consistant and call the same things all the time.

that said we would moan if they did that too!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

When did the Antrim county board become credible?!

U say these assessments are a good thing?
Who carries them out?
And who is to say their opinion is infallible!

I don't know any criteria under which terry Reilly is the best man for this job?!

The assessments that were carried out on me were done by Tommy McIntyre, now are you going to say his opinion on refereeing is bad? Very strange, seems you have an axe to grind.

Terry will call the fouls when he see's them, don't foul and you won't get blown up for a free, it doesn't get any eaiser ffs. Lets give Terry a break, and concentrate on the game ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 26, 2013, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

When did the Antrim county board become credible?!

U say these assessments are a good thing?
Who carries them out?
And who is to say their opinion is infallible!

I don't know any criteria under which terry Reilly is the best man for this job?!

The assessments that were carried out on me were done by Tommy McIntyre, now are you going to say his opinion on refereeing is bad? Very strange, seems you have an axe to grind.

Terry will call the fouls when he see's them, don't foul and you won't get blown up for a free, it doesn't get any eaiser ffs. Lets give Terry a break, and concentrate on the game ffs

As long as he lets the game go and doesnt give any special treatment to players he will be fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

When did the Antrim county board become credible?!

U say these assessments are a good thing?
Who carries them out?
And who is to say their opinion is infallible!

I don't know any criteria under which terry Reilly is the best man for this job?!

The assessments that were carried out on me were done by Tommy McIntyre, now are you going to say his opinion on refereeing is bad? Very strange, seems you have an axe to grind.

Terry will call the fouls when he see's them, don't foul and you won't get blown up for a free, it doesn't get any eaiser ffs. Lets give Terry a break, and concentrate on the game ffs

Certainly not with Tommy! I always thought he was top class and if he'd have been from a bigger county and could have got a senior All-Ireland!

But the point I am making is the same in any walk of life - if the decision of the 'assessor' is deemed as definitive then there must be an assumption that he is correct. Thats not always the case!

I agree fully that the two teams concerned should and will be focussed entirely on the game and not the ref - however I have just seen too often that ref's in Antrim have too much bearing on games - and thats not a good thing! Not personal - no axe to grind - just an observation over years of games and refs! I have seen too often refs here dictating the game and personalities coming into it.

Anyway - good luck to Terry on Sunday (with the Ballycastle crowd too!) and I hope we all get a great game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 12:36:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 25, 2013, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 25, 2013, 05:29:00 PM
Its a stitch up! This was an appointment by a few ex members only, I not here to knock the referee, and I just hope he is up to the pace a verocity that will be delivered by two excellent teams to give us a great game.

Explain? surely there is no way a creditable organisation (Antrim County board)give appointments based on any other reason than who  is best for the job based on, assessments, experience, attitude and application, surely you jest. That be like saying I won't get any games based on being on the internet, tweeting or facebook  ;)?

The county have brought in a great way of making referees more accountable with regular assessments (I've had 3) with feedback, the fitness and health check at the start of the season was very good and all referees has a base line to work on for next year. All that stuff would be a waste of time/money if they just give it to people who they like ffs

When did the Antrim county board become credible?!

U say these assessments are a good thing?
Who carries them out?
And who is to say their opinion is infallible!

I don't know any criteria under which terry Reilly is the best man for this job?!

The assessments that were carried out on me were done by Tommy McIntyre, now are you going to say his opinion on refereeing is bad? Very strange, seems you have an axe to grind.

Terry will call the fouls when he see's them, don't foul and you won't get blown up for a free, it doesn't get any easier ffs. Lets give Terry a break, and concentrate on the game ffs

Certainly not with Tommy! I always thought he was top class and if he'd have been from a bigger county and could have got a senior All-Ireland!

But the point I am making is the same in any walk of life - if the decision of the 'assessor' is deemed as definitive then there must be an assumption that he is correct. That's not always the case!

I agree fully that the two teams concerned should and will be focussed entirely on the game and not the ref - however I have just seen too often that ref's in Antrim have too much bearing on games - and thats not a good thing! Not personal - no axe to grind - just an observation over years of games and refs! I have seen too often refs here dictating the game and personalities coming into it.

Anyway - good luck to Terry on Sunday (with the Ballycastle crowd too!) and I hope we all get a great game!

Yes who assesses the assessor?? In my line of work I used to assess students work, did they meet the standards set down by the awarding body, are they competent? I was given this by doing a course and based on my past experience in that area I was deemed fit to assess the student competent or not competent. We also had an Internal verifier who checked the assessor work to ensure the assessor is marking/assessing correctly. That's my job also now and I have to answer directly to the awarding body's external verifier.

After all that I'd like to think everything is in order, I'd imagine the team of assessors in Antrim would have something like that going on, but you can ask who's assessing the external verifier and so on ffs. What we have I think is better than what went on before, and hopefully will get a lot better.

The way I hear it's done, don't quote me, is the referee committee pick who they think is best for the job for the reasons given above, these names go to the county board who give the final say, this may be a flawed way, if for instance a member of that panel does not like a certain referee because (maybe not his style as they probably haven't seen him referee to make that judgement) on personality or what someone else says.

Always ways to improve things I'm sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
I think it's a bit naieve to think that the names forwarded and chosen by the county board go on reffing ability - who's owed a favour and who's turn it is etc might have at least as much of a bearing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
I think it's a bit naieve to think that the names forwarded and chosen by the county board go on reffing ability - who's owed a favour and who's turn it is etc might have at least as much of a bearing!

So to take away that from the County board so people don't assume that's the case, wouldn't it be better that the referee's committee are are given the job? They are in charge of the appointments for 95%of the games as it is without no hassle, and based on what I've stated before would have a better idea as to who is the best man for the job?

I wouldn't know how many games they would get to, with all the other work they do I'd say it would be hard enough to see most games so the logical call would be to leave that with the referee committee. But sure you'd probably say the referees would be doing favours also ffs, can't win

On a side ish note I have to say ( in my opinion) that the percentage of games that have been covered by neutral referees in the All County leagues must be near 99%. More referee's now than ever before, so well done to Paddy, Garret, and Gregory this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2013, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 25, 2013, 04:32:50 PM

SIE, what are your pre-match thoughts on the SHC final, having seen both teams in action last weekend?

I actually think the appointment of T.R will suit Loughgiel better as they seem to be very disciplined in the tackle and will not concede as many frees as Cushendall will.  Would have preferred someone who would let things go a bit more.

Refs don't win or lose games but their refereeing style can have an impact on the game.
Well, for a start, there will be no landslide 10 point win for either team as some are predicting on here. As ever between these two teams, it'll be tight with no quarter asked or given.

Cushendall have some excellent hurlers. On their day they could beat anyone on the island. McManus, Graffin and P Mc Naughton are the mainstays of the team with Shane the gamer changer. A lot will depend on him  and how he fairs against McCloskey or Ding.

Yous all know about loughgiel. There's no point in me waxing lyrically about them. What I will say is that Clyde and duck have been outstanding all year. The rest seem to be warming up at the right time.

It'll be close, but I'm going to say that cushendall will be hard to beat.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 26, 2013, 08:08:58 PM
But the point I am making is the same in any walk of life - if the decision of the 'assessor' is deemed as definitive then there must be an assumption that he is correct. Thats not always the case!

Can I just point out something? Firstly, "assessors" no longer exist, they are now called "advisors" which probably more correctly focuses on their intended role. Secondly, they do not make "decisions", definitive or otherwise. They merely observe a referee & draft up a report on his performance afterwards. The referees committee get a copy, the referee also gets a copy & it is entirely up to him whether he accepts & agrees with what is said in there or not. The advisor's number is on the report & there would be no problem with a referee contacting his advisor to run over the contents.

I will generally always try to speak briefly to a referee after a game & inform him that he was being observed. I can tell you that out of the dozen or so referees that I have watched this season, I have been fairly impressed with the high quality of the officials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
That's cleared that up. Forgot about the name change. but that's how it goes. Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 26, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
Last time I saw you, I was threatening to go out & assess you pmsl !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 26, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
Last time I saw you, I was threatening to go out & assess you pmsl !

A work in progress ;) Sure what else would you be doing? Watching games being involved in games, improving games(hopefully ;D).

It will never replace playing in games that's for sure, I hopefully have some games to play, even the odd reserve game next year if free. But I'll continue with this until some advisor says I'm shite lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 26, 2013, 09:37:11 PM
You're shite  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2013, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 26, 2013, 08:08:58 PM
But the point I am making is the same in any walk of life - if the decision of the 'assessor' is deemed as definitive then there must be an assumption that he is correct. Thats not always the case!

Can I just point out something? Firstly, "assessors" no longer exist, they are now called "advisors" which probably more correctly focuses on their intended role. Secondly, they do not make "decisions", definitive or otherwise. They merely observe a referee & draft up a report on his performance afterwards. The referees committee get a copy, the referee also gets a copy & it is entirely up to him whether he accepts & agrees with what is said in there or not. The advisor's number is on the report & there would be no problem with a referee contacting his advisor to run over the contents.

I will generally always try to speak briefly to a referee after a game & inform him that he was being observed. I can tell you that out of the dozen or so referees that I have watched this season, I have been fairly impressed with the high quality of the officials.

Thanks for that!
I can see the process alright but my point is just that if everything was working right then the best ref would get the county final and I don't believe that the case.
Granted tho - no process is ever perfect and people will always have issues!

I suppose the influx of the likes of Aidan Kelly suggests something's going in the right direction.

To repeat - good luck to terry I hope he has no bearing on what turns out to be a great game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2013, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2013, 09:37:11 PM
You're shite  ;D

I'll remember that :o Only kidding.... or am I ? no but seriously I am, or am I? ha :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2013, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2013, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 25, 2013, 04:32:50 PM

SIE, what are your pre-match thoughts on the SHC final, having seen both teams in action last weekend?

I actually think the appointment of T.R will suit Loughgiel better as they seem to be very disciplined in the tackle and will not concede as many frees as Cushendall will.  Would have preferred someone who would let things go a bit more.

Refs don't win or lose games but their refereeing style can have an impact on the game.
Well, for a start, there will be no landslide 10 point win for either team as some are predicting on here. As ever between these two teams, it'll be tight with no quarter asked or given.

Cushendall have some excellent hurlers. On their day they could beat anyone on the island. McManus, Graffin and P Mc Naughton are the mainstays of the team with Shane the gamer changer. A lot will depend on him  and how he fairs against McCloskey or Ding.

Yous all know about loughgiel. There's no point in me waxing lyrically about them. What I will say is that Clyde and duck have been outstanding all year. The rest seem to be warming up at the right time.

It'll be close, but I'm going to say that cushendall will be hard to beat.  ;)

its prob the game everyone was wanting to see including lgiel! a derby game final can go either way and heads go alot easier on both sides so this game will suit lgiel alot more.

still think it could be a sneaky 1 point win to the dall but only if they improve on how they played against us. if not then lgiel will win and join our good selves and Rossa in doing 4 in a row!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.

Who are you kidding? Talking your team down before a big game is all this is and you've been at it for a month now. There's no evidence that Loughgiel aren't the favorites to win the championship this year. Ballycastle are 4th in line. Shocks can and do happen but you've zero reason to think loughgiel shouldn't win tomorrows game handy (championship being championship). Ballycastle are no world beaters

QuoteYous all know about loughgiel. There's no point in me waxing lyrically about them

We all knew about Loughgiel before the Ballycastle game SIE ... but for some reason you told us all you doubted them. Back to waxing lyrically about the opposition again before the game ......... is there any point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
Going to go 1-16 2-09 to shamrocks or corse  :D it's going to be one hell of a battle IMO.  This 10 point shit just won't happen.    Unfortunately ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 27, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
If the conditions are fair I predict Loughgiel to win by around 5 points.  Similar to last year I expect it to be tense and not particuarly free flowing with the lads just doing enough to keep Cushendall at arms length.

If the wind kicks up and the rain is falling then it's anybodys game. 

I remember our minors beating Cushendal in a replayed final in Ballycastle by a point about 5/6 years ago on a rainy & windswept day. If conditions are similar on Sunday, I would gladly take the same result again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2013, 03:26:06 PM
I'd take 1-0 right now.  Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2013, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Jesus lads. You all seem to know me so well. I fancy the town to win. No sarcasm and no smugness intended at all. But believe me when I say that hope Loughgiel stuff you.

Who are you kidding? Talking your team down before a big game is all this is and you've been at it for a month now. There's no evidence that Loughgiel aren't the favorites to win the championship this year. Ballycastle are 4th in line. Shocks can and do happen but you've zero reason to think loughgiel shouldn't win tomorrows game handy (championship being championship). Ballycastle are no world beaters

QuoteYous all know about loughgiel. There's no point in me waxing lyrically about them

We all knew about Loughgiel before the Ballycastle game SIE ... but for some reason you told us all you doubted them. Back to waxing lyrically about the opposition again before the game ......... is there any point?
I thought the town would have won because of their showings against us earlier in the year and i thought they'd  have more in the tank. Obviously, I got that wrong. I also got it wrong about loughgiel, pleasantly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2013, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2013, 03:26:06 PM
I'd take 1-0 right now.  Lol
aet.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 27, 2013, 07:33:02 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 26, 2013, 09:37:11 PM
You're shite  ;D

That's would be pretty succinct, as an advisor's report. Put yourself forward!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2013, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2013, 06:53:47 PM
I thought the town would have won because of their showings against us earlier in the year and i thought they'd  have more in the tank. Obviously, I got that wrong. I also got it wrong about loughgiel, pleasantly so.

Of course you did. And your performance down in Dublin the week before wouldn't have gave you any confidence going into the game? Keep spinning if you like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2013, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2013, 06:53:47 PM
I thought the town would have won because of their showings against us earlier in the year and i thought they'd  have more in the tank. Obviously, I got that wrong. I also got it wrong about loughgiel, pleasantly so.

Of course you did. And your performance down in Dublin the week before wouldn't have gave you any confidence going into the game? Keep spinning if you like
the only thing I seen in Dublin last week was Roger waters in the aviva.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 27, 2013, 11:53:00 PM
Based on the semi final performances Loughgiel will win on Sunday. Although C'dall have 3 of our best county players Loughgiel's overall team and experience will be too much for Cushendall. Like any good championship team L'giel have timed their run right and were certainly up a notch or two up last Sunday compared to earlier performances in the championship and league.

As for Ballycastle last Sunday not shocked at the result really, given how erratic results and performances have been this year. They just have to keep at it and hopefully they can get the injured players back fully fit next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
Yer man in the black is having a mare in croker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 28, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
He was dreadful!
I wonder what his assessor will report!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 28, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
He was dreadful!
I wonder what his advisor assessor will report!

Fixed that for you

Bring your report card for tomorrow and give us an assessment of the game. Now remember there will be 30 plus players there and I want to hear of everyones mistakes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 28, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
I think in fairness players mistakes are pointed out often enough too!

I can't make the game tomorro due to me having married a terrible wench of a woman.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2013, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 28, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
I think in fairness players mistakes are pointed out often enough too!

I can't make the game tomorro due to me having married a terrible wench of a woman.

Not really, in most parts a player will drop a catch, miss hit a shot misplace the odd pass foul someone not track back I could go on. A referee makes 2/3 mistakes and he'll get a killing ffs

Loughgiel by 4/5 points, they are evens -3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 11:27:09 AM
Jeez it's wile quiet here ffs, no chat about the final at all really, I'd have thought the Loughgiel lads would have been winding it up a bit ffs!!

Worst case for the Dall is they lose by a few points, the upside is the younger ones get that bit of experience of playing in a final and will only make them hungry for more.

Fancy Cushendun for the Junior match, I liked Creggan and they had a few handy hurlers and not talking about the McCann's. Just expect Cushendun to have that tradition to get them over the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 29, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Blowing a gale here in Loughgiel.  Probably be just as bad if not worse in Ballycastle. Hopefully it won't spoil the game.

My prediction 3-15 to 1-16 for 4 in a row  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 29, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 29, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Blowing a gale here in Loughgiel.  Probably be just as bad if not worse in Ballycastle. Hopefully it won't spoil the game.

My prediction 3-15 to 1-16 for 4 in a row  :)

24 to 19?.......I think you are underestimating the impact of the weather and how tight this game will be.

16 points will win it I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2013, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 11:27:09 AM
Jeez it's wile quiet here ffs, no chat about the final at all really, I'd have thought the Loughgiel lads would have been winding it up a bit ffs!!

Worst case for the Dall is they lose by a few points, the upside is the younger ones get that bit of experience of playing in a final and will only make them hungry for more.

Fancy Cushendun for the Junior match, I liked Creggan and they had a few handy hurlers and not talking about the McCann's. Just expect Cushendun to have that tradition to get them over the line
you don't want to go believing everything you hear about us loughgiel folk mr2. Just heading out the door. Good luck to both teams but up the shamrocks!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2013, 03:47:06 PM
Any updates on the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
Shams 1-4 Cdall 0-2

Drici is doing updates in gaa section o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 29, 2013, 03:50:58 PM
According to drici in latest scores thread  the shamrocks leading 1*4 to 0*4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2013, 04:53:35 PM
Loughgiel 3-14 Cushendall 2-6 FT

:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
"Comprehensive" is the word.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Any results from Cushendun game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2013, 05:03:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Any results from Cushendun game?

Creggan won by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2013, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 29, 2013, 05:03:41 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 29, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Any results from Cushendun game?

Creggan won by 5

Ta minder
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2013, 05:10:36 PM
 :) :)  a super performance by a super team. Brilliant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Well done Loughgiel. The easiest one yet. I never doubted it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
Congrats loughgiel. Can't see them going away any time soon. Great team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 29, 2013, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 29, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 29, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Blowing a gale here in Loughgiel.  Probably be just as bad if not worse in Ballycastle. Hopefully it won't spoil the game.

My prediction 3-15 to 1-16 for 4 in a row  :)

24 to 19?.......I think you are underestimating the impact of the weather and how tight this game will be.

16 points will win it I think.

Maybe I wasn't giving our defence enough credit  :o

Great performance from start to finish from our boys - well done to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Have one for Me the night pdiddy. I have to rise at 5 in the morning.  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Obviously talking about SIE there. Just right too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Obviously talking about SIE there. Just right too

Very good ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Obviously talking about SIE there. Just right too
I never doubted they'd win the final skull.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
Couldn't understand them being written off.

Hirty Darry promised us they wouldn't win it.
indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2013, 08:09:09 PM
Loughgiel are battle hardened, experienced and have a very strong squad. Couldn't see them beaten today and I don't see anyone in Antrim toppling them for another couple of years.

Didn't think they would deal with Cushendall quite so easily though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 29, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
The Dall just rolled over again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 29, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
The Dall just rolled over again.

In fairness this is the first time there was any daylight between the teams in the last load of years in the Championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.

I got 2 pieces of feedback on the games from and st john's and Rossa - both identical to that!
Is that good or bad for u mr2?!

Well congrats to all shamrocks - I personally think and I don't hear anything different that they might prove to be the best team ever out of Antrim. Is that contentious?!

I also hear their fitness leveled were massive - reading between the lines that would tell me this outfit know more than a county championship has been their aim?!

Toying around with us SiE?
Good luck for another all-Ireland?!

How was the venue?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.

I got 2 pieces of feedback on the games from and st john's and Rossa - both identical to that!
Is that good or bad for u mr2?!

Well congrats to all shamrocks - I personally think and I don't hear anything different that they might prove to be the best team ever out of Antrim. Is that contentious?!

I also hear their fitness leveled were massive - reading between the lines that would tell me this outfit know more than a county championship has been their aim?!

Toying around with us SiE?
Good luck for another all-Ireland?!

How was the venue?

Good or bad for me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
No1 our end will speak bad about venue now.  Lol.  I was very very skeptical about the venue b4 hand.  I actually don't mind the pitch now.  Funny enough.   It's a great achievement from this bunch of lads to do the 4 in a row.  It's been a long long road.   The jokers of the county. 6 finals in a row. 6 defeats in a row.    It's unbelievable what these lads have done for our club. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
No1 our end will speak bad about venue now.  Lol.  I was very very skeptical about the venue b4 hand.  I actually don't mind the pitch now.  Funny enough.   It's a great achievement from this bunch of lads to do the 4 in a row.  It's been a long long road.   The jokers of the county. 6 finals in a row. 6 defeats in a row.    It's unbelievable what these lads have done for our club.

And themselves, was very evident in the speech that they were going on about people saying they have too many miles on the clock and we aren't bad for a done team!!

Who was feeding them this? f**king hell they have been a great act even when they weren't winning during the 6 in a row. Mind games but whatever it takes eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:09:37 PM
You have to play on all of this mr2.  The more any team is run down.  The more they will want to prove people wrong.  I've been waiting on today nearly 10 years.  For our lads to actually play in a county final.   Savage.   On downside.  Very young dall team. With a lot to offer on another day.  Sure.  Well see ;) #OBY
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.

I got 2 pieces of feedback on the games from and st john's and Rossa - both identical to that!
Is that good or bad for u mr2?!

Well congrats to all shamrocks - I personally think and I don't hear anything different that they might prove to be the best team ever out of Antrim. Is that contentious?!

I also hear their fitness leveled were massive - reading between the lines that would tell me this outfit know more than a county championship has been their aim?!

Toying around with us SiE?
Good luck for another all-Ireland?!

How was the venue?

Good or bad for me?

I just mean urs not often johnnies and Rossa agree let alone agree with u or galls!
Maybe that says something about loughgiel dominance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.

I got 2 pieces of feedback on the games from and st john's and Rossa - both identical to that!
Is that good or bad for u mr2?!

Well congrats to all shamrocks - I personally think and I don't hear anything different that they might prove to be the best team ever out of Antrim. Is that contentious?!

I also hear their fitness leveled were massive - reading between the lines that would tell me this outfit know more than a county championship has been their aim?!

Toying around with us SiE?
Good luck for another all-Ireland?!

How was the venue?

Good or bad for me?

I just mean urs not often johnnies and Rossa agree let alone agree with u or galls!
Maybe that says something about loughgiel dominance!
what does it say?   Any team run down wants to drive on,  special day in our club.  Won't always be days like today.  But I wanna honestly say I feel Cdalls pain.   We've had many a hard day. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 11:29:40 PM
Fair dues SG yes loughgiel know how it feels to lose. Multiplied by 6!

What I mean was that I have rarely seen a team so widely acknowledged as being so far ahead of everyone else!
Mr2 comments have been echoed by others and it seems everyone accepts it's loughgiel a era and they deserve it - are there really any begrudgers left?!

Enjoy ur time and good luck with that Moore cup - I think u have met before!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
There's always begrudgers mate.   On all walks of life.   Ballygalget winning today just doesn't leave us in a semi.   Ulster needs winning. But there's a small bit of hurt after last years semi.  Not wanting to look to far infront.  But we again maybe have something to prove. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 11:43:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2013, 06:57:13 PM
Loughgiel won without getting out of second gear, there was no fight from Cushendall they hit aimless balls into crowded areas, they had about 4/5 players that didn't hurl at all, too many boys went missing on the biggest day of the year.

Loughgiel were very measured very disciplined and played a great brand of hurling, everyone of their players are well drilled and knew were their players were, all clearances form defence were measured, the defence and midfield linked up well and the space they created was embarrassing.

Winker had a quiet game by his standards but was involved in a lot of scores (creating them) the fielding by Loughgiel was up there with county lads, cross field balls line balls, they mixed it up well.

Terry did a great job also, though in fairness there wasn't much niggling going on so he didn't have to worry about that and the game flowed (for Loughgiel)

So when the win Ulster they could give it another push, they seem better than a couple of years ago.

I got 2 pieces of feedback on the games from and st john's and Rossa - both identical to that!
Is that good or bad for u mr2?!

Well congrats to all shamrocks - I personally think and I don't hear anything different that they might prove to be the best team ever out of Antrim. Is that contentious?!

I also hear their fitness leveled were massive - reading between the lines that would tell me this outfit know more than a county championship has been their aim?!

Toying around with us SiE?
Good luck for another all-Ireland?!

How was the venue?

Good or bad for me?

I just mean urs not often johnnies and Rossa agree let alone agree with u or galls!
Maybe that says something about loughgiel dominance!
what does it say?   Any team run down wants to drive on,  special day in our club.  Won't always be days like today.  But I wanna honestly say I feel Cdalls pain.   We've had many a hard day.

Yeah but I don't know anyone who's run them down for their ability these last few years, great team. Bench mark for the rest and up to everyone else to raise it. Been saying it for years, people have thought the same of our club to in the football but it's up to the rest to get up to that standard, once they do we'll have a better county football and hurling team, I firmly believe that.

Well done by the way, I've a Dall man as good friend he'll be are smarting over this :P

Oh as for the best Antrim club team ever, very hard to claim this title yes they have won 4 in a row yes they have won the All Ireland club but there have been some cracking teams, Ballcastle team of the 80's was a cracker your own team in those years, the Dunloy team was also special as was the Dall team of a few years ago. Go back again further and you had the great Rossa team. Enjoy it while it last

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2013, 12:04:42 AM
Cheers MR2.  I no more than anyone it won't last forever.    Other than the odd outburst.   I've tried to be gracious in winning.  It's along road.   Those you pass on the way up you pass on your way down.   But I hope we've a year or 2 left in us.   Us being a very over the hill team  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
There's always begrudgers mate.   On all walks of life.   Ballygalget winning today just doesn't leave us in a semi.   Ulster needs winning. But there's a small bit of hurt after last years semi.  Not wanting to look to far infront.  But we again maybe have something to prove.

Whilst we won handily enough today after a bad start we're a good few steps down from the standard Loughgeil are at. Can't see us trouble Loughgeil, but hope the young lads on the team learn a valuable lesson on where they're at and the gulf in speed of hurling, stickwork etc may stand to them in later years.

Will the Ulster council revert to a 'home and away' arrangement for Ulster club fixtures in the absence of Casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 24, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
I'm gona upset the trend here and back the dall to win by 3 points.

They have a lot of good young players in their ranks, plus they are hungry to win it this year. I seem that from them on sat past. The youth they have brought in has strengthen them and with that good minor team working its way up it bodes well for them.

Lgiel are still damn good but age is the thing that's catching them up. Too many on the wrong side of 30. Do they have the same drive to win it again? Maybe but is it the same as cushendalls? I don't think it.

I do think lgiel are a good team, great players amongst them like Eddie, liam and shay who can win games on their own. I just feel that theirs a change in the guard coming.......

I was of this opinion as well DR until I watched their performance on Sunday .... I was only basing my opinion on the results and hadn't seen them in action until Sunday.  It would appear their experience over the last number of years has given them a guideline as to when and how they should increase their intensity.  They also have a wealth of strength in depth as proven on Sunday .... I should have done my homework before lumping on Cushendall!   

Starting to worry about my Cushendall prediction now to be honest.

I see it going one of two ways ....

Cushendall narrowly or a landslide victory by Loughgiel (they have never had one in a Final recently and if they click it could well happen this year)

Hardstation/SIE

See my above post prior to the final.  I admitted I was worried about my Cushendall prediction after seeing Loughgiel's performance in the semi-final, they did click and it was a landslide victory as I said :)

Watson, even though he didn't score much, was majestic and instrumental in everything Loughgiel done up front.

Love him or hate him, he showed another side to his game yesterday - he may still be immature off the field - but on the field his touch, vision and reading of the game is second to none.

Thought Graffin tried hard for Cushendall ... if only they had a few more with his attitude and determination.

The wee McFadden lad in midfield for LG has some engine covered a lot of ground as he did in the semi.

Also thought big Scullion followed up an excellent Semi-Final with another fine display in the Final.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on September 30, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
personally i think lougheil would have to win another all ireland in my eyes to overtake the great dunloyside.now iknow dunloy never won that elusive all ireland but they beat a lot of great sides and with a little bit of luck could have won a couple.this lougheil side could be just peaking right now and will be hard to stop this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: jftj on September 30, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
personally i think lougheil would have to win another all ireland in my eyes to overtake the great dunloyside.now iknow dunloy never won that elusive all ireland but they beat a lot of great sides and with a little bit of luck could have won a couple.this lougheil side could be just peaking right now and will be hard to stop this year.

Paddy Power seem to think they can do it. Establised as favourites now for the club All-Ireland after yesterdays performance....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2013, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: jftj on September 30, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
personally i think lougheil would have to win another all ireland in my eyes to overtake the great dunloyside.now iknow dunloy never won that elusive all ireland but they beat a lot of great sides and with a little bit of luck could have won a couple.this lougheil side could be just peaking right now and will be hard to stop this year.

Paddy Power seem to think they can do it. Establised as favourites now for the club All-Ireland after yesterdays performance....

I would say it's because they are one of the few to have completed their championship and have a perceived cakewalk in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: jftj on September 30, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Buswhacker on September 29, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
Easily Antrim's best team,surely the doubters and 'aye buts' will have to admit the truth at last. They were never even out of second gear today, they won at a canter.
personally i think lougheil would have to win another all ireland in my eyes to overtake the great dunloyside.now iknow dunloy never won that elusive all ireland but they beat a lot of great sides and with a little bit of luck could have won a couple.this lougheil side could be just peaking right now and will be hard to stop this year.

Paddy Power seem to think they can do it. Establised as favourites now for the club All-Ireland after yesterdays performance....

Probably based on their easy ride to the AI semi-final stage, we'll be lucky to keep the ball pucked out to them.

Expect those odds to lengthen when the other three semi-finalists are known.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
Called it wrong. I thought the dall would have done better but they never turned up. Lgiel didn't get out of second gear, much better team and totally deserved to win. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
That wee run out against Kilmacud Crokes a few weeks back must have done Loughgeil the power of good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2013, 12:29:40 PM
All in all it was just another brick in the wall ....eh SIE?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
 
Quote from: theskull1 link=topic=1347.msg1284327 #msg1284327 date=1380540580
All in all it was just another brick in the wall ....eh SIE?  ::)
;D I was feeling comfortably numb last night to be fair.    :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
St Galls by 24pts
Cloughmills by 15pts
Ballycastle by 13pts
Cushendall by 11pts

maybe some chance that Dunloy might have fared better given the rivalry but I doubt it.

Loughgiel put the rest in their place and did it pretty easy too.  Congratulations to them.

Is there any club that can look at them selves and say next year or the one after we'll compete with them? Again I doubt it.
They've shown that they are a long way ahead of the rest of Antrim. It would take a big improvement or a Loughgeil collapse fo anybody else to win.

What odds 6 in a row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 30, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
St Galls by 24pts
Cloughmills by 15pts
Ballycastle by 13pts
Cushendall by 11pts

maybe some chance that Dunloy might have fared better given the rivalry but I doubt it.

Loughgiel put the rest in their place and did it pretty easy too.  Congratulations to them.

Is there any club that can look at them selves and say next year or the one after we'll compete with them? Again I doubt it.
They've shown that they are a long way ahead of the rest of Antrim. It would take a big improvement or a Loughgeil collapse fo anybody else to win.

What odds 6 in a row?

Its a strange one B&A, Dunloy could and should have beaten LG in the final last year and didnt and LG bounce back this year to win it even more comfortably. If they had lost that one who knows what would have happened this year.

Fact is they won it and won this year at a canter.

All the chat around Ballycastle and St Johns are they any closer to competing than they were this time last year?
Will they be any better next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 30, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
St Galls by 24pts
Cloughmills by 15pts
Ballycastle by 13pts
Cushendall by 11pts

maybe some chance that Dunloy might have fared better given the rivalry but I doubt it.

Loughgiel put the rest in their place and did it pretty easy too.  Congratulations to them.

Is there any club that can look at them selves and say next year or the one after we'll compete with them? Again I doubt it.
They've shown that they are a long way ahead of the rest of Antrim. It would take a big improvement or a Loughgeil collapse fo anybody else to win.

What odds 6 in a row?

Its a strange one B&A, Dunloy could and should have beaten LG in the final last year and didnt and LG bounce back this year to win it even more comfortably. If they had lost that one who knows what would have happened this year.

Fact is they won it and won this year at a canter.

All the chat around Ballycastle and St Johns are they any closer to competing than they were this time last year?
Will they be any better next year?

No because both teams were rightly hammered by the finalist this year who in turn were hammered by Loughgiel.

The fitness of Loughgiel I would put on a par with our footballers of a few years ago, a team needs to be at that level first to compete

The stick work is the same as Dunloy, Cushendall and to a lesser extent Ballycastle and the Johnnies, the better the stick work the less turn overs (which happened a lot yesterday)

The fielding of high ball, Loughgiel have at least 10 lads that were able to field a high ball or low ball under pressure, clean catch and primary possession was giving them the breaks, they also won a lot of dirty/break ball, this isn't by chance

Vision of the passing and spacial awareness was very good, at times yesterday Cushendall (and all the teams they played) were chasing shadows

Disciplined, Loughgiel got one yellow card and that was when there was a chance Cushendall had at running at Loughgiel 25 yards out, house down and all that.

Combine that with good numbers at training and the squad buying into what the manager/coach wants then you have a winning combination

Loughgiel played like a team the other teams played like individuals.

If you want to beat Loughgiel that's the blueprint above, if not don't bother
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Listen to Cody.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Listen to Cody.   ;D

Cody and Kilkenny looked to have the blueprint too but Jimmy Barry Murphy and Davy Fitz produced other blueprints. Always more than 1 way. But Lougheil are the best by far at the minute with the basics that MR says and then the way they play and nobody else seems to have abetter plan. Look at the team and you can't see a weak position. All the rest you could pick 2 or 3 or more weak places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2013, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on September 30, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Listen to Cody.   ;D

Cody and Kilkenny looked to have the blueprint too but Jimmy Barry Murphy and Davy Fitz produced other blueprints. Always more than 1 way. But Lougheil are the best by far at the minute with the basics that MR says and then the way they play and nobody else seems to have abetter plan. Look at the team and you can't see a weak position. All the rest you could pick 2 or 3 or more weak places.


I forgot to say that it's easy to see why they are winning, you don't need to be Cody to see that  ;) but without the players willing to commit then its pointless. Fitz was on saying that he doesn't complicate things, the better team always win. Get them to a level and they will compete
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2013, 10:14:04 AM
Some performance from the team on Saturday.  Couldn't of been prouder watching them show how good they are.

Outstanding performances all over the park, hard to single anyone out for special praise.  Was there a man of the match award on the day?  If so, does anyone know who received it?

Which province are the Ulster champions paired with for the AI semi-finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: pdiddy on September 29, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Blowing a gale here in Loughgiel.  Probably be just as bad if not worse in Ballycastle. Hopefully it won't spoil the game.

My prediction 3-15 to 1-16 for 4 in a row  :)

Great shout.....should never have doubted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 01, 2013, 11:48:27 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2013, 10:14:04 AM
Some performance from the team on Saturday.  Couldn't of been prouder watching them show how good they are.

Outstanding performances all over the park, hard to single anyone out for special praise.  Was there a man of the match award on the day?  If so, does anyone know who received it?

Which province are the Ulster champions paired with for the AI semi-finals?

I think it's Leinster so would expect ballyhale or ballyboden.
Oulart always seem to fall on their own sword not sure if Kilcormac will get that far again.
Ballyhale in Parnell or ballyboden in clones/newry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 01, 2013, 03:32:09 PM
The winners of this ...

http://www.leinstergaa.ie/aib-leinster-club-championships-2012/aib-leinster-club-senior-hurling-championship-2012.2860.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
Just reading Kevin Ryan's comments on the national hurling league re-structure.

Firstly - he is right that it has been done to suit the "bigger counties".
Top teams go up - bottoms teams go down.
Sometimes!

But for me the reality is somewhat different.

The new div1 is a natural top tier - no argument.

Our league consists of teams at roughly our level and will provide competitive games in every round with teams beating each other - that's the hallmark of a good league.
Simply out its a league which represents our level fairly.

Ryan says that not facing the likes of cork will harm Antrim hurling.
Personally I don't think we have any business facing cork at the minute. I don't know why this fascination exists with playing the best teams when we're not at their level at this time.
We probably won't be promoted from our existing league (hopefully will) so let's walk before we can run. And if we are able to face the division1 teams then we will win division2 and earn the right to play them in the semis.

All in all I think the re-structure is sensible and mirrors the natural tiers that exist in inter-county hurling.

And on a side note - Ryan and our county board need to realise that it's not everyone else's job to introduce structures to suit Antrim!
Others will look after themselves and we need to paddle our own canoe!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
lets be honest, how many of us thought that the min you heard cork were relegated that the powers that wouldnt change the leagues to make sure cork stayed in Div1?

i knew it would change and so did everyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
Just reading Kevin Ryan's comments on the national hurling league re-structure.

Firstly - he is right that it has been done to suit the "bigger counties".
Top teams go up - bottoms teams go down.
Sometimes!

But for me the reality is somewhat different.

The new div1 is a natural top tier - no argument.

Our league consists of teams at roughly our level and will provide competitive games in every round with teams beating each other - that's the hallmark of a good league.
Simply out its a league which represents our level fairly.

Ryan says that not facing the likes of cork will harm Antrim hurling.
Personally I don't think we have any business facing cork at the minute. I don't know why this fascination exists with playing the best teams when we're not at their level at this time.
We probably won't be promoted from our existing league (hopefully will) so let's walk before we can run. And if we are able to face the division1 teams then we will win division2 and earn the right to play them in the semis.

All in all I think the re-structure is sensible and mirrors the natural tiers that exist in inter-county hurling.

And on a side note - Ryan and our county board need to realise that it's not everyone else's job to introduce structures to suit Antrim!
Others will look after themselves and we need to paddle our own canoe!

What triggers these changes?

No one believes they're done to be detrimental to antrim but there are two things here:
1) yes that is the top teams but the smaller set of teams means in 1 means a higher standard in 2 and it means better fighting for relegation in 1. Better standard in 2 equals = better for teams at levels like antrim (and various other teams) - i.e. developing teams.
2) every time something happens cork there seem to be people in the top brass of the gaa to assist them.

There is no consideration for developing teams(not just antrim) and it stinks a bit.

The county board are a bti embarassing at this stage. They can't even look after their own house never mind complaining about others but Ryan isn't too far wrong.(again)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
Just reading Kevin Ryan's comments on the national hurling league re-structure.

Firstly - he is right that it has been done to suit the "bigger counties".
Top teams go up - bottoms teams go down.
Sometimes!

But for me the reality is somewhat different.

The new div1 is a natural top tier - no argument.

Our league consists of teams at roughly our level and will provide competitive games in every round with teams beating each other - that's the hallmark of a good league.
Simply out its a league which represents our level fairly.

Ryan says that not facing the likes of cork will harm Antrim hurling.
Personally I don't think we have any business facing cork at the minute. I don't know why this fascination exists with playing the best teams when we're not at their level at this time.
We probably won't be promoted from our existing league (hopefully will) so let's walk before we can run. And if we are able to face the division1 teams then we will win division2 and earn the right to play them in the semis.

All in all I think the re-structure is sensible and mirrors the natural tiers that exist in inter-county hurling.

And on a side note - Ryan and our county board need to realise that it's not everyone else's job to introduce structures to suit Antrim!
Others will look after themselves and we need to paddle our own canoe!

What triggers these changes?

No one believes they're done to be detrimental to antrim but there are two things here:
1) yes that is the top teams but the smaller set of teams means in 1 means a higher standard in 2 and it means better fighting for relegation in 1. Better standard in 2 equals = better for teams at levels like antrim (and various other teams) - i.e. developing teams.
2) every time something happens cork there seem to be people in the top brass of the gaa to assist them.

There is no consideration for developing teams(not just antrim) and it stinks a bit.

The county board are a bti embarassing at this stage. They can't even look after their own house never mind complaining about others but Ryan isn't too far wrong.(again)

Ryan is entirely right, Antrim would learn a lot more playing against a Cork or Limerick than he will against Carlow or Westmeath. IMO to improve you need to be playing these teams more often and learn from it even if it is a tanking once in a while.

What would an appearance of Cork up in the Glens or wherever Antrim are to play their home fixtures do for the profile of the game and bring the youngsters out to see them?

Croke park can polish this up any way they like, but this is the big hurling counties calling the shots and fúck everyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2013, 01:43:51 PM
Ryan is spot on, but is it the most important issue that needs addressing to get Antrim up a standard or two? Id say it wasn't. Our inability to have a sustainable development program for our top U16/18/U21 players to get them used and able to compete with the bigger counties is where it all goes pear shaped. Lots of stakeholders needed to make this a success and I'd have reservation of whether we have anywhere close to the right numbers of passionate hurling men to make it work, but at the outset it needs someone with the credentials to create the vision (one which has some meat on the bones) for starters. At the minute we have individual effort just getting a job done with no real long term plan because the proper long term structures and finance commitment isn't there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 03, 2013, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 03, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2013, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
Just reading Kevin Ryan's comments on the national hurling league re-structure.

Firstly - he is right that it has been done to suit the "bigger counties".
Top teams go up - bottoms teams go down.
Sometimes!

But for me the reality is somewhat different.

The new div1 is a natural top tier - no argument.

Our league consists of teams at roughly our level and will provide competitive games in every round with teams beating each other - that's the hallmark of a good league.
Simply out its a league which represents our level fairly.

Ryan says that not facing the likes of cork will harm Antrim hurling.
Personally I don't think we have any business facing cork at the minute. I don't know why this fascination exists with playing the best teams when we're not at their level at this time.
We probably won't be promoted from our existing league (hopefully will) so let's walk before we can run. And if we are able to face the division1 teams then we will win division2 and earn the right to play them in the semis.

All in all I think the re-structure is sensible and mirrors the natural tiers that exist in inter-county hurling.

And on a side note - Ryan and our county board need to realise that it's not everyone else's job to introduce structures to suit Antrim!
Others will look after themselves and we need to paddle our own canoe!

What triggers these changes?

No one believes they're done to be detrimental to antrim but there are two things here:
1) yes that is the top teams but the smaller set of teams means in 1 means a higher standard in 2 and it means better fighting for relegation in 1. Better standard in 2 equals = better for teams at levels like antrim (and various other teams) - i.e. developing teams.
2) every time something happens cork there seem to be people in the top brass of the gaa to assist them.

There is no consideration for developing teams(not just antrim) and it stinks a bit.

The county board are a bti embarassing at this stage. They can't even look after their own house never mind complaining about others but Ryan isn't too far wrong.(again)

Ryan is entirely right, Antrim would learn a lot more playing against a Cork or Limerick than he will against Carlow or Westmeath. IMO to improve you need to be playing these teams more often and learn from it even if it is a tanking once in a while.

What would an appearance of Cork up in the Glens or wherever Antrim are to play their home fixtures do for the profile of the game and bring the youngsters out to see them?

Croke park can polish this up any way they like, but this is the big hurling counties calling the shots and fúck everyone else.
Championship structures mean they have a chance at the best of Leinster so they aren't entirely *reduced* to playing teams in and around their own level all year. I honestly think it is getting to a stage where it is a no win situation whatever way the structures are sliced up. There have been many, many proposals for varying structures made on this board and whilst your argument is valid, throwing them into the lions den will inevitably result in "we are learning nothing from taking tankings" type arguments after a few heavy beatings. Answers on a postcard!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 03, 2013, 02:06:52 PM
Ryan is entirely right, Antrim would learn a lot more playing against a Cork or Limerick

Its not the job or desire of cork & Limerick to improve Antrim - they want to play against each other for their own benefit. Antrim need to get ourselves up to standard.

than he will against Carlow or Westmeath.

We are not impressive enough against these teams to be able to say that. Thats the reality.


IMO to improve you need to be playing these teams more often and learn from it even if it is a tanking once in a while.
What would an appearance of Cork up in the Glens or wherever Antrim are to play their home fixtures do for the profile of the game and bring the youngsters out to see them?

Again this is all true (except for learning from tankings) but again there seems to be some notion of what would improve Antrim being the most important thing! In the bigger picture we are not the priority so stop expecting these top teams to be nice guys and come the length of Ireland to play us just to be nice guys - they can play better teams next door with bigger crowds.

Croke park can polish this up any way they like, but this is the big hurling counties calling the shots and fúck everyone else.

Such is life. Altho I would say it f**k everyone else - Antrim are still in a competitive league which they wont be favourites to win. No complaints.
If we want to play the big boys - then get promoted.

Otherwise - can we restructure the Antrim leagues so that St Theresa's can play Loughgiel?
After all thats what will improve them?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
There's always begrudgers mate.   On all walks of life.   Ballygalget winning today just doesn't leave us in a semi.   Ulster needs winning. But there's a small bit of hurt after last years semi.  Not wanting to look to far infront.  But we again maybe have something to prove.

Whilst we won handily enough today after a bad start we're a good few steps down from the standard Loughgeil are at. Can't see us trouble Loughgeil, but hope the young lads on the team learn a valuable lesson on where they're at and the gulf in speed of hurling, stickwork etc may stand to them in later years.

Will the Ulster council revert to a 'home and away' arrangement for Ulster club fixtures in the absence of Casement?
I hear you boys have drafted in some outside help from not too far away from ourselves Jc. I also hear probably Armagh 13th october for the semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
I hear you boys have drafted in some outside help from not too far away from ourselves Jc. I also hear probably Armagh 13th october for the semi.

For a boy that hears plenty, unbelievable isn't it you didn't hear how well youse got on in Dublin prior to playing the town?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 03, 2013, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
I hear you boys have drafted in some outside help from not too far away from ourselves Jc. I also hear probably Armagh 13th october for the semi.

For a boy that hears plenty, unbelievable isn't it you didn't hear how well youse got on in Dublin prior to playing the town?  ;)
My ears were ringing from pink floyd music.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 03, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
Why do the Cushendall posters on here never post after a Championship defeat ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 03, 2013, 10:44:21 PM
In fairness the shams only found the internet a few years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Ya only post when you're winning, post when you're winning!! ya only post when you're winning

I should only post on the football thread ffs :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2013, 06:15:25 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 03, 2013, 10:44:21 PM
In fairness the shams only found the internet a few years ago.
we only got electric in glenbush 3 years ago.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 04, 2013, 08:05:26 AM
Are there any Sarsfields men on here? Looks like you are destined for Division 1 hurling next year, whats the feelings on that?

Division 2 relegation will be sorted out this wknd. Will St Pauls avoid the drop by beating Carey or will Lambs turn over Sarsfields to maintain their Div 2 status?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 04, 2013, 09:15:56 AM
Its an exciting enough finish to a league thats for sure - all 4 teams in these fixtures have something to play for!

Pity they aren't at the bear pit & st pauls ground - could watch them both at the same time!

It would be a massive blow for either club to be relegated - and how do galls carey & sars view potential div 1?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 04, 2013, 10:12:15 AM
I dont think any of the 3 teams mentioned are strong enough to survive Div one...not enough strength in depth. I have said it already to our club that we need to be at championship level/fitness at start of league in the hope we catch a few teams on the hop and gain enough points early on. That means starting a few months of gym work, strength and conditioning now and then build on fitness at start of year. Otherwise we and any other team going up is going to struggle big time. I still believe teams going up need to 2 years to find their feet but i know that would be a loigistical nightmare unless we extend the number of teams in the division but we have already covered that ground previously on here so lets just see what happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
If we win on Sunday we'll go up to Div 1,

Two two down this year, St Pauls would need to win and Lamhs lose to have a chance Carey are looking to get second place so will be giving St Pauls a hammering I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
There's always begrudgers mate.   On all walks of life.   Ballygalget winning today just doesn't leave us in a semi.   Ulster needs winning. But there's a small bit of hurt after last years semi.  Not wanting to look to far infront.  But we again maybe have something to prove.

Whilst we won handily enough today after a bad start we're a good few steps down from the standard Loughgeil are at. Can't see us trouble Loughgeil, but hope the young lads on the team learn a valuable lesson on where they're at and the gulf in speed of hurling, stickwork etc may stand to them in later years.

Will the Ulster council revert to a 'home and away' arrangement for Ulster club fixtures in the absence of Casement?
I hear you boys have drafted in some outside help from not too far away from ourselves Jc. I also hear probably Armagh 13th october for the semi.

That outside help has been up and down the road on and off for the better part of 10 years now Seamroga, hardly anything new, our backroom staff payroll is still a pittance to yours, but then again you're a big time club compared to us minnows.

Heard at the weekend you were down playing the crokes in Dublin and got beat, must have been the extended panel you gave a run out.  ;)

It was the same day as the AI u-21 final and the Crokes lads I was talking to were surprised you'd went ahead with the friendly considering your county was in an AI final in Thurles.

Dublin club hurling is pretty strong now as Ballyboden tanked us a week later.

Sure we'll get Graham to keep it pucked out to you considering how easy you saw off Cushendall and Ballycastle who're well ahead of us standard wise.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 03, 2013, 07:41:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 30, 2013, 09:20:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
There's always begrudgers mate.   On all walks of life.   Ballygalget winning today just doesn't leave us in a semi.   Ulster needs winning. But there's a small bit of hurt after last years semi.  Not wanting to look to far infront.  But we again maybe have something to prove.

Whilst we won handily enough today after a bad start we're a good few steps down from the standard Loughgeil are at. Can't see us trouble Loughgeil, but hope the young lads on the team learn a valuable lesson on where they're at and the gulf in speed of hurling, stickwork etc may stand to them in later years.

Will the Ulster council revert to a 'home and away' arrangement for Ulster club fixtures in the absence of Casement?
I hear you boys have drafted in some outside help from not too far away from ourselves Jc. I also hear probably Armagh 13th october for the semi.

That outside help has been up and down the road on and off for the better part of 10 years now Seamroga, hardly anything new, our backroom staff payroll is still a pittance to yours, but then again you're a big time club compared to us minnows.

Heard at the weekend you were down playing the crokes in Dublin and got beat, must have been the extended panel you gave a run out.  ;)

It was the same day as the AI u-21 final and the Crokes lads I was talking to were surprised you'd went ahead with the friendly considering your county was in an AI final in Thurles.

Dublin club hurling is pretty strong now as Ballyboden tanked us a week later.



Sure we'll get Graham to keep it pucked out to you considering how easy you saw off Cushendall and Ballycastle who're well ahead of us standard wise.

The third best team in Dublin??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
It was pretty much our first team that played Crokes.  One or two missing through niggling injuries. We should of beaten them, missed a few scorable chances near the end when we had emptied the bench and lost by a point.

Amazed that some people think LG backroom team are on big money or even money at all.  3 or 4 club men (PJ, Dominic, Ciaran, Eddie etc) plus Joe McGurk (ex club player).  In other years Jim Nelson has been involved as a coach, unfortunately his input has been curtailed this year.  No salaries or expenses there.

I'd be the first to admit we had previously 'bought' in the services of outside coaches.  Tommy Stevenson and Joe Cassidy etc.  It never worked, we moved on.

I don't think any supporters or players would underestimate BG.  With Magic back in the mix they always have a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
It was pretty much our first team that played Crokes.  One or two missing through niggling injuries. We should of beaten them, missed a few scorable chances near the end when we had emptied the bench and lost by a point.

Amazed that some people think LG backroom team are on big money or even money at all.  3 or 4 club men (PJ, Dominic, Ciaran, Eddie etc) plus Joe McGurk (ex club player).  In other years Jim Nelson has been involved as a coach, unfortunately his input has been curtailed this year.  No salaries or expenses there.

I'd be the first to admit we had previously 'bought' in the services of outside coaches.  Tommy Stevenson and Joe Cassidy etc.  It never worked, we moved on.

I don't think any supporters or players would underestimate BG.  With Magic back in the mix they always have a chance.

Would need to be awful conditions wind blowing a gale, raining and the pitch to be sticky as fcuk, this would only keep the score down and should ballygalget keep with them through scoring all their frees be within a 2 goal deficit at the end.

A sunny dry day, Ballygalget won't get within 14 points. Don't say any different lads please!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 04, 2013, 12:09:27 PM
Anything different l ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 04, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
It was pretty much our first team that played Crokes.  One or two missing through niggling injuries. We should of beaten them, missed a few scorable chances near the end when we had emptied the bench and lost by a point.

Amazed that some people think LG backroom team are on big money or even money at all.  3 or 4 club men (PJ, Dominic, Ciaran, Eddie etc) plus Joe McGurk (ex club player).  In other years Jim Nelson has been involved as a coach, unfortunately his input has been curtailed this year.  No salaries or expenses there.

I'd be the first to admit we had previously 'bought' in the services of outside coaches.  Tommy Stevenson and Joe Cassidy etc.  It never worked, we moved on.

I don't think any supporters or players would underestimate BG.  With Magic back in the mix they always have a chance.

Would need to be awful conditions wind blowing a gale, raining and the pitch to be sticky as fcuk, this would only keep the score down and should ballygalget keep with them through scoring all their frees be within a 2 goal deficit at the end.

A sunny dry day, Ballygalget won't get within 14 points. Don't say any different lads please!!!!!!!

Magic and a couple of others aside we're a small, light team, a bog of a pitch would probably suit Loughgeil more than us, but it'd only affect the margin, the victors wouldn't be in doubt.

If hassan or Devlin (if he's still at it) are refereeing we'll not get enough frees to be close, merited or otherwise.

It'll be a learning curve for our young lads for the future, theres no expectations being put on this team from anyone in Ballygalget. We need to have the future in mind at this juncture of our development.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.
Who me? I took defeat badly, but alas I don't play anymore and have mellowed out as the years pass by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.
Who me? I took defeat badly, but alas I don't play anymore and have mellowed out as the years pass by.

Have you fcuk, there's nothing worse than losing, christ I won't even let my kids win Monopoly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.

;D ... you're just right ...don't let him away with it.

Ignore the red and white elephant in the room (other wise known as SIE)  ::)
(http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/elephant.jpg)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 04, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2013, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.
Who me? I took defeat badly, but alas I don't play anymore and have mellowed out as the years pass by.

Have you fcuk, there's nothing worse than losing, christ I won't even let my kids win Monopoly

Show me a good loser and Ill show you a loser: Vince Lomabardi

A bad winner now that's a different thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 11:25:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2013, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 04, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
I heard we hurled well in Dublin.   JC.  Your taking MR2s way of playing them down.   Don't for 1 second say you don't expect to win every game that you take the field.

;D ... you're just right ...don't let him away with it.

Ignore the red and white elephant in the room (other wise known as SIE)  ::)
(http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/elephant.jpg)
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
SHOCKING SCENES in Glenariffe in the B u16 hurling final

Belfast Gaels really let themselves down as did some glenshesk players

full scale riot for around 5 minutes, match abandoned

St Johns beat in A final by a sharp ballycastle, but these young Johnnies will be back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 05:19:53 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
SHOCKING SCENES in Glenariffe in the B u16 hurling final

Belfast Gaels really let themselves down as did some glenshesk players

full scale riot for around 5 minutes, match abandoned

St Johns beat in A final by a sharp ballycastle, but these young Johnnies will be back

With hatchet's?

Don't be labling all Belfast Gaels ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2013, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
SHOCKING SCENES in Glenariffe in the B u16 hurling final

Belfast Gaels really let themselves down as did some glenshesk players

full scale riot for around 5 minutes, match abandoned

St Johns beat in A final by a sharp ballycastle, but these young Johnnies will be back

I heard a female photographer got head butted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 05, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 05:19:53 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
SHOCKING SCENES in Glenariffe in the B u16 hurling final

Belfast Gaels really let themselves down as did some glenshesk players

full scale riot for around 5 minutes, match abandoned

St Johns beat in A final by a sharp ballycastle, but these young Johnnies will be back

With hatchet's?

Don't be labling all Belfast Gaels ffs

Think he means the amalgamation team 'Belfast Gaels' MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 05:59:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 05, 2013, 05:52:41 PM
Ha ha, milltown ye fcukin wingnut. The team was called Belfast Gaels.

St Pauls & Sarsfields.

Ah me knows now. Home fixture but playing it in Ballycastle, what's that all about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
though if the cap fits MR2 !!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah they were sarsfields, st pauls and were called Belfast gaels

they were using their hurls as hatchets

ref should have had 2 of them off before half time

glenshesk were well in front and match was near over but now abandoned

Joe Edwards witnessed the whole episode from the sideline and was asking names of certain mentors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 06:03:05 PM
are you drunk MR2 ??? another general labelling along with chip eaters apparently for the McCoeey bastards I think they were being called.

on a serious note it was pretty horrific, I cant recall much worse, how nobody was seriously injured is beyond belief
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 06:03:05 PM
are you drunk MR2 ??? another general labelling along with chip eaters apparently for the McCoeey b**tards I think they were being called.

on a serious note it was pretty horrific, I cant recall much worse, how nobody was seriously injured is beyond belief

No not drunk, read it wrong, bit like you being a Bredagh man but not really, strange you'd be down watching it ;)

Joe would know half the mentors surely, him being a St Paul's man and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Anyone know who the mentors were?
Altho that's not to say they were to blame!
Won't comment as obviously not there.
Glad nobody seriously injured.
No good news to be hearing at any time.

It was loughgiel a fault anyway. 😜
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 05, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
lets just say I was eye in the stands for johnnies game v the town 

yeah he should in fairness he looked a little shell shocked himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Anyone know who the mentors were?
Altho that's not to say they were to blame!
Won't comment as obviously not there.
Glad nobody seriously injured.
No good news to be hearing at any time.

It was loughgiel a fault anyway. 😜
Probably.   ;D

I heard the head butt on the photographer was horrific.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Anyone know who the mentors were?
Altho that's not to say they were to blame!
Won't comment as obviously not there.
Glad nobody seriously injured.
No good news to be hearing at any time.

It was loughgiel a fault anyway.
Probably.   ;D

I heard the head butt on the photographer was horrific.

Is that the wee tasty one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Anyone know who the mentors were?
Altho that's not to say they were to blame!
Won't comment as obviously not there.
Glad nobody seriously injured.
No good news to be hearing at any time.

It was loughgiel a fault anyway.
Probably.   ;D

I heard the head butt on the photographer was horrific.

Is that the wee tasty one?
aye. If what I'm being told is true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 06:23:23 PM
Anyone know who the mentors were?
Altho that's not to say they were to blame!
Won't comment as obviously not there.
Glad nobody seriously injured.
No good news to be hearing at any time.

It was loughgiel a fault anyway.
Probably.   ;D

I heard the head butt on the photographer was horrific.

Is that the wee tasty one?
aye. If what I'm being told is true.

Bad craic, ya can't go headbutting people ffs, must have been some nut job ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
Was talking to someone at it and he said it was the worst he has seen on a pitch, players supporters and mentors all fighting on the pitch. As for the young Belfast Gaels player that head butted the female photographer........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 07:57:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
Was talking to someone at it and he said it was the worst he has seen on a pitch, players supporters and mentors all fighting on the pitch. As for the young Belfast Gaels player that head butted the female photographer........

A f**king joke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

Under 16's ffs, too many e numbers, the amount of games where the lads at that age get carried away is nuts. It just takes one thing to kick off. Ya need to blow for every challenge to ensure there is no niggles going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

What just all of them in general?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

What just all of them in general?

Nearly as bad as Armagh men ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

What just all of them in general?
Just MR2.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

Under 16's ffs, too many e numbers, the amount of games where the lads at that age get carried away is nuts. It just takes one thing to kick off. Ya need to blow for every challenge to ensure there is no niggles going on
You expect people on the sidelines to have a bit more sense. Isn't that part of their remit in juvenile games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

What just all of them in general?
Just MR2.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

Under 16's ffs, too many e numbers, the amount of games where the lads at that age get carried away is nuts. It just takes one thing to kick off. Ya need to blow for every challenge to ensure there is no niggles going on
You expect people on the sidelines to have a bit more sense. Isn't that part of their remit in juvenile games.

They are the ones usually egging them on ffs, head da balls, I canny wait to hear who's involved and whats done about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 10:05:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:48:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

What just all of them in general?
Just MR2.

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 05, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
If the BBC get any coverage it will be front and centre on bulletins tomorrow.

McCooey's should be ashamed of themselves.

Under 16's ffs, too many e numbers, the amount of games where the lads at that age get carried away is nuts. It just takes one thing to kick off. Ya need to blow for every challenge to ensure there is no niggles going on
You expect people on the sidelines to have a bit more sense. Isn't that part of their remit in juvenile games.

They are the ones usually egging them on ffs, head da balls, I canny wait to hear who's involved and whats done about it
You've been spending too much time in north Antrim.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Worker on October 06, 2013, 10:30:44 AM
Whoever headbutted the female reporter deserves a lifeban.

A bad reflection on all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2013, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 11:01:06 AM
"The story goes".....A bit of argy bargy, young lad from Sarsfields steps back and pulls across Glenshesk lad's head. Glenshesk lad's da runs on and whacks Sarsfields yound lad. A member of an infamous Sarsfields family runs on and whacks him. Madness after that. The camerawoman was apparently done by one of the aforementioned infamous family.

Yeah that's about the height of what I heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 06, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Oh dear HS! Assuming that's all true:

I suppose we'll sit back and wait on the repercussions but I believe that family barely even speak to each other!

Not remotely defending (obviously) the mentors actions nor the players - but the parent that jumped the wire is just as (if not more) guilty and and to blame.

An adult entering the field to strike a juvenile?
The initial strike can be dealt with using the ref & the rules - this action precipitates the rest of the events - which again I am not defending one bit.

This parent has a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 06, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Oh dear HS! Assuming that's all true:

I suppose we'll sit back and wait on the repercussions but I believe that family barely even speak to each other!

Not remotely defending (obviously) the mentors actions nor the players - but the parent that jumped the wire is just as (if not more) guilty and and to blame.

An adult entering the field to strike a juvenile?
The initial strike can be dealt with using the ref & the rules - this action precipitates the rest of the events - which again I am not defending one bit.

This parent has a lot to answer for.

In my day ya really didn't see too many parents turning up for the games, the obvious ones were of course club men who's sons played, outside of that there wasn't many there, now ffs ya can't get them off the line, and in most cases never played the game but are telling the manager what to do!!! Telling their kids to 'get him son'!!

My dad turned up for a few games, wasn't a Gaa man at all, got him to go to a football semi final once, a fight broke out, I'm in the middle of it, as I got in the car to go home my dad hit me a clip round the ear for fighting!! That's the way it was

All clubs have a code of conduct for supporters at games, nothing is ever done to these parents when they break those rules, through maybe fear of that parent taking Johnny away to another club!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 06, 2013, 12:02:49 PM
Indeed MR2 and given the way parents & kids are nowadays a solicitor on the end of the phone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 06, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Oh dear HS! Assuming that's all true:

I suppose we'll sit back and wait on the repercussions but I believe that family barely even speak to each other!

Not remotely defending (obviously) the mentors actions nor the players - but the parent that jumped the wire is just as (if not more) guilty and and to blame.

An adult entering the field to strike a juvenile?
The initial strike can be dealt with using the ref & the rules - this action precipitates the rest of the events - which again I am not defending one bit.

This parent has a lot to answer for.

In my day ya really didn't see too many parents turning up for the games, the obvious ones were of course club men who's sons played, outside of that there wasn't many there, now ffs ya can't get them off the line, and in most cases never played the game but are telling the manager what to do!!! Telling their kids to 'get him son'!!

My dad turned up for a few games, wasn't a Gaa man at all, got him to go to a football semi final once, a fight broke out, I'm in the middle of it, as I got in the car to go home my dad hit me a clip round the ear for fighting!! That's the way it was

All clubs have a code of conduct for supporters at games, nothing is ever done to these parents when they break those rules, through maybe fear of that parent taking Johnny away to another club!!
If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2013, 03:50:44 PM

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven
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That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
And the young city lads got awarded the cup. As Glenshesk didn't agree to a replay.  Are you f--king serious????  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 06, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
Birr getting hammered by 8 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2013, 04:21:25 PM
And the young city lads got awarded the cup. As Glenshesk didn't agree to a replay.  Are you f--king serious????  ???
unreal. As I've said before, the county set up is a joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
Portaferry   1-8   3-18   Loughgiel Shamrocks   

Ballycran   8-16   1-11   St John's GAC   

Ruairí Óg   3-11   1-14   Ballygalget   

O`Donovan Rossa GAC  2-12   5-21   Mac Uilin CLG

Nice wee win for a much changed shamrocks team today down on the peninsula. Four starting from the championship winning team of last week. Some big scores in the other matches.

Ballycran and Ballycastle fairly hitting the onion bag.  :o

I hear the ref in the Rossa match wasn't up to much.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
Portaferry   1-8   3-18   Loughgiel Shamrocks   

Ballycran   8-16   1-11   St John's GAC   

Ruairí Óg   3-11   1-14   Ballygalget   

O`Donovan Rossa GAC  2-12   5-21   Mac Uilin CLG

Nice wee win for a much changed shamrocks team today down on the peninsula. Four starting from the championship winning team of last week. Some big scores in the other matches.

Ballycran and Ballycastle fairly hitting the onion bag.  :o

Wee bit late in the year for that type of scoring, pointless games unless you're fighting to win league (no one cares about that) or relegation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 05:51:17 PM
Portaferry   1-8   3-18   Loughgiel Shamrocks   

Ballycran   8-16   1-11   St John's GAC   

Ruairí Óg   3-11   1-14   Ballygalget   

O`Donovan Rossa GAC  2-12   5-21   Mac Uilin CLG

Nice wee win for a much changed shamrocks team today down on the peninsula. Four starting from the championship winning team of last week. Some big scores in the other matches.

Ballycran and Ballycastle fairly hitting the onion bag.  :o

Wee bit late in the year for that type of scoring, pointless games unless you're fighting to win league (no one cares about that) or relegation
Ahoghill beat Burt 2-14 to 1-10. Well done to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2013, 03:50:44 PM

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.
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Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
And if some bully boy halfwit ran on to the field and chinned my kid, I'd be over the fence after him.

And he's my mate so I'll be over the fence after you. ..... and I'll bring my big mate. .....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2013, 03:50:44 PM

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.

Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need
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Ridiculous yes your right, I don't care if I had I kid out there and someone pulled hard on his head. That's an action that could lead to serious long term injury or even be fatal.  these are 15 , 16 year olds (bordering on grown ups)I have never went over a fence in my life and hope I never will . Fair play to anyone on here who could show restraint in those circumstances.  What if the ref didn't see and the offending sc**bag walks. I only mentioned as some people seem to vilifying the parent more than the p***k that pulled on someone's head isn't getting the same airtime
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2013, 03:50:44 PM

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.

Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need

Ridiculous yes your right, I don't care if I had I kid out there and someone pulled hard on his head. That's an action that could lead to serious long term injury or even be fatal.  these are 15 , 16 year olds (bordering on grown ups)I have never went over a fence in my life and hope I never will . Fair play to anyone on here who could show restraint in those circumstances.  What if the ref didn't see and the offending sc**bag walks. I only mentioned as some people seem to vilifying the parent more than the p***k that pulled on someone's head isn't getting the same airtime[/quote]

No one is saying that, jumping over the fence is wrong, it's been done (lad getting hit) and jumping the fence won't make any difference. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And if the referee didn't see it doesn't mean the person walks, I'd imagine there was umpires and lines men there along with wee Joe on the line. The parent running on and slapping a 16 year old is as big a sc**bag as the thug who hit the lad with the stick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 06, 2013, 08:11:49 PM
Another bad row today in sarsfields game. Few sent off I'm led to believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault  :o
you'd nearly think Rossa were shrinking violets when it came to this sort of thing Pdiddy. It would appear some of us have longer memories then others. best to let it go ......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault  :o
you'd nearly think Rossa were shrinking violets when it came to this sort of thing Pdiddy. It would appear some of us have longer memories then others. best to let it go ......

Yes we all have it and we all have selected memories of our own players pulling on players from behind, what happens on the pitch should be between those players. People coming on from the sidelines is wrong every time, an adult coming on to the pitch could do serious harm also NAH could even kill someone!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault  :o
you'd nearly think Rossa were shrinking violets when it came to this sort of thing Pdiddy. It would appear some of us have longer memories then others. best to let it go ......



Yes we all have it and we all have selected memories of our own players pulling on players from behind, what happens on the pitch should be between those players. People coming on from the sidelines is wrong every time, an adult coming on to the pitch could do serious harm also NAH could even kill someone!!

I didn't go on to no pitch. I don't know the man who did. My guess is this is the first time he done anything like that. My guess is when he went to watch his son play in a hurling final and what he observed wasn't hurling but someone inflicting G BH on a part of the body that could result in something much worse than a broken bone. Chances are he's like the most of us that family is much precious even than hurling and he lost it. Should he have done it NO. But sometimes you witness something that leads you to take complete leave of your senses. Protecting your young is something that is inherently built into us and imm not going to judge him to harshly. Sure everything worked out fine for the clown who started it. Apparently he's away with a cup and maybe no ref report on him if it wasn't seen. Imm only going on hard stations report anyway, maybe it didn't happen like that but I can sympathise with the kids parent got reacting the way he did even it it was wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

You will be grand,btdtgtt reckons you are both better than the teams at the bottom of Div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

I think we won't have the depth of squad to make any impact, would hope to beat yous and maybe Glenariff, and build the following year, would need to improve big time and start doing strength and conditioning work right away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

I think we won't have the depth of squad to make any impact, would hope to beat yous and maybe Glenariff, and build the following year, would need to improve big time and start doing strength and conditioning work right away

If Portaferry beat Rossa, and they should, we will be down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on October 06, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
What if the ref didn't see and the offending sc**bag walks.

In this case CCC will hold an investigation and the culprit will be suspended. That's already happened this season...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 06, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 06, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Nothing you boys haven't done before....

Ffs let it go.  As sie would say is all loughgiels fault  :o
you'd nearly think Rossa were shrinking violets when it came to this sort of thing Pdiddy. It would appear some of us have longer memories then others. best to let it go ......



Yes we all have it and we all have selected memories of our own players pulling on players from behind, what happens on the pitch should be between those players. People coming on from the sidelines is wrong every time, an adult coming on to the pitch could do serious harm also NAH could even kill someone!!

I didn't go on to no pitch. I don't know the man who did. My guess is this is the first time he done anything like that. My guess is when he went to watch his son play in a hurling final and what he observed wasn't hurling but someone inflicting G BH on a part of the body that could result in something much worse than a broken bone. Chances are he's like the most of us that family is much precious even than hurling and he lost it. Should he have done it NO. But sometimes you witness something that leads you to take complete leave of your senses. Protecting your young is something that is inherently built into us and imm not going to judge him to harshly. Sure everything worked out fine for the clown who started it. Apparently he's away with a cup and maybe no ref report on him if it wasn't seen. Imm only going on hard stations report anyway, maybe it didn't happen like that but I can sympathise with the kids parent got reacting the way he did even it it was wrong

That's a lot of guess work NAH, I could guess that this clampit does this every week I could also guess he is gives abuse every week to other team players referees ffs, I can guess that as like you I don't know him nor do I know HS's report is accurate.

A lot of 'jumping' to conclusions. Protecting your son after he was hit is impossible retaliating and smacking a 16 or younger lad is also GBH you can see that? Tell me you know it's wrong on every level please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Whatever mr2
Your right a grown up striking a sixteen your old is wrong. But stop trying to build a picture where this sixteen year old was standing minding his own business. We have already established the way he reacted was wrong so stop repeating it. I haven't seen you write once condemning the player and his part in the whole incident. If we listened to you he is the only one hard done by here. Take the blinkers off and realise when someone behaves the way he did it's going to escalate into something worse.  I've tried to make you see that when it comes to an emotional parent then rational goes out the window. So keep on deflecting away from the sc**bag here I don't care what age he is.
Ask someone what's the lowest thing you could do on a hurling field and his action is the answer you will get most

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2013, 06:24:52 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 06, 2013, 03:50:44 PM

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.

Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need

Ridiculous yes your right, I don't care if I had I kid out there and someone pulled hard on his head. That's an action that could lead to serious long term injury or even be fatal.  these are 15 , 16 year olds (bordering on grown ups)I have never went over a fence in my life and hope I never will . Fair play to anyone on here who could show restraint in those circumstances.  What if the ref didn't see and the offending sc**bag walks. I only mentioned as some people seem to vilifying the parent more than the p***k that pulled on someone's head isn't getting the same airtime

No one is saying that, jumping over the fence is wrong, it's been done (lad getting hit) and jumping the fence won't make any difference. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And if the referee didn't see it doesn't mean the person walks, I'd imagine there was umpires and lines men there along with wee Joe on the line. The parent running on and slapping a 16 year old is as big a sc**bag as the thug who hit the lad with the stick
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I have condemned it, I called him a thug, which thug is the worst?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 07, 2013, 12:11:17 AM
Went to Glenariffe yesterday to watch the Ballycastle match and when I got there heard the news of what had just happened. From talking to some people who had seen it all the father you are talking about on here didn't jump the fence he was a Glenshesk mentor so regardless of who had got hit he had every right to go on to protect his injured player, it just happened to be his son. And he also claims to not have hit one of their players so we will see what comes out in the wash.

Also note Belfast Gaels were already down to 14 men and there were others close to being sent off too so lets not be sidetracked here about this two wrongs don't make a right nonsense some posters here are going on about, Belfast Gaels were the aggressors yesterday who were striking opposition players with their sticks. Heres hoping the clubs involved in that amalgamation are severely punished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 07, 2013, 08:36:48 AM
How many people on here were actually at the Belfast Gaels match and can confirm exactly what happened? NONE. Probably best to stop putting 2 and 2 together and getting 19 until all the facts are known.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

You will be grand,btdtgtt reckons you are both better than the teams at the bottom of Div 1.

I beg your pardon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

You will be grand,btdtgtt reckons you are both better than the teams at the bottom of Div 1.

I beg your pardon?

Sorry I misread your post back in August, I thought you had said they were better but you were actually questioning if they were better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on October 07, 2013, 12:11:17 AM
Went to Glenariffe yesterday to watch the Ballycastle match and when I got there heard the news of what had just happened. From talking to some people who had seen it all the father you are talking about on here didn't jump the fence he was a Glenshesk mentor so regardless of who had got hit he had every right to go on to protect his injured player, it just happened to be his son. And he also claims to not have hit one of their players so we will see what comes out in the wash.

Also note Belfast Gaels were already down to 14 men and there were others close to being sent off too so lets not be sidetracked here about this two wrongs don't make a right nonsense some posters here are going on about, Belfast Gaels were the aggressors yesterday who were striking opposition players with their sticks. Heres hoping the clubs involved in that amalgamation are severely punished.

So you didn't see it also?

The topic went off on a tangent about people running on to the pitch and was it the right thing to do or not? and how (I feel) it would only escalate the problem. No one said they were there, no one was adding 2 and 2 together.

There were plenty of officials there to make the right calls and hopefully get all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2013, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 06, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 06, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
On a more positive note.......... us and galls promoted, unless we have the usual restructuring to accommodate particular clubs. Think we both have our work cut out to survive next season.

You will be grand,btdtgtt reckons you are both better than the teams at the bottom of Div 1.

I beg your pardon?

Sorry I misread your post back in August, I thought you had said they were better but you were actually questioning if they were better

Oh right gotcha.
Yes to be honest I think although Rossa have been pathetic they have more to offer than both the promoted teams (Galls mainly due to their football commitments).
And Glenarriffe have proved they are able to take points in the top division - I dont think sarsfields can.


I agree with Mr2 on this thing - we all understand the emotions of someone striking with the hurl and the potential for serious harm. Especially with family involved. But that doesnt give anyone the right to enter the field and strike a player - much less a juvenile. Yes we understand how it can happen - it just cant be defended and it will make the situation worse 100% of the time.
Can the actions of an U16 be compared to those of an adult?
Shameful if the cup was presented to a team that hadnt won especially in these circumstances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: low ball on October 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
i seen the incident on saturday between sars/st pauls v glenshesk there was two strikes on the head from 2 different players  the second glens player was laying on the ground when a player from sars/st pauls  got off the bench and ran at full speed and kicked the glens player a really ugly kick to the back of his head when he was laying on his back, it really blew off after that i think the player that kicked the player on head was sent off in first half shocking scenes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: low ball on October 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
i seen the incident on saturday between sars/st pauls v glenshesk there was two strikes on the head from 2 different players  the second glens player was laying on the ground when a player from sars/st pauls  got off the bench and ran at full speed and kicked the glens player a really ugly kick to the back of his head when he was laying on his back, it really blew off after that i think the player that kicked the player on head was sent off in first half shocking scenes

Sure there only kids ( yeah right )and in line with mt2 and hs we should only dwell on the response and not the action. The parent that reacted to that small misdemeanour is the only one to be lambasted on this thread. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on October 07, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Whatever mr2
Your right a grown up striking a sixteen your old is wrong. But stop trying to build a picture where this sixteen year old was standing minding his own business. We have already established the way he reacted was wrong so stop repeating it. I haven't seen you write once condemning the player and his part in the whole incident. If we listened to you he is the only one hard done by here. Take the blinkers off and realise when someone behaves the way he did it's going to escalate into something worse.  I've tried to make you see that when it comes to an emotional parent then rational goes out the window. So keep on deflecting away from the sc**bag here I don't care what age he is.
Ask someone what's the lowest thing you could do on a hurling field and his action is the answer you will get most

Are you for real???
What happens on a pitch between opposing teamsn and players is for officials to judge, then clubs can assess conduct of their own players as they see fit!
It is absolutely unacceptable for any parent to react this way, regardless of incident! Stop trying to justify this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 11:43:12 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 07, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 06, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
Whatever mr2
Your right a grown up striking a sixteen your old is wrong. But stop trying to build a picture where this sixteen year old was standing minding his own business. We have already established the way he reacted was wrong so stop repeating it. I haven't seen you write once condemning the player and his part in the whole incident. If we listened to you he is the only one hard done by here. Take the blinkers off and realise when someone behaves the way he did it's going to escalate into something worse.  I've tried to make you see that when it comes to an emotional parent then rational goes out the window. So keep on deflecting away from the sc**bag here I don't care what age he is.
Ask someone what's the lowest thing you could do on a hurling field and his action is the answer you will get most

Are you for real???
What happens on a pitch between opposing teamsn and players is for officials to judge, then clubs can assess conduct of their own players as they see fit!
It is absolutely unacceptable for any parent to react this way, regardless of incident! Stop trying to justify this!

Have you read my post I've already said it was wrong, I would say that the man that did it knows it was wrong and maybe even regrets his actions. It ceased to become a hurling match when pulling round the head and sent off players running on and kicking in the head started. Are those responsible actions for 16 year olds. Imm not defending the parents action but I would find it hard to contain myself if some animals where getting tore into my son like that.  If your going to follow things to the letter of the law like it should then he should have waited and called the police. The whole thing is a sad state of affairs and there where post concentrating on the parent who should be witnessing this and acting with calm and resolve.

None is going to change my stance on this so stop trying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.

Happy days.  I'd heard that it was Athletic Grounds for our game but I'd prefer a trip to Dungiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.

Bit of a surprise there?
Did the clubs have any input or views on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: low ball on October 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
i seen the incident on saturday between sars/st pauls v glenshesk there was two strikes on the head from 2 different players  the second glens player was laying on the ground when a player from sars/st pauls  got off the bench and ran at full speed and kicked the glens player a really ugly kick to the back of his head when he was laying on his back, it really blew off after that i think the player that kicked the player on head was sent off in first half shocking scenes

Sure there only kids ( yeah right )and in line with mt2 and hs we should only dwell on the response and not the action. The parent that reacted to that small misdemeanour is the only one to be lambasted on this thread.

I said he was a thug, seriously???? Are they adults now? In any occasion be it this or the any other incident the person who comes in and retaliates is always going to escalate it. I remember a match at casement were a player stepped back and drew on a player across the knee, that player was out for a year or so, nobody jumped the fence that day. Maybe his da wasn't there or his dad thought better of jumping the fence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.
Shamrocks on 2nd at 3:30. So half 11 mass. Pint in the pound and gone. That it SIE??  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
Wish the c.dall lads would come back.  I promise not to say much  :o It's  odd without them. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: low ball on October 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
i seen the incident on saturday between sars/st pauls v glenshesk there was two strikes on the head from 2 different players  the second glens player was laying on the ground when a player from sars/st pauls  got off the bench and ran at full speed and kicked the glens player a really ugly kick to the back of his head when he was laying on his back, it really blew off after that i think the player that kicked the player on head was sent off in first half shocking scenes

Sure there only kids ( yeah right )and in line with mt2 and hs we should only dwell on the response and not the action. The parent that reacted to that small misdemeanour is the only one to be lambasted on this thread.

I said he was a thug, seriously???? Are they adults now? In any occasion be it this or the any other incident the person who comes in and retaliates is always going to escalate it. I remember a match at casement were a player stepped back and drew on a player across the knee, that player was out for a year or so, nobody jumped the fence that day. Maybe his da wasn't there or his dad thought better of jumping the fence

Turns out the parent didn't jump the fence, anyway let's just agree to differ on it
As you say let's hope all offenders get there medicine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 07, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
heard about this game yday and couldnt believe it. disgracfully stuff all round.

also head butting a female reporter? big brave man who did that. lifetime ban needed for the cretin who did this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 07, 2013, 01:36:33 PM
Thankfully these incidents seem to be becoming fewer.

However we need to make sure the procedures are followed and that the suspensions stand up.

At the end of the day what else can be done, these incidents will occur from time to time, its how they are dealt with is the key.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 07, 2013, 02:00:43 PM
Any player who pulls over someones head (and connects) in an act of anger or kicks someone in the head while on the ground should be banned for life even at U-16. One day someone will get killed on a pitch and years of glossing over these incidents will be to blame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.
Shamrocks on 2nd at 3:30. So half 11 mass. Pint in the pound and gone. That it SIE??  ;)
something like that SG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 07, 2013, 02:35:15 PM
If they had dealt with the Ray Matthews incident properly and with some fckn intelligence then this incident would be a fore gone conclusion, wee J will fudge this and get away with it, TCAPost should give everything the have to the proper authorities and that's not the gaa and crucify all in involved and then that will be enough precident for any individual or club that thinks this behaviour is the norm. Let's hope PON the ref does the right thing and ignore that wee weasel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 02:58:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 07, 2013, 01:36:33 PM
Thankfully these incidents seem to be becoming fewer.

However we need to make sure the procedures are followed and that the suspensions stand up.

At the end of the day what else can be done, these incidents will occur from time to time, its how they are dealt with is the key.
welcome back nag. I suppose your hardly wanting to talk much about final.  No harm intended. Am looking your view, Was it being so young, management? I've spoke with few dall men and got few different answers.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 03:03:29 PM
A player from Lamhs had his half his finger removed due a clash in the intermediate game a few weeks back, he'd slid into a lad who struck the ball and his finger, it didn't look bad at the time until he passed us and his finger was sitting at a right angle!!

Bad craic, shows you how close you can be to losing something and this was an accident, no dads run on to the pitch either ;)

I'm sure NAG will tell you that they were outclassed and didn't get up to the required standard to win or challenge during the game. I'd say fitness and awareness of the opposition was far better. Isn't much else to say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 07, 2013, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 02:58:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 07, 2013, 01:36:33 PM
Thankfully these incidents seem to be becoming fewer.

However we need to make sure the procedures are followed and that the suspensions stand up.

At the end of the day what else can be done, these incidents will occur from time to time, its how they are dealt with is the key.
welcome back nag. I suppose your hardly wanting to talk much about final.  No harm intended. Am looking your view, Was it being so young, management? I've spoke with few dall men and got few different answers.

Well share the answers you have been given so far then?

I would have thought a combination of all of the those factors, coupled with having played a tough game the week before and coming up against a team who have high levels of confidence and are in the winning groove.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 03:03:29 PM
A player from Lamhs had his half his finger removed due a clash in the intermediate game a few weeks back, he'd slid into a lad who struck the ball and his finger, it didn't look bad at the time until he passed us and his finger was sitting at a right angle!!

Bad craic, shows you how close you can be to losing something and this was an accident, no dads run on to the pitch either ;)

I'm sure NAG will tell you that they were outclassed and didn't get up to the required standard to win or challenge during the game. I'd say fitness and awareness of the opposition was far better. Isn't much else to say

Do you know if the other lad was using a Cultec? We've had a few lads get bad hand injuries from Cultecs, no malice just shattered bones that needed wiring etc, etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 03:14:08 PM
Not sure Johnney, Clooney lad who struck him, think there is a Clooney gael here on the board. Would worry about that, wonder what the stats on that would be? Again this was a challenge that wouldn't have merited a whistle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 03:14:08 PM
Not sure Johnney, Clooney lad who struck him, think there is a Clooney gael here on the board. Would worry about that, wonder what the stats on that would be? Again this was a challenge that wouldn't have merited a whistle

Accidents will happen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 07, 2013, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
Ulster club semis are a double header at Owenbeg this Sunday.

Happy days.  I'd heard that it was Athletic Grounds for our game but I'd prefer a trip to Dungiven.

Owenbeg is a massive pitch, grass needs cut though, its too long at the minute for hurling. The space is a forwards dream . Will suit Loughgeil and Coleraine's 2 man full forward line also against Creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team
Their half time team talk was overheard and went along the lines of "pull whether they've the ball or not."

This was after they smashed Joey's hand to sh*te. The ref did nothing about it. Maybe he had an off day, let's hope so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 07, 2013, 07:42:33 PM
By listening to the lads, I'd say taking GD,s approach to appointment of refs this year he will not get another game, and from what I've been told it would be sufficient punishment on his poor performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team

They were on Sunday.  A few first teamer's missing and a few of the ones who were playing were out for destruction.  From talking to a few of our boys after the game it sounds like a few of the Ports were nursing hangovers and had an attitude that said they didn't give a f**k.  A joke that No.6 never saw red. 

The next time Ports visit Loughgiel I'd bet he's one who'll cry off. Coward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 08:05:56 PM
 ;D we know the Ref didn't hit him MR2   But he let a player batter him 4/5 times without any action.  And the lad finally done what he has looked to have set out to do.    Pointless game.  Can't see the reason behind it.  Joey was only 1 of 4 lads from championship team to play.  And is now out of ulster championship because the ref couldn't keep up with play to actually see what was going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 07, 2013, 07:42:33 PM
By listening to the lads, I'd say taking GD,s approach to appointment of refs this year he will not get another game, and from what I've been told it would be sufficient punishment on his poor performance.

Bad refereeing performances like this lead to rows so often on a pitch.  How many times do you get hit late / dirty before you have to start looking after yourself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team
Their half time team talk was overheard and went along the lines of "pull whether they've the ball or not."

This was after they smashed Joey's hand to sh*te. The ref did nothing about it. Maybe he had an off day, let's hope so.

I've overheard plenty of 'pull on the ball whether they have it or not' over the years, your own club included ffs, stop with the whiter than white attitude. There is always a muppet on the line or a player that will say daft things like that, it's not done that much at senior level, but it happens, heard and seen it as a player, and the same as a referee, I've pulled a few managers over their behaviour during a game.

Playing ports there was only one lad that I'd would have said was intent on giving the lash, he was on his own though, ginger haired lad NAG? last game I done he was playing for the reserves at fb. Don't you be jumping the fence or encouraging someone to break his hand now when the visit next year ;)

Joey should hopefully recover for the semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 08:05:56 PM
;D we know the Ref didn't hit him MR2   But he let a player batter him 4/5 times without any action.  And the lad finally done what he has looked to have set out to do.    Pointless game.  Can't see the reason behind it.  Joey was only 1 of 4 lads from championship team to play.  And is now out of ulster championship because the ref couldn't keep up with play to actually see what was going on

It's a bummer, pointless game for yous, Ports needed a win to stay up, not pointless for them. 

The Lamhs player lost his finger in a match, accident but serious injury, a lad from Gorts lost his testical in a match this year from being struck by the ball, all accidents. Joey won't be the first to get a whack on the hand and have it broke and he won't be the last, had the referee booked him after the first couple of hits the lad would probably get him the next couple. 

Like I've said we could bring up players from all clubs that have 'done' someone during a game, lets not get into that eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
Just saw this on Antrim website


Name : Parent 06 October 2013
I would understand that there will be a comprehensive investigation into what happened on Saturday in Glenariffe.
We should be grateful that this serious incident did not have a more serious outcome. Comment, opinion etc is one thing and needs to be measured so that we can learn to deal with this sub culture of violence. That behoves us all as adults and goes beyond the apportionment of blame , ridicule and sanctions. The duty of care for children in these situations is paramount and a gross breach of that was in evidence on Saturday.
Fortunately Joe Edwards was there to witness first hand the appalling scenes.
It is in that context that I hope the investigative process in some way helps to guide us towards respect and tolerance for one another. Sport and the GAA is a great medium and a learning process to inculcate values of honesty,integrity, tolerance - through wining and losing.
I am extremely disappointed to read the postings of Milltown Row on the GAA Discussion Board Antrim Hurling thread.
What I glean is that he is a referee, maybe a teacher but the nature and content of his postings reflects poorly on both those positions of responsibility.
I would suggest that his contributions with regard to this incident and the derogatory way he refers to fellow GAA members be noted by the appropriate authority within Antrim GAA.
I have the utmost respect for the work and the good work done by refeeres. They are not responsible for a culture where this violent behaviour seems to be an option .
Thank you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2013, 09:33:02 PM
north_antrim_hound really has it in for MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 09:35:30 PM
 ::) ::) ::).  This board is about opinions FFS.  People's differ.  What about it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 07, 2013, 09:39:55 PM
Is that honestly someone from this forum?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
Just saw this on Antrim website


Name : Parent 06 October 2013
I would understand that there will be a comprehensive investigation into what happened on Saturday in Glenariffe.
We should be grateful that this serious incident did not have a more serious outcome. Comment, opinion etc is one thing and needs to be measured so that we can learn to deal with this sub culture of violence. That behoves us all as adults and goes beyond the apportionment of blame , ridicule and sanctions. The duty of care for children in these situations is paramount and a gross breach of that was in evidence on Saturday.
Fortunately Joe Edwards was there to witness first hand the appalling scenes.
It is in that context that I hope the investigative process in some way helps to guide us towards respect and tolerance for one another. Sport and the GAA is a great medium and a learning process to inculcate values of honesty,integrity, tolerance - through wining and losing.
I am extremely disappointed to read the postings of Milltown Row on the GAA Discussion Board Antrim Hurling thread.
What I glean is that he is a referee, maybe a teacher but the nature and content of his postings reflects poorly on both those positions of responsibility.
I would suggest that his contributions with regard to this incident and the derogatory way he refers to fellow GAA members be noted by the appropriate authority within Antrim GAA.
I have the utmost respect for the work and the good work done by refeeres. They are not responsible for a culture where this violent behaviour seems to be an option .
Thank you

Like I give a shite what this 'parent' posts. I've posted nothing I wouldn't say to someones face, unlike this glipe, I'm unsure of what it is that reflects poorly on both these positions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 07, 2013, 11:05:17 PM
Just right MR. Bit of trouble making there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 07, 2013, 11:17:26 PM
I read back through MR2's posts and they are mostly commendable and nothing of any note.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
Just saw this on Antrim website


Name : Parent 06 October 2013
I would understand that there will be a comprehensive investigation into what happened on Saturday in Glenariffe.
We should be grateful that this serious incident did not have a more serious outcome. Comment, opinion etc is one thing and needs to be measured so that we can learn to deal with this sub culture of violence. That behoves us all as adults and goes beyond the apportionment of blame , ridicule and sanctions. The duty of care for children in these situations is paramount and a gross breach of that was in evidence on Saturday.
Fortunately Joe Edwards was there to witness first hand the appalling scenes.
It is in that context that I hope the investigative process in some way helps to guide us towards respect and tolerance for one another. Sport and the GAA is a great medium and a learning process to inculcate values of honesty,integrity, tolerance - through wining and losing.
I am extremely disappointed to read the postings of Milltown Row on the GAA Discussion Board Antrim Hurling thread.
What I glean is that he is a referee, maybe a teacher but the nature and content of his postings reflects poorly on both those positions of responsibility.
I would suggest that his contributions with regard to this incident and the derogatory way he refers to fellow GAA members be noted by the appropriate authority within Antrim GAA.
I have the utmost respect for the work and the good work done by refeeres. They are not responsible for a culture where this violent behaviour seems to be an option .
Thank you

Like I give a shite what this 'parent' posts. I've posted nothing I wouldn't say to someones face, unlike this glipe, I'm unsure of what it is that reflects poorly on both these positions

I have nothing to do with this
Tony baloney don't ever refer my name to anything wrote somewhere else without consulting me first

Me and mr2 where having a debate on here. his character and his position as a ref didn't come in to it

Maybe in hindsight we didn't consider someone involved on Saturday would be reading it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 07:24:18 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.

Hurler, like this parent guy, read through my posts and highight were I have defended anyone in this. Again full of shite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2013, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 07, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2013, 09:18:15 PM
Just saw this on Antrim website


Name : Parent 06 October 2013
I would understand that there will be a comprehensive investigation into what happened on Saturday in Glenariffe.
We should be grateful that this serious incident did not have a more serious outcome. Comment, opinion etc is one thing and needs to be measured so that we can learn to deal with this sub culture of violence. That behoves us all as adults and goes beyond the apportionment of blame , ridicule and sanctions. The duty of care for children in these situations is paramount and a gross breach of that was in evidence on Saturday.
Fortunately Joe Edwards was there to witness first hand the appalling scenes.
It is in that context that I hope the investigative process in some way helps to guide us towards respect and tolerance for one another. Sport and the GAA is a great medium and a learning process to inculcate values of honesty,integrity, tolerance - through wining and losing.
I am extremely disappointed to read the postings of Milltown Row on the GAA Discussion Board Antrim Hurling thread.
What I glean is that he is a referee, maybe a teacher but the nature and content of his postings reflects poorly on both those positions of responsibility.
I would suggest that his contributions with regard to this incident and the derogatory way he refers to fellow GAA members be noted by the appropriate authority within Antrim GAA.
I have the utmost respect for the work and the good work done by refeeres. They are not responsible for a culture where this violent behaviour seems to be an option .
Thank you

Like I give a shite what this 'parent' posts. I've posted nothing I wouldn't say to someones face, unlike this glipe, I'm unsure of what it is that reflects poorly on both these positions

I have nothing to do with this
Tony baloney don't ever refer my name to anything wrote somewhere else without consulting me first

Me and mr2 where having a debate on here. his character and his position as a ref didn't come in to it

Maybe in hindsight we didn't consider someone involved on Saturday would be reading it
Grow up (unless north_antrim_hound is your actual name and then ypu have my apologies  ;))

I don't think anyone thought it was you as it would be childish in the extreme.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 07:44:38 AM
Below are post realated to the craic in Glenariffe, for those who can't be arsed reading through pages to actually see what I posted on it it's here. He said she said can give people the wrong idea.

Bad craic, ya can't go headbutting people ffs, must have been some nut job ffs

Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2013, 07:42:21 PM
Was talking to someone at it and he said it was the worst he has seen on a pitch, players supporters and mentors all fighting on the pitch. As for the young Belfast Gaels player that head butted the female photographer........

A f**king joke

Under 16's ffs, too many e numbers, the amount of games where the lads at that age get carried away is nuts. It just takes one thing to kick off. Ya need to blow for every challenge to ensure there is no niggles going on

They are the ones usually egging them on ffs, head da balls, I canny wait to hear who's involved and whats done about it

In my day ya really didn't see too many parents turning up for the games, the obvious ones were of course club men who's sons played, outside of that there wasn't many there, now ffs ya can't get them off the line, and in most cases never played the game but are telling the manager what to do!!! Telling their kids to 'get him son'!!

My dad turned up for a few games, wasn't a Gaa man at all, got him to go to a football semi final once, a fight broke out, I'm in the middle of it, as I got in the car to go home my dad hit me a clip round the ear for fighting!! That's the way it was

All clubs have a code of conduct for supporters at games, nothing is ever done to these parents when they break those rules, through maybe fear of that parent taking Johnny away to another club!! 

If Some animal pulled across the head of my kid I would struggle to contain myself to. That's one time where emotion overriding logic and rules could be forgiven

That's exactly why there's so much of this crap year after year in Antrim. U-16 grade was by far the worst for it, in my experience.
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Yes that's a ridiculous statement north antrim hound ffs. The parents coming on to the pitch will only make a bad situation worse. No f**king need


No one is saying that, jumping over the fence is wrong, it's been done (lad getting hit) and jumping the fence won't make any difference. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And if the referee didn't see it doesn't mean the person walks, I'd imagine there was umpires and lines men there along with wee Joe on the line. The parent running on and slapping a 16 year old is as big a sc**bag as the thug who hit the lad with the stick

Yes we all have it and we all have selected memories of our own players pulling on players from behind, what happens on the pitch should be between those players. People coming on from the sidelines is wrong every time, an adult coming on to the pitch could do serious harm also NAH could even kill someone!!


That's a lot of guess work NAH, I could guess that this clampit does this every week I could also guess he is gives abuse every week to other team players referees ffs, I can guess that as like you I don't know him nor do I know HS's report is accurate.

A lot of 'jumping' to conclusions. Protecting your son after he was hit is impossible retaliating and smacking a 16 or younger lad is also GBH you can see that? Tell me you know it's wrong on every level please


I have condemned it, I called him a thug, which thug is the worst?

So you didn't see it also?

The topic went off on a tangent about people running on to the pitch and was it the right thing to do or not? and how (I feel) it would only escalate the problem. No one said they were there, no one was adding 2 and 2 together.

There were plenty of officials there to make the right calls and hopefully get all involved


I said he was a thug, seriously? Are they adults now? In any occasion be it this or the any other incident the person who comes in and retaliates is always going to escalate it. I remember a match at casement were a player stepped back and drew on a player across the knee, that player was out for a year or so, nobody jumped the fence that day. Maybe his da wasn't there or his dad thought better of jumping the fence

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 08:16:12 AM
Only the myopic missed what you were saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2013, 08:42:07 AM
MR2 i wouldnt worry about it. ive seen nothing to suggest you were defending any of it. shit stirring nothing more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 08:56:09 AM
Of course they do. They hate this place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 08, 2013, 08:46:35 AM
The fact that they let that be posted suggests our county website admin has an axe to grind too.

Yeah, they have had it in for this site for years, I don't actually think they read any of the comments on here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 07, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team

They were on Sunday.  A few first teamer's missing and a few of the ones who were playing were out for destruction.  From talking to a few of our boys after the game it sounds like a few of the Ports were nursing hangovers and had an attitude that said they didn't give a f**k.  A joke that No.6 never saw red. 

The next time Ports visit Loughgiel I'd bet he's one who'll cry off. Coward.

He'll be off playing golf that day if its the same lad I'm thinking of.

Same lad could have seen the line in the county final for two yellows, has a bad habit of coming in from behind with a wild pull, nowhere near the ball, caught Magic with one near the end as he was picking the ball up, ref let him away with it as the game was over at that stage.

Sorry to hear about Scullion getting the hand broke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2013, 09:11:28 AM
County antrim post has run the story in the back page with a pic of one of the Belfast Gaels players sticking with the stick around the head. The lads faces in full view. It's a shocking picture 
Also they have a full account of the attacks including the female reporter who apparently was head butted and had a stick jabbed in her chest.
That picture is pretty bad esp the complete anger in the lads face.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 07, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 07, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Joey nearly had his hand removed yesterday. And no cultec involved. Just constant fouling/battering in which ref never picked up on.    Broke in shite. 8/10 weeks for the poor lad.      Nag I wasn't being smart.  Was just looking your take on it.
Apparently the ref was a disgrace as well as the perpetrators. Joey is disgusted by it.

The referee didn't strike him ffs, Hugh been refereeing for a while and is come across a a decent fella, would question his counting skills at times ;) but woudn't favour a team over another, Ports generally not a dirty team
Their half time team talk was overheard and went along the lines of "pull whether they've the ball or not."

This was after they smashed Joey's hand to sh*te. The ref did nothing about it. Maybe he had an off day, let's hope so.

I've overheard plenty of 'pull on the ball whether they have it or not' over the years, your own club included ffs, stop with the whiter than white attitude. There is always a muppet on the line or a player that will say daft things like that, it's not done that much at senior level, but it happens, heard and seen it as a player, and the same as a referee, I've pulled a few managers over their behaviour during a game.

Playing ports there was only one lad that I'd would have said was intent on giving the lash, he was on his own though, ginger haired lad NAG? last game I done he was playing for the reserves at fb. Don't you be jumping the fence or encouraging someone to break his hand now when the visit next year ;)

Joey should hopefully recover for the semi final

The ginger lad got the line in the club semi-final, heard he shoved the hurl into the back of a Ballycran lads head in the middle of a melee, not sure how the referee saw it though, I didn't from where I was. Get the name of an early riser and you can lie in bed all day sort of thing. He'd still be suspended I'd have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
Been removed, strange that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
I wont go into my JFK theory but I dont thinks its unreasonable to this someone was well placed to post on the county website with an axe to grind with both this board (and anything else that dares criticise eg irish News) and MR2 as well.

Take no notice. Just the pathetic level our county administration is at.

I saw the CAP front page - some criticism of their publishing of it but to be honest its accurate so I dont see too much wrong. Their decision  - the dont need to answer to their readership.

But lets not involve where teams / people are from as part of this debate - whether its jumping the wore of striking with a hurl - actions have been seen from people no matter where there from!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

Would it be unfair to say here that poorly prepared juvenile teams in Belfast might have teenagers who would be more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough when they don't posses the right skills to play the game hard and fair. We'd an U14 game abandoned a couple of years ago. There was a sinister pack mentality developed in the opposition after about 10-15 when decisions/the game wasn't running for them there was a string of treacherous wild pulls on our players. 4 players sent off in 5 mins. You could sense there was an understanding amongst the players that this was what had to be done for bragging rights. The lack of instruction from the line played a big part IMO. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on October 08, 2013, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

I was only a wee kid at the time but I think I remember seeing Sambo pull across someones head after they squared up in a championship match many moons ago?? Straight red and I remember the uproar after it - was this infamous enough? As I say it was one of my first memories of a championship hurling match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 10:30:42 AM
If we're gonna play that game,  1 of our top referees pulled the worst head shot I've ever witnessed. Served a good suspension for it too.  Granted it was nearly 20 years ago, but he wasn't 16 years old. Poacher turned game keeper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
And off we go on a tangent  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 08, 2013, 10:36:04 AM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 10:30:42 AM
If we're gonna play that game,  1 of our top referees pulled the worst head shot I've ever witnessed. Served a good suspension for it too.  Granted it was nearly 20 years ago, but he wasn't 16 years old. Poacher turned game keeper.


before we go off on the tangent I think that Ref was involved with one of the clubs in this incident??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 10:38:19 AM
Was that when sambo done mickey smart at casement? Mickey didn't hurl again after that. Uproar from the hill.he was lucky to get out alive that day. Digger mckearney got moved onto sambo and he didn't want to know after that. Cowardly fxxker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 08, 2013, 10:42:15 AM
Right I think we should nip this in the bud before it goes in all sorts of directions.

Everyone is in agreement what happened in the match was wrong and that those who acted in a violent way should be punished.

There is an investigation to determine the facts. Once they are known suspensions will arise and hopefully served.

What else does anyone want done? There is nothing else to do, these incidents will happen from time to time and as we have seen people recalling incidents 20 years ago, its not new.

It is how we react to them and learn any lessons if required.

We play and coach a very passionate game and sometimes that gets the better of people but i would say there were thousands of games this year and maybe only a handful that caused any sort of bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 10:51:10 AM
He was indeed. Most of his family were involved for many years before that. Don't get me wrong, it was a terrible stroke. I was playing with him and it took 3 of us to pull him away from going in again. Times were a lot worse then than now thankfully. While I don't wish to take away from the incident at Glenariffe.  We should be grateful that these types of things are less common than 20-30 years ago. A lot worse was going on then, but not as widely reported thanks to the internet/twitter etc. I wish we could rely on our administrators to deal with it correctly,  but in even handing over the cup after the game and their methods of work over the last few years dont bode well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

Would it be unfair to say here that poorly prepared juvenile teams in Belfast might have teenagers who would be more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough as they don't posses the right skills to play the game hard and fair. We'd an U14 game abandoned a couple of years ago. There was a sinister pack mentality developed in the opposition after about 10-15 when decisions/the game wasn't running for them there was a string of treacherous wild pulls on our players. 4 players sent off in 5 mins. You could sense there was an understanding amongst the players that this was what had to be done for bragging rights. The lack of instruction from the line played a big part IMO.

Nail on head there.

There's also the distinct misunderstanding of what is hard hurling and what is sneaky dirty cowardly hurling. If you're going hard and fair there's an understanding that you yourself may get hurt in the process, whereas the sneaky, cowardly hoor is almost never in a position to get hurt, coming in from behind, pulling high, etc, etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
And off we go on a tangent  ::)

As much as it is going off tangent with what happened 20 years ago, the way the Antrim county board dealt with the Sambo/Kevin McShane incident wasn't exactly covering themselves in glory.

Initially Sambo got the full 2 year suspension IIRC, but then Antrim county board invoked some obscure ancient bylaw or other to allow him to play for Antrim the following summer meaning his suspension was reduced to 9 months tops.

Hardly a good deterrent, was it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

Would it be unfair to say here that poorly prepared juvenile teams in Belfast might have teenagers who would be more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough as they don't posses the right skills to play the game hard and fair. We'd an U14 game abandoned a couple of years ago. There was a sinister pack mentality developed in the opposition after about 10-15 when decisions/the game wasn't running for them there was a string of treacherous wild pulls on our players. 4 players sent off in 5 mins. You could sense there was an understanding amongst the players that this was what had to be done for bragging rights. The lack of instruction from the line played a big part IMO.

I wasn't at the game but heard about it Skull, involved my club. I personally haven't ever used that type of tactics and wouldn't be involved with a team that used them. While being a corner back for years I was never an angel but always went for the ball. Hard but fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 08, 2013, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 08, 2013, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
And off we go on a tangent  ::)

As much as it is going off tangent with what happened 20 years ago, the way the Antrim county board dealt with the Sambo/Kevin McShane incident wasn't exactly covering themselves in glory.

Initially Sambo got the full 2 year suspension IIRC, but then Antrim county board invoked some obscure ancient bylaw or other to allow him to play for Antrim the following summer meaning his suspension was reduced to 9 months tops.

Hardly a good deterrent, was it?

That is exactly my point that the lessons from these incidents and how they were handled should be learned and implemented in to anything coming out in recent incidents.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 11:28:16 AM
I went to Glenariffe on Saturday mainly to support Ballycastle in the 'A' Final but arrived about 20 minutes into the first half of the 'B' Final.  I didn't see everything that happened. For instance I didn't see the photographer being assaulted or the incident where it is alleged that a parent jumped the fence and assaulted a Gaels player.

But this is what I did see from behind and slightly to the left of the Belfast Gaels sideline.

Glenshesk were in front and I was told that even at that stage, certainly one, and possibly two Belfast Gaels players could have been sent off but weren't.   Glenshesk stretched their lead from that point through until about 15/20 mins into the 2nd half.  At this stage the Gaels' centre half back was sent off after receiving a second yellow. 

In my opinion this is where it really started. He didn't want to go and argued vehemently with the ref about it. He started to walk towards the line but ran back and had words again with the ref eventually leaving the pitch.  The Belfast Gaels players, both those on the pitch and those on the sideline were incensed about the sending off.

Within a few minutes the ref advised the Gaels' mentors to take their No 7 off before he got sent off.  They did
so but the No 7 came to the line "effing & blinding".  One of the mentors told him to pack it in or, I think what he said was,
"you'll never play for St Paul's again", to which the No 7 replied that he didn't care and continued to be agitated and abusive.

This is where the Gaels' mentors abdicated responsibility.  The mentor turned his back and walked away. 
The No 7 and others just got more agitated - one asking to be put on so that he could get sent off.  I saw one sub being sent on
after taking instructions from a player on the sideline,not from the mentors!  Having lost control of their players on the sideline
there was no chance that they could control their players on the pitch.

Glenshesk, meanwhile, extended their lead to 12 pts. 2-12 to 0-6.

Then it really went mad.  The ref had, I think, blown for a free. Words were exchanged between the Glenshesk player and the
Belfast Gaels player.  The Gaels player stepped back and struck the Glenshesk lad on the head with his stick.  Within seconds,
another Gaels player did exactly the same to another Glenshesk lad.  A Glenshesk player then ran up and, after seeing the first
two strikes you would have to say, rather foolishly/naively, dropped his hurl and pushed a Gaels lad in the chest with his hands, 
I'm not sure if this was the same Gaels lad who had administered the second head strike, but his response was to step
back and deliver another strike to the head with his hurl.

That was 3, full-blooded strikes to the heads of Glenshesk players within seconds of each other. I can tell you it was pretty shocking.
The recipient of the last strike looked to be badly hurt. He went to his knees, got up, staggered about, undid his helmet, did it up again, went down, got up, staggered - he didn't seem to know what was going on.  As I watched him the whole melee started so I didn't actually see how that developed.  Just 2 notable elements of it. 

The first was a Gaels mentor sprinting across the pitch and booting someone who was lying on the ground. 

The second was the aforementioned Gaels No 7 repeatedly sneaking around the perimeter of the melee, kicking and striking people and then running away and dancing about in jubilation with his arms in the air.

The Glenshesk players were shepherded towards the pavilion though there still seemed to be some action going on in the middle.  The Gaels mentors got their players back to the sideline. They were in jubilant and celebratory mood.  Disgracefully, one of their mentors seemed to be encouraging this and promoting some kind of group solidarity.

My overview is this.  Glenshesk were much the better team.  Gaels couldn't take defeat.  The Gaels mentors lost control/abdicated responsibility of their charges.  It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence.  There are at least 3 of those players who should never be allowed through the gates of a GAA pitch again.  The mentors should never be allowed to take charge of any team ever again.

If it is true that Antrim County Board are going to award the trophy to this team because Glenshesk refused a replay, that is scandalous.  I repeat the score

Glenshesk 2-12  Belfast Gaels 0-6

What parent of a 14/15/16 year old could be expected to allow their child to replay that game after witnessing those scenes?
Those youngsters could have been seriously and permanently damaged.  In fact, I don't believe it is an exaggeration to say that a fatality could easily have resulted from the actions of the Gaels players.

Can it really be countenanced that a team who are being well beaten should be able to start a riot, get a match abandoned and then be awarded the trophy?

I hope not. 

I've been going to hurling matches for more years than I want to remember and have seen some individual, dirty strokes in my time, but I have never seen such concerted, cowardly, thuggery as I saw on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on October 08, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 11:28:16 AM
I went to Glenariffe on Saturday mainly to support Ballycastle in the 'A' Final but arrived about 20 minutes into the first half of the 'B' Final.  I didn't see everything that happened. For instance I didn't see the photographer being assaulted or the incident where it is alleged that a parent jumped the fence and assaulted a Gaels player.

But this is what I did see from behind and slightly to the left of the Belfast Gaels sideline.

Glenshesk were in front and I was told that even at that stage, certainly one, and possibly two Belfast Gaels players could have been sent off but weren't.   Glenshesk stretched their lead from that point through until about 15/20 mins into the 2nd half.  At this stage the Gaels' centre half back was sent off after receiving a second yellow. 

In my opinion this is where it really started. He didn't want to go and argued vehemently with the ref about it. He started to walk towards the line but ran back and had words again with the ref eventually leaving the pitch.  The Belfast Gaels players, both those on the pitch and those on the sideline were incensed about the sending off.

Within a few minutes the ref advised the Gaels' mentors to take their No 7 off before he got sent off.  They did
so but the No 7 came to the line "effing & blinding".  One of the mentors told him to pack it in or, I think what he said was,
"you'll never play for St Paul's again", to which the No 7 replied that he didn't care and continued to be agitated and abusive.

This is where the Gaels' mentors abdicated responsibility.  The mentor turned his back and walked away. 
The No 7 and others just got more agitated - one asking to be put on so that he could get sent off.  I saw one sub being sent on
after taking instructions from a player on the sideline,not from the mentors!  Having lost control of their players on the sideline
there was no chance that they could control their players on the pitch.

Glenshesk, meanwhile, extended their lead to 12 pts. 2-12 to 0-6.

Then it really went mad.  The ref had, I think, blown for a free. Words were exchanged between the Glenshesk player and the
Belfast Gaels player.  The Gaels player stepped back and struck the Glenshesk lad on the head with his stick.  Within seconds,
another Gaels player did exactly the same to another Glenshesk lad.  A Glenshesk player then ran up and, after seeing the first
two strikes you would have to say, rather foolishly/naively, dropped his hurl and pushed a Gaels lad in the chest with his hands, 
I'm not sure if this was the same Gaels lad who had administered the second head strike, but his response was to step
back and deliver another strike to the head with his hurl.

That was 3, full-blooded strikes to the heads of Glenshesk players within seconds of each other. I can tell you it was pretty shocking.
The recipient of the last strike looked to be badly hurt. He went to his knees, got up, staggered about, undid his helmet, did it up again, went down, got up, staggered - he didn't seem to know what was going on.  As I watched him the whole melee started so I didn't actually see how that developed.  Just 2 notable elements of it. 

The first was a Gaels mentor sprinting across the pitch and booting someone who was lying on the ground. 

The second was the aforementioned Gaels No 7 repeatedly sneaking around the perimeter of the melee, kicking and striking people and then running away and dancing about in jubilation with his arms in the air.

The Glenshesk players were shepherded towards the pavilion though there still seemed to be some action going on in the middle.  The Gaels mentors got their players back to the sideline. They were in jubilant and celebratory mood.  Disgracefully, one of their mentors seemed to be encouraging this and promoting some kind of group solidarity.

My overview is this.  Glenshesk were much the better team.  Gaels couldn't take defeat.  The Gaels mentors lost control/abdicated responsibility of their charges.  It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence.  There are at least 3 of those players who should never be allowed through the gates of a GAA pitch again.  The mentors should never be allowed to take charge of any team ever again.

If it is true that Antrim County Board are going to award the trophy to this team because Glenshesk refused a replay, that is scandalous.  I repeat the score

Glenshesk 2-12  Belfast Gaels 0-6

What parent of a 14/15/16 year old could be expected to allow their child to replay that game after witnessing those scenes?
Those youngsters could have been seriously and permanently damaged.  In fact, I don't believe it is an exaggeration to say that a fatality could easily have resulted from the actions of the Gaels players.

Can it really be countenanced that a team who are being well beaten should be able to start a riot, get a match abandoned and then be awarded the trophy?

I hope not. 

I've been going to hurling matches for more years than I want to remember and have seen some individual, dirty strokes in my time, but I have never seen such concerted, cowardly, thuggery as I saw on Saturday.

That's a scary read alright and sounds absolutely disgraceful what happened
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

Would it be unfair to say here that poorly prepared juvenile teams in Belfast might have teenagers who would be more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough when they don't posses the right skills to play the game hard and fair. We'd an U14 game abandoned a couple of years ago. There was a sinister pack mentality developed in the opposition after about 10-15 when decisions/the game wasn't running for them there was a string of treacherous wild pulls on our players. 4 players sent off in 5 mins. You could sense there was an understanding amongst the players that this was what had to be done for bragging rights. The lack of instruction from the line played a big part IMO.

Unfair? No just damn ridiculous!
This is true - but where the team is from is irrelevant!
Has there never been a juvenile team from the glens that was "poorly prepared, lacked skills, or didn't play hard but fair"
I can tell you there has been - and I have seen it.
I posted earlier that we shouldn't let geography cloud what happened - this is precisely what you have done!
Did it ever occur to you this is often how southerners view northern hurling? Glensmen included!
Sometimes people can be so blind they don't see their own prejudices. After all - read the posts and u will hear plenty about a grown adult pulling on heads and he is not from Belfast!
Take a step back and look in the mirror and be honest - that's a prejudiced comment.

As for glentaisie report - all shocking, none of it has any place in hurling or in life. I hope they are all dealt with as severely as possible.
But are you really reporting that not a single glenshesk person struck anyone or did anything in the wrong?
Your first post? Common sense tells me it's selective about what u saw or chose to report.

Poor innocent country boys assaulted by thugs from city while enjoying a friendly hurling game eh.
Nobody from the glens ever hit anyone, pulled a stick on someone, verbally abused anyone or jumped the wire.
Nobody. Ever.
All just pure hurling nice guys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
Over sensitive jibber jabber btgtgtt

A.  I highlight the 2 times Ive seen such incidents was by NA hurlers  :o. Prejudiced my arse
B. I said "more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough". I never implied NA hurlers haven't carried out shameful acts. It was a question I felt worth asking as the two recent times Ive seen this pack mentality descend into madness were from city teams. Rossa for instance are one of the most disciplined teams in juvenile grades I've seen and the Jonnies also know where to draw the line (or at least close to it). So lets not simplify the discussion so a 4 year old can handle it.

You're the one needs to dry your eyes and take a step back 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 12:40:45 PM
to btdtgtt

It is indeed my first post.  Does that make it untrue?  This issue was discussed over several pages by posters on here on the basis of a report that somebody had heard.  That report went something like " Gaels player struck a Glenshesk player. Glenshesk player's father jumped the fence and attacked the Gaels player.  Riot ensued. Match abandoned." 

That report was pretty much absolute bollocks but it didn't stop a lot of posters here, who hadn't been at the game, pontificating about it.

I have explained where I was standing, which perhaps, explains why what I saw mainly concerned Gaels.  I did say that a Glenshesk player pushed a Gaels player in the chest and received a blow to the head in return so your assertion that I am "reporting that not a single glenshesk person struck anyone or did anything in the wrong?" is clearly wrong.

I certainly will not accept your old ploy of trying to insinuate that "one's as bad as the other".  They weren't.  I repeat and stand by this,  "It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence."

I was there.  I saw what I saw.  You weren't.

You say that you " posted earlier that we shouldn't let geography cloud what happened" and then "Poor innocent country boys assaulted by thugs from city "

Irony fail.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 10:12:49 AM
The 2 incidents I can remember of blatant aggressive pulls to the head (have never seen a woman getting a Glasgow kiss or a player being kicked in the head) from the past we both done by NA hurlers. Both near misses thank god as both victims weren't wearing a lid. Both isolated incidents over 20 years ago now. 

Would it be unfair to say here that poorly prepared juvenile teams in Belfast might have teenagers who would be more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough when they don't posses the right skills to play the game hard and fair. We'd an U14 game abandoned a couple of years ago. There was a sinister pack mentality developed in the opposition after about 10-15 when decisions/the game wasn't running for them there was a string of treacherous wild pulls on our players. 4 players sent off in 5 mins. You could sense there was an understanding amongst the players that this was what had to be done for bragging rights. The lack of instruction from the line played a big part IMO.

Unfair? No just damn ridiculous!
This is true - but where the team is from is irrelevant!
Has there never been a juvenile team from the glens that was "poorly prepared, lacked skills, or didn't play hard but fair"
I can tell you there has been - and I have seen it.
I posted earlier that we shouldn't let geography cloud what happened - this is precisely what you have done!
Did it ever occur to you this is often how southerners view northern hurling? Glensmen included!
Sometimes people can be so blind they don't see their own prejudices. After all - read the posts and u will hear plenty about a grown adult pulling on heads and he is not from Belfast!
Take a step back and look in the mirror and be honest - that's a prejudiced comment.

As for glentaisie report - all shocking, none of it has any place in hurling or in life. I hope they are all dealt with as severely as possible.
But are you really reporting that not a single glenshesk person struck anyone or did anything in the wrong?
Your first post? Common sense tells me it's selective about what u saw or chose to report.

Poor innocent country boys assaulted by thugs from city while enjoying a friendly hurling game eh.
Nobody from the glens ever hit anyone, pulled a stick on someone, verbally abused anyone or jumped the wire.
Nobody. Ever.
All just pure hurling nice guys.

Look again we are getting into a them and us situation, pointless as said already we can point to loads of incidents from our own clubs were we have seen it first hand.

My view (If I'm allowed to have one without it being reported for being bad!!) is that this grade and minor is the worst to control, too bloody hyped up and think they are invincible, the mouthing back at the referee is to be heard to be believed, I don't stand for it myself and have sent lads off, slabbering will continue unless you do something about it. This match should have finished off handy enough with the lead they had, but something/someone sparked it of.

I'm surprised the referee didn't get the blame here for 'allowing it to happen'. Be a strange one legally to hit both clubs as it happened while the team is playing as amalgamation. minefield

Glentaisie, this is a forum for debating, on most occasions people will debate on things they were not witness to, like the things going on in other countries, or the troubles or....... you get my point. Yes there was a report on it by someone who heard from someone, Chinese whispers, apparently I caused it all and have been at the centre of all things bad in Antrim as some parent said on the OFFICIAL ANTRIM BOARD. Again this person heard a story from one guy and so on.

You said you were there and I 'll take that at face value, why would I think any different? It's a terrible scene you have described, and not once has it been said by any posters on here to be anything other than atrocious. The wee debate with NAH was whether someone should jump the fence, it could have been about this incident  or anyother one (which it seems was the case) but NAH's stands by his reasoning and I'll stand by mine on it. it doesn't relate to what went on.... Phewwwww
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
Over sensitive jibber jabber btgtgtt

A.  I highlight the 2 times Ive seen such incidents was by NA hurlers  :o. Prejudiced my arse
B. I said "more susceptible to collectively cutting up rough". I never implied NA hurlers haven't carried out shameful acts. It was a question I felt worth asking as the two recent times Ive seen this pack mentality descend into madness were from city teams. Rossa for instance are one of the most disciplined teams in juvenile grades I've seen and the Jonnies also know where to draw the line (or at least close to it). So lets not simplify the discussion so a 4 year old can handle it.

You're the one needs to dry your eyes and take a step back

Thats fair enough Skull - but your post does specifically say Belfast.
As I said - the geographical element is irrelevant. 
It should have been left out of that post - its prejudiced - there's no other way of taking the comment.
I'm not saying everything you have posted is prejudiced (or that you are) but like I say - associated those characteristics exclusively with with Belfast should not happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2013, 01:06:36 PM
I think we are getting a general picture now of what happend, so its now up to the county board (one of which was there) to sort it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 12:40:45 PM
to btdtgtt

It is indeed my first post.  Does that make it untrue? 
Nope - and i didnt imply that.

This issue was discussed over several pages by posters on here on the basis of a report that somebody had heard.  That report went something like " Gaels player struck a Glenshesk player. Glenshesk player's father jumped the fence and attacked the Gaels player.  Riot ensued. Match abandoned." 

That report was pretty much absolute bollocks but it didn't stop a lot of posters here, who hadn't been at the game, pontificating about it.

I have explained where I was standing, which perhaps, explains why what I saw mainly concerned Gaels.  I did say that a Glenshesk player pushed a Gaels player in the chest and received a blow to the head in return so your assertion that I am "reporting that not a single glenshesk person struck anyone or did anything in the wrong?" is clearly wrong.

Common sense tells me that a push to the chest was not the only aggression shown by the Glenshesk contingent. I've also heard other reports just as valid as your own - which tell me such.

I certainly will not accept your old ploy of trying to insinuate that "one's as bad as the other".  They weren't.  I repeat and stand by this,  "It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence."

I was there.  I saw what I saw.  You weren't.

Thats true but like I say the reports I have heard are as valid as yours.
Now - the fact is that from what i've heard the Belfast gaels team were the agressors, they were totally out of order, and they showed nothing of what a hurling team should.
I don't subscribe to the notion that "one is as bad as the other" and never said I did.

The point I am making is that this incident should not be used as a stick to beat Belfast with. Similar acts have been carried out by North Antrim teams over the years. Your report is ridiculously one-sided - for example you just posted;
"It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence."
The "worst" But not the only perpetrators. Your first post made it seem like they were the only guilty party. Thats key - lets not assume nobody in Glenshesk has also a case to answer - or that violence is a uniquely Belfast thing. It isn't. Far from it. And not just a "push in the chest".


You say that you " posted earlier that we shouldn't let geography cloud what happened" and then "Poor innocent country boys assaulted by thugs from city "

Irony fail.

Not at all - like I said I am referring to the generalisation. Your report is so one sided it loses credibility. There seems to be an assumption that this is Belfast behaviour in general - and Glensmen are brought into it.
I'm sorry but I've seen the truth with my own eyes and Glensmen have history here. I wasnt there - but I am quite sure there are Glensmen who were guilty of violence at this game too.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 08, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.

You must have been at a different 'A' final from me Hurler24.  What I saw was 2 committed teams serve up a decent game of hurling, with some great personal battles thrown in and controlled well by the referee.  You would have us all to believe that those shrinking violets from the Town allowed themselves to be roughed up off the ball by those despicable Johnnies men!  What occured in the A final is definitely not 'worth noting', especially if you're making a half-arsed attempt at equating it to what happened in the match that went before.  Chalk and cheese, night and day, black and white all spring to mind.  The only thing 'worth noting' is the manner in which Ballycastle subdued the challenge of the opposition to deservedly win the county title.  Only my opinion mind...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
To Milltown Row

Glentaisie, this is a forum for debating, on most occasions people will debate on things they were not witness to, like the things going on in other countries, or the troubles or....... you get my point. Yes there was a report on it by someone who heard from someone, Chinese whispers, apparently I caused it all and have been at the centre of all things bad in Antrim as some parent said on the OFFICIAL ANTRIM BOARD. Again this person heard a story from one guy and so on.

I understand this.  I have been reading this forum for a couple of years now.  But having been there and having witnessed what I did  and then reading what I thought was ill-informed debate was what prompted me to register and post.  You caused it all?  I thought it was Loughgiel's fault.

You said you were there and I 'll take that at face value, why would I think any different? It's a terrible scene you have described, and not once has it been said by any posters on here to be anything other than atrocious. The wee debate with NAH was whether someone should jump the fence, it could have been about this incident  or anyother one (which it seems was the case) but NAH's stands by his reasoning and I'll stand by mine on it. it doesn't relate to what went on.... Phewwwww

I was there. Why would you think any different?  I have no connection to either the Carey club or the Armoy club and have no axe to grind against either St Paul's or Sarsfields. 
Maybe it's a North Antrim thing, but I would tend to sympathise with NAH's view.
One other thing.  The parent who allegedly jumped the fence (apparently that is certainly untrue) and assaulted the Gael's player (which apparently he denies) is someone that I have never heard referred to as a thug or bully boy.  Neither, as far as I know, is he some numpty who would be giving abuse from the wrong side of the fence each Sunday.  In fact his level of education might match your own, so no numpty surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 01:37:47 PM
to btdtgtt

" Your report is so one sided it loses credibility". 

In that case the fact that you weren't there negates any point you make.

" Your first post made it seem like they were the only guilty party.

No.  You obviously don't understand what you read.  I said as you yourself pointed out, ""It was Gaels who were the instigators and worst perpetrators of violence."  That implies that there was violence from both sides.

I certainly did not say that what I saw was all that happened. In any case, while, as Milltown Row pointed out this is a debating forum, I registered to post what I had seen, and to leave it to you expert debaters to make what you would of it.

And finally, your comment that, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."  Well maybe those who cannot see because they weren't there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
To Milltown Row

Glentaisie, this is a forum for debating, on most occasions people will debate on things they were not witness to, like the things going on in other countries, or the troubles or....... you get my point. Yes there was a report on it by someone who heard from someone, Chinese whispers, apparently I caused it all and have been at the centre of all things bad in Antrim as some parent said on the OFFICIAL ANTRIM BOARD. Again this person heard a story from one guy and so on.

I understand this.  I have been reading this forum for a couple of years now.  But having been there and having witnessed what I did  and then reading what I thought was ill-informed debate was what prompted me to register and post.  You caused it all?  I thought it was Loughgiel's fault.

You said you were there and I 'll take that at face value, why would I think any different? It's a terrible scene you have described, and not once has it been said by any posters on here to be anything other than atrocious. The wee debate with NAH was whether someone should jump the fence, it could have been about this incident  or anyother one (which it seems was the case) but NAH's stands by his reasoning and I'll stand by mine on it. it doesn't relate to what went on.... Phewwwww

I was there. Why would you think any different?  I have no connection to either the Carey club or the Armoy club and have no axe to grind against either St Paul's or Sarsfields. 
Maybe it's a North Antrim thing, but I would tend to sympathise with NAH's view.
One other thing.  The parent who allegedly jumped the fence (apparently that is certainly untrue) and assaulted the Gael's player (which apparently he denies) is someone that I have never heard referred to as a thug or bully boy.  Neither, as far as I know, is he some numpty who would be giving abuse from the wrong side of the fence each Sunday.  In fact his level of education might match your own, so no numpty surely?

Read my posts again, NAH said that he'd find it difficult to not jump the fence, I said that that would be daft as it would only escalate the problem. you agree with that? I think we can all say that if a parent (not relating this incident as it never happened)  come on to the pitch and hits a 15/16 year old will find himself in a bad light. I agreed with you saying you were there. I didn't call anyone a numpty, it was a general term for someone who would jump the fence and hit child, and I called a numpty a person who would give abuse to a referee. I didn't call the person who jumped the fence this as he apparently didn't jump the fence or hit anyone. What you have failed to say is nowhere in any of my posts have I tried to defend the actions of anyone involved in this and have said that the officials there will have seen everything and hopefully get everyone involved.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 08, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.

You must have been at a different 'A' final from me Hurler24.  What I saw was 2 committed teams serve up a decent game of hurling, with some great personal battles thrown in and controlled well by the referee.  You would have us all to believe that those shrinking violets from the Town allowed themselves to be roughed up off the ball by those despicable Johnnies men!  What occured in the A final is definitely not 'worth noting', especially if you're making a half-arsed attempt at equating it to what happened in the match that went before.  Chalk and cheese, night and day, black and white all spring to mind.  The only thing 'worth noting' is the manner in which Ballycastle subdued the challenge of the opposition to deservedly win the county title.  Only my opinion mind...

Pure hurlers from the Glens, Pure thugs from Belfast.
Apparently thats always the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2013, 01:58:43 PM
I'm with the rest here



It's loughgiel a fault ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 08, 2013, 01:58:43 PM
I'm with the rest here



It's loughgiel a fault ;)

It was them that shot JFK too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 02:07:16 PM
To Milltown Row

Read my posts again, NAH said that he'd find it difficult to not jump the fence, I said that that would be daft as it would only escalate the problem. you agree with that? I think we can all say that if a parent (not relating this incident as it never happened)  come on to the pitch and hits a 15/16 year old will find himself in a bad light.

And I sympathise with NAH's view but yes it would almost certainly escalate things and the parent would be seen in a bad light.

I didn't call anyone a numpty, it was a general term for someone who would jump the fence and hit child, and I called a numpty a person who would give abuse to a referee. I didn't call the person who jumped the fence this as he apparently didn't jump the fence or hit anyone.

Fair enough.

What you have failed to say is nowhere in any of my posts have I tried to defend the actions of anyone involved in this and have said that the officials there will have seen everything and hopefully get everyone involved.

I wasn't criticising/attacking anything you said. Merely, for the most part, trying to add a few facts to the debate.  As I said before, I didn't register and post to argue with anybody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
Pure hurlers from the Glens, Pure thugs from Belfast.
Apparently thats always the way.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/oh_please_mary_ive_heard_enough_post_cards-ra665c5a53b0e453790257da7575185db_vgbaq_8byvr_324.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
Pure hurlers from the Glens, Pure thugs from Belfast.
Apparently thats always the way.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/oh_please_mary_ive_heard_enough_post_cards-ra665c5a53b0e453790257da7575185db_vgbaq_8byvr_324.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 08, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
the poor rednecks are saints getting bullied by belfast thugs again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Its definitely not just a "belfast thing" NAH obviously hasn't had the cargin, moneyglass or rasharkin cead mile fáilte, that would open his eyes! It's all a test of character :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Its definitely not just a "belfast thing" NAH obviously hasn't had the cargin, moneyglass or rasharkin cead mile fáilte, that would open his eyes! It's all a test of character :D

I'm absolutely 110% in agreement. Now show me where anyone said it was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Its definitely not just a "belfast thing" NAH obviously hasn't had the cargin, moneyglass or rasharkin cead mile fáilte, that would open his eyes! It's all a test of character :D

I'm absolutely 110% in agreement. Now show me where anyone said it was?

Must be just the vibe I'm getting skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 08, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
From the sound of Glentaisie's report it should be up to the PSNI to sort out, not the Antrim County Board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on October 08, 2013, 03:30:58 PM
Its definitely not just a "belfast thing" NAH obviously hasn't had the cargin, moneyglass or rasharkin cead mile fáilte, that would open his eyes! It's all a test of character :D

I'm absolutely 110% in agreement. Now show me where anyone said it was?

Must be just the vibe I'm getting skull.

I suppose even paranoid people can have enemies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 08, 2013, 05:10:26 PM
Too much time on your hands MR. Don't give these eejits the time of day. Nobody condones striking of the head especially if its deliberate and nobody condones a parent punching an under 16. That was the initial report but it seems that might have been a bit exaggerated. The danger  of commenting without the facts . Every club has its history , players and incidents in the past who have let their club down so let's not get bogged down in this tit for tat nonsense. I don't think the antrim post will let the county board wash this under the carpet which is a blessing. Lets just hope all those injured recover fully especially the young woman. She was always very pleasant and bubbly when I saw her
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 08, 2013, 05:10:26 PM
I don't think the antrim post will let the county board wash this under the carpet which is a blessing.

Fair point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2013, 06:06:17 PM
I know her and she's taken a real bad blow to the face.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 08, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 08, 2013, 06:06:17 PM
I know her and she's taken a real bad blow to the face.
i hope they get the right person for it and he gets a lengthy ban.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 08, 2013, 07:25:54 PM
It was alledgedly 6 for the head butt, 11 for the stick work on her chest!! The County Antrim Post I believe lists the teams so work the rest out for yourself, its well worth the pound!!! BG men of course. PSNI all over it now, I for one say its about time, hope wee J doesn't loose these statements, we don't want a rasharkin gate incident again  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
I'd guess btdtgtt would say that the County Antrim Post, by only publishing this photo of the mayhem, is not a credible witness.


(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/Glentaisie/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg) (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/Glentaisie/media/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg.html)



Edit: I think you can see the photo now.  Note that
1  the assailant is not using the face of the hurl. He is using the blade.
2 he has no helmet, suggesting that he came from the sideline.

Clearly identifiable though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 08, 2013, 07:49:27 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
I'd guess btdtgtt would say that the County Antrim Post, by only publishing this photo of the mayhem, is not a credible witness.

http://s781.photobucket.com/user/Glentaisie/media/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg.html

(http://[url=http://s781.photobucket.com/user/Glentaisie/media/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg.html%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/Glentaisie/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg)[/URL][/img]

Pic doesn't seem to aave loaded unfortunately.  Any body help me on how to display a pic from photobucket?

Edit: I think you can see the photo now.  Note that
1  the assailant is not using the face of the hurl. He is using the blade.
2 he has no helmet, suggesting that he came from the sideline.

Clearly identifiable though.


Would make a hell of a difficult "spot the ball" pic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 07:53:48 PM
Well that lad without the helmet is clearly not in possession of any balls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 08, 2013, 07:55:15 PM
His parents will be proud of that pic. He'll have it as his phone screen saver.  Unreal.  A complete and utter nutjob. 

Be careful Glentaisie, you might be accused of picking on the chip-eaters by posting that pic.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 08, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Am I seeing this right? Is that guy without the helmet aiming his hurl at the bourbon the green helmet? That's face on?. WTF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
I said
"That was 3, full-blooded strikes to the heads of Glenshesk players within seconds of each other. I can tell you it was pretty shocking."

but, because I only saw Belfast Gael infringements, I am not a credible witness.

Personally I think that County Antrim Post picture has been photoshopped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 08, 2013, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 08, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Am I seeing this right? Is that guy without the helmet aiming his hurl at the bourbon the green helmet? That's face on?. WTF

Is the bourbon not part of the helmet of his team mate? Think it's the green helmet behind. Takes a big man to pull the hurl like that, off the ball.

Think it just has to be a zero tolerance either 5 year to life ban for this type of behaviour before someone gets killed. Just like in senior games where boys go out for the love of the game and have work the next day, then some psycho comes along and thinks your fair game to be cut in 2. It can happen quite a bit in div4 games and the like.

There is no room for this type of antics in this sport. Add to that the increase to insurance premiums for clubs next year if the insurance companies get a squint at that photo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 08, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
I said
"That was 3, full-blooded strikes to the heads of Glenshesk players within seconds of each other. I can tell you it was pretty shocking."

but, because I only saw Belfast Gael infringements, I am not a credible witness.

Personally I think that County Antrim Post picture has been photoshopped.


Who are you having a gripe with??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Not you Gizzy.

Earlier I was told that my eye witness account wasn't credible because I didn't see eveything.

I'm getting caught up in the "Someone is wrong on the Internet" thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Not you Gizzy.

Earlier I was told that my eye witness account wasn't credible because I didn't see eveything.

I'm getting caught up in the "Someone is wrong on the Internet" thing.

Sure I'm now in the Antrim Post, seems I'm worse that the lads that were doing the smacking kicking and striking!!! lol

I condemned the actions spoke out against them also, had a debate with someone on the bases that if someone came on to the pitch and struck a 16 year old that it would escalate the situation, that it was wrong and this was given a space in the paper, talk about not checking your facts or even taking the 5 mins to check the actual post/thread, Journo's have a life of it I tell ya

The sc**bag thug comment related to that and not the incident as we weren't even there ffs laughable if it weren't so serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
I'd guess btdtgtt would say that the County Antrim Post, by only publishing this photo of the mayhem, is not a credible witness.


(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/Glentaisie/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg) (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/Glentaisie/media/gael1_zps55d56fb7.jpg.html)



Edit: I think you can see the photo now.  Note that
1  the assailant is not using the face of the hurl. He is using the blade.
2 he has no helmet, suggesting that he came from the sideline.

Clearly identifiable though.

Utter bullsh**t.
Ur gonna have a long time on this board if u putting ur own slants on others statements - over 1500pages so far.

So let's try this:

1) I am incensed when I see these pictures and hear what went on. I hope the perpetrators are dealt with by Antrim - and because I view these acts as nothing to do with hurling - I have no problem if the PSNI are involved.

2) that does not mean everyone from the glenshesk contingent is 100% not guilty of any bad acts. I wasn't there - but being "less guilty" is not the same as "not guilty". Best wishes to all who were injured.

3) the acts of the thugs from Belfast Gaels (not all the team) should not be associated with Gaels in the city as a whole. This would be nieve since the same problems have existed elsewhere.

Interesting point of the CAP forcing the county's hand - if only the press could be as effective with our governments. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2013, 10:04:29 PM
I think of their reporter hadn't of been assaulted they may not have been pushing this as much.

Fair play tho to them. Pity other papers didn't do the same and tell the truth!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 08, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 08, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Not you Gizzy.

Earlier I was told that my eye witness account wasn't credible because I didn't see eveything.

I'm getting caught up in the "Someone is wrong on the Internet" thing.

Sure I'm now in the Antrim Post, seems I'm worse that the lads that were doing the smacking kicking and striking!!! lol

I condemned the actions spoke out against them also, had a debate with someone on the bases that if someone came on to the pitch and struck a 16 year old that it would escalate the situation, that it was wrong and this was given a space in the paper, talk about not checking your facts or even taking the 5 mins to check the actual post/thread, Journo's have a life of it I tell ya

The sc**bag thug comment related to that and not the incident as we weren't even there ffs laughable if it weren't so serious.
I can't find it. You've reached the big time now.  ;D

*edit

Found it. Another one who didn't actually read your posts correctly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 09, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
btdtgtt

Utter bullsh**t.
Ur gonna have a long time on this board if u putting ur own slants on others statements - over 1500pages so far.

If I decide to stick around I'll get some lessons from you in both bullsh*t and deliberate misinterpretation of others' posts.

btdtgtt
So let's try this:

1) I am incensed when I see these pictures and hear what went on. I hope the perpetrators are dealt with by Antrim - and because I view these acts as nothing to do with hurling - I have no problem if the PSNI are involved.

Good

btdtgtt
2) that does not mean everyone from the glenshesk contingent is 100% not guilty of any bad acts. I wasn't there - but being "less guilty" is not the same as "not guilty". Best wishes to all who were injured.

You really shouldread my first post again. I never said that Gaels were the only offenders.

btdtgtt
3) the acts of the thugs from Belfast Gaels (not all the team) should not be associated with Gaels in the city as a whole. This would be nieve since the same problems have existed elsewhere.

I made no comment on Gaels in Belfast in general

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 09, 2013, 09:36:57 AM
Seems they're having a few similar issues at underage in Tipp at the minute...U16 and Minor!  Not that it lessens the unease over what happened on Saturday.  In fact, probably increases the general level of despair.  Madness all round.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/tipp-officials-puzzled-by-blackout-after-mass-brawl-29645447.html

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2013, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 09, 2013, 09:36:57 AM
Seems they're having a few similar issues at underage in Tipp at the minute...U16 and Minor!  Not that it lessens the unease over what happened on Saturday.  In fact, probably increases the general level of despair.  Madness all round.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/tipp-officials-puzzled-by-blackout-after-mass-brawl-29645447.html

Blame the Belfast people.

Give Loughgiel a break!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 09, 2013, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 09, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
btdtgtt

Utter bullsh**t.
Ur gonna have a long time on this board if u putting ur own slants on others statements - over 1500pages so far.

If I decide to stick around I'll get some lessons from you in both bullsh*t and deliberate misinterpretation of others' posts.
I hope not given the one sided nature of your original "thats what I saw" report - and I doubt it.

btdtgtt
So let's try this:

1) I am incensed when I see these pictures and hear what went on. I hope the perpetrators are dealt with by Antrim - and because I view these acts as nothing to do with hurling - I have no problem if the PSNI are involved.

Good

btdtgtt
2) that does not mean everyone from the glenshesk contingent is 100% not guilty of any bad acts. I wasn't there - but being "less guilty" is not the same as "not guilty". Best wishes to all who were injured.

You really shouldread my first post again. I never said that Gaels were the only offenders.

Oh thats right - you only saw a Glenshesk bloke push someone in the chest - thats all they are guilty of!

btdtgtt
3) the acts of the thugs from Belfast Gaels (not all the team) should not be associated with Gaels in the city as a whole. This would be nieve since the same problems have existed elsewhere.

I made no comment on Gaels in Belfast in general
I didnt say you did. It was a comment i already reference elsewhere on the board.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
Hard to have a adult debate with super sensitive adults always waiting to take offence to the point they're reading things that haven't been written.

A signed code of conduct needs to be drawn up and signed by every player above 14 to place an emphasis of respecting the game of hurling and those playing. Don't bother playing the game if you can't get the kids to abide by the code.

I'm having real sympathy for the dad who could very well have been saving his sons life such was the brutality of his attacker. When only one blow with a hurl will do it and you see a young lad using a stick in this way without any regard for what he's doing...I'm sure the primal human instinct to preserve your child's life comes into play....ie thinking has nothing to do with his actions. Should he really have been expected to control that emotion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
Hard to have a adult debate with super sensitive adults always waiting to take offence to the point they're reading things that haven't been written.

A signed code of conduct needs to be drawn up and signed by every player above 14 to place an emphasis of respecting the game of hurling and those playing. Don't bother playing the game if you can't get the kids to abide by the code.

I'm having real sympathy for the dad who could very well have been saving his sons life such was the brutality of his attacker. When only one blow with a hurl will do it and you see a young lad using a stick in this way without any regard for what he's doing...I'm sure the primal human instinct to preserve your child's life comes into play....ie thinking has nothing to do with his actions. Should he really have been expected to control that emotion?

+1

I think the fact this was an amalgamation makes it a bit easier to abdicate responsibility, there wouldnt be that sense that you are letting your club down by getting involved in this type of incident. Maybe that wouldnt have come into it, but it might have played a small part.

At the end of the day the clubs/ Mentors have to take responsibility for the young lads and their development as human beings as well as players. So the knock on effect of this is that the mentors have to be completely disciplined so that it rubs off on their players. (Not easy at times but definitely crucial)

I think a lot of progress has been made on discipline actually but there is always more we can do, I think the best advice you can give to young people involved in any sport when trying to coach or mentor them, is to use role models to show that invariably the most disciplined sports people both on and off the field are generally the most successful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 09, 2013, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 09, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
Hard to have a adult debate with super sensitive adults always waiting to take offence to the point they're reading things that haven't been written.

A signed code of conduct needs to be drawn up and signed by every player above 14 to place an emphasis of respecting the game of hurling and those playing. Don't bother playing the game if you can't get the kids to abide by the code.

I'm having real sympathy for the dad who could very well have been saving his sons life such was the brutality of his attacker. When only one blow with a hurl will do it and you see a young lad using a stick in this way without any regard for what he's doing...I'm sure the primal human instinct to preserve your child's life comes into play....ie thinking has nothing to do with his actions. Should he really have been expected to control that emotion?
i have to say i agree totally.i,ve 3 young sons playing and if any 1 of them were in this sort of trouble i,d have scaled the fence in no time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
I read in the paper today that Milltown Row started the riot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on October 09, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 08, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.


You must have been at a different 'A' final from me Hurler24.  What I saw was 2 committed teams serve up a decent game of hurling, with some great personal battles thrown in and controlled well by the referee.  You would have us all to believe that those shrinking violets from the Town allowed themselves to be roughed up off the ball by those despicable Johnnies men!  What occured in the A final is definitely not 'worth noting', especially if you're making a half-arsed attempt at equating it to what happened in the match that went before.  Chalk and cheese, night and day, black and white all spring to mind.  The only thing 'worth noting' is the manner in which Ballycastle subdued the challenge of the opposition to deservedly win the county title.  Only my opinion mind...

Pure hurlers from the Glens, Pure thugs from Belfast.
Apparently thats always the way.

I think i made it quite clear that the strikes in the A final were not in the same league as the other game but what I will say is that I was behind the St Johns bench and the mentors there whinged at the Belfast referee throughout the game and IN MY OPINION he bottled two red card decisions.St Johns players struck several boys of the ball and the ref only gave yellows?But yes I wont complain about the performance as it was comprehensive to say the least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
Belfast referee? Meaning he lives in Belfast, referees, and couldn't give a shite who wins. Maybe with you country ones it's different but most clubs in Belfast dont get on. Are you saying had he been from north Antrim he'd have sent them off and not bottled it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2013, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
I read in the paper today that Milltown Row started the riot.

That was me running on with my computer smashing it over the kids head, while headbutting the 'parent' who didn't jump the fence and smack the 15/16 year old. I tell ya, that's some going. I also punched all the kids I'm teaching, ignoring the responsibilities that a teacher has. Phewww all in the days work of a mad man.

Oh I'll probably never referee again........... No wait, I'm out this weekend. It's tough being an internet warrior who hides behind.... Oh that's right I don't hide and call myself Parent  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 10, 2013, 08:07:34 AM
Fair play MR2, I honestly admire someone who doesn't hide behind the mouse/keyboard, especially a referee. I however still wish to remain hidden.............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ArfurFoxAche on October 10, 2013, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 09, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 08, 2013, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: ArfurFoxAche on October 08, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on October 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
I was at the two U16 games on Sunday as our own boys were involved after. The Belfast Geals player pulled him across the head twice and then another kicked him after running on.Almost Domino effect across the pitch as Belfast Geals players attacked Glenshesk ones.The parent in question then left the sideline and went to the aid of his son who was laying on the ground being stamped on.He pushed the Gaels players away as did other parents across the pitch it was at this stage cries went up from gaels parents about him "striking". Missed the reporter being headbutted and hit but heard them shouting at her to get her tits out etc.Disgraceful behaviour from gaels.Also mr2 catch yourself on.Defending your buddies from the city when they are clearly in the wrong.If rumours are to be believed Owen Elliot collecting photos of injuries to Glenshesk players and finding out about their trips to A+E. Also worth noting that St Johns players were at similar carry on off the ball in our own game although not quite to the same extent.


You must have been at a different 'A' final from me Hurler24.  What I saw was 2 committed teams serve up a decent game of hurling, with some great personal battles thrown in and controlled well by the referee.  You would have us all to believe that those shrinking violets from the Town allowed themselves to be roughed up off the ball by those despicable Johnnies men!  What occured in the A final is definitely not 'worth noting', especially if you're making a half-arsed attempt at equating it to what happened in the match that went before.  Chalk and cheese, night and day, black and white all spring to mind.  The only thing 'worth noting' is the manner in which Ballycastle subdued the challenge of the opposition to deservedly win the county title.  Only my opinion mind...

Pure hurlers from the Glens, Pure thugs from Belfast.
Apparently thats always the way.

I think i made it quite clear that the strikes in the A final were not in the same league as the other game but what I will say is that I was behind the St Johns bench and the mentors there whinged at the Belfast referee throughout the game and IN MY OPINION he bottled two red card decisions.St Johns players struck several boys of the ball and the ref only gave yellows?But yes I wont complain about the performance as it was comprehensive to say the least.

You're right.  All about opinions.  Opinions that are clouded and influenced by partisanship.  For every transgression you highlight, I'm sure a St John's person could highlight similar emanating from Ballycastle.  Nobody has the ability to follow what is happening on or off the ball in every position, so your perception is also limited to what you saw, what you think you saw, or what your fellow clubmen or supporters told you they saw.  Likewise, other people at the ground from both clubs could no doubt quote examples of whinging from the opposition bench or supporters which is clouded by their own myopic view of the game.  It's the same for every game and every club.

This is the main reason that, when i go to watch matches, I try to adopt the solitary fan approach - stand as far away as possible from your own club mates.  Try it yourself.  You'll get a whole new perspective on things.

Some other posters reckon your original post was a rather obvious attempt to denigrate St John's, and Belfast teams in general, on the back of your spat with MR2, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.  I've no desire to be involved in a back and forth on whataboutery so I'll leave this as my last post on the subject, congratulating Ballycastle once again on their victory and wishing both teams the best in their development as hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on October 10, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
Arfur Fox Ache, at least a man (or maybe a woman!) with a bit of sense on here and a mature attitude to other clubs! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.

That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
which part is crap? It's hard to write with a broken hand. He'll be able to do some light training. Not now, obviously, but he will a few weeks down the line. He hasn't got a broken leg mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
which part is crap? It's hard to write with a broken hand. He'll be able to do some light training. Not now, obviously, but he will a few weeks down the line. He hasn't got a broken leg mr2.

Just talking aboutr what he'd said in the Irish News, its crap that he will be out of work as he can't drive lost out on his exams due to not being able to write as his thumb is smashed!! What did you think I said??????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
which part is crap? It's hard to write with a broken hand. He'll be able to do some light training. Not now, obviously, but he will a few weeks down the line. He hasn't got a broken leg mr2.

Just talking aboutr what he'd said in the Irish News, its crap that he will be out of work as he can't drive lost out on his exams due to not being able to write as his thumb is smashed!! What did you think I said??????????
:-[ I read it wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 10, 2013, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
which part is crap? It's hard to write with a broken hand. He'll be able to do some light training. Not now, obviously, but he will a few weeks down the line. He hasn't got a broken leg mr2.

Just talking aboutr what he'd said in the Irish News, its crap that he will be out of work as he can't drive lost out on his exams due to not being able to write as his thumb is smashed!! What did you think I said??????????
:-[ I read it wrong.

That old persecution complex coming to the surface again there...everyone hates us!!

Had to laugh at all this chat from Loughgiel about everyone else saying they were a "done team". Not sure exactly who they were that were meant to be saying that but sure the spin worked!


If it was dirt through the game at the weekend that injured Joey it is a real shame (a real shame either way for him). Couldn't agree more about some form of code of conduct being made compulsory. A hurl is not a weapon, it should be seen as a privilege to carry one.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 10, 2013, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 10, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I see in the Irish news joeys out till after Cmas now with his thumb. Pity for him as he's a good hurler and one I like.

Also we have to play cdall this weekend in our last game. Some excitement there! Lol
As much as we'll miss him from the team, at least he'll be fresh for the all Ireland semi in February, if we get through of course. He'll also be able to train a little which will be beneficial. It's a pity because he was close to motm playing against McManus.
That is crap, he'd work and exams I hear also that will be put back beacuse of the injury and a few pound also.

As said he had a fine game in the county final though most of the Loughgiel forwards played all over the forward line so they weren't naturally picking a player up as such
which part is crap? It's hard to write with a broken hand. He'll be able to do some light training. Not now, obviously, but he will a few weeks down the line. He hasn't got a broken leg mr2.

Just talking aboutr what he'd said in the Irish News, its crap that he will be out of work as he can't drive lost out on his exams due to not being able to write as his thumb is smashed!! What did you think I said??????????
:-[ I read it wrong.

That old persecution complex coming to the surface again there...everyone hates us!!

Had to laugh at all this chat from Loughgiel about everyone else saying they were a "done team". Not sure exactly who they were that were meant to be saying that but sure the spin worked!


If it was dirt through the game at the weekend that injured Joey it is a real shame (a real shame either way for him). Couldn't agree more about some form of code of conduct being made compulsory. A hurl is not a weapon, it should be seen as a privilege to carry one.
No, I just read it wrong.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 10, 2013, 11:03:09 PM
Sounds like he got a cowardly pull.

Advantage Ballygalget
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2013, 11:03:09 PM
Sounds like he got a cowardly pull.

Advantage Ballygalget

15:30

Loughgiel Shamrocks v Ballygalget
1/100
50/1
12/1

ha ha ha ha ha ha
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 10, 2013, 11:13:53 PM
Must......resist.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2013, 11:53:56 PM
This code of conduct?
Bullsh**t.

I can just see all hell breaking loose and a juvenile stopping "wait now lads remember we signed a code of conduct"

If it was that simple every team in every sport would just sign a code of conduct and that'd be it - no trouble on field anymore!

Maybe the Taliban & al Qaeda should have a code of conduct.
If only the Brits had signed one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 11, 2013, 08:38:42 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 10, 2013, 11:03:09 PM
Sounds like he got a cowardly pull.

Advantage Ballygalget

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 11, 2013, 01:11:49 PM
Looking forward to Sunday, not been to Owenbeg before.

Shamrocks by 12+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 11, 2013, 01:15:55 PM
Does 'Brick' McCarthy still hurl for Cushendall?  Remember him being a good player a few years ago but haven't really heard of him since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 12, 2013, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 11, 2013, 01:15:55 PM
Does 'Brick' McCarthy still hurl for Cushendall?  Remember him being a good player a few years ago but haven't really heard of him since.

I think Brick had knee problems and had an operation but never recovered fully and has packed it in now. He was a good player all right and not very old. I think he's only about 25 even now.

Will Cushendall and Dunloy field full teams and be competitive tomorrow?  If it was in June or July it would be a game worth seeing.

Lastly, congratulations to the two Ballycastle players, Stephen McAfee and Ciaran Clarke on their selection on the U21 Team of the Year.  Brilliant achievement.
TEAM OF THE YEAR

Ronan Taaffe (Clare); Paul Flanagan (Clare), David McInerney (Clare), Brian Kennedy (Kilkenny); Seadna Morey (Clare), Alan O'Neill (Clare), Ray Barry (Waterford); Colm Galvin (Clare), Lee Chin (Wexford); Tony Kelly (Clare), Padraic Collins (Clare), Stephen McAfee (Antrim); Stephen Quirke (Offaly), Jason Forde (Tipperary), Ciaran Clarke (Antrim).

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/banner-dominate-u21-team-of-the-year-29649153.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Our under 12's won the Nipper Quinn today beating St Pauls at Rossa Park, It's been a while but the lads looking after the team have put in serious effort and hopefully we can get another decent team in a few years time. Strangely both the Johnnies and Rossa teams have slipped this year, first in a while.

Did Loughgiel win the North Antrim under 12 championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 12, 2013, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Our under 12's won the Nipper Quinn today beating St Pauls at Rossa Park, It's been a while but the lads looking after the team have put in serious effort and hopefully we can get another decent team in a few years time. Strangely both the Johnnies and Rossa teams have slipped this year, first in a while.

Did Loughgiel win the North Antrim under 12 championship?good to see.galls will be strong for next couple of years.karl stewart doing serious work there.belfast needs at least 3or 4 teams going at it to challenge our country cousins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Did Loughgiel win the North Antrim under 12 championship?

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
Any reports on the Loughgiel game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 07:04:41 PM
Seems Creggan and Gaels won in high scoring games, well done lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Belfast Gaels?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Belfast Gaels?

:o

Piss taker, I'll end up refereeing for Armagh at this rate lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.
Just a bit, but fair dues to 'galget, at least they went out to hurl. ;)

And I agree, it's a great venue. Fantastic view and great surface.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.

Don't think the result was ever in doubt in fairness but the margin of victory gives the impression that Ballygalget were able to at least get the measure of yous but never apply real pressure to win the game. It's good to have game like that so that it keeps the team (maybe not the team but supporters) from thinking the games will be a walk over. Slaughtneil  beat the Fermanagh champions and by all accounts they had it handy due to the poor indiscipline (I've mentioned it before ;)) as they had 3 players sent off.

Final in Owenbeg?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.
Just a bit, but fair dues to 'galget, at least they went out to hurl. ;)

And I agree, it's a great venue. Fantastic view and great surface.

Actually that would be my one gripe.  Grass looked a little long and seemed to stop dead any time it was hit low / no bounce of dropping ball etc.

Benny McCarry was excellent, some great scores in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.

Don't think the result was ever in doubt in fairness but the margin of victory gives the impression that Ballygalget were able to at least get the measure of yous but never apply real pressure to win the game. It's good to have game like that so that it keeps the team (maybe not the team but supporters) from thinking the games will be a walk over. Slaughtneil  beat the Fermanagh champions and by all accounts they had it handy due to the poor indiscipline (I've mentioned it before ;)) as they had 3 players sent off.

Final in Owenbeg?

The game never really started MR2.  We got an early goal so always had a cushion.  Anytime Ballygalget came within 5 we went and got a score.  It was just flat from us the whole way through.

No Joey or JC for us which obviously wasn't ideal but we got 2 young fellas (1 minor) a game and emptied the bench.  Players no doubt looking forward to the final and a few weeks rest win or lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 11:04:00 PM
I heard Owenbeg and Newry mentioned.  Think its announced later in the week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
We won by 7 points in the end up, result never in any doubt.  Referee was very generous to Ballygalget at times IMO.

Owenbeg is a fantastic venue.

I must have missed that said generosity, apart from one instance where our fullback was lucky not to get a second card, I didn't see much going our way. The same generosity was then shown to Neil McGarry who took to assaulting magic before a line ball was taken and both ended up with yellow cards. Hasson bottled it big time there.

The same generosity was shown a few minutes later where he pulled down Magic in the square in a similar tackle which resulted in the 21 yard free for Loughgeil in the first half where their goal came from, after the short pass which looked a bit too short.

The better team won, but in the second half DD was by and far the busier keeper and kept the lead up to 6 points which we couldn't close.

Title: Div 1 Relegation
Post by: The Memory Man on October 14, 2013, 10:23:56 AM
Was the Rossa v Portaferry game played yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2013, 10:24:17 AM
Its funny how opposing sides can view a referees performance, shows how hard the job is.  I'd love to see the free count. 

I thought your boys got away with a lot of pulling and slapping at our forwards throughout the game.  Didn't think our backs had anywhere near as much grace from the referee (again I'd love to see stats on this, I'll try to get watching a replay at some point over the next week).

Magic appeared to be giving as much as he was getting on the edge of the square.  As he was getting tired in the last 15 he seemed to want to niggle and slap more and more.  I've no doubt Neilly fought his corner as well.

Ballygalget seemed more up for the game and looked most dangerous with Magic at the edge of the square.  He was wasted in the first half out the field as he seems to have lost a bit of mobility / fitness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2013, 10:24:17 AM
Its funny how opposing sides can view a referees performance, shows how hard the job is.  I'd love to see the free count. 

I thought your boys got away with a lot of pulling and slapping at our forwards throughout the game.  Didn't think our backs had anywhere near as much grace from the referee (again I'd love to see stats on this, I'll try to get watching a replay at some point over the next week).

Magic appeared to be giving as much as he was getting on the edge of the square.  As he was getting tired in the last 15 he seemed to want to niggle and slap more and more.  I've no doubt Neilly fought his corner as well.

Ballygalget seemed more up for the game and looked most dangerous with Magic at the edge of the square.  He was wasted in the first half out the field as he seems to have lost a bit of mobility / fitness.

Neilly certainly fought his corner, he started it, but TBH if I was in his position I'd have done it too, get the big lad off his game and it worked to an extent.. Magic isn't a dirty hurler but he's slowly learning not to let lads hammer and smash at him all the time. If Magic was a dirty hurler he'd have taken DD ball and all into the net the time the ball dropped in behind him. DD got there in the nick of time, Magic had only eyes for the ball or he could have done DD a serious disservice. Magic would have got up again if the two collided, DD wouldn't have.

We got off to a terrible start, nerves or whatever, gifted the goal and a few points to Loughgeil I think it was 1-3 to a point for a good while. Our sweeper wasn't working at all as Loughgeil were bossing the middle third and getting the man in possession to put good ball into Watson and the other corner forward, McCarry?? bypassing the value of an extra man. Up the field a lot of passes went astray and resulted in nothing where scores should have come for us. In saying that Loughgeil hit a few bad wides, dropped a good few into graham and shot from impossible angles. With Magic out the field he was being covered by three men for our puck outs. Why Graham didn't try to find an advantage on the other side of the field I don't know because when Magic went to full forward the lad brought out, Bo Duke did well aerially and set up a few scores from clean catches. We were holding on for most of the first half.

I thought we played much better in the second half pushed wee Eoin further up the field and allowed Gabriel Clarke to cover in and around the half back line which he did admirably. At the same time we put much more pressure on the ball coming out of the Loughgeil defence meaning the clearances were higher, rather than the low raking balls in the first half which were killing our corner backs. The higher balls didn't suit the Loughgeil forwards that much, Watsons habit of batting the ball down to himself was stifled as Gabriel Clarke was on to it quicker as well as the 19 year old John McManus who's a fantastic wee hurler marking Watson was going well. McCarry in the other corner was still putting over some nice scores from wide angles, but the lad who was marking him was going a good job and didn't let him inside him once. I can't remember Graham having a single shot to save in the second half whereas DD pulled off one superb save from Stevie Clarke and his bravery at taking a good catch with Magic bearing down in him.

All in all we'd a youngish team, Mcmanus in the corner, Mcgrath at centre back and Caolan Baille are only out of minor last year and holding their own but there's a lot more in Baille if he'd work a bit harder during games. The rest of the team aren't old either barring Graham, but keepers are keepers and can go of for a few years yet.
Fitness wise, Stevie Clarke has been out all year with a shoulder injury, yesterday was his second game in a year and he's still rusty, Shane Baille has been plagued by injuries all year too, so has Deccy McManus who'd to come off due to a recurring groin injury and didn't look himself anyway. You're always going to have injury problems but if we can get some of those to clear up and work like f**k with a good set of young fellas coming out of U-16, a few who are big and can run as well as hurl then we'll be in a better position.

From a Loughgeil perspective I'd be a bit worried about the lack of aerial power you have in your half forward line, once young Mcgrath got the better of Scullion (Martin??, haven't got my program with me), you relied very heavily on the midfield to pick up breaking ball, the smaller of the two midfielders is a great hurler, but on wet pitches like the one in Owenbeg yesterday it didn't always come off. I know Eddie came on (emptying the bench or shoring things up  ;)  ) and he's an option as well as Joey Scullion who's also an option. But I thought that was your downfall last year against St Thomas'.

The poor striking for scores, Liam Watson was uncharacteristically guilty a few times would need addressed too, but there's two weeks for that.

Owenbeg is a good set up but I'd be worried about that pitch if it was a wet winter. It was wet yesterday and that was after a dry week.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2013, 11:56:38 AM
Thats a fair enough assessment, wouldn't disagree with too much.

Eddie started, think you're maybe referring to Barney coming on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 14, 2013, 11:56:38 AM
Thats a fair enough assessment, wouldn't disagree with too much.

Eddie started, think you're maybe referring to Barney coming on.

Probably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.

Is it two hours from the pound?
;)

Could they not have played this the same day as the Antrim Down Ulster final that no one gives a fúck about?


Ports didn't play Rossa yesterday due to a death of someone involved in either club, not sure who.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.

Is it two hours from the pound?
;)

Could they not have played this the same day as the Antrim Down Ulster final that no one gives a fúck about?


Ports didn't play Rossa yesterday due to a death of someone involved in either club, not sure who.

An hour for the other team, be grand, might head down. Be a typical physical Derry team, all their footballers playing no doubt, lacking skill but plenty of fight. Though that's the downfall as they normally (Derry teams) lose a man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.
not in Scotland  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.

Is it two hours from the pound?
;)

Could they not have played this the same day as the Antrim Down Ulster final that no one gives a fúck about?


Ports didn't play Rossa yesterday due to a death of someone involved in either club, not sure who.

An hour for the other team, be grand, might head down. Be a typical physical Derry team, all their footballers playing no doubt, lacking skill but plenty of fight. Though that's the downfall as they normally (Derry teams) lose a man

Plenty of footballers on the St Galls teams and I'd never had that preconception that they were physical, plenty of fight, but lacking in skill.
Why so the Derry hurlers or is it just footballers who also play hurling in general?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 14, 2013, 02:14:46 PM
Match in Celtic park. Throw in 2:30 Sunday the 27th
please tell me you're joking.

Is it two hours from the pound?
;)

Could they not have played this the same day as the Antrim Down Ulster final that no one gives a fúck about?


Ports didn't play Rossa yesterday due to a death of someone involved in either club, not sure who.

An hour for the other team, be grand, might head down. Be a typical physical Derry team, all their footballers playing no doubt, lacking skill but plenty of fight. Though that's the downfall as they normally (Derry teams) lose a man

Plenty of footballers on the St Galls teams and I'd never had that preconception that they were physical, plenty of fight, but lacking in skill.
Why so the Derry hurlers or is it just footballers who also play hurling in general?

Whe was the last time you played the Derry teams? I've always found them to be more phyiscal than the Antrim teams, when we do have a full team out we are a big team, though if truth be told our 'footballers' are competent hurlers who won juvenile hurling championships right through to minor and played in 2 under 21 finals.

The last few Derry v Antrim finals in Ulster have always resulted in hard games some even come close like Dungiven and lose out in the end, I expect this to be the same, Slaughtneil  hammered us a while back, though it was the Ulster league they were very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
I'm questioning your preconceptions and generalisations of Derry teams, the very same way Antrim and Northern teams are generally thought of a dirty when they head south and invariably you can see that at play in the back of a referees mind at times.

Just thinking...

Who'll referee that one?

Has Gerry Devlin thankfully gave up on the whistling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on October 14, 2013, 06:51:27 PM
Geez Johnney, you've a short memory about Devlin. You had him to thank for for winning the Ulster Club title in 98/99 when he played on deep into added time until the Galget got an equaliser to take the final to a reply. Ballycastle (who were there by default) were raging with him and you won the replay.

Have to say you are spot on with most of your observations and your analysis is normally excellent, but you should be more grateful to Gereard Devlin!

P.S. Bredagh are looking for a new coach/manager. Interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on October 14, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
Really interested about Antrim's perceptions on Derry hurling.

I'm an Antrim man, educated in Derry, and....

At the time I went there, they viewed the Derry style of hurling as closer to the Southern boys, i.e. skillful hurlers who physically assert themselves when going for a ball, while they always considered Antrim hurling as being skillfully superior to Derry, but lacking in balls in regards to physically going for the ball.

Regarding skill levels, they put that down to Antrim having a true hurling culture in the glens & Belfast where hurling is the no one sport in the clubs and therefore have a greeter pool of players to pull from, whereas Derry and Down have considerably smaller hurling areas in a football dominated county, therefore a smaller skill base to pick from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
I'm questioning your preconceptions and generalisations of Derry teams, the very same way Antrim and Northern teams are generally thought of a dirty when they head south and invariably you can see that at play in the back of a referees mind at times.

Just thinking...

Who'll referee that one?

Has Gerry Devlin thankfully gave up on the whistling?

No preconceptions have played Derry teams over the years and watched them play in the Ulster club championships and the college games, it's at that level were they are at there most skillful if I'm to be honest, they play a great brand of hurling and the teams I played against for a few years at Minor (they played in the Antrim leagues for a while) and I think Lavey won the league one year, Skull could probably tell you better.

It's when they get to the senior grade and start playing football that the skill eventually leaves, I didn't say they were dirty in my posts, I said they are more physical and their Antrim cousins, no malice in my post just an observation from my experience. There have been some cracking hurlers over the years and when they beat Antrim in the Ulster final that team was as good a second tier team as you would have found, which (as a mad hurling fan) leaves me raging as they have the tools but don't have the commitment.

CSC believe it or not but Belfast is a football 'County' where one club (Rossa) is mainly considered a hurling club. Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall are not teams that I'd consider lack balls when trying to win the ball. You can be a hard foolish man going for a ball or a hard smart man and win the ball another way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 14, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
Balls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: manballandall on October 14, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
Balls

Which bit my good friend? you played them I put you on one game up there few years ago lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:30:35 PM
Talking about Derry hurlers, I always thought that Henry Downey was a super player, even better than he was as a footballer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on October 14, 2013, 08:45:09 PM
Sorry bad timing. That was in reply to CSC not your good self . All about timing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:30:35 PM
Talking about Derry hurlers, I always thought that Henry Downey was a super player, even better than he was as a footballer.

There was a rake of great Derry hurlers, Downey from Lavey up there with the best out of Ulster. But  that team he was involved with was winning All Irelands it's hard to compete with. Think Lavey won a club all Ireland in 90's and were unlucky in a few Ulster hurling club finals

Quote from: manballandall on October 14, 2013, 08:45:09 PM
Sorry bad timing. That was in reply to CSC not your good self . All about timing

So she was saying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on October 14, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
Milltown Row2

I understand your point about "County Belfast", but I always felt that hurling had a really strong foundation in the city, for eg Rossa, and St Johns(along with St Marys CBS), and to a lesser extent St Galls, St Pauls, Sarsfields all seemed to have a strong hurling fraturnity that put hurling first.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on October 14, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
manballandall

Not my opinion, but I do find the obvious naturally biased opinions interesting (Antrim towards Derry, and Derry towards Antrim)

I played both codes, so I got stick on both, which basically centered on the colour of our jersey ans the size of the pair in the shorts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:30:35 PM
Talking about Derry hurlers, I always thought that Henry Downey was a super player, even better than he was as a footballer.

There was a rake of great Derry hurlers, Downey from Lavey up there with the best out of Ulster. But  that team he was involved with was winning All Irelands it's hard to compete with. Think Lavey won a club all Ireland in 90's and were unlucky in a few Ulster hurling club finals


Lavey won 2 Ulster club football titles and 1 All-Ireland in the early 1990s and with that and the county football team you're right there was no competition. I think Henry Downey was a hurling man as much as a football man though. His brother Seamus wasn't bad either and Olly Collins was decent too. Lavey were a fairly rough football team, I was in Draperstown when they lost to a Cork team in the All Ireland club football semi, they were over the top with their behaviour that day to say the least. Did they not have run in or two with Dunloy in the Ulster Club hurling?, can't quite recall as I had left home by then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on October 14, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Glens73
The following players were all considered hurling men (better at hurling)
Henry Downey
Seamus Downey
Collie McGurk
Tony Scullion
Brian Magillian
Kieran McKeever

while the follwoing were pretty handy hurlers
Johnny McGurk, Joe Brolly, Brian McCormack,

All these lads were on the 93 panel, which diverted their attention away from the small ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:30:35 PM
Talking about Derry hurlers, I always thought that Henry Downey was a super player, even better than he was as a footballer.

There was a rake of great Derry hurlers, Downey from Lavey up there with the best out of Ulster. But  that team he was involved with was winning All Irelands it's hard to compete with. Think Lavey won a club all Ireland in 90's and were unlucky in a few Ulster hurling club finals


Lavey won 2 Ulster club football titles and 1 All-Ireland in the early 1990s and with that and the county football team you're right there was no competition. I think Henry Downey was a hurling man as much as a football man though. His brother Seamus wasn't bad either and Olly Collins was decent too. Lavey were a fairly rough football team, I was in Draperstown when they lost to a Cork team in the All Ireland club football semi, they were over the top with their behaviour that day to say the least. Did they not have run in or two with Dunloy in the Ulster Club hurling?, can't quite recall as I had left home by then.

That's putting it mildly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: CSC on October 14, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Glens73
The following players were all considered hurling men (better at hurling)
Henry Downey
Seamus Downey
Collie McGurk
Tony Scullion
Brian Magillian
Kieran McKeever

while the follwoing were pretty handy hurlers
Johnny McGurk, Joe Brolly, Brian McCormack,

All these lads were on the 93 panel, which diverted their attention away from the small ball

Are you sure about him? Scullion was a fabulous footballer, best corner back in the country for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
Quote from: glens73 on October 14, 2013, 08:30:35 PM
Talking about Derry hurlers, I always thought that Henry Downey was a super player, even better than he was as a footballer.

There was a rake of great Derry hurlers, Downey from Lavey up there with the best out of Ulster. But  that team he was involved with was winning All Irelands it's hard to compete with. Think Lavey won a club all Ireland in 90's and were unlucky in a few Ulster hurling club finals


Lavey won 2 Ulster club football titles and 1 All-Ireland in the early 1990s and with that and the county football team you're right there was no competition. I think Henry Downey was a hurling man as much as a football man though. His brother Seamus wasn't bad either and Olly Collins was decent too. Lavey were a fairly rough football team, I was in Draperstown when they lost to a Cork team in the All Ireland club football semi, they were over the top with their behaviour that day to say the least. Did they not have run in or two with Dunloy in the Ulster Club hurling?, can't quite recall as I had left home by then.

That's putting it mildly.

I didn't go to those games so I only recall talk of it at the time with family. They certainly weren't shrinking violets on the football field so it's no surprise. I used to work with a fella from Bellaghy and his hatred of all things Lavey was intense to say the least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
That's putting it mildly.

(http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~sivasothi/articles/mudskipper/photos/050a.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
That's putting it mildly.

(http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~sivasothi/articles/mudskipper/photos/050a.jpg)

:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 14, 2013, 09:06:22 PM
That's putting it mildly.

(http://staff.science.nus.edu.sg/~sivasothi/articles/mudskipper/photos/050a.jpg)

let sleeping dogs lie, yeah I hear ya, I was diplomatic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 10:12:09 PM
Yeah..can we get back to the BGaels discussion  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 10:12:09 PM
Yeah..can we get back to the BGaels discussion  :)

Yeah that was a fairy tale story lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
There certainly was a woodcutter in the story.....although I can't remember if he was meant to give the damsel a Glasgow kiss  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 15, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on October 14, 2013, 06:51:27 PM
Geez Johnney, you've a short memory about Devlin. You had him to thank for for winning the Ulster Club title in 98/99 when he played on deep into added time until the Galget got an equaliser to take the final to a reply. Ballycastle (who were there by default) were raging with him and you won the replay.

Have to say you are spot on with most of your observations and your analysis is normally excellent, but you should be more grateful to Gereard Devlin!

P.S. Bredagh are looking for a new coach/manager. Interested?

We won the replay in extra time after losing a man in ordinary time very harshly on a bog of a pitch at Corrigan.
My memory must have slipped if Devlin did us a good turn as he certainly got us back when playing Rossa in the club final where big magic was cut to ribbons and didn't get a free the whole day.
I also witnessed him playing almost 7 minutes of extra time to allow an Antrim U-21 team to beat Down who were holding onto a point lead in Ballycran, how he managed to get out of there in one piece remained a mystery to me.

JA Gribben was the best referee, eh Skull??

On the lavey thing, the best hurler they had was big Ollie Collins, Seamus was a better hurler than Henry and the McGurks were good hurlers too, but were more interested in winding up their opponents which led to johnny McGurk getting a dig in the mouth from Spike Baille when we played them once down in an Ulster semi-final in Lavey, ah those were the days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on October 15, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
So the Ulster SHC final is off again. Ulster Council are less than useless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 15, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
JA Gribben was the best referee, eh Skull??

On the lavey thing, the best hurler they had was big Ollie Collins, Seamus was a better hurler than Henry and the McGurks were good hurlers too, but were more interested in winding up their opponents which led to johnny McGurk getting a dig in the mouth from Spike Baille when we played them once down in an Ulster semi-final in Lavey, ah those were the days.

John Anthony and Ger Devlin ... the best referees in their respective counties for more years than I care to remember

Lavey were a tough outfit. Plenty of top hurlers although never 15 of them. Tactically very astute but as JC said, were too interested in sledging to help get them over the line. Some of them had no shame when the ball was thrown in..all part of the game in their book...not everyone would agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2013, 10:17:44 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on October 15, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
So the Ulster SHC final is off again. Ulster Council are less than useless
To be played in 2014 apparently  ;D Couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2013, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 15, 2013, 10:37:52 PM
That is a complete disgrace. They really don't give one single fcuk about hurling and are not shy about letting the world know it.

Embarrassing.

Ah sure the Ulster Council have loads of "tireless" workers working away for them. It will probably be a curtain raiser to a minor football game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
The same boys will have got tickets for all the big matches in Croker and black-tie events pressing the flesh of the great and the good from the hurling community in the south and talking balls about how the are supporting the small ball in the north. Load of shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 16, 2013, 08:47:40 AM
The Ulster hurling cship is in danger of dying off if it keeps going in current format. I know this would be a nightmare for the fixture men but I would propose that it is played off before the Leinster cship and the winners of the Ulster cship play in the Leinster. That would give it back a bit of credibility and something worth playing for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 09:00:25 AM
The ring and rackard trophies are played off almost directly after the national leagues are over, so there's no space there for the Ulster championship.

It's as meaningless as the Mckenna cup now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
Time for Antrim down and Derry to forget about the ulster championship.
Let the other 6 counties compete for it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
The same boys will have got tickets for all the big matches in Croker and black-tie events pressing the flesh of the great and the good from the hurling community in the south and talking balls about how the are supporting the small ball in the north. Load of shite.

For them boys - that exactly what hurling is all about.
Shameless mercenaries making a livelihood and profiling themselves out of our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
Time for Antrim down and Derry to forget about the ulster championship.
Let the other 6 counties compete for it?

I think this time came long ago.
Remember the shambles surrounding NY refusing to travel also.
Its pathetic. And Ulster Council are happy to see it die - unless they want to have dinner or get votes from a hurling officianado from the South.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 10:34:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
The same boys will have got tickets for all the big matches in Croker and black-tie events pressing the flesh of the great and the good from the hurling community in the south and talking balls about how the are supporting the small ball in the north. Load of shite.

For them boys - that exactly what hurling is all about.
Shameless mercenaries making a livelihood and profiling themselves out of our games.

Sure they'll promote the small ball, but once there's a conflict with the big ball then you know where the priorities lie.

Once the initial date was moved this was always going to be a mess, but why was the date in November then scrapped altogether?

As for the Ulster championship it has its place, possibly without Antrim who're still a good bit stronger than Down, Derry or Armagh.
What benefit is it to Antrim hurling, straight into a final and more often than not, a 10 plus point victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
Time for Antrim down and Derry to forget about the ulster championship.
Let the other 6 counties compete for it?

Yeah that be a better idea, for more competitive if we had Carlow Laois  Westmeath Offaly Wexford, though they would think different, Scrap the provincial finals and have a seeded competition  based on the league positions, they play off with a chance to meet the seeded teams in the quarter finals.

While this year was great in terms of hurling I believe this would be great to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
I agree it would be great MR2 but it goes back to a point I made earlier.

There's no chance of the big teams doing away with the Munster championship!

Their loyalty is to themselves and developing lesser counties is not their concern - they're doing just fine as it is!

Such a scenario would have to be forced by Croke Park - and the will just isn't there.

We've got to help ourselves and not look round us.
After all - the powers that be have not only let us into Leinster, but re-structured it, to help counties like us.
Can we really complain looking for too much more?
Less begging bowl looking for every other county to change things to suit us - do something ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
The open draw possibly is a good idea but there's no way Munster would forgo their final. It has to much history and tradition for them to scrap it.

As said before they have restructured the Leinster to suit ourselves and it's up to antrim to either push forward or bitch and moan that no one cares about us.

I would let tr ulster championship go ahead without Antrim and down. Derry hurling could do with an improvement and competing in it along with the rest of ulster and maybe London as well would be a good competition. Also make sure that all the minor and U21 compete at each grade. If the ulster council is serious about promoting the game then they need to do something instead of foaming at the mouth over football each season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
The open draw possibly is a good idea but there's no way Munster would forgo their final. It has to much history and tradition for them to scrap it.

As said before they have restructured the Leinster to suit ourselves and it's up to antrim to either push forward or bitch and moan that no one cares about us.

I would let tr ulster championship go ahead without Antrim and down. Derry hurling could do with an improvement and competing in it along with the rest of ulster and maybe London as well would be a good competition. Also make sure that all the minor and U21 compete at each grade. If the ulster council is serious about promoting the game then they need to do something instead of foaming at the mouth over football each season.

+1
They prolong the Ulster football championship by refusing to play two rounds in the same weekend - but cant fit a single date for the hurling final.
Says it all.
Forget about Ulster council and do our own thing - and again quit this crying for help by expecting everyone to change to suit us. We're irrelevant in the big picture until we sort it out ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
The open draw possibly is a good idea but there's no way Munster would forgo their final. It has to much history and tradition for them to scrap it.

As said before they have restructured the Leinster to suit ourselves and it's up to antrim to either push forward or bitch and moan that no one cares about us.

I would let tr ulster championship go ahead without Antrim and down. Derry hurling could do with an improvement and competing in it along with the rest of ulster and maybe London as well would be a good competition. Also make sure that all the minor and U21 compete at each grade. If the ulster council is serious about promoting the game then they need to do something instead of foaming at the mouth over football each season.

+1
They prolong the Ulster football championship by refusing to play two rounds in the same weekend - but cant fit a single date for the hurling final.
Says it all.
Forget about Ulster council and do our own thing - and again quit this crying for help by expecting everyone to change to suit us. We're irrelevant in the big picture until we sort it out ourselves.

But you can't go it alone, who interviewed (foregone conclusions) and approved the full time county secretaries?
Who'll not say one bad word about their pay masters?
Who funds and maintains all the full time coaches floating around the province?

We're fúcked whichever way we turn.

For every good idea that comes out in relation to hurling in Ulster is always watered down to suit footballing counties and squeezed in around it.

The likes of the Ulster Feiles are very good, but what then for U-16's, minors etc, etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 16, 2013, 02:13:15 PM
Ref Ulster Final: Even though Derry arent in it the Derry Board will be rubbing their hands with delight, this is in line with their underlying vision for hurling ie pay lip service but  fecking hope it dies a death in the long run.
Derry Intermediate Final hasnt even been played yet, with no date on the horizon!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on October 16, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
You only have to look at the homepage of the Ulster Council, across the banner at the top it shows 2 FIRST ROUND football fixtures, 1 senior 1 intermediate, with the times and venues, yet NOTHING about the hurling FINALS on this weekend. Shows exactly where their priorities lie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sheamy on October 16, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on October 16, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
You only have to look at the homepage of the Ulster Council, across the banner at the top it shows 2 FIRST ROUND football fixtures, 1 senior 1 intermediate, with the times and venues, yet NOTHING about the hurling FINALS on this weekend. Shows exactly where their priorities lie

Are the hurling finals not on the following weekend (27th)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on October 16, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: sheamy on October 16, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on October 16, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
You only have to look at the homepage of the Ulster Council, across the banner at the top it shows 2 FIRST ROUND football fixtures, 1 senior 1 intermediate, with the times and venues, yet NOTHING about the hurling FINALS on this weekend. Shows exactly where their priorities lie

Are the hurling finals not on the following weekend (27th)?

Doh!! But they're still f£ckers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2013, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
The open draw possibly is a good idea but there's no way Munster would forgo their final. It has to much history and tradition for them to scrap it.

As said before they have restructured the Leinster to suit ourselves and it's up to antrim to either push forward or bitch and moan that no one cares about us.

I would let tr ulster championship go ahead without Antrim and down. Derry hurling could do with an improvement and competing in it along with the rest of ulster and maybe London as well would be a good competition. Also make sure that all the minor and U21 compete at each grade. If the ulster council is serious about promoting the game then they need to do something instead of foaming at the mouth over football each season.

+1
They prolong the Ulster football championship by refusing to play two rounds in the same weekend - but cant fit a single date for the hurling final.
Says it all.
Forget about Ulster council and do our own thing - and again quit this crying for help by expecting everyone to change to suit us. We're irrelevant in the big picture until we sort it out ourselves.

But you can't go it alone, who interviewed (foregone conclusions) and approved the full time county secretaries?
Who'll not say one bad word about their pay masters?
Who funds and maintains all the full time coaches floating around the province?

We're fúcked whichever way we turn.

For every good idea that comes out in relation to hurling in Ulster is always watered down to suit footballing counties and squeezed in around it.

The likes of the Ulster Feiles are very good, but what then for U-16's, minors etc, etc?

When I say "on our own" I mean we gotta sort things out within our county to become more competitive - not that we "go it alone"

Your other points on the salaried officials are so true - it's just a wee boys club taking a few quid and accountable to nobody. Their initials appointments were dubious at best and the term value for money is a long way off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:25:26 AM
A visit to the Rossa hurley maker was fun yesterday!

SiE - I notice the ref that the Shamrocks were not happy with in Portaferry had the issue addressed?
He's been appointed to take them again 2 weeks running as they look for points to stay up!

Also - the lad who was pictured in the CAP pulling a hurl at the guys head?
He played against Rossa the following week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:25:26 AM
A visit to the Rossa hurley maker was fun yesterday!

SiE - I notice the ref that the Shamrocks were not happy with in Portaferry had the issue addressed?
He's been appointed to take them again 2 weeks running as they look for points to stay up!

Also - the lad who was pictured in the CAP pulling a hurl at the guys head?
He played against Rossa the following week!
"farcical"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stibhan on October 18, 2013, 04:13:56 PM
Is the whole Mike Nesbitt/Loughgiel thing a joke?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.

My point was more about how often does a ref officiate the same team 2 weeks running
- especially when there were questions over his 1st performance.
Surely it would have been easier to assign another ref?
The game itself is not the issue - it's how why this ref appointment was made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 06:30:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.

My point was more about how often does a ref officiate the same team 2 weeks running
- especially when there were questions over his 1st performance.
Surely it would have been easier to assign another ref?
The game itself is not the issue - it's how why this ref appointment was made.

Referees are appointed by the referee committee, I'm sure it's down to availability location and other factors (experience fitness...) A lad was unfortunate to break his thumb in a game the referee did not set out that day to allow that to happen, only according to the Loughgiel ones who were there the lad could have been carded long before the incident and maybe this would have curtailed him, maybe not, it's still not Hugh's fault.  I've refereed Lamhs 2 games in a row so I don't think there is a policy of refereeing the same team in separate weeks, Why would you think that that should be in place?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 18, 2013, 07:30:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
What are you implying? A Down man taking a team playing a  relegated team already.

My point was more about how often does a ref officiate the same team 2 weeks running
- especially when there were questions over his 1st performance.
Surely it would have been easier to assign another ref?
The game itself is not the issue - it's how why this ref appointment was made.

For a man that watches very little games unless its round the corner at shaws rd and always has an excuse for not getting out to them between the wife and kids or some other futile story your big on expertise and opinions. How the FCK do you know how Hugh performed, talk the talk but never did the walk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb

PJ had can article in the Gaelic life about the referring of the game.

And your players were through red cards which is not exactly the same thing as loughgiel with joey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb

PJ had can article in the Gaelic life about the referring of the game.

And your players were through red cards which is not exactly the same thing as loughgiel with joey.

Still without them, big enough panel to work with like Loughgiel, as said no loss till Feb. Managers should not go to press and not give off about referees. They will not exactly make them the referees best mate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
I've been to as many games in North Antrim this year as a dedicated caravaner but I will tell the wife u were asking and if Shaws road was round the corner my diesel but might be less! But whatever - I don't need to explain what games I watch to a knob like u.
I will leave the personal stuff to your infant mentality MIBAG.

Mr2 - my point isn't about Hugh at all. I've always found him to be grand ref.
it's about perception.
Firstly I rarely see big PJ complain in the media so I'm guessing he let go a bit more that just a slap on joey scullion.
Secondly, even if that is the case, why did the refs committee and just appoint someone different when I've no doubt they could. When an issue hits media or gets attention - just be pragmatic.
If Rossa were to lose by a point and complain they suffered like loughgiel I'm sure glenarrife might not be too happy! Altho league standings will of course reflect the whole year not one game.

It's not a big issue - and I expect ports to win easy - I'm just saying why not change the ref when u can? Or is there a reason?

Well more importantly - anyone know much about these Tuesday meetings and workshops the county are having?
Will they have any effect on next year?
Or are they just talking shops?

This isn't the media, this is just a very small forum with about 30 poster from Antrim on it. Though if you believed the hype you'd think there where thousands on it. A lot of hearsay and posts are blown out of proportion by others.

The slap resulted in a broken thumb, intention was there, it happens, all heightened because Loughgiel are in the Ulster final without him, Id be raging to, we lost two of our main players the week before while playing in a sevens competition but we just got on with it. The big game will be in Feb

PJ had can article in the Gaelic life about the referring of the game.

And your players were through red cards which is not exactly the same thing as loughgiel with joey.

Still without them, big enough panel to work with like Loughgiel, as said no loss till Feb. Managers should not go to press and not give off about referees. They will not exactly make them the referees best mate.

Agreed.
But I think loughgiel's beef is more comaradarie with joey for an injury received in "a lesser game".
He'll be grand for February. 
And won't have to face ballyhale!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)


Btw, the referee wasn't mentioned by pj in the article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

There seems to be a notion that criticising refs is unsportsmanlike of for bad losers.

Loughgiel were within their rights to express the opinion that a lad has a broken hand and no work. Especially if it was a result of a team taking free ones at a top team. The fact loughgiel won the game makes their point less more evident.

I know we could all blame refs all the time - and I don't wish to sound like that - but sometimes the criticism is valid. And not blowing hot air.

My original point was just that on the back if this it may have been more expedient to appoint a different ref to portaferry the following week when this is easily done.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 18, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

There seems to be a notion that criticising refs is unsportsmanlike of for bad losers.

Loughgiel were within their rights to express the opinion that a lad has a broken hand and no work. Especially if it was a result of a team taking free ones at a top team. The fact loughgiel won the game makes their point less more evident.

I know we could all blame refs all the time - and I don't wish to sound like that - but sometimes the criticism is valid. And not blowing hot air.

My original point was just that on the back if this it may have been more expedient to appoint a different ref to portaferry the following week when this is easily done.
as I edited in to my last post, the referee wasn't mentioned in the Gaelic  life article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved
The referee wasn't mentioned in the article by pj. But why let facts get in the way of a good rant .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved
The referee wasn't mentioned in the article by pj.

As I said it doesn't take a dick to find out who the referee was, one click away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved
The referee wasn't mentioned in the article by pj.

As I said it doesn't take a dick to find out who the referee was, one click away
nor was the refereeing.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 10:41:58 PM
Best to say nothing and let it all be swept under the carpet,  lest we upset the ref fraternity and their infallibility.  ;)

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved
The referee wasn't mentioned in the article by pj.

As I said it doesn't take a dick to find out who the referee was, one click away
nor was the refereeing.  ;)

I suppose when all else fails and the team loses, the referee is the easy target
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
The only person who mentioned the referee, or refereeing, in that article was the portaferry source. Yes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
The only person who mentioned the referee, or refereeing, in that article was the portaferry source. Yes?

SIE, again would it be difficult to work out from the article who the referee was? It's logged on the Antrim website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
The only person who mentioned the referee, or refereeing, in that article was the portaferry source. Yes?

SIE, again would it be difficult to work out from the article who the referee was? It's logged on the Antrim website
So what? That has got nothing to do with my point. The referee nor his actions, or lack of, were referred to in the article by PJ.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
Judge for yourself:

http://gaeliclife.com/2013/10/loughgiel-boss-disgusted-by-treatment-of-player/

LOUGHGIEL manager PJ O'Mullan has said that he was, "Disgusted," by the actions that led to Joey Scullion's injury in a league match against Portaferry last weekend. The Shamrocks player faces 10 weeks on the sidelines after breaking his hand in their game and will be missing for this weekend's Ulster semi-final against Ballygalget. "We got a bad injury last Sunday, Joey Scullion is out," said O'Mullan. "Joey broke his hand and we're actually pretty annoyed and disgusted by it to be honest. "We were down in Portaferry for a league game and with all due respect to Portaferry, they put no effort in to trying to play any hurling. They were continually playing the man and blocking the hand and pulling at the hand. "Joey plays with his right hand at the top of the stick and catches with his left, but got his right hand broken. "We're disgusted. I don't normally get cross, but I was very, very cross last Sunday." Portaferry, however, have said that any disciplinary issues would have been noted by the referee. "We are in middle of relegation battle and were certainly there to play hurling and try and win the points," the club told Gaelic Life. "Any decisions on matters relating to the play in the match are dealt with by the officiating referee, who I'm sure will have already submitted his report to Antrim County Board."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
Judge for yourself:

http://gaeliclife.com/2013/10/loughgiel-boss-disgusted-by-treatment-of-player/

LOUGHGIEL manager PJ O'Mullan has said that he was, "Disgusted," by the actions that led to Joey Scullion's injury in a league match against Portaferry last weekend. The Shamrocks player faces 10 weeks on the sidelines after breaking his hand in their game and will be missing for this weekend's Ulster semi-final against Ballygalget. "We got a bad injury last Sunday, Joey Scullion is out," said O'Mullan. "Joey broke his hand and we're actually pretty annoyed and disgusted by it to be honest. "We were down in Portaferry for a league game and with all due respect to Portaferry, they put no effort in to trying to play any hurling. They were continually playing the man and blocking the hand and pulling at the hand. "Joey plays with his right hand at the top of the stick and catches with his left, but got his right hand broken. "We're disgusted. I don't normally get cross, but I was very, very cross last Sunday." Portaferry, however, have said that any disciplinary issues would have been noted by the referee. "We are in middle of relegation battle and were certainly there to play hurling and try and win the points," the club told Gaelic Life. "Any decisions on matters relating to the play in the match are dealt with by the officiating referee, who I'm sure will have already submitted his report to Antrim County Board."

So if the manager isn't complaining about the referee why was it an issue on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:54:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
Judge for yourself:

http://gaeliclife.com/2013/10/loughgiel-boss-disgusted-by-treatment-of-player/

LOUGHGIEL manager PJ O'Mullan has said that he was, "Disgusted," by the actions that led to Joey Scullion's injury in a league match against Portaferry last weekend. The Shamrocks player faces 10 weeks on the sidelines after breaking his hand in their game and will be missing for this weekend's Ulster semi-final against Ballygalget. "We got a bad injury last Sunday, Joey Scullion is out," said O'Mullan. "Joey broke his hand and we're actually pretty annoyed and disgusted by it to be honest. "We were down in Portaferry for a league game and with all due respect to Portaferry, they put no effort in to trying to play any hurling. They were continually playing the man and blocking the hand and pulling at the hand. "Joey plays with his right hand at the top of the stick and catches with his left, but got his right hand broken. "We're disgusted. I don't normally get cross, but I was very, very cross last Sunday." Portaferry, however, have said that any disciplinary issues would have been noted by the referee. "We are in middle of relegation battle and were certainly there to play hurling and try and win the points," the club told Gaelic Life. "Any decisions on matters relating to the play in the match are dealt with by the officiating referee, who I'm sure will have already submitted his report to Antrim County Board."

So if the manager isn't complaining about the referee why was it an issue on here?
People at the match, supporters, club members will post what they perceive to be fact on here. It isn't the same as a manager slating a referee in the press, which did not happen. That's my point. PJ did not slate the referee in the press as yourself and btdtgtt alluded to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:19:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Why? who went to the press?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:31:31 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:19:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Why? who went to the press?

I questioned btdtgtt's post he said he went to the press I said that going to the press was wrong!!!! circles. I didn't know either way as I didn't read the article I basically responded to his post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:47:26 AM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 19, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
Sorry lads went for a pint.

I realise PJ didn't actually mention ref - altho it didn't take much to read between lines. Must have been in my head from reading here too.

Anyway - apologies I can see getting a but tedious so will leave it 

Time to hit the sack.
Have a good weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Tout. You're too long out of W. Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2013, 04:54:39 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Tout. You're too long out of W. Belfast.

Mr2  and  btdtgtt, it did seem like a case of he said it first..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on October 20, 2013, 08:50:17 AM
Is pjs word gospel there was a clash for the ball and a guy got a belt it happens there was no intention he doesn't mention the stroke by one of his his own players across a fellas head blew out of all proportion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2013, 04:54:39 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
I'm sure this is riveting stuff for the other posters on here.   :P

btdtgtt alluded to PJ and refereeing not me, I questioned that going to the press is wrong
Tout. You're too long out of W. Belfast.

Mr2  and  btdtgtt, it did seem like a case of he said it first..

btdtgtt brought it up!! I'm innocent I tell ya
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2013, 12:36:27 PM
You touched it last mr2!
Now it's my ball and I'm away home!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not a reporter.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not a reporter.  ;)

Only sing when you're winning only sing when you're winning!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2013, 09:23:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 18, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
Judge for yourself:

http://gaeliclife.com/2013/10/loughgiel-boss-disgusted-by-treatment-of-player/

LOUGHGIEL manager PJ O'Mullan has said that he was, "Disgusted," by the actions that led to Joey Scullion's injury in a league match against Portaferry last weekend. The Shamrocks player faces 10 weeks on the sidelines after breaking his hand in their game and will be missing for this weekend's Ulster semi-final against Ballygalget. "We got a bad injury last Sunday, Joey Scullion is out," said O'Mullan. "Joey broke his hand and we're actually pretty annoyed and disgusted by it to be honest. "We were down in Portaferry for a league game and with all due respect to Portaferry, they put no effort in to trying to play any hurling. They were continually playing the man and blocking the hand and pulling at the hand. "Joey plays with his right hand at the top of the stick and catches with his left, but got his right hand broken. "We're disgusted. I don't normally get cross, but I was very, very cross last Sunday." Portaferry, however, have said that any disciplinary issues would have been noted by the referee. "We are in middle of relegation battle and were certainly there to play hurling and try and win the points," the club told Gaelic Life. "Any decisions on matters relating to the play in the match are dealt with by the officiating referee, who I'm sure will have already submitted his report to Antrim County Board."

I'm sure you'd no doubt be pretty pissed off if you went up for a catch and got the hand on the hurl broke which more often than not is 3 feet away from the ball if you're trying to protect your catching hand.

PJ's article was more geared towards Portaferrys attitude than any dig at the referee IMO. I think some of the posters on here had bigger digs at the referee.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:04:52 PM

So was it the referees fault or the player that did it? Going to the press (or saying to the press) is wrong and any dick can find out who the referee is via the website.

Should the referee who refereed Antrim V Down in the Ulster final be in the same bracket when Watson broke Wilson's knee? How nothing was done about that when it was so blatant is beyond me. Again from my angle it was easy to spot, the referee maybe just didn't see it that way :o

Things happen in games all the time every week, if the referee doesn't see it he's the worst in the world by the team who feels most aggrieved

I believe PJ reminded Simon of this incident when he was up managing Ballycran in the league this year, Nice.

Oh, the Ports won yesterday, same points as Glenariffe, is it head to heads or score difference?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
Either way Portaferry trump us, better scoring difference and we both beat each other, but they beat us by more in their home match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 21, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
I see we're down to play Rossa in November and a few other fixtures around this time, right to the 10th of November. Is there any benefit in this?

One more win will seal the league for Loughgeil and they've Rossa to play as well, why not play it first and forget about the rest?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 21, 2013, 11:22:50 AM
Minder - the county website has your lads ahead of Portaferry?

JC - That would seem the obvious order to play fixtures in - and asap.

Whats the story with Simon Wilson / Winker / PJ
Not gossiping it just news to me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 21, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
I see we're down to play Rossa in November and a few other fixtures around this time, right to the 10th of November. Is there any benefit in this?

One more win will seal the league for Loughgeil and they've Rossa to play as well, why not play it first and forget about the rest?

These fixtures are in place and if clubs can agree on a date I'm sure the CCC will facilitate this, we played Gorts yesterday to secure the league. It's actually the first time we have won the league outright since 87!! We'd went up and down due to restructuring of the leagues over the years. Not to put a bad view on this league campaign but it was very poor in terms of standards.

We'd need to do pre season now if we are to have any chance of staying up next year, I thought Rossa would have done well this year with the players they have at their disposal but maybe the gap is getting bigger, top 4 teams far better than the middle teams who are 10 points better than the bottom teams!!

Thats me with a league medal for div 4,3, and 2 now!! worst medal haul ever!! Reserve league here I come
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 21, 2013, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D
Is that why St.Killians hit 16 wides?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D

Pat is doing great work and fair play to him, was in the States with him back in 93, he was working the boardwalk and playing football at the weekends has been teaching there ever since I think. Plenty of hurling brains down that direction I'm sure that could lend a hand.

Two football men looking after school hurling teams in the heartland of Antrim hurling!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:56:26 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 21, 2013, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D
Is that why St.Killians hit 16 wides?
When a team is as physically prepared as an average garron tower team, there was no gameplan as such and many wides where from bad angles in which you would expect a team to create a better scoring opportunity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2013, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D

Pat is doing great work and fair play to him, was in the States with him back in 93, he was working the boardwalk and playing football at the weekends has been teaching there ever since I think. Plenty of hurling brains down that direction I'm sure that could lend a hand.

Two football men looking after school hurling teams in the heartland of Antrim hurling!!

He is only at St Killians/Garron Tower the last few years, was at St Aloysius in Cushendall until it closed. Michael McAllister from our club is along with Pat Slevin taking the teams, and he has as good a head on him as you would find. I think Roger Casement knows this and is having a thinly veiled dig.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2013, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: RandyRogerCasement on October 21, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
What is the view on Cassidys bullying tactics to young players in the Magean semi-final against s.t Killians.
Would just like to make a mention for big Pat Slevin, the Tyrone man has brought Garron tower a new lease of life. If he had someone with more of a hurling brain they would have won. Fair play to CPC, keep it in Antrim. ;D

Pat is doing great work and fair play to him, was in the States with him back in 93, he was working the boardwalk and playing football at the weekends has been teaching there ever since I think. Plenty of hurling brains down that direction I'm sure that could lend a hand.

Two football men looking after school hurling teams in the heartland of Antrim hurling!!

He is only at St Killians/Garron Tower the last few years, was at St Aloysius in Cushendall until it closed. Michael McAllister from our club is along with Pat Slevin taking the teams, and he has as good a head on him as you would find. I think Roger Casement knows this and is having a thinly veiled dig.

I mean teaching in the Glens, I knew he was in Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2013, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not a reporter.  ;)

Only sing when you're winning only sing when you're winning!!
Plus I wasn't at it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2013, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not a reporter.  ;)

Only sing when you're winning only sing when you're winning!!
Plus I wasn't at it.  ;)

Championships only supporter?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2013, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 21, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 21, 2013, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 20, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm not a reporter.  ;)

Only sing when you're winning only sing when you're winning!!
Plus I wasn't at it.  ;)

Championships only supporter?  ;)
I'm a busy man, MR2. Double busy.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on October 22, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
I have to say that as a Loughguile man and Glensman I find the login name in use here to be deeply offensive. Knowing the suffering and sacrifice that Roger  Casement endured for his country, not to mention his work for human rights, in the Belgian Congo and the Putamayas. I appeal to other posters, to support a request to the site moderator to strike out, this miserable attempt at humour.  Roger Casements support for the GAA, Gaelic league, IRB, National volunteers etc., is well known. His attendance at the first Feis na Gleann, where he gave every single visitor from Rachaire island, a single sovereign, as they got off the boats was remembered right down to the 1960's. It is not for nothing that the GAA gave his name to their headquarters in Belfast. Irrespective of what people thought of the information fed out on Roger Casement by the then british home secretary F. E. Smith (also known as galloper Smith), to ensure his hanging, we do know that Smith died of Syphillis. Furthermore members of his family still live in the area 
and is another reason that this gratuitous offence should not be tolerated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 22, 2013, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Clan Colla on October 22, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
I have to say that as a Loughguile man and Glensman I find the login name in use here to be deeply offensive. Knowing the suffering and sacrifice that Roger  Casement endured for his country, not to mention his work for human rights, in the Belgian Congo and the Putamayas. I appeal to other posters, to support a request to the site moderator to strike out, this miserable attempt at humour.  Roger Casements support for the GAA, Gaelic league, IRB, National volunteers etc., is well known. His attendance at the first Feis na Gleann, where he gave every single visitor from Rachaire island, a single sovereign, as they got off the boats was remembered right down to the 1960's. It is not for nothing that the GAA gave his name to their headquarters in Belfast. Irrespective of what people thought of the information fed out on Roger Casement by the then british home secretary F. E. Smith (also known as galloper Smith), to ensure his hanging, we do know that Smith died of Syphillis. Furthermore members of his family still live in the area 
and is another reason that this gratuitous offence should not be tolerated

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 22, 2013, 04:20:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 22, 2013, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Clan Colla on October 22, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
I have to say that as a Loughguile man and Glensman I find the login name in use here to be deeply offensive. Knowing the suffering and sacrifice that Roger  Casement endured for his country, not to mention his work for human rights, in the Belgian Congo and the Putamayas. I appeal to other posters, to support a request to the site moderator to strike out, this miserable attempt at humour.  Roger Casements support for the GAA, Gaelic league, IRB, National volunteers etc., is well known. His attendance at the first Feis na Gleann, where he gave every single visitor from Rachaire island, a single sovereign, as they got off the boats was remembered right down to the 1960's. It is not for nothing that the GAA gave his name to their headquarters in Belfast. Irrespective of what people thought of the information fed out on Roger Casement by the then british home secretary F. E. Smith (also known as galloper Smith), to ensure his hanging, we do know that Smith died of Syphillis. Furthermore members of his family still live in the area 
and is another reason that this gratuitous offence should not be tolerated

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i agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 22, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Clan Colla on October 22, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
I have to say that as a Loughguile man and Glensman I find the login name in use here to be deeply offensive. Knowing the suffering and sacrifice that Roger  Casement endured for his country, not to mention his work for human rights, in the Belgian Congo and the Putamayas. I appeal to other posters, to support a request to the site moderator to strike out, this miserable attempt at humour.  Roger Casements support for the GAA, Gaelic league, IRB, National volunteers etc., is well known. His attendance at the first Feis na Gleann, where he gave every single visitor from Rachaire island, a single sovereign, as they got off the boats was remembered right down to the 1960's. It is not for nothing that the GAA gave his name to their headquarters in Belfast. Irrespective of what people thought of the information fed out on Roger Casement by the then british home secretary F. E. Smith (also known as galloper Smith), to ensure his hanging, we do know that Smith died of Syphillis. Furthermore members of his family still live in the area 
and is another reason that this gratuitous offence should not be tolerated
agreed!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 22, 2013, 06:10:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 22, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Clan Colla on October 22, 2013, 12:04:43 AM
I have to say that as a Loughguile man and Glensman I find the login name in use here to be deeply offensive. Knowing the suffering and sacrifice that Roger  Casement endured for his country, not to mention his work for human rights, in the Belgian Congo and the Putamayas. I appeal to other posters, to support a request to the site moderator to strike out, this miserable attempt at humour.  Roger Casements support for the GAA, Gaelic league, IRB, National volunteers etc., is well known. His attendance at the first Feis na Gleann, where he gave every single visitor from Rachaire island, a single sovereign, as they got off the boats was remembered right down to the 1960's. It is not for nothing that the GAA gave his name to their headquarters in Belfast. Irrespective of what people thought of the information fed out on Roger Casement by the then british home secretary F. E. Smith (also known as galloper Smith), to ensure his hanging, we do know that Smith died of Syphillis. Furthermore members of his family still live in the area 
and is another reason that this gratuitous offence should not be tolerated
agreed!!

Agreed Although the poster more than likely didn't mean to be offensive and inwardly thought it is in good humour, it is a bit tasteless. Nice to see someone who holds great respect in antrim gaa can be defended when need be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Have to agree. First time I've logged in a few days and the first post I seen was from that posters name. I immediately though he was on the wind up.

Don't like the name at all. Get it changed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 27, 2013, 12:34:50 AM
Ulster Final Day

Shamrocks by 10.  Expecting a good battle.

Good luck to the fellas involved, they are a remarkable bunch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Nothing to sway me from my original tip of Seamroga in Senior and Cuchullain in Intermediate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on October 27, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
Get rid of this hurling/shinty farce. About two men and dog in Croke Park to watch it. Hurling men have all the advantages,broad stick can play in air and on ground.Shinty men have a narrow stick only good for ground play.Just two completely different games. Scrap it
As for that other fooball farce .....enough said.Australians not interested......send over every Tom,Dick, Harry.Why bother!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 03:12:19 PM
Gaels won by 2. Slaughtneil off to a flyer with a Gale behind them. Half time slaughtneil up 1-11 to 2-4 at half time. I fear for them second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Nothing to sway me from my original tip of Seamroga in Senior and Cuchullain in Intermediate.

You know your hurling  ::)  Anymore top top ideas  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 03:12:19 PM
Gaels won by 2. Slaughtneil off to a flyer with a Gale behind them. Half time slaughtneil up 1-11 to 2-4 at half time. I fear for them second half.

5 points, ya must have put the fear of god in them in the second half with that strong gael force wind ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 03:12:19 PM
Gaels won by 2. Slaughtneil off to a flyer with a Gale behind them. Half time slaughtneil up 1-11 to 2-4 at half time. I fear for them second half.

5 points, ya must have put the fear of god in them in the second half with that strong gael force wind ;)
we got over the line. You should know that's all it takes. Fair play to slaughtneil, they've some terrific hurlers but are just missing a wee bit of class up front.

On another note, well done to the Garls and the Kickhams. An Antrim clean sweep of ulster hurling titles. If only the footballers could emulate that.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 03:12:19 PM
Gaels won by 2. Slaughtneil off to a flyer with a Gale behind them. Half time slaughtneil up 1-11 to 2-4 at half time. I fear for them second half.

5 points, ya must have put the fear of god in them in the second half with that strong gael force wind ;)
we got over the line. You should know that's all it takes. Fair play to slaughtneil, they've some terrific hurlers but are just missing a wee bit of class up front.

On another note, well done to the Garls and the Kickhams. An Antrim clean sweep of hurling titles. If only the footballers could emulate that.  ;)

Hey if only winning Antrim was your ticket to the All Ireland series we'd have more than one All Ireland in Milltown Row ;)

Yes fair play to the other teams Gaels very strong and with PJ up front they have a lethal forward. Creggan have been the surprise packet this year for me, could give up the football for a while and plough it into hurling. Antrim teams in all these grades should be beating the rest, they have done poor enough in these grades in the past because they think it should be a walk in the park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 27, 2013, 05:02:46 PM
Fair play to the Gaels, they beat us in the 1st half, we mounted a good comeback but their class and cuteness won them the game and deservedly so. Gl in the AI.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 27, 2013, 06:05:14 PM
SIE hows the gout coming along?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 27, 2013, 06:05:14 PM
SIE hows the gout coming along?
Ive never had gout auld stock. By the looks of it, I don't want it either. Good to see our cushendall posters reappear.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 27, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
we never went away you know!!!  what was final score today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2013, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 27, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
we never went away you know!!!  what was final score today?
3-14 to 1-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 27, 2013, 07:41:42 PM
big score racked up again. have to say if there is a better drilled club team in Ireland, they must be some outfit. will watch from afar with envy the all Ireland assault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 27, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
Fair play to the three Antrim teams. Only one I would quibble with a little is Creggan. They should not have been playing junior championship but they sealed the deal in Ulster so fair play on that front.

Loughgiel really do have an inner belief these days and do not panic.

Why was DD not playing?

A friend said PJ was on twitter last night and the tweets would have suggested he quit. Clearly taken wrongly?!
Same punter tells me Mr Watson on twitter taking umbrage with something Chrissy McKaigue said to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 28, 2013, 07:22:47 AM
Why should Creggan not be playing Junior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: Glensman on October 27, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
Fair play to the three Antrim teams. Only one I would quibble with a little is Creggan. They should not have been playing junior championship but they sealed the deal in Ulster so fair play on that front.

Loughgiel really do have an inner belief these days and do not panic.

Why was DD not playing?

A friend said PJ was on twitter last night and the tweets would have suggested he quit. Clearly taken wrongly?!
Same punter tells me Mr Watson on twitter taking umbrage with something Chrissy McKaigue said to him.

two of them were having a right go at each other about comments to each other on the pitch until some journalist told them to catch a grip as the entire world was retweeting everything they were posting.

much ado about nothing.

didnt get to the games yday, pity as i wanted to see the both of them. went up to Derry the week before to watch the ballinderry match and i couldnt be arsed with that drive again.

when i seen the halftime score and knowing lgiel had thge wind in the second half i knew they would prob pull away at the end up. fair play to them, winning that 4 in a row wasnt easy the time we did it and lgiel deserve the plaudits for doing so as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2013, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 28, 2013, 07:22:47 AM
Why should Creggan not be playing Junior?

Yes i was wondering why that is being said also, they played junior this year and scrapped through in most games in Ulster so they seemed to be in the right grade.

Fair play to them and hard luck to Craobh Rua who seem to be making progress. Junior is funny because teams can be strong one year and weak the next if they loose 2-3 players and the secret to progression in an increase in numbers.

The jump from one grade to the next is massive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 28, 2013, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Nothing to sway me from my original tip of Seamroga in Senior and Cuchullain in Intermediate.

You know your hurling  ::)  Anymore top top ideas  ;D
Being right half the time is better than never  ;)

Cuchullains have a nasty streak in them so not sorry to see them beaten.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 28, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2013, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 28, 2013, 07:22:47 AM
Why should Creggan not be playing Junior?

Yes i was wondering why that is being said also, they played junior this year and scrapped through in most games in Ulster so they seemed to be in the right grade.

Fair play to them and hard luck to Craobh Rua who seem to be making progress. Junior is funny because teams can be strong one year and weak the next if they loose 2-3 players and the secret to progression in an increase in numbers.

The jump from one grade to the next is massive.

They won junior two years ago (open to correction there re exact year).
Last year they played in the intermediate championship and beat Sarsfields, who were many people's favourites for the whole thing over the last few years. Then I think they were beat quite narrowly by Cloghmills who went on to win the intermediate.
They they dropped back down again.
It's just personal opinion that a team who goes up and is of a level (which they have proved they are) they should stay there for at least two years. Is it not in their own interest to challenge themselves?

The jump to senior is the biggest in my mind. A number of junior teams on their day could beat a number of the intermediate teams.

All this said I'll still be supporting them when they get to the semi final stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 28, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2013, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 28, 2013, 07:22:47 AM
Why should Creggan not be playing Junior?

Yes i was wondering why that is being said also, they played junior this year and scrapped through in most games in Ulster so they seemed to be in the right grade.

Fair play to them and hard luck to Craobh Rua who seem to be making progress. Junior is funny because teams can be strong one year and weak the next if they loose 2-3 players and the secret to progression in an increase in numbers.

The jump from one grade to the next is massive.

They won junior two years ago (open to correction there re exact year).
Last year they played in the intermediate championship and beat Sarsfields, who were many people's favourites for the whole thing over the last few years. Then I think they were beat quite narrowly by Cloghmills who went on to win the intermediate.
They they dropped back down again.
It's just personal opinion that a team who goes up and is of a level (which they have proved they are) they should stay there for at least two years. Is it not in their own interest to challenge themselves?

The jump to senior is the biggest in my mind. A number of junior teams on their day could beat a number of the intermediate teams.

All this said I'll still be supporting them when they get to the semi final stage.

Cushendun I'd say were favourites for the final, St Tersea's and Cushendun romped through the league 11 points behind the second place team. That was a big shock when they beat Sarsfields in fairness I refereed them this year and they had decent players but still a Junior team in my mind but maybe that's the standard.

I'd say all the teams in div 4/3 should be Junior Div 2 Intermediate and Div 1 play Senior. Though Div 4 should be a Junior B championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 29, 2013, 12:07:37 AM
i might have missed it in previous pages but was wondering

how come DD never started the final, was he injured ? or is it just coming the time where his form has dipped and O Connell showing well in training ready to take over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 29, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2013, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 28, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2013, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on October 28, 2013, 07:22:47 AM
Why should Creggan not be playing Junior?

Yes i was wondering why that is being said also, they played junior this year and scrapped through in most games in Ulster so they seemed to be in the right grade.

Fair play to them and hard luck to Craobh Rua who seem to be making progress. Junior is funny because teams can be strong one year and weak the next if they loose 2-3 players and the secret to progression in an increase in numbers.

The jump from one grade to the next is massive.

They won junior two years ago (open to correction there re exact year).
Last year they played in the intermediate championship and beat Sarsfields, who were many people's favourites for the whole thing over the last few years. Then I think they were beat quite narrowly by Cloghmills who went on to win the intermediate.
They they dropped back down again.
It's just personal opinion that a team who goes up and is of a level (which they have proved they are) they should stay there for at least two years. Is it not in their own interest to challenge themselves?

The jump to senior is the biggest in my mind. A number of junior teams on their day could beat a number of the intermediate teams.

All this said I'll still be supporting them when they get to the semi final stage.

Cushendun I'd say were favourites for the final, St Tersea's and Cushendun romped through the league 11 points behind the second place team. That was a big shock when they beat Sarsfields in fairness I refereed them this year and they had decent players but still a Junior team in my mind but maybe that's the standard.

I'd say all the teams in div 4/3 should be Junior Div 2 Intermediate and Div 1 play Senior. Though Div 4 should be a Junior B championship
Agreed, having seen both I'd have had the house on C'dun but they decided to go with too many of the old guard on the day which was their undoing. Some smashin young fellas on that team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 29, 2013, 07:11:53 PM
Ulster getting a wee touch on BBC this evening for holding the 2013 SHC final next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 29, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
Jimmy seems to have mastered the art of saying nothing assisted by sidebottom not delving too deep.
Shane Elliott was probably being Antrim centric but theres a valid question to be answered by jimmy and the ulster council, is there a joined up strategy for the development of hurling and if there is share it with us please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Was actually surprised that this was a studio feature on the news. The coaching stats that Dublin have 50 paid coaches compared to Belfast 2. Did he say that it's down to the 2 counties to agree a date?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 29, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Was actually surprised that this was a studio feature on the news. The coaching stats that Dublin have 50 paid coaches compared to Belfast 2. Did he say that it's down to the 2 counties to agree a date?

yes he did. Donegal and monaghan must have got together to agree their date in the summer
. The dublin comparison is a red herring imo. How many clubs in belfast could part fund the salary of a full time coach?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 29, 2013, 09:25:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 29, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Was actually surprised that this was a studio feature on the news. The coaching stats that Dublin have 50 paid coaches compared to Belfast 2. Did he say that it's down to the 2 counties to agree a date?

yes he did. Donegal and monaghan must have got together to agree their date in the summer
. The dublin comparison is a red herring imo. How many clubs in belfast could part fund the salary of a full time coach?


The whole thing is a joke, not even lip service being paid to ulster hurling anymore by the ulster council. New article in hogan stand shows that they have set up a task force to help revive the McKenna cup after queens had pulled out last year. The importance paid to this pre season tournament over a provincial championship is utter contempt. What next task force to help rid ulster of hurling. I actually think I can smell the ash burning in Armagh right now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
I know money talks and theres very little about at club scene. Also noticed the dig at the Magean being played at a ground with no seats for ' students to watch the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 29, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Was actually surprised that this was a studio feature on the news. The coaching stats that Dublin have 50 paid coaches compared to Belfast 2. Did he say that it's down to the 2 counties to agree a date?

Better off with a game of rock, paper, scissors between the two captains. Save the UC all the effort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 29, 2013, 11:23:26 PM
All spot on points lads.

Depressing stuff - ulster council happy for hurling to whither as die - unless it involves promoting the game in USA!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2013, 08:57:32 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 29, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 29, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Was actually surprised that this was a studio feature on the news. The coaching stats that Dublin have 50 paid coaches compared to Belfast 2. Did he say that it's down to the 2 counties to agree a date?

Better off with a game of rock, paper, scissors between the two captains. Save the UC all the effort.

takes too much thinking that! one game of pitch and toss and thats it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 30, 2013, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 28, 2013, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 27, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Nothing to sway me from my original tip of Seamroga in Senior and Cuchullain in Intermediate.

You know your hurling  ::)  Anymore top top ideas  ;D
Being right half the time is better than never  ;)

Cuchullains have a nasty streak in them so not sorry to see them beaten.

Sorry can you enlighten us on that remark please? For years now I've come away from our games wishing we had some nasty maggots like our opponents, would just like to know how you come to such a conclusion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on October 30, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
QuoteCuchullains have a nasty streak in them so not sorry to see them beaten.

No truth in that remark from what i saw this year.

The worst you could say is that too many of them like to chat back to the ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2013, 07:05:41 PM
Is it the leinster champions for Loughgiel this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Yes.
St Thomas (Connacht) last year
Na piarsaigh (Munster) before that

Anyone remember who it was for the shamrocks first title?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Yes.
St Thomas (Connacht) last year
Na piarsaigh (Munster) before that

Anyone remember who it was for the shamrocks first title?

Moycarkey Borris of Tipp in semi and St Rynaghs in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
Thanks minder.

I meant who beat them in the semi when they won their first of four in a row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2013, 07:25:30 PM
Na Piarsaigh seemed to have a great comeback win against the Tipp champions, could be there or thereabouts come the end of the year if they get out of Munster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
O'loughlin Gaels?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2013, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 30, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
O'loughlin Gaels?

Correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Minder any confirmation on who is to be relegated yourselves or portaferry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Minder any confirmation on who is to be relegated yourselves or portaferry?

I am certain it will be us, they have a better scoring difference and better head to head with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 08:05:39 PM
Just noting that for whatever reason the count website has u above them.

Hopefully st galls in div1 will allow them to kick on with hurling in the club - I know I said the same for Rossa but it just exposed them!
All will depend on how the galls manage the dual factor - their footballers are obviously more influential than Rossa.
As for sarsfields I really fear they will take done heavy beatings and can't see them winning a game.
I know some posters have spoke of "targeting games" but I think when a team takes consistent defeats it can be hard to raise confidence for those games.

As for loughgiel of looks like Oulart ballyboden or Clara unless of the Offaly sides surprise again. A nice position to be in just sitting and waiting eh!

Loughgiel: D Quinn, P Gillan, N McGarry, B McAuley (0-2, 1f), M McFadden, Johnny Campbell, M Scullion, D Laverty, L McKillop, E McCloskey (0-2), James Campbell, A McCloskey, B McGarry (0-01), J Scullion (0-01), L Watson (0-03, 2f).

I looked this up from the o'laughlin Gaels reference - how much will have changed for this years semi?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 08:05:39 PM
Just noting that for whatever reason the count website has u above them.

Hopefully st galls in div1 will allow them to kick on with hurling in the club - I know I said the same for Rossa but it just exposed them!
All will depend on how the galls manage the dual factor - their footballers are obviously more influential than Rossa.
As for sarsfields I really fear they will take done heavy beatings and can't see them winning a game.
I know some posters have spoke of "targeting games" but I think when a team takes consistent defeats it can be hard to raise confidence for those games.

As for loughgiel of looks like Oulart ballyboden or Clara unless of the Offaly sides surprise again. A nice position to be in just sitting and waiting eh!

Loughgiel: D Quinn, P Gillan, N McGarry, B McAuley (0-2, 1f), M McFadden, Johnny Campbell, M Scullion, D Laverty, L McKillop, E McCloskey (0-2), James Campbell, A McCloskey, B McGarry (0-01), J Scullion (0-01), L Watson (0-03, 2f).

I looked this up from the o'laughlin Gaels reference - how much will have changed for this years semi?

I'd say if Loughgiel were playing the Gaels now they'd beat them handy, thought they were poor enough on the day and that was shown up come the final when they were hammered.


Ballyboden still in competition I believe, another fairly decent team, Kearney a massive player for them. Think Clara will enjoy that win maybe too much for their next game to count.

Munster teams haven't performed well lately and nothing has encouraged me to think any different, Portumna straight into semis after win over their best friends in Loughrea! Sarsfields are decent enough and have tried a few times to raise the Cork banner.

I'd say Loughgiel, Portumna by virtue of being in the semis now would fancy their chances of getting to the final, Portumna not the force they were but have beaten the All Ireland club winners after a replay so ain't no slouches. Those waiting to get in I'd say Ballyboden, OLB fancy themselves, and Na Piarsaigh who have experience along with Sarsfields would be the others who I fancy to get to semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 30, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Minder any confirmation on who is to be relegated yourselves or portaferry?

I am certain it will be us, they have a better scoring difference and better head to head with us.

the ports lads i was talking to on Sunday were saying its a play off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 09:42:13 PM
Venue for a play-off would be an interesting debate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 30, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Oisin are relegated on head-to-head as Portaferry came off better in their win in the first meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 31, 2013, 02:12:44 AM
Hardly much point asking the admin on county website!

Balderdash
Ask your club secretary

Or some other friendly helpful enlightenment to a simple query.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on October 31, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
Any news as to why o Connell and not dd sie. Is there a changing of the guard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 31, 2013, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 30, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 30, 2013, 07:53:28 PM
Minder any confirmation on who is to be relegated yourselves or portaferry?

I am certain it will be us, they have a better scoring difference and better head to head with us.

the ports lads i was talking to on Sunday were saying its a play off.

Probably on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 31, 2013, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on October 31, 2013, 09:07:37 AM
Any news as to why o Connell and not dd sie. Is there a changing of the guard

Chrissy got a well deserved opportunity to play. He has been deputy for 6-7 years now and it was his first championship start.  He's the County keeper and would be a regular for 90% of club teams in Ireland.

No changing of the guard yet though, DD will be in nets come February.  You never know when your sub keeper will be needed so no harm in blooding him in a big game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 31, 2013, 12:04:21 PM
Fantastic commitment to the cause. Must be frustrating at times. Odhran McFadden has spent the same time plugging away and is only starting to bed into the starting 15 . Both lads are a credit to their club for their dedication
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 31, 2013, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 31, 2013, 12:04:21 PM
Fantastic commitment to the cause. Must be frustrating at times. Odhran McFadden has spent the same time plugging away and is only starting to bed into the starting 15 . Both lads are a credit to their club for their dedication
Agreed,in an age where so many young lads throw the toys out of the pram when not selected it is refreshing to see such dedication to the cause and this is probably one of the main ingredients of their success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
Would anyone know has the portumna team changed much since their last AI appearance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 31, 2013, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
Would anyone know has the portumna team changed much since their last AI appearance?
This is the squad selected to play against Loughrea in the Galway Senior Club Hurling Championship final on October 28, 2013.

1   Joe Keane   
17   Michael Ryan   
3   Eoin Lynch   
4   Gareth Heagney   
5   Martin Dolphin   
6   Eugene McEntee   
7   Conor O'Hare   
8   Leo Smith
9   Damien Hayes   
10   Kevin Hayes   
11   Ollie Canning   
12   Andy Smith   
13   Ronan O'Meara   
14   Joe Canning   
15   Niall Hayes   
Substitutes
Peter Smith   
Oisín Royston   
Owen Treacy   

2010 - HURLING ALL IRELAND SENIOR CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP - PORTUMNA

I Canning,
A O'Donnell,
E McEntee,
O Canning,
G Heagney,
M Ryan,
P Smith,
L Smith,
E Lynch,
N Hayes,
K Hayes,
A Smith,
D Hayes,
J Canning,
M Dolphin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2013, 09:50:43 PM
Thanks SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 07, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
Some handy hurlers From the peninsula on display tonight in the Downpatrick/ De La Salle game Johnny C.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 08, 2013, 09:50:14 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 07, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
Some handy hurlers From the peninsula on display tonight in the Downpatrick/ De La Salle game Johnny C.
I know we've a few lads at the red high in Downpatrick, there's another young Sands from wee Noels loins who's a handy lad as well at the red high.

What age group is that at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
Young fella Brook Byers (cracking name) a Ballygalget man? Looked the part. Some lovely hurlers throughout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 08, 2013, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
Young fella Brook Byers (cracking name) a Ballygalget man? Looked the part. Some lovely hurlers throughout.

We'd have five starters on that team, Brook being one of them, and two of the subs are also from Ballygalget.

Brook's had the odd run out for our senior hurlers this year and I've noticed he plays a lot of juvenile hurling in defence, but he's a natural forward in my book, but juvenile teams are picked from 1 out and defensively minded IMO.

Not as good a name as 'Jack Daniels' all the same though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 08, 2013, 11:55:55 AM
A young 4th year from our club shipped a very bad tackle in the semi final vs La Salle playing for St Louis. Had to have emergency surgery which he's in recovery from. Things happen in sport. Hope it wasn't a case of a big lad trying to "put manners" on him. Get well soon Cobe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2013, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 08, 2013, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2013, 11:30:09 AM
Young fella Brook Byers (cracking name) a Ballygalget man? Looked the part. Some lovely hurlers throughout.

We'd have five starters on that team, Brook being one of them, and two of the subs are also from Ballygalget.

Brook's had the odd run out for our senior hurlers this year and I've noticed he plays a lot of juvenile hurling in defence, but he's a natural forward in my book, but juvenile teams are picked from 1 out and defensively minded IMO.Not as good a name as 'Jack Daniels' all the same though.

So true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on November 13, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
Aye was in rushmere yesterday and seen that advertised.... Very strange
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

I think this really does say it all about the lack of understanding of Hurling in the north, I understand that it would be the publishing house who would be organising this type of thing but does make the mind boggle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

I think this really does say it all about the lack of understanding of Hurling in the north, I understand that it would be the publishing house who would be organising this type of thing but does make the mind boggle.

Poor auld DJ, still getting shit business advice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

I think this really does say it all about the lack of understanding of Hurling in the north, I understand that it would be the publishing house who would be organising this type of thing but does make the mind boggle.

Poor auld DJ, still getting shit business advice.

:D
I think there's a bit of the McCooey in you JC!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

I think this really does say it all about the lack of understanding of Hurling in the north, I understand that it would be the publishing house who would be organising this type of thing but does make the mind boggle.

Poor auld DJ, still getting shit business advice.

:D
I think there's a bit of the McCooey in you JC!

God, I hope not, could a year living in the wild west do that to a man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on November 13, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Dj is doing a book signing in the team kit shop which is owned by former north antrim chairman & cushendall man niall Kearney who is doing a great job in promoting it! I'm sure there will be plenty from the glens up to meet him, it's not that far from here to there as christy Moore once said lol
Dj is also attending a gala dinner that night for a local gaa club, so I Wundt go slagging him off just yet & I'm sure if any other club asked him to call at their grounds over the weekend he wud have obliged.
He also appeared on the late Late show a few weeks back, so I wouldn't say he is being ill advised! 
It is book season at the min on the run up to Christmas even Owen mugsy mulligan is bringing out a book, some tales to be told by him surely lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 13, 2013, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

Can't wait to see his minders!! Ian Paisley & Ian Paisley Jr top of the queue for stocking fillers for all the family !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 09:58:26 PM
I will call over to Rushmere on Sat but would have thought he would had more trade in W. Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2013, 09:33:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 13, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 13, 2013, 08:11:19 AM
DJ is doing a book signing in the hurling heartlands of Craigavon and Ballymena this Saturday if anyone is interested.

I think this really does say it all about the lack of understanding of Hurling in the north, I understand that it would be the publishing house who would be organising this type of thing but does make the mind boggle.

Poor auld DJ, still getting shit business advice.

:D
I think there's a bit of the McCooey in you JC!

God, I hope not, could a year living in the wild west do that to a man?

I would say one year is plenty to pick up some McCooey!
We can even tell which lads from the Glens came to the big smoke for University!

Think DJ might be calling into one or two clubs in Belfast this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on November 15, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 13, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Dj is doing a book signing in the team kit shop which is owned by former north antrim chairman & cushendall man niall Kearney who is doing a great job in promoting it! I'm sure there will be plenty from the glens up to meet him, it's not that far from here to there as christy Moore once said lol
Dj is also attending a gala dinner that night for a local gaa club, so I Wundt go slagging him off just yet & I'm sure if any other club asked him to call at their grounds over the weekend he wud have obliged.
He also appeared on the late Late show a few weeks back, so I wouldn't say he is being ill advised! 
It is book season at the min on the run up to Christmas even Owen mugsy mulligan is bringing out a book, some tales to be told by him surely lol
No.1 hurler of all time.henry couldnt lace his boots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Just reading Shane mcnaughtons article about the all-stars. Think it's the first time I really disagree with him.

He complains about a lack of representation for players from Antrim Laois etc and specifically mentions Neil McManus. This is because he says the selections is mainly based on championship and ignores league. 

I think this is entirely justifiable!
Firstly - with only 15spots available it's natural to acknowledge the guys who are good enough to get their team to this stage stage and perform during it!
This is when men are counted!

To put more emphasis on the league ignores the fact that some counties are experimenting at this stage - also if the league did get considered it would be Kilkenny would benefit and not Neil McManus - after all they are league champions without an all-star! I don't hear them complaining!
On the point of Neil - his scoring figures are quoted. Do they now give out all-stars for hitting frees?

Let's cut to the chase - there were no all-star nominations from Antrim because we didn't have any players good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2013, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Just reading Shane mcnaughtons article about the all-stars. Think it's the first time I really disagree with him.

He complains about a lack of representation for players from Antrim Laois etc and specifically mentions Neil McManus. This is because he says the selections is mainly based on championship and ignores league. 

I think this is entirely justifiable!
Firstly - with only 15spots available it's natural to acknowledge the guys who are good enough to get their team to this stage stage and perform during it!
This is when men are counted!

To put more emphasis on the league ignores the fact that some counties are experimenting at this stage - also if the league did get considered it would be Kilkenny would benefit and not Neil McManus - after all they are league champions without an all-star! I don't hear them complaining!
On the point of Neil - his scoring figures are quoted. Do they now give out all-stars for hitting frees?

Let's cut to the chase - there were no all-star nominations from Antrim because we didn't have any players good enough.
correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 16, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2013, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Just reading Shane mcnaughtons article about the all-stars. Think it's the first time I really disagree with him.

He complains about a lack of representation for players from Antrim Laois etc and specifically mentions Neil McManus. This is because he says the selections is mainly based on championship and ignores league. 

I think this is entirely justifiable!
Firstly - with only 15spots available it's natural to acknowledge the guys who are good enough to get their team to this stage stage and perform during it!
This is when men are counted!

To put more emphasis on the league ignores the fact that some counties are experimenting at this stage - also if the league did get considered it would be Kilkenny would benefit and not Neil McManus - after all they are league champions without an all-star! I don't hear them complaining!
On the point of Neil - his scoring figures are quoted. Do they now give out all-stars for hitting frees?

Let's cut to the chase - there were no all-star nominations from Antrim because we didn't have any players good enough.
correct.
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Bullshit, no one on here knows how Neil mc manus  or lots of players that hurled for antrim down through the years would win. As individuals or with a team
Would  DJ be selling a book now or received all the awards and adulation if he was born up here

This sort of pestimistic  loathing of our own star players has contributed more to Antrims standards than whatever mc manus has contributed.
I haven't been on here for a few weeks. Think I'll leave it some more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Yeah, and if your aunt had a set she'd be your uncle. The fact is that the Antrim hurlers under achieved this past year and did not deserve an all star, nevermind a nomination. I think the all star panel got it just about correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2013, 02:47:44 PM
I see Fearon in the queue for DJ with me. Might hit him a shoulder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 16, 2013, 02:49:08 PM
Whatever about the flaws of the All Stars Neil McManus or an Antrim player not getting an All Star isn't one of them, nobody from Antrim deserved a nomination, and it's nothing to do with "loathing" of our players.

Strange column if that's what he was writing about in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 16, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2013, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Just reading Shane mcnaughtons article about the all-stars. Think it's the first time I really disagree with him.

He complains about a lack of representation for players from Antrim Laois etc and specifically mentions Neil McManus. This is because he says the selections is mainly based on championship and ignores league. 

I think this is entirely justifiable!
Firstly - with only 15spots available it's natural to acknowledge the guys who are good enough to get their team to this stage stage and perform during it!
This is when men are counted!

To put more emphasis on the league ignores the fact that some counties are experimenting at this stage - also if the league did get considered it would be Kilkenny would benefit and not Neil McManus - after all they are league champions without an all-star! I don't hear them complaining!
On the point of Neil - his scoring figures are quoted. Do they now give out all-stars for hitting frees?

Let's cut to the chase - there were no all-star nominations from Antrim because we didn't have any players good enough.
correct.
[/quote

Bullshit, no one on here knows how Neil mc manus  or lots of players that hurled for antrim down through the years would win. As individuals or with a team
Would  DJ be selling a book now or received all the awards and adulation if he was born up here

This sort of pestimistic  loathing of our own star players has contributed more to Antrims standards than whatever mc manus has contributed.
I haven't been on here for a few weeks. Think I'll leave it some more

So are you saying that Neil McManus deserved an all-star?

Or that he can't get one because of a post on this board?

I support Antrim as much as anyone but that doesn't extend to blindly suggesting our players deserve all-stars with no evidence!

By the way - DJ played on relatively poor Kilkenny teams that couldn't get out of Leinster past Offaly & Wexford.
Please don't mention Neil McManus & DJ Carey in the same breath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
I can see merit in some players from Antrim had they been playing for one of the big counties making the list for nomination for an All Star, as proved by and ex Antrim footballer who's playing for Cork.

But to think anyone from Antrim has deserved an All Star nomination, nevermind an actually award since the early 90's is having a laugh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 16, 2013, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
I can see merit in some players from Antrim had they been playing for one of the big counties making the list for nomination for an All Star, as proved by and ex Antrim footballer who's playing for Cork.

But to think anyone from Antrim has deserved an All Star nomination, nevermind an actually award since the early 90's is having a laugh

He maybe ( Shane) shouldn't have said he deserved an star but I can see where he is coming from

What he should have said was if he was toggling out for clare and got the same training and preparation then you never know

By the way no one compared him to DJ Carey
A lot if players with all stars dint compare to him

I was just bringing up a scenario as to what would he have won is he was born in antrim

And to say DJ carried a poor Kilkenny team is laughable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2013, 07:31:40 PM
I didn't say DJ carried a poor Kilkenny team.
I said he played on a relatively poor one. Which is a fact.
Kilkenny didn't win any if the Leinster titles in 94 95 96 or 97.
Yet DJ won an all-star in 3 of these years.

There's no point in posting about what shane should have said - myself and other posters were commenting on what he did say. If u read the original post it's simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 16, 2013, 07:48:04 PM
This is just Shane trying to give his team mate a boost. Everyone knows that unless you play for one of the " big counties" you have no chance of getting an All-Star. Being a shinty international is not really a qualification.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2013, 06:37:32 PM
A loughgiel vs portumna final is mouth watering!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .

massive result for Rangers. They're All Ireland Intermediate champions but that's a serious step upbeating Ballyboden and shouldn't fear OTB. Loughgiel to beat the winners. OTB are an aging side. This is their fourth final in a row!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .

massive result for Rangers. They're All Ireland Intermediate champions but that's a serious step upbeating Ballyboden and shouldn't fear OTB. Loughgiel to beat the winners. OTB are an aging side. This is their fourth final in a row!!

Sure Loughgiel have just won 4 in a row in Ulster. And is the Oulart team the exactly the same for the four finals ? They have come through a far tougher route than Loughgiel so I don't see how anyone can question their credentials (provided they win).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2013, 08:31:32 PM
Looks like Parnell park again in February now with the Dublin champs out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .

massive result for Rangers. They're All Ireland Intermediate champions but that's a serious step upbeating Ballyboden and shouldn't fear OTB. Loughgiel to beat the winners. OTB are an aging side. This is their fourth final in a row!!

Sure Loughgiel have just won 4 in a row in Ulster. And is the Oulart team the exactly the same for the four finals ? They have come through a far tougher route than Loughgiel so I don't see how anyone can question their credentials (provided they win).

What's your point? OTB beat the Offaly champions and Loughgiel have already done that. Beating teams to get to the semi finals is irrelevant it's how you perform on the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 08:48:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .

massive result for Rangers. They're All Ireland Intermediate champions but that's a serious step upbeating Ballyboden and shouldn't fear OTB. Loughgiel to beat the winners. OTB are an aging side. This is their fourth final in a row!!

Sure Loughgiel have just won 4 in a row in Ulster. And is the Oulart team the exactly the same for the four finals ? They have come through a far tougher route than Loughgiel so I don't see how anyone can question their credentials (provided they win).

What's your point? OTB beat the Offaly champions and Loughgiel have already done that. Beating teams to get to the semi finals is irrelevant it's how you perform on the day

What's my point ?! You said OTB are an "aging side", any more so than Shamrocks ? Are you basing this on the age profile of the team or the fact they have got to the last 4 finals? Keith Rossiter, probably their most experienced player was MOTM today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 08:48:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 17, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
So its Mount Leinster Rangers or Oulart the Ballagh in the All Ireland semi. Great result by the Rangers .

massive result for Rangers. They're All Ireland Intermediate champions but that's a serious step upbeating Ballyboden and shouldn't fear OTB. Loughgiel to beat the winners. OTB are an aging side. This is their fourth final in a row!!

Sure Loughgiel have just won 4 in a row in Ulster. And is the Oulart team the exactly the same for the four finals ? They have come through a far tougher route than Loughgiel so I don't see how anyone can question their credentials (provided they win).

What's your point? OTB beat the Offaly champions and Loughgiel have already done that. Beating teams to get to the semi finals is irrelevant it's how you perform on the day

What's my point ?! You said OTB are an "aging side", any more so than Shamrocks ? Are you basing this on the age profile of the team or the fact they have got to the last 4 finals? Keith Rossiter, probably their most experienced player was MOTM today.

I'm saying the Jacob lads and Rossiter and co have put in a lot of work over the years had haven't been able to get over the line. This may be that chance for them to make the breakthrough. Loughgiel will be going into that game (whoever they play) with a lot of confidence, they may be a similar age bracket but that's not the reason it's just a fact, I'm basing my opinion on Loughgiel having more experience come the semi final

Loughgiel destroyed all the teams in Antrim this year with ease. If they can keep that form through Xmas they will be hard to beat.

The Rangers team will defo put it up to OTB based on that match today, listened to parts of the game today and the commentator was saying that this is no fluke result based on their play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2013, 09:04:05 PM
Age and fitness are not the sane thing lads.
Only the latter matters.
Loughgiel will be happy today - and altho nothing decided yet a final
Vs portumna excites me more than most inter-county games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on November 18, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
Pretty sure Clara not Mount Leinster are reigning All Ireland Intermediate Champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2013, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on November 18, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
Pretty sure Clara not Mount Leinster are reigning All Ireland Intermediate Champions.

Possibly, but last couple of years they won it, beaty the Ulster winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on November 18, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Was just wondering who the new faces are on the Senior hurling panel this year?

I have heard rumours that the McCloskey clan from Loughgiel have not been asked back.  Anybody know if there is any substance to this as well?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2013, 08:02:03 AM
Nigel Elliott and Shane Dooey from our club have joined the panel for the new season.
The Antrim lads are training away in the gym. Good to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 19, 2013, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on November 18, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Was just wondering who the new faces are on the Senior hurling panel this year?

I have heard rumours that the McCloskey clan from Loughgiel have not been asked back.  Anybody know if there is any substance to this as well?

I think its more a case that they have opted out themselves.  We aren't coming down with that much talent that we can tell the likes of Eddie to stay at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2013, 09:03:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 19, 2013, 08:02:03 AM
Nigel Elliott and Shane Dooey from our club have joined the panel for the new season.
The Antrim lads are training away in the gym. Good to see it.

On the pitches at Jordanstown last night from what I could see, 24 players there training away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 19, 2013, 10:14:29 AM
Tony McCloskey , mark and odhran McFadden and chrissy o'connell are currently in the squad. There'll be more called up after the all Ireland run. This has been agreed with the county management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2013, 01:08:07 PM
they played ahoghill on sat, won easy enough without a few of our main players. chrissy was in nets. quality keeper and deserves a starting run in my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2013, 09:53:32 AM
Our minors are looking some challenge games, anyone involved with their clubs at that level or know the manager, I'd be happy to arrange these games. Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
NHL games v wexford and cork to be played at ballycastle. great ground to watch a match at and loads of parking etc. a good call imo.

that said 2 home league games again for us, same for the last 3 seasons!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 22, 2013, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 22, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
NHL games v wexford and cork to be played at ballycastle. great ground to watch a match at and loads of parking etc. a good call imo.

that said 2 home league games again for us, same for the last 3 seasons!

Think Ballycastle was the correct call for sure.
As for the fixtures - its does seems a little to much to believe this is "luck of the draw".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 25, 2013, 08:51:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 22, 2013, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 22, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
NHL games v wexford and cork to be played at ballycastle. great ground to watch a match at and loads of parking etc. a good call imo.

that said 2 home league games again for us, same for the last 3 seasons!

Think Ballycastle was the correct call for sure.
As for the fixtures - its does seems a little to much to believe this is "luck of the draw".

Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 22, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
NHL games v wexford and cork to be played at ballycastle. great ground to watch a match at and loads of parking etc. a good call imo.

that said 2 home league games again for us, same for the last 3 seasons!

Going to be good craic up in Ballycastle up there on a winters day, most summer evenings you go up the breeze is blowing across the field making it a farce.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Buswhacker on November 25, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
It can be very windy and exposed at times. I remember a semi-final between the Dall and Shamrocks that was practically a farce with the high winds. It was the year that Rossa won the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 25, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
It can be very windy and exposed at times. I remember a semi-final between the Dall and Shamrocks that was practically a farce with the high winds. It was the year that Rossa won the championship.

And the final at Casement was shit weather to if I remember right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 25, 2013, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: Buswhacker on November 25, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
It can be very windy and exposed at times. I remember a semi-final between the Dall and Shamrocks that was practically a farce with the high winds. It was the year that Rossa won the championship.

And the final at Casement was shit weather to if I remember right

Yeah but there is shit weather and consistently game altering weather. To me that is a significant difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
Its only 2 days .... chances are they'll be lovely sunny ones. Remember the cats visiting a couple of years ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 25, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
Its only 2 days .... chances are they'll be lovely sunny ones. Remember the cats visiting a couple of years ago

And Babs coming to Cushedall??? Another shit day ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Big shock in Leinster today. Mlr were the bigger, stronger team and wanted it more. What odds Parnell in February?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
Fair play to MLR.
Shamrocks to account for them in Parnell and set up a great final - hopefully portumna come thru the other side.

Radio commentary debated if MLR win should mean Carlow get div1 status "to promote hurling".
What utter nonsense!
Didn't hear the same comment when loughgiel won to favour Antrim!
Or when at galls won should our big ballers go to division1!

The club and county scenes are different animals - stupid comments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 01, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
Some crazy wides today and a phenomenal amount of balls dropped short into keepers hands. Fair play to them, great scenes at the end. As said can't see them go further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on December 01, 2013, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Big shock in Leinster today. Mlr were the bigger, stronger team and wanted it more. What odds Parnell in February?

Certainly unexpected outcome. MLR did not score from play in the first half. ATB on the other hand won everything in the first half and failed to take advantage on the scoreboard. MLR were in fact made to look better than they are, by the rank incompetence of ATB. It was when MLR realised there was no committed opposition in the second half, that their confidence rose, while ATB confidence collapsed. If MLR are going to beat Loughgiel they will have to show a better return from their forwards throughout the entire game. I expect Loughgiel to be a lot grittier than ATB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
08 to 0-11 fro MLR.  :o ;  Those Loughgiel lads would be capable of scoring that in one half of a match.  Watson capable of scoring that tally on his own.  The Shamrocks have nothing to fear with the exception of complacency  ;)  Should be an interesting duel come February '14.

No doubt, not too many McCooeys would relish another Loughgiel major success.  So parochial and envious to be honest >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: acton1 on December 01, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Would have Loughgiel slight favourites for semi but genuinely think winner of LG and MLR will go on to win AI final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 01, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
08 to 0-11 fro MLR.  :o ;  Those Loughgiel lads would be capable of scoring that in one half of a match.  Watson capable of scoring that tally on his own.  The Shamrocks have nothing to fear with the exception of complacency  ;)  Should be an interesting duel come February '14.

No doubt, not too many McCooeys would relish another Loughgiel major success.  So parochial and envious to be honest >:(
Apparently its on 8/2/14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
08 to 0-11 fro MLR.  :o ;  Those Loughgiel lads would be capable of scoring that in one half of a match.  Watson capable of scoring that tally on his own.  The Shamrocks have nothing to fear with the exception of complacency  ;)  Should be an interesting duel come February '14.

No doubt, not too many McCooeys would relish another Loughgiel major success.  So parochial and envious to be honest >:(

I can tell you that nearly all mc cooeys have no problem supporting the shamrocks!
Maybe because there's nobody in the city who can consider them rivals but they'll be supported nonetheless.
The jealousy would maybe be from the clubs closer to home!
Strange comment.

Are we to have a few months shamrock slapping until February like the last years then?
Hopefully not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 01, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: acton1 on December 01, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Would have Loughgiel slight favourites for semi but genuinely think winner of LG and MLR will go on to win AI final.
MLR are far from a slick outfit but make up for it in graft, LG definite favourites for me in February as the better hurling team and carrying a lot more resolve than OTB today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 10:24:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 01, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 01, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
08 to 0-11 fro MLR.  :o ;  Those Loughgiel lads would be capable of scoring that in one half of a match.  Watson capable of scoring that tally on his own.  The Shamrocks have nothing to fear with the exception of complacency  ;)  Should be an interesting duel come February '14.

No doubt, not too many McCooeys would relish another Loughgiel major success.  So parochial and envious to be honest >:(

I can tell you that nearly all mc cooeys have no problem supporting the shamrocks!
Maybe because there's nobody in the city who can consider them rivals but they'll be supported nonetheless.
The jealousy would maybe be from the clubs closer to home!
Strange comment.

Are we to have a few months shamrock slapping until February like the last years then?
Hopefully not.
Certainly entitled to your opinion compadre, but envy is a terrible thing, particularly in the big smoke.  I would also concur about the Shamrock slapping, sure they will be queuing up to slate and begrudge them.  Comes with the territory ;)  I would certainly like to think all clubs in the county would relish another Loughgiel success, but I am a realist however  ::)  Time will tell of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I genuinely have no idea where you are getting this from?

None of the clubs in the city are at a level to be considered rivals of Loughgiel - so they have little to be jealous of. This makes it very easy for them to support the Shamrocks - and thats the only thing I've had any experience of in the past few years.

On the other hand, its understandable the bigger North Antrim clubs will have some resentment and we've seen that on this board. If there's any Shamrock-slapping it'll come from there although I think most of the posters here (and in clubs) acknowledge that Loughgiel are our best side by some distance.

I've really no idea what point you are trying to make - and why you think city-folk would be bitter towards Loughiel.
Its just not true.
Unless you are trying to stir something up and we're back to a few moths of the "WUM" word again - Zzzzzzz.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on December 02, 2013, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I genuinely have no idea where you are getting this from?

None of the clubs in the city are at a level to be considered rivals of Loughgiel - so they have little to be jealous of. This makes it very easy for them to support the Shamrocks - and thats the only thing I've had any experience of in the past few years.

On the other hand, its understandable the bigger North Antrim clubs will have some resentment and we've seen that on this board. If there's any Shamrock-slapping it'll come from there although I think most of the posters here (and in clubs) acknowledge that Loughgiel are our best side by some distance.

I've really no idea what point you are trying to make - and why you think city-folk would be bitter towards Loughiel.
Its just not true.
Unless you are trying to stir something up and we're back to a few moths of the "WUM" word again - Zzzzzzz.

He is a dickhead so pay no attention to what he writes.Most wish the Shamrocks well and hope they do our county proud once again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I genuinely have no idea where you are getting this from?

None of the clubs in the city are at a level to be considered rivals of Loughgiel - so they have little to be jealous of. This makes it very easy for them to support the Shamrocks - and thats the only thing I've had any experience of in the past few years.

On the other hand, its understandable the bigger North Antrim clubs will have some resentment and we've seen that on this board. If there's any Shamrock-slapping it'll come from there although I think most of the posters here (and in clubs) acknowledge that Loughgiel are our best side by some distance.

I've really no idea what point you are trying to make - and why you think city-folk would be bitter towards Loughiel.
Its just not true.
Unless you are trying to stir something up and we're back to a few moths of the "WUM" word again - Zzzzzzz.
Ah come on man, do you really subscribe to the fact that the Loughgiel-slapping only resonates from North Antrim club, lets get real here, this is Antrim we are talking about.  Despite south Antrim hurling currently residing in the gutter, do you believe for one second, there will droves of McCooeys travelling to Parnell and possibly Croke to cheer on the Shamrocks?  Be perfectly honest here, will you be there, will many of your fellow club members be there, (assuming you are not a Shams man of course)??  Cant see it to be honest  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2013, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I genuinely have no idea where you are getting this from?

None of the clubs in the city are at a level to be considered rivals of Loughgiel - so they have little to be jealous of. This makes it very easy for them to support the Shamrocks - and thats the only thing I've had any experience of in the past few years.

On the other hand, its understandable the bigger North Antrim clubs will have some resentment and we've seen that on this board. If there's any Shamrock-slapping it'll come from there although I think most of the posters here (and in clubs) acknowledge that Loughgiel are our best side by some distance.

I've really no idea what point you are trying to make - and why you think city-folk would be bitter towards Loughiel.
Its just not true.
Unless you are trying to stir something up and we're back to a few moths of the "WUM" word again - Zzzzzzz.
Ah come on man, do you really subscribe to the fact that the Loughgiel-slapping only resonates from North Antrim club, lets get real here, this is Antrim we are talking about.  Despite south Antrim hurling currently residing in the gutter, do you believe for one second, there will droves of McCooeys travelling to Parnell and possibly Croke to cheer on the Shamrocks?  Be perfectly honest here, will you be there, will many of your fellow club members be there, (assuming you are not a Shams man of course)??  Cant see it to be honest  :(

There wouldn't be droves of McCooeys if they were in the semis...

Dunno what you're talking about either. Are you from Loughgiel and feeling unloved? Most of the county will be behind Loughgiel. Not all will be but that would be the same in any county.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Spot on TommyGun!

No there will not be droves of McCooeys travelling to support - some will, and there will be plenty more supporting from an armchair.

The point is - there will be virtually none who will be shamrock-slapping or hoping they are beaten.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Spot on!

No there will not be droves of McCooeys travelling to support - some will, and there will be plenty more supporting from an armchair.

The point is - there will be virtually none who will be shamrock-slapping or hoping they are beaten.

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 02, 2013, 02:09:22 PM
To save anyone else the bother of scrolling across to see if MRs still sleeping....he is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 04:16:35 PM
Lol   usual on here.  The odd ejit appearing with a big wooden spoon.    how does everyone see other semi going?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 04:16:35 PM
Lol   usual on here.  The odd ejit appearing with a big wooden spoon.    how does everyone see other semi going?

Big incentive for Na Piarsaigh to play yourselves again, Portumna not the team they once were having to work real hard to get over the line in their semis and final.

I'm think Na Piarsaigh will win by at least 4/5 points. If yous get past MLR it should be a cracking final, Munster club hurling getting better it seems.

Don't underestimate MLR they remind me of us or how we could have been, (he smirks) but what I'm trying to say is that they have a big fit strong team with a couple of decent hurlers and a will to win which is evident to date, they've been through to Croke before albeit at Intermediate level but know how to work the winter break and prepare (better) for the semi final.

Should be an interesting game, simple thing here is to match their fitness and intensity and your skill, accuracy will win yous through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
Couldn't agree more with every single bit of that post.   think na p is a far far better team than few years back tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on December 02, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Spot on TommyGun!

No there will not be droves of McCooeys travelling to support - some will, and there will be plenty more supporting from an armchair.

The point is - there will be virtually none who will be shamrock-slapping or hoping they are beaten.

In the name of god when is this mindless slobbering about mc cooeys going to cease. They have forgotten they used to call the glens ones the sheoughies (shuckies).  Coming from a glens family and reared in Loughgiel where we had nothing but respect and affection for the hurling families of Belfast. Any one who remembers Seamus Stout Mc Donnell hurling or Seanie Burrns or Sean Collins would have to agree they were probably the best hurlers who ever came out of Antrim.  Further we are entitled to take pride in their families and communities, who stood against the assaults of a NATO army and their murderous allies for 30 plus years and somehow managed to keep some semblance of hurling going. For my part I like to see the mural in Cushendall reminding me of the fact that the people of Cushendall will stand by their traditions. Dunloy are entitled to massive respect for practically saving hurling at a time when Loughgiel and Ballycastle disappeared from the scene. It is true that Loughgiel  have showed the way and when this phase passes this time, it is a virtual certainty that Dunloy, Rossa, Cushendall or Ballycastle et al., will be hot handfuls for any southern opposition in the future. It is clear that the under 21's are heralding a new spirit in Antrim and Cork might find Ballycastle a bit of a Cauldron when they arrive for their National league match. It would be a start if we stopped pouring enfilade fire up our own trenches.

Remember Henry Joy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
1). Where was dunloy before 1990? Saved hurling my hole!!!
2). Cork won't find ballycastle any different to casement, or any other pitch unless there is a massive massive change in our county stars mind sets
3). No doubt the troubles hammered hurling.  When we were at our best imo,   ran with the big boys.  And never looked out of place
4). WELCOME BACK KEVIN!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: Clan Colla on December 02, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Spot on TommyGun!

No there will not be droves of McCooeys travelling to support - some will, and there will be plenty more supporting from an armchair.

The point is - there will be virtually none who will be shamrock-slapping or hoping they are beaten.

In the name of god when is this mindless slobbering about mc cooeys going to cease. They have forgotten they used to call the glens ones the sheoughies (shuckies).  Coming from a glens family and reared in Loughgiel where we had nothing but respect and affection for the hurling families of Belfast. Any one who remembers Seamus Stout Mc Donnell hurling or Seanie Burrns or Sean Collins would have to agree they were probably the best hurlers who ever came out of Antrim.  Further we are entitled to take pride in their families and communities, who stood against the assaults of a NATO army and their murderous allies for 30 plus years and somehow managed to keep some semblance of hurling going. For my part I like to see the mural in Cushendall reminding me of the fact that the people of Cushendall will stand by their traditions. Dunloy are entitled to massive respect for practically saving hurling at a time when Loughgiel and Ballycastle disappeared from the scene. It is true that Loughgiel  have showed the way and when this phase passes this time, it is a virtual certainty that Dunloy, Rossa, Cushendall or Ballycastle et al., will be hot handfuls for any southern opposition in the future. It is clear that the under 21's are heralding a new spirit in Antrim and Cork might find Ballycastle a bit of a Cauldron when they arrive for their National league match. It would be a start if we stopped pouring enfilade fire up our own trenches.

Remember Henry Joy
Ach you're bo****ks, we are still a fragmented and divided county (football/hurling - North/South Antrim) going nowhere, with maybe the exception of the Shamrocks, who have been to the well more than once!  Giving away your vintage also, considering the ancient history lesson.  Time to move on man, the McCooey teams (what's left of them) are nowhere near the skill, fitness nor physicality levels of north Antrim teams.  As for your prediction of 'virtual certainty' regarding Rossa, the Town, the Dall or Dunloy, I feel you are well off the mark in this regard.  No mention of the Johnnies either, is this a slight hint towards your McCooey bias, hhmmmm!  ::)  The county needs a major clear out at executive level, a 'get with the times' reality check, and an experienced manager and coaching backroom team along with a nucleus of players prepared to die in pursuit of wearing an Antrim jersey.  Regretably Clan Colla, that's where we are!  Despite what other may have you believe with their spin, that is the reality.  The Status Quo is set to continue, the results are not set to improve, the lifting of silverware is still well beyond our reach, our coaching standards with juveniles/minors are not set to improve. Do ya falla? 

The point I am making here, is that we all need to recognise and admit to the division within our county, with no vision for progress with no desire to improve our lot, we are going nowhere.  All the waffle and meaningless rhetoric spewed out here by various contributors, is nothing but idol, vitriolic and spurious crap.  The sad thing though, is they think they are making a valid and meaningful contribution to our ills and progress in Antrim, heaven help us, but how wrong they are.  Such contributors are also failed coaches, mentors, managers and scarred by their own negative experiences of failure, thus leading to the contrived bitterness and lack of honesty and transparency  :(  That makes me angry, because they honestly believe they are making a difference.

FACT:  They are not and are no more likely to roll up their sleeves and do something meaningful or positive  in moving our county forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
1). Where was dunloy before 1990? Saved hurling my hole!!!
2). Cork won't find ballycastle any different to casement, or any other pitch unless there is a massive massive change in our county stars mind sets
3). No doubt the troubles hammered hurling.  When we were at our best imo,   ran with the big boys.  And never looked out of place
4). WELCOME BACK KEVIN!!!!! ;D
I applaud your honesty SG, well said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
I just trust ref for free's original comment is WUM then - apologies if I gave the comment too much credence!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 02, 2013, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
I genuinely have no idea where you are getting this from?

None of the clubs in the city are at a level to be considered rivals of Loughgiel - so they have little to be jealous of. This makes it very easy for them to support the Shamrocks - and thats the only thing I've had any experience of in the past few years.

On the other hand, its understandable the bigger North Antrim clubs will have some resentment and we've seen that on this board. If there's any Shamrock-slapping it'll come from there although I think most of the posters here (and in clubs) acknowledge that Loughgiel are our best side by some distance.

I've really no idea what point you are trying to make - and why you think city-folk would be bitter towards Loughiel.
Its just not true.
Unless you are trying to stir something up and we're back to a few moths of the "WUM" word again - Zzzzzzz.
Ah come on man, do you really subscribe to the fact that the Loughgiel-slapping only resonates from North Antrim club, lets get real here, this is Antrim we are talking about.  Despite south Antrim hurling currently residing in the gutter, do you believe for one second, there will droves of McCooeys travelling to Parnell and possibly Croke to cheer on the Shamrocks?  Be perfectly honest here, will you be there, will many of your fellow club members be there, (assuming you are not a Shams man of course)??  Cant see it to be honest  :(
I wasn,t at lougheils a.i final but watched it on tv.lougheils performance and in particular winkers 10 minutes of brilliance turned out to be  the highlight of my gaa year.If lougheil get there i will defo be in croke next march.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
I didn't realise Brian Cody is a new :P contributor on this site Bog Ash speaks  again Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Life is sorted, kick out the executive and bring in what? oh right another executive makes sense cause there are hundreds of success stories looking too take over....

The mask always slips, this was actually quicker than before but sure........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on December 02, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
Every genuine hurling fan (and even a few football ones too) should have nothing but respect for the way the Shamrocks go about their business of collecting titles. Amazing to think that some of the current panel have been in ten county finals in a row. Thatsome stat only matched by St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
He came on as a sub I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
Those lads will have serious careers to look back on.
Good times for the shamrocks.

Maybe a stupid question but:
Was this current senior team based on juvenile success?
I mean - is it a result of gifted hurlers being born at a similar time - or a bunch of guys who just worked really hard?

I say stupid question as I suspect it's both!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
Those lads will have serious careers to look back on.
Good times for the shamrocks.

Maybe a stupid question but:
Was this current senior team based on juvenile success?
I mean - is it a result of gifted hurlers being born at a similar time - or a bunch of guys who just worked really hard?

I say stupid question as I suspect it's both!

We beat them a lot at juvenile level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
Ding aswel SIE.  I don't think they were overly successful at under age.  It wasn't dominated for years on end anyway,  the younger of that group. Like Watson barney JC.  Won a handful of U21s in a row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
Also had are fair share of defeats.  As if I have to remind anyone.  So id say its more down to shear hard work and will to be successful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
Ding aswel SIE.  I don't think they were overly successful at under age.  It wasn't dominated for years on end anyway,  the younger of that group. Like Watson barney JC.  Won a handful of U21s in a row
I don't think ding played in 2003. He'd have been on the panel right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
Ding aswel SIE.  I don't think they were overly successful at under age.  It wasn't dominated for years on end anyway,  the younger of that group. Like Watson barney JC. Won a handful of U21s in a row

Won one of them in the committee room ;)

Yeah it's important to have that good juvenile base, Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel have managed to bring those lads on into senior championship and perform, Ballycastle and the Johnnies have failed of late to turn that underage success into senior championships
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 10:28:34 PM
Interesting!

So if we take it this current team was not some kind of golden baby boom - and rather hard work - is it to simplistic to ask - what happened!

Was it a group of players knocking heads together?
Was it an inspirational manager / clubman?
Was it the pain of the 6 defeats?
Has finance played a role? I mean in preparation not payments!

Or is it too big or complex to put down to a few points?

Just interested while there's no fixtures!

By the way MR2 - if the galls beat the shamrocks at underage then aren't you guys also guilty of not bringing success thru?
Only mixing - I know we're the milltown resources went!
Unfortunately for the real game ur success was on bogball!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
I think he did SIE.  I know he played in the defeats against ballycastle the two years previous.  Maybe suspended.  Lol  :o    he was out round half back at time.  Him SP and road stone. I think young whitey Connelly started final also.  Maybe that was the following year.  That long ago.   so much has changed since those days.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:42:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 10:28:34 PM
Interesting!

So if we take it this current team was not some kind of golden baby boom - and rather hard work - is it to simplistic to ask - what happened!

Was it a group of players knocking heads together?
Was it an inspirational manager / clubman?
Was it the pain of the 6 defeats?
Has finance played a role? I mean in preparation not payments!

Or is it too big or complex to put down to a few points?

Just interested while there's no fixtures!

By the way MR2 - if the galls beat the shamrocks at underage then aren't you guys also guilty of not bringing success thru?
Only mixing - I know we're the milltown resources went!
Unfortunately for the real game ur success was on bogball!

Guilty, but we were winning football titles right through underage also, very hard to do both. Me personally I'd have loved us to have given it a go but I'm realistic and while we've had big wins over the years in hurling and pushed a few teams we never had the tradition that's required to win a Senior hurling Championship, Dunloy did it back in the 90's and have maintained that, Cushendall early 80's and have managed to do likewise.

We would need a serious drop in fortunes in the football (which may happen for a while) and a great team coming through, here's the problem though that serious wee team we have at under 12 under 10 are also good wee footballers!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 10:36:32 PM
Id give the Johnnies a bit more time to be fair. Most of the lads you'd expect big things from are only out of minor.

Which good minor team? they've had a few to be fair. I thought they played well enough this year, good stick work and handling. I'm sure they will improve again from this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 10:36:32 PM
Id give the Johnnies a bit more time to be fair. Most of the lads you'd expect big things from are only out of minor.

That sounds familiar - and I expect the same thing will happen all over again.
Don't hold your breath HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 10:51:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
I think he did SIE.  I know he played in the defeats against ballycastle the two years previous.  Maybe suspended.  Lol  :o    he was out round half back at time.  Him SP and road stone. I think young whitey Connelly started final also.  Maybe that was the following year.  That long ago.   so much has changed since those days.   ;)
from memory:

DD, Carl Casey, roadstone, Joey Quinn, Barney, Sean Paul, Johnny, Scully, Benny Dillon, arlic, chum, Aidan McCloskey , chopper, Winker, and possibly another Connolly. Ten years ago ffs. I was only a youngster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
Since the early 80s, they had won 1 minor championship until the Janty Babes came along. The eldest of those lads is only about 21. That is far too young to be expecting senior championships from.

They lost a couple they shouldn't have if memory serves me right. Wilson's team not win it in the late 80's ? They were some team ffs won the football that day in Rasharkin before we beat are friends from the SW in a thriller 5 to 4 lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
CC, god rest him. Would have started.    something has it in my head SP was 7 that day.  Scored an unreal point.  Roadstone 6,  broke his collar bone that day.  Only for it imo wouldn't have been a 6in a row.   again.  Could be wrong.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 11:07:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
Since the early 80s, they had won 1 minor championship until the Janty Babes came along. The eldest of those lads is only about 21. That is far too young to be expecting senior championships from.

They lost a couple they shouldn't have if memory serves me right. Wilson's team not win it in the late 80's ? They were some team ffs won the football that day in Rasharkin before we beat are friends from the SW in a thriller 5 to 4 lol
When they won it in 2004, they said it was their first since '81.

Aye possibly, Dunloy Loughgiel had decent teams then, Skull could tell me better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2013, 10:52:24 PM
Since the early 80s, they had won 1 minor championship until the Janty Babes came along. The eldest of those lads is only about 21. That is far too young to be expecting senior championships from.

I won't be expecting any championships from them.
Some players can't hack it when the rest improve and they ain't the main men anymore - and the rest can't compete because they are dual players.
Jantys babes will be no different I suspect.
Sad but true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Feckin place is full of 'Jimmy Magee' wannabees.  Dream on  ::)  By the way, Ding was involved in 2003 and Neilly was a sub and did play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Feckin place is full of 'Jimmy Magee' wannabees.  Dream on  ::)  By the way, Ding was involved in 2003 and Neilly was a sub and did play.
you got the last bit correct Jimmy.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:26:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Feckin place is full of 'Jimmy Magee' wannabees.  Dream on  ::)  By the way, Ding was involved in 2003 and Neilly was a sub and did play.
you got the last bit correct Jimmy.  ;)
Correct on both counts SE, trust  me, I know what I am talking about  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
He came on as a sub I think.

Hmmmm I wonder who used that post, anyways google is a great way of getting information.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
He came on as a sub I think.

Hmmmm I wonder who used that post, anyways google is a great way of getting information.....
stick the link up mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
He came on as a sub I think.

Hmmmm I wonder who used that post, anyways google is a great way of getting information.....
stick the link up mr2.
a deftly silence SE, a deftly silence, I wonder  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 08:46:00 PM
None of them have been in ten in a row,  we got beat in 6 county finals in a row lost a semi. Then won 4 in a row.  Good few of them have been involved in all of the above.
Neilly, DD, Winker, Barney, Scully, Johnny, off the top of my head. There might be more.

Was Neilly McGarry involved in 2003?
He came on as a sub I think.

Hmmmm I wonder who used that post, anyways google is a great way of getting information.....
stick the link up mr2.

Just for you SIE, It's a good read ;)


Close call for Dunloy in SHC decider
06 October 2003

Reigning hurling champions Dunloy had to battle to the final whistle to overcome a talented Loughgiel side in what turned out to be a thrilling Antrim SHC Final at Casement Park, Belfast on Sunday 5th October - final score 1-16 to 2-12.

The all-important score came at the end of the match when county star Greg O'Kane converted a free which gave his side their fourth title in a row and their eighth title success in a decade.

And this final proved a great advertisement for the game in the Saffron county. The hurling was fast and furious with some excellent individual performers on both sides. While the Dunloy took the honours on this occasion, it must be recognised that the Loughgiel side came away from this final with a lot of pride and on this display they will be in contention for senior hurling honours in the years ahead.

The match turned into something of a scoring battle between two talented county players in Gregory O'Kane for Dunloy and Liam Watson for Loughgiel. O'Kane finished with a personal tally of 0-10 (six frees) while Watson contributed 1-8 (1-5 from frees). While Watson may have won this personal scoring battle, it was O'Kane and his team-mates that came away with the honours.

The real winner on this occasion was Antrim hurling, and some of the skills displayed by both teams was of the highest order, which must give senior county team boss, Dinny Cahill great encouragement for the future.

Scorers for Dunloy were - Greg O'Kane 0-10 (6 frees), Liam Richmond 0-2, A. Elliott 1-1, Gary O'Kane, M. Curry, Paddy Richmond 0-1 each.
Loughgiel scorers were - Liam Watson 1-8 (1-5 frees), B. McGarry 0-4, S. McGarry 1-0.

Dunloy - G. McGee; D. McMullan, S. Mullan, F. McMullan; P. McMullan, Gary O'Kane, M. Molloy; C. Cunning, C. McGuckian; M. McClements, Greg O'Kane, Liam Richmond; M. Curry, A. Elliott, Paddy Richmond. Subs - N. Elliott for P. McMullan; D. Quinn for L. Richmond; P. Martin for F. McMullan.

Loughgiel - D. D. Quinn; C. Casey, B. McAuley, J. Quinn; S. P. McKillop, E. McCloskey, J. Campbell; M. Scullion, B. Dillon; S. McGarry, C. McCloskey, A. McCloskey; B. McGarry, Liam Watson, C. Connolly. Subs - N. McGarry for E. McCloskey; S. McMullan for A. McCloskey.

Referee: E. McHugh from Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 10:04:31 AM
a deftly silence SE, a deftly silence, I wonder  ......................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on December 03, 2013, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 10:04:31 AM
a deftly silence SE, a deftly silence, I wonder  ......................

:o ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
Lol ;D  very good. Right on one account.  Wrong on another.  Wonder was ding available. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on December 03, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
Lol ;D  very good. Right on one account.  Wrong on another.  Wonder was ding available.

Ding was suspended.  Him and Roadstone got sent off against Ballycastle (I think).  Roadstone's red card was reversed however Dings was not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
Ballycastle had beat us in glenravel and dunloy the both years previously.   did we play them in glenravel this year or where?   honestly heads lost it. Lol.  That the year we went to a replay against rossa in semi final.  Scully was out of this world against big jim 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on December 03, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
Ballycastle had beat us in glenravel and dunloy the both years previously.   did we play them in glenravel this year or where?   honestly heads lost it. Lol.  That the year we went to a replay against rossa in semi final.  Scully was out of this world against big jim

I think it was Dunloy.  I think Roadstone was sent off for what looked like a double pull (he actually pulled on the ball hence why his red card was reversed) if I remember right.

Could be totally wrong though, so many matches so many years, they all just merge into one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
Ballycastle had beat us in glenravel and dunloy the both years previously.   did we play them in glenravel this year or where?   honestly heads lost it. Lol.  That the year we went to a replay against rossa in semi final.  Scully was out of this world against big jim

It's the ones you lose that you remember so much. Well I remember the main one well but I often remeber the pain of losing so it sticks with you longer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on December 03, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
Ballycastle had beat us in glenravel and dunloy the both years previously.   did we play them in glenravel this year or where?   honestly heads lost it. Lol.  That the year we went to a replay against rossa in semi final.  Scully was out of this world against big jim

I think it was Dunloy.  I think Roadstone was sent off for what looked like a double pull (he actually pulled on the ball hence why his red card was reversed) if I remember right.

Could be totally wrong though, so many matches so many years, they all just merge into one.

That roadstone was a hallion, I hope he's not teaching those U-12's his skulduggery?

;) its a joke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
He was as hard as they come.  Never normally any dirt.  The other brother wouldn't have to be invited to pull    ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 03, 2013, 12:03:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
He was as hard as they come.  Never normally any dirt.  The other brother wouldn't have to be invited to pull    ;D
Quote from: north aontroim gael on December 03, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:08:41 AM
Ballycastle had beat us in glenravel and dunloy the both years previously.   did we play them in glenravel this year or where?   honestly heads lost it. Lol.  That the year we went to a replay against rossa in semi final.  Scully was out of this world against big jim

I think it was Dunloy.  I think Roadstone was sent off for what looked like a double pull (he actually pulled on the ball hence why his red card was reversed) if I remember right.
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 11:58:10 AM
He was as hard as they come.  Never normally any dirt.  The other brother wouldn't have to be invited to pull    ;D

Could be totally wrong though, so many matches so many years, they all just merge into one.

Well if you do pull twice, it does increase the chances of you catching the ball even by mistake  ;)

He was as hard as they come.  Never normally any dirt.  The other brother wouldn't have to be invited to pull

Was he not taken off hurt in that Final after attempting a heavy tackle and coming off worse? if memory serves me correct?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 12:06:30 PM
Lol.  Ha.  It was the dall men invented the move FFS;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 03, 2013, 12:48:42 PM
The word 'pull' originated in Loughgiel did it not? Hence their fondness for its usage over the years.  That's what we were taught anyway growing up  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
Ding aswel SIE.  I don't think they were overly successful at under age.  It wasn't dominated for years on end anyway,  the younger of that group. Like Watson barney JC. Won a handful of U21s in a row

Won one of them in the committee room ;)

Yeah it's important to have that good juvenile base, Dunloy, Cushendall and Loughgiel have managed to bring those lads on into senior championship and perform, Ballycastle and the Johnnies have failed of late to turn that underage success into senior championships
too early to call johnnies or ballycastle.Johnnies team that won all the underage titles would be 18 or 19 year olds now.Before that team we won 1 minor title a few years ago.I think you,d have to wait 2-3 years on b-castle and 3-4 years on johnnies before writing them off.A group of talented kids can,t compete with a team like lougheil at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

He was a great hurler back in those days, aye that would have been a shock alright we could never get over the line against that Johnnies team, always about 5/6 points better than us, Rossa weren't great fo some reason then, St Pauls decent and Sarsfields would have been stronger than Rossa to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 03:06:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Honestly it was a bad team, Jim would have been just minor in 91 and that team was decent. They never beat us my year or the two years before that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
St Pats they were called were they not JC? I think that was about 93 or so?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
There was a St Patrick's team for sure - Glenarriffe and Cushendun maybe. Perhaps played in Ulster/Antrim colours?

And Moycarry Og or something before that?
(apologies on name spelling - hard to keep track of amalgamations in the same way)
Not sure of the colours - maybe blue?

Some Cushendun lads also hurled for the Dall under a sanction I think after that era.
Did they were their own club's socks and shorts - minor?

Apologies for any inaccuracy - so long ago the mind plays tricks!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
a deftly silence SE, a deftly silence, I wonder  ............... seems to be a couple of yoyo's missing today  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2013, 04:26:33 PM
Showing your age there boys. I dinny remember any of that.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2013, 04:30:15 PM
Lies.   ::) lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 03, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
A-RISE, A- RISE, A -RISE Sir Always Right, bloody marvellous  :D  I can resist everything except temptation  ;D  Some people just don't learn is this life.  Anyway, I wish the Shamrocks all the best on their AI quest, no reason why they cannot extend their success as the only hurling club in Ulster to win AI Senior hurling titles at club level,  on more than one occasion.  Wont be able to make it on Paddy's day should they succeed, away to the Big Apple.  Best of luck to them all the same ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 03, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 03, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
A-RISE, A- RISE, A -RISE Sir Always Right, bloody marvellous  :D  I can resist everything except temptation  ;D  Some people just don't learn is this life.  Anyway, I wish the Shamrocks all the best on their AI quest, no reason why they cannot extend their success as the only hurling club in Ulster to win AI Senior hurling titles at club level,  on more than one occasion.  Wont be able to make it on Paddy's day should they succeed, away to the Big Apple.  Best of luck to them all the same ;)

The refereeing expenses cheques have been paid out then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 03, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 03, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 03, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
A-RISE, A- RISE, A -RISE Sir Always Right, bloody marvellous  :D  I can resist everything except temptation  ;D  Some people just don't learn is this life.  Anyway, I wish the Shamrocks all the best on their AI quest, no reason why they cannot extend their success as the only hurling club in Ulster to win AI Senior hurling titles at club level,  on more than one occasion.  Wont be able to make it on Paddy's day should they succeed, away to the Big Apple.  Best of luck to them all the same ;)

The refereeing expenses cheques have been paid out then?
Nah, Antrim Admin so slow to pay out, just carpet bagging it for Xmas, happy days ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on December 03, 2013, 07:56:10 PM
All for the love of the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 03, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 02, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 02, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Feckin place is full of 'Jimmy Magee' wannabees.  Dream on  ::)  By the way, Ding was involved in 2003 and Neilly was a sub and did play.
you got the last bit correct Jimmy.  ;)
I stand corrected SE, though sure that Ding played in that game.  A senior moment, forgive me  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 02:50:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?
yes johnny,thats the same team.big donal was the same age.We beat lougheil in feile with big roadstone playing and your right he was tough hombre.We then won2 U-16s even managing to beat a dunloy team with horse and ally playing on it.at minor level our new manager decidedto totally re-arrange our team[midf,s playing in cf etc.]and we managed to get beat in a match we were huge favs although b-castle couldnt have been all that bad with 2 class acts like big ronan and colgan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:02:11 AM
That amalgamation team beat us narrowly the year before.Although it was a bit of ajoke as it was a very strong cushendun team[about 7on county panel]who should have been competing on their own.those defeats are still very hurtful.lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 05:02:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)
now icome to think of it ALLY and DICK  must not have had great success underage.Iknow we beat them u-16 in 87 ,u-21 in 92 and they never won a minor.Pretty sure they went to feile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clan Colla on December 04, 2013, 08:12:40 AM
Quote from: Clan Colla on December 02, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 02, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Spot on TommyGun!

No there will not be droves of McCooeys travelling to support - some will, and there will be plenty more supporting from an armchair.

The point is - there will be virtually none who will be shamrock-slapping or hoping they are beaten.

In the name of god when is this mindless slobbering about mc cooeys going to cease. They have forgotten they used to call the glens ones the sheoughies (shuckies).  Coming from a glens family and reared in Loughgiel where we had nothing but respect and affection for the hurling families of Belfast. Any one who remembers Seamus Stout Mc Donnell hurling or Seanie Burrns or Sean Collins would have to agree they were probably the best hurlers who ever came out of Antrim.  Further we are entitled to take pride in their families and communities, who stood against the assaults of a NATO army and their murderous allies for 30 plus years and somehow managed to keep some semblance of hurling going. For my part I like to see the mural in Cushendall reminding me of the fact that the people of Cushendall will stand by their traditions. Dunloy are entitled to massive respect for practically saving hurling at a time when Loughgiel and Ballycastle disappeared from the scene. It is true that Loughgiel  have showed the way and when this phase passes this time, it is a virtual certainty that Dunloy, Rossa, Cushendall or Ballycastle et al., will be hot handfuls for any southern opposition in the future. It is clear that the under 21's are heralding a new spirit in Antrim and Cork might find Ballycastle a bit of a Cauldron when they arrive for their National league match. It would be a start if we stopped pouring enfilade fire up our own trenches.

Remember Henry Joy

I have just found about this post and It is a fake. I have a fairly good idea who done it and how they  guessed  my password, which wasn't hard. I am deeply annoyed and do not understand the twisted sense of humour from so called friends, (yes D I know it was you) and therefore I intend to de-register in disgust.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 05:02:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)
now icome to think of it ALLY and DICK  must not have had great success underage.Iknow we beat them u-16 in 87 ,u-21 in 92 and they never won a minor.Pretty sure they went to feile?

Yeah Dunloy were at the Feile in 85 in Wexford as they beat us in the semi-final and then ended up getting beat by Birr in the final with a very small Brian Whelehan centre back for Birr.

That was the shape of things to come..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.

We were down a few players (Joe McCaff), though yous had a decent team at the time, we should have done better looking back, Aye and I remember your result against Roscommon as I thought you were nailed on for a win, strange grade all the same under 16
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
Yeah, we'd a superb team at the time, Stevie McAree was a great underage hurler, but somehow that never transferred to senior hurling for him. Barry Coulter was also on that team along with Gerard McGrattan who never won an underage competition with his club in Down, but was starting to show big things then and another lad Kevin McManus from Portaferry who was really good but emigrated to the states in his early 20's.
The best hurler in the Blayneys, Kevin, would also have been on it as well, he didn't have the speed of Mickey, but knew where the net was.
There was also a few lads from Newry Shamrocks and Kilkeel on that team as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
Yeah, we'd a superb team at the time, Stevie McAree was a great underage hurler, but somehow that never transferred to senior hurling for him. Barry Coulter was also on that team along with Gerard McGrattan who never won an underage competition with his club in Down, but was starting to show big things then and another lad Kevin McManus from Portaferry who was really good but emigrated to the states in his early 20's.
The best hurler in the Blayneys, Kevin, would also have been on it as well, he didn't have the speed of Mickey, but knew where the net was.
There was also a few lads from Newry Shamrocks and Kilkeel on that team as well

How many of those lads played for the secondary school in Portaferry? remember playing them a few times, all decent games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:40:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
Yeah, we'd a superb team at the time, Stevie McAree was a great underage hurler, but somehow that never transferred to senior hurling for him. Barry Coulter was also on that team along with Gerard McGrattan who never won an underage competition with his club in Down, but was starting to show big things then and another lad Kevin McManus from Portaferry who was really good but emigrated to the states in his early 20's.
The best hurler in the Blayneys, Kevin, would also have been on it as well, he didn't have the speed of Mickey, but knew where the net was.
There was also a few lads from Newry Shamrocks and Kilkeel on that team as well

How many of those lads played for the secondary school in Portaferry? remember playing them a few times, all decent games

Most lads back then would have went to St Columba's in Portaferry, with a few to the Red high in Downpatrick. Kevin Blayney was the exception as he initially went to some school in Belfast and then to the St Colmans in Newry in his latter years I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:40:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 09:00:51 AM
Yeah, we'd a superb team at the time, Stevie McAree was a great underage hurler, but somehow that never transferred to senior hurling for him. Barry Coulter was also on that team along with Gerard McGrattan who never won an underage competition with his club in Down, but was starting to show big things then and another lad Kevin McManus from Portaferry who was really good but emigrated to the states in his early 20's.
The best hurler in the Blayneys, Kevin, would also have been on it as well, he didn't have the speed of Mickey, but knew where the net was.
There was also a few lads from Newry Shamrocks and Kilkeel on that team as well

How many of those lads played for the secondary school in Portaferry? remember playing them a few times, all decent games

Most lads back then would have went to St Columba's in Portaferry, with a few to the Red high in Downpatrick. Kevin Blayney was the exception as he initially went to some school in Belfast and then to the St Colmans in Newry in his latter years I think.

Most of the Blayney's went to St Mary's. Kevin was like a rubber man, when you hit him he bounced straight back up lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Andy came to us at u-16 then doc started with us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaelic Life on December 04, 2013, 12:11:04 PM
Though I'd throw this in here seeing as Antrim clubs did the clean sweep.

We're close to our third annual Ulster Club All-star Awards.

For the first time we'll also be picking a hurling 15 of the championship at the event in January so there'll be 45 nominees for each code.

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Andy came to us at u-16 then doc started with us.

I'll have to ask my cuz on that one, Andy was decent, a left hander but I don't think ever played too much after a few seasons with Clonard. Whatever happened to Dee Braniff (think that was his name, marked him football and hurling, wild streak about him during a game, those Ballymurphy players you had all had that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.
i played that day in midfield that day with the aforementioned JoeMcCaf.It looked like we were gonna beat yous that day until yous switched SteveyMcAree from fb to chb.A great game,played on a sweltering hot day in front of a huge crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:25:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Andy came to us at u-16 then doc started with us.
Andy defo did.he scored 2 points v dunloy in u-16 final in 87.dee went to lamh dearg and played a bit of senior footy for them but mostly focussed on soccer

I'll have to ask my cuz on that one, Andy was decent, a left hander but I don't think ever played too much after a few seasons with Clonard. Whatever happened to Dee Braniff (think that was his name, marked him football and hurling, wild streak about him during a game, those Ballymurphy players you had all had that ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.
i played that day in midfield that day with the aforementioned JoeMcCaf.It looked like we were gonna beat yous that day until yous switched SteveyMcAree from fb to chb.A great game,played on a sweltering hot day in front of a huge crowd.

Stevie got a telling off after that as he'd used the f word in his acceptance speech after the game in Clones. He'd to write a letter of apology to the Ulster council. Then the bus on the way home got stopped in Dundonald as some lads had beared their arse out the back window going through it and the cops were sitting two cars behind the bus.
Yet more warnings dished out, this time in the local cop shop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.
i played that day in midfield that day with the aforementioned JoeMcCaf.It looked like we were gonna beat yous that day until yous switched SteveyMcAree from fb to chb.A great game,played on a sweltering hot day in front of a huge crowd.

Ally played under 16 when we won the all Ireland B final, scored a goal against Down (in the league) from the corner flag, was best goal I've seen from him and I've seen a right few over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:25:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Andy came to us at u-16 then doc started with us.
Andy defo did.he scored 2 points v dunloy in u-16 final in 87.dee went to lamh dearg and played a bit of senior footy for them but mostly focussed on soccer

I'll have to ask my cuz on that one, Andy was decent, a left hander but I don't think ever played too much after a few seasons with Clonard. Whatever happened to Dee Braniff (think that was his name, marked him football and hurling, wild streak about him during a game, those Ballymurphy players you had all had that ;)
I saw a few bad strokes by Dee alright.We used to have great battles with galls then u-12 to u-16 hurling but by minor yous just faded,what caused that MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 08:44:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 03, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2013, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 03, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
no MR I think ronan donnellys ballycastle won it that year in a surprise result.We,ve only won it once in 30 years before this present teams successes.

jftj,

Are you talking about minor about the time of Jimmy Wilson, John Kelly a Nugent and maybe big long Donal Kennedy although I think he's a year or so younger?

Aye they were minors 1990 (fcuk i feel like a old man)
We couldn't have been that bad then, milltown. We won it in '91.

Dunloy would probably have been on the wane at minor at that time, Ally Elliott and Co would have been one of the top teams the previous year I presume?

We won the Ulster championship at minor that year (89) and for some reason Elliott didn't play for Antrim at the time, think horse might have though.

Was there not a Cushendun/Grahams/Glenariffe amalgamation of some name or other pretty strong around the same time, leading into the strong Cushendun team thereafter?

Ballycastle IIRC had Ronan and Owen Colgan and some wee shit in the corner who could run like hell, may be their manager now  :)

Beat us in 88 Johnney at under 16 Newry or Athletic Grounds, I was doing nets in that game :(

That as well MR2, it was in Armagh as I was present myself that day, at the other end of the pitch.  A brutish Roscommon team featuring a giant Colm Kelly beat us in the final.

We won the minor a year later in Clones of all places.
i played that day in midfield that day with the aforementioned JoeMcCaf.It looked like we were gonna beat yous that day until yous switched SteveyMcAree from fb to chb.A great game,played on a sweltering hot day in front of a huge crowd.

Stevie got a telling off after that as he'd used the f word in his acceptance speech after the game in Clones. He'd to write a letter of apology to the Ulster council. Then the bus on the way home got stopped in Dundonald as some lads had beared their arse out the back window going through it and the cops were sitting two cars behind the bus.
Yet more warnings dished out, this time in the local cop shop.
those were the days johnny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:25:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
i think we might have obtained one of your better hurlers then MR-andy fennel

I don't think it was Andy that yous got, thinking it was his younger brother Doc Fennel, they they all left and played for Clonard when they started up again
Andy came to us at u-16 then doc started with us.
Andy defo did.he scored 2 points v dunloy in u-16 final in 87.dee went to lamh dearg and played a bit of senior footy for them but mostly focussed on soccer

I'll have to ask my cuz on that one, Andy was decent, a left hander but I don't think ever played too much after a few seasons with Clonard. Whatever happened to Dee Braniff (think that was his name, marked him football and hurling, wild streak about him during a game, those Ballymurphy players you had all had that ;)
I saw a few bad strokes by Dee alright.We used to have great battles with galls then u-12 to u-16 hurling but by minor yous just faded,what caused that MR2.

Don't know we were a small enough panel in fairness, a few footballers that were dragged out to play hurling, their heart was never in it but in those days they still played, now you more or less don't have any sole footballers trying hurling at all, it's starting to become a separate sport which in the long run may actually develop hurling.

We'd some big players in Tom Healy HM and Conlieth Donaghy also was our leader!!, we'd other lads to just not enough to build a team. Strange thing (well for me anyway) was that we all went on to the senior team that just got promoted that year (88) and playing Rossa Cushendall, Castle Loughgiel were all great experiences but christ it was hard, are only win was against yous at our pitch one Wed night, played corner back and was great to get that win I tell ya!! West Belfast MLA playing that night too.

As you say some great memories, some stories have changed no doubt over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
HM = Hilary McDaniels??

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
HM = Hilary McDaniels??

Aye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
HM = Hilary McDaniels??

Aye

His da used to be a barman in a wee bar on Hawthorn street where I lived for a while, he'd played hurling against my Da years ago and thankfully that helped break the ice with the local clientele as the strange Ulster scots accents were getting some looks back then!
Junior HM played a bit of freshers hurling at UUJ IIRC, as did Conleth before he thought he was better at the big ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
HM = Hilary McDaniels??

Aye

His da used to be a barman in a wee bar on Hawthorn street where I lived for a while, he'd played hurling against my Da years ago and thankfully that helped break the ice with the local clientele as the strange Ulster scots accents were getting some looks back then!
Junior HM played a bit of freshers hurling at UUJ IIRC, as did Conleth before he thought he was better at the big ball.

Aye Hawthorn street bar, smallest bar in the West, was someones house ffs, Hanratty's?? Aye Hilary was a good back in those days took all our juvenile hurling teams for years!!! Great fella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on December 04, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
Is HM still living in belfast.Haven,t seen him in years.Good aul crack back in the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
I think so, Not sure where though, He's got a youngster so no doubt he'll be teaching him and he'll be at the club in due time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 06, 2013, 12:36:21 AM
Boring stuff this, needs a bit of a liven er :P  Hate this time of the year, hurling season over and no controversy in the offing. Sure the convention is sure to bring about some dirt, plus the imminent standing down of JM and the elevation of wee JE. None of you fellas running against wee JE, then again on 2nd thoughts, wee JE may not be a bad otion in this case  ;) :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 06, 2013, 10:51:30 AM
Are there any more events for Anto Finnegan or any ways to donate?

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on December 06, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: Glensman on December 06, 2013, 10:51:30 AM
Are there any more events for Anto Finnegan or any ways to donate?

Cheers

Yes there are other events planned Glens and when I have details I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 06, 2013, 11:49:58 AM
Planning a cycle Dublin to Belfast or vice versa, if Im not mistaken to raise funds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on December 07, 2013, 03:25:03 PM
Football game at Ravenhill, Black tie do at Europa, cycle and few other things afaik
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 08, 2013, 05:04:08 PM
Day of reckoning tomorrow evening - 'The County Convention'.  Heaven help us all, but we are in the gutter.  Why was I born in this godforsaken and under achieving county?  I really do deserve better ya know ;)  Must check if my grand parents are from Down or Tyrone  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 11:36:25 AM
Any new managers been appointed for the coming season? Our lads are training away, well some gym stuff and a bitta 7 a sides to bring them up to xmas break. We'd need to get up to speed very quickly and try and get some points on the board early on before the bigger teams come good and our footballers get a run in the championship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 02:25:52 PM
I believe dick is in with the neighbours, James mc naughton back over the dall and humpy is to help wee Micky.  All well respected with in there own clubs. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 02:25:52 PM
I believe dick is in with the neighbours, James mc naughton back over the dall and humpy is to help wee Micky.  All well respected with in there own clubs.

Dunloy not short on leaders, Humpy as you say well respected and I thought Ballycastle came up short in Championship (as they all did) but have room for improvement, I thought Sambo was going to have a go at the Dall? Coaching? I'd make my team watch their performances in championship (if recorded) for preseason, would certainly show up a lot of faults, and embarrass a few senior players at their clubs.

PJ going to stay after the All Ireland run? Hard going for him too in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
I think its James mc naughton and young Brian delargy.  I may be wrong.   heard a few different whispers about pj.  One lad saying this is the last hooray.  Another said he's staying put,  he has gave the club a monster effort as past 4years so id imagine its up to himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
I think its James mc naughton and young Brian delargy.  I may be wrong.   heard a few different whispers about pj.  One lad saying this is the last hooray.  Another said he's staying put,  he has gave the club a monster effort as past 4years so id imagine its up to himself.

Yeah, it's a tough ask every year, he can sit back for a few seasons and re charge the batteries, maybe play a bit of reserve hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
Taking Tommy back up the road would be nice way to bow out.  If indeed he even is.  One can dream :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
Taking Tommy back up the road would be nice way to bow out.  If indeed he even is.  One can dream :)

Let not his epitaph be written eh!

Serious hurling man. And servant to loughgiel. Chip off the old block?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2013, 08:37:01 PM
Surprised James McNaughton is back with Cushendall, he wasn't overly popular with the players last time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 09, 2013, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
Taking Tommy back up the road would be nice way to bow out.  If indeed he even is.  One can dream :)

Let not his epitaph be written eh!

Serious hurling man. And servant to loughgiel. Chip off the old block?!

Has no one told you ffs there are no chippys in Loughgiel!! We are the chip eaters ffs :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
Motion passed tonight to play a 10 team league Div 1 with all teams playing each other once. After which the top 5 teams play for the title and bottom 5 play to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
Motion passed tonight to play a 10 team league Div 1 with all teams playing each other once. After which the top 5 teams play for the title and bottom 5 play to avoid relegation.

I think that's a great idea in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2013, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
Motion passed tonight to play a 10 team league Div 1 with all teams playing each other once. After which the top 5 teams play for the title and bottom 5 play to avoid relegation.

I think that's a great idea in fairness
It certainly gives the middle teams something to think about!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2013, 11:06:50 PM
I can see the merits of this - it means the bigger teams don't have any walkover games and a strong league. And also the weaker teams don't play out a meaningless season doomed to relegation.

It's a mute point perhaps - but the motivation is certainly not the general improvement of hurling standards in Antrim. Rather it's a case of the big glens clubs wanting a closed shop.

I will explain my point this way - isn't what Antrim have just done in the domestic leagues exactly what they don't want done on the national stage?

Internal - big teams play each other more often, weaker teams play each other too.

External - please don't have an elite league we need to play the big boys to help us improve.

I understand fully and appreciate the rationale behind this re-structure.
But you have to at least accept it's contradictory with the county's ideology in national leagues.

Put it this way - if I was a delegate from cork/limerick etc and jim Murray was asking for the like of Antrim to be included with top teams? I'd be telling him that if it's good enough to run his club leagues like that then he can lump it at county level too!

They are different animals yes - but the ideology or theory behind it is identical.
That is, it suits strong teams but it's questionable whether it will improve standards overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 09, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Just back from Dunsilly, another hectic night and were fcuked now. Some of you innovators,  inspirationalists should have been there for some enlightenment, then again, actions speak louder than words ;) Same hotel, same shit, same, same faces and no progress I am afraid to say! But hey, this is democracy  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 08:48:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 09, 2013, 11:06:50 PM
I can see the merits of this - it means the bigger teams don't have any walkover games and a strong league. And also the weaker teams don't play out a meaningless season doomed to relegation.

It's a mute point perhaps - but the motivation is certainly not the general improvement of hurling standards in Antrim. Rather it's a case of the big glens clubs wanting a closed shop.

I will explain my point this way - isn't what Antrim have just done in the domestic leagues exactly what they don't want done on the national stage?

Internal - big teams play each other more often, weaker teams play each other too.

External - please don't have an elite league we need to play the big boys to help us improve.

I understand fully and appreciate the rationale behind this re-structure.
But you have to at least accept it's contradictory with the county's ideology in national leagues.

Put it this way - if I was a delegate from cork/limerick etc and jim Murray was asking for the like of Antrim to be included with top teams? I'd be telling him that if it's good enough to run his club leagues like that then he can lump it at county level too!

They are different animals yes - but the ideology or theory behind it is identical.
That is, it suits strong teams but it's questionable whether it will improve standards overall.

Look everyone plays each other once so they are getting games against the best teams, as Tony has pointed out it gives the middle teams something to think about, The Down teams The Johnnies and whoever else finds themselves down there will have a few tough games to sort out staying in the div 1 league, these games should become championship style games and used that way as great prep for Championship.

Anything is better than what's happened before, the league games at the end of the year are rubbish. In the National leagues it's different as they are playing for survival or winning the league and there is more importance in them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
I think its a good idea and one I posted on here a year or so ago IIRC.

It gives the up and coming teams a chance to pit their wits against the strong teams who're probably not at full steam in the early months of the summer. The teams in the middle will be going hammer and tongs from the get go to ensure they get into the top five.

The teams in the bottom who've either just come up from Div2 and possibly struggling at a new level won't get hammered off the park every week as when the league splits they'll miss the big teams and have a more realistic shout against the lower teams.

The big teams get a reduction in needless one sided games as they see it, so there's something in it for everybody.

There's a Cran lunatic on Hoganstand and he came up with a good point on the 'luck of the draw' for the first set of fixtures. If you're fortunate enough to get a good few home games against your immediate competition for a top 5 spot then its a pretty big advantage, but I'm sure the draw with all be above board and transparent as everything is in Antrim..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
I think its a good idea and one I posted on here a year or so ago IIRC.

It gives the up and coming teams a chance to pit their wits against the strong teams who're probably not at full steam in the early months of the summer. The teams in the middle will be going hammer and tongs from the get go to ensure they get into the top five.

The teams in the bottom who've either just come up from Div2 and possibly struggling at a new level won't get hammered off the park every week as when the league splits they'll miss the big teams and have a more realistic shout against the lower teams.

The big teams get a reduction in needless one sided games as they see it, so there's something in it for everybody.

There's a Cran lunatic on Hoganstand and he came up with a good point on the 'luck of the draw' for the first set of fixtures. If you're fortunate enough to get a good few home games against your immediate competition for a top 5 spot then its a pretty big advantage, but I'm sure the draw with all be above board and transparent as everything is in Antrim..

This is the case, a good idea would be to have all the top teams who will be in the top five should play the lesser teams away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
I think its a good idea and one I posted on here a year or so ago IIRC.

It gives the up and coming teams a chance to pit their wits against the strong teams who're probably not at full steam in the early months of the summer. The teams in the middle will be going hammer and tongs from the get go to ensure they get into the top five.

The teams in the bottom who've either just come up from Div2 and possibly struggling at a new level won't get hammered off the park every week as when the league splits they'll miss the big teams and have a more realistic shout against the lower teams.

The big teams get a reduction in needless one sided games as they see it, so there's something in it for everybody.

There's a Cran lunatic on Hoganstand and he came up with a good point on the 'luck of the draw' for the first set of fixtures. If you're fortunate enough to get a good few home games against your immediate competition for a top 5 spot then its a pretty big advantage, but I'm sure the draw with all be above board and transparent as everything is in Antrim..

This is the case, a good idea would be to have all the top teams who will be in the top five should play the lesser teams away?

The top three would be loughguile, Dunloy and Cushendall, followed by Ballycastle, then IMO you've ourselves St Johns, the Crans and possibly the Ports if they sort themselves out vying for that last spot. We'd fancy our chances of taking points of Ballycastle if we got them at home, St Johns are a very different proposition at home in Corrigan than they are away from it.

Yourselves and the Sars will be looking for points off the middle tier at home in Milltown and the bear pit in the first round, so I'm sure you'd prefer to go away to Loughguile and have a winnable game at home, would you not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:02:22 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 10, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
I think its a good idea and one I posted on here a year or so ago IIRC.

It gives the up and coming teams a chance to pit their wits against the strong teams who're probably not at full steam in the early months of the summer. The teams in the middle will be going hammer and tongs from the get go to ensure they get into the top five.

The teams in the bottom who've either just come up from Div2 and possibly struggling at a new level won't get hammered off the park every week as when the league splits they'll miss the big teams and have a more realistic shout against the lower teams.

The big teams get a reduction in needless one sided games as they see it, so there's something in it for everybody.

There's a Cran lunatic on Hoganstand and he came up with a good point on the 'luck of the draw' for the first set of fixtures. If you're fortunate enough to get a good few home games against your immediate competition for a top 5 spot then its a pretty big advantage, but I'm sure the draw with all be above board and transparent as everything is in Antrim..

This is the case, a good idea would be to have all the top teams who will be in the top five should play the lesser teams away?

The top three would be loughguile, Dunloy and Cushendall, followed by Ballycastle, then IMO you've ourselves St Johns, the Crans and possibly the Ports if they sort themselves out vying for that last spot. We'd fancy our chances of taking points of Ballycastle if we got them at home, St Johns are a very different proposition at home in Corrigan than they are away from it.

Yourselves and the Sars will be looking for points off the middle tier at home in Milltown and the bear pit in the first round, so I'm sure you'd prefer to go away to Loughguile and have a winnable game at home, would you not?

Possibly Johnney it would be the best option. Ideally Sarsfields away One of the Down teams at home, not Ports as we've always got a tanking down there for some reason never been close, harder battles at home with them, yourselves and Crans we seem to play well enough away from home, especially the Crans we've won a couple down there. Dall hat home Loughgiel and the Castle away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 10, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.

If the other clubs did what the big three/ four do in terms of commitment and training and application then we could have an argument about this btdtgtt. But until this is the case then the other teams will just have to up their own end of things to compete before they start to complain about an unfair system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.
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I think Loughgiel and the Dunloys of the county have proved themselves more than capable of competing with Southern teams, as for the Antrim team well that's a different story all together and has nothing to do with the league structures if truth be told, it's more about how the players want to buy into what Ryan wants, as they are training away and it's how they develop those skills from sessions they have.

We will be playing some teams twice who that is will be all down to how we do in the first phase of things, again that's down to how a team prepares before the league starts, us and Sarsfields will be the lightweights here but it needs to start somewhere, the Dunloys and Loughgiels will no doubt beat us and probably beat us twice in the old format, what will we learn from a double hammering?

I know if I were still playing I'd be looking forward to it, I don't know who came up with the idea but there must not have been too much resistance for it since it passed, only 4 teams in my view would have voted for it with your train of thought but there are more teams in Antrim than the top 4 who have a say in the voting. If ourselves and Sarsfields are relegated then it's no surprise and we'll still have had higher tempo games against better opposition which will best prepare us for championship surely??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 10, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.

If the other clubs did what the big three/ four do in terms of commitment and training and application then we could have an argument about this btdtgtt. But until this is the case then the other teams will just have to up their own end of things to compete before they start to complain about an unfair system.

I don't dispute that - the point I am making is that this re-structure is for the benefit of those bigger teams rather than the county as a whole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 10, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.

If the other clubs did what the big three/ four do in terms of commitment and training and application then we could have an argument about this btdtgtt. But until this is the case then the other teams will just have to up their own end of things to compete before they start to complain about an unfair system.

I don't dispute that - the point I am making is that this re-structure is for the benefit of those bigger teams rather than the county as a whole.

Question:

Will there be more meaningfull games this year in Div one?

Will there be better chance of staying up when the league splits and you play teams of the same standard?

Will these games sharpen you skills/fitness on the lead up to championship?

Will the bottom teams have a chance against Loughgiel in the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.
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I think Loughgiel and the Dunloys of the county have proved themselves more than capable of competing with Southern teams, as for the Antrim team well that's a different story all together and has nothing to do with the league structures if truth be told, it's more about how the players want to buy into what Ryan wants, as they are training away and it's how they develop those skills from sessions they have.

We will be playing some teams twice who that is will be all down to how we do in the first phase of things, again that's down to how a team prepares before the league starts, us and Sarsfields will be the lightweights here but it needs to start somewhere, the Dunloys and Loughgiels will no doubt beat us and probably beat us twice in the old format, what will we learn from a double hammering?

I know if I were still playing I'd be looking forward to it, I don't know who came up with the idea but there must not have been too much resistance for it since it passed, only 4 teams in my view would have voted for it with your train of thought but there are more teams in Antrim that the top 4 who have a say in the voting. If ourselves and Sarsfields are relegated then it's no surprise and we'll still have had higher tempo games against better opposition which will best prepare us for championship surely??

Obviously our clubs have represented us well when competing in the South - I clearly stated that my point was with reference to Antrim hurling as a whole.
I find it ridiculous to suggest that internal structures don't have a role in affecting outcomes at county level.

And again, I noted the merits of the systems - I just said that they were a direct contradiction of Antrim's position in terms of the National Hurling League. One ideology & theory is against the other.

So no change - its a system proposed by the big/stronger clubs for their own benefit. Thats just a fact. Lets not kid ourselves that whatever the outcome - that was the motivation. Not the first time, and won't be the last.

Its a simple point - unrelated to the actual merits or putting the onus on teams to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.
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I think Loughgiel and the Dunloys of the county have proved themselves more than capable of competing with Southern teams, as for the Antrim team well that's a different story all together and has nothing to do with the league structures if truth be told, it's more about how the players want to buy into what Ryan wants, as they are training away and it's how they develop those skills from sessions they have.

We will be playing some teams twice who that is will be all down to how we do in the first phase of things, again that's down to how a team prepares before the league starts, us and Sarsfields will be the lightweights here but it needs to start somewhere, the Dunloys and Loughgiels will no doubt beat us and probably beat us twice in the old format, what will we learn from a double hammering?

I know if I were still playing I'd be looking forward to it, I don't know who came up with the idea but there must not have been too much resistance for it since it passed, only 4 teams in my view would have voted for it with your train of thought but there are more teams in Antrim that the top 4 who have a say in the voting. If ourselves and Sarsfields are relegated then it's no surprise and we'll still have had higher tempo games against better opposition which will best prepare us for championship surely??

Obviously our clubs have represented us well when competing in the South - I clearly stated that my point was with reference to Antrim hurling as a whole.
I find it ridiculous to suggest that internal structures don't have a role in affecting outcomes at county level.

And again, I noted the merits of the systems - I just said that they were a direct contradiction of Antrim's position in terms of the National Hurling League. One ideology & theory is against the other.

So no change - its a system proposed by the big/stronger clubs for their own benefit. Thats just a fact. Lets not kid ourselves that whatever the outcome - that was the motivation. Not the first time, and won't be the last.

Its a simple point - unrelated to the actual merits or putting the onus on teams to improve.

How will it affect the Antrim team in a bad way? Teams training and playing meaningfull league games will ensure training till the end of the season two up two down will concentrate the minds more of the middle tier teams thus improving the players who could possibly force themselves on to the panel the following season.

I don't know and neither do you until it happens ffs, lets try it and if it doesn't work then at least we gave it a go, you've yet to state a method of improving the standard so if you are going to debate about it at least have something to debate on rather rubbishing it with nothing else to replace it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 01:45:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 10, 2013, 09:05:32 AM
Is thsi new league structure being rolled out to the other divsions or is it unique to division 1? Seems very starnge if that is the case.

Also true - if its good enough for Division 1 then why not the rest of the leagues?

The reason - because the true motivation behind it is that the big Glens teams just wanted their own we closed shop and didn't care to notice the rest of the divisions exist.

Again - this is because the motion is not in tandem with increasing club & county standards as a whole - its about perpetuating those elite few clubs.

You will be surprised at how some people in those clubs have no difficulty in admitting that! "As is our want" was the expression used to me.
Cant argue with that.

You did read the bit where all the teams play each other once? It is up to the rest to bring themselves up to that standard, we will be looking to raise the standard and our target will be to reach mid table, might not get there, more than likely be fighting it out at the bottom but at least it will give us a few targets to try and reach.We know Ballycastle, loughgiel, Dunloy and Cushendall will be in the top 4 or should be but the 5th position may be and option for a team, the Johnnies will be targeting that the Down teams also.

I did read it that MR2!
But I don't think the likes of yourselves should be grateful for that one game!
The fact is that previously it was twice!
Imagine your boss halved your wages but then said - cheer up I'm still giving you the other half!

I also did say the system has some merits - but advancing hurling in general is not one of them. Perpetuating the current strong/weak teams is the nett outcome.
The fact is that the rationale behind this is selfish interests from the big clubs. That's who the proposal came from - and to think it's any think other than that is incredibly naieve.

After all - why were the other divisions ignored then?!

They were ignored because loughgiel cushendall Dunloy & ballycastle couldn't care for their existence - this is a good structure for those clubs - but it doesn't consider Antrim hurling as a whole.

Remember that when we consider standards in Antrim competing with southern opposition.
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I think Loughgiel and the Dunloys of the county have proved themselves more than capable of competing with Southern teams, as for the Antrim team well that's a different story all together and has nothing to do with the league structures if truth be told, it's more about how the players want to buy into what Ryan wants, as they are training away and it's how they develop those skills from sessions they have.

We will be playing some teams twice who that is will be all down to how we do in the first phase of things, again that's down to how a team prepares before the league starts, us and Sarsfields will be the lightweights here but it needs to start somewhere, the Dunloys and Loughgiels will no doubt beat us and probably beat us twice in the old format, what will we learn from a double hammering?

I know if I were still playing I'd be looking forward to it, I don't know who came up with the idea but there must not have been too much resistance for it since it passed, only 4 teams in my view would have voted for it with your train of thought but there are more teams in Antrim that the top 4 who have a say in the voting. If ourselves and Sarsfields are relegated then it's no surprise and we'll still have had higher tempo games against better opposition which will best prepare us for championship surely??

Obviously our clubs have represented us well when competing in the South - I clearly stated that my point was with reference to Antrim hurling as a whole.
I find it ridiculous to suggest that internal structures don't have a role in affecting outcomes at county level.

And again, I noted the merits of the systems - I just said that they were a direct contradiction of Antrim's position in terms of the National Hurling League. One ideology & theory is against the other.

So no change - its a system proposed by the big/stronger clubs for their own benefit. Thats just a fact. Lets not kid ourselves that whatever the outcome - that was the motivation. Not the first time, and won't be the last.

Its a simple point - unrelated to the actual merits or putting the onus on teams to improve.

How will it affect the Antrim team in a bad way?

I'm not certain it will - but I think generally a system which encourages the strong to remain strong and the weak to remain weak does not help. Thats was Antrim have been arguing on the national stage.

Teams training and playing meaningfull league games will ensure training till the end of the season two up two down will concentrate the minds more of the middle tier teams thus improving the players who could possibly force themselves on to the panel the following season.

I don't know and neither do you until it happens ffs, lets try it and if it doesn't work then at least we gave it a go, you've yet to state a method of improving the standard so if you are going to debate about it at least have something to debate on rather rubbishing it with nothing else to replace it

Read my posts - you are answering a totally different argument to the one I am making.

I said from the very outset that I see the merits in this re-structure. Its in the first line of my first post on it.

If you want to argue the point - at least argue with what I said!

That is, that the motivation behind this was from the strong clubs, to ensure they play each other.
I also said that the re-structure is at odds with Antrim's position with how leagues should be structured on the national stage.
Do you disagree with those points?
Because otherwise you have assumed I am arguing something totally different from the points you made.

Much of the positives you outline I am in full agreement with - hopefully it will improve the leagues - and if it does maybe then they will see fit to introduce it in the less priviledged lower leagues  ;)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
You said it will affect Antrim as a whole but then state that it will generally improve it

If it's only in Div one and if it works out well I'm sure they will have the sense to introduce it to the less privilege teams like Rossa ;)

Yes you can't argue about being left out of the National leagues but here's the thing, the county allow the clubs to bring in motions then we as a democratic body vote to go with it or not, if you are on the committee of your club then you will have had that option at your clubs agm.

So what the County Board want and what the clubs want are two different arguments don't you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
You said it will affect Antrim as a whole but then state that it will generally improve it

There's no contradiction there - it might improve that league in terms of competitivenessfor some, but it won't improve that standard of Antrim hurling. For example - Div2 has been more competitive than Div1 across the board - this didnt make it a better standard.

If it's only in Div one and if it works out well I'm sure they will have the sense to introduce it to the less privilege teams like Rossa ;)

Lets not pretend its an experiment that might be extended - its plainly obvious its a proposal by the big clubs, for the big clubs.
Although I certainly wouldn't describe Rossa as under-priviledged! I can't say much negative about them any more I live in fear!

Yes you can't argue about being left out of the National leagues but here's the thing, the county allow the clubs to bring in motions then we as a democratic body vote to go with it or not, if you are on the committee of your club then you will have had that option at your clubs agm.

I fully agree with this notion - but is football clubs voting to pass hurling motions and vice-versa not a distortion of democracy? Bigger issue here.

So what the County Board want and what the clubs want are two different arguments don't you think?

Maybe you should take that to the County Website Admin - I think his unique style addressed it best!
This doesn't address the contradiction in Antrim's approach to leagues on the local vs national stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
You said it will affect Antrim as a whole but then state that it will generally improve it

There's no contradiction there - it might improve that league for some, but it won't improve that standard of Antrim hurling.

If it's only in Div one and if it works out well I'm sure they will have the sense to introduce it to the less privilege teams like Rossa ;)

Lets not pretend its an experiment that might be extended - its plainly obvious its a proposal by the big clubs, for the big clubs.
Although I certainly wouldn't describe Rossa as under-priviledged! I can't say much negative about them any more I live in fear!

Yes you can't argue about being left out of the National leagues but here's the thing, the county allow the clubs to bring in motions then we as a democratic body vote to go with it or not, if you are on the committee of your club then you will have had that option at your clubs agm.

I fully agree with this notion - but is football clubs voting to pass hurling motions and vice-versa not a distortion of democracy? Bigger issue here.

So what the County Board want and what the clubs want are two different arguments don't you think?

Maybe you should take that to the County Website Admin - I think his unique style addressed it best!
This doesn't address the contradiction in Antrim's approach to leagues on the local vs national stage.

Lets deal with the hear and now, the standard is poor in Antrim and from what I seen in Div 2 last year and I played a couple of games too it was pretty dire. The lower leagues even worse off bar maybe two teams in div 1 the standard in the league was decent, with strong hurlers in most parts. Come Championship though some teams under performed and were blown out of the water. Will this structure improve hurling for the Antrim hurling team we won't know for sure.

Did the big hurling clubs table this motion? Maybe I don't know if they did (you don't either) and if you are an affiliated club, football hurling or dual I think you can vote on all issues tabled at the convention
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
You said it will affect Antrim as a whole but then state that it will generally improve it

There's no contradiction there - it might improve that league for some, but it won't improve that standard of Antrim hurling.

If it's only in Div one and if it works out well I'm sure they will have the sense to introduce it to the less privilege teams like Rossa ;)

Lets not pretend its an experiment that might be extended - its plainly obvious its a proposal by the big clubs, for the big clubs.
Although I certainly wouldn't describe Rossa as under-priviledged! I can't say much negative about them any more I live in fear!

Yes you can't argue about being left out of the National leagues but here's the thing, the county allow the clubs to bring in motions then we as a democratic body vote to go with it or not, if you are on the committee of your club then you will have had that option at your clubs agm.

I fully agree with this notion - but is football clubs voting to pass hurling motions and vice-versa not a distortion of democracy? Bigger issue here.

So what the County Board want and what the clubs want are two different arguments don't you think?

Maybe you should take that to the County Website Admin - I think his unique style addressed it best!
This doesn't address the contradiction in Antrim's approach to leagues on the local vs national stage.

Lets deal with the hear and now, the standard is poor in Antrim and from what I seen in Div 2 last year and I played a couple of games too it was pretty dire. The lower leagues even worse off bar maybe two teams in div 1 the standard in the league was decent, with strong hurlers in most parts. Come Championship though some teams under performed and were blown out of the water. Will this structure improve hurling for the Antrim hurling team we won't know for sure.

Its not that I agrees / disagree with any of that - its just a separate point than I was making.

Did the big hurling clubs table this motion? Maybe I don't know if they did (you don't either) and if you are an affiliated club, football hurling or dual I think you can vote on all issues tabled at the convention

The motion was from Cushendall - openly published (well done Antrim).
And I know it was a vote - I just questioned the wisdom of clubs voting on issues which don't concern them becasue its a distortion and is open to abuse (ie) horse-trading to get motions passed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
Jesus btdtgtt youre a whinging hoor.

How can anyone from a Div1 club know what will work in lower divisions? If a motion is put forward specific to Div1, other delegates with knowledge of lower leagues could have asked that the motion was amended to consider the lower leagues if they themselves thought it would benefit them.

FFS ...finding ulterior motives where there are none.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 10, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
i think btdtgtt should maybe go and ask someone who was there last night or whoever proposed the motion before making assumptions

i know very little about it but afaik it is something to do with helping getting more games played without county players - hence mainly affecting Div 1.

Club teams wont have their county players right up to at least July.

As i said im not sure so i am open to correction.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 10, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
i think btdtgtt should maybe go and ask someone who was there last night or whoever proposed the motion before making assumptions

i know very little about it but afaik it is something to do with helping getting more games played without county players - hence mainly affecting Div 1.

Club teams wont have their county players right up to at least July.

As i said im not sure so i am open to correction.  :-\

There was talk of the county hurlers missing games. Bt it isn't the failed star and no starred games situation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 10, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
That's right, it isn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 10, 2013, 04:12:56 PM
Genuinely who cares, get the games played county men or no, we cant have a situation where 30plus guys are not involved in games because of 2-3-4 county men. That is totally unsustainable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 10, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
Jesus btdtgtt youre a whinging hoor.

How can anyone from a Div1 club know what will work in lower divisions? If a motion is put forward specific to Div1, other delegates with knowledge of lower leagues could have asked that the motion was amended to consider the lower leagues if they themselves thought it would benefit them.

FFS ...finding ulterior motives where there are none.

I will take that point. Fair enough if you wanna argue that they'd isn't want to impose the system on other leagues. Eh maybe!
And I also agree that I am a whinging hoor - but not a patch on the wife!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 10, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
i think btdtgtt should maybe go and ask someone who was there last night or whoever proposed the motion before making assumptions

i know very little about it but afaik it is something to do with helping getting more games played without county players - hence mainly affecting Div 1.

Club teams wont have their county players right up to at least July.

As i said im not sure so i am open to correction.  :-\

I'm not against that motive - but personally (this applies to MR2 post also re star games) I have said before - they are club players first and last - on loan to the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 10, 2013, 04:12:56 PM
Genuinely who cares, get the games played county men or no, we cant have a situation where 30plus guys are not involved in games because of 2-3-4 county men. That is totally unsustainable.

Then get them played - but with county contingent. I agree too many held to ransom for the few with county and it's a system which has never worked!

One last attempt at clarifying this:

I am not against this restructure - not at all. I hope it works! And as I said in my very first line I see the merits.

The only points I made were;
1) the motive is a selfish one rather than an all county concern (only my opinion I don't say that's fact - hey that's what the board is about)
2) it's an odds with antrims position re league theory at national level.

That all I'm saying! It's all I ever really said!

I think it'll make for some great games and I hope it works!
Ok!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2013, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 10, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
i think btdtgtt should maybe go and ask someone who was there last night or whoever proposed the motion before making assumptions

i know very little about it but afaik it is something to do with helping getting more games played without county players - hence mainly affecting Div 1.

Club teams wont have their county players right up to at least July.

As i said im not sure so i am open to correction.  :-\

I'm not against that motive - but personally (this applies to MR2 post also re star games) I have said before - they are club players first and last - on loan to the county.
agreed.   if they would let all players play club, it would make for a better league.   suits us anyway.  Because, Are best hurler won't get asked to the county.  Better to be "happy" than start the best 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2013, 05:18:46 PM
Playing league games without county players takes the heat out of them completely. That's historically what happened when the starred system was in place. Standards and enthusiasm dropped. Spectators voted with their feet even for big match ups and the players themselves knew the games we're mere challenge games

Too many intercounty weekends and the local leagues have to suffer.   

Is there a new way of thinking about this?...I dunno? I don't want to see our best players killed, but I wouldnt mind seeing if they're our best players by representing their clubs with distinction the odd time. I'll wait to see the details on just how often games will be fixed without county players first before going off on one like btgttt  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 10, 2013, 05:22:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
I will take that point. Fair enough if you wanna argue that they'd isn't want to impose the system on other leagues. Eh maybe!
And I also agree that I am a whinging hoor - but not a patch on the wife!

You're continually trying to find reasons to suggest NA hurling men have it in for our chip eating brethern. Nothing could be further from the truth.

....I disagree with you about about your missus.....lovely girl  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 05:47:23 PM
Very good skull! I was wondering where she was disappearing to!

I agree fully on your points re club hurling - in general the GAA barely recognizes clubs now. It's all about big days out at Croker. This is evidenced by the relegation of important club games to the depths of winter. The huge majority of Gaels in Antrim and Ireland are club men - it deserves more.

I fear the GAA will repeat the mistakes of rugby and concentrate too much on too few at the expense of the game on the ground in favour of a shiny media product.

I didn't go off on one tho! My comments were mis-construed by that MR2 fella. He's a disgrace - he nearly brought down the county a few months ago commenting on games whilst a ref!  :o

And by the way - I also said that NA were looking after themselves - that's not quite the same as having it in for us mc cooeys. It's predictable clubs will do what they feel best for them. In the city we place our chips on both shoulders!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
Can someone post the div 1 teams list for next season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St. John's
Ballycran
Ballygalget
Portaferry (oisins relegated official minder?)
St Galls
Sarsfields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 07:15:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St. John's
Ballycran
Ballygalget
Portaferry (oisins relegated official minder?)
St Galls
Sarsfields

Bottom five???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

It doesn't say about not playing without county players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 10, 2013, 07:22:26 PM
Not for me - one of the down teams in place of St. John's. Then that'll be the split - in no particular order other than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

It doesn't say about not playing without county players
For the person asking earlier it was the Dall proposed the motion.

I think it is a good proposition especially for that middle tier as there is no real room for coasting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?

eh?

Is there league playoff now??

I thought it was  just a straight 9 game first phase and then split where you'd get another 4 games against the other teams in your section. The top team in the top section wins the league.
The bottom two teams in the bottom section get relegated??

Is it more complicated than that?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?

eh?

Is there league playoff now??

I thought it was  just a straight 9 game first phase and then split where you'd get another 4 games against the other teams in your section. The top team in the top section wins the league.
The bottom two teams in the bottom section get relegated??

Is it more complicated than that?

I thought this was the motion that was passed, was there an amendment to it?

Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:59:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?

eh?

Is there league playoff now??

I thought it was  just a straight 9 game first phase and then split where you'd get another 4 games against the other teams in your section. The top team in the top section wins the league.
The bottom two teams in the bottom section get relegated??

Is it more complicated than that?

I thought this was the motion that was passed, was there an amendment to it?

Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

Well you were the one rabbiting on about 9th playing 6th and all that, you're the one who confused me..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:59:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?

eh?

Is there league playoff now??

I thought it was  just a straight 9 game first phase and then split where you'd get another 4 games against the other teams in your section. The top team in the top section wins the league.
The bottom two teams in the bottom section get relegated??

Is it more complicated than that?

I thought this was the motion that was passed, was there an amendment to it?

Motion 3
That the ACHL Div 1 be played as follows;

Div 1 to consist of 10 teams
Everyone plays each other once.
After all nine games are played (or the stipulated cut off date is reached) the league splits into two sections, with top 5 teams playing off for the league title and bottom 5 teams playing off against relegation.

The reserve league would follow the above format.

Teams who play at home in the first phase (games 1 to 9) will travel to the opposition venue if paired together in phase 2

Well you were the one rabbiting on about 9th playing 6th and all that, you're the one who confused me..

Too early!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 09:31:15 AM
Re the new league proposals for Div 1.

The reason my club decided on putting this proposal in is for the following reasons:

Some teams struggled to play all 18 league matches last season.

With county players away from mid April to mid July, it means teams can play on without county players and know when the 2nd phase kicks in they will have their county players on board.

All games will mean something instead of some league games being boring and mediocre

Finally, it should improve div 1 in general, as the first 9 games will dictate we're ull be after the split so if u wanna be in top 5 you should be busting a gut and be prepared to mix with the top boys!!

Also, when talking to the guy who tabled the motion from my club he didn't once mention a north antrim elite, his main concern was the improvement of hurling in div 1, and he didn't consider div 2 - 4 as it has no concern to him as his team does not play in them leagues!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 09:44:04 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 09:31:15 AM
Re the new league proposals for Div 1.

The reason my club decided on putting this proposal in is for the following reasons:

Some teams struggled to play all 18 league matches last season.

With county players away from mid April to mid July, it means teams can play on without county players and know when the 2nd phase kicks in they will have their county players on board.

All games will mean something instead of some league games being boring and mediocre

Finally, it should improve div 1 in general, as the first 9 games will dictate we're ull be after the split so if u wanna be in top 5 you should be busting a gut and be prepared to mix with the top boys!!

Also, when talking to the guy who tabled the motion from my club he didn't once mention a north antrim elite, his main concern was the improvement of hurling in div 1, and he didn't consider div 2 - 4 as it has no concern to him as his team does not play in them leagues!!

That's fair enough as I'm sure these motions were passed around all the clubs before the meeting, which meant that they had a chance to amend it for their own clubs in the lower leagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2013, 10:23:24 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 09:31:15 AM
Re the new league proposals for Div 1.

The reason my club decided on putting this proposal in is for the following reasons:

Some teams struggled to play all 18 league matches last season.

With county players away from mid April to mid July, it means teams can play on without county players and know when the 2nd phase kicks in they will have their county players on board.
Again, they are club players and should never miss a club game - granted thats not always the reality - but making this the case should be the real priority.

All games will mean something instead of some league games being boring and mediocre
Hopefully! Not guaranteed. In reality - every game does mean something! If teams choose not to approach it like that is a different matter.

Finally, it should improve div 1 in general, as the first 9 games will dictate we're ull be after the split so if u wanna be in top 5 you should be busting a gut and be prepared to mix with the top boys!!
This kind of contradicts your point about playing without county players.

Also, when talking to the guy who tabled the motion from my club he didn't once mention a north antrim elite, his main concern was the improvement of hurling in div 1, and he didn't consider div 2 - 4 as it has no concern to him as his team does not play in them leagues!!
That was the point I made - Div 2-4 are of no concern to say Cushendall - but they are of concern to the county as a whole. Equally if Div2-4 are of no concern to Cushendall (or others) the they saw fit not to adjust them? Then why are football only clubs fit to vote on hurling structures which affect them even less!

Again - don't take it from my points here that I am against these specific proposals.
I have long posted on this board the need to make leagues more meaningful and I hope this is successful at doing that. I actually suggested the league be linked to championship. So I'm not against change and not overtly against this move either.

I'm just making some points regarding the general issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
I stand by what I said the league will improve - ruairi og will probably be missing 6 starters from our strongest team if county players aren't there for league games. We have put a lot of work in at underage and our reserves were unbeaten last year so it gives our younger senior panelists a chance to stake a claim on the team and get a consistent run of games in a competitive setting of Div 1.

this will lead to the standard improving of our squad (hopefully) and give our manager plenty of headaches come the business end of the season. If all clubs approach it the same way it can only improve each squad and then this will knock on to the league and then may have a knock on to the county set up.

I say this because some players can maybe 'hide' when the county men are playing in any club team as they are usually the leaders of the team, no other graded players will need to step up and lead from the front if no county players are present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
I stand by what I said the league will improve - ruairi og will probably be missing 6 starters from our strongest team if county players aren't there for league games. We have put a lot of work in at underage and our reserves were unbeaten last year so it gives our younger senior panelists a chance to stake a claim on the team and get a consistent run of games in a competitive setting of Div 1.

this will lead to the standard improving of our squad (hopefully) and give our manager plenty of headaches come the business end of the season. If all clubs approach it the same way it can only improve each squad and then this will knock on to the league and then may have a knock on to the county set up.

I say this because some players can maybe 'hide' when the county men are playing in any club team as they are usually the leaders of the team, no other graded players will need to step up and lead from the front if no county players are present.

Has it been stated that the county players won't be involved? I didn't see that in the motion, If hurling fixtures are to be fixed they will be fixed for a day the county hurling team isn't playing otherwise teams that have players on the team or squad in the lower leagues will be at a serious disadvantage don't you think?

Again not your problem and as you said a great reserve team to back up the senior team unless your reserves are due to play that day also and so it becomes a bit of a joke for the reserve team....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o

Is this a team of the year of Antrim club players?

Just on that - what are Loughgiel up to in terms of preparations?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Club all stars - antrim Div 1 Hurling

DD Quinn

Ding Gillan
Neil McGarry
Martin Burke

Odhran McFadden
Conor McKinley
Ryan McCambridge

Mark McFadden
Eoghan Campbell

Paul Shiels
Conor Carson
Eddie McCloskey

Benny McCarry
Joey Scullion
Liam Watson

This is my opinion please don't kill me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
That was a pretty quick response by your fellow club mate  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
Yes.  Antrim club hurling team of year.  Lol.  Could you not squeeze another couple of shamrocks in there ;D    no mc manus or mc auley? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o

Simples- If we based it on the final I'd say Loughgiels first 15 as they won every battle, but over the season there are a few lads that could make that team from the other clubs, PJ O'Connell played for Gaels this year and has been one of the best players in all I the games I've been involved with, he'd be very competent at senior level and will be given that chance in senior championship next year.


Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
That was a pretty quick response by your fellow club mate  ::)

Give me you're 15 NAG1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o

Simples- If we based it on the final I'd say Loughgiels first 15 as they won every battle, but over the season there are a few lads that could make that team from the other clubs, PJ O'Connell played for Gaels this year and has been one of the best players in all I the games I've been involved with, he'd be very competent at senior level and will be given that chance in senior championship next year.


Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
That was a pretty quick response by your fellow club mate  ::)

Give me you're 15 NAG1

Unless everyone saw every league game then it would impossible to pick a proper 15 from the League. You are also forgetting Paul Braniff, who turned in a number of serious displays this year, as did C Johnston for Naomh Eoin, not to mention A Graffin.

Impossible task I'm afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o

Simples- If we based it on the final I'd say Loughgiels first 15 as they won every battle, but over the season there are a few lads that could make that team from the other clubs, PJ O'Connell played for Gaels this year and has been one of the best players in all I the games I've been involved with, he'd be very competent at senior level and will be given that chance in senior championship next year.


Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
That was a pretty quick response by your fellow club mate  ::)

Give me you're 15 NAG1

Unless everyone saw every league game then it would impossible to pick a proper 15 from the League. You are also forgetting Paul Braniff, who turned in a number of serious displays this year, as did C Johnston for Naomh Eoin, not to mention A Graffin.

Impossible task I'm afraid.

It's a hard ask and most of these things are based on Championship matches when a lot of people will view these games, as neutrals.

Graffin has been good every year, young Johnty has been good to. Yeah hard to pick and even harder if you haven't seen all the games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
Give it a go well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Club all star thing.  Lets here the picks.   bound to be a row involved here :o

Simples- If we based it on the final I'd say Loughgiels first 15 as they won every battle, but over the season there are a few lads that could make that team from the other clubs, PJ O'Connell played for Gaels this year and has been one of the best players in all I the games I've been involved with, he'd be very competent at senior level and will be given that chance in senior championship next year.


Quote from: NAG1 on December 11, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
That was a pretty quick response by your fellow club mate  ::)

Give me you're 15 NAG1

Unless everyone saw every league game then it would impossible to pick a proper 15 from the League. You are also forgetting Paul Braniff, who turned in a number of serious displays this year, as did C Johnston for Naomh Eoin, not to mention A Graffin.

Impossible task I'm afraid.

Add senseless to that as it's of no advantage and just divisive.

Who saw all the games to make judgements??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 11, 2013, 05:36:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
Yes.  Antrim club hurling team of year.  Lol.  Could you not squeeze another couple of shamrocks in there ;D    no mc manus or mc auley?
SG - a meaningless and subjective exercise.  Have to agree though,  a few more shamrocks players would/should be in the mix  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 11, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on December 11, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Club all stars - antrim Div 1 Hurling

DD Quinn

Ding Gillan
Neil McGarry
Martin Burke

Odhran McFadden
Conor McKinley
Ryan McCambridge

Mark McFadden
Eoghan Campbell

Paul Shiels
Conor Carson
Eddie McCloskey

Benny McCarry
Joey Scullion
Liam Watson

This is my opinion please don't kill me
I really think LW and JS are more menacing on the 3/4 line.  Just don't give out your address or telephone number, best placed maintaining your anonymity, some vindictive individuals here by all accounts! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 11, 2013, 06:32:51 PM
PO'C sure to be shafted now :o

Antrim secretary Frankie Quinn has launched a scathing attack on the Ulster Council over its handling of the province's SHC final.

The Antrim-Down decider has been deferred until the New Year after the Council failed to find a suitable date for it in its 2013 calendar. It was originally due to be played on July 7, but was pushed back a week after the Down-Derry semi-final went to a replay.

However, Down deemed the new date unsuitable for them as their players had scheduled holidays for the end of the championship season with some unavailable due to work and family commitments. They had also sought a break from action after coming off a punishing nine-match schedule between Christy Ring Cup and Ulster championship fixtures.

The final was then re-fixed for November 3, but was postponed once again.

"Having offered to play the game on July 13 or 20, we received no reply. By rule we are required to submit our county championship programme to the provincial council early in the year and there are penalties for counties who deviate from their schedule," an angry Quinn said in his report to last night's annual convention.

"The next we heard was the Ulster final was fixed for early November in a time period in which rule prevents county players from training or playing games. At all times Antrim were committed to playing this game but I must say that it has been handled in a shambolic fashion."


I'm amazed, biting the hand that feeds you -  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
My apologies.   am not the one to start this award.   as its taking place and I know.  No1 was at all games.   maybe a few of use would have opinions on the starting 15.    again.  Sorry for being so meaningless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 11, 2013, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 11, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2013, 08:45:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2013, 10:14:11 PM
So in theory you could finish 5th and win the league or finish last and still stay up?

Finish 5th ??
I think he means at the cut off point where it splits in 2.

I'm easily confused but top five which is 10th, 9th, 8th, 7th, 6th the bottom 4 here will play off to meet the top team in final? Has that been worked out yet? 9th plays 6th, 8th plays 7th?

eh?

Is there league playoff now??

I thought it was  just a straight 9 game first phase and then split where you'd get another 4 games against the other teams in your section. The top team in the top section wins the league.
The bottom two teams in the bottom section get relegated??

Is it more complicated than that?

????? Teams play each other once (9 games) then splits into to sections of 5, top 5 will play for league title and bottom 5 will be in a relegation battle with 2 going down.  the teams play the other 4 teams in their section again once (now total of 13 games) points are NOT reset to zero after the first 9 games. No playoffs!!  Makes it easier for the county to arrange club games around the new Leinster championship. Also makes all the games in the new division 1 more competitive and meaningful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 11, 2013, 11:08:03 PM
With less games would it be possible to finish the leagues before championship starts?
And therefore use league positions as seeding to determine the championship ties?
Just a suggestion - every game championship in a way - ultra competitive throughout the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2013, 11:38:23 PM
I know it doesn't mean a lot but it's a plug on my part, Jackson McGreevey is up for a award Dual Player of the year

He Captained the Under 21 hurling team this year and has played for the seniors a few times also this year he also played right half back for the our senior footballers in the county final (played well also). If you wish to vote it's in the link below (feel like TF now)

http://gaeliclife.com/club-all-stars-dual-player-of-the-year/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2013, 08:58:41 AM
the new div 1 league set up looks interesting. split into two sections after each has played the others once.

18 games last year was too many imo, this will hopefully make it more competitive.

i miss hurling already :( hurry back new season! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 13, 2013, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2013, 08:58:41 AM
the new div 1 league set up looks interesting. split into two sections after each has played the others once.

18 games last year was too many imo, this will hopefully make it more competitive.

i miss hurling already :( hurry back new season! lol

I presume you're not still playing then as I fuckin hate playing at this time of year until the end of March at least..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 13, 2013, 07:51:24 PM
Try 3rd Level hurling. Training in the snow at Upper Malone was always erm wonderful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 14, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
Notice from the County secretary

All members of the 1989 Antrim Senior Hurling panel are asked to send an email (asap) to
secretary.antrim@gaa.ie
2014 will be the 25th Anniversary of the team reaching the All Ireland Hurling Final

He wants to check that you all paid for your suits and left your tracks suits back??????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 12:18:01 AM
Some of you boys need to harden up. Sure it's only December.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 15, 2013, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 12:18:01 AM
Some of you boys need to harden up. Sure it's only December.  ;)
Seen the Loughgiel lads training in the Falls Park this morning whilst walking the dog Seamroga.  Sure looking in great shape and very determined :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: RefForFee on December 15, 2013, 05:17:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 12:18:01 AM
Some of you boys need to harden up. Sure it's only December.  ;)
Seen the Loughgiel lads training in the Falls Park this morning whilst walking the dog Seamroga.  Sure looking in great shape and very determined :)
They want it more than ever ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
4/7 Is a great price for the semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
4/7 Is a great price for the semi final
only if you gamble.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
4/7 Is a great price for the semi final
only if you gamble.  ;)

Lifes a gamble if you can afford it have a go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 15, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 15, 2013, 05:22:10 PM
4/7 Is a great price for the semi final
only if you gamble.  ;)

Lifes a gamble if you can afford it have a go
mr toal or Eastwood will never get a pound of my money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
Unless am completely of the mark.   wasn't that two St johns men playing for fullen Gaels yesterday   maskey and knocker.  Wondered where those two lads had gone.   very talented hurlers. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
Unless am completely of the mark.   wasn't that two St johns men playing for fullen Gaels yesterday   maskey and knocker.  Wondered where those two lads had gone.   very talented hurlers.

One was alright hadn't hurled against the other, though heard good things about him. Was that win expected?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
Think bookie had them favorites.   knocker was serious hurler.  Maskey wasn't as good.  But could have hurled.  Both hurled on a very talented St johns minor and U21 teams.   John mead, jimmy peoples   another big man Rooney.  None of them anywhere to be seen now.  Which is a pity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2013, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
Think bookie had them favorites.   knocker was serious hurler.  Maskey wasn't as good.  But could have hurled.  Both hurled on a very talented St johns minor and U21 teams.   John mead, jimmy peoples   another big man Rooney.  None of them anywhere to be seen now.  Which is a pity

There is lies the problem, also not knocking the lads and congrats on their win, but IMHO you cannot be classed a serious hurler from underage alone. Yes they maybe had the potential to go and be good club hurlers but to me that was the extent of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2013, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 16, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
Was Jim Peoples not their senior hurling captain this year?

Yeah think you could be right, I was referring to the two lads in the original post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:19:25 PM
Both were major players for a super talented minor team that beat us at minor.  A very good loughgiel team also.  Which now makes up over half our senior team.  So. Yes imo.  They were serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2013, 02:24:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:19:25 PM
Both were major players for a super talented minor team that beat us at minor.  A very good loughgiel team also.  Which now makes up over half our senior team.  So. Yes imo.  They were serious.

Serious minors yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:32:04 PM
Your a serious c**k.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:36:05 PM
Liam knocker.  The one I called a serious hurler.  Also made a few appearances for our super happy seniors back before he left.  At a young age, very talented hurler.  Hard as nails also.  Would be a great asset to johnnies or indeed Antrim if he returned.  Are these lads gone due to work. Or what. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:32:04 PM
Your a serious c**k.   :o

;) Good lad, you make a sweeping statement on a discussion board, I put my opinion on the subject and that's your come back.

Two lads that played little or no senior hurling here. To me to be a serious hurler that would be a prerequisite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
Both played as much senior hurling as say.   Ryan mc Cambridge or a number of your young up and coming hurlers.    doesn't take away from the fact that there extremely talented,  Or serious hurlers.   your being thick now. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2013, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
Both played as much senior hurling as say.   Ryan mc Cambridge or a number of your young up and coming hurlers.    doesn't take away from the fact that there extremely talented,  Or serious hurlers.   your being thick now.

Not going to drag this out any further you obviously have a different view on what a serious hurler is, I made the distinction of a potentially good / 'talented' minor and serious senior hurler.

We all could name lots of 'talented' underage hurlers for one reason or another never made that step up to being a regular senior hurler.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 16, 2013, 05:15:49 PM
I fail to comprehend how we can refer to anyone hurler as a 'Serious Hurler' until they play at the top level and represent heir respective counties, should that be at Minor, U21 and Senior. Regrettably, the exiles tend not to make the standard, re-locate and play at a lower level, well below the standard they would play at home.  Then of course we have some 'Serious Hurlers' who have chosen not to play for their county due to all sorts reasons, which is understandable.  In fact, we have quite a number of 'Serious Hurlers' who would grace any county team in the land, but for all sorts of sinister and unconducive reasons, have opted out of playing.  Cant blame some of them though, not of their doing!  ;)  Sambo & son, McManus etc. could well elaborate on this, I doubt if they will though, given it's sensitivity!  ???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:17:28 PM
We obviously do.  Both lads are still hurling.  Just not around home,  so I don't think they find themselves in the "couldn't step up" bracket.   I was trying to put across that they were very talented hurlers, minor and also any time I came across them at U21 or senior. And are a miss to St Johns and possibly knocker being a miss to Antrim.   out of bed on the wrong side nag?  Or just can't agree with a loughgiel man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on December 16, 2013, 05:20:59 PM
Antrim beat Dublin in a challenge at the weekend? Is that right? Anyone at it?

Any word on how training is going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Wasn't at it. Dont even no the Antrim line up.  But I believe Dublin had decent team out.  1 point victory.  Nice win pre season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 16, 2013, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Wasn't at it. Dont even no the Antrim line up.  But I believe Dublin had decent team out.  1 point victory.  Nice win pre season.
0-18 to 2-11 Antrim win.  And they(DUBLIN) do have some 'Serious Hurlers'.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 06:32:48 PM
 lol.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 16, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Anyone know what Antrim's team was yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 16, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 16, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
Anyone know what Antrim's team was yesterday?
C Heyden CMcKinley E Campbell MBradley AGraffin N McAuley P Shiels BMcFall J McGreevy PjO'Connell C Carson NMcKenna D McKernan N McManus D Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 16, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
What club is the goalkeeper from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Flutehook on December 16, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Wasn't at it. Dont even no the Antrim line up.  But I believe Dublin had decent team out.  1 point victory.  Nice win pre season.

Dublin's line up was a mix of last season's extended panel and some young lads who did well in County SHC. Team (as best as I could discern); S Chester (Craobh Chiaráin), S Timlin (Cuala), C O'Callaghan (Cuala), J Dougan (Crokes), M McCaffrey* (Lucan), P Schutte (Cuala), C Crummy (Lucan), K Byrne (Crumlin), M Quilty (Na Fianna), R Mahon (Craobh), B Connolly (Cuala), S Ryan (Crumlin), M Schutte (Cuala), S McGrath (Crokes), P Winters (St Brigids).

* Matthew is younger brother of Johnny 

Antrim were very tidy and worked a possession and support game well, especially into the strong wind that they played against in the first half, it was like watching Davy's Clare at times!  They threw over some nice points as well and the two wing backs, Shorty in particular, dominated their immediate opponents. Our rookie CHF had a good first half on McAuley but faded after that. Antrim tried to leave McManus one-on-one but Cian O'Callaghan (2011 Minor) coped admirably most of the time. In the second half McManus was left in FF but stuggled with the 100 mph balls coming in towards him with the wind; he was then moved out to CHF with about 10-15 mins left and imposed himself on the game from there with some nice passes and long range points.

We got two goals in second half from M Schutte and D Tracey (second half sub) that were worryingly similar from an Antrim point of view in that they involved lone Dubs easily running/bursting through 3 or 4 defenders and shooting unchallenged. A good work out for both teams.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 16, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Goalie just announced college all star from cushendall if i'm right??

Who's bradley? I think i know the rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 16, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Flutehook on December 16, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Wasn't at it. Dont even no the Antrim line up.  But I believe Dublin had decent team out.  1 point victory.  Nice win pre season.

Dublin's line up was a mix of last season's extended panel and some young lads who did well in County SHC. Team (as best as I could discern); S Chester (Craobh Chiaráin), S Timlin (Cuala), C O'Callaghan (Cuala), J Dougan (Crokes), M McCaffrey* (Lucan), P Schutte (Cuala), C Crummy (Lucan), K Byrne (Crumlin), M Quilty (Na Fianna), R Mahon (Craobh), B Connolly (Cuala), S Ryan (Crumlin), M Schutte (Cuala), S McGrath (Crokes), P Winters (St Brigids).

* Matthew is younger brother of Johnny 

Antrim were very tidy and worked a possession and support game well, especially into the strong wind that they played against in the first half, it was like watching Davy's Clare at times!  They threw over some nice points as well and the two wing backs, Shorty in particular, dominated their immediate opponents. Our rookie CHF had a good first half on McAuley but faded after that. Antrim tried to leave McManus one-on-one but Cian O'Callaghan (2011 Minor) coped admirably most of the time. In the second half McManus was left in FF but stuggled with the 100 mph balls coming in towards him with the wind; he was then moved out to CHF with about 10-15 mins left and imposed himself on the game from there with some nice passes and long range points.

We got two goals in second half from M Schutte and D Tracey (second half sub) that were worryingly similar from an Antrim point of view in that they involved lone Dubs easily running/bursting through 3 or 4 defenders and shooting unchallenged. A good work out for both teams.




Thanks for the report,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 16, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 16, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Flutehook on December 16, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Wasn't at it. Dont even no the Antrim line up.  But I believe Dublin had decent team out.  1 point victory.  Nice win pre season.

Dublin's line up was a mix of last season's extended panel and some young lads who did well in County SHC. Team (as best as I could discern); S Chester (Craobh Chiaráin), S Timlin (Cuala), C O'Callaghan (Cuala), J Dougan (Crokes), M McCaffrey* (Lucan), P Schutte (Cuala), C Crummy (Lucan), K Byrne (Crumlin), M Quilty (Na Fianna), R Mahon (Craobh), B Connolly (Cuala), S Ryan (Crumlin), M Schutte (Cuala), S McGrath (Crokes), P Winters (St Brigids).

* Matthew is younger brother of Johnny 

Antrim were very tidy and worked a possession and support game well, especially into the strong wind that they played against in the first half, it was like watching Davy's Clare at times!  They threw over some nice points as well and the two wing backs, Shorty in particular, dominated their immediate opponents. Our rookie CHF had a good first half on McAuley but faded after that. Antrim tried to leave McManus one-on-one but Cian O'Callaghan (2011 Minor) coped admirably most of the time. In the second half McManus was left in FF but stuggled with the 100 mph balls coming in towards him with the wind; he was then moved out to CHF with about 10-15 mins left and imposed himself on the game from there with some nice passes and long range points.

We got two goals in second half from M Schutte and D Tracey (second half sub) that were worryingly similar from an Antrim point of view in that they involved lone Dubs easily running/bursting through 3 or 4 defenders and shooting unchallenged. A good work out for both teams.




Thanks for the report,
Even more worrying, we did not put any in the onion bag, we need a few 'Serious Hurlers' to do that  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 17, 2013, 08:38:48 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 05:17:28 PM
We obviously do.  Both lads are still hurling.  Just not around home,  so I don't think they find themselves in the "couldn't step up" bracket.   I was trying to put across that they were very talented hurlers, minor and also any time I came across them at U21 or senior. And are a miss to St Johns and possibly knocker being a miss to Antrim.   out of bed on the wrong side nag?  Or just can't agree with a loughgiel man.

No nothing of the sort, just took a bit of exception to your description, as it is different to mine, differing opinions. I know both players well having watched them quite a bit and dont want to run them down, but both would have been decent clubs hurlers and thats it. Fanciful in the extreme to think either was county standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 17, 2013, 09:47:59 AM
In fairness I dont think either of those hurlers would consider themselves to be anywhere near county standard.

If they came home right now both would have a bit of work to do to regain their place on the Johnnies senior teams.

As I've said before - all Belfast clubs know only too well that even a superstar minor may never make senior.

And that's where they're counted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 17, 2013, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
Both played as much senior hurling as say.   Ryan mc Cambridge or a number of your young up and coming hurlers.    doesn't take away from the fact that there extremely talented,  Or serious hurlers.   your being thick now.
so your lads are average until they prove different.  My OPINION on Liam knocker still stands the same   wasn't looking shot over it.  What Nag says goes  ;D  sorry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 17, 2013, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 17, 2013, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
Both played as much senior hurling as say.   Ryan mc Cambridge or a number of your young up and coming hurlers.    doesn't take away from the fact that there extremely talented,  Or serious hurlers.   your being thick now.
so your lads are average until they prove different.  My OPINION on Liam knocker still stands the same   wasn't looking shot over it.  What Nag says goes  ;D  sorry

SG dead on, it is a discussion board and you are welcome to you opinions.

I stated mine and that is it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 17, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
Ok.   so were friends :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 17, 2013, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 17, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
Ok.   so were friends :D

I fail to see in my post where I stated that  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 19, 2013, 07:57:20 PM
I seethe elite within the gaa are steamrolling ahead with their plans to cause havoc in the centre of west belfast to build their new concert venue. Absolute joke. They and the so called politicians should be ashamed of themselves .

What would durkan or yer woman do if we drove past their house 16 hours a day for the next two years in 40ft dumper trucks trailing dirt and mud all over the shop. then when we had finished we close off their roads a couple of weekends a month deny them access and throw plastic beer glasses about while pissing in their front garden(normal Saturday nite in west).

The ground needs updated and redeveloped but they way they have went about it is disrespectful, and I'm sure they wouldn't do it in their own backyard. I heard they have already purchased 4 houses behind the ground between it and motorway. someone or more than just someone is getting their pockets lined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 19, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on December 19, 2013, 07:57:20 PM
I seethe elite within the gaa are steamrolling ahead with their plans to cause havoc in the centre of west belfast to build their new concert venue. Absolute joke. They and the so called politicians should be ashamed of themselves .

What would durkan or yer woman do if we drove past their house 16 hours a day for the next two years in 40ft dumper trucks trailing dirt and mud all over the shop. then when we had finished we close off their roads a couple of weekends a month deny them access and throw plastic beer glasses about while pissing in their front garden(normal Saturday nite in west).

The ground needs updated and redeveloped but they way they have went about it is disrespectful, and I'm sure they wouldn't do it in their own backyard. I heard they have already purchased 4 houses behind the ground between it and motorway. someone or more than just someone is getting their pockets lined.
The Shinners, The church,  Pronsias & Clint bought some of the houses. Going to coin it big time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 20, 2013, 09:58:14 AM
For me the Casement redevelopment is a simple one.

Yes, the ground needs redeveloped but what they have proposed is very OTT and at a massive expense. Can you imagine it on county final day, 38000 seats and maybe 5000 people at it. Look at what Ulster Rugby have done (with much less cash) to Ravenhill. I am very envious of the setup they now have and that would have been ideal for what this county and Ulster need. 15 -18K seats, simple stadium structure and bit of terracing out the front. Not many people would have been put out by it I don't think (with regard to stadium height etc). Who do we think we are, a premiership soccer team FFS!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 20, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
Exactly....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 20, 2013, 10:19:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 20, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
Exactly....
Whats with all these negative words? Think of all the jobs the Shinners will be bringing into the west  ;) At least Ulster Council will be running the show. The pot of gold will be in safe hands at least. Remember the last upgrade  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 21, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 20, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Yes, so the members of Antrim GAA have just had their biggest asset removed from their possession at a cost of £0.00. A shrewd bit of business there.

Murray can work his Dunsilly levy up his bangle.
Impetuous HS, impetuous, he is a big lad and a McD's man  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 21, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
I would say the new Casement will see as many Antrim Club games as Windsor Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2013, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 21, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
I would say the new Casement will see as many Antrim Club games as Windsor Park.
Yeah, I've made that point many times. Bringing an Ulster Football Final and an All Ireland qualifier to Casement does little for the promotion of GAA in Belfast when you simultaneously move dozens of club games away from Casement.

I will go further.....we will be lucky to get our county league games back to Casement. Attendances less than 5000 will be of no use whatsoever to the brand spanking new Casement Park.

County semi finals and finals will be played at Casement, they have to be. It's a non runner if the county sell it and not play the games they normally do. All the other grounds do it in other counties why won't Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
Finding it very difficult to disagree with a single word HS is saying here.

A vision a huge white elephant getting a token gesture of a few "big" games in the first years. After that it'll be the best surface in Ireland - because it'll be completely unused.

Other than for nice PR photographs for the self appointed ulster council elite. 

Murray and the rest will no doubt have used their sacrifice of our casement to further their own GAA officialdom careers.

I can't help but laugh and ulster council saying casement shows their commitment to GAA in Antrim - really? Will any juvenile or schools games ever be held there? I mean the ulster hurling final this year shows what they care about Antrim!

Even those supporting the development can't possibly believe the stadium is the right size?

The whole thing is people blinded by the shiny new stadium and not seeing the reality.
Sadly a symptom of the modern GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2013, 11:00:25 PM
Clubs won't want to play in it. The old casement was bad enough for atmosphere. This monstrosity will kill it completely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2013, 11:36:56 PM
And if I'm not mistaken that "private company" is currently involved in legal action against GAA members over the handball club at croke park.

The modern GAA lads. All the warning signs are there.
Antrim GAA and Belfast GAA and west Belfast - be afraid, be very afraid!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed
What's the real problem?
jealousy. It will not go away. No matter how much people try.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 21, 2013, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed
What's the real problem?
jealousy. It will not go away. No matter how much people try.

Of Loughgiel take it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:52:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 21, 2013, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed
What's the real problem?
jealousy. It will not go away. No matter how much people try.

Of Loughgiel take it?
of any team who wins.

Instead of asking how it's done ,it's 100%  against us.

How about Kevin Ryan askin a few boys about loughgiel about hurling?


What are the chances?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 22, 2013, 12:04:11 AM
Take a look at the last team to represent Antrim at hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
Can we just confirm SIE you are on a different tangent to the casement conversation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 22, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
Can we just confirm SIE you are on a different tangent to the casement conversation?
yes. But, believe it or not, this is the Antrim hurling thread.

Not the mccooey self pity thread   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 12:14:14 AM
The casement issue very much effects the whole county not just Belfast.

You have to let that thread run even if you don't like it! Or else you will be getting accused like poor MR2!

As for the loughgiel / county relationship?
Have you something concrete to tell us or are you wandering a bit?
Personally (if this is what you are getting at) I think a certain ruairi og has just got far too much sway and prominence over Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 22, 2013, 12:15:58 AM
I believe there is a thread for you to vent your spleen in another forum.

Keep it there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 12:22:59 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 22, 2013, 12:15:58 AM
I believe there is a thread for you to vent your spleen in another forum.

Keep it there.

HS raised an issue - a few of us replied. U are sounding like u have been violated!

Now what's on your mind or are you having a wee moment?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2013, 04:08:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed
What's the real problem?
jealousy. It will not go away. No matter how much people try.

What are you on about? Loughgiel looking for things to give them reasons to win? FFS lad take a redner. If Loughgiel don't win it this year it will be bad craic, they are by far the best team left in the competition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
I'm not saying they're not the best team MR2 but there's no shame in being beaten by say portumna.
I wouldn't say that would be "bad craic".

Na piarasaigh are back from previous defeat at this stage - must be something there too.

Let's hope loughgiel bring a third title home though - even if they'd prefer we all hated them?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2013, 07:21:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 07:06:33 PM
I'm not saying they're not the best team MR2 but there's no shame in being beaten by say portumna.
I wouldn't say that would be "bad craic".

Na piarasaigh are back from previous defeat at this stage - must be something there too.

Let's hope loughgiel bring a third title home though - even if they'd prefer we all hated them?!

If you are agreeing with me that they are the best team left in the competition what's all that other crap?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
I didn't agree with you.

They might be the best team - march17 will decide that.
But if they don't win it I would be more inclined to say "hard luck" than "bad craic" as u did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2013, 07:57:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
I didn't agree with you.

They might be the best team - march17 will decide that.
But if they don't win it I would be more inclined to say "hard luck" than "bad craic" as u did.

They are the best team left in the competition having won it last out of the 4 teams left, they have a better team than the one that won it last, of that I've no doubt. So based on that I'd say (IMO) they are the favs. If you say to a loughgiel lad hard luck after the final he'll be well pissed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
Don't think loughgiel will rely on that formula!

And if you tell their lads "that's bad craic" after a loss i'd say start running!

Like I say - we'll know on 17march the best team.

Hopefully it's still ok to support loughgiel then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2013, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
Don't think loughgiel will rely on that formula!

And if you tell their lads "that's bad craic" after a loss i'd say start running!

Like I say - we'll know on 17march the best team.

Hopefully it's still ok to support loughgiel then!

I'll try and not be jealous beforehand ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 22, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
What on earth was SIE's wee outburst about? Like a wee spoilt child everyone is ignoring. Or else blocked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 22, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
What on earth was SIE's wee outburst about? Like a wee spoilt child everyone is ignoring. Or else blocked.

Blocked me thinks, was daft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 23, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 21, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Attitude,desire, a will to win. Grow up lads

It's time the real problem was addressed
What's the real problem?
jealousy. It will not go away. No matter how much people try.
Totally agree SIE and well said,  I see we are still (excluding me of course) obsessed with blame culture, a very Irish trait, but appears to be alive and well in this wee small portion of the North east of Ireland.  Very much a Shinner trait and very much more aligned to the (West Belfast) McCooeys mindset.  Deary, deary me, god help us all!  ;)

Also conscious the Loughgiel bashing has commenced rather earlier than you would expect  ??? ???

Well, good luck to Loughgiel, that's all I can say, the only semblance of hope/success we have and have had for the past few years  :) 

I wonder will I get a fitters job when Casement starts, or do I have to speak to the great unwashed Carol NiCh ?? whats her name?????? ;D ;D ;D  Hope it wont interfere with my dole cheque, if ya catch my drift! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 23, 2013, 01:13:00 PM
@CasementPark pic.twitter.com/cqqZ4Dq4cM

Just cant be Casement - 10 Reasons why!

1.The lights are on (PO'C must have been sacked)
2. No peelers watching out for the gatemen
3. The place is packed to the rafters (must be full of Tyrone DLA claimants looking for advice)  ;D
4. Streets are clean
5. No McGourtys (Kev &CJ) outside, being interviewed as to why they were not selected
6. No Shinners/Truceateers remonstrating with the gatemen( I'm Gerrys minder FFS!)
7. No private box for the Shinners/Truceateers- (they haven't gone away ya know) mores the pity  ;) ;D  - have to spend the 20m somewhere  ::)
8. Shinners/Truceateers not allocating the jobs for deprived and marginalised constituents - (Derry Contractor) - DEL sure to get it in the neck now  :o
9. No Helicopter pad (for the one who continues to claim he wasn't in, but flies in)  - not for the obtuse members of the thread  ;) ;D
10. No Grafitti - "Adams, remember Collins 1922"


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
Feeling I'm in a parallel dimension reading recent posts. Have Olly's relations landed?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlAUEJkWkA_FqKiIfDgIwf6k1dMYQXwggQiySavUPkcCPo0gwP)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
Feeling I'm in a parallel dimension reading recent posts. Have Olly's relations landed?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlAUEJkWkA_FqKiIfDgIwf6k1dMYQXwggQiySavUPkcCPo0gwP)

I'mm feeling more of a persecution complex with an hint of paranoia

lets all meet at logans fashions some day drive up to the pound and give them all a big hug, tell them its going to be OK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 24, 2013, 02:30:12 PM
Sure we no its going to be ok ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 24, 2013, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
Feeling I'm in a parallel dimension reading recent posts. Have Olly's relations landed?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlAUEJkWkA_FqKiIfDgIwf6k1dMYQXwggQiySavUPkcCPo0gwP)

I'mm feeling more of a persecution complex with an hint of paranoia

lets all meet at logans fashions some day drive up to the pound and give them all a big hug, tell them its going to be OK
Shamrock-bashing cnut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 24, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 24, 2013, 02:50:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
Feeling I'm in a parallel dimension reading recent posts. Have Olly's relations landed?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlAUEJkWkA_FqKiIfDgIwf6k1dMYQXwggQiySavUPkcCPo0gwP)

I'mm feeling more of a persecution complex with an hint of paranoia

lets all meet at logans fashions some day drive up to the pound and give them all a big hug, tell them its going to be OK
Shamrock-bashing cnut.
Now I wonder why that would be?????????????????  ::)  Go on the SHAMROCKS, sicken the hoors rightly  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 24, 2013, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2013, 09:01:17 PM
Feeling I'm in a parallel dimension reading recent posts. Have Olly's relations landed?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlAUEJkWkA_FqKiIfDgIwf6k1dMYQXwggQiySavUPkcCPo0gwP)

I'mm feeling more of a persecution complex with an hint of paranoia

lets all meet at logans fashions some day drive up to the pound and give them all a big hug, tell them its going to be OK
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRo-cdPn3jqW9_Ceu-w05ApKicqx4-kc_k3t8esSYHHnzIIbAuf (https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRo-cdPn3jqW9_Ceu-w05ApKicqx4-kc_k3t8esSYHHnzIIbAuf)


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2013, 04:31:58 PM
Merry Xmas to all the Antrim posters, well not all  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 24, 2013, 11:07:30 PM
Logan's???  Really??? I'd have thought the corner house would have been more convivial. Or maybe not these days.  ;)

And ditto what mr2 said. Happy Christmas.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on December 28, 2013, 04:52:23 PM
Just arrived at the RDS Stadium for the Rugby -  Leinster v Ulster, its no Croke Park by any standards  ;) Bigger and higher than Casement, but no Shinners living beside the RDS or Aviva.  Come on Leinster  ;) ;D  Pints are nicer than Casements also  :'

Well at least its better than watching throw ball, dont kick the ball, all behind the ball that St. Galls, Lamh Dhearg and all the other big ball clubs
play. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 03, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
Just wondering if any1 knows anything about the ulster hurling league this year,? Is it even taking place. It's a good comp for building up to the league but I have a feeling like the ulster final, it may not take place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 03, 2014, 08:29:15 AM
Last I heard that the Ulster Council in their wisdom are going to run the Ulster League in the summer months! Think a few North Antrim clubs are getting together to form their own league to fill the gap through Feb/Mar/Apr. This is all hearsay, has anyone else heard these rumours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 03, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: cfclg on January 03, 2014, 08:29:15 AM
Last I heard that the Ulster Council in their wisdom are going to run the Ulster League in the summer months! Think a few North Antrim clubs are getting together to form their own league to fill the gap through Feb/Mar/Apr. This is all hearsay, has anyone else heard these rumours?

If this is the case I actually give up on them. without the ulster league the competitive hurling season only spans 4months or 5 at a push if you do well. the counties 'squashing in' of fixtures was only offset in recent years by the fact that the ulster league gave the season a longer feel with competitive hurling spanning from feb to august and not end of April to august. ulster league is a great way go get the competitive edge that challenge games for their most part don't have.

I hope this is not the case but fear it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on January 03, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
Some individuals just don't seem to understand,  Ulster Council view hurling (probably the greatest game in the world - in my humble opinion of course) as a major inconvenience. FACT! >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 04, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
There is going to be a North Antrim league. Think all the division 1 and 2 teams from North Antrim have agreed to play (not Loughgiel as they have bigger fish to fry). Will be good to get competitive games up and running before the County leagues start at the beginning of April.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: RefForFee on January 04, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Heard from the grapevine,  Loughgeil have some tasty friendlies coming up over the next few weeks, lads training hard by all accounts and raring to go.  DCU, Dublin, Kilkenny, obviously going farther afield for some decent opposition and testing.  Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 04, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 04, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
There is going to be a North Antrim league. Think all the division 1 and 2 teams from North Antrim have agreed to play (not Loughgiel as they have bigger fish to fry). Will be good to get competitive games up and running before the County leagues start at the beginning of April.


Sounds good. Might try to get our club on the ball to set up a south antrim mini league with div 2 3 for any clubs interested. Not point sitting complaining, better being pro active. Hope it goes well for yas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 04, 2014, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2014, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 04, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 04, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
There is going to be a North Antrim league. Think all the division 1 and 2 teams from North Antrim have agreed to play (not Loughgiel as they have bigger fish to fry). Will be good to get competitive games up and running before the County leagues start at the beginning of April.


Sounds good. Might try to get our club on the ball to set up a south antrim mini league with div 2 3 for any clubs interested. Not point sitting complaining, better being pro active. Hope it goes well for yas.
Yep, best to forget about Ulster as far as hurling is concerned. Time to grab all our clubs in Belfast together and sort something out amongst ourselves, like north Antrim have done. No issue even contacting clubs from outside Antrim to ask if they want to get involved.

Think we have to get the ball rolling though, going to get in touch with our secretary tomorrow to see if we can make contact, 4 months hurling a year is a token gesture.sort out the first two months ourselves .

Forgot to add that I wouldn't be surprised if the county start charging for insurance for each match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 05, 2014, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 05, 2014, 01:00:13 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 04, 2014, 11:24:22 PM
Forgot to add that I wouldn't be surprised if the county start charging for insurance for each match.
We all pay our annual insurance to Croke Park*, sorry, GAA Central Council.

*That's a PLC who rent their pitch out for matches.

Another quirky slight of hand by the GAA corporate machine - hidden behind lectures of volunteerism.
Did Orwell write animal farm about the GAA?

No surprise with loughgiel - full commitment and preparation is why they are where they are. Are we allowed to support them yet?!
Or do we have to be jealous and hate them to fit the line!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
of course everyone else can support them, well expect me that is lol i cant have my biggest rivals doing well, thats just not on!

i think they play DCU tonight at the dub? seen that on a friend from lgiels (yes we can be friends :) ) twitter page last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 09, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
of course everyone else can support them, well expect me that is lol i cant have my biggest rivals doing well, thats just not on!

i think they play DCU tonight at the dub? seen that on a friend from lgiels (yes we can be friends :) ) twitter page last night


Aye, but are the BFF type friends???

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 09, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
of course everyone else can support them, well expect me that is lol i cant have my biggest rivals doing well, thats just not on!

i think they play DCU tonight at the dub? seen that on a friend from lgiels (yes we can be friends :) ) twitter page last night


Aye, but are the BFF type friends???

;D ;D ;D ;D

that depends on results against each other and how the game went! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 09, 2014, 03:02:12 PM
Very dull around as past few weeks.  Xmas blues??  I believe are other wonderful neighbours started back at weekend. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 09, 2014, 09:06:18 PM
See the starting 15 for Offaly match is named.  Very young, will be interesting to see how some of the U21s making senior debut gets on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
A wee win this evening against DCU. 4-14 to 0-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 10, 2014, 08:39:05 AM
Antrim (Walsh Cup v Offaly) - Seanan McToal; Ciaran Johnson, Eoghan Campbell, Michael Bradley; Simon McCrory, Conor McKinley, Paul Shiels; Barry McFall, Jackson McGreevy; Stephen McAfee, Mathew Donnelly, Niall McKenna; Daniel McKernan, Neil McManus (capt); Ciaran Clarke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 10, 2014, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
A wee win this evening against DCU. 4-14 to 0-11

Thats a big score. The university teams are typically in decent shape at this time of year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 10, 2014, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
A wee win this evening against DCU. 4-14 to 0-11

Thats a big score. The university teams are typically in decent shape at this time of year

Wouldn't think DCU would be one of the better teams in fairness, the next couple of games will be a better indication of where they are at. Anyword on how MLR are going in challenge games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 10, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 10, 2014, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
A wee win this evening against DCU. 4-14 to 0-11

Thats a big score. The university teams are typically in decent shape at this time of year

Wouldn't think DCU would be one of the better teams in fairness, the next couple of games will be a better indication of where they are at. Anyword on how MLR are going in challenge games?
thats the official score. I've been told by someone involved in the game it was more like 5-17. But yeah, the next few games should be tougher.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2014, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 10, 2014, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 09, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
A wee win this evening against DCU. 4-14 to 0-11

Thats a big score. The university teams are typically in decent shape at this time of year

Wouldn't think DCU would be one of the better teams in fairness, the next couple of games will be a better indication of where they are at. Anyword on how MLR are going in challenge games?
beaten by rower inistioge last night. 2-11 to 0-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?

Only an observation.  I don't think a friendly against Loughgiel would rank as high as the Walsh Cup.

Who knows, that score line you have given may have been exaggerated ....

Can you guarantee that was the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?

Only an observation.  I don't think a friendly against Loughgiel would rank as high as the Walsh Cup.

Who knows, that score line you have given may have been exaggerated ....

Can you guarantee that was the score?
yes, I can.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?

Only an observation.  I don't think a friendly against Loughgiel would rank as high as the Walsh Cup.

Who knows, that score line you have given may have been exaggerated ....

Can you guarantee that was the score?
yes, I can.  ;)

Keep us posted on your game against Dublin's reserve team tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:35:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?

Only an observation.  I don't think a friendly against Loughgiel would rank as high as the Walsh Cup.

Who knows, that score line you have given may have been exaggerated ....

Can you guarantee that was the score?
yes, I can.  ;)

Keep us posted on your game against Dublin's reserve team tomorrow.
i can guarantee I'll give you the final score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatsthescore on January 11, 2014, 11:18:14 PM
When does the fixtures come out for the antrim hurling league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2014, 12:55:52 AM
U will have a long wait for those!
Was march last year for leagues that started Easter Monday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 12, 2014, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:35:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 09:14:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 11, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
UCD 1-11 Shamrocks 2-15. Ft

Wouldn't have thought UCD fielded a full strength team as they have a Walsh Cup game V Carlow tomorrow.
can you guarantee that?

Only an observation.  I don't think a friendly against Loughgiel would rank as high as the Walsh Cup.

Who knows, that score line you have given may have been exaggerated ....

Can you guarantee that was the score?
yes, I can.  ;)

Keep us posted on your game against Dublin's reserve team tomorrow.
i can guarantee I'll give you the final score.

I can guarantee you will be waiting for a text with the result from a bias source.

You are leading us to believe you are shamrocks number one supporter and follow them the length and breath of the country, we both know that's not true, you're not in Dublin this weekend.

As I said before you are only the "go to guy" if someone wants something posted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2014, 10:59:20 AM
I've never claimed to be anything other than a supporter.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2014, 01:28:35 PM
Dublin 3-17 shamrocks 0-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2014, 08:52:12 AM
sometimes a defeat in a warm up game is a sobering thing, gives you more to think about in the build up to the real thing.

is it KK or waterford next? was chatting to a lgiel man yday and your own pitch isnt playable so it will be the dub again for it will it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 13, 2014, 10:27:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2014, 08:52:12 AM
sometimes a defeat in a warm up game is a sobering thing, gives you more to think about in the build up to the real thing.

is it KK or waterford next? was chatting to a lgiel man yday and your own pitch isnt playable so it will be the dub again for it will it?

Yeah a defeat can sometimes concentrate the effort more in training as everyone knows that there's a bit more improvement needed.

What about Joey, is he back in full training by now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 13, 2014, 11:29:52 AM
No mention of the game against the Biffos?

Must have had a poor second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2014, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 13, 2014, 11:29:52 AM
No mention of the game against the Biffos?

Must have had a poor second half

Quote from: theskull1 on January 13, 2014, 11:29:52 AM
No mention of the game against the Biffos?

Must have had a poor second half

Read the IN today, decent first half but we managed to score an og, handpass back to keeper ended up in the net!! Offaly finished the stronger, we were 4 points up at halftime, after racing into a 9 points to 3 lead early on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on January 14, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Loughgiel playing there semi in Newry. Sat 8th, 3pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 03:50:23 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on January 14, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Loughgiel playing there semi in Newry. Sat 8th, 3pm

That's not too bad, no drinking then we jaunt down then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 03:50:23 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on January 14, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Loughgiel playing there semi in Newry. Sat 8th, 3pm

That's not too bad, no drinking then we jaunt down then
There's a couple of good wee bars not that far away from the ground.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 14, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 03:50:23 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on January 14, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Loughgiel playing there semi in Newry. Sat 8th, 3pm

That's not too bad, no drinking then we jaunt down then

Initially I thought that it was possibly closer for Loughgiel, but I'd say you could do Carlow to Newry in just over 2 hours, not much different to what it would be from Loughgiel in fairness...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 14, 2014, 04:03:49 PM
Dunloy and Cushendall get dragged all the way down to Mullingar to play Galway opposition and the Shamrocks get a wee jaunt down the road to Newry!

What's that all about, eh, eh, eh????????

:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
Id have thought LG would have liked another trip back to Parnell seemed to suit their style and system.

Dont see them having much trouble getting past ML.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 04:39:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 14, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
Id have thought LG would have liked another trip back to Parnell seemed to suit their style and system.

Dont see them having much trouble getting past ML.

Should win by 10 pulling up, but if they don't match their hunger it could get a lot closer than it needs to be, hopefully everyone is fight fit and ready to go.

3-19 to 1-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
Here we go again.  ::)

Might I remind you they're Leinster champions lads and will be given due respect as such. They'll be no push-overs as they've proven already, twice. Loughgiel will have to give it their all to get over the finishing line in the lead. It'll be a close game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 14, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
Newry suits me, back home in time for celebrity splash as well. Everyone's a winner. Agree with MR2 on the score as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
Here we go again.  ::)

Might I remind you they're Leinster champions lads and will be given due respect as such. They'll be no push-overs as they've proven already, twice. Loughgiel will have to give it their all to get over the finishing line in the lead. It'll be a close game.

Yeah party line and all that, those who aren't involved can have a view on it without worrying. I doubt Carlow men will be looking in and as said before nothing is won or lost on a discussion board. I'm the worst for it regarding my own team when leading up to Championship games.

But in all seriousness this would be a dramatic failure in not getting to Croke again ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
Mr2 have u finally admitted playing down the galls before big games?!

Agree fully tho - anything other than a loughgiel win with a bit of a cushion would really surprise me.

I don't see the venue as having any influence at all.

Mentioning the galls - how's it looking for div1?
I'm not optimistic about the paddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 14, 2014, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
Here we go again.  ::)

Might I remind you they're Leinster champions lads and will be given due respect as such. They'll be no push-overs as they've proven already, twice. Loughgiel will have to give it their all to get over the finishing line in the lead. It'll be a close game.

Have to agree. oulart would be a better team than them on paper, but rangers just wouldn't let them hurl. very intresting game LG like and like to create space and feed of the ball runners. Rangers seem to be masters at closing down space and keeping teams from accurate passing.

LG to win as rangers only scored 3 points from play in there quarter final. Shamrocks have more firepower but will have to wait to the end to finish them off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 14, 2014, 07:17:38 PM
 MLR deserve a lot of respect and am sure are lads are looking no farther than the 8th of feb,   They've grinded results out against two very respectable teams to win Leinster.  And they have trained for an all Ireland before so am sure they have routine worked out and aren't new to the pressures of the big day.    If we hurl like we have been doing.  I'd fancy a win.  Anything less than are best and they've every chance   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Catch and Kick on January 14, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 14, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
Id have thought LG would have liked another trip back to Parnell seemed to suit their style and system.

Dont see them having much trouble getting past ML.

Hahaha....... we will see. You can play it on the Corkey Road for all we care down here. Rangers are coming for ye....they will do their talking on the pitch....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
Keiran Joyce and Sean Cummins, both Kilkenny panelist play on the team that Clooney Gaels play, Rower Inistioge. If Cummins picks up O'Connell then Gaels could be out of luck, be a tough ask and the game is in Meath at the end of the month.

Hope they get through to Croke again, great wee team

Edit: their minor team also won the Minor A grade final too!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
Keiran Joyce and Sean Cummins, both Kilkenny panelist play on the team that Clooney Gaels play, Rower Inistioge. If Cummins picks up O'Connell then Gaels could be out of luck, be a tough ask and the game is in Meath at the end of the month.

Hope they get through to Croke again, great wee team

Edit: their minor team also won the Minor A grade final too!!
rower inistiogue beat mlr in a warm up match last week by two goals. They seem to be handy enough alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
Keiran Joyce and Sean Cummins, both Kilkenny panelist play on the team that Clooney Gaels play, Rower Inistioge. If Cummins picks up O'Connell then Gaels could be out of luck, be a tough ask and the game is in Meath at the end of the month.

Hope they get through to Croke again, great wee team

Edit: their minor team also won the Minor A grade final too!!
rower inistiogue beat mlr in a warm up match last week by two goals. They seem to be handy enough alright.

Well, that would be enough to show most how good they are, Eddie Keher's team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
Keiran Joyce and Sean Cummins, both Kilkenny panelist play on the team that Clooney Gaels play, Rower Inistioge. If Cummins picks up O'Connell then Gaels could be out of luck, be a tough ask and the game is in Meath at the end of the month.

Hope they get through to Croke again, great wee team

Edit: their minor team also won the Minor A grade final too!!
rower inistiogue beat mlr in a warm up match last week by two goals. They seem to be handy enough alright.

Well, that would be enough to show most how good they are, Eddie Keher's team
He wasn't too shabby.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 14, 2014, 10:41:14 PM
I think the shams will win by about 5 points. Have a guess at 3-11 to 2-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2014, 08:54:08 AM
if most lgiel fans were honest they would be mightly disappointed if they lost this semi final. they are a far better team over the entire pitch tham MLR regardless of how polite they are when referencing them :)

if i was a lgiel fan i would be expecting my team to win that game, the same as i thought when following Dunloy in the semi finals when we were at our fully best. i knew how good we were and that if we played our game we would win.

Lgiel should win this one, by at least 7  if its not a wet boggy day. if it is then it will be a tighter affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
This MLR team will be much more physical than anything Loughgiel have come up against in a long time. There's too much talk here of it being easy - they didn't win leinster for nothing. I think they wll give Loughgiel a tight game and if they are in any way complacent they will be beat.

That said I hope Loughgiel win but there is no room for complacency. Just look at the teams these other boys have beaten - they're not in a semi for nothing.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
This MLR team will be much more physical than anything Loughgiel have come up against in a long time. There's too much talk here of it being easy - they didn't win leinster for nothing. I think they wll give Loughgiel a tight game and if they are in any way complacent they will be beat.

That said I hope Loughgiel win but there is no room for complacency. Just look at the teams these other boys have beaten - they're not in a semi for nothing.

No poster has said anything other than a Loughgiel win but if they are complacent they will find it hard, that's been the general conciseness in fairness.

Yes they beat OTB and the rest but if you were the other semi finalists MLR would be the team that you'd want, now MLR will also be happy (historically) getting the Ulster Champions. No doubt they will most definitely believe (given their recent success's) that they are well in this game and preparing to win the game rather than turn up.

I can't be anymore truthfull on this match and If I were a manager heading down to play MLR as Ulster senior Champions I'd be worried about the players mindset leading into the game as big favourites and players attitude of "it's only the Carlow Champions" I'm sure PJ and the rest (senior players) will have beat that out of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 11:04:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 09:58:12 AM

I can't be anymore truthfull on this match and If I were a manager heading down to play MLR as Ulster senior Champions I'd be worried about the players mindset leading into the game as big favourites and players attitude of "it's only the Carlow Champions" I'm sure PJ and the rest (senior players) will have beat that out of them.

Yep I hope they have.

These MLR guys will bring a lot of intensity to it and are very physical. Loughgiel had that intensity 2 years ago when they won but not so much last year.

In my view if they don't match 2 years ago then they could be on a potential banana skin here.

I think they will win but I do think it's a tricky match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2014, 11:07:33 AM
There's nothing being taken for granted in Loughgiel, that's for sure. I know the lads are training more intensively than ever and really want to atone for the second game against st Thomas' last February. It has the makings of a very tense, tight game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 11:14:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 11:04:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 09:58:12 AM

I can't be anymore truthfull on this match and If I were a manager heading down to play MLR as Ulster senior Champions I'd be worried about the players mindset leading into the game as big favourites and players attitude of "it's only the Carlow Champions" I'm sure PJ and the rest (senior players) will have beat that out of them.

Yep I hope they have.

These MLR guys will bring a lot of intensity to it and are very physical. Loughgiel had that intensity 2 years ago when they won but not so much last year.

In my view if they don't match 2 years ago then they could be on a potential banana skin here.

I think they will win but I do think it's a tricky match.

You're going to laugh but I look at that MLR team and think they are like our senior team of a couple of years ago, great fitness/intensity and will to win.

The game against OTB they didn't start too well, hung in and the free taker was able to tag over a few scores, OTB's stick work was far better and MLR's was a bit like ours, couple of great hurlers and the rest decent enough but fit and strong. Loughgiel need to have that period in a match were they can tag a couple of goals and few points to pull clear, if they don't MLR will reel them in, still think though should it get tight in the end Loughgiel should have the experience to win through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
I only saw the first half of that game where MLR had more possession but their shooting was shocking so was surprised they won it but then seeing the highlights they just seemed to beat OTB down. I would agree - the stickwork didn't look as sharp but in saying that there are not many from up here who would look like they had could stickwork when compared to the Jacobs and the like.

Quick ball into the forwards and not getting dragged into a dogfight in the middle third of the field are essential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 15, 2014, 11:57:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 11:42:44 AM
I only saw the first half of that game where MLR had more possession but their shooting was shocking so was surprised they won it but then seeing the highlights they just seemed to beat OTB down. I would agree - the stickwork didn't look as sharp but in saying that there are not many from up here who would look like they had could stickwork when compared to the Jacobs and the like.

Quick ball into the forwards and not getting dragged into a dogfight in the middle third of the field are essential.

It was a matter of a slow pitch and the younger fitter MLR outfought OLB, it was not down to skill or hurling ability but sheer exuberance of youth and will to run that extra yard that got them over the line.

Sadly for MLR I dont think this type of enthusiasm will count to the same level as it did against a mentally fragile OLB side.

They will need to bring a bit more to the table and I just dont see it in their locker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

Watched the Ballyboden game to, was really strange to, Boden had a couple of injuries to during the game but should have had enough firepower to get over the line considering their team.

It really has the making of a intriguing game, looking forward to it. Still saying 10 points though ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 15, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

Watched the Ballyboden game to, was really strange to, Boden had a couple of injuries to during the game but should have had enough firepower to get over the line considering their team.

It really has the making of a intriguing game, looking forward to it. Still saying 10 points though ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

The Ballyboden side werent a great vintage either, add to that the Dublin championship is one of the most competitive and taxing, with a few injuries left them vulnerable. Lets also face the fact that the Leinster championship hasnt been up to scratch for a few years now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 15, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

Watched the Ballyboden game to, was really strange to, Boden had a couple of injuries to during the game but should have had enough firepower to get over the line considering their team.

It really has the making of a intriguing game, looking forward to it. Still saying 10 points though ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

The Ballyboden side werent a great vintage either, add to that the Dublin championship is one of the most competitive and taxing, with a few injuries left them vulnerable. Lets also face the fact that the Leinster championship hasnt been up to scratch for a few years now.

Bar the Munster champions (who have been very poor) it's been spread about with Leinster, Galway and Ulster all having wins recently, Na Piarsaigh are my pick this year as the progressive team and have a good chance to beat Portumna
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2014, 01:28:40 PM
Na Piarsaigh looked very good in their run through munster, well improved from the team i seen 2 years ago that lgiel beat.

fancy them to beat portumna
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 01:33:56 PM
I think Na Piarsagh will win it. Very physical but with some very good hurlers in there too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 15, 2014, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 15, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

Watched the Ballyboden game to, was really strange to, Boden had a couple of injuries to during the game but should have had enough firepower to get over the line considering their team.

It really has the making of a intriguing game, looking forward to it. Still saying 10 points though ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 15, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
how did they beat ballyboden then?(wasn't it ballyboden the dublin champs - who are a very good side)

was that a slow pitch and sheer exuberance of youth?

The Ballyboden side werent a great vintage either, add to that the Dublin championship is one of the most competitive and taxing, with a few injuries left them vulnerable. Lets also face the fact that the Leinster championship hasnt been up to scratch for a few years now.

Bar the Munster champions (who have been very poor) it's been spread about with Leinster, Galway and Ulster all having wins recently, Na Piarsaigh are my pick this year as the progressive team and have a good chance to beat Portumna
I fancy Na Piarsigh myself, talking to a Portumna selector who reckoned they were soft but i reckon they'll be up against it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2014, 08:59:08 AM
i think they went away after losing 2 yeara ago to Lgiel and learned alot from it. Much the same as the Portumna team we beat in Clones. they were prob taken aback by ourselves, maybe under estimated us and wernt as street wise as our lads were from being there abouts most years

they went back and learned and came back even better and wiser for it.

Na Piarsigh prob didnt treat Lgiel with the respect they were due and maybe under estimated them as Lgiel were much wiser and more determined due to the number of antrim finals they lost over the years.

i expect Na Piarsigh to be fully determined to win it this year. they could be hard to beat this season as we have seen in their run through munster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 16, 2014, 08:59:08 AM
i think they went away after losing 2 yeara ago to Lgiel and learned alot from it. Much the same as the Portumna team we beat in Clones. they were prob taken aback by ourselves, maybe under estimated us and wernt as street wise as our lads were from being there abouts most years

they went back and learned and came back even better and wiser for it.

Na Piarsigh prob didnt treat Lgiel with the respect they were due and maybe under estimated them as Lgiel were much wiser and more determined due to the number of antrim finals they lost over the years.

i expect Na Piarsigh to be fully determined to win it this year. they could be hard to beat this season as we have seen in their run through munster

Havent seen NaP this year, but remember being shocked at the poor technique of a lot of NaP players that day. Loughgiel had twice the stickwork that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 16, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
Which is why I expect them to win pulling up against MLR, they now have players all comfortable on the ball and able to use it. Dont think MLR are the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Flutehook on January 16, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 15, 2014, 12:28:21 PM

The Ballyboden side werent a great vintage either, add to that the Dublin championship is one of the most competitive and taxing, with a few injuries left them vulnerable. Lets also face the fact that the Leinster championship hasnt been up to scratch for a few years now.

Dublin SHC is probably the weakest and most poorly organised among the 'hurling' counties!

Boden strolled through Dublin playing like the Harlem Globetrotters, and with similar intensity, during most matches; their average winning margin was probably 15 points or so. Aside from the Crokes match they weren't pushed at all - Lucan pressed a bit in the final but Boden won playing within themselves, even after going down to 14 men.

In Leinster MLR brought a physicality and intensity that Boden struggled with - especially in the middle third where MLR deployed extra men. Bodens midfield was Shane Durkin (more suited to a sweeping half-back role) and Niall McMorrow (class hurler and stickman but physically slight enough) and they were horsed out of it and couldn't cope with the extra man. MLR also contested and broke nearly every ball in their half-back line to deny Boden, Keaney in particular, possession.

Boden seemed to have no response to this other than to rely on their capacity to get goals - several times they carved open MLR with scintillating moves but a combination of bad choices and good saves limited them to 3 goals. Towards the end it changed from going for goals "cos they can" to "cos they had to" - and it's always more difficult at that stage.

Boden will swear they weren't complacent but they let/found themselves (be) dragged into a low-scoring dogfight and had no real response; I'd imagine the plan for Shamrocks is not overly dissimilar. MLR also have the hurlers to effect this plan and some very skillful players who can score from range. They also delivered a couple of cheap off the ball strikes - including one to the head that saw the recipient stretchered off. Looking forward to it and will spin up to Newry.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
It seems to be Na Piarsiagh's for the taking then.   :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2014, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
It seems to be Na Piarsiagh's for the taking then.   :-\

Christ on that report ya might not get past the semi finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
It seems to be Na Piarsiagh's for the taking then.   :-\

::) 9/10 believe the shams have what it takes to win the Tom Moore again....end of

Quit yer whinning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
It seems to be Na Piarsiagh's for the taking then.   :-\

::) 9/10 believe the shams have what it takes to win the Tom Moore again....end of

Quit yer whinning
from what I've read on here it appears Na p are winning it. End of. Observation skull, not whining.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Flutehook on January 16, 2014, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 07:01:30 PM
It seems to be Na Piarsiagh's for the taking then.   :-\

Only if ye are as presumptuous as Boden were; or as poor as ye were in Clones last year.

Somehow I doubt if either will be the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 16, 2014, 11:13:37 PM
Loch gCaol have no chance this year.

It appears that is all they want to hear....
......and even if they don't hear it, they will pretend to hear it anyway.

For someone who would love to see Loch gCaol win the All Ireland again, I am growing increasingly tired of this "everyone wants us beat" inferiority complex that they constantly espouse.

There is no basis to it, now ffs give it up.
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
You heard  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 11:19:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
You heard  ::)
i haven't mentioned Loughgiel's chances.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 11:21:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 16, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Example:

Some people think Na Piarsaigh will be hard to beat.

On seeing this, you start getting narky in a "the other teams may as we'll not turn up" way.

Nobody said that.
i didn't get narky, but several of you definitely seem to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 16, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
It even goes back to the "why is nobody talking about us" episode a couple of weeks back when a few of us were discussing Casement development.
the perils of posting with a few beers hs. You'd know about that.  ;)

That's not what I was trying to get across. But sure, what odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 16, 2014, 11:33:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 16, 2014, 11:29:42 PM
It is continuous. It appears that nobody can positively discuss the other semi finalists without Loch gCaol ones seeing it as an affront on them.
i merely made a comment on what I read. Take a look at the reaction.  Says a lot more about them. And as far as I can see the only other loughgiel one that posted was sleeping giant.  He, Like me, was giving mlr their due respects. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 17, 2014, 12:12:24 AM
Selective reading to build that seige mentality. If that's what you think it takes fair enough, but don't think anyone could be arsed being a pawn in that game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 17, 2014, 06:17:38 AM
Selective reading indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 17, 2014, 09:39:45 AM
Newry isn't called the marshes for nothing lads, so don't be expecting a fast dry sod in the middle of february..

I've been impressed with the technique of a lot of the Carlow senior hurling teams I've seen in recent years, they've pushed hard at minor and U-21 in Leinster as well, so they can hurl and aren't just big mollockers.
MLR are the backbone of the Carlow team and have some very good hurlers mostly up the spine of their team, Loughgiel in my mind should pummel the wings where they would have better hurlers than their MLR counterparts, don't play to MLR strengths, open it up as much as possible.
MLR will indeed contest every ball and crowd out the defence and midfield region hence Loughgiel will need to be cute with possession and come up with something for the puck outs to get the ball beyond the MLR half back line and work the spaces behind it.
When push comes to shove you still need men to put their paw up and more often than not come down with it in the forwards something I think may be Loughgiels achilles heel and the need for a Joey Scullion hugging the sidelines to win one on one aerial battles. Whilst I think Liam has had better years to date, he's a major distraction for the opposition and could lead to more space for the rest of the forwards which they need to make hay with. I'd be inclined to start him in the corner but every once in a while let him come out roaming to pick up the pieces in front of his half forward line.

Loughgiel will be favourites and rightly so, but MLR have nothing to lose and everything from now on is a bonus to them and would be fairly dangerous. It would be foolish of anyone to take them lightly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
That's a fair and unbiased assessment Johnney, as always. You Down fckers always have some manners lol

Youse playing at the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 17, 2014, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
That's a fair and unbiased assessment Johnney, as always. You Down fckers always have some manners lol

Youse playing at the weekend?

Who Down? Queens in the Kehoe cup or something up at the Dub I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 17, 2014, 01:31:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
That's a fair and unbiased assessment Johnney, as always. You Down fckers always have some manners lol

Youse playing at the weekend?

Who Down? Queens in the Kehoe cup or something up at the Dub I believe.

Aye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 17, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
Johnny has pretty much said what myself or SIE has said on the matter.  Any team at this stage deserves respect.   Anyone talking of 10 to 15 points is on drugs.  Or are setting Loughgiel up as massive cannot be beaten favorite to talk muck if MLR turns them over, we've all seen it before,  so my last take on it is,Loughgiel has trained hard all winter, they will go to newry on the 8th to play a hard and stubborn Carlow team.  Anything less than are best won't do,the players attitudes will play a massive part, and I believe there attitude is spot on.  So bring on the 8th!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 17, 2014, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 17, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
Johnny has pretty much said what myself or SIE has said on the matter.  Any team at this stage deserves respect.   Anyone talking of 10 to 15 points is on drugs.  Or are setting Loughgiel up as massive cannot be beaten favorite to talk muck if MLR turns them over, we've all seen it before,  so my last take on it is,Loughgiel has trained hard all winter, they will go to newry on the 8th to play a hard and stubborn Carlow team.  Anything less than are best won't do,the players attitudes will play a massive part, and I believe there attitude is spot on.  So bring on the 8th!!!
Joey has recovered and we have a full squad to work with. No injuries as of today. Hopefully it'll stay like that after our game tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 18, 2014, 08:56:23 AM

I hear Loughgiel play Antrim today.  That's a few games you have arranged SIE when the opposition have a more competitive game the next day. Don't really see the point.  Maybe it's your reserves that are playing :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 18, 2014, 08:56:23 AM

I hear Loughgiel play Antrim today.  That's a few games you have arranged SIE when the opposition have a more competitive game the next day. Don't really see the point.  Maybe it's your reserves that are playing :-)
in armoy at 1. No doubt the subs will get a run out. Like last year, when we beat them.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Shamrocks 1-17 Antrim 0-12. Tough enough game today. Antrim only scored 3 points from play in the second half. A good wee run out for us before the big guns later this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2014, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Shamrocks 1-17 Antrim 0-12. Tough enough game today. Antrim only scored 3 points from play in the second half. A good wee run out for us before the big guns later this week.

Played at the Dub?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2014, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Shamrocks 1-17 Antrim 0-12. Tough enough game today. Antrim only scored 3 points from play in the second half. A good wee run out for us before the big guns later this week.

Played at the Dub?
armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 18, 2014, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Shamrocks 1-17 Antrim 0-12. Tough enough game today. Antrim only scored 3 points from play in the second half. A good wee run out for us before the big guns later this week.

Who you playing later in the week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 18, 2014, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
Shamrocks 1-17 Antrim 0-12. Tough enough game today. Antrim only scored 3 points from play in the second half. A good wee run out for us before the big guns later this week.

Who you playing later in the week?
offaly next Saturday. Waterford possibly on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 18, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
What were the line outs at today's game SIE?

Antrim fielding a fairly young, inexperienced team tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on January 18, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
What were the line outs at today's game SIE?

Antrim fielding a fairly young, inexperienced team tomorrow.
mcmanus et al were playing. The national league team sans the loughgiel players I'd suggest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on January 19, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Anybody down in Mullingar today?An u21 team out?General feedback seems to be we hurled well but lack of experience caught up with us.We werent clinical and they kicked in two goals?

Also any reports from Down vs Queens?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2014, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on January 19, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Anybody down in Mullingar today?An u21 team out?General feedback seems to be we hurled well but lack of experience caught up with us.We werent clinical and they kicked in two goals?

Also any reports from Down vs Queens?

Down were very young and hurled very well against a weakend Queens team, though Queens did have a couple of handy hurlers down the middle, think score was 4-17 to 0-10? Not sure. Paul Flynn helping out on the line for Down. Great to see committed hurlers out on a Sat night in pissy conditions hurling hard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 21, 2014, 12:33:44 PM
Any word on the injury sustained at the weekend for the shams?

i sincerely hope its not as bad as ive heard, for the fella in question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 21, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: Megaman on January 21, 2014, 12:33:44 PM
Any word on the injury sustained at the weekend for the shams?

i sincerely hope its not as bad as ive heard, for the fella in question.
He'll be fit for the semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Good to see Ulster scheduling the 2013 final in close proximity to the club final. Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 22, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
Antrim and Down are the bigger fools if they play it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 22, 2014, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 22, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
Antrim and Down are the bigger fools if they play it.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 22, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 22, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
Antrim and Down are the bigger fools if they play it.

I agree.
It would be dancing to the tune of people with no interest in hurling.
Last time this happened Antrim went to America to play the ulster final in October - you would think the football goats in ulster council would have learned their lesson. 
But lo and behold another complete failure to for an entire provincial council to fix a game of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
I think this one of those rare occasions when we're all in agreement. The ulster council are an embarrassment when it comes to hurling. I agree with skull, don't play it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 22, 2014, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
I think this one of those rare occasions when we're all in agreement. The ulster council are an embarrassment when it comes to hurling. I agree with skull, don't play it.

On principle I wouldn't play it as its meaningless at this stage, but you can bet your bottom dollar Frankie Quinn and his Down counterpart Sean Óg McAteer ensure its played for their paymasters in the Ulster council..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 22, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 22, 2014, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
I think this one of those rare occasions when we're all in agreement. The ulster council are an embarrassment when it comes to hurling. I agree with skull, don't play it.

On principle I wouldn't play it as its meaningless at this stage, but you can bet your bottom dollar Frankie Quinn and his Down counterpart Sean Óg McAteer ensure its played for their paymasters in the Ulster council..

Time for players to stand up then. If these officials arent going to respect the game, then its important that the players and supporters of the game do.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 22, 2014, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 22, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 22, 2014, 04:16:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
I think this one of those rare occasions when we're all in agreement. The ulster council are an embarrassment when it comes to hurling. I agree with skull, don't play it.

On principle I wouldn't play it as its meaningless at this stage, but you can bet your bottom dollar Frankie Quinn and his Down counterpart Sean Óg McAteer ensure its played for their paymasters in the Ulster council..

Time for players to stand up then. If these officials arent going to respect the game, then its important that the players and supporters of the game do.

A week and a half notice in the middle of pre season perperation  for a national league, and your told to head up to Derry for a provincial final. Yeah fcuk whatever training camps or challenge games organised for that weekend, drop everything and do what your told.

What other provincial county board would try this let alone get away with it? Their not even paying lip service to hurling anymore, just taking the piss out of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 22, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
All good and valid points - It's impossible to even play devils advocate with this one! I was wondering why croke park don't step in and look at ulster council's running of hurling at this stage - but obviously it's not high in the agenda there. What's sure is that it isn't even on the ulster agenda!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
And it could get better, if Down beat Fingal this weekend in the Kehoe cup, which they'd be favourites for then they'd be due to play Kildare or someone else in the Kehoe cup semi-final the same day the Ulster council has decreed for the 2013 Ulster hurling final.

The Ulster council knew about it, yet went ahead and fixed it anyway!!

With the NHL looming for both counties the Ulster council don't want this dragging on, forget about it lads, its an non-redeemable situation, don't compound the initial mess by compounding it and further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
And it could get better, if Down beat Fingal this weekend in the Kehoe cup, which they'd be favourites for then they'd be due to play Kildare or someone else in the Kehoe cup semi-final the same day the Ulster council has decreed for the 2013 Ulster hurling final.

The Ulster council knew about it, yet went ahead and fixed it anyway!!

With the NHL looming for both counties the Ulster council don't want this dragging on, forget about it lads, its an non-redeemable situation, don't compound the initial mess by compounding it and further.

And the hits just keep on comin!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 23, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
And it could get better, if Down beat Fingal this weekend in the Kehoe cup, which they'd be favourites for then they'd be due to play Kildare or someone else in the Kehoe cup semi-final the same day the Ulster council has decreed for the 2013 Ulster hurling final.

The Ulster council knew about it, yet went ahead and fixed it anyway!!

With the NHL looming for both counties the Ulster council don't want this dragging on, forget about it lads, its an non-redeemable situation, don't compound the initial mess by compounding it and further.

Unbelievable, if this is true I really don't know what to say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 23, 2014, 10:18:21 AM
They won't, but should, refuse to play it. Why don't they use the valid reason that they don't have their full squad due to the Loughiel contingent being more focused on something more important than this Mickey Mouse competition??

On another note, and hopefully Johnneycool can verify this, I seen on FB last night a post declaring that Down will not be running any hurling leagues this year? Is this true? If so, is it Senior only or does it include juvenile as well? Is the Down county board leaving promotion of hurling to the Antrim board and their leagues? I was asked in work to buy a raffle ticket for a draw being run by the Down County Board, decent prizes too, but i'll be damned if i'm going to buy a ticket for an organisation that does nothing to promote hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on January 23, 2014, 10:18:21 AM
They won't, but should, refuse to play it. Why don't they use the valid reason that they don't have their full squad due to the Loughiel contingent being more focused on something more important than this Mickey Mouse competition??

On another note, and hopefully Johnneycool can verify this, I seen on FB last night a post declaring that Down will not be running any hurling leagues this year? Is this true? If so, is it Senior only or does it include juvenile as well? Is the Down county board leaving promotion of hurling to the Antrim board and their leagues? I was asked in work to buy a raffle ticket for a draw being run by the Down County Board, decent prizes too, but i'll be damned if i'm going to buy a ticket for an organisation that does nothing to promote hurling!

I'm not entirely sure how this seemed to happen but with the Ulster leagues moving to a more summertime schedule and played at weekends someone either in Down or outside decided to drop all adult hurling leagues normally fixed for a Monday night.
IMO it had to be someone in Down who made the call as I didn't see anything about the Derry hurling leagues getting binned as well, just surmising there.

We couldn't possibly enter the Ulster league as it would in all likelihood either be on the day of an Antrim league game or the day before, probably the same reason Antrim teams don't seem to be involved this time around.

There was no consultation process with any of the hurling clubs in Down, they were informed about this approx a month ago and most voiced their disapproval of the cancelling of the Down leagues.
This led to what I'm being told a very heated debate with the Down CCC and the hurling clubs and the compromise is some sort of supplementary round robin competitions involving the Ards reserve and thirds teams and the rest of the Down clubs.
For some reason they don't want to reinstate the previous Down leagues which at best was 14 fixtures in a year and are going for this 'unofficial' tournament.

As much as ourselves, the other Ards clubs and Bredagh would be concentrating on the Antrim leagues we still needed the Down leagues to blood lads out of U-16 into adult hurling. Although we've struggled in recent years to field in the Antrim league reserves we've a good few lads out of U-16 who will make a power of difference in terms of numbers and ability to field but there's no guarantees of the amount of reserve hurling in Antrim either.
If say we've a midweek game with a NA team, either home or away then the probability is that the senior game will be the only one played and the reserve game won't be fixed after that. That's not uncommon and not understandable due to the expense of travel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
I see on the Antrim guestbook that Rossa have decided to enter the intermediate championship this year. Bit of a surprise?  Glenariff and Cloughmills dropping down to Intermediate as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
I see on the Antrim guestbook that Rossa have decided to enter the intermediate championship this year. Bit of a surprise?  Glenariff and Cloughmills dropping down to Intermediate as well
Sounds about right to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
I see on the Antrim guestbook that Rossa have decided to enter the intermediate championship this year. Bit of a surprise?  Glenariff and Cloughmills dropping down to Intermediate as well

True HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
Would never have thought this would happen in fairness, Rossa's first go at Intermediate, I take it Glenariffe can go beyond Ulster as there was a time limit on past winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 04:46:14 PM
A good run out today against Offaly over 3 periods of 30 minutes. Finished a draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship

Clubs pick the Championship they want, has always been the case, Sarsfields have not won an Intermediate match in 7 odd years , they'll hardly want to play senior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on January 25, 2014, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 14, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2013, 10:29:52 PM
FAO Milltown Row:

Rossa will win the 2014 Antrim "Intermediate"championship. Be sure to factor this comment in if you referee any of their games next year.

Fixed that for you, that will be your level next year.
Rossa will not be playing Intermediate hurling next year.

Sure I told you this back in September.

Looks like I know your club better than you do HS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship

Clubs pick the Championship they want, has always been the case, Sarsfields have not won an Intermediate match in 7 odd years , they'll hardly want to play senior championship


Clubs can elect to play up levels if they wish, they are not allowed to choose to play a lower grade than their league. Division 1 is Senior, 2 is intermediate, 3 is junior, and 4 is the new junior B. Simple as that. Sarsfields are in the Senior championship. Fact!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship

Clubs pick the Championship they want, has always been the case, Sarsfields have not won an Intermediate match in 7 odd years , they'll hardly want to play senior championship


Clubs can elect to play up levels if they wish, they are not allowed to choose to play a lower grade than their league. Division 1 is Senior, 2 is intermediate, 3 is junior, and 4 is the new junior B. Simple as that. Sarsfields are in the Senior championship. Fact!

I didn't realise the Johnnies were in Div 2 when they played Intermediate.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship

Clubs pick the Championship they want, has always been the case, Sarsfields have not won an Intermediate match in 7 odd years , they'll hardly want to play senior championship


Clubs can elect to play up levels if they wish, they are not allowed to choose to play a lower grade than their league. Division 1 is Senior, 2 is intermediate, 3 is junior, and 4 is the new junior B. Simple as that. Sarsfields are in the Senior championship. Fact!

I didn't realise the Johnnies were in Div 2 when they played Intermediate.......

Correct, they were indeed in division 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
There's also no guarantee of winning the Antrim Intermediate also, as Glenariffe will also fancy themselves. I can see both sides to it and 9 years is a lot for a club to suffer in Championship, Antrim suffered 18 years before beating Down to get past the first round!!

Rossa will obviously fancy themselves and getting out of Ulster is easy enough for a team like Rossa, the semi final is the game that will decide if they have actually improved and again no guarantees that they will help the following year in senior championship as we were dicked in the first round and nearly relegated (luckily someone came back to steer the ship ;))

There will be a ripple effect though as it reduces the senior championship, maybe if they run a group system to generate an extra (hidding for us) game but if there are only 7 teams, Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall, Clooney Gaels, Ballycastle St Johns, Naomh Gall then it devalues it a bit

Sarsfields are also up in division one, so automatically in the Senior championship

Clubs pick the Championship they want, has always been the case, Sarsfields have not won an Intermediate match in 7 odd years , they'll hardly want to play senior championship


Clubs can elect to play up levels if they wish, they are not allowed to choose to play a lower grade than their league. Division 1 is Senior, 2 is intermediate, 3 is junior, and 4 is the new junior B. Simple as that. Sarsfields are in the Senior championship. Fact!

I didn't realise the Johnnies were in Div 2 when they played Intermediate.......

Correct, they were indeed in division 2.

2010 then hmmm. Fact?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
He's right milltown. They were in Div 2 for one year. They played intermediate that year.

Shame on them, how'd they do in the All Ireland semi final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
Sarsfields haven't played senior in over 15 years I'd say (played my first Senior Championship against the Paddies in 88). 8 teams then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
The johnnies lost to a Kilkenny team I think.

Looking only at results I see intermediate as a legitimate step for Rossa. I'm just surprised they have acknowledged it themselves!
For city hurling hopefully it helps them build again long term.

Depending on who is in senior & intermediate then it will be interesting to see the draws on February 4th!

Game time creeping up for the shamrocks - professional preparations as expected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
It's the done thing in the south. Go down a level up to get themselves geared to get back up again. Still not a step to be taken lightly. The correct structure has to be in place at underage level and Rossa certainly have that. It's probably the right thing to do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 09:12:31 PM
True but it is paramount that it not used as a safety net for lack of preparation and commitment.

IMO, with the right preparation and commitment, we could compete well at senior.
true. I was going to add a caveat that yous nearly had us a couple of years ago. Yous aren't that bad.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
He's right milltown. They were in Div 2 for one year. They played intermediate that year.

Shame on them, how'd they do in the All Ireland semi final?
I know they lost but can't remember the score.

They lost to Dicksboro from Kilkenny 0-16 to 1-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
Of course it is the right decision for the abovementioned teams. If you have nothing to either offer or gain from playing SC then it is better to drop back and try to consolidate and maybe give some younger lads a runout which can only be positive in the long run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 09:53:04 PM
That is true, Tony, if lack of talent and ability is the reason why you are struggling at senior.
Now, if that is the problem with Rossa, I am happy to accept it and intermediate would be the right move. However, any time I hear the "what went wrong" end of year reports of Rossa hurling, the same things come up. Lack of commitment, lack of preparation, general apathy.
Dropping to intermediate and being successful at that level while the same levels of apathy remain gives a false sense of progression.
Doing the same things as you have done previously but still winning a lock of intermediate games is pointless.

How long has this been the problem HS?
2004 was a long time ago now!
I think loughgiel have shown you get what you deserve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
You won a championship under-prepared and with a lack commitment and apathy?

Surely if it's going on that long then it's not apathy or under-prepared or lack of commitment - it's just Rossa!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
So HS if Rossa are under-prepared, not committed and apathetic - and have been for years - then surely they should be in senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.

Tony if thats the case our footballers shouldn't be winning too many Championships
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
So HS if Rossa are under-prepared, not committed and apathetic - and have been for years - then surely they should be in senior?
Unsure what you are asking?

They'll show same attitude in Intermediate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.
not really true nowadays tony. We have cars, electric and everything now ya know.  ;)

I think I agree with what hs is hinting at. It comes down to how much work you want to put into it. And how much you want it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
So HS if Rossa are under-prepared, not committed and apathetic - and have been for years - then surely they should be in senior?
Unsure what you are asking?

They'll show same attitude in Intermediate?
Well, that's the point I was making at the very beginning. The safety net of intermediate. If those things are the reason for failure at senior, there is no point dropping down a level and winning a few matches while the same apathy remains.
Those few wins only put a gloss on the problem.

And there's certainly no point staying senior if all those things are true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.

Tony if thats the case our footballers shouldn't be winning too many Championships
There is an exception to every rule (you also have plenty fond of the high stool  ;D)

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.
not really true nowadays tony. We have cars, electric and everything now ya know.  ;)

I think I agree with what hs is hinting at. It comes down to how much work you want to put into it. And how much you want it.
But the club is the centre of the community and youse don't have Legends nightclub to fight in at the weekends.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 12:02:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.
not really true nowadays tony. We have cars, electric and everything now ya know.  ;)

I think I agree with what hs is hinting at. It comes down to how much work you want to put into it. And how much you want it.

Fcuk when did that happen? Next thing ya know you'll develop a sense of humour ;)

Tony, attitude and respect, those two things can make a standard senior team (Ballycastle lets say) into a contender, Rossa and the Johnnies have the tools they just need to f**king use them. Every club has high stools and dicks that sit on them, some of them come on here every so often and talk a lot of shite, get barred and come back ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
So HS if Rossa are under-prepared, not committed and apathetic - and have been for years - then surely they should be in senior?
Unsure what you are asking?

They'll show same attitude in Intermediate?
Well, that's the point I was making at the very beginning. The safety net of intermediate. If those things are the reason for failure at senior, there is no point dropping down a level and winning a few matches while the same apathy remains.
Those few wins only put a gloss on the problem.

And there's certainly no point staying senior if all those things are true.
There's as much point failing at senior as winning at intermediate if those problems still exist. That's the point.

BTW, those things are only problems I have heard about our teams. I don't rule out not being good enough for senior.

Curious.
Some is opinion - but results are facts.
On the basis of results - Rossa in intermediate is logical.
You can always watch sarsfields or the galls in championship next year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 12:18:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 11:46:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM
So HS if Rossa are under-prepared, not committed and apathetic - and have been for years - then surely they should be in senior?
Unsure what you are asking?

They'll show same attitude in Intermediate?
Well, that's the point I was making at the very beginning. The safety net of intermediate. If those things are the reason for failure at senior, there is no point dropping down a level and winning a few matches while the same apathy remains.
Those few wins only put a gloss on the problem.

And there's certainly no point staying senior if all those things are true.
There's as much point failing at senior as winning at intermediate if those problems still exist. That's the point.

BTW, those things are only problems I have heard about our teams. I don't rule out not being good enough for senior.

Curious.
Some is opinion - but results are facts.
On the basis of results - Rossa in intermediate is logical.
You can always watch sarsfields or the galls in championship next year!

Be handy if we met each other in the first round, Tired of getting Loughgiel ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 26, 2014, 12:23:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 12:02:56 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2014, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2014, 10:36:39 PM
A long time and before 2004.

That's true.

How many of these special juvenile players over the years will look back and think they should have won a senior championship or two?  So many decent teams over the years have fallen by the wayside, St Johns the same. These lads for whatever reason have not progressed at senior, maybe the attitude is wrong, drink culture can't help or just lack of ambition are the factors.

Having the right senior set up, the players buy into the management team and goals can make a big difference.
The simple fact is there are more distractions/temptations in Belfast than Loughgiel, Cushendall, Dunloy etc. so you are never going to see the same player retention as the rural areas, many of which have fcuk all apart from the club (looking at you Loughgiel). Ballycastle is no metropolis but they had a reputation for being too fond of the high stool over the past 20 years or so.

It has changed a bit in the past few years due to the job market - Glenariffe have definitely suffered and most Glens clubs would be in the same boat. No strength in depth for SHC.
not really true nowadays tony. We have cars, electric and everything now ya know.  ;)

I think I agree with what hs is hinting at. It comes down to how much work you want to put into it. And how much you want it.

Fcuk when did that happen? Next thing ya know you'll develop a sense of humour ;)

Tony, attitude and respect, those two things can make a standard senior team (Ballycastle lets say) into a contender, Rossa and the Johnnies have the tools they just need to f**king use them. Every club has high stools and dicks that sit on them, some of them come on here every so often and talk a lot of shite, get barred and come back ;)
I agree with you. It may be a cliche but success breeds success. When there is a winning mentality and silverware on display then there is a hunger for more and plenty of young fellas and subs champing at the bit to get a piece of the action. Galls, Loughgiel, Cross etc. don't have massive  pools to choose from but when there is a big Championship win then obviously any team will want to defend their trophy. The best teams might go on the rip for a while after a big Championship win and then they'll get back to preparations for the next one. Plenty of teams have let the celebrations go on too long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 26, 2014, 12:27:38 AM
I don't deny that there is logic in it.
It will (hopefully) give us more competitive games.
It will (hopefully) instill a winning mentality amongst players who have never won a championship match.
Potentially, we could (very hopefully) go beyond Antrim and Ulster and contest an All Ireland championship.

It could, however, make little difference to our overall goal of improvement, just like the Johnnies. We could return to senior at the same level that we exited it.

I think it did help St. John's.
As previously stated they were in division 2 when playing intermediate - they are now a safe division 1 team.
But I fail to see how staying in senior will help.

I suppose time will be the only answer!

Even if it gives the rest of us some ammunition for a bit of Rossa bashing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 02:18:47 AM
So, who's left in the senior championship?

Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendall,  St. John's, sarsfields , st galls, ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 02:40:48 AM
I take it clooney Gaels are able to stay in intermediate even tho they won it then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
Clooneys Gaels will be in Senior. If you win the ulster intermediate, you cannot play intermediate the following year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
Would like to wish all the best to Clooney Gaels and Creggan today. Real tough games for both. I expect Creggan will have the best chance to go through but you never know. Weather to keep scores down and with PJ able to get goals they might have a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 26, 2014, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
Would like to wish all the best to Clooney Gaels and Creggan today. Real tough games for both. I expect Creggan will have the best chance to go through but you never know. Weather to keep scores down and with PJ able to get goals they might have a chance.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 26, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Good luck Clooney Gaels and Creggan this afternoon. Fullan Gaels are a big strong outfit but they are beatable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 01:13:29 PM
Good luck to Clooney and Creggan. A big ask for both of them. PJ needs to have a great game for Clooney to have any chance, and Conor McCann needs to hit the net for Creggan. Give it a whirl, good luck!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
Yep. Good luck to both clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 01:45:15 PM
Creggan 2-03 1-06 Fullen Gaels at half time. In with a shout
On twitter somewhere?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 01:48:48 PM
Radio commentary on here at 2, though they are brutally biased

http://kclr96fm.com/livestream/kilkenny.php
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 01:48:56 PM
Yep on the @kickhamscreggan page. Score corrected to 2-02 to 1-06 now. And Creggan have the strong wind at their backs in 2nd half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 26, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
Creggan 2-6 Fullen 1-8 (Twitter) about 10 mins ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 26, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Creggan 4 up with 1 min of normal time left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: AQMP on January 26, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Creggan 4 up with 1 min of normal time left

5 now, well done Creggan thought they would have the best chance, Brilliant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 26, 2014, 02:19:36 PM
Creggan win though the boys on Twitter are too overcome to give the final score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 02:21:11 PM
Well done Creggan. Great result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 26, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
Creggan Kickhams 2-10 Fullen Gaels 1-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:22:20 PM
Creggan into the All Ireland Junior hurling final, not bad for a football club!! Well done lads, Hope Clooney make it also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on January 26, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
Excellent! Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:25:54 PM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 0-5

Some great goal line clearances by Clooney

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 02:33:20 PM
Brilliant for Creggan. Well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:33:30 PM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 0-6 half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:33:30 PM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 0-6 half time
thats some performance against a good solid team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 26, 2014, 02:42:56 PM
Seemingly Cloney playing with a decent breeze. Hope they hold out in second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 26, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
Clooneys Gaels will be in Senior. If you win the ulster intermediate, you cannot play intermediate the following year

If you win the Ulster intermediate you can't play Ulster intermediate series...doesn't stop them hurling Antrim intermediate championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 26, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 26, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
Clooneys Gaels will be in Senior. If you win the ulster intermediate, you cannot play intermediate the following year

If you win the Ulster intermediate you can't play Ulster intermediate series...doesn't stop them hurling Antrim intermediate championship.

True
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 02:51:48 PM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-8

Some turn around
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 03:15:41 PM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Clooney have had a tough second half, they would have needed goals to win but they have maybe one goal chance.

No disgrace and they will improve for next season for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
And it could get better, if Down beat Fingal this weekend in the Kehoe cup, which they'd be favourites for then they'd be due to play Kildare or someone else in the Kehoe cup semi-final the same day the Ulster council has decreed for the 2013 Ulster hurling final.

The Ulster council knew about it, yet went ahead and fixed it anyway!!

With the NHL looming for both counties the Ulster council don't want this dragging on, forget about it lads, its an non-redeemable situation, don't compound the initial mess by compounding it and further.

Johnny, I see your scenario has come to pass. And so it starts again . . . .

On a brighter note, congrats to Creggan on getting to the All Ireland Junior Final!

Commiserations to Clooney - certainly can be proud of their performance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 26, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 23, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
And it could get better, if Down beat Fingal this weekend in the Kehoe cup, which they'd be favourites for then they'd be due to play Kildare or someone else in the Kehoe cup semi-final the same day the Ulster council has decreed for the 2013 Ulster hurling final.

The Ulster council knew about it, yet went ahead and fixed it anyway!!

With the NHL looming for both counties the Ulster council don't want this dragging on, forget about it lads, its an non-redeemable situation, don't compound the initial mess by compounding it and further.

Johnny, I see your scenario has come to pass. And so it starts again . . . .

On a brighter note, congrats to Creggan on getting to the All Ireland Junior Final!

Commiserations to Clooney - certainly can be proud of their performance!

Yeah, all the eyes will be in Newry next, Rower Inistoge beat MLR in a warm up match recently so given that form and how Loughgiel did against Offaly the form book would give you confidence if you were from Loughgiel.

Ten point win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.

Wise up SiE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.

Wise up SiE.
what? Do the Kilkenny, Offaly, Wexford, Dublin teams not take part? Wise you up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 06:58:45 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8YlPMHCn3SEC5QY_6cjyzFDcC6VS8i7wp7QgmV72NDYyDS8NnKQ)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.

Wise up SiE.
what? Do the Kilkenny, Offaly, Wexford, Dublin teams not take part? Wise you up.

If you want to play it cool and be understated fine - but let's not go there with making them favourites. Check any bookmakers. Enough said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.

Wise up SiE.
what? Do the Kilkenny, Offaly, Wexford, Dublin teams not take part? Wise you up.

If you want to play it cool and be understated fine - but let's not go there with making them favourites. Check any bookmakers. Enough said.
as I've stated before, I'm not a gambler. Would there be more than a couple of points in the handicap?  I'd be surprised if there is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
It'll not be 10 points mr2. It'll be a lot closer than you and several others give them credit for. Their work rate is phenominal. They're a tough team. Hence the leinster title lads. I'd make them slight favourites considering the opposition they've beaten to get here.

Wise up SiE.
what? Do the Kilkenny, Offaly, Wexford, Dublin teams not take part? Wise you up.

If you want to play it cool and be understated fine - but let's not go there with making them favourites. Check any bookmakers. Enough said.
as I've stated before, I'm not a gambler. Would there be more than a couple of points in the handicap?  I'd be surprised if there is.

2 points, free money, I'll be sticking the left over money from my winning bet from yesterday on it, £40, that will pay the rest of the stag weekend off. Honestly this will be a hammering session
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:10:57 PM
I think the margin of victory will depend on the weather.
Are we allowed to support your lads yet SiE?
I jest!

The ulster final just keeps getting more embarrassing although I doubt the salaried officers give a damn. Probably laughing at the hurling fraternity again. Why even fix that game when JC could have advised them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:10:57 PM
I think the margin of victory will depend on the weather.
Are we allowed to support your lads yet SiE?
I jest!

The ulster final just keeps getting more embarrassing although I doubt the salaried officers give a damn. Probably laughing at the hurling fraternity again. Why even fix that game when JC could have advised them!
we'd love support from the whole county. I think the true hurling supporters would be supporting us alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:28:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:10:57 PM
I think the margin of victory will depend on the weather.
Are we allowed to support your lads yet SiE?
I jest!

The ulster final just keeps getting more embarrassing although I doubt the salaried officers give a damn. Probably laughing at the hurling fraternity again. Why even fix that game when JC could have advised them!
we'd love support from the whole county. I think the true hurling supporters would be supporting us alright.

I think the whole county will be supporting you.
Unless they're from cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
Ok and maybe ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
Ok and maybe ballycastle.

Dunloy.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 08:01:37 PM
As it goes I happen to have friends in all said places and they're all hurling people. I go to matches with them sometimes. A couple of them would be wanting us to win, as for the other one. He's from cushendall.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
Who looks after that Creggan team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Yer man McCann. Has 2 sons on the team. Has been the force behind Creggan Hurling for years, he more than most deserves a day in the sun. Fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Yer man McCann. Has 2 sons on the team. Has been the force behind Creggan Hurling for years, he more than most deserves a day in the sun. Fair play.

Brilliant, refereed them this year in Championship and they played a great brand of hurling, well above the standard that was on show that day.

Was impressed with their center players, fullback right through to FF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Yer man McCann. Has 2 sons on the team. Has been the force behind Creggan Hurling for years, he more than most deserves a day in the sun. Fair play.

Home town/parish affair all round then?
Fair play is right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 26, 2014, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 26, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Yer man McCann. Has 2 sons on the team. Has been the force behind Creggan Hurling for years, he more than most deserves a day in the sun. Fair play.

Brilliant, refereed them this year in Championship and they played a great brand of hurling, well above the standard that was on show that day.

Was impressed with their center players, fullback right through to FF
i saw the second half of the junior final against the Emmetts in ballycastle.  I'd say the team work is above par for junior level to be honest. And ability as well. Fair play to them. Hope they win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 27, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
was at the ahoghill match yesterday. didnt play at all. winning by a point at half time with a strong breeze i knew they would be in bother. never scored in the second half which was disappointing for them. never gave up the entire match which was a credit to them all.

heard yday from a Rower supporter that they beat Mount Leinster last week in a friendly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 27, 2014, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 27, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
was at the ahoghill match yesterday. didnt play at all. winning by a point at half time with a strong breeze i knew they would be in bother. never scored in the second half which was disappointing for them. never gave up the entire match which was a credit to them all.

heard yday from a Rower supporter that they beat Mount Leinster last week in a friendly.
aye. I mentioned that last week. Beat them 2-16 to 0-16.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 27, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 27, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
was at the ahoghill match yesterday. didnt play at all. winning by a point at half time with a strong breeze i knew they would be in bother. never scored in the second half which was disappointing for them. never gave up the entire match which was a credit to them all.

heard yday from a Rower supporter that they beat Mount Leinster last week in a friendly.

Clooney look a decent side, the best match I seen last year was the Antrim intermediate final, two good teams. be interesting to see how Clooney get on in the senior championship this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 27, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 27, 2014, 08:46:42 AM
was at the ahoghill match yesterday. didnt play at all. winning by a point at half time with a strong breeze i knew they would be in bother. never scored in the second half which was disappointing for them. never gave up the entire match which was a credit to them all.

heard yday from a Rower supporter that they beat Mount Leinster last week in a friendly.

Clooney look a decent side, the best match I seen last year was the Antrim intermediate final, two good teams. be interesting to see how Clooney get on in the senior championship this year.

On their day they would beat, us and Sarsfields. Against the other teams they would struggle. Hard working physical team. I like their attitude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.

Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.

Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol

Sorry!  was more worried about expressing support.  "Some" sham might read it as "I hope you get tanked"!!   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.

Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol

Sorry!  was more worried about expressing support.  "Some" sham might read it as "I hope you get tanked"!!   ;D

This quote will be stuck up on the Newry dressing room door, "even the Ballycastle wans want us beat lads!!!" siege mentality ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 27, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
C'mon the shamrocks....

I might even take a run down to see you in action (provided the bloody ferry boat is on)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 27, 2014, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol

(http://data6.blog.de/media/149/5094149_d5ce6401f4_m.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 27, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Antrim championship draws will take place next Monday 3rd Feb at Dunsilly. Starting to feel like hurling season again. Wish the CCC would hurry up and get the league fixtures out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 27, 2014, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 27, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Antrim championship draws will take place next Monday 4th Feb at a Dunsilly. Starting to feel like hurling season again. Wish the CCC would hurry up and get the league fixtures out.

Don't be holding your breath for that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
And whatever you do don't ask the county website moderator!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Yip. I mind going to watch my club play in those indoor tournament when they started around 2000/2001 and he was in charge of their underage set up then. Some committment to the club, I guess that's the beauty of the GAA. Would be super to see them go ahead and complete the job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:47:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Yip. I mind going to watch my club play in those indoor tournament when they started around 2000/2001 and he was in charge of their underage set up then. Some committment to the club, I guess that's the beauty of the GAA. Would be super to see them go ahead and complete the job.

Hasn't been done before, Clooney got to final few years ago and now they are playing senior championship next year, would put a spanner in the works of the football team in Creggan or would it be able to work along side them? They have a few dual players in that team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 27, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!

Car crash this morning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on January 27, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!

Car crash this morning

Road deaths up and down Ireland at the minute is getting out of control ffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 27, 2014, 03:17:06 PM
People, especially young ones, think they're invincible.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 27, 2014, 04:18:12 PM
Very sad indeed. RIP
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gaa-referee-shane-hourigan-killed-in-car-crash-leaving-sporting-community-devastated-29952860.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
That is very sad. The rate of road deaths in Ireland is shocking - for whatever reason this year they are through the roof.

Well done to Creggan. Good to see another antrim club in the final. Hopefully be two in a few weeks and good to see the less "traditional" area of the south west have some success in the hurling. They have had a few county players this last few years so must be doing something right in developing their hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2014, 05:08:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!

Much to my annoyance!
I have often said i would like to see naomh gall commit fully to a sustained effort in hurling and I think they could have an impact.
Although it's hard to argue the case looking at the success of the big ball - and it goes without saying they can be done to the max together.

This will be the challenge that meet a Creggan altho hopefully after AI success!

All seems somewhat insignificant as we look at another death affecting our association. We love travelling the miles between parishes and chalking off place names but some pay the ultimate price. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!


Like quite a few clubs. Pity as St Galls seem to have a lot of talent. Much coming through?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
No reason it couldn't happen to them. Not sure of the amount dual players on that team. Did it not happen a few years back in your club MR2?

Awful news about the ref of the Ahoghill game yesterday, passed away this morning.

Didn't hear about that, that's terrible, heart attack? Was listening to the game yesterday and by all accounts was having a decent game. Ya never know the minute ffs

We are a bit of a yo yo club, paddy, we'll compete for a few seasons then drop down, there are plenty like us. You can sustain it for a few seasons while everyone is on a high but if the talent isn't coming through it eventually goes back to being mainly a one code club that does hurling on the side!!


Like quite a few clubs. Pity as St Galls seem to have a lot of talent. Much coming through?

Not for a few years, we won Nipper quinn last year (under12) and we have a team before them and decent under 10 team, that's what we are at. Very young committed senior team who'll get their chance to cut their teeth against the big boys this year and to be fair to them they have trained hard so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Always hard with a young team against more experienced opposition. Be interesting to see how they fare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 27, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Always hard with a young team against more experienced opposition. Be interesting to see how they fare.

Aye plenty of the old hands still about, believe the McGourty's are playing this year and Karl, Aidso, Mackers, Austin, Burkey and co so good blend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 28, 2014, 07:17:10 AM
Experience counts for a whole lot at that level. They could suprise a few lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 28, 2014, 08:55:39 AM
would love to see more clubs compete in the senior hurling championship. with cloughmills and Cloney now competing in it we should be encouring more clubs to compete in it. work it like KK or Tipp with a losers section where the bottom team gets put back down into the intermediate championship.

cloney and creggan are doing great work at hurling and they should be encouraged to push on and become senior hurling clubs. too many clubs accept what they are and are happy to compete at lower levels just about doing enough.

lgiel set a standard in antrim and we all compete to be as good as them. we have to match that and the likes of ourselves and cdall, ballycastle, st johns etc have all upped our games to try and match it. im looking forward to this coming season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on January 29, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 29, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
Don't forget Dermot Carey's work in those early/mid noughties (forget the fella along with him)

T McCann has done tireless work there at all levels  it has to be said

Good emphasis on skill development in Creggan at juvenile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
Don't forget Dermot Carey's work in those early/mid noughties (forget the fella along with him)

T McCann has done tireless work there at all levels  it has to be said

Good emphasis on skill development in Creggan at juvenile

Yes they also won a few B grade juvenile championships and won them well. Would (in hurling anyways) Creggan and Tir Na Og be an amalgamation idea?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 29, 2014, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: CSC on January 29, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers

Unfortunately the higher the level the hurling goes - the more demands are necessary.
This inevitabley encroaches into football.
Where is the compromise between the fire fighter and the arsonist?
One has to give - or they both will.
Ask MR2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2014, 08:17:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 29, 2014, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: CSC on January 29, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
Ref Creggan - Dual Club

The big issue here lads is Antrim's scheduling of games.

At underage, Creggan have been successful at combining both codes with limited resources, because N Antrim & SW Antrim do a great job in ensuring the nights for the various grades don't clash

At senior level, it is more difficult as clashes always happen.

Creggan is a predominantly football club, with more kids attracted to football due to various reasons. So if CCC fixture scheduling enables us to run both teams without clashing then hurling will continue to grow.

The Creggan area has always had an interest in hurling. Growing up (early - mid 80's)  a Belfast man (Damion Graham) restarted hurling in the club for U8 -U14 and he really got the hurling interest flowing.

We fielded our first senior team in the SW Antrim hurling championship and N Antrim leagues in the early 90's and finally a team in the Antrim leagues in the mid-late 90's.

Paul O'Neill & Tommy kickstarted youth hurling again in the late 90's early 00's, but the club was better suited to long term success as we had more coaches available,  (part of this was down to guys who hurled a bit in the 80's) but we also had a senior team where the players could grad. onto.

So it has taken the club about 30 years to get to this point.
Realistically however, we will remain an intermediate / Junior team for the nexts few years simply due to numbers

Unfortunately the higher the level oh hurling goes - the more demands are necessary.
This inevitable encroaches into football.
Where is the compromise between the fire fighter and the arsonist?
One has to give - or they both will.
Ask MR2!

I'm a patient man, I'm here for the long haul, hopefully we will get a go at it again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on January 30, 2014, 04:25:28 PM
Years ago, (50's - 60's) I understand that Antrim had a process of "Winter Football leagues" and "Summer Hurling Leagues"

At that time Creggan supported hurling as there was no clash.

Maybe Antrim need to think "outside of the box" and come up with a phased calender.

This works in the US, Fall/Winter - Football, hockey, basketball, indoor athletics, Spring Summer - Soccer, Lacross, athletics

I honesty believe that this would be the best system.Radical change, but it would work
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 30, 2014, 09:08:23 PM
Quote from: CSC on January 30, 2014, 04:25:28 PM
Years ago, (50's - 60's) I understand that Antrim had a process of "Winter Football leagues" and "Summer Hurling Leagues"

At that time Creggan supported hurling as there was no clash.

Maybe Antrim need to think "outside of the box" and come up with a phased calender.

This works in the US, Fall/Winter - Football, hockey, basketball, indoor athletics, Spring Summer - Soccer, Lacross, athletics

I honesty believe that this would be the best system.Radical change, but it would work

Genius. I wish this happened!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bealfeirste on February 02, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
Pitches wouldn't hold out unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stibhan on February 02, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Sorry lads but if you think that makes any sense you are mental. Going back to a calendar in the 1950's to solve a problem regarding dual players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on February 03, 2014, 04:54:57 AM
Ref Stibhan,

Not looking to the 50's for a solution. But if you look at the core principles that the county used in the 50's / 60's, was basically founding on the recognition that we have two sports that we need to manage, and they came up with a structure to support clubs competing in both sports.

At the moment, it is a numbers game, getting leagues completed, in the little amount of time available once you account for county team schedules.

Antrim need to come up with an innovative solution around scheduling so teams like Creggan, Tir an Nog, Dunloy, Rasharkin, Ballymena, Glenraval and the city clubs can support both codes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
Quote from: stibhan on February 02, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Sorry lads but if you think that makes any sense you are mental. Going back to a calendar in the 1950's to solve a problem regarding dual players?

It works perfectly if you don't care much for football!

True that the pitches wouldn't allow for a great season of football - but strictly hurling folk wouldn't care at all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:30:10 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 03, 2014, 09:27:28 AM
Play the hurling in the winter and football in the summer......

Jezzze lads its Antrim, like f**king winter all year round ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 03, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
The Antrim championship draws are taking place tonight at the Dunsilly hotel. Will give us something to think about anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Loughgiel v Naomh Gall
Dunloy V Sarsfields
Ballycastle v Clooney Gaels
Cushendall v St Johns

Venues to be confirmed-- Lamhs and Ballycastle grounds for the games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 03, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Loughgiel v Naomh Gall
Dunloy V Sarsfields
Ballycastle v Clooney Gaels
Cushendall v St Johns

Venues to be confirmed-- Lamhs and Ballycastle grounds for the games

Where you sticking Cloughmills in that draw Milltown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
I didn't realise they were going to play this year, They got a bye ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Loughgiel v Naomh Gall
Dunloy V Sarsfields
Ballycastle v Clooney Gaels
Cushendall v St Johns

Venues to be confirmed-- Lamhs and Ballycastle grounds for the games
Like the look of that Ballycastle v Clooney match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 01:44:42 PM
Would like to see this:

Group 1Loughgiel v Cushendall
Group 2 Ballycastle V Dunloy

Winners play in semi final

Group 3 Naomh Gall v Gaels, Winners play Cloughmills
Group 4 St Johns v Sarsfields

Winners play in semi final

St Johns v Loughgiel final

That's that sorted.

Football Cargin v Naomh Gall  in Belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 03, 2014, 01:56:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 01:44:42 PM
Would like to see this:

Group 1Loughgiel v Cushendall
Group 2 Ballycastle V Dunloy

Winners play in semi final

Group 3 Naomh Gall v Gaels, Winners play Cloughmills
Group 4 St Johns v Sarsfields

Winners play in semi final

St Johns v Loughgiel final

That's that sorted.

Football Cargin v Naomh Gall  in Belfast

Lol your not looking much!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 02:02:22 PM
Well that could happen if the draw goes that way, though I doubt it very very much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 03, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 03, 2014, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Loughgiel v Naomh Gall
Dunloy V Sarsfields
Ballycastle v Clooney Gaels
Cushendall v St Johns

Venues to be confirmed-- Lamhs and Ballycastle grounds for the games

Where you sticking Cloughmills in that draw Milltown?


I thought the biddies were in intermediate this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
Reserve Championship draw 2014:

1. St Galls v McQuillans,
2. Loughgiel v Cushendall,
3. St Johns v Ballygalget
4.Dunloy v Portaferry

Semi 2 v 3, 1.v 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:19:58 PM
u21 draw;

1 Gort na mona v Rasharkin
2 St Kevins v loughgiel
3 st Galls v Rossa

1/4 finals

A 2 v Belfast Gaels
B 3 v Johnnies
C Ballycastle v Cushendall
D Dunloy v 1

Semi final

C v A

D v B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Senior draw

Prelim: Loughgiel v Johnnies

1/4 finals

A Cloughmills vs Sarsfields
B Dunloy vs Ballycastle
C Cushendall vs prelim
D Clooney vs St Galls

semis

A v D

C v B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:24:40 PM
Wide open this year lads.   ;)

One out of St Galls, Clooney, Cloughmills and sarsfields will be in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:24:40 PM
Wide open this year lads.   ;)

One out of St Galls, Clooney, Cloughmills and sarsfields will be in the final.
Youse will get the Dall out of the road early this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:24:40 PM
Wide open this year lads.   ;)

One out of St Galls, Clooney, Cloughmills and sarsfields will be in the final.
Youse will get the Dall out of the road early this year.
They're the early favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
Jesus such a draw.    :o hard going for us doing 5.  St galls sitting in the final if they put in the work
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 03, 2014, 09:03:24 PM
MR2 you were not far off lol. Guaranteed to have one of Clooney, Cloughmills, Sarsfields or St Galls in the Senior championship final this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 03, 2014, 09:03:24 PM
MR2 you were not far off lol. Guaranteed to have one of Clooney, Cloughmills, Sarsfields or St Galls in the Senior championship final this year.

I told ya, will be a bitta craic, Our lads and the others will be going hammer and tongs now, out 5 days a week!!!, I'll be back training this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.
Aye it's a tasty draw for those outside the usual 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.

My phone hasn't stopped lol, should be a massive incentive to the likes of ourselves and the other lesser teams, because that's what we are in fairness but if one of those teams gets to a final by fcuk they won't give a dam who they meet in the final, for one of those teams to get to a county final will mean the world and actually generate a new generation of kids looking to hurl for their clubs.

Great draw, could not have picked it better myself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.

My phone hasn't stopped lol, should be a massive incentive to the likes of ourselves and the other lesser teams, because that's what we are in fairness but if one of those teams gets to a final by fcuk they won't give a dam who they meet in the final, for one of those teams to get to a county final will mean the world and actually generate a new generation of kids looking to hurl for their clubs.

Great draw, could not have picked it better myself
fix?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.

My phone hasn't stopped lol, should be a massive incentive to the likes of ourselves and the other lesser teams, because that's what we are in fairness but if one of those teams gets to a final by fcuk they won't give a dam who they meet in the final, for one of those teams to get to a county final will mean the world and actually generate a new generation of kids looking to hurl for their clubs.

Great draw, could not have picked it better myself
fix?  ;)

I couldn't have fixed it beter  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.

My phone hasn't stopped lol, should be a massive incentive to the likes of ourselves and the other lesser teams, because that's what we are in fairness but if one of those teams gets to a final by fcuk they won't give a dam who they meet in the final, for one of those teams to get to a county final will mean the world and actually generate a new generation of kids looking to hurl for their clubs.

Great draw, could not have picked it better myself
fix?  ;)
It is a nice change  ;D Let's be positive for once. As Milltown says whoever play Loughgiel in the final will feel like a winner too. That will be a big day out for someone. Would be some craic if it was Cloughmills!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2014, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 03, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
Great incentive for the 'lesser' teams. Certainly creating a bit of buzz.

My phone hasn't stopped lol, should be a massive incentive to the likes of ourselves and the other lesser teams, because that's what we are in fairness but if one of those teams gets to a final by fcuk they won't give a dam who they meet in the final, for one of those teams to get to a county final will mean the world and actually generate a new generation of kids looking to hurl for their clubs.

Great draw, could not have picked it better myself
fix?  ;)
It is a nice change  ;D Let's be positive for once. As Milltown says whoever play Loughgiel in the final will feel like a winner too. That will be a big day out for someone. Would be some craic if it was Cloughmills!

Bar Sarsfields the rest haven't been in a final before so amazing for any of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 03, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Senior draw

Prelim: Loughgiel v Johnnies

1/4 finals

A Cloughmills vs Sarsfields
B Dunloy vs Ballycastle
C Cushendall vs prelim
D Clooney vs St Galls

semis

A v D

C v B

Does anyone have any clue of dates for these as yet? Even rough dates for preliminary, then 1/4, 1/2 etc. Thought they kicked off a bit late last year?

Great draw for your boys MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 03, 2014, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Senior draw

Prelim: Loughgiel v Johnnies

1/4 finals

A Cloughmills vs Sarsfields
B Dunloy vs Ballycastle
C Cushendall vs prelim
D Clooney vs St Galls

semis

A v D

C v B

Does anyone have any clue of dates for these as yet? Even rough dates for preliminary, then 1/4, 1/2 etc. Thought they kicked off a bit late last year?

Great draw for your boys MR2.

Yes and the rest Clooney should have beaten us last year, I got a lot of stick when I refereed the game as the referee was injured before game, they pushed us all the way. No way would the management take that game for granted and if lucky enough not semi final either, what it will do is give the lads training away a boost
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
I don't think the dates came out until march/ April last year.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 03, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 03, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
I don't think the dates came out until march/ April last year.  :-\

And I probably ask the same question at the same time every year!! Would just like to be able to plan the championship viewing.

Don't envy the CCC but fixtures should be out...certainly weekends of championship etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 03, 2014, 11:07:06 PM
Just been told by a reliable source that the preliminary rounds and quarter finals of all championships are home venue to first out of the hat. A big advantage to the home team IMO. A few good games in the intermediate championship as well. Will Creggan be all Ireland Junior champions when they go to play Carey, in Carey? Glenariff and Rossa in opposite sides of the draw

Preliminary:
1. Randalstown V Lamh Dhearg
2. Carey V Creggan
3. Cushendun V St Paul's

1/4 Finals:
A. Rossa V St Endas
B. Armoy V winner 3
C. Gortnamona V Glenariff
D. Winner 1 v winner 2

Semi Finals:
D v A
C v B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2014, 11:24:08 PM
Delighted with the draw!
A real chance for a city team and mostly the galls to make the final!
Mr2 maybe this is the long awaited spark needed for milltown to take hurling seriously!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 03, 2014, 11:49:59 PM
What was jhc draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 04, 2014, 12:08:01 AM
JHC
Prelim:
St Theresa v Rasharkin

Semis:
Winner Prelim v Glenarm
Winner JHC B v St Agnes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 04, 2014, 08:54:46 AM
have to say when i got a text last night with the full draw i had to do a double check at it and the first thing i said was christ one of those four on the other side will be in the final this year!

i think its a great draw. we have a hell of a tough draw if we want to win it, same as the dall, lgiel etc. but if thats how we have to do it then so be it :)

my mate from Cloney is completly estatic at the draw, and rightly so. exciting games for all our clubs this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...

It needs to be raised, I know if our lads put the effort in and are lucky to progress they will be fit and strong. Skill levels will need to improve but they are working hard on that, Clooney are improving every year Sarsfields have a great wee under 21 team from a couple years ago filling their senior ranks, Cloughmills will have come on from their experience from last year.

None of these teams should they get to the final will want to fail badly in front of everyone, and they couldn't do any worse than last years final  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 04, 2014, 10:20:11 AM
Its a great draw with a few big games up the country with big crowds to get the championship going really early.

There's kind of a separate championship going on in the other side for the right to a big day out.

Crossing bridges very early here but would a one-sided final result in a request for seeding in future? Not that I'm against it as I've said before I would like to see the league finish - and standing used to seed championship. Thereby increasing the competitiveness of both competitions.

Thats said - great to see the energy floating around the clubs this morning as they have one eye on county final day! A real shot in the arms for the four teams with a massive chance to make their season and indeed careers for making a county final they never thought possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 04, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...

It needs to be raised, I know if our lads put the effort in and are lucky to progress they will be fit and strong. Skill levels will need to improve but they are working hard on that, Clooney are improving every year Sarsfields have a great wee under 21 team from a couple years ago filling their senior ranks, Cloughmills will have come on from their experience from last year.

None of these teams should they get to the final will want to fail badly in front of everyone, and they couldn't do any worse than last years final  ;D ;D
your a bad man MR2  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 04, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
There might very well be a cry for seeding in future - but this is what championship has always been about. The luck of the draw and being the best - come what may!
The league has already been engineered so that the strong get stronger and the rest get ignored ie splitting the league in two at the halfway stage. The only reason the All Ireland championship has evolved the way it has is to generate more money for HQ. It provides great entertainment but you can, and often do, have champions who have been beaten at some point in the championship season. So are they really champions?

The Antrim hurling championship is, in my opinion, the best club hurling championship in the country. It has taken a serious twist this year and we're all going to be in for a good summer. Lets hope those that come through the "other side of the draw" do so with raw hunger and give it a real go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 04, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...

It needs to be raised, I know if our lads put the effort in and are lucky to progress they will be fit and strong. Skill levels will need to improve but they are working hard on that, Clooney are improving every year Sarsfields have a great wee under 21 team from a couple years ago filling their senior ranks, Cloughmills will have come on from their experience from last year.

None of these teams should they get to the final will want to fail badly in front of everyone, and they couldn't do any worse than last years final  ;D ;D
your a bad man MR2  ;D

Sure it's just a larf!!  Wish i was 10 years younger ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 04, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 04, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...

It needs to be raised, I know if our lads put the effort in and are lucky to progress they will be fit and strong. Skill levels will need to improve but they are working hard on that, Clooney are improving every year Sarsfields have a great wee under 21 team from a couple years ago filling their senior ranks, Cloughmills will have come on from their experience from last year.

None of these teams should they get to the final will want to fail badly in front of everyone, and they couldn't do any worse than last years final  ;D ;D
your a bad man MR2  ;D

Sure it's just a larf!!  Wish i was 10 years younger ffs

ha fecking ha  :'(  :'(    ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
Quote from: Megaman on February 04, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 04, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 10:16:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 04, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Wait to you see the whinging come the final  :)

Thinks its an exciting draw. I really hope the teams on the A and D sections try to get get their standards up. If that's achieved in the medium term as result of such a lop sided draw then, I'd take it every year. At the end of the day from the top teams perspective, you have to beat the best to be the best so...

It needs to be raised, I know if our lads put the effort in and are lucky to progress they will be fit and strong. Skill levels will need to improve but they are working hard on that, Clooney are improving every year Sarsfields have a great wee under 21 team from a couple years ago filling their senior ranks, Cloughmills will have come on from their experience from last year.

None of these teams should they get to the final will want to fail badly in front of everyone, and they couldn't do any worse than last years final  ;D ;D
your a bad man MR2  ;D

Sure it's just a larf!!  Wish i was 10 years younger ffs

ha fecking ha  :'(  :'(    ;)

If last years final is anything to go by we all have to raise our standards, joking aside I think all the big teams will raise them including Loughgiel, should Loughgiel get to the final (and they will) they will raise it further again, can't be a bad thing, may impact on the county with clubs pushing hard for tough early encounters!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on February 04, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
A great draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
First round weekend  of 31 Aug
Semi 14th Sept
Final 28th Sept
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 04, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 04, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
There might very well be a cry for seeding in future - but this is what championship has always been about. The luck of the draw and being the best - come what may!
The league has already been engineered so that the strong get stronger and the rest get ignored ie splitting the league in two at the halfway stage. The only reason the All Ireland championship has evolved the way it has is to generate more money for HQ. It provides great entertainment but you can, and often do, have champions who have been beaten at some point in the championship season. So are they really champions?

The Antrim hurling championship is, in my opinion, the best club hurling championship in the country. It has taken a serious twist this year and we're all going to be in for a good summer. Lets hope those that come through the "other side of the draw" do so with raw hunger and give it a real go.


The county hurling championship has been unofficially seeded for too long protecting the status quo and barring the odd exception the perceived best four teams in the county meeting in the semi final each year. Two exceptions which spring to mind was cushendun in 2000 and Galls in 2011. The draw has been all to predictable in recent years and not allowed for the so called weaker teams to dream of a final.

I'm not advocating a draw aimed at aiding the weaker teams just a fair draw like this 1, where the stronger teams may have to play each other from round 1  and vise versa. Just a shame Rossa dropped down before this, or did the county set this up..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 04, 2014, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
First round weekend  of 31 Aug
Semi 14th Sept
Final 28th Sept

Why do they do that! 2 weeks between matches is ideal but how often do we have matches postponed, drawn then you've football championships for 6 of the 9 teams competing!

Why not include a bit of wriggle room, give 3 weeks between games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 04, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
First round weekend  of 31 Aug
Semi 14th Sept
Final 28th Sept

Definite? Set in stone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 04, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
First round weekend  of 31 Aug
Semi 14th Sept
Final 28th Sept

Definite? Set in stone?

That's what I heard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 04, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 04, 2014, 06:49:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 04:18:46 PM
First round weekend  of 31 Aug
Semi 14th Sept
Final 28th Sept

Definite? Set in stone?

That's what I heard

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 04, 2014, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 04, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 04, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
There might very well be a cry for seeding in future - but this is what championship has always been about. The luck of the draw and being the best - come what may!
The league has already been engineered so that the strong get stronger and the rest get ignored ie splitting the league in two at the halfway stage. The only reason the All Ireland championship has evolved the way it has is to generate more money for HQ. It provides great entertainment but you can, and often do, have champions who have been beaten at some point in the championship season. So are they really champions?

The Antrim hurling championship is, in my opinion, the best club hurling championship in the country. It has taken a serious twist this year and we're all going to be in for a good summer. Lets hope those that come through the "other side of the draw" do so with raw hunger and give it a real go.


The county hurling championship has been unofficially seeded for too long protecting the status quo and barring the odd exception the perceived best four teams in the county meeting in the semi final each year. Two exceptions which spring to mind was cushendun in 2000 and Galls in 2011. The draw has been all to predictable in recent years and not allowed for the so called weaker teams to dream of a final.

I'm not advocating a draw aimed at aiding the weaker teams just a fair draw like this 1, where the stronger teams may have to play each other from round 1  and vise versa. Just a shame Rossa dropped down before this, or did the county set this up..... ;D ;D

What?
Nonsense!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 05, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
Who is in the Junior B?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
theres never been a seeding at anytime in the championship. sure we have played Ballycastle, Lgiel etc at various stages in the championship since ive been a kid. the first year we won it we played cdall, st johns, ballycastle and rossa. theres never been seeding ever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
All go for the games this weekend, weather wise?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
All go for the games this weekend, weather wise?
Ivhaven't heard anything different. The lads were down training on it last weekend and said that it was in good nick considering the rain that has been as past while. No matter what rain comes the rest of the week it's a better playing surface than Parnell all day long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
All go for the games this weekend, weather wise?
Ivhaven't heard anything different. The lads were down training on it last weekend and said that it was in good nick considering the rain that has been as past while. No matter what rain comes the rest of the week it's a better playing surface than Parnell all day long.

Well I'll be down to to cheer ya on, -3 seems very generous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
Creggan have been up against it and have come up trumps in each game, this team will be as tough as the last so I feel they are in with a shout to win this at the weekend. Hope they do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2014, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
All go for the games this weekend, weather wise?
Ivhaven't heard anything different. The lads were down training on it last weekend and said that it was in good nick considering the rain that has been as past while. No matter what rain comes the rest of the week it's a better playing surface than Parnell all day long.

Well I'll be down to to cheer ya on, -3 seems very generous
you ever see a poor bookie? It will be a lot tighter than a lot of people are making out, I fancy us winning.   But I'd imagine there will be no generosity going   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2014, 01:47:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2014, 09:04:23 AM
All go for the games this weekend, weather wise?
Ivhaven't heard anything different. The lads were down training on it last weekend and said that it was in good nick considering the rain that has been as past while. No matter what rain comes the rest of the week it's a better playing surface than Parnell all day long.

Well I'll be down to to cheer ya on, -3 seems very generous
you ever see a poor bookie? It will be a lot tighter than a lot of people are making out, I fancy us winning.   But I'd imagine there will be no generosity going   

No but I'd like to see a poor bookie ;) Listen if Loughgiel worry about their own game and keep the intensity for both half (which the do) then we'll be meeting yous come the 28 Sept ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Don't be getting ahead of ourselves MR2. Lol.   One game at a time:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Don't be getting ahead of ourselves MR2. Lol.   One game at a time:)

Ha I'm piss taking as usual, again good luck on Saturday.

This was the scene at our first training session after the draw was made

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIaw48R7mXPqFlXLcWUBZSexm2sqeTRcgfBdEwI7_Fgr-ya7Iq)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 05, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
Looking forward to Saturday immensely.  I've watched our lads a few times in warm up games and they are going well, Saturday will obviousy be a step up though.

MLR will be a very hungry team and I think they will be hard to stop.  I fully expect only a couple of points to separate the sides in the last 15.  Hopefully we can get over the line.

The 2014 Championship draw is a great one in my opinion.  Seems to have generated quite a buzz from every corner.  Massive opportunity for Galls, Sars, Biddies or Clooney to reach a Senior final.  Whilst they wouldn't be favourites to win, as some one else has mentioned it would provide a massive boost for their club years and ambition/ development of young players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 05, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
Looking forward to Saturday immensely.  I've watched our lads a few times in warm up games and they are going well, Saturday will obviousy be a step up though.

MLR will be a very hungry team and I think they will be hard to stop.  I fully expect only a couple of points to separate the sides in the last 15.  Hopefully we can get over the line.

The 2014 Championship draw is a great one in my opinion.  Seems to have generated quite a buzz from every corner.  Massive opportunity for Galls, Sars, Biddies or Clooney to reach a Senior final.  Whilst they wouldn't be favourites to win, as some one else has mentioned it would provide a massive boost for their club years and ambition/ development of young players.

Saturday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 05, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 05, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
Looking forward to Saturday immensely.  I've watched our lads a few times in warm up games and they are going well, Saturday will obviousy be a step up though.

MLR will be a very hungry team and I think they will be hard to stop.  I fully expect only a couple of points to separate the sides in the last 15.  Hopefully we can get over the line.

The 2014 Championship draw is a great one in my opinion.  Seems to have generated quite a buzz from every corner.  Massive opportunity for Galls, Sars, Biddies or Clooney to reach a Senior final.  Whilst they wouldn't be favourites to win, as some one else has mentioned it would provide a massive boost for their club years and ambition/ development of young players.

Saturday?
indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 05, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 05, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
Looking forward to Saturday immensely.  I've watched our lads a few times in warm up games and they are going well, Saturday will obviousy be a step up though.

MLR will be a very hungry team and I think they will be hard to stop.  I fully expect only a couple of points to separate the sides in the last 15.  Hopefully we can get over the line.

The 2014 Championship draw is a great one in my opinion.  Seems to have generated quite a buzz from every corner.  Massive opportunity for Galls, Sars, Biddies or Clooney to reach a Senior final.  Whilst they wouldn't be favourites to win, as some one else has mentioned it would provide a massive boost for their club years and ambition/ development of young players.

Saturday?
indeed.

Canal Court do a fine mixed grill, good enough reason to go down on the Saturday evening and partake in the fruits Newry has to offer before the big game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2014, 06:09:58 PM
Lads, you do know the loughgiel match is on Saturday at 3?   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
Green light from that wench - I will be in newry from 1pm.
Good luck the shamrocks! And I mean it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 05, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 05, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
theres never been a seeding at anytime in the championship. sure we have played Ballycastle, Lgiel etc at various stages in the championship since ive been a kid. the first year we won it we played cdall, st johns, ballycastle and rossa. theres never been seeding ever.


If you look at championship fixtures over the past 20 years, there were not many occasions that the perceived top 4 teams met at semi final stage, yes you may have had ballycastle or St. John's  and then dall but the first two would not have been top 4. Late 90's and early 2000's Rosas were seen as number 4 and doing so usually got to a few semi finals apart from ballycastle doing then on a few occasions and cushedun once.

Look can you not agree that on the majority of draws the top 4 were kept apart hence the shock and excitement at this draw. Who was last years semi final pairing? And the previous 4, just for instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2014, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 05, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 05, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
theres never been a seeding at anytime in the championship. sure we have played Ballycastle, Lgiel etc at various stages in the championship since ive been a kid. the first year we won it we played cdall, st johns, ballycastle and rossa. theres never been seeding ever.


If you look at championship fixtures over the past 20 years, there were not many occasions that the perceived top 4 teams met at semi final stage, yes you may have had ballycastle or St. John's  and then dall but the first two would not have been top 4. Late 90's and early 2000's Rosas were seen as number 4 and doing so usually got to a few semi finals apart from ballycastle doing then on a few occasions and cushedun once.

Look can you not agree that on the majority of draws the top 4 were kept apart hence the shock and excitement at this draw. Who was last years semi final pairing? And the previous 4, just for instance.

I'm just not getting this argument at all?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 05, 2014, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 05, 2014, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 05, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 05, 2014, 08:45:50 AM
theres never been a seeding at anytime in the championship. sure we have played Ballycastle, Lgiel etc at various stages in the championship since ive been a kid. the first year we won it we played cdall, st johns, ballycastle and rossa. theres never been seeding ever.


If you look at championship fixtures over the past 20 years, there were not many occasions that the perceived top 4 teams met at semi final stage, yes you may have had ballycastle or St. John's  and then dall but the first two would not have been top 4. Late 90's and early 2000's Rosas were seen as number 4 and doing so usually got to a few semi finals apart from ballycastle doing then on a few occasions and cushedun once.

Look can you not agree that on the majority of draws the top 4 were kept apart hence the shock and excitement at this draw. Who was last years semi final pairing? And the previous 4, just for instance.

I'm just not getting this argument at all?!

It's not an argument, I was just saying I was glad to see the change and about time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2014, 07:28:36 PM
I mean the point you made about seeding? And the change?
There has never been any seeding. What else can be said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2014, 07:49:02 PM
There is no doubt about it, it's definitely raised a few eyebrows, was thirty odd years since we reached a semi final, that was against Loughgiel after a group stage championship, beating St Johns in a playoff match (after a replay) Loughgiel beat us by 3 points in that semi final, gutted after that game but this team managed to get back after a straight knockout championship which involved beating Dunloy and narrowly getting beat by Cushendall in the semi.

St Johns have managed (Against Loughgiel and leading at HT) and should have been in more semi finals than they have lately and in my book have under performed at Championship, decent league campaigns but poor in Championship.

So it's been the regulars for a brave while, Ballycastle, Cushendall, Loughgiel and Dunloy, and that's because they have put the effort in and for whatever reason have championship pedigree.

This championship won't change that in the long run it will give that club a great day at Ballycastle against the best of the top four, and hopefully (like I said earlier) boost hurling in that club, who'd benefit most? Clooney Gaels and Cloughmills I think. I know our manager well and will only be looking at Clooney Gaels, Mickey Culbert is training the lads and knows a thing or two about preparing teams for Championship in any code.

I just hope we don't get hammered in every game of senior as it will no doubt affect players confidence going into the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 06, 2014, 08:40:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 05, 2014, 07:28:36 PM
I mean the point you made about seeding? And the change?
There has never been any seeding. What else can be said.

ok, your right its all in my head ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 06, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
I've mentioned this in the past and I'm going to do so again.

Our counties website admin is a total joke. We have Creggan playing in an all Ireland club final this wknd at HQ and lgiel in AI semi final and not one word about it on the website. They need a serious kick in the hole. The front of the website should have a full size page dedicated to these two matches with times/venues etc etc and try to promote hurling. Instead we have last weeks county hurling and football fixtures at the top of the page in size 12 font like something a child would put up. Really angers me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 06, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: cfclg on February 06, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
I've mentioned this in the past and I'm going to do so again.

Our counties website admin is a total joke. We have Creggan playing in an all Ireland club final this wknd at HQ and lgiel in AI semi final and not one word about it on the website. They need a serious kick in the hole. The front of the website should have a full size page dedicated to these two matches with times/venues etc etc and try to promote hurling. Instead we have last weeks county hurling and football fixtures at the top of the page in size 12 font like something a child would put up. Really angers me.

And thats before we even mention the attitude of the administrator to genuine queries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 06, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
I totally agree. But with his censoring powers from a dictatorship era, no-one will get the chance to pass comment on the site. If a member of the county board/executive or team manager was to put in such a poor performance there would be calls for his/her head to roll.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
I hear Johnny C is down to play on Saturday. Good news for us.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
I hear Johnny C is down to play on Saturday. Good news for us.  :)


Didn't realise he was struggling. Seems sun and showers on Saturday. I'm taking the wife and kids, though I'll get them to drop me off at the pub and they can go shopping
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
I hear Johnny C is down to play on Saturday. Good news for us.  :)


Didn't realise he was struggling. Seems sun and showers on Saturday. I'm taking the wife and kids, though I'll get them to drop me off at the pub and they can go shopping
he was injured in the friendly against Antrim. It's taken a bit longer than thought to get better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
I hear Johnny C is down to play on Saturday. Good news for us.  :)


Didn't realise he was struggling. Seems sun and showers on Saturday. I'm taking the wife and kids, though I'll get them to drop me off at the pub and they can go shopping
he was injured in the friendly against Antrim. It's taken a bit longer than thought to get better.

Well that's good news, he's great at clearing up in that half back area and getting quick ball into forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
I hear Johnny C is down to play on Saturday. Good news for us.  :)


Didn't realise he was struggling. Seems sun and showers on Saturday. I'm taking the wife and kids, though I'll get them to drop me off at the pub and they can go shopping
he was injured in the friendly against Antrim. It's taken a bit longer than thought to get better.

Well that's good news, he's great at clearing up in that half back area and getting quick ball into forwards.
hes good for a point or two as well. Pairc esler should suit him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 06, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
Old dog for the hard road. Johnny is the right man for Saturday. Hopefully he'll be 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 06, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
would this be the first time in quite a while that an ulster team is a favourite for an all ireland semi final? been quite some time since that happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2014, 01:42:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 06, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
would this be the first time in quite a while that an ulster team is a favourite for an all ireland semi final? been quite some time since that happened.

Can't remember that happening right enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 06, 2014, 01:59:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 06, 2014, 01:00:51 PM
would this be the first time in quite a while that an ulster team is a favourite for an all ireland semi final? been quite some time since that happened.

Dunno about the bookies (not a betting man), but I think at least one Dublin paper tipped Loughgiel the first day against St Thomas'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 06, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
Johnny Campbell - quality all the way.
Defensively sound - gets on the ball - set up attacks.
Big player - lets hope he's 100% days like this call for men like him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
Loughgiel by 15 in the semi and 10 in the final. Put the house on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 11:48:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
Loughgiel by 15 in the semi and 10 in the final. Put the house on it.
As the youngsters say nowadays, "Lol".  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 07, 2014, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2014, 11:48:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
Loughgiel by 15 in the semi and 10 in the final. Put the house on it.
As the youngsters say nowadays, "Lol".  ;D

lol  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2014, 09:59:14 AM
If the weather ain't too bad I might take the camera down for its first outing at a match!! Get Curly to give me some tips, though I'd be reluctant to get my wee lens out in front of his!! Oh Matron
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
Newry shamrocks are opening their club before the match. Lookin like a wee pint or two to calm the nerves will be in order.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 07, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
Newry shamrocks are opening their club before the match. Lookin like a wee pint or two to calm the nerves will be in order.  8)

Don't be going and overdoing it now, can't be having another DJ Hardwell type incident in Newry, Daisy hill couldn't cope with so many bodies boking all over the place.

Think you'll win by 4 or 5 if you keep the game as open and expansive as you can, don't be getting into a dogfight with the bigger dog. woof woof.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 07, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
Newry shamrocks are opening their club before the match. Lookin like a wee pint or two to calm the nerves will be in order.  8)

Don't be going and overdoing it now, can't be having another DJ Hardwell type incident in Newry, Daisy hill couldn't cope with so many bodies boking all over the place.

Think you'll win by 4 or 5 if you keep the game as open and expansive as you can, don't be getting into a dogfight with the bigger dog. woof woof.
I'm a firm believer in moderation in all things, Johnny.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 07, 2014, 12:50:15 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 07, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 11:52:30 AM
Newry shamrocks are opening their club before the match. Lookin like a wee pint or two to calm the nerves will be in order.  8)

Don't be going and overdoing it now, can't be having another DJ Hardwell type incident in Newry, Daisy hill couldn't cope with so many bodies boking all over the place.

Think you'll win by 4 or 5 if you keep the game as open and expansive as you can, don't be getting into a dogfight with the bigger dog. woof woof.

Totally agree with this. If you don't get the forwards out into the open MLR will stick like glue and there won't be much in this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 07, 2014, 01:59:49 PM
Hmmm and haa at it whatever way you want. It will be some feat if MLR pull of a result tomorrow (fair play to them if they do)but can't see it.  Pairc Esler will suit L'giel down to the ground (water permitting) and the travelling masses will make some hullaballoo from that covered stand.

Agus Adh mor Seamroga!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 07, 2014, 03:30:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WVM8itzRVjs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WVM8itzRVjs)


Gwan Eddie boy, didn't let the side down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2014, 09:13:41 PM
There won't be much sleep the night.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 07, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Best of luck to the Shams the morrow. Get scores on the board early and its yours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2014, 09:49:11 PM
Anyone tell Ulster council we've a couple of teams playing in a some wee hurling matches tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2014, 11:45:51 AM
Brass monkey's in more ways than one!
Starting to think this could be a close game!
Good luck Creggan also - love a dual club doing well! Is that right MR2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
Leaving soon, on a side note my young niece is singing the National Anthem today, Well done Beth
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
This is going to be tight. Not liking this ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
This is going to be tight. Not liking this ref.
feck the ref. we need to step up a gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
Eddie mccloskey only boy on his game so far.

Need to start winning ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 03:33:07 PM
Much too sluggish. Need another yard in their step. Mlr a big physical unit but if we can get the ball to our forwards we'll cause damage. But that'll be the problem. Winning the ball to get it to them. This is what I was expecting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Shams Haven't started, need to get the finger out and stop the fouls. mLR have brought their shooting boots. All about goals in 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 04:06:17 PM
This game is slipping away from loughgiel  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2014, 04:15:19 PM
Some ridiculous calls by the ref
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2014, 04:16:39 PM
And another
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2014, 04:21:02 PM
Wow, fair play MLR, surprised as I thought there was no real pace to their hurling but some great scores. Shams just weren't at the races. All the best to them in the AI.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DownFanatic on February 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
MLR were the better side I thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2014, 04:27:06 PM
Difficult to take any defeat at that stage.

Ref was poor to MLR more so I felt, discipline is key and the one time it has let LG down in the last couple of years has cost them big time.

I would say LG looking back will admit better team on the day won, conditions seemed to suit mlr. The two points after each lg goal were crucial.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 04:48:21 PM
Creggan match going to extra time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Gutted. But you can't win games with one half if hurling. Well done to mlr. A big strong team. Feel for duck. A stupid reaction to a blatant swing from an opponent. Too many mistakes made all over the field. 5 in a row the goal now.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2014, 05:05:28 PM
The second game a different level already to the first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 05:08:18 PM
Different conditions though.

Creggan 1 point up at half time in extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
Anyone else and That is a straight red, McGrath choked on a big call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Creggan draw. Last minute goal by ballysaggart.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Catch and Kick on February 08, 2014, 07:17:01 PM
Delighted for our fellow County men who have been exceptional since they won the county title. Loughiel surprised me in that they never really seemed to want it as much as Rangers. That was the difference. Rangers won dirty ball - and then used it very well.
Hope to see Loughiel get back to Croker again - Antrim hurling doesn't get the credit it deserves down south.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 07:22:32 PM
Creggan unlucky. Some performance. Nothing to fear in the replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Just another thing. When are we going to stop the short puck outs?  They drive me mental.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Just another thing. When are we going to stop the short puck outs?  They drive me mental.

In fairness they were working to an extent got out fought and worked in the middle third so by passing that area should have been the plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
Just another thing. When are we going to stop the short puck outs?  They drive me mental.

In fairness the were working to an extent got out fought and worked in the middle third so by passing that area should have been the plan.
its too big a risk at this level. We lost 3/4 points today because of it. Against o'loughlin Gaels 4 years ago it was 2-2. I just hate to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
Tactically, physically, mentally and ability out fought today, disappointing from an Antrim perspective.

As already said short puck outs lost a few points in the game, the area where Loughgiel have been strong, winning primary ball, was terrible (conditions were poor for both teams) not dealing with their extra man in defence/midfield area was bad and using their own extra man in defence was bad.

Loughgiel could not deal with the pressure put on them, MLR was brilliant at this and able to come out with the ball, too many balls down the middle, when Loughgiel got ball out in the wings they did rightly.

Was a bollox, Winker took goal well the missed free was criminal though, and the ref gave him two goes at it, but undoubtedly the winning the free and handing over a hop ball instead was the difference at the end ffs!! How did that come about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 08, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
Tactically, physically, mentally and ability out fought today, disappointing from an Antrim perspective.

As already said short puck outs lost a few points in the game, the area where Loughgiel have been strong, winning primary ball, was terrible (conditions were poor for both teams) not dealing with their extra man in defence/midfield area was bad and using their own extra man in defence was bad.

Loughgiel could not deal with the pressure put on them, MLR was brilliant at this and able to come out with the ball, too many balls down the middle, when Loughgiel got ball out in the wings they did rightly.

Was a bollox, Winker took goal well the missed free was criminal though, and the ref gave him two goes at it, but undoubtedly the winning the free and handing over a hop ball instead was the difference at the end ffs!! How did that come about?

The MLR player shoved Duck out of his way just after the free was awarded, Duck then gave him a dunt in the ribs with the end of his stick. No force in it at all but was right in front of the ref. The MLR player makin a meal of it didnt make much difference, ref had no other option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2014, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 08, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
Tactically, physically, mentally and ability out fought today, disappointing from an Antrim perspective.

As already said short puck outs lost a few points in the game, the area where Loughgiel have been strong, winning primary ball, was terrible (conditions were poor for both teams) not dealing with their extra man in defence/midfield area was bad and using their own extra man in defence was bad.

Loughgiel could not deal with the pressure put on them, MLR was brilliant at this and able to come out with the ball, too many balls down the middle, when Loughgiel got ball out in the wings they did rightly.

Was a bollox, Winker took goal well the missed free was criminal though, and the ref gave him two goes at it, but undoubtedly the winning the free and handing over a hop ball instead was the difference at the end ffs!! How did that come about?

The MLR player shoved Duck out of his way just after the free was awarded, Duck then gave him a dunt in the ribs with the end of his stick. No force in it at all but was right in front of the ref. The MLR player makin a meal of it didnt make much difference, ref had no other option.

Stupid, and in fairness Loughgiels discipline has been great these years, so maybe out of character
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Ok:

The better team won

The hop ball was poor discipline magnified by the time of the game it happened.

Loughgiel didn't start well - perhaps complacent deep down despite what was said.

The ref was tragic - small calls consistently going one way. I have posted about this before - it effects games and I won't hear otherwise. Not just in terms of the play but also mentally.

I can't wait for the "loughgiel are finished" brigade. 5 in a row is still theirs if they want it enough.

Terrible to see Creggan lose that late goal - all in the heads for the next day out and I would really love to see them win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Ok:

The better team won

The hop ball was poor discipline magnified by the time of the game it happened.

Loughgiel didn't start well - perhaps complacent deep down despite what was said.

The ref was tragic - small calls consistently going one way. I have posted about this before - it effects games and I won't hear otherwise. Not just in terms of the play but also mentally.

I can't wait for the "loughgiel are finished" brigade. 5 in a row is still theirs if they want it enough.

Terrible to see Creggan lose that late goal - all in the heads for the next day out and I would really love to see them win.

Just interested in the examples of where the ref was tragic?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Ok:

The better team won

The hop ball was poor discipline magnified by the time of the game it happened.

Loughgiel didn't start well - perhaps complacent deep down despite what was said.

The ref was tragic - small calls consistently going one way. I have posted about this before - it effects games and I won't hear otherwise. Not just in terms of the play but also mentally.

I can't wait for the "loughgiel are finished" brigade. 5 in a row is still theirs if they want it enough.

Terrible to see Creggan lose that late goal - all in the heads for the next day out and I would really love to see them win.

Just interested in the examples of where the ref was tragic?

I just really thought throughout the game he gave softer frees toward MLR than the shamrocks. Understand that's a matter of perspective which many people will disagree with but it seemed it frustrate the loughgiel players also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Ok:

The better team won

The hop ball was poor discipline magnified by the time of the game it happened.

Loughgiel didn't start well - perhaps complacent deep down despite what was said.

The ref was tragic - small calls consistently going one way. I have posted about this before - it effects games and I won't hear otherwise. Not just in terms of the play but also mentally.

I can't wait for the "loughgiel are finished" brigade. 5 in a row is still theirs if they want it enough.

Terrible to see Creggan lose that late goal - all in the heads for the next day out and I would really love to see them win.

Just interested in the examples of where the ref was tragic?

I just really thought throughout the game he gave softer frees toward MLR than the shamrocks. Understand that's a matter of perspective which many people will disagree with but it seemed it frustrate the loughgiel players also.

He gifted Loughgiel a few at the death which were not converted and what else could he do for the last free other than give a hop ball. The referee was consistent for both teams. This is one that got away  from Loughgiel on the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
Ok:

The better team won

The hop ball was poor discipline magnified by the time of the game it happened.

Loughgiel didn't start well - perhaps complacent deep down despite what was said.

The ref was tragic - small calls consistently going one way. I have posted about this before - it effects games and I won't hear otherwise. Not just in terms of the play but also mentally.

I can't wait for the "loughgiel are finished" brigade. 5 in a row is still theirs if they want it enough.

Terrible to see Creggan lose that late goal - all in the heads for the next day out and I would really love to see them win.

Just interested in the examples of where the ref was tragic?

I just really thought throughout the game he gave softer frees toward MLR than the shamrocks. Understand that's a matter of perspective which many people will disagree with but it seemed it frustrate the loughgiel players also.

I think when they look back they might have a different view, espcially in the lead up to the second goal there a clear pull on the faceguard.

Dont think there is any questions which can be directed toward the ref on this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Loughgiel lost the match themselves yesterday. It was a lacklustre performance up until the 50th minute or so when they upped it a gear. Too Little, too late.

The ref was poor enough for both teams. He let a lot of slapping off the ball go that the cameras didn't pick up. He blew up for easy frees in the first half when Mlr players were losing their footing. Something he seemed to stop when he finally understood that the pitch was wet.  ::)

Also, can someone tell me why Ronan mccloskey was yellow carded? I was sitting about 20 yards away from it and didn't see anything. Having watched the game today I'm still baffled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Loughgiel lost the match themselves yesterday. It was a lacklustre performance up until the 50th minute or so when they upped it a gear. Too Little, too late.

The ref was poor enough for both teams. He let a lot of slapping off the ball go that the cameras didn't pick up. He blew up for easy frees in the first half when Mlr players were losing their footing. Something he seemed to stop when he finally understood that the pitch was wet.  ::)

Also, can someone tell me why Ronan mccloskey was yellow carded? I was sitting about 20 yards away from it and didn't see anything. Having watched the game today I'm still baffled.

Aye was wondering that to at the time as was the MLR sitting beside me. Strange game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
Loughgiel lost the match themselves yesterday. It was a lacklustre performance up until the 50th minute or so when they upped it a gear. Too Little, too late.

The ref was poor enough for both teams. He let a lot of slapping off the ball go that the cameras didn't pick up. He blew up for easy frees in the first half when Mlr players were losing their footing. Something he seemed to stop when he finally understood that the pitch was wet.  ::)

Also, can someone tell me why Ronan mccloskey was yellow carded? I was sitting about 20 yards away from it and didn't see anything. Having watched the game today I'm still baffled.

Aye was wondering that to at the time as was the MLR sitting beside me. Strange game

This is one reason I made the ref point - another was right in front of me when an MLR player dipped low / slipped into Martin scullion - ref blew it for a free but scullion had barely attempted a tackle let alone fouled him.
In such a close game these things matter.
Although as I said I don't dispute the result or blame the ref on it at all.
They'll never admit it but I can help wonder was the lack lustre start a result of sub-conscious complacency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2014, 04:40:12 PM
I can't understand how Loughgiel would have been complacent against MLR, or how anyone would have thought it would be a cakewalk for Loughgiel. There were no form lines to support it.

You don't beat Ballyboden and Oulart without being a good team. I don't think Loughgiel did underestimate them, you can't win them all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game
7/8 points?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2014, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game

I always said the better team won and never attributed loughiel's loss to the ref - but I maintain I thought the award of some debate able decisions favoured MLR.

The shamrock in front of me's choice of words wasn't great mind you - other loughgiel supporters actually told him to cool it!

Incredible journey from intermediate to a senior final for MLR.

I don't see anyone stopping this drive for five.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game
7/8 points?

Ok probably more, when you add up their win margins over the year they would have scored more. So another attempt next year against the Galway champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game
7/8 points?

Ok probably more, when you add up their win margins over the year they would have scored more. So another attempt next year against the Galway champions
its Munster next year mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Dropping ball, not adapting to conditions, Campbell missing in first half, not winning enough tackles, not winning 50/50's, not adapting to extra man, not utilising your own free man, missing crucial frees, not getting hooks or blocks in I could go on, the referee could not control that part of their game

Basically Loughgiel picked the wrong day to have their worst game, does this show a chink in their armour for the coming Championship? No as they were still 7/8 points better than the rest in Antrim last season and the other teams need to raise their game
7/8 points?

Ok probably more, when you add up their win margins over the year they would have scored more. So another attempt next year against the Galway champions
its Munster next year mr2.

Well Munster aint great so you have a chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 10, 2014, 08:33:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 17, 2014, 09:39:45 AM


I've been impressed with the technique of a lot of the Carlow senior hurling teams I've seen in recent years, they've pushed hard at minor and U-21 in Leinster as well, so they can hurl and aren't just big mollockers.



johnneycool certainly called it right.  MLR worked hard but it wasn't just about hard work. They hulred well. Shams will be gutted and I felt for them at the end. They could have nicked it but the truth is that MLR deserved the win. Winker's radar was  a bit off too and will be kicking himself. Did McFadden get a straight red? Pretty harsh. I looked at that again and again and there was nothing much in it. When you look at what Joe Canning got away with!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2014, 08:48:33 AM
didnt make it too the game on sat so had to make do with the tv.

have to say i was disappointed in lgiel, they can play far better than that. that being said i though MLR were better all over the pitch. they were a good passing team whereas lgiel couldnt pass it, rather played long balls in. something they never do.

the goals kept them in the match. what happened at the end was unreal. couldnt understand what was going on and why ronan got sent off and a hop ball.

it was just a case of not playing well and the other team playing far better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 08:59:31 AM
Duck got a second yellow at the sending off. Soft yellow in the first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 10, 2014, 09:11:04 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 08:59:31 AM
Duck got a second yellow at the sending off. Soft yellow in the first half.

;D

Your throwin out bait there SIE so I'll have a wee nibble. That first yellow was far from soft. Not as bad as Canning but both could easy have been red as they say 'I've seen them given'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on February 10, 2014, 09:11:04 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 08:59:31 AM
Duck got a second yellow at the sending off. Soft yellow in the first half.

;D

Your throwin out bait there SIE so I'll have a wee nibble. That first yellow was far from soft. Not as bad as Canning but both could easy have been red as they say 'I've seen them given'
considering what the ref didn't blow for or give a yellow card for, it was soft.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 09:17:18 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 08:59:31 AM
Duck got a second yellow at the sending off. Soft yellow in the first half.

Im not sure maybe im getting mixed up, was the first yellow not for a pull around the chest of a MLR player around the middle of the field. The ball popped up and a LG player pulled and got a yellow, not sure if it was Duck or not but if that was his first yellow I would have thought it was justified.

Discipline has been the key for LG in the last number of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
Both teams got away with worse throughout the game. The ref was inconsistent at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 09:29:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
Both teams got away with worse throughout the game. The ref was inconsistent at best.

Means nothing really, as the referee didn't lose Loughgiel the game, thought at the end he gave them 3 opportunities to steal a draw or even win the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 09:31:12 AM
As I posted yesterday, it had nothing to do with the ref. We lost it with a poor first half performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2014, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2014, 08:48:33 AM
didnt make it too the game on sat so had to make do with the tv.

have to say i was disappointed in lgiel, they can play far better than that. that being said i though MLR were better all over the pitch. they were a good passing team whereas lgiel couldnt pass it, rather played long balls in. something they never do.

the goals kept them in the match. what happened at the end was unreal. couldnt understand what was going on and why ronan got sent off and a hop ball.

it was just a case of not playing well and the other team playing far better.

Probably the worst type of defeat to accept, there'll be a few sleepless nights getting over that one. To be beaten by a point and knowing you didn't play remotely at your best is worst that getting hammered off the park by a superior team.

The slick passing of Loughgiel of previous AI campaigns was gone, the ball wasn't going to hand and being taken cleanly giving MLR lads a chance to get a tackle in and use their size to come out with it. MLR were good at finding their men with stick and hand passing and had two very handy corner forwards who used the ball well and caused problems all day.

They also took some fine points from distance when Loughgiel got both goals, taking the edge off the Loughgiel revival.

DD had to do something ala the short puck outs as I didn't see one aerial battle won by a red jersey from their own puck out, he had to try something, Ding seemed to be his go to man, but twice that I saw Ding turned onto his left and drove it straight down the middle not any further than DD could have pucked it out anyway. Didn't make sense unless no one was making themselves available up the field.
If you're not going to win clean aerial ball you've gotta make sure there are lads flying in to get to the breaking ball, but MLR seemed to be there quicker to it and with that wall in front of their fullback line, Watson the other wee lad in the corner were feeding off scraps.
The MLR centre back played centre back for Carlow against Down a few years back and didn't give either Dule nor Magic a look at it and is a very handy tool, he swept up a huge amount of ball and used it well, rarely getting caught in possession and give it off to a team mate. It's always wise to try and keep the play away from a lad like that.

For all the hole picking at the Loughgiel performance they still had a few chances to level it, but alas it wasn't to be, you have those days some days, even Watson is human.

Yeah the ref made mistakes, but they didn't have any bearing on the final outcome. Not sure about the second yellow for duck, but the first was merited alright even if it was unintentional. Even after that hop ball there was another chance to level not including the long range one which was caught near the endline but nothing came off.

If they're to be beaten in Antrim or Ulster it'll still take a big performance to do it, but getting the appetite back for it may take a few months of doing no hurling at all for some of those lads who haven't set a hurl down in almost four years, Antrims loss will be Loughgiels gain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.

Very good, especially the 'Nelson' factor. On th line can be a horrible place to assess a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 11:09:54 AM
condolences to the Quinn family

From County Website:
It is with deep regret that we have to announce the death of Barbara Quinn, wife of our esteemed County Secretary Frankie Quinn, and we would like to offer our sincere sympathies to all the family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.

Very good, especially the 'Nelson' factor. On th line can be a horrible place to assess a game

Especially when you get involved in everyone decision and are riled up.

Have often wondered why more manager dont get away from the hustle along the line and go up into the stand and have a cool calm look at the game and where they can have an influence (if possible at all) to help their team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 11:47:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.

Very good, especially the 'Nelson' factor. On th line can be a horrible place to assess a game

Especially when you get involved in everyone decision and are riled up.

Have often wondered why more manager dont get away from the hustle along the line and go up into the stand and have a cool calm look at the game and where they can have an influence (if possible at all) to help their team.

Obviously a lot of league grounds can't facilitate this as they have no higher vantage point, hurling is played quick and and those first 30 mins fly by especially in championship. If you have a good team of management staff you can maybe move off to a vantage point and calmly look at the game and get a better perspective on it, I know Jim did this quite a lot and talked via the head set, Culbert also used this when managing our seniors.

As Johnney said 11, 6 and 13 were players that the ball needed to be kept away from, no doubt PJ had this Intel and the players would have known. As for the short puck outs surely there is less chance of conceding a score in the oppositions halfback line than losing ball on your own 21? as the lad who won ball on the 21 was only going to get an extra 10 yards than DD.

Ah well, Loughgiel will raise it again I'm sure, will PJ take a break, hard going after so many miles, while the good times are great the losses do take their toll
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2014, 12:40:16 PM
i was impressed with MLR again. their passing game was very good and they look a big strong side. they do fully deserve to be where they are now and well done to them.

i noticed the puck outs as well going short from DD. didnt make any sense to me as they were then sent in long. when the passing game went there was no plan b it seemed.

5 in a row isnt beyond them this year and the rest of us are still playing catch up with lgiel. im sure a long rest is needed for a few of the players now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.

Very good, especially the 'Nelson' factor. On th line can be a horrible place to assess a game

Especially when you get involved in everyone decision and are riled up.

Have often wondered why more manager dont get away from the hustle along the line and go up into the stand and have a cool calm look at the game and where they can have an influence (if possible at all) to help their team.

IMO winning their own puck outs has been Loughgiels achilles heel against St Thomas' last year and even this year against us it was something they struggled with and we're not a big team, hence the need for a bit of different thinking with the puckouts.
Whilst you're not going to directly concede a score from pucking the ball down on top of their dominant half back line you are giving them a steady supply of possession they'll put into their forwards anyway, DD had to do something as just pumping it long wouldn't work either, the short puck outs are inherently more of a risk but if Ding was able to drop the ball down on the opposite 21 it would have by passed that wall at halfback and gave the full forward line some sort of supply.
It just didn't work on saturday but neither would have DD whaling it down the throats of the MLR half backs.

On the viewing angle thing, there's no doubt viewing a game from a bit of height gives you greater perspective of the game from a positional sense and movement and one of the reasons I can understand why in Rugby the management teams sit high up in the stands, but alas not too big of an issue in club hurling in Ulster unless you bring a cherry picker with you. On top of a dug out, just isn't the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 12:53:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2014, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 10, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
Loughiel lost the game on Saturday - nothing to do with the ref. He made some questionable calls against both sides, but in the balance of it there was no particular bias towards one side or the other. The only person who can feel hard done by is Ronan McCloskey. Ronan was ran ragged for 10 mins and just when he could have been taken off he settled and was in complete control in the area where MLR were sending all balls to their man of the match. The "non yellow card" which he was awarded meant it was too much of a risk to leave him in there - PJ made the right call. Pity - because i fully believe Ronan could have been the key to stopping their attack.

On another note, Loughiel didnt have the same appetitie as MLR. The team that wanted it most won it!
However, Loughiel were still within touching distance despite the below par performance. I honestly think the difference was the 'Jim Nelson' factor. Whilst Jim's ill health is devastating for all Antrim people - his calm and calculated eye was missing on Saturday. There were a few things happening on the pitch which Jim would have eradicated in seconds. The sideline had a lot to do on Saturday but Jim would be coolly sitting back and noticing small things like the fact that LG forwards didnt win any high ball - which was consistently fed in to them.

It was just an unfortunate day for Antrim and LG and MLR deserve a lot of credit.

Very good, especially the 'Nelson' factor. On th line can be a horrible place to assess a game

Especially when you get involved in everyone decision and are riled up.

Have often wondered why more manager dont get away from the hustle along the line and go up into the stand and have a cool calm look at the game and where they can have an influence (if possible at all) to help their team.

IMO winning their own puck outs has been Loughgiels achilles heel against St Thomas' last year and even this year against us it was something they struggled with and we're not a big team, hence the need for a bit of different thinking with the puckouts.
Whilst you're not going to directly concede a score from pucking the ball down on top of their dominant half back line you are giving them a steady supply of possession they'll put into their forwards anyway, DD had to do something as just pumping it long wouldn't work either, the short puck outs are inherently more of a risk but if Ding was able to drop the ball down on the opposite 21 it would have by passed that wall at halfback and gave the full forward line some sort of supply.
It just didn't work on saturday but neither would have DD whaling it down the throats of the MLR half backs.

On the viewing angle thing, there's no doubt viewing a game from a bit of height gives you greater perspective of the game from a positional sense and movement and one of the reasons I can understand why in Rugby the management teams sit high up in the stands, but alas not too big of an issue in club hurling in Ulster unless you bring a cherry picker with you. On top of a dug out, just isn't the same.

Ok johnney I understand short puck outs but Loughgiel conceded 3/4 points this way, that wasn't working and only working against them, dirty ball wasn't won by Loughgiel when it went in. It's the winning and losing of a game on day like that IMO.

I just think positionally they were at sixes and sevens, which is surprising as a lot of teams would deploy that type of tactic on Loughgiel, Loughgiels fitness was evident in the last 10 mins, the MLR lads were dropping all over the show. Ah we could analyze this all day, fair play MLR great to see an underdog do well, just not yesterday.

Beware the wounded animal!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2014, 01:36:15 PM
Tactically the loss of JC was a bigger one that maybe it first appeared. Anyone who has watched LG in recent times, would have noticed that the short puckouts invariably went to JC or the half back, normally 30-40yrds out and right on the sidelines. This had two effects on opponents, meant LG could then by pass the middle third, easier done from the HBL than the FBL and secondly it dragged the opposition HFL up the pitch to try and counter it leaving more space around the middle for a cross field pass.

Whether there wasnt the same confidence in going there without JC or MLR had twigged and dropped the man out to deliberately avoid this, forced them into going shorter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2014, 01:41:36 PM
The issues with the short puck outs were just a microcosm of what was going wrong for Loughgiel in general play, the ball was dropped, not sharp enough to it, losing it in possession etc etc, but IMO with every ball pumped into the MLR half back line being turned back down their throats DD had to do something, it just didn't work out.

He had to try something though, maybe Ding when he did manage to get his head up would have been better running it out a bit further as NAG1 suggests, but in the heat of battle its not always possible and the support needs to be there if he runs into traffic. MLR always seemed to be able to get the ball away to a man in space, a feature you'd always associate with Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 10, 2014, 02:25:41 PM
Hard luck to LG they put in a mighty effort for this game and where close to drawing playing badly by there standards. All the previous analysis on the money but to me the biggest factor was LG looked very lethargic in the first half. Surely there heads where conditioned for a very physical contest with MLR. Was there a bit of complacency, imm sure there mentors would have been telling them MLR are the  real deal but they where overwhelming favourites. Some of that stuff just seeps in no matter what your management tells you. Some posters on here we even saying LG was going to go down there and rip them a new arse hole.  Still the team to beat in antrim though where they will enjoy more space and have time for more a accurate passing and shooting

Five in a row on the cards for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Catch and Kick on February 10, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
MLR are a team of battlers who have refined their stick and team work no end in the past few years. A lot of their players have grown in stature in the past 24 months - they now believe they are able to take on anyone. How good are they? The All Ireland Final will reveal all. Can't see them being overawed in anyway or suffering f=stage fright. it's not in them.
Small tight unit, an amalgamation of 3 clubs who have had a section trying to turn the clock back to the old days of 3 separate units. I think that has drawn them closer. As hard to beat at football where they haven't near as many natural big ball players.
They are very level headed; they haven't lost the run of themselves with the big wins in Leinster and are well grounded. Very thorough and sensible in preparations.
As for Loughiel; I got the impression in recent weeks that deep down supporters at least thought this was a gimme. Did that rub off on players?
You won't beat Rangers unless you put your body on the line for every ball and I just thought Loughiel were expecting their superior craft to just do it for them.
On the ref; Rangers def got easy frees in the first half. But in the second half the ref made some shocking decisions, mostly in favour of Loughiel.
Things like the face mask being clearly pulled off a Rangers player, no free and the move ended up int he first goal. Didin't think we're man deserved yellow for the pull - I thought he pulled fairly on the ball.
Looked to me like nearly all the yellow cards were awarded by the linesmen in communication with the ref.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on February 10, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
MLR are a team of battlers who have refined their stick and team work no end in the past few years. A lot of their players have grown in stature in the past 24 months - they now believe they are able to take on anyone. How good are they? The All Ireland Final will reveal all. Can't see them being overawed in anyway or suffering f=stage fright. it's not in them.
Small tight unit, an amalgamation of 3 clubs who have had a section trying to turn the clock back to the old days of 3 separate units. I think that has drawn them closer. As hard to beat at football where they haven't near as many natural big ball players.
They are very level headed; they haven't lost the run of themselves with the big wins in Leinster and are well grounded. Very thorough and sensible in preparations.
As for Loughiel; I got the impression in recent weeks that deep down supporters at least thought this was a gimme. Did that rub off on players?
You won't beat Rangers unless you put your body on the line for every ball and I just thought Loughiel were expecting their superior craft to just do it for them.
On the ref; Rangers def got easy frees in the first half. But in the second half the ref made some shocking decisions, mostly in favour of Loughiel.
Things like the face mask being clearly pulled off a Rangers player, no free and the move ended up int he first goal. Didin't think we're man deserved yellow for the pull - I thought he pulled fairly on the ball.
Looked to me like nearly all the yellow cards were awarded by the linesmen in communication with the ref.
where did you get that impression from? The loughgiel supporters on here or elsewhere took nothing for granted. The players certainly didn't. You'd know That if you'd seen the training these lads put in over the last few months. It was a poor first half for Loughgiel. That's where the match was lost. Fair play to Mlr, better team on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Catch and Kick on February 11, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Maybe I read the comments on here wrong (maybe they weren't Loughiel supporters) but there were quite a number of posts about winning by large margins. I was guessing this may have been the kind of loose talk that creeps into the minds of players. Loughiel are a great outfit and I hope they bounce back and challenge again for All Ireland honours. Antrim hurling folk deserve great credit - always play a lovely brand of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on February 11, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Maybe I read the comments on here wrong (maybe they weren't Loughiel supporters) but there were quite a number of posts about winning by large margins. I was guessing this may have been the kind of loose talk that creeps into the minds of players. Loughiel are a great outfit and I hope they bounce back and challenge again for All Ireland honours. Antrim hurling folk deserve great credit - always play a lovely brand of hurling.
ah, ok. Those were non Loughgiel supporters alright. They should've known better.    ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.

Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol

Catch and Kick, ignore these lads, they haven't seen the marked improvement in Carlow hurling close up like some of us Down lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 11, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on January 27, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
Clooney Gaels 0-7 Rower Inistoge 1-14

Mount Leinster 0-16 Rower Inistoge 2-16

Must be rare that Intermediate champs  beat Senior champs. 

How much would Loughgeil expect to beat Clooney Gaels by?

Shams by a bagful & good luck in the final.

Stop now, you are not allowed to predict scores ;D Loughgiel by 10 pulling up, maybe MLR put out their reserves lol

Catch and Kick, ignore these lads, they haven't seen the marked improvement in Carlow hurling close up like some of us Down lads.

We can only go on form in fairness. MLR have proved a lot of people wrong, though if you do check a lot of post we did say if they allow MLR to stick with them then it could get interesting, I like others were thinking Loughgiel would get a commanding leading but it never happened.

Very good Catch and Kick, keep the hurling going in Antrim line, love it. used it myself when we beat the Galway champions in the semi final, keep her lit lads, I know it's tough in Galway  lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2014, 09:49:41 AM
Not sure about that JC. The Carlow team that came to casement park and played us when Dinny was in charge and we were flying really put it up to us and to be honest it's the most character I've seen from any antrim team to win that game. Kevin Ryan did a lot of good down there(I'm sure many grass roots people and up did too but he improved them a lot too).

In the 2nd game on saturday I was disappointed in NaPiarsagh. I really thought they looked up for it this year but they looked very flat on saturday. It'll be an interesting final.

Every game MLR win against "bigger" opposition you read on here about their opposition not playing well on the day and they will regret it etc etc. It's not really a coincidence that no team has played to their full potential against them with their more physical nature and how much pressing they do - teams can't breathe. I think the final will be a step too far for them as Joe Canning is maybe too much of a scoring machine but what they have achieved thus far is amazing and they have nothing to lose.

Incidentally the "intensity" they show is something I have only really seen from one club team before - Loughgiel 2 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Is there any coincidence that most of their games have been played out in less than ideal conditions which suits teams who want to play their type of intense style of tackling. If the ball was rolling faster it would have suited LG better no doubt and they could have opened MLR up to a greater extent.

Lets be fair MLR are not a great side, they are keen fit and committed with a couple of decent hurlers that to me does not make a great side.

Also the competitive ethics of an amalgamation of 3 clubs playing a rural single club (even LG) has to be questioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Is there any coincidence that most of their games have been played out in less than ideal conditions which suits teams who want to play their type of intense style of tackling. If the ball was rolling faster it would have suited LG better no doubt and they could have opened MLR up to a greater extent.

Lets be fair MLR are not a great side, they are keen fit and committed with a couple of decent hurlers that to me does not make a great side.

Also the competitive ethics of an amalgamation of 3 clubs playing a rural single club (even LG) has to be questioned.

Teams down south have been doing if for years, they are an amalgamation but a proper club, due to numbers clubs have combined but they are real clubs, the Galway champions we played, TAD were an amalgamation, seems to be the norm. be like Creggan and Tir Na Og amalgamating and creating a hurling club. Belfast teams are starting to do it now Eire Og and McDermotts have joined now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Is there any coincidence that most of their games have been played out in less than ideal conditions which suits teams who want to play their type of intense style of tackling. If the ball was rolling faster it would have suited LG better no doubt and they could have opened MLR up to a greater extent.

Lets be fair MLR are not a great side, they are keen fit and committed with a couple of decent hurlers that to me does not make a great side.

Also the competitive ethics of an amalgamation of 3 clubs playing a rural single club (even LG) has to be questioned.

Teams down south have been doing if for years, they are an amalgamation but a proper club, due to numbers clubs have combined but they are real clubs, the Galway champions we played, TAD were an amalgamation, seems to be the norm. be like Creggan and Tir Na Og amalgamating and creating a hurling club. Belfast teams are starting to do it now Eire Og and McDermotts have joined now


I know they have MR2 just questioning the ethics of it really or maybe fairness of it I guess more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
O'loughlin Gaels are also an amalgamation. Interesting question nag1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 11:10:38 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
O'loughlin Gaels are also an amalgamation. Interesting question nag1

But they are clubs in their own right now. Once they are affiliated to the GAA then that's that I suppose, unless they play as their own parish clubs at juvenile level, as was the case for Commedagh and Ballymurphy when I was a kid growing up they were two separate clubs at underage level then at championship underage they were joined, they were a formidable team too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2014, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Is there any coincidence that most of their games have been played out in less than ideal conditions which suits teams who want to play their type of intense style of tackling. If the ball was rolling faster it would have suited LG better no doubt and they could have opened MLR up to a greater extent.

Lets be fair MLR are not a great side, they are keen fit and committed with a couple of decent hurlers that to me does not make a great side.

Also the competitive ethics of an amalgamation of 3 clubs playing a rural single club (even LG) has to be questioned.

Amalgamations aren't allowed to represent a county in any interprovincial competitions as is common in places like Cork and Kerry where amalgamations have won the county championship but can go no further so I'd presume MLR or O'Loughlin gaels aren't deemed amalgamations in the eyes of Croke park.

I'd presume they're outright senior clubs rather than two or three junior clubs getting together for senior championship.

IIRC Thurles Sarsfields have two separate juvenile clubs, themselves and Durlas Og's. Not entirely sure of the connection or its maybe just an unwritten rule that the better juveniles play for the sarsfields, either way they'd not be considered an amalgamation.

do Loughgiel not get the pick of the junior clubs around them anyway, Armoy, Cloughmills etc, etc, especially if they haven't enough younsters to form a team of their own??
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
 Cloughmills are a senior team now Johnny.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 11:35:28 AM
Gutted about Saturdays result.  First time in 3 or 4 years that we haven't performed to a decent level.  Too many players were below par on the day.

Hopefully the lads enjoy their rest, they deserve every bit of it.  That's two semi-finals we've left behind us now, I'm sure these lads will want another crack at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
Cloughmills are a senior team now Johnny.  ;)

Some achievement considering then  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Catch and Kick on February 11, 2014, 11:59:52 AM
MLR are a fully fledged club. They replaced three older clubs who are now gone out of existence. It is a rural area based around the village of Borris. They are not like 'West Kerry' or 'Avondhu' which pick from clubs of their catchment area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: Catch and Kick on February 11, 2014, 11:59:52 AM
MLR are a fully fledged club. They replaced three older clubs who are now gone out of existence. It is a rural area based around the village of Borris. They are not like 'West Kerry' or 'Avondhu' which pick from clubs of their catchment area.

Catch and kick, wasnt having a go at MLR, I would say this is likely to happen more and more especially with the economic situation the country is in, LG do like a recession  ;)

But my wider point was just that the clubs up here have a different reaction to amalgamation I would assume because of the nature of identity and what the club means to the people. So that is maybe to 'our' disadvantage when coming up against these types of clubs with maybe a bigger catchment even if that is a rural catchment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
Cloughmills are a senior team now Johnny.  ;)

Some achievement considering then  :D
Rich, coming from milltown row.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 12:35:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
Cloughmills are a senior team now Johnny.  ;)

Some achievement considering then  :D
Rich, coming from milltown row.  ;)

Hurling section, keep those blow ins for the football side please  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?

Think it was reference to parish boundaries and it was tongue in cheek from what I could pick up  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 12:40:15 PM
First of all.  Absolutely gutted.  Barely slept since.  Would have been better to have been beaten out the gate than to under preform and loose by a point. Hurlers own us nothing, been a pleasure to follow them as past few years,   A lot of valid points made, on the ref, he didn't loose us the game but IMO he gifted MLR 4 soft frees in first half.  Lads loosing footing on few occasions and on another the MLR man turned into scully and hit the deck.   I also understand that there was a face mask pull leading to our 2nd goal.  Kind of evened itself out.  But hadn't the "soft frees" IMO been given.   I don't think MLR would have opened up any sort of lead at all.   Someone pointed out there intensity and it being matched only by ourselves in 2012.  Fair play they won on the day. Had that match reached extra time I feel the same result of 2012 was on the cards.  Are lads were flying fit and came into game very well in last 1/4.   I agree with nag that they are not that good a team but they have beaten anything in there path and fair play.  And with out doubt we left it behind.   Sick to my stomach.   But we shall have to move on.   Good luck MLR in final.   We will enjoy break and get ready for what should be a very testing championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 11, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
was chatting to a st johns man at the weekend and he was kinda gutted with their draw this year. i basically told him if someone from our side wins it this year they will really deserve it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 11, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?

How many Cloughmills men started for them on Saturday?  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 01:31:06 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 11, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?

How many Cloughmills men started for them on Saturday?  :D :D :D :D :D :D
how many times have they played for cloughmills?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 11, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?

How many Cloughmills men started for them on Saturday?  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Players 'from' Cloughmills:

Paul Gillen - grew up around Loughgiel and played for them since Under 10.  Coughmills weren't even founded as a club when he started hurling for Loughgiel i'd imagine. Lives in Loughgiel.

Neil McGarry - as above although I think Cloughmills club had probably formed by the time he started hurling.  Definately no underage team though. Lives in Loughgiel.

Mark McFadden - played for Loughgiel since Under 10.  His father lived in and played for Loughgiel.

All of these players had family connections to the Loughgiel club hence there allegience.  I'd look upon it differently if another club had invested the time in developing these players since underage before they moved to Loughgiel, not the case though.  Bit of a stretch to say Loughgiel taking the pick of neighbouring clubs if based on the above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 12:40:15 PM
First of all.  Absolutely gutted.  Barely slept since.  Would have been better to have been beaten out the gate than to under preform and loose by a point. Hurlers own us nothing, been a pleasure to follow them as past few years,   A lot of valid points made, on the ref, he didn't loose us the game but IMO he gifted MLR 4 soft frees in first half.  Lads loosing footing on few occasions and on another the MLR man turned into scully and hit the deck.   I also understand that there was a face mask pull leading to our 2nd goal.  Kind of evened itself out.  But hadn't the "soft frees" IMO been given.   I don't think MLR would have opened up any sort of lead at all.   Someone pointed out there intensity and it being matched only by ourselves in 2012.  Fair play they won on the day. Had that match reached extra time I feel the same result of 2012 was on the cards.  Are lads were flying fit and came into game very well in last 1/4.   I agree with nag that they are not that good a team but they have beaten anything in there path and fair play.  And with out doubt we left it behind.   Sick to my stomach.   But we shall have to move on.   Good luck MLR in final.   We will enjoy break and get ready for what should be a very testing championship.

Yeah would agree with all of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
was chatting to a st johns man at the weekend and he was kinda gutted with their draw this year. i basically told him if someone from our side wins it this year they will really deserve it.

What would he have preferred? It is what it is, a lot of years we have met Loughgiel in the first round, it's a bummer, one year we had to play Dunloy (twice) and Cushendall, that's how it goes. There are no easy Championships to win, you'll have to play each game like a final anyway. St John's will improve on last year I was impressed by them for most parts of the game at Lamhs.

We will be under major pressure to reach the county final, purely based on passed results, that will mean nothing come the 28th of August, Clooney Gales will get stuck in and I'll be happy with a one point win (which is what we won by last time we played)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
was chatting to a st johns man at the weekend and he was kinda gutted with their draw this year. i basically told him if someone from our side wins it this year they will really deserve it.

What would he have preferred? It is what it is, a lot of years we have met Loughgiel in the first round, it's a bummer, one year we had to play Dunloy (twice) and Cushendall, that's how it goes. There are no easy Championships to win, you'll have to play each game like a final anyway. St John's will improve on last year I was impressed by them for most parts of the game at Lamhs.

We will be under major pressure to reach the county final, purely based on passed results, that will mean nothing come the 28th of August, Clooney Gales will get stuck in and I'll be happy with a one point win (which is what we won by last time we played)

Would need to be a big improvement from what I saw of them in the Championship, yes they are young but they were no where near it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 11, 2014, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
was chatting to a st johns man at the weekend and he was kinda gutted with their draw this year. i basically told him if someone from our side wins it this year they will really deserve it.

What would he have preferred? It is what it is, a lot of years we have met Loughgiel in the first round, it's a bummer, one year we had to play Dunloy (twice) and Cushendall, that's how it goes. There are no easy Championships to win, you'll have to play each game like a final anyway. St John's will improve on last year I was impressed by them for most parts of the game at Lamhs.

We will be under major pressure to reach the county final, purely based on passed results, that will mean nothing come the 28th of August, Clooney Gales will get stuck in and I'll be happy with a one point win (which is what we won by last time we played)

Would need to be a big improvement from what I saw of them in the Championship, yes they are young but they were no where near it.

Still very reliant on Brian McFall up front and he is well past his best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2014, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 11, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 12:34:03 PM
I'm confused as to which players Loughgiel have 'poached'?

How many Cloughmills men started for them on Saturday?  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Three it seems.

No Armoy lads?

8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:08:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 11, 2014, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2014, 01:12:40 PM
was chatting to a st johns man at the weekend and he was kinda gutted with their draw this year. i basically told him if someone from our side wins it this year they will really deserve it.

What would he have preferred? It is what it is, a lot of years we have met Loughgiel in the first round, it's a bummer, one year we had to play Dunloy (twice) and Cushendall, that's how it goes. There are no easy Championships to win, you'll have to play each game like a final anyway. St John's will improve on last year I was impressed by them for most parts of the game at Lamhs.

We will be under major pressure to reach the county final, purely based on passed results, that will mean nothing come the 28th of August, Clooney Gales will get stuck in and I'll be happy with a one point win (which is what we won by last time we played)
:o

What I'm trying to say was their stick work was good, their handling was good, as said by someone already they rely on Brian a lot, Brian demands the ball and a lot goes through him. I have refereed them last year twice and they hurled rightly. I know Cushendall beat them handy.

I think they are the best city team for a while and will continue to be, Rossa have went to the wall and we are behind Rossa so a lot to do in the city still
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
Yes was at the game to as I did line in the next game, what I am saying was they have a lot more to them than bloody awful as you've put it, they are the best of what the city have and have more potential if they get their act together, Ciaran went off injured last year didn't help either, they have in the main a young team. They should come on from last year, decent league form too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 02:37:47 PM
Past the 1500 pages mark now Mr2
One thing fur sure here in antrim why can type as much shite as we talk
LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:41:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 02:37:47 PM
Past the 1500 pages mark now Mr2
One thing fur sure here in antrim why can type as much shite as we talk
LOL

Sure it's a bitta criac, when the trolls are away it's just a bit of light banter, nothing won or lost on here that's for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
It is always great to come on for people to point out where we've gone wrong.  Have to give the old Gaa board a lot of credit for helping us out as past few years ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
It is always great to come on for people to point out where we've gone wrong.  Have to give the old Gaa board a lot of credit for helping us out as past few years ;D

Yeah it was here when you got it right also, I don't know why you lot get more picked on that say Naomh Gall and they have won a lot more recently (through social media)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:46:25 PM
OPINIONS.  There like arseholes. Everyone has one and everyone thinks the other persons stink,  prob my favorite quote since I've joined ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
It is always great to come on for people to point out where we've gone wrong.  Have to give the old Gaa board a lot of credit for helping us out as past few years ;D

Yeah it was here when you got it right also, I don't know why you lot get more picked on that say Naomh Gall and they have won a lot more recently (through social media)
MR2.  I no your a shamrock lover.  I no ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:59:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:45:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
It is always great to come on for people to point out where we've gone wrong.  Have to give the old Gaa board a lot of credit for helping us out as past few years ;D

Yeah it was here when you got it right also, I don't know why you lot get more picked on that say Naomh Gall and they have won a lot more recently (through social media)
MR2.  I no your a shamrock lover.  I no ;)

Hey I love good hurling and they have managed to do that these last few years, not much to add to that, I also loved the Dunloy hurling team of the 90's and when I was really young  ;) the Ballycastle team of the 80's

Cushendall teams have had a foot in all those decades, stopping Dunloy dominating the 90's and their wins prior to Loughgiel's dominance have to be admired. In truth the 4 teams have had their share of titles these past 30 years, the football will change in a few years also with different winners until a team comes through and dominates.

As for this draw the team that comes through the 'easy' side will not get an opportunity like this ever again (due to tradition, structures within their club, numbers) To prepare for a final in two weeks will be tough as the standard from the semi will be below the standard in the other semi. If the lesser clubs are serious about getting to the final then they need to be starting now with a game plan


Edit: Will be speak to MLR ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 03:13:48 PM
Cold hearted man  :'( I'd imagine your game plan is to put half as much effort into the hurling for 1 year and get to final.    OR!!!!!   Put as much effort in as the football and get to final with every chance to cause an "upset".   Bring the form of 2 years ago and who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 03:13:48 PM
Cold hearted man  :'( I'd imagine your game plan is to put half as much effort into the hurling for 1 year and get to final.    OR!!!!!   Put as much effort in as the football and get to final with every chance to cause an "upset".   Bring the form of 2 years ago and who knows

Yeah either plan would do, the lads are the age of your boys so they won't get too many opportunities in fairness, now or not for a long time :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
I say when it hits 2000 we run a bus up to the city( dunloy crew at the back of course) and get mr2 drunk. Or buy him some shampoo and a new comb and hair brush
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 11, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
I say when it hits 2000 we run a bus up to the city( dunloy crew at the back of course) and get mr2 drunk. Or buy him some shampoo and a new comb and hair brush

And that's just for his back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
I say when it hits 2000 we run a bus up to the city( dunloy crew at the back of course) and get mr2 drunk. Or buy him some shampoo and a new comb and hair brush

What ya trying to say

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
I say when it hits 2000 we run a bus up to the city( dunloy crew at the back of course) and get mr2 drunk. Or buy him some shampoo and a new comb and hair brush

What ya trying to say

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Ok ok we will all club in and buy you gift voucher for you favourate chip shop
Woulld you like a special de luxe model blow up sheep. Can't garantee it won't get some abuse on the road up all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
I say when it hits 2000 we run a bus up to the city( dunloy crew at the back of course) and get mr2 drunk. Or buy him some shampoo and a new comb and hair brush

What ya trying to say

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWCwws73KiDYXlK0-9dzH_t2oVYbjB9ymZTMJ4nV4pCEpMRvrzEQ)

Ok ok we will all club in and buy you gift voucher for you favourate chip shop
Woulld you like a special de luxe model blow up sheep. Can't garantee it won't get some abuse on the road up all the same

Make sure it's shaven, I know you country ones don't care (French style) but the city folk have a bitta class lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
No doubt the voucher will be for not only the chips but the pastie bap way Red sas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
No doubt the voucher will be for not only the chips but the pastie bap way Red sas

He sounds more interested in the sheep. I would bring him up a real one but there making good money at the minute.

I bet he doesn't know that if you have a blow up sheep and it's eyes suddenly turn white there's only one thing you can do

empty her
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 11, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is

North Antrim clubs have been given the first 9 dates for all county league. They start on 30th March, 2nd round the week after and third round on Easter weekend. North Antrim league starts next weekend and will run up to the start of ACHL and will resume again when ACHL takes a break for Leinster championship. North Antrim teams will be hurling every weekend to mid May, which is great
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 11, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
No doubt the voucher will be for not only the chips but the pastie bap way Red sas

He sounds more interested in the sheep. I would bring him up a real one but there making good money at the minute.

I bet he doesn't know that if you have a blow up sheep and it's eyes suddenly turn white there's only one thing you can do

empty her
sick man  ::) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 11, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
(http://lupusuva1phototherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/kid-eating-chips-and-fries-270-thumb-270x270.jpg)

V

(http://www.farmerfredsplaybarnnorfolk.co.uk/images/farmer-fred-with-sheep.png)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 11, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
(http://lupusuva1phototherapy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/kid-eating-chips-and-fries-270-thumb-270x270.jpg)

V

(http://www.farmerfredsplaybarnnorfolk.co.uk/images/farmer-fred-with-sheep.png)

West Belfast porn v north antrim porn
Very good jeepers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 11, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is

North Antrim clubs have been given the first 9 dates for all county league. They start on 30th March, 2nd round the week after and third round on Easter weekend. North Antrim league starts next weekend and will run up to the start of ACHL and will resume again when ACHL takes a break for Leinster championship. North Antrim teams will be hurling every weekend to mid May, which is great

Do you have these ACHL dates as yet? If so could you stick up?

Is the North Antrim league being played on a Saturday/Sunday? Any fixtures/entrants for it?

Condolences for Loughgiel - a serious shame to have underpeformed on the day but as widely noted they don't owe anyone anything at all. Some team. Think you only know how crucial someone is when they are not there - Jonny Campbell's absence was felt...big time. The experience and leadership he has/shows is immense. Still must only be 30/31.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
He was missed alright. Not just defensively.  He always seems to have time for a wee look up the field before distributing the ball. A big loss on the day but a big loss to Antrim as well. The sort of hurler the county can scarcely do without. I wonder would he consider coming out of county retirement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 12, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 11, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is

North Antrim clubs have been given the first 9 dates for all county league. They start on 30th March, 2nd round the week after and third round on Easter weekend. North Antrim league starts next weekend and will run up to the start of ACHL and will resume again when ACHL takes a break for Leinster championship. North Antrim teams will be hurling every weekend to mid May, which is great

Do you have these ACHL dates as yet? If so could you stick up?

Is the North Antrim league being played on a Saturday/Sunday? Any fixtures/entrants for it?

Condolences for Loughgiel - a serious shame to have underpeformed on the day but as widely noted they don't owe anyone anything at all. Some team. Think you only know how crucial someone is when they are not there - Jonny Campbell's absence was felt...big time. The experience and leadership he has/shows is immense. Still must only be 30/31.

ACHL Dates:

30th March
5th April
19th or 21st April
10th May
14th May
4th June
11th June
18th June
22nd June
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
Decent enough spread of fixtures for the first phase only a few within 3 or 4 days of another. I suppose some will depend on how Antrim get on in Leinster/qualifiers etc, etc.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
Decent enough spread of fixtures for the first phase only a few within 3 or 4 days of another. I suppose some will depend on how Antrim get on in Leinster/qualifiers etc, etc.

And Down also lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
Decent enough spread of fixtures for the first phase only a few within 3 or 4 days of another. I suppose some will depend on how Antrim get on in Leinster/qualifiers etc, etc.

And Down also lol

Christy Ring is always on a saturday, club game on the sunday if Antrim aren't winning something or other.

Ulster council has fixed the Ulster championship already this year, wonder what provisions are in place for a draw, AET if neccessary!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on February 12, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
2 Sundays 2 Saturdays maybe a third if not 1 Monday and 4 Wednesdays
league is high priority for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2014, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
Decent enough spread of fixtures for the first phase only a few within 3 or 4 days of another. I suppose some will depend on how Antrim get on in Leinster/qualifiers etc, etc.

And Down also lol

Christy Ring is always on a saturday, club game on the sunday if Antrim aren't winning something or other.

Ulster council has fixed the Ulster championship already this year, wonder what provisions are in place for a draw, AET if neccessary!!

Next score the winner if its a draw AET  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 12, 2014, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 12, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 11, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is

North Antrim clubs have been given the first 9 dates for all county league. They start on 30th March, 2nd round the week after and third round on Easter weekend. North Antrim league starts next weekend and will run up to the start of ACHL and will resume again when ACHL takes a break for Leinster championship. North Antrim teams will be hurling every weekend to mid May, which is great

Do you have these ACHL dates as yet? If so could you stick up?

Is the North Antrim league being played on a Saturday/Sunday? Any fixtures/entrants for it?

Condolences for Loughgiel - a serious shame to have underpeformed on the day but as widely noted they don't owe anyone anything at all. Some team. Think you only know how crucial someone is when they are not there - Jonny Campbell's absence was felt...big time. The experience and leadership he has/shows is immense. Still must only be 30/31.

ACHL Dates:

30th March
5th April
19th or 21st April
10th May
14th May
4th June
11th June
18th June
22nd June

Cheers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
Lads could youse PM me your minor hurling managers numbers please, our minor manager is looking games and is willing to travel to the clubs.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 14, 2014, 11:21:03 PM
Are there any club pitches out there in the right nick for a decent game at the minute? Both our pitches closed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2014, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 14, 2014, 11:21:03 PM
Are there any club pitches out there in the right nick for a decent game at the minute? Both our pitches closed
Assume the Town is gonna be alright?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2014, 08:44:20 AM
Aye id say most pitches are closed. My garden is a swamp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 15, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2014, 11:37:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 14, 2014, 11:21:03 PM
Are there any club pitches out there in the right nick for a decent game at the minute? Both our pitches closed
Assume the Town is gonna be alright?

The sun has been out all day here today, and it is set fair for tomorrow so our pitch should be good to go. Serious amount of rain the last 3 weeks. If it had still been raining today and tomorrow I don't see how we could have played the national league game. Hope Antrim do the business. Expecting a big crowd if it stays dry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 03:36:19 PM
Well done  Creggan. Brilliant result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on February 15, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Really proud today of my wee club - Kickhams Creggan - All Ireland Champions.

The club has been putting a llot of work into youth hurling and football this last number of years, and it's great to see it pay off.

Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
Quote from: CSC on February 15, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Really proud today of my wee club - Kickhams Creggan - All Ireland Champions.

The club has been putting a llot of work into youth hurling and football this last number of years, and it's great to see it pay off.

Onwards and upwards


And so you should.


Hard work pays off and you've got your just rewards today.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 15, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
Quote from: CSC on February 15, 2014, 03:39:22 PM
Really proud today of my wee club - Kickhams Creggan - All Ireland Champions.

The club has been putting a llot of work into youth hurling and football this last number of years, and it's great to see it pay off.

Onwards and upwards


And so you should.


Hard work pays off and you've got your just rewards today.

Enjoy.

Great result and hopefully that will put Creggan hurling on the map, they have done the South West of Antrim proud and there will be some party in Creggan today, tonight and long into the week I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Congratulations to Creggan. Brilliant result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2014, 05:29:13 PM
Great to see an antrim team win an all ireland title. Well done Creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on February 16, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
Huge congrats to Creggan!! Saffrons Abu!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
Getting trimmed by a 14 man wexford team, great strides, my arse

Comeback on????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 03:53:50 PM
Well, relegation dog fight again, I would say we will now finish bottom after Laois result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 03:53:50 PM
Well, relegation dog fight again, I would say we will now finish bottom after Laois result
McManus taken off and brought back on again.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
that was the general consensus whee I was standing. No faith in the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
that was the general consensus whee I was standing. No faith in the panel.

Is that why we lost ya think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
that was the general consensus whee I was standing. No faith in the panel.

Is that why we lost ya think?
that and a distinct lack of talent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
that was the general consensus whee I was standing. No faith in the panel.

Is that why we lost ya think?
that and a distinct lack of talent.

I'd say the latter would have been a major factor in losing, granted it's never great when bringing on a player whos been subbed already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
So much for a strong panel chomping at the bit,  must not trust rest of the subs enough, hate seeing that
that was the general consensus whee I was standing. No faith in the panel.

Is that why we lost ya think?
that and a distinct lack of talent.

I'd say the latter would have been a major factor in losing, granted it's never great when bringing on a player whos been subbed already
no fight and no team spirit either. The big disappointment was that Wexford deserved to win, hurling with 14 men for 40 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on February 16, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
I was at the match today and I couldn't understand Antrim's tactics at all.  With the wind in the 1st half we played a 2 man full forward line and played a natural corner forward in midfield.  A few times we had chances for shots at the posts from 50-60 yards but we decided to pump ball continually into the wexford full back line and with the spare man there, the ball got cleared easily.

Then when Clarkie got took off, Mattie Donnelly went to c3q's and Conor Carson went into full forward line, which I think was a bad call by the sideline cause Lee Chin came well into the game and Conor Carson effect on the game waned.

When Wexford went down to 14 men (think decision was softish) we still let Wexford have a free man in the back line and we had 2 men spare who basically done nothing productive at all round the middle of the field.

I didnt see many positives at all today, apart from Woody, Ciaran Johnston, Conor Carson and Shorty from the team that started and Conor Johnstom and Eoghan Campbell when introduced went well.

Wexford were there for the taking we were very, very poor.  i think a long hard season is in store for the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Sarsfields lads do ok?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on February 16, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Sarsfields lads do ok?

In my opinion, were both a bit out of their depth but would like to see more of them.

McKernan was deployed as 3rd midfielder and it didnt seem to work for him.  McKenna linked well at times but lacked a bit of composure 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on February 16, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Sarsfields lads do ok?

In my opinion, were both a bit out of their depth but would like to see more of them.

McKernan was deployed as 3rd midfielder and it didnt seem to work for him.  McKenna linked well at times but lacked a bit of composure

They took some scores I heard, Nial has a bitta rawness about him and Daniel is a bit light but quality hurler, same mould as Clarke but Clarke a far better hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
Antrims tactics of playing a sweeper with the wind at their backs just baffled me. Kept pumping the ball into the Wexford backs. Was a really bad clash of strips today with Antrim wearing the black and saffron strip, can't have been easy for the players, certainly wasn't easy to pick players out watching from the sideline. Nice jersey, but play in the saffron at home!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
Was McManus not going well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
McManus had been yellow carded, given away a couple more frees, the ref noted this again in his book. He then got involved in the scuffle where the Wexford player got a straight red just before half time, I was expecting Neil to get a second yellow at that stage, so it was no surprise that he was subbed at half time as he was going to be sent off the next time he fouled. Was surprised to see him thrown back on again with 10 mins to go. Nearly got a draw at the end only for shorty to miss the difficult free
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 16, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 07:44:20 PM
McManus had been yellow carded, given away a couple more frees, the ref noted this again in his book. He then got involved in the scuffle where the Wexford player got a straight red just before half time, I was expecting Neil to get a second yellow at that stage, so it was no surprise that he was subbed at half time as he was going to be sent off the next time he fouled. Was surprised to see him thrown back on again with 10 mins to go. Nearly got a draw at the end only for shorty to miss the difficult free

Just not good enough, all this talk of improvement since two years ago under wallace is a load of s#it. Even then we beat wexford and stayed up without a playoff. Just look at sound bites each jan, feb and march for the last 5 to 10 years and the players say the same things and come out with the same catchy phrases each year, "new manager and hungry squad".  " put last year behind us and looking forward" ....... Same crap different year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 16, 2014, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 07:35:47 PM
Antrims tactics of playing a sweeper with the wind at their backs just baffled me. Kept pumping the ball into the Wexford backs. Was a really bad clash of strips today with Antrim wearing the black and saffron strip, can't have been easy for the players, certainly wasn't easy to pick players out watching from the sideline. Nice jersey, but play in the saffron at home!

Aye, was texting someone at it to find out the score and they said the jersey colours were confusing him on the sideline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 16, 2014, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on February 16, 2014, 05:54:03 PM
I was at the match today and I couldn't understand Antrim's tactics at all.  With the wind in the 1st half we played a 2 man full forward line and played a natural corner forward in midfield.  A few times we had chances for shots at the posts from 50-60 yards but we decided to pump ball continually into the wexford full back line and with the spare man there, the ball got cleared easily.

Then when Clarkie got took off, Mattie Donnelly went to c3q's and Conor Carson went into full forward line, which I think was a bad call by the sideline cause Lee Chin came well into the game and Conor Carson effect on the game waned.

When Wexford went down to 14 men (think decision was softish) we still let Wexford have a free man in the back line and we had 2 men spare who basically done nothing productive at all round the middle of the field.

I didnt see many positives at all today, apart from Woody, Ciaran Johnston, Conor Carson and Shorty from the team that started and Conor Johnstom and Eoghan Campbell when introduced went well.

Wexford were there for the taking we were very, very poor.  i think a long hard season is in store for the lads.

Not tactically astute today
All points made spot on. Even our puck outs where suspect. Kept  trying to hit mc Kenna in second half, Wexford copped on and put chin on him. Short puck outs didn't work either as our corner backs where predictable with deliveries. Sideline continued on from ulster final in leaving mc manus on the square. Didn't work in first( full back well on top) and didn't work in second half when he came back on. I think what he has to offer won't work at full forward.

A sweeping roll for more experienced players than young kevo.
Players who can feel ok after that shorty, Neil mc auley, woody and mc Kenna in spells
Bad performance on the sidelines too
Staying up could be a struggle this year when you look at Laois today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 09:21:54 PM
https://www.facebook.com/john.mcilwaine.142/posts/288162274668529:0

Look at this photo Curly put on Facebook and you will see the problem with the clash of jerseys

How do you add photos on this page?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 09:23:06 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/s403x403/1932379_288161708001919_47876861_n.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 16, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 16, 2014, 09:24:18 PM
Why the fcuk are we tackling our own players? FFS!

Beat me to it! >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 16, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 09:33:01 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/s403x403/1782077_10202368172020172_506876624_n.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 16, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
Curleys days as top tog are numbered  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 16, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
Curleys days as top tog are numbered  ;)

I didn't take this one lol, I've a few from the Loughgiel game and I don't even know how to get them on the computer lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
Lads. It's ok. It's a happy camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2014, 10:12:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
Lads. It's ok. It's a happy camp.

Good man sie. Sink the boot in your county again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 16, 2014, 10:17:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2014, 10:12:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
Lads. It's ok. It's a happy camp.

Good man sie. Sink the boot in your county again.

He can't help himself
Every time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:23:36 PM
Of course. It's my fault.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2014, 11:26:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:23:36 PM
Of course. It's my fault.  ::)
Winker's actually  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.

What? Bashing the Antrim team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2014, 11:27:10 PM
Three years what exactly has been going on? Spit it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Are you just in frae The Pound SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2014, 10:12:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 10:08:16 PM
Lads. It's ok. It's a happy camp.

Good man sie. Sink the boot in your county again.
this is what our captain said. Do you doubt it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
Here lads, It's not my fault.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Are you just in frae The Pound SIE?
i don't drink In the pound tony.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:39:15 PM
Sure vent your frustrations on to me. That'll make it ok. Unreal reaction lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.

What? Bashing the Antrim team?
false hope and promises. Look at what gizzy said. Same old same old.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.

What? Bashing the Antrim team?
false hope and promises. Look at what gizzy said. Same old same old.

We are a million miles away from an all Ireland appearance, so it's the same old story every year, would you much prefer a manager that came out and said we are shit we are never going to beat anyone decent and there absolutely no point in trying?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 12:08:15 AM
I'd rather have a manager who picked the squad.

By the way, is it ok to post pics taking the piss
Out of the current Antrim team?
It's funny how that's funny.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 17, 2014, 04:28:57 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.


No, its not SIE fault and its not 3 years, its 21 years and wer
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 16, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Three years this has been going on.


No, its not SIE fault and its not 3 years, its 21 years and were not competitive because we havent invested enough in our development. Bugets all shot to shit with dunsilly and casement and the CB like to use that smokescreene. This year our u_14 were of a too standard down at waterford, but our county will just hope they develoo, when clare done the same thing bout 6 years ago they pilled a few quid into those kids development, got 2 u21 all irelands and a senior all,ireland, they didnt just hope, they invested
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
++1
The bean counters up in casement haven't got that sort of ambition. It all about the money then a about concrete and empires.

Now the mortgage needs paid at Dunsilly so no chance of it changing



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 12:08:15 AM
I'd rather have a manager who picked the squad.

By the way, is it ok to post pics taking the piss
Out of the current Antrim team?
It's funny how that's funny.  ::)

It's showing that the kit was similar, I don't think it's funny I think it was daft, it can happen though, somethings are over looked, very easy to give off about things looking in from the outside, are you telling us that the manager of the Antrim team is not picking the team? Very strange don't you think? Did PJ pick the Loughgiel team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 09:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 12:08:15 AM
I'd rather have a manager who picked the squad.

By the way, is it ok to post pics taking the piss
Out of the current Antrim team?
It's funny how that's funny.  ::)

It's showing that the kit was similar, I don't think it's funny I think it was daft, it can happen though, somethings are over looked, very easy to give off about things looking in from the outside, are you telling us that the manager of the Antrim team is not picking the team? Very strange don't you think? Did PJ pick the Loughgiel team
i said squad mr2. Certain senior players (one in particular) have way too much influence on who gets selected and who doesn't. Until that's sorted we'll continue to go down the path we're going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 09:19:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 09:03:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 12:08:15 AM
I'd rather have a manager who picked the squad.

By the way, is it ok to post pics taking the piss
Out of the current Antrim team?
It's funny how that's funny.  ::)

It's showing that the kit was similar, I don't think it's funny I think it was daft, it can happen though, somethings are over looked, very easy to give off about things looking in from the outside, are you telling us that the manager of the Antrim team is not picking the team? Very strange don't you think? Did PJ pick the Loughgiel team
i said squad mr2. Certain senior players (one in particular) have way too much influence on who gets selected and who doesn't. Until that's sorted we'll continue to go down the path we're going.

What a load of dribble
I can't make any sense of that statement at all
Bar one LG player who's history of county involvement was dictated by his attitude ( even before any current players where involved) I can't think of a worthy player excluded due to internal politics

Could you change the record please as your post radiate a certain satisfaction with bad results.
Take your bitterness elsewhere. This thread is called Antrim Hurling and most posters in here want them to do well regardless of the realities
You could start your own antrim bashing thread and leave us to it here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 09:22:03 AM
Ok. I'll bury my head in the sand the same as the rest of you.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 17, 2014, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.
so sad to hear this. Great hurler, great fella.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.

Yes just heard that the morning SG, terrible news, big blow to the Cushendall hurling family
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Rest in peace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
Big blow to anyone who knew the man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2014, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.
Rest in peace

No way. That's awful. I didn't even know he was ill. RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
RIP James, fantastic wing back for Antrim and the Dall, shocked to hear that, he couldn't be much more that early to mid 50's.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 09:44:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 17, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
RIP James, fantastic wing back for Antrim and the Dall, shocked to hear that, he couldn't be much more that early to mid 50's.

51, very young
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/bennett-slams-crazy-dismissal-of-son-258970.html

Ballysaggart taking the beating bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 10:32:20 AM
He'd his work cut out for him this day!!

Great hurler

(http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/07/antrim-8-630x494.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/bennett-slams-crazy-dismissal-of-son-258970.html

Ballysaggart taking the beating bad

Aye that earlier. What an asshole, when you're beat you're beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2014, 10:32:20 AM
He'd his work cut out for him this day!!

Great hurler

(http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/07/antrim-8-630x494.jpg)
he did indeed.  Loved the challange no doubt.  Spoke with him many a time about that Antrim team, everyone of them would have killed for one another. But again come club would have killed each other.  No bullshit.  Pure old school.  Pure class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Lads just heard past Antrim great and current c dall manager passed away early this morning.  Rest in peace James mc naughton,  one of finest men I've ever shared company with.  Thoughts and prayers are with the family.

That is terrible news. He was a real legend in his time. One of the famous Cushendall half back line who were imperious thoughout the 80's. A 100% hurling man and a tough but true gent. He will long be remembered by all who knew him.

Enjoy the day in front of you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 17, 2014, 11:24:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 17, 2014, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 17, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/bennett-slams-crazy-dismissal-of-son-258970.html

Ballysaggart taking the beating bad
[/quot
That's brilliant.
just seen this on FB.  Jesus your mans a clown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 17, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
A sad morning as another true saffron great passes away. Sincere condolences to McNaughton  and McCallin families on their huge loss. Rest in peace legend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 17, 2014, 01:53:50 PM
Not only was James McNaughton a legend of Cushendall, Antrim and Ulster hurling, but he was a beautiful person too. A very humble and extremely mild mannered man. Interesting to talk to and funny too. The sidelines of the Antrim championship will be an eerie place in the 2014 championship because everyone will know he should have been there. Today is a sad day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 17, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 17, 2014, 01:53:50 PM
Not only was James McNaughton a legend of Cushendall, Antrim and Ulster hurling, but he was a beautiful person too. A very humble and extremely mild mannered man. Interesting to talk to and funny too. The sidelines of the Antrim championship will be an eerie place in the 2014 championship because everyone will know he should have been there. Today is a sad day.

well said,

i second that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on February 17, 2014, 09:04:05 PM
Very sorry to hear about James McNaughton's sudden passing. A superb hurler in a great Cushendall halfback line. He's now joined his brother Danny, the Dall's finest hurler in many people's books and they'll be taking their places together on God's 15. May they rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 18, 2014, 02:47:47 PM
RIP James.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 19, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
very sad news

he was at senior training on sunday and that evening was in hospital and then he was just gone.

a very nice man and a brilliant hurler as well. i rem growing up as a kid in the late 80's early 90's and admiring Jame, Woody and L McKeegan in the antrim half back line. all strong men and brilliant hurlers.

Rest in Peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 19, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
So Winker is for a "top county" according to today's Irish News  :o  The Dubs????

On a much more serious note, Rest in Peace James McNaughton. A fine hurler and by all accounts a fine man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
I see the Waterford team are appealing for a replay due to player eligibility issues over the goal scorer Small from Creggan.  Apparently their issue is that he was not ineligible for the Final as he didn't play in the JHC last year because he was under 16 at the time and therefore too young.  He is now 16 and played in the three recent games.  Surely there is no case to answer here as this is a new year and if new rules can be applied to competitions that span two calendar years then there should be flexibility in cases like this.  He wasn;t eligible last year and didn't play, but since January he is eligible and did.  Seems like Creggan played by the rules.  Did they not win the All Ireland JHC 2014?  You'd wonder how much nit picking officials from the Waterford team had to do to find something like this to appeal? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 19, 2014, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 19, 2014, 10:49:21 AM
So Winker is for a "top county" according to today's Irish News  :o  The Dubs????

On a much more serious note, Rest in Peace James McNaughton. A fine hurler and by all accounts a fine man.
Well, he's not getting selected for his own county.  ;)

I don't know how much of that article is fact. It's the Irish news, so I'll not take too much heed until I hear otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?

Probably a good few cases of it, the one I remember was the Ulster Minor Club a few years ago when Cavan Gaels appealed against Ballinderry, think it might have been against Ryan Bell being too young at the time.  Nothing but embarassing for any club crying about someone bing too young.  But surely if it is seen as the one competition then rules can't be changed midway through it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Would be sad to see them lose it because of this. I wonder if he hadn't have scored 1.03 would there be any objections. I think if bennet fielded a team that let a 16 year old footballer (his words) score that  I wouldn't be doing this

Very poor form from ballysaggart
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 19, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?

Probably a good few cases of it, the one I remember was the Ulster Minor Club a few years ago when Cavan Gaels appealed against Ballinderry, think it might have been against Ryan Bell being too young at the time.  Nothing but embarassing for any club crying about someone bing too young.  But surely if it is seen as the one competition then rules can't be changed midway through it.

don't see how they have a case, sour grapes and unfair on Creggan.  Rules do change during competitions, in 2008 we played the Ulster final and 7 players wore no faceguard in the next round everyone had too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
What it states though that the competition is one competition as he wasn't over the age of 16 till after January the first 2014 so having not played prior to that then not eligible, on that could a player (who never played in that competition with former club) be transferred from one club to another after January and be allowed to play?

In all honesty as a manager I wouldn't take that chance unless I got a written response from Croke Park that I can play a player who would fall into that category. Not worth the hassle, it's serious sour grapes by the Waterford team but he did score 1-3 and Creggan won by 4. I don't think they will lose it but may have to replay it possibly. Will that be a separate competition lol?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 19, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?

Probably a good few cases of it, the one I remember was the Ulster Minor Club a few years ago when Cavan Gaels appealed against Ballinderry, think it might have been against Ryan Bell being too young at the time.  Nothing but embarassing for any club crying about someone bing too young.  But surely if it is seen as the one competition then rules can't be changed midway through it.
All sorts of rules have changed halfway through. Black card, gumshields etc.

Also, the age rule hasn't changed. The player has just become eligible. Like a suspended player would.

That was my point, that if black cards, gumshields, helmets being mandatory, blood subs etc can all be introduced at the start of January in any given year and applied to a the remaining games of a competition that they weren't originally applied to then I can't see how this players eligibility is an issue as they obided by the rules in 2013 and didn't play him but did in 2014.  How would this have even been noticed by the Waterford team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2014, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
What it states though that the competition is one competition as he wasn't over the age of 16 till after January the first 2014 so having not played prior to that then not eligible, on that could a player (who never played in that competition with former club) be transferred from one club to another after January and be allowed to play?

In all honesty as a manager I wouldn't take that chance unless I got a written response from Croke Park that I can play a player who would fall into that category. Not worth the hassle, it's serious sour grapes by the Waterford team but he did score 1-3 and Creggan won by 4. I don't think they will lose it but may have to replay it possibly. Will that be a separate competition lol?

I'd give them the trophy and let them enjoy it, if it came to it. Cringeworthy stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on February 19, 2014, 01:14:12 PM
We checked this very rule out last year before All Ireland JHC semi final. Ulster Council confirmed the lads in question are no longer in the u16 grade and could play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2014, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 01:06:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 19, 2014, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 19, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?

Probably a good few cases of it, the one I remember was the Ulster Minor Club a few years ago when Cavan Gaels appealed against Ballinderry, think it might have been against Ryan Bell being too young at the time.  Nothing but embarassing for any club crying about someone bing too young.  But surely if it is seen as the one competition then rules can't be changed midway through it.
All sorts of rules have changed halfway through. Black card, gumshields etc.

Also, the age rule hasn't changed. The player has just become eligible. Like a suspended player would.

That was my point, that if black cards, gumshields, helmets being mandatory, blood subs etc can all be introduced at the start of January in any given year and applied to a the remaining games of a competition that they weren't originally applied to then I can't see how this players eligibility is an issue as they obided by the rules in 2013 and didn't play him but did in 2014.  How would this have even been noticed by the Waterford team?

In the antrim post he got man of the match and he's only sixteen
I'd say our press unintentionally informed them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 01:39:52 PM
Between that newspaper article and this Ballysaggart are not covering themselves in glory here. Pathetic stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 01:39:52 PM
Between that newspaper article and this Ballysaggart are not covering themselves in glory here. Pathetic stuff.

In one hand he's shot himself in the foot with all the nonsense he claimed about the referee and the county (Wicklow), if I or say a ex referee or Wicklow native was sitting on that CCCC he'll find it tough getting a vote from him!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 19, 2014, 01:44:37 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/ballysaggart-seeking-final-replay-259263.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 19, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 01:39:52 PM
Between that newspaper article and this Ballysaggart are not covering themselves in glory here. Pathetic stuff.

In one hand he's shot himself in the foot with all the nonsense he claimed about the referee and the county (Wicklow), if I or say a ex referee or Wicklow native was sitting on that CCCC he'll find it tough getting a vote from him!!

Same referee did the Leinster minor hurling final last year as well as the Leinster club final with MLR and Oulart, so you'd think he'd be up to refereeing an AI junior hurling final even if he does referee the odd football game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 19, 2014, 02:06:38 PM
Embarrassing stuff from Ballysaggart. A 16 year old lad played therefore we couldn't beat them over 2 matches and ET  ::) :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 19, 2014, 02:06:38 PM
Embarrassing stuff from Ballysaggart. A 16 year old lad played therefore we couldn't beat them over 2 matches and ET  ::) :-[

That's the pathetic part of it. It's i good job kickhams  didn't throw on some of there u14s or they would of beat ballysaggart out the gate.
This is nearly as laughable as derrytresk from Tyrone getting 4 players banned for their all Ireland because Declan o Sullivan got clocked with a handbag

Those pesky northerners you couldn't be up to them LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 19, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
It is embarrasing in the extreme for Ballysaggart but how i think they will push the moral point is by saying  "we had good 16 year olds too but played by the rules and didnt field them" .



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 19, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
It is embarrasing in the extreme for Ballysaggart but how i think they will push the moral point is by saying  "we had good 16 year olds too but played by the rules and didnt field them" .

He already stated he'd several 16 years he could have played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 19, 2014, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 19, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
It is embarrasing in the extreme for Ballysaggart but how i think they will push the moral point is by saying  "we had good 16 year olds too but played by the rules and didnt field them" .

He already stated he'd several 16 years he could have played

There you go then. Still embarrassing for them though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 19, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2014, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 19, 2014, 11:14:30 AM
That's pathetic if true.

That news article was a joke too. If you can't beat a team over a full game, extra time and a replay then you don't deserve to be AI champions.

Really sour grapes all in all.

Rule 6.24 does state however : The County, Provincial and All-Ireland Stages of
the respective Club Senior, Intermediate and Junior
Football and Hurling Championships constitute the one
Competition

Was there not something like this before?

Ballysaggart really are an embarrassment, never heard as much crying from a beaten team in my life. I hope their appeal fails. If they win their appeal there will be really bad blood at any potential replay. Creggan would probably have to play their semi final again as well because the wee lad played that day too. What a mess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on February 19, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
Lecale 2 is right. Bredagh had the exact same situation last year in the 2013 AI JHC SF and Conor Costello was deemed to be eligible, despite being U16 in 2012. What a bunch of poor losers Ballysaggart are. A total embarrassment to the game of hurling, with their antic and despicable sportsmanship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2014, 08:52:55 AM
Ballysaggart have really let themselfs down with this, more so their manager who has come accross as a real bad loser.

the lad played in the semi final and no objection and they knew his age then as it was well spashed over the press about him being 16 and scoring. utter sour grapes and nothing more.

move along, nothing to see here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 11:42:00 AM
I suppose our politicians would call all of this the "letter and spirit of the law".

Ballysaggart will now always be known for this incredible debacle more than anything on the pitch - and the GAA need to get the basics sorted out in terms of water-tight rules and not just on this matter.

Creggan are all-Ireland champions I don't think that will ever be taken from those lads and more power to them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 11:42:00 AM
I suppose our politicians would call all of this the "letter and spirit of the law".

Ballysaggart will now always be known for this incredible debacle more than anything on the pitch - and the GAA need to get the basics sorted out in terms of water-tight rules and not just on this matter.

Creggan are all-Ireland champions I don't think that will ever be taken from those lads and more power to them!

Is bennet the editor of the irish examiner
Or why are they on a crusade fir ballysaggart
More this morning
Another underage player Donal Carey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 11:42:00 AM
I suppose our politicians would call all of this the "letter and spirit of the law".

Ballysaggart will now always be known for this incredible debacle more than anything on the pitch - and the GAA need to get the basics sorted out in terms of water-tight rules and not just on this matter.

Creggan are all-Ireland champions I don't think that will ever be taken from those lads and more power to them!

Is bennet the editor of the irish examiner
Or why are they on a crusade fir ballysaggart
More this morning
Another underage player Donal Carey

Would it matter if it were 15 players of the same age as Carey and Small?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Winker going to an 'unnamed big hurling county' eh??

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033)


He'll need to transfer clubs as well, just like Seany Johnston did to Kildare, hard to see that happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Winker going to an 'unnamed big hurling county' eh??

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033)


He'll need to transfer clubs as well, just like Seany Johnston did to Kildare, hard to see that happening.

Would he get on the Dublin team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 03:06:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
Winker going to an 'unnamed big hurling county' eh??

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210033)


He'll need to transfer clubs as well, just like Seany Johnston did to Kildare, hard to see that happening.

Would he get on the Dublin team?

Not a chance
It won't happen anyway Dublin fans don't want him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
He said that himself on twitter About not being guaranteed a place. Interesting what PJ had to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
He said that himself on twitter About not being guaranteed a place. Interesting what PJ had to say.

Pretty similar to what you put on here recently, any correlation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
He said that himself on twitter About not being guaranteed a place. Interesting what PJ had to say.

I read PJ s input, why did he stop at Kevin Ryan
Sure every other antrim manager either wouldn't take him or got rid of him. Good luck to him with Dublin. I hope he gets on the panel and gets his place. I for one don't feel it's a big loss to antrim going on past experience
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
Must we indulge the man?

We would do better in Antrim to focus on getting our development squad structures improved. If we could get the funding and the man power to bring year in year out progression all the way up to U21 where our younger teams learn to commit properly, train properly, get looked after properly and mix it with the established counties from a young age, that's bound to bring an improvement in our play at Senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 20, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
He said that himself on twitter About not being guaranteed a place. Interesting what PJ had to say.

Pretty similar to what you put on here recently, any correlation?
none at all. Simply what's been going on Johnny. Common knowledge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 06:24:59 PM
So basically there's now a transfer system in the GAA?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on February 20, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
Liam has undoubted ability, and is on his day is one of the best forwards in Ulster.

If he transfers to another intercounty team, then this means he has to have a permanent address in that county and also needs to transfer to a club in that county.

Also if i'm not mistaken, he also needs to play a championship match for his club in his adopted county before he can hurl intercounty.

I can't see this happening, so i'd Liam will be hurling for Loughgiel come September.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 07:29:03 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on February 20, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
Liam has undoubted ability, and is on his day is one of the best forwards in Ulster.

If he transfers to another intercounty team, then this means he has to have a permanent address in that county and also needs to transfer to a club in that county.

Also if i'm not mistaken, he also needs to play a championship match for his club in his adopted county before he can hurl intercounty.

I can't see this happening, so i'd Liam will be hurling for Loughgiel come September.

If they get past the first round ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
So basically this is a PR exercise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
So basically this is a PR exercise.
Dublin are interested alright. Up to winker. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 20, 2014, 08:06:30 PM
So who is picking the Antrim panel for Ryan, McManus I take it ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 20, 2014, 08:14:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
So basically this is a PR exercise.
Dublin are interested alright. Up to winker.
Is he working in Dublin or are they just gonna pay him a wagemileage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:20:47 PM
Liam Watson can't play for Antrim because Neil mc manus wants to be the only show in town - and Kevin Ryan permits this.

Watson forces the issue a bit more with a link to Dublin (real or not).

All oh so very soccer might I suggest?

Funny how more successful counties manage without these soap operas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 20, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
Do you have any substance to prove this theory about Neil McManus?

Maybe the panel don't want Watson on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2014, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
So basically this is a PR exercise.
Dublin are interested alright. Up to winker.

Aye right SIE
This is some circus act you're part of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 20, 2014, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 20, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
So basically this is a PR exercise.
Dublin are interested alright. Up to winker.

Aye right SIE
This is some circus act you're part of

It's unreal
This actually isn't funny. I really worry for  the said player, he seems to live his life like he's in a movie or something and when the camera isn't rolling there's attention withdrawal symptoms. People playing along are not helping. I kinda feel sorry for him and think other contributors should know better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2014, 09:42:52 PM


County Board Statement: No approach made to Liam Watson   20/02/2014

In light of growing speculation the Dublin County Board wishes to state that neither the Dublin senior hurling management nor the Dublin County Board have made any approaches to Loughiel hurler, Liam Watson, with regard to him transferring his county or club allegiances.

Taken from www.hill16.ie


From Hurling thread

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
They're hardly likely to come out and say they phoned up, now are they? The phone call was made. But sure, I'm glad. He'll be up here hurling away for us. Good stuff. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
They're hardly likely to come out and say they phoned up, now are they? The phone call was made. But sure, I'm glad. He'll be up here hurling away for us. Good stuff.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210074

Yeah yeah we know, it's all subject to your perceived reality or delusion in this case


Any real news out there anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
They're hardly likely to come out and say they phoned up, now are they? The phone call was made. But sure, I'm glad. He'll be up here hurling away for us. Good stuff.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=210074

Yeah yeah we know, it's all subject to your perceived reality or delusion in this case


Any real news out there anyone
They also spelt Loughgiel wrong again. Inexcusable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 20, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
They're hardly likely to come out and say they phoned up, now are they? The phone call was made. But sure, I'm glad. He'll be up here hurling away for us. Good stuff.

And in regards to the ethics of any such arrangements, this is good stuff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 07:25:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 20, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 20, 2014, 09:48:45 PM
They're hardly likely to come out and say they phoned up, now are they? The phone call was made. But sure, I'm glad. He'll be up here hurling away for us. Good stuff.

And in regards to the ethics of any such arrangements, this is good stuff?
playing for loughgiel, good stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 21, 2014, 07:30:43 AM
If the rumours about Liam Watson's proposed transfer to Dublin are true, does the 'Seanie Johnson' rule not come into force here?

Would that mean he may have to transfer to a Dublin club in order to play championship for Dublin.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 07:25:11 AM
playing for loughgiel, good stuff.

You already told us that. My question was about the ethics of such arrangements? Is this a good GAA story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 07:25:11 AM
playing for loughgiel, good stuff.

You already told us that. My question was about the ethics of such arrangements? Is this a good GAA story?
You'd be better directing that question to the county management team who instigated the whole process. What about the ethics of not selecting the best forward in the county because of personality clashes and senior players' unwillingness to move on the matter?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 07:25:11 AM
playing for loughgiel, good stuff.

You already told us that. My question was about the ethics of such arrangements? Is this a good GAA story?
You'd be better directing that question to the county management team who instigated the whole process. What about the ethics of not selecting the best forward in the county because of personality clashes and senior players' unwillingness to move on the matter?
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Narcistic
Some people diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance. They have a sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a strong need for admiration, but lack feelings of empathy.[4]

Does this ring a bell anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 09:15:49 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
You'd be better directing that question to the county management team who instigated the whole process. What about the ethics of not selecting the best forward in the county because of personality clashes and senior players' unwillingness to move on the matter?

So you don't want to give your views on the ethical dimension to this approach (which is nothing more than a rumour denied by dublin)?

This is a nothing story that will go nowhere (i.e it will not happen), but is stirring the pot in the media rather than doing some behind the scenes work to see if something can be worked out. Typical I suppose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 12:26:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
You'd be better directing that question to the county management team who instigated the whole process. What about the ethics of not selecting the best forward in the county because of personality clashes and senior players' unwillingness to move on the matter?

So you don't want to give your views on the ethical dimension to this approach (which is nothing more than a rumour denied by dublin)?

This is a nothing story that will go nowhere (i.e it will not happen), but is stirring the pot in the media rather than doing some behind the scenes work to see if something can be worked out. Typical I suppose
Moves have been attempted but rebuffed. Too many people too comfortable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 21, 2014, 12:35:39 PM
Is PJ Senior not on the selection panel with Kevin Ryan and horse any more?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 01:04:12 PM
CCCC meeting next week again to come to a decision about Creggan after an investigation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
Nail on head, but you can't fill pages calling it like it is, so not much chance of this story being put to bed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said

I guess there are varying degrees of knuckling down though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2014, 01:04:12 PM
CCCC meeting next week again to come to a decision about Creggan after an investigation.

I think they are going to be ok.  There are examples of other clubs doing the same thing but then the corridors of croke park are funny bunch when it comes to consistency
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said

I guess there are varying degrees of knuckling down though  ;)

4 County titles on the spin, 4 Ulsters and Man of the Match performances in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final which they won.  There isn't too many in the parish unhappy with that tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said

I guess there are varying degrees of knuckling down though  ;)

4 County titles on the spin, 4 Ulsters and Man of the Match performances in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final and copious amounts of texts  :) which they won.  There isn't too many in the parish unhappy with that tbh.

Fixed that for you Gael  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2014, 04:06:36 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said

I guess there are varying degrees of knuckling down though  ;)

4 County titles on the spin, 4 Ulsters and Man of the Match performances in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final which they won.  There isn't too many in the parish unhappy with that tbh.

Some could say 5 loses on the spin, sent off in Croke Park for Antrim and poor game against both Loughglin Gaels and MLR but that wouldn't be right ;)

This is daft Liam could pack it in altogether and would owe his club nothing, he's been a cracker hurler who I've enjoyed playing against and watched, most mavericks have their moments I know I could say the same about ones closer to home but I won't in case he come back on again and gives me abuse lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

Thank god a LG man with a balanced view well said

I guess there are varying degrees of knuckling down though  ;)

4 County titles on the spin, 4 Ulsters and Man of the Match performances in an All Ireland Semi-Final and Final and copious amounts of texts  :) which they won.  There isn't too many in the parish unhappy with that tbh.

Fixed that for you Gael  ;D

I'm lost. I'm sure it's suitably witty though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on February 22, 2014, 08:31:09 AM
Re Creggan Scenario, as harsh as it may seem if an illegal player (for whatever reason) played against your team in an All Ireland game and your team lost, you would want your club to appeal.  It's easy to to sit back and ridicule the Waterford team - how many clubs would hand on heart say they wouldn't do the same. You couldn't really answer this until you were in this situation yourself.

Re Mr Watson, you can't have the tail wagging the dog.  Any player good enough and that wants to play for their County shouldn't be turned away based on their past.  Every year is a new year and unless the current manager has a genuine reason not to select him, he is wrong in my book.  As it has been pointed out its been 21 barron years, like him or hate him, you are going to need players of Watson's ability to have any impact at county level.  I can recall Watson pulling the strings against Wexford a few years ago in Dunloy, he was majestic that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2014, 08:33:07 AM
You're correct on all points Hirty but but it hasn't been deemed that creggan have actually broken any rules yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2014, 10:47:59 AM
An illegal player to me is someone who is not affiliated with the club who lines out for them. A 16 year old clubman coming of age and stepping out at senior to help his club win an all Ireland is not someone I would describe as an illegal player more so a hero.

Ethically Creggan did nothing wrong. No different a long term injured player coming back and influencing the games in the AI series. Ballysaggart need to think past the first point ...ie if the powers that be side with them in regards to their interpretation of the rules, what satisfaction and contentment will they get from such a decision? Will they enjoy this victory? Will their reputation be tarnished? Will they hang their heads in shame when their all Ireland title is mentioned?

I would like to think most clubs wouldn't complain about a young local hero from another club losing them an all ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 22, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
If I were on the Ballysaggart committee I'd be embarrassed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2014, 01:31:47 PM
They should have been embarrassed enough after their manager/selector's rant in the press about the referee and the Creggan "footballers" to resurface for a while. Unfortunately, embarrassment doesn't seem to be in their vocabulary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2014, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.
bennett seems to have made this a personal crusade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 02:47:01 PM
Appears that way. Really hope nothing comes of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.

I think it might be done at this stage. Ballysaggart's objection appears to have been ruled out of time. The Examiner reporting that, even if no valid objection, the GAA "may" still look into it. However, it now seems that Portumna fielded a 16 year old in their semi. Whatever about stiffing Creggan, there is no way Portumna will be ejected from the senior. They couldn't treat the two situations any differently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 23, 2014, 05:07:53 AM
Must get a look at MLR team sheet :o ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on February 23, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
has been a while and I am not going to trawl through the pages of no doubt high brow stuff.....  See MR2 still putting little snap shots in of what was undoubtedly a marvelous career !!!!!

was in Ballycastle last week, antrim disappointing.  However left the town that day horrified at a decision made by kevin Ryan

to reintroduce a sub he had already taken off for having a shit day at the office.  What sort of message does that send out to the bench / panel.   I assume there were other able bodies ready to play.

I do fear the worst today against limerick.  Or no doubt we will play with 2 extra defenders.  when wexford were down to 14 we still had a couple of extra men marking each other in the half back / midfield line. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 11:18:12 AM
Careful now saffron. Don't you know you can't be a happy camp supporter and post negative things about the whole situation?  Onwards and upwards, or not as the case will be.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.

I think it might be done at this stage. Ballysaggart's objection appears to have been ruled out of time. The Examiner reporting that, even if no valid objection, the GAA "may" still look into it. However, it now seems that Portumna fielded a 16 year old in their semi. Whatever about stiffing Creggan, there is no way Portumna will be ejected from the senior. They couldn't treat the two situations any differently.

The examiner seem to be going to town on this - wonder what their angle is.

Sie it's one thing to be negative and not have faith -  i had no faith in the footballers under dawson. However you seem to time your digs until defeat. We were beat by one point against wexford and maybe all is not rosy in the garden but if we were to have sneaked a win you would probably have said nothing. You seem to time to time your digs and be an "i told you so and i knew it "person. That is why people take exception - it's almost like you take some value from your county getting beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on February 23, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
has been a while and I am not going to trawl through the pages of no doubt high brow stuff.....  See MR2 still putting little snap shots in of what was undoubtedly a marvelous career !!!!!

was in Ballycastle last week, antrim disappointing.  However left the town that day horrified at a decision made by kevin Ryan

to reintroduce a sub he had already taken off for having a shit day at the office.  What sort of message does that send out to the bench / panel.   I assume there were other able bodies ready to play.

I do fear the worst today against limerick.  Or no doubt we will play with 2 extra defenders.  when wexford were down to 14 we still had a couple of extra men marking each other in the half back / midfield line.

It's not over yet, plenty more stories to tell about my marvelous career!! Next time your in the club we can share stories
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.

I think it might be done at this stage. Ballysaggart's objection appears to have been ruled out of time. The Examiner reporting that, even if no valid objection, the GAA "may" still look into it. However, it now seems that Portumna fielded a 16 year old in their semi. Whatever about stiffing Creggan, there is no way Portumna will be ejected from the senior. They couldn't treat the two situations any differently.

The examiner seem to be going to town on this - wonder what their angle is.

Sie it's one thing to be negative and not have faith -  i had no faith in the footballers under dawson. However you seem to time your digs until defeat. We were beat by one point against wexford and maybe all is not rosy in the garden but if we were to have sneaked a win you would probably have said nothing. You seem to time to time your digs and be an "i told you so and i knew it "person. That is why people take exception - it's almost like you take some value from your county getting beat.
I take exception to the drivel that keeps getting publicised in the press, on here and elsewhere. Week, after week.  I'm afraid the truth hurts. This current Antrim set up is not working and hasn't been for god knows how Long. Whilst players continue to have a say on who gets selected for the team then I'm afraid it'll continue thus. I'm not happy about it, and neither should you be.  Players aren't being selected because of personality clashes and down right jealousy. Take a look at what happened at Antrim training when the Loughgiel hurlers returned to the Antrim fold after winning the all Ireland. Yes, I'm afraid that really did happen.

Do you think everyone in Galway loves joe canning? Or everyone in Kilkenny loves tommy Walsh?  Of course not. We also don't have the talent in numbers to leave players of proven exceptional quality out of the panel.  Simple as that.

I'll ask you one question. Is this Antrim team lining out today the best team we can field? Enough said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 12:40:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 22, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 22, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
It's not over yet. The whole thing is an embarassment. That interview with Bennett was bad enough never mind this.

I think it might be done at this stage. Ballysaggart's objection appears to have been ruled out of time. The Examiner reporting that, even if no valid objection, the GAA "may" still look into it. However, it now seems that Portumna fielded a 16 year old in their semi. Whatever about stiffing Creggan, there is no way Portumna will be ejected from the senior. They couldn't treat the two situations any differently.

The examiner seem to be going to town on this - wonder what their angle is.

Sie it's one thing to be negative and not have faith -  i had no faith in the footballers under dawson. However you seem to time your digs until defeat. We were beat by one point against wexford and maybe all is not rosy in the garden but if we were to have sneaked a win you would probably have said nothing. You seem to time to time your digs and be an "i told you so and i knew it "person. That is why people take exception - it's almost like you take some value from your county getting beat.
I take exception to the drivel that keeps getting publicised in the press, on here and elsewhere. Week, after week.  I'm afraid the truth hurts. This current Antrim set up is not working and hasn't been for god knows how Long. Whilst players continue to have a say on who gets selected for the team then I'm afraid it'll continue thus. I'm not happy about it, and neither should you be.  Players aren't being selected because of personality clashes and down right jealousy. Take a look at what happened at Antrim training when the Loughgiel hurlers returned to the Antrim fold after winning the all Ireland. Yes, I'm afraid that really did happen.

Do you think everyone in Galway loves joe canning? Or everyone in Kilkenny loves tommy Walsh?  Of course not. We also don't have the talent in numbers to leave players of proven exceptional quality out of the panel.  Simple as that.

I'll ask you one question. Is this Antrim team lining out today the best team we can field? Enough said.

Well get off your arse and get involved, nothing will happen sitting behind a screen. Complaining about something and not willing to do something about it is daft, the I told you so's is stupid. The Antrim team lining out today is the team that has put the effort in over the winter months and who made themselves available for selection, Loughgiel lads I'm sure if they wanted to could have made themselves available, who didn't? Did JC, NMcG Winker and rest go to the meetings at the start and commit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 12:46:51 PM
You can't go if you're not selected mr2, as I've told you countless times. Jc and js have both quit Antrim. What happened two years ago has had a big say on the Loughgiel players attitude towards this Antrim set up. They said they'd return after the all Ireland series. In fact they've said that from day one. And in that regard, no different to any other set of players from any club who have been in a similar situation. It seems that the attitude is different when it comes to selecting loughgiel players for some reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on February 23, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
I've not seen big Hippys name on teamsheets this year. Is recovering from an injury? big lose of the town and county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 01:17:27 PM
He's a big loss indeed. I'll put another question out there. No doubt it'll go down like a lead balloon.  ::)

On form alone should the Antrim management be considering dropping Neil McManus? He was awful in the county final Last year and has been struggling at the start of this year. Last weeks performance compounded this. Just a throw out there thought.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
I have to agree with some selective points from SiE.

1) this is clearly not the best team available to Antrim
2) there is obviously not harmony between management/players and the shamrocks - we can debate reasons for this but ultimately Antrim is the loser
3) clearly Neil mc manus has a huge role in this set-up over and above that of a player. Why? And I can't see this being a positive thing.

Hippy Donnelly is travelling at the moment - well he's not in ballycastle anyway.

We were once able to stay up in div1.
We are now firmly a div2 team - no longer capable of competing consistently with the top teams and now below Wexford Offaly. Instead of being routine wins Carlow Westmeath Laois provide stern tests.
Question - why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on February 23, 2014, 02:01:21 PM
Cheers btdtgtt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2014, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 21, 2014, 01:05:26 PM
This whole Winker / Dublin thing is a nonsense.

If he truly wanted to be playing County hurling he would be playing.  He has walked off panels / fell out with nearly every manager he was involved with.

I for one am happy he has knuckled down with Loughgiel the past few years.

You would almost think this post wasn't relavent  ::)

Deadly the way winkers biatch can raise such a rumpass whilst ignoring this reality.

No doubt collectively in Antrim, a bit of growing up would help but this myopic mud slinging from SIE implys that not every party in these disagreements have to bear responsibility for their actions. As if mud slinging on a internet forum is going to soften positions.

Someone tell me the last time EVERYTHING was rosy in the garden?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 03:22:19 PM
Sie in how many counties in the country does the best 15 actually lineout? It is not exclusive to this county. Sports,  sports stars and egos can be very hard to manage- particularly in less successful counties.

Not looking good today. >:( guess you're happy it validates your opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
20 pt defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Again, you're missing the point. I take umbrage at this attitude of yours that thinks I get any pleasure in this sorry state of affairs. There needs to be something sorted, quickly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 23, 2014, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 23, 2014, 04:09:31 PM
20 pt defeat.

Going to be a long year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Again, you're missing the point. I take umbrage at this attitude of yours that thinks I get any pleasure in this sorry state of affairs. There needs to be something sorted, quickly.

I'm not missing any point. I've heard you. I take umbrage with how you make your points too.

So how do you propose we go forward? Get rid of ryan? If we do this will watson come back and how big a difference will that make?

It seems to me that the only man who can make any kind of a job of us is Dinny Cahill. I don't think we have the answer within.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Again, you're missing the point. I take umbrage at this attitude of yours that thinks I get any pleasure in this sorry state of affairs. There needs to be something sorted, quickly.

I'm not missing any point. I've heard you. I take umbrage with how you make your points too.

So how do you propose we go forward? Get rid of ryan? If we do this will watson come back and how big a difference will that make?

It seems to me that the only man who can make any kind of a job of us is Dinny Cahill. I don't think we have the answer within.
Put PJ in charge and 15 Shamrocks in Saffron jerseys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 23, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
The very first thing Dinny Cahill done when he arrived in Antrim was he asked every club in the county to send 3/4 players who wanted to play for the county to various trials/matches. Surely any new manager should be doing this and not picking players based on what older memebers of team say/county board officials say/or because their relatives etc were good county hurlers. If 3/4 shamrocks turned up to this like everyone else and got picked then fair enough. During the club league season, any player hitting a bit of form comes in and some have to get dropped, just the same as Tipp/KK/Clare. Simples. Well that's how I would do it if I were county manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stibhan on February 23, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
Ryan isn't the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: cfclg on February 23, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
The very first thing Dinny Cahill done when he arrived in Antrim was he asked every club in the county to send 3/4 players who wanted to play for the county to various trials/matches. Surely any new manager should be doing this and not picking players based on what older memebers of team say/county board officials say/or because their relatives etc were good county hurlers. If 3/4 shamrocks turned up to this like everyone else and got picked then fair enough. During the club league season, any player hitting a bit of form comes in and some have to get dropped, just the same as Tipp/KK/Clare. Simples. Well that's how I would do it if I were county manager

After today's hammering the post may be available, send your CV though I think SIE might beat you to it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Again, you're missing the point. I take umbrage at this attitude of yours that thinks I get any pleasure in this sorry state of affairs. There needs to be something sorted, quickly.

I'm not missing any point. I've heard you. I take umbrage with how you make your points too.

So how do you propose we go forward? Get rid of ryan? If we do this will watson come back and how big a difference will that make?

It seems to me that the only man who can make any kind of a job of us is Dinny Cahill. I don't think we have the answer within.
Put PJ in charge and 15 Shamrocks in Saffron jerseys.
well, saying as we've beat Antrim the last couple of times we've played them perhaps not a bad idea.    ;)

However, I don't think pj would touch the Antrim post at the minute. Maybe in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2014, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: cfclg on February 23, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
The very first thing Dinny Cahill done when he arrived in Antrim was he asked every club in the county to send 3/4 players who wanted to play for the county to various trials/matches. Surely any new manager should be doing this and not picking players based on what older memebers of team say/county board officials say/or because their relatives etc were good county hurlers. If 3/4 shamrocks turned up to this like everyone else and got picked then fair enough. During the club league season, any player hitting a bit of form comes in and some have to get dropped, just the same as Tipp/KK/Clare. Simples. Well that's how I would do it if I were county manager

After today's hammering the post may be available, send your CV though I think SIE might beat you to it ;)
I might even take it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 08:00:29 PM
I think cahill's 1st year was possibly the last time we had harmony.
If our next manager is internal PJ is the only choice - I think he'd be impartial towards other clubs if people let him. But generally an outsider is needed unfortunately.

So if this year does go pear shaped?
Do Ryan & McManus get the sack as managers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2014, 08:59:35 PM
I was at the county discussions night at the Dunsilly in September which everyone with an opinion about County Hurling was invited.

I was impressed with the way Kevin Ryan spoke about his plans and in particularly his preparations behind the scenes which he was instigating. A lot were S&C based, and tbh it was very impressive, and a clear step up from previous years. Well organised, passionate and a view for the medium long term which had to be commended.

There weren't too many there to ask any hard questions that night, or air any grievance towards  selection policy etc. So where were you all?? Its too easy to come on here and hurl a lot of cheap shots when the team bus isn't even home yet after todays game.

As a hurling county we have slipped to mediocre division two, and its going to take a big push to get out of there. Its a 3-5 year plan at least (to be sustainable). Its clear Kevin Ryan has adopted a youth policy with an eye on peaking in two or three years, and I applaud that. This man needs to be given his head to see this through. Even at that there is still no guarantees about anything, but  for goodness sake we cant go blaming the management all the time.

We lost heavily today, and yes even I know that wasn't our strongest team on the pitch. More a bunch of kids who are being sent out to learn their trade. Maybe Ryan feels we are not division one material yet (hes 100% correct in that assessment) and a year or two where we are will bring a young dedicated squad through as a strong unit of players totally devoted to the county cause.

I think this needs to be much more applauded than scorned, even if there may be a few corrections needed here and there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2014, 09:11:36 PM
I've also heard KR speak and was very impressed with his medium term plans.

Development squad investment and better coaching resource will help up our standards.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
I understand both those points of view - and not for one minute is Kevin Ryan the sole culprit of our level. After all we had failings before he arrived!

That said - I can't agree with this thing about young kids and currently developing. Senior inter county hurling is for fielding your best team at that time. We're not in the privileged position if the top counties to blood talent so need to get our strongest side out on the pitch NOW.

As for S&C I really think there is too much emphasis on this - every trainer has their own little tweaks but it's generally standard and hardly a new thing. Take that current team - you think they just started gym work recently? They've been doing it all their lives!
The bottom line is that it's what's done on the pitch with a hurl in the hand that matters.

So I for one don't look at Ryan as a scapegoat - but he's certainly no messiah and I fail to see our standards rising in relation to the other teams.

Also - this notion that by going to that meeting you advance hurling whereas the rest of us on a chat forum are negative is a bit lofty! It's just a chat forum - nobody on here claimed to have all the answers and if they did they'd probably be crucified by the murky corridors of power in Antrim county management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 09:37:59 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 23, 2014, 08:59:35 PM
I was at the county discussions night at the Dunsilly in September which everyone with an opinion about County Hurling was invited.

I was impressed with the way Kevin Ryan spoke about his plans and in particularly his preparations behind the scenes which he was instigating. A lot were S&C based, and tbh it was very impressive, and a clear step up from previous years. Well organised, passionate and a view for the medium long term which had to be commended.

There weren't too many there to ask any hard questions that night, or air any grievance towards  selection policy etc. So where were you all?? Its too easy to come on here and hurl a lot of cheap shots when the team bus isn't even home yet after todays game.

As a hurling county we have slipped to mediocre division two, and its going to take a big push to get out of there. Its a 3-5 year plan at least (to be sustainable). Its clear Kevin Ryan has adopted a youth policy with an eye on peaking in two or three years, and I applaud that. This man needs to be given his head to see this through. Even at that there is still no guarantees about anything, but  for goodness sake we cant go blaming the management all the time.

We lost heavily today, and yes even I know that wasn't our strongest team on the pitch. More a bunch of kids who are being sent out to learn their trade. Maybe Ryan feels we are not division one material yet (hes 100% correct in that assessment) and a year or two where we are will bring a young dedicated squad through as a strong unit of players totally devoted to the county cause.

I think this needs to be much more applauded than scorned, even if there may be a few corrections needed here and there.

That's a fair enough assessment bs as usual. Ryan can not be judged based on an issue with one player. I thought he did exceptionally well in carlow and hope he has another few years with antrim yet to prove his worth. Not all rosy thus far but scope for improvement. As usual with antrim we are at that level above division 2 and below division 1 so can be tough.

Anyone who judges him on a result against limerick should look back at our results against limerick over the years. It is very rare we haven't shipped heavy defeats.

Btdtgtt i doubt some of those boys have been doing doing good s&c all their lives. In my view it's always a big downfall in our hurling. Take a physical team like limerick and they will always hurt us.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
I agree with some of that BTD, but two quick points. The first is sustainability.

Excuse me if I use a football example. Mickey Culbert and St Galls circa 2003. He spotted a really good vintage aged 18-21 at the club, and instead of introducing them one by one, he gassed a lot of older players and gave this younger group their chance. As a unit. The result was two all ireland finals and several all ireland sevens. They came through as a group, and stayed the course as a group.

The downside of this was the pain felt by a few who missed the boat in  favour of the young bloods, but the policy paid off.

Secondly, I actually do believe that so many who spend so much time on here, and do actually care about our cause, needed to take a few hours and get to Dunsilly that night. I mean it was totally open ended. It was an open forum and that WAS the place to air some of the grievances consistently banged on here.

One last thing. I actually felt the hurling fraternity were an awful lot further forward than the football one. At least the hurlers have got a plan of sorts. Football just goes from pillar to post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2014, 10:04:40 PM
ANTRIM: D Quinn; P J O'Connell, N McGarry, A Graffin; B McAuley, J Campbell, N Gethins; B McAuley, P Shields; E McCloskey, N McManus, B McFall; S McNaughton, L Watson, C Carson.
Subs used: J Kerr for O'Connell (20 mins), M Herron for Gethins (46).

Here's the Antrim team from championship  2012 with Jim Nelson helping out

Result 8-26 to 1-15 v limerick

Some people on here so full of sh.t it begets belief

Plenty of Lg players and them after winning their all Ireland

Back then limerick where not Munster champions either
prior to the leauge starting Ryan asked us to be patient

SIE you are like a broken record on this subject. So I have decided that every time you come on here and report your own county's woes with a hard to hide air of satisfaction imm going to post up previous results with bigger losing margins than today

These results will include one of the players  you think is worth going to begging to come back even if he did disclose he didn't want to play for

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 23, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 10:44:47 PM
Absolutely it's the norm - and that's the problem.

I agree the limerick result should be taken with a pinch of salt however - my barometer is more the fact that Westmeath Laois and in particular Carlow are now real tests for us.
The days of picking off results against Wexford and Offaly seem gone. The current team don't look like changing the slump.

Let's hope I'm wrong and we turn the faithful county over in that game - we should beat Laois (?!) and cork game intimidating.
And on that note good luck to the players and management - if the effort goes in and they do their best that's all can be asked. Some of our woes lie outside their realm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 10:44:47 PM
Absolutely it's the norm - and that's the problem.

I agree the limerick result should be taken with a pinch of salt however - my barometer is more the fact that Westmeath Laois and in particular Carlow are now real tests for us.
The days of picking off results against Wexford and Offaly seem gone. The current team don't look like changing the slump.

Let's hope I'm wrong and we turn the faithful county over in our next game.
And on that note good luck to the players and management - if the effort goes in and they do their best that's all can be asked. Some of our woes lie outside their realm.
Ignoring the fact that Laois etc are much improved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
The fluked the win statement is bs hs. We were knocking on the door for a good few years and had a great crop of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2014, 11:08:08 PM
Listen to the atmosphere and level of vocal support provided during the KK Tipp game and compare that to Antrim supporters. A deaf and dumb group would make more noise. We don't fully embrace our county team and thats symptomatic of an overall apathy thats always been there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2014, 10:59:43 PM
We haven't competed properly since hurling began ffs. And don't fcukin 1989 me, we fluked a win and then got tanked.

It isn't going to change at senior level until we are competing/winning consistently at underage, which we aren't. This talk about Loch gCaol, Neil McManus, Kevin Ryan etc etc may all be true but its irrelevant.

That's strong words but hard to argue with, especially the underage bit

I see we are a getting a windfall from croke park. If enough people give a shit we could use it to travel south with all those young teams right up to minor. But god knows what Antrim board has planned for it. Need to try something different that's for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2014, 11:10:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
The fluked the win statement is bs hs. We were knocking on the door for a good few years and had a great crop of players.
One win. One. Great crop alright. Followed up by one of the biggest tankings in an AI Final. That isn't competing. Don't kid ourselves.

Did you follow that team in the eighties and early nineties at all? Do you not think they were a great crop?

We are far away from that level now but for antrim there were great players in that area. That one win wasn't a fluke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
In relation to the top teams I don't think Laois have improved tony. We used to sit between the like of them and the top tier - now we sit along side them.

HS your critique of 89 is spot on - but don't forget that crop did compete for a few years either side. Although I agree perhaps only the provincial structure at the time allowed this.

Skull is correct however - as a group of Gaels / supporters we don't get behind our county. Why? Lack of success, parochial preferences, and perhaps most importantly our seasons are generally all too predictable. We can't almost call every result before a ball is pucked.

Don't start HS on the sight of hill16 in 89 tho!

As for our windfall - kiss it goodbye into the black hole of dunsilly like the money from opening Croker! Our county officers will look nice in the photos though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2014, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2014, 11:10:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
The fluked the win statement is bs hs. We were knocking on the door for a good few years and had a great crop of players.
One win. One. Great crop alright. Followed up by one of the biggest tankings in an AI Final. That isn't competing. Don't kid ourselves.

Did you follow that team in the eighties and early nineties at all? Do you not think they were a great crop?

We are far away from that level now but for antrim there were great players in that area. That one win wasn't a fluke.
Great? Teams that lose one match in years can be considered great, not teams that win one match in years. We went close to Kilkenny in 91 but couldn't get out of Ulster in 92, got drilled by Kilkenny in 93. It was an anomaly. The final showed that.

Time does wonderful things to memories HS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 11:29:40 PM
This windfall, correct me if I'm wrong, is 800k between 4 counties over 5 years - so 40 grand a year. Will pay for a few banquets and "fact-finding" missions no doubt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:34:25 PM
You may note the "for antrim" part i put before that comment.

You haven't commented on the 80s? Ok early 90s was 91 really.

Mayo got to multiple finals against kerry in recent years where they got "drilled".Were they all anomalies because they got hammered?

We were knocking on the door and we made it through with the team at their peak.  I don't believe in the anomaly thing at all.

We are not a "top table" hurling county and have always been high division 2 / low division 1 status. Those boys in the 80s had us as more than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 11:40:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 11:29:40 PM
This windfall, correct me if I'm wrong, is 800k between 4 counties over 5 years - so 40 grand a year. Will pay for a few banquets and "fact-finding" missions no doubt.

Quick question:
When this money is spent - does anyone believe Antrim hurling will be better off in relation to other counties?

For me - no.
History tells me it will be squandered or used in the wrong manner by the usual cronies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2014, 11:40:13 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2014, 11:29:40 PM
This windfall, correct me if I'm wrong, is 800k between 4 counties over 5 years - so 40 grand a year. Will pay for a few banquets and "fact-finding" missions no doubt.

Quick question:
When this money is spent - does anyone believe Antrim hurling will be better off in relation to other counties?

For me - no.
History tells me it will be squandered or used in the wrong manner by the usual cronies.
They should send a couple of development officers down south and bring something back to the juvenile ranks. There is no point crying about the senior team as it will take years to sort that out. Prepare for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2014, 11:54:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 23, 2014, 11:36:47 PM
Mayo getting to 'multiple' finals can't be an anomaly, by definition.

Next you'll be telling me last year's u21 team was a great team.

No comment on the 80s prior to 89 no? Or does that not suit your point?

There are some good u21s there. The Clare team that hammered them we a great team. Any team from antrim that makes an ai final isn't a bad one in my book. The u21 match was more of a shock though. No history from that team of being a threat like say the antrim team in the 80s  ::)

I clarified that i said the 89 team was a great team "for antrim". I don't see any problem with that comment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 24, 2014, 12:34:55 AM
Ok HS we get it even our best teams ever are sh..te in your book
They dished out all those all stars out of sympathy

It was our most productive era and I for one felt good about county hurling. So even if they didn't live up to your dizzy standards I cherish those memories

Hurling has move on a lot so imm think it's unfair to judge our current teams to them either
The whole thing has gig very professional and we hit the lottery with talent it wouldn't matter if they didn't put on the work.  We are all very good at whinging on here about things like the pounding our boys took today but they the ones that are probably still getting home and the manager is trying his best. Time to start talking about what could be done for the better instead of who should be playing and how we lick there ba.lls to come back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2014, 01:42:42 AM
88/89/90/91 we were a top team. Feared no one and feared by most. Definitely a top 4 or 5 team consistently during this period. I dont think we should ever take away from that. Clute Ciaran Barr Dessie Donnelly Humpy etc etc were all top top players, and well managed by Jim Nelson/John Crossey.

Its all changed since then.  The speed, the strength the professionalism, the sportys science - of course it comes down to money. Creagh cant do it all.The money being pumped in, in Dublin needs to be put into our second city (you know what I mean).

We have the classic chicken and egg situation going on. Businessmen would get behind hurling ( and football) if there was trust in board to be open and transparent about its use, and a professional plan put in front of them. Of that I have no doubt. But it needs driven, and by a group of young professionals who want better than what they have. See the county website re hurling golf classic and particularly the statement from the players about their passion to make things change.

Its hard not to be impressed -  and its been a long time since I saw such passion coming from the players to implement change from within. Read it, and maybe you might just see the future. Knock it, and maybe you are a person who gets off on knocking everything. Go on lads. Make it happen lads - you have plenty of support.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
As said already, we couldn't even beat Limerick in Loughgiel and they were 1b we got such a tanking that day, we were never going to win in Limerick yesterday but put in a performance at least. Even if we'd 15 Loughgiel players on we'd struggle against Carlow's senior hurling team at the minute ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 24, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
There's no point looking out wards at what other counties are doing. Look first at what you're doing inside the county to improve standards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 24, 2014, 10:29:39 AM
fuckin hell lads, here's a question I asked on another thread on the work done to improve the GAA in Belfast;

HS,
I happened upon 'Ardú Bhéal Feirste' on the Ulster council web site and was wondering how they were getting on with these goals;

Key targets of the Strategy include:

Coaching, Games and Participation

    At least 10 GAA Community Coaches for the Belfast Urban Area
    An increase in games participation of at least 20% by 2014
    A specific Belfast Continuing Professional Development programme for volunteer club coaches
    Cross Club summer and Easter coaching camps
    City Based Development Squads
    Enhanced Club-School links through new coaching initiatives and programmes
    Programmes to attract new participations who traditionally would have no involvement in the GAA.

Physical Development

    Belfast GAA Urban Centre of Participation and Excellence that includes at least three new full-size pitches for club use in North and West Belfast
    At least two new full-size GAA pitches for use in the South and East Belfast
    Enhancement of Casement Park to an appropriate standard for the main GAA stadium in Ireland's second city.

Club Governance

    New group comprising of Belfast GAA club officials, Antrim, Down and Ulster GAA officials to drive the development of the GAA in Belfast
    At least two Development Officers to support Club officials in administration governance and ongoing club development
    A new Brand and Identity for the GAA in Belfast
    A "joined-up" club led approach to the overall development of the GAA in the City
    A strong GAA presence and linkage with all local government and relevant public bodies in the city.
    Specific Belfast GAA Club Development Seminars and Volunteer training events.

Culture and Heritage

    Revival of Scór in the City
    Introduction of new Specific Belfast GAA Irish language Courses
    Development of a Belfast GAA History.


Now tell me how successful that initiative has been and tell me whats different now that its 2014 and the same people are in positions of power.
Then tell me how any 'windfall' from Croke Park is going to improve anything?

Setting up the right structures from youth/schools to U-16 and minor with the existing resources is the first building block. In Dublin all youngsters are guaranteed a game or go-games blitz every Saturday, football one week, hurling the next, you don't need Paudie Butler or Ned Quinn to do that, its basic administration, get those structures right first with youngsters, they're hooked, then in the latter years improve upon the coaching, but first get the playing base widened before even thinking of development squads and trips south to compete with the higher echelons of hurling.

The indoor hurling leagues run in North Antrim are as good a model as is going, but something similar needs to be in place for the outdoor summer months.

There's no quick fixes out there and throwing money at a bad process isn't going to improve it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 11:20:02 AM
JC speaks very passionate about this.  And I have to say am impressed and agree. BUT!!!! 40 grand a year isn't doing nothing, Dublin county pumped millions into there under age and it took the guts of 10 years to benefit them.  AIG as main sponser shows big coin getting pulled in.  Certain club memberships up on €200.  It's the clubs that can change the outlook.  But everyone needs to be thinking and moving the same way, an open meeting, any and all clubs and club members welcome. Put it all out there  and try and move forwards as a county.  Club rivalry is what you let it be. It's needed to keep the fire and passion in the games.  But it has to be left on the field and that's just one of many problems we have to sort out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
Apathy (the "I'm sure someone else will look after the week in week out stuff" brigade) in the adult population is what kills this county. If we had more interested adults we would be able to improve our structures. The kids are not the problem. Its the adults who aren't creating the right environment for them to perform better. Lots of kids smell the bullshit and take the foot off the pedal when they see it doesn't really matter to enough people. This even happens in the heartlands

Plenty of good work being done but there needs to be a critical mass of interested coaches, interested parents, interested supporters for structures as we would all like to see them improve across the board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 24, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
Apathy (the "I'm sure someone else will look after the week in week out stuff" brigade) in the adult population is what kills this county. If we had more interested adults we would be able to improve our structures. The kids are not the problem. Its the adults who aren't creating the right environment for them to perform better. Lots of kids smell the bullshit and take the foot off the pedal when they see it doesn't really matter to enough people. This even happens in the heartlands

Plenty of good work being done but there needs to be a critical mass of interested coaches, interested parents, interested supporters for structures as we would all like to see them improve across the board.

What comes first, the chicken or the egg?

IMO if you were to sit down within each club and put forward a very structured approach as to how the club would be approaching youth development, assisted by a defined set of fixtures, competitions within the county then I think you'll get greater buy in from parents and potential coaches.

Parents with no real background in GAA/hurling are sometimes as keen as mustard as they themselves feel they missed out but don't want to get involved in a team for their lack of knowledge. Get a set of parents, four or five, not all will need to be there all the time nor previous players or trained coaches, but one or two would be ideal, share the workload out and that makes it more enticing to get involved as more often than not if one person puts their hand up to take on a job, very soon they'll become chief cook and bottle washer and then disillusioned very quickly then another good person is lost to the club.

You'll still have the parents who drop the kids off and take off into the sunset no matter what you do, but I've always held the belief that its a 'build it and they will come' that proper organisation and distribution of workload over as many people as possible makes it less of a burden on the dedicated few especially at underage level.

County boards have to get their act together, create a structure where children are guaranteed regular games to supplement the training and what not.

The best set up I saw in quite a while was the Down Camogie underage blitzes co-ordinated by Mairin McAleenan where she had a host club and were informed how many teams were to attend, how many pitches were needed and she then provided the running order for the games.
This happened every other sunday morning and the one I saw run on our pitch must have had the better part of 20 teams there, played their games pretty efficiently, not too much standing about and two hours later it was over, everyone away home.

The hurling side of Down have tried to copy it and its not too bad, but not as slick as what the camogs had it and not as frequent, but there's probably less hurling clubs in Down than there are camogie clubs.

When it works, it works well, it just needs maintained and evolved as the youngsters get older.

I'm sure things aren't too different in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
HS were you on the rip yesterday and feeling under the weather or why the attack on the 89 team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2014, 02:33:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 24, 2014, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
HS were you on the rip yesterday and feeling under the weather or why the attack on the 89 team?
Nope. Not saying they weren't the best team we ever had but with the greatest respect the championship was structured in their favour. One win got them to an All Ireland final. You could put our win over Dublin a couple of years ago in the same category IMO.

I don't think we've ever been a serious challenger at the top table of hurling in Ireland.

No we weren't and 2 finals in our history proves that (both heavy defeats) but in fairness to that crop of players late 80's early 90's they were very competitive both in the league and championship and it was the latter which was more important in terms of prep for the All Ireland semi finals, we just can't seem to get a run at the leagues consistently (over a 3/4 year period) to be contesting when it matters.

As been said already, back to basics and get the structures right from under 8 up only then can we have a steady stream of quality/committed hurlers.

Converting club competitiveness with other counties into county competitiveness is not going to happen, Galway are very adept at winning Club All Irelands, they just can't win them at senior county level, the range of teams that have won the Galway championship has been good for them as it's a nice spread so they are competing at least, Antrim isn't the same, we normally have a team that dominates for long periods, that's not healthy or will it help the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 24, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 24, 2014, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
HS were you on the rip yesterday and feeling under the weather or why the attack on the 89 team?
Nope. Not saying they weren't the best team we ever had but with the greatest respect the championship was structured in their favour. One win got them to an All Ireland final. You could put our win over Dublin a couple of years ago in the same category IMO.

I don't think we've ever been a serious challenger at the top table of hurling in Ireland.

HS,
  yeah one win got you to an AI final back then, it was also the big incentive Down and latterly Derry had to improve and get a crack at a big gun in Croke park.
Antrim had a few close outings against both Cork in 86 and Kilkenny in 87 possibly before they got the better of Offaly in 89, so they were there or there abouts, I wouldn't go diminishing their achievements because the draw was in their favour, you still have to beat the best team from either Leinster or Munster to get there.

Do the Ulster club champions have a favourable draw into the AI series as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
HS we beat an Offaly team that had a fair few top hurlers who went on to win handfuls of all stars and compete and win all Ireland.    Few years back we beat a Dublin team that had really only started to make moves.  Would we hold that Dublin outfit at the moment to 20 points??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 05:48:39 PM
I'm 100% in agreement with HS (i.e this was our best panel of players but lets not over egg how good we were relative to the top teams when the were on a good day) . I can see JC's point about the one crack at getting to an AI final being an incentive today's Antrim IC players don't have. I'm sure it has a bearing.

But all this talk about the days of yore does nothing to improve what needs to be improved currently (if it can be improved). Suppose that's for someone else to worry about.

Think low down the age groups, we're not to bad in Antrim at getting games (if the coaches want to take them that is). Seems to be a fall off in participation at the 16-21 year old age bracket. That's where proper focus needs to be given IMO (14-21 really)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
I don't know if we'll ever get anywhere until we sort out the genetics that make those southern boys so much bigger and tougher!
No matter how skilfull we are we just end up getting bullied.

And at the risk of getting the wrath of MR2 et al I still think refereeing style has a role to play here. I understand the argument of our guys not having the same "tough but fair" mentality and this results in over bearing refs - but until northern games are reffed in the southern style we'll still be playing a different game than the big boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 24, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
The 1989 team was a brilliant team. But far too many have dined out on it since and talked about the good old days. It was a brilliant team but was a one off. Antrim have had nothing but some rousing displays since, that's all.

You can't compare what Dublin has done to what Antrim might be able to do.


Population is huge in Dublin. Not so in Antrim.

Playing football and hurling in Dublin is cool. Not so cool in Belfast.

We need to make it cool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
GAA President-elect Aogán Ó Fearghaíl has said regenerating the GAA in Belfast will be one of his key aims during his three-year stint.
The Cavan man, who was voted the 38th President of the GAA on Friday night, says the Belfast issue will be one of his "big challenges".
"I can't understand why hurling in Belfast is not much stronger," Ó Fearghaíl told BBC Sport NI on Monday.
"That's an area I would certainly like to look at."
The GAA president added that "Ireland's second city has a huge population and a massive number of clubs and people".
Ó Fearghaíl believes Belfast should follow the model which, he says, has helped Dublin to re-emerge as a hurling force over the last five years.
"Coaching is hugely important and having a strong link between our schools, colleges and clubs.
"People talk about the investment that has gone into Dublin but the real key in Dublin has been the link between the schools and the clubs.
"Clubs all adopt a school and guys from the clubs go into the schools every single week. Not just for a six-week block.
"They go in every single week and they play hurling with the children.
"We had to look at models like that and Belfast in particular can be a growth area for us."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on February 24, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
The 1989 team was really the 1986 - 1991 team.

During that time the team went toe to toe with Cork, Tipp twice, Kilkenny twice and offaly, and really should have got into at least 1 other All Ireland. So they were a great team. Our problem is that it takes 50 years to deliver the next good team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 24, 2014, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
GAA President-elect Aogán Ó Fearghaíl has said regenerating the GAA in Belfast will be one of his key aims during his three-year stint.
The Cavan man, who was voted the 38th President of the GAA on Friday night, says the Belfast issue will be one of his "big challenges".
"I can't understand why hurling in Belfast is not much stronger," Ó Fearghaíl told BBC Sport NI on Monday.
"That's an area I would certainly like to look at."
The GAA president added that "Ireland's second city has a huge population and a massive number of clubs and people".
Ó Fearghaíl believes Belfast should follow the model which, he says, has helped Dublin to re-emerge as a hurling force over the last five years.
"Coaching is hugely important and having a strong link between our schools, colleges and clubs.
"People talk about the investment that has gone into Dublin but the real key in Dublin has been the link between the schools and the clubs.
"Clubs all adopt a school and guys from the clubs go into the schools every single week. Not just for a six-week block.
"They go in every single week and they play hurling with the children.
"We had to look at models like that and Belfast in particular can be a growth area for us."
lets hope so,  makes good reading anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2014, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
I don't know if we'll ever get anywhere until we sort out the genetics that make those southern boys so much bigger and tougher!
No matter how skilfull we are we just end up getting bullied.

And at the risk of getting the wrath of MR2 et al I still think refereeing style has a role to play here. I understand the argument of our guys not having the same "tough but fair" mentality and this results in over bearing refs - but until northern games are reffed in the southern style we'll still be playing a different game than the big boys.

I'm not saying you are wrong with regards to refereeing in Ulster, but!!! I've been involved with managing a team with Southern referees I've watched all of the club semi finals and club finals, there isn't much difference between them and our top referees other than the players react differently, you go to any big hurling county and there are examples of shit refereeing, Portumna V Loughrea Loughrea V St Thomas's to name two big club games

I'm sure other posters could relate to other games were the refereeing was abysmal. Players need to stop reacting to hard legal hits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on February 24, 2014, 09:20:41 PM
How many hurling clubs are there in Belfast and where are they ? Is there a map of the locations? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 24, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
I don't know if we'll ever get anywhere until we sort out the genetics that make those southern boys so much bigger and tougher!
No matter how skilfull we are we just end up getting bullied.

And at the risk of getting the wrath of MR2 et al I still think refereeing style has a role to play here. I understand the argument of our guys not having the same "tough but fair" mentality and this results in over bearing refs - but until northern games are reffed in the southern style we'll still be playing a different game than the big boys.

The Clare team aren't exactly all big lads, Paudge Collins, Tony Kelly etc. It's not genetics that is holding us back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 24, 2014, 09:20:41 PM
How many hurling clubs are there in Belfast and where are they ? Is there a map of the locations?

There only one (maybe) single code club in Belfast

http://www.antrimgaa.net/clubs/?2   Try this link
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 24, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
I don't know if we'll ever get anywhere until we sort out the genetics that make those southern boys so much bigger and tougher!
No matter how skilfull we are we just end up getting bullied.

And at the risk of getting the wrath of MR2 et al I still think refereeing style has a role to play here. I understand the argument of our guys not having the same "tough but fair" mentality and this results in over bearing refs - but until northern games are reffed in the southern style we'll still be playing a different game than the big boys.

The Clare team aren't exactly all big lads, Paudge Collins, Tony Kelly etc. It's not genetics that is holding us back.

I didn't say that physical size/strength was the only factor.
But regardless of S&C these guys (including the like of tony Kelly) play a much more physical game. Notably this is with their bodies not by pulling the stick!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
Rossa and StJohns would have won the majority of Feiles over the last 15 years wouldn't they? St Galls upping their game at Juvenile. What are the rest doing? From the dark north....doesn't seem like much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 09:59:24 PM
I know this is going to be highly contentious and I would be ridiculed across my beautiful city but - yes the johnnies Rossa and naomh gall are streets ahead if we consider both codes across all underage levels.

So what happened quite often is that you have a couple of really good kids hurling at all the other clubs. They become demoralised as they get stuffed by these big three every other week.
Can they transfer? No.
So what do they do? Either they don't progress, or they give up!
This happens year in year out for years on end.
Result? An enormous amount of talent is wasted - and continues to be!

Solution?
Well the root problem is as previously stated - too many clubs.
But this is not going to be dealt with.
So?
Maybe the "weaker" clubs facilitate sanctions?
Problem?
Nobody, understandably, wants to risk losing their future to a rival club.

It's a never ending problem! And has been for years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 10:07:32 PM
3 hurling clubs in the whole of west Belfast is your solution?  :-\ Better quality sustained coaching in the other clubs at U8/10? Would that be better?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 10:46:53 PM
At no time did I ever say that 3 hurling clubs in west Belfast was the solution?!

Also I'm sure the guys knocking their pan in at the other clubs would be delighted to hear your critique of them!

Reading between the lines you don't have a grasp of the underage scene in west Belfast skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 10:46:53 PM
At no time did I ever say that 3 hurling clubs in west Belfast was the solution?!

Also I'm sure the guys knocking their pan in at the other clubs would be delighted to hear your critique of them!

Reading between the lines you don't have a grasp of the underage scene in west Belfast skull.

You didnt explicitly say it no ... but if thats not what youre suggesting at underage, what are you suggesting? Spell it out for us

And in terms of my knowledge of underage in west belfast..... Ive already admitted I'm no expert and have asked the question about what the rest are doing. But I know enough to know there doesnt appear to much in terms of quality from the other clubs low down at juvenile as much as Sarsfields and Brid Og are bulling away. But as I said...I'm willing to be enlightened.....so please feel free to set me straight

And your jibe about me giving an opinion on the lack of quality coming from other clubs is a cheap shot. The guys knocking their pans in are not the problem. Its people like you, full of opinions but who dont get involved who leave the workers on the ground short on resources who are the problem. The boys knocking their pans in deserve all the support they can get and have my full respect.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:14:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 24, 2014, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2014, 10:46:53 PM
At no time did I ever say that 3 hurling clubs in west Belfast was the solution?!

Also I'm sure the guys knocking their pan in at the other clubs would be delighted to hear your critique of them!

Reading between the lines you don't have a grasp of the underage scene in west Belfast skull.

You didnt explicitly say it no ... but if thats not what youre suggesting at underage, what are you suggesting? Spell it out for us

that was my very point - that there is no easy solution! The main issues inhibiting us are social - and once they are overcome having too many clubs is a secondary problem. But still a problem as I outlined in my previous post. But I don't claim to be an oracle to solve this! Better men than me have failed here!


And in terms of my knowledge of underage in west belfast..... Ive already admitted I'm no expert and have asked the question about what the rest are doing. But I know enough to know there doesnt appear to much in terms of quality from the other clubs low down at juvenile as much as Sarsfields and Brid Og are bulling away. But as I said...I'm willing to be enlightened.....so please feel free to set me straight

I don't have full knowledge of all clubs but I know of several others doing everything the can. St. Paul's kids won an indoor tournament just this weekend and sarsfields are forever doing bag packs for their juveniles hurling and the aggies are now fielding at all age groups in their own right and gortnamona are have an army of volunteers getting kids from turf lodge into their club and I note both Lamh dearg & st brides have facilitated sanctions to help young lads get hurling where they had no team. So there is no shortage of hard work and that's only the clubs I know off hand. Also that's just in the west - Mickey Jnr is still grafting every night god sends with ardoyne and st endas is absolutely booming with underage development. 

And your jibe about me giving an opinion on the lack of quality coming from other clubs is a cheap shot. The guys knocking their pans in are not the problem. Its people like you, full of opinions but who dont get involved who leave the workers on the ground short on resources who are the problem. The boys knocking their pans in deserve all the support they can get and have my full respect.

it wasn't a cheap shot at all - it's just true that you aren't aware of the full scene. It's not slander - I'm well aware that this is merely a chat forum and all you are doing was chatting. Just like me - minus your "cheap shot" that I'm part of the problem by not being involved. But then like I say you are not aware of the situation in underage hurling in the city. I can assure you I am.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
I've said it for a while though that there are too many clubs in the city. How many Dublin city clubs are there? While Belfast has a large population, only half would be interested, a lot of that half play other sports (soccer) so it's about sweeping up the rest, doesn't leave you with that many in fairness.

If we are to go back to school days, in my primary school we'd Christian Brothers looking after all the Gaelic games, we also (where my school was situated) the local Gaa club taking us to the school games on their bus, I suppose this was a way of getting kids enrolled in their club. But there was never a shortage of male teachers who were interested in hurling/football. That's all gone now.

I'd say if Belfast had 4/5 clubs that hurled only we could improve a lot better, the dual players could also play football for the other clubs that play football only.

The big Dublin clubs have 2 junior teams 2 intermediate teams and senior and senior reserve teams all hurling, and that would be Crokes who'd be better known as a footballing club ffs!! When you look at that it's surprising (at club level) we do so well!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
I've said it for a while though that there are too many clubs in the city. How many Dublin city clubs are there? While Belfast has a large population, only half would be interested, a lot of that half play other sports (soccer) so it's about sweeping up the rest, doesn't leave you with that many in fairness.

If we are to go back to school days, in my primary school we'd Christian Brothers looking after all the Gaelic games, we also (where my school was situated) the local Gaa club taking us to the school games on their bus, I suppose this was a way of getting kids enrolled in their club. But there was never a shortage of male teachers who were interested in hurling/football. That's all gone now.

I'd say if Belfast had 4/5 clubs that hurled only we could improve a lot better, the dual players could also play football for the other clubs that play football only.

The big Dublin clubs have 2 junior teams 2 intermediate teams and senior and senior reserve teams all hurling, and that would be Crokes who'd be better known as a footballing club ffs!! When you look at that it's surprising (at club level) we do so well!!

Just on a side note or parallel, are the GAA still paying for 'development' officers in Queens, UUJ and St Marys? Since the colleges are not in season for probably 6 months or more of the year, surely these three officers could be utilized in a more effective way in the city to get the most out of their roles.

With smaller resources we should be working smarter. Yes it is only three (maybe) officers, but if they start to develop the systems and structures they could have a big impact.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
I've said it for a while though that there are too many clubs in the city. How many Dublin city clubs are there? While Belfast has a large population, only half would be interested, a lot of that half play other sports (soccer) so it's about sweeping up the rest, doesn't leave you with that many in fairness.

If we are to go back to school days, in my primary school we'd Christian Brothers looking after all the Gaelic games, we also (where my school was situated) the local Gaa club taking us to the school games on their bus, I suppose this was a way of getting kids enrolled in their club. But there was never a shortage of male teachers who were interested in hurling/football. That's all gone now.

I'd say if Belfast had 4/5 clubs that hurled only we could improve a lot better, the dual players could also play football for the other clubs that play football only.

The big Dublin clubs have 2 junior teams 2 intermediate teams and senior and senior reserve teams all hurling, and that would be Crokes who'd be better known as a footballing club ffs!! When you look at that it's surprising (at club level) we do so well!!

Just on a side note or parallel, are the GAA still paying for 'development' officers in Queens, UUJ and St Marys? Since the colleges are not in season for probably 6 months or more of the year, surely these three officers could be utilized in a more effective way in the city to get the most out of their roles.

With smaller resources we should be working smarter. Yes it is only three (maybe) officers, but if they start to develop the systems and structures they could have a big impact.

Possibly I don't know for sure, but these initiatives have been done before, we'd members of our club going into schools but it never last long, I know at one of our AGM's it was proposed that we employed someone to do this for a year or two as a development officer assigned to local schools, this would have been 2 fold, bringing Gaelic games to the schools and possible recruitment to the club. We didn't do it because we couldn't fund it as the club has no money.

If the money was available then I think all clubs should adopt this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 25, 2014, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 25, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
I've said it for a while though that there are too many clubs in the city. How many Dublin city clubs are there? While Belfast has a large population, only half would be interested, a lot of that half play other sports (soccer) so it's about sweeping up the rest, doesn't leave you with that many in fairness.

If we are to go back to school days, in my primary school we'd Christian Brothers looking after all the Gaelic games, we also (where my school was situated) the local Gaa club taking us to the school games on their bus, I suppose this was a way of getting kids enrolled in their club. But there was never a shortage of male teachers who were interested in hurling/football. That's all gone now.

I'd say if Belfast had 4/5 clubs that hurled only we could improve a lot better, the dual players could also play football for the other clubs that play football only.

The big Dublin clubs have 2 junior teams 2 intermediate teams and senior and senior reserve teams all hurling, and that would be Crokes who'd be better known as a footballing club ffs!! When you look at that it's surprising (at club level) we do so well!!

Just on a side note or parallel, are the GAA still paying for 'development' officers in Queens, UUJ and St Marys? Since the colleges are not in season for probably 6 months or more of the year, surely these three officers could be utilized in a more effective way in the city to get the most out of their roles.

With smaller resources we should be working smarter. Yes it is only three (maybe) officers, but if they start to develop the systems and structures they could have a big impact.

Possibly I don't know for sure, but these initiatives have been done before, we'd members of our club going into schools but it never last long, I know at one of our AGM's it was proposed that we employed someone to do this for a year or two as a development officer assigned to local schools, this would have been 2 fold, bringing Gaelic games to the schools and possible recruitment to the club. We didn't do it because we couldn't fund it as the club has no money.

If the money was available then I think all clubs should adopt this

MR2 - This is what gets to me, with all the public funding money swirling around these areas of 'High Social Need' there is bound to be ways of getting that type of post at least part funded and then the GAA could be convinced to match the funding. There are charities being set up left right and centre with paid employees to create better opportunities for kids all over Belfast, so again I think it is a case of working smarter.

That's the role I would see for those 3 'Development' officers to source for the clubs sustained ways of getting help on the ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
Look the county board have ran 'think tanks' in the past, I was invited to one or two of them but for whatever reason at the time I was unavailable but these are useful when the stuff is tried afterwards. Looking in from the outside we probably think nothing is being tried or done, all the negatives we hear about like Casement and Dunsilly (though positives in the long run) seem to tarnish the county, plus all the bad press the County team gets from past/current players doesn't help either.

As Skull has said we have a serious lack of dedicated volunteers within our clubs to implement this, I know we have made a serious push at the minute, St Johns always have as has Rossa, btdtgtt has mentioned other clubs to but I don't think these clubs will be pushing for senior status any year soon so what happens is the standard stays the same unfortunately, the amount of work St Enda's have done over the years has been great, but the senior team has not really made any inroads at becoming a serious senior club, Last Man will agree with me (I hope as he's a big lad ;)) Transferring great juveniles into senior teams is 10 times harder. This is also the case for the bigger Belfast clubs to by the way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2014, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
Look the county board have ran 'think tanks' in the past, I was invited to one or two of them but for whatever reason at the time I was unavailable but these are useful when the stuff is tried afterwards. Looking in from the outside we probably think nothing is being tried or done, all the negatives we hear about like Casement and Dunsilly (though positives in the long run) seem to tarnish the county, plus all the bad press the County team gets from past/current players doesn't help either.

As Skull has said we have a serious lack of dedicated volunteers within our clubs to implement this, I know we have made a serious push at the minute, St Johns always have as has Rossa, btdtgtt has mentioned other clubs to but I don't think these clubs will be pushing for senior status any year soon so what happens is the standard stays the same unfortunately, the amount of work St Enda's have done over the years has been great, but the senior team has not really made any inroads at becoming a serious senior club, Last Man will agree with me (I hope as he's a big lad ;)) Transferring great juveniles into senior teams is 10 times harder. This is also the case for the bigger Belfast clubs to by the way

Transferring juveniles into senior teams
This to me is the biggest problem in the city, of course more can be done In terms of getting weaker clubs to amalgamate and raising to standard but Belfast has always churned out plenty of good underage hurlers. But from u14 to minor they just seem to drift away. It's criminal the amount of smashing young players just don't develop into seniors. It's all about more committment required for senior hurling. I don't think players see any prestige with dedicating there time to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 25, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
It's only the last couple of years though MR that St Enda's have started coming on. I'd expect it'd be another 3 or 4 years before(or if) that benefit is really seen at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
Transferring juveniles into senior teams
This to me is the biggest problem in the city, of course more can be done In terms of getting weaker clubs to amalgamate and raising to standard but Belfast has always churned out plenty of good underage hurlers. But from u14 to minor they just seem to drift away. It's criminal the amount of smashing young players just don't develop into seniors. It's all about more committment required for senior hurling. I don't think players see any prestige with dedicating there time to it

Well said - Couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
It's only the last couple of years though MR that St Enda's have started coming on. I'd expect it'd be another 3 or 4 years before(or if) that benefit is really seen at senior level.

But unless their senior team knuckle down a push towards div 2 at least then those good kids will only play at the standard they need to, I've seen it so many times, I played against lads right through juvenile and when it came to senior these lads stepped up to div 1 clubs I played div 2 they improved we stayed the same, we only improved when we played against better teams for longer periods
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
Transferring juveniles into senior teams
This to me is the biggest problem in the city, of course more can be done In terms of getting weaker clubs to amalgamate and raising to standard but Belfast has always churned out plenty of good underage hurlers. But from u14 to minor they just seem to drift away. It's criminal the amount of smashing young players just don't develop into seniors. It's all about more committment required for senior hurling. I don't think players see any prestige with dedicating there time to it

Well said - Couldn't agree more!

I hope youre only agreeing with the transferring juveniles into senior teams bit and not the amalgamate bit. Amalgamations in the city haven't worked to date (last years U16s being one to forget). They serve a purpose in North Antrim  but seem hard to sustain year on year as I see St Brendans aren't fielding this year (is that lack of commitment from parents/coaches or lack of players..I dunno).

St Endas are playing B grade all the way through juvenile this year I believe, but they've had a decent 10 years or so at juvenile


All boils down to lack of volunteers ...  simples

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 11:14:10 AM
Transferring juveniles into senior teams
This to me is the biggest problem in the city, of course more can be done In terms of getting weaker clubs to amalgamate and raising to standard but Belfast has always churned out plenty of good underage hurlers. But from u14 to minor they just seem to drift away. It's criminal the amount of smashing young players just don't develop into seniors. It's all about more committment required for senior hurling. I don't think players see any prestige with dedicating there time to it

Well said - Couldn't agree more!

I hope youre only agreeing with the transferring juveniles into senior teams bit and not the amalgamate bit. Amalgamations in the city haven't worked to date (last years U16s being one to forget). They serve a purpose in North Antrim  but seem hard to sustain year on year as I see St Brendans aren't fielding this year (is that lack of commitment from parents/coaches or lack of players..I dunno).

St Endas are playing B grade all the way through juvenile this year I believe, but they've had a decent 10 years or so at juvenile


All boils down to lack of volunteers ...  simples

My point is transfering good juveniles from the one club into good seniors in the same club, not transfering them away to 'bigger' clubs, not sure if btdtgtt is referring to that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
I'm referring to transferring from juvenile to senior - not club to club.

Also I'm not a fan of amalgamations full stop.
I have no objection to sanctions as the players come under one banner but I think amalgamtions don't represent as much and therefore the potential exists for lack of discipline on one side as recently shown - or different clubs carrying a flag of convenience just to win something.

As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
I'm referring to transferring from juvenile to senior - not club to club.

Also I'm not a fan of amalgamations full stop.
I have no objection to sanctions as the players come under one banner but I think amalgamtions don't represent as much and therefore the potential exists for lack of discipline on one side as recently shown - or different clubs carrying a flag of convenience just to win something.

As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'm not for amalgamtions either, I'm for forming hurling only clubs and football only clubs, that way players can still play both but for separate clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Amalgamations at juvenile have rarely been anything other than temporary and cosmetic. To fully succeed with an amalgamation you are talking about permanently creating a new club, not a new under-16 team, from the remnants of other clubs. Are any clubs prepared to walk away from 100 years of club history to start fresh? A bridge too far for most I would say regardless of how much they are struggling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'd contend that it is 90% of the problem

Once the bodies are on the ground, they can be organised and skilled up and given a bit of structure. Introducing and developing hurling needs time and long term effort by enough interested men. Lets not over complicate it.

Somebody tell me different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'd contend that it is 90% of the problem

Once the bodies are on the ground, they can be organised and skilled up and given a bit of structure. Introducing and developing hurling needs time and long term effort by enough interested men. Lets not over complicate it.

Somebody tell me different
Sexism won't help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
 ;D
Are they not busy doing all the work in primary schools these days?   :)

point taken
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'd contend that it is 90% of the problem

Once the bodies are on the ground, they can be organised and skilled up and given a bit of structure. Introducing and developing hurling needs time and long term effort by enough interested men. Lets not over complicate it.

Somebody tell me different
Say the volunteers are gathered up. Where does the centralised strategy for promotion of coaching excellence come from in Antrim?

I know times have changed and many men are helping out more at home and can't get away with leaving this missus to it, as would have been the case in many households when we were growing up. However, I would say if there was some real structure there with a long-term plan and there was a request for volunteers to carry out the letter of what is required, you would get all the people you need. Maybe I am naive  :)

EDIT: I know a couple of fellas at the coaching conference lately but is this specific to Antrim? Is it just clubs? How does it fit into the county setup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Amalgamations at juvenile have rarely been anything other than temporary and cosmetic. To fully succeed with an amalgamation you are talking about permanently creating a new club, not a new under-16 team, from the remnants of other clubs. Are any clubs prepared to walk away from 100 years of club history to start fresh? A bridge too far for most I would say regardless of how much they are struggling.

Clubs can stay as they are I'm not looking to close clubs, form new hurling only clubs, were dedicated people with a single purpose work on juveniles through to senior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Amalgamations at juvenile have rarely been anything other than temporary and cosmetic. To fully succeed with an amalgamation you are talking about permanently creating a new club, not a new under-16 team, from the remnants of other clubs. Are any clubs prepared to walk away from 100 years of club history to start fresh? A bridge too far for most I would say regardless of how much they are struggling.

I wasn't referring to juvenile amalgamations I meant full club a amalgamations

Maybe their not desirable but if your have two clubs in close proximity and there struggling
Like some wounded animal due to lack of volunteers and player numbers then sometimes it's the lesser if the two evils.  If you look down south and see how many clubs with double barrel names have joined up for the greater good. Take mount Leinster this year for instance. Are they not improving there hurling standards with that arrangement instead of being reduced  to also rans

This whole debate started on Sunday after we got tanked by Limerick as if had never happened before
We don't have the resources to improve  and recruit more kids in Belfast and the north
And when I say resources I mean people on the ground who give a s..t enough to help out from admin to take some kid on a one to one and sort there weakness

One if the endearing memories of 2013 was watching rte and Ger Loughnane saying when Podge Collins was at school he couldn't strike of his right and look at him now

It's down to work and every clubs bluffers should find the time
Skulls dead right on this but that's the way it is. We are where deserve to be

Still I don't think we should refer to our current or past county squads as sh..te
They are trying so they deserve our respect

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
I'm referring to transferring from juvenile to senior - not club to club.

Also I'm not a fan of amalgamations full stop.
I have no objection to sanctions as the players come under one banner but I think amalgamtions don't represent as much and therefore the potential exists for lack of discipline on one side as recently shown - or different clubs carrying a flag of convenience just to win something.

As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'm not for amalgamtions either, I'm for forming hurling only clubs and football only clubs, that way players can still play both but for separate clubs.

Wildly contentious MR2 - but perhaps you're ahead of your time!
Fast forward X years and this will be the reality.
Glad you said it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 25, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Amalgamations at juvenile have rarely been anything other than temporary and cosmetic. To fully succeed with an amalgamation you are talking about permanently creating a new club, not a new under-16 team, from the remnants of other clubs. Are any clubs prepared to walk away from 100 years of club history to start fresh? A bridge too far for most I would say regardless of how much they are struggling.

Very true.
Amalgamation (to create new club not temporary) would seem logical for various clubs west Belfast to an outsider - but who is willing to walk away from their historical identity? And who can blame them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 05:30:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 01:20:16 PM
;D
Are they not busy doing all the work in primary schools these days?   :)

point taken

There's a lack male teachers - yes.

And our schools have been dictated to the extent where hurling is a health and safety risk rather than integral to the school.

Also time is precious - schools coaches time is voluntary so often spent with that person's club.
If you want hurling promoted in schools it wail take money.

After all they are teachers - not hurling coaches. Well that's in the part of they year they actually work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 05:35:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 25, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 25, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
As for it all boiling down to a lack of volunteers - obviously this is a huge problem but it's far from the only issue.

I'd contend that it is 90% of the problem

Once the bodies are on the ground, they can be organised and skilled up and given a bit of structure. Introducing and developing hurling needs time and long term effort by enough interested men. Lets not over complicate it.

Somebody tell me different

I'm not trying to be pointy skull - the association is built on volunteerism I know that.

But there still exists many situations where the volunteers exist, are skilled up, and have structure - yet it's not producing senior hurlers.

Yes what you outline is the building blocks without which nothing else is possible - but I was more referring to problems at the next stage.

After all - there's so many coaches around Belfast they are getting paid a handsome penny to take teams elsewhere!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 03, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
It's only the last couple of years though MR that St Enda's have started coming on. I'd expect it'd be another 3 or 4 years before(or if) that benefit is really seen at senior level.
Tommy, in Cormac Ross, Ruairi Diamond and John McGoldrick St Endas have three superb talents that would fit in to any senior PANEL in Antrim. A result of the good work they did at juvenille level. Whilst the club has done good work with the juveniles, as MR2 said, the same work needs to be put in at senior level. No point in bringing these kids through playing at the top table and competing with the best to suddenly find themselves competing in third tier competiitions. I hoep for those lads sake, St Endas get their act together soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 03, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
It's only the last couple of years though MR that St Enda's have started coming on. I'd expect it'd be another 3 or 4 years before(or if) that benefit is really seen at senior level.
Tommy, in Cormac Ross, Ruairi Diamond and John McGoldrick St Endas have three superb talents that would fit in to any senior PANEL in Antrim. A result of the good work they did at juvenille level. Whilst the club has done good work with the juveniles, as MR2 said, the same work needs to be put in at senior level. No point in bringing these kids through playing at the top table and competing with the best to suddenly find themselves competing in third tier competiitions. I hoep for those lads sake, St Endas get their act together soon.

It's vital that St Endas do that, can't express that enough having been through it all myself and how it pans out. Keeping the level up and beating other emerging teams (Creggan) and others is the difficulty. I hope to see it. Decent club with great mentors who have put a lot of effort in with a quality underage team that need to bring to senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 03, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 03, 2014, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 25, 2014, 10:48:06 AM
It's only the last couple of years though MR that St Enda's have started coming on. I'd expect it'd be another 3 or 4 years before(or if) that benefit is really seen at senior level.
Tommy, in Cormac Ross, Ruairi Diamond and John McGoldrick St Endas have three superb talents that would fit in to any senior PANEL in Antrim. A result of the good work they did at juvenille level. Whilst the club has done good work with the juveniles, as MR2 said, the same work needs to be put in at senior level. No point in bringing these kids through playing at the top table and competing with the best to suddenly find themselves competing in third tier competiitions. I hoep for those lads sake, St Endas get their act together soon.
Yes we have some great young fellas who we are trying to bring through, the challenge now is to get their heads conditioned to making the required sacrafices to fulfill their potential. Not all of them will make it never mind their past glorys. We've the same problems all the urban clubs suffer from so we'll see. Watching the younger boys train with the seniors has certainly confirmed the need for decent quality coaching at a young age .

It's vital that St Endas do that, can't express that enough having been through it all myself and how it pans out. Keeping the level up and beating other emerging teams (Creggan) and others is the difficulty. I hope to see it. Decent club with great mentors who have put a lot of effort in with a quality underage team that need to bring to senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
Hearing that McDermotts have gone to the wall. Not just the social club but the club as a whole is finished. Bad times.

They owed fees I was told and had't paid them, is that right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
Hearing that McDermotts have gone to the wall. Not just the social club but the club as a whole is finished. Bad times.

They owed fees I was told and had't paid them, is that right?
It's due to financial issues anyway.

Did they have the social club near the falls baths on the lower falls?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 04, 2014, 08:50:47 AM
Mc Dermotts were playing alongside Ardoyne last year for hurling purposes.

There is a team called Belfast Shamrocks who have entered the lower regions of the hurling leagues this season, 2014. I think they're an amalgamation of Ardoyne, Pearses and possibly the McDermotts players with one or two of the McIlhatton's from Mitchells.

Sorry to see their club go to the wall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 04, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 03, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
Hearing that McDermotts have gone to the wall. Not just the social club but the club as a whole is finished. Bad times.

They owed fees I was told and had't paid them, is that right?
It's due to financial issues anyway.

Did they have the social club near the falls baths on the lower falls?

The old bank, facing facing Dunvile Park, a bit further up from the Falls baths

We played them in the Junior hurling final, our second team, I was part of the management team and they were up by 3 in going into the final minute, we won a free way out on the wing and managed to pop it over the bar (tried to drop it in but over it went) the referee for whatever reasons added on at least 4/5 minutes, I'd already congratulated the McDees men on winning their first ever All County hurling championship, they even asked us all down to their club afterwards as they had a party on, we won a free about 80 yards out and Sean McGourty came up and hit the free, it came off the goal keepers hurl and big Conor knocked the rebound into the net!! referee blew the final whistle!! Talk about madness, they were going to kill the ref and then went on to wreck the changing rooms!!

Of course I took them up on their kind offer at their club afterwards, we went down with the cup and to their credit they set us up a pile of drink and we'd some craic!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Rest in peace Bushwhacker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2014, 09:18:03 AM
Sad to hear about McDermotts.
Raises the question - who is next?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2014, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Rest in peace Bushwhacker.

Was that at the weekend SIE?

RIP Whacker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 04, 2014, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Rest in peace Bushwhacker.

Was that at the weekend SIE?

RIP Whacker
aye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 04, 2014, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 04, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Rest in peace Bushwhacker.

RIP indeed.  A true gentleman and entertainer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
Was there ever a decision made on the Ballysaggart appeal against Creggan? Haven't heard anything yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 07:40:37 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
Was there ever a decision made on the Ballysaggart appeal against Creggan? Haven't heard anything yet.

Nothing yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
Dragging it out ritely. County still haven't released the full ACHL fixtures. Ridiculous considering they are supposed to start on Sun 30th March. Young fellas looking to book holidays and the longer they are made to wait, the more expensive their holiday becomes. Shouldn't take 4 months to sort the fixtures. Getting worse every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
Dragging it out ritely. County still haven't released the full ACHL fixtures. Ridiculous considering they are supposed to start on Sun 30th March. Young fellas looking to book holidays and the longer they are made to wait, the more expensive their holiday becomes. Shouldn't take 4 months to sort the fixtures. Getting worse every year

Ulster fixtures are out, referees already appointed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2014, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
Dragging it out ritely. County still haven't released the full ACHL fixtures. Ridiculous considering they are supposed to start on Sun 30th March. Young fellas looking to book holidays and the longer they are made to wait, the more expensive their holiday becomes. Shouldn't take 4 months to sort the fixtures. Getting worse every year

Given the fact the the GAA inter county master fixtures were out before Christmas - and vary very little year to year - the ACHL fixtures should have been out long ago!

Why don't you ask the delightfully hospitable and ever polite admin on the county website?

Two things for sure?
1) A few derbies on a Sunday afternoon - but trips around the county on a Wednesday night!
2) 4 games in a fortnight followed by 2 months sitting on your back side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
I have indeed seen a few people ask our delightful admin on the county guestbook about the availability of fixtures......he seems a little touchy on the subject lol. Then again he seems a little touchy on every subject. I think he was on holidays and missed the customer relations course the day it was on lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I'm the admin on the county guestbook (for 90% of responses anyway) - can you tell me where the 'touchy' replies are?

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I'm the admin on the county guestbook (for 90% of responses anyway) - can you tell me where the 'touchy' replies are?

Thanks

Great to hear from you Brendan!

If you are admin you can trawl back through a long history of responses which could be viewed as at best blunt - and at worst ignorant.

Worst thing is that many of these responses have been to genuine queries which have received an almost confrontational retort.

The fact that the site is also selective about what is posted is the prerogative of the county - but I'm sure this is not the first time you have heard of some consternation over admin responses to guests posts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2014, 10:58:25 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I'm the admin on the county guestbook (for 90% of responses anyway) - can you tell me where the 'touchy' replies are?

Thanks

Its probably the other guy who's the narky so and so :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 04, 2014, 11:21:16 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I'm the admin on the county guestbook (for 90% of responses anyway) - can you tell me where the 'touchy' replies are?

Thanks
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I would describe the majority of responses on the county guestbook as condescending at best. I could copy and paste just about every page on the guestbook to show examples. A bit of co-operation and humility would go a long way. I wouldn't consider posting a question on the county guestbook, it probably wouldn't get put up. I like most spectators in this county like to watch our games as much as possible and plan my weeks around getting to games. Get the information out asap, it is not much to ask over 3 months after clubs submitted their competition entries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

There are some comments which dont get posted because they are i) libellous, ii) incoherent, or iii) personally aimed, which is inappropriate. The majority of comments do get posted and where I have answers to questions posted, I'll provide them.

But posts like 'why did the referee last Thursday week not send off the opposition full forward......?? wont see the light of day, and rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2014, 11:46:05 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

There are some comments which dont get posted because they are i) libellous, ii) incoherent, or iii) personally aimed, which is inappropriate. The majority of comments do get posted and where I have answers to questions posted, I'll provide them.

But posts like 'why did the referee last Thursday week not send off the opposition full forward......?? wont see the light of day, and rightly so.

No arguments on that post getting barred Brendan but other posts with genuine queries have been routinely rebuffed with cheeky answers- you must see this yourself?

Also at time when a debate has started the admin has edited posted and commented only where suits - this us not conducive to interactivity between the county and members.

Lastly - some of the responses are just downright inappropriate!

I cannot for one moment believe you haven't seen this in the past or can't go back and look at them.

If you have recently taken over the admin and there's a new show in town then that's great to see and good luck with it - I might even start using the site again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 05, 2014, 12:03:01 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

There are some comments which dont get posted because they are i) libellous, ii) incoherent, or iii) personally aimed, which is inappropriate. The majority of comments do get posted and where I have answers to questions posted, I'll provide them.

But posts like 'why did the referee last Thursday week not send off the opposition full forward......?? wont see the light of day, and rightly so.

Have you recently taken over the role as admin? If that is the case then that is to be welcomed, I would recommend a different approach to the previous admin, he has created an image not to be aspiring to. Good luck in the role and hopefully a more user friendly county guestbook going forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 05, 2014, 12:06:09 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
I'm the admin on the county guestbook (for 90% of responses anyway) - can you tell me where the 'touchy' replies are?

Thanks
I take it you haven't been always doing that gig as the previous admin was the stereotypical Little Hitler control freak.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2014, 12:23:10 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

8 out of 10 cats cant be wrong surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 08:03:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2014, 12:23:10 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

8 out of 10 cats cant be wrong surely?

Surely lads who have an issue with the website could easily cut and paste some of the comments and retorts ad maybe Brendan could explain the tone of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 05, 2014, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2014, 08:03:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2014, 12:23:10 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 04, 2014, 11:37:51 PM
I don't think the above comments are fair or accurate any longer to be honest.

8 out of 10 cats cant be wrong surely?

Surely lads who have an issue with the website could easily cut and paste some of the comments and retorts ad maybe Brendan could explain the tone of them.

No harm to anyone but 'Brendan' is talking shite, he is not the admin for the guestbook. Another fact is that the county admin has been and still appears to be a ballbeg. End of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 09:06:42 AM
A lot of the replies on that guestbook are an embarassment. Just filter the messages more. I know they're filtered but they're not very well filtered and that leads to all the narky replies.

Whoever does it should remember they are also representing their county to the outside world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 05, 2014, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2014, 09:06:42 AM
A lot of the replies on that guestbook are an embarassment. Just filter the messages more. I know they're filtered but they're not very well filtered and that leads to all the narky replies.

Whoever does it should remember they are also representing their county to the outside world.

Very true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
Something is telling me this isn't a good thing, the time it's taking on the hole creggan front.  Did I here the team they defeated in semi has now also lodged a complaint.   Boys I never heard the like of it!!!   15V15.  If your good enough your old enough.  Move on!!  Bitter crying cnuts!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 05, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
Something is telling me this isn't a good thing, the time it's taking on the hole creggan front.  Did I here the team they defeated in semi has now also lodged a complaint.   Boys I never heard the like of it!!!   15V15.  If your good enough your old enough.  Move on!!  Bitter crying cnuts!!

It's all painting both the defeated teams and the GAA officialdom in a really bad light.

If creggan broke a rule then fair enough - rules are rules.
But as I understand this all revolves around interpretation - and the easiest thing to interpret is tag at Creggan were the victors on the pitch.

Really hope it all works out in their favour and isn't allowed to tarnish a fantastic achievement!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!

The saving grace for Creggan is the fact that Portumna also played a 16 year old in the AI semi-final against Na Pairsigh, so whats good for the goose and all that.

Take the game off Creggan then surely they'd need to take the game off Portumna and let Na Pairsigh through to the final and that's not going to happen..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!

How can they take this title of creggan, especially since the eligibility rule contested is so grey. At worst you could say creggan exploited a loophole at best they won it with two kids playing
My view is there playing senior hurling this year anyway so what's the big deal.
Ballysagart couldn't win this on the pitch after two attempts
I think if they win this in the corridors of croke park it will send out a worse message for future queries on rule interpretation
I see there manager apologised to the Wicklow ref but didn't apologise to creggan for calling them a bunch of footballers
Apart from the manager I don't think that the irish examiner has been impartial which is poor form also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
I'd have a few words for describing him. Maybe best left of here.  Clown of a man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2014, 11:49:03 AM
I see a few county players having a pop at UUJ for not supplying a bus or tops to the Freshers who were playing in an all Ireland semi final. Surely can't be right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 06, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!

I'd take the opposite interpretation. If they were going to do something about it, they would have done it quickly. I think its a mess (particularly if Portumna are in the same boat) and the powers that be are just going to let it slide i.e. there will be no announcement one way or another.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!

How can they take this title of creggan, especially since the eligibility rule contested is so grey. At worst you could say creggan exploited a loophole at best they won it with two kids playing
My view is there playing senior hurling this year anyway so what's the big deal.
Ballysagart couldn't win this on the pitch after two attempts
I think if they win this in the corridors of croke park it will send out a worse message for future queries on rule interpretation
I see there manager apologised to the Wicklow ref but didn't apologise to creggan for calling them a bunch of footballers
Apart from the manager I don't think that the irish examiner has been impartial which is poor form also

Creggan are senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2014, 11:49:03 AM
I see a few county players having a pop at UUJ for not supplying a bus or tops to the Freshers who were playing in an all Ireland semi final. Surely can't be right!

Can't possibly be true - Ulster hurling is always fully back and promoted - money is never a problem.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on March 06, 2014, 12:35:07 PM
Isn't the hurling club a seperate club in UUJ, so they get their own grant from the university for jerseys / travel to championship / playoff games.

So are they giving out about themselves, i.e they are not capable of running their own club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2014, 12:40:47 PM
Quote from: CSC on March 06, 2014, 12:35:07 PM
Isn't the hurling club a seperate club in UUJ, so they get their own grant from the university for jerseys / travel to championship / playoff games.

So are they giving out about themselves, i.e they are not capable of running their own club?

Also was there not a case of a bus being damaged on the return trip of an away match earlier in the year and this is why the bus company used will not supply a bus? Genuine question and not saying what I had heard was complete fact.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 01:53:58 PM
I no and have been talking to about 10 lads that has been there or still go there.   And they say it's an absolute joke!!   All money is filtered into the football some way or another.  So surely they no what there talking about having went there.  Lads getting set up with fake corses and getting back handers to actually play bog ball for them.  Having never actually set foot in the place!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
Just stating that money getting used on things such as this when they could have got the hurlers a set of jerseys.  No???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2014, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 01:53:58 PM
I no and have been talking to about 10 lads that has been there or still go there.   And they say it's an absolute joke!!   All money is filtered into the football some way or another.  So surely they no what there talking about having went there.  Lads getting set up with fake corses and getting back handers to actually play bog ball for them.  Having never actually set foot in the place!!
Of what relevance is this?

This is more or less an urban myth now, the colleges football is so well followed now that there is no way colleges would get away with this now.

Plus the clubs and societies are funded individually, so if the hurling club are short of money for jerseys or transport then that is their own doing. The other clubs raise money through sponsorship or events, was this not the case for the hurlers this year? Just for clarity, one club cannot access the money allocated to another club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2014, 02:24:46 PM
Back in my day there were attempts to merge the hurling and football clubs as 'it would mean more money for both due to the increase in the amalgamated clubs memberships'. The hurlers resisted it back then as a rather odious gentleman from my own county was/is heavily involved in the football side and you wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him.

Not sure how they're organised now though, maybe Dingy is taking too much coin to manage them and they can't afford jerseys!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Again.  Only really saying what I have been told by a numbers of lads. Don't no much about it nag.  So I quess am best not to say much about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Again.  Only really saying what I have been told by a numbers of lads. Don't no much about it nag.  So I quess am best not to say much about it.

Yeah I know SG but the same stuff keeps getting said about this subject year on year and usually ends up being the fact that the hurlers didnt bother their ass to do any fund raising and want to borrow kit of the other clubs to fulfil their fixtures.
Im open to being proved wrong in this case, but I know it has been the case in the past.

Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2014, 02:24:46 PM
Back in my day there were attempts to merge the hurling and football clubs as 'it would mean more money for both due to the increase in the amalgamated clubs memberships'. The hurlers resisted it back then as a rather odious gentleman from my own county was/is heavily involved in the football side and you wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him.
:o

He he....

Dont think he has become any more trustworthy in intervening years JC nor could you throw him any further at this point!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2014, 03:00:03 PM
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2014, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 06, 2014, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 05, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I agree.  Looks bad, IMO they should scrap the rule now also.I seen somewhere that the same thing happened and the results stood a few years back.  So I can't see why it's taken so long. Which has me thinking they'll get fcuked!!

How can they take this title of creggan, especially since the eligibility rule contested is so grey. At worst you could say creggan exploited a loophole at best they won it with two kids playing
My view is there playing senior hurling this year anyway so what's the big deal.
Ballysagart couldn't win this on the pitch after two attempts
I think if they win this in the corridors of croke park it will send out a worse message for future queries on rule interpretation
I see there manager apologised to the Wicklow ref but didn't apologise to creggan for calling them a bunch of footballers
Apart from the manager I don't think that the irish examiner has been impartial which is poor form also

Creggan are senior?

I meant the two lads are playing senior as in not minor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2014, 06:27:48 PM
Creggan still AI champions going by their chairmans Twitter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Looks to be that croke park confirmed it. Happy days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Looks to be that croke park confirmed it. Happy days.

Aye, great news. Slap it up Ballysaggart but suppose we have our fair share of clubs that like to appeal when they don't get things their own way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2014, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Looks to be that croke park confirmed it. Happy days.

Aye, great news. Slap it up Ballysaggart but suppose we have our fair share of clubs that like to appeal when they don't get things their own way.

Get them out there Paddy, I know a few alright, cnuts ;)

Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
Still cheated their way to a now hollow All Ireland.

how's that? surely the rule was wrong ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2014, 07:08:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 06:54:28 PM
Still cheated their way to a now hollow All Ireland.

Ai shame on that 16 year old for scorin 1-3 ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2014, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 07:39:27 PM
Ach, it's one to forget rather than celebrate. I mean, it's tainted success. This whole episode has sullied it altogether.

Totally, but I'd say they are celebrating right now all over again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
I think ballysaggart (town of the priest?) are the only ones tainted - in time we'll just know Creggan won an all-Ireland and fair play to them!

Will the GAA learn the lesson and copper fasten the rules?

And let's hear some bitching about clubs appealing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 06, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
How is winning an all ireland ( or indeed any senior match ) tainted by winning with a 16 year old??? If Creggan have been able to coach their 16 year olds to be good enough to win an all ireland then well done Creggan. It is a stupid rule introduced by people from big clubs who have no interest in supporting struggling junior clubs in either code.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2014, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 06, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2014, 02:24:46 PM
Back in my day there were attempts to merge the hurling and football clubs as 'it would mean more money for both due to the increase in the amalgamated clubs memberships'. The hurlers resisted it back then as a rather odious gentleman from my own county was/is heavily involved in the football side and you wouldn't trust him as far as you could throw him.
:o

He he....
The Liatroim fella?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 07, 2014, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 06, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
How is winning an all ireland ( or indeed any senior match ) tainted by winning with a 16 year old??? If Creggan have been able to coach their 16 year olds to be good enough to win an all ireland then well done Creggan. It is a stupid rule introduced by people from big clubs who have no interest in supporting struggling junior clubs in either code.

that makes no sense whatsoever.

regardless its good that that saga is over and put to bed. the GAA need to clarify this rule much clearer so as to avoid these silly things happening again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2014, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 06, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
How is winning an all ireland ( or indeed any senior match ) tainted by winning with a 16 year old??? If Creggan have been able to coach their 16 year olds to be good enough to win an all ireland then well done Creggan. It is a stupid rule introduced by people from big clubs who have no interest in supporting struggling junior clubs in either code.

that makes no sense whatsoever.

regardless its good that that saga is over and put to bed. the GAA need to clarify this rule much clearer so as to avoid these silly things happening again.

The rule was originally introduced at the behest of the "burn-out" agenda - but its fair to say it generally benefits the larger clubs who dont need to rely on players lower down in age groups.

I don't see any point in debating the rule - after all it was passed at Congress so that says enough.

Maybe it will be changed or clarified in the attempts to avoid this happening in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2014, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2014, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 06, 2014, 08:52:42 PM
How is winning an all ireland ( or indeed any senior match ) tainted by winning with a 16 year old??? If Creggan have been able to coach their 16 year olds to be good enough to win an all ireland then well done Creggan. It is a stupid rule introduced by people from big clubs who have no interest in supporting struggling junior clubs in either code.

that makes no sense whatsoever.

regardless its good that that saga is over and put to bed. the GAA need to clarify this rule much clearer so as to avoid these silly things happening again.

The rule was originally introduced at the behest of the "burn-out" agenda - but its fair to say it generally benefits the larger clubs who dont need to rely on players lower down in age groups.

I don't see any point in debating the rule - after all it was passed at Congress so that says enough.

Maybe it will be changed or clarified in the attempts to avoid this happening in the future.

With Creggan getting the nod it's seems there were no issues with it, they got a ruling from Croke Park prior to the semi finals and played the players based on that. The kid was over age after Jan 1st so allowed to play in senior competition job done. Ballysagart didn't even lodge the complaint within the 3 day appeal limit so they were trying to ensure Creggan didn't win either ffs, well they will be remembered for all the wrong reasons, while Creggan will be remembered as the first Antrim club to win the Junior All Ireland Hurling Championship, fair fcuks to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 07, 2014, 10:56:07 AM
Delighted is an understatement!!!!   As for the tainted post,  such a load of balls!!!  The Waterford men is all that is tainted.  Fair play creggan.  Back on another 3 day rip!!!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2014, 10:57:43 AM
I was only acting the ballix tbh.

We know..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2014, 12:02:37 PM
Plenty didn't  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 07, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
See on the hoganstand a Waterford man claiming ballysaggart has been "hung out to dry" by croke park. And that they can hold there heads high.   Am I seeing different here.  Would anyone take anything out of getting awarded a game?  For I'd rather be bait out the gate as try to win it behind closed doors. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 07, 2014, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 07, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
See on the hoganstand a Waterford man claiming ballysaggart has been "hung out to dry" by croke park. And that they can hold there heads high.   Am I seeing different here.  Would anyone take anything out of getting awarded a game?  For I'd rather be bait out the gate as try to win it behind closed doors.

They should know when to button it. Getting boring now...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 09, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
Laois 2-21 Antrim 0-21 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 09, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Another dis-heartening loss.

Is it Kevin Ryan & Neil McManus fault or is it loughgiel's fault!

Or is this just representative of our lower status in the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 09, 2014, 08:49:51 PM
Does anyone know the way relegation works from NHL1B?  If Antrim finish bottom (which i presume is gonna happen)  do they get relegated straight off, or do they play a relegation playoff?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 09, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
I think there's an endless stream of play-offs which halt club games - and then they re-structure the leagues anyway.

Then come summer another endless stream of county championship games and play-offs - which again halt all club games.

At the end of it nothing is really lost and certainly nothing is gained.

It was the same last year - and it will be the same next year.

Throw in a bit of a fuss over Liam Watson and that's Antrim hurling summed up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 08:22:18 AM
Two bottom teams play off the loser then plays off against winner of Div2!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 10, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 08:22:18 AM
Two bottom teams play off the loser then plays off against winner of Div2!

For some strange reason I think its only the relegation/promotion from Div1B/Div2A where this process is in place!!

Kerry with half a dozen Tipp lads would be strong favourites to be topping Div2A and won't be easy pickings for Antrim..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 10, 2014, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
Most of the NA teams have opted for the NA winter league, its easier on the diesel. We played Cloughmills yesterday, beat by 2 points. They were missing a few and shot a lot of wides but was a good tough clean game. Good to get at it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
Aye Last Man , it's about clearing the cobwebs before the season starts in 4 weeks. Still plenty of mistakes and wrong calls to iron out but that's what these games are for
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 10, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
MR2, according to administrators, the Ulster League is being re formatted this year. Allegedly it is going to be run throughout the season and not just a pre season thing. In addition, it will not include the Antrim teams. Possibly a way of developing hurling throughout the province.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 10, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
MR2, according to administrators, the Ulster League is being re formatted this year. Allegedly it is going to be run throughout the season and not just a pre season thing. In addition, it will not include the Antrim teams. Possibly a way of developing hurling throughout the province.

Would playing teams in Antrim improve the standard? Either or we've been flat out with challenge games, 4 weeks to the Ballycran game at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 10, 2014, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 10, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
MR2, according to administrators, the Ulster League is being re formatted this year. Allegedly it is going to be run throughout the season and not just a pre season thing. In addition, it will not include the Antrim teams. Possibly a way of developing hurling throughout the province.

That remains to be seen.

The downside of the changes to the UHL is that we now need to go looking friendlies, Rossa past and Faughs of Dublin next weekend..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 10, 2014, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 10, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
MR2, according to administrators, the Ulster League is being re formatted this year. Allegedly it is going to be run throughout the season and not just a pre season thing. In addition, it will not include the Antrim teams. Possibly a way of developing hurling throughout the province.

That remains to be seen.

The downside of the changes to the UHL is that we now need to go looking friendlies, Rossa past and Faughs of Dublin next weekend..

We are off to Dublin next weekend also. Makes a lot of sense playing Dublin teams, only a hour and half away to northside Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 10, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 10, 2014, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
Did Naomh Gall play Rossa at the weekend MR2?

Played them last week lost by a couple of points, beat Portaferry on Sat and the reserves (I played, legs sore today) O'Dees on Sunday.

Rossa Played Johnneys team on Sunday, was a ok affair till it got a little fiesty at the end, Rossa with the bare minimum and Ballygalget missing county lads.

Whats the story with a lot of Antrim teams not playing the Ulster League?

Any other challenge games this weekend?
Most of the NA teams have opted for the NA winter league, its easier on the diesel. We played Cloughmills yesterday, beat by 2 points. They were missing a few and shot a lot of wides but was a good tough clean game. Good to get at it again.

Ulster league is running from June to August so doesn't suit the Antrim Clubs to enter. After yesterday's game, Ballycastle have withdrawn from the North Antrim league to try and get more competitive games. We beat Glenarm yesterday 4-24 to 1-03. Need to play teams closer to our level to get ready for ACHL.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Hmmm, the North Antrim league thing should have been graded surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 10, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Hmmm, the North Antrim league thing should have been graded surely?

Definitely should of had 2 divisions.....Ballycastle, Cushendall, Carey, Cloughmills, Randalstown,Glenariff and Cushendun (the div 1 & 2 teams) should have been in division one and the rest (div 3 & 4) Armoy, St Endas, Glenarm, Glenravel, in division 2. All 11 teams in a one way league is a pointless exercise.

What are the div 3 & 4 teams gaining by getting a hammering? Armoy hammered Glenravel and Carey beat Cushendun by 15 points yesterday as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 10, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Hmmm, the North Antrim league thing should have been graded surely?

Definitely should of had 2 divisions.....Ballycastle, Cushendall, Carey, Cloughmills, Randalstown,Glenariff and Cushendun (the div 1 & 2 teams) should have been in division one and the rest (div 3 & 4) Armoy, St Endas, Glenarm, Glenravel, in division 2. All 11 teams in a one way league is a pointless exercise.

What are the div 3 & 4 teams gaining by getting a hammering? Armoy hammered Glenravel and Carey beat Cushendun by 15 points yesterday as well.

Even with county players away and the like you'll still have better squads available than the lesser teams. Cushendall's reserve team last year was very impressive so even if they just played that team they'd be too strong for most Div 2 teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 10, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 10, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Hmmm, the North Antrim league thing should have been graded surely?

Definitely should of had 2 divisions.....Ballycastle, Cushendall, Carey, Cloughmills, Randalstown,Glenariff and Cushendun (the div 1 & 2 teams) should have been in division one and the rest (div 3 & 4) Armoy, St Endas, Glenarm, Glenravel, in division 2. All 11 teams in a one way league is a pointless exercise.

What are the div 3 & 4 teams gaining by getting a hammering? Armoy hammered Glenravel and Carey beat Cushendun by 15 points yesterday as well.

Even with county players away and the like you'll still have better squads available than the lesser teams. Cushendall's reserve team last year was very impressive so even if they just played that team they'd be too strong for most Div 2 teams

How difficult is it to get a group of hurling people around a table for an evening and work out some kind of workable pre-season type 'tournament' that benefits all? You would think this is nuclear science or something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 10, 2014, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Hmmm, the North Antrim league thing should have been graded surely?

Definitely should of had 2 divisions.....Ballycastle, Cushendall, Carey, Cloughmills, Randalstown,Glenariff and Cushendun (the div 1 & 2 teams) should have been in division one and the rest (div 3 & 4) Armoy, St Endas, Glenarm, Glenravel, in division 2. All 11 teams in a one way league is a pointless exercise.

What are the div 3 & 4 teams gaining by getting a hammering? Armoy hammered Glenravel and Carey beat Cushendun by 15 points yesterday as well.

Even with county players away and the like you'll still have better squads available than the lesser teams. Cushendall's reserve team last year was very impressive so even if they just played that team they'd be too strong for most Div 2 teams

How difficult is it to get a group of hurling people around a table for an evening and work out some kind of workable pre-season type 'tournament' that benefits all? You would think this is nuclear science or something.

They do would you believe!! I think though a better option would be to to have the managers, and the sec's (just to keep it within the rules) to sit around and arrange something, the managers will come to a better solution than the committee men/women
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.

We've winable games at home this year but far to tight to call. Would love to catch one of the bigger teams off the boil one week away from home, would certainly give us a boost, big numbers training away this year and the bench is looking very healthy, hopefully we can keep everyone happy and they stay for the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.

We've winable games at home this year but far to tight to call. Would love to catch one of the bigger teams off the boil one week away from home, would certainly give us a boost, big numbers training away this year and the bench is looking very healthy, hopefully we can keep everyone happy and they stay for the season

I wonder why that is  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.

We've winable games at home this year but far to tight to call. Would love to catch one of the bigger teams off the boil one week away from home, would certainly give us a boost, big numbers training away this year and the bench is looking very healthy, hopefully we can keep everyone happy and they stay for the season

I wonder why that is  ;)

Strange thing that ::)  I played my first game of the year too, those feckers aren't going to have the chance of getting to a final without me ffs!! 26 years I've been hanging around for this lol!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:59:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.

We've winable games at home this year but far to tight to call. Would love to catch one of the bigger teams off the boil one week away from home, would certainly give us a boost, big numbers training away this year and the bench is looking very healthy, hopefully we can keep everyone happy and they stay for the season

I wonder why that is  ;)

Strange thing that ::)  I played my first game of the year too, those feckers aren't going to have the chance of getting to a final without me ffs!! 26 years I've been hanging around for this lol!!

Did you never think to yourself I am the common denominator during those barren 26 years?   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:59:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 11, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 11, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 10, 2014, 11:13:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on March 10, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Is anything needed?

It is only March, hurling is much more enjoyable in the better weather and the championship is not until late Aug/Sept.

Sure if no one has a pre season tournament we all start off equally disadvantaged.
You're a bit of a stranger round these parts lately!

So, don't try to improve yourself and accept that you will be in just as bad a starting position as everyone else? Can't see any manager/team accepting that nonsense.

ACHL division 1 splits at the halfway stage this year. After playing each team once (9 games) the league splits into a relegation group of 5 teams and a group of 5 who can win the league. All teams will want to hit the ground running and get points on the board early to stay out of the relegation group.

You will only have a total of 13 games in division 1 this year. 9 before the split, and a further 4 against the teams in your half of the league.

We've winable games at home this year but far to tight to call. Would love to catch one of the bigger teams off the boil one week away from home, would certainly give us a boost, big numbers training away this year and the bench is looking very healthy, hopefully we can keep everyone happy and they stay for the season

I wonder why that is  ;)

Strange thing that ::)  I played my first game of the year too, those feckers aren't going to have the chance of getting to a final without me ffs!! 26 years I've been hanging around for this lol!!

Did you never think to yourself I am the common denominator during those barren 26 years?   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I'll get my coat..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
Bonamargy who said playing challenge matches or preseason matches in feb/March actually improves quality of hurling, I'll accept it will help pick up league points early doors but so what.  The season starts and end with Championship!

Not my choice but I'd quite happily let a team focus on conditioning and working on hurling weaknesses without the distractions of hurling through bogs in March, build performances through the league and be ready for Championship

Tony - more a casual lurker these days!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 12, 2014, 07:59:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
Bonamargy who said playing challenge matches or preseason matches in feb/March actually improves quality of hurling, I'll accept it will help pick up league points early doors but so what.  The season starts and end with Championship!

Not my choice but I'd quite happily let a team focus on conditioning and working on hurling weaknesses without the distractions of hurling through bogs in March, build performances through the league and be ready for Championship

Tony - more a casual lurker these days!

You can train all you want. There is no better preparation than playing matches. See you in September then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 12, 2014, 07:59:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
Bonamargy who said playing challenge matches or preseason matches in feb/March actually improves quality of hurling, I'll accept it will help pick up league points early doors but so what.  The season starts and end with Championship!

Not my choice but I'd quite happily let a team focus on conditioning and working on hurling weaknesses without the distractions of hurling through bogs in March, build performances through the league and be ready for Championship

Tony - more a casual lurker these days!

You can train all you want. There is no better preparation than playing matches. See you in September then!

Confident then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2014, 08:48:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 12, 2014, 07:59:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
Bonamargy who said playing challenge matches or preseason matches in feb/March actually improves quality of hurling, I'll accept it will help pick up league points early doors but so what.  The season starts and end with Championship!

Not my choice but I'd quite happily let a team focus on conditioning and working on hurling weaknesses without the distractions of hurling through bogs in March, build performances through the league and be ready for Championship

Tony - more a casual lurker these days!

You can train all you want. There is no better preparation than playing matches. See you in September then!

Confident then?

It is a long long way to September  :)
There will be lots of ups and down between now and the first championship weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 12, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
I mean, I look forward to and will be at lots of good games of hurling from now until the championship in September. The hurling season is too short. It is more important than ever this season to hit the ground running and get league points on the board.  You can concentrate on the championship after the halfway split IF you are in the top 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on March 12, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
I don't agree its too short - the hurling season is too long already. Only teams playing in February should be those in AI campaigns.

I think hurling in pitches in march is completely different to hurling in late summer.  I don't agree playing friendlies or Ulster league now helps get ready for Championship, but a good fitness/skill programme now would
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 12, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 12, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
I don't agree its too short - the hurling season is too long already. Only teams playing in February should be those in AI campaigns.

I think hurling in pitches in march is completely different to hurling in late summer.  I don't agree playing friendlies or Ulster league now helps get ready for Championship, but a good fitness/skill programme now would

I agree there shouldn't be matches in March/April but the fixtures committee continue to play club games (league and championship) outside the core summer months of June/July/August. That is the long standing issue here. I know county teams, leinster hurling championship, Ulster football cship etc etc are on. But playing our club cship off over 3 weeks in Septmeber (when the weather is on the downturn) is not the solution and chances are you'll be standing up in Ballycastle on county final day at the end of September in the cold with the wind howling and rain lashing which will not provide a great spectacle for players or supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 12, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: cfclg on March 12, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: maxpower on March 12, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
I don't agree its too short - the hurling season is too long already. Only teams playing in February should be those in AI campaigns.

I think hurling in pitches in march is completely different to hurling in late summer.  I don't agree playing friendlies or Ulster league now helps get ready for Championship, but a good fitness/skill programme now would

I agree there shouldn't be matches in March/April but the fixtures committee continue to play club games (league and championship) outside the core summer months of June/July/August. That is the long standing issue here. I know county teams, leinster hurling championship, Ulster football cship etc etc are on. But playing our club cship off over 3 weeks in Septmeber (when the weather is on the downturn) is not the solution and chances are you'll be standing up in Ballycastle on county final day at the end of September in the cold with the wind howling and rain lashing which will not provide a great spectacle for players or supporters.
Was Ballycastle not basking in sunshine on county final day last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 10:47:25 AM
I don' think the issue of fixture dates in confined to Antrim - or hurling.

Across both codes, and across the country - someone at National level needs to find a way of marrying the inter-county and club seasons better!

The county season goes on far too long - it's basically all year round.
I think pretty much everyone agrees with that and the amount of column inches devoted to it is amazing - so do something about it.

This would allow for an improved club scene.

Also, perhaps have a period of time during the year where county activity is on hold, and allow club games. This would need done within the context of championship re-structure and sounds radical. However look at the Heineken Cup in rugby - it takes a natural break between groups / knockout when the six nations is on. This works well for different levels of fixtures - and especially for supporters.

But the status quo cannot go on as it's killing the club scene all over Ireland - as recognised by no less than the new Uachtaran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 12, 2014, 10:50:44 AM
Should certainly be less breaks in games for club players. If we played more games in the summer we wouldn't have to play championship at the end of September and finish the leagues in late October when pitches have gone again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2014, 02:32:48 PM
Club competitions are meerly a means to an end for the top brass in CP. We develop IC players that they then use to fill stadium all throughout the summer months. They're not about to give up the cash cow just because its affecting club competitions. Not one flying f do they give about their rights or frustrations
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 12, 2014, 02:32:48 PM
Club competitions are meerly a means to an end for the top brass in CP. We develop IC players that they then use to fill stadium all throughout the summer months. They're not about to give up the cash cow just because its affecting club competitions. Not one flying f do they give about their rights or frustrations

Sure the club game in the south has more or less gone to winter championships, look at when the Munster and Leinster championships are played off. Clubs just seem to accept that that is the ways things are and get on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
That's true skull - but how long before a dying club scene impacts on the supply to the counties?

Nag this is indeed the case - but the clubs in those provinces are not happy about it either! Ofcourse they have to get on with it but as I said there's so many column inches devoted to the need to re-organise. And it's mostly in southern papers!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
That's true skull - but how long before a dying club scene impacts on the supply to the counties?

Nag this is indeed the case - but the clubs in those provinces are not happy about it either! Ofcourse they have to get on with it but as I said there's so many column inches devoted to the need to re-organise. And it's mostly in southern papers!

I was playing devils advocate btdtgtt, there is a massive issue for top level hurling and for participation level hurling.
The powers that be know its an issue yet are sticking heads in the sand over and as you have said its a problem coming down the tracks for the game as a whole and that includes the intercounty game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 12, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
That's true skull - but how long before a dying club scene impacts on the supply to the counties?

Nag this is indeed the case - but the clubs in those provinces are not happy about it either! Ofcourse they have to get on with it but as I said there's so many column inches devoted to the need to re-organise. And it's mostly in southern papers!

In some counties with the advent of development squads and what not, the need for a strong club game isn't the be all and end all.

Most top hurlers in big hurling counties wouldn't be seen near their club from one end of the year to the next till a run out for championship, barring the likes of Kilkenny where Cody lets them play with their clubs right the way through the AI championships.
Young lads on the up are picked on the strength of minor or U-21 performances a-la Clare, Dublin etc, etc. Very few lads are now plucked from the club scene into the intercounty scene as they wouldn't have been doing all the 'required' pre-season stuff..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
Very much so NAG - I fully agree.

JC I am really not convinced by how the development squads operate in Antrim.

It's fine in the big counties with big numbers - but in Antrim I see these squads taking players away from clubs and as such harming the overall picture. I am fully supportive of the weekends down south playing games but continuous training sessions with the team are not going to improve their standards any more than being with clubs and ensuring that scene is allowed to prosper. That will benefit them.

Also my experience is that they become the same players on the squad - harder to get off than on. Perhaps this proves that they can subdue the overall scene or maybe it's a lack of scope from officialdom.

Overall I think for Antrim these development squads should be limited to set weekends away with games and "celebrity" coaching sessions rather than continuous training through the year.

In terms of senior - as I say the county management must release players or croke park needs to guarantee set club periods. Otherwise the GAA will become so top heavy that'll it will fall over!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2014, 08:57:38 AM
to be fair coaching and training has changed so much at club level in antrim since from whenever i was playing (and no doubt people on here) that its a totally different game now. that said the training is no different from what the other counties are doing and how we are executing it.

they have much bigger numbers to pick from which is a big factor. in KK 90% of the county could be involved in the GAA in some sort of fashion whereas in Antrim it could be around 20% of the county.

in antrim our county set up relies on the clubs to produce the hurlers for them whereas KK, clare etc their players improve at county level then go back to their clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 13, 2014, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
Very much so NAG - I fully agree.

JC I am really not convinced by how the development squads operate in Antrim.

It's fine in the big counties with big numbers - but in Antrim I see these squads taking players away from clubs and as such harming the overall picture. I am fully supportive of the weekends down south playing games but continuous training sessions with the team are not going to improve their standards any more than being with clubs and ensuring that scene is allowed to prosper. That will benefit them.

Also my experience is that they become the same players on the squad - harder to get off than on. Perhaps this proves that they can subdue the overall scene or maybe it's a lack of scope from officialdom.

Overall I think for Antrim these development squads should be limited to set weekends away with games and "celebrity" coaching sessions rather than continuous training through the year.

In terms of senior - as I say the county management must release players or croke park needs to guarantee set club periods. Otherwise the GAA will become so top heavy that'll it will fall over!

Trying to run development squads in Antrim (or Down) the same way they're run in Dublin or the likes won't work. I know we can't afford to be without four or five minors let alone four or five seniors and still put out a team on a sunday, but thats whats happening in most counties, the league hurling is carrying on without the intercounty players.
For clubs in Antrim and Down to play without their county players would be a huge drop in standard or you get what we have now, either players expected to play two days in a row, no game at all or squeezed in on a wednesday night.
In general I think Antrim club fixtures in Div1 are as good as can be expected with the long drawn out Leinster championship/qualifying rounds, then us playing in a round robin Christy Ring, then that worthless Ulster championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 13, 2014, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 13, 2014, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 12, 2014, 06:55:25 PM
Very much so NAG - I fully agree.

JC I am really not convinced by how the development squads operate in Antrim.

It's fine in the big counties with big numbers - but in Antrim I see these squads taking players away from clubs and as such harming the overall picture. I am fully supportive of the weekends down south playing games but continuous training sessions with the team are not going to improve their standards any more than being with clubs and ensuring that scene is allowed to prosper. That will benefit them.

Also my experience is that they become the same players on the squad - harder to get off than on. Perhaps this proves that they can subdue the overall scene or maybe it's a lack of scope from officialdom.

Overall I think for Antrim these development squads should be limited to set weekends away with games and "celebrity" coaching sessions rather than continuous training through the year.

In terms of senior - as I say the county management must release players or croke park needs to guarantee set club periods. Otherwise the GAA will become so top heavy that'll it will fall over!

Trying to run development squads in Antrim (or Down) the same way they're run in Dublin or the likes won't work. I know we can't afford to be without four or five minors let alone four or five seniors and still put out a team on a sunday, but thats whats happening in most counties, the league hurling is carrying on without the intercounty players.
For clubs in Antrim and Down to play without their county players would be a huge drop in standard or you get what we have now, either players expected to play two days in a row, no game at all or squeezed in on a wednesday night.
In general I think Antrim club fixtures in Div1 are as good as can be expected with the long drawn out Leinster championship/qualifying rounds, then us playing in a round robin Christy Ring, then that worthless Ulster championship.

I tend to agree with that last statement, the CCC are doing the best job they can and to be honest it is probably one of the most thankless jobs ever. Unfortunately our county teams dictate the club scene and not the other way around. I feel if club hurling or indeed football was really prospering over a few years with good games and big crowds etc, eventually the level of our county team would increase. Throwing all our eggs in the one basket with the county team each year just doesn't work IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 02:11:29 PM
Absolutely - I don't blame CCCC - I blame the system where the over whelming majority of players are sacrificed for the few on the county squad.
The dropping club scene then impacts on the county set up.

It's the same with the development squad - are they really developing hurling in the the county?

Current state of Antrim hurling on the inter county scene negates any argument in favour of the status quo.

Change is needed in priorities and fixtures across the GAA.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 14, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

Locals residents delighted by this no doubt!

Our present county board couldn't run a bath. Time for change, surely there is someone passionate enough with a few brain cells out there to take this on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2014, 07:44:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on March 14, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

Locals residents delighted by this no doubt!

Our present county board couldn't run a bath. Time for change, surely there is someone passionate enough with a few brain cells out there to take this on.

Your right but this can only be achieved by the clubs. They need to stand together and bring down the sham of a setup..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 14, 2014, 08:31:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

You seem to be close to this HS, so tell us the solution?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
what is the craic here with this social club? who actually owns it and how can they stop work going ahead?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 14, 2014, 08:50:53 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2014, 07:44:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on March 14, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

Locals residents delighted by this no doubt!

Our present county board couldn't run a bath. Time for change, surely there is someone passionate enough with a few brain cells out there to take this on.

Your right but this can only be achieved by the clubs. They need to stand together and bring down the sham of a setup..

The clubs can't get rid of Frankie though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2014, 08:53:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 14, 2014, 08:31:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

You seem to be close to this HS, so tell us the solution?

I think they should lower the part that will stop the sun (3 days a year lol) from shinning and give the the bar back to the social members and give the residents 20 grand!! Job done, had they have done that at the start there would have been no hassle ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 14, 2014, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 14, 2014, 08:31:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

You seem to be close to this HS, so tell us the solution?
Here was the solution. When the social club told our county that they were prepared to walk away without any issues 2 weeks before they planned to flatten the place - don't answer "We decide when you fcukin leave, not you".
When asked questions at a meeting about the concerns members of the social club have - don't answer "Fcuk up".
Don't go off your own bat and get the locks changed.
Don't go off your own bat and turn the water off.
Don't go off your own bat and turn the electricty off.
Don't phone a hire company and tell them to get their generator out of the ground or you will ensure they get no contracts in the new building.
All of the above done by members of our county executive.
The reasons why they are continually being dragged into court - and losing.

Casement Social Club, to my knowledge, have no interest in holding up or opposing the redevelopment of Casement Park. They are now hoping to negotiate a solution with Antrim GAA, be that in terms of premises within the new stadium and/or temporary premises in the interim, I am not sure.

It is time, however, that our county executive stop with the childish, bully-boy nonsense that they have been up to for almost a year now. It is costing our county a fortune and actually weakening their position.

I don't think there's any doubt that the county executive attitude to the social club is once again concerned with personal vandettas and preserving their own little empires - unfortunately this has been done at the expense of legalities which ultimately the clubs and ordinary gaels will pay for.

Will the executive be held to account for this?

Another narrative is that the social club members and the residents are against the casement re-development.
This is simply not true - but an easy ticket to sell in the media.

To my mind - both groups support the redevelopment - just not in it's current form.
And quite frankly, anyone who argues that the new stadium is too big, and is no longer under the control of Antrim GAA - is quite correct!

In short a couple of thing need exposed;

- our current executive have cost us all money trying to settle personal vendettas using the cloak of casement redevelopment
- the social club / members are not against a new casement, but they have legitimate concerns over the form of the re-development

The fact is that this is another example of how influences outside of the GAA, and within the GAA but outside of Antrim/Belfast, have been able to rail-road over ordinary Gaels at the behest of money and politics.

If that sounds like some grand statement from a soap-box it's honestly not supposed to be - its a statement of fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 14, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 14, 2014, 08:58:39 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 14, 2014, 08:31:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 13, 2014, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I see county Antrim GAA in the news for all the wrong reasons again;

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26562258

A tad embarrassing. Laughable in fact!
Embarrassing, yes. Laughable, not in the slightest.
We are being let down time and again by our county executive. Something has to give.

You seem to be close to this HS, so tell us the solution?
Here was the solution. When the social club told our county that they were prepared to walk away without any issues 2 weeks before they planned to flatten the place - don't answer "We decide when you fcukin leave, not you".
When asked questions at a meeting about the concerns members of the social club have - don't answer "Fcuk up".
Don't go off your own bat and get the locks changed.
Don't go off your own bat and turn the water off.
Don't go off your own bat and turn the electricty off.
Don't phone a hire company and tell them to get their generator out of the ground or you will ensure they get no contracts in the new building.
All of the above done by members of our county executive.
The reasons why they are continually being dragged into court - and losing.

Casement Social Club, to my knowledge, have no interest in holding up or opposing the redevelopment of Casement Park. They are now hoping to negotiate a solution with Antrim GAA, be that in terms of premises within the new stadium and/or temporary premises in the interim, I am not sure.

It is time, however, that our county executive stop with the childish, bully-boy nonsense that they have been up to for almost a year now. It is costing our county a fortune and actually weakening their position.

I don't think there's any doubt that the county executive attitude to the social club is once again concerned with personal vandettas and preserving their own little empires - unfortunately this has been done at the expense of legalities which ultimately the clubs and ordinary gaels will pay for.

Will the executive be held to account for this?

Another narrative is that the social club members and the residents are against the casement re-development.
This is simply not true - but an easy ticket to sell in the media.

To my mind - both groups support the redevelopment - just not in it's current form.
And quite frankly, anyone who argues that the new stadium is too big, and is no longer under the control of Antrim GAA - is quite correct!

In short a couple of thing need exposed;

- our current executive have cost us all money trying to settle personal vendettas using the cloak of casement redevelopment
- the social club / members are not against a new casement, but they have legitimate concerns over the form of the re-development

The fact is that this is another example of how influences outside of the GAA, and within the GAA but outside of Antrim/Belfast, have been able to rail-road over ordinary Gaels at the behest of money and politics.

If that sounds like some grand statement from a soap-box it's honestly not supposed to be - its a statement of fact.

The strings are being pulled from well beyond casement, the landlords tactics against the tricky Tennant..nothing new here albeit clumsy but I've heard of worse. I couldn't care less about the social club tbh. Considering some of the things I've heard said in there the betterment of Antrim GAA wouldn't be a high priority for alot of members. It also tnakes 2 to tango in the courtroom. If I wasn't wanted about the place i'd go somewhere else.  I'll also not be standing for the executive next year, should be an easy run for any takers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 15, 2014, 02:21:37 PM
Seen a post on Facebook by a person I'd have a lot of time for so can only take what he says as true. But the members of the social club are now being threatened to be sued?
Seriously ? WTF is going on. A shambolic way to handle any situation if true.
It's getting worse the more it goes on. The problem of not having business men in charge.
Any truth in this HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2014, 03:52:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 15, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
100% true. A letter from O'Hare Solicitors on behalf of Antrim County Board threatening court action on each member of the club.

Outrageous.
Where is Brendan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2014, 07:21:08 PM
Would it be possible to find anyone more incompetence to run our county?
Would it be possible to find anyone more unaccountable?

At what stage does it have to get to before "someone" steps in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on March 15, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 15, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
100% true. A letter from O'Hare Solicitors on behalf of Antrim County Board threatening court action on each member of the club.

Outrageous.

That's bullying.

I can't see this being well received. Residents will be sued next ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 15, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
Where is Brendan?

Right here. If you mean me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2014, 11:55:15 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 15, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
Where is Brendan?

Right here. If you mean me.
Aye you. As PR man for the county do some PR and tell us the craic re. the ongoing shambles that is the Casement/social club redevelopment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 16, 2014, 12:24:08 AM
I have no knowledge or input as to what is happening re the social club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
As I've been saying for some time on this forum, and elsewhere, the Antrim set up is a joke. Hopefully now, with this obnoxious behaviour by our county board, the patrons of all our clubs will back our fellow members. I know I will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:39:20 PM
On another note. We're up by 4 against cork. Just got a goal. Captain marvel just given a yellow. Could have been a red. the man is out of form, apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 02:46:53 PM
Great stuff SIE, keep the score updates coming?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:48:37 PM
Data coverage a problem. Half time. 1-09 to 0-08.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:52:50 PM
Don't get hopes up. The hurricane was with us in the first half. Probably should have been 9 or 10 up to be safe. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:56:06 PM
Currently talking to a cork man. He was at the dubs/ Kk match last night. Brilliant he said. First question he asked. "Why's Watson not............." 

Indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:02:20 PM
Still 4 up. Playing well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:06:13 PM
A dozen or so wides with the wind in the first half. Could still come back to bite us on the arse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2014, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 02:56:06 PM
Currently talking to a cork man. He was at the dubs/ Kk match last night. Brilliant he said. First question he asked. "Why's Watson not............." 

Indeed.

Did you tell him he was playing for Dublin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
Who said it was Dublin?    ;)

2 up 12 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
Cork won by 3 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
McManus sent off. Seriously lads, all joking aside. When is Ryan going to take charge of this team? Neil is a brilliant hurler on his day. But he's been out of form for at least 6 months. He shouldn't be near that team. Never mind captain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 16, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
McManus sent off. Seriously lads, all joking aside. When is Ryan going to take charge of this team? Neil is a brilliant hurler on his day. But he's been out of form for at least 6 months. He shouldn't be near that team. Never mind captain.

More importantly, what was the performance like? Who played well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Sounds like they have a platform to build on for the real season ahead.
Were Cork full strength today?
Were we missing many? 
Was it a straight red ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Sounds like they have a platform to build on for the real season ahead.
Were Cork full strength today?
Were we missing many? 
Was it a straight red ?
second yellow. But could have had a straight red in the first half. Our backs were really good today, apart from the last 10 minutes. Typically Antrim.  Shorty was dropped, came on the second half. Made a world of difference.  Players like shorty need to be starting against cork.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
McManus sent off. Seriously lads, all joking aside. When is Ryan going to take charge of this team? Neil is a brilliant hurler on his day. But he's been out of form for at least 6 months. He shouldn't be near that team. Never mind captain.

Your a bitter and twisted man!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Sounds like they have a platform to build on for the real season ahead.
Were Cork full strength today?
Were we missing many? 
Was it a straight red ?
second yellow. But could have had a straight red in the first half. Our backs were really good today, apart from the last 10 minutes. Typically Antrim.  Shorty was dropped, came on the second half. Made a world of difference.  Players like shorty need to be starting against cork.

Shorty has a bad hamstring problem sorry to spoil your attack on the selectors
Also mc manus had good game so  less of the smear campaign because your boyfriends not playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:37:12 PM
McManus sent off. Seriously lads, all joking aside. When is Ryan going to take charge of this team? Neil is a brilliant hurler on his day. But he's been out of form for at least 6 months. He shouldn't be near that team. Never mind captain.

Your a bitter and twisted man!!
really? I'm not.  The facts speak for themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Sounds like they have a platform to build on for the real season ahead.
Were Cork full strength today?
Were we missing many? 
Was it a straight red ?
second yellow. But could have had a straight red in the first half. Our backs were really good today, apart from the last 10 minutes. Typically Antrim.  Shorty was dropped, came on the second half. Made a world of difference.  Players like shorty need to be starting against cork.

Shorty has a bad hamstring problem sorry to spoil your attack on the selectors
Also mc manus had good game so  less of the smear campaign because your boyfriends not playing
unreal. Speaks volumes about you.  ;)

I was unaware of shorty's injury. Sorry about that. Great hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: pullhard on March 16, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Sounds like they have a platform to build on for the real season ahead.
Were Cork full strength today?
Were we missing many? 
Was it a straight red ?
second yellow. But could have had a straight red in the first half. Our backs were really good today, apart from the last 10 minutes. Typically Antrim.  Shorty was dropped, came on the second half. Made a world of difference.  Players like shorty need to be starting against cork.

Shorty has a bad hamstring problem sorry to spoil your attack on the selectors
Also mc manus had good game so  less of the smear campaign because your boyfriends not playing
unreal. Speaks volumes about you.  ;)

I was unaware of shorty's injury. Sorry about that. Great hurler.
If you where more observant about shortys lack of pace and other pivotal areas of the game
Instead of going over old ground about a player who isn't even on the panel
You where right about us shooting to many wides in the first half but in fairness when cork playe down the field in the second half the wind had dropped
I thought eamon hasson had a average game, young johnty was hauled down In the square and got nothing where cork where getting frees far easier
Mc manus deserved to walk but the first yellow was unintentional and be apologised to the lad right away
To say he shouldn't be starting is laughable
If you want to post about a LG player why don't you mention mc faddden as he cleaned his man out today or how good the goalie was
I told you before if you bring up this watson dribble your getting both barrels
Three point loss to cork from a management to team your always slatting
That says it all about you 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
I only brought up what was said to me. Please point out anywhere where I've said any player should be selected to the Antrim panel.  ;) apart from shay Casey and Kevin mcquillan a couple of years ago I haven't.

You're falling into the trap of thinking I posted a thing when I've actually never posted it. Sorry.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
I only brought up what was said to me. Please point out anywhere where I've said any player should be selected to the Antrim panel.  ;) apart from shay Casey and Kevin mcquillan a couple of years ago I haven't.

You're falling into the trap of thinking I posted a thing when I've actually never posted it. Sorry.  :)

Your always bringing up the same subject, one that has been flogged to death on here but you don't stop there you start slatting one cushendall player and to suggest he had bad game today And shouldn't be on the panel is idiotic
Then you move on to kevin Ryan. The whole thing is getting very tedious to say the least
Your bang out of order
Antrim are having the usual struggle in 1 B but this is nothing new but there are signs of some promise
Young johnston looks the business, other plasters worth a mention are Campbell,  stogie, neil mc auley, Barry mc fall till he went of injured even big Carson starting to use his size a bit
There support play is improving every match also so it's not all doom and gloom( well not any more than normal anyway)
Keep your flogged to death inaccurate propaganda to yourself and then the subject might turn to the match itself 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
Ok. I'll do that. On the promise you keep your sexist illegal innuendo to yourself. Ok?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
Ok. I'll do that. On the promise you keep your sexist illegal innuendo to yourself. Ok?

Deal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
Ok. I'll do that. On the promise you keep your sexist illegal innuendo to yourself. Ok?

Deal
dead on hi.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:48:28 PM
So facts only. Not perspective. Can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 16, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2014, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2014, 05:11:45 PM
I only brought up what was said to me. Please point out anywhere where I've said any player should be selected to the Antrim panel.  ;) apart from shay Casey and Kevin mcquillan a couple of years ago I haven't.

You're falling into the trap of thinking I posted a thing when I've actually never posted it. Sorry.  :)

Your always bringing up the same subject, one that has been flogged to death on here but you don't stop there you start slatting one cushendall player and to suggest he had bad game today And shouldn't be on the panel is idiotic
Then you move on to kevin Ryan. The whole thing is getting very tedious to say the least
Your bang out of order
Antrim are having the usual struggle in 1 B but this is nothing new but there are signs of some promise
Young johnston looks the business, other plasters worth a mention are Campbell,  stogie, neil mc auley, Barry mc fall till he went of injured even big Carson starting to use his size a bit
There support play is improving every match also so it's not all doom and gloom( well not any more than normal anyway)
Keep your flogged to death inaccurate propaganda to yourself and then the subject might turn to the match itself

Good post, pretty positive all round today and light years better than the wexford match. |I still do not like Ryans tactic of bringing on a sub then taking him off, young McGreevy today, Matty Donnelly against wexford. McGreevy only got about 15 minutes, he may have been injured but i did not see anything. The support play is improving but still has a way to go, particularly players running beyond the full forward, There is no point using a target men unless runners run off him when he wins the ball. Young woody was excellent and held it all together at the back ably helped by one of the Johnstons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 16, 2014, 10:24:57 PM
You cannot suggest in seriousness that Neil should not start - he had a very strong, intelligent game today. I certainly left today's game in much better spirits than the Wexford game. We matched Cork for pace, committment and smart play until the last 10 mins.

12 wides in the first half was the damage. But plenty to build on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 18, 2014, 09:45:43 AM
I really dont understand why anyone pays attention to SIE's posts.   -   He seems to have a rather large chip on his shoulder and cant get it shifted, but sure whatever keeps him happy.

On the casement thing, it sounds totally ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Not sure if it was Milltown Row/Bonamargy or another but does anyone have the dates of the all county league fixtures for division 1 and 2 handy? Am guessing the fixtures aren't out yet but just checking dates.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 12, 2014, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 12, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: Glensman on February 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 11, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2014, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on February 11, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Anyone know when the league is due to start?

2nd week April? Usually either week before Easter or after, depending on when Easter is

North Antrim clubs have been given the first 9 dates for all county league. They start on 30th March, 2nd round the week after and third round on Easter weekend. North Antrim league starts next weekend and will run up to the start of ACHL and will resume again when ACHL takes a break for Leinster championship. North Antrim teams will be hurling every weekend to mid May, which is great

Do you have these ACHL dates as yet? If so could you stick up?

Is the North Antrim league being played on a Saturday/Sunday? Any fixtures/entrants for it?

Condolences for Loughgiel - a serious shame to have underpeformed on the day but as widely noted they don't owe anyone anything at all. Some team. Think you only know how crucial someone is when they are not there - Jonny Campbell's absence was felt...big time. The experience and leadership he has/shows is immense. Still must only be 30/31.

ACHL Dates:

30th March
5th April
19th or 21st April
10th May
14th May
4th June
11th June
18th June
22nd June

Cheers!

Instead of being lazy I should have just used the search function... Are these set in stone?

Anyone know??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Not sure if it was Milltown Row/Bonamargy or another but does anyone have the dates of the all county league fixtures for division 1 and 2 handy? Am guessing the fixtures aren't out yet but just checking dates.

Thanks

Is the first game the 30th of April? We play Ballycran at home, then away to Loughgiel and Ballycastle, home to the Johnnies then away to Portaferry and Dunloy home against Sarsfields away to Cushendall, and finally home to Ballygaget before the league splits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 18, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Not sure if it was Milltown Row/Bonamargy or another but does anyone have the dates of the all county league fixtures for division 1 and 2 handy? Am guessing the fixtures aren't out yet but just checking dates.

Thanks

Is the first game the 30th of April? We play Ballycran at home, then away to Loughgiel and Ballycastle, home to the Johnnies then away to Portaferry and Dunloy home against Sarsfields away to Cushendall, and finally home to Ballygaget before the league splits



Go through county website to get them, go to fixtures and it will say if no fixtures load use this link   http://www.antrimgaa.net/fixtures2/

or just use this link from here

it has dates for div 2 but not div 1.

I would say most fixtures would be on same dates as 2 and 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
Social club in casement has made front page in antrim post
Sorry state of affairs what a mess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 18, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
The first week of ACHL is now knocked back to 6th April because Antrim are now involved in the relegation playoff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
Social club in casement has made front page in antrim post
Sorry state of affairs what a mess

Have they quoted HS?? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
Social club in casement has made front page in antrim post
Sorry state of affairs what a mess

Have they quoted HS?? ;)

No I think he he used to many expletives for public print
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 18, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 18, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2014, 01:21:48 PM
Social club in casement has made front page in antrim post
Sorry state of affairs what a mess

Have they quoted HS?? ;)

No I think he he used to many expletives for public print

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGXeF8YlEgw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGXeF8YlEgw)

Yeah...some people just can't control themselves  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
One for the parody account - Antrim play Offaly this weekend in the league - and already they've been fixed to play each other again the following week in the relegation play-off!

Who was it dared to say the county season is too drawn out?

This is really laughable.

And the icing on the cake is that regardless of the results of both matches - the bottom team gets another play-off.

And while all this irrelevant parade is played out the vast majority of hurlers have their club games juggled around.

So it all countinues again and we go round in circles leaving everyone dizzy and going nowhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 20, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
One for the parody account - Antrim play Offaly this weekend in the league - and already they've been fixed to play each other again the following week in the relegation play-off!

Who was it dared to say the county season is too drawn out?

This is really laughable.

And the icing on the cake is that regardless of the results of both matches - the bottom team gets another play-off.

And while all this irrelevant parade is played out the vast majority of hurlers have their club games juggled around.

So it all continues again and we go round in circles leaving everyone dizzy and going nowhere.

Well who'd have thought Antrim and Offaly would have been bottom come the last round of fixtures.

More importantly Antrim will have a home venue come the relegation play off and then the losers will have to play the winners of Div2A, not sure why there's not direct promotion/relegation, but a nice safety net all the same.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!

There is too much protection for division 1 teams. So if you win division 2 you will maybe be promoted. Shouldn't be that way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!

There is too much protection for division 1 teams. So if you win division 2 you will maybe be promoted. Shouldn't be that way.

You'd almost think the big teams didn't want to be bothered with the lesser lights, wouldn't you?
;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!

There is too much protection for division 1 teams. So if you win division 2 you will maybe be promoted. Shouldn't be that way.

You'd almost think the big teams didn't want to be bothered with the lesser lights, wouldn't you?
;)

Ha, who'd have thunk it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
All true.
If you win a league you should go up - if you come last you go down.
Simples.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 21, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
All true.
If you win a league you should go up - if you come last you go down.
Simples.

If we are playing division two we would complain that its not fair, because we have the safety net we think its a great job................. Poor structure and really unfair on the Kerry's/Carlow's of this world
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 11:44:51 AM
Quote from: cfclg on March 21, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
All true.
If you win a league you should go up - if you come last you go down.
Simples.

If we are playing division two we would complain that its not fair, because we have the safety net we think its a great job................. Poor structure and really unfair on the Kerry's/Carlow's of this world

Carlow would give us a big test, their club team beat our best club team over the past 4 years so.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 11:47:34 AM
Carlow would maybe beat us.

It isn't fair on the division 2 teams at all. Absolute worst case 2nd place should get a ply-off but winning a division should mean promotion.

It's very skewed towards division 1 teams. That's the way the GAA works lets be honest though for once it is in our favour.

I don't know who's winning division 2 but the way we're playing at the minute, sunday aside, carlow would put it up to us and very possibly beat us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 11:47:34 AM
Carlow would maybe beat us.

It isn't fair on the division 2 teams at all. Absolute worst case 2nd place should get a ply-off but winning a division should mean promotion.

It's very skewed towards division 1 teams. That's the way the GAA works lets be honest though for once it is in our favour.

I don't know who's winning division 2 but the way we're playing at the minute, sunday aside, carlow would put it up to us and very possibly beat us.

Its between Carlow and Kerry by the looks of it, but I'm sure the MLR lads would be available to Carlow when it comes to the league final..

I don't think theres such a process between Div2A and Div2B if Down win the final which they're almost guaranteed to do at the minute.

Not sure of how Div3A to Div2B works, but it does seem a bit unfair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Look the Antrim leagues used this same process for years, if the bottom team in Div 1 played the WINNERS of div 2 and won then they stayed up ffs!! But hey the clubs voted for that lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Look the Antrim leagues used this same process for years, if the bottom team in Div 1 played the WINNERS of div 2 and won then they stayed up ffs!! But hey the clubs voted for that lol

When was that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Look the Antrim leagues used this same process for years, if the bottom team in Div 1 played the WINNERS of div 2 and won then they stayed up ffs!! But hey the clubs voted for that lol

When was that?

Anytime Ballycastle were in danger of going down ;). Johnny Im not sure when but was 10th 15 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 21, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!

There is too much protection for division 1 teams. So if you win division 2 you will maybe be promoted. Shouldn't be that way.

You'd almost think the big teams didn't want to be bothered with the lesser lights, wouldn't you?
;)

True Johnny - the exact same as the Antrim Division 1 Hurling league this year when it splits at the midway stage. At least the National League has the wit to disregard teams in other divisions. We disregard teams within our own division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 21, 2014, 02:03:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2014, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
I would say its a hopelessly drawn out safety net!

Getting relegated is becoming a hard job - although its the contempt for club fixtures while the whole process labours out that bothers me.

Some atmosphere in Offaly this weekend - no matter what happens we meet again next week and its more important than the this meaningless game?!

There is too much protection for division 1 teams. So if you win division 2 you will maybe be promoted. Shouldn't be that way.

You'd almost think the big teams didn't want to be bothered with the lesser lights, wouldn't you?
;)

True Johnny - the exact same as the Antrim Division 1 Hurling league this year when it splits at the midway stage. At least the National League has the wit to disregard teams in other divisions. We disregard teams within our own division.

Not the same thing ASI, at least the new Div1 league set up in Antrim you get one shot at the big guns, you may go down in flames, but at least you have an idea of what it takes to succeed.

The way the NHL Div1 is structured its as good as cut off from the rest of the hurling counties.
The Div1B losers will be going into a promotion/relegation game after having played Wexford/Limerick/Cork, whereas the Div2 promotion hopefuls will have played Derry/Kildare/London, hardly the same preparation is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2014, 08:32:16 PM
There has always been an obvious contradiction in how Antrim want the inter county leagues structured compared to our internal leagues.

At inter county we complain the big counties just want to play one another and it doesn't give us a chance to develop.

At club we perpetuate the desire for the north Antrim clubs to do the same.

I'm sure our glens friends will argue otherwise - but if your honest that's a fact.

I'm not saying I don't understand both standpoints - but they can't both be right - it's one or the other.

Either strong teams can dictate league structures or league structures assist development.

Pick one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Jaysus lads, it's hard to bite the lip when you hear what's going on in o'connor park the day before the match has even started.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Good thing I'm in Nowlan park!

Beautiful day and the cats starting to get going.

How's tullamore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 02:26:16 PM
Bit of a dirty slap there by the king.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 23, 2014, 02:53:34 PM
Antrim getting some shellacking in Offaly

Offaly 5-16 Antrim 1-3 HT

:-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 23, 2014, 02:55:57 PM
Did they bring the U-12s down ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 23, 2014, 02:55:57 PM
Did they bring the U-12s down ?
aye. U21s.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2014, 03:14:37 PM
 
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 23, 2014, 02:55:57 PM
Did they bring the U-12s down ?
aye. U21s.  :-X
McManus obviously picked the wrong team today.  ;)

Cue 5 pages of soul-searching about what is wrong with Antrim hurling...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 23, 2014, 03:23:43 PM
It's all a cunning plan to ambush Offaly next week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2014, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 02:26:16 PM
Bit of a dirty slap there by the king.

Didn't see it lost it tayto but I won't be criticising Henry from Matt the millers pub!

Waterford started brightly but once Kilkenny lifted the tempo it looked like Waterford knew they were no match. A lot of Kilkenny men have *NO* idea what their line up will be by championship time - maybe that's a good thing for those looking the 1-15 jersey? I don't know if they will beat Clare but it's another excellent season ahead. ((For spectators))

Where does the balance in hurling lie between speed and physicality now?

Another thing was the amount of kids at the game - huge interest and everything geared towards them. Didn't stay long enough but the fact they all gather at gate at o'loughlin Gaels side suggests the players came out to meet them etc.

I'm working in Waterford tomorro they might be in for a tough summer never mind Monday morning!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 23, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
We are always whinging in Antrim about not enough games against decent opposition, so we had a "free" one today, nothing at stake, so what do we do send the kids down.

Surely at this time of the year the players would want all the match practice they can get? Why not try and build on a decent performance from last week ? Have we a secret weapon for next week that they didnt want Offaly to see? As they say, only in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 23, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2014, 04:29:31 PM
We didn't know what time the match was at??

Seemingly not. Arrived at 1:50, Kevin Ryan said that they thought the game was down for 3pm. Not sure how he thought that, but he also added that he felt they "didn't get enough co-operation from the referee". I'm not sure what exactly that's code for, or what he wanted to be honest. The throw in was pushed out 15 minutes, any more and you set a bad precedent of allowing visitors to disrupt throw ins by deliberately arriving late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 23, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
Pathetic.
As you said, are these the people you want running a multi-million pound stadium?!

"Wha, Ulster Final you say? TODAY?!"

"Frankie... Tyrone are playing Down here later today - put some bog roll in the toilets and head down to the cash and carry for a few boxes of Tayto and Mars Bars. And make sure you get pound coins in the change for the ticket man. Hopefully there won't be many turning up..."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 23, 2014, 08:36:23 PM
Why have Antrim got a home match for the relegation play off ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 23, 2014, 08:36:23 PM
Why have Antrim got a home match for the relegation play off ?

Waterford also play Dublin in Waterford next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2014, 09:18:22 PM
I got a text message telling me I'm talking nonsense on that board.

Antrim had only 2 home games, Offaly had 3.

Not the first time eh?

I've had a few of those
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2014, 09:51:11 PM
Antrim should be trying to win every single game we can - we're not exactly coming down with victories that a few players can step out super confident. Winning games is never a bad thing - that should have been the aim today - and every day.

To send down young lads for a stuffing shows a lack of respect for them and no interest in the future since Ryan won't be about anyway.

Do we really believe not showing our hand gives on minuscule bit of advantage next week? I would rather have put in a strong performance, even a win, then made Offaly realise they hadda come to us next week.

The Antrim twitter account (Brendan please comment?) made a pathetic comment about supporters complaining - and would they go to ballycastle next week?
Again I'm reminded of the website guest book - contempt for supporters.
What about those who went to tullamore to be betrayed?
What about giving them a reason to support the team in ballycastle?
What about treating paying supporters with respect?

It's not county admin job to argue with our own! It's about fostering a sense of togetherness rather than being abrasive! But then some of the casement suits have no notion of that and want to fight & argue to preserve their notional power.
When was the last thing they did successfully and without controversy for Christ sake!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2014, 09:51:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 23, 2014, 09:35:07 PM
Your phone mustn't stop.
;D

Course
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 24, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
i was set to travel down to the game on sunday with my father when i found out we wernt sending a team down to the game, rather an U21 squad to fulfill the fixture.

the moment i heard that i cancelled any plans to go as i wasnt wasting my time and money if our county wasnt for bothering.

this was a competitive league game, regardless of it being a 'rubber duck' fixture, and we should of treated it with the same respect that other counties would have.

we want to be treated seriously by other counties at hurling yet we cant even do that ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 24, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
i was set to travel down to the game on sunday with my father when i found out we wernt sending a team down to the game, rather an U21 squad to fulfill the fixture.

the moment i heard that i cancelled any plans to go as i wasnt wasting my time and money if our county wasnt for bothering.

this was a competitive league game, regardless of it being a 'rubber duck' fixture, and we should of treated it with the same respect that other counties would have.

we want to be treated seriously by other counties at hurling yet we cant even do that ourselves.[\b]

Good point - we've just went to congress complaining about not enough competitive games against top counties. Then we do this.
I wonder how our opinions at congress will be treated in future.
An incompetent Laughing stock.
Is there any accountability for the management or administrators?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2014, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 24, 2014, 08:42:03 AM
i was set to travel down to the game on sunday with my father when i found out we wernt sending a team down to the game, rather an U21 squad to fulfill the fixture.

the moment i heard that i cancelled any plans to go as i wasnt wasting my time and money if our county wasnt for bothering.

this was a competitive league game, regardless of it being a 'rubber duck' fixture, and we should of treated it with the same respect that other counties would have.



we want to be treated seriously by other counties at hurling yet we cant even do that ourselves.[\b]

Good point - we've just went to congress complaining about not enough competitive games against top counties. Then we do this.
I wonder how our opinions at congress will be treated in future.
An incompetent Laughing stock.
Is there any accountability for the management or administrators?

If Kev and his selectors, Dick and Neal ((c) SIE) pull off an ambush on Sunday up in Ballycastle then they'll say their decision has been vindicated...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Agreed, they have shit in the nest here and have acutally given Offaly a bigger purpose for Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2014, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Agreed, they have shit in the nest here and have acutally given Offaly a bigger purpose for Sunday.

Very true also, Whelahan won't have to say a whole lot in the changing rooms to stirr the Offaly troops into action..

But sure there's still another safety net to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 24, 2014, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Agreed, they have shit in the nest here and have acutally given Offaly a bigger purpose for Sunday.

Very true also, Whelahan won't have to say a whole lot in the changing rooms to stirr the Offaly troops into action..

But sure there's still another safety net to go.

Beating Carlow? Hmmmmm sure their club team beat our best club team!! Be harder than you think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Well bring them on, BW has no respect for hurling up here so I hope he brings them full guns blazing and our boys can put on a proper show and send them back down the road with a defeat.

Officials getting the time wrong is not on, but it is up to KR what way he wants to use his panel. No point having a panel and not using it. Had Mickey Harte done the same he would have been praised for trying to develop players and the system coming behind the seniors.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Well bring them on, BW has no respect for hurling up here so I hope he brings them full guns blazing and our boys can put on a proper show and send them back down the road with a defeat.

Officials getting the time wrong is not on, but it is up to KR what way he wants to use his panel. No point having a panel and not using it. Had Mickey Harte done the same he would have been praised for trying to develop players and the system coming behind the seniors.

I don't know where you're getting that about BW, you obviously heard him say something that I never did.

And I've no problem with KR picking a weaker team full of fringe panelists, in fairness I couldn't imagine a better game to do so. But if you're going to do that, then name the shagging thing so supporters know what they're getting when they get in their cars and pay out €15 to walk in the gate. Offaly's team wasn't exactly full strength either, in fact it was anything but - but the supporters shelling out cash knew what they were getting, and the team that was picked put in a professional effort in the name of the jersey they were wearing.

Antrim's team for this game didn't do that, and despite your misconceptions of what Offaly people think of Antrim hurling, we know ye're well capable of giving us a hell of a game when ye feel like it, even without a lot of key starters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
Lads I don't know about what the Antrim view is, but I do know this - I've never heard of an intercounty team getting the throw in time wrong before, and I'd find in incredibly coincidental that it happened in the one game where the result was unimportant. I don't know what Antrim were trying to achieve, and I certainly wouldn't blame supporters and players for this - I'm sure they're as hurt and offended as we are - but on an official level, Antrim upset a lot of people down here with that effort yesterday. I don't know what they were trying to achieve with this cute hoor behaviour, but I do believe it was intentional.

Conceding a walkover would have been a more honourable thing to do by far. I won't speak for Brian Whelahan and the players, but if I was part of this Offaly panel, my blood would be absolutely boiling going up to Ballycastle next week. That was insulting, to be honest.

Well bring them on, BW has no respect for hurling up here so I hope he brings them full guns blazing and our boys can put on a proper show and send them back down the road with a defeat.

Officials getting the time wrong is not on, but it is up to KR what way he wants to use his panel. No point having a panel and not using it. Had Mickey Harte done the same he would have been praised for trying to develop players and the system coming behind the seniors.

I don't know where you're getting that about BW, you obviously heard him say something that I never did.

And I've no problem with KR picking a weaker team full of fringe panelists, in fairness I couldn't imagine a better game to do so. But if you're going to do that, then name the shagging thing so supporters know what they're getting when they get in their cars and pay out €15 to walk in the gate. Offaly's team wasn't exactly full strength either, in fact it was anything but - but the supporters shelling out cash knew what they were getting, and the team that was picked put in a professional effort in the name of the jersey they were wearing.

Antrim's team for this game didn't do that, and despite your misconceptions of what Offaly people think of Antrim hurling, we know ye're well capable of giving us a hell of a game when ye feel like it, even without a lot of key starters.

LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 24, 2014, 12:19:50 AM
I'm hearing that Offaly folk were going mad today. They paid €15 into the game. Antrim arrived late, with one senior player.

We are the embarrassment of Ireland.

Putting out a weakened team in such circumstances isn't an Antrim invention. From Antrim's perspective they could well have seen it as an opportunity to blood new players. The game was meaningless. Wouldn't liked to have ponied out to see it though but its not KR's job to give spectators value for money is it? Is everyone in Offaly really surprised? Really?

Arriving late is a strange one ...surely that wouldn't have been intentional?

Don't disagree though that Offaly will try and use it to their advantage, but can't help but feel its a faux motivational angle to take
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.

Would Offaly fans had much of a clue of the strength of the team even if it was named? We haven't got that may house hold names
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.

Would Offaly fans had much of a clue of the strength of the team even if it was named? We haven't got that may house hold names

That is true but if you had heard in advance that Antrim were sending down their u21's maybe some would have decided to invest the 15e elsewhere I suppose.

Actually all that aside, the hurling at the weekend was fantastic again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
Jesus the moaning in here is unreal
The throw in time mix up is unforgivable but what's wrong with giving lads who haven't had a game yet a run out
This was always going to be a shadow boxing exercise anyway
If we ran cork to 3 points and Wexford to 1 in ballycastle here then we can beat Offlay

I think some posters on here are hoping they get beat just for a bit of '' told you so''

These current crop of players and management aren't as embarrassing as our support by the look of things

JC dick isn't a selector this year. I think he is concentrating on dunloy

If we beat Offaly I wouldn't blame one of OUR county players coming on here and say up yours
If we get beat by Carlow or whoever in a relegation/ promotion  match then the detractors on here will be saying words to that effect anyway
I have never met kevin Ryan but he was in dunloy last week taking a session with our p/7 players from the school. I mention this to illustrate how much an interest he's showing in all things antrim
I hope he isn't coming on here because it's as embarrassing as our county board, the social club fiasco or turning up late for a meaningless match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 10:12:59 AM
Again, and for the last time, I agree wholeheartedly that this was a good game to blood new players. Nobody in Offaly is offended by that, and nobody expected otherwise. However by not showing up on time, by not getting a warm up, and by picking a handful of players who were clearly miles off the pace and never would be considered in normal circumstances, it rendered the game worthless and so nothing could be taken from it.

How about bringing 19 players in total, does that not indicate that the management didn't care about the integrity of the match? You wouldn't treat a challenge game like that. Or maybe ye do, in which case there is yet another reason why Leinster and Munster teams don't play as many challenge matches against ye as I would have said that they should.

Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.

Would Offaly fans had much of a clue of the strength of the team even if it was named? We haven't got that may house hold names

Ah here. Who's being disrespectful now? I'm not saying that I'd know the best Antrim XV at any given time, but if you read a teamsheet and there's over half the team that are unknowns, then you know that you're dealing with a shadow team. Most Offaly supporters, even casuals, would know that when you leave out guys like McAuley, McManus, Carson (when fit!) and McKinley, that's what's happening.

When the Belfast Tele journalist sitting beside you doesn't know of one of the players, then you really know the barrel has been scraped here.


Again I say I can't speak for the players, but there's nothing "faux" about how disgusted I was with Antrim's attitude yesterday.

Do Antrim people genuinely believe that if this was the first round of the league, that they would have got the time wrong? Come off it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
Jesus the moaning in here is unreal
The throw in time mix up is unforgivable but what's wrong with giving lads who haven't had a game yet a run out
This was always going to be a shadow boxing exercise anyway
If we ran cork to 3 points and Wexford to 1 in ballycastle here then we can beat Offlay

I think some posters on here are hoping they get beat just for a bit of '' told you so''

These current crop of players and management aren't as embarrassing as our support by the look of things

JC dick isn't a selector this year. I think he is concentrating on dunloy

If we beat Offaly I wouldn't blame one of OUR county players coming on here and say up yours
If we get beat by Carlow or whoever in a relegation/ promotion  match then the detractors on here will be saying words to that effect anyway
I have never met kevin Ryan but he was in dunloy last week taking a session with our p/7 players from the school. I mention this to illustrate how much an interest he's showing in all things antrim
I hope he isn't coming on here because it's as embarrassing as our county board, the social club fiasco or turning up late for a meaningless match

Few things, at that level, Div1b teams should be named the night before, the team should arrive on time (not only for the supporters who have made their way down and paid in but for the players themselves, be they under21's or senior, nothing worse getting off the bus and changed hurriedly to get on the pitch) Team should also play with a bit of pride, the scoreline at half time was ridiculous.

Whether we beat Offlay this Sunday or not means nothing, we are a lower tier team and the best preparation for us is big games. How else are you meant to improve, coming into the game on the back of a competitive game would do us no harm. We fight every year to get to play the bigger teams and when we do we send down a under 21 team.

Anyways I'll be up in Ballycastle this week hopefully we can avoid a banana skin v Carlow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2014, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 10:12:59 AM
Again, and for the last time, I agree wholeheartedly that this was a good game to blood new players. Nobody in Offaly is offended by that, and nobody expected otherwise. However by not showing up on time, by not getting a warm up, and by picking a handful of players who were clearly miles off the pace and never would be considered in normal circumstances, it rendered the game worthless and so nothing could be taken from it.

How about bringing 19 players in total, does that not indicate that the management didn't care about the integrity of the match? You wouldn't treat a challenge game like that. Or maybe ye do, in which case there is yet another reason why Leinster and Munster teams don't play as many challenge matches against ye as I would have said that they should.

Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.

Would Offaly fans had much of a clue of the strength of the team even if it was named? We haven't got that may house hold names

Ah here. Who's being disrespectful now? I'm not saying that I'd know the best Antrim XV at any given time, but if you read a teamsheet and there's over half the team that are unknowns, then you know that you're dealing with a shadow team. Most Offaly supporters, even casuals, would know that when you leave out guys like McAuley, McManus, Carson (when fit!) and McKinley, that's what's happening.

When the Belfast Tele journalist sitting beside you doesn't know of one of the players, then you really know the barrel has been scraped here.


Again I say I can't speak for the players, but there's nothing "faux" about how disgusted I was with Antrim's attitude yesterday.

Do Antrim people genuinely believe that if this was the first round of the league, that they would have got the time wrong? Come off it.

LS, that wouldn't be uncommon for the Belfast telegraph to be fair. In all honesty I'm shocked they sent someone down to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:28:39 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 10:12:59 AM
Again, and for the last time, I agree wholeheartedly that this was a good game to blood new players. Nobody in Offaly is offended by that, and nobody expected otherwise. However by not showing up on time, by not getting a warm up, and by picking a handful of players who were clearly miles off the pace and never would be considered in normal circumstances, it rendered the game worthless and so nothing could be taken from it.

How about bringing 19 players in total, does that not indicate that the management didn't care about the integrity of the match? You wouldn't treat a challenge game like that. Or maybe ye do, in which case there is yet another reason why Leinster and Munster teams don't play as many challenge matches against ye as I would have said that they should.

Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
LS agree with you there, but here's the thing it adds extra spice to it and we all like that.

Granted the team should have been named in advance for the supporters paying in to make an informed choice.

Would Offaly fans had much of a clue of the strength of the team even if it was named? We haven't got that may house hold names

Ah here. Who's being disrespectful now? I'm not saying that I'd know the best Antrim XV at any given time, but if you read a teamsheet and there's over half the team that are unknowns, then you know that you're dealing with a shadow team. Most Offaly supporters, even casuals, would know that when you leave out guys like McAuley, McManus, Carson (when fit!) and McKinley, that's what's happening.

When the Belfast Tele journalist sitting beside you doesn't know of one of the players, then you really know the barrel has been scraped here.


Again I say I can't speak for the players, but there's nothing "faux" about how disgusted I was with Antrim's attitude yesterday.

Do Antrim people genuinely believe that if this was the first round of the league, that they would have got the time wrong? Come off it.

I would be surprised If a journalist from the the Belfast telegraph knew any of our first team players TBH never mind our fringe players

Maybe the throw In time mix was intentional
Seems to have got you pretty rattled, maybe offaly will come up now so rattled they won't be focused
If BW didn't get upset at what loughnane said a few weeks ago I don't think this will impact their preparations for next Sunday

BW said in the press prior to yesterday's match that it was meaningless and he is giving Offlay fringe players a run and would fully expect a Antrim to do the same
He even stated that he would prefer if the two fixtures could be combined to render the first game meaningful
I fully expect yesterday's events to have no impact on how he prepares for Sunday
Unless you have some impact with him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2014, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
Jesus the moaning in here is unreal
The throw in time mix up is unforgivable but what's wrong with giving lads who haven't had a game yet a run out
This was always going to be a shadow boxing exercise anyway
If we ran cork to 3 points and Wexford to 1 in ballycastle here then we can beat Offlay

I think some posters on here are hoping they get beat just for a bit of '' told you so''

These current crop of players and management aren't as embarrassing as our support by the look of things

JC dick isn't a selector this year. I think he is concentrating on dunloy

If we beat Offaly I wouldn't blame one of OUR county players coming on here and say up yours
If we get beat by Carlow or whoever in a relegation/ promotion  match then the detractors on here will be saying words to that effect anyway
I have never met kevin Ryan but he was in dunloy last week taking a session with our p/7 players from the school. I mention this to illustrate how much an interest he's showing in all things antrim
I hope he isn't coming on here because it's as embarrassing as our county board, the social club fiasco or turning up late for a meaningless match

Few things, at that level, Div1b teams should be named the night before, the team should arrive on time (not only for the supporters who have made their way down and paid in but for the players themselves, be they under21's or senior, nothing worse getting off the bus and changed hurriedly to get on the pitch) Team should also play with a bit of pride, the scoreline at half time was ridiculous.

Whether we beat Offlay this Sunday or not means nothing, we are a lower tier team and the best preparation for us is big games. How else are you meant to improve, coming into the game on the back of a competitive game would do us no harm. We fight every year to get to play the bigger teams and when we do we send down a under 21 team.

Anyways I'll be up in Ballycastle this week hopefully we can avoid a banana skin v Carlow

The worry for me would be that the way we are going at the minute the scoreline may not be that disimilar this sunday!!

I wouldn't read anything into Belfast Tele journalists. There's only a select few journalists know particularly much about hurling up here.

Sounds like a farce. Dunno what we were at but don't like it particularly much. Nothing will have been achieved except annoying people and making yourself look stupid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 24, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Can anybody name the team from yesterday??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 24, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Can anybody name the team from yesterday??

S McToal
T O'Ciaran
P Burke
M Bradley
R McCambridge
T McCann
J McGreevy
M Donnelly
D McKernan
C McCann
S McAfee
S Beatty
C Clarke
PJ O'Connell
N Elliott

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 24, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
Can anybody name the team from yesterday??
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Antrim - S McToal; T O'Ciaran, P Burke, M Bradley (0-2); R McCambridge, T McCann, J McGreevy; M Donnelly, D McKernan; C McCann, S McAfee (0-1), S Beatty; C Clarke (0-5f), PJ O'Connell (3-0), N Elliot (1-1). Subs: N McKenna for R McCambridge, M Connolly for T O'Ciaran, D McGuinness for S Beatty, F Donnelly for D McKernan.

14 of these players have already played NHL this year so it's a whinge feast over nothing and should make lone shark more confident about next Sunday to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
14 of these players have already played NHL this year so it's a whinge feast over nothing and should make lone shark more confident about next Sunday to

Okay, after this I'm out, because there is some serious misrepresentation going on here.

Nobody cares about the team that Antrim chose to select - that is their prerogative. That was not remotely the issue - the issue was the manner in which Antrim approached the game, bringing just 19 players and showing up late. That fed through to the team, who made some errors that you wouldn't expect from junior hurlers. Everyone here in Offaly knows enough about Antrim hurling to know that a middling club side would make a better fist of things than that, and that this will bear no resemblance to the Antrim team, in personnel or critically in attitude, that we'll meet next week.

I've no idea how the players or BW will feel, I just know how it made me feel as a supporter who went into the game. Yes if I was on the panel I would be rattled and yes, quite possibly that was what Antrim were hoping for when they decided to roll up ten minutes before the throw in. As I've said before, I don't believe for a minute that they genuinely got the time of the game wrong, and it was obviously done for some reason.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
14 of these players have already played NHL this year so it's a whinge feast over nothing and should make lone shark more confident about next Sunday to

Okay, after this I'm out, because there is some serious misrepresentation going on here.

Nobody cares about the team that Antrim chose to select - that is their prerogative. That was not remotely the issue - the issue was the manner in which Antrim approached the game, bringing just 19 players and showing up late. That fed through to the team, who made some errors that you wouldn't expect from junior hurlers. Everyone here in Offaly knows enough about Antrim hurling to know that a middling club side would make a better fist of things than that, and that this will bear no resemblance to the Antrim team, in personnel or critically in attitude, that we'll meet next week.

I've no idea how the players or BW will feel, I just know how it made me feel as a supporter who went into the game. Yes if I was on the panel I would be rattled and yes, quite possibly that was what Antrim were hoping for when they decided to roll up ten minutes before the throw in. As I've said before, I don't believe for a minute that they genuinely got the time of the game wrong, and it was obviously done for some reason.

You see I think on this one you're going out of your way to get offended.  Who in their right mind would do such a thing an know that it would backfire on them because of accusations of incompetence? There's more likelihood of that being the case and I think you know it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Zulu on March 24, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
I agree with you LS and I'm surprised by the attitude of some Antrim posters here. It seems some view any complaint, no matter how reasonable, as whinging. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday and anyone involved or interested in Antrim hurling should be at least saddened if not embarrassed by yesterdays whole performance. I see no benefit to Antrim hurling from yesterday and I'm sure Croke Park will have taken note the next time Antrim complain, sorry whinge, about lack of decent hurling games for their teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 24, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
I agree with you LS and I'm surprised by the attitude of some Antrim posters here. It seems some view any complaint, no matter how reasonable, as whinging. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday and anyone involved or interested in Antrim hurling should be at least saddened if not embarrassed by yesterdays whole performance. I see no benefit to Antrim hurling from yesterday and I'm sure Croke Park will have taken note the next time Antrim complain, sorry whinge, about lack of decent hurling games for their teams.

Zulu at the minute we are not in a good place with the hurling unfortunately. Offaly could feasibly do to us this weekend what they did yesterday.

Compare those players yesterday to the rest of our league teams. Yes we are 5 or 6 down but most are u21s and this was the game to give them.

If we messed around with times then that is disrespectful and shouldn't have happened.

However every one of those players is on the panel from what I know. If Offaly feel disrespected because they deemed some of our skills to be rubbish then maybe a) we should be worried as these are our squad players and b) maybe they are the ones disrepecting us!!

We're in division 1b and leinster championship so we have no right to be complaining about a lack of decent hurling games. We also compete in the leinster minors (league anyway) so no leg to stand on there. Some people, who seem to be in officaldom in this county, like to complain about things which a lot of us don't agree with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 12:52:19 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 24, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
I agree with you LS and I'm surprised by the attitude of some Antrim posters here. It seems some view any complaint, no matter how reasonable, as whinging. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday and anyone involved or interested in Antrim hurling should be at least saddened if not embarrassed by yesterdays whole performance. I see no benefit to Antrim hurling from yesterday and I'm sure Croke Park will have taken note the next time Antrim complain, sorry whinge, about lack of decent hurling games for their teams.

He's every right to be annoyed and complain about it, but he's joining the dots to imply that Antrim we're TOTALLY disrespectful yesterday

I'm commenting on LS's belief that he believes that the throw in time mix up was intentional. If it was done intentionally then that's disgraceful unsporting behaviour. The betting though would suggest incompetence before shoot yourself in the foot cutehoorism. 

We can be saddened by the thing but not for the same reasons. Very unprofessional
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 24, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 24, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
I agree with you LS and I'm surprised by the attitude of some Antrim posters here. It seems some view any complaint, no matter how reasonable, as whinging. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday and anyone involved or interested in Antrim hurling should be at least saddened if not embarrassed by yesterdays whole performance. I see no benefit to Antrim hurling from yesterday and I'm sure Croke Park will have taken note the next time Antrim complain, sorry whinge, about lack of decent hurling games for their teams.

Zulu at the minute we are not in a good place with the hurling unfortunately. Offaly could feasibly do to us this weekend what they did yesterday.

Compare those players yesterday to the rest of our league teams. Yes we are 5 or 6 down but most are u21s and this was the game to give them.

If we messed around with times then that is disrespectful and shouldn't have happened.

However every one of those players is on the panel from what I know. If Offaly feel disrespected because they deemed some of our skills to be rubbish then maybe a) we should be worried as these are our squad players and b) maybe they are the ones disrepecting us!!

We're in division 1b and leinster championship so we have no right to be complaining about a lack of decent hurling games. We also compete in the leinster minors (league anyway) so no leg to stand on there. Some people, who seem to be in officaldom in this county, like to complain about things which a lot of us don't agree with.

Could not agree  more
Six if those players where in the field against cork and the rest of them where on the panel
So lone shark comes on to an Antrim discussion forum and likens them to junior club hurlers and he is the one offended(let's all have wipp round and give him his 13 euros back)
Then Antrim being Antrim got the throw in time wrong and this is some unprovoked assault on the psychological warfront
A more feasible explanation is all our away Sunday games this year where at 3 o clock ( I could be wrong but last game was three v Laois and  nobody had the brains to check the time for this one

Looks like we are in for a real tanking next week, not because half of our panel is junior club level but because we weren't punctual yesterday- laughable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 24, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on March 24, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
I agree with you LS and I'm surprised by the attitude of some Antrim posters here. It seems some view any complaint, no matter how reasonable, as whinging. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday and anyone involved or interested in Antrim hurling should be at least saddened if not embarrassed by yesterdays whole performance. I see no benefit to Antrim hurling from yesterday and I'm sure Croke Park will have taken note the next time Antrim complain, sorry whinge, about lack of decent hurling games for their teams.

Zulu at the minute we are not in a good place with the hurling unfortunately. Offaly could feasibly do to us this weekend what they did yesterday.

Compare those players yesterday to the rest of our league teams. Yes we are 5 or 6 down but most are u21s and this was the game to give them.

If we messed around with times then that is disrespectful and shouldn't have happened.

However every one of those players is on the panel from what I know. If Offaly feel disrespected because they deemed some of our skills to be rubbish then maybe a) we should be worried as these are our squad players and b) maybe they are the ones disrepecting us!!

We're in division 1b and leinster championship so we have no right to be complaining about a lack of decent hurling games. We also compete in the leinster minors (league anyway) so no leg to stand on there. Some people, who seem to be in officaldom in this county, like to complain about things which a lot of us don't agree with.

Could not agree  more
Six if those players where in the field against cork and the rest of them where on the panel
So lone shark comes on to an Antrim discussion forum and likens them to junior club hurlers and he is the one offended(let's all have wipp round and give him his 13 euros back)
Then Antrim being Antrim got the throw in time wrong and this is some unprovoked assault on the psychological warfront
A more feasible explanation is all our away Sunday games this year where at 3 o clock ( I could be wrong but last game was three v Laois and  nobody had the brains to check the time for this one

Looks like we are in for a real tanking next week, not because half of our panel is junior club level but because we weren't punctual yesterday- laughable

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
I forgot to mention
Conor mc cann and Thomas mc cann are indeed junior club hurlers
In fact there from creggan the junior all Ireland campions
Pj o Connell you might remember him from yesterday he scored 3 goals plays intermediate so you owe him an apology at least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
Zulu and LS if youse don't like whinging, moaning and in-fighting you have definitely stumbled into the wrong thread  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 24, 2014, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Jaysus lads, it's hard to bite the lip when you hear what's going on in o'connor park the day before the match has even started.  :-X
What was this?

Yes the late arrival not getting the throw-in time right is a storm in a tea cup.
After all - what another wee fine with our money when they're running up a bigger solicitors bill from casement.
Again - accountability?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2014, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.
Have you never seen Cushendall people before?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2014, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.
Have you never seen Cushendall people before?!

Now now!! You'll get a backlash for that!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

I don't think anyone believes the timing was an honest mistake.

It was either deliberate to piss Offaly off - or we had some problems which kept us late.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

But then - it's Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

I don't think anyone believes the timing was an honest mistake.

It was either deliberate to piss Offaly off - or we had some problems which kept us late.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

But then - it's Antrim.

Does anyone genuinely and I mean genuinely think that KR or anyone associated with the team would be involved in anything other than this being a genuine mistake.

This is not the type of thing any player or manager would ever countenance, it has been a administrative error along the way somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Stupidity or incompetence? I'm going for incompetence. So until I hear otherwise, I believe it was an honest mistake

LS needs to outline what Antrim had to gain psychologically from doing it intentionally. Just doesn't make sense to even consider doing such a thing is going to give you an edge the next run out. I'd say all Antrim followers (including the Antrim players and coaching staff) are pretty embarrassed and apologetic about it, so its only for LS to know why an apology just won't do.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

If the late arrival was intentional I can't see the logic to this. You history of punctuality doesn't apply here. Any other poster on here will tell about how dysfunctional things are on the county front
I can't figure what advantage KR could take from being late
I am embarrassed by it but I can't see how a premeditated late arrival would benefit antrim for next Sunday
As for our first touch yesterday being below division 1 b standards and more like junior hurling I can't see this being pre meditated either. You could swear listening to your account the lads where deliberately dropping balls and then looking over to the sideline and Ryan giving them the thumbs up
Welcome to antrim hurling. We could go out line we did against cork and hold to 3 points or get tanked By Limerick. Which antrim team shows up next Sunday is anybody's guess
We could beat you by 2 points or get absolutely tanked
I think yesterday's result was more of a reflection of our bench compared to offalys
Maybe no need for conspiracy theories as there reasoning doesn't stack up 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

I don't think anyone believes the timing was an honest mistake.

It was either deliberate to piss Offaly off - or we had some problems which kept us late.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

But then - it's Antrim.

Does anyone genuinely and I mean genuinely that KR or anyone associated with the team would be involved in anything other than this being a genuine mistake.

This is not the type of thing any player or manager would ever countenance, it has been a administrative error along the way somewhere.

Who knows? KR will know that's for sure and he hasn't given the reasons for it. I knew on Wed the game was at 2 as where the other games.

WE ARE PLAYING AT 2.00PM THIS SUNDAY, BALLYCASTLE

And we are 5/2 with Paddy Power ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

I don't think anyone believes the timing was an honest mistake.

It was either deliberate to piss Offaly off - or we had some problems which kept us late.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

But then - it's Antrim.

Does anyone genuinely and I mean genuinely that KR or anyone associated with the team would be involved in anything other than this being a genuine mistake.

This is not the type of thing any player or manager would ever countenance, it has been a administrative error along the way somewhere.

Who knows? KR will know that's for sure and he hasn't given the reasons for it. I knew on Wed the game was at 2 as where the other games.

WE ARE PLAYING AT 3.00PM THIS SUNDAY, BALLYCASTLE

And we are 5/2 with Paddy Power ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2014, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
There's no talking to some of the lads on here. I never said that half the panel is junior club level, I'm saying they played like that yesterday - and unless there has been a ridiculous outbreak of bubonic plague in the Glens that escaped the national news, I know and any half-decent hurling supporter knows that Antrim could field 100 players capable of much better than we saw yesterday. There were Antrim players yesterday dropping thirty yard passes that were hit straight into their hand, there were players unable to control or lift a barely moving sliothar, it was terrible, and nobody is codded into thinking that's where Antrim really are.


I know there are posters on here who don't have a high opinion of the Antrim County Board and as an outsider, I'm not going to say ye're wrong - yet ye are stretching credibility beyond belief to suggest that they could have got the throw in time wrong. I've played football in Offaly, Dublin, Galway, London, Offaly again and now Roscommon - and due to my complete lack of any kind of ability, it's been Junior B and low division league stuff all the way. Yet in the hundreds of two bit games that I've played, not once have I ever been on a team that collectively, got the throw in time wrong. I've never heard of it happening either.

It's impossible to believe that in a National Hurling league division 1 fixture, not one player on the panel during the week checked a national news website or read a preview, or looked at the odds, and realised that the throw in time was 2pm instead of 3pm and so flagged it up to the management. The game hadn't been moved, and it was the same time as every other NHL game taking place the same day - there is just no excuse for that. 

I do not believe for a minute that it was an honest mistake, and while I'm not sure what the reasoning behind it was, I'm still damn sure there is a reason. When set alongside the lackadaisical manner in which the team hurled, and the fact that the management didn't even bring twenty players to the game, then there is an overall trend of playacting here. I don't think it was sporting, and I am doubly upset that whatever it set out to achieve, it probably succeeded.

If Offaly win next Sunday's game by a 15 point margin or more, then I'll happily come along here and admit I was wrong and that Antrim are actually that poor this year. However there's a reason that this will be a one or two point handicap with the bookies, and there's a reason that I'm 100% certain that Antrim will have the talent and mentality to absolutely wire into us next week. It's because Antrim are so much better than this and we all know it.

I don't think anyone believes the timing was an honest mistake.

It was either deliberate to piss Offaly off - or we had some problems which kept us late.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

But then - it's Antrim.

Does anyone genuinely and I mean genuinely that KR or anyone associated with the team would be involved in anything other than this being a genuine mistake.

This is not the type of thing any player or manager would ever countenance, it has been a administrative error along the way somewhere.

Who knows? KR will know that's for sure and he hasn't given the reasons for it. I knew on Wed the game was at 2 as where the other games.

WE ARE PLAYING AT 1.00 in the morningTHIS SUNDAY, BALLYGOBACKWARDS

And we are 5/2 with Paddy Power ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Stupidity or incompetence? I'm going for incompetence. So until I hear otherwise, I believe it was an honest mistake

LS needs to outline what Antrim had to gain psychologically from doing it intentionally. Just doesn't make sense to even consider doing such a thing is going to give you an edge the next run out. I'd say all Antrim followers (including the Antrim players and coaching staff) are pretty embarrassed and apologetic about it, so its only for LS to know why an apology just won't do.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

Of course I can't outline what KR was thinking when they planned this, I can only speculate. Perhaps he was thinking that Offaly would be complacent and relaxed if they traveled to Ballycastle on the back of a big win. Perhaps he thought that the pedestrian pace of the game in the last twenty minutes would carry over into next week and Offaly would start slow in Ballycastle. Perhaps he did want to annoy Offaly and get their backs up, so they'll get drawn into a fight and lose concentration. Rest assured if I had the ability to read his thoughts I'd happily share, but that's a bit beyond me sadly. I just know it's easier to believe any of the three theories above than it is to believe that a county team got a throw in time wrong for a league match.

I do know this - the majority of Antrim supporters probably are apologetic and and embarrassed, yet they've nothing to be embarrassed or apologetic about. They were all there on time funnily enough - for God's sake they traveled up to 200 miles to go see the game - they owe nobody anything. It was the management and the organisers who should apologise, yet KR certainly didn't do that - instead he railed afterwards about how they "didn't get enough co-operation from the referee". What that's supposed to mean God only knows.

If there was an apology from any of the entities or individuals who have something to apologise for, I'd find it a lot easier to believe that the error was genuine.

And how Antrim can be 5/2 when we consider their form from their last two games at Ballycastle is something I can't fathom. That suggests a three point handicap and if I was from anywhere other than Offaly, Antrim plus three would be a cracking bet, worthy of a serious punt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Stupidity or incompetence? I'm going for incompetence. So until I hear otherwise, I believe it was an honest mistake

LS needs to outline what Antrim had to gain psychologically from doing it intentionally. Just doesn't make sense to even consider doing such a thing is going to give you an edge the next run out. I'd say all Antrim followers (including the Antrim players and coaching staff) are pretty embarrassed and apologetic about it, so its only for LS to know why an apology just won't do.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

Of course I can't outline what KR was thinking when they planned this, I can only speculate. Perhaps he was thinking that Offaly would be complacent and relaxed if they traveled to Ballycastle on the back of a big win. Perhaps he thought that the pedestrian pace of the game in the last twenty minutes would carry over into next week and Offaly would start slow in Ballycastle. Perhaps he did want to annoy Offaly and get their backs up, so they'll get drawn into a fight and lose concentration. Rest assured if I had the ability to read his thoughts I'd happily share, but that's a bit beyond me sadly. I just know it's easier to believe any of the three theories above than it is to believe that a county team got a throw in time wrong for a league match.

I do know this - the majority of Antrim supporters probably are apologetic and and embarrassed, yet they've nothing to be embarrassed or apologetic about. They were all there on time funnily enough - for God's sake they traveled up to 200 miles to go see the game - they owe nobody anything. It was the management and the organisers who should apologise, yet KR certainly didn't do that - instead he railed afterwards about how they "didn't get enough co-operation from the referee". What that's supposed to mean God only knows.

If there was an apology from any of the entities or individuals who have something to apologise for, I'd find it a lot easier to believe that the error was genuine.

And how Antrim can be 5/2 when we consider their form from their last two games at Ballycastle is something I can't fathom. That suggests a three point handicap and if I was from anywhere other than Offaly, Antrim plus three would be a cracking bet, worthy of a serious punt.

On Sunday LS I'll buy you a pint, that's if Ballycastle are opening the pavilion with great views to watch the match ;) If not tea and  soup would be the most you'll get. Bring your own tea and soup BTW!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Stupidity or incompetence? I'm going for incompetence. So until I hear otherwise, I believe it was an honest mistake

LS needs to outline what Antrim had to gain psychologically from doing it intentionally. Just doesn't make sense to even consider doing such a thing is going to give you an edge the next run out. I'd say all Antrim followers (including the Antrim players and coaching staff) are pretty embarrassed and apologetic about it, so its only for LS to know why an apology just won't do.

Either way it's a f**king disgrace and embarrassing.

Of course I can't outline what KR was thinking when they planned this, I can only speculate. Perhaps he was thinking that Offaly would be complacent and relaxed if they traveled to Ballycastle on the back of a big win. Perhaps he thought that the pedestrian pace of the game in the last twenty minutes would carry over into next week and Offaly would start slow in Ballycastle. Perhaps he did want to annoy Offaly and get their backs up, so they'll get drawn into a fight and lose concentration. Rest assured if I had the ability to read his thoughts I'd happily share, but that's a bit beyond me sadly. I just know it's easier to believe any of the three theories above than it is to believe that a county team got a throw in time wrong for a league match.

I do know this - the majority of Antrim supporters probably are apologetic and and embarrassed, yet they've nothing to be embarrassed or apologetic about. They were all there on time funnily enough - for God's sake they traveled up to 200 miles to go see the game - they owe nobody anything. It was the management and the organisers who should apologise, yet KR certainly didn't do that - instead he railed afterwards about how they "didn't get enough co-operation from the referee". What that's supposed to mean God only knows.

If there was an apology from any of the entities or individuals who have something to apologise for, I'd find it a lot easier to believe that the error was genuine.

And how Antrim can be 5/2 when we consider their form from their last two games at Ballycastle is something I can't fathom. That suggests a three point handicap and if I was from anywhere other than Offaly, Antrim plus three would be a cracking bet, worthy of a serious punt.

Your obviously very worried about Sunday and this has you looking for things that simply are not there
Let me put your mind at ease, you are raging hot favourites for this weekend
If KR where deploying some sort of head frying tactics yesterday it seems to have taken the reverse effect so no harm done there
Even if by some miracle Antrim break of those junior standard shackles and come out on top your still not going down as your play div2 winners
But as your a proud Offaly man imm sure your don't want lose to a bunch of Cretans who can't even get the throw in time right and imm sure your players will be of the same mindset so job done your as good as through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2014, 03:55:12 PM
Remember the clocks go forward on Sat / Sunday  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2014, 03:55:12 PM
Remember the clocks go forward on Sat / Sunday  :o

Oh FFS!! bed early Sat night

And it's Mother's day !!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 05:20:04 PM
I cannot countence that Antrim GAA and the senior hurlers - all 30 or so of these people - all missed;
- official croke park notification
- national newspapers
- local newspapers
- countless websites
- twitter
- GAA app
Are we really expected to believe all of these people live in a bubble sheltered by all of this information and blindly assumed a 3pm throw in time without ever thinking to check?!

Wise up!

They must have all been "on the run" with the DUP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2014, 06:31:04 PM
 :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 07:28:10 PM

The Antrim twitter account (Brendan please comment?) made a pathetic comment about supporters complaining - and would they go to ballycastle next week?
Again I'm reminded of the website guest book - contempt for supporters.
What about those who went to tullamore to be betrayed?
What about giving them a reason to support the team in ballycastle?
What about treating paying supporters with respect?

It's not county admin job to argue with our own!
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Again with comments about the county website guest book. I would be grateful if you could go on and cut & paste the last contemptuous comment towards a poster on the site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 07:28:10 PM

The Antrim twitter account (Brendan please comment?) made a pathetic comment about supporters complaining - and would they go to ballycastle next week?
Again I'm reminded of the website guest book - contempt for supporters.
What about those who went to tullamore to be betrayed?
What about giving them a reason to support the team in ballycastle?
What about treating paying supporters with respect?

It's not county admin job to argue with our own!

Again with comments about the county website guest book. I would be grateful if you could go on and cut & paste the last contemptuous comment towards a poster on the site.
[/quote]Regime change? You missed a few questions from the OP by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 08:11:47 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 07:28:10 PM

The Antrim twitter account (Brendan please comment?) made a pathetic comment about supporters complaining - and would they go to ballycastle next week?
Again I'm reminded of the website guest book - contempt for supporters.
What about those who went to tullamore to be betrayed?
What about giving them a reason to support the team in ballycastle?
What about treating paying supporters with respect?

It's not county admin job to argue with our own!


Again with comments about the county website guest book. I would be grateful if you could go on and cut & paste the last contemptuous comment towards a poster on the site.
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If I get time I will try delve into it but to be honest I haven't been on it in ages - because of such comments! I didn't stop using it because I imagined them!
Do you think other posters here also imagined them?!
Fair enough if this has now ceased - I'm happy to see that!

Altho I note your post blatantly ignores the tweet I referred to which I still see as pointless abrasiveness towards other Antrim Gaels. That's fine for the bar or private conversation but not official
County twitter especially after the debacle in tullamore. It puts a poor reflection on both our support and county admin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on March 24, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
This thread is great craic

Keep er lit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on March 24, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
This thread is great craic

Keep er lit

Wait till the mc cooeys vs the rednecks kicks off!

Or the world vs loughgiel!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 09:31:27 PM

If I get time I will try delve into it but to be honest I haven't been on it in ages - because of such comments! I didn't stop using it because I imagined them!
Do you think other posters here also imagined them?!
Fair enough if this has now ceased - I'm happy to see that!

Altho I note your post blatantly ignores the tweet I referred to which I still see as pointless abrasiveness towards other Antrim Gaels. That's fine for the bar or private conversation but not official
County twitter especially after the debacle in tullamore. It puts a poor reflection on both our support and county admin.
[/quote]

Since you haven't been on the county guestbook 'in ages' maybe its not so wise to comment on the content on a fairly consistent basis?

And last night's tweet was about encouraging supporters - and alleged supporters - to get out to next weeks crucial match and support the team. The fuss and the 'aren't we awful' / 'isn't it embarrassing' comments about the team selection....it would be legitimate view to regard that as nonsense. BW didn't field anything like a full strength team, why would KR? When we played Offally in the Walsh Cup a number of U21s got a run out then, well this match was even less meaningful than that was.  This was an ideal opportunity to get a good run out for young players - they will benefit from it.

Turning up late, that seems bad form though I don't know the whys and wherefores of that one. But playing our strongest team the week before a relegation play off? Never going to happen and  rightly so I reckon.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 10:00:31 PM
All this fighting and the page number is  ::) ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on March 24, 2014, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 10:00:31 PM
All this fighting and the page number is  ::) ::)

And King Billy Fraser is the dominant personality.

And an Orangeman posting on a gaaboard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2014, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 10:00:31 PM
All this fighting and the page number is  ::) ::)

Sure we have 1989 to look forward to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 09:31:27 PM

If I get time I will try delve into it but to be honest I haven't been on it in ages - because of such comments! I didn't stop using it because I imagined them!
Do you think other posters here also imagined them?!
Fair enough if this has now ceased - I'm happy to see that!

Altho I note your post blatantly ignores the tweet I referred to which I still see as pointless abrasiveness towards other Antrim Gaels. That's fine for the bar or private conversation but not official
County twitter especially after the debacle in tullamore. It puts a poor reflection on both our support and county admin.

Since you haven't been on the county guestbook 'in ages' maybe its not so wise to comment on the content on a fairly consistent basis?

the fact that the comments I referred to May have been a while ago does not negate theur nature and the impression they gave of our county. I also acknowledge there had been a recent change in the type of response - that in itself perhaps shows the initial responses were less than satisfactory

And last night's tweet was about encouraging supporters - and alleged supporters - to get out to next weeks crucial match and support the team. The fuss and the 'aren't we awful' / 'isn't it embarrassing' comments about the team selection....it would be legitimate view to regard that as nonsense. BW didn't field anything like a full strength team, why would KR? When we played Offally in the Walsh Cup a number of U21s got a run out then, well this match was even less meaningful than that was.  This was an ideal opportunity to get a good run out for young players - they will benefit from it.

you are entitled to that opinion but others are just as entitled to theirs which are equally as valid - but if you believe that tweet would encourage people to attend you are severely mis-guided

Turning up late, that seems bad form though I don't know the whys and wherefores of that one. But playing our strongest team the week before a relegation play off? Never going to happen and  rightly so I reckon.
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I'm glad you are at least able to recognise that Antrim can be in error! If however it was "never going to happen" then the team should have been published to save people the trip and admission fee if that was their choice. Both Offaly men and 2 Antrim men who could have been in Nowlan park with me rather than tullamore! And before I get castigated I was down that way for work god forgive me missing our U21s arriving late and dis-respecting a fixture we claim we don't get enough of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 09:31:27 PM

The fuss and the 'aren't we awful' / 'isn't it embarrassing' comments about the team selection....it would be legitimate view to regard that as nonsense. BW didn't field anything like a full strength team, why would KR? When we played Offally in the Walsh Cup a number of U21s got a run out then, well this match was even less meaningful than that was.  This was an ideal opportunity to get a good run out for young players - they will benefit from it.

Turning up late, that seems bad form though I don't know the whys and wherefores of that one. But playing our strongest team the week before a relegation play off? Never going to happen and  rightly so I reckon.

It's not nonsense and you've just spun a politician's answer there - refuting a point that no-one made. None of the Antrim posters on this thread, or this token Offaly supporter either, have any issue with Kevin Ryan's team selection. The issues are:

(1) Arriving late to the game which meant that the team was underprepared and consequently utterly inept for the early stages of the game due to the lack of a warm up or drills and having to rush out on the field.
(2) Claiming that they were unaware of the correct throw in time, which stretches credulity far beyond breaking point.
(3) Not publishing the team in advance so that supporters could make an informed choice. You are correct that Offaly rested a few starters aside from the long list of injuries, but the team was named on Thursday night and only one change was made to that team, which was enforced due to a late fitness test as far as I'm aware. This allowed supporters the option to travel or not on that basis. Antrim chose not to afford either their own supporters or ours the same luxury.
(4) Travelling with just nineteen players, which clearly illustrates a lack of interest. Nobody's saying that ye have to line out ye're best players but I'm sure there were another few panellists with either the seniors or under-21s who could have travelled to make up the numbers.

If you'd like to explain those aspects, then please do - but nobody on this thread claimed that KR should have selected his strongest XV, or anything like it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2014, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on March 24, 2014, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 24, 2014, 09:31:27 PM

The fuss and the 'aren't we awful' / 'isn't it embarrassing' comments about the team selection....it would be legitimate view to regard that as nonsense. BW didn't field anything like a full strength team, why would KR? When we played Offally in the Walsh Cup a number of U21s got a run out then, well this match was even less meaningful than that was.  This was an ideal opportunity to get a good run out for young players - they will benefit from it.

Turning up late, that seems bad form though I don't know the whys and wherefores of that one. But playing our strongest team the week before a relegation play off? Never going to happen and  rightly so I reckon.

It's not nonsense and you've just spun a politician's answer there - refuting a point that no-one made. None of the Antrim posters on this thread, or this token Offaly supporter either, have any issue with Kevin Ryan's team selection. The issues are:

(1) Arriving late to the game which meant that the team was underprepared and consequently utterly inept for the early stages of the game due to the lack of a warm up or drills and having to rush out on the field.
(2) Claiming that they were unaware of the correct throw in time, which stretches credulity far beyond breaking point.
(3) Not publishing the team in advance so that supporters could make an informed choice. You are correct that Offaly rested a few starters aside from the long list of injuries, but the team was named on Thursday night and only one change was made to that team, which was enforced due to a late fitness test as far as I'm aware. This allowed supporters the option to travel or not on that basis. Antrim chose not to afford either their own supporters or ours the same luxury.
(4) Travelling with just nineteen players, which clearly illustrates a lack of interest. Nobody's saying that ye have to line out ye're best players but I'm sure there were another few panellists with either the seniors or under-21s who could have travelled to make up the numbers.

If you'd like to explain those aspects, then please do - but nobody on this thread claimed that KR should have selected his strongest XV, or anything like it.

As an Antrim Gael and supporter I can only apologise to Offaly men for the whole thing - especially since our county representatives feel they don't need to.
Maybe now you can see that geography is not our only obstacle to development in Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
lets just call sunday what it was - a complete ballax, end of.

sort it out, and never let it happen again.

also this page number is cause of all the problems, again! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2014, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 25, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
lets just call sunday what it was - a complete ballax, end of.

sort it out, and never let it happen again.

also this page number is cause of all the problems, again! :)

Wait to it gets to 1983  and 2012 - I think I'll take those two pages offline LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2014, 11:34:55 AM
I have already mentally blocked them years out along! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2014, 07:00:50 PM
I promise I won't say anything.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 25, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
Are Antrim worth backing @ 3/1 vs Offally in Ballycastle? You run Cork close a couple of weeks ago, 3/1 seems edecent value.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 27, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
were generally 3-1 for a reason. bookies dont usually get it wrong sadly.

that siad this is a big game for antrim and if we can play like we did against Cork then we will be in with a good chance. will be a tight game with 2 points either way me thinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 27, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[

They are all available on the Antrim website - complete with a wonderful new admin moderator  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2014, 10:52:53 PM
It's true. Div 3 Football still aren't out to clubs yet Andytown News has them printed. Shambles but don't dare slag off the county admin or question them as club managers and players don't need to plan holidays or change shifts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 28, 2014, 09:37:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 27, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[

They are all available on the Antrim website - complete with a wonderful new admin moderator  ;)
What a day!!!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 29, 2014, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 27, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[

They are all available on the Antrim website - complete with a wonderful new admin moderator  ;)

Can you put up a link? I can't find them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2014, 04:16:46 PM
If you go to the league table - then click on the team name - it should bring up all that clubs fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 29, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on March 29, 2014, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 27, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[

They are all available on the Antrim website - complete with a wonderful new admin moderator  ;)

Can you put up a link? I can't find them.

Black and Amber. The division 1 fixtures aren't on the website, but if you click on division 1 reserve all their fixtures come up. Senior will be the same opponents on the same day. Our first game is away to Ballycran on sun 6th April
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on March 30, 2014, 09:53:57 AM
Thanks btdtgtt and Bonamargy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 30, 2014, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 30, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Woohoo, great tactics last week. ::) ;D
Destroyed Offaly with mind games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Well done Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2014, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Well done Antrim.

how did mcmanus do??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2014, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2014, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Well done Antrim.

how did mcmanus do??
no idea. I was eating a feed with my mother.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 30, 2014, 09:13:50 PM
McManus did very well, especially in the second half. Chrissy O Connell, Eoin Campbell and PJ O Connell were also very good. I am still not keen on Ryans tactic of bringing on a sub then taking him off 15 minutes later, Ciaran Clarke today, McGreevy against Cork and Matty Donnelly against Wexford. Poor form as far as I am concerned. In spite of this there have been encouraging signs of improvement over so the spring so fair play to Ryan and the players for that. Still need a few scoring forwards between now and June though, best of luck to Kevin Ryan finding those.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2014, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 30, 2014, 09:13:50 PM
McManus did very well, especially in the second half. Chrissy O Connell, Eoin Campbell and PJ O Connell were also very good. I am still not keen on Ryans tactic of bringing on a sub then taking him off 15 minutes later, Ciaran Clarke today, McGreevy against Cork and Matty Donnelly against Wexford. Poor form as far as I am concerned. In spite of this there have been encouraging signs of improvement over so the spring so fair play to Ryan and the players for that. Still need a few scoring forwards between now and June though, best of luck to Kevin Ryan finding those.
funny. I know where he could find 3 or 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2014, 10:06:06 PM
good result today Kevin ryan and Antrim players take a bow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2014, 10:49:50 PM
Great result today. Thought before the game we were in for it but thankfully proved very wrong. Hopefully onwards and upwards.

Sie unless you mean from another county then no you don't. 1 or 2 not 3 or 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on March 30, 2014, 11:02:47 PM
What a difference a week makes !

Well done Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 30, 2014, 11:07:02 PM
Great result.Well done to Kevin and the rest of his backroom team and if that directly or indirectly involves NMM well done to him too. A lot of hard work going on there in a two or three year plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on March 30, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 30, 2014, 11:11:32 PM
And there appears to be positive movement on the Casement Social Club front.

A great week for Antrim.


Even better news. Hopefully a deal can be reached that will suit all sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 30, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
8 down and the lads dug in, Barry McFall coming in was a major switch. They hurled their hearts out and got the result. Funny didn't see the 'Gaels' of Casement Park SC there today, or any game this year for this matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 30, 2014, 11:52:48 PM
Quote from: optimus cheese on March 30, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
8 down and the lads dug in, Barry McFall coming in was a major switch. They hurled their hearts out and got the result. Funny didn't see the 'Gaels' of Casement Park SC there today, or any game this year for this matter.
No, they're being sued by the county so probably can't afford to pay in.

Have a look at what you have ever done as a Gael of county Antrim.
Now have a look at what the likes of Gilly McIlhatton has done as a Gael of county Antrim.

Still questioning these 'Gaels'?

Who is being sued? AFAIK it's about rent owed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2014, 12:07:45 AM
I'm not an accountant. I don't know what the yearly rate of rent for the social club is, not to mention heat, electricity, public liability insurance is etc.  But this is about the right for the club to exist and outstanding bills is it not? Who's getting sued and under what basis? Educate me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 31, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
No, the judge will decide when it and if it's heard. This isn't a defamation case, it's about unpaid (if they were at all under whatever terms the bar existed in) bills. To say sued insinuates defamation or wrongdoing, an entirely separate accusation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clinker on March 31, 2014, 12:30:45 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on March 31, 2014, 12:17:46 AM

No, the judge will decide when it and if it's heard.


Aha haa haaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Dead on.

'If you're not careful then the man will come round and shout at you.'

Scaredy Ba drivel.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2014, 08:55:59 AM
good result for us. was pleased the way we played in the second half. though young campbell had a great game at right half back. shorty was brilliant, had a great game throughout the entire match. PJ O'Connell is another positive for me, shows well for the ball and isnt afraid to take a man on.

i dont think that matty warrents his place at all. far too slow esp when he was moved into full forward.

some thing good for us to build on for the summer and the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 31, 2014, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2014, 08:55:59 AM
good result for us. was pleased the way we played in the second half. though young campbell had a great game at right half back. shorty was brilliant, had a great game throughout the entire match. PJ O'Connell is another positive for me, shows well for the ball and isnt afraid to take a man on.

i dont think that matty warrents his place at all. far too slow esp when he was moved into full forward.

some thing good for us to build on for the summer and the championship

I agree. Matty has the heart of a lion and is no doubt a great trainer and county man in general but definitely hasn't the build or pace to cut it at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on March 31, 2014, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 27, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on March 27, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
Anyway, a little Belfast birdie told me last night that the Andersonstown News were able to publish a comprehensive list of all the Antrim Hurling Fixtures for this season!
After a bit of checking - this has been confirmed.
:o :-[

They are all available on the Antrim website - complete with a wonderful new admin moderator  ;)
You got my hopes up!!!
Went on to the website and clicked on first team in the league table and guess what!! No senior hurling league fixtures.
Surely if the Andytown News has them, then the website should have them.
Less than a week to go and no-one has a clue whether they have a game or not!!
It may have all hung on yesterday's result but surely the provisional fixtures can be published.

In addition, does anyone think those paying for advertising on the county website may be a bit p!ssed that, on the biggest day of the year so far and following such a terrific result in Ballycastle, the website is not being manned or updated on the day it is expecting it's biggest audience?

And before you say it - i am doing my bit for the county and no i am not available or qualified to help out on the website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concrete_boots on March 31, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
Big Matty Just isnt good enough... think young Yaddy McNaughton could be a great addition to the forward line if he returns from New York
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
ive heard our fixtures for the first half of the season. away to Portaferry, ballycastle, cushendall, loughgiel, st johns and home to ballycran, ballygalget, sarsfields and st galls!

so 5 of the toughest teams all away. we had better hope we stay in the top half to get a decent home fixture this year! would love to know who thought of this.

i hope im wrong with these fixtures as we wont get a big game (no disrespect to the other teams) at home v lgiel, cdall etc till late summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 01, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 01, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
ive heard our fixtures for the first half of the season. away to Portaferry, ballycastle, cushendall, loughgiel, st johns and home to ballycran, ballygalget, sarsfields and st galls!

so 5 of the toughest teams all away. we had better hope we stay in the top half to get a decent home fixture this year! would love to know who thought of this.

i hope im wrong with these fixtures as we wont get a big game (no disrespect to the other teams) at home v lgiel, cdall etc till late summer.


That's where the randomness (or transparency I called it at the time) could play a big part of what side of the draw you end up especially if you're a limbo team. I'd still expect Dunloy to be in the top half though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2014, 10:40:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 01, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
ive heard our fixtures for the first half of the season. away to Portaferry, ballycastle, cushendall, loughgiel, st johns and home to ballycran, ballygalget, sarsfields and st galls!

so 5 of the toughest teams all away. we had better hope we stay in the top half to get a decent home fixture this year! would love to know who thought of this.

i hope im wrong with these fixtures as we wont get a big game (no disrespect to the other teams) at home v lgiel, cdall etc till late summer.

If you win all your home games you should stay in top half, simples
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 01, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
Great result for Antrim at the weekend as it was very important we didn't get relegated.

But, we didn't win a single league game and still stayed up, something wrong there??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
It seems those pesky drunks in Casement have got everything they wanted after the suits from Croker told our County Chairman to get a grip!
No doubt the political juggernaut will do something similar soon to settle with the residents.
Hopefully a suitable solution can be found there also!
Who knows - maybe a new Casement we can all get behind!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
It seems those pesky drunks in Casement have got everything they wanted after the suits from Croker told our County Chairman to get a grip!
No doubt the political juggernaut will do something similar soon to settle with the residents.
Hopefully a suitable solution can be found there also!
Who knows - maybe a new Casement we can all get behind!

If it's all sorted let's drop it here. We always seem to do our dirty washing in the public eye

This sky things got my gander up more now anyway. It could be the beginning of the end of the gaa as we know it. Anyone already paying for sky sports probably doesn't care

Can anyone tell me if a club put forward a motion to squash this when sky contract is up would it be brought to congress for a vote
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
It seems those pesky drunks in Casement have got everything they wanted after the suits from Croker told our County Chairman to get a grip!
No doubt the political juggernaut will do something similar soon to settle with the residents.
Hopefully a suitable solution can be found there also!
Who knows - maybe a new Casement we can all get behind!

If it's all sorted let's drop it here. We always seem to do our dirty washing in the public eye

This sky things got my gander up more now anyway. It could be the beginning of the end of the gaa as we know it. Anyone already paying for sky sports probably doesn't care

Can anyone tell me if a club put forward a motion to squash this when sky contract is up would it be brought to congress for a vote

Sometimes doing the dirty washing in public is the only way to shame people into the correct response (that the church as a very good example)

Yes ...to me the sky deal is really worrying

Just feels like part of a staged process
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2014, 02:53:50 PM
Agree on both.

Doing things in public isn't a bad thing when we cant trust what is going on behind the scenes.

The Sky deal and Casement both have that in common.

My social club/ Casement standing is clear.

In terms of Sky - I dont but for one moment this notion of promoting our games abroad when they need promoted in Ireland first and foremost.
The money is issue is obviously a hot potato and for me is only justifiable if its is handed over directly to clubs - we know this hasn't been the case!

Yet again we're back to open transparency - something which would have been provided by Congress if the suits in Croker had bothered to dignify the rest of the GAA with that!

Sad time lads - a crossroads but I fear the right road will be blocked off by the money men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CSC on April 02, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
Ref SKY
Living abroad, we need it. The current systems is terrable. Sanata, pubs have to pay for a subscription, then they, Sanata, charge everybody going into the pub, and you can't watch it at home without using the usual streaming feeds. So you are forced to watch it with your kids in the pub.

My sons team has a number of kids from different ethnic backgrounds. We the parents ask where can they watch a live match, and you respond with in the pub at 9.30 in the morning, it's embarrassing.

Also, RTE needs a kick up the backside. Maybe we'll have a proper product now, with proper analysis and get away from the "my granny can run faster" bs analysis.

Additionally, any additional money that can be fed back to clubs, more the better.

When Croke was being build and they announced the corporate boxes, people were up in arms, has the gaa changed in the meantime...no.

When we opened the doors to rugby, did the gaa change....no

Now that certain matches are being televised live on SKY, will it change the gaa...no
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 05:15:01 PM
Why do people differentiate between sky and setanta? With setanta and league games at present live showings are pay per view? Not sure I understand why people differentiate. Is it the scale? On that point the GAA were selling to a different TV station anyway in TV3. It was beign sold for money - perhaps it's more now but fundamentally same principle.

One thing that always p*ssed me off aboutwas that I could not get TV3. I have always found that very exclusive and never liked it. At least with sky sports there will be the option.

36k swept under the carpet. If all that is read is to be believed and this bill never existed then it is something that stinks and I hope someone answers for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

There's no problem with the GAA going global. When you  look at your average premiership match and compare that to a good hurling match anyone can see its better. Sky or whoever won't have to try to hard as it's gonna sell itself. It's great for all the x pats to
But to give  them exclusive rights to 14 games that people Ireland have to pay to watch is not on

There will be people that has given a lot there time to there clubs and maybe even played for there county that are being asked to pay now if they want to see these matches

Croke park are getting more removed  from the  volunteers on the ground as time passes

How long can we hold off paying players when even rupert Murdock is profiting from an Amatuer organisation.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

There's no problem with the GAA going global. When you  look at your average premiership match and compare that to a good hurling match anyone can see its better. Sky or whoever won't have to try to hard as it's gonna sell itself. It's great for all the x pats to
But to give  them exclusive rights to 14 games that people Ireland have to pay to watch is not on

There will be people that has given a lot there time to there clubs and maybe even played for there county that are being asked to pay now if they want to see these matches

Croke park are getting more removed  from the  volunteers on the ground as time passes

How long can we hold off paying players when even rupert Murdock is profiting from an Amatuer organisation.

At the minute I'd say a decent percentage of people from NI can't see games on TV3. I always thought that was a disgrace making it so inaccessible. It's not really making it any more inaccessible up here for a lot of people.

The GAA is just run as a business and to be honest couldn't really care less about the ground level. Look at the debacle at casement. Not one care could they give. That doesn't excuse it by the way but none of it surprises you.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

There's no problem with the GAA going global. When you  look at your average premiership match and compare that to a good hurling match anyone can see its better. Sky or whoever won't have to try to hard as it's gonna sell itself. It's great for all the x pats to
But to give  them exclusive rights to 14 games that people Ireland have to pay to watch is not on

There will be people that has given a lot there time to there clubs and maybe even played for there county that are being asked to pay now if they want to see these matches

Croke park are getting more removed  from the  volunteers on the ground as time passes

How long can we hold off paying players when even rupert Murdock is profiting from an Amatuer organisation.

At the minute I'd say a decent percentage of people from NI can't see games on TV3. I always thought that was a disgrace making it so inaccessible. It's not really making it any more inaccessible up here for a lot of people.

The GAA is just run as a business and to be honest couldn't really care less about the ground level. Look at the debacle at casement. Not one care could they give. That doesn't excuse it by the way but none of it surprises you.

That's fair comment but I see it as something bigger down the road
As someone else said on another thread the powers that be are seeing fit that their members are now the customer
I won't be subscribing to sky on a moral basis
What if Antrim reach a quarter final some time and we have to pay to view

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on April 02, 2014, 07:13:29 PM
Personally I think there are too many games on TV already!!

Sky TV has been great for the premiership but is killing grassroots football in England.  The double bill of GAA every Sunday certainly has an effect on club attendances.  I'm undecided on whether this is a positive or negative development.

I'd be cautiously leaning towards positive with a fear of further hyperbole of inter county games at the expense of club activities
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 02, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
The club season gets under way this weekend. Here are my predictions for league and championship. What do you think?

Div 1: 1st Loughgiel 2nd Ballycastle
Senior Championship: Loughgiel. Runner up: Clooney Gaels

Div 2: 1st Rossa 2nd Carey
Intermediate Championship: Carey. Runner up: Glenariff

Div 3: 1st Lamh Dhearg 2nd Creggan
Junior Championship: St Theresa's

Div 4: 1st Glenravel

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 02, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

There's no problem with the GAA going global. When you  look at your average premiership match and compare that to a good hurling match anyone can see its better. Sky or whoever won't have to try to hard as it's gonna sell itself. It's great for all the x pats to
But to give  them exclusive rights to 14 games that people Ireland have to pay to watch is not on

There will be people that has given a lot there time to there clubs and maybe even played for there county that are being asked to pay now if they want to see these matches

Croke park are getting more removed  from the  volunteers on the ground as time passes

How long can we hold off paying players when even rupert Murdock is profiting from an Amatuer organisation.

At the minute I'd say a decent percentage of people from NI can't see games on TV3. I always thought that was a disgrace making it so inaccessible. It's not really making it any more inaccessible up here for a lot of people.

The GAA is just run as a business and to be honest couldn't really care less about the ground level. Look at the debacle at casement. Not one care could they give. That doesn't excuse it by the way but none of it surprises you.

That's fair comment but I see it as something bigger down the road
As someone else said on another thread the powers that be are seeing fit that their members are now the customer
I won't be subscribing to sky on a moral basis
What if Antrim reach a quarter final some time and we have to pay to view

Would you not be at it?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2014, 08:23:31 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 02, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

There's no problem with the GAA going global. When you  look at your average premiership match and compare that to a good hurling match anyone can see its better. Sky or whoever won't have to try to hard as it's gonna sell itself. It's great for all the x pats to
But to give  them exclusive rights to 14 games that people Ireland have to pay to watch is not on

There will be people that has given a lot there time to there clubs and maybe even played for there county that are being asked to pay now if they want to see these matches

Croke park are getting more removed  from the  volunteers on the ground as time passes

How long can we hold off paying players when even rupert Murdock is profiting from an Amatuer organisation.

At the minute I'd say a decent percentage of people from NI can't see games on TV3. I always thought that was a disgrace making it so inaccessible. It's not really making it any more inaccessible up here for a lot of people.

The GAA is just run as a business and to be honest couldn't really care less about the ground level. Look at the debacle at casement. Not one care could they give. That doesn't excuse it by the way but none of it surprises you.

That's fair comment but I see it as something bigger down the road
As someone else said on another thread the powers that be are seeing fit that their members are now the customer
I won't be subscribing to sky on a moral basis
What if Antrim reach a quarter final some time and we have to pay to view

Would you not be at it??

???

Yeah and yourself but my mums in her late 70s she always watches Antrim games when they are on
I wasn't referring to myself. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2014, 09:21:56 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 02, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
The club season gets under way this weekend. Here are my predictions for league and championship. What do you think?

Div 1: 1st Loughgiel 2nd Ballycastle
Senior Championship: Loughgiel. Runner up: Clooney Gaels

Div 2: 1st Rossa 2nd Carey
Intermediate Championship: Carey. Runner up: Glenariff

Div 3: 1st Lamh Dhearg 2nd Creggan
Junior Championship: St Theresa's

Div 4: 1st Glenravel

That's about right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: CSC on April 02, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
Ref SKY
Living abroad, we need it. The current systems is terrable. Sanata, pubs have to pay for a subscription, then they, Sanata, charge everybody going into the pub, and you can't watch it at home without using the usual streaming feeds. So you are forced to watch it with your kids in the pub.

My sons team has a number of kids from different ethnic backgrounds. We the parents ask where can they watch a live match, and you respond with in the pub at 9.30 in the morning, it's embarrassing.

Also, RTE needs a kick up the backside. Maybe we'll have a proper product now, with proper analysis and get away from the "my granny can run faster" bs analysis.

Additionally, any additional money that can be fed back to clubs, more the better.

When Croke was being build and they announced the corporate boxes, people were up in arms, has the gaa changed in the meantime...no.

When we opened the doors to rugby, did the gaa change....no

Now that certain matches are being televised live on SKY, will it change the gaa...no

It never has been before so why start now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 02, 2014, 05:15:01 PM
Why do people differentiate between sky and setanta? With setanta and league games at present live showings are pay per view? Not sure I understand why people differentiate. Is it the scale? On that point the GAA were selling to a different TV station anyway in TV3. It was beign sold for money - perhaps it's more now but fundamentally same principle.

One thing that always p*ssed me off aboutwas that I could not get TV3. I have always found that very exclusive and never liked it. At least with sky sports there will be the option.

36k swept under the carpet. If all that is read is to be believed and this bill never existed then it is something that stinks and I hope someone answers for it.

So true.
The real test will be if those responsible are held to account.
Otherwise these sorts of debacles that plague our county will continue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I'm glad sky got it. I can't get tv3. I think sky will make it an altogether more professional looking presentation, and spread the word to the great unwashed. After all, that's what we all want. Right?

The hurling gospel needs spread all around Ireland before we worry about other countries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:51:04 AM
Sorry for the string of replies but I'm abroad (working not with Sky spreading hurling!).

A few comments about Croke park and Corporate GAA being removed -  couldn't agree more.

Lets not forget that alot of people cant even go to matches now due to club commitments - Croke don't care about this! And they don't care who watches them as long as they get sufficient TV money and sell out the semis & finals.

Comparing to other sports is interesting! Grassroots rugby has suffered hugely as a result of the two-tier systems brought in - thats where GAA is heading. Sorry - thats were we are already!

As for hurling predictions;

Div1 Loughgiel
Relegated Sarsfields
Championship Loughgiel

Division2 Glenarriffe
Relegated Bredagh
Intermediate Glenarriffe

Division 3 lamh dearg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:51:04 AM
Sorry for the string of replies but I'm abroad (working not with Sky spreading hurling!).

A few comments about Croke park and Corporate GAA being removed -  couldn't agree more.

Lets not forget that alot of people cant even go to matches now due to club commitments - Croke don't care about this! And they don't care who watches them as long as they get sufficient TV money and sell out the semis & finals.

Comparing to other sports is interesting! Grassroots rugby has suffered hugely as a result of the two-tier systems brought in - thats where GAA is heading. Sorry - thats were we are already!

As for hurling predictions;

Div1 Loughgiel
Relegated Sarsfields
Championship Loughgiel

Division2 Glenarriffe
Relegated Bredagh
Intermediate Glenarriffe

Division 3 lamh dearg
I'd have to make cushendall early favourites for the championship.  :-X


*takes cover
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on April 04, 2014, 09:03:17 AM
Does anyone have any views on how they see Division 4 hurling panning out this year?  Anyone any information on Ballyvarley from Co.Down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2014, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2014, 11:51:04 AM
Sorry for the string of replies but I'm abroad (working not with Sky spreading hurling!).

A few comments about Croke park and Corporate GAA being removed -  couldn't agree more.

Lets not forget that alot of people cant even go to matches now due to club commitments - Croke don't care about this! And they don't care who watches them as long as they get sufficient TV money and sell out the semis & finals.

Comparing to other sports is interesting! Grassroots rugby has suffered hugely as a result of the two-tier systems brought in - thats where GAA is heading. Sorry - thats were we are already!

As for hurling predictions;

Div1 Loughgiel
Relegated Sarsfields
Championship Loughgiel

Division2 Glenarriffe
Relegated Bredagh
Intermediate Glenarriffe

Division 3 lamh dearg
I'd have to make cushendall early favourites for the championship.  :-X


*takes cover

Feis cup Loughgiel
Division 1 Loughgiel
Chmpionship Loughgiel
Reserve Championship Loughgiel

;D loughgiel are, as always, the team to beat - behind cushendall as well

*hides behind your cover!*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 04, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: Larnegaa on April 04, 2014, 09:03:17 AM
Does anyone have any views on how they see Division 4 hurling panning out this year?  Anyone any information on Ballyvarley from Co.Down?

They'd be handy enough at that level if they get all their players out, which isn't always the case.

Play in red and white and based in and around the Banbridge/Katesbridge area.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING.
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: Larnegaa on April 04, 2014, 09:03:17 AM
Does anyone have any views on how they see Division 4 hurling panning out this year?  Anyone any information on Ballyvarley from Co.Down?

They'd be handy enough at that level if they get all their players out, which isn't always the case.

Play in red and white and based in and around the Banbridge/Katesbridge area.
Ballyvarley play on the Scarva road out of Banbridge. Apart from that I've no idea what level they're at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 04, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: Larnegaa on April 04, 2014, 09:03:17 AM
Does anyone have any views on how they see Division 4 hurling panning out this year?  Anyone any information on Ballyvarley from Co.Down?

Can see division 4 being very tight. Glenravel obvious favourites but wouldn't rule out ODonnells or All Saints if they get their act together.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Cross and passion vs Roscrea on tg4 now.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Cross and passion vs Roscrea on tg4 now.  ;)

Christ they are big lads!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 03:12:57 PM
Cross and passion vs Roscrea on tg4 now.  ;)

Christ they are big lads!!
some start by cpc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on April 05, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
Started very well. What clubs would provide the majority of players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on April 05, 2014, 03:27:34 PM
no 10 lucky to be still on .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 03:28:08 PM
Ballycastle, cushendall, Loughgiel, armoy, Carey, cloughmills. Not sure if any Dunloy on there or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
That was very harsh, the umpire was looking up in the air and then decided the keeper crossed the line ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on April 05, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
He stepped of his line as he came out so had a bit of room to play with. Cant see how that was given. very harsh alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 05, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
The umpire is a f**king balloon, never a goal. Big second half needed to claw this back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
One of them seemed to be looking across the line. Looked like he called it. Fine line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on April 05, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
Cross and Passion just didn't have much in the forward line. Ball coming out to easy. Done well to get there all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2014, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on April 05, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
Cross and Passion just didn't have much in the forward line. Ball coming out to easy. Done well to get there all the same.

They hurled them off the park up to that dodgy goal, heads down after that and the other team had a very strong second half, well done all the same and unlucky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 05, 2014, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2014, 04:38:10 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on April 05, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
Cross and Passion just didn't have much in the forward line. Ball coming out to easy. Done well to get there all the same.

They hurled them off the park up to that dodgy goal, heads down after that and the other team had a very strong second half, well done all the same and unlucky
Aye Roscrea pushed on after the goal and CPC never recovered. Would say they were the better team up to the goal but you have to think a really good team wouldn't drop the heads, but they're only wanes!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
Confidence is everything and that decision seemed to deflate the cpc hurlers. Well done to the victors and hard luck cpc. They did well to get that far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 05, 2014, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 05, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
Started very well. What clubs would provide the majority of players?

On the starting 15, there was 4 Ballycastle, 3 Carey, 3 Loughgiel, 3 Cushendall, 1 Armoy, 1 Cushendun

Hard luck to the lads, gave it their all and started brilliantly to lead 5-2, but that goal just deflated them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on April 05, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
Thought i was harsh, the replays aren't are best couldn't say for sure. The on coming forward in fairness didn't protest about it. But ref was miles away, have to go with the umpires. Hard luck the convent lads. After that Roscrea midfield dominated the game.

One thing which had me shouting at the telly, was the amount of times the boys on both sides failed to pick the ball, stabbing away with one hand on the stick, TWO HANDS!!!!

I should finish on a positive note the free taking from both teams was excellent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
Shamrocks 8-3 up at half time. Fierce wind blowing altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on April 06, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
Sorry SIE, missed the fixtures? who are you playing today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: pullhard on April 06, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
Sorry SIE, missed the fixtures? who are you playing today?
ballygalget at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
Won 1-16 to 0-06
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
Ballycastle 2-12 ballycran 5-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2014, 05:41:05 PM
Dunloy finished up getting a 1-13 to 12 points win against the ports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on April 06, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
some amount of traveling from the Down teams today. only one leaving with anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: pullhard on April 06, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
some amount of traveling from the Down teams today. only one leaving with anything
I think portaferry were at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on April 06, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
St John's 1-17 Sarsfields 1-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on April 06, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
St John's 1-17 Sarsfields 1-15
To be honest I'd have expected the johnnies to win by more. Good performance by sarsfields?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 06, 2014, 10:53:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
Ballycastle 2-12 ballycran 5-12

Bad start today. Were 15 down at half time as well. Hopefully a wake up call and better next time out V portaferry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 07, 2014, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
Won 1-16 to 0-06

Surprised it wasn't more TBH with the team we put out as we'd a few 'junior' hurlers in key positions due to an ever growing injury list for some unknown reason, but its not a game we'd be expecting to win anyway. We'll need to get a few lads back and quick if we've any aspirations of a top 5 finish.
Crans will be the pick of the Ards teams this year if they can get a scoring forward or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Thanks very much no doubt will get the low-down when I get back.
Didn't realise there's now a big gap in fixtures again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 08, 2014, 11:55:28 AM
Shocking bit of news today.  Heard a whisper a few months back,didnt believe it. Shams  rocked as pj steps aside. Am quessing the big mans ankle has him fecked.  Shed any light SIE? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 08, 2014, 11:55:28 AM
Shocking bit of news today.  Heard a whisper a few months back,didnt believe it. Shams  rocked as pj steps aside. Am quessing the big mans ankle has him fecked.  Shed any light SIE?
Not that shocking really SG. He was supposed to go for the operation in January but postponed it until May. It's going to take at least 2 months before he's up and about again. So Joe is taking over the management reigns. Pj will be back as a trainer when he's able. And then the whole management team are standing down at the end of this season. Time to move on. And who knows, maybe another management appointment awaits?   ;)  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 08, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
Lol  well obviously another one awaits. Were good lad. But still need a gaffer. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 08, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
Lol  well obviously another one awaits. Were good lad. But still need a gaffer. Lol

Busy  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there
Just from the point of view that it was a tight game that they may have gotten something from considering how badly they fared last year. I would have expected Dunloy to have beaten them quite handily to be honest, but with the tight scoreline if Portaferry had have pushed on that would have been a big two points for them for later in the season.
No slight on Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 03:08:17 PM
Who's the "Joe"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there
Just from the point of view that it was a tight game that they may have gotten something from considering how badly they fared last year. I would have expected Dunloy to have beaten them quite handily to be honest, but with the tight scoreline if Portaferry had have pushed on that would have been a big two points for them for later in the season.
No slight on Dunloy.

No just thought that it was strange, Dunloy would still be favs to beat Portaferry most days is all. Think unfortunately over the past few seasons the level of the Ards clubs has dropped off a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 08, 2014, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 03:08:17 PM
Who's the "Joe"?
McGurk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 08, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there

Dont really understand how that is a strange comment

The way i took it, Portaferry had a chance to beat Dunloy and didnt take it, therefore may regret it later in the season as those 2 points could have been valuable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: Megaman on April 08, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there

Dont really understand how that is a strange comment

The way i took it, Portaferry had a chance to beat Dunloy and didnt take it, therefore may regret it later in the season as those 2 points could have been valuable.

Fair enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2014, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: Megaman on April 08, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there

Dont really understand how that is a strange comment

The way i took it, Portaferry had a chance to beat Dunloy and didnt take it, therefore may regret it later in the season as those 2 points could have been valuable.

Unless they didn't have a chance to bag two goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2014, 08:49:47 AM
didnt get to our game on sunday as i was away wasting money in liverpool at the weekend on horses!

tight game from what i heard as it always is in portaferry. you never get it easy down there at all and considering its a one way league and were away to the strongest teams in the first half of the season its important to get the 2 points away from home regardless of the score/performance.

very happy with that result with a home game up next to either Ballycran or ballygalget is it?

surprised at the ballycastle result, i would of expected them to win that one at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 09, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 09, 2014, 08:49:47 AM
didnt get to our game on sunday as i was away wasting money in liverpool at the weekend on horses!

tight game from what i heard as it always is in portaferry. you never get it easy down there at all and considering its a one way league and were away to the strongest teams in the first half of the season its important to get the 2 points away from home regardless of the score/performance.

very happy with that result with a home game up next to either Ballycran or ballygalget is it?

surprised at the ballycastle result, i would of expected them to win that one at home

Ballycran had to reverse that fixture as their pitch was unplayable, good two points to have in the bag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on April 09, 2014, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: Megaman on April 08, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 08, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Any more match info especially from the City teams?

Shared check-in lounge with a Cork man - not optimistic about the year ahead.
Imagine if he had to support Antrim!

Hopefully the club games started with a bang.
St Johns and Sarsfields reportedly not of the highest standard - but its only the first game.
St Galls reportedly had underfiring forwards. Matched Cushendall but couldnt finish.
Portaferry may live to regret not bagging a couple of points against Dunloy later in the year.
Surprised at Ballycastle. Thought they would have won that one at home

Really strange comment there

Dont really understand how that is a strange comment

The way i took it, Portaferry had a chance to beat Dunloy and didnt take it, therefore may regret it later in the season as those 2 points could have been valuable.

Fair enough
Yeah, thats exactly what I meant boys.
Do you think there's a lax attitude about the league this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
i would of thought that the club would be more inclined to want to be in the top half.

from a money point of view if we didnt get in the top half of the league we lose big attented fixtures from games against cushendall, ballycastle and esp loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 10, 2014, 08:47:40 PM
Just home to hear of the passing of Gerard McFall Snr. The sheriff.
Father of Gerard Jnr Pearse Colm Dermot and Brian.
RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 12, 2014, 10:02:31 PM
https://www.facebook.com/william.dunne.3/posts/1491174087772437

Can this be true ?
Seriously one step fwd and four back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2014, 10:34:35 PM
heard  that myself, must be true!

Dicks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 13, 2014, 12:04:32 AM
But, if it's a deal between honest people and there were handshakes and/or signed contracts then it's a binding, legal agreement.

Or, it's the Antrim county board and/or the GAA.  :-X

Nothing surprises me about or within the entire Antrim GAA anymore. If I didn't care I'd be laughing.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 08:36:35 AM
Your worst fears were correct HS, PQ was telling you what you wanted to hear, not what he ultimately knew would happen.

This monumental f**k up continues unabated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 14, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27018412?SThisFB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 14, 2014, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 08:36:35 AM
Your worst fears were correct HS, PQ was telling you what you wanted to hear, not what he ultimately knew would happen.

This monumental f**k up continues unabated.
I don't understand what goes on in their minds.

HS

Try explaining the U turn to us and where the situation is now as far as you know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I'm shocked a man of Peter Quinn stature would permit this debacle once he's involved as it reflects on him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogball88 on April 14, 2014, 10:47:07 AM
Sounds a bit like the 24 hours sit in at Camp Twaddell  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I'm shocked a man of Peter Quinn stature would permit this debacle once he's involved as it reflects on him.

Evidently Peter works in the shadows and no doubt his name won't be put to anything in relation to this. I'd have held him in high regard, but unless he and/or the Ulster council come out and make a statement clarifying their official position on the future of the Casement Social club then you can be sure they're the ones pulling the strings with Jim and Frankie being put out to get fed to the lions with the buy off of a cushy wee number in the new stadium being their pay off.

HS,
Did the Casement lads minute the meeting with PQ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I'm shocked a man of Peter Quinn stature would permit this debacle once he's involved as it reflects on him.

Evidently Peter works in the shadows and no doubt his name won't be put to anything in relation to this. I'd have held him in high regard, but unless he and/or the Ulster council come out and make a statement clarifying their official position on the future of the Casement Social club then you can be sure they're the ones pulling the strings with Jim and Frankie being put out to get fed to the lions with the buy off of a cushy wee number in the new stadium being their pay off.

HS,
Did the Casement lads minute the meeting with PQ?
I'm not sure but the meeting was held in the court where both side's legal teams were present along with an independant mediator.

Then surely it was minuted, with both sides agreeing the outcomes and signing up to it, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I'm shocked a man of Peter Quinn stature would permit this debacle once he's involved as it reflects on him.

Evidently Peter works in the shadows and no doubt his name won't be put to anything in relation to this. I'd have held him in high regard, but unless he and/or the Ulster council come out and make a statement clarifying their official position on the future of the Casement Social club then you can be sure they're the ones pulling the strings with Jim and Frankie being put out to get fed to the lions with the buy off of a cushy wee number in the new stadium being their pay off.

HS,
Did the Casement lads minute the meeting with PQ?
I'm not sure but the meeting was held in the court where both side's legal teams were present along with an independant mediator.

Then surely it was minuted, with both sides agreeing the outcomes and signing up to it, no?
I imagine so. I mean, they issued a joint statement.

Aye, but that'd be the wishy washy stuff about amicable agreements and all that, but the devil will be in the detail.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
I'm shocked a man of Peter Quinn stature would permit this debacle once he's involved as it reflects on him.

Evidently Peter works in the shadows and no doubt his name won't be put to anything in relation to this. I'd have held him in high regard, but unless he and/or the Ulster council come out and make a statement clarifying their official position on the future of the Casement Social club then you can be sure they're the ones pulling the strings with Jim and Frankie being put out to get fed to the lions with the buy off of a cushy wee number in the new stadium being their pay off.

HS,
Did the Casement lads minute the meeting with PQ?
I'm not sure but the meeting was held in the court where both side's legal teams were present along with an independant mediator.

Then surely it was minuted, with both sides agreeing the outcomes and signing up to it, no?
I imagine so. I mean, they issued a joint statement.

Aye, but that'd be the wishy washy stuff about amicable agreements and all that, but the devil will be in the detail.

I think what JC is trying to say is was it officially recorded at the meetings and acknowledged by both parties

The problem with a gentlemans agreement is your first need two gentlemen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 15, 2014, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Was there a further update overnight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Still the residents to appease before it can be built I would say, not sorted yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 15, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
The latest stunt appears to have been done at the hands of our county board and the total half-wits in O'Haire Solicitors. Gerry has played a real blinder in all of this.

Ulster Council claim to have been oblivious to the recent letter and are therefore leaving the blame firmly at Antrim's door. Believe them? Not sure but I can't see any reason why they would have sent the letter and then backtrack like fcuk along with getting more negative publicity.

The personnel on our county executive are thick enough to do it, that is for sure. It is high time the Ulster Council told them to stay the fcuk out of the road. The interviews for the stadium management positions should be fun.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Still the residents to appease before it can be built I would say, not sorted yet.
True.

What interviews?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 15, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
The latest stunt appears to have been done at the hands of our county board and the total half-wits in O'Haire Solicitors. Gerry has played a real blinder in all of this.

Ulster Council claim to have been oblivious to the recent letter and are therefore leaving the blame firmly at Antrim's door. Believe them? Not sure but I can't see any reason why they would have sent the letter and then backtrack like fcuk along with getting more negative publicity.

The personnel on our county executive are thick enough to do it, that is for sure. It is high time the Ulster Council told them to stay the fcuk out of the road. The interviews for the stadium management positions should be fun.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Still the residents to appease before it can be built I would say, not sorted yet.
True.

What interviews?
Surely the GAA would advertise these jobs and use the correct process in selecting their candidates?

There is no 'surely' about it, any job in the new stadium will have to be advertised in the normal way that any job would be.
With the amount of public money going into this there will be no alternative to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
If it's a GAA position in can be an internal appointment like any other organisation - it depends on who the actual employer is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 15, 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 15, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
The latest stunt appears to have been done at the hands of our county board and the total half-wits in O'Haire Solicitors. Gerry has played a real blinder in all of this.

Ulster Council claim to have been oblivious to the recent letter and are therefore leaving the blame firmly at Antrim's door. Believe them? Not sure but I can't see any reason why they would have sent the letter and then backtrack like fcuk along with getting more negative publicity.

The personnel on our county executive are thick enough to do it, that is for sure. It is high time the Ulster Council told them to stay the fcuk out of the road. The interviews for the stadium management positions should be fun.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Still the residents to appease before it can be built I would say, not sorted yet.
True.

What interviews?
Surely the GAA would advertise these jobs and use the correct process in selecting their candidates?

There is no 'surely' about it, any job in the new stadium will have to be advertised in the normal way that any job would be.
With the amount of public money going into this there will be no alternative to this.

They will advertise it but they can still give it to whoever they want. It will probably just be a paper exercise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2014, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 15, 2014, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 15, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 15, 2014, 09:27:39 AM
The latest stunt appears to have been done at the hands of our county board and the total half-wits in O'Haire Solicitors. Gerry has played a real blinder in all of this.

Ulster Council claim to have been oblivious to the recent letter and are therefore leaving the blame firmly at Antrim's door. Believe them? Not sure but I can't see any reason why they would have sent the letter and then backtrack like fcuk along with getting more negative publicity.

The personnel on our county executive are thick enough to do it, that is for sure. It is high time the Ulster Council told them to stay the fcuk out of the road. The interviews for the stadium management positions should be fun.

Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 15, 2014, 08:56:11 AM
so its all sorted out now, can we now build this fecking stadium! lol

Still the residents to appease before it can be built I would say, not sorted yet.
True.

What interviews?
Surely the GAA would advertise these jobs and use the correct process in selecting their candidates?

There is no 'surely' about it, any job in the new stadium will have to be advertised in the normal way that any job would be.
With the amount of public money going into this there will be no alternative to this.

They will advertise it but they can still give it to whoever they want. It will probably just be a paper exercise.

I am not saying that this is or wont be the case but what I am saying is that these jobs will be advertised and will be interviewed for and those involved would be extremely naive (which we all know has been the case in the past) if they think they can give out jobs for the boys. If I was applying for one of these jobs and was suitably qualified and didnt get it over a candidate who was not, my legal counsel would be all over it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 09:14:59 AM
If an employer creates a new position within their company they are not obliged to fulfill it externally - it's the same for any company.
If a job created by the new stadium is under the employment of Ulster Council there is nothing to stop them appointing from within.
But if the public money means the job is under the auspices or funding of different body/organisation - then obviously it will need to be advertised. And the associated public scrutiny like independent monitoring & FoA etc.
We can just wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 16, 2014, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 09:14:59 AM
If an employer creates a new position within their company they are not obliged to fulfill it externally - it's the same for any company.
If a job created by the new stadium is under the employment of Ulster Council there is nothing to stop them appointing from within.
But if the public money means the job is under the auspices or funding of different body/organisation - then obviously it will need to be advertised. And the associated public scrutiny like independent monitoring & FoA etc.
We can just wait and see what happens.

Im assuming there will be a new company set up as a stadium management company no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on April 16, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Friends, there are a lot of opinions and heresay about this whole debacle. It's all very unsavoury. To date only one party has come out and gave "their version of events". Any of us with any wit will know that there are always two sides to every story and they are not often the same. Whilst its easy to take a side swipe at those in power whether it be in our clubs/counties wherever, those doing all the shouting are usually never prepared to take office or responsibility. With that in mind i'd be keen to hear the Executives version of events in order that I can make an informed decision of my own as to what the real problem is here. And until I make that decision - i will keep an open mind. The only slight concern i have to date is - why has our Executive not come out with their version of events?
I am not saying they have to. They may be absolutely right in what they are doing and therefore do not need to broadcast it or defend themselves but i always think a bit of transparency is good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on April 16, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Friends, there are a lot of opinions and heresay about this whole debacle. It's all very unsavoury. To date only one party has come out and gave "their version of events". Any of us with any wit will know that there are always two sides to every story and they are not often the same. Whilst its easy to take a side swipe at those in power whether it be in our clubs/counties wherever, those doing all the shouting are usually never prepared to take office or responsibility. With that in mind i'd be keen to hear the Executives version of events in order that I can make an informed decision of my own as to what the real problem is here. And until I make that decision - i will keep an open mind. The only slight concern i have to date is - why has our Executive not come out with their version of events?
I am not saying they have to. They may be absolutely right in what they are doing and therefore do not need to broadcast it or defend themselves but i always think a bit of transparency is good.

I think there is a very good reason why we haven't heard much from the Executive on this.
If they had any notion of justification for their actions rest assured we 'd have heard.
And so again - how will this whole thing be dealt with come Convention and accountability?
You've guessed it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 07:27:48 PM
I will opt for st galls v St. John's. Think it's a toss of coin.
Keep any eye on fixtures as clubs will change times this weekend.
What's up at Rossa?
Anyone heard anything from hannahstown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on April 16, 2014, 08:29:38 PM
Rossa game is at 2 on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 09:02:05 PM
Well that proves my point quicker than ever!
MR2 post definite time & day for your fixture please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 09:20:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 09:02:05 PM
Well that proves my point quicker than ever!
MR2 post definite time & day for your fixture please.

It's at 6, I'll be in Tenerife tucking into me dinner and having a few beers at the all inclusive hotel!! Johnnies should be too strong for us  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
Expect a classy crowd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2014, 09:46:44 PM
 ;D very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2014, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
Expect a classy crowd

I'll be on best behaviour. Saving it for Stag in Spain the following weekend!! Boom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2014, 09:38:46 PM
Expect a classy crowd

;D !!!
I will be bringing my ear muffs for sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 19, 2014, 09:06:13 PM
Good win for St Galls over St Johns today 1-14 to 0-14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2014, 02:06:49 PM
I only saw the 2nd half which st galls seemed to be physically stronger (on the ball) and St. John's hurling was majorly disappointing I would have assumed they'd have been better prepared.
Well done milltown a big boost. Hard work pays off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
Decent exciting game if not exactly championship quality there at sarsfields.
Incredible result against the cushendall reserves!
The team cushendall fielded is not sarsfields problem and fair play to them on a great win!
Some terrible stuff shouted from "supporters" should not tarnish some great effort on the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 20, 2014, 05:43:47 PM
We beat Portaferry by 4 without Neal and Clarkey who are not allowed to play because they start next week for Antrim (ridiculous)

I see on the county results that Sarsfields beat Cushendall, Ballycran beat Loughgiel by 7, Dunloy beat Ballygalget by 4. Great results for St Galls and Sarsfields, even if Cushendall and St Johns had to field weakened teams at the request of Kevin Ryan.

Important to get points on the board early. A couple of weeks off now until the next round of fixtures on 11th May.

May head up to watch Carey V Glenariff on Wednesday night to see a bit of hurling in the good weather. Should be worth watching.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 20, 2014, 06:08:16 PM
Don't start me on club players not being allowed to play - f**king insanity.
And more fool them also.
For what?
A routine round robin series then beat by a strong team and a routine play-off.
Big deal.
And our whole club scene suffers as a result. And the vast majority of club hurlers and supporters suffer as a result.
But it's all worthwhile - sure it's worked for ages - we're so successful at inter county level aren't we?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
Absolutely disgusted that what went on at the Lamh Dhearg game has been brushed over. The powers at be better throw the book at the country club and player. Only put on about five statuses in 4 years but horrified
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
Decent exciting game if not exactly championship quality there at sarsfields.
Incredible result against the cushendall reserves!
The team cushendall fielded is not sarsfields problem and fair play to them on a great win!
Some terrible stuff shouted from "supporters" should not tarnish some great effort on the pitch.

You have changed your tune last year !   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Lamh dhearg player was left blind in one eye , eye ruptured by opponent hitting him with but of stick through viser.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2014, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 20, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
Decent exciting game if not exactly championship quality there at sarsfields.
Incredible result against the cushendall reserves!
The team cushendall fielded is not sarsfields problem and fair play to them on a great win!
Some terrible stuff shouted from "supporters" should not tarnish some great effort on the pitch.

You have changed your tune last year !   ;)

Ooops! You got me!
Yes I completely contradicted myself!
Maybe it's because I think sarsfields still will go down no matter - of maybe it's city bias!
So it doesn't affect "the integrity of the league".
But either way - mea culpa!
Wouldn't like to owe you money minder!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 21, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Lamh dhearg player was left blind in one eye , eye ruptured by opponent hitting him with but of stick through viser.
I hope that poor lad sues the perpetrator nevermind him being banned for life as he should be. Sickening!! Someone loosing their house might calm one or two down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
So were Lamh Dhearg playing Glenarm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2014, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
So were Lamh Dhearg playing Glenarm?
Yes in Glenarm I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 21, 2014, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 21, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Lamh dhearg player was left blind in one eye , eye ruptured by opponent hitting him with but of stick through viser.
I hope that poor lad sues the perpetrator nevermind him being banned for life as he should be. Sickening!! Someone loosing their house might calm one or two down.

Couldn't agree more. This might be the seriously unfortunate incident that goes the full way that shows that there is no place for sheer unadulterated violence on the hurling/Gaelic field. Now I wasn't at the match nor did I see the incident but if it was with the butt and some poor fella has been blinded he deserves to do time as well as be taken for damages.

Too many still go out on the field with an agenda/chip on their shoulders rather than buy into what a privilege it should feel like representing your club/community.

Throw the book at the perpetrator.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2014, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: Glensman on April 21, 2014, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 21, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Lamh dhearg player was left blind in one eye , eye ruptured by opponent hitting him with but of stick through viser.
I hope that poor lad sues the perpetrator nevermind him being banned for life as he should be. Sickening!! Someone loosing their house might calm one or two down.

Couldn't agree more. This might be the seriously unfortunate incident that goes the full way that shows that there is no place for sheer unadulterated violence on the hurling/Gaelic field. Now I wasn't at the match nor did I see the incident but if it was with the butt and some poor fella has been blinded he deserves to do time as well as be taken for damages.

Too many still go out on the field with an agenda/chip on their shoulders rather than buy into what a privilege it should feel like representing your club/community.

Throw the book at the perpetrator.
Agree with all of this if it was a deliberate strike. Are there any first hand reports?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 11:54:30 PM
I think there's a big story on this in county antrim post tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2014, 07:30:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2014, 11:54:30 PM
I think there's a big story on this in county antrim post tomorrow.

I'll take it as gospel if it's printed by that rag.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2014, 11:34:02 AM
Quote from: Glensman on April 21, 2014, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 21, 2014, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on April 21, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
Lamh dhearg player was left blind in one eye , eye ruptured by opponent hitting him with but of stick through viser.
I hope that poor lad sues the perpetrator nevermind him being banned for life as he should be. Sickening!! Someone loosing their house might calm one or two down.

Couldn't agree more. This might be the seriously unfortunate incident that goes the full way that shows that there is no place for sheer unadulterated violence on the hurling/Gaelic field. Now I wasn't at the match nor did I see the incident but if it was with the butt and some poor fella has been blinded he deserves to do time as well as be taken for damages.

Too many still go out on the field with an agenda/chip on their shoulders rather than buy into what a privilege it should feel like representing your club/community.

Throw the book at the perpetrator.

I agree. If what we are lead to believe was true then it has nothing to do with hurling - it was common assault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
I was told a version of events from a neutral who was at the game. According to him, Lamh Dearg were playing very dirty and doing a serious amount of mouthing throughout the game. The player who got the eye injury was playing very dirty on the Glenarm lad who ended up eventually retaliating. The Glenarm player was apparently being struck by the hurl off the ball constantly and an attempted headbutt as well. I'm not excusing the strike to the eye because it sounds a rough one but according to this lad who told the story, there was only so much shite Glenarm could put up with until there was some sort of retaliation. Before the strike to the eye occured, there was a scuffle and one Glenarm lad almost had his ear pulled off him. Its apparently a very serious injury as well

Again, I'm not excusing anything here but there is always something with the city teams. The majority of them are dirty, mouthing bastards and there are always going to be incidents like this until they stop playing such f**king dirty hurling. U16 final last year? It needs to be clamped down. Glenarm are no angels either but its funny how all the country teams can play good hard hurling against each other but that just isn't possible against the city teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 22, 2014, 05:08:59 PM
A very broad accusation there against all city teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
I'm not accusing all city teams. There are a few who can hurl away. Good, hard hurling and clean but the majority in my experience are just mouths and only out to play as dirty as they possibly can. The likes of St Galls and Rossa can hurl away and no problems at all but the rest just can't handle it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
I was told a version of events from a neutral who was at the game. According to him, Lamh Dearg were playing very dirty and doing a serious amount of mouthing throughout the game. The player who got the eye injury was playing very dirty on the Glenarm lad who ended up eventually retaliating. The Glenarm player was apparently being struck by the hurl off the ball constantly and an attempted headbutt as well. I'm not excusing the strike to the eye because it sounds a rough one but according to this lad who told the story, there was only so much shite Glenarm could put up with until there was some sort of retaliation. Before the strike to the eye occured, there was a scuffle and one Glenarm lad almost had his ear pulled off him. Its apparently a very serious injury as well

Again, I'm not excusing anything here but there is always something with the city teams. The majority of them are dirty, mouthing b**tards and there are always going to be incidents like this until they stop playing such f**king dirty hurling. U16 final last year? It needs to be clamped down. Glenarm are no angels either but its funny how all the country teams can play good hard hurling against each other but that just isn't possible against the city teams

That's hilarious!
I'd love to hear your opinions on the moon landings and JFK or 9/11.
What a w**ker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 22, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 22, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
I was told a version of events from a neutral who was at the game. According to him, Lamh Dearg were playing very dirty and doing a serious amount of mouthing throughout the game. The player who got the eye injury was playing very dirty on the Glenarm lad who ended up eventually retaliating. The Glenarm player was apparently being struck by the hurl off the ball constantly and an attempted headbutt as well. I'm not excusing the strike to the eye because it sounds a rough one but according to this lad who told the story, there was only so much shite Glenarm could put up with until there was some sort of retaliation. Before the strike to the eye occured, there was a scuffle and one Glenarm lad almost had his ear pulled off him. Its apparently a very serious injury as well

Again, I'm not excusing anything here but there is always something with the city teams. The majority of them are dirty, mouthing b**tards and there are always going to be incidents like this until they stop playing such f**king dirty hurling. U16 final last year? It needs to be clamped down. Glenarm are no angels either but its funny how all the country teams can play good hard hurling against each other but that just isn't possible against the city teams

That's hilarious!
I'd love to hear your opinions on the moon landings and JFK or 9/11.
What a w**ker!


I don't think it's a problem that can be pinpointed by what divisional board you hurl for. As a city hurler, I have played against many a dirty Cnut from belfast and north antrim. I have also managed underage where a few teams from all areas of antrim have been dirty and hurled like thugs, likewise some were a pleasure to play against, win, lose or draw

Your attempt to tar all belfast clubs as thugs and cnuts, is lazy and a cheap shot. From a lot of years hurling at prob every ground in antrim I would say you could say younger and more immature belfast hurlers could be bigger 'slabbers' on the pitch while from a young age I always found the country hurler to be more cute with his words about your family or place of birth. Cute whores'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
Fair enough, that would only be my opinion on it and I'm sure the city lads will have the opposite view in some cases. It has just been my experience of hurling in Antrim. I'm no meaning to offend anyone here or anything and certainly not excusing whatever happened in the game the other day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
In reference to the lamb dearg glenarm as someone who was in attendance at the match alot of facts havent been told.
The reason the 18 year old swung out at the player who is in his 30s according to the newspaper,
Is because the glenarm player recieved a head button on his way down the the Field and with his back turned facing the ball he was bit and held onto on his ear which has been put on the refs report this is when he swung around possible mean to hit the player but obviously not cause such severe injury. I believe both the player and club have wished him all the beat and a speedy recovery.

Again iam in no way defending or trying to say what was done isin anyway right just stating facts, idont believe the fact of were lamh dearg are based has anything to do with it tho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
I think everyone needs to stop posting there 3rd hand info from "a man that knew a man", the incident is a serious one and both lads don't need this s*** going on, I hope it will all be dealt with in the manner it deserves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
I think everyone needs to stop posting there 3rd hand info from "a man that knew a man", the incident is a serious one and both lads don't need this s*** going on, I hope it will all be dealt with in the manner it deserves.

Very true - but hearing these sob stories about the lovely little lads from the glens who just wanted a game of hurling being driven to this by corner boys from Belfast is fascinating.
Or depressing.
A lad had lost an eye - that the fact we know.
And yet some of the north Antrim posts are just an unfortunate reflection of myopia - it's just daily mail style writing. Pathetic.
Best wishes to the injured lad - and hopefully those poor glens boys can be left in peace to play their games like gentlemen without the violent city folk - with one eye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on April 23, 2014, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 23, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
I think everyone needs to stop posting there 3rd hand info from "a man that knew a man", the incident is a serious one and both lads don't need this s*** going on, I hope it will all be dealt with in the manner it deserves.

Very true - but hearing these sob stories about the lovely little lads from the glens who just wanted a game of hurling being driven to this by corner boys from Belfast is fascinating.
Or depressing.
A lad had lost an eye - that the fact we know.
And yet some of the north Antrim posts are just an unfortunate reflection of myopia - it's just daily mail style writing. Pathetic.
Best wishes to the injured lad - and hopefully those poor glens boys can be left in peace to play their games like gentlemen without the violent city folk - with one eye.

Heard this myopic shite from you before when you were defending the McCooey U16s.  Who was awarded the U16 B final and why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2014, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on April 23, 2014, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 23, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 23, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
I think everyone needs to stop posting there 3rd hand info from "a man that knew a man", the incident is a serious one and both lads don't need this s*** going on, I hope it will all be dealt with in the manner it deserves.

Very true - but hearing these sob stories about the lovely little lads from the glens who just wanted a game of hurling being driven to this by corner boys from Belfast is fascinating.
Or depressing.
A lad had lost an eye - that the fact we know.
And yet some of the north Antrim posts are just an unfortunate reflection of myopia - it's just daily mail style writing. Pathetic.
Best wishes to the injured lad - and hopefully those poor glens boys can be left in peace to play their games like gentlemen without the violent city folk - with one eye.

Heard this myopic shite from you before when you were defending the McCooey U16s.  Who was awarded the U16 B final and why?

Nonsense.
Post a quote from me then?
Not once did I defend the actions of the Belfast side that day - I took exception to all city teams being slandered because of it.
Nice attempt to change the subject however - a role in unionist "aye but what about them"
Politics awaits you.

Let's take geography out of it:
Player A hits player B in the face with a hurling stick off the ball.
It results in player B losing an eye.
Player A should be punished to the maximum.
End of story.
Anyone who disagrees with that has no place near our game either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
The fact the other player was locked onto his ear, with him also needing hospital treatment, changes all that especially when there was no intent to strike through the face guard altho maybe intrnt to strike out. Its just an incident that seems to have  left a lad in a very bad perdicument its up to the county board now to sort it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
The fact the other player was locked onto his ear, with him also needing hospital treatment, changes all that especially when there was no intent to strike through the face guard altho maybe intrnt to strike out. Its just an incident that seems to have  left a lad in a very bad perdicument its up to the county board now to sort it out.

I find it hard to understand how someone can be biting an ear while the other person can simultaneously strike them thru a face guard with a hurl? Interesting. Really.
And needless to say the Lamh dearg lads have an entirely different view of things - they must all be terrible cannibal lying thugs from the city. Hope that glenarm lads hurl wasn't hurt anyway such nice folk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Only going by what was seen and the ref report sent to county board and clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Quote from: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Only going by what was seen and the ref report sent to county board and clubs.

I'll wait and see if the ref can explain how that's physically possible to strike a hurl thru the face-guard of a man who is biting your ear then?
And I'll wait to see if we're at the stage where a deliberate strike with the hurl, off the ball, resulting in the loss of an eye, can be so easily mitigated.
That city fecker tryin to steal a nice north Antrim hurl with his eye eh.
Jesus lads just a f**king grip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 12:22:17 AM
IF and I really do mean IF someone in an unprovoked attack, bit my ear and I had a stick in my hand, I'm not sure what I would do, but Im sure at that moment I would feel he'd deserve whatever misfortune came to him. Regrets I'm sure would come later. Terrible stuff.

Hate to see intentionally loose/dirty hurling at juvenile especially. A sign the coaching standards are poor if respect isn't drilled into a young hurler from the get go.


Never heard of anything like what has been conveyed, on a hurling pitch.

Btw...this is no justification. The offending player will have to be dealt with regardless of what justification he might feel he had to react.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 24, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 23, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
Casement Social Club are running a bus to Ballycastle on Sunday.
£10 return which includes a drink in the club when the bus arrives back.

Leaves Casement at 12:45
Leaves Ballycastle at 17:00

Tickets available from the club.

HS can you guarantee the club will be open or will there be a blue bag crowd outside casement lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Quote from: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Only going by what was seen and the ref report sent to county board and clubs.

I'll wait and see if the ref can explain how that's physically possible to strike a hurl thru the face-guard of a man who is biting your ear then?
And I'll wait to see if we're at the stage where a deliberate strike with the hurl, off the ball, resulting in the loss of an eye, can be so easily mitigated.
That city fecker tryin to steal a nice north Antrim hurl with his eye eh.
Jesus lads just a f**king grip.

Seriously ... One or maybe two people have came on here and talked about city teams. You have no idea what happened and nor do I. Just defend the city team sure. I won't defend either of them because I don't know what happened but the end result is a horrendous one. You are constantly on here with your conspiracies against city teams too so maybe it is you who needs to get a grip.

It will all come out in the wash and whatever happened should never be allowed to happen again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 10:07:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Quote from: Northgael1 on April 23, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Only going by what was seen and the ref report sent to county board and clubs.

I'll wait and see if the ref can explain how that's physically possible to strike a hurl thru the face-guard of a man who is biting your ear then?
And I'll wait to see if we're at the stage where a deliberate strike with the hurl, off the ball, resulting in the loss of an eye, can be so easily mitigated.
That city fecker tryin to steal a nice north Antrim hurl with his eye eh.
Jesus lads just a f**king grip.

Seriously ... One or maybe two people have came on here and talked about city teams. You have no idea what happened and nor do I. Just defend the city team sure. I won't defend either of them because I don't know what happened but the end result is a horrendous one. You are constantly on here with your conspiracies against city teams too so maybe it is you who needs to get a grip.

It will all come out in the wash and whatever happened should never be allowed to happen again.

I think you will find I openly talk of my city bias and often with tongue in cheek.
It's doesn't extend to Blanket slandering of glens people - nor attempting to mitigate violence.
Hardly comparable so that's a mute point from you.

As I said the hannahstown men have a different version but what we do know - as I have stated - is that a player struck another with a hurl off the ball so badly he lost an eye. Simple fact.
It's a sad reflection on anyone to try to mitigate this - let alone suggest it's a city/glens thing.
That's what some posts did - and I make no apologies for calling it the pathetic drivel that it is.

Someday maybe one of those posters might have the common sense to stop trying to add "ifs and buts" into this situation and acknowledge that nothing can condone the action - much less the infantile attempt to associate it with where the teams are from.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 10:07:18 AM

As I said the hannahstown men have a different version but what we do know - as I have stated - is that a player struck another with a hurl off the ball so badly he lost an eye. Simple fact.


Pathetic.

Aye.... never mind there being a possibility of a prelude to your "Simple  :o fact"

No harm in being mindful that there could have been and that the tragic incident wouldn't have occurred without a series of events prior. You see it up and down the land...young boys being encouraged to up the anti in the physicality stakes and it translates for many into pure dirt. Someone gets a bad injury. Is it only the perpetrator to blame? In my eyes no. I blame the mentors of the aggressors for not clarifying to them what being a tough hurler is and that an aggression should be focused on winning the ball and that's it. Demanding discipline on a hurling pitch is a huge part of the coaching effort. There's a slight bit of overlap (not much) between a tough and a dirty hurler, but a hurler "only" interested in inflicting injury on an opponent is a pure coward in my eyes. I'd love to know what enjoyment they are getting from playing the game. Is bragging rights down the pub enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Ok then I will give in to the PATHETIC whataboutery of the glans posters - IF there was prior incidents then they should also be dealt with. But that's obvious!

What is also obvious is the hitting a man with a hurling stick in the face off the ball is abhorrent!
How many Feckin times!

Maybe some of you might get this into your heads and quit searching for excuses.
Let alone slandering all city teams as a result of of one if them being assaulted so badly to lose an eye!

Can you even see the sh*te posted?

A fella has been assaulted and lost an eye and most points are criticising Lamh dearg!
It's daily mail style blaming the poor for the economy failing. If u can't see your own myopic stereotyping then feck it. Take a look in the mirror - an honest one.

How would u feel if one of your own was subject to this action?
Let me guess? "One of my own wouldn't have provoked it"
Utterly pathetic how some posters can't recognise the b*ll*cks they've posted.

Quit trying to mitigate what was a disgusting incident and for which the perpitraitor deserves the maximum punishment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: No Soloing on April 24, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Havent posted in a while - but I need some help.
I am working on an app that locates GAA clubs in Antrim, gets directions from your location. You can share/email directions. Its based on an app that I developed locating county grounds (http://bit.ly/1rjZeIT)

I have data on most clubs but need some info on where a few play their home games. Can anyone help on the following clubs?
Ardoyne - do they play at the Criky pitch, Cliftonville Rd?
Pearses
St Comgalls
St Malachys - Cherryvale?
Also, where are the new Belfast Shamrocks hurling club playing at?

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2014, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: No Soloing on April 24, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Havent posted in a while - but I need some help.
I am working on an app that locates GAA clubs in Antrim, gets directions from your location. You can share/email directions. Its based on an app that I developed locating county grounds (http://bit.ly/1rjZeIT)

I have data on most clubs but need some info on where a few play their home games. Can anyone help on the following clubs?
Ardoyne - do they play at the Criky pitch, Cliftonville Rd?
Pearses
St Comgalls
St Malachys - Cherryvale?
Also, where are the new Belfast Shamrocks hurling club playing at?

Thanks

Pearses I don't think have a pitch or compete any more?

Ardoyne - yes Cliftonville.

St Malachys are Cherryvale yes.

St Comgalls didn't have a pitch when I played so not so sure.

Can't answer on shamrocks as not sure.

QuoteOk then I will give in to the PATHETIC whataboutery of the glans posters
Yes mate blame the glans posters. There you go again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quit trying to mitigate what was a disgusting incident and for which the perpitraitor deserves the maximum punishment.

Speak up now anyone who doesn't think the perpetrator deserves a very very heavy punishment?

I think he does

Care to name who you believe doesn't btdtgtt?

As far as I could see all people were doing was contextualizing the incident rather than defending anyone. It wasn't obvious to anyone I would guess that you were prepared to accept that a prior incident could have played a part in this terrible injury (and that is not justifying anything). Now you've acknowledged that, we're ready to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quit trying to mitigate what was a disgusting incident and for which the perpitraitor deserves the maximum punishment.

Speak up now anyone who doesn't think the perpetrator deserves a very very heavy punishment?

I think he does

Care to name who you believe doesn't btdtgtt?

As far as I could see all people were doing was contextualizing the incident rather than defending anyone. It wasn't obvious to anyone I would guess that you were prepared to accept that a prior incident could have played a part in this terrible injury (and that is not justifying anything). Now you've acknowledged that, we're ready to move on.


Btdjjt

You seem to be taking your anger out on everyone from the glens
There has only been one eye witness on here and his account would suggest that the derg player wasn't exactly concentrating on the ball
But there's no excuse for what he received
My guess, it was a retaliation that went horribly wrong
I really feel for the player who has lost his eye
And to lesser extent the perp( I don't think he will be feeling to good about it now) as he has to accept he has half blinded someone for the rest of there life
It a sad state of affairs and coming on here berating and stereotyping everyone from north antrim is out of order as was the other poster from our neck of the woods doing the opposite
It's not the first time you have taken a sad for antrim hurling in general scenario and attempted a us and them  argument
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 24, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Both teams/clubs need to be held accountable for this. Doesn't matter who hit who etc they are equally as bad as each other. Now that its out in the open can anyone provide names of the lamb dearg player and the Glenarm fella that hit him?

Surely this incident can't be swept under the carpet like the U16 final last year as I see the Belfast Gaels and Glenshesk have games in the same competition this week! Surely both should have been heavily dealt with and banned from competition for a year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.

So we all should get the broad brush out every time half witted comments are made by someone with a history of being half witted?

....Or should people with a bit of sense have a bit more sense?

I'm for the latter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2014, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.

I did acknowledge this in my post, apparently so initiated the argument and btdgtt retaliated. Bit of a keyboard version of what happened last weekend lets say. He could even say he was provoked into his post. Imm from north antrim and I found his post offensive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Northgael1 on April 24, 2014, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 24, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Now that its out in the open can anyone provide names of the lamb dearg player and the Glenarm fella that hit him?

I dont thnk naming either player is necesariy im sure neither want there name across the internet

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.

So we all should get the broad brush out every time half witted comments are made by someone with a history of being half witted?

....Or should people with a bit of sense have a bit more sense?

I'm for the latter

So am I, but sometimes gobshites who peddle the same ignorant line without recourse think they've garnered some sort of tacit approval if no one takes them to task on it.
At the end of the day a lad has lost the sight in one eye during a game of hurling and no on here knows exactly how it happened. The location of the two clubs involved is pretty secondary to that but some are very quick to jump to conclusions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2014, 02:44:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.

So we all should get the broad brush out every time half witted comments are made by someone with a history of being half witted?

....Or should people with a bit of sense have a bit more sense?

I'm for the latter

So am I, but sometimes gobshites who peddle the same ignorant line without recourse think they've garnered some sort of tacit approval if no one takes them to task on it.
At the end of the day a lad has lost the sight in one eye during a game of hurling and no on here knows exactly how it happened. The location of the two clubs involved is pretty secondary to that but some are very quick to jump to conclusions

That's fair comment, in the general scheme of things the two clubs locations doesn't matter and to a lesser extent the two clubs don't matter either. It's the two individuals represening there clubs in a unfit manner. How is more at fault is better left to people who witnessed the events
But if some poster comes on here with a broad brush and attacks a certain area is it appropriate for a seasoned poster to retaliate with the same mindset
Both parties posting where out of order and neither should be defended
I would have thought one of them should know better though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on April 24, 2014, 03:30:47 PM
What I stated in my post is my own personal opinion and I am well aware of the fact that the vast majority of people in both North Antrim and Belfast will disagree with me and think I am a complete gobshite. And bdtttgt had every right to criticise me but he keeps going as if the entire north Antrim shares this opinion. They don't, it is one persons opinion on an internet forum ffs. But it is based on my experiences with most Belfast teams apart from a couple of exceptions. I just think all the mouthing on the sideline and the dirty hurling on the field raises too much tension in a lot of games and will lead to incidents like this one. My info is only based on what I've been told from that were there and they say that the lad who commited the offence that caused the eye injury was being harrassed the entire game and apparently had his ear clamped onto by the Lahm Dhearg player. The Glenarm player then swung the hurl back and now we have this unfortunate injury. I wasn't there so I can't confirm this but its what I've been told. The ref has apparently mentioned this in his report and everything will be dealt with accordingly by the county board

I wish the LD player the very best. Is he definitely blinded in that eye then for life? I really hope not

I also hope the young Glenarm player can move on from this. If someone was clamped onto your ear, you don't how you would react. I seriously doubt he intended to cause that kind of injury
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
No doubt there are poorly coached sides who are encouraged to "compete". If they lack the skill to do this legally it resorts to brutality and intimidation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 24, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
No doubt there are poorly coached sides who are encouraged to "compete". If they lack the skill to do this legally it resorts to brutality and intimidation

Yeah, Glenarm and Lamd Dearg being two of them........................................ Have been for quite some time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
No doubt there are poorly coached sides who are encouraged to "compete". If they lack the skill to do this legally it resorts to brutality and intimidation

There's always be a bit of intimidation in any sort of contact sport, but I think there's a line you do not cross, such as biting, headbutting (even if its now futile with everyone wearing helmets), and striking, shafting in and around the head and face area.

FWIW, there's always been a train of thought in the Ards clubs that the Antrim CB have historically been far more lenient with suspensions than their Down counterparts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 24, 2014, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
In all fairness to btdtgtt the broad brush used by Apparently So set in motion the them and us mentality in the first place.

Thank god for a neutral, was waiting on someone saying that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 24, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 22, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 22, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on April 22, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
I was told a version of events from a neutral who was at the game. According to him, Lamh Dearg were playing very dirty and doing a serious amount of mouthing throughout the game. The player who got the eye injury was playing very dirty on the Glenarm lad who ended up eventually retaliating. The Glenarm player was apparently being struck by the hurl off the ball constantly and an attempted headbutt as well. I'm not excusing the strike to the eye because it sounds a rough one but according to this lad who told the story, there was only so much shite Glenarm could put up with until there was some sort of retaliation. Before the strike to the eye occured, there was a scuffle and one Glenarm lad almost had his ear pulled off him. Its apparently a very serious injury as well

Again, I'm not excusing anything here but there is always something with the city teams. The majority of them are dirty, mouthing b**tards and there are always going to be incidents like this until they stop playing such f**king dirty hurling. U16 final last year? It needs to be clamped down. Glenarm are no angels either but its funny how all the country teams can play good hard hurling against each other but that just isn't possible against the city teams

That's hilarious!
I'd love to hear your opinions on the moon landings and JFK or 9/11.
What a w**ker!


I don't think it's a problem that can be pinpointed by what divisional board you hurl for. As a city hurler, I have played against many a dirty Cnut from belfast and north antrim. I have also managed underage where a few teams from all areas of antrim have been dirty and hurled like thugs, likewise some were a pleasure to play against, win, lose or draw

Your attempt to tar all belfast clubs as thugs and cnuts, is lazy and a cheap shot. From a lot of years hurling at prob every ground in antrim I would say you could say younger and more immature belfast hurlers could be bigger 'slabbers' on the pitch while from a young age I always found the country hurler to be more cute with his words about your family or place of birth. Cute whores'

I said this after the post by "app so".. And the point still stands that a dirty or badly coached hurler does not come from a particular area, he is what he is. But I know from wearing a helmet that you would need some size of gnashers to not only get at the opponents ear under his helmet rim, but to get your teeth through your own visor....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on April 24, 2014, 04:31:03 PM
Suppose so  ;D

As I said, I am only going by what I've been told but the Glenarm lad has a serious injury to his ear. Part of it was nearly ripped off apparently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Is that what happened youse agin Lavey?
;D

It was  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 03:41:43 PM
No doubt there are poorly coached sides who are encouraged to "compete". If they lack the skill to do this legally it resorts to brutality and intimidation
Is that what happened youse agin Lavey?
;D

We'll try and figure it out fir yourself
How many other times was thR dunloy team involved in something like that
And they played a lot of competitive matches
This is one game I can give a detailed a point of and the opposing team where a disgrace that day
But something tells me your just trying to be a smart ass
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quit trying to mitigate what was a disgusting incident and for which the perpitraitor deserves the maximum punishment.

Speak up now anyone who doesn't think the perpetrator deserves a very very heavy punishment?

I think he does

Care to name who you believe doesn't btdtgtt?

As far as I could see all people were doing was contextualizing the incident rather than defending anyone. It wasn't obvious to anyone I would guess that you were prepared to accept that a prior incident could have played a part in this terrible injury (and that is not justifying anything). Now you've acknowledged that, we're ready to move on.

It's ridiculously obvious that I know everyone who did wrong should be punished. Didn't need staying at all. I was hardly going to be suggesting otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 11:21:41 AM
Quit trying to mitigate what was a disgusting incident and for which the perpitraitor deserves the maximum punishment.

Speak up now anyone who doesn't think the perpetrator deserves a very very heavy punishment?

I think he does

Care to name who you believe doesn't btdtgtt?

As far as I could see all people were doing was contextualizing the incident rather than defending anyone. It wasn't obvious to anyone I would guess that you were prepared to accept that a prior incident could have played a part in this terrible injury (and that is not justifying anything). Now you've acknowledged that, we're ready to move on.


Btdjjt

You seem to be taking your anger out on everyone from the glens
There has only been one eye witness on here and his account would suggest that the derg player wasn't exactly concentrating on the ball
But there's no excuse for what he received
My guess, it was a retaliation that went horribly wrong
I really feel for the player who has lost his eye
And to lesser extent the perp( I don't think he will be feeling to good about it now) as he has to accept he has half blinded someone for the rest of there life
It a sad state of affairs and coming on here berating and stereotyping everyone from north antrim is out of order as was the other poster from our neck of the woods doing the opposite
It's not the first time you have taken a sad for antrim hurling in general scenario and attempted a us and them  argument

Good god of almighty read my posts - I was arguing exactly that it shouldn't be seen as a glens v city scenario. When I mentioned the glens it was a specific response to specific comments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
Ok I read the rest of the posts catching up after those two responses - I'm a lot more content that people can see where I was coming from.
Some of the initial posts were just totally out of line on both the specific striking incident and geography.

So I will drop that.

Two minor points:

That Dunloy side were never dirty HS stop winding up! Incredible side and the Lavey thing a one off.

JC - to say the Antrim board are more lenient on Antrim players? I think when down lads come in front of county board compared to Antrim (particularly county) players - it's like the black man and the white colour worker in Texas!
I think we all know a few concrete examples!

Can't see anything other than an easy win for Antrim v Westmeath.
Especially with all those well rested players that didn't play for their clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:28:48 PM
I know HS - especially when you are getting our county support to games with buses and generating money in the social club.
Some people have no respect!
Here's my smiley  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 24, 2014, 09:26:12 PM
FFS, every hoor and her husband in here cutting shite outta one half of the county or the other and I'm the one gets toul off!

I even put a smiley in!

I spotted it big lad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
Ok I read the rest of the posts catching up after those two responses - I'm a lot more content that people can see where I was coming from.
Some of the initial posts were just totally out of line on both the specific striking incident and geography.

So I will drop that.

Two minor points:

That Dunloy side were never dirty HS stop winding up! Incredible side and the Lavey thing a one off.

JC - to say the Antrim board are more lenient on Antrim players? I think when down lads come in front of county board compared to Antrim (particularly county) players - it's like the black man and the white colour worker in Texas!
I think we all know a few concrete examples!

Can't see anything other than an easy win for Antrim v Westmeath.
Especially with all those well rested players that didn't play for their clubs!

Well, county players are a different scenario all together and we could all throw out examples of miscarriages of justice   ;) .
My point being is that the generic club hurler gets sent off for dangerous play or something along those lines, Down CB would be more likely to throw out a three month suspension whereas in Antrim you'd be more inclined to get a month. Just my tuppence worth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2014, 10:17:19 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 25, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
Ok I read the rest of the posts catching up after those two responses - I'm a lot more content that people can see where I was coming from.
Some of the initial posts were just totally out of line on both the specific striking incident and geography.

So I will drop that.

Two minor points:

That Dunloy side were never dirty HS stop winding up! Incredible side and the Lavey thing a one off.

JC - to say the Antrim board are more lenient on Antrim players? I think when down lads come in front of county board compared to Antrim (particularly county) players - it's like the black man and the white colour worker in Texas!
I think we all know a few concrete examples!

Can't see anything other than an easy win for Antrim v Westmeath.
Especially with all those well rested players that didn't play for their clubs!

Well, county players are a different scenario all together and we could all throw out examples of miscarriages of justice   ;) .
My point being is that the generic club hurler gets sent off for dangerous play or something along those lines, Down CB would be more likely to throw out a three month suspension whereas in Antrim you'd be more inclined to get a month. Just my tuppence worth.

Is there separate bodies for running hurling & football in Co Down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2014, 10:41:29 AM
Not really, the disciplinary stuff is all the same committee and all hurling matters are allegedly discussed at full CB meetings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
Kevin Ryan gurning again. This time about the round robin element of the leinster championship. Apparently it's not what "Antrim signed up to".  So what? Its the same round robin that the other teams involved have to play in. Maybe he wants every game played in ballycastle? Would that please him? I doubt it. Either play in Leinster or get out of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
Kevin Ryan gurning again. This time about the round robin element of the leinster championship. Apparently it's not what "Antrim signed up to".  So what? Its the same round robin that the other teams involved have to play in. Maybe he wants every game played in ballycastle? Would that please him? I doubt it. Either play in Leinster or get out of it.

I don't know what's worse Kevin Ryan gurning or you gurning about all things Antrim
Think I'll go for the latter

As they say over your way
Quet your whinging
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
Kevin Ryan gurning again. This time about the round robin element of the leinster championship. Apparently it's not what "Antrim signed up to".  So what? Its the same round robin that the other teams involved have to play in. Maybe he wants every game played in ballycastle? Would that please him? I doubt it. Either play in Leinster or get out of it.

I don't know what's worse Kevin Ryan gurning or you gurning about all things 'kevin ryan'
Think I'll go for the latter

As they say over your way
Quet your whinging

Fixed that for you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 25, 2014, 11:43:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
Watched our minors v St Johns tonight. We won handy enough but some of the hurling was very impressive. Who are the better teams at minor this year? I suppose, who won U16 two years ago? Can't remember.
Cushendall will be the tem to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2014, 11:44:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 25, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2014, 06:49:24 PM
Kevin Ryan gurning again. This time about the round robin element of the leinster championship. Apparently it's not what "Antrim signed up to".  So what? Its the same round robin that the other teams involved have to play in. Maybe he wants every game played in ballycastle? Would that please him? I doubt it. Either play in Leinster or get out of it.

I don't know what's worse Kevin Ryan gurning or you gurning about all things 'kevin ryan'
Think I'll go for the latter

As they say over your way
Quet your whinging

Fixed that for you!

I was gonna type exactly that but mine covers having a crack at mc manus and not placating Lg prima Dona's

Hard station is your beating St. John's at minor then you should be fit for anyone in north antrim
Good minor team and last year feile success Rossa  looking good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
Jesus lads I'm entitled to an opinion. It's no different for Antrim than the other teams involved. It's embarrassing, again.

I think the round robin is a good idea. Surely it would be better to go into the championship proper with three or four wins under your belt. It can only be good for the oul confidence after all. If Antrim don't win through then they aren't good enough. He's the one always gurning about not having enough competition. Well, there ya go, there's your competition. Get on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 26, 2014, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
Watched our minors v St Johns tonight. We won handy enough but some of the hurling was very impressive. Who are the better teams at minor this year? I suppose, who won U16 two years ago? Can't remember.

Hard to tell at minor level but from what I have heard Cushendall will walk the minor championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
For years now we've been hearing Antrim complaining about structures and venues.
It's embarrassing - just get on with it.

Do we want to hand pick who we play, where we play them, and how the competition is run?
Why should every other county jump to our tune?

We weren't happy in ulster so got into Leinster.
We weren't happy with playing away all the time - no we get home games.
We weren't happy with one game and knockout - now round robin & play off.

What in gods name else do we want?
Why should the other counties cater for us when they've their own concerns?

Just get on with it and start winning matches!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 26, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
Jesus lads I'm entitled to an opinion. It's no different for Antrim than the other teams involved. It's embarrassing, again.

I think the round robin is a good idea. Surely it would be better to go into the championship proper with three or four wins under your belt. It can only be good for the oul confidence after all. If Antrim don't win through then they aren't good enough. He's the one always gurning about not having enough competition. Well, there ya go, there's your competition. Get on with it.

Mc manus is saying the same thing as you in Gaelic life
If kevin Ryan is asked something by the press he tells them his view
I don't see anything wrong with round robin but I have no problems with someone who doesn't
I think Ryan is doing a good job and wouldn't look on him as a constant gurner
If he was he should be on here with us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 26, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
Jesus lads I'm entitled to an opinion. It's no different for Antrim than the other teams involved. It's embarrassing, again.

I think the round robin is a good idea. Surely it would be better to go into the championship proper with three or four wins under your belt. It can only be good for the oul confidence after all. If Antrim don't win through then they aren't good enough. He's the one always gurning about not having enough competition. Well, there ya go, there's your competition. Get on with it.

Mc manus is saying the same thing as you in Gaelic life
If kevin Ryan is asked something by the press he tells them his view
I don't see anything wrong with round robin but I have no problems with someone who doesn't
I think Ryan is doing a good job and wouldn't look on him as a constant gurner
If he was he should be on here with us
Neil and me agree on a few things in the "real world".   ;)

All you have to do is take a look at the interviews Ryan has given in the past few months/years. He gurns about something in most of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Minor championship HS.
Regardless if a city team wins it never converts much to senior?
Still - success of sorts nonetheless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 27, 2014, 12:21:31 AM
Oh so huffy!
I said it was success if any team win it!
But I would love Rossa & StJohns to solve the long standing problem of bringing teams from minor to senior - so many issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 27, 2014, 12:37:42 AM
Yes success but surely the main function of underage grade is to supply players to senior - which is where our city clubs seem to fall down.
We all know the reasons and it's not thru a lack of effort on the clubs part.
Who is taking Rossa minors?
By the way I've no such pockets - at the moment just loose change!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on April 27, 2014, 12:52:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2014, 12:24:49 AM
FWIW at this stage. Casement Social Club are running a bus to Ballycastle tomorrow.

Our County have decided not to promote it. Nice.

That's not to mention that 100% of the club's profits go to Antrim GAA.

Would it not be within their interest to promote the bus?

Sounds like a pile of childer arguing about a school bag in a playground.

Time somebody else came in and sorted this relationship out once and for all.

Kick whoever needs kicked out whenever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 27, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 26, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2014, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 25, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
Watched our minors v St Johns tonight. We won handy enough but some of the hurling was very impressive. Who are the better teams at minor this year? I suppose, who won U16 two years ago? Can't remember.

Hard to tell at minor level but from what I have heard Cushendall will walk the minor championship.
Was asking around today and "Loch gCaol won't be far away" was the message.
they wont be far away but will not prevail regardless from what i have seen so far.


Good stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 27, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
Good days hurling ahead and the weather looking good as well.......going up to watch Carey V Cushendall in the North Antrim lge at 12 and then back into the town to watch Antrim V Westmeath. Cushendall without their county players and Carey coming off a good ACHL win over Glenariff on Wednesday night, so I will go for a Carey and Antrim double.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
been away for a week so missed all the stuff relating to the Glenarm and Lamhs incident, bad stuff altogether and I have no axe to grind regarding the sheep shaggers and chip eaters also ;)

As Skull has mentioned coaches/managers/supporters/da's/ma's/hangeroners have a lot to answer for in some of these games, yes you have to be competitive/tough/strong and whatever else it takes to win ball,  tackle and come out on top but by fcuk lads it should be done within the f**king rules.

I played a Southy game against Lamhs (I'm just using this as a recent example not singling Lamhs out BTW) not so long ago and the young buck that was marking me was sticking tight and being a nuisance, which is fine but after a while he was dragging me/ holding me when going for a ball, this then upgraded to wee slaps when the ball wasn't even near us ffs, told him to wise da fcuk up it was a South Antrim game, needles to say it ended up in a scrap ffs!!

My point is some lads are hyped up to fcuk before a ball is thrown in, some players can't see the difference between hard tackling and dirt, take offence and all hell breaks loose. I hope the lads injury is not as bad as reported and he gets his sight back, regardless of the going on's before the strike, the minute you take aim at someones face with a hurl, expect to do damage. Also when you are giving someone off the ball slaps and the like don't expect someone to just take it, human nature for some people is to just last out, everyone has a breaking point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 03:26:28 PM
Antrim 7-6 up after 15 mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Goal for Westmeath. 1-6 to 0-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 03:28:14 PM
2 quick points. 0-10 to 1-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
0-12 to 1-7 half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:07:16 PM
Wm down to 14 men. 0-15 to 1-9.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:11:41 PM
0-17 to 1-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
0-18 to 2-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
0-19 to 2-10.  10 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Full time. 0-23 to 2-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 27, 2014, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 27, 2014, 04:30:48 PM
Full time. 0-23 to 2-11

Not a great game pJ o Connell MOTM
Young Clark going better
Midfield poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
We were very poor for a lot of that game. Just seemed flat and were lucky that they went to 13.
First one for two yellows was harsh. Ref was dishing cards out for very little. I didn't see what exactly happened for the second one.
Shorty and our two corner men were good. That short puckout caper needs put to bed. We fcuked up every one of them.
A win is a win but we'd need to improve on that big time.

We're obviously lacking in the stickwork and trust needed to do it right and you can sense the old school thinking of the crowd created a nervousness about doing it. The better teams have it in their toolbox though to draw teams out the pitch...I think we need to persevere with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2014, 11:09:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
Other teams can do it. We, as far as I could see, can't. I don't remember it working once. We never got beyond our own 45 with it.
Better teams will punish us for the fluffing and fumbling we're doing in our own full back line.

Not disagreeing with you there. Still think we need to persevere with it medium to long term. You can tell the players are uncomfortable with it but that not to say KR isn't right trying to get them to accept that from a tactical perspective, corner back need to be able to receive a puck out and work the ball out the pitch the odd time in an attempt to draw out the opposition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 28, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
How many scores did Shiels finish with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
ANTRIM: C O'Connell; O McFadden, C McKinley, Ciarán Johnson; E Campbell (0-2), N McAuley, N McManus (0-1); D Hamill (0-1), B McFall; C Carson, P Shiels (0-12, ten frees), S Beatty; C Clarke (0-3), M Donnelly, PJ O Connell (0-3). Subs: A Graffin for S Beatty, C McCann for M Donnelly, S McCrory for B McFall, S McAfee for C Carson, N McKenna (0-1) for D Hamill.

WESTMEATH: P Collins; K Duncan, T Doyle, L Varley, G Greville, A Craig, T Gallagher; C Curley (0-2), E Price (0-3, two frees); R Greville, A Devine, D Gavin, N Conaty, D McNicholas (2-1), N O'Brien (0-5, four frees). Subs: A Clarke for N Conaty, D Lynch for D Gavin.
Referee: F Horgan (Tipperary)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 28, 2014, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 28, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 28, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
We were very poor for a lot of that game. Just seemed flat and were lucky that they went to 13.
First one for two yellows was harsh. Ref was dishing cards out for very little. I didn't see what exactly happened for the second one.
Shorty and our two corner men were good. That short puckout caper needs put to bed. We fcuked up every one of them.
A win is a win but we'd need to improve on that big time.

We're obviously lacking in the stickwork and trust needed to do it right and you can sense the old school thinking of the crowd created a nervousness about doing it. The better teams have it in their toolbox though to draw teams out the pitch...I think we need to persevere with it

I have to agree with Skull that I think we have to have it as an option to keep the opposition honest - although I am usually the first to be roaring "drive it long" at the first sign it isn't working!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
winker? Some goings on behind the scenes all the same. Laughable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
winker? Some goings on behind the scenes all the same. Laughable.

Maybe so, I don't know the ins and outs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
winker? Some goings on behind the scenes all the same. Laughable.

Maybe so, I don't know the ins and outs.
a certain player (not Watson) and KR met and he was asked to attend applegreen. He was then texted three hours later and told that after consulting two senior players and members of the backroom team that he was no longer required to attend. The members and officials of loughgiel gac are not amused to say the least. It won't go away ya know.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 28, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
winker? Some goings on behind the scenes all the same. Laughable.

Maybe so, I don't know the ins and outs.
a certain player (not Watson) and KR met and he was asked to attend applegreen. He was then texted three hours later and told that after consulting two senior players and members of the backroom team that he was no longer required to attend. The members and officials of loughgiel gac are not amused to say the least. It won't go away ya know.  ;)

And so it goes on - and on - and on - and..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 29, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 28, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 05:16:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 28, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Did you hear the one about the ex county superstar having a conversation with a parody account on twitter about the current set up... His nickname is true after all!
winker? Some goings on behind the scenes all the same. Laughable.

Maybe so, I don't know the ins and outs.
a certain player (not Watson) and KR met and he was asked to attend applegreen. He was then texted three hours later and told that after consulting two senior players and members of the backroom team that he was no longer required to attend. The members and officials of loughgiel gac are not amused to say the least. It won't go away ya know.  ;)

And so it goes on - and on - and on - and..........

This sounds a bit suspect, the only player anyone on the team should have a problem with you have mentioned. LG a big parinoid here. Sure isn't young mc faddden on the team with no issues
There's only a couple of other LG lads that anyone would have a problem with and there not up to county standard anyway. The rest of the LG lads come across as sound on and of the pitch
I think ill file this story with the one about watson going to Dublin in BS cabinet till I hear otherwise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2014, 09:44:11 AM
Apparently his presence would "upset the harmony within the squad". Which is nonsense as the fella in question is as sound as they come. But anyway, it's not over and done with yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on April 29, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
Just say who it is and why it isn't over yet instead of trying to be dramatic about it all.
it'll come out soon enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 29, 2014, 10:57:27 AM
Antrim GAA : channel 5 soap opera.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 29, 2014, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2014, 09:44:11 AM
Apparently his presence would "upset the harmony within the squad". Which is nonsense as the fella in question is as sound as they come. But anyway, it's not over and done with yet.

Maybe it's all the lambasting of antrim from LG previously and a lot of  berating by you of KR about trivial things like what he thinks of a round robin series
I have no strong feelings on it but his point of why Wexford and offally didn't have to compete when Laois and antrim either beat them or ran them close holds some substance and shouldn't be classed as gurning
Throw the watson twitter show into the mix and I get the feeling the problems with LG and not antrim
Imm glad young mc faddden is on the the panel and hurling well as it kinda dismisses all these we are being excluded rants

KR seems like a good hurling man and is keen to improve county standards as much as he can
I think this smear campaign hasn't gained any credibility and won't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
SIE has been trying to smear what Kevin Ryan has been trying to do for some time now.

Having met and chatted to him a few time I view him as fine hurling man who knows his own mind and speaks it in a very straight forward plain speaking unoffensive way. He expects commitment and has zero time for pandering which I find a very admirable quality. I see no back doors in the man and why should there be?

SIE is being very introspective and disingenuous with his comments on here. Suits you sir

 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
The lambasting was not of "Antrim" but of some very peculiar goings on behind the closed doors of power within the Antrim hurling set up. I'm posting what I know to be happening. Facts are facts Whether you like them or not. But no matter. Onwards and upwards. Eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 29, 2014, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
The lambasting was not of "Antrim" but of some very peculiar goings on behind the closed doors of power within the Antrim hurling set up. I'm posting what I know to be happening. Facts are facts Whether you like them or not. But no matter. Onwards and upwards. Eh?

Your not really posting what's happening but what your heard was happening
In the general scheme of things it's no biggy. Maybe if you where introspective you might see a common dominator here. Don't see KR or Antrim players :::::GURNING:::::
At every wim

And spare me this will come out soon enough line. Heard it before from you and always turns out to be nothing. I think you like the sound of your own voice to much

Try taking more a leaf out of hardstations book. He has issues with some things in Antrim but saw fit to run a bus to ballycastle to support hurlers
All you want to do is whinge. I think it's fair to say we are all club men first but I like to support the county team when I can
Certainly won't be trying to impose some sort of contempt for them on to others
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
Just a wee reminder that I didn't bring it up. But I'll let it go. It seems I'm out of place on here when showing concern about how our county team is being run. By the way, as I've stated all along, I hope I'm proved wrong about the influence some people have over who plays and who doesn't. The problem is I won't be.

I was there on Sunday, paid my £8, and have to say I haven't seen any improvement this year at all. Again, I hope I'm proved wrong and Antrim get to at least the quarter final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 30, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
As ive said before its best to ignore SIE as he has Two rather large chips on his shoulder.

saying that!!!

SIE, do you know there is a players committee, which includes a number of players, not just the two you seem to continually have a problem with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 30, 2014, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 30, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
As ive said before its best to ignore SIE as he has Two rather large chips on his shoulder.

saying that!!!

SIE, do you know there is a players committee, which includes a number of players, not just the two you seem to continually have a problem with.

not taking sides at all but im not always a supporter of unelected committees, this committee you speak of is never elected by anyone and only ever changes if someone leaves the panel(still plenty of of good lads involved). its also not really a committee as such they are player reps, a buffer between player/manager and player/ county board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 30, 2014, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 30, 2014, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 30, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
As ive said before its best to ignore SIE as he has Two rather large chips on his shoulder.

saying that!!!

SIE, do you know there is a players committee, which includes a number of players, not just the two you seem to continually have a problem with.

not taking sides at all but im not always a supporter of unelected committees, this committee you speak of is never elected by anyone and only ever changes if someone leaves the panel(still plenty of of good lads involved). its also not really a committee as such they are player reps, a buffer between player/manager and player/ county board.

What would the remit of this players committee be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 30, 2014, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 30, 2014, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 30, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
As ive said before its best to ignore SIE as he has Two rather large chips on his shoulder.

saying that!!!

SIE, do you know there is a players committee, which includes a number of players, not just the two you seem to continually have a problem with.

not taking sides at all but im not always a supporter of unelected committees, this committee you speak of is never elected by anyone and only ever changes if someone leaves the panel(still plenty of of good lads involved). its also not really a committee as such they are player reps, a buffer between player/manager and player/ county board.

What would the remit of this players committee be?

Lads this is a total non story invented largely by a player who never has or never will commit to the county cause.
That is his choice of course, but there is no limelight to be had sitting quietly behind the scenes.

Kevin Ryan wants to run the ship which ever way he wants and as the manager that is his decision. If players can't, won't or he determines lack the attitude or commitment then they wont be part of his plans.

As a manager I would rather go down fighting with 15 men who were fully behind me and the ethos of the team, than have a larger squad with a few people who dont really 'want' it as much. But hey that's just me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
It wasn't invented and it's not pertaining to whom you are presuming it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
It wasn't invented and it's not pertaining to whom you are presuming it is.

I have a fair idea who it is pertaining to, but it is being perpetuated by the person I referred too in my post, for no other reason than the one I also alluded too.

I was just making a point, not going to get drawn into a slanging match over a non-event.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 12:40:45 PM
It wasn't invented and it's not pertaining to whom you are presuming it is.

Is your  ambitions to put negative spin on KR so great that your prepared to make a dik of yourself because  that's what happening
Doesn't seem to anyway on here how cares who is influencing who with player selection
You never answered my only question relevant to this subject
Why is young mc faddden hurling for antrim if there is such an aversion to LG from inside the set up
Change the record your really starting to bore everyone 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
It seems I'm out of place on here when showing concern about how our county team is being run.
.... Again, I hope I'm proved wrong and Antrim get to at least the quarter final.

;D
Yes of course that's your motivation for posting. Isn't it plain for everyone to see  ::)

In EVERY county up and down the land there are disgruntled "supporters" and uncommitted talents who will find every reason to justify themselves to suit their own ends. Like every other county, we've moved on without them. 

The players who have committed are responding positively to KR and his demands. They all demand our respect for their efforts. In the medium to long term his approach (if we have the guts to stick to it) will pay dividends, so lets not get caught up in the divisive personality battles that SIE wants to drag us into.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)

All of them 'inside' the parish boundary no doubt  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:30:03 PM
Powerful lot of mind readers on here. Some seem to know me better than myself.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:30:03 PM
Powerful lot of mind readers on here. Some seem to know me better than myself.   :P

Not necessary to be a mind reader, just need to see through/ past the red tinted glasses

Good to see the siege mentality alive and well

Reminds me of the famous old Millwall FC song
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 30, 2014, 02:50:02 PM
Seems the loughgiel siege mentality that has served so well at club level has spilled over into the county set up. This is wrong.

Also seems that one (now I hear two?) players  have too much influence on KR and who is selected. This is wrong.

Either way - the lads representing our county from all clubs deserve our support.

My main thinking as to why we don't succeed is that we won't until we prioritise the club scene to create a large selection of able hurlers rather than a narrow band - perpetuated by the club scene being relegated which has knock-on effect at county's expense. Build the foundations strong and all that.

But it's also true we need a united push behind the county squad for the teams to reach their potential - maybe if the first part is sorted out the latter will follow.

Hoping for a win in Carlow regardless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2014, 03:14:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 30, 2014, 02:50:02 PM
Seems the loughgiel siege mentality that has served so well at club level has spilled over into the county set up. This is wrong.

Also seems that one (now I hear two?) players definitely have too much influence on KR and who is selected. This is wrong.

Either way - the lads representing our county from all clubs deserve our support.

My main thinking as to why we don't succeed is that we won't until we prioritise the club scene to create a large selection of able hurlers rather than a narrow band - perpetuated by the club scene being relegated at the county's expense.

But it's perhaps also true we need a united push behind the county squad for the teams to reach their potential - maybe if the first part is sorted out the latter will follow.

Hoping for a win in Carlow regardless.

There's only one club that seems to be disgruntled with whatever player influence has on county selection
SIE approach certainly isn't helping relations between LG and the clubs these supposed string pullers are from
It's been relentless since KR took over. The fact that he argued for watson about the same subject recently is not helping him to be taking seriously about new developments

Glad you mentioned the Carlow game as that would be a important topic that the broken record jibberish stuff since yesterday
Will be a tough game as Carlow are at home and are wounded after there draw with London
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)


We are going for a record in the football, and not a player on the county panel, I don't think its worrying anyone in the club to be fair, is this good for Antrim? Don't know but as has been said here numerous times this sort of stuff happens in most counties. Better with a committed panel that hangerons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2014, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)


We are going for a record in the football, and not a player on the county panel, I don't think its worrying anyone in the club to be fair, is this good for Antrim? Don't know but as has been said here numerous times this sort of stuff happens in most counties. Better with a committed panel that hangerons

Dall early favourites , your first name isn't " Jose " by any chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)


We are going for a record in the football, and not a player on the county panel, I don't think its worrying anyone in the club to be fair, is this good for Antrim? Don't know but as has been said here numerous times this sort of stuff happens in most counties. Better with a committed panel that hangerons
and look at how well the county footballers are doing.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 30, 2014, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 02:06:36 PM
I knew it wouldn't be long until you reverted to type with the personal insults. You'd need to ask Clyde that. Apart from Chrissy I don't believe anyone else from lg was asked back to the county panel.

Think of the advantage that gives you in the 'Drive for Five' SIE  ;)
Indeed. And if we achieve it, (the dall early favourites) surely people will start asking why there's only one outfield player from Loughgiel playing for Antrim.  ;)


We are going for a record in the football, and not a player on the county panel, I don't think its worrying anyone in the club to be fair, is this good for Antrim? Don't know but as has been said here numerous times this sort of stuff happens in most counties. Better with a committed panel that hangerons

Dall early favourites , your first name isn't " Jose " by any chance
Funnily enough.......no, no it isn't. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2014, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
We are going for a record in the football, and not a player on the county panel, I don't think its worrying anyone in the club to be fair, is this good for Antrim? Don't know but as has been said here numerous times this sort of stuff happens in most counties. Better with a committed panel that hangerons

Success hungry club players see the farce of being an intercounty footballer with Antrim shocker  :o

Never mind the McG factors having a negative impact on the whole set up

Many's a year Dunloy had 2 players on the county panel when they could (a should a would a) have had more. All clubs in their heart of hearts up here don't want too many representatives as it can have a detrimental affect on club training/preparations. SIE would have us all think he's badly annoyed that more aren't on it, when we all know rightly he's more than happy the drive for 5 is the focus of every LG player this year and his whingeing is solely about generating a siege mentality.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 05:25:24 PM
You could point to many successful club teams not having significant representation on their county team. When Ballyhale were very good five or six years ago how many did they have? Galway teams always seem to be the exception but Newtownshandrum had the O'Connors and how many others? (I think they'd one other who was the boy in defense who did corner back and wasn't the cleanest player in the world). Ballyhale had Shefflin and TJ Reid hadn't made it yet. The other Reids never really made it and Fennelly (I think he was on it?) was on his early years and may not have been there yet.

Armagh didn't have that many starters from Cross either on the football side.

Note on the above that these were sucessful counties. In fact maybe to flip it round you're better not having too much representation! Birr had more but Offaly weren't brilliant when they had the big representation from Birr if I recall correctly as they were a bit later? (Maybe 98 was an exception)

So basically not having that many county players from your most successful club team doesn't mean that much really... County and club games vastly different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
Lets not forget the reigning Clare champions and the resigning All Ireland Champions

No many representing both there either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 06:18:14 PM
So now Antrim have stumbled upon the winning formula, namely having little or no representation from the current 4 time county and, not so long ago All Ireland club winning team,we can expect the Liam McCarthy cup being  paraded down the Andersonstown road in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2014, 06:18:14 PM
So now Antrim have stumbled upon the winning formula, namely having little or no representation from the current 4 time county and, not so long ago All Ireland club winning team,we can expect the Liam McCarthy cup being  paraded down the Andersonstown road in the next couple of years.

Yes that's what me or skull said  ::)

The simple point is that just because you have a dominant club team in your county it doesn't mean they will always of massive amounts of county players SIE. That is all. It is not specific to Loughgiel and it is not specific to antrim.

Just because the county team doesn't have that many from the dominant club team doesn't mean that that dominant club is being victimised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 30, 2014, 08:12:04 PM
Separating the loughgiel issue but staying on the debate - the fact that other counties draw from a wider range of clubs even with successful teams is possible because of the depth of talent.
This is exactly what I was talking about earlier - putting the club scene first to increase the talent we can draw from.
Unfortunately in Antrim it's not always a depth of talent that keeps players from the top clubs away!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2014, 09:53:41 AM
For what it's worth the player in question is Eddie McCloskey. A fella that has played for Antrim without fail since he was 16. Absolutely abysmal treatment of a dedicated hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2014, 10:13:39 AM
SIE

Shitstirrer In Eaction 

Grow up ya eejit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2014, 10:13:39 AM
SIE

Shitstirrer In Eaction 

Grow up ya eejit
that nearly works. Very poor spelling skull. 2/10.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2014, 10:27:10 AM
And there was me thinking you of all people would understand the phonetics  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2014, 10:27:10 AM
And there was me thinking you of all people would understand the phonetics  ::)
I know what you were trying to achieve, it just doesn't work.  :P

Replace the  "a" with a "y". My first lesson in "how tay spake Loughgiel".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 02, 2014, 10:53:38 AM
1   Chris O Connell Na Seamroga
2   Odhran Mc Fadden Na Seamroga
3   Conor Mc Kinley    Cú Chullain
4   Ciaran Johnson    Naomh Eoin
5   Eoghan Campbell   Ruairi Og
6   Neal Mc Auley    Mac Uilin
7   Neil Mc Manus (Capt)   Ruairi Og
8   Darren Hamill    Shane O Neills
9   Barry McFall    Naomh Eoin
10   Conor Carson    Ruairi Og
11   Paul Shiels    Cú Chullain
12   Stephen Beatty    Ui Donnabhain Rosa
13   Ciaran Clarke    Mac Uilin
14   Mathew Donnelly   Mac Uilin
15   PJ O Connell    Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
16   Seanan Mc Toal    Oisin,
17   Michael Bradley    Naomh Eoin
18   Tomas Ma Cann    Ciceaim Creagan
19   Aaron Graffin    Ruairi Og
20   Jackson Mc Greevy Naomh Gall
21   Conor Mc Cann    Ciceaim Creagan
22   Stephan Mc Afee   Mac Uilin
23   Nial Mc Kenna    Padraig Sairseil
24   Conor Johnson    Naomh Eoin
25   Simon Mc Crory    Naomh Eoin
26   Daniel Mc Kernan   Padraig Sairseil


I would be surprised if this is the team that starts?
Think Graffin in for the beginning?
Shiels form important again - great player.
McAuley needs a big game too to give us a platform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
Graffin has missed a lot of hurling though so probably fair enough he comes in as a sub for a bit yet.

Big game this one. With Laois looking like the form team this is really a must win game to get out of the group. I don't think it'll be an easy one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 03, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
I counted 11 clubs represented in that squad. I would be interested in the count 10 years ago as it seems more than ever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 03, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
I see your point Tony but unfortunately we can't compare our standard from now to 10yrs ago. So it's not really like with like.

At that stage Carlow Westmeath Laois even Dublin would have been wins and we were taking an occasional scalp off the big boys in the league.
I have said we need a larger pool of players but I think the spread of clubs now is more a product of a drop in standard - hopefully that doesn't sound so harsh.
Also some players from top clubs not playing contributes - and I don't mean that to be political!

But yes ultimately it's good to see players selected from a larger range of clubs - I would just prefer it was due to genuine quality that allowed us to compete on the national stage. And like the broken record I am - I think this will only happen when we but much greater priority on the club scene as a whole. Rising tide lifting all boats if you will.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
Our standard isn't vastly different than it was ten years ago. Carlow's and dublin's is so that's not like for like.

The only time we have really achieved in the last ten years is under dinny cahill. Under different managers our standard was no different to now. Now our squad is young which is better.

To some degree i think ryan is building. Irrespective of last years final the u21s were obviously a good crop to get there and he is putting faith in them.

Yes there are a couple of players you would like in there but every county nit winning ais is like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
Carlow 0-2 Antrim 1-2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
0-06 to 1-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 03:21:40 PM
0-09 to 1-05
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 03:40:03 PM
Half time. 0-12 to 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 03:57:21 PM
0-14 to 1-12
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 04:06:39 PM
0-15 to 1-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 04:20:50 PM
0-17 to 2-17. Goal from pj o'connell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 04:24:25 PM
Goal for Carlow. Penalty. 1-17 to 2-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 04:29:02 PM
Ft. 1-17 to 2-18
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Shorty was terrific. Pj o'connell had a great game as well. An improvement on last week but still a bit sporadic at times. Work to be done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 05, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Shorty was terrific. Pj o'connell had a great game as well. An improvement on last week but still a bit sporadic at times. Work to be done.
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FairPlay to you for making the trip down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 05, 2014, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 05, 2014, 10:40:36 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
Shorty was terrific. Pj o'connell had a great game as well. An improvement on last week but still a bit sporadic at times. Work to be done.

FairPlay to you for making the trip down
The night life is a bit mental in Carlow town. Good Craic all the same. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 09, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
How much will the admission be for the Antrim game on Sunday? Do they charge standard Leinster championship prices?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 09, 2014, 11:36:15 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 09, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
How much will the admission be for the Antrim game on Sunday? Do they charge standard Leinster championship prices?

8 quid for the Westmeath game so I would think this Sunday will be the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 09, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
A few predictions for the weekend, what do you think?

Antrim V London: Antrim by 5

ACHL Div 1
Loughgiel V Dunloy: loughgiel by 3
Ballycastle V Cushendall: Town by 1
St Galls V Ballygalget: Galls by 2
Portaferry V St Johns: St Johns by 2
Sarsields V Ballycran: Ballycran by 4

ACHL Division 2
Carey V Rossa: Carey by 2
Bredagh V St Paul's: St Paul's by 4
Randalstown V Clooney: Clooney by 5
Glenariff V Cushendun: Glenariff by 6
Gortnamona V Cloughmills: Cloughmills by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 09, 2014, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 09, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
A few predictions for the weekend, what do you think?

Antrim V London: Antrim by 5

ACHL Div 1
Loughgiel V Dunloy: loughgiel by 3 SHAMROCKS
Ballycastle V Cushendall: Town by 1 BALLYCASTLE
St Galls V Ballygalget: Galls by 2.  GALLS
Portaferry V St Johns: St Johns by 2 DRAW
Sarsields V Ballycran: Ballycran by 4.  BALLYCRAN

ACHL Division 2
Carey V Rossa: Carey by 2.   CAREY
Bredagh V St Paul's: St Paul's by 4. ST PAULS
Randalstown V Clooney: Clooney by 5 CLOONEY
Glenariff V Cushendun: Glenariff by 6.  OISINS
Gortnamona V Cloughmills: Cloughmills by 1. CLOUGHMILLS

So more or less the same should be a run of the mill set of results including the game against London.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2014, 08:18:35 PM
Half time. Shamrocks 8-7 up. Tight as ever. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 11, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
Was the weather bad/big win? Poor enough scoring from both. Did county men line out at all or not allowed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 11, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2014, 08:18:35 PM
Half time. Shamrocks 8-7 up. Tight as ever.

we should have stole it in the last 3 minutes but happy enough with no woody or shorty


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 12, 2014, 12:00:52 AM
A game which we could have won but Id say on balance we'd be happy to come away with a point. LG's distribution of the ball was alot better  as was their forward play and they probably should have came away with the 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 12, 2014, 08:58:03 AM
lgiel shot bad wides then again so did we. both teams could of won it but a draw was a fair result. poor game for a local derby, i kept waiting for it to kick inot life!

happy with a draw missing 4 players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 10:37:12 AM
Early in the season, I'm sure later on it will kick off for real ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 12, 2014, 11:43:05 AM
Into life meaning a more flowing game MR.

Loughgiel certainly better at using the ball than ourselves as they've been doing so for the past few years and their movement up front was a difference. Very good at recycling the ball when under pressure. You could see we're not quite there yet, but we're working at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
was at the under 17 development game at Rossa Park on Sat morning, Antrim were playing Kilkenny and Foggarty was looking after the Kilkenny team while Humpy and Marty Devine were looking after our lads, decent game and fair play to both teams with high standard tempo for most parts.

Some quality scores from both teams with Antrim edging it by a point in the end, good refereeing to I thought ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 12, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
was at the under 17 development game at Rossa Park on Sat morning, Antrim were playing Kilkenny and Foggarty was looking after the Kilkenny team while Humpy and Marty Devine were looking after our lads, decent game and fair play to both teams with high standard tempo for most parts.

Some quality scores from both teams with Antrim edging it by a point in the end, good refereeing to I thought ;)

Is this the strongest U17 squad Kilkenny have available MR2?
I see one of the younger squads won against them as well - great to think we're competing at this but experience says it's maybe not the full KK contingent?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 12, 2014, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 12, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
was at the under 17 development game at Rossa Park on Sat morning, Antrim were playing Kilkenny and Foggarty was looking after the Kilkenny team while Humpy and Marty Devine were looking after our lads, decent game and fair play to both teams with high standard tempo for most parts.

Some quality scores from both teams with Antrim edging it by a point in the end, good refereeing to I thought ;)

Is this the strongest U17 squad Kilkenny have available MR2?
I see one of the younger squads won against them as well - great to think we're competing at this but experience says it's maybe not the full KK contingent?

Did the minors beat the Dubs aswell? Assume it was a Dublin under 17 squad?

The Under 15 squad beat Kilkenny over 60 minutes. I think they kept playing for 75 (as there was no other game) and Kilkenny got a rake of goals at the end. Seems a handy group - they got to the Forrestal Semi last year and (per the County website) beat Wexford and Waterford (very well) last weekend.

I thought I saw somewhere that Limerick were supposed to travel up - anybody know what happened there? Shame it couldn't have been a blitz rather than a series of games against KK (but that is not to in any way take anything away from either Kilkenny for travelling or from the persons who organised the games - fair play to all!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 12, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
was at the under 17 development game at Rossa Park on Sat morning, Antrim were playing Kilkenny and Foggarty was looking after the Kilkenny team while Humpy and Marty Devine were looking after our lads, decent game and fair play to both teams with high standard tempo for most parts.

Some quality scores from both teams with Antrim edging it by a point in the end, good refereeing to I thought ;)

Is this the strongest U17 squad Kilkenny have available MR2?
I see one of the younger squads won against them as well - great to think we're competing at this but experience says it's maybe not the full KK contingent?

Allegedly not but there are no real easy teams in Kilkenny, they took their scores easier than we did if truth be told but wee did rightly. It matters most in Championship so hopefully that's when we will know if we have a decent team or not, Marty told me we had a few missing also so very promising
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
MR, did you make it to our game with yourselves on Sunday evening? A win we'd have been hopeful of but not expecting TBH.

We've Ballycran at home on wednesday night I believe, but I don't see it in the fixtures list.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
MR, did you make it to our game with yourselves on Sunday evening? A win we'd have been hopeful of but not expecting TBH.

We've Ballycran at home on wednesday night I believe, but I don't see it in the fixtures list.

Was refereeing but got a report on the game, heard we threw it away :(, various reasons but I hear it was 2 points lost by us, disappointed as I'm sure the management (as yours did) targeted this for 2 points, couple lads missing and a player sent off before half time which doesn't help, but they will just have to dig in and try and get an away win somewhere. They seem to be getting more competitive which is good for this time of the year.

Progression through the league and stay up with Clooney Gaels the main focus I'm sure, was at the Clooney gaels game and PJ is a bit special when on the ball, score 2-5 or something so needs a watching come Championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 13, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.

Limerick were due to travel also but unfortunately could not come in the end. However our develpoment coaches and admin staff have solid links there and Limerick have instead offered to host two of our development squads for an overnight trip involving games and coaching sessions - which we will be taking up.

Saturday was a great day for our young hurling squads - stern tests for all and in most cases Antrim performed very well. The work going on at this level is huge, and will pay dividends long term. Saturday's activities were financially supported by the members of the One Antrim scheme - thats where the money is being primarily targeted, it is worth getting on board.


Not to forget the footballers; both U16 and U17 teams beat Down on Saturday before each losing to Donegal.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on May 13, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.

Limerick were due to travel also but unfortunately could not come in the end. However our develpoment coaches and admin staff have solid links there and Limerick have instead offered to host two of our development squads for an overnight trip involving games and coaching sessions - which we will be taking up.

Saturday was a great day for our young hurling squads - stern tests for all and in most cases Antrim performed very well. The work going on at this level is huge, and will pay dividends long term. Saturday's activities were financially supported by the members of the One Antrim scheme - thats where the money is being primarily targeted, it is worth getting on board.


Not to forget the footballers; both U16 and U17 teams beat Down on Saturday before each losing to Donegal.

All great to hear Brendan! I think everyone on the board would support all of this!
In keeping with tradition can we also start discriminating against some Loughgiel lads? (Sorry SiE - u know i jest)
Maybe throw a city lad off for some indiscipline at an away game also?

Can I ask - Is the focus on the best players at this level only?

My feeling is the same as at senior - we need a broader base to sustain and push the standard.

I mean, the best players at juvenile don't always develop to be the best in senior (in all counties) so we can't neglect currently lesser players who might develop better by senior.

Not an just an Antrim issue i know - I suppose its the subtle difference between a county squad, and a county development squad.
If we concentrate on the players who happen to be the best at that point in time - ultimately it might not 'develop' hurling at all by senior should that smaller focus not come through.

Stronger players at stronger players have the best chance here, but to develop maybe some focus on "lesser" players at "lesser" club might help.

Genuine question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 13, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on May 13, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.

Limerick were due to travel also but unfortunately could not come in the end. However our develpoment coaches and admin staff have solid links there and Limerick have instead offered to host two of our development squads for an overnight trip involving games and coaching sessions - which we will be taking up.

Saturday was a great day for our young hurling squads - stern tests for all and in most cases Antrim performed very well. The work going on at this level is huge, and will pay dividends long term. Saturday's activities were financially supported by the members of the One Antrim scheme - thats where the money is being primarily targeted, it is worth getting on board.


Not to forget the footballers; both U16 and U17 teams beat Down on Saturday before each losing to Donegal.

All great to hear Brendan! I think everyone on the board would support all of this!
In keeping with tradition can we also start discriminating against some Loughgiel lads? (Sorry SiE - u know i jest)
Maybe throw a city lad off for some indiscipline at an away game also?

Can I ask - Is the focus on the best players at this level only?

My feeling is the same as at senior - we need a broader base to sustain and push the standard.

I mean, the best players at juvenile don't always develop to be the best in senior (in all counties) so we can't neglect currently lesser players who might develop better by senior.

Not an just an Antrim issue i know - I suppose its the subtle difference between a county squad, and a county development squad.
If we concentrate on the players who happen to be the best at that point in time - ultimately it might not 'develop' hurling at all by senior should that smaller focus not come through.

Stronger players at stronger players have the best chance here, but to develop maybe some focus on "lesser" players at "lesser" club might help.

Genuine question.

I would have thought that is a resource problem.

We have barely enough to look after and work properly with the cream never mind looking to develop a second tier of player behind this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2014, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 13, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 13, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on May 13, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.

Limerick were due to travel also but unfortunately could not come in the end. However our develpoment coaches and admin staff have solid links there and Limerick have instead offered to host two of our development squads for an overnight trip involving games and coaching sessions - which we will be taking up.

Saturday was a great day for our young hurling squads - stern tests for all and in most cases Antrim performed very well. The work going on at this level is huge, and will pay dividends long term. Saturday's activities were financially supported by the members of the One Antrim scheme - thats where the money is being primarily targeted, it is worth getting on board.


Not to forget the footballers; both U16 and U17 teams beat Down on Saturday before each losing to Donegal.

All great to hear Brendan! I think everyone on the board would support all of this!
In keeping with tradition can we also start discriminating against some Loughgiel lads? (Sorry SiE - u know i jest)
Maybe throw a city lad off for some indiscipline at an away game also?

Can I ask - Is the focus on the best players at this level only?

My feeling is the same as at senior - we need a broader base to sustain and push the standard.

I mean, the best players at juvenile don't always develop to be the best in senior (in all counties) so we can't neglect currently lesser players who might develop better by senior.

Not an just an Antrim issue i know - I suppose its the subtle difference between a county squad, and a county development squad.
If we concentrate on the players who happen to be the best at that point in time - ultimately it might not 'develop' hurling at all by senior should that smaller focus not come through.

Stronger players at stronger players have the best chance here, but to develop maybe some focus on "lesser" players at "lesser" club might help.

Genuine question.

I would have thought that is a resource problem.

We have barely enough to look after and work properly with the cream never mind looking to develop a second tier of player behind this.

True, hence why the likes of Kilkenny can have U-17 development squads of various levels out and about as they've greater resources and TBH the expense of sending a team to Limerick is vastly less for Kilkenny than it would be for Antrim or Down. Our geographical location works against us in a big way.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 13, 2014, 05:19:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 13, 2014, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on May 13, 2014, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on May 12, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Yes u15s won as well.  Made 13 changes in the last 15 minute period to give all 30 of the squad a run out and KK scored 4-2, up until that point they had scored 1-5 to Antrim's 2-10.  Out hurled KK in all aspects of the game for the 60 minute period.

Limerick were due to travel also but unfortunately could not come in the end. However our develpoment coaches and admin staff have solid links there and Limerick have instead offered to host two of our development squads for an overnight trip involving games and coaching sessions - which we will be taking up.

Saturday was a great day for our young hurling squads - stern tests for all and in most cases Antrim performed very well. The work going on at this level is huge, and will pay dividends long term. Saturday's activities were financially supported by the members of the One Antrim scheme - thats where the money is being primarily targeted, it is worth getting on board.


Not to forget the footballers; both U16 and U17 teams beat Down on Saturday before each losing to Donegal.

All great to hear Brendan! I think everyone on the board would support all of this!
In keeping with tradition can we also start discriminating against some Loughgiel lads? (Sorry SiE - u know i jest)
Maybe throw a city lad off for some indiscipline at an away game also?

Can I ask - Is the focus on the best players at this level only?

My feeling is the same as at senior - we need a broader base to sustain and push the standard.

I mean, the best players at juvenile don't always develop to be the best in senior (in all counties) so we can't neglect currently lesser players who might develop better by senior.

Not an just an Antrim issue i know - I suppose its the subtle difference between a county squad, and a county development squad.
If we concentrate on the players who happen to be the best at that point in time - ultimately it might not 'develop' hurling at all by senior should that smaller focus not come through.

Stronger players at stronger players have the best chance here, but to develop maybe some focus on "lesser" players at "lesser" club might help.

Genuine question.

I think the focus has to be on the best players at this level. In a world of unlimited resources (both money and coaches) of course it would be better to spread those resources equally across all clubs but in Antrim we have neither the money nor the pool of coaches to do that. We also have the issue highlighted by Johnny of geographical isolation which compounds expense which (Down apart) nobody else has.

By focusing on an elite and putting scarce resources into such a group, we can persuade a group of 14/15/16 year olds (and the rest of the county) that they can be the match of anybody in the country.  Of course many will drop out and not become senior "stars" but if we can create a culture of matching and indeed beating the "big" counties at underage level, that can only be good for the game in the county. It can only attract more people to play.

From the lists of squad members that you can find on various sites, the squads certainly don't appear to be the preserve of the big clubs. I think I read somewhere that the 35 members of the under 15 squad come from 16 different clubs. While anybody coming up through a squad will obviously have a huge advantage, I think it is important that membership is reviewed every year and there is at least a possibility of someone playing their way onto a team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on May 13, 2014, 05:32:26 PM
MR2 - have you been referreeing this year? How have you found the standard with the developing clubs? The Ahoghills, the Sarsfields and the Cloughmills of this world?


Gaels have lifted it a gear I've noticed they have a bigger squad also, still the main guys playing but more experienced, Sarsfields have kicked on from last also, they have a great 15 and Kevo's lads are very good with McKenna taking good scores, they will only improve. Was disappointed with Cloughmills last year, they looked good in parts but I actually played against them (thats how short we were that day) and beat them. Creggan are the team that has improved the most, refereed them last year and they have done well in the league so far this year.

Hopefully these teams lift the other teams in their leagues, always a good thing when everybody raises the standard, which hasn't been the case in the div 1 football over the past 10 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 13, 2014, 05:44:48 PM
Late developers from the strong clubs will be getting a decent standard of coaching there and as has been said, we currently haven't got the right numbers of boots on the ground to take these teams or the finance (could it improve if we raise the level of our ambition? Maybe). I do think lads with potential but with raw stickwork from weaker clubs (where the coaching effort/standards wouldn't be the same) should be given some sort of dispensation (if thats the right term? Minder will set me straight) which allowed them to stay onboard with development squads to iron out their stickwork.

I wish more from our club would commit to the development squads. I think they're doing a very good job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2014, 06:27:58 PM
Resources is a fair point - I can imagine the problems faced. It's the same everywhere unfortunately.

My point is just that I think we lose so many hurlers from weaker clubs - whilst the current development squads concentrate on players already getting quality coaching in the big clubs or schools.

Casting the net wider will ultimately produce some hurlers that otherwise we'd lose - whereas we wouldn't be at so much of a risk of losing the better ones from the better clubs. Proper development might focus behind the high levels already catered for.

But it's very true - a matter of volunteers & resources etc restricts the capability for all things at all times. I'm sure there's many a coach cursing my point when they're already working hard against the tide!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 13, 2014, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on May 13, 2014, 05:32:26 PM
MR2 - have you been referreeing this year? How have you found the standard with the developing clubs? The Ahoghills, the Sarsfields and the Cloughmills of this world?


Gaels have lifted it a gear I've noticed they have a bigger squad also, still the main guys playing but more experienced, Sarsfields have kicked on from last also, they have a great 15 and Kevo's lads are very good with McKenna taking good scores, they will only improve. Was disappointed with Cloughmills last year, they looked good in parts but I actually played against them (thats how short we were that day) and beat them. Creggan are the team that has improved the most, refereed them last year and they have done well in the league so far this year.

Hopefully these teams lift the other teams in their leagues, always a good thing when everybody raises the standard, which hasn't been the case in the div 1 football over the past 10 years

Carey are catching the eye up here, they have a very young mobile team and big McCormick has them well drilled. They had a draw with Rossa last outing and beat Glenariff handy enough the game before that. They play Cloughmills tomorrow night so will be interesting to see how that goes. Could be pushing for division 1 after narrowly missing out in league and championship last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2014, 12:33:46 PM
it seems that div2 is becoming more and more competitive which is great to see. St galls have done great since their set up and the same with Sarsfields.

i will be honest and say i thought they would get hammered most games but they have proved me wrong, something which im glad to say! long may it continue.

sucess boosts a club and a group of players along with that drive to compete at higher levels. Creggan look like they have the bit between their teeth, same with Cloney, to push up to that higher level. the only factor that could hold them is being a dual club thats primary game is football. its not easy to make both the main aim. St Johns do it well so theres no reason other clubs cant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2014, 12:33:46 PM
it seems that div2 is becoming more and more competitive which is great to see. St galls have done great since their set up and the same with Sarsfields.

i will be honest and say i thought they would get hammered most games but they have proved me wrong, something which im glad to say! long may it continue.

sucess boosts a club and a group of players along with that drive to compete at higher levels. Creggan look like they have the bit between their teeth, same with Cloney, to push up to that higher level. the only factor that could hold them is being a dual club thats primary game is football. its not easy to make both the main aim. St Johns do it well so theres no reason other clubs cant.

DR I suppose that depends on your definition of well really. In success terms alone then you would have to say at senior level they are and have been failing.

But I do understand the point that you are making.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Agree with both DR & NAG.
Dual clubs = "success" is relative.
Being competitive or being in division 1 is not the same as actually winning anything. Or even getting close to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

one all Ireland win with countless senior titles for a dual club in one code and mediocrity in another code is not bad. Most clubs would bite your arm off for that. Hopefully we can get some hurling success this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

one all Ireland win with countless senior titles for a dual club in one code and mediocrity in another code is not bad. Most clubs would bite your arm off for that. Hopefully we can get some hurling success this year.

I agree. Its not bad at all.

Not sure why its a reply to the point that I made though as it bears no relation to what I was saying.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

Couldn't agree more skull. Precisely correct!

MR2 the point is with reference to hurling - not the whole club.
St galls are the in fact the foremost example of mediocrity in hurling because of football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

Couldn't agree more skull. Precisely correct!

MR2 the point is with reference to hurling - not the whole club.
St galls are the in fact the foremost example of mediocrity in hurling because of football.

We'll see ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2014, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

Couldn't agree more skull. Precisely correct!

MR2 the point is with reference to hurling - not the whole club.
St galls are the in fact the foremost example of mediocrity in hurling because of football.

We'll see ;)

We have already seen.

Skull hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

Couldn't agree more skull. Precisely correct!

MR2 the point is with reference to hurling - not the whole club.
St galls are the in fact the foremost example of mediocrity in hurling because of football.

Yes we have never achieved anything of note in hurling, and for the players we have that can hurl we have been overshadowed by an extremely successfull football team, I thought the initial point was that if you are dual you won't be successfull in either code. That's not the case Dunloy and ourselves and to a certain point Rossa/st Johns a few years ago where doing it well on both fronts, winning senior championships in one code and holding their own in another. Being a Gael is getting the games played supportted and promoted, the winning is a what comes along to all clubs at some point in their history and its what drives them on. I've lost a bitta love for it as I've just about stopped playing and it hurts, the refereeing still gives me that wee buzz but the gurnning cnuts that mouth the whole time in a match would sicken your hole :P.

Anyways, I see we were unlucky last nict away to the ports ffs!! Cushendall and Loughgiel served up a draw and the other games went to plan I think, Paddies put up a decent fight against Ballycastle also. All very interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 15, 2014, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
If you've alot of dual players, the facts bear out that you get mediocrity* in both if you try to achieve in both at the same time

mediocrity being a level below where you could be if you focused solely on one code. Others will have an opinion on what defines success for them. I wouldn't be a fan of mediocrity myself

Couldn't agree more skull. Precisely correct!

MR2 the point is with reference to hurling - not the whole club.
St galls are the in fact the foremost example of mediocrity in hurling because of football.

Yes we have never achieved anything of note in hurling, and for the players we have that can hurl we have been overshadowed by an extremely successfull football team, I thought the initial point was that if you are dual you won't be successfull in either code. That's not the case Dunloy and ourselves and to a certain point Rossa/st Johns a few years ago where doing it well on both fronts, winning senior championships in one code and holding their own in another. Being a Gael is getting the games played supportted and promoted, the winning is a what comes along to all clubs at some point in their history and its what drives them on. I've lost a bitta love for it as I've just about stopped playing and it hurts, the refereeing still gives me that wee buzz but the gurnning cnuts that mouth the whole time in a match would sicken your hole :P.

Anyways, I see we were unlucky last nict away to the ports ffs!! Cushendall and Loughgiel served up a draw and the other games went to plan I think, Paddies put up a decent fight against Ballycastle also. All very interesting

Yes wouldn't disagree with a word of that MR2 - although I sense the wins will come along all the less frequently for the dual clubs.

Any more reports from league games? I'm away so much with work at the minute that I'm not getting to see much hurling. At this stage a Munster championship game is most likely - not a bad thing I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on May 15, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Was at the Cushendall and LG match last night.  Was a game of two halves.  Cushendall better in first half and LG the second.  One of the guys for LG took a dive in the second have that Ronaldo or Suarez would have proud off.  Sad to see it in a hurling match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2014, 11:43:30 AM
Quote from: Larnegaa on May 15, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Was at the Cushendall and LG match last night.  Was a game of two halves.  Cushendall better in first half and LG the second.  One of the guys for LG took a dive in the second have that Ronaldo or Suarez would have proud off.  Sad to see it in a hurling match.

Noticed 2 dives last night in game I done!! was sad that they actually tried to con me with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 15, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
Tough viewing last night as we took a 24 or 25 point tanking from Ballycran at home.

Too many lads think they don't have a man to mark and swanning about doing their own thing, picking up the odd loose ball and thinking thats enough whilst their direct opponent is having a field day and killing us.

Ballycran are a slick enough outfit at the minute, but I've always maintained if you give an average hurler time and space they'll look good, its when you're with them, toe to toe at the point of contact you really find out their worth, our lads stood and watched average hurlers eat them up and shite them out.

I know we're missing a few, but that's as bad as I've seen in a long time from us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 15, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
Tough viewing last night as we took a 24 or 25 point tanking from Ballycran at home.

Too many lads think they don't have a man to mark and swanning about doing their own thing, picking up the odd loose ball and thinking thats enough whilst their direct opponent is having a field day and killing us.

Ballycran are a slick enough outfit at the minute, but I've always maintained if you give an average hurler time and space they'll look good, its when you're with them, toe to toe at the point of contact you really find out their worth, our lads stood and watched average hurlers eat them up and shite them out.

I know we're missing a few, but that's as bad as I've seen in a long time from us.

Is that your biggest beating by the Crans?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 16, 2014, 08:56:51 AM
was at our game on wednesday night away to St. Johns.

we didnt play well at all, our passing wasnt up to scratch and we played too many pointless balls to each other. didnt understand our tactic of short puck outs to the corner backs, st johns had them under pressure straight away and we lost 5 points to this tactic.

that being said we played poor and lost by 3 points scoring 2-13 to the bargin. we were without Micky McClements, Kevin Molloy, Liam Richmond and Paul Shiels so all in we cant complain when missing those 4 players.

st johns could of had us beat out the gate but some poor shooting nearly cost them the game. Ciaran Johnston had a great game at centre half, simon mc crorry also was solid all night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 16, 2014, 10:29:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 15, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
Tough viewing last night as we took a 24 or 25 point tanking from Ballycran at home.

Too many lads think they don't have a man to mark and swanning about doing their own thing, picking up the odd loose ball and thinking thats enough whilst their direct opponent is having a field day and killing us.

Ballycran are a slick enough outfit at the minute, but I've always maintained if you give an average hurler time and space they'll look good, its when you're with them, toe to toe at the point of contact you really find out their worth, our lads stood and watched average hurlers eat them up and shite them out.

I know we're missing a few, but that's as bad as I've seen in a long time from us.

Is that your biggest beating by the Crans?

In my lifetime yes, especially at home as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 16, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
Few nice wins for county after prob defeats that we all seen coming.   first real test in a month coming up,  how do we see it going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2014, 08:53:07 AM
this is gong to be a real tough test for us, Laois are a strong team esp at home and will be well up for this game.

i was at our game with them last year in Laois and we never looked like winning it. they had a massive home support backing them and it will be the same again come the weekend.

if we play to the potential that we have on the pitch we can win. Shorty is unplayable this season, hes the best in ulster by a mile so we need him to keep it going. the rest of the team has been in consistent form as well so fingers crossed we get another win!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 19, 2014, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2014, 08:53:07 AM
this is gong to be a real tough test for us, Laois are a strong team esp at home and will be well up for this game.

i was at our game with them last year in Laois and we never looked like winning it. they had a massive home support backing them and it will be the same again come the weekend.

if we play to the potential that we have on the pitch we can win. Shorty is unplayable this season, hes the best in ulster by a mile so we need him to keep it going. the rest of the team has been in consistent form as well so fingers crossed we get another win!

Think you have been watching too much soccer coverage with those terms?

I think there's a few hurlers in the southern counties that would find him just fine to play against - if not Ulster.

Our best player all the same - no argument there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2014, 10:44:39 AM
Laois will be hard at home but struggled big time yesterday against London, 8 up at half time and held on from a strong second half showing from London. London missed a lot of chances to go in front, I'm sure they are re-focused on us now but this game is there for the taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
This is the big one for both teams as the wexford game is winnable for whoever wins this especially with the team coming in having championship behind them when wexford haven't. A game against Galway is a bit less appealing. Though Loughnane tips them for AI I think he's way off the mark but they're way too strong for either here.

Carlow struggled with westmeath too. How each team does against the other teams seems to count for nothing when it comes down to it. 

BIg game but really this is about our level and the kind of game to stand up and be counted in so hopefully we can do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 19, 2014, 01:45:44 PM
With both teams unbeaten, I presume the winners draw Wexford and the losers Galway.


I'd say that's incentive enough to bust your balls for the win as Wexford are a very achievable target for either team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
Yep - winner plays wexford and loser galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 20, 2014, 08:42:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 19, 2014, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2014, 08:53:07 AM
this is gong to be a real tough test for us, Laois are a strong team esp at home and will be well up for this game.

i was at our game with them last year in Laois and we never looked like winning it. they had a massive home support backing them and it will be the same again come the weekend.

if we play to the potential that we have on the pitch we can win. Shorty is unplayable this season, hes the best in ulster by a mile so we need him to keep it going. the rest of the team has been in consistent form as well so fingers crossed we get another win!

Think you have been watching too much soccer coverage with those terms?

I think there's a few hurlers in the southern counties that would find him just fine to play against - if not Ulster.
Our best player all the same - no argument there.

that i doubt. ive not seen many people in ulster hold him scoreless or prevent him from playing over the past 3 years at least.

he hasnt actually played a single game for Dunloy this season, which is mental considering its nearly June!!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 21, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
why do Laois get home advantage for the QF no matter who they play? Would it have been fair to give both 'Qualifiers' home advantage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 21, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
Galway haven't had a home game yet in Leinster either. Any match against them would probably be down there also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 21, 2014, 06:28:47 PM
I read somewhere both games are in portlaoise regardless who finishes top! Just odd one team out of the four gets home advantage, could understand if it was dependant on them finishing top of the group!

Anyhows hope Antrim win on Sunday and set up a clash with Wexford, though our record against them outside Antrim isn't great either, had we gotten them up in Ballycastle again we'd nearly be favourites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on May 24, 2014, 09:50:03 AM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=216909

Shiels on the bench - is he carrying a knock?

Surely they should be aiming to win this game? No matter how inconsistent Galway are they'll be much tougher than Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 24, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
Can't remember the last time any team lined out as published.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
That's a fantastic win in Portlaoise and one that really matters.
Wexford instead of Galway.
In dungarvan today and the deise are enjoying the viewing from Thurles but I suspect cork will fight back and win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 25, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
That's a fantastic win in Portlaoise and one that really matters.
Wexford instead of Galway.
In dungarvan today and the deise are enjoying the viewing from Thurles but I suspect cork will fight back and win.

Well done antrim, Laos as good as Wexford at present so nothing to fear
Mon the saffrons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!

I'm surprised they won in fairness, without the Loughgiel lads and NMcM picking the team, strange.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!

I'm surprised they won in fairness, without the Loughgiel lads and NMcM picking the team, strange.....

Oh ffs lets not do that argument again.

Believe KR is making great inroads into changing the mindset and requirement to be an Antrim player. I think he's getting the right response from those prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stibhan on May 25, 2014, 06:52:58 PM
Could it be two big wins against Wexford in two years? Would be a massive achievement if so. Kevin Ryan has got Antrim fearing none of these teams anymore and I for one am delighted to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 25, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!

I'm surprised they won in fairness, without the Loughgiel lads and NMcM picking the team, strange.....

Oh ffs lets not do that argument again.

Believe KR is making great inroads into changing the mindset and requirement to be an Antrim player. I think he's getting the right response from those prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Well done to all involved.

Forgot smilie ffs!! Sorry  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 25, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!

I'm surprised they won in fairness, without the Loughgiel lads and NMcM picking the team, strange.....

Oh ffs lets not do that argument again.

Believe KR is making great inroads into changing the mindset and requirement to be an Antrim player. I think he's getting the right response from those prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Well done to all involved.

Forgot smilie ffs!! Sorry  ;)
;D You're a stirring shite!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on May 25, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
Great result today. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on May 25, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Great result for Antrim down in Laois today. Gives Antrim a real chance next Sunday. I hope everyone is fit and ready for next week. That will be the fifth championship match in six weeks which is heavy going. Antrim's fitness coach is certainly earning his money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
Delighted with the win. Fair play to everyone of the lads.  Wexford will be a better drilled team than last time we played them, tho rather them than galway.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
Agreed SG, they would need to be well rested after that today, all the travelling alone would take it's toll, to get to past Wexford would be great, where is it fixed for? Road trip possibly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on May 25, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
MR2, I believe the match will be in fortress Portlaoise ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 25, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
MR2, I believe the match will be in fortress Portlaoise ;)

Ok, I've got that in the diary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2014, 09:04:59 PM
Great result today and great character shown to both a) come back from half time and b) hold on.

No reason we can't beat wexford with the momentum and the more matches behind us.

Fair play to ryan and team though i wish he'd stop complaining about the leinster format as personally i think it's exactly what we need.

Nice to be upbeat as an antrim fan for a change ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 25, 2014, 09:25:22 PM
Kevin Ryan doing a great job atm. They will fancy their chances going to play Wexford now. Just goes to show that if you can get a group of dedicated fellas to all pull together in the one direction what can be achieved. Long may it continue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 25, 2014, 09:26:46 PM
Great result, a semi final against Dublin awaits the winners of Antrim/Wexford. Great incentive and on a roll. Antrim before profit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
HS will be running a bus down for this, outside Casement SC for 10am
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on May 25, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 25, 2014, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
Up the safrons!

I'm surprised they won in fairness, without the Loughgiel lads and NMcM picking the team, strange.....

Oh ffs lets not do that argument again.

Believe KR is making great inroads into changing the mindset and requirement to be an Antrim player. I think he's getting the right response from those prepared to put the shoulder to the wheel. Well done to all involved.

Forgot smilie ffs!! Sorry  ;)
;D You're a stirring shite!

shite stirring shite  ;D

Has SIE no opinion on this devastating .......................ahhhhhhhhh .............. victory?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
HS will be running a bus down for this, outside Casement SC for 10am
Maybe. I'm supposed to be in Donegal but if the interest is there, I have no issue getting a bus and selling the tickets.
Yes, I'm hearing that there will be a bus from Casement SC to Wexford game.

Carry out included?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
HS will be running a bus down for this, outside Casement SC for 10am
Maybe. I'm supposed to be in Donegal but if the interest is there, I have no issue getting a bus and selling the tickets.
Yes, I'm hearing that there will be a bus from Casement SC to Wexford game.

Carry out included?
"Drinkers".

I'm just a social drinker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2014, 11:54:21 PM
If you want to be on the bus, call into the club during the week and buy a ticket.
I'll hopefully have more info tomorrow night.

I might do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 26, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
A good win for Antrim against a highly regarded Laois team at home, not to be sniffed at.

There should be no fear of Wexford, but its hard to say if the week in week out games are beneficial of having momentum or detrimental in terms of exhaustion, appetite, but its a young enough team so recovery should be quicker.

It'll be one or the other come Sunday evening depending on the result.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 26, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2014, 09:04:59 PM
Great result today and great character shown to both a) come back from half time and b) hold on.

No reason we can't beat wexford with the momentum and the more matches behind us.

Fair play to ryan and team though i wish he'd stop complaining about the leinster format as personally i think it's exactly what we need.

Nice to be upbeat as an antrim fan for a change ;D

Wexford are going well, so KR mentioned in the IN. It would be a magnificent achievement if they could beat them. That would define real progress in my eyes (over and above beating a good Laois team). Lets hope Antrim can sustain momentum. KR has a point about the lack of preparation time going into the game. Its far from ideal regardless of what anyone might say about the good of competitive games. 3/4 days needed to recuperate. Lets hope we still have plenty in the tank.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on May 26, 2014, 04:33:12 PM
Some goin. Keep er lit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 26, 2014, 07:26:57 PM
Just back from Dublin. I was at the game. Undoubtedly the best Antrim performance for quite a while. Young McCann was brilliant in the last ten minutes. I left the place not being a fan of the Laois fans. A wee bit full of themselves to say the least.

And as for you blackandamber,  we're just getting on with the training lad. Nothing else for it. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
heading down to the game this sunday, a double header is a good idea, should be a big crowd at it.

hopefully Antrim support is there en-mass!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
How long do we reckon from Belfast to Portlaois?

I suspect the footballers are not going to get much support this year!

SIE fair play to you for going to all these games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on May 27, 2014, 09:39:29 AM
Two tough games lined up for the weekend. Will be in Brewster Park but fair play to KR for the great work he is doing and good luck to everyone involved in Portlaoise.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
How long do we reckon from Belfast to Portlaois?

I suspect the footballers are not going to get much support this year!

SIE fair play to you for going to all these games.

I'd say 2.30 hrs tommy, we are the first game at 2 so given time for additional traffic should leave around 11, couple pints job done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 27, 2014, 01:10:11 PM
This is going to be tough to get a result. Wexford have beat tipp and KK recently in challenge matches
We will drop a man back I would say in first half and try and keep score line tight
If we are in around 3 points adrift or in front going in to the last ten minutes and spring the likes of mc cann or young johnston from the bench then I fancy a win
On league form we most of our damage in that time
There will be a Wexford gameplan for shorty so we need other players to step up from play
Having said that if shorty has a good game then he can't be be ignored for an all star

Arron graffan  has a job to do on Jacob if he starts in the corner but no better man

All in all if the first half goes to plan very confident
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
How long do we reckon from Belfast to Portlaois?

I suspect the footballers are not going to get much support this year!

SIE fair play to you for going to all these games.

I'd say 2.30 hrs tommy, we are the first game at 2 so given time for additional traffic should leave around 11, couple pints job done

Cheers MR.

NAH far too early for all stars as usually only business end they care about... Yep Jacob(s) always cause us an awful lot of bother so hopefully Graffin or someone else can keep tabs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
How long do we reckon from Belfast to Portlaois?

I suspect the footballers are not going to get much support this year!

SIE fair play to you for going to all these games.

I'd say 2.30 hrs tommy, we are the first game at 2 so given time for additional traffic should leave around 11, couple pints job done

Cheers MR.

NAH far too early for all stars as usually only business end they care about... Yep Jacob(s) always cause us an awful lot of bother so hopefully Graffin or someone else can keep tabs.

I would like to see them go and have a real good cut at Wexford, dont worry about the Jacobs etc just be confident in their own ability and really put on a performance. If they do that I would say the result will take care of itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 27, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2014, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 09:29:13 AM
How long do we reckon from Belfast to Portlaois?

I suspect the footballers are not going to get much support this year!

SIE fair play to you for going to all these games.

I'd say 2.30 hrs tommy, we are the first game at 2 so given time for additional traffic should leave around 11, couple pints job done

Cheers MR.

NAH far too early for all stars as usually only business end they care about... Yep Jacob(s) always cause us an awful lot of bother so hopefully Graffin or someone else can keep tabs.

Sorry my mistake I meant all star nomination
If he has a good game v Wexford will be surprised if he isn't nominated
Ciaran Herron got a nomination with a top class performance in one match  against Wexford  funny enough

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
Yeah but that was in croke park in late july / early august when the journalists were actually watching the matches...

Hopefully he'll have another day out or two after this to prove himself and put himself in the shop window anyway. Big ask but no reason why not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Rip Jim Mc Clements. True gent. Sad to hear of his passing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 10:44:48 PM
Anyone at our game tonight at Loughgiel? I see we were only beaten by 3, without our county players so not a bad effort in fairness. I know Loughgiel would have had all their players available ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 10:44:48 PM
Anyone at our game tonight at Loughgiel? I see we were only beaten by 3, without our county players so not a bad effort in fairness. I know Loughgiel would have had all their players available ;)

Beat by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
7 30 PM Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-9 1-10 Naomh Gall Loughgiel Shamrocks  Mark O Neill  Round 5

Ah just seen this on the Antrim website, seems I was texted wrong result!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2014, 11:47:40 PM
Use are bound to be favourites for championship MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 29, 2014, 12:00:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Rip Jim Mc Clements. True gent. Sad to hear of his passing

+1

Epitome of the word gentleman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
who alls headinf to the match on sunday here?

im heading down myself for this game, good double header of hurling.

i did laugh at the antrim twitter page last night where it has listed the sky sports hurling coverage coming up and apparently we are beat already as they have the leinster semi final live of Dublin v Wexford!

should i bet my life savings on wexford then!!! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2014, 11:47:40 PM
Use are bound to be favourites for championship MR2

I'd say were are  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 29, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 29, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
who alls headinf to the match on sunday here?

im heading down myself for this game, good double header of hurling.

i did laugh at the antrim twitter page last night where it has listed the sky sports hurling coverage coming up and apparently we are beat already as they have the leinster semi final live of Dublin v Wexford!

should i bet my life savings on wexford then!!! lol
antrim are a crazy price. 6/1  worth £20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2014, 11:47:40 PM
Use are bound to be favourites for championship MR2

I'd say were are  ;D ;D ;D

You trying to  talk the prices up on your side MR so you can win siding with the opposition AGAIN?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 29, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2014, 11:47:40 PM
Use are bound to be favourites for championship MR2

I'd say were are  ;D ;D ;D

You trying to  talk the prices up on your side MR so you can win siding with the opposition AGAIN?  ;D

Using a different tact this year, we should be giving Loughgiel all they want in the final this year. They have had it too handy this last few years, so the drive for 5 will be derailed  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
Naomh gall have much potential. Pity about that oul bog ball.   :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
Naomh gall have much potential. Pity about that oul bog ball.   :-X

I'll always be associated within the club as a hurler and my first love is hurling for sure but I'm a clubman first and foremost. so while the success of the footballers (which has been immense) has maybe killed our chances of hurling success I'll not knock it

Made my debut for the senior footballers at 18 years of age when Charlie Sweeney took the seniors, Charlie has just passed away a couple of days ago, was a great fella to have about the club and wasn't afraid to take a chance.

RIP Charlie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on May 29, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
Totally agree MR2, Charlie was a total gentleman. If you were lucky enough to know Charlie, he would never pass by without a few words. Always had a smile and a good word for everyone. Taken too soon...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Just for you SiE;

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/2905140801-my-club-and-i-neil-mcmanus/

And he manages to combine this with being a selector on our county team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Just for you SiE;

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/2905140801-my-club-and-i-neil-mcmanus/

And he manages to combine this with being a selector on our county team!
yeah. I've already read it after he tweeted about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 31, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Just for you SiE;

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/2905140801-my-club-and-i-neil-mcmanus/

And he manages to combine this with being a selector on our county team!
yeah. I've already read it after he tweeted about it.

The photo in the article is Glenariffe, from the top of Lurig mountain  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2014, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 31, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Just for you SiE;

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/2905140801-my-club-and-i-neil-mcmanus/

And he manages to combine this with being a selector on our county team!
yeah. I've already read it after he tweeted about it.

The photo in the article is Glenariffe, from the top of Lurig mountain  ;D
haha. I noticed that. Most Beautiful glen of the lot glenarrife. During the Giro D'Italia when it was passing through cushendall the Eurosport coverage was calling it glenarrife as well. Maybe there's a twinning on the cards minder.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 09:17:00 AM
Only someone familiar with the glens and hurling could appreciate that distinction means so much more than geography!

Off to portlaoise tomorrow as a stopping post to dungarvan - I'm giving Antrim the nod in front of Thurles.
Hoping for a win which would be massive but thinking it will be Wexford's day by about 3 or 4 points.

Unless the great McManus from glenarrife can win it single handed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 09:50:58 AM
Just headin out the door. Long drive Ahead. I hope they put up a good performance. I still think it's a big Ask to beat Wexford. It's not beyond the realms of possibility. If I was a betting man with a penchant for betting against My own team ( ;)) I'd have a sneaky tenner on Wexford -5 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
Oh dear.  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
Oh dear.  :(

Is there a wind advantage? ffs that's the worst possible start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: INDIANA on June 01, 2014, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 02:17:30 PM
Oh dear.  :(

Is there a wind advantage? ffs that's the worst possible start

wexford have beaten Tipp in recent weeks , major step up in class for antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on June 01, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
Wexford 3-9 Antrim 0-10 Halftime
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 02:48:04 PM
Playing with breeze second half. Big ask though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:04:21 PM
4-14 to 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:14:21 PM
5-14 to 0-18
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:17:47 PM
Down to 14. Campbell sent off straight red. A bit harsh too be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:19:59 PM
5-15 - 0-20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
5-19 - 0-21 full time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 01, 2014, 03:35:30 PM
Rush to kavanaghs for the game from Thurles.
McManus can't be faulted he put a shift it.
Shiels gave a good account.
Scoreline says all with the goals and physically we were miles away.
Galway to put a score on Laois I think.
Thurles could be close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 02, 2014, 03:50:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 01, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
5-19 - 0-21 full time

Anybody with the appetite for an analysis of yesterday?

Car crash stuff at the beginning. I am a fan of Ryan but we were badly set up at the start to deal with the extremely strong wind which favoured Wexford.

Was bizarrely optimistic at half time given strength of the wind but didn't use it well in the second half. Appreciate that bodies and minds were tired after all the games and we needed a good start to the second half which didn't happen.

Ciaran Clarke in at full forward was never going to get the high ball played in on top of him. When Mattie Donnelly went in, the sweeper(s) in front picked up everything.

Have heard that Wexford were going very well in challenge games but still very disappointed at how the game played out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
The way we were setup to begin with, and no harm to McKinley, but the reluctance to move another defender onto their no 14 who was lording everything were big downfalls.

Some half decent performances from a few and some poor performances from others. While we were beat well and that's disappointing the number of errors we made at key times was disappointing as was Ryan's reluctance for change.

Jacob always causes us real problems and did again yesterday. The FF lorded it and they sweeped up significant amounts in defense.

I thought Conor McCann was excellent - at times McManus very good but could give the ball quicker. FF line suffered from lack of height / quality ball in. The space they got between their half and full forward lines in the first ten minutes was ridiculous. You could see it unfold. The FB line were left very isolated - I'm not sure if they pulled the HF line out to do this intentionally or not - more than likely though. Conor Carson also put in a big shift.

Again disappointing. Like most of us you always go to these games with a bit of hope thinking things will be different this time and it doesn't pan out like that but I do think there are still decent players in there. As has been said physically we maybe struggle but hopefully as we're young that will change. I thought some of the younger boys while perhaps overawed showed good ability with the simpler aspects of the game which is often our downfall against these teams. It was more in their half we were making the errors rather than our own.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 02, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Wouldn't disagree with much of that.
But I also thought despite our lack of shape (don't know if this was bad set up from the line or players lost run of themselves) the physicality was not on a par. Even our bigger lads were not using their bodies as effectively when fighting for possession.
And then there was another step up to the game in Thurles!

Also I think Ryan let's us down badly complaining about the schedule again.
Dry your eyes!
We want more games - and when we get them we complain they come as frequently?
You cannot have it both ways!
Do we expect the other counties to wait around on their games while Antrim play our own little competition first?
And that's not to mention the club players waiting on the procession ending!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 04:51:18 PM
I think the lack of break had a bearing in the Laois game. While it probably didn't help us I very much doubt a week's rest wouldn't have changed the outcome.

Laois should have won. The difference in the two performances yesterday given the result the previous week was quite staggering!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2014, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
The way we were setup to begin with, and no harm to McKinley, but the reluctance to move another defender onto their no 14 who was lording everything were big downfalls.

Some half decent performances from a few and some poor performances from others. While we were beat well and that's disappointing the number of errors we made at key times was disappointing as was Ryan's reluctance for change.

Jacob always causes us real problems and did again yesterday. The FF lorded it and they sweeped up significant amounts in defense.

I thought Conor McCann was excellent - at times McManus very good but could give the ball quicker. FF line suffered from lack of height / quality ball in. The space they got between their half and full forward lines in the first ten minutes was ridiculous. You could see it unfold. The FB line were left very isolated - I'm not sure if they pulled the HF line out to do this intentionally or not - more than likely though. Conor Carson also put in a big shift.

Again disappointing. Like most of us you always go to these games with a bit of hope thinking things will be different this time and it doesn't pan out like that but I do think there are still decent players in there. As has been said physically we maybe struggle but hopefully as we're young that will change. I thought some of the younger boys while perhaps overawed showed good ability with the simpler aspects of the game which is often our downfall against these teams. It was more in their half we were making the errors rather than our own.

have to agree with what you say. i thought we were all over the place at times. too many positional changes it was hard to keep up with where players were playing.

woody had a torrid time on the FF, the ball played into him was brilliant, no lofted high balls but fast head/chest height which he came for every time. gave the full back no chance to get at it.

they out thought us most of the game.

mc cann played well thoughout, mc manus as well but his reluctance to play first time ball in and rather run the ball was a comnon theme.

tired legs and minds on our side which isnt their fault. the few weeks rest will do us no harm. we have a solid panel of players now in there which is good to see, i want them to all stay there along with Ryan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 02, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Wouldn't disagree with much of that.
But I also thought despite our lack of shape (don't know if this was bad set up from the line or players lost run of themselves) the physicality was not on a par. Even our bigger lads were not using their bodies as effectively when fighting for possession.
And then there was another step up to the game in Thurles!

Also I think Ryan let's us down badly complaining about the schedule again.
Dry your eyes!
We want more games - and when we get them we complain they come as frequently?
You cannot have it both ways!
Do we expect the other counties to wait around on their games while Antrim play our own little competition first?
And that's not to mention the club players waiting on the procession ending!

it doesnt help whenever some clubs call games off either. cushendall called our game off wednesday past when we were wanting to play it. it became irrelvant after Jim McClemments passed away but it shows some clubs wont play without county players, something which at convention was it not pushed for to ensure club games continued?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 03, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 03, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 02, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Wouldn't disagree with much of that.
But I also thought despite our lack of shape (don't know if this was bad set up from the line or players lost run of themselves) the physicality was not on a par. Even our bigger lads were not using their bodies as effectively when fighting for possession.
And then there was another step up to the game in Thurles!

Also I think Ryan let's us down badly complaining about the schedule again.
Dry your eyes!
We want more games - and when we get them we complain they come as frequently?
You cannot have it both ways!
Do we expect the other counties to wait around on their games while Antrim play our own little competition first?
And that's not to mention the club players waiting on the procession ending!

it doesnt help whenever some clubs call games off either. cushendall called our game off wednesday past when we were wanting to play it. it became irrelvant after Jim McClemments passed away but it shows some clubs wont play without county players, something which at convention was it not pushed for to ensure club games continued?

They are not county players, they are club players representing the county.
No club should be forced to play without their own players.
Sure enough - this might lead to games being called off - but the solution is to allow these players to play - not to call games off.
Consider a club looking for a spot in the top half - or trying to avoid relegation - why should they not have their full team at the behest of the county manager dictated who can and cant play?
Like I said the solution is to allow the players to play - not to call games off.
Much simpler and much fairer - and will ultimately benefit the standard across the board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 03, 2014, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 03, 2014, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 02, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
The way we were setup to begin with, and no harm to McKinley, but the reluctance to move another defender onto their no 14 who was lording everything were big downfalls.

Some half decent performances from a few and some poor performances from others. While we were beat well and that's disappointing the number of errors we made at key times was disappointing as was Ryan's reluctance for change.

Jacob always causes us real problems and did again yesterday. The FF lorded it and they sweeped up significant amounts in defense.

I thought Conor McCann was excellent - at times McManus very good but could give the ball quicker. FF line suffered from lack of height / quality ball in. The space they got between their half and full forward lines in the first ten minutes was ridiculous. You could see it unfold. The FB line were left very isolated - I'm not sure if they pulled the HF line out to do this intentionally or not - more than likely though. Conor Carson also put in a big shift.

Again disappointing. Like most of us you always go to these games with a bit of hope thinking things will be different this time and it doesn't pan out like that but I do think there are still decent players in there. As has been said physically we maybe struggle but hopefully as we're young that will change. I thought some of the younger boys while perhaps overawed showed good ability with the simpler aspects of the game which is often our downfall against these teams. It was more in their half we were making the errors rather than our own.

have to agree with what you say. i thought we were all over the place at times. too many positional changes it was hard to keep up with where players were playing.

woody had a torrid time on the FF, the ball played into him was brilliant, no lofted high balls but fast head/chest height which he came for every time. gave the full back no chance to get at it.

they out thought us most of the game.

mc cann played well thoughout, mc manus as well but his reluctance to play first time ball in and rather run the ball was a comnon theme.

tired legs and minds on our side which isnt their fault. the few weeks rest will do us no harm. we have a solid panel of players now in there which is good to see, i want them to all stay there along with Ryan.

This quality ball all too often is possible because the lad delivering it isn't under enough pressure from his opposite number ala Tipp on Sunday. If Woody was to take a chance and play from the front he'd be fucked with the ball over his head, full forward baring down on goal, damned if you do and damned if you don't. Playing there at times you need to make a decision of the lesser of two evils, concede the point rather than give up goal opportunities!!

On the tiredness thing, didn't Laois have the same build up to the Galway game?

Not entirely sure that would be the issue, certainly the poor start and the fact that Wexford were not going to take Antrim lightly after the U-21's last year and beating Offaly and Laois in the previous months would have Wexford more up for it than Div1A Galway going out to play Div 2A Laois.
Its a back handed compliment that they weren't complacent and its the step up that Antrim need to make, beating good, but not great teams that aren't out for a run in the park.
That's the real challenge for the Laois's Antrims and Carlows of hurling.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2014, 10:10:36 AM
Tiredness played a part in the second half I think but not the first half. It's not the reason we got beat. Wexford were able to get goals at will.

The defenders chopped and changed a lot DR as you say. There are a few guys we have in defense who probably are more midfielders than defenders which I don't think, no harm to them, helped matters.

It was a frustrating game. The FF could get good ball because they were allowed to isolate him too and so there were acres of space in front. It's rare you'd see so much space in there.

I think it was more their half backs were getting the time to put ball in than the midfield.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 03, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 03, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 03, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 02, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Wouldn't disagree with much of that.
But I also thought despite our lack of shape (don't know if this was bad set up from the line or players lost run of themselves) the physicality was not on a par. Even our bigger lads were not using their bodies as effectively when fighting for possession.
And then there was another step up to the game in Thurles!

Also I think Ryan let's us down badly complaining about the schedule again.
Dry your eyes!
We want more games - and when we get them we complain they come as frequently?
You cannot have it both ways!
Do we expect the other counties to wait around on their games while Antrim play our own little competition first?
And that's not to mention the club players waiting on the procession ending!

it doesnt help whenever some clubs call games off either. cushendall called our game off wednesday past when we were wanting to play it. it became irrelvant after Jim McClemments passed away but it shows some clubs wont play without county players, something which at convention was it not pushed for to ensure club games continued?

They are not county players, they are club players representing the county.
No club should be forced to play without their own players.
Sure enough - this might lead to games being called off - but the solution is to allow these players to play - not to call games off.
Consider a club looking for a spot in the top half - or trying to avoid relegation - why should they not have their full team at the behest of the county manager dictated who can and cant play?
Like I said the solution is to allow the players to play - not to call games off.
Much simpler and much fairer - and will ultimately benefit the standard across the board.
Your argument doesn't hold much water considering the club that you where playing wanted the fixture to go ahead had two county players starting last Sunday
The dall have no fear of being relegated so that point is dodgy to
It's the leauge so no better time to try some new players and get a look at them
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2014, 04:20:47 PM
Wexford certainly play a fairly Orthodox game plan in the league so as not to show their hand too early in the season. They didn't try to much of it up in Ballycastle

Mind they beat us just as handily down in Wexford park a couple of years ago employing very similar tactics. Isolate our full back line and play quality ball in to quality forwards who know what to do with it. Tipp tried to do the same on Sunday but Richie McCarthy was on fire so he thwarted what more than likely was a big part of their gameplan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
On another note, was there any other no shows in the U21 championship last night?

GNM had to be phoned with our players in the changing room only to find out then they weren't coming down. Hardly respecting the game there  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on June 03, 2014, 07:09:22 PM
Just a good game of hurling in Ballycastle. Cushendall unfortunately beat us by 2. Either team would be in with a shout of winning the competition. Several county players and backbones of both senior teams playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 03, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 03, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 03, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 03, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 02, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Wouldn't disagree with much of that.
But I also thought despite our lack of shape (don't know if this was bad set up from the line or players lost run of themselves) the physicality was not on a par. Even our bigger lads were not using their bodies as effectively when fighting for possession.
And then there was another step up to the game in Thurles!

Also I think Ryan let's us down badly complaining about the schedule again.
Dry your eyes!
We want more games - and when we get them we complain they come as frequently?
You cannot have it both ways!
Do we expect the other counties to wait around on their games while Antrim play our own little competition first?
And that's not to mention the club players waiting on the procession ending!

it doesnt help whenever some clubs call games off either. cushendall called our game off wednesday past when we were wanting to play it. it became irrelvant after Jim McClemments passed away but it shows some clubs wont play without county players, something which at convention was it not pushed for to ensure club games continued?

They are not county players, they are club players representing the county.
No club should be forced to play without their own players.
Sure enough - this might lead to games being called off - but the solution is to allow these players to play - not to call games off.
Consider a club looking for a spot in the top half - or trying to avoid relegation - why should they not have their full team at the behest of the county manager dictated who can and cant play?
Like I said the solution is to allow the players to play - not to call games off.
Much simpler and much fairer - and will ultimately benefit the standard across the board.
Your argument doesn't hold much water considering the club that you where playing wanted the fixture to go ahead had two county players starting last Sunday
The dall have no fear of being relegated so that point is dodgy to
It's the leauge so no better time to try some new players and get a look at them


My point about relegation didn't apply to cushendall but to other clubs who may be without their players - I would have thought that was obvious.

The argument is simple - no club should be forced to play without players who are "away" on county duty - unless they want to.
If they've been deprived of players through no deed of their own - it's their prerogative not play.

You might believe it's a chance for others - but that's not your decision to make on behalf of clubs.

I repeat - the simple solution is to allow the players to play!
Level playing field for all and maintaining the standard of league games helps the county as a whole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on June 03, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
Cushendall are w**ks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 03, 2014, 11:10:20 PM
Getting beyond a joke now the amount of club games we have to play "without county players". These players are coached all the way up the juvenile ranks by hard working club volunteers and when they get to senior, if they are good enough, the county takes them and we are told to make do without them.

I think the players should be allowed to play for their clubs, nothing like playing competitive games. Games should never be cancelled. 90% of the hurlers in this county are held to ransom while Antrim are playing games. This is what causes the county apathy. I have heard players and managers saying, "the sooner Antrim get beat the better, we can then get on with playing games". Should never be this way. Let the players play, and Antrim will benefit as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2014, 11:19:57 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 03, 2014, 11:10:20 PM
Getting beyond a joke now the amount of club games we have to play "without county players". These players are coached all the way up the juvenile ranks by hard working club volunteers and when they get to senior, if they are good enough, the county takes them and we are told to make do without them.

I think the players should be allowed to play for their clubs, nothing like playing competitive games. Games should never be cancelled. 90% of the hurlers in this county are held to ransom while Antrim are playing games. This is what causes the county apathy. I have heard players and managers saying, "the sooner Antrim get beat the better, we can then get on with playing games". Should never be this way. Let the players play, and Antrim will benefit as well.

I'd say Antrim play twice as many game than they did 25 years ago and I share the concern nationally that there's a long term aspiration at Croke Park level to develop a 2 tier structure where county players get contracted out away from their clubs. Getting clubs skilled up to develop players and then pick the best from the bunch. Very soon the demands a county player will be such that they'll need recompense and at that point will be owned by their masters.

Maybe I am Victor Meldrews lovechild?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 03, 2014, 11:57:18 PM
Bonamargey & skull - I simply couldn't agree more!
The 2 tier agenda has precedent in other sports - it is happening before our eyes - and it will be irreversible.
The GAA we grew up with is not the one that exists now.
The next stage will be that we don't recognise it at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
well put it this way, we have played our season so far with only one game having woody on. Shorty hasnt hit leather for Dunloy this season. but, we are happy to do so. we have played all our games and havent complained about it.

this isnt the first time cushendall have done this, they did the same thing last year to us leaving a reserve game only to be played. my point is if the rest of the county have to do it why cant they? we are a dual club and have a number of our starting seniors playing football as well.

im not picking on cushendall, rather im irratated at the fact a club can decide what games suit them and when they feel they can simply decide it wont be played.

its irrelevant now as its done and its another game jammed into an already tight schedule.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2014, 09:51:56 AM
Shorty played against the Ports DR.

Cushendall will blame the structure of the league this year. Its as if it was made up without any consideration to the fact that the IC players would be flat out at the very same time clubs would be keen to get points on the board.

There's too many IC games and isolation between those players and their club team for my liking. Being so isolated geographically, I believe we are more reliant on the club games being as high quality and competitive as possible to ensure the game thrives. We don't have player or support base to fight on both fronts and succeed at both at the same time. Just my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 05, 2014, 10:00:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2014, 09:51:56 AM
Shorty played against the Ports DR.

Cushendall will blame the structure of the league this year. Its as if it was made up without any consideration to the fact that the IC players would be flat out at the very same time clubs would be keen to get points on the board.

There's too many IC games and isolation between those players and their club team for my liking. Being so isolated geographically, I believe we are more reliant on the club games being as high quality and competitive as possible to ensure the game thrives. We don't have player or support base to fight on both fronts and succeed at both at the same time. Just my opinion

Good points - I feel we will only increase that player base by allowing the club scene to flourish.
And not relegating it for a procession of county games going nowhere fast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2014, 10:23:55 AM
maybe the clubs could stand up to the county management and board. Oh wait.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on June 05, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 05, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
well put it this way, we have played our season so far with only one game having woody on. Shorty hasnt hit leather for Dunloy this season. but, we are happy to do so. we have played all our games and havent complained about it.

this isnt the first time cushendall have done this, they did the same thing last year to us leaving a reserve game only to be played. my point is if the rest of the county have to do it why cant they? we are a dual club and have a number of our starting seniors playing football as well.

im not picking on cushendall, rather im irratated at the fact a club can decide what games suit them and when they feel they can simply decide it wont be played.

its irrelevant now as its done and its another game jammed into an already tight schedule.

I know for a fact that it was member of the Dunloy management team that requested this game to be rescheduled.  Sorry to burst your bubble Dunloy Realist. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 05, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2014, 10:23:55 AM
maybe the clubs could stand up to the county management and board. Oh wait.......

Better late than never. We can but hope.
Turkeys continually voting for Christmas.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2014, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Larnegaa on June 05, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 05, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
well put it this way, we have played our season so far with only one game having woody on. Shorty hasnt hit leather for Dunloy this season. but, we are happy to do so. we have played all our games and havent complained about it.

this isnt the first time cushendall have done this, they did the same thing last year to us leaving a reserve game only to be played. my point is if the rest of the county have to do it why cant they? we are a dual club and have a number of our starting seniors playing football as well.

im not picking on cushendall, rather im irratated at the fact a club can decide what games suit them and when they feel they can simply decide it wont be played.

its irrelevant now as its done and its another game jammed into an already tight schedule.

I know for a fact that it was member of the Dunloy management team that requested this game to be rescheduled.  Sorry to burst your bubble Dunloy Realist. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

well i will burst yours, our manager was at the Laois game and asked the county wigbits to ensure the game was played. come monday it was called off.

go figure.

anyway with the death of Jim McClemments we wouldnt of played the game so its gone and done now.

as i said before, my pick isnt against their club rather the attitude. cdall is a team filled with young talent who can work with any team minus their county men, games should go ahead to give these younger lads a senior game who may not get the chance.

whats done is gone so it matters not, as ive said its yet another game jammed into a tight schedule we are all expected to meet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
Didn't Cushendall play the Sars without their county men and get beat?

I'd suggest after that, they're a bit more wary of playing games without their county players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 09:32:30 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
Didn't Cushendall play the Sars without their county men and get beat?

I'd suggest after that, they're a bit more wary of playing games without their county players.

Precisely!
And even more so - it's Cushendall's decision if they want to play without their players or not!
Not up to Dunloy to decide for them DR.

Bottom line remains they should not be in the position to start with - their players should be available for them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 09:32:30 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
Didn't Cushendall play the Sars without their county men and get beat?

I'd suggest after that, they're a bit more wary of playing games without their county players.

Precisely!
And even more so - it's Cushendall's decision if they want to play without their players or not!
Not up to Dunloy to decide for them DR.

Bottom line remains they should not be in the position to start with - their players should be available for them!

With the extended inter-county calendar then you will have to get used to club hurling in the months of October and November.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
No JC - I think county managers should have to get used to players being able to represent their clubs!
They should manage the teams - not the fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
No JC - I think county managers should have to get used to players being able to represent their clubs!
They should manage the teams - not the fixtures.

Are both not inextricably linked?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 06, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
The ironic thing about this, is the fact that this years division one format was proposed by Cushendall to help fixture congestion. Teams wouldn't have their county players in the early stages, but after the split would be back to full panels including the county men. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 06, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
So Ryan complains about the boys having 5 matches in 5 weeks yet has the boys out training on Tuesday night ?
Go figure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 06, 2014, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 06, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
No JC - I think county managers should have to get used to players being able to represent their clubs!
They should manage the teams - not the fixtures.

Are both not inextricably linked?

It might seem like it the way things are at the moment - but they shouldn't be.

Personally I think from the weekend before a county game no club games. Other than that they clubs play away with their players.
In terms of training the county can have call over them and the players got in with their clubs at their own arrangement.
The days of two tiers where players only see their clubs once the county scene ends have to stop - for the good of the GAA right across the country.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 07, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Can the match be seen on Nordie TV today? Its not listed on my planner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Can the match be seen on Nordie TV today? Its not listed on my planner.
the Kilkenny vs Offaly match is on sky sports lad. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 12:32:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Can the match be seen on Nordie TV today? Its not listed on my planner.
the Kilkenny vs Offaly match is on sky sports lad.

Football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 12:32:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 07, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
Can the match be seen on Nordie TV today? Its not listed on my planner.
the Kilkenny vs Offaly match is on sky sports lad.

Football?
leinster hurling championship.  Sky sports 3 at 6.30 of the pm.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
I think this is interesting in the club vs county debate. It seems donegal minor club managers aren't too happy about their players not being Allowed to line out for their clubs.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=217812
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 07, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
There's countless stories like this from across the county SiE.
My point always applied not just to Antrim.
Don't under estimate the cause being the cult of the professional manager - concerned only about their wages & reputation rather than GAA interests in the bigger picture.
Money corrupts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 07, 2014, 08:20:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.

So true - it's not rocket science.
But we know better up here in Antrim with all our Liam McCarthy wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.
The clubs can't even hold on to players in the summer what with boys heading off to SF* etc.

Chosen entirely at random  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.
The clubs can't even hold on to players in the summer what with boys heading off to SF* etc.

Chosen entirely at random  :D
the club in question have given the player their backing to go. Hell, good job he's not a county player training for the leinster championship and heading off to New York for a month and not a word said about it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2014, 05:41:04 PM
The player in question will probably contribute more to his club this season than some lads who are away with the county all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 09, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.
The clubs can't even hold on to players in the summer what with boys heading off to SF* etc.

Chosen entirely at random  :D
the club in question have given the player their backing to go. Hell, good job he's not a county player training for the leinster championship and heading off to New York for a month and not a word said about it.  ;)

you just cant help yourself, can you SIE, it must be hard lugging that big chip around  ::)

anyway, agree totally with btdtgtt, Club players should be playing with their clubs at all times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
All players are club players. Its the club who puts a hurl in their hand during the formative years, takes them to games, blitzes and what not for years on end until they're lucky enough to get selected.
Playing for your county is an honour and a representative thing, but you're first and foremost a club hurler.

I hate county managers and in some instances clubs making it hard for players to do both and with an expanded intercounty calendar more than ever they need to work together and not in isolation.

This year Antrim could possibly be playing in 7 or 8 championship games, not mentioning the debacle in February!!

When was the last time that happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
To be honest the number of games Antim will be playing this year will be too many.

After the wexford beating IMO the ship has sailed for the year and our county season should be over for us then all players should be free to play all club games.

Players having only played for their club once by June is a bit much. These clubs need the players blended into the team by championship time.

Don't get me wrong I think it was great to get that number of games but now I think it's maybe a step too far dragging things out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 09, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: Megaman on June 09, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 08, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 07, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
Brian Cody picks his teams on form according to Jamsie on Sky.  Outrageous!!  :-X

And he can do that because he has big panels and lads willing to put their neck on the line for the county, they have Junior intermediate county teams where lads can and usually do filter into the senior squad if they are good enough. We don't have that wealth of talent available nor willing to go that extra mile. Killkenny and other southern teams are in the middle of their group stages of championship, so again they have the other players who are up to a certain standard, albeit at club level
and they're also allowed to play for their clubs during the championship, until it's finished. Be that August or march.
The clubs can't even hold on to players in the summer what with boys heading off to SF* etc.

Chosen entirely at random  :D
the club in question have given the player their backing to go. Hell, good job he's not a county player training for the leinster championship and heading off to New York for a month and not a word said about it.  ;)

you just cant help yourself, can you SIE, it must be hard lugging that big chip around  ::)

anyway, agree totally with btdtgtt, Club players should be playing with their clubs at all times.
Talk to mr2 about that, he's a chip eater. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 09, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
the club in question have given the player their backing to go. Hell, good job he's not a county player training for the leinster championship and heading off to New York for a month and not a word said about it.  ;)

Young lads with no commitments should be allowed to go where ever they want before they settle down. Its an amateur sport. All the rest of us who have commitments are just jealous because we can't do it anymore. We'd all love to be a teenager again wouldn't we?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on June 09, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 09, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
the club in question have given the player their backing to go. Hell, good job he's not a county player training for the leinster championship and heading off to New York for a month and not a word said about it.  ;)

Young lads with no commitments should be allowed to go where ever they want before they settle down. Its an amateur sport. All the rest of us who have commitments are just jealous because we can't do it anymore. We'd all love to be a teenager again wouldn't we?
The most sensible post I've read on here in a long time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 11, 2014, 08:51:41 AM
senior feis cups games on tonight folks, Dunloy v Loughgiel is the pick of the the two semi finals.

looking forward to a good game tonight between us pair! good game for a neutral. hopefully it doesnt rain today as our pitch wasnt fit to take a game last night on it and it was closed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 12, 2014, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
U16A Hurling
Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-20
Cuchullains-Dunloy 19-22

Is this legit? Some match  :o

Yeah that's the score
Our u 16 squad are looking good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 12, 2014, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

Both teams nearly full strength
LG no watson hes globe trotting or johnny Campbell

Dunloy no shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 12, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Still weans both teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
U16A Hurling
Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-20
Cuchullains-Dunloy 19-22

Is this legit? Some match  :o

Average of more than a score a minute...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 10:16:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
U16A Hurling
Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-20
Cuchullains-Dunloy 19-22

Is this legit? Some match  :o

Average of more than a score a minute...

You and your number nerding ffs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 02:07:05 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.

should be a good game, if the dall dont call it off  ;D lol

Feis cup finals between the two clubs have always been a tight afair between us, think the last one played in waterfoot ended a draw and went to extra time didnt it?

i expect this one to be just as tight as the previous ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2014, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.

should be a good game, if the dall dont call it off  ;D lol

Feis cup finals between the two clubs have always been a tight afair between us, think the last one played in waterfoot ended a draw and went to extra time didnt it?

i expect this one to be just as tight as the previous ones.
the winners will be favourites for the championship surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2014, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.

should be a good game, if the dall dont call it off  ;D lol

Feis cup finals between the two clubs have always been a tight afair between us, think the last one played in waterfoot ended a draw and went to extra time didnt it?

i expect this one to be just as tight as the previous ones.
the winners will be favourites for the championship surely?

We are favourites ya daft mare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2014, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.

should be a good game, if the dall dont call it off  ;D lol

Feis cup finals between the two clubs have always been a tight afair between us, think the last one played in waterfoot ended a draw and went to extra time didnt it?

i expect this one to be just as tight as the previous ones.
the winners will be favourites for the championship surely?

I don't know I think ballycastle will be in the mix to
It's between those three ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Cushendall scored 3-36 in the feis and the mighty Loughgiel were beaten!

Anyone at Dunloy Loughgiel? Were they near having full teams out?

I was going to head over to the Cushendall V Carey Semi Final to see how Carey would get on, they were always going to be up against it, but when I heard before the game that Carey were going to be down 7 injured players, a walkover was inevitable with half of their team missing so I didn't bother going over. Should be a good final between Dunloy and Cushendall.

should be a good game, if the dall dont call it off  ;D lol

Feis cup finals between the two clubs have always been a tight afair between us, think the last one played in waterfoot ended a draw and went to extra time didnt it?

i expect this one to be just as tight as the previous ones.
Was that the one the Referee walked off the pitch due to the abuse from the Dunloy bench or players??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on June 14, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
U16A Hurling
Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-20
Cuchullains-Dunloy 19-22

Is this legit? Some match  :o

Is that correct or a typo??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on June 14, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
Dunloy realist. you must have a shorter memory than me. 3 years ago in the final in Ballymena when we played you without the county players we got hammered by 25 points. Total farce & if the same rules apply this year i wont even bother going to watch.And b4  you reply, Yes dunloy played without their 2 county players that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Kevin Ryan has had his contract extended by two years.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 14, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 14, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Kevin Ryan has had his contract extended by two years.  :-X

As county manager or fixtures manager?

What about Neil mc manus contract?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 14, 2014, 08:49:17 PM
Shamrocks unable to field in reserve tomorrow ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
Big win for Ballycastle against Loughgiel and Cushendall knocked up a big score also. Why was there only 3 games played in Div 1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 15, 2014, 11:43:20 PM
Shamrocks were missing a few, so I won't get too excited yet. Good performance from our boys all the same. Never easy to beat whatever team Loughgiel put on the field. Dunloy and Ballycran brought their game forward and played it last Sunday MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 15, 2014, 11:59:29 PM
I managed to catch a bit if the galls sars game MR2.
Was that McGreevy midfield?
Bit of a mis-match your lads were much more physical and energetic - worked so much harder. I think that'll be the nail in sarsfields as expected but naomh gall will hopefully stay up.
What do you think JohnnyCool about ports could go down?
That's a good win for Rossa HS? I'm surprised by the margin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 16, 2014, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: pullhard on June 14, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
U16A Hurling
Loughgiel Shamrocks 3-20
Cuchullains-Dunloy 19-22

Is this legit? Some match  :o

Is that correct or a typo??

its correct, it was before the senior match on wednesday night past
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2014, 09:23:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 15, 2014, 11:59:29 PM
I managed to catch a bit if the galls sars game MR2.
Was that McGreevy midfield?
Bit of a mis-match your lads were much more physical and energetic - worked so much harder. I think that'll be the nail in sarsfields as expected but naomh gall will hopefully stay up.
What do you think JohnnyCool about ports could go down?
That's a good win for Rossa HS? I'm surprised by the margin?

The way the league might split we might be in big trouble ourselves let alone Portaferry.

In reality we're already in the bottom section along with St Johns, Portaferry, Sars and St Galls.
We've to go to the bear pit and Corrigan in the second half of the year and there's no guarantees we'll get anything there so it'd be up to the home games of the Galls and Ports.

It seems we go one step forward and two back at the minute, got a few lads back from injury and prolonged breaks and we lose our keeper to an ACL, (his third one) and a young lad who'd being playing full back went down badly on his knee and he's due a scan this week, so potentially not good for him either.

We'll do well to stay up IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:39:33 AM
If we are lucky enough to beat Ballycran next week at home we might be in with a shout of staying in the top half. But the Crans have been doing rightly, beating Dunloy last week also so not a given. St Johns have played only 4 games, surely there is a cut off time for the league and if they haven't played their games they'll lose out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 16, 2014, 12:08:48 PM
That's 2 games in a week we've lost.  We were missing a few players on both occasions but would of been nice to get a result.

The big thing in both games was the concession of 8 goals (3 v Dunloy and 5 v Ballycastle) some of which were very sloppy.  I'd like to see this put tight in the next few weeks once we get a settled defence again.

Loughgiel have also been rotating the keeper position in recent weeks which can't help continuity at the back.  I know we are lucky to have 2 great goalkeepers but I feel management will have to bite the bullet and pick their man for the championship soon to ensure we go into these games with a settled backline unit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:39:33 AM
If we are lucky enough to beat Ballycran next week at home we might be in with a shout of staying in the top half. But the Crans have been doing rightly, beating Dunloy last week also so not a given. St Johns have played only 4 games, surely there is a cut off time for the league and if they haven't played their games they'll lose out?


That's a good 1, Galls man talking cut off dates. Do u guys not usually slip in about 6 games in the last two weeks of each league campaign, when everyone has clocked off ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2014, 09:39:33 AM
If we are lucky enough to beat Ballycran next week at home we might be in with a shout of staying in the top half. But the Crans have been doing rightly, beating Dunloy last week also so not a given. St Johns have played only 4 games, surely there is a cut off time for the league and if they haven't played their games they'll lose out?


That's a good 1, Galls man talking cut off dates. Do u guys not usually slip in about 6 games in the last two weeks of each league campaign, when everyone has clocked off ;)

Not us, we only concern ourselves with Championship, league to give lads run out to see if they are any good :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2014, 04:52:43 PM
Just seen the process for the qualifiers.

Good god of almighty is our same pool of teams just going to keep playing each other?
Last one to win stays in?

I will agree with Ryan on this - the format is a joke!

But it's got nothing to do with opposition or match frequency!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 20, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
How does the draw work! Is it not just an open draw with Antrim, Laois, Wexford, Offaly, Waterford, Clare and loser of Galway/kk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 20, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 20, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
How does the draw work! Is it not just an open draw with Antrim, Laois, Wexford, Offaly, Waterford, Clare and loser of Galway/kk

There is a number of ways but basically we could draw Offaly or Wexford could play Laois.
Boring repetition - although perhaps better than drawing Clare!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2014, 03:03:43 PM
Can anyone shed some light on the U21 hurling championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 21, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Cushendall have up in their Facebook page that St Johns have refused to field in today's final, so the trophy has been awarded to Cushendall. Why would a club refuse to play a county championship final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2014, 05:12:00 PM
I was told it was fixed for the week before the Senior County championship by a Johnnies man yesterday, strange
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2014, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 21, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Cushendall have up in their Facebook page that St Johns have refused to field in today's final, so the trophy has been awarded to Cushendall. Why would a club refuse to play a county championship final?
They wouldn't play as they've a player playing for Antrim minors tomorrow. Allegedly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on June 21, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
Total and utter disgrace that St John's won't field tonight in U21 Championship, all because 3 players went on a jolly to America.

Between having meetings with wee Joe to get match off because off Feile, then because of pitch availability, then asking Kevin Ryan to get it postponed due to county fixtures, then finally an injury crisis on morning of the match, unreal!!

I think they should get fined to the hilt and banned from this competition for the next few years. Pure awful decision in not fielding and anyone who says they shouldn't, well that tells another story
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2014, 06:36:14 PM
What would the expected result have been?

Sounds like this will end up in a committee room again - the johnnies are not the sort of club to do much without a motive!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 12:11:47 PM
Great representation from Antrim clubs this weekend in the Féile, with many clubs going deep into Sunday

The weather really helped make it an unforgettable weekend.

Gutted for our lads just missing out at the final hurdle against a strong Kevin Lynches team in the Div1 cup final, but very very proud as I'm sure all clubs are of how they represented their club and county 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 23, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Skull - was that the Division 1 final your boys played in?  Or the second or third tier of the wider event?

If not the top tier, do you know who won the top tier?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 23, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Skull - was that the Division 1 final your boys played in?  Or the second or third tier of the wider event?

If not the top tier, do you know who won the top tier?

Can someone explain the new feile structures to me?

While I would love for the All Ireland under 14 final to have been between Dunloy and Dungiven, it appears there was another feile "final" in Thurles over the weekend with Kilmacud Crokes beating Midleton.

Have the "top" teams in the "top" counties been taken out of the competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 23, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Skull - was that the Division 1 final your boys played in?  Or the second or third tier of the wider event?

If not the top tier, do you know who won the top tier?

Can someone explain the new feile structures to me?

While I would love for the All Ireland under 14 final to have been between Dunloy and Dungiven, it appears there was another feile "final" in Thurles over the weekend with Kilmacud Crokes beating Midleton.

Have the "top" teams in the "top" counties been taken out of the competition?

Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 23, 2014, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 23, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Skull - was that the Division 1 final your boys played in?  Or the second or third tier of the wider event?

If not the top tier, do you know who won the top tier?

Can someone explain the new feile structures to me?

While I would love for the All Ireland under 14 final to have been between Dunloy and Dungiven, it appears there was another feile "final" in Thurles over the weekend with Kilmacud Crokes beating Midleton.

Have the "top" teams in the "top" counties been taken out of the competition?

Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.

Kilmacud Crokes won the main event in Thurles where I think its played off as a one day event.

TBH something had to be done to stop it getting too serious with teams away on training holidays, bringing another 15 lads for the parades and what not.

How were the representatives from the traditional hurling strongholds who came North at the weekend selected?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 23, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
I hear the qualifier against Offaly is to be played in ballycastle this Sunday coming at 2pm. Will the result be the same as last time they played up there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.

Suggest a format that would work NAG? Johnny has pointed out that it was going down a questionable path so I can at least see why it was changed.

Div1 this year would have been essentially Div2 in previous years

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.

Suggest a format that would work NAG? Johnny has pointed out that it was going down a questionable path so I can at least see why it was changed.

Div1 this year would have been essentially Div2 in previous years

Did Antrim ever have a team (teams?) compete in Division 1? I know they have had teams win Division 2 in the past but there doesn't appear to be promotion/relegation between the Divisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.

Suggest a format that would work NAG? Johnny has pointed out that it was going down a questionable path so I can at least see why it was changed.

Div1 this year would have been essentially Div2 in previous years

Did Antrim ever have a team (teams?) compete in Division 1? I know they have had teams win Division 2 in the past but there doesn't appear to be promotion/relegation between the Divisions.

Don't know how that works myself. Cant see promotion/relegation working considering its a totally different team the following year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 07:31:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Yes

To the detriment of the overall tournament but that doesnt seem to matter to the top brass. Again its a case of the strong getting stronger and forgetting the rest.

Great weekend but just a shame that it has been split in this manner.

Suggest a format that would work NAG? Johnny has pointed out that it was going down a questionable path so I can at least see why it was changed.

Div1 this year would have been essentially Div2 in previous years

There was nothing wrong with original format IMO it just needed the clubs to adhere to the spirit of the competition.  Any clubs who didnt should have had sanctions, it is as much about the development of them as young adults as it is about winning and this got lost with a few clubs taking it way to seriously.

It is meant to be a fesitval of hurling, making connections and bringing clubs together forming new bonds and friendships, to me there is something missing if you split it up. If the top counties want to play in a separate competition then they could do so at another date, especially if it played over one day as it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2014, 07:31:10 PM
There was nothing wrong with original format IMO it just needed the clubs to adhere to the spirit of the competition.  Any clubs who didnt should have had sanctions, it is as much about the development of them as young adults as it is about winning and this got lost with a few clubs taking it way to seriously.

It is meant to be a fesitval of hurling, making connections and bringing clubs together forming new bonds and friendships, to me there is something missing if you split it up. If the top counties want to play in a separate competition then they could do so at another date, especially if it played over one day as it is.

Your opinion yes, but you can't say the Feile committee didnt canvass opinions and come to a different conclusion.

http://www.galwaygaa.ie/more-info-6/97-latest-news-2013/759-national-feile-2014-information (http://www.galwaygaa.ie/more-info-6/97-latest-news-2013/759-national-feile-2014-information)

These innovations aim to promote:
• a greater level of participation by clubs in Féile;
• a games programme that facilitates the participation of teams that are equal or close to equal in standard
• an all-island games' programme for u14 players during Féile weekend.

Not saying I'd be that happy with the top sides being left out  but I'd be in agreement with the findings and the intent to get participation levels up across the island

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 23, 2014, 11:54:31 PM
Really interesting debate on feile.
Clear to see problems - solutions not so evident.
The gap between the big clubs and most of them now from Dublin is evident at U-14.
I suppose the notion of spirit in the competition has long since died at the expense of winning - often driven by adults!

Heard a few rumours on the St. John's situation but nothing concrete if anyone can shed some light?

As for the county - another game against Offaly?
How novel!
How many time have we played them this year?
Wake me up when it's all over zzzzzz.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 24, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
this will be the 4th time this year we will have played them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 23, 2014, 12:21:03 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 23, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
Skull - was that the Division 1 final your boys played in?  Or the second or third tier of the wider event?

If not the top tier, do you know who won the top tier?

Can someone explain the new feile structures to me?

While I would love for the All Ireland under 14 final to have been between Dunloy and Dungiven, it appears there was another feile "final" in Thurles over the weekend with Kilmacud Crokes beating Midleton.

Have the "top" teams in the "top" counties been taken out of the competition?

Didn't know that it had been split.  I was actually impressed thinking that Dunloy and Dungiven had won the main event.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Didn't know that it had been split.  I was actually impressed thinking that Dunloy and Dungiven had won the main event.

The Div1 Feile is almost always won by clubs who have a massive pick at juvenile agegroups

Kilmacrud who won the tournament in Thurles, have teams at U8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16

At U14 they have 2 Teams, so with that kind of pick, you're always going to hammering clubs who can only put out U8/10/12/14/16 panels (most of them need to overlap as well). Its not a matter of their top players being any better than everyone elses top players, its just they have more of them. Not much you can do there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 24, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Didn't know that it had been split.  I was actually impressed thinking that Dunloy and Dungiven had won the main event.

The Div1 Feile is almost always won by clubs who have a massive pick at juvenile agegroups

Kilmacrud who won the tournament in Thurles, have teams at U8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16

At U14 they have 2 Teams, so with that kind of pick, you're always going to hammering clubs who can only put out U8/10/12/14/16 panels (most of them need to overlap as well). Its not a matter of their top players being any better than everyone elses top players, its just they have more of them. Not much you can do there.

Other than ensure your 14 year olds are every bit as well coached as the Crokes 14 year olds and so on down through the age groups, something which we're possibly still lacking.
The Crokes have three full time coaches under their watch, that's what you're up against.

Three of the Crokes last Feile winning team lined out for Dublin minors on Saturday and that is seen as a success for the coaching and management of the Crokes minors. Competition for places is intense in Dublin with young fellas prepared to do whatever it takes to make the intercounty hurling teams. I can't speak for Antrim, but thats an alien concept in Down.

At a local level I never get overly excited about underage wins or results, moreso the attitude and ability of the individuals involved as there's a hope that it'll all come good at senior level when there's enough like-minded players coming together over several age groups.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2014, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 24, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Didn't know that it had been split.  I was actually impressed thinking that Dunloy and Dungiven had won the main event.

The Div1 Feile is almost always won by clubs who have a massive pick at juvenile agegroups

Kilmacrud who won the tournament in Thurles, have teams at U8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16

At U14 they have 2 Teams, so with that kind of pick, you're always going to hammering clubs who can only put out U8/10/12/14/16 panels (most of them need to overlap as well). Its not a matter of their top players being any better than everyone elses top players, its just they have more of them. Not much you can do there.

Other than ensure your 14 year olds are every bit as well coached as the Crokes 14 year olds and so on down through the age groups

I thought that went without saying.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 25, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Didn't know that it had been split.  I was actually impressed thinking that Dunloy and Dungiven had won the main event.

The Div1 Feile is almost always won by clubs who have a massive pick at juvenile agegroups

Kilmacrud who won the tournament in Thurles, have teams at U8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16

At U14 they have 2 Teams, so with that kind of pick, you're always going to hammering clubs who can only put out U8/10/12/14/16 panels (most of them need to overlap as well). Its not a matter of their top players being any better than everyone elses top players, its just they have more of them. Not much you can do there.

Couldn't agree more
The old format of clubs with huge numbers having an advantage wasn't really fair
There's as many people in dublin as there is in the whole of the north
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 02:43:24 PM
Whats the thoughts then for the match at the weekend?

Would show some progress to beat Offaly again, realistically it is a game we should be looking to win having it at home etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Two down 2 up, was the format last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)

Only if its Ballycastle lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)

Only if its Ballycastle lol


I seem to remember Ballycastle recently taking their year in Division 2 and winning it to get back up?However again last year we changed to accommodate Down teams in our leagues!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 26, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)

Only if its Ballycastle lol


I seem to remember Ballycastle recently taking their year in Division 2 and winning it to get back up?However again last year we changed to accommodate Down teams in our leagues!

Yip, OR it could be said the changes were to allow two Belfast teams to come up which I'd suggest was the greater motivation rather than save us from playing in Div2 which we have done in the not too distant past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: winghalfback on June 26, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
Whens the feis cup final this year and who is in it? Normally a good day out when a squad of us go up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2014, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 26, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)

Only if its Ballycastle lol


I seem to remember Ballycastle recently taking their year in Division 2 and winning it to get back up?However again last year we changed to accommodate Down teams in our leagues!

Yip, OR it could be said the changes were to allow two Belfast teams to come up which I'd suggest was the greater motivation rather than save us from playing in Div2 which we have done in the not too distant past.

It's a long standing joke hurler24, they did indeed win Div 2 not so long ago (I was briefly looking after our seniors) they won the league and went straight back up and have improved considerably since. Possible title contenders
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 26, 2014, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2014, 12:25:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 26, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2014, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on June 25, 2014, 04:07:34 PM
I don't think we have anything at all to fear v Offaly on Sunday and the fixture has a win for us written all over it.

p.s. Anyone know how many teams are relegated from our ACHL Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and also, how many teams are promoted?

Do they not normally wait to see who has been relegated first to see if they need to reformat the leagues the following year, I thought that was SOP.  ;)

Only if its Ballycastle lol


I seem to remember Ballycastle recently taking their year in Division 2 and winning it to get back up?However again last year we changed to accommodate Down teams in our leagues!

Yip, OR it could be said the changes were to allow two Belfast teams to come up which I'd suggest was the greater motivation rather than save us from playing in Div2 which we have done in the not too distant past.

It's a long standing joke hurler24, they did indeed win Div 2 not so long ago (I was briefly looking after our seniors) they won the league and went straight back up and have improved considerably since. Possible title contenders

Do you think they could beat the favourites St Galls?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
I doubt it. With injuries suspensions fatigue all coming from the other side of the draw it will be a walkover ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 26, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
I doubt it. With injuries suspensions fatigue all coming from the other side of the draw it will be a walkover ffs

Ah but they won't have the football injuries either MR2?
If only those pesky glens men would make it fair and be a real GAA club playing football as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 26, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
I am sure some of you will remember Conrad McDonnell hurling for Glenariffe in the late 80's and then Cushendun from 1992 onwards. He was involved in a very serious car accident in Belgium, hopefully he pulls through but reports are that he is gravely injured.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2014, 09:53:37 PM
I wish Antrim had a spoonful of the Kilkenny magic. Unreal team. Brilliant. Galway weren't bad, in fact they were pretty good. They just couldn't raise it again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Heart breaking finish there and possibly the worst thing was the feeling in the crowd that Offaly would steal it all along.
Bith sides guilty of missing chances which demonstrated how neither is ready to play the big boys.
Feel for the players today however.
Well done again the the ballycastle club a great day and they do a smashing job of hosting games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2014, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 29, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
Heart breaking finish there and possibly the worst thing was the feeling in the crowd that Offaly would steal it all along.
Bith sides guilty of missing chances which demonstrated how neither is ready to play the big boys.
Feel for the players today however.
Well done again the the ballycastle club a great day and they do a smashing job of hosting games.

Thats about the height of it. Feel sorry for the players. Some really gritty performances. Very dubious free given by James McGrath there at the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 29, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
When word came through to Clones of the Antrim goal we all thought game over, gut wrenching stuff. Watched the Antrim minors, it looked like their first run out this year. A waste of diesel for all concernerd. The disparity in the treatment of the hurlers in comparison to the footballers doesnt help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 29, 2014, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Knocked the heart right out of me. We should not have lost that game....but did.

James McGrath can go and fcuk into the bargain. What he gave that free for Ill never know. b**tard.

That's my feeling on McGrath to, he never blew the whistle to be realized cricky was clean through and heading for goal

We should have been further in front to take the hit, missed some feirce sitters you would put your house on

Our goalie was keeping us in there to. For the amount of time we out hurled them it was a very slender lead when mc grath used his influence

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 29, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
When word came through to Clones of the Antrim goal we all thought game over, gut wrenching stuff. Watched the Antrim minors, it looked like their first run out this year. A waste of diesel for all concernerd. The disparity in the treatment of the hurlers in comparison to the footballers doesnt help.

By ulster council (that's a given) or by our own county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 29, 2014, 07:58:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Knocked the heart right out of me. We should not have lost that game....but did.

James McGrath can go and fcuk into the bargain. What he gave that free for Ill never know. b**tard.

What did he give that free for? Had a gut feeling Offaly would sneak a goal. Fcukin gutted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 29, 2014, 08:19:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 29, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 29, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
When word came through to Clones of the Antrim goal we all thought game over, gut wrenching stuff. Watched the Antrim minors, it looked like their first run out this year. A waste of diesel for all concernerd. The disparity in the treatment of the hurlers in comparison to the footballers doesnt help.

By ulster council (that's a given) or by our own county?
County, footballers decked out in the best and the hurlers get something they found in a cupboard in O'Neills. Not the only problem in the squad granted but it disappointing it crops up every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on June 30, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
Nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 30, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
The minor hurling panelists would say different. Maybe the footballers have external funding which is fine but we are certainly very good at creating the impression that juvenile hurling is the poor relation. We were without doubt the worst turned out squad in Clones on Sunday. My own personal view is that this does nothing to foster a sense of identity and common purpose. Not the be all and end all but doesn't help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 30, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
The minor hurling panelists would say different. Maybe the footballers have external funding which is fine but we are certainly very good at creating the impression that juvenile hurling is the poor relation. We were without doubt the worst turned out squad in Clones on Sunday. My own personal view is that this does nothing to foster a sense of identity and common purpose. Not the be all and end all but doesn't help.

The time sambo and woody was in charge of shorty and co at minor
They raised there own funds for kit and trips to south etc
Never rely on co board for such obligatory supply's
Management has to sort that stuff out unfortunately

I don't know the football management but I'd say they where more resourceful

I would be more worried by the result   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 30, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
I'm not sure management should have to concern themselves with fundraising!

Might be symptomatic and indicative of Antrim compared to other counties but this should not be the case - they should be left to concentrate on running the team while officers out finance in place.

Well done to any management set up that sources it's own resources but like I say the responsibility lies elsewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 01, 2014, 09:31:20 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 30, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
I'm not sure management should have to concern themselves with fundraising!

Might be symptomatic and indicative of Antrim compared to other counties but this should not be the case - they should be left to concentrate on running the team while officers out finance in place.

Well done to any management set up that sources it's own resources but like I say the responsibility lies elsewhere.

Thats mad Ted.

I have to say the Down hurlers have never been treated so well, right the way up through all the development squads to the senior hurlers, grub every night after training as well as all the gear they need.

I knew a lad involved with Armagh hurling and he said they were very well looked after as well.


On the game on Sunday I think Antrim were on the receiving end of what we always knew, to beat a traditional hurling county you need to be 10 plus points better than them as if its close, the rub of the green will not go your way.
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 01, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 30, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
The minor hurling panelists would say different. Maybe the footballers have external funding which is fine but we are certainly very good at creating the impression that juvenile hurling is the poor relation. We were without doubt the worst turned out squad in Clones on Sunday. My own personal view is that this does nothing to foster a sense of identity and common purpose. Not the be all and end all but doesn't help.

That is very disappointing to read. I thought things were beginning to improve at underage level generally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on July 01, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on June 30, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
Nonsense.

Explain why this is nonsense as it's not the first time it has been said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on July 01, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Quote from: winghalfback on June 26, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
Whens the feis cup final this year and who is in it? Normally a good day out when a squad of us go up.
Someone told me today it was in Loughgiel on Sunday but he was a bit vague about details. It may well be somewhere else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Its in Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 01, 2014, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Its in Glenariffe

The home of hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 02, 2014, 12:35:38 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 31, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2014, 08:26:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 31, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Just for you SiE;

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/2905140801-my-club-and-i-neil-mcmanus/

And he manages to combine this with being a selector on our county team!
yeah. I've already read it after he tweeted about it.

The photo in the article is Glenariffe, from the top of Lurig mountain  ;D

Reminds me if this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 02, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
good read that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2014, 12:56:19 AM
Good wins today for both our Seniors and 16s at the Feis

Was expecting a soaking but turned out a great day down the Glens.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 07, 2014, 08:32:26 AM
made for a good weekend with the footballers winning the final on sat night as well.

hurling match on sunday was a good game. nice to see shorty back for us again. thought he played brilliant in centre half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 08:33:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 07, 2014, 12:56:19 AM
Good wins today for both our Seniors and 16s at the Feis

Was expecting a soaking but turned out a great day down the Glens.

Great result and great wheather
Well done to Glenariff for being great feis host
But the midges down there are on steroids
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Well done to Dunloy, better team won and should have been more in it.

But guys are yous serious, that whats far from a good game, the first half in particular was played at pedestrian pace. And i was talking to Dunloy folk at half-time who said the same.

Second half was a bit better but not by much.

Agree shorty had a good game, playing the best hurling in Antrim at the minute by a country mile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Well done to Dunloy, better team won and should have been more in it.

But guys are yous serious, that whats far from a good game, the first half in particular was played at pedestrian pace. And i was talking to Dunloy folk at half-time who said the same.

Second half was a bit better but not by much.

Agree shorty had a good game, playing the best hurling in Antrim at the minute by a country mile.

The man on the tanoy thought it was " a grand game of hurling"
We hit 22 points. When the dall turned up the wick in the second half with more tempo we responded
Imm happy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Well done to Dunloy, better team won and should have been more in it.

But guys are yous serious, that whats far from a good game, the first half in particular was played at pedestrian pace. And i was talking to Dunloy folk at half-time who said the same.

Second half was a bit better but not by much.

Agree shorty had a good game, playing the best hurling in Antrim at the minute by a country mile.

The man on the tanoy thought it was " a grand game of hurling"
We hit 22 points. When the dall turned up the wick in the second half with more tempo we responded
Imm happy enough

it was as exciting as he sounded on that tannoy.

im sure you where happy with your performance, but that still doesn't make it a good game of hurling  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2014, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Megaman on July 07, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Well done to Dunloy, better team won and should have been more in it.

But guys are yous serious, that whats far from a good game, the first half in particular was played at pedestrian pace. And i was talking to Dunloy folk at half-time who said the same.

Second half was a bit better but not by much.

Agree shorty had a good game, playing the best hurling in Antrim at the minute by a country mile.

The man on the tanoy thought it was " a grand game of hurling"
We hit 22 points. When the dall turned up the wick in the second half with more tempo we responded
Imm happy enough

it was as exciting as he sounded on that tannoy.

im sure you where happy with your performance, but that still doesn't make it a good game of hurling  ::)

The man on the mic got it exactly right, it was a grand game of hurling, no one really exerted themselves more than they needed too. Some nice scores some decent play mixed with some slow paced and bad decisions for both. I dont think either will be taking much from it for championship.

But it was exactly what the feis is about a nice game for people to watch, no bother, everyone home happy with no fuss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 07, 2014, 10:58:17 AM
I thought the flatness of the crowd killed the atmosphere not the other way round. Must be getting too civilised. On the pitch though it looked a fairly full blooded affair with the Brendan McSparran allowing plenty go (some difference to the U16 game which was the other end of the refereeing spectrum). There's no way you could have said the effort from the players wasn't fully committed. Certainly some poor decision was made, but no more than many's a game. Effort and endeavor was on show and some great passages of play. It was an enjoyable game to watch from my POV.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2014, 12:19:55 PM
Won't matter a feck come Championship that's for sure. That's a serious side of the draw that you lot are in this year, come the final whoever gets through from that side will be well earned, battle hardened and massive favourites for the title.

Was in Ballycran yesterday and for a team at the top of the league by 5 points I wasn't overly impressed by Ballycran, maybe they were missing a load of players but they scrapped past the Johnnies, who in turn missed a right few scores. Now Ballycran hammered us at home so I was expecting a slick outfit, as wee beat the Johnnies handy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2014, 12:19:55 PM
Won't matter a feck come Championship that's for sure. That's a serious side of the draw that you lot are in this year, come the final whoever gets through from that side will be well earned, battle hardened and massive favourites for the title.

Was in Ballycran yesterday and for a team at the top of the league by 5 points I wasn't overly impressed by Ballycran, maybe they were missing a load of players but they scrapped past the Johnnies, who in turn missed a right few scores. Now Ballycran hammered us at home so I was expecting a slick outfit, as wee beat the Johnnies handy.

Was down playing recently in ulster semi
A lot of cran players on the panel I would say they where missing some normal starters or tired
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2014, 12:19:55 PM
Won't matter a feck come Championship that's for sure. That's a serious side of the draw that you lot are in this year, come the final whoever gets through from that side will be well earned, battle hardened and massive favourites for the title.

Was in Ballycran yesterday and for a team at the top of the league by 5 points I wasn't overly impressed by Ballycran, maybe they were missing a load of players but they scrapped past the Johnnies, who in turn missed a right few scores. Now Ballycran hammered us at home so I was expecting a slick outfit, as wee beat the Johnnies handy.

Was down playing recently in ulster semi
A lot of cran players on the panel I would say they where missing some normal starters or tired

9 or 10 Crans on the Down panel who played on Saturday in Armagh.

Johnnies squeezing in those last fixtures I see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 07, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Does anyone know when the cut off point is and how the league stands at the minute?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 07, 2014, 02:17:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 07, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Does anyone know when the cut off point is and how the league stands at the minute?

Up to date league table is on http://www.antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/?compID=35219&leagueTable=y (http://www.antrimgaa.net/fixtures-results/?compID=35219&leagueTable=y)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 08, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
dunloy play cushendall this friday night in cushendall. think we only have St Galls at home left to play before the cut off point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 08, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
dunloy play cushendall this friday night in cushendall. think we only have St Galls at home left to play before the cut off point.

Yep, that's right, the 20th I think. We are just going to take it easy on ya's as we have put our championship prep into motion :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness

No Clarke in these transfers? I'd certainly have him onboard, PJ would be a great addition also, possibly McAfee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness

No Clarke in these transfers? I'd certainly have him onboard, PJ would be a great addition also, possibly McAfee

No LG men, they will be loving this low key build up in the drive for 5  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 03:21:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness

No Clarke in these transfers? I'd certainly have him onboard, PJ would be a great addition also, possibly McAfee

No LG men, they will be loving this low key build up in the drive for 5  ;)

Have Loughgiel not already achieved this?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness

No Clarke in these transfers? I'd certainly have him onboard, PJ would be a great addition also, possibly McAfee

No LG men, they will be loving this low key build up in the drive for 5  ;)

Mc closkey a good hurler but likes the spaces which isn't around as much at county level
Watson fantastic hurler but wouldn't have him about the place

Pj o Connell and Clarke if you need a striker so to speak
Young mc caughan from ballycastle woukd be cheaper than them and good be as good
If Armstrong would choose hurling over football would buy him no probs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 08, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2014, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 08, 2014, 02:15:25 PM
Johnnies great for manipulating fixtures!

I agree with MR2 - nothing matters be it feis or league - until championship.

Quick pointless question?
Who would be top of Antrim transfer market at the moment?!
Shorty get my vote!
Others - Watson or McManus?
McCloskey, graffin?
McAuley?

Shorty
Mc manus
N Auley
Graffin
Mc Guinness

No Clarke in these transfers? I'd certainly have him onboard, PJ would be a great addition also, possibly McAfee

No LG men, they will be loving this low key build up in the drive for 5  ;)

Mc closkey a good hurler but likes the spaces which isn't around as much at county level
Watson fantastic hurler but wouldn't have him about the place

Pj o Connell and Clarke if you need a striker so to speak
Young mc caughan from ballycastle woukd be cheaper than them and good be as good
If Armstrong would choose hurling over football would buy him no probs

Both know where the net is and not afraid to have a dig at it, very rarely hooked also and strong stick work

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 04:49:31 PM
Breaking news Garth brooks concerts all cancelled so the five in a row curse in a gaa environment strikes again
Cal LG pull this off or are they cursed before they start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 08, 2014, 05:37:24 PM
Bunch of has beens that needs space and no1 wants us around the place,  best of luck to all in the championship!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 08, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 08, 2014, 05:37:24 PM
Bunch of has beens that needs space and no1 wants us around the place,  best of luck to all in the championship!!!

Also said they where good hurlers at club level
LG still the team to beat no question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 08, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
If every club respected the game to the same level as the bodies, we wouldn't be far away at IC level IMO. Sorry if that truth doesn't feed the fire SG  ;D

Reality is that having poor representation at intercounty level should aid any well journeyed team preparing for championship. Big effort for any team to knock them off their perch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 09, 2014, 08:00:32 PM
Sure have we not established that ballycastle, cushendall and St galls are the favourites? If I were a betting man I know where my money would be going.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 09, 2014, 08:00:32 PM
Sure have we not established that ballycastle, cushendall and St galls are the favourites? If I were a betting man I know where my money would be going.  ;)

Each way we are a god bet lol. Clooney Gaels and Sarsfields and Cloughmills will all fancy themselves for an each way bet

Anyways should be some championship, hopefully get one of the big games to referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 09, 2014, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 09, 2014, 08:00:32 PM
Sure have we not established that ballycastle, cushendall and St galls are the favourites? If I were a betting man I know where my money would be going.  ;)

Each way we are a god bet lol. Clooney Gaels and Sarsfields and Cloughmills will all fancy themselves for an each way bet

Anyways should be some championship, hopefully get one of the big games to referee
cloughmills are not to be taken lightly on their side of the draw. They've proven themselves a good championship team in the last 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
Skin of the teeth stuff today. Good to see eddie mccloskey coming on.

1 point win- point seemed to be in injury time...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 13, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 13, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
Skin of the teeth stuff today. Good to see eddie mccloskey coming on.

1 point win- point seemed to be in injury time...
it was Dan that came on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Ah. Said on twitter eddie came on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 13, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 13, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Ah. Said on twitter eddie came on.
eddie isn't in the squad. Dan is with the u21s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 14, 2014, 02:27:50 PM
Terrible news about boyler Hardstation.
Best wishes to all at Rossa.
RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 09:26:47 PM
Cuchullains-Dunloy 2-17 1-13 Naomh Gall

Sympathies to the O'Boyle family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 09:26:47 PM
Cuchullains-Dunloy 2-17 1-13 Naomh Gall

Sympathies to the O'Boyle family.

Was away at a triathlon today so never seen the game, decent match Skull? Oh by the my is McGuckin doing triathlons? Thought I was talking to a guy who look just like him today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on July 20, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 09:26:47 PM
Cuchullains-Dunloy 2-17 1-13 Naomh Gall

Sympathies to the O'Boyle family.

Was away at a triathlon today so never seen the game, decent match Skull? Oh by the my is McGuckin doing triathlons? Thought I was talking to a guy who look just like him today


Yeah think I seen him lane 6 with orange hat in first heat, although much more recognisable without swimming cap on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on July 20, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 09:26:47 PM
Cuchullains-Dunloy 2-17 1-13 Naomh Gall

Sympathies to the O'Boyle family.

Was away at a triathlon today so never seen the game, decent match Skull? Oh by the my is McGuckin doing triathlons? Thought I was talking to a guy who look just like him today


Yeah think I seen him lane 6 with orange hat in first heat, although much more recognisable without swimming cap on.

Aye, was chatting to him. Right few Gaa men doing these now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Poor game. Both teams were missing players...I didn't include your baldy napper on the AWOL list  :)

Yeah think Cookie might be dabling in tri's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 20, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Poor game. Both teams were missing players...I didn't include your baldy napper on the AWOL list  :)

Yeah think Cookie might be dabling in tri's

Saving myself for championship ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on July 21, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Any thoughts on Sky Sports coverage so far? 
Here's a link to an article written about 55 years ago by Kenneth "They think it's all over" Wolstenholme.

http://daltonr.wordpress.com/2007/02/08/52/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 02:01:29 PM
Have the new fixtures been arranged for the split in Div 1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Well not long to the business end of things starts, lets here opinions. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on July 21, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Any thoughts on Sky Sports coverage so far? 
Here's a link to an article written about 55 years ago by Kenneth "They think it's all over" Wolstenholme.

http://daltonr.wordpress.com/2007/02/08/52/

Rachel Wyse is a honey, outside of that it's nothing special.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Well not long to the business end of things starts, lets here opinions.

SHC loughgiel; hard to look passed them, been there done that, sometimes thats enough to get you through a tight game or 2.
IHC Rossa; Would argue prob shouldnt be playing at this level, can see them getting through ulster and getting close to an AI
JHC Glenarm; Decent side with some good hurlers and possibly the best hurler at this level in Hamill
B JHC Glenravel; Wouldn't know too much about this championship but seen Glenravel in it and was surprised so thought id back them here!

SFC St Galls; Still the best club team in the county by a mile and arguably the province, great to watch, nobody in Antrim will stop them.
IFC Portglenone; Seem a decent side, after their U-21 win last year and defeat in IFC can see this being a good year for them. St Enda's could be dark horses, a good bit of momentum in Div 3 can count for an awful lot.
JFC Antrim; Prob the hardest champ to call, any of 5 teams could take it Antrim, Eire Og, Ardoyne, Mals or Aggies. Always enjoy JFC teams seem to 'go for it more' Antrim seem to be building a good side and think they have enough for it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Only 4 teams at Championship level and one team shits in the nest every time they play Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I believe it to be the tightest championship in some time at senior level,   sure half the county has ourselves wrote of.  Which wont do us any harm.  St johns wont be easy beat,  if that goes to plan i can see a very young and well driven dall team go a lot closer than last year,  still think we would beat them coming down to the nitty gritty.  I fancy the town to beat dunloy by a few, and then ballycastle to cause us all types of trouble with there unreal pace up front.  Remains to be seen if they can carry league form into championship,   can st galls get to a final and reproduce some of there form of few years back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Not getting at rossa, they are probably looking at it as a chance to drop down and get momentum just like johnnies a few years ago. Just because you aren't going to win SHC doesn't mean you shouldn't compete at that level. Can't seriously tell me rossa couldn't beat/ compete with the likes of st galls, cloughmills or St. John's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Only 4 teams at Championship level and one team shits in the nest every time they play Loughgiel
whos that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Not getting at rossa, they are probably looking at it as a chance to drop down and get momentum just like johnnies a few years ago. Just because you aren't going to win SHC doesn't mean you shouldn't compete at that level. Can't seriously tell me rossa couldn't beat/ compete with the likes of st galls, cloughmills or St. John's?
I keep hearing this and it was even mentioned when we discussed this issue in our club. What momentum? For me, the Johnnies returned to senior hurling at the same level as they left it.

The biggest reason why we are dropping to intermediate is because the vast majority of our senior hurling team have never won a senior championship match!

I can't remember off hand but didn't they get to an all Ireland final? Surely a big lift to the club etc good to still be competing at that time of year. My own personal feeling is a club like rossa should be playing SHC, looking at the clubs who are playing senior rossa would mix it with most of them. You are gambling with the luck of the draw though and hoping to pull one of the so called weaker sides.

Genuine question would. You rather be considered a senior club or win an IHC? Suppose that's the question committees ask themselves making these decisions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Not getting at rossa, they are probably looking at it as a chance to drop down and get momentum just like johnnies a few years ago. Just because you aren't going to win SHC doesn't mean you shouldn't compete at that level. Can't seriously tell me rossa couldn't beat/ compete with the likes of st galls, cloughmills or St. John's?
I keep hearing this and it was even mentioned when we discussed this issue in our club. What momentum? For me, the Johnnies returned to senior hurling at the same level as they left it.

The biggest reason why we are dropping to intermediate is because the vast majority of our senior hurling team have never won a senior championship match!

I can't remember off hand but didn't they get to an all Ireland final? Surely a big lift to the club etc good to still be competing at that time of year. My own personal feeling is a club like rossa should be playing SHC, looking at the clubs who are playing senior rossa would mix it with most of them. You are gambling with the luck of the draw though and hoping to pull one of the so called weaker sides.

Genuine question would. You rather be considered a senior club or win an IHC? Suppose that's the question committees ask themselves making these decisions
Or is there merit in playing one championship game or perhaps a handful. Who knows.

True, but does that the  filter down to the IH team you knock out 1st round who only get 1 game. As you say it's all about how ya look at it, not gonna criticise rossa, good luck to them and if they do win antrim il support them as far as they go in ulster or AI series
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:33:59 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 21, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Why should Rossa not be hurling at this level ? They would be nowhere near a senior championship.

Not getting at rossa, they are probably looking at it as a chance to drop down and get momentum just like johnnies a few years ago. Just because you aren't going to win SHC doesn't mean you shouldn't compete at that level. Can't seriously tell me rossa couldn't beat/ compete with the likes of st galls, cloughmills or St. John's?
I keep hearing this and it was even mentioned when we discussed this issue in our club. What momentum? For me, the Johnnies returned to senior hurling at the same level as they left it.

The biggest reason why we are dropping to intermediate is because the vast majority of our senior hurling team have never won a senior championship match!

I can't remember off hand but didn't they get to an all Ireland final? Surely a big lift to the club etc good to still be competing at that time of year. My own personal feeling is a club like rossa should be playing SHC, looking at the clubs who are playing senior rossa would mix it with most of them. You are gambling with the luck of the draw though and hoping to pull one of the so called weaker sides.

Genuine question would. You rather be considered a senior club or win an IHC? Suppose that's the question committees ask themselves making these decisions
Or is there merit in playing one championship game or perhaps a handful. Who knows.

True, but does that the  filter down to the IH team you knock out 1st round who only get 1 game. As you say it's all about how ya look at it, not gonna criticise rossa, good luck to them and if they do win antrim il support them as far as they go in ulster or AI series
Without sounding selfish, you're hardly gonna give a fiddlers about some other club.

Of course you're not, always look out for no1 and all that. Personally I don't think it should be left up to clubs to decide themselves, turkey's aren't gonna vote for Christmas, but getting our co board to realise this would prob be difficult they like the philosophy if it's broke don't fix it! Prob another debate for another time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 21, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I believe it to be the tightest championship in some time at senior level,   sure half the county has ourselves wrote of.  Which wont do us any harm.

yeah right ...suits you sir  ;D

I think most would agree that the bunch is getting tighter at the top, but I don't know anyone that doesn't think that Loughgiel are still the team to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
The Johnnies were lucky to win Ulster at Casement and were put out in the semis of the All Ireland Intermediate.  Glenariffe at full strength will give Rossa all they want, but from what I've seen of Rossa this year they have the extra bit in them to take it to another level.

As for senior, Ballycastle have come up short against Loughgiel in the championship when I expected more. They have made good intentions this year in the league but leagues mean feck all. It's a serious draw with all the big ones and the Johnnies ;) clustered together lol. Loughgiel favourites to come out of that.

As for the other side of the draw, we are clear favourites but anything can happen, Cloughmills, Sarsfields and Clooney Gaels will also see themselves as good chances to get to a senior county final, we need to win two hard games (for our standard anyway) to get to the final, would be a grand year in the club if we could get to both finals, but that's just a side.

I'm looking forward to it, would love to be still playing. Will be a changed final for a start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 21, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I believe it to be the tightest championship in some time at senior level,   sure half the county has ourselves wrote of.  Which wont do us any harm.

yeah right ...suits you sir  ;D

I think most would agree that the bunch is getting tighter at the top, but I don't know anyone that doesn't think that Loughgiel are still the team to beat.
corse it suits us.  Adds the extra bit of drive.   Sure you no yourself, a "finished" dunloy team schooled c,dall a few years back. Dick ran the show.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 21, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 21, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I believe it to be the tightest championship in some time at senior level,   sure half the county has ourselves wrote of.  Which wont do us any harm.

yeah right ...suits you sir  ;D

I think most would agree that the bunch is getting tighter at the top, but I don't know anyone that doesn't think that Loughgiel are still the team to beat.
corse it suits us.  Adds the extra bit of drive.   Sure you no yourself, a "finished" dunloy team schooled c,dall a few years back. Dick ran the show.

Exactly ...... who are these people who've written youse off this year? I haven't met them? Maybe, just maybe your'e trying to create a 'backs to the wall' narrative to rally the troops? Whatever suits, but I think we both know it's just not true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 21, 2014, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
The Johnnies were lucky to win Ulster at Casement and were put out in the semis of the All Ireland Intermediate.  Glenariffe at full strength will give Rossa all they want, but from what I've seen of Rossa this year they have the extra bit in them to take it to another level.

As for senior, Ballycastle have come up short against Loughgiel in the championship when I expected more. They have made good intentions this year in the league but leagues mean feck all. It's a serious draw with all the big ones and the Johnnies ;) clustered together lol. Loughgiel favourites to come out of that.

As for the other side of the draw, we are clear favourites but anything can happen, Cloughmills, Sarsfields and Clooney Gaels will also see themselves as good chances to get to a senior county final, we need to win two hard games (for our standard anyway) to get to the final, would be a grand year in the club if we could get to both finals, but that's just a side.

I'm looking forward to it, would love to be still playing. Will be a changed final for a start.

Right enough, I think it was yourselves got to the final actually, my bad! Lol. Personally I'd like to see league status dictate championship, prob harder to implement in hurling due to the number of down teams playing in our leagues, def think it should happen sooner rather than later in football tho so we don't have this 'why are they playing in that champ' debate every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
Am sure dunloy thrived on the "finished" label
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2014, 05:36:30 PM
No one is writing you off - maybe you tell yourselves that to create a siege mentality but it's not true!!

Sure that Loughgiel team from the last few years isn't that old and you have some new guys coming through.

Who've you lost for people to be writing you off??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 21, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Well not long to the business end of things starts, lets here opinions.

LG  are favourites. They looked a bit jittery this time last year but come the championship they where miles ahead. Like Germany in the World Cup they really play well as a unit. Only team with a system and have the ability to execute it

There support play and cross field accurate passing, creating space is easy on the eye and very effective. Only thing to hinder them is pure mental exhaustion winter training  four times in a row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 21, 2014, 08:05:17 PM
Ok, so loughgiel favourites.   Whos closest to stopping history,  what have they got to do apart from the obvious which is score more.  Hows the games gonna unfold people? Is cdall first game the winners of ourselves and the johnnies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 22, 2014, 08:52:41 AM
loughgiel are still the team to beat IMO, ive seen nothing to suggest otherwise this year. yes there might be a slight slide in dominance this year but thats to be expected with a team getting that bit older. its happened to ourselves and its only natural.
cushendall were the team to take their place at the top but last years final was a shocker for me. they beat us in the semi and we shot shocking wides that day, i kinda thought it would be a tight game but didnt see that one sided affair coming. not sure about them this year if they can knock lgiel off the top spot.
ballycastle are also a shoulder shugger. loads of talent but never deliver when its really needed. county players all through the team and once of the best defenders around in neil mc auley.
st johns are a mess now, could of done something and had the promise to do so but internal stuff has cost them maybe this year.
ourselves? honestly we are not in with a shout. what ive seen of us this season we are great one day and terrible the next. will take a good year of playing the way dick wants to get them sorted.

overall it will be loughgiel to win it again unless cushendall grow a set and beat them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 10:21:44 AM
Loughgiel are deserved favourites - I don't see anyone other than loughgiel men claiming any different! It would be a shock if they don't win it - but shocks are what happen in championship! Altho given the current internals there's no chance of that shock coming from corrigan!

I think sometimes we under estimate how great a county championship we have.

After this years draw I would not be surprised if there was a move to seed the draw - this is not something I would necesssarily disagree with. Not in terms of the championship but because it would make league positions more meaningful.

On the same subject - this does already have an influence on championship grade. Maybe Galls & definitely The paddies might have looked at intermediate championship this year - but they are dictated into senior by being in division 1. (Clooney & cloughmills recent winners of intermediate so playing senior).
It's is this that opens up the possibility of Rossa & glenarrife playing intermediate - the fact they are in division 2. It's always a shock when a formerly big club drop down a level.
I'm not winding up HS but rossa's results over the past number of years would indicate intermediate is logical. Their current teamsheet bares little resemblance to the players who made them competitive. In cork na piarsaigh face possible drop to intermediate - and this has happened "big" teams in ither counties - so why would it be any different here?

Great to finally see the prospect of some sustained and competitive club hurling. We can also judge the division1 split over time. For me the big question is towards ballycastle and if they are going to step up or continue to promise in league but fail to deliver in championship. Will an up/down Dunloy time their season for championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 10:38:59 AM
Open draw ya wally, this is the first time that the draw has dropped like this, Loughiel, and they won't lie have been in the easier side of the draw for past few seasons, there are not easy sides of draws for the teams that are in the championship. Any team in 'our' side of the draw will think they have a chance of getting to the final. Any team in the other draw will like to fancy their chances of getting to the final. Meaning each game this year will be a tight affair with a few points either way. No team will be able to take it easy in any of their games.

Will this mean an easier final for the winners of the big group? Maybe, but no more easier than last years final I'd imagine ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 22, 2014, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 10:21:44 AM
Loughgiel are deserved favourites - I don't see anyone other than loughgiel men claiming any different! It would be a shock if they don't win it - but shocks are what happen in championship! Altho given the current internals there's no chance of that shock coming from corrigan!

I think sometimes we under estimate how great a county championship we have.

After this years draw I would not be surprised if there was a move to seed the draw - this is not something I would necesssarily disagree with. Not in terms of the championship but because it would make league positions more meaningful.

On the same subject - this does already have an influence on championship grade. Maybe Galls & definitely The paddies might have looked at intermediate championship this year - but they are dictated into senior by being in division 1. (Clooney & cloughmills recent winners of intermediate so playing senior).
It's is this that opens up the possibility of Rossa & glenarrife playing intermediate - the fact they are in division 2. It's always a shock when a formerly big club drop down a level.
I'm not winding up HS but rossa's results over the past number of years would indicate intermediate is logical. Their current teamsheet bares little resemblance to the players who made them competitive. In cork na piarsaigh face possible drop to intermediate - and this has happened "big" teams in ither counties - so why would it be any different here?

Great to finally see the prospect of some sustained and competitive club hurling. We can also judge the division1 split over time. For me the big question is towards ballycastle and if they are going to step up or continue to promise in league but fail to deliver in championship. Will an up/down Dunloy time their season for championship?

To be honest i think the best way to sort out who plays what championship is by league, the only spanner in the works are the down teams but i would say we could work around that handy enough.

Div 1 senior, Div 2 intermediate, Div 3 Junior and Div 4 Junior B. 2 up and 2 down from each every year, the league winners and championship winner, if this is the same team then 2nd in the league play championship runners up for the next place. if a team who wins championship is in the bottom 2 then the next team goes down. make things alot more interesting. Personally would do the same in football. Would take away the clubs option of picking what they want to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

That draw won't happen again if they run it a hundred times. It just fell that way, generally you will get one big team in both sides of the draw, it won't be a problem (for the big teams) next year. No panic yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2014, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

If these pesky Belfast clubs would stop worrying about the NA teams and get up to the required standard (minus the chip on the shoulder) then there would be no need for even discussing seeding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 22, 2014, 11:11:01 AM
I thought championship was already sorted like that anyway except you can "play up" if you like, which is fair enough.

Yes that more or less correct.
But also then teams which won intermediate in the preceding year - so play senior. (Cloughmills)

Some teams will also opt for senior because there is a period of time in which they cannot re-enter ulster intermediate if they won it before? (Clooney?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 22, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

Was more arguing the fact that it isnt based on league at the min, there are clubs playing senior who are in div 2 (which Rossa are top of) as i said, i wasnt getting at rossa just thought they should play senior. As it is at the min senior is basically div 1 & top div 2 sides, intermediate is rest of div 2 and top div 3 sides with junior the rest of div 3.

Rossa play St Enda's in 1st round of IHC team top of div 2 against a mid table div 3 team, can you tell me these 2 teams are more evenly matched than Rossa and Johnnies/ Galls/ Sars/ Clooney/ C'Mills?

As i say, i've no gripe with Rossa doing it, quite within their right to do so, I just think there has to be a better way to structure our championships.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2014, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

If these pesky Belfast clubs would stop worrying about the NA teams and get up to the required standard (minus the chip on the shoulder) then there would be no need for even discussing seeding.

Leave us chip eaters alone ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Loughgiel had the easier side of the draw mr2?  I'm nearly sure we beat Dunloy and cushendall in the same year in two of our current championship runs.  Hardly easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 22, 2014, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 22, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

Was more arguing the fact that it isnt based on league at the min, there are clubs playing senior who are in div 2 (which Rossa are top of) as i said, i wasnt getting at rossa just thought they should play senior. As it is at the min senior is basically div 1 & top div 2 sides, intermediate is rest of div 2 and top div 3 sides with junior the rest of div 3.

Rossa play St Enda's in 1st round of IHC team top of div 2 against a mid table div 3 team, can you tell me these 2 teams are more evenly matched than Rossa and Johnnies/ Galls/ Sars/ Clooney/ C'Mills?

As i say, i've no gripe with Rossa doing it, quite within their right to do so, I just think there has to be a better way to structure our championships.

To be honest, as I understand it, the present structure is as good as we are going to get.

As I understand it, Division 1 teams have to play senior while Division 2 teams have to play at least intermediate i.e. intermediate or senior.

As such, a Division 2 team like Ahoghill or Cloughmills can choose to play up (and why shouldn't they, having won the intermediate recently) while Rossa can choose to play intermediate based on their divisional status.

As regards an open draw versus seeding, the way the thing has panned out this year, a "lesser" team will get to a County final, which can only be a boost for players/supporters of those clubs rather than drawing Loughgiel in the first round and getting a hiding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Loughgiel had the easier side of the draw mr2?  I'm nearly sure we beat Dunloy and cushendall in the same year in two of our current championship runs.  Hardly easy.

When was the last time you met either Cushendall or Dunloy in the first round?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Loughgiel had the easier side of the draw mr2?  I'm nearly sure we beat Dunloy and cushendall in the same year in two of our current championship runs.  Hardly easy.

When was the last time you met either Cushendall or Dunloy in the first round?
we still had to beat them whenever we played them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Loughgiel had the easier side of the draw mr2?  I'm nearly sure we beat Dunloy and cushendall in the same year in two of our current championship runs.  Hardly easy.

When was the last time you met either Cushendall or Dunloy in the first round?
we still had to beat them whenever we played them.

So ya can't answer? That's why I said it ffs!! Still getting easier games this year lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2014, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Loughgiel had the easier side of the draw mr2?  I'm nearly sure we beat Dunloy and cushendall in the same year in two of our current championship runs.  Hardly easy.

When was the last time you met either Cushendall or Dunloy in the first round?
we still had to beat them whenever we played them.

So ya can't answer? That's why I said it ffs!! Still getting easier games this year lol
sure we fixed it. Everybody knows that.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 23, 2014, 12:06:52 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 22, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
MR2 - I understand why people favour the open draw but what these pesky Belfast teams argue doesn't matter. If the big NA teams want seeding then it will happen.

The mac - you started by arguing Rossa should not be in intermediate and finish by saying that division 2 should form intermediate championship!

Was more arguing the fact that it isnt based on league at the min, there are clubs playing senior who are in div 2 (which Rossa are top of) as i said, i wasnt getting at rossa just thought they should play senior. As it is at the min senior is basically div 1 & top div 2 sides, intermediate is rest of div 2 and top div 3 sides with junior the rest of div 3.

Rossa play St Enda's in 1st round of IHC team top of div 2 against a mid table div 3 team, can you tell me these 2 teams are more evenly matched than Rossa and Johnnies/ Galls/ Sars/ Clooney/ C'Mills?

As i say, i've no gripe with Rossa doing it, quite within their right to do so, I just think there has to be a better way to structure our championships.

Those "mis-matches" can be see in every championship - that's how shocks happen.
Yes I think it's up to Rossa.
I would rather see them in senior as a Belfast man but I assume they have thought this through.
Either way it's perfectly acceptable and understandable purely on results.

I think a loughgiel defeating st galls final in the senior is the predictable outcome - if otherwise from which side will the shock come? Or both!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
St galls beating ballycastle?? :o   that would be some tale
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 23, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
I see the leagues are now split, but is everyone back to zero points or do they hold onto their current tally?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
St galls beating ballycastle?? :o   that would be some tale

Would rather get Loughgiel or Dunloy in fairness, Ballycastle always stuff us :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 23, 2014, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
St galls beating ballycastle?? :o   that would be some tale

Would rather get Loughgiel or Dunloy in fairness, Ballycastle always stuff us :-[

I am sure clooney sarsfields & cloughmills will be delighted with your confidence MR2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 23, 2014, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
St galls beating ballycastle?? :o   that would be some tale

Would rather get Loughgiel or Dunloy in fairness, Ballycastle always stuff us :-[

I am sure clooney sarsfields & cloughmills will be delighted with your confidence MR2!

If's but and maybes, all guesses at this stage, nothing won here on this board that's for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
dont like this league split at all. we have one away game and 3 at home so it benifits us to a certain extent but i dont see the sense in it at all. what was it supposed to achieve?

lets be honest who actually cares who wins the league and with the championship arround the corner would it not be more benifical for all the teams to get tougher games against the top teams like cdall and lgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 25, 2014, 08:38:58 AM
dont like this league split at all. we have one away game and 3 at home so it benifits us to a certain extent but i dont see the sense in it at all. what was it supposed to achieve?

lets be honest who actually cares who wins the league and with the championship arround the corner would it not be more benifical for all the teams to get tougher games against the top teams like cdall and lgiel?

I think it was supposed to give developing teams a crack at the better teams earlier in the year, but then have plenty of competitive games with similar standard teams later, which I think it has achieved.

The better teams get to play each other twice in the year and not bother too much with the needless one sided games around championship time. You'll also get your big home gates against the neighbours which would have been an issue for some if the league had of been one way.

As for some not caring about the league, well some teams started to refuse to play without their full compliment, others wanted the split cut off date extended, so it must have mattered to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2014, 11:45:44 PM
Odds for the championship

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-hurling/antrim-senior-hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Whats the odds, cant get the link to open
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 25, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Whats the odds, cant get the link to open

Worked ok for me







Loughgiel Shamrocks 4/5 Cushendall 4/1  Dunloy 4/1  Ballycastle 9/1  St Galls 9/1  Sarsfields 22/1  Clooney Gaels 22/1  Cloughmills 28/1  St Johns 66/1 
 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
St galls 9/1. Does each way betting work in hurling?  reach the final.
not a man to gamble but if so. free money
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
St galls 9/1. Does each way betting work in hurling?  reach the final.
not a man to gamble but if so. free money

It's not giving it, maybe another bookie, must look
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 26, 2014, 01:15:34 PM
No the prices are "win only", PP aren't so slow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2014, 01:38:11 PM
For the dunloy men gave  them a shocking cleaning out a few years back.
Id say he learned his lesson the hard way  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 26, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
Think I saw that Watson was playing v O'Loughlin Gaels for LG? Thought he was in America for the summer? Not sure if I missed it on here. Not work out or back already?

Both LG and Ballycastle beat them I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 26, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
Think I saw that Watson was playing v O'Loughlin Gaels for LG? Thought he was in America for the summer? Not sure if I missed it on here. Not work out or back already?

Both LG and Ballycastle beat them I think.
He was in the states for a month. He played a couple of games, MOTM in both apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on July 27, 2014, 05:04:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: Glensman on July 26, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
Think I saw that Watson was playing v O'Loughlin Gaels for LG? Thought he was in America for the summer? Not sure if I missed it on here. Not work out or back already?

Both LG and Ballycastle beat them I think.
He was in the states for a month. He played a couple of games, MOTM in both apparently.

Fair play - good for youse to have him back. Just thought he was away until late summer. Can he play league at minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 02:27:01 PM
The u21s doing rightly against Galway. 7-4 down close to half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 03:19:45 PM
Big difference in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on July 27, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
Minor's not u21's

finished 2-20 to 0-9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 03:51:40 PM
Quote from: glens73 on July 27, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
Minor's not u21's
good lad. Mea culpa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 27, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
Just left Thurles.
A damp f**king squib all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 27, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
Just left Thurles.
A damp f**king squib all round.

Poor show, I suppose it can't be brilliant every week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 27, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
I think cork against tipp is a real 50/50 game and Kilkenny will not get it easy against limerick either if limerick believe in themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
all due respect to Davy he said that Wexford deserved to win that match. No excuses from the Clare men. Wexford looked knackered today.   I fancy a cork and Kilkenny final. Like the seventies and eighties. I Loved watching them matches growing up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
all due respect to Davy he said that Wexford deserved to win that match. No excuses from the Clare men. Wexford looked knackered today.   I fancy a cork and Kilkenny final. Like the seventies and eighties. I Loved watching them matches growing up.

spot on SIE all those matches on the trot caught up on wexford today. Their wides tally during their run was always going to sink them to

Tipp Kilkenny final would be really spicy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
all due respect to Davy he said that Wexford deserved to win that match. No excuses from the Clare men. Wexford looked knackered today.   I fancy a cork and Kilkenny final. Like the seventies and eighties. I Loved watching them matches growing up.

spot on SIE all those matches on the trot caught up on wexford today. Their wides tally during their run was always going to sink them to

Tipp Kilkenny final would be really spicy
lessons to be learned up here in respect to excuses. Every team starts out the same. Antrims excuses have been not enough games and then too many games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
all due respect to Davy he said that Wexford deserved to win that match. No excuses from the Clare men. Wexford looked knackered today.   I fancy a cork and Kilkenny final. Like the seventies and eighties. I Loved watching them matches growing up.

spot on SIE all those matches on the trot caught up on wexford today. Their wides tally during their run was always going to sink them to

Tipp Kilkenny final would be really spicy
lessons to be learned up here in respect to excuses. Every team starts out the same. Antrims excuses have been not enough games and them too many games.

I thought we were discussing today's games. It's hard how you can really link the two just to do some Antrim bashing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 27, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 27, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
Aye, you could see Davy Fitz secretly seething that the same Wexford team put them out
all due respect to Davy he said that Wexford deserved to win that match. No excuses from the Clare men. Wexford looked knackered today.   I fancy a cork and Kilkenny final. Like the seventies and eighties. I Loved watching them matches growing up.

spot on SIE all those matches on the trot caught up on wexford today. Their wides tally during their run was always going to sink them to

Tipp Kilkenny final would be really spicy
lessons to be learned up here in respect to excuses. Every team starts out the same. Antrims excuses have been not enough games and them too many games.

I thought we were discussing today's games. It's hard how you can really link the two just to do some Antrim bashing
unreal.it is the Antrim hurling thread.  stop being so defensive nah. It isn't just your county. Take a look at Ryan's excuses over the past 18 months. Maybe we should should just give Antrim a straight passage through to the leinster final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
Loughgiel undoubtedly favourites going into the championship.Cushendall have no NcNaughton and McManus is out with a back injury since last month.Dunloy are a championship team and will give Loughgiel as much as they want but wont have the hurling.As for ourselves after watching that rubbish in Corrigan on Sunday evening we may aswell join Rossa in intermediate to win a handy championship title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 30, 2014, 08:46:40 AM
theres seems to be a general unhappyness with most supporters with their team at some stage this year. no one team has really stood out as being on top form coming into the championship other than Ballycran in Div 1.
our side of the draw is still pretty open as to who will come out on top in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
MR2 happy enough id say ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2014, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 30, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
MR2 happy enough id say ;D

like a pig in........ :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
What chance are we giving our U21 team against Clare?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 30, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
What chance are we giving our U21 team against Clare?

I would think zero
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 30, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
What chance are we giving our U21 team against Clare?

I would think zero

Minus zero!!! Seriously 30 point hiding if they want, hopefully we put in a good 30 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2014, 10:19:59 PM
Antrim have to set and accept achievable goals to keep them motivated in this game. What you'd be after is a team who goes at it 100% for the full 60. Go at them and try to put Clare on the back foot as much as they can. Clare are going to win this with 20+ to spare, but the real pastings come when you give up after 15 minutes and make it a cake walk. Keep playing every ball with the right intensity and see if we can learn from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 31, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
What chance are we giving our U21 team against Clare?

god not much, that clare team would beat most senior county teams. the talent in it is unreal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 31, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 31, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on July 30, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
What chance are we giving our U21 team against Clare?

god not much, that clare team would beat most senior county teams. the talent in it is unreal.

Yeah, they put that Cork team to the sword pretty early on last night even if Cork did manage to take the bad look off it a bit mid way through the second half, but the result was never in doubt after about 15 minutes.
Clares distribution of the ball is very good, very few 50/50 balls pumped out of their defence, but their stick work and stick passing, support play etc, is well drilled into them at this stage and with a smattering of AI senior winners in their ranks its hard to look past them winning their third AI on the bounce.

Antrim have absolutely nothing to lose, no one is expecting anything from them so in a sense they've nothing to lose, but no doubt the players will be apprehensive about being on the receiving end of a big tanking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on July 31, 2014, 11:06:37 PM
Getting to the business end of the season now. What do you think of this weekends championship games? My predictions below.

Randalstown V Lamh Dhearg - Randalstown by 4
Cushendun V St Paul's - St Paul's by 3
Carey V Creggan - Carey by 5
Loughgiel V St Johns - Loughgiel by 9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Goal fest in Dunloy. Currently shamrocks up 7-8 to 2-6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
7-12 to 2-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
Full time. 7-13 to 2-6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
Full time. 7-13 to 2-6.

I left after 10 minutes, the teams left won't learn anything from that match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
I wasn't at the game but I'm hearing the Johnnies were the better team for the majority of the game.

No smileys??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 11:24:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

Thanks  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2014, 08:46:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
I wasn't at the game but I'm hearing the Johnnies were the better team for the majority of the game.

Having watched the game last night walked away in a state of confusion. If that was seriously the best way St Johns could, prepare themselves for senior championship maybe it is time they looked at alternatives.

Tactically woeful, players not able to get to the pace physically or technically and a real lack of effort throughout the team for the game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

sorry it rained in Dunloy for 2 solid days  :o

i think a bit more respect should be given to the people in our club who stood in the rain for 2 days spiking and sweeping water away to ensure that both games got played. our main pitch was closed from Monday onwards after checking the weather forcast so as it would be in a condition to hold the games if it rained. it meant all the grades in the club trained on one pitch, 3 at a time at one stage.

anyway no pitch would of been playable after 2 days of heavy rain. it wasnt to blame for creggan not being able to score or the johnies from conceeding goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 04, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2014, 08:46:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
I wasn't at the game but I'm hearing the Johnnies were the better team for the majority of the game.

Having watched the game last night walked away in a state of confusion. If that was seriously the best way St Johns could, prepare themselves for senior championship maybe it is time they looked at alternatives.

Tactically woeful, players not able to get to the pace physically or technically and a real lack of effort throughout the team for the game.


I don't think their preparation could have been that great when their management team walked away from them a couple of weeks back.

Also, begs the question, did Ballycastle send their buckin camogs to Corrigan last week? :o

HS agreed.

However is this not an annual occurrence with this particular manager/ coach walking away after causing a storm. I think they need to take a serious look at themselves and where they are going, all this underage success and it is getting them no where.

Are they taking the under age too seriously and burning their talented players out before they even get the length of senior level?

Players also have to take some personal responsibility, booking holidays etc at this time of the year knowing you are going to be playing championship - it just wouldn't happen at any of the other top teams wanting to win a championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2014, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

sorry it rained in Dunloy for 2 solid days  :o

i think a bit more respect should be given to the people in our club who stood in the rain for 2 days spiking and sweeping water away to ensure that both games got played. our main pitch was closed from Monday onwards after checking the weather forcast so as it would be in a condition to hold the games if it rained. it meant all the grades in the club trained on one pitch, 3 at a time at one stage.

anyway no pitch would of been playable after 2 days of heavy rain. it wasnt to blame for creggan not being able to score or the johnies from conceeding goals.

Considering the weather DR the pitches were great, fair play to the team of lads who worked hard to have the main pitch ready. As for the Johnnies, they would not have been close to Loughgiel anyways such is the standard at the top, Loughgiel have dispatched teams similar to that score line before so it wasn't really a shock. The Johnnies do have talented hurlers it's getting them to work as a team and commit that seems to be the problem, internal struggles happen in most clubs but should not involve the teams prep for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2014, 12:29:45 PM
Twas pretty cringeworthy stuff from the Johnnies.

Easy to see that Loughgiel look ready and able to defend their title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2014, 12:36:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2014, 12:29:45 PM
Twas pretty cringeworthy stuff from the Johnnies.

Easy to see that Loughgiel look ready and able to defend their title.

Yeah I wasnt in anyway taking away from the LG which was slick and they look to have a bit of zip back that had been missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 05, 2014, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2014, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

sorry it rained in Dunloy for 2 solid days  :o

i think a bit more respect should be given to the people in our club who stood in the rain for 2 days spiking and sweeping water away to ensure that both games got played. our main pitch was closed from Monday onwards after checking the weather forcast so as it would be in a condition to hold the games if it rained. it meant all the grades in the club trained on one pitch, 3 at a time at one stage.

anyway no pitch would of been playable after 2 days of heavy rain. it wasnt to blame for creggan not being able to score or the johnies from conceeding goals.

Considering the weather DR the pitches were great, fair play to the team of lads who worked hard to have the main pitch ready. As for the Johnnies, they would not have been close to Loughgiel anyways such is the standard at the top, Loughgiel have dispatched teams similar to that score line before so it wasn't really a shock. The Johnnies do have talented hurlers it's getting them to work as a team and commit that seems to be the problem, internal struggles happen in most clubs but should not involve the teams prep for championship.

i  was at our league game up in St Johns this year and that side that beat us wasnt even present on sunday against Loughgiel. whatever internal stuff happened has clearly knocked the stuffing out of them. they beat us that day with good short passing, fast movement and pure work rate. None of that was event on sunday. their short fast puck outs were all gone as well.

its a pity becasue i thought the Johnies were playing a good brand of  hurling and had the potential to push on. they may still do that but on that performance on sunday it may take some time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 05, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 05, 2014, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2014, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

sorry it rained in Dunloy for 2 solid days  :o

i think a bit more respect should be given to the people in our club who stood in the rain for 2 days spiking and sweeping water away to ensure that both games got played. our main pitch was closed from Monday onwards after checking the weather forcast so as it would be in a condition to hold the games if it rained. it meant all the grades in the club trained on one pitch, 3 at a time at one stage.

anyway no pitch would of been playable after 2 days of heavy rain. it wasnt to blame for creggan not being able to score or the johnies from conceeding goals.

Considering the weather DR the pitches were great, fair play to the team of lads who worked hard to have the main pitch ready. As for the Johnnies, they would not have been close to Loughgiel anyways such is the standard at the top, Loughgiel have dispatched teams similar to that score line before so it wasn't really a shock. The Johnnies do have talented hurlers it's getting them to work as a team and commit that seems to be the problem, internal struggles happen in most clubs but should not involve the teams prep for championship.

i  was at our league game up in St Johns this year and that side that beat us wasnt even present on sunday against Loughgiel. whatever internal stuff happened has clearly knocked the stuffing out of them. they beat us that day with good short passing, fast movement and pure work rate. None of that was event on sunday. their short fast puck outs were all gone as well.

its a pity becasue i thought the Johnies were playing a good brand of  hurling and had the potential to push on. they may still do that but on that performance on sunday it may take some time

DR what was your take on Ballycastle then at the weekend? Not much being given away with the championship game coming up in a few weeks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 05, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 05, 2014, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2014, 09:23:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 03, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
Both pitches in Dunloy were not really playable, absolutely ruined the intermediate game by playing it on the bog of a training pitch. Shouldn't have to play a championship game on a sub standard pitch. Both games should have been moved after yesterday's rain and today's forecast of more rain, combined with the history of Dunloys pitch not being able to hold rain. Loughgiel didn't have to get out of 2nd gear to demolish the Johnnies. MR2 as a neutral, you had a mare in the first game, you gave Carey nothing at all.

sorry it rained in Dunloy for 2 solid days  :o

i think a bit more respect should be given to the people in our club who stood in the rain for 2 days spiking and sweeping water away to ensure that both games got played. our main pitch was closed from Monday onwards after checking the weather forcast so as it would be in a condition to hold the games if it rained. it meant all the grades in the club trained on one pitch, 3 at a time at one stage.

anyway no pitch would of been playable after 2 days of heavy rain. it wasnt to blame for creggan not being able to score or the johnies from conceeding goals.

Considering the weather DR the pitches were great, fair play to the team of lads who worked hard to have the main pitch ready. As for the Johnnies, they would not have been close to Loughgiel anyways such is the standard at the top, Loughgiel have dispatched teams similar to that score line before so it wasn't really a shock. The Johnnies do have talented hurlers it's getting them to work as a team and commit that seems to be the problem, internal struggles happen in most clubs but should not involve the teams prep for championship.

i  was at our league game up in St Johns this year and that side that beat us wasnt even present on sunday against Loughgiel. whatever internal stuff happened has clearly knocked the stuffing out of them. they beat us that day with good short passing, fast movement and pure work rate. None of that was event on sunday. their short fast puck outs were all gone as well.

its a pity becasue i thought the Johnies were playing a good brand of  hurling and had the potential to push on. they may still do that but on that performance on sunday it may take some time

DR what was your take on Ballycastle then at the weekend? Not much being given away with the championship game coming up in a few weeks?

Christ If the Johnnies beat them then they must be pish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 05, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Ballycastle played some decent stuff throughout the match, took alot of good long range scores in the second half. it was a game that could have went either way to be fair. o dont think both teams went all out plus the pitch was very soft underfoot so it played a part.

i personally think its a straigh 50/50 game that will be decided by who wants it more and a bit of luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 05, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
It's that time of the year again when I start to take a more serious interest in Antrim hurling. 

I have to say, I would be more than disappointed if my club had to contest a championship game in anyone's "second" pitch.

Pitch conditions - it doesn't matter if it rained for a week in Dunloy or for 2 hours - games shouldn't be contested if the pitches are unplayable.

I thought both pitches looked unplayable.

Creggan had their chances and will not doubt learn from this experience.  Carey were slightly disappointing on the day but I feel they will be knocking about at the business end.

Loughgiel without a doubt the team to beat, although I can't see them getting the same time and space as they progress.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 05, 2014, 04:19:00 PM
It's that time of the year again when I start to take a more serious interest in Antrim hurling. 

I have to say, I would be more than disappointed if my club had to contest a championship game in anyone's "second" pitch.

Pitch conditions - it doesn't matter if it rained for a week in Dunloy or for 2 hours - games shouldn't be contested if the pitches are unplayable.

I thought both pitches looked unplayable.

Creggan had their chances and will not doubt learn from this experience.  Carey were slightly disappointing on the day but I feel they will be knocking about at the business end.

Loughgiel without a doubt the team to beat, although I can't see them getting the same time and space as they progress.

What's the best option then? Play it on the Monday night when the weather was great? That's the problem we don't know when the weather is going to be decent to allow the pitches time to recover, a lot of people complaining about games being played late in the year and when its played in the height of summer we still can't get it right. Both pitches had spots that were not great and it's a shame that teams who train all year had to have their games played on pitches that weren't great but that's the way it goes.

I'm sure had the rain continued then they would have been called off.  As for Creggaan I was impressed with them (again) some great hurlers in that team and I expect them to certainly hold their own in the league above where they are at present. Rossa and Glenariffe I'd say would be the stronger teams in this championship.

Didn't stay for more than 15 mins of the Loughgiel game but in that time they had already knocked over 1-5 and didn't seem pushed, young Janty up from in a 2 man ff line was the only one with a bitta sprak, which left me wondering where was the extra man played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 05, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Not having a go at the refs or Dunloy as hosts.  The county wouldn't have entertained any suggestion of the games not going ahead.  Just very fortunate no one was seriously injured.  Four weeks between 1st round and quarter finals. Teams shouldn't feel they have to play in such conditions just because it's the easy option.

On another note, who is calling the shots now for Loughgiel SIE?

Appeared to have a few new faces on the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on August 05, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
I felt sorry for Creggan and Carey having to play on a small pitch that had already had a match that day and was a mess before it even started. While the matches probably had to be played the intermediate match could have been played somewhere else Armoy/Ballycastle/Loughgiel would all have been better options. Does that training pitch even meet the size requirements for a senior championship game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2014, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 05, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
I felt sorry for Creggan and Carey having to play on a small pitch that had already had a match that day and was a mess before it even started. While the matches probably had to be played the intermediate match could have been played somewhere else Armoy/Ballycastle/Loughgiel would all have been better options. Does that training pitch even meet the size requirements for a senior championship game?

I'd say it more than fits the requirements. It's just a bollox that it had 2 days of rain, I'd say that the pitch they played on was better than the main pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 05, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 05, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Not having a go at the refs or Dunloy as hosts.  The county wouldn't have entertained any suggestion of the games not going ahead.  Just very fortunate no one was seriously injured.  Four weeks between 1st round and quarter finals. Teams shouldn't feel they have to play in such conditions just because it's the easy option.

On another note, who is calling the shots now for Loughgiel SIE?

Appeared to have a few new faces on the line.

Does that comment stand up to scrutiny?  :-\

For the record ... I wouldn't ideally have liked to have played championship in that but if you want to compete in the All Ireland Club series it might stand you in good stead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 06, 2014, 08:56:34 PM
Dunloy 0-16
Loughgiel 1-10 FT
Dead atmosphere game, lgiel had a changed team from Sunday. No Liam Watson now he's injured and they missed some easy frees. Pitch was really wet again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on August 06, 2014, 10:19:20 PM
St. Johns 1.19 v St. Galls 1.12.  Johnnies were 5 down at half time 1.6 to 0.4, seemed like a hangover from Sunday!  But fair play to them they cut loose in the second half against a very poor and ill disciplined St. Galls and hit 1.15. If CJ would hurl as much as he slabbered it would benefit them greatly.  I wish I was 20 years younger, lining thon!! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 06, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 06, 2014, 08:56:34 PM
Dunloy 0-16
Loughgiel 1-10 FT
Dead atmosphere game, lgiel had a changed team from Sunday. No Liam Watson now he's injured and they missed some easy frees. Pitch was really wet again.

Only recognise a handful of first team players based on the team posted on the Lgiel website, was this really the starting 15?

How close to full strength were Dunloy?

Any reports on the Cushendall v Ballycastle game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2014, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: The Memory Man on August 06, 2014, 10:19:20 PM
St. Johns 1.19 v St. Galls 1.12.  Johnnies were 5 down at half time 1.6 to 0.4, seemed like a hangover from Sunday!  But fair play to them they cut loose in the second half against a very poor and ill disciplined St. Galls and hit 1.15. If CJ would hurl as much as he slabbered it would benefit them greatly.  I wish I was 20 years younger, lining thon!! :)

Bad result for us considering the Johnnies poor form, but fair play the Johnnies, they can now have a good season :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2014, 08:54:15 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 06, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 06, 2014, 08:56:34 PM
Dunloy 0-16
Loughgiel 1-10 FT
Dead atmosphere game, lgiel had a changed team from Sunday. No Liam Watson now he's injured and they missed some easy frees. Pitch was really wet again.

Only recognise a handful of first team players based on the team posted on the Lgiel website, was this really the starting 15?

How close to full strength were Dunloy?

Any reports on the Cushendall v Ballycastle game?

loughgiel were changed all over, no Eddie or Tony McCloskey, Ding, James Campbell etc on their starting team. we were more or less the same team but a load of positional changes all over the pitch. it was much the same as the ballycastle game with no team giving away a starting line up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 07, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
Against Cushendall we had a very much weakened team out, had a couple of injuries and the rest were rested for championship. Having said that Cushendall did look impressive enough in scoring 1-25  against us. Can't wait for championship quarter finals weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2014, 07:40:34 PM
When are the quarter finals??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 07, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2014, 07:40:34 PM
When are the quarter finals??
I think the weekend beginning 29th august. I'm not aware of any of the fixtures actually set in stone yet. Venues, times etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2014, 10:49:32 PM
Cheers. Was trying to find details on county web-site but said tbc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on August 07, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
Saturday 30th August 2014
6 00 PM    Cuchullains-Dunloy v Mac Uilin CLG - Loughgiel Shamrocks - Quarter-Final     

Sunday 31st August 2014
Senior Hurling Championship
1 00 PM    Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields - Dunloy - Quarter-Final     
2 30 PM    Ghaeil Chluanaidh - Naomh Gall - Dunloy - Quarter-Final     
6 00 PM    Ruairí Óg - Loughgiel Shamrocks - Ballycastle - Quarter-Final     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2014, 11:07:15 PM
Aha. Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 08, 2014, 11:26:22 AM
Are we permitted to discuss master watson's injury? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 08, 2014, 11:35:22 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 08, 2014, 11:26:22 AM
Are we permitted to discuss master watson's injury? ;)


No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: smitty1982 on August 08, 2014, 12:45:25 PM
As far as I know the Dunloy v Ballycastle game is in cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

All the more reason to make sure you're in the top half, although I don't get the resting players thing unless they are carrying a knock or something as a good run out is more worthwhile that training sessions..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?

Think everyone is worried about Loughgiel  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 08, 2014, 03:12:34 PM
Who's managing the bodies this year with PJ out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 08, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?

Think everyone is worried about Loughgiel  ;)

Worried is maybe the wrong word. Expecting or presuming would be closer
There overwhelming favourites. I'd say they worry more than the other clubs
They know if they don't perform on the day and the rivals do it could be tight
But I would be shocked if they don't pull off the 5 in a row
Great team that play to a system.
It's theirs to lose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 08, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
i honestly believe no team will get within 10 points of them.

Not the best team as such i have ever seen, but the best at playing to a system, which no-one at the minute can cope with.

The only team i think has a chance is Cushendall, but for various reasons, they wont IMHO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 08, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?

Think everyone is worried about Loughgiel  ;)

Worried is maybe the wrong word. Expecting or presuming would be closer
There overwhelming favourites. I'd say they worry more than the other clubs
They know if they don't perform on the day and the rivals do it could be tight
But I would be shocked if they don't pull off the 5 in a row
Great team that play to a system.
It's theirs to lose

Simple system that has not been beaten in a long while, why is that? Have managers not worked it out yet or is it down to better hurlers in Loughgiel? Any team at that standard (Dall,Dunloy, loughgiel, Castle) should all have the same fitness (if they don't then what chance have ya got) so it comes down to skill, tactics and sheer fecking will to win.

For me Loughgiel haven't reinvented the wheel, they use a simple system called team work, they work the ball to the best player in the best position, they look for the red top and play the ball, they have managed to get goals when needed also and having a maverick player isn't a bad thing, takes the attention away from the lads that hurl. Good mix and the trust the system, how do you stop it? work fecking harder than they do.

Why a player lets a man run by him looking a pass is beyond me, play that yard in front cover the space, make them play hurried lofty balls in to their forwards  instead of a free low ball into the corner. Easy to discuss how to beat a team, putting that into practice is totally different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 08, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 08, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?

Think everyone is worried about Loughgiel  ;)

Worried is maybe the wrong word. Expecting or presuming would be closer
There overwhelming favourites. I'd say they worry more than the other clubs
They know if they don't perform on the day and the rivals do it could be tight
But I would be shocked if they don't pull off the 5 in a row
Great team that play to a system.
It's theirs to lose

Simple system that has not been beaten in a long while, why is that? Have managers not worked it out yet or is it down to better hurlers in Loughgiel? Any team at that standard (Dall,Dunloy, loughgiel, Castle) should all have the same fitness (if they don't then what chance have ya got) so it comes down to skill, tactics and sheer fecking will to win.

For me Loughgiel haven't reinvented the wheel, they use a simple system called team work, they work the ball to the best player in the best position, they look for the red top and play the ball, they have managed to get goals when needed also and having a maverick player isn't a bad thing, takes the attention away from the lads that hurl. Good mix and the trust the system, how do you stop it? work fecking harder than they do.

Why a player lets a man run by him looking a pass is beyond me, play that yard in front cover the space, make them play hurried lofty balls in to their forwards  instead of a free low ball into the corner. Easy to discuss how to beat a team, putting that into practice is totally different

Can't disagree with that mr2
The word system does cover a wide spectrum
They have drilled the players well
Where do I need to be where does the next man after that have to be
Have the skill levels to execute any short or long pass balls at speed
To runners who have lost there men
They have puck out strategys and quick free plans as well
All the scenarios they might pop up during a match have been considered
I know LG men might not like this but Jim nelson has his fingerprints all over it
Attention to detail and no stone unturned
But the players are the one who deserve the credit, you don't hurl like that without putting in the hours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 08, 2014, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 08, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

All the more reason to make sure you're in the top half, although I don't get the resting players thing unless they are carrying a knock or something as a good run out is more worthwhile that training sessions..

Here in lies an important piece of info.......we are carrying a few knocks/niggling injuries.  I'm sure we're not the first club to look out for the welfare of our players....nor will we be the last  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 08, 2014, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 08, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
Castle camog, when over the last 3 years have we not been carrying injuries , thing is why rest the same players, and none of the other players gets rested . I personally would love to see our full team out against cdall and lgiel this Wednesday nite, how does managment expect team to click if they haven't started the last 3-4 games before we come up against a very good dunloy side which is going well at the minute.

Thought that wud prob be self explanatory? If someone is carrying a knock then they're carrying a knock.....they aren't 'resting'. If that knock/niggle develops into full blown injury that prevents them from featuring in cship then ud want the bcastle mgt team hung drawn & quartered. Like I said I'm sure we're not the only team looking after the welfare of our own players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CastleCamog on August 08, 2014, 05:16:13 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 08, 2014, 05:06:46 PM
So out of the subs we had the other nite how many of them were injured? Seems to be the same players getting rested the whole time.

We'll give up...you're not getting the hang of this 'rested' versus 'injured' thing lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 08, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
Cushendall don't have the firepower up front. Ballycastle do, but can they get the most out of it for Championship? If they could isolate their two whippets in full forward they would be a handful. Loughiel won't win the championship as easily as they did last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 09, 2014, 01:11:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 08, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
So it seems the split in the league has just allowed the ones in the top half to use it for training purposes for Championship, As Ballycastle have rested players against St Johns, Dunloy and now  Cushendall it seems. They should be well rested then for the Big game

MR2 what else did you expect, no one cares if they win the league or not. So August is about preparing for the championship, teams will go about that any way they see fit.

Yep I suppose, as a manager I would have preferred momentum going into Championship but cotton wool is ok also

It depends on your psychological approach; if you are protecting mentally fragile players from a defeat against a team who they face later in the year or whether you are just trying to lull the other team into a kind of false position of superiority.

Or you are giving your squad players the chance to go and fight for a place/ having the opposite effect if they happen to beat said opposition 'sure we beat them with half a team' or the flip side if they are defeated 'sure we had no team out'

Personally within reason should be playing to your strengths all the time because when the pressure comes on around championship time, those team work situations will occur more naturally.

creating a game plan will work better in league games than the training pitch, players knowing where to be, where to move the ball, timing runs all of that is better in a real game, also good for management to know if certain systems work or not and allows time to tweak it, can't do that when the ball is thrown in come Championship!!

Cushendall worried about Loughgiel or just concentrating on their own game?

Think everyone is worried about Loughgiel  ;)

Worried is maybe the wrong word. Expecting or presuming would be closer
There overwhelming favourites. I'd say they worry more than the other clubs
They know if they don't perform on the day and the rivals do it could be tight
But I would be shocked if they don't pull off the 5 in a row
Great team that play to a system.
It's theirs to lose

Simple system that has not been beaten in a long while, why is that? Have managers not worked it out yet or is it down to better hurlers in Loughgiel? Any team at that standard (Dall,Dunloy, loughgiel, Castle) should all have the same fitness (if they don't then what chance have ya got) so it comes down to skill, tactics and sheer fecking will to win.

For me Loughgiel haven't reinvented the wheel, they use a simple system called team work, they work the ball to the best player in the best position, they look for the red top and play the ball, they have managed to get goals when needed also and having a maverick player isn't a bad thing, takes the attention away from the lads that hurl. Good mix and the trust the system, how do you stop it? work fecking harder than they do.

Why a player lets a man run by him looking a pass is beyond me, play that yard in front cover the space, make them play hurried lofty balls in to their forwards  instead of a free low ball into the corner. Easy to discuss how to beat a team, putting that into practice is totally different

i have been reading this board for years - from Gaelic Football to Hurling to soccer to Golf etc etc
and i have found this paragraph to sum everything up
no genius invention (no offence to PJ)
if the coaching skills from young age are there - hard work will get you over the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Loughgiel match cancelled today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Loughgiel match cancelled today.

So was ours, but I thought the fixture had to be reversed if your pitch was unplayable, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 12, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Loughgiel match cancelled today.

So was ours, but I thought the fixture had to be reversed if your pitch was unplayable, no?

Death in Loughgiel Johnney, Chris O'Connell's mother died
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2014, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 12, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 10, 2014, 01:27:17 PM
Loughgiel match cancelled today.

So was ours, but I thought the fixture had to be reversed if your pitch was unplayable, no?

Death in Loughgiel Johnney, Chris O'Connell's mother died

Sorry to hear that, presumed the cancellation was due to the torrential rain experienced in some places..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on August 13, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Anyone at Loughgiel/Ballycastle or Dunloy/Cushendall?

Money still all on Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves

So if we beat Sarsfields will we be safe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 13, 2014, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 13, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Anyone at Loughgiel/Ballycastle or Dunloy/Cushendall?

Money still all on Loughgiel?

The dall by 5 points here in dunloy

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on August 13, 2014, 11:36:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 13, 2014, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 13, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Anyone at Loughgiel/Ballycastle or Dunloy/Cushendall?

Money still all on Loughgiel?

The dall by 5 points here in dunloy

Full teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 14, 2014, 12:08:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves

So if we beat Sarsfields will we be safe?

I think you will indeed be safe if you beat Sarsfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 14, 2014, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves

When johnnies got their goal I thought it was game over.
Wrong! Credit the paddies who should have won in the end.
Exciting if not always great quality hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 14, 2014, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves

So if we beat Sarsfields will we be safe?

I think that defeat means we are deep in the mire if its two up two down as I'm being told.

We've still to go to Corrigan, but we'd need a vast improvement from last nights insipid performance which was far removed from our last two home games against Portaferry and a storming second half against Ballycastle.

You'd a fairly ropey keeper who we really didn't test enough, his positional sense and footwork are pretty poor for a keeper, is he the normal man between the sticks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 14, 2014, 08:52:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: manballandall on August 13, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
We won by a goal and johnnies drew with paddies . Paddies will kick themselves

So if we beat Sarsfields will we be safe?

I think that defeat means we are deep in the mire if its two up two down as I'm being told.

We've still to go to Corrigan, but we'd need a vast improvement from last nights insipid performance which was far removed from our last two home games against Portaferry and a storming second half against Ballycastle.

You'd a fairly ropey keeper who we really didn't test enough, his positional sense and footwork are pretty poor for a keeper, is he the normal man between the sticks?

We haven't had a proper keeper for years, I'd say maybe 15 years since we had a long term keeper, we've generally had a keeper who's been a past player. Not the same.

We'd need to improve more before we play Clooney Gaels, they are racking up big scores in a competitive div 2. Can not get complacent now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2014, 10:18:47 AM
Note To st galls opposition in the championship...

go for goals!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 14, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
MR2 i was waiting on you playing down st galls as usual!

Anything short of a final appearance would be a huge disappointment regardless of who is in goals!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2014, 10:54:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 14, 2014, 10:18:47 AM
Note To st galls opposition in the championship...

go for goals!!

Clooney Gaels with PJ will always go for goals, but as you can see from our results we aren't shy of scoring goals also.

Quote from: btdtgtt on August 14, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
MR2 i was waiting on you playing down st galls as usual!

Anything short of a final appearance would be a huge disappointment regardless of who is in goals!



Can't play us down at all, we are Div 1 B and playing a team in Div 2, can't paint it any other way unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on August 15, 2014, 12:27:07 AM
I know the championship has already started with a few games but still time for predictions

Senior - Think Loughgiel will take it handy enough. Fancy Ahoghill to get to a final against them. Mental how this draw has turned out with all the big guns on one side. Great chance for Ahoghill, Cloghmills, Sarsfields or St Galls to reach a senior final. All four of those teams are a match for each other imo so should be a few good games on that side

Intermediate - Rossa's to lose although Glenariff in with a chance as well. Armoy could be the dark horses in this one, St Pauls also seem to be going along nicely. Carey always a good championship team

Junior - Would have said Glenarm at the start of the season but they seem to have completely collapsed as the season has went. Have got a couple of doings the last few weeks. It will probably be the winners of Rasharkin - St Theresas who win this one although Glenravel, O'Donnells and Glenarm in with a chance. Why did they split the Junior championship? Would it not have been handier just to play it as the one competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 15, 2014, 08:44:07 AM
SENIOR: Shamrocks at a canter - beating st galls in the decider.
INTER: Rossa - unless a championship performance from glenarrife turns them over.
JUNIOR: Would love to to see st Theresa's do something here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 15, 2014, 08:50:38 AM
Senior - Loughgiel. they are by far still the best team in the county and their passing game against St. Johns really impressed me the way they took them apart.

Intermediate - Rossa. they are going well in Div2 at the min and should have the players and know how to win it.

Junior - going to go for our neighbours Rasharkin to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Ballycastle are sitting back rubbing their hands at everyone saying that Loughiel will win it easily. Loughiel will beat Ballycastle by 2/3 points in semi final. St. Galls opening game is really tough, nothing will be easy on that side of the draw. Cushendall won't count. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2014, 01:11:53 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Ballycastle are sitting back rubbing their hands at everyone saying that Loughiel will win it easily. Loughiel will beat Ballycastle by 2/3 points in semi final. St. Galls opening game is really tough, nothing will be easy on that side of the draw. Cushendall won't count.

We won't get it easy and we have never beaten Clooney by more that a couple of points, and they have beaten us in the past, hard working team with a couple of great hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Sylvie, you can be sure that *LoughGiel are looking no further than the next opposition. As always, the preparation put into each championship game is the same no matter who the opposition is. And if it works out that we get past Cushendall and end up playing the town the same preparation will go into that game. its a dangerous thing looking too far ahead.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 01:37:19 PM
*than......SIE, they are very professional and you are totally right. Cushendall are very poor though, they will be no match. Look at last years final. Not enough has changed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 15, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Ballycastle are sitting back rubbing their hands at everyone saying that Loughiel will win it easily. Loughiel will beat Ballycastle by 2/3 points in semi final. St. Galls opening game is really tough, nothing will be easy on that side of the draw. Cushendall won't count.
they can rub there hands all they want. Because won't be this year they'll be playing them. Dunloy to beat them by 5/6 points. Loughgiel and dall to be a lot tighter than last year and a young well driven dall team for me  is still a year maybe two years early.  Loughgiel to play the neighbors in semi and to play MR2s men in the final. Here's hoping anyway  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2014, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 15, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Ballycastle are sitting back rubbing their hands at everyone saying that Loughiel will win it easily. Loughiel will beat Ballycastle by 2/3 points in semi final. St. Galls opening game is really tough, nothing will be easy on that side of the draw. Cushendall won't count.
they can rub there hands all they want. Because won't be this year they'll be playing them. Dunloy to beat them by 5/6 points. Loughgiel and dall to be a lot tighter than last year and a young well driven dall team for me  is still a year maybe two years early.  Loughgiel to play the neighbors in semi and to play MR2s men in the final. Here's hoping anyway  ;D

Here's hoping!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 15, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
I hope your wrong sleeping giant. I think we can beat Dunloy and give lgiel/cdall a close run in the semi final. We showed gainst lgiel the other nite that we r good enough to compete with them. We had a poor second half but both teams put in a good hard match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 15, 2014, 04:46:54 PM
Use showed well last year to. And it was double scores come championship.  I just think the town and the dall are to young at the moment. But two super talented young squads. I could well be wrong. It's happened before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
Would be great for the county to have four or five teams at the Shamrock's level. They have raised the bar over the past four years. Ballycastle are a long time without the big prize (almost 30 years). If they don't win it with this squad in the next 3/4 years it could be a lot longer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 15, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Id put money on town winning in next 3/4 years no problem. Like I said. Super talented. But I think they may need beat in a final before they get over the line. Again.  Here's hoping. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 15, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 15, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
Would be great for the county to have four or five teams at the Shamrock's level. They have raised the bar over the past four years. Ballycastle are a long time without the big prize (almost 30 years). If they don't win it with this squad in the next 3/4 years it could be a lot longer.

Maybe there's only 4/5 in the country!

I agree SG there is a volunteer cup in this ballycastle team but they might need to lose one to win one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 16, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Off til Monday.

Was indeed a good game, I had my hopes up for the win in the middle of the second half. Most of our team are still minor next year and will be hard to beat. Another good batch coming through. Hopefully we can bring them through to Senior success soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 16, 2014, 11:31:53 AM
 
Quote from: groundlie on August 16, 2014, 10:21:01 AM
I can't see for the life of me loughgeil or cushendall winning the championship this year they just don't have the fire in the belly like before.
::).   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 16, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Off til Monday.

Was indeed a good game, I had my hopes up for the win in the middle of the second half. Most of our team are still minor next year and will be hard to beat. Another good batch coming through. Hopefully we can bring them through to Senior success soon.

Would Cushendall not be better giving their own players a place on that minor team, regardless of how successful they are, as they are the fellas they are tryin to develop into senior hurlers?

I think there are five from Glenarm/Larne that start for them. Seems to be win at all costs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 16, 2014, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 16, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Off til Monday.

Was indeed a good game, I had my hopes up for the win in the middle of the second half. Most of our team are still minor next year and will be hard to beat. Another good batch coming through. Hopefully we can bring them through to Senior success soon.

Would Cushendall not be better giving their own players a place on that minor team, regardless of how successful they are, as they are the fellas they are tryin to develop into senior hurlers?

I think there are five from Glenarm/Larne that start for them. Seems to be win at all costs

Interesting.
Why are these affiliated to cushendall as opposed to an amalgamation?
What is the attitude in cushendall - leaving out their own players? Are the hoping to attract the other players?
Point not remotely anti-cushendall.
I am just curious as to how these things work and who they benefit.
For me it's ultimately about young lads hurling.
It's also an issue in Belfast perhaps even more so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 18, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 16, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Off til Monday.

Was indeed a good game, I had my hopes up for the win in the middle of the second half. Most of our team are still minor next year and will be hard to beat. Another good batch coming through. Hopefully we can bring them through to Senior success soon.

Would Cushendall not be better giving their own players a place on that minor team, regardless of how successful they are, as they are the fellas they are tryin to develop into senior hurlers?

I think there are five from Glenarm/Larne that start for them. Seems to be win at all costs

Could you explain further why you think this.

So do you think that Glenariffe & Cushendall should turn these kids who have no teams to play for away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2014, 11:05:20 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 18, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 16, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Watched Cushendall beat Ballycastle in the minor c'ship last night, Cushendall just a bit too strong in the end but Ballycastle led by 7 early in the second half and gave them a better game than I had expected.

Was the other semi between St Johns & Rossa played?
Off til Monday.

Was indeed a good game, I had my hopes up for the win in the middle of the second half. Most of our team are still minor next year and will be hard to beat. Another good batch coming through. Hopefully we can bring them through to Senior success soon.

Would Cushendall not be better giving their own players a place on that minor team, regardless of how successful they are, as they are the fellas they are tryin to develop into senior hurlers?

I think there are five from Glenarm/Larne that start for them. Seems to be win at all costs

Could you explain further why you think this.

So do you think that Glenariffe & Cushendall should turn these kids who have no teams to play for away?

If he was associated with a club and these players made themselves available he'd knock them back, he'd rather they played for Celtic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
So now the senior league has been wrapped up, what are the thoughts on the split?

Good, bad or pointless?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
So now the senior league has been wrapped up, what are the thoughts on the split?

Good, bad or pointless?

Pointless if you were in the top league, very competitive if you are in the lower league (1b) Will that help come Championship? I doubt it, I'm glad we've had to work hard in the lower league to keep things going, on top of that we've also been having challenge games.

Those in the top part of the league have used it as they see fit I suppose, rest players or try different formations it's the best way to iron out any problems.......... maybe.

As long as it is 2 down 2 up as it means teams get a shot at div 1. I'd say a lot of the games that people thought were going to be total mis matches ended up to be decent (albeit the better team usually won) outings. The teams we thought would be in the top half are there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
So now the senior league has been wrapped up, what are the thoughts on the split?

Good, bad or pointless?

Pointless if you were in the top league, very competitive if you are in the lower league (1b) Will that help come Championship? I doubt it, I'm glad we've had to work hard in the lower league to keep things going, on top of that we've also been having challenge games.

Those in the top part of the league have used it as they see fit I suppose, rest players or try different formations it's the best way to iron out any problems.......... maybe.

As long as it is 2 down 2 up as it means teams get a shot at div 1. I'd say a lot of the games that people thought were going to be total mis matches ended up to be decent (albeit the better team usually won) outings. The teams we thought would be in the top half are there

Yeah I would have thought that was the general consensus, need some way of creating some sort of incentive for the top half. Winning the league is clearly not a priority for any of the top 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
If St. Galls stay up that will be some achievement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 19, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
So now the senior league has been wrapped up, what are the thoughts on the split?

Good, bad or pointless?

Pointless if you were in the top league, very competitive if you are in the lower league (1b) Will that help come Championship? I doubt it, I'm glad we've had to work hard in the lower league to keep things going, on top of that we've also been having challenge games.

Those in the top part of the league have used it as they see fit I suppose, rest players or try different formations it's the best way to iron out any problems.......... maybe.

As long as it is 2 down 2 up as it means teams get a shot at div 1. I'd say a lot of the games that people thought were going to be total mis matches ended up to be decent (albeit the better team usually won) outings. The teams we thought would be in the top half are there

Yeah I would have thought that was the general consensus, need some way of creating some sort of incentive for the top half. Winning the league is clearly not a priority for any of the top 5.

Never was in the past so what sort of incentive is there? My take on it would be to have a champions league as such. Winners of the league play county league winners of other leagues (probably try a open draw) obviously if its a double winning team the second place team could enter if the club/county so chooses.


Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
If St. Galls stay up that will be some achievement.

You obviously know the league standing at the minute?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
What is the standing? They must have a chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
What is the standing? They must have a chance?

I thought you knew with that post? Or was that just a wild guess?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:55:49 PM
I haven't seen the table so honestly don't know. I know they have won twice from the split and play Sarsfields last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 02:55:49 PM
I haven't seen the table so honestly don't know. I know they have won twice from the split and play Sarsfields last.

Their victory over us was the proverbial 4 pointer and leaves ourselves and Sars at the bottom of the pit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:01:16 PM
Ballygalget I assume Johnny?? What is the points situation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:03:22 PM
Even if Ballygalget beat St Johns (in Corrigan) they have to score 40 odd points and hope we lose to Sarsfields.

In saying that the Johnnies may throw out their senior citizens for that game lol, they'd rather send us down so there may be hope.

sylvieslynanesnutsack, lazy post with no research  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
Can't find the league table on county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:14:03 PM
The league table is there from before the split, and the league results are there after the split, so.........

If Sarsfields win both their games they'd be on 9 points and Ports would have to win away to the Johnnies

I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:21:12 PM
Great achievement then!! Very difficult being a dual club were football (I assume) is the priority. Fair play! Top half has been a joke since the split. I've started going to division 2 games instead, much more physical and competitive affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Good win for rossa minors over st johns in the hurling last night. Is it cushendall in the final?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 19, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Good win for rossa minors over st johns in the hurling last night. Is it cushendall in the final?

Cushendall/Glenarm/Larne amalgamation

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 19, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Good win for rossa minors over st johns in the hurling last night. Is it cushendall in the final?

Cushendall/Glenarm/Larne amalgamation

So no matter who wins it, Rossa will be representing Antrim in the Ulster club championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:21:12 PM
Great achievement then!! Very difficult being a dual club were football (I assume) is the priority. Fair play! Top half has been a joke since the split. I've started going to division 2 games instead, much more physical and competitive affairs.

Well we've only managed 8 points to date with a game to go (against the paddies) first target achieved as such but anybody looking in would have said that the way the championship has been drawn, would be saying that the County final is the main target, I suppose it is now, Clooney Gaels (if you have watched any of their games) have been doing very well (albeit against Div 2 teams) but have gain momentum along the way, highest scoring in the league too!!

Will be a hard game for us, hopefully we can get to the next round!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 19, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Good win for rossa minors over st johns in the hurling last night. Is it cushendall in the final?

Cushendall/Glenarm/Larne amalgamation

So no matter who wins it, Rossa will be representing Antrim in the Ulster club championship?

No these players are registered Cushendall players I'd imagine to the end of the year, which is before the end of the Ulster Championship.

Rossa were unconvincing last night against a very spirtited Johnnies team, cracking game and fair fecks to both teams who wanted to hurl. Rossa done just enough but the Johnnies will rue a few easy frees they missed in the first half. Will Cushendall be favourites? Young Sambo is a gem of a player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
Clooney Gaels is a very hard game and like you say are a good attacking team. St. Galls are a bit short up front, and rely a lot on a strong defence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 19, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
Clooney Gaels is a very hard game and like you say are a good attacking team. St. Galls are a bit short up front, and rely a lot on a strong defence.

I think if Mackers can get the right ball then we'll do rightly if he doesn't then we are in a point for point type game! Not comfortable at all. I love Gaels hard working ethos, it's given them a great platform for winning games, they work very hard to get the ball into PJ and he generally makes the things tick once he gets the ball, either scoring or setting up. Great player and would don any team in Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2014, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 19, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Good win for rossa minors over st johns in the hurling last night. Is it cushendall in the final?

Cushendall/Glenarm/Larne amalgamation

So no matter who wins it, Rossa will be representing Antrim in the Ulster club championship?

No these players are registered Cushendall players I'd imagine to the end of the year, which is before the end of the Ulster Championship.

Rossa were unconvincing last night against a very spirtited Johnnies team, cracking game and fair fecks to both teams who wanted to hurl. Rossa done just enough but the Johnnies will rue a few easy frees they missed in the first half. Will Cushendall be favourites? Young Sambo is a gem of a player

I was only on the wind, we've a wee lad playing for us from St Pauls of Holywood, the Ports had a lad from Kilclief and Liatroim who are favourites for the Down minor championship have lads from surrounding clubs as well.
I'd prefer to see lads hurl with whoever than not at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 19, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
I agree the primary concern with transfers / sanctions is that young lads stay involved in the game - too many have been lost particularly in the city.
But there are of course other considerations / complications.

What's the story in down JC?
Does that represent ards clubs struggling?
Or a shift in hurling areas?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
i have to admit this years league has been a damp squib. ourselves and loughgiel played two games and both were the most dull affairs ever. ive never seen that before, hell we even managed to draw and win one, something we havent done in a fair few years in the league.

As others posted here, the top half split was not once ounce interesting and the bottom half was more competitive.

the attendances in alot of the league games this season were very poor also. Anyone else notice this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 20, 2014, 08:50:34 AM
i have to admit this years league has been a damp squib. ourselves and loughgiel played two games and both were the most dull affairs ever. ive never seen that before, hell we even managed to draw and win one, something we havent done in a fair few years in the league.

As others posted here, the top half split was not once ounce interesting and the bottom half was more competitive.

the attendances in alot of the league games this season were very poor also. Anyone else notice this?

It's certainly ironic that it seems to have has a better effect on the bottom half!
I think the crux of this is that teams just don't value winning it - but staying in it is important.
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2014, 09:33:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 19, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
I agree the primary concern with transfers / sanctions is that young lads stay involved in the game - too many have been lost particularly in the city.
But there are of course other considerations / complications.

What's the story in down JC?
Does that represent ards clubs struggling?
Or a shift in hurling areas?

It would be unfair to say that there hasn't been a bit of progress in (juvenile) hurling development outside the Ards as there has been most notably in the greater Belfast area and Liatroim have always been able to bring good hurlers through the ranks, just not enough of them and for a sustained period of time to do anything of note at senior level.
Two years ago, the U-16 hurling final was played out between Liatroim and Bredagh with Liatroim winning it, Bredagh were well beaten by Ballycran this year at minor, however Liatroim do seem to be developing and as say are still favourites to win at minor. Strangely enough their minor manager didn't until a few weeks ago allow any of them to play adult hurling which I find strange as there wouldn't be an awful lot of minor fixtures to sustain a team for the year. Our lads are threw into adult hurling as soon as they are the age.

The standard of hurling in the Ards has dropped considerably as can be seen with how both ourselves and Portaferry are faring in Antrim, Ballycran excepted as they now have a bunch of players peaking around the same time now, reaping the rewards of their domination of juvenile hurling in Down 10 or so years ago, culminating in an Ulster minor club title.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2014, 12:57:46 PM
going to Ballycran and Portaferry is still a tough place to get points at. Ballygalget have slipped over the past few years and would be deamed the weaker of the 3 down teams.

but Ballycran and Portaferry are extremly hard to beat at home. on the road the down teams seem to be easier to beat imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2014, 02:08:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

Yeah, seems to be true. A mate who was my coach when I was manager is coaching them this season, he said they struggled all year in getting out their best team.

But looking back there are teams that never materialise into a great team at senior, looking at our senior footballers on Saturday, the spine of the team is still the same players from one grade (more or less), any of the great wee players we had from very successful minor/under 21 teams have stopped playing, we tried to facilitate them with having 3 senior teams, ended up with us struggling to field these teams. Seems that if they weren't getting senior games they just left!!

Hard balancing act as a club to keep wining and bringing on or blooding new players while maintaining a wining streak. Refereed a almalagmation the other week, had 3 teams (senior grade) I think maybe 4 and they only had 2 subs!!!! Was Ardoyne, Pearses, McDermotts and Mitchells. Average age was about 34/35!! Shocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

Leagues are leagues, in such as teams will use them to better their cause come championship. That hasn't changed since pussy was a cat. The added problem you have now is the extended intercounty calendar putting the better club hurlers under huge pressure to fulfill the needs of two masters. That wasn't so even ten years ago.

Think of how many championship games Antrim have play this year, including the one (two  ;D ) in Ulster.
That is weekends which were either lost to clubs or players were asked to play two games in two days, hardly conducive to a competitive league or teams able to put out their best players without the risk of injury.

You'll see similar debates in most counties about the competitiveness of their leagues and gurning about starred games, best structures etc, etc, Antrim isn't the only ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

Give it purpose or something worthwhile, a fecking cash bonus, or tickets for the players for an All Ireland final. clubs could then raffle them off and make more money for the club. Any ideas are better than none Megaman? what's your's?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

Give it purpose or something worthwhile, a fecking cash bonus, or tickets for the players for an All Ireland final. clubs could then raffle them off and make more money for the club. Any ideas are better than none Megaman? what's your's?

Totally agree, which is why i said the league / championship format is very good format.

Others would be as you have said, cash bonus etc.

i also agree that any ideas are better than none which is why i asked the question!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 04:57:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

I say "back to" because it's an argument I have put forward several times - not that the actual idea has ever been tried.

Personally I think the top2 in div1 should be straight to a championship semi final.
The 3rd & 4th are in separate 1/4 finals where winners meet these top2 - and the rest play knockout to meet the 3/4 place teams with winners in turn facing 1st & 2nd from league in semis.
In this context I think league become a big deal and championship has some great match ups in every round.

Bredagh & carryduff will always in terms if hurling be a group of similar parents who's children play together rather than having the sustained tradition a GAA club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 09:11:30 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

Oh the play off years? We actually did benefit from those years, the senior team was in Div one and we started building a second team in div 4 which actually made it to div 2 because of the playoff, we won div 4 clean and came 4th in div3 and beat Cloughmills in the div 3 final in Ballycastle.

Think the starred games came after that 2004 maybe, it didn't work either, a fresh approach is required, its ok if you are an established team in Div 1 and can prepare that way DR, but if like us and the other teams trying to stay up its important to our development as a hurling team to be playing the big boys every year, only then can we make inroads to the SHC. as luck would have it we are in a position that we can get to a final, just the small matter of getting past Clooney and whoever in the other game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 21, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

That's true.
But to develop our clubs & county we need to change this.
It's not good enough that all that matters is potentially one game.
A whole season hurling - about one game?
Not good enough.
We have to find a way of creating a greater number meaningful games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 21, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
The Dunloy v Ballycastle game will be explosive for that very reason. For one of them, their entire season will start and end with that one game. Good luck to whoever is refereeing that game  ;) :o ...........lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2014, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 21, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
The Dunloy v Ballycastle game will be explosive for that very reason. For one of them, their entire season will start and end with that one game. Good luck to whoever is refereeing that game  ;) :o ...........lol

You catch on quick, championship games are knockout, are you new to hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 21, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
The Dunloy v Ballycastle game will be explosive for that very reason. For one of them, their entire season will start and end with that one game. Good luck to whoever is refereeing that game  ;) :o ...........lol

I would say you would have to go back a long way to find any bad blood between Dunloy and Ballycastle, it will competitive and championship hurling but there never appears to be the level of needle or animosity that are in some of the other North Antrim matches.

Should be safe enough MR2  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 22, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 21, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

That's true.
But to develop our clubs & county we need to change this.
It's not good enough that all that matters is potentially one game.
A whole season hurling - about one game?
Not good enough.
We have to find a way of creating a greater number meaningful games.

other counties have the back door system and relegation play offs to the senior/intermediate championship each season but they have more teams to work with.

this years is probably the most we have had enter it in quite some time but that needs to continue. With respect, the weaker clubs outside of the top 4, need to be brought up a bit. Having all these teams in Div 1 will improve them all. i seen sarsfields play in Dunloy this year and was impressed with them. they didnt look out of their depth at all. if teams like that can maintain their status and work their underage set up at the same time to continue a production of a panel then it will help.

i would love to see a championship where you have 6 potential winners rather than 1 or 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
DR if you believe the talk, then there are 5 potential winners of this championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 09:24:03 AM
The best team usually wins, the one that puts in the most effort. If we get our best 15 playing really well, then on the day we'd be a match for most teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 21, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

That's true.
But to develop our clubs & county we need to change this.
It's not good enough that all that matters is potentially one game.
A whole season hurling - about one game?
Not good enough.
We have to find a way of creating a greater number meaningful games.

other counties have the back door system and relegation play offs to the senior/intermediate championship each season but they have more teams to work with.

this years is probably the most we have had enter it in quite some time but that needs to continue. With respect, the weaker clubs outside of the top 4, need to be brought up a bit. Having all these teams in Div 1 will improve them all. i seen sarsfields play in Dunloy this year and was impressed with them. they didnt look out of their depth at all. if teams like that can maintain their status and work their underage set up at the same time to continue a production of a panel then it will help.

i would love to see a championship where you have 6 potential winners rather than 1 or 2.

Ironic in that the big NA teams are the ones pushed for smaller division 1 and the split so they just play each other more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 22, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 21, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

That's true.
But to develop our clubs & county we need to change this.
It's not good enough that all that matters is potentially one game.
A whole season hurling - about one game?
Not good enough.
We have to find a way of creating a greater number meaningful games.

other counties have the back door system and relegation play offs to the senior/intermediate championship each season but they have more teams to work with.

this years is probably the most we have had enter it in quite some time but that needs to continue. With respect, the weaker clubs outside of the top 4, need to be brought up a bit. Having all these teams in Div 1 will improve them all. i seen sarsfields play in Dunloy this year and was impressed with them. they didnt look out of their depth at all. if teams like that can maintain their status and work their underage set up at the same time to continue a production of a panel then it will help.

i would love to see a championship where you have 6 potential winners rather than 1 or 2.

Ironic in that the big NA teams are the ones pushed for smaller division 1 and the split so they just play each other more.

Well regardless of how they treated it after the split.

What is the benefit of them playing the SA teams? I have said it before, it is up to the Belfast teams, to start and take the thing seriously and get their levels up rather than bitching and whining about the NA teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 10:56:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 22, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 21, 2014, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2014, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 20, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2014, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 20, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
To galvanise the whole league fixtures maybe we're back to using it to seed the championship draw!

Remind me again when that was tried and deemed successful? I genuinely can't remember

Was chatting to a Bredagh man a few months back (a blow in like the rest of them). He said the kids/parents treated the place like a kids club and once they became big boys they just stopped doing 'that sort of stuff'. Bredaghs great U16/minor team from a couple of years ago has virtually none of that team still hurling, so he told me.

1999 league was very good, every game meaning something, irrespective of the final outcome its was a good league / championship set-up.

You obviously dont think so as you lost the final   ???

What do you suggest we do ref the leagues as they have been a joke for some time now, with the championship not far behind.

it was a load of tosh. we lost one game that year, the final. it was a daft proposal as it meant teams outside the top 4 with no hope of making it didnt give a damn about it, no more so that they do today.

the league is what its meant to be, for blooding new players, trying line ups out and getting match practice for what actually counts - the antrim hurling championship. thats all that means anything.

this isnt soccer and the premier league where winning it means a gateway to riches. Its a warm up session to the main event that is the SHC.

That's true.
But to develop our clubs & county we need to change this.
It's not good enough that all that matters is potentially one game.
A whole season hurling - about one game?
Not good enough.
We have to find a way of creating a greater number meaningful games.

other counties have the back door system and relegation play offs to the senior/intermediate championship each season but they have more teams to work with.

this years is probably the most we have had enter it in quite some time but that needs to continue. With respect, the weaker clubs outside of the top 4, need to be brought up a bit. Having all these teams in Div 1 will improve them all. i seen sarsfields play in Dunloy this year and was impressed with them. they didnt look out of their depth at all. if teams like that can maintain their status and work their underage set up at the same time to continue a production of a panel then it will help.

i would love to see a championship where you have 6 potential winners rather than 1 or 2.

Ironic in that the big NA teams are the ones pushed for smaller division 1 and the split so they just play each other more.

Well regardless of how they treated it after the split.

What is the benefit of them playing the SA teams? I have said it before, it is up to the Belfast teams, to start and take the thing seriously and get their levels up rather than bitching and whining about the NA teams.

Correct, there are no if's buts or maybe's its the only thing we (Belfast teams) can do to improve, get our own shit in order and stop worry about getting shafted. The amount of juvenile teams that Belfast has had over the years that had serious potential is criminal, I'd say they are on a par with all the NA clubs over the years in terms of winning championships but the work that needs to be done is the transition from juvenile to senior, that's is where we have failed in terms of development in hurling.

As a idea or a trial (I know it's been done in a way) why don't the Belfast senior clubs have one team after minor. A Belfast Rangers club. Proper affiliated club with a senior and reserve hurling team, It's a hard choice for the likes of Galls, Johnnies, Sarsfields and Rossa but there are some serious hurlers within those teams that if training all year as a club could make a big difference. Pie in the sky stuff as we are too set in our ways and I could never see Rossa and the Johnnies ever getting together. I'd like to have seen how us and Rossa would have faired had we been one club these past 8 years, possibly at least 2 or 3 championships
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
Fair points both NAG and MR2.
I put Belfast in the Antrim context in much the same place as Antrim in the national context - yes there's a role for administration to help, but fundamentally they've got to raise their own game. I just don't think belfast hurlers are committed enough to hurling when they get to senior level.
The merger idea is a non-runner mr2 although I understand your frustration. Firstly it reduces the number from each club hurling at their senior level so counter-productive and as you have already mentioned I think St. John's and Rossa have toxic relations at best.
Each club has to raise their own levels - there's so much effort in this regard but it has to come from a large body of players in their 20's to make a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
What was to stop loughgiel joining with someone when they couldn't win one for years? What's to stop Ballycastle joining someone now?  Teams joining like that is for underage.  Not teams with a history of winning and are bigger than that shit. The only thing they can do is dig in and get everyone to buy into the right way of doing things and give it a fecking lash!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
What was to stop loughgiel joining with someone when they couldn't win one for years? What's to stop Ballycastle joining someone now?  Teams joining like that is for underage.  Not teams with a history of winning and are bigger than that shit. The only thing they can do is dig in and get everyone to buy into the right way of doing things and give it a fecking lash!!!!

I get you, we lost div status in football won the league that following year went up into div 1 in football and won the championship, 2 ulster clubs and an all Ireland with that team. But like yourselves we have tradition in a particular code. Rossa who have that hurling tradition have struggled while producing great juvenile teams can't get their 'shit' together. St Johns will always be a football club, never let anyone tell you different.

While not winning much for years Sleeping Giant, you were still competing every year in finals, so the talent/commitment was there and paid off. For whatever reason in Belfast we can't get that. Was talking to a Rossa man at the minor match and we both thought it was weird that Ballycastle haven't won it in 30 years!!! Fecking Rossa have won it twice in that time lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
What was to stop loughgiel joining with someone when they couldn't win one for years? What's to stop Ballycastle joining someone now?  Teams joining like that is for underage.  Not teams with a history of winning and are bigger than that shit. The only thing they can do is dig in and get everyone to buy into the right way of doing things and give it a fecking lash!!!!

Because no one would join with you SG  ;)

Good point though, dig in do the ground work and keep the kids interested and involved the whole way through. Its the only way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2014, 12:14:10 PM
Every year..................in the end there can be only one.

Its up to every club to "respect the game" (as Paudie Butler talks about) enough to try their very best, prepare and work at their hurling craft every year as best they can at all agegroups. A club can be proud of the fact that they're respecting the game   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:20:23 PM
Would be great to see a Belfast club formed exclusively to play hurling. The passion is there for the sport. Everyone has their club history and tradition but I'm convinced there would be enough interest. Has to be a long term plan though. With the exception of Dunloy that is a big bonus to the traditional North Antrim hurling clubs, one focus!! MR2 the point I was making is simply that Dunloy and Ballycastle care so little for the league, that for one of them their entire season will be one championship game. So many people care for hurling in Antrim and that is very positive. There is a lot of great work being done at underage, even in the smallest of clubs but like a few of you have stated, it's getting them through to senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:20:23 PM
Would be great to see a Belfast club formed exclusively to play hurling. The passion is there for the sport. Everyone has their club history and tradition but I'm convinced there would be enough interest. Has to be a long term plan though. With the exception of Dunloy that is a big bonus to the traditional North Antrim hurling clubs, one focus!! MR2 the point I was making is simply that Dunloy and Ballycastle care so little for the league, that for one of them their entire season will be one championship game. So many people care for hurling in Antrim and that is very positive. There is a lot of great work being done at underage, even in the smallest of clubs but like a few of you have stared, it's getting them through to senior level.

Yeah, we've established that the league has never really cared, and seasons do come down to one encounter in the championship that's been the norm for years. Come 7.15 on Sat night one team will be progressing and the other will be wondering what if!! Will be the same on Sunday in the other quarters. Think'll head down to see how these games go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
Definitely, will be a big weekend. Carey v Clooney Gaels this Sunday will be interesting to a lot of people. Bit of mileage clocked up the following weekend between Saturday night and Sunday. I see referees all named for Championship except Naomh Gall v Clooney Gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 12:45:55 PM
How can it be great to see a Belfast club formed for hurling.  Your taking away 2/3 clubs to form 1?  When if the 2/3 clubs in question pulled there finger out they could make antrim hurling!!! The 3 clubs have plenty of there own history.  Can come down to one thing only for me.  Attitude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 12:45:55 PM
How can it be great to see a Belfast club formed for hurling.  Your taking away 2/3 clubs to form 1?  When if the 2/3 clubs in question pulled there finger out they could make antrim hurling!!! The 3 clubs have plenty of there own history.  Can come down to one thing only for me.  Attitude

SG what are you ranting about? I'm talking about a new club targeting young players who only want to play hurling. Not taking players from other clubs - hence the long term plan. You would think (being from Loughguile) you could sympathize with a club who want to stick with one code. You have no idea of the difficulties of being a dual club. Are you telling me a player who trains 3 times a week for football and can't make hurling training has a bad attitude?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 12:45:55 PM
How can it be great to see a Belfast club formed for hurling.  Your taking away 2/3 clubs to form 1?  When if the 2/3 clubs in question pulled there finger out they could make antrim hurling!!! The 3 clubs have plenty of there own history.  Can come down to one thing only for me.  Attitude

Yes attitude and sticking to the one code has proved successful for a number of NA clubs, that's why that same ATTITUDE could be adopted for A club in Belfast, we will never have the panel strong enough to compete yearly at senior level while our footballers continue to win senior football championships Rossa annoy me in that they have had loads of talent but underachieved and the Johnnies are still a football club trying to hurl.

We could say that the football clubs aren't pulling the finger out when it comes to senior championship as in the last 13 years, only one club (Cargin) has won a single Championship. Poor return.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:03:12 PM
No rant.  So your gonna take hurlers from other clubs to form a club.  Killing teams to form a team.  When I said attitude.  It means.  IMO there's plenty of talent at each of the clubs.  But it's IMO there attitude holding them back.  That ok??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:03:12 PM
No rant.  So your gonna take hurlers from other clubs to form a club.  Killing teams to form a team.  When I said attitude.  It means.  IMO there's plenty of talent at each of the clubs.  But it's IMO there attitude holding them back.  That ok??

Look as I said in my post it's pie in the sky stuff, never going to happen, especially with the bigger so called clubs, I'd just like to see how a hurling only club would develop, we can debate about it till the cows come home aint happening lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:07:23 PM
Milltown, give over ffs. That's like saying the rest of Antrim should amalgamate to try and stop St Galls winning the football.

Fcukin crazy idea. Amalgamating is for when clubs don't have numbers, not for All Star teams.

It's just a thought, I've said a million times it aint happening with the bigger clubs, keep your knickers on and read my posts properly. We won't be winning many more soon at senior football, at the end of the road for us I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on August 22, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
Amalgamating three clubs in Carlow to form Mt Leinster has proved successful, id imagine there was plenty of opposition to the amalgamation when it was first proposed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
 North Antrim team V south antrim team.  Play a final and win the all Ireland every year. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: ardtole on August 22, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
Amalgamating three clubs in Carlow to form Mt Leinster has proved successful, id imagine there was plenty of opposition to the amalgamation when it was first proposed.
Successful for who? The players who played on the team?
Fcuk everyone else?
agreed!!!   And I don't care what anyone says. Them lads might have showed a lot of fight against us and fair play. But you can't beat winning with lads you've grown up with and slogged it out with for years on end!!  Pride in your parish or town and the jersey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Who will yis amalgamate with then? ::)


Milltown, it's got nothing to do with the 'bigger' teams not wanting it, it's just a simple fact that amalgamating just because you're not winning championships is the biggest pile of ballix.
If your club has enough players to field a team, you field a fcukin team!!

I mentioned in my original post that a club would be it's own club, that it would be a single code club without the distractions of having to organise football games/training or the like, which is a distraction. Obviously this would initially cause hassle. Again I've said it won't happen. I'm happy to be a Galls man, and would like nothing more to see us regularly matching the NA teams in Championship, a bit like the way Rossa did
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2014, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:19:43 PM
But you can't beat winning with lads you've grown up with and slogged it out with for years on end!!  Pride in your parish or town and the jersey.

+1 (maybe the parish/town bit is a difficult one for the slickers)

This whole notion that MLR winning leinster championships is the true measure of success is so blinkered and short termed. Over time, increasing participation levels especially at senior level would be a measure of success that I would value more. In the heartlands down south, every hole in the hedge has a team an most would field at least 3 senior teams (more clubs and bigger player numbers means a better pick of IC standard). Up here in a lot of clubs there appears to be a prevailing attitude with young lads of "I'll give it a go for a year or two and see if I can make it onto the senior team and if it doesnt work it that's me finished."
That needs to change. Whats wrong with playing reserve hurling for your club for 10 years at Senior? Hurling is a great game to play, so why not continue to enjoy playing it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2014, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:19:43 PM
But you can't beat winning with lads you've grown up with and slogged it out with for years on end!!  Pride in your parish or town and the jersey.

+1 (maybe the parish/town bit is a difficult one for the slickers)

This whole notion that MLR winning leinster championships is the true measure of success is so blinkered and short termed. Over time, increasing participation levels especially at senior level would be a measure of success that I would value more. In the heartlands down south, every hole in the hedge has a team an most would field at least 3 senior teams (more clubs and bigger player numbers means a better pick of IC standard). Up here in a lot of clubs there appears to be a prevailing attitude with young lads of "I'll give it a go for a year or two and see if I can make it onto the senior team and if it doesnt work it that's me finished."
That needs to change. Whats wrong with playing reserve hurling for your club for 10 years at Senior? Hurling is a great game to play, so why not continue to enjoy playing it.

They'd rather play 5 a sides and revel in the 3/4 goals they score and pints afters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Who will yis amalgamate with then? ::)


Milltown, it's got nothing to do with the 'bigger' teams not wanting it, it's just a simple fact that amalgamating just because you're not winning championships is the biggest pile of ballix.
If your club has enough players to field a team, you field a fcukin team!!

I mentioned in my original post that a club would be it's own club, that it would be a single code club without the distractions of having to organise football games/training or the like, which is a distraction. Obviously this would initially cause hassle. Again I've said it won't happen. I'm happy to be a Galls man, and would like nothing more to see us regularly matching the NA teams in Championship, a bit like the way Rossa did
yes I no MR2. I club on its own. Is it gonna wait 18 years to play senior. Or take hurlers from different clubs, only way forward is roll up the selves.  The talent is there.  Maybe if this galls football team dies of in the next few years we might see use give it a rattle. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Who will yis amalgamate with then? ::)


Milltown, it's got nothing to do with the 'bigger' teams not wanting it, it's just a simple fact that amalgamating just because you're not winning championships is the biggest pile of ballix.
If your club has enough players to field a team, you field a fcukin team!!

I mentioned in my original post that a club would be it's own club, that it would be a single code club without the distractions of having to organise football games/training or the like, which is a distraction. Obviously this would initially cause hassle. Again I've said it won't happen. I'm happy to be a Galls man, and would like nothing more to see us regularly matching the NA teams in Championship, a bit like the way Rossa did
yes I no MR2. I club on its own. Is it gonna wait 18 years to play senior. Or take hurlers from different clubs, only way forward is roll up the selves.  The talent is there.  Maybe if this galls football team dies of in the next few years we might see use give it a rattle.

Problem with that is once their football team goes on the downward slope with age, so do their best hurlers.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 22, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2014, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Who will yis amalgamate with then? ::)


Milltown, it's got nothing to do with the 'bigger' teams not wanting it, it's just a simple fact that amalgamating just because you're not winning championships is the biggest pile of ballix.
If your club has enough players to field a team, you field a fcukin team!!

I mentioned in my original post that a club would be it's own club, that it would be a single code club without the distractions of having to organise football games/training or the like, which is a distraction. Obviously this would initially cause hassle. Again I've said it won't happen. I'm happy to be a Galls man, and would like nothing more to see us regularly matching the NA teams in Championship, a bit like the way Rossa did
yes I no MR2. I club on its own. Is it gonna wait 18 years to play senior. Or take hurlers from different clubs, only way forward is roll up the selves.  The talent is there.  Maybe if this galls football team dies of in the next few years we might see use give it a rattle.

Problem with that is once their football team goes on the downward slope with age, so do their best hurlers.

I know  :( :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
One of those days when lunch is great reading the board!
Great points all round from the amalgamate vs roll up sleeves debate and dual
Clubs! I always find when so many are in agreement I'm sure the powers that be must think likewise but can they do anything to shape the future?
Great work going on in clubs to address much but can't escape the need for the group of 20 something year olds to adopt hurling as a way of life - and not cry off for easier options. That'll be the test of any progress in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
What be considered a good result for the u21 hurlers today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 23, 2014, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
What be considered a good result for the u21 hurlers today

Personally i think if we get within 10 points i think it would be a great showing. Would love to be 'in the game' at half time, would be a real sign of progress from last years meeting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 12:17:35 PM
I'm hearing clooney have a load of injuries after their football tussle with naomh gall. Smart money on the paddies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 12:28:19 PM
Have you been sniffing glue SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 23, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
Id back the paddies for an upset
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 01:17:14 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 12:28:19 PM
Have you been sniffing glue SIE?
no. I was talking to someone from the Gaels' club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:22:47 PM
Well if it's true (i don't believe it for a second) was wondering how that suddenly increases Sarsfields chances? I'm not trying to be smart by the way, but I am interested in your view.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 01:27:02 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:22:47 PM
Well if it's true (i don't believe it for a second) was wondering how that suddenly increases Sarsfields chances? I'm not trying to be smart by the way, but I am interested in your view.
well, I'm only going by what I was told. Clooney would be favourites with a first choice team but if the injuries are as bad as I've heard then surely it cuts the strength of their team bringing sarsfields more into the equation. By the way, it was a question. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
Naomh Gall people may have something to say about that??? Not sure either how you have Clooney Gaels as favourites?? Sarsfields were a better team than them last year and if anything have grown (albeit a little) this year, with the experience of playing better teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 01:37:06 PM
I never said anything about st galls and neither did the fella I was talking to other than it was a physical game. I don't know what you're getting at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
Are you talking about hurling championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
Are you talking about hurling championship?
aye. Apparently they've injuries carried over from the football championship. Am I missing something here? I don't think it's that complicated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:50:08 PM
My point is surely St.Galls are favourites, given it is they who play Clooney Gaels in the quarter final. If St. Galls do get through (take nothing for granted this is a tough game) they again would be slight favourites against Sarsfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2014, 02:20:45 PM
Sarfields have not got past the first round of the Intermediate championship in 6/7 years never mind the senior championship!! Sarsfields will be favs against Cloughmills and we'll be favs against Clooney Gaels, Cloughmills and Clooney Gaels have done well recently in the league and bring form, as for Ahoghill's game against us, it was pretty pedestrian and they must have got hurt somewhere else, I was at the game also and never noticed it being tough.

Sarsfields first 15 is very good, be hard to handle if they all click, be level enough with us, and have beaten us a few times these last couple of years, so there are no hang ups, discipline is maybe their only downfall. I hope we meet them in the semi, petty Casement is gone, would have been a cracking day on the Andytown road
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 23, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
Naomh Gall people may have something to say about that??? Not sure either how you have Clooney Gaels as favourites?? Sarsfields were a better team than them last year and if anything have grown (albeit a little) this year, with the experience of playing better teams.

Clooney Gaels beat Sarsfields in the quarter final of last years intermediate championship, so clearly Clooney were better than Sarsfields last year. Still fancy St Galls to beat them this year though. Cloughmills will beat Sarsfields in the other quarter final. Sarsfields never seem to bring it onto the championship field. Will be two tight games in any case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
I don't know why I thought clooney played sarsfields. My bad.  :-[

Anyhow, they've got injuries apparently.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
Bonamargy, unlike division one, division 2 teams put out full teams for league games and have a big incentive to win the league or come second. Based on that, Sarsfields were a better team than Clooney Gaels last year. Your point on championship quarter final is very valid though and hard to argue with. PS I'm assuming you're either Ballycastle or Carey, based on your username.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 03:18:43 PM
I don't know why I thought clooney played sarsfields. My bad.  :-[

Anyhow, they've got injuries apparently.  :-\

SIE I was wondering how we got our wires so crossed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 03:31:40 PM
I couldn't make it down for the u21 semi this year. I'll have to watch it on tg4 and try to decipher the commentary with my extremely ropey Irish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
This Clare team are unreal. Pace, physicality and skill all over the field. Young Clarke playing well for Antrim. Great run to set up mcafee's goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
This Clare team are unreal. Pace, physicality and skill all over the field. Young Clarke playing well for Antrim. Great run to set up mcafee's goal.

The goal that wasn't
Put it in with his hand. Clarke got three balls in to him and looks lively
Some basic errors making the score line worse
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
This Clare team are unreal. Pace, physicality and skill all over the field. Young Clarke playing well for Antrim. Great run to set up mcafee's goal.

The goal that wasn't
Put it in with his hand. Clarke got three balls in to him and looks lively
Some basic errors making the score line worse
He'd be a hard nosed sh*te that wouldn't have let that one go in the circumstances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
Eoghan Campbell, Stephen McAfee and Jackson McGreevey all holding their own too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 05:01:38 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
Eoghan Campbell, Stephen McAfee and Jackson McGreevey all holding their own too.

Stogie in the game since he moved out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Such is Clares power, pace, movement, decision making etc.... I see no Antrim player able to hold their own. They play next to no 50:50 balls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
Saul also doing well since he came on. Don't talk nonsense skull!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 23, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Such is Clares power, pace, movement, decision making etc.... I see no Antrim player able to hold their own. They play next to no 50:50 balls


Their some team
Is that young Burke on Cunningham
He's getting some roasting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
Fair play to clare manager on Antrim
Saying Antrim need better matches before this stage
He even slated ulster council
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
Agree north antrim he was honest and dignified!! Good to hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
Saul also doing well since he came on. Don't talk nonsense skull!!

One mans doing well is another mans holding their own it would seem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2014, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 23, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
Saul also doing well since he came on. Don't talk nonsense skull!!

One mans doing well is another mans holding their own it would seem

I thought sol should have started. He must not have been training or something
Some decent performances from some antrim players against a team with players with all iteland senior medals

Clare's better hurling- pace strength, speed of thought all come form better training regimes and tougher matches. Most of those players have trained for years now under davy fitz plus u21 training
Clare spent 900 grand on county teams last year and 1.2 mill the year before
How much did we spend

I was disappointed with out 50/50 ball contesting
You can't stand and watch someone catch a ball and do nothing

The clare manager is dead right u21 and minor into Leinster as well

Problem for us is the good will and commitment there from players, clubs and fans

Anyway well done to clare- what a fantastic team   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
Going into Leinster raises financial questions - it should happen but with our county executive lets not forget sambo wasn't allowed to take a team down for a friendly game!
If it does happen - and I hope it does - it cannot be allowed to paralyse club fixtures otherwise we just go the same way as our seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 23, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
Bonamargy, unlike division one, division 2 teams put out full teams for league games and have a big incentive to win the league or come second. Based on that, Sarsfields were a better team than Clooney Gaels last year. Your point on championship quarter final is very valid though and hard to argue with. PS I'm assuming you're either Ballycastle or Carey, based on your username.

I don't think anyone at Clooney Gaels would swap their season last year for that of Sarsfields. As has been discussed on this site in detail this week. Leagues are for playing, championships are for winning. I am indeed black and amber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
League incentive is different for division 2 teams though.......Don't think a Ballycastle man should be using that quote. Almost 30 years if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 23, 2014, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
League incentive is different for division 2 teams though.......Don't think a Ballycastle man should be using that quote. Almost 30 years if I'm not mistaken.

28 years. Doesn't mean you stop trying, or place more importance in winning the league over championship. I would swap 10 worthless league titles for another volunteer cup. Only The Shamrocks have more championships than us atm. Nobody gives a fiddlers about the leagues. It is all about championship at all levels of hurling from under 14 feile to the all Ireland championship. Have you not been around hurling for long enough to understand that? I am proud of the history of my club McQuillans Ballycastle. What club are you from yourself? You haven't included that in your profile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
I agree it is all about championship Bonamargy but surely you can understand the importance of a senior division two team and the importance they attach to gaining promotion. Your own club has done it in the recent past. There is a lot more to be gained in development and experience  (regularly playing the top teams) from this as they have little chance of winning the championship. Ask Glenariffe, Sarsfields, Naomh Gall. Staying or getting promoted to the top flight is high on their agenda. I seem to have hit a nerve. Bit of humility goes a long way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 23, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
You asked my club and I told you, so you come back with a smart dig about 30 years. I wouldn't swap my club for yours. You can't even do me the courtesy of answering what club you are from. Good luck in your league campaign lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 10:42:00 PM
My goodness you're sensitive. Good luck with championship, I actually think you will run Loughguile closer than anyone else. You have both the forwards and defenders to do so. Horses for courses!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 23, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Time will tell. What is said on here will make do difference on the field. I am away out now for a pint or seven down the Town. Good luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 23, 2014, 10:53:27 PM
Enjoy Bonamargy - watch all the headcases about this weekend in the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on August 24, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
How long have antrim seniors been in leinster and how much of an improvement has it made to all Ireland title chances
Remember cork w e re destroyed by that team aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 24, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
Think if minors, U21s, possibly even younger were getting that competition regularly it can't do us any harm. Was at all group league games this year (even though it was middle of the road teams) we have definitely improved. Even the Wexford game we were competitive, just silly goals cost us. All Ireland is a long long way off yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 12:17:30 PM
I think if anything it even more important that minors would be in Leinster than the seniors - I repeat however - not at the expense of internal fixtures.
Play there for more games - don't cut off out nose to spite out face by cancelling them with the other hand.
Play play and play more games.
This builds the pool of hurlers - if someone gets injured then there's another to take their chance in their place. And on we go.
The disease around the country of club fixtures cancelled to preserve the tiny minority of county players is one of the biggest threats we face.
In terms of the seniors - I'm really not sure we have progressed much at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 24, 2014, 12:32:32 PM
Agree with almost everything. We have made a tiny bit of progress, you would be contradicting yourself  if you said otherwise and here is why. You said only way to improve is games, games, games. That's what the group league did. They may not have been the greatest teams in Ireland but they are a step up from Down, Derry and Armagh. I'm not saying it's perfect (far from it). But being in Leinster is a step in the right direction. 

I agree 100%, the younger our players are playing at Leinster level the better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 12:38:30 PM
Not a contradiction at all.
Here's why:

- perhaps the benefit of the increased games is realised from minor and by senior it's not sufficient to progress "that much" is what I said.

- also the insistence on cancelling games if they are within a light year of a county game has off set any benefit of increased Leinster games by stagnating our club scene and inhibiting players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 24, 2014, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 24, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
Think if minors, U21s, possibly even younger were getting that competition regularly it can't do us any harm. Was at all group league games this year (even though it was middle of the road teams) we have definitely improved. Even the Wexford game we were competitive, just silly goals cost us. All Ireland is a long long way off yet.

How do we address the lack of interest that exist in every club with members and young players
The clare team on view yesterday is the pick of there clubs- can we say the same
We need to get the prestige of hurling for the county from u16 up
For every hurler that was on view for Antrim yesterday we have lost ones just as good due to a feeling of no status or credibility for the saffron jersey
All of us have some accountability for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 24, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
I've always wondered how much we are affected by the following;
Half our population (in the north) is protestant.
Very, very few protestants play hurling.
Do we therefore suffer from having a smaller pool?
Maybe someone can shed a little light on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
Simple but good point sylvie.

In terms of commitment - I doubt loughgiel are having much problems - it's a success thing. 

Couple that with shoddy admin shooting ourselves in the foot and hurling for Antrim isn't always an attractive prospect.

Not the way it should be - but a reality.

Once the teenage years of modelling Antrim gear is no longer impressive there's not much left?

Just a theory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2014, 07:24:23 PM
It's not just a success thing, Although that helps undoubtedly. The thing is there isn't much else for young fellas and girls to do around loughgiel other than head for the pitch of an evening and strike a few balls. There's very little in the way of distractions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2014, 07:24:23 PM
It's not just a success thing, Although that helps undoubtedly. The thing is there isn't much else for young fellas and girls to do around loughgiel other than head for the pitch of an evening and strike a few balls. There's very little in the way of distractions.

I have to say seeing north Antrim hurling fields swarming with kids at half time or even when there's no organised session on is something we don't get in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 24, 2014, 07:47:56 PM
It's a great sight seeing the pitches swamped at halftime. Btd, I assumed you were North Antrim, don't know why!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 24, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
Definitely, will be a big weekend. Carey v Clooney Gaels this Sunday will be interesting to a lot of people. Bit of mileage clocked up the following weekend between Saturday night and Sunday. I see referees all named for Championship except Naomh Gall v Clooney Gaels.

With us having no game today and the weather being good, I wanted to see a game of hurling, so we went up and watched Carey V Clooney Gaels. Despite having a man harshly sent off after 20 minutes, having played 15 v 14 for most of the game, before Clooney got a man sent off with 5 mins to go, Carey absolutely destroyed them 6-11 to 3-6. I spoke to some spectators from both teams, Clooney were just about at full strength, and the Carey supporters said that they had a lot of injuries during the league and are just getting their full team out now.  Can't see Clooney beating St Galls on this performance, Carey were impressive and surely a challenger to Rossa in the intermediate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2014, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 24, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
Definitely, will be a big weekend. Carey v Clooney Gaels this Sunday will be interesting to a lot of people. Bit of mileage clocked up the following weekend between Saturday night and Sunday. I see referees all named for Championship except Naomh Gall v Clooney Gaels.

With us having no game today and the weather being good, I wanted to see a game of hurling, so we went up and watched Carey V Clooney Gaels. Despite having a man harshly sent off after 20 minutes, having played 15 v 14 for most of the game, before Clooney got a man sent off with 5 mins to go, Carey absolutely destroyed them 6-11 to 3-6. I spoke to some spectators from both teams, Clooney were just about at full strength, and the Carey supporters said that they had a lot of injuries during the league and are just getting their full team out now.  Can't see Clooney beating St Galls on this performance, Carey were impressive and surely a challenger to Rossa in the intermediate.

While the weather was piss and the pitch heavy I thought Carey were ordinary against Creggan. Rossa are well ahead in the league and racked up a big score today also. They may meet in the final but Glenariffe be happy enough that no one is talking them up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2014, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 24, 2014, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 22, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
Definitely, will be a big weekend. Carey v Clooney Gaels this Sunday will be interesting to a lot of people. Bit of mileage clocked up the following weekend between Saturday night and Sunday. I see referees all named for Championship except Naomh Gall v Clooney Gaels.

With us having no game today and the weather being good, I wanted to see a game of hurling, so we went up and watched Carey V Clooney Gaels. Despite having a man harshly sent off after 20 minutes, having played 15 v 14 for most of the game, before Clooney got a man sent off with 5 mins to go, Carey absolutely destroyed them 6-11 to 3-6. I spoke to some spectators from both teams, Clooney were just about at full strength, and the Carey supporters said that they had a lot of injuries during the league and are just getting their full team out now.  Can't see Clooney beating St Galls on this performance, Carey were impressive and surely a challenger to Rossa in the intermediate.

While the weather was piss and the pitch heavy I thought Carey were ordinary against Creggan. Rossa are well ahead in the league and racked up a big score today also. They may meet in the final but Glenariffe be happy enough that no one is talking them up

Must be my red diesel sylvie!

I agree.
I would like to see Rossa win but glenarrife will be delighted how they approach the championship as underdogs and yet more than able For Rossa.
Carey perhaps in same boat - sure that's what makes championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2014, 10:45:21 PM
Who said they'd be delighted with their league? Where is that written?

Being delighted to be underdogs for championship is a totally different thing.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 24, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
So what does 'approach the championship' mean? I'm interested.

Have you seen them in some secret friendly games?

It means they approach the championship?
And as underdogs it's a nice way to prepare for a game.
I have no idea what you are, or are not getting here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 25, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
i would be very surprised if glenariffe won the intermediate, they are a pale shadow of the poor team they used to be.

i would fancy Rossa to win it.

Seniors, lougheil at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 25, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 25, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
i would be very surprised if glenariffe won the intermediate, they are a pale shadow of the poor team they used to be.

i would fancy Rossa to win it.

Seniors, lougheil at a canter.
+1, they duffed St.Pauls yesterday who have been going better of late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
I would be stunned if we won the Intemediate championship, I can assure you our league campaign is a good barometer of our level at the minute. No extenuating circumstances, injuries, players away etc.

It is what it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2014, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
I would be stunned if we won the Intemediate championship, I can assure you our league campaign is a good barometer of our level at the minute. No extenuating circumstances, injuries, players away etc.

It is what it is.

Rossa, Glenariffe and Carey to get past their teams with a bit to spare, the other game will be a lot tighter, Armoy v St Pauls. Providing St Pauls keep 15 on the pitch the whole time they might get over the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 11:35:11 AM
I agree all being things being constant Rossa should and hopefully will win.
But like I said - it championship. Things happen.
And glenarrife and carey will relish the chance of an upset.
Will also be interested to see if st endas underage efforts are bearing any fruit - and if St. Paul's or Lamh dearg produce anything.

Also agree the volunteer cup is destined for loughgiel - a record breaking win which at this stage would be an indisputable and wholly deserved place in the history books.

The junior championship is perhaps most susceptible to a surprise?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 25, 2014, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 11:35:11 AM
I agree all being things being constant Rossa should and hopefully will win.
But like I said - it championship. Things happen.
And glenarrife and carey will relish the chance of an upset.
Will also be interested to see if st endas underage efforts are bearing any fruit - and if St. Paul's or Lamh dearg produce anything.

Also agree the volunteer cup is destined for loughgiel - a record breaking win which at this stage would be an indisputable and wholly deserved place in the history books.

The junior championship is perhaps most susceptible to a surprise?
Not as good a crop as we would have hoped or need, only one of our A grade minors has made it through to senior and although our minors are in B this season we do have young Conlon who is one of the best in the county. Just not enough to push on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 12:56:34 PM
How do you think it will pan out over the next number of years last man?
Will st endas become a strong intermediate or even senior?
Or is minor the limit?
So hard without the tradition of hurling - no disrespect intended.
Do the young lads stop playing?
Do any go elsewhere?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 25, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 12:56:34 PM
How do you think it will pan out over the next number of years last man?
Will st endas become a strong intermediate or even senior?
Or is minor the limit?
So hard without the tradition of hurling - no disrespect intended.
Do the young lads stop playing?
Do any go elsewhere?
I think we'll struggle, it's just so hard to get them through with the lack of as you so rightly say hurling tradition. Its just seen as a leisure time activity for most with so few hurling families in the club trying to promote it. 10 years ago i'd have been predicting strong intermediate level for us by now but I now know that this takes a level of grit and determination that we cant seem to grasp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
Similar story for the best city teams when it comes to competing at the top level - galls understand what's needed I think but the dual issue stops it being feasible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 25, 2014, 05:22:36 PM
Some predictions for the craic, what do you think?

Senior Championship:

Ballycastle V Dunloy - Town by 2
Loughgiel V Cushendall - Shams by 7
St Galls V Clooney - Galls by 8
Cloughmills V Sarsfields - Biddies by 1

Intermediate Championship

Rossa V St Endas - Rossa by 20+
St Paul's V Armoy - St Paul's by 3
Carey V Lamh Dhearg - Carey by 6
Glenariff V Gortnamona - Osian by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 26, 2014, 12:18:27 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 25, 2014, 05:22:36 PM
Some predictions for the craic, what do you think?

Senior Championship:

Ballycastle V Dunloy - Town by 2
Loughgiel V Cushendall - Shams by 7
St Galls V Clooney - Galls by 8
Cloughmills V Sarsfields - Biddies by 1

Intermediate Championship

Rossa V St Endas - Rossa by 20+
St Paul's V Armoy - St Paul's by 3
Carey V Lamh Dhearg - Carey by 6
Glenariff V Gortnamona - Osian by 5

Hard to call winning margins but I would agree with you on all results.
Except I'm hoping sarsfields div1 can beat cloughmills div2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 26, 2014, 12:40:40 PM
my punt on this weekend

very hard to call alot of these games.

if we get by ballycastle, which will be a tough call, i would prefer Loughgiel. Cushendall are harder, IMO, to beat for ourselves. they have beaten us 4 times in a row now. Loughgiel, well no Dunloy player should ever need motivation to play our local rivals. i would be more comfortable with us playing them. thats still no guarentee we would even win tho!!

Senior Championship:

Ballycastle V Dunloy - Dunloy by 1 point
Loughgiel V Cushendall - Loughgiel by 4
St Galls V Clooney - very tough to call, a point or 3 in it either way
Cloughmills V Sarsfields - Cloughmills by 4

Intermediate Championship

Rossa V St Endas - Rossa by 15+
St Paul's V Armoy - St Paul's by 6
Carey V Lamh Dhearg - Carey by 8
Glenariff V Gortnamona - Osian by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 26, 2014, 03:03:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2014, 12:40:40 PM
my punt on this weekend

very hard to call alot of these games.

if we get by ballycastle, which will be a tough call, i would prefer Loughgiel. Cushendall are harder, IMO, to beat for ourselves. they have beaten us 4 times in a row now. Loughgiel, well no Dunloy player should ever need motivation to play our local rivals. i would be more comfortable with us playing them. thats still no guarentee we would even win tho!!

Senior Championship:

Ballycastle V Dunloy - Dunloy by 1 point
Loughgiel V Cushendall - Loughgiel by 4
St Galls V Clooney - very tough to call, a point or 3 in it either way
Cloughmills V Sarsfields - Cloughmills by 4

Intermediate Championship

Rossa V St Endas - Rossa by 15+
St Paul's V Armoy - St Paul's by 6
Carey V Lamh Dhearg - Carey by 8
Glenariff V Gortnamona - Osian by 5
Did Dunloy not beat the Dall in the Feis Cup final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2014, 08:50:04 AM
Aye but that doesnt count, unless its loughgiel were playing in it i couldnt care less if we lose! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
Just wondering with the bad spell of weather lately how all the championship venue pitches are doing?

Could have a major impact on some of the games I would have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2014, 02:04:32 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2656490

According that it doesn't seem to bad, not as bad as last day out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 28, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
Championship week & it's very quiet on here.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 29, 2014, 08:51:20 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 28, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
Just wondering with the bad spell of weather lately how all the championship venue pitches are doing?

Could have a major impact on some of the games I would have thought.
Ballycastle and loughgiels pitch should hold up for the two local matches this weekend. the winds been blowing like hell up our part so it should dry it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 12:20:39 PM
If it rains all day today then well and good. Hopefully it will stay off tomorrow and Sunday for perfect conditions.

Rossa by 10
Oisins by 8
Ballycastle by 4
Carey by 4
Loughgiel by 6
Sarsfields by 2
Naomh Gall by 5
St. Pauls by 3   

I'm so excited, it feels like Christmas. The only potential shock I can see is Armoy to beat St. Pauls.
I'll get to 5 games over the two days. Loughgiel on Saturday, Ballymena then Ballycastle on Sunday. Throw in U10 training tonight and that's one hurling filled weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 29, 2014, 01:38:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 12:20:39 PM
If it rains all day today then well and good. Hopefully it will stay off tomorrow and Sunday for perfect conditions.

Rossa by 10
Oisins by 8
Ballycastle by 4
Carey by 4
Loughgiel by 6
Sarsfields by 2
Naomh Gall by 5
St. Pauls by 3   

I'm so excited, it feels like Christmas. The only potential shock I can see is Armoy to beat St. Pauls.
I'll get to 5 games over the two days. Loughgiel on Saturday, Ballymena then Ballycastle on Sunday. Throw in U10 training tonight and that's one hurling filled weekend.

What position do you play?
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 01:53:46 PM

What position do you play?
8)
[/quote]

Manager and fan cool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 29, 2014, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 01:53:46 PM

What position do you play?
8)

Manager and fan cool
[/quote]

Next he'll be telling us, hes a ref too!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 29, 2014, 03:37:16 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 01:53:46 PM

What position do you play?
8)

Manager and fan cool

Next he'll be telling us, hes a ref too!!!
[/quote]

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Only an eejit would be a ref  ;) for example, while I'm enjoying Ballycastle v Dunloy someone will be under pressure........Joking, full respect for referees. Loughgiel, on their Facebook page have asked all fans to refrain from shouting abuse at officials at the players request. Again this is to be respected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2014, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Only an eejit would be a ref  ;) for example, while I'm enjoying Ballycastle v Dunloy someone will be under pressure........Joking, full respect for referees. Loughgiel, on their Facebook page have asked all fans to refrain from shouting abuse at officials at the players request. Again this is to be respected.

They didn't do a wee smiley face  ;D after it did they or a  ;) ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2014, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2014, 05:59:26 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Only an eejit would be a ref  ;) for example, while I'm enjoying Ballycastle v Dunloy someone will be under pressure........Joking, full respect for referees. Loughgiel, on their Facebook page have asked all fans to refrain from shouting abuse at officials at the players request. Again this is to be respected.

They didn't do a wee smiley face  ;D after it did they or a  ;) ?
its a request from our players to our own supporters from a few weeks ago. Some things were shouted that shouldn't have been. Normal one or two getting carried away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2014, 10:31:09 PM
It happens ;)  Now where did i leave those earplugs??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2014, 10:54:57 PM
So SIE hasn't gone away ya know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 29, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
SIE not for a second did we think Shamrock players were asking other supporters not to shout at refs lol. Joking aside I understand where the players are coming from. More often than not if a team and it's fans get on a refs back it just gets his back up even more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2014, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2014, 10:54:57 PM
So SIE hasn't gone away ya know!
I'm a busy man.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2014, 02:22:45 PM
I hear cloughmills have two or three out for tomorrow's match. If they had a chance they'd have needed everyone playing. Unfortunate for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 06:36:36 PM
Win for Rossa by about 10 or so there. They didn't impress me one bit however. Poor stuff really.
Gorts & glenarrife now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
The town struggling to bring league form to the championship stage.  A man down 6 points down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 07:15:59 PM
Dunloy 16 town 3:05 :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 07:27:19 PM
18 3:05 ft. Town with two red cards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 07:36:42 PM
Just slipping out of corrigan.
Spirited start from gorts but glenarrife putting them away now winning out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:14:02 PM
Shocked at how bad Ballycastle were. They will be kicking themselves after that performance. Fair play Dunloy......A lesser squad of players but fully deserved the win. The scoreline flattered Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
The difference in a league game and a championship game,  IMO loughgiel were in the same position 8/10 years ago. Just couldn't produce what we knew we were capable of in championship match. Could beat anyone in league. Ballycastle are young. And will lift championships in years to come. No doubt.    Now then. It's that time again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:39:42 PM
Think that sums it up SG. Someone has to get a championship out of that squad. Take nothing from Dunloy they stayed cool, playing some lovely hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 30, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
That was really disappointing from us. We overworked the ball just about every time we got it and ran into trouble. Turned down point opportunities regularly to try and work the ball closer.....why?? When we got the ball forward quickly in the second half we looked like scoring every time, but it was too little too late. Saul was just about the only player to do himself justice. Another year gone with nothing to show. Congratulations to Dunloy, certainly the better team on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 08:49:27 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:39:42 PM
Think that sums it up SG. Someone has to get a championship out of that squad. Take nothing from Dunloy they stayed cool, playing some lovely hurling.
youd think they were all late 20s,  it's the exact opposite, it will come.  Kills me to say it ;D. But it will come. Shorty will take some stopping by anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:14:02 PM
Shocked at how bad Ballycastle were. They will be kicking themselves after that performance. Fair play Dunloy......A lesser squad of players but fully deserved the win. The scoreline flattered Ballycastle

Contradiction?

Didnt see where the confidence was coming from for the town!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:54:30 PM
Shorty us a class act. Great attacking player and brought back to sweeper for last ten minutes where he was equally as effective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 08:14:02 PM
Shocked at how bad Ballycastle were. They will be kicking themselves after that performance. Fair play Dunloy......A lesser squad of players but fully deserved the win. The scoreline flattered Ballycastle

Contradiction?

Didnt see where the confidence was coming from for

They have an exceptional attacking 6 which is certainly cause for confidence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 30, 2014, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 30, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
That was really disappointing from us. We overworked the ball just about every time we got it and ran into trouble. Turned down point opportunities regularly to try and work the ball closer.....why?? When we got the ball forward quickly in the second half we looked like scoring every time, but it was too little too late. Saul was just about the only player to do himself justice. Another year gone with nothing to show. Congratulations to Dunloy, certainly the better team on the day.

Saul is class act. Get him on county panel A S AP he was hard to stop tonight
Hard luck to ballycastle
There day will come but they have to make it happen to

Pleasing for us was there was a lot of county players on tonight and my man of the match was powder
He was very solid and cleared a lot of ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 30, 2014, 09:00:56 PM
Yes, a fully deserved victory for us. 18 scores to 8 is where it was at. We were in total control and then the goals started going in. Impressed the way we found our feet again when it went down to 2. Reality is though a better team would be home and hosed by then. Overall though very very happy with the way we played. The boys can be very proud of their performance and will know there's plenty of work ahead of the next game.

Thought you'd a decent enough game MR. Let the game go and used your officials if you didn't see incidents. I never seen any of the red card incidents myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
Agree MR did well in the middle. Good team effort from officials which is good to see. If one missed something then another brought it to attention. Really really hard sport to officiate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 30, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
That was really disappointing from us. We overworked the ball just about every time we got it and ran into trouble. Turned down point opportunities regularly to try and work the ball closer.....why?? When we got the ball forward quickly in the second half we looked like scoring every time, but it was too little too late. Saul was just about the only player to do himself justice. Another year gone with nothing to show. Congratulations to Dunloy, certainly the better team on the day.

Saul was impressive Bonamargy. You guys scored a lot of goals this year and I think they maybe thought they'd get them tonight. But it was criminal dropping ball after ball in when their were points for the taking. When you consider you only lost by 4 I think it was the wrong call. Big Cormac looked off the pace. Is he totally recovered??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on August 30, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Really really disappointing display tonight. Especially our older supposedly experienced players. As SG says they are still young with 9 players in around the 21 mark.But will need to look at how to transfer league to championship. Exact same position as Loughgiel were in before they cracked it and I have faith.Word is McShane and Cassidy have stepped down which begs the question who now???Positives for us were Saul and the two Donnellys in defence. ps. SG any tips on how to do it greatly appreciated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 30, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Really really disappointing display tonight. Especially our older supposedly experienced players. As SG says they are still young with 9 players in around the 21 mark.But will need to look at how to transfer league to championship. Exact same position as Loughgiel were in before they cracked it and I have faith.Word is McShane and Cassidy have stepped down which begs the question who now???Positives for us were Saul and the two Donnellys in defence. ps. SG any tips on how to do it greatly appreciated

What league form? Mangement made the decision when the league split to play weakened teams, lost games and didnt compete at the business end of the year.

Mistake?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.
As nice a fella I've seen play the game, was not on the ball as he traditionally is. Strange game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 30, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Really really disappointing display tonight. Especially our older supposedly experienced players. As SG says they are still young with 9 players in around the 21 mark.But will need to look at how to transfer league to championship. Exact same position as Loughgiel were in before they cracked it and I have faith.Word is McShane and Cassidy have stepped down which begs the question who now???Positives for us were Saul and the two Donnellys in defence. ps. SG any tips on how to do it greatly appreciated

What league form? Mangement made the decision when the league split to play weakened teams, lost games and didnt compete at the business end of the year.

Mistake?

Agree with you on this NAG. What is the point of saving players for Championship if that is how they perform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Well done MR2. Game flowed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 30, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Well done MR2. Game flowed.

He needs to cut his hair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 30, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Well done MR2. Game flowed.

He needs to cut his hair

Was thinking that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 30, 2014, 10:28:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 30, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Well done MR2. Game flowed.

He needs to cut his hair

Was thinking that

You did good this evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.

Only as good as your last game ;) Ballycastle elected to play against the wind when winning the toss, strange I thought.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.

Only as good as your last game ;) Ballycastle elected to play against the wind when winning the toss, strange I thought.

Lads where you watching the game? NMcA played centre back in the first half with a free role one of the midfielders dropped back and picked up Paul Shields, only moved to midfield in the second half when Ballycastle thought Shields had moved to midfield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.

Only as good as your last game ;) Ballycastle elected to play against the wind when winning the toss, strange I thought.

Lads where you watching the game? NMcA played centre back in the first half with a free role one of the midfielders dropped back and picked up Paul Shields, only moved to midfield in the second half when Ballycastle thought Shields had moved to midfield.

Champions coming from the other game ya think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 11:40:16 PM
Very much so.
Don't see anything other than loughgiel with a record 5 in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.

Only as good as your last game ;) Ballycastle elected to play against the wind when winning the toss, strange I thought.

Lads where you watching the game? NMcA played centre back in the first half with a free role one of the midfielders dropped back and picked up Paul Shields, only moved to midfield in the second half when Ballycastle thought Shields had moved to midfield.

Champions coming from the other game ya think?

The St Galls game?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 30, 2014, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 30, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 30, 2014, 10:02:08 PM
I'm a fan of Neal McAuley. He didn't get into the game at all. Midfield is not his position.

Fantastic reader of the game and an artist with stickwork - I'm dumbstruck that ballycastle played him centre field!
McAuley is a half-back - nowhere else.
When you have a player of that quality you play him where you get most out of him.

Nice praise for MR2 - could do with some reffing talent we're not exactly spoiled!

Not a ref myself MR2 but I suggest a key is keeping calm when the game isn't?
So manus refs get caught up in the game - not their job
Well done.

Only as good as your last game ;) Ballycastle elected to play against the wind when winning the toss, strange I thought.

Lads where you watching the game? NMcA played centre back in the first half with a free role one of the midfielders dropped back and picked up Paul Shields, only moved to midfield in the second half when Ballycastle thought Shields had moved to midfield.

Champions coming from the other game ya think?

The St Galls game?  :D

Course  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 09:58:01 AM
Big day today. Bit of travelling to be done. Wins for Carey, St. Paul's, Sarsfields, Naomh Gall and Shamrocks. Then again what do I know? I thought Ballycastle might win it this year. Hope the Dall can put it up to Loughgiel so that we can see a competitive game. It has been a poor year up to now with the lack of effort put in at league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 10:05:23 AM
I wont be at our game. Ill be just getting out of the Newry canal!! Newry triathlon starts around 2pm today! Think we might just have enough to get over the line. Still very fearful of PJ and the goals they get.

I think if we run at them we'll score well or get a lot of frees
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
Watched THEM last week with a full squad -1 defender. 2 O'Connells started up front. Carey scored 6 goals past them. Think yous will have too much for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 10:05:23 AM
I wont be at our game. Ill be just getting out of the Newry canal!! Newry triathlon starts around 2pm today! Think we might just have enough to get over the line. Still very fearful of PJ and the goals they get.

I think if we run at them we'll score well or get a lot of frees

Don't know where you get the energy. Last night would have been enough running for me for a few days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 10:05:23 AM
I wont be at our game. Ill be just getting out of the Newry canal!! Newry triathlon starts around 2pm today! Think we might just have enough to get over the line. Still very fearful of PJ and the goals they get.

I think if we run at them we'll score well or get a lot of frees

Don't know where you get the energy. Last night would have been enough running for me for a few days.

Last one of the year, had the GPS watch on last night and while some people maybe think ya don't do a lot of running, I covered 5.35 miles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 10:41:54 AM
5.35 miles in an hour is some going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 31, 2014, 10:45:18 AM
He put it on before he left the house.
;D

33p a mile! I'll not get much for that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
Sarsfields and st galls to win today. Our game is too tight to call. Last year was an exception not the norm.  Whoever wins won't win by much. If I had to have a bet I'd pick us by two. Only because of experience garnered over the last 5 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
Sarsfields and st galls to win today. Our game is too tight to call. Last year was an exception not the norm.  Whoever wins won't win by much. If I had to have a bet I'd pick us by two. Only because of experience garnered over the last 5 years.

Tough to call the big game, one sure thing the breeze to ruin the match.

Anyone ever been to the new pitch there when the wind hasnt influenced the outcome?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 31, 2014, 01:59:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 12:41:25 PM
Sarsfields and st galls to win today. Our game is too tight to call. Last year was an exception not the norm.  Whoever wins won't win by much. If I had to have a bet I'd pick us by two. Only because of experience garnered over the last 5 years.

Tough to call the big game, one sure thing the breeze to ruin the match.

Anyone ever been to the new pitch there when the wind hasnt influenced the outcome?
the only other place I've experienced stronger winds is in armoy. Fierce breeze there altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
Ahoghill 1 up. Ten minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
Ahoghill 2-12 st galls 0-14. 5 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 03:58:02 PM
Some come back by st galls. Final score: ahoghill 2-12 st galls 1-16.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall. Better team on the day and will be hard to stop. Loughgiel didn't raise their game when needed. The dall looked sharper from the start. If you play with the wind first half you have to take at least an 8 to 10 point lead in at half time. Not at any time did we look like doing that. Benny and scully are massive losses for us and winker not being fit as well.  So again, congrats to the dall.

Yer man christy is going to be some hurler when he matures. Unreal talent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2014, 07:32:41 PM
Amazing result.
Maybe ends any debate over how influential Watson is - if there was ever a sensible debate.
Great era for the shamrocks - admire them fully.
But now is a moment for cushendall - congratulations.
The volunteer cup has a twist in it now!
St galls must confident mr2!
Well done again all the cushendall lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?

Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?

Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall
He'd be wile popular about loughgiel right enough.  ;)

Can't blame him though. Cushendall deserved to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?

Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall

Was it played at a higher tempo than last nights match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?

Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall

Was it played at a higher tempo than last nights match?

Serious. Breeze
Cushendall was I point down or level( can't remember ) playing against it
I don't think the pace was any different TBH

Cushendall looking very sharp
all there county men played well
Young Campbell was MOTM in my view
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
So that's it? No real match reports? WTF!!! come on lads, I missed every game today even my own, haven't heard a peep from ones in the club other than it was daylight robbery by our lads, I'm happy enough as our best player was away on his honeymoon (Karl Stewart) so I'll take a one point win and be in the semi final as there are 2 decent teams not there.

Sarsfields and Cloughmills drew? any match report on that game?

Sorry, north_antrim_hound didn't see that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
So that's it? No real match reports? WTF!!! come on lads, I missed every game today even my own, haven't heard a peep from ones in the club other than it was daylight robbery by our lads, I'm happy enough as our best player was away on his honeymoon (Karl Stewart) so I'll take a one point win and be in the semi final as there are 2 decent teams not there.

Sarsfields and Cloughmills drew? any match report on that game?

Sorry, north_antrim_hound didn't see that
I'm not a journalist. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?

Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall
He'd be wile popular about loughgiel right enough.  ;)

Can't blame him though. Cushendall deserved to win.

I meant he was bias for LG
He was giving you frees for nothing
w**ker should have walked
Cushendall could t buy a free

How many did you score from play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 31, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
Fair play to cdall, wanted it more on the day. Good luck to them! Just a bridge to far for us. Missed a few players and hopefully can enjoy the break and come back and give it a go next year again!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 31, 2014, 09:10:51 PM
Fair play to cdall, wanted it more on the day. Good luck to them! Just a bridge to far for us. Missed a few players and hopefully can enjoy the break and come back and give it a go next year again!!

A winter off will do no harm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 09:26:07 PM
Where do I begin after my travels today. I'll start at the beginning. Cloughmills did all the hurling today but Sarsfields were tough and physical.  Great encounter and hard to call the replay. Cloughmills sub on for 10 seconds before being given a straight red. Sarsfields did not use the extra man well.

St. Galls were shocking. That boy CJ seems to have a serious bad attitude am I right? He never touched the ball and missed free after free. St. Galls cannot play any worse and this might actually work in their favour. I am a big fan of Mark O'Neill as a referee but today he had a poor game and guessed a lot of decisions. He gave St. Galls nothing.

Armoy thoroughly deserved their victory!!!

Loughgiel played none. I have to say I think Benny McCarry is arguably the best forward in the county. He has been a huge loss. Martin Scullion too. Joey Scullion has been poor all season and winker clearly injured. That's a lot of Big players.

Fair play to the Dall, they played great and were fully deserving of the win. Will be an interesting semi final now.

Great to see Shamrock fans on here being gracious. Great champions and great in defeat. Fair play.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 31, 2014, 09:46:29 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 09:26:07 PM
Where do I begin after my travels today. I'll start at the beginning. Cloughmills did all the hurling today but Sarsfields were tough and physical.  Great encounter and hard to call the replay. Cloughmills sub on for 10 seconds before being given a straight red. Sarsfields did not use the extra man well.

St. Galls were shocking. That boy CJ seems to have a serious bad attitude am I right? He never touched the ball and missed free after free. St. Galls cannot play any worse and this might actually work in their favour. I am a big fan of Mark O'Neill as a referee but today he had a poor game and guessed a lot of decisions. He gave St. Galls nothing.

Armoy thoroughly deserved their victory!!!

Loughgiel played none. I have to say I think Benny McCarry is arguably the best forward in the county. He has been a huge loss. Martin Scullion too. Joey Scullion has been poor all season and winker clearly injured. That's a lot of Big players.

Fair play to the Dall, they played great and were fully deserving of the win. Will be an interesting semi final now.

Great to see Shamrock fans on here being gracious. Great champions and great in defeat. Fair play.

Anothet prediction wrong?

Hope you didnt visit the bookies this weekend  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on August 31, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
Hands up from me NAG! Called a few wrong this weekend. I'm sure I wasn't alone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on August 31, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2014, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2014, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Loughgiels mighty run has come to an end

The drive for 5 gone?




Dall the better team
Eoin Elliot should be ashamed of himself
Could not have been more bias
Hard luck to LG and well done to the dall
He'd be wile popular about loughgiel right enough.  ;)

Can't blame him though. Cushendall deserved to win.

I meant he was bias for LG
He was giving you frees for nothing
w**ker should have walked
Cushendall could t buy a free

How many did you score from play

Cush
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:05 PM
So Dunloy Cushendall semi final, nobody predicted that. Cushendall never get going against Dunloy so maybe just maybe Dunloy could get to the final. Which would suit us ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 31, 2014, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 25, 2014, 05:22:36 PM
Some predictions for the craic, what do you think?

Senior Championship:

Ballycastle V Dunloy - Town by 2
Loughgiel V Cushendall - Shams by 7
St Galls V Clooney - Galls by 8
Cloughmills V Sarsfields - Biddies by 1

Intermediate Championship

Rossa V St Endas - Rossa by 20+
St Paul's V Armoy - St Paul's by 3
Carey V Lamh Dhearg - Carey by 6
Glenariff V Gortnamona - Osian by 5

Good job I didn't take my predictions to the bookies.  All the teams left in the Senior championship will have lifted their hopes after Cushendall beat Loughgiel tonight. Interesting that the division 2 teams did reasonably well against the division one teams. Looking forward to seeing the Dunloy V Cushendall Semi. Cushendall thoroughly deserved their win today, Christy McNaughton with both the Dall goals is a class act. How far away from fitness is Shane? On today's display, the Dall are the new favourites.

The intermediate went the way I expected apart from Armoy beating St Paul's. Big wins for Rossa, Glenariff and Carey. I expect the winner of the intermediate will come from those 3. Carey V Rossa and Glenariff V Armoy. Glenariff to win handy to get into the final, the other one will be a point or two either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
I think we can all agree that was a fantastic weekend of club hurling in Antrim.
Our club scene is amongst the most competitive in Ireland - and our county champions never let us down on the national stage.

So forgive me this one point:
Could we not foster this all year round rather than cram it into a few weeks at the behest of the just 15 county hurlers?

Well done to all the winners this weekend - and I look forward to some fascinating ties to come.
St Galls getting out of jail convinces me even more they will make the final.
Cushendall v Dunloy is reminding me of the epic tussles of the 90s - the confidence of winning today leans me towards cushendall.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2014, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 31, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
I think we can all agree that was a fantastic weekend of club hurling in Antrim.
Our club scene is amongst the most competitive in Ireland - and our county champions never let us down on the national stage.

So forgive me this one point:
Could we not foster this all year round rather than cram it into a few weeks at the behest of the just 15 county hurlers?

Well done to all the winners this weekend - and I look forward to some fascinating ties to come.
St Galls getting out of jail convinces me even more they will make the final.
Cushendall v Dunloy is reminding me of the epic tussles of the 90s - the confidence of winning today leans me towards cushendall.

They don't beat Dunloy too often. different game, Christy is a class act for Cushendall, has a fantastic touch on him. Better than Shane I'd say and Shane's a cracker when he gets the right ball. Hmmm pleased we got over the line today, I knew we'd find it tough!

Won't comment much more for fear of getting one of the intermediate games lol. I'd say the big boys will get the remainder of SHC matches ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 01, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Not getting at you here MR2 by any stretch of the imagination, but interested about the first sending off yday? My understanding was both players putting the butt of the hurl into each other waiting on the free?Just wondering what else or what was seen that allowed one to be a straight red and the other a yellow.And then also how does this compare to the Watson incident?similar thing with the butt of the hurl yet a yellow card was awarded?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 01, 2014, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
The difference in a league game and a championship game,  IMO loughgiel were in the same position 8/10 years ago. Just couldn't produce what we knew we were capable of in championship match. Could beat anyone in league. Ballycastle are young. And will lift championships in years to come. No doubt.    Now then. It's that time again!!

Fair play to you SG for your comments; I never thought I would hear a L'giel person be so complementary about Ballycastle!!! But I will disagree with you in that as I analyse the last few years I don't see Ballycastle like L'giel of 10 years ago. L'giel were at least getting to finals Ballycastle aren't. Thought there was too much misplaced optimism around Ballycastle this year. Very inconsistent in the league and the management still didn't know what the best team is. Plus discipline is still a problem; I make it 4 sending offs in championship defeats in the last 4 years.

As for L'giel Benny McCarry was a hugh loss to them this year and after all the miles on the clock, which the results in the league seemed to indicate, they weren't the same force. However im sure they will be back strong in 2015. Great champions but glad to see the back of them all the same  ;) 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 01, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Not getting at you here MR2 by any stretch of the imagination, but interested about the first sending off yday? My understanding was both players putting the butt of the hurl into each other waiting on the free?Just wondering what else or what was seen that allowed one to be a straight red and the other a yellow.And then also how does this compare to the Watson incident?similar thing with the butt of the hurl yet a yellow card was awarded?

Linesman seen the challenge while i was consultating with the umpires. Number 4 from ballycastle was seen clearly to strike dunloy forward after they tussled. Castle man didnt complain in fairness and neutrals who saw it all said same. Dunloy lad booked for his minor challenge wish id have seen it but Thats what the other officials are there for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 12:15:15 AM
Not really. These things Dont happen over night. Quarter final is good and my club in semi so doing the maths i reckon job done at senior. What ya think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Eamon could get the job id say. As for my musings on here hindering me, there is nowt really in a  lot i say. Must people will actually not read posts but go by hearsay.

I defend a lot of what the referees do. Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 01, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.

Anyone who's ever refereed a game at any level will understand how difficult it is to see every infraction during a game. You not only need eyes in the back of your head, you need little sentinel robot eyes to give a side on perspective as well to see every stick held or arm held. In the Dunloy game I thought MR used his officials more than Ive seen many's a referee do. I see that as a positive trait rather than a negative one. Do some referees feel they need to show that they see everything and don't need assistance? I don't know.

I think the dangerous one is when a new referee gets too much smoke blown up his 4$$ the old ego kicks in and he then subconsciously wants to become part of the performance. Maybe they all go through that phase. Not long for you now MR. :)

The numbers of hurling referees is a real concern at the minute. There's been a serious amount of juvenile games played without official referees. No referee's available (been this way for years) for any U12 & U14 league games plus many U16 & 18 with no shows. In our SW football leagues ALL games from U12 up have official referees. For a game like hurling its not on. The solution though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 01, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.

Anyone who's ever refereed a game at any level will understand how difficult it is to see every infraction during a game. You not only need eyes in the back of your head, you need little sentinel robot eyes to give a side on perspective as well to see every stick held or arm held. In the Dunloy game I thought MR used his officials more than Ive seen many's a referee do. I see that as a positive trait rather than a negative one. Do some referees feel they need to show that they see everything and don't need assistance? I don't know.

I think the dangerous one is when a new referee gets too much smoke blown up his 4$$ the old ego kicks in and he then subconsciously wants to become part of the performance. Maybe they all go through that phase. Not long for you now MR. :)

The numbers of hurling referees is a real concern at the minute. There's been a serious amount of juvenile games played without official referees. No referee's available (been this way for years) for any U12 & U14 league games plus many U16 & 18 with no shows. In our SW football leagues ALL games from U12 up have official referees. For a game like hurling its not on. The solution though?

Well this is also a problem, in terms of people getting above their station, it happens. I must say though it doesn't help the referee when silly accusations are thrown at them, they are only human and when someone calls you a cheat, be he a player/manager/supporter it is fecking annoying. I must say though that the discipline towards the referee by the Dunloy lads was fantastic and needs to be commended. Neal McAuley was excellent throughout the game and talked sense. It's not like rugby where the referee can call the two captains but it's something I've done, I've also spoke to both teams after a fracas. Whether this works or not I'm not sure. But I do know that the majority of referees want an incident free game with handshakes from both losers and winners.

Osin McConville wrote about it lately I'll throw up the link, decent read
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 01, 2014, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 01, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.

Anyone who's ever refereed a game at any level will understand how difficult it is to see every infraction during a game. You not only need eyes in the back of your head, you need little sentinel robot eyes to give a side on perspective as well to see every stick held or arm held. In the Dunloy game I thought MR used his officials more than Ive seen many's a referee do. I see that as a positive trait rather than a negative one. Do some referees feel they need to show that they see everything and don't need assistance? I don't know.

I think the dangerous one is when a new referee gets too much smoke blown up his 4$$ the old ego kicks in and he then subconsciously wants to become part of the performance. Maybe they all go through that phase. Not long for you now MR. :)

The numbers of hurling referees is a real concern at the minute. There's been a serious amount of juvenile games played without official referees. No referee's available (been this way for years) for any U12 & U14 league games plus many U16 & 18 with no shows. In our SW football leagues ALL games from U12 up have official referees. For a game like hurling its not on. The solution though?

I would say the underage ref problem is nationwide
Just like the senior one, it's a thankless job
But the contrast in the to ref performances in the semis this weekend was night and day
Our match he used his officials and administered cards on the info he was given
I don't think ballycastle would have any complaints never mind dunloy
Last nights performance was a joke, very harsh on dall and seemed to be trying to keep LG in the match
Chickened out on the watson incident and he always wants to be the center of attention
Maybe not the best thing to come on here and lambast a man giving up his own time but the players put in a lot of effort the whole year for days like yesterday and while they don't deserve perfection they should at least get a neutral input
Just like dunloy and ballycastle got
Me and mr2 have had our run ins on here in the past and will in the future but credit where it's due
And the other performance deserves criticism when it's due as well

There seems to be some better refs coming through though, the sooner they get the big matches the better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 01, 2014, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 01, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.

Anyone who's ever refereed a game at any level will understand how difficult it is to see every infraction during a game. You not only need eyes in the back of your head, you need little sentinel robot eyes to give a side on perspective as well to see every stick held or arm held. In the Dunloy game I thought MR used his officials more than Ive seen many's a referee do. I see that as a positive trait rather than a negative one. Do some referees feel they need to show that they see everything and don't need assistance? I don't know.

I think the dangerous one is when a new referee gets too much smoke blown up his 4$$ the old ego kicks in and he then subconsciously wants to become part of the performance. Maybe they all go through that phase. Not long for you now MR. :)

The numbers of hurling referees is a real concern at the minute. There's been a serious amount of juvenile games played without official referees. No referee's available (been this way for years) for any U12 & U14 league games plus many U16 & 18 with no shows. In our SW football leagues ALL games from U12 up have official referees. For a game like hurling its not on. The solution though?

I would say the underage ref problem is nationwide
Just like the senior one, it's a thankless job
But the contrast in the to ref performances in the semis this weekend was night and day
Our match he used his officials and administered cards on the info he was given
I don't think ballycastle would have any complaints never mind dunloy
Last nights performance was a joke, very harsh on dall and seemed to be trying to keep LG in the match
Chickened out on the watson incident and he always wants to be the center of attention
Maybe not the best thing to come on here and lambast a man giving up his own time but the players put in a lot of effort the whole year for days like yesterday and while they don't deserve perfection they should at least get a neutral input
Just like dunloy and ballycastle got
Me and mr2 have had our run ins on here in the past and will in the future but credit where it's due
And the other performance deserves criticism when it's due as well

There seems to be some better refs coming through though, the sooner they get the big matches the better

Look just like a player we are only one game away from having a shitter, Owen has refereed a lot of games that I've played in and managed, I like his style and I can talk to him. I've never really had any issues with him. Anytime his name came up to referee my club I know how the game will be refereed. I can't for the life of me see why a referee would let his integrity be called into question when so many people are watching a game and no doubt being assessed also.

Anyways back to the run in, I got finally a match report on our game, we were complete shite!! handling issues, shot selection tackling and stole the game. This would need to be fixed pretty soon, our best players in the past are struggling, hopefully with Stewarty back from hols we will have that drive back that he brings to the team. If not I fear for a serious hiding come the semi final never mind senior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 01, 2014, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 01, 2014, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 01, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 07:27:04 AM
Being a player i would have complained to referees during play. I fully understand their frustrations when trying to control games while trying to let it 'flow' that bit is down to how the players attitude is on the day.

Anyone who's ever refereed a game at any level will understand how difficult it is to see every infraction during a game. You not only need eyes in the back of your head, you need little sentinel robot eyes to give a side on perspective as well to see every stick held or arm held. In the Dunloy game I thought MR used his officials more than Ive seen many's a referee do. I see that as a positive trait rather than a negative one. Do some referees feel they need to show that they see everything and don't need assistance? I don't know.

I think the dangerous one is when a new referee gets too much smoke blown up his 4$$ the old ego kicks in and he then subconsciously wants to become part of the performance. Maybe they all go through that phase. Not long for you now MR. :)

The numbers of hurling referees is a real concern at the minute. There's been a serious amount of juvenile games played without official referees. No referee's available (been this way for years) for any U12 & U14 league games plus many U16 & 18 with no shows. In our SW football leagues ALL games from U12 up have official referees. For a game like hurling its not on. The solution though?

I would say the underage ref problem is nationwide
Just like the senior one, it's a thankless job
But the contrast in the to ref performances in the semis this weekend was night and day
Our match he used his officials and administered cards on the info he was given
I don't think ballycastle would have any complaints never mind dunloy
Last nights performance was a joke, very harsh on dall and seemed to be trying to keep LG in the match
Chickened out on the watson incident and he always wants to be the center of attention
Maybe not the best thing to come on here and lambast a man giving up his own time but the players put in a lot of effort the whole year for days like yesterday and while they don't deserve perfection they should at least get a neutral input
Just like dunloy and ballycastle got
Me and mr2 have had our run ins on here in the past and will in the future but credit where it's due
And the other performance deserves criticism when it's due as well

There seems to be some better refs coming through though, the sooner they get the big matches the better

100% correct.

Thats said I do think Elliot has been light years ahead of Duffy et al.

Now Mr2 don't you go doing your annual playing down of Naomh Gall - I'm expecting a decent showing in a tighter than expected final and nothing less!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
No not playing us down our belittling Clooney Gaels who from what I gathered were great only for the last 5 minutes to lose the match. We should be (with the players we have) hammering teams like Clooney Gaels but we continue to find ourselves in a battle!! I've said it before I love the way the Gaels approach a match simple plan, work like feck to get the ball into their best players up front, two man forward line and PJ got 2 goals, not rocket science but it works for them. I hope they are building on their current success in hurling and that they will be challenging again next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Just on the debate on the refs, I would like to know what OE booked LW for, was it attempted striking with the hurl, striking with the hurl or interference with the helmet/faceguard?

To me I would have thought all of these were Red Card offences, I dont think there will be a clearer one missed all year.

Just would be curious as to why.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 01, 2014, 12:17:50 PM
My tuppence worth from the wknd:

Ballycastle were desperate on Saturday and Dunloy not overly impressive either in a very poor game of hurling. Sunday saw Lgiel do the same as ballycastle the night before. They didn't turn up and didn't appear to have any game plan either. Cushendall deserve all the plaudits, they were excellent throughout. McManus perhaps needs to improve on the scores from play, hit a lot of wides which were easy scores by his standards, but that didn't cost them in the end.

Intermediate looks to be a done deal for a Rossa Glenarife final. That's what we all expected and should be a good battle that one.

Has anyone any idea of potential double headers/venues for upcoming semis in junior/intermed/senior matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
No not playing us down our belittling Clooney Gaels who from what I gathered were great only for the last 5 minutes to lose the match. We should be (with the players we have) hammering teams like Clooney Gaels but we continue to find ourselves in a battle!! I've said it before I love the way the Gaels approach a match simple plan, work like feck to get the ball into their best players up front, two man forward line and PJ got 2 goals, not rocket science but it works for them. I hope they are building on their current success in hurling and that they will be challenging again next year

Steady on there MR2 It's been a long time from you were in division 1. The fact you have got there and are close to staying up should be respected. You were in the same division as Gaels last year in what is a very competitive division, so you should definitely not be hammering teams 'like that'. You have been on here recently saying how close that game would be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 01, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Sarsfields v cloughmills replay set for 8pm wednesday night in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 06:05:53 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 01, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Sarsfields v cloughmills replay set for 8pm wednesday night in Ballycastle.

Hard one to call!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 01, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
Think the timing and location tip it towards cloughmills tbh. Just hope it doesn't go to extra time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 01, 2014, 06:00:55 PM
Sarsfields v cloughmills replay set for 8pm wednesday night in Ballycastle.

Floodlights?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 01, 2014, 07:16:31 PM
Enough of a dangling carrot there for both teams...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 01, 2014, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 01, 2014, 07:16:31 PM
Enough of a dangling carrot there for both teams...

I thought st galls had the semi all wrapped up already? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
No not playing us down our belittling Clooney Gaels who from what I gathered were great only for the last 5 minutes to lose the match. We should be (with the players we have) hammering teams like Clooney Gaels but we continue to find ourselves in a battle!! I've said it before I love the way the Gaels approach a match simple plan, work like feck to get the ball into their best players up front, two man forward line and PJ got 2 goals, not rocket science but it works for them. I hope they are building on their current success in hurling and that they will be challenging again next year

Steady on there MR2 It's been a long time from you were in division 1. The fact you have got there and are close to staying up should be respected. You were in the same division as Gaels last year in what is a very competitive division, so you should definitely not be hammering teams 'like that'. You have been on here recently saying how close that game would be.

My point is with the grade of hurlers we have had this past few years, and in the recent past beat Dunloy over 2 games and should have beaten Cushendall in the next game, we should be beating Clooney by more, I said I wasn't disrespecting them at all, I've prasied them many many times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.

Who had the man sent off in that game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 01, 2014, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.

Who had the man sent off in that game?

Cloughmills. Small enough squad already at best of times and with a few missing.

Reckon Sarsfields here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.

Who had the man sent off in that game?

That's a silly commennt MR2 cloughlmills had the man sent off. A sub who came on for 10 seconds. 1 silly stroke does not mean you can tar the whole team as indisciplined. Mark O'Neill had a poor game so by your logic all referees are poor????? Sarsfields gave away free after free. We're you there by the way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 01, 2014, 09:56:57 PM
Keep your hair on Sylvie  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 01, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.

Who had the man sent off in that game?

That's a silly commennt MR2 cloughlmills had the man sent off. A sub who came on for 10 seconds. 1 silly stroke does not mean you can tar the whole team as indisciplined. Mark O'Neill had a poor game so by your logic all referees are poor????? Sarsfields gave away free after free. We're you there by the way?

Read again - he said more disciplined!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
Cloughmills are more disciplined and play better hurling. Sarsfields are physical and hard to play against. Travelling to Ballycastle on a Wednesday night might not suit them. Think your right. I'll go Cloughmills this time.

Who had the man sent off in that game?

That's a silly commennt MR2 cloughlmills had the man sent off. A sub who came on for 10 seconds. 1 silly stroke does not mean you can tar the whole team as indisciplined. Mark O'Neill had a poor game so by your logic all referees are poor????? Sarsfields gave away free after free. We're you there by the way?

At no point did I tar anybody I was being funny (left out smiley), you said they were more disciplined but had a man sent of for wildly pulling on a Sarsfields man go figure!! Look I've played senior against Sarsfields for past 26 years you don't have to tell me about Sarsfields and how they play. Mark O'Neill from what I was told did really well, had to listen to some slabbering and dished out a card for it. A very good referee in my opinion

I wasn't there (I stated that a couple of times) but well informed by a good mate who wouldn't be biased but a great clubman

I'd say Cloughmills will win the replay. 15 on 15 (providing they can keep disciplined  ;D) and up in Ballycastle should be enough, Sarsfields I think have a few injuries going into the game also.

To keep young Daniel down to 2 points is very good, he's a wee handful when on his game. I said also that if Sarsfields have their best 15 out they'd win (which may not be the case). Should be a difficult game as replays can after some afters in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
I agree Mark is a good referee and a nice guy, met him once or twice. I feel he guessed several decisions where he should have admitted he didn't see them. That is actually why (think it was Gallagher) got booked, out of pure frustration at bad decisions. A St. Galls player shipped a big elbow to the head (no.13) and was injured for a few minutes. Mark said he fell. Again better saying he didn't see it. But listen I'm doing the one thing I don't like doing - criticizing people. It can be a frustrating game.

MR2 let me make one last point which is why I got frustrated. I don't like people criticizing their own clubmates. My own club is rife with it. I think it is destructive. I'm sure as a ref (a good one at that) you are aware of idiots and their opinions (and I include myself in that)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
Who did i give off to in my club? Only telling you what i was told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 01, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
No not playing us down our belittling Clooney Gaels who from what I gathered were great only for the last 5 minutes to lose the match. We should be (with the players we have) hammering teams like Clooney Gaels but we continue to find ourselves in a battle!! I've said it before I love the way the Gaels approach a match simple plan, work like feck to get the ball into their best players up front, two man forward line and PJ got 2 goals, not rocket science but it works for them. I hope they are building on their current success in hurling and that they will be challenging again next year

Steady on there MR2 It's been a long time from you were in division 1. The fact you have got there and are close to staying up should be respected. You were in the same division as Gaels last year in what is a very competitive division, so you should definitely not be hammering teams 'like that'. You have been on here recently saying how close that game would be.

My point is with the grade of hurlers we have had this past few years, and in the recent past beat Dunloy over 2 games and should have beaten Cushendall in the next game, we should be beating Clooney by more, I said I wasn't disrespecting them at all, I've prasied them many many times

You're not being complimentary. I would argue that Clooney Gaels have a better attack than yourselves. I've seen you twice this year and on both occasions I was very impressed with your defence but you have little to nothing up front. Need forwards to win games.

Where was that boy Burke yesterday? Is he not playing. I saw him Mark one of the best players in the county and he was impressive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
must admit i was quietly happy with ourselves on saturday. the 3 goals aside we were never in any trouble. i dont think we got out of 3rd gear the whole match.

game as a whole was dead flat for both teams. dont understand ballycastles team line up at all? the best centre half in antrim in midfield? a full back who hasnt touched leather in 2 years in centre half? no sense at all.

we can play much better than that in the semi final but im quiet happy not being the favs for this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 02, 2014, 09:15:02 AM
Could the Sars replay not have been played this weekend? I know its all football championship games on but with neither of the 2 teams involved in the football championships i couldn't see there being any problems, or is there another reason for this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
must admit i was quietly happy with ourselves on saturday. the 3 goals aside we were never in any trouble. i dont think we got out of 3rd gear the whole match.

game as a whole was dead flat for both teams. dont understand ballycastles team line up at all? the best centre half in antrim in midfield? a full back who hasnt touched leather in 2 years in centre half? no sense at all.

we can play much better than that in the semi final but im quiet happy not being the favs for this game.

Yep can't argue with that, Your bench may not be as strong as Cushendall, but your best 15 will certainly give them a game. Cushendall now need to prepare for a different game. Their whole season would have been leading up to that Loughgiel game, so getting prepared for the next game will be key. Should be a cracker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 02, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 02, 2014, 09:15:02 AM
Could the Sars replay not have been played this weekend? I know its all football championship games on but with neither of the 2 teams involved in the football championships i couldn't see there being any problems, or is there another reason for this?

No, just the usual lack of foresight and planning associated with this county. Would a  loughiel and Cushendall replay been forced to play on Wednesday night in ballycastle? The match was on the county website for saturday afternoon yesterday,  don't know why it was changed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
Country teams have played championship midweek up in Casement under floodlights.
We've played StGalls & Loughgiel on Wed nights in recent years.

I would say officials being in Dublin for the AI is the reason Saturday isn't a flyer (not saying its right though)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
must admit i was quietly happy with ourselves on saturday. the 3 goals aside we were never in any trouble. i dont think we got out of 3rd gear the whole match.

game as a whole was dead flat for both teams. dont understand ballycastles team line up at all? the best centre half in antrim in midfield? a full back who hasnt touched leather in 2 years in centre half? no sense at all.

we can play much better than that in the semi final but im quiet happy not being the favs for this game.

Yep can't argue with that, Your bench may not be as strong as Cushendall, but your best 15 will certainly give them a game. Cushendall now need to prepare for a different game. Their whole season would have been leading up to that Loughgiel game, so getting prepared for the next game will be key. Should be a cracker

ive been thinking that myself, this game will have been a big push for them mentally. it was the same last year against ourselves. we didnt play well and shot bad wides and ended up losing it. Cushendall went to the final and lost. i maintained that beating us was what they pushed hard for that season. Could it be the same this year in beating loughgiel? who know.

loughgiel havent been playing well this year. Eddie mc closkey has been their stand out player all year and without him on sunday past the score would of been worse. a long winter off and possibly some retirements in their team needed.

Cushendalls young team look like they could dominate for a few years now. very impressed with them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2014, 01:25:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
must admit i was quietly happy with ourselves on saturday. the 3 goals aside we were never in any trouble. i dont think we got out of 3rd gear the whole match.

game as a whole was dead flat for both teams. dont understand ballycastles team line up at all? the best centre half in antrim in midfield? a full back who hasnt touched leather in 2 years in centre half? no sense at all.

we can play much better than that in the semi final but im quiet happy not being the favs for this game.

Yep can't argue with that, Your bench may not be as strong as Cushendall, but your best 15 will certainly give them a game. Cushendall now need to prepare for a different game. Their whole season would have been leading up to that Loughgiel game, so getting prepared for the next game will be key. Should be a cracker

ive been thinking that myself, this game will have been a big push for them mentally. it was the same last year against ourselves. we didnt play well and shot bad wides and ended up losing it. Cushendall went to the final and lost. i maintained that beating us was what they pushed hard for that season. Could it be the same this year in beating loughgiel? who know.

loughgiel havent been playing well this year. Eddie mc closkey has been their stand out player all year and without him on sunday past the score would of been worse. a long winter off and possibly some retirements in their team needed.

Cushendalls young team look like they could dominate for a few years now. very impressed with them

They have a great mix of older players, Karl, seasoned campaigners Delargy, Garrfin NMcM and these young lads coming through, Campbell Christy and others. They won't be bullied with the experienced heads about which is brilliant to have. You'll have your work cut for ya's come this match.

BTW, you's also have similar team make up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I can't see any reasoning as to why Cloughmills and Sarsfields are being asked to play their championship quarter final at our pitch under floodlights. Our lights wouldn't be at the standard that Casement Park (remember that place?) would have been. They are ok for football, or a pre season hurling friendly at best. Why can they not play the game on Saturday?  The most important games (championship) in all our clubs calendar should be treated with a bit more respect! Handy for me to see the game all the same lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I can't see any reasoning as to why Cloughmills and Sarsfields are being asked to play their championship quarter final at our pitch under floodlights. Our lights wouldn't be at the standard that Casement Park (remember that place?) would have been. They are ok for football, or a pre season hurling friendly at best. Why can they not play the game on Saturday?  The most important games (championship) in all our clubs calendar should be treated with a bit more respect! Handy for me to see the game all the same lol.

Agreed, think it's a bit tough on them but it will be the same for both (equally hampered), hopefully they will have had their carrots, why was there no extra time? All Junior and intermediate games could go to extra time but not senior. Cloughmills to win this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I can't see any reasoning as to why Cloughmills and Sarsfields are being asked to play their championship quarter final at our pitch under floodlights. Our lights wouldn't be at the standard that Casement Park (remember that place?) would have been. They are ok for football, or a pre season hurling friendly at best. Why can they not play the game on Saturday?  The most important games (championship) in all our clubs calendar should be treated with a bit more respect! Handy for me to see the game all the same lol.

Agreed, think it's a bit tough on them but it will be the same for both (equally hampered), hopefully they will have had their carrots, why was there no extra time? All Junior and intermediate games could go to extra time but not senior. Cloughmills to win this

Sure let's play it indoor, or in the street.
It'll be the same for both after all.

I raised this a few posts back - it is nothing short of scandalous and represents the utter contempt the club scene is treated with. Yet again.

County takes up all year so one club draw and look at the chaos or shoddy administration - despite the fact this is where the vast majority of Gaels compete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I can't see any reasoning as to why Cloughmills and Sarsfields are being asked to play their championship quarter final at our pitch under floodlights. Our lights wouldn't be at the standard that Casement Park (remember that place?) would have been. They are ok for football, or a pre season hurling friendly at best. Why can they not play the game on Saturday?  The most important games (championship) in all our clubs calendar should be treated with a bit more respect! Handy for me to see the game all the same lol.

Agreed, think it's a bit tough on them but it will be the same for both (equally hampered), hopefully they will have had their carrots, why was there no extra time? All Junior and intermediate games could go to extra time but not senior. Cloughmills to win this

Sure let's play it indoor, or in the street.
It'll be the same for both after all.

Now you're being silly, the street lights aren't great ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
Sure the DUP are for turning them off!
Must be all the westies running their houses off them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
Sure the DUP are for turning them off!
Must be all the westies running their houses off them!

So has there been any more development with Casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2014, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 02, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
Sure the DUP are for turning them off!
Must be all the westies running their houses off them!

So has there been any more development with Casement?

Social club issue sorted - but still residents issue to be dealt with?
Hardstation will surely know better?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2014, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 02, 2014, 08:31:12 PM
I can't see any reasoning as to why Cloughmills and Sarsfields are being asked to play their championship quarter final at our pitch under floodlights. Our lights wouldn't be at the standard that Casement Park (remember that place?) would have been. They are ok for football, or a pre season hurling friendly at best. Why can they not play the game on Saturday?  The most important games (championship) in all our clubs calendar should be treated with a bit more respect! Handy for me to see the game all the same lol.

Surely to god there's a standard from Croke Park on the quality of floodlighting required to hold a competitive game, no?

Playing a game in poor lighting can turn the game into a bit of a lottery with someone losing sight of the ball in the floodlights or other.

Years ago I remember playing a winter friendly up in Glenullin who at that time had as good a set of floodlights going and you could see lads struggling for position under a dropping ball coming out of the sky.

Madness if the lights are as Bonamargy suggests!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 03, 2014, 09:32:33 AM
Have to agree with Bonamargy, ive trained a few times under Ballycastles floodlights and while they are very good for that, i certainly wouldn't want to play a very important championship match under them.

What is wrong with Saturday, the Minor Final is set for Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 03, 2014, 11:51:10 AM
Antrim Championship regulations state: " Any replays will be played within four days following the drawn game or as directed by Competitions Control Committee."

Not sure how that would have panned out had Dunloy and Ballycastle finished level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Sarsfields are playing on Saturday in ballymena . I heard this on Monday night so chill boys and girls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on September 03, 2014, 11:51:10 AM
Antrim Championship regulations state: " Any replays will be played within four days following the drawn game or as directed by Competitions Control Committee."

Not sure how that would have panned out had Dunloy and Ballycastle finished level.

This is were it becomes a nightmare, in relation to Casement!! It was great the midweek championship games under lights in Casement. Was so easy to get the Drawn games out of the way. Us and Dunloy had to do that and I refereed a minor Championship under lights and it was grand.


Quote from: manballandall on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Sarsfields are playing on Saturday in ballymena . I heard this on Monday night so chill boys and girls
The sooner we get something sorted the better

Quote from: manballandall on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Sarsfields are playing on Saturday in ballymena . I heard this on Monday night so chill boys and girls

Source?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 03, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 03, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Sarsfields are playing on Saturday in ballymena . I heard this on Monday night so chill boys and girls

Not as far as I am aware. And not according to our county website. Have a look at the cover page

http://antrim.gaa.ie/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 03, 2014, 12:49:13 PM
There is a lot of confusion. It appears on the fixtures page as this Saturday. It was even on the county's front page on Monday Stating Saturday @ Ballymena. However it is tonight in Ballycastle. Ballycastle Club reps were at a county meeting on Monday night and this was confirmed. Definitely tonight! Bit of a mess by the county board with regards to the website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 03, 2014, 12:56:07 PM
Fair play to the boys taking the money at the gates at championship games. Paid for 3 adults at Ballymena on Sunday then went to pay for 3 again at Ballycastle (same guy)and he only took a fiver off me. Nice gesture I thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 03, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 03, 2014, 12:56:07 PM
Fair play to the boys taking the money at the gates at championship games. Paid for 3 adults at Ballymena on Sunday then went to pay for 3 again at Ballycastle (same guy)and he only took a fiver off me. Nice gesture I thought.
less said the better about that for us all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 03, 2014, 02:48:24 PM
LOL ........Next round, I think is £6 or £8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 03, 2014, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 03, 2014, 02:48:24 PM
LOL ........Next round, I think is £6 or £8

Sarsfields 1-19 biddies 2-14. Happy days!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2014, 10:18:25 PM
Semi final at hannahstown?
Will the clubs themselves have an input?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Not sure, I think so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Well usually after 15 minutes it would be a red. We'll hopefully win a close game

Not sure, I think so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 03, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Yep, straight red. Late pull to the head. Deserved red. Very strange atmosphere at the game. County couldn't even send down two linesmen to a Senior championship match. Cloughmills threw it away again. Should have won both games, they will be kicking themselves tonight, were 5 points up halfway through the second half but then couldn't win a puckout. Sarsfields had a lot of chances of points in the last 15 minutes and hit a lot of wides, but got there in the end in injury time. Was a competitive game, Sarsfields did well to win having played 45 minutes a man short.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Straight red. Dirty pull.

Took a run over to it. Given I answered your question I've two of my own.

1. Can a 30 yard free ever become a penalty? Sars man went to hit shot for goal quickly, CMills man stepped across. Moved in for a penalty. They scored the rebound.

2. Quick puck out to a player in midfield who had broken a hurl in last phase of play and was running to sideline to get hurl. He had half a stick in hand. He caught, took 2/3 steps and laid off to teammate. Blown up, free given, point. If you have half a stick is that not technically a stick? Would say 75% of players and refs don't actually know exactly what rule is on playing with no stick, handpassing off if you'd dropped it etc.

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 03, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Yep, straight red. Late pull to the head. Deserved red. Very strange atmosphere at the game. County couldn't even send down two linesmen to a Senior championship match. Cloughmills threw it away again. Should have won both games, they will be kicking themselves tonight, were 5 points up halfway through the second half but then couldn't win a puckout. Sarsfields had a lot of chances of points in the last 15 minutes and hit a lot of wides, but got there in the end in injury time. Was a competitive game, Sarsfields did well to win having played 45 minutes a man short.

Pretty much agree with all points. CMills had the winning of both games.

Agree re linesmen - at the very least Ballycastle should have been asked (not Ballycastle fault) to provide linesman. One man in CMills top and one in a Sarsfields top. Needless to say the old GAA beauty of "if it's at our side and there is a shred of doubt it's our ball". Not great in senior championship.

In fairness to both teams while lights didn't look great there wasn't much to suggest they had a huge impact. No real dropped catches/fumbles etc.

Daniel McKernan is a Rolls Royce of a wee player - floats along the ground. Shame he wasn't just a wee bit bulkier.

Mickey Devlin for CMills has the makings of a very good player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 03, 2014, 11:20:44 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 03, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?


Yep, straight red. Late pull to the head. Deserved red. Very strange atmosphere at the game. County couldn't even send down two linesmen to a Senior championship match. Cloughmills threw it away again. Should have won both games, they will be kicking themselves tonight, were 5 points up halfway through the second half but then couldn't win a puckout. Sarsfields had a lot of chances of points in the last 15 minutes and hit a lot of wides, but got there in the end in injury time. Was a competitive game, Sarsfields did well to win having played 45 minutes a man short.

Pretty much agree with all points. CMills had the winning of both games.

Agree re linesmen - at the very least Ballycastle should have been asked (not Ballycastle fault) to provide linesman. One man in CMills top and one in a Sarsfields top. Needless to say the old GAA beauty of "if it's at our side and there is a shred of doubt it's our ball". Not great in senior championship.

In fairness to both teams while lights didn't look great there wasn't much to suggest they had a huge impact. No real dropped catches/fumbles etc.

Daniel McKernan is a Rolls Royce of a wee player - floats along the ground. Shame he wasn't just a wee bit bulkier.

Mickey Devlin for CMills has the makings of a very good player.

It was a definite red,  it was inevitable as soon as he switched over with jingo. Young daniel is a cracker and is blessed with a good temperament as well which is a bonus. Great for us to get the win and hopefully we will have a few lads back from hols etc and a few injuries cleared up for the semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?

Straight red. Dirty pull.

Took a run over to it. Given I answered your question I've two of my own.

1. Can a 30 yard free ever become a penalty? Sars man went to hit shot for goal quickly, CMills man stepped across. Moved in for a penalty. They scored the rebound.

2. Quick puck out to a player in midfield who had broken a hurl in last phase of play and was running to sideline to get hurl. He had half a stick in hand. He caught, took 2/3 steps and laid off to teammate. Blown up, free given, point. If you have half a stick is that not technically a stick? Would say 75% of players and refs don't actually know exactly what rule is on playing with no stick, handpassing off if you'd dropped it etc.

Cheers

Penalty is when you foul the man in the, well penalty area, foul the ball 21 yard free and if you move it forward for dissent it's still a 21 yard free, anybody can play without a stick stupid rule/nonrule as such
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 12:14:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?



Straight red. Dirty pull.

Took a run over to it. Given I answered your question I've two of my own.

1. Can a 30 yard free ever become a penalty? Sars man went to hit shot for goal quickly, CMills man stepped across. Moved in for a penalty. They scored the rebound.

2. Quick puck out to a player in midfield who had broken a hurl in last phase of play and was running to sideline to get hurl. He had half a stick in hand. He caught, took 2/3 steps and laid off to teammate. Blown up, free given, point. If you have half a stick is that not technically a stick? Would say 75% of players and refs don't actually know exactly what rule is on playing with no stick, handpassing off if you'd dropped it etc.

Cheers

Penalty is when you foul the man in the, well penalty area, foul the ball 21 yard free and if you move it forward for dissent it's still a 21 yard free, anybody can play without a stick stupid rule/nonrule as such

Cheers - both decisions by Jackie were wrong therefore cost CMills 1-1. A bit of salt in their wounds I would say. The penalty was a pretty game-changing moment as got them some momentum as despite CMills getting a fee points after it they never properly shook Sarsfields off.
Momentum is a mad thing in hurling - seriously hard to break.

Was McKenna injured Gladiator - started very well but faded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.

Cloughmills player ran in and tackled McKernan when he was striking the free from 25 yards. Jackie booked the Cloughmills player and awarded a penalty. Sarsfields scored their goal from the rebound.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 04, 2014, 10:55:15 AM
That's unusual.  Though I couldn't claim to know the rules inside out I can't ever recall a penalty being given for an infraction outside the box! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.

Cloughmills player ran in and tackled McKernan when he was striking the free from 25 yards. Jackie booked the Cloughmills player and awarded a penalty. Sarsfields scored their goal from the rebound.

So is this adjudged to be a separate infringement and hence the penalty award?
But surely even this wasnt within the square?
I would have though book the guy and move to a more advantageous position?
Did Cloughmills not go crazy at the time! Seems a strange one to me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 04, 2014, 12:10:04 PM
Not been on here in a while but congrats to Cushendall. Best team won on the day.

Our lads had a good run and will hopefully be back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 04, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
Sounds like Cloughmills got a raw deal last night, surely a referee should be fully versed on all the rules of the game? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
St galls v sarsfields in corrigan sat week @6pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
Both semi finals should be close, competitive games. Will be a good weekend of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Anyone actually think Sars will give St Galls a game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:50:02 PM
NAG, they definitely will. There is nothing to suggest this will be one sided. Both at a similar league standing. Both beat similar opposition in the quarter final. If anything St. Galls are lucky to be there. Sarsfields are there on merit. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 04, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Anyone actually think Sars will give St Galls a game?

Yip, baton down the hatches...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 12:53:59 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 04, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Anyone actually think Sars will give St Galls a game?

Yip, baton down the hatches...

Fair enough, I would have thought that once Galls got that game over them and got KS back that they would be a lot stronger.
From seeing them both during the year I still think that Galls would be good favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
Galls will win by at least 4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 04, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Never much between the sides and will all boil down to who takes their chances.
Sarsfields don't have a strong bench so with a straight red last night and mc Kenna carrying an injury they might struggle. However I watched sarsfields draw with St. John's a few weeks back and was impressed with them, should have won and this against a St. John's team who st galls handy a week before . This will go down to the wire and could be nasty :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 04, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 12:14:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 03, 2014, 10:36:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 03, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
Sarsfields had a man sent off after about 15 mins too so great performance

Mate was at it and said the lights were pathetic

Straight red?


Straight red. Dirty pull.

Took a run over to it. Given I answered your question I've two of my own.

1. Can a 30 yard free ever become a penalty? Sars man went to hit shot for goal quickly, CMills man stepped across. Moved in for a penalty. They scored the rebound.

2. Quick puck out to a player in midfield who had broken a hurl in last phase of play and was running to sideline to get hurl. He had half a stick in hand. He caught, took 2/3 steps and laid off to teammate. Blown up, free given, point. If you have half a stick is that not technically a stick? Would say 75% of players and refs don't actually know exactly what rule is on playing with no stick, handpassing off if you'd dropped it etc.

Cheers

Penalty is when you foul the man in the, well penalty area, foul the ball 21 yard free and if you move it forward for dissent it's still a 21 yard free, anybody can play without a stick stupid rule/nonrule as such

Cheers - both decisions by Jackie were wrong therefore cost CMills 1-1. A bit of salt in their wounds I would say. The penalty was a pretty game-changing moment as got them some momentum as despite CMills getting a fee points after it they never properly shook Sarsfields off.
Momentum is a mad thing in hurling - seriously hard to break.

Was McKenna injured Gladiator - started very well but faded.

Yeah, tweaked a hamstring in a football game last Wednesday night. Didnt play in  the first game but took the risk last night. He is a very important player for us, unfortunately he only really lasted about 20 mins before playing on with it. Hope he didnt do too kuch more damage to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thegladiator on September 04, 2014, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 04, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Never much between the sides and will all boil down to who takes their chances.
Sarsfields don't have a strong bench so with a straight red last night and mc Kenna carrying an injury they might struggle.However I watched sarsfields draw with St. John's a few weeks back and was impressed with them, should have won and this against a St. John's team who st galls handy a week before . This will go down to the wire and could be nasty :)
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Think you are being a bit harsh there. We don't have the players to earn that reputation! For once we have more skillful hurlers than physical hurlers and long may it continue. The sending off will probably help us for the semi final as he is always likely to do something daft. Hopefully niall mc alea and ciarnan rea will be available so we should be a bit stronger than last night. Both teams will fancy their chances.  Could even go to a replay. ... is Ballycastle free?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.

Actually no, last weekend didnt show us any surprises really. Showed us you dont pay attention in class  ;)

Ballycastle poor form coming into the game, starting a player only back from 2 years out showed they werent in a good place. Yet you still backed them.
Loughgiel struggling for form all year, the form team Cushendall coming in and you went for LG again, ignoring the form guide.
Galls came through as expected, as did Sars.

No shocks or surprises there, pure and simple follow the form stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.



Follow the form??

Cushendall,  with a full 15 out were beat the Sunday before championship. I was there. Ballycastle were quietly fancied to go the whole way. I notice you selectively left out Armoy v St. Paul's. And St. Galls were a split second from going out.

Think that counts as surprises. I'll finish with this point. Standing among the Cushendall fans on Sunday night you would think they had won the All Ireland. Believe me they were gladly surprised. I agree Loughgiel have been poor all year.but deep down most people thought they would turn it on come championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.



Follow the form??

Cushendall,  with a full 15 out were beat the Sunday before championship. I was there. Ballycastle were quietly fancied to go the whole way. I notice you selectively left out Armoy v St. Paul's. And St. Galls were a split second from going out.

Think that counts as surprises. I'll finish with this point. Standing among the Cushendall fans on Sunday night you would think they had won the All Ireland. Believe me they were gladly surprised. I agree Loughgiel have been poor all year.but deep down most people thought they would turn it on come championship.



Armoy in Ballycastle against a poor St Pauls team, by their own admission to me doesnt constitute a shock.

Ballycastle to be honest were not fancied by anyone outside of their own camp. LG missing two key forwards through injury and struggling for form were there for the taking.

I'm not getting at you but you just cant come off with blase statements about shocks were there were none.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
Your argument was based on form!!!!

Based on form Armoy are in a lower division than St. Paul's. Cloughmills are in a lower division than Sarsfields.

Based on form .......loughgiel beat Cushendall in their most recent league game and Cushendall lost their league game previous to championship.

Blase???? Not a bit NAG.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
Your argument was based on form!!!!

Based on form Armoy are in a lower division than St. Paul's. Cloughmills are in a lower division than Sarsfields.

Based on form .......loughgiel beat Cushendall in their most recent league game and Cushendall lost their league game previous to championship.

Blase???? Not a bit NAG.

Not going to drag it out any more, just pointing out what I see as an inaccuracy in your previous post.

I dont think most hurling people would have found any of the results a shock. But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 03:23:21 PM
Fair enough, you're being reasonable. Hard to go down the form route in Antrim hurling with the lack of importance attached to leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 04, 2014, 03:41:02 PM
NAG, wind your neck in, the only shock result last weekend was Cushendall beating Lougheil. And if you thought otherwise you are totally delusional.

Dunloy beating Ballycastle was not even close to a shock. Dont understand peoples optimism for ballycastle each year, they are a poor side which last weekend showed.

Really pointless debate all the same  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
Ballycastle havnt done it in 30 years Megaman so it's hard to argue with you. I don't think their defence is amazing and that is their downfall.

Their forwards on paper (McGarry, Donnelly, Clarke, Saul, Stoogy, Jennings) look very impressive. But they were awful on Saturday night. Until they learn how to get the best out of them they will remain a non runner.

I think a good manager could win a championship with that squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 04, 2014, 03:41:02 PM
NAG, wind your neck in, the only shock result last weekend was Cushendall beating Lougheil. And if you thought otherwise you are totally delusional.

Dunloy beating Ballycastle was not even close to a shock. Dont understand peoples optimism for ballycastle each year, they are a poor side which last weekend showed.

Really pointless debate all the same  :-X

That was my exact point Megaman have a look back!

agreed on the merits of the argument all the same  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 04, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
Probably being a bit harsh saying they are a poor side.

They have some good forwards now, but i would still see it as a major shock if they where to beat one of the top 3 in the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 04, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
Probably being a bit harsh saying they are a poor side.

They have some good forwards now, but i would still see it as a major shock if they where to beat one of the top 3 in the championship.

Ballycastle are not a poor side, they just figured out how to win yet ( see loughgeil not so long ago)
I think they might need someone like Jim nelson
For all there firepower they have only one forward how knows how to ship a tackle and get on with it
I know one thing, if they ever commit themselves, throw away the mental inhibitions that comes from not winning for a very long time then god helps us all for five years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2014, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 04, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
Probably being a bit harsh saying they are a poor side.

They have some good forwards now, but i would still see it as a major shock if they where to beat one of the top 3 in the championship.

Ballycastle are not a poor side, they just figured out how to win yet ( see loughgeil not so long ago)
I think they might need someone like Jim nelson
For all there firepower they have only one forward how knows how to ship a tackle and get on with it
I know one thing, if they ever commit themselves, throw away the mental inhibitions that comes from not winning for a very long time then god helps us all for five years

Yep, that could be the thing, they've always went in house and to be fair to them they have had some great hurlers in their day but management is different altogether, and someone who's not going to have the baggage of club politics hanging over him may be the answer.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
Joe Cassidy is their joint manager he is not from the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.

Cloughmills player ran in and tackled McKernan when he was striking the free from 25 yards. Jackie booked the Cloughmills player and awarded a penalty. Sarsfields scored their goal from the rebound.

So is this adjudged to be a separate infringement and hence the penalty award?
But surely even this wasnt within the square?
I would have though book the guy and move to a more advantageous position?
Did Cloughmills not go crazy at the time! Seems a strange one to me!

Going crazy on the sideline is a different thing from in the heat of battle just getting on with it as players - would Jackie has changes his mind? Probably not and issued a yellow card. It was not inside the box (either infraction) and it appears should not have become a penalty in any event - should have been moves forward to the more advantageous position as noted. Bit of a disgrace.

Have a lot of sympathy for refs but getting these basic things wrong cost CMills dearly...not necessarily the reason they lost but was a huge turning point.

Can referees not get together and agree positions on things where they come up in games. I was stood not too far away from another well respected referee in the county who called these two things and a couple more differently. A high pressure position alright but the least players deserve is consitency and rules applied.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2014, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
Joe Cassidy is their joint manager he is not from the club.

Is he not a coach? football man also. completely different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
Calls as many shots as McShane. He is definitely a football man, just look at his intercounty career with Derry. Think that's part of the Town's problem, hurling is a unique game, very different to football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
Calls as many shots as McShane. He is definitely a football man, just look at his intercounty career with Derry. Think that's part of the Town's problem, hurling is a unique game, very different to football.

I can understand a coach getting involved in a game but the reality is the manager should be the only one doing it. Coach for coaching manager for managing, too many cooks and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
Calls as many shots as McShane. He is definitely a football man, just look at his intercounty career with Derry. Think that's part of the Town's problem, hurling is a unique game, very different to football.

He was with with Loughgiel too & managed Cross & Passion school teams so I would say he has a fair idea what he is at by now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
Calls as many shots as McShane. He is definitely a football man, just look at his intercounty career with Derry. Think that's part of the Town's problem, hurling is a unique game, very different to football.

I can understand a coach getting involved in a game but the reality is the manager should be the only one doing it. Coach for coaching manager for managing, too many cooks and all that

Yep agree with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.

Cloughmills player ran in and tackled McKernan when he was striking the free from 25 yards. Jackie booked the Cloughmills player and awarded a penalty. Sarsfields scored their goal from the rebound.

So is this adjudged to be a separate infringement and hence the penalty award?
But surely even this wasnt within the square?
I would have though book the guy and move to a more advantageous position?
Did Cloughmills not go crazy at the time! Seems a strange one to me!

Going crazy on the sideline is a different thing from in the heat of battle just getting on with it as players - would Jackie has changes his mind? Probably not and issued a yellow card. It was not inside the box (either infraction) and it appears should not have become a penalty in any event - should have been moves forward to the more advantageous position as noted. Bit of a disgrace.

Have a lot of sympathy for refs but getting these basic things wrong cost CMills dearly...not necessarily the reason they lost but was a huge turning point.

Can referees not get together and agree positions on things where they come up in games. I was stood not too far away from another well respected referee in the county who called these two things and a couple more differently. A high pressure position alright but the least players deserve is consitency and rules applied.

Yes I understand a referee making a debateable call in an ambiguous scenario - we're all human an all that.
But this just seems such a blatant error in a basic rule!
Hard to get the head round for anyone let alone a cloughmills man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2014, 07:09:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
Calls as many shots as McShane. He is definitely a football man, just look at his intercounty career with Derry. Think that's part of the Town's problem, hurling is a unique game, very different to football.

He was with with Loughgiel too & managed Cross & Passion school teams so I would say he has a fair idea what he is at by now

Sure sign him up then for Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
Minder, that management team have had a few seasons now. They are no closer to success. I reckon if the town got a hurling man in they would have a good chance of success. Who though?????? Suggestions people ..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2014, 07:46:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 04, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Brian Cody.

Should be easy to convince him that it's Kilkenny.

What about the north antrim accent, always get an interpater
At least they could flak all round them and the press wouldn't call them dirty
If coady was in charge of them last week
Mr2 woukd be getting  shocking abuse In the press for sending men of

'' it's a mans game '' blah blah blah

I see he has willie o Conner trying to influence the ref for Sunday in the press
He knows all the tricks in the book

http://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=90110

Read here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 04, 2014, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.



Follow the form??

Cushendall,  with a full 15 out were beat the Sunday before championship. I was there. Ballycastle were quietly fancied to go the whole way. I notice you selectively left out Armoy v St. Paul's. And St. Galls were a split second from going out.

Think that counts as surprises. I'll finish with this point. Standing among the Cushendall fans on Sunday night you would think they had won the All Ireland. Believe me they were gladly surprised. I agree Loughgiel have been poor all year.but deep down most people thought they would turn it on come championship.
lol got that myself.  I must have left before presentation :)   Think that's just what we bring to the table. Everyone loves to beat us. Lol. Use are no different. Won a league game and use were gonna win the championship.  It's cdalls to loose now IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I'm finding it difficult to believe that an referee turned a 21yard free into a penalty?

Casement saga in court next week it appears.

Cloughmills player ran in and tackled McKernan when he was striking the free from 25 yards. Jackie booked the Cloughmills player and awarded a penalty. Sarsfields scored their goal from the rebound.

So is this adjudged to be a separate infringement and hence the penalty award?
But surely even this wasnt within the square?
I would have though book the guy and move to a more advantageous position?
Did Cloughmills not go crazy at the time! Seems a strange one to me!

Going crazy on the sideline is a different thing from in the heat of battle just getting on with it as players - would Jackie has changes his mind? Probably not and issued a yellow card. It was not inside the box (either infraction) and it appears should not have become a penalty in any event - should have been moves forward to the more advantageous position as noted. Bit of a disgrace.

Have a lot of sympathy for refs but getting these basic things wrong cost CMills dearly...not necessarily the reason they lost but was a huge turning point.

Can referees not get together and agree positions on things where they come up in games. I was stood not too far away from another well respected referee in the county who called these two things and a couple more differently. A high pressure position alright but the least players deserve is consitency and rules applied.

Yes I understand a referee making a debateable call in an ambiguous scenario - we're all human an all that.
But this just seems such a blatant error in a basic rule!
Hard to get the head round for anyone let alone a cloughmills man!

Think we're on the same wavelength here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 04, 2014, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 04, 2014, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 04, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 04, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
If last weekend taught us anything is that this championship has been full of upsets. Just ask Loughgiel, Ballycastle or St. Paul's.  St. Galls won't do 'nasty'.



Follow the form??

Cushendall,  with a full 15 out were beat the Sunday before championship. I was there. Ballycastle were quietly fancied to go the whole way. I notice you selectively left out Armoy v St. Paul's. And St. Galls were a split second from going out.

Think that counts as surprises. I'll finish with this point. Standing among the Cushendall fans on Sunday night you would think they had won the All Ireland. Believe me they were gladly surprised. I agree Loughgiel have been poor all year.but deep down most people thought they would turn it on come championship.
lol got that myself.  I must have left before presentation :)   Think that's just what we bring to the table. Everyone loves to beat us. Lol. Use are no different. Won a league game and use were gonna win the championship.  It's cdalls to loose now IMO
I don't agree SG..Dunloy will fancy their chances & have a very clever manager in place.
I always thought they would win the QF. The Town have some poor hurlers. When was the last time they beat one of the other 3 in C'Ship Hurling??
C'Dall will be wary of Dunloy. I'd say the Dall supporters enjoyed it so much cos it was a bit of a suprise especially after last years final performance & the commitment/passion of their players on Sunday.

I'd expect St Galls to win the other semi though those 2 matches should help the Paddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2014, 10:49:20 PM
The last two years against dunloy cushendall have been exposed a bit in the centre of defense through nigel elliot's pace.

They'd need to fix that to win. Seemed more susceptible to than to shorty though he's playing much better this year. Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on September 04, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
Sad news from Lamh Dhearg with the death of referee Eddie Fitz. A good committed member of our association.  RIP

Shocking news. Heart goes out to a great family. RIP Eddie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2014, 08:53:41 AM
i wasnt that confident going into the ballycastle game of us winning. i knew that we had that mental edge of beating them the past 2 times in the championship but that counts for nothing when your not consistent like we are.

cushendall will be massive favourites, and rightly so, with the team they have. the young lads they have are impressive and have stepped up to the mark this year for them. having a sucessfull minor team and building into U21 then senior has helped them. it will be interesting to see if this is a new period of domination in antrim hurling.

i would love us to win, and im a lot more confident now after the ballycastle game but it will be a big ask to turn them over. will be a good game hopefully
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Ok, my predictions for the championship semi finals. What do you think?

Senior:
Cushendall V Dunloy - Cushendall by 3
St Galls V Sarsfields - St Galls by 4

Intermediate:
Carey V Rossa - Carey by 2
Armoy V Glenariff - Glenariff by 9

Junior:
Rasharkin V Glenarm - Glenarm by 3
Glenravel V St Agnes - Glenravel by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2014, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Ok, my predictions for the championship semi finals. What do you think?

Senior:
Cushendall V Dunloy - Cushendall by 3
St Galls V Sarsfields - St Galls by 4

Intermediate:
Carey V Rossa - Carey by 2
Armoy V Glenariff - Glenariff by 9

Junior:
Rasharkin V Glenarm - Glenarm by 3
Glenravel V St Agnes - Glenravel by 2

Can't (probably best) predict games until referees have been decided ffs!!!! Oh I can our game, hopefully we win by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2014, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Ok, my predictions for the championship semi finals. What do you think?

Senior:
Cushendall V Dunloy - Cushendall by 3
St Galls V Sarsfields - St Galls by 4

Intermediate:
Carey V Rossa - Carey by 2
Armoy V Glenariff - Glenariff by 9

Junior:
Rasharkin V Glenarm - Glenarm by 3
Glenravel V St Agnes - Glenravel by 2

Can't (probably best) predict games until referees have been decided ffs!!!! Oh I can our game, hopefully we win by 1

Lol, you may keep your powder dry until then! When will the referees be allocated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
Soon id imagine but with Whats happened recently things may take a while to get sorted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 05, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Ok, my predictions for the championship semi finals. What do you think?

Senior:
Cushendall V Dunloy - Cushendall by 3
St Galls V Sarsfields - St Galls by 4

Intermediate:
Carey V Rossa - Carey by 2
Armoy V Glenariff - Glenariff by 9

Junior:
Rasharkin V Glenarm - Glenarm by 3
Glenravel V St Agnes - Glenravel by 2


Cushendall by 3
Galls by 6

Rossa by 8
Glenariff by 12

Rasharkin by 20
St Agnes by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
Dunloy by 2/4 points.
Sarsfields by something similar.

Good job I'm not a betting man.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
Dunloy by 2/4 points.
Sarsfields by something similar.

Good job I'm not a betting man.  ;)

Cause youre shit lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2014, 04:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2014, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2014, 10:54:20 AM
Dunloy by 2/4 points.
Sarsfields by something similar.

Good job I'm not a betting man.  ;)

Cause youre shit lol
not the first time I've heard that.  ;)

Congrats to Rossa on winning the minors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on September 07, 2014, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 05, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Ok, my predictions for the championship semi finals. What do you think?

Senior:
Cushendall V Dunloy - Cushendall by 3
St Galls V Sarsfields - St Galls by 4

Intermediate:
Carey V Rossa - Carey by 2
Armoy V Glenariff - Glenariff by 9

Junior:
Rasharkin V Glenarm - Glenarm by 3
Glenravel V St Agnes - Glenravel by 2

Cushendall by a few points. They will be on a massive high still from beating Loughgiel. A good mixture of youth and experience in that Cushendall team. Young Sambo is a fantastic hurler

St Galls v Sars - Really could go either way this one but I think St Galls will sneak it

Carey v Rossa - Carey are always a brilliant championship team and I think they will give Rossa a much better game than most expect. Will be another very tight game but I think Rossa will come through in the end by a point or two

Armoy v Glenariff - Again, I don't think this is going to be as one sided as most people think. Armoy are a very handy team who won't stop the whole game. Glenariff are in for a battle in this one but will probably win by about 5 points

Rasharkin v Glenarm - Rasharkin gave Glenarm a doing in the league not so long ago and Glenarm have really been struggling for a while now but if they are on the game they are capable of, I think they should win. If they keep playing the way they have been the last few months, Rasharkin will win it easy enough. Hard to predict as you don't know what Glenarm will turn up but I will say Raskarkin by by 6 points

Glenravel v St Agnes - Glenravel have a lot of momentum gathered up. Unbeaten league season and have already played a couple of championship games. St Agnes yet to win a game this season although in a higher league. Glenravel by 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 08, 2014, 09:52:22 AM
Will be very surprised if its not a dall v galls final!

Rossa should be winning the intermediate - if they want it! Im hearing many in the club dont want to admit theyre playing in it, never mind having to win it!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2014, 09:20:02 PM
 :o I no.  Like why would you want to win a championship. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2014, 09:36:17 AM
two points in it either way between ourselves and cushendall. I can see it being a really tight game.

the other semi final will be the exact same. tbh I wouldn't be shocked if sarsfields won it. semi final, nothing to lose and a final up for grabs for someone.

im going to be biased and pick us to win by 2 points and it be a Dunloy v Sarsfields final! im going against the groove here lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 09, 2014, 11:42:52 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
I'm not even sure what that means tbh.

Not surprising really!!! :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 09, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
Explain what you mean DearyMe? I don't know how anyone could hold that attitude to a championship game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 09, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Dont wanna touch a nerve Slick, but i would be familiar enough with a fair few Rossa men who place zero value on the intermediate championship.  This probably stems from the clubs history in senior.  So what i mean is... some arent bothered if Rossa win it or not!!! 

This is no slight on anyone btw - but its not hard to understand fellas who are used to playing senior, and competing, with a history of winning, undervaluing a perceived lesser competition. (which btw isnt my opinion).

Clear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 09, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Dont wanna touch a nerve Slick, but i would be familiar enough with a fair few Rossa men who place zero value on the intermediate championship.  This probably stems from the clubs history in senior.  So what i mean is... some arent bothered if Rossa win it or not!!! 

Surely if they value it or not is irrelevant - they should still want to win it?
To be beaten in it would be more of a slap in the face than having dropped down a level?

This is no slight on anyone btw - but its not hard to understand fellas who are used to playing senior, and competing, with a history of winning, undervaluing a perceived lesser competition. (which btw isnt my opinion).

How many of the current Rossa team are used to winning at senior?

Clear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 09, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 09, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 09, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Dont wanna touch a nerve Slick, but i would be familiar enough with a fair few Rossa men who place zero value on the intermediate championship.  This probably stems from the clubs history in senior.  So what i mean is... some arent bothered if Rossa win it or not!!! 

Surely if they value it or not is irrelevant - they should still want to win it?
To be beaten in it would be more of a slap in the face than having dropped down a level?

This is no slight on anyone btw - but its not hard to understand fellas who are used to playing senior, and competing, with a history of winning, undervaluing a perceived lesser competition. (which btw isnt my opinion).

Cant see why people are putting Rossa under the spotlight, tradition counts for little in the city at the present. Keeping a steady drip feed of minors into the senior panel is hellish hard, if they don't immediately get a starting place they just don't come back, if not from a strong hurling family.  They are having to blood a lot of younger fellas at once now to rebuild the panel. They know where they are and are doing what they have to do regardless of anyone.

How many of the current Rossa team are used to winning at senior?

Clear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 09, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 09, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 09, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Dont wanna touch a nerve Slick, but i would be familiar enough with a fair few Rossa men who place zero value on the intermediate championship.  This probably stems from the clubs history in senior.  So what i mean is... some arent bothered if Rossa win it or not!!! 

Surely if they value it or not is irrelevant - they should still want to win it?
To be beaten in it would be more of a slap in the face than having dropped down a level?

This is no slight on anyone btw - but its not hard to understand fellas who are used to playing senior, and competing, with a history of winning, undervaluing a perceived lesser competition. (which btw isnt my opinion).

Cant see why people are putting Rossa under the spotlight, tradition counts for little in the city at the present. Keeping a steady drip feed of minors into the senior panel is hellish hard, if they don't immediately get a starting place they just don't come back, if not from a strong hurling family.  They are having to blood a lot of younger fellas at once now to rebuild the panel. They know where they are and are doing what they have to do regardless of anyone.

How many of the current Rossa team are used to winning at senior?

Clear?

Couldnt agree more Last Man - I'm questoning what DearyMe was saying and if that was the mentality in Rossa - its doenst hold up.
Their recent results in the last number of years, and the make-up of their team at present show that they are far from too good for intermediate as the successful seniors have gone - its a new young team and senior is beyond those younger players who may be swamped by bigger sides. They should be trying to win it as a building block one would imagine?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 10, 2014, 10:51:26 AM
Guys am I making it up then?

I agree with whats being said btw - about winning it etc

Im just saying what has been said to me - and to answer the question regarding those current players who have played senior championship - there are a few!
But some prominent ex players certainly snub it!

But listen, im not commenting on this to start a row! Thats me done on it now!  It seems that if people on here disagree, because they havent heard it, then it must be wrong!

Looking forward to games at weekend!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 10, 2014, 10:51:26 AM
Guys am I making it up then?

I agree with whats being said btw - about winning it etc

Im just saying what has been said to me - and to answer the question regarding those current players who have played senior championship - there are a few!

The point you (or Rossa) made was about be SUCCESSFUL at senior - I'm saying that not many (if any) of the current squad have won many (if any) senior games at all!

But some prominent ex players certainly snub it!

I will leave that to HS but its not relevant anyway.
But listen, im not commenting on this to start a row! Thats me done on it now!  It seems that if people on here disagree, because they havent heard it, then it must be wrong!

Looking forward to games at weekend!

This weeked has its pick of games for my liking.

Dunloy V Cushendall is the county final in disguise - every way I look at it I see a Dall victory - but its championship, and its Dunloy - so who knows!
I will be pulling moves to try and get my way to the Sarsfield V St Galls game. Can see St Galls winning this with their more competitive edge across the 15 positions, especially is the Paddies are missing a few.

On a side note - does anyone have any idea on the release of tickets for the All-Ireland replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 10, 2014, 10:51:26 AM
Guys am I making it up then?

I agree with whats being said btw - about winning it etc

Im just saying what has been said to me - and to answer the question regarding those current players who have played senior championship - there are a few!

The point you (or Rossa) made was about be SUCCESSFUL at senior - I'm saying that not many (if any) of the current squad have won many (if any) senior games at all!

But some prominent ex players certainly snub it!

I will leave that to HS but its not relevant anyway.
But listen, im not commenting on this to start a row! Thats me done on it now!  It seems that if people on here disagree, because they havent heard it, then it must be wrong!

Looking forward to games at weekend!

This weeked has its pick of games for my liking.

Dunloy V Cushendall is the county final in disguise - every way I look at it I see a Dall victory - but its championship, and its Dunloy - so who knows!
I will be pulling moves to try and get my way to the Sarsfield V St Galls game. Can see St Galls winning this with their more competitive edge across the 15 positions, especially is the Paddies are missing a few.

On a side note - does anyone have any idea on the release of tickets for the All-Ireland replay?

Should we beat Sarsfields on Saturday (I think the minimum score will win it, for either team) well beat Dunloy or Cushendall in the final!!!

Now go get money on us quickly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Would love to see it MR2 but I think the days of the city teams catching the big Glens teams out in championship are gone - for a while at least.

Your boys should have too much for the Paddies - so you won't get to Ref the county final this year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Would love to see it MR2 but I think the days of the city teams catching the big Glens teams out in championship are gone - for a while at least.

Your boys should have too much for the Paddies - so you won't get to Ref the county final this year!

At a loose end this weekend!! So I'll be in Corrigan with gear  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2014, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Would love to see it MR2 but I think the days of the city teams catching the big Glens teams out in championship are gone - for a while at least.

Your boys should have too much for the Paddies - so you won't get to Ref the county final this year!

At a loose end this weekend!! So I'll be in Corrigan with gear  ;)


I didn't think the Refs committee would worry what club you refereed considering some recent appointments, so you never know you might still get to ref the final even if Galls are in it ;) , what you need is a guy from your club appointing the ref that's all it takes ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2014, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 12:19:31 PM
Would love to see it MR2 but I think the days of the city teams catching the big Glens teams out in championship are gone - for a while at least.

Your boys should have too much for the Paddies - so you won't get to Ref the county final this year!

At a loose end this weekend!! So I'll be in Corrigan with gear  ;)


I didn't think the Refs committee would worry what club you refereed considering some recent appointments, so you never know you might still get to ref the final even if Galls are in it ;) , what you need is a guy from your club appointing the ref that's all it takes ;D ;D

Now now, someone has to give up their own time to organise officials for games, I don't know of too many people willing to do it even for their own clubs never mind ensuring that the league/championships games are officiated in the first place.

as other mentors/managers and generally helpers within their club will tell you, come the AGM, nobody is queuing up to give a hand ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
I think Cushendall will beat Dunloy.  They have more all over the pitch and while Dunloy will work like dogs and have Shiels Cushendall will have too much for them.

I really hope St Galls come through the other side.  It'll mean that that cnut Duffy won't get the final and just to stuff it to him Cushendall will stuff them.  No offence MR2 but he screwed you as well as sticking it to the Town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
well thats nice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 10, 2014, 09:50:51 PM
What's going on??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-29151332

Very reasonable if you ask me.
New stadium? Yes please!
But let's not make it too big for both residents and the GAA!
We all want a functional stadium - not a picture postcard that's never more than half filled!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
was wondering this last night, are the residents wanting any financial bribery to let this go through? or is it a case of they want a smaller stadium?

my way of sorting it out. dump the stadium plan at Casement park, sell it off for development, buy a new green field sight and put one there. end of. no residents, no social club, no bother.........but we cant afford to do that......we cant afford to finish our 'centre of excellence' can we?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 11, 2014, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
was wondering this last night, are the residents wanting any financial bribery to let this go through? or is it a case of they want a smaller stadium?

my way of sorting it out. dump the stadium plan at Casement park, sell it off for development, buy a new green field sight and put one there. end of. no residents, no social club, no bother.........but we cant afford to do that......we cant afford to finish our 'centre of excellence' can we?

Don't get those we's mixed up, one is the Ulster Council and the other is Antrim CB.

For some reason the Casement site was the only option seriously considered irrespective of what consultation process the gimps in the Ulster Council try to bullshit us with, not sure of the reasons, political or whatever, but its going to be there one way or another in some shape or form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 11, 2014, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 10:18:20 AM
was wondering this last night, are the residents wanting any financial bribery to let this go through? or is it a case of they want a smaller stadium?

my way of sorting it out. dump the stadium plan at Casement park, sell it off for development, buy a new green field sight and put one there. end of. no residents, no social club, no bother.........but we cant afford to do that......we cant afford to finish our 'centre of excellence' can we?

Don't get those we's mixed up, one is the Ulster Council and the other is Antrim CB.

For some reason the Casement site was the only option seriously considered irrespective of what consultation process the gimps in the Ulster Council try to bullshit us with, not sure of the reasons, political or whatever, but its going to be there one way or another in some shape or form.

Green field site 1/4 mile away from Casement ffs!! Would suit everyone not too many residents to pay off oops  please. Was already mentioned before. Driving past Casement the other week. Waste of fecking time, all those games in past 2 years that could have went ahead only for it to be wasted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
im the same, this has went on too long, if this was any other type of commercial development it wouldn't have dragged its ass this long.

im like most other fans in Antrim, we have accepted it wont happen and we are an embarrassment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
I can agree with so much there!

Firstly, the current proposal for Casement suits neither the residents nor the GAA - the stadium is too big for both.
But the "powers that be" both political and Ulster Council just saw a big glossy stadium that they could claim their legacy. The functionality and suitability was irrelevant - it was all about the photoshoots.

The dogs in the street know thsi, despite what the PR spin might have anyone believe.

An alternative site was never really considered - such was the haste of the push for Casement linked to the politics of Revenhill & Windsor Park.

My personal feeling was a revamped Casement on a small but modern scale (Ravehill is a beautiful and fit for purpose stadium). Also, this should be tied in with Antrim County Board not surrending control of the asset - after all it belongs to all of us.

Side notes, the residents I have spoken to are not all about getting a few quid "bribe". Not by a long stretch - despite what certain people with personal agendas might spread.
Also, dont start me on Dunsilly!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 11, 2014, 11:47:53 AM
Legacy/residents/county board/whatever - all a pity really - would love to see it!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 11:53:57 AM
Dunsilly is the elephant in the room with regards to Antrim.

I agree that a 32k all seater stadium is excessive. whilst it would be nice to have such a place to play our games in reality how many times a year would be filled to capacity? also the ulster council would prefer to keep the ulster final over the border! but anyway that isn't the point here.

the point is we were more or less forced into revamping our county ground. we all knew it needed massive work but it should of been done at our agenda and not a political one. our county finals would attract what, 3000 people maybe if it was double header and the fixtures looked good? do we need 28k empty seats? no.

one big main stand stretching the entire length where the existing is situated and open seating behind the goals and terracing on the existing side would do. upgrade the toilets, amenities, disabled facilities, match day offerings etc and we would all of been happy - even the residents.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2014, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 11, 2014, 11:47:53 AM
Legacy/residents/county board/whatever - all a pity really - would love to see it!

Not far off the mark DR, fair play.

As for this DearyMe - I'm not sure what it is you would love to see, but "whatever" is precisely the attitude that has us here.
Sure ignore everything and everyone and stick Garth Brooks in Croke park for 5 days running as well - "whatever".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 11, 2014, 01:15:38 PM
Why have ago at me btdgtt?

Unfortunately you clearly struggle with grammar.  The 'whatever' i refer to is part of the option clause i've used as a list.  It does not refer to 'i don't care'!  It is an ignorant 'whatever', meaning i lack the knowledge as to why Casement has stalled! 

To clarify my very very basic post.

I would love to see Casement open for business, ideally with upgrades included.

Deary deary me...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 02:35:36 PM
Well that's the main thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
personally I couldn't give two fiddler about a social club. ive been in it once in my life and ive been going to casement park for matches since I was a kid in the mid 80's.

i couldn't care less if it was never built.

we need our county ground back and sorted. with the greatest of respect to ballycastle its not a county ground. they have done a brilliant job this year providing for the national league games and leinster championship games but its a club ground, it has no shelter, limited toilet facilities plus when the win blows its bloody freezing lol

being fair ballycastle did a good job but we need a county ground, the quicker this is sorted the better for all parties.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 11, 2014, 01:15:38 PM
Why have ago at me btdgtt?

Unfortunately you clearly struggle with grammar.  The 'whatever' i refer to is part of the option clause i've used as a list.  It does not refer to 'i don't care'!  It is an ignorant 'whatever', meaning i lack the knowledge as to why Casement has stalled! 

To clarify my very very basic post.

I would love to see Casement open for business, ideally with upgrades included.

Deary deary me...

Fair enough DearyMe, maybe I just wish less people were ignorant of the situation with our county ground.
Although you can never be too sensitive on this board ;)

And thats the point - as DR says - it should be OUR county ground.

The fact is - it's been userpt from under us by the personal egos of GAA people putting their agenda before Gaels, and politicians.

We might have to get used to games at Ballycastle and the other grounds (fair dues they've done a great job).
Because we won't have free use of Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 02:35:36 PM
Well that's the main thing
Well, for the social club, it is.
Sure it wouldn't me jack shit to them where the social clubs, is as long as it's in that area they will be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 02:35:36 PM
Well that's the main thing
Well, for the social club, it is.
Sure it wouldn't me jack shit to them where the social clubs, is as long as it's in that area they will be happy
And?

And what? as long as they aren't losing out then, that's good?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
personally I couldn't give two fiddler about a social club. ive been in it once in my life and ive been going to casement park for matches since I was a kid in the mid 80's.

i couldn't care less if it was never built.



Well, obviously, it's no odds to you. Why would it be?
I mean, only people in Rossa would be concerned when our social club closed.
I wouldn't really care if a social club up the country closed down.

Doesn't mean those who go to it wouldn't care.

point is that the redevelopment of our county ground has been halted over a social club. well it was halted I should say, but it was bloody ridiculous. does our county receive any money from this place? it seems that its not.

also Rossa social club closing down was a shame, it was a pity that it did as it was a valuable source of income for your club. no one likes to see a club suffer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 11, 2014, 03:35:19 PM
Atmosphere can be great at Ballycastle as it can at Loughgiel. I would love to be going to all 3 games on Saturday but it is impossible. Quite frustrating!!! I will make up for it on Sunday by getting to all 3 games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
Yes. Good job they took on the fight though.

Yep as there aren't enough bars about that area that you could have a decent drink in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2014, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
personally I couldn't give two fiddler about a social club. ive been in it once in my life and ive been going to casement park for matches since I was a kid in the mid 80's.

i couldn't care less if it was never built.



Well, obviously, it's no odds to you. Why would it be?
I mean, only people in Rossa would be concerned when our social club closed.
I wouldn't really care if a social club up the country closed down.

Doesn't mean those who go to it wouldn't care.

point is that the redevelopment of our county ground has been halted over a social club. well it was halted I should say, but it was bloody ridiculous. does our county receive any money from this place? it seems that its not.

also Rossa social club closing down was a shame, it was a pity that it did as it was a valuable source of income for your club. no one likes to see a club suffer.

DR I think I would do a fact check on your post before sticking that up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
personally I couldn't give two fiddler about a social club. ive been in it once in my life and ive been going to casement park for matches since I was a kid in the mid 80's.

i couldn't care less if it was never built.



Well, obviously, it's no odds to you. Why would it be?
I mean, only people in Rossa would be concerned when our social club closed.
I wouldn't really care if a social club up the country closed down.

Doesn't mean those who go to it wouldn't care.

point is that the redevelopment of our county ground has been halted over a social club. well it was halted I should say, but it was bloody ridiculous. does our county receive any money from this place? it seems that its not.

What the actual fcuk??
a) Casement Social club did not halt the progress of the new stadium at all.
so that dragging session through the courts, seeking new sites for them to be located, meetings etc didn't hold it up?
b) 100% of Casement Social club's profits go to Antrim GAA.
hence why I asked that, spot on
c) The new development will belong to Ulster GAA, not Antrim.
But sure...... ::)
so we don't own our own ground.........
you don't need to add the fcuk in it to make a point either. im asking genuine questions seeing as no one has a clue whats going on at casement park!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
Yes. Good job they took on the fight though.

Yep as there aren't enough bars about that area that you could have a decent drink in
Yeah, get rid of Sarsfields, St Teresa's, St Agnes' etc. there's loads of clubs in the area people can play for drink in .

For a start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
jaysus im sorry I asked now.

feck it, keep the ground at ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 04:18:27 PM
jaysus im sorry I asked now.

feck it, keep the ground at ballycastle.
I genuinely believe that will happen if the new stadium goes ahead. Certainly for the National League games.

So if it all goes tits up, will they reopen Casement? I mean have they not given away a load of stuff and demolished things so far?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
why do I get the feeling we will be in ballycastle for the next lot of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
why do I get the feeling we will be in ballycastle for the next lot of years

Confident? You'll have to get past Cushendall first  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 04:50:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
why do I get the feeling we will be in ballycastle for the next lot of years

Confident? You'll have to get past Cushendall first  ;)

;D I would love to be that confident! haha if I had our team from the late 90's I would be confident for this weekend.

I think its going to be a tough ask to beat that Cushendall team,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2014, 04:51:42 PM
just updated on the BBC site

Building a new 38,000-seater GAA stadium that visually integrates within its west Belfast neighbourhood is impossible, a court has been told.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-29159764
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
You see hardstation - sometimes we do agree!

Yes - the social club contributed handsomely to Antrim GAA.
No - the social club did not hold the development up.

Yes - the stadium had been sold from under us.
It's like the North American settlers selling off the natives land - which they never owned to sell!

Yes - we may get used to county fixtures & club championship elsewhere!

Shame it has taken so long for the majority of true gaels to see the deceit and self promotion of personal interests of those at the top table in ulster council & Antrim - and certain politicos.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2014, 07:06:46 PM
Ok seeing as I'm not involved this weekend I can have a go at predicting the games this weekend

Naomh Gall v Sarsfields us by 2
Dunloy V Cushendall Dall by 4
Carey V Rossa Rossa by 6
Glenariff v Armoy Glenariff by 7
Con Magees v St Agnes'  Aggies to get over the heartache of last weekend by 3
St Mary's Rasharkin v Shane Uí Néill  Shane O'Neill's by the minimum (they'd have to improve on game I saw them play)


I hope I only get one result right  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
They've made some mess, that's for sure.

If Antrim have already signed the ground over to Ulster Council's control, we don't really have a say what happens to it.

Our county's greatest asset has possibly been given away.
That's just superb.

hold on a minute, are you saying that the ulster council will own our county ground. I thought it belonged to us, by us i mean the clubs. surely the clubs would have to be consulted about this
can someone tell me for instance who's  name is on the deeds on N I land registry
do we have more  legal claim to casement than the ulster council or croke park
I wouldn't be to happy if those sh..heads have signed over any ownership without briefing all the clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 11, 2014, 10:59:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
Jeez, I've been saying this all along. Yes, the new stadium will be owned & under the total control of Ulster GAA. We are giving away a site worth God knows how many millions for £0.00.

The names on the deeds, to my knowledge were Edward McMahon (Milky Bar) and Pat Hasson from Rasharkin.

I imagine (though I'm not sure) that it has been signed over to the Ulster Council at this stage.

f**king unbelievable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
Jeez, I've been saying this all along. Yes, the new stadium will be owned & under the total control of Ulster GAA. We are giving away a site worth God knows how many millions for £0.00.

The names on the deeds, to my knowledge were Edward McMahon (Milky Bar) and Pat Hasson from Rasharkin.

I imagine (though I'm not sure) that it has been signed over to the Ulster Council at this stage.

that's fair enough if your not sure, but MC Mahon and Pat Hasson do not own casement they are trustees
I'm not an lawyer and not to sure if these two can sign over casement to anybody as they don't own it
if it is the case then the committees we have running our clubs either haven't been informed or have been misled which is illegal in my view

the whole thing stinks to high heaven and i can understand N I executive not trusting a clown like our chairmen and his cronies with 70 odd mill and letting the ulster council handle it with a hand from croke park but who the f..k said they could sign it over without consulting the clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
It is symptomatic of all the problems this development has had from the beginning.

Rush it through, it'll be grand.

Residents - to hell with them.
Social club - put a sign on the door saying it's closed.
Site ownership - aye, just sign it over.

Procedure, consultation etc are not in their minds.

As for not consulting the clubs- our clubs have been treated disgracefully. Certainly in regards to the debacle with the social club. Our clubs were told that the social club owed the county £36000. Our county executive asked for a vote to be taken whether or not the county should take the social club to court. Clubs voted yes (which is fair enough).

What our clubs weren't told was
a) the £36000 was plucked from the sky. Indeed, you could knock about £30000 off that bill for a more realistic value.
b) on two occasions, the committee of the social club asked for an itemised bill which the county refused to provide.

At the end if it all, the social club didn't have to pay £36000 to the county but, sure, it wasn't our county executive who decided to take the social club to court, it was the clubs in Antrim.

The clubs are completely duped.

yes yes I know the clubs where hoodwinked and the whole social club affair was a farce grounded on lies. but with the individuals involved are you really supprised
but signing over OUR grounds is a completely different ball game
I'm going to ask our chairman on this matter at the first opportunity to see how much the clubs have been informed

there seems to be people within ulster council and antrim that have lost the run of themselves about what they can actually do by law
its one thing alienating club members and clubs through bad management on all fronts but they cant turn round and giveaway something that doesn't belong to them

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on September 12, 2014, 12:07:11 AM
Could be an interesting Antrim AGM in December if there's not an EGM beforehand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 11:54:51 PM
So, you thought all along that Antrim would continue to own Casement Park?

No, sure, ffs the rest of the counties would go up the wall that we are getting this money from ni executive.
So Ulster Council decided that a land grab would be the best bet.

the rest of the ulster counties have their county grounds for there various championship finals etc. I cant see any of them signing them over to achieve provincial status and quite rightly so
Just because clones gets an ulster final doesn't mean monaghan had to sign it over

I had the seemingly naive view that Antrim owned the place and that appropriate county activity would be as before
ulster council had access to the venue for ulster finals and the like and whatever commercial revenue that was generated there was under there control also

now if you told me  the county executive had sold casement to the ulster council for an amount that could finish the dunsilly project and that was our new county grounds then maybe i could stomach that. If it was ratified by the clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 12, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
It is symptomatic of all the problems this development has had from the beginning.

Rush it through, it'll be grand.

Residents - to hell with them.
Social club - put a sign on the door saying it's closed.
Site ownership - aye, just sign it over.

Procedure, consultation etc are not in their minds.

As for not consulting the clubs- our clubs have been treated disgracefully. Certainly in regards to the debacle with the social club. Our clubs were told that the social club owed the county £36000. Our county executive asked for a vote to be taken whether or not the county should take the social club to court. Clubs voted yes (which is fair enough).

What our clubs weren't told was
a) the £36000 was plucked from the sky. Indeed, you could knock about £30000 off that bill for a more realistic value.
b) on two occasions, the committee of the social club asked for an itemised bill which the county refused to provide.

At the end if it all, the social club didn't have to pay £36000 to the county but, sure, it wasn't our county executive who decided to take the social club to court, it was the clubs in Antrim.

The clubs are completely duped.

yes yes I know the clubs where hoodwinked and the whole social club affair was a farce grounded on lies. but with the individuals involved are you really supprised
but signing over OUR grounds is a completely different ball game
I'm going to ask our chairman on this matter at the first opportunity to see how much the clubs have been informed

there seems to be people within ulster council and antrim that have lost the run of themselves about what they can actually do by law
its one thing alienating club members and clubs through bad management on all fronts but they cant turn round and giveaway something that doesn't belong to them


I feel like I've logged into 2013 FFs not just that we're talking about the same points but the fact that some people still didn't know after all this debate that we will no longer have a county ground.


Apart from maybe the first year (for show) our underage teams, school teams and colleges will never see the inside of this stadium,    And our county teams Will be lucky to get more than one run out a year

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 12, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
It is symptomatic of all the problems this development has had from the beginning.

Rush it through, it'll be grand.

Residents - to hell with them.
Social club - put a sign on the door saying it's closed.
Site ownership - aye, just sign it over.

Procedure, consultation etc are not in their minds.

As for not consulting the clubs- our clubs have been treated disgracefully. Certainly in regards to the debacle with the social club. Our clubs were told that the social club owed the county £36000. Our county executive asked for a vote to be taken whether or not the county should take the social club to court. Clubs voted yes (which is fair enough).

What our clubs weren't told was
a) the £36000 was plucked from the sky. Indeed, you could knock about £30000 off that bill for a more realistic value.
b) on two occasions, the committee of the social club asked for an itemised bill which the county refused to provide.

At the end if it all, the social club didn't have to pay £36000 to the county but, sure, it wasn't our county executive who decided to take the social club to court, it was the clubs in Antrim.

The clubs are completely duped.

yes yes I know the clubs where hoodwinked and the whole social club affair was a farce grounded on lies. but with the individuals involved are you really supprised
but signing over OUR grounds is a completely different ball game
I'm going to ask our chairman on this matter at the first opportunity to see how much the clubs have been informed

there seems to be people within ulster council and antrim that have lost the run of themselves about what they can actually do by law
its one thing alienating club members and clubs through bad management on all fronts but they cant turn round and giveaway something that doesn't belong to them


I feel like I've logged into 2013 FFs not just that we're talking about the same points but the fact that some people still didn't know after all this debate that we will no longer have a county ground.


Apart from maybe the first year (for show) our underage teams, school teams and colleges will never see the inside of this stadium,    And our county teams Will be lucky to get more than one run out a year

apologies gizzy I must have been of the boards at that time and i didn't realise that if you missed it the first time round then the topic was null and void.

we can get through this without your input I'm sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 12, 2014, 12:42:10 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 12, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2014, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
It is symptomatic of all the problems this development has had from the beginning.

Rush it through, it'll be grand.

Residents - to hell with them.
Social club - put a sign on the door saying it's closed.
Site ownership - aye, just sign it over.

Procedure, consultation etc are not in their minds.

As for not consulting the clubs- our clubs have been treated disgracefully. Certainly in regards to the debacle with the social club. Our clubs were told that the social club owed the county £36000. Our county executive asked for a vote to be taken whether or not the county should take the social club to court. Clubs voted yes (which is fair enough).

What our clubs weren't told was
a) the £36000 was plucked from the sky. Indeed, you could knock about £30000 off that bill for a more realistic value.
b) on two occasions, the committee of the social club asked for an itemised bill which the county refused to provide.

At the end if it all, the social club didn't have to pay £36000 to the county but, sure, it wasn't our county executive who decided to take the social club to court, it was the clubs in Antrim.

The clubs are completely duped.

yes yes I know the clubs where hoodwinked and the whole social club affair was a farce grounded on lies. but with the individuals involved are you really supprised
but signing over OUR grounds is a completely different ball game
I'm going to ask our chairman on this matter at the first opportunity to see how much the clubs have been informed

there seems to be people within ulster council and antrim that have lost the run of themselves about what they can actually do by law
its one thing alienating club members and clubs through bad management on all fronts but they cant turn round and giveaway something that doesn't belong to them


I feel like I've logged into 2013 FFs not just that we're talking about the same points but the fact that some people still didn't know after all this debate that we will no longer have a county ground.


Apart from maybe the first year (for show) our underage teams, school teams and colleges will never see the inside of this stadium,    And our county teams Will be lucky to get more than one run out a year

apologies gizzy I must have been of the boards at that time and i didn't realise that if you missed it the first time round then the topic was null and void.

we can get through this without your input I'm sure


And your arrogance also could be done without
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
and so could yours in assuming that every single Antrim supporter has been provided with the in-depth facts of the dealings at casement park.

I didn't know that we had, as hardstation says, signed over casement to the ulster council for nothing. im astounded that this has happened.

as the man says, the clubs have been duped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 12, 2014, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Too late taking your breeks down after you've shit yourself lads.

How did you think this would pan out?

Ulster Council and Croke Park stumping up all the £€ on the GAA side of the deal, to hand over a brand new spanking stadium to Antrim Co Board to do as they pleased with, naive wouldn't come into it.

I keep telling people that these paid secretaries are under the control of the Ulster council and not the clubs in the county they are meant to be serving.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 09:45:05 AM
assuming the court ruling goes against the stadium plan and they have go back to the drawing board so to speak how long will that be a delay in the process?

im involved in this type of work (architecture) and to be honest im surprised that the stadium was allowed to be approved through planning. starving a neighbour of natural day light is something which planning will query even for putting a rear extension to your own house. if it does so then they can make you change your design. the residents may well have an actual case here if this was ignored.

that being said croke park is plopped in amongst houses and it seems to work. maybe the closer proximity of casement to the houses along the terrace side and motorway end is that much tighter.

traffic concerns are not so much of a factor as its in the city and traffic runs constantly all day around the ground. parking at the new ground for me is a major concern, how the DRD roads felt the ground could accommodate 35k people around this area and park safely is odd.

I have had houses take longer (and with more problems) to get approval. this development was rushed through and others have stated. the whole things a ballax
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 12, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
Disaster!  Cant find the words to explain it!

As bannside said - 'out of their depth'!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
It is the job of GAA officials to do this yes - but thats not what I am talking about! I specifically said its their role in pushing agendas which are self-serving. Be it using the GAA to cuddle up to political quangos for extra cash or kudos or pushing the Casement debacle.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED GAA OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those GAA officials who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the GAA figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify! They use and abuse their GAA positions for their own ends. Shameful on those who allow it as much as they who do it! COuldnt be futher from our Volunteers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on September 12, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL  who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Is there anyone in particular this is aimed at?????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
It is the job of GAA officials to do this yes - but thats not what I am talking about! I specifically said its their role in pushing agendas which are self-serving. Be it using the GAA to cuddle up to political quangos for extra cash or kudos or pushing the Casement debacle.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED GAA OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those GAA officials who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the GAA figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify! They use and abuse their GAA positions for their own ends. Shameful on those who allow it as much as they who do it! COuldnt be futher from our Volunteers!

I think your use of the word 'Slandering' should have given you a hint while writing your post, that you were on the wrong track.

If you had read my post correctly, I said that 'a lot' of the money comes from governments whether that be in terms of investment directly into the GAA or through Irish Sports Council, yes GAA contributes a heck of alot back to the community as a whole, but they are by no means without government aid, north or south of the border. Nor should they be with the significant impact that it has both sides of the border.

Again on the salaried officials, they are doing a job which we as an organisation pay them to do. Without these roles we would not be the organisation that we are today. We need these people to be on these 'quangos' so that the GAA remains at the forefront. We need them working with politicians so that we are a strong relevant organisation. I take your point that some of them maybe self serving, but you get that in every walk of life, do not tar those all with the same brush. As we are the organisation we are today, with the help of those paid officials as well as the every day volunteers like ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 12, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on September 12, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL  who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Is there anyone in particular this is aimed at?????????

I'm just going to throw it out there............... Do we all blame Jim Murray for this mess. I don't know the man and never met him but he's the head huncho, surely he must take responsibility for this mess. Is he the guy that is trying to further himself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on September 12, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL  who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Is there anyone in particular this is aimed at?????????

I left out an (S) for plural - and like I say they are not hard to identify!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
It is the job of GAA officials to do this yes - but thats not what I am talking about! I specifically said its their role in pushing agendas which are self-serving. Be it using the GAA to cuddle up to political quangos for extra cash or kudos or pushing the Casement debacle.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED GAA OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those GAA officials who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the GAA figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify! They use and abuse their GAA positions for their own ends. Shameful on those who allow it as much as they who do it! COuldnt be futher from our Volunteers!

I think your use of the word 'Slandering' should have given you a hint while writing your post, that you were on the wrong track.

I used slandering as tongue in cheek as you clealry took issue with my comments.

If you had read my post correctly, I said that 'a lot' of the money comes from governments whether that be in terms of investment directly into the GAA or through Irish Sports Council, yes GAA contributes a heck of alot back to the community as a whole, but they are by no means without government aid, north or south of the border. Nor should they be with the significant impact that it has both sides of the border.

Aid? Aid is what is sent to 3rd world countries.
The grants are what the GAA clubs and their communities are entitled to like any other entity.
It is not aid. And they money is more than value added.

Again on the salaried officials, they are doing a job which we as an organisation pay them to do. Without these roles we would not be the organisation that we are today. We need these people to be on these 'quangos' so that the GAA remains at the forefront. We need them working with politicians so that we are a strong relevant organisation. I take your point that some of them maybe self serving, but you get that in every walk of life, do not tar those all with the same brush. As we are the organisation we are today, with the help of those paid officials as well as the every day volunteers like ourselves.

I don't get what part of this you are missing. I have no problem with them doing the jobs they are paid to do.
But I take serious issue with them using their role to further their own ends. We most certainly do not need to be represented on political bodies or quangos.
Read your official guide.
The GAA is a non-political organisation.
We cannot complain about being compared to the Orange Order when our paid officials are routinely to be found at Stormont or the Policing Board and indeed party political conferences. They are not there because of a personal capacity - they are there as GAA representitives and they are there because they have put themselves there.
They have abused positions in our Association for their own gain and that is plain to see in the Casement debacle also.
Stuff ordinary members, stuff residents, stuff the social club, stuff the lot - me and my mates in Stormont need a photoshoot. And I need another nest egg with a comfertable number on a quango. A price worth paying eh - no thanks.

And as if I need to say it again - this is a million miles from our Volunteers and that ethos.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2014, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: cfclg on September 12, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on September 12, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
At least people are now becoming aware of the deceit and lies that are sweeping the GAA away from ordinary members - I mean aware in general across the county not this board which is of course a tiny snapshot!
The trend is the same across Ireland as we've seen over the Sky deal and booking Croke Park for American Football etc.

So the next time you see a nice little photoshoot of a GAA (paid & salaried) official cuddling up with politicians - be aware and be afraid!
We are about sport and culture, not our officials using our Asssociation to further themselves and politics!

Where do you think alot of the money comes from for the Association?
Our officials wouldnt be doing their job on behalf of the organisation if they were lobbying politicians for more money and help on the relevant issues of the day. The fact that politicians use this for furthering their own careers is a price that has to be paid.

What absolute nonsense! Complete nonsense!
Do you think for one second we rely on handouts from Government to pay for the GAA?
Unlike others, out Association has stood on its own financial feet for well over 100years!
The gate receipts, the fundraisers, the concerts in a Croke park and elsewhere which we built ourselves, the membership subscriptions and even the players insurance (doesnt exist in otehr sports) - we are self financing! Always have been!
Even the grants from the Free State for the Croker development have been shown to have been more than paid back in VAT and increased income to the exchequer.
I find it incredulous that any Gael would believe we need government handouts to survive!

Of course our officials have a job to do in reseraching and availing of community and government grants - but GAA clubs are entitled to that like any other entity which benefits the community aspect.
And I may be idealist - but being used by politicians is not a price which has to be paid! Stand up man! Our Association should not be prostituting itself at others behest!

I would say 99% of the officials that we have go into their post with the up most belief that they are doing this to help the overall association. Like any organisation there are going to be the few who tarnish this type of volunteer effort but we should not let this cloud the work that is carried out across the country by volunteers. There is a serious difference between a paid official and one doing it for the good of their club, county, province and association as a whole.

Is this for real?
The not so subtle difference between the volunteer spending hours in his local club, and the PAID & SALARIED OFFICIAL  who spends his hours networking with government quangos to further his own needs!
There is the difference!
Nobody mentioned the volunteers - I was slandering those people who we pay for, who use their jobs (our jobs) to further their own ends! Look at the figures who stood over the Casement development, look at the figures you see in the photoshoots, they are not hard to identify!
Is there anyone in particular this is aimed at?????????

I'm just going to throw it out there............... Do we all blame Jim Murray for this mess. I don't know the man and never met him but he's the head huncho, surely he must take responsibility for this mess. Is he the guy that is trying to further himself?

He's I blame him and the county board
Signing over our grounds that don't belong to him but the clubs
If what hardstation says is correct that we signed it over for nothing and we need funds for dunsilly is pathetic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 12, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
Knock it on the head. This is a hurling thread. Lot of experts on everything on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.

OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.
Ok I will keep it shorter.
OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
Have you ever heard of Garth Brooks? Sitting on Policing Boards? None of this marrying with politics is in a personal capacity - becuse they have no personal capacity - its as a result of their GAA positions.
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?
Yet again, getting grants I've no problem with.
We are entitled to them.
Rough riding over Gaels for personal gain is not what they are paid for.
But that its what's happening - do you think everything our paid officals do is related to getting us grants?!
Really? You really believe that?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

I've said already the guys in question in Ulster Council in particular are not hard to spot. They advertise it themselves.

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

Its a responsibilty to network? With whom? To what end?

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?

Read my posts if they are not too long!
Simple version - they are bringing themselves into the political arena for their own benefit - and using our GAA paid roles to do so. We are routinely compared to the Orange Order - and why not? We network in the same circles nowadays! Some people even think its our duty to network! Oh yeah - they are just getting our grants for us. Great lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2014, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.
Ok I will keep it shorter.
OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
Have you ever heard of Garth Brooks?
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?
Yet again, getting grants I've no problem with.
We are entitled to them.
Rough riding over Gaels for personal gain is not what they are paid for.
But they its what's happening - do you think everything our paid officals do is related to getting us grants?!
Really? You really believe that?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

I've said already the guys in question in Ulster Council in particular are not hard to spot. They advertise it themselves.

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

Its a responsibilty to network? With whom? To what end?

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?

Read my posts if they are not too long!
Simple version - they are bringing themselves into the political arena for their own benefit - and using our GAA paid roles to do so. We are routinely compared to the Orange Order - and why not? We network in the same circles nowadays! Some people even think its our duty to network! Oh yeah - they are just getting our grants for us. Great lads.

The above is an overly simplistic view that is significantly out of touch with reality.

To think that we just go about our business and the Irish / British government will rock up with money as we're entitled as an association is naive (being polite) and utterly ridiculous (more realistic).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.
Ok I will keep it shorter.
OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
Have you ever heard of Garth Brooks? Sitting on Policing Boards? None of this marrying with politics is in a personal capacity - becuse they have no personal capacity - its as a result of their GAA positions.
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?
Yet again, getting grants I've no problem with.
We are entitled to them.
Rough riding over Gaels for personal gain is not what they are paid for.
But that its what's happening - do you think everything our paid officals do is related to getting us grants?!
Really? You really believe that?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

I've said already the guys in question in Ulster Council in particular are not hard to spot. They advertise it themselves.

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

Its a responsibilty to network? With whom? To what end?

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?

Read my posts if they are not too long!
Simple version - they are bringing themselves into the political arena for their own benefit - and using our GAA paid roles to do so. We are routinely compared to the Orange Order - and why not? We network in the same circles nowadays! Some people even think its our duty to network! Oh yeah - they are just getting our grants for us. Great lads.

I am trying to have a decent debate here but if you keep going to the lowest denominator then its hard to have a discussion.

What has Garth Brooks got to do with it? That was a private promoter and a other business interests hiring our stadium?
The GAA are involved in a road safety campaign for our members, that was the networking with the PSNI?

No grants and applications are not the only role but they are significant without these monies, the programmes that the GAA run across loads of different issues simply would not happen.

Networking with politicians and other stake holders in the sporting/ business world is essential for a modern organisation. How is that not obvious?

Riding roughshod over Gaels? Im confused on this one, if you are referring to the Casement issue, I would suggest that you go back to the beginning anf see the genesis of the Casement project and it falling out of the Maze project which fell through. And try to understand who it was that pushed for it and where the pressures came from. They were all external to the GAA.

We are being compared to the OO because of a defined public strategy by the Unionist/ Loyalists, this is by no means new but is just slightly more organised. This has nothing to do with salaried officials or volunteers, its a clear strategy on their behalf.

I for one am confident enough in our association to laugh off the comparison to the OO and I would rather continue the work of developing the GAA for the future than looking back to the days when the OO ruled the show, we are now dealing from a position of strength and they are the weak ones. Not hard to see but obviously hard to understand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 12, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
Knock it on the head. This is a hurling thread. Lot of experts on everything on here.

It is getting a bit if course , I don't know enough about county quangos, jobs for the boys and politics and the like and it's a different subject
But to hand over total ownership of casement to ulster council will have an impact on where county finals are played and do we have a county grounds etc and warrants a discussion on this thread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 12:54:35 PM
the theme on the thread has now summed the image up of Private Frazer from dads army - 'we're all doooooomed!' lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 12, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
To the hills...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.
Ok I will keep it shorter.
OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
Have you ever heard of Garth Brooks? Sitting on Policing Boards? None of this marrying with politics is in a personal capacity - becuse they have no personal capacity - its as a result of their GAA positions.
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?
Yet again, getting grants I've no problem with.
We are entitled to them.
Rough riding over Gaels for personal gain is not what they are paid for.
But that its what's happening - do you think everything our paid officals do is related to getting us grants?!
Really? You really believe that?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

I've said already the guys in question in Ulster Council in particular are not hard to spot. They advertise it themselves.

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

Its a responsibilty to network? With whom? To what end?

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?

Read my posts if they are not too long!
Simple version - they are bringing themselves into the political arena for their own benefit - and using our GAA paid roles to do so. We are routinely compared to the Orange Order - and why not? We network in the same circles nowadays! Some people even think its our duty to network! Oh yeah - they are just getting our grants for us. Great lads.

I am trying to have a decent debate here but if you keep going to the lowest denominator then its hard to have a discussion.

Not sure what you mean about lowest common denominator.

What has Garth Brooks got to do with it? That was a private promoter and a other business interests hiring our stadium?
The GAA are involved in a road safety campaign for our members, that was the networking with the PSNI?

The GAA hierarchy pushed Garth Brooks in cahoots with some politicians (my comments were never restricted to Ulster) in an attempt to generate money and disregard law & residents & other gaels.
No problem with Road Safety? Why would I? I'm not against liaising - I'm against it being done for personal promotion and benefit.

No grants and applications are not the only role but they are significant without these monies, the programmes that the GAA run across loads of different issues simply would not happen.

Networking with politicians and other stake holders in the sporting/ business world is essential for a modern organisation. How is that not obvious?

See above.

Riding roughshod over Gaels? Im confused on this one, if you are referring to the Casement issue, I would suggest that you go back to the beginning anf see the genesis of the Casement project and it falling out of the Maze project which fell through. And try to understand who it was that pushed for it and where the pressures came from. They were all external to the GAA.

We are being compared to the OO because of a defined public strategy by the Unionist/ Loyalists, this is by no means new but is just slightly more organised. This has nothing to do with salaried officials or volunteers, its a clear strategy on their behalf.

I for one am confident enough in our association to laugh off the comparison to the OO and I would rather continue the work of developing the GAA for the future than looking back to the days when the OO ruled the show, we are now dealing from a position of strength and they are the weak ones. Not hard to see but obviously hard to understand.

Well on that we can agree to disagree.
If you think there was no external or polticial movement behind Casement, and this was in conjunction with our paid officials - thats grand. Flat earth stuff if you ask me, but your enititled to your opinion.

I know the GAA is totally different to the Orange Order - but I know and work with many who don't. And the willingness of our paid officials to take high profile roles in political quangos and flirt with Stormont does nothing to alleviate this. They take the roles - its nothing to do with the efforts of unionists / loyalists.

And as a non-paid volunteer I also continue to work to make the GAA strong - in sport, culture, and community - but not politics.

Lastly - to anyone fed up with this thread - sorry but NAG and I were debating it so just skip on if you don't want to read!

Back to the hurling then eh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
btdtgtt

I hate those messages that turn into half a page.
Ok I will keep it shorter.
OK few questions -
How do you think the association is prostituting itself by networking with politicians?
Have you ever heard of Garth Brooks? Sitting on Policing Boards? None of this marrying with politics is in a personal capacity - becuse they have no personal capacity - its as a result of their GAA positions.
How do you think that GAA avails of these Government Grants? Do the applications do themselves?
Or because we are 'entitled' to them the governments just rock up at the offices with brief cases of money?
Yet again, getting grants I've no problem with.
We are entitled to them.
Rough riding over Gaels for personal gain is not what they are paid for.
But that its what's happening - do you think everything our paid officals do is related to getting us grants?!
Really? You really believe that?

If you think think this salaried official, is not doing the job he is paid for then name him, surely making such a statement means you have plenty of evidence to back up your claim?

I've said already the guys in question in Ulster Council in particular are not hard to spot. They advertise it themselves.

Is it not the responsibility of every salaried official to network? I for one dont think they would be doing their job very well if they didnt.

Its a responsibilty to network? With whom? To what end?

If they arent hard to identify then lets here who you think they are and what they have done wrong?

Read my posts if they are not too long!
Simple version - they are bringing themselves into the political arena for their own benefit - and using our GAA paid roles to do so. We are routinely compared to the Orange Order - and why not? We network in the same circles nowadays! Some people even think its our duty to network! Oh yeah - they are just getting our grants for us. Great lads.

I am trying to have a decent debate here but if you keep going to the lowest denominator then its hard to have a discussion.

Not sure what you mean about lowest common denominator.

What has Garth Brooks got to do with it? That was a private promoter and a other business interests hiring our stadium?
The GAA are involved in a road safety campaign for our members, that was the networking with the PSNI?

The GAA hierarchy pushed Garth Brooks in cahoots with some politicians (my comments were never restricted to Ulster) in an attempt to generate money and disregard law & residents & other gaels.
No problem with Road Safety? Why would I? I'm not against liaising - I'm against it being done for personal promotion and benefit.

No grants and applications are not the only role but they are significant without these monies, the programmes that the GAA run across loads of different issues simply would not happen.

Networking with politicians and other stake holders in the sporting/ business world is essential for a modern organisation. How is that not obvious?

See above.

Riding roughshod over Gaels? Im confused on this one, if you are referring to the Casement issue, I would suggest that you go back to the beginning anf see the genesis of the Casement project and it falling out of the Maze project which fell through. And try to understand who it was that pushed for it and where the pressures came from. They were all external to the GAA.

We are being compared to the OO because of a defined public strategy by the Unionist/ Loyalists, this is by no means new but is just slightly more organised. This has nothing to do with salaried officials or volunteers, its a clear strategy on their behalf.

I for one am confident enough in our association to laugh off the comparison to the OO and I would rather continue the work of developing the GAA for the future than looking back to the days when the OO ruled the show, we are now dealing from a position of strength and they are the weak ones. Not hard to see but obviously hard to understand.

Well on that we can agree to disagree.
If you think there was no external or polticial movement behind Casement, and this was in conjunction with our paid officials - thats grand. Flat earth stuff if you ask me, but your enititled to your opinion.

I know the GAA is totally different to the Orange Order - but I know and work with many who don't. And the willingness of our paid officials to take high profile roles in political quangos and flirt with Stormont does nothing to alleviate this. They take the roles - its nothing to do with the efforts of unionists / loyalists.

And as a non-paid volunteer I also continue to work to make the GAA strong - in sport, culture, and community - but not politics.

Lastly - to anyone fed up with this thread - sorry but NAG and I were debating it so just skip on if you don't want to read!

Back to the hurling then eh.

I will end this on one final point because this is starting to bore even me at this point, the driving force behind Casement was 100% political. The GAA had no say in the fact that they were being given a stadium of some description. Take a look back at at my posts I stated all the pressures for the stadium were external to the GAA from the outset. Now go back and take a look at how the 3 stadiums came about and you will see the cause for it.

End of.

Championship this weekend.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 12, 2014, 03:00:59 PM
We're out in the championship tomorrow evening ourselves against the Ports.

Neither team is going particularly well as league positions would suggest, they beat us well at their place and more recently we beat them well at our place, not a lot to be read into either game IMHO.

If anything the small tight pitch in Ballycran will work in their favour as we're the smaller, quicker team (without El Magico) and that may mask the lack of pace through the centre of their team.
We in all likelihood will be fielding at least 4 lads still minor, and hopefully they'll show up well and give us some hope for the immediate future as we're looking at a year in Div2 in Antrim so time to blood them and let them at it. Tomorrow evening is about three years too soon, but we are where we are and give it a good rattle.

Ballycran are doing things in a big way this year, both the wing and Mickey Johnston down coaching them as they really fancy a run at the Ulster campaign and with Loughgeil out of the way won't fear any of the four teams left in Antrim.
I think they'll be hoping for us to win tomorrow as the Ports are their bogey team for whatever reason as long as I can remember.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
what ive seen over the past lot of years in Down is that the team whos going well and looks the best generally doesn't win it!

ballycran have went well this year though the danger is they have peaked too early. they looked much sharper than our boys earlier this season in the league and although it was a wet day they won by a few points. the return game we were minus 12 players due to weddings/holidays etc. so they won handy.

Portaferry are always tough in the championship but yous having nothing to lose this year theres no pressure so the lads can have a bash at it and see how they go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 12, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
what ive seen over the past lot of years in Down is that the team whos going well and looks the best generally doesn't win it!

ballycran have went well this year though the danger is they have peaked too early. they looked much sharper than our boys earlier this season in the league and although it was a wet day they won by a few points. the return game we were minus 12 players due to weddings/holidays etc. so they won handy.

Portaferry are always tough in the championship but yous having nothing to lose this year theres no pressure so the lads can have a bash at it and see how they go

That would be my take on it as well, certainly if I was involved with the management I'd be telling our lads there's no expectation on them, take the pressure off and give it all you've got. Ports aren't much better than us and beating them would be a nice surprise, but if it doesn't happen and the lads have given their all then there are no complaints.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
ballygalget have been on a bad slide this past few years. maybe a year in div2 wouldn't do them any harm. its pretty competitive at the moment in that league plus it didn't do ballycran any harm a few years back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 12, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?

I'll go Carey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?

aye us beating Cushendall!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 12, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?

aye us beating Cushendall!  ;D

Carey definitely the ones to watch, wouldn't be that big a surprise either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
I definitely give carey a shot - and not sure Rossa will relish hitting the road to the glens.

On paper cushendall have too much for Dunloy - but again championship encourages teams to step up a level. Dunloy know how to do that!
I'm going to make my way up for this game. Can't wait for the parking adventure!

Glenarrife have far too much for armoy.

Again on paper I don't see anything other than a st galls win - over the 15 positions I feel they have more physical and seasoned competitors.
MR2 might have to wait until next year to ref the final!

And on that note - let's hope the best team wins every game without any questions over the man in the middle ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 12, 2014, 09:55:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 12, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?

aye us beating Cushendall!  ;D

Carey definitely the ones to watch, wouldn't be that big a surprise either.
Exactly. We played twice in the league. We drew at Carey and we beat them at our place - 6-10 to 2-15. That is a rare scoreline but as you can tell there is very little between us.

Rossa are serious hot favs in this game, I wish we were playing Carey rather than Sarsfields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 12, 2014, 11:58:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 12, 2014, 09:55:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 12, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
I've had a deep breath:

If there's to be a shock (big or small) this weekend - where do people see it coming?

aye us beating Cushendall!  ;D

Carey definitely the ones to watch, wouldn't be that big a surprise either.
Exactly. We played twice in the league. We drew at Carey and we beat them at our place - 6-10 to 2-15. That is a rare scoreline but as you can tell there is very little between us.

Rossa are serious hot favs in this game, I wish we were playing Carey rather than Sarsfields

I'm not just saying St Galls but I don't think any of the 4 teams on your side of the senior hurling  draw can complain. You know a draw has been good to you when your wish to have drawn another team means you have to look at the grade below.

Fancy Galls by a goal or two.
Dall n Dunloy to go ET with Dall winning by 3pts AET
Rossa by 6pts
Armoy to beat Glenarrif by single pt
glenravel by 5 pts
Glenarm by 10+

Hope there is a great weekend of hurling ahead with weather looking good I hope people come out and support their respective clubs with neutrals also. It's the least all players involved this weekend deserve giving up plenty of time this year and many b4 to serve up weekends like this.

Enjoy


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 12:27:26 AM
Wish all games could be attended tomorrow, as I would love to watch all 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 09:06:01 AM
Well this is it. May the best teams win and we are talking about the how good the games were and not the referee for a change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Dunloy or Cushendall's reserves wouldn't even be worried about playing us....... ;)

Poor match, I suppose we could improve but we just done enough to get over the line which won't cut the mustard.

On another note, it's our first county final appearance as a club of over 100 years. Fair play to all involved. Heads down and put the effort in these final couple of weeks and who knows......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Dunloy or Cushendall's reserves wouldn't even be worried about playing us....... ;)

Poor match, I suppose we could improve but we just done enough to get over the line which won't cut the mustard.

On another note, it's our first county final appearance as a club of over 100 years. Fair play to all involved. Heads down and put the effort in these final couple of weeks and who knows......

what was the score dude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Dunloy or Cushendall's reserves wouldn't even be worried about playing us....... ;)

Poor match, I suppose we could improve but we just done enough to get over the line which won't cut the mustard.

On another note, it's our first county final appearance as a club of over 100 years. Fair play to all involved. Heads down and put the effort in these final couple of weeks and who knows......

what was the score dude

0-14 to 0-12  :-\

Oh and Conor Cunning had a great game, well done, wasn't much really to officiate over to be fair, any cards handed out were justified
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armoy won 5-17 to 4-16, not a massive surprise to me !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armoy won 5-17 to 4-16, not a massive surprise to me !

Well it's a shock, div 3 team winning over a decent div 2 team is shock enough, had Sarsfields beat us tonight I'd have been shocked and mortified if I'm being honest.

Rossa won by 8 and heard there was a bit of a digging match afterwards maybe Hardstation could enlighten us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on September 13, 2014, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armoy won 5-17 to 4-16, not a massive surprise to me !

Well it's a shock, div 3 team winning over a decent div 2 team is shock enough, had Sarsfields beat us tonight I'd have been shocked and mortified if I'm being honest.

Rossa won by 8 and heard there was a bit of a digging match afterwards maybe Hardstation could enlighten us

Few handbags in 2nd half, nothing serious. No row after the game either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
ballygalget have been on a bad slide this past few years. maybe a year in div2 wouldn't do them any harm. its pretty competitive at the moment in that league plus it didn't do ballycran any harm a few years back

And that slide continued apace tonight 2-23 to 1-8 in favour of the ports. As much as they were the better team we made a lot of rods for our own backs with poor first touch and handling throughout.

IMO a small lad needs a damn good first touch as they'll always lose out in contact which happened us time and time again tonight and resulted in numerous scores against us. Ports were handy enough but may struggle on a full size pitch. Crans still favourites in my mind although a few around me were very much playing it down.
Hassan did a good job on the whistle and our two lads who got reds can have no complaints.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 13, 2014, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armoy won 5-17 to 4-16, not a massive surprise to me !

Well it's a shock, div 3 team winning over a decent div 2 team is shock enough, had Sarsfields beat us tonight I'd have been shocked and mortified if I'm being honest.

Rossa won by 8 and heard there was a bit of a digging match afterwards maybe Hardstation could enlighten us


called the armoy result as ive seen them a few times and they r a well drilled outfit. Proved me right. Will push rossa also but might fall short. They also are deadly from the placed ball. Cossie dosent miss much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Dunloy or Cushendall's reserves wouldn't even be worried about playing us....... ;)

Poor match, I suppose we could improve but we just done enough to get over the line which won't cut the mustard.

On another note, it's our first county final appearance as a club of over 100 years. Fair play to all involved. Heads down and put the effort in these final couple of weeks and who knows......

what was the score dude

0-14 to 0-12  :-\

Oh and Conor Cunning had a great game, well done, wasn't much really to officiate over to be fair, any cards handed out were justified
#

you mean skinny or colm cunning

connor's younger bro

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Dunloy or Cushendall's reserves wouldn't even be worried about playing us....... ;)

Poor match, I suppose we could improve but we just done enough to get over the line which won't cut the mustard.

On another note, it's our first county final appearance as a club of over 100 years. Fair play to all involved. Heads down and put the effort in these final couple of weeks and who knows......

what was the score dude

0-14 to 0-12  :-\

Oh and Conor Cunning had a great game, well done, wasn't much really to officiate over to be fair, any cards handed out were justified
#

you mean skinny or colm cunning

connor's younger bro

your right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 09:48:32 PM
Milltown Row I respect referees closing shop and you sticking up for your fellow colleagues. I can't respect however when you talk nonsense. Naomh Gall fans were furious with Cunning time and time agsin and in my opinion rightly so. Do you know the free count?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
What odds are Ballycran for ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:09 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 09:48:32 PM
Milltown Row I respect referees closing shop and you sticking up for your fellow colleagues. I can't respect however when you talk nonsense. Naomh Gall fans were furious with Cunning time and time agsin and in my opinion rightly so. Do you know the free count?

We fouled a lot, Sarsfields didn't, not one of my club mates who were with me disagreed, I don't know who you with or where you standing with but from where I was it was the correct decision 95% of the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
What odds are Ballycran for ulster?

Cushendall will hammer them, should they beat Dunloy and us ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
What odds are Ballycran for ulster?

Cushendall will hammer them, should they beat Dunloy and us ;)
no doubt. I'm just wondering what odds they are. I'm not on any betting sites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2014, 10:22:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
What odds are Ballycran for ulster?

Cushendall will hammer them, should they beat Dunloy and us ;)
no doubt. I'm just wondering what odds they are. I'm not on any betting sites.

Don't think you will get odds for Ulster yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
Full back was swinging off your big full forward like a cat. Cunning was afraid to give more than one penalty. The last two frees St. Galls got in the last minute were for nothing. Compensation I think is the term. I would love to hear you just once being honest MR2 instead of closing shop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
Full back was swinging off your big full forward like a cat. Cunning was afraid to give more than one penalty. The last two frees St. Galls got in the last minute were for nothing. Compensation I think is the term. I would love to hear you just once being honest MR2 instead of closing shop.

I've seen the photo of that incident and to be fair if you seen it you'd think again. Now lets get something straight before we move on, I'm not 'closing shop' as you put it. If you have a hang up about referees take it up, put your head on the block and stop talking keek
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
LOL fair enough think we'll agree to disagree! I Ironically find you a very fair and brave referee. Although Think i'll give up on trying to get you to be straight about some of your colleagues' performances. I'll try my best to shut my mouth tomorrow night after attending the junior and senior semi finals.
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Post by: gallsman on September 13, 2014, 11:28:12 PM
Agree with MR, think was called evenly. Perhaps a few soft frees for physicality as we were generally the bigger and stronger side. Karl Stewart cut above anyone else on the field I thought, even if slightly rusty. Some poor decision making at times on both sides.
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:33:23 PM
His catching is impressive. Quare leap on him. St. Galls missed a lot of chances, had a lot of wides. Realistically could have won by 8-10. Yous kept Daniel McKernan very quiet, fair play. Sarsfields unlucky to lose also.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 13, 2014, 11:28:12 PM
Agree with MR, think was called evenly. Perhaps a few soft frees for physicality as we were generally the bigger and stronger side. Karl Stewart cut above anyone else on the field I thought, even if slightly rusty. Some poor decision making at times on both sides.

Yep would agree with that, we'd a lot more options and probably didn't take them, semi finals are cautious affairs, we didn't sit well with the favourites tag that's for sure. I wasn't overly worried but we just didn't put them away while being the dominant team. Played a lot better when Karl came out looking for the ball. Amazing player who'll go through a brick wall for the club
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
He is quick and stylish, I imagine he would make most of the big clubs' teams. Will be interesting to see who comes out of other semi final tomorrow. Think Dunloy would suit you boys more.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
He is quick and stylish, I imagine he would make most of the big clubs' teams. Will be interesting to see who comes out of other semi final tomorrow. Think Dunloy would suit you boys more.

If I had a magic wand, yeah Dunloy would certainly be the best bet for us. Cushendall are a lot slicker than us for sure. Dunloy are a very hard working team with some cracking hurlers. They didn't even get going to beat a hyped up Ballycastle team so maybe something left in the tank for them. Will be a ding dong battle that's for sure
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:57:06 PM
Yeah that game was very flat, I was surprised. I suppose some people may feel the Dall had their final against Loughgiel but still I think they are slight favourites. Hopefully it will be a good game. Strange championship season this year!!!! 
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Post by: keep her low this half on September 13, 2014, 11:59:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Armoy beating Glenariffe handily in extra time  :(

Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armoy won 5-17 to 4-16, not a massive surprise to me !
Well it was a pleasant surprise for me. Great guts and fitness from our lot although Glenariffe had a couple of players who stood up well particularly Mc Killop at midfield and the number 4 ( don't know his name ). For us Rocky + Eamon McCaughan were massive and everyone else emptied the tank. Cossie got a great goal to level the match late on in normal time, Glenariffe faded badly in extra time although the full forward battled well.
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 14, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
Definitely a surprise! Some result. Hate to say it but I think you will find it very tough in the final. Great to see progress being made by a good hurling club.
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Post by: Gizzy15 on September 14, 2014, 12:05:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
He is quick and stylish, I imagine he would make most of the big clubs' teams. Will be interesting to see who comes out of other semi final tomorrow. Think Dunloy would suit you boys more.

If I had a magic wand, yeah Dunloy would certainly be the best bet for us. Cushendall are a lot slicker than us for sure. Dunloy are a very hard working team with some cracking hurlers. They didn't even get going to beat a hyped up Ballycastle team so maybe something left in the tank for them. Will be a ding dong battle that's for sure


Good win today MR2 just checked there and if all goes well in the football you will be the first club to appear in both finals since johnnies in 1986. Would be some feat, last team to win both was again johnnies in 1969. A dual club is hard on the modern player and a lot of your boys would be dual. But just shows that every so often it can be done, but maybe not sustainable. Not having a go just genuinely saying I'm impressed.
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Post by: keep her low this half on September 14, 2014, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 14, 2014, 12:04:27 AM
Definitely a surprise! Some result. Hate to say it but I think you will find it very tough in the final. Great to see progress being made by a good hurling club.
First time in an intermediate final for more than 10 years. I think we will do enough to keep the ball pucked out to Rossa ;)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 14, 2014, 12:05:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 13, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
He is quick and stylish, I imagine he would make most of the big clubs' teams. Will be interesting to see who comes out of other semi final tomorrow. Think Dunloy would suit you boys more.

If I had a magic wand, yeah Dunloy would certainly be the best bet for us. Cushendall are a lot slicker than us for sure. Dunloy are a very hard working team with some cracking hurlers. They didn't even get going to beat a hyped up Ballycastle team so maybe something left in the tank for them. Will be a ding dong battle that's for sure


Good win today MR2 just checked there and if all goes well in the football you will be the first club to appear in both finals since johnnies in 1986. Would be some feat, last team to win both was again johnnies in 1969. A dual club is hard on the modern player and a lot of your boys would be dual. But just shows that every so often it can be done, but maybe not sustainable. Not having a go just genuinely saying I'm impressed.

Yep though in fairness the draw was kind and we beat the teams we were expected to beat by the minimum. I know we will have a different approach now come the final, but its in 2 weeks and we'd need 4 weeks I'd say to sort out a game plan, but sure we'll way in and give it a go, we couldn't be any worse than Cushendall last year ;)
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2014, 11:58:05 AM
10 years since the last time minor & senior titles in both codes were all won by Belfast teams!

Good luck St Galls.

God I was in both clubs that night till 12 the next day if I can remember right!!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 02:49:19 PM
Some fine talent on show in croker today.  ;)
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Jaysus. Young christy is some hurler.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Jaysus. Young christy is some hurler.

score half time analysis
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Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2014, 06:38:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Jaysus. Young christy is some hurler.

score half time analysis
Dall a goal ahead at HT.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Dall 2-08 to 0-08.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
Jaysus. Young christy is some hurler.

score half time analysis
are you forgetting this is me? I don't do reporting.

Currently 2-08 to 0-10
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 06:56:24 PM
10 left. 2-09 to 0-10
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
Dall win. 2-10 to 0-11
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
Dall win. 2-10 to 0-11

We managed 14 scores yesterday!!! Poor return  ;) Double for St Galls
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Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
So all the weekends games went as expected with the exception of Armoy beating Glenariffe. Cushendall to win the final by 5 points again. Any idea when this game will be played?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 14, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
So all the weekends games went as expected with the exception of Armoy beating Glenariffe. Cushendall to win the final by 5 points again. Any idea when this game will be played?

28th I heard
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
Not impressed with either side his evening. Christy is some player. The dall's young fellas were the difference. The final isn't a foregone conclusion.   
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
Not impressed with either side his evening. Christy is some player. The dall's young fellas were the difference. The final isn't a foregone conclusion.

Different teams will bring different results, Cushendall are massive favourites and rightly so, we are just about hanging on in div 1 b and they are doing rightly, beat Dunloy and Loughgiel, we've beat Clooney Gaels and Sarsfields. Anybody tries to play down Cushendall in the next 2 weeks will get a public flogging.

Massive result from the Dall and they have turned a corner, taken 5 years but they should be getting ready to play Ballycran in the Ulster series.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
I don't think anyone would say other than cushendall are huge favourites.
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 14, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
That was a very poor semi final. Zero excitement!
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Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2014, 08:28:42 PM
Worst performance was from the Dunloy crowd. Unbelievably quiet. Its OK to shout some support for your team. Wheres the chicken and wheres the egg?

It was a terrible game. Cushendall more than deserved winners. We really needed everyone to be fit for the game and they weren't. We needed to get an early lead but it didn't happen. We we're very flat in the second half.
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Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 14, 2014, 08:32:23 PM
Nigel and Nicky were non existent!! Your full back is a great player.
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Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
Thought the game was very flat but possibly the tragic passing of that young Camog in Cushendall hampered things.

Cushendall always looked in control and Graffin had the measure of Shorty and no other Dunloy player stepped up. Nattys 2nd goal was the only bright spark on the evening. Duffy had a few dodgy calls but wasn't to bad.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
Thought the game was very flat but possibly the tragic passing of that young Camog in Cushendall hampered things.

Cushendall always looked in control and Graffin had the measure of Shorty and no other Dunloy player stepped up. Nattys 2nd goal was the only bright spark on the evening. Duffy had a few dodgy calls but wasn't to bad.

Was waiting on this report lol. Seems by all accounts he'd a decent game but like the Dunloy Ballycastle game its was also flat so little to officiate over
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 14, 2014, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2014, 08:28:42 PM
Worst performance was from the Dunloy crowd. Unbelievably quiet. Its OK to shout some support for your team. Wheres the chicken and wheres the egg?

It was a terrible game. Chandal more than deserved winners. We really needed everyone to be fit for the game and they weren't. We needed to get an early lead but it didn't happen. We we're very flat in the second half.

yeah very quiet but none less so than the Chandal massive. some very poor decision making and composure
we needed to hit the ground running but Dall's early goal meant we where chasing. as for the match in general I've seen better quality league games this year. maybe its championship nerves

well done to cushendall fully deserved

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Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 14, 2014, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
Thought the game was very flat but possibly the tragic passing of that young Camog in Cushendall hampered things.

Cushendall always looked in control and Graffin had the measure of Shorty and no other Dunloy player stepped up. Nattys 2nd goal was the only bright spark on the evening. Duffy had a few dodgy calls but wasn't to bad.

Was waiting on this report lol. Seems by all accounts he'd a decent game but like the Dunloy Ballycastle game its was also flat so little to officiate over

I thought he did ok, when graffin deliberatly pulled down shorty when he was through one on one i wish he would have had his black card from football with him  :) :)
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Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2014, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 14, 2014, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2014, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2014, 09:19:59 PM
Thought the game was very flat but possibly the tragic passing of that young Camog in Cushendall hampered things.

Cushendall always looked in control and Graffin had the measure of Shorty and no other Dunloy player stepped up. Nattys 2nd goal was the only bright spark on the evening. Duffy had a few dodgy calls but wasn't to bad.

Was waiting on this report lol. Seems by all accounts he'd a decent game but like the Dunloy Ballycastle game its was also flat so little to officiate over

I thought he did ok, when graffin deliberatly pulled down shorty when he was through one on one i wish he would have had his black card from football with him  :) :)
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Haha, the Graffin tackle was as cynical as your likely to ever see.

Changed times with the Loughiel "neutrals" cheering and clapping for Dunloy.

My predictions for the 3 finals.

Senior-- Cushendall to win. St Galls won't be an easy team to bet but i think Cushendall have a point to prove and have the experience also a very good subs bench to call upon.

IHC- Rossa, should have the know how and class to beat Armoy but they can't afford to give Cossy any easy frees.

JHC. Rasharkin.  I think they'll have enough to beat Glenravel although this derby could always suprise
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
we were poor. no complaints at all from me, Cushendall deserved the win but to be fair they were not impressive at all. we shot too many wides, same as the semi final last year between the teams.

we were so flat the entire game. as skull says that's the quietest championship match ive been to. you nearly wanted a loose swing to get the crowd going lol

I didn't understand the cdall fans jeering the ref giving them a free at times, I thought Duffy was grand. a few strange calls and some soft bookings for each team but nothing worth moaning about.

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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
we were poor. no complaints at all from me, Cushendall deserved the win but to be fair they were not impressive at all. we shot too many wides, same as the semi final last year between the teams.

we were so flat the entire game. as skull says that's the quietest championship match ive been to. you nearly wanted a loose swing to get the crowd going lol

I didn't understand the cdall fans jeering the ref giving them a free at times, I thought Duffy was grand. a few strange calls and some soft bookings for each team but nothing worth moaning about.

Would agree with all of that, better team won but Dunloy could of made it more interesting with better shooting.

Has Gareth McGhee packed it in?  I thought your new keeper looked a bit suspect yesterday and against Ballycastle?

Graffin had the measure of Shorty which meant a large proportion of your goal threat was wiped out.  I was standing with the Dunloy supporters and as you say they were very very quiet.  They made a lot more noise against Ballycastle in a game which you never looked like losing which was strange.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2014, 09:42:27 AM
its been a case this year that not many thought we would do anything in the championship. as dick says in the paper we have been rebuilding our team again from the way they play. we don't have the forwards to do the damage.

playing minor b imo has caused us to have a short fall in talent coming through this past number of years. this years minor team has had more U16's in it due to a lack of numbers at that grade. it will take us a few year to get back on top again.

the current U16 team and our u14 team has given me great confidence in our senior teams future. if we can nurture their talents and work them to senior level then I will be a very happy man!
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2014, 10:06:37 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2014, 09:05:59 AM
we were poor. no complaints at all from me, Cushendall deserved the win but to be fair they were not impressive at all. we shot too many wides, same as the semi final last year between the teams.

we were so flat the entire game. as skull says that's the quietest championship match ive been to. you nearly wanted a loose swing to get the crowd going lol

I didn't understand the cdall fans jeering the ref giving them a free at times, I thought Duffy was grand. a few strange calls and some soft bookings for each team but nothing worth moaning about.

Would agree with all of that, better team won but Dunloy could of made it more interesting with better shooting.

Has Gareth McGhee packed it in?  I thought your new keeper looked a bit suspect yesterday and against Ballycastle?

Graffin had the measure of Shorty which meant a large proportion of your goal threat was wiped out.  I was standing with the Dunloy supporters and as you say they were very very quiet.  They made a lot more noise against Ballycastle in a game which you never looked like losing which was strange.
I believe there's been a falling out between Gareth and dick.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 10:18:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2014, 09:42:27 AM
its been a case this year that not many thought we would do anything in the championship. as dick says in the paper we have been rebuilding our team again from the way they play. we don't have the forwards to do the damage.

playing minor b imo has caused us to have a short fall in talent coming through this past number of years. this years minor team has had more U16's in it due to a lack of numbers at that grade. it will take us a few year to get back on top again.

the current U16 team and our u14 team has given me great confidence in our senior teams future. if we can nurture their talents and work them to senior level then I will be a very happy man!

Love the confidence
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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 10:22:26 AM
I would fully expect Cushendall to win the final but they may struggle to get out of Ulster.

Next years championship will be an interesting one and I'd be keen to see how it is priced up.

Cushendall most likely favs.  Dunloy and Ballycastle both with teams at different stages of development, Loughgiel trying to regain their crown and Rossa & St Galls most likely flying the flag for the City men.  Already looking forward to it.
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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
From a Loughgiel perspective it will be interesting to see who takes on the job of managing the team as I think the current management team are stepping aside.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2014, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 10:18:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2014, 09:42:27 AM
its been a case this year that not many thought we would do anything in the championship. as dick says in the paper we have been rebuilding our team again from the way they play. we don't have the forwards to do the damage.

playing minor b imo has caused us to have a short fall in talent coming through this past number of years. this years minor team has had more U16's in it due to a lack of numbers at that grade. it will take us a few year to get back on top again.

the current U16 team and our u14 team has given me great confidence in our senior teams future. if we can nurture their talents and work them to senior level then I will be a very happy man!

Love the confidence

;D
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 10:22:26 AM
I would fully expect Cushendall to win the final but they may struggle to get out of Ulster.

Next years championship will be an interesting one and I'd be keen to see how it is priced up.

Cushendall most likely favs.  Dunloy and Ballycastle both with teams at different stages of development, Loughgiel trying to regain their crown and Rossa & St Galls most likely flying the flag for the City men.  Already looking forward to it.

The Johnnies will get better, they couldn't get any worse. Most clubs bar Dunloy will have new management in place
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
Made it to the Cushendall game yesterday and glad it wasnt just me that thought it lacked real atmosphere - there wasn't any ferocity. Neither team really made me take notice to the extent that the Ballycran lads beside be were happy enough. That said I wouldnt over estimate their chances either. Cushendall are strong in nearly every position more so that Dunloy for me. I thought Graffin v shiels reminded me a bit of Graffin v Watson in that Graffin is really outstanding as a man marker. I don't recall watching anyone really get the better of him. Hes a great asset to the side for jobs like that.
I don't see St Galls producing an upset at all - Cushendall have far too much for them. If they open up I fear it could be the really one sided final that the draw threatened from the outset. Think Galls will be looking a wet day and stop start tussle.

Rossa scoreline suggests they weren't overly troubled but result of the weekend has to be Armoy. I never though for one moment they would be Glenarriffe for who that must be a massive dissapointment?!

Anyone know when are where the finals are?
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
I think there's a double header on saturday in ballymena for the junior / intermediate .

The seniors I'd expect in 2 weeks in ballycastle though that's a guess...
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 01:07:15 PM
Aye more than likely, will suit Cushendall better, would have preferred a tighter pitch in fairness but Ballycastle was a grand setting last year, and hopefully Cushendall put in the same performance  ;)

Graffin won't have to man mark in our game, I think all the tactics will have to come from us to try and stay with Cushendall. Would like to be within 3/4 points on the 50 min mark, just to see.
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Post by: north aontroim gael on September 15, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 15, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
I think there's a double header on saturday in ballymena for the junior / intermediate .

The seniors I'd expect in 2 weeks in ballycastle though that's a guess...

As a neutral I'd much prefer Dunloy or Loughgiel for the senior final but it seems Ballycastle will get the nod.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2014, 01:53:12 PM
dunloy or loughgiel would do me as well but as you say it will end up in ballycastle.
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Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
Loughgiel creates the best atmosphere in my opinion.
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Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Well it'll not be on our pitch....getting drainage work done this week
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Post by: johnneycool on September 15, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
Loughgiel creates the best atmosphere in my opinion.

MR2,

would St Galls carry much support with them?

I'd always had it that West Belfast teams really didn't garner many casual supporters.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 15, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
Loughgiel creates the best atmosphere in my opinion.

MR2,

would St Galls carry much support with them?

I'd always had it that West Belfast teams really didn't garner many casual supporters.

Wasn't a big crowd on Saturday and while the footballers also don't bring a massive crowd (due to fecking winning it every year!!)I'd imagine everybody and their granny will be out to support this final seeing as it's our first in our 100 odd year since being formed.

As for other clubs from Belfast coming down year I'd imagine the novelty of a Belfast team in the final will draw out a lot of neutrals, we aint the worst club in Belfast for neutrals to come and watch. And the county hurling final always brings out the regulars from all the clubs and they will no doubt be supporting us (through gritted teeth)

A lot of the old old timers were down watching on Saturday, they were part of a great team we had in the mid fifties which should have contested a couple of finals but never made the breakthrough and heartbreakingly enough the team that beat them in the semis went on to win handsomely in the final (or so we are lead to believe lol)

To our dual players it's a great feat (should the footballers get to final) to be in both finals in this day and age it's getting harder and harder to do. Only the big Dublin clubs can do this and very rarely will there be a player on both teams. We've 9 or more

It definitely is up their with our centenary year when we got to Croke Park with both teams. Not bad time being involved with the club though I wish this moment (for me personally) was 8/10 years ago :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 15, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 01:58:30 PM
Loughgiel creates the best atmosphere in my opinion.

MR2,

would St Galls carry much support with them?

I'd always had it that West Belfast teams really didn't garner many casual supporters.

Wasn't a big crowd on Saturday and while the footballers also don't bring a massive crowd (due to fecking winning it every year!!)I'd imagine everybody and their granny will be out to support this final seeing as it's our first in our 100 odd year since being formed.

As for other clubs from Belfast coming down year I'd imagine the novelty of a Belfast team in the final will draw out a lot of neutrals, we aint the worst club in Belfast for neutrals to come and watch. And the county hurling final always brings out the regulars from all the clubs and they will no doubt be supporting us (through gritted teeth)

A lot of the old old timers were down watching on Saturday, they were part of a great team we had in the mid fifties which should have contested a couple of finals but never made the breakthrough and heartbreakingly enough the team that beat them in the semis went on to win handsomely in the final (or so we are lead to believe lol)

To our dual players it's a great feat (should the footballers get to final) to be in both finals in this day and age it's getting harder and harder to do. Only the big Dublin clubs can do this and very rarely will there be a player on both teams. We've 9 or more

It definitely is up their with our centenary year when we got to Croke Park with both teams. Not bad time being involved with the club though I wish this moment (for me personally) was 8/10 years ago :(

I'm not being pedantic by saying this is more to do with the draw than St Galls but absolutely it's still a massive acheivement and good times in Milltown. Well done to everyone at the club - and no doubt you will all savour it.
Maybe without the efforts of the lads on previous teams the hurling side of the cub wouldnt have been strong enough to make it today so everyone has their part in it when a club does well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Perhaps 15 years  MR2  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Perhaps 15 years  MR2  ;D

Behave!! Didnt see you at match on Sat, giging?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on September 15, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
Word is Intermediate & Junior Hurling Championships will be fixed for this Saturday in Loughgiel and Senior Final in Ballycastle on 28th. Will be interesting to see how the county price these finals as it will be hard to charge £10 for one match as was last year at the senior final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on September 15, 2014, 06:44:10 PM
So when do Cushendall and ballycran play is it soon ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Am nearly 100% it's to be Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Am nearly 100% it's to be Loughgiel

Why not Corrigan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 15, 2014, 07:45:27 PM
Ballycastle on 28th. Tried to give us football championship wed night before . Seriously, what do they be thinking?.
Dearyme was there alright, camouflaged with a beard these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Any possibility of Lamh Dhearg for these up coming finals? Not a bad spot. I haven't been to St Enda's in recent years, whats it like even for the junior/ intermediate finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Any possibility of Lamh Dhearg for these up coming finals? Not a bad spot. I haven't been to St Enda's in recent years, whats it like even for the junior/ intermediate finals?

Neither hannahstown nor glengormley for matches - both can leave match susceptible to weather conditions and inhospitable for spectators.
I don't even see the need - loughgiel is one of the finest club grounds in Ireland!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 15, 2014, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Any possibility of Lamh Dhearg for these up coming finals? Not a bad spot. I haven't been to St Enda's in recent years, whats it like even for the junior/ intermediate finals?

Hardly see the point in taking 2 N.Antrim teams to Hannahstown or St Endas. Loughuile is a fantastic set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 15, 2014, 09:26:07 PM
Any possibility of Lamh Dhearg for these up coming finals? Not a bad spot. I haven't been to St Enda's in recent years, whats it like even for the junior/ intermediate finals?


Hardly see the point in taking 2 N.Antrim teams to Hannahstown or St Endas. Loughuile is a fantastic set up.


it it actually 3 N.Antrim teams, Armoy vs Rossa and Rasharkin vs Glenravel.

heard that they are both in loughiel @ 3.00 and 4.30.

who do you think will win both games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
I'll go: Senior -Cushendall. Intermediate - Rossa. Junior - Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2014, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 15, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
I'll go: Senior -Cushendall. Intermediate - Rossa. Junior - Rasharkin

Yip. Wouldn't argue with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Perhaps 15 years  MR2  ;D

Behave!! Didnt see you at match on Sat, giging?

Spotted this on the Antrim Guestbook

Name : gaa second11 September 2014
what's the exact date of the intermediate final?

IFC-4th October, IHC- 21st September
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2014, 08:29:09 AM
Why is there only a week between the junior and intermediate semi finals and finals? Could they not be given another week or is this because the senior hurling/ football are on the week after and they need them played before ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2014, 08:59:55 AM
that usually the reason. two years ago dunloy and loughgiel had to play under flood lights on a sat night due to an all Ireland final replay on the Sunday and the ulster championship fixtures the week after it.

its not much rest time for the teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2014, 09:05:55 AM
Ah yes forgot about the hurling replay too.

I think all three games have very strong favourites and would be very hard to see past them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 16, 2014, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2014, 09:05:55 AM
Ah yes forgot about the hurling replay too.

I think all three games have very strong favourites and would be very hard to see past them.

Hurling replay is on the saturday evening, so Sunday is as free as a bird unless you're big into the ladies football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 16, 2014, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 16, 2014, 09:05:55 AM
Ah yes forgot about the hurling replay too.

I think all three games have very strong favourites and would be very hard to see past them.

Hurling replay is on the saturday evening, so Sunday is as free as a bird unless you're big into the ladies football.

;D Too many games and dates in my head - confusing myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 16, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Perhaps 15 years  MR2  ;D

Behave!! Didnt see you at match on Sat, giging?

I was there! With a raised eyebrow! Standing beside your mate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 16, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
i hope its not in loughgiel, from purely a spectator point its not a great ground for viewing when there is a really big crowd and also not very child friendly which is a must for my viewing pleasure, which is why Ballycastle gets the nod from me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 16, 2014, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 16, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
i hope its not in loughgiel, from purely a spectator point its not a great ground for viewing when there is a really big crowd and also not very child friendly which is a must for my viewing pleasure, which is why Ballycastle gets the nod from me.

Ballycastle's grounds are excellent but it is far too exposed and always turns into a 'game of two halves' with the wind playing a major part in the result. That's why Lgiel gets my vote
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: cfclg on September 16, 2014, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 16, 2014, 10:31:52 AM
i hope its not in loughgiel, from purely a spectator point its not a great ground for viewing when there is a really big crowd and also not very child friendly which is a must for my viewing pleasure, which is why Ballycastle gets the nod from me.

Ballycastle's grounds are excellent but it is far too exposed and always turns into a 'game of two halves' with the wind playing a major part in the result. That's why Lgiel gets my vote

they need to build a build retaining wall at one end to stop the wind roaring up the pitch!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 02:36:59 PM
Double header on Saturday. Difficult to see anything other than wins for Rossa and Rasharkin. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Cushendall 1/12 and st galls 6/1.
Can't see anything other than a dall win but at those odds st galls us worth a fiver
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Cushendall 1/12 and st galls 6/1.
Can't see anything other than a dall win but at those odds st galls us worth a fiver

Crazy price, we should be at least 10/1 ffs handicap betting?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 02:54:05 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 17, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Cushendall 1/12 and st galls 6/1.
Can't see anything other than a dall win but at those odds st galls us worth a fiver

Crazy price, we should be at least 10/1 ffs handicap betting?
Not yet but at those odds I'd expect 6 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Shane McNaughton on for the last ten minutes of semi final just to make things a little more difficult for Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on September 17, 2014, 04:10:38 PM
Anyone any word what's happening this Saturday. Is the Intermediate Final on and if so what time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
Quote from: glensgael on September 17, 2014, 04:10:38 PM
Anyone any word what's happening this Saturday. Is the Intermediate Final on and if so what time?

3.30 Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
If the county senior final is in loughgiel, can St Galls hire the local horn blowers for the afternoon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
If the county senior final is in loughgiel, can St Galls hire the local horn blowers for the afternoon?

I'd say the Loughgiel supporters will rally in behind the city slickers ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
If the county senior final is in loughgiel, can St Galls hire the local horn blowers for the afternoon?

I'd say the Loughgiel supporters will rally in behind the city slickers ;)

Honorary chip eaters for the day!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 17, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
If the county senior final is in loughgiel, can St Galls hire the local horn blowers for the afternoon?

I'd say the Loughgiel supporters will rally in behind the city slickers ;)

Honorary chip eaters for the day!?

they will get their  support but there might be some initiation ceremony involving some sheep just to be sure
mr2 will revel in the experience
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 09:13:59 PM
Final is in Ballycastle - confirmed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 09:13:59 PM
Final is in Ballycastle - confirmed

Fair oul dander to the nearest chippy from the pitch, f## k sake. Are sky showing it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 09:37:57 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 09:13:59 PM
Final is in Ballycastle - confirmed

Fair oul dander to the nearest chippy from the pitch, f## k sake. Are sky showing it?

Will be in pub with my Cushendall friends beforehand, looking forward to it, referee sorted ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 10:36:30 PM
Havn't heard anything about referee to be honest. From the quarter finals the best 2 performances I saw were yourself and Garrett Duffy and ironically neither of you can ref final. We all have our opinions, I would like to see Eamonn Hasson or Mark O'Neill 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 17, 2014, 10:41:27 PM
Chip eaters for life if the "shock" comes of at 6/1 ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 11:00:22 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 17, 2014, 10:36:30 PM
Havn't heard anything about referee to be honest. From the quarter finals the best 2 performances I saw were yourself and Garrett Duffy and ironically neither of you can ref final. We all have our opinions, I would like to see Eamonn Hasson or Mark O'Neill

Mark, Aidan, Collie, Eamon or Owen  will do. all solid referees in my opinion. semi final referees usually don't get a shout so Colum will lose out unfortunately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2014, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 17, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
If the county senior final is in loughgiel, can St Galls hire the local horn blowers for the afternoon?

I'd say the Loughgiel supporters will rally in behind the city slickers ;)

Honorary chip eaters for the day!?

most def, tho they will still all have those lgiel hoddies/tracksuit tops glued onto them  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 18, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
I would say Dunloy will be out in force supporting the city team??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 18, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on September 18, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
I would say Dunloy will be out in force supporting the city team??

Dont be silly it'll only be Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 18, 2014, 03:19:06 PM
Most Dunloy people I know will be cheering for the Dall, there has always been a great respect between the two clubs and given the tradegies that have hit the club this year I'm sure no one in Dunloy would begrudge them the title - should they win it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2014, 03:23:39 PM
ive been to all Ireland semis involving Cushendall and cheered them on. there's a mutual respect between the clubs, much the same as there is between ourselves and loughgiel.

difference is I don't want loughgiel to win and they are the same, so were both happy doing this lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 18, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
I'd say any team in an all Ireland semi you would want to be putting the Antrim rival aside and supporting your own.  Who ever wins I hope they go on and win ulster and do antrim and ulster proud.    Because I'd be expecting the same from use all next year when were back on the road  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 18, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Don't be so arrogant SG. 'When we're back on the road'. You guys were great champions but that horse has bolted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 18, 2014, 04:44:08 PM
That Dall team are young. Could be around for a while. IF IF IF that Ballycastle squad could get their act together things could get interesting. Can't see the Shams doing the damage next season. Think they now need to change things up a little
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
I'd say you supported Dunloy alright when they were on the road SG...

The shams have had a long road and will be back. Not sure their dominance is broken yet. Hopefully the other teams have upped their game but we'll see I guess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 18, 2014, 04:44:08 PM
That Dall team are young. Could be around for a while. IF IF IF that Ballycastle squad could get their act together things could get interesting. Can't see the Shams doing the damage next season. Think they now need to change things up a little

same thing every season with them. ive seen nothing from them to suggest they will in the past 3 years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 18, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
Yeah agreed Dunloy. Shame because on paper it's a hell of a good squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 18, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 18, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Don't be so arrogant SG. 'When we're back on the road'. You guys were great champions but that horse has bolted.
arrogant.  Jesus Christ.  The smiley face not give it away you fool.  Does it need to be serious all the time.  Am not at all arrogant.  But no horse has bolted.  Beaten by the better team on the day. The dall wanted it more and good luck to them. Were on the go 5 long years all year round pretty much.  Break do no harm. Anyways. No point getting into it as this years winners aren't even crowned yet. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 18, 2014, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
I'd say you supported Dunloy alright when they were on the road SG...

The shams have had a long road and will be back. Not sure their dominance is broken yet. Hopefully the other teams have upped their game but we'll see I guess.
always supported the team from ulster.  Believe it or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 18, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 18, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 18, 2014, 03:43:48 PM
Don't be so arrogant SG. 'When we're back on the road'. You guys were great champions but that horse has bolted.
arrogant.  Jesus Christ.  The smiley face not give it away you fool.  Does it need to be serious all the time.  Am not at all arrogant.  But no horse has bolted.  Beaten by the better team on the day. The dall wanted it more and good luck to them. Were on the go 5 long years all year round pretty much.  Break do no harm. Anyways. No point getting into it as this years winners aren't even crowned yet.

Apologies SG, didn't see smiley ......sorry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 18, 2014, 08:54:25 PM
Suggesting the shamrocks are finished after one defeat reminds me of the years when Dunloy were supposedly finished - still lifted the volunteer cup again.
I don't think they'll be far off again next year - or the year after that either.

No problem for me supporting the Antrim champions - our city teams don't have are not rivals of the glens sides any more unfortunately! One day eh!

Prove me wrong MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2014, 11:58:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.

bit like last year for the senior i suppose;-) Well once the 'Town' reel back the years.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 18, 2014, 08:54:25 PM
Suggesting the shamrocks are finished after one defeat reminds me of the years when Dunloy were supposedly finished - still lifted the volunteer cup again.
I don't think they'll be far off again next year - or the year after that either.

No problem for me supporting the Antrim champions - our city teams don't have are not rivals of the glens sides any more unfortunately! One day eh!

Prove me wrong MR2?

agreed, I've heard so many times over the past 6-7 years that we as a club were done, that we had nothing coming through etc. etc. everything goes in phases in antrim, loughgiel have had their period of dominace same as ourselves and Cushendall in the past 20 years. I would be surprised if loughgiel started to dominate again as the team they have is just that much older.

Cushendall look really good, a mix of youth and experience in their team and they aren't that old either. that's not saying they will automatically win this years final but they look have it in them to become the team to beat over the next few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 19, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
anybody else thinks that it odd that there is no referee announced yet for the junior and intermediate hurling championship final on saturday

this decision should have been made at the start of the week

My prediction would be for the two blue and yellows, Rossa and Rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2014, 03:40:06 PM
Maybe a name one of the four teams isn't happy about  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on September 19, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
anybody else thinks that it odd that there is no referee announced yet for the junior and intermediate hurling championship final on saturday

this decision should have been made at the start of the week

My prediction would be for the two blue and yellows, Rossa and Rasharkin

I'd say the referee knows he's doing it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
MR2 did you get one of the games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
MR2 did you get one of the games?

Nope. Owen got intermediate. Think Ill head down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I'm sure you're a bit disappointed. Competition is tough between referees. Colm Cochrane junior I see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I'm sure you're a bit disappointed. Competition is tough between referees. Colm Cochrane junior I see.

Not at all, I've done a decent game this year and can't complain in fairness, I think the appointments this year have been spot on, a great spread of experienced referees and new referees getting games. Also all divisions were given referees who'd normally be doing higher league games. So all in all I don't think their can be too many gripes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on September 19, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I'm sure you're a bit disappointed. Competition is tough between referees. Colm Cochrane junior I see.

Not at all, I've done a decent game this year and can't complain in fairness, I think the appointments this year have been spot on, a great spread of experienced referees and new referees getting games. Also all divisions were given referees who'd normally be doing higher league games. So all in all I don't think their can be too many gripes.
That answer should get you a few more games next year ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: manballandall on September 19, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I'm sure you're a bit disappointed. Competition is tough between referees. Colm Cochrane junior I see.

Not at all, I've done a decent game this year and can't complain in fairness, I think the appointments this year have been spot on, a great spread of experienced referees and new referees getting games. Also all divisions were given referees who'd normally be doing higher league games. So all in all I don't think their can be too many gripes.
That answer should get you a few more games next year ;)

If I'm not too busy :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 19, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I'm sure you're a bit disappointed. Competition is tough between referees. Colm Cochrane junior I see.

Not at all, I've done a decent game this year and can't complain in fairness, I think the appointments this year have been spot on, a great spread of experienced referees and new referees getting games. Also all divisions were given referees who'd normally be doing higher league games. So all in all I don't think their can be too many gripes.

Fair play! Yeah I saw Eamonn Hasson (a top referee) doing a number of lower league games. Well considering the game they gave you they obviously respect you. With the way the draw went any referee getting a quarter final on that side was always getting a tough game.
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Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.

You don't watch much hurling do you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2014, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: sylvieslynanesnutsack on September 19, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
MR2 did you get one of the games?

Nope. Owen got intermediate. Think Ill head down

Owen is a fine referee, if we are beat tomorrow it will not be the referees fault. ( Note I said that before the game, I reserve the right to change my opinion after the match  :D )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
If we are beat, it will be the referee's fault.

There.

:)

Fair does that is a good reply. If we are beat tomorrow I will blame the county board who would not put off the match until next week. We have a young girl getting married tomorrow who has two brothers on the team and a husband and brother in law on the bench. Despite asking for the match to be put off for a week we were denied as it might interfere with county board members going to the all ireland REPLAY. [b The prospect of an intermediate final as curtain raiser to the senior final was also unthinkable to our county board. What a fine upstanding bunch of gentlemen they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2014, 09:58:16 PM
We're in the u16 county football final tomorrow as well.

Glad to see they pay your lot as little respect as our lot, hope you win the football, give you something to celebrate tomorrow :o  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 10:09:54 PM
You will get it tight in the hurling as well!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
Hopefully rossa's willingness to change time to suit your wedding doesn't indicate complacency or come back to haunt them!
DearyMe can keep us in the loop!
I think the intermediate as curtain raiser to the senior would have been common sense and logical - that would be a novel thing in our county tho ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 10:16:00 PM
There are no issues with Rossa. Can't wait for the match tomorrow, although it should have been a week later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
Hopefully rossa's willingness to change time to suit your wedding doesn't indicate complacency or come back to haunt them!
Wha?

Am I not right in saying the match was originally an evening fixture but Rossa agreed to swap to facilitate the armoy wedding?
Maybe my bad information - maybe a nice gesture - the result tomorro will put it in context!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2014, 12:21:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 12:20:05 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 19, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2014, 10:10:44 PM
Hopefully rossa's willingness to change time to suit your wedding doesn't indicate complacency or come back to haunt them!
Wha?

Am I not right in saying the match was originally an evening fixture but Rossa agreed to swap to facilitate the armoy wedding?
Maybe my bad information - maybe a nice gesture - the result tomorro will put it in context!
FFS, get a grip.

We know the venue. We know the time. We'll be there and hopefully we'll win.

Who said any different?
FFS relax.
Fair play to Rossa for facilitating.
Massive chip on your shoulder there HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 02:15:13 AM
I said I hoped it wasn't complacency - and commended Rossa for changing the start time. And hopefully a Rossa win puts the context as not complacency.
It's a word that applies to every big favourite - not just ur team.
Read it.
So I'm afraid your flat wrong on this one - relax and get the chip off your shoulder.
And to think the loughgiel boys got stick for having a complex.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 03:38:56 AM
Oh poor hardstation. Go to bed.
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2014, 09:50:38 AM
Intermediate final called off - someone in armoy died. RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2014, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.


first one wrong. Glenravel won by a goal. Hope there may be more suprises. This year has been good for them and they keep everyone on their toes. I like to remind myself there is no such thing  as a foregone conclusion. I have learnt that the hard way in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2014, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.


first one wrong. Glenravel won by a goal. Hope there may be more suprises. This year has been good for them and they keep everyone on their toes. I like to remind myself there is no such thing  as a foregone conclusion. I have learnt that the hard way in the past.

Some turn around from last years performance against Creggan in the semis (game I refereed) They were woeful that day, so they came through the junior B comp first. Fair play and unlucky Rasharkin 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 20, 2014, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2014, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.


first one wrong. Glenravel won by a goal. Hope there may be more suprises. This year has been good for them and they keep everyone on their toes. I like to remind myself there is no such thing  as a foregone conclusion. I have learnt that the hard way in the past.

Some turn around from last years performance against Creggan in the semis (game I refereed) They were woeful that day, so they came through the junior B comp first. Fair play and unlucky Rasharkin

Fair play to Glenravel. Has been some year for them, winning division 4, the Junior B Championship and now the Junior Championship. Great stuff, good luck to them in Ulster and hopefully all Ireland.  I would love to see Armoy beating Rossa as well but just can't see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 20, 2014, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 20, 2014, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 20, 2014, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.


first one wrong. Glenravel won by a goal. Hope there may be more suprises. This year has been good for them and they keep everyone on their toes. I like to remind myself there is no such thing  as a foregone conclusion. I have learnt that the hard way in the past.

Some turn around from last years performance against Creggan in the semis (game I refereed) They were woeful that day, so they came through the junior B comp first. Fair play and unlucky Rasharkin

Fair play to Glenravel. Has been some year for them, winning division 4, the Junior B Championship and now the Junior Championship. Great stuff, good luck to them in Ulster and hopefully all Ireland.  I would love to see Armoy beating Rossa as well but just can't see it.

The Mighty Conn Magees undefeated this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2014, 07:52:50 PM
Intermediate 2.30 & senior 4.15 ballycastle double header then.
Still saying Rossa & cushendall will each have a bit to spare.
But we've had a shock already mind!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2014, 08:49:20 AM
I think st galls will give Cushendall a good game, it wont be any sort of hammering at all. I do think Cushendall will pull away at the end to win by 5 at the end up but I def think that st galls will stick with them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2014, 11:12:44 AM
Any word on referee for the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
Aidan Kelly (St John's)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
Aidan Kelly (St John's)

good man for the job. Well done Aidan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2014, 09:23:10 AM
Would be good for hurling to see two good games. Here's hoping!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
Aidan Kelly (St John's)

good man for the job. Well done Aidan

Ya big lick  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 26, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
Aidan Kelly (St John's)

good man for the job. Well done Aidan

Lets hope so is right - if making a prediction however I would say both games will be over as a context with at least 10mins left on the watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: DearyMe on September 26, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 26, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM
Aidan Kelly (St John's)

good man for the job. Well done Aidan

Lets hope so is right - if making a prediction however I would say both games will be over as a context with at least 10mins left on the watch.

Would have to agree!  If ARMOY can somehow grind at Rossa, they could get close - but i cant see it happening!

If Galls are within 5 at half time, then the changing room will be an interesting one.  However, its about staying within 5 points!  Dall will have learned from a few years ago, that Galls can turn up and play! But they will be ready this time!

I think a few admirers would love to see Galls do the double  ;)
             


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 26, 2014, 09:02:05 PM
Cushendall don't run up massive points tallies, 12 points against Loughgiel, 10 points against us and I'd bet not dissimilar scores over the last 4 years in most championship matches.  The point I'm making is they don't blitz teams.

This is perhaps largely due to their defensive solidity, Campbell shores up the half back line well and there forwards are all capable of being out of the game for periods but then chipping in with crucial scores. 

I expect St Galls to drop a man back in front of natty and also withdraw a half forward to midfield, force a long point shoutout early on to keep the scores down and give them something to fight for in second half.  If St Galls get ahead at any stage then they will cause problems but ultimately i can't see Cushendall letting this slip

And as I said before, no one would begrudge them this title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2014, 09:28:40 PM
They deserve it given the opponents they have beat to get here. Whoever wins on Sunday will deserve to be champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
I hope we give the neutrals something to cheer about tomorrow, I want us to compete and challenge for every ball, and we give an effort/display that is worthy of any finalist.

No doubting the talent and emerging talent at Cushendalls disposal, but like us they can only put 15 players on the pitch and if we fight for every shitty ball and put our bodies on the line for the whole game then I'll be a happy Galls man. To walk away whether you win lose or draw after putting up the effort then I wouldn't ask for anymore than that.

It's a game that takes me back to Cushendun's final appearance, one shot and to be fair to them they put in a great effort that day in Casement, they just came up short. Anyway I hope we get a great day and two good games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Best of luck to st galls and c,dall tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 28, 2014, 10:03:50 AM
And to Armoy and Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 28, 2014, 11:34:39 AM
All four teams can't have the luck! ;)

Any advice on parking in ballycastle? Normal dump it as close as I can get it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 28, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
If you're going to both matches you'll get into the car park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
Yes.  Also armoy and rossa!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 28, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
Congratulations Cushendal. Deserved winners. Credit to St. Galls for large parts of the game they matched Cushendal. Missing scoreable chances was the difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 28, 2014, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 28, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
Two terrible games. We stank the place out for most of the game but upped it enough with about 15 mins to go.

St Galls just couldn't score. Hurled well early on and only for missing a bucketful of good chances they should have been ahead at half time. Seemed to get frustrated in the second half as Cushendall picked off scores much easier.

Dire.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 28, 2014, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 19, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
Senior: Cushendall by 10+
Intermediate: Rossa by 15+
Junior: Rasharkin by 6

Looks like 3 forgone conclusions I am afraid.

You don't watch much hurling do you?

Wasn't too far off apart from Glenravel causing a mini upset. Two bad games to watch today, Rossa should have won by more only for bad shooting, especially in the first half. St Galls were defensively sound but just don't have the striking to get the ball over the ball when they have worked it into a good position. Well done to Rossa and Cushendall on the day. Both will need to up it a gear in Ulster and beyond.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2014, 07:48:27 PM
ST Galls big players didn't show up. Stewart was not at the races and CJ just wanted to slabber. Kieran was the only player who really showed up. Cushendall will need to up it big style.

Rossa were poor also, do teams not do any shooting anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
Was very disappointed, didn't think we'd win before game started, odds against us but we well underperformed and a few of our lads will be very disappointed in how they played or didn't play. We dropped at least 8 or 9 balls into keepers hands and missed 5/6 very score-able frees, best team won on the day but wasn't exactly impressed with Cushendall, but seeing as Ballycran has shit in the nest against Portaferry they should, barring a feck up against the Derry Champions come through Ulster.

Rossa were very sluggish in the first half but were never going to lose and ran out handy enough against a stubborn Armoy team who collapsed after the goal in second half.

Rossa meet Keady who will not be as handy as Armoy

Mickey, I think Kieran gave a great display, and was far better than Carson, who's shot score rate was very poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 28, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
We play Burt.

You'll meet Keady
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 11:22:41 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on September 28, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 10:41:03 PM
Mickey, I think Kieran gave a great display, and was far better than Carson, who's shot score rate was very poor

I agree but that's the type of hurler he is. I thought he was very effective all the same doing the simple things well. He's not everyone's cup of tea but thought he was one of Dalls better forwards. That said, Kieran was really good and came out on top lots of time as well. Thought Galls were holding on to the ball that extra 2 seconds longer than Cushendall were all over the pitch.  Cushendall missed two good goal chances in the first half as well but did the business when they needed to in the second half. Graffin was the best player on the pitch. 

At the end of the day, Galls only scored 6 times and the goal was a scrambled one. Fair play and all that for giving it their all but on the way, they didn't really beat anyone they shouldn't have and then came up really short against the deserved champions.

What was up with taking Jackson off? He didn't look well when he took off his helmet.  Too many balls dropping into the keepers hands. Big Anton would have got his hands to at least half of them.  Bad luck anyway.

As for Rossa. Younger players making lots of wrong choices but the experience should stand by them well enough too as will the winter hurling Ulster and AI experience but from what i saw today and before would have got ate and shit in the SHC.

Not sure what was wrong with Jackson, but once he came off we lost a bit around the middle. We needed a proper start and that meant winning and scoring the chances we had. With the wind we probably should have had Anton in FF. Again Cushendall were the better team and deservedly won the match.

On another note Aidan did really well, wasn't much complaining from Galls ones were I was standing (ok few headers squealing but that happens) sensible ones though he'd a decent game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on September 28, 2014, 11:24:57 PM
Agreed. Didn't hear much complaining where I was either.

I originally thought you meant Aidan Gallagher who also had a decent game.

He did in fits and starts, would have been a lot better with more training, he's living in Cardiff now so very hard for him to fit things in but decent effort all the same.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 29, 2014, 04:51:49 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on September 28, 2014, 10:37:54 PM
Wasn't nice to see a few Galls lads giving the manager a hard time when taken off. They had 50 mins to do something and didn't but felt the need to give the manager a hard time (one of the other lads McEreavy was squaring up to him). Nice to see Johnny Flynn come on and score straight away. I don't think he'd have missed many of those frees CJ missed. Very unimpressed with that fella. Classless in nearly every thing he does on the pitch.

Had they have taken their scores in the first half, it would have made the second half very interesting but Cushendall in reality didnt have to get out of second gear.  Good battle between Kieran McGourty and big Carson. Both had good games with Carson probably shading it when it came to who was more effective.  First game was awful.

This sums it up quite well. Thought Galls defended as well as any team in this year's championship but unfortunately they don't seem to have the firepower up front. They created plenty of chances but hit wide after wide. Think we also need to keep in mind that Dalls defence is mean!

Stewarty didn't get going, even missing frees. CJ missed a lot (his attitude is questionable) and McAreavey was rightly taken off (how many has he scored all championship?) Just like in the Sarsfields game.

Jackson McGreevey, having a bug, was a big blow! He gives his all, a great example to younger players.

St. Galls did well to keep Christy, Natty etc. Quiet. I'll not mention Carson as I don't rate him anyhow. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Intermediate:
Not taking anything away from Armoy whose work rate put their opponents to shame - but Rossa were atrocious.
Several glaring chances missed in the first half including a free that the player could have thrown over the bar. In the second half they ran out easy enough winners thanks to a pair of scrappy goals mainly. Rossa will need to improve hugley for the Ulster championship. I knew more of their players standing aroung me on the terrace than I did on the pitch - not sure if there was a fall out but they certainly lacked bite on the pitch. Surprising because I have been very impressed by their league results this year.

Senior:
I thought this match was over after 15minutes. Galls had yet to score and Cushendall had 1-3 or so on the board against the breeze. The missed chances from Galls summed up the difference bewteen the sides. CJ was terrible. And judging by the Galls support thats nothing new MR2? I think Cushendall have mire to come - they weren't pushed to produce it yesterday tho - gain no disrepesct to Galls but fair to say they teams just are not evenly matched. McGourty is a class act - even without the legs he once had. Young McGreevy was ill all week I hear and wasnt up to the game which is a blow for Galls and him personally.

All in all I thought finals day was a poor affair with neither game really bringing much of a spark. Ironically I thought both losing teams brought great support if anyone noticed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 29, 2014, 10:05:45 AM
Great photo in todays Irish news of James two boys. Nice touch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2014, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Intermediate:
Not taking anything away from Armoy whose work rate put their opponents to shame - but Rossa were atrocious.
Several glaring chances missed in the first half including a free that the player could have thrown over the bar. In the second half they ran out easy enough winners thanks to a pair of scrappy goals mainly. Rossa will need to improve hugley for the Ulster championship. I knew more of their players standing aroung me on the terrace than I did on the pitch - not sure if there was a fall out but they certainly lacked bite on the pitch.
Who was on the terrace that you thought should have been playing?

Gavin Bell?
Not sure if Hamill and Kettle hurling any more?
Close playing football but not hurling?

Good to see a young team in terms of the future but definitely going to have to up the game to qualify from Ulster me thinks.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2014, 12:53:47 PM
Hasn't played all year and has retired from senior hurling. Anyone else?

No. Not that I know of.
4 players missed is sufficient to make a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Is Beller sporting a hipster beard these days? Could have swore it was him I saw at Aldergrove a few weeks ago bearded and wearing skinny jeans. McCooey's eh!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2014, 01:04:38 PM
Kettle is still playing a bit. Others are retired. They aren't young men anymore.

I am surprised that you didn't know more than 4 of the players we had on though.

I did know more than 4 players you had on - i just thought of the 4 not playing when I noticed Bell beside me.
No beard though Tony - leave us McCooey's fashion alone - you country boys will catch up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2014, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Is Beller sporting a hipster beard these days? Could have swore it was him I saw at Aldergrove a few weeks ago bearded and wearing skinny jeans. McCooey's eh!  ::)

McGregor lookalike then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2014, 03:35:05 PM
Congratulations to cushendall. I see slaughtneil won in Derry. They won't be a push over for whoever plays them in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 29, 2014, 04:06:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2014, 03:35:05 PM
Congratulations to cushendall. I see slaughtneil won in Derry. They won't be a push over for whoever plays them in Ulster.

Ballycran came badly unstuck yesterday where the Ports beat them by three points in a keenly fought if lacking in quality game.
TBH, I'd seen Ballycran once this year where they slaughtered our lads (no big deal at the minute) and then they went onto win the Antrim league whereas the Ports like ourselves have struggled so big things were expected from the Crans.

Once I saw their full forward line I knew the Ports had a chance, none of the three were going to put the fear of god in any defender worth their salt and with a few melees breaking out, you could visibly see the 'confidence' drain out of them, taking up poor positions (hiding in my book) they didn't do the damage they should have done with the slight wind advantage they had in the first half. A bit of a ropey goal give them a lead which they failed to hold onto long enough even with the man advantage they had for most of the second half.

Ports were able to get a better spread of scoring forwards and aren't as reliant on Dule as they used to be although they did go very deep early on to protect a slim lead which the Crans really should have used the extra man better to make positions to take off a few long range points and reverted to dropping in ball to who I don't know.
Ports are a strange brew, they'll now be happy with their lot, rather than kick on and give Ulster a good rattle then they can drink the bit out, but guaranteed Sands pub will be full today!

Ports doing enough but Ballycran flatter to deceive even with the brains along the line.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 29, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on September 29, 2014, 04:21:37 PM
Yeah, only team that could possibly cause an upset would be Slaughtneil I reckon. But in reality, Cushendall shouldn't be troubled by the Ports.

Any dates pencilled in for these games?

Historically Cushendall don't have the invincibility about them like the Dunloy of yesteryear and Loughgeil recently and are there to be got at. Whether Portaferry are up for the fight is another story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 29, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
Is there really a chance Slaughtneil could beat cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
there is a chance for them, they ran lgiel close this year and this past two games Cushendall haven't really 'let loose' as people have been saying. well when are they going to do this and will they?

Cushendall deserved to win it this year as they won all their games. was a poor championship IMO, I thought loughgiel, ballycastle and ourselves were all poor and didn't play anything that they were capable of.

Cushendall will need to step it up even more if they are serious about making a go at winning ulster and getting over the all Ireland semi hurdle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 30, 2014, 10:33:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 30, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
there is a chance for them, they ran lgiel close this year and this past two games Cushendall haven't really 'let loose' as people have been saying. well when are they going to do this and will they?

Cushendall deserved to win it this year as they won all their games. was a poor championship IMO, I thought loughgiel, ballycastle and ourselves were all poor and didn't play anything that they were capable of.

Cushendall will need to step it up even more if they are serious about making a go at winning ulster and getting over the all Ireland semi hurdle.

Very much so!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 01, 2014, 07:42:00 PM
Would the very subdued celebrations from the Rossa players at the weekend back up the theory that they shouldn't have been in the Intermediate this year?  Clearly meant nothing to them...will they apply themselves any more now with an All Ireland run on the cards?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on October 01, 2014, 08:30:52 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 01, 2014, 07:42:00 PM
Would the very subdued celebrations from the Rossa players at the weekend back up the theory that they shouldn't have been in the Intermediate this year?  Clearly meant nothing to them...will they apply themselves any more now with an All Ireland run on the cards?

Indeed the lack of excitement at winning a championship was very evident from both the players and the polite round of applause from the Rossa supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 01, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
Aye, didn't hear one vuvuzela all day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on October 01, 2014, 08:30:52 PM
Quote from: gelvis on October 01, 2014, 07:42:00 PM
Would the very subdued celebrations from the Rossa players at the weekend back up the theory that they shouldn't have been in the Intermediate this year?  Clearly meant nothing to them...will they apply themselves any more now with an All Ireland run on the cards?

Indeed the lack of excitement at winning a championship was very evident from both the players and the polite round of applause from the Rossa supporters.
I thought it was fairly evident that they were in the right championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 01, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
Was I was at a different game?
Team photos with the cup for a while on the pitch!
Check the Antrim post this week!
And judging by the game they certainly were in the right championship!
Not sure about that gelvis - I think the intermediate has been the right idea for Rossa to re-build.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 01, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 01, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
Was I was at a different game?
Team photos with the cup for a while on the pitch!
Check the Antrim post this week!
And judging by the game they certainly were in the right championship!
Not sure about that gizzy - I think the intermediate has been the right idea for Rossa to re-build.

Hardly jubilant scenes in the photos. 
On the "judging by the game" comment, did St Galls put in a better performance on Sunday?

I'd nearly go as far as to say the Intermediate Game was a better standard than the Senior one.  At least players could hand pass to their own team mates and take their points!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2014, 08:59:55 AM
rossa are where they need to be at the moment, sometimes you need to take a team apart and build from scratch again. this is what they have done this time around and it has allowed young players like Seaghan Shannon to flourish in midfield.

winning this and blooding a few minors into the team isn't enough, it takes hard work at underage level and progressing the under 16's/minors on constantly towards the team will be the long term goal.

but hopefully they do well this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 02, 2014, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: gelvis on October 01, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 01, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
Was I was at a different game?
Team photos with the cup for a while on the pitch!
Check the Antrim post this week!
And judging by the game they certainly were in the right championship!
Not sure about that gizzy - I think the intermediate has been the right idea for Rossa to re-build.

Hardly jubilant scenes in the photos. 
On the "judging by the game" comment, did St Galls put in a better performance on Sunday?

I'd nearly go as far as to say the Intermediate Game was a better standard than the Senior one.  At least players could hand pass to their own team mates and take their points!  ;)

They should get St. Galls to play Rossa to check your theory. But Rossa would need about a plus 10 handicap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 02, 2014, 09:42:40 AM
You must have changed that post btdtgtt, was wondering how I got brought into the conversation.

I do think they were in the right championship btw. If that's their strongest team then they will need to build and mature over the next few years.

I think it was a bit of a talking point and a bit of ribbing about st galls being in the showpiece and as quoted by a st galls man "rossa being their curtain raiser" , that made some rossa people feel a bit unconfortable. But it is what it is.

I feel if Rossa put the right structures in place it will only be a small matter of time before those rolls are reversed. But a while yet before Big Ears is being brought to Shaws road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 02, 2014, 09:55:53 AM
I think the lack of excitement is simply because winning the intermediate didn't prove anything to themselves or anyone else. This is not a slant on the achievement but when they entered it most people knew they were the best team in it.

They are in a bad position where they are finding it hard to compete at senior champ grade and too good for intermediate. To use a county analogy  it would be like say Offaly (who aren't competitive with the top 9 or 10 counties in Ireland) dropping down to play christy ring next year. You and I know they will win it. When they do win it, your not going to find Dooley or Carroll doing cartwheels across croke park. But they may have blooded 10 young hurlers in the process. Unless the right structures and direction are in place though the problem will start all over again the next year when they have to play at the top table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2014, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 02, 2014, 09:42:40 AM
You must have changed that post btdtgtt, was wondering how I got brought into the conversation.

I do think they were in the right championship btw. If that's their strongest team then they will need to build and mature over the next few years.

I think it was a bit of a talking point and a bit of ribbing about st galls being in the showpiece and as quoted by a st galls man "rossa being their curtain raiser" , that made some rossa people feel a bit unconfortable. But it is what it is.

I feel if Rossa put the right structures in place it will only be a small matter of time before those rolls are reversed. But a while yet before Big Ears is being brought to Shaws road.

Yes Gizzy - my bad! Sorry!

Agree fully on Rossa grading - they're position in between intermediate & senior this year is much like Antrim and others as well as Offaly! But entirely correct analogy in that there are championships within championships.
In terms of the comparison with St Galls - I'm not srue there;s much bewteen the Johnnies Rossa Galls or Sarsfields at the moment.
Without any dis-respect as I've alot of time for Galls - they're county final appearance was a result of a freak draw rather than anything else. Lets not kid ourselves on that.
But on that - none of the Belfast teams are anywhere near the level of the top sides. Lets hope and trust they are taking measures to get there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 02, 2014, 12:13:06 PM


Hard to argue on your point regards Galls path to the final. Still if their 3 main forwards (McAreavey, Stewart and CJ) had taken their chances then it would have been very close. Defensively they were every bit as good as the Dall.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 02, 2014, 12:13:06 PM


Hard to argue on your point regards Galls path to the final. Still if their 3 main forwards (McAreavey, Stewart and CJ) had taken their chances then it would have been very close. Defensively they were every bit as good as the Dall.

If, If, If, - that's what separates teams.
I still think Cushendall had more in the tank - IF St Galls had have pushed them then Cushendall would have upped their game also.

The Slaughtneil game will be in Owenbeg I believe.
Hopefully no shocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2014, 03:03:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 02, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 02, 2014, 12:13:06 PM


Hard to argue on your point regards Galls path to the final. Still if their 3 main forwards (McAreavey, Stewart and CJ) had taken their chances then it would have been very close. Defensively they were every bit as good as the Dall.

If, If, If, - that's what separates teams.
I still think Cushendall had more in the tank - IF St Galls had have pushed them then Cushendall would have upped their game also.

The Slaughtneil game will be in Owenbeg I believe.
Hopefully no shocks.

same for ourselves. if we had of taken our chances we could of beat Cushendall. we didn't and they deserved to win.

slaughtneill will give Cushendall their fill for this game, it wont be a big score between them if the dall win. they proved last year v lgiel they are capable of matching them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 02, 2014, 10:28:51 PM
Who are the two teams coming down from division one this year and the two teams going up from division two?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 03, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
I suspect sarsfields and ballygalget will be replaced by Rossa & clooney Gaels.
Although the picture in division one "B" is less clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2014, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 03, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
I suspect sarsfields and ballygalget will be replaced by Rossa & clooney Gaels.
Although the picture in division one "B" is less clear.

Allegedly we've a glimmer of hope if we beat the Johnnies in our last game, might even be this weekend.

We'd be on the same points as Portaferry and better for/against in the two games we've played them in this year.

A year down a level mightn'd do any harm as serious rebuilding is needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 03, 2014, 10:07:59 AM
So Portaferry could get relegated the year the win the Championship and Ballycran win the league but not a championship match!

Will they continue with the split league? I liked it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 03, 2014, 10:07:59 AM
So Portaferry could get relegated the year the win the Championship and Ballycran win the league but not a championship match!

Will they continue with the split league? I liked it!

I like it too as although we're in a bad place at the minute, we got a taste of the higher level which is good for our youngsters and the second half of the league was do dog in every match.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 03, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 03, 2014, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 03, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
I suspect sarsfields and ballygalget will be replaced by Rossa & clooney Gaels.
Although the picture in division one "B" is less clear.

Allegedly we've a glimmer of hope if we beat the Johnnies in our last game, might even be this weekend.

We'd be on the same points as Portaferry and better for/against in the two games we've played them in this year.

A year down a level mightn'd do any harm as serious rebuilding is needed.

Interesting Johnny - hopefully the games get played before the weather turns. Fairer for all.
That Down championship is so unpredictable - league form means nothing whatsoever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Burt giving rossa their fill of it from what I hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 05, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Burt giving rossa their fill of it from what I hear.

Sounds like Rossa got out of jail so to speak!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Burt giving rossa their fill of it from what I hear.

Sounds like Rossa got out of jail so to speak!
I wasn't at it so I can't say. I've a friend who is a setanta club man. He was keeping me informed. He said that they pulled away handy in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 06, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Burt giving rossa their fill of it from what I hear.

Sounds like Rossa got out of jail so to speak!
I wasn't at it so I can't say. I've a friend who is a setanta club man. He was keeping me informed. He said that they pulled away handy in the end.

I wouldn't call 4points "handy".
The Rossa men I spoke to were not very positive either.
Hopefully lift their game as I would think Keady will be a stern test.
Glenravel still going well.
Cushendall vs Slaughtneil anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 06, 2014, 09:38:11 AM
I will be at that game on Sunday myself, it should be a good one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 06, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 05, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 05, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Burt giving rossa their fill of it from what I hear.

Sounds like Rossa got out of jail so to speak!
I wasn't at it so I can't say. I've a friend who is a setanta club man. He was keeping me informed. He said that they pulled away handy in the end.

I wouldn't call 4points "handy".
The Rossa men I spoke to were not very positive either.
Hopefully lift their game as I would think Keady will be a stern test.
Glenravel still going well.
Cushendall vs Slaughtneil anyone?

we played Burt few years ago. Ulster league final, only pulled away in last five minutes. Hard working team. Keady will be a step up again. Very good at this level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 06, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
I rem us playing them a number of years back in the early 2000's and they give us a right tight game until half time. they scored a goal early on and made life difficult for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 06, 2014, 03:48:32 PM
I think all three Antrim teams will struggle to get wins this coming Sunday, but fancy them to squeeze through by no more than a point or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 06, 2014, 05:17:19 PM
Slaughniel by 2, those lads ran Loughgiel very close last year and should not be wrote off too easily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2014, 07:36:20 PM
I reckon the dall will throw the shackles off now that they've won the volunteer cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 07, 2014, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2014, 07:36:20 PM
I reckon the dall will throw the shackles off now that they've won the volunteer cup.

Jez, Ports drew the short straw there, Clones is over 100 miles away and only 20 miles for Lisbellaw.

Surely there's somewhere more central to both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2014, 10:06:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 07, 2014, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2014, 07:36:20 PM
I reckon the dall will throw the shackles off now that they've won the volunteer cup.

Jez, Ports drew the short straw there, Clones is over 100 miles away and only 20 miles for Lisbellaw.

Surely there's somewhere more central to both.

But of a journey but I would say 2weeks ago they'd have been delighted at the prospect!
Still in shock they beat the crans!

Rossa & Glenravel both on the road to Dungannon.

I am going to try make the Cushendall fixture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 07, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
Rossa by at least 3
Con Magees - by 2 at least
Slaughtniel - just edging it by the minimum or 2, well it is championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 07, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
I will be at the Cushendall game.

I honestly think they will get it tight in this one, I hope im wrong as the potential is there in that team to be even better than they have shown this season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oakleafgael on October 07, 2014, 12:55:37 PM
Cant see C'dall getting it overly tight. Will be close and hard fought till half time but would exect them to pull clear in the last quarter. It was a lot better set up for Slaughneil last year, footballers where out in the first round which left them the guts of 3 months to concentrate on hurling only. With a combination of the hurling starting later in the year and the footballers now through to the final I cant see how they will be as well prepared and it showed in Derry final. They are selecting from almost the same panel of players. Great year for them all the same, won the hurling, beat in camogie final and through to the football final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 07, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 07, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
Rossa by at least 3
Con Magees - by 2 at least
Slaughtniel - just edging it by the minimum or 2, well it is championship.

Keady by 3
Castleblayney by 5
Cushnedall to squeeze past our reps but just, as someone said, S'neil have had to spread themselves thin all year, super effort form them to date
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 07, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on October 07, 2014, 12:55:37 PM
Cant see C'dall getting it overly tight. Will be close and hard fought till half time but would exect them to pull clear in the last quarter. It was a lot better set up for Slaughneil last year, footballers where out in the first round which left them the guts of 3 months to concentrate on hurling only. With a combination of the hurling starting later in the year and the footballers now through to the final I cant see how they will be as well prepared and it showed in Derry final. They are selecting from almost the same panel of players. Great year for them all the same, won the hurling, beat in camogie final and through to the football final.

I forgot they have the football final next week. they have done really well this season to get to both finals. it might just tell on them tho it is do able.

dunloy won the antrim senior hurling and antrim intermediate football finals and both teams made the ulster finals that year. it is possible but extremely hard to spread all the players if they are dual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2014, 06:24:04 PM
Been there and done that DR. Both all Ireland finals in same year and both county finals this year!! Great bunch of lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 07, 2014, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2014, 06:24:04 PM
Been there and done that DR. Both all Ireland finals in same year and both county finals this year!! Great bunch of lads

Serious achievement.
Slaughtneil must have some set up there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 08, 2014, 09:09:56 AM
I agree, they must have a great step up at the club to get to both finals in one year. how many of their panel are dual players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 08, 2014, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 07, 2014, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2014, 06:24:04 PM
Been there and done that DR. Both all Ireland finals in same year and both county finals this year!! Great bunch of lads

Serious achievement.
Slaughtneil must have some set up there?

If you look back at Ulster Feiles, minor club championships for the last few years they're never very far away, so maybe their work is coming to fruition, but this year its hard to see how lads can be out sunday after sunday and not tire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 08, 2014, 10:29:32 AM
Its only the start of it for Slaughtneil, they have a conveyor belt of teams coming behind seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on October 08, 2014, 11:19:10 AM
Can't see Rossa getting by Keady - Burt nicked 3 goals! Rossa were slow to start and having watched them against Armoy they looked very weak. even there stronger so called county players were poor. Hope i'm wrong! As be good for the city hurling to have them in the Ulster final.
Think their problem is size and strength in the forward line IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on October 09, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
Whilst Cushendall are from the finished article yet, Slaughtneil are also there for the beating. They sent a full team up to play a weakened St Galls team in preparation for both clubs senior hurling championships. Slaughtneil won by a few with St Galls misfiring up front, again. But more importantly St Galls didnt even have a full team out. If the heads are right, Cushendall will win this one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2014, 10:59:04 PM
A Derry referee referees in antrim all the time and also Down referee in antrim also, what is the problem? No one charges anybody any thing in a games. Its expenses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 09, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2014, 10:59:04 PM
A Derry referee referees in antrim all the time and also Down referee in antrim also, what is the problem? No one charges anybody any thing in a games. Its expenses


Expenses??? Then the total must be a mistake. £230 is a bit much for a spin over the glenshane pass, unless it's a chauffeur driven Limo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 09, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2014, 10:59:04 PM
A Derry referee referees in antrim all the time and also Down referee in antrim also, what is the problem? No one charges anybody any thing in a games. Its expenses


Expenses??? Then the total must be a mistake. £230 is a bit much for a spin over the glenshane pass, unless it's a chauffeur driven Limo.

exactly. I smell bullshit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 10, 2014, 08:57:16 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 09, 2014, 08:01:20 PM
I happened to be in The Elk last night in Toome with a few Derry ex-co-workers (Creagh Concrete) and could not believe what one of them told me.  It transpires, an Antrim referee charged the Derry County Board £230.00 to referee the Derry Senior Hurling Final, I nearly croaked it when he told me and didn't believe him at first.  A mate of his then relayed the same story, at which I still found it hard to believe. Does anyone know if there is any truth in the matter?  A bit strange an Antrim referee doing a Derry Senior Hurling Final me thinks -  :o.

A nice little earner all the same, if your getting it.  But are them Derry wans likely to pay it????  Apparently it's the talk of South Derry.

Eamon Hasson refereed the Down semi-final this year, so no big deal getting outside referees in, can't say what 'expenses' he accrued that particular day though, but £230 does seem a bit ott and bullshitty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 10, 2014, 09:06:58 AM
I umpired at lower level national league games a number of years back and the ref and 4 umpires all get food expenses. the ref gets mileage as well.

that's it. there's no other payments that was made to him other than that.

now I haven't done umpiring in a long time but I cant imagine it changing that much since then, though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 10, 2014, 10:01:22 AM
100 odd miles round trip from belfast at say 30/40p mile - £30/£40

Considering he brought his 4 umpires there might have been 2 cars- another 30/40

Match fee ?

Lunch expenses for 5 people - £100- £150 I would guess

Is it really that hard to get to 230?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Lest just relax here for goodness sake.  All I said was, I was not aware Antrim Referees were refereeing at games outside the county other than at Inter County games.  I also was only relaying what I had been told in relation to the charge (£230.00), and I did find it a little hard to believe.  No more no less, I just though it was a bit extortionate and maybe travelled by Helicopter.  :-X 

Charges/Expenses one of the same if you ask me, but proportionately high me think's. Just an opinion of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 10, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 10, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Lest just relax here for goodness sake.  All I said was, I was not aware Antrim Referees were refereeing at games outside the county other than at Inter County games.  I also was only relaying what I had been told in relation to the charge (£230.00), and I did find it a little hard to believe.  No more no less, I just though it was a bit extortionate and maybe travelled by Helicopter.  :-X 

Charges/Expenses one of the same if you ask me, but proportionately high me think's. Just an opinion of course.

So you're going to come in gossiping like an owl doll relaying stories that a few guys from Derry told you without knowing the facts and then come off with 'Let's just relax here for goodness sake' shite??  This is someone's reputation you are putting on the line. Take a f**king redner.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 10, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 10, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 10, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Lest just relax here for goodness sake.  All I said was, I was not aware Antrim Referees were refereeing at games outside the county other than at Inter County games.  I also was only relaying what I had been told in relation to the charge (£230.00), and I did find it a little hard to believe.  No more no less, I just though it was a bit extortionate and maybe travelled by Helicopter.  :-X 

Charges/Expenses one of the same if you ask me, but proportionately high me think's. Just an opinion of course.

So you're going to come in gossiping like an owl doll relaying stories that a few guys from Derry told you without knowing the facts and then come off with 'Let's just relax here for goodness sake' shite??  This is someone's reputation you are putting on the line. Take a f**king redner.
+1

+1

As if it is not hard enough to encourage the ones we have to keep going never mind attracting new refs, without eejits like you spouting some rubbish you heard on a bar stool in south Derry.

Not only did you bring it up initially then when the facts were explained to you, you then repeated and said 'sure its only hearsay'.

Not good enough, as someone has said you dealing with someone's reputation, to be throwing around rubbish like that is not on.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on October 10, 2014, 02:35:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 10, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 10, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 10, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Lest just relax here for goodness sake.  All I said was, I was not aware Antrim Referees were refereeing at games outside the county other than at Inter County games.  I also was only relaying what I had been told in relation to the charge (£230.00), and I did find it a little hard to believe.  No more no less, I just though it was a bit extortionate and maybe travelled by Helicopter.  :-X 

Charges/Expenses one of the same if you ask me, but proportionately high me think's. Just an opinion of course.

So you're going to come in gossiping like an owl doll relaying stories that a few guys from Derry told you without knowing the facts and then come off with 'Let's just relax here for goodness sake' shite??  This is someone's reputation you are putting on the line. Take a f**king redner.
+1

+1

As if it is not hard enough to encourage the ones we have to keep going never mind attracting new refs, without eejits like you spouting some rubbish you heard on a bar stool in south Derry.

Not only did you bring it up initially then when the facts were explained to you, you then repeated and said 'sure its only hearsay'.

Not good enough, as someone has said you dealing with someone's reputation, to be throwing around rubbish like that is not on.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on October 10, 2014, 03:04:14 PM
-5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
Apologies, but I am not into ridicule or recriminations here, just relaying what I heard. As stated, I was as equally shocked not knowing the full circumstances, but I must confess, I was somewhat alarmed at the content of the conversation. End of!  (Don't shoot me, I am just the messenger)  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 10, 2014, 11:57:35 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 10, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Lest just relax here for goodness sake.  All I said was, I was not aware Antrim Referees were refereeing at games outside the county other than at Inter County games.  I also was only relaying what I had been told in relation to the charge (£230.00), and I did find it a little hard to believe.  No more no less, I just though it was a bit extortionate and maybe travelled by Helicopter.  :-X 

Charges/Expenses one of the same if you ask me, but proportionately high me think's. Just an opinion of course.

So you're going to come in gossiping like an owl doll relaying stories that a few guys from Derry told you without knowing the facts and then come off with 'Let's just relax here for goodness sake' shite??  This is someone's reputation you are putting on the line. Take a f**king redner.
Nothing to get embarrassed about or take a 'F***** Redner' as you put it.  :-[ such profanity is unnecessary and inexcusable me thinks !  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 10, 2014, 08:02:47 PM
Can't see the video but yes - ger Holden went from gort to St johns for a season or two before returning to gort. He would tell you now it was the biggest regret of his life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 11, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
On a lighter note -

I heard this last night in my local hostelry

Tis well I do remember
That bleak April day (1998)
When Martin, Gerry and cohorts
Signed our constitutional rights away

They signed upon the dotted line
A sight, thought never to be seen
And all because of the guarantee
They'd get their shillings from the Queen

(Traitors all) http://seachranaidhe1.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/1009422_204198049736263_1427304238_o.jpg

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens abu on October 11, 2014, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 11, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
On a lighter note -

I heard this last night in my local hostelry

Tis well I do remember
That bleak April day (1998)
When Martin, Gerry and cohorts
Signed our constitutional rights away

They signed upon the dotted line
A sight, thought never to be seen
And all because of the guarantee
They'd get their shillings from the Queen

(Traitors all)
[/quote

Must have been recited by an asshole full of that stuff that gives them Dutch courage.What did you do in the war Daddy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlackandAmber on October 11, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 11, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
On a lighter note -

I heard this last night in my local hostelry

Tis well I do remember
That bleak April day (1998)
When Martin, Gerry and cohorts
Signed our constitutional rights away

They signed upon the dotted line
A sight, thought never to be seen
And all because of the guarantee
They'd get their shillings from the Queen

(Traitors all)
What was he doin wastin time in his local hostelry?  Should have been out fighting for dear oul Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 11, 2014, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: BlackandAmber on October 11, 2014, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 11, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
On a lighter note -

I heard this last night in my local hostelry

Tis well I do remember
That bleak April day (1998)
When Martin, Gerry and cohorts
Signed our constitutional rights away

They signed upon the dotted line
A sight, thought never to be seen
And all because of the guarantee
They'd get their shillings from the Queen

(Traitors all)
What was he doin wastin time in his local hostelry?  Should have been out fighting for dear oul Ireland.
http://seachranaidhe1.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/1009422_204198049736263_1427304238_o.jpg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 12, 2014, 02:12:27 PM
Just on my way to Owenbeg, must remember not to stop off at The Elk on the way home, just in case there may be a few Derry wans with stories to tell (however factual/non factual).  Individuals around here are a little sensitive to factual information relating to Antrim men refereeing in Derry. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 02:54:15 PM
Good luck to all involved today. Good day for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
Extra time in owenbeg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 12, 2014, 04:53:28 PM
Seems like a cracker, great comeback by Slaughtneil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 05:23:18 PM
replay. Cushendall 3-17 slaughtneil 0-26
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 12, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 05:23:18 PM
replay. Cushendall 3-17 slaughtneil 0-26


will that be in antrim venue ? Cant be next week cause Sneil on Football final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 12, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Some smashing hurlers on that S'neil team, some powerful high fielding and super hard workers. R O'gs will be happy to get out of jail this time. they should be the fresher team in 2 weeks all the same. They need to sort out the discipline if they want to go much further.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 12, 2014, 08:54:50 PM
Well I did say that Slaughtniel should not be taken too handy, if anything they should have edged it.  The Dall have further work to do it would seem.  Far from the finished article in my reckoning.  ;D

Well done Rossa, hard luck Con Magees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 09:40:56 PM
just my opinion but to say we got out of jail doesnt tell the whole story. 15mins to go we were 5 points up & in the ascendency.man sent off that shouldnt have been. (2nd yellow a definite. 1st was after a 3rd man challenge shane pulls man out of his way( never a yellow in my book. shane stays on we win by 7 or 8 points. slaughtneil had 15 mins to put us to the sword but heres the thing. they werent able to put 14 men away beacause of a massive effort from cdall.  shameful refereeing from the man from cavan. anybody care to tell me how carson doesnt get a free near the end when a man without a hurl has him in a bear hug??? take nothing from either team here. this was an epic tussle from 2 very good teams. neil mc manus was outstanding for us yet chrissy mc kaigue was likewise for sneil & they marked each other. how often will you ever see that??? again just my humble opinion but draw on the day was the fairest result. nobody or funnily both teams could have won it. funny old game this. draw, both teams regroup & see who comes out on top next time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 09:46:16 PM
Swings and Roundabouts auld stock. Yous got lucky with Carson in the first half. Great neck muscles.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 09:52:18 PM
Granted sie but the sneil no 7 had neil around the neck early in the 2nd half. & yes we could go on all night about this all im sayin is as well as talkin bout us gettin out of jail lets also talk bout sneil unable to put 14 men away when the game was at their mercy & that was down to a huge effort by cdall all over the park.no we might not be the finished article but by christ that showed some character to cling on there today?? . also SIE give me your HONEST assessment of the refereeing today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
Honestly. I think your free in the last minute of ordinary time wasn't a free. Or Even close to a free. But you roll with the punches. Take what you get and make the most of it. And you did. Fair play to you. That's one get out of jail card you've used.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
us & sneil then they used theirs too. as i said 5 points up 15mins to go. dubious at best sending off.only for it we win by 7 or 8. SIE i asked for you r honest assessment of todays referee.overall what kind of job did he do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
us & sneil then they used theirs too. as i said 5 points up 15mins to go. dubious at best sending off.only for it we win by 7 or 8. SIE i asked for you r honest assessment of todays referee.overall what kind of job did he do?
so. Let's ignore the fact that conor should have seen the line then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 10:17:20 PM
You know auld stock. This is championship hurling in ulster. You get what you get. You put your head down and get on with it. You are still in it. Nothing was lost today.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
yeah lets ignore conor should have went & shane shouldnt. with that u have actually said so much more than you wanted about the ref. thanks. anyhow with this let me return to the relative sanity of the area outside the keyboard where i have watched this thread develop for the last couple of years. and thanks for reminding me why i have sat there as a frustrated disbelieving non entity. and there i shall remain. ps you're right about one thing. we havent lost anything ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2014, 05:36:27 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 13, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
us & sneil then they used theirs too. as i said 5 points up 15mins to go. dubious at best sending off.only for it we win by 7 or 8. SIE i asked for you r honest assessment of todays referee.overall what kind of job did he do?
so. Let's ignore the fact that conor should have seen the line then?

Your begrudgery knows no bounds, SIE. Give the Dall some credit ffs.
???

I've no idea what you're going on about mickey. The referee favoured slaughtneil most of the game. No doubt about that. That doesn't take away from the fact that conor head butted an opponent. That is a straight red isn't it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 13, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2014, 05:36:27 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on October 13, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 12, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
us & sneil then they used theirs too. as i said 5 points up 15mins to go. dubious at best sending off.only for it we win by 7 or 8. SIE i asked for you r honest assessment of todays referee.overall what kind of job did he do?
so. Let's ignore the fact that conor should have seen the line then?

Your begrudgery knows no bounds, SIE. Give the Dall some credit ffs.
???

I've no idea what you're going on about mickey. The referee favoured slaughtneil most of the game. No doubt about that. That doesn't take away from the fact that conor head butted an opponent. That is a straight red isn't it?

Who gives a fúck how the referee actually performed, what's more important is what he claimed on expenses and what people in South Derry think of it.

I presume the replay will be in Ballycastle, no?

On a side note we got beat by the Johnnies yesterday by five points, so thats us down into Div2. Time to rebuild.
Preparations were badly hampered by a load of lads away on a stag do in Dublin at the darts in the city west, two players didn't make it back up till half time..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on October 13, 2014, 09:20:43 AM
Conor Did headbutt Sean Cassidy (3), but in retaliation he pulled Conors faceguard immediately after the headbutt which I always thought was also a Red card for interference of the helmet? So in fairness If one had to go so did the other surely, Open to correction on the Faceguard pulling though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 13, 2014, 09:28:19 AM
I made it to Owenbeg yesterday - great conditions given the time of year.
Really exciting game and I agree the ref was poor. Too many inconsistent calls (opinin I suppose) but the red card decisions were not open to interpretation and he called them wrong - thats plain stuff!
Slaughtneil brought a fantastic ethic (and support) to the game and I get the impression they will believe they can win the replay - I'm not so sure. Another big football game this weekend will take it's toll while Cushendall have nothing else in their sights but getting the job done. They'll need a couple more players to figure strongly tho.

Slightly different note it was nice for the Derry Wans to give a ticket when paying in - never happened when the final was in Casement for some reason!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
Will video evidence be called upon here? Headbutting in a hurling match has to be the silliest way to get a red card. Its like pulling across someone with pipe lagging.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 13, 2014, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
Will video evidence be called upon here? Headbutting in a hurling match has to be the silliest way to get a red card. Its like pulling across someone with pipe lagging.

Pure bonkers, just as much as punching someone in the faceguard, never could understand that one either, no better way of relieving your knuckles off a bit of flesh.

3K plus at a club hurling game in Ulster, not bad going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
The reffing was typical of an Ulster hurling final, without mentioning any names i think we have all seen worse. Doesn't really matter now anyway. C'dall could have folded but didnt and with a small bit more composure could have nicked it, but will still be happy enough taking another crack at it.  As a neutral I'd happily head to Owenbeg again, i've never experienced it on a bad day though but couldn't be much worse than B'castle. They could drop the blades on the mower a nick if i was to criticize anything. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 13, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 13, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
The reffing was typical of an Ulster hurling final, without mentioning any names i think we have all seen worse. Doesn't really matter now anyway. C'dall could have folded but didnt and with a small bit more composure could have nicked it, but will still be happy enough taking another crack at it.  As a neutral I'd happily head to Owenbeg again, i've never experienced it on a bad day though but couldn't be much worse than B'castle. They could drop the blades on the mower a nick if i was to criticize anything.

Talking to the Rossa lads this morning and they were not happy with their ref despite winning.
Player down injured but ref refused to stop game and gave hop ball because keeper didnt puck it out with injured lad in front of him.
Also umpires and ref gave a wide but linesman awarded point - the Rossa tinted glasses inisted it was wide and no Keady player complained.
Did Glenravel have bad luck anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 13, 2014, 03:38:32 PM
Replay confirmed for 26th, no venue yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2014, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 13, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
The reffing was typical of an Ulster hurling final, without mentioning any names i think we have all seen worse. Doesn't really matter now anyway. C'dall could have folded but didnt and with a small bit more composure could have nicked it, but will still be happy enough taking another crack at it.  As a neutral I'd happily head to Owenbeg again, i've never experienced it on a bad day though but couldn't be much worse than B'castle. They could drop the blades on the mower a nick if i was to criticize anything.

Hmmm!! I hope you ain't talking about me there lol!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D

had little altercation with Last man on Sat at match. I kidda lost it after he questioned my fitness lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D

had little altercation with Last man on Sat at match. I kidda lost it after he questioned my fitness lol

I take you whipped out the garmin stats on a yellow coloured sheet/card?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 14, 2014, 07:21:16 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:35:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D

had little altercation with Last man on Sat at match. I kidda lost it after he questioned my fitness lol

I take you whipped out the garmin stats on a yellow coloured sheet/card?  :)
I'd say the satellite thought he was one of the pitch flags, the only thing moving was his head. :-))
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2014, 08:18:04 AM
So he only runs in division 1 and saves himself in the lower leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2014, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D

JA Gribben was a great referee if you play by the rules,  ;)
He may have been a bit tight on the physical stuff, but there was no doubt in anyones mind what way the free was going once he blew that whistle.

His two gun salute (pre red card days) are a thing of legend when showing you to the line.

Strangely, him and I got on well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 14, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 14, 2014, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Is your name John Anthony?  ;D

JA Gribben was a great referee if you play by the rules,  ;)
He may have been a bit tight on the physical stuff, but there was no doubt in anyones mind what way the free was going once he blew that whistle.

His two gun salute (pre red card days) are a thing of legend when showing you to the line.

Strangely, him and I got on well.

He had the unique ability to leave both sets of teams and supporters completely dumb-founded.
Only matched by a Garrett's ability to leave them both enraged!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 14, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
nice to see at least 9 hurling matches on for Sunday at same time as County football final. 16 of the clubs are from Antrim and im sure at least some of the players and supporters from these clubs would have liked to watch the Galls v Cargin game.

There is definitely no rhyme or reason to the way fixtures are put on or the importance shown to a showpiece final in this county. I understand there is a "two different codes" argument to this, but we are the one association with one County board. not a Football board and a Hurling board pushing in different directions but it does feel like that at times. very frustrating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on October 14, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
Dual clubs are an inconvenience...
:-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 14, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
Quote from: jdyok on October 14, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
Dual clubs are an inconvenience...
:-\
Dual clubs are not an inconvenience, just an excuse!

Other than this years All Ireland Hurling Final on first Sunday (Sept 14), Sniel v Dall was the 2nd best game I have seen this year, mighty stuff indeed.  Quite happy to take my loss with PP on Slaughtniel by 2.  Owenbeg was in great shape also and apart from referees performance, it was a superb game. Demonstrative of the standard of hurling refereeing in Ulster all the same, extremely poor. (And no I didn't stop off at The Elk for some more stimulating conversation with old Derry mates).  Just stopped off at the Gravediggers instead, a few scoops and then packing my work bag for early start in London on Monday. The joys of an exile plumber, you folk have it easy at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 14, 2014, 08:18:04 AM
So he only runs in division 1 and saves himself in the lower leagues?

Hey!! I'd done full gym session that morning that included a spin session!! I upped the pace a bit more in the second half ;)

So people are never happy lol. It's funny though that the ones that complain about keeping up with play are standing in the same position as you and see something different!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
I hear the replay is in loughgiel 26th October.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 14, 2014, 11:21:33 PM
Good call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 15, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
Rossa go to Owenbeg at the same time?
Decisions decisions!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 15, 2014, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
I hear the replay is in loughgiel 26th October.

Is this the Ulster council finally making sense and reverting to a home/away type arrangement in the absence of Casement?

Hopefully it is as then surely the Down champions are due a home fixture for once. so Ports can look forward to the winners of the replay playing in Ballycran at the very least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 15, 2014, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 15, 2014, 10:25:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
I hear the replay is in loughgiel 26th October.

Is this the Ulster council finally making sense and reverting to a home/away type arrangement in the absence of Casement?

Hopefully it is as then surely the Down champions are due a home fixture for once. so Ports can look forward to the winners of the replay playing in Ballycran at the very least.


Wouldn't think finals would come into the Home and Away bracket. Think Owenbeg would be seen as a good venue to hold the final considering the clubs involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 15, 2014, 10:41:03 AM
Well if its Slaughneil, then no, its not a good venue and even if its Cushendall, its a fair bit closer to Owenbeg than Portaferry who had to go 100 miles plus to Clones when for Lisbellaw it was just 20 odd mile down the road,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 15, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 14, 2014, 08:18:04 AM
So he only runs in division 1 and saves himself in the lower leagues?

Hey!! I'd done full gym session that morning that included a spin session!! I upped the pace a bit more in the second half ;)

So people are never happy lol. It's funny though that the ones that complain about keeping up with play are standing in the same position as you and see something different!!

I knew the truth would come out and i would be vindicated eventually ;D. .....and here, you might be fit but i think swimming up the Newry canal has left  you half blind ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on October 15, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Final is set for Athletic Grounds in Armagh I think  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2014, 09:28:15 AM
The worst I've seen in recent years was Paudraig Mahers wild one handed swing which smashed Michael Rices hand so agree with the point being made by MR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 16, 2014, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

IMHO that yellow was one of the very few decisions the ref got right.

If Shane hadn't got sent off, i think we would have won the game even though we played so poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.



I said I wasn't there so can't comment on that incident, I was only asking if he connected with the ball as in was only looking at the ball and not doing it with intent. Any dipstick will know whether he pulled with intent, and you don't have to have been a player or referee to understand that. Within the rules there is cards for what would be perceived as a dangerous pull.

I've played long enough to know the difference NAG so no need to be playing silly games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.

So you'd be concerned that the follow through may connect with the defender irrespective if the ball is struck by the attacker or not?

Has your opponent not got a responsibility to protect themselves?

TBH, I've advocated to some of our smaller forwards who get pulled to pieces by defenders to fake the lift and double on the ball first time every once in a while to get them a bit more space the next time.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.



I said I wasn't there so can't comment on that incident, I was only asking if he connected with the ball as in was only looking at the ball and not doing it with intent. Any dipstick will know whether he pulled with intent, and you don't have to have been a player or referee to understand that. Within the rules there is cards for what would be perceived as a dangerous pull.

I've played long enough to know the difference NAG so no need to be playing silly games

Not playing silly games, was just taken a back by your statement. I'm not talking about intent I was talking about the type of shout you hear all the time, sure the ball was there. The initial intent may well be to try and play the ball but in doing so you are endangering an opponent then that is dangerous play IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.

So you'd be concerned that the follow through may connect with the defender irrespective if the ball is struck by the attacker or not?

Has your opponent not got a responsibility to protect themselves?

TBH, I've advocated to some of our smaller forwards who get pulled to pieces by defenders to fake the lift and double on the ball first time every once in a while to get them a bit more space the next time.

I am not as concerned by the forward stepping to the side with the fake lift and pulling on a ball below the knee as the defender should always be able to get themselves protected or out of the way of that.

I am talking specifically about the ball bouncing up higher and the forward stepping to the side pulling on a ball between waist and head height knowing that the defender wont be able to avoid. Follow through going to hit the defender giving him no opportunity to protect himself. To me that is an instance of dangerous play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.



I said I wasn't there so can't comment on that incident, I was only asking if he connected with the ball as in was only looking at the ball and not doing it with intent. Any dipstick will know whether he pulled with intent, and you don't have to have been a player or referee to understand that. Within the rules there is cards for what would be perceived as a dangerous pull.

I've played long enough to know the difference NAG so no need to be playing silly games

Not playing silly games, was just taken a back by your statement. I'm not talking about intent I was talking about the type of shout you hear all the time, sure the ball was there. The initial intent may well be to try and play the ball but in doing so you are endangering an opponent then that is dangerous play IMO.

I've always blew for wild pulling, and I doubt you could find a game that I didn't. differentiating from the intent and the accidental (which is still a foul btw) is simple enough, generally you could blow the whistle before he strikes the ball (or attempts to)

I see you never took issues with the last part regarding Shanes tackling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.



I said I wasn't there so can't comment on that incident, I was only asking if he connected with the ball as in was only looking at the ball and not doing it with intent. Any dipstick will know whether he pulled with intent, and you don't have to have been a player or referee to understand that. Within the rules there is cards for what would be perceived as a dangerous pull.

I've played long enough to know the difference NAG so no need to be playing silly games

Not playing silly games, was just taken a back by your statement. I'm not talking about intent I was talking about the type of shout you hear all the time, sure the ball was there. The initial intent may well be to try and play the ball but in doing so you are endangering an opponent then that is dangerous play IMO.

I've always blew for wild pulling, and I doubt you could find a game that I didn't. differentiating from the intent and the accidental (which is still a foul btw) is simple enough, generally you could blow the whistle before he strikes the ball (or attempts to)

I see you never took issues with the last part regarding Shanes tackling?

I wasnt overly taking issue with you as a ref MR2, i know that it is a tough job, it was just that comment that has grated on me for a while. Sure the ball was there!

To me anyone pulling above the waist coming onto a ball knowing they will hit the defender on the follow (starting with that intent or not) is dangerous play.

No have no issue with the other element on SMcN tackling, he must take that from the aul boy.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
The two incidents happened on the terrace side, I was in the stand so it was hard to say if either time the ball was hit. the crowd were roaring like hell each time for a foul/card/sending off which I think influenced the desission each time.

to me if the balls coming knee height at pace and the attacker pulls on it then its fair game. if the defender gets caught with the follow through by accident its tough love time. I was a defender and its happened a few times, I accepted the slap, maybe moaned about it but you accepted that its a tough game.

the ref gave sneill serious amount of fouls during the game, a lot were very very soft IMO. cdall did get some soft ones as well, Neil mc manus tries to buy fouls now it seems by throwing his arms in the air in a tackle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 16, 2014, 01:51:06 PM
So the referee kept the balloobas in the game? Reading between the lines Cushendall will win handy the next day out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2014, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 01:42:47 PM
The two incidents happened on the terrace side, I was in the stand so it was hard to say if either time the ball was hit. the crowd were roaring like hell each time for a foul/card/sending off which I think influenced the desission each time.

to me if the balls coming knee height at pace and the attacker pulls on it then its fair game. if the defender gets caught with the follow through by accident its tough love time. I was a defender and its happened a few times, I accepted the slap, maybe moaned about it but you accepted that its a tough game.

the ref gave sneill serious amount of fouls during the game, a lot were very very soft IMO. cdall did get some soft ones as well, Neil mc manus tries to buy fouls now it seems by throwing his arms in the air in a tackle.

That's becoming all too common now, defender stands his ground, attacker can't run straight through him, so throws both arms up in the air in a 'look at me, I'm being impeded' type thing..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 16, 2014, 01:51:06 PM
So the referee kept the balloobas in the game? Reading between the lines Cushendall will win handy the next day out.
They'd have to be big favourites alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 16, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 16, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
went to game on sunday myself. what a great game for a neutral to watch, I loved every min of it.

I thought cdall got out of jail, they didn't play well but you have to admire them for sticking at it to stay level. I thought sneill had it when they went up by a point near the death but the dall fought back and scored a free again.

sneill were def the better team and will be disappointed at not winning it.

thought the ref was poor, as others have said. personally I didn't think Shane should have walked. the ball was there to be pulled on, is it foul to do so? im not a ref but natty done the same in the first half and got booked and I thought there was nothing wrong with it. Big carson should have walked for the head butt though.

Wasn't at the game but did he connect with the ball when he pulled? All well and good if he connects with the ball but if he hits the player then it's down to whether the referee thinks he was late and in being late could be seen as being dangerous?? Should there be a difference in pulling low on a ball late or when the ball is in the air and pulling late?

Shane has picked up his fair share of cards recently over the years, he can't tackle, great hurler but his tackling is borderline (from a referees view) I like that personally, as a player but some referees look at it differently. Think he came late on against us and picked up a tick or a booking

To me I think this is a really surprising statement for a ref to come out with.

He can still hit the ball and pulling in a dangerous manner, it is not always appropriate or safe to be pulling and I always think this makes the difference between a ref who knows the game and a ref who knows the rules.

If a defender is rushing out to the ball behind a forward and it bounces up say head height, to me a forward turning into the defender and pulling is an act of dangerous play regardless if he strikes the ball, the follow through is always going to hit the defender and this could be anywhere above the waist of the defender. That is dangerous.

Always a sign to me that a forward is slightly lacking bottle when you see them coming out and swinging wildly on a ball like that.



I said I wasn't there so can't comment on that incident, I was only asking if he connected with the ball as in was only looking at the ball and not doing it with intent. Any dipstick will know whether he pulled with intent, and you don't have to have been a player or referee to understand that. Within the rules there is cards for what would be perceived as a dangerous pull.

I've played long enough to know the difference NAG so no need to be playing silly games

Not playing silly games, was just taken a back by your statement. I'm not talking about intent I was talking about the type of shout you hear all the time, sure the ball was there. The initial intent may well be to try and play the ball but in doing so you are endangering an opponent then that is dangerous play IMO.

I've always blew for wild pulling, and I doubt you could find a game that I didn't. differentiating from the intent and the accidental (which is still a foul btw) is simple enough, generally you could blow the whistle before he strikes the ball (or attempts to)

I see you never took issues with the last part regarding Shanes tackling?

I wasnt overly taking issue with you as a ref MR2, i know that it is a tough job, it was just that comment that has grated on me for a while. Sure the ball was there!

To me anyone pulling above the waist coming onto a ball knowing they will hit the defender on the follow (starting with that intent or not) is dangerous play.

No have no issue with the other element on SMcN tackling, he must take that from the aul boy.  ;)
Shane and young C use this move a couple of times in most games, I reckon its intended to put manners on their markers primarily but no doubt its on the edge and C got a yellow for one of his if my memory serves me right. They have a few other moves but I'll leave you to catch them out yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2014, 06:51:49 PM
Don't think we can generalise about when a pull can be deemed dangerous / deliberate. Think each incident must be looked at on its own merit.
I also hate refs taking things I. The context of the game or the player concerned - each incident should be viewed as it is. Refs putting their own slant on things can lead to frustration and games getting away from the hurling.

But I must say I agree fully with the increasing trend in buying frees. McNanus thinks he's cute enough to do this - I think refs put a marker down that they aren't buying it. Granted that's easier said than done and can again lead to a breakdown.

For me the key thing is consistency on all calls - it eliminates the issue - players understand the calls.

Although as a caveat I fully appreciate this is easy said from a keyboard!
Wouldn't be a ref no matter what Derry paid me in expenses!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2014, 06:51:49 PM
Don't think we can generalise about when a pull can be deemed dangerous / deliberate. Think each incident must be looked at on its own merit.
I also hate refs taking things I. The context of the game or the player concerned - each incident should be viewed as it is. Refs putting their own slant on things can lead to frustration and games getting away from the hurling.

But I must say I agree fully with the increasing trend in buying frees. McNanus thinks he's cute enough to do this - I think refs put a marker down that they aren't buying it. Granted that's easier said than done and can again lead to a breakdown.

For me the key thing is consistency on all calls - it eliminates the issue - players understand the calls.

Although as a caveat I fully appreciate this is easy said from a keyboard!
Wouldn't be a ref no matter what Derry paid me in expenses!

Slight contradiction from you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 16, 2014, 07:30:47 PM
Late is late, early is early, intent is intent -  should a  ball be lose and available ankle to knee high, knee to hip, hip to head, it is there to be played.  Any referee worth his salt (well most referees anyway) would explicitly know the difference between a dirty intentional strike, a wild pull or careless use of the stick.  Bottom line, rules is rules and are not open to interpretation, herein lies the problem with referees.

You may then argue that common sense would prevail, but most savvy refs know the fundamental difference between a late or early pull, and where there is intent to injure or inflict serious damage.  Is that not common sense?

Anyway, Sniel by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 16, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
Ahh the ol' ball was there cry. The ultimate cowards way out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 16, 2014, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 16, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
Ahh the ol' ball was there cry. The ultimate cowards way out.
Very true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 17, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
if the balls there to be played then its fair game, if and mean if you aren't going to hurt someone to do so. if the defender gets out in front and the attacker pulls on it and hits the defender then yes its a foul but in a 50/50 situation the balls there for both players to have a go.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 17, 2014, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
if the balls there to be played then its fair game, if and mean if you aren't going to hurt someone to do so. if the defender gets out in front and the attacker pulls on it and hits the defender then yes its a foul but in a 50/50 situation the balls there for both players to have a go.
If the defender gets out in front then surely the fwd will be looking to flick the ball to his advantage, as long as he has denied the defender clean possession then he has him rattled. Why horse the timber in to him, concede the foul, free out, chance gone. Maybe i'm being too nice???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: Last Man on October 17, 2014, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
if the balls there to be played then its fair game, if and mean if you aren't going to hurt someone to do so. if the defender gets out in front and the attacker pulls on it and hits the defender then yes its a foul but in a 50/50 situation the balls there for both players to have a go.
If the defender gets out in front then surely the fwd will be looking to flick the ball to his advantage, as long as he has denied the defender clean possession then he has him rattled. Why horse the timber in to him, concede the foul, free out, chance gone. Maybe i'm being too nice???

If you were able to catch him Last Man you'd have given him timber  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.

And I remember one at Casement when Wilson when playing for Down, was caught on the knee, now that one was done with intent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 17, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.

And I remember one at Casement when Wilson when playing for Down, was caught on the knee, now that one was done with intent

if its the same Wilson im thinking of (Simon) he gave a right bit of Timber out himself. wasn't slow to pull 0n a 30/70 ball and clean right through ye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 17, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.

And I remember one at Casement when Wilson when playing for Down, was caught on the knee, now that one was done with intent

Was it during an Ulster final?? bout 10 Year ago??  LW??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 17, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.

And I remember one at Casement when Wilson when playing for Down, was caught on the knee, now that one was done with intent

Was it during an Ulster final?? bout 10 Year ago??  LW??

10 points  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 17, 2014, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 17, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.

And I remember one at Casement when Wilson when playing for Down, was caught on the knee, now that one was done with intent


Was it during an Ulster final?? bout 10 Year ago??  LW??

10 points  ;)

Poor LW. You guys always have it in for him  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 17, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
If the ball is loose and in play, any player has the right to pull on it.  Faking the dipped ball in front of the oncoming defender, a very good ploy.  It's not a dirty action just a clever action.   The defender will think twice about the next incoming ball.  Simple solution, defender gets out in front of his marker or side on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 17, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 17, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
If the ball is loose and in play, any player has the right to pull on it.  Faking the dipped ball in front of the oncoming defender, a very good ploy.  It's not a dirty action just a clever action.   The defender will think twice about the next incoming ball.  Simple solution, defender gets out in front of his marker or side on.

That's just nonsense and incredibly cynical, lure an opponent into a belt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 17, 2014, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 17, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 17, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
If the ball is loose and in play, any player has the right to pull on it.  Faking the dipped ball in front of the oncoming defender, a very good ploy.  It's not a dirty action just a clever action.   The defender will think twice about the next incoming ball.  Simple solution, defender gets out in front of his marker or side on.

That's just nonsense and incredibly cynical, lure an opponent into a belt!
You are taking things out of context here me thinks, not once have I mentioned belting, striking or injuring someone, have I?  At all times I have made specific reference to striking the ball. :-X  Your sidekick is obviously one of the new boys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 18, 2014, 03:21:24 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.
i think you'll find it was a Loughgiel man got his jaw broke. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 18, 2014, 09:28:45 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 18, 2014, 03:21:24 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 17, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
A Dunloy player had his jaw broken in Casement a few years back by one of these pulls, against Loughgiel.
i think you'll find it was a Loughgiel man got his jaw broke.
100%

It was a loughgiel man who 'tried' to break someone's jaw with one of those wild pulls but didn't succeed.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2014, 04:55:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 17, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
if the balls there to be played then its fair game, if and mean if you aren't going to hurt someone to do so. if the defender gets out in front and the attacker pulls on it and hits the defender then yes its a foul but in a 50/50 situation the balls there for both players to have a go.
Totally agree, if the ball in loose and two players contesting, its fair game. No cynicism in that, well in my book anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Slaughtneil are Derry football champions. What a year for them. They'll be buzzing for next Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2014, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Slaughtneil are Derry football champions. What a year for them. They'll be buzzing for next Sunday.
If they get outta Celtic Park alive.....
I dare say they can hold their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on October 19, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
Word coming through about Ref getting roughed up at lamhs v creggan game this afternoon, supporters and players having a go, end of year madness descends once more. Lads not fearing suspensions this time of year, wee man will love this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 19, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2014, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 19, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
Word coming through about Ref getting roughed up at lamhs v creggan game this afternoon, supporters and players having a go, end of year madness descends once more. Lads not fearing suspensions this time of year, wee man will love this.
WTF? Just saw the score, a 15 point watering match. How could the ref get the blame??
Lamhs are nowhere near Creggans level this season but i get the impression from a few of their fellas that they were seriously going for a promotion spot. GD will be getting full value now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 19, 2014, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 19, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 19, 2014, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on October 19, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
Word coming through about Ref getting roughed up at lamhs v creggan game this afternoon, supporters and players having a go, end of year madness descends once more. Lads not fearing suspensions this time of year, wee man will love this.
WTF? Just saw the score, a 15 point watering match. How could the ref get the blame??
Lamhs are nowhere near Creggans level this season but i get the impression from a few of their fellas that they were seriously going for a promotion spot. GD will be getting full value now.



Common denominator me thinks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 19, 2014, 09:21:11 PM
Poor Garrett - lovely bloke just out doing his best for the game.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 20, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 19, 2014, 09:21:11 PM
Poor Garrett - lovely bloke just out doing his best for the game.  ;)
Most likely, just another case of attention seeking and further attempts to raise personal profile with the County Exec??? Maybe not. ???

On another related note, there is a propensity to knock our county board here.  Worth remembering all the same, we are all culpable, make mistakes and lets not forget, we are all volunteers.

With regard to the Lamhs v Ciceams shamozzle, Liathróidi (cojones)as before, are sure to drop off again. On good authority, I hear he is bidding fo County Chairmans position next, but you cannot always believe what your'e told?

me blowlamp has just run out of gas, anyone got two 90 degree compression bends?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 20, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
It was just handbags I hear nothing to write home about, who's running for chairman? Duffy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2014, 04:38:20 PM
ahoghill in div 1 hurling next year. well done to them, they have done serious work over the past number of years to get this far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2014, 06:14:40 PM
Agreed - ahoghill are a fantastic club!

Is wee joe not our imminent chairman unopposed?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 20, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt link=topic=1347.msg1411986#msg1411986 date

Is wee joe not our imminent chairman unopposed?!
/quote]


Jesus Wept
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 21, 2014, 03:33:14 PM
That will never happen in a million years, the powers at be within UC will insure that a suitable candidate takes the platform against him, and if he is stupid enough not to realise that his face would never be an acceptable one then he deserves all he gets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 21, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: blueblood on October 21, 2014, 03:33:14 PM
That will never happen in a million years, the powers at be within UC will insure that a suitable candidate takes the platform against him, and if he is stupid enough not to realise that his face would never be an acceptable one then he deserves all he gets.
Never realised there was still the appetite for internal politics like this in Antrim or Ulster. i'd say he would be well able for the politics.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 21, 2014, 06:42:33 PM
Get real here, this is West Belfast and Antrim. Of course there will always be political and corrupt undertones associated with such positions. The Shinners influence on the periphery is not to be underestimated either, now with the potential social and economic return at the new Casement.  Like rats they will want more than the miserly crumbs from the table.
Wee Joe would suit some, while an opportunist like your man would serve another. Least said maybe? Thank goodness I am far removed from it having to work in England during the course of the week.

Its all part and parcel of our failures to perform on the field of play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 21, 2014, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 21, 2014, 06:42:33 PM
Get real here, this is West Belfast and Antrim. Of course there will always be political and corrupt undertones associated with such positions. The Shinners influence on the periphery is not to be underestimated either, now with the potential social and economic return at the new Casement.  Like rats they will want more than the miserly crumbs from the table.
Wee Joe would suit some, while an opportunist like your man would serve another. Least said maybe? Thank goodness I am far removed from it having to work in England during the course of the week.

Its all part and parcel of our failures to perform on the field of play.
Still has to be voted in, whoever is parachuted in will have to be a credible candidate to get the Joe haters vote. Will be interesting to watch it play out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 21, 2014, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Whoever gets parachuted in will need to meet the criteria....

Must be in the Knights of St Columbanus.
That being the case, we are sure to get another deceitful hypocrite. Heavens above, do we deserve such tyrants?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2014, 08:53:29 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2014, 07:16:04 PM
Whoever gets parachuted in will need to meet the criteria....

Must be in the Knights of St Columbanus.

the Knights who say Neeeee would be more apt for our county board  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 22, 2014, 10:22:54 AM
Well if things continue to go on they'll need a white one on a horse, irrespective of the wee man and his mis-guided aspirations, the Dunsilly debacle needs to be outted and who has made the cluster feck of that project, some serious questions need to be asked at the AGM.

Who appointed the consultants?
By what process where they appointed?
Who ajudicated over this process and how open and transparent was it?
Where the clubs informed or consulted?
Was the advice given by said consultants actioned by CC and in due course the clubs?
Now the cluster feck has been identified i.e Access, Translink etc who will compensate/pay for not highlighting these issues along with others that will eventually cost the clubs/volunteers.
Who is accountable/responsible for the issues that have arisen or do we know?Or are the clubs asking questions?
Ultimately who will pay?

These are some of the issues i would be keen to know and if someone or some entity has made fundemental mistakes and are culpable then what are the actions arising from this?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 22, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Its been a while since I heard anything on Dunsilly. In a nutshell, can someone describe what is stopping progress/completion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 22, 2014, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 22, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Its been a while since I heard anything on Dunsilly. In a nutshell, can someone describe what is stopping progress/completion?

There's a dead end with planning / access, and money.

Blueblood has already raised the most pertinent questions.

How in hell this has got this far is beyond me - if this ocurred in any business there'd be people collecting P45's long ago.
Its bad enought the top table has too much unfettered power, but when that is mixed with incompetence then the effects will be felt for generations to come.

Throw in the Casement debacle and it the entire set-up beggars belief - except in Antrim.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
most people you speak to just generally accept that we are playing in ballycastle and ahoghill for the long term.

I actually forgot all about dunsilly if im honest. that's how bad its got now, the fact that we don't even care anymore about it.

who ever made a balls up of this is def hiding it pretty well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 22, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 22, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
most people you speak to just generally accept that we are playing in ballycastle and ahoghill for the long term.

I actually forgot all about dunsilly if im honest. that's how bad its got now, the fact that we don't even care anymore about it.

who ever made a balls up of this is def hiding it pretty well

Totally agree with this, most people have forgotten about it. This project kicked off when J McSparran was in charge and looked to be all under control. Its such a shame when you look at the excellent job that Derry have done with Owenbeg and compare that to the mess we are in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
def, ownebeg is brilliant. the parking is grand and your into the match, good seats and dry and the games over the your out and through dungiven in mins.

was it problems over that railway bridge and planning issues or did it just run out of money?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on October 22, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
Think the last update at a county meeting ages ago mentioned that planning was being sought for the changing rooms (road side of the railway line) and that there were also offices and car parking as a separate phase depending on money.

The whole thing has been a cluster fcuk from the day St. Comgalls talked County exec into joining forces to create this monster!  They should have stuck to their guns with the green-field site that was bought (and still owned?) at Ballygrooby during McSparrans time, that would have been a straight forward construction project with little or no issues concerning access / archaeological digs etc. (hear that one cost the guts of £1m!)

Pitches at Dunsilly were sowed out and ready a few years ago and then left to ruin as nobody was maintaining them - so they had to be re-sown costing more money! 

Money is the main problem with progress at Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2014, 04:20:27 PM
I don't understand how in gods name the current board has the balls to actually stand for re-election based on the utter messes that have been made this past year or so.

its embarrassing now. no wait, its beyond that now. I know personally the amount of work that goes into our club to maintain what we have from good hard working people who do it for the love of it and not any reward. if we had of made them sort of mistakes that the county have they wouldn't be in their positions nor would we have a club as good as it is.

there was a good article in the Irish News last week where in the column section at the back (was it Philip Jordan?) and he talked about counties appointing new managers. the Antrim one was mentioned in it. the fact our county turned down a 5 year development plan to penny pinch it seemed along with the current county board was criticised.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 22, 2014, 05:03:12 PM
Ya see, its all part of the weil west mentality and who is going to be in control!

Suggestion, whilst simplistic, move on with the entire Casement Development at the Dunsilly site?  No problems with height, parking, residents etc. etc.  Antrim GAA stadium in ANTRIM town, just off M2 slip road  Sell the Casement lands to the Shinners or who ever bids enough for it, and let them build houses, medical centres, CABs, Sinn Fein Cuman's or pubs on it???

Appoint a County Chief Executive, draw up a 5 year Antrim Development plan, dispose of all the rest of the hangers on i.e.(current county Exec), make the Antrim CEO responsible and accountable to All county Antrim Clubs, appraise the CEO and the progress of the Antrim Development plan on an annual basis.  If the plan and the CEO are not stacking up, just shaft the CEO and get someone else more competent and adept????

Progress and accountability at last, me thinks  ::).

May sound a little RADICAL & EXTREME to some, but accountability means everything in my book.  In the grand scale of things, our County Exec has never been accountable to the clubs.  Everything starts and finishes with the clubs at the end of the day, not with individuals, Knights, Shinners etc. but with accountable, adept and visionary individuals, who have the defined aspiration and desire of leading our county out of the utter shambles it is currently in.  Now, all get you tenners out and sign up to Club Aontroma  ;D.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 22, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)

Things have got better for the full time secretaries, that's about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 22, 2014, 05:44:32 PM
This is one of those threads you find yourself nodding in agreement with many comments from other posters!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 22, 2014, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)

All its brought is more subservience AFAICS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 23, 2014, 10:41:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2014, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)

All its brought is more subservience AFAICS.

I'd be in agreement there as our full time secretary did absolutely SFA when the Ulster council insisted that our hurlers play two days in a row due to a load of bungling in setting a date for a Ulster hurling final last/this year.
So,
  if we lost the services of these paid servants would we be any worse off?

FWIW,
     I have not seen any great improvement in the standards of hurling even with these full time coaches floating around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on October 23, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2014, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)

All its brought is more subservience AFAICS.

Pay a man to tell (email) volunteers what they must do!
When does his contract finish? Might alloy, handy wee number.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 23, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on October 23, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 22, 2014, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 22, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Do you not feel since the inception of the full time county secretaries funded by the Ulster Council that organisationally things have got better, slicker, no?

8)

All its brought is more subservience AFAICS.

Pay a man to tell (email) volunteers what they must do!
When does his contract finish? Might alloy, handy wee number.
are you a Knight, a Shinner or a crackpot????  If no, don't apply  ;D.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
Still nodding here  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2014, 10:43:31 PM
So why are the Knights who run other counties, do so well? Are the Antrim Knights just rubbish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 23, 2014, 10:56:11 PM
Knights or Shinners, Priests etc. (pillars of society who we are supposed to revere) same thing really, all would betray you,  just as easily. 

You could incorporate a few other individuals, known to be members of other clandestine and sinister organisations.  It is rumoured a few referees among them also, but just what I have been told of course, I cannot confirm it's substance.  Possibly rumour, speculation, hearsay, but one never knows, does one?  Worrying all the same.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 24, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
The Prelature of the Holy Cross or better known as Opus Dei!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
so what about Rossa and Cushendalls chances this weekend then?

Rossa will get it tight against coleraine. was impressed with them in their semi final win though they relied on the McGolderick brothers very heavily in the game.

coleraine were unlucky last year in losing to Cloney after extra time so I fancy them to go one further and win this by 2 points.

when will Cushendall kick into life? all throughout the antrim championship they were flat and against Sneill they looked flat. with Sneill winning the football last week it might have eaten into them a bit. Cushendall may have the edge with that. saying that Sneill will be well up for this.

im saying a 1 point win for Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 24, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
so what about Rossa and Cushendalls chances this weekend then?

Rossa will get it tight against coleraine. was impressed with them in their semi final win though they relied on the McGolderick brothers very heavily in the game.

coleraine were unlucky last year in losing to Cloney after extra time so I fancy them to go one further and win this by 2 points.

when will Cushendall kick into life? all throughout the antrim championship they were flat and against Sneill they looked flat. with Sneill winning the football last week it might have eaten into them a bit. Cushendall may have the edge with that. saying that Sneill will be well up for this.

im saying a 1 point win for Cushendall.
Rossa will win with a bit to spare IMO, Cushendall have another gear in them but will they find it against a team in a very good place mentally. If Sean Delargy is back will certainly help them and I'm sure they've been working on the forward play this past fortnight.  Will Slaughtneil have had enough time to work on their own mistakes? Too tight to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 24, 2014, 10:24:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
so what about Rossa and Cushendalls chances this weekend then?

Rossa will get it tight against coleraine. was impressed with them in their semi final win though they relied on the McGolderick brothers very heavily in the game.

coleraine were unlucky last year in losing to Cloney after extra time so I fancy them to go one further and win this by 2 points.

when will Cushendall kick into life? all throughout the antrim championship they were flat and against Sneill they looked flat. with Sneill winning the football last week it might have eaten into them a bit. Cushendall may have the edge with that. saying that Sneill will be well up for this.

im saying a 1 point win for Cushendall.

Eoghan Rua by 4 points and Slaughtneil by 2 points. I think this game might be beyond a young Rossa side. Eoghan Rua are very physical and fit and might be just be too cute for Rossa with Seán Leo pulling the strings

S'neil are full of confidence, it will be tight but will win by 2 points or thereabouts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 24, 2014, 12:52:17 PM
Only going for a Rossa win as I think they have a number of top players in that team.

Cushendall need goals to win games, but they have the poachers to get them.  I think they need to start shane and play him in the withdrawn role, let him interchange with Paddy Magill.  I think Loughgiel pitch will suit them too as it is tighter and easier to bypass the midfield which is an area of strength for S'Neil.

It has to be an advantage having two weeks to recover and prepare, I don't care what crest of a wave S'Neil are coming in on it must take a lot out of the body to keep going as they have (Its not as if any of their recent games have been over with 10 mins to go).

Look at Wexford v Limerick, Wexford had all the momentum and when they started poorly the bodies surrendered!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 24, 2014, 03:33:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

I think it's a west belfast thing johnney...

Hopefully two antrim wins this weekend. Would be surprisd were Rossa to lose. Cushendall will hopefully have enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 24, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
Is Gavin Bell back for Rossa, having not played all year ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2014, 06:18:50 PM
Cushendall should win by at least 5 if they're on form. Same goes for rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
Dall to pull away in later stages as slaughtneil tire from their efforts.

Rossa to win with a few to spare - the return of bell to the squad would be staggering at this stage?

Opus dei has tentacles well beyond west belfast I might add!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Bell back on the squad and raised a few eyebrows amongst the players I believe!
Not sure about Michael kettle.
Strange one given efforts all year.
No return for Hamill or Close.

The slaughtneil conundrum won't be answered until the teams hit the grass on Sunday. Which team can lift it more with something different from the last day?
Is it a step too far for slaughtneil after their incredible efforts?
Did they miss the boat the first day?
Is Loughgiel a deciding factor as "home" venue?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 08:37:21 PM
I dont think so btdtgtt, Slaughtneil still have a great chance regardless of the venue.  I dare say they will go at it hammer and tongs and put in a stiff performance, they have nothing to fear if you ask me.  Cushendall have so much more to prove than Slaughtneil, me thinks.  Well, off to the Gravediggers later, maybe the learned one will enlighten us all with tactics for Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 08:37:21 PM
I dont think so btdtgtt, Slaughtneil still have a great chance regardless of the venue.  I dare say they will go at it hammer and tongs and put in a stiff performance, they have nothing to fear if you ask me.  Cushendall have so much more to prove than Slaughtneil, me thinks.  Well, off to the Gravediggers later, maybe the learned one will enlighten us all with tactics for Sunday.

You could be right - I don't know.
There's so many permutations going in to this game.
Is Mac's getting much of turn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

i'mm a bit cynical about Antrim county Board hierarchy being members of these religious orders for the sake of personal gain and power trips.

they way our county board has handled things recently id say they don't have the credentials  to get initiated to a religious order that requires a certain amount of morals,honesty and loyalty

even those Monty Python knights look a bit to clever for them. Cant be-leave they have signed casement away and the handling of Dunsilly is a joke

Is anybody on here a club committee member and has your club delegate been informed of these misdemeanors on a regular basis, if not then why
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 24, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 08:37:21 PM
I dont think so btdtgtt, Slaughtneil still have a great chance regardless of the venue.  I dare say they will go at it hammer and tongs and put in a stiff performance, they have nothing to fear if you ask me.  Cushendall have so much more to prove than Slaughtneil, me thinks.  Well, off to the Gravediggers later, maybe the learned one will enlighten us all with tactics for Sunday.

You could be right - I don't know.
There's so many permutations going in to this game.
Is Mac's getting much of turn?
I wouldn't think so.  Patrons vary from week to week and I don't think he will be making his millions, although a lot nicer clientele than the Rock and the pints are not bad.  The bar staff are a bit shifty though.  I only live around the corner so handy all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: worn down on October 25, 2014, 12:29:58 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

i'mm a bit cynical about Antrim county Board hierarchy being members of these religious orders for the sake of personal gain and power trips.

they way our county board has handled things recently id say they don't have the credentials  to get initiated to a religious order that requires a certain amount of morals,honesty and loyalty

even those Monty Python knights look a bit to clever for them. Cant be-leave they have signed casement away and the handling of Dunsilly is a joke

Is anybody on here a club committee member and has your club delegate been informed of these misdemeanors on a regular basis, if not then why
Well it is really typical of what goes on in the weil west.  County Board are like the Shinners, Priests, Knights etc, full of gangsters, Paedos, undesirables, con men, etc, etc.  But typical of our people in west Belfast and West Belfast people in general, they will vote them all back in tomorrow again.  They all, C/Board, Knights, Priests, SF Rapists, Paedos, Con Men have done terrible things in our community and feel the can act with impunity.  Its time the gaa clubs and people of west belfast, wised up to themselves and stopped being oppressed by such tyrants.

Thats why I work in England.  They broke into my house, stole my celtic cross, my van with all my tools, kids notebooks, wife's jewelry and they know who done it.  But just like the (SF) rapists and (Priest) paedos they are shipped across the border.  I am seriously thinking of moving out of the west altogether, but where do you go?  Shinners, GAA, Knights, Priests have conned us all, makes me bloody sick.  But I just love all things GAA and they cant take that away from me.  My brother was in the Knights years ago, I would not have put him in charge of a childs money box. I am also of the opinion the Knights and other secret societies as such, are made up of degenerates, feel gooders, do gooders who would eventually slit your throat for a dollar.  All in it for their own ends.  Apologies about the rant, but when you have seen the things I have seen in the weil west, and all the wrongs which have been dished out to the good people of the west belfast, it just makes me so disgusted.

You sir, are a c**k.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2014, 02:10:19 AM
Quote from: worn down on October 25, 2014, 12:29:58 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

i'mm a bit cynical about Antrim county Board hierarchy being members of these religious orders for the sake of personal gain and power trips.

they way our county board has handled things recently id say they don't have the credentials  to get initiated to a religious order that requires a certain amount of morals,honesty and loyalty

even those Monty Python knights look a bit to clever for them. Cant be-leave they have signed casement away and the handling of Dunsilly is a joke

Is anybody on here a club committee member and has your club delegate been informed of these misdemeanors on a regular basis, if not then why
Well it is really typical of what goes on in the weil west.  County Board are like the Shinners, Priests, Knights etc, full of gangsters, Paedos, undesirables, con men, etc, etc.  But typical of our people in west Belfast and West Belfast people in general, they will vote them all back in tomorrow again.  They all, C/Board, Knights, Priests, SF Rapists, Paedos, Con Men have done terrible things in our community and feel the can act with impunity.  Its time the gaa clubs and people of west belfast, wised up to themselves and stopped being oppressed by such tyrants.

Thats why I work in England.  They broke into my house, stole my celtic cross, my van with all my tools, kids notebooks, wife's jewelry and they know who done it.  But just like the (SF) rapists and (Priest) paedos they are shipped across the border.  I am seriously thinking of moving out of the west altogether, but where do you go?  Shinners, GAA, Knights, Priests have conned us all, makes me bloody sick.  But I just love all things GAA and they cant take that away from me.  My brother was in the Knights years ago, I would not have put him in charge of a childs money box. I am also of the opinion the Knights and other secret societies as such, are made up of degenerates, feel gooders, do gooders who would eventually slit your throat for a dollar.  All in it for their own ends.  Apologies about the rant, but when you have seen the things I have seen in the weil west, and all the wrongs which have been dished out to the good people of the west belfast, it just makes me so disgusted.

You sir, are a c**k.
well , truth hurts I suppose, I wonder which category you fell into above?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 25, 2014, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 25, 2014, 02:10:19 AM
Quote from: worn down on October 25, 2014, 12:29:58 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

i'mm a bit cynical about Antrim county Board hierarchy being members of these religious orders for the sake of personal gain and power trips.

they way our county board has handled things recently id say they don't have the credentials  to get initiated to a religious order that requires a certain amount of morals,honesty and loyalty

even those Monty Python knights look a bit to clever for them. Cant be-leave they have signed casement away and the handling of Dunsilly is a joke

Is anybody on here a club committee member and has your club delegate been informed of these misdemeanors on a regular basis, if not then why
Well it is really typical of what goes on in the weil west.  County Board are like the Shinners, Priests, Knights etc, full of gangsters, Paedos, undesirables, con men, etc, etc.  But typical of our people in west Belfast and West Belfast people in general, they will vote them all back in tomorrow again.  They all, C/Board, Knights, Priests, SF Rapists, Paedos, Con Men have done terrible things in our community and feel the can act with impunity.  Its time the gaa clubs and people of west belfast, wised up to themselves and stopped being oppressed by such tyrants.

Thats why I work in England.  They broke into my house, stole my celtic cross, my van with all my tools, kids notebooks, wife's jewelry and they know who done it.  But just like the (SF) rapists and (Priest) paedos they are shipped across the border.  I am seriously thinking of moving out of the west altogether, but where do you go?  Shinners, GAA, Knights, Priests have conned us all, makes me bloody sick.  But I just love all things GAA and they cant take that away from me.  My brother was in the Knights years ago, I would not have put him in charge of a childs money box. I am also of the opinion the Knights and other secret societies as such, are made up of degenerates, feel gooders, do gooders who would eventually slit your throat for a dollar.  All in it for their own ends.  Apologies about the rant, but when you have seen the things I have seen in the weil west, and all the wrongs which have been dished out to the good people of the west belfast, it just makes me so disgusted.

You sir, are a c**k.
well , truth hurts I suppose, I wonder which category you fell into above?


::) . Someone had a few shandy's.  Bit strong all the same and a lot of generalisations about groups of people. Laying all the blame on people of West Belfast is a bit random and in my view out of order.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 25, 2014, 10:39:05 AM
Celtic cross there's no room on this board for those kind of twisted sentiments
Keep the trash to yourself. imm sure there's other boards where you can vent your anger that isn't a hurling thread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2014, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 25, 2014, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 25, 2014, 02:10:19 AM
Quote from: worn down on October 25, 2014, 12:29:58 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 24, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 24, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
WTF is this Knight, Opus Dei crap, is it an Antrim thing?

I know a few ex-county chairmen, might have to ask them if there's any truth in it.

i'mm a bit cynical about Antrim county Board hierarchy being members of these religious orders for the sake of personal gain and power trips.

they way our county board has handled things recently id say they don't have the credentials  to get initiated to a religious order that requires a certain amount of morals,honesty and loyalty

even those Monty Python knights look a bit to clever for them. Cant be-leave they have signed casement away and the handling of Dunsilly is a joke

Is anybody on here a club committee member and has your club delegate been informed of these misdemeanors on a regular basis, if not then why
Well it is really typical of what goes on in the weil west.  County Board are like the Shinners, Priests, Knights etc, full of gangsters, Paedos, undesirables, con men, etc, etc.  But typical of our people in west Belfast and West Belfast people in general, they will vote them all back in tomorrow again.  They all, C/Board, Knights, Priests, SF Rapists, Paedos, Con Men have done terrible things in our community and feel the can act with impunity.  Its time the gaa clubs and people of west belfast, wised up to themselves and stopped being oppressed by such tyrants.

Thats why I work in England.  They broke into my house, stole my celtic cross, my van with all my tools, kids notebooks, wife's jewelry and they know who done it.  But just like the (SF) rapists and (Priest) paedos they are shipped across the border.  I am seriously thinking of moving out of the west altogether, but where do you go?  Shinners, GAA, Knights, Priests have conned us all, makes me bloody sick.  But I just love all things GAA and they cant take that away from me.  My brother was in the Knights years ago, I would not have put him in charge of a childs money box. I am also of the opinion the Knights and other secret societies as such, are made up of degenerates, feel gooders, do gooders who would eventually slit your throat for a dollar.  All in it for their own ends.  Apologies about the rant, but when you have seen the things I have seen in the weil west, and all the wrongs which have been dished out to the good people of the west belfast, it just makes me so disgusted.

You sir, are a c**k.
well , truth hurts I suppose, I wonder which category you fell into above?


::) . Someone had a few shandy's.  Bit strong all the same and a lot of generalisations about groups of people. Laying all the blame on people of West Belfast is a bit random and in my view out of order.
Don't get me wrong here Gizzy, I am not laying the blame on the good people of west Belfast, just relaying the reality of circumstances in which we live.  The majority of people of west Belfast are good, honest and decent people. My rant was focused more on those who would purport to be the moral and principled leaders, who shaft the people of west Belfast at any given opportunity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Maybe another thread should be started about all of this nonsense?

There are ulster hurling championship matches this weekend with Antrim teams playing in them. Or have you forgot? I can't wait to see the replay tomorrow. If it's half as exciting as the first game  we're all in for a treat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2014, 11:12:28 AM
For once you talk some sense sie!

Like someone else here said cushendall probably need goals. If Shane mcnaughton is back towards any kind of form hopefully he can bag a few. Cushendall by four...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 25, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2014, 11:12:28 AM
For once you talk some sense sie!

Like someone else here said cushendall probably need goals. If Shane mcnaughton is back towards any kind of form hopefully he can bag a few. Cushendall by four...
I talk sense every time Tommy. Its whether you know the truth or not that's the difference. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
She's a stormy one up here at the minute. The rain has just started teaming down as well. Will it be a factor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 26, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
25 mins to throw in just a couple of quick predictions for the craic.

Slaulgneil 2:14. V Cushendall. 3:12

Eoghan Rua. 4:10. V Rossa. 2:16

Castleblaney. 3:13. V Na Magha. 1;10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 02:27:12 PM
I'd have to fancy the dall by minimum 4 or 5 points. But if these slaughtneil boys come out of the traps quickly you just never know. Awful day for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
15 gone. 3-1 to cushendall. Breeze playing a big role.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 03:02:52 PM
Half time. Dall lead 1-4 to  0-3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 03:02:52 PM
Half time. Dall lead 1-4 to  0-3.

wining by 5 so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 26, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 03:02:52 PM
Half time. Dall lead 1-4 to  0-3.

dall up by 4.

Rossa up by 11 ; :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 26, 2014, 03:50:03 PM
Rossa win 1:15 to 0:06. Jez i was well off on that 1. I had been thinking draw or point or two either way. Rossa spent most of second half with 14 men by all reports. Well done Rossa. Hope you can raise the bar next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on October 26, 2014, 04:00:03 PM
Two hand enough wins. Be interesting to see how Rossa do back up in division one and Senior championship next year. Can only be a good thing if they are competitive again. Good luck to them and the dall in the rest of their all Ireland Series, Dall have another tough one next up in the Ulster final V Portaferry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 26, 2014, 04:17:03 PM
Congrats to cushendall and rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 26, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.

i thought the ref did OK maybe two dodgy decisions in the second half

well done to the dall, the derry champions tried there best but the dalls defense held firm. they never looked like scoring a goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 05:36:00 PM
We have beaten Sarsfields so we stay up, hopefully nick points off Rossa and Clooney next year and possibly one of the better teams to get another year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Have you put up a constructive meaningful debate in any of your posts?  Dark cloud, I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll get attention elsewhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Have you put up a constructive meaningful debate in any of your posts?  Dark cloud, I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll get attention elsewhere
Just expressing a point of view. I am not expecting the county board to read the comments because of   all the enthralling and positive comments, which are being made by contributors. You never know, they may actually read the comments and become inspired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 26, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Nothing wrong with the standard in Antrim IMHO. All today and the last did day did was highlight that once you go outside of the Antrim leagues its a struggle as to where to go.

Thought the dall did well in the second half when they looked like they might be in trouble. Subs made an impact; defense was strong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Nothing wrong with the standard in Antrim IMHO. All today and the last did day did was highlight that once you go outside of the Antrim leagues its a struggle as to where to go.

Thought the dall did well in the second half when they looked like they might be in trouble. Subs made an impact; defense was strong.
PersonallyI though they laboured in the first half against what I thought was a more tenacious physical effort by Sneil. Certainly look suspect under their own puck outs and that of the oposition, caught out the same way last day. Granted, Dall defence in 2nd half had a lot more shape about it. The two goals were as a result of fundamental mistakes by Sneil, but I thought the penalty in 2nd half was harsh. Dall, still have a fair bit of work to do if you ask me. They may very well win Ulster, which you would half expect, beyond that I am not convinced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and comig referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Have you put up a constructive meaningful debate in any of your posts?  Dark cloud, I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll get attention elsewhere
Just expressing a point of view. I am not expecting the county board to read the comments because of   all the enthralling and positive comments, which are being made by contributors. You never know, they may actually read the comments and become inspired?

Get involved with your club become a committee man then go for election within county board. Stop talking about it and do something positive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 27, 2014, 07:58:29 AM
MR2 I'd say his club if he has one now are glad he's on here! Sounds as though you have a lot of unfinished business GENC out there. You should become an accessor or even a ghost writer for some of the papers out there? Plumbing doesn't seem to be extending you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 09:03:37 AM
well done to rossa and Cushendall yesterday.

was over at the Cushendall match. it was never going to be as good as the drawn game two weeks ago. the game was pretty disappointing for a neutral. Cushendall were the better team but only just. I think they need serious improvement for the final and after that if they are serious about making a dent in the south. they closed the Sneill midfield completely out and nullified chrissy mckaigue out of the game. that gave them the upper hand.

paddy mc naughton hurled well as did Karl McKeagan. also thought shane mc naughton played well when he came on. he offered a lot more threat than his younger brother who was hooked off.

now for the ref. not good, not good at all. he nearly ruined the game in the first half. I was starting to get pissed off with him and his stupid calls and the bookings he handed out. not one booking for either team was justified. you go to an all Ireland final and its blood and thunder hurling, tough as hell, yet the appoint someone who blows every pointless tackle up. it was the same as the drawn game. if the ulster council have any serious ideas about promoting hurling in the 9 counties (which we all know they don't) then appoint someone who has actually been to a hurling match!

also the sneill fans need to go on a learner course as well lol I was stood amongst them and they were roaring for fouls the entire match and moaning about tackles that wouldn't of been a foul in an U14 game. it was the same in the drawn game, something which I debated with a mate that caused the ref to send Shane off that last day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on October 27, 2014, 09:49:58 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 09:03:37 AM
well done to rossa and Cushendall yesterday.

was over at the Cushendall match. it was never going to be as good as the drawn game two weeks ago. the game was pretty disappointing for a neutral. Cushendall were the better team but only just. I think they need serious improvement for the final and after that if they are serious about making a dent in the south. they closed the Sneill midfield completely out and nullified chrissy mckaigue out of the game. that gave them the upper hand.

paddy mc naughton hurled well as did Karl McKeagan. also thought shane mc naughton played well when he came on. he offered a lot more threat than his younger brother who was hooked off.

now for the ref. not good, not good at all. he nearly ruined the game in the first half. I was starting to get pissed off with him and his stupid calls and the bookings he handed out. not one booking for either team was justified. you go to an all Ireland final and its blood and thunder hurling, tough as hell, yet the appoint someone who blows every pointless tackle up. it was the same as the drawn game. if the ulster council have any serious ideas about promoting hurling in the 9 counties (which we all know they don't) then appoint someone who has actually been to a hurling match!

also the sneill fans need to go on a learner course as well lol I was stood amongst them and they were roaring for fouls the entire match and moaning about tackles that wouldn't of been a foul in an U14 game. it was the same in the drawn game, something which I debated with a mate that caused the ref to send Shane off that last day.

couldn't agree more. 

In fairness to Cdall in particular, they seemed to keep relatively calm in the face of some hideous calls, which started 10 secs into the game when he blew mc manus for daring to tackle for ball.  that set the tone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 09:56:12 AM
In the second half the ball was pucked out and McManus had his back to it so jumped in the air with his arms ,when he was facing the other way, waving about to block the Slaughtneil guy's view. Is this a foul?? (It worked BTW but a foul was then blown)

(Ref was very poor might I add. Let too many high challenges go unpunished and at times seemed to lack a general understanding of the game)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 09:56:12 AM
In the second half the ball was pucked out and McManus had his back to it so jumped in the air with his arms ,when he was facing the other way, waving about to block the Slaughtneil guy's view. Is this a foul?? (It worked BTW but a foul was then blown)

(Ref was very poor might I add. Let too many high challenges go unpunished and at times seemed to lack a general understanding of the game)

yeah that one had my aul boy in stiches beside me. I couldn't believe he blew that up. is it a foul? im not sure at all. he never touched the man nor shouted at him. was it gamesmanship? probably, but a foul, im not sure.

also the ref blew a foul to Sneill in the second half after playing advantage for about 5 secs and then blew the whistle and brought it back for the foul. there is no advantage rule in hurling as far as I know. the ref plays advantage to keep the game flowing, which IMO shows a good referee knowing the game. but to stop and come back was utter nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 27, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 09:56:12 AM
In the second half the ball was pucked out and McManus had his back to it so jumped in the air with his arms ,when he was facing the other way, waving about to block the Slaughtneil guy's view. Is this a foul?? (It worked BTW but a foul was then blown)

(Ref was very poor might I add. Let too many high challenges go unpunished and at times seemed to lack a general understanding of the game)

yeah that one had my aul boy in stiches beside me. I couldn't believe he blew that up. is it a foul? im not sure at all. he never touched the man nor shouted at him. was it gamesmanship? probably, but a foul, im not sure.

also the ref blew a foul to Sneill in the second half after playing advantage for about 5 secs and then blew the whistle and brought it back for the foul. there is no advantage rule in hurling as far as I know. the ref plays advantage to keep the game flowing, which IMO shows a good referee knowing the game. but to stop and come back was utter nonsense.

I think it can be given as a foul, as the player is making no attempt to play the ball nor facing in the direction of the ball while attempting to gain an advantage for him and his team. basically acting as an obstruction. but very rarely given especially when the ball is dropping in the square in a crowd there are only ever a few making an attempt to play the ball and the rest of the players are usually trying to put their opponent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
to be fair if I was a ref I would of given it as a foul.

over the two games I thought Cdall got the rough end with regards to the fouls against them. im all up for a ref from cavan or monaghan getting the big games in the ulster hurling but they have got to be up to speed and used to high level games. E Hasson is one of the best that ive had to deal with. yes he may call some bad ones, all refs do, but hes good at letting the game flow and works well with the players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Over the course of the game from the refereeing perspective, I felt like I was watching a rugby match i.e. On too many occasions I and many around me had no clue what the fouls were being blown for. Cushendall shaded the soft free count I thought, but poor marksmanship kept the baloobas in the hunt, but they never threatened enough up front especially in front of goal. In the championship St Galls are the only side to score a major against them. They looked to have a fairly pragmatic philosophy that's based around this resolute backline. Game plan seems to be work hard to build a lead then load the back line (O Campbell dropping back and 3/4 line moving way out) in the second half to suffocate the opposition whilst making use of the extra space created to pick off handy scores which Shane did well. Loughgiel have been successful with similar tactics this past few years. You need the right personnel to make it work, so credit to Cushendall for being able to do it. Graffin was sublime again and the stand out player for me. Does he ever get cleaned out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 12:56:15 PM
I don't think ive ever seen him getting torn apart at club level, hes one of the best defenders in antrim IMO and probably one of the toughest man markers about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on October 27, 2014, 01:16:28 PM
Does anyone know who the two relegated teams from Div 1 are this year and who is replacing them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 27, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
AFAIK Sarsfields and Ballygalget down, Rossa and Clooney Gaels up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 01:52:55 PM
yeah both of them are up this year. def a good couple of years in cloney with regards to hurling. they have done serious work in their club to get there.

they are now a top dual club with teams in div 1 hurling and football, which is no easy feat to keep up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 27, 2014, 03:18:27 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on October 27, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Disappointing to witness some Dunloy, Town and my own club men cheering on Sneil. Well I suppose that's to be expected at times.  Fair play to the Dall though, 2nd half seemed a lot more composed and sticking to their game plan.  Anyone know where the final is being played, I heard Armagh is an option?

Well done Rossa also, probably not where they want to be, but all part of the building process and bigger picture.
Owenbeg is confirmed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on October 27, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Disappointing to witness some Dunloy, Town and my own club men cheering on Sneil. Well I suppose that's to be expected at times.  Fair play to the Dall though, 2nd half seemed a lot more composed and sticking to their game plan.  Anyone know where the final is being played, I heard Armagh is an option?

Well done Rossa also, probably not where they want to be, but all part of the building process and bigger picture.

I was on the far side of the pitch and to be fair I never seen any neutral (from our Antrim clubs) applauding Sneill. I was stood with my dad in amongst the sneill fans and they were vocal enough on their own.

even it were Lgiel playing Sneill I wouldn't of been cheering on the Derry men!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 27, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on October 27, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Disappointing to witness some Dunloy, Town and my own club men cheering on Sneil. Well I suppose that's to be expected at times.  Fair play to the Dall though, 2nd half seemed a lot more composed and sticking to their game plan.  Anyone know where the final is being played, I heard Armagh is an option?

Well done Rossa also, probably not where they want to be, but all part of the building process and bigger picture.

I was on the far side of the pitch and to be fair I never seen any neutral (from our Antrim clubs) applauding Sneill. I was stood with my dad in amongst the sneill fans and they were vocal enough on their own.

even it were Lgiel playing Sneill I wouldn't of been cheering on the Derry men!
Sad to say I did witness it  from where I was standing, deplorable really.  More annoying was the language and especially when young children about the place.  Fair play to you DR, but not all North Antrim men are like you regrettably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 27, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: podge on October 26, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Seriously, is this the best ulster council can produce as a ref for for the showpiece club match in the province? Riddled with baffling and inconsistent calls.

Could have cost cushendall the game. Shouldn't let the fact that cushendall won gloss over the ineptitude. Otherwise they will keep appointing boys like this.

Should have brought Cody along - he would have some laugh.
woeful and dour stuff no question. Seriously reflects on the serious poor standard of hurling referees in Ulster. Pity a Derry team were playing today against the Dall, I am sure E. Hasson would have got the nod., possibly get the final.  He is probably the only decent referee we have had in Ulster this last number of years, the rest in Ulster and Antrim included have been extremely poor imo.

The game today was poor also. I think this referee was afraid that it may have boiled over. Some very inconsistent whistle blowing. Dall have still not impressed,but I suppose they will be happy with the result regardless.

Have Antrim any up and coming referees worth watching?  Our current stock and those in recent years have not been up to much, thankless job though which may be of influence.  Good luck to the Dall anyway. I think Ulster will be as far as it goes on current form.

Have you put up a constructive meaningful debate in any of your posts?  Dark cloud, I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll get attention elsewhere
Evidently, we don't have that much to be positive about Milltown, lets face it, Casement debacle, Dunsilly shambles, Club Antrim Fugazi, the pathetic state of our hurling and football teams, heaven help us.  10 weeks of Novenas would prove difficult putting some positive slant on the entire shambles.  Your lucky, at least the Milltown men still ride on the crest of the wave, for most other clubs a definite struggle all round.  To cap it all, we are being lead by the nose by a rudderless, deceitful and unprincipled CB.  Not a lot to be positive about, but sure we will endure and prevail, me thinks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
to be fair if I was a ref I would of given it as a foul.

over the two games I thought Cdall got the rough end with regards to the fouls against them. im all up for a ref from cavan or monaghan getting the big games in the ulster hurling but they have got to be up to speed and used to high level games. E Hasson is one of the best that ive had to deal with. yes he may call some bad ones, all refs do, but hes good at letting the game flow and works well with the players

It was more comical than anything else to be honest.

Cushendall were the better team but they need to improve - too many needless quick frees and conceding a point when two of your own players, with all the time and space in the world, run into each other isn't good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
to be fair if I was a ref I would of given it as a foul.

over the two games I thought Cdall got the rough end with regards to the fouls against them. im all up for a ref from cavan or monaghan getting the big games in the ulster hurling but they have got to be up to speed and used to high level games. E Hasson is one of the best that ive had to deal with. yes he may call some bad ones, all refs do, but hes good at letting the game flow and works well with the players

It was more comical than anything else to be honest.

Cushendall were the better team but they need to improve - too many needless quick frees and conceding a point when two of your own players, with all the time and space in the world, run into each other isn't good.

they are nowhere near as good as Lgiel were 3 years ago. that being said that Lgiel were at the height of their power, much the same as Dunloy were when they were flying.

their defence is very strong and have conceded very few goals. Sneill didn't have one shot at goal for the Cdall keeper to save in the 2 games which is testament to their strong defence. once they sorted midfield in the second game they didn't concede as much.

I don't understand young Campbell playing up front. hes wasted up there and in the second half when he was back he did a lot more than being stuck up in the corner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
If they improve from midfield up cushendall will be hard to work with. Their defence is as good as anything else out there. No question about that. I just wonder if they have that mercurial player that can change momentum in a game. I thought christy might have been that player but to be honest slaughtneil minded him well. Like has been said before they'll have to up their game if they get out of ulster. It isn't easy down there, contrary to what some might think.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
If they improve from midfield up cushendall will be hard to work with. Their defence is as good as anything else out there. No question about that. I just wonder if they have that mercurial player that can change momentum in a game. I thought christy might have been that player but to be honest slaughtneil minded him well. Like has been said before they'll have to up their game if they get out of ulster. It isn't easy down there, contrary to what some might think.  ;)

Christy has loads of years left to get going, only a young pup and anyone who has played against the Derry teams will testify that you'll certainly get a 'minding' or two during the game.

Disappointed that the referee is getting a pasting, not for me to judge as I wasn't there but some of the sensible ones on here I'd trust their judgement. Ulster council could have appointed a Down man for the game, surely there are some decent referees that could have handled that game, but I think you have to have something extra to referee once it gets out of Antrim leagues and into Ulster Championship. not sure what it is though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
I'm not criticising christy at all. In fact id be worried that cushendall are starting him in these big games. He'd be some weapon to bring in with 20 left. They miss a fully fit shane big time. And carson, when he wants, can cause damage. Its there but like I said, have they got that player that'll take it to the next level and bring his team mates with him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
Sie they probably lack it in the forwards. Would love to see them break their hoodoo and get to a final some day. Portaferry far from beat yet though!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 27, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
I'm not criticising christy at all. In fact id be worried that cushendall are starting him in these big games. He'd be some weapon to bring in with 20 left. They miss a fully fit shane big time. And carson, when he wants, can cause damage. Its there but like I said, have they got that player that'll take it to the next level and bring his team mates with him?
Not really fair for Sambo to expect so much of him imo but suppose its symtomatic of where they are with attacking options Still a team in transitition so will need a close eye kept to keep the young bloods on track.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
If they improve from midfield up cushendall will be hard to work with. Their defence is as good as anything else out there. No question about that. I just wonder if they have that mercurial player that can change momentum in a game. I thought christy might have been that player but to be honest slaughtneil minded him well. Like has been said before they'll have to up their game if they get out of ulster. It isn't easy down there, contrary to what some might think.  ;)

Christy has loads of years left to get going, only a young pup and anyone who has played against the Derry teams will testify that you'll certainly get a 'minding' or two during the game.

Disappointed that the referee is getting a pasting, not for me to judge as I wasn't there but some of the sensible ones on here I'd trust their judgement. Ulster council could have appointed a Down man for the game, surely there are some decent referees that could have handled that game, but I think you have to have something extra to referee once it gets out of Antrim leagues and into Ulster Championship. not sure what it is though

im not one for concentrating on a ref during a game or blaming them for a defeat but sometimes the ref becomes the centre of attention and that's something I don't like.

if you come back from a game and talk about it afterwards and the ref is never mentioned then hes done a good job IMO. sadly the ref on Sunday made some poor calls and whenever he made a bad one for one team he tried to even it up by making another poor call. he did let the game flow in the later stages which was good but the first half was forgettable for him.

maybe its a good learning curve for him getting these games but he needs to take a look at the likes of other refs in antrim league games to see what the tempo, tackling/intensity is like. it is also good to see a cavan man in charge of a big hurling match in ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 27, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on October 27, 2014, 02:33:02 PM
Disappointing to witness some Dunloy, Town and my own club men cheering on Sneil. Well I suppose that's to be expected at times.  Fair play to the Dall though, 2nd half seemed a lot more composed and sticking to their game plan.  Anyone know where the final is being played, I heard Armagh is an option?

Well done Rossa also, probably not where they want to be, but all part of the building process and bigger picture.

I was on the far side of the pitch and to be fair I never seen any neutral (from our Antrim clubs) applauding Sneill. I was stood with my dad in amongst the sneill fans and they were vocal enough on their own.

even it were Lgiel playing Sneill I wouldn't of been cheering on the Derry men!
Sad to say I did witness it  from where I was standing, deplorable really.  More annoying was the language and especially when young children about the place.  Fair play to you DR, but not all North Antrim men are like you regrettably.

that doesn't mean I want Loughgiel to win though  :o ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 28, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 27, 2014, 12:24:10 PM
Over the course of the game from the refereeing perspective, I felt like I was watching a rugby match i.e. On too many occasions I and many around me had no clue what the fouls were being blown for. Cushendall shaded the soft free count I thought, but poor marksmanship kept the baloobas in the hunt, but they never threatened enough up front especially in front of goal. In the championship St Galls are the only side to score a major against them. They looked to have a fairly pragmatic philosophy that's based around this resolute backline. Game plan seems to be work hard to build a lead then load the back line (O Campbell dropping back and 3/4 line moving way out) in the second half to suffocate the opposition whilst making use of the extra space created to pick off handy scores which Shane did well. Loughgiel have been successful with similar tactics this past few years. You need the right personnel to make it work, so credit to Cushendall for being able to do it. Graffin was sublime again and the stand out player for me. Does he ever get cleaned out?

They've been doing that for as long as I can remember, it can be a daunting place for a defender to be standing with 50 yards of open ground in front of you and a few flyers in the forwards.
I remember watching them turn around a 6 or 7 point deficit against Loughgeil by sucking Johnny Campbell way out the field and throwing in a young McManus to full forward and hitting the spaces in front of him to run into.

In saying that the Ports have a pretty mobile team not lacking in height or speed. I'd just be concerned that the rigid way they've set up their defence in particular could be their undoing. Big BA is made for Carson, strong as an Ox and good in the air if somewhat slowish over the sod but should follow him no matter where Carson goes.
Conor O'Prey has caught himself on and is hurling well in the corner for them, even if he does manage to get himself on the wrong side too often for me.
Their forwards were also going well with Dule getting back into form, but they're not as reliant as they were on him to do all the scoring. Conor McGeehan has been scoring well from play, 4 points from play IIRC against Ballycran and missed a few as well, although against a decent defence they might struggle to get goals as they may be a bit light in and around the edge of the square.
Graffan is as good a defender as I've seen in Ulster in long and many's a day. You'd almost hope to god he'd follow the forward to the corner flag and give the rest a chance.


IMO if the Ports get their heads right, understand not everything is going to go their way but keep plugging away they've a real good chance, the Dall don't have that air of invincibility that the Dunloy of old or Loughgeil of recent have had.
Ports have a habit of dropping the heads when things get tough and they're a bit behind, hopefully the implosion doesn't happen and they give it a real good rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2014, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 27, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
If they improve from midfield up cushendall will be hard to work with. Their defence is as good as anything else out there. No question about that. I just wonder if they have that mercurial player that can change momentum in a game. I thought christy might have been that player but to be honest slaughtneil minded him well. Like has been said before they'll have to up their game if they get out of ulster. It isn't easy down there, contrary to what some might think.  ;)

Christy has loads of years left to get going, only a young pup and anyone who has played against the Derry teams will testify that you'll certainly get a 'minding' or two during the game.

Disappointed that the referee is getting a pasting, not for me to judge as I wasn't there but some of the sensible ones on here I'd trust their judgement. Ulster council could have appointed a Down man for the game, surely there are some decent referees that could have handled that game, but I think you have to have something extra to referee once it gets out of Antrim leagues and into Ulster Championship. not sure what it is though

im not one for concentrating on a ref during a game or blaming them for a defeat but sometimes the ref becomes the centre of attention and that's something I don't like.

if you come back from a game and talk about it afterwards and the ref is never mentioned then hes done a good job IMO. sadly the ref on Sunday made some poor calls and whenever he made a bad one for one team he tried to even it up by making another poor call. he did let the game flow in the later stages which was good but the first half was forgettable for him.

maybe its a good learning curve for him getting these games but he needs to take a look at the likes of other refs in antrim league games to see what the tempo, tackling/intensity is like. it is also good to see a cavan man in charge of a big hurling match in ulster.

Are referees under pressure to perform differently in Ulster Championship? Maybe someone with referreeing experience on here will know the answer. The junior final for example was totally destroyed as a contest with NM having 2 men sent off. The teams were level before that and the sending off of their CHB against the wind was a killer blow. To be very honest the sending off for 2 yellows was extremely harsh with first coming from a very slight pull of the opponents sleeve. A tick would have done. The guy who got sent off has never been booked before this i believe.  A lot of people paid to watch the match yesterday and for any neutral there it was destroyed by this poor decision. The sceond sending off was clear cut though and cant be argued with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 10:48:09 AM
from what I seen in the 2 games between Cushendall and Sneill there was a number of bookings handed out which IMO were never bookings. there are fouls in every game, we all accept that will happen but to book someone in the first half for commiting a simple foul (not dirty stroke, back chat) is silly. it ruins the game as opposition supporters will roar at the ref every tackle he commits to have him sent off.

the ref then gets into a pressure situation to do something but risks ruining the game by sending someone off for two silly tackles that were nothing more than clumsy.

were the two refs under pressure for those games? probably due to them being from Cavan which isn't a natural hurling home land people from Antrim, Down and Derry who were at the game will scrutinise the ref more so.

it takes a lot for my aul boy to get annoyed at a game of hurling when he's a neutral (following Dunloy this year has rose his blood pressure alone! lol) and we have been at Kilkenny & Galway club hurling finals but the ref in both games had him giving off non stop for poor calls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 28, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 10:48:09 AM
from what I seen in the 2 games between Cushendall and Sneill there was a number of bookings handed out which IMO were never bookings. there are fouls in every game, we all accept that will happen but to book someone in the first half for commiting a simple foul (not dirty stroke, back chat) is silly. it ruins the game as opposition supporters will roar at the ref every tackle he commits to have him sent off.

the ref then gets into a pressure situation to do something but risks ruining the game by sending someone off for two silly tackles that were nothing more than clumsy.

were the two refs under pressure for those games? probably due to them being from Cavan which isn't a natural hurling home land people from Antrim, Down and Derry who were at the game will scrutinise the ref more so.

it takes a lot for my aul boy to get annoyed at a game of hurling when he's a neutral (following Dunloy this year has rose his blood pressure alone! lol) and we have been at Kilkenny & Galway club hurling finals but the ref in both games had him giving off non stop for poor calls.


Was anyone on here watching TG4 last night and their highlights of the club championships?
Im just asking as I watched it and during the Dublin hurling final the St Judes no.10 produced a head butt right in front of the ref and everyone around after he was fouled. not only was no action taken against the individual but his team kept the free and scored a goal from it.

Im just wondering did anyone else see it as ive seen players sent off, of late and with barely a forward movement of the head yet this was left un punished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 28, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
I wasn't at either game, but my only concern about these lads is what sort of standard of hurling are these lads refereeing at week in, week out rather than where they're from.

I presume they referee in the NHL, but at what level?

Would some lad who is refereeing club junior football be given the job of refereeing Crossmaglen and Omagh, I think not.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 12:09:39 PM
theres a good chance they are doing Div 4 or the Lory Meagher cup. they wont be up to the standard required for an ulster hurling championship. the teams coming out of this championship have won all Irelands and got the all Ireland club finals so the standard of hurling is pretty high therefore we expect the ref to be at that standard.

would an antrim ref get the ulster club football final? probably not, it will go to a big name from a strong football county. the ulster council care a football and football only. they don't give a toss about hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 28, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:09:39 PM
theres a good chance they are doing Div 4 or the Lory Meagher cup. they wont be up to the standard required for an ulster hurling championship. the teams coming out of this championship have won all Irelands and got the all Ireland club finals so the standard of hurling is pretty high therefore we expect the ref to be at that standard.

would an antrim ref get the ulster club football final? probably not, it will go to a big name from a strong football county. the ulster council care a football and football only. they don't give a toss about hurling.
Is it maybe a case that a Cavan, Monaghan, Fermanagh referee would be safe hands? Potentially Down, Antrim, Derry and more recently Armagh, you could say would be in the mix for Ulster honours, therefore a neutral referee from non competing counties is safer option.  Southern Ulster referees probably would not charge as much either, based on more recent events.  Ulster Councils hurling budget would not extend to such a level to cover some of the more exorbitant expenses claims.  Bear in mind, I was talking to a Derry mate in the Elk!  It has been said, the Cavan men do it for around 130 Euro all in (meals, fuel,sundries) maybe a more financially prudent proposition for UC?  'One' never knows, does 'One' ?

Joking aside, I was amazed at the number of spectators who normally would be more controlled and reserved, who were extremely vocal on Sunday in Loughgeil.  As I said earlier, such protracted verbiage was extremely inappropriate around young children, but undoubtedly fueled by a shambolic refereeing performance. 

Who is reffing the final?  Hopefully a non attention seeking whistle blower in the middle, Sambo will be pleased at that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 28, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.

+1

Lets her go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 28, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 28, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 10:48:09 AM
from what I seen in the 2 games between Cushendall and Sneill there was a number of bookings handed out which IMO were never bookings. there are fouls in every game, we all accept that will happen but to book someone in the first half for commiting a simple foul (not dirty stroke, back chat) is silly. it ruins the game as opposition supporters will roar at the ref every tackle he commits to have him sent off.

the ref then gets into a pressure situation to do something but risks ruining the game by sending someone off for two silly tackles that were nothing more than clumsy.

were the two refs under pressure for those games? probably due to them being from Cavan which isn't a natural hurling home land people from Antrim, Down and Derry who were at the game will scrutinise the ref more so.

it takes a lot for my aul boy to get annoyed at a game of hurling when he's a neutral (following Dunloy this year has rose his blood pressure alone! lol) and we have been at Kilkenny & Galway club hurling finals but the ref in both games had him giving off non stop for poor calls.


Was anyone on here watching TG4 last night and their highlights of the club championships?
Im just asking as I watched it and during the Dublin hurling final the St Judes no.10 produced a head butt right in front of the ref and everyone around after he was fouled. not only was no action taken against the individual but his team kept the free and scored a goal from it.

Im just wondering did anyone else see it as ive seen players sent off, of late and with barely a forward movement of the head yet this was left un punished.

Saw it - was crazy that nothing appeared to have happened! As noted before by Skull - senseless headbutting with helmets on! (and of course without them on...).

Was on the wrong end of said Cavan referee a few years back. Appreciate your boys have a tough gig MR2 but he was (and cleary is) diabolical.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on October 28, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.
Cant argue with that at all. +1

Your boy Cunning would be non to happy with that accolade being heaped on the wee man??  I take it you are not on his Christmas card list.  ;D

lol I don't think skinny would mind not being the top yet, hes working his way up there tho. seen him a few times and hes pretty good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 28, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 28, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.

+1

Lets her go.

So does skinny   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 28, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 28, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.

+1

Lets her go.

So does skinny   ;D

;D all them lads over the years merely ran into the end of skinnys stick by accident lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 29, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 28, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 28, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Eamon Hasson has got the nod, which is not unexpected. hes the top ref in ulster with regards to hurling.

+1

Lets her go.

Strangely he doesn't as much as he did!! Good ref though and whether rightly or wrongly at least you get an explanation in a non condescending manner.


So does skinny   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on October 30, 2014, 12:01:26 PM
Jesus lads maybe we should start a referees thread, all this talk I might take up the whistle myself ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
jaysus naw lads, this is a temp love in with regards to refs.

come this weekend after leaving Ownebeg I could be calling Eamonn for all the useless tits in the world! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 31, 2014, 08:47:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 30, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
jaysus naw lads, this is a temp love in with regards to refs.

come this weekend after leaving Ownebeg I could be calling Eamonn for all the useless tits in the world! lol

Why, will the Dunlodians be cheering on the Dall on this occasion and be upset if they lose?

As for Eamon, I hope he keeps those expenses down and gives the Ports a fair crack at it which no doubt he will as he's already refereed them this year and would know there's no dirt in them.
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 31, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
prediction for the senior final this weekend folks

Cushendall by 3 points, but only just. the two games v S'neill will have taken it out of them so I don't think there will be any big win margin but I still think Cushendall will win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 31, 2014, 02:28:41 PM
I think after the Slaughtneil game we might see Cushendall open up a bit - I expect to see them win by a healthy margin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 01, 2014, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 31, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
prediction for the senior final this weekend folks

Cushendall by 3 points, but only just. the two games v S'neill will have taken it out of them so I don't think there will be any big win margin but I still think Cushendall will win it.
Championship is championship DR, always potential for banana skins and a non expected outcomes.  Good luck to the Dall, the only hope we have left in Antrim this year anyway.  Is the AI club finals going to be played in this calendar year this year?  I had heard rumblings but did not hear the final outcome of the proposal. IMO, makes sense to me. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 01, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
I think that motion would only apply to next season.
Otherwise the dates would have been set already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 01, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
Portaferry travelling in big numbers tomorrow I'm being told, must sniff a good chance of a win, I think they do have a good chance but they'll need a good start to get a bit of confidence up, who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2014, 10:44:41 PM
Refereed them against a very poor Johnnie team not that long ago. They were rubbish and Johnnie's beat them in a must win league game. What have they done lately to improve?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Hi people, I'm not getting home this weekend due to work commitments, firm got a contract in Parkhurst Prison, Isle of Wight and good money for weekend work.  Cant make it to Owenbeg obviously, will someone keep the running commentary on the game/score etc? My da and his brother are going, but are not very up with the technology bit.

It would be appreciated.  I suspect the Dall will edge it maybe but you never know. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 02, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Hi people, I'm not getting home this weekend due to work commitments, firm got a contract in Parkhurst Prison, Isle of Wight and good money for weekend work.  Cant make it to Owenbeg obviously, will someone keep the running commentary on the game/score etc? My da and his brother are going, but are not very up with the technology bit.

It would be appreciated.  I suspect the Dall will edge it maybe but you never know. ::)
Not many prisons you'd be allowed a phone into.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 12:35:45 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 02, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Hi people, I'm not getting home this weekend due to work commitments, firm got a contract in Parkhurst Prison, Isle of Wight and good money for weekend work.  Cant make it to Owenbeg obviously, will someone keep the running commentary on the game/score etc? My da and his brother are going, but are not very up with the technology bit.

It would be appreciated.  I suspect the Dall will edge it maybe but you never know. ::)
Not many prisons you'd be allowed a phone into.

Way too much information
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:05:02 PM
Portaferry 7-6 up at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
13-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
13-6

decent game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
1-15 to 0-09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2014, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
1-15 to 0-09

Final score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
Misread the time. 1-16 to 0-10. About 3 minutes or so left plus injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
Congrats to Portaferry. Ulster champs. 2014.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
Congrats to Portaferry. Ulster champs. 2014.

Great result for Portaferry, is that their first time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
Congrats to Portaferry. Ulster champs. 2014.

Great result for Portaferry, is that their first time?
I believe so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
Yip. Ports first one, still have to play catchup with their smaller neighbours  8)


Glad to see dule get his hands on it as you'd have to go far to get a more dedicated fella
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
Not a huge surprise as that is a poor enough Dall team, puts the Antrim championship into perspective
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 02, 2014, 04:25:16 PM
Not a huge surprise as that is a poor enough Dall team, puts the Antrim championship into perspective
it was a poor championship this year right enough. That doesn't matter if you win it all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 02, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
Incredible result really surprises me.

Questioning the whole season league & championship at this stage!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
Incredible result really surprises me.

Questioning the whole season league & championship at this stage!
At least kevin Ryan will have a full contingent of players to select to the panel this time around.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
Incredible result really surprises me.

Questioning the whole season league & championship at this stage!
At least kevin Ryan will have a full contingent of players to select to the panel this time around.  ;)

Well if only the Loughgiel lads buy into it....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 02, 2014, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
Incredible result really surprises me.

Questioning the whole season league & championship at this stage!
At least kevin Ryan will have a full contingent of players to select to the panel this time around.  ;)

Well if only the Loughgiel lads buy into it....

This could get interesting . . .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 07:58:11 PM
See w**ker slabbering on Twitter about Cushendall getting beat. The man is bellend of the highest order.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2014, 06:01:26 PM
Incredible result really surprises me.

Questioning the whole season league & championship at this stage!
At least kevin Ryan will have a full contingent of players to select to the panel this time around.  ;)

Well if only the Loughgiel lads buy into it....
One can only buy into it if one is selected. Wouldn't you say mr2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 07:58:11 PM
See w**ker slabbering on Twitter about Cushendall getting beat. The man is bellend of the highest order.
From what I see he said that now cushendall know it isn't easy to win an all Ireland. It isn't, as a matter of fact.  It doesn't help your case that your captain was talking about winning the all Ireland in the papers before having won the Ulster title. A tad disrespectful to the other clubs involved don't you think in its own right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Of course it is disrespectful, I'm not debating that. Watson just couldn't wait to get his phone and spell words wrong on social media!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Of course it is disrespectful, I'm not debating that. Watson just couldn't wait to get his phone and spell words wrong on social media!
That unfollow button comes in wile handy PJ.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 02, 2014, 09:17:29 PM
Fair play to Portaferry today. Bar the last 15 minutes of the first half they were fantastic. Built a good lead then lost it before pushing on immediately in the second half. The dall looked flat throughout with little cohesion so possibly the previous weeks endeavours took their tole. The young bloods up front really lead the line for the ports and they put their bodies on the line at the back when there was plenty of ball dropping into the sqaure. Who would begrudge the likes of Dule, Andy Savage and old warriors like Stephen Murray their day in the limelight. They've been fantastic servants for their club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
A club mate who was at the game said ports got off to a flyer, had a 5 or 6 point lead and inexplicably attempted to play a sweeper which invited the dall onto them and they duly closed the gap. Fair play to them if they sorted it out and pushed on in the second half.

Some pics of Chris hunters big smiling boat race doing the rounds already. He'll be in some state, glad I'm not in his company tonight as you'd get a friendly punch in the jaw handly enough from the big man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 02, 2014, 09:49:01 PM
Intriguing stuff, Ports worked like dogs and got their just rewards.  Like many in C'dall and beyond I didnt see it coming tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 02, 2014, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2014, 08:42:57 PM
Of course it is disrespectful, I'm not debating that. Watson just couldn't wait to get his phone and spell words wrong on social media!
That unfollow button comes in wile handy PJ.  ;)

Sure I know that..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 02, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
As I said, Championship is championship, always the potential of the banana skin, Dall, Cross and St. Galls, now who would have thought that? Championship is championship.  Good luck to the Ports, totally deserved their win. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2014, 09:59:27 AM
def the best team won yesterday. Cushendall didn't get going at all, in fact Portaferry didn't let them. first half portaferry were well on top then just stopped playing for the last 10min of the first half.

second half they came out of the blocks and blitzed Cushendall which they never recovered from. young sands hit two outstanding sidelines from the opposite side of the pitch along with a goal to basically win it.

disappointed for Cushendall but not surprised after seeing them 5 times now in the championship. they were poor against us (we were worse!)and in the antrim final. Sneill should of beat them in the semi at ownebeg and IMO were lucky that Sneill had the football final the week before for the replay.

Cdalls defence is tight and really good but up front they def are lacking. shane will make a big difference when fully fit and his brother will get better with age.

well done to portaferry in winning their first Ulster title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
Deserved win for Portaferry, they were the better team and had the better hunger first to every ball for most of the game, it was the last ten minutes before the dall realised they weren't gonna win. Disgraceful what happened to McManus off the ball and it wasn't a wonder he wasn't quite the same in the second half as has been seen of him before. I believe the fella got a boot in the knackers from a woman on the side lines for his trouble, pity I missed it.

Very young team there though with  karl mckeegan and Sean Delargy only ones over 30 and a lot of strong teens playing, I think they punched above their weight this year but bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
Deserved win for Portaferry, they were the better team and had the better hunger first to every ball for most of the game, it was the last ten minutes before the dall realised they weren't gonna win. Disgraceful what happened to McManus off the ball and it wasn't a wonder he wasn't quite the same in the second half as has been seen of him before. I believe the fella got a boot in the knackers from a woman on the side lines for his trouble, pity I missed it.

Very young team there though with  karl mckeegan and Sean Delargy only ones over 30 and a lot of strong teens playing, I think they punched above their weight this year but bodes well for the future.

What happened our Neil?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
He got the end of a hurl rammed in the side of his faceguard knocking him out, of the ball, then a portaferry player ran over and tried to pick him up.

I know the TV cameras were there, anywhere you could get to watch highlights or that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
I missed that happening. I rem the ferry lad clearing it and Neil was right behind him then next thing I heard a roar and he was on the ground. I didn't see what happened him and if the portaferry man hit him. I seen the woman run onto the pitch as well, she had no right to be there and it could of escalated the situation even more so.

the fella that drew on Karl mc keegan was lucky to stay on as well. though Neil didn't cover himself in glory by falling like a fairy in that scuffle. he goes down too easy, ive said that before on here, he doesn't need to throw his arms up and show the ref he feels he's being fouled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
He got the end of a hurl rammed in the side of his faceguard knocking him out, of the ball, then a portaferry player ran over and tried to pick him up.

I know the TV cameras were there, anywhere you could get to watch highlights or that?

And you're going to stand over that?  ::)   I'd expect you'd have some serious questions for the Dall management, keeping a concussed man on the pitch and giving him free taking duty
?

The derry wans behind me said he got tackled in the chest by the ports player coming in with a straight hurl just after the ball was away. They said it was a yellow card offence and no more and thought Neil tried to make the most of it by staying down. I myself didn't see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2014, 01:01:38 PM
Maybe Neil will be throwing his arms in the air alot more if Kevin Ryan extends an invitation to a certain Shamrock? 8)

Does anyone know the situation for relegation in division 2?
Gort Cushendun & Randalstown all level on points - but Randalstwon going down on points difference? Or is there a head2head?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 03, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2014, 01:01:38 PM
Maybe Neil will be throwing his arms in the air alot more if Kevin Ryan extends an invitation to a certain Shamrock? 8)

Does anyone know the situation for relegation in division 2?
Gort Cushendun & Randalstown all level on points - but Randalstwon going down on points difference? Or is there a head2head?

is it 2 up 2 down? Is it like that in every division?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
He got the end of a hurl rammed in the side of his faceguard knocking him out, of the ball, then a portaferry player ran over and tried to pick him up.

I know the TV cameras were there, anywhere you could get to watch highlights or that?

And you're going to stand over that?  ::)   I'd expect you'd have some serious questions for the Dall management, keeping a concussed man on the pitch and giving him free taking duty
?

The derry wans behind me said he got tackled in the chest by the ports player coming in with a straight hurl just after the ball was away. They said it was a yellow card offence and no more and thought Neil tried to make the most of it by staying down. I myself didn't see it.

You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?

You were 100 feet away but you know he was knocked unconscious thereby inferring that the Cushendall medics put one of their players life at risk by allowing him to play on?  Or are you just making that bit up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?

You were 100 feet away but you know he was knocked unconscious thereby inferring that the Cushendall medics put one of their players life at risk by allowing him to play on?  Or are you just making that bit up?

If you read what I wrote you'd see I said if he wasn't fit to play on then it would raise questions. at no point did I infer he couldn't play on but I feel it clearly affected his play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2014, 03:39:25 PM
from not seeing it and the way he was laid out I thought he was out cold. the fact one of the portaferry players tried to lift him up made me think he was making a meal of it. but I didn't see what happened as I was following the ball up the pitch like most people.

I thought e hasson reffed the game well. he was sensible throughout the game and didn't react to any of the nonsense going on off the ball when it occurred.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?

You were 100 feet away but you know he was knocked unconscious thereby inferring that the Cushendall medics put one of their players life at risk by allowing him to play on?  Or are you just making that bit up?

If you read what I wrote you'd see I said if he wasn't fit to play on then it would raise questions. at no point did I infer he couldn't play on but I feel it clearly affected his play.

Right, he wasn't knocked out, or concussed, was fit to play on but the knock he took affected his play?

Am I understanding you correctly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?

You were 100 feet away but you know he was knocked unconscious thereby inferring that the Cushendall medics put one of their players life at risk by allowing him to play on?  Or are you just making that bit up?

If you read what I wrote you'd see I said if he wasn't fit to play on then it would raise questions. at no point did I infer he couldn't play on but I feel it clearly affected his play.

How about you read what you've 'wrote'?

You said in your initial post he was knocked out and as yet you haven't retracted it. Straight question .... Was Neil McManus knocked out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 03, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
He is a drama Queen regardless. I've watched him throw himself down whilst squealing numerous times. It is very 'socceresque' and has no place in hurling. Players who try to con frees from a referee deserve all they get.

Terrible year for club hurling in Antrim. Such a lack of intensity in many championship games. League 1A post split was abysmal. To end on a positive note 1b post split was very productive and division 2 produced plenty of good games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
all the top teams being on one side of the draw didn't help. its one of those things that happened as luck would have it but it meant everyone writing the championship off before it even started.

Cushendall deserved to win it. they only conceded 1 goal in Antrim and 1 goal in ulster. they were the best of what was a bad bunch. portaferry winning ulster was good to see for a club that hasn't had any success at that level despite having some brilliant players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
Firstly congratulations to Portaferry who are worthy Ulster Champions and best of luck to them in the All Ireland series. I must however take issue with some of the recent comments and the performance of the referee. Dunloy Realist said that he though Hassan handled the game well and didn't react to any of the off the ball stuff. That would be exactly my complaint, he didn't react at all. I though Neil was given some very rough treatment which the referee failed to deal with properly. Paul Branniff was lucky to stay on the field as was the wing back who blindsided Neil with the late shoulder to the chest/ face. However the worst thing for me was the Portaferry player who took it upon himself to try and hall an injured player to his feet. How had he any idea the extent of the injury? Had the injury been a serious neck/back or head injury he could have done immensely serious further damage. If placing your hand on an opponents face guard is an automatic red card then surely interfering with an injured player should be as well? To be honest I was amazed Portaferry resorted to those tactics in the closing 10 minutes of the first half because they were well on top and they let us back in. When they concentrated on hurling in the second half they were excellent and fully deserved their victory. I would also like to state, before anyone pulls me up on it, the referee didn't cost us the game but I do take exception to how he performed and his refusal to deal with incidents. As far as we are concerned, well its never too early to win a Championship but we are a seriously young team who exceeded many people's expectations. Its been great for these young lads to win a county championship and play Ulster club and it'll stand to them. Its a massive ask to win the Antrim title and any of ourselves, Loughgiel, Dunloy or Ballycastle could win it in 2015 but we'll be in better shape starting 2015 than we were starting 2014.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
You'd need to ask the medic I was standing a good 100 feet away and if he wasn't fit to play on then certainly it'd raises questions, is anyone going to say he played his usual game in the second half?

You were 100 feet away but you know he was knocked unconscious thereby inferring that the Cushendall medics put one of their players life at risk by allowing him to play on?  Or are you just making that bit up?

If you read what I wrote you'd see I said if he wasn't fit to play on then it would raise questions. at no point did I infer he couldn't play on but I feel it clearly affected his play.

Right, he wasn't knocked out, or concussed, was fit to play on but the knock he took affected his play?

Am I understanding you correctly?

How would I know if he was concussed? I said what I'd seen he appeared out to me as he never reacted to the other fella lifting him, obviously the decision to allow him to play on was made by the people in the best position to do so the Cushendall management, sideline staff and player himself not by me or you in the crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
I'm not condoning him doing it JJ as I didn't see the incident but is it possible, knowing the contact that he made that he believed Neil was over egging it in an attempt to get a player sent off? That's not outside the realms of possibility. The people behind me who were neutrals from Swatragh thought it was a foul and yellow card as the ports player ran into him off the ball but it wasn't what they would have called a heavy hit. That would line up with the ports player reaction to him going down and staying down. Regardless, I'm not sure what you expected any of the officials to do if they didn't see it? Can't remember the dule incident (oh I didnt a good angle watching that one but was that the time he had possession and I presume swiped back onto the player tackling him and getting yellow? ... a red card?? really??) but I remember Karl getting a bad slap which got a warranted yellow card, so how can you say he refused to deal with these incidents, because he dealt with what he seen? I don't know if I seen enough to call any underhanded tackles 'a tactic'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 03, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
He is a drama Queen regardless. I've watched him throw himself down whilst squealing numerous times. It is very 'socceresque' and has no place in hurling. Players who try to con frees from a referee deserve all they get.

Terrible year for club hurling in Antrim. Such a lack of intensity in many championship games. League 1A post split was abysmal. To end on a positive note 1b post split was very productive and division 2 produced plenty of good games.

Good points - Agree all round. Definitely an aspect of his game McManus needs to deal with.
Although I do feel division 2 produced good games more because they were competitive than quality which was lacking.
Division 1 didn't ever seen to get much fight amongst any games I went to - but most of all I feel the lop-sided freakish championship draw ruined the season.
Seeding anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 03, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
He is a drama Queen regardless. I've watched him throw himself down whilst squealing numerous times. It is very 'socceresque' and has no place in hurling. Players who try to con frees from a referee deserve all they get.

Terrible year for club hurling in Antrim. Such a lack of intensity in many championship games. League 1A post split was abysmal. To end on a positive note 1b post split was very productive and division 2 produced plenty of good games.

Good points - Agree all round. Definitely an aspect of his game McManus needs to deal with.
Although I do feel division 2 produced good games more because they were competitive than quality which was lacking.
Division 1 didn't ever seen to get much fight amongst any games I went to - but most of all I feel the lop-sided freakish championship draw ruined the season.
Seeding anyone?
sure that would be fixed.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
He got the end of a hurl rammed in the side of his faceguard knocking him out

Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
How would I know if he was concussed? I said what I'd seen he appeared out to me as he never reacted to the other fella lifting him, obviously the decision to allow him to play on was made by the people in the best position to do so the Cushendall management, sideline staff and player himself not by me or you in the crowd.

If you didn't know he was knocked out, then why say he WAS knocked out based on a loose/dangerous assumption?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
Skull, regardless of what he believed was "not outside the realms of possibility," nobody should judge for themselves the result of what was a full frontal charge or any other injury on a sports pitch. I've seen several innocuous looking challenges result in serious injuries.  I did see the hit and it was a fair impact coming from the blindside. I accept that the referee may not have seen the initial hit but he certainly would have seen the Ports player try and lift an injured opponent off the ground which happened a good 15-20 seconds after the initial incident and when everyone's attention had been drawn to that area of the pitch. I will again ask the question, should interfering with an injured opponent warrant an instant dismissal? Just imagine the damage that could be done in the event of this happening to a badly injured player? Re- Branniff you yourself said he "swiped back onto the player tackling him..." So if you have the ball in your hand and you swipe back at a player tackling you it would be impossible to claim you were playing the ball. Therefore it is at best dangerous play but more likely an attempt to strike an opponent. Again these incidents are not the reason we lost but they are legitimate points for discussion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
He got the end of a hurl rammed in the side of his faceguard knocking him out

Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
How would I know if he was concussed? I said what I'd seen he appeared out to me as he never reacted to the other fella lifting him, obviously the decision to allow him to play on was made by the people in the best position to do so the Cushendall management, sideline staff and player himself not by me or you in the crowd.

If you didn't know he was knocked out, then why say he WAS knocked out based on a loose/dangerous assumption?

A concussion is different to being knocked out.

from where I was it looked like he was knocked out, if you believe he wasnt that's fair enough, I'm sure it'll come to light. Never the less my issue was with the action causing it rather than the result of it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2014, 07:10:13 PM
Firstly. Hard luck to a young cdall team, winning antrim was a big achievement in my opinion. No doubt they'll be around for a while. But won't dominate just yet, ourselves dunloy and maybe Ballycastle will be looking at trying to take the crown next year. Sure it will be whoever wants it most in my opinion, now congrats to the ards men. Some achievement for them. Unreal in fact. I think they played the only way they could to win.hard hitting high intensity. Roughing up at all chances. And it worked.they got under cdall skin from the start and a few of cdall younger players were found wanting.  But again,absolutely no harm intended when I say that. Cdall are a very young team. Super for them to have a championship under them with such a young squad.  I wonder will what cdall have done this year give the town a boot up the arse? They've as much young talent but have filled the togs as past two years.   Anyway,time will tell. Good luck to portaferry in there training and build up to there all ireland semi. And bring on 2015. Few faces back in the shamrock camp!!!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
Sham Man what a load of s**t. It says a lot about you that you accuse someone who was hit a dirty late tackle of cheating and yet have nothing to say about the fella who made the late, dirty tackle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
Utter tripe fella. Complete balls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Its been taken on the chin and we are moving on. As I've posted more than once congratulations to Portaferry, the best team won. I just won't let someone spout utter rubbish about one of our players without challenging them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 03, 2014, 06:53:06 PM
A concussion is different to being knocked out.

from where I was it looked like he was knocked out, if you believe he wasnt that's fair enough, I'm sure it'll come to light. Never the less my issue was with the action causing it rather than the result of it.

Yes you're right, but to be knocked out (i.e lose consciousness for a few seconds or more) is to be, at the very least, concussed.

The reality is I don't know if he was or not. The way he got up and played on it didn't look like it but its happened before where players who have been weren't spotted as being concussed (but still maintained consciousness) and played on, so what do I know?   ... its getting pedantic now but there you go

JJ I agree in principle that an opponent shouldn't touch any injured player on the ground but I've never seen or heard of anyone getting the line for doing it so I dont see why it should have been the case yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Its been taken on the chin and we are moving on. As I've posted more than once congratulations to Portaferry, the best team won. I just won't let someone spout utter rubbish about one of our players without challenging them.
Come on JJ, what will them McCooey - chip eaters think of us? Fur Fux to ya man, I like your style.  All good things have a start and an end, despite the end being a bit premature, its all over for 2014. Always next year though, and lets hope the draw is a more favourable one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
We'd like a handier quarter final in 2015 right enough!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
On another note, I see Antrim can resume training on the 15th November. I wonder what plans kevin has in store this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
It will be interesting to see how we shape up with a full panel from the start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 03, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
We'd like a handier quarter final in 2015 right enough!!
Either way JJ, it still has to be won.  Sure on Graffins predictions, you may win one cup or possibly two next year, but certainly not three, thats along way off yet.  TM Cup will be out of reach for another while I reckon.  ;)  Donnae let that Graffin boi get you lads ahead of yourselves, a major mistake as has been proven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 03, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Guys, guys can we not just all get along and pay tribute to a mighty Portaferry performance ?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
On another note, I see Antrim can resume training on the 15th November. I wonder what plans kevin has in store this season.
Will he (KR) not need to consult with McManus and S. McNaughton firstly?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 03, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Guys, guys can we not just all get along and pay tribute to a mighty Portaferry performance ?!
Totally agree, bloody marvelous performance by Portaferry.  Their gutsy endeavours warranted the victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2014, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 03, 2014, 08:39:50 PM
Do ye reckon that getevennotcross, sham-man, dearyme and a few others are the same person?
yes.  And he's not from Loughgiel.  Fact!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
On another note, I see Antrim can resume training on the 15th November. I wonder what plans kevin has in store this season.
Will he (KR) not need to consult with McManus and S. McNaughton firstly?  ;D
Sure I wouldn't know about that Ted. 😉

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:51:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on November 03, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
On another note, I see Antrim can resume training on the 15th November. I wonder what plans kevin has in store this season.
Will he (KR) not need to consult with McManus and S. McNaughton firstly?  ;D
Sure I wouldn't know about that Ted. 😉

(https://sandystrachan.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/father-dougal-mcguire.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4PrXhVny_d41mQ8WU0Q-UiqAP6YUbRFMDW77HpEtQxj4-60Pd)  Sure lets 'Doogle' it??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Ports cutting up rough eh, never thought they had it in them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2014, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Ports cutting up rough eh, never thought they had it in them!

Refereed them against the Johnnies at the end of august and boy they were rubbish, what happened ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 03, 2014, 10:42:34 PM
The referee let her go a bit more it would seem .....wee joke jj  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2014, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 03, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Ports cutting up rough eh, never thought they had it in them!

Refereed them against the Johnnies at the end of august and boy they were rubbish, what happened ?

We played them a few weeks before that again and hammered them, they just looked disinterested then, but obviously come championship they got themselves sorted out..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
im still surprised they won Down this year, like everyone we all thought Ballycran would win t going on current form. portaferry were playing poor most of the year and ballycran were going really well. I actually fancied them to do well in ulster!

that went out the window! to see them win Ulster now is def the one team I didn't expect it to happen to. fair play to them, they have played well when it mattered the most and now have an all Ireland semi final to look forward to for the first time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
im still surprised they won Down this year, like everyone we all thought Ballycran would win t going on current form. portaferry were playing poor most of the year and ballycran were going really well. I actually fancied them to do well in ulster!

that went out the window! to see them win Ulster now is def the one team I didn't expect it to happen to. fair play to them, they have played well when it mattered the most and now have an all Ireland semi final to look forward to for the first time.

If anything Ballycran believed their own hype with brought in coaches and what not filling their heads full of shite. After seeing them against Portaferry they really lacked scoring forwards. Their full forward line in particular lacked any real bite and were easily bullied out of it by the Ports. When you see corner forwards drifting out the field to pick up a loose ball or two even though they'd plenty of possession to work with closer to goal you know its time to start writing the substitution note.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
it was surprising considering they beat us twice, they also beat ballycastle, loughgiel and Cushendall as well. they def looked a decent team from what I seen of them.

having seen portaferry on sunday im surprised at their league form considering how they played.

its as the saying goes, leagues are for playing in and championships are for winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
it was surprising considering they beat us twice, they also beat ballycastle, loughgiel and Cushendall as well. they def looked a decent team from what I seen of them.

having seen portaferry on sunday im surprised at their league form considering how they played.

its as the saying goes, leagues are for playing in and championships are for winning.

Well considering their lowest winning margin in the championship was against Ballycran, maybe they're the second best team in Ulster  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 04, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 04, 2014, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
it was surprising considering they beat us twice, they also beat ballycastle, loughgiel and Cushendall as well. they def looked a decent team from what I seen of them.

having seen portaferry on sunday im surprised at their league form considering how they played.

its as the saying goes, leagues are for playing in and championships are for winning.

Well considering their lowest winning margin in the championship was against Ballycran, maybe they're the second best team in Ulster  ;D
Truer words were never spoken. Up the Shams.  ;D  As I keep saying, Championship is Championship - on any given day the underdog can raise their game to unexpected levels.  Thats the beauty of Championship.  As my oul fella always says "No certainties in life, just possibilities"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 04, 2014, 06:11:39 PM
been a while but not much seems to have changed apart from antrim and ulster champions that is !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 05, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 02, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 01, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Hi people, I'm not getting home this weekend due to work commitments, firm got a contract in Parkhurst Prison, Isle of Wight and good money for weekend work.  Cant make it to Owenbeg obviously, will someone keep the running commentary on the game/score etc? My da and his brother are going, but are not very up with the technology bit.

It would be appreciated.  I suspect the Dall will edge it maybe but you never know. ::)
Not many prisons you'd be allowed a phone into.
Hey Last man, you were right.  I was not allowed my phone or tablet in.  To cap it all, just dropped my phone down a grate beside the van, a new phone required when I get home at the weekend.  Just heard last night the Cushendall v Portaferry result, hard luck Cushendall, good luck to Portaferry, that was a real turn up for the books.  St. Galls beaten as well, a bad weekend past for Antrim clubs.

D-Day looming also for Casement project. UC/ACB back in court next Monday 10 Nov '14.  Interesting times indeed, we could be homeless next week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 07, 2014, 09:52:14 PM
Back in action, just got my new phone after best part of the week without it, back in action thank goodness.  Very quiet around here lately, trusting no one has died?  :D  Not much crack in the Gravediggers this evening either, although that's no bad thing.

Maybe Mondays court case will liven things up a little, we may all be destitute at the end of the day?  I wonder will Ravenhill be free on Sundays for NHL games commencing Feb '15?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
Kevin Ryan says that he won't be selecting winker for the Antrim panel no matter how well he plays. Nice to keep an open mind there kevin. Unreal.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 08, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
What happens on Monday? Is a verdict given.  If the decision goes against the GAA does that end the redevelopment as a prospect or do they redesign and resubmit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 08, 2014, 09:35:42 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 08, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
What happens on Monday? Is a verdict given.  If the decision goes against the GAA does that end the redevelopment as a prospect or do they redesign and resubmit
If things don't go as planned for the County, the money is lost, there is no plan B as they say.  Only in Antrim, were the laughing stock of the country. But less we all forget, all our respective clubs voted in the County Executive, now thats a sobering thought, is it not?  ::)

Down at the Aviva in Dublin watching the Rugby this evening, the Guinness is much nice than Sambos, I think he my be watering his in the Gravediggers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 08, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
Kevin Ryan says that he won't be selecting winker for the Antrim panel no matter how well he plays. Nice to keep an open mind there kevin. Unreal.  ::)
Hi SIE, is it maybe a case that despite the undoubted talent of Watson, that KR feels he is unable to manage the gifted one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 08, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 08, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
RE: Winker.

To be honest, I'm glad.  He is too divisive a character and I wouldn't want him in my changing room.  He has done a lot of damage over the last while back himself with his snidey comments on social media and in the wider press.  He is forever taking pot shots at other clubs and players - Mushy a few years back, the stuff after Cushendall being beaten by Portaferry. 

From a hurling point of view, he most certainly has been a loss.  There is no doubt about that.  But it is more than that.  It's about who and what we are.  What example do we want to set for our future?  Do we want to put up on a pedestal men like Winker (and some others on the football side of Antrim) who will make public cheap shots at some other good Antrim people and who has questioned the legitimacy and character of the current Antrim management? 

Like what does he expect? He has spent the last few years criticising the Cushendall contingent and Kevin Ryan's control of the squad and then now he's going to cry about not being considered for the panel this year?  As I have said, he could certainly offer a lot to the hurling squad as an option but in my opinion, the divisiveness would far outweigh his hurling ability and ultimately, that would be to the detriment of the squad.  It is a real pity that this will impact on the participation of his other club men but if that's the route they choose to take then so be it.
Kettle calling the pot black.  Have you not questioned the legitimacy of Antrim Management in the not too distant past, and I quote:
No doubt the Bradley duo seem a bit of a joke but in any team how can you stand shoulder to shoulder with people who are willing to walk at any stage, not least just before championship?

Only loss in terms of improvement to team is CJ. GKs are easily replaced and Pollock has never done it at county level. As I said I wouldn't want to be going out to play alongside 3 yellow bellies who are up their own holes when going into battle.

Get rid of Bradleys next year. Keep CJ and his 2 arse licking friends away from it. Invest in the future and give youth a chance. Sure we couldnt do any worse. Nothing to lose.

Enough said, me thinks.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
The sad reality is that in football and hurling our county teams are probably better off without our best forward :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 09, 2014, 12:02:15 AM
It's ironic but I agree. More sad if you ask me. Imagine Armagh without Stevie McDonnell or Tipp without Lar. Recently we have had the players but not the character. Hopefully thst changs in the future.
On the other hand, imagine Chips without Salt and Vinegar or Spuds & Cabbage without the Bacon.  Talent needs to be nurtured and managed at the same time.  In conclusion therefore, we may have the players, but not the right type of man managers?

Incidentally, I note you did not respond to my observation in that you don't attack managers. Nuff said!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 09:46:04 AM
It's all the better for loughgiel if he isn't selected for Antrim. I want to put it on record that I hope that it doesn't affect the decision making of any of our hurlers in going to the county panel if selected. Its an honour to play for your county at any level and no matter who is in control of the selection process.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
There has never been a situation open for him to return to the fold mickey. That door has been firmly closed. And yes, it might appear to be one way in social media but I can assure you it is far from that behind closed doors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 09, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
There has never been a situation open for him to return to the fold mickey. That door has been firmly closed. And yes, it might appear to be one way in social media but I can assure you it is far from that behind closed doors.

If a player doesn't want to play for the county then move on, regardless of the reasons. Kevin Ryan is a great manager! We need to be careful what we wish for. I would love to see more Shamrocks on the county team, especially some of those talented attackers that they have always been able to produce. With regards to Winker - I think he is more bother than he is worth. I've also thought for a long time that actually Benny McCarry is the best attacker in the county. Hope he comes home from AUS, he is a bloody good player.

To finish off McManus made a few snide comments himself last season and therefore shoulders some of the blame. Secondly, being one of the very very few county supporters to have been at every game home and away he would be better focusing on his performances, he is highly overrated. There are better players (combination of attitude and ability) on the panel, Neal McAuley to name one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 09, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
There has never been a situation open for him to return to the fold mickey. That door has been firmly closed. And yes, it might appear to be one way in social media but I can assure you it is far from that behind closed doors.

If a player doesn't want to play for the county then move on, regardless of the reasons. Kevin Ryan is a great manager! We need to be careful what we wish for. I would love to see more Shamrocks on the county team, especially some of those talented attackers that they have always been able to produce. With regards to Winker - I think he is more bother than he is worth. I've also thought for a long time that actually Benny McCarry is the best attacker in the county. Hope he comes home from AUS, he is a bloody good player.

To finish off McManus made a few snide comments himself last season and therefore shoulders some of the blame. Secondly, being one of the very very few county supporters to have been at every game home and away he would be better focusing on his performances, he is highly overrated. There are better players (combination of attitude and ability) on the panel, Neal McAuley to name one.
Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.

I would be of the opinion also, great managers would not be under the influence of hasbeens and those who have failed to achieve in the past.  Can we honestly say that KR, a good committed hurling man as he is, has not been open to influence and the negative prejudice of the tribal cliques within the team, and more worryingly peripheral administrators.  I think not?

I could not agree with you more HS, N. McAuley would be be a significant asset to any team and should be given an opportunity to step up to the plate.  McManus and McNaughton (s) to name but a few, were instrumental in creating the hostile environment for the return of the Loughguile players.  Should Watson, McCarry, Shay Casey and some of those other Loughguile lads be invited or chose top go back to the county (my sincere wish is they do), such a scenario will require good team and individual personnel management. 

Our underlying issue for our hurlers and footballers for that matter, is they do not feel honoured or take pride in being selected to play for their county. Playing for ones county requires major commitment and discipline, yet the conditions  for such a buy in by the players, needs to be in place and honoured. Far be it from me to have the temerity to suggest I have the panacea to cure the counties ills, in terms of performance and future success, but I know one thing, collective bonding of the individuals and personalities with a 'Team' needs to be managed. We can have all the individual talent in the world, but individual talent is just not enough in our case.  Bringing together in a cohesive manner the  key individuals with higher levels of talent than others, need to be embraced and managed.  We are all unique individuals with varying degrees of ability and personality, yet we all have our demons. Embrace individualism with the purpose of utilising and maximising the potential of such talent, however, manage it to serve the greater purpose and objective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 09, 2014, 08:55:16 PM
Liam Watson - has shown he's one of the most talented forwards our county have produced. However the hassle that goes with him means I just wouldn't select him either.

Neil McManus - not sure where the profile he has comes from. I've never seen him produce the performances on the pitch to back it up. Lazy media etc use him for every outlet - wouldn't be entertained elsewhere.

Kevin Ryan / Antrim - for me it doesn't matter who the manager is. Antrim's season is so predictable and our level so stagnat that a good season & bad season are not that much different. No idea why he gave McManus such a prominent role in the set up - and he needs to stay out of the media constantly complaining about structures no matter what they are. Antrim are in no position to dictate to the rest of the counties - it's just a cop-out for results.

In summary - isn't it typical that a county with such little effect on the national stage spends more time in petty arguments than with hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 09, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
There has never been a situation open for him to return to the fold mickey. That door has been firmly closed. And yes, it might appear to be one way in social media but I can assure you it is far from that behind closed doors.

If a player doesn't want to play for the county then move on, regardless of the reasons. Kevin Ryan is a great manager! We need to be careful what we wish for. I would love to see more Shamrocks on the county team, especially some of those talented attackers that they have always been able to produce. With regards to Winker - I think he is more bother than he is worth. I've also thought for a long time that actually Benny McCarry is the best attacker in the county. Hope he comes home from AUS, he is a bloody good player.

To finish off McManus made a few snide comments himself last season and therefore shoulders some of the blame. Secondly, being one of the very very few county supporters to have been at every game home and away he would be better focusing on his performances, he is highly overrated. There are better players (combination of attitude and ability) on the panel, Neal McAuley to name one.
Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.

I would be of the opinion also, great managers would not be under the influence of hasbeens and those who have failed to achieve in thesi past.  Can we honestly say that KR, a good committed hurling man as he is, has not been open to influence and the negative prejudice of the tribal cliques within the team, and more worryingly peripheral administrators.  I think not?

I could not agree with you more HS, N. McAuley would be be a significant asset to any team and should be given an opportunity to step up to the plate.  McManus and McNaughton (s) to name but a few, were instrumental in creating the hostile environment for the return of the Loughguile players.  Should Watson, McCarry, Shay Casey and some of those other Loughguile lads be invited or chose top go back to the county (my sincere wish is they do), such a scenario will require good team and individual personnel management. 

Our underlying issue for our hurlers and footballers for that matter, is they do not feel honoured or take pride in being selected to play for their county. Playing for ones county requires major commitment and discipline, yet the conditions  for such a buy in by the players, needs to be in place and honoured. Far be it from me to have the temerity to suggest I have the panacea to cure the counties ills, in terms of performance and future success, but I know one thing, collective bonding of the individuals and personalities with a 'Team' needs to be managed. We can have all the individual talent in the world, but individual talent is just not enough in our case.  Bringing together in a cohesive manner the  key individuals with higher levels of talent than others, need to be embraced and managed.  We are all unique individuals with varying degrees of ability and personality, yet we all have our demons. Embrace individualism with the purpose of utilising and maximising the potential of such talent, however, manage it to serve the greater purpose and objective.
never seen it put better. 110% right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2014, 12:58:50 PM
LW not playing for antrim is old news. the lad had his day and its over, end of.

he has enough problems in playing for his club at times let along the county! ive always said hes a great hurler but hes one who im glad doesn't play for us. that's not some sort of anti loughgiel thing due to me being from Dunloy, I would have eddie mc closkey in my team any day of the week along with DD and johnny Campbell. I wouldn't have him in my team, hes a bad disruption.

I want antrim to do well and progress and to do that we need players from lgiel on the team esp the likes of eddie and tony mccloskey, they can only improve us.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 10, 2014, 12:58:50 PM
LW not playing for antrim is old news. the lad had his day and its over, end of.

he has enough problems in playing for his club at times let along the county! ive always said hes a great hurler but hes one who im glad doesn't play for us. that's not some sort of anti loughgiel thing due to me being from Dunloy, I would have eddie mc closkey in my team any day of the week along with DD and johnny Campbell. I wouldn't have him in my team, hes a bad disruption.

I want antrim to do well and progress and to do that we need players from lgiel on the team esp the likes of eddie and tony mccloskey, they can only improve us.
After the way Eddie was treated this past year don't hold your breath.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
its a pity because hes a brilliant forward. spoke to him at one of the games in ballycastle and asked in passing was there any chance of him coming back. he sort of laughed and shugged his shoulders.

I told him as long as he doesn't play well against us I don't mind what he does lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2014, 02:28:12 PM
To be honest LW not playing is not that big a deal as like DR says it's old news. Not that I know the fella at all but it just hasn't worked out over the years for various reasons.

It would bother me a lot more that Eddie McCloskey might not be playing as he's a boy we could really do with in the half forward line for his size and work-rate. Tony looks to be improving a lot too and would probably be an addition.

We need or best players playing but can do without one or two(i.e. Watson). If a lot of other Loughgiel boys go missing though then we'll be a long way off our best team so hopefully something can be sorted.

Loughgiel getting a rest this year will only do them good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 10, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM

Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.


No offense but I think there's delusions of grandeur in Antrim a bit if you'd expect to be winning trophies, other than the one game Ulster championship which Kevin has already done.

Getting out of Div1B would be a monumental achievement and avoiding relegation in itself is not to be sniffed at with the current batch of Antrim hurlers.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 10, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 10, 2014, 02:28:12 PM
To be honest LW not playing is not that big a deal as like DR says it's old news. Not that I know the fella at all but it just hasn't worked out over the years for various reasons.

It would bother me a lot more that Eddie McCloskey might not be playing as he's a boy we could really do with in the half forward line for his size and work-rate. Tony looks to be improving a lot too and would probably be an addition.

We need or best players playing but can do without one or two(i.e. Watson). If a lot of other Loughgiel boys go missing though then we'll be a long way off our best team so hopefully something can be sorted.

Loughgiel getting a rest this year will only do them good.

Was KR not quoted in the Irish News that Eddie and Tony McCloskey were coming back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
Not sure - hopefully!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2014, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 10, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM

Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.


No offense but I think there's delusions of grandeur in Antrim a bit if you'd expect to be winning trophies, other than the one game Ulster championship which Kevin has already done.

Getting out of Div1B would be a monumental achievement and avoiding relegation in itself is not to be sniffed at with the current batch of Antrim hurlers.

that would be something. if we could achieve something like that it would be massive for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on November 10, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
I think KR Antrim set-up is definitely a positive. The team have been back training for several weeks. Last year the U21s were integrated with the seniors which is a first I think for Antrim. Both these things are how successful counties down south work. And as for the Watson issue I think in this case he is correct to leave him out. His hurling ability is not being questioned but he takes away from a positive atmosphere in the squad which I understand the rest of the Loughgiel players buy into. Would be great to see a relatively young squad push on and be competitive in Div 1b and Leinster!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on November 10, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
I think KR Antrim set-up is definitely a positive. The team have been back training for several weeks. Last year the U21s were integrated with the seniors which is a first I think for Antrim. Both these things are how successful counties down south work. And as for the Watson issue I think in this case he is correct to leave him out. His hurling ability is not being questioned but he takes away from a positive atmosphere in the squad which I understand the rest of the Loughgiel players buy into. Would be great to see a relatively young squad push on and be competitive in Div 1b and Leinster!
just heard that Tony, Eddie and Chrissy  are all training with the county panel. Good to hear. Is Odhrán training this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 10, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM

Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.


No offense but I think there's delusions of grandeur in Antrim a bit if you'd expect to be winning trophies, other than the one game Ulster championship which Kevin has already done.

Getting out of Div1B would be a monumental achievement and avoiding relegation in itself is not to be sniffed at with the current batch of Antrim hurlers.

I've never thought or spoken to anyone who seriously believes otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 10, 2014, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 09, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 09, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2014, 11:24:10 AM
There has never been a situation open for him to return to the fold mickey. That door has been firmly closed. And yes, it might appear to be one way in social media but I can assure you it is far from that behind closed doors.

If a player doesn't want to play for the county then move on, regardless of the reasons. Kevin Ryan is a great manager! We need to be careful what we wish for. I would love to see more Shamrocks on the county team, especially some of those talented attackers that they have always been able to produce. With regards to Winker - I think he is more bother than he is worth. I've also thought for a long time that actually Benny McCarry is the best attacker in the county. Hope he comes home from AUS, he is a bloody good player.

To finish off McManus made a few snide comments himself last season and therefore shoulders some of the blame. Secondly, being one of the very very few county supporters to have been at every game home and away he would be better focusing on his performances, he is highly overrated. There are better players (combination of attitude and ability) on the panel, Neal McAuley to name one.
Bloody marvelous eh!  So KR is a great manager, I fail to comprehend such an analogy?  Great Managers, win trophies, championships and at the same time change in short order, things which have clearly not worked in the past.  Good managers also develop others which will ensure things get done in the right manner and according to the plan.  In a nutshell, they manage the collective and individuals therein.

I would be of the opinion also, great managers would not be under the influence of hasbeens and those who have failed to achieve in thesi past.  Can we honestly say that KR, a good committed hurling man as he is, has not been open to influence and the negative prejudice of the tribal cliques within the team, and more worryingly peripheral administrators.  I think not?

I could not agree with you more HS, N. McAuley would be be a significant asset to any team and should be given an opportunity to step up to the plate.  McManus and McNaughton (s) to name but a few, were instrumental in creating the hostile environment for the return of the Loughguile players.  Should Watson, McCarry, Shay Casey and some of those other Loughguile lads be invited or chose top go back to the county (my sincere wish is they do), such a scenario will require good team and individual personnel management. 

Our underlying issue for our hurlers and footballers for that matter, is they do not feel honoured or take pride in being selected to play for their county. Playing for ones county requires major commitment and discipline, yet the conditions  for such a buy in by the players, needs to be in place and honoured. Far be it from me to have the temerity to suggest I have the panacea to cure the counties ills, in terms of performance and future success, but I know one thing, collective bonding of the individuals and personalities with a 'Team' needs to be managed. We can have all the individual talent in the world, but individual talent is just not enough in our case.  Bringing together in a cohesive manner the  key individuals with higher levels of talent than others, need to be embraced and managed.  We are all unique individuals with varying degrees of ability and personality, yet we all have our demons. Embrace individualism with the purpose of utilising and maximising the potential of such talent, however, manage it to serve the greater purpose and objective.
never seen it put better. 110% right
Thank you SG.  It took a while getting it right, as I do not wish to cause offence of any sort.  But I am a common 5/8's McCooey probably does not know any better.  It is my sincere wish the Loughguile players go back to the county, putting aside how Eddie McCloskey was treated, which was shambolic nevertheless.  Inasmuch as I have belief in KR, I would never doubt his coaching ability, but man management of teams and individuals within those teams, requires a varied and experienced skills set.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 10, 2014, 09:42:56 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 10, 2014, 08:54:27 PM
P.s. Getevennotcross, that's three trolling private messages you have sent me without getting a reply. Bore off, ballbag.
Now now Mick, no need for profanity, really not necessary at all. Lighten up man, ur BP sure to rise. Maybe we can avoid the insults, just maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2014, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on November 10, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
I think KR Antrim set-up is definitely a positive. The team have been back training for several weeks. Last year the U21s were integrated with the seniors which is a first I think for Antrim. Both these things are how successful counties down south work. And as for the Watson issue I think in this case he is correct to leave him out. His hurling ability is not being questioned but he takes away from a positive atmosphere in the squad which I understand the rest of the Loughgiel players buy into. Would be great to see a relatively young squad push on and be competitive in Div 1b and Leinster!
just heard that Tony, Eddie and Chrissy  are all training with the county panel. Good to hear. Is Odhrán training this year?
I hope Mc Fadden is back after the way he played last year
Good to see some more LG players on the panel. Hope this stops the parinoid mindset.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2014, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2014, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on November 10, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
I think KR Antrim set-up is definitely a positive. The team have been back training for several weeks. Last year the U21s were integrated with the seniors which is a first I think for Antrim. Both these things are how successful counties down south work. And as for the Watson issue I think in this case he is correct to leave him out. His hurling ability is not being questioned but he takes away from a positive atmosphere in the squad which I understand the rest of the Loughgiel players buy into. Would be great to see a relatively young squad push on and be competitive in Div 1b and Leinster!
just heard that Tony, Eddie and Chrissy  are all training with the county panel. Good to hear. Is Odhrán training this year?
I hope Mc Fadden is back after the way he played last year
Good to see some more LG players on the panel. Hope this stops the parinoid mindset.
There was no paranoia NAH. What happened, happened. Hopefully it'll be forgotten and progress made. There's always hope.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 11, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2014, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on November 10, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
I think KR Antrim set-up is definitely a positive. The team have been back training for several weeks. Last year the U21s were integrated with the seniors which is a first I think for Antrim. Both these things are how successful counties down south work. And as for the Watson issue I think in this case he is correct to leave him out. His hurling ability is not being questioned but he takes away from a positive atmosphere in the squad which I understand the rest of the Loughgiel players buy into. Would be great to see a relatively young squad push on and be competitive in Div 1b and Leinster!
just heard that Tony, Eddie and Chrissy  are all training with the county panel. Good to hear. Is Odhrán training this year?
I hope Mc Fadden is back after the way he played last year
Good to see some more LG players on the panel. Hope this stops the parinoid mindset.
Fur fux sake, lets be brutally honest here. :o  The Antrim Hurling panel was not a very warm or receptive place for Shams men when we were on a roll.  Even after defeat this year, Eddie was also shafted by bitter and green eyed elements in the Antrim panel.  Nobody more than me would love to see my club men back doing their bit for the county.  But don't lets pretend what happened, didn't happen.  Certainly hope Duck and Clyde get a call, both have played some savage stuff the past few years.  Strong, gutsy and committed, exactly the sort our county team needs.  Lets reconcile ourselves to the fact ffs, we need the best we can produce, end of!  ::)  Kevin Ryan probably needs to grow a pair and ignore the negative murmurings around him.  Lets wait and see?  :-\  Up the Shams. ;D  Lets be very clear here, the paranoia and bitterness was not of the Shams making, but lets move on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 11, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
As an aside, some of you feckers need to take a chill pill and avoid gettin above yur station, ffs relax.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on November 11, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Geteven I see one of your fav refs if your to believe your posts has called it a day in the Antrim Post today, to be fair its not a bad read whatever opinions you have of the individual, deals with an issue that is getting worse not better if truth be told.It must have been that big cheque for the Derry Final Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tam moore 84.. on November 11, 2014, 07:56:30 PM
Its great that we as a county have so many great hurlers to chose from that we can leave the best hurler antrim or indeed ulster has ever seen out.  A man that set a record on all-ireland club hurling day final in croker scoring 3 - 7 and on all ire-land semi final day scored 16 points.  A man that any other county would only be too delighted to have.  All this 'oh were better off with out him'.  What garbage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 11, 2014, 08:46:39 PM
Thanks for that Liam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 11, 2014, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: blueblood on November 11, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Geteven I see one of your fav refs if your to believe your posts has called it a day in the Antrim Post today, to be fair its not a bad read whatever opinions you have of the individual, deals with an issue that is getting worse not better if truth be told.It must have been that big cheque for the Derry Final Lol
Nope, not me. To put things in perspective, I for one dont have a fav referee. To be perfectly honest, never had any great love for them, opportunists, egotists and shiesters, well the majority of them anyway. The only decent ones I recall, Billy Reid, Gough and Tommy Mc a something from up the country. Good, decent, genuine and principled individuals.

In addition, I dont subscribe to the local toe rags, CAP, AN, IN etc. I'more of an Irish Times man and Examiner myself. I'll have to take your word for it that its not a bad read, but maybe, you would know about such a subject matter, more so than I?  Bottom line for me, I dont give one jot. I suspect that may be where all refs differ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2014, 11:18:25 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on November 11, 2014, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: blueblood on November 11, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Geteven I see one of your fav refs if your to believe your posts has called it a day in the Antrim Post today, to be fair its not a bad read whatever opinions you have of the individual, deals with an issue that is getting worse not better if truth be told.It must have been that big cheque for the Derry Final Lol
Nope, not me. To put things in perspective, I for one dont have a fav referee. To be perfectly honest, never had any great love for them, opportunists, egotists and shiesters, well the majority of them anyway. The only decent ones I recall, Billy Reid, Gough and Tommy Mc a something from up the country. Good, decent, genuine and principled individuals.

In addition, I dont subscribe to the local toe rags, CAP, AN, IN etc. I'more of an Irish Times man and Examiner myself. I'll have to take your word for it that its not a bad read, but maybe, you would know about such a subject matter, more so than I?  Bottom line for me, I dont give one jot. I suspect that may be where all refs differ?

You must be some craic on a night out. Proper dark cloud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on November 12, 2014, 07:05:06 AM
Geteven I have to concur with MR2, I sense a different tune on that old fiddle of yours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on November 12, 2014, 09:42:08 AM
There hasn't been a decent hurler out of Antrim or Ulster since the 90's, Although I'll not argue with the fact any county in Ireland would have Winker, Dublin more so. They must try stretch their budget that little bit further this year if they wish to lure an Antrim legend from the rolling hills of Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 09:47:48 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 12, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: tam moore 84.. on November 11, 2014, 07:56:30 PM
Its great that we as a county have so many great hurlers to chose from that we can leave the best hurler antrim or indeed ulster has ever seen out.  A man that set a record on all-ireland club hurling day final in croker scoring 3 - 7 and on all ire-land semi final day scored 16 points.  A man that any other county would only be too delighted to have.  All this 'oh were better off with out him'.  What garbage.

That sort of reminded me when I read it of Eoin Kelly Waterford, eventually they got tired of the BS too and he was deemed surplus to requirements and he was a serious talent too. So he is not alone and Antrim are not alone in their approach.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 12, 2014, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 12, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: tam moore 84.. on November 11, 2014, 07:56:30 PM
Its great that we as a county have so many great hurlers to chose from that we can leave the best hurler antrim or indeed ulster has ever seen out.  A man that set a record on all-ireland club hurling day final in croker scoring 3 - 7 and on all ire-land semi final day scored 16 points.  A man that any other county would only be too delighted to have.  All this 'oh were better off with out him'.  What garbage.

That sort of reminded me when I read it of Eoin Kelly Waterford, eventually they got tired of the BS too and he was deemed surplus to requirements and he was a serious talent too. So he is not alone and Antrim are not alone in their approach.

Some players regardless of the their talent cause more discord and acrimony within a team than there worth
Eoin Kelly is a good example of Ger o Grady from tipp
I doubt if the county discussion fourums down there have posters blaming all the managers for the duration of the said players careers
What the LG posters who fights his corner they have to realise is we acknowledge his worth as a player but just don't want him
"You can buy gold to expensive"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:07:32 PM
And some players have more influence on the management than others. Why is that acceptable? In fact, is it acceptable for any current player on the Antrim panel to have any influence on the management?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 12, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:07:32 PM
And some players have more influence on the management than others. Why is that acceptable?

Maybe because the commit to the cause, the managers respects them and values their opinion. I dont know a manager around that doesnt have a couple of go to players that can gauge ideas and theories off.

Think you are reading way too far into that, but I guess that ship has sailed since you have been on about it since this time last year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:23:57 PM
The ship sailed long ago. We all know that. But it was much more than one person's attitude that was at fault for it. The whole thing was a shambles. All we can hope for is that lessons have been learned all around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 12, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:07:32 PM
And some players have more influence on the management than others. Why is that acceptable? In fact, is it acceptable for any current player on the Antrim panel to have any influence on the management?

I think I know the player your talking about, was it the one that helped him with the U/21 squad when no one else would on top of his senior duties. Was it the one that a few months ago told the irish news he  was glad the LG players where back
Is it the player that never lambast other clubs or managers or his county via social media
Is it the player one of the more experienced members of the county squad and the manager values his input (see henry shefflin and brian Cody) because of this
I spare me the nobody will pass LG players the ball gaff to
Didn't see young mc Fadden being ignored in a game
Catch a grip, the sort of sniping has any evidence to back it up.
Could you tell us what county panelist you do respect and why compared to this player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
And fair play to him for that. No question. Back in 2012 however, There were incidents in County training and one match in casement where the ball wasn't being passed to the loughgiel players. It was that which started the whole thing. From what I gather people have been talking  and getting issues sorted out. Fair play to all for that. It seems more optimistic than has been for quite some time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 12, 2014, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
And fair play to him for that. No question. Back in 2012 however, There were incidents in County training and one match in casement where the ball wasn't being passed to the loughgiel players. It was that which started the whole thing. From what I gather people have been talking  and getting issues sorted out. Fair play to all for that. It seems more optimistic than has been for quite some time.

Well if there is dialogue and an attempt at resolving things then why bring it up
As for selective passing I have been to most games and never noticed it but I could offer up a theory
If there is one criticism of the player in question it's he is a bit greedy sometimes meaning there have been instances where a lay off was the better option and he didn't, but it wasn't resticted to players of a certain club. His form has dipped of late but two years ago he was Antrims stand out player and was lined out at any position we where in trouble
Maybe what your saying is accurate but I never seen it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
On another note, it's good to see PJ back at the helm in loughgiel. Also a few familiar faces back from overseas and closer to home rejoining the squad. Should be an interesting club scene next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 12, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
On another note, it's good to see PJ back at the helm in loughgiel. Also a few familiar faces back from overseas and closer to home rejoining the squad. Should be an interesting club scene next year.

It's more interesting than Antrim's inter-county scene again anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 13, 2014, 03:44:51 PM
The self righteous would have you all believe they are fulcrum of their respective clubs and county.  This is one poster who us not to be conned by such devious and self serving imposters.  Nothing to offer other than self gratification and what the can make out it, despite the casualties along the way. Decency, loyalty and bravery not among their finer qualities, the complete opposite in fact. Like twisted Shinners, they play to the gallery and talk a good show. But all of no substance, just claptrap and idol threats.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on November 13, 2014, 03:57:46 PM
Christ it's Wilfred Owen!!!! Poinient In some respects.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
Anyone care to talk about hurling? What's the best county team we can put out for this years league. Forgetting lads that isn't there for whatever reason. Best team from what we know we can choose from. And what's the best achievement this year.  Same as others? Try and stay up? And win at least one championship match? Or is this or is this not the 3rd year of the 3 year plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2014, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
Anyone care to talk about hurling? What's the best county team we can put out for this years league. Forgetting lads that isn't there for whatever reason. Best team from what we know we can choose from. And what's the best achievement this year.  Same as others? Try and stay up? And win at least one championship match? Or is this or is this not the 3rd year of the 3 year plan.

Expect a bit of PR spin if anyone dares question the outcome of that.
In reality it's now or never for Ryan & Antrim since we'll not be waiting on players returning from club duty with Cushendall beaten.
I don't see much new blood coming from Belfast at least. McKernan from Sarsfields is a player I would like to see more of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2014, 05:35:45 PM
Expect a bit of PR spin if anyone dares question the outcome of that.
In reality it's now or never for Ryan & Antrim since we'll not be waiting on players returning from club duty with Cushendall beaten.
I don't see much new blood coming from Belfast at least. McKernan from Sarsfields is a player I would like to see more of.

And what will you define as success btdtgtt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Promotion from division 2 OR a taking a major scalp in the leinster championship. 

That said, I don't expect either - and I wouldn't blame Ryan. I've made the point before that if our team performs well or badly there's not much difference in terms of outcome.
Good or bad preparation = We'll be neither promoted nor relegated from Division2 and after the predictable round robin group it'll be defeat to the first major team we meet.


It's the predictability that makes it not only boring but shows the folly of holding our club scene to ransom and inhibiting it for this annual procession.
Let the clubs play away with their full compliment - the outcome for the county won't be any different!
Except maybe over time the re-energised club season could yield dividends for the county!

Sorry if that was long-winded Skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 07:20:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2014, 06:54:26 PM
Promotion from division 2 OR a taking a major scalp in the leinster championship. 

That said, I don't expect either - and I wouldn't blame Ryan. I've made the point before that if our team performs well or badly there's not much difference in terms of outcome.
Good or bad preparation = We'll be neither promoted nor relegated from Division2 and after the predictable round robin group it'll be defeat to the first major team we meet.


It's the predictability that makes it not only boring but shows the folly of holding our club scene to ransom and inhibiting it for this annual procession.
Let the clubs play away with their full compliment - the outcome for the county won't be any different!
Except maybe over time the re-energised club season could yield dividends for the county!

Sorry if that was long-winded Skull.

Hard to argue with that!!

I reckon staying up in the second flight would be a start. If we get out of the round robin and beat a Leinster team then who knows? Hopefully we could put it up to another good team. We were slightly unlucky last year conceding early goals to Wexford. There really was very little between the sides apart from those crazy opening ten minutes. That Wexford team were also, arguably the surprise package of the championship.

Anyway I'll remain optimistic and positive, even though we will be trolled now by the usual dark clouds who believe it's all about their Club!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Club before county.all day long in my opinion.but that does not for 1 second mean I do not support and want my county to do well in every game. Regardless of who is playing. We really really need to put club hated aside if we're ever to get the best out of our up and coming stars. We've pace and power in the forwards. And IMO some sticky backs to mark anyone. just wish the childish shite would be put to bed.and yes there's more to fault than 1 lad.  But il bet now in years to come it will be regretted!!!!  Our best 15 anyone??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Club before county.all day long in my opinion.but that does not for 1 second mean I do not support and want my county to do well in every game. Regardless of who is playing. We really really need to put club hated aside if we're ever to get the best out of our up and coming stars. We've pace and power in the forwards. And IMO some sticky backs to mark anyone. just wish the childish shite would be put to bed.and yes there's more to fault than 1 lad.  But il bet now in years to come it will be regretted!!!!  Our best 15 anyone??

Chrissy, Graffin, Woody, Odhran, McNaughton, McAuley, McGreevey, Campbell,  McManus, McAfee, Shiels, McCloskey, Clarke, McCaughan, Benny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:00:44 PM
Benny??? Hasn't hurled as year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on November 13, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Club before county.all day long in my opinion.but that does not for 1 second mean I do not support and want my county to do well in every game. Regardless of who is playing. We really really need to put club hated aside if we're ever to get the best out of our up and coming stars. We've pace and power in the forwards. And IMO some sticky backs to mark anyone. just wish the childish shite would be put to bed.and yes there's more to fault than 1 lad.  But il bet now in years to come it will be regretted!!!!  Our best 15 anyone??

Chrissy, Graffin, Woody, Odhran, McNaughton, McAuley, McGreevey, Campbell,  McManus, McAfee, Shiels, McCloskey, Clarke, McCaughan, Benny

More or less agree. Benny in Australia, so PJ O'Connell at 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
I'd go with
Ryan mc Garry
Martin burke graffin woody
Mc manus m auley paddy burke
Tony mc closkey Eoin campbell
Eddie mc closkey shorty carson
Clarke Carl Stewart mc kernan
Then there's another 8/10 lads fighting for there place.  Shane mc Naughton if fully fit and back to form, would give the younger brother another year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
Forgot about pj,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 08:17:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
I'd go with
Ryan mc Garry
Martin burke graffin woody
Mc manus m auley paddy burke
Tony mc closkey Eoin campbell
Eddie mc closkey shorty carson
Clarke Carl Stewart mc kernan
Then there's another 8/10 lads fighting for there place.  Shane mc Naughton if fully fit and back to form, would give the younger brother another year.

Yeah I'm aware of Benny's situation but rumours abound that he'll he home and he is my favourite player. Karl Stewart's best days behind him, Jackson McGreevy is the man. Intensity and ability. Kevin Ryan had him as U21 captain for that reason. He is only a kid and will get better and better.

SG, can't agree on Carson. Think he's poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
There are a lot of better stick men in the county.  I'd have him in my starting 15 for dropping puck outs on top of him. For Clarke pj Eddie shorty to feed of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:31:02 PM
Another young hurler Id like to see more of is mc afee from c dall.puts in a massive shift when played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2014, 08:34:22 PM
Young Elliot from dunloy also.i think a year with the county could bring him on again. For the speed and stick work he has.hasnt been clinical enough for me.had chances against cdall and blared them wide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 08:36:17 PM
Yes SG, can accept that point on dropping ball. Another player I like is the Ballycastle full back. If I'm not mistaken his bake is Douthard. Maybe Bonamargy can shed some light on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on November 13, 2014, 08:41:12 PM
I am guessing you mean James McShane, nickname Dooher?? Yes he has improved a lot this last couple of seasons. First cousin of Cormac Hippy Donnelly. His mum is Hippy Seniors sister
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2014, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on November 13, 2014, 08:41:12 PM
I am guessing you mean James McShane, nickname Dooher?? Yes he has improved a lot this last couple of seasons. First cousin of Cormac Hippy Donnelly. His mum is Hippy Seniors sister

Yes Bonamargy, that's the boy I was talking about. I have been well impressed by him this past season. Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2014, 11:25:57 PM
Chrissy
Martin Burke Neal McAuley Aaron Graffin
Paddy McNaughton Tony McCloskey Jackson McGreevey
        McManus & Shorty
Saul McCaughan Eddie McCloskey Conor Carson
Ciaran Clarke Sean McAfee Daniel McKernan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 13, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
Agree with most of your selections.  But definitely a few Belfast men in there that I think could line out and play at inter-county level or at least add something to the squad after seeing them this year and over the last few.  Some have played at Inter-County level, others have in a limited way.

Rossa - Shannon, McGuinness, McClelland
St Johns - McCrory, McFall, Johnstons
Galls - McGreevy
Sarsfields - McKernan, McKenna
Gorts - McClean

Can't think of anyone from LD, St Pauls or any other Belfast clubs but would be open to criticism on that one. 
Anytime Antrim has been successful (pound for pound, there have been Belfast men in it)  ;D

Indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 14, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 13, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
Agree with most of your selections.  But definitely a few Belfast men in there that I think could line out and play at inter-county level or at least add something to the squad after seeing them this year and over the last few.  Some have played at Inter-County level, others have in a limited way.

Rossa - Shannon, McGuinness, McClelland
St Johns - McCrory, McFall, Johnstons
Galls - McGreevy
Sarsfields - McKernan, McKenna
Gorts - McClean

Can't think of anyone from LD, St Pauls or any other Belfast clubs but would be open to criticism on that one. 
Anytime Antrim has been successful (pound for pound, there have been Belfast men in it)  ;D

Indeed.

Not with that selection though  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 14, 2014, 09:15:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: mickey80 on November 13, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
Agree with most of your selections.  But definitely a few Belfast men in there that I think could line out and play at inter-county level or at least add something to the squad after seeing them this year and over the last few.  Some have played at Inter-County level, others have in a limited way.

Rossa - Shannon, McGuinness, McClelland
St Johns - McCrory, McFall, Johnstons
Galls - McGreevy
Sarsfields - McKernan, McKenna
Gorts - McClean

Can't think of anyone from LD, St Pauls or any other Belfast clubs but would be open to criticism on that one. 
Anytime Antrim has been successful (pound for pound, there have been Belfast men in it)  ;D

Indeed.

Not with that selection though  ???

I can't argue with that either!

Genuinely not winding up here - but would it be fair to say that the Belfast players have been less guilty of bringing club issues to the county set-up? Greater buy-in?
Perhaps a result of not having significant grievances due to championships being generally dcided between the Glensmen - however when Rossa were competitive I dont recall any issues and similarly I dont recall The Johnnies lads being antagonistic with them.
Just a thought, not a slant on anyone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
City boys live among one another. For small places like Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle they are isolated and I can understand the issues that arise. Different way of life. There lies the challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
City boys live among one another. For small places like Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle they are isolated and I can understand the issues that arise. Different way of life. There lies the challenge.

True. But when it comes to the County set-up the city boys get along with those they live with and play against in the city - and also those they don't live with in the country?
I understand your point - but I still ask the question therefore - do the City players generally buy into the county set-up more than Glens players?
Again, before someone takes offence, I'm not trying to get at anyone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
Lol some people on here are very easily offended.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
City boys live among one another. For small places like Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle they are isolated and I can understand the issues that arise. Different way of life. There lies the challenge.

True. But when it comes to the County set-up the city boys get along with those they live with and play against in the city - and also those they don't live with in the country?
I understand your point - but I still ask the question therefore - do the City players generally buy into the county set-up more than Glens players?
Again, before someone takes offence, I'm not trying to get at anyone!

City boys just get blocked ffs!! To me the best committed players are the SW (mainly football) lads and I don't know why but fair fecks to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
City boys live among one another. For small places like Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle they are isolated and I can understand the issues that arise. Different way of life. There lies the challenge.

True. But when it comes to the County set-up the city boys get along with those they live with and play against in the city - and also those they don't live with in the country?
I understand your point - but I still ask the question therefore - do the City players generally buy into the county set-up more than Glens players?
Again, before someone takes offence, I'm not trying to get at anyone!

City boys just get blocked ffs!! To me the best committed players are the SW (mainly football) lads and I don't know why but fair fecks to them

Terrible generalisation MR2!
Does that include the St Galls lads?
Glens lads have had their fair share of rogues!

Aye ok, there's evidence to support it then! ;D
Even blocked the City lads are just so friendly ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
City boys live among one another. For small places like Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendall and Ballycastle they are isolated and I can understand the issues that arise. Different way of life. There lies the challenge.

True. But when it comes to the County set-up the city boys get along with those they live with and play against in the city - and also those they don't live with in the country?
I understand your point - but I still ask the question therefore - do the City players generally buy into the county set-up more than Glens players?
Again, before someone takes offence, I'm not trying to get at anyone!

City boys just get blocked ffs!! To me the best committed players are the SW (mainly football) lads and I don't know why but fair fecks to them

Terrible generalisation MR2!
Does that include the St Galls lads?
Glens lads have had their fair share of rogues!

Aye ok, there's evidence to support it then! ;D
Even blocked the City lads are just so friendly ;D

Stand outside Thompsons any night of the week.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2014, 04:10:01 PM
----- and u might see a few North antrim boys spill out too!

Wouldn't deny the tendency for the coy lads to have the demon drink & I've commented on that before here!
But the glens lads have pubs too!
Sure aren't they even using ours!

Anyway - totally different point to the one I made.
I just asked if city men are quicker (and have been i the past) to put club rivalry aside in the county set up.

I'll leave it before I offend someone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 14, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 14, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
Lol some people on here are very easily offended.
Just would not do to offend the self righteous individuals here Hurling Stick/btdtgtt, tut, tut, tut, shame on you!  Do you not know they believe they are untouchable, infallible and profess to know everybody and everything?  Quick to point fingers in the wrong direction and to castigate others with different opinions. Well, some of us at least have integrity, solid reputations and sound principles and preserve the concept of freedom of expression and speech.  They should run as candidates for the self denial Shinners and the like, they appear to have all the right (yet improper and spurious credentials).  Dont do as we do, do as we say (Aye sure thing).

Off to the Gravediggers to watch the match, good that it is in Paradise. (Up the Celts) or maybe that is not permitted here, possibly cause offence to all the man U supporters?  And we cannot cause offence Hurling Stick - btdtgtt, can we?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on November 15, 2014, 03:21:04 AM
Best Antrim Team:

DD Quinn
Graffin,Matthew Donnelly,Woody
Kevin Molloy,Neal McAuley,Simon McCrory
Neil McManus,Shorty
Eddie McCloskey,Chris McGuinnes, James Black
P.J. O'Connell, Conor McCann, Ciaran Clarke

Panel:
Odrahan McFadden, Tony McCloskey, Eoin Campbell, Jackson McGreevy, Ciaran Johnston, Niall McKenna, James McCauig, Chrissy O'Connell, Michael Armstrong, Barry McFall, Stephen McAfee, Dan McKernan, Paddy Burke, Ryan McCambridge, Michael Bradley, Eoin McAloanan, Tomas McCann, Darren Hamill, Stephen Shannon, Conor Carson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Black would need to fill out a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 15, 2014, 11:00:38 AM
So, any of you great Antrim people going to Ravenhill (sorry, correction - Kingspan Stadium) tonight, in support of the great Anto Finnegan?

I'll be there, me da and grandson in tow.  Dinner booked at Errigle Inn at 16.30, in case you may wish to drop in and 'out' me, as they say, see you then?

Just wish Antrim had many more people like Anto,  brave, decent, reliable, honourable, non self-serving, modest, unassuming and loyal.  Fine qualities in anyones book.  Good luck to you Anto.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the situation with the county minor management?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 17, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the situation with the county minor management?

Usually decided pretty late. And will be whoever throws their hat in the ring along with a promise not to ask for any hurls and buy their own sliotars.  :)

But seriously, there is very rarely ever a strategic approach to "get their man" for county minor teams. Tends to be an after thought. I would hope this could change very quickly as there is the potential in the next few years of a couple of very good minor teams coming through and I would love to see them given the resources to really challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 17, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the situation with the county minor management?

Usually decided pretty late. And will be whoever throws their hat in the ring along with a promise not to ask for any hurls and buy their own sliotars.  :)

But seriously, there is very rarely ever a strategic approach to "get their man" for county minor teams. Tends to be an after thought. I would hope this could change very quickly as there is the potential in the next few years of a couple of very good minor teams coming through and I would love to see them given the resources to really challenge.

Had heard a few rumours about the current management and whether or not they were following through. Nothing more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 18, 2014, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 17, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the situation with the county minor management?

Usually decided pretty late. And will be whoever throws their hat in the ring along with a promise not to ask for any hurls and buy their own sliotars.  :)

But seriously, there is very rarely ever a strategic approach to "get their man" for county minor teams. Tends to be an after thought. I would hope this could change very quickly as there is the potential in the next few years of a couple of very good minor teams coming through and I would love to see them given the resources to really challenge.

Had heard a few rumours about the current management and whether or not they were following through. Nothing more.
So who would be on the wish list?  Last seasons appointments were virewed quite positively at the outset but the commitment from many of the squad was still poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 18, 2014, 08:42:39 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 18, 2014, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 17, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 17, 2014, 06:30:04 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the situation with the county minor management?

Usually decided pretty late. And will be whoever throws their hat in the ring along with a promise not to ask for any hurls and buy their own sliotars.  :)

But seriously, there is very rarely ever a strategic approach to "get their man" for county minor teams. Tends to be an after thought. I would hope this could change very quickly as there is the potential in the next few years of a couple of very good minor teams coming through and I would love to see them given the resources to really challenge.

Had heard a few rumours about the current management and whether or not they were following through. Nothing more.
So who would be on the wish list?  Last seasons appointments were virewed quite positively at the outset but the commitment from many of the squad was still poor.

Only a suggestion, but maybe someone who has had success at underage levels or school level hurling, won't name any names but a few antrim schools have done well in last 10 years and a few clubs have also churned out well drilled minor teams. As I say only a suggestion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2014, 09:14:25 AM
So is Humpy not taking the minors again in the coming year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on November 18, 2014, 09:49:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2014, 09:14:25 AM
So is Humpy not taking the minors again in the coming year?

Would be a shame not to have the management sorted out quickly (and supported properly). Saw that the Antrim Schools team (which, presumably, contains the bulk of next year's minors) had a big win over North Dublin Schools last week in the Leinster A schools competition. While promising in itself, would be terrible waste if structures not in place to take advantage of the good work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 18, 2014, 06:24:54 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on November 18, 2014, 09:49:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2014, 09:14:25 AM
So is Humpy not taking the minors again in the coming year?

Would be a shame not to have the management sorted out quickly (and supported properly). Saw that the Antrim Schools team (which, presumably, contains the bulk of next year's minors) had a big win over North Dublin Schools last week in the Leinster A schools competition. While promising in itself, would be terrible waste if structures not in place to take advantage of the good work.
I'm sure the schools project is part of the plan but its hard to see where the budget will come from to run it on a par with other counties. If some players and clubs see it run on a shoestring then they wont give it the commitment needed. Early days yet though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on November 20, 2014, 07:26:47 PM
Some of you Cyber Bullies/Keyboard warriors should put your names forward for the CB.  Some of you would have us believe you have the Panacea to solve all our problems?

Dont think so, a more spineless, gutless, tactless, two faced, self serving, insidious and insignificant bunch, I have ever had the misfortune to listen to.  Unlike me, an amiable, open, tactful, brave, honest, trustworthy and reliable individual, I just do not know why I listen to such vitriolic diatribe.  Absolutely nothing to offer to anyone.  So, so sad.

On that note, I am taking my leave of my own volition. Such negativity and apathy, you boys should get out more.  If not the Rock, Bee Hive, Biddy Duffys, the Gravediggers or O'Donnells are more salubrious alternatives.  The Errigle Inn on a Saturday at 16.30 is not bad either for a steak dinner.  (I was there, were you??)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 24, 2014, 07:43:53 PM
I'd like to wish young Seaghan Shannon a full and Speedy recovery from an horrific injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on November 24, 2014, 09:52:26 PM
Aye, heard the game was abandoned. What sort of injury was it?

I wish the young lad all the best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 25, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: Apparently so on November 24, 2014, 09:52:26 PM
Aye, heard the game was abandoned. What sort of injury was it?

I wish the young lad all the best
I gather from the rossa Twitter feed that he sustained a perforated bowel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2014, 03:47:45 PM
Believe we're looking for a new Antrim Minor hurling manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 25, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
Is there any truth in the ref played on for 10 mins while the young fella got treated on the field?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 25, 2014, 05:10:53 PM
Is there any truth in the ref played on for 10 mins while the young fella got treated on the field?

Absolutely Not no truth what so ever, the cub was subsituted left the field himself unknown to his mentors and god help him collapsed in the Car park, some of us in the crowd just caught him exiting the field while the game was being played. Wishing young Shannon a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 25, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. Had read that the game wasn't even stopped and found it very odd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on November 25, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
In relation to the above incident
There are some truths in what is being said. The whole ethos and ethics of the GAA talks about the "Respect for and from all participants ON AND AROUND the field " and the GAA's commitment to the "PROTECTION AND WELFARE OF PLAYERS".  All of this was sadly missing from Sundays match which only lasted 17 mins and the events of what happened after were nothing short of callous and inhuman.  As a GAA man for many years this left a bad taste in my mouth to see that the Officials both on the pitch and those concerned with the location it was being played in had only interest in whether or not the game was going to continue and no concern given as to the well being of the young lad that lay for almost 40 mins at the side of pitch after collapsing and had to be hospitalized with a very serious injury. The indifference to the suffering of the young lad, his family and his team members who were also distraught was nothing short of embarrassing on the part of all these people concerned. not once did any of these officials enquire as to the lads condition.  Also the absence of St John's ambulance or the equivalent at a tournament like that is just unbelievable. If this is what has become of our GAA family god help the young ones coming through


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 26, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
I haven't posted on this becasue my information is less than 2nd hand but it's no surprise the fall-out has started.
I've a nephew hurlied with young Shannon at school so here goes;

- The tackle which caused the injury was not being claimed as dirty, tough not dirty.
- The players was down injured, and the Ref (I won't name?) refused to allow the Rossa medic on to treat him despite attempts.
- The player was then subbed - and has since had surgery to repair a punctured bowel.
- Rossa then took their team off the field, without the permission of the referee.

I have no idea of the medical assistance available at the ground.
I'm seeing two main issues here - the referre dening an injured minor treatment & Rossa withdrawing their team. It will be interesting to see how it plays out - overall however it's not an incident which GAA officialdom are covered in glory.

If any of this is wrong don;t shoot the messenger it's what was relayed to me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on November 26, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
From what I could see the player did get treatment. In fact he played on and I think ( I could be wrong ) got himself booked for a late tackle on a Slaughtniel player. I don't think anyone in the ground be it officials, mentors or supporters thought that he was seriously injured when he was subbed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on November 26, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
From what I could see the player did get treatment. In fact he played on and I think ( I could be wrong ) got himself booked for a late tackle on a Slaughtniel player. I don't think anyone in the ground be it officials, mentors or supporters thought that he was seriously injured when he was subbed.

Why post then everyones going to make this about the Ref the usual story, I was there and seen it all could go into specifics about all the fringe behaviour etc but some is understandable considering the situation.  No First Aid no Ambulance that should be the first and only concern at this stage...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 26, 2014, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on November 26, 2014, 01:18:01 PM
From what I could see the player did get treatment. In fact he played on and I think ( I could be wrong ) got himself booked for a late tackle on a Slaughtniel player. I don't think anyone in the ground be it officials, mentors or supporters thought that he was seriously injured when he was subbed.

Why post then everyones going to make this about the Ref the usual story, I was there and seen it all could go into specifics about all the fringe behaviour etc but some is understandable considering the situation.  No First Aid no Ambulance that should be the first and only concern at this stage...

If that was directed at me I made it clear I hadn't posted and was only doing so now with infornation I had since others had asked. If we only posted definitive facts and the full story from all sides this would be a quiet board. I am not aware that any info I posted was incorrect - and u haven't been able to say any of it was incorrect either for that matter. I qualified my posted - and I'm well aware that like every version of events - there's always another side. So spare me the pontificating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2014, 09:00:15 PM
Ok btdtgtt to answer you question the majority of it is incorrect but then I had the advantage of being there,  you where spot on with the tackle and substitution,  yea but again like everyone else the ref becomes the issue and you felt the need to state that but not name Owen Elliott for anyone knows him would know that his normal approach to all games is by the book but a lot of common sense etc etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 26, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 26, 2014, 09:00:15 PM
Ok btdtgtt to answer you question the majority of it is incorrect but then I had the advantage of being there,  you where spot on with the tackle and substitution,  yea but again like everyone else the ref becomes the issue and you felt the need to state that but not name Owen Elliott for anyone knows him would know that his normal approach to all games is by the book but a lot of common sense etc etc.

So tell me this:
- what in my original post is not accurate? Nothing!
- how have I made the ref the issue?
Read the post again - I have stated I couldn't say my info was definitive and I have said nothing against the ref that's in dispute.
Get over yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: christyring on November 26, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 25, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
Absolutely Not no truth what so ever, the cub was subsituted left the field himself unknown to his mentors and god help him collapsed in the Car park, some of us in the crowd just caught him exiting the field while the game was being played. Wishing young Shannon a speedy recovery.

Nonsense !! This is how I observed things from directly behind the Rossa dugout.

The Rossa mentors were fully aware that their player had been injured from seconds after the throw in. When hit across the abdomen all their mentors and the entire bench cried out for a free. This call was ignored by the ref. The ref allowed the game to continue despite the fact that it was apparent to all that Seaghan was hurt.

It took Seaghan 4 mins to get up, at this stage he indicated that he'd try & 'run it off'. He was sent up to corner forward & his father(the team manager) followed him up the line to ensure he felt ok. On his way to corner he met one of slaughtneil's defenders who was emerging from defence, Seaghan hit him a shoulder & put him over the line. He was given a yellow card for this.

After this Slaughtneil enjoyed a series of frees& Rossa had a 65. At the 10 min stage he indicated that he was getting worse & would have to come off. A sub was sent on & he made his way to the dugout. Upon reaching the dugout his condition was so bad that the mentors sent for Rossa's senior hurling manager to transport him immediately to the hospital. The senior manager could be seen by all to rush around & help Seaghan up the line to behind the goal. When passing through the gate his condition deteriorated further and he collapsed.

This happened in full view of the Rossa full back line & goal keeper(play was taking place at the other end of the field).

The Rossa players who had noticed became very upset, news spread quickly throughout the field as calls for a doctor/medic, people crying rang out. The Rossa mentors called to the ref to stop the game as there was a serious situation developing. These calls were ignored, despite repeated efforts to direct the officials attention to the situation. I could see at least 3 of them calling the ref & linesman.

We could go further into the story but the ref's & other officials' attitude to the injured young lad was truly shocking. They showed no concern for the welfare of the minor & worse still behaved in a confrontational manner to people who were dealing with a very worrying situation.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: christyring on November 26, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 26, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
I haven't posted on this becasue my information is less than 2nd hand but it's no surprise the fall-out has started.
I've a nephew hurlied with young Shannon at school so here goes;

1 - The tackle which caused the injury was not being claimed as dirty, tough not dirty.
2 - The players was down injured, and the Ref (I won't name?) refused to allow the Rossa medic on to treat him despite attempts.
3 - The player was then subbed - and has since had surgery to repair a punctured bowel.
4 - Rossa then took their team off the field, without the permission of the referee.

I have no idea of the medical assistance available at the ground.
I'm seeing two main issues here - the referre dening an injured minor treatment & Rossa withdrawing their team. It will be interesting to see how it plays out - overall however it's not an incident which GAA officialdom are covered in glory.

If any of this is wrong don;t shoot the messenger it's what was relayed to me!


You aren't far off the mark here!

1 I'd agree - hard tackle, could happen 99/100 & result in winding, sore bruising max. It was however a foul.

2.  This is true, he actually made a point of instructing the linesman that Rossa's mentors were to be kept off the pitch. The young lad was left like a piece of meat, even when Rossa's first effort went wide the ref nstructed the Slaughtneil keeper to hit the poc out.

3. He was subbed after communicating to the line that he was getting worse, when he got close to dugout there seemed to be some clamber for phones, help etc I've no idea what people noticed as the dugout obscured my view but there was a panic and as I said help was sent for.

4. I've covered this in my other post.


Main issues was ref's attitude at the outset to the injury & worse still his attitude when it was obvious there was something serious happening.

Second issue the lack of medical assistance at the ground!

Now I'm not familiar with this forum, my attention was drawn to it today by a work mate. Don't usually post on these things but the truth needs to be out there before wagons are circled & half truths & rumors develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
Guys I think just a bit of balance needs to be found here. Isnt the benefit of hindsight great.

a) In 99% of occasions the referee playing on keeps the game moving. He must have thought he just needed to recover from a winding (and in 99.9% of the time he'd be right)  and didnt think it worthwhile to stop the game. That works for me in all the occasions I have seen it used. Although I can't for the life of me understand him being down for 4 mins and the game going on without the referee stopping the game or rossa mentors going over to him. Doesn't make sense.

b) Lambasting the lack of medical assistance at this game whilst ignoring the fact that the vast majority of games are played in similar circumstances isn't a very considered opinion IMO. No one can fore see a sporting injury, so whats your solution that will give all players at all age groups and all leagues proper medical expertise at their game?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Raven on November 27, 2014, 08:31:27 AM
What happen the game was it finished or is it to be replayed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 27, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
Guys I think just a bit of balance needs to be found here. Isnt the benefit of hindsight great.

a) In 99% of occasions the referee playing on keeps the game moving. He must have thought he just needed to recover from a winding (and in 99.9% of the time he'd be right)  and didnt think it worthwhile to stop the game. That works for me in all the occasions I have seen it used. Although I can't for the life of me understand him being down for 4 mins and the game going on without the referee stopping the game or rossa mentors going over to him. Doesn't make sense.

b) Lambasting the lack of medical assistance at this game whilst ignoring the fact that the vast majority of games are played in similar circumstances isn't a very considered opinion IMO. No one can fore see a sporting injury, so whats your solution that will give all players at all age groups and all leagues proper medical expertise at their game?

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 27, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
He started it first, sneil man pulled and got ball and shoulder at sane time, no free, ref did not stop anyone from coming into the field nor instruct to stop them, he actually waved to get someone on, he was attended to for less 1 min, no rossa medics, lad walked on his own to.changing room, collie or any rossa mentors never told or showed who was down ref just got abuse from him,to ref was blocked to see how kid was by verbal abuse, ref did not see man down in car park. Linesman told him while trying to pull collie away from ref. Ref was not allowed to find anything out due to the foul and abusive language being spat into his face. The kid injured himself in the second tackle not the first. 2nd tackle was a shoulder to the chest late by about 4 days and he then was bent over and ref was seen pointing to the line to sort but they didn't. No rule to stop game for an injury outside the field of play. kids were laughing as they were being pulled off by collie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 27, 2014, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 27, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
He started it first, sneil man pulled and got ball and shoulder at sane time, no free, ref did not stop anyone from coming into the field nor instruct to stop them, he actually waved to get someone on, he was attended to for less 1 min, no rossa medics, lad walked on his own to.changing room, collie or any rossa mentors never told or showed who was down ref just got abuse from him,to ref was blocked to see how kid was by verbal abuse, ref did not see man down in car park. Linesman told him while trying to pull collie away from ref. Ref was not allowed to find anything out due to the foul and abusive language being spat into his face. The kid injured himself in the second tackle not the first. 2nd tackle was a shoulder to the chest late by about 4 days and he then was bent over and ref was seen pointing to the line to sort but they didn't. No rule to stop game for an injury outside the field of play. kids were laughing as they were being pulled off by collie

and the ref still did nothing?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 27, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
He started it first, sneil man pulled and got ball and shoulder at sane time, no free, ref did not stop anyone from coming into the field nor instruct to stop them, he actually waved to get someone on, he was attended to for less 1 min, no rossa medics, lad walked on his own to.changing room, collie or any rossa mentors never told or showed who was down ref just got abuse from him,to ref was blocked to see how kid was by verbal abuse, ref did not see man down in car park. Linesman told him while trying to pull collie away from ref. Ref was not allowed to find anything out due to the foul and abusive language being spat into his face. The kid injured himself in the second tackle not the first. 2nd tackle was a shoulder to the chest late by about 4 days and he then was bent over and ref was seen pointing to the line to sort but they didn't. No rule to stop game for an injury outside the field of play. kids were laughing as they were being pulled off by collie

No rule maybe, but the welfare of the child must come first as outlined by the GAA in their child protection policy for children and young adults. with the way your describing the barriers which PREVENTED the Ref intervening anyone would think you were the Ref or at least able to read his mind.

Im also wondering how you can be blocked to see how the kid was by verbal abuse? I do understand how some mentors can be over the top but if the Ref really wanted to find out how the lad was surely this verbal abuse could not have stopped him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
No rule maybe, but the welfare of the child must come first as outlined by the GAA in their child protection policy for children and young adults. with the way your describing the barriers which PREVENTED the Ref intervening anyone would think you were the Ref or at least able to read his mind.

Im also wondering how you can be blocked to see how the kid was by verbal abuse? I do understand how some mentors can be over the top but if the Ref really wanted to find out how the lad was surely this verbal abuse could not have stopped him.

So you're totally content with the way the Rossa mentors/first aiders/sideline put the welfare of the young lad first? I don't understand why the referee is being hung out. Can't help but think he's the easy target for people who've their heads in the sand. Sounds to me that the Rossa sideline need to look in the mirror as well if lessons are to be learn't or have they really nothing to be ashamed of in terms of their behavior during the whole incident?

Some very one sided suit your own perspectives being posted here.

CAVEAT: I wasn't there so I'm only picking up on whats being reported here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Raven on November 27, 2014, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
No rule maybe, but the welfare of the child must come first as outlined by the GAA in their child protection policy for children and young adults. with the way your describing the barriers which PREVENTED the Ref intervening anyone would think you were the Ref or at least able to read his mind.

Im also wondering how you can be blocked to see how the kid was by verbal abuse? I do understand how some mentors can be over the top but if the Ref really wanted to find out how the lad was surely this verbal abuse could not have stopped him.

So you're totally content with the way the Rossa mentors/first aiders/sideline put the welfare of the young lad first? I don't understand why the referee is being hung out. Can't help but think he's the easy target for people who've their heads in the sand. Sounds to me that the Rossa sideline need to look in the mirror as well if lessons are to be learn't or have they really nothing to be ashamed of in terms of their behavior during the whole incident?

Some very one sided suit your own perspectives being posted here.

CAVEAT: I wasn't there so I'm only picking up on whats being reported here

What was the outcome of the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 27, 2014, 06:38:27 PM
Sounds like MIBAG & OE are one in the same!

Is it not very simple?

BOTH the referee AND the rossa sideline have questions/issues to answer for here?

Trying to blame each and the other - does not absolve either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 27, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
Fur fux sake lads, ye just cant be blaming the referee (OE) in such circumstances ::).  A fine, upstanding and loyal servant such as OE, certainly did not deserve such a barrage of abuse.   Firstly, is he a qualified, trained and experienced clinician and in a position to make a call on a serious internal injury, I think not!  Surely the team mentors and medical staff were better placed to assess the extent of the injury to the poor lad.  The saving grace here, the lad is on the mend and thankfully.

CM certainly deserves a bollicking for his antics with the Ref, the Ref did not deserve such a tirade of abuse regardless of the circumstances.

Just to deflect a tad, I see the bald headed learned one from the Dall is casting on us all, his opinion and wisdom on all things related to Kilkenny hurling retirements, really does beggar belief! I think I should just stick to the Ballymena dailys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on November 27, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
Really good that the young lad apparently is on the mend. Hope he gets well soon. I wasn't at the match but I think Skull talks a lot on sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 28, 2014, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 27, 2014, 06:38:27 PM
Sounds like MIBAG & OE are one in the same!

Is it not very simple?

BOTH the referee AND the rossa sideline have questions/issues to answer for here?

Trying to blame each and the other - does not absolve either!

What has the Referee to answer for?  You jump on here with a story from a man who knew a man who knew a man etc etc, tell us? As Skull says its always the Ref that's the easy target. Being at the game and hearing the constant verbal attack at me oops sorry Owen Elliott from the very first ball, one thing was obvious Collie doesn't like Owen Elliott, the abuse and language was completely unacceptable in any arena. Young Shannon was unfortunate and thank god he is on the mend. So again what has Owen Elliott got to answer for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 28, 2014, 07:54:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
No rule maybe, but the welfare of the child must come first as outlined by the GAA in their child protection policy for children and young adults. with the way your describing the barriers which PREVENTED the Ref intervening anyone would think you were the Ref or at least able to read his mind.

Im also wondering how you can be blocked to see how the kid was by verbal abuse? I do understand how some mentors can be over the top but if the Ref really wanted to find out how the lad was surely this verbal abuse could not have stopped him.

So you're totally content with the way the Rossa mentors/first aiders/sideline put the welfare of the young lad first? I don't understand why the referee is being hung out. Can't help but think he's the easy target for people who've their heads in the sand. Sounds to me that the Rossa sideline need to look in the mirror as well if lessons are to be learn't or have they really nothing to be ashamed of in terms of their behavior during the whole incident?

Some very one sided suit your own perspectives being posted here.

CAVEAT: I wasn't there so I'm only picking up on whats being reported here

I don't think I blamed the ref once during my post, but rather questioned MIBAG on his statement that the ref was prevented at all turns from dealing with the matter. And my mention of child welfare being the main priority concerns all adults involved coaches, mentors, parents and officials inc the ref, I didn't say it was the refs job, it's for all adults to prioritise.

The last statement was.more around the walking off the pitch from Rossa. As I think things should be put into perspective when incidents such as this take place. It was mentioned that the ref awarded the game to slaughneil when rossa didn't return to the field. Which while I feel it was unfair, I also feel Rossa did the right thing while something so serious was developing concerning one of their players off the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on November 28, 2014, 08:47:45 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 28, 2014, 07:54:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 27, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 27, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
No rule maybe, but the welfare of the child must come first as outlined by the GAA in their child protection policy for children and young adults. with the way your describing the barriers which PREVENTED the Ref intervening anyone would think you were the Ref or at least able to read his mind.

Im also wondering how you can be blocked to see how the kid was by verbal abuse? I do understand how some mentors can be over the top but if the Ref really wanted to find out how the lad was surely this verbal abuse could not have stopped him.

So you're totally content with the way the Rossa mentors/first aiders/sideline put the welfare of the young lad first? I don't understand why the referee is being hung out. Can't help but think he's the easy target for people who've their heads in the sand. Sounds to me that the Rossa sideline need to look in the mirror as well if lessons are to be learn't or have they really nothing to be ashamed of in terms of their behavior during the whole incident?

Some very one sided suit your own perspectives being posted here.

CAVEAT: I wasn't there so I'm only picking up on whats being reported here

I don't think I blamed the ref once during my post, but rather questioned MIBAG on his statement that the ref was prevented at all turns from dealing with the matter. And my mention of child welfare being the main priority concerns all adults involved coaches, mentors, parents and officials inc the ref, I didn't say it was the refs job, it's for all adults to prioritise.

The last statement was.more around the walking off the pitch from Rossa. As I think things should be put into perspective when incidents such as this take place. It was mentioned that the ref awarded the game to slaughneil when rossa didn't return to the field. Which while I feel it was unfair, I also feel Rossa did the right thing while something so serious was developing concerning one of their players off the field.

The Referee in this case wouldn't have the power to award the game to anyone. It is organised by Ballinascreen and sanctioned by Ulster Council. They would decide Rossa's fate not the Referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on November 28, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
I see it is not only on this topic that MIBAG is airing his non truths and volunteering other peoples' names i.e. Owen Elliott and Collie and Shannon from Rossa, whilst he remains under his pseudo name.  Not very mature or professional.  One would think that the MIBAG may well be a Referee who HASS a gripe.  ONE DOES PROTEST A LITTLE TOO MUCH  obviously this is all IN MY OPINION which is what this forum is all about  (isn't it) ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 28, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on November 28, 2014, 06:30:09 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 27, 2014, 06:38:27 PM
Sounds like MIBAG & OE are one in the same!

Is it not very simple?

BOTH the referee AND the rossa sideline have questions/issues to answer for here?

Trying to blame each and the other - does not absolve either!

What has the Referee to answer for?  You jump on here with a story from a man who knew a man who knew a man etc etc, tell us? As Skull says its always the Ref that's the easy target. Being at the game and hearing the constant verbal attack at me oops sorry Owen Elliott from the very first ball, one thing was obvious Collie doesn't like Owen Elliott, the abuse and language was completely unacceptable in any arena. Young Shannon was unfortunate and thank god he is on the mend. So again what has Owen Elliott got to answer for?


He should have allowed the medics on to look at the players quicker than he did.
The fact that the behaviour of the Rossa sideline is no better - does not negate the fact that OE refused them access to an injured player.
Persoanlly I feel that if Rossa refused to take the field - depsite the referree not offically ending the game - then they should forfeit the match.
If the Rossa sideline behaved in an unacceptable manne then they should be sanctioned.
But none of this changes the fact that the ref refused to allow attention on to an injured players for too long. The fact he didnt know the extent of the injury is irrelevant.
We're all human - and the ref made a mistake here. It was a wrong judgement call.
The fact that the Rossa sideleine seem to have behaved badly - doesnt change that.
So yes - OE did make a mistake.
Unbelievable, Shock, horror, dismay - a ref made a mistake. The real news will be if a ref ever admits one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2014, 12:59:40 PM
We should be very proud the strong culture we have here ...... i.e. the blame culture  :-\

Why not come straight out and say it. If the lad didn't recover from his injury, it wouldn't have been the referees fault.

I'm embarrassed reading this p!sh to be honest. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on November 29, 2014, 06:52:30 AM
They joke about refs and specsavers, did you read the post FFS, OE immediately waved and indicated to the Rossa line to attend the cub, their  lack of action is not his responsibility.  Again I was there and under rule he did everthing by the book so No on this occasion dealing with this specific incident there was no mistakes, unlike yours in this occasion coming on and spouting about a game that you have been told of 3rd hand. And yes all Refs make mistakes in every game as do players as do managers and supporters. ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 29, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
MIBAG get a grip ur posts are hilariously partisan.
Clear ur pushing ur vested interested.  ;)
One protests 2 much and all that.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on November 29, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
MIBAG get a grip ur posts are hilariously partisan.
Clear ur pushing ur vested interested.  ;)
One protests 2 much and all that.  :)
Sure we all have our own vested interests fur fux sake, whats new?  Are we all not partisan, are you not partisan, am I not partisan, catch a grip. A young lad got badly hurt, was that the Refs fault?  We are all culpable, even his own team mentors. Now lets keep some balance here and keep thing sin perspective, the good thing is young Shannon is on the mend and no one died.  He'll be fit and well to play another day. End of - Fin. 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 29, 2014, 05:00:57 PM
I am baffled as to why anyone would blame the referee on the lad gettin injured?
I certainly didn't.
Read the posts - I said if he denied access to the pitch to medics then he was wrong to do so.
I also said it seemed the rossa sideline was out of order.
The clamour to claim this as ref bashing is curious.
Enough already. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on December 01, 2014, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 29, 2014, 05:00:57 PM
I am baffled as to why anyone would blame the referee on the lad gettin injured?
I certainly didn't.
Read the posts - I said if he denied access to the pitch to medics then he was wrong to do so.
I also said it seemed the rossa sideline was out of order.
The clamour to claim this as ref bashing is curious.
Enough already.
You want the lend of a spade or is the hole big enough yet??  :D :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2014, 08:29:03 PM
I'm good thanks Sham - every post is as it is.
Haven't heard a word to the contrary on this board or anywhere else.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
my end of season review.

from our own teams view it was disappointing. the style change of hurling that has been implimented has caused a few teething problems and we lost games we shouldnt have. injuries played their part and lost players during the season we could ill afford to lose. with the same management in place for next season and the team comfortable with their approach it should show improvement, i hope.

under age wise we are looking good. the U8-10's are a good bunch, the 12's have some good talent. the U14's were unreal. we lost 1 game all season and that was the All Ireland Feile final sadly. exciting talent there! the U16's beat all bar that brilliant St Johns team and the minors are steadily improving.it bodes well for the clubs future.

outside of ourselves i thought this year was a very poor championship for hurling. it was as dull as ive seen in a long time. were cushendall the best of a poor bunch? probably when you seen their showing in Ulster. Lgiel looked glad of the break, ballycastle were, well just ballycastle and promised much but never showed. st johns got into a complete mess in camp and never looked like the team from the start of the season.

a bright spark is Cloney coming in Div 1 hurling. it will be interesting to see how they cope at Div in both hurling and football in 2015 but it should be good to play them for the first time at senior level.

hopes for 2015?

ditch the current league format.
a better championship
antrim to fair better in the NHL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2014, 12:01:19 PM
Just seen this. one of the motions for the country convention

Motion 3
That the Senior and Senior reserve hurling leagues be a 2 way league in 2015
Ruairi Og

hilarious. they wanted the set up we had this year and were the first to not stick to it by cancelling games due to not having their county players!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 03, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 03, 2014, 12:36:56 PM
10 team 12 team 8 team 4 team league it will not matter until the teams take the league with some seriousness.

Some clubs have to be commended and will play their games county men or not some just seem to want to make life awkward.

How hard is it to sit down with the planner at the start of the year, the competitions are fixed every year. Plan the county season with the county manager, then plan the club season with the clubs.

Have an agreement in place with said clubs that Senior games go ahead on the selected dates, no exceptions for county training (season already agreed with county management team) no exceptions for u21/minors/ schools games. Any question on pitch inspections are down to the referee on the day of the game.

In the event of a club function/ wedding (not stag) the club in question can contact the other club directly for a re-fixture to suit both clubs within a week of the original, if agreement cant be reached then the game goes ahead.

There is only one exception that should be a death within the team/ club. That is it, other wise games are expected to be played. First team to flaunt the agreed upon rules for the league forfeits their place in that years championship. If a club signs up at the start of the year to stick by those rules then there can be no one else to blame other than the club itself if they don't stand over them.

It is either this or we forget about playing the league and just go straight to championship in August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 03, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 03, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.
The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 03, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.
The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.

Like we did. only for beating sarsfields at home and st johns losing one of their last 2 games before the split we would of been in the bottom half.

2 way league, 8 or 10 teams. simple. games must be played regardless of what your county players are doing. each club has more players in the panel over different years which means not one team suffers each year. at one stage we had 9 players on the panel yet still remained sucessfull at club level.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2014, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2014, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2014, 02:16:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 03, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Dont know the matches your talking about DR, but of course it something yous have never done before, particularly back when yous had 10+ players unavailable between Senior, U21 & Minors.

As for the motion, did C'dall propose the current league last year (genuine question-cant mind)

If they did are people / clubs not allowed to change their mind if things dont work out.

Of all the clubs who thought last years league was crap how many of them have put in a motion to change it?

As for this years championship, it was a very poor one, it was one we didnt expect to win in the slightest but will gladly take it. Apart from the Loughiel game we where poor in every match but IMHO we never looked like losing any of them.

yeah they proposed the current format.

the idea was that the county men would be away with Antrim and the clubs could continue to play games without the county lads.

we did that. we didn't have shorty for quite a few games during the season whereas some clubs decided they couldn't do without theirs and called games off. also we played ballycran away with a squad of 19 having to cancel the reserve game and got hammered. we didn't cancel the match even though other teams would have.

that league set up was total nonsense anyway. all our away games at the first point was cushendall, loughgiel, st johns, ballycastle, portaferry. the clubs need to make money with the gates and had we not got into the top half of the league we wouldnt of had any of those bigger gates. makes no sense at all.
The 8 team league was in place a few years ago. It was changed to a two way 10 team league by a Committee formed by the county (think Jim Nelson was head of this committee) to look at Hurling in Antrim.
C'Dall opposed this 10 team league. The current format was proposed as C'Dall knew they were never gonna be able to a complete 18 matches due to the round robin games Antrim would play in. There was no suggestion in the proposal that this would be without county players. It was only proposed as a stop gap with a possible view to returning to an 8 team league

You criticised C'Dall for not playing matches without county players. If they did they would probably struggle to get in the top 5.

Like we did. only for beating sarsfields at home and st johns losing one of their last 2 games before the split we would of been in the bottom half.

2 way league, 8 or 10 teams. simple. games must be played regardless of what your county players are doing. each club has more players in the panel over different years which means not one team suffers each year. at one stage we had 9 players on the panel yet still remained sucessfull at club level.
You also stated clubs depend on gates to survive, if clubs don't have county players for matches, people won't go to matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 03, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
End of season review for Belfast hurling teams.

St Galls had the best season of all the Belfast teams, getting to the county final and securing Division one hurling status.  St Johns seemed to have a good start to the season with some decent results but then fell away before championship. How many would St Johns have on the county squad (u21)? I feel not having access to a full squad hinders them greatly.

Unfortunately Sarsfields were relegated after being back up in Division one, however, making a county semi final shows overall that there was progress made, and promotion from division 2 next year is a must to keep their momentum going. Rossa done all that was expected of them this season and not much more, but they have a great chance of doing well in the Intermediate All Ireland.

Gort Na Mona and St Pauls both secured their places in division two and over the next few years need to rebuild their underage teams, move up the league in Division two and then look towards promotion.

Lamh Dhearg just missed out on promotion from division three and took a heavy beating in the championship, this would be classed as a poor year and they need to work on getting their strongest team out on the pitch as much as possible to make it back to division two. St Teresas have some potential but had a great year in the football and this must have effected their hurling fortunes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 03, 2014, 11:14:15 PM
I just read through all the motions for convention on the county website. 2 separate motions, one by CCC and one by Ruairi Óg asking to revert back to 8 team leagues. CCC want 8 teams in all 4 divisions and have it in place at the end of 2015 season, (doesn't say how they are going to do this???) Ruairi Óg motion has 2 teams relegated from div 1 and only 1 team promoted from div 2 for the next two seasons, which would mean a 8 team league would be achieved by the start of 2017 season and then have two up/two down from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2014, 11:36:23 PM
While it is quite funny that Cushendall change their minds like underwear on how they want the leagues played (we were led to believe it's  loughgiel who think they run the place!) but the reality is that the leagues will continue to be structured however the big North antrim teams so desire.
They don't care how this affects other teams or lower leagues or the county as a whole - I suppose why should they do anything other than look after themselves?!
Their choice of structure will be passed via their own voting bloc and those if clubs who don't care enough to disagree.

Is this this biggest issue - not by a long shot!

Personally the structures choices on offer don't bother me so much. I've said before leagues should effect championship seeding to enhance the integrity of bith competitions tho!

Whatever the structure is - the problems as always been, and will remain - the availability of players.
Allow clubs to have their full compliment - all the time & without question - and watch as our leagues garner more interest.
I really wish all these structural motions were replaced by one with this aim.

But then clubs are just an inconvenience - it's all about the 1% that play county.

We might even see an upturn for the county side - but it sure won't do them any harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on December 04, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Tbh I though the main problem with the league this year stemmed from the championship draws. If the four big teams had not been meeting in championship in the first round I think we would have seen a much better top section of the league. Due to them knowing they were meeting in the first round no team really went for it thus I feel league lost the competitiveness and then as a result championship was dead as league games werent up to the usual tempo. Seeded championship draw and current league format is the way forward I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on December 04, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Tbh I though the main problem with the league this year stemmed from the championship draws. If the four big teams had not been meeting in championship in the first round I think we would have seen a much better top section of the league. Due to them knowing they were meeting in the first round no team really went for it thus I feel league lost the competitiveness and then as a result championship was dead as league games werent up to the usual tempo. Seeded championship draw and current league format is the way forward I think

TBH you're full of shit...... Cant just keep changing the leagues cause it doesn't suit the big boys or because championship didn't turn out like it should, pure bullshit. Teams/players/management shouldn't go out and play that way (don't think they did) cause the draw was bad. Loughgiel walked the past 4 championships and not one complaint big two not in final, we have ones complaining! The football leagues have stayed the same for past twenty years and no complaints. Difference between top two teams and rest  would be greater than the hurling teams.

Let it go as it is, teams should be playing their level best in every game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 04, 2014, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on December 04, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Tbh I though the main problem with the league this year stemmed from the championship draws. If the four big teams had not been meeting in championship in the first round I think we would have seen a much better top section of the league. Due to them knowing they were meeting in the first round no team really went for it thus I feel league lost the competitiveness and then as a result championship was dead as league games werent up to the usual tempo. Seeded championship draw and current league format is the way forward I think

TBH you're full of shit...... Cant just keep changing the leagues cause it doesn't suit the big boys or because championship didn't turn out like it should, pure bullshit. Teams/players/management shouldn't go out and play that way (don't think they did) cause the draw was bad. Loughgiel walked the past 4 championships and not one complaint big two not in final, we have ones complaining! The football leagues have stayed the same for past twenty years and no complaints. Difference between top two teams and rest  would be greater than the hurling teams.

Let it go as it is, teams should be playing their level best in every game
Totally agree, this constant tinkering is tiresome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 04, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
of course someone goes against your thinking MR2 and they are full of shit  :o

as most have agreed this years championship was pretty poor and whether you like it or not i believe the simple reason was due to the lop-sided draw.

The leagues need to be put back to the normal 2 up 2 down, whether this is 8 / 10 / 12 teams is open to debate. But more importantly they have to be played with the county players, spectators want to watch the best players, kids want to watch the best players, not reserve matches.

IMHO this is the biggest obstacle to our leagues, the sooner it is rectified the better. It was started 20 odd years ago and was a large reason why the leagues got less competitive and spectator numbers got worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 04, 2014, 10:19:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on December 04, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Tbh I though the main problem with the league this year stemmed from the championship draws. If the four big teams had not been meeting in championship in the first round I think we would have seen a much better top section of the league. Due to them knowing they were meeting in the first round no team really went for it thus I feel league lost the competitiveness and then as a result championship was dead as league games werent up to the usual tempo. Seeded championship draw and current league format is the way forward I think

TBH you're full of shit...... Cant just keep changing the leagues cause it doesn't suit the big boys or because championship didn't turn out like it should, pure bullshit. Teams/players/management shouldn't go out and play that way (don't think they did) cause the draw was bad. Loughgiel walked the past 4 championships and not one complaint big two not in final, we have ones complaining! The football leagues have stayed the same for past twenty years and no complaints. Difference between top two teams and rest  would be greater than the hurling teams.

Let it go as it is, teams should be playing their level best in every game

Couldn't agree more with this. Enough playing around with these every year.

Could someone put in a motion that there be no changes to hurling leagues for next 10 years and then we'll maybe review them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: Megaman on December 04, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
of course someone goes against your thinking MR2 and they are full of shit  :o

as most have agreed this years championship was pretty poor and whether you like it or not i believe the simple reason was due to the lop-sided draw.

The leagues need to be put back to the normal 2 up 2 down, whether this is 8 / 10 / 12 teams is open to debate. But more importantly they have to be played with the county players, spectators want to watch the best players, kids want to watch the best players, not reserve matches.

IMHO this is the biggest obstacle to our leagues, the sooner it is rectified the better. It was started 20 odd years ago and was a large reason why the leagues got less competitive and spectator numbers got worse.

I'm only, like you, giving my view on it. Put a poll up and get an opinion from the rest. Your main reasons seem to be a once in a lifetime championship draw and the county (which has done it for years in football and hurling) taking the county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: Megaman on December 04, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
of course someone goes against your thinking MR2 and they are full of shit  :o

as most have agreed this years championship was pretty poor and whether you like it or not i believe the simple reason was due to the lop-sided draw.

The leagues need to be put back to the normal 2 up 2 down, whether this is 8 / 10 / 12 teams is open to debate. But more importantly they have to be played with the county players, spectators want to watch the best players, kids want to watch the best players, not reserve matches.

IMHO this is the biggest obstacle to our leagues, the sooner it is rectified the better. It was started 20 odd years ago and was a large reason why the leagues got less competitive and spectator numbers got worse.

I'm only, like you, giving my view on it. Put a poll up and get an opinion from the rest. Your main reasons seem to be a once in a lifetime championship draw and the county (which has done it for years in football and hurling) taking the county players.

I know what you mean - but they are not the county's players - glad everyone seems agreed that the practice of clubs being denied access to their own players is the main focus.
As I say, allowing a full club calendar will not harm our county side, it will improve it if anything.
And regarless f the structure - it will imporve our club hurling in every way.
Rising tide lifts all boats.
I personally favour the top 2 / 4 in the league being seeded (mainly to make the league more important) but fully understand the lure of the open draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.
It was the county who changed it to a 10 team league. Have you difficulty in understanding this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 04, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.
It was the county who changed it to a 10 team league. Have you difficulty in understanding this?

The county changed it to a 10 team league two years ago at convention and the league and championship worked fine that year did it not? At last years convention Cushendall proposed the new halfway split format which was adopted for this seasons league. It worked well for the bottom half of the split which had competitive and meaningful games. The matches in the top half split were a non event. Stick to 10 teams and a two way league in my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 04, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.
It was the county who changed it to a 10 team league. Have you difficulty in understanding this?

The county changed it to a 10 team league two years ago at convention and the league and championship worked fine that year did it not? At last years convention Cushendall proposed the new halfway split format which was adopted for this seasons league. It worked well for the bottom half of the split which had competitive and meaningful games. The matches in the top half split were a non event. Stick to 10 teams and a two way league in my opinion
The problem with 10 teams is getting 18 matches played with the round robin format. That is why C'Dall proposed the split..not through choice. Cos they knew it would near impossible to get the games played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
Right,
Dunloy aren't happy as they'd a few scary moments minus shorty to get them into the top half, the Dall suffered similarly as IIRC Sarsfields beat them, Ballycran played most games full strength although a good few of their team probably played a game the day before in the CR or whatever. Loughgeil or Ballycastle we don't know about.

The bottom half was competitive right through to the end with teams taking points off each other and there was no certainties. We took a few tankings against the top teams, but by and large we were competitive with those around us and whilst we got relegated it was a good learning curve for our novices. I'd say Galls, Ports and Johnnies would have been happy with the format, just looking to push on a bit more next year to get into the top 5.

IMO I wouldn't be running out to change the league as no matter what format you bring in the top teams do enough to keep them safe and then do what they need to do to prepare for the championship. 8 teams both way, 10 teams both way, 20 teams one way isn't going to change that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 04:44:24 PM
The ONLY thing Dunloy weren't happy with was the away games at the very start (wasn't it 4 in a row). I think that's a fair enough complaint
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 04, 2014, 04:44:24 PM
The ONLY thing Dunloy weren't happy with was the away games at the very start (wasn't it 4 in a row). I think that's a fair enough complaint

Yeah, I think we'd three or four away as well, and that could have been looked at a bit better. Home one game, then away the next can't be that hard to implement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 04, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
I really liked the league last year.  Meant in the run up to Champipnship we were playing teams of a high standard.  The games where decent too considering the standard of pitch and the weather.

If that could be sorted for next that'd be just grand!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 05, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.
It was the county who changed it to a 10 team league. Have you difficulty in understanding this?

no. have you difficulty in understanding my concerns about a club wanting a certain league format yet not sticking to it and then wanting to change it again next year? what happens next convention? will they want that changed again?

some one said the football hasnt been changed and no one moans about it. do the same as they do. leave the league set up alone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 05, 2014, 01:03:59 PM
so is C'dall the only club ever  to put a motion in to change the format?

At convention is C'dall the only ones allowed to vote it in.

Never been but im guessing other clubs have to vote as well.  ::)

So by your reckoning if things are shite just leave them alone.....and your not allowed to change your opinion on things!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
What's the Dalls problem with the league in its current format?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
What's the Dalls problem with the league in its current format?
I'd imagine they'd prefer if to go back to the 8 team 2 way league it was 3/4 years ago. They were competive. Less of a gap between top & bottom.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
What's the Dalls problem with the league in its current format?
I'd imagine they'd prefer if to go back to the 8 team 2 way league it was 3/4 years ago. They were competive. Less of a gap between top & bottom.

Aye, but top and bottom only played each other once, they still play the top teams twice, once at home so I'm not sure their complaints would stand up to scrutiny.

The only teams they really stuffed were ourselves and St Galls. They got a serious testing from the other three teams who ended up in the bottom half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 05, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 04, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 04, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
the league was grand the way it was. all this tinkering and changing of it serves no purpose.

cushendall have changed the format of it so many times over the past number of years and its ended up being scraped one year later. im not picking on them as a club but seriously stop coming up with these daft ideas.

leave the leagues as they are. 10 teams, 2 way league, reserve games played the same day. 2 up, 2 down.

championship is a knock out, no seeding. its pure luck who you draw and thats the best way.
It was the county who changed it to a 10 team league. Have you difficulty in understanding this?

no. have you difficulty in understanding my concerns about a club wanting a certain league format yet not sticking to it and then wanting to change it again next year? what happens next convention? will they want that changed again?

some one said the football hasnt been changed and no one moans about it. do the same as they do. leave the league set up alone!
No I don't. I explained before that C'Dall preferred the 8 team league. The county changed it to a 10 team league. C'Dall knew it wouldn't be possible to change it to a 8 team league for the following season (2014) due to the teams that were going be promoted/relegated. They knew it would be a struggle to get 18 games played cos of the round robin. We were never going to get 18 league matches played so that's why they suggested the split. That was only 13 games.
Now the proposal is to go back to the good 8 team league that was in place before the county changed it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
What's the Dalls problem with the league in its current format?
I'd imagine they'd prefer if to go back to the 8 team 2 way league it was 3/4 years ago. They were competive. Less of a gap between top & bottom.

Aye, but top and bottom only played each other once, they still play the top teams twice, once at home so I'm not sure their complaints would stand up to scrutiny.

The only teams they really stuffed were ourselves and St Galls. They got a serious testing from the other three teams who ended up in the bottom half.
It was a two way league. 14 games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 05, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 05, 2014, 01:12:14 PM
What's the Dalls problem with the league in its current format?
I'd imagine they'd prefer if to go back to the 8 team 2 way league it was 3/4 years ago. They were competive. Less of a gap between top & bottom.

Aye, but top and bottom only played each other once, they still play the top teams twice, once at home so I'm not sure their complaints would stand up to scrutiny.

The only teams they really stuffed were ourselves and St Galls. They got a serious testing from the other three teams who ended up in the bottom half.
It was a two way league. 14 games

And last year they got 13 games, with only two mismatches and got all the big home gates against their local rivals.

The upside of the bottom section of the league should not be underestimated and will only serve the whole of Antrim hurling (and Down   8) ) in the longer term better IMO.

Methinks they're throwing the baby out with the bath water if they want to revert to a 8 team league, it just doesn't make sense.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 05, 2014, 04:02:35 PM
The league was poor this year. too many away games at the start of the season for ourselves was just really bad planning. there wasnt a game of senior hurling seen in our pitch for over a month yet the footballers were there every other week.

megaman i agree that if its shite then change it. the reason its going to be changed for next season is because this season didnt work. 10 teams with 18 games is maybe too many games esp at a dual club.

8 teams home and away will def work. the only bother i have is the league being restructured to suit the county team. the 1% as everyone talks about now. i dont see what benifit it is to have a league set up to suit a county team whenever A) the county will cancel the games to suit themselves and B) a league structured that teams play without their county players then decided to cancel games themselves.

the 8 team set up worked before. you have say loughgiel, ballycastle, cushendall, st johns, ballycran, Dunloy, portaferry and St Galls. 1 up 1 down. maybe even stretch it to having 2nd from bottom in a two leg play off with 2nd in div 2 to see if they go up or down?

im happy with 8 or 10 if im honest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 05, 2014, 04:56:44 PM
I think it has been discussed on here before at the disregard some clubs show the league, so does it matter what format it takes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 05, 2014, 05:25:56 PM
Yeah, totally agree DR,  but wht then complain when clubs what it changed.

ive already said and it only my opinion that the disregard started some 20 years ago, when certain mangers stopped county players playing in leagues etc.  This has never been rectified over the years and this disregard is now the norm

IMHO we have to get all players playing in all league games, get a settled league format and take it from there, it wont change attitudes over night but i believe over time it will make things better.

As Jeepers touched on, it nearly doesn't matter what format there is at the minute, the leagues will be poor enough.

I know you will disagree DR, but in recent times the best league season i can think of was 1999 (and im not talking about how the championship turned out) the league games that year where competitive mainly cause they determined semi-finals but also cause they where played with all players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on December 05, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on December 04, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
Tbh I though the main problem with the league this year stemmed from the championship draws. If the four big teams had not been meeting in championship in the first round I think we would have seen a much better top section of the league. Due to them knowing they were meeting in the first round no team really went for it thus I feel league lost the competitiveness and then as a result championship was dead as league games werent up to the usual tempo. Seeded championship draw and current league format is the way forward I think

TBH you're full of shit...... Cant just keep changing the leagues cause it doesn't suit the big boys or because championship didn't turn out like it should, pure bullshit. Teams/players/management shouldn't go out and play that way (don't think they did) cause the draw was bad. Loughgiel walked the past 4 championships and not one complaint big two not in final, we have ones complaining! The football leagues have stayed the same for past twenty years and no complaints. Difference between top two teams and rest  would be greater than the hurling teams.

Let it go as it is, teams should be playing their level best in every game



How can you not have noticed the games between the big four not being as competitive as previous years? I know for a fact Ballycastle rested players against all three of the other Antrim teams in the top section. The only time a full team was seen in the run up to championship was against Ballycran(in ballycran) and in a friendly against St Vincents in Dublin. I also don't recall the other teams playing full teams against us either. Nobody wanted to show their full hand so close to championship. Fact of the matter is the championship draw was lopsided and the winner was only ever coming out of one side. The other side was closer to intermediate standard than senior. the lack of a seeded championship draw therefore clearly caused a detrimental effect to the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on December 06, 2014, 07:03:14 AM
This business of not showing full hand is rubbish each team will everyplayer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 06, 2014, 07:31:39 AM
I agree, this not showing your hand is in my opinion a demonstration of a real lack of faith in the team.  It's as if you can only win by ambush!

The leagues where grand, decent standard of match given the quality of pitches.  i don't think Ballycastle next management will take the same approach.  I'd commend our management who got on with games regardless of county players on stage one and played full strength in stage 2!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2014, 10:28:39 AM
Have to agree with max. Get the home away routine a bit better and it would have been fine. The weather also made for some poor runs out (at home for us the Ballycran game(s) shouldn't really have went ahead...it was biblical, and then the Loughgiel game also was on a borderline playable pitch.

I'd also have to commend our management and players. They just got on with it without whinging and I think that attitude is the right one if you're trying to mould a panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on December 06, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
Regardless of the reasons for teams not playing full compliments of players in the run up to championship it did. I think this years league structure is definitely the way to go with our leagues, however a few tweeks are necessary to ensure everyone is happy.
- Sort out the home/away fixtures ensuring everybody has equal amounts
- Seed the championship draw because as much as some may not it like it the fact is the same four Antrim teams will always be in the running for the championship and always in the Top 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2014, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on December 06, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
Regardless of the reasons for teams not playing full compliments of players in the run up to championship it did. I think this years league structure is definitely the way to go with our leagues, however a few tweeks are necessary to ensure everyone is happy.
- Sort out the home/away fixtures ensuring everybody has equal amounts
- Seed the championship draw because as much as some may not it like it the fact is the same four Antrim teams will always be in the running for the championship and always in the Top 5.

Seed it?? Your right about one thing the same team keeps shitting its pants every year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 07, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
Rather than seed it why not consider a draw at the end of the league.

Only the teams that have completed their full fixtures by end of July are in, one round of games every three weeks until the end of September.  A draw at the end of each round.

Take this 6 month obsession with one team out of everyones training.  Maybe just train to be better hurlers then!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 07, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
Humpy confirmed as new McQuillans manager at tonight's AGM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 08, 2014, 09:55:19 AM
i had heard there a week ago that he was in the running for it. how do yous think he will get on at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 08, 2014, 05:32:39 PM
He will do a good job I reckon. It is a long time since a championship came to the town in 1986. He certainly has a potentially strong panel. I hope the players all weigh in behind him and his back room team of Paul Jennings and Eddie McHenry. Time will tell.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Ballycastle early favorites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Ballycastle early favorites

Big time, though Humpy would need to play to give them a chance ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 08, 2014, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Ballycastle early favorites

Big time, though Humpy would need to play to give them a chance ;)

Lol. Behave you two 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
Any news on what was agreed at last nights county convention? What did they agree to regarding the proposed changes to league structures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2014, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Ballycastle early favorites

Big time, though Humpy would need to play to give them a chance ;)

He is exactly the type of player that they are missing at the moment, someone who will dig in when times get tough, wont shirk responsibility and go missing.

Is there an argument to say that they along with St John's to say that they are the biggest under achievers of recent times?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
Any news on what was agreed at last nights county convention? What did they agree to regarding the proposed changes to league structures?

my aul boy was at it. this is what i could rem that happened from the notes he took. correct me if im wrong on any of it.

Motion 3
That the Senior and Senior reserve hurling leagues be a 2 way league in 2015
Ruairi Og
approved

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC
approved

Motion 6
That all county league competitions at u16, u18 and reserve in both football and Hurling can be played with a minimum of 13 players.
If one team only has 13 the opposition has to play with 13 to match them
If one team only has 14 the opposition has to play with 14 to match them
If both teams have 15 players then they play 15 a side
Antrim CCC
approved


Ruin 4
That the Reserve Cup in Hurling be graded on the league positions at a specified date by CCC (probably the end of August)
1 v 8
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
Teams 1,2,3,4, to have home advantage. Open draw to determine semi-final pairings
Antrim CCC
approved

Ruin 4
That the u21 football championship be scheduled to run from the last week in May to the last week in June
Miceal Mac Daibheid
not approved

Ruin 5
That the Ruairi Og proposal passed at convention in 2009, allowing 2 Senior graded players to play in reserve league games – be adopted into the County league regulations.
Ruairi Og
approved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2014, 09:56:20 AM
theres other motions that are on the antrim gaa page but i cant rem what the outcome was. they were the likes of the fines, insurances etc.

maybe someone else who was at it can confirm the outcome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 09, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
Any news on what was agreed at last nights county convention? What did they agree to regarding the proposed changes to league structures?

my aul boy was at it. this is what i could rem that happened from the notes he took. correct me if im wrong on any of it.

Motion 3
That the Senior and Senior reserve hurling leagues be a 2 way league in 2015
Ruairi Og
approved

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC
approved

Motion 6
That all county league competitions at u16, u18 and reserve in both football and Hurling can be played with a minimum of 13 players.
If one team only has 13 the opposition has to play with 13 to match them
If one team only has 14 the opposition has to play with 14 to match them
If both teams have 15 players then they play 15 a side
Antrim CCC
approved


Ruin 4
That the Reserve Cup in Hurling be graded on the league positions at a specified date by CCC (probably the end of August)
1 v 8
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
Teams 1,2,3,4, to have home advantage. Open draw to determine semi-final pairings
Antrim CCC
approved

Ruin 4
That the u21 football championship be scheduled to run from the last week in May to the last week in June
Miceal Mac Daibheid
not approved

Ruin 5
That the Ruairi Og proposal passed at convention in 2009, allowing 2 Senior graded players to play in reserve league games – be adopted into the County league regulations.
Ruairi Og
approved

I hope we're in a position to avail of the one promotion spot out of Div2 as there'll be three going down out if it!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Thanks DR

JohnneyCool. If all 4 hurling divisions are reverting to eight teams and they are allowing one team to be promoted in all divisions this year. That would mean:

3 are relegated from div one and only one team promoted from division 2 to make division one an eight team league.

This would leave 12 in division 2 plus one coming up from division 3 makes 13. They will have to relegate the bottom 5 from division 2 to achieve their aim of an 8 team league. Is that correct???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Thanks DR

JohnneyCool. If all 4 hurling divisions are reverting to eight teams and they are allowing one team to be promoted in all divisions this year. That would mean:

3 are relegated from div one and only one team promoted from division 2 to make division one an eight team league.

This would leave 12 in division 2 plus one coming up from division 3 makes 13. They will have to relegate the bottom 5 from division 2 to achieve their aim of an 8 team league. Is that correct???

That would be my take on it!

Will get messy especially if a few games are not played right to the depths of winter!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Thanks DR

JohnneyCool. If all 4 hurling divisions are reverting to eight teams and they are allowing one team to be promoted in all divisions this year. That would mean:

3 are relegated from div one and only one team promoted from division 2 to make division one an eight team league.

This would leave 12 in division 2 plus one coming up from division 3 makes 13. They will have to relegate the bottom 5 from division 2 to achieve their aim of an 8 team league. Is that correct???

That would be my take on it!

Will get messy especially if a few games are not played right to the depths of winter!

So next year - it'd better to win Division 2 than to come 3rd bottom in Division 1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on December 09, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 09, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
Thanks DR

JohnneyCool. If all 4 hurling divisions are reverting to eight teams and they are allowing one team to be promoted in all divisions this year. That would mean:

3 are relegated from div one and only one team promoted from division 2 to make division one an eight team league.

This would leave 12 in division 2 plus one coming up from division 3 makes 13. They will have to relegate the bottom 5 from division 2 to achieve their aim of an 8 team league. Is that correct???

That would be my take on it!

Will get messy especially if a few games are not played right to the depths of winter!

So next year - it'd better to win Division 2 than to come 3rd bottom in Division 1?

I could be wrong here but at the minute we have 10 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2, 9 in div 3 and 7 in div 4, thats 36 teams, 4 divisions of 8 would equal 32 teams, what about the other 4? or am i looking at something wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
i would say the bottom league could have more teams in it. Ballymena are not in good shape with regards to hurling. chat of them scrapping senior and concentrating on under age only.

i think its two down 1 up next year and then the same the year after to bring it to 8 teams for div1?

the reserve championship idea isnt great. its hardly fair to have it top v bottom in a championship draw.

whats wrong with straight forward open draws lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 09, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
i would say the bottom league could have more teams in it. Ballymena are not in good shape with regards to hurling. chat of them scrapping senior and concentrating on under age only.

i think its two down 1 up next year and then the same the year after to bring it to 8 teams for div1?

the reserve championship idea isnt great. its hardly fair to have it top v bottom in a championship draw.

whats wrong with straight forward open draws lol

There was a separate motion from Ruairi Óg (motion 5) to phase the numbers down, but the motion that you posted above (motion 4) which was proposed by CCC was asking all 4 divisions of hurling to revert to 8 team leagues at the end of the 2015 season. That being the case then it won't be 2 down and 1 up in division 1???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on December 09, 2014, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 09, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
i would say the bottom league could have more teams in it. Ballymena are not in good shape with regards to hurling. chat of them scrapping senior and concentrating on under age only.

i think its two down 1 up next year and then the same the year after to bring it to 8 teams for div1?

the reserve championship idea isnt great. its hardly fair to have it top v bottom in a championship draw.

whats wrong with straight forward open draws lol

would say that will be how it does pan out, 3 divisions of 8 then the rest in division 4, im sure some clubs wont be happy but its up to themselves to get their own house in order and get out of the division they are in. Like all new formats and changes there will be teething problems but (hopefully) will work itself out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
What is the longest period there has been with no changes to league structure?!  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 09, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
What is the longest period there has been with no changes to league structure?!  :-\

we are the original 'tinkermen' in honour of your avatar's fellow country man!

As I said earlier, could be a 6 team league unless it is played with some seriousness its won't make a blind bit of difference to hurling development.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Sorry if this has been answered but:

Is the team third from bottom of Divison 1 at the end of next season relegated?
Whilst the team at the top of Division 2 is promoted?

If this is the case I'm not sure why we i don't believe the top division 2 team would be better given the chance in the top flight as with normal promotion relegation with bottom teams concerned?

There should be a play-off here given the dis-parity of number due to re-structure?

Oh hold on - the leagues will probably be re-re-re-re-re-structured by then anyway? ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 09, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
ive always thought 1 up 1 down along with a playoff match between 2nd bottom and 2nd top for Div1/2 would of been a good idea.

or even 2nd 3rd and 4th along with 2nd bottom in div 1 in a one off game with each other and then the winners in a final to decide who goes into div1.

would make it more exciting near the end of the season to get into Div 1.

ah jaysus now im tinkering with the league set up lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on December 09, 2014, 03:26:56 PM

1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   Ballygalget

9.   St Galls
10.   Sarsfields
11.   Rossa
12.   Clooney Gaels
13.   Carey Faughs
14.   Glenariff
15.   Clockmills
16.   St Pauls

17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Tir Na nOg
20.   Bredagh
21.   Armoy
22.   Creggan
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Na Magha
29.   St Agnes'
30.   Glenravel
31.   O'Donnells
32.   Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley

How the leagues would look going on how they finished this year. The only reason for this 'restructure' = to suit our county teams!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 04:01:41 PM
No it wouldn't, st galls finished above us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 09, 2014, 04:01:41 PM
No it wouldn't, st galls finished above us

Good man Johnney ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 09, 2014, 04:16:42 PM
Someone should have brought a motion that there will be no change to league structures for the next 5 years. Mad at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 09, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on December 09, 2014, 03:26:56 PM

1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   Ballygalget

9.   St Galls
10.   Sarsfields
11.   Rossa
12.   Clooney Gaels
13.   Carey Faughs
14.   Glenariff
15.   Clockmills
16.   St Pauls

17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Tir Na nOg
20.   Bredagh
21.   Armoy
22.   Creggan
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Na Magha
29.   St Agnes'
30.   Glenravel
31.   O'Donnells
32.   Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley

How the leagues would look going on how they finished this year. The only reason for this 'restructure' = to suit our county teams!

So can someone post how the leagues WILL look next year?

And using an example of final standing what would happen at the end of next season?

Got to say the constant tinkering is a bit outrageous at this stage regardless of which option we come and go to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
Btdtgtt. This is how the leagues will start in 2015


1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   St Galls
9.   Rossa
10. Clooney Gaels


11.  Ballygalget
12.  Sarsfields
13.  Glenariff
14.  Carey Faughs
15.  Cloughmills
16.  St Pauls
17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Armoy
20.   Creggan

21.   Randalstown
22.   Bredagh
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Glenravel
29.  O'Donnells

30.  Na Magha
31.  St Agnes
32.  Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 10, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on December 09, 2014, 03:26:56 PM

1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   Ballygalget

9.   St Galls
10.   Sarsfields
11.   Rossa
12.   Clooney Gaels
13.   Carey Faughs
14.   Glenariff
15.   Clockmills
16.   St Pauls

17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Tir Na nOg
20.   Bredagh
21.   Armoy
22.   Creggan
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Na Magha
29.   St Agnes'
30.   Glenravel
31.   O'Donnells
32.   Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley

How the leagues would look going on how they finished this year. The only reason for this 'restructure' = to suit our county teams!
It's time you checked your spelling.   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on December 11, 2014, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on December 10, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 09, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on December 09, 2014, 03:26:56 PM

1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   Ballygalget

9.   St Galls
10.   Sarsfields
11.   Rossa
12.   Clooney Gaels
13.   Carey Faughs
14.   Glenariff
15.   Clockmills
16.   St Pauls

17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Tir Na nOg
20.   Bredagh
21.   Armoy
22.   Creggan
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Na Magha
29.   St Agnes'
30.   Glenravel
31.   O'Donnells
32.   Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley

How the leagues would look going on how they finished this year. The only reason for this 'restructure' = to suit our county teams!

So can someone post how the leagues WILL look next year?

And using an example of final standing what would happen at the end of next season?

Got to say the constant tinkering is a bit outrageous at this stage regardless of which option we come and go to.
The spice of life.  Such narrow mindedness.

If we keep doing the same things, with the same people, with the same teams, you most likely will get the same results.   I thought some of you fellas, like Jim McClean (Dunloy) would have put your names forward, nah!  The cop out is the easy option me thinks.  Same old story, point fingers, blame someone else, someone else will do it.  So, you lunatics want the eegits in the asylum to act on your impulses and meaningless rants? Not a great mandate on your part if you don't act on it, where it counts or matters.  The status quo, remains with the exception of JMcC.  Well, at least a good North Antrim Hurling man stepping up to the plate. that a positive.

Just thought I would drop in to see how things are and get a perspective of progress and maybe be enlightened?  (That was a rhetorical question of course).

Bloody marvellous  :-[

What's all this about Jim McClean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
jim got elected as the new ulster council delegate at Antrim convention. hes in along with Danny McLarnon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 11, 2014, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 09, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
Btdtgtt. This is how the leagues will start in 2015


1.   Ballycran
2.   Ruairi Og
3.   Loughgiel
4.   Ballycastle
5.   Dunloy
6.   Portaferry
7.   St Johns
8.   St Galls
9.   Rossa
10. Clooney Gaels


11.  Ballygalget
12.  Sarsfields
13.  Glenariff
14.  Carey Faughs
15.  Cloughmills
16.  St Pauls
17.   Gort na Mona
18.   Cushendun
19.   Armoy
20.   Creggan

21.   Randalstown
22.   Bredagh
23.   Lamh Dhearg
24.   St Enda's
25.   Rasharkin
26.   Shane O'Neills
27.   St Teresa's
28.   Glenravel
29.  O'Donnells

30.  Na Magha
31.  St Agnes
32.  Davitts
33.   Ballymena
34.   Belfast Shamrocks
35.   Larne
36.   Ballyvarley
I thought div 3/4 was 1 up 1 down which would mean this is wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 11, 2014, 11:38:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on December 11, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
Bloody Marvellous  ;) ;)

Our esteemed association President Liam O'Neil has indicated, it will be inevitable a female will become president of our association :o

I wonder would he like to pick my numbers for the lottery on Saturday and Wednesday night? How prophetic and inspiring is that inevitable prediction?

We may even get female members on the Antrim GAABoard soon  ;D  (Moderators permitting of course).  Have to say, a few good women would shake this place up somewhat, eh?  Dare say though, a few of the big women who regularly contribute on here, may be put out a little  ::)


Looks like everyone else but Antrim embraces change.
there's a Ballycastle women on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 12, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
i dont think its a big deal a woman becoming GAA president. its something that we shouldnt be shocked at. the woman in our clubs do brilliant work. our clubs secretary is a woman and i cant praise her high enough for the work she does. any time you need something she has it done asap.

it wont happen in our county board as no one wants them jobs! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2014, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
i dont think its a big deal a woman becoming GAA president. its something that we shouldnt be shocked at. the woman in our clubs do brilliant work. our clubs secretary is a woman and i cant praise her high enough for the work she does. any time you need something she has it done asap.

it wont happen in our county board as no one wants them jobs! :D

I think the family nature of the GAA means women taking up positions (easy lads!) is no big news for us. Women have always been a part of the Association so more and more formally taking higher profile positions is no big news - like in other sports.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 12, 2014, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
i dont think its a big deal a woman becoming GAA president. its something that we shouldnt be shocked at. the woman in our clubs do brilliant work. our clubs secretary is a woman and i cant praise her high enough for the work she does. any time you need something she has it done asap.

it wont happen in our county board as no one wants them jobs! :D

I think the family nature of the GAA means women taking up positions (easy lads!) is no big news for us. Women have always been a part of the Association so more and more formally taking higher profile positions is no big news - like in other sports.

We've had women in the main roles at our club the past 3/4 years and we have been in the black (money wise) last 2 years and we have been pretty successful on the pitch to, I'm all for it fairness!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on December 12, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 12, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
i dont think its a big deal a woman becoming GAA president. its something that we shouldnt be shocked at. the woman in our clubs do brilliant work. our clubs secretary is a woman and i cant praise her high enough for the work she does. any time you need something she has it done asap.

it wont happen in our county board as no one wants them jobs! :D
Couldn't agree more.  The women are the backbone of our club really, most clubs would also acknowledge this if they were really honest?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2014, 05:58:26 PM
Female refs anyone?!
;) :D ;D ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 15, 2014, 09:56:32 AM
they would get moaned at as much as the men lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 15, 2014, 11:17:31 AM
Well we didnt see that coming?! Not  >:(

Only people going to end up happy at the end of this are the legal teams.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 15, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
GAA/Residents/DOE to meet this afternoon and agree small amendments to the stadium and improved conditions for residents and back to court on Wednesday for the green light!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 15, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
if this doesnt come to an agreement then its the end for casement park. we cant afford to fund dunsilly and rebuilding casement ourselves.

it will be the end of a county ground in belfast for the considerable future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on December 15, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
I hope so Max otherwise we are in a terrible predicament. I have an ominous feeling that we are dammed if we do dammed if we don't after the county board signed away Antrim GAAs claim to Casement park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with what it was before hand. If they had thought of putting the money into the county teams to try and get us competing Instead of that shambles they were trying to build.  Money hungry cnuts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 15, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
I actually think it's a disgrace the amount of money being pumped into county teams, across the whole island.  The issue being paid management being judged on performances and demanding near professional approaches. If we keep feeding the beast who knows where it could end up but our Association is changing every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 15, 2014, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 15, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
if this doesnt come to an agreement then its the end for casement park. we cant afford to fund dunsilly and rebuilding casement ourselves.

it will be the end of a county ground in belfast for the considerable future.

Initially it was deemed that this project really was too good of a thing for Antrim to refuse as they'd have 'access' to a state of the art stadium for little or no outlay other than handing over the deeds to Casement park so I can understand hows its come to this.
The behaviour of the Antrim CB to ensure that there were no obstacles to the project left a lot to be desired and if anything probably got the backs up of the local residents who've fought tooth and nail to ensure their misgivings got the light of day (pun heaven) rather than being heavily handed brushed under the carpet.

Please stop this nonsense of 'taking the money and spending it on something else' as this is not what the money is about, its a sop to the IFA who didn't want the Maze project and they couldn't be seen to give them money without the other two big organisations getting their slice of the pie, that pie is solely for the development of a stadium, not for coaches, upgrading Dunsilly or wherever.
Casement is now an all or nothing project with nothing looking very likely.

The Ulster council assisted by the top table in Antrim have made a monumental f**k up of this and no doubt there's a few political parties involved in it as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 15, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
Its a total joke. we now have no county ground for the forseeable future and have to rely on clubs to facilitate the games. it isnt fair to expect ballycastle and ahoghill clubs to do all the national league games each season. it will have to start being played at different club venues to spread the load.

as per usual its the ordinary vol on the ground that has to pick the slack up for others failings for free!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Quote from: maxpower on December 15, 2014, 02:48:49 PM
I actually think it's a disgrace the amount of money being pumped into county teams, across the whole island.  The issue being paid management being judged on performances and demanding near professional approaches. If we keep feeding the beast who knows where it could end up but our Association is changing every year.
i agree with that yes.  But if there was money being spent. The ground was fine IMO and it could have been put to use on are U16 or minor teams like dublin done few years back. To try and sort out the mess that is antrims senior hurling team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 15, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
hurling at the top level county wise is beyond us. we cant match the top tier of hurling and the way were going we wont be for a long time.
i cant criticise the players as i know how much they put into training from speaking to a few of them. some train 5 nights a week going straight from work and not getting home till after 10/11. but pumping money in at senior level wont cure our problems.
its been said over and over that the hard work has to be done at under age and through our development squads. the under age lads have been getting some decent results this year in games v limerick, dublin etc which bodes well but the work needs to keep going into them
you all know that our clubs senior success is dependant on the youth coming through each year to boost the panels. a strong u14 and 16 team can be a great access for a clubs future success. the same applies to our county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Thats my point.  u14, u16 and minor.  Well if all the work is getting put in. Why has the county went back in the last 3/4 years instead of forward?  I in no way mean to be running down the lads that are there. But sometimes it frustrating.  Another question. And this isn't a go at KR. This 3year plan. What's the goal? As I believe this is the 3rd year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 15, 2014, 06:27:16 PM
Great points max.
Money and the pursuit of it is distorting our association so much.

Don't forget not all the money for this casement vanity project was coming from government - if it collapsed then hopefully the Ulster council contribution will remain to be spent within antrim.

As for the current debacle - the Ulster council, stormont, antrim executive created this. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of how big a fiasco it has been.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 15, 2014, 07:10:25 PM
Like arm chair generals and Shinners, do you really have a right to criticise the Casement shambles?? Shinners got on board as a result of control and money involved and local kudos. All our clubs endorsed and elected to high office the incompetent county officials, should we now have the right to point fingers??  The ironic thing is this, the good people of West Belfast and our collective clubs keeping voting the same wasters back in. So who should we blame and point fingers at? < this way, not that way >. Get real here!  Power and money, power and money.

Sure Carol Killen,  (DCAL minister), Marty Miller & cohorts never set foot in the place other than for timely political gain & acclaim. When will our people ever learn and wise up to these wasters?
Conned by the GAA, Church and Shinners, a clear case of keeping the Croppies down. Bloody marvellous, eh! Our own our keeping us down and no one else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on December 15, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
The whole exc committee need to go, they have been found culple by everyone along this process and to the tie Rugby in to deflect the complete and utter incompetence  of the intial approach how stupid do they think the people are. I just watched the news and seen the wee man and if I not mistaken a present referee also that was a shock! If the clubs allow this to go much further then Antrim deserves all it gets, I have to agree with cross he has hit the nail on the head however I would question your politics which I have no wish to get into that on this board as it is not the place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Not like generals or shinners, just never thought there was any need for it in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 15, 2014, 11:56:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 15, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Not like generals or shinners, just never thought there was any need for it in Antrim.
Thats all very well for a North Antrim man. I say that with all dye respect if course, but born, bred and living in the west qualifies me for a differing perspective on things. Sure its all political no matter what way you skew it.

You see my politics are simple, i.e. Integrity, credibility, social conscience and decency. Throw in a degree of reliability, high moral fabric and volunteering for no monetary or political gain, thats me! I dont know of too many political parties with such ideals or principles, hence I dont vote for them.

Ironically though, whose to blame, surely not those in positions of power and control (CB & Shinners) but those who who elect them and give them a mandate!

None so blind as those who cannot see! Come and live here to witness it. Be thankful ur from North Antrim. Keep ur enemies close and ur supposed friends even closer, it wont be the enemies who let you down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2014, 12:14:47 AM
Think your maybe on the wrong thread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 16, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
SG dont even entertain him by replying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 16, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
whats the chances of this being settled today?

do we get used to county matches in ballycastle, loughgiel, dunloy etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 16, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 16, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
whats the chances of this being settled today?

do we get used to county matches in ballycastle, loughgiel, dunloy etc?

Interesting who's involved in these discussions - Shows those who have the vested interests, and those capable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 16, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 16, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
SG dont even entertain him by replying.
Bloody marvellous!  You must be a Dunloy Shinner me thinks, now there's democracy for ya, freedom of expression and all that - 'Ourselves alone and nobody else', an appropriate mantra for the Shinners - why share the pie, when we can have it all ourselves.  DR - why don't you GET REAL? Your accordion maybe needs tuning  ;D.  Johnny Ping lives on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
Can any hurling man say that Antrim need that stadium? Am not looking hundreds of thousands spent on them. But spend a few quid on the stadium that was there and spend a few quid on trying to develope ourselves into a position that Antrim hurling should be in. I see limerick has a good man in now as director of youth.  Something like this if it was the right man, would be money better spent. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 16, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on December 16, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 16, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
SG dont even entertain him by replying.
Bloody marvellous!  You must be a Dunloy Shinner me thinks, now there's democracy for ya, freedom of expression and all that - 'Ourselves alone and nobody else', an appropriate mantra for the Shinners - why share the pie, when we can have it all ourselves.  DR - why don't you GET REAL? Your accordion maybe needs tuning  ;D.  Johnny Ping lives on.

i honestly have no idea what your on about with these posts. :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2014, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 16, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
Can any hurling man say that Antrim need that stadium? Am not looking hundreds of thousands spent on them. But spend a few quid on the stadium that was there and spend a few quid on trying to develope ourselves into a position that Antrim hurling should be in. I see limerick has a good man in now as director of youth.  Something like this if it was the right man, would be money better spent.

I've heard the southerners say we're great at spending our money on bricks and mortar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 16, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 16, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on December 16, 2014, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 16, 2014, 09:33:18 AM
SG dont even entertain him by replying.
Bloody marvellous!  You must be a Dunloy Shinner me thinks, now there's democracy for ya, freedom of expression and all that - 'Ourselves alone and nobody else', an appropriate mantra for the Shinners - why share the pie, when we can have it all ourselves.  DR - why don't you GET REAL? Your accordion maybe needs tuning  ;D.  Johnny Ping lives on.

i honestly have no idea what your on about with these posts. :-\
Sincere and humblest apologies DR, my response was directed at NAG1, a Dun Laithai man all the same!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 16, 2014, 04:39:55 PM
You are aware that you make little sense alot (not all) of the time?

NAG is not a Dunloadian BTW
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 16, 2014, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 16, 2014, 04:39:55 PM
You are aware that you make little sense alot (not all) of the time?

NAG is not a Dunloadian BTW
I'll reserve my judgement on your suggested good counsel Skull.  Not that I have anything personal against most Dunloy men/people.  Fine upstanding people as with the majority of North Antrim Gaels.  I have lived in the city too long possibly  ::).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
So any more word on this farce. according to papers the 3 groups haven't sat down to talk yet. has anyone heard anything to the contrary?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on December 17, 2014, 06:08:56 PM
Id say there will be a lot o houses and apartments and a move to the maze or somewhere else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
i was thinking the same myself.

if it fails sell casement off and let them build houses/commercial properties etc. find a greenfield site and build it there. the residents get no compensation package at all.

i dont understand how they are entitled to any money in the first place. ravenhill went up without a mute and it situated in an area where property is at a mental high and Windsor has went up without a mute either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 09:43:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
i was thinking the same myself.

if it fails sell casement off and let them build houses/commercial properties etc. find a greenfield site and build it there. the residents get no compensation package at all.

It won't fail - Sinn Fein have a vested interest in securing the new ground for West belfast. There is other sites nearby earmarked for housing. That's why their Minister is now saying the money is ring-fenced - they want the stadium too.
As for building it on a Greenfield site - I dare say some in Ulster Council and maybe even Antrim would support this.
It would be a disgrace! I think suggesting such a thing is a disgrace!
Ireland's 2nd biggest City without a central GAA presence and no county ground? Do you really want Belfast to become a worse GAA story than Derry City?
Also - but of lesser significance - The infrastructure is in Belfast.
Casement is a traditional / spiritual home - even since being re-re-possessed from the Britsh Army.Why should the incompetent procedures of others rob Belfast gaels of a stadium they have cherished, it's not their fault.

i dont understand how they are entitled to any money in the first place. ravenhill went up without a mute and it situated in an area where property is at a mental high and Windsor has went up without a mute either.

The residents have never claimed they just want money. A new stadium but of smaller size is their agenda. The reason the other stadia didnt face such objections is because the planning process was followed correctly in these situations. Blame the proceess not the residents.

Talk seems to be that SF will pull moves to secure the money into the new year.
The government money handcuffs Ulster Council to the project.
A new Casement is built (with DUP trying to change the name) on a smaller scale - residents happy.
The only remaining issue is the waste of money getting to this point - and Antrim being without a stadium for all this time.
Hopefully the eventual new stadium will make us forget the shambles that lead to it - and hopefully those at fault will be accountable. Not likely. The issue of ownership (ie) Ulster Council or Antrim is still one which our own County Reps need to be held accountable for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
if the residents haven't claimed they wanted money then why did they reject a recent compensation amount? money should not be an issue. address the stadium size like they want and that's it. end of according to them. the majority want the stadium, they want what it will bring to their area, they want a smaller capacity - that's grand and well - but there's some who do want to get what they can from this set up.

i want the stadium built as soon as and i understand the history of the place. ive been going to games there since the 80's when i was kid with my dad and i love the place but if its a case of pushing our county forward i would rather see a brand new set up to take us into the future.

we lost 3 clubs this year in belfast and at convention they said another 2 will possibly go next year in the city. thats depressing reading. in a city like belfast losing so many clubs will kill the game in the long term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 18, 2014, 10:50:33 AM
There are too many clubs in Belfast, Dunloy, so I'm glad clubs are folding. I mean this in the kindest way. Shaws road alone has 3 clubs, side by side. It's too many to create good sides. Naomh Gall, Naomh Eoin, McD's all within a stone's throw of each other as well. It spreads good players very thinly. I would love to see less clubs of better quality in the city. I would also love to see a quality hurling only club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
i know what your saying. its not what i would like to see but it means smaller clubs will disappear at the expense of the larger clubs to keep the GAA alive in the city.

Breadgh have done a great job there and have a great youth set up. they seem to have no problems attracting players and it may be due to them being the only club about that area.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
if the residents haven't claimed they wanted money then why did they reject a recent compensation amount? money should not be an issue.

Precisely They rejected a buy off becasue money wasn't their concen.
It was offered because the powers-that-be erroniously though that was it. Again thats not the residents fault.
address the stadium size like they want and that's it. end of according to them. the majority want the stadium, they want what it will bring to their area, they want a smaller capacity - that's grand and well - but there's some who do want to get what they can from this set up.

i want the stadium built as soon as and i understand the history of the place. ive been going to games there since the 80's when i was kid with my dad and i love the place but if its a case of pushing our county forward i would rather see a brand new set up to take us into the future.

we lost 3 clubs this year in belfast and at convention they said another 2 will possibly go next year in the city. thats depressing reading. in a city like belfast losing so many clubs will kill the game in the long term.

On another couple of points raised:
- glad DR you acknowldge that the greenfield notion to leave Belfast without the GAA presence is unthinkable. Dunsilly (don't laugh!) is fine - but in addition to Casement. Belfast cannot be left wanting by the GAA in the way Derry is now a reosurce with little or no yield due to it's neglect.

- I agree there are too many clubs in WEST Belfast. Bredagh & St Endas are benefitting now from large populations which west belfast have didvided (also benefitting from their hard work in utilising in now).

- Hurlingstick I would never be happy to see clubs folding! But it's reluctantly agree in inevitable.
My personal prefernce would be for amalgamations - whereby a club which traditionally preferred hurling and a club which traditionally preferred football could operate under the same banner as effectively a dual club. These will develop over time to form new entities in their own right. The current set-up means young lads are not getting games or they get demoralised playing for weaker clubs - the loss of players suits nobody!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
i think thats part of the problem here, the GAA want this to be a stadium capable of holding the ulster final. 18,000 wouldnt cut it for them.

i dont think they realise that we wouldnt get 18k at the combined national league games between hurling and football in 2 years.

have you heard anything HS about the potential of a settlement and its outcome?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
if the residents haven't claimed they wanted money then why did they reject a recent compensation amount? money should not be an issue.

Precisely They rejected a buy off becasue money wasn't their concen.
It was offered because the powers-that-be erroniously though that was it. Again thats not the residents fault.
address the stadium size like they want and that's it. end of according to them. the majority want the stadium, they want what it will bring to their area, they want a smaller capacity - that's grand and well - but there's some who do want to get what they can from this set up.

i want the stadium built as soon as and i understand the history of the place. ive been going to games there since the 80's when i was kid with my dad and i love the place but if its a case of pushing our county forward i would rather see a brand new set up to take us into the future.

we lost 3 clubs this year in belfast and at convention they said another 2 will possibly go next year in the city. thats depressing reading. in a city like belfast losing so many clubs will kill the game in the long term.

On another couple of points raised:
- glad DR you acknowldge that the greenfield notion to leave Belfast without the GAA presence is unthinkable. Dunsilly (don't laugh!) is fine - but in addition to Casement. Belfast cannot be left wanting by the GAA in the way Derry is now a reosurce with little or no yield due to it's neglect.

- I agree there are too many clubs in WEST Belfast. Bredagh & St Endas are benefitting now from large populations which west belfast have didvided (also benefitting from their hard work in utilising in now).

- Hurlingstick I would never be happy to see clubs folding! But it's reluctantly agree in inevitable.
My personal prefernce would be for amalgamations - whereby a club which traditionally preferred hurling and a club which traditionally preferred football could operate under the same banner as effectively a dual club. These will develop over time to form new entities in their own right. The current set-up means young lads are not getting games or they get demoralised playing for weaker clubs - the loss of players suits nobody!

what do you think of the new hurling club belfast shamrocks? do you think thats the way forward for some clubs in the west (the smaller ones i mean) with regards to hurling? its sort of like the Sean stensions scenario in the south west where portgleone and ahoghill combine at under age and then split up at minor level to their respective senior teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
Belfast Shamrock is a noble effort made by noble GAA people - but I think it's handicapped by the lack of stability. Guys aren't sure to commit as they believe its a notional or temporary thing - Sean Stinson has tradition. Thats why I think formal amalgamations with permanent security would be more succesful. Young lads knew they would be playing for Stinsons - they didnt sign up to Shamrocks.

On Casement I agree with HS and believe:

Current plan scrapped.
Politics steps in to secure the money.
New plan gets go ahead - smaller stadium built.
Then more politics over the name and what it's used for (at club, county, intercounty & social levels!)
Still, that's better than no stadium!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on December 18, 2014, 01:27:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
i was thinking the same myself.

if it fails sell casement off and let them build houses/commercial properties etc. find a greenfield site and build it there. the residents get no compensation package at all.

i dont understand how they are entitled to any money in the first place. ravenhill went up without a mute and it situated in an area where property is at a mental high and Windsor has went up without a mute either.

I know with Ravenhill for one had made some concessions during its process but these were done early and with respect to locals, ulster Rugby kept their powder dry and local groups happy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
I spoke to one of the residents who told me that they have not been approached by the GAA about a settlement. Therefore, there is no settlement. IMO, the judge will quash the planning permission today and the GAA will reapply.
If there wasn't agrrement reached with the residents at the very start then things should not have gone this far
Our county board chairman and his cronies must be thinking," what do you have to do to get sacked round here" them and whatever Ulster coucil personel involved are a bunch of idiots
It's our fault ( the clubs) that these people are still running things

The plan for the stadium was always for  a 35000 seater and if the residents didn't want it then it should have been moved to dunsilly before now
The residents can delegate the projects capacity so move it somewhere more suitable  where local people don't mind and they can benefit from the various financial rewards

No one coming out of this looking good including the residents
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
I spoke to one of the residents who told me that they have not been approached by the GAA about a settlement. Therefore, there is no settlement. IMO, the judge will quash the planning permission today and the GAA will reapply.
If there wasn't agrrement reached with the residents at the very start then things should not have gone this far
Our county board chairman and his cronies must be thinking," what do you have to do to get sacked round here" them and whatever Ulster coucil personel involved are a bunch of idiots
It's our fault ( the clubs) that these people are still running things

The plan for the stadium was always for  a 35000 seater and if the residents didn't want it then it should have been moved to dunsilly before now
The residents can delegate the projects capacity so move it somewhere more suitable  where local people don't mind and they can benefit from the various financial rewards

No one coming out of this looking good including the residents

Ahem,
    this is an Ulster stadium, not an Antrim stadium..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
I spoke to one of the residents who told me that they have not been approached by the GAA about a settlement. Therefore, there is no settlement. IMO, the judge will quash the planning permission today and the GAA will reapply.
If there wasn't agrrement reached with the residents at the very start then things should not have gone this far
Our county board chairman and his cronies must be thinking," what do you have to do to get sacked round here" them and whatever Ulster coucil personel involved are a bunch of idiots
It's our fault ( the clubs) that these people are still running things

The plan for the stadium was always for  a 35000 seater and if the residents didn't want it then it should have been moved to dunsilly before now
The residents can delegate the projects capacity so move it somewhere more suitable  where local people don't mind and they can benefit from the various financial rewards

No one coming out of this looking good including the residents

Ahem,
    this is an Ulster stadium, not an Antrim stadium..

Casement was antrim county grounds to someone signed it over for nothing to Ulster council
Clones is Monaghan county grounds
What's your point here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
I spoke to one of the residents who told me that they have not been approached by the GAA about a settlement. Therefore, there is no settlement. IMO, the judge will quash the planning permission today and the GAA will reapply.
If there wasn't agrrement reached with the residents at the very start then things should not have gone this far
Our county board chairman and his cronies must be thinking," what do you have to do to get sacked round here" them and whatever Ulster coucil personel involved are a bunch of idiots
It's our fault ( the clubs) that these people are still running things

The plan for the stadium was always for  a 35000 seater and if the residents didn't want it then it should have been moved to dunsilly before now
The residents can delegate the projects capacity so move it somewhere more suitable  where local people don't mind and they can benefit from the various financial rewards

No one coming out of this looking good including the residents

Ahem,
    this is an Ulster stadium, not an Antrim stadium..

Casement was antrim county grounds to someone signed it over for nothing to Ulster council
Clones is Monaghan county grounds
What's your point here

That if a decision is made to move the new development away from the Casement site, the needs of the entire province will need to be put into consideration as well as the viability of the stadium to host extra curricular activities.
Whilst Dunsilly is reasonably well serviced by the M2/M22 (not sure about how well to the current Antrim centre of excellence though!) I can't see it going there and is probably more likely to go to either Armagh or Dungannon which I think would be a mistake as well.

Antrim have thrown all their eggs into the redevelopment of Casement in some form and IMO thats the only viable option open to Antrim gaels.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 18, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
I spoke to one of the residents who told me that they have not been approached by the GAA about a settlement. Therefore, there is no settlement. IMO, the judge will quash the planning permission today and the GAA will reapply.
If there wasn't agrrement reached with the residents at the very start then things should not have gone this far
Our county board chairman and his cronies must be thinking," what do you have to do to get sacked round here" them and whatever Ulster coucil personel involved are a bunch of idiots
It's our fault ( the clubs) that these people are still running things

The plan for the stadium was always for  a 35000 seater and if the residents didn't want it then it should have been moved to dunsilly before now
The residents can delegate the projects capacity so move it somewhere more suitable  where local people don't mind and they can benefit from the various financial rewards

No one coming out of this looking good including the residents

Ahem,
    this is an Ulster stadium, not an Antrim stadium..

Casement was antrim county grounds to someone signed it over for nothing to Ulster council
Clones is Monaghan county grounds
What's your point here

That if a decision is made to move the new development away from the Casement site, the needs of the entire province will need to be put into consideration as well as the viability of the stadium to host extra curricular activities.
Whilst Dunsilly is reasonably well serviced by the M2/M22 (not sure about how well to the current Antrim centre of excellence though!) I can't see it going there and is probably more likely to go to either Armagh or Dungannon which I think would be a mistake as well.

Antrim have thrown all their eggs into the redevelopment of Casement in some form and IMO thats the only viable option open to Antrim gaels.

Our county board signed over our county grounds to Ulster council for nothing
For a project to accomadate Ulster finals and the like as well as generate some extra revenue via non GAA activities
As it turns out the site is not viable for  various reasons so what was the point
Surely some research and consultation before signing over anything woukd have been logical
In my view dunsilly was another alternative to casement for an Ulster stadium for some of the reasons you just mentioned
Imm looking at this mess purely from an Antrim perspective.
If it's knocked on the head now because they can't get capacity requirements will the Ulster council look for a better location and give casement back to  Antrim
By its current state what do antrim do with it, don't thinks there's any money to fix it back
Where Ulster football finals are played are last thing on the agenda at the minute in antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 18, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Lads, lads, lads, nothing but innuendo, hearsay, rumour and speculation here.  Lets just leave to those who are better placed and in a position to comment, on how things are progressing and moving things on.  Makes you wonder though why JC stood down for the MORA committee and also that BM has quietly disappeared????  Either way a stitch up by Antrim CD and UC and you will never know the full ins and outs of events.

Sure makes you wonder if extreme ideology has clouded common sense among all parties involved?

And yes, we do have too many clubs, but who is going to be brave enough to lets say, kick off potential merges among O' Donavan Rossa, Noamh Gall, Noamh Eion, Noamh Pol, Padraig Sairseil, Noamh Una, Noamh Teresa, Lamh Dhearg etc. ??  No certainties but distinct possibilities, but ultimately inevitable in all eventualities.  Just not enough young cubs to go around, as the association goes forward and too many alternative options for young people, with soccer, rugby being much, much  more lucrative and appealing. Changing and interesting times ahead I would say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
NAH you are aware that dunsilly is just as big a f**k up as casement?

New stadium will be in belfast - as it should be - no debate.

Ur points on accountability are correct but sadly I don't see people reaping what they sowed.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
NAH you are aware that dunsilly is just as big a f**k up as casement?

New stadium will be in belfast - as it should be - no debate.

Ur points on accountability are correct but sadly I don't see people reaping what they sowed.

Yeah I am aware of dunsilly
That's why I memtioned it, we havnt the money to finish it so we they should have gave them that

As for Ulster stadium in the city fair enough but who  else is going to sign over prime land worth money for nothing other than antrim executive
Lots of big stadia In USA is outside there city's cor reasons of access and parking  facility's etc
His much further  is  dunsilly from Belfast coming from the South of the m1
Belfast int airport is in Antrim
Anyway just a thought
Imm just looking in the papers at the state of casment park and now it's seems it's not a viable location
What a Fuk up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 07:14:18 PM
The stadium will be in belfast.
For gaa & political reasons there is no chance of the government money going outside west belfast or Ulster council money goin to an antrim complex.
The stadium belongs where it is. That won't be changing due to administrative incompetence.

American stadia are a different animal. They include public transportation and conferencing facilities and are geared towards the entertainment industry too - not gaa pitches that belong in their community. But anyway like I said that's just a non-runner.

Dunsilly & casement together must be two of the finest messes our county have ever got into.
In any other county they would be scandals that tainted those responsible to their grave.
Not here however - not in antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 18, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 18, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
NAH you are aware that dunsilly is just as big a f**k up as casement?

New stadium will be in belfast - as it should be - no debate.

Ur points on accountability are correct but sadly I don't see people reaping what they sowed.

Yeah I am aware of dunsilly
That's why I memtioned it, we havnt the money to finish it so we they should have gave them that

As for Ulster stadium in the city fair enough but who  else is going to sign over prime land worth money for nothing other than antrim executive
Lots of big stadia In USA is outside there city's cor reasons of access and parking  facility's etc
His much further  is  dunsilly from Belfast coming from the South of the m1
Belfast int airport is in Antrim
Anyway just a thought
Imm just looking in the papers at the state of casment park and now it's seems it's not a viable location
What a Fuk up
And who elected those into positions of power and were permitted to create such a feck up????  Allowed to act with impunity and no accountability, yet we re-elect them year in and year out, now whose fault is that?  :-[ As I said previously, we clearly have elected representatives whose ambition far exceeds their ability.  Lets not forget, those who elect them are culpable here also.  But we really then have to pose the question, are you going to put your name forward and ensure something is done about it in the future, I fear not?  Talk really is extremely cheap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on December 18, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Yeah - who is BM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 18, 2014, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 18, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Yeah - who is BM?
Ahh, I had only thought of Bob Murray, until now.
That's cleared that up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on December 18, 2014, 11:15:00 PM
Actually yep - it must be a reference to Bob Murray. And its a good question too, or was Bob not part of the MORA objectors? (Maybe he was just the social club rep?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 18, 2014, 11:46:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 18, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on December 18, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Yeah - who is BM?
Ahh, I had only thought of Bob Murray, until now.
Great deductions HS, ur surely one not to underestimate and obviously a close eye on things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
All below is written Without Prejudice: The Fairytale of the West

Couldn't sleep lads this casement thing keeping me up!!! If we go right back to when this project was first conceptually developed, allegedly some within our present leadership decided oh we'll have a piece of that and took the initiative to begin engagement and approached in a alleged dictatorship manner as they allegedly do on a day to day basis within the county as in this is happening residents so feck use!!!! Long before UC decided to get involved. Allegedly then some "Alan Sugars" thought ummm maybe other entities could be established on the back of this and get a long time role in the new project, concerts rugby matches, conferences feck me? a Minnie Croke Park and their company gets 7mill a year!!!!

Allegedly then In the interim period UC big wigs had finalised a gentleman's agreement that Rugby would be played in this new home and the name would be changed or feck that arrogance seems to be endemic among our mandated officials who needs to speak to the clubs??? Maybe we can re-name Dunsilly, Casement Park? completely denied of course on our glorious website?? By this time back on the farm the residents happened to be fairly intelligent professional people and thought na who do these people from the CE  think they are we aren't going to be bullied like the clubs so lets get some legal advice and do our due diligence (now there's a phrase that some of our CE should learn, oops its too late) like the Croke park residents did. Then it was get that social club out!!! Oh yes maybe we should do some due diligence first about how we should engage and discuss this, NOT, and it allegedly cost £40k+ wonder who wrote the cheque for that debt?ummmmmm. I would still watch that space as I think this may still be a popular media article possibly in the not to distant future, but then who knows?

So lets continue to spend money we don't have on our C of E- again due diligence seems to be missing there and now £3.5m + later and Club Antrim and CE friendship strained and recent NIR requirements about ball stops, oh shit did we not do our DD again, ah well the clubs won't notice and no-one has the stones to challenge us at convention so walt on!!!!

Now back to the farm, allegedly Alan Sugars have fallen out, politicians now involved, PSNI saying that the infrastructure will not support scheme as proposed (but lets ignore them due to past history), residents on firm legal footing, UC getting nervous as 38k stated within its Bus case is needed to bring the big pop bands and make some money to pay for its new headquarters in the new "DD (Due Diligence) Stadium". Now spiralling out of control lets ask our new Rugby friends to run to the tabloids and media to make a case for us veiled under the "Rugby World Cup Ticket" and this will put the whole bid in danger if its not built... nothing against our sporting neighbours as they do know the meaning of Due Diligence and can get things right, thoroughly enjoyed my recent visit to what was our ground back in the day.

In conclusion allegedly the Stadium will be built later than expected, it will have a far lesser capacity, the residents will be properly treated and offered a suitable inconvenience package, UC might still stay involved but have to re-draft their BC and payback period will be longer, the social club will get their day in the sun, Jesus the only thing that remains constant without change is the team that allegedly put us in the shit to start off with!!! I think its time the clubs took their own mandate from their volunteers and get an EGM and cut out the Cancer that is killing this County, we are the fecking laughing stock of the association. Feck me Roy Keanes book The Second half would have nothing on this story, any suggestions from the forum as to what we would call ours?

All of the above is just a fictional story and is based on no due diligence being carried out, it is without prejudice and made up, so if you believe it then your a bigger fool than we are...

Runaway Train, never going back-
Wrong way on a one track-
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 19, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
Soul Asylum fan then MIBAG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 19, 2014, 09:10:57 AM
i would say they will come back in Jan with a new planning application.

the residents want a stadium between 20k-25k, that wont wash it with the GAA. they want prob around 30k. there will be some serious amount of debating done with this now to ensure it gets passed through without any objections.

the chair of the casement project made a good point when he stated that some people will never be happy with the project and i think hes right.

in reality how often will casement be used?

national league games - 7 say
McKenna cup/walsh cup - 3 maybe
ulster championship - potentially 2-3
all ireland quarter final - 1

club championship games - 1 hurling final, 1 football final (Antrim), maybe a semi final
Ulster hurling 2 potential games

it could possibly be used maybe 20 times a year for matches that would bring a large to small crowd. theres other games along the year but they wont bring a crowd worth bothering about.

what other additional uses will the ground then have? rugby match? a concert?

i dont see any difference to the amount of people that attended casement each year for games than to what it will be when the new grounds built.

as this is no longer our ground it seems we wont have a choice other than to accept what the UC want with regards to the stadium size.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 19, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
You would hope that the new stadium would capture the imagination of youngsters around Belfast and therefore boost attendances. If they were to bring along friends and family we could see the stadium providing a positive legacy. If we could then attract these new viewers to their local clubs, the GAA would be in a lot healthier state in Belfast. Of course that is probably taken from the extreme right of the positivity scales.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2014, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
All below is written Without Prejudice: The Fairytale of the West

Couldn't sleep lads this casement thing keeping me up!!! If we go right back to when this project was first conceptually developed, allegedly some within our present leadership decided oh we'll have a piece of that and took the initiative to begin engagement and approached in a alleged dictatorship manner as they allegedly do on a day to day basis within the county as in this is happening residents so feck use!!!! Long before UC decided to get involved. Allegedly then some "Alan Sugars" thought ummm maybe other entities could be established on the back of this and get a long time role in the new project, concerts rugby matches, conferences feck me? a Minnie Croke Park and their company gets 7mill a year!!!!

Allegedly then In the interim period UC big wigs had finalised a gentleman's agreement that Rugby would be played in this new home and the name would be changed or feck that arrogance seems to be endemic among our mandated officials who needs to speak to the clubs??? Maybe we can re-name Dunsilly, Casement Park? completely denied of course on our glorious website?? By this time back on the farm the residents happened to be fairly intelligent professional people and thought na who do these people from the CE  think they are we aren't going to be bullied like the clubs so lets get some legal advice and do our due diligence (now there's a phrase that some of our CE should learn, oops its too late) like the Croke park residents did. Then it was get that social club out!!! Oh yes maybe we should do some due diligence first about how we should engage and discuss this, NOT, and it allegedly cost £40k+ wonder who wrote the cheque for that debt?ummmmmm. I would still watch that space as I think this may still be a popular media article possibly in the not to distant future, but then who knows?

So lets continue to spend money we don't have on our C of E- again due diligence seems to be missing there and now £3.5m + later and Club Antrim and CE friendship strained and recent NIR requirements about ball stops, oh shit did we not do our DD again, ah well the clubs won't notice and no-one has the stones to challenge us at convention so walt on!!!!

Now back to the farm, allegedly Alan Sugars have fallen out, politicians now involved, PSNI saying that the infrastructure will not support scheme as proposed (but lets ignore them due to past history), residents on firm legal footing, UC getting nervous as 38k stated within its Bus case is needed to bring the big pop bands and make some money to pay for its new headquarters in the new "DD (Due Diligence) Stadium". Now spiralling out of control lets ask our new Rugby friends to run to the tabloids and media to make a case for us veiled under the "Rugby World Cup Ticket" and this will put the whole bid in danger if its not built... nothing against our sporting neighbours as they do know the meaning of Due Diligence and can get things right, thoroughly enjoyed my recent visit to what was our ground back in the day.

In conclusion allegedly the Stadium will be built later than expected, it will have a far lesser capacity, the residents will be properly treated and offered a suitable inconvenience package, UC might still stay involved but have to re-draft their BC and payback period will be longer, the social club will get their day in the sun, Jesus the only thing that remains constant without change is the team that allegedly put us in the shit to start off with!!! I think its time the clubs took their own mandate from their volunteers and get an EGM and cut out the Cancer that is killing this County, we are the fecking laughing stock of the association. Feck me Roy Keanes book The Second half would have nothing on this story, any suggestions from the forum as to what we would call ours?

All of the above is just a fictional story and is based on no due diligence being carried out, it is without prejudice and made up, so if you believe it then your a bigger fool than we are...

Runaway Train, never going back-
Wrong way on a one track-

Well said apart from comparing these clowns to alan sugar
He's worrh 800 million through possitive drive and good business instincts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2014, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 19, 2014, 09:10:57 AM
i would say they will come back in Jan with a new planning application.

the residents want a stadium between 20k-25k, that wont wash it with the GAA. they want prob around 30k. there will be some serious amount of debating done with this now to ensure it gets passed through without any objections.

the chair of the casement project made a good point when he stated that some people will never be happy with the project and i think hes right.

in reality how often will casement be used?

national league games - 7 say
McKenna cup/walsh cup - 3 maybe
ulster championship - potentially 2-3
all ireland quarter final - 1

club championship games - 1 hurling final, 1 football final (Antrim), maybe a semi final
Ulster hurling 2 potential games

it could possibly be used maybe 20 times a year for matches that would bring a large to small crowd. theres other games along the year but they wont bring a crowd worth bothering about.

what other additional uses will the ground then have? rugby match? a concert?

i dont see any difference to the amount of people that attended casement each year for games than to what it will be when the new grounds built.

as this is no longer our ground it seems we wont have a choice other than to accept what the UC want with regards to the stadium size.

This project was never going to be Ulster Gaa games only
There ways the going to be extra non gaa lucrative events
of promoters for concerts and the IRFU look at the smaller capacity they won't bother
It's intresting that it's never transparent where extra revenue goes
I agree with a previous post this whole thing is prime for Spotlight Special
If so I bet JM or whoever won't be available for comment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 19, 2014, 09:46:08 AM
this will be like the 'who owns Guladuff Hall' saga lol

whos owns casement, a spotlight exclusive!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 19, 2014, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on December 19, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
You would hope that the new stadium would capture the imagination of youngsters around Belfast and therefore boost attendances. If they were to bring along friends and family we could see the stadium providing a positive legacy. If we could then attract these new viewers to their local clubs, the GAA would be in a lot healthier state in Belfast. Of course that is probably taken from the extreme right of the positivity scales.

its a problem for all clubs. we have kids playing at under 10 downwards whos parents never played for our club nor darken its gates to watch a match at times. its getting them involved thats the problem. if you can get them involved and interested they can help out and become involved in the running of a team, support those in a position.

it does all start in the primary schools, if theres a strong link between the local PS and the GAA club the kids will tend to stay with it along with their mates.that bond is something thats built up over years and both help each other. parents and kids see that link.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 19, 2014, 10:10:43 AM
Another problem I foresee with this stadium, running/operational costs on match day. You used to have some club cship matches in casement (Quarters/Semis), school finals etc. The owners (UC) will say it is too expensive to open and run the stadium for matches like these were attendances would be in the low 100s. People might want more supporters to come to the stadium for various types of matches but the reality is that running costs will keep it closed most of the time until the big games come along. I remember hearing that Croke Park has an attendance figure it has to reach before breaking even, same principle will apply here with a 30K odd stadium. Even our club county finals (2-3K supporters) would probably not justify opening and running the stadium for these games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 19, 2014, 12:05:34 PM
yeah i cant see it being open for some local cup final in belfast like it has been over the past number of years. i expect them to be looking at the running cost of opening it for a game and whats needed to be spent before they can break even.

i rem playing an U21 hurling semi v st pauls in it one Wednesday evening and there being about 100 people there. those types of games prob will be sent else where as opposed to opening casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on December 19, 2014, 01:48:48 PM
Croke Park is made available annually for U-12 club teams to get the Croke experience. The spectators attending would be low in numbers and I guess don't pay an entry fee. I think the idea that it won't be available for club/school games is overstated. I'm sure that'll all be included as part of the plan, assuming there is one...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 19, 2014, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: jdyok on December 19, 2014, 01:48:48 PM
Croke Park is made available annually for U-12 club teams to get the Croke experience. The spectators attending would be low in numbers and I guess don't pay an entry fee. I think the idea that it won't be available for club/school games is overstated. I'm sure that'll all be included as part of the plan, assuming there is one...

Croke Park is made available for U12 games as a photoshoot - once a year.
Thats a big difference to grassroots Gaels having access to their own stadium.
For God sake - Kerry & Mayo couldnt get into Croker for an All-Ireland semi!
Access to Casement was minimal even before a development - the notion that we'll be watching schools and underage games there regualrly is laughable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 19, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2014, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
All below is written Without Prejudice: The Fairytale of the West

Couldn't sleep lads this casement thing keeping me up!!! If we go right back to when this project was first conceptually developed, allegedly some within our present leadership decided oh we'll have a piece of that and took the initiative to begin engagement and approached in a alleged dictatorship manner as they allegedly do on a day to day basis within the county as in this is happening residents so feck use!!!! Long before UC decided to get involved. Allegedly then some "Alan Sugars" thought ummm maybe other entities could be established on the back of this and get a long time role in the new project, concerts rugby matches, conferences feck me? a Minnie Croke Park and their company gets 7mill a year!!!!

Allegedly then In the interim period UC big wigs had finalised a gentleman's agreement that Rugby would be played in this new home and the name would be changed or feck that arrogance seems to be endemic among our mandated officials who needs to speak to the clubs??? Maybe we can re-name Dunsilly, Casement Park? completely denied of course on our glorious website?? By this time back on the farm the residents happened to be fairly intelligent professional people and thought na who do these people from the CE  think they are we aren't going to be bullied like the clubs so lets get some legal advice and do our due diligence (now there's a phrase that some of our CE should learn, oops its too late) like the Croke park residents did. Then it was get that social club out!!! Oh yes maybe we should do some due diligence first about how we should engage and discuss this, NOT, and it allegedly cost £40k+ wonder who wrote the cheque for that debt?ummmmmm. I would still watch that space as I think this may still be a popular media article possibly in the not to distant future, but then who knows?

So lets continue to spend money we don't have on our C of E- again due diligence seems to be missing there and now £3.5m + later and Club Antrim and CE friendship strained and recent NIR requirements about ball stops, oh shit did we not do our DD again, ah well the clubs won't notice and no-one has the stones to challenge us at convention so walt on!!!!

Now back to the farm, allegedly Alan Sugars have fallen out, politicians now involved, PSNI saying that the infrastructure will not support scheme as proposed (but lets ignore them due to past history), residents on firm legal footing, UC getting nervous as 38k stated within its Bus case is needed to bring the big pop bands and make some money to pay for its new headquarters in the new "DD (Due Diligence) Stadium". Now spiralling out of control lets ask our new Rugby friends to run to the tabloids and media to make a case for us veiled under the "Rugby World Cup Ticket" and this will put the whole bid in danger if its not built... nothing against our sporting neighbours as they do know the meaning of Due Diligence and can get things right, thoroughly enjoyed my recent visit to what was our ground back in the day.

In conclusion allegedly the Stadium will be built later than expected, it will have a far lesser capacity, the residents will be properly treated and offered a suitable inconvenience package, UC might still stay involved but have to re-draft their BC and payback period will be longer, the social club will get their day in the sun, Jesus the only thing that remains constant without change is the team that allegedly put us in the shit to start off with!!! I think its time the clubs took their own mandate from their volunteers and get an EGM and cut out the Cancer that is killing this County, we are the fecking laughing stock of the association. Feck me Roy Keanes book The Second half would have nothing on this story, any suggestions from the forum as to what we would call ours?

All of the above is just a fictional story and is based on no due diligence being carried out, it is without prejudice and made up, so if you believe it then your a bigger fool than we are...

Runaway Train, never going back-
Wrong way on a one track-

Well said apart from comparing these clowns to alan sugar
He's worrh 800 million through possitive drive and good business instincts

Ah, don't be fooled by the above epiphany NAH, it all smacks of one individual or a representative body who are totally fecked off because they are having it so bad, correction - stop press, because others are potentially going to have it so good!

I have seen this all before, peripheral and embittered individuals who have missed out on the 'gravy train' and feeling marginalised.  For one that does not sleep so well, and took all night to complete this embittered rant (posted 06.32:15 hrs), he would have us all believe he or his associates had all the answers and would had the wherewith-all to adhere to Due Diligence (DD)and processes of no impropriety.

Just like many others in our county and society, wishing to carve out a living on the back of our great association CLG, our clubs and our young people.

What we have representing us was duly elected by us all collectively, we are all culpable here, regardless of where it is now easy to point fingers!  Make no mistake about that.  A real pity we don't have a few more Gerry Carrol's (PBP) in our midst, who can see beyond self serving interests. 

The Irish trait of begrudgery springs to mind here, an extremely familiar Irish Trait and never more so prominent as in West Belfast presently.  Anyway, we will get our flagship stadium in the long run, have no doubt about that.  Be assured though, the rats will come out of the woodwork, critical opponents of this whole debacle will be queueing up for their VIP tickets for official openings (i.e. Residents, Shinners, SDLP,UC, EC, MLAs, Aldermen, Surveyors, Accountants, Consultants/CNUTsultants etc. etc.)

The irony of course is, some of these frequently refer to the need for social and economic regeneration of WB, environmental improvements, green spaces, economic benefits, employment etc.  All have short memories of course, burning buses, chopped down trees, bombed factories, shooting industrialists, burning tyres, taking seats in Stormont, fraternising with arch rivals of GAA and Irish Culture, need I say more?

Please note, I don't vote for any of them, but Gerry Carrol (PNP) may be an option for the future.  Hoping our respective clubs county wide, will remember all the personalities involved, but if the mist recent County Convention is to go by, I feel we are in for much of the same in years to come.  As I said, we are all culpable.  Time for the crusade to gut it all out and start from a fresh, but where are we likely to avail of at least 12 non self serving men of integrity, vision, competence, and a desire to do it all for the greater good of the county.  In the final analysis, the Status Quo is of our own doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 19, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
getevennotcross

Whatever you're on, can I get a pint of it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 19, 2014, 03:20:58 PM
Quote from: cfclg on December 19, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
getevennotcross

Whatever you're on, can I get a pint of it!
Sure thing, and it's cheap at the price. It's called Honestly, Integrity, forbearance and calling a spade a spade.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on December 19, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
cudnt agree more getevennotcross, we can blame whoever we want but we have only ourselves to blame!

whilst we continue to talk crap about it & not nominate ppl for these positions we cant say a word against the men there, we vote them in, wud anyone else do their job? not me thats for sure!

i think our sleepless friend mibag is very good at writing a bit of jackanori, reminds me of a match report he once penned!!
as u say getevennotcross everyone will clamber for free tickets to the grand opening when, not if, when casement is re-opened!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: cfclg on December 19, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
getevennotcross

Whatever you're on, can I get a pint of it!

Has more of a narcotic look about it than beverage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 19, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 19, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
Soul Asylum fan then MIBAG?
saw them back in the day. Loada crap!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 04:47:22 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on December 19, 2014, 03:45:42 PM
cudnt agree more getevennotcross, we can blame whoever we want but we have only ourselves to blame!

whilst we continue to talk crap about it & not nominate ppl for these positions we cant say a word against the men there, we vote them in, wud anyone else do their job? not me thats for sure!

i think our sleepless friend mibag is very good at writing a bit of jackanori, reminds me of a match report he once penned!!
as u say getevennotcross everyone will clamber for free tickets to the grand opening when, not if, when casement is re-opened!!




LMAO honestly you crac me up...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
Geteven credit where credit is due your rhetoric is supberb I have no interest in casement park I couldn't give a fiddlers if its never built,  however I cannot abide the bullshit that is being peddled in the papers and media by all these dictats misleading the public as well as the gaa volunteer's up and down the county. Spillane is right its time the gaa family take back their association and get rid of the suit's and pic pockets....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 19, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
Geteven credit where credit is due your rhetoric is supberb I have no interest in casement park I couldn't give a fiddlers if its never built,  however I cannot abide the bullshit that is being peddled in the papers and media by all these dictats misleading the public as well as the gaa volunteer's up and down the county. Spillane is right its time the gaa family take back their association and get rid of the suit's and pic pockets....
For someone who reads the papers, sits up half the night because "this casement thing was keeping me up" and who also contributes to this thread to say they "couldn't give a fiddlers", I detect is extremely misleading on your part, and primarily a veiled deflection.

To align yourself to the verbiage used by the likes of Spillane, is also of major concern.  Do you think Spi*****e, O'R****, B****y et al, have not picked pockets along the way, in line with their pursuit of media attention seeking and notoriety??

Its the real 100% bona fide volunteers who own the association and who keep it thriving and alive, those who do it for no monetary reward whatsoever! A commendable raison d'etre in my opinion, can others say the same, I fear not?  But hey, others are not all real volunteers.

Well, back to my coffee in Costa and to reading my Irish Times, a more discerning read.  Have to kill time waiting on her in doors finish the Xmas shopping along with the kids.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 20, 2014, 06:58:55 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on December 19, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on December 19, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
Geteven credit where credit is due your rhetoric is supberb I have no interest in casement park I couldn't give a fiddlers if its never built,  however I cannot abide the bullshit that is being peddled in the papers and media by all these dictats misleading the public as well as the gaa volunteer's up and down the county. Spillane is right its time the gaa family take back their association and get rid of the suit's and pic pockets....
For someone who reads the papers, sits up half the night because "this casement thing was keeping me up" and who also contributes to this thread to say they "couldn't give a fiddlers", I detect is extremely misleading on your part, and primarily a veiled deflection.

To align yourself to the verbiage used by the likes of Spillane, is also of major concern.  Do you think Spi*****e, O'R****, B****y et al, have not picked pockets along the way, in line with their pursuit of media attention seeking and notoriety??

Its the real 100% bona fide volunteers who own the association and who keep it thriving and alive, those who do it for no monetary reward whatsoever! A commendable raison d'etre in my opinion, can others say the same, I fear not?  But hey, others are not all real volunteers.

Well, back to my coffee in Costa and to reading my Irish Times, a more discerning read.  Have to kill time waiting on her in doors finish the Xmas shopping along with the kids.

In answer to your original rebutal I always was of the opinion it was a Trojan Horse and the suits and dictas would always have approached in a  aut viam inveniam aut faciam attitude, so no veiled deflection on my part geteven. The pundits i would concur totally but a broken clock is right twice a day as they say... your raison d'etre statement is i believe in the modern games,  now a utopian ideology. Unfortunately for us all in this day and age when local clubs are having to find £100's weekly to maintain snr teams that pressure on the volunteers then falls back on juveniles and there parents to run fundraisers all year round etc etc. People talk about elected/mandated officers and the sterling work they do granted but those golden nuggets are few and far between, as we all know the dictats and pic pockets are like all democratic entities out there elected by the minority not the majority a chara.... And as Karl Marx once said " the government is but a committee for running the common affairs of the bourgeoisie" the GAA, Shinners, Catholic Church and so on are no different. Finally keen to know your stance on the Social Club in casement, Right or Wrong? Off for a doze these early mornings are a killer!!


C11 we will see how many of you close friends come out unscathed in the near future, looking forward to see what they ask you to post on their behalf LOL... Im sure i can sniff out a few truffles for you ;) Oh and BTW i hear your favourite ref may be back on the scene in the near future your lads shud watch that space :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 20, 2014, 05:44:34 PM
ManInBlackandGreen or should I say 'Joseph in his Technical Colour Dreamcoat', i.e. Black &Green, Blue & White, Red & White, Green & Black and I am reliably informed a little touch of Yellow ?  More colours than Harry Nobletts by the look of things.   Your reference to 'aut viam inveniam aut faciam' sounds rather defeatist and of one who gloats, in some respects, however as in all aspects of life, there are times when presented with difficulty, obstacles and obstruction, we  have the gift of empowerment in finding another way or the potential to find a way of circumventing such hurdles. Clearly UC, have sufficient capability and grey matter to overcome such difficulties in our midst and they will ultimately, despite objections, begrudgers, provide us with a stadium we all may be proud of.  The McAvineys, Dalys and Feeneys of this world, I am confident will deliver. 

Fair to say though, I would not have the same level of confidence in some, and I emphasise some, of the elected officers in HQ, Páirc Mhic Easmainn. 

Also, somewhat presumptuous on your part to allude to the fact that I may be your friend (a chara)!  If the information I have obtained is indeed true, and that I now know your identity, your somewhat delusional.  I would be one, who is a lot more selective in who I would chose friends!  I have made a lot of acquaintances in life, but very few I would term as friends.  Real friends are generally those of integrity, honesty, reliability and sincerity, such traits are hard to find in many respects. The characteristics of a real friend I may add.

As to your query regarding my stance on Casement Social Club, of no consequence to me really, I never frequented the CSC and tend to shop local.  I was never of the mind to socialise in Casement Park and generally prefer to frequent my local hostelry.  I am led to believe the Guinness is much nicer in Gravediggers compared to Casement anyway. The Glenowen is another of my local haunts, twice a week normally for lunch, with me ma (god bless her) on Tuesdays and wife and kids on Sundays, when at home.

Also,in your aggressive and underhand taunts at C11, you appear for whatever reason to be someone in the know, as they say?  A pity you don't utilise such knowledge/information in a more positive and endearing manner to fellow gaels, you never know you may make a  friend or two along the way (a chara).  Well anything is possible, I always say!  But in your case, I suspect there is always the exception to the rule, but hey don't loose sleep over it, as you appear to be already, over the ignominious failure of Casement development.

Just had an instant message for one of your alleged allies, beware ManInBlackandGreen - Scorpions all.  See what I mean regarding supposed friends. Very quiet at the moment, is it that you work night shifts or the legal profession, just mindful of the sleepless nights?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 22, 2014, 06:35:15 AM
 Geteven: lex non distinguitur nos non distinguere debemus so I enjoy my own council ;) I would say anyone who PM's you is trying more to find out about you than I they all want to get an edge and they have been trying to find out my identity for a while its amusing to say the least, I keep no friends for the exact reasons you previously listed apart from my dog he is more dependable  ;D

I asked for your stance on the social club to extract your knowledge on the present issues, many come to this site and defend some/all of our mandated officers, thus the glove to C11 in my last post, I will however wait to see what the media decides its going to inform us of in the coming weeks and we can all Judge for ourselves ;)  In addition to the Irish Times (Costa), I was recently recommended a great book by a colleague Machiavelli "The Prince" great read/stocking filler for Christmas Geteven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on December 22, 2014, 01:24:47 PM
You're so predictable ManinBlackandGreen, but like an irritating stutter or cough, we can just about live with it.

My deduction on the lawyer bit, I trust may be accurate with all those Latin references you refer to. But still a distinct possibility you are a nobody on the periphery of current developments.

Unlike I, just happy to encourage and embrace progress in our county and welcome the fact a parental body is in control of development at Casement. It will happen have no doubt.

Well, signing off now for a wee while, off on a cruise with her in doors and one of the offspring. Have a merry Xmas all and here's to a more promising new year in all Antrim fronts, on and off the field if play.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on December 22, 2014, 02:25:24 PM
geteven dont be fooled by mibag's quotes, sure any fool can google nowadays, even me lol

if u knew the history u wud understand where mibags bitterness towards county board & ulster gaa comes from, sure just look at his avatar!!
mibag i look forward to u making ur comeback, hard to keep a good ref down!

like yourself geteven & bannside & a few others, i always believe the glass is half full not half empty!

so i look forward to a great new year where we can do our talking on the field & slowly but surely off it also!!

have a good un!!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on December 23, 2014, 06:37:44 AM
Geteven & C11 its been a pleasure and a privilege thoroughly enjoyed the crac, C11 as brucie says Keeeeeep guessing.....  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 23, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
Happy christmas folks, hope you all have a good one.

i just spent a small fortune buying the new antrim home kits for the nephews. these tops are getting as popular to have now as the new soccer shirts are! lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 24, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 23, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
Happy christmas folks, hope you all have a good one.

i just spent a small fortune buying the new antrim home kits for the nephews. these tops are getting as popular to have now as the new soccer shirts are! lol.

O'Neills are rip off c***ts.

Happy Christmas everyone and sure we'll gurn like f**k again come 2015.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 24, 2014, 12:23:32 PM
Happy Christmas to all of you 😊

Not long now until the hurling starts. Antrim play DIT in the Walsh cup at Ballycastle on Saturday 11th January. I can't wait until the season throws in again, and it is just around the corner now!! 😊😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on December 28, 2014, 01:23:37 PM
Ah DeJesus, going aff the fcukin drink, that's it, No mas, Fin!

Happy New Year to ya all, very quiet these dark days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 04, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So Creggan kicks off with the football today.  I was informed all the football matches were going to be played at St. Pauls, Shaws Road?

Just back from my travels and well earned rest and looking forward to whatever the season brings for Antrim this year.  Hopefully, it will be a positive year with various semblances of progress, we live in hope.

Happy New Year to you all regardless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 05, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
match on sunday v DIT at st pauls is it?

be interesting to see where we are at this stage. the players have been training all over the winter in the gym so should be in a decent enough shape.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 05, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 05, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
match on sunday v DIT at st pauls is it?

be interesting to see where we are at this stage. the players have been training all over the winter in the gym so should be in a decent enough shape.

Then they are in decent shape for a gym.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 05, 2015, 11:14:43 AM
god this forum hasnt changed for the new year it seems lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 05, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 05, 2015, 11:14:43 AM
god this forum hasnt changed for the new year it seems lol

:) :) :)

I'm still surprised St Paul's got the go ahead to host the game?
Obviosu connection and new surface for the Minor Football tournament - but a horrible place to watch a game let alone park a car?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 05, 2015, 12:54:08 PM
i think its the only ground thats actually open for business. would it not of been better at the Dub?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 05, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.

if there was almost 2000 people yesterday at Creegan I will eat my hat, 250 people max and that's from someone who seen the second half. unless 1750 people walked out past me at half time I would say 250/300 max. but I do agree st pauls is a terrible venue for County games esp national league games. it may well be able to cope with the vast flux of people going to the DIT game but that would be about it. the wee man must be taking over already in prep for the big job next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 05, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
st pauls have gotten a national league game this year have they not? is it football or hurling?

i know ballycastle will have a double header for the football and hurling on one of the weekends
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2015, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 05, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.

if there was almost 2000 people yesterday at Creegan I will eat my hat, 250 people max and that's from someone who seen the second half. unless 1750 people walked out past me at half time I would say 250/300 max. but I do agree st pauls is a terrible venue for County games esp national league games. it may well be able to cope with the vast flux of people going to the DIT game but that would be about it. the wee man must be taking over already in prep for the big job next year.

Whats wrong with using Queens? great venue and facilities
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
Pitch is too short for hurling, no midfield!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on January 05, 2015, 03:52:18 PM
I'd say there was 400 - 500 there yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 05, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
I havent been in creggans pitch since playing there in the minor football and that was in the late 90's! whats it like to watch a match at, i cant rem a thing about the pitch.

is it the same as ahoghill with limited viewing options?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 05, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 05, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
I havent been in creggans pitch since playing there in the minor football and that was in the late 90's! whats it like to watch a match at, i cant rem a thing about the pitch.

is it the same as ahoghill with limited viewing options?

Creggan certainly a better option that St Paul's - as would Ahoghill.
The new pitch at the Dub is too short for Gaelic football let alone hurling - Fitzgibbon was played to top pitches.

Oh the farce in 2015 of a county scampering around for a pitch to play on!
And we all know why!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 05, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.

if there was almost 2000 people yesterday at Creegan I will eat my hat, 250 people max and that's from someone who seen the second half. unless 1750 people walked out past me at half time I would say 250/300 max. but I do agree st pauls is a terrible venue for County games esp national league games. it may well be able to cope with the vast flux of people going to the DIT game but that would be about it. the wee man must be taking over already in prep for the big job next year.

My apologies I had the 2000 figure in my head from a reply given to a question on the county guestbook. Quote copied below:

Name : big g30 December 2014
whats the capacity for st pauls ground for county games? great to see the football team back in belfast.

St Paul's have been able to cater up to around 2000 people at their Ulster Minor Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 06, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 05, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.

if there was almost 2000 people yesterday at Creegan I will eat my hat, 250 people max and that's from someone who seen the second half. unless 1750 people walked out past me at half time I would say 250/300 max. but I do agree st pauls is a terrible venue for County games esp national league games. it may well be able to cope with the vast flux of people going to the DIT game but that would be about it. the wee man must be taking over already in prep for the big job next year.

My apologies I had the 2000 figure in my head from a reply given to a question on the county guestbook. Quote copied below:

Name : big g30 December 2014
whats the capacity for st pauls ground for county games? great to see the football team back in belfast.

St Paul's have been able to cater up to around 2000 people at their Ulster Minor Final.

All is forgiven lol. I was wondering where you got 2000 from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2015, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 05, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I presume the DIT game has been changed to St Paul's because our Tarmac work isn't completed yet. The county can't be expecting a big crowd. There was almost 2000 at the McKenna Cup game V St Marys, St Paul's couldn't have coped with that surely? Where are spectators meant to park? St Paul's car park holds about 20 cars maximum. Only one side of the pitch available to spectators as well.

seen the pics there on the antrim gaa page of the work. looks a good job, was badly needed at that corner of the grounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 06, 2015, 03:01:54 PM
http://www.stpaulsgac.com
God help any one from dublin looking direction via at pauls website check this out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2015, 05:16:24 PM
thats just west belfast talk, us country yokes cant understand them! lol

their twitter page is more up to date tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2015, 11:03:56 PM
Don't bother coming  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 07, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2015, 11:03:56 PM
Don't bother coming  ;)

no aul odd chat will put me off  ;D

im heading up on sunday to watch this match, any idea as to what sort of team were likely to see? i assume KR will try alot of new people out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 07, 2015, 09:15:30 AM
Incident of Lamh Dearg lad losing an eye Vs Glenarm in court - front page of the Irish News this morning.
No matter what anyone's views of the incidents - it's not the sort of coverage we want to see!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 07, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
i read that this morning on the way into work. anyone know the details of what happened?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
So, as a result of the recent Croke Park quango (Hurling 2020 Committee) of which the Rauri Ogs - bald one, need I say more, was the only Ulster token representative, they are going to appoint a Full Time Director of Hurling.  Right now, some of you boyos should start updating your CV's and get the good suit pressed up.  ;D  6 Months and this is what they have come up with, along with a few proposals of no major significance.  Well, at least they did work hard on the Job Description, ffs, I ask you?   ::)

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA%20Hurling%202020%20Report.pdf

Page 41 - Appendix 3 – Director Of Hurling Job Description - and "they worked really hard on this" -  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 08, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
So, as a result of the recent Croke Park quango (Hurling 2020 Committee) of which the Rauri Ogs - bald one, need I say more, was the only Ulster token representative, they are going to appoint a Full Time Director of Hurling.  Right now, some of you boyos should start updating your CV's and get the good suit pressed up.  ;D  6 Months and this is what they have come up with, along with a few proposals of no major significance.  Well, at least they did work hard on the Job Description, ffs, I ask you?   ::)

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA%20Hurling%202020%20Report.pdf

Page 41 - Appendix 3 – Director Of Hurling Job Description - and "they worked really hard on this" -  :-[

A director of hurling after getting shot of Paudie Butler a couple of years back, I wonder who they've got in mind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2015, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
So, as a result of the recent Croke Park quango (Hurling 2020 Committee) of which the Rauri Ogs - bald one, need I say more, was the only Ulster token representative, they are going to appoint a Full Time Director of Hurling.  Right now, some of you boyos should start updating your CV's and get the good suit pressed up.  ;D  6 Months and this is what they have come up with, along with a few proposals of no major significance.  Well, at least they did work hard on the Job Description, ffs, I ask you?   ::)

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA%20Hurling%202020%20Report.pdf

Page 41 - Appendix 3 – Director Of Hurling Job Description - and "they worked really hard on this" -  :-[

A director of hurling after getting shot of Paudie Butler a couple of years back, I wonder who they've got in mind?

Neil McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 08, 2015, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2015, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
So, as a result of the recent Croke Park quango (Hurling 2020 Committee) of which the Rauri Ogs - bald one, need I say more, was the only Ulster token representative, they are going to appoint a Full Time Director of Hurling.  Right now, some of you boyos should start updating your CV's and get the good suit pressed up.  ;D  6 Months and this is what they have come up with, along with a few proposals of no major significance.  Well, at least they did work hard on the Job Description, ffs, I ask you?   ::)

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA%20Hurling%202020%20Report.pdf

Page 41 - Appendix 3 – Director Of Hurling Job Description - and "they worked really hard on this" -  :-[

A director of hurling after getting shot of Paudie Butler a couple of years back, I wonder who they've got in mind?

Neil McManus.

Is he not too busy managing Antrim senior hurlers at the minute?
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 08, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2015, 01:02:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 08, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
So, as a result of the recent Croke Park quango (Hurling 2020 Committee) of which the Rauri Ogs - bald one, need I say more, was the only Ulster token representative, they are going to appoint a Full Time Director of Hurling.  Right now, some of you boyos should start updating your CV's and get the good suit pressed up.  ;D  6 Months and this is what they have come up with, along with a few proposals of no major significance.  Well, at least they did work hard on the Job Description, ffs, I ask you?   ::)

http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/GAA%20Hurling%202020%20Report.pdf

Page 41 - Appendix 3 – Director Of Hurling Job Description - and "they worked really hard on this" -  :-[

A director of hurling after getting shot of Paudie Butler a couple of years back, I wonder who they've got in mind?

Neil McManus.

:D class lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Its funny cause its true ...right Sham?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Its funny cause its true ...right Sham?  ;D
100% Skull boy, he has apirations for North Antrim Chairman when JMcC vacates and TR (GnM) go along side wee Joe for the big one in Antrim next Year, mark my words  >:(.   Ffs only in Antrim, how is it we appear to have more n*bh****/as*h**** than most counties.

If ya ask me, for what its worth, we are feckin doomed for the bottom of the scrapheap, a perennial affliction it appears. Jaysus, is this what we truly deserve?  :( :o ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Its funny cause its true ...right Sham?  ;D
100% Skull boy, he has apirations for North Antrim Chairman when JMcC vacates and TR (GnM) go along side wee Joe for the big one in Antrim next Year, mark my words  >:(.   Ffs only in Antrim, how is it we appear to have more n*bh****/as*h**** than most counties.

If ya ask me, for what its worth, we are feckin doomed for the bottom of the scrapheap, a perennial affliction it appears. Jaysus, is this what we truly deserve?  :( :o ::)

Yes we deserve it. the clubs vote for county executive positions
Have you ever approached your club county delegate about the situation or is this just a dall bashing exercise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Its funny cause its true ...right Sham?  ;D
100% Skull boy, he has aspirations for North Antrim Chairman when JMcC vacates and TR (GnM) go along side wee Joe for the big one in Antrim next Year, mark my words  >:(.   Ffs only in Antrim, how is it we appear to have more n*bh****/as*h**** than most counties.

If ya ask me, for what its worth, we are feckin doomed for the bottom of the scrapheap, a perennial affliction it appears. Jaysus, is this what we truly deserve?  :( :o ::)
Yes we deserve it. the clubs vote for county executive positions
Have you ever approached your club county delegate about the situation or is this just a dall bashing exercise

Ah jaysus, dont tell me you are another paranoid Dall man?  Ffs, get a grip wud ya! ;D ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2015, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 09:54:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 08, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 08, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Its funny cause its true ...right Sham?  ;D
100% Skull boy, he has aspirations for North Antrim Chairman when JMcC vacates and TR (GnM) go along side wee Joe for the big one in Antrim next Year, mark my words  >:(.   Ffs only in Antrim, how is it we appear to have more n*bh****/as*h**** than most counties.

If ya ask me, for what its worth, we are feckin doomed for the bottom of the scrapheap, a perennial affliction it appears. Jaysus, is this what we truly deserve?  :( :o ::)
Yes we deserve it. the clubs vote for county executive positions
Have you ever approached your club county delegate about the situation or is this just a dall bashing exercise

Ah jaysus, dont tell me you are another paranoid Dall man?  Ffs, get a grip wud ya! ;D ::)

no i am a dunloy man so paranoia about the dall  is not a problem. but there does seem to be a pattern emerging from your camp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2015, 08:44:47 AM
theres an unhealthy paranoia between both camps. most of its based on hearsay at times which doesn't help either club or county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 09, 2015, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2015, 08:44:47 AM
theres an unhealthy paranoia between both camps. most of its based on hearsay at times which doesn't help either club or county.
Healthy rivalry perhaps? Sure no harm in that DR. Keeps us all competitive and focused. ;D :)

Good to see our talisman (EMcC) back in the fold for Sunday.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gaabellting on January 10, 2015, 09:55:22 AM
Any idea of team that will line out against DIT in first outing of the year for the hurlers? Will Kevin Ryan have a look at a lot of the newer lads. Looks a good opportunity to start year off with a win at home and final of this competition being played in croke park this year so it's a nice reward for players in what is a Mickey Mouse competition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 10, 2015, 12:28:06 PM
The team is named on the county website. A few of our stronger players on the bench. Not sure why N. McCauley is named at full back. Great to have Eddie Mccloskey back. We're still a bit short of real quality in too many positions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 10, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: Gaabellting on January 10, 2015, 09:55:22 AM
Any idea of team that will line out against DIT in first outing of the year for the hurlers? Will Kevin Ryan have a look at a lot of the newer lads. Looks a good opportunity to start year off with a win at home and final of this competition being played in croke park this year so it's a nice reward for players in what is a Mickey Mouse competition
No matter what way you look at it, its competition and very much what we need, each team still has to beat what is in front of them. Why would any team not like to win games and progress to a Final in Croker.  Jaysus sake, we have not been there in >25 years.  Any tournament or competition that gets us more games is most welcome, and good that Leinster Council so fit to include ourselves and Galway in it.  Ffs, get real man!  :o :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2015, 10:07:26 PM
Sure we won the christy ring in the noughties there too ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 10, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!


Off course I'll be hoping they do well, why wouldn't I? I've had my day in the sun, time they had a go at it, especially when their assistant coach is a former team mate and two of their main players da's were Ballygalget men whom I'd the pleasure of playing along side, albeit very young.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 10, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!


Off course I'll be hoping they do well, why wouldn't I? I've had my day in the sun, time they had a go at it, especially when their assistant coach is a former team mate and two of their main players da's were Ballygalget men whom I'd the pleasure of playing along side, albeit very young.

That sounds like "yes......... But......." ;)
How does the ballygalget connection go down with the locals on each side?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 11, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!
btdtgtt- I was referring to Antrim getting to an All Ireland Final - >25 yrs. Totally agree about Eddie, a rare talent there's no doubt.  Hopefully Eddie, Shorty and PJ will peg on a good tally of scores.

What's the story about "no senior semi final" - please elaborate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 11, 2015, 12:49:56 PM
Rem Christy Ring 2006
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 11, 2015, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 11, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!
btdtgtt- I was referring to Antrim getting to an All Ireland Final - >25 yrs. Totally agree about Eddie, a rare talent there's no doubt.  Hopefully Eddie, Shorty and PJ will peg on a good tally of scores.

What's the story about "no senior semi final" - please elaborate?

In antrim we can't be fussy about why we're at croke park sham!

I've always felt the attention put on Watson sometimes took away from McCloskey - he's a class act.

Semi-final? I just mean no club senior semi to watch this year with portaferry coming out of Ulster.
Anyone hear how rossa getting on in preparations?  I know they have played the local Uni's.

Antrim should runaway with 2nd half here at St pauls. If it's pre-season or the weather there is no difficulty catering for the "crowd".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 11, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
Antrim won 1-22 to 2-12.   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 11, 2015, 04:14:22 PM
Jonhston, McManus, Shorty and Eddie put in a good shift today.  McCrory and Clyde also showed well.  Hamill at top of the left was poor, but he is still young and a bit of filling out to do.  All in all, not a bad show for January, the pitch was in great shape, fair dues to St. Pauls.  A game of two halves really with the very strong breeze. McConnell made a great save all the same in the dying minutes. If that had of gone in, could have been a lot tighter finish.  Fair fcuks to the boyz, dug in and grinded out a result.  You cant ask for much more really.  :D

Interestingly, both penalties one on one were saved - (First half and 2nd half).  A bit ominous, when no gaols scored from penalties, still makes a good case for slapping it over the bar?  :-\

One on one , and striker having to hit it outside the 20, gives any keeper worth his salt, good odds in my book.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 11, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 10, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!


Off course I'll be hoping they do well, why wouldn't I? I've had my day in the sun, time they had a go at it, especially when their assistant coach is a former team mate and two of their main players da's were Ballygalget men whom I'd the pleasure of playing along side, albeit very young.

That sounds like "yes......... But......." ;)
How does the ballygalget connection go down with the locals on each side?

From my perspective I couldn't give a shit, Big BA has always played for the ports even if his Da played for us, cougie played for us up until minor and then fell out over a knee injury he got playing soccer and we refused to stump up for it. Shit happens and best of luck to both of them in February.

I played on the edge (and beyond) and been on the receiving end as well but don't go on and carry that shit on, lifes too short, so get on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2015, 11:37:11 PM
Well said JC. Ports deserve their day in the sun... Better team won on the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 12, 2015, 08:51:37 AM
never got to the game on sunday which was a pity as it looked a decent game by the reports. good to see Eddie back in the team again. thats def an impressive half forward line we named in Neil, eddie and shorty. they are prob the best 3 forwards in antrim at the moment and im looking forward to seeing how the 3 operate together.

Dublin in the next game is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 11, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 10, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Great to see McCloskey back - forwards like that are a rare breed.

25 years tho?
We beat dublin in HQ some years ago?
Albeit not a knockout game.

I see the Rossa intermediate game is fixed for mullingar - will make the trip to that.
No senior semi this year - I hope JC is supporting the ports however!


Off course I'll be hoping they do well, why wouldn't I? I've had my day in the sun, time they had a go at it, especially when their assistant coach is a former team mate and two of their main players da's were Ballygalget men whom I'd the pleasure of playing along side, albeit very young.

That sounds like "yes......... But......." ;)
How does the ballygalget connection go down with the locals on each side?

From my perspective I couldn't give a shit, Big BA has always played for the ports even if his Da played for us, cougie played for us up until minor and then fell out over a knee injury he got playing soccer and we refused to stump up for it. Shit happens and best of luck to both of them in February.

I played on the edge (and beyond) and been on the receiving end as well but don't go on and carry that shit on, lifes too short, so get on with it.

I wasn't aware that Cougie had played for Ballygalget at all!

I assume Ballygalget & Ballycran are separate parishes and Portaferry seen as a "townie" team?
How do the Ards clubs get on in general?
Healthy rivalry - or toxic? Maybe it depends on the individual people?

I think Portfarry's win also shows what championship is about - I would have put Ballycran as the strongest Down team in recent years and yet it's Portaferry who not only win Down but Ulser!

I'm sure they will bring a big support from the Ards but I can't see them getting as close as 'Galget id with newtownshandrum - although Kilmallock dont seem to have that pedigree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 09:57:15 AM
We're all different parishes although ourselves and Portaferry have the same PP.
There'd be youngsters living and going to school in Portaferry who'd come and play for us or Ballycran, normally due to family allegiances or what not and similarly there's a few youngsters in the Ballygalget primary school who play for Portaferry, probably for the same reasons.

As for the rivalry, its in the healthy phase at the minute and the win by Portaferry will spur ourselves and Ballycran in particular on who really have flattered to deceive come championship with a lack a real cutting edge in their forwards and TBH when I saw the fullforward line they put out in the championship I wondered HTF did they win the Antrim league! I think there's a bit of a fall out going on there and new management being sought if what I was told is correct.

It doesn't take much to push the relationships into the toxic phase either though!

The emergence of the two city clubs in Bredagh and Carryduff has really stirred the underage structures within all three Ards clubs, so that's a good thing IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 09:57:15 AM
We're all different parishes although ourselves and Portaferry have the same PP.
There'd be youngsters living and going to school in Portaferry who'd come and play for us or Ballycran, normally due to family allegiances or what not and similarly there's a few youngsters in the Ballygalget primary school who play for Portaferry, probably for the same reasons.

As for the rivalry, its in the healthy phase at the minute and the win by Portaferry will spur ourselves and Ballycran in particular on who really have flattered to deceive come championship with a lack a real cutting edge in their forwards and TBH when I saw the fullforward line they put out in the championship I wondered HTF did they win the Antrim league! I think there's a bit of a fall out going on there and new management being sought if what I was told is correct.

It doesn't take much to push the relationships into the toxic phase either though!

The emergence of the two city clubs in Bredagh and Carryduff has really stirred the underage structures within all three Ards clubs, so that's a good thing IMO.

Do they all play in Antrim or Down leagues?

Do you think they will bring them through to senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 12, 2015, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Do you think they will bring them through to senior?

No ...not in the right numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 09:57:15 AM
We're all different parishes although ourselves and Portaferry have the same PP.
There'd be youngsters living and going to school in Portaferry who'd come and play for us or Ballycran, normally due to family allegiances or what not and similarly there's a few youngsters in the Ballygalget primary school who play for Portaferry, probably for the same reasons.

As for the rivalry, its in the healthy phase at the minute and the win by Portaferry will spur ourselves and Ballycran in particular on who really have flattered to deceive come championship with a lack a real cutting edge in their forwards and TBH when I saw the fullforward line they put out in the championship I wondered HTF did they win the Antrim league! I think there's a bit of a fall out going on there and new management being sought if what I was told is correct.

It doesn't take much to push the relationships into the toxic phase either though!

The emergence of the two city clubs in Bredagh and Carryduff has really stirred the underage structures within all three Ards clubs, so that's a good thing IMO.

Do they all play in Antrim or Down leagues?

Do you think they will bring them through to senior?

Bredagh play in the Antrim leagues as well as field a reserve team in the Down leagues.

I could stand corrected on this but Carryduff have been refused entry into the Antrim leagues, not by Antrim but by Down CB, the same thing may have happened to Ballyvarley who played in Antrim last year.

It seems to be the CB's are pushing this Táin league in a big way, not sure of how successful it was last year, but when there was stuff on the Ulster Council web site about it, there looked to be quite a few unplayed games to be re-fixed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 12, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 09:57:15 AM
We're all different parishes although ourselves and Portaferry have the same PP.
There'd be youngsters living and going to school in Portaferry who'd come and play for us or Ballycran, normally due to family allegiances or what not and similarly there's a few youngsters in the Ballygalget primary school who play for Portaferry, probably for the same reasons.

As for the rivalry, its in the healthy phase at the minute and the win by Portaferry will spur ourselves and Ballycran in particular on who really have flattered to deceive come championship with a lack a real cutting edge in their forwards and TBH when I saw the fullforward line they put out in the championship I wondered HTF did they win the Antrim league! I think there's a bit of a fall out going on there and new management being sought if what I was told is correct.

It doesn't take much to push the relationships into the toxic phase either though!

The emergence of the two city clubs in Bredagh and Carryduff has really stirred the underage structures within all three Ards clubs, so that's a good thing IMO.

Do they all play in Antrim or Down leagues?

Do you think they will bring them through to senior?

Bredagh play in the Antrim leagues as well as field a reserve team in the Down leagues.

I could stand corrected on this but Carryduff have been refused entry into the Antrim leagues, not by Antrim but by Down CB, the same thing may have happened to Ballyvarley who played in Antrim last year.

It seems to be the CB's are pushing this Táin league in a big way, not sure of how successful it was last year, but when there was stuff on the Ulster Council web site about it, there looked to be quite a few unplayed games to be re-fixed.
A competition that isn't a bad idea but the geographical constraints for boys in Donegal or Strabane playing a team in Louth or even Down are unattractive no doubt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.

i always found the UHL a really good idea, meant clubs didn't have to organise challenge games, gave them games against teams of their own level with a proper neutral referee and gave teams a good platform for the league. I always remember a manager saying to me a game is as good as 20 training sessions and its something that has always stuck with me, i think too many managers and coaches now nearly see challenge games as an inconvenience to their pre season. I know especially in football this is what seen a lot of teams pull out of UL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.

i always found the UHL a really good idea, meant clubs didn't have to organise challenge games, gave them games against teams of their own level with a proper neutral referee and gave teams a good platform for the league. I always remember a manager saying to me a game is as good as 20 training sessions and its something that has always stuck with me, i think too many managers and coaches now nearly see challenge games as an inconvenience to their pre season. I know especially in football this is what seen a lot of teams pull out of UL

Football and hurling two different cases here, footballers could pretty much play in any conditions and doesnt really make that big a difference.

Hurlers do need the weather and the pitches to be in better shape to get anything out of any league, not often this was the case for the UHL.

Its a nice idea on paper but in reality it doesnt work really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.

i always found the UHL a really good idea, meant clubs didn't have to organise challenge games, gave them games against teams of their own level with a proper neutral referee and gave teams a good platform for the league. I always remember a manager saying to me a game is as good as 20 training sessions and its something that has always stuck with me, i think too many managers and coaches now nearly see challenge games as an inconvenience to their pre season. I know especially in football this is what seen a lot of teams pull out of UL

Football and hurling two different cases here, footballers could pretty much play in any conditions and doesnt really make that big a difference.

Hurlers do need the weather and the pitches to be in better shape to get anything out of any league, not often this was the case for the UHL.

Its a nice idea on paper but in reality it doesnt work really.

That was the early days of the Tain league and in that guise it worked well enough as a bit of a preseason run out, but then that changed to a full blown league meant to replace the domestic leagues in Down, Armagh, even Derry I presume as well as the rest.
It was to be the only show in town and this time last year there was to be no adult league hurling at all in Down, it was Antrim leagues for the Ards clubs and Bredagh and Táin league for everyone else. After a bit of a kick up that changed to having leagues and various smallish cup competitions.
Make no mistake about it, the Ulster council are going to sell this Táin league as a success no matter what even if teams are dropping out of it.
Certainly Carryduff's and Ballyvarleys hands are tied by the full time secretary in Down doing the bidding of his pay masters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.

i always found the UHL a really good idea, meant clubs didn't have to organise challenge games, gave them games against teams of their own level with a proper neutral referee and gave teams a good platform for the league. I always remember a manager saying to me a game is as good as 20 training sessions and its something that has always stuck with me, i think too many managers and coaches now nearly see challenge games as an inconvenience to their pre season. I know especially in football this is what seen a lot of teams pull out of UL

Football and hurling two different cases here, footballers could pretty much play in any conditions and doesnt really make that big a difference.

Hurlers do need the weather and the pitches to be in better shape to get anything out of any league, not often this was the case for the UHL.

Its a nice idea on paper but in reality it doesnt work really.

That was the early days of the Tain league and in that guise it worked well enough as a bit of a preseason run out, but then that changed to a full blown league meant to replace the domestic leagues in Down, Armagh, even Derry I presume as well as the rest.
It was to be the only show in town and this time last year there was to be no adult league hurling at all in Down, it was Antrim leagues for the Ards clubs and Bredagh and Táin league for everyone else. After a bit of a kick up that changed to having leagues and various smallish cup competitions.
Make no mistake about it, the Ulster council are going to sell this Táin league as a success no matter what even if teams are dropping out of it.
Certainly Carryduff's and Ballyvarleys hands are tied by the full time secretary in Down doing the bidding of his pay masters.

Of course they have to sell it as a success, name me one other Ulster inspired innovation for hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
I just heard that portaferry have to play their semi in Thurles. Unbelievable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 12, 2015, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
ive always found the ulster league a useful thing for senior teams. the only problem is the availability of pitches at this time of year. alot of clubs don't want to have their pitches torn up this early in the season. ours is only recovering from the flooding it got last august time after being re-drained.

i always found the UHL a really good idea, meant clubs didn't have to organise challenge games, gave them games against teams of their own level with a proper neutral referee and gave teams a good platform for the league. I always remember a manager saying to me a game is as good as 20 training sessions and its something that has always stuck with me, i think too many managers and coaches now nearly see challenge games as an inconvenience to their pre season. I know especially in football this is what seen a lot of teams pull out of UL

Football and hurling two different cases here, footballers could pretty much play in any conditions and doesnt really make that big a difference.

Hurlers do need the weather and the pitches to be in better shape to get anything out of any league, not often this was the case for the UHL.

Its a nice idea on paper but in reality it doesnt work really.

That was the early days of the Tain league and in that guise it worked well enough as a bit of a preseason run out, but then that changed to a full blown league meant to replace the domestic leagues in Down, Armagh, even Derry I presume as well as the rest.
It was to be the only show in town and this time last year there was to be no adult league hurling at all in Down, it was Antrim leagues for the Ards clubs and Bredagh and Táin league for everyone else. After a bit of a kick up that changed to having leagues and various smallish cup competitions.
Make no mistake about it, the Ulster council are going to sell this Táin league as a success no matter what even if teams are dropping out of it.
Certainly Carryduff's and Ballyvarleys hands are tied by the full time secretary in Down doing the bidding of his pay masters.

Of course they have to sell it as a success, name me one other Ulster inspired innovation for hurling?

The Ulster championship, no wait!  ::)

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
I just heard that portaferry have to play their semi in Thurles. Unbelievable!

Second class citizens I'm afraid.
Hurling development at its best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 12, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
both games are set for thurles.

total joke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 12, 2015, 05:33:49 PM
If the powers that be are putting up a few grand to cover the extra travel and accommodation costs of the team, I be happy enough with that arrangement. If not then ......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 12, 2015, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
both games are set for thurles.

total joke
Some Antrim referees would be delighted to get that fixture. Probably 7 - 8 times further than Owenbeg, Derry.  Bloody marvellous. ManinBlackandGreen or those if his ilk would jump at it. Horrendous decision for Portaferry though, diabolical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 12, 2015, 09:40:22 PM
Obviously in response to last year's hurling championship. joke!!!
Why don't they just pick who they would like as the 4 semi finalists.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

Maybe a stupid question but i take it its only senior? Either way it is disappointing, open draw always adds to the excitement, personally i was delighted to see galls get to a SHC final this year I'm sure it has boosted hurling in the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

I can't be bothered going through the archive but I predicted this as soon as the draw was made for last year's hurling championship!
That's not to say I'm against it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 12, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
Our county board just cannot leave structures alone! The beauty of Championship is the open draw and the chance for a small team causing an upset. To win the championship the so called big four have always had to win 2 games against the other seeded teams. That will still be the case, this nonsense just means we cannot meet each other until the semi finals. Just leave the bloody thing alone and do the hurling on the field. Can't see too many division 2 teams entering the senior championship in this format. Oh wait, they waited until the deadline for competition entries had passed before they announce the changes. So much for trying to improve the overall standard in Antrim by encouraging clubs to play at the higher level. You couldn't make it up lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2015, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 12, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
Our county board just cannot leave structures alone! The beauty of Championship is the open draw and the chance for a small team causing an upset. To win the championship the so called big four have always had to win 2 games against the other seeded teams. That will still be the case, this nonsense just means we cannot meet each other until the semi finals. Just leave the bloody thing alone and do the hurling on the field. Can't see too many division 2 teams entering the senior championship in this format. Oh wait, they waited until the deadline for competition entries had passed before they announce the changes. So much for trying to improve the overall standard in Antrim by encouraging clubs to play at the higher level. You couldn't make it up lol

Fair points.
Except given their championship record can Ballycastle really be included in a big4?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 12, 2015, 11:52:23 PM
I couldn't try and justify us being in the 4 seeds. Apparently the 4 semi finalists in 2015 will be next years (2016) 4 seeds. The drive behind this was nothing to do with hurling. The county lifted smaller championship gates this year, so want the bumper pay days of having the bigger semi finals and final. All about the dollar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2015, 12:03:52 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 12, 2015, 11:52:23 PM
I couldn't try and justify us being in the 4 seeds. Apparently the 4 semi finalists in 2015 will be next years (2016) 4 seeds. The drive behind this was nothing to do with hurling. The county lifted smaller championship gates this year, so want the bumper pay days of having the bigger semi finals and final. All about the dollar

Agreed. I do think it'll create a better championship but like you say it loses something with the open draw aspect and the real motivation is clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.
Mr DR, really, your are too much of a real realist, you really are.  ??? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 13, 2015, 10:58:23 AM
Money once again the drive over the principle of the thing. That's a very disappointing decision
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.
Mr DR, really, your are too much of a real realist, you really are.  ??? ::)
;D making life simple is how it show be. complications are just a nuisance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 13, 2015, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.

Last year think of the lift the championship draw would have given the unfancied teams, would have made life a lot easier for managers to get players to commit when they see a chance at a championship run and on the flip side should have given the likes of Dunloy, Shamrocks etc something to look forward to knowing the y had to hit the ground running in championship as they would be playing some of the best teams.

This year its going to kind of go against that 'weaker' teams might find it a bit more difficult to get the commitment as a championship run is less likely. Might be overstating the importance of an open draw but just smacks of looking out for the big clubs to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 13, 2015, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.
Mr DR, really, your are too much of a real realist, you really are.  ??? ::)
;D making life simple is how it show be. complications are just a nuisance

Its a catch 22 situation, actually the way the draw has fallen in the last few years has been pretty poor for the championship itself. Knowing that the stronger teams are more likely to be involved in the latter stages makes the whole season ramp up IMO.

Having one side of the draw heavily weighted does the competition no good whatsoever. The teams that take the competition and hurling development seriously and have done for the past 20/30 years are the seeded teams, dont think there can be any argument with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
Great thread lads - I have starting to doubt myself if the seeding idea I advocated is a good idea at all now! Some good points - maybe the next couple of years will prove one way or another.
And sure it's not like we do much tinkering with structures in Antrim hurling ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
lol there must be a thought process there at county board that if they keep changing every year eventually they will get it right, like doing a Rubik's cube!

ive always liked the open draw. i cursed the years lgiel got easy draws and we all called fix! (lol) and cursed our path which usually seemed to involve cushendall to get to a final but sure it was part and parcel of an open draw.

yes the seeding can give us (possibly) an easier path to a semi final then again it can open the possibility of a shock to happen. hopefully clooney, cloughmills etc stay in the senior championship as this is put in place for the foreseeable future.

draw is next week is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 13, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
The draw is on Monday night at Dunsilly hotel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
lol there must be a thought process there at county board that if they keep changing every year eventually they will get it right, like doing a Rubik's cube!

ive always liked the open draw. i cursed the years lgiel got easy draws and we all called fix! (lol) and cursed our path which usually seemed to involve cushendall to get to a final but sure it was part and parcel of an open draw.

yes the seeding can give us (possibly) an easier path to a semi final then again it can open the possibility of a shock to happen. hopefully clooney, cloughmills etc stay in the senior championship as this is put in place for the foreseeable future.

draw is next week is it not?
DR, now you are sounding like a bitter Dunloy man.  Championship is all about shocks and all about winning. So you think the open draw always favours the Shams, get a grip man!  An open draw is open, best way if you ask me, you takes your chances and if it does not work out, take it on the chin.  Ffs man, take a wisener.  ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
lol there must be a thought process there at county board that if they keep changing every year eventually they will get it right, like doing a Rubik's cube!

ive always liked the open draw. i cursed the years lgiel got easy draws and we all called fix! (lol) and cursed our path which usually seemed to involve cushendall to get to a final but sure it was part and parcel of an open draw.

yes the seeding can give us (possibly) an easier path to a semi final then again it can open the possibility of a shock to happen. hopefully clooney, cloughmills etc stay in the senior championship as this is put in place for the foreseeable future.

draw is next week is it not?
DR, now you are sounding like a bitter Dunloy man.  Championship is all about shocks and all about winning. So you think the open draw always favours the Shams, get a grip man!  An open draw is open, best way if you ask me, you takes your chances and if it does not work out, take it on the chin.  Ffs man, take a wisener.  ::) ???

best you read a post first before typing. note the lol in brackets.

:o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
lol there must be a thought process there at county board that if they keep changing every year eventually they will get it right, like doing a Rubik's cube!

ive always liked the open draw. i cursed the years lgiel got easy draws and we all called fix! (lol) and cursed our path which usually seemed to involve cushendall to get to a final but sure it was part and parcel of an open draw.

yes the seeding can give us (possibly) an easier path to a semi final then again it can open the possibility of a shock to happen. hopefully clooney, cloughmills etc stay in the senior championship as this is put in place for the foreseeable future.

draw is next week is it not?
DR, now you are sounding like a bitter Dunloy man.  Championship is all about shocks and all about winning. So you think the open draw always favours the Shams, get a grip man!  An open draw is open, best way if you ask me, you takes your chances and if it does not work out, take it on the chin.  Ffs man, take a wisener.  ::) ???

best you read a post first before typing. note the lol in brackets.

:o
with an 'Accent' on the lol DR?  Nah, come of it, who are you fooling.  Ur a bit of a 'cunning' individual I suppose??? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2015, 04:51:29 PM
eh im not a cunning. wrong surname  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 04:51:29 PM
eh im not a cunning. wrong surname  ;D ;)
Just a wild shot DR, no offence, just teasing.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 13, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
So if the senior championship is going to be seeded 1,2,3 and 4 from last seasons final league positions. Cushendall are 1, Loughgiel are 2, Dunloy are 3 and Ballycastle are 4.

If the quarter finals were to see no shocks, does the semi finals have 1 v 4 (Dall v Town) and 2 v3 (Shams v Dunloy)

Or does it then revert to an open draw again at semi final stage??? If they are using a seeding system you would think seedlings will follow all the way through the competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 13, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
So if the senior championship is going to be seeded 1,2,3 and 4 from last seasons final league positions. Cushendall are 1, Loughgiel are 2, Dunloy are 3 and Ballycastle are 4.

If the quarter finals were to see no shocks, does the semi finals have 1 v 4 (Dall v Town) and 2 v3 (Shams v Dunloy)

Or does it then revert to an open draw again at semi final stage??? If they are using a seeding system you would think seedlings will follow all the way through the competition?

If they are seeding then it really should be 1v2 and 3v4 - otherwise it's more a case of fixing the draw than genuinely seeding.
No surprise nobody seems to have thought of that but yet - or at least made it clear!
If it's true that the following year the 4 seeds would be this year's semi-finalists (no idea why this would be the case) then it raises the same question (ie) there is no seeds just a fixed draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 13, 2015, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 13, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 13, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
So if the senior championship is going to be seeded 1,2,3 and 4 from last seasons final league positions. Cushendall are 1, Loughgiel are 2, Dunloy are 3 and Ballycastle are 4.

If the quarter finals were to see no shocks, does the semi finals have 1 v 4 (Dall v Town) and 2 v3 (Shams v Dunloy)

Or does it then revert to an open draw again at semi final stage??? If they are using a seeding system you would think seedlings will follow all the way through the competition?

If they are seeding then it really should be 1v2 and 3v4 - otherwise it's more a case of fixing the draw than genuinely seeding.
No surprise nobody seems to have thought of that but yet - or at least made it clear!
If it's true that the following year the 4 seeds would be this year's semi-finalists (no idea why this would be the case) then it raises the same question (ie) there is no seeds just a fixed draw.

In any sport with seeds, it would be 1v4 and 2v3. Strongest seed always plays the weakest seed, (1v16 2v15 etc etc) with the aim being that the two strongest seeds don't meet each other until the final (1v2)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2015, 11:24:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 13, 2015, 11:13:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 13, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Im not sure if this relates to all the grades. judging by the voting there was 44 clubs voting on it so theres a chance it will be al the grades. i wasnt at the meeting, it was my father who was present at it so he was the one that told me the craic.

the seeding was always going to happen after last year. the gates were down and the county didnt make enough money. god forbid they would get less for one year to do nothing with it.

i had no problem in seeing any side get to the final esp someone who hadnt been there in a while but if truth be told it was one of the poorest championships in memory. our game v ballycastle was a damp squib, the same v cdall. cdall v lgiel should of been a cracker but it wasnt, st johns v lgiel was over at half time (i left with 15mins to go it was that bad) and the final wasnt up to much either.

was that the draws fault? no. should the teams be seeded to keep them apart until possibly the semi finals? no.

if we got lgiel in the first round i would be looking forward to it for weeks. yes we could crash out in the first round but if you want to win the vol cup you have to beat lgiel or cdall at some stage of the competition. thats how it should be.
Mr DR, really, your are too much of a real realist, you really are.  ??? ::)
;D making life simple is how it show be. complications are just a nuisance

Its a catch 22 situation, actually the way the draw has fallen in the last few years has been pretty poor for the championship itself. Knowing that the stronger teams are more likely to be involved in the latter stages makes the whole season ramp up IMO.

Having one side of the draw heavily weighted does the competition no good whatsoever. The teams that take the competition and hurling development seriously and have done for the past 20/30 years are the seeded teams, dont think there can be any argument with that.

NAG a one sided draw for the first time in 100 years ffs and you are looking it seeded because it happened last year!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?

Talking to a few people yesterday aggrieved that their club wasnt informed this was on the agenda for the meeting! Rail-roaded through?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 14, 2015, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?
The only thing that matters is the "Big 4". There's no money in the inter and junior levels. We just have to suck up the repercussions of what ever suits the top table. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

Maybe a stupid question but i take it its only senior? Either way it is disappointing, open draw always adds to the excitement, personally i was delighted to see galls get to a SHC final this year I'm sure it has boosted hurling in the club.

It boosted it so much they haven't even got a senior hurling manager this year - only in St Galls. Clooney Gaels will be the club with the real appetite this year. They'll be back with a vengance and hopefully they'll get a bit of luck in the draw.
I do agree with you on the open draw though - it's the only way to go. Names in a hat, draw them out and whoever is the best will win the championship. The history, passion and pride that's associated with our championship should not be compromised. Open draw - simples!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

Maybe a stupid question but i take it its only senior? Either way it is disappointing, open draw always adds to the excitement, personally i was delighted to see galls get to a SHC final this year I'm sure it has boosted hurling in the club.

It boosted it so much they haven't even got a senior hurling manager this year - only in St Galls. Clooney Gaels will be the club with the real appetite this year. They'll be back with a vengance and hopefully they'll get a bit of luck in the draw.
I do agree with you on the open draw though - it's the only way to go. Names in a hat, draw them out and whoever is the best will win the championship. The history, passion and pride that's associated with our championship should not be compromised. Open draw - simples!

Has Oliver Bellew packed it in? Why?

I don't think there was ever any doubt that getting to the senior final was ever going to be more than a day out.

No harm to MR2 and his preference for the wee ball, but big ball rules there. And if you don't win a final - then I'm not sure there's much more in it than the day out.
The Johnnies got there a couple of times in the 90s, and Cushendun also.
Does it really matter now?
For Galls I would have thought their victory against Dunloy would have been more of a spur to their potential than the day out for beating Clooney & Sarsfields.

However sadly, I dont see any team in the City putting up a challenge to the Big 3 (sorry Bonamargey!) or Ballycastle either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 14, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Strange how 24 clubs voted for this seeing as 100% of gaels on here would have voted it down. A cabal springs to mind

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 14, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Strange how 24 clubs voted for this seeing as 100% of gaels on here would have voted it down. A cabal springs to mind
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What would be you major objection to it be skull, just interested?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 14, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Strange how 24 clubs voted for this seeing as 100% of gaels on here would have voted it down. A cabal springs to mind

Excuse me there now NAG, just you hold on a minute ;) :) - but I did state a year ago that I was in favour of seeding!
I have not really changed that view - but a few comments on here have enlightened me as to the merits of the open draw!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 14, 2015, 10:29:50 AM
Hold on a second here, am i really seeing Lamh Dearg entering into JHC for this season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2015, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 14, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Strange how 24 clubs voted for this seeing as 100% of gaels on here would have voted it down. A cabal springs to mind

Excuse me there now NAG, just you hold on a minute ;) :) - but I did state a year ago that I was in favour of seeding!
I have not really changed that view - but a few comments on here have enlightened me as to the merits of the open draw!

Read up, you are quoting skull not me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

Maybe a stupid question but i take it its only senior? Either way it is disappointing, open draw always adds to the excitement, personally i was delighted to see galls get to a SHC final this year I'm sure it has boosted hurling in the club.

It boosted it so much they haven't even got a senior hurling manager this year - only in St Galls. Clooney Gaels will be the club with the real appetite this year. They'll be back with a vengance and hopefully they'll get a bit of luck in the draw.
I do agree with you on the open draw though - it's the only way to go. Names in a hat, draw them out and whoever is the best will win the championship. The history, passion and pride that's associated with our championship should not be compromised. Open draw - simples!

Has Oliver Bellew packed it in? Why?

I don't think there was ever any doubt that getting to the senior final was ever going to be more than a day out.

No harm to MR2 and his preference for the wee ball, but big ball rules there. And if you don't win a final - then I'm not sure there's much more in it than the day out.
The Johnnies got there a couple of times in the 90s, and Cushendun also.
Does it really matter now?
For Galls I would have thought their victory against Dunloy would have been more of a spur to their potential than the day out for beating Clooney & Sarsfields.

However sadly, I dont see any team in the City putting up a challenge to the Big 3 (sorry Bonamargey!) or Ballycastle either.
Yeah he's gone. Kevin Ryan has him now. Did well to get them into Div 1 and keep them there. Anything less than a county final appearance would have been deemed a failure, but they got there and competed.

You're 100% right. There'll be no challenge from the City for some time. The only chance would be an outside manager taking St Johns. Someone with no ties and wasnt prepared to be influenced by clubmen. They'd upset one of the big 3 but unfortunately wouldnt have enough to go all the way.
Ballycastle are a sleeping giant at the minute. With the likes of Clarkie, Stoogie and Saul up front they could be a scoring machine. I don't know if Humpy is the right man for that job though - but could prove me wrong.

Other than that it's up to Dunloy to upset the apple cart. There hasnt been much coming through the ranks for a right few years but with Woody hurling the way he is at the back and Shorty for one up front - maybe!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 14, 2015, 10:46:39 AM
Any agreement on relegation/Promotion between Div1 and Div2 now that its going to an 8 team Div1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?

Talking to a few people yesterday aggrieved that their club wasnt informed this was on the agenda for the meeting! Rail-roaded through?
yeah it seems that way, my dad was there for a finance meeting and then came home to inform me of this seeding! all the entries for the 2015 championships had to be in for the 12th, nicely in time for that meeting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 14, 2015, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 14, 2015, 10:13:23 AM
Strange how 24 clubs voted for this seeing as 100% of gaels on here would have voted it down. A cabal springs to mind

Excuse me there now NAG, just you hold on a minute ;) :) - but I did state a year ago that I was in favour of seeding!
I have not really changed that view - but a few comments on here have enlightened me as to the merits of the open draw!

Read up, you are quoting skull not me

FULL APOLOGY NAG!
You heard me anyway Skull ;) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 11:37:01 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?

Talking to a few people yesterday aggrieved that their club wasnt informed this was on the agenda for the meeting! Rail-roaded through?
yeah it seems that way, my dad was there for a finance meeting and then came home to inform me of this seeding! all the entries for the 2015 championships had to be in for the 12th, nicely in time for that meeting!

It seems the modus operandi hasn't learned much since the Casement debacle - but still - the clubs tolerate so ce la vie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on January 14, 2015, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 12, 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Te championship in both football and hurling is to be seeded this year. It was voted in 24-20 in favour of it as the meeting the night.

Top seeds in football are st galls, cargin, St. John's and Rossa.

Top hurling seeds are loughgiel, cushendall, dunloy and ballycastle.

This should make for some debating!

Maybe a stupid question but i take it its only senior? Either way it is disappointing, open draw always adds to the excitement, personally i was delighted to see galls get to a SHC final this year I'm sure it has boosted hurling in the club.

It boosted it so much they haven't even got a senior hurling manager this year - only in St Galls. Clooney Gaels will be the club with the real appetite this year. They'll be back with a vengance and hopefully they'll get a bit of luck in the draw.
I do agree with you on the open draw though - it's the only way to go. Names in a hat, draw them out and whoever is the best will win the championship. The history, passion and pride that's associated with our championship should not be compromised. Open draw - simples!

Has Oliver Bellew packed it in? Why?

I don't think there was ever any doubt that getting to the senior final was ever going to be more than a day out.

No harm to MR2 and his preference for the wee ball, but big ball rules there. And if you don't win a final - then I'm not sure there's much more in it than the day out.
The Johnnies got there a couple of times in the 90s, and Cushendun also.
Does it really matter now?
For Galls I would have thought their victory against Dunloy would have been more of a spur to their potential than the day out for beating Clooney & Sarsfields.

However sadly, I dont see any team in the City putting up a challenge to the Big 3 (sorry Bonamargey!) or Ballycastle either.
Yeah he's gone. Kevin Ryan has him now. Did well to get them into Div 1 and keep them there. Anything less than a county final appearance would have been deemed a failure, but they got there and competed.

You're 100% right. There'll be no challenge from the City for some time. The only chance would be an outside manager taking St Johns. Someone with no ties and wasnt prepared to be influenced by clubmen. They'd upset one of the big 3 but unfortunately wouldnt have enough to go all the way.
Ballycastle are a sleeping giant at the minute. With the likes of Clarkie, Stoogie and Saul up front they could be a scoring machine. I don't know if Humpy is the right man for that job though - but could prove me wrong.

Other than that it's up to Dunloy to upset the apple cart. There hasnt been much coming through the ranks for a right few years but with Woody hurling the way he is at the back and Shorty for one up front - maybe!!!!!

Ollie Bellew with Kevin Ryan? Not sure on his qualification for the role! Great guy but not sure anothe county would have appointed him on any basis - but then its doesnt matter much since Ryan will do his own thing with McManus - maybe nice just to have a city accent aroung.

Unfortunately I dont see the Johnnies pushing at all.
Their succesful minor teams have little of no chance at senior level. Usual story.
From what I saw of them last year against the other city teams they were little better.

Ballycastle have been a sleeping giant for so long now - when was their last final appearance let alone win it? I think them winning the Volunteer Cup would be a real shock. I have posted a few times might seem over-critical of them - no harm intended and I would love to see them shake the Big 3 up some!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2015, 12:05:55 PM
at this moment i wouldn't class ourselves as big anything after last season. i see it more as a top 2 in cushendall and loughgiel with ourselves, ballycastle on the edges.

2001 was their last final against ourselves and the last win was 1986. that's an awful long time for a club with such a great hurling tradition. great players at the moment in neil mcauley, stoogie, saul etc but for some reason come championship they just don't do it.

in this past 6 odd years they have ran into ourselves and lost 3 times. they need a first round win under their belt to get some sort of momentum going. they def have the players to win a championship its just translating it into success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 12:05:55 PM
at this moment i wouldn't class ourselves as big anything after last season. i see it more as a top 2 in cushendall and loughgiel with ourselves, ballycastle on the edges.

2001 was their last final against ourselves and the last win was 1986. that's an awful long time for a club with such a great hurling tradition. great players at the moment in neil mcauley, stoogie, saul etc but for some reason come championship they just don't do it.

in this past 6 odd years they have ran into ourselves and lost 3 times. they need a first round win under their belt to get some sort of momentum going. they def have the players to win a championship its just translating it into success.

Agree fully.
So many posts today - I was supposed to be working in Derry City!
The good old Glenshane!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
haha snow day!

i didnt even try to drive to belfast today to work, hoped onto the train and slept on the way there and looked at the snow instead!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 14, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 08:50:05 AM
the fact it was voted 24-20 shows how tight it was at mondays meeting.

does anyone know if it means the senior championships only in both codes or is it the intermediate and junior also?

Talking to a few people yesterday aggrieved that their club wasnt informed this was on the agenda for the meeting! Rail-roaded through?

The voting system plays into the hands of the bigger clubs. It is not one vote per club at congress and county meetings. The bigger the membership you have the more delegates/votes you have at county meetings. I am not sure of exact numbers but loughgiel/Ballycastle/Cushendall/Dunloy with the biggest memberships could have 5 delegates/votes each, whereas Cushendun/Carey/Clooney could have 2 votes and down the leagues the smallest clubs could only have one vote for their club. If the big clubs knew about the vote in advance and brought all their delegates to the meeting it was job done and was always going to be passed. cloak and dagger!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on January 14, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
Each club had one vote...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 14, 2015, 03:15:33 PM
I see in the county website that only 8 teams decided to enter the Senior championship this year. Cloughmills and Sarsfields in the intermediate this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2015, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 14, 2015, 03:15:33 PM
I see in the county website that only 8 teams decided to enter the Senior championship this year. Cloughmills and Sarsfields in the intermediate this season.

So the 4 seeds play St galls johnnies rossa & clooney.
All that's left to be decided is who plays who in the semis?
St John's Ballycastle may seem closest possible chance of a shock - but in championship I wouldn't give the johnnies a chance.

Neutral venues at quarters?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
whos Clan na nGael and st patricks in the U21 hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 14, 2015, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 14, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
whos Clan na nGael and st patricks in the U21 hurling?

Naomh Padraig is Armoy, Cushendun and Carey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 14, 2015, 04:16:32 PM
I think St Patricks could be C'Dun, Armoy & Carey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 14, 2015, 04:21:30 PM
Yep St Patrick's is Carey, Armoy and Cushendun at underage. Glenshesk is now gone as they hadn't enough players to field at younger age groups, so needed Cushendun as well to be able to field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on January 14, 2015, 05:59:59 PM
Think Clann na NGael are supposed to be for the Football. I think not 100% sure that its Eire Og, St Agnes, Lisburn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 08:51:10 AM
from further noseying of Mondays meeting it was indeed what people had though why it was seeded. the county didn't want a scenario like last year happening again where all the 'top' teams ended up in one side of the draw leaving too many poorly attended games. yes they made money at the bigger games like Cdall v lgiel, dunloy v ballycastle and the  dunloy v cushendall semi final but the other games were not as well attended.

its a bit of a poor reason to seed it but thats what we voted for. interestingly ballycastle didn't vote for it even tho they would be seeded. we did vote for it tho they didnt care if it passed or not and were happy either way.

another point is that it wont be necessarily 1v4 and 2v3 for the semi finals if all the top seeds get through the quarter finals. those are going to be drawn out as well. so you could have dunloy v loughgiel or cushendall v loughgiel in the semi should they progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 08:51:10 AM
from further noseying of Mondays meeting it was indeed what people had though why it was seeded. the county didn't want a scenario like last year happening again where all the 'top' teams ended up in one side of the draw leaving too many poorly attended games. yes they made money at the bigger games like Cdall v lgiel, dunloy v ballycastle and the  dunloy v cushendall semi final but the other games were not as well attended.

its a bit of a poor reason to seed it but thats what we voted for. interestingly ballycastle didn't vote for it even tho they would be seeded. we did vote for it tho they didnt care if it passed or not and were happy either way.

another point is that it wont be necessarily 1v4 and 2v3 for the semi finals if all the top seeds get through the quarter finals. those are going to be drawn out as well. so you could have dunloy v loughgiel or cushendall v loughgiel in the semi should they progress.

I just think that if they are going to bite the bullet and seed teams - then it's easiest to rank them 1,2,3 &4 from the previous year's league.
Adds the bonus of giving the league some impetus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 15, 2015, 09:14:24 AM
Fair play to Ballycastle for taking a stance - good sporting ethics.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 09:18:37 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 08:51:10 AM
from further noseying of Mondays meeting it was indeed what people had though why it was seeded. the county didn't want a scenario like last year happening again where all the 'top' teams ended up in one side of the draw leaving too many poorly attended games. yes they made money at the bigger games like Cdall v lgiel, dunloy v ballycastle and the  dunloy v cushendall semi final but the other games were not as well attended.

its a bit of a poor reason to seed it but thats what we voted for. interestingly ballycastle didn't vote for it even tho they would be seeded. we did vote for it tho they didnt care if it passed or not and were happy either way.

another point is that it wont be necessarily 1v4 and 2v3 for the semi finals if all the top seeds get through the quarter finals. those are going to be drawn out as well. so you could have dunloy v loughgiel or cushendall v loughgiel in the semi should they progress.

I just think that if they are going to bite the bullet and seed teams - then it's easiest to rank them 1,2,3 &4 from the previous year's league.
Adds the bonus of giving the league some impetus.

that will happen for next season. the positions in the league this year will determine who will be seeded. so it should in theory make the league more competitive this year.

thats assuming its not changed again lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Lámh Dhearg in Junior Hurling Championship I must say im not amused >:(. it was no more than two years ago they were putting proposals in to county to stay in Div2 and avoid relegation. now a self imposed relegation into the Junior Hurling Championship. Must be desperate for a worthwhile presentation night. I Really Really hope they don't win it and are exiled there for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
would glenravel not have moved up to the intermediate after winning junior and reaching the ulster final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
would glenravel not have moved up to the intermediate after winning junior and reaching the ulster final?

They are in Intermediate according to county web. they are second team down I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Lámh Dhearg in Junior Hurling Championship I must say im not amused >:(. it was no more than two years ago they were putting proposals in to county to stay in Div2 and avoid relegation. now a self imposed relegation into the Junior Hurling Championship. Must be desperate for a worthwhile presentation night. I Really Really hope they don't win it and are exiled there for the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't be so harsh. They've lost a few players and the senior side of the club is going through a difficult time.
Last year was poor with the big ball also as a result.
Their emphasis this year will be on regaining their level at football - an agenda which will affect the hurlers. Therefore Junior might be the place for them- after all if they are division three then that's their preogative.
Hopefully winning at Junior (if the even do) will help them build with the wee ball again.
Thats said, talking to some of them they are not optimistic for the future of hurling at the club at all. So Junior might have been on the horizon regardless.
Lamhs have merged with other clubs on several occasions at underage hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 10:19:08 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:58:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
would glenravel not have moved up to the intermediate after winning junior and reaching the ulster final?

They are in Intermediate according to county web. they are second team down I think

ah spot on. i just read it again and realised they are in the junior football. i read the wrong list.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Lámh Dhearg in Junior Hurling Championship I must say im not amused >:(. it was no more than two years ago they were putting proposals in to county to stay in Div2 and avoid relegation. now a self imposed relegation into the Junior Hurling Championship. Must be desperate for a worthwhile presentation night. I Really Really hope they don't win it and are exiled there for the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't be so harsh. They've lost a few players and the senior side of the club is going through a difficult time.
Last year was poor with the big ball also as a result.
Their emphasis this year will be on regaining their level at football - an agenda which will affect the hurlers. Therefore Junior might be the place for them- after all if they are division three then that's their preogative.
Hopefully winning at Junior (if the even do) will help them build with the wee ball again.
Thats said, talking to some of them they are not optimistic for the future of hurling at the club at all. So Junior might have been on the horizon regardless.
Lamhs have merged with other clubs on several occasions at underage hurling.

I usually find myself agreeing with you but I cant bring myself to on this occasion. maybe im just fed up with this recurring theme each year in hurling and football of teams cherry picking their championships. on too many occasions teams are dropping down to a lower grade to 'take a year to build' . on most occasions these teams are far too strong for others in the competition to compete and their success is to the disheartening and detriment of the other clubs in that grade. maybe this is just an overall frustration with me and im giving Lámh Dhearg the shitty end of the stick (the straw that broke the Camel's back ;D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 15, 2015, 11:29:38 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Lámh Dhearg in Junior Hurling Championship I must say im not amused >:(. it was no more than two years ago they were putting proposals in to county to stay in Div2 and avoid relegation. now a self imposed relegation into the Junior Hurling Championship. Must be desperate for a worthwhile presentation night. I Really Really hope they don't win it and are exiled there for the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't be so harsh. They've lost a few players and the senior side of the club is going through a difficult time.
Last year was poor with the big ball also as a result.
Their emphasis this year will be on regaining their level at football - an agenda which will affect the hurlers. Therefore Junior might be the place for them- after all if they are division three then that's their preogative.
Hopefully winning at Junior (if the even do) will help them build with the wee ball again.
Thats said, talking to some of them they are not optimistic for the future of hurling at the club at all. So Junior might have been on the horizon regardless.
Lamhs have merged with other clubs on several occasions at underage hurling.

I usually find myself agreeing with you but I cant bring myself to on this occasion. maybe im just fed up with this recurring theme each year in hurling and football of teams cherry picking their championships. on too many occasions teams are dropping down to a lower grade to 'take a year to build' . on most occasions these teams are far too strong for others in the competition to compete and their success is to the disheartening and detriment of the other clubs in that grade. maybe this is just an overall frustration with me and im giving Lámh Dhearg the shitty end of the stick (the straw that broke the Camel's back ;D)

would it be seen as an achievement for LD to win a JHC? I don't think so, they are in a no win situation, if they do win it it'll be a case of 'sure you're too good for it anyway' and if they don't win it'll be a case of people poking fun at them. Seriously, far far too big a club to be playing JHC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
it seems to be a re-occurring theme in hurling where teams drop down due to a lack of success for a number of years. st johns and rossa have done it and received the same criticism for doing so.

some times you have to drop a grade, our hurlers at under age have played B grade a few times due to a lack of numbers at that age. getting a hammering each week does no one any use at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
it seems to be a re-occurring theme in hurling where teams drop down due to a lack of success for a number of years. st johns and rossa have done it and received the same criticism for doing so.

some times you have to drop a grade, our hurlers at under age have played B grade a few times due to a lack of numbers at that age. getting a hammering each week does no one any use at all.

But what would be 'Genuine Junior clubs' getting a hammering from the clubs dropping down to give their players a lift does those clubs no good. so where does the cycle end. my real point on the matter is that it is the Lowest clubs on the ladder get shit on by the process of picking your own championship. this is more the case with potential Ulster and All Ireland runs for the winners of the Antrim club Championships.

and before anyone says 'get your house in order and get up to a higher standard' which has been said to me before. I would say the same to the clubs dropping down. the only clubs that cant drop to a lower grade to stop getting the tankings and breed some young blood are the junior clubs and its just not helped by the filter down process of bigger clubs dropping in when it suits them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
it seems to be a re-occurring theme in hurling where teams drop down due to a lack of success for a number of years. st johns and rossa have done it and received the same criticism for doing so.

some times you have to drop a grade, our hurlers at under age have played B grade a few times due to a lack of numbers at that age. getting a hammering each week does no one any use at all.

But what would be 'Genuine Junior clubs' getting a hammering from the clubs dropping down to give their players a lift does those clubs no good. so where does the cycle end. my real point on the matter is that it is the Lowest clubs on the ladder get shit on by the process of picking your own championship. this is more the case with potential Ulster and All Ireland runs for the winners of the Antrim club Championships.

and before anyone says 'get your house in order and get up to a higher standard' which has been said to me before. I would say the same to the clubs dropping down. the only clubs that cant drop to a lower grade to stop getting the tankings and breed some young blood are the junior clubs and its just not helped by the filter down process of bigger clubs dropping in when it suits them.

i agree totally with you here. i dont think it serves anyone any good in the long run. rossa had that intermediate won in everyone's eyes before the championship started hence why it wasnt seen as any great achievement by most in antrim hurling. winning ulster was a must for them after that and i wish them well in their semi final.

i dont think it does a club any good at all. my own club had a big fat zero championships up until 1990 yet each year they persevered at senior level always hoping they could win it. Ballycastle are now 29 years from winning a senior championship you wouldnt see them consider intermediate.

LD are not a junior club, they shouldnt be in that championship at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 15, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 15, 2015, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2015, 11:41:23 AM
it seems to be a re-occurring theme in hurling where teams drop down due to a lack of success for a number of years. st johns and rossa have done it and received the same criticism for doing so.

some times you have to drop a grade, our hurlers at under age have played B grade a few times due to a lack of numbers at that age. getting a hammering each week does no one any use at all.

But what would be 'Genuine Junior clubs' getting a hammering from the clubs dropping down to give their players a lift does those clubs no good. so where does the cycle end. my real point on the matter is that it is the Lowest clubs on the ladder get shit on by the process of picking your own championship. this is more the case with potential Ulster and All Ireland runs for the winners of the Antrim club Championships.

and before anyone says 'get your house in order and get up to a higher standard' which has been said to me before. I would say the same to the clubs dropping down. the only clubs that cant drop to a lower grade to stop getting the tankings and breed some young blood are the junior clubs and its just not helped by the filter down process of bigger clubs dropping in when it suits them.

i agree totally with you here. i dont think it serves anyone any good in the long run. rossa had that intermediate won in everyone's eyes before the championship started hence why it wasnt seen as any great achievement by most in antrim hurling. winning ulster was a must for them after that and i wish them well in their semi final.

i dont think it does a club any good at all. my own club had a big fat zero championships up until 1990 yet each year they persevered at senior level always hoping they could win it. Ballycastle are now 29 years from winning a senior championship you wouldnt see them consider intermediate.

LD are not a junior club, they shouldnt be in that championship at all.

You make great points, the main thing is 'being competitive' LD would no doubt be competitive in IHC this is where my problem lies. Not everyone can win a championship, only one team at each grade can. The example you make sums up the difference in mentality in some clubs, instead of dropping down and taking the easy option, put the head down plug away, take the disapointing first round exits time and time again and then when eventually you do win it the victory will be even sweeter. Its not that long ago LD were in an IHC final so its not like they've been getting hammered every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 01:00:18 PM
All fine points and I agree with many of the sentiments - but the Lamhs will say that the argument is not with them.

The rules and structures pemit them to enter Junior - since they have been relegated to Divsion 3.
Their agenda is to do what they deem best for themselves - not to worry about what we think is best for the championships overall.

If it's to "re-build", or win a handy championship, or a genuine reflection of their level - time will tell.

But I think the arguments put forward are issues for rules and structures - not Lamh Dearg.
If they win (like St Johns & Rossa) time will tell how highly it's regarded it or if they carry through the so called "re-build" to the next level.

For what it's worth my biggest concern after talking to some of their lads is the future of hurling in hannahsown full stop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 15, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.
And other than ourselves (Shams) and Creggan, no other club has claimed the AI club spoils!!!

All roads to victory are paved with disappointment, failures and casualties.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 15, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
In hurling anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2015, 03:27:16 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 15, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.
And other than ourselves (Shams) and Creggan, no other club has claimed the AI club spoils!!!

All roads to victory are paved with disappointment, failures and casualties.  ;) ;D
>:( ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 15, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.

To my mind they're a good thing, but Antrim really need to come up with a hard and fast criteria for championship levels, probably based on the results from the previous year. league and championship.

If you win the junior you're automatically intermediate the next year or x number of years, and so on.

I'm not sure if you could work it that all Div4 and Div3 teams are junior and Div2 intermediate, unless the point above comes into play as there's never really been a stable league structure in Antrim for as long as I can remember, far too quick to change things for a problem that won't be so resolved by changing a league that needs to mean more than it currently does!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 15, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.
And other than ourselves (Shams) and Creggan, no other club has claimed the AI club spoils!!!

All roads to victory are paved with disappointment, failures and casualties.  ;) ;D

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 15, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Lamh Dhearg probably think they will get a handy Ulster. They wont though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 15, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 15, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.

To my mind they're a good thing, but Antrim really need to come up with a hard and fast criteria for championship levels, probably based on the results from the previous year. league and championship.

If you win the junior you're automatically intermediate the next year or x number of years, and so on.

I'm not sure if you could work it that all Div4 and Div3 teams are junior and Div2 intermediate, unless the point above comes into play as there's never really been a stable league structure in Antrim for as long as I can remember, far too quick to change things for a problem that won't be so resolved by changing a league that needs to mean more than it currently does!

This is exactly the way it is!!! Division one is senior, 2 intermediate, 3 junior and 4 Junior B. Lamh Dhearg are in division 3 and are entitled to play junior chmpionship. They were relegated from division 2 at the end of 2013, played division 3 last year and were not strong enough to finish in the top two to be promoted to division 2. You can elect to play up a grade of championship if you wish, but not down a grade. On this occasion Lamh Dhearg have decided to play the championship which is their own level. What is the problem with that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 15, 2015, 05:02:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 15, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.
To my mind they're a good thing, but Antrim really need to come up with a hard and fast criteria for championship levels, probably based on the results from the previous year. league and championship.

If you win the junior you're automatically intermediate the next year or x number of years, and so on.

I'm not sure if you could work it that all Div4 and Div3 teams are junior and Div2 intermediate, unless the point above comes into play as there's never really been a stable league structure in Antrim for as long as I can remember, far too quick to change things for a problem that won't be so resolved by changing a league that needs to mean more than it currently does!
couldnae agree more. Ffs, some of ye need ta chillax!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on January 15, 2015, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 15, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 15, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.

To my mind they're a good thing, but Antrim really need to come up with a hard and fast criteria for championship levels, probably based on the results from the previous year. league and championship.

If you win the junior you're automatically intermediate the next year or x number of years, and so on.

I'm not sure if you could work it that all Div4 and Div3 teams are junior and Div2 intermediate, unless the point above comes into play as there's never really been a stable league structure in Antrim for as long as I can remember, far too quick to change things for a problem that won't be so resolved by changing a league that needs to mean more than it currently does!

This is exactly the way it is!!! Division one is senior, 2 intermediate, 3 junior and 4 Junior B. Lamh Dhearg are in division 3 and are entitled to play junior chmpionship. They were relegated from division 2 at the end of 2013, played division 3 last year and were not strong enough to finish in the top two to be promoted to division 2. You can elect to play up a grade if championship if you wish, but not down a grade. On this occasion Lamh Dhearg have decided to play the championship which is their own level. What is the problem with that?

Well if that was infact the way it was i don't think anyone would have a problem but the fact that in div 3 Glenravel, Endas, Tir Na Nog all playing IHC kinda changes things. if these sides were in JHC and that was set out at the start of the year i would fully support that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 15, 2015, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on January 15, 2015, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 15, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 15, 2015, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 15, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
The All Ireland Intermediate and Junior is a really driving factor for clubs.

To my mind they're a good thing, but Antrim really need to come up with a hard and fast criteria for championship levels, probably based on the results from the previous year. league and championship.

If you win the junior you're automatically intermediate the next year or x number of years, and so on.

I'm not sure if you could work it that all Div4 and Div3 teams are junior and Div2 intermediate, unless the point above comes into play as there's never really been a stable league structure in Antrim for as long as I can remember, far too quick to change things for a problem that won't be so resolved by changing a league that needs to mean more than it currently does!

This is exactly the way it is!!! Division one is senior, 2 intermediate, 3 junior and 4 Junior B. Lamh Dhearg are in division 3 and are entitled to play junior chmpionship. They were relegated from division 2 at the end of 2013, played division 3 last year and were not strong enough to finish in the top two to be promoted to division 2. You can elect to play up a grade or more than one grade up in championship if you wish, but not down a grade.

On this occasion Lamh Dhearg have decided to play the championship which is their own level at Junior.  What is the problem with that?

Well if that was infact the way it was i don't think anyone would have a problem but the fact that in div 3 Glenravel, Endas, Tir Na Nog all playing IHC kinda changes things. if these sides were in JHC and that was set out at the start of the year i would fully support that

For the first time in a number of years none of the division 2 teams have elected to play up a level at senior championship.

Teams are allowed to enter any championship at their own level (determined by you league) or  any championship above. Glenravel, St Endas and Randalstown have decided this year to play above their level by entering intermediate (they didn't have to as they are Junior level) There was nothing stopping Glenravel, St Endas, Randalstown or any team from divisions 2,3 or 4 from entering the Senior championship if they wished to do so. You just are not allowed to enter a lower grade, so a division one team cannot enter the intermediate if they decided they wanted to pick up an easy trophy for the dinner dance.

Lamh Dhearg have decided to not go up to a level above them. Their choice, no problem in my book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 15, 2015, 06:05:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)

We are a dual club 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)

When was that ?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)

When was that ?  :)

Can't be exact on the years but your boys have definitely jumped between intermediate & senior in recent years.
I've no problem with that - just making the point it's ridiculous to suggest this is a belfast thing.
The same good now be said of cloughmills.
They could enter senior again if they wished - but chose intermediate as in division 2 - fair enough.

It's no different for the johnnies or rossa or Lamh dearg.
If their ability has them dropping down a league - then they are entitled to drop down a championship - like glenarrife & cloughmills - the point is it's not a city thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:36:34 PM
Agreed HS.
And St John's were in the same position when they dropped down - as are Lamh Dearg.
Again - I'm just making the point it's not a city thing!

The guidelines are fine I think.
Playing up a grade is a clubs perogative and doesn't affect anyone else - and nobody can play down unless they drop a league - in which case it's a fair reflection.

There will always be teams thought of as too good or traditionally in a higher championship - but we must realise that's the same in every county and there's no golden system where everyone fits the right championship in everyone's opinion.

To borrow a quote from ground gaelic - it's a results business.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)

When was that ?  :)

Can't be exact on the years but your boys have definitely jumped between intermediate & senior in recent years.
I've no problem with that - just making the point it's ridiculous to suggest this is a belfast thing.
The same good now be said of cloughmills.
They could enter senior again if they wished - but chose intermediate as in division 2 - fair enough.

It's no different for the johnnies or rossa or Lamh dearg.
If their ability has them dropping down a league - then they are entitled to drop down a championship - like glenarrife & cloughmills - the point is it's not a city thing.

I could be wrong but last years appearance in the Intermediate championship was our first in close to 10 years maybe. We won IC in 2005, and were in SC that year but that season if you were beaten in preliminary round (St Pauls beat us) you could enter the IC.

In fact we have played SC plenty of years when we shouldn't have been near it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 16, 2015, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.
i'd concur with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 16, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2015, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 15, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 15, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I hate to point it out to you all but this moving to a cship for an all Ireland run/chsip victory seems to be a city thing....................

Glenarrife?

Does anyone really think there's a system to assign teams to championships which will be to everyone's agreement?
There will always be teams in-between grades and will move over years.
This debate happens in every county!

And like I said - I think we should be more concerned with the future of hurling at Hannahstown as not many up there believe this to be an easy all ireland attempt.

Unless of course you prefer single code clubs - which seems to be a North antrim thing.  ;)

When was that ?  :)

Can't be exact on the years but your boys have definitely jumped between intermediate & senior in recent years.
I've no problem with that - just making the point it's ridiculous to suggest this is a belfast thing.
The same good now be said of cloughmills.
They could enter senior again if they wished - but chose intermediate as in division 2 - fair enough.

It's no different for the johnnies or rossa or Lamh dearg.
If their ability has them dropping down a league - then they are entitled to drop down a championship - like glenarrife & cloughmills - the point is it's not a city thing.

I could be wrong but last years appearance in the Intermediate championship was our first in close to 10 years maybe. We won IC in 2005, and were in SC that year but that season if you were beaten in preliminary round (St Pauls beat us) you could enter the IC.

In fact we have played SC plenty of years when we shouldn't have been near it.

I don't disagree with a word of that Minder - The Johnnies and Rossa went nearly 10years without winning a match also - my point is not the decision to 'drop-down' it was that it's not a city thing.
Cloughmills also took the (correct) decision. It was just stupid and factually incorrect statement but I'll drop it there.

I think nearly everyone agrees with MR2 - if we keep tinkering this again proves there is no golden chalice of a perfect system. It's because we have so many inconsistent teams. Therefore pick a system and stick with it - at least we all know where we stand then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 16, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 16, 2015, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.
i'd concur with that.

To be honest MR2 I dont think you have a leg to stand on here with your argument against seeding.

If your club took hurling seriously and put in the effort that is required to compete at the top level then you might well have but that is simply not the case. I accept that it is more difficult in a dual club, however there is a perception rightly or wrongly that hurling is a bit of a joke to you. Not you personally but as a club.

The championship shouldn't be seen as a free ride, looking for a handy draw to get to a final that a club doesn't deserve. Graft, work hard and put the effort in down the ranks, spend time developing skill away from training. All the things that your footballers have done for years, your hurlers simply don't do. You will find that the seeded teams are doing all these things.

Now support should be given to those non seeded teams, county coaches should be in these clubs developing their structures and methods and helping them to improve so that they are not cut adrift but are in a change process which should lead to continual improvement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D

Oh right. Because nobody in SA is working at hurling at all?
The problem is not getting "our gaff" sorted - be it the dual issue, social issues, too many clubs, whatever - they aren't going away. City clubs are working against and with issues which NA clubs are not. Thtas just a fact. The statement is disrepectful to those who give their efforts both taking teams and playing in them.

I notice not all the NA clubs are keeping gaelic football alive by offering it to their members.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2015, 11:59:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.

the gate money in the championship goes to the county, it has nothing to do with the glens.

the cold hard fact is that our county looked at the fixtures from last year and the gate receipts from it and decided they didnt want that again. they seeded it to ensure there wouldn't be happening again. one semi final had a great return, the other didnt. fact.

this was our county doing this, not any clubs within the county. they are the snobs here, more so they are the greedy ones who didnt make enough cash from it.

for the record i dont care for it nor am i against it. if we get st galls so be it, if we got ballycastle so be it. i dont care to be honest. if you want to win the championship your going to have to beat cdall/lgiel/st johns etc at some stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 11:59:48 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can't find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game

typo edit ...sorry Minder  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 16, 2015, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.

The league last year shouldn't have affected the big games(gate money) in the glens as they all made it into the top half and played each other twice.

I don't know how the gates for championship games are split in Antrim, (Down CD get everything barring 10% for the host club) but unless the clubs get a fair slice of it then Antrim CB lost out more and the greater will would be with them to enter into a seeding arrangement, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D

Oh right. Because nobody in SA is working at hurling at all?
The problem is not getting "our gaff" sorted - be it the dual issue, social issues, too many clubs, whatever - they aren't going away. City clubs are working against and with issues which NA clubs are not. Thtas just a fact. The statement is disrepectful to those who give their efforts both taking teams and playing in them.

I notice not all the NA clubs are keeping gaelic football alive by offering it to their members.
Apologies btdtgtt, no disrespect intended, just stating the obvious scientific fact - NA - Hurling / SA Big ball!

I appreciate the difficulties and obstacles SA and in particular dual clubs face, but its all about choice and preference, nothing wrong with that.  Bear in mind though, other than St. Galls/Johnnies doing well in the football over past years in Antrim, Ulster ans AI series.  Now if you flip that coin, Antrim clubs in all grades of hurling, Senior, Int. Jun. could very well progress through Ulster and to All Ireland series and possibly achieve great things. In recent years, Johnnies, Rossa have dropped down and progressed through Ulster to the bigger stage.  Now LD doing the same!  Pot hunting, mere pot hunting, nothing to do with playing at your level, but amazing what a few pieces of silver may bring to the party.  Creggan, have done it and, jaysus they are a SW dual club! ;)   Less likely for that to happen in football, eh?

So all you big ball/dual clubs, make the decision, its all about choice and preference of course, as in life!!!!!! Still an open draw for me, creates opportunites for serious upsets and potential progress. ;) ??? ;D :-X  Case in point, lets take Limerick, Clare, Tipp, KK etc. do you really think the give a fiddlers fcuk about the big ball?  :P  Nah, see, it all about choice and preference.  ;)  In NA, it has always been the sliotar and caman code, although the town, may beg to differ, but I don't think so, do you????  ::) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 03:29:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 16, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 16, 2015, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:24 AM
Haven't really had a chance to debate this, but I'm more than fed up with how the 'clubs' change this every time, leagues one year championship the next, two up in the league or two down, round robin championships, playoffs in the leagues, group stages championships ffs!!! I reckon I could go on but it really is daft, never going to please anyone but thats the way it is......

As for changing it this year cause it upset the gate money in the glens, well that just speaks volumes. While it may have been a 'lopsided' draw in the snobs view it was a massive chance for clubs like ourselves, Sarsfields, Gales Cloughmills all actually thought they had a chance to reach a county final, for some that would have been their first time... We achieved that and while we didn't cover ourselves in glory, we (played no worse that the losers of the final the year before btw) got that monkey off our backs.

To continually change it offers nothing in my view.... getting your own house in order seems to be the main chat from the 'establishment' and looking after their own, well after this years Ulster championship final I'd say some teams in Antrim would really need to sort out their own house before telling the minnows to do so.
i'd concur with that.

To be honest MR2 I dont think you have a leg to stand on here with your argument against seeding.

If your club took hurling seriously and put in the effort that is required to compete at the top level then you might well have but that is simply not the case. I accept that it is more difficult in a dual club, however there is a perception rightly or wrongly that hurling is a bit of a joke to you. Not you personally but as a club.

The championship shouldn't be seen as a free ride, looking for a handy draw to get to a final that a club doesn't deserve. Graft, work hard and put the effort in down the ranks, spend time developing skill away from training. All the things that your footballers have done for years, your hurlers simply don't do. You will find that the seeded teams are doing all these things.

Now support should be given to those non seeded teams, county coaches should be in these clubs developing their structures and methods and helping them to improve so that they are not cut adrift but are in a change process which should lead to continual improvement.

My gripe with the seeding is because they done it again!! County yes  but clubs guilty of this also in fairness nag cause they were the ones that actually voted it. As I sure you know that's how its done proposals are put up by clubs and voted on, but you'll know that already. Its the constant changing that pisses me off.

As for putting effort in we have and continue to do. Getting to Croke park in both codes in the same year is difficult, your own club is still trying😉. I'm proud of my club be it  football or hurling or ladies football we've achieved a lot, a hell of a lot more than clubs in NA in both codes, but when we as a club became prominent in big ball in the early eighties then that was unfortunately going to hit the hurlers within that side of things.....

But we've been a yoyo club and will continue for a while yet.....

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
MR2 as far as i know it was a county proposal and not one from a club for the seeding. not all the country clubs voted for it and even one of the seeded teams voted against it. i know ourselves and lgiel voted yes, i dont know wat cdall voted. to be honest our club didnt care either way what way the vote went.

i do agree with you that dual clubs put more work into sucess at all codes, more so than hurling/fooball only clubs. i dont think these single code clubs realise how much work goes into a dual club who also have camogie teams to boot. to put it in perspective, we have 21 teams in total training or starting pre-season training this and next week in all codes in our club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on January 16, 2015, 05:29:19 PM
I was there on Monday and the county chairman stated the seeding proposal for championship were  100% financial driven and was prised by the county not the clubs.

The vote was 20 against and 26 for. With only 44 clubs in Antrim someone behind me asked what was the voting strength and if all clubs were present and how could we have more votes than clubs. The response was that county executive could vote even though not all members were present and some say they didn't even know it was being proposed.

With regard money, clubs that host any championship games are entitled to 10% of the gate on the day but are never told until later date what is collected.

Role on the championship draws this Monday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 16, 2015, 05:41:54 PM
Is it one vote to cover both football & hurling championships?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on January 16, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
It's one vote per club (& executive members), motion was for both codes so only one vote needed.

Maybe some season Antrim will try and leave the formats of championship and league along. Time to get on with it until this years convention when no doubt there be some changes proposed yet again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
Quote from: glensgael on January 16, 2015, 05:29:19 PM
I was there on Monday and the county chairman stated the seeding proposal for championship were  100% financial driven and was prised by the county not the clubs.

The vote was 20 against and 26 for. With only 44 clubs in Antrim someone behind me asked what was the voting strength and if all clubs were present and how could we have more votes than clubs. The response was that county executive could vote even though not all members were present and some say they didn't even know it was being proposed.

With regard money, clubs that host any championship games are entitled to 10% of the gate on the day but are never told until later date what is collected.

Role on the championship draws this Monday night.

That's a first for me, always thought a club had to propose a change like leagues and championships and the clubs voted..... Either or its still down to clubs that voted to change it regardless of who proposed it... Seeding the football means Rossa this year will get to quarter final before kicking a ball and having not won a championship match in a while.... No doubt hardstation can give a better view on that.

Well as long as everyone thinks this will improve Antrim hurling then grand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D

Oh right. Because nobody in SA is working at hurling at all?
The problem is not getting "our gaff" sorted - be it the dual issue, social issues, too many clubs, whatever - they aren't going away. City clubs are working against and with issues which NA clubs are not. Thtas just a fact. The statement is disrepectful to those who give their efforts both taking teams and playing in them.

I notice not all the NA clubs are keeping gaelic football alive by offering it to their members.
Apologies btdtgtt, no disrespect intended, just stating the obvious scientific fact - NA - Hurling / SA Big ball!

I appreciate the difficulties and obstacles SA and in particular dual clubs face, but its all about choice and preference, nothing wrong with that.  Bear in mind though, other than St. Galls/Johnnies doing well in the football over past years in Antrim, Ulster ans AI series.  Now if you flip that coin, Antrim clubs in all grades of hurling, Senior, Int. Jun. could very well progress through Ulster and to All Ireland series and possibly achieve great things. In recent years, Johnnies, Rossa have dropped down and progressed through Ulster to the bigger stage.  Now LD doing the same!  Pot hunting, mere pot hunting, nothing to do with playing at your level, but amazing what a few pieces of silver may bring to the party.  Creggan, have done it and, jaysus they are a SW dual club! ;)   Less likely for that to happen in football, eh?

So all you big ball/dual clubs, make the decision, its all about choice and preference of course, as in life!!!!!! Still an open draw for me, creates opportunites for serious upsets and potential progress. ;) ??? ;D :-X  Case in point, lets take Limerick, Clare, Tipp, KK etc. do you really think the give a fiddlers fcuk about the big ball?  :P  Nah, see, it all about choice and preference.  ;)  In NA, it has always been the sliotar and caman code, although the town, may beg to differ, but I don't think so, do you????  ::) ;D

Fair enough Sham no offence taken!

However as regards "choosing" single/dual codes:

1) many clubs have been around circa 100 years as dual clubs and are rightly proud of it. There's no such thing as choosing to do away with that.

2) there's a broader onus on gaa clubs than winning - a responsibility as gaels to cater for and develop young people - best done by offering them both codes.

3) our association is not single code - so clubs need not pursue this either.

Given these three points I hope you realise the notion of choosing a code is pretty much redundant for existing dual clubs!
Mind you - I know of some people who would love to!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 17, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D

Oh right. Because nobody in SA is working at hurling at all?
The problem is not getting "our gaff" sorted - be it the dual issue, social issues, too many clubs, whatever - they aren't going away. City clubs are working against and with issues which NA clubs are not. Thtas just a fact. The statement is disrepectful to those who give their efforts both taking teams and playing in them.

I notice not all the NA clubs are keeping gaelic football alive by offering it to their members.
Apologies btdtgtt, no disrespect intended, just stating the obvious scientific fact - NA - Hurling / SA Big ball!

I appreciate the difficulties and obstacles SA and in particular dual clubs face, but its all about choice and preference, nothing wrong with that.  Bear in mind though, other than St. Galls/Johnnies doing well in the football over past years in Antrim, Ulster ans AI series.  Now if you flip that coin, Antrim clubs in all grades of hurling, Senior, Int. Jun. could very well progress through Ulster and to All Ireland series and possibly achieve great things. In recent years, Johnnies, Rossa have dropped down and progressed through Ulster to the bigger stage.  Now LD doing the same!  Pot hunting, mere pot hunting, nothing to do with playing at your level, but amazing what a few pieces of silver may bring to the party.  Creggan, have done it and, jaysus they are a SW dual club! ;)   Less likely for that to happen in football, eh?

So all you big ball/dual clubs, make the decision, its all about choice and preference of course, as in life!!!!!! Still an open draw for me, creates opportunites for serious upsets and potential progress. ;) ??? ;D :-X  Case in point, lets take Limerick, Clare, Tipp, KK etc. do you really think the give a fiddlers fcuk about the big ball?  :P  Nah, see, it all about choice and preference.  ;)  In NA, it has always been the sliotar and caman code, although the town, may beg to differ, but I don't think so, do you????  ::) ;D

Fair enough Sham no offence taken! Glad to see you have cooled your jets! ;)

However as regards "choosing" single/dual codes:

1) many clubs have been around circa 100 years as dual clubs and are rightly proud of it. There's no such thing as choosing to do away with that. But sure both codes should be treated equally with abundant resources??

2) there's a broader onus on gaa clubs than winning - a responsibility as gaels to cater for and develop young people - best done by offering them both codes. Very commendable and no dispute in this regard :D

3) our association is not single code - so clubs need not pursue this either. There is no rule to say you have to pursue all codes, Football, Hurling, Handball, Rounders, Camogie, Ladies big ball!!!!! ???

Given these three points I hope you realise the notion of choosing a code is pretty much redundant for existing dual clubs!
Mind you - I know of some people who would love to!   I know some clubs who would willing drop football and vice versa.  A major drain on human and financial resource and over subscribed catchment areas
Fair to say my suggestion of opting for one code is not redundant.  Resources, players, cost factors have a big impact on every club, in my view it is not sustainable for the future unless of impending mergers, especially in the city.  ;)  Just my lateral thinking, which some may view as radical. 8) :-[  There was a time LD did not subscribe to the wee ball code, and were evidently more successful at football, the demise of hurling in LD could very well be to their long tern benefit?????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 17, 2015, 01:13:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 16, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 16, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 16, 2015, 09:54:18 AM
If "your club treats it like a bit of a joke" is a different way of saying
"Your club can find enough interested coaches to develop the game properly" then I'd agree with that  :o

Every club is reliant on enough people giving the right time to doing all the things you speak about. Its a numbers game
Its all to do with the standing of Hurling in both Antrim and Ulster. Dual clubs and city  clubs in particular continue to hold hurling as secondary and a lesser objective in terms of their ambition. Football in the city has always been the dominant code, possibly with the exception of O'DR and St. Johns.

Dropping down to lower grades in hurling championship, provides a means for a predominant football club to possibly pick up a other piece of silverware to enhance and populate the trophy table.

Football, whether you like it or not, is and always has been, will be the predominant code, that's fact! Clubs, County and Ulster Council have created this by choice.

Strong, dominant hurling clubs such as we have in NA, will always be a minority. On the rare occasion when hurling in Rossa or St. Johns is reasonably strong, always makes for an interesting and competitive Antrim SHC. Other than that,  clubs will pick and choose IHC or JHC in pursuit of silverware. Have to agree, Championship grade should be determined by League divisions.

And we in NA will battle on keeping the game alive in the more serious and committed fashion. You SA men need to get your gaff sorted ffs!  >:( ;D

Oh right. Because nobody in SA is working at hurling at all?
The problem is not getting "our gaff" sorted - be it the dual issue, social issues, too many clubs, whatever - they aren't going away. City clubs are working against and with issues which NA clubs are not. Thtas just a fact. The statement is disrepectful to those who give their efforts both taking teams and playing in them.

I notice not all the NA clubs are keeping gaelic football alive by offering it to their members.
Apologies btdtgtt, no disrespect intended, just stating the obvious scientific fact - NA - Hurling / SA Big ball!

I appreciate the difficulties and obstacles SA and in particular dual clubs face, but its all about choice and preference, nothing wrong with that.  Bear in mind though, other than St. Galls/Johnnies doing well in the football over past years in Antrim, Ulster ans AI series.  Now if you flip that coin, Antrim clubs in all grades of hurling, Senior, Int. Jun. could very well progress through Ulster and to All Ireland series and possibly achieve great things. In recent years, Johnnies, Rossa have dropped down and progressed through Ulster to the bigger stage.  Now LD doing the same!  Pot hunting, mere pot hunting, nothing to do with playing at your level, but amazing what a few pieces of silver may bring to the party.  Creggan, have done it and, jaysus they are a SW dual club! ;)   Less likely for that to happen in football, eh?

So all you big ball/dual clubs, make the decision, its all about choice and preference of course, as in life!!!!!! Still an open draw for me, creates opportunites for serious upsets and potential progress. ;) ??? ;D :-X  Case in point, lets take Limerick, Clare, Tipp, KK etc. do you really think the give a fiddlers fcuk about the big ball?  :P  Nah, see, it all about choice and preference.  ;)  In NA, it has always been the sliotar and caman code, although the town, may beg to differ, but I don't think so, do you????  ::) ;D

Fair enough Sham no offence taken! Glad to see you have cooled your jets! ;)

However as regards "choosing" single/dual codes:

1) many clubs have been around circa 100 years as dual clubs and are rightly proud of it. There's no such thing as choosing to do away with that. But sure both codes should be treated equally with abundant resources??

2) there's a broader onus on gaa clubs than winning - a responsibility as gaels to cater for and develop young people - best done by offering them both codes. Very commendable and no dispute in this regard :D

3) our association is not single code - so clubs need not pursue this either. There is no rule to say you have to pursue all codes, Football, Hurling, Handball, Rounders, Camogie, Ladies big ball!!!!! ???

Given these three points I hope you realise the notion of choosing a code is pretty much redundant for existing dual clubs!
Mind you - I know of some people who would love to!   I know some clubs who would willing drop football and vice versa.  A major drain on human and financial resource and over subscribed catchment areas
Fair to say my suggestion of opting for one code is not redundant.  Resources, players, cost factors have a big impact on every club, in my view it is not sustainable for the future unless of impending mergers, especially in the city.  ;)  Just my lateral thinking, which some may view as radical. 8) :-[  There was a time LD did not subscribe to the wee ball code, and were evidently more successful at football, the demise of hurling in LD could very well be to their long tern benefit?????????

Their football pedigree ain't great either to be fair, they won a senior championship in the committee room I think, though they were a decent team....

Look the dual thing will continue in the city's of most counties, its always the options for players as they go through juvenile and before you know it they are playing one or the other or both.... when they have a decent squad at both that's when the problems arise, the commitment now is getting harder as every team has or will be upping their efforts every year and to do that year in year out with the same cohort is hard...

Would these lads stop doing it? Nah I can't see it but remember its an amateur sport
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
Sham read your own response:

"But sure both codes should be treated equally with such abundant resources"

Then:

"A major drain on human and financial resources and over-subscribed catchment areas"

You contradict yourself!

Although to finish you rightly highlight the issue of so many clubs and all splitting between hurling and football.
Whilst it's a great aspiration it's just not working anymore - too many youngsters dropping out.
The way I see it - there needs to be a visionary yet vet very difficult plan to deal with this - because if it's left for clubs to wither and die then all will be affected.
Some people think there might be an almost natural wastage with clubs essentially folding and the strongest survivinand this becoming more prominent. I'm not so sure.

Personally I feel amalgamations don't work.
Players aren't loyal to them and we've saw the problems with violence at that underage game perhaps because some youngsters don't have duty to mentors or jersey.

I believe if a team cannot field in their own right - then players should follow the other code under sanction to another specific club. This is more coherent than amalgamated teams. The problem is that the parent club is afraid of losing the player altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 17, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
Sham read your own response:

"But sure both codes should be treated equally with such abundant resources"

Then:

"A major drain on human and financial resources and over-subscribed catchment areas"

You contradict yourself!

Although to finish you rightly highlight the issue of so many clubs and all splitting between hurling and football.
Whilst it's a great aspiration it's just not working anymore - too many youngsters dropping out.
The way I see it - there needs to be a visionary yet vet very difficult plan to deal with this - because if it's left for clubs to wither and die then all will be affected.
Some people think there might be an almost natural wastage with clubs essentially folding and the strongest survivinand this becoming more prominent. I'm not so sure.

Personally I feel amalgamations don't work.
Players aren't loyal to them and we've saw the problems with violence at that underage game perhaps because some youngsters don't have duty to mentors or jersey.

I believe if a team cannot field in their own right - then players should follow the other code under sanction to another specific club. This is more coherent than amalgamated teams. The problem is that the parent club is afraid of losing the player altogether.
A forensic observation btdtgtt, glad to see you were paying attention!  ;) ;D  Totally agree about amalgamations, loss of identity and pride I suppose, and I think it is inevitable smaller clubs are likely to fold.  The young ones dropping out is also of major concern, but too many other lucrative and more appealing alternatives.  This is major issue for the association and clubs to address.

Moving to another club to play either the hurling or football code as a consequence of your own clubs predominance of one specific code, I think is also fraught with difficulties, but certainly maybe the better option for some???  Trouble arises when,  if his home club have a football match and his adopted hurling club have a game on the same day!!!!!!!!  I have no doubt, smaller clubs will fold, which is sad of  course.  Pity really, a lot of history and hard work gone down the swanny!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
With the 2015 selections sorted who are the favourites for league and championship? Intermediate and div 2 looks as competative as ever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
And on the topic I have noticed that a few of the junior teams have failed to enter the league. Larne and Ballymena finished? Sad to see but it really is becoming a struggle all over the country
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
With the 2015 selections sorted who are the favourites for league and championship? Intermediate and div 2 looks as competative as ever

Div 1: Loughgiel
Championship: Ballycastle R/up Shams😉

Div 2: Ballygalget
Intermediate: Sarsfields R/up Glenariff

Div 3: lamh Dhearg
Junior: lamh Dhearg R/up Glenarm

Div 4: St Agnes
Junior B: St Agnes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
With the 2015 selections sorted who are the favourites for league and championship? Intermediate and div 2 looks as competative as ever

Div 1: Loughgiel
Championship: Ballycastle R/up Shams😉

Div 2: Ballygalget
Intermediate: Sarsfields R/up Glenariff

Div 3: lamh Dhearg
Junior: lamh Dhearg R/up Glenarm

Div 4: St Agnes
Junior B: St Agnes

Would argue much - except I think the shamrocks will wrestle back the volunteer cup. All things considered they are still the best side for me.

Also - interesting saffrongael1989 point not lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 09:23:44 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
With the 2015 selections sorted who are the favourites for league and championship? Intermediate and div 2 looks as competative as ever

Div 1: Loughgiel
Championship: Ballycastle R/up Shams😉

Div 2: Ballygalget
Intermediate: Sarsfields R/up Glenariff

Div 3: lamh Dhearg
Junior: lamh Dhearg R/up Glenarm

Div 4: St Agnes
Junior B: St Agnes

Would argue much - except I think the shamrocks will wrestle back the volunteer cup. All things considered they are still the best side for me.

Also - interesting saffrongael1989 point not lost.

Loughgiel are certainly the team to beat, will be recharged ready to go again in 2015. I hear sambo has stepped down in Cushendall and John McKillop (Smokey) has taken the reigns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 17, 2015, 10:03:07 PM
Senior Loughgiel
Div 1 Cushendall

Intermediate Cloughmills
Div 2 Ballygalget

Junior Lamh Dhearg
Div 3 Lamh Dhearg

Div 4 St Agnes
Junior B St Agnes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 17, 2015, 10:33:18 PM
Is this Loughiel's centenary? They could win back the championship this year. So many average teams in the senior championship last year. Not sure if Humpy is the man to bring the trophy back to Ballycastle. I'm sure they are kicking themselves as it was there to be won last year. I'll go Loughiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 17, 2015, 10:33:18 PM
Is this Loughiel's centenary? They could win back the championship this year. So many average teams in the senior championship last year. Not sure if Humpy is the man to bring the trophy back to Ballycastle. I'm sure they are kicking themselves as it was there to be won last year. I'll go Loughiel.

All joking aside, I would say it will be difficult for humpy to come in and perform a miracle in his first year for us, give him 2/3 years to be realistic challengers. I think Loughgiel will win it handy enough this season.

We have a more realistic chance of winning a minor championship this year, for the first time since 1990. We have a promising group at that age and just heard tonight that we have got Sean McCormick to leave his job as Carey manager and join our minor management. The dungers will like that one lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
It really is amazing how long ballycastle have gone without minor or senior championships?!

Would you attribute this to anything?
I assume it's carrying one hell of a weight on the clubs shoulders?

Hopefully not much longer would provide a real shot in the arm to have the town back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
It really is amazing how long ballycastle have gone without minor or senior championships?!

Would you attribute this to anything?
I assume it's carrying one hell of a weight on the clubs shoulders?

Hopefully not much longer would provide a real shot in the arm to have the town back.

There have been many false dawns, the work and commitment needs to be 100%. I can't put my finger on why it hasn't happened. I thought Michael McShane was going to be the one to get us over the line. I think Michael is a good manager, but it didn't happen. We have a talented senior panel this year. No senior championship since 1986 is amazing. We need a big breakthrough result against loughgiel, Cushendall or Dunloy to give that bit of confidence to push on to a final and win it. We haven't even been in a final since 2001. It is all in the head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 11:34:11 PM
Why did Michael not continue in the job?
Short reign?
Maybe containing with him and building steadily when all involved know the routine and what's expected and are comfortable in the set-up might eventually get you lads over the line rather that starting all over again - again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 11:37:52 PM
Michael was manager for 3 years, that seems to be the limit for a manager anywhere nowadays. 2/3 years seems to be the norm now, you don't get the old fashioned manager who is there for 10 years anymore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 17, 2015, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 11:37:52 PM
Michael was manager for 3 years, that's seems to be the limit for a manager anywhere nowadays. 2/3 years seems to be the norm now, you don't get the old fashioned manager who is there for 10 years anymore.

Leaving aside the year sabbatical enforced PJ seems to have staying power at loughgiel. And club supporting him - if it's not broke? Why change for change sake?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 18, 2015, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 17, 2015, 11:37:52 PM
Michael was manager for 3 years, that seems to be the limit for a manager anywhere nowadays. 2/3 years seems to be the norm now, you don't get the old fashioned manager who is there for 10 years anymore.
Send for Micky Hart, he would give you ten years at least!!!!!!  ;) :P :P

A real pity about the town, I certainly though they might  have made a serious breakthrough before this, but championship always brings about its own pitfalls.  No doubt, some serious talented hurlers and a proud tradition also.  We all certainly need Ballycastle to be up there and performing.  Everybody wins if the are competing well and lends to a more competitive league and championship.  Come on the town!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on January 18, 2015, 03:37:02 PM
Have not posted in well over a year - but going to share a few thoughts on why we are where we are:

1. Lack of talent over years - only in last few years are we starting to produce quality players
2. Age - majority of our key players are 19-23 bracket - so still need time to mature mentally and physically
3. Confidence - we have not beat a big team in years in championship - need to make breakthrough
4. Lack of commitment over years though great strides made in last few years addressing this
5. Discipline - players wanting to do own thing from drink, soccer, golf - one of the issues being from a town - again some improvement made but still long way to go
6. Bringing underage players through successfully - we have not won minor championship in 30 or so years - only one U16 championship - club no real vision to really address this
7. Way club is run - border lines on embarrassing how and what happens at our AGM
8. No real collective club spirit which ultimately relates back to point 7
9. I keep asking myself how many people within our club really want the good times back? - when I look at the support Loughgiel, Dunloy and to a lesser extent Cdall get from their committee to drive their teams on it makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with us?

Any way - there is no magic wand - it's a combination of all of the above.

Our facilities are first class are are a credit to our committee for that. But in my view a strength of a club is their teams - not facilities.

Humpy is our new manager - I'm glad to see him get his chance. Micky did good work over the last few years but ultimately didn't get a big win. Hopefully all those 9 points come together and Humpy can get us over the line. The potential is there.

#McQuillansabu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2015, 06:01:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   ;)

I'd say the best team last year was the team that beat Loughgiel ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 06:41:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2015, 06:01:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   ;)

I'd say the best team last year was the team that beat Loughgiel ;)
mais oui
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 19, 2015, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   ;)

are use like us now SIE, done out and finished lol

one bad season in Antrim and your clubs deemed finished with no talent coming through it seems at times.

Loughgiel would still be my team to beat this year mainly due to the fact that they still have a strong team. a winter off will have done them more good than anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 19, 2015, 10:14:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 18, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
What's with this loughgiel team to beat nonsense? Cushendall are the worthy champions and the team to beat. They are the champions therefore the best team in the county.  The smoke was fairly rising out of the lurig yesterday when I drove past.   ;)

are use like us now SIE, done out and finished lol

one bad season in Antrim and your clubs deemed finished with no talent coming through it seems at times.

Loughgiel would still be my team to beat this year mainly due to the fact that they still have a strong team. a winter off will have done them more good than anything

A winter off for the Dall also so everyone on level playing field :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 09:31:56 PM
No great excitement in the draw. Rossa could put it up to ballycastle. Should be strong favourites in other 3 games though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:44:25 PM
Perfect draw for the county.... Well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
How does semis work out.Are they known yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
How does semis work out.Are they known yet?

Confident then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:47:53 PM
I didn't make the draw lad. What was the full draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 19, 2015, 09:48:53 PM
If all goes the way the county want it then Shamrocks v Dal and town v Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:49:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:47:53 PM
I didn't make the draw lad. What was the full draw

By your post I thought you were looking beyond us till semi.... Silly me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:52:34 PM
Not at all.  We're done. Finished sure. Just wanted to no the full draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 09:57:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 09:52:34 PM
Not at all.  We're done. Finished sure. Just wanted to no the full draw

Course.... I think youse are done Ballycastles to lose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2015, 10:02:36 PM
Loughgiel galls
Cushendall johnnies
Ballycastle rossa
Dunloy clooney i think the last,..

Winners of first two play each other in semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 10:05:48 PM
Get it polished up. It's for the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 19, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
All games to be played as a blitz over one day. Games will be 15 mins each half and each team is asked to come togged out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 10:10:38 PM
To start with it is a joke that teams are seeded
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 19, 2015, 10:18:08 PM
Doesn't matter who wins the games,, as long as the county lift a good gate that is all that matters 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 19, 2015, 10:18:08 PM
Doesn't matter who wins the games,, as long as the county lift a good gate that is all that matters 😉

Never!!  They clearly didn't fix... Oops sort out the football lol we meet cargin in quarter's it seems lol... Venues fixed? All in North Antrim if they are looking good gates!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2015, 10:29:19 PM
Don't really care how much they lift at gates, if we could get the cup back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on January 19, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
Anyone able to post the full draw for all the competitions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 19, 2015, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 19, 2015, 10:18:08 PM
Doesn't matter who wins the games,, as long as the county lift a good gate that is all that matters 😉

Never!!  They clearly didn't fix... Oops sort out the football lol we meet cargin in quarter's it seems lol... Venues fixed? All in North Antrim if they are looking good gates!!

Aye how did that work?? They seeded 4 teams in the football and then you meet Cargin in a quarter final lol. you think you have seen it all from our county board and then they throw up something else lol. Unreal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on January 19, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
All games to be played as a blitz over one day. Games will be 15 mins each half and each team is asked to come togged out.

dont gest ;D ;D after the football draw i wouldnt be suprised. Very good though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 19, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Very cynical mutterings from supposed great Antrim Gaels (not). No wonder our county us in the state it is!  Just no pleasing some ffs. Everything has to have a twist or some underhand twist to stimulate debate. Open draws just don't suit some. No matter what the draw brings about, the games will be played. Some will win, some will lose,  and no matter who wins or loses there will always be those to point fingers at those who drew names from the hat. Love them or loathe them, thats the very essence of an open draw. Either which way you look at it, the fairest way and you takes what you get. Some of you boys should take one serious wisener ffs!  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2015, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 19, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Very cynical mutterings from supposed great Antrim Gaels (not). No wonder our county us in the state it is!  Just no pleasing some ffs. Everything has to have a twist or some underhand twist to stimulate debate. Open draws just don't suit some. No matter what the draw brings about, the games will be played. Some will win, some will lose,  and no matter who wins or loses there will always be those to point fingers at those who drew names from the hat. Love them or loathe them, thats the very essence of an open draw. Either which way you look at it, the fairest way and you takes what you get. Some of you boys should take one serious wisener ffs!  :o

Ok lets clear this up... Are you saying this was an open draw or are you being funny
.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2015, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 19, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Very cynical mutterings from supposed great Antrim Gaels (not). No wonder our county us in the state it is!  Just no pleasing some ffs. Everything has to have a twist or some underhand twist to stimulate debate. Open draws just don't suit some. No matter what the draw brings about, the games will be played. Some will win, some will lose,  and no matter who wins or loses there will always be those to point fingers at those who drew names from the hat. Love them or loathe them, thats the very essence of an open draw. Either which way you look at it, the fairest way and you takes what you get. Some of you boys should take one serious wisener ffs!  :o

i would respond if i knew what your point was
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 19, 2015, 11:05:26 PM
The 2015 Shamrocks vs Ballycastle final should be tasty.
Somehow I doubt it will be 15 vs 15 by the final whistle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 19, 2015, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 19, 2015, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 19, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
Very cynical mutterings from supposed great Antrim Gaels (not). No wonder our county us in the state it is!  Just no pleasing some ffs. Everything has to have a twist or some underhand twist to stimulate debate. Open draws just don't suit some. No matter what the draw brings about, the games will be played. Some will win, some will lose,  and no matter who wins or loses there will always be those to point fingers at those who drew names from the hat. Love them or loathe them, thats the very essence of an open draw. Either which way you look at it, the fairest way and you takes what you get. Some of you boys should take one serious wisener ffs!  :o

i would respond if i knew what your point was
Open draw, just like democracy! Yet when it does go your way, you just cry foul.

I am a supporter of the Open draw. Is that so difficult to comprehend? Ffs, I don't even know why I'm feeling I should justify your question with a response.  ::)  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2015, 07:08:07 AM
Happy enough with out side of the draw. Wanted to avoid the johnnies at all costs so happy with that.

Games are at neutral venues, our game most likely in lgiel. Town v Rossa and lgiel possibly a double header in the city?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
Happy enough with that draw.  Nothing easy in Championship and Clooney will be a new team we've never faced before.  Will be difficult to get a handle on them with them not in our division.  Our side of the draw is a great opportunity for all the teams to reach a final with a couple of good peformances

Ballycastle v Rossa will be a good one, don't see a lot in those teams.  Cushendall and Loughgiel should come through to set up a mouth watering semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 09:04:18 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 08:06:33 AM
Happy enough with that draw.  Nothing easy in Championship and Clooney will be a new team we've never faced before.  Will be difficult to get a handle on them with them not in our division.  Our side of the draw is a great opportunity for all the teams to reach a final with a couple of good peformances

Ballycastle v Rossa will be a good one, don't see a lot in those teams.  Cushendall and Loughgiel should come through to set up a mouth watering semi final.

Did Clooney not get promoted to Div1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 20, 2015, 09:16:15 AM
AFAIK yes they are now a Div One team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2015, 09:20:00 AM
yeah they are in Div 1 this year. its actually an interesting tie, i have alot of friends who play for cloney and have been to alot of thier games so it will be good craic playing them this year. the messages started last night between each other, they fancy taking on lgiel in the final! lol

good banter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
There you go, for some reason I thought just Rossa came up! So Ballygalget are down too! A lot less travelling to Ahoghill than the Ards!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
There you go, for some reason I thought just Rossa came up! So Ballygalget are down too! A lot less travelling to Ahoghill than the Ards!

I don't think you were down in the Ards with us last year anyway, so no odds other than Seamus Elliott losing out on the extra red biddy being sold out of the pump behind the shop!!
8) 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2015, 11:20:45 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7vS0NTCIAAuZ9L.jpg:large)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 20, 2015, 11:34:54 AM
Will this be the year the town make the breakthrough???? They have to be looking at a semi final with Dunloy and that is the day when we will find out if they can indeed take a massive leap. That said, Rossa and Clooney will be no easy touches on the way there.

Other side is pretty straight forward I think, cant see any potential upsets before big semi final with dall v shams. Shams on a revenge mission from last year. Will 'our boy' be back after his knee op?

County executive showed themselves up last night for the bunch of muppets they are. They can't get a 'seeded' draw right on the night, how could they ever get dunsilly and casement off the ground!!

Good luck to Rossa at the weekend, do the county proud.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
There you go, for some reason I thought just Rossa came up! So Ballygalget are down too! A lot less travelling to Ahoghill than the Ards!

I don't think you were down in the Ards with us last year anyway, so no odds other than Seamus Elliott losing out on the extra red biddy being sold out of the pump behind the shop!!
8) 8)

not been Seamus selling that for a while now! But you are right we had you at home only last year. I actually enjoy all the games in the Ards, you earn anything you get!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 20, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
There you go, for some reason I thought just Rossa came up! So Ballygalget are down too! A lot less travelling to Ahoghill than the Ards!

I don't think you were down in the Ards with us last year anyway, so no odds other than Seamus Elliott losing out on the extra red biddy being sold out of the pump behind the shop!!
8) 8)

not been Seamus selling that for a while now! But you are right we had you at home only last year. I actually enjoy all the games in the Ards, you earn anything you get!

Must be the Billy fella then!

It's been a day or two since we've troubled any of the 'seeded' teams down in our place but we live in hope
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2015, 11:20:45 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7vS0NTCIAAuZ9L.jpg:large)

'f**k it, throw cargin in against St galls. Sure the gate will cover all the moaning we will have to listen to.'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2015, 01:01:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7vS0NTCIAAuZ9L.jpg:large)


"Seeded draw you say, what sort of a seed is this, I've never seen a blue one before"

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2015, 02:53:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7vS0NTCIAAuZ9L.jpg:large)

"Double check this lads, is this really Lamh Dhearg in the Junior Hurling Chhampionship?"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on January 20, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Already the snide comments about it being Ballycastles to lose begin! Ballycastle were humbled last year the same as the other 20 odd since we won it last. Last year was a particular eye opener as it showed that a lot of our supposed "stars" (ie. McAuley, McAfee etc) just dont have it in them when its put in their face and the chips are down. Will take a serious turnaround if we want to even sniff a final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 20, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on January 20, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Already the snide comments about it being Ballycastles to lose begin! Ballycastle were humbled last year the same as the other 20 odd since we won it last. Last year was a particular eye opener as it showed that a lot of o ur supposed "stars" (ie. McAuley, McAfee etc) just dont have it in them when its put in their face and the chips are down. Will take a serious turnaround if we want to even sniff a final!
You should'nt expect anything less Hurler, sure did they all not slate us for years and laugh at our misfortune and failures getting over the line? Sure all these boys who are legends and would have you believe they know all things hurling. Fcukin hasbeens most of them!

I for one would live to see the town come strong again and make the breakthrough. We all need the town to be strong and competing. We all benefit from other clubs being strong, it drives us all on.  :-[  Dont pay any attention to the morons, they thrive on negativity.  ::)  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2015, 09:13:58 PM
Said it before, I will say it again;
Ballycastle v shamrocks final.
The makings of an epic too as the town would be coming off a victory over Dunloy to build confidence.
Would they have home advantage?
Bring on 2015!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 20, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 20, 2015, 09:13:58 PM
Said it before, I will say it again;
Ballycastle v shamrocks final.
The makings of an epic too as the town would be coming off a victory over Dunloy to build confidence.
Would they have home advantage?
Bring on 2015

We can only but dream 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 20, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on January 20, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Already the snide comments about it being Ballycastles to lose begin! Ballycastle were humbled last year the same as the other 20 odd since we won it last. Last year was a particular eye opener as it showed that a lot of o ur supposed "stars" (ie. McAuley, McAfee etc) just dont have it in them when its put in their face and the chips are down. Will take a serious turnaround if we want to even sniff a final!
You should'nt expect anything less Hurler, sure did they all not slate us for years and laugh at our misfortune and failures getting over the line? Sure all these boys who are legends and would have you believe they know all things hurling. Fcukin hasbeens most of them!

I for one would live to see the town come strong again and make the breakthrough. We all need the town to be strong and competing. We all benefit from other clubs being strong, it drives us all on.  :-[  Dont pay any attention to the morons, they thrive on negativity.  ::)  ???
sham man.  I've pulled you on this before.  But this 100% confirms it.  Because whatever shite you talked before.   There is not one hurling man in Loughgiel wants to see Ballycastle make the breakthrough.  Therefor.  For a fact your not Loughgiel. So stop with the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 10:34:39 PM
And that's no disrespect to the town. I've some good friends hurling for them now and in years gone by.  It's just the cold hard truth!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2015, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 20, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on January 20, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Already the snide comments about it being Ballycastles to lose begin! Ballycastle were humbled last year the same as the other 20 odd since we won it last. Last year was a particular eye opener as it showed that a lot of o ur supposed "stars" (ie. McAuley, McAfee etc) just dont have it in them when its put in their face and the chips are down. Will take a serious turnaround if we want to even sniff a final!
You should'nt expect anything less Hurler, sure did they all not slate us for years and laugh at our misfortune and failures getting over the line? Sure all these boys who are legends and would have you believe they know all things hurling. Fcukin hasbeens most of them!

I for one would live to see the town come strong again and make the breakthrough. We all need the town to be strong and competing. We all benefit from other clubs being strong, it drives us all on.  :-[  Dont pay any attention to the morons, they thrive on negativity.  ::)  ???
sham man.  I've pulled you on this before.  But this 100% confirms it.  Because whatever shite you talked before.   There is not one hurling man in Loughgiel wants to see Ballycastle make the breakthrough.  Therefor.  For a fact your not Loughgiel. So stop with the game.

:) :) :) U got 2 love that honesty  :) :) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 11:02:14 PM
And I asure you it's the same both ways.  No doubt they'll be back at the top some day. Big club. Another sleeping giant.  And when that day arrives.fair play to them. But I hope it's a day or two yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 12:12:04 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 11:02:14 PM
And I asure you it's the same both ways.  No doubt they'll be back at the top some day. Big club. Another sleeping giant.  And when that day arrives.fair play to them. But I hope it's a day or two yet.

Exactly like me wishing Cargin all the best in our 'non seeded' game next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 21, 2015, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 11:02:14 PM
And I asure you it's the same both ways.  No doubt they'll be back at the top some day. Big club. Another sleeping giant.  And when that day arrives.fair play to them. But I hope it's a day or two yet.

i have to agree with you SG. whilst the neutrals all loved your win over the dall to win your first title in a lifetime i couldnt stay at the end to watch it lol i had to run for the hills and refuse to buy a paper to acknowledge it ever happened!

it was no more than you deserved all the same as you had alot of misfortune not to win it before that but i could of seen use not win it for a lot longer. that isnt being bitter its just not wanting your rivals to win. it works both ways.

hurler24 it isnt snide remarks its merely the hard truth that too many in the towns team don't want to know come the big day. they have lost to us 3 times in the past 5 years and on no occasion did we play well, in fact we were lucky to come through them due to ballycastle being poorer than we were.

great hurlers, really good ones in fact. i would take mcafee, saul, neil etc any day of the week in a dunloy team but they need to dig in this year. results in the league against the likes of the dall, lgiel, ourselves etc all build confidence and a winning mentality.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 21, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 20, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on January 20, 2015, 06:56:28 PM
Already the snide comments about it being Ballycastles to lose begin! Ballycastle were humbled last year the same as the other 20 odd since we won it last. Last year was a particular eye opener as it showed that a lot of o ur supposed "stars" (ie. McAuley, McAfee etc) just dont have it in them when its put in their face and the chips are down. Will take a serious turnaround if we want to even sniff a final!
You should'nt expect anything less Hurler, sure did they all not slate us for years and laugh at our misfortune and failures getting over the line? Sure all these boys who are legends and would have you believe they know all things hurling. Fcukin hasbeens most of them!

I for one would live to see the town come strong again and make the breakthrough. We all need the town to be strong and competing. We all benefit from other clubs being strong, it drives us all on.  :-[  Dont pay any attention to the morons, they thrive on negativity.  ::)  ???
sham man.  I've pulled you on this before.  But this 100% confirms it.  Because whatever shite you talked before.   There is not one hurling man in Loughgiel wants to see Ballycastle make the breakthrough.  Therefor.  For a fact your not Loughgiel. So stop with the game.
Who are you to pull anybody SG? Maybe its because I am not as bitter or tribal as you. Family connections in both camps SG, that's all. And no matter, we all need The town to be strong, that makes us strong and competitive!  You should cool ur jets ffs, relax and maintain a little bit if humility and integrity ffs.  :-[  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 21, 2015, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2015, 11:02:14 PM
And I asure you it's the same both ways.  No doubt they'll be back at the top some day. Big club. Another sleeping giant.  And when that day arrives.fair play to them. But I hope it's a day or two yet.
Sure they will, as we learned last year, you can not win year  in year out, and some times it takes some considerable time to get over the line. Lets not forget in the not too distant past how we repeatyedly faltered. It was longer time than our reign  as champions. Dont be so fcukin bitter SG, not a commendable characteristic.  :-[ :-\  Don't be actin the bollix like some of the other assh**** , ffs.  ;)

Don't fall into the same trap as the ruthless egotists, chancers and confidence tricksters, not your style SG! ;)

Ur fcukin hilarious all the same, ya come off wif some fcukin crap! Exactly what gets our club a bad name.   You should not be too over zealous in you assertions either, mark my words! keep guessing but look at my clue?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 21, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Your from Belfast and you no I no who you are.  So stop with the dung!!!  DR. that's a fact. It's just the way it is. I think the town will need beat in 1 maybe 2 before they get over the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 21, 2015, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 21, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Your from Belfast and you no I no who you are.  So stop with the dung!!!  DR. that's a fact. It's just the way it is. I think the town will need beat in 1 maybe 2 before they get over the line.
he he he he, ya fcukin crack me up SG, ur some man for one man!  No dung at all SG, fact Loughgiel and Ballycastle ties.  As I said before, dont be talking like a McCooey chipeater.  I though you had a little more class, but obviously misjudged you.  :D ;)  Best Regards, Kevin?????????  fuckin hialrious.  ;D 8) :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 21, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
I was looking at the Intermediate Championship there. It has definitely been unbalanced in terms of the quality of teams on one side compared to the other.  Sarsfields, Glenariffe, Cloughmills and Carey all in one side of the draw.  I'm sure St Pauls fancy their chances big time in the other side to get to a final.

Armoy who beat St Paul's And Glenariff on route to last years final are in the other side? Creggan who won the Junior all Ireland and only lost narrowly to Carey last year, are in the other side? Gortnamona are never a soft touch in intermediate championship and they are in the other side? St Paul's are in the other side? Whoever comes out of this side of the intermediate draw will give the team coming from the "quality" side of the draw a good game if not beat them in the final.

Maybe they should have seeded the draw lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 21, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
I was looking at the Intermediate Championship there. It has definitely been unbalanced in terms of the quality of teams on one side compared to the other.  Sarsfields, Glenariffe, Cloughmills and Carey all in one side of the draw.  I'm sure St Pauls fancy their chances big time in the other side to get to a final.

Armoy who beat St Paul's And Glenariff on route to last years final are in the other side? Creggan who won the Junior all Ireland and only lost narrowly to Carey last year, are in the other side? Gortnamona are never a soft touch in intermediate championship and they are in the other side? St Paul's are in the other side? Whoever comes out of this side of the intermediate draw will give the team coming from the "quality" side of the draw a good game if not beat them in the final.

Maybe they should have seeded the draw lol

If Creggan follow on from last year they'll get to final.. Very impressed with them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 09:56:23 PM
Creggan in my view that day ;) should have beaten Carey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 21, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
I'd back the biddies to win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.

+1

Creggan (providing they have kicked on from last year) will win that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:29:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.

+1

Creggan (providing they have kicked on from last year) will win that game

It looks like a really competitive championship that's one thing for sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 11:38:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:29:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2015, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.


Rossa are a good price for their game this weekend, 11/4 against the Waterford Munster champions. If they get at them and keep going for full hour they will be in with a shout/

Yeah more balanced championship for sure
+1

Creggan (providing they have kicked on from last year) will win that game

It looks like a really competitive championship that's one thing for sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on January 22, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
Fancy cloughmills and sarsfields to battle it out on one side and Creggan to give a good account of themselves. Fancy a cloughmills Creggan final if I'm honest. Can see a few teams being out of their depth. St endas and glenravel dropping back to junior next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 22, 2015, 12:57:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 21, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 21, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Glenariff are an ageing force, as was exhibited when Armoy beat them in last years semi final. Cloughmills don't have a big panel and have lost a few boys to Australia, Cossie has transferred back to us from Armoy and their manager has stepped down, Careys manager has left them to take our minors.

I will go for a Sarsfields and Creggan final, with Sarsfields winning it.

+1

+1
Sarsfields are favourites to win Intermediate, that's obvious. Who they meet in final is very hard to predict.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
Plenty of chat about intermediate which is good to see. Everyone presuming Senior is a Loughgiel / Dall shootout?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 22, 2015, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
Plenty of chat about intermediate which is good to see. Everyone presuming Senior is a Loughgiel / Dall shootout?

With no animosity or bitterness whatsoever, I genuinely think that LG will struggle to get back to their previous level.

The older players are that bit older and the desire or ability to do those extra defining hard yards just wont be there, not a dig simple fact. Also I dont think the replacements as are strong as they once were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2015, 03:39:02 PM
i kinda think that myself but there could stil be another one left in them. i see alot of the way were with Loughgiel with a good team winning all yet aging away with a few players dropping off and a few maybe sticking on a bit more.

we didnt have the necessary talent just to take over and continue a dominance over antrim hurling and i think Lgiel will be the same. its not easy producing players like that each year, unless your kilkenny!

i see antrim becoming a team winning it here and there with no clear dominate club at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 22, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 22, 2015, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
Plenty of chat about intermediate which is good to see. Everyone presuming Senior is a Loughgiel / Dall shootout?

With no animosity or bitterness whatsoever, I genuinely think that LG will struggle to get back to their previous level.

The older players are that bit older and the desire or ability to do those extra defining hard yards just wont be there, not a dig simple fact. Also I dont think the replacements as are strong as they once were.
congrats.  Cdall 2015 champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
Cushendall the team to beat definitely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
There's not that many that old for Loughgiel. Have they any retirements?

There's a few years in them boys yet I'd have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2015, 05:28:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 22, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
Cushendall the team to beat definitely

lol  ;D

to be fair my assessment is based on experience, no team can keep it going no matter what supporters may believe nor want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 22, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
Did anyone actually say Cushendall would win? 2 said they thought Loughgiel would struggle to get back to their best!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 22, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 22, 2015, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
Plenty of chat about intermediate which is good to see. Everyone presuming Senior is a Loughgiel / Dall shootout?

With no animosity or bitterness whatsoever, I genuinely think that LG will struggle to get back to their previous level.

The older players are that bit older and the desire or ability to do those extra defining hard yards just wont be there, not a dig simple fact. Also I dont think the replacements as are strong as they once were.

I think last years defeat will re-invigorate them and the hunger will return to regain the title.
Then maybe Ballycastle will take over!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 22, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
Congrats.  Ballycastle. 2016 champs. Lol :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 22, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 22, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
Congrats.  Ballycastle. 2016 champs. Lol :o

I will snatch your hand off for that. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 22, 2015, 07:12:43 PM
Ah just messing. It will come. All dogs have there day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 22, 2015, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 22, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 22, 2015, 02:50:06 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 22, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
Plenty of chat about intermediate which is good to see. Everyone presuming Senior is a Loughgiel / Dall shootout?

With no animosity or bitterness whatsoever, I genuinely think that LG will struggle to get back to their previous level.

The older players are that bit older and the desire or ability to do those extra defining hard yards just wont be there, not a dig simple fact. Also I dont think the replacements as are strong as they once were.

I think last years defeat will re-invigorate them and the hunger will return to regain the title.
Then maybe Ballycastle will take over!
I could not agree more btdtgtt, the Shams should be reinvigorated, bearing in mind this is our centenary year also!  I think the town are maybe a year away from it yet, though they have the potential to shake things up in coming years.  SG is bound to disagree with me, but he is a bitter Shams man and has no love for the town. Unlike me, I have connections in both camps, so if not the Shams, I'm hoping the town push on somewhat.  ;) ;D  Take it easy now SG, ffs. ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2015, 09:53:30 PM
Anyone that thinks a manager player or even a real supporter believes things mentioned on a daft forum will actually make a difference is crackers lol... Bitta a craic but influences teams?? Never
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 22, 2015, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 22, 2015, 07:12:43 PM
Ah just messing. It will come. All dogs have there day.
Hi SG, Kevin here!  A bit inconsistent don't you think, and I quote?  "sham man.    " There is not one hurling man in Loughgiel wants to see Ballycastle make the breakthrough"  tut, tut, tut!  ??? ;)  ffs take a redner. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 22, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
If you keep feeding the troll, he'll keep coming back. Ignore sham_man/Getevennotcross and the rest of his bogus names and he'll eventually get bored ans go away. What a saddo!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 22, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 22, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
If you keep feeding the troll, he'll keep coming back. Ignore sham_man/Getevennotcross and the rest of his bogus names and he'll eventually get bored ans go away. What a saddo!
what da fcuk ya talkin about mister?  ur a fcukin comedian u r.  I have no notion where you are coming from here, think you have got your wires crossed along the way.  FFS wise up wud ya.  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 23, 2015, 01:19:55 AM
I don't want to see them win it. Being honest.  Doesn't mean they won't. And they will have there day in the sun regardless of what I want.  You rocket!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 23, 2015, 08:56:36 AM
As there's a heated debate on the Antrim football thread about paying outside managers, would that be commonplace within any hurling clubs in Antrim?

It certainly wouldn't be with us, as I think our managers don't even get expenses, albeit a few quid for washing the jerseys, that's possibly it.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 23, 2015, 08:56:36 AM
As there's a heated debate on the Antrim football thread about paying outside managers, would that be commonplace within any hurling clubs in Antrim?

It certainly wouldn't be with us, as I think our managers don't even get expenses, albeit a few quid for washing the jerseys, that's possibly it.

Expenses for washing jersey's in gererous!
Personally I don't feel any manager should be getting "paid" any more than a player should.
Granted, out of pocket expenses are something not many of us would argue with.
And therein lies the problem - the rule is un-enforceable.
Joe Brolly's idea of only cub & county men taking their own teams is not without flaws - but in my opinion its better than the open market that currently exists.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
ive made my view on that whole idea in the football thread.

i can see why clubs do it but i dont agree with it. no one gets paid to manage Dunloy at any level and no one ever will. our club has enough good people hopefully that every year we will mentors in place.

its not easy to continue this at times and for the past 2 years no one wanted to take our minor football team due to them being quite weak and low on numbers. we didn't field at that grade for 2 years. its unfortunate but what can you do?

had we offered someone money to take them im sure they would have done it but would it have made any difference to how they would have done? no. thankfully we have a team and a willing management in place to take them this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2015, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
ive made my view on that whole idea in the football thread.

i can see why clubs do it but i dont agree with it. no one gets paid to manage Dunloy at any level and no one ever will. our club has enough good people hopefully that every year we will mentors in place.

its not easy to continue this at times and for the past 2 years no one wanted to take our minor football team due to them being quite weak and low on numbers. we didn't field at that grade for 2 years. its unfortunate but what can you do?

had we offered someone money to take them im sure they would have done it but would it have made any difference to how they would have done? no. thankfully we have a team and a willing management in place to take them this year.

Proper order. Fair play.
The idea of celebrity paid mangers making a living off the back of the GAA (without any accountability) sickens me.
It's not the way our Assoication should be - and any excuse about it being the way of society/sport is a cop out.
We have control over our own destiny in this matter - going down this road will destory us from within.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
What about Clubs paying a coach or a physical trainer to come in once a week? (He's not the manager) Is this the same as paying a manager? Just wondering what peoples opinions on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 23, 2015, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
What about Clubs paying a coach or a physical trainer to come in once a week? (He's not the manager) Is this the same as paying a manager? Just wondering what peoples opinions on this?

IMO a physical trainer/ nutritionist/ physio are all specialist roles that might not necessarily exist within a club. A coach can come from within a club to me that is the difference.

Clubs should always be striving to make the best of their own resources and trying to get their own coaches up to the best level that they can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 23, 2015, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 23, 2015, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
ive made my view on that whole idea in the football thread.

i can see why clubs do it but i dont agree with it. no one gets paid to manage Dunloy at any level and no one ever will. our club has enough good people hopefully that every year we will mentors in place.

its not easy to continue this at times and for the past 2 years no one wanted to take our minor football team due to them being quite weak and low on numbers. we didn't field at that grade for 2 years. its unfortunate but what can you do?

had we offered someone money to take them im sure they would have done it but would it have made any difference to how they would have done? no. thankfully we have a team and a willing management in place to take them this year.

Proper order. Fair play.
The idea of celebrity paid mangers making a living off the back of the GAA (without any accountability) sickens me.
It's not the way our Assoication should be - and any excuse about it being the way of society/sport is a cop out.
We have control over our own destiny in this matter - going down this road will destory us from within.
Couldn't agree more btdtgtt, the voluntary ethos of our association, both at county and club level has been trampled over by pot hunters and gold diggers.  No allegiance to a specific club and and can walk away with their carpet bag bulging.  Clubs in particular have only themselves to blame.  I have always been of the opinion clubs should proliferate their own coaches, managers, mentors etc.  Think it is a bot rich of Brolly all the same, to be dictating over amateurism v professionalism!  Just seems like a mind set at present for clubs to head hunt at great cost in pursuit of success and lifting some elusive silverware.  I for one, am all for indigenous committed club coaches and managers. As for the specialists, such as trainers, fitness and conditioning coaches, dieticians, physios etc.  this has all come about at a cost to volunteer and club members.  All this has no place in the GAA for a family and community orientated organisation.  Sadly, it's with us to stay by the looks of things, like the smoking, eating, drinking habit, it will be hard to kick, as it has taken its hold.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2015, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
What about Clubs paying a coach or a physical trainer to come in once a week? (He's not the manager) Is this the same as paying a manager? Just wondering what peoples opinions on this?

The "Brolly-rule" with never be perfect, things like this will crop up.
However, it's better than what we have at the moment.
Anyone jumping between clubs for a wage is not what I recognise as a GAA man, and I think clubs which permit this are just as bad.
The advantage of being a our own master here is we don't have to succumb to this - we can hold on to our own values. Why trade-in the very ethos that has made the GAA what it is in Irish society. It's self destruction, it's suicide.
Adopting a "sure its just the way it is" attitude is not good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
What about Clubs paying a coach or a physical trainer to come in once a week? (He's not the manager) Is this the same as paying a manager? Just wondering what peoples opinions on this?

i have no problem with this at all. most teams run fund raisers to collect a pot of money to help them along in a year which goes to equipment, training, bonding sessions etc. i think these are good things and help a team.

they are there to help the team on a temp basis fitting into a managers planning for the season. some only are around for 1 month others a bit longer for a season and then go on to another role

in an ideal world you would have these guys in your club to do it for free but being realistic they are as rare as hens teeth so to avail of this type of service you need to go looking for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 23, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
What about Clubs paying a coach or a physical trainer to come in once a week? (He's not the manager) Is this the same as paying a manager? Just wondering what peoples opinions on this?

i have no problem with this at all. most teams run fund raisers to collect a pot of money to help them along in a year which goes to equipment, training, bonding sessions etc. i think these are good things and help a team.

they are there to help the team on a temp basis fitting into a managers planning for the season. some only are around for 1 month others a bit longer for a season and then go on to another role

in an ideal world you would have these guys in your club to do it for free but being realistic they are as rare as hens teeth so to avail of this type of service you need to go looking for them
I totally agree of where your coming from DR in terms of equipment, training, bonding sessions etc. most certainly beneficial for a team or club.  But spend the hard earned cash resource in house amongst players/teams , but not for doling it out to some Prima Donna as a source of 2nd income, which he of course does not pay tax on!  Absolute joke in some cases.  What's even worse, is that some Prima Donna from within their own club should be demanding such payments.  I can certainly think of a few football clubs over the years who got caught out by their own supposed loyal members over the years, I'll not name them of course,through fear of causing offence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 23, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
Kilmallock by 20 points!!! Anybody? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 24, 2015, 02:31:02 AM
 Chuid eile i siochain young Deeney. Thoughts and prayers with his family and St Aidans.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 24, 2015, 08:45:21 AM
Is ceart.
I fear we are hearing of these tragedies more often.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 24, 2015, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 24, 2015, 02:31:02 AM
Chuid eile i siochain young Deeney. Thoughts and prayers with his family and St Aidans.
Sad news indeed, terrible.  May he rest in peace.

The suits in Jones Road have certainly done Portaferry no favours, requiring the Ports to travel to Semple Stadium. Grossly unfair if you ask me. Why not O'Moore Park - Loais, Cussack Park - Westmeath, Parnell Parlk- Dublin, just fails logic???  Bloody marvellous, eh!  Good luck to them all the same and the same to Rosaa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 23, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
Kilmallock by 20 points!!! Anybody?
not a chance.  Am giving ports a good fighting chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 24, 2015, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 23, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
Kilmallock by 20 points!!! Anybody?
not a chance.  Am giving ports a good fighting chance.
Have to concur with SG, Portaferry very capable of putting in a performance, as stated before, championship is championship.  Anything may happen on the day.  I hope they give a good account of the selves either way.  A win would equally be very welcome and it is always possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 24, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
Love the optimism, boys(even if it's false). They will get destroyed. Bad team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 12:27:01 AM
But sure according to some on here, and in the wider north Antrim Gaa community, the Munster and Limerick champions aren't up to much. Certainly that was the belief of most contributors on here three years ago.  ;)

Well, unless the general synopsis has changed, the majority on here would fancy the ports. Yes?

Personally I believe they're in with a shout. If they don't get nervous and keep the work rate going they'll be there out there abouts. Good luck to them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 12:40:28 AM
It was only theone year the limerick champions weren't up to much sie - they're much better now  ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 12:40:28 AM
It was only theone year the limerick champions weren't up to much sie - they're much better now  ;-)
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 12:40:28 AM
It was only theone year the limerick champions weren't up to much sie - they're much better now  ;-)
That 2011/2012 year was atrocious  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 12:53:34 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 12:40:28 AM
It was only theone year the limerick champions weren't up to much sie - they're much better now  ;-)
That 2011/2012 year was atrocious  ;D
Aye, it was the same in '83 sure. St Rynagh's worst ever Offaly and Leinster champions. Never mind they were 3 times all Ireland finalists.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Tony Doran. He was 42 you know. Legend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Tony Doran. He was 42 you know. Legend.

Its when you meet Kilkenny teams you're in trouble 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
Is the Rossa game the curtain raiser to the Antrim Dublin Game at Parnell Park today or at another venue?  Just to settle an argument, a fellow traveller said it was ffs. ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
Is the Rossa game the curtain raiser to the Antrim Dublin Game at Parnell Park today or at another venue?  Just to settle an argument, a fellow traveller said it was ffs. ::) ???

Is it not in Mullingar ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 25, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
Is the Rossa game the curtain raiser to the Antrim Dublin Game at Parnell Park today or at another venue?  Just to settle an argument, a fellow traveller said it was ffs. ::) ???

Is it not in Mullingar ?
This bollocks in the car says it's a curtain raiser to Walsh Cup game ffs, think he must be on something. :o I though it was somewhere else all the same, but this clown is adamant????   ::)

Sorted, I think he is a coke short of a happy meal!!!!, just got factual confirmation, it is is Cussack Park, Mullingar.   fckin idiot.  ::) :-[ Now discussing whether we should we dump him out on A1.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Tony Doran. He was 42 you know. Legend.

Its when you meet Kilkenny teams you're in trouble 😉
played one, lost one.  ;)

We aren't alone in that regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 25, 2015, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Tony Doran. He was 42 you know. Legend.

Its when you meet Kilkenny teams you're in trouble 😉
played one, lost one.  ;)

We aren't alone in that regard.

Is it really hard to accept that given the quality of the teams that had been competing in the AI series in previous years that drawing Na Paisaigh and Coolderry was a good draw.  Neither where the quality of Birr, ballyhale, portumna, james Stephen, Newtonshamdrum etc.  Credit you did the business when it mattered and accepted it sounds like sniping when your neighbours say it (especially given our record) but it is what it is!

Greece want a euro's, they took advantage of a dip in fortunes of the big euro nations, Germany, Spain, Holland and France! In doing so achieved something amazing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Yes it is. And it is just what you said it is, sniping. Might I remind you that those teams were still competing in their respective county championships. They got beat by better teams. Unless, of course, you're implying that the standard of club hurling in those counties has wained. Which is nonsense. It was improving year on year, until we won it again of course.  ::)

Gort were beat out of the park by coolderry in 2012. Gort beat the current all Ireland champions in the Galway final last December.  Do you see?

It is what it is.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 25, 2015, 10:45:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 25, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
The Lord delivered us Buffers Alley and Mount Sion in the 80s. We love the Dall really in Glenariffe  :-X
Tony Doran. He was 42 you know. Legend.

Its when you meet Kilkenny teams you're in trouble 😉
played one, lost one.  ;)

We aren't alone in that regard.

Is it really hard to accept that given the quality of the teams that had been competing in the AI series in previous years that drawing Na Paisaigh and Coolderry was a good draw.  Neither where the quality of Birr, ballyhale, portumna, james Stephen, Newtonshamdrum etc.  Credit you did the business when it mattered and accepted it sounds like sniping when your neighbours say it (especially given our record) but it is what it is!

Greece want a euro's, they took advantage of a dip in fortunes of the big euro nations, Germany, Spain, Holland and France! In doing so achieved something amazing
ach ur ballix, u still have to beat whats in front of you. Na Pairsaigh were no slouches ffs and against Coolderry we were on fire. Dont be such a bitter dipstick ffs. :-[  I suppose in '83 we got an easy run as well??  Despite everything, two TM's have graced our cabinet, 😊thats all that matters. Fcuk sake, get a grip wud ya!  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Yes it is. And it is just what you said it is, sniping. Might I remind you that those teams were still competing in their respective county championships. They got beat by better teams. Unless, of course, you're implying that the standard of club hurling in those counties has wained. Which is nonsense. It was improving year on year, until we won it again of course.  ::)

Gort were beat out of the park by coolderry in 2012. Gort beat the current all Ireland champions in the Galway final last December.  Do you see?

It is what it is.  ;)

Was this years Antrim championship poor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 25, 2015, 12:15:16 PM
For the record it was SIE started this with a snipe at perceived sniping years ago!

But any fool would agree those teams didn't compare to the team I mentioned in their pomp! They weren't in their pomp that year so others came through! Simple really!

Was the Greek team that won the euro's the same standard as the Spanish/french or germans!

SIE wanted someone to raise to the bait so he could flog the whole thing again! I'm the fool for responding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Yes it is. And it is just what you said it is, sniping. Might I remind you that those teams were still competing in their respective county championships. They got beat by better teams. Unless, of course, you're implying that the standard of club hurling in those counties has wained. Which is nonsense. It was improving year on year, until we won it again of course.  ::)

Gort were beat out of the park by coolderry in 2012. Gort beat the current all Ireland champions in the Galway final last December.  Do you see?

It is what it is.  ;)

Lottery game, any match played in December is fecking crazy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Yes it is. And it is just what you said it is, sniping. Might I remind you that those teams were still competing in their respective county championships. They got beat by better teams. Unless, of course, you're implying that the standard of club hurling in those counties has wained. Which is nonsense. It was improving year on year, until we won it again of course.  ::)

Gort were beat out of the park by coolderry in 2012. Gort beat the current all Ireland champions in the Galway final last December.  Do you see?

It is what it is.  ;)

Lottery game, any match played in December is fecking crazy
Say that to the Gort Hurlers. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 12:41:51 PM
Sure isn't  soccer and rugby games played in December? All come to the same conclusion - a result ffs!  ;D Some team wins the other loses. Ya still have to beat whats in front of ya.  ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 25, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Rossa game is on the radio?  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 25, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Rossa game is on the radio?  Thanks in advance.
Aye Mickey, Kevin here, it's on my Radio!  ;) ;D  Hope that really gets up ur pipe, your good at dishing it out fffs!  ::) ??? :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 25, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Rossa game is on the radio?  Thanks in advance.
according to the rossa Twitter feed it's on WLR.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 25, 2015, 02:03:34 PM
Thanks SIE. Goal for Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 02:37:39 PM
Rossa 9 up at half time. Big wind advantage for Rossa in first half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 03:01:58 PM
2-8 to 1-5. Into last ten minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 03:10:16 PM
Dublin 0-21 Antrim 2-10 currently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Yes it is. And it is just what you said it is, sniping. Might I remind you that those teams were still competing in their respective county championships. They got beat by better teams. Unless, of course, you're implying that the standard of club hurling in those counties has wained. Which is nonsense. It was improving year on year, until we won it again of course.  ::)

Gort were beat out of the park by coolderry in 2012. Gort beat the current all Ireland champions in the Galway final last December.  Do you see?

It is what it is.  ;)

Lottery game, any match played in December is fecking crazy
Say that to the Gort Hurlers.

Any Gort hurlers on this thread.... Ya won the final in December and its a lottery... Phew
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 03:19:16 PM
Well done to Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 03:28:48 PM
Two red cards sie?

27-18 at present to dubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 25, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 03:28:48 PM
Two red cards sie?

27-18 at present to dubs.
Yeah Campbell & McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
Well done Rossa. Antrim clubs continue to impress on the national stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
Well done Rossa. Antrim clubs continue to impress on the national stage
Yeah well done Rossa, pity about the Parnell disaster. Never realised how much of a slabber McManus actually is, ffs he does some fcukin gurnin.  :-[  ;)

I'm sure HS is a happy man this evening, Rossa in another AI Final, sure would he not be.  ;D ;)  Another chance for an Antrim Hurling club to get over the line, that would make it 3 years in a row, a sign of progress possibly??? 😀😆

Shams,  Creggan an now potential for Rossa! A great opportunity for Rossa where others have failed. 😲😏👀  Ffs, thats sure to get a rise  :). 😈
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
Amazing result for Rossa, fair play to the lads, decent team and plenty to give in the final. Well try and get down for that..

As for the snipping lads, show a bit of humility. End up becoming the Hogan Stand. We this and they won that, SERIOUSLY??????

As far as I can see most of the posters on here won feck all ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
Amazing result for Rossa, fair play to the lads, decent team and plenty to give in the final. Well try and get down for that..

As for the snipping lads, show a bit of humility. End up becoming the Hogan Stand. We this and they won that, SERIOUSLY??????

As far as I can see most of the posters on here won feck all ;)
I won a medal for the mixed doubles table tennis at school I'll have you know.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2015, 06:15:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
Amazing result for Rossa, fair play to the lads, decent team and plenty to give in the final. Well try and get down for that..

As for the snipping lads, show a bit of humility. End up becoming the Hogan Stand. We this and they won that, SERIOUSLY??????

As far as I can see most of the posters on here won feck all ;)
I won a medal for the mixed doubles table tennis at school I'll have you know.  :P

That I can believe  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 25, 2015, 04:03:52 PM
Well done Rossa. Antrim clubs continue to impress on the national stage
Yeah well done Rossa, pity about the Parnell disaster. Never realised how much of a slabber McManus actually is, ffs he does some fcukin gurnin.  :-[  ;)

I'm sure HS is a happy man this evening, Rossa in another AI Final, sure would he not be.  ;D ;)  Another chance for an Antrim Hurling club to get over the line, that would make it 3 years in a row, a sign of progress possibly??? 😀😆

Shams,  Creggan an now potential for Rossa! A great opportunity for Rossa where others have failed. 😲😏👀  Ffs, thats sure to get a rise  :). 😈
Thanks, very pleased indeed.

We hurled really well and were always in control. Shot a right few wides but it was very windy.
Looking forward to the final now.

Put the team up Hardstation if you can, massive for the club. Now just go on and win the dam thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 25, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
Congratulations and Good Luck in the Final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 25, 2015, 07:11:32 PM
Congrats to Rossa, Maith thú.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 07:13:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
Off the top of my head

Rocky
Chunk Eoghan O'Neill Aidan Orchin
Stephen Shannon Blondie Ciaran Orchin
Deaghlan Murphy Gerard Walsh
Chris McIlhatton Mickey Armstrong Cricky McGuinness
Michael Turley Colm McVeigh Tommy Morgan

There were a couple of switches but that's about the height of it.

Thanks few strong lines there with good physical presence all over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 25, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Great result HS, most definitely.There would be a few boyz here would begrudge Rossa the victory though, I'm nae one a them. The very best if luck to Rossa in  the final come Feb.👍!

Would be good to see a Belfast club get over the hurling line.✔ Not so sure others would agree all the same! 😔😕


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?
Yeah, he came on as a sub.

Close sticking to football? What about Chris Hamill?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2015, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?
Yeah, he came on as a sub.

Close sticking to football? What about Chris Hamill?
Yeah. Chris is retired.

I think we've Beattie back for the final too which is a major plus.

Will Seaghan Shannon make the final? What date is the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?
Yeah, he came on as a sub.

Close sticking to football? What about Chris Hamill?
Yeah. Chris is retired.

I think we've Beattie back for the final too which is a major plus.

Aye loads of options and a strong bench important.. I hope they go on to win it, who's in the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:37:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?
Yeah, he came on as a sub.

Close sticking to football? What about Chris Hamill?
Yeah. Chris is retired.

I think we've Beattie back for the final too which is a major plus.

Aye loads of options and a strong bench important.. I hope they go on to win it, who's in the final?
London champions - Kilburn Gaels.

I'm not sure Seaghan will make it. Final is the weekend of 14th/15th February I think.

Couple Antrim guys on that team, massive chance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:41:28 PM
What Antrim ones play for them?

Knocker from the Johnnies? Think someone up the Glens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 25, 2015, 08:57:12 PM
Well done indeed. Will be good for a lot of those younger players to have that big game experience. Those London clubs are always hard to predict. Didn't Robert Emmet's of London win by about 20 in the final of that competition once?

Bookies underestimating Northern teams once again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
They have squads and where they're from on their web site. No antrim ones on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2015, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2015, 07:20:56 PM
Does Gavin Bell still play?

Didn't play for Rossa this year as he reckoned it was an embarrassment for Rossa to play in IHC, came back for Ulster final I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 25, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Fair play to the rossa lads. Brilliant result. Good luck in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2015, 10:13:56 PM
That's potentially a very good Rossa team, great result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 25, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 25, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Fair play to the rossa lads. Brilliant result. Good luck in the final

+1 great result and great to see.

Had heard their opponents beat Portaferry in a friendly (true hardstation?) so was a little worried but as noted that is a good team with options on the bench and to come back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 25, 2015, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 25, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 25, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Fair play to the rossa lads. Brilliant result. Good luck in the final

+1 great result and great to see.

Had heard their opponents beat Portaferry in a friendly (true hardstation?) so was a little worried but as noted that is a good team with options on the bench and to come back.
Never heard that. We hurled really well and fought like fcuk for every ball but they weren't great tbh. We were far superior from start to finish and should have won by more. Portaferry would have had a very off day to lose to them.

Will have to check the source...

Well done again. Magic to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 26, 2015, 12:29:12 AM
Tremendous result for Rossa. I wasn't too sure they would get a result on Sunday, probably likes others! Fantastic for the club, lets hope Rossa push on from todays win, bloody marvellous all the same. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
well done rossa! listened to the game on the radio at home and it was great listening to the smug Waterford broadcasters having to admit they were 2nd best.

great result for the club and antrim hurling.

if this doesnt give hurling a real shot in the arm in Rossa then nothing will. this should spur them on this season hopefully. antrim needs hurling in belfast at the top flight and only having one team in st johns isnt enough.

well done again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 10:40:25 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 25, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 25, 2015, 10:13:49 PM
Fair play to the rossa lads. Brilliant result. Good luck in the final

+1 great result and great to see.

Had heard their opponents beat Portaferry in a friendly (true hardstation?) so was a little worried but as noted that is a good team with options on the bench and to come back.
Never heard that. We hurled really well and fought like fcuk for every ball but they weren't great tbh. We were far superior from start to finish and should have won by more. Portaferry would have had a very off day to lose to them.

Not to take anything away from the victory at the weekend, but is this not an indication that Rossa do not belong at this level.

I understand that the club wanted to take a break to rebuild, but the feeling I get when I see this result is not one of overwhelming pride in a club doing well from Antrim in an All Ireland competition. It is more tinged with a bit of sadness that they should be doing this at senior level and maybe competing in a couple of weeks time in a competition that they should be in.

But maybe that is me being a bit too pragmatic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

I'm sure the Rossa lads are looking at this as a building block to progress at senior as it looks like quite a young team they're putting out.

Just like Mount Leinster Rangers, who won an intermediate before they got to the senior final three or four years later, it'll instill a bit of confidence into the players and so on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 26, 2015, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

I'm sure the Rossa lads are looking at this as a building block to progress at senior as it looks like quite a young team they're putting out.

Just like Mount Leinster Rangers, who won an intermediate before they got to the senior final three or four years later, it'll instill a bit of confidence into the players and so on.

To my mind they started 2014 as an intermediate team, had a great run in the league but compared to Div 1. there's a fair few average sides in 2 so no big news there. They didn't look world beaters in their Antrim campaign but thankfully for them they may be starting to realize some of their potential. Hats off to their hard work and best of luck in the final, hope they win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
well done rossa! listened to the game on the radio at home and it was great listening to the smug Waterford broadcasters having to admit they were 2nd best.

great result for the club and antrim hurling.

if this doesnt give hurling a real shot in the arm in Rossa then nothing will. this should spur them on this season hopefully. antrim needs hurling in belfast at the top flight and only having one team in st johns isnt enough.

well done again

Last I heard we were div on and senior finalist 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 26, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2015, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 25, 2015, 08:41:28 PM
What Antrim ones play for them?

Knocker from the Johnnies? Think someone up the Glens
Nah, Knocker and Maskey play for Fullen Gaels. They won easy today in the Junior.


Kilburn gaels have a fella from Lurgan playing for them, not sure if any Antrim players on the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2015, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2015, 08:46:35 AM
well done rossa! listened to the game on the radio at home and it was great listening to the smug Waterford broadcasters having to admit they were 2nd best.

great result for the club and antrim hurling.

if this doesnt give hurling a real shot in the arm in Rossa then nothing will. this should spur them on this season hopefully. antrim needs hurling in belfast at the top flight and only having one team in st johns isnt enough.

well done again

Last I heard we were div on and senior finalist 😉

my bad, lol forgot about use!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 26, 2015, 12:00:36 PM
Was in Mullingar yesterday - and Waterford today!
Rossa got off to a blinding start with two goals and that gap stayed throughout.
Cappoquin had a man sent off before half time which helped no end as Rossa could play the xtra man in defence against the wind in the 2nd half.
The Quinners looked like they ahd given up the gost long before the full time whistle.
Rossa half back line was the winning of it for me - they were superb.
Look to be a very young Rossa team and I think there will be work to do to regain standing at senior but fair play to them yesterday by far the better team. The young boy took both goals really well and that lifted them. Donal Armstrong's young fella was excellent also porovided physicaility needed. Good luck to Rossa in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

It's probably a fair enough point to be honest but I wouldn't begrudge them their opportunity to re-build and regenerate hurling in their club through their efforts although that didn't exactly work for St John's.  They went unbeaten in Division 2 and so far haven't been beaten which tells you they are too strong for where they are but as I said I still wouldn't begrudge them it for the overall benefit of Belfast hurling.

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

It's probably a fair enough point to be honest but I wouldn't begrudge them their opportunity to re-build and regenerate hurling in their club through their efforts although that didn't exactly work for St John's.  They went unbeaten in Division 2 and so far haven't been beaten which tells you they are too strong for where they are but as I said I still wouldn't begrudge them it for the overall benefit of Belfast hurling.

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

It's probably a fair enough point to be honest but I wouldn't begrudge them their opportunity to re-build and regenerate hurling in their club through their efforts although that didn't exactly work for St John's.  They went unbeaten in Division 2 and so far haven't been beaten which tells you they are too strong for where they are but as I said I still wouldn't begrudge them it for the overall benefit of Belfast hurling.

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best

sure we were done then according to some, that victory means nothing  ;D

how do yous think you will fare this year after last season? getting to the final will have done the hurling no harm at all, regardless of what people may think of the route to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Rossa haven't been a problem to you? Not as far as I can always remember. Any wins over St Galls have had over Rossa haven't always been convincing.

How long are you going to quote your win over Dunloy and your loss, yes loss, to Cushendall?

Don't let people's opinions rile you in future. It might bring out the d.ickhead in you especially if it touches a nerve. You threw out the SHC final. Just as handy not to make the point that it was a fluke draw that got you there. Who did you beat on the way?

St Galls are a half decent side. Third best in Belfast in my opinion. Cushendall didnt have to get out of 2nd gear against you in the SHC final.

St John's went out of my head by the way so IN MY OPINION Rossa would be second at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Rossa haven't been a problem to you? Not as far as I can always remember. Any wins over St Galls have had over Rossa haven't always been convincing.

How long are you going to quote your win over Dunloy and your loss, yes loss, to Cushendall?

Don't let people's opinions rile you in future. It might bring out the d.ickhead in you especially if it touches a nerve. You threw out the SHC final. Just as handy not to make the point that it was a fluke draw that got you there. Who did you beat on the way?

St Galls are a half decent side. Third best in Belfast in my opinion. Cushendall didnt have to get out of 2nd gear against you in the SHC final.

St John's went out of my head by the way so IN MY OPINION Rossa would be second at the minute.

Mickey if you are going to post something then be a least a little accurate, that way the dcikhead wont be brought out of you. You said Rossa were the best side in Belfast, wrong on two accounts, the Johnnies and ourselves are both senior, and Sarsfields last year were senior. Rossa haven't beaten us really in past ten years. Ask Rossa lads the last time they won a senior championship match, that may just give you an indication as to when Rossa were a decent team. Now I firmly believe you are talking about tradition and what juvenile teams are like but to use your quote

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

What is this based on?  And before we go anywhere I'd rather have Rossa's tradition in hurling than what we currently have, but what we currently have is better than Rossa's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
When I hear the words "unreal" and unbelieveable" bandied about the place I'd have to admit I wouldn't see it that way myself. That's not to take away from their victory and their hope that it drives them on to get back to being a Senior club like they should be. I'm sure in the mind of the Rossa stalwarts they know there's a truth here. Hope they go on and win it

It's probably a fair enough point to be honest but I wouldn't begrudge them their opportunity to re-build and regenerate hurling in their club through their efforts although that didn't exactly work for St John's.  They went unbeaten in Division 2 and so far haven't been beaten which tells you they are too strong for where they are but as I said I still wouldn't begrudge them it for the overall benefit of Belfast hurling.

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best

sure we were done then according to some, that victory means nothing  ;D

how do yous think you will fare this year after last season? getting to the final will have done the hurling no harm at all, regardless of what people may think of the route to it.

We will be a yoyo club for a while DR, I'd say certain retirements will kick in maybe this season and the lads that have been together for so long will more than likely retire or slow down in the next few years, we've a few good kids coming through but nothing to sustain another run at Championship..... Rossa will be the team sure ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 26, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
Hi Mickey80, Kevin here. I see others have the same opion of you as I have, an utter D***h*ad,  he he he he  ;D, now ffs, maybe you will take that long overdue redner! :-[ :-[ :-[  An absolute tool if the 1st order, and not only in my opinion. ;) ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Rossa haven't been a problem to you? Not as far as I can always remember. Any wins over St Galls have had over Rossa haven't always been convincing.

How long are you going to quote your win over Dunloy and your loss, yes loss, to Cushendall?

Don't let people's opinions rile you in future. It might bring out the d.ickhead in you especially if it touches a nerve. You threw out the SHC final. Just as handy not to make the point that it was a fluke draw that got you there. Who did you beat on the way?

St Galls are a half decent side. Third best in Belfast in my opinion. Cushendall didnt have to get out of 2nd gear against you in the SHC final.

St John's went out of my head by the way so IN MY OPINION Rossa would be second at the minute.

Mickey if you are going to post something then be a least a little accurate, that way the dcikhead wont be brought out of you. You said Rossa were the best side in Belfast, wrong on two accounts, the Johnnies and ourselves are both senior, and Sarsfields last year were senior. Rossa haven't beaten us really in past ten years. Ask Rossa lads the last time they won a senior championship match, that may just give you an indication as to when Rossa were a decent team. Now I firmly believe you are talking about tradition and what juvenile teams are like but to use your quote

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

What is this based on?  And before we go anywhere I'd rather have Rossa's tradition in hurling than what we currently have, but what we currently have is better than Rossa's

I corrected the Johnnies one if you had bothered reading my second post.

Rossa being in Division 2 of late has been about them rebuilding and getting their house in order, which this year they have certainly done. That makes me believe that they would beat St Galls 4 times out of 5 with their better players, not their tradition or juvenile set up.

Sarsfields are ok but will yoyo like yourselves and you didn't get relegated BECAUSE Sarsfields (that other between-intermediate-and-senior club) were there last year and because Ballygalget were awful. You've only been up one year so don't be getting ahead of yourselves. Just because a team enters the Senior Championship doesn't make them a senior standard club. Weren't Cloughmills in that Championship and your side of the draw last year?

Player for player and pound for pound, Rossa would beat you and I think I'll be proven correct next year. All the same, it's great to see three Belfast clubs in Division 1.

You got touchy first but apologies for calling your behaviour d.ickheaded but I think I might have hit a nerve. How dare I suggest that St Galls might not be as good as they like to think they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Rossa haven't been a problem to you? Not as far as I can always remember. Any wins over St Galls have had over Rossa haven't always been convincing.

How long are you going to quote your win over Dunloy and your loss, yes loss, to Cushendall?

Don't let people's opinions rile you in future. It might bring out the d.ickhead in you especially if it touches a nerve. You threw out the SHC final. Just as handy not to make the point that it was a fluke draw that got you there. Who did you beat on the way?

St Galls are a half decent side. Third best in Belfast in my opinion. Cushendall didnt have to get out of 2nd gear against you in the SHC final.

St John's went out of my head by the way so IN MY OPINION Rossa would be second at the minute.

Mickey if you are going to post something then be a least a little accurate, that way the dcikhead wont be brought out of you. You said Rossa were the best side in Belfast, wrong on two accounts, the Johnnies and ourselves are both senior, and Sarsfields last year were senior. Rossa haven't beaten us really in past ten years. Ask Rossa lads the last time they won a senior championship match, that may just give you an indication as to when Rossa were a decent team. Now I firmly believe you are talking about tradition and what juvenile teams are like but to use your quote

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

What is this based on?  And before we go anywhere I'd rather have Rossa's tradition in hurling than what we currently have, but what we currently have is better than Rossa's

I corrected the Johnnies one if you had bothered reading my second post.

Rossa being in Division 2 of late has been about them rebuilding and getting their house in order, which this year they have certainly done. That makes me believe that they would beat St Galls 4 times out of 5 with their better players, not their tradition or juvenile set up.

Sarsfields are ok but will yoyo like yourselves and you didn't get relegated BECAUSE Sarsfields (that other between-intermediate-and-senior club) were there last year and because Ballygalget were awful. You've only been up one year so don't be getting ahead of yourselves. Just because a team enters the Senior Championship doesn't make them a senior standard club. Weren't Cloughmills in that Championship and your side of the draw last year?

Player for player and pound for pound, Rossa would beat you and I think I'll be proven correct next year. All the same, it's great to see three Belfast clubs in Division 1.

You got touchy first but apologies for calling your behaviour d.ickheaded but I think I might have hit a nerve. How dare I suggest that St Galls might not be as good as they like to think they are.

No nerve touched, you were the one throwing the insults so take a closer look at your own posts.... Next year is next year...... in the past ten years that we have played Rossa we have come out on top in most occasions that can't be disputed so that's all we can go on in recent times? no?

Whether Rossa step up and make the grade in senior is another thing, as Hardstation will say, a lot of false dawns both for Rossa and the Johnnies considering the players that have come through.... We haven't even a manager in place for the coming season so we are already way behind the rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 26, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 04:31:26 PM
Rossa haven't been a problem to you? Not as far as I can always remember. Any wins over St Galls have had over Rossa haven't always been convincing.

How long are you going to quote your win over Dunloy and your loss, yes loss, to Cushendall?

Don't let people's opinions rile you in future. It might bring out the d.ickhead in you especially if it touches a nerve. You threw out the SHC final. Just as handy not to make the point that it was a fluke draw that got you there. Who did you beat on the way?

St Galls are a half decent side. Third best in Belfast in my opinion. Cushendall didnt have to get out of 2nd gear against you in the SHC final.

St John's went out of my head by the way so IN MY OPINION Rossa would be second at the minute.

Mickey if you are going to post something then be a least a little accurate, that way the dcikhead wont be brought out of you. You said Rossa were the best side in Belfast, wrong on two accounts, the Johnnies and ourselves are both senior, and Sarsfields last year were senior. Rossa haven't beaten us really in past ten years. Ask Rossa lads the last time they won a senior championship match, that may just give you an indication as to when Rossa were a decent team. Now I firmly believe you are talking about tradition and what juvenile teams are like but to use your quote

I think they are still the best team in Belfast regardless of St Galls' fortunate route to the SHC final and their staying up in Division 1.  Better team and better players all round and I think that will be proved right next year.

What is this based on?  And before we go anywhere I'd rather have Rossa's tradition in hurling than what we currently have, but what we currently have is better than Rossa's

I corrected the Johnnies one if you had bothered reading my second post.

Rossa being in Division 2 of late has been about them rebuilding and getting their house in order, which this year they have certainly done. That makes me believe that they would beat St Galls 4 times out of 5 with their better players, not their tradition or juvenile set up.

Sarsfields are ok but will yoyo like yourselves and you didn't get relegated BECAUSE Sarsfields (that other between-intermediate-and-senior club) were there last year and because Ballygalget were awful. You've only been up one year so don't be getting ahead of yourselves. Just because a team enters the Senior Championship doesn't make them a senior standard club. Weren't Cloughmills in that Championship and your side of the draw last year?

Player for player and pound for pound, Rossa would beat you and I think I'll be proven correct next year. All the same, it's great to see three Belfast clubs in Division 1.

You got touchy first but apologies for calling your behaviour d.ickheaded but I think I might have hit a nerve. How dare I suggest that St Galls might not be as good as they like to think they are.
Ya nae taukin to me now Mickey80, Kevin will be so dissapointed.  :D ;D ::)  Do ya wanna loan of a spade, keep diggin the hole!?   :)  Ya crack me up ya really do Mick.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 26, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
Mickey80, your lack of knowledge and stats is frightening. Naomh Gall are arguably the no.1 Belfast senior hurling club currently. Not sure how you call Rossa the better team. Can we have some stats or are you just a mouth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best

I started the insults?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 26, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best

I started the insults?
Quit when ur ahead man, thon hole is gettin bigger ffs. Just about big enough for ur gub!! He he he.  ;D :-[  ffs  :-X it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 11:42:54 PM
Quote from: mickey80 on January 26, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
In past ten years Rossa haven't been a problem to us, but don't let that stop you talking rubbish. We also beat dunloy and lost to cushendall very narrowly. But hey you know best

I started the insults?

Were you talking rubbish or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 26, 2015, 11:47:56 PM
How long have we got before we see subs coming out with the beats audios and hipster beards?   ::)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 06:20:42 AM
Saying you were talking rubbish and implying someone is a dcikhead is completely different when we are talking about insults don't you think?

Either way I would think on the bases that having myself played managed and watched our games against Rossa these past few years that we were the better team.... Rossa have always produced crafty skillful hurlers and always will, unfortunately that doesn't win you games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 27, 2015, 07:33:47 AM
There's facts and then there's beliefs. Not always the same thing. Difficult to believe someone would get offended at being called out for trying to dress a belief as fact. My advice would be to grow tf up. Feel free to ignore it if you like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 27, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
To change the topic slightly - anyone at the game in Parnell? Bit of unhappiness over on reservoirdubs about some of Antrim's tackling, on Sutcliffe in particular. Justified or overreaction?

Fair play to Rossa - best of luck to them on the 15th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 27, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
IMO.  :o  St galls have been the best team in Belfast as past 10 years.  St. John's have done nothing but underachieve and rossa have done nothing since they beat us in the final.  Plain and simple in my opinion. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 27, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
IMO.  :o  St galls have been the best team in Belfast as past 10 years.  St. John's have done nothing but underachieve and rossa have done nothing since they beat us in the final.  Plain and simple in my opinion.

Rossa won the Ulster league a few years after their Antrim championship win.
A trophy not a one off game!
The last game I remember between the two teams - was won by Rossa at Milltown in Division2 2years ago? Did they miss each other in Division 1 promoted at different times? (open to correction maybe I just didnt get to the games).

In a one-off / big day I feel Rossa would hold the upper hand of the city teams - in terms of consistency St galls have the edge over them.
St Johns could again, in turn, argue the consistency bit out over St Galls.

For me since none of the above are championship challengers I would look towards consistency in Div1 status and competitive in championship.

All of it however is a bit mute - with the season ahead containing all three in divison 1 in senior thats all that matters.
I am hoping to see the three of them still in division 1 next year - although thats unlikely. Solidify positions here for a while is the only way to make in-roads and give the lads above Ballymena a game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 27, 2015, 02:14:32 PM
IMO.  :o  St galls have been the best team in Belfast as past 10 years.  St. John's have done nothing but underachieve and rossa have done nothing since they beat us in the final.  Plain and simple in my opinion.

Rossa won the Ulster league a few years after their Antrim championship win.
A trophy not a one off game!
The last game I remember between the two teams - was won by Rossa at Milltown in Division2 2years ago? Did they miss each other in Division 1 promoted at different times? (open to correction maybe I just didnt get to the games).

In a one-off / big day I feel Rossa would hold the upper hand of the city teams - in terms of consistency St galls have the edge over them.
St Johns could again, in turn, argue the consistency bit out over St Galls.

For me since none of the above are championship challengers I would look towards consistency in Div1 status and competitive in championship.

All of it however is a bit mute - with the season ahead containing all three in divison 1 in senior thats all that matters.
I am hoping to see the three of them still in division 1 next year - although thats unlikely. Solidify positions here for a while is the only way to make in-roads and give the lads above Ballymena a game!

I've already quoted that we are on the road downwards with an aging team and will not really compete for a while yet, we've a couple of good wee juveniles teams coming through but won't happen for next 5/6 years in my book.. Rossa and the Johnnies can certainly fight it out for the top honours of Belfast, we'll go off to mediocrity 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 27, 2015, 03:50:02 PM
st johns always promise alot but just seem to fall to an arse in the middle of the season. they remind me of ballycastle.

rossa have a proud name in hurling in antrim though over this past lot of years they have fallen by the wayside. alot of promise from younger lads but they never seem to be consistent enough to mount any sort of challenge.

st galls will always be a football club in peoples minds and hurling will be a close second but they need to have youth coming up through to keep the team at senior level.

whose the better of the 3 at the moment? based on last season i would say st galls. rossa have done well to get to the all ireland final and i wont deny that but its intermediate level, a step below st johns and st galls. i want to see them this year playing cushendall and loughgiel to see how they fare as those 2 are the top 2 sides in antrim.

i honestly think that cloney will struggle this season in div 1 to pick up win with rossa and st galls above them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 27, 2015, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 27, 2015, 03:50:02 PM
st johns always promise alot but just seem to fall to an arse in the middle of the season. they remind me of ballycastle.

rossa have a proud name in hurling in antrim though over this past lot of years they have fallen by the wayside. alot of promise from younger lads but they never seem to be consistent enough to mount any sort of challenge.

st galls will always be a football club in peoples minds and hurling will be a close second but they need to have youth coming up through to keep the team at senior level.

whose the better of the 3 at the moment? based on last season i would say st galls. rossa have done well to get to the all ireland final and i wont deny that but its intermediate level, a step below st johns and st galls. i want to see them this year playing cushendall and loughgiel to see how they fare as those 2 are the top 2 sides in antrim.

i honestly think that cloney will struggle this season in div 1 to pick up win with rossa and st galls above them.

Is there three down this year?

On the Rossa thing, they seem to be churning out pretty decent underage teams all the way down. Did they not win the minor and U14 championships in Antrim in 2014?

Saw their U-12's at our place last year and they'd some handy hurlers on it although not enough of them, maybe they didn't travel but technique wise they were good and weren't relying on size or anything like to carry them through.

Johnnies seem to have went mad with a particular set of youngsters and don't seem to have followed up on it.

It takes several years of competitive underage teams to make an impact at senior IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 27, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 27, 2015, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 27, 2015, 03:50:02 PM
st johns always promise alot but just seem to fall to an arse in the middle of the season. they remind me of ballycastle.

rossa have a proud name in hurling in antrim though over this past lot of years they have fallen by the wayside. alot of promise from younger lads but they never seem to be consistent enough to mount any sort of challenge.

st galls will always be a football club in peoples minds and hurling will be a close second but they need to have youth coming up through to keep the team at senior level.

whose the better of the 3 at the moment? based on last season i would say st galls. rossa have done well to get to the all ireland final and i wont deny that but its intermediate level, a step below st johns and st galls. i want to see them this year playing cushendall and loughgiel to see how they fare as those 2 are the top 2 sides in antrim.

i honestly think that cloney will struggle this season in div 1 to pick up win with rossa and st galls above them.

Is there three down this year?

On the Rossa thing, they seem to be churning out pretty decent underage teams all the way down. Did they not win the minor and U14 championships in Antrim in 2014?

Saw their U-12's at our place last year and they'd some handy hurlers on it although not enough of them, maybe they didn't travel but technique wise they were good and weren't relying on size or anything like to carry them through.

Johnnies seem to have went mad with a particular set of youngsters and don't seem to have followed up on it.

It takes several years of competitive underage teams to make an impact at senior IMO.

im not sure if its one or two down this year, its keeps changing lol

rossa lost to ourselves in the U14 county final. they were pretty good although they seemed to be reliant on couple of better players. if they could keep them all right up through it would help them. players seem to leave at under age level as they grow older in the city. always has been the case sadly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Yeah, Id love to see a Belfast team pushing the country teams all the way, was great when that Rossa team of the late 80's early 90's was so strong followed by that out of the blue win against Loughgiel.

But as you have said DR, keeping these players together year in year out is the problem, we have managed well at football because we kept on winning!!! Easier to keep on winning and having everyone together than keep all players when losing all the time....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 27, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
Funny feeling I heard a rumbling that it's 3 down (and one up from Div 2)  to leave the 8 teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Yeah, Id love to see a Belfast team pushing the country teams all the way, was great when that Rossa team of the late 80's early 90's was so strong followed by that out of the blue win against Loughgiel.

But as you have said DR, keeping these players together year in year out is the problem, we have managed well at football because we kept on winning!!! Easier to keep on winning and having everyone together than keep all players when losing all the time....

I think the out of blue bit is inaccurate - Rossa defeated a Dunloy team with the previous three championships under their belt and Although I didn't make the final it came as no surprise to me to hear in Florida they had won a deserved championship. Rossa had lost out narrowly to the great Dunloy sides in previous years which skewed their true ability. And went on to win that Ulster league also.

St John's made finals in 89 against loughgiel (could have won that day - nasty injury to pedan and I might recall Pearse McFall was sent off). They also made a final in the 90s but we're no competition for Dunloy.

St Galls strength for me is their ability to stay consistent in the "lesser code" at Milltown and that's been really impressive - but without ever looking like winning anything.

But like I have said - I think it's a bit of a null argument.
All three in divino one and senior now - the proof will be in the pudding. Results will settle it.
But I might add - being the best team in belfast is irrelevant if you're nowhere near as good as the glens teams!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 07:17:06 PM
I'm ok with all that... That wasn't what was posted by someone else though... A flippin post without foundation was reason why I interjected..

So is there more changing of the leagues again?? Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 27, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 07:08:07 PM

I think the out of blue bit is inaccurate - Rossa defeated a Dunloy team with the previous three championships under their belt and Although I didn't make the final it came as no surprise to me to hear in Florida they had won a deserved championship. Rossa had lost out narrowly to the great Dunloy sides in previous years which skewed their true ability. And went on to win that Ulster league also.


Sure lets go back 10 years and talk about how crap Loughgiel are?  ;D ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 27, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 07:08:07 PM

I think the out of blue bit is inaccurate - Rossa defeated a Dunloy team with the previous three championships under their belt and Although I didn't make the final it came as no surprise to me to hear in Florida they had won a deserved championship. Rossa had lost out narrowly to the great Dunloy sides in previous years which skewed their true ability. And went on to win that Ulster league also.


Sure lets go back 10 years and talk about how crap Loughgiel are?  ;D ;D

Or return to having a belfast championsip so a belfast team can win something ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 27, 2015, 09:25:35 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 27, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
Funny feeling I heard a rumbling that it's 3 down (and one up from Div 2)  to leave the 8 teams.

Definitely 3 down from division one and only one up from division two at the end of this season, to leave 8 teams in division one next season. Was proposed by CCC at county convention and voted for and approved by the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 27, 2015, 09:44:45 PM
So shortsighted from ccc. It's good for the big teams but for teams on the verge of division one, it restricts development. We need more teams to get up to the level of those top three teams. The only way they'll do it is by playing them. This is a bad move all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 27, 2015, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Yeah, Id love to see a Belfast team pushing the country teams all the way, was great when that Rossa team of the late 80's early 90's was so strong followed by that out of the blue win against Loughgiel.

But as you have said DR, keeping these players together year in year out is the problem, we have managed well at football because we kept on winning!!! Easier to keep on winning and having everyone together than keep all players when losing all the time....

I think the out of blue bit is inaccurate - Rossa defeated a Dunloy team with the previous three championships under their belt and Although I didn't make the final it came as no surprise to me to hear in Florida they had won a deserved championship. Rossa had lost out narrowly to the great Dunloy sides in previous years which skewed their true ability. And went on to win that Ulster league also.
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St John's made finals in 89 against loughgiel (could have won that day - nasty injury to pedan and I might recall Pearse McFall was sent off). They also made a final in the 90s but we're no competition for Dunloy.

Sorry to come back to this whole debate but Ulster league! Your having a laugh if u even count that as a serious comp. It was really only a pre season warm up which ended up with a farce of a final normally played around xmas.
St Galls strength for me is their ability to stay consistent in the "lesser code" at Milltown and that's been really impressive - but without ever looking like winning anything.

But like I have said - I think it's a bit of a null argument.
All three in divino one and senior now - the proof will be in the pudding. Results will settle it.
But I might add - being the best team in belfast is irrelevant if you're nowhere near as good as the glens teams!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 10:24:27 PM
Rossa won the Ulster hurling league under lights in Casement - I was at it. Can't honestly recall opposition. Would have been late 2000's.
Hardstation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 10:48:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 10:24:27 PM
Rossa won the Ulster hurling league under lights in Casement - I was at it. Can't honestly recall opposition. Would have been late 2000's.
Hardstation?

We won Ulster league div 2 one year... I played final, means fevk all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 10:55:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 10:48:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 10:24:27 PM
Rossa won the Ulster hurling league under lights in Casement - I was at it. Can't honestly recall opposition. Would have been late 2000's.
Hardstation?

We won Ulster league div 2 one year... I played final, means fevk all

Well division 1 means more than 2. (I had forgot about that win)
And if enter a competition you try to win it.
That's a poor comment mr2 not like you!
I wouldn't put much stake in it - and not sure Rossa do - merely made the point as someone said Rossa were out of the blue or had won nothing. That's incorrect.
If it means fevk all I assume you just wouldn't want to play in that game or win it then?
Poor comment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 27, 2015, 11:09:11 PM
Ulster league meant nothin. The fact that u can't recall the opposition for this final under lights proves how memorable it was btggt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
We are judged on what we win in Antrim championship if you really think that other stuff matters you are hmmm dare I say it... Silly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
How much it means is a separate debate!
Good god lads!
Rossa beat top teams to win it who never threw the games - therefore it proves they were not a team out of the blue who won nothing - this trophy was tagged in to that volunteer cup!
I was merely PROVING that point!
I recall seeing smiling shamrocks on casement collecting the trophy also - if it's good enough for them it's good enough for any City team and certainly st galls. After all if you are judged on what you have won in the antrim championship what would that say about milltown?
I'm reliably informed it was Ballycran in the final.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 27, 2015, 11:38:44 PM
Big tickle! if u ever played in that particular competition ud know it was a waste of time! Travelling the country on a sat nite to play teams that had no interest in hurling on some bog of a pitch. Was good for a bit of craic on the way home though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 11:43:07 PM
Look you are losing the point here altogether. We over last recent years. Be it 5 6 or7 years have been better than Rossa.... Agreed? That was all I was trying to say, we also reached Croke park at intermediate level and progressed by beating Dunloy couple years later on senior championship. stayed div one and competed final this year..... But you are going to say different. Ulster league against Ballycran...WTF!! Same Year we beat them in reserve and senior at their pitch with 20 players for both games (I played both games lol) but look its a silly argument. Rossa are a better team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 27, 2015, 11:53:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2015, 11:43:07 PM
Look you are losing the point here altogether. We over last recent years. Be it 5 6 or7 years have been better than Rossa.... Agreed? That was all I was trying to say, we also reached Croke park at intermediate level and progressed by beating Dunloy couple years later on senior championship. stayed div one and competed final this year..... But you are going to say different. Ulster league against Ballycran...WTF!! Same Year we beat them in reserve and senior at their pitch with 20 players for both games (I played both games lol) but look its a silly argument. Rossa are a better team

Have u been drinking?

Last 5-7 years? No confirmation of last game between sides?
But I've already said I think st galls have been the more consistent team - either milltown or St. John's.

My point regarding the Ulster league win refers to the fact that when they won the volunteer cup (10 years?) it was not a one-off or out of the blue.

What's difficult to get about this?!

WTF - if the competition meant "nothing" why did anyone enter it? Why did I see loughgiel celebrate it? Mean a lot - no. Mean nothing? Ridiculous assertion. Who plays to lose? And like I said my point is that Rossa had to beat the top teams through the competition to win it - so to describe a volunteer cup win as one off or out of the blue is ridiculous.

I'm done with this - largely because it's irrelevant.
None of the City teams are close to the glens men.
And for the mythical title of the best city team (irrelevant) we are about to find out over this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2015, 12:00:38 AM
Look chill out. Be silly for me to decide over past few years as to what's important and who was better team in the city... Other clubs will have a view on that as mine will be distorted, like yours for Rossa... Seeing as your are their best fan ;).... But as you have consistently said Rossa better team over past ten years ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 28, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Btdgtt. Why did anybody enter it? Because it was a useful pre season warm up nothing else. And if I recall correctly there was cash prizes for the winner of each division! Teams might have celebrated winning it but I'd doubt if they booked the next week off work!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 28, 2015, 03:14:27 PM
we did enter it and it was usefull but the games turned out pointless at times as you were racking up silly scores which did neither team any favours.

it was better come the semi finals and final if you made it.

i rem rossa winning that because IIRC they beat us in the semi final in dunloy with a last min goal.

also that last year they won the senior they beat us in the semi final when we were going for 5 in a row. ah the joy of seeing a ref give us a free in the last min to have a chance to equalizer and then change his mind and give a free out! lol

mattered not as i dont know if we would of beaten lgiel that year in the final. Rossa deserved it that year for the way they played in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 28, 2015, 04:33:56 PM
yeah, no one was happy at it. we were going for the magical 5 in a row which would of been nice. we actually should of being going for 8 in a row had we not lost in the last moments in the 99 final.

we shall not speak of the ref from that game and his amazing pen call which no one could fathom, even the cdall players.

pity as it would of been a nice boast to have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 28, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on January 28, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Btdgtt. Why did anybody enter it? Because it was a useful pre season warm up nothing else. And if I recall correctly there was cash prizes for the winner of each division! Teams might have celebrated winning it but I'd doubt if they booked the next week off work!

What a strange time/ issue to make your first post?
Seems by that u care about the Ulster league!
Nobody set out to lose - and everyone prefers to win.
Rossa did win it - that's the fact I stated. Ur argument is for urself as it doesn't change the fact.

MR2 the debate over the last 10years we'll gladly leave - I lost any partisan nature when I was away with work so often hence I get behind all city teams - I've a foot in a few camps with connections but as a hurling man grew up with tradition of Rossa being thehurling team of the city - apologies if that lends to bias. Otherwise I was merely stating facts as I said regarding both their volunteer cup & Ulster league win. I think we've established there was no fluke or out of the blue.

So I will finish by saying it's all past history a and irrelevant. We'll know this year where the City teams stand in relation to each other - and we will also I fear learn that it's along way behind the glens men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on January 28, 2015, 07:49:45 PM
No question that Rossa have been the dominant force in Belfast in the hurling code.  St. Galls have always been more focused on their football, to each his own I say.  As for Ulster Leagues, pipe openers for Antrim teams and of no great benefit, other than pre-season run outs.   Probably more beneficial to non Antrim/Down Teams, if you ask me!

Now that Mickey80 is off me back, I'll, well lets see.  ;D ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 28, 2015, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 28, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on January 28, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Btdgtt. Why did anybody enter it? Because it was a useful pre season warm up nothing else. And if I recall correctly there was cash prizes for the winner of each division! Teams might have celebrated winning it but I'd doubt if they booked the next week off work!

What a strange time/ issue to make your first post?
Seems by that u care about the Ulster league!
Nobody set out to lose - and everyone prefers to win.
Rossa did win it - that's the fact I stated. Ur argument is for urself as it doesn't change the fact.

MR2 the debate over the last 10years we'll gladly leave - I lost any partisan nature when I was away with work so often hence I get behind all city teams - I've a foot in a few camps with connections but as a hurling man grew up with tradition of Rossa being thehurling team of the city - apologies if that lends to bias. Otherwise I was merely stating facts as I said regarding both their volunteer cup & Ulster league win. I think we've established there was no fluke or out of the blue.

So I will finish by saying it's all past history a and irrelevant. We'll know this year where the City teams stand in relation to each other - and we will also I fear learn that it's along way behind the glens men.

Btdgtt- I've been reading this for a while now and had decided to sign in so when I decide to make my post is upto me. Just found it strange that somebody that follows hurling is holding up an Ulster league win as the equivalent of another senior championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 28, 2015, 09:55:59 PM
Who ever equated an Ulster league win to an antrim championship?
Read it again. And don't post on it again.
Done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 28, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
dont throw ur toys out of the pram. I'll offer an opinion on it if I like by the way. Done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 29, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

Yeah, they'd you on the rack for a long time, pappy O'Kane was really struggling with Emmet O'Hara (wee nippy bollox) and it took the Dunloy management far too long to make the changes that secured the victory.

Cushendun were a good team back then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

my memory is vague of that final! lol

who did we beat in the semi that year? was it cdall at casement by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on January 29, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

my memory is vague of that final! lol

who did we beat in the semi that year? was it cdall at casement by any chance?

Cushendall, with Damien McMullans 100 yard free at the death!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2015, 10:15:06 AM
Boy he could hit frees!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2015, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 29, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

my memory is vague of that final! lol

who did we beat in the semi that year? was it cdall at casement by any chance?

Cushendall, with Damien McMullans 100 yard free at the death!

thats right! christ it was one hell of a free. it was one of the best i ever seen as it was under pressure and near the sideline as well. i cant even rem if it was a free or not at the time.

it was poetic justice for that soft(non existant) penalty that won the final the year before  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 29, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 29, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

my memory is vague of that final! lol

who did we beat in the semi that year? was it cdall at casement by any chance?

Cushendall, with Damien McMullans 100 yard free at the death!

thats right! christ it was one hell of a free. it was one of the best i ever seen as it was under pressure and near the sideline as well. i cant even rem if it was a free or not at the time.

it was poetic justice for that soft(non existant) penalty that won the final the year before  ;D
That was the free I was taking about. A shocking decision
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 29, 2015, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 11:04:44 AM
Quote from: maxpower on January 29, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 29, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
I think yous got ridiculous decision back in the 2000 semi final

who was that against? i cant rem who we beat then. i know we beat cushendun handy in the final that year

From memory we didn't really get away from the dun that til the last 5 or 10 minutes that day DR. They had us on the rack for a decent part of the game.

my memory is vague of that final! lol

who did we beat in the semi that year? was it cdall at casement by any chance?

Cushendall, with Damien McMullans 100 yard free at the death!

thats right! christ it was one hell of a free. it was one of the best i ever seen as it was under pressure and near the sideline as well. i cant even rem if it was a free or not at the time.

it was poetic justice for that soft(non existant) penalty that won the final the year before  ;D

Dont think it was the penalty that lost yous the game that day, if yous hadnt already starting doing a victory dance yous would have won it handy.

As for 2000, the free was a shocking decision, who was the ref that day  ::)

But how far back are yous going to go back to look for bad decisions etc, as they say you win some you lose some.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
i dont think that was a victory dance more a smash and grab. the sideline ball ended up in the net then a pen a moment or so later and bang it was over.

swings and roundabouts from one year to another.:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 29, 2015, 05:09:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
i dont think that was a victory dance more a smash and grab. the sideline ball ended up in the net then a pen a moment or so later and bang it was over.

swings and roundabouts from one year to another.:)

Most definitely a smash and grab, but your downfall was yous thought you had it won with 10 mins to go (which yous should have had)

wasnt a sideline either, was a free that was doubled on in mid-air, think we scored 2-2 in those last few minutes so i dont think it was the penalty that beat yous whereas an atrocious decision was the reason why we got beat the following year..

anyway, it doesnt really matter a damn now, swings and roundabouts as you say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 29, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X

Can't recall too many dodgy decisions against you in any of the recent county finals. Maybe a dodgy free off a hop ball in the first defeat of the 6 in a row but none in any of the others that 'cost u the game'.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 30, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X

for a few of your defeats, the bad decisions were made by the lads along the line in Loughgiel gear.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 30, 2015, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on January 29, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X

Can't recall too many dodgy decisions against you in any of the recent county finals. Maybe a dodgy free off a hop ball in the first defeat of the 6 in a row but none in any of the others that 'cost u the game'.

i dont recall many either myself over the years in the finals.

the knock out games no doubt have had some shockers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on January 30, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
Finger pointing, recriminations, you's did this, we done that, get a grip fellah's, its all  relative yet now confined in the annals of history.  What matters is the future!

A bit remiss of me really, a very much well done to Rossa, I was away last Sunday but I heard the result, which I felt was always on the cards.  A good foundation now layed for Rossa to push on and return to premier status.  The very best of luck for the final.  Anyone know the date for AI Intermediate final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on January 30, 2015, 07:48:58 PM
Tbh how many referees decisions have ever cost anybody a match. I've been on the wrong end of many a bad decision but when u look back over the game it was really things we ourselves could've done more of/better/stopped doing that had a bigger bearing on the outcome. 99.9% of the time the ref is not to blame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 30, 2015, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 30, 2015, 06:30:58 PM
Sunday 15th February.

Croke Park?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on February 01, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 30, 2015, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 30, 2015, 06:30:58 PM
Sunday 15th February.

Croke Park?

Do tg4 cover the all ireland intermediate and junior finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 01, 2015, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 01, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 30, 2015, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 30, 2015, 06:30:58 PM
Sunday 15th February.

Croke Park?

Do tg4 cover the all ireland intermediate and junior finals?
afraid not. They're showing Dublin vs Tipp in the nhl. Then austin stacks vs Slaughtneil. It'll be on radio somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 02, 2015, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 30, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X

for a few of your defeats, the bad decisions were made by the lads along the line in Loughgiel gear.
Shamrock bashing again????   We will not be the first club and most certainly not the last club this has happened to ffs.  ::)  Catch a grip wud ya.  :-[ ::) ??? Jaysus boyz, still being watched, was it something I said????  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 02, 2015, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 02, 2015, 10:22:48 PM
Tough enough start v Wexford away. I have heard that there wasn't much to cheer about in the Dublin game so I suppose the only way is up. Will McManus and Campbell be suspended?

It'd be nice to get the recent Wexford monkey off our backs. I was at the game in Port Laoise last year (when Laois showed us how to use the elements to almost beat the superior team) and although we played in fits and starts that day, defensively we were very naive.

Good luck also to Rossa.  I heard they played Armagh at the weekend who weren't up to much which couldn't be good for preparation. I thought the Rossa boys would have been more imaginative in their preparation. The Kiburn Gaels crowd I hear are more than decent and have been given good preparation v ballyhale.
Kilburn v Ballyhale, that's good prep in anyone's book, they must have a few bob to travel across the pond???? ;D ;D

Rossa v Armagh, not sure what they were thinking of?  Better playing a senior club team, if you ask me.  ;)  I hope they win it all the same and good luck to them.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 03, 2015, 09:18:55 AM
theres not many senior clubs wanting to risk either they pitches or players at this stage of a season. any sort of game stands you in good stead to keep the first touch up and confidence going in players.

i hear the county lost to westmeath at the weekend in friendly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 03, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
Anyone know the best way to get to Inniskeen, Co. Monagahan?  Our camogs play there on Sunday coming and I have never there, I know there various ways, but just looking for the best route?????  Any advice would be appreciated all the same? ;)  Good luck to the Shamrocks Camogs on Sunday, go on girls, get a result  ;D.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 03, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2015, 09:18:55 AM
theres not many senior clubs wanting to risk either they pitches or players at this stage of a season. any sort of game stands you in good stead to keep the first touch up and confidence going in players.

i hear the county lost to westmeath at the weekend in friendly?
WM have beat us before, so not so shocking news!  Yu wud think we would be beating them all the same, they were always a safe bet for a couple of points, but look like the tide has turned again, disappointing  :( :-[.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Humpy in the hot seat at ballycastle and smokey in cushendall.
St John's very cagey about who is taking them.
Dunloy seem to have an embarrassment of riches within their club from that golden era - and as you say a fine tradition of promoting from within.

Inniskeen - straight down the motorway and come off at dundalk. Go past race track on your left and take a right sign posted for Castleblayney. It's a dodgy road and wave hello to slab Murphy on your right before a left turn to inniskeen. Can't miss the ground - there's not much else there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 04, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 02, 2015, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 30, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
Bad decisions in the county final causing teams the championship is it?  Where would one begin?  :-X

for a few of your defeats, the bad decisions were made by the lads along the line in Loughgiel gear.
Shamrock bashing again????   We will not be the first club and most certainly not the last club this has happened to ffs.  ::)  Catch a grip wud ya.  :-[ ::) ??? Jaysus boyz, still being watched, was it something I said????  ???

Who's sham bashing?

a bit of a sensitive type eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 04, 2015, 09:25:04 AM
dunloy is the same as last year. Dick O'kane is manager along with Paddy Martin, Chrissy McGilligan and Jimmy Millar helping him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 04, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
You missed one DR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 04, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
ive taken memory blank here. bubble by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 04, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 03, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Humpy in the hot seat at ballycastle and smokey in cushendall.
St John's very cagey about who is taking them.
Dunloy seem to have an embarrassment of riches within their club from that golden era - and as you say a fine tradition of promoting from within.

Inniskeen - straight down the motorway and come off at dundalk. Go past race track on your left and take a right sign posted for Castleblayney. It's a dodgy road and wave hello to slab Murphy on your right before a left turn to inniskeen. Can't miss the ground - there's not much else there!
cheers btdtgtt, appreciated man.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on February 05, 2015, 11:19:52 AM
St Galls currently looking a senior hurling manager if anyone is interested or knows of anyone who might be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2015, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: manballandall on February 05, 2015, 11:19:52 AM
St Galls currently looking a senior hurling manager if anyone is interested or knows of anyone who might be.

Isn't there a Galls man taking QUB hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on February 05, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
Yeah mc gourty taking queens.
Ollie's packed it in after last league game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 05, 2015, 03:47:06 PM
Aye Badger has moved up the ranks to work with more committed hurlers, eager to develop his hurling credentials  ;) He was a good lad and deserved better. I am sure there would be many clubs happy to gave him on board.  ;) ;D

Which McGourty  is at QUB?  Must be a bounty in it???   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on February 05, 2015, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 05, 2015, 03:47:06 PM
Aye Badger has moved up the ranks to work with more committed hurlers, eager to develop his hurling credentials  ;) He was a good lad and deserved better. I am sure there would be many clubs happy to gave him on board.  ;) ;D

Which McGourty  is at QUB?  Must be a bounty in it???   :P

Deserved better than what?
Sean
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 05, 2015, 04:56:47 PM
It would be great to see someone come in and try and keep St. Galls in division 1. Good for the club and good for the county. Oliver done a great job in his couple of years there. The city need a couple of good teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2015, 04:57:58 PM
I suppose staying up and getting that championship draw and so to the final - the only way was Down so Oliver chose the most apt time to go.
With the offer from Ryan who can blame him.
Dissapointing if not surprising the stick he got from a certain player also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 05, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
Bad form (AIB Club semi moved to Mullingar). I'm sure quite a few families from Portaferry would have booked into hotels in Thurles and will now be out of pocket.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 05, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 05, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
Bad form (AIB Club semi moved to Mullingar). I'm sure quite a few families from Portaferry would have booked into hotels in Thurles and will now be out of pocket.

That's incredible - but sure it's only club hurling. Who cares.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2015, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 05, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 05, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
Bad form (AIB Club semi moved to Mullingar). I'm sure quite a few families from Portaferry would have booked into hotels in Thurles and will now be out of pocket.

That's incredible - but sure it's only club hurling. Who cares.

Moreso it's only the Down/Ulster hurlers, who at committee level in both Down and Ulster are going to stand up for them and the shitty way they've been treated
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 05, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
That's incredible at this stage. Some sections of our association are complete wankheads.

And in the same breath they'll be telling us how they're going to develop hurling in weaker counties, the hypocrites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 05, 2015, 10:18:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 05, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
That's incredible at this stage. Some sections of our association are complete wankheads.
Diabolical, fe kin disgrace   :-[ but typical! Such a shambles.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2015, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 05, 2015, 10:06:01 PM
That's incredible at this stage. Some sections of our association are complete wankheads.

You wouldn't want to ruin the hallowed turf on a shower of ulster hurlers. What a shower of knackers.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2015, 07:40:49 PM
Sure Them boys from the north aren't worth the bother.  Come on tay f*ck Portaferry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 06, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
Lads, Portaferry have no chance. We've just been through a really poor ACHL, Antrim and Ulster Championship. Portaferry were really poor throughout. How they won their championship I'll never know. They won Ulster as the Antrim champions were a poor team. I would love to see them do it for the sake of Ulster hurling but it's not going to happen. I'm delighted to hear people on here getting behind them (even though some wouldn't cheer on another team from our own county).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 07, 2015, 03:47:51 PM
Kilmallock 2-17 portaferry 0-09. About ten minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 08, 2015, 11:29:49 AM
Well it seems being a 'Shamrock' has its advantages.  Another 'Shamrocks' team in AI Club Final - Ballyhale! Must be something in the water???  Up da Shams.  ;D ;) :-* Aye, and our Camogs beating the trail to another AI final as well today, Enniskeen, here we come.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2015, 02:07:35 PM
Wasted trip to mullingar yesterday - the game was over as quick as it started. Kilmallock had their goal before I had my seat and the Ports support knew already what lay ahead. Grinded for a while until kilmallock stepped up to pull clear. Good to see branniff get a day on this stage with his club.
Interesting here in Waterford as the senior clubs start back several of them play mini-league over the winter in 5-a-side soccer. Keeps their squads together but in relaxed context. Anyone know if our teams do anything similar? I assume most clubs have started back now now anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 08, 2015, 02:07:35 PM
Wasted trip to mullingar yesterday - the game was over as quick as it started. Kilmallock had their goal before I had my seat and the Ports support knew already what lay ahead. Grinded for a while until kilmallock stepped up to pull clear. Good to see branniff get a day on this stage with his club.
Interesting here in Waterford as the senior clubs start back several of them play mini-league over the winter in 5-a-side soccer. Keeps their squads together but in relaxed context. Anyone know if our teams do anything similar? I assume most clubs have started back now now anyway.
I'd say they're all back. We started on the 6th January. No Stone unturned and a few old faces back.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 08, 2015, 07:24:11 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 08, 2015, 11:29:49 AM
Well it seems being a 'Shamrock' has its advantages.  Another 'Shamrocks' team in AI Club Final - Ballyhale! Must be something in the water???  Up da Shams.  ;D ;) :-* Aye, and our Camogs beating the trail to another AI final as well today, Enniskeen, here we come.  ;) ;D

How'd Camogs do? Haven't seen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 08, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 08, 2015, 02:07:35 PM
Wasted trip to mullingar yesterday - the game was over as quick as it started. Kilmallock had their goal before I had my seat and the Ports support knew already what lay ahead. Grinded for a while until kilmallock stepped up to pull clear. Good to see branniff get a day on this stage with his club.
Interesting here in Waterford as the senior clubs start back several of them play mini-league over the winter in 5-a-side soccer. Keeps their squads together but in relaxed context. Anyone know if our teams do anything similar? I assume most clubs have started back now now anyway.
I'd say they're all back. We started on the 6th January. No Stone unturned and a few old faces back.  ;)

Who is back? Martin Scullion? Anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 08, 2015, 09:09:37 PM
I thot I heard that wee benny was to be back? Would be a big boost for shams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2015, 10:15:17 PM
Camogs beat by 10.  Wee Benny won't be hurling this year unfortunately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 08, 2015, 11:34:26 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2015, 10:15:17 PM
Camogs beat by 10.  Wee Benny won't be hurling this year unfortunately

He was a big loss to u. Was worth nearly 2 goals a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 09, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
Ports were well beaten at the end up. i did want to see them do well but i had a feeling that they wouldnt win this game.

truth be told them winning Down was a big shock with the way Ballycran were playing all season. i thought they would be the team to watch. Cushendall never should of beaten S'neill and should of been sent packing the first day. wasnt impressed all season with them.

portaferry can take alot away with themselves from ydays game and alot of lessons will be learned. i think they will find it tough this season to match last years achievements as i feel that Ballycran will be champing at the bit to prove alot of doubters wrong.

anyway well done to them for getting as far as they did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
Ports were well beaten at the end up. i did want to see them do well but i had a feeling that they wouldnt win this game.

truth be told them winning Down was a big shock with the way Ballycran were playing all season. i thought they would be the team to watch. Cushendall never should of beaten S'neill and should of been sent packing the first day. wasnt impressed all season with them.

portaferry can take alot away with themselves from ydays game and alot of lessons will be learned. i think they will find it tough this season to match last years achievements as i feel that Ballycran will be champing at the bit to prove alot of doubters wrong.

anyway well done to them for getting as far as they did.

Ballycran to make ammends and come out of Down this year - but this experience should bring Ports on enough so they escape the relegation fight from Divison 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 09, 2015, 10:06:09 AM
Cushendall aren't exactly the finished product but I think we might be taking away from their achievements slightly here.  They put Loughgiel to the sword in the championship, beat Dunloy and then weren't really tested in the county final. They had two tough battles in a short space of time against Slaughtneil and then hadn't much time to prepare for Portaferry.  So we shouldn't underestimate that they won the county championship here in Antrim and had two titanic battles in the Ulster semi.

It feels like they are being looked at underachievers because they didn't win Ulster.  They are a work in progress and that year will serve them good and of course makes for a great championship this year if Loughgiel get their act together and if Dunloy have a good crack.

Portaferry, although deserving winners over Cushendall know they aren't the best team in Ulster at heart and had nothing to lose on Saturday and were totally outclassed.  I think Cushendall would have given a better account of themselves but the same two teams would still be in the AI club finals.

Who was better than them?

Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
Ports were well beaten at the end up. i did want to see them do well but i had a feeling that they wouldnt win this game.

truth be told them winning Down was a big shock with the way Ballycran were playing all season. i thought they would be the team to watch. Cushendall never should of beaten S'neill and should of been sent packing the first day. wasnt impressed all season with them.

portaferry can take alot away with themselves from ydays game and alot of lessons will be learned. i think they will find it tough this season to match last years achievements as i feel that Ballycran will be champing at the bit to prove alot of doubters wrong.

anyway well done to them for getting as far as they did.

Ballycran to make ammends and come out of Down this year - but this experience should bring Ports on enough so they escape the relegation fight from Divison 1.

I won't be writing us off just yet, El Magico will be back, along with Caolan Baille and Ben Toner, probably three of our best players who all for various reasons contributed very little in last years campaign. Still a bit light defensively though!

Under new management also...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 09, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
JC i would honestly say S'neill would have won that ulster final had they gotten by the dall. the football run killed them with regards to the hurling having so many games one after another.

portaferry deserved to win the final, they were the better team on the day and thats all that counts in the record books. were they the best team in ulster? no, but thats irrelevant now.

with regards to the dall. they beat a lgiel team who, to be honest, didnt look up for it no matter what any of their fans will tell you. they beat us and we were bloody awfull. we didnt deserve to win the semi final and would of only been kidding ourselves in the final had we won it. cushendall won antrim by not playing overly well. fair play to them though, they only beat what was in front of them.

i actually thought Ballycran would of won ulster this year after seeing them play this year. but being good on paper counts for nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
JC i would honestly say S'neill would have won that ulster final had they gotten by the dall. the football run killed them with regards to the hurling having so many games one after another.

portaferry deserved to win the final, they were the better team on the day and thats all that counts in the record books. were they the best team in ulster? no, but thats irrelevant now.

with regards to the dall. they beat a lgiel team who, to be honest, didnt look up for it no matter what any of their fans will tell you. they beat us and we were bloody awfull. we didnt deserve to win the semi final and would of only been kidding ourselves in the final had we won it. cushendall won antrim by not playing overly well. fair play to them though, they only beat what was in front of them.

i actually thought Ballycran would of won ulster this year after seeing them play this year. but being good on paper counts for nothing.

S'Neill hadn't the forwards to beat the Dall, the Ports had, and beat them well they did. Remember S'Neill had a home game against the Dall and only managed to draw with them.

All subjective nonsense and the records show that Portaferry are the best hurling championship team in Ulster for 2014..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 09, 2015, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: Glensman on February 08, 2015, 07:24:11 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 08, 2015, 11:29:49 AM
Well it seems being a 'Shamrock' has its advantages.  Another 'Shamrocks' team in AI Club Final - Ballyhale! Must be something in the water???  Up da Shams.  ;D ;) :-* Aye, and our Camogs beating the trail to another AI final as well today, Enniskeen, here we come.  ;) ;D

How'd Camogs do? Haven't seen.
Beaten on the day by a better team, but cant win them all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 09, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 09, 2015, 02:26:10 PM
And Cushendall's lack of preparation and 3 matches in 3 weeks doesn't count for anything? Or neither did Portaferry's fresh legs and fortnight preparation? Cushendall didn't beat Portaferry on the day but are a better team. Ports benefitted from being in the Down championship and then having an easy entry to the final. Ok their last championship between both teams proved otherwise but there were influences on that game as I have pointed out.

I'd say Portaferry got a tighter run out in the Down final than Cushendall did in the Antrim one, so what?

Ports did get the easier run in Ulster, luck of the draw and all that, and had the cushion of a neutral venue to face the Dall, a luxury no Down club has had for 25 odd years!

Best team in Ulster   ;) ( I can't believe I typed that FFS)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 09, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
FFS who gives a shite.

i still don't believe we are the best team in Antrim but we still won the Antrim championship last year.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 09, 2015, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 09, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
FFS who gives a shite.

i still don't believe we are the best team in Antrim but we still won the Antrim championship last year.  :o

prob says more about the rest of the teams, mines included  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 09, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
FFS who gives a shite.

i still don't believe we are the best team in Antrim but we still won the Antrim championship last year.  :o

prob says more about the rest of the teams, mines included  ;D

There is very little in the Antrim championship IMO at the moment. Either LG Cushendall or Dunloy could win on their day just takes the hop of a ball and a bit of confidence and any of the three could take. Ballycastle would need a slight bit more this year but they are also not that far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2015, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 09, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
FFS who gives a shite.

i still don't believe we are the best team in Antrim but we still won the Antrim championship last year.  :o

prob says more about the rest of the teams, mines included  ;D

There is very little in the Antrim championship IMO at the moment. Either LG Cushendall or Dunloy could win on their day just takes the hop of a ball and a bit of confidence and any of the three could take. Ballycastle would need a slight bit more this year but they are also not that far away.

Fully agree - but I will still plump for the shamrocks to make up for last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 09, 2015, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2015, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 09, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2015, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 09, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
FFS who gives a shite.

i still don't believe we are the best team in Antrim but we still won the Antrim championship last year.  :o

prob says more about the rest of the teams, mines included  ;D

There is very little in the Antrim championship IMO at the moment. Either LG Cushendall or Dunloy could win on their day just takes the hop of a ball and a bit of confidence and any of the three could take. Ballycastle would need a slight bit more this year but they are also not that far away.

Fully agree - but I will still plump for the shamrocks to make up for last year.

Think shams will take it comfortably enough this year. A winter off to recharge and clear up all the niggly injuries they've never had a chance to get rid of. They'll be flying come championship time instead of just gettin started.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2015, 09:14:55 AM
i dont think they will win it this year. last year they were not the same team they were and you could see it. they are a team in a change period now. they need the youth in to replace all of the older guys or risk pushing themselves back further. now's the time to change it and bringing back older guys this season is not the answer or the way forward.

cushendall would be my choice. a lot of lessons learned for them last year and if they have they will be an improved team. alot of good young players in their team and with that minor team pushing up through into senior they should be the team to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
I'll go Ballycastle. They have to come good sometime. Their players have to step up to the plate. Their forward six are as good as any. One or two of their back six aren't the best but every team has its weakness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2015, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
I'll go Ballycastle. They have to come good sometime. Their players have to step up to the plate. Their forward six are as good as any. One or two of their back six aren't the best but every team has its weakness.

Firstly if someone keeps saying it every year it is bound to happen one of them.

Secondly their problem for the past ten year or more has been to develop a forward unit, they are still a low scoring team that rely heavily on their defensive unit to keep them in the big games.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 10, 2015, 04:13:33 PM
A bit too early for the town yet I think, another year or two possibly, but sure to peak at some stage soon!  ;) ;D ;D  Its me mixed allegiance ya see. (family ties in both camps) certainly makes things difficult. ??? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2015, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
I'll go Ballycastle. They have to come good sometime. Their players have to step up to the plate. Their forward six are as good as any. One or two of their back six aren't the best but every team has its weakness.

Firstly if someone keeps saying it every year it is bound to happen one of them.

Secondly their problem for the past ten year or more has been to develop a forward unit, they are still a low scoring team that rely heavily on their defensive unit to keep them in the big games.  :o

Saul McCaughan, Stephen McAfee, Ciaran Clarke, Stephen McGarry, Shane Jennings, Matty Donnelly. Some serious quality there. A good manager would win a championship with those six forwards. Cushendal won the championship last year with a lot less firepower.

They deserved to win it as the manager got what he could out of a limited bunch of players. The Dal have the meanest defence in the county which was their platform. The town would greatly benefit from a quality offensive coach. Will they pay attention to that sort of detail? Probably not.

If you always do what you always did you always get what you always got.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 10, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2015, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
I'll go Ballycastle. They have to come good sometime. Their players have to step up to the plate. Their forward six are as good as any. One or two of their back six aren't the best but every team has its weakness.

Firstly if someone keeps saying it every year it is bound to happen one of them.

Secondly their problem for the past ten year or more has been to develop a forward unit, they are still a low scoring team that rely heavily on their defensive unit to keep them in the big games.  :o

Saul McCaughan, Stephen McAfee, Ciaran Clarke, Stephen McGarry, Shane Jennings, Matty Donnelly. Some serious quality there. A good manager would win a championship with those six forwards. Cushendal won the championship last year with a lot less firepower.

They deserved to win it as the manager got what he could out of a limited bunch of players. The Dal have the meanest defence in the county which was their platform. The town would greatly benefit from a quality offensive coach. Will they pay attention to that sort of detail? Probably not.

If you always do what you always did you always get what you always got.

There's more to forward play than puttin the ball over the ball. All talented forwards but unless they all dig in on the bad days and work hard for the team even if individually they're not playing well then they won't win a championship. Talent alone will win u the odd game but it won't win a championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2015, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2015, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
I'll go Ballycastle. They have to come good sometime. Their players have to step up to the plate. Their forward six are as good as any. One or two of their back six aren't the best but every team has its weakness.

Firstly if someone keeps saying it every year it is bound to happen one of them.

Secondly their problem for the past ten year or more has been to develop a forward unit, they are still a low scoring team that rely heavily on their defensive unit to keep them in the big games.  :o

Saul McCaughan, Stephen McAfee, Ciaran Clarke, Stephen McGarry, Shane Jennings, Matty Donnelly. Some serious quality there. A good manager would win a championship with those six forwards. Cushendal won the championship last year with a lot less firepower.

They deserved to win it as the manager got what he could out of a limited bunch of players. The Dal have the meanest defence in the county which was their platform. The town would greatly benefit from a quality offensive coach. Will they pay attention to that sort of detail? Probably not.

If you always do what you always did you always get what you always got.

Yes cushendall have had better teams win the championship but they're by no means a limited bunch of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
They are limited. Ulster championship proved it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2015, 09:16:03 PM
You don't win championships beating dunloy and loughgiel on the way being limited unless everyone else was just very limited?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
Dunloy, Loughiel and Ballycastle people will all tell you that yes their teams were limited last year. That is not a great Dal team. A poor Portaferry team winning Ulster speaks volumes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2015, 10:38:37 PM
I see the media round ahead of the wexford game started.
Who to interview in the Antrim set up?
Are we allowed to hear from anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 11, 2015, 08:13:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 09:22:08 PM
Dunloy, Loughiel and Ballycastle people will all tell you that yes their teams were limited last year. That is not a great Dal team. A poor Portaferry team winning Ulster speaks volumes.
Who's the Dal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 11, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
They are limited. Ulster championship proved it.
As I said before, any team on a given day can raise their game and get tactics right, while the opposing team (expected favs.) falter.  It happens, has happened and will continue to happen. ;) ;) ::)  No dead certs in any man's book.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 11, 2015, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 11, 2015, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 10, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
They are limited. Ulster championship proved it.
As I said before, any team on a given day can raise their game and get tactics right, while the opposing team (expected favs.) falter.  It happens, has happened and will continue to happen. ;) ;) ::)  No dead certs in any man's book.  :'( :'(

Agree to a certain extent.

I think hurling is such a skilful game though that in the majority (not every time) of games the team with the best players will win. In soccer you can put 11 behind the ball in a cup game and you've a good chance of getting a result against a team with better players. It's not as easy in hurling.

There were no excellent teams in last year's Antrim Senior Championship was the simple point I was trying to make. I think I've offended a few Cushendall fans in the process.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 11, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Can't wait for the season to begin. Anyone a date for first senior league games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on February 11, 2015, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 11, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Can't wait for the season to begin. Anyone a date for first senior league games?

Football is down for Apr 8th start, from memory last year the 1st wednesday and sunday where football then the following wednesday the hurling started. Will roughly be about that time AFAIK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on February 11, 2015, 10:30:04 PM
plus 9 handicap very generous on sunday for us in my view. I think we can give a depleted wexford a right rattle!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 13, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
I dont know whether to go the Rossa game or the county game on Sunday. Is the Antrim v Wexford game on the radio???  Slightly leaning towards Rossa v Kilburn Gaels at Croker.  :-\  Any betting on Rossa and Antrim double?  ;)  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 13, 2015, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 13, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
I dont know whether to go the Rossa game or the county game on Sunday. Is the Antrim v Wexford game on the radio???  Slightly leaning towards Rossa v Fullen Gaels at Croker.  :-\  Any betting on Rossa and Antrim double?  ;)  :D

Rossa game has crept up under the radar - how are things looking for it HS?
Hard to be optimistic about the trip to Wexford park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 13, 2015, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 13, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Rossa should win.  If they don't I'll be very surprised.  They are a senior standard side and therefore should be stronger than any intermediate club.  That opinion shouldn't be confused with an opinion on whether or not they should be competing in the Intermediate championship at all. I understand that they have been playing in Division 2 for a while but wit the quality of players they have and how they have so far been unbeaten, it shows that they are too good for this standard.

So Rossa to beat Kilburn Gaels by 8-10 points.
a bit overly optimistic, but sure 1 point would do????  good luck to the Rossa either way.  ;) :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 14, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
Is Rossa match this evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on February 14, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
Is Rossa match this evening?
tomorrow at 3.45.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 14, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on February 14, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
Is Rossa match this evening?
tomorrow at 3.45.
Cheers. Will be a tight game but think they'll do enough to Nick it. Good luck rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2015, 07:47:34 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 14, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
Have we a chance v Wexford? If we can keep 15 on the pitch...
Who would be sent off? The usual?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 07:55:00 PM
I'd say that's a dig at EC of Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
They're named on County website so I'm guessing they're ok. There are 4 or 5 talented forwards who could be in that panel but aren't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 08:31:50 PM
I've 3 in mind who aren't there for various reasons. N. Elliott, S. McCaughan, B.McCarry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 09:35:24 PM
Ability/talent is the reason
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
One is in Australia, I've no idea about the other two as to why they're not in the squad. What I am saying is they have the ability to be in the squad. There are other too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
Can't agree with you on Carson. For such a big lump he does not win a lot of high ball. Id imagine KR has realised that and thus his exclusion (unless he is unfit). Any of the three I've mentioned are Pj's equal and some. I could be wrong however. PJ will play division 1 this year and we'll know more then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 10:05:42 PM
Ps - any 2 of the 3 i mentioned in for Daniel and Conor - that would be an impressive forward line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 14, 2015, 10:11:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
Can't agree with you on Carson. For such a big lump he does not win a lot of high ball. Id imagine KR has realised that and thus his exclusion (unless he is unfit). Any of the three I've mentioned are Pj's equal and some. I could be wrong however. PJ will play division 1 this year and we'll know more then.

Pj is a class act and would merit his place on the team no matter who else is in the panel. Saul a bit young yet as proved come championship time and I think Elliot's best place is around the middle of the field he had a great game there v lgiel in county final few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 10:41:24 PM
Yes you're right, I'm sure the Waterford, Limerick and Wexford defences will be having sleepless nights over PJ.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 11:01:25 PM
Oh for goodness sake. You think PJ is great, I think he is average. Round in circles. How we beat Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
Go back to your comment on McKernan (pot kettle black). To be honest when you said our forward line was a bit lightweight (yet expressed your love of PJ in ff, who is about 10st) I switched off. Good night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 11:35:06 PM
Jesus, you really,really, really like PJ. I actually think he's a decent player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2015, 11:47:06 PM
Think we've all the right defenders and midfielders in the squad (apart from Burke - Naomh Gall). In an ideal world we could add the aforementioned forwards. But like you said (several times) if your granny had balls!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:23 AM
Lets get real, there isn't as team in the county that wouldn't have PJ on their team, end off.... I've watched him played against him and referee'd him long enough to know he's a quality player. If he wasn't part of Clooney Gaels' they'd not be where they are today....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2015, 01:41:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:23 AM
Lets get real, there isn't as team in the county that wouldn't have PJ on their team, end off.... I've watched him played against him and referee'd him long enough to know he's a quality player. If he wasn't part of Clooney Gaels' they'd not be where they are today....
erm, I don't think Cushendall would have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2015, 01:41:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:23 AM
Lets get real, there isn't as team in the county that wouldn't have PJ on their team, end off.... I've watched him played against him and referee'd him long enough to know he's a quality player. If he wasn't part of Clooney Gaels' they'd not be where they are today....
erm, I don't think Cushendall would have.

Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 15, 2015, 10:05:00 AM
Have we such a wealth of talent in Antrim that we should omit PJ, catch a grip wud ya ?????  ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 15, 2015, 10:05:00 AM
Have we such a wealth of talent in Antrim that we should omit PJ, catch a grip wud ya ?????  ::) ???

I never said at any stage he should be omitted. I said he was a decent player. I did say there were players his equal (and some) who aren't in the squad for various reasons. Benny, Saul and Nigel all of whom play at a higher level. Read the debate instead of steaming in with opinions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 15, 2015, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 15, 2015, 10:05:00 AM
Have we such a wealth of talent in Antrim that we should omit PJ, catch a grip wud ya ?????  ::) ???

I never said at any stage he should be omitted. I said he was a decent player. I did say there were players his equal (and some) who aren't in the squad for various reasons. Benny, Saul and Nigel all of whom play at a higher level. Read the debate instead of steaming in with opinions.
Higher level doesn't equal better player. They play with better players week after week probably makes them look better than they maybe are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
Agreed but playing at a higher level develops players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
Agreed but playing at a higher level develops players.

He won't be afforded space at senior level but a lot of that will be down to what happens outfield, i.e ability of out field players playing decent ball in..... Certain teams at yoyo level always had a player that if you gave him ball he'd do damage... Tosh did it for years for Glenariffe. Again another player who'd get on any Antrim team (except Cushendall, for obvious reasons 😆)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 15, 2015, 02:39:56 PM
Antrim down three points at half time. Wexford player sent of straight red card for pulling back with the hurl.
Wexford 1 * 12 Antrim 1 * 9
http://www.southeastradio.ie/listen-live/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 15, 2015, 03:06:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
Agreed but playing at a higher level develops players.
Sure would county level not b a notch or two above div 1 club! He's held his own there the past few years. League games that the top teams don't really take seriously mightn't develop too many.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 15, 2015, 03:34:15 PM
Division one league games will be better for player development than division 2 league games. Coming up against Neal Mcauley, Conor Mckinley, Martin Scullion, James Campbell, Aaron Graffin etc. Will push him on. He will develop more against these quality defenders than many of the defenders he has been use to playing against in division 2. Can't argue with you in regards to his development at inter County level. It is definitely a step up again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2015, 03:38:07 PM
We hit the post in injury time and came back from seven down so while disappointing to lose sounded like a decent performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2015, 03:43:13 PM
We always do terribly against Limerick :(

Offaly and Laois the big games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 15, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
Well done Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 15, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
County left that behind them today. All square and Wexford lose a man then they hit last 3 scores of half?! Then a whole half against 14? They can't keep losing these tight games and say it was a good performance there comes a time when they have to take their chances and punish teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 15, 2015, 05:49:59 PM
Excellent performance from Antrim today against a very fancied Wexford. Well done to Rossa on their All Ireland success. Their next championship match is against us in the Antrim 1/4 final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 15, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
Congrats to rossa. Well done boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 15, 2015, 06:30:13 PM
Congratulations rossa.  Great win in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 15, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
well done to rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2015, 08:25:59 PM
Well done Rossa, that's Antrim winning all levels now....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 16, 2015, 12:43:16 AM
Well done to Rossa. I have been very critical of the club on this forum in the past and their "social" hurling ethos. Hands up and eating my words now. Whilst the big tests lie ahead I really enjoyed the win today and more so they spoke of senior ambitions. Hope HS you can take this forward. My nephew was on a Rossa bus and on the way home 2 people were turned away with alcohol as juveniles present. Credit due to those concerned.

What's the feeling on wexford park? I thought we would have lost heavily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2015, 12:44:41 AM
Serious effort by Antrim today who must feel that they are heading in the right direction.

Well done Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 16, 2015, 08:57:41 AM
congrats to Rossa. well done to all involved

big year ahead for them now as they move back up to the top level again. it will be interesting to see how they cope with move up and how they develop.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 16, 2015, 09:44:39 AM
Hurlingstick knows his stuff
Nigel Elliott - Cruciate Ligament; Sean Burke - In Australia; Benny - In America; Saul - unable to committ but part of the u21 set up.
Then our 6 forwards + plus the 4 brought in rack up 2-20 in Wexford Park.
Keep an eye on the league - see how many teams rack up 2-20 in Wexford Park. I'll guess none.

Fair play to Kevin Ryan and his team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 16, 2015, 10:12:00 AM
yeah Nigel did his cruciate that day against cdall in the semi final. he got the op done and is now going through his recovery training.

he wont be near the county set up this season

have to agree. 2-20 is impressive scoring away from home but as per usual we don't see a game out and lose it. we have got rectify that if we are ever to make any progress!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 16, 2015, 10:45:10 AM
All seeing/Dr... What about Nicky Mckeague? I've been watching him closely for 3 years now. He's very small but also very talented. Do you think he could cut it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 16, 2015, 12:52:24 PM
nickys stick work is great and his free taking is also very good. but his size sort of is a weak point. he can get pushed off a ball by a stronger/taller player.

loads of guts and not one ounce of fear in him on the pitch and a good forward but prob not physically strong enough for the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 16, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Sounds about right. It's a shame because he has bags of talent. Still, any defender without pace would get things tough against him. I remember his free taking display against Cushendall (I think) at Glenariffe a couple of seasons ago in the Feis cup. He was deadly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 16, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
you could be onto something there - i wouldn't really see size as too big a hinderance. You're right about the talent. The county hurlers are in some nick physically through sheer hardwork. And the Clare team that won the all ireland a couple of years ago weren't exactly blessed with big physical men, but they were like lightening and skillful. They worked on their strength and conditioning. Speed and skill are the key now. Players strength can be developed as you can see with our own players. I do think if the player has the skill you think he has, the physicallity can be worked on. Look at Daniel McKernan. Holding his own at CHF too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 16, 2015, 02:52:32 PM
Podge Collins was outstanding that year and look at all the size of him. I remember standing on the pitch at Thurles at the quarter finals that year and that Clare team were extremely lean. I was shocked!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 16, 2015, 05:22:05 PM
Could not make either match yesterday due to emergency at work.  Good shift by the county team and the Rossa boys.  Good to see the Rossa lads get a major title despite it being Intermediate level, well done all the same.  Just hope this sets them up to moving back up to the senior grade and pushing on.  :D ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 17, 2015, 04:18:14 AM
Congratulations to Rossa on their All Ireland.

I hope that they, St Johns and St Galls can make a real impact on the senior cship this year and cause some ripples amongst the big teams. We need our senior hurling cship and div1 league to be as hotly contested as intermediate cship and div 2 have been in recent years for the greater good of hurling in this county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 17, 2015, 09:43:21 AM
I - podge collins being the perfect example and they've brought another 2 in this yr of the same stature and they are some gravy!!
cfclg - agree with your sentiments but I think you can rule St Galls out of that for now. It appears they're in a bit of trouble. One or two experienced men have retired. But more importantly - they can't attract a manager.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2015, 11:05:12 AM
theres alot of good hurling men at St Galls who would be capable of doing the job this season. difference is that they need to want to do it!

wanting to do the job and being there means a lot more than someone whos there just to fill a post up. the heart wont be in it in that case.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
who is the idiot who replies to the posts on the county web site guestbook?

christ but they have a real chip on their shoulder towards the world in general!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 17, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
There's two of them as far as I know. I'd say there's a fair few posts don't even get through!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 17, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
He's a bit dry alright. I'd say it's Joe. In this forum we listen to some numpties thinking they're experts in everything hurling related. Can you imagine how difficult it must be dealing with lots of these 'experts' in person? It would make most good men a little cynical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 17, 2015, 01:55:47 PM
I know. A wee bit of humility goes a long way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 17, 2015, 02:15:10 PM
Spot on boys - i'm sure they have to listen to some dicks on a daily basis but there's probably a less sarcy way of responding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.

i was disappointed in the response given regarding not allowing 'advertising' for management positions on the site. Do they really think that the club in question hasn't looked elsewhere, surely the ANTRIM guestbook is a place where people might see that that club is looking for a manager, found the response in poor taste. I'm assuming the post was regarding the St Galls senior manager, as far as i know they as a club have been working hard to get the position filled, it would be nice if the county could give them a hand by letting the word out there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 17, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
All the same I for one think he is right this time, St.Galls record of paying managers down the years albeit mainly football does not encourage volunteerism in the club. In fact I believe in some clubs, players hold the view that a clubman managing the team would be somewhat second rate. Tough times ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2015, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.

i was disappointed in the response given regarding not allowing 'advertising' for management positions on the site. Do they really think that the club in question hasn't looked elsewhere, surely the ANTRIM guestbook is a place where people might see that that club is looking for a manager, found the response in poor taste. I'm assuming the post was regarding the St Galls senior manager, as far as i know they as a club have been working hard to get the position filled, it would be nice if the county could give them a hand by letting the word out there.

yeah it was that post that i noticed and their response. they could of chose not to post it but they, as per usual, had to make a point and post that reply.

is it any wonder people get annoyed at the way they run things when they respond like that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 17, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.

i was disappointed in the response given regarding not allowing 'advertising' for management positions on the site. Do they really think that the club in question hasn't looked elsewhere, surely the ANTRIM guestbook is a place where people might see that that club is looking for a manager, found the response in poor taste. I'm assuming the post was regarding the St Galls senior manager, as far as i know they as a club have been working hard to get the position filled, it would be nice if the county could give them a hand by letting the word out there.



yeah it was that post that i noticed and their response. they could of chose not to post it but they, as per usual, had to make a point and post that reply.

is it any wonder people get annoyed at the way they run things when they respond like that

Setting aside him trying not to be popular or what you might perceive to be the tone of it, what is wrong with what he said?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on February 17, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
I'm with the moderator on this one, advertising outside the club has obvious implications and I don't think the guestbook was the right forum.  Indeed I think the guestbook took the right response in taking the opportunity to reassert our opposition to paid management. 

Good luck to the club in question, I hope whoever it is gets a good clubman to take them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 17, 2015, 08:18:07 PM
Yes , because Antrim have never paid anyone to manage their teams. Wrong people to be taking the moral high ground. Maybe St Galls thought their would be a good egg out in the world who might donate their services free of charge. In the spirit of GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on February 17, 2015, 11:34:41 PM
You'd think there might be a young ambitious coach somewhere who would take it on for free. As an opportunity to coach at a higher level maybe. Perhaps this is why they advertised. It wasnt in the ad that it was a paid position! Itd be a good position for somebody whether they're paid or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 18, 2015, 07:56:42 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 17, 2015, 08:18:07 PM
Yes , because Antrim have never paid anyone to manage their teams. Wrong people to be taking the moral high ground. Maybe St Galls thought their would be a good egg out in the world who might donate their services free of charge. In the spirit of GAA.

Was there not an Ex Tyrone county player who did the bar in Casement (back in the days of harmony) and managed the Antrim footballers for free?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2015, 08:39:16 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 17, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.

i was disappointed in the response given regarding not allowing 'advertising' for management positions on the site. Do they really think that the club in question hasn't looked elsewhere, surely the ANTRIM guestbook is a place where people might see that that club is looking for a manager, found the response in poor taste. I'm assuming the post was regarding the St Galls senior manager, as far as i know they as a club have been working hard to get the position filled, it would be nice if the county could give them a hand by letting the word out there.



yeah it was that post that i noticed and their response. they could of chose not to post it but they, as per usual, had to make a point and post that reply.

is it any wonder people get annoyed at the way they run things when they respond like that

Setting aside him trying not to be popular or what you might perceive to be the tone of it, what is wrong with what he said?

its their constant sarky responses to the posts. its not constructive the way they reply to people.

our Board deserves all the criticisms that they get for the way they have handled themselves over the past while and for them to give off about a club searching for a manager is a bit rich. they search for a manager like one of them soccer teams!

XXXX Senior hurling team is currently looking for a Manager. If you are interested please contact the Secretary secretary.xxxxantrim@gaa.ie

Not a forum for advertising. Surely clubs have the means to notify their members internally. Certainly not a forum for seeking the services of paid coaches.

im pretty sure our county pays people to do a job for them. does the strength and conditioning coach do that for free? not a chance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on February 18, 2015, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 18, 2015, 08:39:16 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 17, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on February 17, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
its their dry response that annoys me. they really don't take any criticism of the county well at all.

i was disappointed in the response given regarding not allowing 'advertising' for management positions on the site. Do they really think that the club in question hasn't looked elsewhere, surely the ANTRIM guestbook is a place where people might see that that club is looking for a manager, found the response in poor taste. I'm assuming the post was regarding the St Galls senior manager, as far as i know they as a club have been working hard to get the position filled, it would be nice if the county could give them a hand by letting the word out there.



yeah it was that post that i noticed and their response. they could of chose not to post it but they, as per usual, had to make a point and post that reply.

is it any wonder people get annoyed at the way they run things when they respond like that

Setting aside him trying not to be popular or what you might perceive to be the tone of it, what is wrong with what he said?

its their constant sarky responses to the posts. its not constructive the way they reply to people.

our Board deserves all the criticisms that they get for the way they have handled themselves over the past while and for them to give off about a club searching for a manager is a bit rich. they search for a manager like one of them soccer teams!

XXXX Senior hurling team is currently looking for a Manager. If you are interested please contact the Secretary secretary.xxxxantrim@gaa.ie

Not a forum for advertising. Surely clubs have the means to notify their members internally. Certainly not a forum for seeking the services of paid coaches.

im pretty sure our county pays people to do a job for them. does the strength and conditioning coach do that for free? not a chance.

Exactly, and by the looks of the message and where the 'x's have been inserted i doubt there was any mention of pay, the more i think about it i've never seen a club job advertised offering payment, clubs who do pay managers don't openly advertise it for obvious reasons its usually discussed well down the line. Moderators response made the club to look bad in my opinion and it wasn't necessary to do so IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 18, 2015, 09:38:01 AM
XXXX Senior hurling team is currently looking for a Manager. If you are interested please contact the Secretary secretary.xxxxantrim@gaa.ie

Not a forum for advertising. Surely clubs have the means to notify their members internally. Certainly not a forum for seeking the services of paid coaches.

At which point did St Galls  (lets be honest) even mention that it was a paid coach? Nothing in the post even suggests it was to be paid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
By the moderator being such a tool in the past no matter what he says he won't win though his / their own fault...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 18, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Two weeks ago the admin on the guestbook said that all the fixtures would be released today. I asked the club secretary but he has got nothing.  I was chatting to a fella from County Down last week who was able to say that they have had their fixtures for 3 weeks now.

I understand we are a dual county and it may take a tiny bit longer but this is getting beyond a joke. I can't imagine it being that hard in reality. Football and Hurling league dates, Championship dates (easy peasy because let's face it, Antrim ain't winning any All Irelands), home and away fixtures for those dates and Voila!

As far as I know many of the people who are tasked with fixture scheduling and planning hold positions on a no. of committees that they would gladly give up if people could be found to replace them. I have been at the meetings where the pleas have been made yet no hands were raised. Again too few having to do too much. Constantly slating the administrators is never going to attract new blood ffs. I am not in a position to volunteer and as such i am not prepared to moan about these delays either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 18, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Two weeks ago the admin on the guestbook said that all the fixtures would be released today. I asked the club secretary but he has got nothing.  I was chatting to a fella from County Down last week who was able to say that they have had their fixtures for 3 weeks now.

I understand we are a dual county and it may take a tiny bit longer but this is getting beyond a joke. I can't imagine it being that hard in reality. Football and Hurling league dates, Championship dates (easy peasy because let's face it, Antrim ain't winning any All Irelands), home and away fixtures for those dates and Voila!

We've a master calendar with days and times set aside for certain competitions, yeah and we're a dual county as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 18, 2015, 11:10:50 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
Well I do volunteer almost Full time with the club so I am in a position to moan.
Aye me as well, but what has that got to do with drawing up fixtures for all clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2015, 11:25:16 AM
the seasons start the first week of april for both codes more or less. thats a months time.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 18, 2015, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 18, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Two weeks ago the admin on the guestbook said that all the fixtures would be released today. I asked the club secretary but he has got nothing.  I was chatting to a fella from County Down last week who was able to say that they have had their fixtures for 3 weeks now.

I understand we are a dual county and it may take a tiny bit longer but this is getting beyond a joke. I can't imagine it being that hard in reality. Football and Hurling league dates, Championship dates (easy peasy because let's face it, Antrim ain't winning any All Irelands), home and away fixtures for those dates and Voila!

As far as I know many of the people who are tasked with fixture scheduling and planning hold positions on a no. of committees that they would gladly give up if people could be found to replace them. I have been at the meetings where the pleas have been made yet no hands were raised. Again too few having to do too much. Constantly slating the administrators is never going to attract new blood ffs. I am not in a position to volunteer and as such i am not prepared to moan about these delays either.
Well said.
It's easy to moan about referees/county boards/managers/selectors/referees etc. But unless you are part of that particular set up, then you probably don't know all the facts. Do you honestly think any of them set out to be inefficient or ineffective? Frostbit could genuinely moan about the hinderance he is experiencing because of a lack of info from county board - its bound to be frustrating. What he can't moan about is the officials. There'll be a genuine reason for the delay in issuing fixtures.
However, if moaners believe it's the individuals holding office in county board or management teams or whatever who are at fault, then do something about finding a replacement.
Simples
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2015, 03:54:00 PM
frostbit ...if you yourself are almost full time as a volunteer, surely the penny's dropped by now that its not the other volunteers who are the problem. Its all those who chose not to do their bit who put everyone else under pressure and thats when things don't get done as well or as quick as they should be.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on February 18, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
Well I do volunteer almost Full time with the club so I am in a position to moan.
Full time? if your moaning, your heart is not in it, not giving it 100%.  If your moaning it is most likely the dissipation of negative energy.  Time to get out or move on possibly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 18, 2015, 06:17:12 PM
 ::)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 19, 2015, 10:33:30 AM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on February 18, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: frostbit on February 18, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
Well I do volunteer almost Full time with the club so I am in a position to moan.
Full time? if your moaning, your heart is not in it, not giving it 100%.  If your moaning it is most likely the dissipation of negative energy.  Time to get out or move on possibly?

How do you remember all of your different usernames and passwords?

Lol - great comeback. Well played sir.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 19, 2015, 04:03:21 PM
I won't comment on any aspect of payments in GAA as I've made my position so clear - and I would waste your dayside u had to read my rant!
I've a lot of time for St galls and hope hurling gets addressed the right way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 19, 2015, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 19, 2015, 04:03:21 PM
I won't comment on any aspect of payments in GAA as I've made my position so clear - and I would waste your dayside u had to read my rant!
I've a lot of time for St galls and hope hurling gets addressed the right way.
I'd imagine most clubs and not just St. galls would be willing to pay (as with most clubs ) for the right person, no big surprise in that ffs.  :D  They will not be the first or the last club to struggle gettin someone to take the reigns.  You would always fear for any club though who have to advertise for a hurling manager, I suppose the bogball would always have more appeal??  ??? :P  What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?  Are our boys likely to cause an upset or again just put up a stiff performance?  :-\ :-\   You would have to think the boys would need to win one soon, how long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over the line??????  Interesting times.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?
Chances of what? Winning or putting in a solid performance? Both would be a success in my book. What do you reckon yourself?

You would have to think the boys would need to win one soon?
"Would need to?"......Or else what? Of course we want them to win, but what will happen to if we don't that hasnt happened before? Will it be a disaster?

How long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over the line?
Youre implying that winning against the top teams is the be all and end all. Is it really? Theres no other way to make tangible progress unless you beat a top team? Do you believe that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 19, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?
Chances of what? Winning or putting in a solid performance? Both would be a success in my book. What do you reckon yourself?
I think they have a chance ok, especially playing in the town. Jaesus relax man I was only putting it out there for an opinion ffs. ???

You would haveo think the boys would need to win one soon?
"Would need to?"......Or else what? Of course we want them to win, but what will happen to if we don't that hasnt happened before? Will it be a disaster? ;

Surely a win is what we are aspiring to ffs, why bother otherwise??

Quote from: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?
Chances of what? Winning or putting in a solid performance? Both would be a success in my book. What do you reckon yourself?

A win wud be good no doubt, I think we are at a stage where we need more than a solid performance. I assume you dont agree?
You would have to think the boys would need to win one soon?
"Would need to?"......Or else what? Of course we want them to win, but what will happen to if we don't that hasnt happened before? Will it be a disaster?

It would be a disaster if we were at the relegation stages and take the drop.  Laudable performances are not enough in my book. If we continue to make the same mistakes, can we really were makin progress??  ;)

How long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over the line?
Youre implying that winning against the top teams is the be all and end all. Is it really? Theres no other way to make tangible progress unless you beat a top team? Do you believe that?
How long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over the line?
Youre implying that winning against the top teams is the be all and end all. Is it really? Theres no other way to make tangible progress unless you beat a top team? Do you believe that?
Quote from: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?
Chances of what? Winning or putting in a solid performance? Both would be a success in my book. What do you reckon yourself?

You would have to think the boys would need to win one soon?
"Would need to?"......Or else what? Of course we want them to win, but what will happen to if we don't that hasnt happened before? Will it be a disaster?

How long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over
Quote from: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
What chances Antrim on Sunday at the town?
Chances of what? Winning or putting in a solid performance? Both would be a success in my book. What do you reckon yourself?

You would have to think the boys would need to win one soon?
"Would need to?"......Or else what? Of course we want them to win, but what will happen to if we don't that hasnt happened before? Will it be a disaster?

How long can Ryan continue to talk up the performances without gettin over the line?
Youre implying that winning against the top teams is the be all and end all. Is it really? Theres no other way to make tangible progress unless you beat a top team? Do you believe that?
the line?
[/b]Youre implying that winning against the top teams is the be all and end all. Is it really? Theres no other way to make tangible progress unless you beat a top team? Do you believe that?
Aye competing against and winning against top teams will be a real benchmark. Are you saying that Wexford, Offally and Loais are top teams and we shud not be baten them??? Come on man, how long are we going to say its a work in progress and its a young team in transition?  The clock has to be ticking dont you agree?  ??? ;)  Top teams in my reckonin are Clare, Tipp, Kilkenny, Cork, Waterford, Galway. If we are really serious about progress we should be baten the rest. Only my opinion I may add.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 19, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
Aye competing against and winning against top teams will be a real benchmark. Are you saying that Wexford, Offally and Loais are top teams and we shud not be baten them??? Come on man, how long are we going to say its a work in progress and its a young team in transition?  The clock has to be ticking dont you agree?  ??? ;)  Top teams in my reckonin are Clare, Tipp, Kilkenny, Cork, Waterford, Galway. If we are really serious about progress we should be baten the rest. Only my opinion I may add.  ;)

I'm saying we have no right to beat any of those teams. It would be great to beat them, but I and I don't think Kevin Ryan hangs his hat on HAVING to beat them. I think he's doing a great job managing the players he has at his disposal. He has developed a strong work ethic in the bunch and those standards will stand us in good stead of we can maintain it. I think Antrim do rightly considering the apathy that exists in the county at all levels. Those that are putting in the effort need our support rather than a performance review.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 19, 2015, 11:24:37 PM
Agree 100 with Skull. Some great work going on in hurling which needs to be both applauded and supported.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
Fair weather 'supporters' (term used loosely :( ) trying to fix the ills of Antrim hurling from behind the keyboard. As Skull has said, if more committed people rolled their sleeves up and put the effort in we'd be in better place.... As for Wexford they have a great team coming through.... Performing in their pitch was a positive sign...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 19, 2015, 11:54:55 PM
If Antrim had the same fevered interest that there is say in the likes of Wexford, the reason to play and compete at the top level would be greater. We do rightly and those who give a toss should be rightly proud of the efforts of men prepared to go about things in the right way considering the number of take it or leave its about the place.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2015, 08:32:38 AM
I would agree here too. We can no suddenly expect to compete with the top teams in Ireland overnight.

The level we are at is the level Kevin Ryan has playing us at. There are a lot of teams at this level making big progress so for Kevin Ryan to have us competing at this level is a great achievement. Last year we got beat in the championship, allbeit well, by a very good wexford side who ended up beating the AI champions. We beat a very strong Laois team along the way and there were a lot of good results and performances along the way.

I find it the same in the hurling and the football in this county. There seem to be a lot of supporters who think we have a right to beat teams who are perhaps perceived as weaker. They think we should be competing with big boys. Every year in division 4 in the football we talk the same too.

We are not in the top tier in either code and need to take small incremental steps. I think Ryan is doing that. As for the football well most on here possibly don't care but we'll see soon enough if we're going in the right direction here too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 20, 2015, 08:42:14 AM
Statler & Waldorf at their irritating best ffs.   ;)   Nobody else entitled to an opinion?

We are results driven not performances. Have the lads improved in recent times under KR, of course they have. ;D  Would I like to see them win this Sunday (I'll be there) sure I would :D.  Would like them to Win 1B and move, sure I would. :D  Would I like them to be competing agin Clare, Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny on a regular basis, of course I would. ;D

So whats the issue ffs? Chillax. ;) ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2015, 08:52:38 AM
i think we are brave bit off competing against Cork, Clare, Tipp, KK etc. i agree with Skull on this. we have no divine right to be beating the likes of Laois or Westmeath. They see us a team no doubt that they are better than.

our performance against wexford was good, much better in fact. As KR pointed out he thought that we would roll over and lose by 11 but they didnt. they matched them right to the end and were unlucky not to draw the game. The fact that we could physically match them is bonus.

Limerick this weekend will be another tester to see if Wexford was a fluke. In years gone by we played well in one game, got unlucky and then next game back to the same old of being humped.

if we can continue to match teams physically and catch up on them in terms of skill i will be more than happy.

Dublin didnt become a Div 1 team over night, it took them quite a while of hard work - and plenty of money!! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 20, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 20, 2015, 08:42:14 AM
Statler & Waldorf at their irritating best ffs.   ;)   Nobody else entitled to an opinion?

We are results driven not performances. Have the lads improved in recent times under KR, of course they have. ;D  Would I like to see them win this Sunday (I'll be there) sure I would :D.  Would like them to Win 1B and move, sure I would. :D  Would I like them to be competing agin Clare, Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny on a regular basis, of course I would. ;D

So whats the issue ffs? Chillax. ;) ::) ???

Limerick run Kilkenny as close as anyone in August and still didn't manage to get out of Div1B earlier on in the year, have infinitely more resources, financially, playing numbers wise, recent underage success and whatever and you think Antrim have a chance of winning 1B?

You got to be realistic about what Kevin Ryan and Antrim can achieve short term and even long term.

IMO Antrim are like Laois, can throw a few upsets in along the way, but not enough to sustain a real push into the top echelons of intercounty hurling.

The resources, infrastructure, coaching, playing numbers isn't there for anything else.

Club hurling however is a much more even playing field as you shams should know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2015, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 20, 2015, 08:42:14 AM
Statler & Waldorf at their irritating best ffs.   ;)   Nobody else entitled to an opinion?

We are results driven not performances. Have the lads improved in recent times under KR, of course they have. ;D  Would I like to see them win this Sunday (I'll be there) sure I would :D.  Would like them to Win 1B and move, sure I would. :D  Would I like them to be competing agin Clare, Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny on a regular basis, of course I would. ;D

So whats the issue ffs? Chillax. ;) ::) ???

I am a bit confused here. You say that competing against wexford is not good enough but competing with Clare is
Didn't wexford put the Clare( all Ireland champions at the time ) out of the all Ireland last year after a replay. I think it's important to mention replay as that dismisses any ambush theories
I think you need to check your grading system sham man
To go down to wexford park and nearly come away with a win was a great performance
We where competing with before they went a man down to which was great
Limerick will be more of a challenge as they have a very strong panel and beat tipp in Munster and ran kilkenny very close in the semi fjnal
A single digit defeat to me can be considered real progress
I like the kevin Ryan set up. When you read player interviews now they don't talk about how good the opposition was, it's more about what they have to improve on,
From a supporter perspective imm going down as optimistic as ever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
im hopeful we can get a result on Sunday and i will be there with a bit more hope after last weekends performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 10:02:23 AM
Eddie McCloskey drops to the bench this Sunday. Matty Donnelly starts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 20, 2015, 10:22:43 AM
Reports show clearly Antrim were hurling better against 15 men. The team going down to 14 normally ups its game. The team with 15 psycholigically sits back. The "extra man" excuse doesnt wash in hurling.
As pointed out, Wexford dumped Clare last yr. They are, in the records, one of the top 4 in 2014.
Antrim hit them for 1-07 without reply when they finally realised 15 men have to work harder.

We can debate all day long about whether or not the panel is the 28 best hurlers in the county.
What we can't debate is whether or not it is the most committed 28 hurlers in the county - because, for a fact, it is!!

Progress has been made. Ryan has set a standard of what it takes to represent our county. That alone is progress.

Antrim will beat Limerick on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 10:39:59 AM
All Seeing; Antrim will beat Limerick on Sunday.


Brave call!!! I hope you're right. Matty Donnelly starting would worry me.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 20, 2015, 11:19:35 AM
Don't know if they will but I think we can beat Limerick if the players empty the tank
One thing does intrigue me
Last years league we ran wexford to a point, should have beat cork but when we meet these teams later In the year the whole landscape changes
Are these other teams improving from league form and we are stagnant In terms of speeding everything up

Against Wexford in the championship it was all over In ten minutes
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2015, 11:25:26 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 10:02:23 AM
Eddie McCloskey drops to the bench this Sunday. Matty Donnelly starts.

please tell me thats a wind up or eddies injured  :o

matty isnt a forward, how many times do we have to see him play poorly in the forwards before someone catches on.

hes a defender, end of
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Ballycastle don't even know where to play him, he has poor mobility. Maybe he has been doing good things in training. Eddie is a very talented player. I think he can blow a bit hot and cold though. Glad Campbell and McRory are starting.
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Post by: All seeing I on February 20, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
Ballycastle don't even know where to play him, he has poor mobility. Maybe he has been doing good things in training. Eddie is a very talented player. I think he can blow a bit hot and cold though. Glad Campbell and McRory are starting.
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Two good replacements. Big Matty is obviously the muscle in a speedy but small forward line. Not a bad policy when you think about it. Have seen him about the town....he's looking in good nick. Good ball winner whether at the back or the front.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2015, 12:06:22 PM
unless he has trained something serious in the last year on his speed because i see buses turn quicker in belfast than him.

the lads a big strong man and when played in defence he does a good job. Hes not a forward, never was, yet for some reason he is thrown into the forward line for his club at times. Dont understand it at all.

here i hope he proves me wrong but i just cant see it from previous showings
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 12:07:39 PM
I hope you're right! I've never seen him play well for club or county. He is young enough though and maybe there is development in him. If he catches a couple of high balls and sets up 3 pointers then he is worth it. My guess - he'll be taken off early in the 2nd half. But like I said, I hope I'm wrong and the big man does well.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 12:10:57 PM
DR - any quick forward would have a field day on him when he is playing at the back. He is just too slow. Now him against Paddy Doc - that would be an interesting battle.
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Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2015, 12:21:26 PM
I definitely see reason for optimism with the county team but it's still a long way before deciding if we can move up a level raising standards or just compete at our own level.
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Post by: Sham Man on February 20, 2015, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 10:39:59 AM
All Seeing; Antrim will beat Limerick on Sunday.


Brave call!!! I hope you're right. Matty Donnelly starting would worry me.
Brave call indeed, but as long as we compete  ;) ::) ???

Gotta be frank here, KR undoubtedly has made vast improvements and I would say he is a man who certainly knows his hurling, no dispute.  But ffs, are we going to be content with the with just competing and not winning???  >:(  Have we no ambition, aspirations or desire to be playing agin the big boys and putting them to the sword? Surely ta jaesus we have to be aiming for the top level instead of listening to the same problems, excuses year in year out. 

For me personally, I would not be playing just to make up the numbers and to be just competing at our own level.  ::) ???  We have to aim high and strive to be better and make tangible and meaningful progress.  Why bother otherwise? Progress in itself is all well and good, but we do eventually have to start winning.

I dont see progress as merely going through the motions and only desire to survive in Div 1B each year.  ::) ::)  meaningless if you ask me.  Just competing is not enough, bound to tell on the lads in the long term, despite ongoing the perrenial valiant efforts.

Eddie on the bench is unreal.  Mattie a nice enough lad, but seriously?  ;) ;)

Bit of advice needed: does anyone know if the Apple Shop in Victoria Centre is open late tonight,my iPad is playing up and only got the fcekin at Xmas,  or should I just wait until tomorrow? Hopefully, it will be working on Sunday so i keep some of you fervent and loyal Saffron boys updated.  ;) ;)  Despite best intentions, we all cant make every game, work, domestics, hangovers, car playing up or being used by the current Mrs.  ;D ;D ;)   Well, back to work, quare day for it.  ;)
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 12:10:57 PM
DR - any quick forward would have a field day on him when he is playing at the back. He is just too slow. Now him against Paddy Doc - that would be an interesting battle.

;D not alot of pace there. Serious heavy hitting between them tho lol

Matty is a full back but with Cormac back it rules him out of that position for his club.

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Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2015, 04:18:09 PM
James  McShane has come into his own in that position too for Ballycastle. I like him.
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Post by: btdtgtt on February 20, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the venue - Limerick will do enough to win. But a narrow loss is not a bad result for antrim.
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Post by: Sham Man on February 20, 2015, 06:49:14 PM
Well, well, well, just been told that Graffin appears to agree with me about moral victories and just competing. Graffin also says they need to start winning an put points on the board. Nigh, it wouldn't be like me to agree with Graffin.  ;) ;D
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Post by: WTF u on about? on February 21, 2015, 12:48:25 AM
What position do they have Eddie in normally? Times I see him for the county and he's stuck in corner forward. Or in chf too. Always plays best at wing half forward. he just seems to drift into good positions from there unmarked and b4 u know it he's a couple of goals after being quiet for the most part.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 21, 2015, 02:08:18 PM
Not sure if he would get to do that at this level wtf. It is his best position though. By his own high standards he had a poor season for club. I for one am glad he is back in the county setup as he is really talented (on his day). You have to hand it to Loughiel, they have a habit of producing really good forwards.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 09:34:21 AM
Can any of our posters from  ballycastle report the wheather
It's snowing hard up here in dunloy
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Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2015, 10:21:54 AM
On the lower slopes it's rain nah. Will be a tough day to hurl. Ballycastle will be brutal in this weather. Expect a poor crowd
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 10:47:23 AM
It is blowing a gale and lashing rain here in Ballycastle. Won't be any free flowing hurling today.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 11:09:39 AM
Will the match be on Bonamargy? Thinking of getting in my car soon.
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 11:19:10 AM
It has to be in doubt. I will make a few enquiries and let you know asap
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 11:21:34 AM
Thanks a lot
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 11:22:50 AM
There is a pitch inspection at 12pm to see if the game goes ahead.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 11:25:39 AM
Great work Bonamargy...thanks again
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 12:17:01 PM
Match goes ahead after inspection
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 12:21:57 PM
Yes the referee is happy to throw it in at 2pm
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 12:23:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 12:17:01 PM
Match goes ahead after inspection

Cheers dude
I'll get my wellys
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 02:07:53 PM
Limerick 2 up. Early days.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 02:13:12 PM
3-3
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Roddy McCorley 0*7 Sean South0*8
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
8-8
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Half time. Antrim 0-09 limerick 0-10
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
Antrim 1* 9 Limerick 0 * 12
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:02:05 PM
Limerick 0 * 14 Antrim 1 * 9 need to make a couple of changes
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Ciaran Clarke nicks one over one point game
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Limerick lead by two finding their scores a little bit easier
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 03:09:41 PM
0-15 to 1-10
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
0 * 16 to 1 * 12
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:16:03 PM
limerick up 2 now
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
Limerick now lead by 3
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:19:35 PM
Antrim giving away a lot of frees
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:28:54 PM
Limerick up 6 now Antrim not even winning their own puck outs
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Limerick win well in the end 0*23 to 1*12 Antrim very poor in the second half.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 03:41:24 PM
Antrim didn't score in the last 25 minutes.  :-X
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 22, 2015, 03:41:24 PM
Antrim didn't score in the last 25 minutes.  :-X
Depressing statistic. But at the end of the day I think we will hear a lot a bout this Limerick team later on in the year. Surprised Antrim didn't make more changes.
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Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
The weather shamed me away from ballycastle today so didn't see the game - but I have now discovered the world of Twitter!
Does anyone know when club league fixtures are out?
Or is that the annual loaded question!
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
They made lots of changes. McCloskey, Carson, McAfee, Hamill, McFadden ....terrible 2nd half. Our forwards won no ball 2nd half. Distribution is still our downfall. Our defenders are too quick to win the ball then hit and hope. Then again our captain is the worst offender.
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 22, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
They made lots of changes. McCloskey, Carson, McAfee, Hamill, McFadden ....terrible 2nd half. Our forwards won no ball 2nd half. Distribution is still our downfall. Our defenders are too quick to win the ball then hit and hope. Then again our captain is the worst offender.
I didn't see the game was listening in on Limerick radio where the commentator refereed to "Antrim man" mostly when we were in position. So a different world than actually being there. As regards distribution of ball a forward is only as good as the ball he gets. I like to see low hard diagonal balls towards the corner flags, it opens the game up and gives the forward more time on the ball.

Think were good enough to take Laois and Offaly we will see I suppose.
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 22, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
The weather shamed me away from ballycastle today so didn't see the game - but I have now discovered the world of Twitter!
Does anyone know when club league fixtures are out?
Or is that the annual loaded question!

The moderator on the county guestbook said that the club secretaries were getting the fixtures this weekend and they would be posted to the county website tomorrow. Wouldn't hold your breath though.

Too many wides from Antrim in the first half today when we had the wind at our backs. With that wind we would have needed a 5/6 point lead at half time.  Limerick are a good side and took their scores well when they had a chance to shoot.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:20:59 PM
Umpire gave a wide first half. Ref overruled in favour of Limerick. 2nd half Limerick had a clear wide from a free, ref gave a point .....just saying (no excuse)
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 22, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
The weather shamed me away from ballycastle today so didn't see the game - but I have now discovered the world of Twitter!
Does anyone know when club league fixtures are out?
Or is that the annual loaded question!

The moderator on the county guestbook said that the club secretaries were getting the fixtures this weekend and they would be posted to the county website tomorrow. Wouldn't hold your breath though.

Too many wides from Antrim in the first half today when we had the wind at our backs. With that wind we would have needed a 5/6 point lead at half time.  Limerick are a good side and took their scores well when they had a chance to shoot.

Spot on
wides when had the breeze , we should have been 5 points up. Add the goal after half time woukd have kept us in it
Silly choping for the frees
Tim  Condon deliberately took out mc manus with a late tackle and that had a real impact to
Some of our subs didn't work either
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
Hound, he barely touched McManus with that tackle. McManus went off with a pulled muscle. He needs to knock that diving/screaming on the head.
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Post by: theskull1 on February 22, 2015, 04:47:50 PM
Yes we had the chance to build a bit of a lead in the first half but I think mentally we need to go a stage or two before we have the belief to take a lead on the good teams. Those first half wides and a few fluffed shots in the second was our downfall. In open play for most of the game we contested well but our forward line never looked to have the beating of the limerick defense. We really dropped off in the last 10 minutes to give the slightly flattering scoreline to Limerick
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
We didn't score in the last 25 minutes - that's why we got beat!
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
Hound, he barely touched McManus with that tackle. McManus went off with a pulled muscle. He needs to knock that diving/screaming on the head.

Your not a mc manus fan then
Whatever the reason he went off things went a bit pete tong after
He was having a good game as was shorty
We did fade very badly at the end regardless of that
Still a lot of work to do
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
I'm not his biggest fan but I totally agree himself and shorty were outstanding today. Shorty has the talent but more importantly the attitude. Clarkie and Eoghan were good too. Rest of the forwards did very little.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
I'm not his biggest fan but I totally agree himself and shorty were outstanding today. Shorty has the talent but more importantly the attitude. Clarkie and Eoghan were good too. Rest of the forwards did very little.

Agreed on the forwards the rest where not at the races
If your count out the silly chopping( the ref was very fussy about any chopping)
It was a 4 point game
Limericks off the ball movement was better and they could take scores with men in space
Their striking was better too
Antrim fluffed some easy scores mc closely missed a dead feet 25 out
And graffan fluffed one too
Still they battled hard and are getting better
Looking like a shoot out between ourselves, Laois and offaly again this year
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 05:44:16 PM
Sounds right.... At the risk of repeating myself, not scoring in the last 25 minutes was criminal but great to see us competitive against one of the top teams in the country for long periods. Thankfully the Laois and Ofally games are at home as they are the important ones. After today whether or not they will be at Ballycastle is another thing.
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Post by: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
IMO team lineout completely wrong today. neil playing as sweeper in front of half backs when there was no need to keep him back. we never won a puckout allday. ours or theirs. neil should have played as a conventional midfielder. ciaran johnston was as ever all heart but sorry he is not a midfielder. again only my opinion but that was as weak a half back line i have seen play for antrim in a long while. i know you can only work with the personnel you have but for me you build your team around a solid strong half back line. graffin, neil mc auley & neil mc manus are our strongest half back line.also the most frustrating thing for me is that 7 or 8 of limericks points today were down to our mistakes. handpassing the ball to opponents when hassled, short puck outs to a half back on a heavy pitch like that & when there is a ruck of players why do we never come up with the ball?   difference was limericks composure when on the ball & our lack of it. bad decision making all day & that is un nerving. surely having had the time KR has had, composure should become almost instinct? second half limerick played a spare man around the middle with the wind cos they knew we werent getting our puck outs beyond that. what did we do in the first half with the wind? left neil mc auley free in our full back line for too long. big games like these wont be won conservatively. we need to be more pro active & encourage players to build confidence by taking more responsibility themselves.
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Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2015, 07:15:05 PM
Having not been at the game take this with a pinch of salt but so far there's been three themes on McManus - gave away frees, dives, switching positions.
Heard them all before.
Now let me say I think Neil is a quality hurler - an a great PR man - but wouldn't we be better selecting him in a position and having him hurl like everyone else? This shifting positions game to game is nonsense - give him a simple  job and let him to do well. The 14 around him will also benefit.

The idea of an annual shoot out with offaly & Laois is mundane again. Every season is a groundhog day. Championship will be the same round-robins with the same teams - then a loss once we play a real contender.

Why would the future games be moved from ballycastle?
The weather is the weather - was the pitch poor?
Where would games move to?
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 07:18:07 PM
We did give them several of their scores which was disappointing. We don't distribute the ball too well. Quick small forwards (Clarkie, PJ, Daniel) yet we lumped high ball in time after time. I thought our half back line did rightly. I thought Simon and woody were really competitive. Paul Shiels is a class act.
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
Game had to be stopped on 7 occasions as the sliothar sank into the soil. Shocking!!
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
Quote from: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
IMO team lineout completely wrong today. neil playing as sweeper in front of half backs when there was no need to keep him back. we never won a puckout allday. ours or theirs. neil should have played as a conventional midfielder. ciaran johnston was as ever all heart but sorry he is not a midfielder. again only my opinion but that was as weak a half back line i have seen play for antrim in a long while. i know you can only work with the personnel you have but for me you build your team around a solid strong half back line. graffin, neil mc auley & neil mc manus are our strongest half back line.also the most frustrating thing for me is that 7 or 8 of limericks points today were down to our mistakes. handpassing the ball to opponents when hassled, short puck outs to a half back on a heavy pitch like that & when there is a ruck of players why do we never come up with the ball?   difference was limericks composure when on the ball & our lack of it. bad decision making all day & that is un nerving. surely having had the time KR has had, composure should become almost instinct? second half limerick played a spare man around the middle with the wind cos they knew we werent getting our puck outs beyond that. what did we do in the first half with the wind? left neil mc auley free in our full back line for too long. big games like these wont be won conservatively. we need to be more pro active & encourage players to build confidence by taking more responsibility themselves.
Mc manus wasn't only sweeping, he was roaming between the forties the whole match
Sure when he was down it was on our half forward line
M. Manus drifted to their puck out range in the first half to
His going off through injury high lighted his worth as we didn't score afterwards
Imm only mentioning this as your implying where he was positioned he wasn't in the game
I would like to see his pocession  count compared to other players bar shorty
We Made mistakes for sure that lead to Limerick scores but they would be lower than their free count due to fowling
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Post by: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
hurlingstick. sorry but for me i thought simon mc crory had an absolute nightmare. his man no 12 ran riot all day. im not slating simon as a player but i think he doesnt have enough guile or craft for wing back. again its easy to analyase from the hill but thats how i saw it
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Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 08:11:30 PM
Quote from: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
hurlingstick. sorry but for me i thought simon mc crory had an absolute nightmare. his man no 12 ran riot all day. im not slating simon as a player but i think he doesnt have enough guile or craft for wing back. again its easy to analyase from the hill but thats how i saw it

Well that's what it's all about - differences of opinion. I was nearside of the pitch and thought he battled gallantly in the first half. Then again I don't overly rate McManus when most would say he is brilliant.
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Post by: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
north antrim hound.im not implying neil wasnt in the game cos of where he was positioned. im implying exactly what you said that he should be played in a position & kept there & personally i think that position should be wing back
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2015, 09:27:07 PM
Quote from: auld stock on February 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
north antrim hound.im not implying Neil wasn't in the game cos of where he was positioned. I'm implying exactly what you said that he should be played in a position & kept there & personally i think that position should be wing back

The mc manus conundrum is a intresting one and should be discussed
The reality is this last five six years and before that we have been fielding teams with 4 Maybe 6 sub standard players at top level
Some of our better players have to assume several roles to redress the balance in different areas
I have witnessed this on many occasions
I will be delighted when players like him and shorty can just concentrate on there respective zones
Because that would suggest we have a full complement of top county players
Anyway the lads tried hard today but there is still a lot to learn in terms of decision making and discipline.


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Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2015, 09:32:27 PM
Mcmanus is a half back. He plays a lot in forwards because cushendall have too many good defenders and not enough good forwards. He's the most versatile.

We made nowhere near what we should have of gary o'kane for years by playing him out of position and we're doing the same here.
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 09:36:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 05:44:16 PM
Sounds right.... At the risk of repeating myself, not scoring in the last 25 minutes was criminal but great to see us competitive against one of the top teams in the country for long periods. Thankfully the Laois and Ofally games are at home as they are the important ones. After today whether or not they will be at Ballycastle is another thing.

Why would they not be at Ballycastle? The whole of Ireland suffered wind and rain today and the last couple of days. The club did well to get the game played at all. It is February, I don't think you will get a pitch anywhere in this county in better shape today.
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
Game had to be stopped on 7 occasions as the sliothar sank into the soil. Shocking!!

I refer to my reply above!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 10:19:05 PM
Pitch was very poor and I would imagine the distance Limerick travelled was the factor most considered when passing inspection. Watch the rest of the division 1 highlights and compare. I think you're letting heart rule head and I can respect you sticking up for your club. But that pitch was not good enough. You've seen the stat I've provided. Nobody can say that was the best surface in the county today unless they drove round all the pitches. KR was not impressed at all!!
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Post by: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 10:41:02 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 10:19:05 PM
Pitch was very poor and I would imagine the distance Limerick travelled was the factor most considered when passing inspection. Watch the rest of the division 1 highlights and compare. I think you're letting heart rule head and I can respect you sticking up for your club. But that pitch was not good enough. You've seen the stat I've provided. Nobody can say that was the best surface in the county today unless they drove round all the pitches. KR was not impressed at all!!

I am not disputing that the pitch was soft after all the rain that we had over the preceding three days. It was either play the game or cancel it. With Casement closed is there really anywhere else to play National league hurling matches? I did watch league Sunday and I can say that there were no hard bouncy surfaces on display. Anthony Daly commented on the playing surface being soft and lacking grass in the Galway v Tipp game, which is to be expected at this time of year.

I think your expectation of a playing surface at this time of the year is unrealistic. Pairc MacUilin was voted the Antrim and Ulster ground of the year in 2012. I think that says it all really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on February 22, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
The reality is quiet simple. Antrim have three new pitches at Dunsilly and cannot use them because they have no welfare facilities yet. Last season Antrin increased their team expenditure by £100k due to managers wanting larger panels, I'm no architect but surely £100k could build four changing rooms and a meeting room rather than the ludicrous £1.2m Antrim say they need even if it's to get Dunsilly up and running.. Until such times as Antrim and Ulster council extract the digit and get the Casement disaster sorted Antrim have to go to club grounds to play their matches. Antrim do not contribute towards the clubs hosting the county games or days they train on them which in my opinion is a disgrace. I'm sure the groundmen in Ballycastle did not like to see their pitches cut up ( warm up done on the second pitch) but at the end of the day both teams had to play on it.

If Kevin Ryan is trying to blame a pitch he needs a reality check, the reason Antrim are competing and then falling away in the last quarter of matches is down to poor decision making from the sideline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 22, 2015, 10:41:02 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 22, 2015, 10:19:05 PM
Pitch was very poor and I would imagine the distance Limerick travelled was the factor most considered when passing inspection. Watch the rest of the division 1 highlights and compare. I think you're letting heart rule head and I can respect you sticking up for your club. But that pitch was not good enough. You've seen the stat I've provided. Nobody can say that was the best surface in the county today unless they drove round all the pitches. KR was not impressed at all!!

I am not disputing that the pitch was soft after all the rain that we had over the preceding three days. It was either play the game or cancel it. With Casement closed is there really anywhere else to play National league hurling matches? I did watch league Sunday and I can say that there were no hard bouncy surfaces on display. Anthony Daly commented on the playing surface being soft and lacking grass in the Galway v Tipp game, which is to be expected at this time of year.

I think your expectation of a playing surface at this time of the year is unrealistic. Pairc MacUilin was voted the Antrim and Ulster ground of the year in 2012. I think that says it all really

I think it is the best ground in the county (along with Creggan). But it was simply not good enough today. The players deserve better for the intense work they are putting in. I've never been to a hurling match where a game had to be stopped 7 times as the ball got stuck in the surface.

Glensgael? KR is a fine manager. What bad decisions did he make with the players at his disposal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on February 23, 2015, 08:01:18 AM
Look no one is denyimg the pitch was soft as you've stated on a few posts the match was stopped on 7 occasions and probably isn't acceptable but my first point is if Antrim aren't prepared to invest in the infrastructure they just have to make do. Maybe they'll find a spare £100k this season and get changing rooms at Dunsilly.

With reference to management decisions there are two things, 1. In the first half of the match why did Antrim play a sweeper when Chrissy was able to puck the ball into the forward line. 2. We seem to be playing players who are backs for their clubs in the forward line and leaving forwards on the bench

Everyone has different opinions and the above is mine, it would be boring if everyone just nodded their head and agreed with everyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2015, 09:00:38 AM
Stating the obvious.....Its one thing having good pitche(s) and facilities. You also need an ability for a decent crowd  :-\ to watch the game as well as have good parking arrangements and access to the ground. Doesn't Dunsilly fail on all of those? Its a training facility only isnt it? ...and will never be suitable for official senior county games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 23, 2015, 09:35:07 AM
Quote from: glensgael on February 22, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
The reality is quiet simple. Antrim have three new pitches at Dunsilly and cannot use them because they have no welfare facilities yet. Last season Antrin increased their team expenditure by £100k due to managers wanting larger panels, I'm no architect but surely £100k could build four changing rooms and a meeting room rather than the ludicrous £1.2m Antrim say they need even if it's to get Dunsilly up and running.. Until such times as Antrim and Ulster council extract the digit and get the Casement disaster sorted Antrim have to go to club grounds to play their matches. Antrim do not contribute towards the clubs hosting the county games or days they train on them which in my opinion is a disgrace. I'm sure the groundmen in Ballycastle did not like to see their pitches cut up ( warm up done on the second pitch) but at the end of the day both teams had to play on it.

If Kevin Ryan is trying to blame a pitch he needs a reality check, the reason Antrim are competing and then falling away in the last quarter of matches is down to poor decision making from the sideline.

i am an architect and £100k wouldnt build you half of what you have listed there. Im currently regenerating an existing public structure and at £1.5 million were falling short of what needs done.

The amount of cash needed to get everything done at dunsilly is realistic, sad thing is that the entrance bridge under the railway will cost the same again!

Went to the game on sunday and at half time i thought we had matched them pretty well. They tackled and harashed limerick and never gave them a snuff on goal. I was worried that we had put serious effort in that half and couldnt maintain it in the second.

I didnt like being right but after we scored the goal it kicked Limerick into life and they never looked like losing after they went in front.

Our forwards didnt do enough to win the ball. it was turned over far too easily and the number of balls wasted by either dropping short or wide was poor.

Also our half fowards let limericks half backs get involved with the play too much. they were pushing up and providing an outlet for a pass and we never cut it out.

Disappointing but were slowly getting there. It looks like its the usual of having to try and beat Laois and Offaly again this season!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.

Agreed - and some positivity too!!
Some facts to keep in mind before waffling about the calibre of our players.
Limerick : 2013 Munster champions. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Clare by 7 points.
Limerick : 2014 Munster finalists. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Kilkenny by two points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2015, 11:38:49 AM
Agreed DR they did seem to go up a gear when we got the goal
Tiredness did play a part in Limerick enjoying more space to take scores and maybe fatuige played its part on the sloppy fowling last  third
Add up our wides and shorts balls In the first half, the frees conceded in the second half and the loss of one of our most effective players
Limerick tanked us last year and got out with an 8 point win this year

I know no one likes to hear the progress word but they do seem to be running good teams closer
Maybe the conditions evened things up its hard to say
I stylish hard to mark ball wining forward woukd be some addition like what danny Sutcliffe is doing for Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.

Agreed - and some positivity too!!
Some facts to keep in mind before waffling about the calibre of our players.
Limerick : 2013 Munster champions. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Clare by 7 points.
Limerick : 2014 Munster finalists. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Kilkenny by two points.

I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2015, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.

Agreed - and some positivity too!!
Some facts to keep in mind before waffling about the calibre of our players.
Limerick : 2013 Munster champions. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Clare by 7 points.
Limerick : 2014 Munster finalists. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Kilkenny by two points.

I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.
It's not called division 2 but division 1b
We are are playing some of the best teams in the country
Clare plied there trade there the year they won the all Ireland and the team they beat played in it last year. Limerick are in it and beat tipp in Munster last year and ran kilkenny to 2 points in the semi
If we are capable of finishing In the top three of 1b then I see no reason to fear anyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2015, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.

Some guidance for you btdtgtt if you want to play the role
http://changeyourteam.com/devils-advocate/ (http://changeyourteam.com/devils-advocate/)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 23, 2015, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.

Some guidance for you btdtgtt if you want to play the role
http://changeyourteam.com/devils-advocate/ (http://changeyourteam.com/devils-advocate/)

Very Good skull ;D
The points outlined by NAH prove my point - when we start returning those results in Championship like other teams - then I will be happier.

At the minute I see an 8 point loss at home in the second tier, to a weakened side.
And that's just a fact. The bookies gave us a 5 point handicap - and Limerick beat that!
Being optimistic for the sake of it won't change that!

But again, I'm not being negative, maybe realistic sounds better than devil's advocate if you like!

Onwards to the next games(s) and let's hope for win(s)!
A stong standing to bring us in to when it matters in the Summer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.

Agreed - and some positivity too!!
Some facts to keep in mind before waffling about the calibre of our players.
Limerick : 2013 Munster champions. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Clare by 7 points.
Limerick : 2014 Munster finalists. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Kilkenny by two points.

I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.

Propaganda is info of a biased or misleading nature being used to promote a cause. I gave you facts about Limerick and to be honest, i really wouldnt be too fussed about promoting the Limerick cause.
Those facts show just where Limerick hurling is at present.
I have used these facts to maybe shed some light on how Antrim are fairing in Division 1B. A one point loss in Wexford Park and toe to toe with Limerick for 60 mins.
What has Thurles in July got to do with this arguement? Both teams had to play in Ballycastle yesterday! And given this new brand of Antrim hurler, Antrim were probably at a greater disadvantage than Limerick yesterday! That's a very old arguement. About as old as league is league and championship is championship. Do you think Antrim will still only be a league side come championship this year?
"Many of their top players were missing" - How many were they missing from Kilmallock?

Limerick only pulled away when Antrim lost their midfield pairing who, to that point, were dominating their opposite numbers. Add that to the fact that at least two Antrim sure starters were on the line yesterday with injuries. Two men who would make a massive difference. When it came to the crunch - both panels were SLIGHTLY depleted yesterday.

I've got a bit carried away on this one, apologies. We've become too accustomed to progressive debates of late. I just wouldnt want to slip back into the dark ways - like the southern managers and their "keep up the good work up there" sh!te.

You're 100% right though about the championship. That is where we all want to see the big win!! I hope we do get one. But for now - if we win our last three games we'll definitely make the league knock out stages and not just be seen as survivalists!
Wouldn't that be a great basis to launch your championship campaign??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2015, 01:04:43 PM
Dublin  beat us by ten in the walsh cup
They just chinned kilkenny yesterday by 5
We are no world beaters I know but things are better
There's an argument fir both sides here
If someone said we matched them for 40 odd minutes but tired in the last third you coulnt argue
Or you could say we hung on to their coat tales for a while before they broke free that holds some water as well
KR said he is not interested in moral victories and wants some points
Straight talking and long overdue
If that mindset exist in the camp and they keep working on the stuff they failed at yesterday then what else can you ask for
and we do need to start making a jump in our standards from leauge to championship like the big guns do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 23, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
When you're building from a relatively low base, you look for positives that are there and see if you can build on them. Positives exist

Antrim fought toe to toe with Limerick for 45 minutes. They should take massive heart from that and see if they can work on sustaining that belief for longer. Its obvious to me that, mentally we're just not at the point YET where we've 15 harden up players who got the ego to feel we're good enough to beat these team. Alot of the wides and fluffed shots came from that mindset. I could be wrong.  Rather than Limerick up their game, I thought we dropped our workrate and collective organisation and Limerick stood on our throat when the gaps opened up. If we'd have kept up the demeanor from the first half Limerick would've had plenty to worry about. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 01:16:46 PM
Brilliant points Skull + NAH. I have wondered for years what could be done to address a lack of mental steel. I have believed for a long time it's part of the problem. A major part. I hope these group of players can see the progress being mad and how far they've come. That'll feed into our minors, u16s, 14s, 12s etc.
It's nice to be in a place where we know that, finally, every time we go to watch our county play we are guaranteed to get a performance and be in with a shout, no matter who we play!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 23, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
devloping a strong winning mentality is so important. As a player you dont believe you can get beat and the players around all believe it you are hard to beat or put away.

Aaron Graffins miss was a bad one at an important time of the game, had it one over maybe we would have hung in their a bit more in the game. We had one shot on goal on game also which was disappointing.

The full forward line didnt get into the game and was highlighted with matty and PJ coming off. They couldnt get going at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
True - Aaron's shot was an important junction in the game. If there's one player you'd want for reliabillity its Aaron. Never lets you down. I'm sure he's well forgiven!

Genuine question re shots on goal - did Limerick have any??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 23, 2015, 11:42:07 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 23, 2015, 11:02:12 AM
Great to see a variety of opinions on here and being done in a respectful manner. Feeling positive about the season. Limerick are one of the best teams in Ireland and we matched them right up to the 45th minute.

Agreed - and some positivity too!!
Some facts to keep in mind before waffling about the calibre of our players.
Limerick : 2013 Munster champions. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Clare by 7 points.
Limerick : 2014 Munster finalists. All Ireland Semi Finalists - beaten by AI Champions Kilkenny by two points.

I prefer to call this devil's advocate rather than being negative - postivity for the sake of it is basically propaganda.
The fact is that playing Limerick in Ballycastle in February is just not comparable to Thurles in July. That's the same for all counties. The old league is league and championship is championship.
Much less the issue that we were still beaten off the park in the last quarter of the game.
Particularly when many of their top players are absent while preparing for Ballyhale.

Thats said - wins against Laois & Offaly should regain our Division 2 status - and we should accpt we've quite simply got no place in Division 1. I'm fine with that - not a criticism. Division 2 survival and a few wins is not a negative for me at all.
In terms of championship when the the real judgement comes - I would love to see us pick up a scalp there rather than the annual procession of results against the same teams.

Propaganda is info of a biased or misleading nature being used to promote a cause. I gave you facts about Limerick and to be honest, i really wouldnt be too fussed about promoting the Limerick cause.
Those facts show just where Limerick hurling is at present.
I have used these facts to maybe shed some light on how Antrim are fairing in Division 1B. A one point loss in Wexford Park and toe to toe with Limerick for 60 mins.
What has Thurles in July got to do with this arguement? Both teams had to play in Ballycastle yesterday! And given this new brand of Antrim hurler, Antrim were probably at a greater disadvantage than Limerick yesterday! That's a very old arguement. About as old as league is league and championship is championship. Do you think Antrim will still only be a league side come championship this year?
"Many of their top players were missing" - How many were they missing from Kilmallock?

Limerick only pulled away when Antrim lost their midfield pairing who, to that point, were dominating their opposite numbers. Add that to the fact that at least two Antrim sure starters were on the line yesterday with injuries. Two men who would make a massive difference. When it came to the crunch - both panels were SLIGHTLY depleted yesterday.

I've got a bit carried away on this one, apologies. We've become too accustomed to progressive debates of late. I just wouldnt want to slip back into the dark ways - like the southern managers and their "keep up the good work up there" sh!te.

You're 100% right though about the championship. That is where we all want to see the big win!! I hope we do get one. But for now - if we win our last three games we'll definitely make the league knock out stages and not just be seen as survivalists!
Wouldn't that be a great basis to launch your championship campaign??

I don't know what you're getting worked up about here - you seem to be all hot and bothered because after 2 losses in 2 I am not getting out the saffron pon pons and air horn?
Anyone can take any results and read different things into them - is there cause for optimism - yes of course. Is there also cause for caution - yes of course.
I've seen many false dawns - and this doesn't even qualify as one yet since we haven't won a game yet.
Hell - your last point is even the same as mine!
Although the one about Southern Managers is just random.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 23, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 23, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
True - Aaron's shot was an important junction in the game. If there's one player you'd want for reliabillity its Aaron. Never lets you down. I'm sure he's well forgiven!

Genuine question re shots on goal - did Limerick have any??

Cant disagree there, Aarons one of the best defenders in Antrim. its a pity it wasnt shorty running through for the pass lol

They did drop a lot of ball in on top of chrissy but other than that nothing of note. Dowling did have a 21 yrd free which he blazed over the bar but other than that nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 23, 2015, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2015, 11:38:49 AM
Agreed DR they did seem to go up a gear when we got the goal
Tiredness did play a part in Limerick enjoying more space to take scores and maybe fatuige played its part on the sloppy fowling last  third
Add up our wides and shorts balls In the first half, the frees conceded in the second half and the loss of one of our most effective players
Limerick tanked us last year and got out with an 8 point win this year

I know no one likes to hear the progress word but they do seem to be running good teams closer
Maybe the conditions evened things up its hard to say
I stylish hard to mark ball wining forward woukd be some addition like what danny Sutcliffe is doing for Dublin
Wasn't at the game, long story, but I think my earlier point has been proven.  We are still only competing, possibly a little better this year than last due to fitness and conditioning, but we still lag behind.  We continue to lose mental focus, we tire and fatigue where other teams can step up another gear and rip out our jugular.  We just don't appear to have the killer instinct or desire to push on and finish a team off.  A little more worrying,even Ryan is saying "moral victories are not enough, we need points".  My greatest concern is the lads just dont seem to have the mental fabric to step up to the next level?  Along with a fitness and conditioning guru, maybe we need to consider a  mind guru?  Just mindful of the old adage "winning becomes a habit and breeds winning"  Can the same not be said that "losing breeds losing"?  ;) ;)  Our mindset has been conditioned to the annual negative impact of persistent defeats, hammering's, annihilations and our laboured and minimal progress.  Seems we are destined to the lower grade for some time to come, unless we knock the defeatist mentality into touch?? ;) ;)  Basically, to win we must know how to win?  ;) 

On the back of quite a lot of devastating defeats over the years the psychology of winning also needs addressing.  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 24, 2015, 09:18:22 AM
That's what i asked DR about and i'm conscious that we need to redress the mentality not just for the here and now - but for the u12s, 14s etc coming through.
You're right about the whole mentality thing.
The one thing that would give you a bit of heart Sham is that KR has addressed the physical and conditioning side of things - since that we are much more competitve. We are living with the big teams now.
If this is a work in progress then no doubt his next step will be to start working on the psychological side of things.
I'd be very excited about this era - i think there is a lot more to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 24, 2015, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 24, 2015, 09:18:22 AM
That's what i asked DR about and i'm conscious that we need to redress the mentality not just for the here and now - but for the u12s, 14s etc coming through.
You're right about the whole mentality thing.
The one thing that would give you a bit of heart Sham is that KR has addressed the physical and conditioning side of things - since that we are much more competitve. We are living with the big teams now.
If this is a work in progress then no doubt his next step will be to start working on the psychological side of things.
I'd be very excited about this era - i think there is a lot more to come.

Waterford away will let us know where we stand
They racked up some score against loais although loais had a man sent off
Again a single digit defeat would be considered a decent result
A tanking would negate any feel good factor a acquired so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 24, 2015, 09:40:20 AM
It'll be a good test alright. I'm hoping we get plenty of heart with the two home games!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Waterford away will be tougher than anything we have had this year. They destroyed Laois on sat night. They scored at ease against them.

As NAH says a single digit defeat would be a good result at this stage. If we can get away from the tankings against the top teams it will help us close the gap a lot quicker.

When players confidences take a battering it can work it way though a whole team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Waterford away will be tougher than anything we have had this year. They destroyed Laois on sat night. They scored at ease against them.

As NAH says a single digit defeat would be a good result at this stage. If we can get away from the tankings against the top teams it will help us close the gap a lot quicker.

When players confidences take a battering it can work it way though a whole team.
The relentless hammering's we have taken over the years, I would suggest have done considerable damage, not just to the players, but supporters, back room staff and county administrators as well.  All in all, nobody really expects us to win, we merely fulfil the fixture and make up the numbers.  GAA HQ and national/local media all so discard us.  >:(  Should such hammerings not effect the confidence levels of each and every player on a team and subs, I would question should they be there in the first place???  Heavy defeats in some respects would be a motivator to some, but others just cannot pick themselves up, dust themselves down and aspire or endeavour to improve. Persistent defeats are sure to have a demoralising impact, thats fact!  :(

But it is what we have all come to expect over the years.  Despite all the talk about coaching, underage structures, physicality, speed, tackling, conditioning, use of space,  out the 70 minutes, we have not even begun to address the psychology deficit?  ;)

I have been admonished for my radical and open views many times by siblings, club mates and friends, but I would love to see Antrim compete, beat and live with the big boys, that goes for football as well.  ;)  Remember, this has been happening for decades, not just this past few years under Ryan. Certainly the lads have improved, recent results/performances bear testament to that.  :D :D  Just mindful of psychological impact the perennial defeats decade upon decade have had????  ::) :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 24, 2015, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: All seeing I on February 24, 2015, 09:18:22 AM
That's what i asked DR about and i'm conscious that we need to redress the mentality not just for the here and now - but for the u12s, 14s etc coming through.
You're right about the whole mentality thing.
The one thing that would give you a bit of heart Sham is that KR has addressed the physical and conditioning side of things - since that we are much more competitve. We are living with the big teams now.
If this is a work in progress then no doubt his next step will be to start working on the psychological side of things.
I'd be very excited about this era - i think there is a lot more to come.

I'm pretty sure i've heard KR talk about the mental side of the game, coping with pressure and mistakes etc but it takes the players to be reflective and open to the concept of making changes within themselves. Rare enough breed from what I've seen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2015, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Waterford away will be tougher than anything we have had this year. They destroyed Laois on sat night. They scored at ease against them.

As NAH says a single digit defeat would be a good result at this stage. If we can get away from the tankings against the top teams it will help us close the gap a lot quicker.

When players confidences take a battering it can work it way though a whole team.
The relentless hammering's we have taken over the years, I would suggest have done considerable damage, not just to the players, but supporters, back room staff and county administrators as well.  All in all, nobody really expects us to win, we merely fulfil the fixture and make up the numbers.  GAA HQ and national/local media all so discard us.  >:(  Should such hammerings not effect the confidence levels of each and every player on a team and subs, I would question should they be there in the first place???  Heavy defeats in some respects would be a motivator to some, but others just cannot pick themselves up, dust themselves down and aspire or endeavour to improve. Persistent defeats are sure to have a demoralising impact, thats fact!  :(

But it is what we have all come to expect over the years.  Despite all the talk about coaching, underage structures, physicality, speed, tackling, conditioning, use of space,  out the 70 minutes, we have not even begun to address the psychology deficit?  ;)

I have been admonished for my radical and open views many times by siblings, club mates and friends, but I would love to see Antrim compete, beat and live with the big boys, that goes for football as well.  ;)  Remember, this has been happening for decades, not just this past few years under Ryan. Certainly the lads have improved, recent results/performances bear testament to that.  :D :D  Just mindful of psychological impact the perennial defeats decade upon decade have had????  ::) :-X

Ive been lucky like others here to see antrim compete at the highest level in the all ireland. Way back to 87 against KK in dundalk (granted i was very wee then! lol) but i was there in 89 v Offaly and Tipp, 90 v Cork, 91 agianst KK etc etc. We had the same teams then as we do now in fact we have more kids now playing hurling now that we did back then.

Then came the hammerings in 93 & 94 against KK and Limerick where shipped 6-41 and scored 1-20 in the 2 games. People in the game started to moan about a one side semi final for one team. Down won it in 95 and in 96 we had a decent game v Limerick and lost by 8/9 points. Down then won in 97 and got beat heavy by Tipp in the first ever quarter finals.

Since then we havent come close.

We just didnt get 'crap' over night at county level. This was a stage where my own club and the Dall were at their peaks had some outstanding players who would walk onto most teams. There was ample players to pick from.

The support for the county had declined big time for hurling and football and club players sick of hammering at minor and U21 all decided not to keep it on at county level.

It also doesnt help when the Ulster council has zero interest in hurling whatsoever. They pay it lip service, nothing more. Its football in Ulster and thats it. who cares about hurling when we have this great championship with good teams who bring great gates, tv money, sponsorship!

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did. we ddnt win it but christ it was serious progress. It gave belief back to players again. Years gone by we would have ended up losing to Limerick by 20 odd points or wexford by 20 as well. Now were putting it up to them.

The players deserve a lot of credit for the training they have put in over the winter. sure we wont win jack sh1t this season but we might just progress a bit farther than last season. If we do thats major progress.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 24, 2015, 01:24:59 PM
DR

Was there not a period a while back where Dinny Cahill has the County team more than competitive?

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
we did for while against wexford in the quarters where we were robbed and tipp where we put up a decent challenge but rhen followed the 05 embarrassment when he said brian corcoran was over the hill and we got dumped on. Following year Limerick & Galway dusted us by a cricket score in the qualifiers and we were back to square 1 again

Following year we were Christy Ring.

Wexford and Tipp were high points but we went badly down hill after that. We did have this great white hope of a minor team that ran limerick and Galway close but thats all it was. Since then its been hammering after hammering.

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ???? All Ireland U21 final slip your mind??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 24, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
we did for while against wexford in the quarters where we were robbed and tipp where we put up a decent challenge but rhen followed the 05 embarrassment when he said brian corcoran was over the hill and we got dumped on. Following year Limerick & Galway dusted us by a cricket score in the qualifiers and we were back to square 1 again

Following year we were Christy Ring.

Wexford and Tipp were high points but we went badly down hill after that. We did have this great white hope of a minor team that ran limerick and Galway close but thats all it was. Since then its been hammering after hammering.

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ???? All Ireland U21 final slip your mind??

No hadn't but in my mind there is only one All Ireland final  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 02:38:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
we did for while against wexford in the quarters where we were robbed and tipp where we put up a decent challenge but rhen followed the 05 embarrassment when he said brian corcoran was over the hill and we got dumped on. Following year Limerick & Galway dusted us by a cricket score in the qualifiers and we were back to square 1 again

Following year we were Christy Ring.

Wexford and Tipp were high points but we went badly down hill after that. We did have this great white hope of a minor team that ran limerick and Galway close but thats all it was. Since then its been hammering after hammering.

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ???? All Ireland U21 final slip your mind??
Just cant argue with that DR. ;)  Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking KR for one moment, progress has been made alright and we dont have a full deck to choose from. 

Conscious though, the U21's did indeed reach the All Ireland final and thats not to be sniffed at, but again came out the wrong side of a devastating thumping by Clare.  Just mindful of the impact on young lads at minor, U21 and Senior and how demoralising these defeats can have upon ones confidence? Onwards and upwards, as they say.  :D

I am still of the opinion all the same, our hurling development interests are best served by Managers/Coaches/Gurus outside of the county.  Dinny and KR are proof of that.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 24, 2015, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Waterford away will be tougher than anything we have had this year. They destroyed Laois on sat night. They scored at ease against them.

As NAH says a single digit defeat would be a good result at this stage. If we can get away from the tankings against the top teams it will help us close the gap a lot quicker.

When players confidences take a battering it can work it way though a whole team.
The relentless hammering's we have taken over the years, I would suggest have done considerable damage, not just to the players, but supporters, back room staff and county administrators as well.  All in all, nobody really expects us to win, we merely fulfil the fixture and make up the numbers.  GAA HQ and national/local media all so discard us.  >:(  Should such hammerings not effect the confidence levels of each and every player on a team and subs, I would question should they be there in the first place???  Heavy defeats in some respects would be a motivator to some, but others just cannot pick themselves up, dust themselves down and aspire or endeavour to improve. Persistent defeats are sure to have a demoralising impact, thats fact!  :(

But it is what we have all come to expect over the years.  Despite all the talk about coaching, underage structures, physicality, speed, tackling, conditioning, use of space,  out the 70 minutes, we have not even begun to address the psychology deficit?  ;)

I have been admonished for my radical and open views many times by siblings, club mates and friends, but I would love to see Antrim compete, beat and live with the big boys, that goes for football as well.  ;)  Remember, this has been happening for decades, not just this past few years under Ryan. Certainly the lads have improved, recent results/performances bear testament to that.  :D :D  Just mindful of psychological impact the perennial defeats decade upon decade have had????  ::) :-X

Ive been lucky like others here to see antrim compete at the highest level in the all ireland. Way back to 87 against KK in dundalk (granted i was very wee then! lol) but i was there in 89 v Offaly and Tipp, 90 v Cork, 91 agianst KK etc etc. We had the same teams then as we do now in fact we have more kids now playing hurling now that we did back then.

Then came the hammerings in 93 & 94 against KK and Limerick where shipped 6-41 and scored 1-20 in the 2 games. People in the game started to moan about a one side semi final for one team. Down won it in 95 and in 96 we had a decent game v Limerick and lost by 8/9 points. Down then won in 97 and got beat heavy by Tipp in the first ever quarter finals.

Since then we havent come close.

We just didnt get 'crap' over night at county level. This was a stage where my own club and the Dall were at their peaks had some outstanding players who would walk onto most teams. There was ample players to pick from.

The support for the county had declined big time for hurling and football and club players sick of hammering at minor and U21 all decided not to keep it on at county level.

It also doesnt help when the Ulster council has zero interest in hurling whatsoever. They pay it lip service, nothing more. Its football in Ulster and thats it. who cares about hurling when we have this great championship with good teams who bring great gates, tv money, sponsorship!

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did. we ddnt win it but christ it was serious progress. It gave belief back to players again. Years gone by we would have ended up losing to Limerick by 20 odd points or wexford by 20 as well. Now were putting it up to them.

The players deserve a lot of credit for the training they have put in over the winter. sure we wont win jack sh1t this season but we might just progress a bit farther than last season. If we do thats major progress.

;) Class! Well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2015, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 02:38:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
we did for while against wexford in the quarters where we were robbed and tipp where we put up a decent challenge but rhen followed the 05 embarrassment when he said brian corcoran was over the hill and we got dumped on. Following year Limerick & Galway dusted us by a cricket score in the qualifiers and we were back to square 1 again

Following year we were Christy Ring.

Wexford and Tipp were high points but we went badly down hill after that. We did have this great white hope of a minor team that ran limerick and Galway close but thats all it was. Since then its been hammering after hammering.

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ???? All Ireland U21 final slip your mind??
Just cant argue with that DR. ;)  Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking KR for one moment, progress has been made alright and we dont have a full deck to choose from. 

Conscious though, the U21's did indeed reach the All Ireland final and thats not to be sniffed at, but again came out the wrong side of a devastating thumping by Clare.  Just mindful of the impact on young lads at minor, U21 and Senior and how demoralising these defeats can have upon ones confidence? Onwards and upwards, as they say.  :D

I am still of the opinion all the same, our hurling development interests are best served by Managers/Coaches/Gurus outside of the county.  Dinny and KR are proof of that.  ;)

Clare are an unreal machine at U21 level. no one has touched them nor come close to them. Had we got to the final against someone who wasnt as unbeatable as them would we have had a chance? maybe, but i think we were all just happy just to be there.

Now we have been there we need to wanting more than just being there.

Watching the game on sunday i said to my aul boy, would it not be interesting to have a few of them young Rossa lads to throw on for 15-20mins to see how they would cope in that?

As much as i like to see my own club win i also like to see a competitive championship and having strong teams from Belfast are a necessity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 24, 2015, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on February 24, 2015, 02:38:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
we did for while against wexford in the quarters where we were robbed and tipp where we put up a decent challenge but rhen followed the 05 embarrassment when he said brian corcoran was over the hill and we got dumped on. Following year Limerick & Galway dusted us by a cricket score in the qualifiers and we were back to square 1 again

Following year we were Christy Ring.

Wexford and Tipp were high points but we went badly down hill after that. We did have this great white hope of a minor team that ran limerick and Galway close but thats all it was. Since then its been hammering after hammering.

I admire KR for what hes done this past 2 years. He said he would get antrim in an all ireland final and he did ???? All Ireland U21 final slip your mind??
Just cant argue with that DR. ;)  Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking KR for one moment, progress has been made alright and we dont have a full deck to choose from. 

Conscious though, the U21's did indeed reach the All Ireland final and thats not to be sniffed at, but again came out the wrong side of a devastating thumping by Clare.  Just mindful of the impact on young lads at minor, U21 and Senior and how demoralising these defeats can have upon ones confidence? Onwards and upwards, as they say.  :D

I am still of the opinion all the same, our hurling development interests are best served by Managers/Coaches/Gurus outside of the county.  Dinny and KR are proof of that.  ;)

Two things,

Kevin Ryan was shocked at getting there and even made a comment after beating Wexford about the lack of collective training they had. At the time I pointed out that a lot of these lads would be playing club hurling with their clubs at senior level and it wasn't as if they were standing with their thumbs up their holes for the summer.
IMO hard, competitive club hurling will bring on Antrim the county team, a lot more than 25 boys training their balls off three, four nights a week on their own.

Secondly,
That Clare team gave more than Antrim a thumping on their way to that AI. They stuffed Cork and Tipp in Munster, Galway put on a bit of a show, but the result was never in doubt. The only game they got was against Waterford in the first round. There was no shame in that defeat IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 24, 2015, 08:31:20 PM
Sometimes a manager can go into a club or a county team, and do his stuff really well- without actually winning anything. In the case of KR, he seems to have held the respect of the vast majority of players and supporters that I have talked to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 25, 2015, 07:51:57 AM
I see the master fixture list of dates for all Antrim competitions is up on the home page of the county website. Senior hurling leagues start on Easter Sunday 5th April at 6pm. Not long now 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 25, 2015, 08:39:04 AM
Happy days. Something to look forward to and will make that weekend even more enjoyable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on February 25, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
What's the feeling about taking on Laois on sunday week its a massive game for both counties who are on a the same sort of level!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 25, 2015, 12:12:46 PM
We're going to win. We beat you in Portlaoise last year and we've kicked on this year. We are stronger at the back and up front than last year. Is Plunkett still in charge?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2015, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 25, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
What's the feeling about taking on Laois on sunday week its a massive game for both counties who are on a the same sort of level!

I see it as a 50/50 game, you guys are like ourselves we desperately need some points and have to target  bottom table teams
You where matching Waterford to you went a man down so antrim will be treating  laois with same respect as wexford or Limerick
Cheddar will have your lads pumped up for some points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2015, 12:37:23 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 25, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
What's the feeling about taking on Laois on sunday week its a massive game for both counties who are on a the same sort of level!

A 50/50 game in Portlaiose - a home banker for us!
As it sits should be fiercely competitive given what's at stake but I just think we have the edge at the moment. If initial results are anything to go by we should be taking the 2points and looking to double them against Offaly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
honestly i would be expecting us to win. had it been in laois i would of said it was 50/50.

Both teams need the points but in the 2 games so far this season Antrim would be marginally better in terms of current form. Last weekend hammering to Waterford will have not done them any favours at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 25, 2015, 09:25:54 PM
Hoganstand.com have finally went mobile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: All seeing I on February 26, 2015, 01:09:55 PM
BTD; DR and Hurlingstick are right.
2015 Antrim are in a better place than previous yrs. It'll be a tough ol match. I'd fancy us to pull away though - and the same against Offally
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 26, 2015, 02:03:26 PM
Both Antrim & Laois would have put this game down as a banker, so who knows. Offaly I'm not so sure, another Team we always fancy our chances against but never quite goes to plan. Agree that KR has put some pride back in the yellow Jersey though. Start to compete and the luck will come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
I made a comment before that we have no right to beat these teams and I would still say the same.

I would hope we beat Laois and Offaly and think we can however both games will be tight and could go either way. Laois and Offaly will also think they can beat us too. Offaly have gone backwards a lot from where they used to be but they still have some fine hurlers and the current Laois manager has them going well. People talk about waterford hammering Laois but they could do the same to us down there so I don't think we have any reason yet to make that put Laois behind us.

They're two games we need to win though and they will ask the right questions of Ryan and panel. Hopefully we'll get the right answers...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
i dont think we have a right to be beating these teams either tbh. I just think on current form of the pair we are in a better place going into this game than they will be.

Had it been away from home i would of put it at 50/50 but being at home we have a much better chance of winning it. Last time we met in the championship we went to laois and won so we should be winning this game if we are serious about pushing on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 26, 2015, 07:30:24 PM
Just heard of death of Sean McNally, a St. Malachy's man & ex Chairman of the South Antrim Board, during the 1970s. Funeral St. Mary's Greencastle [Newtownabbey] on Saturday @ 10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2015, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 26, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
i dont think we have a right to be beating these teams either tbh. I just think on current form of the pair we are in a better place going into this game than they will be.

Had it been away from home i would of put it at 50/50 but being at home we have a much better chance of winning it. Last time we met in the championship we went to laois and won so we should be winning this game if we are serious about pushing on.

Objectively speaking current form is played two lost two though...

If we are serious about pushing on we need to win these two yes. Beating a fastly improving laois in laois was our best result under ryan i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 26, 2015, 08:30:05 PM
Ofally in the playoffs for me was the bigger game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
That's that playoff game that ended up meaning nothing.  if things had been done right. Offaly would be down and Kerry would be coming up to Ballycastle in a few weeks time. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 27, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
That's right - doesn't seem fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 27, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
same with us against carlow that time. we should of been down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 27, 2015, 01:59:44 PM
Well so be it.  If we have to go down. But I thought that was some joke. Watched Kerry all year last year and as much as I believe we should be where we are. They'd give antrim all they want. Won all in front of them last year. Deserved a chance to play 1B to test themselves at the next level.  It's pretty much ourselves offaly and Laois that can get beat all year. Get beat in relegation playoff and still stay up by defeating the team who deserves promoted. Not overly fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 27, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
i agree SG. The system is there to protect the teams from going down. Yet another one of the gaas great ways of promoting hurling at the lower levels - keep them down there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 27, 2015, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 27, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
i agree SG. The system is there to protect the teams from going down. Yet another one of the gaas great ways of promoting hurling at the lower levels - keep them down there!

Yes indeed tinkering with leagues to suit the bigger teams - sounds familiar 😜
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on February 28, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Sure 1B keeps us under the radar until we keep improving and get our house in order.  ;) No point in showing the big boys what wee have in store going forward. :D

Totally agree about Kerry, they would more than hold their own in 1B, question is, who takes the drop????   We are one of three possible candidates. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 01, 2015, 09:43:07 AM
I hear hurling leagues start on Easter Sunday.
Thoughts?
Any idea on how teams are at this stage are most doing physical work or challenge games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
Have they all got managers yet :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 01, 2015, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
Have they all got managers yet :o

Still no resolution MR2?
No shortage of possible names I suspect they are wary of the only way being down after last year?
Big ball for once a good thing to keep the fitness and competitiveness until a bainisteor is found.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 01, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
Nice wee win the day to get the year up and running.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 01, 2015, 10:19:40 PM
What was the score? Did Bcastle and Dunloy play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 02, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
no ballycastle called it off, they couldnt field.

must be playing their cards close to their chest for the league lol also i was glad as it was bloody Baltic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 02, 2015, 10:42:50 AM
I'm sure Dunloy were happy enough! Couldn't field? Or scared to play without county players? They've a big enough squad I'm sure they could've managed to scrape 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 02, 2015, 11:11:59 AM
yeah they phoned to say they couldnt field. Odd really when you consider its only a pre-season tournament and thy could of sent any sort of team out to give boys a go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2015, 11:52:47 AM
Stag/Wedding maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2015, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 01, 2015, 10:19:40 PM
What was the score? Did Bcastle and Dunloy play?
0-16 to 0-08
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 02, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2015, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 01, 2015, 10:19:40 PM
What was the score? Did Bcastle and Dunloy play?
0-16 to 0-08

what sort of match was it? i had intended on going to it but it was too cold, plus i was suffering a bit from the night before!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 02, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 02, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 02, 2015, 03:28:02 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 01, 2015, 10:19:40 PM
What was the score? Did Bcastle and Dunloy play?
0-16 to 0-08

what sort of match was it? i had intended on going to it but it was too cold, plus i was suffering a bit from the night before!

You weren't at a stag night in Ballycastle by any chance?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 02, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
haha i could of been for all i know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
I believe all is not well in the black and Amber camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 02, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
I believe all is not well in the black and Amber camp.

How come? You'd think they'd be lookin forward to the new season with a new man in. Sure they've won nothing for near 30 years the only way is up for them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 02, 2015, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
I believe all is not well in the black and Amber camp.
Sure if we have learned anything on here, you shoulnae believe all ya hear. :) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 02, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
I believe all is not well in the black and Amber camp.

Absolute nonsense. Next!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 02, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 02, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 02, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Must be something up - can't imgaine first match under a new manager in Humpy would be failing to get 15 players together.
I believe all is not well in the black and Amber camp.

Absolute nonsense. Next!
I beg to differ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 02, 2015, 10:45:39 PM
To be fair has it ever been good in the ballycastle camp? A few times I've heard about really poor attendances at trainings even in the run up to championship when normally ur seeing players who haven't been there since the start of feb training like f&@! thinkin they should start. And then come championship they just roll over!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 03, 2015, 09:28:04 AM
The great enigma of Ballycastle hurling eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 03, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
The Town bashing now, well that makes a change I suppose. ;)
Oh to be from Dunloy or Cushendall where everything is just fcukin perfect!  :o ??? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 03, 2015, 10:31:13 AM
No bashing. I'd be friendly with a good few town hurlers. Just saying. It isn't all rosy. What club hasnt got issues in house at some stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 03, 2015, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 03, 2015, 10:31:13 AM
No bashing. I'd be friendly with a good few town hurlers. Just saying. It isn't all rosy. What club hasnt got issues in house at some stage.
100% SG, and lets all just remember that!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 03, 2015, 11:25:41 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 03, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
The Town bashing now, well that makes a change I suppose. ;)
Oh to be from Dunloy or Cushendall where everything is just fcukin perfect!  :o ???

Hardly bashing them and to be perfectly honest a club/ town the size of Ballycastle and to not be competitive is a bit of a disgrace.

Add this to the fact that they either dont want to play a pre season tournament (in which case why enter) or that they couldnt get a team. To me neither of these two are a good sign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 03, 2015, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 03, 2015, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 03, 2015, 10:31:13 AM
No bashing. I'd be friendly with a good few town hurlers. Just saying. It isn't all rosy. What club hasnt got issues in house at some stage.
100% SG, and lets all just remember that!  ;)
maybe I got you wrong SM, your maybe a Ballycastle man and not a Belfast man at all!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 03, 2015, 12:13:54 PM
They want to play the game on sat at 6pm now as far i heard last night. dont quote me on that tho!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 03, 2015, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 03, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
The Town bashing now, well that makes a change I suppose. ;)
Oh to be from Dunloy or Cushendall where everything is just fcukin perfect!  :o ???

I never knew SG was a Dunloadian
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 03, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
With the way the weather has been a football/hurling double header is going to ask big questions off Ballycastle's surface on Sunday (as it would most grounds)!!! With the hurling being the second game it could be a nightmare!!! Wish they'd move the football!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 03, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
The dates or fixtures??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 03, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
The dates or fixtures??

Both. They previously only had the dates up but now everybody actually knows who they're playin on Easter sunday. Players won't get to enjoy their dinner that day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 03, 2015, 10:13:31 PM
I can only see Division 2 there - division 1?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 03, 2015, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 03, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
The dates or fixtures??

Both. They previously only had the dates up but now everybody actually knows who they're playin on Easter sunday. Players won't get to enjoy their dinner that day!

The county website is only showing division 2 and 3 so far. No division one showing yet.

BTW, our McAuley cup match V Dunloy is at 11.45am on Sunday in Armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 04, 2015, 01:34:21 PM
no division 1 fixtures up yet, all the rest are.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
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Quote from: Bonamargy on March 03, 2015, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 03, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
The dates or fixtures??

Both. They previously only had the dates up but now everybody actually knows who they're playin on Easter sunday. Players won't get to enjoy their dinner that day!

The county website is only showing division 2 and 3 so far. No division one showing yet.

BTW, our McAuley cup match V Dunloy is at 11.45am on Sunday in Armoy
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Bit of progress for the town. Finding 15 players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 04, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
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Quote from: Bonamargy on March 03, 2015, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 03, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 03, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Fixtures finally up on county website
The dates or fixtures??

Both. They previously only had the dates up but now everybody actually knows who they're playin on Easter sunday. Players won't get to enjoy their dinner that day!

The county website is only showing division 2 and 3 so far. No division one showing yet.

BTW, our McAuley cup match V Dunloy is at 11.45am on Sunday in Armoy
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Bit of progress for the town. Finding 15 players.

Aye Humpy is coming out of retirement to make up the 15. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Bonamargy, hurling moved to Armoy........ Oh dear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Why is the football down for ballycastle? Is Creggan or ahoghill not available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on March 04, 2015, 06:43:07 PM
It was to be a double header, hurling in Armoy but not sure where the football will be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Will Armoy be able to hold all the supporters?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 04, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Will Armoy be able to hold all the supporters?  :-\

I think it'd manage ok. They've a good slope at one side of the pitch and if the football is elsewhere they'll be fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 04, 2015, 07:59:35 PM
(https://chronicallyirritated.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/sarcasm.jpg?w=620)

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 08:21:49 PM
Ha ha skull... I think the face (if not the comment) was obvious
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 04, 2015, 07:59:35 PM
(https://chronicallyirritated.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/sarcasm.jpg?w=620)

;D
Very good! Never saw that wee face just thot it was a genuine question! Think Armoy would be a better venue anyway never liked ballycastle too windy even on the  best of days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 10:08:42 PM
Oh Christ WTF.... Be careful. Bonamargy is very sensitive about this subject.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 10:08:42 PM
Oh Christ WTF.... Be careful. Bonamargy is very sensitive about this subject.

Well it's true! Everything else is spot on good pitch/plenty of parking etc but it's always a game of 2 halves with the strong wind just ruins it imo. Don't like the catch nets either I've just remembered!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Wonder whats the history of this old pic? At a guess late 70's and looks like a NA Select

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/16098735323_29264e5f33_c.jpg)

Care to fill in the blanks?

Left to Right Back row
1
2
3 Willie Richmond   Dunloy
4 Rab  Johnny Coyles    Loughgiel
5 Seamus Richmond  Loughgiel
6
7
8

Left to Right Front Row
1
2
3
4 Brendan McGarry   Loughgiel
5 Aidan McCamphill   Dunloy
6
7
8 Chris Elliott  Dunloy ...forgot to include him earlier
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 05, 2015, 09:19:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Wonder whats the history of this old pic? At a guess late 70's and looks like a NA Select

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/16098735323_29264e5f33_c.jpg)

Care to fill in the blanks?

Left to Right Back row
1
2
3 Willie Richmond
4 Rab  Coyles - Johnny Coyle (L'giel)
5 Seamus Richmond
6
7
8

Left to Right Front Row
1 Randall McDonnell
2 Socks = C'dall player?
3 Kieran Dempsey ??
4 Brendan McGarry
5 Aidan McCamphill
6
7
8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:23:54 AM
Johnny of course ...got mixed up in the names
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
Venue Carey or Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 05, 2015, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Bonamargy, hurling moved to Armoy........ Oh dear

Glad to hear it. Pitches are soaking with all the rain recently. Playing on them Wouldnt be wise and would only cause long term damage. Can't see Antrim forking out to pay for the repair work on the pitches. See you up in Armoy 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 05, 2015, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 05, 2015, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 04, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Bonamargy, hurling moved to Armoy........ Oh dear

Glad to hear it. Pitches are soaking with all the rain recently. Playing on them Wouldnt be wise and would only cause long term damage. Can't see Antrim forking out to pay for the repair work on the pitches. See you up in Armoy 😉

they cant afford to finish one set of grounds let alone start another one! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
Venue Carey or Armoy?

Venue is Glenravel. Late 70s early 80s.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 05, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 04, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Why is the football down for ballycastle? Is Creggan or ahoghill not available?
Toome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2015, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Wonder whats the history of this old pic? At a guess late 70's and looks like a NA Select

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/16098735323_29264e5f33_c.jpg)

Care to fill in the blanks?

Left to Right Back row
1
2
3 Willie Richmond   Dunloy
4 Rab  Johnny Coyles    Loughgiel
5 Seamus Richmond  Loughgiel
6
7
8 Niall Wheeler Glenariffe

Left to Right Front Row
1
2
3
4 Brendan McGarry   Loughgiel
5 Aidan McCamphill   Dunloy
6
7
8 Chris Elliott  Dunloy ...forgot to include him earlier
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 05, 2015, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2015, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Wonder whats the history of this old pic? At a guess late 70's and looks like a NA Select

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/16098735323_29264e5f33_c.jpg)

Care to fill in the blanks?

Left to Right Back row
1
2
3 Willie Richmond   Dunloy
4 Rab  Johnny Coyles    Loughgiel
5 Seamus Richmond  Loughgiel
6
7
8 Niall Wheeler Glenariffe

Left to Right Front Row
1
2
3 Ciaran Dempsey Cushendall
4 Brendan McGarry   Loughgiel
5 Aidan McCamphill   Dunloy
6
7
8 Chris Elliott  Dunloy ...forgot to include him earlier


Ciaran Dempsey Cushendall is No 3 in bottom row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 05, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Gonna take a guess and say
Top row
1 Sean 'Claude' Reynolds Dunloy
2 Joe 'Brass' Dixon Dunloy

look like green and gold socks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 05, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
Can I show my big smoke ignorance and ask why there would be a NA select and who they would play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 05, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
Can I show my big smoke ignorance and ask why there would be a NA select and who they would play?

It's just another one of those conspiracies you talk about against the big bad city ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2015, 12:06:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 05, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
Can I show my big smoke ignorance and ask why there would be a NA select and who they would play?

It's just another one of those conspiracies you talk about against the big bad city ;D

We did have a south Antrim select remember?? Brian og's ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2015, 07:47:59 AM
Looks like Randall McDonnell front left.

Edit: I see Fairhead already got that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 08:53:43 AM
Wouldn't be a young Brian Donnelly number 7 back row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: frostbit on March 06, 2015, 09:23:27 AM
Someone wrote the following on the county guestbook. I'm not sure if its a typo on the admin's behalf (either way it is anyway) but he seems to write that 'non' will be promoted from Div 2 at the end of the 2015 league.  Does he mean 'none' or 'one'?

Name : player 05 March 2015
how many teams go up and down this year in the senior hurling league

As a result of a motion at last years convention the Division 1 Hurling League will be for 8 teams in 2016. Two teams will be relegated to Division 2 and non promoted to Division 1 from Division 2 at the end of the 2015 league.

Well if only two are going down I'd suggest there will be none promoted to Div 1.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 05, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 05, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
Can I show my big smoke ignorance and ask why there would be a NA select and who they would play?

It's just another one of those conspiracies you talk about against the big bad city ;D

;D ;)
Genuine question this time!

Is it some sort of exhibition game against another select team or like a NA Awards thing?
It's died out I take it?
Would be an interesting idea for charity games etc!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: frostbit on March 06, 2015, 09:23:27 AM
Someone wrote the following on the county guestbook. I'm not sure if its a typo on the admin's behalf (either way it is anyway) but he seems to write that 'non' will be promoted from Div 2 at the end of the 2015 league.  Does he mean 'none' or 'one'?

Name : player 05 March 2015
how many teams go up and down this year in the senior hurling league

As a result of a motion at last years convention the Division 1 Hurling League will be for 8 teams in 2016. Two teams will be relegated to Division 2 and non promoted to Division 1 from Division 2 at the end of the 2015 league.

Well if only two are going down I'd suggest there will be none promoted to Div 1.....

What happened to three going down?
And what is the point in a league where nonbody gets promoted!
Ohhhh - as long as the top 3 teams are happy who cares!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: redsetanta on March 06, 2015, 10:19:57 AM
How are ye boys shaping up for Sunday.Serious trip up to North Antrim for the game although venue change makes the journey about 20 minutes shorter! A nine o'clock start Sunday morning.
A must win game for both teams. Laois suffering a bit with confidence and Antrim is never an easy place to get a positive result. No team from Cheddar yet however ye have named your starting 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 06, 2015, 10:19:57 AM
How are ye boys shaping up for Sunday.Serious trip up to North Antrim for the game although venue change makes the journey about 20 minutes shorter! A nine o'clock start Sunday morning.
A must win game for both teams. Laois suffering a bit with confidence and Antrim is never an easy place to get a positive result. No team from Cheddar yet however ye have named your starting 15.

1 C.O' Connell Loughgiel
2 R.McCambridge Cushendall
3 N.McAuley Ballycastle
4 A.Graffin Cushendall
5 S.McCrory St.Johns
6 C.McKinley Dunloy
7 M.Bradley St.Johns
8 N.McManus Cushendall
9 C.Johnston St.Johns
10 E.Campbell Cushendall
11 D.McKernan Sarsfields
12 P.Shields Dunloy
13 PJ.O'Connell Clooney Gaels
14 N.McKenna Sarsfields
15 C.Clarke Ballycastle
16 S.McToal Oisins
17 T.O'Ciarain St Galls
18 T.McCann Creggan
19 O.McFadden Loughgiel
20 J.McGreevy St.Galls
21 C.McCann Creggan
22 C.Carson Cushendall
23 M.Donnelly Ballycastle
24 D.Hamill Shane O Neills
25 C.Johnston St.Johns
26 S.McNaughton Cushendall


Hopefully a win for us - and I can't see past it!
Home advanatge massive and wouldnt be surprised if our boys have a session at Armoy on Saturday - it's a nice place to hurl can be a new pitch can be tricky to get your surroundings.
Antrim's to lose for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?

Loughgiel have the same representaion on our county squad as Sarsfields and Creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 06, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?

Away on a stag - but could be wrong so open to correction.

Im a big fan of Eddie and was very surprised when he got dropped for the Limerick game, but when he came on he was very ineffective and wasn't in the game at all.

As for the Old Pic, i think that may be PJ McNaughton beside Randall McDonnell and Kieran Dempsey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Thanks Bonamargy.

So the current 10 division 1 teams will become 8.

Is that 2 down, none up.
Or 3 down, and 1 up.

Anyone know?

I would imagine Clooney and St Galls will be hard pushed to regain their status - perhaps the 2 relegated teams.
If it's three to go down St Johns and Rossa might get worried.
Maybe the Ulster Champions also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?

Motion 4 was approved and Motion 5 declined
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Jesus, our 6 forwards as a unit look seriously average. 2 Sarsfields, 1 Clooney, 1, Dunloy, 1 Ballycastle and 1 Cushendall. My optimism for the season has taken a serious dive!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 06, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?

Motion 4 was approved and Motion 5 declined

Correct me if I'm wrong but my simple view is that teams basically cascade down from Div 1 at end of this season and no promotions anywhere?

Div1: 10 becomes 8, 2 down, none up
Div2: 10 + 2 down from div 1. 4 have to go down to make it 8 teams.
Div3: 10 + 4 down from div 2. 6 have to go down to make 8 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 06, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Jesus, our 6 forwards as a unit look seriously average. 2 Sarsfields, 1 Clooney, 1, Dunloy, 1 Ballycastle and 1 Cushendall. My optimism for the season has taken a serious dive!

i would happliy take the PJ in a dunloy shirt! This is the reality of where we are, we dont have these great forwards anymore in the county. who else could we have thats not there already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
I'd have two more from your club, 2 from Loughiel and 1 from Ballycastle. But the reality of it is that they're not there for various reasons. Back to the point in question. With those 6 forwards we will not trouble any of the big teams later in the season. Bad times!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 06, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?

Motion 4 was approved and Motion 5 declined

Correct me if I'm wrong but my simple view is that teams basically cascade down from Div 1 at end of this season and no promotions anywhere?

Div1: 10 becomes 8, 2 down, none up
Div2: 10 + 2 down from div 1. 4 have to go down to make it 8 teams.
Div3: 10 + 4 down from div 2. 6 have to go down to make 8 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem is we just don't know if there is promotion or not. CCC need to clarify their position before the season starts, so that all teams know whether there is promotion from all divisions. If there is one team promotion from all leagues, then 3 will be relegated from div 1, 5 will be relegated from div 2, 7 will be relegated from div 3. If there is no promotion then there will be one less team relegated from each league. In my opinion leage winners should get automatic promotion as they have earned it.

One thing is for sure, for a change there won't be too many meaningless league games near the end of this season, with mid table teams fighting to avoid relegation. Could be hectic lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 06, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?

Motion 4 was approved and Motion 5 declined

Correct me if I'm wrong but my simple view is that teams basically cascade down from Div 1 at end of this season and no promotions anywhere?

Div1: 10 becomes 8, 2 down, none up
Div2: 10 + 2 down from div 1. 4 have to go down to make it 8 teams.
Div3: 10 + 4 down from div 2. 6 have to go down to make 8 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem is we just don't know if there is promotion or not. CCC need to clarify their position before the season starts, so that all teams know whether there is promotion from all divisions. If there is one team promotion from all leagues, then 3 will be relegated from div 1, 5 will be relegated from div 2, 7 will be relegated from div 3. If there is no promotion then there will be one less team relegated from each league. In my opinion leage winners should get automatic promotion as they have earned it.

One thing is for sure, for a change there won't be too many meaningless league games near the end of this season, with mid table teams fighting to avoid relegation. Could be hectic lol

The top and middle of Div2 will be pretty meaningless all the same!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 01:49:45 PM
Your club will be fine Bonamargy. As you say clubs need to know now what they can expect with regards to promotion (or not). It would be a half decent club going into division 3 were the biggest outcry could lie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 06, 2015, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 06, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
See motion 4 from county convention, which was approved regarding the makeup of leagues at the end of 2015 season. All divisions revert to 8 team leagues at the end of this season with div 4 having the overspill.

I have attached the link to the webpage. I tried to screenshot it to post here but don't know how to post it here. Try the link below and some of you tech wizards can post a screenshot.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/details/?id=4291

Motion 4
At the end of the 2015 season the divisions 1,2,3 & 4 of the Antrim Hurling leagues revert back to 8 team leagues playing home and away with 2 up and 2 down each year
Antrim CCC

Motion 5
That the Senior and senior reserve hurling leagues become an 8 team format. This would be a 2 way league in 2017 with 2 up and 2 down. To achieve this in both 2015 and 2016 - 2 teams would be relegated to Div 2 but only 1 team would be promoted from Div 2
Ruairi Og

Motion 4 and Motion 5 both have the same end goal, motion 4 gives no idea as to how this it be achieved which is strange for the CCC to do.
At least the Dall version staggers the changes over two years and still allows for promotion and relegation.

I presume Motion 4 was carried and Motion 5 withdrawn?

Motion 4 was approved and Motion 5 declined

Correct me if I'm wrong but my simple view is that teams basically cascade down from Div 1 at end of this season and no promotions anywhere?

Div1: 10 becomes 8, 2 down, none up
Div2: 10 + 2 down from div 1. 4 have to go down to make it 8 teams.
Div3: 10 + 4 down from div 2. 6 have to go down to make 8 teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem is we just don't know if there is promotion or not. CCC need to clarify their position before the season starts, so that all teams know whether there is promotion from all divisions. If there is one team promotion from all leagues, then 3 will be relegated from div 1, 5 will be relegated from div 2, 7 will be relegated from div 3. If there is no promotion then there will be one less team relegated from each league. In my opinion leage winners should get automatic promotion as they have earned it.

One thing is for sure, for a change there won't be too many meaningless league games near the end of this season, with mid table teams fighting to avoid relegation. Could be hectic lol

The top and middle of Div2 will be pretty meaningless all the same!

The top and middle of Division one maybe, but if five are relegated from division two I can't see too many points separating second place from the relegation spot in sixth. I reckon Ballygalget will win division two handy enough, but after that it is the toss of a coin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 02:30:10 PM
It would not look good for Naomh Pól, Gort Na Mona and Armoy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 06, 2015, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 01:49:45 PM
Your club will be fine Bonamargy. As you say clubs need to know now what they can expect with regards to promotion (or not). It would be a half decent club going into division 3 were the biggest outcry could lie.

I think so too and hope you are correct lol. Only fair if we all know what we are playing for in all four leagues. Hurts divisions 2,3 and 4 more than division 1, but we all need to know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2015, 02:35:55 PM
Agreed!! Division 1 will be least effected. All those clubs losing out on being promoted and those being relegated above the norm will feel seriously aggrieved!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 06, 2015, 05:06:36 PM
£13 in on sunday for that previous double header now its £13 for a single game in armoy and £13 if you go to the football before hand making it £26

makes no sense at all. maybe thats me just being a tight arse lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 06, 2015, 06:23:47 PM
So we don't know how many go up & down?
Is that not just an incredible situation to be in!
I despair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html

Boys have a read at this. It would make my recent criticisms of our attacking options look a bit foolish. Kevin Ryan knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html

Boys have a read at this. It would make my recent criticisms of our attacking options look a bit foolish. Kevin Ryan knows what he's doing.
Is it just me, for the life of me I cant see the relevance here and how it relates to the Antrim Hurling team and Kevin Ryan??  ;)  I think your on the wrong page fella.  ::) ???  Ffs,  cant make the match tomorrow, have to work.  £13.00 quid is a bit steep all the same.  :-[ :-[  Jeasus and I am still being watched, and me a good boy and nice fella to boot!  Fs, thought my probation would be over at this stage! Ah well.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Megaman on March 06, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?

Away on a stag - but could be wrong so open to correction.

Im a big fan of Eddie and was very surprised when he got dropped for the Limerick game, but when he came on he was very ineffective and wasn't in the game at all.

As for the Old Pic, i think that may be PJ McNaughton beside Randall McDonnell and Kieran Dempsey.
Eddie isn't away on a stag. He is away from the panel however. He and Ryan didn't see eye to eye on certain aspects of training. Apparently it's all physical training and no actual hurling training. Good news for us.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 07, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html

Boys have a read at this. It would make my recent criticisms of our attacking options look a bit foolish. Kevin Ryan knows what he's doing.
Is it just me, for the life of me I cant see the relevance here and how it relates to the Antrim Hurling team and Kevin Ryan??  ;)  I think your on the wrong page fella.  ::) ???  Ffs,  cant make the match tomorrow, have to work.  £13.00 quid is a bit steep all the same.  :-[ :-[  Jeasus and I am still being watched, and me a good boy and nice fella to boot!  Fs, thought my probation would be over at this stage! Ah well.  >:(

It's just you. It's glaringly obvious. Cork have just scored 34 points v a good Dublin team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Megaman on March 06, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?

Away on a stag - but could be wrong so open to correction.

Im a big fan of Eddie and was very surprised when he got dropped for the Limerick game, but when he came on he was very ineffective and wasn't in the game at all.



As for the Old Pic, i think that may be PJ McNaughton beside Randall McDonnell and Kieran Dempsey.
Eddie isn't away on a stag. He is away from the panel however. He and Ryan didn't see eye to eye on certain aspects of training. Apparently it's all physical training and no actual hurling training. Good news for us.  ;)
It's not good for you at all. It's very, very bad. It once again highlights your lack of commitment for the greater good. Roll on the moaning!!!..... I'll save you the effort...... Yes it's all about Loughiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Megaman on March 06, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 06, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Looking forward to the game on hopefully what should be a better surface.

No Eddie McCloskey. Has he left the panel?

Away on a stag - but could be wrong so open to correction.

Im a big fan of Eddie and was very surprised when he got dropped for the Limerick game, but when he came on he was very ineffective and wasn't in the game at all.



As for the Old Pic, i think that may be PJ McNaughton beside Randall McDonnell and Kieran Dempsey.
Eddie isn't away on a stag. He is away from the panel however. He and Ryan didn't see eye to eye on certain aspects of training. Apparently it's all physical training and no actual hurling training. Good news for us.  ;)
It's not good for you at all. It's very, very bad. It once again highlights your lack of commitment for the greater good. Roll on the moaning!!!..... I'll save you the effort...... Yes it's all about Loughiel
Dream on lad. Zero progression in 3 years. Beating a terrible Offaly team to stay up isn't progression. Getting beat by a 14 Man Team isn't progression. Not scoring for the last 25 minutes against a weakened limerick team isn't progression. In fact they schooled us in how to defend isn't progression. Time to wake up.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 09:57:27 PM
Are you telling me Eddie knows more about country training methods than Kevin Ryan?  It must be so hard for the likes of Odhran and Chrissy who are leading by example given the attitude you are trying to promote. It's actually disrespectful to the great Loughiel players down the years who gave the county so much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 07, 2015, 09:57:27 PM
Are you telling me Eddie knows more about country training methods than Kevin Ryan?  It must be so hard for the likes of Odhran and Chrissy who are leading by example given the attitude you are trying to promote. It's actually disrespectful to the great Loughiel players down the years who gave the county so much.
i do know he knows hurling training. Think what you like. This is a lad who has played for the County since he was 16. I'll take his word over yours if it's all the same.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2015, 11:20:03 PM
In saying that, Kevin Ryan is there to manage the team, not Eddie McCloskey. At the same time, however, it is Eddie McCloskey's decision whether he wants to play for Antrim or not.
correct. And no one is putting the other fellas under any pressure. I'm not going to go over old ground.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 07, 2015, 11:26:57 PM
It's funny I am sure I seen Eddie McCloskey playing for Ballycastle United the other week! Doesnt agree with the methods or got caught out and given the chop?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2015, 11:20:03 PM
In saying that, Kevin Ryan is there to manage the team, not Eddie McCloskey. At the same time, however, it is Eddie McCloskey's decision whether he wants to play for Antrim or not.
correct. And no one is putting the other fellas under any pressure. I'm not going to go over old ground.  ;)

I think we're making progress.

I also think people can find the excuses to suit when it's not cool to give the actual reason.

All of a sudden the fabrication becomes fact in the minds of people who want to believe it and here you are SIE, spouting the same old shite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on March 07, 2015, 11:26:57 PM
It's funny I am sure I seen Eddie McCloskey playing for Ballycastle United the other week! Doesnt agree with the methods or got caught out and given the chop?
Who else from the County panel did you see there on the side lines that day when they were supposed to be at training? Nothing said about that "hurler24".  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2015, 09:15:20 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2015, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 07, 2015, 11:20:03 PM
In saying that, Kevin Ryan is there to manage the team, not Eddie McCloskey. At the same time, however, it is Eddie McCloskey's decision whether he wants to play for Antrim or not.
correct. And no one is putting the other fellas under any pressure. I'm not going to go over old ground.  ;)

I think we're making progress.

I also think people can find the excuses to suit when it's not cool to give the actual reason.

All of a sudden the fabrication becomes fact in the minds of people who want to believe it and here you are SIE, spouting the same old shite
people are easily brain washed in this county it seems skull. You being one of them. Show me an example of progress that has been made on the scoreboard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2015, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on March 07, 2015, 11:26:57 PM
It's funny I am sure I seen Eddie McCloskey playing for Ballycastle United the other week! Doesnt agree with the methods or got caught out and given the chop?
Who else from the County panel did you see there on the side lines that day when they were supposed to be at training? Nothing said about that "hurler24".  ;)

So which excuse was it? Didn't see eye to over training methods, or was he dumped for playing soccer or did he prefer soccer over hurling for the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2015, 09:59:24 AM
Surely it's Neil McManus's fault? It normally is  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2015, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on March 07, 2015, 11:26:57 PM
It's funny I am sure I seen Eddie McCloskey playing for Ballycastle United the other week! Doesnt agree with the methods or got caught out and given the chop?
Who else from the County panel did you see there on the side lines that day when they were supposed to be at training? Nothing said about that "hurler24".  ;)

So which excuse was it? Didn't see eye to over training methods, or was he dumped for playing soccer or did he prefer soccer over hurling for the county?
probably a mixture of the two mr2. Eddie was disillusioned with the training and didn't attend once. He isn't the only one who did that by the way. But, as usual, he's being made out the villain. And after how he was disrespected by Ryan last year I suppose he just had enough. Of course, that whole calling Eddie up and then texting him to tell him not to bother was at the behest of McManus and his buddies. But sure, that's progression.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 10:50:41 AM
I'll be in Armoy today. Hopefully we'll win it handy.  I'm not as confident as some on here. It'll be close. Laois aren't and have never been a push over for Antrim. We should win by at least a couple of points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 08, 2015, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 08, 2015, 09:59:24 AM
Surely it's Neil McManus's fault? It normally is  ::)  ::)

Yeah it's mc manus fault
Sure when Eddie missed that howler v Limerick when he was 25 yards out str8 in front of goals in loads of space im nearly sure I seen mc manus hook him
SIE take you negativity somewhere else
Eddie is a real is a real nice lad and so is neil mc manus
It's just mc manus looks more at home at this level
Save the county bashing for the Pound or better still don't go to armoy today as that would make you a real hypocrite
Sick listening to this dribble
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
I'll speak my mind as I wish. I'll attend matches as I wish.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 08, 2015, 11:45:22 AM
Ffs, totally indicative of why we are a mess.  :( :-[  We constantly refer to the CB as a laughing stock, some of ye  want to have a good look at yourselves??  I was going to say all this back biting is unbelievable, but the more I look at it, its not unbelievable at all, its just fcukin embarrassing and fraught with negativity and bitterness all around! Ffs catch a grip, McCloskey this, McManus that, give it a rest for fss.  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 02:20:04 PM
Laois 3-2 up. Early days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 02:43:34 PM
Antrim 1-5 Laois 0-11.  Laois have the breeze first half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 03:13:48 PM
Laois 0-13 Antrim 1-10. Half way through second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 03:28:50 PM
Laois 1-16 Antrim 1-11.   :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
Full time. Laois 1-18 Antrim 1-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Can I get a refund on petrol money & admission?
That was thouroughly demoralising.
And cold.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Can I get a refund on petrol money & admission?
That was thouroughly demoralising.
And cold.

Absolutely shocking. Our forwards are awful. Fair play to Shorty for giving it a real go. The rest of the attack were shocking. Defence never gave up, they're a good unit. Sending on Matty???? What for?? Taking off E. Campbell???? Did he not see how ineffective PJ and Niall were? That was horrible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:15:18 PM
Another day in the life of antrim hurling. Class. Team selection was a joke to start of with. Don't worry. We will stay up by beating whom ever wins division 2. And back at the master plan of being happy and staying close to teams only going through the gears of league hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:15:18 PM
Another day in the life of antrim hurling. Class. Team selection was a joke to start of with. Don't worry. We will stay up by beating whom ever wins division 2. And back at the master plan of being happy and staying close to teams only going through the gears of league hurling.

Was so bad. What did you see wrong with selection?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 04:19:40 PM
Overheard Ryan calling the result a disaster. Sounds about right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
Yeah, hard to argue. Neal is doing a great job though in fb, as are Ryan and Aaron. Forward line is brutal!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 05:24:34 PM
Agreed. Full back line is best on the field. By a mile.. But we have to try something, no? Jesus it's heartbreaking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 05:33:23 PM
It is but we just don't have enough quality forwards in the squad. It's not looking good. Shane coming back simply replaces Eddie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2015, 06:03:16 PM
What was ryan shouting about just before half time was animated I couldn't make it out?
Another cyclical depressing season played out as a procession of league play-off and round-robins against the same teams.
Boring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 08, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
Serious bit of farting about at the back/midfield when we had a gale at our backs in the second half. When they put  Mattie on at half time, it looked like we were going to try and utilise the breeze and take our scores from range and launch it in on top of Mattie. Nope, silly me, we still had 4/5 hand passes before we crossed the 65 (lost it most times). Keeping possession and working the ball out against the wind is fine, but your style of play needs to be flexible and play to the conditions at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 08:29:26 PM
Agreed Bonamargy. We should have been hitting scores from 65/midfield or dropping it on top of Matt. We did neither.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2015, 09:15:38 PM
1. R. McGarry - 7
2. R. McCambridge - 8
3. N. McCauley - 8
4. A. Griffin -7
5. S. McCrory -7
6. D. McKinley - 7
7. M. Bradley - 7
8. N. McManus - 7
9. C. Johnson - 7
10. E. Campbell - 5
11. D. McKiernan - 5
12. P. Shiels - 8 (our motm - AGAIN)
13. PJ. O'Connell - 5
14. N. McKenna - 5
15. C.Clarke - 6

Anyone at the game today want to share their thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2015, 09:19:40 PM
Agreed on shiels. Great player and athlete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 08, 2015, 10:12:21 PM
Shorty is a class player. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 09, 2015, 06:58:52 AM
I've just received a text  informing me of the sad news that the great man that was Jim Nelson passed away this morning. RIP. Condolences to his family and friends.  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2015, 09:03:34 AM
That's very sad.

RIP Jim. :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 09, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
Jim will be sorely missed.
Has been unwell for some time was carried illness with his usual class and humility.
What he did in 89 was nothing compared to being a father in a wonderful family.
Met Hugh and Ciara recently and thinking of them both at this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 09, 2015, 10:53:26 AM
RIP Jim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 09, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 09, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
Jim will be sorely missed.
Has been unwell for some time was carried illness with his usual class and humility.
What he did in 89 was nothing compared to being a father in a wonderful family.
Met Hugh and Ciara recently and thinking of them both at this time.

Sad news, always carried himself with dignity. A thinking man in hurling, sparse on the ground in the north.

RIP Jim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 09, 2015, 11:23:24 AM
"We are Jim Nelsons' men" very sad to hear a bout Jim an Antrim hurling legend. I live in Chicago and a lot of older stock speak well of him out here. Hard to believe after the 1989 final that twenty odd years later he would get one over Ken Hogan by contributing to Loughiels success. Mary Queen of the Gael pray for him. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 09, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Jim was held in high regard in every club he worked with - his own St pauls and Loughgiel and his daughter Ciara played Camogie with Rossa he helped there.
On the same street lived Jim Nelson (St Pauls), Eamon and Aiden Hamill (Rossa), Tommy Hall (RIP - St Johns) and Jim Herron (Lamh Dearg) - just round the corner is Sean McGuinness (Sarsfields) house.
I dare say there was some converstaions over the garden fences!
Jim was a real gentleman, softly spoken but that hid a real passion within him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
Rest in peace Jim. Very sad news indeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 11:59:56 AM
R I P Jim
his contribution to  Antrim hurling is still unsurpassed and all done with a certain style and class
Thoughts are with his family and friends
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
i'll call sunday what it was, a complete load of utter pi$h. all i can say is thank got i mixed the time of the game up thinking it was 2.30 throw in and didnt have to pay into that mess!

i dont know where to start. First half it looked grand against a strong wind, we got in at half time a few behind and i thought we would kick on.

Out comes the team and we have matty on in full forward. why? look i know it maybe seems im hating on him but i dont. ive seen him play for the town at half back and hes a good solid defender. Hes not a forward, never has been. Our full forward line was totally ineffective in the second half, much like our forwards.

All i can say is thank god we have shorty because the rest are just a mile behind him. I also didnt think mc manus was even on the pitch till he was substituted. It was the first time i had even noticed him in the game.

Have we made improvements? yes def, but everything good we did v wexford is totally undone now and were back to the same old same old again.

To hear eddie has left the panel is depressing. Im a big fan of his but if you say SIE that he left due to training differences well thats up to him. Hes not the manager and whats done at training isnt his call. I honestly think him and shorty are the best two forwards in Antrim and losing him is a blow.

Any word on the leagues starting so i have something to look forward to!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 12:26:17 PM
RIP Jim Nelson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
Has Antrim as a County ever been lower?  Serious question.

The hurlers are looking to fight of relegation to the third tier.  Our footballers are mid table in Division 4 and just about beat London at home over the weekend.

We have no designated County ground due to ineptitude by our County Board & Ulster Council. Why close Casement until the new development got the green light?

We have also invested a lot of money purchasing a site for a new training complex that a) we can't afford and b) can't get access to as again our County Board never saw fit to carry out the necessary due diligence on the site involved.

You know fine well that one (if not both) of our senior County teams will end the year with a panel of about 17 players after a string of bad results and internal fall outs.

It's depressing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on March 09, 2015, 12:42:45 PM
Is Big hippy playing this year? Could be a useful option for full forward, Any sign of winker coming back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 09, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 09, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
i'll call sunday what it was, a complete load of utter pi$h. all i can say is thank got i mixed the time of the game up thinking it was 2.30 throw in and didnt have to pay into that mess!

i dont know where to start. First half it looked grand against a strong wind, we got in at half time a few behind and i thought we would kick on.

Out comes the team and we have matty on in full forward. why? look i know it maybe seems im hating on him but i dont. ive seen him play for the town at half back and hes a good solid defender. Hes not a forward, never has been. Our full forward line was totally ineffective in the second half, much like our forwards.

All i can say is thank god we have shorty because the rest are just a mile behind him. I also didnt think mc manus was even on the pitch till he was substituted. It was the first time i had even noticed him in the game.

Have we made improvements? yes def, but everything good we did v wexford is totally undone now and were back to the same old same old again.

To hear eddie has left the panel is depressing. Im a big fan of his but if you say SIE that he left due to training differences well thats up to him. Hes not the manager and whats done at training isnt his call. I honestly think him and shorty are the best two forwards in Antrim and losing him is a blow.

Any word on the leagues starting so i have something to look forward to!!!
While I agree Shorty is our best player I didn't think he was that good yesterday. McManus was injured in the Limerick match, and obviously struggled as a result especially in the second half.

Terrible performance in the 2nd half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 09, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Jim Nelson, R.I.P. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam uasal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 01:50:14 PM
Yesterday was brutal in fairness
When are our forwards going to start trying to pull their men out of position and run into some space especially when there is a deficet in our 50/50 ball winning ability
What wasbt mentioned so far is we shot 5 wides in row
Not on at this level
Mc manus carrying an injury didn't help
Two of their  points came from bad puck outs
The goal started with a dirty ball with one  antrim player and four of theirs  contesting it
That's a pity About young mc afee
where is mc caughan he is a forward who can take the hits and get on with it up front
We need some forwards and quick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 09, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
Has Antrim as a County ever been lower?  Serious question.

The hurlers are looking to fight of relegation to the third tier.  Our footballers are mid table in Division 4 and just about beat London at home over the weekend.

We have no designated County ground due to ineptitude by our County Board & Ulster Council. Why close Casement until the new development got the green light?

We have also invested a lot of money purchasing a site for a new training complex that a) we can't afford and b) can't get access to as again our County Board never saw fit to carry out the necessary due diligence on the site involved.

You know fine well that one (if not both) of our senior County teams will end the year with a panel of about 17 players after a string of bad results and internal fall outs.

It's depressing.

Before anyone starts slating this post as negative - it's merely stating facts.
Never being lower is subjective - the rest is not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 09, 2015, 02:27:47 PM
Have to agree with most of what has been said about yesterday.

I'm a big fan of Shorty but i don't think he has been that good the last two games, especially yesterday.

Most of the subs yesterday didn't work at all, actually weakened the team. Agree with Matty not being a forward.

While i don't agree with everything Ryan is doing, its very hard for him when ALL the club players aren't behind the county.

We seriously need ball winners in the forward line.

Work rate from a number of the forwards in the 2nd Half was very poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
Getting away from the team and on to the fans
Why was the crowd so poor yesterday
There was nearly as many loais fans
The admission fee is a bit hefty
It's seems that the bigger teams like Limerick can draw bigger crowds when we play them at home
Does that mean lots of people go to watch Limerick or cork as opposed to supporting antrim
If that's the case then our support is as fickle and our performances
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
why you ask?  because it's a circus that's being run. Drop a naturally gifted forward and play a naturally gifted donkey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 09, 2015, 03:13:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
why you ask?  because it's a circus that's being run. Drop a naturally gifted forward and play a naturally gifted donkey.
While we all can have opinions on who is right or wrong..its shocking calling one of our players a Donkey. No need for that at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
why you ask?  because it's a circus that's being run. Drop a naturally gifted forward and play a naturally gifted donkey.

I think you are out of line referring to any player who trains and puts in effort to represent his County/Club in this manner.  Just because he's not the type of player you'd like to see in this position doesn't give you the right to attack him anonymously from behind a keyboard.  It's childish and if truth be told, bullying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 09, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
why you ask?  because it's a circus that's being run. Drop a naturally gifted forward and play a naturally gifted donkey.

I think you are out of line referring to any player who trains and puts in effort to represent his County/Club in this manner.  Just because he's not the type of player you'd like to see in this position doesn't give you the right to attack him anonymously from behind a keyboard.  It's childish and if truth be told, bullying.

+1

This Donkey as you call him will most likely still be there giving his all for his county while others will have spat out the dummy long ago blaming all around them except themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: Megaman on March 09, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 09, 2015, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on March 09, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 08, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
As past few games it's been all wrong in my opinion. Don't mean to be hating.  The smallest man on the feild lining out at 11. We've a young lad that recived an u21 all start as a forward sitting on the bench,And we insist on playing young Donnelly. Big slow and awkward. Out of postion.  I've heard a few hurlers say. When Ryan has something in his head. That's it. Seems to be true. We also need someone at wing half to come onto high balls. We've 3 of our best defenders in the full back line.  Id like to see NMA or RMC out there.  And if donnelly isn't good enough for the fullback line.  He isn't good enough.


Can I ask what player are you referring to here?
Stephen Mc Afee, no??
Yes, I thought that was who you were referring to....I just wanted to be sure before jumping in because that same wee hurler (loaded with talent, pace and youth) wasn't even afforded the opportunity yesterday to grace the bench despite his commitment to training and county over the past few years.  No breezing in or breezing out yet dropped without so much as reason/indication why.
why you ask?  because it's a circus that's being run. Drop a naturally gifted forward and play a naturally gifted donkey.

I think you are out of line referring to any player who trains and puts in effort to represent his County/Club in this manner.  Just because he's not the type of player you'd like to see in this position doesn't give you the right to attack him anonymously from behind a keyboard.  It's childish and if truth be told, bullying.

+1

This Donkey as you call him will most likely still be there giving his all for his county while others will have spat out the dummy long ago blaming all around them except themselves.
+1
Matty was trying hard yesterday he just can't get where he wants to go fast enough
No need for insults
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2015, 03:50:59 PM
£13 into a match to get frozen at, with basic facilities was a bit much. fair play to armoy for putting the game on and hosting but it isnt a county ground. None of the other grounds in the county are playable. Ours is closed till May so its a def no to let it grow back again after being drained.

Also the crowd that attended is a reflection of where antrim hurling is at the moment.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:51:36 PM
Apologies for the name calling. I get frustrated sometimes.  Obviously gives his all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on March 09, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Think that's terrible what you just said there.  Would you call the fella from lgiel that came on against Limerick the same came on and was terrible first thing he done was hand pass the ball straight to Limerick man and then missed a sideline cut. But harsh on Matthew we know the county playing him out of his position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 09, 2015, 06:39:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 03:51:36 PM
Apologies for the name calling. I get frustrated sometimes.  Obviously gives his all.
We al get frustrated SG, but no need for slighting Matty at all, totally uncalled for.  I applaud you though, at least you had the fortitude to correct yourself an apologise!  ;)  I can think of many others who wouldnae.  :-[ :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on March 09, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Think that's terrible what you just said there.  Would you call the fella from lgiel that came on against Limerick the same came on and was terrible first thing he done was hand pass the ball straight to Limerick man and then missed a sideline cut. But harsh on Matthew we know the county playing him out of his position
prob wouldn't no, but the way things are going,theyll be none of my club mates on it soon.  Again. Sorry for making it personal with MD
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on March 09, 2015, 07:03:33 PM
your goalkeeper will be there . Is this lgiels fault or just a fall out with the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 09, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Think we're all fed up with the performance. The man apologized which speaks volumes. Say what you want about KR but he is waking Antrim hurling up to the realisation of the type of commitment required. As far as he's concerned you can commit fully or f@#k off. It's the only way. Some players are embracing it and others are fighting it. It's cost us some good players so far but so be it. It's what we have to do long term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 07:30:49 PM
He said sorry so let's drop it
mc Fadden wasn't playing on Sunday which was strange
If loughgeil had the best six forwards in the county I would ha e no problem with them starting
LG have been very organised at getting there forward space at club level
When they are going well it was nice to watch
Unfortunately county defenders are quicker thinking and usually have more pace and stronger
Different game all together
Ii think this is why Eddie struggled a bit with the saffron jersey on
You have to be able to contest and win 50/50 ball at county level or have a unit that can create the space with defenders delivering with pin point Accuracy to where he's running
A good corner back will be there before you anyway. You just won't open up defences as easy
The conditions where faster yesterday than v Limerick and in the second half we where behind the play big time
Young Clarke had a good game on hickey two weeks ago, but yesterday's conditions would have been a different story
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 09, 2015, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on March 09, 2015, 06:38:44 PM
Think that's terrible what you just said there.  Would you call the fella from lgiel that came on against Limerick the same came on and was terrible first thing he done was hand pass the ball straight to Limerick man and then missed a sideline cut. But harsh on Matthew we know the county playing him out of his position
prob wouldn't no, but the way things are going,theyll be none of my club mates on it soon.  Again. Sorry for making it personal with MD

SG that is not good at all, engage the brain before hitting post the next time. You will not get a more committed hurler anywhere in this county. If only there were more like him, we would be in a much better place as a county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 08:25:06 PM
Look.  I said am sorry for making it personal, but don't say we'd be in a better place with 15 Matty donnellys.  That's just being silly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 09, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 08:25:06 PM
Look.  I said am sorry for making it personal, but don't say we'd be in a better place with 15 Matty donnellys.  That's just being silly.

Commitment SG, Commitment!! If only more players gave the same commitment as him we would be in a better place!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 08:35:39 PM
Look. If it suits a lad to go and give his all to be played out of postion that's fine.  But it also suits other lads not to go and be treated as if your in a prison camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 09, 2015, 08:51:46 PM
Right fair enough I think we've established that Matty is a committed hurler. But we've also established that he's not a forward! Does he himself not tell kr look I'm a back not a forward! Am I wasting my time here because Ill only ever be a makeshift full forward! There's being committed then there's deluding urself.
Round pegs in round holes please. If we don't have a big full forward good enough then don't play with one then work a game plan around our small quick men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 09, 2015, 08:35:39 PM
Look. If it suits a lad to go and give his all to be played out of postion that's fine.  But it also suits other lads not to go and be treated as if your in a prison camp.

Prison camp is the Wrong terminology
Discipline is the word your looking
The same dicipline as the players they are competing against
Jim Nelson passed away today God rest him
And as far I remeber he expected the same and took no shit
I think it worked out pretty well for antrim
Demands are higher these days but if we are going to compete we have to be training as hard if not harder than the big guns and toe the line or walk away
If our county's better players don't get that then fine we will go with the committee ones

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 09, 2015, 08:51:46 PM
Right fair enough I think we've established that Matty is a committed hurler. But we've also established that he's not a forward! Does he himself not tell kr look I'm a back not a forward! Am I wasting my time here because Ill only ever be a makeshift full forward! There's being committed then there's deluding urself.
Round pegs in round holes please. If we don't have a big full forward good enough then don't play with one then work a game plan around our small quick men.

Agreed but we are light on quick men to
Enough matty bashing he went where he was told and probably didn't argue
Woukd sort of manager would ask a player where he wants to go
Connor Carson played full back for a while and done well to he met danny Sutcliffe in casment one day
He got pulled all over the place and couldn't keep up got completely roasted
Depends who your marking really doesn't it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 09, 2015, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 09, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Think we're all fed up with the performance. The man apologized which speaks volumes. Say what you want about KR but he is waking Antrim hurling up to the realisation of the type of commitment required. As far as he's concerned you can commit fully or f@#k off. It's the only way. Some players are embracing it and others are fighting it. It's cost us some good players so far but so be it. It's what we have to do long term.

I'm 4 square behind this post.

Frustrated as everyone is, the negativity for negativity's sake takes the energy levels and enthusiasm down. I respect where KR and his team is trying to take Antrim. I think we need to hold the line and see if the boys putting the shoulder to the wheel can turn it around. I want them to prove everyone wrong, rather than pine for this imaginary bunch of 'stars' who are willing and able to ride in and save the day. The panels motto should be .... Illegitimi non carborundum

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 09, 2015, 11:01:01 PM
Sad to hear about Jim Nelson, true hurling man and an absolute legend for this county, may he rest in peace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 09, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Think we're all fed up with the performance. The man apologized which speaks volumes. Say what you want about KR but he is waking Antrim hurling up to the realisation of the type of commitment required. As far as he's concerned you can commit fully or f@#k off. It's the only way. Some players are embracing it and others are fighting it. It's cost us some good players so far but so be it. It's what we have to do long term.

+1

couldn't agree more. Im tired of hearing about players leaving the panel because they dont agree with the training or club differences nonsense. The commitment level the current players are showing has to be commended as they are training their guts out travelling long distances after work and getting home late just because they want to be there.

We dont have the best team, we all know that but were working with the people who want to be there and thats all KR can be judged on. Theres no point people saying if we had him or him we would be better. We dont have them, they dont want to be there.

It looks like we are for Div 2 next year unless we beat either waterford or offaly. We need to beat one of them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 10:08:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 09, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Think we're all fed up with the performance. The man apologized which speaks volumes. Say what you want about KR but he is waking Antrim hurling up to the realisation of the type of commitment required. As far as he's concerned you can commit fully or f@#k off. It's the only way. Some players are embracing it and others are fighting it. It's cost us some good players so far but so be it. It's what we have to do long term.

+1

couldn't agree more. Im tired of hearing about players leaving the panel because they dont agree with the training or club differences nonsense. The commitment level the current players are showing has to be commended as they are training their guts out travelling long distances after work and getting home late just because they want to be there.

We dont have the best team, we all know that but were working with the people who want to be there and thats all KR can be judged on. Theres no point people saying if we had him or him we would be better. We dont have them, they dont want to be there.

It looks like we are for Div 2 next year unless we beat either waterford or offaly. We need to beat one of them!

No doubt there's anotehr play-off.
Nothing ever changes in these groundhog day seasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 10, 2015, 10:18:01 AM
From GAA website

"Bottom Two Teams contest Relegation Play-Off (with formula outlined above for
Quarter Finals to be used to determine Home venue) – Loser plays Roinn 2A winner in Relegation/Promotion Playoff"

So as before we get two cracks at avoiding relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
ah right, i had read elsewhere that we wouldnt get a play off.

great, yet another bit of clawing at remaining in 1b.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 10, 2015, 10:31:52 AM
If ourselves, Offaly and Laois each win one match, then score difference will determine which of us goes into a relegation play off and who goes into quarter final. So it would be important not to concede a big amount this Sunday v Waterford. That also assumes Laois don't win any other games - they have to host Wexford (which they will be targeting as a win) and are away to Limerick.

But we could well be heading into final game - home to Offaly - with a quarter final place still up for grabs, and more importantly, an early opportunity to get out of the relegation battle. Perversely though, if Laois win another game ours v Offaly could be a reversal of last years Tullamore dead rubber from our point of view, though Offaly will need to win it to avoid the play off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on March 10, 2015, 10:18:01 AM
From GAA website

"Bottom Two Teams contest Relegation Play-Off (with formula outlined above for
Quarter Finals to be used to determine Home venue) – Loser plays Roinn 2A winner in Relegation/Promotion Playoff"

So as before we get two cracks at avoiding relegation.

The system favours us - great.
But it ain't half repetitive and boring.
New season, same matches, and at the end of it - as you were.
And during the whole procession we'll hold up the club hurling of the majority of Gaels.
What was that someone said about doing the same things?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 10, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
One last point before getting back to work. If we are in a play off to decide who plays 2a champions, then we will be away from home v either Laois or Offaly. We have  had 3 home games in regular season while they have each had 2.

And on Sunday last - poor performance all round, dire crowd, less than 500 Id say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
also i might add it was advertised at the wrong time of 2.30! i spoke to a fair few people who turned up at half time.

only grace was that we didnt have to pay in!

£13 is still IMO far too much for a league game anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2015, 12:01:58 PM
When was the last time we won a league game that wasn't a play off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 12:15:05 PM
theres a good one.

carlow away in 2013
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 10, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
also i might add it was advertised at the wrong time of 2.30! i spoke to a fair few people who turned up at half time.

only grace was that we didnt have to pay in!

£13 is still IMO far too much for a league game anyway.

€15 into Croke park for a Div1 double header with the Dubs hurling and football doesn't stack up with £13 into a Div1B game standing in the cold and rain!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 10, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
also i might add it was advertised at the wrong time of 2.30! i spoke to a fair few people who turned up at half time.

only grace was that we didnt have to pay in!

£13 is still IMO far too much for a league game anyway.

€15 into Croke park for a Div1 double header with the Dubs hurling and football doesn't stack up with £13 into a Div1B game standing in the cold and rain!!

The attendance is reflective of the point I made regarding the montony and repetitivenes of each season, our standard, and the pricing - whoever sets the amount.
It shouldnt be quoted as some sort of slant on Antrim gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had

I'm sure Loughgiel would roll out the red carpet SIE!
Couldn't resist!

If anyone is on Twitter which Antrim account is official or reports match scores?
Do they report club results also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 10, 2015, 01:09:54 PM
Thought Laois looked hungrier to be honest...Antrim full forward line weren't up to much and Cahir healy had a field day at full back and he has been a weak link in the Laois team so far this year as he try's to get up to speed with the hurling again after concentrating more on football for the last few years in Laois.

Laois miss another peno that 3 so far this year lucky for us it didn't prove as costly as our two against the Biffo's(offaly)

I think Antrim will be okay and you could even beat Offaly so score difference will come into play...


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 01:41:39 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had

I'm sure Loughgiel would roll out the red carpet SIE!
Couldn't resist!

If anyone is on Twitter which Antrim account is official or reports match scores?
Do they report club results also?

usually only championship games and the odd random game. The county antrim post are good for tweeting club results.

If i get a 3G signal i usually tweet our scores as they come and tag the CAP and antrim account on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
County antrim post, clubaontroma and antrimgaapro are all very good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 02:05:22 PM
Great guys thanks a lot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 10, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
I run the @Clubaontroma account. Its concentrated on county teams, and score updates depends on which matches I am at or for which I can get online radio commentary, which you can for most matches down south. On days like Sunday last it is limited due to lack of wi-fi / 4g connection on the north coast.

It was previously the 'official' county account but isn't since I stood down as PRO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had

I'm sure Loughgiel would roll out the red carpet SIE!
Couldn't resist!

If anyone is on Twitter which Antrim account is official or reports match scores?
Do they report club results also?
I'm sure we would if the pitch was playable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2015, 05:27:10 PM
I see the first weekend fixtures are up

6 00 PM   St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry v Mac Uilin CLG       
6 00 PM   St John's GAC   v Loughgiel Shamrocks   
6 00 PM   Ghaeil Chluanaidh v   Ruairí Óg   
6 00 PM   Naomh Gall v   O`Donovan Rossa           
6 00 PM   Ballycran v Cuchullains-Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 10, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had

I'm sure Loughgiel would roll out the red carpet SIE!
Couldn't resist!

If anyone is on Twitter which Antrim account is official or reports match scores?
Do they report club results also?
I'm sure we would if the pitch was playable.
Armoy is grand, I can cope with the crowds we are getting
"We have 99 problems but a pitch ain't one"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 10, 2015, 08:05:11 PM
All true Antrim hurling Gaels will be mourning the loss of the one and only Jim Nelson who will be buried tomorrow.

For many the days out supporting our legendary hurling team of the late eighties and early nineties provided many many memories, and rose our expectation levels through the roof, with genuine cause.

Jim was the man who assembled some unique talents and formed them into one helluva formidable team that regularly beat the best teams of that era.

Tomorrow will be a sad day for many of those legends, as well as hundreds of us who look back on those Nelson led days as simply the highlights of many of our lives.

Rest in peace Jim. You will never be forgotten wherever Antrim hurling is discussed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 10, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 07:30:49 PM
He said sorry so let's drop it
mc Fadden wasn't playing on Sunday which was strange
If loughgeil had the best six forwards in the county I would ha e no problem with them starting
LG have been very organised at getting there forward space at club level
When they are going well it was nice to watch
Unfortunately county defenders are quicker thinking and usually have more pace and stronger
Different game all together
Ii think this is why Eddie struggled a bit with the saffron jersey on
You have to be able to contest and win 50/50 ball at county level or have a unit that can create the space with defenders delivering with pin point Accuracy to where he's running
A good corner back will be there before you anyway. You just won't open up defences as easy
The conditions where faster yesterday than v Limerick and in the second half we where behind the play big time
Young Clarke had a good game on hickey two weeks ago, but yesterday's conditions would have been a different story

That is the most out dated statement that keeps being thrown out around these parts.  There isnt a single County team worth their salt that stands by this anymore.  Even Kk have dropped the likes of Tommy Walsh for half backs (Kieran Joyce, Cillian Buckley) and midfielders (Lester Ryan, Richie Hogan) who are better at working the ball out and delivering balls to forwards that have a 70/30 chance of sticking.

Obviously not every single ball can be this and the 50/50 will sometimes be the only option.  Can anyone explain to me why for the last three years we have insisted on working the ball out of the half backs and midfield until we have a little space and then humping a ball with snow on it on top of Clarky/Pj/Conor McCann/Hamill?  Why do we stop working the ball at our own 65?  The forwards fight and try but more often than not the ball is straight back onto our half backs who have to work like hell and eventually run out of steam for the last 10mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 10, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 10, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 10, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
i dont mind paying into a game but seriously someone has to look at the pricing of these games.

£13 to stand in the freezing wind and rain with no shelter whatsoever makes no sense. Added to that there was next to no parking facilities.

This isnt a slight against armoy by the way.

Was chatting to few ballycastle club men and they told me both their pitches are now ruined from the county matches and they cant even train on them themselves now. Theres no grounds available due to all the bad weather we have had

I'm sure Loughgiel would roll out the red carpet SIE!
Couldn't resist!

If anyone is on Twitter which Antrim account is official or reports match scores?
Do they report club results also?
I'm sure we would if the pitch was playable.
Armoy is grand, I can cope with the crowds we are getting
"We have 99 problems but a pitch ain't one"
lol 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 11, 2015, 12:50:59 AM
Quote from: gelvis on March 10, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2015, 07:30:49 PM
He said sorry so let's drop it
mc Fadden wasn't playing on Sunday which was strange
If loughgeil had the best six forwards in the county I would ha e no problem with them starting
LG have been very organised at getting there forward space at club level
When they are going well it was nice to watch
Unfortunately county defenders are quicker thinking and usually have more pace and stronger
Different game all together
Ii think this is why Eddie struggled a bit with the saffron jersey on
You have to be able to contest and win 50/50 ball at county level or have a unit that can create the space with defenders delivering with pin point Accuracy to where he's running
A good corner back will be there before you anyway. You just won't open up defences as easy
The conditions where faster yesterday than v Limerick and in the second half we where behind the play big time
Young Clarke had a good game on hickey two weeks ago, but yesterday's conditions would have been a different story

That is the most out dated statement that keeps being thrown out around these parts.  There isnt a single County team worth their salt that stands by this anymore.  Even Kk have dropped the likes of Tommy Walsh for half backs (Kieran Joyce, Cillian Buckley) and midfielders (Lester Ryan, Richie Hogan) who are better at working the ball out and delivering balls to forwards that have a 70/30 chance of sticking.

Obviously not every single ball can be this and the 50/50 will sometimes be the only option.  Can anyone explain to me why for the last three years we have insisted on working the ball out of the half backs and midfield until we have a little space and then humping a ball with snow on it on top of Clarky/Pj/Conor McCann/Hamill?  Why do we stop working the ball at our own 65?  The forwards fight and try but more often than not the ball is straight back onto our half backs who have to work like hell and eventually run out of steam for the last 10mins.

Hard to know which part of this is the worst. Do you think Tommy Walsh is gone because he lobbed it down the field. He's gone because his legs are gone. Buckley and Joyce have some hurling to do before they get even near one the most decorated hurlers in history
Let's see how the kilkenny players your spouting about get on without him and JJ for the next ten years
I don't even know what you mean by working the ball out
Are your referring to  short passing whilst keeping possession to a man gets the ball that's in space and can make a better delivery or shoot
I think your watching to much soccer
Now can you name me one antrim player who can win possession in defence  and midfield and make room for himself to get fast low ball into a forward
We don't have a hogan most teams don't so lay it of  to a support player In space before you closed down
I was posting in relation to our forwards on Sunday. To suggest if we got the ball in faster with lower trajectory is going to yeild a better return is  speculating
That's still a 50/50 ball in my book. Is if Jackie tyrrell or paul murphy couldn't cope with that
Imm sick listening to this fast low chest height ball for the foward theory
A good corner back or full back will be out In front winning it anyway
Our forwards got some bad ball on Sunday but they good some good ones to with the same result
I would say if you ask a kilkenny back who they hate marking they say someone like bonner maher because it doesn't matter what way the ball comes in he's a handful
Maybe when Ryan leaves you can pitch for the manages position and we can Play like kilkenny

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 07:55:13 AM
There's bound to be a youtube video on how to play like Kilkenny somewhere? :)

Not enough ex hurlers going back into their clubs to develop and improve the standards from low down across the board and maintain that desire to acheive up through senior IMO. Good enough is good enough for a lot of whingers until those who were supposedly good enough are found to be not good enough compared to the other counties. Should we really be as shocked as some people are making out?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2015, 08:03:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 07:55:13 AM
There's bound to be a youtube video on how to play like Kilkenny somewhere? :)

Not enough ex hurlers going back into their clubs to develop and improve the standards from low down across the board and maintain that desire to acheive up through senior IMO. Good enough is good enough for a lot of whingers until those who were supposedly good enough are found to be not good enough compared to the other counties. Should we really be as shocked as some people are making out?

From what I can see ex-hurlers are involved root and branch in their clubs - and fair dues. From kids up most sides are coached by former players (excepting some paid celebrity managers at senior).

However, I would question the hurling credentials of SOME of those involved in our county development squads. SOME are there for their own personal promotion and one wonders if a coaching certificate from a weekend course is really the most worthwhile of credentials. There's a cosy network of people in these positions and I'm not sure they are really furthering hurling.

Onbviously that doesn't apply to all and I personally know of hard working excellent hurling men there also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 08:27:46 AM
Would you mind elaborating on whats "cosy" about taking a development squad btdtgtt?

Could I also emphasis the "not enough" part of my previous post. Reading your reply it would seem you read it as "no ex hurlers".

Fair dues to them all eh? ...Jesus they're doing a great job? Until we find out we havent really collectively done enough to develop hurlers of the right calibre. Not enough quality because the quantity of coaching resource is too spread out both at county level and in clubs.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2015, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 08:27:46 AM
Would you mind elaborating on whats "cosy" about taking a development squad btdtgtt?

Could I also emphasis the "not enough" part of my previous post. Reading your reply it would seem you read it as "no ex hurlers".

Fair dues to them all eh? ...Jesus they're doing a great job? Until we find out we havent really collectively done enough to develop hurlers of the right calibre. Not enough quality because the quantity of coaching resource is too spread out both at county level and in clubs.

How many coaches take sessions with juveniles on how to educate them on game plans , spacial awareness, discipline, tactics, and other areas of the game to give them another teaching/coaching method? Brief video analysis, doesn't have to be long but kids learn things so much differently now, then take it to the training field and try and implement it... Yes most will probably go off fo their own thing but some will buy into it.... Playing to a plan with 20 dedicated hurlers will reap benefits
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2015, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 08:27:46 AM
Would you mind elaborating on whats "cosy" about taking a development squad btdtgtt?

I don't think taking development squads is cosy and applaud anyone who gives time voluntarily.
What I do think is cosy - is the appointment of some paid positions.
Could I also emphasis the "not enough" part of my previous post. Reading your reply it would seem you read it as "no ex hurlers".

No clarification needed - my post was the same - trying to make the point without generalising.
Fair dues to them all eh? ...Jesus they're doing a great job? Until we find out we havent really collectively done enough to develop hurlers of the right calibre. Not enough quality because the quantity of coaching resource is too spread out both at county level and in clubs.

Yes fair dues to anyone who gives up time voluntarily. To be honest I think our clubs do quite well in using past players - sure where else would they get volunteers from. Obviosuly we would always want more and better quality coaches - but fair dues to those that do work in their clubs. Personally I think they contribute more than any county development squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 11, 2015, 11:20:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2015, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 08:27:46 AM
Would you mind elaborating on whats "cosy" about taking a development squad btdtgtt?

Could I also emphasis the "not enough" part of my previous post. Reading your reply it would seem you read it as "no ex hurlers".

Fair dues to them all eh? ...Jesus they're doing a great job? Until we find out we havent really collectively done enough to develop hurlers of the right calibre. Not enough quality because the quantity of coaching resource is too spread out both at county level and in clubs.

How many coaches take sessions with juveniles on how to educate them on game plans , spacial awareness, discipline, tactics, and other areas of the game to give them another teaching/coaching method? Brief video analysis, doesn't have to be long but kids learn things so much differently now, then take it to the training field and try and implement it... Yes most will probably go off fo their own thing but some will buy into it.... Playing to a plan with 20 dedicated hurlers will reap benefits
You are 100 percent correct- kids are never to young to learn this stuff but what if you only have the resources to do the basic stuff like skull said
It's all about coach numbers and quality
One hour a week wI'll not a good hurler make
But I like your thinking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 11, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
i like to keep a list of what sessions people attend and it can scare individuals at times when you tell them how little work they have actually done compared to others.

Training once a week isnt enough anymore. A 1 hr indoor session disappears like that and you dont get as much done as you think. Players need to be doing their own work outside of what a coach offers in order to improve
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 11, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 11, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
i like to keep a list of what sessions people attend and it can scare individuals at times when you tell them how little work they have actually done compared to others.

Training once a week isnt enough anymore. A 1 hr indoor session disappears like that and you dont get as much done as you think. Players need to be doing their own work outside of what a coach offers in order to improve
Exactly
I always wondered if you made a underage antrim player choose between the playstation and hurling
One of the other what would they say compared to  a average kilkenny kid
Here lies the problem
Down there it's the be all that ends all
It's not our kids fault because they  don't see our county guys as sporting Icons like down there
There just isn't the same thing to aspire to
Same at club level
Success breeds sucess unfortunately so does failure
That's why I have the utmost respect for anyone who really commits to the county Jersey
For all the training there not much light at end of the tunnel
It's a vicious circle

Skull is right more coaches and HR will go a long way to producing better hurlers
If we good convert all the critics in antrim to coaches we woukd be half way there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 11, 2015, 02:44:30 PM
when i was a kid the county team were icons. Players from that 89 team were the dogs as far as i was concerned as a kid. those guys were all tough, skilled and dedicated hurlers both for club and county. you looked up to them.

now kids dont care about the county team, a lot of them see it as an excuse to get some free gear then bugger off as soon as. yes there are a lot who stick at it but they are few and far between now. its the same for camogie as well.

as skull says we need more coaches but also good coaches at that. Ive always made it my point of watching other people and learning off them, how they approach a session, what they say, body language, drills, advice etc. and trying to take it with me. Its maybe a case of coaching the coaches!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
Sort of lost the drive myself in fairness in getting back at taking juveniles at the club, have changed jobs recently (completely different field for me) so have been immersed in that, hopefully I can get back into it sooner rather than later.

At that happens for a lot of ex players, getting the time and drive to do it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 11, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2015, 02:51:17 PM
At that happens for a lot of ex players, getting the time and drive to do it

Emphasis on the drive. Sure someone else can do it and then they can whinge when their juvenile teams are struggling because there really was only a skeleton group of people (possibly with limited know how) to just about hold the thing together.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 11, 2015, 03:12:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 11, 2015, 02:44:30 PM
when i was a kid the county team were icons. Players from that 89 team were the dogs as far as i was concerned as a kid. those guys were all tough, skilled and dedicated hurlers both for club and county. you looked up to them.

now kids dont care about the county team, a lot of them see it as an excuse to get some free gear then bugger off as soon as. yes there are a lot who stick at it but they are few and far between now. its the same for camogie as well.

as skull says we need more coaches but also good coaches at that. Ive always made it my point of watching other people and learning off them, how they approach a session, what they say, body language, drills, advice etc. and trying to take it with me. Its maybe a case of coaching the coaches!

It most definitely is that, but i'm not entirely sure the existing foundation and level 1 coaching courses from the GAA are in any way adequate for that. Its still hard to beat someone who knows what its all about AND can communicate with the children in a positive and supportive manner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 11, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 11, 2015, 03:12:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 11, 2015, 02:44:30 PM
when i was a kid the county team were icons. Players from that 89 team were the dogs as far as i was concerned as a kid. those guys were all tough, skilled and dedicated hurlers both for club and county. you looked up to them.

now kids dont care about the county team, a lot of them see it as an excuse to get some free gear then bugger off as soon as. yes there are a lot who stick at it but they are few and far between now. its the same for camogie as well.

as skull says we need more coaches but also good coaches at that. Ive always made it my point of watching other people and learning off them, how they approach a session, what they say, body language, drills, advice etc. and trying to take it with me. Its maybe a case of coaching the coaches!

It most definitely is that, but i'm not entirely sure the existing foundation and level 1 coaching courses from the GAA are in any way adequate for that. Its still hard to beat someone who knows what its all about AND can communicate with the children in a positive and supportive manner

def. We have some great youth coaches in our club for hurling esp and its down to both their approach and passion for doing it. Most are all ex-senior players and have seen it and done it all and that sort of experience is so hard to beat. The kids respond really well to them and want to be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 11, 2015, 04:42:35 PM
Hard to know which part of this is the worst. Do you think Tommy Walsh is gone because he lobbed it down the field. He's gone because his legs are gone. Buckley and Joyce have some hurling to do before they get even near one the most decorated hurlers in history
Let's see how the kilkenny players your spouting about get on without him and JJ for the next ten years
I don't even know what you mean by working the ball out
Are your referring to  short passing whilst keeping possession to a man gets the ball that's in space and can make a better delivery or shoot
I think your watching to much soccer
Now can you name me one antrim player who can win possession in defence  and midfield and make room for himself to get fast low ball into a forward
We don't have a hogan most teams don't so lay it of  to a support player In space before you closed down
I was posting in relation to our forwards on Sunday. To suggest if we got the ball in faster with lower trajectory is going to yeild a better return is  speculating
That's still a 50/50 ball in my book. Is if Jackie tyrrell or paul murphy couldn't cope with that
Imm sick listening to this fast low chest height ball for the foward theory
A good corner back or full back will be out In front winning it anyway
Our forwards got some bad ball on Sunday but they good some good ones to with the same result
I would say if you ask a kilkenny back who they hate marking they say someone like bonner maher because it doesn't matter what way the ball comes in he's a handful
Maybe when Ryan leaves you can pitch for the manages position and we can Play like kilkenny
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20/30/40 yard passing. Any one of our quick and light forwards can beat a corner back out over that distance with an accurate pass coming their way.  They have no excuse not to, it's drilled in from u10s.  They should be working in training on different runs to make depending on who is coming out with the ball and in what area of the pitch.  Even have the half forwards making dummy runs to hit the space they leave behind.  In my opinion Neal McAuley is one of the best passers we have and tried to hit a different pass into the forwards than the ones they got no joy from. 
Someone stated before that we should be able to shoot from 80/90 yards and take scores.  Some of our midfield have been trying to do that and nearly always ends up with the ball drifting wide/dropping into the keepers hand/useless ball on small forwards.  Anyone who has played full back will tell you they'd be happy with a team dropping balls in all day because all you have to do is break the ball and someone sweeps.
Bonner Maher has a good hand on him yes, he's also got about the highest work rate of any forward ive ever seen and a savage desire to win that dirty ball.  How often does he lay it off with a short handpass to Bubbles/Noel McGrath/Seamus Callinan and they pick off an easy score. Its always when he gets put under pressure and ties up 2/3 defenders. Our forwards don't seem to make the same supporting runs off each other. 

And I couldn't possibly be considered for the County job, I haven't got a brogue and I'm not from one of the big 3!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 11, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
Big 3..... Ooooooh that's going to cause trouble!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2015, 07:15:57 AM
Lol the 'big 3'? Kilkenny, tipp and cork you mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on March 12, 2015, 08:26:30 AM
Hahaha apologies to all from St Galls for this slight! The big 3 1/2 I should say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 12, 2015, 09:18:48 AM
Oh Jaysus, it's getting worse!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Have ballycastle dropped out of the "big 4"?  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 12, 2015, 01:36:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 11:29:26 AM
Have ballycastle dropped out of the "big 4"?  8)
Looking at gelvus post he mentioned brogue as well
So as long as you speak ulster Scott's you can be considered big
For instance
If you think Jazz is a music genre then your not eligible
But if you think jazz is a 70s film about a shark then your in
Etc
Apparently it Inhances your chances of a county management position to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Our Dinny or our Kev haven't much of a north Antrim twang hi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2015, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Our Dinny or our Kev haven't much of a north Antrim twang hi.

SIE

I would think you would get away with 'Our Dinny' alright but cant see 'Our Kev' having the same resonance  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 12, 2015, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
Our Dinny or our Kev haven't much of a north Antrim twang hi.

SIE

I would think you would get away with 'Our Dinny' alright but cant see 'Our Kev' having the same resonance  ;)
Is he not "our" County Manager?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 12, 2015, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: frostbit on March 12, 2015, 10:29:47 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 12, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
I was glad to hear the hurling fraternity turned out in great numbers yesterday in respect and honour of Jim Nelson, R.I.P.

I couldnae make the funeral myself, as I am not in a job where it easy to get away, but delighted to hear fellow Shamrocks, County Camogs and most of the clubs were well represented.  I heard also Paudie Butler and Michael 'Babs' Keating also put in an appearance, says a lot about the man and the regard in which he was held!  ;D ;D

Interested to know how many of your boys made the funeral, the great hurling men that you are? ::) ???

Pity also about a certain Dall mans choice of colourful language in the Irish News tribute, make ya wonder did he really know the good man at all, with his choice of language?  Holy heavens, can he not string a sentence together without causing embarrassment?  :-[ :-[  (Well, I hear he was at the funeral, which is one consolation).  ::)

Wind your neck in. Usually your wind ups are s.hit but this has crossed the line.
Well, I'd have to say your own posts are really engaging and get peoples attention (not)! ;) ::)  You should stick to your Brands, ASDA and your Crunchy Nuts or maybe get out more?  ;D ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 13, 2015, 12:21:18 AM
Quote from: frostbit on March 13, 2015, 12:07:24 AM
1. Haven't a scooby doo what you're referring to.
2. You used the funeral of Jim Nelson to have a pop at people.

Classy stuff. Away back to your other accounts.
Tut, tut, tut Frosty, deception is a terrible vice on your part!  ;)

Do you really think I'm bovvered??  ;) ;D

I have more regard for Jim Nelson (R.I.P) than you think.  The point I was making was did the individual really have to speak in such crass and undignified terms? I let you and others be the judge of that, but from my perspective, totally uncalled for.  :( ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
ballycastle have pulled out of the tournament in Armoy, we are into the final v Loughgiel.

couldnt play us last weekend but could play carey in a friendly im told. must be keeping their team selection a secret from the Div 1 teams lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 13, 2015, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
ballycastle have pulled out of the tournament in Armoy, we are into the final v Loughgiel.

couldnt play us last weekend but could play carey in a friendly im told. must be keeping their team selection a secret from the Div 1 teams lol

How are Cloney going to fare in Div1? Heard our lads played them in a friendly the other week and won handy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
i think they are going to find it tough if im honest. They are a small tight nit club not blessed with massive numbers due to their location so any sort of injuries will hit them hard.

They will pick up points but i dont think it will be that many
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 13, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
D. McKernan and E. Campbell drop to the bench for T. McCann and S.McNaughton.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Antrim v Waterford Hurling
1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
4
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
5
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
6
Conor Mc Kinley
Cú Chullain
7
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
8
Neil Mc Manus (Capt)
Ruairi Og
9
Ciaran Johnson
Naomh Eoin
10
Nial Mc Kenna
Padraig Sairseil
11
Tomas Ma Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
12
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
13
PJ O Connell​
Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
14
Shane Mc Naughton
Ruairi Og
15
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
16
Ryan Mc Garry
Na Seamroga
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
19
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga
20
Jackson Mc Greevy
Naomh Gall
21
Conor Mc Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
23
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
24
Darren Hamill
Shane O Neills
25
Conor Johnston
Naomh Eoin
26
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 13, 2015, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
ballycastle have pulled out of the tournament in Armoy, we are into the final v Loughgiel.

couldnt play us last weekend but could play carey in a friendly im told. must be keeping their team selection a secret from the Div 1 teams lol

Our match V Dunloy in Armoys tournament was going ahead last Sunday until Armoy was selected as the venue for the Antrim V Laois national league match, which left no pitch to play Dunloy. To get a game we then arranged to play Carey (in Carey) in the North Antrim senior league last weekend. Between North Antrim Senior league games and all county league games, we will have a game every weekend for the next two months, so won't have a free weekend to play Dunloy. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 13, 2015, 08:47:36 PM
So if that's the case why not let  the game be re fixed.  Why drop out? Something isn't adding up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 13, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Antrim v Waterford Hurling
1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
4
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
5
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
6
Conor Mc Kinley
Cú Chullain
7
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
8
Neil Mc Manus (Capt)
Ruairi Og
9
Ciaran Johnson
Naomh Eoin
10
Nial Mc Kenna
Padraig Sairseil
11
Tomas Ma Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
12
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
13
PJ O Connell​
Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
14
Shane Mc Naughton
Ruairi Og
15
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
16
Ryan Mc Garry
Na Seamroga
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
19
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga
20
Jackson Mc Greevy
Naomh Gall
21
Conor Mc Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
23
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
24
Darren Hamill
Shane O Neills
25
Conor Johnston
Naomh Eoin
26
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
good to see SMN back in antrim colours. Great forward on his day.  Mc Cann as center forward is an improvement for me anyway. What's carsons deal this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 13, 2015, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 13, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 13, 2015, 02:51:52 PM
Antrim v Waterford Hurling
1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
4
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
5
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
6
Conor Mc Kinley
Cú Chullain
7
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
8
Neil Mc Manus (Capt)
Ruairi Og
9
Ciaran Johnson
Naomh Eoin
10
Nial Mc Kenna
Padraig Sairseil
11
Tomas Ma Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
12
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
13
PJ O Connell​
Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
14
Shane Mc Naughton
Ruairi Og
15
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
16
Ryan Mc Garry
Na Seamroga
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
19
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga
20
Jackson Mc Greevy
Naomh Gall
21
Conor Mc Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
23
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
24
Darren Hamill
Shane O Neills
25
Conor Johnston
Naomh Eoin
26
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
good to see SMN back in antrim colours. Great forward on his day.  Mc Cann as center forward is an improvement for me anyway. What's carsons deal this year?
Mccann is a good target man with a great hand on him hope he does well in there. What about Conor McCann he had a great year under dinny then hasn't really had a proper go since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on March 14, 2015, 10:12:03 AM
So who actually won the other McAuley Cup semi-final? And when they playing the final, not many weekends left until All County Leagues start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 14, 2015, 02:25:26 PM
Quote from: glensgael on March 14, 2015, 10:12:03 AM
So who actually won the other McAuley Cup semi-final? And when they playing the final, not many weekends left until All County Leagues start.

Loughgiel won 0-16 - 0-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on March 14, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
can u clarify bonamargy. u say ur game was goin ahead until laois game. u were supposed to play dunloy the sunday before that right after the c'dall l'guile game?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 14, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
Loughgiel vs dunloy is always a tight game. It will be a great chance to get one over early on the ones over the bog.  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 14, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
I see Offaly beat limerick today. Bad news for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on March 14, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
it is not the case that antrim will end up playing more than likely laois in a relegation play off anyway ?????
also like to say about the great turn out for Jim Nelson.  Guy was a legend and had the most impressive CV in Ulster hurling.  What did strike me was the way he conducted himself..... an absolute gentleman.  RIP

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 15, 2015, 12:20:41 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on March 14, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
it is not the case that antrim will end up playing more than likely laois in a relegation play off anyway ?????
also like to say about the great turn out for Jim Nelson.  Guy was a legend and had the most impressive CV in Ulster hurling.  What did strike me was the way he conducted himself..... an absolute gentleman.  RIP
I was thinking more of the fact that we have to play Offaly yet. It's not looking good as far as the result goes. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I think Waterford will hand out a bit of a lesson tomorrow. And then it's Offaly. A team who Antrim were at least on a par with last season. Offaly beat a good limerick team today after getting beat by Antrim last year in the play off. Undoubted progress being shown by Whelahan and his team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 15, 2015, 01:57:34 PM
Another dark day for Antrim hurling, an all too familiar pattern. I'm not going to put the blame on players or management. I know they try very hard. The bottom line is we just aren't good enough for this level. What I think should be done is forget putting any emphasis on the County team. Every bit of energy should be directed towards youth and a vibrant club scene. I would have no problem just using a gather up for a division 2 game next year. Antrim are too far removed from the hurling scene to improve significantly. Lets just get back to basics so were not totally demoralized. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 15, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
Waterford 4-30 Antrim 0-10 FT

:o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 15, 2015, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 15, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
Waterford 4-30 Antrim 0-10 FT

:o

We seriously should do what the Kilkenny footballers do and pull out next year. Organise all cub games for the good weather and forget this repetitive nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 15, 2015, 02:20:23 PM
Particularly tough on Kevin Ryan given the opposition. Did we play a reserve team or did we play full strength?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
That's some tanking
Offaly beating Limerick it's all gone pete tong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Everybit of energy should go towards youth.  Jesus Christ the average age of this squad has to be in the low 20s. Are we gonna except this for another 10 years to the current U10s come in?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 15, 2015, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
Everybit of energy should go towards youth.  Jesus Christ the average age of this squad has to be in the low 20s. Are we gonna except this for another 10 years to the current U10s come in?
So whats the alternative? Just keep pulling players from the clubs for this f**king farce? Lets concentrate in making a great competitive club scene forget the county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
How many league games has anyone on here seen our county manager at?  He got this group of U21s to a final and seems to be happy with them and his love child, sure if the players are happy. That's the main thing!!!!  f**king going back the way.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 15, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 15, 2015, 02:58:55 PM
Difficult to see where we go from here?  :) Feckin devastating defeat today and Offlays win last night puts us in serious diff once more!  ::) ??? :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 15, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Why would he go to club league games?  What would he learn? Do we really want Antrim Hurling to come down to 2 or 3 big club games a year?  We need a complete overhaul of club hurling too. A couple of ' hurling only' clubs in Belfast would be a start. We have 3 competitive clubs who win the hurling championship year in year out. It's not enough. We all love hurling but it's in a valley at the minute. If we were all brutally honest and left egos at the door our club teams were all poor last year too. Not enough quality. It's definitely not KR"s fault. He's doing his best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 15, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Why would he go to club league games?  What would he learn? Do we really want Antrim Hurling to come down to 2 or 3 big club games a year?  We need a complete overhaul of club hurling too. A couple of ' hurling only' clubs in Belfast would be a start. We have 3 competitive clubs who win the hurling championship year in year out. It's not enough. We all love hurling but it's in a valley at the minute. If we were all brutally honest and left egos at the door our club teams were all poor last year too. Not enough quality. It's definitely not KR"s fault. He's doing his best.

couldn't have said that better, spot on in relation to belfast and club hurling standards have been brutal this last five or six years. Why is everybody pointing the finger at Ryan. The players he has on the panel have been the cream of all the clubs at underage this last few years apart from the ones that won't commit
you would think we where competing with these teams before Ryans arrival.
we scored 26 points against wexford and scored ten today what is that all about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 15, 2015, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 15, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Why would he go to club league games?  What would he learn? Do we really want Antrim Hurling to come down to 2 or 3 big club games a year?  We need a complete overhaul of club hurling too. A couple of ' hurling only' clubs in Belfast would be a start. We have 3 competitive clubs who win the hurling championship year in year out. It's not enough. We all love hurling but it's in a valley at the minute. If we were all brutally honest and left egos at the door our club teams were all poor last year too. Not enough quality. It's definitely not KR"s fault. He's doing his best.

couldn't have said that better, spot on in relation to belfast and club hurling standards have been brutal this last five or six years. Why is everybody pointing the finger at Ryan. The players he has on the panel have been the cream of all the clubs at underage this last few years apart from the ones that won't commit
you would think we where competing with these teams before Ryans arrival.
we scored 26 points against wexford and scored ten today what is that all about

Unfortunately yah looks like a bit of an aberration now, Wexford probably were sluggish and finding their feet, they have currently put 5-18 on Laois
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 15, 2015, 03:31:21 PM
I was looking at some of Curlys pictures on the social media of Antrim club hurling in the 80's early 90's. What stood out for me was the huge attendances at some of these club games. I believe that long before we put so much energy in to the County team our club scene was at  its finest. I liked the idea of Ulster league it brings more teams on board and its good for us and our neighbors Derry and Down. These big continuos heavy defeats at County level demoralizes everyone down to grass roots. Its not enjoyable. The focus on my view should be our clubs and let the County team off. Nothing has changed in a hundred years.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
Being 100% honest , yes Loughgiel wasn't great last year.  But they were winning f**king championships and ulster titles and what did that do for the county.  f**k all. Because they were winning and it didn't please captain fantastic. What difference would Kevin Ryan going to club games make?????  Jesus Christ,  Id say there's lads on our starting team he wouldnt even no there first name.    Id have no problem in saying Id pick a team outside our starting 15 that would beat our starting 15!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 15, 2015, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant link=topic=1347.msg1448814#msg1448814The date=1426433494
Being 100% honest , yes Loughgiel wasn't great. ast year.  But they were winning f**kiwith ng championships and ulster titles and what did that do foto r the county.  f**k all. Bbe ecause they were winning andJay it didn't please captain fantastic. What diffthe the erence would Kevin Ryan going to club games make?????  Jesus Christ,  Id say there's lads on our starting team he wouldnt even no there first name.    Id have no problem in saying Id pick a team outside our starting 15 that would beat our starting 15!!!!

SG, as much as this might shock you. It's not all about Loughiel. The boys from your club that want to play county are playing county. Could you quit the obsession/paranoia with N. McManus. If a few of your great attackers had his commitment to the greater good we would be instantly in a better place just like we were when Beaver, Woody etc. did in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 03:59:16 PM
I no its not all about Loughgiel. Well at county level it isn't anyway.   HS you should no the facts before you go on the defense.  Unless my club mates that have been with the county tell me lies.  Maybe that's it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 15, 2015, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 03:59:16 PM
I no its not all about Loughgiel. Well at county level it isn't anyway.   HS you should no the facts before you go on the defense.  Unless my club mates that have been with the county tell me lies.  Maybe that's it
of course that's what it is sg. Sure it's only them pesky loughgiel boyos at their work.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2015, 07:33:12 PM
While this board only holds the views of a very small minority and ultimately won't change the direction of the county team, it still depressing though that the divided between clubs is so bad that it works against the county team and possible development of the county.. Maybe just maybe one day we can join together and bring a team together that can really make a difference
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Id love nothing more. Ultimately it's the players that have to be mature enough to do this. But at the point it's gone to. I think it's beyond fixing MR2. If you look back far enough in my posts, am sure I've said this already. But I think that Johnson deserves a chance at county manager. The county was in a bad place along long time ago. It was wee Jim that fixed it then and got players to respect one another and pull together for the love of there own county.  Am not for 1 second saying that he'd be anything like Jim Nelson. But I honestly believe we need a city man at the helm to do away with the country teams hatred towards one another and the childish shite that goes with it.  Ive said in a post above and I truly believe it to be true.  It's got 10 times worse since Loughgiel started winning things. It all adds up. And people can sit on this and say commitment and bla bla f**king bla.  There's not 1 hurler from Loughgiel wouldn't give every bit as much as the great one given there chance and for things to be done fair and right.  Before anyone comments. Go away and learn the facts. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2015, 08:02:23 PM
I'm trying not to get annoyed by that scoreline by consoling myself it doesn't matter anyway. But then I realisjng no matter how much of a boring repetitive procession our county season is - our club scene is still paralysed by it. Maybe therein lies the problem. Depressing. With a capital D.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 15, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 15, 2015, 07:44:24 PM
Id love nothing more. Ultimately it's the players that have to be mature enough to do this. But at the point it's gone to. I think it's beyond fixing MR2. If you look back far enough in my posts, am sure I've said this already. But I think that Johnson deserves a chance at county manager. The county was in a bad place along long time ago. It was wee Jim that fixed it then and got players to respect one another and pull together for the love of there own county.  Am not for 1 second saying that he'd be anything like Jim Nelson. But I honestly believe we need a city man at the helm to do away with the country teams hatred towards one another and the childish shite that goes with it.  Ive said in a post above and I truly believe it to be true.  It's got 10 times worse since Loughgiel started winning things. It all adds up. And people can sit on this and say commitment and bla bla f**king bla.  There's not 1 hurler from Loughgiel wouldn't give every bit as much as the great one given there chance and for things to be done fair and right.  Before anyone comments. Go away and learn the facts.
probably the best Post in the world.... Ever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 15, 2015, 09:20:51 PM
From my perspective here, the clubs and the players need to buy into the county team and commit to giving of their best ffs.   ::) Can we honestly say, hand on heart every club in the county and every player of county standard buys in and give their all, lets be feckin honest here, that has never been the case.  Do we want to compete with the big boys and win Liam McCarthys, sure we feckin do!  :(  Do we have aspirations to win an All Ireland and National League titles, of course we do, otherwise we would not bet sitting here debating.

In the final analysis, are we prepared to give are all to the county, get behind the county hurling team, by that I mean, every club, every man, every woman and child?  Simple answer, we all dont really give a bollocks and are too quick to recriminate and make excuses as to why we perform so badly and don't progress.  :( >:(  Up until a few weeks ago, I thought we had progressed, but following last two weeks, I'm not so sure.  Kevin Ryan a nice guy but is he the messiah?  Regardless of who the messiah is, our clubs and top rate hurlers need to buy in and committ! Are we all prepared to do that, like fcuk we are!  :(  Is our focus stil on winning the county championship and maybe Ulster, of course it f**king is!  ::) ???  Do we all want to win a Tommy Moore, as opposed to a Liam McCarthey, of course we fcukin do!  :( ::)  Is this only a trait aligned to Loughgiel, of course it fcukin isn't!  We are all culpable, especially we in N. Antrim where hurling is concerned. We are divided, parochial and envious, with such a selfish outlook, as a county we will win feck all of any worth.  ??? ::)  The Staus Quo set to continue, nothin has changed. ::) :-[

So we want to progress and win, want to compete with the big boys, want to win an NL, Liam McCarthy???  Each hurling club within the county, give me your best 4, 5 or 6 players for a year, a full year or two and tell your club not to be making demands on them.  Are ye all prepared to do that?  No fcukin way!  ;) ;D >:( So stop the fcukin whinging and gurnin ffs!   

Now for my selection/back room team, hhmmm! Well none of ye hoors are on the short list for starters, now that is a relief and a positive.   ;) ;D 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 15, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
Sham Man if you were the manager what would your first 15 and nine subs be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 15, 2015, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2015, 08:02:23 PM
I'm trying not to get annoyed by that scoreline by consoling myself it doesn't matter anyway. But then I realisjng no matter how much of a boring repetitive procession our county season is - our club scene is still paralysed by it. Maybe therein lies the problem. Depressing. With a capital D.

club hurling in Antrim is soo second fiddle to county it is not funny. Hate drawing comparasions with soccer but like international matches (every 3 months clubs give up a week to allow two fixtures) County hurling is ment to be the cherry on top of the bun. A chance for the masses to put club differences aside and support a team for a common goal. But bollocks to that say the GAA too much money to be made matches all year round. If your kilkenny ( hurling) or say Dublin ( football) if you include the likes of walsh cup your county will be playing from Jan to September most years. Although a load of pish it will remain like this until some major root & branch overhaul. But the problem we have and to get back to my point is that our county board lets croke park master fixtures dictate our club scene. May not sound like a big problem but added to this squeezing in of fixtures, county managers not wanting players to play hardly any club league games the matches become a non competitive event in front of far less crowds than what used to be. People arnt stupid either ( supporters) they dont like going to watch barely meaningful club league games with half of a team missing for one reason or another.

A full flight league 3 divs (currently) playing week in week out is 450 lads hurling flat out add to that KR and selectors going to two three or four games in  a weekend insted of that extra day county training. And players with genuine belief that they could get picked and it wasnt a closed shop.

i just think our club scene has been ruined by the CB and croke park and the diff is in likes of Kk and other counties you just hurl away with club and none of this cotten wool treatment of calling all club games off for 6 months cause Antrim are playing a Translink select in a friendly. A strong club scene will lead to a stronger county set up thats the way it works though not the clubs priority ( countys and CB's take and never give why should club give a fcuk). We need to concentrate on fixing a dying and uncared for club programme and the county will benifit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 15, 2015, 11:56:14 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 15, 2015, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2015, 08:02:23 PM
I'm trying not to get annoyed by that scoreline by consoling myself it doesn't matter anyway. But then I realisjng no matter how much of a boring repetitive procession our county season is - our club scene is still paralysed by it. Maybe therein lies the problem. Depressing. With a capital D.

club hurling in Antrim is soo second fiddle to county it is not funny. Hate drawing comparasions with soccer but like international matches (every 3 months clubs give up a week to allow two fixtures) County hurling is ment to be the cherry on top of the bun. A chance for the masses to put club differences aside and support a team for a common goal. But bollocks to that say the GAA too much money to be made matches all year round. If your kilkenny ( hurling) or say Dublin ( football) if you include the likes of walsh cup your county will be playing from Jan to September most years. Although a load of pish it will remain like this until some major root & branch overhaul. But the problem we have and to get back to my point is that our county board lets croke park master fixtures dictate our club scene. May not sound like a big problem but added to this squeezing in of fixtures, county managers not wanting players to play hardly any club league games the matches become a non competitive event in front of far less crowds than what used to be. People arnt stupid either ( supporters) they dont like going to watch barely meaningful club league games with half of a team missing for one reason or another.

A full flight league 3 divs (currently) playing week in week out is 450 lads hurling flat out add to that KR and selectors going to two three or four games in  a weekend insted of that extra day county training. And players with genuine belief that they could get picked and it wasnt a closed shop.

i just think our club scene has been ruined by the CB and croke park and the diff is in likes of Kk and other counties you just hurl away with club and none of this cotten wool treatment of calling all club games off for 6 months cause Antrim are playing a Translink select in a friendly. A strong club scene will lead to a stronger county set up thats the way it works though not the clubs priority ( countys and CB's take and never give why should club give a fcuk). We need to concentrate on fixing a dying and uncared for club programme and the county will benifit
We dont have a strong club scene ffs.  maybe only 3 or 4 clubs in the county have the potential to win County Championship. See what I mean, you like many others are too quick to point fingers at CB ffs. The problem lies with the clubs not giving up their best to the inter county commitment. The clubs cant see beyond the needs of their own clubs and to hell with the county. Thats the cold hard truth Ffs. >:(  ::) We cant continue blaming the CB if we are all really honest.  ;)  The clubs at the end of the day all have a role to play no matter which way you look at it, are they prepared to commit in search of the greater prize and good of county hurling??? - No fcukin way. >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 09:42:19 AM
i was chatting to a lgiel man at the weekend about hurling and the topic of the the county team came up. The fist thing he came out with was 'oh you you mean the neill mc manus show? sure he picks the team and decides who gets on the panel' i could only laugh at this. he doesnt post on here by the way but i have to laugh at this carry on.

i have mates from Ballycastle etc and not once in my life have i heard anyone utter that other than a lgiel person. seriously tho, its actually laughable to hear the statements he was coming out with. Yous need to get over this people! lol

Sundays result was inevitable imo. I kind of seen it coming after last weeks game. The players look knocked of any spirit they had after the wexford match which is a pity. We all know we wont win this league, we wont be pushing the elite teams for a result but its about being competitive. Last week showed me that were nothing more than top second level team (outside of the tops teams like KK, Tipp etc). Were far too strong for the carlows, down at the moment but not good enough to compete with the big teams.

Theres no quick fix to sort it out. A competitive club scene wont change a thing. In 89 Loughgiel were champions, Rossa lost the AI club final the Feb that year, Ligiel had 5 players on the team, Ballycastle 4, Cdall 3, Rossa 2 and Dunloy 1. Nothing has changed in the status quo much with the same teams winning and competing in the Antrim SHC. I would say that the decline of the Belfast teams is something i feel needs to be looked at. Yes Rossa won the AI at Intermediate level but the challenge is to make the jump back up and stay competitive.

Things have been on the decline for some time now and it was highlighted to me with St Pauls not fielding a senior camogie team in the league. Last year they didnt even field in the championship. Its not isolated to Belfast with now Ballymena struggling to field in hurling now at alot of the grades.

there is no obvious way of fixing Antrim, i just think we need to keep coaching our youth better and better each year, working with the devlopment squads and aim to improve all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

SG i heard the exact same story at the weekend from my mates dad (whom i was referring to in my previous post) when Eddies name not being in the panel anymore came up.

im not saying your a liar (or my mates dad for that matter) but are you honestly telling me that as a collective group of players the antrim senior team would accept one man calling all the shots. A group of adults who have no affinity to each others clubs, that not one of them has an opinion on it.

Look it may very well be true but do you know how crazy it sounds to someone?

Im going to have to ask someone on the panel to settle this story!  ;D



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Why would anyone other than Eddie, KR the vice captain and captain no?   Facts are facts. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

Was that it?  Was that the big fact you were asking us to learn?  SG that's embarrassing. Any player who is good enough and wants to be there enough will be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

Purely a case of Antrim with a lot of internal baggage as ever,of which the Team Manager-KR, was not prepared to assert his authority and deal with.  :-[  No one individual/s is bigger than the team.  KR and nobody else should have called the shots, if players walked, so be it.  Those who walk, I would certainly question their commitment and integrity!  >:( :( ::) ??? :-[  All the talk about Loughgiel lads, well its a known fact it was not a welcoming house for them on their return from AI victory, in my book, that's pure envy, nothing more and nothing less.  ;)  Regardless, its a sad state of affairs for all Antrim hurling people.  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Why would anyone other than Eddie, KR the vice captain and captain no?   Facts are facts.

eh so 4 people associated with the panel and the whole of Loughgiel village all know about it then!

You also say the vice captain is a lgiel man. How in gods name could they stand over that happening and not walk off the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

Was that it?  Was that the big fact you were asking us to learn?  SG that's embarrassing. Any player who is good enough and wants to be there enough will be there.
so what was he to do. Turn up at training after being told not to?  Away and wise your fecking head.  I've a few more if you'd like them. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:56:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Why would anyone other than Eddie, KR the vice captain and captain no?   Facts are facts.

eh so 4 people associated with the panel and the whole of Loughgiel village all know about it then!

You also say the vice captain is a lgiel man. How in gods name could they stand over that happening and not walk off the panel?
tell you what it was.  We sat at the last AGM and came up with this. We're caught.   ??? FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

Was that it?  Was that the big fact you were asking us to learn?  SG that's embarrassing. Any player who is good enough and wants to be there enough will be there.
so what was he to do. Turn up at training after being told not to?  Away and wise your fecking head.  I've a few more if you'd like them.
Hi SG and DR.

This debate is serving no one, let it rest. Exactly the sort of thing that impacts on continued division and resentment. Nobody is going to win this battle, the sad reality is, we have serious division and an unwillingness to engage in a cohesive and collaborative approach to out hurling ills!  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 16, 2015, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Why would anyone other than Eddie, KR the vice captain and captain no?   Facts are facts.

eh so 4 people associated with the panel and the whole of Loughgiel village all know about it then!

You also say the vice captain is a lgiel man. How in gods name could they stand over that happening and not walk off the panel?

Depends if KR spoke to the captain and vice captain together or at separate times.

Certainly its unhealthy in a squad of players to think that certain players have the ear of the manager and can only bring unrest, I'm sure KR would be a bit wiser than that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
It's loughgiels fault.  Sorry for winning championships and trying to do well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Did I not say away and learn the facts.  A certain player was asked to his face back onto the panel last year by KR after meeting him at a cross and passion collage semi final "Id love to have you back for reminder of league and the ulster championship"  the player said he would go back and only ever wanted to hurl for his county, but with being training for all ireland with Loughgiel as past few years he couldn't commit fully to both. Now they were out. He was ready to go.  The player and KR agreed to see each other at the next training.  The player went on his way. Landed home that night to be told KR was on the phone. And to call him.  Sure enough. He called him.  "After speaking with my captain and vice captain (who was a Loughgiel man) We've decided it's best if you don't join having not been there from the start.   Now will you tell me.  How it went from KR being more than happy to have him back and was looking forward to training.  To it being a bad idea?  Id say his own club mate Prob didn't want him there.  Right???? :o ???

Was that it?  Was that the big fact you were asking us to learn?  SG that's embarrassing. Any player who is good enough and wants to be there enough will be there.
so what was he to do. Turn up at training after being told not to?  Away and wise your fecking head.  I've a few more if you'd like them.
Hi SG and DR.

This debate is serving no one, let it rest. Exactly the sort of thing that impacts on continued division and resentment. Nobody is going to win this battle, the sad reality is, we have serious division and an unwillingness to engage in a cohesive and collaborative approach to out hurling ills!  :-X

Good for you Sham Man. Bringing a bit of sense to proceedings. I can't believe people are engaging SG on this one. Anyone who really wants to commit to county and has the ability will be there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
It's loughgiels fault.  Sorry for winning championships and trying to do well
Yeah correct, its Loughgiels fault for winning!

While some can embrace and applaud the Shams AI achievement, regrettably there are others who cannot, that's fact!

Of course it has caused embitterment, a very Irish trait and characteristic when someone wins something or does well.   Some just find it too difficult to stomach.  All part of our inherent problem of division and resentment which continues to haunt us all.  Until we address this issue, especially in N. Antrim, we are going nowhere! :( ::) :'( The KR's of this world and others like him have no magic wand which will make this innate issue go away!  ;) :(

Parochial fragmentation is alive within us all and our clubs, therein lies the core problem!  ::) end of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other twats were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 11:26:07 AM
I have nothing more than a healthy rivalry towards the other antrim clubs. Im not jealous of one single club in the county for what they have achieved or what facilities they have. I never begrudged any club winning or improving their facilties. Why should i.

anyway i find that whole story daft every time i hear it. Hey, if its true then its poor as hell but i cant for the life of me accept a fellow club man would stand there and agree with that decision and back it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also

Have yous got a manager in place for the season yet? i think you will retain your place this year, fancy Cloney to go down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 11:36:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also
FFs, Waldorf, we know its your thread but others have opinions which need aired! The sooner you realise you are not an authority on everything the better for everyone.  ;)  You should focus on your own club problems firstly before dipping yer oar in, are you running for the managers job again??  ;) ::)  Or have you been outed once more, eh???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also

Have yous got a manager in place for the season yet? i think you will retain your place this year, fancy Cloney to go down

We've new manager in place, a clubman from way back, has been out of the scene a bit but hopefully we can now string together some training sessions and get ready for League
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 11:36:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also
FFs, Waldorf, we know its your thread but others have opinions which need aired! The sooner you realise you are not an authority on everything the better for everyone.  ;)  You should focus on your own club problems firstly before dipping yer oar in, are you running for the managers job again??  ;) ::)  Or have you been outed once more, eh???

Outted? For starters you've been well outted on here, I'd say most of the posters know your name by now, as for my club, manager in place. I've served my time for the club, have you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also

Have yous got a manager in place for the season yet? i think you will retain your place this year, fancy Cloney to go down

We've new manager in place, a clubman from way back, has been out of the scene a bit but hopefully we can now string together some training sessions and get ready for League
A real St. Galls hurling man by all accounts - (A. McG) - but you would have to question is he up to speed on modern skills, tactics, drills, game plans and current day man management etc. ??  But I am sure the learned one (Waldorf) would always help him out and keep him right??  :-[ ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I've never read so much shite on this board since bogash and his other t**ts were on, seriously?? Was the scoreline that much different to what was expected? Possibly 8 points more but that's the difference between the big teams and the cannon fodder.

Get over yourselves and stop the siege mentality, not a ball struck in anger in the league yet ffs and all hell broke loose here..

Cushendall to improve on last year and win the championship. Loughgiel rebuilding Dunloy staying the same and Ballycastle likewise.... As for the lower whack... Johnnies be the strongest followed by Rossa. We'll drop due to changes in team, retirements and age unfortunately. Ports may improve from last year but I doubt it, they finally got their last shot at glory, probably few retirements there also

Have yous got a manager in place for the season yet? i think you will retain your place this year, fancy Cloney to go down

We've new manager in place, a clubman from way back, has been out of the scene a bit but hopefully we can now string together some training sessions and get ready for League
A real St. Galls hurling man by all accounts - (A. McG) - but you would have to question is he up to speed on modern skills, tactics, drills, game plans and current day man management etc. ??  But I am sure the learned one (Waldorf) would always help him out and keep him right??  :-[ ??

Not for me to question or advise, he's his own man so he'll make his own decisions, that's how managers work, but you'd know that, obviously you've taken teams within your club?😆
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Listen anyone who knows me or anyone who reads posts on here knows I want to see my county do well and I get extremely annoyed about the state were in at present.  Someone posted about there being the best talent to have came through as past few years on the county panel.  This is true with the exception of maybe 4 or 5 players.  There's nothing I want more than the county to be competitive.  Why would I make such things up?  HS I never once said that the club mate and vice captain agreed with it. They were both called and asked.  The vice captain had no problem obviously. And then the player in question was called after being told he was wanted back. And told he wasn't wanted back.  Now I no, deep down where it came from. As does eddie. As does anyone who wants to be honest.  Am over it. But this, and a few other things that all add up is a big factor in the reason the county is in the state it's in.  In my opinion. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Sham Man what's your county line up. I have a massive respect for the Shamrocks as a club and no axe to grind here with anyone. You make some good points but you come across as a Shamrocks ultra. If you put on your subjective Antrim hat for a minute, what would be your ideal matchday panel of 24. Because that's exactly what KR needs to do.

I can't wait to see who dosent make it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Listen anyone who knows me or anyone who reads posts on here knows I want to see my county do well and I get extremely annoyed about the state were in at present.  Someone posted about there being the best talent to have came through as past few years on the county panel.  This is true with the exception of maybe 4 or 5 players.  There's nothing I want more than the county to be competitive.  Why would I make such things up?  HS I never once said that the club mate and vice captain agreed with it. They were both called and asked.  The vice captain had no problem obviously. And then the player in question was called after being told he was wanted back. And told he wasn't wanted back.  Now I no, deep down where it came from. As does eddie. As does anyone who wants to be honest.  Am over it. But this, and a few other things that all add up is a big factor in the reason the county is in the state it's in.  In my opinion.

It was DR you were having the captain/vice captain debate with. Read back over the posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
Apologies.  You have me all flustered  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 16, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Think it's about time use all got real! If the cdall and lgiel men were all best buds would it have made a big difference yesterday? The answer is no! We've been gettin hammered by Waterford anytime we've played them for years. Same with Limerick and the rest of the top teams. And just out of interest who are the other players that aren't on the panel that should be? Winker and Eddie but after that there's not too many of better standard than what's there already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
What's carl Stewart's story MR2.   Very talented man to not have involved?   No st galls men on it I think. Open to correction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 16, 2015, 02:12:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
What's carl Stewart's story MR2.   Very talented man to not have involved?   No st galls men on it I think. Open to correction.

Jackson McGreevy was a sub yesterday. Would imagine it's too big a stretch with the commitment involved when you are married with kids.

It's a (very) young mans game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Listen anyone who knows me or anyone who reads posts on here knows I want to see my county do well and I get extremely annoyed about the state were in at present.  Someone posted about there being the best talent to have came through as past few years on the county panel.  This is true with the exception of maybe 4 or 5 players.  There's nothing I want more than the county to be competitive.  Why would I make such things up?  HS I never once said that the club mate and vice captain agreed with it. They were both called and asked.  The vice captain had no problem obviously. And then the player in question was called after being told he was wanted back. And told he wasn't wanted back.  Now I no, deep down where it came from. As does eddie. As does anyone who wants to be honest.  Am over it. But this, and a few other things that all add up is a big factor in the reason the county is in the state it's in.  In my opinion.

I  know eddie as well and have nothing but admiration for his talents, i wish he was playing for Antrim as hes the best forward Loughgiel have and one of the best in Antrim. Hell i wish he hurled for Dunloy! lol

But all of this is nothing to do with our senior teams currently form. I cant see any light at the end at the moment for them. Its a case of same old same old this year again sadly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 02:15:00 PM
Corrected I stand. Your right.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Wonder what KR makes of Antrim now. Is he saying to himself (A) I think we can still be a top four team, or (B) What the hell am I doing here this is starting to go backwards at a rate of knots.

Has the KR bubble burst? And if it has how much of it is his fault and how much of it is outside his influence or control?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
Id say the handful of thousands hes getting. He'll hardly loose much sleep over it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Honestly? we dont have the players esp in the forwards. up front you have shorty and with the greatest respect to the others they havent counted at county level. Its not a club bias thing rather from watching antrim over the past few seasons hes been our stand out forward. Neill McManus has reverted between half back, midfield and the forwards alot this past while and i think hes best served as a forward for Antrim. PJ has been pretty decent as well but he can disappear in a game like against Limerick.

Good forwards make the scoring chances themselves if the teams struggling and we dont have enough of that. The other week v Laois shane McNaughton came on and ballooned 2 in a row wide that a good team would have punished. Thats the difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Sure we will start into another 3 year plan, get everyone really happy and anyone who isnt on the panel automatically doesn't want to be there and has commitment issues. Right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 03:13:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 16, 2015, 03:08:29 PM
Honestly? we dont have the players esp in the forwards. up front you have shorty and with the greatest respect to the others they havent counted at county level. Its not a club bias thing rather from watching antrim over the past few seasons hes been our stand out forward. Neill McManus has reverted between half back, midfield and the forwards alot this past while and i think hes best served as a forward for Antrim. PJ has been pretty decent as well but he can disappear in a game like against Limerick.

Good forwards make the scoring chances themselves if the teams struggling and we dont have enough of that. The other week v Laois shane McNaughton came on and ballooned 2 in a row wide that a good team would have punished. Thats the difference.
for me he's most dangerous in full forward.  Shane back also.  Added to shorty Clarke pj. Eddie if there.  Watson if there. ( Prob won't ever be there)  that would be pretty class to see that forward line up,  pace skill the lot. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 03:22:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
What's carl Stewart's story MR2.   Very talented man to not have involved?   No st galls men on it I think. Open to correction.

Tomas O'ciaran of Naomh Gall has come on as a sub in the last 2 games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
young mc naughton from Lgiel gets abit older he will be a serious operator. Hes unreal and looks a serious talent for senior level.

Hes the sort of kid along with Christy McNaughton from Cdall  we need in our forwards. Natural scoring ability, greedy and ambitious to make their own scores yet smart enough to see movement around them.

The young lads from Rossa also look like great propects for senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
Can't wait to see christy at senior level.  I do think he'll be a full forward tho.  Young mc naughton in Loughgiel is well thought of alright. One for the future.   If rossa can push on any from there success it bodes well for them as a club and hopefully Belfast and antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 16, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
Other than the two Johnstons, have St Johns not got any young talent from those underage teams that were beating all before them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
was wondering that myself. you would think with all those players they had that more would have progressed into the county set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 16, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
off topic question but where do carnlough play their camogie matches at? is it up at Glenarm?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Sham Man what's your county line up. I have a massive respect for the Shamrocks as a club and no axe to grind here with anyone. You make some good points but you come across as a Shamrocks ultra. If you put on your subjective Antrim hat for a minute, what would be your ideal matchday panel of 24. Because that's exactly what KR needs to do.

I can't wait to see who dosent make it.
If I am permitted by Waldorf (commonly known as Reebok and a Tout - not my words, but that of others) of course, I hear he is the axe man around here, probably the one who is having me watched?? He is quite deluded if truth be known!  ;) ;)  But you still need to watch your P's &Q's if you know what I mean.

Well, to kick off not a lot to pick from and wouldnae be much different what is currently fielding for Antrim, but a few positional personnel/positional changes,and providing everyone made themselves available??  Not a lot to pick from all the same!  :(

1. DD or Chrissy

2. Odhran McFadden
3. Neal McAuley (if not young Hippie) and move Neal to centre half.  Move McManus No. 7 behind the middle of the park.   McManus and Graffin interchanging behind the mid-filed.
4. Conor McKinley

5. A. Graffin
6. Neil McManus
7. Simon McCrory

8. Jackson McGreevy (??)
9. Ciaran Johnston

10.Tomas McCann
11. Paul Shiels
12. Eddie McCloskey

13. Benny McCarry (??)
14. P.J. O'Connell
15. Ciaran Clarke


16. Conor Johnston
17. Mattie Donnelly
18. Shane McNaughton
19. Dan McCloskey
20. Tomas O'Ciaran
21. Rosaa (the names escape me at present)
22. Rossa
23. A. N. other
24. A. N. other


Oh the Reebok question, I hear you say???  Well he known to run like fcuk when things got hot and heavey.  ;D :D ;) ;)  Sure to get a rise here  ;D.  Probably my last contributing post if he is true to form??


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 06:02:22 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Sham Man what's your county line up. I have a massive respect for the Shamrocks as a club and no axe to grind here with anyone. You make some good points but you come across as a Shamrocks ultra. If you put on your subjective Antrim hat for a minute, what would be your ideal matchday panel of 24. Because that's exactly what KR needs to do.

I can't wait to see who dosent make it.
If I am permitted by Waldorf (commonly known as Reebok and a Tout - not my words, but that of others) of course, I hear he is the axe man around here, probably the one who is having me watched?? He is quite deluded if truth be known!  ;) ;)  But you still need to watch your P's &Q's if you know what I mean.

Well, to kick off not a lot to pick from and wouldnae be much different what is currently fielding for Antrim, but a few positional personnel/positional changes,and providing everyone made themselves available??  Not a lot to pick from all the same!  :(

1. DD or Chrissy

2. Odhran McFadden
3. Neal McAuley (if not young Hippie) and move Neal to centre half.  Move McManus No. 7 behind the middle of the park.
4. Conor McKinley

5. A. Graffin
6. Neil McManus
7. Simon McCrory

8. Jackson McGreevy (??)
9. Ciaran Johnston

10.Tomas McCann
11. Paul Shiels
12. Eddie McCloskey

13. Benny McCarry (??)
14. P.J. O'Connell
15. Ciaran Clarke


16. Conor Johnston
17. Mattie Donnelly
18. Shane McNaughton
19. Dan McCloskey
20. Tomas O'Ciaran
21. Rosaa (the names escape me at present)
22. Rossa
23. A. N. other
24. A. N. other


Oh the Reebok question, I hear you say???  Well he known to run like fcuk when things got hot and heavey.  ;D :D ;) ;)  Sure to get a rise here  ;D.

More crap.. Doesn't take you long for the mask to drop. So again I'll ask what have you done for your club? Whatever club that may be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 06:53:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 06:02:22 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 16, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Sham Man what's your county line up. I have a massive respect for the Shamrocks as a club and no axe to grind here with anyone. You make some good points but you come across as a Shamrocks ultra. If you put on your subjective Antrim hat for a minute, what would be your ideal matchday panel of 24. Because that's exactly what KR needs to do.

I can't wait to see who dosent make it.
If I am permitted by Waldorf (commonly known as Reebok and a Tout - not my words, but that of others) of course, I hear he is the axe man around here, probably the one who is having me watched?? He is quite deluded if truth be known!  ;) ;)  But you still need to watch your P's &Q's if you know what I mean.

Well, to kick off not a lot to pick from and wouldnae be much different what is currently fielding for Antrim, but a few positional personnel/positional changes,and providing everyone made themselves available??  Not a lot to pick from all the same!  :(

1. DD or Chrissy

2. Odhran McFadden
3. Neal McAuley (if not young Hippie) and move Neal to centre half.  Move McManus No. 7 behind the middle of the park.
4. Conor McKinley

5. A. Graffin
6. Neil McManus
7. Simon McCrory

8. Jackson McGreevy (??)
9. Ciaran Johnston

10.Tomas McCann
11. Paul Shiels
12. Eddie McCloskey

13. Benny McCarry (??)
14. P.J. O'Connell
15. Ciaran Clarke


16. Conor Johnston
17. Mattie Donnelly
18. Shane McNaughton
19. Dan McCloskey
20. Tomas O'Ciaran
21. Rosaa (the names escape me at present)
22. Rossa
23. A. N. other
24. A. N. other


Oh the Reebok question, I hear you say???  Well he known to run like fcuk when things got hot and heavey.  ;D :D ;) ;)  Sure to get a rise here  ;D.

More crap.. Doesn't take you long for the mask to drop. So again I'll ask what have you done for your club? Whatever club that may be?
Wat the fcuk you on about, so everbody talks crap/shite but you, ur fckin hilarious man!  :-[  Sure if you know who I am you would know what club I am with??  No odds to me who or who does not know my identity and bone fides/credentials, I've nothing to prove but u obviously have by the sound of ye!  FFS take a wisener and accept difference of opinion. ::) ??? >:( ;)  Tolerance is an admirable virtue, you should show some to those who have a different slant on things and who also like a bit of a laugh.  ;D ???  What mask are ya talkin about, I am quite prepared to say who I am, nothing to hide, nothing to be ashamed of!  ;) :)  Remember, no one died in making this post.   Well back to the pints of Guinness, see ya in Croker tomorrow maybe, working down here this week and next so quite handy.  ;D ;D ;D happy days!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 07:27:37 PM
I don't nor haven't let on what club I'm from or who I am... You have, many times under different names but then tell me to take a 'wisner?' Whatever that means... And nowhere have I said I don't talk crap, but like you I have opinion and you are full of crap. If you had a set you'd actually state your club close your account open up another one and be a real person for a change.

Serious chip on shoulder, you need to relax a little. Tout? Rebook? Are you 11?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 16, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
My Antrim team if everyone was injury free, committed and toed the line

Chris o Connell

Ryan McCambridge
Cormac Donnelly
Aaron Graffin

Neal McAuley
Conor McKinley
Kevin Molloy

Ciaran Johnson
Mark McFadden

Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Paul Shiels

Ciaran Clarke
Liam Watson
Shane McNaughton

Ryan McGarry
Michael Bradley
Odhran McFadden
Stephen Shannon
Simon mccrory
Conor mcclelland
Jackson McGreevy
Eoghan Campbell
Tony McCloskey
Stephen McAfee
PJ o Connell
Shea Casey
Dan McCloskey
Conor Carson
Saul McCaughan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 16, 2015, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on March 16, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
My Antrim team if everyone was injury free, committed and toed the line

Chris o Connell

Ryan McCambridge
Cormac Donnelly
Aaron Graffin

Neal McAuley
Conor McKinley
Kevin Molloy

Ciaran Johnson
Mark McFadden

Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Paul Shiels

Ciaran Clarke
Liam Watson
Shane McNaughton

Ryan McGarry
Michael Bradley
Odhran McFadden
Stephen Shannon
Simon mccrory
Conor mcclelland
Jackson McGreevy
Eoghan Campbell
Tony McCloskey
Stephen McAfee
PJ o Connell
Shea Casey
Dan McCloskey
Conor Carson
Saul McCaughan

Can't argue toomuch with that team there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on March 16, 2015, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on March 16, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
My Antrim team if everyone was injury free, committed and toed the line

Chris o Connell

Ryan McCambridge
Cormac Donnelly
Aaron Graffin

Neal McAuley
Conor McKinley
Kevin Molloy

Ciaran Johnson
Mark McFadden

Eddie McCloskey
Neil McManus
Paul Shiels

Ciaran Clarke
Liam Watson
Shane McNaughton

Ryan McGarry
Michael Bradley
Odhran McFadden
Stephen Shannon
Simon mccrory
Conor mcclelland
Jackson McGreevy
Eoghan Campbell
Tony McCloskey
Stephen McAfee
PJ o Connell
Shea Casey
Dan McCloskey
Conor Carson
Saul McCaughan

Can't argue toomuch with that team there!

It saddens me that we can't get a team like that out!!!  Benny McCarry, Nigel Elliott too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 16, 2015, 10:14:24 PM
Forgot about them! But every county is in the same boat as well. In Kilkenny I'm sure there's good hurlers who would make the county team but can't commit for one reason or another or is a bit of a loose cannon etc.  The way people are talkin on here you'd think we were the only ones with problems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
I still think Neil Mc Garry has something to offer the county set up.  Could free up mc auley to move into wing or center half.  He's doing a great job where he is. But think he's top class on the wing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 16, 2015, 10:30:14 PM
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Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
I still think Neil Mc Garry has something to offer the county set up.  Could free up mc auley to move into wing or center half.  He's doing a great job where he is. But think he's top class on the wing


Excellent full back gives very little away. But I think he's struggled with his back the past couple of years so I can't see him making return if he was asked. Would prefer mcauley in the half back line sending the ball into the forwards think he's wasted in full back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 10:47:21 PM
I do myself. top man with the ball in his hand. 9/10 times the right ball is going in. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D

That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2015, 11:58:42 PM
Some forward line there Hurling Stick. How long you think PJ will hang about as number 26 not even on the matchday  programme.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 17, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
Sorry H'S that last post should have been directed to the dog 83 who picked the team even tho you agreed with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2015, 12:48:16 AM
Put simply suffice to say dog's team would give the current one a tanking.
That's an indictment of our set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 17, 2015, 07:10:00 AM
I repeat

If all the whingers would give their clubs 3 or 4 hours a week helping to coach teams, Antrim would twice as strong as it is now. Unfortunately we lack the critical mass needed to make proper headway but let's not be homing in on the committed few when we're looking for people to blame. It's all the people who aren't there but could be who shoulder the blame IMO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2015, 08:32:35 AM
Happy St. Patrick's day lads. Go easy on the black stuff. First time in years I'll not be in Dublin. I'm looking forward to watching both games today. I think the hurling has all the makings of a potential upset. I fancy Kilmallock to win by at least two points. And good luck to Slaughtneil. Great club with a brilliant set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
Enjoy your day SIE.
No black stuff me for on the road from dungarvan to Croke to belfast.
For once an occasional interest in the big ball and don't think the hurling will be a foregone conclusion either.
I think at club level a lot depends of reactions to Croke Park.
Two good games and not to cold hopefully. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 10:24:56 AM
Ballyhale +5 if TJ is allowed to roam about the pitch and pick off his scores, he won't miss the frees either, Killmallock are a little bit abrasive and may lose a player, the Kilkenny lads are just that bit cuter in their play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 17, 2015, 11:02:45 AM
Have not been on in a while so forgive me for being a bit behind the times.

On the Eddie McCloskey topic I think the previous summer was handled poorly and if what SG says is true it is absolutely disgraceful. However he was given the chance this year and despite commiting to the team for 5/6months decided to go and play soccer rather than attend training. So I dont think there can be much argument there.

The best Antrim panels being posted on here are pretty poor IMO. So here goes....

1. DD

2.Ryan McCambridge
3. Matthew Donnelly
4. Aaron Graffin

5.Sean Shannon
6. Neal McAuley
7. Neal McManus

8. Ciaran Johnston
9. Eoghan Campbell

10. Paul Shiels
11. Chris McGuinness
12. Michael Armstrong

13. PJ O'Connell
14. Laim Watson
15. Ciaran Clarke/Conor Johnston

16. Chris O'Connell
17. Eddie McCloskey
18. Kevin Molloy
19. Conor McKinley
20. Conor McCann
21. Michael Bradley
22. Jackson McGreevy
23. James Black
24. Stephen McAfee

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on March 17, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Also I completely agree that it is time Johnston got a fair crack of the whip in the Antrim job. He did a fantastic job with Armagh and is now starting to make progress with Down. (could be an interesting relegation play-off if that came about)

And although it is a pipe dream due to lack of clubs and numbers I think an Antrim B squad could help out big time. I know at our club the difference training with the county whether as part of the senior panel or as an U21 player there to make up training numbers has had is noticeable. It would not be as intense as the main county set up but would work on developing players who are not quite at senior level but with the correct training would be.

The type of players I see this benefiting are the likes of Niall McKenna, Dan McKiernan, Michial Dudley, Ciaran Orchin, Conor Laverty, Paddy Burke, Nigel Elliot, Eoin McAloanan, Tomas O'Ciaran, James O'Connell, James McShane,  Fergus Donnelly, Connall Morgan, Stephen Beatty, Mickey Devlin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 17, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on March 17, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Also I completely agree that it is time Johnston got a fair crack of the whip in the Antrim job. He did a fantastic job with Armagh and is now starting to make progress with Down. (could be an interesting relegation play-off if that came about)

And although it is a pipe dream due to lack of clubs and numbers I think an Antrim B squad could help out big time. I know at our club the difference training with the county whether as part of the senior panel or as an U21 player there to make up training numbers has had is noticeable. It would not be as intense as the main county set up but would work on developing players who are not quite at senior level but with the correct training would be.

The type of players I see this benefiting are the likes of Niall McKenna, Dan McKiernan, Michial Dudley, Ciaran Orchin, Conor Laverty, Paddy Burke, Nigel Elliot, Eoin McAloanan, Tomas O'Ciaran, James O'Connell, James McShane,  Fergus Donnelly, Connall Morgan, Stephen Beatty, Mickey Devlin

Word is Mickey J is a good coach according to the lads I've been talking to, but there's already been questions over their team selections and positioning of players and TBH we've been pretty insipid in most of the matches to date and have only put the likes of Armagh and Donegal away in the last phases of the games.

I wouldn't be rushing him in just yet!

Oh,
    Down are in Div2B and can't be playing Antrim any time soon. Div2A is in the road!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
Ballyhale or Kilmallock? They scored 25 and 23 points in their semi finals. However doing so against Gort would have to give Ballyhale the edge!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
Kilmallock lobbing in too many high balls and shooting from too far out. Ballyhale doing enough to be in front. A major change in strategy needed from the limerick men.

Joey Holden the best player on the field in that half for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 17, 2015, 02:50:58 PM
Ballyhale's forwards tackle so well and make it difficult for the Kilmallock defenders to play the ball out. That's the big thing I would take from this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2015, 02:54:51 PM
That and the "hit and hope" from Kilmallock's midfield and half backs. There seems to be no plan b.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 17, 2015, 03:14:20 PM
I think Johnston talk is clutching at straws.
What has he actually achieved with the many teams he has coached?
How many of his management spells have involved conflict?
Speaking to St John's men I believe they know "their own" (?) best and his cv doesn't inspire me.

Match has ebbed out here I thinkk the amount of croke park experience in Ballyhale is a massive factor. Holden has been excellent. Never much doubt but credit kilmallock efforts and great support.

Slaughtneil have big numbers here also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D

That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Ur so fcukin predictable Waldorf man, always take the rise, and for some one who does not give a bollocks, fcukin amazin!  ;D ;D ;D.

Sure we all talk crap at times you included, difference is, you think you are the end all and be all of everything hurling and everyone would listen to you. ::)  IMO, ur a wannabe, a hasbeen but with enough good sense not to get involved in a good hurling club, thats where you would get really caught out and be found wanting.  ;) ::) :-[

As regards the team I selected, as I said, not a lot to chose from and was dependent on a few probables like Benny and Jackson.  >:( >:(  The only saving grace is you will not be near any Antrim team, which is a relief and a blessing.  :-[ ;D  The word is, on a big stage and following defeat, your easy option is to walk away - least said! ;D :o ::)

Well just collected me winnings from Paddy Power, Shamrocks and Corofin done the business as I expected! Happy days!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been made aware of who you are, he he he  :D  Sure you have no pedigree at all, a total opportunist I hear?   :-[ :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2015, 06:00:03 PM
Both games a non entity at the end up. Extremely disappointing for the players who gave their all to get there. But a great achievement getting there in the first place. It just shows how hard it is to win an all Ireland club title as the underdog.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D

That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Ur so fcukin predictable Waldorf man, always take the rise, and for some one who does not give a bollocks, fcukin amazin!  ;D ;D ;D.

Sure we all talk crap at times you included, difference is, you think you are the end all and be all of everything hurling and everyone would listen to you. ::)  IMO, ur a wannabe, a hasbeen but with enough good sense not to get involved in a good hurling club, thats where you would get really caught out and be found wanting.  ;) ::) :-[

As regards the team I selected, as I said, not a lot to chose from and was dependent on a few probables like Benny and Jackson.  >:( >:(  The only saving grace is you will not be near any Antrim team, which is a relief and a blessing.  :-[ ;D  The word is, on a big stage and following defeat, your easy option is to walk away - least said! ;D :o ::)

Well just collected me winnings from Paddy Power, Shamrocks and Corofin done the business as I expected! Happy days!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been made aware of who you are, he he he  :D  Sure you have no pedigree at all, a total opportunist I hear?   :-[ :-X

So you still haven't grown a set and actually said what club you are from and any teams you have taken? Obviously knowing who you are then I know you are full of shit lol... Now run along , no doubt see you this year lol

Ps don't keep claiming to be from Loughgiel, wally
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:08:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 17, 2015, 03:14:20 PM
I think Johnston talk is clutching at straws.
What has he actually achieved with the many teams he has coached?
How many of his management spells have involved conflict?
Speaking to St John's men I believe they know "their own" (?) best and his cv doesn't inspire me.

Match has ebbed out here I thinkk the amount of croke park experience in Ballyhale is a massive factor. Holden has been excellent. Never much doubt but credit kilmallock efforts and great support.

Slaughtneil have big numbers here also.
I could not agree more btdtgtt, Johnston an other opportunist with no pedigree. ::) ::)  Tends to court controversy and disharmony, just like the MR2 Muppett.  ???  Ollie Bellew is a good lad and should get a good grounding under KR, he could be one for the future. ;) ;D ;D  A level headed, committed and well grounded individual and knows his hurling so much more that the great pretenders around here.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D
That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Ur so fcukin predictable Waldorf man, always take the rise, and for some one who does not give a bollocks, fcukin amazin!  ;D ;D ;D.

Sure we all talk crap at times you included, difference is, you think you are the end all and be all of everything hurling and everyone would listen to you. ::)  IMO, ur a wannabe, a hasbeen but with enough good sense not to get involved in a good hurling club, thats where you would get really caught out and be found wanting.  ;) ::) :-[

As regards the team I selected, as I said, not a lot to chose from and was dependent on a few probables like Benny and Jackson.  >:( >:(  The only saving grace is you will not be near any Antrim team, which is a relief and a blessing.  :-[ ;D  The word is, on a big stage and following defeat, your easy option is to walk away - least said! ;D :o ::)

Well just collected me winnings from Paddy Power, Shamrocks and Corofin done the business as I expected! Happy days!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been made aware of who you are, he he he  :D  Sure you have no pedigree at all, a total opportunist I hear?   :-[ :-X

So you still haven't grown a set and actually said what club you are from and any teams you have taken? Obviously knowing who you are then I know you are full of shit lol... Now run along , no doubt see you this year lol

Ps don't keep claiming to be from Loughgiel, wally
There you go again Waldorf, persistent sort of an idiot aren't you!  Just dont know when to back off.   ;D :-[  What's this crap about growing a pair?  Well Reebok, I'm not beholding to you or anyone here and don't give a toss who or what you think I am.  ;) :-[  Think I'll put you on my ignore list, your such an empty! :-[ ::) ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D
That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Ur so fcukin predictable Waldorf man, always take the rise, and for some one who does not give a bollocks, fcukin amazin!  ;D ;D ;D.

Sure we all talk crap at times you included, difference is, you think you are the end all and be all of everything hurling and everyone would listen to you. ::)  IMO, ur a wannabe, a hasbeen but with enough good sense not to get involved in a good hurling club, thats where you would get really caught out and be found wanting.  ;) ::) :-[

As regards the team I selected, as I said, not a lot to chose from and was dependent on a few probables like Benny and Jackson.  >:( >:(  The only saving grace is you will not be near any Antrim team, which is a relief and a blessing.  :-[ ;D  The word is, on a big stage and following defeat, your easy option is to walk away - least said! ;D :o ::)

Well just collected me winnings from Paddy Power, Shamrocks and Corofin done the business as I expected! Happy days!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been made aware of who you are, he he he  :D  Sure you have no pedigree at all, a total opportunist I hear?   :-[ :-X

So you still haven't grown a set and actually said what club you are from and any teams you have taken? Obviously knowing who you are then I know you are full of shit lol... Now run along , no doubt see you this year lol

Ps don't keep claiming to be from Loughgiel, wally
There you go again Waldorf, persistent sort of an idiot aren't you!  Just dont know when to back off.   ;D :-[  What's this crap about growing a pair?  Well Reebok, I'm not beholding to you or anyone here and don't give a toss who or what you think I am.  ;) :-[  Think I'll put you on my ignore list, your such an empty! :-[ ::) ???


Empty?? Ha ha. You have done nowt of any note, barfly material lol. You'd be better putting some of your 'knowledge' into ladies football.. That be about your scene around the SW
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:29:42 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 16, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Safe to say he's no shamrock is our Kevin  ;D
Got it one SG, Kevin that's me, your'e right.  ;) Sure last week I was accused of being P. Webb, week before that was S Quinn, whoever the fcuk they are?? I am just glad I irritate MR2, he thinks I'm full a crap, probably am, but no different than many others.  The fundamental difference though, I don't give a bollocks!  ;D ;) ;D
That's good to know, that you know you're full of crap, and remember I don't give a bollix either😉. That team you put up (IMO) was rubbish and a decent top 3 team in Antrim would beat it
Ur so fcukin predictable Waldorf man, always take the rise, and for some one who does not give a bollocks, fcukin amazin!  ;D ;D ;D.

Sure we all talk crap at times you included, difference is, you think you are the end all and be all of everything hurling and everyone would listen to you. ::)  IMO, ur a wannabe, a hasbeen but with enough good sense not to get involved in a good hurling club, thats where you would get really caught out and be found wanting.  ;) ::) :-[

As regards the team I selected, as I said, not a lot to chose from and was dependent on a few probables like Benny and Jackson.  >:( >:(  The only saving grace is you will not be near any Antrim team, which is a relief and a blessing.  :-[ ;D  The word is, on a big stage and following defeat, your easy option is to walk away - least said! ;D :o ::)

Well just collected me winnings from Paddy Power, Shamrocks and Corofin done the business as I expected! Happy days!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been made aware of who you are, he he he  :D  Sure you have no pedigree at all, a total opportunist I hear?   :-[ :-X

So you still haven't grown a set and actually said what club you are from and any teams you have taken? Obviously knowing who you are then I know you are full of shit lol... Now run along , no doubt see you this year lol

Ps don't keep claiming to be from Loughgiel, wally
There you go again Waldorf, persistent sort of an idiot aren't you!  Just dont know when to back off.   ;D :-[  What's this crap about growing a pair?  Well Reebok, I'm not beholding to you or anyone here and don't give a toss who or what you think I am.  ;) :-[  Think I'll put you on my ignore list, your such an empty! :-[ ::) ???


Empty?? Ha ha. You have done nowt of any note, barfly material lol. You'd be better putting some of your 'knowledge' into ladies football.. That be about your scene around the SW
Fcukin hilarious Reebok, football/SW now you have me really lost??  ;D ;D  Never played the football, dont watch it and certainly not the ladies brand, sure I could go and watch your boys, plenty of big girls there if your that way inclined?  ;D  Sorry football never done it for me, always a poor relative of hurling.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I think I am not going to put you on my ignore list now, you intrigue and amuse me now and your obviously clutching at straws! ;D ;D ;D

   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I think I am not going to put you on my ignore list now, you intrigue and amuse me now and your obviously clutching at straws! ;D ;D ;D



So you're still not going to claim a club? My name may be on the thread but that's as far as it goes... I'm no expert nor claim to be one. I've hurled and played football for my club at all levels.. No biggy as most posters (bar you) have taken teams from under ten right through to senior (again you've done nowt, no biggy) most clubmen do, refereed many years also, so not afraid to put something back into the county, another area you fail at. Does this make me knowledgeable? No.. But you. Has you have in my guise's in the past make it personal.. Get a grip and grow up, what age are you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I think I am not going to put you on my ignore list now, you intrigue and amuse me now and your obviously clutching at straws! ;D ;D ;D



So you're still not going to claim a club? My name may be on the thread but that's as far as it goes... I'm no expert nor claim to be one. I've hurled and played football for my club at all levels.. No biggy as most posters (bar you) have taken teams from under ten right through to senior (again you've done nowt, no biggy) most clubmen do, refereed many years also, so not afraid to put something back into the county, another area you fail at. Does this make me knowledgeable? No.. But you. Has you have in my guise's in the past make it personal.. Get a grip and grow up, what age are you?
Couple of things, Firstly, I dont know your name other than your a St. Galls man who purports to be all knowing. Secondly, I never played the big ball game, dont even watch it and obviously not involved in coaching it in SW which you alluded to., that really amused me. :o  How can I make it personal if I dont even know you, just winding you up on things I have been told, but I dont believe everything I hear, got a rise all the same, you must admit!  ;D ;D It is good your are putting something back into the county, that is admirable. Have never refereed nor any desire to do so, I could not handle all that verbal and physical abuse which is doled out frequently.

As for me, have coached and still coach hurling at underage level through to senior, NI Access vetted, Foundation, Level 1 and Level 2 hurling coaching awards, first aid, defibrillator training.  Age 37, Married, 2 son and 1 daughter, neither of the sons play, much to my disappointment. As for my club, well involved in several clubs and counties, least said though! ::) ???  Suffice to say, no Belfast or SW clubs among them.  ::)  So we will just leave it at that.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I think I am not going to put you on my ignore list now, you intrigue and amuse me now and your obviously clutching at straws! ;D ;D ;D



So you're still not going to claim a club? My name may be on the thread but that's as far as it goes... I'm no expert nor claim to be one. I've hurled and played football for my club at all levels.. No biggy as most posters (bar you) have taken teams from under ten right through to senior (again you've done nowt, no biggy) most clubmen do, refereed many years also, so not afraid to put something back into the county, another area you fail at. Does this make me knowledgeable? No.. But you. Has you have in my guise's in the past make it personal.. Get a grip and grow up, what age are you?
Couple of things, Firstly, I dont know your name other than your a St. Galls man who purports to be all knowing. Secondly, I never played the big ball game, dont even watch it and obviously not involved in coaching it in SW which you alluded to., that really amused me. :o  How can I make it personal if I dont even know you, just winding you up on things I have been told, but I dont believe everything I hear, got a rise all the same, you must admit!  ;D ;D It is good your are putting something back into the county, that is admirable. Have never refereed nor any desire to do so, I could not handle all that verbal and physical abuse which is doled out frequently.

As for me, have coached and still coach hurling at underage level through to senior, NI Access vetted, Foundation, Level 1 and Level 2 hurling coaching awards, first aid, defibrillator training.  Age 37, Married, 2 son and 1 daughter, neither of the sons play, much to my disappointment. As for my club, well involved in several clubs and counties, least said though! ::) ???  Suffice to say, no Belfast or SW clubs among them.  ::)  So we will just leave it at that.  ;) ;)

So change your name then, as you ain't a loughgiel person. No where on my posts do I say I know everything, its my opinion. You've been coming on here for a while under various names and end up for whatever reason getting booted out. The SW thing was based on you not being from not Belfast or North Antrim leaving.....SW.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 17, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I think I am not going to put you on my ignore list now, you intrigue and amuse me now and your obviously clutching at straws! ;D ;D ;D



So you're still not going to claim a club? My name may be on the thread but that's as far as it goes... I'm no expert nor claim to be one. I've hurled and played football for my club at all levels.. No biggy as most posters (bar you) have taken teams from under ten right through to senior (again you've done nowt, no biggy) most clubmen do, refereed many years also, so not afraid to put something back into the county, another area you fail at. Does this make me knowledgeable? No.. But you. Has you have in my guise's in the past make it personal.. Get a grip and grow up, what age are you?
Couple of things, Firstly, I dont know your name other than your a St. Galls man who purports to be all knowing. Secondly, I never played the big ball game, dont even watch it and obviously not involved in coaching it in SW which you alluded to., that really amused me. :o  How can I make it personal if I dont even know you, just winding you up on things I have been told, but I dont believe everything I hear, got a rise all the same, you must admit!  ;D ;D It is good your are putting something back into the county, that is admirable. Have never refereed nor any desire to do so, I could not handle all that verbal and physical abuse which is doled out frequently.

As for me, have coached and still coach hurling at underage level through to senior, NI Access vetted, Foundation, Level 1 and Level 2 hurling coaching awards, first aid, defibrillator training.  Age 37, Married, 2 son and 1 daughter, neither of the sons play, much to my disappointment. As for my club, well involved in several clubs and counties, least said though! ::) ???  Suffice to say, no Belfast or SW clubs among them.  ::)  So we will just leave it at that.  ;) ;)

So change your name then, as you ain't a loughgiel person. No where on my posts do I say I know everything, its my opinion. You've been coming on here for a while under various names and end up for whatever reason getting booted out. The SW thing was based on you not being from not Belfast or North Antrim leaving.....SW.
So, lets clear up a few other matters:

1. I'm not from SW, NE actually.
2. I have never been booted off here as you put it. I have one account since Feb 14. But had been told you as the Antrim Hurling thread founder are the man who sanctions things and to watch out for. Maybe true, I dont know either way?
3. SW is a predominantly football enclave by my reckoning, as I said before, never played football and have no interest in it.
4. First time using the Antrim hurling thread and quickly have come to realise why I dont like social media. Full of wannabes it looks like to me anyway.
5. Never said I was from Loughgiel but within close proximity and also family ties in Magherhoney and Culfeightrin/ Ballycastle.
6. No plans in changing my name, by depol or otherwise.
7. Im a fervent believer in freedom of speech.

Got to get back to work. Chat soon following your next inaccurate deductions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly
Not that we have a lot of options to choose from DR.

No chance on the free admission bit, this is Antrim dont forget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly
Not hat we have a lot of options to choose from DR.

No chance on the free admission bit, this is Antrim dont forget.

Is there anyone you actually like?
Why do you persist in speaking the nonsense you do under the banner of a good club like Loughgiel? You have admitted you are not from there.


I would be putting out our strongest team in every match we can to try and get some form of momentum/team play. Fully assume the heads will be down a bit after the Waterford game and would be good to give this match a real rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly
Not hat we have a lot of options to choose from DR.

No chance on the free admission bit, this is Antrim dont forget.

Is there anyone you actually like?
Why do you persist in speaking the nonsense you do under the banner of a good club like Loughgiel? You have admitted you are not from there.


I would be putting out our strongest team in every match we can to try and get some form of momentum/team play. Fully assume the heads will be down a bit after the Waterford game and would be good to give this match a real rattle.
Ach fcuk no, not another fan/stalker.  ::) :o :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2015, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly

Spot on can't see us starting mc manus as he has hobbled of three games in a row
Is it in armoy again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 18, 2015, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly

Spot on can't see us starting mc manus as he has hobbled of three games in a row
Is it in armoy again

County website says Ballycastle 2pm - I thought I had read it was St Pauls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 18, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
Quote from: Glensman on March 18, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: Sham Man on March 18, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 18, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
i think they should let us in for free this sunday! i hate dead rubber games and im nearly certain that we wont field a first team v offaly
Not hat we have a lot of options to choose from DR.

No chance on the free admission bit, this is Antrim dont forget.

Is there anyone you actually like?
Why do you persist in speaking the nonsense you do under the banner of a good club like Loughgiel? You have admitted you are not from there.


I would be putting out our strongest team in every match we can to try and get some form of momentum/team play. Fully assume the heads will be down a bit after the Waterford game and would be good to give this match a real rattle.
Ach fcuk no, not another fan/stalker.  ::) :o :o

All hail Sham Man. He's a legend who writes like a 7 year old and has emoticons coming out of his ar5e.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 18, 2015, 02:31:56 PM
its in ballycastle at 2pm. as far as i was told were playing all the subs and keeping everyone for the play off game down in Laois next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 18, 2015, 08:10:07 PM
Are Offaly safe if they beat us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 18, 2015, 08:39:45 PM
Yeah. They're on 4 points already, Antrim on 0.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on March 18, 2015, 11:25:22 PM
Safe?? offaly are already in the league quarter finals...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on March 19, 2015, 06:50:57 AM
MR2 Any truth in the rumour GD(Xref) been asked to run for Cnty Chair?  I was told this in Croker on Paddys Day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2015, 07:07:46 AM
Quote from: blueblood on March 19, 2015, 06:50:57 AM
MR2 Any truth in the rumour GD(Xref) been asked to run for Cnty Chair?  I was told this in Croker on Paddys Day?

First I've heard of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 19, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
interesting piece in the irish news today from Shane McNaughton. Says Antrim need all the loughgiel players on board if they are ever to be successful.

"loughgiel are probably the best team in the county and if your not getting their best players its going to make it harder"

Thoughts SIE and SG? I think hes sh1t stiring personally. If my mates dad read that he would tear that back page off the paper lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on March 19, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
may be stirring a bit. Buts he right Antrim are much weaker without winker and the other shams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 19, 2015, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 19, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
interesting piece in the irish news today from Shane McNaughton. Says Antrim need all the loughgiel players on board if they are ever to be successful.

"loughgiel are probably the best team in the county and if your not getting their best players its going to make it harder"

Thoughts SIE and SG? I think hes sh1t stiring personally. If my mates dad read that he would tear that back page off the paper lol
sure he can say what he wants. Unless KR or his captain want them there, what can they do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
I don't know if Shane is stirring or stating a fact?
Depends where you put the blame on the best players not playing I suppose!

As for GD - heavens above I think i would prefer wee joe!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 19, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
Did Shane not say in the paper last week that this was the best Antrim panel he's ever played in? I can't see how the addition of any loughgiel players could improve such a squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 19, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
Will the game be in Laois or antrim...??

Personally I think it should be neutral Maybe Drogheda,Navan or clones......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 19, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 19, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
Will the game be in Laois or antrim...??

Personally I think it should be neutral Maybe Drogheda,Navan or clones......

I think the play-off game is to be in Portlaoise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 19, 2015, 03:01:21 PM
Its def in Portlaois
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 20, 2015, 08:47:00 AM
Dummy team fielded for Sunday presumably to keep them fresh for the relegation playoff. I'm not paying £13 in to watch Antrim reserves. Roll on the round robin at this stage!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2015, 09:02:10 AM
yeah i just seen the team there and ive already been told they were playing the subs so i was never going to waste £13 for that.

Saving myself for Portlaois next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 20, 2015, 09:05:43 AM
Same here Realist. I'm actually not going to go to the relegation playoff. I'll go to the championship round robin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2015, 09:21:49 AM
Personally I won't be back until it's knockout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 20, 2015, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 20, 2015, 09:02:10 AM
yeah i just seen the team there and ive already been told they were playing the subs so i was never going to waste £13 for that.

Saving myself for Portlaois next weekend.

ami the only one who doesnt buy into this whole thing of loads of changes, resting players etc? its still march, the players are training a couple of times a week, no club league games yet so why not put your best 15 out and try and build? Surely a competitive game will serve them well for the relegation play offs? i sometimes think it is to use it as an excuse 'ah sure we only had the 2nds out to give them a game' I really hope KR doesnt turn round and complain about nobody going to the game with the team he has selected, again this is not a slight at the players, ive no problem with one or two players who are showing well in training getting a start but ringing the changes just doesnt sit easy with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 20, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
I understand where you're coming from. There are potentially 2 relegation playoff games coming based on the assumption Laois beat us at home so should beat us in Portlaois. Add to that the round robin championship fixtures on the horizon, that's a lot of competitive games. I can see why he's resting players. I for one will not be paying in to watch a reserve team get beat by Ofally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on March 20, 2015, 02:29:28 PM
Team for Sunday ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 20, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 20, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
I understand where you're coming from. There are potentially 2 relegation playoff games coming based on the assumption Laois beat us at home so should beat us in Portlaois. Add to that the round robin championship fixtures on the horizon, that's a lot of competitive games. I can see why he's resting players. I for one will not be paying in to watch a reserve team get beat by Ofally.

My main gripe being, do players really need a rest at this time of year when they arent yet playing club games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
to be fair they have done more training than any club player has at this point of a season. I dont begrudge any one a rest but i still wont be wasting £13 into a game that clearly we have one eye on the game the week after.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on March 20, 2015, 06:45:27 PM
Any local club games this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 20, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
Quote from: manballandall on March 20, 2015, 02:29:28 PM
Team for Sunday ?
Antrim (NHL v Offaly) - Ryan McGarry; Odhran McFadden, Tommy McCann, Tomais O Ciarain; Eoin McAlonan, Ryan McCambridge, Paul Shiels; Arron Graffin, Conor McKinley; Darren Hamill, Conor Carson, Michael Bradley; Conor Johnson, Conor McCann, Shane NcNaughton.

Subs: Chris O Connell, James McShane, Jackson McGreevy, Eoin Campbell, Daniel McKernan, Michael Duddley, Npal McKenna, Ciaran Clarke, Matthew Donnelly.

Depressing!!!!!!! James McShane is a talented player, I'd have him in there. Jackson McGreevy could feel aggrieved not to be in there too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2015, 10:36:16 PM
Team is surely better than the bookies have it. -6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 21, 2015, 11:16:00 PM
Why would they not put their full team out ?

For years we complained about not enough competitive matches and now we are treating a league game as a training session. If they put the full team out and they won tomorrow they would go into the Laois match in fine fettle.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 22, 2015, 03:38:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2015, 10:36:16 PM
Team is surely better than the bookies have it. -6
surely it's not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2015, 08:42:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 22, 2015, 03:38:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2015, 10:36:16 PM
Team is surely better than the bookies have it. -6
surely it's not.

Surely it is, limerick who play Laois are -9 evens . Cant see Laois putting out a strong team considering they play Antrim next week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 22, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
Who played well today? Anybody pushing for a starting place from today's performance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 22, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
Wasn't at it myself.  The score line shocked me and the lads that did play deserve credit. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2015, 05:22:06 PM
A great effort by all accounts. Perhaps Antrim should start with this Team in the play off?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2015, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2015, 05:22:06 PM
A great effort by all accounts. Perhaps Antrim should start with this Team in the play off?  ;)

They should, I thought looking at the team it was good enough but fair fucks.. And Laois to their credit did well against Limerick in Limerick. Next week will be tough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Thewildcat on March 22, 2015, 07:22:02 PM
theses are silly dead rubber games offalys lads went to to top up there sun tan
its silly a team that wins no games still gets to get a chance in a play off the same last year did Antrim win a league game the last two years besides the play off last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 AM
we won away to carlow in 2013 in the league and that was our last win. We haven't won a home game since march 2012 against Laois. we won 2 at home that year.

Our record in the league is extremely poor and we haven't made any progress in 4 seasons in terms of it. Yes we did well yday but offaly were already qualified and it didn't matter how they did. Even still we should of been winning our home games. We have only won 1 league game since we moved to Ballycastle as well and that was the play off game v Offaly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2015, 09:12:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 23, 2015, 09:05:42 AM
we won away to carlow in 2013 in the league and that was our last win. We haven't won a home game since march 2012 against Laois. we won 2 at home that year.

Our record in the league is extremely poor and we haven't made any progress in 4 seasons in terms of it. Yes we did well yday but offaly were already qualified and it didn't matter how they did. Even still we should of been winning our home games. We have only won 1 league game since we moved to Ballycastle as well and that was the play off game v Offaly.

Interesting and sobering facts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
i know. I hate being a depression on a monday morning! lol

Im hopefully heading down on sunday morning to the match. Im going there more hoping we can pull a result out of the bag. Last time i was there for a Laois game was the leinster championship match and they had a massive home support that puts ours to shame. They will be big favorites for the match and rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2015, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 23, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
i know. I hate being a depression on a monday morning! lol

Im hopefully heading down on sunday morning to the match. Im going there more hoping we can pull a result out of the bag. Last time i was there for a Laois game was the leinster championship match and they had a massive home support that puts ours to shame. They will be big favorites for the match and rightly so.

At least we know Bradley is a good hurler up front
5 from play is good going and he should be starting in the half forward line from now on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2015, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2015, 10:05:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 23, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
i know. I hate being a depression on a monday morning! lol

Im hopefully heading down on sunday morning to the match. Im going there more hoping we can pull a result out of the bag. Last time i was there for a Laois game was the leinster championship match and they had a massive home support that puts ours to shame. They will be big favorites for the match and rightly so.

At least we know Bradley is a good hurler up front
5 from play is good going and he should be starting in the half forward line from now on
We agree on something Antrim related. I'm speechless.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
It will make the Antrim Post tomorrow! haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2015, 08:58:30 PM
Anybody watching TG4? That Tipp v cork game was something else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2015, 08:58:30 PM
Anybody watching TG4? That Tipp v cork game was something else.

The All-ireland is wide open this year.
Cork & tipp mean business.
Clare are a young team with an all-ireland under their belt already.
Limerick have a year more experience.
Can dublin or galway finally make a breakthrough in september?
Wexford & Waterford are building but can they do it come championship.
And there there's a certain kilkenny.
Not all contenders - but I honestly don't remember there being anytime with a more open field to take Liam McCarthy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 12:35:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 23, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 23, 2015, 08:58:30 PM
Anybody watching TG4? That Tipp v cork game was something else.

The All-ireland is wide open this year.
Cork & tipp mean business.
Clare are a young team with an all-ireland under their belt already.
Limerick have a year more experience.
Can dublin or galway finally make a breakthrough in september?
Wexford & Waterford are building but can they do it come championship.
And there there's a certain kilkenny.
Not all contenders - but I honestly don't remember there being anytime with a more open field to take Liam McCarthy.

Gotta go with tipp
There new players are impressive and they seem to be on a mission
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2015, 09:00:22 AM
The Munster Hurling championship will be interesting thats for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2015, 10:07:46 AM
Expect Tipp myself, but would consider Waterford dark horses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 10:41:56 AM
Laois v Antrim 5pm O Moore Park Sat 28th March

Followed at 7pm by a big derby game in Div 2 football between Laois and local and bitter rivals Kildare.

Kildare always bring massive support to Portlaoise and Laois have a chance to relegate them so it will be a spicy affair.Its very rare this game finishes with 15 v 15 on the field.

A good double header and for 10 euro (buying tickets before Saturday)and 16s are free is good value.

Safe trip to anyone heading down from the glen's...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 10:41:56 AM
Laois v Antrim 5pm O Moore Park Sat 28th March

Followed at 7pm by a big derby game in Div 2 football between Laois and local and bitter rivals Kildare.

Kildare always bring massive support to Portlaoise and Laois have a chance to relegate them so it will be a spicy affair.Its very rare this game finishes with 15 v 15 on the field.

A good double header and for 10 euro (buying tickets before Saturday)and 16s are free is good value.
Safe trip to anyone heading down from the glen's...

And yet £13 into Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
They are €15 if purchased at the ground but availible in any supervalu or centra for €10 if bought before saturday!!

Not bad value about £6.50 at the moment ...u16s free is good aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
They are €15 if purchased at the ground but availible in any supervalu or centra for €10 if bought before saturday!!

Not bad value about £6.50 at the moment ...u16s free is good aswell

The GAA and the Ulster council don't do € to £ exchange rates like that.

€10 = £8 in GAA talk.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 24, 2015, 03:48:40 PM
i noticed that myself. In ulster they have their own exchange rate and dont pay any attention to the current rate. God forbid they wouldnt get enough cash
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
They are €15 if purchased at the ground but availible in any supervalu or centra for €10 if bought before saturday!!

Not bad value about £6.50 at the moment ...u16s free is good aswell
[/quote

10 euros is 7.32 stg

13 stg as the admission to ballycastle is 17.77 euros

Absolutely ridiculous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 03:54:12 PM
Yes but €10 into Portlaoise will be about £6.50 for any folk down from county Antrim.

Decent 2 star hotel with great food in the centre of town a walk away from the Park aswell

http://www.booking.com/hotel/ie/loughlins.en-gb.html?aid=311076;label=loughlins-LpWGBluUoiLRK3XWbwRBqQS31734525060%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2600%2C000%3Aac%3Aap1t1%3Aneg;sid=44590030fa559cedfa34326a3df7a960;dcid=1;checkin=2015-03-28;checkout=2015-03-29;ucfs=1;srfid=b5212f33e0ace57b62cca7beaef2bbe20f676880X1;hptv=do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg
The great man has called it quits at County level. We've lost a living legend. I've been lucky enough to have met him a few times and he's always come across as a decent fella. He always has time for the fans, no matter what colour their jerseys. He especially took time for the youngsters. He'll be a big miss to all hurling fans around the world.

I read a quote earlier:

"DJ electrified the fans, Henry electrified the players"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2015, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg
The great man has called it quits at County level. We've lost a living legend. I've been lucky enough to have met him a few times and he's always come across as a decent fella. He always has time for the fans, no matter what colour their jerseys. He especially took time for the youngsters. He'll be a big miss to all hurling fans around the world.

I read a quote earlier:

"DJ electrified the fans, Henry electrified the players"

Agreed
but really a press conference
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2015, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg
The great man has called it quits at County level. We've lost a living legend. I've been lucky enough to have met him a few times and he's always come across as a decent fella. He always has time for the fans, no matter what colour their jerseys. He especially took time for the youngsters. He'll be a big miss to all hurling fans around the world.

I read a quote earlier:

"DJ electrified the fans, Henry electrified the players"

Agreed
but really a press conference
it's how it's done down there. It is Kilkenny.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2015, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg
The great man has called it quits at County level. We've lost a living legend. I've been lucky enough to have met him a few times and he's always come across as a decent fella. He always has time for the fans, no matter what colour their jerseys. He especially took time for the youngsters. He'll be a big miss to all hurling fans around the world.

I read a quote earlier:

"DJ electrified the fans, Henry electrified the players"

Agreed
but really a press conference
it's how it's done down there. It is Kilkenny.  ;)
I see he has book coming out that's why it's done
Fair play nobody's deserves it more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 26, 2015, 10:45:10 AM
Few rumblings in Rossa camp HS?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 26, 2015, 11:44:44 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
I see Henry Sheflin has called a press conference tomorrow
Will it go anything like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HgJ9Uztgg
The great man has called it quits at County level. We've lost a living legend. I've been lucky enough to have met him a few times and he's always come across as a decent fella. He always has time for the fans, no matter what colour their jerseys. He especially took time for the youngsters. He'll be a big miss to all hurling fans around the world.

I read a quote earlier:

"DJ electrified the fans, Henry electrified the players"

To be fair he always was a gentleman and had plenty of time for the fans. Joe Canning was the same, he stood on the pitch for an age one day after a match to sign sticks and shirts and never moaned once about doing it. Henry was the same.

Listened to his interview with Marty Morrisey on 2FM last night and he came across really well. A down to earth family man who loved hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2015, 01:01:18 PM
new rules regarding the penalty taking.... one man on the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on March 26, 2015, 06:24:31 PM
Would anyone be in a position to confirm on which day the Antrim versus Laois game is being played? I have heard  a few conflicting dates and times.  I know its in Laois, but what day Sat 28th or Sunday 29th?  Many thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 26, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on March 26, 2015, 06:24:31 PM
Would anyone be in a position to confirm on which day the Antrim versus Laois game is being played? I have heard  a few conflicting dates and times.  I know its in Laois, but what day Sat 28th or Sunday 29th?  Many thanks in anticipation.
Saturday at 5pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on March 26, 2015, 10:02:39 PM
Team for Sunday
1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
4
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga
5
Neil Mc Manus (Capt)
Ruairi Og
6
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
7
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
8
Ciaran Johnson
Naomh Eoin
9
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
10
PJ O Connell​
Gaeil Na Cluanaigh
11
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
12
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
13
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
14
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
15
Conor Johnston
Naomh Eoin
16
Ryan Mc Garry
Mac Uilin
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoin Mc Alonan
Mac Uilin
19
Darren Hamill
Shane O Neills
20
Jackson Mc Greevy
Naomh Gall
21
Tomas Ma Cann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Michael Dudley
Naomh Eoin
23
Nial Mc Kenna
Padraig Sairseil
24
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
25
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
26
Shane Mc Naughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 26, 2015, 11:44:09 PM
I'd make 2 changes ....but what would I know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on March 27, 2015, 09:09:21 AM
Going to be a tight contested battle...Antrim well used to coming down this neck of the woods Laois/offaly so know how to prepare...They usually stay in the Heritage hotel in Portlaoise the night before...

They have also played so many times in O'Moore Park in the last few years and beaten Laois there last year also giving Wexford a right craic in the double header a few weeks later so the ground doesn't hold much advantage for Laois...

I can see this being an open game of hurling I just Hope Laois come out the right side of it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 01:35:19 PM
would be some set back for hurling in laois to be beaten this evening after the good work that was put in over the last two years under Cheddar, but i belive laois will win well today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2015, 01:50:57 PM
Laois would have to be favourites right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
I've backed us +5 at evens, will be a tight game but by feck we must start the game with pace pressure and loads of heart!!! If we don't put them on the back foot we'll get bate! Strong winds out there so winning toss is crucial!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 03:33:20 PM
Anyone know why Woody is not in the squad today? He is a significant loss
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 28, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
Eoin Gillan from Cushendall called up as Chris O'Connell is carrying a slight injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 05:19:10 PM
0.8 - 1.3 - 20 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
So someone's leading by 2...cheers :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 28, 2015, 05:38:44 PM
Laois up 0-13 to 1-6 at ht and have the wind on their backs in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
4 points down at half time.  With the breeze.  Not sounding good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 28, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
http://www.midlandsradio.fm/custom/api/radio.player.php?temp=true Laois on top leading by three or four and have the wind for 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2015, 05:40:57 PM
HT @AontroimGAA 1-6 Laois 0-13. Now have to play into breeze in second half. Big battle ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
Id try mc manus at full or half forward. Pull Carson to centre forward. And try the long ball. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
Id try mc manus at full or half forward. Pull Carson to centre forward. And try the long ball.

I asked earlier, but anyone know why Woody isn't playing? Carson is not good enough SG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
I don't no to be honest.  Maybe Neil didn't think he was playing well enough  ;D.  I don't think he is myself this year.But sure. As said before. Have to work with what's there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 05:56:14 PM
2 quick points at start of 2nd.  We're in bother
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:06:51 PM
Mc Cambridge straight red.  But we're back to level. 5 in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:19:54 PM
Level with 9 mins left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
Laois goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
Back to back goals have killed this game of now.  A question. Is it the same joke as last year. Team relegated gets another chance to stay up by playing D2 winners. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 06:28:47 PM
Yeah, same. Kerry/Westmeath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 28, 2015, 06:31:38 PM
Awful result. Moral victories are for nothing. Antrim hurling has not improved one bit in 3 years. Sport is a results business and were not getting them. We'll struggle with Kerry and Westmeath and by rights deserve to be in 2a next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:33:11 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on March 28, 2015, 06:31:38 PM
Awful result. Moral victories are for nothing. Antrim hurling has not improved one bit in 3 years. Sport is a results business and were not getting them. We'll struggle with Kerry and Westmeath and by rights deserve to be in 2a next year
agree,  Sadly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
Dublin (1A) thumped Limerick (1B). Come championship Limerick will have greatly upped their game and would likely dispense of Dublin (they use league for messing about). I'm not sure we can greatly improve between now and championship. It's not looking like a great championship. A great workman never blames his tools however in this case you could forgive KR, given the very limited forwards he has at his disposal. PJ didn't score today AGAIN. Stats speak for themselves. Not good enough!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
Back to back goals have killed this game of now.  A question. Is it the same joke as last year. Team relegated gets another chance to stay up by playing D2 winners.

yes is a joke Antrim should have been down in division 2 last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
Dublin (1A) thumped Limerick (1B). Come championship Limerick will have greatly upped their game and would likely dispense of Dublin (they use league for messing about). I'm not sure we can greatly improve between now and championship. It's not looking like a great championship. A great workman never blames his tools however in this case you could forgive KR, given the very limited forwards he has at his disposal. PJ didn't score today AGAIN. Stats speak for themselves. Not good enough!


don't agree Ger Cunningham has Dublin back to the level they were when they won the leinster and league final, Limerick are good for only one good game a year, i belive Clare will beat them well in the championship in a few weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 07:02:16 PM
Well we will see come championship. Limerick have been in the top 4 teams in the country past 2 years in championship hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on March 28, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Bloody marvellous eh, another wasted trip!  Another farce of game and we fail miserably once more.  Difficult to see light at the end of the tunnel on the back of consecutive defeats. If that's the best we can do, Div. 2A is most certainly looming, Kerry or Westmeath on their day would certainly put us to the sword.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
Back to back goals have killed this game of now.  A question. Is it the same joke as last year. Team relegated gets another chance to stay up by playing D2 winners.

yes is a joke Antrim should have been down in division 2 last year.
think you'll find its offaly that should have went down last year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
Quote from: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
Dublin (1A) thumped Limerick (1B). Come championship Limerick will have greatly upped their game and would likely dispense of Dublin (they use league for messing about). I'm not sure we can greatly improve between now and championship. It's not looking like a great championship. A great workman never blames his tools however in this case you could forgive KR, given the very limited forwards he has at his disposal. PJ didn't score today AGAIN. Stats speak for themselves. Not good enough!


don't agree Ger Cunningham has Dublin back to the level they were when they won the leinster and league final, Limerick are good for only one good game a year, i belive Clare will beat them well in the championship in a few weeks time.
I do agree here.  Dubs have looked very very sharp all league.  There's no way you just turn it of and on.  Limerick looked very poor. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
We can all speculate. Limerick 2014 1b runners up - Munster finalists. Beat by eventual AI winners after a replay.
Limerick 2013 1b winners - Munster champions..... Limerick regularly finish in this position in the league . They've another level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2015, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
We can all speculate. Limerick 2014 1b runners up - Munster finalists. Beat by eventual AI winners after a replay.
Limerick 2013 1b winners - Munster champions..... Limerick regularly finish in this position in the league . They've another level.

Last year is last year, Limerick have placed a massive importance on getting out of 1B since they have been in it, to say they just use the league to mess about is nonsense. Pretty sure they would have welcomed the extra games as they don't play in Munster for 8 weeks. They might improve as the years goes in but they were well beaten today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
My point is that they definitely will improve come championship like they have the past 2 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 28, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: Thewildcat on March 28, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 28, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
Back to back goals have killed this game of now.  A question. Is it the same joke as last year. Team relegated gets another chance to stay up by playing D2 winners.

yes is a joke Antrim should have been down in division 2 last year.
think you'll find its offaly that should have went down last year. 

We finished bottom last year and beat Offaly in the first play off. Offaly then won the playoff against the 2a winner. So if the thing is to b done properly the bottom team should go straight down no stupid second and third chances. Weve been bottom 2 in a row so should def be down. If they want a playoff it should be between 2nd from bottom and 2nd in 2a
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 09:12:09 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
My point is that they definitely will improve come championship like they have the past 2 years.

Well they couldn't get any worse than last night so you're correct in one sense.   Dublin didn't play regular first team players last night... They certainly have even more to give.... Tipp the best team so far by a good margin they seemed to be going all out this year, worth a punt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
A question or two for the whingers

How much coaching effort have you put in trying to develop players who are "good enough"?

If the answer is little or none then shouldn't you consider getting on board and help develop IC quality forwards? Sounds like it's a handy enough thing to do.

Very little it would seem would have us at the other end of the table. Tell us in a bit of detail about the acheiveable steps needed to bring us on?

Is there anything you'd like to say about the dedication and effort KR and the panel has put in?


As Henry Shefflin said himself, it's easy when you're from KK to commit but the real hero's are those from counties who know they won't have success but still put in serious effort for their cause.









Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
It's very difficult to commit when players do go and are obviously, from the get go, made to feel like persona non grata. It's been happening for three years. but sure me, my fellow posters from loughgiel and people in general from loughgiel are wrong to question what's going on. Correct?

One league win in three years is not good enough. In any other line of work that would be obvious. There's too many people willing to keep their heads in the sand over this. We've tried communicating with the County management but keep getting the same response. You get what you give.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Just ignore those questions then SIE.

Ordhran Chrissie and Eddie (til he bowed out) being there would suggest you're as ever trying to keep a storm alive that most of us would like to see blow over.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what "good enough" should be for our current playing population relative to the other counties considering the apathy/lack of support that exists in this county? Just how much better could you make us?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 10:55:24 AM
We're doing what we can within our club. Contrary to popular belief (on here) there's nothing we would love to see more than more loughgiel players on the County panel. As I stated before, Eddie wasn't the only County panellist at that football match. Yet he's the one that gets castigated for it. Double standards? We think so. But what's new about that where loughgiel players are concerned under this regime?

I'm not going to defend Eddie on this, but I will let you know the facts, Again. He was called up to the County panel last year by Ryan via a Phone call. He was then notified by text that he wasn't a few hours later after Ryan talked to his captain and his mates. This year Eddie committed from the start. He Was ostracized from the start By the chosen one and his mates.  He questioned the training from the start. No actual hurling training in two months. That was his gripe. Fair enough?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 29, 2015, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 09:12:09 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
My point is that they definitely will improve come championship like they have the past 2 years.

Well they couldn't get any worse than last night so you're correct in one sense.   Dublin didn't play regular first team players last night... They certainly have even more to give.... Tipp the best team so far by a good margin they seemed to be going all out this year, worth a punt

Dublin beat Tipp by 12 points this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
On another note, a great days hurling on tg4 the day. Brilliant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.

Can we stick to what is achievable SIE with what we have. How in the name of God would any county let alone our be able to bring that about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.

Can we stick to what is achievable SIE with what we have. How in the name of God would any county let alone our be able to bring that about?
I'm talking about the players playing for the County at all age groups from under 16 up. Surely it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Ryan can talk to the coaches and get a system installed that all players can buy in to. So that when it's time to step up an age group the lads know what's expected of them. Team work and camaraderie are sadly lacking at senior level, that needs to be improved. All players working to the same end goal would help with that. But sure, I can dream.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 02:06:43 PM
Yeah surely SIE

And you'd be confident that we have the coaching population with the right numbers and quality and organisation to bring this about year on year on year?

Surely? Really?

I'd say you are dreaming yes. In reality we haven't the right numbers of people prepared to coach the game and numbers interested to make it something for enough players to want to aspire to play at the top level.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 02:06:43 PM
Yeah surely SIE

And you'd be confident that we have the coaching population with the right numbers and quality and organisation to bring this about year on year on year?

Surely? Really?

I'd say you are dreaming yes. In reality we haven't the right numbers of people prepared to coach the game and numbers interested to make it something for enough players to want to aspire to play at the top level.
I understand that we have to work with what we've got, but there is a an anomaly when it comes to communication in this county. That can be fixed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 02:23:01 PM
Colin and Michael Fennely, Joey Holden and tj Reid all playing for Kilkenny today. And playing well. They haven't been with the County panel since last year. Interesting that.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2015, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 02:23:01 PM
Colin and Michael Fennely, Joey Holden and tj Reid all playing for Kilkenny today. And playing well. They haven't been with the County panel since last year. Interesting that.  :-X
its grand isn't it. No bad blood.  And there county team mates are actually passing the ball to them.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2015, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 02:23:01 PM
Colin and Michael Fennely, Joey Holden and tj Reid all playing for Kilkenny today. And playing well. They haven't been with the County panel since last year. Interesting that.  :-X
its grand isn't it. No bad blood.  And there county team mates are actually passing the ball to them.  ;D
I know. And no-one felt the need to go write a piece in the County Antrim Post about how all the club players in Kilkenny train with the County even if they're still in the all Ireland. Which they don't.   :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
I would love to have seen how that would have worked had the current county champions had won ulster. Would our current county captain have burned the wick at both ends for the club and county. Guess we'll never no  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 29, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
I would love to have seen how that would have worked had the current county champions had won ulster. Would our current county captain have burned the wick at both ends for the club and county. Guess we'll never no  :o
:-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 29, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Has anybody's U16 club coaches complaining about the lack of league fixtures? League starts on Easter Monday and no hint of fixtures on the horizon!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 05:28:48 PM
Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 05:28:48 PM
Yes
can you elaborate? Are you getting the brick wall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 05:52:27 PM
Our U16 coaches are complaining about the lack of a fixtures list even though the dates are there. No more than that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:56:57 PM
It is frustrating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 29, 2015, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:56:57 PM
It is frustrating.
It's McManus's fault
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 29, 2015, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:56:57 PM
It is frustrating.
It's McManus's fault
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?

I get your point JC - but I'm long past looking at age profiles as some sort of success.

Clare won an All-Ireland with a young team - inter county hurling is about the here and now - it's not about the non-existent promise of the future.
What I mean is the best team should be on the pitch - age is irrelevant.
We've had young teams before - the notion that means bright time ahead when they mature is totally unfounded as there's no guarantee of that. Also - look around at other inter-county teams - they are no older than ours - it's a young man's game now.

By the sounds of things we gave a good account of ourselves which I was glad to hear. But I've lost alot of interest this year as things are just so repetitive. Same fixtures same opposition year in year out. A good year and a poor year really aren't much different. And our club scene held to ransom all the while for this procession.

I was at the Waterford Galway game - ruined somewhat by the wind. Canning can't carry that Galway side alone - and Waterford have a wealth of underage talent coming through now. They're not ready to compete with the big boys but I don't think they'll ever fall out of the reckoning too far - like everyone thought they would when the Flynn McGrath Hartley Browne era subsidied. There's a reason for that. Also notable the huge amount of kids at the game - none of them asked their age - and buses run by the county board pick up at various clubs to ferry them to and from the game. This takes the onus off the club to get kids to games - the county generate their own support as such and work with the clubs to do it. Clubs administrators have enough on their plate so they buy into this and the county get more noise at their games and kids interested - win win all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 30, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?

I get your point JC - but I'm long past looking at age profiles as some sort of success.

Clare won an All-Ireland with a young team - inter county hurling is about the here and now - it's not about the non-existent promise of the future.
What I mean is the best team should be on the pitch - age is irrelevant.
We've had young teams before - the notion that means bright time ahead when they mature is totally unfounded as there's no guarantee of that. Also - look around at other inter-county teams - they are no older than ours - it's a young man's game now.

By the sounds of things we gave a good account of ourselves which I was glad to hear. But I've lost alot of interest this year as things are just so repetitive. Same fixtures same opposition year in year out. A good year and a poor year really aren't much different. And our club scene held to ransom all the while for this procession.

I was at the Waterford Galway game - ruined somewhat by the wind. Canning can't carry that Galway side alone - and Waterford have a wealth of underage talent coming through now. They're not ready to compete with the big boys but I don't think they'll ever fall out of the reckoning too far - like everyone thought they would when the Flynn McGrath Hartley Browne era subsidied. There's a reason for that. Also notable the huge amount of kids at the game - none of them asked their age - and buses run by the county board pick up at various clubs to ferry them to and from the game. This takes the onus off the club to get kids to games - the county generate their own support as such and work with the clubs to do it. Clubs administrators have enough on their plate so they buy into this and the county get more noise at their games and kids interested - win win all round.

Great to hear a genuine hurling fan on here instead of some of the mouthpieces who only shit stir and play the blame game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2015, 11:04:33 AM
Not enough interested adults in this County. We're short on

Coaches
Administrators
Referees
Supporters

Why criticise those who are trying their best volunteering and knowing that their plans/ideas will more than likely fail/not reach expectations because not enough interested adults are prepared to be part of making it happen?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?

I get your point JC - but I'm long past looking at age profiles as some sort of success.

Clare won an All-Ireland with a young team - inter county hurling is about the here and now - it's not about the non-existent promise of the future.
What I mean is the best team should be on the pitch - age is irrelevant.
We've had young teams before - the notion that means bright time ahead when they mature is totally unfounded as there's no guarantee of that. Also - look around at other inter-county teams - they are no older than ours - it's a young man's game now.

By the sounds of things we gave a good account of ourselves which I was glad to hear. But I've lost alot of interest this year as things are just so repetitive. Same fixtures same opposition year in year out. A good year and a poor year really aren't much different. And our club scene held to ransom all the while for this procession.

I was at the Waterford Galway game - ruined somewhat by the wind. Canning can't carry that Galway side alone - and Waterford have a wealth of underage talent coming through now. They're not ready to compete with the big boys but I don't think they'll ever fall out of the reckoning too far - like everyone thought they would when the Flynn McGrath Hartley Browne era subsidied. There's a reason for that. Also notable the huge amount of kids at the game - none of them asked their age - and buses run by the county board pick up at various clubs to ferry them to and from the game. This takes the onus off the club to get kids to games - the county generate their own support as such and work with the clubs to do it. Clubs administrators have enough on their plate so they buy into this and the county get more noise at their games and kids interested - win win all round.

Even that phenomenally talented Clare team relied on Pat Donnellan, Bugler and Fergal Lynch to get them over the line in tough games. Those lads have been in and around not so successful Clare teams for the better part of a decade up to this point and there's a reason wee Davy had them about the team.
The Antrim team of the late 80's spent many's a year in the lower echelons of hurling before garnering the experience and mental hardness to compete and sustain themselves in Div1 of the hurling leagues and those formative years IMO are where the current Antrim team are now.

Plus where would you in all seriousness expect Antrim to be in the hurling ladder, given playing population, number of clubs, etc, etc, being realistic?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 30, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?

I get your point JC - but I'm long past looking at age profiles as some sort of success.

Clare won an All-Ireland with a young team - inter county hurling is about the here and now - it's not about the non-existent promise of the future.
What I mean is the best team should be on the pitch - age is irrelevant.
We've had young teams before - the notion that means bright time ahead when they mature is totally unfounded as there's no guarantee of that. Also - look around at other inter-county teams - they are no older than ours - it's a young man's game now.

By the sounds of things we gave a good account of ourselves which I was glad to hear. But I've lost alot of interest this year as things are just so repetitive. Same fixtures same opposition year in year out. A good year and a poor year really aren't much different. And our club scene held to ransom all the while for this procession.

I was at the Waterford Galway game - ruined somewhat by the wind. Canning can't carry that Galway side alone - and Waterford have a wealth of underage talent coming through now. They're not ready to compete with the big boys but I don't think they'll ever fall out of the reckoning too far - like everyone thought they would when the Flynn McGrath Hartley Browne era subsidied. There's a reason for that. Also notable the huge amount of kids at the game - none of them asked their age - and buses run by the county board pick up at various clubs to ferry them to and from the game. This takes the onus off the club to get kids to games - the county generate their own support as such and work with the clubs to do it. Clubs administrators have enough on their plate so they buy into this and the county get more noise at their games and kids interested - win win all round.

Great to hear a genuine hurling fan on here instead of some of the mouthpieces who only shit stir and play the blame game.
+1
One the best post in weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2015, 10:40:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 30, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Would that current Antrim team not have a pretty young age profile?

Graffan and McManus probably the oldest on it and they wouldn't be in their 30's yet, would they?

I get your point JC - but I'm long past looking at age profiles as some sort of success.

Clare won an All-Ireland with a young team - inter county hurling is about the here and now - it's not about the non-existent promise of the future.
What I mean is the best team should be on the pitch - age is irrelevant.
We've had young teams before - the notion that means bright time ahead when they mature is totally unfounded as there's no guarantee of that. Also - look around at other inter-county teams - they are no older than ours - it's a young man's game now.

By the sounds of things we gave a good account of ourselves which I was glad to hear. But I've lost alot of interest this year as things are just so repetitive. Same fixtures same opposition year in year out. A good year and a poor year really aren't much different. And our club scene held to ransom all the while for this procession.

I was at the Waterford Galway game - ruined somewhat by the wind. Canning can't carry that Galway side alone - and Waterford have a wealth of underage talent coming through now. They're not ready to compete with the big boys but I don't think they'll ever fall out of the reckoning too far - like everyone thought they would when the Flynn McGrath Hartley Browne era subsidied. There's a reason for that. Also notable the huge amount of kids at the game - none of them asked their age - and buses run by the county board pick up at various clubs to ferry them to and from the game. This takes the onus off the club to get kids to games - the county generate their own support as such and work with the clubs to do it. Clubs administrators have enough on their plate so they buy into this and the county get more noise at their games and kids interested - win win all round.

Even that phenomenally talented Clare team relied on Pat Donnellan, Bugler and Fergal Lynch to get them over the line in tough games. Those lads have been in and around not so successful Clare teams for the better part of a decade up to this point and there's a reason wee Davy had them about the team.
The Antrim team of the late 80's spent many's a year in the lower echelons of hurling before garnering the experience and mental hardness to compete and sustain themselves in Div1 of the hurling leagues and those formative years IMO are where the current Antrim team are now.

Plus where would you in all seriousness expect Antrim to be in the hurling ladder, given playing population, number of clubs, etc, etc, being realistic?

I suppose that's the big question - maybe we need to lower our expectations but I yearn for the day's out of yester-year!
I'd be more concerned that the county scebe (not just Antrim) is all powerful and dominant to the detriment of the club scene. Thats never been what the GAA is abotu, and it undermines the very strength that is the GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 30, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.

never got to the game but thank god i didnt go. The brother was at it and said it was a load of rubbish. Gale force wind in the first half and Lgiel used it well to get the scores, second half it died. Added to the cold and us sending a second team out he left early with his wains not even wanting to leave the car due to the cold lol.

Its usefull to get people some game time i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.

never got to the game but thank god i didnt go. The brother was at it and said it was a load of rubbish. Gale force wind in the first half and Lgiel used it well to get the scores, second half it died. Added to the cold and us sending a second team out he left early with his wains not even wanting to leave the car due to the cold lol.

Its usefull to get people some game time i suppose.
Jesus it was stormy but fair dues to LG the tanked us fair and square
Eddie was flying, at least all that county training has him in good form for club hurling
We dobbin looked good to
Our boys never showed up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2015, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on March 29, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Has anybody's U16 club coaches complaining about the lack of league fixtures? League starts on Easter Monday and no hint of fixtures on the horizon!!!

U16 fixtures now up on county website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 30, 2015, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.

never got to the game but thank god i didnt go. The brother was at it and said it was a load of rubbish. Gale force wind in the first half and Lgiel used it well to get the scores, second half it died. Added to the cold and us sending a second team out he left early with his wains not even wanting to leave the car due to the cold lol.

Its usefull to get people some game time i suppose.
Jesus it was stormy but fair dues to LG the tanked us fair and square
Eddie was flying, at least all that county training has him in good form for club hurling
We dobbin looked good to
Our boys never showed up
I wouldn't have thought it was dunloys 2nd team. Shorty and woody missing alright.  I counted 4 maybe 5 missing.  We ourselves had 5 missing.   Wouldn't read much into it. Least we turned up and played in it :). See the towns new Jerseys on the Twitter. Championship winning years on display. Cool enough.  Surely humpy will get the best out of this squad of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 30, 2015, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.

never got to the game but thank god i didnt go. The brother was at it and said it was a load of rubbish. Gale force wind in the first half and Lgiel used it well to get the scores, second half it died. Added to the cold and us sending a second team out he left early with his wains not even wanting to leave the car due to the cold lol.

Its usefull to get people some game time i suppose.
Jesus it was stormy but fair dues to LG the tanked us fair and square
Eddie was flying, at least all that county training has him in good form for club hurling
We dobbin looked good to
Our boys never showed up
I wouldn't have thought it was dunloys 2nd team. Shorty and woody missing alright.  I counted 4 maybe 5 missing.  We ourselves had 5 missing.   Wouldn't read much into it. Least we turned up and played in it :). See the towns new Jerseys on the Twitter. Championship winning years on display. Cool enough.  Surely humpy will get the best out of this squad of players.
I counted 8 players that didn't start in last championship match and you guys at full strength bar watson so let's get our facts right
Still a bit disappointing from our perspective
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 30, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
Our team was:
Dd
T. Coyle
neil Mcgarry
ronan Mccloskey
Ding
tony Mccloskey
damon
Barney
duck
Eddie Mccloskey
skinner
Seamy dobbin
Dan Mccloskey
joey Scullion
james mcnaughton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 30, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 30, 2015, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Loughgiel 1-18 dunloy 0-04. Final score Mcauley cup final.

never got to the game but thank god i didnt go. The brother was at it and said it was a load of rubbish. Gale force wind in the first half and Lgiel used it well to get the scores, second half it died. Added to the cold and us sending a second team out he left early with his wains not even wanting to leave the car due to the cold lol.

Its usefull to get people some game time i suppose.
Jesus it was stormy but fair dues to LG the tanked us fair and square
Eddie was flying, at least all that county training has him in good form for club hurling
We dobbin looked good to
Our boys never showed up
I wouldn't have thought it was dunloys 2nd team. Shorty and woody missing alright.  I counted 4 maybe 5 missing.  We ourselves had 5 missing.   Wouldn't read much into it. Least we turned up and played in it :). See the towns new Jerseys on the Twitter. Championship winning years on display. Cool enough.  Surely humpy will get the best out of this squad of players.
I counted 8 players that didn't start in last championship match and you guys at full strength bar watson so let's get our facts right
Still a bit disappointing from our perspective
stop with the facts. Lol.  It's hardly the championship final.  We were missing 5 lads that would be starting or very close to starting.  Wasn't having a go. But it wasn't your 2nd team.  That's all.   Outside woody,shorty,dowds and Nicky mc keague. Who else would make your team that wasn't there?  Honest question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2015, 09:00:09 PM
Unfortunately Dunloys panel isn't anywhere near as strong as Loughgiels. No shock there.

Our fringe players have plenty of work to do getting up to the right standard for senior club. A strong senior team needs 20/21 solid options. Hopefully Sunday was a hard lesson that we're willing to learn from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2015, 08:56:02 AM
i see bunga had to go off after 7mins with a hamstring injury. Hes been plagued with that which is a pity if its happened again. Losing one of our stronger players before the seasons started isnt great.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 31, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
Can any of the Dunloy posters name your name who started? Thanks

Looking forward to the league games next weekend. I see nearly all games are set to start at the one time (I know ours is changed to Sat). If the County/Clubs wanted to bring in a few extra quid they could stagger the start times. I'd happily go and watch Dunloy / Cushendall etc in the afternoon then go and watch our boys in the evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2015, 11:34:39 AM
MR2 / HS

How will the Naomh Gall Rossa game be affected by the county bog-ballers?
Change of time or date or dare I say players unavailable?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2015, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 31, 2015, 11:01:31 AM
Can any of the Dunloy posters name your name who started? Thanks

Looking forward to the league games next weekend. I see nearly all games are set to start at the one time (I know ours is changed to Sat). If the County/Clubs wanted to bring in a few extra quid they could stagger the start times. I'd happily go and watch Dunloy / Cushendall etc in the afternoon then go and watch our boys in the evening.

1. Gabby McTaggart 2. Karl Okane 3 Mickey McClements 4. Oran Quinn 5 Phelim Duffin 6 James McKeague 7.Chris Kearns 8. Peter Mckeague 9. Kevin McKeague 10. Kevin Molloy 11. Nicky McKeague 12. Miceal Murphy 13. Ali Dooey 14. Paddy Doherty 15. Chrissy Brogan

Karl, Phelim, Peter, Miceal were subs most of last year. Kevin Molloy is a back and i dont know why he was in the forwards.

No shorty, Nancy, kevin McQuillian or Nigel Elliott in the forwards which is a loss. Interestingly there was no minors starting that game. We have a few who i think should be in there for a try out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 31, 2015, 12:42:24 PM
Thanks for that.

Will Sean Dowds not be playing or is he still abroad? What about Paddy Richmond?

As someone said earlier Dunloy probably don't have the depth Loughgiel have so can't afford to lose 4 or 5 but come the Championship their first 16-17 will give anyone in Antrim their fill of it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 31, 2015, 11:34:39 AM
MR2 / HS

How will the Naomh Gall Rossa game be affected by the county bog-ballers?
Change of time or date or dare I say players unavailable?

I haven't a clue in fairness, been away since September, only back couple weeks, games at 5 on Sunday, I'll be in Tenerife so let me know how the game goes 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 31, 2015, 12:42:24 PM
Thanks for that.

Will Sean Dowds not be playing or is he still abroad? What about Paddy Richmond?

As someone said earlier Dunloy probably don't have the depth Loughgiel have so can't afford to lose 4 or 5 but come the Championship their first 16-17 will give anyone in Antrim their fill of it.

Sean is in Australia and wont be playing. Paddy retired a season ago and wont be back again.

We didnt have great numbers there at under age for a few seasons and what we had played 'B' grade. It will take us a few years to get a competitive 21 panel to match everyone else.

The 15 we start with should give us a decent shout but we wont be favs to win the championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
I mistaken Nicky mc keague for Nigel Elliot.  Just mixed up the names  :o full strength dunloy have some very nice hurlers for sure. Prob say  c,dall, Loughgiel, dunloy , Ballycastle , St galls.  In that order of betting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?
In all honesty I don't think he's 40 yet. Paddy is around 35 so I reckon Nancy is around 38/39.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?
In all honesty I don't think he's 40 yet. Paddy is around 35 so I reckon Nancy is around 38/39.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?

He would be 37ish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 31, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 08:25:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?

hes just through a big back operation
he wont be hurling this year
woody has hamstring issues as well
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?
In all honesty I don't think he's 40 yet. Paddy is around 35 so I reckon Nancy is around 38/39.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 31, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 31, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Nigel did his cruciate that day against Cdall in the semi final so hes a bit off playing. Kevin McQuillian is injured as well, hes another loss, Nancy is due a back operation and wont be seen for a while. So really we have only shorty to come back in there.
I would expect to see alot of minors getting a try out through the season.
what age is Nancy?
He must be 44?
lol haha. There's no way he's 44  ;D

He's younger than that for sure!! Would he be 40?

He would be 37ish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
hes 37, same age as me. hes as young as hell! lol

Paddy is 35
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 01, 2015, 10:28:17 PM
At long last, what we have been all waiting for this weekend with the start of the hirling leagues. I hope the weather clears a bit before the matches start on Saturday. For a bit of craic and discussion, here are my predictions, what do you think?

Division 1
Ballycran V Dunloy: Ballycran by 3
Portaferry V Ballycastle: Ballycastle by 2
St John's V Loughgiel: Loughgiel by 5
Clooney V Cushendall: Cushendall by 9
St Galls V Rossa: Rossa by 2

Division 2
Ballygalget V St Paul's: Ballygalget by 7
Cushendun V Carey: Carey by 2
Cloughmills V Glenariff: Cloughmills by 2
Armoy V Creggan: Creggan by 3
Gortnamona V Sarsfields: Sarsfields by 4


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
I'd agree with that bonamagey altho Ballycastle might find that trip a mile too far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 01, 2015, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2015, 10:48:24 PM
I'd agree with that bonamagey altho Ballycastle might find that trip a mile too far.

Now behave! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 02, 2015, 10:05:58 AM
Cant see us getting a result, the teams a bit depleted with ones working on sat and injuries. Ballycran should beat us easy enough.

Division 1
Ballycran V Dunloy: Ballycran by 10
Portaferry V Ballycastle: Portaferry by 4
St John's V Loughgiel: Loughgiel by 8
Clooney V Cushendall: Cushendall by 12
St Galls V Rossa: Rossa by 6

Division 2
Ballygalget V St Paul's: Ballygalget by 10
Cushendun V Carey: Carey by 2
Cloughmills V Glenariff: Cloughmills by 2
Armoy V Creggan: Creggan by 5
Gortnamona V Sarsfields: Sarsfields by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 02, 2015, 10:58:03 AM
Would Carey not be bigger favourites against Cushendun than what is being suggested on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 02, 2015, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on April 02, 2015, 10:58:03 AM
Would Carey not be bigger favourites against Cushendun than what is being suggested on here?

Based on form, definitely. But as it's a local derby it evens it up by a couple of points. First game between these two since the formation of Naomh Padraig.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 02, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=234806

Article on play acting in hurling. No room for this in our beautiful game. Hurling is up there with rugby in terms of toughness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
St Patricks being the amalgamation of Cary & Cushendun at undergae - but now they play separately at senior? Interesting backdrop for sure!
Carey should win easy.

I like to remind my St John's friends that Corrigan has been the scene of some play acting for years now! I hold my hands up to say the City lads don't always take their knocks as part of the game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 02, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
St Patricks being the amalgamation of Cary & Cushendun at undergae - but now they play separately at senior? Interesting backdrop for sure!
Carey should win easy.

I like to remind my St John's friends that Corrigan has been the scene of some play acting for years now! I hold my hands up to say the City lads don't always take their knocks as part of the game!

Carey, Cushendun and Armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 02, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
St Patricks being the amalgamation of Cary & Cushendun at undergae - but now they play separately at senior? Interesting backdrop for sure!
Carey should win easy.

I like to remind my St John's friends that Corrigan has been the scene of some play acting for years now! I hold my hands up to say the City lads don't always take their knocks as part of the game!

Naomh Padraig is Carey, Armoy and Cushendun at underage. The reason I think it will be tighter than normal is that Carey  are under new management after big McCormick left them to join our minor management this year and they have had a bad start. They will have 3/4 players playing an all Ireland colleges final with CPC on Saturday in Thurles. If they play on Sunday for Carey, they should win handy enough, but will they be in a condition to play? Without these players and a couple of injuries they have struggled in pre season games, they have lost heavily in nearly all their games, lost by 13 to Glenariff last weekend and 16 to Cushendall reserves the week before. Based on that, I think it will be tight enough, but Carey should win it all the same, especially if the CPC players are on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 02, 2015, 01:44:00 PM
I'm sure given time the new manager will do a fine job at Carey. Cubby is part of that management setup again and as long as he is involved Carey will do fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2015, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 02, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
St Patricks being the amalgamation of Cary & Cushendun at undergae - but now they play separately at senior? Interesting backdrop for sure!
Carey should win easy.

I like to remind my St John's friends that Corrigan has been the scene of some play acting for years now! I hold my hands up to say the City lads don't always take their knocks as part of the game!

Naomh Padraig is Carey, Armoy and Cushendun at underage. The reason I think it will be tighter than normal is that Carey  are under new management after big McCormick left them to join our minor management this year and they have had a bad start. They will have 3/4 players playing an all Ireland colleges final with CPC on Saturday in Thurles. If they play on Sunday for Carey, they should win handy enough, but will they be in a condition to play? Without these players and a couple of injuries they have struggled in pre season games, they have lost heavily in nearly all their games, lost by 13 to Glenariff last weekend and 16 to Cushendall reserves the week before. Based on that, I think it will be tight enough, but Carey should win it all the same, especially if the CPC players are on board.
How come big Sean packed it in for Carey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 02, 2015, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 02, 2015, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 02, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
St Patricks being the amalgamation of Cary & Cushendun at undergae - but now they play separately at senior? Interesting backdrop for sure!
Carey should win easy.

I like to remind my St John's friends that Corrigan has been the scene of some play acting for years now! I hold my hands up to say the City lads don't always take their knocks as part of the game!

Naomh Padraig is Carey, Armoy and Cushendun at underage. The reason I think it will be tighter than normal is that Carey  are under new management after big McCormick left them to join our minor management this year and they have had a bad start. They will have 3/4 players playing an all Ireland colleges final with CPC on Saturday in Thurles. If they play on Sunday for Carey, they should win handy enough, but will they be in a condition to play? Without these players and a couple of injuries they have struggled in pre season games, they have lost heavily in nearly all their games, lost by 13 to Glenariff last weekend and 16 to Cushendall reserves the week before. Based on that, I think it will be tight enough, but Carey should win it all the same, especially if the CPC players are on board.
How come big Sean packed it in for Carey?

Don't know. He had Carey playing decent stuff there for a couple of years. My nephew is in our minor panel and since he started coaching with them this year, they are very impressed. Apparently he is very organised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Just reading the hogan stand website;

"The league is over and done with now. A nice bit of progress from last year. We will let the lads back to their clubs now and let them come back fresh to us," said Whelehan

But Antrim know better. We don't need club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 03, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Just reading the hogan stand website;

"The league is over and done with now. A nice bit of progress from last year. We will let the lads back to their clubs now and let them come back fresh to us," said Whelehan

But Antrim know better. We don't need club hurling.
Easier for him to say that. Antrim have a relegation play off & Offaly don't have to play in the Round Robin. There's league games on this weekend which county players will be playing in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2015, 11:41:05 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 03, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 03, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
Just reading the hogan stand website;

"The league is over and done with now. A nice bit of progress from last year. We will let the lads back to their clubs now and let them come back fresh to us," said Whelehan

But Antrim know better. We don't need club hurling.
Easier for him to say that. Antrim have a relegation play off & Offaly don't have to play in the Round Robin. There's league games on this weekend which county players will be playing in.

The point is the willingness of other counties (indeed the necessity) to foster the club season - most normally Cody.
Antrim have no interest in this - leaving the club season at the mercy the county team.
And the simple fact is that it's not working.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The big clubs couldn't care less about league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The big clubs couldn't care less about league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.

I think that's a lazy comment that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. Are you really happy with that statement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 03, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Lets not fool ourselves here. The hard truth is that our county team/squad is not good enough for division 1B. Our current crop of players are at a division 2 standard. Take our 3/4 best performers (McAuley/Graffin/Shorty/McManus), none of them would get onto the starting Tipperary/Dublin/Kilkenny/Waterford/Limerick/Cork teams. Not good enough. Its not their fault, they dedicate their lives to this county but we have not given them strong enough coaching at a younger age to make them good enough at senior level. Club scene also needs to be addressed. Why should a very poor county team, which we are, hold the club scene to ransom every year with this circus.

Lets forget about our big ideas on the intercounty front for a while, drop down to division 2, bring in an antrim man as manager, focus on club scene and put more effort into developing the youth. Just my opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 12:31:30 PM
I've suggested similar in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 01:03:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 link=topic=1347.msg1455233#msg1455233 date=1428rate 060it 245
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The. They big clubs couldn't  care less about  league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.

I think that's a lazy comment that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. Are you really happy with that statement
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There is no promotion as a result. There is no relegation. There is no incentive (it doesn't get you to an ulster or all Ireland) There is minimal intensity to these league games. They are simply used as preparation for championship. The best team in the county year in year out is considered to be the championship winners, not league. Skull, you know very well it's all about championship. Who are you kidding?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The big clubs couldn't care less about league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.

I think that's a lazy comment that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. Are you really happy with that statement
never ever does any club, should it be mc auley cup, feis cup, league, or championship, go onto the pitch with anything other than winning in mind. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 03, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The big clubs couldn't care less about league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.

I think that's a lazy comment that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. Are you really happy with that statement
never ever does any club, should it be mc auley cup, feis cup, league, or championship, go onto the pitch with anything other than winning in mind.

Agreed,
    The problem is that the 'big' clubs can afford to leave out/rest some of their first choicers and still win most games handy enough.
Its up to the rest of us to improve and push them harder all the way to make the leagues more cut throat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2015, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 03, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Lets not fool ourselves here. The hard truth is that our county team/squad is not good enough for division 1B. Our current crop of players are at a division 2 standard. Take our 3/4 best performers (McAuley/Graffin/Shorty/McManus), none of them would get onto the starting Tipperary/Dublin/Kilkenny/Waterford/Limerick/Cork teams. Not good enough. Its not their fault, they dedicate their lives to this county but we have not given them strong enough coaching at a younger age to make them good enough at senior level. Club scene also needs to be addressed. Why should a very poor county team, which we are, hold the club scene to ransom every year with this circus.

Lets forget about our big ideas on the intercounty front for a while, drop down to division 2, bring in an antrim man as manager, focus on club scene and put more effort into developing the youth. Just my opinion

Couldn't have put it better myself. So true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 03, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
The big clubs couldn't care less about league. Our club scene this year will come down to 3 games and for me that is a major issue.

I think that's a lazy comment that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny. Are you really happy with that statement
never ever does any club, should it be mc auley cup, feis cup, league, or championship, go onto the pitch with anything other than winning in mind.

Mcauley cup this year - Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 04:59:02 PM
Maybe I should speak for my own club then just. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 03, 2015, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 03, 2015, 12:28:29 PM
Lets not fool ourselves here. The hard truth is that our county team/squad is not good enough for division 1B. Our current crop of players are at a division 2 standard. Take our 3/4 best performers (McAuley/Graffin/Shorty/McManus), none of them would get onto the starting Tipperary/Dublin/Kilkenny/Waterford/Limerick/Cork teams. Not good enough. Its not their fault, they dedicate their lives to this county but we have not given them strong enough coaching at a younger age to make them good enough at senior level. Club scene also needs to be addressed. Why should a very poor county team, which we are, hold the club scene to ransom every year with this circus.

Lets forget about our big ideas on the intercounty front for a while, drop down to division 2, bring in an antrim man as manager, focus on club scene and put more effort into developing the youth. Just my opinion
+1

Extremely unfair to Westmeath and Kerry also, finish with no pints in Div. 1B, and still get a life line playing the eventual winners of 2A!

Hardly seems fair in my book, what can the motivation be for the teams in Div. 2A?  I am not so sure about having a domestic in place managing Antrim, too much baggage to handle. 

I am still of the opinion of going outside the county, but lets get someone credible. e.g. Gerald McCarthy, Donal O'Grady, Justin McCarthy, Eamon Creggan, Cyril Farrell, Babs or Nicky English?  If Dinny and Ryan are not good enough to manage Tipp and Waterford respectively, maybe we are looking at 2nd rate messiahs and should look elsewhere, but do we have the money to pay? 

In the final analysis, I would have to agree that we have no god given right to remain in Div. 1B, maybe just a token gesture by Croke Park in an attempt to keep hurling alive in Ulster.  A trifle hard and in some respects immoral treating Div. 2A teams in such a manner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2015, 07:51:33 PM
So Kevin and Dinny can now be seen as second rate Messiah's and not the real deal. How grossly convenient! Let's blame the manager again because our players cant/ wont/arnt able to do it. Dinny and Kevin are two 100% capable hurling men who gave/are giving huge amounts for Antrim hurling.

Maybe it's time to realise that we just cannot put out 15 players to match the better teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2015, 07:51:33 PM
So Kevin and Dinny can now be seen as second rate Messiah's and not the real deal. How grossly convenient! Let's blame the manager again because our players cant/ wont/arnt able to do it. Dinny and Kevin are two 100% capable hurling men who gave/are giving huge amounts for Antrim hurling.

Maybe it's time to realise that we just cannot put out 15 players to match the better teams.
+1. Dinny had us playing as good as we can expect in his 1st spell.  It's time the players that's there take responsibility. There so happy and everything is the way they want it to be.  So if the results aren't coming.  It's time for D2.  End of
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 03, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 03, 2015, 07:51:33 PM
So Kevin and Dinny can now be seen as second rate Messiah's and not the real deal. How grossly convenient! Let's blame the manager again because our players cant/ wont/arnt able to do it. Dinny and Kevin are two 100% capable hurling men who gave/are giving huge amounts for Antrim hurling.

Maybe it's time to realise that we just cannot put out 15 players to match the better teams. 
A fair point indeed, its the players on the pitch on any given day will determine our results (or lack of them).  But lame and repetitive excuses from managers are doing nothing for us either.

I would have to agree, we do not have our best 15 at our disposal and cannot blame the manager for that, or maybe in some respects we can!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 03, 2015, 08:54:25 PM
A county manager must nail his colours to the mast every time he names a team. As keyboard experts we can sit back and pick holes in that time after time.

I'd love to see some of the first fifteens some on here would put out. And let others debate the merits or otherwise of those who didn't make it.

That's the hard bit. Everything else is far too cosy. So who wants to throw the ball in first. 

I didn't think so.....


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 03, 2015, 09:18:10 PM
I asked the question not so long ago.... there wasnt many replies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 10:50:46 PM
What question is that?   I tip my hat to the lads that's there.  Training hard from early in the year.  But if your going to talk the talk.  You have to walk the walk.  Plain and simple. No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 11:06:55 PM
A fully fit and available for selection. 
Ryan Mc Garry
Martin Burke
Cormac Donnelly
Aaron Grafin
Neil Mc Auley
Neil Mc Manus
James Campbell
Paul Shields
Paddy Mc Naughton
Eddie Mc Closkey
Stephan Mc Afee
Shay Casey
Ciaran Clarke
Liam watson
Shane Mc Naughton

Now Id have to sit and think about a bigger panel.  Obviously a couple of positions there up for grabs. No city men there but that's not on purpose, a lot of young talent there.  But I think that team with the right training and no bull shit.  Would give a great account of themselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 04, 2015, 01:12:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 03, 2015, 11:06:55 PM
A fully fit and available for selection. 
Ryan Mc Garry
Martin Burke
Cormac Donnelly
Aaron Grafin
Neil Mc Auley
Neil Mc Manus
James Campbell
Paul Shields
Paddy Mc Naughton
Eddie Mc Closkey
Stephan Mc Afee
Shay Casey
Ciaran Clarke
Liam watson
Shane Mc Naughton

Now Id have to sit and think about a bigger panel.  Obviously a couple of positions there up for grabs. No city men there but that's not on purpose, a lot of young talent there.  But I think that team with the right training and no bull shit.  Would give a great account of themselves
Probably, and I emphasise probably somewhere close to our best 15, but they have all not made themselves/are not available for various reasons???  I would argue about a few of your selections and the exclusion of city players, but then again your a North Antrim man. 'the bull shit you allude to???

At the end of the day, maybe our ambitions far exceed our ability when it really comes down to it, but should we really stop trying, give up the ghost as they say??  Fair to say we can rule out Donnelly and Watson.  Shay Casey would be an omission in my selection also, most certainly not county material and not physically strong enough.  McNaughton another passenger in my book along with Campbell.  You can only select those who make themselves available and demonstrate commitment!  Thereby, your selection is somewhat meaningless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 04, 2015, 01:51:46 AM
I did say some postions were still there to be filled. That was simply of the top of my head. And I didn't say it was meaningful, simply replying to Bannside loving to see some of our starting 15. make no bones about it.  I love my county and try to get to as many matches as I can. But they deserve to be in D2,  doesn't make me a bad person for speaking my mind.  They haven't done what they've set out to do and westmeath or Kerry deserve there chance.  Maybe a year down would do us no harm. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 04, 2015, 09:18:49 AM
Pick a team from the players prepared to commit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
And those actually selected and allowed to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 10:02:10 AM
Regardless of SGs personal selection - the fact is that his team is superior to the current one.

Whilst I support those who commit - it's the county's job to ensure our best team is on the pitch.

Until then we will never know - but what's sure now is that we must accept our true level is indeed far below our ambitions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 10:27:18 AM
This would be my team:
Dd
Ryan mc cambridge
neilly mcgarry
A graffin
Neal mcauley 
tony mccloskey 
woody
Duck 
n mcmanus
Michael armstrong
shorty 
eddie
Connor johnson
winker 
shanebo

Subs
Chrissy
Pj o connell
Chris mcguinness
Gerard Walsh
Mcclelland (rossa)
Saul mccaughan
Clarkie
Campbell
Molloy
Mckeague
Conor mccann
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on April 04, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
Any thoughts on the County hurling league restructure for next year, looks like it's been agreed and all without being put to the clubs.


03 April 2015
The structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.
The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 - 8 Teams
Division 3 - Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 04, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 04, 2015, 09:18:49 AM
Pick a team from the players prepared to commit.
who in my team isn't prepared to commit. there's a lad that has openly spoken out that he'd love to be back in the county colours. am getting sick of this crap to be honest.  Maybe use men should make your way over to Loughgiel and have a chat with Liam. Ask him his side and see if he would be ready to commit.  You have to be asked to play,to actually play.  Done with this all. Antrim senior hurlers deserve to be in D2. This is the 3rd time in two days I've said this.  Anyone agree???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 12:41:21 PM
Quote from: glensgael on April 04, 2015, 12:28:41 PM
Any thoughts on the County hurling league restructure for next year, looks like it's been agreed and all without being put to the clubs.


03 April 2015
The structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.
The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 - 8 Teams
Division 3 - Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015

Past considering it - sure it'll change again on a whim anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 04, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 04, 2015, 09:18:49 AM
Pick a team from the players prepared to commit.
who in my team isn't prepared to commit. there's a lad that has openly spoken out that he'd love to be back in the county colours. am getting sick of this crap to be honest.  Maybe use men should make your way over to Loughgiel and have a chat with Liam. Ask him his side and see if he would be ready to commit.  You have to be asked to play,to actually play.  Done with this all. Antrim senior hurlers deserve to be in D2. This is the 3rd time in two days I've said this.  Anyone agree???

Would Winker play if asked? If so get him in. Would Eddie go back and commit? Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 04, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 04, 2015, 09:18:49 AM
Pick a team from the players prepared to commit.
who in my team isn't prepared to commit. there's a lad that has openly spoken out that he'd love to be back in the county colours. am getting sick of this crap to be honest.  Maybe use men should make your way over to Loughgiel and have a chat with Liam. Ask him his side and see if he would be ready to commit.  You have to be asked to play,to actually play.  Done with this all. Antrim senior hurlers deserve to be in D2. This is the 3rd time in two days I've said this.  Anyone agree???

Would Winker play if asked? If so get him in. Would Eddie go back and commit? Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
yes and yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 04, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
My team and Panel

Chris o Connell

Ryan McCambridge, Cormac Donnelly, Aaron Graffin

Neal McAuley, Conor McKinley, Kevin Molloy

Ciaran Johnson, Mark McFadden

Eddie McCloskey, Neil McManus, Paul Shiels

Ciaran Clarke, Liam Watson, Shane McNaughton

Ryan McGarry, Michael Bradley, Odhran McFadden, Stephen Shannon
Simon McCrory, Conor mcclelland, Jackson McGreevy, Eoghan Campbell
Tony McCloskey, Stephen McAfee, PJ o Connell
Shea Casey, Dan McCloskey, Conor Carson, Saul McCaughan

Also i would want Antrim to to look at entering a 2nd team into the Intermediate Hurling Championship, were you may be able to get a few more players through for the following year, like the way the bigger counties seem to do.

Players i would look to go to this team would be:

Eoin Gillan, Martin Burke, Paddy Burke, Paddy McGill, Cormac McClafferty and Christy McNaughton - Ruairi Og
Ronan McCloskey, Tiernan Coyle, James Campbell, James McNaughton and Maol Connolly - Loughgiel
Kevin McKeague, Nicky McKeague and  Nigel Elliott - Dunloy
Ciaran Butler, Matthew Donnelly,  James McShane, Eoin McAlonan and Shane Jennings - Ballycastle
Conor McCann and Thomas McCann - Creggan
Darren Hamill - Glenarm
Tomas O'Ciarnan - St Galls
Daniel Mckernan, Kevin McKernan and Niall McKenna - Sarsfields
Stephen Beattie, Michael Armstrong, Gerard Walsh, Deaglan Murphy and Seaghnan Shannon - Rossa
Michael Dudley and Conor Johnston - St Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Any updates on the schools final whether your at it or watching on tg4 would be appreciated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 03:36:37 PM
Cpc leading 6-5 after 21 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 04, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Any updates on the schools final whether your at it or watching on tg4 would be appreciated.

Ballycastle lead 9 8 at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 03:59:46 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 04, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Any updates on the schools final whether your at it or watching on tg4 would be appreciated.

Ballycastle lead 9 8 at half time.

Cheers for updates. Must be tight enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:01:20 PM
I only found it on tv by chance. I saw the last twenty minutes there of the first half. Seems to be a fierce game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:11:53 PM
Cpc 11-10 up. Ten minutes gone second half. Coming under serious pressure at the minute but defence holding up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:18:57 PM
Cpc 3 points up. Around 12 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
Into the last minute. Cpc 1-16 rath 1-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Congrats to cpc. All Ireland champions.   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Congrats to cpc. All Ireland champions again.  8)

Thanks SIE. Your not as bad as all the rest of them make out  ;)

Another great acheivement by CPC. Well done all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Congrats to cpc. All Ireland champions again.  8)

Thanks SIE. Your not as bad as all the rest of them make out  ;)

Another great acheivement by CPC. Well done all.
Their jerseys are a fair bit better quality than the ones we were given in my day there. Lol. That was a long time ago though.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 04, 2015, 06:09:45 PM
Great achievement by CPC, well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 04, 2015, 07:59:19 PM
Well done to CPC. Great achievement. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on April 04, 2015, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
Congrats to cpc. All Ireland champions again.  8)

Thanks SIE. Your not as bad as all the rest of them make out  ;)

Another great acheivement by CPC. Well done all.
Their jerseys are a fair bit better quality than the ones we were given in my day there. Lol. That was a long time ago though.  ;)

Aye I remember wearing a cpc top that had 3 big hoops, red,yellow and maybe black. It  certainly wasn't like any of the tops they wear now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 04, 2015, 09:08:35 PM
Congratulations to CPC which I make it they have won this tournament 3 times in last 7 years. Also I think St Mary's have won it as well once in the last 8 years. Should we not be looking at the Mageean Champions to play in the 'A' All Ireland?

Or are we happy at playing at 'B' level were Ulster sides have won 4 out of the last 8 finals?

Should we try to play at a higher level and bring ourselves on or are we happy playing in a division were we clearly have a good chance of winning?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
So Kerry it is then. Interesting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
So Kerry it is then. Interesting!

Are Kerry any good and Where will the game be?

Was that an "a" or "b" tournament for ballycastle?
Congratulations regardless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
So Kerry it is then. Interesting!

Are Kerry any good and Where will the game be?

Was that an "a" or "b" tournament for ballycastle?
Congratulations regardless.

B tournament against a Laois team. I think the score was 5.17 to 3.17 for Kerry. The game is next weekend and I'm guessing the venue will be decided asap. 2nd year in a row they've won that division. Could be a close enough affair as our squad is fairly average.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2015, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
So Kerry it is then. Interesting!

Are Kerry any good and Where will the game be?

Was that an "a" or "b" tournament for ballycastle?
Congratulations regardless.

B tournament against a Laois team. I think the score was 5.17 to 3.17 for Kerry. The game is next weekend and I'm guessing the venue will be decided asap. 2nd year in a row they've won that division. Could be a close enough affair as our squad is fairly average.

If you win a division you should be promoted, end of story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 04, 2015, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2015, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
So Kerry it is then. Interesting!

Are Kerry any good and Where will the game be?

Was that an "a" or "b" tournament for ballycastle?
Congratulations regardless.

B tournament against a Laois team. I think the score was 5.17 to 3.17 for Kerry. The game is next weekend and I'm guessing the venue will be decided asap. 2nd year in a row they've won that division. Could be a close enough affair as our squad is fairly average.

If you win a division you should be promoted, end of story.

Hard for any rational person to argue with that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 04, 2015, 11:32:27 PM
Agreed. Not fair on the team winning their division and Antrim deserve to go down after 5 defeats from 5 games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 05, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on April 04, 2015, 09:08:35 PM
Congratulations to CPC which I make it they have won this tournament 3 times in last 7 years. Also I think St Mary's have won it as well once in the last 8 years. Should we not be looking at the Mageean Champions to play in the 'A' All Ireland?

Or are we happy at playing at 'B' level were Ulster sides have won 4 out of the last 8 finals?

Should we try to play at a higher level and bring ourselves on or are we happy playing in a division were we clearly have a good chance of winning?
Played A in 93/94 and got tanked. The standard in the A match looked good today but something to aim for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 05, 2015, 02:19:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on April 04, 2015, 09:08:35 PM
Congratulations to CPC which I make it they have won this tournament 3 times in last 7 years. Also I think St Mary's have won it as well once in the last 8 years. Should we not be looking at the Mageean Champions to play in the 'A' All Ireland?

Or are we happy at playing at 'B' level were Ulster sides have won 4 out of the last 8 finals?

Should we try to play at a higher level and bring ourselves on or are we happy playing in a division were we clearly have a good chance of winning?

The A games were getting really bad with some massive tankings. Unfortunately it's been a long time since an ulster underage team was competutive bar our u21s that one year so b abiut the right level :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2015, 09:46:36 AM
St Kierans have won the Dr croke cup twenty times. The closest to them have won it 5 times. Some set up they have there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 05, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
Good result for Glenariffe against Cloughmills, 2-13 to 5-16
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 05, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
Any other league results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2015, 06:01:28 PM
Portaferry 1-15 ballycastle 1-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2015, 07:32:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 05, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
Any other league results?
They're on the County website lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on April 05, 2015, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2015, 02:19:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on April 04, 2015, 09:08:35 PM
Congratulations to CPC which I make it they have won this tournament 3 times in last 7 years. Also I think St Mary's have won it as well once in the last 8 years. Should we not be looking at the Mageean Champions to play in the 'A' All Ireland?

Or are we happy at playing at 'B' level were Ulster sides have won 4 out of the last 8 finals?

Should we try to play at a higher level and bring ourselves on or are we happy playing in a division were we clearly have a good chance of winning?

The A games were getting really bad with some massive tankings. Unfortunately it's been a long time since an ulster underage team was competutive bar our u21s that one year so b abiut the right level :-\
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Don't think its a case of settling for B hurling, the ulster schools just don't have the depth to challenge the top schools in Leinster and Munster at A level. The Mageean winners in the last 10 years have a very good record in the B all Ireland but remember in the previous 35 years to that only St Marys had won a B title. That would suggest the level in Ulster has improved but is still not up to A standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 07, 2015, 12:02:19 PM
Got to 2 second halfs this weekend if that counts as one game!

Loughgiel (missing a good few) kept St. John's at arms length.

St Galls were never within arms length of rossa really disappointing.

Had an idea that the trip to portaferry might be too far for the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2015, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 07, 2015, 12:02:19 PM
Got to 2 second halfs this weekend if that counts as one game!

Loughgiel (missing a good few) kept St. John's at arms length.

St Galls were never within arms length of rossa really disappointing.

Had an idea that the trip to portaferry might be too far for the town.

I'm on hols btdtgtt.... Did we have a decent team out?? Or have Rossa improved further from last year in Div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 07, 2015, 12:50:00 PM
Gort Na Mona beating Sarsfields in an ill tempered game was a surprise too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 07, 2015, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 07, 2015, 12:48:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 07, 2015, 12:02:19 PM
Got to 2 second halfs this weekend if that counts as one game!

Loughgiel (missing a good few) kept St. John's at arms length.

St Galls were never within arms length of rossa really disappointing.

Had an idea that the trip to portaferry might be too far for the town.

I'm on hols btdtgtt.... Did we have a decent team out?? Or have Rossa improved further from last year in Div 2

Didn't hear anything from the paddies v gort?

Only arrived at half time myself MR2. At that stage it was already over. A few loose strike the galls lads understandably frustrated by the score. You'se obviously haven't prepared much but even the likes of jackson who has been hurling had little impact. Rossa seemed a bit more physical than they have been of late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 07, 2015, 10:31:45 PM
Surprised at the Rossa v St Galls result, fancied Rossa but certainly not by that margin. Excellent result for GNM indeed, St Johns going close enough to Loughgiel isn't a terrible result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on April 08, 2015, 07:33:51 AM
Some free for all at Gorts v Sars, expected it to be competitive, good result for Gorts needed a more capable Ref for this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 08, 2015, 08:05:06 AM
Will the full set of hurling fixtures go ahead this Sunday with a number of fixtures down for the same time as Antrim's relegation playoff Sunday at 3pm.

Understand the chat had been if you have 15 or more available the matches are meant to go ahead. Interesting to see if that is enforced or whether clubs held to ransom again by the farce that is this relegation playoff!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 08, 2015, 08:20:19 AM
Quote from: Glensman on April 08, 2015, 08:05:06 AM
Will the full set of hurling fixtures go ahead this Sunday with a number of fixtures down for the same time as Antrim's relegation playoff Sunday at 3pm.

Understand the chat had been if you have 15 or more available the matches are meant to go ahead. Interesting to see if that is enforced or whether clubs held to ransom again by the farce that is this relegation playoff!
Antrim match is on Saturday Glensman so need to worry although I'd be suprised if the '15 available' would be enforced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 09:11:08 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 08, 2015, 07:33:51 AM
Some free for all at Gorts v Sars, expected it to be competitive, good result for Gorts needed a more capable Ref for this one.

with no promotion out of Div2 this year, a lot of the hurling won't matter a f**k, just so long as you're in the top six..

We beat St Pauls handy enough without playing well at all.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2015, 09:33:33 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 09:11:08 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on April 08, 2015, 07:33:51 AM
Some free for all at Gorts v Sars, expected it to be competitive, good result for Gorts needed a more capable Ref for this one.

with no promotion out of Div2 this year, a lot of the hurling won't matter a f**k, just so long as you're in the top six..

We beat St Pauls handy enough without playing well at all.

That is crap... No promotion?   why was the Gorts game so bad? Never really much bad blood there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
No promotion from division 2 is further example of the farce that is the antrim hurling leagues. They are tinkered with every single year. There's hardly much point in playing them at all since they don't even guarantee regular games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 08, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 08, 2015, 08:20:19 AM
Quote from: Glensman on April 08, 2015, 08:05:06 AM
Will the full set of hurling fixtures go ahead this Sunday with a number of fixtures down for the same time as Antrim's relegation playoff Sunday at 3pm.

Understand the chat had been if you have 15 or more available the matches are meant to go ahead. Interesting to see if that is enforced or whether clubs held to ransom again by the farce that is this relegation playoff!
Antrim match is on Saturday Glensman so need to worry although I'd be suprised if the '15 available' would be enforced.

Saw that in Irish News this morning - was up on
County website yesterday as being Sunday 3pm in Parnell! Saturday it is then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
No promotion from division 2 is further example of the farce that is the antrim hurling leagues. They are tinkered with every single year. There's hardly much point in playing them at all since they don't even guarantee regular games.

Well at least this year we know in advance how its going to pan out. Lots of other years it's decided either half way through the league or even when its over..

What we don't know as yet is in 2016, in the 8 team leagues, is it 2 up, 2 down or some other convoluted solution.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
No promotion from division 2 is further example of the farce that is the antrim hurling leagues. They are tinkered with every single year. There's hardly much point in playing them at all since they don't even guarantee regular games.

Well at least this year we know in advance how its going to pan out. Lots of other years it's decided either half way through the league or even when its over..

What we don't know as yet is in 2016, in the 8 team leagues, is it 2 up, 2 down or some other convoluted solution.

Like I said before JC - don't worry much thinking about it - sure there will be a few changes every week on a whim. It's just a sham of a league set up here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 08, 2015, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 08, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
No promotion from division 2 is further example of the farce that is the antrim hurling leagues. They are tinkered with every single year. There's hardly much point in playing them at all since they don't even guarantee regular games.

Well at least this year we know in advance how its going to pan out. Lots of other years it's decided either half way through the league or even when its over..

What we don't know as yet is in 2016, in the 8 team leagues, is it 2 up, 2 down or some other convoluted solution.

Having no promotion for the teams winning this years leagues is ridiculous and unfair on the league champions in divisions 2,3 and 4. The proposal at convention was that it would be 2 up 2 down after the end of 2016 season. (They will of course fiddle with that before then lol)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 08, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
Massive shock in sarsfields getting beat by gnm. Also impressive stuff from glenariffe with rumours going about that Johnny tosh is back? Anyone know why carey cushendun wasn't played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 08, 2015, 05:48:08 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 08, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
Massive shock in sarsfields getting beat by gnm. Also impressive stuff from glenariffe with rumours going about that Johnny tosh is back? Anyone know why carey cushendun wasn't played?

Game was abandoned because of...... Wait for it.... Fog!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 08, 2015, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 08, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
Massive shock in sarsfields getting beat by gnm. Also impressive stuff from glenariffe with rumours going about that Johnny tosh is back? Anyone know why carey cushendun wasn't played?

Yes Johnny Tosh played against us in the North Antrim league. Apparently Carey V Cushendun was abandoned after 10 minutes because of fog.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 08, 2015, 06:05:45 PM
What a boost regardless of age. Still a quality player no doubt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2015, 09:43:39 PM
I hear Glenariffe have a few ex Glenarm players in their ranks also now. One or maybe 2 of the McDermott brothers. Also a big boost for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
All-ireland intermediate in mind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 08, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Could give division 2 and the intermediate a good crack this year. Maybe moved favourites for intermediate along with sarsfields now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 08, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
All-ireland intermediate in mind?

Aye, and the Super Bowl & Grand National  :D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 08, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
All-ireland intermediate in mind?

Aye, and the Super Bowl & Grand National  :D
I have heard Henry Shefflin has left Kilkenny just to play for the Oisins. €150k a year some are saying  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 09, 2015, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 08, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
All-ireland intermediate in mind?

Aye, and the Super Bowl & Grand National  :D
I have heard Henry Shefflin has left Kilkenny just to play for the Oisins. €150k a year some are saying  :)

Is Stevie Fagan still up there bankrolling that particular transfer? Thought I saw him in Kircubbin recently?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 09, 2015, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 09, 2015, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 08, 2015, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 08, 2015, 10:45:11 PM
All-ireland intermediate in mind?

Aye, and the Super Bowl & Grand National  :D
I have heard Henry Shefflin has left Kilkenny just to play for the Oisins. €150k a year some are saying  :)

Is Stevie Fagan still up there bankrolling that particular transfer? Thought I saw him in Kircubbin recently?

I don't think he is about anymore, could be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 09, 2015, 10:35:31 PM
Strong looking Antrim defence for Saturday - less confident with the forwards.
Shouldn't matter - Kerry should be put away without fuss if we're worth anything.

I noticed journalists saw fit to ask about the lack of automatic promotion - it's clearly not right.
And the gaa official's response was bluff and bluster with nothing concrete to justify the system.

Not to worry - hopefully an easy win to set us up for round-robin. Again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 09, 2015, 10:41:57 PM
Lets hope they dont get asking about the lack of automatic promotion in the antrim leagues!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 09, 2015, 10:45:54 PM
Ryan McCambridge is a big loss at corner back. Forward line brutal as it has been all season. If anything it's even weaker for this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2015, 08:31:05 AM
zero pace up the middle of that forward line with big carson and matty in 11 & 14. The two corners in Clarke and PJ have plenty of pace, i can only hope that they can do plenty of damage.

Defence looks strong and its good to see eoghan campbell back in midfield instead of the forwards.

i can only hope they get the job done but as others have said that forward line doesnt strike fear into anyone, shorty aside that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 10, 2015, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 10, 2015, 08:31:05 AM
zero pace up the middle of that forward line with big carson and matty in 11 & 14. The two corners in Clarke and PJ have plenty of pace, i can only hope that they can do plenty of damage.

Defence looks strong and its good to see eoghan campbell back in midfield instead of the forwards.

i can only hope they get the job done but as others have said that forward line doesnt strike fear into anyone, shorty aside that is.

Kerry have been 'recruiting' well from both Tipp and Clare in recent years, I wouldn't be taking them lightly if I were Antrim!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 10, 2015, 10:39:20 AM
Good to see Barry McFall back in the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 10, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
Predictions for the weekend.

Antrim V Kerry: Antrim by 6

Portaferry V Dunloy: Portaferry by 2
McQuillan V Rossa: McQuillan by 4
St John's V Clooney: St John's by 6
St Galls V Loughgiel: Loughgiel by 12
Ballycran V Cushendall: Cushendall by 2

St Paul's V Armoy: St Paul's by 5
Creggan V Gortnamona: Creggan by 3
Sarsfields V Cloughmills: Sarsfields by 4
Carey V Ballygalget: Ballygalget by 9
Glenariff V Cushendun: Glenariff by 11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
Agree with all results bonamagey except a potential draw in portaferry and I think ballycran will beat cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 10, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
Agree with all results bonamagey except a potential draw in portaferry and I think ballycran will beat cushendall.

Yes, I think those two games will be a toss of a coin either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 10, 2015, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
Agree with all results bonamagey except a potential draw in portaferry and I think ballycran will beat cushendall.

Ports and Crans need to make hay in their home fixtures and Ports possibly look better placed to take another two against Dunloy who do seem to be lacking strength in depth. Still think the Dall will get the points in Mckenna park.

We really haven't a baldy what Carey would be like, is Cosie, the ex Ballycastle man still lining out for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on April 10, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 10, 2015, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
Agree with all results bonamagey except a potential draw in portaferry and I think ballycran will beat cushendall.

Ports and Crans need to make hay in their home fixtures and Ports possibly look better placed to take another two against Dunloy who do seem to be lacking strength in depth. Still think the Dall will get the points in Mckenna park.

We really haven't a baldy what Carey would be like, is Cosie, the ex Ballycastle man still lining out for them?

Carey are strong enough at home but you should still be beating them by 5 or 6 at least

Think Cossie plays for Armoy now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
Cossie is transferred from armoy back to ballycastle.
Apart from the clash of colours ballygalget will have no bother with Carey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 10, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 10, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
Cossie is transferred from armoy back to ballycastle.
Apart from the clash of colours ballygalget will have no bother with Carey.

I'm sure Ballycran will lend them an old set of jersies and make it feel like a local derby
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 11, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match on the wireless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 03:16:55 PM
Radio Kerry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 03:24:00 PM
They're commentating on the Hogan cup final but providing updates on the hurling match

6 points to 2 to Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 03:26:07 PM
9 to 2 Antrim (playing with the wind)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 03:28:35 PM
10 points to 2

31 mins played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 03:33:16 PM
HT

11 to 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 03:50:08 PM
12 to 4 Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
1-13 to 1-8 to Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
1-15 Antrim to 2-9 Kerry

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:11:12 PM
1-15 to 2-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 04:12:51 PM
Oh crap - please no
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:14:02 PM
2-13 to 1-15

Kerry 1 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Level 8 mins to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
1-17 to 2-13

Antrim 1 up 5 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 04:19:28 PM
Come in ta feck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:24:37 PM
Beat

2-16 to 1-18
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Unbelievable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 11, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
There'll be some games in Ballycastle next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Disappointing for Antrim but justice has been done. Kerry deserved to go up and Antrim deserved to go down.
+1. Sad times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Unbelievable

Really? Why is it unbelievable?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 11, 2015, 04:39:46 PM
This has been on the cards for a while now. Kevin Ryan shown to be a bluff. Time for him to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 11, 2015, 04:46:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Disappointing for Antrim but justice has been done. Kerry deserved to go up and Antrim deserved to go down.

Absolutely, imsurprised some suit from Croke Pk didn't walk onto the pitch after the game and say "it's best out of 3 lads".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 04:47:41 PM
Yes its one mans fault

Laois and Offaly (or Kerry) have no right to beat Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 11, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
Antrim will play in div 2a next year

Westmeath
Carlow
Derry
London
Kildare

At least we have a derby game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2015, 04:54:19 PM
Crap.

Oh well. You get what you deserve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 11, 2015, 04:58:30 PM
Dissapointing but fair play to Kerry
On reflection we just scraped past derry last year in the Ulster final so we are division 2 material at the minute
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 11, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Antrim playing in Div 2A next season because they are a Div 2A team. I'd be worried going into the Leinster round robin. Laois play in Ballycastle on the May Bank Holiday weekend & will probably hammer Antrim. Carlow will fancy their chance v Antrim in Dr Cullen Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 11, 2015, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Disappointing for Antrim but justice has been done. Kerry deserved to go up and Antrim deserved to go down.
Aye it shouldn't have to be like that but it's all the sweeter for Kerry. Antrim finally at their level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on April 11, 2015, 05:28:37 PM
there can be no justification now for keeping players away from their clubs. let them go to the county one night a week.play with their clubs at all games. if boys get injured thats how it goes. surely the viewing gaa public in antrim deserve to see the best teams every club can put out on the field for league and c'ship.get people back through the gates watching games. then pick the best 15 hurlers in antrim to play games. IMO would def include at least 2 more loughguile players. forget this only people who buy in nonsense. unfortunately this is what happens when you bring a coach in from the south who is then allowed to treat the county team like it was his own club team. saying that i dont blame kevin ryan one bit. he only went as far as the board allowed him to. personally i would love to see better club games consistently . to me it makes perfect sense that when the clubs are stronger then surely the county team will improve?????   really feel for all the players though. giving it all they have all year but sadly pawns in a bigger game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2015, 05:31:32 PM
Are we still on the "5 year plan"? We'll be in division 2b at this rate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 11, 2015, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 11, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Antrim playing in Div 2A next season because they are a Div 2A team. I'd be worried going into the Leinster round robin. Laois play in Ballycastle on the May Bank Holiday weekend & will probably hammer Antrim. Carlow will fancy their chance v Antrim in Dr Cullen Park.

There's a chance we could lose our first Ulster final in years
But sure it is what it is
Very disappointing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 05:37:59 PM
I would love SIE to take charge and get us back to the upper echelons of the game where we belong. Theres something we're all missing but he can see it. The man has vision
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 11, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 11, 2015, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 11, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Antrim playing in Div 2A next season because they are a Div 2A team. I'd be worried going into the Leinster round robin. Laois play in Ballycastle on the May Bank Holiday weekend & will probably hammer Antrim. Carlow will fancy their chance v Antrim in Dr Cullen Park.

There's a chance we could lose our first Ulster final in years
But sure it is what it is
Very disappointing

Dinny Cahill will have Derry fired up for any game with Antrim. Derry looking to go for the Christy Ring this year. It would be no surprise if Derry win the Ulster SHC. Today was no surprise especially after the Laois match in Armoy when Antrim insisted on playing a short ball out of defence with the wind at their back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 11, 2015, 05:45:47 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Unbelievable
Do you really thinks so? 7 defeats on the spin, losing does become habit. Embarrassing, but we are where we are because we deserve to be so.  Fair dues to Kerry, they got what they rightly deserved in the first place.  2nd rate manager, 2nd rate players = Div. 2A.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2015, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 11, 2015, 05:37:59 PM
I would love SIE to take charge and get us back to the upper echelons of the game where we belong. Theres something we're all missing but he can see it. The man has vision
at least my vision isn't blinkered.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 05:46:48 PM
Agree 100% with auld stock.  Also. Antrim shouldn't be in D2 BUT deserve to be in D2.  They may well win a few league games next year. But if the current league set up stands.  Could well struggle to get back up for a day or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 11, 2015, 05:47:49 PM
Antrim deserved to be relegated - today's merely confirmed that.
The blame for this lies 3ways - players, management, county executive.
The balance of blame is a matter of opinion.

But what is not up for opinion - is that our current modus operandi has not worked before, is not working now, and will not work in the future.

This has to change.
Put simply - is there any other "serious" hurling county that has such a token gesture of a club season?
I could write essay on essay on this but it all boils down to our neglect for the club level for the county level.
We got we deserve - it's a disaster of our own making.

But will it change?
I won't hold my breath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2015, 05:48:25 PM
It's loughgiel's fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
Am not saying for 1 second that it's any one persons fault.  Regardless of my opinion, but surely the answer is to put the best 30 hurlers in antrim on the panel.  Let them always hurl with there club and pick the best starting 15 that are fit come match day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2015, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 05:52:28 PM
Am not saying for 1 second that it's any one persons fault.  Regardless of my opinion, but surely the answer is to put the best 30 hurlers in antrim on the panel.  Let them always hurl with there club and pick the best starting 15 that are fit come match day
you're living in a dream world big man, a dream world.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 11, 2015, 05:58:34 PM
As bad as our season was, today I thought 'surely not!'. When we were 8 points up I felt that was about right. Boy was I wrong! Gutting to be in 2A. Dark day for our beloved hurling. We need to find a way to get the best players in the county playing for the county!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on April 11, 2015, 07:22:22 PM
Whoever is manager next year needs to go in to each club and have a meeting with each senior panel and get the best players involved. Tell them the plans and rules for season ahead, if they don't commit when they hear the plans etc well he tried.

I agree 1 night with county and 1 night with club for training and get the leagues back to being competitive.

Let's try and get a positive out to f the shambles of this league campaign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
Agreed. Will KR go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 07:50:50 PM
"Ive made it known that I was available and wanting to play for my county this past 3 yrs, others have past on stories of me not wantin to commit and to be honest I never put the stories straight because I wished them the best. However, the decisions that have been made ,reflect the result. Ryan and county have a lot to answer for" Liam Watson latest Facebook post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 11, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
Would love to know all these hidden gems we have that would make a massive difference to our fortunes. By and large the best players are playing for Antrim. Some of us have a very inflated sense of our standing in the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 08:01:34 PM
There's nothing inflated about it.   Outside the top 8 teams in ireland.  I believe strictly because of the club hurling and the talent that's in Antrim, we should be in the next group of 8.  But sure, antrim hurling shouldn't be where it is. But deserves to be where it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 11, 2015, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 11, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
Would love to know all these hidden gems we have that would make a massive difference to our fortunes. By and large the best players are playing for Antrim. Some of us have a very inflated sense of our standing in the game.

A bit of sense on the subject at last
You would think we are sending out b teams
Most of the best young players from the last five years are on the panel
A bigger embarrassment than today's result is some peoples deluded views on how to fix things
Some of our best club forwards have been on view during the leauge and didn't cut it
Our best players that are dedicated are there
Imm excluding the players who are good enough but want involvement on there terms

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 11, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 07:50:50 PM
"Ive made it known that I was available and wanting to play for my county this past 3 yrs, others have past on stories of me not wantin to commit and to be honest I never put the stories straight because I wished them the best. However, the decisions that have been made ,reflect the result. Ryan and county have a lot to answer for" Liam Watson latest Facebook post.
Typically modest view from The Messiah Liam  ???.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
It's not about Liam.  There's others.  But how can a county like antrim afford not to put out there best players?  By the way. He's been there and done it on the biggest stage of all. People may not like him as a person,people who don't no him. your looking like one of those people now, but you cant argue with him as a hurler.  I've said in the past. All I want is the best 15 on the field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 11, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Picking/not picking players on their personality alone? Yeah, that always works.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 12, 2015, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
Agreed. Will KR go?
Clearly Ryan has to go.  His 3 Yr plan (whatever that plan was) obviously has not worked.  If he was a CEO of a company, he'd be shown the door!  Has he the fortitude to admit he has failed and failed miserably???  A Highly embarrassing situation. Personally if it was me I would put my hands up, bow out gracefully and acknowledge I failed and take my leave.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 12, 2015, 05:19:52 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 11, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
It's not about Liam.  There's others.  But how can a county like antrim afford not to put out there best players?  By the way. He's been there and done it on the biggest stage of all. People may not like him as a person,people who don't no him. your looking like one of those people now, but you cant argue with him as a hurler.  I've said in the past. All I want is the best 15 on the field

Liam and Eddie. Cormac Donnelly maybe though injuries have not been kind to him.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 12, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
When thing aren't going well in a club/county my default respiration is to consider how things could been done better if more people decided to commit more of their time coaching/supporting/contributing financially/staying positive etc. Sadly a large number of Antrim men like to remain bystanders with big opinions on how other people who get involved fcuked up or who weren't good enough to be involved. A shower of sniping hoors the lot of them. Imagine everyone of youse put the shoulder to the wheel how much better your clubs/counties fortune would be? Ah but no. Let's drive the daggers in to those that are trying to push their clubs/county forward but are struggling. Its the Antrim way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
Christy mcnaughton on Facebook:

"Don't know much about the situation but I'm just curious as to why Lguile arguably best team in county only have two players on it?"

We'd all love to know Christy.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 12:50:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 12, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
When thing aren't going well in a club/county my default respiration is to consider how things could been done better if more people decided to commit more of their time coaching/supporting/contributing financially/staying positive etc. Sadly a large number of Antrim men like to remain bystanders with big opinions on how other people who get involved fcuked up or who weren't good enough to be involved. A shower of sniping hoors the lot of them. Imagine everyone of youse put the shoulder to the wheel how much better your clubs/counties fortune would be? Ah but no. Let's drive the daggers in to those that are trying to push their clubs/county forward but are struggling. Its the Antrim way
sometimes when people are willing to make a contribution they're ignored. Our club has been doing its fair share of bringing on young talent with the help of a myriad of coaches. I'm sure it's the same within most other clubs. Sneering from on high helps no one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 12, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Chrissy should read this forum , he'll get all the answers he needs on here  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 12, 2015, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 12, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
When thing aren't going well in a club/county my default respiration is to consider how things could been done better if more people decided to commit more of their time coaching/supporting/contributing financially/staying positive etc. Sadly a large number of Antrim men like to remain bystanders with big opinions on how other people who get involved fcuked up or who weren't good enough to be involved. A shower of sniping hoors the lot of them. Imagine everyone of youse put the shoulder to the wheel how much better your clubs/counties fortune would be? Ah but no. Let's drive the daggers in to those that are trying to push their clubs/county forward but are struggling. Its the Antrim way
what do you???  I do plenty for my club I assure you, as for county,my belief is you need to be in a certain click to have anything to do with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 12, 2015, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: manballandall on April 12, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Chrissy should read this forum , he'll get all the answers he needs on here  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/gaelic-games/32276396

It appears Kevin happy enough to talk to any of us that wants to talk to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
Christy mcnaughton on Facebook:

"Don't know much about the situation but I'm just curious as to why Lguile arguably best team in county only have two players on it?"

We'd all love to know Christy.  :-X

Change the record your starting get on my wick at this stage
Tell me what players from LG should be playing and why
Let's call a spade a spade here you don't like KR because he doesnt t treat your  club any different to any other
Spare me all the mc manus tripe to
L watson has fallen out and left or told to f..k off by every county manager he played under
Eddie got his shot and didn't Set the world alight ( great club player though)
what others LG players should be there
IF LG had 10 players starting yesterday and we stayed up I would be delighted
If we have more dall players starting your disgusted regardless of results
You are devaluing your status on here with going over the same old rap for 3 years plus
Stop repeating and tell us your Player selection and system, management and county board executives that's going to improve us
Something tells me you havnt got a clue
The last time we started with 8 LG players was v Limerick just after they had won there club Ireland when Jim Nelson ( RIP) stepped in and we got absolutely tanked
Sue ask christy what he thinks if your taking his social media views as gospel
What a absolute joke you are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
You really are an angry little man nah.  ::). Relax lad, it isn't the end of the world but it is my County too. I'll post what I like within the rules of the board. If you don't like them don't read them.

I've already put my team selection up a few pages back.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 12, 2015, 02:53:59 PM
"There's definitely a realisation that some of the lads probably haven't got what we thought they have." - KR

We've openly known on this forum for some time that many of the players in that squad are nowhere  near good enough, particularly the attacking players. There is so much drivel spewed on here about who is not in the squad (especially from certain individuals). KR should go now and ask Winker Watson , Eddie McCloskey , Shea Casey , Ni gel Elliott, Saul McCaughan, Karl Stewart, Nicky Mckeague (i'm sure there are others) onto the panel. Obey the rules and toe the line. If we'd all our best players playing we wouldn't be in this predicament. Can't blame the manager. He has a terrible squad of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
How many counties though have all their best players playing for them? If you read other threads most non "top table" counties have x, y and z missing.

We are only about 2 or 3 away from our best team. Most other counties of similar standard are too. It gives a lot of people excuses to make and axes to grind etc but I don't think that is why we are where we are. At the minute the standard just isn't good enough for the division.

It does sometimes read on this thread that certain people take pleasure from seeing this kind of thing happen >:(

Sniping aside this result is a disaster. We have a lot of young guys playing who would benefit greatly from division one hurling and this will seriously curb their development :-\

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 12, 2015, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
How many counties though have all their best players playing for them? If you read other threads most non "top table" counties have x, y and z missing.

We are only about 2 or 3 away from our best team. Most other counties of similar standard are too. It gives a lot of people excuses to make and axes to grind etc but I don't think that is why we are where we are. At the minute the standard just isn't good enough for the division.



It does sometimes read on this thread that certain people take pleasure from seeing this kind of thing happen >:(

Sniping aside this result is a disaster. We have a lot of young guys playing who would benefit greatly from division one hurling and this will seriously curb their development :-\

I agree.

Shortly and Clarkie have given it a lash in attack. The rest not up to that level of hurling. Indisputable, the proof is in the pudding. If ifs and buts were bolts and nuts......if we had any of those 4 alongside Shorty and Clarkie we would still be in 1b.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
You really are an angry little man nah.  ::). Relax lad, it isn't the end of the world but it is my County too. I'll post what I like within the rules of the board. If you don't like them don't read them.

I've already put my team selection up a few pages back.  :-\

Just read your team selection
Yeah that would make a difference only one of them i woukd rather be in 2 b than placate him
The rest wouldn't make a lot of difference
As for angry and little not that little and just angry with repetitive dribble
Change the record your just repeating yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
So are you nah. We have different opinions. That should be fair enough, but you seem to get angry about it. I'm just bemused by it. I think a lot more can be done about the current situation, and before you or anyone else says anything, I'm not in a position to do anything about it. I don't live in loughgiel, I haven't done so for quite some time but I try to get to matches as often as I can.

I know some of the players on the loughgiel team,  I also know some of the players from other clubs on the County panel. So whatever I Post on here is what I've been told in the full knowledge that they know who I am on here.

As for changing the record, perhaps if things change in the upper echelons of Antrim hurling or we actually start playing hurling like I know we can, I will.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
So are you nah. We have different opinions. That should be fair enough, but you seem to get angry about it. I'm just bemused by it. I think a lot more can be done about the current situation, and before you or anyone else says anything, I'm not in a position to do anything about it. I don't live in loughgiel, I haven't done so for quite some time but I try to get to matches as often as I can.

I know some of the players on the loughgiel team,  I also know some of the players from other clubs on the County panel. So whatever I Post on here is what I've been told in the full knowledge that they know who I am on here.

As for changing the record, perhaps if things change in the upper echelons of Antrim hurling or we actually start playing hurling like I know we can, I will.  ;)

Well someone just posted a link which you failed to comment on
KR has invited anybody to an audience looking for ways to improve
Since you are one of the fourum members that is the most disgruntled with his management regime and you think there are better players and systems of management then you and the like seem to be the people he is looking to consult with
So instead of always repeating yourself on here where your musings has no effective returns give the guy a call and meet with him
He's seems very genuine about listening to anybody with alternative views
Or alternatively stay on here posting in parrot mode at the annoyance of everybody else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
So are you nah. We have different opinions. That should be fair enough, but you seem to get angry about it. I'm just bemused by it. I think a lot more can be done about the current situation, and before you or anyone else says anything, I'm not in a position to do anything about it. I don't live in loughgiel, I haven't done so for quite some time but I try to get to matches as often as I can.

I know some of the players on the loughgiel team,  I also know some of the players from other clubs on the County panel. So whatever I Post on here is what I've been told in the full knowledge that they know who I am on here.

As for changing the record, perhaps if things change in the upper echelons of Antrim hurling or we actually start playing hurling like I know we can, I will.  ;)

Well someone just posted a link which you failed to comment on
KR has invited anybody to an audience looking for ways to improve
Since you are one of the fourum members that is the most disgruntled with his management regime and you think there are better players and systems of management then you and the like seem to be the people he is looking to consult with
So instead of always repeating yourself on here where your musings has no effective returns give the guy a call and meet with him
He's seems very genuine about listening to anybody with alternative views
Or alternatively stay on here posting in parrot mode at the annoyance of everybody else
are you speaking on behalf of everyone else now? I didn't see the link. I'm trying to find a stream for the nbc masters coverage as it goes. Extremely frustrating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 04:24:07 PM
Cloot posted it on here just today
No one is blinder than he hwo will not see
Here it is again
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/32276396

I'll get his number and PM it to you as he's wanting to meet with anybody better informed than him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 04:24:07 PM
Cloot posted it on here just today
No one is blinder than he hwo will not see
Here it is again
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/32276396

I'll get his number and PM it to you as he's wanting to meet with anybody better informed than him

That's no use for sie nah. He's only looking constructive criticism.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2015, 04:24:07 PM
Cloot posted it on here just today
No one is blinder than he hwo will not see
Here it is again
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/32276396

I'll get his number and PM it to you as he's wanting to meet with anybody better informed than him

That's no use for sie nah. He's only looking constructive criticism.
that's been tried already Tommy. He wasn't open to suggestions then.

Don't need his number nah, I already have it. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 12, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 12, 2015, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 12, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
How many counties though have all their best players playing for them? If you read other threads most non "top table" counties have x, y and z missing.

We are only about 2 or 3 away from our best team. Most other counties of similar standard are too. It gives a lot of people excuses to make and axes to grind etc but I don't think that is why we are where we are. At the minute the standard just isn't good enough for the division.



It does sometimes read on this thread that certain people take pleasure from seeing this kind of thing happen >:(

Sniping aside this result is a disaster. We have a lot of young guys playing who would benefit greatly from division one hurling and this will seriously curb their development :-\

I agree.

Shortly and Clarkie have given it a lash in attack. The rest not up to that level of hurling. Indisputable, the proof is in the pudding. If ifs and buts were bolts and nuts......if we had any of those 4 alongside Shorty and Clarkie we would still be in 1b.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Cloughmills 1-13 sarsfields 1-11. Great win for the biddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 07:07:19 PM
Loughgiel 4-18 st galls 0-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 12, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Ballycastle 4-13 1-6 Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 07:07:19 PM
Loughgiel 4-18 st galls 0-12

We let in 3 silly goals, first Hal surprisingly competitive, Karl went off after 15 minutes hamstring, but by feck he scored a serious score before he did... We are doomed😞
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 07:07:19 PM
Loughgiel 4-18 st galls 0-12

We let in 3 silly goals, first Hal surprisingly competitive, Karl went off after 15 minutes hamstring, but by feck he scored a serious score before he did... We are doomed😞
What age is Karl now mr2? He's always been a quality hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 12, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
He must be about 33?? Looking out of your depth in division 1. Ahoghill also. Can see them joining Ballygalget glenariffe creggan cloughmills sarsfields and gort na mona next year. Gorts and glenariffe off to a good start. Sarsfields off to a stinker but cloughmills are a handy side too. New leagues next year should have most teams on a level playing field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 12, 2015, 09:34:13 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 12, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
He must be about 33?? Looking out of your depth in division 1. Ahoghill also. Can see them joining Ballygalget glenariffe creggan cloughmills sarsfields and gort na mona next year. Gorts and glenariffe off to a good start. Sarsfields off to a stinker but cloughmills are a handy side too. New leagues next year should have most teams on a level playing field

Gorts beat by Creggan today.

Was there a fall out between Stewart and Ryan or did he just quit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 12, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
He must be about 33?? Looking out of your depth in division 1. Ahoghill also. Can see them joining Ballygalget glenariffe creggan cloughmills sarsfields and gort na mona next year. Gorts and glenariffe off to a good start. Sarsfields off to a stinker but cloughmills are a handy side too. New leagues next year should have most teams on a level playing field
only 33? Did he retire from the County Team or move away?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 12, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 12, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 12, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
He must be about 33?? Looking out of your depth in division 1. Ahoghill also. Can see them joining Ballygalget glenariffe creggan cloughmills sarsfields and gort na mona next year. Gorts and glenariffe off to a good start. Sarsfields off to a stinker but cloughmills are a handy side too. New leagues next year should have most teams on a level playing field
only 33? Did he retire from the County Team or move away?

33 was a guess. Could well be older. Probably is. Fine hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 12, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
He's about 32.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 12, 2015, 11:32:11 PM
31?  He's put in a serious shift for club and county, on senior team since he was 18, injuries catching up on him.... A proper hurling man.. Owes nothing, I'm sure he was asked but work young family and committing to county is tough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 13, 2015, 08:33:01 AM
to sum it all up, we are where we deserve to be. Offaly should of been relegated last year and we should of been as well without this play off. The play off was only there to ensure that one of the big teams didnt go down straight away.

We have no county ground, no development ground and a serious amount of depression about our county set up now. The football is in the basement and so is the hurling. Its a fair reflection of our county set up at the moment.

Ive lost all interest in the county set up due to all this crap and the rumor mongers about who does this etc. Its like a primary school play ground version of Chinese whispers!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 10:50:30 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 13, 2015, 08:33:01 AM
to sum it all up, we are where we deserve to be. Offaly should of been relegated last year and we should of been as well without this play off. The play off was only there to ensure that one of the big teams didnt go down straight away.

We have no county ground, no development ground and a serious amount of depression about our county set up now. The football is in the basement and so is the hurling. Its a fair reflection of our county set up at the moment.

Ive lost all interest in the county set up due to all this crap and the rumor mongers about who does this etc. Its like a primary school play ground version of Chinese whispers!

True DR - It really is low ebb in every aspect of what a county should be doing.

In response to the earlier idea that complaining is no good - don't assume posters on here are not working within their clubs - and also this is just an internet forum nothing more. People who complain are entitled to do so and it's lazy & ignoring the issue to respond by asking what they are doing about it!

I went to the Johnnies Clooney game and was happy enough to see the Corrigan men win. Clooney nabbed a few goals but St Johns were the better side over 15 players just that bit sharper and more workmanlike than a more laborious Clooney who carry a few too many for division 1.
McFall was not playing so I assume he has retired.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 13, 2015, 11:07:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 13, 2015, 08:33:01 AM
to sum it all up, we are where we deserve to be. Offaly should of been relegated last year and we should of been as well without this play off. The play off was only there to ensure that one of the big teams didnt go down straight away.

We have no county ground, no development ground and a serious amount of depression about our county set up now. The football is in the basement and so is the hurling. Its a fair reflection of our county set up at the moment.

Ive lost all interest in the county set up due to all this crap and the rumor mongers about who does this etc. Its like a primary school play ground version of Chinese whispers!
Comhthoilím le do anailís DR.  Maith Thú.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on April 13, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 12, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Ballycastle 4-13 1-6 Rossa.

Was unable to get to the match yesterday. What was the performance like yesterday Bonamargy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 13, 2015, 02:10:20 PM
didnt get to our match either in portaferry as i was away all weekend. No idea what sort of team we had out for the game. I heard there that Kevin Molloy is now out for a while with injury. Our list of injured players keeps getting longer!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 13, 2015, 02:42:24 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on April 13, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 12, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Ballycastle 4-13 1-6 Rossa.

Was unable to get to the match yesterday. What was the performance like yesterday Bonamargy?

Was easy enough to be honest. Rossa were very flat and hadn't much intensity about them. I was surprised by their performance. A good confidence boost for our boys all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 13, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
The post mortem, according to KR.

Long balls, short balls, wide balls, big balls, small balls, low ball, high balls, dirty balls, fast balls, slow balls, straight balls, curved balls!

Conclusion by KR, and here's the real curve ball -  "Antrim players (well some anyway) have no balls to win dirty balls" and it took him 3 years to realise that, amazing. A sorry state of affairs.  As I said, Kerry were never to be underestimated. It's sure to be along road back, we could potentially meet Kerry or Laois again this time next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 13, 2015, 05:58:35 PM
What is amazing is the amount of knowledgeable know it all's.

The man has put a serious amount of effort into trying to get Antrim up a rung and it hasn't worked out. Are you of the opinion that a n other would have done any better?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 13, 2015, 05:58:35 PM
What is amazing is the amount of knowledgeable know it all's.

The man has put a serious amount of effort into trying to get Antrim up a rung and it hasn't worked out. Are you of the opinion that a n other would have done any better?

Some posters on here are embarrassing
Accusations of putting out a B team nearly
He seems to have put his heart and soul into it and regardless of the returns is willing to kick on
I hope the players decide to continue with him when they meet tomorrow night to discuss it
There the ones training since Christmas
At least there are a lot of players in fine fettle for there clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 13, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 13, 2015, 05:58:35 PM
What is amazing is the amount of knowledgeable know it all's.

The man has put a serious amount of effort into trying to get Antrim up a rung and it hasn't worked out. Are you of the opinion that a n other would have done any better?

Some posters on here are embarrassing
Accusations of putting out a B team nearly
He seems to have put his heart and soul into it and regardless of the returns is willing to kick on
I hope the players decide to continue with him when they meet tomorrow night to discuss it
There the ones training since Christmas
At least there are a lot of players in fine fettle for there clubs

statement has been released and players in full support for manager n taking full responsability. What the fcuk. Talk about the tail wagging the dog. So KR had to sit n wait for that bunch of players to decide weather to blame him or not?? Who is in charge of directing the progress of Antrim hurling?? County board.. a committee.. the management team... a few players..??? I really dont know what to make of this. And as for the few on here who begrudge people who speak out and voice an opinion, dont read or post on a public forum if you dont accept any opinion but your own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 13, 2015, 11:04:40 PM
e players of the Antrim senior hurling team have made a statement tonight regarding their current standing.

 'We the Antrim senior hurling panel fully support our manager Kevin Ryan. We take full responsibility for our recent performances. Our relegation has hurt no one more than this group of players. We will strive to improve and move forward as proud Antrim hurlers towards championship.'County Antrim Chairman, Jim Murray, endorsed a decision made by Coiste Bainisti tonight that they fully support the hurling management team and look forward to the Leinster Championship campaign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 13, 2015, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 13, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
statement has been released and players in full support for manager n taking full responsability. What the fcuk. Talk about the tail wagging the dog. So KR had to sit n wait for that bunch of players to decide weather to blame him or not?? Who is in charge of directing the progress of Antrim hurling?? County board.. a committee.. the management team... a few players..??? I really dont know what to make of this. And as for the few on here who begrudge people who speak out and voice an opinion, dont read or post on a public forum if you dont accept any opinion but your own.

So you KNOW that the tail wags the dog? You KNOW this or are you reading between the lines and thinking that the tail wags the dog? I think you know its the latter

A manager needs the buy in from the players in the bad times if he wishes to stay at the helm. If his methods arent supported by the players and they (the players) believe those methods are to blame for poor performances then I'm sure all involved would want to know that and a parting of the ways could occur for the good of the county. If a manager respects his players enough, he'll be mature enough to respect their opinions regarding such things. Seems totally reasonable to my mind (not to the drama queens though). Its another WTF moment from the know it alls. Lets keep a blinkered focus on KR as we look to lay no blame at our own doorsteps for Antrims woes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 13, 2015, 11:25:45 PM
 There is a clear unity there regardless of how poor they've been. It's perfectly plausible for the players to get behind their under fire manager. Good for them!!! They are accepting responsibility for how poor they have played. Out of adversity can come something really positive. KR indicated he would walk away if he didn't have their support. Are you 2 in a better position to pass judgement on KR as a manager than the guys who have worked  closely with him the past few years? ....And cue the moaners, knockers, begrudgers and keyboard experts!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.

i could be wrong but i think the manager stated after the match that he wanted to know if the players where still behind him. I get the feeling he wasn't sure.  He said if they weren't then he would walk. was there a press interview or just a statement released. who is the team captain if it is Mc Manus that's normal for him to speak on behalf of the players.

Do you want the players and management to disappear down some black hole or see where things are so they can fulfill the fixtures they are obliged to play

I don't know Mc manus and I never met Kevin Ryan but they must be very bad for the county the way there talked about on here

maybe the players and management read these pages- that would build a siege mentality and united front on any group

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 13, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.

i could be wrong but i think the manager stated after the match that he wanted to know if the players where still behind him. I get the feeling he wasn't sure.  He said if they weren't then he would walk. was there a press interview or just a statement released. who is the team captain if it is Mc Manus that's normal for him to speak on behalf of the players.

Do you want the players and management to disappear down some black hole or see where things are so they can fulfill the fixtures they are obliged to play

I don't know Mc manus and I never met Kevin Ryan but they must be very bad for the county the way there talked about on here

maybe the players and management read these pages- that would build a siege mentality and united front on any group

Well said NAH. No coincidence that most of the morons on here are the same morons who are constantly whining and repeating the same bullshit. btgtt, I'm surprised at as he is usually more subjective with balanced, reasonable points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 13, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.

i could be wrong but i think the manager stated after the match that he wanted to know if the players where still behind him. I get the feeling he wasn't sure.  He said if they weren't then he would walk. was there a press interview or just a statement released. who is the team captain if it is Mc Manus that's normal for him to speak on behalf of the players.

Do you want the players and management to disappear down some black hole or see where things are so they can fulfill the fixtures they are obliged to play

I don't know Mc manus and I never met Kevin Ryan but they must be very bad for the county the way there talked about on here

maybe the players and management read these pages- that would build a siege mentality and united front on any group

Well said NAH. No coincidence that most of the morons on here are the same morons who are constantly whining and repeating the same bullshit. btgtt, I'm surprised at as he is usually more subjective with balanced, reasonable points.

very disappointing to be playing in div 2 and the results of late but more disappointing is some of the negative dribble on here with no substance to it or no meaningful  alternative
the saying ,,If your not part of the solution then your part off the problem,, resonates strongly this last few days
Hope the manager and players get something out of this summer for sticking together when everything is trying to pull them apart
Saffrons Abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 14, 2015, 12:23:18 AM
So let me get this straight. If you agree that no one is to blame and hope for a good summer each year, you are allowed an opinion.

But if you disagree and believe in things like the irony of players who have under performed giving the manager a vote of confidence, is dribble..and I'm a moron and that I'm part of the problem as I have not put forward a solution.

If that's the way people want to go about it you shouldn't be on an anonymous forum. Or better still for some of you guys on your key boards calling people keyboard warriors. Let it be known who you are and what your role has been, is and will be in the future to solve this issue that is Antrim Hurling. I would not read this or go on the county web site if I didn't care about antrim hurling. But I do care and am still allowed my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 12:44:11 AM
Saying that we are where we are because of an inability to develop players with the required skills and commitment (for countless years on end) is not saying no one is to blame you fool

Its saying we are where we are not because of KR but because the coaching population isnt big enough, knowledgeable enough and isn't supported well enough to develop and deliver players with the right attributes to compete properly. Why is it any surprise that players arrive at senior IC level in this county struggling to compete with Div1 hurling? Could someone explain that to me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 12:56:55 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on April 14, 2015, 12:23:18 AM
So let me get this straight. If you agree that no one is to blame and hope for a good summer each year, you are allowed an opinion.

But if you disagree and believe in things like the irony of players who have under performed giving the manager a vote of confidence, is dribble..and I'm a moron and that I'm part of the problem as I have not put forward a solution.

If that's the way people want to go about it you shouldn't be on an anonymous forum. Or better still for some of you guys on your key boards calling people keyboard warriors. Let it be known who you are and what your role has been, is and will be in the future to solve this issue that is Antrim Hurling. I would not read this or go on the county web site if I didn't care about antrim hurling. But I do care and am still allowed my opinion.

of course you are entitled to you opinion, but your tail wagging the dog statement is laughable as Ryan asked the players to meet and decide if they wanted him to continue. if those players under performed they are still antrim county panelist and that's why they where asked.
i never once called you a moron or a keyboard warrior ( stupid characterization anyway ) but I think what you said is dribble
sorry but you typed it and i mm  entitled to my opinion on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 14, 2015, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 12:44:11 AM
Saying that we are where we are because of an inability to develop players with the required skills and commitment (for countless years on end) is not saying no one is to blame you fool

Its saying we are where we are not because of KR but because the coaching population isnt big enough, knowledgeable enough and isn't supported well enough to develop and deliver players with the right attributes to compete properly. Why is it any surprise that players arrive at senior IC level in this county struggling to compete with Div1 hurling? Could someone explain that to me?

Again you assume to know me, I'm a fool and you are the shining light. Look I have no axe to grind with any players and esp not the manager. It's a massive committment and no one would give up their time and bucket loads of energy to put in a bad shift. I do have a gripe though with our county board and some of the previous ones.

When we do up strategic development plans every 4/5years all the focus goes on facilities and the likes but it's all a side show. I agree that these things are lovely but won't bring you success just because they are built. What is the last concerted strategic effort you have seen from the ground up to change anything that needs changed. Ie massive development of coaches for the development squads. And I do mean development of coaches. Instead of paying expenses to a couple of senior coaches for 3 years why not bring up 4/5 of the best development coaches for 6 or 7 weeks fri/sat/sun sessions with our development squad coaches and a coach that has been put forward by each club to the bring back all the info and processes back into the club.

I agree with you we need to put time n effort into developing our own coaches. 1person coaching 40 seniors the best ways to do things and the best attitude to have vs 30 coaches coaching 1000 children all the same things but from an early age. I know which one will last longer and which one is a quick fix or not as the case may sometimes be. Our county pays lip service to the development squad structure and most on county board couldn't give a flying fcuk how the develop it's no use to them if they are successful in 9 years time as they will no longer be on the county board but a chance to be the one who built Dunsilly or Casement and the photo opps /job opps and hob nobbing. All the quick gains for personal gains.   I am no moron and am no fool and don't appreciate the name calling but I do think we need a strategy for proper coach development with proper measurable outcomes and aims n objectives not another strategy for how many 3G pitches we can get built
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 08:00:13 AM
Gizzy

Help me understand the link between the initial post I replied to last night regarding the players statement and your last post?

I called you a fool for the assertions you made regarding the player statement and KR letting the tail wag the dog and then assuming (strangely) by that I was implying that the blame lies with no one in this sorry mess. You're still happy with you earlier contributions I'm assuming and reckon they stand up to scrutiny? I'm trying to understand why you've moved the goalposts in your last post?

I've no issue with your last post btw and would 110% agree with your opinions around proper coaching and player development other than to bring you down to reality and say currently we dont have the numbers of interested adults (coaches/parents/financial support etc) to carry out what needs to be done to get standards up. That is the sorry reality
The ones who are interested can only achieve so much and should hardly be blamed for trying to do their best but ultimately not doing enough. I takes more people to give a flying f before change will come about.

Yours and others focus on KR and the county team ignores these realities.






Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 14, 2015, 09:08:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 08:00:13 AM
Gizzy

Help me understand the link between the initial post I replied to last night regarding the players statement and your last post?

I called you a fool for the assertions you made regarding the player statement and KR letting the tail wag the dog and then assuming (strangely) by that I was implying that the blame lies with no one in this sorry mess. You're still happy with you earlier contributions I'm assuming and reckon they stand up to scrutiny? I'm trying to understand why you've moved the goalposts in your last post?

I've no issue with your last post btw and would 110% agree with your opinions around proper coaching and player development other than to bring you down to reality and say currently we dont have the numbers of interested adults (coaches/parents/financial support etc) to carry out what needs to be done to get standards up. That is the sorry reality
The ones who are interested can only achieve so much and should hardly be blamed for trying to do their best but ultimately not doing enough. I takes more people to give a flying f before change will come about.

Yours and others focus on KR and the county team ignores these realities.

not all the responses were to you. one said that if you were not part of the solution you are part of the problem so I was putting forward potential solutions. I do stand by my first post. what I meant by it was that for quite a few guys its too comfortable a role its known that a core group have influence on who will be asked to be manager then have some influence over the manager and when performances are not up to scratch ultimately decide the future of the manager (although you were right that the manager asked if he had backing in this case). I just think it (the scrutiny) should go both ways and all players (great or not so great) should be looking over their shoulder when it goes so bad. some of the best managers are not loved as to get the best from a group players sometimes have to be pushed outside their comfort zone and go above and beyond the normal lines of duty. its usually in hindsight a good manager is realised or when he wins something unexpected. I have no issues with the manager and think he has put an awful lot of time and effort into the current group of players I just think in my opinion the set up we have in this county its just a bit too comfortable for some. its only an opinion and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 14, 2015, 09:09:19 AM
there's a serious amount of people obsessed with NMcM on this forum. Its a tad disturbing and sad.

This forum should be renamed the national enquirer where people can come on and post more and more crazy reasons and scenarios as to whos to blame antrim are where they are.

Simple truth is that we arent good enough. Its not any single persons fault or some crazy one single club running the county conspiracy crap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 13, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.

i could be wrong but i think the manager stated after the match that he wanted to know if the players where still behind him. I get the feeling he wasn't sure.  He said if they weren't then he would walk. was there a press interview or just a statement released. who is the team captain if it is Mc Manus that's normal for him to speak on behalf of the players.

Do you want the players and management to disappear down some black hole or see where things are so they can fulfill the fixtures they are obliged to play

I don't know Mc manus and I never met Kevin Ryan but they must be very bad for the county the way there talked about on here

maybe the players and management read these pages- that would build a siege mentality and united front on any group

Well said NAH. No coincidence that most of the morons on here are the same morons who are constantly whining and repeating the same bullshit. btgtt, I'm surprised at as he is usually more subjective with balanced, reasonable points.

I've already said that making KR a scapegoat here is nonsense - and we didn't need a players statement to know they are part of the problem.
We're not good enough for the top table - I have no problem with that - but we should be better than Kerry.

My point is straight-forward.
As an Antrim hurling supporter I would occaisionally like to read an article from someone other than Neil McManus. How much ahve we heard from any other player in the last number of years? From what I've seen Paul Shiels is a serious quality hurler, purely as a supporter, I would like to know more from him and others. That's something easily fixed from within the Antrim camp.

For a hurling perspective, I don't think it's healthy that the panel can be seen by some as a one-man band. The fact is that all aroung the county we are all aware of how McManus is a dominant figure int his squad - and in Antrim hurling in general. I'm sorry but that's just not healthy. Can we compare any other county with such prominance for one-man? If it's media interviews, photo-shoots or double-jobbing between playing and Under21 selector?
I've never met him, I'm sure he's a grand fella, but he's way to much to the fore of all thing Antirm hurling for that not be the case in the set-up itself. This is not healthy for the other players or the team as a whole.

As I said, I don't make Ryan or McMAnus a scapegoat - there's serveral factors. I think most posters agree - just becuase we mention management etc doesn't mean we're lumping the blame there. This is not soccer where we hire and fire mangers on results.

But I will say this.
KR has a vested interest in keeping our county job. Money. So let's not be surprised that he or any other salaried official might do what it takes to keep their job. Personally I'm not sure it's the best use of our limited financial resources. Neil McManus would obviously like KR to stay on also - he enjoys a priviledged position in the squad. Add these two things up and the result if a media statement. I would prefer our players to be hurling rather than expressing oyalty to the manager (which should be a given) and accepting a responsibilty for losing (which is obviosu).

And now my real crux of the matter?
Was it for all this that we have allowed our club scene to be decimated?
Stop this madness.
Let's accept our county's position for what it is - and build a proper club scene to produce more and better players.
We have tried it this way - it clearly has not worked.
Why perisist?
The County Exective / County Board need to lead this back to clubs running fixtures etc.

And just for clarity - again - I do not scapegoat Kevin Ryan or Neil McManus!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
You don't blame McManus...but you've just talked about him for 3 paragraphs. Cool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
You don't blame McManus...but you've just talked about him for 3 paragraphs. Cool

Very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
You don't blame McManus...but you've just talked about him for 3 paragraphs. Cool

Very good

Yeah thats right. Just because I talked about him doesn't mean I hold him single-handedly to account for our relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
You don't blame McManus...but you've just talked about him for 3 paragraphs. Cool

Very good

Yeah thats right. Just because I talked about him doesn't mean I hold him single-handedly to account for our relegation.
No one said you did
He is in the back of the irish news today
'' the teams critics has nothing else to offer''
You mentioned shorty and other players sharing press duties well that's up to journalist to call them
I can't invisage a dervert all calls to mc manus network
Maybe the press should phone you instead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 14, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
shorty does do interviews but hes a quiet lad and doesn't do standing out of the crowd. He goes to training, plays his hurling and thats it.

Some people like the lime light and others dont care for it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 14, 2015, 12:38:44 PM
A sad state of affairs and extremely embarrassing to say the least.  We are all culpable, even we (collective) keyboard warriors,if we are perfectly honest?  I don't want to be part of this sniping, back stabbing, finger pointing and constant recrimination.  I cant do with all them negative words!  All this crap is the very essence in what is wrong with our county, quick to accuse, blame, ridicule and lambast, a sad state of affairs indeed.


Now lets all go back into our little club cocoons and strive to win the Volunteer Cup, sure that's all we live for.  And then when your club does not win, come up with the regular litany of excuses as to why our clubs did not win it.  Will you blame the CB, KR and McManus for that also?  That is not a trick question by the way!


As KR alluded to recently, some of the players did not have the balls, I'm of the opinion a lot of you keyboard warriors/vitriol's suffer from them same appendage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 13, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 13, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 13, 2015, 11:06:03 PM
So the press interviews for the Antrim hurlers are given by - wait for it - drum roll - why if it ain't Neil McManus! How novel! Maybe we got relegated because we only have one player!
Now a team statement in support of Kevin Ryan - wonder who's idea this could have been?
What a shambles - players train and play and give loyalty to the jersey - making statements to the press is not part of their re-mit. Antrim all over the papers again - cheap column inches - one day maybe it will be good news.

i could be wrong but i think the manager stated after the match that he wanted to know if the players where still behind him. I get the feeling he wasn't sure.  He said if they weren't then he would walk. was there a press interview or just a statement released. who is the team captain if it is Mc Manus that's normal for him to speak on behalf of the players.

Do you want the players and management to disappear down some black hole or see where things are so they can fulfill the fixtures they are obliged to play

I don't know Mc manus and I never met Kevin Ryan but they must be very bad for the county the way there talked about on here

maybe the players and management read these pages- that would build a siege mentality and united front on any group

Well said NAH. No coincidence that most of the morons on here are the same morons who are constantly whining and repeating the same bullshit. btgtt, I'm surprised at as he is usually more subjective with balanced, reasonable points.

I've already said that making KR a scapegoat here is nonsense - and we didn't need a players statement to know they are part of the problem.
We're not good enough for the top table - I have no problem with that - but we should be better than Kerry.

My point is straight-forward.
As an Antrim hurling supporter I would occaisionally like to read an article from someone other than Neil McManus. How much ahve we heard from any other player in the last number of years? From what I've seen Paul Shiels is a serious quality hurler, purely as a supporter, I would like to know more from him and others. That's something easily fixed from within the Antrim camp.

For a hurling perspective, I don't think it's healthy that the panel can be seen by some as a one-man band. The fact is that all aroung the county we are all aware of how McManus is a dominant figure int his squad - and in Antrim hurling in general. I'm sorry but that's just not healthy. Can we compare any other county with such prominance for one-man? If it's media interviews, photo-shoots or double-jobbing between playing and Under21 selector?
I've never met him, I'm sure he's a grand fella, but he's way to much to the fore of all thing Antirm hurling for that not be the case in the set-up itself. This is not healthy for the other players or the team as a whole.

As I said, I don't make Ryan or McMAnus a scapegoat - there's serveral factors. I think most posters agree - just becuase we mention management etc doesn't mean we're lumping the blame there. This is not soccer where we hire and fire mangers on results.

But I will say this.
KR has a vested interest in keeping our county job. Money. So let's not be surprised that he or any other salaried official might do what it takes to keep their job. Personally I'm not sure it's the best use of our limited financial resources. Neil McManus would obviously like KR to stay on also - he enjoys a priviledged position in the squad. Add these two things up and the result if a media statement. I would prefer our players to be hurling rather than expressing oyalty to the manager (which should be a given) and accepting a responsibilty for losing (which is obviosu).

And now my real crux of the matter?
Was it for all this that we have allowed our club scene to be decimated?
Stop this madness.
Let's accept our county's position for what it is - and build a proper club scene to produce more and better players.
We have tried it this way - it clearly has not worked.
Why perisist?
The County Exective / County Board need to lead this back to clubs running fixtures etc.

And just for clarity - again - I do not scapegoat Kevin Ryan or Neil McManus!
one of the best posts on the matter I've ever read.  And again.  Some people on here have different opinions.  Be part of the solution and not the Prob bla bla bla.  As if anyone on here has a say in anything county antrim hurling wise.  Iv made it known that I was available and wanting to play for my county this past 3 yrs, others hav past on stories of me not wantin to commit and to b honest I never put the stories right bcuz I wished them the best. However, the decisions that hav been made reflect the result. Ryan and county have a lot to answer for. There's far far to many people that I respect saying the same things for it not to be true. Plain and simple. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 14, 2015, 12:47:36 PM
anyone read Paddy heaneys piece in the irish news today.

worth a reading if not what we already all knew already about the state of antrim gaa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 12:52:35 PM
Who wouldn't want to be the manager. £20,000 for taking lads with no real will to win, let's be honest. An ulster championship, and 1 half decent preformance against someone we view to be better than us is a successful season. When it's not good enough. Now anyone who doesn't like this post can cut it to pieces and mark me as part of the problem. Very simple, don't like it. Don't read what I post. Back to another 3 year plan where everyone is happy and we will continue to read the same shite on the back page of the Irish news about how good a panel they have and how happy they are and how it's time to beat these teams there playing. Nearly 36 months without a league win. Anyone else think that's good enough for a manager that's getting paid a fortune. Sorry to all the positive thinkers, it's not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 14, 2015, 01:20:55 PM
i agree with you SG, its not good enough for what were expecting in return. Is it soley KR fault no, is it soley the players no. Its more a combination of all of that and other factors it seems.

i said at the time that our county board shot down O'Rourkes proposals for the antrim football job due to a lack of being able to finance it we were in big bother.

I dont blame our board for losing games on a pitch i blame them for the shape our game is in at the moment within the county. Its a total and utter shambless. we have no where to play county matches, a centre of excellence that i pass every single day on the train to work and its the closest i will probably ever get to setting foot in it like many other gaels in our county!

yet they bumble along. FFS they couldnt even seed a football draw correctly without making a c**k up of it!

and before i get the 'why dont you do something about it' posts i do enough for my own club, 6 nights this week infact involved in 3 different teams along with working in Belfast each and every day.

Ive followed Antrim up and down Ireland for games since a kid but this is as low as ive ever seen it. I dont see any quick fix sitting about to sort this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Well at least we've agreed on something for once. I don't go out of my way to rip into lads. I've said before I respect the lads that's training and slogging away since Xmas. But it's shocking frustrating.  I've done my fair share for my own club and I've hurled here and there for the county over the years, but this is as bad as I've ever seen or heard of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
A sense of reality would do no harm.

99% of Antrim hurlers that have represented our county were only competitive at Div2 and the odd game in Div1B if another team wasn't going well. What's new at this time over and above the internet and unrealistic expectations? Not a wile lot. Its just being presented as a  disaster and its helping no one.

To create teams capable of competing at the levels we would like, takes more than a focus on KR and the current panel (or the one or two that might want to be part of it but aren't). 


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Well at least we've agreed on something for once. I don't go out of my way to rip into lads. I've said before I respect the lads that's training and slogging away since Xmas. But it's shocking frustrating.  I've done my fair share for my own club and I've hurled here and there for the county over the years, but this is as bad as I've ever seen or heard of.

If you hurled for the county and club then your entitled to your views
Some I agree with others not
Did you have to disclose  payment details on a public forum
That's a can of worms for private debate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
You don't blame McManus...but you've just talked about him for 3 paragraphs. Cool

Very good

Yeah thats right. Just because I talked about him doesn't mean I hold him single-handedly to account for our relegation.
No one said you did
He is in the back of the irish news today
'' the teams critics has nothing else to offer''
You mentioned shorty and other players sharing press duties well that's up to journalist to call them
I can't invisage a dervert all calls to mc manus network
Maybe the press should phone you instead

Well if you accept I didn't blame him - then I don't know the point of your original post or 2 Hands point.
Also - I mentioned that the dominance of McManus is press etc should be addressed by the Antrim "camp". I didn't say by him alone. There is a PRO and / or management might see this one man PR idea isn't healthy.

And can we quit posting about people being negative or this "what are you doing" idea.
This is an internet chat room - nothing more or less.
None of us know what other do in their own clubs or county.
Things in Antrim are at an all time low perhaps - nobody can argue that - pointing it out is just obvious. Its not negative or defelcting blame. Its real.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Well at least we've agreed on something for once. I don't go out of my way to rip into lads. I've said before I respect the lads that's training and slogging away since Xmas. But it's shocking frustrating.  I've done my fair share for my own club and I've hurled here and there for the county over the years, but this is as bad as I've ever seen or heard of.

If you hurled for the county and club then your entitled to your views
Some I agree with others not
Did you have to disclose  payment details on a public forum
That's a can of worms for private debate
its common knowledge for everyone, hardly a massive sercet, I think as a county we'd be entitled to expect and demand more for that money,   Sorry again to anyone I annoy. Just my feelings. And on the back page of the paper.  Maybe best to stay out of it, if you talk the talk, your setting yourself up for the critics when you don't walk the walk. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 14, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
Its a sad state of affairs when a crowd of grown men spend a few pages whinging about the media exposure the captain of our county hurling team gets.

I for one couldn't care less Neil or anyone else in the camp has a daily segment on RTE News. 

Show's how small time we are when these are the things we are talking about when toiling in the lower tiers of football and hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Well at least we've agreed on something for once. I don't go out of my way to rip into lads. I've said before I respect the lads that's training and slogging away since Xmas. But it's shocking frustrating.  I've done my fair share for my own club and I've hurled here and there for the county over the years, but this is as bad as I've ever seen or heard of.

If you hurled for the county and club then your entitled to your views
Some I agree with others not
Did you have to disclose  payment details on a public forum
That's a can of worms for private debate
its common knowledge for everyone, hardly a massive sercet, I think as a county we'd be entitled to expect and demand more for that money,   Sorry again to anyone I annoy. Just my feelings. And on the back page of the paper.  Maybe best to stay out of it, if you talk the talk, your setting yourself up for the critics when you don't walk the walk.

Not to me anyway

I think you should take your own advice. Just looks as if you're enjoying it and wont help when wounds need healing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 14, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
Its a sad state of affairs when a crowd of grown men spend a few pages whinging about the media exposure the captain of our county hurling team gets.

I for one couldn't care less Neil or anyone else in the camp has a daily segment on RTE News. 

Show's how small time we are when these are the things we are talking about when toiling in the lower tiers of football and hurling.

And again someone misses the point.
I would wish McManus well if he got that RTE slot - my point is that I want to hear from others also, I don't thing the one-man-band thing is constructive.
I honestly don't know why I'm having to clarify simple points.
What show's how small time we are is the state of both codes and Casment Park and Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 14, 2015, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 14, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
Its a sad state of affairs when a crowd of grown men spend a few pages whinging about the media exposure the captain of our county hurling team gets.

I for one couldn't care less Neil or anyone else in the camp has a daily segment on RTE News. 

Show's how small time we are when these are the things we are talking about when toiling in the lower tiers of football and hurling.

Totally agree, talking about it is one thing but putting fairly personal stuff into print is another. Since being around this board a few years I now tend only to get annoyed at things I can and am prepared to do something about. Thats my tuppence worth anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 03:43:04 PM
Antrim count board  surely doesn't have a PRO   If they do I he's must be the worst one ever coz I can't recall a good bit of PR coming out of the county in a long long time. As for the Kevin Ryan debate I think the fella can only do so much with what's at his disposal. However I think if we had an Antrim man in charge there would be a lot of present panel members who wouldn't be near it. Kevin Ryan doesn't get to too many club games otherwise he'd see that there's better players than the ones currently on his panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 03:43:04 PM
Kevin Ryan doesn't get to too many club games otherwise he'd see that there's better players than the ones currently on his panel.

And round we go again  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 14, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
Hello guys. If we want to improve at intercounty level, we need a league structure which facilitates high quality and regular competition combined with good coaching at EVERY club so that the fruits of their coaching labour will enter into this utopian high quality and regular league structure and raise standards.

The county board will always be sh.ite and make a balls of things.  I can't remember it ever doing anything different.  This one in particular are a cut above the rest in my opinion.  We have a Full Time secretary on £40,000 per annum who delegates everything to wee Joe and to the divisional board secretaries but will make it to the golf outings to take photographs.  Himself and our Chair have costed us THOUSANDS in court over Casement social club and have practically given our stadium to Ulster Council without getting ANYTHING back in terms of Dunsilly.  We have been DONE SILLY!!  They also allow the county manager to suspend league activity and other clubs to cancel games in lower leagues because one or two players are featuring as 9th subs.  It is utter madness!!!!

Time to get back to basics, concentrate on the fundamentals in the same way you would tell a child to if he wasn't hurling great.  Get back to our bread and butter.  Get a good league sturcture going and let the clubs get strong.  Allow them the space to do so.  Instead of investing gods amounts of OUR money (Croke Park Rugby and Soccer money grants that each county got and our fundraising to mention two examples).

Support smaller struggling clubs especially in Belfast.  But do bloody something!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 14, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 03:43:04 PM
Antrim count board  surely doesn't have a PRO   If they do I he's must be the worst one ever coz I can't recall a good bit of PR coming out of the county in a long long time. As for the Kevin Ryan debate I think the fella can only do so much with what's at his disposal. However I think if we had an Antrim man in charge there would be a lot of present panel members who wouldn't be near it. Kevin Ryan doesn't get to too many club games otherwise he'd see that there's better players than the ones currently on his panel.

Who do you recommend that isn't on the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Well at least we've agreed on something for once. I don't go out of my way to rip into lads. I've said before I respect the lads that's training and slogging away since Xmas. But it's shocking frustrating.  I've done my fair share for my own club and I've hurled here and there for the county over the years, but this is as bad as I've ever seen or heard of.

If you hurled for the county and club then your entitled to your views
Some I agree with others not
Did you have to disclose  payment details on a public forum
That's a can of worms for private debate
its common knowledge for everyone, hardly a massive sercet, I think as a county we'd be entitled to expect and demand more for that money,   Sorry again to anyone I annoy. Just my feelings. And on the back page of the paper.  Maybe best to stay out of it, if you talk the talk, your setting yourself up for the critics when you don't walk the walk.

Not to me anyway

I think you should take your own advice. Just looks as if you're enjoying it and wont help when wounds need healing
again il say. If you don't like what I post. Ignore it. Plenty of yes men seems to be your way forward. Happy camp and all that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
But I'm not KR who has to consider the dilemma of bringing back people into the fold who make a point of giving their opinions in a very public way just a little bit too freely. Only adds to the difficulties IMO. But of course it would be KR's fault if he felt inviting some people back might be detrimental due to these public outbursts.

Feel free to ignore every word I said

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 04:57:52 PM
Id think whoever goes of the panel. There won't be many join it. To little to late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 14, 2015, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
But I'm not KR who has to consider the dilemma of bringing back people into the fold who make a point of giving their opinions in a very public way just a little bit too freely. Only adds to the difficulties IMO. But of course it would be KR's fault if he felt inviting some people back might be detrimental due to these public outbursts.

Feel free to ignore every word I said
Thankfully KR is a fairly measured fella, imagine if Davy Fitz was reading this stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 14, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 03:43:04 PM
Antrim count board  surely doesn't have a PRO   If they do I he's must be the worst one ever coz I can't recall a good bit of PR coming out of the county in a long long time. As for the Kevin Ryan debate I think the fella can only do so much with what's at his disposal. However I think if we had an Antrim man in charge there would be a lot of present panel members who wouldn't be near it. Kevin Ryan doesn't get to too many club games otherwise he'd see that there's better players than the ones currently on his panel.

Who do you recommend that isn't on the panel?

Well I think we're going over old ground with some of the names being mentioned almost daily on here. I would like to see a full forward. Centre half forward and a full back of some form on the panel. Too many square pegs in round holes in important positions for my liking. There's also some shocking paranoia on this board that every post is against certain people! These are just some peoples opinions on what they think should be done. Doesn't make them right or wrong!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on April 14, 2015, 06:44:38 PM
Dunsilly and Casement are a complete joke. We are a laughing stock in both codes. The county board has failed us but how do we as a county get them out and change it with progressive thinkers who are willing to put in the effort. This is the conundrum we can say what we want about Jim Murray and co who I believe hasn't made one positive contribution to Antrim Gaa but who are the progressive volunteers that are going to replace him. Has anyone any suggestions, I feel a high profile person like Sambo as Chair would help write the ills but people need to be prepared to volunteer. We are where we are because there is no alternative county board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 07:03:01 PM
We do indeed have a County PRO.

And again, can we quit complaining about people giving opinions we don't like here?
It's an Internet chat room after all!
This place is only about people giving opinions whether u like it or not!

If you only want to see action then go to the hurling pitches!
U might even meet some posters there too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 14, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 07:03:01 PM
We do indeed have a County PRO.

And again, can we quit complaining about people giving opinions we don't like here?
It's an Internet chat room after all!
This place is only about people giving opinions whether u like it or not!

If you only want to see action then go to the hurling pitches!
U might even meet some posters there too!
Well said btdtgtt, you sound like a man with sense.  It is only a forum for opinions, nothing more.  If you were running in the May elections, I might just cast my vote your way.  Are you a progressive thinker by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 14, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 07:03:01 PM
We do indeed have a County PRO.

And again, can we quit complaining about people giving opinions we don't like here?
It's an Internet chat room after all!
This place is only about people giving opinions whether u like it or not!

If you only want to see action then go to the hurling pitches!
U might even meet some posters there too!
Well said btdtgtt, you sound like a man with sense.  It is only a forum for opinions, nothing more.  If you were running in the May elections, I might just cast my vote your way.  Are you a progressive thinker by any chance?

The people getting elected in May have much more wages then me  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 14, 2015, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: SaffronHeart on April 14, 2015, 06:44:38 PM
Dunsilly and Casement are a complete joke. We are a laughing stock in both codes. The county board has failed us but how do we as a county get them out and change it with progressive thinkers who are willing to put in the effort. This is the conundrum we can say what we want about Jim Murray and co who I believe hasn't made one positive contribution to Antrim Gaa but who are the progressive volunteers that are going to replace him. Has anyone any suggestions, I feel a high profile person like Sambo as Chair would help write the ills but people need to be prepared to volunteer. We are where we are because there is no alternative county board.
So Sambo is a progressive thinker, are you having a laugh???   Go take your tablets and lay down for a while, you will start feeling a little better I hope.  We are and have been bereft of a progressive thinker for decades, not just during this current administration.  I hate to say it, but you and the likes of many others elected them! 

We are an embarrassment and the talk of the country.  Next year in Div. 2A is not going to be easy either, so not a simple road back to Div. 1B.  Carlow and Westmeath have both beaten us handy before.  Derry appear to be making in roads also and gave Antrim a scare last year in Ulster Championship.

Bottom line is, we are absolutely Donald Ducked!  The one saving grace is I suppose, none of you vitriol's will take up the poison chalice and attempt to do anything about it.  All talk, clap trap and and full of the proverbial shite! The same aul shit has been talked about for years.

Lets review things as they currently sit:

Div. 4 Football - (You cant go any lower)
Div. 2A Hurling ( A long Road back only to potentially go down again)
No County Pitch
No (never) Done Silly
Coffers are empty
And someone is suggesting that we let Sambo steer the ship! I wouldn't let him steer a hobby horse.

Heavens above, I wonder will the Clonard Novena ever answer my petitions???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2015, 08:58:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
As far as I see it, we are currently where we have been for many many years, more or less. Ok there has been the odd exception but they have been few and far between. It is therefore very unfair to point the finger at current individuals and paint the picture that they have somehow dragged our county to a new low. It just isn't true. Now, I have criticised our county executive many times on certain things they have done in the recent past, all of which I stand over.

Getting relegated to Div 2 is disappointing for Antrim, yes. There are, however, only two teams above us who we would hope to be ahead of (Laois & Kerry) and we would beat them as often if not more as they would beat us. Realistically it would be a bit of a shock for us to beat any of the other teams above us and it has been a long time since that was any different.

It isn't exactly "Antrim Hurling. Apocalypse Now."

Gees hs you're speaking sense...

Barring the years when dinny cahill was in charge it's been years as hs said.

By the way - it's the media who generally go to the player. Mcmanus may always be in the media but i bet it's the media who go to him. Graffin was there recently too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
I agree on a lot HS but when we fall behind those 2 teams it's of major significance when it means relegation - to a league which is not and never has been by and large our standard. So some recriminations are to be expected. If it was more or less where we've always been (not what win/loss stats say) then there probably wouldn't be the perceived need for a players statement which we haven't had before. But I agree with the "it's not apocalypse now" sentiment.

My final comment on the McManus thing and only since its been mis-interpreted yet again.
I'm aware the media generally go to the player - but the point I made was that someone in the Antrim camp should change this. That might be Neil as captain, the management, or the PRO - but sharing the media work would be more healthy for the panel as a whole.
Also - it wasn't the media that picked him for the New Jersey photo shoot or to be under 21 selector.
I mean for crying out loud - is anyone seriously disputing that one player has a preponderance of focus when it comes to Antrim hurling! Like none I've seen in any other county! That's not a personal attack it's just a fact people! C'mon look at it - it's not disputable.
Fair enough if you think that's a grand situation but I personally don't find but healthy. That's me done on it no doubt another simple fact will be taken another way.

So here's a final curve ball to move the focus on - is anyone aware that the statement was not unanimously supported by all players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 14, 2015, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
As far as I see it, we are currently where we have been for many many years, more or less. Ok there has been the odd exception but they have been few and far between. It is therefore very unfair to point the finger at current individuals and paint the picture that they have somehow dragged our county to a new low. It just isn't true. Now, I have criticised our county executive many times on certain things they have done in the recent past, all of which I stand over.

Getting relegated to Div 2 is disappointing for Antrim, yes. There are, however, only two teams above us who we would hope to be ahead of (Laois & Kerry) and we would beat them as often if not more as they would beat us. Realistically it would be a bit of a shock for us to beat any of the other teams above us and it has been a long time since that was any different.

It isn't exactly "Antrim Hurling. Apocalypse Now."
That about sums it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
I agree on a lot HS but when we fall behind those 2 teams it's of major significance when it means relegation - to a league which is not and never has been by and large our standard. So some recriminations are to be expected. If it was more or less where we've always been (not what win/loss stats say) then there probably wouldn't be the perceived need for a players statement which we haven't had before. But I agree with the "it's not apocalypse now" sentiment.

My final comment on the McManus thing and only since its been mis-interpreted yet again.
I'm aware the media generally go to the player - but the point I made was that someone in the Antrim camp should change this. That might be Neil as captain, the management, or the PRO - but sharing the media work would be more healthy for the panel as a whole.
Also - it wasn't the media that picked him for the New Jersey photo shoot or to be under 21 selector.
I mean for crying out loud - is anyone seriously disputing that one player has a preponderance of focus when it comes to Antrim hurling! Like none I've seen in any other county! That's not a personal attack it's just a fact people! C'mon look at it - it's not disputable.
Fair enough if you think that's a grand situation but I personally don't find but healthy. That's me done on it no doubt another simple fact will be taken another way.

So here's a final curve ball to move the focus on - is anyone aware that the statement was not unanimously supported by all players?
yes.  Players have left and a few have been asked back. Like I said this morning. To little to late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
Seriously.....What F**king odds if one of the players does more interviews or launches a new Jersey?? Was it him who get us relegated? Was it him who hand-passed the ball across his own goalmouth? Or hit bad wides? Was it f**k!! The whole team & the whole county are responsible for this. As Skull points out in regular basis...we don't do enough work as a county.

The bottom line as some of the more sensible posters have stated..we have very few quality inter county hurlers & if we had more of his ability then we'd we would be grand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on April 14, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
I agree on a lot HS but when we fall behind those 2 teams it's of major significance when it means relegation - to a league which is not and never has been by and large our standard. So some recriminations are to be expected. If it was more or less where we've always been (not what win/loss stats say) then there probably wouldn't be the perceived need for a players statement which we haven't had before. But I agree with the "it's not apocalypse now" sentiment.

My final comment on the McManus thing and only since its been mis-interpreted yet again.
I'm aware the media generally go to the player - but the point I made was that someone in the Antrim camp should change this. That might be Neil as captain, the management, or the PRO - but sharing the media work would be more healthy for the panel as a whole.
Also - it wasn't the media that picked him for the New Jersey photo shoot or to be under 21 selector.
I mean for crying out loud - is anyone seriously disputing that one player has a preponderance of focus when it comes to Antrim hurling! Like none I've seen in any other county! That's not a personal attack it's just a fact people! C'mon look at it - it's not disputable.
Fair enough if you think that's a grand situation but I personally don't find but healthy. That's me done on it no doubt another simple fact will be taken another way.

So here's a final curve ball to move the focus on - is anyone aware that the statement was not unanimously supported by all players?


This wouldn't be a major surprise as every panel is the same in this regard! Probably the men who wouldn't normally start. That's why all the loughgiel posters keep going on about the happy camp! If ur not happy in camp cdall/ Bcastle select ur off the panel coz you'd a bad attitude and u wouldn't commit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
Seriously.....What F**king odds if one of the players does more interviews or launches a new Jersey?? Was it him who get us relegated? Was it him who hand-passed the ball across his own goalmouth? Or hit bad wides? Was it f**k!! The whole team & the whole county are responsible for this. As Skull points out in regular basis...we don't do enough work as a county.

The bottom line as some of the more sensible posters have stated..we have very few quality inter county hurlers & if we had more of his ability then we'd we would be grand.

Glad I got it right. Someone would put their own totally different twist to what's actually in the posts.
There's no point even engaging that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 14, 2015, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 14, 2015, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
Seriously.....What F**king odds if one of the players does more interviews or launches a new Jersey?? Was it him who get us relegated? Was it him who hand-passed the ball across his own goalmouth? Or hit bad wides? Was it f**k!! The whole team & the whole county are responsible for this. As Skull points out in regular basis...we don't do enough work as a county.

The bottom line as some of the more sensible posters have stated..we have very few quality inter county hurlers & if we had more of his ability then we'd we would be grand.

Glad I got it right. Someone would put their own totally different twist to what's actually in the posts.
There's no point even engaging that.
yes men!!!! sure let them think and say what they want, but don't go against the grain or your doomed!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 07:43:04 AM
Have PJ and Jackson left the Antrim panel? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 15, 2015, 07:46:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 07:43:04 AM
Have PJ and Jackson left the Antrim panel? 

PJ, Jackson McGreevey & Barry McFall have left according to an article on the RTE website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 07:53:57 AM
I'd be surprised (although I could be wrong)  if Barry McFall has left it as he had recently just rejoined the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 07:55:41 AM
Milltown Row 2, I seem to remember a certain debate on this regarding who was the better team between Rossa and St Galls and you taking it fairly bad that someone suggested Rossa were a better team than yourselves as it stood.

Would you care to admit that we are indeed better given our tanking we dished out to you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 15, 2015, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 14, 2015, 09:39:40 PM
Seriously.....What F**king odds if one of the players does more interviews or launches a new Jersey?? Was it him who get us relegated? Was it him who hand-passed the ball across his own goalmouth? Or hit bad wides? Was it f**k!! The whole team & the whole county are responsible for this. As Skull points out in regular basis...we don't do enough work as a county.

The bottom line as some of the more sensible posters have stated..we have very few quality inter county hurlers & if we had more of his ability then we'd we would be grand.

+1

It all boils down to the lack of people working with our youth and the quality of what they are getting.

It also has to be address in the primary schools, post primary and higher education as well. Until that is being done were banging our heads off the wall.

forget about dun silly (i like this new name) as well. it will never be completed as we cant afford it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 07:55:41 AM
Milltown Row 2, I seem to remember a certain debate on this regarding who was the better team between Rossa and St Galls and you taking it fairly bad that someone suggested Rossa were a better team than yourselves as it stood.

Would you care to admit that we are indeed better given our tanking we dished out to you?

Yes and I said at the time if you cared to read the actual post instead off making your own idea up was that it was based over that last 8 years, and that we would not be competing in div one this year due to retirements injuries and just a lack of desire... now I hope yous had a good game against Ballycastle  :P, nearly as good as ours v Loughgiel lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
We'd no team but only a few points between us at half time. But sure as long as we win the battles of Belfast this year and stay out of the bottom two, we'll be happy. So far so good.

Jesus your lads were awful hard to listen to when you're getting beat. Looking forward to the return leg already.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
We'd no team but only a few points between us at half time. But sure as long as we win the battles of Belfast this year and stay out of the bottom two, we'll be happy. So far so good.

Jesus your lads were awful hard to listen to when you're getting beat. Looking forward to the return leg already.

That's quite a fall from grace, waxing lyrical about beating St. Galls for the first time in years and staying out of the relegation zone!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 11:33:05 AM
Do you expect us to win the Volunteer cup?  We are being realistic about our development.  A reasonable expectation will be to be the best team in Belfast, to see how we fare against the rest and to avoid the drop to 1B while continuing to develop underaged players and integrate them into our senior structures.  Hardly a fall from grace.  We always knew that Intermediate and Division 2 wasn't our standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 15, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
i think every knew that before you entered the intermediate championship last year.

It will be interesting to see if Rossa can keep that team together over the next 4 years to try and build a senior team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
We'd no team but only a few points between us at half time. But sure as long as we win the battles of Belfast this year and stay out of the bottom two, we'll be happy. So far so good.

Jesus your lads were awful hard to listen to when you're getting beat. Looking forward to the return leg already.

Now did you read back yet?? Or just continue to talk/post from hearsay?? We'd no team either against youse so? I've had to listen to your lads for years getting bate by a football club lol, your manager didn't even stay for the last ten minutes one year lol.... Anyway enjoy the win... Next stop must be to win a first round match in the championship..... Small steps
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
We'd no team but only a few points between us at half time. But sure as long as we win the battles of Belfast this year and stay out of the bottom two, we'll be happy. So far so good.

Jesus your lads were awful hard to listen to when you're getting beat. Looking forward to the return leg already.

That's quite a fall from grace, waxing lyrical about beating St. Galls for the first time in years and staying out of the relegation zone!!

I do love the city rivalry! Woke me out of last few days quagmire!

In terms of results Rossa have got the better of St Galls in their last few meetings between each division. Although they avoided the fixture when St Galls were a division above Rossa.

I think Rossa have had their fall from grace and are trying to get back up - we will see how that goes for them.
St Galls might be about to fall.

But I think this avoids one factor - we have no open St Johns posters here - but they have been more consistent over the past number of years than both teams. They are a dual club, like most of the City teams, and although they haven't really competed in Championship i think they deserve more attention and credit that both St galls and Rossa for the consistency they have had in the league recently. And consistency is what the league is about.

With three city teams in division 1 and four NA teams its a better balance than it has been and throw in the south west / Ards teams there's plenty of geographical variation. Maybe we should re-structure so the NA teams don't have to use so much red diesel ;)
Still I don't the Volunteer cup won't be travelling very far from NA for a long time yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 10:11:02 AM
We'd no team but only a few points between us at half time. But sure as long as we win the battles of Belfast this year and stay out of the bottom two, we'll be happy. So far so good.

Jesus your lads were awful hard to listen to when you're getting beat. Looking forward to the return leg already.

That's quite a fall from grace, waxing lyrical about beating St. Galls for the first time in years and staying out of the relegation zone!!

I do love the city rivalry! Woke me out of last few days quagmire!

In terms of results Rossa have got the better of St Galls in their last few meetings between each division. Although they avoided the fixture when St Galls were a division above Rossa.

I think Rossa have had their fall from grace and are trying to get back up - we will see how that goes for them.
St Galls might be about to fall.

But I think this avoids one factor - we have no open St Johns posters here - but they have been more consistent over the past number of years than both teams. They are a dual club, like most of the City teams, and although they haven't really competed in Championship i think they deserve more attention and credit that both St galls and Rossa for the consistency they have had in the league recently. And consistency is what the league is about.

With three city teams in division 1 and four NA teams its a better balance than it has been and throw in the south west / Ards teams there's plenty of geographical variation. Maybe we should re-structure so the NA teams don't have to use so much red diesel ;)
Still I don't the Volunteer cup won't be travelling very far from NA for a long time yet!

In terms of city rivalry we don't have it in hurling at all, we don't have an arch rival in hurling because Rossa and the Johnnies have owned that being nearly always div 1 back in the fay. Now in football we've always had the Johnnies and in the past  30 years Cargin... Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 15, 2015, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

Another mouthpiece......exactly what this forum needs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Because you'd know. How long you been posting, eejit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on April 15, 2015, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
As far as I see it, we are currently where we have been for many many years, more or less. Ok there has been the odd exception but they have been few and far between. It is therefore very unfair to point the finger at current individuals and paint the picture that they have somehow dragged our county to a new low. It just isn't true. Now, I have criticised our county executive many times on certain things they have done in the recent past, all of which I stand over.

Getting relegated to Div 2 is disappointing for Antrim, yes. There are, however, only two teams above us who we would hope to be ahead of (Laois & Kerry) and we would beat them as often if not more as they would beat us. Realistically it would be a bit of a shock for us to beat any of the other teams above us and it has been a long time since that was any different.

It isn't exactly "Antrim Hurling. Apocalypse Now."

I'd pretty much agree hardstation, and considering that it's a fairly young squad Div 2 might be a proving ground. Carlow, Westmeath & Derry will be tough enough for them.  My worry is when I look at what's coming after,  Minors got done by Derry in league final and once again we seem to have the story of players more than good enough but not it seems wanting to play for the county.
I also go along with the "get boys hurling for their clubs and pick the county team from that", with less county training restrictions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 07:37:48 PM
I was more talking about a general city rivalry MR2 than specifically Galls/Rossa. Agree historically it's been a rossa/johnnies axis as history dictates.

Jonathan I agree rossa get the upper hand on Galls by and large but I would have thought recent years would have taught some humility. St Galls have been to they final regardless of the draw and took that cushendall scalp - when did rossa last win a big senior game?

As I said I think the johnnies deserve more credit thank both for their consistency of staying in division 1 in recent years. 

Unfortunately we're talking about intra-city rivalry instead of forming any challenge to the glens!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 15, 2015, 07:58:11 PM
You city boys are always at each other
Could you not take an  example of how us North antrim lads get on😃😃😃😃😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2015, 08:25:51 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on April 15, 2015, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
As far as I see it, we are currently where we have been for many many years, more or less. Ok there has been the odd exception but they have been few and far between. It is therefore very unfair to point the finger at current individuals and paint the picture that they have somehow dragged our county to a new low. It just isn't true. Now, I have criticised our county executive many times on certain things they have done in the recent past, all of which I stand over.

Getting relegated to Div 2 is disappointing for Antrim, yes. There are, however, only two teams above us who we would hope to be ahead of (Laois & Kerry) and we would beat them as often if not more as they would beat us. Realistically it would be a bit of a shock for us to beat any of the other teams above us and it has been a long time since that was any different.

It isn't exactly "Antrim Hurling. Apocalypse Now."

I'd pretty much agree hardstation, and considering that it's a fairly young squad Div 2 might be a proving ground. Carlow, Westmeath & Derry will be tough enough for them.  My worry is when I look at what's coming after,  Minors got done by Derry in league final and once again we seem to have the story of players more than good enough but not it seems wanting to play for the county.
I also go along with the "get boys hurling for their clubs and pick the county team from that", with less county training restrictions.

Strictly speaking it wasn't the minor team but rather an Under 17 team that got beaten by Derry - over the last couple of years we have put an under 17 team into the Ulster League and under 18 team into the Leinster League. Moreover, it didn't look as if any CPC boys lined out.

Thought Eamonn O'Shea made some interesting points in the Irish News today about the necessity for Antrim teams to travel south on a regular basis "to compete against the best at underage level", for psychological reasons as much as anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
Agree for sure cloot but Eamon O'Shea saying we need to take youngsters southward doesn't tally with a county executive that denied a certain sambo an under16 challenge game against Wexford before the under21s. Didn't someone mention finance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2015, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
Agree for sure cloot but Eamon O'Shea saying we need to take youngsters southward doesn't tally with a county executive that denied a certain sambo an under16 challenge game against Wexford before the under21s. Didn't someone mention finance?

btdgtt -  I am well aware of that story. That said, my impression seems to be that things seem to be improving slightly in that regard. Whether that is thanks to the county executive loosening the purse strings or coaches/mentors/parents taking the initiative and doing things themselves (e.g. looking for sponsorship/funding), I don't know.

Are people more prepared to contribute directly to, say, a development squad, than to give money to "the county"?????

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 09:17:54 PM
Cloot: Some people already do - and others thru things like the senior hurlers golf day.
Some might, I dare say, want some transparancy of where their money is going! Especially given where previous county funds have been squandered recently!
But obviously in agree with your broader point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 15, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
What are ballycastle playing slaughtneil in tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 15, 2015, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 15, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
What are ballycastle playing slaughtneil in tonight?

A friendly. Michael McShane is now manager of Slaughtneil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 15, 2015, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2015, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
Agree for sure cloot but Eamon O'Shea saying we need to take youngsters southward doesn't tally with a county executive that denied a certain sambo an under16 challenge game against Wexford before the under21s. Didn't someone mention finance?

btdgtt -  I am well aware of that story. That said, my impression seems to be that things seem to be improving slightly in that regard. Whether that is thanks to the county executive loosening the purse strings or coaches/mentors/parents taking the initiative and doing things themselves (e.g. looking for sponsorship/funding), I don't know.

Are people more prepared to contribute directly to, say, a development squad, than to give money to "the county"?????
I contribute currently to Club Antrim, but I still have great concerns and misgivings relating to transparency and how such funds are accounted for.  Transparency and accountability are important aspects for me, I would probably contribute even more via sponsorship etc. but I am mindful that in recent times Club Antrim's profile and activities have been minimal! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 15, 2015, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 15, 2015, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 15, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
Agree for sure cloot but Eamon O'Shea saying we need to take youngsters southward doesn't tally with a county executive that denied a certain sambo an under16 challenge game against Wexford before the under21s. Didn't someone mention finance?

btdgtt -  I am well aware of that story. That said, my impression seems to be that things seem to be improving slightly in that regard. Whether that is thanks to the county executive loosening the purse strings or coaches/mentors/parents taking the initiative and doing things themselves (e.g. looking for sponsorship/funding), I don't know.

Are people more prepared to contribute directly to, say, a development squad, than to give money to "the county"?????
I contribute currently to Club Antrim, but I still have great concerns and misgivings relating to transparency and how such funds are accounted for.  Transparency and accountability are important aspects for me, I would probably contribute even more via sponsorship etc. but I am mindful that in recent times Club Antrim's profile and activities have been minimal!

I am in exactly the same position.

1. I am a member of Club Antrim.

2. However, I contribute a minimal amount because I have no idea whatsoever where the money goes.

3. I have had conversations with people where I have suggested I would be prepared to contribute more if there was transparency.

I would be interested in contributing directly to development squads etc (Friends of Antrim Hurling :P) but again would only be prepared to do so if there was accountability for where the money goes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 15, 2015, 11:09:30 PM
No doubt about it that there's a massive disconnect between the ordinary joe hurling supporter and our head honchos. Has felt that way for years from my perspective.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind

Genuinely not a wind up merchant.  I've read this board for a long time and have just set this up.  What I do have a problem is with St Galls thinking they are better than what they are and I think it's arrogance.  Maybe I did get carried away in my last reply a bit but it drives me nuts listening to St Galls men in work and around the place walking around with this undeserved swagger about them when they talk about hurling and thinking they are a cut above the rest of the clubs in Belfast and especially over us over the last number of years.  I'll remind you of the arrogance I am referring to:

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

I think that's a bit disrespectful to other clubs and after playing senior hurling for around 8 years now, I've never been that impressed by you or have never had tougher games against you compared to games against the other Belfast clubs.

We'll take our defeats this year but we'll stay up.  I can't say the same for yourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

I think sambo's views reflect everyone on here
His heart is in the right place and last weekend was very dissapointing
On reflection all the bickering on here since means people still care
Wouldn't it be worse if there was no debate on it with very little posting since Saturday
Hardstations post is the most thought provoking one I have read this week
We have been here before apart from the odd spike on the graph it's the norm

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on April 16, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrims-disaster-sparks-fears-over-future-of-hurling-in-ulster-31146844.html

Being a realist yourself DR, is the picture really as bad as Sambo is painting it or is there a bit of sensationalism in this article ( the headline in particular ) ?.

He says Ulster council have failed. How so ?.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
What date is the ulster hurling final played on these days OM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on April 16, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 16, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
What date is the ulster hurling final played on these days OM?

Eh ?.

Apologies Tommy. Too slow on the pick up. I've got you now.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 16, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

I think sambo's views reflect everyone on here
His heart is in the right place and last weekend was very dissapointing
On reflection all the bickering on here since means people still care
Wouldn't it be worse if there was no debate on it with very little posting since Saturday
Hardstations post is the most thought provoking one I have read this week
We have been here before apart from the odd spike on the graph it's the norm

I think we some times have delusions of grandeur about ourselves in Antrim when it comes to hurling. We seem to think due to our clubs being reasonably successful at the AI stage that were some sort of world beaters.

Theirs a strong parish bond in our clubs and a passion for each and everyone of our club teams that simply isnt there for our county team. Truth be told it never has been there. Our county has alot of band wagoners - see ulster football final for recent example - when the success is there and we jump off it very quickly when it seems that were not going anywhere. Its what Antrim county teams have always been like.

Playing for Tipp, Cork, Galway, KK etc has a sense of pride about it. Its something you have to be god damned good at before your actually allowed to represent those counties. People don't just wander on and off one of those county panels because they dont like the manager, cant commit, dont agree with training arrangement (add any other antrim supporters mental conspiracy theory's in here!) it doesn't happen.

The problems we face are much different that the likes of KK, Tipp etc. Theres over 600k people in this county, at least 60% hate/despise the GAA due to them being unionist. Of that 40% theres a good chance alot of them have zero interest in sport in general.

Our primary and secondary schools (bar a few) dont promote the GAA at all not again have any interest in doing so. Further education campuses again have zero interest in the game and we at least Queens and Jordanstown do something.

Theres so so so many kids out there who have never had the chance to even have a hurling stick in their hand and those are the ones who need to sought after. The kids are the future, its an old cliche but its soo true.

My nephew is playing his first match this weekend against Ballycastle in our academy for Dunloy in the under 8's i think. If he has told me once hes told me at least 20 times. His manager told me last night that he keeps asking him 'how many days is until we play Ballycastle?' hes near on the verge of peeing himself with excitement about playing a match lol

I think its brilliant and these people who give up their time to provide this opportunity for the kids are few and far between in all our clubs. We need more people involved, more coaches, more training for coaches, more people to get into the schools at Primary, Post Primary, further education etc and get them playing. Its no use a Primary School blitz once every year, it needs to be happening all term long.

I think ive ranted enough ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 16, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 16, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrims-disaster-sparks-fears-over-future-of-hurling-in-ulster-31146844.html

Being a realist yourself DR, is the picture really as bad as Sambo is painting it or is there a bit of sensationalism in this article ( the headline in particular ) ?.

He says Ulster council have failed. How so ?.

All you have to do is see the Ulster Hurling final for the contempt that they show towards hurling.

God forbid that beautiful spectacle we all know and love that is football  :o would be affected in anyway!

The ulster council are like an ex. girlfriend, you know they are about, they sometimes affect your life yet you try to ignore them as best you can!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind

Genuinely not a wind up merchant.  I've read this board for a long time and have just set this up.  What I do have a problem is with St Galls thinking they are better than what they are and I think it's arrogance.  Maybe I did get carried away in my last reply a bit but it drives me nuts listening to St Galls men in work and around the place walking around with this undeserved swagger about them when they talk about hurling and thinking they are a cut above the rest of the clubs in Belfast and especially over us over the last number of years.  I'll remind you of the arrogance I am referring to:

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

I think that's a bit disrespectful to other clubs and after playing senior hurling for around 8 years now, I've never been that impressed by you or have never had tougher games against you compared to games against the other Belfast clubs.

We'll take our defeats this year but we'll stay up.  I can't say the same for yourselves.

I'll reply once more.... The others was a go at the style of play... Having played against these other teams for 3 times as long at senior level than yourself, I'm coming from a different perspective.. The Rossa let you play the Johnnies let you play... Sarsfields Gorts and the rest will be a little more aggressive than they need to be. Gorts played sarfields last week... Bit of a disaster I heard... I hope you'd do stay up great kids coming through and traditions to back it up. Who do youse get in the first round this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 11:23:24 AM
Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 16, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrims-disaster-sparks-fears-over-future-of-hurling-in-ulster-31146844.html

Being a realist yourself DR, is the picture really as bad as Sambo is painting it or is there a bit of sensationalism in this article ( the headline in particular ) ?.

He says Ulster council have failed. How so ?.

All you have to do is see the Ulster Hurling final for the contempt that they show towards hurling.

God forbid that beautiful spectacle we all know and love that is football  :o would be affected in anyway!

The ulster council are like an ex. girlfriend, you know they are about, they sometimes affect your life yet you try to ignore them as best you can!

Sambo's sentiment is to be lauded, but not so sure if the Messiah approach from a director of hurling from whatever hurling stronghold would work in Antrim or indeed Ulster. What would Liam Sheedy for example, know of club hurling or the issues facing hurling in Belfast, Derry, Down or even North Antrim?

The answers have to come from within and needs someone or a group to take the thing by the scruff of the neck and put in place structures for everyone else to follow in behind. Spread the workload out to as many as possible to ease the burden, more people are inclined to get involved if they know that they're not on their own and can rely on the support of others.

TBH, Antrim CB seem to be a walking disaster zone, what is the full time secretary doing, how is he driving improvement and change? Who decides what's he's doing is worthwhile or the right thing?

Who decides what these full time coaches are doing?

Is it to a joined up plan, if so share with the rest of us so we can roll out the same thing in our clubs?

To my mind its all a bit piecemeal for me, a blitz at a certain age here and there, then nothing for a while, different rules one day to the next depending on the host club or county.

Foundation courses, level 1 courses run here and there, box ticked, move on to another itsy bitsy thing to be justifying their existence.

I know we're the poor relation to football, but FFS, playing ulster colleges hurling in November so that its out of the way to allow the football to go ahead in March, yet the hurling winners sit on their hands till March as well, just reinforces the point.

Tain league all over the shop, 'home' games and travelling an issue, sporadic fixtures, not enough to sustain an interest in the developing clubs, but hey, another box ticked.

There really needs to be better leadership from the top, but it just isn't there hurling wise in Ulster.

Oh, and Sambo talks about 'resources'. That generally means paid coaches, well if it does, I'm against it. I'd rather have enthusiastic volunteers with a hurling background properly prepared to do the coaching, given the correct equipment, hurls, balls, etc, etc to deliver worthwhile coaching sessions for the youngsters. Spend the money on equipment, facilities and development trips to stronger counties rather than someones zipped up tracksuit pocket.

The reason I'm against paid coaches is that we'll never be able to pay enough coaches to do the job in hand, so on one hand we'd be paying someone and expecting three more to do a similar job for free, its certainly not going to entice people to volunteer is it?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2015, 11:30:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

I think sambo's views reflect everyone on here
His heart is in the right place and last weekend was very dissapointing
On reflection all the bickering on here since means people still care
Wouldn't it be worse if there was no debate on it with very little posting since Saturday
Hardstations post is the most thought provoking one I have read this week
We have been here before apart from the odd spike on the graph it's the norm

I think we some times have delusions of grandeur about ourselves in Antrim when it comes to hurling. We seem to think due to our clubs being reasonably successful at the AI stage that were some sort of world beaters.

The progress of our clubs and county have rarely correlated. Clubs have alwys been able to compete at "parish" level but the strength in depth of other counties (more clubs at higher levels) means they have a greater talent pool that comes to the fore at county level.

Theirs a strong parish bond in our clubs and a passion for each and everyone of our club teams that simply isnt there for our county team. Truth be told it never has been there. Our county has alot of band wagoners - see ulster football final for recent example - when the success is there and we jump off it very quickly when it seems that were not going anywhere. Its what Antrim county teams have always been like.

Agree fully - the harsh reality is that most of us have always cared much more about clubs - except for the blazers etc in authority - how much of them contributed significantly to clubs? Not a dig, and not exclusive - just a fact that many county officials are not highly regarded by their clubs. So much so that some haven't even been associated with one!

Playing for Tipp, Cork, Galway, KK etc has a sense of pride about it. Its something you have to be god damned good at before your actually allowed to represent those counties. People don't just wander on and off one of those county panels because they dont like the manager, cant commit, dont agree with training arrangement (add any other antrim supporters mental conspiracy theory's in here!) it doesn't happen.

All to true. Its easier to play for your club with the chance of succcess, playing for Antrim is a masssive challenge for success and add in putting the miles and time in.

The problems we face are much different that the likes of KK, Tipp etc. Theres over 600k people in this county, at least 60% hate/despise the GAA due to them being unionist. Of that 40% theres a good chance alot of them have zero interest in sport in general.

Nail on head

Our primary and secondary schools (bar a few) dont promote the GAA at all not again have any interest in doing so. Further education campuses again have zero interest in the game and we at least Queens and Jordanstown do something.

Its not the schools/teachers job. Its the job of hurling the hurling fraternity to get into the schools. our system here isn;t set up to facilitate this. Definite area for development bnut I fear it's only going to be utilised in the South were they are more geared towards it

Theres so so so many kids out there who have never had the chance to even have a hurling stick in their hand and those are the ones who need to sought after. The kids are the future, its an old cliche but its soo true.

There was an article recently about promoting hurling at home before these grand schemes across the world. Never more true.

My nephew is playing his first match this weekend against Ballycastle in our academy for Dunloy in the under 8's i think. If he has told me once hes told me at least 20 times. His manager told me last night that he keeps asking him 'how many days is until we play Ballycastle?' hes near on the verge of peeing himself with excitement about playing a match lol

Thats the real GAA!

I think its brilliant and these people who give up their time to provide this opportunity for the kids are few and far between in all our clubs. We need more people involved, more coaches, more training for coaches, more people to get into the schools at Primary, Post Primary, further education etc and get them playing. Its no use a Primary School blitz once every year, it needs to be happening all term long.

Amen to that.

I think ive ranted enough ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2015, 11:32:20 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 16, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrims-disaster-sparks-fears-over-future-of-hurling-in-ulster-31146844.html

Being a realist yourself DR, is the picture really as bad as Sambo is painting it or is there a bit of sensationalism in this article ( the headline in particular ) ?.

He says Ulster council have failed. How so ?.

All you have to do is see the Ulster Hurling final for the contempt that they show towards hurling.

God forbid that beautiful spectacle we all know and love that is football  :o would be affected in anyway!

The ulster council are like an ex. girlfriend, you know they are about, they sometimes affect your life yet you try to ignore them as best you can!

Sambo's sentiment is to be lauded, but not so sure if the Messiah approach from a director of hurling from whatever hurling stronghold would work in Antrim or indeed Ulster. What would Liam Sheedy for example, know of club hurling or the issues facing hurling in Belfast, Derry, Down or even North Antrim?

The answers have to come from within and needs someone or a group to take the thing by the scruff of the neck and put in place structures for everyone else to follow in behind. Spread the workload out to as many as possible to ease the burden, more people are inclined to get involved if they know that they're not on their own and can rely on the support of others.

TBH, Antrim CB seem to be a walking disaster zone, what is the full time secretary doing, how is he driving improvement and change? Who decides what's he's doing is worthwhile or the right thing?

Who decides what these full time coaches are doing?

Is it to a joined up plan, if so share with the rest of us so we can roll out the same thing in our clubs?

To my mind its all a bit piecemeal for me, a blitz at a certain age here and there, then nothing for a while, different rules one day to the next depending on the host club or county.

Foundation courses, level 1 courses run here and there, box ticked, move on to another itsy bitsy thing to be justifying their existence.

I know we're the poor relation to football, but FFS, playing ulster colleges hurling in November so that its out of the way to allow the football to go ahead in March, yet the hurling winners sit on their hands till March as well, just reinforces the point.

Tain league all over the shop, 'home' games and travelling an issue, sporadic fixtures, not enough to sustain an interest in the developing clubs, but hey, another box ticked.

There really needs to be better leadership from the top, but it just isn't there hurling wise in Ulster.

Oh, and Sambo talks about 'resources'. That generally means paid coaches, well if it does, I'm against it. I'd rather have enthusiastic volunteers with a hurling background properly prepared to do the coaching, given the correct equipment, hurls, balls, etc, etc to deliver worthwhile coaching sessions for the youngsters. Spend the money on equipment, facilities and development trips to stronger counties rather than someones zipped up tracksuit pocket.

The reason I'm against paid coaches is that we'll never be able to pay enough coaches to do the job in hand, so on one hand we'd be paying someone and expecting three more to do a similar job for free, its certainly not going to entice people to volunteer is it?

Reading this brightened up my day JC!
Couldnt agree more with just about everything in it!
So so so true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:01:13 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 16, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
knew it wouldnt be too long before sambo would appear in the paper to talk about our county team in the Irish News

I dont always agree with what he says (rants) but hes pretty much spot on with what hes said this time.

I think sambo's views reflect everyone on here
His heart is in the right place and last weekend was very dissapointing
On reflection all the bickering on here since means people still care
Wouldn't it be worse if there was no debate on it with very little posting since Saturday
Hardstations post is the most thought provoking one I have read this week
We have been here before apart from the odd spike on the graph it's the norm


Ahem ..... I said it first if you don't mind  :)

Quote from: theskull1 on April 14, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
A sense of reality would do no harm.

99% of Antrim hurlers that have represented our county were only competitive at Div2 and the odd game in Div1B if another team wasn't going well. What's new at this time over and above the internet and unrealistic expectations? Not a wile lot. Its just being presented as a  disaster and its helping no one.

To create teams capable of competing at the levels we would like, takes more than a focus on KR and the current panel (or the one or two that might want to be part of it but aren't).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2015, 12:01:45 PM
Just read Sambos article. A few things. He seems to forget he was on teams that suffered some fairly chastening defeats too. As Hardstation said, now isn't much different in Antrim to any other period. It's just now we have social media etc so everything has to have an end of the world angle.

I could be wrong but Sambo seems to be making a pitch for this director of hurling that he reckons is so badly needed. I agree with JC about the paid coaches, and you find a lot of the time when certain people reckon that will solve all the ills they have a vested interest.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
Sambo is no Paudie Butler

...nor am I BTW ...I'm just saying he wouldn't have the skills for the job remit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
Sambo is no Paudie Butler

...nor am I BTW ...I'm just saying he wouldn't have the skills for the job remit.

Do you think everyone In Tipp fawns over Paudie Butler? Hard to be a prophet in your own town.

The person(s) needed to head it up doesn't need to be a hurling expert, if such a thing exists, they need to have good organisational and motivational skills to bring along the type of people who have all these other attributes needed for progression or at least to get the thing started. Local knowledge would be advantageous all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
Sambo is no Paudie Butler

...nor am I BTW ...I'm just saying he wouldn't have the skills for the job remit.

Sorry for the copyright infringement  I forgot your post

Sambo for varying reasons is one of the counties high profile hurling figures down there so he was always going to be asked
The lack of help and money for underage development is an issue he hits on
I don't know about putting anyone else on the pay list
Unless wages are on  a performance basis over some years
The one consistent theme from everybody on here is the incompetence of our CB and there lack of transparency of how our funds are being used
It's time our accounts where made privy to all clubs
Is our delegates asking the right questions and making the right demands at these meetings

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind

Genuinely not a wind up merchant.  I've read this board for a long time and have just set this up.  What I do have a problem is with St Galls thinking they are better than what they are and I think it's arrogance.  Maybe I did get carried away in my last reply a bit but it drives me nuts listening to St Galls men in work and around the place walking around with this undeserved swagger about them when they talk about hurling and thinking they are a cut above the rest of the clubs in Belfast and especially over us over the last number of years.  I'll remind you of the arrogance I am referring to:

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

I think that's a bit disrespectful to other clubs and after playing senior hurling for around 8 years now, I've never been that impressed by you or have never had tougher games against you compared to games against the other Belfast clubs.

We'll take our defeats this year but we'll stay up.  I can't say the same for yourselves.

I'll reply once more.... The others was a go at the style of play... Having played against these other teams for 3 times as long at senior level than yourself, I'm coming from a different perspective.. The Rossa let you play the Johnnies let you play... Sarsfields Gorts and the rest will be a little more aggressive than they need to be. Gorts played sarfields last week... Bit of a disaster I heard... I hope you'd do stay up great kids coming through and traditions to back it up. Who do youse get in the first round this year?

Again this is the arrogance that comes from yourselves.

We let you play hurling.
St John's let you play hurling.
Big bad Sarsfields and Gorts are aggressive. 

What are St Galls?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
Sambo is no Paudie Butler

...nor am I BTW ...I'm just saying he wouldn't have the skills for the job remit.

Do you think everyone In Tipp fawns over Paudie Butler? Hard to be a prophet in your own town.

The person(s) needed to head it up doesn't need to be a hurling expert, if such a thing exists, they need to have good organisational and motivational skills to bring along the type of people who have all these other attributes needed for progression or at least to get the thing started. Local knowledge would be advantageous all the same.

In many counties I'm sure, proper organisation of people who already want to be involved would be a good enough solution. Personally think in Ulster we need something/body more evangelical than that. We have a shortage of Indians. People need to be converted (if that is possible .... I'd be skeptical of that myself .... more often than not preaching to the converted).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 16, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.


But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind

Genuinely not a wind up merchant.  I've read this board for a long time and have just set this up.  What I do have a problem is with St Galls thinking they are better than what they are and I think it's arrogance.  Maybe I did get carried away in my last reply a bit but it drives me nuts listening to St Galls men in work and around the place walking around with this undeserved swagger about them when they talk about hurling and thinking they are a cut above the rest of the clubs in Belfast and especially over us over the last number of years.  I'll remind you of the arrogance I am referring to:

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

I think that's a bit disrespectful to other clubs and after playing senior hurling for around 8 years now, I've never been that impressed by you or have never had tougher games against you compared to games against the other Belfast clubs.

We'll take our defeats this year but we'll stay up.  I can't say the same for yourselves.

I'll reply once more.... The others was a go at the style of play... Having played against these other teams for 3 times as long at senior level than yourself, I'm coming from a different perspective.. The Rossa let you play the Johnnies let you play... Sarsfields Gorts and the rest will be a little more aggressive than they need to be. Gorts played sarfields last week... Bit of a disaster I heard... I hope you'd do stay up great kids coming through and traditions to back it up. Who do youse get in the first round this year?

Again this is the arrogance that comes from yourselves.

We let you play hurling.
St John's let you play hurling.
Big bad Sarsfields and Gorts are aggressive. 

What are St Galls?
Jasus give it a rest .
I'm not sure what st galls people you have been talking to but I can tell you the majority of the present and past hurling teams have no arrogance about them. Why would we, we've been division two (bar a few years) for the past 20 odd years. If anything the hurlers in the club have frustration more than anything else because of the what if and if only scenarios .
But you get out what you put in but we are where we are due to that simple fact. We only got a manager in place 4 weeks ago and have had 3 sessions worth talking about. Not ideal preparation for any division, certainly not division one so it doesn't look good for our survival this year and will be no ones fault but our own but at the minute we aren't div one quality. Hopefully with a few more weeks sessions we can get our act together and I'm sure the fellas will give every game a good rattle despite everything.
With regards to Rossa , like MR2 I hope they stay up as along with the johnnies on recent years the juvenile teams that they are producing has been a breath of fresh air and can only be good for everyone involved .
As for the best city team , who gives a fcuk. Certainly not us. We should just concentrate on our house and getting that in order instead of schoolboy comparisons so leave poor MR alone . He's not that bad despite what everyone says ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 15, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
A few things, MR2.  You keep mentioning over the last 8 years or something. I'd love to have the results in front of me but by fcuk, I don't think for a second you would have come out on top over us over 8 years.  I'll see if I can dig out the results somehow.  I think you're vision is being skewed by your two competitive senior championship games to forget that you weren't all that impressive outside of that.  The year you took them and got hammered by the KK team in the All Ireland IHC you were abysmal in that game.

But the real problem about you in particular and often with a lot of St Gall's men is that they think they are much bigger than their hurling boots.  Perhaps that is an arrogance that comes with winning a lot at the football but that's why it makes beating you the more sweet.  I noticed that arrogance in your last post as if you are a cut above the rest of the teams in Belfast. 

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

From my memory, I can't remember you being any means shakes and certainly not better than what you term 'the rest, hmm' of Belfast teams.  You would be at Sarsfield's or GNMs level to be honest.  Don't think you are any better than that.  You beat Dunloy in the SHC and got beat by Cushendall narrowly. These are what has given you arrogance??  Give me a break.

But as I said, we'll more than likely confirm my opinion in our next outing on July 1st at Pairc Rossa.  Enjoy your trip to Ballycran next Wednesday, angry boy.

I don't know you from Adam and nor do I care, you posts are directed it seems to me, so I'll take a wild guess and think you are a reincarnation of the tools that have been on before, if you are going to debate hurling that's fine I'll engage with you, but if you want to be a WUM then sorry, no arrogance by me either, Rossa are the Premier club after all. Good luck to you to in all your games this year.... I mean that. Always liked Rossa and was in contact with your manager about refereeing the challenge games he has lined up on that run to Croker.... I've no axe to grind

Genuinely not a wind up merchant.  I've read this board for a long time and have just set this up.  What I do have a problem is with St Galls thinking they are better than what they are and I think it's arrogance.  Maybe I did get carried away in my last reply a bit but it drives me nuts listening to St Galls men in work and around the place walking around with this undeserved swagger about them when they talk about hurling and thinking they are a cut above the rest of the clubs in Belfast and especially over us over the last number of years.  I'll remind you of the arrogance I am referring to:

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Maybe I'm mistaken, I've always enjoyed hurling against both teams as that's what you were allowed to do... As for the rest, hmm

I think that's a bit disrespectful to other clubs and after playing senior hurling for around 8 years now, I've never been that impressed by you or have never had tougher games against you compared to games against the other Belfast clubs.

We'll take our defeats this year but we'll stay up.  I can't say the same for yourselves.

I'll reply once more.... The others was a go at the style of play... Having played against these other teams for 3 times as long at senior level than yourself, I'm coming from a different perspective.. The Rossa let you play the Johnnies let you play... Sarsfields Gorts and the rest will be a little more aggressive than they need to be. Gorts played sarfields last week... Bit of a disaster I heard... I hope you'd do stay up great kids coming through and traditions to back it up. Who do youse get in the first round this year?

Again this is the arrogance that comes from yourselves.

We let you play hurling.
St John's let you play hurling.
Big bad Sarsfields and Gorts are aggressive. 

What are St Galls?

Seriously???? Look if you want to chat to me about it then use the PM function... Other than that you're beginning to sound as if you have problems with me.... I'm a Rossa fan, always have been I've absolutely no gripe with them... Whatever has you stirred you need to chill out... Hundreds of more damming things going on in Antrim on whether I think Sarsfields and Gorts are aggressive... Which seems to be your argument with me now...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on April 16, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
I read Sambo's article there, is that right, was there only 20 or so Antrim supporters at the game last weekend, if that's right, my initial thoughts are, there are some slabbers on this thread, if its wrong, I apologise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 16, 2015, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 16, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
I read Sambo's article there, is that right, was there only 20 or so Antrim supporters at the game last weekend, if that's right, my initial thoughts are, there are some slabbers on this thread, if its wrong, I apologise.

I'd say 50 max.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 04:35:43 PM
I'm talking about the arrogance which you displayed with your 'as for the rest, hmm' comment as if you guys are a cut above bad old Sarsfields and bad old Gort who come to bully the puritans of Milltown Row. Whether or not you are a fan of my club is irrelevant.

You said St John's = good, Rossa = good, the rest = hmm. I just asked where you think you would be in that list of Belfast clubs. I can only assume by your lack of response that you believe yourself to be a hurling club like Rossa and St John's who (in your own words) just want to hurl while the others are aggressive first and hurlers second. Reading this and if I were a member of either club, I certainly wouldn't want a certain St galls referee to take charge of my games with that judgemental attitude before a ball is struck.

By the way I was at the Sarsfields/Gort game as our game was the next day and what was wrote on here and alluded to by you in one of your last posts was a load of tosh. First game of season and both teams were up for it but it certainly wasn't the royal rumble that was described on here.

See you on the 1st July. Try not to spit the dummies out this time like the last time. There'll be no excuses then. You should have plenty of sessions under your belts by then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 16, 2015, 04:45:27 PM
Regarding the attendance last Saturday, I can't say as I wasn't there. Like everyone on this Board it seems. But, I was in Armoy for the regular league match V Laois - home game, lovely venue, critical match and with all of that there was about 200 people there. An awful level of support.

A very depressing few days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 16, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 16, 2015, 12:11:42 PM
Sambo is no Paudie Butler

...nor am I BTW ...I'm just saying he wouldn't have the skills for the job remit.

Do you think everyone In Tipp fawns over Paudie Butler? Hard to be a prophet in your own town.

The person(s) needed to head it up doesn't need to be a hurling expert, if such a thing exists, they need to have good organisational and motivational skills to bring along the type of people who have all these other attributes needed for progression or at least to get the thing started. Local knowledge would be advantageous all the same.

In many counties I'm sure, proper organisation of people who already want to be involved would be a good enough solution. Personally think in Ulster we need something/body more evangelical than that. We have a shortage of Indians. People need to be converted (if that is possible .... I'd be skeptical of that myself .... more often than not preaching to the converted).

If you're looking for the messiah to lead you to the promised land, I think you're in for a fruitless wait.

In the meantime surely its time the Antrim hurling clubs got together and banged heads to come up with the basic steps to progress that can be achieved outside the bureaucratic nonsense that is county boards, activities committees and whatever else. It doesn't have to be earth changing stuff, just a bit of vision to see how things can be progressed in the short term.

What is preventing Antrim from progressing and competing with counties of a similar hurling population?

How do you encourage youngsters to lift a hurl and want to play?

How do you make it an honour to play for Antrim teams and something for up and coming hurlers to aspire to?

How do you make club hurling stronger at all levels?

Are there enough fixtures of sufficient quality and at the proper times of year? (IIRC I think a minor hurler in Kilkenny is guaranteed 18 games a year, not including championship)

How do you improve the playing population in Belfast and how do you keep them playing into adulthood?

How do you develop schools hurling and increase club involvement in translating those players into club teams?

Are St Galls better than Rossa?  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 16, 2015, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on April 16, 2015, 04:45:27 PM
Regarding the attendance last Saturday, I can't say as I wasn't there. Like everyone on this Board it seems. But, I was in Armoy for the regular league match V Laois - home game, lovely venue, critical match and with all of that there was about 200 people there. An awful level of support.

A very depressing few days.

I was. Unfortunately. 50 max, including children.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 16, 2015, 05:03:03 PM
I dont regard taking kids teams as 'slaving away' - frankly those are among the most enjoyable and rewarding parts of my week, any week. If you feel like its is slaving away - then don't do it, because you can be sure the kids aren't getting much joy out of it. What do you want, paid for taking a kids team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 16, 2015, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2015, 12:01:45 PM
Just read Sambos article. A few things. He seems to forget he was on teams that suffered some fairly chastening defeats too. As Hardstation said, now isn't much different in Antrim to any other period. It's just now we have social media etc so everything has to have an end of the world angle.

I could be wrong but Sambo seems to be making a pitch for this director of hurling that he reckons is so badly needed. I agree with JC about the paid coaches, and you find a lot of the time when certain people reckon that will solve all the ills they have a vested interest.
Heavens forbid! Sambo, you cant be serious, are you?  Don't take this as a direct slur on the individuals character, but Director of Hurling??

I remain of the opinion that our county needs to look outside the box and secure the credible services of someone with no hidden agendas or baggage to carry.  The internal quangos and nepotism already in place have not served us well at all!

We need an objective and visionary outsider tasked to implement a real and meaningful strategic plan, if hurling is to survive in these parts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 16, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on April 16, 2015, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on April 16, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
I read Sambo's article there, is that right, was there only 20 or so Antrim supporters at the game last weekend, if that's right, my initial thoughts are, there are some slabbers on this thread, if its wrong, I apologise.

I'd say 50 max.
I wasn't there regrettably due to work commitments.  I was Armoy (Laois game)all the same and left very dejected.  If people will also recall, I did indicate that we should never take Kerry, Westmeath or Carlow for that matter, lightly!   We are where we are, and evidently it is where we deserve to be at this moment in time.  Sad but true.

With regard to the Rossa and St. Galls debate, does it really matter who is the better team in Belfast?  History would prove it has been Rossa without question.  Rossa have always had the greater hurling prowess and tradition, whilst St. Galls and St. Johns delve in both codes and continue to pursue success.  If truth be know, Rossa have always opted as a preference for the small ball code and have demonstrated a greater desire to achieve success in hurling.  St. Johns and St. Galls on the other hand would clearly commit a lot more resource and effort to the big ball code.

Either way, St. Galls beating Rossa in hurling (and vice versa) is of no significant consequence and does not make hurling strong in Belfast or Antrim.  Gorts and Sars, battering six buckets out of each other does not improve our lot also.

A sad sate of affairs!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
I'm glad I'm not a johnnies stalwart listening to that debate  ;)

The point about are salaried official remains valid Brendan - to deflect the argument doesn't deal with that.

I wasn't in Parnell and I have no qualms about that. I've spent a fortune travelling Ireland for good and bad times with Antrim - does not having the time or money to attend that game mean someone's opinion isn't valid?
Better still - many people couldn't go because they were so busy doing work with their own clubs.
Look at scheduling - does it allow club men to support our county? Does it hell! This from a county that scheduled club championship at the same time as the county U21 hurlers were winning an all-Ireland semi final!

But if someone can't afford to go to a game, has to work, or is busy in their club - then they cannot comment on their county.

Deflecting the point is another way of hiding from it.

Instead of trying to turn the argument by asking what others are doing - maybe the 1st step would be for our executive to acknowledge that something is seriously wrong. Heavens forbid.

And I will say again - it's an Internet chat room. If you complain about people offering comments then you can't grasp that concept.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 16, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
Sambo is spot on in everything he says in today's Irish News. He is still passionate about Antrim hurling and I'm sure he takes no pleasure in having his views splashed across the paper. I'm sure he would be much happier with a healthier state of affairs in the county. Yet some on here take it as an opportunity to have a swipe at Sambo.  The difference is Sambo has never stopped working away at either club or county level - often both - and owes hurling nothing.

And better still, if he was face to face with some of the people in county or provincial management he would be giving them both barrels. Fair play to the big man. I'd be a lot more concerned if he stopped caring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 16, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 16, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
Sambo is spot on in everything he says in today's Irish News. He is still passionate about Antrim hurling and I'm sure he takes no pleasure in having his views splashed across the paper. I'm sure he would be much happier with a healthier state of affairs in the county. Yet some on here take it as an opportunity to have a swipe at Sambo.  The difference is Sambo has never stopped working away at either club or county level - often both - and owes hurling nothing.

And better still, if he was face to face with some of the people in county or provincial management he would be giving them both barrels. Fair play to the big man. I'd be a lot more concerned if he stopped caring.
Its only column inches and a bit of sensationalism.  Despite his passion, he or any of us here are not going to change anything.  Regrettably, we have a fragmented county and an administration at National, Provincial and County level who are in denial , that's a fact.  Our clubs have to stand up and take stock also, they elected the county officialdom.

In many respects also, none of us have any god given right to criticise, we are all culpable, but underlying that, none of us is prepared to be responsible or accountable for initiating the necessary change.  As BTDTGTT has frequently alluded to, this is only an internet forum and not much different than a back page in the Irish News (which I dont read by the way)!  It is going to need loads of testosterone, radicalism, transparency and a high degree of single mindedness.  CB, UC and Croke Park need to be challenged, do you think Sambo on his own is the man to head such a challenging crusade, personally I don't think so?  Are you or I prepared to do grasp the nettle and lead the required change/challenge?  Is any one on Antrim GAA Board prepared to do it either???  For many, I would say there is no desire to drive this change other than talk about it on Antrim GAA Board.  That's another fact! 

So who is prepared to initiate the crusade and the drive for change, eh??

Otherwise, we can continue to talk here until the cows come home!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 16, 2015, 07:34:11 PM
"The silence is deafening"   - Enough said I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 04:35:43 PM
I'm talking about the arrogance which you displayed with your 'as for the rest, hmm' comment as if you guys are a cut above bad old Sarsfields and bad old Gort who come to bully the puritans of Milltown Row. Whether or not you are a fan of my club is irrelevant.

You said St John's = good, Rossa = good, the rest = hmm. I just asked where you think you would be in that list of Belfast clubs. I can only assume by your lack of response that you believe yourself to be a hurling club like Rossa and St John's who (in your own words) just want to hurl while the others are aggressive first and hurlers second. Reading this and if I were a member of either club, I certainly wouldn't want a certain St galls referee to take charge of my games with that judgemental attitude before a ball is struck.

By the way I was at the Sarsfields/Gort game as our game was the next day and what was wrote on here and alluded to by you in one of your last posts was a load of tosh. First game of season and both teams were up for it but it certainly wasn't the royal rumble that was described on here.

See you on the 1st July. Try not to spit the dummies out this time like the last time. There'll be no excuses then. You should have plenty of sessions under your belts by then.

Would you catch yourself on?? What age are you? PM me your issues and leave the thread for normal debate and stop being a WUM and a troll.  As for 1st of July I wont be here, keep me informed though as its the most interesting thing that goes on in my life lol.....wally😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2015, 09:48:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 04:35:43 PM
I'm talking about the arrogance which you displayed with your 'as for the rest, hmm' comment as if you guys are a cut above bad old Sarsfields and bad old Gort who come to bully the puritans of Milltown Row. Whether or not you are a fan of my club is irrelevant.

You said St John's = good, Rossa = good, the rest = hmm. I just asked where you think you would be in that list of Belfast clubs. I can only assume by your lack of response that you believe yourself to be a hurling club like Rossa and St John's who (in your own words) just want to hurl while the others are aggressive first and hurlers second. Reading this and if I were a member of either club, I certainly wouldn't want a certain St galls referee to take charge of my games with that judgemental attitude before a ball is struck.

By the way I was at the Sarsfields/Gort game as our game was the next day and what was wrote on here and alluded to by you in one of your last posts was a load of tosh. First game of season and both teams were up for it but it certainly wasn't the royal rumble that was described on here.

See you on the 1st July. Try not to spit the dummies out this time like the last time. There'll be no excuses then. You should have plenty of sessions under your belts by then.

Would you catch yourself on?? What age are you? PM me your issues and leave the thread for normal debate and stop being a WUM and a troll.  As for 1st of July I wont be here, keep me informed though as its the most interesting thing that goes on in my life lol.....wally😉
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Will you two get a room
Enough already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 17, 2015, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2015, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 16, 2015, 04:35:43 PM
I'm talking about the arrogance which you displayed with your 'as for the rest, hmm' comment as if you guys are a cut above bad old Sarsfields and bad old Gort who come to bully the puritans of Milltown Row. Whether or not you are a fan of my club is irrelevant.

You said St John's = good, Rossa = good, the rest = hmm. I just asked where you think you would be in that list of Belfast clubs. I can only assume by your lack of response that you believe yourself to be a hurling club like Rossa and St John's who (in your own words) just want to hurl while the others are aggressive first and hurlers second. Reading this and if I were a member of either club, I certainly wouldn't want a certain St galls referee to take charge of my games with that judgemental attitude before a ball is struck.

By the way I was at the Sarsfields/Gort game as our game was the next day and what was wrote on here and alluded to by you in one of your last posts was a load of tosh. First game of season and both teams were up for it but it certainly wasn't the royal rumble that was described on here.

See you on the 1st July. Try not to spit the dummies out this time like the last time. There'll be no excuses then. You should have plenty of sessions under your belts by then.

Would you catch yourself on?? What age are you? PM me your issues and leave the thread for normal debate and stop being a WUM and a troll.  As for 1st of July I wont be here, keep me informed though as its the most interesting thing that goes on in my life lol.....wally😉

You'll not be getting any PMs.  1B looms
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 17, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
who for? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 17, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
At this rate? Dunloy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 17, 2015, 10:58:25 AM
lol of course we will
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 17, 2015, 11:13:47 AM
Is that arrogance? Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2015, 11:30:14 AM
All a bit juvenile from the Rossa man .... so they say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ojonathanrossa on April 17, 2015, 12:32:22 PM
Just having a bit of fun but we are above you in the table!  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2015, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: ojonathanrossa on April 17, 2015, 12:32:22 PM
Just having a bit of fun but we are above you in the table!  :)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
Whilst Rossa, Dunloy and St. Galls continue their little tiff about their miserly league status, "the silence is still deafening".

But it is all good at Snr. Hurling level, KR and the team, are continuing to "look and talk things over".  We seem to have done a lot of talking and looking but very little else, but we will carry on looking and talking!  It would remind you of a certain Antrim GAA thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
Whilst Rossa, Dunloy and St. Galls continue their little tiff about their miserly league status, "the silence is still deafening".

What type of noises would you expect to hear at this stage? The internet has had its spat. Should we keep repeating ourselves?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
Nah, just wondering with you being such a prominent and vociferous Antrim GAA man, were you a potential candidate for leading the crusade and steering us out of the repetitive and perennial darkness, or is it all talk and negative ranting as usual??  You and some of your cohorts should put you money where your mouth is!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
Nah, just wondering with you being such a prominent and vociferous Antrim GAA man, were you a potential candidate for leading the crusade and steering us out of the repetitive and perennial darkness, or is it all talk and negative ranting as usual??  You and some of your cohorts should put you money where your mouth is!

Same could be said for you and I.... This forum is no different to what someone punters are saying in clubrooms/changing rooms up and down the county. Why people refer to it is beyond me...there are at most 20 Antrim regular posters, most people that talk about keyboard warriors are going on hearsay from lurkers or what they hear in a pub/black taxi... Or pick up something in the wrong context and go a little crazy!!

So any barflies' you hear talking about how poor Antrim are doing, ask them.... So what is it you do😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2015, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
Nah, just wondering with you being such a prominent and vociferous Antrim GAA man, were you a potential candidate for leading the crusade and steering us out of the repetitive and perennial darkness, or is it all talk and negative ranting as usual??  You and some of your cohorts should put you money where your mouth is!

Whilst people like you continue to sit on their hands? .... My club needs people as well, I'll try and develop standards as best I can from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 07:46:15 PM
Well, its like this hairoil. You have it all wrong mister, for starters I dont lurk in pubs, changing rooms or black taxis, not my scene. I prefer to come onto this forum and listen to the spurious, negative and self righteous crap which is spurned by you and your ilk. What I read and listen to has me thouroughly convinced (you and ths other 19 regular (im)posters) have nothing to offer but meaningless talk and clap trap.  It is indicative of all that is wrong in Antrim. Talkers not do'ers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 07:46:15 PM
Well, its like this hairoil. You have it all wrong mister, for starters I dont lurk in pubs, changing rooms or black taxis, not my scene. I prefer to come onto this forum and listen to the spurious, negative and self righteous crap which is spurned by you and your ilk. What I read and listen to has me thouroughly convinced (you and ths other 19 regular (im)posters) have nothing to offer but meaningless talk and clap trap.  It is indicative of all that is wrong in Antrim. Talkers not do'ers.

So ill ask the question again, what is it that you actually do??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 17, 2015, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 16, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
I'm glad I'm not a johnnies stalwart listening to that debate  ;)

The point about are salaried official remains valid Brendan - to deflect the argument doesn't deal with that.

I wasn't in Parnell and I have no qualms about that. I've spent a fortune travelling Ireland for good and bad times with Antrim - does not having the time or money to attend that game mean someone's opinion isn't valid?
Better still - many people couldn't go because they were so busy doing work with their own clubs.
Look at scheduling - does it allow club men to support our county? Does it hell! This from a county that scheduled club championship at the same time as the county U21 hurlers were winning an all-Ireland semi final!

But if someone can't afford to go to a game, has to work, or is busy in their club - then they cannot comment on their county.

Deflecting the point is another way of hiding from it.

Instead of trying to turn the argument by asking what others are doing - maybe the 1st step would be for our executive to acknowledge that something is seriously wrong. Heavens forbid.

And I will say again - it's an Internet chat room. If you complain about people offering comments then you can't grasp that concept.

I wasn't deflecting the point at all, simply pointing out that if someone regards working with kids as 'slaving away' then they should probably not be doing it. As for not being at Kerry game  - not was I. I have only made it to 4 county games in total this year - it doesn't stop anyone commenting on the state of our Association. Who is complaining about people offering comments?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2015, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: brendanbelfast on April 17, 2015, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 16, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
I'm glad I'm not a johnnies stalwart listening to that debate  ;)

The point about are salaried official remains valid Brendan - to deflect the argument doesn't deal with that.

I wasn't in Parnell and I have no qualms about that. I've spent a fortune travelling Ireland for good and bad times with Antrim - does not having the time or money to attend that game mean someone's opinion isn't valid?
Better still - many people couldn't go because they were so busy doing work with their own clubs.
Look at scheduling - does it allow club men to support our county? Does it hell! This from a county that scheduled club championship at the same time as the county U21 hurlers were winning an all-Ireland semi final!

But if someone can't afford to go to a game, has to work, or is busy in their club - then they cannot comment on their county.

Deflecting the point is another way of hiding from it.

Instead of trying to turn the argument by asking what others are doing - maybe the 1st step would be for our executive to acknowledge that something is seriously wrong. Heavens forbid.

And I will say again - it's an Internet chat room. If you complain about people offering comments then you can't grasp that concept.

I wasn't deflecting the point at all, simply pointing out that if someone regards working with kids as 'slaving away' then they should probably not be doing it. As for not being at Kerry game  - not was I. I have only made it to 4 county games in total this year - it doesn't stop anyone commenting on the state of our Association. Who is complaining about people offering comments?

Not that the original post in question was mine but:
Yes but u picked county attendance & a throwaway phrase - to detract from a post without addressing the main points of it being elsewhere - points u chose to ignore.
Buts that's ur prerogative - just like its seems it's our county executives!

Quite a few posters complaining recently about people commenting! On a chat forum - fancy that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?

Its my opinion just mine. But I think you're full off shit .... But hey that's just my thought... But keep doing what you do, as I'm sure considering the way Antrim is at the moment most people are happy with how you, get things done and done well lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?

Its my opinion just mine. But I think you're full off shit .... But hey that's just my thought... But keep doing what you do, as I'm sure considering the way Antrim is at the moment most people are happy with how you, get things done and done well lol
Ho ho ho, happy days hairoil!  I am glad you have an opinion, but there is a lesson to be learned, so do many other posters have an opinion, but in your book that seems to count for nothing and you don't appear to comprehend or respect that.  But hey, your seditious rabble rousing may influence some, keep it up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 17, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
The only province with no representative in the 2015 hurling championship referee listings?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?

Its my opinion just mine. But I think you're full off shit .... But hey that's just my thought... But keep doing what you do, as I'm sure considering the way Antrim is at the moment most people are happy with how you, get things done and done well lol
Ho ho ho, happy days hairoil!  I am glad you have an opinion, but there is a lesson to be learned, so do many other posters have an opinion, but in your book that seems to count for nothing and you don't appear to comprehend or respect that.  But hey, your seditious rabble rousing may influence some, keep it up!

Its a forum, you know that? Any numbnut would know people won't always agree with peoples view on certain topics... You say a lot  but haven't actually said  what you do (again) so from that id say nothing and you are no different to the ones you claim do feck all here... Which is fair enough. There is more to life that the fortunes (misfortunes due to the work you do well hehe) of Antrim gaa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 17, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
The only province with no representative in the 2015 hurling championship referee listings?????

I was going to post that with a reference to a few recent Antrim ref's opinion of themselves - but I couldn't have been annoyed with the "what are you doing about it" replies  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 17, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
A bit random but I have to post this!
Friend in Waterford here is compiling a dictionary of gaa terms phrases and sayings.
You know - usual colloquialisms like "schamozzle" etc and he was asking for some northern one!
I know the North Antrim culchies must have a few choice words!
Any contributions appreciated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on April 17, 2015, 10:57:13 PM


Not that the original post in question was mine but:
Yes but u picked county attendance & a throwaway phrase - to detract from a post without addressing the main points of it being elsewhere - points u chose to ignore.
Buts that's ur prerogative - just like its seems it's our county executives!

Quite a few posters complaining recently about people commenting! On a chat forum - fancy that!
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I'm afraid you are seeing round too many corners....I've no interest in deflection. None at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 18, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?

Its my opinion just mine. But I think you're full off shit .... But hey that's just my thought... But keep doing what you do, as I'm sure considering the way Antrim is at the moment most people are happy with how you, get things done and done well lol
Ho ho ho, happy days hairoil!  I am glad you have an opinion, but there is a lesson to be learned, so do many other posters have an opinion, but in your book that seems to count for nothing and you don't appear to comprehend or respect that.  But hey, your seditious rabble rousing may influence some, keep it up!

Its a forum, you know that? Any numbnut would know people won't always agree with peoples view on certain topics... You say a lot  but haven't actually said  what you do (again) so from that id say nothing and you are no different to the ones you claim do feck all here... Which is fair enough. There is more to life that the fortunes (misfortunes due to the work you do well hehe) of Antrim gaa.

So, everyone in MR2's reckoning is a numbnut, a tool and sull of fhit.  I would not read too much into the id by the way, just a bit of a skit in reference to Crossmaglen.  Reading between the lines, I notice you don't appear to endear yourself to other contributors with a rather aggressive and condescending manner.

As previously stated, I am not obligated to give you an account of who I am or what I do, but I am entitled to an opinion.  So lets just leave it at that, eh?  Well it is a democracy isn't it, well maybe not in some cases?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2015, 09:06:34 AM
Don't you just love folk who shit stir and goad to get responses and then call people out for their tone when responding?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2015, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 18, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 17, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Hairoil, it is like this.  Firstly, what gives you the right to question anyone on here, I am not accountable to you or the likes of you.  Secondly, it is not concern of yours what I do, other than to say, what I do gets done and gets done well, period!

You give the impression you are someone of some standing, but I am not that convinced.  I don't know who you are nor do I care in the slightest, but please spare me the indignity of your I do this and I do that crap.   I am sure I and other posters (well maybe not I) would be interested to hear what you do, which is of any substance and is making any significant change for the better in Antrim.?  I think the ojohnathanrossa contributor has you well taped?

Are you Kevin McGourty or one of the Sheehans by any chance?

Its my opinion just mine. But I think you're full off shit .... But hey that's just my thought... But keep doing what you do, as I'm sure considering the way Antrim is at the moment most people are happy with how you, get things done and done well lol
Ho ho ho, happy days hairoil!  I am glad you have an opinion, but there is a lesson to be learned, so do many other posters have an opinion, but in your book that seems to count for nothing and you don't appear to comprehend or respect that.  But hey, your seditious rabble rousing may influence some, keep it up!

Its a forum, you know that? Any numbnut would know people won't always agree with peoples view on certain topics... You say a lot  but haven't actually said  what you do (again) so from that id say nothing and you are no different to the ones you claim do feck all here... Which is fair enough. There is more to life that the fortunes (misfortunes due to the work you do well hehe) of Antrim gaa.

So, everyone in MR2's reckoning is a numbnut, a tool and sull of fhit.  I would not read too much into the id by the way, just a bit of a skit in reference to Crossmaglen.  Reading between the lines, I notice you don't appear to endear yourself to other contributors with a rather aggressive and condescending manner.

As previously stated, I am not obligated to give you an account of who I am or what I do, but I am entitled to an opinion.  So lets just leave it at that, eh?  Well it is a democracy isn't it, well maybe not in some cases?

You're not obliged at all I just asked, but you are very quick to ask others to get off their keyboards and put effort into the Antrim cause.... They possibly do so it wasn't an unfair request to ask you what are you doing fir Antrim.... But hey lets just leave it and move on

When is the Leinster championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 18, 2015, 09:53:10 AM
I notice in the round robin this year, 2/3 of our games are away from home. We could have done worth 2\3 home games. Thankfully we have Laois at home as this should be the toughest game. Group winner plays Ofally, runner up v Wexford. Would be good to win the group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
And immediately I find myself thinking we'll top the group no problem then we can beat Offaly!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2015, 03:35:33 PM
Are all our games not away?? I thought they had to be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 18, 2015, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
And immediately I find myself thinking we'll top the group no problem then we can beat Offaly!
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I like your thinking. I concur. Home game May 3rd v Laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 18, 2015, 07:17:18 PM
The first game is home to Laois on the 3rd may mr2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/ (http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/)

Decentish article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 19, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/ (http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/)

Decentish article.

I would agree with pretty much all of it, and the points he raises that I agree with - over inflated sense of our place in the hurling world, not enough volunteers etc has been discussed on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/ (http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/)

Decentish article.

I would agree with pretty much all of it, and the points he raises that I agree with - over inflated sense of our place in the hurling world, not enough volunteers etc has been discussed on here.
so basically the current crop of County players don't want it enough. Is that right?

What he fails to acknowledge is the fact that we've had three all Ireland club champions in the last four years. Yes, we need more volunteers, name a County that doesn't, but we undoubtedly have more talent than what we think. Like yer man here, I attend blitzes.  I attended an underage match in dunloy on Monday night. Both teams gave  it their all. A privilege to watch. Both sets of players a credit to their clubs. Something is wrong somewhere. I don't have the answers. But I do know change is needed. And, for me, that should start with the County board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/ (http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/)

Decentish article.

I would agree with pretty much all of it, and the points he raises that I agree with - over inflated sense of our place in the hurling world, not enough volunteers etc has been discussed on here.
so basically the current crop of County players don't want it enough. Is that right?

want it enough or aren't good enough?

Oh we beat London!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 19, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 10:50:10 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/ (http://gaeliclife.com/2015/04/john-martin-the-gnashing-of-teeth-feels-hollow/)

Decentish article.

I would agree with pretty much all of it, and the points he raises that I agree with - over inflated sense of our place in the hurling world, not enough volunteers etc has been discussed on here.
so basically the current crop of County players don't want it enough. Is that right?

want it enough or aren't good enough?

Oh we beat London!!
this current crop also beat Offaly in the play off last year. So yes, want it enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 19, 2015, 11:45:43 AM
I'm trying to decide how much of that article was written by simply logging on here. From all the huffing and puffing we have woken up to the simple fact that we are a very mediocre hurling county. Great Club scene???? You're having a laugh. Last season we hadn't one great club side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 11:48:30 AM
You've a very short memory hurlingstick.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 12:09:15 PM
Sie I don't think winning junior and intermediate club all irelands is particularly relevant to how we compete at senior county. Great achievement for clubs but only loughgiel's achievement shows we have guys who can compete with the best of the best. Using that argument too though carlow should expect to be better. Same could be said for them in the football about ten years ago but club is only a smallcross section and one club competing not necessarily reflective of player standards across the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 12:09:15 PM
Sie I don't think winning junior and intermediate club all irelands is particularly relevant to how we compete at senior county. Great achievement for clubs but only loughgiel's achievement shows we have guys who can compete with the best of the best. Using that argument too though carlow should expect to be better. Same could be said for them in the football about ten years ago but club is only a smallcross section and one club competing not necessarily reflective of player standards across the county.
the thing is Tommy, apart from the 2013 final every County final has been close and could have went either Way. I believe we have talent in this county to do better than we're doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on April 19, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
On what basis should Antrim be a top level county been reading this for a while there is no history of competing at top come the summer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
Nobody thinks top level - but certainly better than 3rd tier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 19, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
Nobody thinks top level - but certainly better than 3rd tier.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
How can such statements be said with such certainty ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 19, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
What a result for the deise!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 19, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
What a result for the deise!
mighty game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 19, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 12:09:15 PM
Sie I don't think winning junior and intermediate club all irelands is particularly relevant to how we compete at senior county. Great achievement for clubs but only loughgiel's achievement shows we have guys who can compete with the best of the best. Using that argument too though carlow should expect to be better. Same could be said for them in the football about ten years ago but club is only a smallcross section and one club competing not necessarily reflective of player standards across the county.
the thing is Tommy, apart from the 2013 final every County final has been close and could have went either Way. I believe we have talent in this county to do better than we're doing.

T.I.N.E. - SIE, "Talent is not enough". We have always had talented individuals and I would stress emphasis on individuals. 

We need more than talent.  What we don't have is resources, player and club buy in, we don't have cohesion or the desire to improve on what we currently have. Too many years on the road experiencing repeated and sometimes heavy defeats I feel has scared us immeasurably. Some of the crushing defeats I believe has created a negative mindset, of which it is difficult to recover from.  Our new young players stepping up to the county panel are well aware of our devastating hurling history, so they don't generally expect to achieve and taste the success which other counties take for granted. Antrim winning Ulster is meaningless and the straight run to the Ulster final, is if anything disrespectful to Down, Derry and Armagh in particular.

We should never be too surprised when Kerry, Carlow, Westmeath, Wexford, Offaly and Laois beat us. Other than the Wexford game this year, we are coming off a run of defeats, not alone this year but also last season too.  Such repetitive defeats have clearly left their mark on the lads, more worryingly the new additions to the panel have not yet had the experience of winning.  Psychologically, the current crop of hurlers know they have under achieved, but for therm there is not benchmark as such to aspire to.

In my personal opinion, for what that's worth, and if I am permitted to have an opinion, I am of the view as a county that our clubs are not prepared to throw in their lot behind either our senior football or hurling teams. For Antrim Senior teams, regardless of which level/league or code they play in, don't have high aspirations or expectation of achievement.  It is not something our players have come to expect other that the pursuit of a county gansey.  For some though, winning a county jersey may be enough!

If we really are serious about improving our lot, we need a real strategy which is measurable and achievable, we need major buy in by all clubs and players in pursuit of the bigger picture.  We also need serious investment in terms of coaches, and I mean real coaches. 

However, if our young people could experience and taste success achieved by senior hurlers/footballers, they may one day have a greater desire and aspiration to want to develop and eventually play for the county.  Talented young people are not silly, they will strive to follow in the footsteps of the giants of the game in their own county, who have achieved success.  Therein lies our problem, presently there is no catalyst for our young people!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2015, 08:31:52 PM
That made a lot of sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Personally i also believe some of the hammerings we have gotten have contributed very negatively. Last year we were doing great in leinster group stages winning all the games building a winning mentality. The next step was to start competing with the likes of offaly and wexford. Wexford then hammered us leaving us realising we're as far away as ever. Personally i found it one of our most disappointing defeats of the last 15-20 years and do wonder has that had an impact mentally. It wasn't the scoreline it was the fact they were on a completely different level.

Those things are bound to take their toll.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 20, 2015, 10:53:20 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 19, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2015, 12:09:15 PM
Sie I don't think winning junior and intermediate club all irelands is particularly relevant to how we compete at senior county. Great achievement for clubs but only loughgiel's achievement shows we have guys who can compete with the best of the best. Using that argument too though carlow should expect to be better. Same could be said for them in the football about ten years ago but club is only a smallcross section and one club competing not necessarily reflective of player standards across the county.
the thing is Tommy, apart from the 2013 final every County final has been close and could have went either Way. I believe we have talent in this county to do better than we're doing.

Last year was a poor championship, prob as poor as ive seen. In fact the year before that was only slightly just better.

I always like to believe that we have a vibriant tough club scene but truth be told it isnt really.In the past 14 years Loughgiel have been in the final 10 times, Cushendall 9 times, Dunloy 7 times with Ballycastle, St Galls, Rossa and Cushendun all have 1 appearance each.

That shows you that its just been a period of domination by 3 clubs and if you go back 10 years before that Dunloy have 6 appearences and Cushendall another 5.

In 24 odd years 3 clubs have been in the final 37 times leaving 11 appearances between the rest of the Antrim clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 20, 2015, 09:06:45 PM
A stopped clock springs to mind  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 21, 2015, 12:19:32 PM
if you also look at how many winners there has been it tells a story.

In Kilkenny there has been 12 different winners since 1975
Galway there has been 13
even in Offaly there has been 8

In Antrim it is 5

(i am open to correction in these stats btw)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 21, 2015, 02:03:31 PM
i think thats what i was trying to get at in a round about way lol

your spot on megaman. Ballycastle, Cushendall, Dunloy, Loughgiel and Rossa are the only winners since 1975. Sarsfields won it the year before that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 21, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: Megaman on April 21, 2015, 12:19:32 PM
if you also look at how many winners there has been it tells a story.

In Kilkenny there has been 12 different winners since 1975
Galway there has been 13
even in Offaly there has been 8

In Antrim it is 5

(i am open to correction in these stats btw)


2014[1] Ballyhale Shamrocks 1-20 Clara 1-13
2013[2] Clara 1-15 Carrickshock 2-10
2012[3] Ballyhale Shamrocks 0-16 Dicksboro 0-12
2011 James Stephens 1-08, 1-20 (R) Ballyhale Shamrocks 0-11, 0-15 (R)
2010 O'Loughlin Gaels 0-17 Carrickshock 1-11
2009 Ballyhale Shamrocks 1-14 James Stephens 1-11
2008 Ballyhale Shamrocks 2-11 James Stephens 0-12
2007 Ballyhale Shamrocks 1-20 St. Martin's 1-10
2006 Ballyhale Shamrocks 1-21 O'Loughlin Gaels 2-11
2005 James Stephens 1-18 Ballyhale Shamrocks 2-12
2004 James Stephens 2-16 Young Ireland's 3-12
2003 O'Loughlin Gaels 3-09, 2-12 (R) Young Ireland's 2-12, 2-10 (R)
2002 Young Ireland's 3-14 Dunnamaggin 1-15
2001 O'Loughlin Gaels 1-17 Graigue-Ballycallan 1-06

with my great use of wiki you can also say that in the last 14 years (kilkennys golden years) only really 3 teams have dominated the scene with 12 wins for BS, OLG and JS. which when looked at is very similar to the antrim club scene. Lies dam Lies and statistics springs to mind as you can pick what ever period you want and pick a stat to suit your argument (which I have done which will be pointed out). I think a lot of it is down to passion and desire within club, community and county, kids need from an early age to live with their hurl in their hand. when this is coupled with good and regular coaching/guidance can work. in Belfast where I reside I don't see enough of it within primary schools when the youth are most impressible. will continue my point later as I have work to do (caught on Gaa board lol)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 22, 2015, 08:13:32 PM
Has there been any new additions to the Antrim squad since the relegation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 23, 2015, 09:23:58 AM
Last nights games

St John's GAC   0-9   0-12   St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry
Ruairí Óg   3-12   0-16   Mac Uilin CLG   
Ballycran   2-16   2-11   Naomh Gall   
Cuchullains-Dunloy   2-16   0-9   Ghaeil Chluanaidh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
Was hoping that Naomh Eoin might have grabbed a win - a much better showing from St Galls judging by that scoreline. The Johnnies lads are viewing that as one that got away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on April 23, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
St galls let that game get away . Silly goals costly again and inexcusable amount of wides but a promising showing all the same . Fancy Rossa for an upset tonight :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2015, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: manballandall on April 23, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
St galls let that game get away . Silly goals costly again and inexcusable amount of wides but a promising showing all the same . Fancy Rossa for an upset tonight :)

Sounds up beat - thats one on the more difficult games of the year. Having ,ost against Rossa St Galls will not be able to slip up against the teams around them again. Snatching a few points elsewhere will help the battle between these teams.
Rossa play Loughgiel tonight? Strange day for the fixture but I think a familiar result!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 23, 2015, 11:44:58 AM
If Rossa travel the same way they traveled to Ballycastle then it should make for a game that wouldn't interest the neutral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 23, 2015, 11:47:48 AM
cant see rossa winning tonight, fancy Loughgiel win handy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on April 23, 2015, 03:14:15 PM
Have noticed that young paddy burke hasn't be lining out for cushendall this year, what has happen to him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 23, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
Maybe injured??..seen him recently and he's carrying abit too much timber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 23, 2015, 04:28:28 PM
ballycran have played all 3 of their opening games at home, be interesting to see how they fare away from home.

League formats weird this year,  in June we have 5 home games in a row! never seen that happen before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 23, 2015, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!

Securing division one or two status with 6 points??? How many points did Ballygalget and Sarsfields get relegated with last year? In an eighteen game league I can't see 6 points staying up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2015, 09:06:26 PM
Shamrocks 3-11 rossa 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 23, 2015, 09:42:04 PM
Close enough SiE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 23, 2015, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 23, 2015, 09:42:04 PM
Close enough SiE?
Aye. Difficult for both teams. There was serious fog. We did enough to win, happy enough.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2015, 08:40:20 AM
that fog came in shocking quick last night in Lgiel. It didnt make it that the game couldnt be played though.

time to break out orange hurling balls lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 23, 2015, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!

Securing division one or two status with 6 points??? How many points did Ballygalget and Sarsfields get relegated with last year? In an eighteen game league I can't see 6 points staying up.

Well its looking like Clooney Gaels and another to go down. Neither have played Clooney yet and they'd both be confident of getting points from St Galls and Rossa based on current form.

Hard to see either the Ports or Crans getting relegated now IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 24, 2015, 10:04:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 23, 2015, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!

Securing division one or two status with 6 points??? How many points did Ballygalget and Sarsfields get relegated with last year? In an eighteen game league I can't see 6 points staying up.

Well its looking like Clooney Gaels and another to go down. Neither have played Clooney yet and they'd both be confident of getting points from St Galls and Rossa based on current form.

Hard to see either the Ports or Crans getting relegated now IMO.

I would be thinking Clooney will be sure to go down - and I think St Galls will join them after losing to Rossa already. Shocks against big teams are less likely now IMO.

Forgive me - but did we confirm 2 down and none promoted?
Not that it matter when we'll change again as quick!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2015, 10:18:56 AM
from watching them against us on wednesday night i get the feeling they wont pick up many points. We never really pulled out of second gear agaisnt them. Our passing pulled them all over the place at stages and whilst the score line doesnt really suggest we were all over them we were. The majority of their scores came from frees, 5 i think in total.

They have some decent hurlers and are a big physical side but lack the experience to win the games at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2015, 10:04:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 23, 2015, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!

Securing division one or two status with 6 points??? How many points did Ballygalget and Sarsfields get relegated with last year? In an eighteen game league I can't see 6 points staying up.

Well its looking like Clooney Gaels and another to go down. Neither have played Clooney yet and they'd both be confident of getting points from St Galls and Rossa based on current form.

Hard to see either the Ports or Crans getting relegated now IMO.

I would be thinking Clooney will be sure to go down - and I think St Galls will join them after losing to Rossa already. Shocks against big teams are less likely now IMO.

Forgive me - but did we confirm 2 down and none promoted?
Not that it matter when we'll change again as quick!

Yes, I think its been confirmed to all clubs that there'll be two going down with no promotion out of Div2 this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on April 24, 2015, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2015, 08:40:20 AM
that fog came in shocking quick last night in Lgiel. It didnt make it that the game couldnt be played though.

time to break out orange hurling balls lol

Game was over by the time the fog came in, Rossa didn't look like troubling the Shams at all tbh and the scoreline doesn't really reflect Loughgiels hold on the game.
Who's the Nr 13 for Loughgiel? Very sharp, good touch but maybe lacking a bit with the striking at the minute.

Best (and fairest) hit ive same in a long time when the Loughgiel 26 got emptied. It hurt even watching it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 24, 2015, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 24, 2015, 10:04:31 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 23, 2015, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 23, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Ports and Crans securing Div1 status early by the looks of it!!

We made hard work of the Gorts last night, not really firing on all cylinders as yet, but enough to secure Div2 status till the real action begins next year!

Securing division one or two status with 6 points??? How many points did Ballygalget and Sarsfields get relegated with last year? In an eighteen game league I can't see 6 points staying up.

Well its looking like Clooney Gaels and another to go down. Neither have played Clooney yet and they'd both be confident of getting points from St Galls and Rossa based on current form.

Hard to see either the Ports or Crans getting relegated now IMO.

I would be thinking Clooney will be sure to go down - and I think St Galls will join them after losing to Rossa already. Shocks against big teams are less likely now IMO.

Forgive me - but did we confirm 2 down and none promoted?
Not that it matter when we'll change again as quick!

Yes, I think its been confirmed to all clubs that there'll be two going down with no promotion out of Div2 this year.

One of our players was telling me last week that  they will be "pushing hard for promotion" this year, until I broke the bad news to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Sad news coming out of fermanagh this morning. RIP Shane.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2015, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Sad news coming out of fermanagh this morning. RIP Shane.

Just heard that... Terrible news

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2015, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2015, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Sad news coming out of fermanagh this morning. RIP Shane.

Just heard that... Terrible news

RIP

27 years old? The game is not always fair - life is so fragile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 25, 2015, 07:43:35 PM
Ryan McCambridge is slowly becoming my favourite defender in the county. Really solid. N. Mcauley is one solid hurler too. McManus on the bench. Slight injury or protecting him from......  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 25, 2015, 11:48:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 25, 2015, 07:43:35 PM
Ryan McCambridge is slowly becoming my favourite defender in the county. Really solid. N. Mcauley is one solid hurler too. McManus on the bench. Slight injury or protecting him from......  ;)
He's a great hurler. He's on my County team.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 26, 2015, 12:35:58 AM
RIP Shane Mullholland. Great hurler and great guy. Taken too early. Exceptional underage talent with Loughgiel. Just a shame we couldn't of seen more of him in Loughgiel and I'm sure Antrim colours. Captain of the St Louis forresters cup winning team which included Shorty, Chris O'Connell and Eddie McCloskey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: antrimgeal1989 on April 26, 2015, 12:35:58 AM
RIP Shane Mullholland. Great hurler and great guy. Taken too early. Exceptional underage talent with Loughgiel. Just a shame we couldn't of seen more of him in Loughgiel and I'm sure Antrim colours. Captain of the St Louis forresters cup winning team which included Shorty, Chris O'Connell and Eddie McCloskey.
he scored 2-4 from chb that day. St Louis scored 2-6. Shorty got the other two points from play. He was indeed quite a talent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Well done to our under 14 hurlers feile champions... Beating Rossa good bunch of kids with a dedicated team of mentors looking after them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Well done to our under 14 hurlers feile champions... Beating Rossa good bunch of kids with a dedicated team of mentors looking after them
congrats.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
They play the winners of Ballycastle v Loughiel which is next Saturday in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
They play the winners of Ballycastle v Loughiel which is next Saturday in Dunloy
Do you know what time it's at lad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
They play the winners of Ballycastle v Loughiel which is next Saturday in Dunloy
Do you know what time it's at lad?

5pm SIE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 06:14:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 26, 2015, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 26, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
They play the winners of Ballycastle v Loughiel which is next Saturday in Dunloy
Do you know what time it's at lad?

5pm SIE.
cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 27, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
nice one, will have to get down to watch that match.

Well done to St. Galls. When was the last time they won the Feile?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 27, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
Around Karl Stewart's underage days??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 27, 2015, 09:19:24 AM
Very welcome to see the "Old Firm" Johnnies Rossa axis broke at underage in Belfast!
Hopefully a sign of greater depth in the playing pool!
Well done Milltown!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 27, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
Around Karl Stewart's underage days??

Possibly.... No coincidence that his young lad is a player on the team.... But in fairness Joe and Karl  have placed a serious amount of time effort and resource's into this team while both still playing senior for the club.... Hopefully like we have done in the past is keep this squad together and they will be going into senior team in 4/5 years.... Its the duty of our current seniors to keep us in div 2 or one if possible so these lads can develop as seniors. ... Oh they ain't bad at football either ffs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 27, 2015, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 27, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
Around Karl Stewart's underage days??

Possibly.... No coincidence that his young lad is a player on the team.... But in fairness Joe and Karl  have placed a serious amount of time effort and resource's into this team while both still playing senior for the club.... Hopefully like we have done in the past is keep this squad together and they will be going into senior team in 4/5 years.... Its the duty of our current seniors to keep us in div 2 or one if possible so these lads can develop as seniors. ... Oh they ain't bad at football either ffs!!

congrats, good team if still the same lads that won at u-12, but a serious amount of pressure being placed on one team. ive seen many on here before including yourself talking about the pitfalls of expecting one or two underage teams to push on and progress the club. it can happen (your minor teams of 98/99/2000 were the backbone of most of the success your club has had in last 10 years) but esp in Belfast your lucky to get a handful out of any minor team through to senior and even less if you are counting from u-14. Hope im wrong and all the best in all county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 27, 2015, 12:07:50 PM
its always the fear of any club to have a really good team at under age and they dont all stick togethter to senior and improve along the way.

Happened to our U14 footballers who won the county feile, lost the all Ireland feile final yet they didn't all make it to senior or translate that into success as they went into U16 & minor.

Its all about having good people in charge to continue their development. That and a bit of luck that they all stay together and continue to improve!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 27, 2015, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 27, 2015, 12:07:50 PM
its always the fear of any club to have a really good team at under age and they dont all stick togethter to senior and improve along the way.

Happened to our U14 footballers who won the county feile, lost the all Ireland feile final yet they didn't all make it to senior or translate that into success as they went into U16 & minor.

Its all about having good people in charge to continue their development. That and a bit of luck that they all stay together and continue to improve!

So true - and even with the best of intentions life outside of GAA is just as big a factor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 27, 2015, 12:29:56 PM
I was talkin til the a few Rossa boys at ODs yesterday during that South Antrim Feile  Final - apparently Rossa team was very young. Only 2 actual u14s playing, 5 under 12s and  the rest under 13.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 27, 2015, 01:54:55 PM
Talking to a few Galls men too and even they said all their boys were u-14 as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 02:04:54 PM
Silverware at underage (10/12/14/16 and sometimes minor) in a lot of occasions comes down to birthdays. The team with the better birthdays wins (assuming the same training done). This is particularly true in a county like antrim with a relatively small number of teams trying to develop hurling in the right way. Important not to get too hung up on it. If your juvenile teams are competitive relative to the size difference then thats still a success.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 27, 2015, 03:19:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 02:04:54 PM
Silverware at underage (10/12/14/16 and sometimes minor) in a lot of occasions comes down to birthdays. The team with the better birthdays wins (assuming the same training done). This is particularly true in a county like antrim with a relatively small number of teams trying to develop hurling in the right way. Important not to get too hung up on it. If your juvenile teams are competitive relative to the size difference then thats still a success.

Exactly right,
   Size at these ages can mask poor technique. That poor technique will always be found out in the later years. Can't say I know much about St Galls, so its not a slight on them, just people reading too much into juvenile victories and indeed losses and not taking a step back to see the bigger picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
A few of the kids are sons of current and ex seniors, always a bonus... But I'm not deluded, we'll take it for what it is and enjoy it, its been a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
A few of the kids are sons of current and ex seniors, always a bonus... But I'm not deluded, we'll take it for what it is and enjoy it, its been a while
Exactly. Doing well in Feile can make for a good launch pad lower down the club if the structures are right. Fair play to Joe and Karl. They developed the potential and it's paying off. Still, North Antrim winners would be favourites in the all county this year  I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 27, 2015, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
A few of the kids are sons of current and ex seniors, always a bonus... But I'm not deluded, we'll take it for what it is and enjoy it, its been a while
Exactly. Doing well in Feile can make for a good launch pad lower down the club if the structures are right. Fair play to Joe and Karl. They developed the potential and it's paying off. Still, North Antrim winners would be favourites in the all county this year  I'd say

Question;
North Antrim indoor blitzes to U10 are all ground hurling, but during the summer months outdoor are they allowed to lift?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Yes
One touch
No Soloing is the norm

That would be the same for U12 (but some clubs/coaches like to play full rules 15 a side)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 06:16:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
A few of the kids are sons of current and ex seniors, always a bonus... But I'm not deluded, we'll take it for what it is and enjoy it, its been a while
Exactly. Doing well in Feile can make for a good launch pad lower down the club if the structures are right. Fair play to Joe and Karl. They developed the potential and it's paying off. Still, North Antrim winners would be favourites in the all county this year  I'd say

Feile is so different, played early in the year but prep starts from under 10, always been a prestigious competition which we have enjoyed , more so at football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 27, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
IMHO, whilst important, too much emphasis is put on them when they are U 10, 12,14, 16.  At all levels up until U16, children should be allowed to develop and express their natural talent.  Its when they get above 16, is when the are most impressionable and open to diversion. At this age, I think it is when they need most attention, coaching, nurturing and looked after, which will enable them to overcome other distractions, otherwise we tend to lose them and don't have them progressing to Minor and U21 level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 27, 2015, 09:42:20 PM
I have heard Loughiel v Ballycastle Feile is now moved to Tuesday night next week.can anyone confirm this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on April 27, 2015, 09:57:57 PM
The feile match between Loughgiel and Ballycastle scheduled for tomorrow night is not being played as both teams play each other in the final on Saturday in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 27, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
IMHO, whilst important, too much emphasis is put on them when they are U 10, 12,14, 16.  At all levels up until U16, children should be allowed to develop and express their natural talent.  Its when they get above 16, is when the are most impressionable and open to diversion. At this age, I think it is when they need most attention, coaching, nurturing and looked after, which will enable them to overcome other distractions, otherwise we tend to lose them and don't have them progressing to Minor and U21 level.

That would need to be a collective agreement by all the clubs in all the counties.... as for ourselves we lost a host of players that won couple minor and under 21 championships during that 5 year period... thats the natural fall off as you can only play 15 and not everybody is willing to hang about on the bench or even drop down to the reserves..

We have been lucky with that crowd of players because they were sucessful their parents were all Galls men and they were in the main good mates.... replicating that will be the difficult part but as Joe and Karl came through that set up it wont be lost on them the importance of training/games/tournaments/trips to Croker and bonding trips... all these things work towards keeping teams together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 27, 2015, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: glensgael on April 27, 2015, 09:57:57 PM
The feile match between Loughgiel and Ballycastle scheduled for tomorrow night is not being played as both teams play each other in the final on Saturday in Dunloy.

The final is tomorrow week.... County development squad at that age group play on Saturday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 28, 2015, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Yes
One touch
No Soloing is the norm

That would be the same for U12 (but some clubs/coaches like to play full rules 15 a side)

One touch equals lift, 4 steps, tap on the hurl, another 4 steps then strike I presume?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 27, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
IMHO, whilst important, too much emphasis is put on them when they are U 10, 12,14, 16.  At all levels up until U16, children should be allowed to develop and express their natural talent.  Its when they get above 16, is when the are most impressionable and open to diversion. At this age, I think it is when they need most attention, coaching, nurturing and looked after, which will enable them to overcome other distractions, otherwise we tend to lose them and don't have them progressing to Minor and U21 level.

That would need to be a collective agreement by all the clubs in all the counties.... as for ourselves we lost a host of players that won couple minor and under 21 championships during that 5 year period... thats the natural fall off as you can only play 15 and not everybody is willing to hang about on the bench or even drop down to the reserves..

We have been lucky with that crowd of players because they were sucessful their parents were all Galls men and they were in the main good mates.... replicating that will be the difficult part but as Joe and Karl came through that set up it wont be lost on them the importance of training/games/tournaments/trips to Croker and bonding trips... all these things work towards keeping teams together

Its hard to break the win at all costs mentality in some people especially at underage and has recently led to me giving an ex player and parent a barrage of facts  ;) over not giving a f**k whether we win an U12 game or not, just give all the wee lads a run out and make them feel part of it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 28, 2015, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2015, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Yes
One touch
No Soloing is the norm

That would be the same for U12 (but some clubs/coaches like to play full rules 15 a side)

One touch equals lift, 4 steps, tap on the hurl, another 4 steps then strike I presume?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 27, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
IMHO, whilst important, too much emphasis is put on them when they are U 10, 12,14, 16.  At all levels up until U16, children should be allowed to develop and express their natural talent.  Its when they get above 16, is when the are most impressionable and open to diversion. At this age, I think it is when they need most attention, coaching, nurturing and looked after, which will enable them to overcome other distractions, otherwise we tend to lose them and don't have them progressing to Minor and U21 level.

That would need to be a collective agreement by all the clubs in all the counties.... as for ourselves we lost a host of players that won couple minor and under 21 championships during that 5 year period... thats the natural fall off as you can only play 15 and not everybody is willing to hang about on the bench or even drop down to the reserves..

We have been lucky with that crowd of players because they were sucessful their parents were all Galls men and they were in the main good mates.... replicating that will be the difficult part but as Joe and Karl came through that set up it wont be lost on them the importance of training/games/tournaments/trips to Croker and bonding trips... all these things work towards keeping teams together

Its hard to break the win at all costs mentality in some people especially at underage and has recently led to me giving an ex player and parent a barrage of facts  ;) over not giving a f**k whether we win an U12 game or not, just give all the wee lads a run out and make them feel part of it.
+1 and coach them all from 1st till last, don't let the 3/4 naturally gifted players mask poor basic standards throughout the team. As coaches we owe our kids that at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 28, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 28, 2015, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 27, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Yes
One touch
No Soloing is the norm

That would be the same for U12 (but some clubs/coaches like to play full rules 15 a side)

One touch equals lift, 4 steps, tap on the hurl, another 4 steps then strike I presume?


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 27, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
IMHO, whilst important, too much emphasis is put on them when they are U 10, 12,14, 16.  At all levels up until U16, children should be allowed to develop and express their natural talent.  Its when they get above 16, is when the are most impressionable and open to diversion. At this age, I think it is when they need most attention, coaching, nurturing and looked after, which will enable them to overcome other distractions, otherwise we tend to lose them and don't have them progressing to Minor and U21 level.

That would need to be a collective agreement by all the clubs in all the counties.... as for ourselves we lost a host of players that won couple minor and under 21 championships during that 5 year period... thats the natural fall off as you can only play 15 and not everybody is willing to hang about on the bench or even drop down to the reserves..

We have been lucky with that crowd of players because they were sucessful their parents were all Galls men and they were in the main good mates.... replicating that will be the difficult part but as Joe and Karl came through that set up it wont be lost on them the importance of training/games/tournaments/trips to Croker and bonding trips... all these things work towards keeping teams together

Its hard to break the win at all costs mentality in some people especially at underage and has recently led to me giving an ex player and parent a barrage of facts  ;) over not giving a f**k whether we win an U12 game or not, just give all the wee lads a run out and make them feel part of it.
Good on ya JC, that's the ticket.  Giving all kids a run out, being part of, having fun and enjoying the experience, that's what its all about in my book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 28, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Great to hear these recent posts... Anyone from Loughiel/Ballycastle confirm if NA feile is this Saturday. I've heard conflicting dates
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2015, 09:28:30 AM
I read that's there's movement on Dunsilly. If correct, not before time. Apparently it'll be up and running by June next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 29, 2015, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2015, 09:28:30 AM
I read that's there's movement on Dunsilly. If correct, not before time. Apparently it'll be up and running by June next year.

Dun't be silly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 29, 2015, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 29, 2015, 09:28:30 AM
I read that's there's movement on Dunsilly. If correct, not before time. Apparently it'll be up and running by June next year.
Probably a greater chance of a collective bowel movement in the first instance.  Is this the means of the current administration redeeming themselves and being vindicated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 29, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
can someone explain the nth antrim process for selecting the finalists for the nth Antrim feile final.

Think we (sth) could learn from it as it seems that there were whole pile more games played to get the eventual finalists and winners.

Also, was looking at the score lines from some of the games played and it seems that Oisins weren't too bad this year, which is great to see! any time i've watched Oisins play they always been tough tight games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2015, 02:29:54 PM
Round Robin system ...every team plays each other...then top 2 teams go into the final ... if theres a tie for 2nd/3rd, then a play off game.

Same format for Feile A & Feile B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 29, 2015, 02:35:23 PM
probably a better option, think Down do something similar. two finalists in Sth Antrim - St Galls played 2 games, Rossa played 3.
Last year was worse as Rossa were due to play St Pauls in semi, they FTF so Rossa played St. Galls in final (1 Game!!) and went through to All County Feile final...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 29, 2015, 04:00:23 PM
See PJ has left the panel due to work reasons.  Granted he's been below his usual standards, but a loss none the less.  Interesting to see what sort of team is out for the game with Laois.  Am honestly hoping for a back lash after a very disappointing league and playoff.  Surely need to win this one if were to salvage a bit of pride.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 29, 2015, 05:10:45 PM
SG they looked sharp against your boys on Saturday. Fitter and stronger. Still look lacking up front. Dan McCloskey is a right player. Would he have no interest in County?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 29, 2015, 05:26:01 PM
I don't no if he's ever been approached to be honest.  I no Eddie and liam were approached.  Liam isn't back training with us yet after the operation,Eddie had exams over the next few weeks and couldn't commit.  Dan is a very sharp skillful forward. Maybe a year or so to early for him at that level. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 29, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
Jesus the team would be a lot healthier with those 3!! Anyway, hopefully we can beat Laois on Sunday.... Glass half full and all that. Good to see Martin Scullion back hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 29, 2015, 05:45:49 PM
I really hope to god we can beat Laois at home.  Was chatting to a starting member recently and he told me that all will be well again after they beat Laois.  So heres hoping!!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 29, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
In any sport sometimes the best team performances are about addressing a previous failure.
It's championship. 
We are at home.
We can beat Laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 29, 2015, 08:11:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 29, 2015, 07:51:51 PM
In any sport sometimes the best team performances are about addressing a previous failure.
It's championship. 
We are at home.
We can beat Laois.
Now that's what I like to hear, pure optimism.  Good luck to the lads on Sunday, I really am hoping we can salvage something from a dismal league performance and restore a bit of pride, boy do we need it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2015, 10:33:31 PM
Like everyone else I hope to see a good performance

From my perspective.....
Beating Laois will not make everything alright again. Likewise getting beat by them will not mean we should hang our headad in shame
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 29, 2015, 10:45:21 PM
No it won't make everything alright, but it would be a bit of a statement that we actually aren't as bad as we've showed in league. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2015, 11:22:47 PM
To take anything more than the enjoyment of the win would be foolish IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 29, 2015, 11:57:07 PM
Let them just win it firstly, enjoy the win and see where we go from there, nothing more, nothing less.  A win would be a step in the right direction, especially for some of the younger lads.  But it would appear some believe a win would be foolish, I ask you, is it any wonder??

A win over an old adversary should be enjoyed, savoured and considered a stepping stone and build a foundation to progress. A win would be welcomed by the players and supporters alike and the habit and good feeling of winning again, something they have not been accustomed to for  a considerable time.  They can take a positive spin out of that and aim to secure further wins.  What can be wrong with that I say?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 01:10:38 AM
People will get ahead of themselves regardless of the result.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 30, 2015, 01:25:19 AM
Anyone with a titter of wit would soon realise that a win over Laois would not be a platform for getting ahead of themselves.  But  a defeat would be more devastating, which we certainly do not need.  The lads need to be cut a bit of slack and be given all the encouragement they can, which I am sure most of us will provide. I'm not sure about others all the same!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 30, 2015, 01:36:36 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 29, 2015, 11:57:07 PM
Let them just win it firstly, enjoy the win and see where we go from there, nothing more, nothing less.  A win would be a step in the right direction, especially for some of the younger lads.  But it would appear some believe a win would be foolish, I ask you, is it any wonder??

A win over an old adversary should be enjoyed, savoured and considered a stepping stone and build a foundation to progress. A win would be welcomed by the players and supporters alike and the habit and good feeling of winning again, something they have not been accustomed to for  a considerable time.  They can take a positive spin out of that and aim to secure further wins.  What can be wrong with that I say?
agreed.  How it would be foolish to think of it as being a great result after what has been a tanking all year.   I suppose opinions and all that.  It being a hurling forum for all types of people to express an opinion. There isn't really a wrong or right to it.   I believe it would be nice to recoup some sort of pride after being defeated by them.  But here. It's all very well talking on here. It's the hurlers that has to hopefully do the business. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 30, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
Lets just let the game pan out before we start with the outlook from it either way already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 30, 2015, 10:49:13 AM
The last few posts highlight the problem we as a county have (from CB down to players and supporters). We are living in the golden 1989 era and can't grasp that we are now at the same level as Laois/Carlow/Westmeath/Kerry. The sooner we get over ourselves and be realistic the sooner we will be able to make small steps in the right direction. We are an arrogant breed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Here here, were Sh*te so get over it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2015, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Here here, were Sh*te so get over it.
Succinctly put Jeepers Creepers ;D

Yeah it was a bit cringeworthy listening earlier in the year to people say on this thread how we should beat Laois effectively pulling up.

We are where we are and beating Laois would be a great result. Anything after that is a bonus. *If* we were to beat Laois no guarantee we'd beat everyone else in the group either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 30, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
I said before in a post that we had 'delusions of grandeur' about ourselves in terms of where we think Antrim hurling is.

Too many of us think because our club teams can give a good account of ourselves that somehow we should be afforded this place at the top of the table of hurling. We dont deserve to be at the top table in terms of hurling here.

The results over the years speak volumes. 1 league win in 3 years, countless hard luck stories, no in roads in Leinster, minors hammered each time out of ulster.

Im as big a fan of my county as you all are and i always go to the games hoping we can get a result but knowing that if we get beat i wont be too shocked. Were all the same.

I went to portlaois last year for the wexford game thinking we could do it, that we could beat them after topping that group. Oh how wrong i was. Back to being a normal Antrim fan again!

Im always optimistic that were going to change but at the same time realistic to know that it wont happen in the near future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 12:02:00 PM
I think we as a county do rightly when you consider the limited number of people prepared to be part of any positive momentum being sustained. There is zero need for anyone who is part of trying (and would love) to get Antrim closer to the hurling peleton to feel ashamed of their efforts. The problem is more backup and sustained support is needed. That may very well not happen, so lets just enjoy our hurling and respect what we are doing a bit more. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on April 30, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
Few new additions to the squad according to the Irish news. 3 from St endas, 1 rossa armoy cloughmills and carey. Anybody know anything about these lads?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 30, 2015, 02:08:21 PM
know the Rossa lad, he's quick, decent with the ball (clever) bit like one of the previous comments on the thread about the l'guile lad Dan, probably needs another year or two at club level to develop more before he's in the mix.

would be one of a few from intermediate team that should be considered...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 28, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Great to hear these recent posts... Anyone from Loughiel/Ballycastle confirm if NA feile is this Saturday. I've heard conflicting dates

Both NA Feile A & B Finals will be in Dunloy this Saturday (no times yet)

NA Féile B   2 May 2015   Con Magees      v      Shane O Neills      Final   
NA Féile A   2 May 2015   Loughgiel      v      Ballycastle      Final   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 30, 2015, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Here here, were Sh*te so get over it.
So to conclude, we are Sh**e, makes you wonder why we bother at all, very defeatist I must say JC!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 30, 2015, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Here here, were Sh*te so get over it.
So to conclude, we are Sh**e, makes you wonder why we bother at all, very defeatist I must say JC!

The belief that we are good or should be is what is holding this county back. To many people put the county on a pedestal and when we get beat over and over again by the same teams who are supposedly 'lesser' counties, take it very badly and become angry. That gets us no where. Please see previous 500 pages of yes we are..no we're not... We need a collective belief that we are not as good as we think we are and then move forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 30, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 28, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Great to hear these recent posts... Anyone from Loughiel/Ballycastle confirm if NA feile is this Saturday. I've heard conflicting dates

Both NA Feile A & B Finals will be in Dunloy this Saturday (no times yet)

NA Féile B   2 May 2015   Con Magees      v      Shane O Neills      Final   
NA Féile A   2 May 2015   Loughgiel      v      Ballycastle      Final

Cheers Skull ......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on April 30, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on April 30, 2015, 03:50:34 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Here here, were Sh*te so get over it.
So to conclude, we are Sh**e, makes you wonder why we bother at all, very defeatist I must say JC!

The belief that we are good or should be is what is holding this county back. To many people put the county on a pedestal and when we get beat over and over again by the same teams who are supposedly 'lesser' counties, take it very badly and become angry. That gets us no where. Please see previous 500 pages of yes we are..no we're not... We need a collective belief that we are not as good as we think we are and then move forward.
I believe we should always be aspiring to play at the top level, it should be the very essence of what drives us, otherwise, do we raise our hands and give up?  Unquestionably, Croke Park, Ulster Council and CB have not served Antrim hurling well over the years, but are we supposed to go begging for the assistance we need? Despite the humility of begging, we must continue and strive to help ourselves. Nobody is going to feel obligated to pull us out of a hole, this is something we must do ourselves.  One thing for sure though, I am still an advocate that we continue to go outside this county for a hurling manager, the internal shenanigans (crap) that goes on between CB and our clubs is embarrassing to say the least.


Forget about the previous 500 pages, it just epitomises the level of frustration and negative rantings of those, who whilst they say are great hurling men/persons, are equally caught up in the slanderous negativities which are doled out,when we under perform and experience the perennial hammering's.

The county needs a major shake up and restructuring, individuals weeded out, less clubs and as you rightly alluded to, a significant degree of cohesion.  Are we united, are we cohesive, are we committed, are we going to bust a gut to ensure we bring about change??  Are we going to fund raise, are we prepared to look beyond our own insular club focus, are we collectively going to sit down and draft a meaningful and  strategic plan which will drive us forward, instead of dumped on a shelf and gather dust??  Nah, we are going to blame someone else for our miserly lot and history.  Bloody hell, we cant blame the Brits for that can we?  We all need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and apportioning blame elsewhere! 

Now for the call for action, will you kick off the crusade or will you sign up?  Therein lies the question for us all?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on April 30, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 30, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 30, 2015, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 28, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Great to hear these recent posts... Anyone from Loughiel/Ballycastle confirm if NA feile is this Saturday. I've heard conflicting dates

Both NA Feile A & B Finals will be in Dunloy this Saturday (no times yet)

NA Féile B   2 May 2015   Con Magees      v      Shane O Neills      Final   
NA Féile A   2 May 2015   Loughgiel      v      Ballycastle      Final

Cheers Skull ......

Matches are at 4pm and 5pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 01, 2015, 07:52:19 AM
NA Féile B 2 May 2015 Con Magees v St Mac Nissi's Final
NA Féile A 2 May 2015 Loughgiel v Ballycastle Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 01, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: frostbit on May 01, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
Has anyone any idea as to the starting team on Sunday given all the latest additions? 

This season is a write off really but I still get the championship butterflies about it and personally I think it's a good thing to see new faces on board.

1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
4
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
5
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
6
Conor Mc Kinley
Cú Chullain
7
John Dillon
Fanaithe An Gleanna
8
Neil Mc Manus
Ruairi Og
9
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
10
Michael Dudley
Naomh Eoin
11
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
12
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
13
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
14
Dessie Mc Clean
Gortnamona
15
Conor Johnson
Naomh Eoin
16
Eoin Gillan
Ruairi Og
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoin Mc Alonan
Mac Uilin
19
Ruairi Diamond
Naomh Eanna
20
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
21
Tomas McCann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Cormac Ross
Naomh Eanna
23
Deaglan Murphy
Uí Dhonnabháin Rosa
24
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
25
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
26
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2015, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 01, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: frostbit on May 01, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
Has anyone any idea as to the starting team on Sunday given all the latest additions? 

This season is a write off really but I still get the championship butterflies about it and personally I think it's a good thing to see new faces on board.

1
Chris O Connell
Na Seamroga
2
Ryan Mc Cambridge
Ruairi Og
3
Neal Mc Auley
Mac Uilin
4
Aaron Graffin
Ruairi Og
5
Simon Mc Crory
Naomh Eoin
6
Conor Mc Kinley
Cú Chullain
7
John Dillon
Fanaithe An Gleanna
8
Neil Mc Manus
Ruairi Og
9
Michael Bradley
Naomh Eoin
10
Michael Dudley
Naomh Eoin
11
Paul Shiels
Cú Chullain
12
Eoghan Campbell
Ruairi Og
13
Ciaran Clarke
Mac Uilin
14
Dessie Mc Clean
Gortnamona
15
Conor Johnson
Naomh Eoin
16
Eoin Gillan
Ruairi Og
17
Tomas O Ciarain
Naomh Gall
18
Eoin Mc Alonan
Mac Uilin
19
Ruairi Diamond
Naomh Eanna
20
Conor Carson
Ruairi Og
21
Tomas McCann
Ciceaim Creagan
22
Cormac Ross
Naomh Eanna
23
Deaglan Murphy
Uí Dhonnabháin Rosa
24
Mathew Donnelly
Mac Uilin
25
Daniel Mc Kernan
Padraig Sairseil
26
Odhran Mc Fadden
Na Seamroga

:-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on May 01, 2015, 12:01:09 PM
Heres hoping the new additions make a positive impact on the team and result this weekend.

Watched that John Dillon hurl last year in a championship match against Glenariff, he was unreal. Good solid hurler under high balls and he has a bit of speed on the grass also. Hopefully he bodes well.

In relation to the other additions.

Dessie McClean was a fantastic under-age hurler, but i havent seen him play in a few years so I cant say much about him in recent times.

The other young fellas added dont stand out much imo, but they're still young and can improve.

Murphy has speed alright but Ive watched him and he's very one sided, you can get away with this at underage level.But at senior and inter county hell be sussed out very easily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 01, 2015, 01:27:24 PM
Kerry senior football panel is made up of players from all club levels. Seems to be the way to do it. If you're good enough you play. To try and remain positive.... KR seems to employ this approach quite well. Without the big three we've players from Gort, Sarsfields, Armoy, Creggan, Cloughmills, St. Galls, Carey, Ballycastle, St. John's, Rossa, St. Endas...have I left any out. Is there an Oisins player on the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2015, 01:57:59 PM
Well, good luck  to the new lads getting a run out. Get out there and Hurl!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
The Antrim minor captain Eoin Conlon from St Endas was the best minor I seen last year. He looked like a he could be a top senior county hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 01, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
The Antrim minor captain Eoin Conlon from St Endas was the best minor I seen last year. He looked like a he could be a top senior county hurler

History says don't be in a rush to say that about any player still a minor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
History says don't be in a rush to say that about any player still a minor.

I could tell Neil McManus, Shorty, Aaron Graffin, Neil McAuley, Cormac Donnelly had the potential to be top players more than capable of handling themselves at intercounty level. Maybe you've a different history than me. Young Conlon looked every bit as good as any of those lads....hence why I mentioned his name.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 01, 2015, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2015, 01:57:59 PM
Well, good luck  to the new lads getting a run out. Get out there and Hurl!
Good man JC, now ur talkin.  Good luck to the lads on Sunday, lets hope they give an exceptional performance and a good account of themselves. I'm not sure about a few of the selections though, but hey, try anything at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2015, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 01, 2015, 03:15:37 PM
Why the frowny face for MR2?

That Full Back line is very strong.
Would like to see McManus in CHB.
Wouldn't fancy marking any of those three inside forwards either.

It's experimental but why wouldn't we experiment and try new and hungry players?  It's not as if we are going to f**k things up any more than they already are.

Experimental team against a team that has hurled well over the past 2/3 years with good experience. I'm certainly not knocking the players, have watched/played against a right few of them and they are good hurlers, so just wondering why they are only starting now in a game that is Championship,  better to experiment in league challenge games no? Just a thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on May 01, 2015, 05:48:54 PM
I agree with the kerry format of using players from all clubs. Until last week sarsfields and creggan were the only two division two clubs with county players. 2 from each of them. Surely teams like glenariffe, carey, cloughmills, St pauls etc have some quality to offer the set up and from an earlier stage other than a few weeks before championship where they maybe aren't physically or mentally in the same condition as some of the boys who have been on the road since November
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 01, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 01, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
The Antrim minor captain Eoin Conlon from St Endas was the best minor I seen last year. He looked like a he could be a top senior county hurler

History says don't be in a rush to say that about any player still a minor.



Don't worry, you haven't seen the last of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 01, 2015, 05:38:18 PM
In an ideal world, yes. But the team that was used in League got beat in most games (including v Laois). Add that to the exodus of PJ and a few others and you're hands are nearly dealt for you.

Its not like its worst set of players more than a sense of have they gelled together as a team rather than a set of good individual hurlers... I suppose KR is dammed if he doesn't dammed if he does!! Anyways good luck for the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2015, 09:35:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.

There is a thread on the main GAA discussion section
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.

Interesting you don't have anything to say on the matter you find interesting that there's been no mention of  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2015, 02:57:43 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 01, 2015, 09:35:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.
and there's me thinking it's

There is a thread on the main GAA discussion section
and there's me thinking it's pertaining to Antrim hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2015, 03:00:48 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 01, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.

Interesting you don't have anything to say on the matter you find interesting that there's been no mention of  :)
it wouldn't matter what I said.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2015, 07:36:10 AM
Fair point  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 02, 2015, 11:28:02 AM
Casement SiE?
We'll read about it in history books.

Optimistic for the Laois game but MR2's points are valid.
It's been a while since I slept in a caravan but heading up to the Mariners this evening!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 02, 2015, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 01, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
No mention of the current casement debacle on here. Interesting.
Sure, totally indicative of the great unwashed Carol McK-(SF), typical of the Shinners and the Church suppressing the people of West Belfast.  When will our people in West Belfast catch on to all these hypocrites? The whole bloody lot of them need shafted, do we not have enough to contend with, i.e. CB, UC, SF and the Church?  But sure, safety of patrons doesn't matter!  Like Jim Wells (DUP), the great unwashed (CMcK - SF) should resign also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
Bonamargy, will the match go ahead up there today? Please say yes, I've been looking forward to it all week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 03, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
There's plenty of water lying in fields round Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
Heavy pitch Laois big team also who would this favour??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
Heavy pitch Laois big team also who would this favour??

Yeah, favours Laois. Think KR openly said his new recruits were to help the team on dry (therefore quick) pitches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 03, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 09:24:06 AM
Bonamargy, will the match go ahead up there today? Please say yes, I've been looking forward to it all week.

The game is definitely on! Was serious rain here for the last 36 hours. Has been dry now from 11am today and no more rain forecast until approx 6pm. Pitch won't be firm and bouncy so no gurning lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 02:14:57 PM
Lol... If every club offered their facilities like you boys we'd be alright !!! Great stuff, game on!!! Some amount of rain alright!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
Same again at Ballycastle... Couple of forwards shy of a good team. Laois have had quick puckout after quick puckout. We've had.... One. McManus goal was a beaut!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 03, 2015, 04:25:52 PM
H/t Antrim 2-08 Laois 2-13. Antrim had a good start and Laois levelled and haven't looked back. Some slick hurling from them in fairness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 03, 2015, 04:46:24 PM
4-14 to 2-19 with 20 gone in 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 04:48:02 PM
Brilliant. Be great if we could do this. Come on!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 04:58:51 PM
Crap. Late laois goal. Three in it to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: laoislad on May 03, 2015, 05:04:44 PM
Ah jaysis that was a roller coaster listening to it on the radio.
Well done Antrim. Devastating for Laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on May 03, 2015, 05:04:54 PM
Antrim goal penalty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
Briiliant... Kevin ryan out ;D

Fair play to them for lifting themselves up after that league campaign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 03, 2015, 05:17:40 PM
5-17 to 3-22 penalty in the blow and 2 behind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 03, 2015, 05:23:04 PM
Good win, showed character to get the job done. Fair play, I've been a critic for the simple reason I believed we are better than what we had showed. Today was a small step in the right direction. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 03, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
Great result for Antrim from a good performance. Our shooting needs to improve, the wide count from us was considerable. Laois took most of their scoring opportunities. The referee was firmly Laois' 16th man for 71 and a half minutes and I nearly fainted when he gave us the penalty at the end lol. It was a blatant penalty all the same, but that hadnt stopped him making some bizarre decisions earlier. One of our defenders got a yellow card for a brilliant hook, he overruled the two umpires to award a point they had both given wide and the list of decisions went on and on.

Makes the win all the sweeter and lifted the mood amongst the hurling fans in the county going forward. Well done Kevin Ryan and the boys!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 05:56:53 PM
well done to KR and those players they should be very proud
had to play the ref as well, can someone  tell me how a player can take ten steps and fall into the goal mouth with the ball still in his hand get a goal. some of the decisions where baffling and made it all the better
biggest let down today was laois having more fans than us
time for some people to stop moaning and start supporting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 03, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Never saw that coming!
Excitement kept the cold at bay!
Well done Clarkie and the rest - the casement but enjoyed themselves!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 03, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Never saw that coming!
Excitement kept the cold at bay!
Well done Clarkie and the rest - the casement but enjoyed themselves!

clarkie man of the match, looks like hes come of age
i think he should be hitting all our frees now
bradley impressed as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
That was incredible. Loads of big performances. For me N. McCauley was motm. I'm not Neil McManus's biggest fan but after his display today I'm converted. They couldn't handle him when he went to ff and his goal was incredible. Why was Shorty playing around the half back line? ......you know a ref has had a stinker when both sets of players surround him after the game....absolute stinker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
That was incredible. Loads of big performances. For me N. McCauley was motm. I'm not Neil McManus's biggest fan but after his display today I'm converted. They couldn't handle him when he went to ff and his goal was incredible. Why was Shorty playing around the half back line? ......you know a ref has had a stinker when both sets of players surround him after the game....absolute stinker.

forgot to mention Mc auley  he was fantastic. KR had players lined completely different from league and they all worked
shorty was getting through alot or work. so mcuh so they tried hyland on him to curb his influence but had to move him of him again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
That was incredible. Loads of big performances. For me N. McCauley was motm. I'm not Neil McManus's biggest fan but after his display today I'm converted. They couldn't handle him when he went to ff and his goal was incredible. Why was Shorty playing around the half back line? ......you know a ref has had a stinker when both sets of players surround him after the game....absolute stinker.

forgot to mention Mc auley  he was fantastic. KR had players lined completely different from league and they all worked
shorty was getting through alot or work. so mcuh so they tried hyland on him to curb his influence but had to move him of him again

Shortly was getting a lot of ball and a lot of space .....Happy days. Totally bemused as to why Cheddar took Willie Hyland off. Him and Cha were loading it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
That was incredible. Loads of big performances. For me N. McCauley was motm. I'm not Neil McManus's biggest fan but after his display today I'm converted. They couldn't handle him when he went to ff and his goal was incredible. Why was Shorty playing around the half back line? ......you know a ref has had a stinker when both sets of players surround him after the game....absolute stinker.

forgot to mention Mc auley  he was fantastic. KR had players lined completely different from league and they all worked
shorty was getting through alot or work. so mcuh so they tried hyland on him to curb his influence but had to move him of him again

Shortly was getting a lot of ball and a lot of space .....Happy days. Totally bemused as to why Cheddar took Willie Hyland off. Him and Cha were loading it.

Hyland asked cheddar why he was took off. I thought maybe he had blew up, was it he sub that came on for him that scored there last goal. if it was then fair enough
i thought some of our defenders where giving way to much  space at times. just not working hard enough when they don't have possession
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:31:32 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:25:07 PM
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Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:16:23 PM
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That was incredible. Loads of big performances. For me N. McCauley was motm. I'm not Neil McManus's biggest fan but after his display today I'm converted. They couldn't handle him when he went to ff and his goal was incredible. Why was Shorty playing around the half back line? ......you know a ref has had a stinker when both sets of players surround him after the game....absolute stinker.

forgot to mention Mc auley  he was fantastic. KR had players lined completely different from league and they all worked
shorty was getting through alot or work. so mcuh so they tried hyland on him to curb his influence but had to move him of him again

Shortly was getting a lot of ball and a lot of space .....Happy days. Totally bemused as to why Cheddar took Willie Hyland off. Him and Cha were loading it.

Hyland asked cheddar why he was took off. I thought maybe he had blew up, was it he sub that came on for him that scored there last goal. if it was then fair enough
i thought some of our defenders where giving way to much  space at times. just not working hard enough when they don't have possession

Their late goal was a fluke though. Just looped into the net. Yeah think we can improve alright. Woody, Aaron and Ryan all had quiet enough games by their own high standards.
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Post by: hurlingstick on May 03, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...

Dillon was the pick of them.
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Post by: getevennotcross on May 03, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
Fantastic win for the lads today, just what the doctor ordered.  I personally could not make due to work commitments, but delighted all the same.  I hear young Clarke and Johnston gave a superb account of themselves.  5 Goals, well that's saying something.

For play to Ryan and the boys, hope at last and an important win under the belt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...

it was a positive day for antrim SIE doesn't do positive
now he has to start his KR smear campaign all over again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 03, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...
Just finishing off a massage at Winker's place. He said he'll be on later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Thewildcat on May 03, 2015, 06:48:11 PM
if Antrim top this group lads will they be playing offaly in tullamore, offaly went up to Ballycastle in last years championship and league game this year or will it be in another ground.
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Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
Yeah one step at a time though. We don't always do well against westmeath and carlow!

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Post by: theskull1 on May 03, 2015, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 03, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Never saw that coming!
Excitement kept the cold at bay!
Well done Clarkie and the rest - the casement but enjoyed themselves!

Cold? Is this proof you watched the game on twitter btdtgtt ?

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Post by: getevennotcross on May 03, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
Yeah one step at a time though. We don't always do well against westmeath and carlow!
Exactly, lets cherish the change of form and the win and not be getting ahead of ourselves.  As you say we can never take Westmeath or Carlow lightly.  Truly delighted for the lads today, sure to give them a great psychological lift.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 03, 2015, 08:21:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 03, 2015, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 03, 2015, 05:58:26 PM
Never saw that coming!
Excitement kept the cold at bay!
Well done Clarkie and the rest - the casement but enjoyed themselves!

Cold? Is this proof you watched the game on twitter btdtgtt ?

No I had said I was caravaning it this weekend - thanks for your concern.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 03, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
to hell with one step at a time.  We could beat the faithful county, done it before.  Gutted I missed it, been to see them most of the times this year and they have been pretty shite.  Tell are the penalties in hurling now 1 on 1?????????????
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2015, 08:36:32 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2015, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...

it was a positive day for antrim SIE doesn't do positive
now he has to start his KR smear campaign all over again
I think you need to move on nah. Well done Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 04, 2015, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
How did the newer guys do? Dillon, mc(c)lean, dudley?

Really happy to see that win.

Sie are you there or do you only post when we lose...
really unfair Tommy. I don't do ostrich like most on here.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2015, 10:57:34 AM
Just watched league sunday there in the hope we were on it. We got about one sentence out of Lyster >:(
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Post by: hurlingstick on May 04, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 04, 2015, 10:57:34 AM
Just watched league sunday there in the hope we were on it. We got about one sentence out of Lyster >:(

The media lost out on this one. That was a great advert for hurling. Laois very vocal on the final penalty, very aggrieved. They should view the game again from our perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 04, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
I've learned something from this board this weekend. After one of the best games I've watched in years, I was expecting a buzz of excitement on this forum. The quality of hurling on display was top drawer - really top drawer. When things were not so good after the Kerry game people had lots and lots to say, their silence after yesterday speaks volumes. Well done to KR and the whole panel, to win off the back of such adversity says a lot about your character. To play with such style makes it all the sweeter. One very happy Antrim fan.
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Post by: Sleeping giant on May 04, 2015, 11:14:08 PM
Am another very happy man, after congratulating them HS there's not much more to do.  I've said I've been critical before but was honestly deep down for the simple reason I expected more from a group of very talented young men.  Am delighted for them. It's the sort of thing I love being proved wrong on.  And long may it continue.  Nice buzz. The two away games will be as tough as we don't travel well.  Hopefully with high conference we top the group and give offaly a right rattle.  As 2nd place plays Wexford. A tougher task.  Again.  Well done lads. 
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 04, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 04, 2015, 11:14:08 PM
Am another very happy man, after congratulating them HS there's not much more to do.  I've said I've been critical before but was honestly deep down for the simple reason I expected more from a group of very talented young men.  Am delighted for them. It's the sort of thing I love being proved wrong on.  And long may it continue.  Nice buzz. The two away games will be as tough as we don't travel well.  Hopefully with high conference we top the group and give offaly a right rattle.  As 2nd place plays Wexford. A tougher task.  Again.  Well done lads.

Fair play to you  SG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 04, 2015, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 03, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 03, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
Yeah one step at a time though. We don't always do well against westmeath and carlow!
Exactly, lets cherish the change of form and the win and not be getting ahead of ourselves.  As you say we can never take Westmeath or Carlow lightly.  Truly delighted for the lads today, sure to give them a great psychological lift.
Is that not positive enough for you hurlingstick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 05, 2015, 12:16:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 04, 2015, 11:49:06 PM
"Well let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet" was Saffron Sam2 quoting Pulp Fiction when Antrim footballers beat Donegal in 2009. The same applies to the good win we had at the weekend.

I'm beginning to think that Antrim hurling suffers from bi-polar syndrome. Kerry beat us and it's the end of the world, we steal a win at home against Laois and we're nearly looking an open top bus.

It was a good win and hopefully something we can build on. The players and management deserve credit for lifting themselves after a disappointing year. Still a lot to do though.
lol very good. Don't think anyone is calling for an open top bus. Good result, well done. Move on
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 05, 2015, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 04, 2015, 11:49:06 PM
"Well let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet" was Saffron Sam2 quoting Pulp Fiction when Antrim footballers beat Donegal in 2009. The same applies to the good win we had at the weekend.

I'm beginning to think that Antrim hurling suffers from bi-polar syndrome. Kerry beat us and it's the end of the world, we steal a win at home against Laois and we're nearly looking an open top bus.

It was a good win and hopefully something we can build on. The players and management deserve credit for lifting themselves after a disappointing year. Still a lot to do though.

Still got a mouth like sower HS
No sucking going on here
SG has been venting his views on here since the Kerry match on the current set-up
But unlike some of his fellow club posters he seems genuinely happy like the rest of us about Sunday's result
Just given him his dues for showing his good will regardless of his greivenses before hand
We all know this result doesn't make everything rosy but it's nice for a possitive result and that doesn't gaurentee an upward trend

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Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 05, 2015, 12:52:13 AM
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Post by: hurlingstick on May 05, 2015, 09:11:43 AM
Quote from: hardstation firmlink=topic=1347.msg1464373#msg1464373 date=1430779746
"Well let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet" was Saffron Sam2 quoting Pulp Fiction when Antrim footballers beat Donegal in 2009. The same applies to the good win we had at the weekend.

I'm beginning to think that Antrim hurling suffers from bi-polar syndrome. Kerry beat us and it's the end of the world, we steal a win at home against Laois and we're nearly looking an open top bus.

It was a good win and hopefully something we can build on. The players and management deserve credit for lifting themselves after a disappointing year. Still a lot to do though.

Very tasteless post. Poor form. To finish, Antrim thoroughly deserved the win. They bombarded Laois in the closing stages of the second half. Putting 32 points on the board against good opposition is hardly ' stealing' a win.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2015, 09:13:17 AM
its a long time since ive seen a decent antrim support at a match and being so vocal. Brilliant finish to the match with the goal. Clarke was superb throughout the match, long may it continue.

I will be honest i thought we played poorly at times, esp in the first half where Laois took total control for a long period of the half. But well done to Antrim for sticking at it and not giving up.

Dont understand shorty in wing half, he didnt get into the game enough for me. Hes better being used as a forward

I havent seen our players celebrate like that at the end of a game for quite some time, makes a change from the usual depression we have been used to.

One small step at a time will do us
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Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2015, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2015, 09:13:17 AM
its a long time since ive seen a decent antrim support at a match and being so vocal. Brilliant finish to the match with the goal. Clarke was superb throughout the match, long may it continue.

I will be honest i thought we played poorly at times, esp in the first half where Laois took total control for a long period of the half. But well done to Antrim for sticking at it and not giving up.

Dont understand shorty in wing half, he didnt get into the game enough for me. Hes better being used as a forward

I havent seen our players celebrate like that at the end of a game for quite some time, makes a change from the usual depression we have been used to.

One small step at a time will do us

Fair enough sum up DR, just curious as to what you thought the poor aspects of Antrim's play were at that stage when Laois we in control?

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 05, 2015, 10:53:38 AM
Agree with alot of that Frostie, I think think shear huff and puff got Antrim over the line in the end. Certainly the introduction of Carson at half time meant the ball wasn't coming back out as quickly from the fwds as it was in the first half. In fairness to laois the last 15-20 mins of the first half they were excellent. Everything was done to instinct,dipping catching and striking was superb and always had a man in space. They hit their dangermen everytime without even looking , very well drilled. Although that urgency from them seem to trail off in the 2nd half , but fairplay to Antrim who kept chipping away and then hit that wee purple patch in  the 2nd half with those two (cracking) goals which put them back into contention.
The ref overruled the umpire and gave a point which was clearly about a metre wide, Had Laois won by a point  :o
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Post by: theskull1 on May 05, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Was going to write pretty much what frostbit has written there.

I didn't think we were the 'better' team. I think after the way the League panned out, we wanted it more in the second half especially and having N McM as the target man for high balls, that 'strategy' paid off. But in terms of nuanced team play and the basic skills, Laois had a fair bit more than us and I'd say 4 times out of 5 they'd beat us.

Really enjoyed the game and the effort put in by the players, but we've still got a bit of a journey to go to on to be a consistent threat.  N McA's performance would grace any county team in Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 05, 2015, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 05, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Was going to write pretty much what frostbit has written there.

I didn't think we were the 'better' team. I think after the way the League panned out, we wanted it more in the second half especially and having N McM as the target man for high balls, that 'strategy' paid off. But in terms of nuanced team play and the basic skills, Laois had a fair bit more than us and I'd say 4 times out of 5 they'd beat us.

Really enjoyed the game and the effort put in by the players, but we've still got a bit of a journey to go to on to be a consistent threat.  N McA's performance would grace any county team in Ireland.

I certainly came away from the game thinking he was the stand out player in a saffron Jersey who seemed to have that wee bit extra.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2015, 11:11:55 AM
Have to agree with Skull and Frostbits posts as well.

Whilst the ref was extremely poor to us we continued to argue with his every call and he keep moving it forward all the time making it easier for them to score. Need to get our discipline sorted there for def. Its not easy to control when your getting bad calls but its still something to work on.

Just googled mulingar to see how far it is - 3hr drive for sunday it is then!!
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Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2015, 11:11:55 AM
Have to agree with Skull and Frostbits posts as well.

Whilst the ref was extremely poor to us we continued to argue with his every call and he keep moving it forward all the time making it easier for them to score. Need to get our discipline sorted there for def. Its not easy to control when your getting bad calls but its still something to work on.

Just googled mulingar to see how far it is - 3hr drive for sunday it is then!!

That is fair enough lads, just wondered what the opinions were on the game. I would agree with Skull that it was probably heart and determination more so than skill level that won the day. Which in a squad that was questioned in some corners about their commitment pleased me as a fan.

Stand outs were as mentioned, NMcA took a while to get to grips with the Laois midfield who started like a train, but even in terms of winning primary possession was excellent.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2015, 03:16:20 PM
Latest post from the Antrim webpage about the make up of the league next eyar

As a result of several Guestbook questions below is the 2015 /2016 League structures.

The structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.
The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:
Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 - 8 Teams
Division 3 - Remaining teams
To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.
At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.
Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).
Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).
Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)
The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015
Football

It is two promoted and two relegated in Div. 1 & 2. In Division 3 this year after the Grading Round the teams are split into two sections. Points gained during the Grading Round do carry and the venues are reversed in the second round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 05, 2015, 11:28:23 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 05, 2015, 03:32:20 PM
Thought that was clear enough.

Would have to fancy Clooney Gaels and St Galls to go down.  The Down teams have got off to a flyer and none of the bigger clubs will go down for certain.  Rossa have had the edge over St Galls already and that result could prove costly.
Would fancy Glenariffe, Ballygalget, Cloughmills, Sarsfields, Gort na Mona and Creggan to make it into the 1B alongside them next year.

I think Cushendun, St Paul's and Armoy will struggle.  Carey so far haven't competed with those around their level yet only beating Cushendun so far.  Think it might become a three way battle between GNM, Creggan and Carey with the first two having competed much better to date.

Long way to go of course.

Early days yes but so far would agree with that - a lot can depend on who stays in championships or goes out early.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 07, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
A post on the Laois hurling thread claims 'we (Antrim) got the rub of the green on Sunday'. Anyone who was there would entirely dispute that. Between their really soft penalty, their fluke of a last goal and the copious amounts of refereeing decisions that went against us, we got anything but  'the rub of the green'. I've watched a sequence of photos for the game winning penalty and it was like a UFC move. 100% correct decision....we deserved to win on Sunday.
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Post by: Bonamargy on May 07, 2015, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 07, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
A post on the Laois hurling thread claims 'we (Antrim) got the rub of the green on Sunday'. Anyone who was there would entirely dispute that. Between their really soft penalty, their fluke of a last goal and the copious amounts of refereeing decisions that went against us, we got anything but  'the rub of the green'. I've watched a sequence of photos for the game winning penalty and it was like a UFC move. 100% correct decision....we deserved to win on Sunday.

100% agree. The penalty we got was as blatant a penalty as you are going to see. For the 71 and a half minutes before that the referee gave us absolutely nothing. The spectators around me were disgusted with the refs decisions throughout the game.
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Post by: getevennotcross on May 07, 2015, 02:01:39 PM
"Rub of the green" or not, more importantly we got a magnificent result and that's all that matters.  As I said, I was not at the game due to work commitments, but I did hear the referee gave us absolutely nothing which is no surprise.  I'm not into berating referees they have a difficult enough job to do but even handedness is an essential component.

Roll on Sunday, another good win against Westmeath would do nicely for the lads.  I hope they can push on from the good win against Laois, another win under their belt will certainly restore some confidence, especially among the young fellas.  By all accounts young Clarke and Johnston showed very well,. I was a little concerned about McClean though, a bit light and not physically capable in my reckoning (fair dues to the lad anyway).  Neil McAuley  I'm informed had a blinder which is the true mark of the man.  A very under rated individual in my opinion and would grace any county team in the country.  (well lets just say, he would be one of my first picks any day).
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Post by: theskull1 on May 07, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Think we're arguing over semantics here

I think we're all agreed that Laois we're a bit more joined up in their team play throughout the game, but pure heart and hurt got us over the line. At the minute I'd believe that Laois have the game to beat us 4 out of 5 games. We need to develop but can be proud of the effort the boys put in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 07, 2015, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 07, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Think we're arguing over semantics here

I think we're all agreed that Laois we're a bit more joined up in their team play throughout the game, but pure heart and hurt got us over the line. At the minute I'd believe that Laois have the game to beat us 4 out of 5 games. We need to develop but can be proud of the effort the boys put in.

Last four meetings.... Won 2 apiece. Antrim's 2 wins came in championship hurling, Laois's wins in league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 07, 2015, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 07, 2015, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 07, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
Think we're arguing over semantics here

I think we're all agreed that Laois we're a bit more joined up in their team play throughout the game, but pure heart and hurt got us over the line. At the minute I'd believe that Laois have the game to beat us 4 out of 5 games. We need to develop but can be proud of the effort the boys put in.

Last four meetings.... Won 2 apiece. Antrim's 2 wins came in championship hurling, Laois's wins in league.
A very pertinent and telling observation Hurlingstick! We would be an equal to Laois if not slightly better imho.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on May 07, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
Similar team to last week. Mcfadden named in half forward. Obviously position changes will take place. McLean starting again?? Will that happen? Wasn't up to it last week and isn't up to the level imo
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Post by: brendanbelfast on May 08, 2015, 11:48:20 PM
where did you see the team?Cant see it on county website?
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Post by: antrimgeal1989 on May 09, 2015, 11:17:02 AM
It's on the official antrim facebook page
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Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2015, 01:03:55 PM
There's an official antrim facebook page??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
All being well, we will be playing championship hurling (Leinster quarter final) on June 7th. Win tomorrow and I would like to think it will be against Offaly. I'm not disrespecting Offaly but I would rather be drawn against them than Wexford. Good luck Antrim against Westmeath. If you show the heart and talent of last week then we should win. No complacency!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 09, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
Good luck to the boys tomorrow. Contrary to the opinion of some obsessed posters on here, I wish nothing but the best for ye. Unfortunately I won't be there tomorrow, but I'll try to tune in from Playa  de Las Americas.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:46:57 PM
Disgusting scenes at the NA minor final tonight. Grown men punching lumps out of each other in the crowd. So many children scared at witnessing that. Hang your heads in shame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on May 09, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
How'd the darragh cup game go?
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Post by: north aontroim gael on May 09, 2015, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:46:57 PM
Disgusting scenes at the NA minor final tonight. Grown men punching lumps out of each other in the crowd. So many children scared at witnessing that. Hang your heads in Shane.

Agree really bad thing to see at a juvenile game especially.

Dunloy sneaked it by a point after scoring 1-1 in last couple of minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Ballycastle blew it spectacularly. They should have won easily. The Loughiel player who was doing umpire (I know who he is and the next time I meet him I'll be sharing what I'm about to say) you are a disgrace. Gave a wide from a Dunloy point which split the post from the 21 right under my nose. Then tried to give a square ball against Dunloy (which caused a Dunloy coach to APPROACH him). The ref overruled and correctly so.......TT Butler is a star of the future.
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Post by: theboss11 on May 09, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
That result would be a shock surely! That we team of Ballycastles meant to be full of stars.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 09, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
That result would be a shock surely! That we team of Ballycastles meant to be full of stars.


In the first 10 minutes Ballycastle played with all the flair and Dunloy were struggling with the basics of the game.BC looked like they'd win easily. Lots of great players. But in the 2nd half Dunloy just wore them down with graft and determination. They'd about 4 or 5 good players themselves.

If you look at all the Darragh cup results, then on paper it looked a close game. You are right though, with the players Ballycastle have I'm guessing they should have won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 09, 2015, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 09, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
That result would be a shock surely! That we team of Ballycastles meant to be full of stars.


In the first 10 minutes Ballycastle played with all the flair and Dunloy were struggling with the basics of the game.BC looked like they'd win easily. Lots of great players. But in the 2nd half Dunloy just wore them down with graft and determination. They'd about 4 or 5 good players themselves.

If you look at all the Darragh cup results, then on paper it looked a close game. You are right though, with the players Ballycastle have I'm guessing they should have won.

Our boys were certainly the better team and looked great for the first twenty minutes. We should have been home and hosed but left the door open by hitting wide after wide.  Congratulations to Dunloy who hung in there and got the goal and point at the death deep into injury time to get the victory. One that got away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 12:02:26 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 09, 2015, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 09, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
That result would be a shock surely! That we team of Ballycastles meant to be full of stars.


In the first 10 minutes Ballycastle played with all the flair and Dunloy were struggling with the basics of the game.BC looked like they'd win easily. Lots of great players. But in the 2nd half Dunloy just wore them down with graft and determination. They'd about 4 or 5 good players themselves.

If you look at all the Darragh cup results, then on paper it looked a close game. You are right though, with the players Ballycastle have I'm guessing they should have won.

Our boys were certainly the better team and looked great for the first twenty minutes. We should have been home and hosed but left the door open by hitting wide after wide.  Congratulations to Dunloy who hung in there and got the goal and point at the death deep into injury time to get the victory. One that got away.

i cant agree that ballycastle where the better team or they would have won
they certainly where for the first twenty minutes before our boys woke up and shipped the heavy tackles better after that it was tit for tat
Ballycastle scored 2 points(one from play) in the 2nd half

Hurlingstick
disgraceful scene indeed but lets get some more detail
the only two punches threw was by a ballycastle supporter on a dunloy man. at no time was a punch threw from anyone from dunloy
the only other physical exchanges was dunloy and ballycastle supporters restraining the aggressor
The fan in question should be ashamed of himself in bringing soccer brawl antics to a hurling match
you might have heard different versions but i was in close enough proximity to view the event as it happened
all this happened immediately after the winning free went over the bar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 10, 2015, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Ballycastle blew it spectacularly. They should have won easily. The Loughiel player who was doing umpire (I know who he is and the next time I meet him I'll be sharing what I'm about to say) you are a disgrace. Gave a wide from a Dunloy point which split the post from the 21 right under my nose. Then tried to give a square ball against Dunloy (which caused a Dunloy coach to APPROACH him). The ref overruled and correctly so.......TT Butler is a star of the future.

I think you need to check your facts. The umpire in question confirmed that it WAS a goal.

I spoke to Malachy after the game and he confirmed as much and said that he apologised to the umpire for his rant. I'm sure if you speak to him he'll confirm the same. It was the Ballycastle players calling for square ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 10, 2015, 12:31:27 AM
As far as the row goes I was near the scoreboard so was watching through a crowd of people and couldn't pick out who exactly was involved. I'd appreciate a DM if anyone knows.

I personally thought Ballycastle were the stronger side but just couldn't get the scores on the board. They missed some scoreable frees and dropped about 6-7 shots short in the second half not to mention quite a few wides.

Two good teams though & congrats to Dunloy for toughing it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
How any organisation can legislate for the odd idiot is not an easy task. Lets no be putting shame on the rest. Under great duress restraint was shown and the incident didn't descend into madness because of the calm heads. We should be immensely proud of that.

Delighted with our win tonight. Our boys wouldn't be happy with their performance but they kept at it and no different to Antrim last week got their rewards at the death.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 01:19:25 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 10, 2015, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Ballycastle blew it spectacularly. They should have won easily. The Loughiel player who was doing umpire (I know who he is and the next time I meet him I'll be sharing what I'm about to say) you are a disgrace. Gave a wide from a Dunloy point which split the post from the 21 right under my nose. Then tried to give a square ball against Dunloy (which caused a Dunloy coach to APPROACH him). The ref overruled and correctly so.......TT Butler is a star of the future.

I think you need to check your facts. The umpire in question confirmed that it WAS a goal.

I spoke to Malachy after the game and he confirmed as much and said that he apologised to the umpire for his rant. I'm sure if you speak to him he'll confirm the same. It was the Ballycastle players calling for square ball.

Oops I should apologise too!! I read it exactly like Malachy. Looked like he called square ball and told the ref such. He gave wide for a blatant point just previous. Glad to be corrected though!!.... It should also be pointed out the Castle keeper made 4 outstanding saves, so maybe Dunloy were good value for the win. Who is the Ballycastle keeper?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 06:25:59 AM
Both keepers had really solid performances but yes I think we shaded it on goal chances and the McQuillain keeper produced 2 or 3 top notch saves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Ballycastle blew it spectacularly. They should have won easily. The Loughiel player who was doing umpire (I know who he is and the next time I meet him I'll be sharing what I'm about to say) you are a disgrace. Gave a wide from a Dunloy point which split the post from the 21 right under my nose. Then tried to give a square ball against Dunloy (which caused a Dunloy coach to APPROACH him). The ref overruled and correctly so.......TT Butler is a star of the future.
that'd be right, it's loughgiel's fault.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
How any organisation can legislate for the odd idiot is not an easy task. Lets no be putting shame on the rest. Under great duress restraint was shown and the incident didn't descend into madness because of the calm heads. We should be immensely proud of that.

Delighted with our win tonight. Our boys wouldn't be happy with their performance but they kept at it and no different to Antrim last week got their rewards at the death.

Skull, the fact there were no linesman or umpires for a big game (attendance was impressive) is a serious issue. I imagine reffing a hurling match is very difficult at the best of times. This needs addressing by NA. Think the tensions caused by the officiating were part of the problem last night. This is not a dig at the ref, who tried his best under difficult circumstances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 10, 2015, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 01:19:25 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 10, 2015, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 09, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Ballycastle blew it spectacularly. They should have won easily. The Loughiel player who was doing umpire (I know who he is and the next time I meet him I'll be sharing what I'm about to say) you are a disgrace. Gave a wide from a Dunloy point which split the post from the 21 right under my nose. Then tried to give a square ball against Dunloy (which caused a Dunloy coach to APPROACH him). The ref overruled and correctly so.......TT Butler is a star of the future.

I think you need to check your facts. The umpire in question confirmed that it WAS a goal.

I spoke to Malachy after the game and he confirmed as much and said that he apologised to the umpire for his rant. I'm sure if you speak to him he'll confirm the same. It was the Ballycastle players calling for square ball.

Oops I should apologise too!! I read it exactly like Malachy. Looked like he called square ball and told the ref such. He gave wide for a blatant point just previous. Glad to be corrected though!!.... It should also be pointed out the Castle keeper made 4 outstanding saves, so maybe Dunloy were good value for the win. Who is the Ballycastle keeper?

Benny Connor I'd say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match later?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match later?

Midlandsradio 103
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match later?

Midlandsradio 103
typically unbiased commentary as usual with this shower....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
http://www.midlandsradio.fm/custom/api/radio.player.php?temp=true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match later?

Midlandsradio 103
typically unbiased commentary as usual with this shower....
I suppose LGs getting the blame again  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Any links to listen to the Antrim match later?

Midlandsradio 103
typically unbiased commentary as usual with this shower....
I suppose LGs getting the blame again  ;D
hardly. We'd need a few more on for that.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
Graffin is a huge loss. Hope he is ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 03:59:45 PM
We insist on giving teams a big lead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
6 up!!! We are under pressure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 04:02:18 PM
10 v 2 now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 04:03:45 PM
13 v 2 ...............unbelievable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 04:09:25 PM
WTF is going on down there
11 points down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
I cant listen anymore - 14 - 2 .......switching it off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
Hero to zero.... loughgiels fault so it is ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 10, 2015, 04:16:04 PM
1-13 to 0-2 HT  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 04:23:01 PM
Stay positive. Sure that swallow might fly by again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 04:39:42 PM
By the lord jesus. What the f**k!!!!!!  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 04:41:47 PM
Someone please say there's a gale force wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 04:45:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 04:41:47 PM
Someone please say there's a gale force wind

No wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 10, 2015, 04:50:27 PM
Clubantromas twitter feed have stopped their score by score update saying there's no point!?  Whose fault this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 04:52:39 PM
"Unwatchable so no more score by score updates" was the last tweet from Antrim Twitter feed.    Doesn't paint a pretty picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 04:59:06 PM
1-20 to 0-6
5mins to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 10, 2015, 05:04:29 PM
1-21 to 0-7 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2015, 04:14:39 PM
Hero to zero.... loughgiels fault so it is ::)
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 10, 2015, 05:13:09 PM
Is that us out if Laois beat Westmeath? Our score difference is abysmal now. Players need to take a long hard look at themselves depressing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2015, 05:26:33 PM
Remember - Nobody is allowed to criticise the Antrim players or managers.
They are all putting in a great effort. How dare anyone criticise because getting stuffed by Westmeath is more than anyone else on here has ever done. And so it goes on.

I could be wrong but if Carlow beat us we are relegated unless we get another play-off with the Christy ring champions?

Who got injured? Hopefully nothing serious regardless of the result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 10, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Just out from Cusack Park as an interested neutral.

the Antrim lads looked unfit, some of them overweight, poor hurling, poor striking and no speed about anything they did.

Westmeath beat them pulling up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 10, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Just out from Cusack Park as an interested neutral.

the Antrim lads looked unfit, some of them overweight, poor hurling, poor striking and no speed about anything they did.

Westmeath beat them pulling up.
i can't answer you the way I want. I'd get too much abuse. All I can say is that everything you say has been the case for years. You are 100% correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
That's a serious stuffing and you wouldn't find anyone trying to defend it
SIE for the next manager then we can wheel out watson and look forward to stuffing kilkenny and tipp
Change the record and take your told you so smugness where they haven't heard it before

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
Bad day at the office today, no doubt about it. According to club aontroma Twitter feed if we do get beat next week we are in the Christy Ring Cup next year.

Aaron Graffin was the player injured. He was took to hospital with a suspected dislocated knee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 10, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Spare a thought for Aaron Graffin. Gives so much to the game and probably lying in a Westmeath hospital right now. Those players will be gutted on the bus home. Long miserable journey while we are all in our nice warm homes. If we beat Carlow next week and Westmeath beat Laois we'll still make a Leinster quarter final. I'm assuming if Laois win it will come down to points difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 07:44:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
That's a serious stuffing and you wouldn't find anyone trying to defend it
SIE for the next manager then we can wheel out watson and look forward to stuffing kilkenny and tipp
Change the record and take your told you so smugness where they haven't heard it before
all joking aside lad, you've got a problem. Leave me out of your whining.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
Bad day at the office today, no doubt about it. According to club aontroma Twitter feed if we do get beat next week we are in the Christy Ring Cup next year.

Aaron Graffin was the player injured. He was took to hospital with a suspected dislocated knee

Thanks. Great player and a massive loss for club and county. Best wishes to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
Good luck to young Graffin. I hope for a speedy recovery. One of our all time best backs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Moving off topic. What would be the best way off getting to Boucher Playing Fields from Castlecourt? Never been before!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2015, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Moving off topic. What would be the best way off getting to Boucher Playing Fields from Castlecourt? Never been before!!!

Probably up the lisburn road and down tates??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 08:30:53 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 10, 2015, 08:05:52 PM
SIE, you weren't to be heard after last week's win but low and behold, you're back at it today.
are you blind? I suggest you go back and look. You're posting from the north Antrim hound school of internet logic. Like I said to him, move on, leave me out of your meanderings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 10, 2015, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 10, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Just out from Cusack Park as an interested neutral.

the Antrim lads looked unfit, some of them overweight, poor hurling, poor striking and no speed about anything they did.

Westmeath beat them pulling up.

Losing Graffin seemed to really rattle us, he's a pivotal player after all. Work rate by a few you could normally depend on dropped . Confidence gradually ebbing away we lost our shape and any prospect of putting it up to them. West meath were decent and didn't let up, won the lions share of dirty ball and moved the ball faster, our decision making was inexplicably slow at times. No way we are that bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2015, 08:46:42 PM
Leave castlecourt going up the falls road.
Take a left on to the westlink.
Come off at stockmans lane exit.
Left at the roundabout and left again on to Boucher road.
The playing fields are on your left after homebase and facing Charles hurst.
Parking available on site.
Only basic portacabin changing facilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 10, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
Bad day at the office today, no doubt about it. According to club aontroma Twitter feed if we do get beat next week we are in the Christy Ring Cup next year.

Aaron Graffin was the player injured. He was took to hospital with a suspected dislocated knee
maybe the Christy Ring is our level.  Jesus it would be so easy to go of on one now. But after praising the lads last week, am not gonna start and give out.  Simply couldn't be bothered.  For me the players that's there we should be winning games against the westmeaths and Carlows of the world.  Something just isn't right men,  plain and simple.     Speedy recovery to Arron.  Great player. Wish we had more like him!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
"Something just isn't right men"

Never a truer sentence posted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
When Kerry beat us we had a wave of "this is our level".
I cannot accept that a drubbing by Westmeath is our level.
Title: Craobh
Post by: drici on May 10, 2015, 09:43:43 PM
Antrim still have a chance of playing Kerry again this year.

1st Plays Offaly
2nd Plays Wexford
3rd Plays Winner of Christy Ring with the Winner of that being in Leinster Championship and the Loser being in the Christy Ring next year
4th Plays in/Relegated to Christy Ring next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 09:48:10 PM
Christy Ring it will be!!!! Maybe it will have the desired effect that rossa were looking for.  Drop down.  Win something.  Back up and build on it.  Lord god am f**king going gray over this whole antrim hurling set up!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
Something not right for sure
I would say Ryan can't wait to get Carlow game over and get the hell out of dodge
I just can't take in the score and how bad we played
Maybe   Graffins injury shock them up by all accounts the lad is badly hurt
Hope he is not suffering to much
More thinking of him than the result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
I won't go to far down this road again, IMO it's not all the managers fault.  But if he is to leave.  Id be asking someone within out own county.(Not Sambo)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 10, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
I'm going to post this one thing. Take from it what you will. We (loughgiel) played the Derry county team in a challenge match on Saturday. We beat them 3-15 to 1-14.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 10, 2015, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
I won't go to far down this road again, IMO it's not all the managers fault.  But if he is to leave.  Id be asking someone within out own county.(Not Sambo)
KR is managing county hurling on a number of fronts, a template similar to that adopted by the most successful counties in the game. Against the tide of opinion that we know what's best for us, we'll just do our own thing and everything will be alright. Remember we've been here before in Dunloy heyday and it was no magic bullet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 10, 2015, 10:25:09 PM
Not long in from Mullingar.It pished continuously from 2pm but to be honest this result was no surprise.

Antrim insisted on using the same tactic against Laois of poc outs down the left towards Neal McAuley.

Westmeath copped onto this & Neal wasnt as effective as he was last week.

Antrim did not seem to have a Plan B. Aaron Graffin's injury was an unsettling factor (its a dislocated knee. It looked an awful lot worse & hopefully he is on the mend).

Westmeath pulled Antrim all over the park with Eoin Price given licence to roam at will without being picked up. They were slick in their hurling, something which had Michael Ryan's influence written all over it.

14 points down at half time and if I had any sense I would have left then. The heads dropped soon after the restart with Westmeath picking up where they left off.

This has to be the worst Antrim performance in years. Its not the players - they play the way they have been coached.

Whilst I have great respect for Kevin Ryan I dont think he is the man to bring Antrim forward. In his 3rd year we have dropped to Div 2A and are on the verge of being relegated to the Christy Ring. It would be no surprise if Carlow did a number on Antrim in Dr Cullen Park in 2 weeks.

This defeat plus the Kerry result will have a serious knock on effect in that interest in the county team will dwindle as if it isnt bad enough already.

Ive been on the road many times following Antrim home & away but today takes the biscuit & I dont think I'll be back for a while. At least I wont have to worry about a long trip to Carlow.

Unfortunately I think we got the wrong Ryan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 10, 2015, 10:57:02 PM

"This has to be the worst Antrim performance in years. Its not the players - they play the way they have been coached. "
No its the way a player has been coached by his club in his formative years, he reverts to type when his confidence is shot, an incredibly difficult problem for any coach to break down. So where does the blame sit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 11:05:41 PM
So it's the clubs fault that antrim were beat today and have been stinking this year??   Speaking just from my own club.  Players change and can change there style of play fairly simple.  It's doing what your asked to do is the key.  From what I've seen and heard.  Far to much gym work and not enough hurling is a problem with in the antrim set up.  One of many problems.   :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 10, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
My point is, they are playing to a system to which they are being coached by the county management eg. the short handpassing.

Its not working & the management do not seem to have an alternative.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on May 10, 2015, 11:27:08 PM
This was appalling. No other word for it. Second to every single ball, from full back line to full forward line. Off the pace, slow, looked unfit, no imagination when in possession, truly awful. Poor on the pitch and poor on the line, can't dress it up.

Now, Westmeath were a lot better than I though they would be, a helluva lot better. But my God we were dire.

It gives me zero pleasure to say it will be a while before I hit the road to support this team again.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 11:28:12 PM
All club teams won't play the same way, so it's not as if every player is gonna walk in and no the way a manager wants to play.  But isn't that what training is for.  Isn't that what he's paid for?    It's a simple game.  Do the simple things fast, Jesus Christ.  Hand pass hand pass hand pass, when you've one of the fastest forwards in Ulster busting his balls to get out infront of his man.  Let the fecking thing into him, if that doesn't work,  Try the long ball or the shooting from distance.   Surely we are better than this.  Please God someone tell me we are better than this!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 10, 2015, 11:37:20 PM
No it certainly won't work if the player in possession holds on too long or looks to break a tackle because he can't see what he should do, or the player receiving is standing flat footed, are you suggesting that's being coached. The problem with us is a disproportionate amount of people think they know better, some of those possibly close to the set up. How will we ever achieve the buy in required to ever succeed. There's no magic formula for success, every manager will have his own system so the detail isn't critical. What he must get is everyone behind him. All the same the cancerous negativity that afflicts this county will even be the undoing of the dream team waiting in the wings
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2015, 11:45:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 10, 2015, 11:05:41 PM
So it's the clubs fault that antrim were beat today and have been stinking this year??   Speaking just from my own club.  Players change and can change there style of play fairly simple.  It's doing what your asked to do is the key.  From what I've seen and heard.  Far to much gym work and not enough hurling is a problem with in the antrim set up.  One of many problems.   :-\

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 10, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
My point is, they are playing to a system to which they are being coached by the county management eg. the short handpassing.

Its not working & the management do not seem to have an alternative.

Plenty of teams move the ball out of pressure with a short handpass. Why shouldn't Antrim be attempting to do it? The fact its not working isn't down to the system being wrong. We are where we are and have zero reason to think we "should" be better than the likes of Kerry or Westmeath. Our structures and our levels of interest are weaker than they should be and it looks as if we are living hand to mouth year on year rather than having a system where both administrative structures and player commitment are a given. Its perfectly easy for me to not be surprised that Westmeath are stronger than us if their structures are better.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 11, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
Antrim's hurling today was laboured. There was no quick ball into the forwards. Why play Dessie McClean at full forward & deprive him of the ball. If the ball was pinged in low towards him he could have used his pace to engineer a score. He was taken off after 10 minutes. Conor Carson came on & I envisaged a repeat of the Laois match where high ball was pumped into the full forward line. This didnt even happen. As Brendan Belfast stated there were far too many mistakes made by Antrim today.

We as a hurling county have certainly regressed under KR. There was no idea what to do from the sideline as Westmeath ran riot.

Im all for the buy in to Antrim hurling but far too long in the tooth to know things are not right with the current set up. Ive been to all the championship games played under KR & there has not been much improvement over 3 years.

This goes back to when the county board decided to appoint Jerry Wallace over Dinny Cahill.

Dinny knew how to get championship performances out of his teams. Tipp, Wexford, Laois, Dublin spring to mind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 11, 2015, 12:14:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 10, 2015, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 10, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
My point is, they are playing to a system to which they are being coached by the county management eg. the short handpassing.

Its not working & the management do not seem to have an alternative.

Plenty of teams move the ball out of pressure with a short handpass. Why shouldn't Antrim be attempting to do it? The fact its not working isn't down to the system being wrong. We are where we are and have zero reason to think we "should" be better than the likes of Kerry or Westmeath. Our structures and our levels of interest are weaker than they should be and it looks as if we are living hand to mouth year on year rather than having a system where both administrative structures and player commitment are a given. Its perfectly easy for me to not be surprised that Westmeath are stronger than us if their structures are better.




Skull agree with you. The short handpass can be and is effective but why on earth can we not seem to perfect this?  We have no God given right to think we are better than Kerry, Westmeath, Laois etc. Heard that Westmeath minors beat Wexford on Saturday & Westmeath are slowly but surely reasserting themselves on the hurling stage again. Dublin were lucky to get out of Cusack Park last year with a one point victory so today's result would seem to be no great surprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2015, 12:40:55 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 11, 2015, 12:01:26 AM
We as a hurling county have certainly regressed under KR. There was no idea what to do from the sideline as Westmeath ran riot.

Im all for the buy in to Antrim hurling but far too long in the tooth to know things are not right with the current set up. Ive been to all the championship games played under KR & there has not been much improvement over 3 years.

I do think change has to come now. History has taught me though that a change in manager will not be the stand alone long term solution. If anyone thinks that, they're  deluded IMO. We have bigger problems to solve and with the work force out there I don't think we'll ever get to where plenty of people think we should be on a consistent year in year out basis. The odd surprise here and there... sure, but I don't expect a change in the mean level where we've been for 25 years. The blind negativity of those who blindly EXPECT us to be at a higher level is energy sapping when the structures and support doesn't allow it to happen.

On a slightly related point .... If there was a poll where people in every county were asked if they feel positive or negative when they think about their county board? I think in Antrim (rightly or wrongly) would fare poorly. Where there's disunity, there's failure and disappointment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: neilthemac on May 11, 2015, 08:10:45 AM
The structures in Westmeath are nothing to shout about.


The senor and minor setups have improved hugely in the last two years as they have excellent management in place. The minors have a good crop of players with one or two standout players. The senior squad have had a few quality players coming through each year for the past few years who have been developed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 11, 2015, 08:47:19 AM
I think the whole mess is summed up by the selection of Shorty at corner back!! Probably our best and most consistent scoring forward over the last couple of years stuck into corner back. I despair!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 11, 2015, 08:50:11 AM
I think Antrim hurling people have a higher opinion of their County's standing in the game.

What have Antrim ever achieved at minor / U21 / Senior that leads people to believe we SHOULD be beating Laois, Westmeath, Kerry etc?

We simply don't have enough highly skilled, enthusiastic coaches willing to put in the hard thankless hours with County teams at underage.

There is also a general ill feeling towards our county team from certain quarters. I know of plenty of people (including from my club)  who are happy to see Antrim get beat now so they can slag certain individuals and have 'the told you so' attitude. Some of these people I remember seeing in Croke Park when things were going well for the County.  I work in Tyrone from time to time and the people have a serious love for their County & follow every grade, there simply isn't the same interest in Antrim no matter what people on here like to tell themselves.

Antrim will never be a force again in my lifetime unless their is a serious attitude shift. I don't think there will be though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 11, 2015, 09:32:15 AM
nearly went to the match yday, had a lift sorted then plans changed. thank god i didnt waste my time and go.

really is a massive step back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 09:38:45 AM
Personally I don't have any mis-conceptions about our true level.
I think it should be division2 / 1B.
I say we're competing with the Laois / Carlow / Westmeath and on a good day Offaly.
No issue with the fact that I won't be going to Casement to watch the top teams any more (or Ballycastle!)

But the fact is that a defeat to Kerry and a drubbing  by Westmeath are shocking results!
Even for our new reduced level of standing!

I think we should be better than this!
And I think there's the players in Antrim to produce muhc better than this!

We can set aside who is to blame for the best team not being on the pitch - but that does not change that we have a problem here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2015, 09:50:50 AM
Last year we beat every one of these teams in championship hurling. We also beat Offaly in the league. How can we go so spectacularly backwards within a year?  We have a really poor pool of players which are a product of poor structures.  Go and watch as many club games this year as you can. You will notice how limited we are. Last year's league and championship is a prime example. The top 5 teams were so mediocre, we couldn't even win Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 11, 2015, 08:10:45 AM
The structures in Westmeath are nothing to shout about.


The senor and minor setups have improved hugely in the last two years as they have excellent management in place. The minors have a good crop of players with one or two standout players. The senior squad have had a few quality players coming through each year for the past few years who have been developed.

We'd regularly play friendlies against Westmeath club teams and they're as handy as any in Antrim, just don't get the same profile due to the greater difficulties getting out of Leinster as opposed to Antrim club teams easier runs out of Ulster. That's no disrespect to Loughgeil or the previous Dunloy outfit who in my mind were exceptional club teams of their era and would have made an impact on a national stage no matter what province they were in.
You'd be a fool to think club hurling in Westmeath isn't a pretty decent standard and they've always produced very good hurlers from the Kilcoynes to Darren McCormack and to now.

I still think club hurling is King in Antrim due to this 'easier' route to national glory.
The days of Antrim, Down or Derry teams getting a run out in Croke Park in an AI semi-final based solely on winning an Ulster title are now gone and that has skewed the focus onto the clubs.

Why would players bust their balls all winter, playing in NHL games, getting castigated, right, left and centre, play in low profile Leinster round robin games watched by a handful of supporters when they can save themselves for a club championship campaign in August/September and if successful in Antrim, more or less be sure of a run out in a high profile AI semi-final in February?


As for Kerry, they've turned themselves into Tipp lite, with three or four Tipp lads lining out for them as well as the ex Clare lad Kelly. None of the Tipp lads live in Kerry, so they're ripping the hole out of the rule allowing Grade 2 counties to avail of the services of top tier players, not making their county squads, but are meant to be living within that county!!

If Antrim do get into another relegation/promotion battle with Kerry I hope to f**k Antrim win it, and win it well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 11, 2015, 08:10:45 AM
The structures in Westmeath are nothing to shout about.


The senor and minor setups have improved hugely in the last two years as they have excellent management in place. The minors have a good crop of players with one or two standout players. The senior squad have had a few quality players coming through each year for the past few years who have been developed.

We'd regularly play friendlies against Westmeath club teams and they're as handy as any in Antrim, just don't get the same profile due to the greater difficulties getting out of Leinster as opposed to Antrim club teams easier runs out of Ulster. That's no disrespect to Loughgeil or the previous Dunloy outfit who in my mind were exceptional club teams of their era and would have made an impact on a national stage no matter what province they were in.
You'd be a fool to think club hurling in Westmeath isn't a pretty decent standard and they've always produced very good hurlers from the Kilcoynes to Darren McCormack and to now.

I still think club hurling is King in Antrim due to this 'easier' route to national glory.
The days of Antrim, Down or Derry teams getting a run out in Croke Park in an AI semi-final based solely on winning an Ulster title are now gone and that has skewed the focus onto the clubs.

Why would players bust their balls all winter, playing in NHL games, getting castigated, right, left and centre, play in low profile Leinster round robin games watched by a handful of supporters when they can save themselves for a club championship campaign in August/September and if successful in Antrim, more or less be sure of a run out in a high profile AI semi-final in February?


As for Kerry, they've turned themselves into Tipp lite, with three or four Tipp lads lining out for them as well as the ex Clare lad Kelly. None of the Tipp lads live in Kerry, so they're ripping the hole out of the rule allowing Grade 2 counties to avail of the services of top tier players, not making their county squads, but are meant to be living within that county!!

If Antrim do get into another relegation/promotion battle with Kerry I hope to f**k Antrim win it, and win it well.

But yet it's held to ransom for the county scene!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 09:52:32 AM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 11, 2015, 08:10:45 AM
The structures in Westmeath are nothing to shout about.


The senor and minor setups have improved hugely in the last two years as they have excellent management in place. The minors have a good crop of players with one or two standout players. The senior squad have had a few quality players coming through each year for the past few years who have been developed.

We'd regularly play friendlies against Westmeath club teams and they're as handy as any in Antrim, just don't get the same profile due to the greater difficulties getting out of Leinster as opposed to Antrim club teams easier runs out of Ulster. That's no disrespect to Loughgeil or the previous Dunloy outfit who in my mind were exceptional club teams of their era and would have made an impact on a national stage no matter what province they were in.
You'd be a fool to think club hurling in Westmeath isn't a pretty decent standard and they've always produced very good hurlers from the Kilcoynes to Darren McCormack and to now.

I still think club hurling is King in Antrim due to this 'easier' route to national glory.
The days of Antrim, Down or Derry teams getting a run out in Croke Park in an AI semi-final based solely on winning an Ulster title are now gone and that has skewed the focus onto the clubs.

Why would players bust their balls all winter, playing in NHL games, getting castigated, right, left and centre, play in low profile Leinster round robin games watched by a handful of supporters when they can save themselves for a club championship campaign in August/September and if successful in Antrim, more or less be sure of a run out in a high profile AI semi-final in February?


As for Kerry, they've turned themselves into Tipp lite, with three or four Tipp lads lining out for them as well as the ex Clare lad Kelly. None of the Tipp lads live in Kerry, so they're ripping the hole out of the rule allowing Grade 2 counties to avail of the services of top tier players, not making their county squads, but are meant to be living within that county!!

If Antrim do get into another relegation/promotion battle with Kerry I hope to f**k Antrim win it, and win it well.

But yet it's held to ransom for the county scene!
By the CB and the County manager, yes you're right and its a downward spiral which ultimately weakens both unless clubs, their players and County manager, along with the CB putting in place proper structures to facilitate a balanced approach to hurling at all levels, then a county with limited playing numbers and clubs like Antrim are stuffed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 11:28:09 AM
So the facts are:

1. We have a poor/limited selection of players to choose from
2. We have a  pool of players who have been on the roller coaster of failure and humiliating defeats for a number of years now
3. We have an inept management/coaching team devoid of imagination and counter active game plans
4. The negativity which festers throughout our county also spills over and lives within the players mindset, they feel it also
5. We are currently and have been playing 3rd rate hurling, we do not deserve or have any rite to be playing at levels above our current status
6. We do not have the financial or physical resources that other counties enjoy and take for granted
7. We historically have been living hand to mouth for decades and minimal support from County Executive, Supporters, Club Aontroma etc.  (By the way, where have all the Club Aontroma people gone??)
8. We have no strategic plan or even a basic plan to develop hurling in our county or the appropriate personnel to deliver such a plan
9. This time next year, the year after and the year after that, we will still be here talking,debating, discussing, finger pointing about the same things
10. The perpetual cycle of negativity, feeling sorry for ourselves, frustration, accusatory and finger pointing ways is set to continue regardless, unless the right committed and adept personnel step up to the plate, i.e. players and management
11. We will  be playing in Div. 2 A, and we are not in a position of confidence to expect to win it and automatically go back up to Div. 1B
12. I wont be travelling to Cusack Park, Mullingar again as I did yesterday, to witness another humiliating and resounding defeat by a team that we ordinarily think we have the rite to beat.  This is the 2nd time in recent years we have been humiliated by Westmeath in championship.


I think I will cancel my direct debit with Club Aontroma, honestly cant see any return like many others on my small investment.

So, do we now go in search of a new messiah?  Get Dinny back I say!  Under Dinny we experienced the only true semblance of progress and demonstrated an ability to punch and perform above our expected weight (Dublin and Cork spring to mind).

Disappointing and Pitiful days!  Sadly our misfortune and demise is set to continue, it wont fix itself!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 11, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
a league game this wednesday night and then nothing again for another 2 weeks on a wednesday night and then another 2 week break till the next one.

Our players aren't getting any game till worth looking at and it cant be good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 11, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
a league game this wednesday night and then nothing again for another 2 weeks on a wednesday night and then another 2 week break till the next one.

Our players aren't getting any game till worth looking at and it cant be good

Very true.

Can't be good for the clubs - which KR & Executive & Croke Park don't care about.

Can't be good for our county - which KR & Excectuive won;t acknowledge & Croke Park still don't care.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 12:31:14 PM
The sooner everyone realises that KR, County Exec. Ulster Council, Croke Park, Aoghan O'Farrell, Sinn Fein, the Sports Minister don't give a toss.  Its not viable to develop Antrim/Ulster Hurling, its not lucrative and in many respects the problem of hurling in Ulster is just a gravy train for some.  The only people who can fix hurling in Ulster and Antrim in particular, is the clubs, players and supporters.  The aforementioned bodies/individuals are only a vehicle which may assist in a licentious, but uncommitted way.

Hurling people and hurling people alone need to strand up an be counted and take some measure of responsibility.  Is that ever going to happen, especially in Antrim?  I fear not, we are so insular and fragmented.  The problem with Hurling is Hurling people!  There is no collective approach to addressing our hurling ills, we go about doing our own little thing and as a result of our own individual/insular self gratification, we think we are making an impact, sadly that is not the case.  But on we go, the individual club's attitude is "I'm all right Jack". 

The club focus is insular, win Antrim, win Ulster and maybe an All Ireland along the way.  In many ways that is understandable.  Beyond that, Antrim as a county  is full of broken and fragmented clubs who in themselves have great difficulty surviving and keeping hurling alive and vibrant.  Hurling clubs in some respects are like a mirror reflection of our political arena, individual brands of Republicanism, Loyalism, Independents i.e.  Sinn Fein, CIRA, INLA, IRSP, WP, Oglaith Na Eirrean, DUP, UUP, TUV, PUP, Alliance, SDLP, so many disparate groups with no federated theme or objective. And regrettably, it is set to continue.

Antrim needs a cohesive and joined up approach by its constituent clubs, NA, SA & SW, in a serious effort to addressing our hurling woes!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 11, 2015, 12:16:20 PM
If that is true that after a big break for clubs regarding games (two weeks I think), they will get one game this Wednesday and then not another one for another fortnight then that, in terms of organising and facilitating clubs to play hurling is pretty shit.  Why is that?  Is that deliberate so that club games aren't being called off during the Leinster Round Robin games? Pretty crappy if you are a club player or a club coach trying to improve standards overall.

That said, we have a serious amount of dual club and the football end of things also need to be facilitated.  A lad was telling me that there is around 4 games to be played between end of September and October this year.  Weeks in April and May without games and as many as you want in October.  The GAA really need to sort out their season.  Club players are being shat upon.

In antrim, any attempt to facilitate the dual clubs evapoarted long ago. The County Executive openly admit this - and to be fair it's hard to see that they can given how the county season is so over-bearing.
You are right - the County season is far too long and it's a crippling issue in nearly every county as regards the majority of gaels in clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 11, 2015, 01:03:58 PM
Between now and the end of June div1 clubs have 6 fixtures, plus in NA we have potenitially another 3 Feis cup games. That's at least 7 games! Nothing wrong with the fixtures so far!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 11, 2015, 01:03:58 PM
Between now and the end of June div1 clubs have 6 fixtures, plus in NA we have potenitially another 3 Feis cup games. That's at least 7 games! Nothing wrong with the fixtures so far!

The problem is that not necessarily the number of fixtures:
- frequency / infrequency
- time of year they are played (club championship in winter)
- availability of "county" players
- dual clubs and players
It is an issue around the county.
I don't know of anyone who would suggest GAA fixture making is adequate - not even the fixture makers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 11, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
If Dinny is our potential saviour, how come all not well west of the Bann?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 11, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
If Dinny is our potential saviour, how come all not well west of the Bann?
Well Dinny is no the Helmsman, would that in effect be the cause for disquiet??  A case of too many chiefs, possibly!  A bit disingenuous to comment on the Derry present status,  sure are we not in the same division as them next year and have we beaten them yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 11:28:09 AM
So the facts are:

1. We have a poor/limited selection of players to choose from
2. We have a  pool of players who have been on the roller coaster of failure and humiliating defeats for a number of years now
3. We have an inept management/coaching team devoid of imagination and counter active game plans
4. The negativity which festers throughout our county also spills over and lives within the players mindset, they feel it also
5. We are currently and have been playing 3rd rate hurling, we do not deserve or have any rite to be playing at levels above our current status
6. We do not have the financial or physical resources that other counties enjoy and take for granted
7. We historically have been living hand to mouth for decades and minimal support from County Executive, Supporters, Club Aontroma etc.  (By the way, where have all the Club Aontroma people gone??)
8. We have no strategic plan or even a basic plan to develop hurling in our county or the appropriate personnel to deliver such a plan
9. This time next year, the year after and the year after that, we will still be here talking,debating, discussing, finger pointing about the same things
10. The perpetual cycle of negativity, feeling sorry for ourselves, frustration, accusatory and finger pointing ways is set to continue regardless, unless the right committed and adept personnel step up to the plate, i.e. players and management
11. We will  be playing in Div. 2 A, and we are not in a position of confidence to expect to win it and automatically go back up to Div. 1B
12. I wont be travelling to Cusack Park, Mullingar again as I did yesterday, to witness another humiliating and resounding defeat by a team that we ordinarily think we have the rite to beat.  This is the 2nd time in recent years we have been humiliated by Westmeath in championship.


I think I will cancel my direct debit with Club Aontroma, honestly cant see any return like many others on my small investment.

So, do we now go in search of a new messiah?  Get Dinny back I say!  Under Dinny we experienced the only true semblance of progress and demonstrated an ability to punch and perform above our expected weight (Dublin and Cork spring to mind).

Disappointing and Pitiful days!  Sadly our misfortune and demise is set to continue, it wont fix itself!

Didn't make Mullingar because of a family commitment. It would appear that our heads dropped after the Graffin injury (hope he gets well soon).

We have a most remarkable ability to drop our heads whenever another team gets a run on us. It doesn't happen every time, but it happens enough to be a signature of Antrim hurling. I had hoped last Sunday marked a turning point in that regard, but clearly not. And its not a recent thing. For as long as I have been following Antrim hurling (over 30 years), we have blown up when the pressure comes on. It even happened under Dinny from time to time (I am thinking of a quarter final against Cork the year after we should have beaten Wexford). I would love to have enough knowledge of psychology to understand it.

And we also have a remarkable overestimation of our place in the hurling world, fuelled greatly by some (very good performances) by our club teams from time to time. That said, it is undoubtedly the case that having to come through a relatively weak Ulster club championship stands to our benefit in that regard.

Seriously, what right to we have to think we should always beat Westmeath? In 2012, after Loughgiel had won the club championship, Antrim hurling was on a high and everyone was committed to playing for Antrim, Westmeath beat us 0 14 to 0 12 in the first round of the championship. That year ended with us getting thumped 8 26 to 1 15 by Limerick.

Do you know what I think were the most significant hurling results over the weekend? In the Leinster minor quarter finals, Laois beat Offaly for the 4th  year in a row. Even more significantly, Westmeath beat Wexford. This was a Wexford team that was beaten by a point after extra time by Kilkenny and which won the Leinster league handily this year (beating us 4-21 to 0-10 along the way). The semi finalists in the Leinster minor hurling championship are Kilkenny and Dublin (who you might expect) and Laois and Westmeath (who you certainly would not).

To be honest, changing the senior manager is swapping deckchairs on the Titantic. I guarantee you that, as soon as we change to an Antrim man who "understands" Antrim hurling, there will be calls for an outsider who wont be influenced by the internal politics of the Antrim club scene. What's the definition of madness - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

The reality is that, if we are ever to do anything, it has to start at underage level and by that I mean under 14/15/16. In my view, minor is nearly already too late. Certainly, the ground work has to be done before then. There seems to be work being done at that age but it seems fairly clear that Laois, Westmeath etc are already ahead of us in that regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 11, 2015, 03:21:05 PM
Cloot
That's the best post on our problems since yesterday
One thing still stinging me is we beat laois in ballycastle and for dodgy refing could have beatin them by more
That laois team ran galway to 3 points last year in leinster last year
To go down and get trounced by Westmeath suggest we are not performing week in week out

Radical work is required from minor down but there not enough hands or money

Depressing state of affairs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 03:21:56 PM
Just saw who Westmeath had along their line yesterday, the former Waterford manager in Michael Ryan and former Kilkenny keeper and hotly tipped to take over from Brian Cody, Michael Walsh. There's a fair bit of knowledge right there for you.

The Geographical isolation of Antrim and the other Ulster counties means its really hard to get the right people involved, Antrim have been reasonably lucky to get the likes of Dinny and Kevin Ryan to travel the distances over a good few years, but access to regular high level club games, even if they're friendlies, juvenile tournaments, club and county and general accessibility to the top level counties means you're out of pocket a good bit before you start.

I see North Antrim taking youngsters to James Stephens in Kilkenny, that sort of initiative is to lauded by all those involved, but its only the start and should be a regular event to benchmark their development, but there's a huge cost in all of that!

Would there be such an equivalent in Belfast or SW Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
South west only exists in football and not hurling AFAIK o any south west clubs would fall under north antrim...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 11, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
had this same discussion yday about the underage. I was bemoaning the state of camogie and how whenever the girls get to 16 is too late to do anything about all of the bad habits they have. The poor swing, the inability to catch, positional awareness, anticipation of the ball, lack of core strength, confidence. All of those things if missed in a child are extremely hard to fix at 15, 16, 17 etc.

The hard work must be done at 7, 8, 9 etc and get the kids doing the basics correctly. Everything else falls into place as they grow up.

I rem someone said to me once that if you cant hit a ball on both sides by minor you wouldnt make it any farther. Now seeing a 14 year old not able to hit both sides IMO is a flaw. I make my 10 yr old nephew hit the ball on his bad side all the time to improve it and make him use it without thinking, that in a match it should come natural to hit on both sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 11, 2015, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 11, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
If Dinny is our potential saviour, how come all not well west of the Bann?

Yous were lucky to get out of Owenbeg last year and I dont fancy your chances this year either if you meet us. Derry for Ulster!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 03:21:56 PM
Just saw who Westmeath had along their line yesterday, the former Waterford manager in Michael Ryan and former Kilkenny keeper and hotly tipped to take over from Brian Cody, Michael Walsh. There's a fair bit of knowledge right there for you.

The Geographical isolation of Antrim and the other Ulster counties means its really hard to get the right people involved, Antrim have been reasonably lucky to get the likes of Dinny and Kevin Ryan to travel the distances over a good few years, but access to regular high level club games, even if they're friendlies, juvenile tournaments, club and county and general accessibility to the top level counties means you're out of pocket a good bit before you start.

I see North Antrim taking youngsters to James Stephens in Kilkenny, that sort of initiative is to lauded by all those involved, but its only the start and should be a regular event to benchmark their development, but there's a huge cost in all of that!

Would there be such an equivalent in Belfast or SW Antrim?

Johnny,

North Antrim seems to be getting some structures in place alright. I think there is another trip to Kilkenny at the end of the month.

Going on some of the comments here, Belfast seems to be a bit of a disaster zone generally although Davitts, Brid Og and one or two others seem to be coming through at "very" underage level to stand alongside Rossa etc.  As I have been saying since I first came on this board, if Antrim are ever going to progress, Belfast is the key. Its simply a population thing. In North Antrim, the chances are that a child will be exposed to hurling and at least given an opportunity to play should he (or his parents!) so wish. However, that simply doesn't seem to be the case in Belfast.

Presumably, the answer (as always) appears to be:

1. Money; and

2. Organisation,

neither of which Antrim has in abundance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 11, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 03:21:56 PM
Just saw who Westmeath had along their line yesterday, the former Waterford manager in Michael Ryan and former Kilkenny keeper and hotly tipped to take over from Brian Cody, Michael Walsh. There's a fair bit of knowledge right there for you.

The Geographical isolation of Antrim and the other Ulster counties means its really hard to get the right people involved, Antrim have been reasonably lucky to get the likes of Dinny and Kevin Ryan to travel the distances over a good few years, but access to regular high level club games, even if they're friendlies, juvenile tournaments, club and county and general accessibility to the top level counties means you're out of pocket a good bit before you start.

I see North Antrim taking youngsters to James Stephens in Kilkenny, that sort of initiative is to lauded by all those involved, but its only the start and should be a regular event to benchmark their development, but there's a huge cost in all of that!

Would there be such an equivalent in Belfast or SW Antrim?

Johnny,

North Antrim seems to be getting some structures in place alright. I think there is another trip to Kilkenny at the end of the month.

Going on some of the comments here, Belfast seems to be a bit of a disaster zone generally although Davitts, Brid Og and one or two others seem to be coming through at "very" underage level to stand alongside Rossa etc.  As I have been saying since I first came on this board, if Antrim are ever going to progress, Belfast is the key. Its simply a population thing. In North Antrim, the chances are that a child will be exposed to hurling and at least given an opportunity to play should he (or his parents!) so wish. However, that simply doesn't seem to be the case in Belfast.

Presumably, the answer (as always) appears to be:

1. Money; and

2. Organisation,

neither of which Antrim has in abundance.

Agreed. The game is safe in the glens, but to improve you need bigger numbers to pick from, and the only way to do that is to promote game more in Belfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 11, 2015, 03:47:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
South west only exists in football and not hurling AFAIK o any south west clubs would fall under north antrim...

Tommy,

I'm not entirely sure that's right at underage level. I think I saw somewhere where Creggan played Loch Mor Dal gCais (a new hurling club around Crumlin/Glenavy) in the South West Feile Final recently.

On the other hand, didn't St Enda's move into North Antrim at underage because of lack of games in Belfast?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
I know there's an abbey cup at south west which is senior but I assumed that was just for senior. South west clubs definitely play in north antrim at underage . Whether the clubs are involved in these Kilkenny initiatives I'm not 100% sure but I think they are...

<Edit> Actually there seems to be some difference. There are affiliated clubs and then there are north antrim clubs on the web-site. The south west ones seem to be affiliated whatever the difference is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2015, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 11, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
had this same discussion yday about the underage. I was bemoaning the state of camogie and how whenever the girls get to 16 is too late to do anything about all of the bad habits they have. The poor swing, the inability to catch, positional awareness, anticipation of the ball, lack of core strength, confidence. All of those things if missed in a child are extremely hard to fix at 15, 16, 17 etc.

The hard work must be done at 7, 8, 9 etc and get the kids doing the basics correctly. Everything else falls into place as they grow up.

I rem someone said to me once that if you cant hit a ball on both sides by minor you wouldnt make it any farther. Now seeing a 14 year old not able to hit both sides IMO is a flaw. I make my 10 yr old nephew hit the ball on his bad side all the time to improve it and make him use it without thinking, that in a match it should come natural to hit on both sides.

Its a constant battle telling coaches that the P2 and P4's need to be able to strike properly on the ground (Big C) off both sides before even going near teaching them to lift a ball and strike it in the air.

If they don't master a proper ground stroke off both sides, they don't have the control, nor timing to master the aerial striking consistently and are incline to 'push' the ball rather than strike through it. It's really hard to correct that later on.

Don't start me on the dominant hand on top of the hurl as some of the dung you listen to from parents, some who should know better about wee johnny, "he's ambidextrous, and can draw pictures with both hands", " he can hit the ball better this way!" you really just smile and then hand the youngster a pen to write their initials on the hurl to find out for real what the dominant hand is!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2015, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 11, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
South west only exists in football and not hurling AFAIK o any south west clubs would fall under north antrim...
Not really Tommy. They do exist on their own and have their own fixture arrangements but the SW hurling men work closely with NA
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 11, 2015, 05:44:46 PM
Fair points cloot.
I still believe there should be no such thing as St endas moving to North Antrim - underage must be directed and co-ordinated at all county level. NA is guilty here I'm afraid.

I fully understand their motivation - but don't complain about needing more from Belfast but then operating a closed shop. Several city sides have befallen this in "North Antrim" leagues which should be Antrim leagues. If most of the teams happens to be from the glens so be it.

Also - without any chip on the shoulder - please don't think there's no work going on in Belfast. The depth isn't there but if u look at winning county teams from U12-minor you will see there's no shortage of city winners and recently a clean sweep I believe.

But the money & organisation point hit the nail on the head - Belfast is lacking in organisation and we all lack money!
A real issue is depth by senior - every weekend there's mountain of underage city hurlers at blitzes tournaments and around the clubs. There's just a phenomenal drop out level around minor!

Certainly no argument that changing the senior manager is futile alone in the long term - the county senior team is just the manifestation of our ills. They are the team in the shop window and where the focus lies.

I'm typing this on the phone and while in transit so apologies if it's not and coherent as it should be!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 11, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 11, 2015, 01:03:58 PM
Between now and the end of June div1 clubs have 6 fixtures, plus in NA we have potenitially another 3 Feis cup games. That's at least 7 games! Nothing wrong with the fixtures so far!

i play div 4 and we had a game called off four weeks ago due to watwrlogged pitch. So we have not even played a game yet. My not be the matter in question but its the county boards attiude to this and many things that pisses me off. They can shove their fixtures up their hola
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 12, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 11, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
If Dinny is our potential saviour, how come all not well west of the Bann?
Well Dinny is no the Helmsman, would that in effect be the cause for disquiet??  A case of too many chiefs, possibly!  A bit disingenuous to comment on the Derry present status,  sure are we not in the same division as them next year and have we beaten them yet?
An influential figure none the less and looks after most of the coaching/stickwork. Has he become a poor coach/"assistant manager"? I'd say probably not. Is there a significant cohort of people in Derry just like in Antrim who think they know better than him? Probably yes.
So my point has nothing to do with whether we are better than them or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 12, 2015, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 12, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 11, 2015, 02:47:33 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 11, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
If Dinny is our potential saviour, how come all not well west of the Bann?
Well Dinny is no the Helmsman, would that in effect be the cause for disquiet??  A case of too many chiefs, possibly!  A bit disingenuous to comment on the Derry present status,  sure are we not in the same division as them next year and have we beaten them yet?
An influential figure none the less and looks after most of the coaching/stickwork. Has he become a poor coach/"assistant manager"? I'd say probably not. Is there a significant cohort of people in Derry just like in Antrim who think they know better than him? Probably yes.
So my point has nothing to do with whether we are better than them or not.

Certainly no disquiet about Dinny up here. We love him. Sure we are going to win Ulster. Canny wait hi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 12, 2015, 04:47:46 PM
i would agree with you on that if Derry were setting 2A on fire this year. Nice start away to Kerry but faded off towards the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 12, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 12, 2015, 04:47:46 PM
i would agree with you on that if Derry were setting 2A on fire this year. Nice start away to but faded off towards the end.
However, given our current form, we cannot take anything for granted!  Beating Derry or Down in the future is not a given by any means??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 13, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
totally agree. Our form is poor, but then again there isnt a single team in Ulster whos actually playing well.

Anyway at last we get to see a league game!! We have St Johns at home tonight. Be a tough enough game though i dont know much about them this year. Are they still playing that same style of hurling as last season? The quick puck outs, short passing game or has it changed now Micky's gone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
I'll check out Loughiel v Cushendal...hopefully a decent game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
Anyone know of the Belfast fixtures tonight?
County website not always reliable if there's a late change by the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 10:06:21 AM
Goats, Pols and Rossa at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Thanks - hopefully get one of those split seats that can watch both Rossa & St Pauls.

Cushendall v Loughgeil - will that tell us much or just empty sparring?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2015, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Thanks - hopefully get one of those split seats that can watch both Rossa & St Pauls.

Cushendall v Loughgeil - will that tell us much or just empty sparring?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 12:35:08 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 13, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
Would fancy Ballycastle to beat St Galls handy enough.
Loughgiel to beat Cushendall at home.
Ballycran to beat a young and light Rossa.
Clooney to put it up to Portaferry but the Ports to win
Dunloy and St John's will be very close I think. Maybe even a wee result for the Johnnies.

Cloughmills to beat Gorts by a few to spare.
Glenariffe to give Armoy a beating.
Close game at Shaws Road - maybe a draw.
Ballygalget to do Sarsfields.
Creggan to do Carey in a close game.

Haven't a clue who is handy and who isn't in Division 3 or 4.

Hard to argue with anything there - although I think home advnatage in a mid week game will see Dunloy through with a bit to spare over the Johnnies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 13, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
Would fancy Ballycastle to beat St Galls handy enough.
Loughgiel to beat Cushendall at home.
Ballycran to beat a young and light Rossa.
Clooney to put it up to Portaferry but the Ports to win
Dunloy and St John's will be very close I think. Maybe even a wee result for the Johnnies.

Cloughmills to beat Gorts by a few to spare.
Glenariffe to give Armoy a beating.
Close game at Shaws Road - maybe a draw.
Ballygalget to do Sarsfields.
Creggan to do Carey in a close game.

Haven't a clue who is handy and who isn't in Division 3 or 4.

Agree with all the division one results apart from Dunloy should beat the Johnnies. Agree also Glenariff to comfortably dispose of Armoy, and Ballygalget to beat Sarsfields.

In the other division 2 games, Gortnamona are stronger this year so might nick it at home V Cloughmills. St Paul's to beat Cushendun at Shaws road and Carey really should be beating Creggan at home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: frostbit on May 13, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
Would fancy Ballycastle to beat St Galls handy enough.
Loughgiel to beat Cushendall at home.
Ballycran to beat a young and light Rossa.
Clooney to put it up to Portaferry but the Ports to win
Dunloy and St John's will be very close I think. Maybe even a wee result for the Johnnies.

Cloughmills to beat Gorts by a few to spare.
Glenariffe to give Armoy a beating.
Close game at Shaws Road - maybe a draw.
Ballygalget to do Sarsfields.
Creggan to do Carey in a close game.

Haven't a clue who is handy and who isn't in Division 3 or 4.

Agree with all the division one results apart from Dunloy should beat the Johnnies. Agree also Glenariff to comfortably dispose of Armoy, and Ballygalget to beat Sarsfields.

In the other division 2 games, Gortnamona are stronger this year so might nick it at home V Cloughmills. St Paul's to beat Cushendun at Shaws road and Carey really should be beating Creggan at home.

Actually now you say that! On 2nd thought!

I think the gort game will come down to how well cloughmills travel to the tight pitch - they are the better side I feel.
Agree midweek at home St. Paul's  could turn cushendun over who would have hoped for a fixture like this not to be midweek!
Carey v creggan - toss a coin? Perhaps the McCann element to drive creggan on but again home advantage seems more obvious midweek.

Im off on my way to Shaws road now. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
Dirty stroke from CC tonight. Could have seriously hurt Tony McCloskey - straight red.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 09:29:10 PM
Agree HS. I thought the difference was not just the sloppy goals you conceded but the crans picked off several points from chances which at the other end Rossa were not able to do. Moving mc Clelland in to the forwards showed Rossa lacked enough in attack to grab the game with those players absent. Young Jim Connolly a double take for his father with that running style!
Ballycran moved well off the ball JC and took some nice points - but they didn't inspire me a lot - I'm not sure if they had a strong line up.

On the other side of the fence St. Paul's won but I didn't see enough to comment on the game. Good to see them & gorts winning however. Did you make ballycastle mr2?
DR how did the johnnies go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 13, 2015, 09:34:00 PM
Loughgiel 1-23 Cushendall 1-11. Handy enough. I'd like to think Carson will get at least a three month suspension for what He did this evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 13, 2015, 09:34:00 PM
Loughgiel 1-23 Cushendall 1-11. Handy enough. I'd like to think Carson will get at least a three month suspension for what He did this evening.

He'll not get 3 months
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
Terrible pull from Carson. Deserved red.
Tony McCloskey should have sent red in the first half for a bad pull which the ref didn't have the balls to give a red for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:42:45 PM
Category 3. He'll get 2 games. Mark is a level headed referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:43:46 PM
Tony and Sean McAfee were going at it most of the game until he was switched
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Armoy came from 9 points down at halftime tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Armoy came from 9 points down at halftime tonight.

Straight forward enough for us V Galls tonight, plenty of goal action from Both sides. We need to tighten up at the back! Loughgiel looking good judging by tonight's result? Portaferry keep winning, Ballycran getting the wins as well. Dunloy won as I expected.

Surprised by that Armoy result as the talk was that Glenariffe were going well (I haven't seen either play though)  I see Carey got beat again, this time by 9 at home to Creggan, Creggan going well after promotion and Carey in trouble. Gortnamona beat Cloughmills 2-15 to 2-9 and are doing ritely this year after struggling last year. St Paul's off the mark with a win at home to Cushendun.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 13, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Can anyone post all the full time scores? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Armoy came from 9 points down at halftime tonight.

Straight forward enough for us V Galls tonight, plenty of goal action from Both sides. We need to tighten up at the back! Loughgiel looking good judging by tonight's result? Portaferry keep winning, Ballycran getting the wins as well. Dunloy won as I expected.

Surprised by that Armoy result as the talk was that Glenariffe were going well (I haven't seen either play though)  I see Carey got beat again, this time by 9 at home to Creggan, Creggan going well after promotion and Carey in trouble. Gortnamona beat Cloughmills 2-15 to 2-9 and are doing ritely this year after struggling last year. St Paul's off the mark with a win at home to Cushendun.

Glenariffe had two men sent off in first half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Armoy came from 9 points down at halftime tonight.

Straight forward enough for us V Galls tonight, plenty of goal action from Both sides. We need to tighten up at the back! Loughgiel looking good judging by tonight's result? Portaferry keep winning, Ballycran getting the wins as well. Dunloy won as I expected.

Surprised by that Armoy result as the talk was that Glenariffe were going well (I haven't seen either play though)  I see Carey got beat again, this time by 9 at home to Creggan, Creggan going well after promotion and Carey in trouble. Gortnamona beat Cloughmills 2-15 to 2-9 and are doing ritely this year after struggling last year. St Paul's off the mark with a win at home to Cushendun.

Glenariffe had two men sent off in first half

That would certainly explain that result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 13, 2015, 10:38:01 PM
We beat the paddies handy enough even with big magic getting a straight red early enough in the second half.
We're still not clicking, but still winning, for what its worth.

Crans are functional if unspectacular any time I've seen them recently, not marquee forward is their biggest weakness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 13, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 13, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Can anyone post all the full time scores?
http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures-results/?countyBoardID=1&resultsOnly=Y&daysPrevious=7&reverseDateOrder=Y

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2015, 10:38:01 PM
We beat the paddies handy enough even with big magic getting a straight red early enough in the second half.
We're still not clicking, but still winning, for what its worth.

Crans are functional if unspectacular any time I've seen them recently, not marquee forward is their biggest weakness.

3 & 6 performed well for them. Lightweight up front but Rossa aren't the most physical either and cran had better movement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 13, 2015, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 13, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 13, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Can anyone post all the full time scores?
http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures-results/?countyBoardID=1&resultsOnly=Y&daysPrevious=7&reverseDateOrder=Y
thanks. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 13, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
Big scoring from Ballycastle. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 13, 2015, 11:38:58 PM
We got any of these?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32705561/not-worth-the-hassle---the-sports-stars-too-maverick-to-pick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 13, 2015, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2015, 10:26:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 13, 2015, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 13, 2015, 09:55:46 PM
Armoy came from 9 points down at halftime tonight.

Straight forward enough for us V Galls tonight, plenty of goal action from Both sides. We need to tighten up at the back! Loughgiel looking good judging by tonight's result? Portaferry keep winning, Ballycran getting the wins as well. Dunloy won as I expected.

Surprised by that Armoy result as the talk was that Glenariffe were going well (I haven't seen either play though)  I see Carey got beat again, this time by 9 at home to Creggan, Creggan going well after promotion and Carey in trouble. Gortnamona beat Cloughmills 2-15 to 2-9 and are doing ritely this year after struggling last year. St Paul's off the mark with a win at home to Cushendun.

Glenariffe had two men sent off in first half

Anybody know who got the line for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2015, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 13, 2015, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 13, 2015, 10:38:01 PM
We beat the paddies handy enough even with big magic getting a straight red early enough in the second half.
We're still not clicking, but still winning, for what its worth.

Crans are functional if unspectacular any time I've seen them recently, not marquee forward is their biggest weakness.

3 & 6 performed well for them. Lightweight up front but Rossa aren't the most physical either and cran had better movement.

I thought for sure Rossa would have won that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2015, 07:57:40 AM
Went to our game v the johnies last night. Missed the first 5-10mins with being late home from work and apparently i didnt see one the st johns lads sent off.

first half was very one sided with Dunloy being in total control. Seocnd half was much the same until for some reason we took the foot off the pedal and st johns rattled 5 scores over in a row.

overall it was a poor match, very slow paced infact. Im still not convinced the way we are playing is the right idea but for periods it works well. Sometimes the final ball lets us down into the forwards.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
I was at the Loughgiel v Cushendall game. Easy win for Loughgiel although Cushendall were missing quite a few, very good crowd at it too. Good to see some of our young lads doing well.

Conor Carson pulled a deliberate and cowardly stroke to try and injure, should get a bigger suspension than he will get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 07:57:40 AM
Went to our game v the johnies last night. Missed the first 5-10mins with being late home from work and apparently i didnt see one the st johns lads sent off.

first half was very one sided with Dunloy being in total control. Seocnd half was much the same until for some reason we took the foot off the pedal and st johns rattled 5 scores over in a row.

overall it was a poor match, very slow paced infact. I'm still not convinced the way we are playing is the right idea but for periods it works well. Sometimes the final ball lets us down into the forwards.

St Johns were going through the motions I thought. Up front we weren't anywhere near fluid or purposeful enough. We need to develop confidence to go at teams in the final 3rd. Hard to know if the delivery is the problem. Most of the time I didn't see enough movement to find space so a lot of ball became 50/50, even 40/60. I don't think we found a gap once in the whole game, so movement off the ball at speed is definitely something that our boys need to work on. I'll take the win though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael link=topic=1347.msg1467507#msequally g1467507 date=143158808in 0
I was at the Loughgiel v Cushendall gamefor . Easy win for Loughgiel although Cushendall were missing quite a few, very good crowd at it too. Good to see some of our young lads doing well.

Conor Carson pulled a deliberate and cowardly stroke to try and injure, should get a bigger suspension than he will get.

Dal missing 2 McNaughtons and McManus. Loughiel didn't start 3 equally as influential players in Winker, Joey and Clyde (2 of them came on for about 5 minutes) Winker didn't come on at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2015, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
I was at the Loughgiel v Cushendall game. Easy win for Loughgiel although Cushendall were missing quite a few, very good crowd at it too. Good to see some of our young lads doing well.

Conor Carson pulled a deliberate and cowardly stroke to try and injure, should get a bigger suspension than he will get.

Sadly, more than likely that'll be the case. By the sounds of things (reading on here) Tony McC has benefited in that regard also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 07:57:40 AM
Went to our game v the johnies last night. Missed the first 5-10mins with being late home from work and apparently i didnt see one the st johns lads sent off.

first half was very one sided with Dunloy being in total control. Seocnd half was much the same until for some reason we took the foot off the pedal and st johns rattled 5 scores over in a row.

overall it was a poor match, very slow paced infact. I'm still not convinced the way we are playing is the right idea but for periods it works well. Sometimes the final ball lets us down into the forwards.

St Johns were going through the motions I thought. Up front we weren't anywhere near fluid or purposeful enough. We need to develop confidence to go at teams in the final 3rd. Hard to know if the delivery is the problem. Most of the time I didn't see enough movement to find space so a lot of ball became 50/50, even 40/60. I don't think we found a gap once in the whole game, so movement off the ball at speed is definitely something that our boys need to work on. I'll take the win though.
Thought that at times as well, the communication or game plan they had between themselves seemed to get a bit lost in the second half. The ball was played in and the forward wasnt in that space. Either its a case of the forward wasnt where they were supposed to be or the ball in was the wrong one.

Hard to tell to be honest lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on May 14, 2015, 10:51:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael link=topic=1347.msg1467507#msequally g1467507 date=143158808in 0
I was at the Loughgiel v Cushendall gamefor . Easy win for Loughgiel although Cushendall were missing quite a few, very good crowd at it too. Good to see some of our young lads doing well.

Conor Carson pulled a deliberate and cowardly stroke to try and injure, should get a bigger suspension than he will get.

Dal missing 2 McNaughtons and McManus. Loughiel didn't start 3 equally as influential players in Winker, Joey and Clyde (2 of them came on for about 5 minutes) Winker didn't come on at all.

Carsons slap wasn't pleasant and was a clear sending off  but , Tony handed out a Slap off the ball to Carson in and around the 15min mark that was equally a sending off offence. Which was right infront of  Mark. Yet nothing was done.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 11:14:36 AM
Tony and Sean McAfee had several altercations. Not sure how they weren't booked
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 14, 2015, 11:23:56 AM
Players missing and yet still a bit of agro between the big 2!
Sounds like they were shadow boxing but the tensions still there!
Sets things up nicely for later in the year.

Agree players missing is irrelevant for Rossa - everyone fields under strength or tries players out in the league. The issue is for the weaker teams missing such players means there's no replacements so the effect is greater. But then isn't that the real test of a league season as opposed to championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 14, 2015, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 07:57:40 AM
Went to our game v the johnies last night. Missed the first 5-10mins with being late home from work and apparently i didnt see one the st johns lads sent off.

first half was very one sided with Dunloy being in total control. Seocnd half was much the same until for some reason we took the foot off the pedal and st johns rattled 5 scores over in a row.

overall it was a poor match, very slow paced infact. I'm still not convinced the way we are playing is the right idea but for periods it works well. Sometimes the final ball lets us down into the forwards.

St Johns were going through the motions I thought. Up front we weren't anywhere near fluid or purposeful enough. We need to develop confidence to go at teams in the final 3rd. Hard to know if the delivery is the problem. Most of the time I didn't see enough movement to find space so a lot of ball became 50/50, even 40/60. I don't think we found a gap once in the whole game, so movement off the ball at speed is definitely something that our boys need to work on. I'll take the win though.
Thought that at times as well, the communication or game plan they had between themselves seemed to get a bit lost in the second half. The ball was played in and the forward wasnt in that space. Either its a case of the forward wasnt where they were supposed to be or the ball in was the wrong one.

Hard to tell to be honest lol
Our players where obviously told to hit the corners
Out corner fowards looked to be told leave space in there and move in
But they where not reacting quick enough and defenders quickly copped it and got there same time  or before us
In general our hurling is way to slow in forward thinking and execution
Bit of work to do
Still nigel and Shane Dooey to come back and paudie shivers and s Dowds can only get better
I'll probaly eat these words but come championship  I think if we perform we could matchmost teams if we speed things up
LG seem to be on it and have to be favourites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
yeah it seemed to be very slow in the execution. I dont like those short puck outs, hate them with a passion. I understand retaining possession all the time but not if it puts your defense under pressure.

Good to see Paudie shivers back again. Him and Paudie Conlon did well in the middle of the park. Paudie C will develop into a good strong player if he keeps going.

Nigel is also another good assest to have on the side line when hes fully fit and the more games Sean Dowds get the better.

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters in Antrim at the moment and they aren't playing at full strength yet. The clubs centenary has the bit between their teeth to win the Vol cup maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
yeah it seemed to be very slow in the execution. I dont like those short puck outs, hate them with a passion. I understand retaining possession all the time but not if it puts your defense under pressure.

Good to see Paudie shivers back again. Him and Paudie Conlon did well in the middle of the park. Paudie C will develop into a good strong player if he keeps going.

Nigel is also another good assest to have on the side line when hes fully fit and the more games Sean Dowds get the better.

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters in Antrim at the moment and they aren't playing at full strength yet. The clubs centenary has the bit between their teeth to win the Vol cup maybe?



Can't see them being beat. They're back to the form of 2 years ago. The only difference is they are missing the best player in Antrim..... Benny McCarry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
best player? lol theres a debate and a half!

Bennys a good lad and a damn good hurler. The longer hes in Australia the better! lol

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters so far, although is bringing back players of a certain age a good thing in the long run? be interesting to see how they get on through the season.

I also see PJ is back, again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Yeah, see that. More interestingly I see they have someone who for me is arguably the best Antrim player of the last 30 years or more, on their line.... Beaver McCarry. Absolute legend.

Yeah I know what you're saying with regards to aged players. I'm assuming there is a big drive to win the Volunteer cup for the centenary and therefore they must be asking themselves 'can players like Martin and Joey help them win it this year?' Martin looked quite comfortable last night although he came off. Joey only played a little while 2nd half and even though I'd say his best days are behind him he still has something to offer. What age is Joey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
yeah it seemed to be very slow in the execution. I dont like those short puck outs, hate them with a passion. I understand retaining possession all the time but not if it puts your defense under pressure.

Good to see Paudie shivers back again. Him and Paudie Conlon did well in the middle of the park. Paudie C will develop into a good strong player if he keeps going.

Nigel is also another good assest to have on the side line when hes fully fit and the more games Sean Dowds get the better.

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters in Antrim at the moment and they aren't playing at full strength yet. The clubs centenary has the bit between their teeth to win the Vol cup maybe?



Can't see them being beat. They're back to the form of 2 years ago. The only difference is they are missing the best player in Antrim..... Benny McCarry.

Benny was certainly a valuable asset for our senior team for a few years but I think that is maybe over egging it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
yeah it seemed to be very slow in the execution. I dont like those short puck outs, hate them with a passion. I understand retaining possession all the time but not if it puts your defense under pressure.

Good to see Paudie shivers back again. Him and Paudie Conlon did well in the middle of the park. Paudie C will develop into a good strong player if he keeps going.

Nigel is also another good assest to have on the side line when hes fully fit and the more games Sean Dowds get the better.

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters in Antrim at the moment and they aren't playing at full strength yet. The clubs centenary has the bit between their teeth to win the Vol cup maybe?



Can't see them being beat. They're back to the form of 2 years ago. The only difference is they are missing the best player in Antrim..... Benny McCarry.

Benny was certainly a valuable asset for our senior team for a few years but I think that is maybe over egging it.

It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. County final '13' he was unplayable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 14, 2015, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 14, 2015, 01:39:28 PM
yeah it seemed to be very slow in the execution. I dont like those short puck outs, hate them with a passion. I understand retaining possession all the time but not if it puts your defense under pressure.

Good to see Paudie shivers back again. Him and Paudie Conlon did well in the middle of the park. Paudie C will develop into a good strong player if he keeps going.

Nigel is also another good assest to have on the side line when hes fully fit and the more games Sean Dowds get the better.

Lgiel def look to be the pace setters in Antrim at the moment and they aren't playing at full strength yet. The clubs centenary has the bit between their teeth to win the Vol cup maybe?



Can't see them being beat. They're back to the form of 2 years ago. The only difference is they are missing the best player in Antrim..... Benny McCarry.

Benny was certainly a valuable asset for our senior team for a few years but I think that is maybe over egging it.

It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. County final '13' he was unplayable.

Haha yes you are, please share more!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 14, 2015, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Yeah, see that. More interestingly I see they have someone who for me is arguably the best Antrim player of the last 30 years or more, on their line.... Beaver McCarry. Absolute legend.

Yeah I know what you're saying with regards to aged players. I'm assuming there is a big drive to win the Volunteer cup for the centenary and therefore they must be asking themselves 'can players like Martin and Joey help them win it this year?' Martin looked quite comfortable last night although he came off. Joey only played a little while 2nd half and even though I'd say his best days are behind him he still has something to offer. What age is Joey?
joey is no more than 30 if even that. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 14, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
A club hurler who looks after himself can go deep into his 30's and remain an asset.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2015, 09:55:22 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 14, 2015, 05:33:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 14, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Yeah, see that. More interestingly I see they have someone who for me is arguably the best Antrim player of the last 30 years or more, on their line.... Beaver McCarry. Absolute legend.

Yeah I know what you're saying with regards to aged players. I'm assuming there is a big drive to win the Volunteer cup for the centenary and therefore they must be asking themselves 'can players like Martin and Joey help them win it this year?' Martin looked quite comfortable last night although he came off. Joey only played a little while 2nd half and even though I'd say his best days are behind him he still has something to offer. What age is Joey?
joey is no more than 30 if even that.
He's thirty next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 15, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
he should be able to play on for a fair few more years, if outside commitments don't interfere that is.

i was joking with big swevy there the other week that he will soon be back again at this rate! lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2015, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.

Where would be the fun in that? People feel the need to stir the pot some more.

I see video footage of  the incident in question has even made it onto a Facebook page of a player from another club who feels the needs to comment on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
if I was at the game and seen what happened I would not need to be enquiring, would I?  My primary enquiry was for the welfare of the lad, nothing less!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
if I was at the game and seen what happened I would not need to be enquiring, would I?  My primary enquiry was for the welfare of the lad, nothing less!

I will accept that if you say so, but the original comment IMO was 25% about the health of the LG and 75% whataboutery over an incident you had not personally seen.

I am sure we could go back through the years to different incidents from all clubs if we wanted to start dragging stuff up. No need for it be on facebook but I guess that is the world we live in now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
if I was at the game and seen what happened I would not need to be enquiring, would I?  My primary enquiry was for the welfare of the lad, nothing less!

I will accept that if you say so, but the original comment IMO was 25% about the health of the LG and 75% whataboutery over an incident you had no personally seen.

I am sure we could go back through the years to different incidents from all clubs if we wanted to start dragging stuff up. No need for it be on facebook but I guess that is the world we live in now.
Well I do say so, and I am totally ambivalent whether you accept that or not. I certainly don't appreciate your belligerence by the way!  As I said, my main concern was for the lad McCloskey. And, I am entitled to an opinion just like you.  Have to agree though that no place for such issues on Facebook or other social media, but maybe such was the magnitude and cowardice of the act in question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
if I was at the game and seen what happened I would not need to be enquiring, would I?  My primary enquiry was for the welfare of the lad, nothing less!

I will accept that if you say so, but the original comment IMO was 25% about the health of the LG and 75% whataboutery over an incident you had no personally seen.

I am sure we could go back through the years to different incidents from all clubs if we wanted to start dragging stuff up. No need for it be on facebook but I guess that is the world we live in now.
Well I do say so, and I am totally ambivalent whether you accept that or not. I certainly don't appreciate your belligerence by the way!  As I said, my main concern was for the lad McCloskey. And, I am entitled to an opinion just like you.  Have to agree though that no place for such issues on Facebook or other social media, but maybe such was the magnitude and cowardice of the act in question.

Dont want to really be giving you any more air time because you are clearly on the wind up. But lets not forget that we were 'all' supporting this same lad the weekend before when he came on against Laois and now you are castigating for an incident that you did not see. Therefore you veiled or feigned interest in the welfare of the LG player is completely negated by your later comments.

So I would suggest that it is left there since you have already made your uninformed views on the matter clear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on May 15, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
We're is this video so the rest of us can see it . Hope tony is ok tho .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
To be fair irrespective of whatever happened on wednesday he's not a dirty player and it would be completely out of character for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 15, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Any news on young McCloskey and his arm?  I understand he was subject to a rather cowardly and dirty action by Carson late on during Weds. game!  Trusting an appropriate sanction will be dished out for Carsons serious infraction, but you never know sometimes??

Hardly much need for comment on it, unless you were at the game and saw the alleged action for yourself.

You could have enquired about the LG player's welfare without getting into unnecessary whataboutery.
if I was at the game and seen what happened I would not need to be enquiring, would I?  My primary enquiry was for the welfare of the lad, nothing less!

I will accept that if you say so, but the original comment IMO was 25% about the health of the LG and 75% whataboutery over an incident you had no personally seen.

I am sure we could go back through the years to different incidents from all clubs if we wanted to start dragging stuff up. No need for it be on facebook but I guess that is the world we live in now.
Well I do say so, and I am totally ambivalent whether you accept that or not. I certainly don't appreciate your belligerence by the way!  As I said, my main concern was for the lad McCloskey. And, I am entitled to an opinion just like you.  Have to agree though that no place for such issues on Facebook or other social media, but maybe such was the magnitude and cowardice of the act in question.

Dont want to really be giving you any more air time because you are clearly on the wind up. But lets not forget that we were 'all' supporting this same lad the weekend before when he came on against Laois and now you are castigating for an incident that you did not see. Therefore you veiled or feigned interest in the welfare of the LG player is completely negated by your later comments.

So I would suggest that it is left there since you have already made your uninformed views on the matter clear.
Irrespective whether he played against Laois last Sunday or not, which I do commend by the way.  That does not give him license to deliberately attempt to seriously injure an opponent.  Cowardly and despicable by all accounts and totally uncalled for.    Out of character or not, not the sort of thing any of us wish to be condoning I would say. That's all I am saying, so we will end it here now! 


More importantly, lets hope young McCloskey is ok and recovering well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
Carey beat dunloy? Anyone know what kind of team dunloy had
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
Carey beat dunloy? Anyone know what kind of team dunloy had

Great result for Carey in the Senior Feis tonight V Dunloy. Had Dunloy many missing? Must be a long time since they won a senior Feis match. Fair play to them. Result was 4-9 to 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on May 15, 2015, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
Carey beat dunloy? Anyone know what kind of team dunloy had

Great result for Carey in the Senior Feis tonight V Dunloy. Had Dunloy many missing? Must be a long time since they won a senior Feis match. Fair play to them. Result was 4-9 to 1-11

Great result surely! Think they beat ballycastle a few years back in senior feis!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on May 15, 2015, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
Carey beat dunloy? Anyone know what kind of team dunloy had

Great result for Carey in the Senior Feis tonight V Dunloy. Had Dunloy many missing? Must be a long time since they won a senior Feis match. Fair play to them. Result was 4-9 to 1-11

Great result surely! Think they beat ballycastle a few years back in senior feis!

Don't think so 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on May 16, 2015, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on May 15, 2015, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 15, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:16 PM
Carey beat dunloy? Anyone know what kind of team dunloy had

Great result for Carey in the Senior Feis tonight V Dunloy. Had Dunloy many missing? Must be a long time since they won a senior Feis match. Fair play to them. Result was 4-9 to 1-11

Great result surely! Think they beat ballycastle a few years back in senior feis!

Don't think so 😊

I'm nearly sure they took a big scalp in the feis around 10 yrs ago nearly sure it was the town!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Just heard cloughmills beat Cushendall in the feis cup this evening. 3-16 to 2-10. I wonder what kind of a team the dall had out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on May 16, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Just heard cloughmills beat Cushendall in the feis cup this evening. 3-16 to 2-10. I wonder what kind of a team the dall had out?

I heard they had about 9 or 10 of their normal team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 16, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Just heard cloughmills beat Cushendall in the feis cup this evening. 3-16 to 2-10. I wonder what kind of a team the dall had out?

I heard they had about 9 or 10 of their normal team
heard there it was 1-16. Still, great result for the biddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Just heard cloughmills beat Cushendall in the feis cup this evening. 3-16 to 2-10. I wonder what kind of a team the dall had out?

Obviously not the same team that handily beat Loughgiel last year I'd imagine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2015, 07:46:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2015, 11:53:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 16, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Just heard cloughmills beat Cushendall in the feis cup this evening. 3-16 to 2-10. I wonder what kind of a team the dall had out?

Obviously not the same team that handily beat Loughgiel last year I'd imagine
which was why I asked.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Dunloy C,dall and Ballycastle all gone in the feis.  Any idea what the semi finals are?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2015, 05:48:57 PM
Loughgiel 2-20 ballycastle 0-06.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 17, 2015, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Dunloy C,dall and Ballycastle all gone in the feis.  Any idea what the semi finals are?

Think the semi finals are Loughgiel V Clooney and Cloughmills V Carey. Loughgiel on a different level than the rest of us so far this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 17, 2015, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Dunloy C,dall and Ballycastle all gone in the feis.  Any idea what the semi finals are?

Think the semi finals are Loughgiel V Clooney and Cloughmills V Carey. Loughgiel on a different level than the rest of us so far this year.

In the bag, should just hand it over now, be done with it :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 17, 2015, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 17, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Dunloy C,dall and Ballycastle all gone in the feis.  Any idea what the semi finals are?

Think the semi finals are Loughgiel V Clooney and Cloughmills V Carey. Loughgiel on a different level than the rest of us so far this year.
were not training that long either.  Wouldn't read much into it.  No doubt the champions are the team to beat. Also last years finalists will take beating. Dunloy and Ballycastle won't roll over.  Be a tough championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2015, 10:04:08 PM
Not saying it won't be, but I don't think you or many believe that at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 17, 2015, 11:01:31 PM
I don't think any Antrim championship has ever been won in May. 5 months or so until the championship starts in earnest. Cushendall are the team to beat. They wear the crown and it'll be tough for anyone to take it from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 18, 2015, 01:40:12 AM
I've never went to hurl in a match or watch a match believing anything other than we were going to win.   But Id never protray myself or Loughgiel to be cocky or over confident.   No doubt of the task in hand.  Like SIE said.  It's a long way away.  Injuries could occur like they did last year.  There's a lot of hard yards to take place before any championship is won or lost
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
defeatest attitude. Not good mr2.  ;)

Nobody in loughgiel thinks it's won. Been down that road too many times before. I don't believe anyone on here thinks that getting to a feis cup semi final equates to a championship win. Like I posted yesterday, Cushendall are the team to beat. It's their championship to lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 18, 2015, 07:11:22 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
defeatest attitude. Not good mr2.  ;)

Nobody in loughgiel thinks it's won. Been down that road too many times before. I don't believe anyone on here thinks that getting to a feis cup semi final equates to a championship win. Like I posted yesterday, Cushendall are the team to beat. It's their championship to lose.

And that's the right attitude to portray. Looking like every other contender is in a really poor way of going though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 18, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
defeatest attitude. Not good mr2.  ;)

Nobody in loughgiel thinks it's won. Been down that road too many times before. I don't believe anyone on here thinks that getting to a feis cup semi final equates to a championship win. Like I posted yesterday, Cushendall are the team to beat. It's their championship to lose.

this made me laugh. If you cant see that Lgiel are the form team, unbeaten and the one to watch then you may start following another team lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 18, 2015, 11:06:29 AM
Undoubtedly Loughgiel are the in form team, unbeaten to date if I am correct.  Championship is a long way off though and a different kettle of fish, as they say.  Any team come championship can always step up and provide the odd shock or two.  You never know, St. Galls could possibly reach another county hurling final?? Recent results by the minnows (such as Biddies & Carey) cannot be discounted either, and that is a form of N. Antrim Championship is it not?  Granted, the Biddies and Carey are in a different grade of championship, but still proves perceived lesser teams may bring about the shock! zz zz zz

When are the Feis semi finals?  Always tend to be feisty!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 18, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
defeatest attitude. Not good mr2.  ;)

Nobody in loughgiel thinks it's won. Been down that road too many times before. I don't believe anyone on here thinks that getting to a feis cup semi final equates to a championship win. Like I posted yesterday, Cushendall are the team to beat. It's their championship to lose.

this made me laugh. If you cant see that Lgiel are the form team, unbeaten and the one to watch then you may start following another team lad.
No one is saying they aren't in good form DR, but you should know that good form in May does not equate to winning a championship in September/October. To say otherwise is ludicrous. The dall will definitely miss Graffin, a class player, but they've got a great crop of young fellas chomping at the bit to get at it. I've no doubt they'll be a different animal come the autumn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 18, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
shamrocks 'should' win at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 18, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
shamrocks 'should' win at a canter.
Nonsense. Apart from 2013 when have we ever won the championship "at a canter"? And I mean in the last 5 years. All have been close. Indeed we never got to the final last year. Short term memory loss by some posters.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
You dropped the ball last year sie and are unlikely to do it again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2015, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 18, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2015, 11:23:10 PM
Our lads are preparing for the game..... They have the guard of honor all down to a T
defeatest attitude. Not good mr2.  ;)

Nobody in loughgiel thinks it's won. Been down that road too many times before. I don't believe anyone on here thinks that getting to a feis cup semi final equates to a championship win. Like I posted yesterday, Cushendall are the team to beat. It's their championship to lose.

this made me laugh. If you cant see that Lgiel are the form team, unbeaten and the one to watch then you may start following another team lad.
No one is saying they aren't in good form DR, but you should know that good form in May does not equate to winning a championship in September/October. To say otherwise is ludicrous. The dall will definitely miss Graffin, a class player, but they've got a great crop of young fellas chomping at the bit to get at it. I've no doubt they'll be a different animal come the autumn.

I have to be honest and say we wont be there this year to win it. We simply not good enough esp in the forwards and we can ill afford to lose players like Nigel Elliott (knee), Kevin McQuillian (quit hurling) and Kevin Molloy (hamstring). We dont have the strength on the bench to cover losing such players. We have some good young minors but they are only 17 and have another year left at minor, theres no point in rushing them into the team just yet.

Cushendall should have the depth in their panel with that previous minor winning team, they dont see to have started well, much like ourselves.

Lgiel are the form team, unbeaten at that, and everyone will want to beat them now. I do get what your saying in that its early doors and nothings won in May. Its how your aged panel will cope with an potential injuries over the season. Avoid them and you will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 19, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Loughgiel are not as good as the wide margin victories lately suggest.  There is still a lot of work to do.

None of our main rivals are as bad as recent results suggest.

I though Kevin McQuillan was injured, never knew he had packed it in. He's a good ball winning forward that Dunloy could do with. When Nigel Elliot, Sean Dowds and Kevin Molloy regain fitness though they will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 19, 2015, 09:29:39 AM
Why would Kevin McQuillan quit hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 19, 2015, 10:48:47 AM
See Neil McManus confirmed out for 2 months with a knee injury in the Irish news, Carlow could be another dark day for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2015, 11:15:45 AM
Kevin was struggling to get any degree of fitness back from each injury he got when playing hurling plus he has now taken over joint management of the senior football team and U16 footballers. Gaelic football is Kevins first love, hurling was always a second for him. Hes a brilliant footballer and played his first game on sunday there again for them.

Hes a loss to the hurlers but his hearts in football more so, always has been.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 19, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 11:15:45 AM
Kevin was struggling to get any degree of fitness back from each injury he got when playing hurling plus he has now taken over joint management of the senior football team and U16 footballers. Gaelic football is Kevins first love, hurling was always a second for him. Hes a brilliant footballer and played his first game on sunday there again for them.

Hes a loss to the hurlers but his hearts in football more so, always has been.

The perils of being a dual club raises it's head again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on May 19, 2015, 03:26:44 PM
Popped in to watch a training session while in the area, bigger crowds at a Shams training night that at most league games all year, some belief and atmosphere it has to be said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
"heaven"  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on May 19, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
"heaven"  8)

http://www.qradionetwork.com/qradio/north-coast/north-coast-news/q97-2-news/loughguile-named-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-countryside/

Would it be spectators at training or other juveniles/parents etc? Have to say there is nothing much better than passing a GAA ground wherever of a summer's evening and a pitch or pitches are full of different teams training away.

Loughgeil do seem to be getting up a head of steam.

A shame about Kevin McQuillan as a couple of years back he was flying.

Heard that quite a few from The Town might be headed Stateside and back for championship?

No McManus and Graffan for a couple of months might make some younger heads from the Dall step up?? Assume McManus back for championship and it will be a waiting game for Graffan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 19, 2015, 11:53:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 18, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
shamrocks 'should' win at a canter.
Nonsense. Apart from 2013 when have we ever won the championship "at a canter"? And I mean in the last 5 years. All have been close. Indeed we never got to the final last year. Short term memory loss by some posters.  ;)
You know it's championship time when SIE is warning everyone off backing the Shamrock's  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 20, 2015, 05:44:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 19, 2015, 11:53:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 18, 2015, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 18, 2015, 07:03:14 PM
shamrocks 'should' win at a canter.
Nonsense. Apart from 2013 when have we ever won the championship "at a canter"? And I mean in the last 5 years. All have been close. Indeed we never got to the final last year. Short term memory loss by some posters.  ;)
You know it's championship time when SIE is warning everyone off backing the Shamrock's  ;D
Its championship time is it? I didn't think it was for another 4 or 5 months. Silly me. :P 

Sorry to hear about McQuillan. A couple of years ago I was supporting his call up to the county squad. But if his heart isn't in it and injuries are mounting up then fair play to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 19, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
"heaven"  8)

http://www.qradionetwork.com/qradio/north-coast/north-coast-news/q97-2-news/loughguile-named-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-countryside/

Would it be spectators at training or other juveniles/parents etc? Have to say there is nothing much better than passing a GAA ground wherever of a summer's evening and a pitch or pitches are full of different teams training away.

Loughgeil do seem to be getting up a head of steam.

A shame about Kevin McQuillan as a couple of years back he was flying.

Heard that quite a few from The Town might be headed Stateside and back for championship?

No McManus and Graffan for a couple of months might make some younger heads from the Dall step up?? Assume McManus back for championship and it will be a waiting game for Graffan?
kevin is a grand hurler no doubt and a miss to dunloy.   Am sure he'll be back at some stage.     I would think Neill and Aaron will both be back by championship.  Who's leaving Ballycastle for the lure of a summer away?     And finally.   We've always had a right few around watching trainings.  Nothing new.  Just somewhere to gather and yarn. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Club Rossa on May 20, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
When did Ballycastle last win the Senior hurling championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 20, 2015, 01:30:54 PM
1986
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Club Rossa on May 20, 2015, 01:34:39 PM
Thanks,was talking to a Ballycastle man this morning who said it was mid eighties was wasn't sure of the exact year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 20, 2015, 03:51:34 PM
Any decent games on in the city this evening, I have visitors home from the States and looking for a game to bring them to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 20, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Next hurling matches not til Fri .... Minor Leagues

Games close to the city

Time   Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Referee   Round   Notes
7 30 PM   St John's GAC   ---   ---   Kevin Lynch Hurling Club   Corrigan Park    Fionntan Mc Cotter    Round 2    
7 30 PM   Naomh Éanna   ---   ---   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St Enda's    Eamon Hamill    Round 2    
7 30 PM   O`Donovan Rossa   ---   ---   Naomh Padraig (North Antrim)   Pairc Rossa    Kevin Parke    Round 2    
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 20, 2015, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 20, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Next hurling matches not til Fri .... Minor Leagues

Games close to the city

Time   Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Referee   Round   Notes
7 30 PM   St John's GAC   ---   ---   Kevin Lynch Hurling Club   Corrigan Park    Fionntan Mc Cotter    Round 2    
7 30 PM   Naomh Éanna   ---   ---   Loughgiel Shamrocks   St Enda's    Eamon Hamill    Round 2    
7 30 PM   O`Donovan Rossa   ---   ---   Naomh Padraig (North Antrim)   Pairc Rossa    Kevin Parke    Round 2
Thank you Skull.  It was really tonight I was looking for, and happened to wonder if there were by chance any games this evening. I appreciate your response anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on May 20, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
Lamh dhearg  v St John's or Gorts v St pauls in the football is your only gaa action tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 20, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
Our heavy defeat to Westmeath could haunt us this weekend at Dr. Cullen Park. If we beat Carlow and Westmeath win(and they've plenty of motivation to do so ..home v Ofally) we're through to a Leinster quarter final v Wexford. However, if we win and Laois win then they will go through due to the huge score difference as a result of said defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on May 20, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
If we win at all and avoid the Christy Ring I will be happy enough at this point. The days of taking a win against Carlow for granted are long gone. Being realistic if we did get through to meet Wexford somehow they would mince us again as they did last year. They are better than last year and we are worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Is Christy Ring not our level after the last few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 21, 2015, 09:18:25 AM
it prob is, our hurling standard in Antrim isnt good enough to compete with the top level counties come the summer time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 21, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Sunday 10th May 2015

  Leinster GAA SHC Round Robin 2

Mullingar (3.30)   



Aontroim  v  Westmeath

you would think the county would take this down as header on homepage. scene of worst result for Antrim hurling in many years and concentrate on at least advertising the Carlow game. Jesus if they have lost interest what do they expect from supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 21, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 21, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Sunday 10th May 2015

  Leinster GAA SHC Round Robin 2

Mullingar (3.30)   



Aontroim  v  Westmeath

you would think the county would take this down as header on homepage. scene of worst result for Antrim hurling in many years and concentrate on at least advertising the Carlow game. Jesus if they have lost interest what do they expect from supporters.

Sums things up perfectly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2015, 10:13:30 AM
What does it sum up for you hurlingstick? Reckon people will have different thoughts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 21, 2015, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 21, 2015, 10:13:30 AM
What does it sum up for you hurlingstick? Reckon people will have different thoughts

The lack of professionalism and detail
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 21, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 21, 2015, 10:13:30 AM
What does it sum up for you hurlingstick? Reckon people will have different thoughts

not that you ever agree with me anyway but for me it represents giving up and lack of enthusiasm. after Laois result it was all geared towards Mullingar of website. Then after Mullingar nothing. as if its over. this may well be the view held by many but surely the county should still be trying to galvinise support for the game as it is still championship. the moderator on the site looks down his nose on negative comments but surely negativity can also be judged by doing nothing.

What may your 'different thoughts' be Skull?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2015, 12:20:43 PM
My thoughts would be, that its a symptom amongst the many symptoms of how we lack the critical mass of people to run the GAA properly in this county and eventually those trying to do things to the best of their ability get scundered at this reality  (i.e year in year out failure guaranteed) whilst the apathy virus permeates the minds of the snipers on the sidelines.

Just trying to see a different perspective .... not that there's much to 'disagree' with in what you've said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 21, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
We in Antrim wish to be treated as professionals in an amateur sporting association, yet we continue to be amateurish in our outlook.  We don't have the resources, finance or the wherewithal among our leaders, CB, Clubs or individuals to radicalise and make the required change.  Whether through fear or ineptitude, that's the reality.

Are we all prepared to dig deep in our pockets, sacrifice family duties and commit to strategic and co-ordinated coaching for the greater good of our county?

I fear, we will be talking about such same issues in another decades time.  We'll continue to make excuses, circumnavigate, cop out, blame everyone else but ourselves.  Meanwhile, while we continue to bury our collective heads in the sand, low and behold the Shinners and the great unwashed C. McC will continue with their peripheral infiltration of our association, especially in Antrim.  Heaven help us all.  Time to take a stand, tomorrow may be too late!

Antrim CB, UC don't give a toss about Antrim Hurling, Croke Park don't give a toss about us Nordies either, believe me! 

In some respects can you blame them?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 21, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
I blame that cake ashers didnt make for everthing!! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 21, 2015, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 21, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
I blame that cake ashers didnt make for everthing!! :D
Very good DR, to each his own, to each his own!  Well, its just a reflection of our changing, diverse and pluralist society, which I personally have no problem with.  I'm not one to judge on such things.

For Gizzys benefit:

Do you see what dialogue and engagement can do sometimes?

Extract from county website.


Sunday 24th May 2015 @2.00p

  Leinster GAA SHC Round Robin 3

Dr Cullen Park

Carlow  v  Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2015, 09:37:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 21, 2015, 02:52:21 PM
I blame that cake ashers didnt make for everthing!! :D

DR you better hope Donal Og doesn't  read the antrim threads

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=237731

i see N Mc Auley has defected to dunloy according to this

apart form this inaccuracy everything else seems spot on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 21, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment in the article. Nobody can dispute that the massive potential in terms of numbers in Belfast is under utilised.

Maybe it's that chip on my shoulder again but we need to be wary of some points however.

It's simply not true that there are no coaches in schools - there's nowhere near enough - but to say there is none isn't really fair to the people (volunteers & paid) who swim against the tide in their efforts here.

The impression from the article (no fault of Neal Macauley's) is that Belfast is a hurling wasteland at underage. A quick glance at the roll of honour of underage tournaments tells a different story. Rossa & St John's have outstanding records probably the best in the county - and St Galls have just won feile.
The issues are in moving this to senior!

That all said maybe I'm just being a bit over sensitive so before I finish I absolutely agree that the provision for kids in Belfast in terms of hurling is quite inadequate. We have huge un-fulfilled potential.
But let's not dis-respect the monumental work done by some - let's look at what else needs done and who can do it?
The real question behind Neil mcauleys article I hope is - where do we go from here?
How can we increase participation?
How can we increase the amount and quality of coaching?
How can we reduce the huge drop-off in the city around minor?
And who can do (pay) for this?

A welcome article all things considered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2015, 12:20:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment in the article. Nobody can dispute that the massive potential in terms of numbers in Belfast is under utilised.

Maybe it's that chip on my shoulder again but we need to be wary of some points however.

It's simply not true that there are no coaches in schools - there's nowhere near enough - but to say there is none isn't really fair to the people (volunteers & paid) who swim against the tide in their efforts here.

The impression from the article (no fault of Neal Macauley's) is that Belfast is a hurling wasteland at underage. A quick glance at the roll of honour of underage tournaments tells a different story. Rossa & St John's have outstanding records probably the best in the county - and St Galls have just won feile.
The issues are in moving this to senior!

That all said maybe I'm just being a bit over sensitive so before I finish I absolutely agree that the provision for kids in Belfast in terms of hurling is quite inadequate. We have huge un-fulfilled potential.
But let's not dis-respect the monumental work done by some - let's look at what else needs done and who can do it?
The real question behind Neil mcauleys article I hope is - where do we go from here?
How can we increase participation?
How can we increase the amount and quality of coaching?
How can we reduce the huge drop-off in the city around minor?
And who can do (pay) for this?

A welcome article all things considered.

i agree with everything you have said here
In fairness to Neil his articulation maybe slightly off but his sentiments are what matters and i don't think he  is having a crack at anyone who as at  the coalface in terms of underage volunteer work
In view of the way things have being going at county level its nice to know that one of our best hurlers is now acknowledging our position and  doing some soul searching on the subject
The realization that as a county we are not utilizing our largest resource is nothing new on here and the share of success between 4 clubs up here in the north is not healthy for either the  club or county scene
I think its time to forget any help from croke park (they simply don't give a sh..) and as Neil  says the likes of laois and westmeath seem to be producing more competitive underage teams without extra  financial assistance
please don't think the lack of coaching resources is a scenario exclusive to the city either I know we have plenty of room for a extra pair of hands ( I cant speak for the rest )

The last few weeks have been a bit of a wake up call but the sad reality is i cant see the critics and the '' let someone else do it'' types taking the negativity/apathy and turning it into something constructive

Denis Walsh(Sunday times gaa) once wrote about Antrim hurling that '' when struggle comes with the condition then you struggle,if you give your heart to Antrim hurling don't t expect to get it back in one piece''
those words  always resonated with me about some of our players who tried their best. it was published ten years ago and still applies today
it seems the struggle can be attributed to coaches and volunteers as well
so lets keep going regardless




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment in the article. Nobody can dispute that the massive potential in terms of numbers in Belfast is under utilised.

Maybe it's that chip on my shoulder again but we need to be wary of some points however.

It's simply not true that there are no coaches in schools - there's nowhere near enough - but to say there is none isn't really fair to the people (volunteers & paid) who swim against the tide in their efforts here.

The impression from the article (no fault of Neal Macauley's) is that Belfast is a hurling wasteland at underage. A quick glance at the roll of honour of underage tournaments tells a different story. Rossa & St John's have outstanding records probably the best in the county - and St Galls have just won feile.
The issues are in moving this to senior!

That all said maybe I'm just being a bit over sensitive so before I finish I absolutely agree that the provision for kids in Belfast in terms of hurling is quite inadequate. We have huge un-fulfilled potential.
But let's not dis-respect the monumental work done by some - let's look at what else needs done and who can do it?
The real question behind Neil mcauleys article I hope is - where do we go from here?
How can we increase participation?
How can we increase the amount and quality of coaching?
How can we reduce the huge drop-off in the city around minor?
And who can do (pay) for this?

A welcome article all things considered.

If its funding from Croke park you need, then Antrim CB need to go to them with a joined up plan and a real intent to deliver on it, AFAIK, there's plenty of gurning about Croke Park not funding Belfast, but the powers that be in Belfast haven't got anything down on paper that Croke Park could buy into.

Plus I'd say that almost 50% of the full time hurling coaches employed by the Ulster Council are from Belfast, so you'd think that they'd know the wants and needs of their home patch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 22, 2015, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment in the article. Nobody can dispute that the massive potential in terms of numbers in Belfast is under utilised.

Maybe it's that chip on my shoulder again but we need to be wary of some points however.

It's simply not true that there are no coaches in schools - there's nowhere near enough - but to say there is none isn't really fair to the people (volunteers & paid) who swim against the tide in their efforts here.

The impression from the article (no fault of Neal Macauley's) is that Belfast is a hurling wasteland at underage. A quick glance at the roll of honour of underage tournaments tells a different story. Rossa & St John's have outstanding records probably the best in the county - and St Galls have just won feile.
The issues are in moving this to senior!

That all said maybe I'm just being a bit over sensitive so before I finish I absolutely agree that the provision for kids in Belfast in terms of hurling is quite inadequate. We have huge un-fulfilled potential.
But let's not dis-respect the monumental work done by some - let's look at what else needs done and who can do it?
The real question behind Neil mcauleys article I hope is - where do we go from here?
How can we increase participation?
How can we increase the amount and quality of coaching?
How can we reduce the huge drop-off in the city around minor?
And who can do (pay) for this?

A welcome article all things considered.

If its funding from Croke park you need, then Antrim CB need to go to them with a joined up plan and a real intent to deliver on it, AFAIK, there's plenty of gurning about Croke Park not funding Belfast, but the powers that be in Belfast haven't got anything down on paper that Croke Park could buy into.

Plus I'd say that almost 50% of the full time hurling coaches employed by the Ulster Council are from Belfast, so you'd think that they'd know the wants and needs of their home patch

JC
You mean the one like the Belfast Hurling Strategy?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 10:49:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 22, 2015, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 21, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment in the article. Nobody can dispute that the massive potential in terms of numbers in Belfast is under utilised.

Maybe it's that chip on my shoulder again but we need to be wary of some points however.

It's simply not true that there are no coaches in schools - there's nowhere near enough - but to say there is none isn't really fair to the people (volunteers & paid) who swim against the tide in their efforts here.

The impression from the article (no fault of Neal Macauley's) is that Belfast is a hurling wasteland at underage. A quick glance at the roll of honour of underage tournaments tells a different story. Rossa & St John's have outstanding records probably the best in the county - and St Galls have just won feile.
The issues are in moving this to senior!

That all said maybe I'm just being a bit over sensitive so before I finish I absolutely agree that the provision for kids in Belfast in terms of hurling is quite inadequate. We have huge un-fulfilled potential.
But let's not dis-respect the monumental work done by some - let's look at what else needs done and who can do it?
The real question behind Neil mcauleys article I hope is - where do we go from here?
How can we increase participation?
How can we increase the amount and quality of coaching?
How can we reduce the huge drop-off in the city around minor?
And who can do (pay) for this?

A welcome article all things considered.

If its funding from Croke park you need, then Antrim CB need to go to them with a joined up plan and a real intent to deliver on it, AFAIK, there's plenty of gurning about Croke Park not funding Belfast, but the powers that be in Belfast haven't got anything down on paper that Croke Park could buy into.

Plus I'd say that almost 50% of the full time hurling coaches employed by the Ulster Council are from Belfast, so you'd think that they'd know the wants and needs of their home patch

JC
You mean the one like the Belfast Hurling Strategy?  ;)

The very thing with several 'goals' with none achieved and headed up by Jim Murray.

I think I pasted those very goals on another thread about Antrims underachievement, I'll see if I can hoke it out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
Found it;

Here's the main targets from a 'Belfast Strategy document 2009- 2014, how many were hit?

Coaching, Games and Participation
•At least 10 GAA Community Coaches for the Belfast Urban Area
•An increase in games participation of at least 20% by 2014
•A specific Belfast Continuing Professional Development programme for volunteerclub coaches
•Cross Club summer and Easter coaching camps
•City Based Development Squads
•Enhanced Club-School links through new coaching initiatives and programmes
•Programmes to attract new participations who traditionally would have no involvement in the GAA

Physical Development
•Belfast GAA Urban Centre of Participation and Excellence that includes at least three new full-size pitches for club use in North and West Belfast
•At least two new full-size GAA pitches for use in the South and East Belfast
•Redevelopment of Casement Park to an appropriate standard for the main GAAs tadium in Ireland's second city.

Club Governance
•New group comprising of Belfast GAA club officials, Antrim, Down and Ulster GAA officials to drive the development of the GAA in Belfast
•At least two Development Officers to support Club officials in administration governance and ongoing club development
•A new Brand and Identity for the GAA in Belfast
•A "joined-up" club led approach to the overall development of the GAA in the City
•A strong GAA presence and linkage with all local government and relevant public bodies in the city.
•Specific Belfast GAA Club Development Seminars and Volunteer training events.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
christ i can see very little there that has been achieved, i would love to see what excuses they have for each of those points for it not being done or at the min a progress report as to where they are.

Belfast GAA Urban Centre of Participation and Excellence that includes at least three new full-size pitches for club use in North and West Belfast - we cant even bloody fund our own development let alone another one!

At least two new full-size GAA pitches for use in the South and East Belfast - zero

Redevelopment of Casement Park to an appropriate standard for the main GAAs tadium in Ireland's second city - less said the better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2015, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
christ i can see very little there that has been achieved, i would love to see what excuses they have for each of those points for it not being done or at the min a progress report as to where they are.

Belfast GAA Urban Centre of Participation and Excellence that includes at least three new full-size pitches for club use in North and West Belfast - we cant even bloody fund our own development let alone another one!

At least two new full-size GAA pitches for use in the South and East Belfast - zero

Redevelopment of Casement Park to an appropriate standard for the main GAAs tadium in Ireland's second city - less said the better

They're the big hitters that would need serious financial investment, but what about the simple organisational ones, requiring little financial investment, just a good structure and organisational skills?

•An increase in games participation of at least 20% by 2014
•A specific Belfast Continuing Professional Development programme for volunteerclub coaches
•Cross Club summer and Easter coaching camps
•City Based Development Squads
•Enhanced Club-School links through new coaching initiatives and programmes
•Programmes to attract new participations who traditionally would have no involvement in the GAA

•New group comprising of Belfast GAA club officials, Antrim, Down and Ulster GAA officials to drive the development of the GAA in Belfast
•At least two Development Officers to support Club officials in administration governance and ongoing club development
•A new Brand and Identity for the GAA in Belfast
•A "joined-up" club led approach to the overall development of the GAA in the City
•A strong GAA presence and linkage with all local government and relevant public bodies in the city.
•Specific Belfast GAA Club Development Seminars and Volunteer training events.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2015, 01:58:41 PM
Def JC, agree totally. I would love to see their progress they have made on each of those points.

Have they had the increase in games participation by at least 20% last year? Hard to tell as i dont see all that many games in the city

A city based development squad? again ive no idea. I know theres a north antrim under age squad now which i think is a great idea.

To be fair i cant guess the rest at all but suffice to say not alot has been done which is disappointing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 22, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
See what I mean, accusatory, finger pointing and recrimination, but wait - what is somebody else doing about it??, tut, tut, tut.

As I also said, it needs a joined up, realistic and measurable strategic plan to develop hurling in Belfast and Antrim.  It also needs to be driven by physical and financial resources and an adept body to steer and be accountable for it!

All that side, we all all culpable are we not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2015, 02:21:25 PM
Maybe some of the Belfast coahes posting on here can enlighten us if there was any liasonce between the  clubs and our county board on this plan
I get the feeling that the clubs don't trust or respect them and if that is the case why would croke park dish out on a programme doomed due to the fragmented landscape
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 22, 2015, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2015, 02:21:25 PM
Maybe some of the Belfast coahes posting on here can enlighten us if there was any liasonce between the  clubs and our county board on this plan
I get the feeling that the clubs don't trust or respect them and if that is the case why would croke park dish out on a programme doomed due to the fragmented landscape
A fractured and disparate landscape at that, NAH!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 22, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 22, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
See what I mean, accusatory, finger pointing and recrimination, but wait - what is somebody else doing about it??, tut, tut, tut.

As I also said, it needs a joined up, realistic and measurable strategic plan to develop hurling in Belfast and Antrim.  It also needs to be driven by physical and financial resources and an adept body to steer and be accountable for it!

All that side, we all all culpable are we not?

Ive no idea whats being done about it but in 5 years ive never heard of anything thats on that list. If our CB has decided they would do this then i have to ask the question WTF did they do about it in 5 years? If they didnt then what were they doing in this time?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 22, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 22, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on May 22, 2015, 02:05:00 PM
See what I mean, accusatory, finger pointing and recrimination, but wait - what is somebody else doing about it??, tut, tut, tut.

As I also said, it needs a joined up, realistic and measurable strategic plan to develop hurling in Belfast and Antrim.  It also needs to be driven by physical and financial resources and an adept body to steer and be accountable for it!

All that side, we all all culpable are we not?

Ive no idea whats being done about it but in 5 years ive never heard of anything thats on that list. If our CB has decided they would do this then i have to ask the question WTF did they do about it in 5 years? If they didnt then what were they doing in this time?
Totally agree with you DR, but again the point I am making is, if they done absolutely nothing with the plan, we need to take them to task and bring them to account.  Are all our clubs going to do that? - NO!

Are our clubs going to bury their heads in the sand as usual and re-elect them again? - YES

I reiterate, we are all culpable, each and everyone of us.  Any future new plan is also likely to sit on the shelf and accumulate dust, just like so many others.  We elect these individuals, we should also make them accountable, but do we? - NO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on May 23, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 19, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
"heaven"  8)

http://www.qradionetwork.com/qradio/north-coast/north-coast-news/q97-2-news/loughguile-named-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-countryside/

Would it be spectators at training or other juveniles/parents etc? Have to say there is nothing much better than passing a GAA ground wherever of a summer's evening and a pitch or pitches are full of different teams training away.

Loughgeil do seem to be getting up a head of steam.

A shame about Kevin McQuillan as a couple of years back he was flying.

Heard that quite a few from The Town might be headed Stateside and back for championship?

No McManus and Graffan for a couple of months might make some younger heads from the Dall step up?? Assume McManus back for championship and it will be a waiting game for Graffan?
kevin is a grand hurler no doubt and a miss to dunloy.   Am sure he'll be back at some stage.     I would think Neill and Aaron will both be back by championship.  Who's leaving Ballycastle for the lure of a summer away?     And finally.   We've always had a right few around watching trainings.  Nothing new.  Just somewhere to gather and yarn. Lol

Really really worried about us this year. We are losing 5 players (all of whom are key starters) as far as I know for extended periods over the summer from an already thin squad. The five players all live together in Belfast and have decided to head away before returning for championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 23, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
Who's for where?  Thankfully it's something that hasn't really ever effected us.  Hard to give out at the young fellas also though. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
good luck to the lads tomorrow v carlow lets hope the christy ring isn't looming
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 23, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 23, 2015, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
good luck to the lads tomorrow v carlow lets hope the christy ring isn't looming
If he is we should put him on.
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on May 24, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 23, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 20, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on May 19, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 19, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 19, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
its all there is to do around lgiel to be fair lol :P
;D
"heaven"  8)

http://www.qradionetwork.com/qradio/north-coast/north-coast-news/q97-2-news/loughguile-named-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-countryside/

Would it be spectators at training or other juveniles/parents etc? Have to say there is nothing much better than passing a GAA ground wherever of a summer's evening and a pitch or pitches are full of different teams training away.

Loughgeil do seem to be getting up a head of steam.

A shame about Kevin McQuillan as a couple of years back he was flying.

Heard that quite a few from The Town might be headed Stateside and back for championship?

No McManus and Graffan for a couple of months might make some younger heads from the Dall step up?? Assume McManus back for championship and it will be a waiting game for Graffan?
kevin is a grand hurler no doubt and a miss to dunloy.   Am sure he'll be back at some stage.     I would think Neill and Aaron will both be back by championship.  Who's leaving Ballycastle for the lure of a summer away?     And finally.   We've always had a right few around watching trainings.  Nothing new.  Just somewhere to gather and yarn. Lol

Really really worried about us this year. We are losing 5 players (all of whom are key starters) as far as I know for extended periods over the summer from an already thin squad. The five players all live together in Belfast and have decided to head away before returning for championship

Hurler24 I've been really worried about us since AGM in December voted in our current management team.  The lads can't be faulted for wanting to take this opportunity.....hopefully they'll get summers worth of good coaching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on May 24, 2015, 12:06:33 PM
Some serious questions needed asked in our club. The stories coming out from the senior camp at the minute are worrying to say the least. Seems to have been a major backward step taken by club. But I suppose when your club is run by dinosaurs what else can you expect.

I can only hope the players knuckle down themselves and try and lift the current gloom that has been created by all parties involved

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 24, 2015, 02:49:09 PM
Half time scores in the Leinster Championship

Carlow 0-8 1-3 Antrim
Westmeath 0-10 0-6 Laois
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:08:23 PM
Latest Carlow 1-15 Antrim 1-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 24, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
Laois getting beat aswell. Christy Ring best place for us not up to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
Ciaran Johnson red card. Both teams playing with 14. Carlow seem to be hurling out of their skin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on May 24, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
9 Points down,, and ciaran johnston sent off,,, looks like christy ring next year

big changes needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on May 24, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
9 Points down,, and ciaran johnston sent off,,, looks like christy ring next year

big changes needed
New manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 03:27:38 PM
Ryan McCambridge down with what looks like a bad neck injury. Hopefully he'll be ok. Grand hurler he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:28:38 PM
Carlow down to 13.Ryan McCambridge stretchered off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
Simon McCrory red card.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on May 24, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
9 Points down,, and ciaran johnston sent off,,, looks like christy ring next year

big changes needed
New manager?
who????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:36:49 PM
Full Time Carlow 2-18 Antrim 1-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 24, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on May 24, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
9 Points down,, and ciaran johnston sent off,,, looks like christy ring next year

big changes needed
New manager?
who????

Kevin Ryan has demonstrated that he is not capable of managing Antrim. Div 2A & Christy Ring in 3 years. Says it all really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 24, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
:-X

And the shock is?

3 words about Carlow's ability to play the game as good as we can
Mount Leinster Rangers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 24, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
:-X

And the shock is?

3 words about Carlow's ability to play the game as good as we can
Mount Leinster Rangers
Nice wee dig there skull. Your true colours shining through. So it is loughgiel's fault.  ::)

Mlr deserved their victory. We didn't turn up until it was too late and nearly pulled it off. We defeated the Munster and Leinster club champions in 2012. So, using your theory, Antrim were as good as Kilkenny and Tipp in 2012?  ;)

The fact is however that Antrim defeated Carlow last year in the Leinster round robin. Remember skull? That was after mlr defeated us. We, obviously, have gotten worse and they've gotten better. The facts speak for themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 24, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
:-X

And the shock is?

3 words about Carlow's ability to play the game as good as we can
Mount Leinster Rangers
Nice wee dig there skull. Your true colours shining through. So it is loughgiel's fault.  ::)

Mlr deserved their victory. We didn't turn up until it was too late and nearly pulled it off.

The fact is however that Antrim defeated Carlow last year in the Leinster round robin. Remember skull? That was after mlr defeated us. We, obviously, have gotten worse and they've gotten better. The facts speak for themselves.

Are we talking Antrim or Loughgiel here? Is it a surprise we were beaten today? Down a few players people not committing and some players not bothered.... We haven't our best. 15 out and Brian Cody couldn't make a silk purse of ....

No guarantee that we'll win Christy Ring either but as long as the club championship goes well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2015, 06:51:58 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 24, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 24, 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
:-X

And the shock is?

3 words about Carlow's ability to play the game as good as we can
Mount Leinster Rangers
Nice wee dig there skull. Your true colours shining through. So it is loughgiel's fault.  ::)

Mlr deserved their victory. We didn't turn up until it was too late and nearly pulled it off.

The fact is however that Antrim defeated Carlow last year in the Leinster round robin. Remember skull? That was after mlr defeated us. We, obviously, have gotten worse and they've gotten better. The facts speak for themselves.

Are we talking Antrim or Loughgiel here? Is it a surprise we were beaten today? Down a few players people not committing and some players not bothered.... We haven't our best. 15 out and Brian Cody couldn't make a silk purse of ....

No guarantee that we'll win Christy Ring either but as long as the club championship goes well
ask skull.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
Bit of paranoia kicking in there sie. The best in carlow beat the best in antrim the other year so it's not a stretch from that to say that carlow hurling should be competitive with antrim. While loughgiel may have lost club last year they are way ahead of the other teams so even if mlr are too it's very comparable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
Bit of paranoia kicking in there sie. The best in carlow beat the best in antrim the other year so it's not a stretch from that to say that carlow hurling should be competitive with antrim. While loughgiel may have lost club last year they are way ahead of the other teams so even if mlr are too it's very comparable.
I ask you to go back and read what I posted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
Bit of paranoia kicking in there sie. The best in carlow beat the best in antrim the other year so it's not a stretch from that to say that carlow hurling should be competitive with antrim. While loughgiel may have lost club last year they are way ahead of the other teams so even if mlr are too it's very comparable.
I ask you to go back and read what I posted.

I read it.

Anyway - poor result today. Really disappointing year. Hopefully a half decent club championship at least as last year's was poor enough.

Dunno where we go from here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
Bit of paranoia kicking in there sie. The best in carlow beat the best in antrim the other year so it's not a stretch from that to say that carlow hurling should be competitive with antrim. While loughgiel may have lost club last year they are way ahead of the other teams so even if mlr are too it's very comparable.
I ask you to go back and read what I posted.

I read it.

Anyway - poor result today. Really disappointing year. Hopefully a half decent club championship at least as last year's was poor enough.

Dunno where we go from here.
i agree about the championship. If we could get two or three good games it would finish things on a high. As for Antrim, I'm not allowed to post about them or certain individuals get the hump.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2015, 08:13:21 PM
Lol. Some would say ypu seem to post a lot more when we lose though not been much to prove or disprove that this year :-\

Anyway. Loughgiel's to lose especially with the boys injured for cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 24, 2015, 08:38:35 PM
I've posted in equal measure. In fact I've been quite restrained.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 25, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
any word on how Ryan McCambridge is doing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2015, 09:03:33 AM
i dont think anyone is shocked we lost yesterday, the way things have been going the confidence was low etc you seen it coming.

I read alot of stuff on twitter from people saying things like it doesnt reflect on how good our club hurling is. Is it? Is our club hurling so great because im starting to think that were burying our heads in the sand there as well judging by the results our county side are producing this past 3 years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 25, 2015, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 25, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
any word on how Ryan McCambridge is doing?
Cracked ribs and kept in hospital for concussion overnight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 25, 2015, 09:14:01 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 25, 2015, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist link=topic=1347.mone sg1471945#msg14A71945 date=143254101Our 3
i dont think anyone isis betweenhocked we lost yesterday, the way things have been going the confidence was low etc you seen it coming.

I read alot of stuff on twitter from people saying things like it doesnt reflect on how good our club hurling is. Is it? Is our club hurling so great because im starting to think that were burying our heads in the sand there as well judging by the results our county side are producing this past 3 years.

The great Loughiel side of 3 years ago is the one shining light of top grade hurling. Our senior club championship is between 3 clubs, year in year out with the odd exception. The last three county finals have been terrible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 25, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 25, 2015, 09:09:19 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 25, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
any word on how Ryan McCambridge is doing?
Cracked ribs and kept in hospital for concussion overnight.
glad to hear it's not his neck after all. Hopefully he'll make a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 01:44:44 PM
Talk of an ex-Sarsfields Johnnies man putting himself forward for County Chair.

Jackie?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
Johnneycool finds the back of the net.

There's a first  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 01:44:44 PM
Talk of an ex-Sarsfields Johnnies man putting himself forward for County Chair.

Jackie?
who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 25, 2015, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 03:38:37 PM
Jackie Kelly.

If he's honest, has the best intrest of the county at heart how is he gonna pull with the rest of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 25, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
It would seem that being a deviant, corrupt and untrustworthy individual are core characteristics for taking an executive position in our county. Heavens above, is that the best we can come up with?

I am all for initiating radical measures, but I will draw the line in that some degree of decency and integrity as a pre-requisite when taking up a positon of power and authority.

We should all aim to subdugate deceit, dishonesty, tyranny and ineptitude, we have endured and tolerated such traits for too long. More of the same I fear!

Well, heading stateside for a few weeks on holiday, hope you all do not do anything too rash in the meantime?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Mccambridge out for 3 months with concussion. Cushendall haven't fared to well from this county season!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2015, 07:36:57 PM
JK is a name I haven't heard of or seen in years? Was he cryogenically frozen deep in the bowels of casement for the last 20 years and has only just thawed out when the credit in the meter run out?

Would there be many out there that think he's an unfairly maligned individual?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2015, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Mccambridge out for 3 months with concussion. Cushendall haven't fared to well from this county season!

Its been terrible for them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 25, 2015, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 07:43:38 PM
I would say most would take a. imilar view to getevennotcross.

But hopefully express that view in a less boring manner. What an absolute bore! Who does he think he's kidding?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 25, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2015, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2015, 07:43:38 PM
I would say most would take a. imilar view to getevennotcross.

But hopefully express that view in a less boring manner. What an absolute bore! Who does he think he's kidding?
Ye ha! Some individuals just dont learn at all, do they?

Please spare me the indignity of having to spell things out to you. Where do you get off fella?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SaffronHeart on May 25, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
Is there any potential candidates that could unite the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 25, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 25, 2015, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Mccambridge out for 3 months with concussion. Cushendall haven't fared to well from this county season!

Its been terrible for them.
That's the price of sending your players to the county p ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2015, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 25, 2015, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2015, 07:31:48 PM
Mccambridge out for 3 months with concussion. Cushendall haven't fared to well from this county season!

Its been terrible for them.

Def, thats 3 main players all out with injury. Rotten luck for all of the lads as all 3 had been playing well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systems
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 26, 2015, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systemsch
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year

+1.... Pool of players is the problem. We simply do not have enough good teams or enough good players. Is there cause for optimism though?  Hear me out.... Across the county at 10 and below I've witnessed great scenes the past 2 years. Huge numbers of juveniles, decent coaching (an adult for every 5 or 6 kids), and the so called smaller clubs competing with the bigger clubs (Glenariffe being the prime example although there are others). For the love of god keep this going. Keep developing those coaches and most importantly keep the kids enjoying the training and games.You do get the odd club who thinks it's about winning at this age (good luck) but I've seen first hand, if kids are enjoying it, numbers are maintained and grow. I'm not saying it's perfect but it's a massive development from when I was a juvenile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 26, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 26, 2015, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Is there cause for optimism though?  Hear me out.... Across the county at 10 and below I've witnessed great scenes the past 2 years. Huge numbers of juveniles, decent coaching (an adult for every 5 or 6 kids), and the so called smaller clubs competing with the bigger clubs (Glenariffe being the prime example although there are others). For the love of god keep this going. Keep developing those coaches and most importantly keep the kids enjoying the training and games.You do get the odd club who thinks it's about winning at this age (good luck) but I've seen first hand, if kids are enjoying it, numbers are maintained and grow. I'm not saying it's perfect but it's a massive development from when I was a juvenile.

Hope to God this is true - last couple of weeks have been fairly grim :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on May 26, 2015, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systems
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year

The down teams are terrible. They have a huge start in the league every year as the majority of the three teams starting 15 are training and playing National League. Come August Antrim teams superior hurling shows. The obvious exception being in Owenbeg last October.

I think the standard of hurling player is pretty good across Div1 and there are certainly some classy players in Div2 however I know in our own club this year that we have taken a step back which I put down to poor coaching. We have looked of the pace and don't seem to have any system of play whatsoever. Cushendall I believe are in a similar predicament and now have injuries to contend with. Dunloy have the system but lacking players at the minute. Loughgiel currently have both which makes them hard to beat.

Fancy Derry to make a big push for Ulster this year with Dinny, Kieran O'Connell and Tom managing/coaching
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 26, 2015, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systems
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year

The down teams are terrible. They have a huge start in the league every year as the majority of the three teams starting 15 are training and playing National League. Come August Antrim teams superior hurling shows. The obvious exception being in Owenbeg last October.

I think the standard of hurling player is pretty good across Div1 and there are certainly some classy players in Div2 however I know in our own club this year that we have taken a step back which I put down to poor coaching. We have looked of the pace and don't seem to have any system of play whatsoever. Cushendall I believe are in a similar predicament and now have injuries to contend with. Dunloy have the system but lacking players at the minute. Loughgiel currently have both which makes them hard to beat.

Fancy Derry to make a big push for Ulster this year with Dinny, Kieran O'Connell and Tom managing/coaching

Down teams terrible
What club are current Ulster champions and what time of year  is the Ulster club semis and final played - no advantage there
If they are terrible then some suposebly big hitters in antrim are worse
It explains a lot at county level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2015, 08:03:16 AM
I don't think anyone can really dispute that there's been a drop in the standard of our club hurling.
The reasons for that are a different matter - but the drop in standard is staring us in the face.
I agree we have fantastic efforts going on in clubs at underage level but will this ever be translated to senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 27, 2015, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: Hurler24 on May 26, 2015, 04:21:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systems
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year

The down teams are terrible. They have a huge start in the league every year as the majority of the three teams starting 15 are training and playing National League. Come August Antrim teams superior hurling shows. The obvious exception being in Owenbeg last October.

I think the standard of hurling player is pretty good across Div1 and there are certainly some classy players in Div2 however I know in our own club this year that we have taken a step back which I put down to poor coaching. We have looked of the pace and don't seem to have any system of play whatsoever. Cushendall I believe are in a similar predicament and now have injuries to contend with. Dunloy have the system but lacking players at the minute. Loughgiel currently have both which makes them hard to beat.

Fancy Derry to make a big push for Ulster this year with Dinny, Kieran O'Connell and Tom managing/coaching

Whilst I think the standard of club hurling in Down is lower than it has been, in particular ourselves, I don't think Antrim clubs, barring a fully firing Loughgeil are any better no matter the time of year as Portaferry, who just staved off relegation, beat Cushendall at their leisure in Owenbeg, in fact the hardest game Portaferry had in the championship last year was against Ballycran.
One of the few 'top' teams we beat in the league last year was Ballycastle, who to my mind aren't what they think they are irrespective of who's managing them and the new dawn in the town may take a good few years to come to fruition if at all.

You'd be a fool to think that somehow come August and September there's a sudden vast improvement in the standard of club hurling in Antrim, thats just nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2015, 10:04:39 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 26, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 25, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Hopefully he gets it then.  So what's the moves if he does.  Who do you get to manage the team.  And what is are realistic goals?

Would a new manager make that big a difference
I think player and club hurling standards is a bigger problem
If you look at the league tables there are two down teams 2nd and 3rd in div 1
And a down team top of div 2
Bar LG the rest of the clubs are just not playing well
Is this player standards and lack of cohesive playing systems
Imm sure both down and derry are smelling blood for an Ulster this year

I think there is a bit of a panic on at the minute for no apparent reason, it is over 3 months before the serious stuff will be handed out.

That is more than enough time for any of the teams not playing well to up their game or those playing well now to drop their form.

IMO the individual skill level of players across all the clubs/teams has dramatically increased but this has not transferred itself into having a larger number of better quality teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 10:11:35 AM
We're definitely short of ball winners and natural forwards at the moment. Difficult to breed those. LG have the best stickwork across their panel by a fair stretch at the minute IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: orangeman on May 27, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrim-cant-be-allowed-slip-into-abyss-31256833.html


The good old days.

Antrim can't be allowed to fail but there are no ready made solutions. No blanket guarantee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
This from the article is one of our main priority's.

The Belfast question should be first on the agenda. The city is a virtual hurling wasteland, which requires the same focused attention that was given to Dublin. If it worked so well in Dublin, why not Belfast?
And even if it wasn't to be quite the same success story, there's still an awful lot that could be done to make Belfast a more active hurling city.

Theres so many people not playing the game or having the chance to. It would be great if every primary school in the city could be involved and kids getting coaching sessions. Christ i seen a video of hurling Germany and a GAA club there that has kids playing hurling each weekend and getting coached and playing in mini leagues against other teams in that city.

Jesus if kids in Germany can get the hurling bug and want to play it surely to god we can get up and get our kids involved?

Its not so much a country problem for some clubs as theres a natural attraction and progression to hurling in places like Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendal etc. its the life of these parishes and our one passion we all share as a community. Its getting that into Belfast and the kids there.

The people who are there working away tirelessly need help and much more of it if we are ever to get a thriving county of future hurling stars
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 11:30:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 27, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
This from the article is one of our main priority's.

The Belfast question should be first on the agenda. The city is a virtual hurling wasteland, which requires the same focused attention that was given to Dublin. If it worked so well in Dublin, why not Belfast?
And even if it wasn't to be quite the same success story, there's still an awful lot that could be done to make Belfast a more active hurling city.

Theres so many people not playing the game or having the chance to. It would be great if every primary school in the city could be involved and kids getting coaching sessions. Christ i seen a video of hurling Germany and a GAA club there that has kids playing hurling each weekend and getting coached and playing in mini leagues against other teams in that city.

Jesus if kids in Germany can get the hurling bug and want to play it surely to god we can get up and get our kids involved?

Its not so much a country problem for some clubs as theres a natural attraction and progression to hurling in places like Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendal etc. its the life of these parishes and our one passion we all share as a community. Its getting that into Belfast and the kids there.

The people who are there working away tirelessly need help and much more of it if we are ever to get a thriving county of future hurling stars

I think that would need to be teased out?

For example ... is the social cohesion there in the areas that the clubs operate in? Is every club set-up, of the standard that would make them attractive to new people to come in with their kids and get involved? Are clubs geared up with the right number of people to run the sports with the right level quality coaching to make new parents feel their kids are having a positive experience.

Reality is that no club can put a BIG tick beside any off those boxes, but some are better than others and even the experiences within a club can swing widely depending on the mentors involved with them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2015, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 27, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
This from the article is one of our main priority's.

The Belfast question should be first on the agenda. The city is a virtual hurling wasteland, which requires the same focused attention that was given to Dublin. If it worked so well in Dublin, why not Belfast?
And even if it wasn't to be quite the same success story, there's still an awful lot that could be done to make Belfast a more active hurling city.

Theres so many people not playing the game or having the chance to. It would be great if every primary school in the city could be involved and kids getting coaching sessions.

I very much agree. By the time a youngster is in secondary school the boat has sailed. I know first hand from family association that what passes for hurling development (some by paid people) in the primary schools is just not good enough - and totally incomparable to what I know happens in Waterford for example. The days of teachers in schools driving this are gone. There's very few males left in our primary schools, and those who try to drive things (including females) are handicapped by financial constraints and a toxic mix of health and safety and bureaucracy. Leaving aside the Bunscoil sector - the "hurling wasteland" is typified in primary schools. Easy problem to identify - I'm just not so sure how to fix it!


Christ i seen a video of hurling Germany and a GAA club there that has kids playing hurling each weekend and getting coached and playing in mini leagues against other teams in that city.

Jesus if kids in Germany can get the hurling bug and want to play it surely to god we can get up and get our kids involved?

Its not so much a country problem for some clubs as theres a natural attraction and progression to hurling in places like Loughgiel, Dunloy, Cushendal etc. its the life of these parishes and our one passion we all share as a community. Its getting that into Belfast and the kids there.

The people who are there working away tirelessly need help and much more of it if we are ever to get a thriving county of future hurling stars
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Looking forward to the first St Johns v Rossa game since 2013. Having read the football thread and noticed a number of injuries to some of Rossa's main players I would fancy a St Johns win here. The experience of being Division one last year should also stand to the Johnnies. Hoping for a tight game nonetheless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Looking forward to the first St Johns v Rossa game since 2013. Having read the football thread and noticed a number of injuries to some of Rossa's main players I would fancy a St Johns win here. The experience of being Division one last year should also stand to the Johnnies. Hoping for a tight game nonetheless.

Rossa should win this pulling up considering all they have done lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JWhxK.png)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JWhxK.png)

Just saying lyk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2015, 02:42:04 PM
St Johns V Rossa.
I'm going for a home win in a low scoring game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Id go for St Johns win and at least 1 red card each. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
St. Johns by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 09:17:34 PM
Loughgiel 1:18 Ahoghill 0:09.  Only a point in it at half time, a very young Loughgiel team pushed on in the 2nd half in hard conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
Am hearing St. John's beat Rossa also.  Any Belfast men here know the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on May 27, 2015, 09:45:08 PM
1-16 to 1-4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 27, 2015, 09:40:38 PM
We were chinned.
????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
Chinned down our way means beat by a narrow margin,  Maybe even against the run of play.  So I was just looking a little more info.  Wasn't meaning to be smart.That will keep MR2 happy now anyway  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on May 27, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
Cushendall beating dunloy good result considering tithe players they missing . How long did lgiel play with 14 men for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
Chinned down our way means beat by a narrow margin,  Maybe even against the run of play.  So I was just looking a little more info.  Wasn't meaning to be smart.That will keep MR2 happy now anyway  :o

Shocked!! I've always liked Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on May 27, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
ive been coaching underage in the club for a long time now. i have to say that honestly i would quit in the morning if i was told that the current trend will continue for much longer.fellas are coached from 6 & 7 years old by their clubs.they evolve into great hurlers & are invited to play with the county. im sorry but i cant  support any proposal where a hurler is effectively prevented from playing with his club from october of one year til aug (at best ) the clubs nurture  these players and the thanks they get is being told to mind their own business & just deal with it. i dont care what anyone says. if you cud look into a crystal ball & tell me that my club would win an all ireland club next but the price to pay was antrim never winning another game again. i'd tear your arm off.l'guile have shown that the dream is possible. which is more probable in antrim now. a club all ireland or one with the county??? now i'll sit back & wait for the torrent of abuse about being a traitor....blah blah blah. save me the flannel. the county team will never be any better until the clubs ( & i mean more of the clubs,not just 2 or 3) are better. people say dunloy are no good without shorty & woddy. c'dall mc manus graffin etc etc etc. the point is they shouldnt have to be any good without them. the players are club players representing their club at county level. they arent county players who clubs should be privileged to have when the county give the say so. the whole situation is scandalous.another note of caution bout throwing all our lot into leinster at underage. would that mean a good u16 hurler training 2nights a week with antrim, then travelling to kilkenny on a saturday ( as you would have no home fixtures) when would these lads get to play with their club?????     IMO we all need to ask ourselves what is a fair price to pay for rubert murdochs affection &  riches??? surely not the ruination of our clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Eddie sent of in the 2nd half.  What was the full time score between dunloy and c,dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: auld stock on May 27, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
ive been coaching underage in the club for a long time now. i have to say that honestly i would quit in the morning if i was told that the current trend will continue for much longer.fellas are coached from 6 & 7 years old by their clubs.they evolve into great hurlers & are invited to play with the county. im sorry but i cant  support any proposal where a hurler is effectively prevented from playing with his club from october of one year til aug (at best ) the clubs nurture  these players and the thanks they get is being told to mind their own business & just deal with it. i dont care what anyone says. if you cud look into a crystal ball & tell me that my club would win an all ireland club next but the price to pay was antrim never winning another game again. i'd tear your arm off.l'guile have shown that the dream is possible. which is more probable in antrim now. a club all ireland or one with the county??? now i'll sit back & wait for the torrent of abuse about being a traitor....blah blah blah. save me the flannel. the county team will never be any better until the clubs ( & i mean more of the clubs,not just 2 or 3) are better. people say dunloy are no good without shorty & woddy. c'dall mc manus graffin etc etc etc. the point is they shouldnt have to be any good without them. the players are club players representing their club at county level. they arent county players who clubs should be privileged to have when the county give the say so. the whole situation is scandalous.another note of caution bout throwing all our lot into leinster at underage. would that mean a good u16 hurler training 2nights a week with antrim, then travelling to kilkenny on a saturday ( as you would have no home fixtures) when would these lads get to play with their club?????     IMO we all need to ask ourselves what is a fair price to pay for rubert murdochs affection &  riches??? surely not the ruination of our clubs.
you are 110% right. Fair play.  I've said pretty close to this before also. It's club before county and if your fit to tog for the county well and good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2015, 11:25:55 PM
There's no doubt about it, the length of the county season, its impact on regular club competitions and then there's the training requirements on the players themselves. This national model isn't working out for us. We don't have the hurling population or the motivation levels to properly sustain IC desires. Club fixtures have gotten so bitty, supporters are finding other things to do. I'd also prefer a period where clubs be given preference so our talented hurlers can enjoy their hurling and not feel like abject failures because there's simply not the want in enough people to get our game up to the standards of say the likes of Dublin or Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2015, 12:10:17 AM
Those posts are music to my ears as they are the same points I have been making for a long time.

Corrigan was one way traffic - Rossa goal just before half time seemed like a life-line but the johnnies blew them away in the 2nd half as they had threatened to do in the 1st.
Physically stronger, worked harder off the ball, and basic stick work much better.
I did say the johnnies were that notional top belfast team!
Not much of a crowd at the game which was never that intense even after a red card for Rossa defender which barely ruffled St. John's feathers.

Good to see the club scene back despite the damage done to it by our county system.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 28, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Eddie sent of in the 2nd half.  What was the full time score between dunloy and c,dall

3-08 to 1-07

we are utter kack at the moment. Cdall were poor but we were that bad it wouldnt of mattered how bad the Dall played we were never winning it.

I said we wouldnt count this year and this now confirms it unless some massive change comes in the way were playing i dont have any hope for us this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 28, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Have to agree with that, C'dall where very poor, just thankfully Dunloy where even worse.

Granted both teams where missing some good hurlers, but it doesn't bode well for either team this year IMHO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on May 28, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Looking forward to the first St Johns v Rossa game since 2013. Having read the football thread and noticed a number of injuries to some of Rossa's main players I would fancy a St Johns win here. The experience of being Division one last year should also stand to the Johnnies. Hoping for a tight game nonetheless.

Rossa should win this pulling up considering all they have done lately

On the money as usual MR2, your hair must be getting in your eyes and impairing your judgement  ;) 

Johnnies at a canter last night, even we were shocked how poor Rossa were, no fight, resistance or application from them, so unlike them and not good to see from especially a Belfast and Antrim hurling perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2015, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: The Memory Man on May 28, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on May 27, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
Looking forward to the first St Johns v Rossa game since 2013. Having read the football thread and noticed a number of injuries to some of Rossa's main players I would fancy a St Johns win here. The experience of being Division one last year should also stand to the Johnnies. Hoping for a tight game nonetheless.

Rossa should win this pulling up considering all they have done lately

On the money as usual MR2, your hair must be getting in your eyes and impairing your judgement   ;) 

Johnnies at a canter last night, even we were shocked how poor Rossa were, no fight, resistance or application from them, so unlike them and not good to see from especially a Belfast and Antrim hurling perspective.

Skull put this underneath my post!! hmmm

(http://i.imgur.com/JWhxK.png)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1gd0inIjQ1qfrrv2o1_500.png)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Memory Man on May 28, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 28, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1gd0inIjQ1qfrrv2o1_500.png)  ;D
:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 28, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Eddie sent of in the 2nd half.  What was the full time score between dunloy and c,dall

3-08 to 1-07

we are utter kack at the moment. Cdall were poor but we were that bad it wouldnt of mattered how bad the Dall played we were never winning it.

I said we wouldnt count this year and this now confirms it unless some massive change comes in the way were playing i dont have any hope for us this season.
its very early yet to be making those kind of statements
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 28, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
My goodness Laois hurling in shock. Club v county again to the fore!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Sack Ryan. Hire plunket and ruin another good manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 28, 2015, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Sack Ryan. Hire plunket and ruin another good manager.

LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 28, 2015, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 28, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Eddie sent of in the 2nd half.  What was the full time score between dunloy and c,dall

3-08 to 1-07

we are utter kack at the moment. Cdall were poor but we were that bad it wouldnt of mattered how bad the Dall played we were never winning it.

I said we wouldnt count this year and this now confirms it unless some massive change comes in the way were playing i dont have any hope for us this season.
its very early yet to be making those kind of statements

i know but this has been carried on from the previous season. I get why we want to play like that but we dont have the players to do so.

Still i will standing like an edjit in August expecting us to win it like every other year  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 28, 2015, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 28, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 28, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on May 27, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
Eddie sent of in the 2nd half.  What was the full time score between dunloy and c,dall

3-08 to 1-07

we are utter kack at the moment. Cdall were poor but we were that bad it wouldnt of mattered how bad the Dall played we were never winning it.

I said we wouldnt count this year and this now confirms it unless some massive change comes in the way were playing i dont have any hope for us this season.
its very early yet to be making those kind of statements

i know but this has been carried on from the previous season. I get why we want to play like that but we dont have the players to do so.

Still i will standing like an edjit in August expecting us to win it like every other year  ;D
BELIEVE  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
I'm in the keep the faith camp (not the BELIEVE camp  ;)) myself. We've a bit to go no doubt, but I think if we stick together we can pull ourselves up and out of the mire and show that there's more in us thats not coming out at the minute. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2015, 11:03:23 PM
Youse are a 'graded' team ffs!! Would be a shambles if yas didn't make it  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Haha. I don't believe a word of this doom and gloom coming out from over the shough. Come championship time yous will be there or thereabouts. Very early days yet. A better gauge will come in late July onwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
Damn..found out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2015, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Haha. I don't believe a word of this doom and gloom coming out from over the shough. Come championship time yous will be there or thereabouts. Very early days yet. A better gauge will come in late July onwards.

were playing kack on purpose, our rouse has been foiled lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2015, 06:02:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 29, 2015, 05:26:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Haha. I don't believe a word of this doom and gloom coming out from over the shough. Come championship time yous will be there or thereabouts. Very early days yet. A better gauge will come in late July onwards.

were playing kack on purpose, our rouse has been foiled lol
I've seen and heard it before lads. It's a load of nonsense this time of the year. But sure keep going, it's giving me laughs.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on May 31, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Ballycran 0-13 ballycastle 3-14 great result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on May 31, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Ballycran 0-13 ballycastle 3-14 great result
Indeed. Never the easiest place to go get a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on May 31, 2015, 05:49:22 PM
Ruairi Og 2-15 Portaferry 0-18
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on May 31, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on May 31, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Ballycran 0-13 ballycastle 3-14 great result

Is indeed, great to see. Is a long day heading away down to Ballycran, makes it worth it when you come back home with the two points 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 31, 2015, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on May 31, 2015, 05:49:22 PM
Ruairi Og 2-15 Portaferry 0-18
good result for the Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on May 31, 2015, 07:11:31 PM
So, we are the whipping boys of Ulster football and the whipping boys of Leinster and Liam McCarthy.  Surely time for a revolution now, we cant go on like this!  Bloody marvellous eh. I think I'll take up residence in Tipp when I get back from USA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on May 31, 2015, 09:29:52 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on May 31, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on May 31, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Ballycran 0-13 ballycastle 3-14 great result

Is indeed, great to see. Is a long day heading away down to Ballycran, makes it worth it when you come back home with the two points 😊

Great result is right Bonamargy - delighted for them. Hope they can kick on now. Nothing better for confidence than an away win down in Ards. Well done to all involved. Great boost ahead of the Shams in 10 days.

Will enjoy my pint tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 04, 2015, 09:54:24 PM
Slightly off tangent and I know we've covered this but I just left casement.
So we all know how bad the situation is but honestly to stand and look around the place is just shameful and sinful. Next time any of you are around take a walk in. I guarantee it will hit home all the more. It feels like a relative's wake when you're actually standing in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2015, 11:20:13 PM
The longer it was a viable venue for some/99% of games, the more difficult it would be to sell the idea of it needing such a grotesque modernization.

That's my read on it anyway.

The whole idea that a revamped casement would be good for Antrim is laughable. We've a greater need for an Owenbeg more than a Croke park lite
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2015, 11:20:13 PM
The longer it was a viable venue for some/99% of games, the more difficult it would be to sell the idea of it needing such a grotesque modernization.

That's my read on it anyway.

The whole idea that a revamped casement would be good for Antrim is laughable. We've a greater need for an Owenbeg more than a Croke park lite
Dunsilly flying too...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on June 05, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
According to the County Chairman at the last County Committee meeting Dunsilly is due to recommence on 16th June but you might see pigs flying in and out of Aldergrove.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 05, 2015, 08:51:32 AM
I heard a few weeks ago to expect some big news with regards to Dunsilly. That was weeks ago and still nothing.

Passed it on the train yesterday evening again. Still looks the same it did 6 months ago with no chance and no a sinner about it.

Such a waste as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 06, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: glensgael on June 05, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
According to the County Chairman at the last County Committee meeting Dunsilly is due to recommence on 16th June but you might see pigs flying in and out of Aldergrove.
Very defeatist, pessimistic, negative and despondent Glensgael, sure we can live in hope  I say, cant we?  Things can only get better, sure they could not be any worse than they are presently?  Sure the Shinners will make everything all right, given they are saying they have been at Casement Park frequently cheering on the boys and supporting our teams etc.  Who are they trying to kid? - Not this Gael for one! Again they jump on the bandwagon and continue to live of the backs of the decent people in the west Belfast community, sheisters the lot of them!  I don't know who is worse in this regard, County Exec.  Ulster Council, Croke Park or the Shinners?  Roger Casement, Mick Collins, Sean McDermott, Tomás Clarke et al, would be turning in their graves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2015, 09:06:13 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 06, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: glensgael on June 05, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
According to the County Chairman at the last County Committee meeting Dunsilly is due to recommence on 16th June but you might see pigs flying in and out of Aldergrove.
Very defeatist, pessimistic, negative and despondent Glensgael, sure we can live in hope  I say, cant we?  Things can only get better, sure they could not be any worse than they are presently?  Sure the Shinners will make everything all right, given they are saying they have been at Casement Park frequently cheering on the boys and supporting our teams etc.  Who are they trying to kid? - Not this Gael for one! Again they jump on the bandwagon and continue to live of the backs of the decent people in the west Belfast community, sheisters the lot of them!  I don't know who is worse in this regard, County Exec.  Ulster Council, Croke Park or the Shinners?  Roger Casement, Mick Collins, Sean McDermott, Tomás Clarke et al, would be turning in their graves.
and there but for the grace of God, goes God.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 07, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2015, 09:06:13 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 06, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: glensgael on June 05, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
According to the County Chairman at the last County Committee meeting Dunsilly is due to recommence on 16th June but you might see pigs flying in and out of Aldergrove.
Very defeatist, pessimistic, negative and despondent Glensgael, sure we can live in hope  I say, cant we?  Things can only get better, sure they could not be any worse than they are presently?  Sure the Shinners will make everything all right, given they are saying they have been at Casement Park frequently cheering on the boys and supporting our teams etc.  Who are they trying to kid? - Not this Gael for one! Again they jump on the bandwagon and continue to live of the backs of the decent people in the west Belfast community, sheisters the lot of them!  I don't know who is worse in this regard, County Exec.  Ulster Council, Croke Park or the Shinners?  Roger Casement, Mick Collins, Sean McDermott, Tomás Clarke et al, would be turning in their graves.
and there but for the grace of God, goes God.
And there for the grace of God goes another traitor who's club do not commit its players to the county, yet you are one of the first to lambast, criticise and demean those who do!  Always first to condemn those how turn out and when the results go against them. Tut, tut, tut!  People in glass houses springs to mind.

On a lighter note, I have been a Tipp fan all my life, but fair play to the Déise putting the Rebels to the sword today. I didn't see the game but heard they were impressive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 07, 2015, 11:44:22 PM
Just home from thurles.
Waterford were awesome. What was most impressive was how they reacted (or didn't react) to a poor start.
Austin gleeson is just 19 years old.
If Waterford win Munster then I think the confidence will boost them for a real shout for Liam mac!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
Hey getevennotcross, I haven't posted about the county or any of the players in months. Get with the times. And as for our players not going to the county, as far as I'm aware we've two players on the county panel. Youd  do well to get to know the facts before you go about posting s**te on these boards.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 07, 2015, 11:44:22 PM
Just home from thurles.
Waterford were awesome. What was most impressive was how they reacted (or didn't react) to a poor start.
Austin gleeson is just 19 years old.
If Waterford win Munster then I think the confidence will boost them for a real shout for Liam mac!

Watched it on TV
Very impressive and all this without O Mahony
The are young and well drilled and very fit
They cover a lot of ground and physical
I thought cork played ok but waterford where awesome
All ireland in them for sure
As for dublin what's going on there
They have a tipp kerry and galway player on there panel
Where's all the players that has so much invested in them

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 08, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
Hey getevennotcross, I haven't posted about the county or any of the players in months. Get with the times. And as for our players not going to the county, as far as I'm aware we've two players on the county panel. Youd  do well to get to know the facts before you go about posting s**te on these boards.  ;)
Ah stop your prevarication wud ya, two players, what about the rest?

I'm delighted you now confirm and acknowledge you have posted regarding players and the performance of the county team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 08, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 08, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
Hey getevennotcross, I haven't posted about the county or any of the players in months. Get with the times. And as for our players not going to the county, as far as I'm aware we've two players on the county panel. Youd  do well to get to know the facts before you go about posting s**te on these boards.  ;)
Ah stop your prevarication wud ya, two players, what about the rest?

I'm delighted you now confirm and acknowledge you have posted regarding players and the performance of the county team.
the rest? Whoever do you mean? As far as I'm aware unless they are selected they can't play. I have commented on the County Team, along with everyone else on here. Might I remind you of the thread name: "Antrim hurling". Just saying like.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Shamrocks to beat The Town
Narrow win for the Johnnies at Milltown
Dunloy to beat Rossa
Narrow win for Ballycran at Clooney Gaels

Carey & St Pauls perhaps home advantage midweek might edge it.
Ballygalget should win but it's one of their few tougher games
Armoy could put a final nail in Sarsfields season (sad to see their decline after recent advances)
Cloughmills to beat Cushendun
Oisin's to beat Gort Na Mona

If work commitments permit I will take a trip down to Milltown myself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 10, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Shamrocks to beat The Town
Narrow win for the Johnnies at Milltown
Dunloy to beat Rossa
Narrow win for Ballycran at Clooney Gaels

Carey & St Pauls perhaps home advantage midweek might edge it.
Ballygalget should win but it's one of their few tougher games
Armoy could put a final nail in Sarsfields season (sad to see their decline after recent advances)
Cloughmills to beat Cushendun
Oisin's to beat Gort Na Mona

If work commitments permit I will take a trip down to Milltown myself.

We might struggle tonight due to an injury epidemic and el magico's suspension, I think we'd 18 players in Cushendun on sunday..

Creggan may catch us out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 10, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Shamrocks to beat The Town
Narrow win for the Johnnies at Milltown
Dunloy to beat Rossa
Narrow win for Ballycran at Clooney Gaels

Carey & St Pauls perhaps home advantage midweek might edge it.
Ballygalget should win but it's one of their few tougher games
Armoy could put a final nail in Sarsfields season (sad to see their decline after recent advances)
Cloughmills to beat Cushendun
Oisin's to beat Gort Na Mona

If work commitments permit I will take a trip down to Milltown myself.

More or less agree, I think we will get a draw v Loughgiel 😉and Carey should beat St Paul's. What's up with Sarsfields? They should be winning at home V Armoy as well??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 10, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
Shamrocks to beat The Town
Narrow win for the Johnnies at Milltown
Dunloy to beat Rossa
Narrow win for Ballycran at Clooney Gaels

Carey & St Pauls perhaps home advantage midweek might edge it.
Ballygalget should win but it's one of their few tougher games
Armoy could put a final nail in Sarsfields season (sad to see their decline after recent advances)
Cloughmills to beat Cushendun
Oisin's to beat Gort Na Mona

If work commitments permit I will take a trip down to Milltown myself.

More or less agree, I think we will get a draw v Loughgiel 😉and Carey should beat St Paul's. What's up with Sarsfields? They should be winning at home V Armoy as well??

I agree Sarsfields should win if they get their numbers out but they seem to have been struggling a little lately form not the best. Hopefully they'll pick up.
I would be hopeful St Pauls might get a result solely due to Carey having to travel midweek.

Greta to see a busy a few club games strung together for a change. Then it won't be long before the Championship preparations roll in to gear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2015, 09:37:06 PM
Well thanks be to God I'm not a gambler!
So many wacky results tonight!
St John's won handy enough in Milltown - always that bit ahead and kept out of reach.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2015, 09:42:33 PM
Where are the results at for div 1? Not on county website...

Johnney not as tight as you thought.

Edit: d'oh scroll down...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on June 10, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Ballycastle 1-14 loughuile 1-16 close game , better performance from the last game against them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 11, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2015, 09:42:33 PM
Where are the results at for div 1? Not on county website...

Johnney not as tight as you thought.

Edit: d'oh scroll down...

Weren't sure how our young team would fare away from home on a Wednesday evening at a team who are going rightly, but they're gradually building confidence as the year goes on after the pitiful performances we put in last year.

Div2 may have been a blessing in disguise, but two years (minimum) could become a hindrance. St Galls  ;) and Clooney will lift the standard a bit next year and if we're good enough we'll get out of it, if we're not, we won't and we'll deserve to be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Great result for Rossa!
Shocking run of results for Dunloy?
Just noticed we are stuck with bog ball on the box this weekend - and I can't make any club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Great result for Rossa!
Shocking run of results for Dunloy?
Just noticed we are stuck with bog ball on the box this weekend - and I can't make any club hurling.

Great result for Rossa and that will seal ours and Clooney Gaels fate.....Rossa fighting on both fronts at senior, the glory days are back it seems... but in fairness the Johnnies, ourselves and Rossa doing rightly as dual clubs go, bar Dublin super clubs there wouldn't be too many clubs playing in Div one in both codes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oakleafgael on June 11, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Great result for Rossa!
Shocking run of results for Dunloy?
Just noticed we are stuck with bog ball on the box this weekend - and I can't make any club hurling.

Great result for Rossa and that will seal ours and Clooney Gaels fate.....Rossa fighting on both fronts at senior, the glory days are back it seems... but in fairness the Johnnies, ourselves and Rossa doing rightly as dual clubs go, bar Dublin super clubs there wouldn't be too many clubs playing in Div one in both codes

Slaughtneil make a right good go of it, as do Lavey and Dungiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2015, 12:17:43 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 11, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Great result for Rossa!
Shocking run of results for Dunloy?
Just noticed we are stuck with bog ball on the box this weekend - and I can't make any club hurling.

Great result for Rossa and that will seal ours and Clooney Gaels fate.....Rossa fighting on both fronts at senior, the glory days are back it seems... but in fairness the Johnnies, ourselves and Rossa doing rightly as dual clubs go, bar Dublin super clubs there wouldn't be too many clubs playing in Div one in both codes

Slaughtneil make a right good go of it, as do Lavey and Dungiven.

Are Dungiven not two seperate clubs?  ;) Better not let any of the Kevin Lynches men hear you calling them Dungiven be war sur.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oakleafgael on June 11, 2015, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2015, 12:17:43 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on June 11, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 10, 2015, 09:58:15 PM
Much better performance from us tonight but still lucky enough to get the 2 points. We probably shaded it over all but Dunloy hit the post with a free in the last second.

Draw would have been fair
Considering the point that never was but no real complaints about result
Can you tell what our free taker done wrong on the 65 to turn it into a throw ball

Great result for Rossa!
Shocking run of results for Dunloy?
Just noticed we are stuck with bog ball on the box this weekend - and I can't make any club hurling.

Great result for Rossa and that will seal ours and Clooney Gaels fate.....Rossa fighting on both fronts at senior, the glory days are back it seems... but in fairness the Johnnies, ourselves and Rossa doing rightly as dual clubs go, bar Dublin super clubs there wouldn't be too many clubs playing in Div one in both codes

Slaughtneil make a right good go of it, as do Lavey and Dungiven.

Are Dungiven not two seperate clubs?  ;) Better not let any of the Kevin Lynches men hear you calling them Dungiven be war sur.

They are indeed NAG, but only when it suits them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
The Dublin super clubs operate more or less from two separate panels with a sprinkling of dual players - such is their luxury.
There is only eight hurling clubs in Derry and parish advantage helps also most of the gaa is in south Derry so it's a cluster rather than the miles our clubs need to cover for games. I think both help.
I do believe the city clubs deserve credit for fostering both codes in challenging environments.
That said - it's not the same as actually winning trophies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2015, 08:38:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
The Dublin super clubs operate more or less from two separate panels with a sprinkling of dual players - such is their luxury.
There is only eight hurling clubs in Derry and parish advantage helps also most of the gaa is in south Derry so it's a cluster rather than the miles our clubs need to cover for games. I think both help.
I do believe the city clubs deserve credit for fostering both codes in challenging environments.
That said - it's not the same as actually winning trophies!

We've won the odd championship  :o. Lacking a single hurling one though :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Agreed MR2 - I was talking about hurling.
Sure anyone can kick a football  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Agreed MR2 - I was talking about hurling.
Sure anyone can kick a football  ;)

ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 12, 2015, 01:34:25 PM
Predictions for this weekend: I don't see too many tight games apart from St Johns V Ballycran and Dunloy V ourselves. What do you think?

Division 1
Loughgiel V Portaferry - Loughgiel by 5
Clooney V Rossa - Rossa by 6
St John's V Ballycran - Ballycran by 3
Cushendall V St Galls - Cushendall by 10
Dunloy V Mac Uilin - Town by 2

Division 2
Creggan V St Paul's - Creggan by 15
Sarsfields V Carey - Sarsfields by 8
Cloughmills V Armoy - Cloughmills by 6
Cushendun V Gortnamona - Gortnamona by 7
Glenariffe V Ballygalget - Ballygalget by 7

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2015, 03:21:53 PM
Dont see any tight games this weekend IMO. i dont think we will beat Ballycastle from what ive seen this year and we play Lgiel next week as well. Oh joy! haha

Division 1
Loughgiel V Portaferry - Loughgiel by 10
Clooney V Rossa - Rossa by 6
St John's V Ballycran - Ballycran by 6
Cushendall V St Galls - Cushendall by 10
Dunloy V Mac Uilin - Town by 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 12, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Agreed MR2 - I was talking about hurling.
Sure anyone can kick a football  ;)

ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sure, so many of them have taken the 'Foot' out of football they no longer need to kick it.  So a lot of them in my experience cant kick the ball either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 12, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Agreed MR2 - I was talking about hurling.
Sure anyone can kick a football  ;)

ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sure, so many of them have taken the 'Foot' out of football they no longer need to kick it.  So a lot of them in my experience cant kick the ball either.

True. Just don't say that on the football thread!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 12, 2015, 01:34:25 PM
Predictions for this weekend: I don't see too many tight games apart from St Johns V Ballycran and Dunloy V ourselves. What do you think?

Division 1
Loughgiel V Portaferry - Loughgiel by 5
Clooney V Rossa - Rossa by 6
St John's V Ballycran - Ballycran by 3
Cushendall V St Galls - Cushendall by 10
Dunloy V Mac Uilin - Town by 2

Division 2
Creggan V St Paul's - Creggan by 15
Sarsfields V Carey - Sarsfields by 8
Cloughmills V Armoy - Cloughmills by 6
Cushendun V Gortnamona - Gortnamona by 7
Glenariffe V Ballygalget - Ballygalget by 7

Wins for:
Loughgiel
Rossa
Cushendall
I think the Town could make dunloy's troubles worse.
Fancy the johnnies could take 2points off ballycran also!

Division 2 wins I think for creggan cloughmills sarsfields  GNM ballygalget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 12, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 12, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Agreed MR2 - I was talking about hurling.
Sure anyone can kick a football  ;)

ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Sure, so many of them have taken the 'Foot' out of football they no longer need to kick it.  So a lot of them in my experience cant kick the ball either.

True. Just don't say that on the football thread!

Concentrating on Scor this year... Think there's an All Ireland in us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 13, 2015, 07:57:04 PM
Great game this afternoon against the Ulster champions. Portaferry were up 6 points at half time but the shamrocks played out of their skins in the second half to end up 7 point winners. 3-15 to 2-11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 14, 2015, 12:40:25 PM
Just got hit with a call out so no games today - put any results if posters are online!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on June 14, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Ruairi Og 4-29 St Galls 0-7

Both teams missing at least 6 or 7 (Ruairi Ogs - Ryan McCambridge, Aaron Graffin, Sean Delargy, Paddy McNaughton, Shane McNaughton, Eunan McKillop and Neil McManus).

St Galls at a glance (Karl Stewart, CJ McGourty, Antoin McCafferty, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean McAreavey).

Ruairi Og were never really troubled and played some nice hurling in stages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
have to admit im a happier man after watching ydays game. beat Ballycastle 0-16 to 0-09 with shorty scoring 0-13 of our total.

Great day for a match and nice to see us win both reserve and senior for a change. Decent enough match but both teams seemed to be holding back a bit. I still see problems with the way we are playing and we let Ballycastle rattle off a few scores at the end of the first half when we seemed comfortable.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 14, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Ruairi Og 4-29 St Galls 0-7

Both teams missing at least 6 or 7 (Ruairi Ogs - Ryan McCambridge, Aaron Graffin, Sean Delargy, Paddy McNaughton, Shane McNaughton, Eunan McKillop and Neil McManus).

St Galls at a glance (Karl Stewart, CJ McGourty, Antoin McCafferty, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean McAreavey).

Ruairi Og were never really troubled and played some nice hurling in stages.

MR2 what is the story with so many missing for you guys are they injured/ suspended?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 14, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Ruairi Og 4-29 St Galls 0-7

Both teams missing at least 6 or 7 (Ruairi Ogs - Ryan McCambridge, Aaron Graffin, Sean Delargy, Paddy McNaughton, Shane McNaughton, Eunan McKillop and Neil McManus).

St Galls at a glance (Karl Stewart, CJ McGourty, Antoin McCafferty, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean McAreavey).

Ruairi Og were never really troubled and played some nice hurling in stages.

MR2 what is the story with so many missing for you guys are they injured/ suspended?

It's hard to say, I've only been at a couple games myself, have not bothered this year due to work committments (haven't refereed either this year) but we are under new management and hoping that things bed down before Championship, the results (no results ) are poor but the players that have taken this club through the last load of years are getting old, all in their 30's so injuries and the other committments may also be factors for this... we've a few good young lads on the team but when playing away from home ya need the old experienced heads on the team....

Wish I could be more optimistic but did mention this before the season started
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 14, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Ruairi Og 4-29 St Galls 0-7

Both teams missing at least 6 or 7 (Ruairi Ogs - Ryan McCambridge, Aaron Graffin, Sean Delargy, Paddy McNaughton, Shane McNaughton, Eunan McKillop and Neil McManus).

St Galls at a glance (Karl Stewart, CJ McGourty, Antoin McCafferty, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean McAreavey).

Ruairi Og were never really troubled and played some nice hurling in stages.

MR2 what is the story with so many missing for you guys are they injured/ suspended?

It's hard to say, I've only been at a couple games myself, have not bothered this year due to work committments (haven't refereed either this year) but we are under new management and hoping that things bed down before Championship, the results (no results ) are poor but the players that have taken this club through the last load of years are getting old, all in their 30's so injuries and the other committments may also be factors for this... we've a few good young lads on the team but when playing away from home ya need the old experienced heads on the team....

Wish I could be more optimistic but did mention this before the season started

Tongue firmly back in cheek then about the Belfast super club comment  ;) Hardly what we would call competing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2015, 11:23:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on June 14, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Ruairi Og 4-29 St Galls 0-7

Both teams missing at least 6 or 7 (Ruairi Ogs - Ryan McCambridge, Aaron Graffin, Sean Delargy, Paddy McNaughton, Shane McNaughton, Eunan McKillop and Neil McManus).

St Galls at a glance (Karl Stewart, CJ McGourty, Antoin McCafferty, Sean Burke, Aodhan Gallagher and Sean McAreavey).

Ruairi Og were never really troubled and played some nice hurling in stages.

MR2 what is the story with so many missing for you guys are they injured/ suspended?

It's hard to say, I've only been at a couple games myself, have not bothered this year due to work committments (haven't refereed either this year) but we are under new management and hoping that things bed down before Championship, the results (no results ) are poor but the players that have taken this club through the last load of years are getting old, all in their 30's so injuries and the other committments may also be factors for this... we've a few good young lads on the team but when playing away from home ya need the old experienced heads on the team....

Wish I could be more optimistic but did mention this before the season started

Tongue firmly back in cheek then about the Belfast super club comment  ;) Hardly what we would call competing.

It was Dublin super clubs but hey  ::)  Dire straights looking at the scoreline. I was going to bring the family dowm for the day seeing as it was grand weather hmmmm, glad I didn't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2015, 08:56:09 PM
Good win tonight... Ballycastle must not have travelled too well tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on June 15, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Division 1 Hurling
Ghaeil Chluanaidh   2-15   1-19   O`Donovan Rossa   
St John's GAC   2-26   2-17   Ballycran      
Ruairí Óg   4-29   0-8   Naomh Gall
Cuchullains-Dunloy   0-16   0-9   Mac Uilin CLG

Division 2 Hurling
Creggan Kickhams   1-17   2-7   Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls
Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields   1-11   1-18   Cathaoir an Rí      
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn   3-11   0-11   Glen Rovers   
Robert Emmets Cushendun   0-7   1-15   Gort na Móna CLG      
Glenariffe Oisin CLG   2-18   1-19   Ballygalget

Division 3 Hurling
St Mary's Rasharkin   10-37   1-2   O`Donnells   
Naomh Éanna   1-17   0-9   Lamh Dhearg
Shane Uí Néill   3-6   2-23   Tír Na nÓg Randalstown       
Bredagh   4-17   0-10   Con Magees

high scoring games this weekend especially in division 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 15, 2015, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 15, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Division 1 Hurling
Ghaeil Chluanaidh   2-15   1-19   O`Donovan Rossa   
St John's GAC   2-26   2-17   Ballycran      
Ruairí Óg   4-29   0-8   Naomh Gall
Cuchullains-Dunloy   0-16   0-9   Mac Uilin CLG

Division 2 Hurling
Creggan Kickhams   1-17   2-7   Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls
Na Sairseil/Patrick Sarsfields   1-11   1-18   Cathaoir an Rí      
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn   3-11   0-11   Glen Rovers   
Robert Emmets Cushendun   0-7   1-15   Gort na Móna CLG      
Glenariffe Oisin CLG   2-18   1-19   Ballygalget

Division 3 Hurling
St Mary's Rasharkin   10-37   1-2   O`Donnells   
Naomh Éanna   1-17   0-9   Lamh Dhearg
Shane Uí Néill   3-6   2-23   Tír Na nÓg Randalstown       
Bredagh   4-17   0-10   Con Magees

high scoring games this weekend especially in division 3
Not really worthy of comment on here tbh :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2015, 06:50:51 PM
St Galls v C'Dall off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
Fantastic display from Waterford U21s winning in Cork!
Has anyone else noticed the demise of cork hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 17, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
Fantastic display from Waterford U21s winning in Cork!
Has anyone else noticed the demise of cork hurling?
Is it the demise of Cork hurling or the evolution of Waterford hurling btdtgtt? 

Any results from this evenings U21 Semi Finals anyone??  I had planned to go up to Creggan (potentially a better game) but my annual Novena duties interfering with the schedule.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 08:45:15 PM
Fantastic display from Waterford U21s winning in Cork!
Has anyone else noticed the demise of cork hurling?

That's a powerful Waterford u-21 team, 7 senior starters I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
The johnnies won handy.

Waterford hurling is really on the up and the presence of seniors who made the breakthrough just over a decade ago is really helping current young hurlers who aspired to be them.
Clare have a recent Liam Mac with a young team, Limerick are back and with a recent U21 are a young side, Tipp are Tipp and arguable favourited for Liam Mac this year.
All that considered - are Cork now the poor relations of Munster hurling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 17, 2015, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
The johnnies won handy.

Waterford hurling is really on the up and the presence of seniors who made the breakthrough just over a decade ago is really helping current young hurlers who aspired to be them.
Clare have a recent Liam Mac with a young team, Limerick are back and with a recent U21 are a young side, Tipp are Tipp and arguable favourited for Liam Mac this year.
All that considered - are Cork now the poor relations of Munster hurling?
Cheers btdtgtt. I expected the Johnnies would win anyhow.  Any result form the Cushendall v Galls game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 17, 2015, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 17, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
The johnnies won handy.

Waterford hurling is really on the up and the presence of seniors who made the breakthrough just over a decade ago is really helping current young hurlers who aspired to be them.
Clare have a recent Liam Mac with a young team, Limerick are back and with a recent U21 are a young side, Tipp are Tipp and arguable favourited for Liam Mac this year.
All that considered - are Cork now the poor relations of Munster hurling?
Cheers btdtgtt. I expected the Johnnies would win anyhow.  Any result form the Cushendall v Galls game?

Cushendall win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
St Galls couldn't field
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
I'm sure Cushendall are hoping the final's this Saturday evening  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2015, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
I'm sure Cushendall are hoping the final's this Saturday evening  ;D
How come?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2015, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
I'm sure Cushendall are hoping the final's this Saturday evening  ;D
How come?

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 18, 2015, 07:55:42 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 17, 2015, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 17, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
I'm sure Cushendall are hoping the final's this Saturday evening  ;D
How come?

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Sorry, I genuinely don't know what you mean..even with your condescending post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2015, 08:32:05 AM
Keep yer hair on precious  ::)

Reference to the U21 final last year when St Johns didn't field on the Sat night of the Feile weekend and handed Cushendall the title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2015, 09:06:14 AM
Interesting backdrop to this year's final!
Who would be favourites and when is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 18, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2015, 08:32:05 AM
Keep yer hair on precious  ::)

Reference to the U21 final last year when St Johns didn't field on the Sat night of the Feile weekend and handed Cushendall the title.
Ok..I just thought the Saturday in particular & not just in general. You hope for Hurling in Antrims sake they would field. Seems to be a problem in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 18, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 18, 2015, 08:32:05 AM
Keep yer hair on precious  ::)

Reference to the U21 final last year when St Johns didn't field on the Sat night of the Feile weekend and handed Cushendall the title.
Ok..I just thought the Saturday in particular & not just in general. You hope for Hurling in Antrims sake they would field. Seems to be a problem in Belfast.

I've asked the question and haven't been told as to why this game wasn't played!! WTF is wrong here??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2015, 09:58:22 AM
take it you're referring to the St Galls no show MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on June 18, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
St Johns Surely be favourites, This team was their ulster minor winning team that did the double in football and hurling a few years back I think, and even at that they've gained some talented youngsters.

Wouldnt write Cdall of either though, Should be a close game. If it goes ahead.

St Johns be vying for blood after the let down of last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 18, 2015, 11:04:00 AM
A couple of red cards of Monday night in the ballycastle game might be why they couldn't field?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 11:23:23 AM
St galls could field.
From what I can gather the decision was taken by the team management in the interest of player welfare not to field .
There were some players expected to play games Sunday , Monday, Wednesday , Friday and Sunday again.
And one player expected to play for antrim on Saturday too.

Also I believe the county football management asked for some senior hurling games to be called off on Friday night but was refused .
St galls 3 players have agreed to play for club on Friday night.
Hardly great preparation for a championship match .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 11:23:23 AM
St galls could field.
From what I can gather the decision was taken by the team management in the interest of player welfare not to field .
There were some players expected to play games Sunday , Monday, Wednesday , Friday and Sunday again.
And one player expected to play for antrim on Saturday too.

Also I believe the county football management asked for some senior hurling games to be called off on Friday night but was refused .
St galls 3 players have agreed to play for club on Friday night.
Hardly great preparation for a championship match .

Same for most clubs, whats the point of entering teams in competitions if we don't see them out? Beating Ballycastle was a pointless exercise in my opinion then. The Johnnies would have had the same commitment to club and county also I'd assume... annoys the feck out of me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 18, 2015, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2015, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 11:23:23 AM
St galls could field.
From what I can gather the decision was taken by the team management in the interest of player welfare not to field .
There were some players expected to play games Sunday , Monday, Wednesday , Friday and Sunday again.
And one player expected to play for antrim on Saturday too.

Also I believe the county football management asked for some senior hurling games to be called off on Friday night but was refused .
St galls 3 players have agreed to play for club on Friday night.
Hardly great preparation for a championship match .

this, why enter a team to then throw the toys out? what does it cost to enter a championship anyway is it circa £500? then what is the fine for a championship FTF, £300? clubs find it hard enough to get money together without doing stupid things like this, also it means the dall go into the final without a semi final, not fair on them either. Feel sorry for some of the galls lads who are possibly out of minor and not good at senior level and this was a big game for them, this is becoming too common practice in antrim (not a slight on st galls)

Same for most clubs, whats the point of entering teams in competitions if we don't see them out? Beating Ballycastle was a pointless exercise in my opinion then. The Johnnies would have had the same commitment to club and county also I'd assume... annoys the feck out of me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 18, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
I have to agree MR2, if I was a player I wouldn't be too happy as it is them that is missing out. They should have at least been consulted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 18, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
prob is shoebox is that those dates are all set in stone for championship at the start of the year for each club who enters that competition. Its set no matter if your a dual club or not.

We have it all the time here as well. Senior football last night, senior hurling sat night. Just the way it is for dual clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 18, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 18, 2015, 03:57:45 PM
I understand that the championship dates are set in stone.  The days before those games are normally (rightly) free from games but are used for refixes and when a dual club - as you will rightly know - this causes difficulty in a week leading up to championship.

I understand that the refixed game can be changed if the other club agrees to it but this leaves it open for abuse.  Clubs in need of points would look at that as an opportunity to capitalise (i.e. Clooney Gaels this Friday).  Whereas if the option is taken away because it is either a) in the interest of player welfare or b) because it is simply unfair on the opposition, then the right thing will have been done.

The principle of promoting both hurling and football (not to mention the others) should be promoted and not punished.

Unfortunately those days are long gone. The county have in fairness acknowledged that ship has sailed. Root cause? The inordinate amount of time taken up by county teams limits the club calendar so much. Dual clubs it seems are a luxury gaa administration can't afford. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 19, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
just seen this on the antrim twitter page

The phase 1 building Contract has been awarded to Downpatrick firm  Russell Bros. Changing Rooms etc at Dunsilly will start asap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 19, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 19, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
just seen this on the antrim twitter page

The phase 1 building Contract has been awarded to Downpatrick firm  Russell Bros. Changing Rooms etc at Dunsilly will start asap

Saw it out for tender a few weeks ago, didn't think anything would come of it though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 19, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: Megaman on June 19, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 19, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
just seen this on the antrim twitter page

The phase 1 building Contract has been awarded to Downpatrick firm  Russell Bros. Changing Rooms etc at Dunsilly will start asap

Saw it out for tender a few weeks ago, didn't think anything would come of it though.

Some sweetener money has appeared from somewhere as a softener from Casement? Surely not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 19, 2015, 05:26:42 PM
im surprised at this announcement as i still dont understand how people will get into the place! there still a tiny access under the railway line, if this is the main way in still (which i assume it is)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 19, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Ah that's the plan. Appoint the constructor and insert penalty clauses for completion. Make sure they can't get into the place and the project overruns by years. County financial problems resolved. Lol.

I have heard murmurs of access problems too but no way a construction firm would apply if they were going to have any access related problems.

Good to see some positive movement on this longstanding matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 19, 2015, 09:02:43 PM
Good win for st galls tonight despite everything . Hopefully can kick start a few more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Should be a tight game tonight between the old enemies. We don't have a full squad to travel over so a great chance for the young fellas to show what they've got. Nice geansaí dunloy realist.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Dunloy 0-16 shamrocks 0-20.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Dunloy 0-16 shamrocks 0-20.

good game its a pity we gave you a head start
what players are missing from your starting squad, Watson was the only one i could see was missing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Dunloy 0-16 shamrocks 0-20.

good game its a pity we gave you a head start
what players are missing from your starting squad, Watson was the only one i could see was missing
DD, ding, neilly, scully, winker  and shan McGrath. You'd see more if the blinkers were off.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 10:49:35 AM
And can we all move on from this nonsense that loughgiel have the championship won? Dunloy have improved hugely in the last couple of weeks and Cushendall are racking up the scores. Like I posted last month, we'll know where we're all at when we hit the end of July.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
Will St John's be fielding in the U21's today??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:54:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
Dunloy 0-16 shamrocks 0-20.

good game its a pity we gave you a head start
what players are missing from your starting squad, Watson was the only one i could see was missing
DD, ding, neilly, scully, winker  and shan McGrath. You'd see more if the blinkers were off.  ;)

Nothing to do with blinkers, I asked you a reasonable question.  But now you have answered imm quite happy with our performance once we woke up
Watson the only player could have made an impact  form the ones you mentioned
Who was your no 10
Smashing player and great of the dead balls

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 10:49:35 AM
And can we all move on from this nonsense that loughgiel have the championship won? Dunloy have improved hugely in the last couple of weeks and Cushendall are racking up the scores. Like I posted last month, we'll know where we're all at when we hit the end of July.

I have to be honest here, I would have fancied cushendall again only mc manus seems to be carrying an injury he can't shake off and arron graffin is injured and he is one of there generals
I would be shocked now if LG don't win it now at a canter
as for yesterday
LG are one of the best club teams in Ireland and we ran them to 4 points after only showing up 20 minutes in so imm happy with our lads compared to a month ago

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 21, 2015, 12:35:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 21, 2015, 10:49:35 AM
And can we all move on from this nonsense that loughgiel have the championship won? Dunloy have improved hugely in the last couple of weeks and Cushendall are racking up the scores. Like I posted last month, we'll know where we're all at when we hit the end of July.

I have to be honest here, I would have fancied cushendall again only mc manus seems to be carrying an injury he can't shake off and arron graffin is injured and he is one of there generals
I would be shocked now if LG don't win it now at a canter
as for yesterday
LG are one of the best club teams in Ireland and we ran them to 4 points after only showing up 20 minutes in so imm happy with our lads compared to a month ago
Cushendall are the team to beat. McManus, Graffin missing or not. They've got serious u21 and minor talent to come in.

The number 10 is James mcnaughton. An unreal hurler and still a minor. One for the future alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 21, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
Rossa beat Ballycastle up the Shaws Road there.
Both sides missing players and a couple of red cards after a few slaps - the result was never in doubt.
No scoreboard but Rossa on top throughout the guy beside me had 9 in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 21, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
Rossa beat Ballycastle up the Shaws Road there.
Both sides missing players and a couple of red cards after a few slaps - the result was never in doubt.
No scoreboard but Rossa on top throughout the guy beside me had 9 in it.

Brilliant result... Rossa on the up. Hopefully they put in a massive effort in Championship also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on June 21, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
congratulations to a very talented st johns team today. michael bradley, hang your head in shame.no need to say anything else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: auld stock on June 21, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
congratulations to a very talented st johns team today. michael bradley, hang your head in shame.no need to say anything else
Congrats to St John's..best team won on the day.
As for Bradley..the lowest of the low
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 21, 2015, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: auld stock on June 21, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
congratulations to a very talented st johns team today. michael bradley, hang your head in shame.no need to say anything else
Congrats to St John's..best team won on the day.
As for Bradley..the lowest of the low
What's the story with the Bradley fella?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: auld stock on June 21, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
congratulations to a very talented st johns team today. michael bradley, hang your head in shame.no need to say anything else
Congrats to St John's..best team won on the day.
As for Bradley..the lowest of the low

What happened?? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 10:03:16 PM
Said a few things that have no place on a GAA pitch about another players deceased father.  I've a few words for him.  None of which I will put on this board.    let himself and his club down, rather never win as revert to that sort of shite.  Should be ashamed of himself. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PM
I hope there is action taken if the referee noted this. Too much of this 'sledging' creeping in to our game. If it was said on the street he wouldn't have got away with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:24:24 PM
So some hurling people are happy to name and shame a player without hearing what, if anything, was actually said ?

And the same people make no comment on the Cushendall mentor who threw himself to the ground without being touched looking for a player to be sent off ?

Bottom line is the Best team won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:24:24 PM
So some hurling people are happy to name and shame a player without hearing what, if anything, was actually said ?

And the same people make no comment on the Cushendall mentor who threw himself to the ground without being touched looking for a player to be sent off ?

Bottom line is the Best team won.

You were there... Did that person say those things?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Timely first post from a Johnnies man  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 11:31:20 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:24:24 PM
So some hurling people are happy to name and shame a player without hearing what, if anything, was actually said ?

And the same people make no comment on the Cushendall mentor who threw himself to the ground without being touched looking for a player to be sent off ?

Bottom line is the Best team won.
Oh it was said by the individual in question. And it was heard by others. His club are aware of the comments

The actions of the Waterboy were embarrassing...but I don't think you can actually compare the two incidents

I already said that the best team won. There are no arguments in C'Dall on that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
I was there and I don't know how anyone could hear what was actually said on the field? I sincerely doubt any other supporter heard what was said but most people there would have seen the embarrassing antics of the Cushendall mentor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 21, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
I was there and I don't know how anyone could hear what was actually said on the field? I sincerely doubt any other supporter heard what was said but most people there would have seen the embarrassing antics of the Cushendall mentor.
I just hope you are a teenager and not an adult
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
I was there and I don't know how anyone could hear what was actually said on the field? I sincerely doubt any other supporter heard what was said but most people there would have seen the embarrassing antics of the Cushendall mentor.

So what did he say ? Simple enough question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:43:35 PM
Did you hear what was said ?

What is the name of the thirty something water boy ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2015, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:43:35 PM
Did you hear what was said ?

What is the name of the thirty something water boy ?

Look I'll make it real simple, did you hear what he said?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:51:06 PM
I didn't hear anything that was said by individual players during the game so I'd be amazed if other supporters did.

If people didn't hear it themselves they shouldn't be putting a name to what is obviously quite discussing comments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:52:25 PM
Still waiting for the name of the thirty something water boy ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 21, 2015, 11:58:33 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 21, 2015, 11:51:06 PM
I didn't hear anything that was said by individual players during the game so I'd be amazed if other supporters did.

Are you God?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 22, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
I was at the U-21 game. Some questionable refereeing to say the least. In particular when a St. Johns sub came on to full forward and immediately punched our full back in the stomach. It was seen by the umpire he called in the referee who decided a yellow card was enough. Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't striking an automatic red card? If Bradley said what is being suggested then he should be ashamed of himself it is utterly disgusting. Regardless if it has been noted by the referee if a player from my club did that then I would expect the club to take action. As far as the game goes, hats off to St. Johns the better all round team on the day. They weathered an early storm when we went 0-8 to 0-2 up and reeled us in after they converted the penalty. I'm proud of our lads as well, probably our best player wasn't fit to start and we only loose 1 player for next year and had 5 minors on the pitch as well. They stuck at it rightly and never gave up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 08:12:38 AM
Questionable refereeing? Mark is one of our best referees and wouldn't shrink from handing out a red card... Referees don't lose game or win them. They may make the odd mistake but don't do it on purpose just like when a player picks the wrong shot/pass selection or gives away scoreable frees... As already stated... Best team won and that's that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 22, 2015, 08:42:01 AM
MR2 its wonderful that you have the ability to judge incidents from a game you didn't attend. At no stage did I suggest the referee cost us the game and I stated the best team won on the day and congratulations too them. I did however suggest that some of his decisions were questionable. He is one of "our best referees?" Really? Says who? Survey of GAA people at games? Secret ballot among club members throughout the county? Ex referees on the refs committee? Or simply your opinion? Maybe as the spokesperson for the referees union you can clear up my previous question, which you completely failed to address, regarding striking an opponent the umpire witnessing the incident informing the referee and yet only a yellow card is produced?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 22, 2015, 08:42:01 AM
MR2 its wonderful that you have the ability to judge incidents from a game you didn't attend. At no stage did I suggest the referee cost us the game and I stated the best team won on the day and congratulations too them. I did however suggest that some of his decisions were questionable. He is one of "our best referees?" Really? Says who? Survey of GAA people at games? Secret ballot among club members throughout the county? Ex referees on the refs committee? Or simply your opinion? Maybe as the spokesperson for the referees union you can clear up my previous question, which you completely failed to address, regarding striking an opponent the umpire witnessing the incident informing the referee and yet only a yellow card is produced?

don't be daft now, this is going on form and from watching as a player/manager and fellow referee that I've seen Mark referee games well... we all judge our players on how good they are... Graffin is one of your best players how did i come up with that judgement? do I have to watch all his games to know that? Like I already said we don't get every decision correct nor does every manager or player.

We've all walked away from games wondering could I have done better, it is what it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 22, 2015, 08:54:57 AM
Referees don't get every decision correct, that would be virtually impossible. That is why you have linesmen and umpires to assist. Now maybe you'll actually address my question MR2. Striking an opponent, off the ball, witnessed by an umpire, referee informed, only produces a yellow card? Whats the story? "Mark is a great fella, good referee, seen him referee before, can't always be right........"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind.
Hold on. I am not defending what was said. I am
Defending the person as you have wrongly judged him without knowing him. I dare say we have all had a club mate who has done something wrong but you know it's out of character . If mick has said this it's wrong but it is out of character. Does his mum and dad need to see this. He's a good lad who hurling means everything . Also there is innocent until proven guilty. I am guessing there has been a campaign of retaliation and abuse last night on social media as his a account has been deleted. We all know how dangerous this can be. It makes people no better . I'm not a naomh eoin man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 22, 2015, 08:54:57 AM
Referees don't get every decision correct, that would be virtually impossible. That is why you have linesmen and umpires to assist. Now maybe you'll actually address my question MR2. Striking an opponent, off the ball, witnessed by an umpire, referee informed, only produces a yellow card? Whats the story? "Mark is a great fella, good referee, seen him referee before, can't always be right........"

If you heard his umpire say that he struck him then fine, if the umpire said there was a bitta rough play then he judged it to be a yellow... you didn't hear what was said in fairness, bit like the other incident which if said is terrible.. If Mark seen a off the ball strike then he'd have sent him off for sure, of that I'm certain
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 09:46:00 AM
I was not at the game but:

How can it be rough play if it was off the ball MR2?
I think in instances like this the yellow card is often a cop out - albeit one which suits players and officials alike. But to follow the rules, IF you strike someone off the ball - red card.

I heard the comments made, a St John's man informed me. Sickening, disgusting and I don't know what would ever possess someone. I'm not sure how it could ever be proven so that's a red herring - but if we're concerned about a backlash then the best possible route is for a guilty party to own up and apologise. That's the starting point - St John's and the guy in question should be more concerned about this than anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 22, 2015, 10:18:40 AM
You miss the point lads, I am not saying he didn't do it , what I am saying is that I know the person. He is a good fella , dedicated to his sport, is there for friends. It's out of character and if an apology is to be made it's to the person not public for you to judge. Leave him alone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 09:46:00 AM
I was not at the game but:

How can it be rough play if it was off the ball MR2?
I think in instances like this the yellow card is often a cop out - albeit one which suits players and officials alike. But to follow the rules, IF you strike someone off the ball - red card.

I heard the comments made, a St John's man informed me. Sickening, disgusting and I don't know what would ever possess someone. I'm not sure how it could ever be proven so that's a red herring - but if we're concerned about a backlash then the best possible route is for a guilty party to own up and apologise. That's the starting point - St John's and the guy in question should be more concerned about this than anything else.

I never seen it either but when subs come on they usually get into a jostling sort of shit, I'm a bigger man than you macho crap... It's always a red card when someone strikes someone all day long or even attempts to strike someone, those are the rules.. as for the umpire calling in Mark then he would have to state he struck him with intent, its all guess work though as you don't know what the umpire seen or said, would that be fair enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
Yeah I agree. A strike is a red -no question.
As for the subs barging as usual - personally I think Ref's (and umpires) should ignore this! It'll settle straight away and isn't worthy of stopping the game for a harsh yellow!

That's in general - we'll leave the call in this match to those who saw it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 22, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Should be a tight game tonight between the old enemies. We don't have a full squad to travel over so a great chance for the young fellas to show what they've got. Nice geansaí dunloy realist.  ;D

ahh ffs i take it you seen me on the gate then on sat night  ;D

i have to be honest it was a poor enough game. Loughgiel were away ahead of us the whole game and i dont think we ever looked like winning it.  would love to know how many frees were awarded in the game because it just seemed to stop and start all the time. This advantage rule is a pain in the hole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2015, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 22, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Should be a tight game tonight between the old enemies. We don't have a full squad to travel over so a great chance for the young fellas to show what they've got. Nice geansaí dunloy realist.  ;D

ahh ffs i take it you seen me on the gate then on sat night  ;D

i have to be honest it was a poor enough game. Loughgiel were away ahead of us the whole game and i dont think we ever looked like winning it.  would love to know how many frees were awarded in the game because it just seemed to stop and start all the time. This advantage rule is a pain in the hole.

It does not help when added to an overly picky referee for that game. We are killing the game for the players and spectators, no flow or rhythm to the games at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on June 22, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind.
Hold on. I am not defending what was said. I am
Defending the person as you have wrongly judged him without knowing him. I dare say we have all had a club mate who has done something wrong but you know it's out of character . If mick has said this it's wrong but it is out of character. Does his mum and dad need to see this. He's a good lad who hurling means everything . Also there is innocent until proven guilty. I am guessing there has been a campaign of retaliation and abuse last night on social media as his a account has been deleted. We all know how dangerous this can be. It makes people no better . I'm not a naomh eoin man

Perhaps the accused should have thought about the bit in bold before saying what he has reportedly said?
And also spared a thought for the impact it would have on the fella he said it to.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 22, 2015, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 22, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Should be a tight game tonight between the old enemies. We don't have a full squad to travel over so a great chance for the young fellas to show what they've got. Nice geansaí dunloy realist.  ;D

ahh ffs i take it you seen me on the gate then on sat night  ;D

i have to be honest it was a poor enough game. Loughgiel were away ahead of us the whole game and i dont think we ever looked like winning it.  would love to know how many frees were awarded in the game because it just seemed to stop and start all the time. This advantage rule is a pain in the hole.

It does not help when added to an overly picky referee for that game. We are killing the game for the players and spectators, no flow or rhythm to the games at all.

Jury is out on the advantage rule for me.... first game this year last night and to be fair its a little confusing, maybe I was a little rusty  but its very hard to please player/spectators and management in calling it.... I always (still do) shout play on when players 'think' there is a foul and some were thinking that means advantage !

As for letting it flow! is that when Galvin referee's a game and the rules go out the window? its brilliant as a fan watching those games with those teams going full on... generally though they don't lose the bap and start a fight or pull wildly on the man, which is normally the case once you 'let it flow' in Antrim.. Once our antrim lads man up during the game and move on to the 'next ball' then maybe we can let it flow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on June 22, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
innocent until proven guilty but no smoke without fire as my granny would have said.
It'll be an interesting encounter when these two teams meet again in snr hurling league on Sunday (fixtures have them down to play eachother) An all ticket event!!!
I remember in the 90's and 00's a certain Rossa player getting sledged for years everytime he played against St Johns about family members. Stuff was said that should never have been said and it happened time and time again. Not a thing ever done about. No need for it but not surprised it's happening. a little bit of hype about at national football level this year so it's on people's minds and you'll find a couple of smart @rses thinking that they gain an advantage by resorting to it.
On the issue of the referee - he's been very consistent in the games i've seen him ref this year and agree with MR2 (as a spectator and consumer of our games) he's one of the best we've got at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 22, 2015, 02:12:28 PM
What Mark are we referring to hear lads just to make sure we are on the same page - Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on June 22, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
innocent until proven guilty but no smoke without fire as my granny would have said.
It'll be an interesting encounter when these two teams meet again in snr hurling league on Sunday (fixtures have them down to play eachother) An all ticket event!!!
I remember in the 90's and 00's a certain Rossa player getting sledged for years everytime he played against St Johns about family members. Stuff was said that should never have been said and it happened time and time again. Not a thing ever done about. No need for it but not surprised it's happening. a little bit of hype about at national football level this year so it's on people's minds and you'll find a couple of smart @rses thinking that they gain an advantage by resorting to it.
On the issue of the referee - he's been very consistent in the games i've seen him ref this year and agree with MR2 (as a spectator and consumer of our games) he's one of the best we've got at the minute.

Not at all picking them out as I've praised them even recently but the Johnnies do have form with stuff like this - and at underage level also.
As I said, speaking to some of them they are aware of it.
I don't think it does St Johns any credit to shift the argument at all.
There's been an issue with how the club (players/mentors/supports) behave.
It has happened before.
St Johns need to deal with it.
The club's name suffers around the county more than once with things like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 22, 2015, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: doodaa on June 22, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 22, 2015, 08:58:06 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on June 21, 2015, 11:40:08 PM
Id say he's more of an ejit than anything else.  Away and catch yourself on. He's a sc**bag in my book for saying what he said.  No place for it in any sport. And if you wanna try and take away from it or stand up for what WAS said.  Your not far behind.
Hold on. I am not defending what was said. I am
Defending the person as you have wrongly judged him without knowing him. I dare say we have all had a club mate who has done something wrong but you know it's out of character . If mick has said this it's wrong but it is out of character. Does his mum and dad need to see this. He's a good lad who hurling means everything . Also there is innocent until proven guilty. I am guessing there has been a campaign of retaliation and abuse last night on social media as his a account has been deleted. We all know how dangerous this can be. It makes people no better . I'm not a naomh eoin man

Perhaps the accused should have thought about the bit in bold before saying what he has reportedly said?
And also spared a thought for the impact it would have on the fella he said it to.
Missing the point . Of course people are thinking of the guy who had to endure it but what happens next is imp. I dare say Facebook was deleted because of abuse. Cyber bullying is dangerous and can have dreadful consequences
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 22, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on June 22, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
innocent until proven guilty but no smoke without fire as my granny would have said.
It'll be an interesting encounter when these two teams meet again in snr hurling league on Sunday (fixtures have them down to play eachother) An all ticket event!!!
I remember in the 90's and 00's a certain Rossa player getting sledged for years everytime he played against St Johns about family members. Stuff was said that should never have been said and it happened time and time again. Not a thing ever done about. No need for it but not surprised it's happening. a little bit of hype about at national football level this year so it's on people's minds and you'll find a couple of smart @rses thinking that they gain an advantage by resorting to it.
On the issue of the referee - he's been very consistent in the games i've seen him ref this year and agree with MR2 (as a spectator and consumer of our games) he's one of the best we've got at the minute.

Not at all picking them out as I've praised them even recently but the Johnnies do have form with stuff like this - and at underage level also.
As I said, speaking to some of them they are aware of it.
I don't think it does St Johns any credit to shift the argument at all.
There's been an issue with how the club (players/mentors/supports) behave.
It has happened before.
St Johns need to deal with it.
The club's name suffers around the county more than once with things like this.
Its self inflicted and they feel they are being persecuted.  St. Johns have been notorious for this type of nonsense for years. The have sullied the game and name of this county for years.  They need to deal with it.  Bradley in my view should go face to face with the Cushendall lad and apologise.  Should he get a belt in the gob for his troubles, all well and good.  Should he not be man enough, admit what he done and apologise face to face, he's nothing but an utter sc**bag!  Equally, anyone who condones such behaviour is also a sc**bag!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 22, 2015, 05:01:33 PM
jes you only think we have bother. Taken from the waterford championship between Mount Sion and Dungarvan. Complete animals.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbgwwwzIaCI
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2015, 05:17:42 PM
Gees that's rough. One of them boys should never be allowed to play again- he just chopped the no 15 down the back of his neck with the hurl !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 22, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
its brutal. apparently he was out cold completely after it. The fella that hit no15 was taking a battering and then lashed at the first person he seen. Brutal stuff. Wont do Waterford Munster title hopes any favours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 22, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on June 22, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
innocent until proven guilty but no smoke without fire as my granny would have said.
It'll be an interesting encounter when these two teams meet again in snr hurling league on Sunday (fixtures have them down to play eachother) An all ticket event!!!
I remember in the 90's and 00's a certain Rossa player getting sledged for years everytime he played against St Johns about family members. Stuff was said that should never have been said and it happened time and time again. Not a thing ever done about. No need for it but not surprised it's happening. a little bit of hype about at national football level this year so it's on people's minds and you'll find a couple of smart @rses thinking that they gain an advantage by resorting to it.
On the issue of the referee - he's been very consistent in the games i've seen him ref this year and agree with MR2 (as a spectator and consumer of our games) he's one of the best we've got at the minute.

Not at all picking them out as I've praised them even recently but the Johnnies do have form with stuff like this - and at underage level also.
As I said, speaking to some of them they are aware of it.
I don't think it does St Johns any credit to shift the argument at all.
There's been an issue with how the club (players/mentors/supports) behave.
It has happened before.
St Johns need to deal with it.
The club's name suffers around the county more than once with things like this.
Its self inflicted and they feel they are being persecuted.  St. Johns have been notorious for this type of nonsense for years. The have sullied the game and name of this county for years.  They need to deal with it.  Bradley in my view should go face to face with the Cushendall lad and apologise.  Should he get a belt in the gob for his troubles, all well and good.  Should he not be man enough, admit what he done and apologise face to face, he's nothing but an utter sc**bag!  Equally, anyone who condones such behaviour is also a sc**bag!

Hard to argue with that!

Gleeson got the line in that free-for-all. Be interesting to see the suspensions but I've a feeling it won't harm the Waterford camp otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 22, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
Any truth in the stories emanating out of ballycastle about their management team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 22, 2015, 07:58:11 PM
Unfortunately yes. management team stepped down - some yesterday and the manager this morning. It's bad bad times. I could say more but won't. Feel sorry for the players - although humpy was just out of his depth. A really decent fella but not a manager.
Bonamargy probably knows the whole story.

God knows what happens now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2015, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Leyland on June 22, 2015, 07:58:11 PM
Unfortunately yes. management team stepped down - some yesterday and the manager this morning. It's bad bad times. I could say more but won't. Feel sorry for the players - although humpy was just out of his depth. A really decent fella but not a manager.
Bonamargy probably knows the whole story.

God knows what happens now.

Out of his depth? Seems a bit strong? has management background with minor and development squads... Had conversation with someone the other day about realistic targets by clubs, players and management... For me it simply boils down to commitment if the club/players/management are committed then you can actually achieve realistic targets and grow from there.. If one of those 3 fail to put the shoulder behind the wheel then you are fecked.

Ballycastle is an enigma so many good players over the years that only us a small club at hurling would love to have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 22, 2015, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 22, 2015, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on June 22, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
innocent until proven guilty but no smoke without fire as my granny would have said.
It'll be an interesting encounter when these two teams meet again in snr hurling league on Sunday (fixtures have them down to play eachother) An all ticket event!!!
I remember in the 90's and 00's a certain Rossa player getting sledged for years everytime he played against St Johns about family members. Stuff was said that should never have been said and it happened time and time again. Not a thing ever done about. No need for it but not surprised it's happening. a little bit of hype about at national football level this year so it's on people's minds and you'll find a couple of smart @rses thinking that they gain an advantage by resorting to it.
On the issue of the referee - he's been very consistent in the games i've seen him ref this year and agree with MR2 (as a spectator and consumer of our games) he's one of the best we've got at the minute.

Not at all picking them out as I've praised them even recently but the Johnnies do have form with stuff like this - and at underage level also.
As I said, speaking to some of them they are aware of it.
I don't think it does St Johns any credit to shift the argument at all.
There's been an issue with how the club (players/mentors/supports) behave.
It has happened before.
St Johns need to deal with it.
The club's name suffers around the county more than once with things like this.
Its self inflicted and they feel they are being persecuted.  St. Johns have been notorious for this type of nonsense for years. The have sullied the game and name of this county for years.  They need to deal with it.  Bradley in my view should go face to face with the Cushendall lad and apologise.  Should he get a belt in the gob for his troubles, all well and good.  Should he not be man enough, admit what he done and apologise face to face, he's nothing but an utter sc**bag!  Equally, anyone who condones such behaviour is also a sc**bag!

Hard to argue with that!

Gleeson got the line in that free-for-all. Be interesting to see the suspensions but I've a feeling it won't harm the Waterford camp otherwise.
Absolute disgrace.  The sad thing is that there are those who would condone that sort of physical assault on a player.  Gleeson a fine hurler, but the game can certainly do without individuals who resort to such savagery, despite their prowess!  GBH in my view, people have been at the magistrate court for less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 22, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
I won't speculate because I don't know the full facts about what has gone on. I am disappointed how things have worked out for Humpy. He is a good hurling man and gave it his all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on June 22, 2015, 08:23:56 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 22, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
I won't speculate because I don't know the full facts about what has gone on. I am disappointed how things have worked out for Humpy. He is a good hurling man and gave it his all.

Yes. I've heard conflicting accounts going back some time now, so I'll not comment on that but I'm gutted and I don't think I'll be going anywhere to watch Ballycastle for a while. 
Maybe if they get to a championship final *ironic laughs*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 22, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
Totally agree - a real gentleman and loves hurling. Unfortunately other credentials needed though. Players have to take their share of Blame. No winners in any of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 22, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Sorry to hear this. Someone urgently needs to reel that squad in as there is the potential to win a championship. Humpy is a top bloke and should be respected as he was a top player. You would have to imagine this will be yet another year with no championship! If I'm not mistaken Ballycastle have lost good players to work/travel commitments. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on June 22, 2015, 09:55:30 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 22, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Sorry to hear this. Someone urgently needs to reel that squad in as there is the potential to win a championship. Humpy is a top bloke and should be respected as he was a top player. You would have to imagine this will be yet another year with no championship! If I'm not mistaken Ballycastle have lost good players to work/travel commitments. 

Bcastle as a club generally need to wind there neck in! Ideas above their station about winning championships when they don't even compete properly at league level. Plenty of good players but it takes hard work to win championships and from what I hear this is a problem every year with numbers at training/ players going to America. Then of course it's the managements problem. If they all put the effort in that humpy has over the years then they might have their championship by now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2015, 10:01:52 PM
Big parish and done nothing in 30 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 22, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
I asked this a while back but it's becoming clear why ballycastle have won nothing for so long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 22, 2015, 10:47:20 PM
Sorry to hear that a great hurling man has had to step down. He's not the only one that has struggled to get performances out of this Ballycastle squad. The players should look to try and use this to galvanise them and turn their season around. They owe it to their club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on June 22, 2015, 11:05:29 PM
There are a lot of hurlers in Ballycastle would need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Humpy managed Armoy about ten to fifteen years ago and was a complete gentleman. Didn't win anything with us either but that's no shame. He was fully committed when he was up the Glen and I am sure he was even more so at his own club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 23, 2015, 12:06:03 AM
Ballycastle implodes again

I think the sleeping giant theory is getting a bit long winded at this stage.

with the players that has come through every year and some smashing ones to come you wonder how long can they  keep wasting their  resources

we have been waiting for years now for them to break down the door and flourish

I thought Humpy maybe was the missing link , someone who could inject a bit of steel but now  it seems not

not good for the antrim club scene

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 23, 2015, 09:01:32 AM
if a club legend like humpy cant inspire the players to push on for a championship then no one else has a hope. The players have to take the brunt of the blame for their clubs constant short falls. So many talented players yet each year its the same short comings. A new manager comes in and its the same thing.

There seems to be some sort of English soccer mentality crept into the GAA where the media and fans will blame a manager when a team doesn't deliver and get shot of them. Time for the players to take a long look at themselves and see the obvious in front of them that its they who are letting their club and fans down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2015, 02:44:14 PM
IMO clubs should base everything they do on the love of the game and setting the right standards (skill levels, commitment, values, respect, togetherness etc) rather than focusing on silverware. Everything after that should be taken as a bonus.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on June 23, 2015, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 23, 2015, 02:44:14 PM
IMO clubs should base everything they do on the love of the game and setting the right standards (skill levels, commitment, values, respect, togetherness etc) rather than focusing on silverware. Everything after that should be taken as a bonus.

Normally skull if a team with a lot of good players such as Bcastle followed these rules then silverware would surely follow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 23, 2015, 04:21:36 PM
Two Days since The St Johns player disgraced the u21 championship, his club and Family and still no word from him or his Club!! If he is innocent why isn't he accusing the Dall men of telling lies. I'm told St Johns are a club of a certain class, and I know many of the older lads are, but this new breed led by their mentor Jonty are a disgrace. We could write a book about their antics from playing over age players, unregistered players, snubbing the President Nicky Brennan, their yearly visits to Feile CCC, a complete joke. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on June 23, 2015, 04:55:03 PM
New user - check
First post - check
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2015, 05:18:09 PM
Quote from: pullhard on June 23, 2015, 04:55:03 PM
New user - check
First post - check
Axe to grind - check

What I was thinking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 23, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
While I am disgusted by the actions of the St. Johns player and I am no fan of Mr. Johnson I wouldn't agree with the other accusations about St. Johns. Always made feel more than welcome when we go up there and plenty of good hurling people in their club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 23, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: pullhard on June 23, 2015, 04:55:03 PM
New user - check
First post - check
Axe to grind - check
+1 - Stinks of an embittered individual who has fallen from grace, written all over it.  Our county appears to have more than most?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 23, 2015, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 23, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
While I am disgusted by the actions of the St. Johns player and I am no fan of Mr. Johnson I wouldn't agree with the other accusations about St. Johns. Always made feel more than welcome when we go up there and plenty of good hurling people in their club.
I think the post from the newbie admitted there was good people in St Johns, and there are some great people who have done a lot for Antrim Hurling. Always enjoyed the craic up there too.

There is is no doubting the success gained at underage by St John's with Johnston in charge however there have been a long line of bad incidents going back to the Feile days. This is the latest incident and by far the worst. Sleeping Giant got it 100% the other day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 23, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
I thought the idea of this thread was to discuss the issues affecting Antrim hurling, and in my mind this is one of the biggest talking points in recent times, and one I feel compelled to comment on. Is their a better time that would be more suitable to Join?
The facts still remain the player hasn't been in touch with player or club, not good enough.
As for "get even not cross" what fall from grace are you on about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 23, 2015, 11:54:34 PM
For a first post you just come across as a sh1t stirrer/ trouble maker

Time will tell. I could very well be wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 24, 2015, 09:07:08 AM
I heard what was said last night and it just baffles me why anyone would say anything like that to anyone at anytime , never mind at a game .
I know we all say things in the heat of the moment but that's bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 24, 2015, 09:35:21 AM
yeah Tom has done a good job with them and seems to have them going well. Well done to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 24, 2015, 09:28:15 AM
I was chatting last night to a few Carey boys. They seem to have got going rightly now with a couple of good wins in a row.  Magilligan from Dunloy looking after them and they're loving the training.  I always liked Carey.  Good luck to them.   

They hurled rightly on Sunday night, I thought an improved Gorts team would have ran them closer but Carey got a good start and never looked like giving that up... Intermediate looks very interesting this year... I sincerely hope we follow up on Rossa last year and win the all Ireland intermediate again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 24, 2015, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 09:41:46 AM
They hurled rightly on Sunday night, I thought an improved Gorts team would have ran them closer but Carey got a good start and never looked like giving that up... Intermediate looks very interesting this year... I sincerely hope we follow up on Rossa last year and win the all Ireland intermediate again

St Galls in the IHC this year?
I too thought that Gort would have won that game. They have had some good results to date.  They're another small club that never seem to go away just like Carey and for that you have to respect them.

I meant an Antrim team 'we'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
Carey seem to have turned a corner in the last couple of weeks, back to consistently winning games again after a terrible start to the season. Good to see and long may it continue.

Will be very tight in that league come the end of the year with four teams relegated. Apart from Ballygalget and Glenariffe It looks like most of the teams in division two are in a relegation fight, with only a couple of points separating third and eighth. It will be a scramble right to the finish it seems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 11:40:21 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 24, 2015, 11:00:25 AM
I get you now.  Yea the intorduction of the All Ireland Junior and Intermediate since 2005 (I think) has been a great success and gives a great incentive for smaller clubs at the beginning of the year.

Or a disincentive for the bigger clubs which ever way you want to look at it.

The Intermediate success for the Milltown men has really driven that push to the next level.....oh wait

:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 12:09:32 PM
Do you mean 'Oh Wait' in terms of them moving on since their year in intermediate, the fact that they didn't win the All Ireland intermediate or both?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
They got to a county final??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
All of the above!

IMO they were/ are able to compete at senior level 'when' they decide that they feel like it, therefore ala Rossa didnt belong or need to go to intermediate.

The wider point being that maybe their reasoning to drop down was to bring more players through, this has not materialised either. Just look at recent events around the u21 farce.

Not trying to be overly harsh and it is as much an individual player problem as it is a club issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
All of the above!

IMO they were/ are able to compete at senior level 'when' they decide that they feel like it, therefore ala Rossa didnt belong or need to go to intermediate.

The wider point being that maybe their reasoning to drop down was to bring more players through, this has not materialised either. Just look at recent events around the u21 farce.

Not trying to be overly harsh and it is as much an individual player problem as it is a club issue.

I know you jest  :o we could only dream of doing as well as your club in the all ireland series ....... oh wait
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
All of the above!

IMO they were/ are able to compete at senior level 'when' they decide that they feel like it, therefore ala Rossa didnt belong or need to go to intermediate.

The wider point being that maybe their reasoning to drop down was to bring more players through, this has not materialised either. Just look at recent events around the u21 farce.

Not trying to be overly harsh and it is as much an individual player problem as it is a club issue.

I know you jest  :o we could only dream of doing as well as your club in the all ireland series ....... oh wait

Oh touchee  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 23, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
I thought the idea of this thread was to discuss the issues affecting Antrim hurling, and in my mind this is one of the biggest talking points in recent times, and one I feel compelled to comment on. Is their a better time that would be more suitable to Join?
The facts still remain the player hasn't been in touch with player or club, not good enough.
As for "get even not cross" what fall from grace are you on about?
I would question how you are aware of what has and hasn't went on and what business is it of yours? Michael has denied saying this and also claimed that he was subjected to significant abuse and targeted from the outset. It is not his job to claim or prove his innocence. He has behaved impeccably as he always does. He is quiet , keeps his counsel and is totally dedicated to his sport. There is accusations of racial abuse being directed at st johns players but they are not on here complaining.  Right now he is perhaps the most natural hurler in the province and you through a witchhunt of behind the keyboard warriors are in danger of driving him away. As a friend Michael knows I or his other friends wouldn't defend him if he did it but I am not going to let you or others abuse him for no reason. I am free to discuss this with you at any stage you wish.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 23, 2015, 09:53:43 PM
I thought the idea of this thread was to discuss the issues affecting Antrim hurling, and in my mind this is one of the biggest talking points in recent times, and one I feel compelled to comment on. Is their a better time that would be more suitable to Join?
The facts still remain the player hasn't been in touch with player or club, not good enough.
As for "get even not cross" what fall from grace are you on about?
I would question how you are aware of what has and hasn't went on and what business is it of yours? Michael has denied saying this and also claimed that he was subjected to significant abuse and targeted from the outset. It is not his job to claim or prove his innocence. He has behaved impeccably as he always does. He is quiet , keeps his counsel and is totally dedicated to his sport. There is accusations of racial abuse being directed at st johns players but they are not on here complaining.  Right now he is perhaps the most natural hurler in the province and you through a witchhunt of behind the keyboard warriors are in danger of driving him away. As a friend Michael knows I or his other friends wouldn't defend him if he did it but I am not going to let you or others abuse him for no reason. I am free to discuss this with you at any stage you wish.
There have been other people who heard the comment so it's not just one persons word against another.

As for perhaps the most natural hurler in the province. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2015, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES

This is getting embarrassing actually Reddog. It is clear that your friend said something that he should not have said. All the other stuff that you are mentioning is not related in anyway to this.

He said what he said, he should now be man enough to hold his hands up and say he made the mistake. He would gain more of a modicum of respect by doing that, than by having his friends coming on here and attempting to justify what has gone on.

As his friend and as you say he is a decent guy, I would advise of him of the above instead of trying to defend the indefensible especially with the petty justifications that you have so far attempted.


Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
I thought there only would have been one outcome and that would be the St John's player apologising in person, and both moving on from a stupid mistake. If this is true that he is now denying it, it just making things much worse for himself and also tarring the image of his great club.

Of course it can only be a Cushendall person claiming this, as that is who was playing, your arguement is petty and childish.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
How is it not? You asked how this came about. By saying clearly he said would look pretty amateurish if trying to prove something. The county haven't found any proof . Im not getting into this with you who is anonymously attacking a lad without putting their name to it through fear.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
How is it not? You asked how this came about. By saying clearly he said would look pretty amateurish if trying to prove something. The county haven't found any proof . Im not getting into this with you who is anonymously attacking a lad without putting their name to it through fear.
so are you telling me because a cushendall man says it its true. They wouldn't be held in the highest of esteem so their word shouldn't carry more weight. In life it is up to an accuser to prove guilt, not for the accused to prove innocence. You have not proven anything and Michaels word and name carries a lot of weightup here so if he says he didn't do it that's enough for us
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Fair enough Michael.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Fair enough Michael.
:D  :D
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on June 24, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Fair enough Michael.
City Michael wouldn't be seen dead on this. grow up man up and stop attacking people and mixing. Were it not for this libellous muck I wouldn't be on this either. Its for people with chips on their shoulder who aren't good enough to do anything on the pitch
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 24, 2015, 04:15:47 PM
That's 100% right Reddog.  Innocent until proved otherwise.  But let's say an independent witness turned up (totally neutral) and testified to hearing what was allegedly said, would that settle the "whether he said it or not" debate!

You cited "in life" innocent until proved guilty - yes that's true - but often a witness who was present can tip those scales of justice in favour of one side or the other.

It was a county final.  Surely with a referee, four umpires and two linesmen, plus neutral spectators, someone is bound to have heard something.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
Targetted Bradley by lining out E.Campbell on him?
It's cos Bradley is the most naturally talented hurler in the province. Plus Eoghan has been playing Half back for the senior team recently.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 24, 2015, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
Targetted Bradley by lining out E.Campbell on him?
It's cos Bradley is the most naturally talented hurler in the province. Plus Eoghan has been playing Half back for the senior team recently.

I actually laughed at that part.

If he did it then he needs to grow a set and apologize and stop acting like a child. If he didn't then the other fella needs to grow a set as well.

simple as.

Quote from: reddogIts for people with chips on their shoulder who aren't good enough to do anything on the pitch

this made me laugh even more. Your starting to form opinions of people on here whom i know have done waaaaaaay more than you ever will have both on and off a pitch.
Title: Re: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on June 24, 2015, 04:50:30 PM
It's quite ridiculous when some of his team mates have said he said it.

Stop defending the indefensable.
Fair enough it may be out of character but he did say it, apologise , gain some respect from this and learn from it and move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 24, 2015, 05:05:55 PM
Do the 2 teams meet on Sunday in Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 24, 2015, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 24, 2015, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Quote from: reddog on June 24, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
reddog ....... whatever happened ... its pretty hard to believe how anyone could event make up what he is being accused of saying.

Have you any theories about how the disjoint between the accuser and the accused has came about? Are you inferring that accuser is deliberately making it up? After being provoked himself did he say something that may have been totally misinterpreted do you think? If not these reasons...whats your take on it?

Being a decent guy doesn't make you incapable of moments of stupidity BTW.
By using your vast knowledge of the English language you are not making your argument more valid. These are the same people who famously struck Michael across the chest with a hurl before the ball was even thrown in. I am not inferring anything. Two sides are claiming the opposite. I know Michael well and yes people can make mistakes but because what was claimed was so bad it does not automatically follow that it happened. There are nobody but cdall ones claiming it happened. These are the same ones who kicked Michael when he thrown into the line and fell. This is the same line whose manager fell like a woman when not touched to try and get Michael sent off. This is the same team who targeted Michael by lining out E  Campbell for some bizarre reason. These are the same lads who referred to the colour of st johns player's skin and the same people who taunted Michael over his private life. So do I believe Michael. YES
Targetted Bradley by lining out E.Campbell on him?
It's cos Bradley is the most naturally talented hurler in the province. Plus Eoghan has been playing Half back for the senior team recently.

I actually laughed at that part.

If he did it then he needs to grow a set and apologize and stop acting like a child. If he didn't then the other fella needs to grow a set as well.

simple as.

Quote from: reddogIts for people with chips on their shoulder who aren't good enough to do anything on the pitch

this made me laugh even more. Your starting to form opinions of people on here whom i know have done waaaaaaay more than you ever will have both on and off a pitch.
its nice to know you know me lad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.

Who won the Feis semi final between Carey and Cloughmills?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 24, 2015, 09:39:03 PM
We'll have to remember not to select Eoghan Campbell ever again. We'd be accused of targeting fellas every Sunday. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 24, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
I have enjoyed the many and varied opinions shared on this board over the years, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others and everyone is entitled to an opinion (they're like arseh*les - everyone got one) but in the aftermath of a well contested U21 final I thought a line had been crossed when a player was named and shamed as a guilty party and a small number of individuals were happy to act as judge jury and executioner on one mans uncorroborated second hand account.

It speaks volumes that 'auld hand' is happy to name names on the St John's team but is very shy about putting the name of the Dall mentor ( 30ish year old water boy !) who threw himself to the ground clutching his face without being touched in a bad parity of what's usually seen on MOTD as the worst excesses of cheating foreign soccer players, in a failed attempt to have a St. John's man sent off. In my opinion this only served to galvanise the Johnnies who clawed back a 6 point deficit to 1 in the remainder of the half.

I'm sure the person in question on reflection probably regrets his action in the heat of the moment and on reflection I wouldn't like his name more widely known as further uneducated opinion may be unjustly formed.

For the integrity of this opinion board, unless you seen or heard it yourself and especially if it's a serious allegation that will see a person, club or competition  brought into disrepute leave names out of it. Contributors after-all have their anonymity. If you saw it or heard it first hand by all means let us all know what you seen or heard.

In this particular case I actually think the CCC and due process is the best way to deal with.

I hope my next post might be about hurling  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.

Who won the Feis semi final between Carey and Cloughmills?

Cloughmills by a point. Last puck of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.

Who won the Feis semi final between Carey and Cloughmills?

Cloughmills by a point. Last puck of the game.

Thanks Hurlingstick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 24, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.

Who won the Feis semi final between Carey and Cloughmills?


C'Mills by a point. 2-12 to 2-11 I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 24, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on June 24, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 24, 2015, 05:29:31 PM
Are Cushendal and Loughiel playing full teams tonight (minus injuries)? Don't want to make the journey if they're not!
It's a reserve match

You've just saved me a journey. I was thinking it was Feis cup. Carey v Cloughmills is Feis cup.

Who won the Feis semi final between Carey and Cloughmills?


C'Mills by a point. 2-12 to 2-11 I think.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on June 24, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
Yes I am from cushendall, but the fact that some people have no disregard for what was said in the under 21 one match, and on Father's Day off all days, to compare it with our water boy falling is ridiculous, it was heard by spectators, it has no place anywhere especially not in gaa, I also find it hard to believe that any of our players were involved in any racial comments as it also happened in our own club, and infact to one off the players in our u21 team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 11:05:07 PM
Good win for us tonight against the best team in Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 11:09:33 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 24, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
I have enjoyed the many and varied opinions shared on this board over the years, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others and everyone is entitled to an opinion (they're like arseh*les - everyone got one) but in the aftermath of a well contested U21 final I thought a line had been crossed when a player was named and shamed as a guilty party and a small number of individuals were happy to act as judge jury and executioner on one mans uncorroborated second hand account.

It speaks volumes that 'auld hand' is happy to name names on the St John's team but is very shy about putting the name of the Dall mentor ( 30ish year old water boy !) who threw himself to the ground clutching his face without being touched in a bad parity of what's usually seen on MOTD as the worst excesses of cheating foreign soccer players, in a failed attempt to have a St. John's man sent off. In my opinion this only served to galvanise the Johnnies who clawed back a 6 point deficit to 1 in the remainder of the half.

I'm sure the person in question on reflection probably regrets his action in the heat of the moment and on reflection I wouldn't like his name more widely known as further uneducated opinion may be unjustly formed.

For the integrity of this opinion board, unless you seen or heard it yourself and especially if it's a serious allegation that will see a person, club or competition  brought into disrepute leave names out of it. Contributors after-all have their anonymity. If you saw it or heard it first hand by all means let us all know what you seen or heard.

In this particular case I actually think the CCC and due process is the best way to deal with.

I hope my next post might be about hurling  :)
You do realise that there are witnesses. Some of the Cushendall supporters were aware of the comment at half time.
The Cushendall Waterboy has been spoken too. That is fact. His actions were very poor but as stated..him trying to getting a player is hardly comparable to a player mocking the death of someone's father.
He's only made it worse for himself. He should have apologised & everyone could have moved on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on June 24, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
Believe cushendall St. John's match has been reseshdued for Saturday evening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
Quote from: cushendall on June 24, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
Believe cushendall St. John's match has been reseshdued for Saturday evening

Don't bring the kids  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 24, 2015, 11:09:33 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 24, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
I have enjoyed the many and varied opinions shared on this board over the years, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others and everyone is entitled to an opinion (they're like arseh*les - everyone got one) but in the aftermath of a well contested U21 final I thought a line had been crossed when a player was named and shamed as a guilty party and a small number of individuals were happy to act as judge jury and executioner on one mans uncorroborated second hand account.

It speaks volumes that 'auld hand' is happy to name names on the St John's team but is very shy about putting the name of the Dall mentor ( 30ish year old water boy !) who threw himself to the ground clutching his face without being touched in a bad parity of what's usually seen on MOTD as the worst excesses of cheating foreign soccer players, in a failed attempt to have a St. John's man sent off. In my opinion this only served to galvanise the Johnnies who clawed back a 6 point deficit to 1 in the remainder of the half.

I'm sure the person in question on reflection probably regrets his action in the heat of the moment and on reflection I wouldn't like his name more widely known as further uneducated opinion may be unjustly formed.

For the integrity of this opinion board, unless you seen or heard it yourself and especially if it's a serious allegation that will see a person, club or competition  brought into disrepute leave names out of it. Contributors after-all have their anonymity. If you saw it or heard it first hand by all means let us all know what you seen or heard.

In this particular case I actually think the CCC and due process is the best way to deal with.

I hope my next post might be about hurling  :)
You do realise that there are witnesses. Some of the Cushendall supporters were aware of the comment at half time.
The Cushendall Waterboy has been spoken too. That is fact. His actions were very poor but as stated..him trying to getting a player is hardly comparable to a player mocking the death of someone's father.
He's only made it worse for himself. He should have apologised & everyone could have moved on.
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Once more we see people from one side deciding that as they say hes done it that hes guilty. He has nothing to apologise for and the same man would apologise if he done it as that's the type of him. But for cushendall to drag a man's reputation through the gutter without any proof would in normal life libellous. There have been meetings there has been nothing in the reports to incriminate him so stop trying to ruin someones life. Ps how has he 'only made it worse for himself' Are you insuating or threatening that cushendall will try and seek 'retribution'. It wont be happening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?

How do you know what Michael has asked for?? you all seem to think you know whats happening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 25, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?

How do you know what Michael has asked for?? you all seem to think you know whats happening

wha??? I was talking to you and no one else. And for the record I know feck all apart from what the rumor mill has told me about what was allegedly said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on June 25, 2015, 12:29:27 AM
Red dog, I don't know what illusion u are under friend or no friend, his mother was beside the St. John's subs who laughed when it was said, same mother went to him at the end off the match, the St. John's captain came to the changing room after the match, a St. John's player walked off with the cushendall players rather than stay to celebrate his teams win as he was ashamed, one off our younger players got head butted after the final whistle, it seems that u have no concern for the comment made and how it would have affected the said player, how would you feel if something like this was said to you? St. John's people have said it was said, it is a downright disgrace and u sticking up for it, when a number off people heard it is silly 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:38:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 25, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 24, 2015, 04:45:26 PM
Taking what you are saying reddog and believing this to be a truth..... I would be up in arms with the accuser and putting the pressure on him and his club to apologize for maliciously concocting such deviously slanderous accusations.

I assume you would agree?

How do you know what Michael has asked for?? you all seem to think you know whats happening
Michael has gave his views to the people that matter. there is no evidence of it happening. He is actually annoyed that I am replying to some of these people on here as he has no time for them and its probably right that I am only giving them more chance to rant and rave but as a mate I cant stand by. He has denied doing it..theres nothing to prove he did and he doesn't deserve to be tried and his name ruined on a public forum. apologies if I misinterpreted what you said

wha??? I was talking to you and no one else. And for the record I know feck all apart from what the rumor mill has told me about what was allegedly said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on June 25, 2015, 12:41:56 AM
Quote from: cushendall on June 25, 2015, 12:29:27 AM
Red dog, I don't know what illusion u are under friend or no friend, his mother was beside the St. John's subs who laughed when it was said, same mother went to him at the end off the match, the St. John's captain came to the changing room after the match, a St. John's player walked off with the cushendall players rather than stay to celebrate his teams win as he was ashamed, one off our younger players got head butted after the final whistle, it seems that u have no concern for the comment made and how it would have affected the said player, how would you feel if something like this was said to you? St. John's people have said it was said, it is a downright disgrace and u sticking up for it, when a number off people heard it is silly
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you don't name someone and conduct a campaign against him without proof. frankly because a mum said it doesn't make a difference. You need to prove he did it,michael doesn't need to prove he didn't do it. frankly you have become nothing better than a mob. The lad is a good person does no harm to anyone and doesn't deserve a campaign like this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on June 25, 2015, 12:46:12 AM
I don't think you seem to understand that it was infact said, there are a number of witnesses, why would somebody make something like this up, he being your friend you are obviously going to believe his word over anybody else's, but there are witnesses and the truth will come out in the end. I understand it may have happened in the heat off things but even at that only a sc**bag would say something like that,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 25, 2015, 06:34:07 AM
Reddog is full of brown shite!!!!!   He's a coward and sc**bag.   Team mates have agreed he said it.   Do the right thing FFS!!!!!     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 25, 2015, 09:20:45 AM
If team mates have said he said, spectators heard him say it, the player he said it to heard him say it and have all stated as such, what other evidence could you ask for bar a video recording.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 25, 2015, 10:55:02 AM
Did he return to county training on Tuesday night?

Actually did anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 25, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
The player he said it to heard it, players on the opposing team heard it, players on the St John's team heard it, the St John's subs heard it and his own mother heard it.  The debate as to whether or not it was said is over.

Reddog your lies on here trying to weasel out of it make you as big a disgrace as he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 26, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 25, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 25, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
The player he said it to heard it, players on the opposing team heard it, players on the St John's team heard it, the St John's subs heard it and his own mother heard it.  The debate as to whether or not it was said is over.

Reddog your lies on here trying to weasel out of it make you as big a disgrace as he is.
My goodness, the county secretary has spoken.  Glad to see you have brought closure to the debate and confirmed that the Cushendall player actually said what he said.

I'm not sure you're following...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 26, 2015, 10:14:20 PM
Well Reddog, what are the plans for tomorrow's match? Will it be your now usual bad  behaviour, or will you be coming to Hurl?  We have spoken with our management who promise not to play Campbell in Defense in case he has to mark any of your superstars, esp the most natural hurler in Ulster!!!
On our side I'd say we are well short, injuries and a few on Hols. Being a hurling fan I hope it's a good game without our water boy acting the dick and your clown shutting his mouth.

Does anybody know what the turnout was at County training the other night, any new blood?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 26, 2015, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 26, 2015, 10:14:20 PM
Well Reddog, what are the plans for tomorrow's match? Will it be your now usual bad  behaviour, or will you be coming to Hurl?  We have spoken with our management who promise not to play Campbell in Defense in case he has to mark any of your superstars, esp the most natural hurler in Ulster!!!
On our side I'd say we are well short, injuries and a few on Hols. Being a hurling fan I hope it's a good game without our water boy acting the dick and your clown shutting his mouth.

Does anybody know what the turnout was at County training the other night, any new blood?
Yeah, the good news is CJ has had a blood transfusion, the bad news is they have not found a brain to match it! Rumour is also, all the Johnnies players are having their mouths duct taped, oops!  And all the Cushendall players are going to wear ear muffs - Problem sorted, simples!  Fitzy is then going to borrow the duct tape for next Saturday for CJ  and the Fermanagh players want to borrow the ear muffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 26, 2015, 11:23:24 PM
Thanks Shoebox, some good talent at u21s, pity big Donal Nugent away in US he would be a very useful addition,
Any news on The McQuillans management story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2015, 01:12:42 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 26, 2015, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 26, 2015, 10:14:20 PM
Well Reddog, what are the plans for tomorrow's match? Will it be your now usual bad  behaviour, or will you be coming to Hurl?  We have spoken with our management who promise not to play Campbell in Defense in case he has to mark any of your superstars, esp the most natural hurler in Ulster!!!
On our side I'd say we are well short, injuries and a few on Hols. Being a hurling fan I hope it's a good game without our water boy acting the dick and your clown shutting his mouth.

Does anybody know what the turnout was at County training the other night, any new blood?
Yeah, the good news is CJ has had a blood transfusion, the bad news is they have not found a brain to match it! Rumour is also, all the Johnnies players are having their mouths duct taped, oops!  And all the Cushendall players are going to wear ear muffs - Problem sorted, simples!  Fitzy is then going to borrow the duct tape for next Saturday for CJ  and the Fermanagh players want to borrow the ear muffs.
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 27, 2015, 01:24:54 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 26, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 26, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 25, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 25, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
The player he said it to heard it, players on the opposing team heard it, players on the St John's team heard it, the St John's subs heard it and his own mother heard it.  The debate as to whether or not it was said is over.

Reddog your lies on here trying to weasel out of it make you as big a disgrace as he is.
My goodness, the county secretary has spoken.  Glad to see you have brought closure to the debate and confirmed that the Cushendall player actually said what he said.

I'm not sure you're following...
Have no fear Franko, I'm following all right, just dandy!

Yer not ye know... never give an idiot an audience...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 27, 2015, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: Hand up on June 26, 2015, 11:23:24 PM
Thanks Shoebox, some good talent at u21s, pity big Donal Nugent away in US he would be a very useful addition,
Any news on The McQuillans management story?


A few names mentioned but nothing confirmed as far as I know.

The players have been training themselves with big numbers out - a lot of lads training who wouldn't for humpy!

I have heard - Bamba, hippy, Kojak and big Ronan donnelly all mentioned. No matter who I just hope players committ. Our committe need to realise that you just can't appoint anyone and expect results. I hope they do the right thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
I went to school with Bamba and Ronan. Fine fellows they are. Club men to the core. I don't understand why the players didn't come out for Humpy.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 27, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
I went to school with Bamba and Ronan. Fine fellows they are. Club men to the core. I don't understand why the players didn't come out for Humpy.  :-\

Would agree with you - humpy is a club man to the core too. Genuinely disappointed for him as he is a great fella and wanted to succeed. I won't go into specifics but unfortunately we have a few influential men in the club and one In particular who wants to control everything. And as a result I fear the next appointment might again be someone who he can dictate/control. Like I said previous I hope we appoint the best man for the job.

Starting to get into the serious part of the season now - championship is 7-8 weeks away. It's a two horse race AGAIN - Loughgiel and Cushendall. Loughgiel will def be favs but Cushendall won't roll over to them come semi final time. A lot will depend on loughgiels hunger and whether Mr Watson is able to regain some of his old magic. They severely missed him and Benny NcCarry last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: Leyland on June 27, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 27, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
I went to school with Bamba and Ronan. Fine fellows they are. Club men to the core. I don't understand why the players didn't come out for Humpy.  :-\

Would agree with you - humpy is a club man to the core too. Genuinely disappointed for him as he is a great fella and wanted to succeed. I won't go into specifics but unfortunately we have a few influential men in the club and one In particular who wants to control everything. And as a result I fear the next appointment might again be someone who he can dictate/control. Like I said previous I hope we appoint the best man for the job.

Starting to get into the serious part of the season now - championship is 7-8 weeks away. It's a two horse race AGAIN - Loughgiel and Cushendall. Loughgiel will def be favs but Cushendall won't roll over to them come semi final time. A lot will depend on loughgiels hunger and whether Mr Watson is able to regain some of his old magic. They severely missed him and Benny NcCarry last year

I seen a quote like that for when Ballycastle where being touted at under 21 semi finalists the other week  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 27, 2015, 02:31:08 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 27, 2015, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: Franko on June 27, 2015, 01:24:54 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 26, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 26, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 25, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 25, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
The player he said it to heard it, players on the opposing team heard it, players on the St John's team heard it, the St John's subs heard it and his own mother heard it.  The debate as to whether or not it was said is over.

Reddog your lies on here trying to weasel out of it make you as big a disgrace as he is.
My goodness, the county secretary has spoken.  Glad to see you have brought closure to the debate and confirmed that the Cushendall player actually said what he said.

I'm not sure you're following...
Have no fear Franko, I'm following all right, just dandy!

Yer not ye know... never give an idiot an audience...
Oh believe me I am. Bloody marvellous eh. You not sleeping nights either I see,  your audience will all be in bed after  1.00 a.m.

Whatever floats yer boat laddyo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 27, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
St John's by a point. Both teams missing players. Clean game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 27, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
It was a poor game with only 1/2 incidents really, Cuts pull on Carson was a joke, the red gave a Yellow when he one handed pulled of the side of his helmet!! Don't understand the refs thinking. But other than that St Johns did deserve to win. Cushendall where not at it although missing Niel, Graffin, Shane, Ryan, Natty, Sean, David ,Sean Mc Afee, Christy, McClaff, and the Jonnies also missing a host, ''twas more like a reserve match. Bradley didn't make it funny enough, although he was in with Wee Joe denying all!! Also heard a High Profile Dall member reported for calling wee Jackie a Monkey FFs!!
after the antics of them!!
On The Town, Big Ronan is s good man manager although doing a lot with the kids, he also has a big company now so time a problem , would Bamba have the players respect? What about Robin Clarke?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 28, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Who is wee Jackie? Our game against St. Johns was poor enough. Simon McCrory bossed the match from start to finish, we had nobody that could deal with him. Even with all the missing players we are off the pace at the minute, need to get it together quickly or Loughgiel will win the championship at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 11:07:36 AM
Our prospective county chairperson.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 28, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Is Loughiel v Ballycran on today @ 3.30PM?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2015, 05:14:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 28, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
Who is wee Jackie? Our game against St. Johns was poor enough. Simon McCrory bossed the match from start to finish, we had nobody that could deal with him. Even with all the missing players we are off the pace at the minute, need to get it together quickly or Loughgiel will win the championship at a canter.
::) lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
UMHC Antrim 4-18 Down 1-8
So much for Downs Dev Sq push, they have been talking themselves up for a few years now, and as usual, not delivering!!
I wasn't there but heard the first half was a good show the 2nd no so good, but it's a results business.
I would hope the seniors show a bit of fight today fortnight, couldn't bear Down celebrating(or the clowns they have managing them!!
Any reports in today's matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 28, 2015, 08:56:08 PM
How about we all take a deep breath and count to ten?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
UMHC Antrim 4-18 Down 1-8
So much for Downs Dev Sq push, they have been talking themselves up for a few years now, and as usual, not delivering!!
I wasn't there but heard the first half was a good show the 2nd no so good, but it's a results business.
I would hope the seniors show a bit of fight today fortnight, couldn't bear Down celebrating(or the clowns they have managing them!!
Any reports in today's matches
Antrim won at a canter, down missing young Sands, Davison and probably a few more. Not sure what is going on there. Young James McNaughton was the stand out player for us. One notable absentee for us as well which is sad to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2015, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
UMHC Antrim 4-18 Down 1-8
So much for Downs Dev Sq push, they have been talking themselves up for a few years now, and as usual, not delivering!!
I wasn't there but heard the first half was a good show the 2nd no so good, but it's a results business.
I would hope the seniors show a bit of fight today fortnight, couldn't bear Down celebrating(or the clowns they have managing them!!
Any reports in today's matches
Antrim won at a canter, down missing young Sands, Davison and probably a few more. Not sure what is going on there. Young James McNaughton was the stand out player for us. One notable absentee for us as well which is sad to see.

Who would that have been then? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on June 28, 2015, 10:01:43 PM
Could anyone post up the Antrim minor team from today?

Was up watching Carey v Glenariffe tonight - decent game and another good win for Carey. They are moving nicely and missing a few key players still. The intermediate Cship will be a close one this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 28, 2015, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 07:57:25 PM
UMHC Antrim 4-18 Down 1-8
So much for Downs Dev Sq push, they have been talking themselves up for a few years now, and as usual, not delivering!!
I wasn't there but heard the first half was a good show the 2nd no so good, but it's a results business.
I would hope the seniors show a bit of fight today fortnight, couldn't bear Down celebrating(or the clowns they have managing them!!
Any reports in today's matches
Antrim won at a canter, down missing young Sands, Davison and probably a few more. Not sure what is going on there. Young James McNaughton was the stand out player for us. One notable absentee for us as well which is sad to see.

Who would that have been then?
Butler from Ballycastle has decided not to bother but its not a hanging offence at the end of the day. you'd rather see him there but sure....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
TT wouldn't Committ and the last thing we need is ANOTHER talent with commitment issues??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 28, 2015, 11:18:11 PM
Aontroim Minor Team
1. Ryan Elliott Dunloy
2. Odhran McKenna St. John's
3. Donal Carey Cregan
4. Conor Carson St. John's
5. Joe Maskey St endas
6. Gerard Walsh Rossa
7. Sean duffin randalstown
8. Cathal mcmullan loughgeil
9. Keelan Malloy Dunloy
10. James McNaughton loughgeil
11. Christmas McNaughton Cushendall
12. Conor Patterson oisins
13. Conal Cunning Dunloy
14. Jack Daniels Sarsfields
15. Ryan McKee loughgeil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 28, 2015, 11:21:50 PM
Christmas McNaughton, Sunday nite jungle juice by any chance??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 28, 2015, 11:37:33 PM
Auto spellcheck needs spell checked  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on June 28, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 28, 2015, 11:18:11 PM
Aontroim Minor Team
1. Ryan Elliott Dunloy
2. Odhran McKenna St. John's
3. Donal Carey Cregan
4. Conor Carson St. John's
5. Joe Maskey St endas
6. Gerard Walsh Rossa
7. Sean duffin randalstown
8. Cathal mcmullan loughgeil
9. Keelan Malloy Dunloy
10. James McNaughton loughgeil
11. Christmas McNaughton Cushendall
12. Conor Patterson oisins
13. Conal Cunning Dunloy
14. Jack Daniels Sarsfields
15. Ryan McKee loughgeil

Thanks for that. Some nice players involved. There are def a few notable absentees.
A good win. Derry will be tougher opposition I expect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on June 28, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 28, 2015, 11:18:11 PM
Aontroim Minor Team
1. Ryan Elliott Dunloy
2. Odhran McKenna St. John's
3. Donal Carey Cregan
4. Conor Carson St. John's
5. Joe Maskey St endas
6. Gerard Walsh Rossa
7. Sean duffin randalstown
8. Cathal mcmullan loughgeil
9. Keelan Malloy Dunloy
10. James McNaughton loughgeil
11. Christmas McNaughton Cushendall
12. Conor Patterson oisins
13. Conal Cunning Dunloy
14. Jack Daniels Sarsfields
15. Ryan McKee loughgeil

Thanks for that. Some nice players involved. There are def a few notable absentees.
A good win. Derry will be tougher opposition I expect.

No Slaughtneil players listed on the derry panel seems unusual, bound to have a couple at county standard??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2015, 11:56:35 PM
Number 14 for Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on June 29, 2015, 12:06:25 AM
Jack Daniels, sarsfields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2015, 09:03:35 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 28, 2015, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on June 28, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 28, 2015, 11:18:11 PM
Aontroim Minor Team
1. Ryan Elliott Dunloy
2. Odhran McKenna St. John's
3. Donal Carey Cregan
4. Conor Carson St. John's
5. Joe Maskey St endas
6. Gerard Walsh Rossa
7. Sean duffin randalstown
8. Cathal mcmullan loughgeil
9. Keelan Malloy Dunloy
10. James McNaughton loughgeil
11. Christmas McNaughton Cushendall
12. Conor Patterson oisins
13. Conal Cunning Dunloy
14. Jack Daniels Sarsfields
15. Ryan McKee loughgeil

Thanks for that. Some nice players involved. There are def a few notable absentees.
A good win. Derry will be tougher opposition I expect.

No Slaughtneil players listed on the derry panel seems unusual, bound to have a couple at county standard??

AFAIK Slaughtneil have some issue with the Derry set up and arent fully engaged at the moment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Thank the lord that seems to have irritated more than just me then  ;)

Think I would have to agree with you on this one Skull might not have been the intention of CPC but it definitely looks like a bit of a spin off unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 29, 2015, 09:06:44 AM
Some of the better CPC players would be overage for minor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2015, 09:23:13 AM
our game yday v st Galls was poor enough. Thought the ref was a bit over fussy with the fouls that were being called. It wasnt as bad as the Lgiel game the previous sat night mind you. We made hard work of it but did enough to get the win.

whos the st galls keeper by the way. hes completely nuts lol he spent half the time running up over the 21 yrd line playing one twos with the st galls players! lol he was pure entertainment value
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
JC good win for down at the weekend. Derry were expecting to challenge for ulster i think.

I assume there's a typo and the CHF is not really called christmas ;-)

A few familiar surnames on that team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Interesting points - issues issues issues when hurling should be the only issue.
Young lads far too quick to have an opinion of themselves nowadays and/or adults using them for their own agenda.
I can't get my head round a lad of minor age not playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on June 29, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Sorry Skull - wrong on both accounts.

Number 12 Conor Patterson is CPC. Plus a few others on the panel. So certainly no agenda from CPC. As someone else mentioned alot of CPC players are not minors. As for the lad who hasnt committed - thats personal choice i assume. But certainly no agendas or message being put out not to play for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 29, 2015, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
JC good win for down at the weekend. Derry were expecting to challenge for ulster i think.

I assume there's a typo and the CHF is not really called christmas ;-)

A few familiar surnames on that team.

Yeah, good enough win, but may well come up short in a week or so's time. Good to see the three main forwards doing the scoring on Sunday were are our lads who're going well for the club.

I think we're playing the Dall in a friendly this Sunday..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on June 29, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Sorry Skull - wrong on both accounts.

Number 12 Conor Patterson is CPC. Plus a few others on the panel. So certainly no agenda from CPC. As someone else mentioned alot of CPC players are not minors. As for the lad who hasnt committed - thats personal choice i assume. But certainly no agendas or message being put out not to play for Antrim.

Thanks for that clarification Cromagh. Wrongly assumed the young lad Patterson was St Killians. Also young Diarmaid McShane came off the bench as well. Just to clarify something myself though.... an agenda is something that is planned .... I suggested an unintended consequences...2 very different things.

Is the full list on minor panelists available anywhere?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 29, 2015, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on June 29, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Sorry Skull - wrong on both accounts.

Number 12 Conor Patterson is CPC. Plus a few others on the panel. So certainly no agenda from CPC. As someone else mentioned alot of CPC players are not minors. As for the lad who hasnt committed - thats personal choice i assume. But certainly no agendas or message being put out not to play for Antrim.

Thanks for that clarification Cromagh. Wrongly assumed the young lad Patterson was St Killians. Also young Diarmaid McShane came off the bench as well. Just to clarify something myself though.... an agenda is something that is planned .... I suggested an unintended consequences...2 very different things.

Is the full list on minor panelists available anywhere?
I don't know what messages you are talking about but maybe the message from the school or parents is that the lads have had a long year playing for the school, then club and adding to that mix A-levels so dropping county minor is sensible. I don't know, but on one hand we can't talk about player burnout (especially when playing multiple grades at club, school and then county) and then question their commitment if they don't play on every team going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2015, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 29, 2015, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on June 29, 2015, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 09:02:18 AM
Every individual has a right to make their own decisions but there's a strangely poor representation from some areas and I'm wondering what's behind it?

I'm counting 0 players from #cpc #allirelandchampions

Is that because #theyactuallybelievetheyredifferent?

Maybe reading it wrong but has there been an unintended consequence of the messages being pumped into that talented bunch of players?

So much for competitive schools helping to strengthen county team.

Plenty of decent minor teams this year IMO so the strength in depth means we can still put out a good side.

Sorry Skull - wrong on both accounts.

Number 12 Conor Patterson is CPC. Plus a few others on the panel. So certainly no agenda from CPC. As someone else mentioned alot of CPC players are not minors. As for the lad who hasnt committed - thats personal choice i assume. But certainly no agendas or message being put out not to play for Antrim.

Thanks for that clarification Cromagh. Wrongly assumed the young lad Patterson was St Killians. Also young Diarmaid McShane came off the bench as well. Just to clarify something myself though.... an agenda is something that is planned .... I suggested an unintended consequences...2 very different things.

Is the full list on minor panelists available anywhere?
I don't know what messages you are talking about but maybe the message from the school or parents is that the lads have had a long year playing for the school, then club and adding to that mix A-levels so dropping county minor is sensible. I don't know, but on one hand we can't talk about player burnout (especially when playing multiple grades at club, school and then county) and then question their commitment if they don't play on every team going.

Are we talking about 17/18 year olds? Has the world went mad ffs!! Burn out is what happens in your 60's ffs! you can train and play away and provided its proper training  and diet then a lad of that age can be playing 3/4 games a week. its an amateur sport that most kids will probably stop playing mid 20's and its not down to 'burn out' its down to women/drink/drugs and can't be arsed syndrome
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 02:11:43 PM
Well I'm starting with the assumptions that
A) Every school catering to this age group does A levels (or leaving certs)
B) Focus on developing and maintaining competitive school teams form part of successfully counties ongoing development structures

Strange mentioning burn out when the majority of that starting minor team are dual players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Thanks for that MR2.
I couldn't agree more!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 29, 2015, 02:38:13 PM
It would be fact that Cassidy in CPC is has been less than helpful behind the scene , not so much in public,  again as stated in previous posts another manager getting his pound of flesh for his own CV, less about player development.
The County Management are sensible men and have accomadated players from the clubs and nursed them through as best as possible so I'm my mine there is no excuse good enough!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 29, 2015, 02:44:54 PM
I'm not throwing specific accusations in any direction as I have none to throw. It just stood out as an anomaly to me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 29, 2015, 03:19:42 PM
Its maybe because most of the fellas that came through the CPC regime are injured/carrying injuries. Think the heavy weight training etc has taken its toll on a few of them. Lads that age injured with back pain, something not right..................

But at the same time they won an all Ireland, maybe that's what is required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2015, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 29, 2015, 03:19:42 PM
Its maybe because most of the fellas that came through the CPC regime are injured/carrying injuries. Think the heavy weight training etc has taken its toll on a few of them. Lads that age injured with back pain, something not right..................

But at the same time they won an all Ireland, maybe that's what is required.

To permanently damage your back? Do parents know this practice goes on? Its an amateur sport ffs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on June 29, 2015, 07:45:57 PM
So am told the St Johns man has been infront of the County Board and is denying all.  :o
So that's that.  Coward also.   Not shocked as anyone who goes down that route hasnt much about them anyway if you ask me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 29, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
I said at the very start of this that how the player & St Johns handle this was now the important think.
If they brush it under the carpet then it's says everything about both. And we are doomed for the same type of thing to happen in the same club. Nothing new there and so disappointing as it's another thing that prevents their talent from making the grade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 30, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on June 29, 2015, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 29, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
I said at the very start of this that how the player & St Johns handle this was now the important think.
If they brush it under the carpet then it's says everything about both. And we are doomed for the same type of thing to happen in the same club. Nothing new there and so disappointing as it's another thing that prevents their talent from making the grade.
St. Johns have a long and well documented history of this sort of thing and have a high prevalence of disgusting and thuggish behaviour.  One fears it is a badge they are somewhat proud of, which is extremely unfortunate and disappointing.  This most recent episode certainly does not endear them to the support or respect of other other clubs in the county.  It has to be said that, if their club management structure condones such behaviours and brush such incidents under the carpet, you would then have to question the type of example they are demonstrating to young people in their stewardship??

As with most things in GAA if he wasn't a star player he would be firmly disciplined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 30, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 30, 2015, 09:23:22 AM
What was said (if said) is completely out of order and the young lad should have apologised. If what was said is true, there isn't much lower someone can go and I'd say the entire country would agree with that BUT let's not go manic about things here. There are people here tarring an entire club with the same brush here over comments made by one Under 21 player. St John's are a very good GAA club with some of the best people in the world as members. Claims about 'well documented histroy' etc is bullshit. There isn't a club in Antrim that hasn't had some incidents where people have seriously let their clubs and the GAA down.

Some of you have had turns at calling this lad a 'sc**bag' but two wrongs don't make a right. Due process took place apparently and we have to let that be the case no matter your strong feelings on it. But ffs stop running down an entire club over it.

Have to disagree.
It's the actions of one person - up until the point the point where the club as a whole doesn't confront and deal with the incident.
Now the club is complicit.
So yes, the whole club is tarnished now.
It goes back to my point about how the issue is dealt with becoming important.
And unfortunately, it is true this is not the first instance of things like this.
Shameful.
Whilst I personally know some fine Gaels in St. Johns it begs the question of how they factor this in their club. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on June 30, 2015, 10:32:57 AM
Good to hear that paddy McNaughton is heading back to the dall for the summer, be a big boost for them come C'ship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2015, 02:43:27 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 30, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 30, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 30, 2015, 09:23:22 AM
What was said (if said) is completely out of order and the young lad should have apologised. If what was said is true, there isn't much lower someone can go and I'd say the entire country would agree with that BUT let's not go manic about things here. There are people here tarring an entire club with the same brush here over comments made by one Under 21 player. St John's are a very good GAA club with some of the best people in the world as members. Claims about 'well documented histroy' etc is bullshit. There isn't a club in Antrim that hasn't had some incidents where people have seriously let their clubs and the GAA down.

Some of you have had turns at calling this lad a 'sc**bag' but two wrongs don't make a right. Due process took place apparently and we have to let that be the case no matter your strong feelings on it. But ffs stop running down an entire club over it.

Have to disagree.
It's the actions of one person - up until the point the point where the club as a whole doesn't confront and deal with the incident.
Now the club is complicit.
So yes, the whole club is tarnished now.
It goes back to my point about how the issue is dealt with becoming important.
And unfortunately, it is true this is not the first instance of things like this.
Shameful.
Whilst I personally know some fine Gaels in St. Johns it begs the question of how they factor this in their club.

I disagree with you. How 'the club' have dealt with it is a massive statement. Firstly 'the club' will more likely be the committee. I wasn't there, I didn't hear it. Were you? Also the way incidents are dealt with are fairly straight forward. Incident happens. Committee get person to attend a meeting to discuss said incident. Said person gives his side of the story and the club proceed from there.

Whether or not that process is effective or indeed justified, it shouldn't allow people like yourself to run down an entire club.

Do we say the same of the Rasharkin club after the referee was attacked, Loughiel after the fence jumping incident, St Pauls and Cargin after their brawl OR do we say some people within that club let themselves down?

All clubs punished in those incidents mentioned... Look let it go lads... Its been dealt with and this happens ffs... On some sort of level in every game at all ages... You hear supporters saying some hurtful things too and they manage to get away with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 30, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: shoebox on June 30, 2015, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 30, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: shoebox on June 30, 2015, 09:23:22 AM
What was said (if said) is completely out of order and the young lad should have apologised. If what was said is true, there isn't much lower someone can go and I'd say the entire country would agree with that BUT let's not go manic about things here. There are people here tarring an entire club with the same brush here over comments made by one Under 21 player. St John's are a very good GAA club with some of the best people in the world as members. Claims about 'well documented histroy' etc is bullshit. There isn't a club in Antrim that hasn't had some incidents where people have seriously let their clubs and the GAA down.

Some of you have had turns at calling this lad a 'sc**bag' but two wrongs don't make a right. Due process took place apparently and we have to let that be the case no matter your strong feelings on it. But ffs stop running down an entire club over it.

Have to disagree.
It's the actions of one person - up until the point the point where the club as a whole doesn't confront and deal with the incident.
Now the club is complicit.
So yes, the whole club is tarnished now.
It goes back to my point about how the issue is dealt with becoming important.
And unfortunately, it is true this is not the first instance of things like this.
Shameful.
Whilst I personally know some fine Gaels in St. Johns it begs the question of how they factor this in their club.

I disagree with you. How 'the club' have dealt with it is a massive statement. Firstly 'the club' will more likely be the committee. I wasn't there, I didn't hear it. Were you? Also the way incidents are dealt with are fairly straight forward. Incident happens. Committee get person to attend a meeting to discuss said incident. Said person gives his side of the story and the club proceed from there.

Whether or not that process is effective or indeed justified, it shouldn't allow people like yourself to run down an entire club.

Do we say the same of the Rasharkin club after the referee was attacked, Loughiel after the fence jumping incident, St Pauls and Cargin after their brawl OR do we say some people within that club let themselves down?

So it's the fault of just the guy in question - and the committee?
The committee is elected by members and all that - but more pertinently they are guided by general feeling in the club. It seems the general consensus at Corrigan is stuff everything and look after ourselves. And it's not the first time - under different committees.
So my point stands.
Like I say - I've friends on the whiterock - who have conceded the incident did happen - they too are tarnished by the incident and its subsequent non-handling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 30, 2015, 03:38:00 PM
how a club handles a serious incident is a reflection on the clubs image. Its happened to every club at some stage and those that fail to stamp it out and deal with the offenders or the incident will be looked upon poorly in everyones eyes. Further more to the onlooked its taken that they have condoned what happened IMO.

If people from within the club have admitted the incident happened as you say btgtdtt then the player in question should hang his head in shame for what he did. Admitting your wrong isnt easy and admitting it and dealing with it takes guts, sadly it seems these are lacking in this man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 30, 2015, 06:54:32 PM
That's fine shoebox I get your point - but how the club has handled it means the name of the club is degraded and not just the player. I really see it as that simple.
The fine Gaels you mentioned I assume made their feeling known to St. John's committee - if they were ignored then that says a lot.
They may not have stolen that car but they certainly didn't help recover it either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 30, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
Could I appeal to everyone's good nature here? Enough is enough. This has got out of hand and let's leave it alone. These things can seem like innocent debate and people are entitled to opinions but remember they can also end very badly. Move on boys, please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 30, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
Agree it should be moved on. I won't condone for a second what the player allegedly said....If so it was horribly wrong....but we have all said and done things we regret.

The offender in this case may not know of Gaaboard or be aware of the extent of the sentiments.  But if he was I would say he is genuinely disgusted with the way he let himself and his club down and would be most unlikely to offend again.

There are people on here well connected to both the player and the offended party (family) with a big St Johns/ C'dall connection. Surely it can't be that difficult to pm the contact details of the offended to the friends of the accused in the hope that a full forthright and undiluted apology us made, person to person, privately behind the scenes. Should be enough maturity involved to get this done with a bit of commonsense and sensitivity.

After that let the lad get on with his life. We all make mistakes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on June 30, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 30, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
Could I appeal to everyone's good nature here? Enough is enough. This has got out of hand and let's leave it alone. These things can seem like innocent debate and people are entitled to opinions but remember they can also end very badly. Move on boys, please.
I couldn't agree more. I wish to retract all that I have said on this matter and profoundly apologise.  One of the drawbacks of social media I suppose.  People get carried away and dont think of the consequences.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 30, 2015, 09:39:50 PM
I was told that a few of the St Johns players apologised on Saturday night to the C'Dall player. While the offender may not be punished by Club/or County i'm sure it'll be sorted out on another day. Unfortunately the offender could have avoided this but his lack of remorse and actions means he will never be forgiven.
I feel sorry for the genuine good St John's club members for what this has done to their clubs image.

It's time to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
Great second half performance by the shamrocks. Beat st John's 0-26 to 0-13 after it was 0-10 each at half time. Good to see Mr. Watson coming on in the second half after a long injury and getting a couple of points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
Great second half performance by the shamrocks. Beat st John's 0-26 to 0-13 after it was 0-10 each at half time. Good to see Mr. Watson coming on in the second half after a long injury and getting a couple of points.

Was a decent game in the first half. Bit like a basketball game, point for point... To rattle off 6 unanswered points at the start of the second half killed the game.... Some over play by the shamrocks but nice to watch all the same.... To be noted the Johnnies were missing a few
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 02, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
defeat again for us at home. way too many mistake cost us tho to be fair we didnt look like winning.

we dont have the forwards and with nigel elliott and kevin mc quillian out with injury long term and added to that kevin molloy out yet again with injury it doesnt bode well. Shorty didnt play last week and we had to bring him on last night and Paddy doherty had to also play even tho he was injured.

It was that bad that we had a corner back playing in the forwards to fill the positions out! Loads of great young lads at 17 but its too much to expect them to all come in now and be expected to pick up the slack.

Whens the season over again????? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
Great second half performance by the shamrocks. Beat st John's 0-26 to 0-13 after it was 0-10 each at half time. Good to see Mr. Watson coming on in the second half after a long injury and getting a couple of points.

Was a decent game in the first half. Bit like a basketball game, point for point... To rattle off 6 unanswered points at the start of the second half killed the game.... Some over play by the shamrocks but nice to watch all the same.... To be noted the Johnnies were missing a few
To be noted we were missing a few ourselves.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
Great second half performance by the shamrocks. Beat st John's 0-26 to 0-13 after it was 0-10 each at half time. Good to see Mr. Watson coming on in the second half after a long injury and getting a couple of points.

Was a decent game in the first half. Bit like a basketball game, point for point... To rattle off 6 unanswered points at the start of the second half killed the game.... Some over play by the shamrocks but nice to watch all the same.... To be noted the Johnnies were missing a few
To be noted we were missing a few ourselves.  ;)

Couple of handy hurlers came on thou. JC and Winker.. The young lads did ok and so good to get game time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2015, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
Great second half performance by the shamrocks. Beat st John's 0-26 to 0-13 after it was 0-10 each at half time. Good to see Mr. Watson coming on in the second half after a long injury and getting a couple of points.

Was a decent game in the first half. Bit like a basketball game, point for point... To rattle off 6 unanswered points at the start of the second half killed the game.... Some over play by the shamrocks but nice to watch all the same.... To be noted the Johnnies were missing a few
To be noted we were missing a few ourselves.  ;)

Couple of handy hurlers came on thou. JC and Winker.. The young lads did ok and so good to get game time
Tiernan Coyle, Neilly McGarry, James Campbell, Scully and Joey all were missing. Johnny and Winker came in with 15 left. That's almost half the team out or  coming back from injury. Done rightly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 02, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 02, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
defeat again for us at home. way too many mistake cost us tho to be fair we didnt look like winning.

we dont have the forwards and with nigel elliott and kevin mc quillian out with injury long term and added to that kevin molloy out yet again with injury it doesnt bode well. Shorty didnt play last week and we had to bring him on last night and Paddy doherty had to also play even tho he was injured.

It was that bad that we had a corner back playing in the forwards to fill the positions out! Loads of great young lads at 17 but its too much to expect them to all come in now and be expected to pick up the slack.

Whens the season over again????? lol
Bad result for Dunloy DR, bloody hell I though performance was beginning to improve?  I'd have to agree about the young fellas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on July 02, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
Division2 really exciting this year. Lots of evenly matched teams there with the Ballygalget being the standouts so far.Some change around for Gort na mona from last year with. Creggan doing good too, would be my pick for the championship

Division 3 taking shape now as well. St Endas underage success starting to show through now. Good to see as they have put in some effort over the years. Lamh Dhearg having another terrible and whatever has happened to Glenarm? Wasnt that long they were competing with and beating the likes of Ahoghill and look at the two clubs now. Both going in the complete opposite directions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 02, 2015, 11:42:09 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on July 02, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
Division2 really exciting this year. Lots of evenly matched teams there with the Ballygalget being the standouts so far.Some change around for Gort na mona from last year with. Creggan doing good too, would be my pick for the championship

Division 3 taking shape now as well. St Endas underage success starting to show through now. Good to see as they have put in some effort over the years. Lamh Dhearg having another terrible and whatever has happened to Glenarm? Wasnt that long they were competing with and beating the likes of Ahoghill and look at the two clubs now. Both going in the complete opposite directions

From what I can gather Glenarm have been hit very badly with lads working away, I think 6/7 work down south or in Scotland. I see the McDermott brothers have signed for Glenariffe to so maybe all isn't well up feystown way. Sad to see as they are decent hurling people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on July 03, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
Yeah, heard a couple of their lads had went to Glenariffe. Must be something behind the scenes unfortanutely. They had a lot of young promising hurlers at a time. The year they held the feis (2009 i think) they had an exceptional u16 team. But it doesnt seem to have carried on to senior which is a pity but a lot of clubs in antrim find themselves frustrated by the same problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 03, 2015, 12:36:24 AM
Glenarrife recruiting for IHC minder?
Lamh Dearg are well on their way to becoming a single code club and apart from a few steadfast ash men - I'm not sure there's much appetite to change that!
Great to see St Endas advancing and much deserved - I fear there is a ceiling in their progress but they are at least striving to reach their potential. How many clubs can say that!
Both divisions 2 and 3 certainly enjoy more competitive meaningful games that division 1 - more to play for across the teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 03, 2015, 09:39:33 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 02, 2015, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 02, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
defeat again for us at home. way too many mistake cost us tho to be fair we didnt look like winning.

we dont have the forwards and with nigel elliott and kevin mc quillian out with injury long term and added to that kevin molloy out yet again with injury it doesnt bode well. Shorty didnt play last week and we had to bring him on last night and Paddy doherty had to also play even tho he was injured.

It was that bad that we had a corner back playing in the forwards to fill the positions out! Loads of great young lads at 17 but its too much to expect them to all come in now and be expected to pick up the slack.

Whens the season over again????? lol
Bad result for Dunloy DR, bloody hell I though performance was beginning to improve?  I'd have to agree about the young fellas.

Yeah its too early to be putting so many in IMO. next year when they are 18 i would think is time enough but watching Eoin O'Neill and Caolan Molloy in our reserves at the min (both 17) they are flying in it so next year they will be well up to whats expected of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 03, 2015, 01:47:52 PM
Carey have won 5 in a row including wins against Glenariffe and Gort Na Mona. Some of those wins with big players missing. That's serious form in such a competitive division. Tam and Cubby have them playing really well. Tenacious at the back and ball winners up front.  They would be one of those sides who potentially could have been in the bottom 4 this year....not now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 03, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: shoebox on July 03, 2015, 01:22:22 PM
I tell you what, Dunloy and Ballycastle may start getting results because St Galls seem to be putting big scores up even when they are being beat and that type of scoring ability will eventually see them win some games.  I can see them taking another scalp or two.  How big is the game between Rossa and St Galls on the 19th?

Division 2 is a good league with a lot of teams capable of beating eachother but I wouldn't fancy any of them to be capable of competing in Division 1.  Most of those clubs haven't much coming through minor or under 21 and therein lies their perennial problems.  It's a shame to see Sarsfields where they are.  They were beat again by Gort on Wednesday night and with the new structuring going to happen next year, they will need to make sure they are above the bottom 4 or it could spell disaster for them for a few years.

I agree. were not playing well and losing players, experienced ones at that. Just got news today that Shane Dooey is def out now after hurting his knee in a football match a few weeks ago it was confirmed that his cruicate is gone again. Thats yet another forward out again along with Nigel, Kevin Molloy and Kevin McQuillian with Shorty and Paddy Doc on the short term injury list. 6 forwards all injured  :o

def cursed some how lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 03, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 03, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: shoebox on July 03, 2015, 01:22:22 PM
I tell you what, Dunloy and Ballycastle may start getting results because St Galls seem to be putting big scores up even when they are being beat and that type of scoring ability will eventually see them win some games.  I can see them taking another scalp or two.  How big is the game between Rossa and St Galls on the 19th?

Division 2 is a good league with a lot of teams capable of beating eachother but I wouldn't fancy any of them to be capable of competing in Division 1.  Most of those clubs haven't much coming through minor or under 21 and therein lies their perennial problems.  It's a shame to see Sarsfields where they are.  They were beat again by Gort on Wednesday night and with the new structuring going to happen next year, they will need to make sure they are above the bottom 4 or it could spell disaster for them for a few years.

I agree. were not playing well and losing players, experienced ones at that. Just got news today that Shane Dooey is def out now after hurting his knee in a football match a few weeks ago it was confirmed that his cruicate is gone again. Thats yet another forward out again along with Nigel, Kevin Molloy and Kevin McQuillian with Shorty and Paddy Doc on the short term injury list. 6 forwards all injured  :o

def cursed some how lol
Thats a bad blow for Dunloy all right DR, especially getting down to the business end of the season.  Certainly a lot of scoring power gone.  Even with Shorty and a short term injury, you are fairly well depleted up front.  Looks like its down to the Dall and Shamrocks to battle it out for supremacy, although stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on July 04, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
Good win against Portaferry for Ronan in his first game as manager. Finished 0-18 to 1-11. Won the reserve game as well. Lifts the atmosphere going forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 04, 2015, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on July 04, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
Good win against Portaferry for Ronan in his first game as manager. Finished 0-18 to 1-11. Won the reserve game as well. Lifts the atmosphere going forward.

Good win considering all the circumstances. Delighted Ronan has taken the reigns. Players seemed to respond although both teams were missing quite a few. But a massive 2 points for us. Let's hope we can build on it. We have a lot of catching up to do with fitness etc. Good win for reserves as well. A lot of lads back playing again so it's all positive. Hopefully clarkie, Stoogie & Saul will be back soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 04, 2015, 11:55:50 PM
So just for the fun of it - who do we think the two teams will be that contest the county final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on July 05, 2015, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 04, 2015, 11:55:50 PM
So just for the fun of it - who do we think the two teams will be that contest the county final?

Loughgiel and one from the other side of the draw 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 05, 2015, 07:47:53 PM
Well I am glad I went to Croker instead of Brewster Park, Canning's goal was with the journey and the admission fee alone.  Another diabolical result by the footballers/handballers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 06, 2015, 10:57:09 AM
"What is the objective here? Is the objective for the next 40 years to have an All-Ireland championship where only three counties can win it? Because we've had that for the last 40 years. If that's what they want, let them stand up and be honest and say it. And we'll all go away and do something else."

It seems Cheddar is singing from the same hymn sheet as ourselves.

Logically when you sit back and look at it you would have to wonder what is going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 06, 2015, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 06, 2015, 10:57:09 AM
"What is the objective here? Is the objective for the next 40 years to have an All-Ireland championship where only three counties can win it? Because we've had that for the last 40 years. If that's what they want, let them stand up and be honest and say it. And we'll all go away and do something else."

It seems Cheddar is singing from the same hymn sheet as ourselves.

Logically when you sit back and look at it you would have to wonder what is going on.
NAG, that's all a bit random, don't you think?  What is it your drinking man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 06, 2015, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 06, 2015, 10:57:09 AM
"What is the objective here? Is the objective for the next 40 years to have an All-Ireland championship where only three counties can win it? Because we've had that for the last 40 years. If that's what they want, let them stand up and be honest and say it. And we'll all go away and do something else."

It seems Cheddar is singing from the same hymn sheet as ourselves.

Logically when you sit back and look at it you would have to wonder what is going on.
The way things have been done and are getting done. Wouldn't matter to Antrim.  we will not win anything in the next 40!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 07, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
chedder is speaking sense though. The championship is dominated by one team this past 15 years in Kilkenny. They have been in 12 of the last 15 finals with Tipp and Cork next best on around 5 & 4 themselves.

Theres only been a couple of finals no involving them, most recently Clare v Cork, but you have to go back to 1996 for the last one that didnt involve the top 3 teams. Thats nearly 20 years ago!

Lets be honest though, the top brass dont care about grass roots hurling in the weaker counties so long as they are getting the big cash in from the show piece finals between the top 3 teams. I was at the drawn final between Tipp and Kilkenny and it was an unreal game, why would the GAA want to change anything when thats on show?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 07, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
Who else has deserved to be there??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 07, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 04, 2015, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on July 04, 2015, 08:46:19 PM
Good win against Portaferry for Ronan in his first game as manager. Finished 0-18 to 1-11. Won the reserve game as well. Lifts the atmosphere going forward.

Good win considering all the circumstances. Delighted Ronan has taken the reigns. Players seemed to respond although both teams were missing quite a few. But a massive 2 points for us. Let's hope we can build on it. We have a lot of catching up to do with fitness etc. Good win for reserves as well. A lot of lads back playing again so it's all positive. Hopefully clarkie, Stoogie & Saul will be back soon.
Good to see Ronan getting the chance. Like I said previously, I don't understand what the problem was with humpy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 07, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 07, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
Who else has deserved to be there??

no one has and that should be a problem for those in charge of the development of the game.

Its not liable to change in the near future either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 09, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
New Antrim GAA Website

(http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/general/visitantrim.jpg) (http://antrim.gaa.ie)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on July 09, 2015, 10:32:10 PM
Just seen the County Team and Panel, and just saved myself £20!! Much as I love watching and supporting our Lads I couldn't watch the Johnnies dwarf lift the Ulster Senior title, that Antrim Panel has no chance I'm afraid!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2015, 09:19:35 AM
team hasnt been posted up yet. Hes seen the county panel it says from his post and has decided to not support them based on whos on it.

Support them when their winning it seems.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 10, 2015, 10:06:55 AM
Some Score for Loughgiel last night against St Galls 8.27 to 0.2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2015, 10:17:34 AM
Belfast team/July/Away Match/Against the best team in the County/

Was never going to be pretty. How did you play MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 10, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: MoChara on July 10, 2015, 10:06:55 AM
Some Score for Loughgiel last night against St Galls 8.27 to 0.2
You would expect they (St. Galls) would be embarrassed?  Do they not know to play with a goalkeeper?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 10, 2015, 10:46:13 AM
Full back line set up like this?  :o

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mYnbi4arTWo/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 10, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: shoebox on July 09, 2015, 10:40:34 PM
Can you post the team?

According to Antrim F/Book

1. C O'Connell     
2. O McFaddden 
3. M Donnelly     
4.T. O'Ciarain   

5. J Dillon           
6. C.McKinley     
7. T McCann     

8. N McAuley
9. E McAlonan

10.  N Mc Kenna
11. C McCann
12. E. Campbell

13. D McClean
14. C. Carson
15. D McKernan

16. C Heyden
17. R McCambridge
18. P Burke
19. M Dudley
20 . T Burns
21. J Connolly
22. C Ross
23. D. Traynor
24. Patrick McBride
25. Paul Sheils
26. PJ O'Connell

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
shortys injured hence why he doesnt start. Tho he will prob make an appearance at some point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 10, 2015, 12:06:47 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 10, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: MoChara on July 10, 2015, 10:06:55 AM
Some Score for Loughgiel last night against St Galls 8.27 to 0.2
You would expect they (St. Galls) would be embarrassed?  Do they not know to play with a goalkeeper?

judging by how mental their keeper was the last time i seen him he was prob half way up the pitch most of the night! lol good keeper all the same.

Lgiel are on a roll now and look unstoppable. Its prob the first time in a long time that not one person ive spoken to from another club can see anything other than a Lgiel title.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 10, 2015, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: shoebox on July 10, 2015, 11:43:37 AM
Ryan McCambridge back to good health? PJ back on the panel?

Ryan seems to be.. Pj has being going well for the club apparently, also I thought McAlonan was on holidays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 10, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
The amount of average club players in that squad is frightening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 10, 2015, 10:17:34 AM
Belfast team/July/Away Match/Against the best team in the County/

Was never going to be pretty. How did you play MR?

I was away on hols!! Seems everyone else was also!! That's as bad a score I've ever seen... Fair fcuks to Loughgiel for not holding back and laying down a marker for championship  ;)

Well, in life you get out of it what you put in..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 10, 2015, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 10, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
The amount of average club players in that squad is frightening.

Shows the level the county is at when you get a phone call the week before an Ulster final. Fair play to those who got the call though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 10, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
St Galls never started and Loughgiel were pretty ruthless. Think there'll be tighter games before all is said and done.
Antrim panel is full of good hurlers but not all inter county standard, wouldn't surprise me If they were turned over. Win lose or draw the manager has to go. I haven't seen kevin ryan at a match in a long time and he relies totally on other identifying hurlers, especially regarding the under 21 team, I am aware of a number of very suitable players in the county that he didn't know even existed.
In my opinion we need someone who knows who the hurlers are, can think outside his own club and just bring a bit of common sense to it to start with, other areas can be improved on if the basic structures are set in place first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 10, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2015, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: wino on July 10, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
St Galls never started and Loughgiel were pretty ruthless. Think there'll be tighter games before all is said and done.

I'm putting this down to the already imbalance teamsheets being magnified by the date. Or do St Galls being deducted points reduce their interest to copper-fasten relegation acceptance?

Antrim panel is full of good hurlers but not all inter county standard, wouldn't surprise me If they were turned over. Win lose or draw the manager has to go.

I remember being chastised on this forum when calling for his head as we had to "accept this was our level

I haven't seen kevin ryan at a match in a long time and he relies totally on other identifying hurlers, especially regarding the under 21 team, I am aware of a number of very suitable players in the county that he didn't know even existed.
In my opinion we need someone who knows who the hurlers are, can think outside his own club and just bring a bit of common sense to it to start with, other areas can be improved on if the basic structures are set in place first.

Dinny Cahill also called up some ridiculous names. I think some southern coaches look down on our level and believe it's only they who can raise ability here anyway!

Sorry - sorted - g.e.n.t
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 11, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 10, 2015, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: wino on July 10, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
St Galls never started and Loughgiel were pretty ruthless. Think there'll be tighter games before all is said and done.

I'm putting this down to the already imbalance teamsheets being magnified by the date. Or do St Galls being deducted points reduce their interest to copper-fasten relegation acceptance?

Antrim panel is full of good hurlers but not all inter county standard, wouldn't surprise me If they were turned over. Win lose or draw the manager has to go.

I remember being chastised on this forum when calling for his head as we had to "accept this was our level

I haven't seen kevin ryan at a match in a long time and he relies totally on other identifying hurlers, especially regarding the under 21 team, I am aware of a number of very suitable players in the county that he didn't know even existed.
In my opinion we need someone who knows who the hurlers are, can think outside his own club and just bring a bit of common sense to it to start with, other areas can be improved on if the basic structures are set in place first.

Dinny Cahill also called up some ridiculous names. I think some southern coaches look down on our level and believe it's only they who can raise ability here anyway!
We heard you the first time btdtgtt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 12, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Well done to the minors & seniors today. Hard one for the seniors to get motivated for...win & they get no praise. Lose & they get dogs abuse.

Anyway thank god the year is over. Time for a new manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)

Just because it is the 'munster final' doesnt automatically make good.

Today was mediocre at best and one of the worst in recent memory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 12, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)

Just because it is the 'munster final' doesnt automatically make good.

Today was mediocre at best and one of the worst in recent memory.

Aww lads come on da fcuk!
On the way home from the game - you have to feel for the deise! Such a young team to fight like that against seasoned all-Ireland contenders! Heart-broken.

Nag - u are totally wrong.
Just because it's the Munster final DOES make it good. The buzz in the square and the walk to the park are magical.
In terms of the hurling - the intensity was there for all to see. Every player squeezing every fibre of their being for every ball.
Waterford didn't take the goal chances - and in the melting pot Tipperary took their points. That's all that's was in it.

It was didn't have goals but by God it was a battle and I appreciated that from players. Some of the skill at high speed in contact was all there. I can't even give credence to anyone who didn't appreciate gleeson and tadgh de burca today.

As for the worst final in recent memory?
What age are you?

Limerick and cork had 9 or 10 points between them masked only by the treaty celebrations - and I can never forget the 7 goal drubbing tipp put on Waterford.

I saw the score from the Antrim game - anything of interest?
When are the next club fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)

Just because it is the 'munster final' doesnt automatically make good.

Today was mediocre at best and one of the worst in recent memory.

Aww lads come on da fcuk!
On the way home from the game - you have to feel for the deise! Such a young team to fight like that against seasoned all-Ireland contenders! Heart-broken.

Nag - u are totally wrong.
Just because it's the Munster final DOES make it good. The buzz in the square and the walk to the park are magical.
In terms of the hurling - the intensity was there for all to see. Every player squeezing every fibre of their being for every ball.
Waterford didn't take the goal chances - and in the melting pot Tipperary took their points. That's all that's was in it.

It was didn't have goals but by God it was a battle and I appreciated that from players. Some of the skill at high speed in contact was all there. I can't even give credence to anyone who didn't appreciate gleeson and tadgh de burca today.

As for the worst final in recent memory?
What age are you?

Limerick and cork had 9 or 10 points between them masked only by the treaty celebrations - and I can never forget the 7 goal drubbing tipp put on Waterford.

I saw the score from the Antrim game - anything of interest?
When are the next club fixtures?

I think you may have spent a little too long in the square before the game,  you are buying into the Munster final mythology.

Yeah the game was intense as are most championship matches,  Callanan scoreless from play,  not one shot at either keeper in the whole 70,  basic errors from both teams and the game littered with bad bad club wides.

Have a look back at it tomorrow when the southern air has subsided slightly and you may actually have a different opinion.

Even the RTE pundits at half time couldnt believe some of the play but maybe since they were all trying so hard that makes up for it  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)

Just because it is the 'munster final' doesnt automatically make good.

Today was mediocre at best and one of the worst in recent memory.
::)  The Munster final is an occasion. Steeped in history. The match itself wasn't fantastic but the atmosphere and the craic around it we're immeasurable. What was it like at owenbeg?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 12, 2015, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 12, 2015, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 12, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 12, 2015, 03:07:20 PM
You got to love the Munster final hi.  8)

Just because it is the 'munster final' doesnt automatically make good.

Today was mediocre at best and one of the worst in recent memory.

Aww lads come on da fcuk!
On the way home from the game - you have to feel for the deise! Such a young team to fight like that against seasoned all-Ireland contenders! Heart-broken.

Nag - u are totally wrong.
Just because it's the Munster final DOES make it good. The buzz in the square and the walk to the park are magical.
In terms of the hurling - the intensity was there for all to see. Every player squeezing every fibre of their being for every ball.
Waterford didn't take the goal chances - and in the melting pot Tipperary took their points. That's all that's was in it.

It was didn't have goals but by God it was a battle and I appreciated that from players. Some of the skill at high speed in contact was all there. I can't even give credence to anyone who didn't appreciate gleeson and tadgh de burca today.

As for the worst final in recent memory?
What age are you?

Limerick and cork had 9 or 10 points between them masked only by the treaty celebrations - and I can never forget the 7 goal drubbing tipp put on Waterford.

I saw the score from the Antrim game - anything of interest?
When are the next club fixtures?

I think you may have spent a little too long in the square before the game,  you are buying into the Munster final mythology.

Yeah the game was intense as are most championship matches,  Callanan scoreless from play,  not one shot at either keeper in the whole 70,  basic errors from both teams and the game littered with bad bad club wides.

Have a look back at it tomorrow when the southern air has subsided slightly and you may actually have a different opinion.

Even the RTE pundits at half time couldnt believe some of the play but maybe since they were all trying so hard that makes up for it  ;)

I won't get the Sunday game until tomorrow nag but I just don't accept it wasn't a good game.
Sure, we all love to see the net shaking in a 4-18 to 4-17 thriller but look at the game again - there was plenty of skill to enjoy and serious intensity - much more than others so far. Not everyone's cup of tea maybe (positional tactics coming so much more into the game) but I can't accept it was a bad/poor game.

And as for the worst in recent memory? Come on now!

Put it this way - you can agree it's the best standard of hurling Owen Elliot has been involved with for a while!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
Someone put up the Antrim team from yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 13, 2015, 10:22:12 AM
You have to give it to the lads yesterday, despite a mediocre team they produced a result when everyone had written them off.  So another meaningless. Ulster championship for Antrim!  Strengthens Johnston's case in that, Antrim should not be permitted safe passage to an Ulster final.  Maybe our recent misfortunes has something to do with not playing Dall and Galls men, dont play them and Antrim win.

I have to agree with NAG, watched the Munster Final last night when I got home, certainly a buzz about Semple stadium, but very ordinary and not very exciting.

Well off on my hols again for the next two weeks, dont kick off the revolution without me, I may be in a position to  secure a good hurling sponsor, but it has some pre-requisites and dependencies?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 13, 2015, 10:32:24 AM
Have to say mediocre is the word for it, if it wasn't for the down keeper making a clanger in the first 5 minutes and the lines man getting the Down point wrong at the end who knows what the outcome would have been. I don't think they even tried in the first half almost taking it for granted a mate of mine even saying to me you'd think this was the team trying to get rid of Ryan themselves.

Antrim won with Ryan McCambridge, Connor Carson playing and Paddy Burke coming on as a sub so Cushendall where represented with who they had fit.

My match hightlight was the man on the Tannoy shouting "jesus" and "how tha frig do you say that"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 13, 2015, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: MoChara on July 13, 2015, 10:32:24 AM
Have to say mediocre is the word for it, if it wasn't for the down keeper making a clanger in the first 5 minutes and the lines man getting the Down point wrong at the end who knows what the outcome would have been. I don't think they even tried in the first half almost taking it for granted a mate of mine even saying to me you'd think this was the team trying to get rid of Ryan themselves.

Antrim won with Ryan McCambridge, Connor Carson playing and Paddy Burke coming on as a sub so Cushendall where represented with who they had fit.

My match hightlight was the man on the Tannoy shouting "jesus" and "how tha frig do you say that"  ;D ;D ;D
Apologies, I was alluding to the high profile Dall and Galls men, if you know what I mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 13, 2015, 10:56:36 AM
And Eoghanin Campbell too  :P

I presume you're talking about Graffin and McManus being missing from a Cushendall side, I'd have thought a bit more leadership would have sured Antrim up in the first half but then again possibly the tactics of the first half were too confusing in themselves, moving players all around the park, leaving Down with a sweeper who mopped everything from our 3/4 line up.

Where's Ciaran Clarke? Did I hear right he went to the States for the summer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on July 13, 2015, 05:25:56 PM
I thought ( I may be wrong ) that Mcmanus and Graffin were both injured and had not played for Cushendall recently. As far as i know Ciaran clarke is in America along with 4 or 5 other Ballycastle regulars.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 13, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
They're just injured. It was far from a first choice antrim team so it was actually a very good win. Nit sure how many you would call regulars on the first 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 13, 2015, 06:46:03 PM
I see we have Dublin in the minor quarter final. Would love it if we could give them a serious go for 60 minutes. It seems they were a bit unlucky in the Leinster final and give us a fair trimming in the Leinster League so it will be a serious challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 13, 2015, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 13, 2015, 06:46:03 PM
I see we have Dublin in the minor quarter final. Would love it if we could give them a serious go for 60 minutes. It seems they were a bit unlucky in the Leinster final and give us a fair trimming in the Leinster League so it will be a serious challenge.
Wouldnt have been our 1st 15 in the league to be fair but a big challenge for us nonetheless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 20, 2015, 09:59:44 AM
I believe I have spoke of the Johnnies on more than one occasion shoebox!
Certainly the pick of the Belfast teams.
Rossa's win last night puts them firmly above St Galls in the urban pecking order but St John's can claim top dogs in that mythical competition.
Division 2's annual superior competitiveness is muted this year howeve with the promotion/relegation non-entity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Quote from: shoebox on July 20, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
They're scoring well but most importantly getting wins. They always seemed to be on the wrong side of tight games for a few years but seemed to hsve turned a corner but like Ballycastle will probably always be also rans in the SHC.

Re: Div 2. No promotion is a cat one but the relegation of 4 teams should make the bottom/mid part of the table very competitive.

Lads they have done much the same for the past 10/15 years, hard to beat at home on their day on the road tricky enough.

Come championship the wheels fall off and they have no answers and bow out meekly and end up talking about the great under age teams coming through - dont see anything other than this happening again this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on July 20, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
Quote from: shoebox on July 20, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
This must be the longest this page has been quiet for.

Surprised nobody has commented on the Johnnies this year. They seem to be motoring well and getting wins that they wouldn't have got last year. The St Gall's 4 point deduction has killed off any excitement at the bottom of Div 1.

Loughgiel out and out favourites for the Championship this year.

Division 2 starting to take more shape now. Looks like Cloughmills and Armoy the teams to join Cushendun and St Paul's in Div 3 next year. Sarsfields will (for the sake of hurling) get their act together and get the wins needed to stay up.  Top of table predictable from the start kf the year apart for GNM. I expected them to struggle after just avoiding relegation last year but hats off to them. Glenariffe still the best in that league after Ballygalget in my eyes.

Ossian's for the Championship there.

Heard that this 4pt deduction was overturned due to technicality!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on July 20, 2015, 01:15:41 PM
Quote from: shoebox on July 20, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
This must be the longest this page has been quiet for.

Surprised nobody has commented on the Johnnies this year. They seem to be motoring well and getting wins that they wouldn't have got last year. The St Gall's 4 point deduction has killed off any excitement at the bottom of Div 1.

Loughgiel out and out favourites for the Championship this year.

Division 2 starting to take more shape now. Looks like Cloughmills and Armoy the teams to join Cushendun and St Paul's in Div 3 next year. Sarsfields will (for the sake of hurling) get their act together and get the wins needed to stay up.  Top of table predictable from the start kf the year apart for GNM. I expected them to struggle after just avoiding relegation last year but hats off to them. Glenariffe still the best in that league after Ballygalget in my eyes.

Ossian's for the Championship there.

I haven't looked at division two this year, so just had a look at the table and fixtures there on the county website. I didn't realise it is so tight in the whole league. Cushendun and St Paul's are gone really. looks like the top three of Ballygalget, Glenariffe and Gortnamona have no relegation worries. The rest are all in the dog fight to make it into the top 6. Everyone is taking 8 points from the 4 games against Cushendun and St Paul's. Noticed Sarsfields have a game in hand and still have to play St Paul's twice and Cushendun once so would think 6 points for them from those games. Armoy should beat Cushendun this Sunday to take them to 12 points, level with Carey and Creggan. Creggan have a game in hand V Cushendun which they should win to take them to 14 points.

Big game for Cloughmills this Sunday against Carey, a real relegation 4 pointer. If Carey win it they should pull clear, if Cloughmills win it I would say Carey are back in the relegation fight. All very tight, looks like it will go to the last fixture to decide the four relegated.  Ballygalget are way ahead of anyone else in that league, I see they are hammering everyone, they beat Carey by 17 points yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 20, 2015, 10:59:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 20, 2015, 10:12:28 AM
Quote from: shoebox on July 20, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
They're scoring well but most importantly getting wins. They always seemed to be on the wrong side of tight games for a few years but seemed to hsve turned a corner but like Ballycastle will probably always be also rans in the SHC.

Re: Div 2. No promotion is a cat one but the relegation of 4 teams should make the bottom/mid part of the table very competitive.

Lads they have done much the same for the past 10/15 years, hard to beat at home on their day on the road tricky enough.

Come championship the wheels fall off and they have no answers and bow out meekly and end up talking about the great under age teams coming through - dont see anything other than this happening again this year.

Very true. Unfortunately indisputable. It's a Belfast thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 21, 2015, 08:15:34 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on July 20, 2015, 01:15:41 PM
Quote from: shoebox on July 20, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
This must be the longest this page has been quiet for.

Surprised nobody has commented on the Johnnies this year. They seem to be motoring well and getting wins that they wouldn't have got last year. The St Gall's 4 point deduction has killed off any excitement at the bottom of Div 1.

Loughgiel out and out favourites for the Championship this year.

Division 2 starting to take more shape now. Looks like Cloughmills and Armoy the teams to join Cushendun and St Paul's in Div 3 next year. Sarsfields will (for the sake of hurling) get their act together and get the wins needed to stay up.  Top of table predictable from the start kf the year apart for GNM. I expected them to struggle after just avoiding relegation last year but hats off to them. Glenariffe still the best in that league after Ballygalget in my eyes.

Ossian's for the Championship there.

I haven't looked at division two this year, so just had a look at the table and fixtures there on the county website. I didn't realise it is so tight in the whole league. Cushendun and St Paul's are gone really. looks like the top three of Ballygalget, Glenariffe and Gortnamona have no relegation worries. The rest are all in the dog fight to make it into the top 6. Everyone is taking 8 points from the 4 games against Cushendun and St Paul's. Noticed Sarsfields have a game in hand and still have to play St Paul's twice and Cushendun once so would think 6 points for them from those games. Armoy should beat Cushendun this Sunday to take them to 12 points, level with Carey and Creggan. Creggan have a game in hand V Cushendun which they should win to take them to 14 points.

Big game for Cloughmills this Sunday against Carey, a real relegation 4 pointer. If Carey win it they should pull clear, if Cloughmills win it I would say Carey are back in the relegation fight. All very tight, looks like it will go to the last fixture to decide the four relegated.  Ballygalget are way ahead of anyone else in that league, I see they are hammering everyone, they beat Carey by 17 points yesterday.

With the players we got back which we didn't have last year Div2 isn't doing us any good this year. Not saying we're world beaters but there's a huge gap between Div1 and Div2.

Next years Div2 will hopefully be different, with two out of Div1 making it more competitive, still need to win our way out of it though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 21, 2015, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: shoebox on July 21, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Therein lies the need for a competitive, standard raising Division for clubs who are not at the Loughiel/Cushendall standard but by playing St Paul's/Cushendun is of no value to them whatsoever, which is what we have next year. Unfortunately for you, Ballygalget are in Division 2 on merit and while being the pick if Division 2 is one thing, you were beaten by Glenariffe and run close by GNM so do you really think you would be at Division 1 standard? Next year will be a good standard for that league with St Gall's and Clooney Gaels back in it and will test with more Glenariffesque opposition and less Cushendunesque teams. Good luck in the Down championship anyway.

I think you're agreeing with me and you're entirely right, we were hovering in and around the bottom of Div1 for a few years, saved once by a change in the structure and deserve to be where we are, no arguing there.
The small issue I have was how the Antrim CCC dealt with how to reduce the leagues to 8 teams by offering no promotion when the Cushendall option made sense of doing it over two years with two going down and one coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on July 21, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
So what about these underage games coming up? Are Derry expected to provide a challenge tomorrow night in Ulster U21 Final? Our minors went as well as expected in Ulster but Dublin is a big step up. Have we a fighting chance against them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 21, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
I'd say the Un21s will be good enough to beat Derry. I watched them last week against Armagh & although they weren't tested at all they showed a real desire and will to win.

Don't know enough about Dublin, but hopefully the minors show some pride and have a go. No doubt Ciaran and the management will have it hammered home that work rate and performance will be key.

Whats the general view on Kevin Ryan? Do we keep him on or do we look elsewhere? Is there anybody from within the county to take up the reins?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on July 21, 2015, 11:42:51 PM
The u21 should beat Derry Handy, although the same problem as the seniors, we could all name players who should be there but aren't committing, although a lot more at this level than senior!! And nothing to do with Neil Mc Manus this time!! Leading to my next point on Loughgiels Seamus Heaney , Wankers article in the Antrim Daily Sport as it commonally know now for its gutter trash was embarrassing, plenty of problems and the only solution, hit more hurling balls!! Genius !!
The minors could be a tough one again some players chose to go on hols rather than play!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2015, 12:47:18 AM
Don't waste the chatter on league structures lads - they'll change again soon anyway!
Personally I think last season was the worst outcome i can remember as an Antrim fan - I can't figure out how Kevin Ryan can keep that job. It just can't be justified.
If someone is able can they post watsons article?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 22, 2015, 09:00:23 AM
i seen it advertised on monday night on the Antrim Post twitter feed and thought it was going to be this wide reaching and hard hitting article.

It was the back page and more of a rant. Total waste of time and a load of nonsense that we already all knew with no solutions to the problems. I was looking forward to reading it to see what he had to say but it was much ado about nothing, much like his column (short lived) he had in the Antrim Post. Stick to hurling Liam, its what your best at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on July 22, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
The Watson article was rubbish, a discredit to a normally decent paper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 22, 2015, 07:01:57 PM
The County Antrim Post is a complete gutter rag. Anyone serious about hurling wouldn't look near it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
We're just missing one more poster for Bingo.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 22, 2015, 09:03:16 PM
'county antrim post is a gutter rag' looks like quite a few of you bought it!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 22, 2015, 10:33:29 PM
It costs a quid. Its a bit like The Sunday World, you buy it for the comedy value. It'll give you a laugh every Tuesday. In relation to Liam Watson's latest thoughts on Antrim's senior hurling team... I know Liam is one of the most naturally gifted hurlers ever to emerge in Ulster. When he commits and trains properly for a few months he is almost unplayable. At club level for Loughgiel he has been sensational over the last five years. His greatest moment for Antrim, the 6 excellent points from play against Cork in Croke Park, was also his a low point given he was sent off with 10 minutes to go with the game still in the melting pot. He isn't getting any younger as far as the county scene goes. If and when a new manager comes in will he commit and give 100%? Even for a full season? I'd really love to see him do it. He is happy enough to slate guys who, at 27 years of age have already given a decade of unbroken service to the county no matter what the results. No Ballymena FC, no Donegal Celtic, no transfers to Dublin or anything else. He probably has a couple of years at county level to either put up or shut up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
Sadly that game against cork was never in the melting pot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 23, 2015, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
We're just missing one more poster for Bingo.  :P

lol to be fair the article is utter nonsense. If your going to have a go then great go ahead but at least come up with a solution thats well thought out to solve the problem, not just say the obvious that everyone already knew.

I actually expected, after reading the back page, to open up and get a full interview over the two pages of all that's right and wrong in antrim hurling but that was it. A complete waste of a page. It looks like someone interviewed him as he was at the shop and asked him for a quick opinion ffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 23, 2015, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 23, 2015, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
We're just missing one more poster for Bingo.  :P

lol to be fair the article is utter nonsense. If your going to have a go then great go ahead but at least come up with a solution thats well thought out to solve the problem, not just say the obvious that everyone already knew.

I actually expected, after reading the back page, to open up and get a full interview over the two pages of all that's right and wrong in antrim hurling but that was it. A complete waste of a page. It looks like someone interviewed him as he was at the shop and asked him for a quick opinion ffs.
the point being that not every one accepts there's anything wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on July 23, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
I agree that its not much of an interview and we all know winkers written/spoken word leaves a lot to be desired but I'm glad that they ran with this article. The reason I'm glad is that we (on here) all know what the issues are (as pointed out by Liam) but there are a lot of people in this county who are totally unaware of what's going on. They need to be reminded and the more times people tell them about the problems and source of the problems within this county the quicker we can all get together, change it and move forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2015, 12:21:16 PM
Point being a lot of people are happy to bury the head in the sand because Liam isn't well liked in parts of the county.   But I'll give the artical 10/10 for stating facts.  Maybe so he should have went on and gave a few solutions.   No doubt he'd have a few worth listening to with him being a good hurling man.  But sure we will be back to reading about the happy campers next year and all the sand hogs will be happy again.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on July 23, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Tbh the article was spot on and there was no lies told so how anybody can slag winker for tellin the truth I don't know. Don't think the solutions to the countys problems are rocket science either just basically gettin the whole senior set up organised properly and have someone with enough foresight to think for themselves and look past the petty jealousies that exist between our clubs. As for the county Antrim post whilst it's hurling coverage at times mightn't be wholly accurate it's prob the only paper in Antrim that gives us any decent coverage( Belfast prob has andytown news). Not bad for a quid!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 23, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
no ones having a go at Liam for the what he said, its the article in general that were having a go at.

its starts off as this be all and end all of statements revealing all about the state of Antrim hurling but instead it was the same old stuff we have all heard before. If they wanted to do it right then get his opinions on how to put it right or his perception of the way forward.

It was a poor article that was my point.

I would be interested to hear various opinions on the way forward rather than become stagnant on the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 23, 2015, 08:45:35 PM
Some of you must have lifted a different paper than me. He didn't make one single useful or insightful comment in the entire article. I don't think anyone is burying their head in the sand. Antrim hurling people know we had a terrible season, we know the way we are coached and the way we played needs to chance to get back into 1B and The Liam Mc Carthy. We need a new manager at the helm no doubt about that. At the start of next season we'll have players willing to put their shoulder to the wheel for the good of our county. Will Liam The Messiah, the oracle of all hurling knowledge  be one of them? I wouldn't hold my breath...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Sure anything he said was correct?  No??  Your a fool, full of hatred!!!  That's the problem.  Sure Captain fantastic is laughable to most outside of your own little town. There, he is high and mighty and truth be told, he's been there yes, but what the f**k has he ever done that's so outstanding for antrim hurling??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 23, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
It's good to have you back JJ, now you've more time on your hands.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 12:59:34 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Sure anything he said was correct?  No??  Your a fool, full of hatred!!!  That's the problem.  Sure Captain fantastic is laughable to most outside of your own little town. There, he is high and mighty and truth be told, he's been there yes, but what the f**k has he ever done that's so outstanding for antrim hurling??

The hot headed response of an immature child,

Some maturity in these discussions wouldn't go amiss but it would appear parochial loyality and petty squabbles is the order of the day for some. Happy to keep the trade going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 07:58:06 AM
If we had more with his attitude and commitment we might be in a better place than we are now. There is a group of players, Neil Mc Manus, Arron Graffin, Neil Mc Auley, Shorty, boys like that who have given everything they had to Antrim over the past 9-10 years. You can ask no more from anyone. Have we got the results we wanted? No but the fellas I have mentioned are certainly not the problem. I hope Liam Watson recovers from his injury and along with a few other Loughgiel lads, commits and hurls for our county next year. They'd make a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 24, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Not having read it - sounds to me that watson's article might be more case of bad journalism than a slant on Liam Watson.

I've made my feeling on McManus known but the notion that he is to blame for the disintegration of our county team is absurd. It's blaming our best players for not being better. If we had more of them like graffin & McAuley we would be in a better place.

So as regards those who could be better along side them - the absentees - I think it's important to note that this is something tha exists in the bog-ball code also.
Why does a county - at best mediocre - have such an issue getting players to play?
No other county has this issue annually across the board!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 24, 2015, 10:57:39 AM
Here's a photo of the article in question

(http://s8.postimg.org/ys4pao1q9/winker.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ys4pao1q9/)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 11:19:00 AM
(http://static.bips.channel4.com/bse/orig/embarrassing-teenage-bodies/embarrassing-teenage-bodies-20090617161710_625x352.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on July 24, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
Is Sleeping Giant actually Liam Watson? I have my suspicions................  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on July 24, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
Is Sleeping Giant actually Liam Watson? I have my suspicions................  ;)
Nah, the spelling is too good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: cfclg on July 24, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
Is Sleeping Giant actually Liam Watson? I have my suspicions................  ;)
for what?  Speaking a bit of truth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 03:51:10 PM
Quote from: cfclg on July 24, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
Is Sleeping Giant actually Liam Watson? I have my suspicions................  ;)
for what?  Speaking a bit of truth?

.... enough to suit your own ends with not much of an effort softening language in an attempt to try and lessen divisions. Fanning flames isn't going to help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 05:15:47 PM
What language needed softed?  I asked a few questions that's yet to be answered and I agreed with anything watson said and also said he should have gave solutions. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 05:15:47 PM
What language needed softed?   

Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 23, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Sure Captain fantastic is laughable to most outside of your own little town. There, he is high and mighty and truth be told, he's been there yes, but what the f**k has he ever done that's so outstanding for antrim hurling??

::)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
Ok.  What has he ever done that's so outstanding for antrim hurling?   That better??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 07:32:57 PM
Can anyone understand the relevance of such immature classless comments other than to just sling mud? Just in case I'm missing something?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 07:53:14 PM
Ok. Say or believe what you want.  Am all for antrim hurling.  But it works both ways.  Give respect get respect.  JJ and his buddies can come on and rip club mates of my own to shreds with there sarcasm and no all attitudes.   be there from the start. Don't play soccer. Injuries, transfers to dublin and all the dung he was spouting  when he's been there he's been an asset and to me would still be an asset.  We all agree that the size of our county we need the best 15 on the pitch and pulling the same way.  But the man that lives for the headlines is every bit as much to blame as watson,  but JJ thinks it fine because he's been there consistently,  so he can say and do what he wants.  BALLS TO THAT!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
Ah Sleeping Giant, it gets worse. Take a look back over my posts the last few days, the last few months or even years. We need Watson and several others from Loughgiel turning out for Antrim. Loughgiel have many great players. I'd have at least 4 or 5 on the county team in an ideal situation but lets get real here. Neil Mc Manus is one of the very best hurlers in the county. You can like him or loath him on a personal level but have enough class to admit he is one of our best. I want Watson, Eddie Mc Closkey, O' Connell, Odhran Mc Fadden and a few others playing for our county. Could we not pull together here? Could you not bring yourself to admit some of the Cushendall lads have a contribution to make too? Would it break your wee heart? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
Ah Sleeping Giant, it gets worse. Take a look back over my posts the last few days, the last few months or even years. We need Watson and several others from Loughgiel turning out for Antrim. Loughgiel have many great players. I'd have at least 4 or 5 on the county team in an ideal situation but lets get real here. Neil Mc Manus is one of the very best hurlers in the county. You can like him or loath him on a personal level but have enough class to admit he is one of our best. I want Watson, Eddie Mc Closkey, O' Connell, Odhran Mc Fadden and a few others playing for our county. Could we not pull together here? Could you not bring yourself to admit some of the Cushendall lads have a contribution to make too? Would it break your wee heart?
no it wouldn't.   It would delight me to see them all pull together and do the best they could for one another and the county.   I don't loath him at all.  But can you admit that both party's have to answer for the state were in and the shit that is never ending way back to when we won our first championship in many years??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2015, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
Ah Sleeping Giant, it gets worse. Take a look back over my posts the last few days, the last few months or even years. We need Watson and several others from Loughgiel turning out for Antrim. Loughgiel have many great players. I'd have at least 4 or 5 on the county team in an ideal situation but lets get real here. Neil Mc Manus is one of the very best hurlers in the county. You can like him or loath him on a personal level but have enough class to admit he is one of our best. I want Watson, Eddie Mc Closkey, O' Connell, Odhran Mc Fadden and a few others playing for our county. Could we not pull together here? Could you not bring yourself to admit some of the Cushendall lads have a contribution to make too? Would it break your wee heart?
no it wouldn't.   It would delight me to see them all pull together and do the best they could for one another and the county.   I don't loath him at all.  But can you admit that both party's have to answer for the state were in and the shit that is never ending way back to when we won our first championship in many years??
I haven't seen McManus coming out & criticising anyone in the papers or on Twitter like others have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
You obviously don't no much about the whole set up.  So best you don't comment much about it!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Nor have I seen a single comment from SG SIE etc that acknowledge that the article in question made comments that is only going to make any conciliatory moves even harder (i.e. therefore those comments should not have been printed)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2015, 10:00:29 PM
I do. I firmly believe that Ryan has to go however as others have pointed out Watson has constantly being slabbering in papers & Twitter. Someone who has the best interests of Antrim Hurling wouldn't do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 24, 2015, 10:03:31 PM
Fair play to Chrissy & Odhran for there continued super commitment to Antrim Hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 10:06:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Nor have I seen a single comment from SG SIE etc that acknowledge that the article in question made comments that is only going to make any conciliatory moves even harder (i.e. therefore those comments should not have been printed)
i commented to say I believe the article was 110% but he should have offered solutions. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 24, 2015, 10:45:44 PM
All the best to the antrim minors tomorrow and the management team. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 11:00:33 PM
We are getting there... at least on this discussion board. New manager needed who gets buy in from all sections and we'll achieve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 01:05:30 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 24, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Nor have I seen a single comment from SG SIE etc that acknowledge that the article in question made comments that is only going to make any conciliatory moves even harder (i.e. therefore those comments should not have been printed)
Tell me this Skull, since you brought me into it, Why should there have to be any conciliatory moves? What went wrong, and when, and by whom? Are you admitting something is wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 01:13:42 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 24, 2015, 11:00:33 PM
We are getting there... at least on this discussion board. New manager needed who gets buy in from all sections and we'll achieve.
I don't think anyone can argue with that JJ. Someone who actually attends games and knows the players would be a massive move forward. But don't hold your breath.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 01:46:59 AM
Its one thing knowing the players SIE. Quite another getting them all to play for one another after the prolonged sniping.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 02:20:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 01:46:59 AM
Its one thing knowing the players SIE. Quite another getting them all to play for one another after the prolonged sniping.
I'll reply to this after you reply to my question to you that you ignored.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
So who would fill the post with all the criteria that you lot have posted?

Someone who'll get respect from players
Someone with local knowledge of the our game and players
Someone who'll be true to his word
Someone who has a realistic plan
Someone who will unite clubs and players to work together
Someone who won't t**ker too much with the leagues and want to improve them
Someone who won't have a closed door attitude and take players on to panel on merit /form
Someone who'll get full backing from county board and clubs.

Now who do you believe can fill that job description... Because all that other crap that's been posted the last few days is the reason why we are shit..... Petty quibbles, no player is bigger that the team the Alfa males within the squad need to take a look at themselves also... Players should only concentrate on conditioning themselves for county hurling and not getting involved with helping out under 21 teams or talking to newspapers. 

They just need to train hard accept the plan and realise that the manager makes the decisions based on the plan he submitted to the county board, its based on that plan/set up as to why he was chosen... For me there are too many snipers within squads who THINK they know better ffs, if you know better then apply for the fecking job or just feck off.... Can do nothing about the snipers outside of the team, that just happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
So who would fill the post with all the criteria that you lot have posted?

Someone who'll get respect from players
Someone with local knowledge of the our game and players
Someone who'll be true to his word
Someone who has a realistic plan
Someone who will unite clubs and players to work together
Someone who won't t**ker too much with the leagues and want to improve them
Someone who won't have a closed door attitude and take players on to panel on merit /form
Someone who'll get full backing from county board and clubs.

Now who do you believe can fill that job description... Because all that other crap that's been posted the last few days is the reason why we are shit..... Petty quibbles, no player is bigger that the team the Alfa males within the squad need to take a look at themselves also... Players should only concentrate on conditioning themselves for county hurling and not getting involved with helping out under 21 teams or talking to newspapers. 

They just need to train hard accept the plan and realise that the manager makes the decisions based on the plan he submitted to the county board, its based on that plan/set up as to why he was chosen... For me there are too many snipers within squads who THINK they know better ffs, if you know better then apply for the fecking job or just feck off.... Can do nothing about the snipers outside of the team, that just happens
I know that Kevin Ryan doesn't fit the criteria. He came with a plan. He changed it and managed to ostracise the best players from the most successful club team in the last 25 years. The alarm bells should have been ringing then. And it wasn't as if no one was saying anything.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 10:04:36 AM
On another note, good luck to the minors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 25, 2015, 08:11:09 PM
Who did Kevin Ryan ostracise from Dunloy?  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
I think you've fallen into SIEs trap. He can go off on that tangent now. It'll save him answering MRs question of who out there is capable of handling an Antrim squad filled with its best players and get the best out of them.

Personally I don't think this person exists at the minute and it may take years (until the protagonists move off stage) to recover from this animosity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 25, 2015, 08:11:09 PM
Who did Kevin Ryan ostracise from Dunloy?  :P
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
I think you've fallen into SIEs trap. He can go off on that tangent now. It'll save him answering MRs question of who out there is capable of handling an Antrim squad filled with its best players and get the best out of them.

Personally I don't think this person exists at the minute and it may take years (until the protagonists move off stage) to recover from this animosity.

Possibly, but that's certainly the criteria we would all love...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 25, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
I propose Kofi Annan.
Boutros Boutros Ghali?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 09:20:36 PM
He's more a football man. The Dali Lama would make a good number two. Good soft skills needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 25, 2015, 09:27:24 PM
Tom Mc Clean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2015, 11:12:53 PM
Didn't know Kev got the boot, where do I apply?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 25, 2015, 11:52:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 25, 2015, 09:20:36 PM
He's more a football man. The Dali Lama would make a good number two. Good soft skills needed
I don't know. Can he be trusted?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 26, 2015, 01:10:51 AM
Lets face it, we are fcuked. The negativity is endless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2015, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 26, 2015, 01:10:51 AM
Lets face it, we are fcuked. The negativity is endless

Agreed!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I've missed nothing I see! The same old sh*t, just another day and repackaged with the same old negativity.  No wonder we are the laughing stock of the country.

If Ryan would just grow a pair and ride off into the sunset in the sunny south east, we could then commence the daunting search for the next successful failure?

As I alluded to previously, SG in my book is Watson.  Watson is damaged goods in my book at club and county level, and like McManus et al, would be better cast adrift from any future Antrim panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 25, 2015, 08:11:09 PM
Who did Kevin Ryan ostracise from Dunloy?  :P
Whoever he was told to ostracise!  A man of no substance or moral compass, letting himself be influenced and manipulated by vindictive and self serving individuals.  Such a shame really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2015, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I've missed nothing I see! The same old sh*t, just another day and repackaged with the same old negativity.  No wonder we are the laughing stock of the country.

If Ryan would just grow a pair and ride off into the sunset in the sunny south east, we could then commence the daunting search for the next successful failure?

As I alluded to previously, SG in my book is Watson.  Watson is damaged goods in my book at club and county level, and like McManus et al, would be better cast adrift from any future Antrim panel
I can categorically inform you that SG is not winker. I can also tell you that wee Benny is on his way home from Australia. Good news for loughgiel and Antrim. Oh wait..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 26, 2015, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2015, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I've missed nothing I see! The same old sh*t, just another day and repackaged with the same old negativity.  No wonder we are the laughing stock of the country.

If Ryan would just grow a pair and ride off into the sunset in the sunny south east, we could then commence the daunting search for the next successful failure?

As I alluded to previously, SG in my book is Watson.  Watson is damaged goods in my book at club and county level, and like McManus et al, would be better cast adrift from any future Antrim panel
I can categorically inform you that SG is not winker. I can also tell you that wee Benny is on his way home from Australia. Good news for loughgiel and Antrim. Oh wait..........
Just the way yous like it

Anyway obviously Ryan should go..but I wouldn't be suprised if he stayed cos the Co. Board kept him. Realistically there isn't going to be many applicants for the job should Ryan go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
Loughgiel just beat kiloughey kilcormac in a friendly in Dublin. 1-12 to 0-11. Terrible day for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 26, 2015, 01:46:41 PM
From what I hear the county board are every bit as keen to get rid of Kevin Ryan as we are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I've missed nothing I see! The same old sh*t, just another day and repackaged with the same old negativity.  No wonder we are the laughing stock of the country.

If Ryan would just grow a pair and ride off into the sunset in the sunny south east, we could then commence the daunting search for the next successful failure?

As I alluded to previously, SG in my book is Watson.  Watson is damaged goods in my book at club and county level, and like McManus et al, would be better cast adrift from any future Antrim panel
I remember you saying that alright, and I posted about it and somehow my comments were deleted.   :o. I am not Liam Watson. Just speak a lot of truth and people don't like hearing or reading the truth. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2015, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 26, 2015, 01:46:41 PM
From what I hear the county board are every bit as keen to get rid of Kevin Ryan as we are.
i believe he has to go.  But who is the right man to take us back to D1 and get the best out of the best we have to offer?  Realistically we should be going close to winning Christy Ring and hopefully close to getting back up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
Big win for ballycastle against Cushendall. Does anyone know the team line ups? Are the FBI managing Cushendall now?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 26, 2015, 08:16:40 PM
Cushendall team: 1. Eoin Gillan 2. Eoin Mc Manus 3. Paddy Burke 4. David Kearney 5. Stephen Walsh 6. Sean Delargy 7. Cormac Mc Allister 8. Eoghan Campbell 9. Ryan Mc Cambridge 10. Emmett Laverty 11. Sean Mc Afee 12. Karl Mc Keegan 13. Christy Mc Naughton 14. Donal Mc Naughton 15. Paddy Mc Gill. Mc Gill and Mc Keegan taken off injured in the first half.

The amount of players we are missing at the minute is shocking and a few on holidays this week too. Impossible to get results without 8-9 players. Hopefully a few lads back asap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on July 26, 2015, 09:22:52 PM
Was a decent performance in constant rain, we lead from start to finish. Our goal was the last score of the game. We were missing Clarkie, Stoogie, Fergus Donnelly, Dermot Donnelly and Eoin McAloanan who are all in America on holidays. Was well worth the soaking to see them win. A good start for Ronan with two wins from his first two games V Portaferry and Cushendall. Cushendall had a number missing and only seemed to have a couple of subs, so I wouldn't be getting excited about our victory. St Galls away on Wednesday night and then the major challenge of Loughgiel away on Sunday to see where we are really at. Baby steps at the moment, but progress all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 26, 2015, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 26, 2015, 08:16:40 PM
Cushendall team: 1. Eoin Gillan 2. Eoin Mc Manus 3. Paddy Burke 4. David Kearney 5. Stephen Walsh 6. Sean Delargy 7. Cormac Mc Allister 8. Eoghan Campbell 9. Ryan Mc Cambridge 10. Emmett Laverty 11. Sean Mc Afee 12. Karl Mc Keegan 13. Christy Mc Naughton 14. Donal Mc Naughton 15. Paddy Mc Gill. Mc Gill and Mc Keegan taken off injured in the first half.

The amount of players we are missing at the minute is shocking and a few on holidays this week too. Impossible to get results without 8-9 players. Hopefully a few lads back asap.
shocking bad luck with injuries jj.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 27, 2015, 07:44:25 AM
Loughgiel were gonna be hard for anyone to stop this year regardless. Unless we can get players back on the pitch very soon st. John's will beat us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 27, 2015, 08:52:03 AM
went to our game in ahoghill yday. Miserable day, cold and wet and its the end of July ffs.

really sad to come to a team in their first year in Div 1 hurling and first of all no one charging at the gate and next to no one at the game. There was more Dunloy people at the game than home team supporters, you could of put them all in about 4 cars! I drove up home from Dublin on Sunday morning to make it up home in time to get to the game and they couldnt even turn up from around the corner?

very sad to see IMO. It seems its def a football area despite the great work made by the hurlers in Cloney.

Poor enough game and a bit one sided for the most of it. Nice to see Nigel Elliott back hurling again, he makes a big difference in there. Kevin Molloy also back playing which again is another positive. Shorty also played but you can see he isnt fully fit.

Game sort of died whenever Nigel, shorty, woody etc all came up and we let the foot off the gas.

Still dont look like we are anywhere near a top team but they are trying. Tend to over complicate things at the back with this short passing carry on but we will just have to bear it out to see how we go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 27, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2015, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 26, 2015, 11:15:55 AM
I've missed nothing I see! The same old sh*t, just another day and repackaged with the same old negativity.  No wonder we are the laughing stock of the country.

If Ryan would just grow a pair and ride off into the sunset in the sunny south east, we could then commence the daunting search for the next successful failure?

As I alluded to previously, SG in my book is Watson.  Watson is damaged goods in my book at club and county level, and like McManus et al, would be better cast adrift from any future Antrim panel
I remember you saying that alright, and I posted about it and somehow my comments were deleted.   :o. I am not Liam Watson. Just speak a lot of truth and people don't like hearing or reading the truth.
I'd have to agree SG , I am all for truth and transparency, unfortunately they are not personal traits we come across frequently nowadays.  Regardless of whether you are LW or not, no odds to me, I have no axe to grind with Winker.  Keep speaking the truth anyway, eventually others may subscribe to the truth and do likewise?

And the town beat the Dall, heavens above, two wins in a row for the town, must be something in the yellow man? Good to see a bit of fight and respectability evolving in the town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
"The Truth" ..... that's funny....it's almost as if there's one version of "The Truth"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
The truth isn't the problem
It's some peoples distorted perception of reality
Same old tripe on here
Antrim minors where playing this weekend and under 21s through the week and no discussion on it at all
Some clown says something on a tacky news rag and it gets nearly 3 pages
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
The minors did very well up until about 50 minutes NAH though Dublin pulled away a bit in the end. It sounded like a decent enough performance though still a defeat obviously but at least we put up a good fight.

Who do the u21s play now? Is it wexford or munster winners? Much tighter against derry then we'd care for it I guess but hopefully they can push on. Campbell still u21 - seems to have been about a long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
The minors did very well up until about 50 minutes NAH though Dublin pulled away a bit in the end. It sounded like a decent enough performance though still a defeat obviously but at least we put up a good fight.

Who do the u21s play now? Is it wexford or munster winners? Much tighter against derry then we'd care for it I guess but hopefully they can push on. Campbell still u21 - seems to have been about a long time.

Yeah Tommy
Play Wexford on 12 sept
They will be looking for revenge Imm sure from the last semi
I was following Dublin minor game on Twitter ( club commitments ) they where 4 points in it halfway into second half
Did Dublin find another's gear or did our lads tire
11 points isn't the worst beating we got
Seems to be lot of those minors will make good seniors
Sorry for going of track and asking about something relevant to the future


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 27, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
The minors did very well up until about 50 minutes NAH though Dublin pulled away a bit in the end. It sounded like a decent enough performance though still a defeat obviously but at least we put up a good fight.

Who do the u21s play now? Is it wexford or munster winners? Much tighter against derry then we'd care for it I guess but hopefully they can push on. Campbell still u21 - seems to have been about a long time.
Wexford

Yeah Campbell still U21..he's been running around targeting players for years now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2015, 02:18:05 PM
Minors were 1-6 to 0-1 down at a stage I seen. If they'd have got off to a better start who knows? Add to that the players that could have been there but weren't.

In another county there'd be proper build up and interest in these games. In Antrim it was just another game that needed played. Our support base is shocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
The minors did very well up until about 50 minutes NAH though Dublin pulled away a bit in the end. It sounded like a decent enough performance though still a defeat obviously but at least we put up a good fight.

Who do the u21s play now? Is it wexford or munster winners? Much tighter against derry then we'd care for it I guess but hopefully they can push on. Campbell still u21 - seems to have been about a long time.

Yeah Tommy
Play Wexford on 12 sept
They will be looking for revenge Imm sure from the last semi
I was following Dublin minor game on Twitter ( club commitments ) they where 4 points in it halfway into second half
Did Dublin find another's gear or did our lads tire
11 points isn't the worst beating we got
Seems to be lot of those minors will make good seniors
Sorry for going of track and asking about something relevant to the future

It's much more interesting than "the truth" NAH!

Yeah it was tight up to the 40-50 minutes but then they pulled away. I think sometimes, even if we're close to the level of southern teams, we tire a bit as they've more games against higher quality opposition and are much mroe up to the pace of the game due to that.

Wexford are handy - that FF wil be hard to watch. 1-10 against KK plus assists in a fe wother goals and setting up a lot. He cleaned the senior team out last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Thanks for the report tommy
Yeah fitness levels and sometimes we have to work harder than the other team to try and contain them which expends energy
If Dublin go deeper into the minor championship we can take some heart from it

Wexford might be a bridge to far this time but a close final score would be good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Thanks for the report tommy
Yeah fitness levels and sometimes we have to work harder than the other team to try and contain them which expends energy
If Dublin go deeper into the minor championship we can take some heart from it

Wexford might be a bridge to far this time but a close final score would be good

I wasn't at it but just followed it on twitter.Don't get to as many games as I would like these days unfortunately.

Be interesting to see how the dubs do later on alright.

Yes I think the u21s have a tough task but then you never know as I think we would have said that the year we made the final. I think this wexford crop of u21s is the best to come out of their county for a while and they've high hopes for them in their county. Still - you never know. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 27, 2015, 03:05:36 PM
Hate to say this but u21s are going to get smashed. They didnt impress too much against Derry who didnt get the opportunity to train together before that match.

at least 15 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 27, 2015, 03:46:20 PM
From what I heard of the minor game Dublin ran away with it and took their foot of the pedal and when Antrim came back to within reach Dublin took off again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 27, 2015, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 27, 2015, 03:05:36 PM
Hate to say this but u21s are going to get smashed. They didnt impress too much against Derry who didnt get the opportunity to train together before that match.

at least 15 points

Unfortunately, I think the above is the reality.

Fair play to the minors. Again, like others here, was only following it on twitter but at 1-4 to 0-0 after 8 minutes was fearing the worse. Impressive enough that they were able to get back into it and to stay competitive after the break. All too often we struggle manfully for the first half and the opposition kills us off with a few quick goals after the resumption. It seems we kept going for the full game here, which hasn't often been the case with our minors and the players (and management) deserve credit for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 27, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....

When and by who did this get decided?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 27, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....

When and by who did this get decided?

I would assume this is within the remit of the County Board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 27, 2015, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
"The Truth" ..... that's funny....it's almost as if there's one version of "The Truth"
3 Versions of the truth, yours, mine and the actual truth.  Up to others to decide then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2015, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....

So me & the wife & the 3 kids need to pay £26 to watch a county final? Think I'll follow it on Twitter!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on July 27, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Thats a very good Wexford U21 team who'll be looking to win the All Ireland. We have some good hurlers but I dont think we have everyone who is available to us.

The minors obviously faded in the last 15 minutes. Lost a few players to injury which was a big less...especially James McNaughton who is a super hurler
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 27, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
hard luck to the minors some good work being done, unlucky with injuries but a fair effort. under 21's - cant see it happening here, we beat 2 very average teams with little or no preparation and whilst we have some great hurlers, you get out what you put in and there is no leadership from management and CB, just ticking another box. To be honest 3 weeks before the 1st u21 game KR wasn't aware of some of the best hurlers we had at this grade. As for seniors, its a complete joke and as a county we are a laughing stock.
I agree a lot with what MR2 has said, no question the manager has to go, but more importantly the whole CB needs a good shake up, some good men in here but others with different agendas. It seems to be that instead of getting things right too many are happy to take the easy option most of the time and leave it to others who are left to do what they want.
1 example £2 for under 16's into games is disgraceful.
theres only one way to sort it, put yourself forward for CB, make a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 27, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: wino on July 27, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
hard luck to the minors some good work being done, unlucky with injuries but a fair effort. under 21's - cant see it happening here, we beat 2 very average teams with little or no preparation and whilst we have some great hurlers, you get out what you put in and there is no leadership from management and CB, just ticking another box. To be honest 3 weeks before the 1st u21 game KR wasn't aware of some of the best hurlers we had at this grade. As for seniors, its a complete joke and as a county we are a laughing stock.
I agree a lot with what MR2 has said, no question the manager has to go, but more importantly the whole CB needs a good shake up, some good men in here but others with different agendas. It seems to be that instead of getting things right too many are happy to take the easy option most of the time and leave it to others who are left to do what they want.
1 example £2 for under 16's into games is disgraceful.
theres only one way to sort it, put yourself forward for CB, make a difference.
We will all follow your lead and put our names in, eh?  Let us know when you have your nomination paper in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 27, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 27, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: wino on July 27, 2015, 09:30:20 PM
hard luck to the minors some good work being done, unlucky with injuries but a fair effort. under 21's - cant see it happening here, we beat 2 very average teams with little or no preparation and whilst we have some great hurlers, you get out what you put in and there is no leadership from management and CB, just ticking another box. To be honest 3 weeks before the 1st u21 game KR wasn't aware of some of the best hurlers we had at this grade. As for seniors, its a complete joke and as a county we are a laughing stock.
I agree a lot with what MR2 has said, no question the manager has to go, but more importantly the whole CB needs a good shake up, some good men in here but others with different agendas. It seems to be that instead of getting things right too many are happy to take the easy option most of the time and leave it to others who are left to do what they want.
1 example £2 for under 16's into games is disgraceful.
theres only one way to sort it, put yourself forward for CB, make a difference.
We will all follow your lead and put our names in, eh?  Let us know when you have your nomination paper in?
been there already but now ready to go back, might make a wee bit of difference, I imagine you've gave it a lot of thought yourself!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2015, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....

So me & the wife & the 3 kids need to pay £26 to watch a county final? Think I'll follow it on Twitter!

You won't be alone. Very shortsighted of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2015, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2015, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
U16's will pay £2 into all Championship games this summer. Disgraceful! Discuss ....

So me & the wife & the 3 kids need to pay £26 to watch a county final? Think I'll follow it on Twitter!

You won't be alone. Very shortsighted of them.

I'm guessing the hurling will be in Ballycastle this year again, say 2 adults & 3 kids that's £26 plus petrol and if your coming from the city you may wanna stop for grub. Could be touching £70/£80 at least. Not doing much to promote the games anywhere are they. That's not including money spent on earlier rounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
U16s now go free.... U turn!

(According to twitter)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2015, 11:03:11 PM
Id love to know the specific individuals who considered that a good idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
U16s now go free.... U turn!

(According to twitter)

Possibly CB looking on here to test the water??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 11:05:59 PM
They were getting quite a bit of abuse on twitter for it too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 27, 2015, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 11:05:59 PM
They were getting quite a bit of abuse on twitter for it too.

Here is their tweet 24 minutes ago. Did they think we were going to take this quietly?

Official Notice. After consideration it has been decided that U16's will bee able to attend @AontroimGAA championship games free
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 27, 2015, 11:31:50 PM
It says it all about those in power that they needed it pointed out to them that charging U16s was a bad idea.
What is the mentality of the people in the room that suggested that - and went through with it.
Any Gael with one iota of sense realises the nonsense of this - says so much about our executive.
Just another in the endless line of gaffes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 28, 2015, 08:44:34 AM
they had some sort of great idea that due to their being so many kids there at the games they could tap into all that and charge them no doubt.

Shows how deluded and out of touch they are.

Morons.

were trying to encourage kids to come to the games all over the county and get them involved, not make them stay away. The kids on the pitch at half time knocking a ball around is part and parcel of the club game, it would just look wrong without them there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 10:55:06 AM
just seen the fixtures for the week ahead there, i see davitts are playing belfast shamrocks in junior b champ at falls park? is there not a rule about a ground having to have a fence around it for championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 28, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
players and ref are supposed to be protected from the crowd when leaving the pitch to the changing rooms and back again is the rule as far as i know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
players and ref are supposed to be protected from the crowd when leaving the pitch to the changing rooms and back again is the rule as far as i know

Surely Falls park can't provide this? infact, does Falls Park have changing rooms? not good enough for championship IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2015, 01:47:25 PM
You changed in the lesiure centre beside falls park last time I played there. I would say maybe they would be less worried on crowds etc in junior B though I guess championship is championship.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 28, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Falls Park has quite good changing facilitates in their bowling pavilion yet abit away from the pitches which in theory would not qualify them for Championship matches. I wouldn't imagine to many clubs with c'ship facilites offering up their ground with the rain theres been recently. Which is a petty. Either that or this our the county view this type of game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 28, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Falls Park has quite good changing facilitates in their bowling pavilion yet abit away from the pitches which in theory would not qualify them for Championship matches. I wouldn't imagine to many clubs with c'ship facilites offering up their ground with the rain theres been recently. Which is a petty. Either that or this our the county view this type of game?

Yeah was thinking it was quite far away, admittedly i haven't been to FP in a good while, Junior B or not i think the teams should be treated with the same respect as all clubs, personally i would find it hard to step it up to 'championship' gear playing on a public park on a saturday night, maybe thats just me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 28, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Falls Park has quite good changing facilitates in their bowling pavilion yet abit away from the pitches which in theory would not qualify them for Championship matches. I wouldn't imagine to many clubs with c'ship facilites offering up their ground with the rain theres been recently. Which is a petty. Either that or this our the county view this type of game?

Yeah was thinking it was quite far away, admittedly i haven't been to FP in a good while, Junior B or not i think the teams should be treated with the same respect as all clubs, personally i would find it hard to step it up to 'championship' gear playing on a public park on a saturday night, maybe thats just me.

Championship is championship no matter what the grade and teams should be treated with the same respect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2015, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 28, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 28, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Falls Park has quite good changing facilitates in their bowling pavilion yet abit away from the pitches which in theory would not qualify them for Championship matches. I wouldn't imagine to many clubs with c'ship facilites offering up their ground with the rain theres been recently. Which is a petty. Either that or this our the county view this type of game?

Yeah was thinking it was quite far away, admittedly i haven't been to FP in a good while, Junior B or not i think the teams should be treated with the same respect as all clubs, personally i would find it hard to step it up to 'championship' gear playing on a public park on a saturday night, maybe thats just me.

Championship is championship no matter what the grade and teams should be treated with the same respect.

Its wrong on so many levels, but why Davitts have never secured a home venue with them being one of the richest clubs in Antrim is beyond me.. They had Twinbrook venue from the council I believe but have mainly played out of the Falls park and Boucher? Lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 28, 2015, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2015, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 28, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on July 28, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 28, 2015, 01:48:44 PM
Falls Park has quite good changing facilitates in their bowling pavilion yet abit away from the pitches which in theory would not qualify them for Championship matches. I wouldn't imagine to many clubs with c'ship facilites offering up their ground with the rain theres been recently. Which is a petty. Either that or this our the county view this type of game?

Yeah was thinking it was quite far away, admittedly i haven't been to FP in a good while, Junior B or not i think the teams should be treated with the same respect as all clubs, personally i would find it hard to step it up to 'championship' gear playing on a public park on a saturday night, maybe thats just me.

Championship is championship no matter what the grade and teams should be treated with the same respect.

Its wrong on so many levels, but why Davitts have never secured a home venue with them being one of the richest clubs in Antrim is beyond me.. They had Twinbrook venue from the council I believe but have mainly played out of the Falls park and Boucher? Lately

Perhaps they haven't had the contacts of the likes of St Brigids to secure green grass in an urban area?
Davitts have a massive project planned in conjunction with Corpus Christi school.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on July 29, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Thanks for the report tommy
Yeah fitness levels and sometimes we have to work harder than the other team to try and contain them which expends energy
If Dublin go deeper into the minor championship we can take some heart from it

Wexford might be a bridge to far this time but a close final score would be good

I wasn't at it but just followed it on twitter.Don't get to as many games as I would like these days unfortunately.

Be interesting to see how the dubs do later on alright.

Yes I think the u21s have a tough task but then you never know as I think we would have said that the year we made the final. I think this wexford crop of u21s is the best to come out of their county for a while and they've high hopes for them in their county. Still - you never know.

The minors competed well but had a terrible start when they conceded through a mistake and were allowing Dublin to run at them unchallenged. But to be fair to the boys they dug in and matched and even outplayed the Dubs in the middle third of the game, but ultimately Dublin's better physical conditioning allowed them to find the time and space to pick off their points and close the game out. Some real prospects on the team who are as good as any minor out there.

If we could get the best players to commit and added strength and conditioning to next year's program and with an Antrim Colleges team competing in Leinster  during the winter months (closed season) there could be more progression made.

I don't know if an All-Ireland quarter final spot for the Ulster Under 21 champions similar to the minor grade would make a more realistic target for Antrim as I fear another tanking v Wexford.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on July 29, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 27, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Thanks for the report tommy
Yeah fitness levels and sometimes we have to work harder than the other team to try and contain them which expends energy
If Dublin go deeper into the minor championship we can take some heart from it

Wexford might be a bridge to far this time but a close final score would be good

I wasn't at it but just followed it on twitter.Don't get to as many games as I would like these days unfortunately.

Be interesting to see how the dubs do later on alright.

Yes I think the u21s have a tough task but then you never know as I think we would have said that the year we made the final. I think this wexford crop of u21s is the best to come out of their county for a while and they've high hopes for them in their county. Still - you never know.

The minors competed well but had a terrible start when they conceded through a mistake and were allowing Dublin to run at them unchallenged. But to be fair to the boys they dug in and matched and even outplayed the Dubs in the middle third of the game, but ultimately Dublin's better physical conditioning allowed them to find the time and space against a tiring Antrim to pick off their points and close the game out. Some real prospects on the team who are as good as any minor out there.

If we could get the best players to commit and added strength and conditioning to next year's program and with an Antrim Colleges team competing in Leinster  during the winter months (closed season) there could be more progression made.

I don't know if an All-Ireland quarter final spot for the Ulster Under 21 champions similar to the minor grade would make a more realistic target for Antrim as I fear another tanking v Wexford.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 30, 2015, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

Good score for you guys you must have played well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2015, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

How'd our lads get on in the bear pit? I hope you weren't lashing out any unnecessary red cards?


Just looked at the league tables, if the Sars don't improve they'll be in Div3 by the end of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 30, 2015, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

How'd our lads get on in the bear pit? I hope you weren't lashing out any unnecessary red cards?


Just looked at the league tables, if the Sars don't improve they'll be in Div3 by the end of the year.

Johnney, they played alright in parts and brilliant in other parts.... some nice young small hurlers with good speed and technical ability, nice cross field low ball delivery (which was always a great trait of Ballygalget) and took some nice long distance scores, fell asleep for a period in second half allowed them back to 7 points but hammered on after that..having done Ports at the weekend and then yourselves you have a bit to do to beat them, but anything can happen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 30, 2015, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

How'd our lads get on in the bear pit? I hope you weren't lashing out any unnecessary red cards?


Just looked at the league tables, if the Sars don't improve they'll be in Div3 by the end of the year.

Johnney, they played alright in parts and brilliant in other parts.... some nice young small hurlers with good speed and technical ability, nice cross field low ball delivery (which was always a great trait of Ballygalget) and took some nice long distance scores, fell asleep for a period in second half allowed them back to 7 points but hammered on after that..having done Ports at the weekend and then yourselves you have a bit to do to beat them, but anything can happen

And in the Ards come Championship more often than not it does  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 30, 2015, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2015, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 30, 2015, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

How'd our lads get on in the bear pit? I hope you weren't lashing out any unnecessary red cards?


Just looked at the league tables, if the Sars don't improve they'll be in Div3 by the end of the year.

Johnney, they played alright in parts and brilliant in other parts.... some nice young small hurlers with good speed and technical ability, nice cross field low ball delivery (which was always a great trait of Ballygalget) and took some nice long distance scores, fell asleep for a period in second half allowed them back to 7 points but hammered on after that..having done Ports at the weekend and then yourselves you have a bit to do to beat them, but anything can happen

And in the Ards come Championship more often than not it does  :)

Hopefully the Ports will do what they normally do and go mad trying to curtail big Magic and we've enough wit within the other 5 forwards to get scores, but it would be a monumental turn around for us to dethrone the current Ulster champions from our lowly position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 30, 2015, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

Good score for you guys you must have played well

Just getting ready for Loughgiel, thought we'd lull them into a false sense of security ...... Ballycastle must have brought down their camogs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Full time score Cushendall 1-12 Loughgiel 1-15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on July 30, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

Fair play to you MR2. Hopefully you can hold on to these 2 points, you seem to have lost the other 4!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 30, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Full time score Cushendall 1-12 Loughgiel 1-15.

Any line ups?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 30, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

Fair play to you MR2. Hopefully you can hold on to these 2 points, you seem to have lost the other 4!!!

We are only interested in Loughgiel.... Leagues' over for us... Good luck this year, I hope youse don't shit in your pants again... I really do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 30, 2015, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
Full time score Cushendall 1-12 Loughgiel 1-15.
Cushendall must be favourites now, missing so many big stars and nearly beating Loughgiel.
The current county champions must start as favourites when all these lads come back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 09:57:33 PM
Cushendall team 1. Eoin Gillan 2. Ryan Mc Cambridge 3. Marty Burke 4. Aidan Mc Naughton 5. Eoghan Campbell 6. Paddy Burke 7. David Kearney 8. Cormac Mc Clafferty 9. Eoin Mc Manus 10. Cormac Mc Allister 11. Sean Mc Afee 12. Conor Carson 13. Paddy Mc Gill 14. Donal Mc Naughton 15. Dan Kinney.

How would we be favorites? Loughgiel are unbeaten all year. Sure a couple of weeks ago John Martin in The County Antrim Post was predicting another All Ireland.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 30, 2015, 10:14:57 PM

Loughgiel dd ding tony mc closkey tc james campbell scully johnny campbell duck barney odhran mc Fadden skinner eddie mc closkey dan mc closkey Joey scullion shay casey

Sure look at the lads you've to bring into an already strong team, some great players to come back.
County antrim post, yeah right they'd be better sticking to the Saturday morning leagues

Owen elliott done ok tonight, tried to let it go. Yes you'd question a decision or two each way but in fairness he lets it flow as much as possible

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Owen Elliott is sore on us. He doesn't even try to hide it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Owen Elliott is sore on us. He doesn't even try to hide it.

Come on lads.... Let it go, let it go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on July 30, 2015, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 30, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
Owen Elliott is sore on us. He doesn't even try to hide it.

Catch yourself on, or maybe you're going back to the 'penalty'
He favoured you for years. To me he's one of the better in the county. Maybe not everyone's favourite but he tries to ref it so that hurling is the winner
Still dall odds are shortening now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2015, 11:26:35 PM
Sorry to hear of the passing of Alister Delargy. One of the dalls veteran hurlers on the ditch. He was a great wee character up the line whenever you met him. Condolences to his family and friends
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on July 30, 2015, 11:47:02 PM
Mr2 , last nite we had about 8 seniors playing rest was reserve players , take nothing away from your result but we should still be beating use no matter what team we had out , still think Lgiel will beat use by at least 15 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on July 30, 2015, 11:51:28 PM
First proper match of the season, big crowd, competitive fair on show, nice enough evening, enjoyable for all. From the Dall prospective I'd be very happy, as we've been poor all year, even with the injuries we weren't putting in the effort, but the Red and white brought it out tonight. Campbell was excellent in the first half, along with Paddy Burke, and David and Aiden. We scored some great scores. In the second half we where not so threatening, but also could have stolen it at the end with the 21 free and but for a great save by DD from C Mac. Loughgiel missed a lot of scores from the 15th to the 30th min.
JJ from where you where it might have looked different , but the consensus on the hill was the Ref contributed towards the match, he was the best I've seen this year by a mile!! Sure we could have a couple more frees, but so could Loughgiel.
What does it tell us, we are in for a tough battle against the Johnnies, who after the 21s id love to turn over, but if we go through, we have nothing to fear, Loughgiel will think the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 31, 2015, 05:20:35 AM
I'd have to agree with you hand up, it could have went either Way at the end up. And as I've been saying for months, the championship isn't won in the league in May. It's Cushendall's to lose. Held us to three points, could have won it, with a good few important players out due to injury as well. I'd also agree with wino. With that performance last night Cushendall look favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 07:21:59 AM
Do I detect a change in attitude SIE? Wings clipped a small bit? Don't panic, that's the first reasonable performance we've given all year but we still lost. Loughgiel have been consistently good all year and they have Watson to bring back in. Everyone in the county has yourselves as favorites SIE. In relation to Owen Elliott, I don't care what anyone says, to me he has it in for us. That penalty. Last year when we beat Loughgiel he was disgraceful. The vast majority from Cushendall agree with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 31, 2015, 08:02:53 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 07:21:59 AM
Do I detect a change in attitude SIE? Wings clipped a small bit? Don't panic, that's the first reasonable performance we've given all year but we still lost. Loughgiel have been consistently good all year and they have Watson to bring back in. Everyone in the county has yourselves as favorites SIE. In relation to Owen Elliott, I don't care what anyone says, to me he has it in for us. That penalty. Last year when we beat Loughgiel he was disgraceful. The vast majority from Cushendall agree with me.
Catch yourself on fella! Your paranoia knows no bounds, poor Cushendall and all that aul pa-lava!   Wise up and leave the past behind, its all history now.  I really cannot get over those who are so willing and ready to blame others, - clubs, players referees, administrators etc.  Blame everyone and everything but themselves.  Just sour grapes I fear!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 31, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on July 30, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2015, 11:39:30 PM
Ballycastle's revival came to an end tonight 😉

Fair play to you MR2. Hopefully you can hold on to these 2 points, you seem to have lost the other 4!!!

We are only interested in Loughgiel.... Leagues' over for us... Good luck this year, I hope youse don't shit in your pants again... I really do

What's the points deduction all about??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 31, 2015, 08:51:30 AM
the dall favs SIE? lol come on lad.

From what ive seen of lgiel this year they are on fire and are the best in the county, if not Ulster. They have a solid team who have been there and done it and with it being the clubs centenary year they are even more fired up to win it.

Only a massive balls up on their own behalf will lose the Vol cup for them this year. I cant see that happening, they are a seriously good side.

Now enough of all this 'its yours to lose' and 'clearly your favs now after that game' nonsense SIE lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 31, 2015, 09:15:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 07:21:59 AM
Do I detect a change in attitude SIE? Wings clipped a small bit? Don't panic, that's the first reasonable performance we've given all year but we still lost. Loughgiel have been consistently good all year and they have Watson to bring back in. Everyone in the county has yourselves as favorites SIE. In relation to Owen Elliott, I don't care what anyone says, to me he has it in for us. That penalty. Last year when we beat Loughgiel he was disgraceful. The vast majority from Cushendall agree with me.
I take it you haven't read any of my posts over the last few months. I've been saying exactly what i posted this morning. I also posted a few weeks back that we'll all get a better idea where we are all at towards the end of July, and so it's proving.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2015, 09:18:23 AM
Will Graffin or McManus be back for championship? Is Shane McNaughton still around?

Loughgiel's to lose yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 09:22:09 AM
Mc Manus yes, Shane maybe, Graffin no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 09:25:44 AM
Getevennotcross I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I do however believe, given previous performances, Elliott tends to favour our opposition. We have some decent referees. He isn't one of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on July 31, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 09:22:09 AM
Mc Manus yes, Shane maybe, Graffin no.
Sure then it will be Graffins fault???? Heavens above!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on July 31, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
ffs, geteven would you just crawl into your hole again please.

JJ, catch a grip.

Good game last night, our boys tried which is nearly the first time this year, some really good scores from both teams.

All i all i was pleasantly surprised by our performance not for the team we had out but more for the way they have been playing all year, still a long way to go and only scoring two points in the second half would be a worry.

As someone said, it was our best performance this year and still got beat so not getting carried away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2015, 11:46:47 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on July 31, 2015, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 31, 2015, 09:25:44 AM
Getevennotcross I'm not blaming anyone for anything. I do however believe, given previous performances, Elliott tends to favour our opposition. We have some decent referees. He isn't one of them.
So are you saying the mans a cheat, biased?? ( I personally would not agree with that).  Come on lad, get it off your chest, not doing yourself any good harbouring such anger and resentment.  Want to share it with the group, you'll feel a little better maybe?  Bloody marvellous!
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Give it a rest ffs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
And the great one was playing.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.

Nope I disagree.... Serious serious underachieving team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.

Nope I disagree.... Serious serious underachieving team

With all due respect who cares what you think! A bit like your officiating - too opinionated. Any team that wins a couple of Munster club titles are a good outfit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
No one with any idea about hurling can say thurles is a bad team,  just cause they haven't won an All Ireland. Dunloy didn't either.  And there team was as good as they're was about. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.

Nope I disagree.... Serious serious underachieving team

With all due respect who cares what you think! A bit like your officiating - too opinionated. Any team that wins a couple of Munster club titles are a good outfit

That goes both ways... You've an opinion on here as do I its a forum, you have an understanding of how that works??

As for my officiating I'm really annoyed of your (again) opinion of me...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
No one with any idea about hurling can say thurles is a bad team,  just cause they haven't won an All Ireland. Dunloy didn't either.  And there team was as good as they're was about.

Read my post again....... Biggest underachieving team in Ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:57:56 PM
Well I disagree  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Can't wait to see how the big sit down goes tomorrow night.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
No one with any idea about hurling can say thurles is a bad team,  just cause they haven't won an All Ireland. Dunloy didn't either.  And there team was as good as they're was about.

Read my post again....... Biggest underachieving team in Ireland
yeah, that's right. You believe The Munster clubs are poor. I forgot that. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.

Nope I disagree.... Serious serious underachieving team

With all due respect who cares what you think! A bit like your officiating - too opinionated. Any team that wins a couple of Munster club titles are a good outfit

That goes both ways... You've an opinion on here as do I its a forum, you have an understanding of how that works??

As for my officiating I'm really annoyed of your (again) opinion of me...

That's good because your regular "smart" remarks about my club will hopefully come back on you - not going to get into an argument with you. Just find it unbelievable that a ref who gets senior matches put out his opinion about certain teams traits on a public forum. Not good practice. I'm allowed an opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 10:29:16 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 02, 2015, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2015, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 02, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
I hear there was a big result for the dall against Thurles Sarsfields yesterday. They are the team to beat. Improving at the business time of the year. When it counts.

Thurles yet to win the big one so id not worry about that result.... Biggest underachieving team ever... Plus the county lads wouldn't have been playing either
still a quality team mr2.

Nope I disagree.... Serious serious underachieving team

With all due respect who cares what you think! A bit like your officiating - too opinionated. Any team that wins a couple of Munster club titles are a good outfit

That goes both ways... You've an opinion on here as do I its a forum, you have an understanding of how that works??

As for my officiating I'm really annoyed of your (again) opinion of me...

That's good because your regular "smart" remarks about my club will hopefully come back on you - not going to get into an argument with you. Just find it unbelievable that a ref who gets senior matches put out his opinion about certain teams traits on a public forum. Not good practice. I'm allowed an opinion.

What crap are you waffling on about now??  Seriously you find it unbelievable??? Are you completely off your rocker?? Come back on me??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 02, 2015, 10:35:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
And the great one was playing.   :o
Graffin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
Mc Manus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 03, 2015, 12:27:45 AM
I take it w**ker will be going to the County meeting tomorrow night, to share his visionary ideas for next year!! and announcing his return and total commitment to the County Scene for 2016!!😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 12:44:21 AM
Quote from: Hand up on August 03, 2015, 12:27:45 AM
I take it w**ker will be going to the County meeting tomorrow night, to share his visionary ideas for next year!! and announcing his return and total commitment to the County Scene for 2016!!😉
i wonder if he isn't there will he be the only one missing, or the only one noted as being missing? Interesting indeed. Apart from being injured for the last 14 months, You do know he's been available for selection for three years?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on August 03, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
It's good to see how you know so much about cushendall sie, your more up to date with what we're doing that most off the supporters  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 03, 2015, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Can't wait to see how the big sit down goes tomorrow night.   :o
The lads are all going onto an EPO (Erythropoietin) programme, sure we will have to do something real radical to improve our lot, as they say.  However knowing our luck, our boys bodies would reject it, or EPO reject them. 

I am jesting by the way, just in case some individual(s) get a bit excited!  So wheres the big meet then, who called it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: cushendall on August 03, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
It's good to see how you know so much about cushendall sie, your more up to date with what we're doing that most off the supporters  ;)
how did you get on against portumna?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on August 03, 2015, 04:51:53 PM
About as well as you did in the championship against us last year  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: cushendall on August 03, 2015, 04:51:53 PM
About as well as you did in the championship against us last year  ;D
not so good then.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 03, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
after that arguement Loughgiel clearly are the favs for the championship again! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
after that arguement Loughgiel clearly are the favs for the championship again! lol
This is getting confusing.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
after that arguement Loughgiel clearly are the favs for the championship again! lol
This is getting confusing.  :o
Championship time is a very confusing time of year...especially for Winker....or Dave from money supermarket.com
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
after that arguement Loughgiel clearly are the favs for the championship again! lol
This is getting confusing.  :o
Championship time is a very confusing time of year...especially for Winker....or Dave from money supermarket.com
;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 03, 2015, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Can't wait to see how the big sit down goes tomorrow night.   :o
The lads are all going onto an EPO (Erythropoietin) programme, sure we will have to do something real radical to improve our lot, as they say.  However knowing our luck, our boys bodies would reject it, or EPO reject them. 

I am jesting by the way, just in case some individual(s) get a bit excited!  So wheres the big meet then, who called it?
I believe it's a meeting among players and KR. Called by KR. "It will be the usual shit, KR will speak and Mc Manus will speak.  And the rest of us will sit and listen to the same stuff over and over again "  one of our better county hurlers has told me this   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 03, 2015, 06:38:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 03, 2015, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 02, 2015, 09:59:12 PM
Can't wait to see how the big sit down goes tomorrow night.   :o
The lads are all going onto an EPO (Erythropoietin) programme, sure we will have to do something real radical to improve our lot, as they say.  However knowing our luck, our boys bodies would reject it, or EPO reject them. 

I am jesting by the way, just in case some individual(s) get a bit excited!  So wheres the big meet then, who called it?
I believe it's a meeting among players and KR. Called by KR. "It will be the usual shit, KR will speak and Mc Manus will speak.  And the rest of us will sit and listen to the same stuff over and over again "  one of our better county hurlers has told me this   :o
Thank you SG.  So KR is still in situ?  I honestly don't think this man is competent (as his records shows) and has the brass neck to call such a meeting. I suppose he will be looking for the vote of confidence from the players again? Time to wield the axe I would say, and pursue an alternative option in terms of the appointment of a new Coach/Manager.  The question is though, who?  I still think regardless, we should look outside the county for a new manager/coach, too much under currents/baggage with local appointments!  Anyway, all in good time I suppose?  Has anyone an idea on how much KR has cost us  (£££££sss) over the past few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 08:25:58 PM
  He will be a hero next year as there down a division.  So should be winning games.  There out of the Liam Mc Carthy. So should be winning games in Christy Ring and they'll all be super stars again this time next year.    I'd already have him gone and I'd have approached an Antrim man.  Honestly think we need to give Johnson the call.  Whether people like him or not.  I honestly think he's the man to get the best out of the best we have and get the club hatred put to one side for the best of the county.   But id say he'll get staying.  Get another fortune and be made look a hero as there playing below the level that they should be IMO. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 03, 2015, 08:51:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 08:25:58 PM
  He will be a hero next year as there down a division.  So should be winning games.  There out of the Liam Mc Carthy. So should be winning games in Christy Ring and they'll all be super stars again this time next year.    I'd already have him gone and I'd have approached an Antrim man.  Honestly think we need to give Johnson the call.  Whether people like him or not.  I honestly think he's the man to get the best out of the best we have and get the club hatred put to one side for the best of the county.   But id say he'll get staying.  Get another fortune and be made look a hero as there playing below the level that they should be IMO.
I wouldnae be too sure SG, we dont take to beating Westmeath, Carlow and Laois that handy, the past few year shave proved that.  I wouldnae be to sure we are a shoe in for the Corn Christy either.  As for Johnston, wouldnae be my cup of tea and would probably prove too controversial, however I could be wrong?  For some reason or other, there could possibly be 8 St. Johns men on the team and a few others from N. Antrim.  The Dall, Ballycastle, Dunloy and your boys wouldnae get a luk in.  Safer keeping it outside the county IMO, but at least get someone who will not be influenced by the personalities!  Imagine, Div. 3 Hurling for Antrim, it doesn't bear thinking about, how did we ever get to this level?  What are the chances of getting Donal O'Grady or John Allen?  or are they making too much at the analisís game on TG4?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on August 03, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
So Kevin Ryan has stepped down. Who now for the antrim job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 03, 2015, 09:36:30 PM
Kevin Ryan has just resigned.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/33767105
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on August 03, 2015, 09:21:30 PM
So Kevin Ryan has stepped down. Who now for the antrim job

Is this true enough?
If so, about time, I'd say it was step down before being pushed out.
Johnsons not the worst idea, yes a bit ott but has proved some tatical know how at times and doesn't have a lot of the baggage that some north antrim personalities have.
And definitely won't let the tail wag the dog - sure what have we got to lose, it couldn't get any worse!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
I'd say PJ will see out what he's doing with loughgiel this championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
I'd say PJ will see out what he's doing with loughgiel this championship.

Sure why not.... I'd rather go with an Antrim man for a while... Hopefully that opinion doesn't annoy anyone, as being a referee and having an opinion is wrong  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
I'd say PJ will see out what he's doing with loughgiel this championship.

Sure why not.... I'd rather go with an Antrim man for a while... Hopefully that opinion doesn't annoy anyone, as being a referee and having an opinion is wrong  ::)
I'd agree with SG. if not Johnston definitely a Belfast man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 03, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
Quote from: wino on August 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Pj??
He'd bring the right structures to it ok, but a lot would depend who who'd go with him and who his back room team would be. Some of the big names currently involved may struggle with him therefore his backroom team would be crucial to its success
I'd say PJ will see out what he's doing with loughgiel this championship.

Yeah, your right he will, but I wouldn't totally rule it out for the future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 03, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
Here is winker getting a bit of leg strengthening done before championship lol. Good luck to him and his bride to be on their wedding day this Saturday. 

http://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/hurling/moneysupermarket-comes-ballymena-top-hurler-9783496
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
Anthony Daly anybody? May be costly but would surely have what it takes to put pride back in the jersey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 03, 2015, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
Anthony Daly anybody? May be costly but would surely have what it takes to put pride back in the jersey.

Not a hope, would be far too expensive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2015, 10:15:35 PM
Daly earning a kings ransom as part of the Limerick development set up, courtesy of JP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:16:41 PM
For me it's an Antrim man that's needed to restore pride back in the jerseys.  I also think it's not a bad time to be taking the job,  with the best 25 or so players in the county they could give it a rattle at the level there at.   I'd be asking Johnson to take the job but id like a North Antrim man involved with him.  If that could be made work.   I'd doubt PJ will be near it this year. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:30:44 PM
Johnston - No way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
I'd prefer an Antrim man but he has to be the right man for the job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2015, 11:00:30 PM
Was Mickey Glover not involved with the minor set up this year? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2015, 11:00:30 PM
Was Mickey Glover not involved with the minor set up this year?
Yeah he was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
I'd prefer an Antrim man but he has to be the right man for the job.
who?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 11:13:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
I'd prefer an Antrim man but he has to be the right man for the job.
who?
I honestly don't know lol. But definitely not Johnston. It really depends who is interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2015, 11:52:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
I'd prefer an Antrim man but he has to be the right man for the job.
who?

St Pauls mam Glover?? Didn't realise he was taking teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 04, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2015, 11:52:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 03, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 03, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
What's the thoughts on Micky Glover?
Obviously done a good job with Slaughtneil. Don't know too much about him but heard decent reports. Could be an option.

All well & good appointing an Antrim man but there isn't too many options unfortunately.
well what's the point in dumping more cash into a name or a lad from the south. we've had more than enough of them.   When jingo has been the best manger since Wee Joe.  Give it to someone within our own county and see what he can do.  Like I said.  Don't think there's a better time to be getting it.
I'd prefer an Antrim man but he has to be the right man for the job.
who?

St Pauls mam Glover?? Didn't realise he was taking teams

He was Slaughtneil manager the last couple of years and did well with them. As far as I know he is now a full time coach with Ulster hurling and was assistant manager of Antrim minors this year as well. Would certainly be a contender for the Antrim managers position (there are not too many candidates)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 04, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
To be totally honest it doesn't matter who this person is. As long as players from all clubs in the county row in behind him and give 100% to the cause. End all this inter club rivalry crap once and for all. When you train with the county and pull on the saffron jersey all that other crap goes to the side, simple as.

The one point I would make is that the next appointment must be an Antrim man, we don't need any outsiders. In the past we may have benefitted from someone with southern tactics and coaching skills but all our top men here have experience of that now, give them a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Johnston is a def no for me. He made an mess of his own club with a great young team. Off the pitch a character and a nice man to talk to, on the side line hes likes something not wise.

Dont know if PJ is the man either, hes very comfortable in his own club where hes well looked after, would he get the same results with a dysfunctional county set up?

All i can say is there will be people with their own personal agendas wanting the job who have been circling like vultures but at not necessarily the best for the position.

God help anyone who takes it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 04, 2015, 09:29:16 AM
So who would be the contenders from within Antrim - struggling to think of genuine ones.

Sambo - no chance of him wanting it
Woody - see above
Gregory O Kane - possible option - would he want it?
Michael Johnson - probably would want it but!!
PJ O Mullan - def a serious option with correct men.
Gary O Kane -
Shane Elliot - was along with Kevin Ryan but def an option. Great coach
Michael McShane - long shot but with Slaughtneil at min
Michael Glover - Antrim man good record with Slaughtneil
Skinner Mcallister - great record with Cushendall

Who else??

My bet at min would be PJ - has the track record - along with Shane Elliot maybe the way to move forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 04, 2015, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Johnston is a def no for me. He made an mess of his own club with a great young team. Off the pitch a character and a nice man to talk to, on the side line hes likes something not wise.

Dont know if PJ is the man either, hes very comfortable in his own club where hes well looked after, would he get the same results with a dysfunctional county set up?

All i can say is there will be people with their own personal agendas wanting the job who have been circling like vultures but at not necessarily the best for the position.

God help anyone who takes it.

You could do far worse than Ger Rogan, thought he knew his shit when involved with him and can keep his cool along the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
its all about the package for me, a great coach who can vary it but ensure that the drills are in line with the style of play that Antrim need to be playing, a strength and conditioning coach who can assess the needs of every player individually and be able to monitor the progress of each player (every player has different needs and abilities physically) even the stick and gear man has an important job and needs to carry it out professionally, you only need to see the fiasco's the footballers have had in the past... all of these people make the job of managing the senior team a lot easier.. he can worry about tactics, game plans, man management of team, dealing with the media..

Its hard enough being a manager never mind doing all the other crap.... Thankless task as the snipers are never too far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 04, 2015, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
its all about the package for me, a great coach who can vary it but ensure that the drills are in line with the style of play that Antrim need to be playing, a strength and conditioning coach who can assess the needs of every player individually and be able to monitor the progress of each player (every player has different needs and abilities physically) even the stick and gear man has an important job and needs to carry it out professionally, you only need to see the fiasco's the footballers have had in the past... all of these people make the job of managing the senior team a lot easier.. he can worry about tactics, game plans, man management of team, dealing with the media..

Its hard enough being a manager never mind doing all the other crap.... Thankless task as the snipers are never too far away

Has Wee Joe vacated that role as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2015, 11:00:17 AM
anyone who has publicly criticized the board and the current set up wont be in with a shout. I mean would you hire someone who has criticized you and ran you down?

It will be someone who has sat silently biding their time or an unknown we never all thought of.

Im betting it will be outside the county that they will go. Anyone whos involved in the game here knows the crap that goes on behind the scene and what a mess our county is. What in under god when knowing all of that would you want the job for then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 04, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
No matter who gets it we need our 25/30 best players on the panel and everybody weighing in behind the new management team. Inter club rivalries are all well and good but we all should want Antrim competing at a high level.

I think if we are staying within the county then PJ would be as good a man as any if he gets the correct back room team with him. Maybe PJ & Shane Elliot?

We need people in charge who have Antrim at heart and would get respect from every club, North & South of Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 04, 2015, 12:54:10 PM
I see the Intermediate Championship kicks off this weekend.

You'd have to expect Gort na mona to dispose of St Enda's but I think that one will be closer than what people think.

Carey v Tir na nog is another one I'd expect to be a lot closer and will even throw it out there that Tir na nog might cause a shock.

Glenravel and Armoy I can't see being close and Armoy should advance there.

Glenariffe and Cloughmills is the pick of the round though and should be a good game that could go either way. Ossians should win though.
Stay with the thread man, we are talking about our new county manager here for goodness sake, we really cant afford to be caught up on insignificance of the Intermediate championship just now.

With so many disparate views on who should be the next manager, one thing for sure, whoever is appointed will not be to the liking or satisfaction on this discussion boards contributors.  Another thing also is the need for a committed buy in from our best players, regardless of their past, their reputations or which club they represent.  Without a 100% commitment from the players, we are going nowhere!

Certainly we have all had are snipes and voiced our displeasure at the though of the appointment of key individuals, some of the names suggested I would not have about the place.  The predicament we are in now has been a perpetual cycle, its nothing new to us and are hurling woes (even football for that matter) are not going to end even in the short term by securing a big named messiah alone.  Our problem in Antrim hurling needs a strategic, long term, realistic and achievable framework.  Too many development plans in the past have continuously failed to be resourced, implemented, evaluated.  Time to stop kidding ourselves, start being honest and get serious.  No matter who would grasp such a poison chalice presently, they are doomed to failure unless radical change and major buy in takes place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Johnston is a def no for me. He made an mess of his own club with a great young team. Off the pitch a character and a nice man to talk to, on the side line hes likes something not wise.

Dont know if PJ is the man either, hes very comfortable in his own club where hes well looked after, would he get the same results with a dysfunctional county set up?

All i can say is there will be people with their own personal agendas wanting the job who have been circling like vultures but at not necessarily the best for the position.

God help anyone who takes it.
+ 1  Totally agree, we need to seriously avoid the opportunists and those with major personal egos.

Appoint someone with a real plan, one who can command respect, who wont sing to the tune of the CB, who will stand up and make demands of both CB and players and at the same time, provide the rite opportunities for players to express themselves and perform to their full potential, simples eh!  (Well, we can only dream of utopia.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
whoever gets it needs to sit down all the players and get this bitterness and bitching sorted out. I have to be honest here but this continious crap between Lgiel and Cdall has to come to an end or the county team will never go forward.

I dont care who started it or said what or has done what the truth of the matter is that all of that is killing the team. Its not the clubs fault directly, rather its individuals actions that are the problem here. It needs nipped in the bud asap.

Now im neither anti cdall or lgiel, or blame one or the other and  i have a respect for both clubs/players/supporters but until that nonsense is sorted nothing or no one will be able to move us forward while its there simmering away.

Whoever gets the job has to have a long term plan in terms of youth development and keeping an eye on their progress esp the minors. We cannot afford to lose good players and we have plenty of them in that minor team in Keelan Molly, James Mcnaughton, Christy McNaughton etc etc.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 02:24:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
whoever gets it needs to sit down all the players and get this bitterness and bitching sorted out. I have to be honest here but this continious crap between Lgiel and Cdall has to come to an end or the county team will never go forward.

I dont care who started it or said what or has done what the truth of the matter is that all of that is killing the team. Its not the clubs fault directly, rather its individuals actions that are the problem here. It needs nipped in the bud asap.

Now im neither anti cdall or lgiel, or blame one or the other and  i have a respect for both clubs/players/supporters but until that nonsense is sorted nothing or no one will be able to move us forward while its there simmering away.

Whoever gets the job has to have a long term plan in terms of youth development and keeping an eye on their progress esp the minors. We cannot afford to lose good players and we have plenty of them in that minor team in Keelan Molly, James Mcnaughton, Christy McNaughton etc etc.
Good for you DR, IMO  - a man of substance, vision and integrity, I couldn't agree with you more.  God only knows what our young men, future potential county players must be thinking?.   All of us as current custodians of the game, we certainly are not encouraging them or giving them aspiration to represent their county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 04, 2015, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 04, 2015, 12:54:10 PM
I see the Intermediate Championship kicks off this weekend.

You'd have to expect Gort na mona to dispose of St Enda's but I think that one will be closer than what people think.

Carey v Tir na nog is another one I'd expect to be a lot closer and will even throw it out there that Tir na nog might cause a shock.

Glenravel and Armoy I can't see being close and Armoy should advance there.

Glenariffe and Cloughmills is the pick of the round though and should be a good game that could go either way. Ossians should win though.
Stay with the thread man, we are talking about our new county manager here for goodness sake, we really cant afford to be caught up on insignificance of the Intermediate championship just now.

With so many disparate views on who should be the next manager, one thing for sure, whoever is appointed will not be to the liking or satisfaction on this discussion boards contributors.  Another thing also is the need for a committed buy in from our best players, regardless of their past, their reputations or which club they represent.  Without a 100% commitment from the players, we are going nowhere!

Certainly we have all had are snipes and voiced our displeasure at the though of the appointment of key individuals, some of the names suggested I would not have about the place.  The predicament we are in now has been a perpetual cycle, its nothing new to us and are hurling woes (even football for that matter) are not going to end even in the short term by securing a big named messiah alone.  Our problem in Antrim hurling needs a strategic, long term, realistic and achievable framework.  Too many development plans in the past have continuously failed to be resourced, implemented, evaluated.  Time to stop kidding ourselves, start being honest and get serious.  No matter who would grasp such a poison chalice presently, they are doomed to failure unless radical change and major buy in takes place.

The amount of time you spend on here talking bol.locks especially for someone trying (poorly) to be a WUM really is pathetic.
Chillax man, cool your jets.  well at least my posting got a response (in fact, a few more than yours!)  A WUM, maybe you would care to enlighten me?  I am not familiar with this acronym, not sure it even is one!  You're right though, I must get some work done.  I would assume it is derogatory though, given you hadn't the temerity to divulge in full.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2015, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 04, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
To add my own tuppence worth to the county management position. There are lots of people outside the county who I'd say would be willing to take it. Not so many in Antrim but still a few.

The very fact that the main points being made are about uniting the clubs and man management are testiment to the fact that in most of our opinions, the talent exists within Antrim to 'achieve'.

Every Antrim hurling person worth their salt would be in agreement that we need our best players playing and that our clubs need to unite and ditch the negativity. The big question regardless of who takes the team next year is whether or not players, clubs and wider hurling characters are mature enough to make peace, kiss and make up.  The signs are that that is not the case. If all parties go at the issue wanting to be right and prove the other side wrong then that is a recipe for failure. (This site is largely acting as a micro case study of Antrim hurling).

We'll have to accept that there were differences of opinion and give the marriage another go. If that were to be the case, part of the terms of reference of any agreement to be laid down by a new manager would have to be a kind of social media/wider media ban. It is not a time for getting one over the other or washing out dirty linen in public.

Then if course there is the coaching, conditioning, administration and commitment aspects of Antrim hurling.

Will the new guy get what it takes to develop like a lot of counties? Gear? Training camps? The best facilities? Coaches? Nutritionists? Massage therapists? A proper kit/stick/equipment guy? This involves money!

On a side point, if I were to take that team I would insist on Jim Murray, Joe Edwards, Frankie Quinn and the rest of the entourage never being on the line with the management. It smacks of cronyism and is embarrassing.

This the county board that thought charging U16's into a championship match was a good idea. It shows how detached from reality they actually are.

How in under god could they be responsible for picking a good hurling manager?

Everything you mention about Nutritionists etc are all good valid points but bear in mind when picking a football manger they had a candidate that had a 5 year plan and way forward and they rejected it!!

they have no idea and no vision. Christ they cant even finish Dunsilly yet apparently they selected a successful tenderer to work at it a while back but work still hasnt started!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 04, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 04, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
To add my own tuppence worth to the county management position. There are lots of people outside the county who I'd say would be willing to take it. Not so many in Antrim but still a few.

The very fact that the main points being made are about uniting the clubs and man management are testiment to the fact that in most of our opinions, the talent exists within Antrim to 'achieve'.

Every Antrim hurling person worth their salt would be in agreement that we need our best players playing and that our clubs need to unite and ditch the negativity. The big question regardless of who takes the team next year is whether or not players, clubs and wider hurling characters are mature enough to make peace, kiss and make up.  The signs are that that is not the case. If all parties go at the issue wanting to be right and prove the other side wrong then that is a recipe for failure. (This site is largely acting as a micro case study of Antrim hurling).

We'll have to accept that there were differences of opinion and give the marriage another go. If that were to be the case, part of the terms of reference of any agreement to be laid down by a new manager would have to be a kind of social media/wider media ban. It is not a time for getting one over the other or washing out dirty linen in public.

Then if course there is the coaching, conditioning, administration and commitment aspects of Antrim hurling. As if we didn't already know that!

Will the new guy get what it takes to develop like a lot of counties? Gear? Training camps? The best facilities? Coaches? Nutritionists? Massage therapists? A proper kit/stick/equipment guy? This involves money! Are you paying your way and your monthly tenner?

On a side point, if I were to take that team I would insist on Jim Murray, Joe Edwards, Frankie Quinn and the rest of the entourage never being on the line with the management. It smacks of cronyism and is embarrassing.  Quite slanderous to say the least!  Understandable for a keyboard warrior though.
And here we have it folks - The New Evangelist.  WOW WEE, I'm really inspired now, where do I sign? I'll have to start paying my tenner again to Club Antrim.  Shoebox has us all sorted now bois, Antrim for Liam in 2 years.  (effin eedgit!)  He he, bloody marvellous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 04, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 04, 2015, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
its all about the package for me, a great coach who can vary it but ensure that the drills are in line with the style of play that Antrim need to be playing, a strength and conditioning coach who can assess the needs of every player individually and be able to monitor the progress of each player (every player has different needs and abilities physically) even the stick and gear man has an important job and needs to carry it out professionally, you only need to see the fiasco's the footballers have had in the past... all of these people make the job of managing the senior team a lot easier.. he can worry about tactics, game plans, man management of team, dealing with the media..

Its hard enough being a manager never mind doing all the other crap.... Thankless task as the snipers are never too far away

Has Wee Joe vacated that role as well?

Frankies son has been doing that for the last few years, funny enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 07:48:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 04, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 04, 2015, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
its all about the package for me, a great coach who can vary it but ensure that the drills are in line with the style of play that Antrim need to be playing, a strength and conditioning coach who can assess the needs of every player individually and be able to monitor the progress of each player (every player has different needs and abilities physically) even the stick and gear man has an important job and needs to carry it out professionally, you only need to see the fiasco's the footballers have had in the past... all of these people make the job of managing the senior team a lot easier.. he can worry about tactics, game plans, man management of team, dealing with the media..

Its hard enough being a manager never mind doing all the other crap.... Thankless task as the snipers are never too far away

Has Wee Joe vacated that role as well?

Frankies son has been doing that for the last few years, funny enough

Jackie from my club did it for a right few years also.. Its a tough enough job.... Its not just ensuring the sticks are laid out on the pitch... Read something a while back on the Cork stick/gear man... Fecking full time job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 04, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Any teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 10:07:51 PM
Loughiel had Winker, Neily, Martin scull, and a certain Benny McCarry watching from the side. Ballycastle missing Clarkie and. Stoogie. Shamrocks had Odhran playing half forward but apart from that looked as expected. The town had McAloonan playing 11, started Tt Butler and Cossy playing corner back. That asside looked as expected. Matty Donnelly marking Eddie was arguably the strangest pairing of the night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Careful now... Very sensitive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 04, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Careful now... Very sensitive

Only sensitive when a ref who gets some of our championship matches makes comments on here about us.
Tonight's performance was as I expected. We are playing serious catch up in terms of fitness and hurling after the early season shambles. Big Ronan trying to cram a lot in at the minute. The two early goals killed us. We were chasing after that. We have 4 weeks now to try and get the hurling sharpened up with our fitness before we play Rossa. Clarkie & Stoogie back soon.

As for the big slow men - they are certainly that - although hopefully our forward line which will include Clarke, saul, stoogie, Young TT will make up for that.
We live in hope.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 10:59:01 PM
Quote from: Leyland link=topic=1347.msg1497685#msg1497685 date=1soon 438725056
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Careful now... Very sensitive

Only sensitive when a ref who gets some of our championship matches makes comments on here about us.
Tonight's performance was as I expected. We are playing serious catch up in terms of fitness and hurling after the early season shambles. Big Ronan trying to cram a lot in at the minute. The two early goals killed us. We were chasing after that. We have 4 weeks now to try and get the hurling sharpened up with our fitness before we play Rossa. Clarkie & Stoogie back soon.

As for the big slow men - they are certainly that - although hopefully our forward line which will include Clarke, saul, stoogie, Young TT will make up for that.
We live in hope.

TT is a talented boy. This year is too soon for him though. He struggled tonight physically and took a heavy knock which effectively ended his night. Definitely one to watch. Saul is a class player. All those pumped up boys should take note. The big muscles only slow you down on a hurling field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 04, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 04, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Loughiel looked really sharp tonight. Ballycastle are too big and too slow. Can't believe a club with their resources have constantly failed to deliver and will do so again this year. Could some of the Town boys on here offer their opinion? Why is it that such a big club that focus on one code (I know they've a senior football team) can't produce a winning side?

Careful now... Very sensitive

Only sensitive when a ref who gets some of our championship matches makes comments on here about us.
Tonight's performance was as I expected. We are playing serious catch up in terms of fitness and hurling after the early season shambles. Big Ronan trying to cram a lot in at the minute. The two early goals killed us. We were chasing after that. We have 4 weeks now to try and get the hurling sharpened up with our fitness before we play Rossa. Clarkie & Stoogie back soon.

As for the big slow men - they are certainly that - although hopefully our forward line which will include Clarke, saul, stoogie, Young TT will make up for that.
We live in hope.

Meaning?? As you've never actually explained? I referee the game not the club... Step up and try it, or shut up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on August 04, 2015, 11:38:56 PM
Two early goals killed us. The big and slow players you reference, in my book are our 3 "americans" who arrived home at the weekend and have serious catching up to do going by tonight. With the other 2 "americans" coming home I think we will be ok. We hit 15pnts and only the sloppy early goals put gloss on the scoreline.

Serious question for the loughgiel contingent.......would you start Neily ahead of Tony McCloskey in full back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 04, 2015, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 04, 2015, 11:38:56 PM
Two early goals killed us. The big and slow players you reference, in my book are our 3 "americans" who arrived home at the weekend and have serious catching up to do going by tonight. With the other 2 "americans" coming home I think we will be ok. We hit 15pnts and only the sloppy early goals put gloss on the scoreline.

Serious question for the loughgiel contingent.......would you start Neily ahead of Tony McCloskey in full back?
yes. For one more year.  Rate tony very highly tho.  He'll play for sure.  But think nelly has a another year no problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2015, 11:56:03 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on August 04, 2015, 11:38:56 PM
Two early goals killed us. The big and slow players you reference, in my book are our 3 "americans" who arrived home at the weekend and have serious catching up to do going by tonight. With the other 2 "americans" coming home I think we will be ok. We hit 15pnts and only the sloppy early goals put gloss on the scoreline.

Serious question for the loughgiel contingent.......would you start Neily ahead of Tony McCloskey in full back?
in my opinion, that'll be where he'll play. Big man, takes no prisoners when he has to. And a skilful hurler to boot. Knowing Pj though, he'll choose who he thinks will do the job on the day. Don't be surprised if it changes from game to game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2015, 01:26:27 AM
Haven't commented much recently - but reading posts from the not so sunny south east!

Few points:

I think KR position was untenable. Him going or being pushed is of no difference to be - shocking season and he had to go.

Normally this time of year I'm full of championship expectation. A little damp this year maybe due to me being down south but hoping for a good championship after last year's dismal affair.

On the new manager?
To be honest it's not that I disagree with certain opinions here - I am just despondent by the fact that it's been the same points every time we've changed manager over the last number of years!
Same issues - still not addressed.

So here is my tuppence:

An "expensive" outsider has not worked much for me. Be it Shane Elliot or PJ I think they'll do as good a job but cheaper - enables us to put our limited finances elsewhere. Whoever it is I hope for an Antrim man - and one who encourages the club scene rather than holding it to ransom. What have we got to lose.

On the outsider point - yes we need one - but in our county executive and not team manager!
The point about cronyism makes me say this - surely we would benefit from a peter Quinn or a Sean nckeague as county chairman? Our executive has long been an embarrassment well known.
If we solve this maybe playing fortunes will be given a chance.
If an outsider can't be county chairman by regulations - appoint a new guy to a made up role to effectively run our county.

For what it's worth I think a Quinn or a Mckeague could sort out a lot of our woes and leave us in a better state long term on and off the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 05, 2015, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 05, 2015, 01:26:27 AM
Haven't commented much recently - but reading posts from the not so sunny south east!

Few points:

I think KR position was untenable. Him going or being pushed is of no difference to be - shocking season and he had to go.

Normally this time of year I'm full of championship expectation. A little damp this year maybe due to me being down south but hoping for a good championship after last year's dismal affair.

On the new manager?
To be honest it's not that I disagree with certain opinions here - I am just despondent by the fact that it's been the same points every time we've changed manager over the last number of years!
Same issues - still not addressed.

So here is my tuppence:

An "expensive" outsider has not worked much for me. Be it Shane Elliot or PJ I think they'll do as good a job but cheaper - enables us to put our limited finances elsewhere. Whoever it is I hope for an Antrim man - and one who encourages the club scene rather than holding it to ransom. What have we got to lose.

On the outsider point - yes we need one - but in our county executive and not team manager!
The point about cronyism makes me say this - surely we would benefit from a peter Quinn or a Sean nckeague as county chairman? Our executive has long been an embarrassment well known.
If we solve this maybe playing fortunes will be given a chance.
If an outsider can't be county chairman by regulations - appoint a new guy to a made up role to effectively run our county.

For what it's worth I think a Quinn or a Mckeague could sort out a lot of our woes and leave us in a better state long term on and off the field.

You have a full time secretary, Frankie Quinn, and he's appointed and paid by the Ulster Council, not sure why you'd need another paid administrator just make sure you're getting some bang for you buck with the current one.

As for Antrim managers, yes Kevin Ryan has probably made mistakes, but Antrims problems are far more fundamental than the cherry on the cake. Appoint PJ, Shane Elliott, even Brian Cody and the same old issues will arise. TBH I'd see the Antrim job currently as a very poison chalice for an internal appointee to take on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2015, 10:36:43 AM
That's exactly my point JC - the current administrators have for some time proved to be totally incompetent.
An outsider will have more success in sorting out the vast woes we face. Especially someone of the calibre of the guys I mentioned.
I'm not sure they would even demand a salary.
What harm would it do - at this stage we have nothing to lose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 05, 2015, 12:26:19 PM
Generally speaking .... in Antrim we are pretty rudderless and some individuals appear to have been asleep at the helm for the longest time. But lets not be blind to the fact that any of this ineptitude that we speak of is not mirrored by the ineptitude of the general GAA population. We lack the critical mass of people who give enough of a fook to commit time and money to organizing and delivering ambitious development plans. Our problems run deeper than who's going to be the next county manager.

Plenty of good work being done in the clubs it has to be mentioned. Dev squads are out but no doubt lack proper coaching numbers and finance. Thats the area that needs sustained year on year focus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 05, 2015, 12:35:06 PM
A new Antrim manager won't change anything. We will still be here moaning next season.

At this current point in time we actually need change from both bottom up and the top down. The county board has a well documented history of failures and in my opinion (and many others) couldn't run a bath. They need to go. When they do then we can put in good underage structures and start developing the talent of the future (aka Dublin/Carlow etc).

Lets forget about putting all our efforts into the next county hurling manager because if we appointed Brian Cody and his all Ireland backroom team tomorrow we wouldn't see much of a difference because of the poor foundations on which this whole county (hurling and football) is built. THE END!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on August 05, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
Pj would be the best option imo but would he want the job?

Its a disgrace we aren't competing at county level when we have one of the strongest club scenes in the country. Antrim surely has to be up there as the most succesful county for club titles in the last few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 05, 2015, 05:14:48 PM
Pj has said he's interested in the job but he wants to see out the championship with loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2015, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on August 05, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
Pj would be the best option imo but would he want the job?

Its a disgrace we aren't competing at county level when we have one of the strongest club scenes in the country. Antrim surely has to be up there as the most succesful county for club titles in the last few years?

How have we got one of the strongest club scenes in the country?? We have two senior ais ever and both from one club!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 05, 2015, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2015, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: Apparently so on August 05, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
Pj would be the best option imo but would he want the job?

Its a disgrace we aren't competing at county level when we have one of the strongest club scenes in the country. Antrim surely has to be up there as the most succesful county for club titles in the last few years?

How have we got one of the strongest club scenes in the country?? We have two senior ais ever and both from one club!!
This guy is delusional, just another case of thinking we are better than we actually are in reality. 

I was never a fan of PJ by any means and no axe to grind with the man, but club is one thing and county is another kettle of fish, but if push came to shove, I would poll for PJ anyday over the clowns Johnston or McNaughton.  If PJ was successful in an open election, would there not be retaliatory resentment from them Dall boyos?  Would it not be a perpetuating problem given the history?  Until such underlying hostilities between clubs like Dall and Loughgiel are addressed, the status quo will remain.

I am not saying any of the above to be controversial, but I tend to be a realist and see things as they really are.  We really need to deal with the problems going forward and not the symptoms, too much has been brushed under the carpet fro years and continues to come back and hunt us annually.

In Antrim we have a very fractured GAA Community, Football over Hurling, South v North etc.  This is a major area of concern which needs fixing, I am of the opinion we do not have the right personnel in high office or indeed the real desire to fix it.  There are also those who believe they have all the answers, the panacea to our ills so to speak, but talk as ever is cheap and idle clap trap solves nothing. Cest la vie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 05, 2015, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: Appareally poor l so on August 05, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
Pj would be the best option imo but would he want the job?

Its a disgrace we aren't competing at county level when we have one of the strongest club scenes in the country. Antrim surely has to be up there as the most succesful county for club titles in the last few years?

Our club scene is really poor and completely reflected in our county team. We have one, arguably two top senior sides at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 05, 2015, 06:45:18 PM
I agree our club scene is at best competitive - don't confuse that with high quality.

But then how could it be of high quality?
It's been a stuttering drip-feed held to ransom at the behest of a salaried manager for too long. Modern club players have never had it worse in terms of their diet of regular high quality fixtures.
Perhaps our incumbent manager might address this.
After all - our internal administration have been found wanting.
Albeit an issue in all counties in the modern era.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jessie on August 05, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Bring on PJ knows the players and has a pedigree .
get 3 helpers from the next best 3 clubs COME ON ANTRIM WE CAN DO IT !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 05, 2015, 11:59:32 PM
The New Antrim Manager must either be a Southerner of Shane Elliott in my opinion, as Shane is the only man without Baggage. Jonty along the line is half wired, abusive towards his own/opposition players and managers and hasn't any respect from players outside of St Johns and what does his CV contain that makes him a creditable contender? PJ has taken digs at the Antrim/Dall players on numerous occasions on Paper/Twitter and while his man management skills & CV are much better than Jontys, those comments are stuck in our lads minds, rightly or wrongly that feeling is there.
Shane's skills are impressive  very astute, a better coach than the other 2( not sure PJ Coaches) a very likeable person, who I believe would have the respect of all the current squad and the lads we need back in from all clubs.
Although I'm worried that people believe that saving money on a southern coach means spending it on Dev Squads are living in Cuckoo land, it made no difference when Jingo/ Sambo/Woody where in, we'll piss the money down some other hole!! Why spend it on something useful??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on August 06, 2015, 12:36:30 AM
Just get rid of the Cushendall crowd and everything will be dandy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 06, 2015, 08:44:15 AM
 ::) :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 06, 2015, 09:20:06 AM
dont know what this nonsense about "the cushendall crowd" is all about

i know for a fact that no matter who is manager next year Cushendall will supply the County Panel 4/5/6/7/8 committed players like they always have.

Infact i think it should be PJ, then hopefully there will be no excuses / BS for players not committing to the county.

if he doesnt pick C'dall players (i know he will though) then all the better for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 06, 2015, 09:59:36 AM
He'd definitely pick Cushendall players. It would be folly not to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 06, 2015, 10:40:35 AM
i know he would, and any Cushendall player that really wanted to play for Antrim would go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 06, 2015, 12:09:54 PM
I wouldn't be so Confident of that Megaman, we have 2 lads who are retiring and one who has lost interest, so the only players sure to go are Ryan and Carson, but maybe you know better.
I feel the Southern route could be better, and even take PJ and Shane along with them, is that a thought?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 06, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
O'Mullan "interested" in Saffrons vacancy
05 August 2015

Loughgiel manager PJ O'Mullan. INPHO
Loughgiel Shamrocks' PJ O'Mullan jnr has declared his interest in taking over from Kevin Ryan as Antrim senior hurling manager.

Waterford native Ryan will step down as soon as the Saffrons' participation in the All-Ireland U-21 HC comes to an end.

And, speaking to The Irish News, All-Ireland club winning manager O'Mullan revealed: "Right now, my sole focus is Loughgiel but it's certainly something I'd be interested in doing.

"I've already been asked by a few people about it. There's no point in me saying I'm not interested."

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=242130
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 06, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 06, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
O'Mullan "interested" in Saffrons vacancy
05 August 2015

Loughgiel manager PJ O'Mullan. INPHO
Loughgiel Shamrocks' PJ O'Mullan jnr has declared his interest in taking over from Kevin Ryan as Antrim senior hurling manager.

Waterford native Ryan will step down as soon as the Saffrons' participation in the All-Ireland U-21 HC comes to an end.

And, speaking to The Irish News, All-Ireland club winning manager O'Mullan revealed: "Right now, my sole focus is Loughgiel but it's certainly something I'd be interested in doing.

"I've already been asked by a few people about it. There's no point in me saying I'm not interested."

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=242130
I dare say PJ would be more likely to achieve success with Loughgiel rather than Antrim, at  least he could be assured of buy in from his own club players.  The Dall men could troublesome for PJ if they don't get their way, given past shenanigans.  Just a thought!  (Not that I have anything against Dall men of course)


Hand Up - A Southerner, PJ and Shane, a case of too many cooks in the kitchen, don't you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2015, 05:27:08 PM
Is Shane a coach or a manager? two very different things in my opinion. Pj it seems is very much a manager (looking in) a manager needs to be viewing training sessions rather than setting them up and planning them.... The manager needs to sit with the coach and explain his views on the style of play and the coach plans drills exercises and whatever else to get that game plan up and running..

With us being in  the Christy Ring, staying local isn't a bad thing and could work out well for all involved.. a possible final in Croke park as bait I'd imagine there would be some managers wanting a crack at that for sure....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 07, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 06, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 06, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
O'Mullan "interested" in Saffrons vacancy
05 August 2015

Loughgiel manager PJ O'Mullan. INPHO
Loughgiel Shamrocks' PJ O'Mullan jnr has declared his interest in taking over from Kevin Ryan as Antrim senior hurling manager.

Waterford native Ryan will step down as soon as the Saffrons' participation in the All-Ireland U-21 HC comes to an end.

And, speaking to The Irish News, All-Ireland club winning manager O'Mullan revealed: "Right now, my sole focus is Loughgiel but it's certainly something I'd be interested in doing.

"I've already been asked by a few people about it. There's no point in me saying I'm not interested."

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=242130
I dare say PJ would be more likely to achieve success with Loughgiel rather than Antrim, at  least he could be assured of buy in from his own club players.  The Dall men could troublesome for PJ if they don't get their way, given past shenanigans.  Just a thought!  (Not that I have anything against Dall men of course)


Hand Up - A Southerner, PJ and Shane, a case of too many cooks in the kitchen, don't you think?

i know i shouldnt as i know you are just a WUM, but i will.

Can you maybe explain that comment a bit further, im just at a loss to understand it or maybe ive missed something, even by PM if you prefer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on August 07, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 05, 2015, 06:20:20 PM
  Until such underlying hostilities between clubs like Dall and Loughgiel are addresses, the status quo will remain.


Lads, as a Derry man with an interest in Antrim hurling where does the hostility between Loughgiel and Cushendall stem from? Is it a recent thing or did something spark it way back when?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 07, 2015, 12:50:53 PM
They're close geographically and arguably the two best teams in the county. Hurling is the only sport in the two areas and is the backbone of their respective communities. All you've to do now is add in the history of battles between the two on the hurling field and there is the answer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on August 07, 2015, 01:15:13 PM
Thanks for the reply hurlingstick.
So its a standard run of the mill rivalry that you would see in most counties?.
It certainly doesn't sound like it should affect the county team as much as some posters are suggesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 07, 2015, 12:50:53 PM
They're close geographically and arguably the two best teams in the county. Hurling is the only sport in the two areas and is the backbone of their respective communities. All you've to do now is add in the history of battles between the two on the hurling field and there is the answer.

Dunloy Loughgiel I'd have thought was a stronger rivalry!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2015, 01:52:07 PM
Doodaa it would be nothing any worse than any rivalries in Derry - in fact maybe wouldn't be as bad. It does seem at the minute that the "high profile" players from both clubs don't get on and if you listened to people then one high profile player in particular hasn't been picked on the back of this. This appears to have exarcerbated things a lot.

Dunloy Loughgiel would surely be worse with the 5 in row banners etc when Loughgiel were losing a run of finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
whilst i always want lgiel to be beat as our rivals at the same time there's no hostility between the two clubs. Both have a good respect for one another and work well at all levels, esp at under age level.

At the recent McGarry cup match our seniors were fed and watered after the games by Lgiel club with a great feed afterwards that any club would of been proud of.

We dont wish each other to win anything but we still respect one anothers achievements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 07, 2015, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2015, 01:52:07 PM
Doodaa it would be nothing any worse than any rivalries in Derry - in fact maybe wouldn't be as bad. It does seem at the minute that the "high profile" players from both clubs don't get on and if you listened to people then one high profile player in particular hasn't been picked on the back of this. This appears to have exarcerbated things a lot.

Dunloy Loughgiel would surely be worse with the 5 in row banners etc when Loughgiel were losing a run of finals.

good post/answer IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on August 07, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 07, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
whilst i always want lgiel to be beat as our rivals at the same time there's no hostility between the two clubs. Both have a good respect for one another and work well at all levels, esp at under age level.

At the recent McGarry cup match our seniors were fed and watered after the games by Lgiel club with a great feed afterwards that any club would of been proud of.

We dont wish each other to win anything but we still respect one anothers achievements.

That's what I thought as well.
Rivalries like that are healthy in the GAA IMO.

There does still seem to be a lot of posters on here suggesting that the Cushendall/ Loughgiel issue is one which is affecting the county team. As imtommygunn noted, its the same as the rivalries we have in Derry and we don't appear to have an issue with players not being picked due to this. (We have plenty of other issues mind you!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 07, 2015, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: doodaa on August 07, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 07, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
whilst i always want lgiel to be beat as our rivals at the same time there's no hostility between the two clubs. Both have a good respect for one another and work well at all levels, esp at under age level.

At the recent McGarry cup match our seniors were fed and watered after the games by Lgiel club with a great feed afterwards that any club would of been proud of.

We dont wish each other to win anything but we still respect one anothers achievements.

That's what I thought as well.
Rivalries like that are healthy in the GAA IMO.

There does still seem to be a lot of posters on here suggesting that the Cushendall/ Loughgiel issue is one which is affecting the county team. As imtommygunn noted, its the same as the rivalries we have in Derry and we don't appear to have an issue with players not being picked due to this. (We have plenty of other issues mind you!)

I think one of the issues is that there was a perception within Loughgeil that Kevin Ryan was very much influenced by his captain and Cushendall player Neil McManus, which if true was poor work by Ryan.

I'm sure that type of thing could be put to bed by another manager and as long as everyone is deemed to have a fair crack at it and prepared to put a full effort in for the collective good there can be no qualms.
No only do you need to be fair, you need to be seen to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
the cdall and lgiel thing isnt healthy or productive. Its went off the pitch, which isn't the clubs fault, but rather that of individuals.

Dunloy v Loughgiel is (most of the time) a real blood and thunder game where neither player or supporter will accept they will lose. Even now knowing Lgiel are way ahead of us on the pitch i still go to the game with them expecting us to win.

They are the same. Its breed into us as kids to want to beat each other :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 07, 2015, 07:21:40 PM
All sorted now - WUM = Wind Up Merchant, forgive me ignorance, honestly did not know what this meant!

Fair to say though, I am no more a WUM than anyone else here.  Have opinions, prejudices, suggestions, loyalties and dislikes just like everyone else, but probably a little more broad shouldered and thick skinned than others.

I'll leave it there though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 07, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
After DunloyRealist saying nice things about Loughgiel I firmly believe this is an attempt to lull Loughgiel into a false sense of security. Because of this Dunloy are clear favorites for the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 08, 2015, 12:52:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 07, 2015, 10:27:10 PM
After DunloyRealist saying nice things about Loughgiel I firmly believe this is an attempt to lull Loughgiel into a false sense of security. Because of this Dunloy are clear favorites for the championship.
seconded.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Watched Gorts labour against 14 men last night after St Endas had man sent off early in first half..... Any aspirations of going further would need to be addressed quickly.... But that may sound as I'm discrediting St Enda's who for my money hurled the better but lost due to the man advantage gorts had... Entertaining game, not one for the purists but plenty of championship heart
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 08, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Watched Gorts labour against 14 men last night after St Endas had man sent off early in first half..... Any aspirations of going further would need to be addressed quickly.... But that may sound as I'm discrediting St Enda's who for my money hurled the better but lost due to the man advantage gorts had... Entertaining game, not one for the purists but plenty of championship heart
we are certainly disapointed and had we all our forwards available and kept 15 on the pitch I am certain we could have taken it and of course had you been the man in the middle as well MR  ;).
Rossa were poor against us last year and then look what happened, so who knows for Gorts, they are not top end of the table for nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 08, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Watched Gorts labour against 14 men last night after St Endas had man sent off early in first half..... Any aspirations of going further would need to be addressed quickly.... But that may sound as I'm discrediting St Enda's who for my money hurled the better but lost due to the man advantage gorts had... Entertaining game, not one for the purists but plenty of championship heart
we are certainly disapointed and had we all our forwards available and kept 15 on the pitch I am certain we could have taken it and of course had you been the man in the middle as well MR  ;).
Rossa were poor against us last year and then look what happened, so who knows for Gorts, they are not top end of the table for nothing.

Plenty to be positive last Man.. Good progress and what I liked was a fierce amount of fight... That's all you can ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimgeal1989 on August 08, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 08, 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Watched Gorts labour against 14 men last night after St Endas had man sent off early in first half..... Any aspirations of going further would need to be addressed quickly.... But that may sound as I'm discrediting St Enda's who for my money hurled the better but lost due to the man advantage gorts had... Entertaining game, not one for the purists but plenty of championship heart
we are certainly disapointed and had we all our forwards available and kept 15 on the pitch I am certain we could have taken it and of course had you been the man in the middle as well MR  ;).
Rossa were poor against us last year and then look what happened, so who knows for Gorts, they are not top end of the table for nothing.

Why were all your forwards not available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 09, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Cloughmills beat us by a goal tonight in Ballycastle, gale force wind so we were 0-11 to 0-2 up at HT, but had a man sent off in first half. Weather ruined the game & the ref was about as inept as I have seen in a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Cloughmills beat us by a goal tonight in Ballycastle, gale force wind so we were 0-11 to 0-2 up at HT, but had a man sent off in first half. Weather ruined the game & the ref was about as inept as I have seen in a while.
Milltown Row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 12:29:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Cloughmills beat us by a goal tonight in Ballycastle, gale force wind so we were 0-11 to 0-2 up at HT, but had a man sent off in first half. Weather ruined the game & the ref was about as inept as I have seen in a while.

So was it the weather referee or the fact that Cloughmills were the better more discipline team?? 9 up is not bad considering, you'd have played extra man in defense anyways against a strong wind and played a time snapping dull second half and worked for score-able frees to tick over??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Cloughmills beat us by a goal tonight in Ballycastle, gale force wind so we were 0-11 to 0-2 up at HT, but had a man sent off in first half. Weather ruined the game & the ref was about as inept as I have seen in a while.
Milltown Row?

Sorry not guilty.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 12:35:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 09, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Cloughmills beat us by a goal tonight in Ballycastle, gale force wind so we were 0-11 to 0-2 up at HT, but had a man sent off in first half. Weather ruined the game & the ref was about as inept as I have seen in a while.
Milltown Row?

Sorry not guilty.....
I knew it wasn't you but sure you're not welcome in Ballycastle anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 09, 2015, 01:46:26 AM
Nail on the head mr2. Glenarriffe discipline non existent. Resorted to dirty slaps early doors left referee with little choice really. How many times over the years have u had men sent off in championship minder and blamed the ref? Cloughmills played well though and could've won by more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 09, 2015, 02:37:43 AM

Re WTF let's face it if you where a betting man, you'd pick one of the McDonnell's to get the road, they just take it in turns!! What I cant understand is why their teammates aren't cracking up with them constantly letting the Team/Club down? It's been said on here and elsewhere  many times before, than unless they sort their discipline out they'll never be a serious team,unfortunately!!
Our Reserves where beat tonight by Portaferry , as much by our own management as anything, childlike organisation again!! Very disappointing as with the team we have out against Dunloy would   have been favourites, but got beat by a hungrier team I'm told!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 09, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
Hand up, I was at the game in portaferry. I arrived half an hour before throw in. Our lads were already on the pitch warming up. We had 15 capable hurler on the pitch, many of them just didn't perform. Sometimes the players have to take responsibility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 09, 2015, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 09, 2015, 02:37:43 AM

Re WTF let's face it if you where a betting man, you'd pick one of the McDonnell's to get the road, they just take it in turns!! What I cant understand is why their teammates aren't cracking up with them constantly letting the Team/Club down? It's been said on here and elsewhere  many times before, than unless they sort their discipline out they'll never be a serious team,unfortunately!!
Our Reserves where beat tonight by Portaferry , as much by our own management as anything, childlike organisation again!! Very disappointing as with the team we have out against Dunloy would   have been favourites, but got beat by a hungrier team I'm told!!

Discipline is such a huge part of the game these days. U just can't go out and start taking the heads off boys "cos its championship "   U have to play it a bit smarter than that. Anybody from loughgiel will tell u they didn't start winning until they sorted out their discipline. Just watch how many frees they give away inside the scoring area I'd say u could count it on one hand every match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on August 09, 2015, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 09, 2015, 02:37:43 AM

Re WTF let's face it if you where a betting man, you'd pick one of the McDonnell's to get the road, they just take it in turns!! What I cant understand is why their teammates aren't cracking up with them constantly letting the Team/Club down? It's been said on here and elsewhere  many times before, than unless they sort their discipline out they'll never be a serious team,unfortunately!!
Our Reserves where beat tonight by Portaferry , as much by our own management as anything, childlike organisation again!! Very disappointing as with the team we have out against Dunloy would   have been favourites, but got beat by a hungrier team I'm told!!

Discipline is such a huge part of the game these days. U just can't go out and start taking the heads off boys "cos its championship "   U have to play it a bit smarter than that. Anybody from loughgiel will tell u they didn't start winning until they sorted out their discipline. Just watch how many frees they give away inside the scoring area I'd say u could count it on one hand every match.

You'd far rather let a man shoot under pressure than an easy free.... fitness and discipline are key factors without either of these you're a beaten team....

Good few games today... weather seems fine so the referee will be to blame mainly today !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 09, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
Just arrived at the Croke park hotel.
Hope u guys are all supporting the deise today!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 09, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
Just arrived at the Croke park hotel.
Hope u guys are all supporting the deise today!
some of us prefer the Gresham.  ;). The minor match isn't half bad ,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Result from division 1. Clooney gaels 0-14 shamrocks 3-27
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 09, 2015, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Result from division 1. Clooney gaels 0-14 shamrocks 3-27
Champions elect  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 09, 2015, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
Result from division 1. Clooney gaels 0-14 shamrocks 3-27
Champions elect  ;)
ah no. Cushendall team to beat. Reigning champions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 09, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't I tell you lot Dunloy were favorites for the championship!!

Dunloy 3-17 Cushendall 3-12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 11:45:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 09, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't I tell you lot Dunloy were favorites for the championship!!

Dunloy 3-17 Cushendall 3-12.

Good result but Dunloy always seem to do well against Cushendall, any fire and brimstone in the game?? Teams must be finalising their best 15 for championship now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 10, 2015, 01:35:15 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 09, 2015, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 09, 2015, 01:12:32 PM
Just arrived at the Croke park hotel.
Hope u guys are all supporting the deise today!
some of us prefer the Gresham.  ;). The minor match isn't half bad ,

SiE the minor game was great fare - I never cease to be amazed by the size of some of these young lads. They are a different breed to our sort. Any suggestions as to why?

I take the senior defeat well because the best team won. Waterford did the county proud but I never thought there was anything other than a Kilkenny win. TJ & Richie are just incredible hurlers - but Waterford are young and hopefully Croke park will turn into a nicer place in years to come.

Just checking Antrim results online. Some interesting stuff before championship!
The johnnies remain the most relevant city team but can they trouble cushendall?
Rossa have the best draw but are they able for senior championship hurling?
Loughuile have the best panel - but can anyone pip them 15 v 15?
It's back to club championship time now and really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2015, 11:45:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 09, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't I tell you lot Dunloy were favorites for the championship!!

Dunloy 3-17 Cushendall 3-12.

Good result but Dunloy always seem to do well against Cushendall, any fire and brimstone in the game?? Teams must be finalising their best 15 for championship now

Was played at a good pace and intensity with 100% effort from both teams.   
You'd have thought there'd be more 'neutrals' at the game seeing as the favourites for the championship were playing each other. Didn't see many. Strange that  ::)   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 10, 2015, 08:46:48 AM
Cushendun couldn't get a team yesterday, sad to see as in my playing days, they were hard games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2015, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 09, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
Didn't I tell you lot Dunloy were favorites for the championship!!

Dunloy 3-17 Cushendall 3-12.

;D

Was an odd game yday, very dead atmosphere but a really good scoring one. Both teams played well in periods and took some nice scores.

We must be favs to win it now surely?

Lgiel could only score 3 goals against Cloney and we hit 5, means were a better team does it not? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 10, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
We've still injuries that are worrying and the players who have recently came back need time to get back up to speed and get some match sharpness. Only 2 league matches left to try and get things right before Championship quarter final. Tough to compete in these circumstances. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
We've still injuries that are worrying and the players who have recently came back need time to get back up to speed and get some match sharpness. Only 2 league matches left to try and get things right before Championship quarter final. Tough to compete in these circumstances.

Johnnies hurled well enough yesterday, still feel they are missing 2/3 forwards to actually do some harm.. they should give youse a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
We've still injuries that are worrying and the players who have recently came back need time to get back up to speed and get some match sharpness. Only 2 league matches left to try and get things right before Championship quarter final. Tough to compete in these circumstances.

a lot of teams in the same boat JJ. we have struggled all season with it. Nice to see alot of them back again but as you say, takes time to get up to speed again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 10, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
Agree DR  Strange game, for our prospective we'd have been delighted with some of the scores in the first half and our forwards actually moved well, although having Niel and Shane back gave up more quality that we previously had on show, no disprespect to the lads who have filled in. Although the scores we conceded after scoring goals is a worry, some lads not hurling well in the back line, we are too loose.
The 2nd half with the wind was a total let down on our behalf, the work rate and intensity dropped considerably and perhaps The midfield tired which was to be expected. Dunloy must have been delighted, I'd say their best showing of the year, hand up I'd have said previously they have no chance for the championship now if they push on, why not?? Shorty was again immense yesterday, and Nigel gave Ryan a torrid day , if those 2 remain fit!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2015, 03:34:52 PM
Cushendall always seem to struggle with NIgel Elliot. He's cleaned them out a few times I've seen them play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2015, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 10, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
Agree DR  Strange game, for our prospective we'd have been delighted with some of the scores in the first half and our forwards actually moved well, although having Niel and Shane back gave up more quality that we previously had on show, no disprespect to the lads who have filled in. Although the scores we conceded after scoring goals is a worry, some lads not hurling well in the back line, we are too loose.
The 2nd half with the wind was a total let down on our behalf, the work rate and intensity dropped considerably and perhaps The midfield tired which was to be expected. Dunloy must have been delighted, I'd say their best showing of the year, hand up I'd have said previously they have no chance for the championship now if they push on, why not?? Shorty was again immense yesterday, and Nigel gave Ryan a torrid day , if those 2 remain fit!!

yeah prob the best ive seen us play this year. Any time ive seen the games we have been grand in spells and then all over the place and conceded daft scores and possession.

Still its good to see a decent perfomance for a change.

Someone joked yday that theres a danger of us getting into the final! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 10, 2015, 09:25:59 PM
Sure you'll be in the final handy enough DR. Yourselves and Loughgiel...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2015, 08:15:13 AM
himmm i wouldnt be as confident. You never know what sort of performance we could come up with next game.

I will see how we fare against Portaferry this sunday and see if we play the same way again or its back to the same old.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
When are the first games in the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
See our corner back Adam has a broken bone (or two) in the hand after Sundays game. It happens sure and was on the ball ... but I was struck by (what I consider) the intent of his opponent in the minutes before he got the blow when the game wasn't going in his favor .... a trait I've seen from him on several occasions in similar circumstances. That wicked drop shot is not just being used just to move the ball on. A hurler who is overly interested in the man very soon finds out its a two way street.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2015, 10:01:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
See our corner back Adam has a broken bone (or two) in the hand after Sundays game. It happens sure and was on the ball ... but I was struck by (what I consider) the intent of his opponent in the minutes before he got the blow when the game wasn't going in his favor .... a trait I've seen from him on several occasions in similar circumstances. That wicked drop shot is not just being used just to move the ball on. A hurler who is overly interested in the man very soon finds out its a two way street.

I can think of one or two others who have used that drop shot in the past and IMO very little if any of it had to do with playing the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
See our corner back Adam has a broken bone (or two) in the hand after Sundays game. It happens sure and was on the ball ... but I was struck by (what I consider) the intent of his opponent in the minutes before he got the blow when the game wasn't going in his favor .... a trait I've seen from him on several occasions in similar circumstances. That wicked drop shot is not just being used just to move the ball on. A hurler who is overly interested in the man very soon finds out its a two way street.

Which Adam was it skull
O kane or mullan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 11, 2015, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
See our corner back Adam has a broken bone (or two) in the hand after Sundays game. It happens sure and was on the ball ... but I was struck by (what I consider) the intent of his opponent in the minutes before he got the blow when the game wasn't going in his favor .... a trait I've seen from him on several occasions in similar circumstances. That wicked drop shot is not just being used just to move the ball on. A hurler who is overly interested in the man very soon finds out its a two way street.

Which Adam was it skull
O kane or mullan
I've a fair idea who you are talking about and there's certainly a rude awaking waiting for him in the near future if someone doesn't have a word in his ear soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2015, 10:29:17 AM
It has always been a a strange stroke.. Never played it but been on the end of a few... With the game soo quick now if you haven't got your stick in the right position to protect yourself then you'll get a whack...

Bummer for the lad leading up to championship ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2015, 03:34:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 11, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
See our corner back Adam has a broken bone (or two) in the hand after Sundays game. It happens sure and was on the ball ... but I was struck by (what I consider) the intent of his opponent in the minutes before he got the blow when the game wasn't going in his favor .... a trait I've seen from him on several occasions in similar circumstances. That wicked drop shot is not just being used just to move the ball on. A hurler who is overly interested in the man very soon finds out its a two way street.

Which Adam was it skull
O kane or mullan

Adam O'Kane. real pity for the lad as he played really well on sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
I'd say everyone feels for young O' Kane suffering an injury that'll likely mean he misses championship action but listen boys, some of you need to get over yourselves. I would never condone deliberate striking but come on. Hurling is a contact sport and sometimes people get injured by complete accident. What are you complaining about? The injury to the lads hand or the drop shot or both? He hardly hit him on the hand with a drop shot. Are we going to curtail the way you are allowed to hit the ball now as well? In my opinion a drop shot is an excellent way to get a shot away when space is at a premium. Just because a defender isn't expecting it and isn't quick enough to adjust doesn't mean the forward is doing anything other than striking the ball. Drop shots are within the rules of the game. I'm yet to see a referee give a free against the player in question or any other player attempting a drop shot. No more drop shots? Whats next? We may get the children to play tennis...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2015, 04:12:33 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
I'd say everyone feels for young O' Kane suffering an injury that'll likely mean he misses championship action but listen boys, some of you need to get over yourselves. I would never condone deliberate striking but come on. Hurling is a contact sport and sometimes people get injured by complete accident. What are you complaining about? The injury to the lads hand or the drop shot or both? He hardly hit him on the hand with a drop shot. Are we going to curtail the way you are allowed to hit the ball now as well? In my opinion a drop shot is an excellent way to get a shot away when space is at a premium. Just because a defender isn't expecting it and isn't quick enough to adjust doesn't mean the forward is doing anything other than striking the ball. Drop shots are within the rules of the game. I'm yet to see a referee give a free against the player in question or any other player attempting a drop shot. No more drop shots? Whats next? We may get the children to play tennis...

JJ That is all very good and I am not talking about this particular incident I am referring to shot in general terms. In all my years of watching hurling I have yet to see a player playing the drop shot with any other intention that to cause some sort of damage to the direct opponent at that time. It is not an effective shot to get the ball away as it requires a full swing plus in all likelihood the ball is going to ricochet off the opponents legs or hurl.

I can think of players from different clubs who I have see doing it over the years and to me it has always been a cowards chance of inflicting a bit of damage on an opposition player. Didnt call for it to be banned but if IMO when I think of the players that I have seen use it over the years that would more or less fit with my theory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:20:07 PM
Sure give us a list, we'll slate them all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2015, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:20:07 PM
Sure give us a list, we'll slate them all.

:) No thanks, as I said it was in my opinion, other may differ as is the nature of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
I'd say everyone feels for young O' Kane suffering an injury that'll likely mean he misses championship action but listen boys, some of you need to get over yourselves. I would never condone deliberate striking but come on. Hurling is a contact sport and sometimes people get injured by complete accident. What are you complaining about? The injury to the lads hand or the drop shot or both? He hardly hit him on the hand with a drop shot. Are we going to curtail the way you are allowed to hit the ball now as well? In my opinion a drop shot is an excellent way to get a shot away when space is at a premium. Just because a defender isn't expecting it and isn't quick enough to adjust doesn't mean the forward is doing anything other than striking the ball. Drop shots are within the rules of the game. I'm yet to see a referee give a free against the player in question or any other player attempting a drop shot. No more drop shots? Whats next? We may get the children to play tennis...

I'm complaining about a wicked drop shot (full blooded swing) being used as a method of injuring an opponent who is getting the better of you. Nothing wrong with the shot per se if the intent to injure isn't the prime motive. Laughable you think its a useful shot. Dropping the ball at an opponents feet is a totally sh1te way of moving the ball on IMO. I haven't seen it for years at IC level...I wonder why? Yes its well within the rules, just as throwing the ball up in an opponents face and swinging is within the rules. You're blind if you can't see that. No odds to me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
The player you are talking about scored 1-6 in the match. He was hardly being gotten the better off...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
I'd say everyone feels for young O' Kane suffering an injury that'll likely mean he misses championship action but listen boys, some of you need to get over yourselves. I would never condone deliberate striking but come on. Hurling is a contact sport and sometimes people get injured by complete accident. What are you complaining about? The injury to the lads hand or the drop shot or both? He hardly hit him on the hand with a drop shot. Are we going to curtail the way you are allowed to hit the ball now as well? In my opinion a drop shot is an excellent way to get a shot away when space is at a premium. Just because a defender isn't expecting it and isn't quick enough to adjust doesn't mean the forward is doing anything other than striking the ball. Drop shots are within the rules of the game. I'm yet to see a referee give a free against the player in question or any other player attempting a drop shot. No more drop shots? Whats next? We may get the children to play tennis...

I'm complaining about a wicked drop shot (full blooded swing) being used as a method of injuring an opponent who is getting the better of you. Nothing wrong with the shot per se if the intent to injure isn't the prime motive. Laughable you think its a useful shot. Dropping the ball at an opponents feet is a totally sh1te way of moving the ball on IMO. I haven't seen it for years at IC level...I wonder why? Yes its well within the rules, just as throwing the ball up in an opponents face and swinging is within the rules. You're blind if you can't see that. No odds to me. 

It's a hard one to call from a referee's point of view you gotta determine if the intent is there , be a big argument from both sets of players when you do call it, bit like the pulling in the air early stroke, not as much of it about now (well from games I've done lately)...

I don't mind hard honest challenges when going for the ball, some people genuinely miss the ball and connect with a player, it's a foul its a late challenge but if there is no intent (in my view) rightly or wrongly I generally tick/note the player and let him know that the next time it's a booking....


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 11, 2015, 06:01:58 PM
The drop shot was/is a great skill when used correctly, I remember 2 Antrim Greats who used it regularly, Mick O Connell, and Randal Mc Donnell Snr, Hardly Cowards!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 11, 2015, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2015, 05:50:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
I'd say everyone feels for young O' Kane suffering an injury that'll likely mean he misses championship action but listen boys, some of you need to get over yourselves. I would never condone deliberate striking but come on. Hurling is a contact sport and sometimes people get injured by complete accident. What are you complaining about? The injury to the lads hand or the drop shot or both? He hardly hit him on the hand with a drop shot. Are we going to curtail the way you are allowed to hit the ball now as well? In my opinion a drop shot is an excellent way to get a shot away when space is at a premium. Just because a defender isn't expecting it and isn't quick enough to adjust doesn't mean the forward is doing anything other than striking the ball. Drop shots are within the rules of the game. I'm yet to see a referee give a free against the player in question or any other player attempting a drop shot. No more drop shots? Whats next? We may get the children to play tennis...

Agree with that MR but in this case i think if marked tenaciously the trend is for a few craftily timed wild pulls to buy a bit of room. Not something I'd coach or condone anyway for the simple reason that many's a bad turn has been returned on the hurling field and theres little point in building a reputation as a young man and not expect it to come back to bite you at some point. He'd be better using his considerable skill in other ways in these occasions.

I'm complaining about a wicked drop shot (full blooded swing) being used as a method of injuring an opponent who is getting the better of you. Nothing wrong with the shot per se if the intent to injure isn't the prime motive. Laughable you think its a useful shot. Dropping the ball at an opponents feet is a totally sh1te way of moving the ball on IMO. I haven't seen it for years at IC level...I wonder why? Yes its well within the rules, just as throwing the ball up in an opponents face and swinging is within the rules. You're blind if you can't see that. No odds to me. 

It's a hard one to call from a referee's point of view you gotta determine if the intent is there , be a big argument from both sets of players when you do call it, bit like the pulling in the air early stroke, not as much of it about now (well from games I've done lately)...

I don't mind hard honest challenges when going for the ball, some people genuinely miss the ball and connect with a player, it's a foul its a late challenge but if there is no intent (in my view) rightly or wrongly I generally tick/note the player and let him know that the next time it's a booking....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
There was a deliberate strike to the head last week in the reserve championship quarter final between the same 2 teams that earned a Dunloy man a straight red card. There wasn't as much as a murmur on here about it. Isn't it interesting what (or maybe who) people pick on.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Interesting? How so?

Has the player who got the line a reputation? Was it a particularly malicious stoke aimed to seriously damage your player? If so I would have expected you to have mentioned it? Not needed in our games

Was it though? I was at another game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2015, 09:57:42 PM
Well firstly the young player people are discussing today hasn't even hurled senior for 2 years. Hardly enough time to gain a reputation. As for the incident in the reserve championship match. It was a genuinely bad strike but to my mind it came out of frustration at the way the game was going. A spur of the moment mistake that I'm sure the player regrets. It could have caused serious damage but thankfully it didn't. Sadly these incidents happen from time to time, we've all seen them. I didn't bring it up originally because no damage was done, the referee dealt with it properly and it didn't effect the result of the game. I have now raised it because I feel some have set off on a totally unjustified witch hunt on one of our players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 11, 2015, 10:17:50 PM
There's nothing unjustified about it. Players build their own reputations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 12, 2015, 07:22:05 AM
Can I just say I tip my cloth cap to those in the CE and friends of casement in their introduction to the table allegedly the opportunity now to bring in the last remaining sport to insure casement parks survival or whatever name they agree? I for one would welcome Donegal Celtic to the stadium its membership with the FAI and look forward to watching Bohs, Derry City or Shamrocks (11 a side)! Maximise its potential and generate more revenue to insure dunsillys future. Well done lads........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 12, 2015, 08:38:10 AM
Are we still sore about the young lad banging in the goals that ended Loughgiel and Dunloy's championship aspirations last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 12, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
eh no, we were crap last year. We didn't complain about getting beat.

One players goals didn't make us play as poorly an entire season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 12, 2015, 09:32:47 AM
Going through Refs on County Website to see which club a ref was from and seen this ref
Liam Mc Bribe Carey Faughs. ;D maybe a bit immature but I thought by the name it was a wind up. Can anyone confirm if this Ref exists as I had never heard of him but found his name funny in the context of being a referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2015, 09:48:08 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 12, 2015, 09:32:47 AM
Going through Refs on County Website to see which club a ref was from and seen this ref
Liam Mc Bribe Carey Faughs. ;D maybe a bit immature but I thought by the name it was a wind up. Can anyone confirm if this Ref exists as I had never heard of him but found his name funny in the context of being a referee

It's Liam McBride
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: shoebox on August 12, 2015, 10:26:07 AM
I think he knew that. Liam is a Carey man and is one of our more colourful referees. The man is an out and out true gael.

Takes all sorts!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2015, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 12, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
For the record, I know Liam and his family well and he is a good guy.

It's been very quiet regarding Belfast's old firm game on Sunday.  What was your assessment, MR2?

Was a good game to referee, plenty of hard hurling, some players over zealous but considering the teams I have seen a lot worse between them. Rossa elected to play against the wind first and were only 5 behind at half time, the breeze wasn't as strong in the second half and it was the Johnnies that tacked on a few early points to keep ahead... Rossa came back at them with a goal and bring it back to 2 points but the Johnnies tacked on a couple more points to win by 4... Must say Brian McFaul put over a point in the first half which was brilliant, could still be a threat against Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 12, 2015, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2015, 08:38:10 AM
Are we still sore about the young lad banging in the goals that ended Loughgiel and Dunloy's championship aspirations last year?
who from loughgiel mentioned anything about this balls use are talking about as two days.  I personally couldn't give two hoots,  it's 15 V 15.  Best team wins.  Get over it and yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2015, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 12, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2015, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 12, 2015, 12:14:58 PM
For the record, I know Liam and his family well and he is a good guy.

It's been very quiet regarding Belfast's old firm game on Sunday.  What was your assessment, MR2?

Was a good game to referee, plenty of hard hurling, some players over zealous but considering the teams I have seen a lot worse between them. Rossa elected to play against the wind first and were only 5 behind at half time, the breeze wasn't as strong in the second half and it was the Johnnies that tacked on a few early points to keep ahead... Rossa came back at them with a goal and bring it back to 2 points but the Johnnies tacked on a couple more points to win by 4... Must say Brian McFaul put over a point in the first half which was brilliant, could still be a threat against Cushendall

Yea, I heard he did a bit of damage from FF.  Although if they are having to rely on Brian for scores at his age, it could also be seen as a worrying sign for them.  Did the two Johnstons play?  That game v Cushendall will be interesting.

No it won't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2015, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 12, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Ok. I'll rephrase it.  I hope the game v Cushendall will be interesting.

;)

I think every hurling fan has been hoping for a while that St Johns would make a championship game interesting but has yet to materialise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again;
St Johns are the pick the city teams at the minute - but they could win 10 minors in a row and won't win anything at senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Johnnies possibly shy two good players for me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 12, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again;
St Johns are the pick the city teams at the minute - but they could win 10 minors in a row and won't win anything at senior.
Not a lot to pick from, but either way I don't see them going anywhere any time soon.  Still shy of a few decent players which will determine whether they can make an impact or not.  Despite some of their young players at under 21 and minor, they don't appear to be make any serious in roads at all.  Dare say North Antrim teams will have nothing to fear from city teams for the time being. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2015, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 12, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again;
St Johns are the pick the city teams at the minute - but they could win 10 minors in a row and won't win anything at senior.
Not a lot to pick from, but either way I don't see them going anywhere any time soon.  Still shy of a few decent players which will determine whether they can make an impact or not.  Despite some of their young players at under 21 and minor, they don't appear to be make any serious in roads at all.  Dare say North Antrim teams will have nothing to fear from city teams for the time being.

Very true I'm afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 13, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
I can tell you we are worried about The Johnnies...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 13, 2015, 09:30:33 AM
Yeh and we might put cotton wool in our ears!!

On a separate note sad sad news on the man who was shot, his Daughters where playing Camogie for the Johnnies v The Town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 13, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
i can assure you Cushendall are not taking this game lightly

The way Cushendall have been playing this year added with their injury list they would be fools too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 13, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 13, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
i can assure you Cushendall are not taking this game lightly

The way Cushendall have been playing this year added with their injury list they would be fools too.

A division 1 team and another division 1 team in championship - why would they take it lightly?
Why would it need pointed out that they are not taking it lightly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 14, 2015, 11:07:24 AM

Down manager Mickey Johnson.
©INPHO/Presseye/William Cherry.

Down hurling manager Mickey Johnson has quelled speculation linking him to the vacancy in his native Antrim.

Johnson, who lost out to Kevin Ryan for the Antrim post in 2012, says he is committed to Down for at least one more season.

"I'm currently the Down senior hurling manager and I will be the Down senior hurling manager, as far as I'm concerned, in 2016," the Belfast man told the Irish News.

"It's all to do with timing. It's an absolute privilege for anybody to be involved with any county team – to be in involved in your own county team would be an absolute honour whether it's minor, U21 or senior.

"Of course it's everybody's aspiration to manage their own county at a time, but it's all to do with timing."


According to the website of truth.. Hogan Stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 14, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:18:32 AM
It's in the Irish news.

Accept my deepest apologies, I've not had the chance to see the paper today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
No need for the deep apologies :)

Smaller championship season just about to start proper at all levels.  Going to try and get to as many games as possible over the next week and a bit.

Creggan v St Pauls tonight - Creggan to win that by a cricket score.
Gorts v Armoy tomorrow - Gorts to win.
Cushendun v Cloughmills - Cloughmills.
Sarsfields v Carey on Sunday - Carey to beat Sarsfields (how they have managed to go from Div 1 to relegation candidates is beyond me).

Next Saturday
Rossa v Ballycastle - Fancy Rossa to win that one.
St Galls v Shamrocks - Shamrocks to win. (Champions elect).
Both these games are at Corrigan.

Sunday
Dunloy v Clooney Gaels - Dunloy handy.
Cushendall v St John's - Cushendall but hopefully Johnnies give it a good lash.
Why aren't the Sunday fixtures a double header somewhere?  Ballycastle would have been perfect.

Unless Gorts improve and play for the whole 60 minutes then they may get bate!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
No need for the deep apologies :)

Smaller championship season just about to start proper at all levels.  Going to try and get to as many games as possible over the next week and a bit.

Creggan v St Pauls tonight - Creggan to win that by a cricket score.
Gorts v Armoy tomorrow - Gorts to win.
Cushendun v Cloughmills - Cloughmills.
Sarsfields v Carey on Sunday - Carey to beat Sarsfields (how they have managed to go from Div 1 to relegation candidates is beyond me).

Next Saturday
Rossa v Ballycastle - Fancy Rossa to win that one.
St Galls v Shamrocks - Shamrocks to win. (Champions elect).
Both these games are at Corrigan.

Sunday
Dunloy v Clooney Gaels - Dunloy handy.
Cushendall v St John's - Cushendall but hopefully Johnnies give it a good lash.
Why aren't the Sunday fixtures a double header somewhere?  Ballycastle would have been perfect.

I would say its because Ballycastle isnt a proper hurling pitch, the wind ruins too many games and there is a distinct lack of atmosphere played at any game there. But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
No need for the deep apologies :)

Smaller championship season just about to start proper at all levels.  Going to try and get to as many games as possible over the next week and a bit.

Creggan v St Pauls tonight - Creggan to win that by a cricket score.
Gorts v Armoy tomorrow - Gorts to win.
Cushendun v Cloughmills - Cloughmills.
Sarsfields v Carey on Sunday - Carey to beat Sarsfields (how they have managed to go from Div 1 to relegation candidates is beyond me).

Next Saturday
Rossa v Ballycastle - Fancy Rossa to win that one.
St Galls v Shamrocks - Shamrocks to win. (Champions elect).
Both these games are at Corrigan.

Sunday
Dunloy v Clooney Gaels - Dunloy handy.
Cushendall v St John's - Cushendall but hopefully Johnnies give it a good lash.
Why aren't the Sunday fixtures a double header somewhere?  Ballycastle would have been perfect.

I would say its because Ballycastle isnt a proper hurling pitch, the wind ruins too many games and there is a distinct lack of atmosphere played at any game there. But that's just my opinion.

Can't give an opinion on Ballycastle it seems so I'll take your word for it  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 14, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
I haven't seen much of them at all. Going on what I know about them (the players they have) and their results this year which ultimately is a testament to how they are going.  Are Armoy better than them?

Having seen both, I'd fancy the Gorts, they hold possession well, maybe lacking a few decent forwards, but Armoy are strong up the middle, but poorish on the periphery.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 14, 2015, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
No need for the deep apologies :)

Smaller championship season just about to start proper at all levels.  Going to try and get to as many games as possible over the next week and a bit.

Creggan v St Pauls tonight - Creggan to win that by a cricket score.
Gorts v Armoy tomorrow - Gorts to win.
Cushendun v Cloughmills - Cloughmills.
Sarsfields v Carey on Sunday - Carey to beat Sarsfields (how they have managed to go from Div 1 to relegation candidates is beyond me).

Next Saturday
Rossa v Ballycastle - Fancy Rossa to win that one.
St Galls v Shamrocks - Shamrocks to win. (Champions elect).
Both these games are at Corrigan.

Sunday
Dunloy v Clooney Gaels - Dunloy handy.
Cushendall v St John's - Cushendall but hopefully Johnnies give it a good lash.
Why aren't the Sunday fixtures a double header somewhere?  Ballycastle would have been perfect.

I would say its because Ballycastle isnt a proper hurling pitch, the wind ruins too many games and there is a distinct lack of atmosphere played at any game there. But that's just my opinion.

100% agree. They have fantastic facilities etc etc but it is a horrible place to play a match. The wind up there ruins >75% of matches played I'd say. No atmosphere either due to it being so sparse and open. County matches and club finals need to go back to Lgiel/Dunloy IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 14, 2015, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 14, 2015, 11:07:24 AM

Down manager Mickey Johnson.
©INPHO/Presseye/William Cherry.

Down hurling manager Mickey Johnson has quelled speculation linking him to the vacancy in his native Antrim.

Johnson, who lost out to Kevin Ryan for the Antrim post in 2012, says he is committed to Down for at least one more season.

"I'm currently the Down senior hurling manager and I will be the Down senior hurling manager, as far as I'm concerned, in 2016," the Belfast man told the Irish News.

"It's all to do with timing. It's an absolute privilege for anybody to be involved with any county team – to be in involved in your own county team would be an absolute honour whether it's minor, U21 or senior.

"Of course it's everybody's aspiration to manage their own county at a time, but it's all to do with timing."


According to the website of truth.. Hogan Stand.
Well, that is a relief, phew!  I am not convinced the time will ever be right for Jonty, I reckon he has ruffled one feather too many.

Well off to the fair city for the weekend to watch my beloved Tipp beat the Tribesmen.  Certainly shaping up for a Tipp v Kilkenny battle once more, but stranger things have happened which you cant lose sight of.  As I have said previously, championship is championship and anything may happen on a given day.  Much like our local scene, always the potential for an upset which keeps Paddy Power & Co. happy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 14, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: cfclg on August 14, 2015, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 14, 2015, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
No need for the deep apologies :)

Smaller championship season just about to start proper at all levels.  Going to try and get to as many games as possible over the next week and a bit.

Creggan v St Pauls tonight - Creggan to win that by a cricket score.
Gorts v Armoy tomorrow - Gorts to win.
Cushendun v Cloughmills - Cloughmills.
Sarsfields v Carey on Sunday - Carey to beat Sarsfields (how they have managed to go from Div 1 to relegation candidates is beyond me).

Next Saturday
Rossa v Ballycastle - Fancy Rossa to win that one.
St Galls v Shamrocks - Shamrocks to win. (Champions elect).
Both these games are at Corrigan.

Sunday
Dunloy v Clooney Gaels - Dunloy handy.
Cushendall v St John's - Cushendall but hopefully Johnnies give it a good lash.
Why aren't the Sunday fixtures a double header somewhere?  Ballycastle would have been perfect.

I would say its because Ballycastle isnt a proper hurling pitch, the wind ruins too many games and there is a distinct lack of atmosphere played at any game there. But that's just my opinion.

100% agree. They have fantastic facilities etc etc but it is a horrible place to play a match. The wind up there ruins >75% of matches played I'd say. No atmosphere either due to it being so sparse and open. County matches and club finals need to go back to Lgiel/Dunloy IMO.

Lgiels the best place for a championship match. Fans are right on top of the pitch and its a good viewing all around it. A ballaix to get parked at but you can work with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 14, 2015, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 14, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
I haven't seen much of them at all. Going on what I know about them (the players they have) and their results this year which ultimately is a testament to how they are going.  Are Armoy better than them?

Having seen both, I'd fancy the Gorts, they hold possession well, maybe lacking a few decent forwards, but Armoy are strong up the middle, but poorish on the periphery.

I don't think you can look past them to be honest.  If Armoy were to win, it would be a shock to me.  That said, Cloughmills took out the favourites in the first round.

Are the championship games not the last weekend in Aug 29th/ 30th? CORRECTION

Maybe I misread it somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 04:00:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/McQuillanGAC/photos/a.10151855203723764.1073741829.232165613763/10153530773818764/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/McQuillanGAC/photos/a.10151855203723764.1073741829.232165613763/10153530773818764/?type=1&theater)
When crowds went to games. How do we get back to those halcyon days  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 14, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
Great photo Skull!
I agree Dunloy creates a better atmosphere and games than Ballycastle - and Loughguile is the pick of our venues.
Ballycastle seems to get the nod to support the new facilities and for traffic/parking.
But no matter where it is it looks like the big crowds of the 80s & 90s are gone - great days indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 04:00:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/McQuillanGAC/photos/a.10151855203723764.1073741829.232165613763/10153530773818764/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/McQuillanGAC/photos/a.10151855203723764.1073741829.232165613763/10153530773818764/?type=1&theater)
When crowds went to games. How do we get back to those halcyon days  :-\

Loughgiel player showing great restraint..... Any Castle player will do!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 14, 2015, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?
I think the rule is a straight red but lately I've seen refs settle for a yellow in both club and County games. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?

Simple.... Red card... Any referee who sees it (the get out clause  ;D ) should be giving red card
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 14, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 14, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
Great photo Skull!
I agree Dunloy creates a better atmosphere and games than Ballycastle - and Loughguile is the pick of our venues.
Ballycastle seems to get the nod to support the new facilities and for traffic/parking.
But no matter where it is it looks like the big crowds of the 80s & 90s are gone - great days indeed.
What about Cushendall as a venue for championship matches? Good pitch and good bank for spectators
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 14, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
I agree. Enough room for parking in the Dall too if it was marshalled well enough.  If would be a very iconic venue if anything with the Lurig in the background.

Glenariffe's a better backdrop for the Lurig
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 15, 2015, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?

Simple.... Red card... Any referee who sees it (the get out clause  ;D ) should be giving red card

I've seen the same ref give yellows at an U16 and a minor game inside the last 10 days.  :-\
Why does someone who knows the rules not apply them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 15, 2015, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?

Simple.... Red card... Any referee who sees it (the get out clause  ;D ) should be giving red card

I've seen the same ref give yellows at an U16 and a minor game inside the last 10 days.  :-\
Why does someone who knows the rules not apply them?

Maybe and I don't know who the referee is.... But some referees may feel its a harsh sending off, and give a yellow... Be strange though as why are you giving a yellow? If he sees that foul it's a red, why players are still doing it is beyond me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2015, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 15, 2015, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2015, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 14, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
Whats the rule on grabbing/tackling a man by the helmet as he's coming through?

Very Dangerous

Yellow or Red?

Simple.... Red card... Any referee who sees it (the get out clause  ;D ) should be giving red card

I've seen the same ref give yellows at an U16 and a minor game inside the last 10 days.  :-\
Why does someone who knows the rules not apply them?

Maybe and I don't know who the referee is.... But some referees may feel its a harsh sending off, and give a yellow... Be strange though as why are you giving a yellow? If he sees that foul it's a red, why players are still doing it is beyond me
The players are still doing it because the refs aren't taking the proper action against it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 15, 2015, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
Maybe and I don't know who the referee is.... But some referees may feel its a harsh sending off, and give a yellow... Be strange though as why are you giving a yellow? If he sees that foul it's a red, why players are still doing it is beyond me

Could I suggest because easy going 'let her go' referees let them away with it ..... as sure they're only kids? It would be a straight red in senior championship (with the big crowd watching the referee) so why not teach the proper rules early? Not doing the game any good (especially the players doing it) in the long run. Do we not want more disciplined defenders to know controlled aggression is what its all about? Of course thats primarily the role of the coaches but referees need to back it up.


Another one

Grabbing the jersey blatantly as a player bears down on goal (possibly irrelevant point)  ...referee allows advantage with the 5 second rule. Is that foul a yellow card that should still be dealt with by the referee at the next break in play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 15, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
Is Loughiel v Ballycran on tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 15, 2015, 07:50:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 15, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
Is Loughiel v Ballycran on tonight?
half time. Loughgiel 0-14 to 0-05 up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 15, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
That was so one sided. Ballycran were really poor. Tony McCloskey seems to be in full back to stay. Benny McCarry came off the bench. Joey Scullion is back to the player he was a couple of seasons ago. Loughiel will win the championship at a canter. Don't let anyone try to fool you otherwise. PS Again whatever the big mouths say, Eamonn Hasson is a quality referee. PS PS, great win for Gort Na Mona
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2015, 10:15:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 15, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
That was so one sided. Ballycran were really poor. Tony McCloskey seems to be in full back to stay. Benny McCarry came off the bench. Joey Scullion is back to the player he was a couple of seasons ago. Loughiel will win the championship at a canter. Don't let anyone try to fool you otherwise. PS Again whatever the big mouths say, Eamonn Hasson is a quality referee. PS PS, great win for Gort Na Mona
He is....and a nice guy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 15, 2015, 10:27:58 PM
No thought I'd check out 1st against 2nd in division one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 16, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
Anyone go to Gortnamona V Armoy yesterday? What happened? Hearing reports of a mass brawl after the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 16, 2015, 06:33:54 PM
Jaysus lads, that was some show in croker the day. Unreal guts and passion on show. Love it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 16, 2015, 11:42:16 PM
Well my beloved Tipp got beat today by the more hungry and tenacious team, fair dues to the Tribesmen.  I suppose one saving grace though, Tipp are not likely to be humiliated by Kilkenny this year.

As I have frequently alluded to and despite Tipp's red hot favs. tag, Championship is championship.  Another thing of note today dispelling the old cliché,  - goals do not win games!  It would seem persistence in tagging on the points can prove very frustrating for a team to cope with.  Ah well, the Tribesmen they deserved their win in the end.  Unquestionably the best game this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 16, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on August 16, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
Anyone go to Gortnamona V Armoy yesterday? What happened? Hearing reports of a mass brawl after the game?
I heard it started over the sighting of a good looking woman or a good looking sheep, rare commodities in both camps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
Took a spin over tointermediate semis yesterday.

Carey just looked too strong for Sarsfields and would be my tip for the whole thing. Sarsfields missing Niall McKenna who is a big loss for them and a class act. Daniel McKernan just not able to get them going but is a super wee player.

Other semi Cloghmills just scraped through after extra time. A few people stood beside me counting the score had them actually winning at full time but referee messed up scoring (pretty shocking occurence in championship (or any) hurling) and got scoreboard changed. On another note Gareth Magee in nets for Cushendun. You'd have to go a long way to see a better performance than that. Must have made 4/5 super saves. Reckon he is still the best in Antrim - not sure if he would have appetite for county?

Each team left probably fancies their chances - I reckon a Carey v Creggan final.

Caught most of the first half in Croke then raced over. Managed to avoid finding out result and watched recording. Wow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
went to croke yday and was not disappointed in what was on offer. Seen both minor matches and both were great games. The senior match was a cracker. Brilliant atmosphere and game.

One sour note was some supporters inablility to take a beating. Seen two fights around me, all within arm swings of small children. Disgusting people and have no place in a GAA ground. Stay in the pub and dont disgrace yourself and county by coming near a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 17, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 17, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
went to croke yday and was not disappointed in what was on offer. Seen both minor matches and both were great games. The senior match was a cracker. Brilliant atmosphere and game.

One sour note was some supporters inablility to take a beating. Seen two fights around me, all within arm swings of small children. Disgusting people and have no place in a GAA ground. Stay in the pub and dont disgrace yourself and county by coming near a game
You must have been in the cheap seats DR? Dont tend to see such antics in rhe Pemiere level. Disgusting all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
Whats the story with yer man managing Rossa? Spent the game yesterday abusing our linesman and players. On a number of occasions he called our players idiots and worse. He was roaring obscenities at the top of his voice. Glad there weren't many kids at the game to see that. Is there a reason he is on his own on the line with no coach, selector or first aid?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2015, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 17, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 17, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
went to croke yday and was not disappointed in what was on offer. Seen both minor matches and both were great games. The senior match was a cracker. Brilliant atmosphere and game.

One sour note was some supporters inablility to take a beating. Seen two fights around me, all within arm swings of small children. Disgusting people and have no place in a GAA ground. Stay in the pub and dont disgrace yourself and county by coming near a game
You myut have been in the cheap seats DR? Dont tend to see such antics in rhe Pemiere level. Disgusting all the same.

Lol aye Davin lower stand. Pathetic stuff and one started over someone standing up to see a goal chance. Some idiotic people allowed into Croke Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
Quote from: shoebox on August 17, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Glensman on August 17, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
Took a spin over tointermediate semis yesterday.

Carey just looked too strong for Sarsfields and would be my tip for the whole thing. Sarsfields missing Niall McKenna who is a big loss for them and a class act. Daniel McKernan just not able to get them going but is a super wee player.

Other semi Cloghmills just scraped through after extra time. A few people stood beside me counting the score had them actually winning at full time but referee messed up scoring (pretty shocking occurence in championship (or any) hurling) and got scoreboard changed. On another note Gareth Magee in nets for Cushendun. You'd have to go a long way to see a better performance than that. Must have made 4/5 super saves. Reckon he is still the best in Antrim - not sure if he would have appetite for county?

Each team left probably fancies their chances - I reckon a Carey v Creggan final.

Caught most of the first half in Croke then raced over. Managed to avoid finding out result and watched recording. Wow!

So who plays who in the semis now?
Once Glenariffe went out I fancied Cloughmills but Carey seem to be going well now too. If they play eachother in the semi final, then that'll be the final I'd say. Someone tipped Creggan on this a while ago and they are also still in it. Gort wouldn't have the discipline needed I'd say but as a Belfast man it would be nice to see them win it.

Watched the game on TV yesterday. Games like that don't deserve to have a losing team. Great advert for our game.

I think Cmills have to be hot favourites for the intermediate now. They have got to a semi final without getting out of second gear. Carey won't get close to them in the semi. Creggan to beat Gorts in other semi but I believe Cmills will win the cship. They are a well drilled, fit outfit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 17, 2015, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 17, 2015, 12:03:11 PM
I don't think it's as wide open as you think. Cloughmills a good side with good forwards but Cushendun brought them to extra time so well within Carey to beat them (or maybe you're just playing the underdog card 😉). I do fancy Cloughmills but not by much. Think you're probably right about the Creggan v Gorts but then Gorts do have a couple of good forwards too. All the teams are there on merit and fair play to them.

I take it the SHC kicks off this weekend?

No, just an interested neutral. My team knocked out of this years cship already unfortunately. I've watched Carey few times this year and although I think they are a good team, they're not the finished article yet and cmills have a bit more about them if you know what I mean.

Senior cship starts last weekend of the month I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 17, 2015, 12:22:18 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 17, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
Took a spin over tointermediate semis yesterday.

Carey just looked too strong for Sarsfields and would be my tip for the whole thing. Sarsfields missing Niall McKenna who is a big loss for them and a class act. Daniel McKernan just not able to get them going but is a super wee player.

Other semi Cloghmills just scraped through after extra time. A few people stood beside me counting the score had them actually winning at full time but referee messed up scoring (pretty shocking occurence in championship (or any) hurling) and got scoreboard changed. On another note Gareth Magee in nets for Cushendun. You'd have to go a long way to see a better performance than that. Must have made 4/5 super saves. Reckon he is still the best in Antrim - not sure if he would have appetite for county?

Each team left probably fancies their chances - I reckon a Carey v Creggan final.

Caught most of the first half in Croke then raced over. Managed to avoid finding out result and watched recording. Wow!

Cloughmills have beat Carey twice this year already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 17, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Cmills will have to improve a good bit on yesterday's performance if they're to go any further. Although they did beat Cdun twice yesterday as referee got the score wrong at full time! Hard to tell how good Carey played yesterday as sarsfields were poor. From nearly in the senior final last year to not even competing in intermediate and possibly relegation if they don't get their finger out. Winner of gorts v Creggan will fancy their chances as both are going well in league so I'd have either one as favourite if they reach final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 17, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 17, 2015, 12:47:22 PM
Quote from: cfclg on August 17, 2015, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 17, 2015, 12:03:11 PM
I don't think it's as wide open as you think. Cloughmills a good side with good forwards but Cushendun brought them to extra time so well within Carey to beat them (or maybe you're just playing the underdog card ). I do fancy Cloughmills but not by much. Think you're probably right about the Creggan v Gorts but then Gorts do have a couple of good forwards too. All the teams are there on merit and fair play to them.

I take it the SHC kicks off this weekend?

No, just an interested neutral. My team knocked out of this years cship already unfortunately. I've watched Carey few times this year and although I think they are a good team, they're not the finished article yet and cmills have a bit more about them if you know what I mean.

Senior cship starts last weekend of the month I think.

CFCLG? Carey Faugh's CLG?

I hadn't thought of that. Celtic Football Club and my wife's initials!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 17, 2015, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 17, 2015, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 17, 2015, 12:22:18 PM
Cloughmills have beat Carey twice this year already.

But that means nothing.  Using that logic wouldn't have had Cloughmills turn up against Glenariffe.  Championship is different especially in a division where everyone can beat everyone else.

Cloughmills have beat Carey 3 times this year. Twice in the league and also in the semi final of the Feis cup. Cloughmills obvious favourites, although they didn't handle the favourites tag too well yesterday. It should be a tight game anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 17, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
Whats the story with yer man managing Rossa? Spent the game yesterday abusing our linesman and players. On a number of occasions he called our players idiots and worse. He was roaring obscenities at the top of his voice. Glad there weren't many kids at the game to see that. Is there a reason he is on his own on the line with no coach, selector or first aid?

What's this about JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 17, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
Exactly what it says.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 17, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
Exactly what it says.

HS might shed some light on the Rossa sideline?
Was it a contentious game JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 17, 2015, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 17, 2015, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 17, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
Exactly what it says.

HS might shed some light on the Rossa sideline?
Was it a contentious game JJ?

Not at all, just a manager that couldn't zip it for more than 2mins at the time & that thought that the ref should of went to specsavers or vision express. Also questioned the parentage of the ref. maybe he should lay off the pro plus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o

who is the ref and why would that make any difference to a minor game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2015, 09:54:57 AM
If we beat Ballycastle on Fri night it would be a massive result for our minors. Ballycastle would be much stronger overall that we would be. Granted we beat them in the Darragh Cup but this is championship and Ballycastle and St Johns are massive favorites to win both semi finals.

Both are the top teams at this grade so if we were to win it would be some achievement for our lads. Most of our lads are minor next year again so they are going well a year ahead of themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o

who is the ref and why would that make any difference to a minor game?

Ref is Darren McKeown. i fail to see what difference this would have in the outcome of fri nights game?

explain for us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 18, 2015, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o

who is the ref and why would that make any difference to a minor game?

Ref is Darren McKeown. i fail to see what difference this would have in the outcome of fri nights game?

explain for us all.
Is that the wee fella from Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o

who is the ref and why would that make any difference to a minor game?

Ref is Darren McKeown. i fail to see what difference this would have in the outcome of fri nights game?

explain for us all.

It was a joke DR, based on a recent comment about refs commenting on forums.  I'll try harder next time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Darren Mc Keown, not one of the Ballycastle men who referee out of different clubs then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2015, 10:53:09 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 18, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 06:28:36 AM
Shoebox I've seen that Ballycastle minor team on a few occasions and they are seriously impressive. I know Dunloy beat them in The Darragh Cup but the town thumped them a week later in the league.

Aye, but have you seen who the ref is?   :o

who is the ref and why would that make any difference to a minor game?

Ref is Darren McKeown. i fail to see what difference this would have in the outcome of fri nights game?

explain for us all.

It was a joke DR, based on a recent comment about refs commenting on forums.  I'll try harder next time.
;D fair enough, i hadnt a clue what you were on about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: shoebox on August 18, 2015, 10:24:34 AM
Who is looking after both camps? Last I saw Dunloy minors Gary O'Kane and Liam Richmond were on the line. Are they still there? What about the Town?

Malachy Molloy, Paul Molloy and Eddie McCurry are over our minors this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Darren Mc Keown, not one of the Ballycastle men who referee out of different clubs then?

We could maybe do with a couple refereeing out of our own club.  To be fair to the two (I think) you're referring to, I don't think I've ever heard either being accused of pro-Town bias.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 18, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: shoebox on August 18, 2015, 10:24:34 AM
Who is looking after both camps? Last I saw Dunloy minors Gary O'Kane and Liam Richmond were on the line. Are they still there? What about the Town?

Malachy Molloy, Paul Molloy and Eddie McCurry are over our minors this year

Raymond McMullan and Paul Kelly take Ballycastle's minors.  I think Sean McCormick is there too.

Should be a good game.  As Jesus Jones says that Darragh Cup result followed by the league result was a bit odd but should give both teams reasons to be confident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
should be a good game. That defeat to Ballycastle is our only defeat this year in the league.

Funny i rem that match as well, was at the game and we got completly tanked. Ballycastle were shooting from all angles and everything they hit went over. It was an odd game as everything we did went wrong. It was one of them odd games for def.

Fri night should be alot tighter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Darren Mc Keown, not one of the Ballycastle men who referee out of different clubs then?

Seems like a nice fella  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2015, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Darren Mc Keown, not one of the Ballycastle men who referee out of different clubs then?

Seems like a nice fella  ;D

;D seen him the other night there, did a decent job. Cant complain lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 19, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 19, 2015, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 18, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Darren Mc Keown, not one of the Ballycastle men who referee out of different clubs then?

Seems like a nice fella  ;D

;D seen him the other night there, did a decent job. Cant complain lol

Wouldn't normally mention this DR, but there appears to be a wee brown stain on the end of your nose.  ;D
Wasting your time anyway.  Everybody knows that Mr McKeown's integrity is undisputed.   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
He dislike's all clubs  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 19, 2015, 04:21:44 PM
To be fair he's a better ref than he was a hurler.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
He must've been a great hurler then ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 19, 2015, 08:45:02 PM
Enough of the love in lads ffs..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on August 19, 2015, 09:15:24 PM
Ballycastle 3-17 St. John's 1-14 not a bad match . The ref was terrible tam mcgilligan I think 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 19, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
How will that effect the look of the johnnies v cushendall game?
Or for that matter ballycastle in the rossa game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 19, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
How many are relegated from Division 2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on August 19, 2015, 10:02:28 PM
Think St. John's will give cdall a really good game . Good scoring considering we had no Saul and Clarkey .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 19, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 19, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
How many are relegated from Division 2?

4 relegated from div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 20, 2015, 10:06:33 AM
KR telling it like it is, to be fair he isnt wrong and he isnt telling any lies.

Even the u21 club championship within the county is a bit of shambles, but the timing of this competition really shows the priorities of the players and the clubs, with championship a week or so out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 20, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2015/08/20/news/antrim-u21s-will-get-hammered-by-wexford-ryan-234084/

full article on the Irish news website about it don't knwo if there was any more int he paper but hes certainly pissed off, says we don't deserve to be in the competition with the likes of waterford clare and tipp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
well done to KR for telling how it is.

i dont buy all of this that the club championship is on. Kilkenny players are playing in their championships at the moment. They dont wrap players up in cotton wool and hide them away.

We are a joke and hes right, we dont deserve a spot in the semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 20, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Id say this line will be fairly well talked about around the county

"I feel so sorry for those Cushendall lads and a few others I could name. They are so up for this, and they know what they're facing but they're still so willing to do what it takes. They're putting their reputations on the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 20, 2015, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: MoChara on August 20, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Id say this line will be fairly well talked about around the county

"I feel so sorry for those Cushendall lads and a few others I could name. They are so up for this, and they know what they're facing but they're still so willing to do what it takes. They're putting their reputations on the line.
Yeah and them the main reason why the senior team were so poor this year ::)  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 20, 2015, 11:57:52 AM
He says if it was upto me I'd make a massive effort with the under 21s at the start of the year and work the fixtures round it. Well I thought he was the county manager so it was upto him! He should've consulted with the co board about this and ensured the championship was put back/brought forward to suit these games. He's right in most of what he's saying but it's a bit late to be complaining about it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 20, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
Its a collective problem. From the clubs to the CB for the state we are in. Its no one individuals fault.

We will struggle to get a county manager for next season on board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2015, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 20, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
well done to KR for telling how it is.

i dont buy all of this that the club championship is on. Kilkenny players are playing in their championships at the moment. They dont wrap players up in cotton wool and hide them away.

We are a joke and hes right, we dont deserve a spot in the semis.

Don't think that's the case DR ......and regardless .... there's not the same dual player issues ... that exists up here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 20, 2015, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on August 20, 2015, 11:57:52 AM
He says if it was upto me I'd make a massive effort with the under 21s at the start of the year and work the fixtures round it. Well I thought he was the county manager so it was upto him! He should've consulted with the co board about this and ensured the championship was put back/brought forward to suit these games. He's right in most of what he's saying but it's a bit late to be complaining about it now.
20-20 Hindsight is a powerful thing!  Now that he is departing with his carpet bagging is about to cease, it's easy to say such things.  I have to agree, there is no point in him complaining now, but was he ever going to bite the hand that fed him during his tenure by complaining?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 20, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2015, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 20, 2015, 11:20:47 AM
well done to KR for telling how it is.

i dont buy all of this that the club championship is on. Kilkenny players are playing in their championships at the moment. They dont wrap players up in cotton wool and hide them away.

We are a joke and hes right, we dont deserve a spot in the semis.

Don't think that's the case DR ......and regardless .... there's not the same dual player issues ... that exists up here.

Dual players isnt a massive problem in Antrim is it? Sure outside a few obvious examples most strong hurling clubs are junior football. KR was right. TJ Reid in paper this week saying that he cant wait to get stuck into club championship before All-Ireland Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
I'd say an outsider is able to give a more truthful perspective than someone who has to watch what he says so as not to offend too many for speaking what they believe to be the truth.

I agree with him. We don't respect the competition properly so we shouldn't be there at the SF stage. Makes a farce of the competition

I'm sure there's numerous reasons why it falls down the pecking order at this time of year in Antrim. Lets admit that its the case and ask to be left out until such times that we can prepare a team properly for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 20, 2015, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
I'd say an outsider is able to give a more truthful perspective than someone who has to watch what he says so as not to offend too many for speaking what they believe to be the truth.

I agree with him. We don't respect the competition properly so we shouldn't be there at the SF stage. Makes a farce of the competition

I'm sure there's numerous reasons why it falls down the pecking order at this time of year in Antrim. Lets admit that its the case and ask to be left out until such times that we can prepare a team properly for it

Cody has no problem releasing players for club action which undoubtedly impacts upon his ability to have collective training sessions and it doesn't seem to be doing any harm.
What gets me is these managers who think that because the players aren't at their disposal 24/7 then somehow they're doing nothing as Kevin himself alluded to the last time Antrim beat Wexford. He seemed actually aghast that a bunch of hurlers he had trouble getting together for training actually beat a team doing all the things he wanted to do.
Granted he should be able to get them together at least once a week, but if they're playing senior club hurling and getting the odd game together, which they didn't this time round then that needs looked at, but a bit of balance is required from both clubs, county boards and county managers.

Won't be nice in that changing room come Saturday after the manager going public to say you're in for a thumping!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
"What you reap is what you sow"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 20, 2015, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
"What you reap is what you sow"

depends on the seed your working with and quality of your ground to

you started the farming analogies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 20, 2015, 10:37:09 PM
Preparation opportunities for U21 are little different from when we beat Wexford or any other year - it's other circumstances that are different for Ryan.
This is all so transparent - good luck to the team on Saturday and then we can close this sorry chapter with KR. Let's just hope we learn from mistakes for once.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 20, 2015, 11:10:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
"What you reap is what you sow"

Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2015, 11:05:44 AM
"cant have a successful antrim team without our boy aka LW "

;D lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 21, 2015, 12:57:21 PM
"It's not my fault, it's .......... Fault".  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2015, 08:54:52 PM
Minor Championship tonight

Dunloy 4-18 to 2-14 Ballycastle. Chuffed to bits with our lads who played their hearts out. It was never a 10 point game. Nip and tuck all the way but we managed to get the goals at the right time.

Heard Naomh Padraig beat the Johnnies by 4. Not a shock to me. They're a good side who we just scraped past in the Darragh cup round robin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2015, 09:20:57 PM

Correct Skull, Naomh Padraig are a good side and will be tough opposition in the final. Think the Dunloy v Ballycastle game looked over by the 50th minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2015, 03:37:01 PM
Good luck to the u21s today. Even those poor Cushendall players.  ;)

Coverage on TG4 AT 3.50.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on August 22, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
News has filtered through that the "whole world revolves around me brothers" didnt make the journey with their under seige teammates today to thurles. no surprise there then. so that now adds an all ireland semi final to the senior ulster final that they have gone awol. then it was one got 2 yellow cards against carlow & was suspended (wink wink) then on the week of the final the other one became conveiniently unavailable. today they seemingly just couldnt be bothered. unfortunately this is a depressingly predictable move on their behalf. so just a word to everyone watching the lambs being slaughtered today: dont be too quick to judge the lads who did turn up obviously aware of what awaits them at wexfords hands. spare a thought for the gutless,spineless duo who just didnt bother & when giving your own post mortem, pause a moment and ask how you would feel letting your team mates & county down. my only hope is that habits die hard & they carry the same self promoting attitude into next weeks game.really makes me question the integrity of  not just both of them but also of the person/persons
advising them or giving them consul. county manager material indeed?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: auld stock on August 22, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
News has filtered through that the "whole world revolves around me brothers" didnt make the journey with their under seige teammates today to thurles. no surprise there then. so that now adds an all ireland semi final to the senior ulster final that they have gone awol. then it was one got 2 yellow cards against carlow & was suspended (wink wink) then on the week of the final the other one became conveiniently unavailable. today they seemingly just couldnt be bothered. unfortunately this is a depressingly predictable move on their behalf. so just a word to everyone watching the lambs being slaughtered today: dont be too quick to judge the lads who did turn up obviously aware of what awaits them at wexfords hands. spare a thought for the gutless,spineless duo who just didnt bother & when giving your own post mortem, pause a moment and ask how you would feel letting your team mates & county down. my only hope is that habits die hard & they carry the same self promoting attitude into next weeks game.really makes me question the integrity of  not just both of them but also of the person/persons
advising them or giving them consul. county manager material indeed?????

Seems to be a trait the club are following also,  it they are not certain winners then dont field,  surely their own club has to see through them and this attitude that surrounds the whole place at the moment. Something not right with the club in general.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 22, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: auld stock on August 22, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
News has filtered through that the "whole world revolves around me brothers" didnt make the journey with their under seige teammates today to thurles. no surprise there then. so that now adds an all ireland semi final to the senior ulster final that they have gone awol. then it was one got 2 yellow cards against carlow & was suspended (wink wink) then on the week of the final the other one became conveiniently unavailable. today they seemingly just couldnt be bothered. unfortunately this is a depressingly predictable move on their behalf. so just a word to everyone watching the lambs being slaughtered today: dont be too quick to judge the lads who did turn up obviously aware of what awaits them at wexfords hands. spare a thought for the gutless,spineless duo who just didnt bother & when giving your own post mortem, pause a moment and ask how you would feel letting your team mates & county down. my only hope is that habits die hard & they carry the same self promoting attitude into next weeks game.really makes me question the integrity of  not just both of them but also of the person/persons
advising them or giving them consul. county manager material indeed?????

Seems to be a trait the club are following also,  it they are not certain winners then dont field,  surely their own club has to see through them and this attitude that surrounds the whole place at the moment. Something not right with the club in general.

What club are you talking about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
I think auldstock has kept it cryptic enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:00:13 PM
Im going to say the Johnnies  ;D

They have played well first half but starting to slip now :(

Busy time of year for clubs... Not defending them but both playing football championship club football and hurling championship coming up..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:01:12 PM
Not surprised they don't want to play after Ryan's interview. Thought a few more would have told him to stick it.

To be fair they are not playing for KR they are supposed to be playing for their county. Dont think there is any defence,  the pattern is there for all to see they dont like it when things are against them so they bail out.

You telling me if Antrim were in with a shout today that they wouldnt be out there front and centre?

Credit to the boys that are there and working really hard for each other.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:10:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:02:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:00:13 PM
Im going to say the Johnnies  ;D

They have played well first half but starting to slip now :(

Busy time of year for clubs... Not defending them but both playing football championship club football and hurling championship coming up..
They're out of the football??

Course they are out, Lamhs beat them, but preparing for two championships (something lost on you) takes a wile lot of energy... Again in not defending them... If you are part of a panel you see it through to its conclusion..

Anyways good effort so far.. Dall lads hurling well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 22, 2015, 05:11:44 PM
Ryan McCambridge is a quality player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
I don't think the club football championship has anything to do with their reason for jacking.

Maybe not but these things take a toll on you... I think our Dall posters are looking to create a bitta bite for next week... As I'm not officiating I can say Cushendall will stuff them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 22, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
I don't think the club football championship has anything to do with their reason for jacking.
They are a pair of arseholes..thats the main reason
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:23:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
I don't think the club football championship has anything to do with their reason for jacking.

Maybe not but these things take a toll on you... I think our Dall posters are looking to create a bitta bite for next week... As I'm not officiating I can say Cushendall will stuff them
I actually fancy the Johnnies.

Nope, they haven't got a strong panel and their best 15 would beat Cushenall  1 in ten games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 05:25:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 22, 2015, 05:12:52 PM
I don't think the club football championship has anything to do with their reason for jacking.

Maybe not but these things take a toll on you... I think our Dall posters are looking to create a bitta bite for next week... As I'm not officiating I can say Cushendall will stuff them
I actually fancy the Johnnies.

I will have what ever you are drinking HS  ;)

Dont think anyone needs to create an edge for that game it is championship and what the whole year is about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 22, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 04:06:21 PM
Quote from: auld stock on August 22, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
News has filtered through that the "whole world revolves around me brothers" didnt make the journey with their under seige teammates today to thurles. no surprise there then. so that now adds an all ireland semi final to the senior ulster final that they have gone awol. then it was one got 2 yellow cards against carlow & was suspended (wink wink) then on the week of the final the other one became conveiniently unavailable. today they seemingly just couldnt be bothered. unfortunately this is a depressingly predictable move on their behalf. so just a word to everyone watching the lambs being slaughtered today: dont be too quick to judge the lads who did turn up obviously aware of what awaits them at wexfords hands. spare a thought for the gutless,spineless duo who just didnt bother & when giving your own post mortem, pause a moment and ask how you would feel letting your team mates & county down. my only hope is that habits die hard & they carry the same self promoting attitude into next weeks game.really makes me question the integrity of  not just both of them but also of the person/persons
advising them or giving them consul. county manager material indeed?????

Seems to be a trait the club are following also,  it they are not certain winners then dont field,  surely their own club has to see through them and this attitude that surrounds the whole place at the moment. Something not right with the club in general.

What club are you talking about?

Same club who's integrity was brought into question recently. And time and time again unfortunately.
Call it a trait or habitual or part and parcel - but I'm afraid it's not the first or last time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 22, 2015, 05:50:50 PM
I've worked it out now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2015, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 22, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
Just what we need, more controversy and division... well done getevennotcross... sorry auld stock.

For the record in case anyone thinks I'm defending them, I think they should have went but judge the lads on their own decisions and stop trying to get a dig at their father.

They chose not to play for their county in an all-Ireland semi final.
Yes judge them on that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2015, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 22, 2015, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 22, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
Just what we need, more controversy and division... well done getevennotcross... sorry auld stock.

For the record in case anyone thinks I'm defending them, I think they should have went but judge the lads on their own decisions and stop trying to get a dig at their father.

They ; chose not to play for their county in an all-Ireland semi final.
Yes judge them on that.

One of the few things I have agreed with you on  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 22, 2015, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 22, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
Just what we need, more controversy and division... well done getevennotcross... sorry auld stock.

For the record in case anyone thinks I'm defending them, I think they should have went but judge the lads on their own decisions and stop trying to get a dig at their father.
Well done - for what?  You don't warm to or appreciate my candid talking I presume?

You really couldn't blame some of the lads for not travelling today just to fulfil a fixture, especially after the managers defeatist outburst during the week.  KR's heart wasn't in it, how can he expect the players to be motivated with such outbursts?  Well, he's gone now thankfully, the false dawn is over, time to sit back and lick our wounds.  Certainly not a time for recrimination, lets face it we are where we deserve to be.  An underlying thought though, will KR be mentoring/patrolling the Cushendall sideline during championship? Another few euro to be had maybe? He must be a shoe in for an Honorary Cushendall membership!

For those bidding for the Managers job remember, in order to avoid criticism, 'say nothing, do nothing and be nothing' (Aristotle)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2015, 10:58:11 PM
Interesting that the wexford captain said that they didn't have a get together for 6 weeks until last weekend. No Backstabbing on the back of a cash cow there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 22, 2015, 11:27:17 PM
thought they played ok today for lads that didn't train much
wexford have not played a match in 6 weeks but i would say they have training a lot

all the dall players where impressive and the full back didn't look out of his depth

a ten point margin certainly isnt a hiding by Antrim standards but they where playing a sweeper and forced wexford to shoot far out



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Div 1 games today and Wednesday also... Championship at the weekend?? Seems a lot of games .... I'd say some teams will be resting up on Wednesday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
On Yesterday's match I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the score line, and effort of the Of the lads. Wexford where very wasteful but we kept plugging away and although living on scraps did quite well. Christys Goal should have stood which would have helped. A few of the lads where very good, Gerard Walsh, Ryan, Sual tried hard, and Campbell scored 2 great points,  Maol wasn't bad either.
Considering KRs nonsense it was a good effort, if slightly defensive for my liking.
CB wished or grew a set, the 2 arseholes could be suspended for not making themselves available for Yesterday's match, the rules are in place to deal with them. Also from the u21 team that won the championship, they had one player on the panel, fair play to him. Hopefully they'll be well rested for next Sunday's championship, while all the other lads will be playing today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Div 1 games today and Wednesday also... Championship at the weekend?? Seems a lot of games .... I'd say some teams will be resting up on Wednesday night

Some interesting Games too. Can Portaferry give Cushendal a competitive tussle? Carey seriously need points to get away from the bottom 4. Although if they can't beat St. Paul's then maybe they belong there. How close will Rossa get to Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 10:41:01 AM
Quote from: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
On Yesterday's match I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the score line, and effort of the Of the lads. Wexford where very wasteful but we kept plugging away and although living on scraps did quite well. Christys Goal should have stood which would have helped. A few of the lads where very good, Gerard Walsh, Ryan, Sual tried hard, and Campbell scored 2 great points,  Maol wasn't bad either.
Considering KRs nonsense it was a good effort, if slightly defensive for my liking.
CB wished or grew a set, the 2 arseholes could be suspended for not making themselves available for Yesterday's match, the rules are in place to deal with them. Also from the u21 team that won the championship, they had one player on the panel, fair play to him. Hopefully they'll be well rested for next Sunday's championship, while all the other lads will be playing today.

I know which game I'm going to next week !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
Could people post on here today any local games cancelled due to weather. It will make it easier to decide which fixture to go to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
On Yesterday's match I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the score line, and effort of the Of the lads. Wexford where very wasteful but we kept plugging away and although living on scraps did quite well. Christys Goal should have stood which would have helped. A few of the lads where very good, Gerard Walsh, Ryan, Sual tried hard, and Campbell scored 2 great points,  Maol wasn't bad either.
Considering KRs nonsense it was a good effort, if slightly defensive for my liking.
CB wished or grew a set, the 2 arseholes could be suspended for not making themselves available for Yesterday's match, the rules are in place to deal with them. Also from the u21 team that won the championship, they had one player on the panel, fair play to him. Hopefully they'll be well rested for next Sunday's championship, while all the other lads will be playing today.
Obviously a Dall man or you just dont like St. Johns?  The 2 Arsholes suspended, are you having a laugh, the county capitualed, the manager capitulated so the two young cubs were presented with a gift option. Do you know the curcumstances as to why they did not travel? Just button it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 12:52:06 PM

Obviously a Dall man or you just dont like St. Johns?  The 2 Arsholes suspended, are you having a laugh, the county capitualed, the manager capitulated so the two young cubs were presented with a gift option. Do you know the curcumstances as to why they did not travel? Just button it.

No shit Sherlock!!  There are sanctions in place to deal with Clubs/Players in these circumstances, and because they aren't enforced has/ is causing the open door policy that is embarrassing our County and holding us back, where players pick and choose when they turn up. Unless they had a death in the family they should have been there!! How many occasions this year alone has this happened with one or other or both of these this year alone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 12:52:06 PM

Obviously a Dall man or you just dont like St. Johns?  The 2 Arsholes suspended, are you having a laugh, the county capitualed, the manager capitulated so the two young cubs were presented with a gift option. Do you know the curcumstances as to why they did not travel? Just button it.

No shit Sherlock!!  There are sanctions in place to deal with Clubs/Players in these circumstances, and because they aren't enforced has/ is causing the open door policy that is embarrassing our County and holding us back, where players pick and choose when they turn up. Unless they had a death in the family they should have been there!! How many occasions this year alone has this happened with one or other or both of these this year alone?
They are only cubs and amatuers and open to influence. They are not beholding to you or anyone like you, so catch a grip.  Maybe its St. Johns looking for an edge next week, given all them Dall men are so forthright, loyal and ccommitted to the county. Dall have also a lot to answer for if you ask me.  'Let those without sin springs to mind'. Also, do you honestly think the incumbent CB have the moral fabric or wherewithall to sanction any player who did not wish to turn out for the county regardless of  the circumstances, I ask you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2015, 01:12:12 PM
The Dunloy Rossa match is now in Belfast @3:30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 01:21:26 PM
Ok I can't wait for this answer, Go on ahead tell me which Cushendall players haven't turned out for the County? And let's get it straight our lads play for the County because it's their County, not Jim Murrays, or Kevin Ryan!! But they are proud Antrim men, enjoy it, and want to TRY and better themselves be as best they can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 01:25:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 23, 2015, 01:12:12 PM
The Dunloy Rossa match is now in Belfast @3:30

Cheers Skull... Your pitch struggles at times to hold the rain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 01:21:26 PM
Ok I can't wait for this answer, Go on ahead tell me which Cushendall players haven't turned out for the County? And let's get it straight our lads play for the County because it's their County, not Jim Murrays, or Kevin Ryan!! But they are proud Antrim men, enjoy it, and want to TRY and better themselves be as best they can.
Aaaahhhh. I thought it was Cushendalls and KR's county.  Got it all covered now, whilst I am not sure we will keep the expenses curtailed; appoint Sambo (FQ/HQ on the line of course) and have the Dall represent the county at inter-county level, all our problems solved then, SIMPLES!  (A winning, committed team who just love their county, absolute complete and utter bollocks.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
So we provide more players for the county than anyone else, something we have been doing consistently for many years and we have questions to answer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
So we provide more players for the county than anyone else, something we have been doing consistently for many years and we have questions to answer?
Yeah, send some good ones, the current crop are not having the desired effect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 05:52:14 PM
Ffs  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Did you get to the rossa match skull?
How do you see them against ballycastle?

No league game for the johnnies today before the cushendall match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 06:12:50 PM
What a clown!! I asked what we had to answer for and you reply with pure drivel. Get back to the topic, Send some good ones, have you players better than Graffin, Shane, Neill at Ryan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
I did. Apart from us getting the goals in the second half and them being noisier than us  :) there wasn't much between the teams. Was a decent enough game. Rossa moved the ball well on their short puck outs and Armstrong and Beattie are decent targets up the middle in their forward line. We attacked them well in the second half and got well rewarded for it getting the 3 goals.

Haven't seen the town since they've changed their management so I'd only be guessing how well they'll get on but I reckon Ballycastle will be too pacy up front for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Did you get to the rossa match skull?
How do you see them against ballycastle?

No league game for the johnnies today before the cushendall match?

We played the Johnnies today without the mcgourtys Karl Stewart and couple other players... Was level with 3 minutes to go... We missed a right few frees too... Johnnies at full strength also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Did you get to the rossa match skull?
How do you see them against ballycastle?

No league game for the johnnies today before the cushendall match?

We played the Johnnies today without the mcgourtys Karl Stewart and couple other players... Was level with 3 minutes to go... We missed a right few frees too... Johnnies at full strength also

Thanks MR2 - no chance of a Johnnies shock then? No surprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Did you get to the rossa match skull?
How do you see them against ballycastle?

No league game for the johnnies today before the cushendall match?

We played the Johnnies today without the mcgourtys Karl Stewart and couple other players... Was level with 3 minutes to go... We missed a right few frees too... Johnnies at full strength also

Thanks MR2 - no chance of a Johnnies shock then? No surprise.

Not based on that performance but leagues are for playing championship is for winning... Hopefully good games next weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 23, 2015, 06:12:50 PM
What a clown!! I asked what we had to answer for and you reply with pure drivel. Get back to the topic, Send some good ones, have you players better than Graffin, Shane, Neill at Ryan?
My emphasis here was the desired effect and outcomes of the players the Dall send, keep your Mighty one, the who thinks hes the Mighty one, the son of who once thought he was the great one( best hurler from Antrim - aye the bald one)  and those aspiring to be another great one!  The Dall are full of manipulative wawannabes. Thats why they will never ascend outside of Ulster. Got to be the most disliked hurling club in Antrim I'd say? The same way Rasharkin are in Foitball!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
Neil, Shane, Ryan, Paddy and Christy should all be in the county squad. Anyone with a modicum of sense can see that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 09:04:58 PM
SIE you wouldn't have Graffin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
Wouldn't have any of them about me. Not questioning their hurling prowess or ability, just the negative crap, bitchiness and failure to contribute to the cohesive team cause and greater collective. This is where the Dall men fail miserably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 23, 2015, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 09:04:58 PM
SIE you wouldn't have Graffin?
Not with his current gammy knee jj. When fully fit, one of the first names on the team sheet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 23, 2015, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
Wouldn't have any of them about me. Not questioning their hurling prowess or ability, just the negative crap, bitchiness and failure to contribute to the cohesive team cause and greater collective. This is where the Dall men fail miserably.

IRONY!
No irony sat all Shoebox. Just an opinion of mine which clearly differs from yours which is OK really.  Well at least I have the temerity to be candid about this. Dont knock honesty and openness, if we had some more of it all our fortunes may improve?  I've had the misfortune of working with and being friendly with those who are full of deceit, deviousness, underhandedness and dishonesty.  This is the very essence and raison deitre our county is on such a mess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 10:17:39 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 23, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
You don't see the irony of being a negative wizard with your whole 'mighty one, bald one' stuff and then criticising them for being negative?

You're a f**king geg
See  your taking things personal and getting personal to boot. Cest la vie.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Armoy v Sars drew 23 apiece today. Sars have had a forgettable season. Cushendal v Portaferry was tight too. St. Pauls couldn't field at senior hurling today. Sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Armoy v Sars drew 23 apiece today. Sars have had a forgettable season. Cushendal v Portaferry was tight too. St. Pauls couldn't field at senior hurling today. Sad state of affairs.

Indeed although not altogether surprising.
For many of the games city teams in all leagues (possibly bar St. John's) are just about fielding or have just one/two subs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 23, 2015, 10:50:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2015, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
Armoy v Sars drew 23 apiece today. Sars have had a forgettable season. Cushendal v Portaferry was tight too. St. Pauls couldn't field at senior hurling today. Sad state of affairs.

Indeed although not altogether surprising.
For many of the games city teams in all leagues (possibly bar St. John's) are just about fielding or have just one/two subs.

We only had 15 today up against Gorts, it's always been the case when teams are out of the championship, it's just about fulfilling league fixtures. Especially with no promotion out of Div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 10:55:51 PM
St. Pauls will play in division 3 next year. Sad to see it. They were once a vibrant club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 23, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
How did your game go Minder? Cant see any result on the website. Woth no promotion I suppose the chsmpionship was the main target for you.

Pity about St Paul's indeed. All their talent have emigrated when they needed them over the load of years (the O Carrolans spring to mind). Last I saw them they were a very old team.

With thennew 8 team leagues set for next year, how is relegation/promotion due to work?

4 down from division 2 ........nasty stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 23, 2015, 11:07:49 PM
Oisins won by 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2015, 11:13:34 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 23, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
How did your game go Minder? Cant see any result on the website. Woth no promotion I suppose the chsmpionship was the main target for you.

Pity about St Paul's indeed. All their talent have emigrated when they needed them over the load of years (the O Carrolans spring to mind). Last I saw them they were a very old team.

With thennew 8 team leagues set for next year, how is relegation/promotion due to work?

Phone not working so cant upload score of gorts game... Very end of season attitude game...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 24, 2015, 09:18:59 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
So we provide more players for the county than anyone else, something we have been doing consistently for many years and we have questions to answer?
Yeah, send some good ones, the current crop are not having the desired effect.

i don't know why people even respond to people like this. 

Haven't been on here the last few days and these latest posts really made me laugh.

Good job any sensible minded person doesn't take the likes of him serious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 24, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
For what it's worth, my predictions for this week:

Tuesday
Loughgiel Reserves to beat Portaferry by 5+

Saturday
Ballycastle to beat Rossa by 6+
Loughgiel to beat St Galls by 15+

Sunday
Carey by the minimum
Creggan to beat Gorts with a few to spare
Dunloy to beat Clooney by 15+
Cushendall to beat St Johns by 8+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
If antrim had of went 15v15 they would of been hammered off the pitch. KR knew that and tried to strangle wexfords movement in the forwards thus forcing them to shoot from distance all the time.

What other choice did he have?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 24, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Been reading this all last week. Geteven your still a fool.  As for the U21s.  Fair play to the lads that showed up. They tried there best and reading the papers the week before. It wasn't a game I'd say many were looking forward to.  So I tip the hat to the lads that showed up.    See on the social network a young lad being proud of the result. "Better than last year". Maybe not to much between the ears.  Still the same result young fella  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: wino on August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!

Did you see the result this year against yas? 8-26 or something!!! Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but ffs!!!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 24, 2015, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 23, 2015, 11:06:08 PM
Sorry I know that and it is indeed nasty stuff but I'm on about next year.

With the 4 going down from Division 2 it means there will be two teams going to Div 3 who will be much too strong for it. Looking like Sarsfields and one of Carey or Armoy.
Sure maybe the top table will take pity on them next year and rejig the leagues again!! Thats life in the lower leagues. They knew as we all did that this was in the post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
If you enter a competition to play damage limitations like Antrim played, you're playing at the wrong level...i.e. we shouldn't have been there if we didn't think we could make a decent game of it. Our development structure seem to go completely AWOL between 17 and 21.

The reasons to want to be a top county hurler are harder to find in Antrim than in the heartlands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 24, 2015, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
If you enter a competition to play damage limitations like Antrim played, you're playing at the wrong level...i.e. we shouldn't have been there if we didn't think we could make a decent game of it. Our development structure seem to go completely AWOL between 17 and 21.

The reasons to want to be a top county hurler are harder to find in Antrim than in the heartlands.

Too true.

Also, t's only fixture congestion that has croke park maintaining the current U21 structure which allows us to play in the semi final stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: wino on August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!

Did you see the result this year against yas? 8-26 or something!!! Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but ffs!!!  ;D
Aye. Yas had a gather up that evening mr2. No mcgourtys or Stewart playing. Yous will get the respect you deserve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
If you enter a competition to play damage limitations like Antrim played, you're playing at the wrong level...i.e. we shouldn't have been there if we didn't think we could make a decent game of it. Our development structure seem to go completely AWOL between 17 and 21.

The reasons to want to be a top county hurler are harder to find in Antrim than in the heartlands.

Whether we should or should not be there is for another discussion... We (Antrim under21's) had a choice do you play damage limitations or do you get spanked right out da gate and get even more shit publicity?

Some teams move up a league and its a tough lesson, the gap between the big teams and smaller team's is big.. You cant always go out and play it the way the purists want it, its counter productive for a team to get hammered every game... They get relegated and might not get up for many years. They could be a small club that hurling isn't their main code at the club, but if you can string along good performances and nip a win or two it certainly gives the lads confidence... I know a lot of people aren't for that but needs must at times..

Again fair play to the lads that give it their all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on August 25, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
New County Chairman race hots up at last,  see the county money men backing allegedly J Donnelly St Johns, wee J may struggle with that one, X chosen one Ray M also throwing his whistle in the ring, now all we need is a new County secretary and job done, what ya say GETEVEN?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on August 25, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 25, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
New County Chairman race hots up at last,  see the county money men backing allegedly J Donnelly St Johns, wee J may struggle with that one, X chosen one Ray M also throwing his whistle in the ring, now all we need is a new County secretary and job done, what ya say GETEVEN?

WRONG - should that not be Garrett Duffy?????? Heard a few months back he was campaigning for vice chair against another ex ref Terry Reilly. Also heard Jackie Kelly would be running
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 25, 2015, 09:20:10 AM
What constitutes real hurling? if your more defensive minded is it a crime? I think finding a way to beat or limit damage against a team perceived to be much better is as much part of the game as sending out a 15 on 15 scenario, as is taking points from distance as opposed to working the ball into the corner and shooting from inside the scoring zone. Hurling has rules regarding conduct and Contact but not how you line out after the ball is threw in, that is up to the team and its manager and how they can plot their progression. to the hurling purists on this board who feel that this shouldn't be part of the game I think your snobbery would be severely tested when faced with the circumstances that faced an under power Antrim team on Saturday. if Dunloy, Shams, Dall or heaven forbid Jonnies were to make St Paddys day final and faced Ballyhale would it then become ok to drop a man or two back during periods of the game to limit space around TJ, Sheff, Fennellys and Cha, I for one who loves to see open hurling wouldn't want to see my team leave too much space around those boys to exploit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on August 25, 2015, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on August 25, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
New County Chairman race hots up at last,  see the county money men backing allegedly J Donnelly St Johns, wee J may struggle with that one, X chosen one Ray M also throwing his whistle in the ring, now all we need is a new County secretary and job done, what ya say GETEVEN?

Still 3 months until county convention mibag, so along time yet until race hots up as u say!!
i wudnt have ray m or duffy near county exec as they r a pair together who going on past performances like to make things up & lay it on thick!

sure duffy openly criticised the one committee he was involved with & jumped ship instead of sticking around & making things happen and change them for the better as he seen it. is this really someone we want on county board in any position, when it is all about ones ego.
same for ray m, he started up a new association for officials, does it still exist???

hardly county chair material from either of them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
Garrett Duffy. Ray Matthews.
Is that for real?
What clubs are the even involved with now let alone who would support them?

I think I will stick with shoebox and look at the hurling for my own sanity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 25, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 25, 2015, 09:20:10 AM
What constitutes real hurling? if your more defensive minded is it a crime? I think finding a way to beat or limit damage against a team perceived to be much better is as much part of the game as sending out a 15 on 15 scenario, as is taking points from distance as opposed to working the ball into the corner and shooting from inside the scoring zone. Hurling has rules regarding conduct and Contact but not how you line out after the ball is threw in, that is up to the team and its manager and how they can plot their progression. to the hurling purists on this board who feel that this shouldn't be part of the game I think your snobbery would be severely tested when faced with the circumstances that faced an under power Antrim team on Saturday. if Dunloy, Shams, Dall or heaven forbid Jonnies were to make St Paddys day final and faced Ballyhale would it then become ok to drop a man or two back during periods of the game to limit space around TJ, Sheff, Fennellys and Cha, I for one who loves to see open hurling wouldn't want to see my team leave too much space around those boys to exploit.

Loughgiel or anyone else shouldn't and wouldn't be going down south to play in an All Ireland final to limit damage. They'd be going down with a plan to limit the threat yes but with an attacking plan aimed at beating the opposition. If all you're interested in is limiting damage with no obvious interest in offering the right amount of attacking threat, you given up before the ball's thrown in. That didn't sit well with me. Id rather they gave the forwards the opportunity to take Wexford on a bit even if it meant a higher score line. They might have benefited more in the long run from giving it a go. Not saying they shouldn't have had A defensive plan to suffocate space but by being uber defensive the took away any real threat up front and looked happy to just keep it away from a pasting. The backs would have had a harder day at the office sure! with less men back there, but is that not an opportunity to learn and at least get that from the game? I fail to see what positives Antrim can take from that game on Saturday? Its was a different type of humiliation than a hammering, but it was humiliation none the less in my eyes. Each to their own. Nothing to do with hurling snobbery, just a different perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 25, 2015, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: wino on August 24, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2015, 11:07:46 AM
It was probably the most negative game I have ever seen, it wasn't a great spectacle

http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.the42.ie/jj-doyle-wexford-antrim-2-2288646-Aug2015/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Not much to disagree with. Damage limitations maybe saves reputations but makes for poor fare.

Dont think KR had much choice other than to go ultra defensive.

It's not pretty but in some cases it's all you've got, losing by 30 points and playing the open 15 on 15 won't win you any admirers.... It gives the southerners the usual sound bite, "aye the have it hard up there and keep it going" fecking crap....

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses, that's what happened at the weekend, left with no option but to take defeat but at least be competitive, 5 points down in first half was a good showing he's only gurning cause he didn't know how to beat that system...

We are playing Loughgiel on Sunday, if I were manager (again) I'd be playing a sweeper system, 4 half backs, but would still need two quality forwards with pace to win wide balls that would hopefully be placed by the spare man... now you can't always win these games but if you stay close enough and tag on frees and nick a goal then anything can happen, am I defensive? yes but only against certain teams, horses for courses

MR2, that's a real defensive solution. If you turn up on sunday you'll definitely be beaten!

Did you see the result this year against yas? 8-26 or something!!! Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but ffs!!!  ;D
Aye. Yas had a gather up that evening mr2. No mcgourtys or Stewart playing. Yous will get the respect you deserve.
Mr2 the defensive solution I was talking about is the match is on Saturday not sunday'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)

Was it a draw? Some result if that was the case.  Antrim SHC should be a breeze ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)

Was it a draw? Some result if that was the case.  Antrim SHC should be a breeze ...
it finished a draw. importantly neilly, winker and Benny got game time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2015, 02:15:02 PM
championship favs for def now after that result and them 3 playing. :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 03:33:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2015, 02:15:02 PM
championship favs for def now after that result and them 3 playing. :D
the dall are the team to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 25, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)

Was it a draw? Some result if that was the case.  Antrim SHC should be a breeze ...
it finished a draw. importantly neilly, winker and Benny got game time.

Where did Neily get game time? Surely not full back as Tony has been immense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 25, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)

Was it a draw? Some result if that was the case.  Antrim SHC should be a breeze ...
it finished a draw. importantly neilly, winker and Benny got game time.

Where did Neily get game time? Surely not full back as Tony has been immense.
I suppose we'll find out at the weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 25, 2015, 05:20:36 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 25, 2015, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 25, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 25, 2015, 12:58:19 PM
Did Loughgiel play a sweeper on Sat/Sun past against Henry and the boys SIE?  :)
I couldn't tell you.  ;)

Was it a draw? Some result if that was the case.  Antrim SHC should be a breeze ...
it finished a draw. importantly neilly, winker and Benny got game time.

Where did Neily get game time? Surely not full back as Tony has been immense.
corner forward.  Scored 3:05 of his left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 25, 2015, 06:59:03 PM
Sharing someone got game time on the world wide Web then acting discreet about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Great info.... That should make the difference this Saturday... Tut tut guys... I wonder who'll we get in the semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 25, 2015, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Great info.... That should make the difference this Saturday... Tut tut guys... I wonder who'll we get in the semi's

I think that draw was your karma for last year MR2!

Anyone want to declare their hand with predictions for the games?
I'm going to corrigan myself - looking forward to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2015, 09:01:20 PM
I'm in Dublin for a works do on Friday and staying over but hoped to get back for the games.... Wonder will wife allow me to be completely in the sauce Friday and watch games Saturday and Sunday! Be grand  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 25, 2015, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 24, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Been reading this all last week. Geteven your still a fool.  As for the U21s.  Fair play to the lads that showed up. They tried there best and reading the papers the week before. It wasn't a game I'd say many were looking forward to.  So I tip the hat to the lads that showed up.    See on the social network a young lad being proud of the result. "Better than last year". Maybe not to much between the ears.  Still the same result young fella  :o
Takes a wise man to play the fool SG, believe me.  You shouldn't get caught up in impetious and reactionary respones to comments made here, just a bit of fun and banter, but some feel the need to take matters to extremes.  Some think they are world changers, game changers, but if truth be known they are in dire need of a nappy change.

With my liberal views on matters, I wouldn't take all you read or hear on here too seriously, on the contrary SG I'd be more inclined to take such things with a pinch of salt.  Having said that of course, you do have some of the more renowned disreptuable, devious, manipualtive, self serving shysters who engage in such rantings purely as a result of fuelling their self belief in their own importance.  I must say I have never subscribed such things. I'm a firm believer we will all be judged and remembered on the good we do for others, and not which we do for ourselves and unquenchable egos.

Why does Antrim  evidently appear to have more of the Ego trippers, wannabees and spineless wasters more than most other counties? Now there is a topic for considerable debate! 

Must get back to work, serious coin to be made working at night overseas.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 25, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 25, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on August 25, 2015, 09:20:10 AM
What constitutes real hurling? if your more defensive minded is it a crime? I think finding a way to beat or limit damage against a team perceived to be much better is as much part of the game as sending out a 15 on 15 scenario, as is taking points from distance as opposed to working the ball into the corner and shooting from inside the scoring zone. Hurling has rules regarding conduct and Contact but not how you line out after the ball is threw in, that is up to the team and its manager and how they can plot their progression. to the hurling purists on this board who feel that this shouldn't be part of the game I think your snobbery would be severely tested when faced with the circumstances that faced an under power Antrim team on Saturday. if Dunloy, Shams, Dall or heaven forbid Jonnies were to make St Paddys day final and faced Ballyhale would it then become ok to drop a man or two back during periods of the game to limit space around TJ, Sheff, Fennellys and Cha, I for one who loves to see open hurling wouldn't want to see my team leave too much space around those boys to exploit.

Loughgiel or anyone else shouldn't and wouldn't be going down south to play in an All Ireland final to limit damage. They'd be going down with a plan to limit the threat yes but with an attacking plan aimed at beating the opposition. If all you're interested in is limiting damage with no obvious interest in offering the right amount of attacking threat, you given up before the ball's thrown in. That didn't sit well with me. Id rather they gave the forwards the opportunity to take Wexford on a bit even if it meant a higher score line. They might have benefited more in the long run from giving it a go. Not saying they shouldn't have had A defensive plan to suffocate space but by being uber defensive the took away any real threat up front and looked happy to just keep it away from a pasting. The backs would have had a harder day at the office sure! with less men back there, but is that not an opportunity to learn and at least get that from the game? I fail to see what positives Antrim can take from that game on Saturday? Its was a different type of humiliation than a hammering, but it was humiliation none the less in my eyes. Each to their own. Nothing to do with hurling snobbery, just a different perspective.
I have to whole heartedly agree with you (theskull1) the very essence of our game is to attack. With or without the Johnstons, it would have been good for some of the more capable young cubs to go out and express theselves with unshackled belief and drive to make a valid positive impression, despite the result. 

I'm a firm believer in: if you attack and shoot you score, if you attack, shoot and score you increase your capacity to win.

If you defend: your not shooting , if your not shooting your not scoring, if your not shooting your not even hitting wides.  At least if your attacking, shooting, scoring and even hitting wides, on greater scale of things you are potentially going to score more than the defensive strategy. 

Half backs stop the ball, feed inside and 3/4s forwards, high return rate on scores.  Defensive play:  keeper, full backs and half backs clear their lines,  wheres Sahanan, Gleason, DeBurca???  Surrounded, swamped  by opposing defence.  Galway on the otherhand kept tagging on the points with frequent and persistent attacking.  Where does the CB want me to sign??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 26, 2015, 09:41:47 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 12+
Loughgiel by anything they want 25+
Dunloy by 15+
Rossa to narrowly beat Ballycastle (may be controversial but it will happen!)

IHC - Carey to beat Cloughmills (lot of people think this will be the other way around - I disagree) and Creggan to beat Gorts
JHC - St Teresas & Rasharkin (least confident of my selections as I know very little about this level)

Any thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 26, 2015, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 26, 2015, 09:41:47 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 12+
Loughgiel by anything they want 25+
Dunloy by 15+
Rossa to narrowly beat Ballycastle (may be controversial but it will happen!)

IHC - Carey to beat Cloughmills (lot of people think this will be the other way around - I disagree) and Creggan to beat Gorts
JHC - St Teresas & Rasharkin (least confident of my selections as I know very little about this level)

Any thoughts anyone?

Rossa won't beat Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 26, 2015, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 26, 2015, 09:41:47 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 12+
Loughgiel by anything they want 25+
Dunloy by 15+
Rossa to narrowly beat Ballycastle (may be controversial but it will happen!)

IHC - Carey to beat Cloughmills (lot of people think this will be the other way around - I disagree) and Creggan to beat Gorts
JHC - St Teresas & Rasharkin (least confident of my selections as I know very little about this level)

Any thoughts anyone?

Creggan couldn't get a team to travel to us on Sunday, so you'd wonder what way they'll be fixed this weekend!!!
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 26, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 10. The dall will have too much in them for the Johnies
Loughgiel by a lot. Sadly for St Galls it will end up in double figures
Dunloy by hopefully enough to win it! I would be very disappointed if we didnt win.
Rossa by 1 point. im the same as Hirty Darry and think Ballycastle will implode again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 10. The dall will have too much in them for the Johnies
Loughgiel by a lot. Sadly for St Galls it will end up in double figures
Dunloy by hopefully enough to win it! I would be very disappointed if we didnt win.
Rossa by 1 point. im the same as Hirty Darry and think Ballycastle will implode again.

Ballycastle will beat Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 26, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 10. The dall will have too much in them for the Johnies
Loughgiel by a lot. Sadly for St Galls it will end up in double figures
Dunloy by hopefully enough to win it! I would be very disappointed if we didnt win.
Rossa by 1 point. im the same as Hirty Darry and think Ballycastle will implode again.

Ballycastle will beat Rossa

I'm going to throw it out there. I think the town have turned a corner and will make a final appearance this year. Honestly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 26, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: cfclg on August 26, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 10. The dall will have too much in them for the Johnies
Loughgiel by a lot. Sadly for St Galls it will end up in double figures
Dunloy by hopefully enough to win it! I would be very disappointed if we didnt win.
Rossa by 1 point. im the same as Hirty Darry and think Ballycastle will implode again.

Ballycastle will beat Rossa

I'm going to throw it out there. I think the town have turned a corner and will make a final appearance this year. Honestly

Here's hoping!  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 11:34:45 AM
Weekend Predictions (SHC)

Cushendall by 10. The dall will have too much in them for the Johnies
Loughgiel by a lot. Sadly for St Galls it will end up in double figures
Dunloy by hopefully enough to win it! I would be very disappointed if we didnt win.
Rossa by 1 point. im the same as Hirty Darry and think Ballycastle will implode again.

Ballycastle will beat Rossa

+1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 26, 2015, 02:55:42 PM
No doubt which game has the result most up for grabs then - I agree it's the pick of the round.
Really looking forward to it now!
Anyone any ideas about either team in/outs or  how  it  might pan out?
I'm looking at Rossa trying to replicate the feel-good winning strategy from intermediate - while ballycastle will rely on their main players experience at senior level.
Games like this need a team to set the tone from the start - after that it can come down to who took a goal chance or hit more wides.
Strangely I think both teams I have more to lose than gain in this fixture.
A loss for Rossa question if they have made the step back to senior and for ballycastle it would beg the question if their comeback is ever coming.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 26, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Rossa cant just drop back down again if they dont have a good championship, they need to stick at it. They have a good solid under 16 team and some good minors coming through and if they can keep working away with their future players they will be ok. Dropping back down isnt an option imo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 26, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Rossa cant just drop back down again if they dont have a good championship, they need to stick at it. They have a good solid under 16 team and some good minors coming through and if they can keep working away with their future players they will be ok. Dropping back down isnt an option imo.
+1  Rossa have nothing to be gained by dropping down again.  Ride it out for as long as they can. After all thier proud hurling history and pedigree should eventually stand by them.  A step further back by taking a drop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on August 26, 2015, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 26, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
Rossa cant just drop back down again if they dont have a good championship, they need to stick at it. They have a good solid under 16 team and some good minors coming through and if they can keep working away with their future players they will be ok. Dropping back down isnt an option imo.

Rossa, or any other team for that matter, in next seasons division one will have to play Senior championship. You do not have a choice to play down a grade. (You are allowed to play up as many grades as you want, but not down) When Rossa played intermediate last year they were entitled to do so because they were in division 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 26, 2015, 08:26:26 PM
I wouldn't think dropping down again would be on the agenda at all - beating ballycastle should be!
Injuries shoebox?
What about the town?
I imagine the venue would please Rossa more than ballycastle.

St John's really fancy their chances - although we've been here before. I would imagine cushendall will have too much for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 27, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
HURLING IN ANTRIM by Seamus Clarke

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke)

If Antrim had all those areas mentioned still hurling we'd be contesting all irelands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 09:45:35 AM
MIGAB are you a current or former ref?  MIGAB/MR2 is there any truth about a rumour (you know how rumours work) that a few refs have resigned following a questionable referee appointment (i.e Senior Quarter Final - the ref in question has allegedly only been seen out once this year in league yet has been put straight in to a Senior Championship game!)

Can see where they are coming from if true?

Is it the county that appoint the refs for Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2015, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 09:45:35 AM
MIGAB are you a current or former ref?  MIGAB/MR2 is there any truth about a rumour (you know how rumours work) that a few refs have resigned following a questionable referee appointment (i.e Senior Quarter Final - the ref in question has allegedly only been seen out once this year in league yet has been put straight in to a Senior Championship game!)

Can see where they are coming from if true?

Is it the county that appoint the refs for Championship?

I'm sure he's a quality referee and for whatever reasons (that you or I don't know) he got the job. I think a lot of people get hung up on whether they get a top refereeing game... I'm not, I'm as happy refereeing under 16's as I m refereeing senior.. you can't it seems please everybody all of the time  ;)

hopefully all the games are well, marshalled by the men in black
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 11:24:50 AM
Not one of the quarter finals wets the appetite. 4 damp squids I expect. The only saving grace is on Sunday those going to Loughiel and Dunloy should see two competitive games in the intermediate championship. Final thought if Rossa can nullify Ciaran Clarke and Saul McCaughan they will have a slim chance. If Ballycastle have any chance this year they need to get those two into the centre of everything. They failed to do that last year against Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2015, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 11:24:50 AM
Not one of the quarter finals wets the appetite. 4 damp squids I expect. The only saving grace is on Sunday those going to Loughiel and Dunloy should see two competitive games in the intermediate championship. Final thought if Rossa can nullify Ciaran Clarke and Saul McCaughan they will have a slim chance. If Ballycastle have any chance this year they need to get those two into the centre of everything. They failed to do that last year against Dunloy.

Would need two speedy defenders to look after them and last time I looked they didn't have that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
looking forward to a good weekends hurling. I only hope the rain stays away around our part as it poured last night throughout the senior football match in Dunloy. Brutal conditions.

Sunday is a full day of hurling and a monday off to boot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2015, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
HURLING IN ANTRIM by Seamus Clarke

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke)

If Antrim had all those areas mentioned still hurling we'd be contesting all irelands

Maybe I need to get a life - but really enjoyed reading that than-you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2015, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.

All over it this Saturday, dusting down the boots now as wee speak  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.

Great talent - and love watching the way the hurl.
But in Championship anything can happen and that's what the Dall will count on.
Shamrocks for another Volunteer Cup for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 27, 2015, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.

That's one that is a bone of contention for some Loughgiel people too.  Odhran was / is our best half back but we have persisted in playing him in the forwards to accommodate others.  I highly doubt that Winker or Benny will play against St Galls. Both have barely played all year (injuries being out of the country etc) and we've had a squad of forwards who've won us every competitive game to date. Our most promising and consistent forward this year has been Sian McGrath, looking forward to seeing him play at senior championship level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.

Loughgiel averaged 26/27 (total pts) per game in the league.  If the trend continues (I know Championship in different) they would be difficult to stop.

Interesting fact though - recently, they only managed to score a total points tally of 18 pts (the lowest in their league campaign) against a significantly weakened Cushendall side.

In that first half, Cushendall proved they can stop five of the six mentioned above, if Arron was back that would sort a certain Mr Watson.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
But didn't Cushendall only score 1.12 or something in that game though?  That was a month ago and in that time Loughiel have blew better teams away including Ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 27, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 27, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
HURLING IN ANTRIM by Seamus Clarke

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke (http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/hurling-in-antrim-by-seamus-clarke)

If Antrim had all those areas mentioned still hurling we'd be contesting all irelands

Interesting read
I didn't know LG was known for its c..k fighting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
But didn't Cushendall only score 1.12 or something in that game though?  That was a month ago and in that time Loughiel have blew better teams away including Ballycran.

Missing quite a few forwards of note.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 27, 2015, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
I said it last year and I got it............ WRONG. On paper Ballycastle have great forwards. Clarke, Mccaughan, Jennings, McGarry, McAfee but they don't seem to be able to get the performances out of them. With the recent change of management I can't see them doing it this year. Ronan Donnelly is a great guy and maybe with time could bring them up a level.

Dunloy something similar. Now that Nigel Elliott is fit you have Shorty and Nicky McKeague beside him. That's some
serious firepower and they have slipped quietly under the radar this year.

But listen the no bullshit boys on here know Loughgiel are going to blow everyone away. They are talented in every
position. And with a forward six of possibly/probably Eddie, Joey, Shea, Benny, Clyde (for some reason playing 10
all year) Winker(would you be surprised)? I don't think there is a defence in Antrim can stop that.

That's one that is a bone of contention for some Loughgiel people too.  Odhran was / is our best half back but we have persisted in playing him in the forwards to accommodate others.  I highly doubt that Winker or Benny will play against St Galls. Both have barely played all year (injuries being out of the country etc) and we've had a squad of forwards who've won us every competitive game to date. Our most promising and consistent forward this year has been Sian McGrath, looking forward to seeing him play at senior championship level.

Quality player young Sian. Would he get a look in this year?

What about young James McNaughton, will he feature or is he still injured
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: wino on August 27, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
But didn't Cushendall only score 1.12 or something in that game though?  That was a month ago and in that time Loughiel have blew better teams away including Ballycran.
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Missing quite a few forwards of note.
That makes Cushendall favourites then to win the championship!
It was said at the time of the match as they were missing so many.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: wino on August 27, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 27, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
But didn't Cushendall only score 1.12 or something in that game though?  That was a month ago and in that time Loughiel have blew better teams away including Ballycran.
[/quot
Missing quite a few forwards of note.
That makes Cushendall favourites then to win the championship!
It was said at the time of the match as they were missing so many.
Let's not get carried away, Loughgiel are the overwhelming favourites and rightly so.  Favourites can be beaten though. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 10:39:25 AM
I believe the favourites were beaten last year. Yes? What the bookies say means nothing. Cushendall won the championship with a great defence last year. They'll be out to do the same again. As reigning champions they'll be out to defend their title with everything they've got, which makes them formidable opponents. Anyone who thinks the championship is a walk over for loughgiel hasn't got a clue to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 10:39:25 AMelieve the favourites were beaten last year. Yes? What the bookies say means nothing. Cushendall won the championship with a great defence last year. They'll be out to do the same again. As reigning champions they'll be out to defend their title with everything they've got, which makes them formidable opponents. Anyone who thinks the championship is a walk over for loughgiel hasn't got a clue to be honest.

Nonsense! Predictable and boring post. The Shamrocks had lost the hunger last year as well as two monumental forwards. We could go back and forward here all day let's just leave it until the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 10:39:25 AMelieve the favourites were beaten last year. Yes? What the bookies say means nothing. Cushendall won the championship with a great defence last year. They'll be out to do the same again. As reigning champions they'll be out to defend their title with everything they've got, which makes them formidable opponents. Anyone who thinks the championship is a walk over for loughgiel hasn't got a clue to be honest.

Nonsense! Predictable and boring post. The Shamrocks had lost the hunger last year as well as two monumental forwards. We could go back and forward here all day let's just leave it until the final.
I refer you to my previous post.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 29, 2015, 12:57:19 PM
Championshp is championship, no certainties just possibilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 29, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 10:39:25 AMelieve the favourites were beaten last year. Yes? What the bookies say means nothing. Cushendall won the championship with a great defence last year. They'll be out to do the same again. As reigning champions they'll be out to defend their title with everything they've got, which makes them formidable opponents. Anyone who thinks the championship is a walk over for loughgiel hasn't got a clue to be honest.

Nonsense! Predictable and boring post. The Shamrocks had lost the hunger last year as well as two monumental forwards. We could go back and forward here all day let's just leave it until the final.
according to you everybody is predictable and boring. For goodness sake your no Paddy Heaney or Brolly. I suppose you will bid for Brollys position on RTE. Must remember never to tune in then. You must be one of the new boys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross line
47.msg1507504#msg1507504 date=1440849439
Championshp is championship, no certainties. just possibilities.

I am certain Rasharkin will beat O'Donnells. I am certain  Loughiel will beat Naomh Gall. I am certain Ballycastle will beat Rossa. I am certain Dunloy will beat Clooney Gaels and I'm certain Cushendall will beat St. John's....always with the  cliché, flowery language Geteven...... And always without substance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2015, 01:52:27 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross line
47.msg1507504#msg1507504 date=1440849439
Championshp is championship, no certainties. just possibilities.

I am certain Rasharkin will beat O'Donnells. I am certain  Loughiel will beat Naomh Gall. I am certain Ballycastle will beat Rossa. I am certain Dunloy will beat Clooney Gaels and I'm certain Cushendall will beat St. John's....always with the  cliché, flowery language Geteven...... And always without substance.

Definitely ruling out Rossa & The Johnnies hurlingstick?
Why? Although I'm afraid I'd have to agree - don't see a city win unless ballycastle implode again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
I just don't think Rossa can outscore Ballycastle. I think you will struggle to contain Clarke and Mccaughern. Add into that McAfee, McGarry, possibly TT Butler and that's serious fire power. I think it will be the closest of the 4 quarter finals and if there is a possibility of an upset it could only come from this game.

Cushendall are too strong in defence and although St. john's have a couple of decent forwards they will be stifled. I'm not convinced of Cushendall's forwards. Carson and McNaughton for me are overrated. Karl is kicking on a bit. That asside they will have too much for St. Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Will be no shocks today.... I'm hoping we put up a great fight and try and stay with Loughgiel for first 20 mins... Hopefully no early goals as that will kill us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
Ballycastle leading by 8. Must be 10/15 to go. (According to twitter)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2015, 05:48:10 PM
Closer to the end than i thought. Ballycastle by 10.

2-12 to 0-8.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 07:01:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 29, 2015, 05:48:10 PM
Closer to the end than i thought. Ballycastle by 10.

2-12 to 0-8.

It was poor fare, Rossa absolutely dire
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
St galls 11-7 up near ht. Where is this predictable championship yous were all on about? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:23:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?
I'll be too busy drowning my sorrows in the middle of Belfast at this rate.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:23:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?
I'll be too busy drowning my sorrows in the middle of Belfast at this rate.  :-\

Sure all is good now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 07:33:58 PM
Any score updates ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:37:35 PM
1-17 to 0-13 to loughgiel. Winker brought on as sub making all the difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:37:35 PM
1-17 to 0-13 to loughgiel. Winker brought on as sub making all the difference.

FT?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:37:35 PM
1-17 to 0-13 to loughgiel. Winker brought on as sub making all the difference.

FT?
1-23 to 0-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Was never in doubt  :o
St Galls turned to hitting of the ball after starting very sharp and had loughgiel rattled.  Half time came at the right time,  subs made all the difference.   Thank god we got going, Cdall lads that found the half time score funny weren't laughing that much at full time.  Dall still big favorites. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 08:03:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 07:37:35 PM
1-17 to 0-13 to loughgiel. Winker brought on as sub making all the difference.

FT?
1-23 to 0-15

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 29, 2015, 08:29:53 PM
Rossa/Balycastle game a dull enogh affair but Ballycastle far superior.  Rossa didn't have enough quality players to compete especially up front.  Ballcastle impressive enough towards the end of the game.

Loughiel and St Galls game kept us interested until they drew level and after that it was all one way traffic.  St Galls half back line got tortured in the first half and changes had to be made.  Burke gave Johnny Campbell a hard enough time as did 10 and 12 for St Galls.  Loughiel's half forward line were AWOL in the first half.  Winker came on and played around the middle and calmed things down.  They gave him the ball every time.  On one hand, that's very positive for Loughiel but on the other very worrying. 

St Gall's discipline started to slip and Loughiel finished them off but never have I heard Loughiel people so quiet.
you obviously didn't watch them 10-15 years ago.  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?

Dd
Ding
tony 
tc
James 
johnny 
ronan
Duck 
barney
Odhran 
skinner 
eddie
Dan 
joey 
shay
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?

Dd
Ding
tony 
tc
James 
johnny 
ronan
Duck 
barney
Odhran 
skinner 
eddie
Dan 
joey 
shay

Strong enough side. With Watson & Benny to come back into that side, the shams could be the team to beat. Can't understand playing Odhran McF at wing forward though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2015, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?

Dd
Ding
tony 
tc
James 
johnny 
ronan
Duck 
barney
Odhran 
skinner 
eddie
Dan 
joey 
shay

Strong enough side. With Watson & Benny to come back into that side, the shams could be the team to beat. Can't understand playing Odhran McF at wing forward though.

Have to agree.  He is not a forward.  Our half back line were under a lot of pressure in the first half and I really believe Odhran would make a real impact there.  In 2013 when we played him consistently in the half back line he was our star defender in the Antrim final v Cushendall and against Slaughtneil down in Celtic Park when we had a tough time of it.  Hopefully sense prevails.

Winker showed a few touches of class when he came on. Dan McCloskey was excellent for us, good to see him step up a level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 29, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Was never in doubt  :o
St Galls turned to hitting of the ball after starting very sharp and had loughgiel rattled.  Half time came at the right time,  subs made all the difference.   Thank god we got going, Cdall lads that found the half time score funny weren't laughing that much at full time.  Dall still big favorites.

Hitting off the ball?? Are you serious?? Behave not our style never will be.. After half time your lads came out a ll jeed up and did some jostling... Obviously got their balls rolled by PJ at halftime.... We played outstanding for 40 minutes... But games last 60+minutes.. We had 7 lads training on Thursday night.... Senior football have trained 4 nights a week... We are the most frustrating club to be part off.. For the lads that played their hearts out well done and never give up...

The only time you knew loughgiel supporters were at Corrigan was when they went in front. 40 minutes in... Rossa were poor castle always had edge... Was talking to Ronan afterwards he was pleased but plenty to work on... Some Johnnies lads were really giving it the big talk for tomorrow...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2015, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 08:38:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
SIE any chance of posting the Loughiel team after the game is over?

Dd
Ding
tony 
tc
James 
johnny 
ronan
Duck 
barney
Odhran 
skinner 
eddie
Dan 
joey 
shay

Strong enough side. With Watson & Benny to come back into that side, the shams could be the team to beat. Can't understand playing Odhran McF at wing forward though.

Have to agree.  He is not a forward.  Our half back line were under a lot of pressure in the first half and I really believe Odhran would make a real impact there.  In 2013 when we played him consistently in the half back line he was our star defender in the Antrim final v Cushendall and against Slaughtneil down in Celtic Park when we had a tough time of it.  Hopefully sense prevails.

Winker showed a few touches of class when he came on. Dan McCloskey was excellent for us, good to see him step up a level.

Any time I've watched the county this year, he's been a good solid defender. I've watched 2/3 times this year and he's struggled.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 29, 2015, 11:56:12 PM
I've a feeling he'll not play there next game.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 11:59:16 PM
So was it "manly" or hitting off the ball ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2015, 12:32:30 AM
Well St Galls done the better hurling before they started into the "Manly" stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:48:37 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 30, 2015, 12:32:30 AM
Well St Galls done the better hurling before they started into the "Manly" stuff.

Honestly?? There was no manly or dirt in the game. You've been watching another game.. Thought Owen did a great job also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 30, 2015, 10:03:15 AM
Heard a rumour that dall are missing a few , any truth in this?
Will these absentees make a difference ?

From talking to a few of our boys last night it was the lougheil boys who came out at start of second half trying to throw the stick in. Somebody forgot to tell our boys to stand down 😳.

But wasn't a dirty game and I really enjoyed it. With all things taken into account our boys done our club and themselves very proud and the result for me was never in doubt as impossible to sustain our good start due to these things but great to keep the infamous loud supporters quiet and worried for 40 mins😜

What it will do will give lougheil a bit of a shake as they weren't impressive and didnt seem to have a game plan which really surprised me and their pacy full fwd line was only utilised in second half.
It will also give the other clubs a bit of a boost as this championship isn't a foregone conclusion yet

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 30, 2015, 10:12:27 AM
As a Loughgiel fan I didn't see any 'dirt' or overly physical stuff. Its championship FFS.  I'd agree that our support was quieter than usual and there didn't appear to be the same numbers we usually bring.  I think many thought the result was a foregone conclusion which maybe was part of the reason behind our first half performance.

I was chatting to two Rossa men during our game and they think that the Johnnies will give Cushendall a shock, I honestly don't see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 30, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 29, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross line
47.msg1507504#msg1507504 date=1440849439
Championshp is championship, no certainties. just possibilities.
As

I am certain Rasharkin will beat O'Donnells. I am certain  Loughiel will beat Naomh Gall. I am certain Ballycastle will beat Rossa. I am certain Dunloy will beat Clooney Gaels and I'm certain Cushendall will beat St. John's....always with the  cliché, flowery language Geteven...... And always without substance.
As Mossad/ Hebrew saying, "better to go after one than after many". Now that will have ya flummoxed, boi!

Well no major upsets but weekend is not over yet.  Just would not know what this evening will bring.  Loughgiel got a timely wake up call and the town were far from impressive. I didn't expect any major upsets but you just never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 30, 2015, 11:27:37 AM
Well little dos I know my value for money would be from the St Galls game rather than Rossa - maybe our impeccable county board new more than us after all with the curtain raiser & main event.

Cannot give St Galls enough credit. I posted earlier in the week about the ability of teams to lift it a level for championship - nobody does that like St galls! Fantastic and yet infuriating in equal measure!
There's clearly a competitiveness & will to win which is only betrayed by a lack of commitment to the code. North Antrim teams don't know their living having only one code to prepare for. Some would say Loughgiel started flat then just done enough? That's an indictment on them as championship comes round once a year - nobody is flat for that. St Galls had the bit between their teeth more like.

The Rossa Ballycastle game was poor. Two poor teams with Ballycastle either having more competitiveness or more hurling or both. But I didn't see anything in them to challenge for a volunteer cup. Rossa looked - dare I say - intermediate.

On the road this evening so I won't get to Dunloy - as confident as the johnnies are I fully expect a cushendall victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manballandall on August 30, 2015, 01:27:35 PM
Couldn't agree more btdtgtt.
Very frustrating from a hurling point of view in our club.
People don't believe us when we say we had 7 people at training last Tuesday and that's been a regular occurrence throughout the season.
We couldn't get a manager at start of season and hats off to the guys who stood in, they know their hurling but aren't coaches and as a result a lot of training we have had hasn't been great.

Not sure what the answer is, if there is one , but certainly I would love for our hurlers to train for one season the way our footballers do or hit the same number of balls dunloy or lougheil or cushendall do throughout the season .(I'd settle for half even )
Would it make a difference , certainly but I doubt we will ever know the full extent.

Lougheil weren't impressive and credit has to be given to our boys, there's nobody else who tackles the way we do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Faughs beat the biddies by 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 30, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
Any word on Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 05:24:53 PM
4-23 to 2-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 30, 2015, 06:20:30 PM
Extra time in the intermediate in what is the best game of the day so far..... By a mile
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 30, 2015, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 05:24:53 PM
4-23 to 2-13

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
As big a crowd as I can remember seeing in Dunloy. Great to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:03:18 PM
Scores??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:14:33 PM
1-3 to 0-2 to the johnnies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
1-4 to 0-4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
1-4 to 0-4

Shock on cards??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:23:10 PM
1-6 to 0-6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 30, 2015, 07:30:13 PM
1.08 v 0.6 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
1-4 to 0-4
No.

Shock on cards??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
1-4 to 0-4
No.

Shock on cards??

Well when a team is 5 points up at half time when their odds are 5/1 to win... Oh wait....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:51:34 PM
2 quick goals by young McAfee. Dall up by 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Johnnies 1-12 Cushendall 2-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 07:58:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Johnnies 1-12 Cushendall 2-7

Low scoring game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:00:01 PM
1-13 to 2-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2015, 08:07:39 PM
Johnnies goal  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
4-9 to 2-14 now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
Cushendall progress. 4-10 to 2-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
Cushendall progress. 4-10 to 2-15

Never in doubt  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 30, 2015, 08:18:59 PM
Hard luck theJohnnies, though they were going to do it and cause the upset. Ah well, Championsip.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
Cushendall progress. 4-10 to 2-15

Johnnies collapse ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
They came under serious pressure at the end. To be honest it could have went either Way at the end up. Fair play to the dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 08:26:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
They came under serious pressure at the end. To be honest it could have went either Way at the end up. Fair play to the dall.

Sign of champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:41:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 08:26:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
They came under serious pressure at the end. To be honest it could have went either Way at the end up. Fair play to the dall.

Sign of champions
Definitely. They'll be hard to stop now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 09:41:40 PM
Quote from: shoebox on August 30, 2015, 09:29:09 PM
2 great games and a great crowd too. Fair play to all teams and squads involved.
seconded. It's great to see the crowds turning out. I just caught the second half of extra time  of the intermediate game. From all accounts the game of the season.

The semi finals of the senior championship are going to be immense I think. Both games pairing up teams who fancy beating each other. Can't wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 30, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Would be mighty if the powers that be put the 2 games on as a double header.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 30, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Would be mighty if the powers that be put the 2 games on as a double header.

Analysis later??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 30, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 30, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Would be mighty if the powers that be put the 2 games on as a double header.
wouldn't that show our county board to be progressive? It would be great jj. Can't see it happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 09:55:37 PM
Yeah any reports on the games... Were cushendall lucky? Were the johnnies good? Were the dall bad? Did i read graffin was back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 30, 2015, 09:58:09 PM
Holy crap, we used our get out of jail free card tonight. I seriously thought we where gone and perhaps the Johnnies deserved at least a draw. Our forwards with the exception of Sean McAfee never showed up. David Kearney and to a lesser degree Ryan McCambridge where our stars tonight. Big crowd, I'd say the neutral where entertained alright. I didn't see any other matches this weekend, but I thought the standard wasn't too impressive, but I'll credit the lads who came back from the dead, our mental strength that is questioned often was severely tested and we just about passed. Tonight's performance will get us hammered by Loughgiel in a fortnight, so we must improve fast.
The Johnnies deserve credit for their performance and will be gutted I'm sure but they where a lot better than I expected, I still am not impressed with them as a club but that's for another day!!My last point was on the referees performance, he is too whistle happy, and seems to want to be the star of the show, I gave credit to Owen a few weeks ago, on how he managed the game and players, cunning should take heed. I though He was a joke tonight, how the Johnnies man wasn't red carded for the pull on Ryan was unreal, the ref in the first game was also poor and was clearly looking after his own division. Sorry but that's the way I and my mates around me felt, the refereeing standard needs improving fast!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on August 31, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
I'm not a huge fan of Owen Elliott but I knew he had a great game when I didn't notice him during  loughgeil v St galls and while Cunning may have been over fussy at times I have to say he was fairly consistent with his decisions like them or not. In the 4 games I seen over the weekend the refs had good games and most importantly never impacted on the results
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2015, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on August 31, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
I'm not a huge fan of Owen Elliott but I knew he had a great game when I didn't notice him during  loughgeil v St galls and while Cunning may have been over fussy at times I have to say he was fairly consistent with his decisions like them or not. In the 4 games I seen over the weekend the refs had good games and most importantly never impacted on the results
What kind of a fan are you of Owen Elliott now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 08:23:07 AM
At present yes, but Cushendall won out in the end, with a depleted team, not being able to hold on to a lead (like ourselves) shows lack of experience, or fitness possibly but the Johnnies might push on, might not but Cushendall will always be there or thereabouts in next few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2015, 08:33:24 AM
Cushendall are really lacking in forwards. They can also be susceptible to pace at the back. I know they won last year but they looked very weak for a cushendall team and have definitely went backwards.

That being said I think their key men are coming back from injury so the game will do them good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 09:19:44 AM
Cushendall where really poor yesterday, we should (i hope) improve for the next game.

Team selection IMHO had a large part in how we played. Shane & Neill getting a good full game over them and graffin coming back should help things.

Saying that we have been very poor all year forgetting excuses (injuries etc) so it was no surprise we where poor again.

As for the Ref, the less said the better, the slap on Ryan was a disgrace and how it didn't get a red card is beyond me, the ref simply spoiled an already poor game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on August 31, 2015, 09:39:30 AM
What cushendall team started?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 31, 2015, 09:50:35 AM
Bad luck to the Johnnies it sounded like some great fare in Dunloy.
Possibly right the lack of experience not closing the game out.
Now let's wait for the brains in casement (!) to set up the semis!
I don't think anything previous matters now - they are stand alone games decided very much on the day - and all four teams thinking they will win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 09:53:38 AM
Blaming the referee for a 'poor' game.... Grow up ffs... He didn't get a decision one set of fans wanted and he ruined the game... Wally
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 09:59:24 AM
sorry, the all knowing great one has spoken, i take back all i said, you are right and im wrong. :o

btw it was more than one and various neutrals around me thought the same on each occasion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 31, 2015, 10:06:17 AM
Cushendall were very lucky yesterday to get a win. They know that themselves. Haven't been playing well all season but still dug in to get a result when things weren't going well.
Will have to improve massively for Loughgiel.

Only thing I'll say on Skinny. Referees have a tough job, they can't get every decision but not to send off the Johnies player for a disgraceful pull was shocking.

Finally, to have the match in Dunloy on a pitch that has a history of being wet was pathetic from the County board especially with a double header. Not fair on all 4 teams.

Fair play to Creggan for digging out a good win v the Gorts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2015, 10:10:50 AM
I seen some soft ish frees blown in the second half for both teams but apart from that I fail to see what all the whinging is about. Johnson's pull(s) was wild but I didn't think it was a red.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 09:59:24 AM
sorry, the all knowing great one has spoken, i take back all i said, you are right and im wrong. :o

btw it was more than one and various neutrals around me thought the same on each occasion.

I'm not saying it wasn't a reckless pull nor saying he shouldn't have been given a red card but to blame the referee for not getting that one right and thus spoiling the game is a bit daft don't you think??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
last time i comment on the ref.

he was really poor to both teams IMHO, he helped spoil a poor game (believe it or not MR2 that can happen)

he copped out on at least two red cards

the one on Ryan was Red all day long, (you couldn't have seen it properly from where your where standing skull) - tell me, someone trying to block the ball at full reach and guy standing beside him hits him for all he is fit across the head / shoulder before the ball is even there, im sorry but that's a red all day long.

as i have said we where really poor, we didn't deserve to win, but we did, the ref was also very poor, no sour grapes just telling it as it is.

end of convo from me. lets hope for two good games in the semi's

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 31, 2015, 10:37:49 AM
Bouncy
David K
Marty B
Aiden McN
Campbell
Ryan McC
SD
Shane
P Magill
C-Mac
Niel
Carson
Eoin L
Sean McAfee
Christy

Karl came on for Eoin
Natty on for Christy
Graffin on for C-Mac
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
last time i comment on the ref.

he was really poor to both teams IMHO, he helped spoil a poor game (believe it or not MR2 that can happen)

he copped out on at least two red cards

the one on Ryan was Red all day long, (you couldn't have seen it properly from where your where standing skull) - tell me, someone trying to block the ball at full reach and guy standing beside him hits him for all he is fit across the head / shoulder before the ball is even there, im sorry but that's a red all day long.

as i have said we where really poor, we didn't deserve to win, but we did, the ref was also very poor, no sour grapes just telling it as it is.

end of convo from me. lets hope for two good games in the semi's
Johnson and the the player that hit MC Cambridge could have saw red for sure I thought johnsons was worse as the ball wasnt there
Using your logic Carson could have walked as well
Maybe skinny was thinking of pat Horgan getting red v Limerick two years ago for the exact same thing and rte  anylist thinking it was harsh
Horgan got the decision overturned for next match
Bar these skinny did ok
In fact I didn't see a bad ref performance in LG or dunloy yesterday compared to years gone by
No big game changing mistakes
As for the game it jack knifed for St John's when MC Manus started hurling with 5 to go
Before that I was giving MC Crory man of the match as he was cleaning him out
I think this was the game changer
Very good match for the neutral but strengthens the view that LG are red hot favourites for the title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
Well good luck to all 4 teams in the semi-finals its the way the county wanted.....

Loughgiel didn't start against us but showed their class in the end

Ballycastle did enough to beat a poor enough (on the day) Rossa team

Dunloy did exactly what was asked of them put up a good score and won handy

Cushendall won and considering the injuries and poor form of late they got over the line


The semis will be more tense but don't expect any shocks either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 31, 2015, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 31, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 31, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
last time i comment on the ref.

he was really poor to both teams IMHO, he helped spoil a poor game (believe it or not MR2 that can happen)

he copped out on at least two red cards

the one on Ryan was Red all day long, (you couldn't have seen it properly from where your where standing skull) - tell me, someone trying to block the ball at full reach and guy standing beside him hits him for all he is fit across the head / shoulder before the ball is even there, im sorry but that's a red all day long.

as i have said we where really poor, we didn't deserve to win, but we did, the ref was also very poor, no sour grapes just telling it as it is.

end of convo from me. lets hope for two good games in the semi's
Johnson and the the player that hit MC Cambridge could have saw red for sure I thought johnsons was worse as the ball wasnt there
Using your logic Carson could have walked as well
Maybe skinny was thinking of pat Horgan getting red v Limerick two years ago for the exact same thing and rte  anylist thinking it was harsh
Horgan got the decision overturned for next match
Bar these skinny did ok
In fact I didn't see a bad ref performance in LG or dunloy yesterday compared to years gone by
No big game changing mistakes
As for the game it jack knifed for St John's when MC Manus started hurling with 5 to go
Before that I was giving MC Crory man of the match as he was cleaning him out
I think this was the game changer
Very good match for the neutral but strengthens the view that LG are red hot favourites for the title
Straight red in my opionion, a pre-pted, early, vicious and cowardly stroke - shame in the offender.  Referee can not always get it right though, damned if he does, damned either way.  Herby a good lad all the same. I did'nt realise he was a Dunloy man, always thought he was Glenarriffe.  Live and learn. Hard luck Johnnies, thought they may have caused the upset.  Whens the Semis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 01:39:05 PM
Herbie Glenravel. Cunning Dunloy... Semis two weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 31, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 01:39:05 PM
Herbie Glenravel. Cunning Dunloy... Semis two weeks
Cheers man and thanks for the steer.  So that was Colum Cunning also, really got my wires crossed?   Are the Semis in Ballycastle or elsewhere. Need to decide which coat to wear, baltic up there for city men.

A real pity your boys cannot juggle with the two cides, I was impessed in first half on Saturday evening.  Difficult I know to committ with endeavour and enthusiasm to both codes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on August 31, 2015, 02:23:42 PM
Whilst the prospect of a doubleheader is appealing, where could you possibly hold it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on August 31, 2015, 02:23:42 PM
Whilst the prospect of a doubleheader is appealing, where could you possibly hold it?

Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 31, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on August 31, 2015, 02:23:42 PM
Whilst the prospect of a doubleheader is appealing, where could you possibly hold it?

Corrigan
Glenravel. Ballymena.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 31, 2015, 03:56:40 PM
One semi final in loughgiel the other in Dunloy or ballycastle. Elliott reffing one of the semis and some boy mckeown the other. So I've heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 31, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
County won't hold this as a double header, not a chance. I'm surprised that some of ya thought that was even a thought in their deluded minds $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glensgael on August 31, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Would it be Ballycastle v Dunloy on Saturday in Loughgiel £8 and double header on the Sunday with intermediate final on before Cushendall v Loughgiel possibly in Dunloy or Ballycastle. £10.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on August 31, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: glensgael on August 31, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Would it be Ballycastle v Dunloy on Saturday in Loughgiel £8 and double header on the Sunday with intermediate final on before Cushendall v Loughgiel possibly in Dunloy or Ballycastle. £10.

Play lgiel v dall in Dunloy wet pitch or not. I'd rather play on a wet pitch than get the head blew off me in ballycastle. Better atmosphere in Dunloy also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on August 31, 2015, 06:14:21 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on August 31, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: glensgael on August 31, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Would it be Ballycastle v Dunloy on Saturday in Loughgiel £8 and double header on the Sunday with intermediate final on before Cushendall v Loughgiel possibly in Dunloy or Ballycastle. £10.

Play lgiel v dall in Dunloy wet pitch or not. I'd rather play on a wet pitch than get the head blew off me in ballycastle. Better atmosphere in Dunloy also.
+ 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 31, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: glensgael on August 31, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Would it be Ballycastle v Dunloy on Saturday in Loughgiel £8 and double header on the Sunday with intermediate final on before Cushendall v Loughgiel possibly in Dunloy or Ballycastle. £10.

Junior and intermediate finals are weekend of 19/20 whereas I think senior semis are in two weeks.

Agree - definitely not Ballycastle. Wind ruins too many (every?) game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 31, 2015, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: Glensman on August 31, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: glensgael on August 31, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Would it be Ballycastle v Dunloy on Saturday in Loughgiel £8 and double header on the Sunday with intermediate final on before Cushendall v Loughgiel possibly in Dunloy or Ballycastle. £10.

Junior and intermediate finals are weekend of 19/20 whereas I think senior semis are in two weeks.

Agree - definitely not Ballycastle. Wind ruins too many (every?) game.
Dunloy was a bog last night and its quite often like that. I'd rather go to Armoy than Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 31, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
Both Dunloy and Loughgiel were soft from the terrible weather there's been, but suggesting our pitch was like a bog is just plain wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 31, 2015, 11:41:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 31, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
Both Dunloy and Loughgiel were soft from the terrible weather there's been, but suggesting our pitch was like a bog is just plain wrong

It wasn't far from it. It was a swimming Pool last year. Double header should not have been played there. Disgraceful for the 4 teams involved. Sure the Dunloy match v Rossa was moved the previous weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 01, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
It wasnt even close to what you're describing. Really strange you're making an issue of something that wasn't a issue on the night of the games.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 01, 2015, 12:29:13 AM
It didn't look like a bog but players in both games were slipping about a fair bit. Hardly matters though. It's the same for both teams though of course.
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Pitch has had the drainage fixed and it's draining well

As for being wet, would all the rain have anything to do with it

I think the comments on Ballycastle are a bit harsh to


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 01, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 01, 2015, 10:56:52 AM
Yes of course. I think you'll find my comment wasn't a criticism.  Dunloy are a great club and the day was well stewarded as expected.  Well done to them and indeed to all clubs who carry out such thankless tasks when it comes to championship.  Not allowing Casement to become a hayfield would relieve the burden from them I'm sure.
ah sure your just sniping at CB again.  Well as I said 'Championship is Championship' Johnnies and Galls certainly raised their respective games which u should expect in knock out anyway. Not enough to get over the line all the same but serious endeavour.  Cant wait to see what semis-throw up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on September 01, 2015, 01:34:17 PM
Senior Hurling Semi Finals
Dunloy v Ballycastle           Saturday  12th September 17.00    @ Loughgiel
Loughgiel v Cushendall     Sunday     13th September 17.00    @Dunloy


Junior Hurling Final             
Saturday 19th September  15.00 @ Armoy
St Teresas v Rasharkin

Intermediate  Hurling Final
Saturday 19th September  16.30   @ Armoy
Creggan v Carey

Minor B Hurling Final  : Creggan v Oisin  Saturday 26th September  15.00   @ Cushendall
Minor A Hurling Final  :  Naomh Padraig v  Dunloy   Saturday  26th September 16.30    @ Cushendall   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 01, 2015, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: aontroim on September 01, 2015, 01:34:17 PM
Senior Hurling Semi Finals
Dunloy v Ballycastle           Saturday  12th September 17.00    @ Loughgiel
Loughgiel v Cushendall     Sunday     13th September 17.00    @Dunloy


Junior Hurling Final             
Saturday 19th September  15.00 @ Armoy
St Teresas v Rasharkin

Intermediate  Hurling Final
Saturday 19th September  16.30   @ Armoy
Creggan v Carey

Minor B Hurling Final  : Creggan v Oisin  Saturday 26th September  15.00   @ Cushendall
Minor A Hurling Final  :  Naomh Padraig v  Dunloy   Saturday  26th September 16.30    @ Cushendall   

Sad to see so little City Interest at these stages bar Tessies in Junior final and Jonnies u-21 we are really in a bad place with hurling in the city. I honestly feel that when you look back at all the times Antrim were strong (at least competing) there were city teams keeping the country teams on their toes and no foregone conclusions come championship. championship is now full of foregone conclusions and bar the odd close run game it could be started at the semi final stage. this is not healthy nor is it any other clubs fault/responsibility to help clubs that are under achieving. I wish I had the answers but I feel I don't (bar a serious targeting of primary schools promoting hurling and getting clubs to be more proactive towards this goal of greater participation, also recruiting and really upskilling new and existing coaches within the city). Last year Belfast Cumann na mBunscol ran a year round Gaelic football programme with leagues, blitzes and championships. Hurling had one day in June which had to double up as league and Championship as there were two trophies that had to be given out. between 1pm and 3pm of one day in June. that's the hurling for a p7 in his last year of primary school in Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 01, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
Agee with everything here, we are going nowhere in Antrim to the city gets things sorted
Four strong ( arguably two really strong clubs ) is no good
We have been here before on this subject
In the case of Belfast hurling '' a few good men '' is not enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 01, 2015, 08:08:01 PM
Absolutely not a word to disagree with in either of those last two posts!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 12:44:47 AM
So we city slickers lick our wounds and do nothinng our apathy and helplessness set to continue. Just wonder if we will have to rely on the DUP and Shinners, CB, UC to get us out of this mess, heavens forbid.   Our current hurling woes/predicament seems to be in perpetual cycle of decline.

We need major radicalisation, empowerment, resource, comittment, leadership, in other words a major rethink, overhal and a good ridden out of redundant and inept personnel.  Who will fill the shoes, thats the millionn dollar question??  Any takers and any innovative suggestions/proposals from clubs??  Whats the state of play with candidates for County Chair, I heard it rumoured (well it is what it is - Rumour) that Jim Donnelly (Johnnies) may contend?  I can think of a lot worse persons than this good man.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on September 02, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
I think the reasons for Antrims current standing in the hurling world have been well documented on this board and they are many and varied, but I'm trying very hard to get my head around the blame (even partially) being laid at the door of Belfast clubs while we are supposedly relying on the usual North Antrim clubs for player development. How many North Antrim clubs burden themselves by developing football players to inter county standard ? How many North Antrim clubs have senior dual players and how many play Div 1 football and hurling while the 3 Belfast senior clubs Rossa, St Johns & St Galls are trying to balance the demands of both ? With a few notable exceptions how many inter county hurlers are regularly produced from the South West Antrim clubs ? This is not just a Belfast problem.

A serious debate is required about whether dual clubs splitting our meagre resources has any future in the progression of Gaelic games in general and hurling in particular in Antrim and if trying to accommodate both hurling and football leagues that don't clash is really helping anyone in the longer term. We are facing a tough future and we need to be able to take tough decisions together. Loughgeil, Cushendall, Kilkenny, Donegal, Tryone, Kerry etc show the way i.e. Concentrate on one code and have a chance at success.The dual counties and 'super clubs' of Cork and Dublin are the exceptions that prove the rule and a winning dual club/ county is becoming even more of an exception.

We face lots of problems e.g. no county ground or a centre of excellence for our development teams, ( just look at the embarrassing situation of Inadequate pitches for the Antrim cup games with Kilkenny and Dublin at UUJ never mind the Casement debacle) under resourced coaching structures, lack of funding and sponsorship for our county teams, schools participation and coaching that is decades behind successful counties etc etc. These are the real challenges we need to face together and whatever the  strategy devised we need to commit to doing something or we will keep getting similar results while other counties overtake us in these areas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2015, 09:53:14 AM
been off this past few days so never got to moan or complain about the weekends games lol

Went to both games on sat. Poor affairs in  my opinion. Rossa and Ballycastle never got going at all. The town got a rather poor goal in the first half that kept them in front and then a cracking one at the start of the second to kill the game off. I didnt see anything from them to make me worried about them.

Second game was just weird. St Galls blew Lgiel away in the first half with their intensity, was good to see they wernt there to just fulfill a game. They deserve a lot of credit for how they played. At half time i was chatting to a few Lgiel ones beside me and they were saying "aw i bet your enjoying this here". I just said "ive seen this before, and it didnt end well for us. You need big changes"

That they did, esp in midfield where they were getting eaten alive. Watson coming on changed it, he started to win all the loose ball and move it in quickly. I have to admit when the goal went in i knew it was game over.

Though it was funny to watch all the Lgiel ones bouncing up and down on the line celebrating it. One lad said to me 'there you go, you thought we were beat!' I just replied '8-27 you scored last time'. Just shows you can never take a team for granted.

Our game was prob the most dead in terms of atmosphere. I know we hit 4-23 but we conceded silly scores, really need to sharpen up in the back line.

Game of the weekend was the St Johns v Cdall game. Thought the better team lost imo though fair play to Cdall for getting the goals when it was needed. Mark of champions that is.

Just a side note, the criticism of our pitch is extremely unfair. To use the word 'bog' borders on stupidity. The amount of money that was spent last winter to drain the entire bottom end of that pitch from the halfway line down would put some clubs to shame. Also recently we have re-piped all of the storm drains around the pitch to ensure that the run off water goes away from the pitch as well.

Fact is we live in Ireland and it pisses down here more often that people have warm dinners. Our grounds man closes that pitch constantly and not one single team in our club is permitted to train on it, including our senior hurlers! He padlocks the gates to make sure of it! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 10:00:15 AM
Who's going to have the remit to chair that debate number4?

Players playing dual at senior level guarantees mediocrity (and overuse injuries) but I think we're no different than the rest of the dual counties with relatively small playing populations. We're stuck with it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 02, 2015, 10:51:22 AM
I seen on facebook there Loch Mor up in Crumlin are having a talk back night on Friday could be worth a trip for airing some of our county woes.

QuoteTALK BACK NIGHT FIDDLERS FRIDAY 9PM
Very pleased to announce our final member of the panel for talk back as 2015 World Champion handballer also local Camog and Footballer Aisling Reilly.
Leaving the final line up as:
GUEST CHAIR JOURNALIST COILIN DUFFY ALSO PRO OF NATIONAL GAA ROUNDERS
LIAM WATSON & KEVIN BRADY FORMER COUNTY HURLING & FOOTBALL STARS
JANE ADAMS & FIONNUALA CARR STAR CAMOGS FOR ANTRIM & DOWN
LIAM HINPHEY FORMER DERRY HURLING MANAGER & PLAYER
AISLING REILLY 2015 WORLD CHAMPION HANDBALLER.
WE'VE EVERY ANGLE COVERED APART FROM ROAD BOWLS LOL
THIS IS A MUST ATTEND FOR ANY GAA FAN AND MEMBER ALIKE WILL BE GREAT DEBATE AND CRAIC. 9PM SHARP FIDDLERS FRIDAY. OPEN TO EVERYONE LIVE MUSIC FOLLOWS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2015, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on September 02, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
I think the reasons for Antrims current standing in the hurling world have been well documented on this board and they are many and varied, but I'm trying very hard to get my head around the blame (even partially) being laid at the door of Belfast clubs while we are supposedly relying on the usual North Antrim clubs for player development. How many North Antrim clubs burden themselves by developing football players to inter county standard ? How many North Antrim clubs have senior dual players and how many play Div 1 football and hurling while the 3 Belfast senior clubs Rossa, St Johns & St Galls are trying to balance the demands of both ? With a few notable exceptions how many inter county hurlers are regularly produced from the South West Antrim clubs ? This is not just a Belfast problem.

A serious debate is required about whether dual clubs splitting our meagre resources has any future in the progression of Gaelic games in general and hurling in particular in Antrim and if trying to accommodate both hurling and football leagues that don't clash is really helping anyone in the longer term. We are facing a tough future and we need to be able to take tough decisions together. Loughgeil, Cushendall, Kilkenny, Donegal, Tryone, Kerry etc show the way i.e. Concentrate on one code and have a chance at success.The dual counties and 'super clubs' of Cork and Dublin are the exceptions that prove the rule and a winning dual club/ county is becoming even more of an exception.

We face lots of problems e.g. no county ground or a centre of excellence for our development teams, ( just look at the embarrassing situation of Inadequate pitches for the Antrim cup games with Kilkenny and Dublin at UUJ never mind the Casement debacle) under resourced coaching structures, lack of funding and sponsorship for our county teams, schools participation and coaching that is decades behind successful counties etc etc. These are the real challenges we need to face together and whatever the  strategy devised we need to commit to doing something or we will keep getting similar results while other counties overtake us in these areas.

Again - not much to disagree with - but I don't think wither the original posters were "blaming" the City clubs. The problems exist - but they are not necessarily caused by Belfast clubs at all.
We can all agree on that. And equally to resolve them cannot be done in the City alone.
I've always made the point about Belfast being more prone to the dual codes - and you are entirely right in that.
Wouldn't St Galls Rossa St Johns etc love the luxury of only preparing for one championship at a time like Cargin or Loughgiel! Even those in those clubs must acknowledge the huge advantage they have in this repsect.
That said - where do we (everyone) go from the current predicament?
It's not about blame, it's about recognising the issues, and doing something about it. (again everyone).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2015, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?

We live in a rain infested country thats the bother lol there isnt many pitches that can take that sort of rain and not be cut up. Last thurs night both pitches were flooded after a massive down pour which left surface water all over it. Maybe if games were played earlier in the season we wouldnt be playing big games in soggy pitches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?

I'm totally bowled over by the issue you're making about this two hands. I really don't get it.

A pitch can be unplayable one day and playable the next ... you do know this?  Sounds like you don't. Good job others do.

The rain the previous weekend from the early hours of Sunday morning was biblical. There was 3 matches played on it between then and the Championship games last Sunday and there was one last night since. The pitch was clearly playable and has not shown any signs of damage since the double header on Sunday.

You do know that even the likes of Casement has been unplayable in the past after heavy overnight rain?

You do know that teams play hurling in the winter on much softer pitches? Will you be consistent with this 'unfair' to both teams 'logic'?

I think you're the one who needs to re-calibrate their logic. Making an issue where there wasn't one on the day and claiming stupidity in the decision making to stage the games there. Of course given enough games in Dunloy, you'll be proved right eventually  :-\ (a stopped clock springs to mind)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?

I'm totally bowled over by the issue you're making about this two hands. I really don't get it.

A pitch can be unplayable one day and playable the next ... you do know this?  Sounds like you don't. Good job others do.

The rain the previous weekend from the early hours of Sunday morning was biblical. There was 3 matches played on it between then and the Championship games last Sunday and there was one last night since. The pitch was clearly playable and has not shown any signs of damage since the double header on Sunday.

You do know that even the likes of Casement has been unplayable in the past after heavy overnight rain?

You do know that teams play hurling in the winter on much softer pitches? Will you be consistent with this 'unfair' to both teams 'logic'?

I think you're the one who needs to re-calibrate their logic. Making an issue where there wasn't one on the day and claiming stupidity in the decision making to stage the games there. Of course given enough games in Dunloy, you'll be proved right eventually  :-\ (a stopped clock springs to mind)

Sure we all headed down to Cushendall when Antrim played Tipp a few years ago!! what a wash out that day ..... and that was for NHL game ffs!!  It happens, not just in Dunloy but everywhere (well maybe not our pitch)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 02, 2015, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on September 02, 2015, 09:27:01 AM
I think the reasons for Antrims current standing in the hurling world have been well documented on this board and they are many and varied, but I'm trying very hard to get my head around the blame (even partially) being laid at the door of Belfast clubs while we are supposedly relying on the usual North Antrim clubs for player development. How many North Antrim clubs burden themselves by developing football players to inter county standard ? How many North Antrim clubs have senior dual players and how many play Div 1 football and hurling while the 3 Belfast senior clubs Rossa, St Johns & St Galls are trying to balance the demands of both ? With a few notable exceptions how many inter county hurlers are regularly produced from the South West Antrim clubs ? This is not just a Belfast problem.

A serious debate is required about whether dual clubs splitting our meagre resources has any future in the progression of Gaelic games in general and hurling in particular in Antrim and if trying to accommodate both hurling and football leagues that don't clash is really helping anyone in the longer term. We are facing a tough future and we need to be able to take tough decisions together. Loughgeil, Cushendall, Kilkenny, Donegal, Tryone, Kerry etc show the way i.e. Concentrate on one code and have a chance at success.The dual counties and 'super clubs' of Cork and Dublin are the exceptions that prove the rule and a winning dual club/ county is becoming even more of an exception.

We face lots of problems e.g. no county ground or a centre of excellence for our development teams, ( just look at the embarrassing situation of Inadequate pitches for the Antrim cup games with Kilkenny and Dublin at UUJ never mind the Casement debacle) under resourced coaching structures, lack of funding and sponsorship for our county teams, schools participation and coaching that is decades behind successful counties etc etc. These are the real challenges we need to face together and whatever the  strategy devised we need to commit to doing something or we will keep getting similar results while other counties overtake us in these areas.

Again - not much to disagree with - but I don't think wither the original posters were "blaming" the City clubs. The problems exist - but they are not necessarily caused by Belfast clubs at all.
We can all agree on that. And equally to resolve them cannot be done in the City alone.
I've always made the point about Belfast being more prone to the dual codes - and you are entirely right in that.
Wouldn't St Galls Rossa St Johns etc love the luxury of only preparing for one championship at a time like Cargin or Loughgiel! Even those in those clubs must acknowledge the huge advantage they have in this repsect.
That said - where do we (everyone) go from the current predicament?
It's not about blame, it's about recognising the issues, and doing something about it. (again everyone).
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2015, 01:56:14 PM
i found it insulting when you consider the amount of money our club spent after that wash out last year to drain that pitch to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Put it this way, had it not been done neither of those games would of taken place on sunday at all. as i said previously on thurs night it was a swimming pool and for it to get to Sunday and be playable was down to that. Also yet more money was spent to dig hundreds of meters of drainage a few weeks ago to take all the surface water around the grounds to the nearby stream.

Unlike other clubs we don't permit any kind of training on that pitch no matter the game coming up so as to ensure we have a top quality playing surface for everyone who comes to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on September 02, 2015, 01:57:30 PM
One solution
Regional development Schools (for all player standards, not just elite)

I'm now living in the US, my son plays the ground ball. New York Red Bulls have set up a structure where the have about 20 RDS operating in the NJ area. The kids go, are placed according to ability, and then go through a 12 week development program.

This actually helps the local clubs, (e.g a number of your team goes to a RDS, where they receive superior technical training along with kids of other local clubs)

I believe that one way to improve the standard of hurling across clubs is to set this kind of development structure, so instead of county development teams, we should set up a club development program focusing on player development of both county and non county standard hurlers, develop everybody, give all clubs the opportunity to participate and within ten years, the standard should improve

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?

I'm totally bowled over by the issue you're making about this two hands. I really don't get it.

A pitch can be unplayable one day and playable the next ... you do know this?  Sounds like you don't. Good job others do.

The rain the previous weekend from the early hours of Sunday morning was biblical. There was 3 matches played on it between then and the Championship games last Sunday and there was one last night since. The pitch was clearly playable and has not shown any signs of damage since the double header on Sunday.

You do know that even the likes of Casement has been unplayable in the past after heavy overnight rain?

You do know that teams play hurling in the winter on much softer pitches? Will you be consistent with this 'unfair' to both teams 'logic'?

I think you're the one who needs to re-calibrate their logic. Making an issue where there wasn't one on the day and claiming stupidity in the decision making to stage the games there. Of course given enough games in Dunloy, you'll be proved right eventually  :-\ (a stopped clock springs to mind)

Sure we all headed down to Cushendall when Antrim played Tipp a few years ago!! what a wash out that day ..... and that was for NHL game ffs!!  It happens, not just in Dunloy but everywhere (well maybe not our pitch)
it even snowed. But we just cant legislate for weather or condition of pitches, no matter where in Ireland.  Maybe Shinners will get us an EU grant and build a conservatory over the country?

But then all us croppy bois would have to pay their salaries some other way. Why are we croppies so gulable letting ourselves be exlpoited and abused by Shinners, CB, UC ?  Time for a call to action, shaft the whole bloody lot of them I say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 02, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2015, 01:56:14 PM
i found it insulting when you consider the amount of money our club spent after that wash out last year to drain that pitch to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Put it this way, had it not been done neither of those games would of taken place on sunday at all. as i said previously on thurs night it was a swimming pool and for it to get to Sunday and be playable was down to that. Also yet more money was spent to dig hundreds of meters of drainage a few weeks ago to take all the surface water around the grounds to the nearby stream.

Unlike other clubs we don't permit any kind of training on that pitch no matter the game coming up so as to ensure we have a top quality playing surface for everyone who comes to it.

The two best games of the weekend were played in Dunloy.  The pitch was not an issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
The point I'm making is that the County Board should know that in advance that pitches might be soft and should have continuency plans in place so that double headers don't take place on that pitch. Is that understandable??

I appreciate a lot of money has been spent on the pitch. Yous should calm down boys
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 02, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 02, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2015, 01:56:14 PM
i found it insulting when you consider the amount of money our club spent after that wash out last year to drain that pitch to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Put it this way, had it not been done neither of those games would of taken place on sunday at all. as i said previously on thurs night it was a swimming pool and for it to get to Sunday and be playable was down to that. Also yet more money was spent to dig hundreds of meters of drainage a few weeks ago to take all the surface water around the grounds to the nearby stream.

Unlike other clubs we don't permit any kind of training on that pitch no matter the game coming up so as to ensure we have a top quality playing surface for everyone who comes to it.

The two best games of the weekend were played in Dunloy.  The pitch was not an issue.

I hope that the next one in a weeks time is just as good!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 02, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 02, 2015, 01:56:14 PM
i found it insulting when you consider the amount of money our club spent after that wash out last year to drain that pitch to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Put it this way, had it not been done neither of those games would of taken place on sunday at all. as i said previously on thurs night it was a swimming pool and for it to get to Sunday and be playable was down to that. Also yet more money was spent to dig hundreds of meters of drainage a few weeks ago to take all the surface water around the grounds to the nearby stream.

Unlike other clubs we don't permit any kind of training on that pitch no matter the game coming up so as to ensure we have a top quality playing surface for everyone who comes to it.

The two best games of the weekend were played in Dunloy.  The pitch was not an issue.

I hope that the next one in a weeks time is just as good!

We'll all be up checking the grass, 'does it take a stud?' !!! either or the rain is here to stay and its the same for both.. just be happy that your clubs are getting these games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
The point I'm making is that the County Board should know that in advance that pitches might be soft and should have continuency plans in place so that double headers don't take place on that pitch. Is that understandable??

I appreciate a lot of money has been spent on the pitch. Yous should calm down boys

Maybe you should 'pour water' over your words two hands, then you wouldnt get the responses they deserve

QuoteFinally, to have the match in Dunloy on a pitch that has a history of being wet was pathetic from the County board especially with a double header. Not fair on all 4 teams.

Dunloy was a bog last night and its quite often like that. I'd rather go to Armoy than Dunloy.

Playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
The point I'm making is that the County Board should know that in advance that pitches might be soft and should have continuency plans in place so that double headers don't take place on that pitch. Is that understandable??

I appreciate a lot of money has been spent on the pitch. Yous should calm down boys

Maybe you should 'pour water' over your words two hands, then you wouldnt get the responses they deserve

QuoteFinally, to have the match in Dunloy on a pitch that has a history of being wet was pathetic from the County board especially with a double header. Not fair on all 4 teams.

Dunloy was a bog last night and its quite often like that. I'd rather go to Armoy than Dunloy.

Playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity
I already said calling it a big was harsh on my point. But my issue was with the county board.
Anyway I'm sure it'll be grand for the semi final   :D
I'll not mention it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on September 02, 2015, 03:54:56 PM
Paddy McNaughton soon to be back in cushendall? Could he be a boost for the cushendall squad or will he have lost his touch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 02, 2015, 05:23:16 PM
Any truth that Shane Mc Naughton is out for the year with injury?  i thought he finished the match on Sunday.  Maybe just rumors that always seem to appear around this time of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 02, 2015, 08:07:14 PM
Two hands, you're bang out of order.

Trying to have a cheap go at CB volunteers by insulting a fellow Gael club's pitch is a poor show.
You should reflect on your overall attitude to the GAA and the people in it.

Well done Dunloy for allowing use of their pitch and also for stewarding it.
DR, don't lower yourself...
'Nuff said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 02, 2015, 08:07:14 PM
Two hands, you're bang out of order.  Hes no better or worse than the rest of us, we are all culpable!

Trying to have a cheap go at CB volunteers by insulting a fellow Gael club's pitch is a poor show.
You should reflect on your overall attitude to the GAA and the people in it.

Well done Dunloy for allowing use of their pitch and also for stewarding it.
DR, don't lower yourself...
'Nuff said.
'Nuff' said,  very interesting from a newbie? I'm not fooled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 02, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2015, 11:17:22 AM
Bog may have been harsh but you'd have to admit that playing a double header on a pitch that was pretty soft in places would be bordering on stupidity, especially when Dunloy had to move their league match last weekend.
Fair enough this was not Dunloys decision to hold the 2 matches there but I think it's unfair on the 4 teams involved. Surely you can see the logic in that?

I'm totally bowled over by the issue you're making about this two hands. I really don't get it.

A pitch can be unplayable one day and playable the next ... you do know this?  Sounds like you don't. Good job others do.

The rain the previous weekend from the early hours of Sunday morning was biblical. There was 3 matches played on it between then and the Championship games last Sunday and there was one last night since. The pitch was clearly playable and has not shown any signs of damage since the double header on Sunday.

You do know that even the likes of Casement has been unplayable in the past after heavy overnight rain?

You do know that teams play hurling in the winter on much softer pitches? Will you be consistent with this 'unfair' to both teams 'logic'?

I think you're the one who needs to re-calibrate their logic. Making an issue where there wasn't one on the day and claiming stupidity in the decision making to stage the games there. Of course given enough games in Dunloy, you'll be proved right eventually  :-\ (a stopped clock springs to mind)

Sure we all headed down to Cushendall when Antrim played Tipp a few years ago!! what a wash out that day ..... and that was for NHL game ffs!!  It happens, not just in Dunloy but everywhere (well maybe not our pitch)
it even snowed. But we just cant legislate for weather or condition of pitches, no matter where in Ireland.  Maybe Shinners will get us an EU grant and build a conservatory over the country?

But then all us croppy bois would have to pay their salaries some other way. Why are we croppies so gulable letting ourselves be exlpoited and abused by Shinners, CB, UC ?  Time for a call to action, shaft the whole bloody lot of them I say!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 02, 2015, 09:59:54 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 02, 2015, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 02, 2015, 08:07:14 PM
Two hands, you're bang out of order.  Hes no better or worse than the rest of us, we are all culpable!

Trying to have a cheap go at CB volunteers by insulting a fellow Gael club's pitch is a poor show.
You should reflect on your overall attitude to the GAA and the people in it.

Well done Dunloy for allowing use of their pitch and also for stewarding it.
DR, don't lower yourself...
'Nuff said.
'Nuff' said,  very interesting from a newbie? I'm not fooled.

but you are a fool...  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 03, 2015, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 02, 2015, 10:13:53 PM
Talking to yourself Geteven?
Nah, just responding to the meaningless crap that is peddalled by you and other insignificant Trolls.  You and others offer nothing but dispair and perpetual negativity. Come the day of reckoning you'll see who is at the coalface, "times they are for changing" dont ya just love Dillon.  Enough, back to work bois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 03, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Any all Ireland tickets floating about?? Worth a try  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 12:59:26 PM
Surely Loughgiel with the strongest group of hurlers is awash with tickets from all their county players? 

Oh thats right .... how could I forget !!  ::)  ;)

Maybe next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
Spotted this discussion on the Laois forum and thought Id post it here

You wouldn't get these discussions in an Antrim forum

Quote from: blueandwhite1 on August 31, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
Anyone have the results from the weekend? Saw some U15 ones that didn't look too bad but it seems that we got an awful hammering by KK in the Tony Forristal. This is really very very disappointing to be this far behind in development at U14 level. Kilkenny, Tipp, Cork, Waterford all take this tournament very seriously and play their best players. To be beaten by 20 or 30 points over 2 x 15 or 20 minute halves asks many questions about how effective our underage programs really are. How could the skills gaps be so severe for kids so young?


Quote from: redsetanta on August 31, 2015, 05:01:38 PM
Yeh, they really struggled by the looks of those scorlines. Only scored 7 points in 2 games and conceded 51(goals and points combined)

They won't be able to stay in the A competition with performances like that.

Very disappointing alright.

Quote from: beano on September 01, 2015, 09:19:24 PM

Lads, we have to up our game with the underage, I think after a few relatively "successful" years at minor we were becoming complacent thinking the work is being done- clearly from last weekend it isn't.

One wish that I have for next year that there is a big drive on for the U21s. This is an age group that Laois should target to do well in. WE had a decent minor team in 2013 plus this age group has a better potential to bring players through to senior level.

Quote from: blueandwhite1 on September 02, 2015, 07:38:39 PM
You are spot on beano. However, I think by U21 it is way too late. 

No point in calling it a crisis in 7 years time when our U14s are being hammered as U21s. We need to be developing our U8s-U12s to be AT LEAST AS GOOD as Kilkenny. I think the big difference right now is that we are doing great work with county development squads but the school and club level development is still not good enough. In many clubs, the lads looking after underage development don't have what it takes. In KK for example, a significant proportion of underage coaches are former Kilkenny hurlers - not so in Laois.

It requires plenty of money, focus and being honest with ourselves in terms of development performance. Right now I think we measure success by the existence of the setanta and other programs but not by the endpoints such as the scoring difference when we play A-grade counties. Yes, we are not Kilkenny but there are other smaller counties such as Clare, Wexford and Waterford that are able to develop competitive underage teams with a limited number of clubs to draw from. I think we have been clapping ourselves on the back from beating very poor Offaly teams over recent years rather then focusing on what has gone wrong against KK at minor level for the last number of years.

One thing I have observed is that the clubs seem to be relying on the county to produce their underage 'stars'. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Yes, there have been improvements, to be fair. However, most of us want us to be winning and there is evidence that we have stopped improving.

Quote from: merman on September 02, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Jesus blueandwhite1, I'd have to say I disagree with a lot of that to be honest.

I think a lot of the progress over the last number of years has been fuelled by the clubs, not the county board. Yes, the Setanta programme has been a success but I would contend that it is not on the same trajectory it was 3/4 years ago. I think our county standards have slipped but our club structures are far above what they were.

Our U12 teams have done very well down in Kilkenny this summer; we have been very competitive in most divisions. Our Cumann na mBunscol teams have excelled at Leinster Blitzes over the last 2 years and these are young lads with little or probably no engagement with the county. I know a lot of clubs are now running their own Saturday blitzes at U8-U12 grade because they don't feel they are getting enough opportunities within our county. I don't think the clubs would take kindly to a suggestion that they are sitting back and letting the county produce their stars. I'd say their frustration is that they are not seeing the same emphasis replicated up the line.

I've seen a fair bit of our U12 League/Championship this summer and the standard is excellent. I think only Portlaoise are unbeaten with loads of teams taking points off each other; great for competition. I would be extremely hopeful that they will mature into a very nice team in a couple of years but maybe they won't.
We have to remember where we are coming from. We wont have brilliant crops of youngsters every year, no more than other developing counties will. The results at the weekend were disappointing but we probably all know 3/4 hurlers from these age groups who have the potential to come through and impact at a higher level and that's not a bad baseline for our development squads. Yes, we'd all love to see us competing regularly with the elite counties but that doesn't just happen over-night...

Pat Critchley has indicated that he would like to start back at Setanta Level and I believe that would be a good step. I also understand our Laois GDAs are planning to hit our primary schools a little harder and primary-school players will be invited to coaching sessions once or twice a month. Again, this is catching them at a younger age and can only help. This is where the money comes in as if Croke Park is serious about seeing a real and tangible revival in Laois Hurling then they should be releasing funds to put Pat back on secondment from Scoil Chriost Rí and putting 2 more GDAs to work alongside our current two. Now, that is something we should be fighting very hard for. And don't think the funds aren't there after the recent deluge of high-profile Draws!

I also don't think too many of us have gotten carried away with 'back-clapping' after beating Offaly; I actually think that's unfair. Teams don't just go from being 5th/6th best in Leinster to contesting against the Kilkennys or Galways of this world. It takes time and we could be looking at 5-10 years before we are in a realistic position where we can 'expect' to make a real breakthrough. This year's minor campaign frustrated me because we had a really strong bunch but they just didn't fire on the big day. Again, that will happen to teams and counties who haven't built up a bank of memories and experience at playing and beating teams at the top table.
Margins between success and failure are so fine that if we don't take some pleasure in beating our neighbours who have dominated us for years then what's the point in any of this...






Quote from: Podge72 on September 03, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
Good Post Merman

As a Tipp blow in to Laois who has lads playing u8,the structures are slowly coming together in Laois and the fruits won't be seen for another 15 years that's the reality.

What people also have to realize is Laois doesn't have the depth in terms yet of other counties,for example in u12 in Laois you have 3 divisions in the North division in Tipp you have 5 divisions.

That said it's great to see the likes of Portarlington and Slieve Margy playing hurling,there should be a target of getting another 2/3 underage teams set up and getting another underage set up into portlaoise,similar to what they have in thurles.

The U12's have been very competitive in the KK league with Abbeyleix winning it,that makes a huge difference as there seems to a belief in Laois that kk hurlers are a master race,which needs to dispelled at a young age

Kudos also to Abbeyleix who ran an u8 blitz last Saturday taking in the likes of Ballyhale and Kilcormac,from an outsider looking in they seem to being going about their underage business in the right way



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 03, 2015, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
Spotted this discussion on the Laois forum and thought Id post it here

You wouldn't get these discussions in an Antrim forum


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Was hoping that I might some report somewhere of how the Under 14/15/16s got on over the weekend at the various national tournaments but haven't come across any.

From the scorelines alone, it would appear the Under 15s "did best" out of the three groups - winning one, drawing another and losing two by small enough margins, the latter against teams that got to the final and semi final respectively.

It seems the Under 16s didn't perform to their full potential, which is a shame as they seem to be a promising enough group.

Internally, the North Antrim underage initiatives look promising but as always, Belfast seems to be a desert (at least on a divisional level) although I see both Rossa and the Johnnies won their respective divisions in the Mullinahone tournament.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 03, 2015, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
Spotted this discussion on the Laois forum and thought Id post it here

You wouldn't get these discussions in an Antrim forum



Was hoping that I might some report somewhere of how the Under 14/15/16s got on over the weekend at the various national tournaments but haven't come across any.

From the scorelines alone, it would appear the Under 15s "did best" out of the three groups - winning one, drawing another and losing two by small enough margins, the latter against teams that got to the final and semi final respectively.

It seems the Under 16s didn't perform to their full potential, which is a shame as they seem to be a promising enough group.

Internally, the North Antrim underage initiatives look promising but as always, Belfast seems to be a desert (at least on a divisional level) although I see both Rossa and the Johnnies won their respective divisions in the Mullinahone tournament.
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Absolute nonsense.

Belfast teams continually win underage leagues and championships - and overwhelmingly represented and underage squads for the county. Always have been.

It's just no longer the case at senior and hasn't been for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 03, 2015, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 03, 2015, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
Spotted this discussion on the Laois forum and thought Id post it here

You wouldn't get these discussions in an Antrim forum



Was hoping that I might some report somewhere of how the Under 14/15/16s got on over the weekend at the various national tournaments but haven't come across any.

From the scorelines alone, it would appear the Under 15s "did best" out of the three groups - winning one, drawing another and losing two by small enough margins, the latter against teams that got to the final and semi final respectively.

It seems the Under 16s didn't perform to their full potential, which is a shame as they seem to be a promising enough group.

Internally, the North Antrim underage initiatives look promising but as always, Belfast seems to be a desert (at least on a divisional level) although I see both Rossa and the Johnnies won their respective divisions in the Mullinahone tournament.

Absolute nonsense.

Belfast teams continually win underage leagues and championships - and overwhelmingly represented and underage squads for the county. Always have been.

It's just no longer the case at senior and hasn't been for a while.
[/quote]

You are missing the point I was trying to make, although I accept the language could have been better.

Its not that individual Belfast teams are not strong (Rossa and the Johnnies have always been strong, clubs like Davitts etc appear to be making progress), its more there appears (to a Culchie like me) a lack of divisional structure in Belfast (leading, for example, to St Enda's coming into North Antrim). I am only going on what I hear and read, but I read somewhere that while there was a year long primary schools football league, the hurling was run off in a one day blitz.

Where I said North Antrim was taking the initiative, I meant in terms of the regular group coaching sessions, trips to Kilkenny, Festival of Hurling etc on a divisional basis. To my knowledge, none of that is happening in Belfast. While individual clubs are of course the fundamental key, surely the coming together (occasionally) on a broader level can only improve standards across the board and help keep people (players and mentors) engaged?

At the various blitzes last weekend, a number of the counties had more than one team participating (e.g. Wexford North, Wexford South). If we got our act together (I know, I know), there is no reason why we couldn't put in a Belfast team and a "rest of Antrim" team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 03, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!
Ooohh Petal, and you belive your postings and/or contributions are so rivetting, enlightening, appealiing and of interest.  These guys you refer to are the eyes and ears of whats happening and how and when it happens. Like the press they tell it as it is, how are we to find truth otherwise?

Now just sit down Tulip, be a good boi and go read AndyTown/NB News, Fanity Fair or something with a nice cup of tea.  You"ll feel much better Petal after reading that stuff.  Free speech and freedom of expression are alive and well, but hurry DUP, Shinners; CB and UC may soon curtail the rite for all us Croppies to openly express ourselves.  Relax Petal, better now?


Lets face it boi, we are all WUMs, messers, assh**es, mixers, stirrers, dickh***s, but lets not take ourselves too seriously. A bit if craic, antagonistic debate, slegging never killed anyone or lost or won a championship!  Lets take real comfort in the fact that anything we contribute here is not going to shake up the world or change our status in Antrim. We are all falble, human, culpable.  But on the day of reckoning, I would say some of us (not all of us) will be there to put the shoulder behind the wheel.  The sooner that day comes the better, for all our sakes. But even if we have our new stadium, good football and hurling teams, good structures and administration, you and your like will still be an asshol*, a cretin, a WUM, but ya know what, life will go on. Cest la Vie!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 04:28:05 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Cloot I'm not saying south Antrim are the most successful body - but the true picture of divisional boards is more complex / varied in recent times.
For example - I don't believe endas / rossa / johnnies should be in NA leagues. They should be all-county leagues.
And when these clubs did join - they were initially tasked with playing all games away from home!
A ridiculous insular move by NA which hardly had the good of the whole county (particularly kids) at heart.
These teams felt they had no option but to leave SA leagues due to the small number of teams - in truth the county as whole should (and did) take ownership eventually.
By the way the disparity wasn't just a SA thing - Derry teams were also "propping up" so called NA Leagues which also had huge differences in teams levels like SA. There became a NA leagues in name only before the county took ownership anyway. So hardly a cause for comparing NA to SA.

Bear in mind again the football element run in SA not NA and you will see the divisional board slant doesn't really hold water - although I will almost contradict myself and say SA Board has huge improvements to make.

We've too many clubs in Belfast - we need better organisation - better coaching and facilities - all true!
But any notion of a "desert" in Belfast and a hurling oasis above Ballymena carrying the rest isn't a fair reflection.

Speaking to NA people they also talk of a decline in numbers and standards - and club amalgamations.
After all - the proof is in the pudding - look at our county senior hurling team - the manifestation of issues around the whole county.

Like I say - it's a whole county and wider solution needed - not finger pointing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
You need the right amount of raw material in the form of interested adults prepared to make well understood structures work. We are full of cracks, but that's not to take away from anyone who's trying their best to make Antrim hurling as strong as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2015, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!

Mainly done div 3 and under age this year and you've obviously not heard me talk about or seem my numerous rants about the county board... But sure post your post, means nowt to me whether its under 12 or south Antrim beer belly league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Cloot I'm not saying south Antrim are the most successful body - but the true picture of divisional boards is more complex / varied in recent times.
For example - I don't believe endas / rossa / johnnies should be in NA leagues. They should be all-county leagues.
And when these clubs did join - they were initially tasked with playing all games away from home!
A ridiculous insular move by NA which hardly had the good of the whole county (particularly kids) at heart.
These teams felt they had no option but to leave SA leagues due to the small number of teams - in truth the county as whole should (and did) take ownership eventually.
By the way the disparity wasn't just a SA thing - Derry teams were also "propping up" so called NA Leagues which also had huge differences in teams levels like SA. There became a NA leagues in name only before the county took ownership anyway. So hardly a cause for comparing NA to SA.

Bear in mind again the football element run in SA not NA and you will see the divisional board slant doesn't really hold water - although I will almost contradict myself and say SA Board has huge improvements to make.

We've too many clubs in Belfast - we need better organisation - better coaching and facilities - all true!
But any notion of a "desert" in Belfast and a hurling oasis above Ballymena carrying the rest isn't a fair reflection.

Speaking to NA people they also talk of a decline in numbers and standards - and club amalgamations.
After all - the proof is in the pudding - look at our county senior hurling team - the manifestation of issues around the whole county.

Like I say - it's a whole county and wider solution needed - not finger pointing.

This may sound stupid, but IMO there aren't too many clubs in Belfast when in comes to underage where the youngsters should be exposed to hurling and football in equal measure, week about, BUT there are probably too many clubs in Belfast when it comes to adult hurling to seriously compete at senior level due to the spread in resources.
From being involved with my own clubs underage setups, it seems that the regular blitzes are a bit haphazard in Belfast, but more regular in North Antrim, even the Derry set up is more controlled by their fulltime coaches as they centralise theirs in Owenbeg once a month (IIRC) and its controlled by Kevin Hinphey.

Currently the Down set up is a mess with clubs regularly pulling out of hosting the blitzes and its the same old same olds who run them!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 04, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
my oldest nephew is just started P6. Each and every weekend he would appear at mine (generally wanting to go to McDonalds or similar food outlet!) and i would ask what hes at this weekend.

The response is always the same - hurling training, football training, hurling match, football match. Thats all he does and he loves it but what it shows to me is that our kids are constantly getting to train, play and learn in our area at least which is great.

Im sure theres loads of other clubs the same who are constantly playing all the time. I see a blitz ran there the other week in dunloy on the sat morning, serious amount of kids and teams all playing matches. I stopped into watch a bit and i couldnt help but smile and laugh as one of the teams scored a goal and they all ran celebrating.

You would hope that these kids get this all the time in antrim and that they dont have long periods of not playing games or training. I can honestly say that our academy is bearing the fruits now when you see our current crop of kids that are about. All our kids should be getting that chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Cloot I'm not saying south Antrim are the most successful body - but the true picture of divisional boards is more complex / varied in recent times.
For example - I don't believe endas / rossa / johnnies should be in NA leagues. They should be all-county leagues.
And when these clubs did join - they were initially tasked with playing all games away from home!
A ridiculous insular move by NA which hardly had the good of the whole county (particularly kids) at heart.
These teams felt they had no option but to leave SA leagues due to the small number of teams - in truth the county as whole should (and did) take ownership eventually.
By the way the disparity wasn't just a SA thing - Derry teams were also "propping up" so called NA Leagues which also had huge differences in teams levels like SA. There became a NA leagues in name only before the county took ownership anyway. So hardly a cause for comparing NA to SA.

Bear in mind again the football element run in SA not NA and you will see the divisional board slant doesn't really hold water - although I will almost contradict myself and say SA Board has huge improvements to make.

We've too many clubs in Belfast - we need better organisation - better coaching and facilities - all true!
But any notion of a "desert" in Belfast and a hurling oasis above Ballymena carrying the rest isn't a fair reflection.

Speaking to NA people they also talk of a decline in numbers and standards - and club amalgamations.
After all - the proof is in the pudding - look at our county senior hurling team - the manifestation of issues around the whole county.

Like I say - it's a whole county and wider solution needed - not finger pointing.

This may sound stupid, but IMO there aren't too many clubs in Belfast when in comes to underage where the youngsters should be exposed to hurling and football in equal measure, week about, BUT there are probably too many clubs in Belfast when it comes to adult hurling to seriously compete at senior level due to the spread in resources.
From being involved with my own clubs underage setups, it seems that the regular blitzes are a bit haphazard in Belfast, but more regular in North Antrim, even the Derry set up is more controlled by their fulltime coaches as they centralise theirs in Owenbeg once a month (IIRC) and its controlled by Kevin Hinphey.

Currently the Down set up is a mess with clubs regularly pulling out of hosting the blitzes and its the same old same olds who run them!

Well Feck you, You'll not be invited to our club one then  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Cloot I'm not saying south Antrim are the most successful body - but the true picture of divisional boards is more complex / varied in recent times.
For example - I don't believe endas / rossa / johnnies should be in NA leagues. They should be all-county leagues.
And when these clubs did join - they were initially tasked with playing all games away from home!
A ridiculous insular move by NA which hardly had the good of the whole county (particularly kids) at heart.
These teams felt they had no option but to leave SA leagues due to the small number of teams - in truth the county as whole should (and did) take ownership eventually.
By the way the disparity wasn't just a SA thing - Derry teams were also "propping up" so called NA Leagues which also had huge differences in teams levels like SA. There became a NA leagues in name only before the county took ownership anyway. So hardly a cause for comparing NA to SA.

Bear in mind again the football element run in SA not NA and you will see the divisional board slant doesn't really hold water - although I will almost contradict myself and say SA Board has huge improvements to make.

We've too many clubs in Belfast - we need better organisation - better coaching and facilities - all true!
But any notion of a "desert" in Belfast and a hurling oasis above Ballymena carrying the rest isn't a fair reflection.

Speaking to NA people they also talk of a decline in numbers and standards - and club amalgamations.
After all - the proof is in the pudding - look at our county senior hurling team - the manifestation of issues around the whole county.

Like I say - it's a whole county and wider solution needed - not finger pointing.

This may sound stupid, but IMO there aren't too many clubs in Belfast when in comes to underage where the youngsters should be exposed to hurling and football in equal measure, week about, BUT there are probably too many clubs in Belfast when it comes to adult hurling to seriously compete at senior level due to the spread in resources.
From being involved with my own clubs underage setups, it seems that the regular blitzes are a bit haphazard in Belfast, but more regular in North Antrim, even the Derry set up is more controlled by their fulltime coaches as they centralise theirs in Owenbeg once a month (IIRC) and its controlled by Kevin Hinphey.

Currently the Down set up is a mess with clubs regularly pulling out of hosting the blitzes and its the same old same olds who run them!

Well Feck you, You'll not be invited to our club one then  >:(

When is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 11:13:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2015, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 04, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 03, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Cloot I'm not saying south Antrim are the most successful body - but the true picture of divisional boards is more complex / varied in recent times.
For example - I don't believe endas / rossa / johnnies should be in NA leagues. They should be all-county leagues.
And when these clubs did join - they were initially tasked with playing all games away from home!
A ridiculous insular move by NA which hardly had the good of the whole county (particularly kids) at heart.
These teams felt they had no option but to leave SA leagues due to the small number of teams - in truth the county as whole should (and did) take ownership eventually.
By the way the disparity wasn't just a SA thing - Derry teams were also "propping up" so called NA Leagues which also had huge differences in teams levels like SA. There became a NA leagues in name only before the county took ownership anyway. So hardly a cause for comparing NA to SA.

Bear in mind again the football element run in SA not NA and you will see the divisional board slant doesn't really hold water - although I will almost contradict myself and say SA Board has huge improvements to make.

We've too many clubs in Belfast - we need better organisation - better coaching and facilities - all true!
But any notion of a "desert" in Belfast and a hurling oasis above Ballymena carrying the rest isn't a fair reflection.

Speaking to NA people they also talk of a decline in numbers and standards - and club amalgamations.
After all - the proof is in the pudding - look at our county senior hurling team - the manifestation of issues around the whole county.

Like I say - it's a whole county and wider solution needed - not finger pointing.

This may sound stupid, but IMO there aren't too many clubs in Belfast when in comes to underage where the youngsters should be exposed to hurling and football in equal measure, week about, BUT there are probably too many clubs in Belfast when it comes to adult hurling to seriously compete at senior level due to the spread in resources.
From being involved with my own clubs underage setups, it seems that the regular blitzes are a bit haphazard in Belfast, but more regular in North Antrim, even the Derry set up is more controlled by their fulltime coaches as they centralise theirs in Owenbeg once a month (IIRC) and its controlled by Kevin Hinphey.

Currently the Down set up is a mess with clubs regularly pulling out of hosting the blitzes and its the same old same olds who run them!

Well Feck you, You'll not be invited to our club one then  >:(

When is it?

Sheehan tournament... I normally referee them every year but I was in England this time round. Your lads normally do well, held usually week after Mayday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 11:30:39 AM
Yes Johnny - there's loads of blitzes etc in Belfast - they are run through various Club tournaments rather than Centralised however. Perhaps the Club men have found they are better at that job rather than SA Board?!

Your point being that there's not too many clubs at underage but there is at senior?
If this was true - How could it possibly be rectified?
Tell certain clubs there are only allowed to exist until minor - then all their players have to go elsewhere? That's just nuts.

In truth - The current problem is that there are too many clubs when the kids start. Just look at the number of Clubs who can no longer field at younger age groups!
Some don't field in hurling - so the kids are lost to the sport.
Some amalgamate due to lack of numbers - this raises issues with identity and cohesion (including discipline) and so we lose the players.
Also, when a lad does keep at it up until say U16 or minor - then his club doesn't field - he stops playing rather than transfer to a "bigger" club. End result = players lost.

In truth, I know of barely any Belfast gaels who don't appreciate the problem of too many Clubs.
But none, myself included, know of a solution.
The very fact that we have the continual stream of losing players (due to the points above never mind 'other' issues) as they go up age groups proves the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 04, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
A few of the issues for me are, clubs are now considered leisure centres even with families with a gaa background. So trips to watch Celtic or other such shite or clearing off to the caravan for the summer etc always take priority.
The most important thing for me however is the standard of coaching coupled with the ability to engage and motivate youngsters in greater belfast is barring a few exceptions is piss poor. The numbers of coaches available contributes to this but isnt the only reason. Until we improve the standard of our offering then this is as good as it gets or worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 04:30:15 PM
Article on dual player issues fom Tipp minor hurling manager Liam Cahill

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/liam-cahill-dual-stars-can-grasp-shot-at-double-351798.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/liam-cahill-dual-stars-can-grasp-shot-at-double-351798.html)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 04, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
Any word on nominees for senior hurling post?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!
?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2015, 12:59:26 PM
Surely Loughgiel with the strongest group of hurlers is awash with tickets from all their county players? 

Oh thats right .... how could I forget !!  ::)  ;)

Maybe next year
Aye, indeed. Maybe if they're selected they'll get a run out and a few tickets.  Sure who knows, Antrim might even win a game.  ;)

Tickets are available if you know where to look. Not many hurling fans West of Lough Neagh.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 07:24:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 11:30:39 AM

In truth - The current problem is that there are too many clubs when the kids start. Just look at the number of Clubs who can no longer field at younger age groups!
Some don't field in hurling - so the kids are lost to the sport.
Some amalgamate due to lack of numbers - this raises issues with identity and cohesion (including discipline) and so we lose the players.
Also, when a lad does keep at it up until say U16 or minor - then his club doesn't field - he stops playing rather than transfer to a "bigger" club. End result = players lost.

In truth, I know of barely any Belfast gaels who don't appreciate the problem of too many Clubs.
But none, myself included, know of a solution.
The very fact that we have the continual stream of losing players (due to the points above never mind 'other' issues) as they go up age groups proves the case.

Could I suggest btdtgtt that the reason why so many kids are lost might be due to poor coaching (not enough adults with enough interest and know how)? Kids (and parents) will hang around if the right investment is made at younger agegroups.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
To be honest skull - while that's possible for some kids - it's most certainly not the main reason for youngsters dropping out in the city.
Rossa St Johns St Endas and a certain St Galls age level have fantastic coaches doing great things - but they'll still lose kids. Sarsfields at the youngest ages are putting in a huge effort with good men involved - they will also lose kids.
Sure some clubs struggle for quality coaches - but as I say with 100% certainty it's not the main reason for drop outs by a long shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
To be honest skull - while that's possible for some kids - it's most certainly not the main reason for youngsters dropping out in the city.
Rossa St Johns St Endas and a certain St Galls age level have fantastic coaches doing great things - but they'll still lose kids. Sarsfields at the youngest ages are putting in a huge effort with good men involved - they will also lose kids.
Sure some clubs struggle for quality coaches - but as I say with 100% certainty it's not the main reason for drop outs by a long shot.

I think its a major factor. You can spot teams at U14 that have been coached better than others at U8/10/12

I don't think any club (group of mentors) who can develop a team that is competitive within their agegroup will lose or has lost 'too many' players. When they're getting beat out the gate, some of the capricious kids/parents will find another pastimes/clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 04, 2015, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
To be honest skull - while that's possible for some kids - it's most certainly not the main reason for youngsters dropping out in the city.
Rossa St Johns St Endas and a certain St Galls age level have fantastic coaches doing great things - but they'll still lose kids. Sarsfields at the youngest ages are putting in a huge effort with good men involved - they will also lose kids.
Sure some clubs struggle for quality coaches - but as I say with 100% certainty it's not the main reason for drop outs by a long shot.

I think its a major factor. You can spot teams at U14 that have been coached better than others at U8/10/12

I don't think any club (group of mentors) who can develop a team that is competitive within their agegroup will lose or has lost 'too many' players. When they're getting beat out the gate, some of the capricious kids/parents will find another pastimes/clubs
Totally agree if the quality is there, players will stay. I know we have lost a lot of ground in the last few years and is down to mostly the quality of coaching. During Niall Kearneys tenure as NA Chairman there was great work done in coaching development, there was an entusiastic cohort of people who sacraficed a lot of time to develop themselves by taking every opportunity presented. You couldnt get our coaches to go to a coaching course these days and our recent juvenile achievements reflect this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 05, 2015, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
To be honest skull - while that's possible for some kids - it's most certainly not the main reason for youngsters dropping out in the city.
Rossa St Johns St Endas and a certain St Galls age level have fantastic coaches doing great things - but they'll still lose kids. Sarsfields at the youngest ages are putting in a huge effort with good men involved - they will also lose kids.
Sure some clubs struggle for quality coaches - but as I say with 100% certainty it's not the main reason for drop outs by a long shot.

I think its a major factor. You can spot teams at U14 that have been coached better than others at U8/10/12

I don't think any club (group of mentors) who can develop a team that is competitive within their agegroup will lose or has lost 'too many' players. When they're getting beat out the gate, some of the capricious kids/parents will find another pastimes/clubs

I've seen countless (city) teams win all in front of them at every age group - and all but a few drop off before senior grade.
They were well coached - they had success - and still never made it.

And that's even after the ones that dropped off because of our original too many clubs issue!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
You're conflating two very different issues. Coaching standard/commitment is separate from what you're talking about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 05, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
I don't think we can compare what goes on in Belfast at underage with what happens in NA. They are two completely different dynamics for young lads/ladies growing up. For example, schools over on a Friday. A child in Lgiel has limited options as to what he's going to spend his time doing over the weekend. Whereas in Belfast the opportunities/distractions are wide and varied. So the child in Lgiel spends all wknd with a hurl in his/her hand, child in Belfast might play a bit but he/she has so many other options. This is an obvious point but I think we need to recognise that the challenge of underage coaching in Belfast is more difficult because of this. It might not be the quality of the coaching that needs to improve we need to think outside the box here I think and try something different. Unfortunately I don't know what the answer is!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 06, 2015, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: cfclg on September 05, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
I don't think we can compare what goes on in Belfast at underage with what happens in NA. They are two completely different dynamics for young lads/ladies growing up. For example, schools over on a Friday. A child in Lgiel has limited options as to what he's going to spend his time doing over the weekend. Whereas in Belfast the opportunities/distractions are wide and varied. So the child in Lgiel spends all wknd with a hurl in his/her hand, child in Belfast might play a bit but he/she has so many other options. This is an obvious point but I think we need to recognise that the challenge of underage coaching in Belfast is more difficult because of this. It might not be the quality of the coaching that needs to improve we need to think outside the box here I think and try something different. Unfortunately I don't know what the answer is!
[/quot] probably the best and imost ntelligent appreciation of a historical poiblem we face with young people in the city in terms of GAA and not just hurling.

City kids have many alternative options and distractions which in many cases are unhealthy. Againt this background you can only admire the commitment, resilience and desire of NA hurling clubsl. This is the very essence of their greater standing, style and achievements on the hurling front. Clearly this is what seperates SA hurling and NA, dedication, focus and commited resource to the hurling code.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 06, 2015, 10:16:08 AM
probably the best and most intelligent appreciation of a historical problem we face with young people in the city, in terms of GAA and not just hurling.

City kids have many alternative options and distractions which in many cases are unhealthy. Against this background you can only admire the commitment, resilience and desire of NA hurling clubs. This is the very essence of their greater standing, style and achievements on the hurling front. Clearly this is what separates SA hurling and NA, dedication, focus and committed resource to the hurling code.


Good luck to the Tribesmen today, probably their best chance today of turning Kilkenny over.  Keys, wallet, tickets, soup & sandwiches - all check, I'm off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2015, 05:22:16 PM
What a machine Kilkenny are. Less than one hundred thousand of a population and rattling out all Irelands as if there's no tomorrow. Isn't it amazing what belief and camaraderie can bring?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 06, 2015, 06:25:08 PM
It seems physicality and in your face confrontational hurling is not enough to beat Kilkenny.  Tipp, Cork, Limerick, Clare and Galway have all tried and continue to fail.  Certainly thought Galway in the first half were savage intense but lost their way early in 2nd half.  Credit where credit is due, Cody is clearly an exceptional man.  Got the first part of my double up with Galway minors, but Joe , Johnny, Iarla and Co, let me down on the 2nd leg.  Well maybe next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2015, 08:25:00 PM
And they all keep narrowing the field. Year in, year out. Hard to beat a couple of good old fashioned corner forwards hugging the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 07, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 05, 2015, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 04, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 04, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
To be honest skull - while that's possible for some kids - it's most certainly not the main reason for youngsters dropping out in the city.
Rossa St Johns St Endas and a certain St Galls age level have fantastic coaches doing great things - but they'll still lose kids. Sarsfields at the youngest ages are putting in a huge effort with good men involved - they will also lose kids.
Sure some clubs struggle for quality coaches - but as I say with 100% certainty it's not the main reason for drop outs by a long shot.

I think its a major factor. You can spot teams at U14 that have been coached better than others at U8/10/12

I don't think any club (group of mentors) who can develop a team that is competitive within their agegroup will lose or has lost 'too many' players. When they're getting beat out the gate, some of the capricious kids/parents will find another pastimes/clubs

I've seen countless (city) teams win all in front of them at every age group - and all but a few drop off before senior grade.
They were well coached - they had success - and still never made it.

And that's even after the ones that dropped off because of our original too many clubs issue!

btdtgtt,

     I don't think you should confuse winning underage titles to being necessarily coached well, plus teams used to winning sometimes struggle to make the leap into adult hurling when winning isn't just as easy, not to mention all the other distractions.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2015, 09:34:54 AM
Quote from: cfclg on September 05, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
I don't think we can compare what goes on in Belfast at underage with what happens in NA. They are two completely different dynamics for young lads/ladies growing up. For example, schools over on a Friday. A child in Lgiel has limited options as to what he's going to spend his time doing over the weekend. Whereas in Belfast the opportunities/distractions are wide and varied. So the child in Lgiel spends all wknd with a hurl in his/her hand, child in Belfast might play a bit but he/she has so many other options. This is an obvious point but I think we need to recognise that the challenge of underage coaching in Belfast is more difficult because of this. It might not be the quality of the coaching that needs to improve we need to think outside the box here I think and try something different. Unfortunately I don't know what the answer is!

+1

Kilkenny eh?
I guess the young lads down there have no problems being motivated to commit to hurling!
Lets hope "next year" for Waterford!

Agree fully JC - but don't think underage success in the City wasn't from good coaching either. Much of it was - and is.

We're all kind of getting at the same point - the reasons behind City drop-off is many issues - but the level of coaching is not the main one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
Kilkenny are a machine, they won the all ireland without being really tested in any of the matches they played. They just keep churning them out over and over.

A joy to watch them play. Felt sorry for Galway fans more so yday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
Kilkenny are a machine, they won the all ireland without being really tested in any of the matches they played. They just keep churning them out over and over.

A joy to watch them play. Felt sorry for Galway fans more so yday

Ant thoughts on the All-Ireland structure as part of the bigger picture?
Tipp people feel winning Munster left them a long time without a game so they were caught cold against Galway.
How many top level games did Kilkenny win to capture an All-Ireland?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 07, 2015, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 07, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
Kilkenny are a machine, they won the all ireland without being really tested in any of the matches they played. They just keep churning them out over and over.

A joy to watch them play. Felt sorry for Galway fans more so yday

Ant thoughts on the All-Ireland structure as part of the bigger picture?
Tipp people feel winning Munster left them a long time without a game so they were caught cold against Galway.
How many top level games did Kilkenny win to capture an All-Ireland?
They do get an easy passage through Leinster partly due to the demise of Offaly and Wexford
It's means they can peak at the right time
Tipp where rusty v Galway and where trying to scrape through for a final
Hats of to Kilkenny you just can't argue with their record but a bit more resistance earlier in the year in Leinster woukd make it more intresting
I think the hurling this year has been poor and nobody gave the cats a good 70 minutes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2015, 12:21:16 PM
Galway and Dublin are in Leinster too though

Kilkenny face the same problem as Tipp did this year pretty much every year with the wait. They're pretty much as challenged in Leinster as they are anywhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 07, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
Kilkenny are a machine, they won the all ireland without being really tested in any of the matches they played. They just keep churning them out over and over.

A joy to watch them play. Felt sorry for Galway fans more so yday

Ant thoughts on the All-Ireland structure as part of the bigger picture?
Tipp people feel winning Munster left them a long time without a game so they were caught cold against Galway.
How many top level games did Kilkenny win to capture an All-Ireland?

Leinster on paper should be competitive when you have Wexford, Dublin and Galway in there so in effect Kilkenny should get good games. Truth is they didnt, they did what they did yday in the second half and they turned the screw on teams and won the game.

Lets be honest, it wasnt a great championship this year and a lot of the big teams didnt play particularly well. Clare, Waterford, Cork etc all under performed this summer. Offaly and wexford didnt count, Tipp didnt play to their potential in the semi final against galway. One player kept them in the match and rest didnt show.

Kilkenny have a good working formula and they keep doing it well. If its not broke etc. What they do have is a brilliant structure in the schools where all the kids play. its hurling first and foremost. Not gaelic, soccer, rugby etc its hurling and thats all they care for.

I have friends in Thurles and he wont allow his children to ever buy a soccer shirt, its a foreign game he told me. They play hurling and camogie, thats their game. They had a family birthday party at the house the last time i was there and there was kids from Cork, Clare, Limerick and Tipp. Each and every one of the (boys and girls) all played county hurling and camogie thru development squads etc. each one turned up to the party with a stick and ball! i was amazed by it. They have a different love of the game imo.

I always find it patronizing when they say 'here its good to see you all keeping the hurling going up there in antrim' but the truth is that we are doing just that. The limerick county chairman was at that party and told me it straight how it was. It was harsh but true. We do enough and thats it, but were strangled by our limitations in numbers and distance from good quality handy games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Anyone going to call the result of Ballycastle v Dunloy?  Tough one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 08, 2015, 09:54:40 AM
I think the town are going to finally take a major cship scalp and put Dunloy to the sword. Won't win it though, but a final spot could be seen as some sort of progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2015, 10:19:23 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 10:35:46 AM
It's hard to call as it was last year. Ballycastle have had a bit of upheaval with the change of management but I think they shade it slightly with regards to squad. I think it will come down to the old cliché - who wants it most?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 08, 2015, 10:53:19 AM
No BS etc etc

But really cant see past a Loughgiel v Dunloy Final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2015, 11:08:55 AM
Loughgiel will have that bit extra for Cdall. Their experience should see them over the line.

Our game, God. It can go either way IMO. Have to go with the heart and say another tight game and a 2 point win.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Anyone going to call the result of Ballycastle v Dunloy?  Tough one.
dunloy by 5 or 6 points, the other one is hard to call. But looking forward to a weekends hurling. May the best two teams win. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 08, 2015, 08:55:07 PM
They are hard matches to call. I do fancy Dunloy on Sat and i'm not sure about Sunday, alot could depend on the Dall's injuries I suppose. I'm sure all 4 are training hard and fancy their chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!

It was St. Galls - Nipper Quinn semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!

It was St. Galls - Nipper Quinn semi.

St Johns played paddies first, followed by Rossa v Galls. Good hurlers on every team but still plenty of time for development ( which is lost on some people at the first sign of competition).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 08, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
Town to win by 2 and Loughgiel by 6. 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!

It was St. Galls - Nipper Quinn semi.

St Johns played paddies first, followed by Rossa v Galls. Good hurlers on every team but still plenty of time for development ( which is lost on some people at the first sign of competition).

My bad! Blame phone instead of my precious mac!
Any idea on when the final is?
Is there a plate type competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2015, 11:26:17 PM
Plenty of 'Timmy Ryans' watching was there btdtgtt?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
I had to google that skull?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 09, 2015, 07:55:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!

It was St. Galls - Nipper Quinn semi.

St Johns played paddies first, followed by Rossa v Galls. Good hurlers on every team but still plenty of time for development ( which is lost on some people at the first sign of competition).

My bad! Blame phone instead of my precious mac!
Any idea on when the final is?
Is there a plate type competition?

Sunday 1pm at Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2015, 08:12:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 11:36:09 PM
I had to google that skull?!

Aww god love ye  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Anyone going to call the result of Ballycastle v Dunloy?  Tough one.
dunloy by 5 or 6 points, the other one is hard to call. But looking forward to a weekends hurling. May the best two teams win.

SG bound to be happy with the appointment of the ref for the weekends game  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2015, 01:38:06 PM
Here we go.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 09, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 08, 2015, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
Anyone going to call the result of Ballycastle v Dunloy?  Tough one.
dunloy by 5 or 6 points, the other one is hard to call. But looking forward to a weekends hurling. May the best two teams win.

SG bound to be happy with the appointment of the ref for the weekends game  ;)

Two good referees for the weekend, shouldn't be any complaints from either camp
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 09, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Was on Dunloy's pitch tonight. Great nick. Roll on the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 09, 2015, 08:41:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Was on Dunloy's pitch tonight. Great nick. Roll on the weekend.
Happy days   :D  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2015, 09:03:20 PM
If you're happy, we're happy  :)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 09, 2015, 09:05:01 PM
Hopefully no rain between now and then  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
Just some light rain

http://m.bbc.co.uk/weather/2656488/day3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 09, 2015, 10:14:34 PM
Can't say We are happy about the ref MR2 the perception of Mark in all the NA clubs is that he rolls over when listening to the red ill bred hill!! But I will say as a person he's a nice lad. On Collie , I haven't really seen enough of him to comment. But I really hope it doesn't come down to the Ref that we hurl the way we can( but haven't done so this far) and Loughgiel are beatable although it will be a big ask, we can do it. Dunloy for the other Semi by by 4, the Dall by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 09, 2015, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2015, 09:03:20 PM
If you're happy, we're happy  :)
Well no double header on the pitch makes sense!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2015, 10:27:23 PM
Who's in/out for the Dall Shams game?

Can't call the other either - am i being unfair saying that's more because Dunloy's stock has fallen that the Town's risen?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2015, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 09, 2015, 10:27:23 PM
Who's in/out for the Dall Shams game?

Can't call the other either - am i being unfair saying that's more because Dunloy's stock has fallen that the Town's risen?

Evidence?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 09, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Nothing empirical - just my impression - which is why i asked was I being unfair.

Maybe both teams league results aren't what they used to be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 09, 2015, 10:14:34 PM
Can't say We are happy about the ref MR2 the perception of Mark in all the NA clubs is that he rolls over when listening to the red ill bred hill!! But I will say as a person he's a nice lad. On Collie , I haven't really seen enough of him to comment. But I really hope it doesn't come down to the Ref that we hurl the way we can( but haven't done so this far) and Loughgiel are beatable although it will be a big ask, we can do it. Dunloy for the other Semi by by 4, the Dall by 2.

Well some people will never be happy even if they picked the ref themselves....think the game will be one way traffic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 09, 2015, 11:56:06 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 09, 2015, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 09, 2015, 07:55:10 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 08, 2015, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2015, 09:12:16 PM
Here's hoping we get two great games!

My nephew hurls U12 for Rossa so called in to a game against St John's this evening.
Some really fantastic wee players and teams obviously well coached with ex-seniors on the line.
Both teams won recently in Tipperary.
Still some parents with slightly too much to say (maybe just because of the clubs rivalry)
But great way to spend and evening did the heart & soul good!

It was St. Galls - Nipper Quinn semi.

St Johns played paddies first, followed by Rossa v Galls. Good hurlers on every team but still plenty of time for development ( which is lost on some people at the first sign of competition).

My bad! Blame phone instead of my precious mac!
Any idea on when the final is?
Is there a plate type competition?

Sunday 1pm at Rossa

Do you have a young lad playing with Rossa Gizzy?

yeah, just hurling away with the 8's & 10's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 09, 2015, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 09, 2015, 10:14:34 PM
Can't say We are happy about the ref MR2 the perception of Mark in all the NA clubs is that he rolls over when listening to the red ill bred hill!! But I will say as a person he's a nice lad. On Collie , I haven't really seen enough of him to comment. But I really hope it doesn't come down to the Ref that we hurl the way we can( but haven't done so this far) and Loughgiel are beatable although it will be a big ask, we can do it. Dunloy for the other Semi by by 4, the Dall by 2.

Well some people will never be happy even if they picked the ref themselves....think the game will be one way traffic

must be stuck for refs at minute, ya wanna seen the one in falls park tonight mr2, do ya know him  ;D, only slegging. You must have pissed some1 off to be given that game lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 01:58:56 AM
I was at the Davitts v Aggies game tonight, the ref (whoever he was) done a decent job despite the level.  Sometimes these games are the most difficult to ref.

There are some real whingers playing lower grade hurling, thats for sure

Just ventured up to the park to walk the dog. Why don't some people not pick up their dog shit, bloody disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2015, 02:31:01 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 01:58:56 AM
I was at the Davitts v Aggies game tonight, the ref (whoever he was) done a decent job despite the level.  Sometimes these games are the most difficult to ref.

There are some real whingers playing lower grade hurling, thats for sure

Just ventured up to the park to walk the dog. Why don't some people not pick up their dog shit, bloody disgrace.

jesus if i had of knew u were there i would have finally got to know who u were, next time wear somthing i can distinguish you bye sure and we can have a natter. Some real whingers at that level for sure but not any more than the divisions above, the difference being not many whingers at that level have a fooking clue about the rules
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 06:35:02 AM
Just look for someone who's lifting his dogs "business"

That should narrow it down a fair bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Was on Dunloy's pitch tonight. Great nick. Roll on the weekend.

i know, we have all the turf cut from it that was there from the previous game hence why she was such a bog  ;D lol

Aye its in good shape, its been closed up and cut since the Cdall game so its in perfect nick for sundays big match. Hopefully the rain stays away for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 09:22:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 09, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Nothing empirical - just my impression - which is why i asked was I being unfair.

Maybe both teams league results aren't what they used to be?

Our league results at the start of the season were poor enough, recently they have picked up. Squad is the same from last season so we havent lost anyone who was starting. Liam Richmond is the only one who has called it a day from the team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 09, 2015, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 09, 2015, 10:14:34 PM
Can't say We are happy about the ref MR2 the perception of Mark in all the NA clubs is that he rolls over when listening to the red ill bred hill!! But I will say as a person he's a nice lad. On Collie , I haven't really seen enough of him to comment. But I really hope it doesn't come down to the Ref that we hurl the way we can( but haven't done so this far) and Loughgiel are beatable although it will be a big ask, we can do it. Dunloy for the other Semi by by 4, the Dall by 2.

Well some people will never be happy even if they picked the ref themselves....think the game will be one way traffic

must be stuck for refs at minute, ya wanna seen the one in falls park tonight mr2, do ya know him  ;D, only slegging. You must have pissed some1 off to be given that game lol

I do all levels, I'm not picky!! Listen it moved along nicely until final five minutes!! Hey that's how it goes... How Davitts beat them I championship must be a mystery
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
MR2 maybe you have the red tinted goggles on. Yes Loughgiel are favorites and yes Loughgiel are the form team this year but I doubt it'll be one way traffic. We haven't had much of a season so far due to a terrible injury list that has included many of our best players. However in my opinion we are the team best equipped to give Loughgiel a game and we are the county champions. Have Loughgiel peaked too early? Can we lift our game given poor league form? Answers on Sunday!!! In the other game I fancy the Town to finally take a big scalp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 06:35:02 AM
Just look for someone who's lifting his dogs "business"

That should narrow it down a fair bit
Correct Skull, that be me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 10:41:43 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
MR2 maybe you have the red tinted goggles on. Yes Loughgiel are favorites and yes Loughgiel are the form team this year but I doubt it'll be one way traffic. We haven't had much of a season so far due to a terrible injury list that has included many of our best players. However in my opinion we are the team best equipped to give Loughgiel a game and we are the county champions. Have Loughgiel peaked too early? Can we lift our game given poor league form? Answers on Sunday!!! In the other game I fancy the Town to finally take a big scalp.

I really don't recall many times, in many years, that top teams meet in championship - and it's one-way traffic.
Cant see this game being anything other than close all the way.

Same goes for both semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 10:44:25 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
MR2 maybe you have the red tinted goggles on. Yes Loughgiel are favorites and yes Loughgiel are the form team this year but I doubt it'll be one way traffic. We haven't had much of a season so far due to a terrible injury list that has included many of our best players. However in my opinion we are the team best equipped to give Loughgiel a game and we are the county champions. Have Loughgiel peaked too early? Can we lift our game given poor league form? Answers on Sunday!!! In the other game I fancy the Town to finally take a big scalp.

I'm on the wind up!!! no way will there be one way traffic like the final of a few years ago in Ballycastle, that wont ever happen again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 10, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Was on Dunloy's pitch tonight. Great nick. Roll on the weekend.

i know, we have all the turf cut from it that was there from the previous game hence why she was such a bog  ;D lol

Aye its in good shape, its been closed up and cut since the Cdall game so its in perfect nick for sundays big match. Hopefully the rain stays away for it.

Did we check for habitat living in all the hether and bodies from 900 BC
Let's call this weekend '' men in the bog''
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
jeez lads why do yous bite to this.

it my be one traffic like it was a couple of years ago or like it was over the previous 20 odd years before that manys a time

but one thing is for sure we (and L'giel) will give it our all, if we get hammered will will be back next year doing the same again, just like every other team.

Heres hoping for two good games in which the refs don't spoil them   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
jeez lads why do yous bite to this.

it my be one traffic like it was a couple of years ago or like it was over the previous 20 odd years before that manys a time

but one thing is for sure we (and L'giel) will give it our all, if we get hammered will will be back next year doing the same again, just like every other team.

Heres hoping for two good games in which the refs don't spoil them   ;)

I'd say feck the referees and just get the Bishop to throw the ball in, then we can't blame the referee, who would we blame then if someone lost the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 10, 2015, 12:08:33 PM
I think it will be a Loughgiel v Ballycastle final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
if ballycastle get to the final will it still be played at their home ground?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 10, 2015, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
if ballycastle get to the final will it still be played at their home ground?

If we are lucky enough to get through on Saturday, I would say the final will be in Dunloy. Could also be in Cushendall if Loughgiel beat Cushendall, or Loughgiels pitch for the final if Cushendall beat the shams (can't see that happening)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 10, 2015, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
if ballycastle get to the final will it still be played at their home ground?

If we are lucky enough to get through on Saturday, I would say the final will be in Dunloy. Could also be in Cushendall if Loughgiel beat Cushendall, or Loughgiels pitch for the final if Cushendall beat the shams (can't see that happening)

Some pressure on Loughgiel, I suppose that it's like every year, can take a hop of a ball or a slip to decide some games... Best 4 teams in the semis this year so no excuses, games should be intense and nervous for the fans
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 10, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
2 really exciting games to look forward to this weekend. i think the town may have enough up front to trouble Dunloy's defence, and i think Cushendall can beat loughgiel if they come with the same work rate as last year, so for what it is worth i think that it will be a Ballycastle v Cushendall final.
Ballycastle by 3 points
Cushendall by 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!

Have wee all gone mad ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Lets hope a player doesn't fluff his lines when going in on goal or a goal keeper drop one into the net or a player strike another player and get sent off, or a short pass/miss pass or had the shits the night before!!!!!! sooo many things that can make a difference !!

I know you jest  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!

Have wee all gone mad ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Lets hope a player doesn't fluff his lines when going in on goal or a goal keeper drop one into the net or a player strike another player and get sent off, or a short pass/miss pass or had the shits the night before!!!!!! sooo many things that can make a difference !!

I know you jest  ;D

Indeed MR2 - all of those things are easier for a team to accept!
They made the mistake so they deserved to get beat.

But if a Ref makes a mistake - then a team is beat "unfairly" from a factor beyond their control!
It's much harder to take!

I'm not slating refs - just saying I hope it doesn't happen!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!

Have wee all gone mad ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Lets hope a player doesn't fluff his lines when going in on goal or a goal keeper drop one into the net or a player strike another player and get sent off, or a short pass/miss pass or had the shits the night before!!!!!! sooo many things that can make a difference !!

I know you jest  ;D

Indeed MR2 - all of those things are easier for a team to accept!
They made the mistake so they deserved to get beat.

But if a Ref makes a mistake - then a team is beat "unfairly" from a factor beyond their control!
It's much harder to take!

I'm not slating refs - just saying I hope it doesn't happen!


So the one mistake that he makes against the other multitude of  mistakes over the course of 60 plus minutes by players and management will in effect be the undoing of a team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 10, 2015, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

Excellent lol. +1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 01:59:04 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 10, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
2 really exciting games to look forward to this weekend. i think the town may have enough up front to trouble Dunloy's defence, and i think Cushendall can beat loughgiel if they come with the same work rate as last year, so for what it is worth i think that it will be a Ballycastle v Cushendall final.
Ballycastle by 3 points
Cushendall by 2 points

If anything that would be our strongest part of the team and one i wouldnt have any worries on. Its more up front and getting the scores other than shorty doing all the work is my worry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

;D ;D ;D add to that the injustice of PJ not being on the side line, well that assuming he hasnt appealed it again  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!

Have wee all gone mad ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Lets hope a player doesn't fluff his lines when going in on goal or a goal keeper drop one into the net or a player strike another player and get sent off, or a short pass/miss pass or had the shits the night before!!!!!! sooo many things that can make a difference !!

I know you jest  ;D

Indeed MR2 - all of those things are easier for a team to accept!
They made the mistake so they deserved to get beat.

But if a Ref makes a mistake - then a team is beat "unfairly" from a factor beyond their control!
It's much harder to take!

I'm not slating refs - just saying I hope it doesn't happen!


So the one mistake that he makes against the other multitude of  mistakes over the course of 60 plus minutes by players and management will in effect be the undoing of a team?

The mistakes made by the players are easy to accept - you make mistakes you lose.
Mistakes made by Refs are hard to accept - someone else caused you to lose.
It's really simple I don't know what your issue is.

What's the issue with PJ being on the line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
Dall will give it all despite injuries indiscipline etc. Any word of KR making a cameo appearance on behalf of his beloved Cushedall, or will the expenses not stretch from Waterford to Dall?

Either way, lets hope its a good passionate and physical game and both teams restoring some pride back in the county.  Thank god we are not on for  a Final mis-match like last years, diabolical stuff.  Any thoughts on Portaferry or Slaughtniel bringing about another upset?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

;D ;D ;D add to that the injustice of PJ not being on the side line, well that assuming he hasnt appealed it again  :-X

I am sure that Mark will miss (if he isnt on the line) the customary pat on the back and words of advice on how to referee the game every time a LG player is on the ground  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

;D ;D ;D add to that the injustice of PJ not being on the side line, well that assuming he hasnt appealed it again  :-X
;D This has been kept very quiet..surprised nothing has been said on here for the last couple of weeks about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 10, 2015, 02:12:22 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
Dall will give it all despite injuries indiscipline etc. Any word of KR making a cameo appearance on behalf of his beloved Cushedall, or will the expenses not stretch from Waterford to Dall?

Either way, lets hope its a good passionate and physical game and both teams restoring some pride back in the county.  Thank god we are not on for  a Final mis-match like last years, diabolical stuff.  Any thoughts on Portaferry or Slaughtniel bringing about another upset?

Ports have their own domestic issues to sort out before they worry about the Antrim or Derry champions  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
jeez lads why do yous bite to this.

it my be one traffic like it was a couple of years ago or like it was over the previous 20 odd years before that manys a time

but one thing is for sure we (and L'giel) will give it our all, if we get hammered will will be back next year doing the same again, just like every other team.

Heres hoping for two good games in which the refs don't spoil them   ;)

I'd say feck the referees and just get the Bishop to throw the ball in, then we can't blame the referee, who would we blame then if someone lost the game?

just to clarify, i said spoil a game, not blame for losing etc, i know you don't seemed to comprehend this but a ref can and has spoiled many a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 10, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

;D ;D ;D add to that the injustice of PJ not being on the side line, well that assuming he hasnt appealed it again  :-X
;D This has been kept very quiet..surprised nothing has been said on here for the last couple of weeks about it

What is the story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
SIE knows everything, he should know...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
i heard about it a few weeks ago and said nothing cause it was still an ongoing issue. He appealed it to get on the line for the Galls match but was supposed to be up last night again with it (??) so he could be on the line again for the semi. Im not sure what the outcome was.

put it this way, he acted pretty badly towards a ref before, during and after the game and he got reported for it. its not his first time at this carry on either. No manners whatsoever towards officials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
jeez lads why do yous bite to this.

it my be one traffic like it was a couple of years ago or like it was over the previous 20 odd years before that manys a time

but one thing is for sure we (and L'giel) will give it our all, if we get hammered will will be back next year doing the same again, just like every other team.

Heres hoping for two good games in which the refs don't spoil them   ;)

I'd say feck the referees and just get the Bishop to throw the ball in, then we can't blame the referee, who would we blame then if someone lost the game?

just to clarify, i said spoil a game, not blame for losing etc, i know you don't seemed to comprehend this but a ref can and has spoiled many a game.

Look I have played senior for the club for over 25 years, I've lost plenty games, 99% have been due to us playing crap!! a very small percentage of those games were lost by the referee adding things up wrong or a player being unfairly sent off (in my view) or a free being given by a referee at the death in many games!! ..... but to be fair the close run games should have been won far earlier than they needed to be.. mistakes by the line (myself included when managing) and players generally caused defeat.. I accept that players like the referee didn't intend to have a bad day at the office but it happens.. you make your own luck with hard work, hopefully Cushendall (and the rest) have put the effort in this year as they do every year and may the best team win.

I can at least come at this from all sides, player manager and now official, since refereeing and watching club games I see plenty calls that I'd have a different view on, yellow/red/note/free or whatever but until someone comes up with a better way of officiating games then we are stuck with what we have and no referee will ever keep everyone happy..

I'm sounding like a broken record!!!  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 10, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!

Told you someone would need binoculars!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 03:31:55 PM
Ive always believed that blaming a ref for a defeat is the sign of a bad team/manager. They get calls wrong, it happens. I did an U14 game once and was amazed at how much goes on and how much you cant see. Imagine what a senior game is like!

Haha its not for me but i can appreciate that its impossible to see everything, esp if its on the wrong side of you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 03:31:55 PM
Ive always believed that blaming a ref for a defeat is the sign of a bad team/manager. They get calls wrong, it happens. I did an U14 game once and was amazed at how much goes on and how much you cant see. Imagine what a senior game is like!

Haha its not for me but i can appreciate that its impossible to see everything, esp if its on the wrong side of you!

Only the losers complain  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2015, 02:56:08 PM
SIE knows everything, he should know...
8) indeed I do know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 10, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 03, 2015, 02:03:58 PM
This thread is getting very boring and predictable.

You still have your annoying pr1cks (they don't need to be named).

MR2 - who has an opinion on everything but doesn't have the b@lls to criticise another ref if they have a poor game or the CB for fear of getting demoted to Div 4.

SIE - Same old, same old, playing down his teams chances of winning the championship, bla bla bla.  Don't know how LW got on the pitch against St Galls with SIE hanging from his @ss.
(PS - Is it true someone will need binoculars for the next round of the SHC. :-X :-) )

Everyone can talk all they want about St Johns being unlucky, Cushendall getting out of jail etc etc.

The result is determined by the score at the end of the game, not at half time or with 5 mins to go.

St Johns were flying, Cushendall's problems with injuries had been well enough documented, St Johns were coming to cause an upset - close but no cigar!

Told you someone would need binoculars!
Stuter, stutter, stutter!   Get a life pal."I talk to the trees thats why they took me away"   a yesterdays man eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 10, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2015, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 10, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Well from a board which touted Loughgiel as a procession all year suddenly Cushendall are being recognised as favoured defending champions!
SiE was right all along!
All adds to the excitement!
With so little to separate them - lets hope it's not a ref's call that makes the difference!
Loughgiel are the bookies favourites. Unbeaten all season, flying all year,hurt by last seasons defeat, beat the Dall twice this season, motivated by their Centenary year.
The Dall not in great form, carrying injuries to Graffin & Shane, young Burke out for the season, poor all season, lucky to beat St Johns,reports of a possible fall out very recently in the camp due to ill discipline I'm hearing??

Everything points to a Loughgiel victory
Cushendall to win pulling up  :D

;D ;D ;D add to that the injustice of PJ not being on the side line, well that assuming he hasnt appealed it again  :-X

I am sure that Mark will miss (if he isnt on the line) the customary pat on the back and words of advice on how to referee the game every time a LG player is on the ground  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
i heard about it a few weeks ago and said nothing cause it was still an ongoing issue. He appealed it to get on the line for the Galls match but was supposed to be up last night again with it (??) so he could be on the line again for the semi. Im not sure what the outcome was.

put it this way, he acted pretty badly towards a ref before, during and after the game and he got reported for it. its not his first time at this carry on either. No manners whatsoever towards officials.
Nothing like conjecture and speculation to get the tongues around the hills of Dunloy wagging, eh DR? Have you not a game of your own to worry about this weekend, or do yous think it's Already won?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:20:51 PM
Hardly a story to make anyone go

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47984000/jpg/_47984524_nora.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2015, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 10, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
i heard about it a few weeks ago and said nothing cause it was still an ongoing issue. He appealed it to get on the line for the Galls match but was supposed to be up last night again with it (??) so he could be on the line again for the semi. Im not sure what the outcome was.

put it this way, he acted pretty badly towards a ref before, during and after the game and he got reported for it. its not his first time at this carry on either. No manners whatsoever towards officials.
Nothing like conjecture and speculation to get the tongues around the hills of Dunloy wagging, eh DR? Have you not a game of your own to worry about this weekend, or do yous think it's Already won?  ;)

Conjecture nothing lad, as i said i heard about it weeks ago and said nothing. It came from the source itself as to what happened.

Its not even common knowledge our way any hows. Put it this way, i was chatting to a very staunch Lgiel man last night and he didnt even know about it!

Also if we win on sat i will be very happy and if we lose i wouldnt be overly shocked.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 04:38:10 PM
Remember fellas, you turn on a cell phone, a computer I know who and where you are. You just dont know who you are f****ng with now days!  We are all being watched ya know, and with Bobby S in the slammer in  Antrim, b]I havevn't gone away ya know[/b].  That stupid bitch Carol Ní C*****n as fcuked up again, telling more lies than Lance Armstrong!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
(http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/c=sq/s=w700/o=90/fh6r9t9SU2MvczG1Mrxc_Confused%20Ice%20Cube%20THUMB.jpg)

say wha?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
(http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/c=sq/s=w700/o=90/fh6r9t9SU2MvczG1Mrxc_Confused%20Ice%20Cube%20THUMB.jpg)

say wha?

During that game on Wed night in the Falls park there was 2 Dodgy looking characters that were completely off their tits!!! Hmmm, I wonder

Shiner from Davitts had to move my kit back in case they ran of with my trainers!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 10, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
jeez lads why do yous bite to this.

it my be one traffic like it was a couple of years ago or like it was over the previous 20 odd years before that manys a time

but one thing is for sure we (and L'giel) will give it our all, if we get hammered will will be back next year doing the same again, just like every other team.

Heres hoping for two good games in which the refs don't spoil them   ;)

I'd say feck the referees and just get the Bishop to throw the ball in, then we can't blame the referee, who would we blame then if someone lost the game?

just to clarify, i said spoil a game, not blame for losing etc, i know you don't seemed to comprehend this but a ref can and has spoiled many a game.

Look I have played senior for the club for over 25 years, I've lost plenty games, 99% have been due to us playing crap!! a very small percentage of those games were lost by the referee adding things up wrong or a player being unfairly sent off (in my view) or a free being given by a referee at the death in many games!! ..... but to be fair the close run games should have been won far earlier than they needed to be.. mistakes by the line (myself included when managing) and players generally caused defeat.. I accept that players like the referee didn't intend to have a bad day at the office but it happens.. you make your own luck with hard work, hopefully Cushendall (and the rest) have put the effort in this year as they do every year and may the best team win.

I can at least come at this from all sides, player manager and now official, since refereeing and watching club games I see plenty calls that I'd have a different view on, yellow/red/note/free or whatever but until someone comes up with a better way of officiating games then we are stuck with what we have and no referee will ever keep everyone happy..

I'm sounding like a broken record!!!  :P

ffs, are you not reading what i wrote   ::)

spoiling a game and causing one team to get beat are two fecking different things, i said SPOILING a game, what bit of do you not understand.

can you go over my last few post regarding this and read them properly please.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 04:51:26 PM
She (C NiC) makes Pablo Escobar look like a altar boy. Shinners have shafted us all over Casement.  Heavens above man!  Did ya see BS on the news yesterday with his Antrim shirt on, feckin ludicrous, never in Casement in his life and only time he had a hurley in his hand was to bate so wee unfortunate, under privledged young fella for a minor misdemeanor.

Jeasus are people are so gullable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 10, 2015, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
(http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/c=sq/s=w700/o=90/fh6r9t9SU2MvczG1Mrxc_Confused%20Ice%20Cube%20THUMB.jpg)

say wha?

During that game on Wed night in the Falls park there was 2 Dodgy looking characters that were completely off their tits!!! Hmmm, I wonder

Shiner from Davitts had to move my kit back in case they ran of with my trainers!!
Shinners tried to sell the trainers to them (tits) in the first place!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on September 10, 2015, 05:32:33 PM
Pity PJ isn't friendly with a high ranking CHC member who would keep his appeal on the back burner as was done for a high profile club manager last season...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2015, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
(http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/c=sq/s=w700/o=90/fh6r9t9SU2MvczG1Mrxc_Confused%20Ice%20Cube%20THUMB.jpg)

say wha?

During that game on Wed night in the Falls park there was 2 Dodgy looking characters that were completely off their tits!!! Hmmm, I wonder

Shiner from Davitts had to move my kit back in case they ran of with my trainers!!

Shiner must have been in a good mood cause the rest of the Davitts line were giving u bad manners lol. And only 2 dodgy looking characters in falls PK, proof the Refs are blinkered. I was playing and seen more than that ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2015, 08:15:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2015, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 10, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
(http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/c=sq/s=w700/o=90/fh6r9t9SU2MvczG1Mrxc_Confused%20Ice%20Cube%20THUMB.jpg)

say wha?

During that game on Wed night in the Falls park there was 2 Dodgy looking characters that were completely off their tits!!! Hmmm, I wonder

Shiner from Davitts had to move my kit back in case they ran of with my trainers!!

Shiner must have been in a good mood cause the rest of the Davitts line were giving u bad manners lol. And only 2 dodgy looking characters in falls PK, proof the Refs are blinkered. I was playing and seen more than that ;D

That's them being nice  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
Getevennotcross is a hoot. Get him his own show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.
probably need his ear defenders on instead if his hearing aids.  Just found out who MR2 is, decent sort by all accounts and takes no nonsense which is commendable. Good luck to all on Saturday and Sunday.  Just watch out for the dodgy shinners, all unemployed now, county gate may get a wooly face visit. But then there is always the smuggling, drug pedalling, diesel landering, sure to keep BS in his big house in Owen******h. Us lesser mortals just struggleand work on, bloody hell eh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.
probably need his ear defenders on instead if his hearing aids.  Just found out who MR2 is, decent sort by all accounts and takes no nonsense which is commendable. Good luck to all on Saturday and Sunday.  Just watch out for the dodgy shinners, all unemployed now, county gate may get a wooly face visit. But then there is always the smuggling, drug pedalling, diesel landering, sure to keep BS in his big house in Owen******h. Us lesser mortals just struggleand work on, bloody hell eh!

Change the record ffs

This is a hurling thread, you want to spout political rubbish there is a SF thread elsewhere am sure they would love to hear your ramblings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.
probably need his ear defenders on instead if his hearing aids. Just found out who MR2 is, decent sort by all accounts and takes no nonsense which is commendable. Good luck to all on Saturday and Sunday.  Just watch out for the dodgy shinners, all unemployed now, county gate may get a wooly face visit. But then there is always the smuggling, drug pedalling, diesel landering, sure to keep BS in his big house in Owen******h. Us lesser mortals just struggleand work on, bloody hell eh!

Proves what we all knew already. How little you follow club hurling in the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Exactly! Rumours and conjecture. A load a ballix.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.
probably need his ear defenders on instead if his hearing aids. Just found out who MR2 is, decent sort by all accounts and takes no nonsense which is commendable. Good luck to all on Saturday and Sunday.  Just watch out for the dodgy shinners, all unemployed now, county gate may get a wooly face visit. But then there is always the smuggling, drug pedalling, diesel landering, sure to keep BS in his big house in Owen******h. Us lesser mortals just struggleand work on, bloody hell eh!

Proves what we all knew already. How little you follow club hurling in the county.
hi Hockeystick, are you intimating MR2 is not a decent sort? Idont know the man personalot so not in a position to judge. You'd be surprised how much I know about the local club hurlng scene, dont ever under estimate! Played the game, coached the game, administered the game continue to watch Antrim club and county hurling on a regular basis, from Snr to Juvenile level.

Curb you manic ego man, theres room enough for all of us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Exactly! Rumours and conjecture. A load a ballix.  ;)
Rumour, inuendo and conjecture, its what keeps us breathing here, Only in Antrim! Thank hell its Friday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2015, 02:17:10 PM
Any how  :-\

Good luck to all teams this weekend, lets hope for 2 classic championship encounters that we can talk about for the right reasons all the way up to the final.

When you think of the quality of players on show this weekend from all 4 teams any perspective county manager should be looking and thinking of how to build a team/ squad out of what is in front of him this weekend.

And just for MR2 good luck to all the officials in all capacities.
probably need his ear defenders on instead if his hearing aids.  Just found out who MR2 is, decent sort by all accounts and takes no nonsense which is commendable. Good luck to all on Saturday and Sunday.  Just watch out for the dodgy shinners, all unemployed now, county gate may get a wooly face visit. But then there is always the smuggling, drug pedalling, diesel landering, sure to keep BS in his big house in Owen******h. Us lesser mortals just struggleand work on, bloody hell eh!

Change the record ffs

This is a hurling thread, you want to spout political rubbish there is a SF thread elsewhere am sure they would love to hear your ramblings.
Freedom of speech and expession, you should embrace it man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Exactly! Rumours and conjecture. A load a ballix.  ;)

Believe what you wish  ;) it wont make it false.

Anyway any chance you can sort the weather out for sat that it wont lash down on us in Lgiel! I hope it stays away for both games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Exactly! Rumours and conjecture. A load a ballix.  ;)

Believe what you wish  ;) it wont make it false.

Anyway any chance you can sort the weather out for sat that it wont lash down on us in Lgiel! I hope it stays away for both games!
You should be more concerned about you own paddock (bog), its forecast to piss down on Sunday. You see, I get around and I do listen Hockeystick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
Im going to go out personally on sat night a run a hose over it to ensure its into the arse and it means that both teams will play in a bog!  lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 11, 2015, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
Im going to go out personally on sat night a run a hose over it to ensure its into the arse and it means that both teams will play in a bog!  lol
He he he, good man DR, good to see you lightening up somewhat 😀.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.
Exactly! Rumours and conjecture. A load a ballix.  ;)

Believe what you wish  ;) it wont make it false.

Anyway any chance you can sort the weather out for sat that it wont lash down on us in Lgiel! I hope it stays away for both games!
it also doesn't make it True. The rain is to pour tonight into tomorrow evening until around the time the match is due you start then it's to fair up a bit. Sunday not too bad looking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2015, 09:25:39 PM
U10 CHAMPIONSHIP BLITZ at Dunloy called off tomorrow. Preemptive strike based on weather forecast. Hopefully senior games will go ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2015, 10:21:57 PM
Sad for the kids but credit forward planning and sure wee'uns might not enjoy hurling in a downpour!

Fair chance both semis could have 3points or less in them?
(ie) the poc of a ball!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2015, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2015, 10:21:57 PM
Sad for the kids but credit forward planning and sure wee'uns might not enjoy hurling in a downpour!

Fair chance both semis could have 3points or less in them?
(ie) the poc of a ball!

Move it to Casement during the week under lights weather to be a lot better from Monday on.... Oh wait
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2015, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2015, 10:21:57 PM
Sad for the kids but credit forward planning and sure wee'uns might not enjoy hurling in a downpour!

Fair chance both semis could have 3points or less in them?
(ie) the poc of a ball!

Move it to Casement during the week under lights weather to be a lot better from Monday on.... Oh wait
Bring a strimmer or two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
I'll happily carry that cross for a few more years FH  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:26:17 PM
Ah damn you Skull your such a team player!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2015, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:26:17 PM
Ah damn you Skull your such a team player!!!!

I thought there was more hype into the game last time, were most thought Ballycastle would win...Teams that do their talking on the pitch normally do well  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Hockeystick, ur amazing, a really enthralling and passionate analysis, I just cant wait until you get your CAP journalist posting.  Exhilarating stuff man, your talents know no bounds! (NOT)

Dont forget to bring all your old Toicfaidh Armanies, clothes etc. to the games today and tomorrow. County do a whip round for unwanted clothing for our refugee brothers and sisters - jeasus someone thinking outside the box, or maybe its a ploy to get a wardrobe together for wee Joes  innauguration??

WUM-ing aside, bring the unwanted clothing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 12, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Hockeystick, ur amazing, a really enthralling and passionate analysis, I just cant wait until you get your CAP journalist posting.  Exhilarating stuff man, your talents know no bounds! (NOT)

Dont forget to bring all your old Toicfaidh Armanies, clothes etc. to the games today and tomorrow. County do a whip round for unwanted clothing for our refugee brothers and sisters - jeasus someone thinking outside the box, or maybe its a ploy to get a wardrobe together for wee Joes  innauguration??

WUM-ing aside, bring the unwanted clothing!

getevennotcross ur some craic!!

r u not away to croker this weekend again?!
if ur not using ur box/seats, i would gladly use it for the day or even next sunday lol

the bookies r never far wrong in the betting stakes, so cant c past a dunloy/loughguile final!
conditions under foot may make both games tighter, but i dont see a serena williams type ripple effect lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 12:23:38 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 12, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Hockeystick, ur amazing, a really enthralling and passionate analysis, I just cant wait until you get your CAP journalist posting.  Exhilarating stuff man, your talents know no bounds! (NOT)

Dont forget to bring all your old Toicfaidh Armanies, clothes etc. to the games today and tomorrow. County do a whip round for unwanted clothing for our refugee brothers and sisters - jeasus someone thinking outside the box, or maybe its a ploy to get a wardrobe together for wee Joes  innauguration??

WUM-ing aside, bring the unwanted clothing!

getevennotcross ur some craic!!

r u not away to croker this weekend again?!
if ur not using ur box/seats, i would gladly use it for the day or even next sunday lol

the bookies r never far wrong in the betting stakes, so cant c past a dunloy/loughguile final!
conditions under foot may make both games tighter, but i dont see a serena williams type ripple effect lol

Toughest game to call from all 6 quarters/semis. Could go either way. Neither team have kicked on much from the game last season. Ballycastle did make two bad management calls then though and they won't be repeated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 12, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Hockeystick, ur amazing, a really enthralling and passionate analysis, I just cant wait until you get your CAP journalist posting.  Exhilarating stuff man, your talents know no bounds! (NOT)

Dont forget to bring all your old Toicfaidh Armanies, clothes etc. to the games today and tomorrow. County do a whip round for unwanted clothing for our refugee brothers and sisters - jeasus someone thinking outside the box, or maybe its a ploy to get a wardrobe together for wee Joes  innauguration??

WUM-ing aside, bring the unwanted clothing!

getevennotcross ur some craic!!

r u not away to croker this weekend again?!
if ur not using ur box/seats, i would gladly use it for the day or even next sunday lol

the bookies r never far wrong in the betting stakes, so cant c past a dunloy/loughguile final!
conditions under foot may make both games tighter, but i dont see a serena williams type ripple effect lol
Hockeystick, dont be gettin too familiar lad, not recommended, best keeping your distance if you ask me. Box full next Sunday sorry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 12, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 11, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
Not a lot of hurling being talked on here as usual. It seems to be more about rain in Dunloy, referees, SF and how windy it is in Ballycastle!!!

Anyhoo I can't see past Loughgiel on Sunday. Unbeaten all year and a lack lustre performance vs St Galls to buck them up a bit it would be a shock to me if Cushendall get past them.

As for tomorrow Ballycastle haven't beat Dunloy in the championship since 1996 and they have put us out of 4 of the last 7 championships so Dunloy have no reason to fear us. They also have a match winner in Paul Shiels who invariably does step up to the mark for them. They will work as a team and so wont be easy beat.

As for Ballycastle I believe we have 3 potential match winners (Neal McAuley, Saul McCaughan and Ciaran Clarke) but in the last few years as a team they haven't delivered in the championship. Although still a relatively young team quite a number of players have played 5/6 years in the championship so its time they stepped up as a group and delivered on the big day. Although Dunloy have beaten us a lot in recent years I don't think overall they have a better team than Ballycastle so if we can get a big performance from some of our main players in addition to a lot of hard work from players all over the pitch then we might just get over the line. Even Skull will be happy if Ballycastle win, he wont then be part of the last team from Dunloy to have gotten beat by Ballycastle in the championship  :P

Neal Mcauley is a great player. He is a poor man marker though. I'd be surprised if he is not sweeper today. If he and Shorty start at 6 and 11 Shorty will get score after score. Dunloy have Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague (if fit) to even out Mccaughan/Clarke. Dunloy do have the better defence however. Add the change of management in season and I think....... Ballycastle will win. They're due one and it has to happen some time.
Hockeystick, ur amazing, a really enthralling and passionate analysis, I just cant wait until you get your CAP journalist posting.  Exhilarating stuff man, your talents know no bounds! (NOT)

Dont forget to bring all your old Toicfaidh Armanies, clothes etc. to the games today and tomorrow. County do a whip round for unwanted clothing for our refugee brothers and sisters - jeasus someone thinking outside the box, or maybe its a ploy to get a wardrobe together for wee Joes  innauguration??

WUM-ing aside, bring the unwanted clothing!

getevennotcross ur some craic!!

r u not away to croker this weekend again?!
if ur not using ur box/seats, i would gladly use it for the day or even next sunday lol

the bookies r never far wrong in the betting stakes, so cant c past a dunloy/loughguile final!
conditions under foot may make both games tighter, but i dont see a serena williams type ripple effect lol
Hockeystick, dont be gettin too familiar lad, not recommended, best keeping your distance if you ask me. Box full next Sunday sorry!

Was Culchie was taking the hand out of you, not me geteven. If you'd talk less and read more you could keep up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 02:42:46 PM
So undecided!! If it were a double header I'd be down for definite.... Will it be a decent game? I don't know.. Will certainly be tense, which team will make it a better final? Hmmm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2015, 02:44:25 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GxvfeuiYlLQ&feature=youtu.be

Good watch here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 02:42:46 PM
So undecided!! If it were a double header I'd be down for definite.... Will it be a decent game? I don't know.. Will certainly be tense, which team will make it a better final? Hmmm

Was like a league game last year. Flat. Hopefully be a great game. It's very windy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 02:42:46 PM
So undecided!! If it were a double header I'd be down for definite.... Will it be a decent game? I don't know.. Will certainly be tense, which team will make it a better final? Hmmm

Was like a league game last year. Flat. Hopefully be a great game. It's very windy.
Hockeystick, the mask is slipping now man. Windy and full of Sh**e, you have the affliction from both orifices!

I just ignore Culchie, a real numpty and empty vessel that boy.

Well on my way to Loughgiel, clothes for wee Jose in the boot also. Keys, sandwiches, flask, warm coat and hat - all check!  Jaysus, I hope wee Joe does not think I am donating my good Berghaus coat, have had it for years. Always handy to keep in the car along with  ma tweed cap. £8.00, I hope it lives up to it, thats 4 good lotto tickets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 04:49:41 PM
Some crowd. Wind seems to be dying down a wee bit.  So here we go, business time. Good luck to all 4 teams this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 04:49:41 PM
Some crowd. Wind seems to be dying down a wee bit.  So here we go, business time. Good luck to all 4 teams this weekend.
Dont stand beside Hockeystick SIE, his ozone hole has potential to score an own goal (Windbag). Good crowd indeed. Ah hell me battery is low!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Anyone know anyone doing twitter updates?? No county antrim post or official antrim ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
Dunloy 1-6 to 0-04 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
Dunloy 1-6 to 0-04 up
2-8 to 1-8 Dunloy. H-T.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 06:11:55 PM
Ballycastle now 6 up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2015, 06:16:01 PM
How long left?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 12, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
Final moments. 1-17 2-12. Town up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:18:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2015, 06:16:01 PM
How long left?
2_18 to 2_14
2-19 to 2-15 ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:22:00 PM
Town win - FT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:22:00 PM
Town win - FT.
Ah fair play to The Town. Good luck to them.

2-20 to 2-15.


All Ireland B U 21. Meath 1-14 Wickalaw 2-16, 4mins left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2015, 06:26:40 PM
Yeah long time since they were in final. Fair play to ronan donnelly.

I know some thought they'd win but usually come championship dunloy hard to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2015, 06:26:40 PM
Yeah long time since they were in final. Fair play to ronan donnelly.

I know some thought they'd win but usually come championship dunloy hard to beat.
+1.  Bualadh bos also to the officials, job well done and didn't spoil the game as others frequently allude to. Although, thought Paddy D or McKeague may have walked, but its all about perception I susuppo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
Well done to Ronan and Ballycastle - hard luck Dunloy.

Final confirmation that after missing today - I will not be in Dunloy tomorrow either.

Not a happy man.

Let's hope it's a good game tomorrow and post as much about the games as you can please guys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
Well done to Ronan and Ballycastle - hard luck Dunloy.

Final confirmation that after missing today - I will not be in Dunloy tomorrow either. Go on ya tight Hoor ya!

Not a happy man.

Let's hope it's a good game tomorrow and post as much about the games as you can please guys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
No complaints tonight. After putting ourselves in a great position at half time we pretty much never showed up in the second half. Just didn't look to have the belief when they got those quick scores after the break and we never looked like winning after that. Best of luck to Ballycastle in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 12, 2015, 07:18:37 PM
Funny Skull I thought Dunloy lost the game in the first half. Just didn't get enough scores on the board with the wind at their backs. Really well refereed game imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
I'm glad were not in the final cause how we are playing wouldn't beat lgiel or the dall.
Brutal stuff from us. We neve showed up in the second half a all.
Best of luck to ballycastle but I can only see a winner from tomorrow's semi final of the championship this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...

Big strong boys. Won everything. It was Saul and Ciaran that did all the damage though. Saul in particular.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...

exactly same puc out every time when it wasn't working, hoped he would try one down the left to bungo who was going well
sorry  mr2 but the ref wasn't helping dunloys dilemma  either, some of those balls you mentioned our  forwards where clearly being held back.  some decisions against dunloy and for ballycastle where baffling

dont think it beat us all the same and well done to ballycastle. hope they go on and win it


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...

exactly same puc out every time when it wasn't working, hoped he would try one down the left to bungo who was going well
sorry  mr2 but the ref wasn't helping dunloys dilemma  either, some of those balls you mentioned our  forwards where clearly being held back.  some decisions against dunloy and for ballycastle where baffling

dont think it beat us all the same and well done to ballycastle. hope they go on and win it

Referee never beat you, that's 100% right.. As for the holding some possibly but not winning any position in the second half and allowing Ballycastle to score 4 points in first two minutes (I timed it) was what beat Dunloy....

Surprised nothing was switched when Castle got on top! As for not getting frees Dunloy would have been beat a lot more had they not got them in second half...

Anyways glad I made the trip down, first half Dunloy took some great scores and the goals were great, as said already, taking more advantage of the wind in the first half would have won it for Dunloy...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...

exactly same puc out every time when it wasn't working, hoped he would try one down the left to bungo who was going well
sorry  mr2 but the ref wasn't helping dunloys dilemma  either, some of those balls you mentioned our  forwards where clearly being held back.  some decisions against dunloy and for ballycastle where baffling

dont think it beat us all the same and well done to ballycastle. hope they go on and win it

Referee never beat you, that's 100% right.. As for the holding some possibly but not winning any position in the second half and allowing Ballycastle to score 4 points in first two minutes (I timed it) was what beat Dunloy....

Surprised nothing was switched when Castle got on top! As for not getting frees Dunloy would have been beat a lot more had they not got them in second half...

Anyways glad I made the trip down, first half Dunloy took some great scores and the goals were great, as said already, taking more advantage of the wind in the first half would have won it for Dunloy...

sorry dude but the man in the middle had a bigger influence  than the wind, to be honest i thought he had a stinker  but as i said on balance ballycastle deserved it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
For me it was Ballycastles half back line that won it in second half, gaining all break ball and first ball too... Supplying the forwards who took on the Dunloy defence... Pick outs should have been changed , as the hail Marys down the halfback line didn't work once...

Shorty not at races and cant keep carrying the team...

exactly same puc out every time when it wasn't working, hoped he would try one down the left to bungo who was going well
sorry  mr2 but the ref wasn't helping dunloys dilemma  either, some of those balls you mentioned our  forwards where clearly being held back.  some decisions against dunloy and for ballycastle where baffling

dont think it beat us all the same and well done to ballycastle. hope they go on and win it

Referee never beat you, that's 100% right.. As for the holding some possibly but not winning any position in the second half and allowing Ballycastle to score 4 points in first two minutes (I timed it) was what beat Dunloy....

Surprised nothing was switched when Castle got on top! As for not getting frees Dunloy would have been beat a lot more had they not got them in second half...

Anyways glad I made the trip down, first half Dunloy took some great scores and the goals were great, as said already, taking more advantage of the wind in the first half would have won it for Dunloy...

sorry dude but the man in the middle had a bigger influence  than the wind, to be honest i thought he had a stinker  but as i said on balance ballycastle deserved it

Whatever floats your boat, and if it makes the defeat easier for you then fine... Like I said I think possibly at most there was at least 2/3 decisions that could have been given but you haven't mentioned allowing ballycastle to score from play four points in 2 mins as being a factor, no?? Or did the referee make that happen? Or constatantly sending high long ball into a physically stronger half back line wasn't a factor?? But no it was Collie that had a major say in it (shakes head)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on September 12, 2015, 08:15:55 PM
Well done ballycastle. Good to see a different name in the final. One good thing about the result is that the final won't be in ballycastle lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 12, 2015, 08:45:57 PM
Interesting point on final venue again!
Looks like it'll be in either Dunloy or Loughgiel then depending on tomorrow's result?

So annoyed I can't get to the match - if it's not much trouble can people post updates.
I struggled getting Twitter news tonight - is there any accounts to follow for tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 12, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
It's a real pity that Sarsfields do not have the parking facilities. It would be a great venue for the final.

Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 12, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
If parking facilities are the only thing stopping Sarsfields hosting a final, I don't see how Corrigan is an improvement.

FWIW, I don't see the point in bringing Ballycastle v the winners to Belfast for the final.

I'm nearly sure they came to Belfast for most finals... until that balls up on the Andytown road happened 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 12, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
Also glad I made the journey. It was a very enjoyable game and the best team definitely won. Fair play to Ballycastle after coming back from a very strong Dunloy start.

After the first 15 minutes, Ballycastle started to win their own puck outs, which were varied and ensured they won possession and once they had it they had great outlets in Saul and Clarke. Both had good games but Saul the more effective although Clarke won plenty of ball at the end of the second half when they needed him too.

Dunloy mustn't have had much faith in their bench. They had nobody effective in that Half Forward line. The Ballycastle Half Back line were dominating and from then that's were their inside forwards were getting the ball but there wasn't any changes or even positional changes from what I could notice, which left Dunloy'd FBs badly exposed.

The game was won in a few places. Ballycastle staying in the game in the first half. Ballycastle's dominance in the HB line. Saul and Clarke's pace and ability to take a score but I think they won the game mostly in their own half. The tackling from their forward line was immense and fair play to them. It would be nice to see them win.

Regarding Collie McKnight, I though he had a solid game and controlled it well. He used his umpires and linesmen when they were needed. McKeague could have walked. I thought he got the tackle on McAuley that led to Dunloy's second goal spot on when many refs might have given a free. McKnight certainly did not lose that game for Dunloy. If you are looking to refs, then you are not looking in the mirror.

ok here is  my real opinion
like i said earlier he wasn't the winning or losing of the game and as i said earlier ballycastle half back line for our puc outs was the difference
the  ref  was very one sided the whole way through and has nothing to do with me looking in the mirror ( what a stupid statement )
I could go into all the bad decisions but i simply lost count
call it sour grapes or looking in the mirror or what ever
he was absolutely  brutal for dunloy and if it had of been a tighter game then his input would have a big bearing on it
say what you want that's the facts
terrible performance

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
Belfast Gaels wouldn't even attend in significant numbers even if it was on their doorstep.

More chance of getting neutrals attending in the right numbers up the country
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 09:20:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 12, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
Also glad I made the journey. It was a very enjoyable game and the best team definitely won. Fair play to Ballycastle after coming back from a very strong Dunloy start.

After the first 15 minutes, Ballycastle started to win their own puck outs, which were varied and ensured they won possession and once they had it they had great outlets in Saul and Clarke. Both had good games but Saul the more effective although Clarke won plenty of ball at the end of the second half when they needed him too.

Dunloy mustn't have had much faith in their bench. They had nobody effective in that Half Forward line. The Ballycastle Half Back line were dominating and from then that's were their inside forwards were getting the ball but there wasn't any changes or even positional changes from what I could notice, which left Dunloy'd FBs badly exposed.

The game was won in a few places. Ballycastle staying in the game in the first half. Ballycastle's dominance in the HB line. Saul and Clarke's pace and ability to take a score but I think they won the game mostly in their own half. The tackling from their forward line was immense and fair play to them. It would be nice to see them win.

Regarding Collie McKnight, I though he had a solid game and controlled it well. He used his umpires and linesmen when they were needed. McKeague could have walked. I thought he got the tackle on McAuley that led to Dunloy's second goal spot on when many refs might have given a free. McKnight certainly did not lose that game for Dunloy. If you are looking to refs, then you are not looking in the mirror.

ok here is  my real opinion
like i said earlier he wasn't the winning or losing of the game and as i said earlier ballycastle half back line for our puc outs was the difference
the  ref  was very one sided the whole way through and has nothing to do with me looking in the mirror ( what a stupid statement )
I could go into all the bad decisions but i simply lost count
call it sour grapes or looking in the mirror or what ever
he was absolutely  brutal for dunloy and if it had of been a tighter game then his input would have a big bearing on it
say what you want that's the facts
terrible performance


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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 12, 2015, 09:14:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 12, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
Also glad I made the journey. It was a very enjoyable game and the best team definitely won. Fair play to Ballycastle after coming back from a very strong Dunloy start.

After the first 15 minutes, Ballycastle started to win their own puck outs, which were varied and ensured they won possession and once they had it they had great outlets in Saul and Clarke. Both had good games but Saul the more effective although Clarke won plenty of ball at the end of the second half when they needed him too.

Dunloy mustn't have had much faith in their bench. They had nobody effective in that Half Forward line. The Ballycastle Half Back line were dominating and from then that's were their inside forwards were getting the ball but there wasn't any changes or even positional changes from what I could notice, which left Dunloy'd FBs badly exposed.

The game was won in a few places. Ballycastle staying in the game in the first half. Ballycastle's dominance in the HB line. Saul and Clarke's pace and ability to take a score but I think they won the game mostly in their own half. The tackling from their forward line was immense and fair play to them. It would be nice to see them win.

Regarding Collie McKnight, I though he had a solid game and controlled it well. He used his umpires and linesmen when they were needed. McKeague could have walked. I thought he got the tackle on McAuley that led to Dunloy's second goal spot on when many refs might have given a free. McKnight certainly did not lose that game for Dunloy. If you are looking to refs, then you are not looking in the mirror.

ok here is  my real opinion
like i said earlier he wasn't the winning or losing of the game and as i said earlier ballycastle half back line for our puc outs was the difference
the  ref  was very one sided the whole way through and has nothing to do with me looking in the mirror ( what a stupid statement )
I could go into all the bad decisions but i simply lost count
call it sour grapes or looking in the mirror or what ever
he was absolutely  brutal for dunloy and if it had of been a tighter game then his input would have a big bearing on it
say what you want that's the facts
terrible performance
Don't tell people to call it sour grapes, nah. They probably will.

thats up to them
despite the ref being poor he didn't beat us, ballycastle did by playing better and its great to see them in a county final
I know they will go in as underdogs whoever they play but it would be good for the county if they won it
throw in the johnnies performance against the dall its good to see other clubs on the up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gelvis on September 12, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 12, 2015, 08:45:57 PM
Interesting point on final venue again!
Looks like it'll be in either Dunloy or Loughgiel then depending on tomorrow's result?

So annoyed I can't get to the match - if it's not much trouble can people post updates.
I struggled getting Twitter news tonight - is there any accounts to follow for tomorrow?

Final to be in Ballycastle regardless of whos playing.  Its still classified as the county hurling ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Ballycastle well worth the win tonight. Saul was excellent and if he had a pair of proper boots on and stopped falling over he would have scored even more. As for the referee he tried to let the game flow and got most things right although the Dunloy number 6 should have seen red. If the officials see you strike someone off the ball how can it not be red?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Ballycastle well worth the win tonight. Saul was excellent and if he had a pair of proper boots on and stopped falling over he would have scored even more. As for the referee he tried to let the game flow and got most things right although the Dunloy number 6 should have seen red. If the officials see you strike someone off the ball how can it not be red?

But what did they see? The linesman who spoke to Collie motioned that it was a shoulder charge in the back off the ball, was there some before it and that was the outcome? I don't know, maybe North_antrim_hound had a better view on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2015, 09:40:52 PM
Ballycastle the better team and got the win as I thought they would. Referee had a good game and only thing I'd say is that James McKeague should have walked.

Who's with Dick on Dunloy sideline? They seemed to make very few changes when the tide turned but maybe don't have much in reserve?

Ballycastle tails will be up now and they'll be a handful in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 10:01:47 PM
Ballycastle will win a title soon just not this year. Loughiel are too strong all over, they're a different animal. Not to discredit Ballycastle as they fully deserved the win and I'm happy for them. But that is a poor enough Dunloy team, their own fans would agree. Loughiel are a different animal this year and will dispatch Cushendal tomorrow before winning the final with a bit to spare. Money on Ballycastle for 2016 possibly??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
It has taken Ballycastle 13 years to get into a final. There is no guarantee that it won't be another 13 before they make another one. While I agree that if they meet Loughgiel in a final that they will have too much for them I do not believe in this business of being a year too soon. I remember everyone talking about how it was a year too soon for Dunloy in 1990 and they paid it no mind ( rightly so ). Ballycastle need to adopt a similar attitude regardless of who is in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Ballycastle well worth the win tonight. Saul was excellent and if he had a pair of proper boots on and stopped falling over he would have scored even more. As for the referee he tried to let the game flow and got most things right although the Dunloy number 6 should have seen red. If the officials see you strike someone off the ball how can it not be red?

But what did they see? The linesman who spoke to Collie motioned that it was a shoulder charge in the back off the ball, was there some before it and that was the outcome? I don't know, maybe North_antrim_hound had a better view on it

i didn't see it as i was following the ball
its amazing the amount of posters on here seen it as the ball was at the other end, when he got up they shook hands which would suggest no malice but i didn't see it
i wonder if he deserved red was it worse than J Coen did or would Hanbury did to callinan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 10:28:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Ballycastle well worth the win tonight. Saul was excellent and if he had a pair of proper boots on and stopped falling over he would have scored even more. As for the referee he tried to let the game flow and got most things right although the Dunloy number 6 should have seen red. If the officials see you strike someone off the ball how can it not be red?

But what did they see? The linesman who spoke to Collie motioned that it was a shoulder charge in the back off the ball, was there some before it and that was the outcome? I don't know, maybe North_antrim_hound had a better view on it

i didn't see it as i was following the ball
its amazing the amount of posters on here seen it as the ball was at the other end, when he got up they shook hands which would suggest no malice but i didn't see it
i wonder if he deserved red was it worse than J Coen did or would Hanbury did to callinan

and the same for the ref, very hard to get everything... Anyways who's fault is it tomorrow? sorry I mean who is refereeing tomorrow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 10:33:53 PM
I suspect the Coen yellow had a bit to do with it. If a player cannot be sent off for that simply because it is in the first half what message does that send to referees. I would not like to be a forward in the first half tomorrow  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 12, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Dunloy posters tonight should praise the referee. He could have put 2 of them on the line if the notion had took him. I thought he did a really good job all things considered. I'm a neutral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 12, 2015, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 12, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Dunloy posters tonight should praise the referee. He could have put 2 of them on the line if the notion had took him. I thought he did a really good job all things considered. I'm a neutral.

sorry JJ your not sounding very neutral from here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 12, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 12, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Ballycastle well worth the win tonight. Saul was excellent and if he had a pair of proper boots on and stopped falling over he would have scored even more. As for the referee he tried to let the game flow and got most things right although the Dunloy number 6 should have seen red. If the officials see you strike someone off the ball how can it not be red?
+1 he should have walked IMHO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2015, 11:19:49 PM
Eeny Kelly I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 01:02:46 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 13, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
I never got involved in the saga but you must realise that performing well in a match is a long way off making up for what he is accused of??
;D Yes strange comment that having a good match absolves you of behaving like a tube.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!

Well that came a bit out of the blue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on September 13, 2015, 09:35:05 AM
Absolutely magic feeling to wake up - with a hangover knowing we have finally qualified for a county final. It has been coming over the last few years but the longer it went on the harder it was becoming a mental thing. For a few posters on here who said we would roll over again, bottle it etc - the Loughgiel experience should show you that if you keep knocking u can get there.
We are into a final now and anything is possible - we will be massive underdogs but I know our lads will not fear anyone. Whether they have enough this year only time will tell.
Some of our main players took a lot of flak last year for their performance and in there role in removing Humpy earlier in year -but they stood up last night.
As an attacking unit we looked as if we could score at will. Defensively we were poor for first 20 mins but finally got a foot hold on game.
It's nice looking forward to the other semi knowing we are in final - it's been a long time waiting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 13, 2015, 11:09:06 AM
The way Ballycastle distributed the ball yesterday was excellent. They hit the right type of ball to the right players. Low in front of Saul, into space for Clarke and when they needed to win dirty ball Fergus Donnelly and Stephen McGarry did the business. Despite being a fairly young team Dunloy looked like they faded very badly in the second half. No matter who they meet in the final Ballycastle's tails will be up and they'll be hard to work with. They'll have serious belief now too after beating Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 13, 2015, 12:41:20 PM
Dunloy seem to lack leaders, especially from midfield upwards. Shorty is undoubtedly a great hurler but not really a leader and he faded out of the game badly yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
No doubt about it, when the game started to go against us at the start of the second half we didn't have an effective response. Similar to Galway last week our decision making and touch got worse when Ballycastle got momentum. The collective belief wasn't there. Thats not to say they didn't try. They've trained solidly all year and ground out some good results in what was a difficult league campaign. A real honest group of players. We just have to suck it up and go again...same as any other team who gets chinned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 13, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Get the town covered in the colours. Great to see. Well done.
Loughiel/Cushendall while favourites won't get it easy in the final. The work rate from the Ballycastle forwards was phenomenal yesterday. If they can bring that and if they can get their forwards going again, based on yesterday's showing they certainly have a chance. I was particularly impressed (after the first 15 mins) in how they won possession from their puck outs. If the game ends up on the ground and scrappy they have the physicality. Yesterday they won nearly every scrappy 50/50 ball due to sheer physicality. Their size could also be their downfall against a team that wins clean possession. Neal McAuley is a great man to have in the middle of your half back line but i wonder how he'd do against someone who will always be on the move.

Genuinnely delighted for them and outside the Cushendall and Loughiel men, I think they'll have the support of every neutral in the county.
whats that stuff your on man? Nothing won yet.

See how many nuetrals will be investing with P Power?? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on September 13, 2015, 02:59:46 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!

Bit like giving praise to a serial killer for not killing someone today.  I was bad yesterday but good today so it's all ok!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on September 13, 2015, 02:59:46 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!

Bit like giving praise to a serial killer for not killing someone today.  I was bad yesterday but good today so it's all ok!!
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 13, 2015, 12:41:20 PM
Dunloy seem to lack leaders, especially from midfield upwards. Shorty is undoubtedly a greaCallanan's but not really a leader and he faded out of the game badly yesterday.

Shorty has been Antrim's best player for 2 seasons for club and county. He was second top scorer in inter county Championshp hurling two seasons ago, beat only by the great Seamus Callanan. He looks like he needs a break just like the great Loughiel players did last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 13, 2015, 12:41:20 PM
Dunloy seem to lack leaders, especially from midfield upwards. Shorty is undoubtedly a greaCallanan's but not really a leader and he faded out of the game badly yesterday.

Shorty has been Antrim's best player for 2 seasons for club and county. He was second top scorer in inter county Championshp hurling two seasons ago, beat only by the great Seamus Callanan. He looks like he needs a break just like the great Loughiel players did last year.
County, perhaps. Club, debatable. No doubt he's a grand free taker and a good player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 13, 2015, 03:56:45 PM
Reddog no real comment on the Bradley sledging disgrace only to say Im glad he'll be playing a game that suits his disgusting mouth next year, were sledging is acceptable !! Where you at the 21 Final? Campbell roasted him scoring 2 points of him!! He certiantly played well against us in the Senior quarter final, but he is still in the WhOLE County's opinion a disgrace to our game.
Well done to the Town, and Big Ronan, who is a real gentleman, we are up against it today but we travel in hope!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
Scores???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
8-3 the dall half time.

Think portaferry may have been beat by ballygalget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans supporter on September 13, 2015, 05:42:56 PM
8-3 to cdall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
Match abandoned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
Due to medical incident...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Same to the Cushendall supporter. Not sure what happened over there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 13, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Same to the Cushendall supporter. Not sure what happened over there.
Young kid fell, banged his head and was unconscious for a few seconds. He came around after a few moments so hopefully nothing too serious!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:28:19 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 13, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery. Same to the Cushendall supporter. Not sure what happened over there.
Young kid fell, banged his head and was unconscious for a few seconds. He came around after a few moments so hopefully nothing too serious!
thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
Loughgiel would need a big improvement for next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 07:45:18 PM
Was it Liam's dad?  Hope he is ok. Puts everything in perspective. So much i'd like to discuss about the match but best left for another day. Speedy recovery to the Loughiel fan. God Bless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 07:45:59 PM
Certainly puts things in perspective! Clothes for the poor refugees, ambulances and medics for sick.  Hopefully a full recovery to the Loughgiel and Dall persons. God bless them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
We're hoping you would tell us that MR2. Ask Mark and get back to us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
We're hoping you would tell us that MR2. Ask Mark and get back to us all.

Is there a time factor before game needs to be played from start Or from when game stopped!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
8-3 the dall half time.

Think portaferry may have been beat by ballygalget.

Yip, we eeked out a point victory somehow! Wasn't a great game, too many basic errors throughout plus the tight Ballycran pitch doesn't help. Two great goals, one from Danny Toner who finally is starting to show end result for all his abilities.
Ports were flat and had some strange positional switches which helped us, but we've a load of room for improvement, touch and decision making poor at times, but some of the young lads will learn from it. We'll take it and move on to the final in two weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2015, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
We're hoping you would tell us that MR2. Ask Mark and get back to us all.

Is there a time factor before game needs to be played from start Or from when game stopped!

the second half had only started 4 or 5 minutes max

i would say it will all go back to zero. there's no way there will only play one half next sunday will there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
as far as I know the game was abandoned, not suspended. Therefore the game is void. It has been "re-fixed" for next Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on September 13, 2015, 08:26:19 PM
Game must be refixed for the full period  -remember Clare v Offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
as far as I know the game was abandoned, not suspended. Therefore the game is void. It has been "re-fixed" for next Sunday.

Is that what you'd prefer??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
as far as I know the game was abandoned, not suspended. Therefore the game is void. It has been "re-fixed" for next Sunday.
LOL
Is that what you'd prefer??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on September 13, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
JC was there a full complement at the end
Quote from: johnneycool on September 13, 2015, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
8-3 the dall half time.

Think portaferry may have been beat by ballygalget.

Yip, we eeked out a point victory somehow! Wasn't a great game, too many basic errors throughout plus the tight Ballycran pitch doesn't help. Two great goals, one from Danny Toner who finally is starting to show end result for all his abilities.
Ports were flat and had some strange positional switches which helped us, but we've a load of room for improvement, touch and decision making poor at times, but some of the young lads will learn from it. We'll take it and move on to the final in two weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
as far as I know the game was abandoned, not suspended. Therefore the game is void. It has been "re-fixed" for next Sunday.

Is that what you'd prefer??
I believe it's the rules. I'm surprised you don't know that. And to be honest I don't think anyone in loughgiel is thinking about that at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 13, 2015, 08:41:08 PM
I hope Winkers dad is on the road to recovery. Life more important than hurling. Free admission next Sunday? Should be, but I can't see it happening. Traffic really bad today before the game. I left Ballycastle just after 4 and crossed the main carriageway at twenty past 4. The traffic was queued miles back down the road from Dunloy. Every spectator was coming in the same road and there were no stewards at the crossroads before the game. I missed the first ten minutes of the game and loads of others were later than me. Actually thought throw in would have been delayed as there were so many people not in the ground due to the traffic. They need the stewards at pappys before the game next Sunday.

On the match itself, I could only see one winner before throw in, Loughgiel. How wrong I was from what I seen on the field. Loughgiel looked nervous, loads of wides and bad touches. They looked to be on the way out before the game was abandoned. Hard to know how it will pan out now next Sunday. I may leave the house at 11.30am for the 1pm throw in on Sunday 😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:43:31 PM
I was in the field at half 3. Taking no chances.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 13, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2015, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 13, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
We're hoping you would tell us that MR2. Ask Mark and get back to us all.

Is there a time factor before game needs to be played from start Or from when game stopped!

the second half had only started 4 or 5 minutes max

i would say it will all go back to zero. there's no way there will only play one half next sunday will there


Firstly and most importantly I hope everyone involved in the incidents off the pitch are ok or will be ok.

Second, I think the match will have to be played from the start. I had said to my dad when I heard the game was abandoned that I think it should be started from second half. We when discussed it and it didn't really stack up. Injuries, tiredness levels form, all this changes with a second half stand alone game but mostly weather factors. If you played against a big breeze  and were well down at HT but were confident that you could turn it around, match gets abandoned, then next day play one half with no wind or worse against the wind again. It just wouldn't work.

Again I would just like to wish the man involved well and a good recovery, and the young supporter who fell. Think without doubt everyone involved would agree that the health of everyone is paramount.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:53:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2015, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 07:35:09 PM
Match to be played next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Played from the start??
as far as I know the game was abandoned, not suspended. Therefore the game is void. It has been "re-fixed" for next Sunday.

Is that what you'd prefer??
I believe it's the rules. I'm surprised you don't know that. And to be honest I don't think anyone in loughgiel is thinking about that at the moment.

And id know that because?? The match report is filled in and sent to county board, they decide what happens next... That's like saying a referee sends of a player and he definitely doesn't start next game... Hmm that doesn't happen a lot.. Get out of jail card tonight by the sounds of it... But hey youse were five down against us at half time... Stuffed us in then end...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2015, 08:57:23 PM
Bound to have been the biggest crowd at a hurling match in Antrim in a long time. Great to see

Id recommend people leave earlier next week.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 13, 2015, 10:08:48 PM
Those defibrillators should surely be on the pitch side for games - those seconds wasted in someone having to run to the changing rooms could be the difference between life and death 

Glad that all concerned are ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 13, 2015, 09:43:49 PM
Coming from Belfast,I sailed in through Glarryford with 20 mins before throw in. Best wishes to Winker's father. Puts the rivalry and indeed the game into perspective. It looked very concerning. I was close to the young lad who fell and seeing the young cub and his family really had everyone shook up. I'm sure it was the same at the Loughiel side. Thank god there was enough doctors about.

It should be a big lesson for the county board. At events like these, we need to have the St John's ambulance at least there but in reality there should be proper ambulances too for a crowd that size. Cost should never compromise safety. Fair play tp the Dunloy stewards. They handled the situation very well (defibrillator, access for ambulance etc).

Hopefully the lessons are learned.
+1, well said Shoebox.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 10:44:44 PM
He's a lucky man. There are few better places outside of hospital to have heart trouble.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2015, 10:47:06 PM
Exactly
Doctors Nurses and Defib all within 100m
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.

Any updates SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.

Any updates SIE?
Paudie McShane posted earlier on Facebook that he has had stents put in and on the mend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 13, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.

Any updates SIE?
Paudie McShane posted earlier on Facebook that he has had stents put in and on the mend.

Brilliant news,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 13, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.

Any updates SIE?
Paudie McShane posted earlier on Facebook that he has had stents put in and on the mend.

Brilliant news,
great stuff. One of his daughters has put up on Facebook that's he's on the mend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2015, 11:37:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:32:58 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 13, 2015, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 13, 2015, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 13, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 13, 2015, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, well done to all involved. Stewards did a good job clearing the way too.

Any updates SIE?
Paudie McShane posted earlier on Facebook that he has had stents put in and on the mend.

Brilliant news,
great stuff. One of his daughters has put up on Facebook that's he's on the mend.

great news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2015, 11:59:02 PM
Result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 13, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
I never got involved in the saga but you must realise that performing well in a match is a long way off making up for what he is accused of??

accused of ....you hit nail on the head.Accused of, he has never been proven guilty but thats a fact that has escaped you all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 14, 2015, 06:14:32 AM
Posted on Liam Watson's Facebook page:

"Would like to take this time to thank dunloy hurling club,stewards,and staff -doctors ,paramedics and for all who help keep my father alive today. To all other clubs , friends and inner-outer circle for phone calls, text mgs, private mail and much more my mother and I along with my 3 sister's cant thank use all enough.sorry if I have missed any1 out. Daddy is in royal and recovering after his operation. Xx"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 14, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
Great news that he is on the mend, I'm sure it was a terrible thing for friends and family too. Fair play to all who helped as well, they are all a credit to The GAA. In relation to the match I don't really know what to think. We had loughgiel on the ropes and for my money we were on top in most sectors of the pitch. That mean defence from last year was back, Graffin makes all the difference. We are a different team with him onboard. Loughgiel hit a few bad wides but so did we and we had the only real goal chance which we didn't take. Again the ref was doing a fine job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2015, 08:14:36 AM
Great to hear that Paddy is on the mend. Well done to all who assisted him & Dunloy officials who organised entry & exits for the ambulances very well given the size of the crowd.

On the match itself, Cushendall were on top on every line of the field. They brought an intensity to the game we never matched in the first half hour. We got one warning against St. Galls, we've got another one yesterday but I don't see our management team making any changes. I'd like to see a few younger fellas (Damon & Sian) get their chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 14, 2015, 08:22:06 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.
Your hubris is amazing but I 'm not impressed.  Happy to meet anytime, any place anywhere of your choosing? I'll await your invitation? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2015, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

What do you think of all the people who claim he said what he said rd? To assassinate ones character with a lie is a terrible thing as you say.... I'd agree with you on principle there.... what do you think of the people who are collectively lying through their teeth (in your opinion). You must think pretty low of each and every one of them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2015, 09:25:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2015, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

What do you think of all the people who claim he said what he said rd? To assassinate ones character with a lie is a terrible thing as you say.... I'd agree with you on principle there.... what do you think of the people who are collectively lying through their teeth (in your opinion). You must think pretty low of each and every one of them?

+1

But are we really going to start over this again?
It's done now and MB will have to live with it and the damage it has done to his reputation.
But I think it is time to move on past this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

You can endorse his integrity and dignity as an anonymous poster on an Internet Forum, for all we know you are michael bradley or elton john, I think I like any other rational person would rather take first hand accounts from people we know personally along with the comments that his own team mates admitted it.
And frankly it doesn't stop here as you repeatedly state because you a faceless moniker on the internet with no authority, even if you do want to meet up for a fight it won't change what happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2015, 09:33:25 AM
It's been a strange weekend giving what happened in Cushendall on Saturday with Neil's father & then obviously Winkers da. Was scary at the match last night when the doctors/nurses started running across the pitch & the shouts across the pitch for the Defib. Glad both are on the mend.

Ballycastle deserved the win as Dunloy never showed up in the second half. The Town took some great scores & Clarkey & Saul are a handful.
The Dall were going well last night with some bad wides from L'Giel, but there was still a long way to go. Hard one to call for next Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 14, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
What happened to Hugh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
Glad to hear Liams father is on the mend. hurling is important to us all but family and health are alot more precious.

Bit of a panic to get everyone out and away but thankfully it wasn't too bad. Traffic was mad but it was all to do with people all coming from the same direction and at the same time.

Best advice to anyone going to the game sunday is go early and get parked at the hall or chapel asap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2015, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 14, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
What happened to Hugh?
Took a heart attack on Saturday morning as well. Rushed to the Royal and was very lucky to survive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2015, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 14, 2015, 09:45:31 AM
Glad to hear Liams father is on the mend. hurling is important to us all but family and health are alot more precious.

Bit of a panic to get everyone out and away but thankfully it wasn't too bad. Traffic was mad but it was all to do with people all coming from the same direction and at the same time.

Best advice to anyone going to the game sunday is go early and get parked at the hall or chapel asap.

Would the Cushendall Traffic not be coming through Cloughmills out and across at Logans and the LG traffic not being coming up over the railway line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2015, 10:19:19 AM
They all seemed to come in up the station road over the railway. Most ones coming out at Logans wouldn't know the back roads straight over the junction to get to Dunloy and all turned right and then left up the station road.

Also there was a wake on just up from the pitch at the same time so there was people there for that as well.

People need to come that bit earlier for Sunday and there wont be any massive tail backs. Unfortunately there's nothing any of us in a yellow vest can do to move traffic up that road esp when you have people from all over north antrim coming in one direction. That crowd was bigger than the double header we had a few weeks ago.

Def come earlier is my advice as it will be the same this sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
Not being at the game I wasn't frustrated by traffic - so to me it sounds great that there was so many there!
Sounds like this Loughgiel Cushendall was like an episode of Casualty - best wishes for all concerned and hopeful of a speedy recovery.
Between the crowd and the concerns for other about the match - in some ways it managed still to show the best about the GAA Community.

Could the replay not have been Saturday? Anyone travelling home after will miss the biggest big ball match? Even tho it's not as important as the re-fix ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 14, 2015, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

You can endorse his integrity and dignity as an anonymous poster on an Internet Forum, for all we know you are michael bradley or elton john, I think I like any other rational person would rather take first hand accounts from people we know personally along with the comments that his own team mates admitted it.
And frankly it doesn't stop here as you repeatedly state because you a faceless moniker on the internet with no authority, even if you do want to meet up for a fight it won't change what happened.
A fight, who said anything about a fight, I'm a pacifist for goodness sake!  I was offering to meet  RD (and still am available) so he could do his barrack room, high and mighty lawyer bit!  Should I bring a brief or a Caman with me???  My goodness, eh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 14, 2015, 10:44:27 AM
Any estimate as to how many people were there?

Will the refix game be free entrance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 14, 2015, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

You can endorse his integrity and dignity as an anonymous poster on an Internet Forum, for all we know you are michael bradley or elton john, I think I like any other rational person would rather take first hand accounts from people we know personally along with the comments that his own team mates admitted it.
And frankly it doesn't stop here as you repeatedly state because you a faceless moniker on the internet with no authority, even if you do want to meet up for a fight it won't change what happened.
A fight, who said anything about a fight, I'm a pacifist for goodness sake!  I was offering to meet  RD (and still am available) so he could do his barrack room, high and mighty lawyer bit!  Should I bring a brief or a Caman with me???  My goodness, eh.

By the sounds of him you might need to bring a spare pair of briefs with you  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 14, 2015, 10:51:36 AM
I'd say there was a good 4000 at it. Maybe more. Yeah replay should be free. 32 quid over the weekend for me and herself into matches is plenty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 14, 2015, 10:51:36 AM
I'd say there was a good 4000 at it. Maybe more. Yeah replay should be free. 32 quid over the weekend for me and herself into matches is plenty.
Knowing the county board they'll charge £4 in cos everyone only got a half yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
No def decision made yet. they have said possibly a reduced rate with proceeds going to charity.

The twitter feed hasnt confirmed it yet though it will be confirmed this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2015, 11:02:52 AM
Just got an e-mail to say I am working Sunday, FFS.

What are the best Twiiter feeds for score updates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
county antrim post usually.

They are usually brilliant though slipped a bit at the weekend mind you...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
county antrim post usually.

They are usually brilliant though slipped a bit at the weekend mind you...

Thanks. Any specific journalists?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 11:15:33 AM
David Mohan can be good. Think he might be andytown news. There's another fella but can't remember name.

Not sure on north antrim journalists on twitter.

I think in some of the grounds they struggle for reception so tweets can be slower.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
county antrim post usually.

They are usually brilliant though slipped a bit at the weekend mind you...

Thanks. Any specific journalists?
@antrimpost

@gaascores used to be fairly good but I don't see them very often on my feed anymore (assuming I haven't unfollowed them!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 14, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Pull a sickie and go to the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
Is cormac donnelly playing for ballycastle or injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Cormac is injured, hasn't played all season. Starting to look like he will never be fit to play again. A big loss to club and county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2015, 10:13:46 PM
Yeah it seems he struggles a lot. Real pity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Cormac is injured, hasn't played all season. Starting to look like he will never be fit to play again. A big loss to club and county.
Is it the same pelvic injury he had a few years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:17:47 PM
That is still bothering him, but I think his knee is a bigger concern. Really unlucky with the injuries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2015, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:17:47 PM
That is still bothering him, but I think his knee is a bigger concern. Really unlucky with the injuries.

Quality player and seems a nice fella... Would hoped he'd return to play soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 14, 2015, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:17:47 PM
That is still bothering him, but I think his knee is a bigger concern. Really unlucky with the injuries.

Thats such a shame, lovely fella and quality hurler. Whats happened to his knee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 14, 2015, 10:46:46 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 14, 2015, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 14, 2015, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: reddog on September 14, 2015, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 13, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: reddog on September 13, 2015, 12:47:07 AM
Been keeping quiet but the double standards and refusal to give credit where its due is shocking. After the u21 final people tried to destroy Michael Bradley. I know the real Michael and know how good an athlete and person he is. The hyperbole after that match was shocking to the point Mick will be playing big ball next year. You all hammered him but refused to acknowledge his performance in the cdall game where he gave an exhibition. If you are gona hammer someone when you perceived he has done wrong at least be consistent if he does well!
No real comparison in if he performed well as opposed to being a tr**p sc**bag with his behaviour.  How can you justify such an endorsement of his integrity and dignity?  Beggars belief if you ask me.  I can certainly distinguish between what is right and wrong! Do you not think the disgusting manner of his mutterings and goading detracts from his performance at all?  All about moral compass don't you think?

Well off to Dunloy now, zoop, zandwiches, umbrella, rain coat, wellies, well Dunloy is a bog DR, isn't that rite mate?
i can endorse his integrity  and dignity as i know the person. You dont but have been judging the man. He hasnt beem proven guilty. If you see him day in and day out and how he conducts himself and how he is with his family and friends then you can judge. You cant judge based on an accusation. Frankly it stops here. There are two ways to settle character assasinations like this. We arrange to meet somewhere and sort it or we go the more formal route. But it ends here.

You can endorse his integrity and dignity as an anonymous poster on an Internet Forum, for all we know you are michael bradley or elton john, I think I like any other rational person would rather take first hand accounts from people we know personally along with the comments that his own team mates admitted it.
And frankly it doesn't stop here as you repeatedly state because you a faceless moniker on the internet with no authority, even if you do want to meet up for a fight it won't change what happened.
A fight, who said anything about a fight, I'm a pacifist for goodness sake!  I was offering to meet  RD (and still am available) so he could do his barrack room, high and mighty lawyer bit!  Should I bring a brief or a Caman with me???  My goodness, eh.

By the sounds of him you might need to bring a spare pair of briefs with you  :D
I'm still waiting on the invitation. ZZzzzzzz. RD are ya there pal?

Anytimel, any place, anywhere, your call, Martini time! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 14, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Cormac is injured, hasn't played all season. Starting to look like he will never be fit to play again. A big loss to club and county.

a real pity that, hes a good hurler and a nice guy as well. Got chatting to him at the camogie semi final a few weeks back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 15, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Knowing the county board they'll charge £4 in cos everyone only got a half yesterday

IMO there should be an open gate, with an entry collection for the refugee crisis, and ALL proceeds going to the Trócaire appeal, 91% bang for your buck. No fees or expenses to be taken.

Regarding the game, second half was shaping up to be real good. Great to hear all the gaels are on the mend.
There seemed to be some unsportsmanlike behaviour towards LW when going past me along the line at halftime. Was there any bad manners from him in the far corner at the end of the second half ?

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2015, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 15, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 14, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Knowing the county board they'll charge £4 in cos everyone only got a half yesterday

IMO there should be an open gate, with an entry collection for the refugee crisis, and ALL proceeds going to the Trócaire appeal, 91% bang for your buck. No fees or expenses to be taken.

Regarding the game, second half was shaping up to be real good. Great to hear all the gaels are on the mend.
There seemed to be some unsportsmanlike behaviour towards LW when going past me along the line at halftime. Was there any bad manners from him in the far corner at the end of the second half ?

Ref:
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BM


I think he has enough on his plate at the moment, but just to clarify, if you were watching previous to this then I think you will find it was a two way street.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 15, 2015, 09:53:45 AM
I've heard it rumored the charity would be the heart foundation since Liam and Neils Fathers both had heart trouble that weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
Just saw a tweet, free in to the game but voluntary donations will be collected for chest heart and stroke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2015, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
Just saw a tweet, free in to the game but voluntary donations will be collected for chest heart and stroke.

That is a really decent gesture so fair is fair. Add this to the Clothes collections last weekend and I think we can be a little proud of our organisation for a change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
Just saw a tweet, free in to the game but voluntary donations will be collected for chest heart and stroke.

excellent gesture by the county. hopefully people will dig deep at the gate and put the money to the charity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 15, 2015, 11:09:12 AM
It's been a tough few days for North Antrim Gaels. I have just been made aware of the passing of loughgiel hurler, Odhran McFadden's Mother. Sincere condolences to all the family and friends at this tough time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 15, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Fair play to the county board for doing the right thing. We give them criticism often enough so they deserve praise on this occasion.

Also deepest sympathies to Odhran and the McFadden family. I'm sure it was tough for him trying to prepare for the match on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
Heard that myself. Sympathies to the McFadden and Connolly families. Anne was a lovely lady
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2015, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
Just saw a tweet, free in to the game but voluntary donations will be collected for chest heart and stroke.

excellent gesture by the county. hopefully people will dig deep at the gate and put the money to the charity

I would have made it a fiver. The number of people who'll walk straight through (or fire in a handful of copper) will be embarrassing I reckon. The likes of Marie Curie could do with support as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 11:46:11 AM
was thinking that myself. there will be ones there who will turn up for it being free and not even dip for charity. Not alot that can be done tho.

Jaysus the traffic will be mental lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
Yes fair dues to those involved with the clothing & charity aspects - great to see.

Charity is a personal things lads - leave it up to people themselves - and personally I have more faith in society that people will contribute generously.

Really saddening incidents in the Glens recently - hopefully everyone comes out the other side as best possible.

On the hurling front - does anyone see either side changing much in response to the opening shots fired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 12:09:09 PM
There'll be more city folk this weekend with the free admission  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 12:21:14 PM
Shoebox after the way Graffin played last week if Watson lines out full back we'll be sending Graffin to full forward. Our management got the game plan right. Against a forward line as slick as Loughgiel you need to have a sweeper, crowd the half back line and midfield and strangle the supply to their inside forwards. However the game plan is only going to work if the players execute it properly, on Sunday our players did. Will Loughgiel make positional changes? Are we likely to see Martin Scullion and Benny McCarry start? Can we bring the same level of intensity this weekend? Again it's too hard to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2015, 12:28:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 12:09:09 PM
There'll be more city folk this weekend with the free admission  ;)

Now now, who keeps you North Antrim culchies going spending money on all those caravans and yella man ;D  ;D  ;D

We can't all use the red stuff either shoebox  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
i seen 5 mins of hurling on sunday with the traffic chaos and sorting cars out. hopefully i get to see the most of the match this time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 15, 2015, 12:47:28 PM
I'd say there will be some rush to get away after the match with the AI football final on the same day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 15, 2015, 12:47:28 PM
I'd say there will be some rush to get away after the match with the AI football final on the same day

I would imagine that there will be a bit more planning into routes into and away from Dunloy this time around so that delays and hold ups will be avoided as much as possible.

But the best cure probably is to leave plenty of time and get there early.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 15, 2015, 01:12:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
i seen 5 mins of hurling on sunday with the traffic chaos and sorting cars out. hopefully i get to see the most of the match this time!
Fair play to ya DR man. You, your club and fellow clubs members done a magnificent job on Sunday amid the unfortunate events.  The very essence of what our association is about, for many of us its integrity, respect, and consideration, and compassion towards fellow gaels, for some others, least said!

Dig deep on Sunday people for the ill, sick, in-firmed and less fortunate.  Cost me a fortune last Sunday, Me, me brother, the two boobies, me da, uncle and three kids.

Babhta de bualadh bos (isn't Google great?) to Dunloy!

Good luck to both teams on Sunday, may the best team win.  Can't make the game this Sunday due to a date in Croke Park with an 8 x 12 box, colleagues and family, but will be listening in on match reports.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 15, 2015, 01:14:08 PM
Didnt make it to the game on Sunday as our footballers played at the same time but il be make the short trip over the county border to see this one.
Nice gesture with the donations although I would have just made people pay in again and donate it direct to the charity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
exactly ... wait to you see the tight hoors who'll come through the gates on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2015, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
exactly ... wait to you see the tight hoors who'll come through the gates on Sunday

To be fair if they had charged as normal at the gate they would have faced accusations of taking a cut of the gate and all sorts, sometimes damned if you do....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 01:46:29 PM
exactly ... wait to you see the tight hoors who'll come through the gates on Sunday
"Free" you say...  ;D

Bound to be a record crowd now, especially if the weather is decent. Somebody in Dunloy should be getting programmes printed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
There only so much dunloy can do with the traffic
We can't phone every attender at there house and ask then which way are they coming in
There should be a notice on our  county website that all glens traffic access the village from Logan's or glarryford
That would help
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 02:07:08 PM
was thinking that myself. i suggested that sending ones from cdall one way and lgiel another at the end to try and ease the build up a the bottom of the station road. We should have something done and sorted for it all to make sure it runs even better. so long as we dont get any idiots parking in front of the chapel gates this time and blocking everyone in!

We will be pro's at it at this rate! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 15, 2015, 02:40:05 PM
as some say, should have charged a fiver and all that goes to charity.  But still good gesture all the same.

Most cars i saw coming from Cushendall came up behind logans, the biggest problem i encountered (not Dunloys fault) was getting out onto the Main Line at Logans, took me probably 15-20 mins.

The thing i would be worried about would be viewing, Dunloys wouldn't be a great pitch for viewing especially with a big crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 15, 2015, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 15, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
Bound to be a record crowd now, especially if the weather is decent. Somebody in Dunloy should be getting programmes printed!

::)

Maybe someone who's a paid employee of the GAA who's got all feckin week to do these things should be promoting the game as best he or she can. I'd be happy to see a sheet with the players full names. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 03:31:42 PM
I'm amazed we are doing more talking about traffic than hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
haha its what annoyed people most from last weekend. If its not our pitch its the traffic! :P lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 15, 2015, 03:38:33 PM
Pitch was grand and as for the traffic gurners,thousands of cars were converging in a small rural village, what did you think was going to happen? Get to Dunloy early and into Pappy's for the best soda bread in the world!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 15, 2015, 03:41:18 PM
Will be genuinely interesting to see how Sunday goes, think LG have a lot of questions over them after their first half performance. But the there is no guarantee that it will work out the same way as it was going in the first game.

Can Cushendall get back to the same level? Will LG change shape to counteract etc

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Is a week long enough for LG to sort out all that was wrong
The only difference now is LG know what's coming down the tracks
CDall got all there match ups right and the sweeper was working a treat
LG always relied on creating space for there forwards but that did happen
The looked a bit dead on there feet compared to Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Is a week long enough for LG to sort out all that was wrong
The only difference now is LG know what's coming down the tracks
CDall got all there match ups right and the sweeper was working a treat
LG always relied on creating space for there forwards but that did happen
The looked a bit dead on there feet compared to Dall

Was chatting to a few lgiel fans last week coming up to the game and they were scared of burn out and that they had peaked too early. TBH i didnt think that but from talking to my dad who watched the first half he echoed what you posted that they were out on their feet.

Against ST Galls i wasn't impressed with them if im honest, the midfield got taken out of the game and the same appears to have happened sunday past.

The only thing is that they now know what Cdall came at them with and can work on it. The only thing is whether they have it in them to win because Cdall will approach the game knowing they have it in them to beat Lgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
There's no doubt we started bad on Sunday.  As we did the week before against St Galls.  By my clock there was 28 mins left to play.  5 points is 5 points granted.  But we weren't dead and buried like some have suggested.     I'd expect more from us this weekend.  Thank god Hugh and paddy are ok, puts things into perspective. Another note, the appointment of a new county manager has went stale.  Any more chat of this.  Or is it PJs when he decides he wants it or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
There's no doubt we started bad on Sunday.  As we did the week before against St Galls.  By my clock there was 28 mins left to play.  5 points is 5 points granted.  But we weren't dead and buried like some have suggested.     I'd expect more from us this weekend.  Thank god Hugh and paddy are ok, puts things into perspective. Another note, the appointment of a new county manager has went stale.  Any more chat of this.  Or is it PJs when he decides he wants it or not?

The was still a a half game to play for sure so we will never know
It wasn't the 5 points I was thinking of it was the one point from play in 30 minutes of hurling
Dall defence looked more stable and up front Eddie was forced forced to shoot out on the wings with a man on usually
Graffan had watson in his pocket like he does with most forwards
I personally couldn't see a way back if the game continued
Everything is on reset now and I would expect I tighter game with LG with a bit more energy
But my money is on cusendall
No one more surprised than me to say that
LG where my favourites up to last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 05:05:02 PM
SG do you know if PJ put his name forward for the county job
I have heard nothing on the subject for weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
sure we will never no. If loughgiel do win Sunday it will be a case of what if for Cdall.  If they don't.  It's maybe us gone for a year or two, depending on what this young town team does.     On the PJ front. It's a case of waiting and seeing I suppose.  It's just the chat had dried up and am yet to here of solid interest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on September 15, 2015, 05:40:58 PM
Re PJ and the Antrim job. Interested to hear if people think that he could be the answer. Great record with the Shamrocks, but the bitterness between the North Antrim clubs is contriving to hold us back forever, not to mention the City clubs rivalry and the North Antrim v City bias.

The response to the near tragedies at the weekend was absolutely outstanding. Wouldn't it be great if it was like this all of the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 15, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
It would indeed, a real sense of togetherness.   Could do with it to appear at senior county level.  We can but dream. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 05:55:45 PM
Sure did one of our fellow posters not say that he'll never get the manager's job? I was also led to believe that he wouldn't be on the sideline last Sunday either,  according to some on here.  Seems some people know better than others.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 15, 2015, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 15, 2015, 09:06:34 PM
I was saying the same thing regarding the softening of attitudes. Last thing we need here is another bitching session. I had hoped that the weekends events might have had an effect that brought people together again.

Some people just can't help themselves
Best to turn a blind eye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2015, 09:27:58 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 05:55:45 PM
Sure did one of our fellow posters not say that he'll never get the manager's job? I was also led to believe that he wouldn't be on the sideline last Sunday either,  according to some on here.  Seems some people know better than others.  ;)

im saying nothing  :-X ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 16, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
Leave the past behind you all for goodness sake, keep looking back and you will trip over the past!

Has the past week not demonstrated how good we can be with co-operation, empathy, compassion and togetherness on all counts?
When good people put aside bitterness and rivalry, good things do happen, that has been proven this week.

Sure look at RD, he has turned into a pacifist also, not going to meet/batter me now. Well, I have not had the invitation to meet as yet, so assuming there has been a mellowing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2015, 11:27:05 AM
What date is the senior final on?

Any dates for it yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
As per the original plan it was to be on Sunday week 27th Sept.

Dont know if the weekends events will alter that in anyway now though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 16, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Is it extra time or a replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 16, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Is it extra time or a replay?

I'm inclined to say extra time.. I know all minor games and junior/intermediate are extra time if a draw.. senior? not completely sure on that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2015, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 16, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Is it extra time or a replay?

I'm inclined to say extra time.. I know all minor games and junior/intermediate are extra time if a draw.. senior? not completely sure on that

well considering that the first game was declared and void and this one being seen as a brand new game, I would be inclined to go with replay but it would be worth checking beforehand as extra time might be in now with the tighter schedules.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 16, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Is it extra time or a replay?

I'm inclined to say extra time.. I know all minor games and junior/intermediate are extra time if a draw.. senior? not completely sure on that

The minor football final didn't go to extra time there on Saturday?

Ti Cuchullain will be showing the AI football matches straight after its all by, so no need to rush away. Bring a designated driver.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2015, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 16, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
Is it extra time or a replay?

I'm inclined to say extra time.. I know all minor games and junior/intermediate are extra time if a draw.. senior? not completely sure on that

The minor football final didn't go to extra time there on Saturday?

Ti Cuchullain will be showing the AI football matches straight after its all by, so no need to rush away. Bring a designated driver.

Finals go to replay not the quarters or semi's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2015, 03:59:50 PM
gotcha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on September 16, 2015, 04:51:05 PM
Gortnamona and Cregan semi final went to extra time. I think semi finals go to extra time, with the championship final  scheduled for the following week I would think extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 17, 2015, 09:42:39 AM
Lads, its not just a matter of saying we have to play extra time due to a tight schedule, as these things are set out at the start of the year!!

6 Extra time will be played in the following championships, up to and including
semi-final stages: Minor, U21 Junior, Intermediate Football & Hurling and all
reserve competitions.
Extra time will be played in all Championship / Reserve Final replays.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2015-Championship-regulations.pdf

Quote from: getevennotcross on September 16, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
Leave the past behind you all for goodness sake, keep looking back and you will trip over the past!

Has the past week not demonstrated how good we can be with co-operation, empathy, compassion and togetherness on all counts?
When good people put aside bitterness and rivalry, good things do happen, that has been proven this week.


not often i agree with u geteven, but it has been great advert for our wee county this last week, pity that doesnt make as big a story as bad news stories. as much as the 2 teams and the host club from last week dont see eye to eye when playing, to put it mildly, what has been said & done by them all in the last week, shows there is a mutual respect off the pitch. come sunday their rivalry will be as fierce as ever again, but they do respect eachother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2015, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 17, 2015, 09:42:39 AM
Lads, its not just a matter of saying we have to play extra time due to a tight schedule, as these things are set out at the start of the year!!

6 Extra time will be played in the following championships, up to and including
semi-final stages: Minor, U21 Junior, Intermediate Football & Hurling and all
reserve competitions.
Extra time will be played in all Championship / Reserve Final replays.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2015-Championship-regulations.pdf

Quote from: getevennotcross on September 16, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
Leave the past behind you all for goodness sake, keep looking back and you will trip over the past!

Has the past week not demonstrated how good we can be with co-operation, empathy, compassion and togetherness on all counts?
When good people put aside bitterness and rivalry, good things do happen, that has been proven this week.


not often i agree with u geteven, but it has been great advert for our wee county this last week, pity that doesnt make as big a story as bad news stories. as much as the 2 teams and the host club from last week dont see eye to eye when playing, to put it mildly, what has been said & done by them all in the last week, shows there is a mutual respect off the pitch. come sunday their rivalry will be as fierce as ever again, but they do respect eachother.

In terms of the hurling there is simply no panic to get this played (in the event of a draw and replay being requoired), the Munster and Leinster clubs championships frequently run in too December, so why do we need to have the whole shop closed up Ulster included by mid October?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2015, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2015, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on September 17, 2015, 09:42:39 AM
Lads, its not just a matter of saying we have to play extra time due to a tight schedule, as these things are set out at the start of the year!!

6 Extra time will be played in the following championships, up to and including
semi-final stages: Minor, U21 Junior, Intermediate Football & Hurling and all
reserve competitions.
Extra time will be played in all Championship / Reserve Final replays.

http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2015-Championship-regulations.pdf

Quote from: getevennotcross on September 16, 2015, 10:41:20 AM
Leave the past behind you all for goodness sake, keep looking back and you will trip over the past!

Has the past week not demonstrated how good we can be with co-operation, empathy, compassion and togetherness on all counts?
When good people put aside bitterness and rivalry, good things do happen, that has been proven this week.


not often i agree with u geteven, but it has been great advert for our wee county this last week, pity that doesnt make as big a story as bad news stories. as much as the 2 teams and the host club from last week dont see eye to eye when playing, to put it mildly, what has been said & done by them all in the last week, shows there is a mutual respect off the pitch. come sunday their rivalry will be as fierce as ever again, but they do respect eachother.

In terms of the hurling there is simply no panic to get this played (in the event of a draw and replay being requoired), the Munster and Leinster clubs championships frequently run in too December, so why do we need to have the whole shop closed up Ulster included by mid October?

I could never understand that myself, although you do run into the shittier weather the further into winter you go, normally.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 17, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
Get it played early and let teams play on as good a surface as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
There aren't exactly county commitments that keep hurling in ulster going so long that championship matches need to be played in winter though.

Our football should be played long before now too but I'm guessing it's just to meet with ulster schedules due to other potentially successful counties...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
There aren't exactly county commitments that keep hurling in ulster going so long that championship matches need to be played in winter though.

Our football should be played long before now too but I'm guessing it's just to meet with ulster schedules due to other potentially successful counties...

Was there not talk about having this all done in the calendar year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2015, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
There aren't exactly county commitments that keep hurling in ulster going so long that championship matches need to be played in winter though.

Our football should be played long before now too but I'm guessing it's just to meet with ulster schedules due to other potentially successful counties...

Was there not talk about having this all done in the calendar year?

I thought that was coming in, in the next year or so as an experiment, might be wrong on that though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2015, 02:00:38 PM
I've heard rumours to but am not sure on the detail.

Hurling is far better in the summer months. Football is too but I guess the county calendar causes the issue.

When you see the likes of junior championships etc only in early stages you do wonder . Players want to be training and playing in the summer not the winter plus it would help for spectators too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 17, 2015, 03:45:23 PM
Lets be honest, were not in the championships long enough to be worrying about delaying our club championships!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
QuoteThe structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.

The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 – 8 Teams
Division 3 – Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015


I was just totting this up in my head this leaves the new division 3 with 12 teams in it, that's 24 matches plus championship for the lower teams that's a heck of a lot of games. Unless there's some form of split system going to be deployed?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
QuoteThe structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.

The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 – 8 Teams
Division 3 – Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015


I was just totting this up in my head this leaves the new division 3 with 12 teams in it, that's 24 matches plus championship for the lower teams that's a heck of a lot of games. Unless there's some form of split system going to be deployed?

How so? 4 teams are being relegated from Div2 and the top 4 from the current Div3 are staying put.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 17, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
QuoteThe structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.

The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 – 8 Teams
Division 3 – Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015


I was just totting this up in my head this leaves the new division 3 with 12 teams in it, that's 24 matches plus championship for the lower teams that's a heck of a lot of games. Unless there's some form of split system going to be deployed?

How so? 4 teams are being relegated from Div2 and the top 4 from the current Div3 are staying put.

36 teams in all 4 divisions currently. 8 each are making up the top 3 divisions the rest are bottom div

36 - 24 is 12

Unless I'm totally taken it up wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 17, 2015, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 17, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 17, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
QuoteThe structure of the All County Hurling Leagues in 2016 will be changed as a result of a motion passed at County convention 2014.

The make up of the leagues starting in 2016 will be:

Division 1A – 8 Teams
Division 1B – 8 Teams
Division 2 – 8 Teams
Division 3 – Remaining teams

To enable this to happen the games played in this years league (2015) will form the basis of who plays in each Division in 2016.

At the conclusion of the 2015 leagues ,the top finishing 8 teams in Division 1 will make up the Division 1A in 2016.

Division 1B (2016) will be made up of teams that finish in 9th and 10th position in Division 1 (2015) plus the top 6 teams finishing in Division 2 (2015).

Division 2 (2016) will be made up of teams that finish 7th,8th,9th and 10th in Division 2 (2015) plus the teams that finish in position 1,2,3 and 4 in Division 3 (2015).

Division 3 (2016) will be made up of the remaining teams who play in Division 3 (2015) plus Division 4 (2015)

The winners of leagues 1,2,3 and 4 will be awarded the League Trophy and medals in 2015


I was just totting this up in my head this leaves the new division 3 with 12 teams in it, that's 24 matches plus championship for the lower teams that's a heck of a lot of games. Unless there's some form of split system going to be deployed?

How so? 4 teams are being relegated from Div2 and the top 4 from the current Div3 are staying put.

36 teams in all 4 divisions currently. 8 each are making up the top 3 divisions the rest are bottom div

36 - 24 is 12

Unless I'm totally taken it up wrong?

Ah,
You're right, I was still using the old Div1, Div2 thing rather than Div1a, Div1b...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
So fellas, whats the preductions for Sundays game now?  Have the Dall shown their best hand too early or do Loughgiel take the wake up call and obliterate Dalĺs false hope?

One thing for sure, I just cant see Loughgiel shooting 10 wides again and being slow out of the blocks!  Either way, just hope its a good game.  I would anticipate a lot of whinging from the Dall should they not prevail this time around. Mark my words, should the Dall lose, the crap and bitterness is sure to get an airing. 

Still have not heard from RD - Red Dog, a sleeping dog maybe. I could have met him last Sunday by arrangement in Dunloy?  Sadly I wont be there due to Croke Finale, but hapoy to put some manners in RD at a date and time of his choosing!

Good luck to both teams on Sunday anyway. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 17, 2015, 07:22:47 PM
£6 million quid.
And the only thing to show for it is our executive's incompetence.
And our inability to hold them to account.
That's £6 million quid I say.
Staggering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2015, 07:22:47 PM
£6 million quid.
And the only thing to show for it is our executive's incompetence.
And our inability to hold them to account.
That's £6 million quid I say.
Staggering.
jeez man, thats a bit random? Whats on your mind pal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2015, 07:22:47 PM
£6 million quid.
And the only thing to show for it is our executive's incompetence.
And our inability to hold them to account.
That's £6 million quid I say.
Staggering.
jeez man, thats a bit random? Whats on your mind pal?
DCAL have spent that amount to date on Casement and not so much as a sod lifted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 17, 2015, 07:22:47 PM
£6 million quid.
And the only thing to show for it is our executive's incompetence.
And our inability to hold them to account.
That's £6 million quid I say.
Staggering.
jeez man, thats a bit random? Whats on your mind pal?
DCAL have spent that amount to date on Casement and not so much as a sod lifted.
ah sure I knew that, thought it may have been a bit scandal or the Shinners syphoning it off creatively! Such things do not alarm me in our corrupt, deceitful  society. Nature of the beast and all that. Sorry for sounding cynical, but experience and past history is difficult to ignore. Anyway, onwards and upwards eh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 17, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
F##k sake, who put 50p in getevennotcross again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
So fellas, whats the preductions for Sundays game now?  Have the Dall shown their best hand too early or do Loughgiel take the wake up call and obliterate Dalĺs false hope?

One thing for sure, I just cant see Loughgiel shooting 10 wides again and being slow out of the blocks!  Either way, just hope its a good game. I would anticipate a lot of whinging from the Dall should they not prevail this time around. Mark my words, should the Dall lose, the crap and bitterness is sure to get an airing. 

Still have not heard from RD - Red Dog, a sleeping dog maybe. I could have met him last Sunday by arrangement in Dunloy?  Sadly I wont be there due to Croke Finale, but hapoy to put some manners in RD at a date and time of his choosing!

Good luck to both teams on Sunday anyway.
I find this comment pretty wrong. Most sensible people in Cushendall were perhaps frustrated that the match was abandoned as the team was going well, but understand 100% why it was called off. I don't think anyone would be bitter, well they shouldn't be. A few of our players have personally been affected by the loss of family members due to heart problems and there was another close call on Saturday. I  actually find your comment disgusting..maybe i'm over reacting though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
So fellas, whats the preductions for Sundays game now?  Have the Dall shown their best hand too early or do Loughgiel take the wake up call and obliterate Dalĺs false hope?

One thing for sure, I just cant see Loughgiel shooting 10 wides again and being slow out of the blocks!  Either way, just hope its a good game. I would anticipate a lot of whinging from the Dall should they not prevail this time around. Mark my words, should the Dall lose, the crap and bitterness is sure to get an airing. 

Still have not heard from RD - Red Dog, a sleeping dog maybe. I could have met him last Sunday by arrangement in Dunloy?  Sadly I wont be there due to Croke Finale, but hapoy to put some manners in RD at a date and time of his choosing!

Good luck to both teams on Sunday anyway.
I find this comment pretty wrong. Most sensible people in Cushendall were perhaps frustrated that the match was abandoned as the team was going well, but understand 100% why it was called off. I don't think anyone would be bitter, well they shouldn't be. A few of our players have personally been affected by the loss of family members due to heart problems and there was another close call on Saturday. I  actually find your comment disgusting..maybe i'm over reacting though.
No, not at all, I dont think you are over reacting at all. Your'e entitled to an opinion THFFS, as am I.

Just a view I have, which was never intended to cause offence, just expressing a view that the crap will surely surface come Sunday regardless.  Watch this space!

As I said also, glad that individuals from borh camps are recovering and returning to health. 

You shouldn't take things so literal or personal, I don't, more thick skin and broad shouldered.  Honesty and truth will always win, belive me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
genc

The Donald Trump of Antrim hurling  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
genc

The Donald Trump of Antrim hurling  :)
I like it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 17, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
And that tells the tale of genc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 17, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2015, 10:27:04 PM
genc

The Donald Trump of Antrim hurling  :)
I like it!
You have to admit it, she is bloody ugly though! Donald is just sayjng what the rest are afraid to say, see - honesty and truth, some dont like it  at all, but still best policy.

Corbyn, Donald, wee Joe. Dont rule it out!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Don's as honest as his feckin hairdo


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 18, 2015, 12:36:01 AM
3 good hurling games this weekend, with the SHC semi final and the IHC And JHC finals..
I predict

Loughiel vs Cushendall.. Loughiel
Carey vs Creggan        -- Carey
St Treases vs Rasharkin -- Rasharkin

thoughts??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2015, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on September 18, 2015, 12:36:01 AM
3 good hurling games this weekend, with the SHC semi final and the IHC And JHC finals..
I predict

Loughiel vs Cushendall.. Loughiel
Carey vs Creggan        -- Carey
St Treases vs Rasharkin -- Rasharkin

thoughts??

Fancy lgiel to win if they sort their problems out in midfield. Last two games they have been taken to the cleaners in it so if they play LW in their they will turn the game. If not then Cdall should win.

Carey should have too much in the intermediate final tho its good to see the progress creggan have made from junior upwards

Rasharkin for the junior final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 10:41:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.

I would say he might be watching Graffin for the first half of the match anyway and then introduced accordingly.

Interesting tactical set up now, who blinks first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
Can't understand Loughgiel at all, they have given a few of their younger players a chance all year (and they have proved themselves), come Championship - its back to as close as possible to the 2012 All Ireland winning team.

Loughgiel just don't seem to have the answers, Cushendall have out played and out witted them last year and done so again for half of the abandoned game.  Not that it isn't plain to be seen, but it just proves how much Loughgiel miss Jim Nelson's (RIP) input/influence for the tactical side of things.

Cushendall to out smart and out play them once again - Loughgiel to finish the game with less than 15 players and maybe one less on the side!   

Christy to score the first goal.

If you like a punt, best to get on Cushendall now - their odds have been cut significantly over the past few days but are still super value at 9/4 or 5/2 to win this game!




 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
Can't understand Loughgiel at all, they have given a few of their younger players a chance all year (and they have proved themselves), come Championship - its back to as close as possible to the 2012 All Ireland winning team.

Loughgiel just don't seem to have the answers, Cushendall have out played and out witted them last year and done so again for half of the abandoned game.  Not that it isn't plain to be seen, but it just proves how much Loughgiel miss Jim Nelson's (RIP) input/influence for the tactical side of things.

Cushendall to out smart and out play them once again - Loughgiel to finish the game with less than 15 players and maybe one less on the side!   

Christy to score the first goal.

If you like a punt, best to get on Cushendall now - their odds have been cut significantly over the past few days but are still super value at 9/4 or 5/2 to win this game!






Very dangerous predictions there, fuelling the LG fires or maybe that was the intention.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
Can't understand Loughgiel at all, they have given a few of their younger players a chance all year (and they have proved themselves), come Championship - its back to as close as possible to the 2012 All Ireland winning team.

Loughgiel just don't seem to have the answers, Cushendall have out played and out witted them last year and done so again for half of the abandoned game.  Not that it isn't plain to be seen, but it just proves how much Loughgiel miss Jim Nelson's (RIP) input/influence for the tactical side of things.

Cushendall to out smart and out play them once again - Loughgiel to finish the game with less than 15 players and maybe one less on the side!   

Christy to score the first goal.

If you like a punt, best to get on Cushendall now - their odds have been cut significantly over the past few days but are still super value at 9/4 or 5/2 to win this game!






Very dangerous predictions there, fuelling the LG fires or maybe that was the intention.  ;)

Nothing dangerous about them - just an educated guess as to how things may pan out.

Cushendall will have enough fire fighters anyhow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)

Is this true though SIE? You may not be as informed as you think you are!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)

Is this true though SIE? You may not be as informed as you think you are!
it would appear I'm better informed than you. Pj wasn't suspended.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 18, 2015, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on September 18, 2015, 12:36:01 AM
3 good hurling games this weekend, with the SHC semi final and the IHC And JHC finals..
I predict

Loughiel vs Cushendall.. Loughiel Cushendall, think they'll still be able to get under loughgiel's skin
Carey vs Creggan        -- Carey Creggan, they are well used to a final and will have their preferred 15 starting which hasn't always been the case in the league
St Treases vs Rasharkin -- Rasharkin St.Theresa's, any big game between these 2 in recent years St.Ts have won. This will weigh on Rasharkin


thoughts??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 18, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
Can't understand Loughgiel at all, they have given a few of their younger players a chance all year (and they have proved themselves), come Championship - its back to as close as possible to the 2012 All Ireland winning team.

Loughgiel just don't seem to have the answers, Cushendall have out played and out witted them last year and done so again for half of the abandoned game.  Not that it isn't plain to be seen, but it just proves how much Loughgiel miss Jim Nelson's (RIP) input/influence for the tactical side of things.

Cushendall to out smart and out play them once again - Loughgiel to finish the game with less than 15 players and maybe one less on the side!   

Christy to score the first goal.

If you like a punt, best to get on Cushendall now - their odds have been cut significantly over the past few days but are still super value at 9/4 or 5/2 to win this game!


This puzzled me as well.  Couldn't believe none of Sian McGrath, Ronan McCloskey, Damon McMullan, Dan McCloskey or Maol Connolly started the last day.  I'd be amazed if that's the case this time around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.

yeah was thinking that as well but that would play to LW, hes more adapt at playing that role in the middle.

Interesting battle!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.

yeah was thinking that as well but that would play to LW, hes more adapt at playing that role in the middle.

Interesting battle!

DR when if ever did he play MF for LG? Im struggling to think of a time other than fleeting instances during a game when he was naturally there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2015, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.

yeah was thinking that as well but that would play to LW, hes more adapt at playing that role in the middle.

Interesting battle!

DR when if ever did he play MF for LG? Im struggling to think of a time other than fleeting instances during a game when he was naturally there.

agianst St Galls, came on into the middle when they were struggling and basically turned the game in Lgiels favour. I thought he has a good second half and was basically the diff in them winning the game.

Prior to that they lost that battle big time.

SIE would know when hes played in MF for them in the league. Im nearly certain ive seen him lined out there a few times. Usually he has occupied either 10 or 14 for lgiel over the years.

I personally think he would be a good midfielder as he uses the ball well and has the ability to hurl with the head up. The legs might not be there now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2015, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2015, 10:20:29 AM
If Watson hurls midfield we'll just send Graffin after him.

yeah was thinking that as well but that would play to LW, hes more adapt at playing that role in the middle.

Interesting battle!

DR when if ever did he play MF for LG? Im struggling to think of a time other than fleeting instances during a game when he was naturally there.

agianst St Galls, came on into the middle when they were struggling and basically turned the game in Lgiels favour. I thought he has a good second half and was basically the diff in them winning the game.

Prior to that they lost that battle big time.

SIE would know when hes played in MF for them in the league. Im nearly certain ive seen him lined out there a few times. Usually he has occupied either 10 or 14 for lgiel over the years.

I personally think he would be a good midfielder as he uses the ball well and has the ability to hurl with the head up. The legs might not be there now.

Like all good scoring forwards, keep them as far away from the goals as possible  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
He played midfield in 2013 for a few games and was very effective. Personally I'd like to see him in the half forwards with the freedom to move about where he wants.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
He played midfield in 2013 for a few games and was very effective. Personally I'd like to see him in the half forwards with the freedom to move about where he wants.

He won't get much freedom on Sunday I'd imagine :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
He played midfield in 2013 for a few games and was very effective. Personally I'd like to see him in the half forwards with the freedom to move about where he wants.

He won't get much freedom on Sunday I'd imagine :o
hopefully all within the rules of the game.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
He played midfield in 2013 for a few games and was very effective. Personally I'd like to see him in the half forwards with the freedom to move about where he wants.

He won't get much freedom on Sunday I'd imagine :o
hopefully all within the rules of the game.  ;)

On both parts I'd imagine, no shrieking violet Liam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 06:06:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
He played midfield in 2013 for a few games and was very effective. Personally I'd like to see him in the half forwards with the freedom to move about where he wants.

He won't get much freedom on Sunday I'd imagine :o
hopefully all within the rules of the game.  ;)

On both parts I'd imagine, no shrieking violet Liam
definitely not, only one shrieker on the field.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 19, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
You'd be better worrying about the great one staying on the field for the duration of the game than any unfair attention he might get. He was doing his best to get the line last weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 19, 2015, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
You'd be better worrying about the great one staying on the field for the duration of the game than any unfair attention he might get. He was doing his best to get the line last weekend.
Isn't perspective amazing? I'm not going down this path with you JJ, let's just say your captain ain't no angel either.  ;)

I hope tomorrow's game passes off with no major incidents, on or off the field. Good luck to both teams and may the best team win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 19, 2015, 08:12:24 AM
We'll just have to agree to disagree SIE. Although we'd both be bias in this situation, interesting to hear what the neutrals think. May the best team win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2015, 10:01:32 AM
I can see plenty of changes on the Loughgiel starting 15 tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 19, 2015, 08:58:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2015, 07:54:01 AM
You'd be better worrying about the great one staying on the field for the duration of the game than any unfair attention he might get. He was doing his best to get the line last weekend.
JJ - a nuetrals perspective for ya:   Catch a grip would ya, he got plenty of unfair attention last Sunday, everyone knows that.  IMO the ref, didn't do him any favours nor his umpires or linesmen. I dont often criticise officials as they have a difficult enough job, but certainly thought Winker a few other Louhhgiel boys were getting rough treatment.  Ref. needs to have eyes in the back of his head at times but at least be consistent/fair and dont cave in to overzealous and loud mouth rabble from Dall fans. Me being nuetral, its of no consequence to me of course, may the best team win. Sorry I cant be there tomorrow as I'm in Croke. 

Loughgiel by 2+, just think they will redeem their premiere status after last week and will restore order to things.

Still cant help but predict there will be some gurnin from Dall rabble beyond 14.30 tomorrow.  The result will tell no doubt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
How long would it take to walk from the bridge bar to dunloy hurling pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 19, 2015, 09:50:13 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
How long would it take to walk from the bridge bar to dunloy hurling pitch?

10 mins - depending on Alco consumption though !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
How long would it take to walk from the bridge bar to dunloy hurling pitch?

half an hour

It's 2 miles away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)

Is this true though SIE? You may not be as informed as you think you are!
it would appear I'm better informed than you. Pj wasn't suspended.

A high ranking official I was speaking to would beg to differ.

One of my predictions may already have come true, if a certain suspended person takes the field today he could be in for a hefty additional suspension.  We'll see who really knows what they are talking about.  SIE why don't you tell all the people you defend on here to come on and do it themselves? That's really your only purpose on here. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)

Is this true though SIE? You may not be as informed as you think you are!
it would appear I'm better informed than you. Pj wasn't suspended.

A high ranking official I was speaking to would beg to differ.

One of my predictions may already have come true, if a certain suspended person takes the field today he could be in for a hefty additional suspension.  We'll see who really knows what they are talking about.  SIE why don't you tell all the people you defend on here to come on and do it themselves? That's really your only purpose on here.

Whether he's suspended or not do you really think that it will make a difference?? Once those players get over the white line they should execute the game plan that they have been told to do...

The rugby coaches sit upstairs and communicate with others who run on to the pitch, if you can watch from a higher position you'll see a lot more...

What PJ did should be punished and he should have taken his punishment at the start.... I've not encountered too much of that crap... Wouldn't stand for it, I've sent off a few managers over the years, they (and when I managed) get carried away, every club has had a manager that's abused a referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2015, 09:48:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 18, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 18, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 17, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 17, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 15, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I'd think he'd be interested if things can be sorted out within the whole county set up, but not until loughgiel are out of the championship his suspension has lapsed of course. One thing for sure, he'll give it his all if he does end up County manager.

He'll will probably be on the line again on Sunday but he can't keep putting off the inevitable - he will be at a loose end after Sunday anyway.
he wasn't suspended.  ::)

Is this true though SIE? You may not be as informed as you think you are!
it would appear I'm better informed than you. Pj wasn't suspended.

A high ranking official I was speaking to would beg to differ.

One of my predictions may already have come true, if a certain suspended person takes the field today he could be in for a hefty additional suspension.  We'll see who really knows what they are talking about.  SIE why don't you tell all the people you defend on here to come on and do it themselves? That's really your only purpose on here.

Whether he's suspended or not do you really think that it will make a difference?? Once those players get over the white line they should execute the game plan that they have been told to do...

The rugby coaches sit upstairs and communicate with others who run on to the pitch, if you can watch from a higher position you'll see a lot more...

What PJ did should be punished and he should have taken his punishment at the start.... I've not encountered too much of that crap... Wouldn't stand for it, I've sent off a few managers over the years, they (and when I managed) get carried away, every club has had a manager that's abused a referee

Of course it won't really make a difference but it obviously seems to be an issue from some quarters, the lengths they are going to, to cover it up.





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 20, 2015, 09:53:43 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 20, 2015, 09:38:54 AM
I think Loughgiel will make a few changes in personnel but I can't see anything other than like for like. I would expect them to make a change or two in the inside forward line. They haven't been winning enough ball. I'd expect LW to stay between the FF and HF line although I think they should bring him out and get Graffin out of his comfort area (if he does indeed follow him out). They will need to take their scores from distance though with the Dall using their sweeper. Thats where Eddie McCloskey will be important. He missed a few bad ones last week from the HF line but looked to me that he might have been carrying an injury.

Looking forward to it. Note to all you free riders, make sure you give a couple of quid to the charities.

Including the official manager on the sideline :-)

Dall by 6!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Here's a crazy idea .....Loughiel could resort to the format that made them unbeatable all year. Tony McCloskey back into full back and start with the same 6 forwards that played all year. Changing a winning formula has cost teams in the past.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2015, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 20, 2015, 09:38:54 AM
I think Loughgiel will make a few changes in personnel but I can't see anything other than like for like. I would expect them to make a change or two in the inside forward line. They haven't been winning enough ball. I'd expect LW to stay between the FF and HF line although I think they should bring him out and get Graffin out of his comfort area (if he does indeed follow him out). They will need to take their scores from distance though with the Dall using their sweeper. Thats where Eddie McCloskey will be important. He missed a few bad ones last week from the HF line but looked to me that he might have been carrying an injury.

Looking forward to it. Note to all you free riders, make sure you give a couple of quid to the charities.

Too much time reading right wing press shoe box?
I think you under-estimate people and Gaels!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Well hirtydarry, you eventually got your way  It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people will go to try to get an advantage.  Everything I posted was correct by the way. He wasn't suspended for the last game. Your predictions are the stuff of legend.  ;)

I hear Rory McCarroll does a great price for scaffolding. Best view in the field.  ;D

As I've been posting all year, Cushendall are the team to beat. They have to be massive favourites for this match after last week's performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 01:35:47 PM
Scores??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on September 20, 2015, 02:18:23 PM
must be well into 2nd half now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: ardtole on September 20, 2015, 02:18:23 PM
must be well into 2nd half now

Must be no signal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 02:26:48 PM
Cushendall won apparently. Don't know the score.

Centenary year for Loughgiel too... Bummer for them but well done Cushendall... Champions elect?? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 20, 2015, 02:33:04 PM
Cushendall 0.15 loughgiel 0.14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
Fair play. Deserved winners. Loughiel were shocking with a big wind in the 2nd half. Ryan McCambridge and Aaron Graffin were immense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
How do Ballycastle then fair up against Cushendall?? Again hats off to Cushendall considering the injuries and poor (by their standards) form this year..

Loughgiel final venue I'd imagine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
Congrats to Cushendall. Played the better hurling when it mattered at the end of the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
I think Dunloy would be the choice for the final. Plenty of room around the field for spectators and parking. Plus more parking outside the field in the other car parks and plenty of roads to get out. Great organisation by all in Dunloy today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 20, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
PJ has stood down according to Co Antrim Post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 20, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
PJ has stood down according to Co Antrim Post
Aye. He doesn't owe anything to anyone in loughgiel. 4 Antrim and Ulster titles and an all Ireland, speaks for itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 20, 2015, 03:10:18 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 20, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
PJ has stood down according to Co Antrim Post
Aye. He doesn't owe anything to anyone in loughgiel. 4 Antrim and Ulster titles and an all Ireland, speaks for itself.
Antrim manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
I think Dunloy would be the choice for the final. Plenty of room around the field for spectators and parking. Plus more parking outside the field in the other car parks and plenty of roads to get out. Great organisation by all in Dunloy today.

100% agree SIE. Stewards couldn't of been more helpful or courteous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on September 20, 2015, 04:59:38 PM
Good luck to cdall and ballycastle next weekend, am going to say Dall by 8, there backs are battle hardened, and for me ballycastle will be to light up front.    I here PJ is gone for the pay cheque from the county. Past few years it's showed up who was the mastermind behind our domination, PJ is very good at man management but would need good hurling men with him to take this current county set up,  I can't see a few of last years "stars" playing for him,  but time will tell.  Also, who's gonna take the loughgiel job, surely a few sets of boots will be hung up, few young and able lads there that hurled well all year but got hard done by come championship.  Interesting times ahead. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2015, 05:20:57 PM
Disappointing end to PJs tender but he has done more than his fair share of good within the parish as past 6 years.  4 Antrims 4 Ulsters and 1 All Ireland.   Thanks for the memories  :D

Best of luck to ballycastle in there first final for 13 or 14 years and to Cdall who deserved there win today.  Few lads prob retire now and few young talented lads to come in.  Up the Shamrocks!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ManInBlackandGreen on September 20, 2015, 05:35:13 PM
PJ will be getting no county job, allegedly our county secretary has been running on the QT down to Kilkenny offering the TRINITY mens funding to this profiled individual,  he's stiffing  PJ and for a club as strong as Loughguile to let him behave in such a manner beggars belief,  but hey don't worry the wee  chairman that never will be will have a word!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Jesus no wonder we are a laughing stock up and down the island.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 20, 2015, 05:40:52 PM
Ah well, fair play to the Dall, mostly likely implode again though and get beat in Ulster.  I heard Loughgiel lost it on the line today, ahead at half time, wind advantage in 2nd half and just couldn't crack on.  Kerry lost it on the line today also IMHO.

Makes for an interesting final though, Dall v BC,again may the best team win.  Probably a just outcome that Dall win today, not sure we could all have stood the gurnin had they come up short.  Well, off to the Grove in Dunleer for me steak!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
Whoever gets the Antrim job is going to have a tough time of it. It would be great if we could all move on from the debacle that was Kevin Ryan's tenure. He has left a feeling of ill will behind him in this County that I've never experienced before. Yes, there have always been rivalries, but I've never known a manager to be as arrogant as he was or as stubborn.

Btw, I forgot to wish Cushendall good luck for the final. Ballycastle will have their work cut out against a well drilled defensive unit. It should be an interesting encounter. I hear it's in Dunloy next Sunday. Does anyone know for definite?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on September 20, 2015, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: ManInBlackandGreen on September 20, 2015, 05:35:13 PM
PJ will be getting no county job, allegedly our county secretary has been running on the QT down to Kilkenny offering the TRINITY mens funding to this profiled individual,  he's stiffing  PJ and for a club as strong as Loughguile to let him behave in such a manner beggars belief,  but hey don't worry the wee  chairman that never will be will have a word!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Jesus no wonder we are a laughing stock up and down the island.
The job is his if he wants it.a lovely sum has been offered.  The deciding factor for him by all accounts. God help us all,may plant spuds in the pitches and call it a day!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 20, 2015, 06:30:13 PM
For what is worth i dont think theres anyone local bettered qualified for the antrim job that pj. his cv speaks for itself.no matter who was behind the scenes at loughguile it was pj who put them there & managed them. if hes offered it & accepts, good luck to him. on another note. getevennotcross im arranging a whip around to see if we can get u acouple of nights down in a b& b in the dall to try & soothe the seemingly irratating affliction you have with us. failing that we'll get dr john to surgically remove that big chip from your shoulder for you.u must look like quasimodo walking around with bearing down on you. lol u really are pure comedy gold
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
If we are looking inside the county then PJ or Dick O'Kane for me, maybe even the pair of them working together. Kevin Ryan left behind a county full of ill will & ill feeling amongst clubs and players. We need a United county now both on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Some interesting and possible match ups to ponder for the county final;
Graffin v Clarke
McCambridge v Mccaughern
Mcauley v McManus (fascinating)
Matty Donnelly v Carson
Dallas v C. McNaughton

Could be interesting enough!!! One thought... 2 of the best defenders in the county from Cushendal v 2 of the most exciting forwards in the county from Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Great to noticed that after a few posts on the game that there hasn't been a mention on how Mark did in the middle.. That's always a good sign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 20, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
If we are looking inside the county then PJ or Dick O'Kane for me, maybe even the pair of them working together. Kevin Ryan left behind a county full of ill will & ill feeling amongst clubs and players. We need a United county now both on and off the pitch.

PJ deserves a chance given his record the last number of years with Loughgiel. Not too sure about Dick O'Kane. Was a great hurler, but what  has he done in management? He didn't do too well at Rasharkin and is he considered successful in Dunloy this year? PJ with Woody and a city man (Oliver Bellew) would maybe work?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 20, 2015, 07:23:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Some interesting and possible match ups to ponder for the county final;
Graffin v Clarke
McCambridge v Mccaughern
Mcauley v McManus (fascinating)
Matty Donnelly v Carson
Dallas v C. McNaughton

Could be interesting enough!!! One thought... 2 of the best defenders in the county from Cushendal v 2 of the most exciting forwards in the county from Ballycastle.

Cushendall defence looks very tight, will be an interesting tussle. Great buzz about Ballycastle, that we have missed for so long. Come on the black and amber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Great to noticed that after a few posts on the game that there hasn't been a mention on how Mark did in the middle.. That's always a good sign

Was a surprisingly clean game. It was so 'start stop' though. Not the most enjoyable game of hurling. Vast majority of Loughiel's scores were frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 20, 2015, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 20, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Some interesting and possible match ups to ponder for the county final;
Graffin v Clarke
McCambridge v Mccaughern
Mcauley v McManus (fascinating)
Matty Donnelly v Carson
Dallas v C. McNaughton

Could be interesting enough!!! One thought... 2 of the best defenders in the county from Cushendal v 2 of the most exciting forwards in the county from Ballycastle.
[/quote
I think this will be a closer final than predictions
Wasn't that impressed with dall inside forward line today although I think natty done enough in the last 5 minutes to warrant a starting place
MC Cambridge stood up today when the dall was looking for leaders and is becoming one the top players in the county
But the Ballycastle lads seem to be responding to R Donnelly and have some fine hurlers to
LG look like they are due some reconstruction over the next two years ]
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
Auld Stock, well said but let's not bother ourselves with that clown.
Delighted with our lads heart in the 2nd half Today, if the first half we weren't at the game today,and our tactics and team selection questionable, but by God we changed attudite in the 2nd half, upped our work rate Aggression got tighter and acted like County Champions. The Town are pacy skillful have some big lads and more than capable of lifting the title next week.
I had seen someone mentioned about a few retirements if that's the case in Loughgiel the players like JC, Martin, Ding, Barney & Neilly  have been some servants to their club their talent and experience would be hard to replace. But that's for another day.
Whoever gets the County job is in my mind, in trouble, I've heard about a host of retirements and a few of our lads stepping away, to Travel or just a rest, I hope the new manager is afforded a by ball for a year or so, but I'd say SiE will this year😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 20, 2015, 08:02:05 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
Auld Stock, well said but let's not bother ourselves with that clown.
Delighted with our lads heart in the 2nd half Today, if the first half we weren't at the game today,and our tactics and team selection questionable, but by God we changed attudite in the 2nd half, upped our work rate Aggression got tighter and acted like County Champions. The Town are pacy skillful have some big lads and more than capable of lifting the title next week.
I had seen someone mentioned about a few retirements if that's the case in Loughgiel the players like JC, Martin, Ding, Barney & Neilly  have been some servants to their club their talent and experience would be hard to replace. But that's for another day.
Whoever gets the County job is in my mind, in trouble, I've heard about a host of retirements and a few of our lads stepping away, to Travel or just a rest, I hope the new manager is afforded a by ball for a year or so, but I'd say SiE will this year😉
I'm not interested in it.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 20, 2015, 08:10:58 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 20, 2015, 06:30:13 PM
For what is worth i dont think theres anyone local bettered qualified for the antrim job that pj. his cv speaks for itself.no matter who was behind the scenes at loughguile it was pj who put them there & managed them. if hes offered it & accepts, good luck to him. on another note. getevennotcross im arranging a whip around to see if we can get u acouple of nights down in a b& b in the dall to try & soothe the seemingly irratating affliction you have with us. failing that we'll get dr john to surgically remove that big chip from your shoulder for you.u must look like quasimodo walking around with bearing down on you. lol u really are pure comedy gold
No humps, no affliction and no surgery required by the Dall Doc AS!

Had the Dall come out on the wrong side today I'd be safe in saying there would be plenty of humps to surgically removed in the Dall. TBTH, never had any great love for the Dall but would not begrudge them their win today.  Beyond that, they still are likely to implode when the heat is on.

Nothing won yet AS, dont be getting to far ahead of yourself. Ballycastle, and Ulster to be won yet. Remember Slaughtniel and Portaferry last year and Paddys Day still way beyond the Dalls radar in my reckoning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 20, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
good lad geteven keeping thumping out those witty observations & predictions on all you survey. i have an offer for you. i think you & i co do well together as a comedy double act. i even have a name for us. we could call ourselves symbolic. i could be sym & you could, well just be yourself!!!!   :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 20, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
Auld Stock, well said but let's not bother ourselves with that clown.
Delighted with our lads heart in the 2nd half Today, if the first half we weren't at the game today,and our tactics and team selection questionable, but by God we changed attudite in the 2nd half, upped our work rate Aggression got tighter and acted like County Champions. The Town are pacy skillful have some big lads and more than capable of lifting the title next week.
I had seen someone mentioned about a few retirements if that's the case in Loughgiel the players like JC, Martin, Ding, Barney & Neilly  have been some servants to their club their talent and experience would be hard to replace. But that's for another day.
Whoever gets the County job is in my mind, in trouble, I've heard about a host of retirements and a few of our lads stepping away, to Travel or just a rest, I hope the new manager is afforded a by ball for a year or so, but I'd say SiE will this year😉
Dall men stepping away will be no bad thing if you ask me. Lets just hope its the negative and vindictive ones eh?  Getting the right man for the county job is even more crucial now, Dall men departing should be less influential and disruptive, that can only be good for parity and even handedness among other potential county players.  Saffrons Abu.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 20, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
If we are looking inside the county then PJ or Dick O'Kane for me, maybe even the pair of them working together. Kevin Ryan left behind a county full of ill will & ill feeling amongst clubs and players. We need a United county now both on and off the pitch.

PJ deserves a chance given his record the last number of years with Loughgiel. Not too sure about Dick O'Kane. Was a great hurler, but what  has he done in management? He didn't do too well at Rasharkin and is he considered successful in Dunloy this year? PJ with Woody and a city man (Oliver Bellew) would maybe work?


Agree Dick hasn't maybe had a great management career but what has be had to work with? Ollie Bellew would be a decent shout as a selector.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 20, 2015, 08:31:09 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 20, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
good lad geteven keeping thumping out those witty observations & predictions on all you survey. i have an offer for you. i think you & i co do well together as a comedy double act. i even have a name for us. we could call ourselves symbolic. i could be sym & you could, well just be yourself!!!!   :-*
Nah, u should go it alone and profile yourself as Sym-balta, before its all over you'll be shoving them down your neck to cushion your dissapointment and failure. For goodness sake, you'd give Prozac depression listening to ya.  Enjoy the win today, the run is no likely to last long, history tells us tha. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
Yeh, Carson Graffin, Campbell are totally disruptive hurlers!! Quite obvious you have no knowledge of hurling never what happens in our County setup!! Getrealnottalkshite!! What's your club by the way??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2015, 10:03:33 PM
Imagine being a "shinner" from cushendall. Then geteven really wouldn't like you ;D

Looking forward to this final now. Wasn't sure cushendall would do it today. Now back to the rivalry of the 80s and 90s with them and ballycastle. Wonder where it will be?

Good win for creggan yesterday (and rasharkin. ) Creggan have made some strides in the hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 10:12:44 PM
It's in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
Cheers. Wasn't sure that was confirmed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 20, 2015, 10:22:13 PM
We will soon be better at organising big games than playing in them at this rate lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 20, 2015, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2015, 10:03:33 PM
Imagine being a "shinner" from cushendall. Then geteven really wouldn't like you ;D

Looking forward to this final now. Wasn't sure cushendall would do it today. Now back to the rivalry of the 80s and 90s with them and ballycastle. Wonder where it will be?

Good win for creggan yesterday (and rasharkin. ) Creggan have made some strides in the hurling.
Dall and Shinners, now theres a real treacherous combination ITG!  Themselves alone, eh! 

Fair play to Dunloy by the way, I hear they put on another great show in stewarding and hosting todays game once more. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 20, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
Match changed dynamic as soon as the rain began to fall cushendall have an extra bit of grit about them that was shown last week too when the conditions aren't perfect that's what put cushendall over the line, thought all in all a great pulsating match dunloy done a great job managing the day and never heard much talk about the ref so that always good. Back to dunloy again next week then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 11:06:48 PM
I'd have to Congratulate Mark he has went up in everybody's estimation over the last 2 weekends. I thought he was fitter than previous outings, keep a firm hold of the games bearing in mind both teams where pushing things to the limits, there wasn't ( in my opinion) a nastiness in today's game which was probably due to last weeks heart issues within both camps that has been in previous matches. But he has too take credit for his performance today. Well Done!! Hopefully Skinny will have been watching and doesn't feel the need to star of the Show on Sunday. I'd take yer man fro St Galls!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2015, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 20, 2015, 11:06:48 PM
I'd have to Congratulate Mark he has went up in everybody's estimation over the last 2 weekends. I thought he was fitter than previous outings, keep a firm hold of the games bearing in mind both teams where pushing things to the limits, there wasn't ( in my opinion) a nastiness in today's game which was probably due to last weeks heart issues within both camps that has been in previous matches. But he has too take credit for his performance today. Well Done!! Hopefully Skinny will have been watching and doesn't feel the need to star of the Show on Sunday. I'd take yer man fro St Galls!!

Skinny may get the job, anyways should be a decent final.. Last couple have been dire...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2015, 11:48:05 PM
Have to say I'd cushendall condemned to a 8 point defeat a few minutes after half time. Perfect example of when individuals up their game how things can change.Credit to NMcM and RMcC in particular for creating the turn around. Thats not to say the rest of the team didn't step up cause they did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 21, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2015, 11:48:05 PM
Have to say I'd cushendall condemned to a 8 point defeat a few minutes after half time. Perfect example of when individuals up their game how things can change.Credit to NMcM and RMcC in particular for creating the turn around. Thats not to say the rest of the team didn't step up cause they did.
ack Skull boi, dont be giving them anymore encouragement, sure they will be hard enough to stick as it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 07:07:45 AM
A super second half from us yesterday. Everything at half time pointed to a Loughgiel victory but we fought tooth and nail for every ball. Neil, Graffin, Ryan and E Campbell were all superb but you obviously wouldn't want them on the county team :P PJ and the Loughgiel players don't owe anyone anything. Probably the best Loughgiel team ever. I thought Mark O'Neill was very soft on Loughgiel time wasting particularly in the first half. DD took forever with poc outs and I've never seen a physio on the pitch as often. It is a big ask for a team to come out 3 Sunday's in a row and perform. Ballycastle are waiting in the wings, have had time for any injuries and niggles to heal and an extra week to get organised. Their forwards are seriously quick and will be difficult to deal with. It's a 50/50 game next week. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 21, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 07:07:45 AM
A super second half from us yesterday. Everything at half time pointed to a Loughgiel victory but we fought tooth and nail for every ball. Neil, Graffin, Ryan and E Campbell were all superb but you obviously wouldn't want them on the county team :P I've never questioned their individual hurling ability, just leave the rest of the crap outside the tog out.  Niels a nice lad but his Dall head and ego clouds his judgement at times.  PJ and the Loughgiel players don't owe anyone anything. Probably the best Loughgiel team ever. I thought Mark O'Neill was very soft on Loughgiel time wasting particularly in the first half. DD took forever with poc outs and I've never seen a physio on the pitch as often. It is a big ask for a team to come out 3 Sunday's in a row and perform. Doubt creeping in already, interesting  Ballycastle are waiting in the wings, have had time for any injuries and niggles to heal and an extra week to get organised. Their forwards are seriously quick and will be difficult to deal with. It's a 50/50 game next week. Looking forward to it.
Busy week ahead, must not over indulge on Antrim GAA Board,    the hostile Dall have enough on their plate to conisider.  Bottom line remains, nothing is won!

Me:
A WUM -Yes
Honest - unquestionably
Dall fan - thankfully No.
Antrim fan - forever
Consistent - unwavering

But dont take it personal!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
Getevennotcross I doubt you've spent much time with him to be passing judgement. As for what you suggest has or hasn't happened within the county set up, I very much doubt you were about the place either. You just form your opinions from hearsay and guess work. I agree nothing is won yet but we have just knocked Loughgiel out for the second year in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 21, 2015, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 08:19:10 AM
Getevennotcross I doubt you've spent much time with him to be passing judgement. As for what you suggest has or hasn't happened within the county set up, I very much doubt you were about the place either. You just form your opinions from hearsay and guess work. I agree nothing is won yet but we have just knocked Loughgiel out for the second year in a row.
Jesus JJ, ur at it early today,. So is beating Loughgiel your only bench mark?  Passing judgement, a common trait here if you ask me, but hell who am I to voice an opinion, that seems to be the preserve of an illustrious few here.  As I said, Neils a nice lad but!

You really shouldn-t take things personal JJ.  Bloody hell, I am running low in phone data.  See you Sunday, will obviouly be giving the town a cheer sorry to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
Well Loughgiel won 4 championships in a row and an All Ireland not so long ago. They were unbeaten in the league winning it pulling up, they lifted the feis cup as well. It's a big win for our club and proves it wasn't a fluke winning a championship that nobody gave us credit for last year. I'm sure every neutral will be hoping for a Ballycastle win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 21, 2015, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
Well Loughgiel won 4 championships in a row and an All Ireland not so long ago. They were unbeaten in the league winning it pulling up, they lifted the feis cup as well. It's a big win for our club and proves it wasn't a fluke winning a championship that nobody gave us credit for last year. I'm sure every neutral will be hoping for a Ballycastle win.
Proves my point about the Dall, certainly not the most endearing club. Enuff, work to he done and coin to be made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 09:06:17 AM
You just keep getting worse genc. Ballycastle haven't won a Championship in 29 years and haven't even been in a final for something like 12 years. It would be obvious that neutrals would like to see them win next Sunday. Nothing to do with the opposition, I was at their game against Dunloy and they had the neutral support then too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 08:41:38 AM
Well Loughgiel won 4 championships in a row and an All Ireland not so long ago. They were unbeaten in the league winning it pulling up, they lifted the feis cup as well. It's a big win for our club and proves it wasn't a fluke winning a championship that nobody gave us credit for last year. I'm sure every neutral will be hoping for a Ballycastle win.

This stuff is getting hard to read hard I must look out that block button  >:(

Seriously impressive second half from Cushendall, great leadership across the pitch which LG had no answer too.

Looking forward to the final now I think it will be an interesting one, Ballycastle I would say would be more than happy with the result yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 09:22:38 AM
Did anyone spot any Ballycran lads in the crowd??   8)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 09:24:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 09:22:38 AM
Did anyone spot any Ballycran lads in the crowd??   8)

Hard to differentiate between them and the town folk, think there were more BC ones at that semi final that their own  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:30:57 AM
First of all, fair play to SIE & SG for their comments yesterday. Gracious in defeat. For all the talk of rivalry, the 90 minutes of Hurling played were relatively clean. Can't really remember anything too bad. Bar a couple of years in 2012/13 when L'Giel were away head of C'Dall its been pretty tight over the last 13/14 years, those matches were tough but mostly clean enough bar the odd incident.
Anyone writing off Loughgiel in the future would be crazy to do so. They'll be back next year. They have too many good hurlers there & coming through, likes of young McGrath & James McN, Benny will be better next year after returning late from Oz.

5 minutes into the second half L'Giel looked on course to win handy, working harder than C'Dall. Watson was on fire (that point along the sideline was ridiculous by the way). That's when I thought McManus dragged C'Dall into it. He's been exceptional at times in the last 3 matches. The rest of the team followed & they looked hungrier & fresher in the last 10 minutes than L'Giel.
Though Eddie was a huge loss.

Sunday will be tight. Depends on how C'Dall come back to earth & how bcastle handle the occasion. As said on here they have some very strong talented hurlers & a couple of flying machines up front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Wasn't it Eddie who took a great puck out from DD at the last and should've leveled it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 09:22:38 AM
Did anyone spot any Ballycran lads in the crowd??   8)
Yep..seen a few players. The Fat sub goalie & CW  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:41:43 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Wasn't it Eddie who took a great puck out from DD at the last and should've leveled it?
Yeah but he was only on for a minute & obviously wasn't fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Wasn't it Eddie who took a great puck out from DD at the last and should've leveled it?

Yes

Why did he not start anyway? Injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 21, 2015, 09:47:19 AM
as ive said before i dont know why people even bother replying to the Comedy show that is GENC

Obviously very pleased with the result yesterday, 5 mins into the second half i thought we would get beat easy, but fair play to a number of players who stood up and lifted their game, we where very poor in the first half, our work rate and intensity was missing from last week.

even though we won we need to improve a whole lot before the final, too many of out players didnt play well and if they dont improve i cant see us winning the final.

Should be a different type of game and one Ballycastle will fancy winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 09:48:59 AM
Forgive me but posting on the phone again so here goes my tuppance * well done cushendall deserved winners it was exciting and nervous because it was so close * I expected much more from loughgeil in terms of goal chances which is why I think cushendall prevailed * dunloy set up was fantastic they had so many club men digging in around the ground a credit to the club * I don't see ballycastle winning the championship at all think cushendall will win with a few to spare * what was wrong with eddie mccloskey? * pj will walk away with head held high but from what I hear county are fixed on external and will only be pj's if they fail to get someone * will someone please tell my boss that blackberry is done * plenty of money raised yesterday * I think dunloy will get the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
Wasn't it Eddie who took a great puck out from DD at the last and should've leveled it?
Yeah but he was only on for a minute & obviously wasn't fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on September 21, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Good game of hurling, both teams wanted to hurl which always helps, made the refs job easier.
not so sure that the use of the advantage rule at one point, as a free in 30m out is better than an advantage when player shot under severe pressure and missed then not brought back. this was for cushendall at end of game by the way. apart from that he did a good job mr2.


good turnout again, amount raised is around 10k at first count, which is disappointing when u think that 5000 people were there.
well done to dunloy once again.

final in dunloy next sunday apparently, skinny should be a shoe in this year for final, as duffy (county chairman elect in his own head) et al did the dirt on him last year!!

ballycastle havent been in a final in a while and havent won one in a long time either but records/stats like them are there to be broken!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 09:22:38 AM
Did anyone spot any Ballycran lads in the crowd??   8)
Yep..seen a few players. The Fat sub goalie & CW  ;)

CW?? From my own parish or another CW?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on September 21, 2015, 10:50:03 AM
any day now. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 10:52:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 09:22:38 AM
Did anyone spot any Ballycran lads in the crowd??   8)
Yep..seen a few players. The Fat sub goalie & CW  ;)

CW?? From my own parish or another CW?
The crans & Down player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2015, 11:05:45 AM
cool. i will tweet him here now and ask who hes allowed to apply for the role. :)

I assumed that PJ would want the job, hes did all he can at his club and won it all. County management would be the next logical step for him now hes finished with Lgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Yeah lets hope that he can find someone who can unite the county and get everyone out playing for their clubs and county.

Just a thought that occurred to me there, if you look at the C'dall players who did the damage and turned the game around in their favour, Graffin, McManus, McCambridge and Campbell, I wonder what they all have in common?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
I think we all know. I don't think anyone from loughgiel could argue with them being on the County panel/team. The only poster I've seen saying they shouldn't be is specifically on here to push anyone's buttons that cares to respond.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Btw, nearly £9000 collected at the gate yesterday. Not bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
I think we all know. I don't think anyone from loughgiel could argue with them being on the County panel/team. The only poster I've seen saying they shouldn't be is specifically on here to push anyone's buttons that cares to respond.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Btw, nearly £9000 collected at the gate yesterday. Not bad.


+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Never made it to the game. Good luck to Cushendall in the final. Our lads owe us nothing & hopefully there's another championship or 2 in that team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Shay Boland?

Spotted Ciaran Barr in the city a few months back. Is he back up north full time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
Great bit of journalism from the Belfast Tele in regard to the match  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on September 21, 2015, 12:33:29 PM
Whats the news on the injury of young paddy burke? Seen him last week and he has put on a bit of timber. Wouldn't want to be out for too long! Could be a big boost for the dall if he was back hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
Great bit of journalism from the Belfast Tele in regard to the match  ;D

Just saw that ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
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Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Shay Boland?

Spotted Ciaran Barr in the city a few months back. Is he back up north full time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 21, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
Paddy is out for another 6 months, he'd bad news last week. Its a Huge blow for the kid, he misses out on the Championship but also College hurling for UUJ, but he will be looked after and hopefully have another 10 years at no6 for us, he was starting to impose himself on games and was a strong aggressive hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on September 21, 2015, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Why a Dublin coach? Their past two managers have been from cork and Clare. If they won't appoint one of their own why would we?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Shay Boland?

Spotted Ciaran Barr in the city a few months back. Is he back up north full time?

Apologies, I didn't realise that all Rossa legends were to have their names in bold.

Won't happen again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
Great bit of journalism from the Belfast Tele in regard to the match  ;D

Just saw that ;D
What did it say? Try not to buy it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
Great bit of journalism from the Belfast Tele in regard to the match  ;D

Just saw that ;D
What did it say? Try not to buy it!

The match happened - cushendall won!

Think maybe I used more words there  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Shay Boland?

Spotted Ciaran Barr in the city a few months back. Is he back up north full time?

Apologies, I didn't realise that all Rossa legends were to have their names in bold.

Won't happen again.

Bold to indicate I heard he's the tsar of appointing the new man.
I suppose travel from Dublin is easier (cheaper) than anywhere further south.
Not casting judgement - just relaying the information.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 21, 2015, 01:50:38 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 21, 2015, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 10:53:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 10:42:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 21, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
I had spoke to a few lgiel ones prior to the first game and while they were confident in winning one line stuck with me from it. 'I hope we havent peaked too soon'.
After ydays game, he text me 'i told you so'. First defeat of the season and out of the championship is a bitter pill to swallow esp considering all the work that was put in this year from that team. Will no doubt be a changing of the guard now for a few of the old players in the team.

Loved PJ's wee platform he was on ;)

Had a chuckle at that myself.

Was that because he was 'suspended'? or did he just fancy a bit of room?

Not at all, i was clearly making all of that up to stir.  ;D it was funny looking to be fair.

Antrim job on his radar now? Any of the Lgiel posters know if hes interested in the role
I'm sure he is. Contrary to what I've read on here I believe a certain ex Antrim captain and all star is in charge of finding the next Antrim manager. I'm sure some of you could ask him.

Indeed. The hope is seemingly to get a Dublin coach.
Failing that go internal.

Shay Boland?

Spotted Ciaran Barr in the city a few months back. Is he back up north full time?

Apologies, I didn't realise that all Rossa legends were to have their names in bold.

Won't happen again.

Bold to indicate I heard he's the tsar of appointing the new man.
I suppose travel from Dublin is easier (cheaper) than anywhere further south.
Not casting judgement - just relaying the information.
Heavy tolls on the road from Dublin to Belfast  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Btw, nearly £9000 collected at the gate yesterday. Not bad.

good news. thats a great amount to be donating
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 21, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
It's official
Dunloy getting final
Throw in 3 o clock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 21, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
It's official
Dunloy getting final
Throw in 3 o clock
wile handy hi!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 02:17:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
wile handy hi!
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After the run youse have to make on Saturday to Portaferry, its the least the county could do  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2015, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2015, 02:17:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 21, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
wile handy hi!

After the run youse have to make on Saturday to Portaferry, its the least the county could do  :)
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Ports are meant to be hosting the Down final, so not sure how that league game will pan out as yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2015, 03:01:35 PM
They have us down to play ballycastle on sat as well in the league. lm sure we can arrange that one for another day!

On another note, minor hurling final on sat down in cdall. Will have to get down to this game. St Patricks have proved they are a good solid team. Would be some achievement if we were to win the minors. Been along time since we did win it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 21, 2015, 03:01:35 PM
They have us down to play ballycastle on sat as well in the league. lm sure we can arrange that one for another day!

On another note, minor hurling final on sat down in cdall. Will have to get down to this game. St Patricks have proved they are a good solid team. Would be some achievement if we were to win the minors. Been along time since we did win it!
I would be surprised if Dunloy didn't win this to be honest. Have a couple of really cracking hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on September 21, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
I thought yesterdays game was poor in comparison to previous Cushendall/Loughgiel tussles over the years, but Cushendall's response when under the cosh was immense and showed great character and ultimately were deserved winners.

Again, when the going got tough the Cushendall leaders stood up and worked as a unit to get the job done.

Ballycastle will be a different task altogether, with some great match ups throughout. However, i think Cushendall have the experience and know how to grind out a win and retain the Volenteer cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 04:21:04 PM
I'd be very surprised if Ballycastle line Neil Mc Auley on Neil Mc Manus. Mc Auley wouldn't be a great man marker, he is however probably the best sweeper in Ulster. His distribution is superb, never wastes a ball. He is like a good quarter back and Ballycastle in my opinion will be hoping he can stay free to spray balls into Saul and Clarke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2015, 04:39:58 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 21, 2015, 04:21:04 PM
I'd be very surprised if Ballycastle line Neil Mc Auley on Neil Mc Manus. Mc Auley wouldn't be a great man marker, he is however probably the best sweeper in Ulster. His distribution is superb, never wastes a ball. He is like a good quarter back and Ballycastle in my opinion will be hoping he can stay free to spray balls into Saul and Clarke.

Yeah I think you're right. Its rare to see McAuley line out in the orthodox 6 role with a marking job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 21, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 21, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
For what yesterday's game (once it got going) lacked in quality, it made up for in excitement and tension.  Both Winker and Graffin played well and it was a great tussle between them both.  Watson's score on the left heading up towards the old pitch was exceptional.  He really did rise to the occasion and after Graffin getting turned over with his first three balls, he led from the front as well.  His catch over Watson in the first 15 mins was what he needed.  I thought that Shane had a good enough game in midfield but up front Cushendall are really struggling for a ball winning inside forward.  Big Carson tries hard but I think he's too nice a hurler under the high ball and doesn't use his stature and physicality to his benefit.  I don't think he caught one yesterday despite being given plenty of ball. He did get one nice score though.  McCambridge was awesome.  I think he likes to run too much with the ball but he obviously feels that he can get passed the men and a lot of his runs led to scores yesterday.

21 scores between both Watson and McManus tells its own story though and this is where Ballycastle might fancy their chances.  If McAuley takes McManus out of the game and they don't give the frees away, it could play into the Town's hands. That said, Saul and Clarke haven't come up against McCambridge, Graffin, Campbell and the rest of that tight back line in the championship yet so it could well be a very low scoring game.  I thought that Eddie McCloskey was carrying a knock or some sort of injury from the last game watching his movement.

Dunloy as good a venue as anywhere and very well marshalled to boot.  Big PJ has been brilliant for Loughgiel and fair play to him.  (Did he not come out in the Irish News and state that he wanted the Antrim job by the way?). I've heard people criticise his lack of tactical awareness or something to that degree. That's very harsh on a man who delivered an All Ireland to his club.  But even if he did need a hand, I'm sure he was the man who got the right people around him (Jim Nelson in particular).

What gave it away? Coming on for the last ten minutes or the massive strapping on his thigh....On a more serious note, is PJ not a bit ignorant?
I've witnessed him a few times treating people quite rudely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler24 on September 21, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
The match up for this weekends final will be superb

McCambridge vs Clarke
Graffin vs Saul
McManus vs McAuley
Carson/McAfee vs Matty Donnelly
Christy McN vs Dermot Donnelly
Shane McNaughton vs Fergus Donnelly
Eoghan Campbell vs Shane Jennings

Didn't realise how well these teams match up. Cannot wait!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 21, 2015, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 21, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
The match up for this weekends final will be superb

McCambridge vs Clarke
Graffin vs Saul
McManus vs McAuley
Carson/McAfee vs Matty Donnelly
Christy McN vs Dermot Donnelly
Shane McNaughton vs Fergus Donnelly
Eoghan Campbell vs Shane Jennings

Didn't realise how well these teams match up. Cannot wait!

Will Christy start? He really struggled to find the pace of the game on Sunday, what about RD, is he a possible or McClaff I suppose also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 21, 2015, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 21, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
The match up for this weekends final will be superb

McCambridge vs Clarke
Graffin vs Saul
McManus vs McAuley
Carson/McAfee vs Matty Donnelly
Christy McN vs Dermot Donnelly
Shane McNaughton vs Fergus Donnelly
Eoghan Campbell vs Shane Jennings

Didn't realise how well these teams match up. Cannot wait!

Will Christy start? He really struggled to find the pace of the game on Sunday, what about RD, is he a possible or McClaff I suppose also.


Is McClaff still there? I heard rumours he was for New Zealand to work. Christy has the ability to get goals but did struggle yesterday. Is RD the answer or is Karl McKeegan for the experience? Will Sean McAfee start, he seemed in pain coming off yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 22, 2015, 04:59:23 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 21, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 21, 2015, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: Hurler24 on September 21, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
The match up for this weekends final will be superb

McCambridge vs Clarke
Graffin vs Saul
McManus vs McAuley
Carson/McAfee vs Matty Donnelly
Christy McN vs Dermot Donnelly
Shane McNaughton vs Fergus Donnelly
Eoghan Campbell vs Shane Jennings

Didn't realise how well these teams match up. Cannot wait!

Will Christy start? He really struggled to find the pace of the game on Sunday, what about RD, is he a possible or McClaff I suppose also.


Is McClaff still there? I heard rumours he was for New Zealand to work. Christy has the ability to get goals but did struggle yesterday. Is RD the answer or is Karl McKeegan for the experience? Will Sean McAfee start, he seemed in pain coming off yesterday.
I'd opt for youth over experience for my openners at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2015, 11:02:37 AM
I think it could actually come down to the two keepers and who uses their puck outs better.

McGarry is very good on these and regularly can pick out MF HF's on the move in pockets of space, Cushendall will have to work hard to force him to go longer.

Cushendall went long with very little success in the first half on Sunday and was only in the second when they went a bit more targeted did they come up with any joy really.

Whoever gets this part of the game working best will have a serious advantage over all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 22, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
i see PJ has said in the county antrim post he isnt going for the antrim job. That the county board are sniffing about for someone else for the job.

Wonder who they are after?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 22, 2015, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2015, 11:02:37 AM
I think it could actually come down to the two keepers and who uses their puck outs better.

McGarry is very good on these and regularly can pick out MF HF's on the move in pockets of space, Cushendall will have to work hard to force him to go longer.

Cushendall went long with very little success in the first half on Sunday and was only in the second when they went a bit more targeted did they come up with any joy really.

Whoever gets this part of the game working best will have a serious advantage over all.

My impression in the dunloy game was that ballycastle always had a man under the puckout and if they didnt win it clean they made dam sure the dunloy man wasnt getting it,there was always 2/3 players attacking the break.dunloy made it easy by standing off most of the time. Just working the basics imo anyway, cant see cushendall being as obliging
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 22, 2015, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 22, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
i see PJ has said in the county antrim post he isnt going for the antrim job. That the county board are sniffing about for someone else for the job.

Wonder who they are after?
It has worked well in the past so why not try another southerner... Is Dalo going cheap?!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 22, 2015, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 22, 2015, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 22, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
i see PJ has said in the county antrim post he isnt going for the antrim job. That the county board are sniffing about for someone else for the job.

Wonder who they are after?
It has worked well in the past so why not try another southerner... Is Dalo going cheap?!

Dalo is on JP McManus' payroll, he'll not be going anywhere soon.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 22, 2015, 02:47:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 22, 2015, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2015, 11:02:37 AM
I think it could actually come down to the two keepers and who uses their puck outs better.

McGarry is very good on these and regularly can pick out MF HF's on the move in pockets of space, Cushendall will have to work hard to force him to go longer.

Cushendall went long with very little success in the first half on Sunday and was only in the second when they went a bit more targeted did they come up with any joy really.

Whoever gets this part of the game working best will have a serious advantage over all.

My impression in the dunloy game was that ballycastle always had a man under the puckout and if they didnt win it clean they made dam sure the dunloy man wasnt getting it,there was always 2/3 players attacking the break.dunloy made it easy by standing off most of the time. Just working the basics imo anyway, cant see cushendall being as obliging

We looked clueless in the second half with our puck outs so i would read much into that. If im honest we didn't win enough, if any, breaking ball in the second half from the puck outs both ways. Winning the dirty ball is vital in a tight match and we didn't do it. You need to be reading it well and have a bit of luck for it to fall your way and Ballycastle got that against us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 22, 2015, 03:13:53 PM
Different stories in the papers this morning. In the county Antrim post he isn't interested, in the Irish news he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2015, 03:16:48 PM
He wants to be chased  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2015, 03:20:15 PM
I hear it's down to two names. One from Kilkenny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 22, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
anyone worth being excited about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 22, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 22, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Although I would like to see the county team do well, which requires the correct senior hurling management team being in place. I'd like to see our board give as much and more energy (as well as our our clubs) grab the bull by the horns for a few years and get stuck into development at juvenile and pre-senior level.

So in a way, it doesn't really matter if we get the best coach Kilkenny has to offer or not. If we dont have a huge collective of young players who have mastered the skills it will leave us in a very similar position. We are looking at it from a position akin to English soccer teams - we arent a good team so change the manager.

Not enough people care about developing their clubs.
Wow, enthralling and so inovative,  zzzzzzzz, nothing we have not heard before.  Youz boyz are better at grabbing sheep than bulls I'd say, eh ;)  Change the record for goodness sake, u new fellas should read past posts.  Slaughtniel I am sure will be lickin their chops to get another shot at the Dall maybe, racked up a mighty score against Swatragh last Sunday.  But sure the Dall have to beat The Town??  And thats not written yet!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2015, 09:32:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 22, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Although I would like to see the county team do well, which requires the correct senior hurling management team being in place. I'd like to see our board give as much and more energy (as well as our our clubs) grab the bull by the horns for a few years and get stuck into development at juvenile and pre-senior level.

So in a way, it doesn't really matter if we get the best coach Kilkenny has to offer or not. If we dont have a huge collective of young players who have mastered the skills it will leave us in a very similar position. We are looking at it from a position akin to English soccer teams - we arent a good team so change the manager.

Not enough people care about developing their clubs.

Agree with every word - well said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 01:59:01 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 22, 2015, 09:32:15 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 22, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Although I would like to see the county team do well, which requires the correct senior hurling management team being in place. I'd like to see our board give as much and more energy (as well as our our clubs) grab the bull by the horns for a few years and get stuck into development at juvenile and pre-senior level.

So in a way, it doesn't really matter if we get the best coach Kilkenny has to offer or not. If we dont have a huge collective of young players who have mastered the skills it will leave us in a very similar position. We are looking at it from a position akin to English soccer teams - we arent a good team so change the manager.

Not enough people care about developing their clubs.

Agree with every word - well said.
ah now btdtgtt, dont be encouraging him.  Much easier to have a better team when all players from all clubs are welcomed into the fold.  Dall made it a very unwelcoming environment for lads who wished to committ to the county.  Regretably, a weak manager and some misplaced influence on behalf of some individual players has severely contributed to our current lowly hurling status. We are at our lowest ebb in years as a result.  It was not the clubs who propogated this scenario, lets those who are culpable stand up now and admit to their significant contribution to this debacle??  Absolute disgrace if you ask me.  Let the Dall develop the stream of young players who have mastered the skills of hurling, problem solved eh? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2015, 07:11:08 AM
Getevennotcross you think you have all the answers I hope you have your name is in for the job. Although it would mean getting up from behind the keyboard in your parents back bedroom.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Your partisanship although honourable is tainted by the obvious denial of fact. But we are all human for sure, well most us anyway.  It was all well documented and discussed on this forum and most nuetrals would be disgusted by the antics of those involved. Granted the manager should have grown a pair and not have been led by the nose??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 08:04:39 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 23, 2015, 07:11:08 AM
Getevennotcross you think you have all the answers I hope you have your name is in for the job. Although it would mean getting up from behind the keyboard in your parents back bedroom.
Sure you Dall men would not be comfortable with city men, well I mean you were never to comfortable travelling to the city!

Nah, not at all, I dont have all the answers by any means, but certainly needs cohesion , buy in and fair treatment of all lads who comitt to the county scence, no matter which club they represent, simples! Does a iPad keyboard count being used in my black van?    Well, musn't dither here, a bit poitinless responding to those in denial with Maroon(ed) tinted sunglasses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2015, 08:10:00 AM
Happy as Larry travelling to the city, sure we gathered up a pile of championships up there.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 23, 2015, 09:25:11 AM
Im sure your club is really proud to have you as a member, if infact you are a member of any club.

ok, back to ignoring your tiresome dribble.

Looking forward to Sunday, should be a very tight match with some interesting matchups
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
My god..what a clown  ;D   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 23, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
Great buzz and excitement around the town for the final, that has been missing for too long. No pressure on our boys, everyone outside the town expecting a Cushendall victory. Fair play to Ronan, Marty J and Dessie for turning things around so quickly. Will be some party in Ballycastle if the boys can get the job done. Can wait for Sunday. Up the black and amber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 23, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
Great buzz and excitement around the town for the final, that has been missing for too long. No pressure on our boys, everyone outside the town expecting a Cushendall victory. Fair play to Ronan, Marty J and Dessie for turning things around so quickly. Will be some party in Ballycastle if the boys can get the job done. Can wait for Sunday. Up the black and amber.

No ... none at all  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
My god..what a clown  ;D   ;D
Mé Féin. Lets get real here, the shenanigans which went on last year are still relevant today. Proud to stand alone on this and challenge those who pretend it did not happen or bury their heads in the sand.   For goodness sake, stand up and be ccounted, these are real issues and concerns which by virtue of their impact need addressing. Are you an Ostrich??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2015, 11:13:10 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
My god..what a clown  ;D   ;D
Mé Féin. Lets get real here, the shennigans which went on last year are still relevant today. Proud to stand alone on this and challenge those who pretend it did not happen or bury their heads in the sand.   For goodness sake, stand up and be ccounted, these are real issues and concerns which by virtue of their impact need addressing. Are you an Ostrich??

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 23, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Senior Hurling Championship Final is on Sunday 27th September in Dunloy with a 3.00pm throw-in.

Both Cushendall and Ballycastle will have a sizeable support on the day in the hope to see their club lift the Volunteer Cup.

Colum Cunning has been selected as the referee of the game ably assisted by Mark O'Neill and Liam McAuley along the sideline.

A 20 page souvenir programme has been prepared for the occasion. Special commendation must go to Brona MacIntyre of BeeCreative and Sean Kelly from St Malachys and all contributors to the programme.

During half-time Antrim will present Chest Heart and Stroke with a financial donation of over £9000. Thank you again to all those who contributed in any way.

If you are attending the final please arrive early and follow the directions of the stewards. The Dunloy club have performed admirably over the past number of weeks facilitating our games.

Enjoy the occasion and good luck to both clubs.

Seán Fleming

PRO Antrim GAA

http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/senior-hurling-final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2015, 04:56:22 PM
As much as it saddens me that we aren't in the final, I'm really looking forward to the game this Sunday. I believe Cushendall have to go in as massive favourites but one just never knows in the Antrim championship. I'll be there early, and will try standing on the opposite side for a change. I'll see how it goes.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 23, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2015, 04:56:22 PM
As much as it saddens me that we aren't in the final, I'm really looking forward to the game this Sunday. I believe Cushendall have to go in as massive favourites but one just never knows in the Antrim championship. I'll be there early, and will try standing on the opposite side for a change. I'll see how it goes.  ;D
I'm not sure about the massive favourites SIE, but favourites none the less. If C'Dall don't have their attitude spot on they could be in big trouble as Ballycastle have some seriously talented & athletic hurlers. Ballycastle will fancy their chances as they would be glad it's C'Dall & not L'Giel.
C'Dall only having a weeks rest could be a major disadvantage & I can see it being pretty tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on September 23, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Proof ! You're a laugh....! you seem quite happy when it suits you to be judge, jury and executioner based on one side of a 2nd hand conversation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on September 23, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Proof ! You're a laugh....! you seem quite happy when it suits you to be judge, jury and executioner based on one side of a 2nd hand conversation
Cheers LBNo.4. None so blind as those - Ostriches!  So, it seems we all have to bury our heads in the sand and pretend nothing has happened.  Just like the DUPs and Shinners at Stormont.   Patch it up/gloss over it and we will all be mates again, eh!  I say, get it out in the open, debate it, get it sorted and then put it to bed like mature adults.  Is that likely to happen, I fear not. It will fester, lie dormant and raise its ugly head again.  Shame on all those involved, all contributed to our disastrous year on the hurling field.  Dall men were complicit in the actions but of course they will abdicate all responsibility. Why am I not shocked on that count??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
i see the fake tan & hair gel brigade are rowing in behind their clubman geteven now. talk about disrupting a changing room. what of the chuckle brothers non appearance in both senior provincial & all ireland semi??  or maybe we could revisit the disgraceful antics of another of theirs at u21 final??? no TBH i dont want to open that sordid wee can of worms either. geteven you were talkin the other night about failure & disappointment. well its struck me that if say just for example  ;) ;) a club hadnt won a c'ship in about 43 years. now that would really taste of failure. another thought for u as well even if we lose on sunday i can tell you the sweetest taste we had this year was beating the perma tanned prima donnas who were destined for greatness & we did that on one leg. with a patched up team we still took those wee boys back to school. ah well maybe next year, or the year after & so on. maybe if their cahonnas drop by next august they might have the middle to put away a team on one leg. anyhow all the best to both teams on sunday. its some week leading up to a county final. left back & geteven dont feel too left out, its not your fault your faith in your own has turned out to be blind. now boys please make your comebacks to this your best yet. i really do like to read your rambling b4 i hit the sack. they make me realise how lucky i am  :Pto be  from where im from. not much to laugh at these days but boy you two muppets sure do make me smile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
i see the fake tan & hair gel brigade are rowing in behind their clubman geteven now. talk about disrupting a changing room. what of the chuckle brothers non appearance in both senior provincial & all ireland semi??  or maybe we could revisit the disgraceful antics of another of theirs at u21 final??? no TBH i dont want to open that sordid wee can of worms either. geteven you were talkin the other night about failure & disappointment. well its struck me that if say just for example  ;) ;) a club hadnt won a c'ship in about 43 years. now that would really taste of failure. another thought for u as well even if we lose on sunday i can tell you the sweetest taste we had this year was beating the perma tanned prima donnas who were destined for greatness & we did that on one leg. with a patched up team we still took those wee boys back to school. ah well maybe next year, or the year after & so on. maybe if their cahonnas drop by next august they might have the middle to put away a team on one leg. anyhow all the best to both teams on sunday. its some week leading up to a county final. left back & geteven dont feel too left out, its not your fault your faith in your own has turned out to be blind. now boys please make your comebacks to this your best yet. i really do like to read your rambling b4 i hit the sack. they make me realise how lucky i am  :Pto be  from where im from. not much to laugh at these days but boy you two muppets sure do make me smile.
ah Jesus, I just knew AS/JJ would back with a response. He had to wait of course until he finished his weekly read of the Womens Own. Dream on Pilgrim, sure if the Town dont get ya Slaughniel or Down champs will be waiting.  Remember, nothing is won as yet!

Fake Tans, hair gel, hhmmm, interesting!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Your partisanship although honourable is tainted by the obvious denial of fact. But we are all human for sure, well most us anyway.  It was all well documented and discussed on this forum and most nuetrals would be disgusted by the antics of those involved. Granted the manager should have grown a pair and not have been led by the nose??

I don't know why people bother...

Denial of fact. Facts posted by anonymous agenda driven posters on a random internet site!!

There's no point slating clubs - just a few plonkers throwing stuff out there and people rising to it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 07:51:35 AM
Quote from: Hand up on September 23, 2015, 04:51:14 AM
Yep it's all the Dalls fault!! Where your proof of all these allegations!!
Your partisanship although honourable is tainted by the obvious denial of fact. But we are all human for sure, well most us anyway.  It was all well documented and discussed on this forum and most nuetrals would be disgusted by the antics of those involved. Granted the manager should have grown a pair and not have been led by the nose??

I don't know why people bother...

Denial of fact. Facts posted by anonymous agenda driven posters on a random internet site!!

There's no point slating clubs - just a few plonkers throwing stuff out there and people rising to it!
And interestingly they rose ITG, what does that tell us? Attempting to defend the iindefensible I'd say.  No smoke without fire and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:22:23 PM
not even nearly as humourous as we know you can be. we want more we want more we want more  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:22:23 PM
not even nearly as humourous as we know you can be. we want more we want more we want more  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So does the U21 final settle score for you? Even things up maybe?  The antics of the Dall men was severely damaging and disgusting in my opion.  Yet you and others just wish to brush it under the carpet, pathetic. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
not even close. cmon now im willing to play with you boys but only if you continue your meanderings & garbage & MAKE IT FUNNY. just like you have been going. only humourous diatribe from here on in thank you very much!!!!   now encore encore, im ready for the nest & i need my fix
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
not even close. cmon now im willing to play with you boys but only if you continue your meanderings & garbage & MAKE IT FUNNY. just like you have been going. only humourous diatribe from here on in thank you very much!!!!   now encore encore, im ready for the nest & i need my fix
So you like playing with the boys, figures!    Far removed from sheep though.  Got to go now, Chinese calling on the table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on September 23, 2015, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 09:01:26 PM
i see the fake tan & hair gel brigade are rowing in behind their clubman geteven now. talk about disrupting a changing room. what of the chuckle brothers non appearance in both senior provincial & all ireland semi??  or maybe we could revisit the disgraceful antics of another of theirs at u21 final??? no TBH i dont want to open that sordid wee can of worms either. geteven you were talkin the other night about failure & disappointment. well its struck me that if say just for example  ;) ;) a club hadnt won a c'ship in about 43 years. now that would really taste of failure. another thought for u as well even if we lose on sunday i can tell you the sweetest taste we had this year was beating the perma tanned prima donnas who were destined for greatness & we did that on one leg. with a patched up team we still took those wee boys back to school. ah well maybe next year, or the year after & so on. maybe if their cahonnas drop by next august they might have the middle to put away a team on one leg. anyhow all the best to both teams on sunday. its some week leading up to a county final. left back & geteven dont feel too left out, its not your fault your faith in your own has turned out to be blind. now boys please make your comebacks to this your best yet. i really do like to read your rambling b4 i hit the sack. they make me realise how lucky i am  :Pto be  from where im from. not much to laugh at these days but boy you two muppets sure do make me smile.
Great to see the height of your ambitions culminates in beating a team of 'prima donnas' and I'm sure you're absolutely delighted to live where you could happily stand on the sidelines for the last 40 odd years but times are a changing. I suggest you have a look at your own club history and you'll know all about 'failure' to win senior championships for a long time. May the best team win on Sunday. Not the funniest of response I admit but I'll leave the comedy show to your 'waterboy'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 10:32:08 PM
left back times are not changing. loughguile, dunloy , bcastle & the dall are the only show in town. let me tell you bout our ambition this year. we beat a great team last sunday & we may lose to a great team this sunday but we would have taken a 20 point drubbing by the shammrocks or the town rather than lose by a point to belfast answer to the spice boys. now altogether, if you wanna be my lover gotta get with my friends..........zigga ziigaaaaaaaaaa  :-* seriously though if you (waldorf) & your mate geteven (statler) dont fine tune the comedy,  then im not playing anymore  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 23, 2015, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 10:32:08 PM
left back times are not changing. loughguile - must be a left footer dall man, dunloy , bcastle & the dall are the only show in town. let me tell you bout our ambition this year. we beat a great team last sunday & we may lose to a great team this sunday but we would have taken a 20 point drubbing by the shammrocks or the town rather than lose by a point to belfast answer to the spice boys. now altogether, if you wanna be my lover gotta get with my friends..........zigga ziigaaaaaaaaaa  :-* seriously though if you (waldorf) & your mate geteven (statler) dont fine tune the comedy,  then im not playing anymore  8)
A lot a talk about boys in Dall, I'm sure the sh**p are relieved? Must be the smell of the fake tan and hair gel which has converted them. Keep it going boys, ur catching on up there!

Come Sunday, the Town could possibly make boys of you.  Camán the Town!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 23, 2015, 11:08:22 PM
baa baa baaa baa  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 23, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
Jesus lads can yous give it a rest or take it to PM, geteven do you even realise how much a p***k your making of yourself.

I really hope your not a member of a club and more importantly not involved with any teams, if so god help them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 24, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
Lads forget about genc and his one trick sideshow. Focus on a great weekend's hurling coming up. Let's hear the predictions. I'll go with Glenariff, Dunloy and The Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 24, 2015, 08:18:51 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 23, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
Jesus lads can yous give it a rest or take it to PM, geteven do you even realise how much a p***k your making of yourself.

I really hope your not a member of a club and more importantly not involved with any teams, if so god help them.
I suppose you may be right. I'm just a WUM after all contributing to the mixing and  teasing (like others) and bringing a little bit of light heartedness to proceedings. 

Dont worry about it though, my club and teams I'm involved with, we are raking it in and doing just dandy.

Now as for Pr**k, I dont like that word, dont like it at all, never did and I wont tolerate it.  Reminds me of needles and illegal doping (now theres a subject of interst we must debate). If you dont mind, I'll bring it to the attention of the moderator?

Well anyway, given the peripatetic nature of my livelihood, I must crack on.

One last thing though, endeavour to cultivate a sense of humour, it will do you some good.  All this stuff can get a bit serious at times, but ya know what, none of us here is going to make a blind bit of diference, so smile, relax and accept the banter for what it really is!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 24, 2015, 08:23:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 24, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
Lads forget about genc and his one trick sideshow. Focus on a great weekend's hurling coming up. Let's here the predictions. I'll go with Glenariff, Dunloy and The Dall.
ah JJ, ur such a b*tch, ur really know how to hurt someones feelings.   Was it something I said?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 24, 2015, 08:18:51 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 23, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
Jesus lads can yous give it a rest or take it to PM, geteven do you even realise how much a p***k your making of yourself.

I really hope your not a member of a club and more importantly not involved with any teams, if so god help them.
I suppose you may be right. I'm just a WUM after all contributing to the mixing and  teasing (like others) and bringing a little bit of light heartedness to proceedings. 

Dont worry about it though, my club and teams I'm involved with, we are raking it in and doing just dandy.

Now as for Pr**k, I dont like that word, dont like it at all, never did and I wont tolerate it.  Reminds me of needles and illegal doping (now theres a subject of interst we must debate). If you dont mind, I'll bring it to the attention of the moderator?

Well anyway, given the peripatetic nature of my livelihood, I must crack on.

One last thing though, endeavour to cultivate a sense of humour, it will do you some good.  All this stuff can get a bit serious at times, but ya know what, none of us here is going to make a blind bit of diference, so smile, relax and accept the banter for what it really is!

Last time I'm rising too it but plenty of people on here are making a difference already, so speak for yourself when it comes to standing on the side watching others do, while you snipe and castigate.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
minor match on sat for me first game, really looking forward to this game. St Patricks have a good strong team and they beat a much fancied st johns team to get there. Our lads have went from strength to strength and for the first time in a long time we have a good minor panel that gives me something to look forward to the future with.

Very tight game on sat but hopefully we can pull through it.

Suns game will be very tight but i think that Cdall have too much know how about this panel for the town. They have plenty of experience at this stage of a season and should handle the occasion better.

Be nice to see ballycastle win it to have someone diff win it but i think that Cdall will come through by 3 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2015, 09:35:22 AM
Michael Walsh being linked with the Antrim job.

We had him up with us a few times way back in the day and I thought he was good, not too drill orientated and worked a lot on positioning and support running lines off a puck out and other situations, something Kilkenny are the masters at.

He'd be a good acquisition if you could get him, but he'd need local knowledge to help out as well I'd have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 24, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Looking forward to your game on Saturday DR

Good to see two un-fancied teams (sort of) contesting the final.  Says alot about attitude etc etc as both St Johns and Ballycastle would have been highly fancied at the start of the year.

Having seen both teams this year i think yous should win by 5 points at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 24, 2015, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 24, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Looking forward to your game on Saturday DR

Good to see two un-fancied teams (sort of) contesting the final.  Says alot about attitude etc etc as both St Johns and Ballycastle would have been highly fancied at the start of the year.

Having seen both teams this year i think yous should win by 5 points at least.
I think Dunloy will win too. Have some super forwards. I'd think young Molloy has serious potential to be top class.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2015, 10:33:05 AM
Was impressed with Dunloy, but St Patricks are a good team (s) also, should be a cracking game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
to be fair both teams shouldnt be there if you go on 2 years ago where Ballycastle and St Johns were the top teams. Us beating ballycastle in the Darragh Cup was massive as it was the first thing alot of them lads had won and they have went from strength to strength. Keelan Molloy is a brilliant tallent as is conal cunning, Eoin O'Neill, Conor Ferris, Ryan Elliot in nets etc. They have a lot of potential to be even better.

We can only but hope we win it as its been a long time since we did win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 24, 2015, 11:16:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 24, 2015, 09:35:22 AM
Michael Walsh being linked with the Antrim job.

We had him up with us a few times way back in the day and I thought he was good, not too drill orientated and worked a lot on positioning and support running lines off a puck out and other situations, something Kilkenny are the masters at.

He'd be a good acquisition if you could get him, but he'd need local knowledge to help out as well I'd have thought.

Whats he been at recently,google has him appointed kilkenny u21 coach in 2008 - 2011 but nothing since?

EDIT:

I see he was in the West Meath background team last year and was shinty/hurling manager for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
to be fair both teams shouldnt be there if you go on 2 years ago where Ballycastle and St Johns were the top teams. Us beating ballycastle in the Darragh Cup was massive as it was the first thing alot of them lads had won and they have went from strength to strength. Keelan Molloy is a brilliant tallent as is conal cunning, Eoin O'Neill, Conor Ferris, Ryan Elliot in nets etc. They have a lot of potential to be even better.

We can only but hope we win it as its been a long time since we did win it

Is Ryan Elliot a son of Shane?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2015, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 24, 2015, 11:16:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 24, 2015, 09:35:22 AM
Michael Walsh being linked with the Antrim job.

We had him up with us a few times way back in the day and I thought he was good, not too drill orientated and worked a lot on positioning and support running lines off a puck out and other situations, something Kilkenny are the masters at.

He'd be a good acquisition if you could get him, but he'd need local knowledge to help out as well I'd have thought.

Whats he been at recently,google has him appointed kilkenny u21 coach in 2008 - 2011 but nothing since?

EDIT:

I see he was in the West Meath background team last year and was shinty/hurling manager for a while.

Yeah,
  so taking Antrim might be a backward step for him, career wise  8)   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2015, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2015, 11:26:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
to be fair both teams shouldnt be there if you go on 2 years ago where Ballycastle and St Johns were the top teams. Us beating ballycastle in the Darragh Cup was massive as it was the first thing alot of them lads had won and they have went from strength to strength. Keelan Molloy is a brilliant tallent as is conal cunning, Eoin O'Neill, Conor Ferris, Ryan Elliot in nets etc. They have a lot of potential to be even better.

We can only but hope we win it as its been a long time since we did win it

Is Ryan Elliot a son of Shane?

Yeah he is. Last year of minor for him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 24, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Hot of the Press:  Michael Walsh (KK) wont take the Antrim job as one of the key Dall Lieutenants has threatened to defect to the States.  Mick said the challenge just would not be the same, so declining the offer.

The great one has assured Mick there would be other Dall lieutenants who would equally prove hot to handle and also assist Mick with the panel selection. The defector did however offer to leave his Tel. No for Mick, should he need his ear and keep him straight on a few personnel matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 24, 2015, 08:27:10 PM
boom boom statler (geteven). now ur  pleasing me.this is what we all paid our admission for. keep er lit & bring the crowds back.. wheres waldorf, surely he has a great comeback to have us rolling in the aisles. christ morcambe & wise have nothing on u boys. bravo  :D :) :D :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2015, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
to be fair both teams shouldnt be there if you go on 2 years ago where Ballycastle and St Johns were the top teams. Us beating ballycastle in the Darragh Cup was massive as it was the first thing alot of them lads had won and they have went from strength to strength. Keelan Molloy is a brilliant tallent as is conal cunning, Eoin O'Neill, Conor Ferris, Ryan Elliot in nets etc. They have a lot of potential to be even better.

We can only but hope we win it as its been a long time since we did win it

2 years ago Naomh Padraig didn't exist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 24, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 24, 2015, 08:27:10 PM
boom boom statler (geteven). now ur  pleasing me.this is what we all paid our admission for. keep er lit & bring the crowds back.. wheres waldorf, surely he has a great comeback to have us rolling in the aisles. christ morcambe & wise have nothing on u boys. bravo  :D :) :D :)
Full title please, dont be gettin too familar AS.  That wouldnae do now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 25, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
How come they didn't stick the Minor Championship on before the Senior game on Sunday?
Is it purely cos Dunloy would be playing at home in the minors?

I am surprised there isn't some form of double header for the Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: doodaa on September 25, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
How come they didn't stick the Minor Championship on before the Senior game on Sunday?
Is it purely cos Dunloy would be playing at home in the minors?

I am surprised there isn't some form of double header for the Sunday?

Minor Championship A & B finals (together) have been penciled in for weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
Anyone see what the weather is to do for the weekend?

Could have a big impact on the result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
Anyone see what the weather is to do for the weekend?

Could have a big impact on the result.

Barry Best on the BBC says its to be dry.

I'm going for Dunloy, Ossians & Cushendall. I think if McManus can be as influential last week then he will be the winning of the game for C'Dall. There is a few intriguing match ups around the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
Could have a big impact on the result.

:)

I'd say the pitch will be soft ...now tell us NAG what team will have the advantage in your opinion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 11:46:02 AM
Could have a big impact on the result.

:)

I'd say the pitch will be soft ...now tell us NAG what team will have the advantage in your opinion?

Not slight on the pitch Skull you can chill on that front  ;)

I think the town forwards would appreciate a dry quick ball more so than the Cushdenall forwards being that bit lighter on their feet IMO.

A heavier wet day suits both sets of defences and it could end up being a low scoring affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
Think it's a bit of a tired old cliche myself NAG

Sure it'll be the same for both teams  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
Think it's a bit of a tired old cliche myself NAG

Sure it'll be the same for both teams  :D

Yeah you could be right there Skull, but sure we will find out soon enough. Hopefully stays dry for the players and spectators and we have a cracking final to be talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2015, 01:08:11 PM
Championship games have attracted more interest this year than many previous and its been great to see. Location of the games this year have played a big role in that being the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 25, 2015, 02:35:07 PM
You's Antrim Gaels are badly lacking a pitch with a stand at the moment.
Ballycastle and Dunloy both open to the elements as is Ahoghill with the football.

Any chance the Antrim County Board would redirect some money to developing a club ground with a stand etc. Bit like Monaghan did with Clones, Down with Pairc Esler, Cavan with Breffni, Fermanagh with Enniskillen?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 25, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: doodaa on September 25, 2015, 02:35:07 PM
You's Antrim Gaels are badly lacking a pitch with a stand at the moment.
Ballycastle and Dunloy both open to the elements as is Ahoghill with the football.

Any chance the Antrim County Board would redirect some money to developing a club ground with a stand etc. Bit like Monaghan did with Clones, Down with Pairc Esler, Cavan with Breffni, Fermanagh with Enniskillen?

No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 25, 2015, 04:06:49 PM
some hope of that happening. It will be up to the clubs to build covers from the weather for themselves.

Its a long way down the agenda on our list of things to do at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 06:22:15 PM
The ironies of ironies. So Graffin wants to play with the best players in the county and he dosnae care if you wear a Dunloy, St. Johns, Loughgiel or Ballycastle gansey!  Was it only last year he did not want to play with the likes of Watson, E. McCloskey and possible others from a neighbouring N. Antrim team??

Whilst I commend his current aspirations to play side by side with the very best that Antrim may produce.   A massive shift I'd say. Make a good candidate as a SF'er! , simliar traits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!


Please stop replying to him!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!
Your so predictable AS. I just new you would be first to respond.

A softening of attitudes in the Dall maybe?  Pity we had to go into free fall (League & Championship) before the Dall men realised their folly. The perpitrators should be ashamed of themselves!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!


Please stop replying to him!!
He cant help himself.  Truth hurts man, dosen't it, but believe me, the best way, all day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 07:36:14 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!


Please stop replying to him!!
He cant help himself.  Truth hurts man, dosen't it, but believe me, the best way, all day.


All the PMs of the day telling me to chill out or if I don't like it don't read it wont stop me from posting it reading. I've given my view when I feel like it & no your not striking a nerve close to home.

You come here winding everybody and spouting about politics etc when clearly nobody wants to be bothered about it! it's a GAA forum ffs..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 07:36:14 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:04:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 06:47:58 PM
hey statler i think graffin has always been open to playing with anyone good enough to play for the county so that really only excludes the chuckle brothers & of course "the most natural hurler in Ulster"  ;) ;) all of course plying their trade with the spice boys!!!


Please stop replying to him!!
He cant help himself.  Truth hurts man, dosen't it, but believe me, the best way, all day.


All the PMs of the day telling me to chill out or if I don't like it don't read it wont stop me from posting it reading. I've given my view when I feel like it & no your not striking a nerve close to home.

You come here winding everybody and spouting about politics etc when clearly nobody wants to be bothered about it! it's a GAA forum ffs..
One PM!  Just testing you and proven not to be trusted. Major exaggeration on your part Pilgrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:52:24 PM
We are in a commercial break right now, all the Dall men away to chapel (Novena). We will be right back!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 07:53:21 PM
infamy infamy. they've all got it in for me!!!!   . come back waldorf, statler needs you. hes dyin on his feet here.dont think i can bear to watch. just kiss & make up & get this comedy duo back up where it belongs. must dash, sheep to be cornered. haha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 07:53:21 PM
infamy infamy. they've all got it in for me!!!!   . come back waldorf, statler needs you. hes dyin on his feet here.dont think i can bear to watch. just kiss & make up & get this comedy duo back up where it belongs. must dash, sheep to be cornered. haha
I bet youv'e never seen as many good lookin dolls in the one field!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 08:19:40 PM
i bet i have  :-*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 25, 2015, 08:19:40 PM
i bet i have  :-*
Fair play to ya AS, fair play to ya man. Ewe'r alrite in my book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 25, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
I dare say GENC will get some value out of
this

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2015/09/24/news/antrim-ace-mcmanus-considering-a-year-out-270937/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 25, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
I dare say GENC will get some value out of
this

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2015/09/24/news/antrim-ace-mcmanus-considering-a-year-out-270937/
IN, r u kidding me, dont buy it and dont read it. Is as bad as Marty Millars Weekly Liar (ATN). Too Pro Shinner for me man. Irish Times for me for a more discerning read.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 25, 2015, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 25, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 25, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
I dare say GENC will get some value out of
this

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2015/09/24/news/antrim-ace-mcmanus-considering-a-year-out-270937/
IN, r u kidding me, dont buy it and dont read it. Is as bad as Marty Millars Weekly Liar (ATN). Too Pro Shinner for me man. Irish Times for me for a more discerning read.

You arent still pining for the daily Ireland then  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 25, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
First things first, I need to get this one off my chest. I was disgusted with Loughgiel as a venue for the Ballycastle Dunloy semi final. When I arrived it at that day sure it was windy, and here was us all led to believe by everyone on here that the only venue in Antrim that there was wind at was Ballycastle  :P

Now they go and make it worse by playing the final on the softest, boggiest pitch in Antrim according to more experts on here!!!!!!!

No im very happy with Dunloy as the venue, sure aren't Ballycastle undefeated in county finals against Cushendall in Pearse Park.......aren't statistics great!!!!  :D

I was just delighted to get past Dunloy in the semi-final after having had so many defeats to them in recent years. I was hoping that Ballycastle's big players, Neal, Saul and Clarkie could deliver against Dunloy and they did but they were also well supported by the rest of the half back line especially in the 2nd half. If it ain't broke don't fix it so more of the same on Sunday please and hopefully if we get these players in to the game then we are in with a shout.

Cushendall have had 2 tough battles against the Johnnies and Loughgiel, they are the holders and probably want to make amends for not winning Ulster last year. They have very experienced players and some good young talent so they have a lot going for them. As a neutral you would have to fancy Cushendall.

Anyway best of luck to the Ballycastle players and management on Sunday and with decent weather forecast and hopefully a big crowd, the stage looks set for what I hope will be a great occasion and a Black and Amber victory of course.......


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2015, 11:50:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 25, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
First things first, I need to get this one off my chest. I was disgusted with Loughgiel as a venue for the Ballycastle Dunloy semi final. When I arrived it at that day sure it was windy, and here was us all led to believe by everyone on here that the only venue in Antrim that there was wind at was Ballycastle  :P

Now they go and make it worse by playing the final on the softest, boggiest pitch in Antrim according to more experts on here!!!!!!!

No im very happy with Dunloy as the venue, sure aren't Ballycastle undefeated in county finals against Cushendall in Pearse Park.......aren't statistics great!!!!  :D

I was just delighted to get past Dunloy in the semi-final after having had so many defeats to them in recent years. I was hoping that Ballycastle's big players, Neal, Saul and Clarkie could deliver against Dunloy and they did but they were also well supported by the rest of the half back line especially in the 2nd half. If it ain't broke don't fix it so more of the same on Sunday please and hopefully if we get these players in to the game then we are in with a shout.

Cushendall have had 2 tough battles against the Johnnies and Loughgiel, they are the holders and probably want to make amends for not winning Ulster last year. They have very experienced players and some good young talent so they have a lot going for them. As a neutral you would have to fancy Cushendall.

Anyway best of luck to the Ballycastle players and management on Sunday and with decent weather forecast and hopefully a big crowd, the stage looks set for what I hope will be a great occasion and a Black and Amber victory of course.......
disgusted? yeah, it was windy, but not all the time.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on September 26, 2015, 03:36:12 PM
Good luck to all our lads tomorrow and Ronan and management. It has been a long time coming - the buzz about the town has been brilliant. What a win tomorrow would do for the younger generation. Irrespective of the outcome this year has saw real progress - let's hope we can get over the line.

Now for Armoy to see our camogs in first ever senior final

#steptogether
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2015, 06:25:58 PM
Sounded like a tense finale to the minor final with a few late goals by naomh padraig.

(Dunloy held on to win by a point)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 26, 2015, 07:23:29 PM
Not a minor final for the purists. Thought Dunloy were comfortably the better team but the 2 late goals almost won it for Naimh Paudraig. The wee lad hurling full back for Dunloy looks like a great prospect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 07:23:36 PM
A Rasharkin referee for a Dunloy v Naomh Padraig final is not exactly good decision making. Why not a Belfast official?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 07:23:36 PM
A Rasharkin referee for a Dunloy v Naomh Padraig final is not exactly good decision making. Why not a Belfast official?

Who was refereeing it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on September 26, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
A Rasharkin referee for a Dunloy v Naomh Padraig final is not exactly good decision making. Why not a Belfast official?

Who was refereeing it?.............

Michael Hardy was the referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
Michael Hardy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2015, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 25, 2015, 11:50:19 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 25, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
First things first, I need to get this one off my chest. I was disgusted with Loughgiel as a venue for the Ballycastle Dunloy semi final. When I arrived it at that day sure it was windy, and here was us all led to believe by everyone on here that the only venue in Antrim that there was wind at was Ballycastle  :P

Now they go and make it worse by playing the final on the softest, boggiest pitch in Antrim according to more experts on here!!!!!!!

No im very happy with Dunloy as the venue, sure aren't Ballycastle undefeated in county finals against Cushendall in Pearse Park.......aren't statistics great!!!!  :D

I was just delighted to get past Dunloy in the semi-final after having had so many defeats to them in recent years. I was hoping that Ballycastle's big players, Neal, Saul and Clarkie could deliver against Dunloy and they did but they were also well supported by the rest of the half back line especially in the 2nd half. If it ain't broke don't fix it so more of the same on Sunday please and hopefully if we get these players in to the game then we are in with a shout.

Cushendall have had 2 tough battles against the Johnnies and Loughgiel, they are the holders and probably want to make amends for not winning Ulster last year. They have very experienced players and some good young talent so they have a lot going for them. As a neutral you would have to fancy Cushendall.

Anyway best of luck to the Ballycastle players and management on Sunday and with decent weather forecast and hopefully a big crowd, the stage looks set for what I hope will be a great occasion and a Black and Amber victory of course.......
disgusted? yeah, it was windy, but not all the time.  :P
Disgusted with loughgiel as a venue, lol.  Hahaha.  Clown.    Best of luck to both teams tomorrow.  May the best team win.  Hopefully the weather isn't to blame for defeat Fairhead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 26, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Why does it matter who was refereeing the game?

Given the parochial nature of our games appointing a referee from within the parish of one of the teams playing was not a great decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2015, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 26, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Why does it matter who was refereeing the game?

Given the parochial nature of our games appointing a referee from within the parish of one of the teams playing was not a great decision.
Rasharkin isn't part of Dunloy and Cloughmills parish. If anything Rasharkin wouldn't have a great love of Dunloy. I stand to be corrected on that of course.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2015, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 26, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 26, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Why does it matter who was refereeing the game?

Given the parochial nature of our games appointing a referee from within the parish of one of the teams playing was not a great decision.
Rasharkin isn't part of Dunloy and Cloughmills parish. If anything Rasharkin wouldn't have a great love of Dunloy. I stand to be corrected on that of course.

You're right SIE, not anymore. Think the Credit Union is the only remaining link.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurl away on September 27, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
Well today is the day and the county champions will be known by 5 o clock today, get even u really are a gem and your club must be so proud! You must also know all the cushendall hurlers so well to be constantly spouting crap about them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 11:20:26 AM
A bit harsh for your maiden posting dont you think and you a Newbie, huh?  However, not convinced it's your first posting by any means. We Senior Members/Hero Members just know these things!

You'd be surprised at many of things I know.  Well advised and an ear close to the ground so to speak.

Well, day of reckoning is now, I feel a real close encounter is at hand today and always the potential for an upset.

Hope 'The Town' win, be good for hurling and just couldn't bring myself to listening post mortems by the Dall rabble.  Sure to get a roasting from JJ, Auld Stock & Hand Up now for that sentiment relating to The Town, ah well, freedom of expression.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 01:12:14 PM
Good luck to both teams today. No need for the umbrellas today lads, best weather of the year up here today so far. She's 17° oot in our yard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 27, 2015, 01:40:29 PM
Good luck to both teams and hopefully we'll get the result that the bitter one doesn't want!!
Yeh SIE weather looking class, roll out the red carpet, we are on route!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2015, 02:04:20 PM
Best of luck to both teams today.  Honestly with no hatred involved I think this young town team may need beat in a final or two before they win one, think the dall will be to championship hardened for them. Cdall by 5. But it's good to see ballycastle making shapes and hopefully there around for a day or two.  Good for Antrim hurling.  Up the Shamrocks!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 27, 2015, 01:40:29 PM
Good luck to both teams and hopefully we'll get the result that the bitter one doesn't want!!
Yeh SIE weather looking class, roll out the red carpet, we are on route!!
Bitter? Nah not me.  Must be onnerous and unnerving being the most disliked hurling fraternity in the county or maybe its just the Dall self persecution?

  Mon the Town.  Town would be a great win for the not so nuetral Nuetrals!

Consider this man, at least you know where you stand with me. I am known to be a 'WUM' as they put it, but dont mince my words. I've also said I have no real affection for the Dall, hence my references to The Town as an under dog.  Remember though, Dall have not gained their noteriety by being an honest or a credible broker.  They brought the spotlight on themselves, they and they alone. Smoke and Fire resonates with me regarding Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 27, 2015, 02:36:11 PM
Would the game on telly or radio for us folk not able to make the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 03:00:30 PM
3 to Nil for the Town. Mon the Black & Amber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 03:08:46 PM
5-1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 03:09:48 PM
5 - 3 The Town.

6 - 3 The Town.

7 - 4 The Town.

10 - 5 The Town
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
1-11 to 0-5 The Town. Oh mammy!  HT.

Clarkey and wee Saul are flying. Neal having a blinder, some great catches and fielding, mighty stuff. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 27, 2015, 03:32:11 PM
Strong wind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 27, 2015, 03:32:11 PM
Strong wind?
Aye, about 15 maroon bags of wind! 😊  Nothing is Won.  I'm sure to get a barrage of abuse from JJ, Auld Stock and Hand Up now, but I dont care really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
1-12 to 1-6 The Town.

1-13 to 1 -9, steady now boys.

1-13 to 2-9.

Level (16's)

Dall by 1

Ah jesus, I have just been outed by a Dall man. Need to watch me back now. Looking over my shoulder. Seen me posting. Oh dear!

Dall by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 27, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
Updates!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 27, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
dall up one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 27, 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Cushendall 2 14 Ballycastle 1 15 latest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
Dall by 4. Its all over well it us now.

Fair play to the Dall, but sure Ballycran/galget or S-Neill will avenge.

So which one of you Dall men brought me to the attention of the moderator eh?  WHO DUNNIT? Come on now, own up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Congrats to the dall. Best game of the year. I know it's hard to take but ballycastle players can hold their heads high. A different run of luck and those rebounds of the post and Bar would have sneaked in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
Congrats to the dall. Best game of the year. I know it's hard to take but ballycastle players can hold their heads high. A different run of luck and those rebounds of the post and Bar would have sneaked in.
Great display and effort by the Town, a young team robbed by the the upright and crossbar. Great experience for them and can only be promising.

Drumadoon, is my steak ready yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 27, 2015, 07:11:45 PM
Dose any one who was at the game think Ballycastle should have played a sweeper in the second half playing against the wind? I was kind of surprised they didn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 27, 2015, 07:24:24 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 27, 2015, 07:11:45 PM
Dose any one who was at the game think Ballycastle should have played a sweeper in the second half playing against the wind? I was kind of surprised they didn't.
Low and Hard, I was thinking the same thing myself. May have negated a few score alright.  But The Town can only be proud of their petformance today with such a young inexperienced team. Young Lambs against well serviced Ewes I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Very entertaining game. Ballycastle with 4 points in the second half says it all. The wind wasn't THAT bad either but had a bearing alright. Serious pace in some of those ballycastle forwards and mcauley was very good. Young mcnaughton very good though carson the main guy today i thought. Won a lot of ball.

Good crowd there. Good venue and well marshalled by skull etc.

Ref played more advantages than i've ever seen in a match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Very entertaining game. Ballycastle with 4 points in the second half says it all. The wind wasn't THAT bad either but had a bearing alright. Serious pace in some of those ballycastle forwards and mcauley was very good. Young mcnaughton very good though carson the main guy today i thought. Won a lot of ball.

Good crowd there. Good venue and well marshalled by skull etc.

Ref played more advantages than i've ever seen in a match.
Applied correctly, this can only be a good thing. Long overdue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 27, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
Eoghan Campbell got forward more in the 2nd half and that had a decent impact. A half back getting a 3 pointer is very helpful. The fact that Conor Carson won a lot of high ball in the 2nd half was the platform for the comeback. Strange game of hurling. Thought Stevie McGarry was unlucky to be taken off. TT Butler's first score was a beaut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2015, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Very entertaining game. Ballycastle with 4 points in the second half says it all. The wind wasn't THAT bad either but had a bearing alright. Serious pace in some of those ballycastle forwards and mcauley was very good. Young mcnaughton very good though carson the main guy today i thought. Won a lot of ball.

Good crowd there. Good venue and well marshalled by skull etc.

Ref played more advantages than i've ever seen in a match.
Applied correctly, this can only be a good thing. Long overdue.

Agreed. Campbell was very good yes. Very athletic which cushendall needed as they were struggling a bit for pace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Cushendall's goals both came from runs ripping through the centre of ballycastle defense then a simple lay off. Sweeper may have helped stop that. 

Ballycastle are young though. If they keep going they could get a championship out of that team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 27, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
balls.great big balls  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on September 27, 2015, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 27, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
balls.great big balls  ;)

Is having the final outside of casement a good thing ??

Are cushendall good enough to challenge for an all Ireland club ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2015, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 27, 2015, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 27, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
balls.great big balls  ;)

Is having the final outside of casement a good thing ??

Are cushendall good enough to challenge for an all Ireland club ???

Nope... I've been down to all their games over last few years... Just seem to miss that special quality to engineer a win... Always competitive but miss that something.... I hope they do break that duck as the lads that have tried over the years deserve it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 27, 2015, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2015, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: ashman on September 27, 2015, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 27, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
balls.great big balls  ;)

Is having the final outside of casement a good thing ??

Are cushendall good enough to challenge for an all Ireland club ???

Nope... I've been down to all their games over last few years... Just seem to miss that special quality to engineer a win... Always competitive but miss that something.... I hope they do break that duck as the lads that have tried over the years deserve it

They won't even win ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2015, 07:43:51 AM
Quote from: ashman on September 27, 2015, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 27, 2015, 10:17:19 PM
balls.great big balls  ;)

Is having the final outside of casement a good thing ??

Are cushendall good enough to challenge for an all Ireland club ???

The atmosphere is considerably better out of casement. Borderline full house as opposed to a 2/3 empty stadium. Should have been out of it for years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2015, 08:57:32 AM
And yet an all we have leadership who convince us that playing in what will be a 1/7th full swanky new stadium will help promote our games  :-\

Its a complete no brainer. Attendances have went up and atmosphere better BECAUSE both the size and the location (for neutrals) made people want to go.


Really enjoyed the game. Some super play and scores from both teams. Ballycastle just weren't battle hardened enough to hold onto their lead. Cushendall sensed the fear of losing and went for it. Owen Campbell's goal one of the best ever in big club game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 09:24:15 AM
though it was a great game for a neutral to watch. Big crowd, great support for the teams esp ballycastle, goals, last min cross bar etc. This is what our championship should be about and it was good to see.

Ballycastle will be kicking themselves. up by 9 and a 13 point swing to lose by 4. really felt for them as most neutral, me included, wanted them to win it for a change.

Not as many there as the previous week, all the miserable sods must of came for the freebie :) but none the less it was a great spectacle for all.

Never as glad not to see a draw in a game, thats me done directing cars for the year! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 28, 2015, 09:26:25 AM
What a performance from our boys, especially the first half. Such a young team and maybe our inexperience hurt us in the second half. Hopefully we will be back in a final soon and with the experience of yesterday behind us we will lift the cup next time. Proud of them all, up the black and amber.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 28, 2015, 09:37:23 AM
Obviously delighted our boys turned it around and won another championship, very hard luck to Ballycastle, im sure they are gutted but can be proud of their progress this year.

As for ourselves I thought we where poor enough again, we will not get out of Ulster if we play like that, Carson who has been poor all year had a good game winning posession when  no one else was, for me P Magill was the best player we had on the pitch, as I said very proud of our boys but a massive improvement needed if we are going to progress. Badly hungover ATM, sooner I get on the high stool again the better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurl away on September 28, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
It's great that some people still think Ballycastle where u lucky, what other team turns a 9 point defeat into a 4 point win, credit where credit is due, the boys will have a well earned break after 3 hard weeks hurling and regroup again and hope to win Ulster, Ballycastle hard luck you will be back!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurl away on September 28, 2015, 09:55:32 AM

It's great that some people still think Ballycastle were unlucky, what other team turns a 9 point defeat into a 4 point win, credit where credit is due, the boys will have a well earned break after 3 hard weeks hurling and regroup again and hope to win Ulster, Ballycastle hard luck you will be back!
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Quote from: Hurl away on September 28, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
It's great that some people still think Ballycastle where u lucky, what other team turns a 9 point defeat into a 4 point win, credit where credit is due, the boys will have a well earned break after 3 hard weeks hurling and regroup again and hope to win Ulster, Ballycastle hard luck you will be back!
"Quitters never win and winners never quit"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
minor match on sat for me first game, really looking forward to this game. St Patricks have a good strong team and they beat a much fancied st johns team to get there. Our lads have went from strength to strength and for the first time in a long time we have a good minor panel that gives me something to look forward to the future with.

Very tight game on sat but hopefully we can pull through it.

Suns game will be very tight but i think that Cdall have too much know how about this panel for the town. They have plenty of experience at this stage of a season and should handle the occasion better.

Be nice to see ballycastle win it to have someone diff win it but i think that Cdall will come through by 3 points

i wasnt that far off with my prediction.

great pic from ydays game

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12049640_491781894333869_158210717506845277_n.jpg?oh=cf171f69bfe13b84f1a435daacbe1b23&oe=56989425)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 28, 2015, 11:49:44 AM
Crans beat us in the end with a 1-3 in the last 5 minutes to win by 2 points.

Stop startish game throughout, with two bad looking knee injuries, Michael Ennis first for Ballycran, then Deccy McManus went over on his midway through the second half. Hope both come out of them alright!.

We played with a stiff enough breeze with Graham able to puck the ball down on top of the other 21 with ease (those balls are not the same as they were 10 years ago, as he wasn't able to do that then!!), but we didn't make full use of it and didn't get the scores we should have, plus a few missed frees always gave Ballycran a slight hope at the turnaround.
Second half we started out rightly, kept the scoreboard ticking over and keeping the 3-4 point gap, then when Deccy went off we'd no real replacement for him as he was getting on a lot of ball in the middle and driving it on. That allowed Ballycran to get a foothold and they'd our defence under serious pressure, then they threw on a big lad onto the edge of the square who plays mostly seconds and the lack of physicality in our defence told as he just was a nuisance and layed off the ball for the goal that brought them level. We'd no kick in us at this stage, our forwards taking one pass too many and not taking on the shot themselves then the ball went down the field and over our bar, game over.

Well done the Crans, they know they can play better and will need to against Slaughneil in two weeks time.

As for us, strength in depth is still a concern and will be an issue for another few years until we get a few young lads through into adult hurling, good enough minors this year, U16's we're weak numbers wise, but still two or three good wee hurlers in the mix that need brought through, so its not all doom and gloom for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 28, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 28, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
minor match on sat for me first game, really looking forward to this game. St Patricks have a good strong team and they beat a much fancied st johns team to get there. Our lads have went from strength to strength and for the first time in a long time we have a good minor panel that gives me something to look forward to the future with.

Very tight game on sat but hopefully we can pull through it.

Suns game will be very tight but i think that Cdall have too much know how about this panel for the town. They have plenty of experience at this stage of a season and should handle the occasion better.

Be nice to see ballycastle win it to have someone diff win it but i think that Cdall will come through by 3 points

i wasnt that far off with my prediction.

great pic from ydays game

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12049640_491781894333869_158210717506845277_n.jpg?oh=cf171f69bfe13b84f1a435daacbe1b23&oe=56989425)

Quality photo, I'm completely of the opinion of getting the finals out of casement, i would love something at Dunsilly like at Owenbeg enough for around 8,000 one good stand and lots of standing space.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 28, 2015, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 28, 2015, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 28, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 28, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 24, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
minor match on sat for me first game, really looking forward to this game. St Patricks have a good strong team and they beat a much fancied st johns team to get there. Our lads have went from strength to strength and for the first time in a long time we have a good minor panel that gives me something to look forward to the future with.

Very tight game on sat but hopefully we can pull through it.

Suns game will be very tight but i think that Cdall have too much know how about this panel for the town. They have plenty of experience at this stage of a season and should handle the occasion better.

I swear if you Zoom in enough you can see an anti Shamrocks Banner in the back window of one of the local houses... dosent look as big a crowd as the semi final, I may be wrong. is their a similar pic of semi final? great photo all the same and Dunloy should be proud of how they have facilitated the last few games (as should Ballycastle in recent past). great advert of what clubs can achieve with the foresight and appitude.

Be nice to see ballycastle win it to have someone diff win it but i think that Cdall will come through by 3 points

i wasnt that far off with my prediction.

great pic from ydays game

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12049640_491781894333869_158210717506845277_n.jpg?oh=cf171f69bfe13b84f1a435daacbe1b23&oe=56989425)

Quality photo, I'm completely of the opinion of getting the finals out of casement, i would love something at Dunsilly like at Owenbeg enough for around 8,000 one good stand and lots of standing space.

I swear if you Zoom in enough you can see an anti Shamrocks Banner in the back window of one of the local houses... dosent look as big a crowd as the semi final, I may be wrong. is their a similar pic of semi final? great photo all the same and Dunloy should be proud of how they have facilitated the last few games (as should Ballycastle in recent past). great advert of what clubs can achieve with the foresight and appitude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 28, 2015, 01:16:49 PM
Well done to Cushendall, tis bound to some feeling for them today. They could realistically have lost all 3 games as they were behind in the second half in each but showed some fight to come through and win.  Fair play to them and good luck in the Ulster campaign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 28, 2015, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.

Let's not get carried away  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.
I don't see how it would.  As Loughgiel winning it was the worst thing to happen Antrim hurling since 83.  Outside our own club that is.  No, your best of not even winning Ulster.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
Congratulations to Cdall by the way.  Should probably have said that first. As I thought the towns inexperience done them in the end. Cdall just have that championship no how.  You don't teach that.  A lot of them have been there 10 years + now. If that young Ballycastle team can show next year that this hasn't been a flash in the pan, then I believe that would be better for Antrim hurling, another top club back in the fold.  Hard luck the town. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.
I don't see how it would.  As Loughgiel winning it was the worst thing to happen Antrim hurling since 83.  Outside our own club that is.  No, your best of not even winning Ulster.  :o
And sure there's no good teams left down south anymore, hardly worth winning.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
They'll be good this year. They just aren't great every year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.
I don't see how it would.  As Loughgiel winning it was the worst thing to happen Antrim hurling since 83.  Outside our own club that is.  No, your best of not even winning Ulster.  :o
And sure there's no good teams left down south anymore, hardly worth winning.   ;)
haha. Forgot that one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2015, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
They'll be good this year. They just aren't great every year  ;)
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 03:12:55 PM
sure did use not know that the seasons you won it were the official rest year for all the top teams :D lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Lol.Bad old timing by yourselves then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2015, 03:30:41 PM
DR how did the minor game go saturday?

From what I heard you guys were the best team but if the game had went on longer may have been in trouble??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
aye every single time we went down! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2015, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 28, 2015, 03:30:41 PM
DR how did the minor game go saturday?

From what I heard you guys were the best team but if the game had went on longer may have been in trouble??

we were the better team for the most of the match but just didnt get going at all. The better players like Keelan Molloy and Conal Cunning didnt get going at all. It took other lads to step up. Connor Kinsella at full back was unreal, brilliant hurler. Eamon Smyth at centre half had a strong game as well.

They got the goals at the death and i can tell you i was glad to hear the ref blow the full time whistle!

The most of the team is minor next season again with some of them having 3 more years at minor level. Seaan Elliott only turned 15 the other week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
I've friends in both camps. was leaning for the town on this one.

Sounded like a class game. I think the town will win within the next few years, There management need credit for stepping in mid season.

The dall done so well to not get shell shocked after that powerful start from the town. I really hope we as a county can get behind them, it'd be great for them and Antrim if they were to lift sliver on St Paddy's.
I don't see how it would.  As Loughgiel winning it was the worst thing to happen Antrim hurling since 83.  Outside our own club that is.  No, your best of not even winning Ulster.  :o

That is quite an injection of bitterness in a post aimed at unity. I believe once the county champions have been elected we should support them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 05:10:56 PM
No bitterness on my behalf.  Just stating that the last time an Antrim team won the All Ireland it done the county more harm than good!!  Anyways. Maybe wait to there out of Ulster before talking about winning it? Was nothing learned from last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2015, 07:01:05 PM
Quote from: pullhard on September 28, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
That is quite an injection of bitterness in a post aimed at unity. I believe once the county champions have been elected we should support them

::) Oh pulleeese  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 07:45:23 PM
Isn't jealousy and envy a terrible thing?  The Dall men did (NOT) all in their power to unite the county over the past few years on the back of their NA neighbours success.   Very commendable behaviour don you think? A terrible shame really.

Instead of embracing the success and achievement of their neighbours, the mighty one and his cohorts seen it as an opportunity to ostracise and exclude key players, which our county could ill afford to do without. Lets be honest here, has this years dismal performance by Antrim in league and championship been best served by making it an cold house for some of our finer players (regardless of which club they represent)?? 

So lets all row in behind the Dall now, eh?   I fear not, the damage they have caused is unfathomable at this stage I regret to say.    But hold on a wee second, we may be getting ahead of ourselves very prematurely, they have a bye to an Ulster final, which has not been won as yet!  Come on the Cran/S-niel.

Persona non grata - still prevails, see how the Dall men like it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I've no bitterness against Cdall again I must say. They deserved there glory.  All I'll say is win ulster before talk of wanting support for an All Ireland.   Geteven how long do you think you'll keep this shit up for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I've no bitterness against Cdall again I must say. They deserved there glory.  All I'll say is win ulster before talk of wanting support for an All Ireland.   Geteven how long do you think you'll keep this shit up for?
Don't confuse Sh*T with fact and honesty man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I've no bitterness against Cdall again I must say. They deserved there glory.  All I'll say is win ulster before talk of wanting support for an All Ireland.   Geteven how long do you think you'll keep this shit up for?
Don't confuse Sh*T with fact and honesty man.
all your doing on here is stirring and twisting. You wouldn't no many facts of the matter.  Of that am pretty sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2015, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I've no bitterness against Cdall again I must say. They deserved there glory.  All I'll say is win ulster before talk of wanting support for an All Ireland.   Geteven how long do you think you'll keep this shit up for?
Don't confuse Sh*T with fact and honesty man.
all your doing on here is stirring and twisting. You wouldn't no many facts of the matter.  Of that am pretty sure.



Check your PMs you'll be due one for speaking your mind against him/her!!

I thought C'Dall were deserving winners yesterday. Carson, Magill, Christy all stood up and delivered big performances along with the usual suspects. I'm sure the GAA people in C'Dall aren't talking about winning Ulster, but actually talking about competing with Ballycran or S'Neill in the final if they do get the bye.
Ballycastle can take some heart in the performance they gave, some great performances, it would be good to see them back competing in county finals on a regular basis.

Fair play to Dunloy for the hosting, superb job again.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 28, 2015, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 28, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
I've no bitterness against Cdall again I must say. They deserved there glory.  All I'll say is win ulster before talk of wanting support for an All Ireland.   Geteven how long do you think you'll keep this shit up for?
Don't confuse Sh*T with fact and honesty man.
all your doing on here is stirring and twisting. You wouldn't no many facts of the matter.  Of that am pretty sure.



Check your PMs you'll be due one for speaking your mind against him/her!!

I thought C'Dall were deserving winners yesterday. Carson, Magill, Christy all stood up and delivered big performances along with the usual suspects. I'm sure the GAA people in C'Dall aren't talking about winning Ulster, but actually talking about competing with Ballycran or S'Neill in the final if they do get the bye.
Ballycastle can take some heart in the performance they gave, some great performances, it would be good to see them back competing in county finals on a regular basis.

Fair play to Dunloy for the hosting, superb job again.
Ooops! Warning! Clearly no honour among zealots and ostriches. 

Ah well, so much for speaking your mind and freedom of speech.  Trolling material they say!

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement. Never, not me! deliberate provocation, no way.

Well I thought it was topical, accurate and relevant. Just that others are afraid to speak their mind or pretend it did not happen!

Come on the Dall, do Antrim proud in Ulster!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 28, 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Anybody in contact with anyone in Ballygalget? I am hearing word that someone from their club has had a bad accident. Thoughts and prayers are with all.  I heard a name but didnt want to throw it out there in case its wrong. I hope the person that was in touch is wrong.
Johnny Mc Gratten in a bad way.  Intensive care.  Thoughts and prayers with him and his family. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2015, 10:15:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 28, 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Anybody in contact with anyone in Ballygalget? I am hearing word that someone from their club has had a bad accident. Thoughts and prayers are with all.  I heard a name but didnt want to throw it out there in case its wrong. I hope the person that was in touch is wrong.
Johnny Mc Gratten in a bad way.  Intensive care.  Thoughts and prayers with him and his family.

Just seen that on FB... Speedy recovery and prayers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 28, 2015, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2015, 10:15:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 28, 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Anybody in contact with anyone in Ballygalget? I am hearing word that someone from their club has had a bad accident. Thoughts and prayers are with all.  I heard a name but didnt want to throw it out there in case its wrong. I hope the person that was in touch is wrong.
Johnny Mc Gratten in a bad way.  Intensive care.  Thoughts and prayers with him and his family.

Just seen that on FB... Speedy recovery and prayers
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 28, 2015, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 28, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: shoebox on September 28, 2015, 10:11:16 PM
Anybody in contact with anyone in Ballygalget? I am hearing word that someone from their club has had a bad accident. Thoughts and prayers are with all.  I heard a name but didnt want to throw it out there in case its wrong. I hope the person that was in touch is wrong.
Johnny Mc Gratten in a bad way.  Intensive care.  Thoughts and prayers with him and his family.

Sadly it's true, fell at home on Sunday night, hitting his head and in the Royal intensive care unit.

Hopefully he'll pull through, but its very worrying times for him and the McGrattan family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
Best picture of the weekend for me.

A cushendall team isnt complete without John!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP8FifHWoAA6Q5X.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2015, 09:15:44 AM
Wouldn't be Cushendall without John, heres another cracker
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/t31.0-8/12006480_534878829996871_7516663340068298366_o.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on September 29, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
Why are people suggesting that Cushendall get a bye to the final? I thought they play the winner of Middletown/Lisbellew in the semi?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 10:00:00 AM
yeah they play the winners of that game, its this weekend at 3.30 in Maguiresbridge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 10:22:53 AM
Edwin Poots on radio ulster wanting the GAA to remove the tri-colour and the solider song to encourage unionists to come to games.

Christ, unionists wanting flegs removed! lol what an idiot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 29, 2015, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2015, 10:22:53 AM
Edwin Poots on radio ulster wanting the GAA to remove the tri-colour and the solider song to encourage unionists to come to games.

Christ, unionists wanting flegs removed! lol what an idiot
unreal. So, is he wanting the IFA to remove all union flags and ni and loyalists flags around Windsor and stop playing God save the Queen at NI matches to encourage nationalists to go to NI matches? Hilarious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2015, 10:54:30 AM
Me and a friend were talkign the other day about that British Army team in London if they make it to a final, we'll have representatives of the British army standing for amhran na bhfiann
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 10:58:13 AM
I was getting more and more angry listening to it.

Always the same, unionists wanting nationalist to make concession after concession yet never once will they match the gesture. The GAA doesn't need to change, its doesn't need unionist support, its doesn't need its approval.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2015, 11:02:41 AM
It's an irish organisation. It's ludicrous but another cheap stupid point scoring exercise from people who are nothing but bigots.

It is just a tit for tat for the "they're eroding our culture" paranoia to try and be smart and think they're doing the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2015, 11:28:57 AM
I never understand why people feel the need to want to change our organisation to pander to unionist politicians. The GAA is sucessfull within this island and is now selling itself around the world big time.

Even in England is it starting to get people watching it who have never seen it in their life before. They accept it as an Irish sport, and expression of Irish culture and everything that goes along with it.

Just look at stormont recently when someone put a tri-colour up in it for a laugh and they went into melt down and wanted a police inquiry to catch the ones responsible and charge them! lol shared space indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
Even Joey Barton loves hurling now ;D

It's just unionists doing what they do best. Load of nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2015, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 29, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
Why are people suggesting that Cushendall get a bye to the final? I thought they play the winner of Middletown/Lisbellew in the semi?
Apologies to Armagh and Fermanagh but still a bye in all but name. Slaughtneil to beat the Dall in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Aerlik on September 29, 2015, 02:06:25 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 29, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall.

They  deserve a lot of credit for their Championship campaign.  Up against it in QF v St John's, SF v Loughgiel and in the Final against The Town and had the skill & determination to come through and win. 
Personally I'm terribly disappointed but I'm sure not as gutted as our players.  They put in a great shift and were very close.  The width of a crossbar maybe.

If Ballycastle can keep these boys together I'd certainly be looking forward with a lot of hope.

Great work again by the Dunloy club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ballybredagh on September 29, 2015, 10:24:07 PM
Don't see Slaughtneil getting to the Ulster final, never mind beating Cushendall. I expect Ballycran to get to the final and to come up short against Cushendall. The Dall are a much better team than they are being given credit for and won't be afflicted by complacency this year. Their second half recovery on Sunday was a marker for how good they can be. I think that they will prevail in Ulster and could Spring a surprise or two beyond that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on September 29, 2015, 10:24:07 PM
Don't see Slaughtneil getting to the Ulster final, never mind beating Cushendall. I expect Ballycran to get to the final and to come up short against Cushendall. The Dall are a much better team than they are being given credit for and won't be afflicted by complacency this year. Their second half recovery on Sunday was a marker for how good they can be. I think that they will prevail in Ulster and could Spring a surprise or two beyond that.
Don't underestimate any team come championship, did last year and last Sunday not teach us anything at all?

As for an All Ireland crown, time well tell!

"Forest, life is like a box if chocolates, you just dont know what your going to get".  In this case who?   S-neil or Cran dont view them as invincible opponents, thats fore sure. 

But I'm biased of course and referred to as a 'bitter one'.  Well' I prefer a realistic one, because history tells me so.

S-niel could surprise and impress just like last few years. Is such a statement volatile, provocative and offensive to some? Well, to the known few maybe!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2015, 08:14:53 AM
Cushendall are decent but I don't think they're at the level that will challenge for AI or even a final. Hope I'm wrong mind...

I think they're a lot better this year mind with McCambridge coming on a lot in defense, Christy McNaughton becoming another viable scoring outlet and Magill returning to a bit more like his former self.

They will get it tight enough getting out of ulster. Ballycran and Slaughtneil will be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 08:39:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2015, 08:14:53 AM
Cushendall are decent but I don't think they're at the level that will challenge for AI or even a final. Hope I'm wrong mind...

I think they're a lot better this year mind with McCambridge coming on a lot in defense, Christy McNaughton becoming another viable scoring outlet and Magill returning to a bit more like his former self.

They will get it tight enough getting out of ulster. Ballycran and Slaughtneil will be interesting.
+1

Now dont be biased ITG, that would never do now.  Some very sensitive idividuals about this world and likely to take such matters to a higher authority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
I will be interested to see how Ballycran fare against S'Neill next week. With Sneill playing in the Derry football final this weekend against Coleraine it could take it out of them.

A Ballycran v Cdall final would be a cracking game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 30, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
I will be interested to see how Ballycran fare against S'Neill next week. With Sneill playing in the Derry football final this weekend against Coleraine it could take it out of them.

A Ballycran v Cdall final would be a cracking game

Wilson still looking after Ballycran?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 30, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
again ignoring our resident board WUM lunatic.

especially after last year no one is looking any further than trying to win an Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 30, 2015, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 30, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
I will be interested to see how Ballycran fare against S'Neill next week. With Sneill playing in the Derry football final this weekend against Coleraine it could take it out of them.

A Ballycran v Cdall final would be a cracking game

Wilson still looking after Ballycran?

No, he was foisted at the start of the year by a 10 man interview panel  8)

Stevie McAree and Hugh Gilmore are their management team at the minute.

Michael Ennis is out with a cruciate injury. He's a big loss to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 30, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
again ignoring our resident board WUM lunatic.

especially after last year no one is looking any further than trying to win an Ulster.
No sweat, do ur thing man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2015, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on September 29, 2015, 10:24:07 PM
Don't see Slaughtneil getting to the Ulster final, never mind beating Cushendall. I expect Ballycran to get to the final and to come up short against Cushendall. The Dall are a much better team than they are being given credit for and won't be afflicted by complacency this year. Their second half recovery on Sunday was a marker for how good they can be. I think that they will prevail in Ulster and could Spring a surprise or two beyond that.
Don't underestimate any team come championship, did last year and last Sunday not teach us anything at all?

As for an All Ireland crown, time well tell!

"Forest, life is like a box if chocolates, you just dont know what your going to get".  In this case who?   S-neil or Cran dont view them as invincible opponents, thats fore sure. 

But I'm biased of course and referred to as a 'bitter one'.  Well' I prefer a realistic one, because history tells me so.

S-niel could surprise and impress just like last few years. Is such a statement volatile, provocative and offensive to some? Well, to the known few maybe!
THE SPECIAL ONE  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2015, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on September 30, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
Quote from: Ballybredagh on September 29, 2015, 10:24:07 PM
Don't see Slaughtneil getting to the Ulster final, never mind beating Cushendall. I expect Ballycran to get to the final and to come up short against Cushendall. The Dall are a much better team than they are being given credit for and won't be afflicted by complacency this year. Their second half recovery on Sunday was a marker for how good they can be. I think that they will prevail in Ulster and could Spring a surprise or two beyond that.
Don't underestimate any team come championship, did last year and last Sunday not teach us anything at all?

As for an All Ireland crown, time well tell!

"Forest, life is like a box if chocolates, you just dont know what your going to get".  In this case who?   S-neil or Cran dont view them as invincible opponents, thats fore sure. 

But I'm biased of course and referred to as a 'bitter one'.  Well' I prefer a realistic one, because history tells me so.

S-niel could surprise and impress just like last few years. Is such a statement volatile, provocative and offensive to some? Well, to the known few maybe!
THE SPECIAL ONE  ;D
OOooh, a specisl one one, not  like you Loghguille men to be so humble and complimentary, asthonishing!

  Well, taking my leave for a few weeks heading overseas to tropical climbs, take care pilgrims and remember, some dodgy characters about this forum, dont say you have not been warned.  Jekyl and Hydes, Jekyl & Hides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on September 30, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall on Sunday. There appearance in 9 of the last 11 finals stood to them in the 2nd half. Their experienced players like McGill, Carson, Graffin and McManus really stood up when needed. Great 1st half show by Ballycastle. The blocking, hooking and hassling was top notch. Hopefully the players come back strong next year and learn from the experience.

On a sour note I see Dunloy couldn't prevent it from being windy either!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 11:36:45 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 30, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall on Sunday. There appearance in 9 of the last 11 finals stood to them in the 2nd half. Their experienced players like McGill, Carson, Graffin and McManus really stood up when needed. Great 1st half show by Ballycastle. The blocking, hooking and hassling was top notch. Hopefully the players come back strong next year and learn from the experience.

On a sour note I see Dunloy couldn't prevent it from being windy either!!!

Can you imagine how windy it would have been in Ballycastle?? That wind turbine would have made some electricity that day!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 11:36:45 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 30, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall on Sunday. There appearance in 9 of the last 11 finals stood to them in the 2nd half. Their experienced players like McGill, Carson, Graffin and McManus really stood up when needed. Great 1st half show by Ballycastle. The blocking, hooking and hassling was top notch. Hopefully the players come back strong next year and learn from the experience.

On a sour note I see Dunloy couldn't prevent it from being windy either!!!

Can you imagine how windy it would have been in Ballycastle?? That wind turbine would have made some electricity that day!!
It's either "disgusted with" or " on a sour note" with Fairhead.  Like I said the last time he posted on this subject and chose to ignore it.  Yes, it was windy, but not all the time.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 01, 2015, 07:50:51 AM
JC any more word on Boon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2015, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 30, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall on Sunday. There appearance in 9 of the last 11 finals stood to them in the 2nd half. Their experienced players like McGill, Carson, Graffin and McManus really stood up when needed. Great 1st half show by Ballycastle. The blocking, hooking and hassling was top notch. Hopefully the players come back strong next year and learn from the experience.

On a sour note I see Dunloy couldn't prevent it from being windy either!!!

why your club hasnt thought of building a wind turbine farm around the ground is amazing with the wind at your ground  ;D lol

We must of run of wind in the second half cause it died off a bit for cdall. I actually thought that would work to Ballycastle's favour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on October 01, 2015, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2015, 11:36:45 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on September 30, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall on Sunday. There appearance in 9 of the last 11 finals stood to them in the 2nd half. Their experienced players like McGill, Carson, Graffin and McManus really stood up when needed. Great 1st half show by Ballycastle. The blocking, hooking and hassling was top notch. Hopefully the players come back strong next year and learn from the experience.

On a sour note I see Dunloy couldn't prevent it from being windy either!!!

Can you imagine how windy it would have been in Ballycastle?? That wind turbine would have made some electricity that day!!
It's either "disgusted with" or " on a sour note" with Fairhead.  Like I said the last time he posted on this subject and chose to ignore it.  Yes, it was windy, but not all the time.  ;)

You know rightly SIE that my comments were tongue in cheek. And your exactly right its not windy all the time at all venues including Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 09:08:03 AM
Would there be any legs on the rumour of Mattie Lennon being offered the Antrim Position?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
Heres the Provisional Dates for Antrim From the Examiner too
Derry         Sun 14 Feb             Away
Kildare               Sun 21st Feb             Home
Westmeath      Sun 6th March    Away
Carlow         Sun 13 March            Home
London         Sun 20th March    Away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
even in a lower division we still manage to get 2 home games! lol

On paper we should have more than enough to win that, its the play off game which we would struggle in. Sigh, the depression of county hurling is back to haunt us lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
I see the junior and intermediate are on this weekend.

Anyone know how come keady are in the intermediate and middletown senior? They should both be senior in armagh so i'd have thought only one would be competing?

Creggan should probably get through but keady could be tough for them. Not sure how rasharkin will go but would expect they'll be there or thereabouts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 02, 2015, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 09:08:03 AM
Would there be any legs on the rumour of Mattie Lennon being offered the Antrim Position?
no, none at all, all shall be revealed soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 02, 2015, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 09:08:03 AM
Would there be any legs on the rumour of Mattie Lennon being offered the Antrim Position?
no, none at all, all shall be revealed soon
I believe there are interviews next week some time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 02, 2015, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 09:08:03 AM
Would there be any legs on the rumour of Mattie Lennon being offered the Antrim Position?
no, none at all, all shall be revealed soon
I believe there are interviews next week some time.

No more rumours on who's in the running?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 02, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 02, 2015, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 02, 2015, 09:08:03 AM
Would there be any legs on the rumour of Mattie Lennon being offered the Antrim Position?
no, none at all, all shall be revealed soon
I believe there are interviews next week some time.

No more rumours on who's in the running?
I haven't heard anymore names other than those already out there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2015, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
I see the junior and intermediate are on this weekend.

Anyone know how come keady are in the intermediate and middletown senior? They should both be senior in armagh so i'd have thought only one would be competing?

Creggan should probably get through but keady could be tough for them. Not sure how rasharkin will go but would expect they'll be there or thereabouts.

Keady and Cuchullains were to play each other in a play off to see who got into the IHC to play in it. Cuchullains pulled out of the game and Keady were given a 'walkover' so thats why Keady are there.

Apparently cuchullains were unable to field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 02, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
even in a lower division we still manage to get 2 home games! lol

On paper we should have more than enough to win that, its the play off game which we would struggle in. Sigh, the depression of county hurling is back to haunt us lol

Well that sums it up!
Cannot even get motivated with interest in a new manager with that fixture list!

Ballycran Slaughtneil Cushendall - who would be favourites?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 02, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
Cushendall very slightly for me. However, it would be no great surprise to me if the winner came from the other semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2015, 04:07:35 PM
Cdall got lucky last year. Sneill have a football final to contend with this weekend, it all depends how they come through that game.

Ballycran are an unknow to me at this stage, they have been the fav for Down so often yet didnt win it. This year they have come through it. League wise they flew out of the traps at the start and looked good.

Hard to call at this stage. Cdall will be in the final barring some sort of mad collapse. Who they will play is hard to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2015, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
I see the junior and intermediate are on this weekend.

Anyone know how come keady are in the intermediate and middletown senior? They should both be senior in armagh so i'd have thought only one would be competing?

Creggan should probably get through but keady could be tough for them. Not sure how rasharkin will go but would expect they'll be there or thereabouts.

Keady and Cuchullains were to play each other in a play off to see who got into the IHC to play in it. Cuchullains pulled out of the game and Keady were given a 'walkover' so thats why Keady are there.

Apparently cuchullains were unable to field.

Were keady not in armagh senior though?

Seems a bit odd that one team deemed the same level as another can go from senior to intermediate based on one game and also someone who loses their c'ship still gets into ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
They were in it, beat in the final. They seem to have a play off to see who gets into the intermediate championship. They have a Junior championship.

Do they have enough teams to have an intermediate championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
Don't know. I guess maybe senior losers are honorary intermediate champions or something.

Didn't realise it worked like that.

Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
Don't know. I guess maybe senior losers are honorary intermediate champions or something.

Didn't realise it worked like that.

Cheers.

Derry not similar ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 02, 2015, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
They were in it, beat in the final. They seem to have a play off to see who gets into the intermediate championship. They have a Junior championship.

Do they have enough teams to have an intermediate championship?
Middletown, Keady and Cuchullains are the top tier in Armagh so there are rarely any surprises in the SHC. Derrynoose, Sean Treacy's, Killeavy and Craobh Rua the main juniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 04, 2015, 05:39:14 PM
Rasharkin and Ballela draw, rasharkin 9 up at half time in extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on October 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
9 up at half time in extra time??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Ballela are a great wee club. Keeping hurling going in the middle of nowhere. Fair dues to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2015, 07:24:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Ballela are a great wee club. Keeping hurling going in the middle of nowhere. Fair dues to them.
Patronising bastard!  :D

I was at the Creggan Castleblayney match. Poor fare and very one-sided. Gives no real indication of Creggan's actual ability. Although Blayney were poor I didn't think much of the Creggan #14 (playing out the field) and their full back. We're bullied off the ball a fair bit and they'll get no change from a physical side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 04, 2015, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Ballela are a great wee club. Keeping hurling going in the middle of nowhere. Fair dues to them.

So much irony I would hope tongue was firmly in cheek  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 08:01:29 PM
Too many cynics in this world.  ::) the post was well meaning. I know a few folks from around there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 04, 2015, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 08:01:29 PM
Too many cynics in this world.  ::) the post was well meaning. I know a few folks from around there.

Jesus, I agree. Those who took offence at your post (unless winding you up) need to wind their neck in. I took nothing but you saying fair f*cks to them for keeping it going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 09:25:45 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 04, 2015, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 08:01:29 PM
Too many cynics in this world.  ::) the post was well meaning. I know a few folks from around there.

Jesus, I agree. Those who took offence at your post (unless winding you up) need to wind their neck in. I took nothing but you saying fair f*cks to them for keeping it going.
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2015, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 04, 2015, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 08:01:29 PM
Too many cynics in this world.  ::) the post was well meaning. I know a few folks from around there.

Jesus, I agree. Those who took offence at your post (unless winding you up) need to wind their neck in. I took nothing but you saying fair f*cks to them for keeping it going.
See smiley face at end of my post. Can't be much fun with Moneyslane on your doorstep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2015, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 04, 2015, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 04, 2015, 08:01:29 PM
Too many cynics in this world.  ::) the post was well meaning. I know a few folks from around there.

Jesus, I agree. Those who took offence at your post (unless winding you up) need to wind their neck in. I took nothing but you saying fair f*cks to them for keeping it going.
See smiley face at end of my post. Can't be much fun with Moneyslane on your doorstep.
some walk to moneyslane all the same. Must be the guts of 8 mile. Surely everywhere else within a two mile circumference would be more of a dampner.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on October 04, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on October 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
9 up at half time in extra time??
The game was nip and tuck until Rasharkin pulled away, going 8 clear by half time of ET and the game looked to be over. They then went 9 up but we rallied scoring 2.3 on the bounce to get a draw and pushed for a winner. FT Ballela 3.20 Rasharkin 2.23.
In the first game of the double header our camogs beat Aghagallon in the Ulster Int so it was a memorable day down at the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on October 05, 2015, 07:12:54 AM
Quote from: Whitehair on October 04, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on October 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
9 up at half time in extra time??
The game was nip and tuck until Rasharkin pulled away, going 8 clear by half time of ET and the game looked to be over. They then went 9 up but we rallied scoring 2.3 on the bounce to get a draw and pushed for a winner. FT Ballela 3.20 Rasharkin 2.23.
In the first game of the double header our camogs beat Aghagallon in the Ulster Int so it was a memorable day down at the club.

Was there a huge wind or anything? Sounds like a cracking match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 05, 2015, 08:25:47 AM
When is the replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 05, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
it will have to be this weekend. They play Glenavy on wed night in the intermediate football semi final. The final of it is set for next weekend against ourselves.

We might get a championship to celebrate yet :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Whitehair on October 05, 2015, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 05, 2015, 07:12:54 AM
Quote from: Whitehair on October 04, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on October 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
9 up at half time in extra time??
The game was nip and tuck until Rasharkin pulled away, going 8 clear by half time of ET and the game looked to be over. They then went 9 up but we rallied scoring 2.3 on the bounce to get a draw and pushed for a winner. FT Ballela 3.20 Rasharkin 2.23.
In the first game of the double header our camogs beat Aghagallon in the Ulster Int so it was a memorable day down at the club.

Was there a huge wind or anything? Sounds like a cracking match.

There was a decent breeze but during ET both teams racked up the majority of their scores playing into it. Sums up the hectic nature of ET yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on October 05, 2015, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: Whitehair on October 04, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on October 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
9 up at half time in extra time??
The game was nip and tuck until Rasharkin pulled away, going 8 clear by half time of ET and the game looked to be over. They then went 9 up but we rallied scoring 2.3 on the bounce to get a draw and pushed for a winner. FT Ballela 3.20 Rasharkin 2.23.
In the first game of the double header our camogs beat Aghagallon in the Ulster Int so it was a memorable day down at the club.

Cheers! I thought it was a typo when I first seen it. Fair play some comeback!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Am hearing rumors of PJs back room team, pray to God he doesn't get the job.  By the lord Jesus. Please no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on October 05, 2015, 06:59:46 PM
When is the replay?......................................
Replay is This Sunday @ 3.30 in Loughiel...




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2015, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Am hearing rumors of PJs back room team, pray to God he doesn't get the job.  By the lord Jesus. Please no.

????????????????????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 05, 2015, 09:36:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2015, 09:13:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 05, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Am hearing rumors of PJs back room team, pray to God he doesn't get the job.  By the lord Jesus. Please no.

????????????????????
A couple of Rossa men, one of which isn't overly liked.A Waterford man and a has been.  That's the rumor in the big smoke!!! Time will tell,waiting on it to hit the Rag!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2015, 12:13:38 AM
Are we really in the position to choose a setup that will appease every sniper?

(http://i.imgur.com/6eLnNrs.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 06, 2015, 08:37:47 AM
Brendan Rodgers spotted in Carnlough eating Ice Cream with Frankie Quinn and Jim Murray, you heard it here first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 06, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
i heard were trying to stump liverpool by making Jurgen Klopp an offer he cant refuse!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 06, 2015, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2015, 12:13:38 AM
Are we really in the position to choose a setup that will appease every sniper?

(http://i.imgur.com/6eLnNrs.jpg)


id say the guy holding the loaf in the above pic would struggle to impress some on here......i could just imagine it now " yeah he mighta changed water into buckfast and won Antrim an all ireland but he should a played An Othet from our club. Get em out."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2015, 04:46:49 AM
Early morning milk run!! All is quite on the northern front, dead as hell on here!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 09, 2015, 08:25:32 AM
Was thinking that Myself, the aul Ruairi 's could liven things up on Sunday by getting beat!! But I don't see that this weekend anyway, sorry lads.
What about the league games, are they on this weekend? Really don't see the point as the leagues won, unless it affect relegation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 09, 2015, 09:47:15 AM
Michael Walsh has withdrawn from the running to be the next Antrim Hurling manager according to KCLR.Open door for PJ now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 09, 2015, 08:25:32 AM
Was thinking that Myself, the aul Ruairi 's could liven things up on Sunday by getting beat!! But I don't see that this weekend anyway, sorry lads.
What about the league games, are they on this weekend? Really don't see the point as the leagues won, unless it affect relegation.
not a chance this weekend.  25 points plus. Maybe the following weekend  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 09, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 09, 2015, 09:47:15 AM
Michael Walsh has withdrawn from the running to be the next Antrim Hurling manager according to KCLR.Open door for PJ now.
The door has always been open for the big man. I told you weeks back it was his.  It's his gather up that's my problem.  He'll surely not be getting the 40+ thousand the other lads got!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2015, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 09, 2015, 08:25:32 AM
Was thinking that Myself, the aul Ruairi 's could liven things up on Sunday by getting beat!! But I don't see that this weekend anyway, sorry lads.
What about the league games, are they on this weekend? Really don't see the point as the leagues won, unless it affect relegation.
not a chance this weekend.  25 points plus. Maybe the following weekend  ;D
15+ I'd think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 09, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 09, 2015, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2015, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 09, 2015, 08:25:32 AM
Was thinking that Myself, the aul Ruairi 's could liven things up on Sunday by getting beat!! But I don't see that this weekend anyway, sorry lads.
What about the league games, are they on this weekend? Really don't see the point as the leagues won, unless it affect relegation.
not a chance this weekend.  25 points plus. Maybe the following weekend  ;D
15+ I'd think.
Don't think it will be as much as that to be honest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2015, 04:07:43 PM
Cushendall not getting it all theirown way. Point down round about half time.

Slaughtneil winning by 5.

Doesn't bode well even if they do win ???

Creggan won by eight over burt to get to intermediate final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 04:35:35 PM
Middletown have a man sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 11, 2015, 04:37:16 PM
Was it the corner back? SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
Cushendall 6 up now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 11, 2015, 05:00:19 PM
Am I right in saying its Ulster v Galway champions this year?   Ports played Munster last year, we played Leinster the year before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 05:19:05 PM
Sixmilebridge won Clare. They play na piarsaigh (limerick) in a fortnight.  I Might head down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 11, 2015, 05:22:59 PM
Ballyhale out in Kilkenny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 11, 2015, 06:08:56 PM
At last, internet access.  Well done S'neill. Interesting now, my earlier prediction and bet is still good.

When you know, ya know ya know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
Good to see you still get something out of the hurling getevennotcross, despite your club exiting weeks, sorry months ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 11, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
Good to see you still get something out of the hurling getevennotcross, despite your club exiting weeks, sorry months ago.
Steady now JJ, steady boi. Nothing is won as yet, well Derry  and Antrim only at this stage.  A lot to do, a lot to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
Good to see you still get something out of the hurling getevennotcross, despite your club exiting weeks, sorry months ago.
what is his club jj?.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Johnnies man Sie. Getevennotcross we won 2 county titles in a row. If we win nothing else you can still only dream about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Johnnies man Sie. Getevennotcross we won 2 county titles in a row. If we win nothing else you can still only dream about it.
are you sure? I'd an inkling he might be a lower falls man.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 11, 2015, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Johnnies man Sie. Getevennotcross we won 2 county titles in a row. If we win nothing else you can still only dream about it.
are you sure? I'd an inkling he might be a lower falls man.  :-X
Who cares where he is from!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 11, 2015, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Johnnies man Sie. Getevennotcross we won 2 county titles in a row. If we win nothing else you can still only dream about it.
are you sure? I'd an inkling he might be a lower falls man.  :-X
Who cares where he is from!!!
true.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 11, 2015, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 11, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 11, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Johnnies man Sie. Getevennotcross we won 2 county titles in a row. If we win nothing else you can still only dream about it.
are you sure? I'd an inkling he might be a lower falls man.  :-X
galls man.  All day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 11, 2015, 09:58:47 PM
Getevennotcross is a johnnies man for definite!

He can whistle!!

Nothing but a pot stirrer!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 11, 2015, 10:04:37 PM
Anyone at the match today not think it weird Cushendall getting the Penalty in the second half surely Advantage should have been played considering we got a goal seconds after the incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
Thought Hassan was brutal throughout. Every score we got was from play. Outside of the penalty, where he did the exact opposite of what the new rule about playing a 5 second advantage is there for, he didn't give us a single free in the second half. Not one free...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 12, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
When and where is Cushendall V Slaughtneil?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2015, 11:06:54 AM
It wasn't the odd free here and there... we didn't get any frees!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:09:31 AM
I didn't have a problem with Hasson yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 12, 2015, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?

Owenbeg?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 12, 2015, 11:22:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?

id say it will be there or maybe Armagh  (could be totally wrong though)

didnt have a problem with Hasson either, he could have played the advantage rule a bit better at times but overall done ok.

The ref in the Creggan game while being pretty rubbish, played the advantage rule a lot better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2015, 11:23:58 AM
Owenbeg is great venue. I'd be happy going back there again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2015, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?

Read somewhere that the Ballycran vrs Slaughneil game was fixed for Newry (home fixture for Down team  :o  ), but due to the Down football final being played there was moved to another Down venue, Dungannon,!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 12, 2015, 11:41:22 AM
JC - What is the latest on J.McG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on October 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 12, 2015, 11:22:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?

id say it will be there or maybe Armagh  (could be totally wrong though)

didnt have a problem with Hasson either, he could have played the advantage rule a bit better at times but overall done ok.

The ref in the Creggan game while being pretty rubbish, played the advantage rule a lot better

Ulster camogie final (Loughgiel v Slaughtneil) was fixed to be in the Armagh Athletic Grounds for Sunday 25th November.

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on October 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.


JC ... do you want to deal with that point?  ;D

Taking it to Armagh would kill any chance of neutrals attending Id say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 12, 2015, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on October 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.


JC ... do you want to deal with that point?  ;D

Taking it to Armagh would kill any chance of neutrals attending Id say

Where would I start Skull?

Don't think I'll bother, exhausted with exasperation of the Ulster Councils sense of fair play when it comes to picking venues!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 12, 2015, 01:27:13 PM
always agreed on that point JC

But most people are forgetting one very important thing when it comes to the Ulster council and Hurling  -  they just dont give a feck

but just cause it was wrong before doesn't mean it should continue to be wrong when we now have the chance to change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: takeyourpoint on October 12, 2015, 01:28:50 PM
Camogie and Hurling run by 2 different associations. Who collects the all important gate money????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 12, 2015, 11:22:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 11:18:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 12, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Never really noticed anything wrong with Hasson. The odd free here or there for both teams which is I'm sure the usual for most referees.

Final on 25th Oct. No venue set yet.

Would it be beyond the powers that be to take it to Newry?

id say it will be there or maybe Armagh  (could be totally wrong though)

didnt have a problem with Hasson either, he could have played the advantage rule a bit better at times but overall done ok.

The ref in the Creggan game while being pretty rubbish, played the advantage rule a lot better

Did you honestly think he was poor? I thought he refereed it well and got all the main calls right.... advantage rule was very good on the occasions it was needed... The game was low in intensity so makes it soo much easier on the referees

Creggan need to up their intensity from the start... they came out thinking they were going to win but Burt gave them a good first half but had nowt on the bench to make a telling difference and Creggan moved up the gears in the final 10 minutes ... If they came out full on in the first half they could do damage.. always said they are a decent team and they are proving to be that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 12, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
Talking to some of our lads today, they where happy enough with Eamon, I and the supporters around me never mentioned him much, so that says it all. Talking about the ref in my view only masks the poor performance of our lads, in particular the forwards who where, considering the supply of ball very poor. The goal could have stood alright, but he didn't give it!! The lack of conviction in going for ball is worrying and won't cut it against Slaughniel. We should've easily scored 3 more goals there was so much space it was a forwards dream, or should have been.
Shane was sharp and Young David tight in defending a tricky lad. Midletown had some fantastic hurlers who would make any of the Ulster teams, I was quite impressed with them.
Slaughneil will be(no disrespect to previous opposition) our hardest test to date but if giving 60 mins of hard work and a wee slice of luck we might take a victory out of Newry/Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 07:04:02 AM
Happy enough with a ref that gave us 1 free in half an hours championship hurling? You are easy pleased.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 13, 2015, 08:10:44 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 07:04:02 AM
Happy enough with a ref that gave us 1 free in half an hours championship hurling? You are easy pleased.

Seems most sensible C'dall folk are easy pleased then, unlike yourself

Eamon didnt do much wrong, we got most of the frees we deserved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2015, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 07:04:02 AM
Happy enough with a ref that gave us 1 free in half an hours championship hurling? You are easy pleased.

Would it be the case then in the second half that you were not fouled much?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 13, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
That would be exactly the case MR2. So far in this Championship has been the most consistent refs performances in years. Well for the more sensible supporters!! Just wait to UC start to roll out the Refs from last year and you will have something to complain about!! Are their any inter county Refs from Down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 13, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
That would be exactly the case MR2. So far in this Championship has been the most consistent refs performances in years. Well for the more sensible supporters!! Just wait to UC start to roll out the Refs from last year and you will have something to complain about!! Are their any inter county Refs from Down?

Decy has quit a couple of years now so I'm not sure.... you'll probably get a Cavan or Donegal man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 13, 2015, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 13, 2015, 09:15:46 AM
That would be exactly the case MR2. So far in this Championship has been the most consistent refs performances in years. Well for the more sensible supporters!! Just wait to UC start to roll out the Refs from last year and you will have something to complain about!! Are their any inter county Refs from Down?

Not sure if Paul Branniff is intercounty or not. Might be someone from Donegal or Cavan as Milltown suggests who referee's Div4 hurling in the NHL.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 13, 2015, 09:34:15 AM
Great😡
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2015, 09:41:37 AM
Quote from: takeyourpoint on October 12, 2015, 01:28:50 PM
Camogie and Hurling run by 2 different associations. Who collects the all important gate money????

seen the Sneil ones tweeting about wanting both games at the same venue but they have overlooked what you have said there that its two separate associations.

Both will want their own gate but the camogie would be happy to split that double header while the UC wouldn't want to.

Would make sense to have them as a double header for the supporters but sure when does the ulster council do sense when it comes to fixing matches and hurling venues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on October 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.


JC ... do you want to deal with that point?  ;D

Taking it to Armagh would kill any chance of neutrals attending Id say

Are we as Antrim men seriously taking about Neutral venues??? I don't think that would go down well in other counties considering Casement Park's complete domination of Ulster finals for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 13, 2015, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 13, 2015, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on October 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.


JC ... do you want to deal with that point?  ;D

Taking it to Armagh would kill any chance of neutrals attending Id say

Are we as Antrim men seriously taking about Neutral venues??? I don't think that would go down well in other counties considering Casement Park's complete domination of Ulster finals for years.

The new Casement (if its ever built) will be a true neutral venue as it'll be owned and controlled by the Ulster council. Antrim intercounty teams will be lucky to get into it, let alone antrim club championship fixtures, so it'll be an even enough playing surface for all Ulster counties.

8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
What's the story with Walsh then? Package not right or did he just swerve it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
What's the story with Walsh then? Package not right or did he just swerve it?
probably got offers closer to home. I hear someone else from dunloy is now in the running apart from Pj.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
What's the story with Walsh then? Package not right or did he just swerve it?
probably got offers closer to home. I hear someone else from dunloy is now in the running apart from Pj.

Didnt realise PJ was still in the running?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2015, 12:08:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 13, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
What's the story with Walsh then? Package not right or did he just swerve it?
probably got offers closer to home. I hear someone else from dunloy is now in the running apart from Pj.

Didnt realise PJ was still in the running?
Aye. I believe the interview is this weekend sometime.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 13, 2015, 01:23:14 PM
Michael Walsh swerved it after intense consultation with KR who put him right and informed him there are too many skeletons in the cupboard.  Allegedly, MW was shocked, he said and I quote  "I don't know about skeletons, but there are a few lard a*se salad swervers about that Dall team! 

Don't blame me, I'm just the informed messenger.  -  Beware the wounded hurling manager, loyalty diminishes when publicly ridiculed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 13, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
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;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 13, 2015, 01:44:07 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 13, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
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;)  ;)  ;)
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Excellent news Johnny Mc Grattan is out of intensive Care.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2015, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Excellent news Johnny Mc Grattan is out of intensive Care.

Brilliant news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2015, 04:52:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2015, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Excellent news Johnny Mc Grattan is out of intensive Care.

Brilliant news
great to hear it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 14, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2015, 04:52:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2015, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 13, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Excellent news Johnny Mc Grattan is out of intensive Care.

Brilliant news
great to hear it.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 14, 2015, 09:25:41 AM
I see Johnny's brother Peter AKA, The Growler is in the Irish news in relation to his recovery, which is indeed a minor miracle considering where he was less than a week ago. Still a long way to go, but its a lot better looking now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 15, 2015, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)

In Antrim?
Surely not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 15, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)

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;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)
In the job he just left
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 15, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5133/13953783092_54352f67f8_o.jpg)

;D
?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)
In the job he just left
I wouldn't have thought so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on October 15, 2015, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)
In the job he just left
I wouldn't have thought so.


What about the shams job sie?? Hard act for anybody to follow. Anybody expressing an interest? Sure come Xmas time everybody will be starting again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 06:19:56 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on October 15, 2015, 11:28:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 15, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on October 15, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
I hear Tom McLean has left his post over in Derry. Interesting.
I doubt PJ mustn't be well liked or wanted. He's out of a job, the county need a manager,I would think if he was first choice and was wanted for the job he'd already be given it, surely an after thought at this stage.
As I'm sure you well know, certain people have personal  agendas which seem to cloud their judgement. Anyhow, no matter what happens, PJ will be around managing somewhere.  ;)
In the job he just left
I wouldn't have thought so.


What about the shams job sie?? Hard act for anybody to follow. Anybody expressing an interest? Sure come Xmas time everybody will be starting again.
all's quiet on the western front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 16, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Double header with the Camogie AFAIK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on October 16, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
Ulster camogie final (Loughgiel v Slaughtneil) was fixed to be in the Armagh Athletic Grounds for Sunday 25th November.

Would it not be wise for the powers that be, to have a double header of the camogie and hurling for Slaughtneil's supporters sake? Preferably not Owenbeg as it is not really a Neutral venue since Derry teams are competing.

A double header in the Armagh Athletic Grounds or Newry would be perfect.
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Mystic Meg!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2015, 11:07:50 AM
Ulster Senior Hurling Final between @RuairiOgCdall and @GACSlaughtneil will take place on Sun 25th Oct at 2.30pm at the Athletic Grounds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 11:07:50 AM
Ulster Senior Hurling Final between @RuairiOgCdall and @GACSlaughtneil will take place on Sun 25th Oct at 2.30pm at the Athletic Grounds

Would make sense to have a double header but probably means less neutrals will make the trek to Armagh.

Great achievement for Slaughtneil so as a club think they deserve to have a big day out for camogs and hurlers alike.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
it was only a guess. Have you any idea?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 16, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
armagh will rule alot of neutrals out of the game which is a pity.

I will make the trip down for the two matches, its a great stadium to watch a match at. Went to see the Ulster club football game there 2 seasons ago with Ballinderry & Clonoe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
it was only a guess. Have you any idea?

I don't see any outstanding candidates within the Club at present which is a shame given the playing talent we have produced.  There are a few members of the current team who will make excellent managers in years to come.

It may be they need to go further afield.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 16, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
Ciaran O Connell?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
it was only a guess. Have you any idea?

I don't see any outstanding candidates within the Club at present which is a shame given the playing talent we have produced.  There are a few members of the current team who will make excellent managers in years to come.

It may be they need to go further afield.

Woody??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
it was only a guess. Have you any idea?

I don't see any outstanding candidates within the Club at present which is a shame given the playing talent we have produced.  There are a few members of the current team who will make excellent managers in years to come.

It may be they need to go further afield.

Woody??
I was talking to a couple of fellas the day. Maybe Terence O'Mullan interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 17, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
In a wumming mode tonight SIE?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2015, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 17, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
In a wumming mode tonight SIE?  :)
I've never been a wum.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on October 17, 2015, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 17, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 16, 2015, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 16, 2015, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.
no idea. Too early to say. Maybe beaver?

I see the Ulster final is on 25th in the athletic grounds at 2.30.

No.
it was only a guess. Have you any idea?

I don't see any outstanding candidates within the Club at present which is a shame given the playing talent we have produced.  There are a few members of the current team who will make excellent managers in years to come.

It may be they need to go further afield.

Woody??
I was talking to a couple of fellas the day. Maybe Terence O'Mullan interested.
maybe so he's interested.  But he hasn't a fools chance in hell of getting it!!!! FFS!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
SHOWTIME, c'mon S'niel.

Get tore intae them glens banjo pickr'z. Ding, da ding, da ding da ding da ding. Tell lard ar*e (salad swerver) his diet isnae workin.

Hot off the Press: Colly Donnelly for next Cathoirleach. His name is now in the hat. Good luck to him, no better man and a positive step if you ask me.  About time good St. Johns men took control of this county again.

As for Terence McMullan taking over the reigns at Shamrocks, nice fella but I dont think he would have experience or wherewithall. Aidan McCarry (Beaver) would be a better choice in my book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 18, 2015, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
SIE who would be in line for the Lgiel job next season?

I heard theres a few players have decided to hang their boots up, which isnt unexpected seeing as there was a fair few older players in the squad.

Who has retired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 18, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
Geteven, your crowd will never have to worry about Slaughtneil or Ulster Finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2015, 08:13:16 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 18, 2015, 07:03:27 PM
Geteven, your crowd will never have to worry about Slaughtneil or Ulster Finals.
JJ, sure Paisley said Never, never, never!

We live in hope and endurance but we wont capitulate.  Lets see what next Sunday brings eh?




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 18, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
Hot off the Press: Colly Donnelly for next Cathoirleach. His name is now in the hat. Good luck to him, no better man and a positive step if you ask me.  About time good St. Johns men took control of this county again.
Which club is our current Cathaoirleach a member of?  ;)

I jest, of course. Collie Donnelly would be a positive development IMO.
+1,  could not agree more HS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 08:55:15 PM
Get even you won't live to see your club  come out of Antrim!! until your once decent club rid themselves of the rabble that's ruining any semblance of decency, including the likes of yourself. Collie didn't show the leadership of a potential County Chairman when as part of a committee that hid from showing the Burke family any respect for the disgraceful trampish comment made by your player this summer, Fact!!
The one thing nobody, even our bitterest rival ls can throw at us this year is lack of guts, we have faced down the barell in every match and come through. You are the first person that has in all the years I've read this thread been so disrespectful to the Antrim Champions, whoever they were,your bringing further embarrassment to your club so just go away, you haven't made one relevant useful post since you came on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Fair play to him for having the balls to go forward and if the opposition is Joe Edwards, Collie should win in a landslide. I don't envy him if he does though. Going in to pick up the pieces in that quagmire is not a task I would relish. Somebody needs to go in first though, so good luck to him. Hopefully it encourages other new faces to go in and back him.

Well I think the new faces are already sorted and in place with Collie HS no?

Interesting times ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2015, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2015, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 18, 2015, 09:10:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Fair play to him for having the balls to go forward and if the opposition is Joe Edwards, Collie should win in a landslide. I don't envy him if he does though. Going in to pick up the pieces in that quagmire is not a task I would relish. Somebody needs to go in first though, so good luck to him. Hopefully it encourages other new faces to go in and back him.

Well I think the new faces are already sorted and in place with Collie HS no?

Interesting times ahead
I heard that a couple of weeks back. Here's hoping. It is very badly needed.

+1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 18, 2015, 10:16:09 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 08:55:15 PM
Get even you won't live to see your club  come out of Antrim!! until your once decent club rid themselves of the rabble that's ruining any semblance of decency, including the likes of yourself. Collie didn't show the leadership of a potential County Chairman when as part of a committee that hid from showing the Burke family any respect for the disgraceful trampish comment made by your player this summer, Fact!!
The one thing nobody, even our bitterest rival ls can throw at us this year is lack of guts, we have faced down the barell in every match and come through. You are the first person that has in all the years I've read this thread been so disrespectful to the Antrim Champions, whoever they were,your bringing further embarrassment to your club so just go away, you haven't made one relevant useful post since you came on here.
Oooohhh, settle petal.  Disrespectful, not at all. I just have a difference of opinion than you.

My most recent post has been useful and positive I may add. A good St. Johns man running for chair and has initiated stimulating and relevent debate.  Now if we could only get a good county hurling manager whi is able to stand up to the Dall men and keep them in check, that would be welcome progress.  Do you think there are others here who would not mind seeing the Dall fail next Sunday, dont be deluded nor naive boi!

So no thugs or rabble about the Dall then?  Hhhmmm!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 10:39:50 PM
A County manager who would perhaps Gas the Chuckle Brothers for the gutless non show in the AI U21 Semi!! Charge our lads with whatever rumour you heard in the Rock Bar, but at least our lads when joining a panel respect it. And No Dall man would stoop as low as Bradley did, thankfully!!
Also I'm well aware of the level of support we will receive next Sunday from other clubs, but at least other posters have some class and don't constantly greet on like a child. Keep your chips where they should be, on the plate, not on your shoulder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 18, 2015, 11:16:03 PM
From where I'm sitting there's one boy doing the vast majority of the stirring and it's been pretty persistent for weeks now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JamesH on October 18, 2015, 11:16:43 PM
I think your quite right in most points there HS the clubs did enjoy a lot of friendships over many years but it would be very wrong to say that the hurt is confined to posters on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 11:33:17 PM
HS I think on this one we are well beyond talking.
But anyway anymore on the pair of Rossa coaches involvement in Pjs back room team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 11:55:05 PM
Your barking up the wrong tree, the names are Duffy and the Wing!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 12:32:18 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 18, 2015, 10:39:50 PM
A County manager who would perhaps Gas the Chuckle Brothers for the gutless non show in the AI U21 Semi!! Charge our lads with whatever rumour you heard in the Rock Bar, but at least our lads when joining a panel respect it. And No Dall man would stoop as low as Bradley did, thankfully!!
Also I'm well aware of the level of support we will receive next Sunday from other clubs, but at least other posters have some class and don't constantly greet on like a child. Keep your chips where they should be, on the plate, not on your shoulder.
I for one haver never condoned what Bradley alledgedley said. In fact I would condem it if it was said. I am not Bradleys or the Chuckle brothers keeper by the way, so cannot be held accountable for their actions.

It is you who has raised this matter, not me. My advice would be yo get over it, move on and let sleeping dogs lie.  This evident persecution complex of yours is overbearing, you really do need to let go.  All our clubs have had their moments of embarrassment by individual players and supporters over the years, suffice to say dont tar everyone with the same brush.  Alas, indivualism is dynamic and unique to us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 12:32:18 AM
All our clubs have had their moments of embarrassment by individual players and supporters over the years

Well you're certainly doing your bit. You've been scratching whatever your itch is for what must be months now and no sign of any let up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 07:16:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 19, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 12:32:18 AM
All our clubs have had their moments of embarrassment by individual players and supporters over the years

Well you're certainly doing your bit. You've been scratching whatever your itch is for what must be months now and no sign of any let up.
No itch at all Skull boi, but the antagonists such as JJ, Auld Stock and Hand Up and the like  certainly need challenging.  I am not here to regale them by any means. 

Well, back to the cold grind today, never easy starting back after a vacation in tropical sunnier climes.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 19, 2015, 07:52:18 AM
GENC,  i really hope you have nothing to do with any club, your are a sad sad person.

i do agree that the Bradley incident needs left alone and forgot about, St Johns dealt with it very badly, but nothing is going to gain fron carrying baggage from it.

Could we all just ignore GENC, maybe then he will crawl back into the hole where he came from.

Looking forward to Sunday, its definitely one that could go either way, our boys really need to be up for it from the start, if we come out like we did last year we will get beat out the gate again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.

I wouldnt be drawn into looking at previous results. The way this season has gone has shown that when it comes to an arm wrestle Cushendall have come out on top. There is also now that threat of goals from them which could be the difference, yes they didnt make the most of it but the threat is still there.

Sneill are a good side and have the momentum, but I would guard against writing Cushendall off just yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 19, 2015, 10:08:37 AM
What Slaughtneil are doing in both hurling and football at the moment is absolutely sensational. Ballycran are a good solid team and they took them apart. No doubt about it they will pose us a massive challenge. That being said our lads have pulled 3 games out of the fire that they looked dead and buried in. In the past 2 years in the championship we have been Loughgiel 2.5 times. We came back from 9 points down with 20 mins to go in the county final and sure we were gone against The Johnnies too and pulled that out of the fire. We had an off day against Middletown and were far from impressive. We know Slaughtneil well after 2 games last year, we know how good they are. I still think if we hit top form we'll win but anything other than top form won't do. Win, loose or draw what GENC and any other detractors in the county must remember, 2 years in a row we were better than you!! :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 19, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
Have Cushendall not been written off enough times this year   ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 19, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
lads lads, dont get confused, genc is a man well involved in gaa history. he is planning ahead for next year already, isnt that right genc!! 

he just likes to wind ppl up some times lol

i would like to wish cushendall and creggan good luck next sunday in their finals!

creggan dont get the plaudits they deserve, being a south west team where hurling is being promoted as best it can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 19, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
lads lads, dont get confused, genc is a man well involved in gaa history. he is planning ahead for next year already, isnt that right genc!! 

To be sure, to be sure Culchie, yeah ur rite as always.

he just likes to wind ppl up some times lol

i would like to wish cushendall and creggan good luck next sunday in their finals!

creggan dont get the plaudits they deserve, being a south west team where hurling is being promoted as best it can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 12:57:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.
+1

"But dont give up till it's over"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 01:03:52 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 19, 2015, 07:52:18 AM
GENC,  i really hope you have nothing to do with any club, your are a sad sad person.

i do agree that the Bradley incident needs left alone and forgot about, St Johns dealt with it very badly, but nothing is going to gain fron carrying baggage from it.

Could we all just ignore GENC, maybe then he will crawl back into the hole where he came from.

Looking forward to Sunday, its definitely one that could go either way, our boys really need to be up for it from the start, if we come out like we did last year we wiDont you be worrying urself about my club ll get beat out the gate again.
Dont u be worrying yourself about my club Motormouth, we're doing just dandy and are made of sterner stuff.
I've broad shoulders and am thick skinned also.( Nah, nah. Ne nah nah)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2015, 01:39:16 PM
60min sports in america recently covered the game of hurling. Apparently this is a big show in america and they were loving the hurling being shown there recently so they decided to cover the game. The full show is on that page for anyone who wants to watch it.

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-the-full-hurling-feature-on-60-minute-sports/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2015, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.

I wouldnt be drawn into looking at previous results. The way this season has gone has shown that when it comes to an arm wrestle Cushendall have come out on top. There is also now that threat of goals from them which could be the difference, yes they didnt make the most of it but the threat is still there.

Sneill are a good side and have the momentum, but I would guard against writing Cushendall off just yet.

Not writing the dall off, i think that Sneill will be well ready for this game. Spoke to a few of their supporters recently and all they wanted was another crack at Cdall after last year. They felt that they should of won the first game, probably should have when you look back at it again.

Hopefully i get down to this game, should be a good one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2015, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.

I wouldnt be drawn into looking at previous results. The way this season has gone has shown that when it comes to an arm wrestle Cushendall have come out on top. There is also now that threat of goals from them which could be the difference, yes they didnt make the most of it but the threat is still there.

Sneill are a good side and have the momentum, but I would guard against writing Cushendall off just yet.

Not writing the dall off, i think that Sneill will be well ready for this game. Spoke to a few of their supporters recently and all they wanted was another crack at Cdall after last year. They felt that they should of won the first game, probably should have when you look back at it again.

Hopefully i get down to this game, should be a good one

Yeah I didnt think you were writing them off DR

I just think when it comes to it there should be enough in the tank for them to pip Sneill dont imagine there will be a pile in it either road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 19, 2015, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 19, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.

I wouldnt be drawn into looking at previous results. The way this season has gone has shown that when it comes to an arm wrestle Cushendall have come out on top. There is also now that threat of goals from them which could be the difference, yes they didnt make the most of it but the threat is still there.

Sneill are a good side and have the momentum, but I would guard against writing Cushendall off just yet.

Not writing the dall off, i think that Sneill will be well ready for this game. Spoke to a few of their supporters recently and all they wanted was another crack at Cdall after last year. They felt that they should of won the first game, probably should have when you look back at it again.

Hopefully i get down to this game, should be a good one
Cushendall were 7 or 8 points up in the first match. I'd say they should have won the first match.
It'll be a very tight match. 2 good teams & hard to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2015, 03:10:50 PM
Thats true but they threw that lead away in the second half. I thought that Sneill had the game won as the momentum was with them big time. Cdall dug deep and came back to get level at the end up.

If we get as good a game as last time i will be happy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 19, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2015, 09:26:11 AM
i have to fancy Sneill this weekend for the final. They seem to have an edge about them this season that they are on a mission to win everything.

I thought Cdall were lucky to get past them last season and the year before that they gave Lgiel a good scare as well. They have good solid hurlers all over the pitch. They did a job on Ballycran whereas Cdall struggled past Middletown.

Just think this will be Sneills year.
Hope ur rite DR, I'm hoping for a nice wee lift from PPower on Monday next.  S'neil  by 2 at least. Hopefully that prediction does not make me a bad person in some eyes?   Wouldn't do to have a difference of opinion now would it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 19, 2015, 07:10:25 PM
I've no issue with you supporting Rangers is you so wish, it's the misinformed drivel you come out with that gets on everybody's wick!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 19, 2015, 09:07:55 PM
Was talking to a Cran man this evening and he was telling me their league game with loughgeil didn't go the distance, says a high profile Loughgeil player was throwing the timber about recklessly and started it off.

Obviously there's three sides to every story but surprised that wasn't mentioned on here!!!

8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2015, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 19, 2015, 09:07:55 PM
Was talking to a Cran man this evening and he was telling me their league game with loughgeil didn't go the distance, says a high profile Loughgeil player was throwing the timber about recklessly and started it off.

Obviously there's three sides to every story but surprised that wasn't mentioned on here!!!

8)
Hopefully SIE will clear things up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 19, 2015, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2015, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 19, 2015, 09:07:55 PM
Was talking to a Cran man this evening and he was telling me their league game with loughgeil didn't go the distance, says a high profile Loughgeil player was throwing the timber about recklessly and started it off.

Obviously there's three sides to every story but surprised that wasn't mentioned on here!!!

8)
Hopefully SIE will clear things up.
sorry, I know nothing about it. Wasn't at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 10:49:36 AM
Interesting:

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=245809
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Rumours of white smoke appearing over Belfast. Maybe an announcement regarding the country manager job imminent?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2015, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Rumours of white smoke appearing over Belfast. Maybe an announcement regarding the country manager job imminent?
You gonna give us a clue SIE?  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 20, 2015, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 20, 2015, 11:09:24 AM
Rumours of white smoke appearing over Belfast. Maybe an announcement regarding the country manager job imminent?
You gonna give us a clue SIE?  :D

(http://www.tvcream.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/clue.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 20, 2015, 12:05:56 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Hurling/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=245812

McNaughton could quit Antrim
20 October 2015

Cushendall and Antrim star Shane McNaughton. INPHO
Shane McNaughton's Antrim career could be over due to the increased demands being placed on intercounty players.

The 27-year-old sharpshooter, who has missed two years due to a hip injury, will represent his club Cushendall in Sunday's Ulster club hurling final against Slaughtneil. But he says he may restrict himself to club hurling in the future:

"Personally, I don't think it's possible to do the two. It's turning into a college player's game. I don't have a wife or kids but anyone who has, it must be nearly impossible for them to play intercounty hurling," the Ruairi Og man told The Irish News.

"Down south, they get the rewards for it. But, realistically, if you're playing in the Christy Ring, you're not going to go out and leave your kids five nights a week Not for that.

"I've enjoyed doing different things rather than jut giving hurling my complete attention. That's one thing I've learned during my time out injured - trying to get a bit of balance back in my life.

"Playing club hurling, you can have that balance. Playing intercounty hurling, there's no balance. It's a professional game played by amateurs. There's just too much involved now. It's getting a bit crazy, it's evolving every year. It's something I'll decide down the line; I'm just concentrating on the club right now."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
read that there in todays Irish News. seems to be a growing trend with the commitment levels expected off players these days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?

2 pitch sessions, 2 gym sessions, and a game is average?
This might happen at times - but on average? The whole year? Nonsense. Sure they even have a rule they can't train in the winter!
And five sessions a week us nothing compared to what pro-athletes do all year round anyway!

If they don't want to give the commitment asked by a manager - then they don't have to do it.
The manager can pick someone else, or management can demand less time.
The reality is that this often means the game is suited to students etc - so be it.

In terms of numbers very few people have actually been forced to quit by demands - GAA is no different to any other sport. If it's too much then don't do it.
But the reality is that most consider it something they do want - and there's a reason for that - they get more out of it than they put in. Otherwise the wouldn't do it.
I'm fed up listening to poor county players complain about all the times he trains - if he doesn't want to do it - then don't. The notion that the time compares to professional athletes is laughable - if it did then professional sports would pay less and tell their players to go get a job too!

I've heard two Antrim players complain about too much time in the media this week - from a county playing in the third level of the league and no longer even in the Liam McCarthy.
Makes me wonder what everyone else is doing eh?
Maybe trying making a newspaper article for an achievement rather than a crying match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?

2 pitch sessions, 2 gym sessions, and a game is average?
This might happen at times - but on average? The whole year? Nonsense. Sure they even have a rule they can't train in the winter!
And five sessions a week us nothing compared to what pro-athletes do all year round anyway!

If they don't want to give the commitment asked by a manager - then they don't have to do it.
The manager can pick someone else, or management can demand less time.
The reality is that this often means the game is suited to students etc - so be it.
Club & county rarely overlap now anyway.
In terms of numbers very few people have actually been forced to quit by demands - GAA is no different to any other sport. If it's too much then don't do it.
But the reality is that most consider it something they do want - and there's a reason for that - they get more out of it than they put in. Otherwise the wouldn't do it.
I'm fed up listening to poor county players complain about all the times he trains - if he doesn't want to do it - then don't. The notion that the time compares to professional athletes is laughable - if it did then professional sports would pay less and tell their players to go get a job too!

I've heard two Antrim players complain about too much time in the media this week - from a county playing in the third level of the league and no longer even in the Liam McCarthy.
Makes me wonder what everyone else is doing eh?
If they don't want to do it then quit.
Maybe trying making a newspaper article for an achievement rather than a crying match.

I think you are being totally disingenuous btdtgtt, you are obviously slightly out of touch with what it takes to play inter county hurling or football.

Top clubs would be expecting this kind of commitment from their players maybe not to that extent for the extended period, but it would not be far away.

The reality is that these boys are playing an amateur sport and want to play for the county but are finding it increasingly difficult to commit the time to do so. Bear in mind that this was a player who is not married and has no kids.

I think we should be looking for solutions rather than castigating those that want to come out and speak the truth about the situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?

2 pitch sessions, 2 gym sessions, and a game is average?
This might happen at times - but on average? The whole year? Nonsense. Sure they even have a rule they can't train in the winter!
And five sessions a week us nothing compared to what pro-athletes do all year round anyway!

If they don't want to give the commitment asked by a manager - then they don't have to do it.
The manager can pick someone else, or management can demand less time.
The reality is that this often means the game is suited to students etc - so be it.
Club & county rarely overlap now anyway.
In terms of numbers very few people have actually been forced to quit by demands - GAA is no different to any other sport. If it's too much then don't do it.
But the reality is that most consider it something they do want - and there's a reason for that - they get more out of it than they put in. Otherwise the wouldn't do it.
I'm fed up listening to poor county players complain about all the times he trains - if he doesn't want to do it - then don't. The notion that the time compares to professional athletes is laughable - if it did then professional sports would pay less and tell their players to go get a job too!

I've heard two Antrim players complain about too much time in the media this week - from a county playing in the third level of the league and no longer even in the Liam McCarthy.
Makes me wonder what everyone else is doing eh?
If they don't want to do it then quit.
Maybe trying making a newspaper article for an achievement rather than a crying match.

I think you are being totally disingenuous btdtgtt, you are obviously slightly out of touch with what it takes to play inter county hurling or football.
I know precisely the demands - in more counties than Antrim.
Top clubs would be expecting this kind of commitment from their players maybe not to that extent for the extended period, but it would not be far away.
So why aren't all these club players crying in the newspapers around Ireland?
The reality is that these boys are playing an amateur sport and want to play for the county but are finding it increasingly difficult to commit the time to do so. Bear in mind that this was a player who is not married and has no kids.
Yes - but claiming to be training like professionals - which they are not. If it's too difficult to give the time expected by the management - then don't.
I think we should be looking for solutions rather than castigating those that want to come out and speak the truth about the situation.
If the problem is that it takes up too much time - then devote less time.
If every player thinks this way - then management will have to work with what they have (in all counties).
But obviously there are plenty of players happy to give the time (in all counties). 

As an Antrim supporter to have endured the season just passed - then read articles about players saying they've invested too much time is highly ironic.
At the broader national level - players have governance over their own time. Either do it - or don't - but don't decide it's worth doing then cry to newspapers about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
So if you know what precisely the demands are can you tell us please? You think on average 5 is a bit much?

Counties everywhere are losing players. The only counties that aren't are the top ones. We are far from alone in this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 20, 2015, 02:54:11 PM
Would a lot of the top players for the top counties not be getting a lot of soft jobs on the back of their county careers making it easier to devote the time, jobs such as development coaches within their counties and bank jobs so the bank has a celeb to wheel out when they like.

I remember hearing Sean Og Ó hAilpín talking about how he'd take a few months off work before Championship, I don't think there's many jobs like that for the players in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?

2 pitch sessions, 2 gym sessions, and a game is average?
This might happen at times - but on average? The whole year? Nonsense. Sure they even have a rule they can't train in the winter!
And five sessions a week us nothing compared to what pro-athletes do all year round anyway!

If they don't want to give the commitment asked by a manager - then they don't have to do it.
The manager can pick someone else, or management can demand less time.
The reality is that this often means the game is suited to students etc - so be it.
Club & county rarely overlap now anyway.
In terms of numbers very few people have actually been forced to quit by demands - GAA is no different to any other sport. If it's too much then don't do it.
But the reality is that most consider it something they do want - and there's a reason for that - they get more out of it than they put in. Otherwise the wouldn't do it.
I'm fed up listening to poor county players complain about all the times he trains - if he doesn't want to do it - then don't. The notion that the time compares to professional athletes is laughable - if it did then professional sports would pay less and tell their players to go get a job too!

I've heard two Antrim players complain about too much time in the media this week - from a county playing in the third level of the league and no longer even in the Liam McCarthy.
Makes me wonder what everyone else is doing eh?
If they don't want to do it then quit.
Maybe trying making a newspaper article for an achievement rather than a crying match.

I think you are being totally disingenuous btdtgtt, you are obviously slightly out of touch with what it takes to play inter county hurling or football.
I know precisely the demands - in more counties than Antrim.
Top clubs would be expecting this kind of commitment from their players maybe not to that extent for the extended period, but it would not be far away.
So why aren't all these club players crying in the newspapers around Ireland?
The reality is that these boys are playing an amateur sport and want to play for the county but are finding it increasingly difficult to commit the time to do so. Bear in mind that this was a player who is not married and has no kids.
Yes - but claiming to be training like professionals - which they are not. If it's too difficult to give the time expected by the management - then don't.
I think we should be looking for solutions rather than castigating those that want to come out and speak the truth about the situation.
If the problem is that it takes up too much time - then devote less time.
If every player thinks this way - then management will have to work with what they have (in all counties).
But obviously there are plenty of players happy to give the time (in all counties). 

As an Antrim supporter to have endured the season just passed - then read articles about players saying they've invested too much time is highly ironic.
At the broader national level - players have governance over their own time. Either do it - or don't - but don't decide it's worth doing then cry to newspapers about it.

If you actually knew anything about professional sport, they are training harder and are fitter than most professional sports in these isles.
Other counties have a weight of numbers where they can afford to lose a guy and not be affected (as much as antrim) but they also have benefactors lined up to make sure if these guys are struggling that they get a handy job so that they can afford the time to give the county scene their all.
Antrim do not have this.

I think the article was pointing to the fact that it is becoming increasingly difficult to be an inter county player in Antrim with the 'increasing' demands expected. I would agree.

At broader national level they have governance over their own time? this makes no sense as all players have governance over their own time, the thing is in some counties it is more comfortable to be a county player in terms of having less demands on your time outside of playing so therefore there is less of a decision to make for the player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 20, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
So if you know what precisely the demands are can you tell us please? You think on average 5 is a bit much?

Counties everywhere are losing players. The only counties that aren't are the top ones. We are far from alone in this.

I know of some players who wouldn't let a day go by without doing something - from a gentle swim to a walk. I know of other who would periodically take a full week with no training to rest. The idea you can quantify a number of sessions and type per week as a blanket or average statement is not the case.

Some counties are losing players - always have been - always will do. Like any team and any sport.

Like I say, you either commit to it or you don t, and that's a free choice.

I'm just fed up with county players that are better looked after than ever - complaining about something which they choose to do of their own free will. And if they choose to do it - it's obviously because they get more out of it to make it worthwhile.

If they don't want to do it - fine!
But without the crying in newspapers please.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2015, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
I think they all need to dry their eyes. :-X :'(

btdtgtt

I think you need to spend a week in their shoes to fully understand where he is coming from. While he may not be the best example there is a serious point here.

Average week of two gym sessions, two pitch sessions and a game. Add to that time to travel too and from these sessions and maybe into the south for a game, then any time spent doing recovery sessions on their own time.

Try fitting a family life/ job/ social life etc all around this and you start to see a picture that does not fit.

There is only so much further that this can go IMO
Paying doesn't resolve the issue unless they are paid enough to not work and do the training during the day. How much do they get paid? What if the going rate is less than you are earning whilst working? Do county players only play county and not club? What is the answer?

2 pitch sessions, 2 gym sessions, and a game is average?
This might happen at times - but on average? The whole year? Nonsense. Sure they even have a rule they can't train in the winter!
And five sessions a week us nothing compared to what pro-athletes do all year round anyway!

If they don't want to give the commitment asked by a manager - then they don't have to do it.
The manager can pick someone else, or management can demand less time.
The reality is that this often means the game is suited to students etc - so be it.
Club & county rarely overlap now anyway.
In terms of numbers very few people have actually been forced to quit by demands - GAA is no different to any other sport. If it's too much then don't do it.
But the reality is that most consider it something they do want - and there's a reason for that - they get more out of it than they put in. Otherwise the wouldn't do it.
I'm fed up listening to poor county players complain about all the times he trains - if he doesn't want to do it - then don't. The notion that the time compares to professional athletes is laughable - if it did then professional sports would pay less and tell their players to go get a job too!

I've heard two Antrim players complain about too much time in the media this week - from a county playing in the third level of the league and no longer even in the Liam McCarthy.
Makes me wonder what everyone else is doing eh?
If they don't want to do it then quit.
Maybe trying making a newspaper article for an achievement rather than a crying match.

I think you are being totally disingenuous btdtgtt, you are obviously slightly out of touch with what it takes to play inter county hurling or football.
I know precisely the demands - in more counties than Antrim.
Top clubs would be expecting this kind of commitment from their players maybe not to that extent for the extended period, but it would not be far away.
So why aren't all these club players crying in the newspapers around Ireland?
The reality is that these boys are playing an amateur sport and want to play for the county but are finding it increasingly difficult to commit the time to do so. Bear in mind that this was a player who is not married and has no kids.
Yes - but claiming to be training like professionals - which they are not. If it's too difficult to give the time expected by the management - then don't.
I think we should be looking for solutions rather than castigating those that want to come out and speak the truth about the situation.
If the problem is that it takes up too much time - then devote less time.
If every player thinks this way - then management will have to work with what they have (in all counties).
But obviously there are plenty of players happy to give the time (in all counties). 

As an Antrim supporter to have endured the season just passed - then read articles about players saying they've invested too much time is highly ironic.
At the broader national level - players have governance over their own time. Either do it - or don't - but don't decide it's worth doing then cry to newspapers about it.

If you actually knew anything about professional sport, they are training harder and are fitter than most professional sports in these isles.
Really? "Most" professional sports don't train as hard as the GAA?
County players have never been better looked after - and you might not realise what other sports actually do.
Other counties have a weight of numbers where they can afford to lose a guy and not be affected (as much as antrim) but they also have benefactors lined up to make sure if these guys are struggling that they get a handy job so that they can afford the time to give the county scene their all.
Antrim do not have this.
And? What's your point?
Our county players still have their own free will over the time they give (or not).
Mind you, we're not even competing with those counties.

I think the article was pointing to the fact that it is becoming increasingly difficult to be an inter county player in Antrim with the 'increasing' demands expected. I would agree.

At broader national level they have governance over their own time? this makes no sense as all players have governance over their own time, the thing is in some counties it is more comfortable to be a county player in terms of having less demands on your time outside of playing so therefore there is less of a decision to make for the player.
It means time consideration is not confined to Antrim, and your point still different to mine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
I'm starting to wonder - after all the fuss about a certain player committing or not-committing to Antrim - maybe if he'd just said "it's too much time" he would have got an easier ride?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
I'm starting to wonder - after all the fuss about a certain player committing or not-committing to Antrim - maybe if he'd just said "it's too much time" he would have got an easier ride?

I am starting to wonder why you are digging out a player who has committed to the Antrim cause and has paid the price with injuries over the last few years. He is merely pointing out the blatantly obvious which you are choosing to ignore, Antrim has a small enough pool of players to begin with and we can ill afford to be doing with some of those top players for any reason.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2015, 03:54:40 PM
theres a fine line between saying ' i cant commit to the county this year' and 'i cant be arsed playing for the county this year' esp in Antrim.

Usually most guys cant be bothered to play anymore. Success can make it easier to commit to a heavy schedule for a lot of players. When your getting beat all the time the enthusiasm generally wilts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
I'm starting to wonder - after all the fuss about a certain player committing or not-committing to Antrim - maybe if he'd just said "it's too much time" he would have got an easier ride?

I am starting to wonder why you are digging out a player who has committed to the Antrim cause and has paid the price with injuries over the last few years. He is merely pointing out the blatantly obvious which you are choosing to ignore, Antrim has a small enough pool of players to begin with and we can ill afford to be doing with some of those top players for any reason.

Aha!
Now I see your real point!

I'm not "digging out" any player! Honestly!
It's certainly not a point just aimed at Shane - I have the same distain for the whole attitude of a number of county players across Ireland who seem to think they are doing us a favour by committing their time.

Like I say to keep it simple - if they (any and all players) don't want to or can't give the time - then don't. Simple. And no need for newspaper articles trying to compare to professional athletes.

Which brings me to my next point - again not a personal one.
The GPA are one body who have pursued this notion that inter county players are somehow comparable professional athletes by training load.
It's a nonsense.
Firstly - a sport going professional depends on its revenue - nothing to do with training load. For example I know of amateur boxers and swimmers who's training load far surpasses GAA and for 365 days a year - I don't read them in the papers crying about it (not personal to Shane or Neil McAuley I include some in the south also!).

The fact is that if playing and sacrificing time to the county wasn't beneficial in overall terms - people wouldn't do it. But they do. And they do because they are well looked after for it or enjoy it - in truth it's both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 20, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 20, 2015, 03:54:40 PM
theres a fine line between saying ' i cant commit to the county this year' and 'i cant be arsed playing for the county this year' esp in Antrim.

Usually most guys cant be bothered to play anymore. Success can make it easier to commit to a heavy schedule for a lot of players. When your getting beat all the time the enthusiasm generally wilts

Fully agree. And where that line is drawn is of a players free will. If they can't commit they choose not to - they are not some sort of victims.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on October 20, 2015, 07:24:57 PM
 line between saying ' i cant commit...' and 'i cant be arsed...'

And where that line is drawn is of a players free will...


+1, fully agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on October 20, 2015, 10:12:08 PM
And now I'm on it; only 5 years behind Armagh. Scratch the cynics...

Armagh men discussing:
"Taking far too long these are the simple facts of the case.
Agree with Wolfie it is a joke, especially with any other County you talk to regarding their own Co ground development and also plans for Centres of Excellence, we are a laughing stock."
sliothar, Jul 7, 2010 #6

P.S. Don't forget the swimmers for comparison, best one yet.
P.S.S Ref. boxers, if you don't...
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 22, 2015, 09:46:51 AM
Some weird, abnoxious, cynical and ill informed individuals posting here.

Has to be said though, I suppose we are all weird, abnoxious, cynical and ill informed individuals, the spice of life eh?

Nigh, I wonder if C. Do**el*y will be bringing along a back room team with him in his quest for CC? You would have to believe a team of strong individuals is needed going forward, would be a difficult task for one lone individual, dont you think?  I for one would hope CD takes up the reigns but feel he will need a few trusty lieutenants?

Time to clear the decks and make a fresh positive start. Happy days.

The Upper Falls SF Mafia may well attempt to scupper things though, ya just couldn't trust them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 22, 2015, 03:39:27 PM
 http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=245898&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

McKillop: Slaughtneil should have beaten us last year
22 October 2015


Cushendall manager John McKillop believes motivation won't be an issue for Slaughtneil in Sunday's Ulster club SHC final.

McKillop reckons the prospect of gaining revenge for last year's semi-final replay defeat to the Antrim champions and becoming the first Derry club to win an Ulster senior title will drive them to greater heights.

"Slaughtneil probably should've won the first day out, and I'm sure they probably think they should've won as well," he said in the Irish News.

"They'll want to be the first Derry club to win Ulster. They played Dungiven (in the Derry SHC semi-final) and beat them by a point and since after they've got stronger and stronger."

Cushendall won't be lacking in motivation themselves following their surprise loss to Portaferry in last year's provincial decider.

"When I came in for the job, they said they wanted to get back and make up for last year, so hopefully, touch wood, it goes right this time around."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 22, 2015, 04:07:33 PM
Loughgiel hoping for a little bit of neighbourly love
on October 22, 2015 4:00 pm /

Loughgiel Shamrocks captain Una McNaughton, pictured with her Slaughtneil counterpart Louise Dougan and Ulster Camogie President Kathleen Woods, ahead of this weekend's Ulster Senior Camogie club final

Loughgiel Shamrocks find themselves in the very unusual position of hoping for a little bit of help from their Antrim colleagues Cushendall at the Athletic Grounds this Sunday.

With Slaughtneil aiming for a camogie and hurling double, Loughgiel's camogs are set to be outnumbered on the terraces, and will be hoping that the Cushendall hurling support arrives early and decide to throw their lot behind the Shamrocks' title tilt, knowing they will do the same in return for the hurling final.

But Loughgiel captain Una McNaughton insists that she and her colleagues are focusing solely on on-field matters ahead of this Sunday's provincial showdown.

"It's not really something we've thought about to be honest, we've just been concentrating on the match itself. I'm not surprised that the fixtures have been made this way, and if it was Loughgiel playing in the hurling then we'd have been looking for exactly the same thing. It was the sensible thing to do, the fair and the logical thing to do.

"We always get a good crowd out from Loughgiel, and we'll need them more than ever this Sunday. In the meantime, we'll just be doing everything we can to try to make sure we get it right on the field.

http://gaeliclife.com/2015/10/loughgiel-hoping-for-a-little-bit-of-neighbourly-love/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 23, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
MoChara I'd be disappointed if 90% of the Ruairi Og Supporters weren't supporting Loughgiel Camogs on Sunday, they are Antrim Champions and local so why wouldn't we get behind them, good luck to the team on Sunday, and here's hoping for an Antrim Double.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 09:08:25 AM
the camogie scene is poor in ulster. theres only 2 teams in the senior championship, no antrim representitive in the ulster and our intermediate champions compete in the junior championship. The antrim junior champions Cargan played in the ulster shield and won it at a canter.

Doesnt bode well for going over the border with that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 23, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
MoChara I'd be disappointed if 90% of the Ruairi Og Supporters weren't supporting Loughgiel Camogs on Sunday, they are Antrim Champions and local so why wouldn't we get behind them, good luck to the team on Sunday, and here's hoping for an Antrim Double.

90% of the dall supporters won't make it through the gate to see the game I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 23, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
MoChara I'd be disappointed if 90% of the Ruairi Og Supporters weren't supporting Loughgiel Camogs on Sunday, they are Antrim Champions and local so why wouldn't we get behind them, good luck to the team on Sunday, and here's hoping for an Antrim Double.

90% of the dall supporters won't make it through the gate to see the game I'd say.

OK well the 90% of the 10% that do will be cheering them on with great gusto  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
Mageean Cup final tonight up at the dub. St Louis vs St Marys at 7:30pm

Plenty of talent on show from both teams. Hope the tight pitch doesn't make it a ruckfest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
Looks to be a lot of Dunloy guys on that St Louis team skull? Them and a Loughgiel McNaughton  which you don't see too often.

I wondered has st louis won it before but seems they won it in the late 80s.

St Marys have a large pick though so might be a tough enough ask but would be nice to see a win going outside st marys, maghera or cross and passion for a change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 23, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 23, 2015, 09:08:25 AM
the camogie scene is poor in ulster. theres only 2 teams in the senior championship, no antrim representitive in the ulster and our intermediate champions compete in the junior championship. The antrim junior champions Cargan played in the ulster shield and won it at a canter.

Doesnt bode well for going over the border with that level.

Attempts should be made at every opportunity to stall the growth of ladies football. More clubs taking it up because it is low in skill and you can get up to speed pretty quickly on it.

We need Antrim and Derry especially to keep pushing ahead with camogie. Ladies football is pure dung
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
Looks to be a lot of Dunloy guys on that St Louis team skull? Them and a Loughgiel McNaughton  which you don't see too often.

I wondered has st louis won it before but seems they won it in the late 80s.

St Marys have a large pick though so might be a tough enough ask but would be nice to see a win going outside st marys, maghera or cross and passion for a change.

Theres Ryan Elliott, Conor Kinsela, Keelan Molly, Conal Cunning, Ciaran Elliott, Seaan Elliott from Dunloy on the team. Also Ryan McGarry who hurls for Dunloy but is a ballymena man


88 was the last time they won it (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12108961_541698215981599_4229257430889321797_n.jpg?oh=53afe58678f1879c8c987e2a4a7e342d&oe=56BACE36)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 11:38:56 AM
Ahh.. the oul Mikasa glove on a hurling pitch. Was never a good look  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2015, 12:01:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
Looks to be a lot of Dunloy guys on that St Louis team skull? Them and a Loughgiel McNaughton  which you don't see too often.

I wondered has st louis won it before but seems they won it in the late 80s.

St Marys have a large pick though so might be a tough enough ask but would be nice to see a win going outside st marys, maghera or cross and passion for a change.
Loughgiel or McNaughton?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 11:38:56 AM
Ahh.. the oul Mikasa glove on a hurling pitch. Was never a good look  :)

Yeah i rem that look as well. Never understood it at all ;D

I see they all look to have standard issue red helmets with a face guard as well. Our school made us wear them horrible basket cases!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 23, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
Well seeing the two Gillans with the standard Loughgiel red helmets, not sure face guards were on the go back then though, that'd be mid to late 80's.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on October 23, 2015, 12:57:04 PM
Did Cushendall object to the final being in Owenbeg?
Seems mad taking Slaughtneil, Cushendall & Loughgiel to bloody Armagh!
There wont be any less Slaughtneil people at it, but there will definitely be less people at it as a whole!
Cant see many neutrals from Derry or North Antrim making the trip to the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on October 23, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
Mageean Cup final tonight up at the dub. St Louis vs St Marys at 7:30pm

Plenty of talent on show from both teams. Hope the tight pitch doesn't make it a ruckfest

Just in case you head up and waste your journey. The Mageean final was moved a couple of days ago. It is now in Ballymena at 4.30pm today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 23, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on October 23, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
Mageean Cup final tonight up at the dub. St Louis vs St Marys at 7:30pm

Plenty of talent on show from both teams. Hope the tight pitch doesn't make it a ruckfest

Just in case you head up and waste your journey. The Mageean final was moved a couple of days ago. It is now in Ballymena at 4.30pm today.

i thought just the forresters (i think thats it) is the one that was switched, QUB didnt want two matches on at the Dub AFAIK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whitelines on October 23, 2015, 01:27:38 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on October 23, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
Mageean Cup final tonight up at the dub. St Louis vs St Marys at 7:30pm

Plenty of talent on show from both teams. Hope the tight pitch doesn't make it a ruckfest

Just in case you head up and waste your journey. The Mageean final was moved a couple of days ago. It is now in Ballymena at 4.30pm today.



***McNamee was moved to Ballymena at 4:30. Mageean remains in the DUB
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 23, 2015, 01:28:57 PM
2nd year final in Ballymena at 4.30

Mageean final still at the Dub.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 23, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
Well seeing the two Gillans with the standard Loughgiel red helmets, not sure face guards were on the go back then though, that'd be mid to late 80's.

Brian was a decent juvenile hurler.. Wristy hurler, played on the county juveniles when I played... Still about Loughgiel SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
I think he's a shamrock in exile

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ade12db96cd30f9a0ef4167d72252616/tumblr_nlsy5w9dvj1u5ysmwo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 23, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
Well seeing the two Gillans with the standard Loughgiel red helmets, not sure face guards were on the go back then though, that'd be mid to late 80's.

i was playing under 12 in 88 and the club had a batch of yellow helmets with face guards on them, you wernt allowed on the pitch without one on to play.

Its the reason i wore a face guard my entire life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on October 23, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Megaman on October 23, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on October 23, 2015, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
Mageean Cup final tonight up at the dub. St Louis vs St Marys at 7:30pm

Plenty of talent on show from both teams. Hope the tight pitch doesn't make it a ruckfest

Just in case you head up and waste your journey. The Mageean final was moved a couple of days ago. It is now in Ballymena at 4.30pm today.

i thought just the forresters (i think thats it) is the one that was switched, QUB didnt want two matches on at the Dub AFAIK

Apologies, didn't take time reading the amended fixture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on October 23, 2015, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 23, 2015, 11:10:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
Looks to be a lot of Dunloy guys on that St Louis team skull? Them and a Loughgiel McNaughton  which you don't see too often.

I wondered has st louis won it before but seems they won it in the late 80s.

St Marys have a large pick though so might be a tough enough ask but would be nice to see a win going outside st marys, maghera or cross and passion for a change.

Is that Ciaran Kearney of Stormont fame in the middle back row

Theres Ryan Elliott, Conor Kinsela, Keelan Molly, Conal Cunning, Ciaran Elliott, Seaan Elliott from Dunloy on the team. Also Ryan McGarry who hurls for Dunloy but is a ballymena man


88 was the last time they won it (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12108961_541698215981599_4229257430889321797_n.jpg?oh=53afe58678f1879c8c987e2a4a7e342d&oe=56BACE36)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 04:06:46 PM
I think it is Ciaran Kearney... I don't know who the guy is mind you but I read it on facebook!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 04:06:46 PM
I think it is Ciaran Kearney... I don't know who the guy is mind you but I read it on facebook!

What guy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
I don't know what Ciaran Kearney does in stormont but I do think it is him in that st louis team according to people on facebook...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 23, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Handy win for St Louis tonight. Could have been a few more in it. St Marys are on the young side so should be strong next year

2-15 to 1-9 I think it finished
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 25, 2015, 01:13:52 AM
Good luck to the dall men later today,  I cant see more than one score in it either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: general_lee on October 25, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
For anyone interested the Armagh county board are streaming both finals live.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
For anyone interested the Armagh county board are streaming both finals live.

If you're willing to pay the £3 fee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 03:29:07 PM
S'NEILL by 2 at HT. 1-7 to 0-8.

3rd Part of my bet with PPower in good order. Just have to wait on full time score and outcome?

St. Louis ☆
Loughgiel Camogs ☆
S'NEILL to be ahead at HT. ☆

Cushendall 1-13 Slaughtneil 2-10

FT: 1-18 to 3-12. Draw.

S'neill let it get away again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pub Bore on October 25, 2015, 04:02:55 PM
Extra time being played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 04:14:44 PM
3-15 to 1-19 Sneill after 1st period of extra time.

3-16 to 1-22. Still very tight.

Hard Luck Sneill, 1 point difference but robbed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Well done Cushendall...  resilient team who never give up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: general_lee on October 25, 2015, 04:50:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 25, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
For anyone interested the Armagh county board are streaming both finals live.

If you're willing to pay the £3 fee
Worth all 300 pennies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 25, 2015, 06:25:44 PM
Some game by all accounts, hard fought result for the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Went down to the fall match today. A good win for them but their defence looked suspect a fair few times. S'neill got their goals very easy. Will need to work on that.

All the same a good hard fought victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 25, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
Getevennotcross, get it right up ye!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 25, 2015, 07:11:02 PM
Be craughwell or sarsfield of galway next for the dall then if I'm right,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 25, 2015, 07:33:50 PM
Lol geteven you're some man alright.robbed??? the only person robbed today my friend was your good self by paddy power!!!!  that 3times now we have played slaughtneil in championship & still to lose to them. i read a lot of the newspaper articles & tv coverage this week with a mix of amusement & bemusement. people seemed to have forgotton that we won against them last year as well. anyhow not bad for a team that supposedly should have lost to the spice boys, loughguile, ballycastle & slaughtneil.  felt a bit for sneil at the end (they are a very good outfit) but to the victor the spoils & anyone that watched that game be in no doubt our boys have guts, determination, skill & as ive said before balls, great big massive balls!!!!   so geteven im gonna sit back now over the next couple of days & enjoy your unique brand of comedy. please tell me that your sidekick leftback04 will be joining you on the stage???   be more original now as just to tell us that we'll get hammered by the galway champs just wont cut the mustard. i know you can come up with something much better. up the ruairis!!!!! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
Quote from: auld stock on October 25, 2015, 07:33:50 PM
Lol geteven you're some man alright.robbed??? the only person robbed today my friend was your good self by paddy power!!!!  that 3times now we have played slaughtneil in championship & still to lose to them. i read a lot of the newspaper articles & tv coverage this week with a mix of amusement & bemusement. people seemed to have forgotton that we won against them last year as well. anyhow not bad for a team that supposedly should have lost to the spice boys, loughguile, ballycastle & slaughtneil.  felt a bit for sneil at the end (they are a very good outfit) but to the victor the spoils & anyone that watched that game be in no doubt our boys have guts, determination, skill & as ive said before balls, great big massive balls!!!!   so geteven im gonna sit back now over the next couple of days & enjoy your unique brand of comedy. please tell me that your sidekick leftback04 will be joining you on the stage???   be more original now as just to tell us that we'll get hammered by the galway champs just wont cut the mustard. i know you can come up with something much better. up the ruairis!!!!! :D
ach AS, howya doing aul hand. Fair play to the Dall today, but dont you just know I had a few more bases covered with PP, so I'll be collecting tomorrow anyway. Now will I be using the winnings to book Paddys trip to Croke next March '16, I fear not, I already have the semis and final covered also with PP.  Sadly the Dall dont figure in mh permuatation, so no Tommy Moore coming North sorry to say.

Thought the ref offered frees to Dall a lot easier than Sneill, but thats only my opinion and view of things.  I don't generally criticise referees, they have a difficult job, but though yer man was poor.  Not easy for S'neill being a dual code club, something you Dall men would know nothing about.

Well anyway, plenty of time for the Dall lard ars*s/salad swervers to shed a few Lbs at Xmas.  That JJ boi is a malevolent type of individual dont you reckon?  Think I will ignore him, I hear he's a bit of a loose cannon and runs off at the mouth.

Either way, winning Ulster is only a gateway to the ultimate hurling prize for a club, a long way to go yet.  The ultimate AI champions accolade is not won, therefore I remain unimpressed at present.

Still a long way to go for Dall, but opportunity does provide possibilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
One twisted hoor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 25, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
Hahaha getevennotcross. You keep the bile coming, we'll keep winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
One twisted hoor
Not at all boi, just rather candid which I appreciate does not sit well with some. You actually may gain a little respect in doing so yourself, you should try it?   I have a fertile yet broad mind and dont mince my words which I am sure you have observed.  Dosnae make you a bad or twisted individual though, just forthrite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 25, 2015, 10:41:40 PM
Can I watch the game again if I have paid the £3?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
So lets put things in context here. Dall just about got over the insignificant hurdle today.  A point margin is a lot different than beating the oposition off the park, which if I am correct was what the Dall rabble repeatedly spouted.  No odds to me really, I just dont think the Dall are the great team they believe themselves to be.

Winning Ulster serves up the Dall an opportunity only, lets see how they  measure up com Feb. '16; I for one an not convinced they are a great side, winning Antrim and Ulster is no great yardstick or benchmark at this stage. Sterner questions will be asked later!

And another thing, dont be fooled by those cretins who are saying " great win and solid performance by the Dall" and wishing the Dall all the best.  Believe me, dont trust any of them, they are two faced, forked tongued and deceitful hoors who will relish in the Dall's failure.

Better the devil ya know, springs to mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 25, 2015, 10:41:40 PM
Can I watch the game again if I have paid the £3?
The result will still be the same fella.  R u a Sneil fan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 25, 2015, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 10:56:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 25, 2015, 10:41:40 PM
Can I watch the game again if I have paid the £3?
The result will still be the same fella.  R u a Sneil fan?
Cheers for that insightful comment.

Nope, far from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
I see the wheels are in motion

https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433)

Change is needed. We all hope a shake up has the positive effect that's needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 25, 2015, 11:19:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
I see the wheels are in motion

https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433)

Change is needed. We all hope a shake up has the positive effect that's needed.
Yesterdays news. Sure didna tell ya the coup was on its way!

Who was it said just recently that Co*ly Do*nel*y had thrown his hat in the ring for CC. Other than Co*l* ( good St. Johns man) a few other clowns making bids for other significant positions. I cant help but thinking though there is a major influence by NA and money men orchestrating this coup. There will be tears and bruised egos before its all over. Bring it on, but keep them Dall men out of it :).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Apparently so on October 26, 2015, 02:25:36 AM
Fair fucks to Creggan, a brilliant rise from them the last few years. A very young team there as well so they will competing for years to come. Hope they take the all ireland now, they have the fitness to back up the skill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 03:40:45 AM
Quote from: Apparently so on October 26, 2015, 02:25:36 AM
Fair f**ks to Creggan, a brilliant rise from them the last few years. A very young team there as well so they will competing for years to come. Hope they take the all ireland now, they have the fitness to back up the skill
+1  Absolutely, well done Creggan and a dual code club at that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
only seeing that creggan result there this morning, well done to them.

Maybe they should ditch the football and concentrate on the hurling! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2015, 09:25:08 AM
Did I see somewhere that Conor McCann got a bad injury? Could be mistaken but just saw a photo floating round twitter with something on it...

Great achievement for creggan. Be interesting to see what they do in the AI. Coleraine won junior too so the Ballela fairytale unfortunately didn't happen. I think Coleraine have a few derry county boys and a lot of those footballers would have been underage derry players so probably nto really a surprise.

Great to see cushendall win. They seem to be very good in the close games. Not sure they currently have the players for an AI challenge but hopefully I'm wrong. They play Galway champions I think. I don't recall cushendall playing connacht champions over the years. Always seemed to be munster or leinster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
I see the wheels are in motion

https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433)

Change is needed. We all hope a shake up has the positive effect that's needed.


Still can't shift the secretary even if you wanted to. Ulster Council will still be pulling the strings wrt Casement.

Can't say I know a lot about your one, but who decides if they are doing a good job or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2015, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
I see the wheels are in motion

https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433)

Change is needed. We all hope a shake up has the positive effect that's needed.


Still can't shift the secretary even if you wanted to. Ulster Council will still be pulling the strings wrt Casement.

Can't say I know a lot about your one, but who decides if they are doing a good job or not?

This is half the problem with these appointments, where is the accountability for these jobs for life?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on October 26, 2015, 09:56:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 26, 2015, 09:25:08 AM
Did I see somewhere that Conor McCann got a bad injury? Could be mistaken but just saw a photo floating round twitter with something on it...

Great achievement for creggan. Be interesting to see what they do in the AI. Coleraine won junior too so the Ballela fairytale unfortunately didn't happen. I think Coleraine have a few derry county boys and a lot of those footballers would have been underage derry players so probably nto really a surprise.

Great to see cushendall win. They seem to be very good in the close games. Not sure they currently have the players for an AI challenge but hopefully I'm wrong. They play Galway champions I think. I don't recall cushendall playing connacht champions over the years. Always seemed to be munster or leinster.

I believe it was his cousin Oran who got injured in a collision with Conor.

Really proud of the club, we've come a long way from the early 90's when the hurling started up.

One thing that I am most proud of is the football / hurling dual club issues that that I hear happens in other clubs have had has never really been an issue with Creggan. It was always drummed into us that the Creggan club was the be all and end all, not hurling or football. So we wanted to be successful in both codes, even if all there was to win in hurling was friendlies at the start

So if you consider 90's, the football club was starting to get organized for a push up the ranks (winning Div 2 in 94 and intermediate in 97ish, 2000ish ), but the senior management at the time always accommodated players playing hurling, (initially in a series of friendlies across Ulster, subsequently in the N Antrim junior league and then in Div 4 Antrim). So there has always been a spirit of co-operation.

Now in saying that, I would love to see the club push on a lift a senior football title in the next year or two!!!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
Congrats to Creggan & Loughgiel Camogs yesterday. Delighted to see them win.

As for the senior final, the people of Cushendall know that their boys are no world beaters and do struggle at times, but my god they have a serious set on them  & never say die attitude. That is a great thing to have.

P.S. Slaughtneil  - Great team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 10:34:08 AM
First off, well fecking done, great hurling with a great attitude when playing.... No dirt in your game which cuts out needless frees... with a bit of luck another Croke park appearance... The Galway champions have never won at intermediate level so nothing to fear heading into that game.... You'll also join the ranks of teams playing senior hurling and football championship another first for the club .... This will also spur on the younger generation in picking up the Caman


As for the dual problem, issues may arrive at senior level if both playing in div 1... Big effort with training and managing injuries and having county players .... Brilliant to be in the position to have those "problems".

Didn't see the game yesterday but watched the Burt game, if Creggan lack something its urgency, few games I've refereed they take a while to get going, and miss a few free ones.... If this is worked on they will have a great chance to get to Croke Park and give someone a shock in Senior next year. Well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 26, 2015, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 10:34:08 AM
First off, well fecking done, great hurling with a great attitude when playing.... No dirt in your game which cuts out needless frees... with a bit of luck another Croke park appearance... The Galway champions have never won at intermediate level so nothing to fear heading into that game.... You'll also join the ranks of teams playing senior hurling and football championship another first for the club .... This will also spur on the younger generation in picking up the Caman


As for the dual problem, issues may arrive at senior level if both playing in div 1... Big effort with training and managing injuries and having county players .... Brilliant to be in the position to have those "problems".

Didn't see the game yesterday but watched the Burt game, if Creggan lack something its urgency, few games I've refereed they take a while to get going, and miss a few free ones.... If this is worked on they will have a great chance to get to Croke Park and give someone a shock in Senior next year. Well done

Maybe this lack of urgency is reflected in that they just dont do panic, all very even tempered and composed. They know like the Dall how to win championship games. Hope big Odhran not too bad, great player and a Creggan mainstay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2015, 11:51:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.


Did Gort not get beat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.
Gort do look to be a good team but they have no chance of winning the All Ireland. They got beat yesterday.

As I said, everyone in Cushendall knows this team has faults. But they have massive heart. And deserve a lot more credit than they are getting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: Last Man on October 26, 2015, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 10:34:08 AM
First off, well fecking done, great hurling with a great attitude when playing.... No dirt in your game which cuts out needless frees... with a bit of luck another Croke park appearance... The Galway champions have never won at intermediate level so nothing to fear heading into that game.... You'll also join the ranks of teams playing senior hurling and football championship another first for the club .... This will also spur on the younger generation in picking up the Caman


As for the dual problem, issues may arrive at senior level if both playing in div 1... Big effort with training and managing injuries and having county players .... Brilliant to be in the position to have those "problems".

Didn't see the game yesterday but watched the Burt game, if Creggan lack something its urgency, few games I've refereed they take a while to get going, and miss a few free ones.... If this is worked on they will have a great chance to get to Croke Park and give someone a shock in Senior next year. Well done

Maybe this lack of urgency is reflected in that they just dont do panic, all very even tempered and composed. They know like the Dall how to win championship games. Hope big Odhran not too bad, great player and a Creggan mainstay.

Possibly Last man but would just be wary of getting caught out and leaving too much to do... Everyone has a view point on this I suppose and Creggan have done it their way and its worked
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 26, 2015, 12:09:58 PM
Get Even Dual Club!! The Johnnies are hardly breaking much self in either code!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 26, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
*delf!! Still a little fragile from last night😄
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2015, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.
Gort do look to be a good team but they have no chance of winning the All Ireland. They got beat yesterday.

As I said, everyone in Cushendall knows this team has faults. But they have massive heart. And deserve a lot more credit than they are getting.
yes they do, but you'll not get it on here, history proves that!!!  Use could go on and win the All Ireland and there will still be clowns on here saying different.  Enjoy the win and the build up to the All Ireland and forget about looking credit from a discussion board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2015, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.
Gort do look to be a good team but they have no chance of winning the All Ireland. They got beat yesterday.

As I said, everyone in Cushendall knows this team has faults. But they have massive heart. And deserve a lot more credit than they are getting.

Ah christ im not wakened today at all! Sarsfields v Craughwell in the galway final.

Im not doubting their heart its their ability to defend is worrying. Sneill got their goals pretty easy from bad defending is my point. A better team than Sneill wouldnt of lost the advantage they got.

But fair play to the dall they rode their luck and got the result and thats all that matters at the moment. Im sure they will give it a hell of a go in Feb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2015, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 11:53:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 11:45:07 AM
Lets be honest always coming from behind isnt a great way to be. You will come up against a team now at this stage who if they get in front wont let a lead drop.

Whilst i think cdall are a good team they still leak scores to easily. The 3 goals that Sneill got all came from poor defending which should of been dealt with. They also shot some poor wides from scorable positions.

Gort look to be a good team and Cdall will need to improve if they are holding any hope of reaching the final.
Gort do look to be a good team but they have no chance of winning the All Ireland. They got beat yesterday.

As I said, everyone in Cushendall knows this team has faults. But they have massive heart. And deserve a lot more credit than they are getting.
yes they do, but you'll not get it on here, history proves that!!!  Use could go on and win the All Ireland and there will still be clowns on here saying different.  Enjoy the win and the build up to the All Ireland and forget about looking credit from a discussion board.
True..as yous boys know.
It's been a great one to win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 26, 2015, 01:00:49 PM
I thought the referee was only remembering rules as he went along, poor performance from him, I thought he was bad last year as well in the C'Dall Slaughtneill semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2015, 01:10:13 PM
I thought mc manus as super as he was yesterday bought a few frees. He won't get away with it at the all Ireland stage.  Something that has crept into his game.  And that's not knocking him. He was very good.   Also I think Shane may need to move inside when fully fit.  Cdall for me maybe lack that tricky forward that's required at the stage use are now at.  Christy was very good in spells.  But for a semi final you'll need a forward light and tricky on the feet.  I can see Cdall beating either Galway side. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 26, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
*delf!! Still a little fragile from last night😄
enjoy Hand Up, sure to end in tears down the road.

We have experienced barren years, days of winning always come to an end and thats the reality for all clubs.  Just wondering how long the Dall will ride their luck?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.



Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.



Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.
A Tyrone boi named Clarke, cant recall his christian name. Thought he gave Dall some easy frees. NMcM in particular.  Not that I have anything against Neill of course. A good lad considering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
This is getting tedious in the extreme  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
Didnt rate the ref yday at all. Thought he was poor. Blew up frees for over carrying and then let obvious over carry away. Was very fussy throughout. the yellow card seem to disappear when it came to the Sneill players at times.

Thought he was poor for both teams. Also didnt think Sneill were dirty at all, it was tough and physical throughout and fairly contested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 26, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 26, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
Didnt rate the ref yday at all. Thought he was poor. Blew up frees for over carrying and then let obvious over carry away. Was very fussy throughout. the yellow card seem to disappear when it came to the Sneill players at times.

Thought he was poor for both teams. Also didnt think Sneill were dirty at all, it was tough and physical throughout and fairly contested.

also stood out for me! thought the ref was harsh on cushendall overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 26, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
This is getting tedious in the extreme  ::)
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It's people like that who are bringing the county even further into the s**t with that nonsense that's spouted. The quicker he/she goes back under the rock that they came from the better.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 26, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.



Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.
A Tyrone boi named Clarke, cant recall his christian name. Thought he gave Dall some easy frees. NMcM in particular.  Not that I have anything against Neill of course. A good lad considering.

The ref from tyrone might have givben the dall an easy time but James Clarke from Cavan was the man in black yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2015, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 26, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
This is getting tedious in the extreme  ::)

Agreed. Hard to believe this person could be an adult at this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 26, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.
Apologies, though he was from Tyrone. Either way Tyrone or Cavan, still thought he gave the Dall any easy ride and was poor overall. But, its only an opinion of course.


Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.
A Tyrone boi named Clarke, cant recall his christian name. Thought he gave Dall some easy frees. NMcM in particular.  Not that I have anything against Neill of course. A good lad considering.

The ref from tyrone might have givben the dall an easy time but James Clarke from Cavan was the man in black yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 26, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
This is getting tedious in the extreme  ::)
Just pitching the postings at audience capacity and intellect NAG, just so you NA bois may comprehend.

I must get back to work, enough regaling you bois today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 26, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
Can nobody kick this clampet off the board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 26, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.



Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.

The fundamental problem with the ref on Sunday is that he does not get matches of that intensity on a regular basis and so he acts like a rabbit in the headlights and with that has a low level of confidence to let the teams get on with it. so by being over fussy he hopes to remain in control. I have heard it said that he referees hurling as if it was a football match (probably correct as he would do more football than hurling and would be hard to switch).
Secondly the UC have always used for Senior Club matches in both codes referees that are on the National Referees Panel and as such with an Antrim and a Derry club involved this excluded Hasson Elliott Cunning McAuley Nash leaving Clarke Sweeney and McAndrew. Although O'Connor from Donegal was used in a previous round it was a departure from the norm( he must have previous form somewhere else)
How the UC address this problem needs to be developed further. Some would point to the Ulster League has a vehicle to develop referees but this is not possible as everyone is aware teams in the senior championships in their respective counties bar Armagh do no compete in it. So back to square 1     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
Pleased for Smoky, a really decent spud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 26, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 26, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: getevennotcross on October 26, 2015, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on October 26, 2015, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: cushendall on October 26, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
Dr our defending is usually second to none, the backs had an off day and we still came out with the win, I agree poor defending yesterday cost us the goals! However we playing the better hurling throughout sneil where incredibly dirty, sean MC afee and Aidan where hammered around that pitch, pulled down every time they got the ball,
Slaughtneil weren't dirty. A few bad challenges on both sides not helped by a poor referee.
Glad you agree with me Two Hands, in my view he was woeful.



Who was the ref?


On Slaughneil, it's no surprise that they're up with the best club hurling teams in Ulster, they've won 2 or 3 Ulster club minor titles whose teams also play in the Antrim leagues and go to any underage blitz and more often than not they'll have a team at it. Serious effort being put in for a good few years.

The fundamental problem with the ref on Sunday is that he does not get matches of that intensity on a regular basis and so he acts like a rabbit in the headlights and with that has a low level of confidence to let the teams get on with it. so by being over fussy he hopes to remain in control. I have heard it said that he referees hurling as if it was a football match (probably correct as he would do more football than hurling and would be hard to switch).
Secondly the UC have always used for Senior Club matches in both codes referees that are on the National Referees Panel and as such with an Antrim and a Derry club involved this excluded Hasson Elliott Cunning McAuley Nash leaving Clarke Sweeney and McAndrew. Although O'Connor from Donegal was used in a previous round it was a departure from the norm( he must have previous form somewhere else)
How the UC address this problem needs to be developed further. Some would point to the Ulster League has a vehicle to develop referees but this is not possible as everyone is aware teams in the senior championships in their respective counties bar Armagh do no compete in it. So back to square 1     

Look this is what it is.... James is a decent lad and be it as it may is from Cavan ,  has refereed mid Ulster games and championship games in Ulster last few years.... We couldn't have the better Antrim or Derry referees so that leaves a Down referee who's done regular Antrim div one games who's able to referee Ulster  games....

The intensity generally doesn't change on whether there is a foul or not, possibly just means you need to be on top from the start and talk your fouls through.... Been watching the rugby and its something we need to take on board as referees, be clear in the call for a foul or reason for carrying on with play... Harder to do with hurling as it's quicker but I've tried it last few games... I'm still a cnut 😊  but I'm at least trying to communicate better..

Never please everyone but players probably went into the game with less respect for James because he's from Cavan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 26, 2015, 09:55:21 PM
I agree MR2 that it is possible the teams possibly did not give him the respect that he was due and that he is  a decent lad who like any referee goes out every time to do his best. Although I mentioned intensity of the game it would have been better put as the speed of the game and also the greater experience of the players operating at that level were able to dictate to him what way the game was played/refereed.
Until Down and Armagh are able to provide a referee that meets the criteria for officiating at this level as per UC guidelines there needs to be a way to assist lads like James Clarke be that the stronger counties include them in their referee panels providing they were willing to do so and give them the opportunity to get more higher standard games on a regular basis.
I would contend that everybody wins and that it gives referee administrators an option of appointing a completely neutral referee where the referee has no link to a club in that division and the outcome of the match is not perceived be as beneficial to the refs own club

I am not putting refs from weaker counties down only pointing out the weaknesses in the system that currently exist

I agree that there is a certain degree of snobbery among the hurling fraternity not only in Ulster but nationally as well regarding where in this land you reside which gives rise to preconceived ideas on your ability to play or officiate
 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 26, 2015, 10:49:56 PM
Dickie Murphy was taken up (wrongly) to referee the Mageean Final. If we don't have the right ref for an Antrim Champions v Derry Champions Ulster Club Final shouldn't we take the right ref up for the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 26, 2015, 10:49:56 PM
Dickie Murphy was taken up (wrongly) to referee the Mageean Final. If we don't have the right ref for an Antrim Champions v Derry Champions Ulster Club Final shouldn't we take the right ref up for the game?

Only if it goes both ways! How else are referee's meant to progress from supposed weaker counties.... Westmeath have one of the best referees on Kelly... Not a "known" hurling county..

I doubt overall that the referee made a huge difference...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 26, 2015, 11:30:50 PM
In the balance of things probably no difference
Everyone is entitled to their opinion as to the performances of players and officials as posters on here have and will continue to offer but a partisan opinion in my book does not carry much credibility with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2015, 11:44:20 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 26, 2015, 11:30:50 PM
In the balance of things probably no difference
Everyone is entitled to their opinion as to the performances of players and officials as posters on here have and will continue to offer but a partisan opinion in my book does not carry much credibility with it

From me??  I've for many years been with different views on referees... As a player, manager , supporter and now as a referee... I can totally see where everyone comes from on these issues, but unless people from the playing fraternity in so called better counties get involved and put their efforts into things like refereeing then we cant really complain... Believe it or not, there are some inept referees in Cork, Kilkenny and Galway....would you have preferred Brian Galvin yesterday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 27, 2015, 05:51:32 AM
Westmeath isn't a top tier hurling county granted but they ain't far away. Cavan haven't even fielded the past few years. I wonder how many club hurling matches Sunday's ref has done this year? Certainly none in Cavan anywhere near the speed or intensity of Cdall V Slaughtneil. It can work both ways. We can bring a ref in if needed but if a Cavan man wants to be a hurling ref he can be given regular quality games in other counties too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 27, 2015, 09:21:41 AM
If this lad Clarke is serious about refereeing then he needs to be refereeing at a higher standard week in, week out and no disrespect to NHL Div3 or Div4 is a lower standard than the top club hurling games in Ulster.

My issue is that the Ulster council deemed him good enough as he was the last man standing when the Antrim and Derry referees were ruled out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
I'm never usually critical of refs in a match. I felt on sunday he was too fussy on certain things and was inconsistent in the over carrying rule.

Thats me looking at it as a neutral mind you and my dad was sitting with me and even he was getting annoyed at him. i never hear him moan about a ref at any match i go to with him.

Im sure hes a great lad, that still doesn't mean hes immune from having a bad day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 09:26:52 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 27, 2015, 09:21:41 AM
If this lad Clarke is serious about refereeing then he needs to be refereeing at a higher standard week in, week out and no disrespect to NHL Div3 or Div4 is a lower standard than the top club hurling games in Ulster.

My issue is that the Ulster council deemed him good enough as he was the last man standing when the Antrim and Derry referees were ruled out.

Quote from: Jesusjones on October 27, 2015, 05:51:32 AM
Westmeath isn't a top tier hurling county granted but they ain't far away. Cavan haven't even fielded the past few years. I wonder how many club hurling matches Sunday's ref has done this year? Certainly none in Cavan anywhere near the speed or intensity of Cdall V Slaughtneil. It can work both ways. We can bring a ref in if needed but if a Cavan man wants to be a hurling ref he can be given regular quality games in other counties too.

Yeah that is the issue JC. The total lack of understanding, of what it takes to do a good job in these top games. This is not a game for giving a ref a run out because he is from a lower ranked county.

Can you see the same scenario being played out in an Ulster club football final? Can you see Crossmaglen or any of the other top tier clubs, standing by and letting it happen, actually they would have no need too because it just simply would not happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer

Ive yet to see one of these MR2

Yes we need to promote out Ulster refs but you dont do this through our show piece final.

Neither club would have had a problem with one of the top refs in the province being given this game. It shows them that they are being taken seriously and being given the best Ulster referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer

Ive yet to see one of these MR2

Yes we need to promote out Ulster refs but you dont do this through our show piece final.

Neither club would have had a problem with one of the top refs in the province being given this game. It shows them that they are being taken seriously and being given the best Ulster referee.

Well its an option.... But lets not be too fussy on the man himself, he's worked hard at his trade and been given the role, it can only make him better with getting higher profile games, a poster pointed out earlier he's football referee, that's not the case, he'd get the odd football game, referee's mainly hurling...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer

Ive yet to see one of these MR2

Yes we need to promote out Ulster refs but you dont do this through our show piece final.

Neither club would have had a problem with one of the top refs in the province being given this game. It shows them that they are being taken seriously and being given the best Ulster referee.

Well its an option.... But lets not be too fussy on the man himself, he's worked hard at his trade and been given the role, it can only make him better with getting higher profile games, a poster pointed out earlier he's football referee, that's not the case, he'd get the odd football game, referee's mainly hurling...

I for one wasnt giving out about him personally, I just think that there should be a recognised pathway for lower tier county referees to follow to get to the biggest day in Ulster club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer

Ive yet to see one of these MR2

Yes we need to promote out Ulster refs but you dont do this through our show piece final.

Neither club would have had a problem with one of the top refs in the province being given this game. It shows them that they are being taken seriously and being given the best Ulster referee.

Well its an option.... But lets not be too fussy on the man himself, he's worked hard at his trade and been given the role, it can only make him better with getting higher profile games, a poster pointed out earlier he's football referee, that's not the case, he'd get the odd football game, referee's mainly hurling...

I for one wasnt giving out about him personally, I just think that there should be a recognised pathway for lower tier county referees to follow to get to the biggest day in Ulster club hurling.

I agree, I'm behind selection based on how you perform throughout the yeah based on feedback from assessors and from various managers with the leagues... Does that happen? I'm not convinced on that score to be honest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 27, 2015, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'm sure James is covering games in mid Ulster during the year and not just Cavan... Which would be intermediate level at best and junior b at worst.. The Ulster council are promoting referee's in Ulster ....

If we start giving referees top games from down South what message does that give to  referee's with ambition from Ulster?? Munster won't be on the phone to Ulster to swap referees for provincial games...

Would either of the teams on Sunday been miffed if Hasson or Cunning was in charge? Here are the options fave these lads more games in Antrim, Derry and Down ... Plus there is no guarantee that Barry Kelly would have a stormer

Ive yet to see one of these MR2

Yes we need to promote out Ulster refs but you dont do this through our show piece final.

Neither club would have had a problem with one of the top refs in the province being given this game. It shows them that they are being taken seriously and being given the best Ulster referee.

Well its an option.... But lets not be too fussy on the man himself, he's worked hard at his trade and been given the role, it can only make him better with getting higher profile games, a poster pointed out earlier he's football referee, that's not the case, he'd get the odd football game, referee's mainly hurling...

I for one wasnt giving out about him personally, I just think that there should be a recognised pathway for lower tier county referees to follow to get to the biggest day in Ulster club hurling.

Agreed, and if there isn't a suitable referee at the prerequisite standard then go outside the province.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Fully agree with going outside a province - any province - it's so short sighted to think otherwise.
What does the provincial line in a map matter for a referee?

And on a side note - I'm no fan of the assessor reports.
Sure it's just another opinion. Who's to says it is any better or any less slanted?

There's no perfect system so let's not pretend that the current methods are best practice either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Fully agree with going outside a province - any province - it's so short sighted to think otherwise.
What does the provincial line in a map matter for a referee?

And on a side note - I'm no fan of the assessor reports.
Sure it's just another opinion. Who's to says it is any better or any less slanted?

There's no perfect system so let's not pretend that the current methods are best practice either.

It does matter because referees are club men and county men too.

They are volunteers the same as the players and if we have capable referees (which we do) then use them.
Going outside the province for a referee undermines every ref in the province, this was plainly evident from the recent schools game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 03:27:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 27, 2015, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Fully agree with going outside a province - any province - it's so short sighted to think otherwise.
What does the provincial line in a map matter for a referee?

And on a side note - I'm no fan of the assessor reports.
Sure it's just another opinion. Who's to says it is any better or any less slanted?

There's no perfect system so let's not pretend that the current methods are best practice either.

It does matter because referees are club men and county men too.

They are volunteers the same as the players and if we have capable referees (which we do) then use them.
Going outside the province for a referee undermines every ref in the province, this was plainly evident from the recent schools game.

I'm not sure about the school's game - but if a ref has to be from outside a county participating in ca club game - aren't we therefore questioning their biased? Surely we'd never suggest an official ref can be biased ;)

On the initial debate:
Does going outside a club therefore undermine every club member as the manager?

Does going outside the county undermine every coach within?

I'm not necessarily arguing either side - what I'm questioning is the when we decide borders are definitive lines on maps - and when we toss that away for the best candidate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Fully agree with going outside a province - any province - it's so short sighted to think otherwise.
What does the provincial line in a map matter for a referee?

And on a side note - I'm no fan of the assessor reports.
Sure it's just another opinion. Who's to says it is any better or any less slanted?

There's no perfect system so let's not pretend that the current methods are best practice either.

They are detailed enough with plenty detail... In reflection reading the write ups I can totally see where they are coming from... To not having them would mean no means of ensuring the referee knows what he's doing and if he's doing it right is he consistent?  My only bug bear would be is it used to decide who gets games, and its not, names are sent to county executive and they decide on who gets the job.... I don't know how many games the county executive go to during the league but I doubt not a lot collectively....

That ain't sour grapes by me either, I've been in England a lot and missed stuff at the start... And like I said before, a div 4 game is as "interesting" to referee as a Div one game  ;D

You can usually tell who'll get the big games each year, all good whistle men in my opinion and all did great jobs too....

Anyways bit of a wait now, was that the last league games this weekend??  Understrength Johnnies went down to Ballycran on Sunday, bit of a dead rubber for both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
MR2 the detail and how they are used is all based on the assumption that the assessor is right.
He may not be. And that undermines the process.
That's all my point was.
Agree with the rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 27, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
MR2 the detail and how they are used is all based on the assumption that the assessor is right.
He may not be. And that undermines the process.
That's all my point was.
Agree with the rest.

Tommy McIntyre has done my games, and to be fair with him and his judgement I'd say he was spot on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 01:26:12 AM
Tommy McIntyre = Best ref ever to come out of Antrim in my opinion.
But I know of some guys assessing that quite frankly the less detail on that sheet the better!
That said I've no idea of a really suitable process to assign refs so I'll leave it there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2015, 09:53:53 AM
Deal with Paul O'Neill a fair few times with the camogie myself and ive found him to be a very good ref. Nice man to work with on the pitch and off it.

Cant have Owen Elliott the way he talks to people on the pitch. he has a bad way with speaking to people, not a bad ref but has no people skills. Eamonn Hasson is as good as you will get out there.

MR2 isnt bad himself :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 28, 2015, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2015, 09:53:53 AM
Deal with Paul O'Neill a fair few times with the camogie myself and ive found him to be a very good ref. Nice man to work with on the pitch and off it.

Cant have Owen Elliott the way he talks to people on the pitch. he has a bad way with speaking to people, not a bad ref but has no people skills. Eamonn Hasson is as good as you will get out there.

MR2 isnt bad himself :D


I agree DR, the way Owen Elliot speaks to players & officials is really bad at times. Eamonn Hasson is a gentleman, I also find Jackie Carson a very good ref that allows the game to flow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 28, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
Cork hurling legend tipped for key role alongside potential new Antrim boss

Justin McCarthy will work alongside PJ O'Mullan if he's appointed as new Saffrons supremo.


Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers. Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers.

A LEADING ANTRIM GAA official has confirmed this morning that Cork hurling legend Justin McCarthy is in line for a role on a potential new management team in the county.

If PJ O'Mullan is successful in his quest to succeed Kevin Ryan as Antrim supremo, he will be enlisting the services of McCarthy as consultant.
McCarthy famously guided Waterford to a breakthrough Munster SHC title win in 2002 and he was also in charge of Limerick for an ill-fated spell in later years.

Source: INPHO
Under McCarthy's guidance, the Shannonsiders suffered a crushing 2009 All-Ireland semi-final defeat against Tipperary before he was faced with a player mutiny in the following season.
But McCarthy is fondly remembered in Cork as a former All-Ireland, Munster and National League medallist.
Over the years, McCarthy has forged close links in Antrim, helping out with club and intercounty teams in coaching capacities.

Antrim PRO Sean Fleming confirmed to The42 this morning that McCarthy's name has been linked with the PJ O'Mullan ticket.
Former Loughgiel Shamrocks manager O'Mullan is the hot tip to step into the role vacated by Waterford native Kevin Ryan.
Candidates will be interviewed by former Allstar Ciarán Barr and two members of the county board executive, Fleming explained.

PJ O'Mullan is tipped to become the next Antrim senior hurling manager.

"We're hoping to have it done and dusted within ten days," said Fleming.
That will ensure a new man is in place before Antrim begin pre-season training in mid-November.
"Justin's role with PJ would be as a consultant, it wouldn't be a full-time role," Fleming added.
"He wouldn't be up and down at every training session.
"He's definitely linked to PJ," Fleming said.
"To be fair to Justin, he would know a lot of people in Antrim, from club and county level.
"He's always had close links here and is very highly thought of.
"There are others still in the hunt, however, and it would be unfair to say who's favourite or otherwise," Fleming stressed.

http://www.the42.ie/justin-mccarthy-antrim-hurling-2411243-Oct2015/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2015, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 28, 2015, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2015, 09:53:53 AM
Deal with Paul O'Neill a fair few times with the camogie myself and ive found him to be a very good ref. Nice man to work with on the pitch and off it.

Cant have Owen Elliott the way he talks to people on the pitch. he has a bad way with speaking to people, not a bad ref but has no people skills. Eamonn Hasson is as good as you will get out there.

MR2 isnt bad himself :D


I agree DR, the way Owen Elliot speaks to players & officials is really bad at times. Eamonn Hasson is a gentleman, I also find Jackie Carson a very good ref that allows the game to flow.

Yeah Jackie is turning into a good ref. He has the respect of the players on the pitch it seems and lets be honest are you going to argue with the big man  ;D

Ive seen skinny ref a few times and i have to be honest i think hes pretty good also. He lets the game go and talks to the players throughout the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on October 28, 2015, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 28, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
Cork hurling legend tipped for key role alongside potential new Antrim boss

Justin McCarthy will work alongside PJ O'Mullan if he's appointed as new Saffrons supremo.


Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers. Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers.

A LEADING ANTRIM GAA official has confirmed this morning that Cork hurling legend Justin McCarthy is in line for a role on a potential new management team in the county.

If PJ O'Mullan is successful in his quest to succeed Kevin Ryan as Antrim supremo, he will be enlisting the services of McCarthy as consultant.
McCarthy famously guided Waterford to a breakthrough Munster SHC title win in 2002 and he was also in charge of Limerick for an ill-fated spell in later years.

Source: INPHO
Under McCarthy's guidance, the Shannonsiders suffered a crushing 2009 All-Ireland semi-final defeat against Tipperary before he was faced with a player mutiny in the following season.
But McCarthy is fondly remembered in Cork as a former All-Ireland, Munster and National League medallist.
Over the years, McCarthy has forged close links in Antrim, helping out with club and intercounty teams in coaching capacities.

Antrim PRO Sean Fleming confirmed to The42 this morning that McCarthy's name has been linked with the PJ O'Mullan ticket.
Former Loughgiel Shamrocks manager O'Mullan is the hot tip to step into the role vacated by Waterford native Kevin Ryan.
Candidates will be interviewed by former Allstar Ciarán Barr and two members of the county board executive, Fleming explained.

PJ O'Mullan is tipped to become the next Antrim senior hurling manager.

"We're hoping to have it done and dusted within ten days," said Fleming.
That will ensure a new man is in place before Antrim begin pre-season training in mid-November.
"Justin's role with PJ would be as a consultant, it wouldn't be a full-time role," Fleming added.
"He wouldn't be up and down at every training session.
"He's definitely linked to PJ," Fleming said.
"To be fair to Justin, he would know a lot of people in Antrim, from club and county level.
"He's always had close links here and is very highly thought of.
"There are others still in the hunt, however, and it would be unfair to say who's favourite or otherwise," Fleming stressed.

http://www.the42.ie/justin-mccarthy-antrim-hurling-2411243-Oct2015/


I would say PJ has not set this up but instead the CB are moulding their own team together and not even waiting for interview process to complete. if it was done properly they would not be able to comment on Justin as his role would only be outlined at Interview by PJ or at least this is how previous appointments were conducted at interview.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 28, 2015, 04:14:11 PM
MR2 why always make things about the referee, u must like ur ego massaged lol only kidding!
the problem lies where there are not enough high profile matches in ulster to develop hurling refs.
one high profile game a year will not develop them unfortunately.

have any/many of you had a read at the "saffron vision"

they want to demolish divisional boards & make all leagues all county, to help county teams & dev squads!
i am all for antrim county teams doing better but surely our clubs wont vote for this as the divisionals boards are essential to antrim gaa.
like him or loathe him but our leagues havent ran as well as long as i can mine since the wee man took control. things have improved vastly.
u21 county hurling seems to be a problem this last lot of years if it was ironed out, would be grand. u dont need a sledge to crack a nut though.

some of the men that have put their name forward under saffron vision, have been there before and couldnt/didnt change it then, why would they now?! i am sceptical as to the reasoning behind this group and have heard different stories, one regarding money/business contracts down the line, but hey i dont know the whole story.

anyone care to give their opinion?!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 04:43:23 PM
Delighted to see some movement and an Antrim vision however:
I'd prefer individuals to run of their own right - rather than as one group.
Connotations of potentially replacing one cartel with another.
Any precedent for this?
Time will allow us to judge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 06:15:36 PM
I still feel they should have ran alone and on their own merit.
Not sure I know of a precedent.
What does it say to clubs who might vote for some of the old and some of the new?
Take us all or none?
If the old and new grouping are split in the returns how would they work together?
In running as one group their proposed new regime will all be judged together also - that might not suit any of them in the long run.
Yes I'm delighted to see some change - but I'm not sure this is the best way to go about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on October 28, 2015, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 04:43:23 PM
Delighted to see some movement and an Antrim vision however:
I'd prefer individuals to run of their own right - rather than as one group.
Connotations of potentially replacing one cartel with another.
Any precedent for this?
Time will allow us to judge.

Is this 'Antrim Vision' available to view anywhere?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on October 28, 2015, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on October 28, 2015, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 04:43:23 PM
Delighted to see some movement and an Antrim vision however:
I'd prefer individuals to run of their own right - rather than as one group.
Connotations of potentially replacing one cartel with another.
Any precedent for this?
Time will allow us to judge.

Is this 'Antrim Vision' available to view anywhere?

Quote from: theskull1 on October 25, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
I see the wheels are in motion

https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/658387689117458433)

Change is needed. We all hope a shake up has the positive effect that's needed.
Thanks, interesting enough reading kinda says a lot without saying much really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
No argument on the last point.

But the group approach will mean any single wrong step will see them all tarnished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 28, 2015, 07:53:11 PM


have any/many of you had a read at the "saffron vision"

"they want to demolish divisional boards & make all leagues all county, to help county teams & dev squads"

That's not the case and the letter sent to all clubs does not say that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 28, 2015, 08:10:21 PM

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Be prepared for much more of this in the coming weeks. They lay it on in buckets. Although, you should know.
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I do know that, but it's a pity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 08:13:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2015, 07:47:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
No argument on the last point.

But the group approach will mean any single wrong step will see them all tarnished.
I don't really follow what you mean.

If one bloke becomes position X in a committe and f**ks up - then he's tarnished.

If a whole load of blokes take positions en masse - and X f**ks up - then rightly or wrongly the whole load may well be tarnished.
"Ah sure that whole crowd are a joke then" is at least as likely as "well let's hope the rest of that crowd aren't as bad as that mr X"

Rightly or wrongly - running as a group rather than individuals lends itself to that.

But all said and done - I'm happy for the options and prospects of change.

It will be interesting to see if the current position holders fight for their offices or relinquish them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 28, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
If one person fcuks up, the whole committee fcuks up. That's the way it should be. Nobody should be doing anything off their own bat. A committee is there to "yay" or "nay" everything.

No argument there - reinforced when they stage a coup to put it one way!

I quite like the idea of "strorming the casement Bastille" :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 28, 2015, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 28, 2015, 10:05:41 PM
Can't believe the Knights of St Columbanus haven't been mentioned yet!!
will you leave that clown be where he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 28, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
So it doesn't say the antrim vision will manage all leagues hurling and football of all ages?! To benefit county teams and dev squads?!

How can they do that if divisional boards run underage leagues?!

brendan I wonder why u would go back to the trough again after being there before!?

Say if only half the vision gets voted in, it will be blurred lines for a lot of ppl!

Hardstation will ur club, not the social club now, ur gaa club vote against one of its own in preference of the vision?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 28, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
My point is as was said earlier u can vote for one of the candidates put forward whether part of vision or not. Only certain clubs will be put in that position.

In my opinion some of vision will be elected and some won't.

Some seem to think it's all or nothing it's not. Ideally the vision want it to be all but gaa democracy doesn't work like that. It's a clever move by terry as they cover 2 of the 3 divisional boards clubs in the vision. Majority rule and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2015, 12:27:26 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 28, 2015, 04:14:11 PM
MR2 why always make things about the referee, u must like ur ego massaged lol only kidding!
the problem lies where there are not enough high profile matches in ulster to develop hurling refs.
one high profile game a year will not develop them unfortunately.


I'm just giving that perspective.... I'm just as easy giving view from player/manager and supporters, plenty here doing that😉

As for ego, watch me ref, I'm the least ego ref you'll find  :o

Agreed and have already said similar to your point on developing referee's...

On another note, when will all this other shit kick off?? Agm soon? Dates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2015, 05:07:22 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on October 28, 2015, 03:32:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 28, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
Cork hurling legend tipped for key role alongside potential new Antrim boss

Justin McCarthy will work alongside PJ O'Mullan if he's appointed as new Saffrons supremo.


Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers. Justin McCarthy is in line to work with the Antrim hurlers.

A LEADING ANTRIM GAA official has confirmed this morning that Cork hurling legend Justin McCarthy is in line for a role on a potential new management team in the county.

If PJ O'Mullan is successful in his quest to succeed Kevin Ryan as Antrim supremo, he will be enlisting the services of McCarthy as consultant.
McCarthy famously guided Waterford to a breakthrough Munster SHC title win in 2002 and he was also in charge of Limerick for an ill-fated spell in later years.

Source: INPHO
Under McCarthy's guidance, the Shannonsiders suffered a crushing 2009 All-Ireland semi-final defeat against Tipperary before he was faced with a player mutiny in the following season.
But McCarthy is fondly remembered in Cork as a former All-Ireland, Munster and National League medallist.
Over the years, McCarthy has forged close links in Antrim, helping out with club and intercounty teams in coaching capacities.

Antrim PRO Sean Fleming confirmed to The42 this morning that McCarthy's name has been linked with the PJ O'Mullan ticket.
Former Loughgiel Shamrocks manager O'Mullan is the hot tip to step into the role vacated by Waterford native Kevin Ryan.
Candidates will be interviewed by former Allstar Ciarán Barr and two members of the county board executive, Fleming explained.

PJ O'Mullan is tipped to become the next Antrim senior hurling manager.

"We're hoping to have it done and dusted within ten days," said Fleming.
That will ensure a new man is in place before Antrim begin pre-season training in mid-November.
"Justin's role with PJ would be as a consultant, it wouldn't be a full-time role," Fleming added.
"He wouldn't be up and down at every training session.
"He's definitely linked to PJ," Fleming said.
"To be fair to Justin, he would know a lot of people in Antrim, from club and county level.
"He's always had close links here and is very highly thought of.
"There are others still in the hunt, however, and it would be unfair to say who's favourite or otherwise," Fleming stressed.

http://www.the42.ie/justin-mccarthy-antrim-hurling-2411243-Oct2015/


I would say PJ has not set this up but instead the CB are moulding their own team together and not even waiting for interview process to complete. if it was done properly they would not be able to comment on Justin as his role would only be outlined at Interview by PJ or at least this is how previous appointments were conducted at interview.
PJ set it up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 29, 2015, 08:53:14 AM
Antrim convention 2016 needs a thread of its own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 29, 2015, 09:17:32 AM
agreed. Best to start a full thread on its on dedicated to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: brendanbelfast on October 29, 2015, 02:02:58 PM


"brendan I wonder why u would go back to the trough again after being there before!?"

Trough? That says a lot. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 29, 2015, 02:42:59 PM
like a politician on the nolan show, answers a question with a question!

cant believe an educated guy like urself doesnt know what a trough is?!

u know what i am getting at.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 29, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on October 29, 2015, 02:42:59 PM
like a politician on the nolan show, answers a question with a question!

cant believe an educated guy like urself doesnt know what a trough is?!

u know what i am getting at.


How dare you make a spelling mistake...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 29, 2015, 08:59:38 PM
Or it could just have been a figure of speech.

Who was that guilty of propaganda you say HS?!

:) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 29, 2015, 11:31:22 PM
It's a figure of speech Ffs!

Catch ur self on as they say!

Trough, well, dine at top table, been there done that, what ever way u want to put it!

Why is everything taken as a negative comment!

Or r u not allowed to ask such question of the visionaries!

I hope I don't get left a voicemail now lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2015, 09:28:12 AM
Lads if it's ok can we transfer the discussion of upcoming election of officers and Saffron Vision  pros and cons to a new thread set up to specifically for this purpose??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on October 30, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Set one up bannside!

Kelly from St malachys is in for pro also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 30, 2015, 10:10:53 AM
It's been set up by MR2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.

We'll be competitive enough for a couple more years yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.

We'll be competitive enough for a couple more years yet

I meant with the top tier teams rather than at Division2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 10:33:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.

We'll be competitive enough for a couple more years yet

I meant with the top tier teams rather than at Division2.

Within 1B? or in div 1 A? we'll only see them come championship I'd imagine so I doubt it... We'll be good for 40 minutes  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on November 03, 2015, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 10:33:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.

We'll be competitive enough for a couple more years yet

I meant with the top tier teams rather than at Division2.

Within 1B? or in div 1 A? we'll only see them come championship I'd imagine so I doubt it... We'll be good for 40 minutes  ;D

If that is the case, would St Galls not be better entering the intermediate if that is their level? They would have a good chance of winning it and getting an all Ireland run going. Would bring a good feeling to the hurling in your club and give it a boost like Rossa got last season. Success breeds success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on November 03, 2015, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 10:33:47 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2015, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 02, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 02, 2015, 04:02:58 PM
I presume the leagues are more or less done and dusted at this stage?

Loughgeil Div1 in the bag with something to spare, St Galls and Clooney down to Div1B, with the Sars, Armoy, St Pauls and Cushendul moving down to Div2 providing Creggan can pick up another point from their 4 games in hand!

Not sure about Div1, but the lack of competitive hurling worked against us this year. Hopefully Div1B will be more competitive with Clooney and St Galls in the mix.

The fall of the Sars has been a bit of a surprise, what is happening there?

Bit of a crisis at sarsfields with not being able to field and talk of transfers.
Mr2 might enlighten us but I'm not optimistic about galls continued competitiveness with their better players getting on a bit.

We'll be competitive enough for a couple more years yet

I meant with the top tier teams rather than at Division2.

Within 1B? or in div 1 A? we'll only see them come championship I'd imagine so I doubt it... We'll be good for 40 minutes  ;D

If that is the case, would St Galls not be better entering the intermediate if that is their level? They would have a good chance of winning it and getting an all Ireland run going. Would bring a good feeling to the hurling in your club and give it a boost like Rossa got last season. Success breeds success.

We are a step up from intermediate at the minute but certainly it is an option... Having won Ulster and got to Croke park before at that level it was a great feeling within the club, only to be beaten handy in the final and the footballers winning the senior title 2 weeks later FFS, upstaged again  ;D  I jest of course... The run has given Rossa a boost so who knows.. I'd rather we tried to improve on the game against Loughgiel in the summer and build some fitness levels up to the required standard...I'm not sure on the management front this year could be a change which would be interesting if the person I believe is interested
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 11:53:53 AM
MR2 I mean competitive with the top teams in the county - I'd like to think Galls will be looking to win Division 2.

In terms of their championship I think the players themselves will know best.
Do they want to commit to playing senior - if they do then they must commit to all that goes with it. (football or not).
Or do they want to go for Intermediate and try for the All-Ireland series.
Only insiders will know which is the bets fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 03, 2015, 11:56:15 AM
I was at the Lgiel v St Galls match and i was really impressed with them in the first half. Played with an intensity that Lgiel couldnt match. Second half they couldnt keep it up and Lgiel had the subs to bring on and change it up or they would of been in bother.

Galls have the hurlers, they just need a few more to make a bigger squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our county manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 03, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???

Can you enlighten us as to who these people are? We need names!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
most of the proposed back room team have pretty good CVS. There also is a change to the original team. But I wouldn't be surprised if PJ walked away from it anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

That may be your issue with it, the quality of the 'proposed' back room team would be my biggest fear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

That may be your issue with it, the quality of the 'proposed' back room team would be my biggest fear.

Do they have a CV that has won at the highest levels?? Both county and club??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
These are the fellas he had as his back room team.  Gavan duffy, Paul graham, Justin mccarthy and Damien fox. Paul Talty strength and conditioning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Is that the Cushendun, Rossa and now Gort na Mona Paul Graham?
yes.  That would have been him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

That may be your issue with it, the quality of the 'proposed' back room team would be my biggest fear.
well who would you have liked to have been approached.   Maybe give Mc Manus the player manager roll. Seems to be working ok for him and the dall this year  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Didn't know he was still involved in hurling. Nice fella though.
I'd have known the brother better to be honest. Never had many run ins with Paul.  A very accomplished hurler in his day.  I'd have thought if he was willing to put his name forward and get involved he'd have been worth listening to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Is that the Cushendun, Rossa and now Gort na Mona Paul Graham?

Gort?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???


*edit

The cork hurler is Ger Manley.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 03, 2015, 08:16:21 PM
Well Matty Lennon isn't going to get past the first phase.

Is getting boys from the bottom end of the country really the answer?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2015, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.


+1
PJ couldn't do any worse that Kevin Ryan or what was there before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 04, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 05:42:33 PM
Is that the Cushendun, Rossa and now Gort na Mona Paul Graham?

Gort?
Yes.

I didn't know he was up there? In what role and since when?
I thought his connection was that Ciaran Barr and got him through an involvement with Kilmacud Crokes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on November 04, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

Who is this "clown" and how is he holding up the show?
Whats his reasoning for not allowing Ciaran Barr to go forward as a candidate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 09:45:04 AM
Quote from: doodaa on November 04, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

Who is this "clown" and how is he holding up the show?
Whats his reasoning for not allowing Ciaran Barr to go forward as a candidate?

Really  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.
It's not referring to Joe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.
no names were named by me.  And the roll of the eyes means what???   Am sure anyone who knows who's on our county board knows who the "wee rat" is.   Tell me am wrong nag?!?   Everyone was happy that Barr was getting to pick the manager.  When he does he's under minded.  And yes.  He was!!!  Fact.  Joke of a county set up all round. Absolute shambles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 04, 2015, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 03, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Three other candidates have emerged for the Antrim job.

Jim Greene ( Waterford. Kevin Ryan's buddy  ::))

Matty Lennon from Armagh

And an ex Cork hurler.  ???
its an absolute f**king joke the way this has been handled.  A man was approached and asked to take it. He said when club hurling was done for the year he'd be interested.  Now it's over and it's quite clear the little rat doesn't want to give him it now.  Love him or hate him from loughgiel or rival club. Pj O Mullan deserves his shot at this job, the way the county board and one individual is dealing with this is f**king laughable!!!!    Go and give it to some so called name and fire another 50K plus at him.it will come down to the blame game again when he flops.  This county needs an in house man that knows club hurling inside out to take the county forward.
Is there anything in this county that can just run smoothly? Why is everything a total balls up?

We are an unbelievable mess. Its actually laughable.

See the 'little rat' mentioned above, I presume that is reference to J. Edwards? If so, what has he done at a playing/coaching level in Hurling? That's an honest question, i'm trying to figure out what credentials he has to be able to give opinions on who hurling management should be.

Again I would seriously guard against this getting into this personal level of attack.

If you dont know the facts of the matter or cant read into them through some of the posts then dont be jumping in and naming people.
no names were named by me.  And the roll of the eyes means what???   Am sure anyone who knows who's on our county board knows who the "wee rat" is.   Tell me am wrong nag?!?   Everyone was happy that Barr was getting to pick the manager.  When he does he's under minded.  And yes.  He was!!!  Fact.  Joke of a county set up all round. Absolute shambles.

SG never said you did if you read up you will see which post I was referring too on both occasions I have commented.

I also never said that anyone did or didnt undermine CB. I also have not commented on the process I raised my concern over one issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.
who would you like to be there then?   Now remember it has to be someone who is willing to put in a lot of time and possibly get very little thanks for it.  The men mentioned above have all committed to the cause. And all feel they could bring something to the table.  Surely a bit of a different approach and going down this route can't hurt.  Or will we go and throw a heep more  money at the free state coach and expect miracles?! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 04, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
Nah hes been too busy lately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 04, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 07:49:28 PM
Kevin Ryan named Ulster manager for the up and coming inter provincial series.  Wonder who picks that?
Neil McManus.
;D
Nah hes been too busy lately
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 04, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.

Sambo and woody? Highly respected ex players when they came in. Even humpy at Bcastle this year as another example. The game now is light years ahead of what it was when these former greats were playing. With pj you know what ur going to get. A well organised professional set up were everyone knows their role. Wouldn't that be a step forward from our current set up? Also the next management team would need to take the under 21 set up more seriously than previous years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 04, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 04, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2015, 02:17:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
what issues do you have with the proposed back room team?

Exactly that, the lack of quality. I look around every good back room team coaches and selectors and what I see is not only gifted coaches but people who know what it takes ex players at that level. People who not only know what it is to talk about it but when they are standing with a player from any of the other clubs involved in the squad that the players will have that instant respect.

The players can stand there and maybe even think to themselves what the hell is this guy asking from me but in the back of their mind they know the coach/ selector has been through it and has that understanding of what/how the player is feeling at that point.

We all know that not all ex players make good managers/ coaches but that is where you need a blend of both.

That is my opinion.

Sambo and woody? Highly respected ex players when they came in. Even humpy at Bcastle this year as another example. The game now is light years ahead of what it was when these former greats were playing. With pj you know what ur going to get. A well organised professional set up were everyone knows their role. Wouldn't that be a step forward from our current set up? Also the next management team would need to take the under 21 set up more seriously than previous years.
listen if it makes sense.It won't happen!!! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2015, 09:02:16 AM
im willing to give PJ a chance at it but club management isnt the same as a county set up.

At Lgiel he had a world of talent all wanting to play for him, cash in the background from people willing to give it up due to their love of the club and players wanting to die for the jersey.

He wont have that at the county and thats where the difficulties lie for him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
 So, the choice is give it to PJ, who knows the players,  or a mercenary that doesn't. Hasn't the latter been tried to death?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 05, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
So, the choice is give it to PJ, who knows the players,  or a mercenary that doesn't. Hasn't the latter been tried to death?


Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2015, 12:21:53 PM
We gave the job to two well know antrim men with a wealth of knowledge, bags of experience, pockets of championship medals, tonnes of training knowledge, knew the club scene inside out and it failed as well.

I'm just stating the obvious. People seem to think because he came from a good club team that all of a sudden it will all go just peachy.

Theres a blindingly obvious fact that people keep over looking - were not good enough and have some sort of delusions of grandeur about antrim hurling and where it deserves to be in the grand scheme of county hurling.Our club scene isnt as brilliant as what some think here, look at sneill and how they have closed the gap to the antrim champs in the last 3 seasons (Lgiel 13, Cdal 14, Cdall 15). Its either that or our standards have dropped. I think its a mixture of both.

Im open minded on this appointment (should it happen), and will see how it goes. I genuinely hope he can turn it around and get us going again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2015, 12:23:25 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 05, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
So, the choice is give it to PJ, who knows the players,  or a mercenary that doesn't. Hasn't the latter been tried to death?


Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass?

jesus i love a good mass Ted
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 05, 2015, 01:03:15 PM
I've always seen it as being very unfair when county teams don't go well for the Manager to become 'the reason' for it.

There's a massive amount of things that need to be done well year on year on year and commitment given by many in a joined up way before we should expect any consistent improvement in our competitiveness against the top teams.

Finance issues, administration issues, training infrastructure issues, dev squad issues, player ego issues, player quality issues, commitment to the jersey issues (I could go on) are all real problems that play a massive part
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on November 05, 2015, 04:40:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 04, 2015, 09:45:04 AM
Quote from: doodaa on November 04, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 03, 2015, 03:04:43 PM
SHOCKING!!!!!
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 03, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
There seems to be a bit of shenanigans going on behind the scenes in relation to the appointment of our country manager. One particular individual is holding the whole process up as he doesn't agree with Ciaran Barr's nomination. It's all a bit sad really.

Quality of the proposed back room team that I would have more than an issue with, but that doesnt seem to matter much  ???
when the man that was appointed to apoint the new manager is getting under minded by a clown who God willing is hopefully on his way out, there's the issue right there.

Who is this "clown" and how is he holding up the show?
Whats his reasoning for not allowing Ciaran Barr to go forward as a candidate?

Really  ::)

What seems to be the problem with my question?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on November 05, 2015, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2015, 04:51:11 PM
Ciaran Barr is not "going forward as a candidate"? He was 'supposedly' given the role of choosing a candidate.

Thanks for clearing that up hardstation it wasn't clear from SIE's post, I just assumed he was a potential candidate.
I am not overly familiar with the various hurling people in Antrim, hence the confusion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 05, 2015, 04:51:11 PM
Ciaran Barr is not "going forward as a candidate"? He was 'supposedly' given the role of choosing a candidate.
Not supposedly, most definitely. And what's more, he has a signed dossier, signed by the person in question, to prove he was assigned to find the next manager. I would imagine if anyone in power went against Barr's decision things could go public.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 05, 2015, 08:07:02 PM
Signed?
Was he paid?
Otherwise I don't see the need for a dossier or a signature?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2015, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 05, 2015, 08:07:02 PM
Signed?
Was he paid?
Otherwise I don't see the need for a dossier or a signature?
I don't know if he was paid. Definitely a dossier though. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
For slow learners like myself!

Who is promoting who for the hurling job. Who is recommending PJ and who isn't.  Who is behind Lennon/Manley?

And who is Ciaran Barr recommending?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 06, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
'Apparently'

Barr interviewed PJ O'Mullan and was happy with him. Barr related this back to County Executive. 'A man' (ahem, hold on A SEC) wasn't happy with Barr's choice and decided he wanted to 'interview' other people. He drove to Cork, spoke to a Cork man and lo & behold the Cork man has now been appointed manager.

That's what I've picked up from all the different reports.

Great!! Seriously what is the logic behind getting someone so far removed from the county the they don't have an idea of the emerging talent or the understanding between the clubs their difficulties and actually have the ability to unite teams ... If only wee Jim Nelson (god rest him) was with us once again !!

Hey ho its off to Div 3 we go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 06, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
'Apparently'

Barr interviewed PJ O'Mullan and was happy with him. Barr related this back to County Executive. 'A man' (ahem, hold on A SEC) wasn't happy with Barr's choice and decided he wanted to 'interview' other people. He drove to Cork, spoke to a Cork man and lo & behold the Cork man has now been appointed manager.

That's what I've picked up from all the different reports.


What cork man?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 06, 2015, 06:33:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 06, 2015, 06:29:08 PM
Ger Manley. As I said, "apparently".
I'm only piecing together different reports. I have heard that one twice, once on the other thread from MIBAG


Cheers.. It should of been PJ all day long for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2015, 06:43:41 PM
Once Ciaran Barr was given the remit, his recommendation  should have been upheld. (Almost no matter who that would have been). If true this is unbelievable and one more example of where our problems really lie on this county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2015, 07:13:44 PM
I seriously don't see the logic of bringing in a person to over see appointments and then say, nah you're alright mate...

That's me regulated to div 5 next year :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍
Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍
Why?
for there's no doubt they wouldn't have wanted PJ named manager.  And any of use on here could say it's the backroom team they had issues with.  Balls!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍
Why?
for there's no doubt they wouldn't have wanted PJ named manager.  And any of use on here could say it's the backroom team they had issues with.  Balls!!!
For obvious reasons no-one in the Dall has really been talking about the county job. I haven't heard too many complaints about him getting the job.I thought it was all sewn up to be honest. There was one fella rumoured to be one the backroom team that genuinely shouldnt be near it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 07, 2015, 05:02:47 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 06, 2015, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍
Why?
for there's no doubt they wouldn't have wanted PJ named manager.  And any of use on here could say it's the backroom team they had issues with.  Balls!!!
For obvious reasons no-one in the Dall has really been talking about the county job. I haven't heard too many complaints about him getting the job.I thought it was all sewn up to be honest. There was one fella rumoured to be one the backroom team that genuinely shouldnt be near it.
obvious reasons  ::).   They'll be back early February tho will they  ;D yes that would be correct.  And he was removed and another brought in.   I'd imagine he's not gonna jump through hoops for the job.  Was asked.  Showed interest and got as close to stabbed in the back as you'd want by a lad that's yet to do f**k all for our county.  But anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 07:17:15 AM
It's amazing how one vindictive man's personal vendetta against PJ can be allowed to influence our county board. Please be in no doubt as to why our hurling and football teams languish where they do.

No county stadium, Dunsilly a dead duck, third division hurling and fourth division football to look forward to. Wonderful!

I haven't heard that Manley has been appointed but if he has, it's a huge slap on the face for Ciaran Barr. Like I said previously, it could go public.

It's all very, very disheartening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 07, 2015, 10:43:20 AM
If that's the way it played out doesn't it feel like groundhog day.

Cringeable  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 07, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
SG your talking nonsense, You Continuesly make snide remarks about our lads Who turn up for County which they obviously love doing and have great pride in, so why would they wish to see the balls up that's being made by FQ?? If PJ gets the job which most people think he should, our lads will support the team as they always do, will yours??  What's happening is wrong but you just couldn't help yourself!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 07, 2015, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 07, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
SG your talking nonsense, You Continuesly make snide remarks about our lads Who turn up for County which they obviously love doing and have great pride in, so why would they wish to see the balls up that's being made by FQ?? If PJ gets the job which most people think he should, our lads will support the team as they always do, will yours??  What's happening is wrong but you just couldn't help yourself!!

+1

lads if.you have something to say about the process then do, the person you are blaming for this jas already been named so you may as well go ahead now and let us know what the reasons are for this person blocking PJ?

My position on it was that I didnt rate the back room team that was nothing to do with anything other than hurling, that was not a reflection on PJ's ability to do the job. It was a personal observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 07:32:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 07, 2015, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 07, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
SG your talking nonsense, You Continuesly make snide remarks about our lads Who turn up for County which they obviously love doing and have great pride in, so why would they wish to see the balls up that's being made by FQ?? If PJ gets the job which most people think he should, our lads will support the team as they always do, will yours??  What's happening is wrong but you just couldn't help yourself!!

+1

lads if.you have something to say about the process then do, the person you are blaming for this jas already been named so you may as well go ahead now and let us know what the reasons are for this person blocking PJ?

My position on it was that I didnt rate the back room team that was nothing to do with anything other than hurling, that was not a reflection on PJ's ability to do the job. It was a personal observation.

Are you for this new manager Nag?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
There's no new manager yet. To be finalised by next weekend. All the other teams at our level are already training.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 07:42:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
There's no new manager yet. To be finalised by next weekend. All the other teams at our level are already training.  ::)

Is there no rest period anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on November 07, 2015, 07:43:44 PM
I may have missed something here. Could somebody tell me who Ger Manley is and what are his credentials for managing Antrim? I know PJ, I know he has won four county championships, four ulsters and an all ireland as coach of Loughgiel. He lives in the county and is routinely at county, club and juvenile matches and would know virtually every player in the county. I may be poorly informed but could someone tell me who Ger Manley, who he has coached and what he has won?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 07:42:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
There's no new manager yet. To be finalised by next weekend. All the other teams at our level are already training.  ::)

Is there no rest period anymore?
teams knocked out if the championship before June are allowed to start training officially 15th November. But sure, if they're not outside... 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 08:01:01 PM
So that last post by you is incorrect?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2015, 08:01:01 PM
So that last post by you is incorrect?  ;D
no. Actually it was factually correct.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 07, 2015, 08:50:03 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 07, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
SG your talking nonsense, You Continuesly make snide remarks about our lads Who turn up for County which they obviously love doing and have great pride in, so why would they wish to see the balls up that's being made by FQ?? If PJ gets the job which most people think he should, our lads will support the team as they always do, will yours??  What's happening is wrong but you just couldn't help yourself!!
how am I continuesly making snide remarks.  I was the first man to congratulate use and I said few weeks back I felt use had a good chance of reaching final on paddys day.  I did say I felt Cdall lads wouldn  be happy if pj didn't get the job.  And il Stand by that statement.   I've been around long enough and no and talk to a fair few hurlers in most clubs in Antrim.  And id have the opinion Cdall wouldn't be the biggest fans of PJ. Get the f**k over yourself. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 07, 2015, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 07, 2015, 07:43:44 PM
I may have missed something here. Could somebody tell me who Ger Manley is and what are his credentials for managing Antrim? I know PJ, I know he has won four county championships, four ulsters and an all ireland as coach of Loughgiel. He lives in the county and is routinely at county, club and juvenile matches and would know virtually every player in the county. I may be poorly informed but could someone tell me who Ger Manley, who he has coached and what he has won?


Ger Manly played fullforward for Cork, early to mid 90's. A robust type of character.

Can't say I know anything about his coaching prowess, but throw up a post on the Cork forum, rebel GAA and see what comes back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 07, 2015, 11:21:02 PM
Is Ger Manley the start of another 3 year plan? How many 3 or 5 year plans before we see results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 07, 2015, 11:21:02 PM
Is Ger Manley the start of another 3 year plan? How many 3 or 5 year plans before we see results?
There were several plans under Ryan. At least two three year plans and one five year plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Sometimes plans don't work out. Are we now going to castigate someone for having a plan? Surely it would be folly to not have a plan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2015, 10:53:10 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Sometimes plans don't work out. Are we now going to castigate someone for having a plan? Surely it would be folly to not have a plan?

The selection plan didn't work out either it seems
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Are we expecting an appointment this week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2015, 11:07:44 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Sometimes plans don't work out. Are we now going to castigate someone for having a plan? Surely it would be folly to not have a plan?
A plan, yes. Three plans in 3 years? No. The writing was on the wall with Ryan early in his tenure, unfortunately some people didn't want to know.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 12:35:13 PM
Well if the plan isn't going well should you not go back to the drawing board? Our problems aren't all down to Kevin Ryan, nor will they be solved with a quick fix by Pj, Ger Manley or anyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2015, 02:14:16 PM
Indeed you should, but after three miserable failed plans in three years do you not start to look at the plan maker? I'm afraid managers are there to be the fall guy. They are their plans after all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on November 08, 2015, 02:19:40 PM
County meeting on Wednesday night, prob be a manager ratified then I would suspect!

U should all brief ur delegates to ask a few questions about the process then!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
Sie make no mistake I'm no fan of Kevin Ryan and he has to shoulder some of the blame no doubt but it wouldn't matter if we replaced him with Pj, Manley or Cody we'd still have big problems that we can only fix as a county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 08, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
Sie make no mistake I'm no fan of Kevin Ryan and he has to shoulder some of the blame no doubt but it wouldn't matter if we replaced him with Pj, Manley or Cody we'd still have big problems that we can only fix as a county.
My argument to that JJ is that the county have to shoulder some of the blame... We all do in some respects.. How much effort do we collectively put in? I've neglected putting something back into the club for a while (though some would think that's a good thing  :-[ ) but I'll be back after this refereeing lark... As Skull has said on numerous occasions and I see it everytime I'm at a clubs refereeing, its the same faces doing the same jobs for most parts...and that's because getting fresh blood on board is tough... Hopefully a bitta freshness along with some of the decent older ones can make a difference
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 08, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
Galway final ended a draw 12 points each
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blueblood on November 08, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Hey MR get off that fence the splinters must be killing ya  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2015, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: blueblood on November 08, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Hey MR get off that fence the splinters must be killing ya  ;)  ;D

To be fair I'm all for change every 4 years regardless .... been calling that for years.. if someone is putting their heart and soul into a project like the county executive then they would lose a bit of passion... that's just my view
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 08, 2015, 09:19:37 PM
I'd go as far to say 5 years. Then never be allowed back. At least then there would be no "Blatter syndrome". It's just a shocking pity that things have been allowed to get so far gone behind the scenes. Maybe Jones road could have a look see.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 09, 2015, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍

jesus, you really do have a problem SG, you should get that rather large chip looked at.

dont know much about the process, but if all is to be believed then it is totally wrong.

Any c'dall folk i have been talking too about PJ's as next manager(quite a few btw) is that he deserves a crack at it.  not everyone is like yourself believe it or not, so as you have already said , get the **** over yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: Megaman on November 09, 2015, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍

jesus, you really do have a problem SG, you should get that rather large chip looked at.

dont know much about the process, but if all is to be believed then it is totally wrong.

Any c'dall folk i have been talking too about PJ's as next manager(quite a few btw) is that he deserves a crack at it.  not everyone is like yourself believe it or not, so as you have already said , get the **** over yourself.

+1

I think almost everyone in the county is of the same opinion that PJ deserves a crack at the job - Cdall folk included. To suggest that the farcical selection process was done to keep Cdall players happy is ludicrous. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 09, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: Megaman on November 09, 2015, 07:52:59 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 06, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Well il leave it at one persons door. Barr was delighted with what pj had to say and backed him for the job 110%, but the bold Frankie knows best!!!!  Biting the lip not to throw a few home truths out, not really the place for it I suppose.   This should keep the dall lads happy anyway I suppose. 👍

jesus, you really do have a problem SG, you should get that rather large chip looked at.

dont know much about the process, but if all is to be believed then it is totally wrong.

Any c'dall folk i have been talking too about PJ's as next manager(quite a few btw) is that he deserves a crack at it.  not everyone is like yourself believe it or not, so as you have already said , get the **** over yourself.

+1

I think almost everyone in the county is of the same opinion that PJ deserves a crack at the job - Cdall folk included. To suggest that the farcical selection process was done to keep Cdall players happy is ludicrous.
I didn't suggest it was done to keep anyone happy.   It was more maybe a sarcastic statement that use lads flew of the lid with.  Because everything use dall boys post is just prim and proper.   Wise up FFS.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 09, 2015, 01:13:18 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
No he prob won't. For he's a little rat. How he got in there and is aloud to dictate things like this is a joke.  County is fucked!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 09, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
I'd be happy enough for PJ to be given the county job but if what is being said on here is true then it's a mess as usual.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
"over my dead body ", I believe is the direct quote.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
"over my dead body ", I believe is the direct quote.

So what did PJ do allegedly to get on the wrong side of the "rat"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on November 09, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
Does the appointment of the county senior hurling manager not have to be ratified at county meeting of all the club delegates? The clubs could vote against it? If the whole county apart from one man wants PJ to be manager, the clubs should vote for PJ. Maybe I am wrong that all these decisions have to be ratified?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
"over my dead body ", I believe is the direct quote.

So what did PJ do allegedly to get on the wrong side of the "rat"?
I'd love to tell you, I really would.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
"over my dead body ", I believe is the direct quote.

So what did PJ do allegedly to get on the wrong side of the "rat"?
I'd love to tell you, I really would.  :-X


A PM would suffice 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 09:07:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 09, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 09, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on November 09, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on September 11, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
I've never known PJ to get sent off as a player or a manager, nevermind suspended. Maybe DR and hirtydarry know better. I suppose we'll all just have to wait until Sunday to find out.  ;)
Rumour has it that a member of the CB has said that PJ has no hope of getting the Antrim Senior job (even if he wanted it) after the 'incident' a few weeks ago.
I also have no doubt that PJ will be on the sideline this weekend.

^^^ I told you's before the Cdall v loughgiel semi final that the certain member of the CB being discussed atm, would not let PJ be the manager.
"over my dead body ", I believe is the direct quote.

So what did PJ do allegedly to get on the wrong side of the "rat"?
I'd love to tell you, I really would.  :-X


A PM would suffice 😉
ah no. Some things are better left.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 09, 2015, 10:51:34 PM
We know...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on November 09, 2015, 11:08:03 PM
County meeting set for weds night lads hopefully be white smoke then and hurlers can get back training in next coup,e of weeks!

Pj has his interview for job tomorrow night! Hopefully he gets the job and the whole process never happens like that again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on November 10, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Anyone not for PJ is against Antrim development as a whole. I'm for PJ.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2015, 09:44:18 AM
im willing to see how he gets on. i think he should be given a chance and get the full backing of every club to do the job.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2015, 10:32:34 AM
+1

With the same budget as football, agreed in advance.

Not trying to be devisive but with football is in division four and I don't see FQ trawling all round the south trying to get a big name to sort out our problems!

Never Do. With the exception of Baker every county football manager has come from Belfast. If he isn't from up the road he is from... down the road...or in the occasional deviance, from up the hill.

Level budget. Level ambition. Level playing field Please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2015, 10:38:41 AM
What do we have to lose appointing him? Morale can't be much lower within the county, maybe one of our own is what we need to boost it instead of an outsider.

Personally I don't care who gets the job as long as he/she can get us playing well and get our best talent on the pitch!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
If PJ is not appointed - I would be interested in simple answers;
Why not?
What did the successful candidate offer over PJ?
That's it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2015, 11:08:13 AM
they cant even tell us whats happening at Dunsilly so i wont hold my breath to find out the reasons if PJ doesnt get the job.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2015, 11:53:35 AM
We've been told the builders will be starting straight after the AGM  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 12:50:48 PM
The wee man working deviously like mad behind the scenes has now teamed Manley and Lennon together as the dream ticket for Antrim. Words fail me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 09, 2015, 11:08:03 PM
County meeting set for weds night lads hopefully be white smoke then and hurlers can get back training in next coup,e of weeks!

Pj has his interview for job tomorrow night! Hopefully he gets the job and the whole process never happens like that again.
to my knowledge he's had it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on November 10, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
The wee man working deviously like mad behind the scenes has now teamed Manley and Lennon together as the dream ticket for Antrim

That is factually incorrect! And I know for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 10, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
The wee man working deviously like mad behind the scenes has now teamed Manley and Lennon together as the dream ticket for Antrim

That is factually incorrect! And I know for sure.
which part?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 10, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 01:27:59 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 10, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
The wee man working deviously like mad behind the scenes has now teamed Manley and Lennon together as the dream ticket for Antrim

That is factually incorrect! And I know for sure.
which part?  ;)

SIE sure you have the inside track on the whole process and seem to know so much about it  ;)

You could give us all the info on it and set Pjoe straight  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on November 10, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
The latter part of the statement about the dream ticket.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on November 10, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
The latter part of the statement about the dream ticket.
I suppose we'll have to wait and see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Ulster Hurling Championship gets a major makeover
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2015/11/10/news/ulster-hurling-championship-gets-a-makeover-319767/?param=ds441rif44T

The four teams in the top tier will be drawn together in semi-finals (Antrim v Derry and Armagh v Down), with the winners going on to the final. The semi-final losers will meet in a play-off and the losing side will swap places with the winner of the second-tier competition, which will be played off along identical lines – two semi-finals and a final.

The timeframe hasn't been confirmed yet, but it is understood the preferred date for the Championship would be July. The new format will initially be brought in for a two-year trial period, but Michael Hasson, vice-president of the Ulster Council, is confident it will prove popular with players and supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 10, 2015, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 10, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Ulster Hurling Championship gets a major makeover
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2015/11/10/news/ulster-hurling-championship-gets-a-makeover-319767/?param=ds441rif44T

The four teams in the top tier will be drawn together in semi-finals (Antrim v Derry and Armagh v Down), with the winners going on to the final. The semi-final losers will meet in a play-off and the losing side will swap places with the winner of the second-tier competition, which will be played off along identical lines – two semi-finals and a final.

The timeframe hasn't been confirmed yet, but it is understood the preferred date for the Championship would be July. The new format will initially be brought in for a two-year trial period, but Michael Hasson, vice-president of the Ulster Council, is confident it will prove popular with players and supporters.

I think the relevance and timing of the competition are still the major issues - although good to see Ulster Council at least showing some remote interest in hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 10, 2015, 02:51:42 PM
i think its disappointing that Cavan dont enter it. As they said in the article they have opted out of entering.

Thats not good enough, the UC should be in that county now working on getting the game going again and the Cavan CB should be doing the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: liamrice1 on November 10, 2015, 03:13:46 PM
A chairde,

At 4pm Saturday 21st November 2015 (in Pairc Esler, Newry) Cumann Pheadair Naofa GAC are hosting a unique hurling event in which a St Peter's/Ulster Select will play a Kilkenny legends team in a one off hurling 'Legends' match. The Kilkenny panel includes legendary net minder James McGarry, a full back line of John Tennyson, Michael Kavanagh and Noel Hickey, a half back line that would grace many current county teams of Tommy Walsh, Brian Hogan and JJ Delaney. Derek Lyng will marshal the midfield whilst up front they boast players of the quality of Aidan Fogarty, Martin Comerford, Eddie Brennan, DJ Carey, Charlie Carter and Henry Shefflin.



The Ulster team is made up of county players spread from throughout Ulster including; Conor McKinley, Ciaran Clarke, Odran McFadden and Chris O'Connell of Antrim. Sean McCullagh, Ruairi Convery, Kevin and Liam Hinphey of Derry. Fintan Conway, Paul Sheehan, Danny Toner, Ciaran Coulter and Stephen Keith of Down as well as county players from Armagh, Fermanagh and Donegal (Sean McVeigh of St Eunan's and Danny Cullen of Setanta).



Tickets are priced at £10 for adults and £5 for kids and can be purchased from The Quays Newry, Down GAA County Office Castlewellan, St Peter's Clubrooms Warrenpoint (Sunday 8pm-10pm), Centra in Cloughey and Centra in Portaferry. There are also a number of group tickets available in House of Sport Belfast by contacting Damien McConville damienmcconville@sportni.net alternatively the Down ticket van will be present at the match for ticket sales. It is advisable to purchase group tickets in advance to avoid unnecessary delays on the day of the match.


Visit www.warrenpointgaa.com or follow us on twitter or facebook for updates on the game.



Is mise le meas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
what makes you think he's suspended?

Everyone knows PJ wasn't the coach. He was however the manager. He got the backroom team together then implemented a plan.  Something similar to smokie in that regard. Smokie could well be county manager in the future. No reason why not, with Sambo as his coach, like Cushendall.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
hahaha. He wasn't even wanted in Cdall FFS.  Maybe Mc Manus player manager like he's at with the dall is the way forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
hahaha. He wasn't even wanted in Cdall FFS.  Maybe Mc Manus player manager like he's at with the dall is the way forward.

You mean no one in Cushendall wanted the job.  You have to hand it to Smokie and his backroom team, even with all the adversities, key players injured etc etc they still beat the "unbeatables".

You can be rest assured that Neil McManus will be the first to put his name forward to commit to Antrim regardless of who the Antrim Manager is, the fellow has a bit of class. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 10, 2015, 04:39:50 PM
Lads, lads, lads. ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
what makes you think he's suspended?

Everyone knows PJ wasn't the coach. He was however the manager. He got the backroom team together then implemented a plan.  Something similar to smokie in that regard. Smokie could well be county manager in the future. No reason why not, with Sambo as his coach, like Cushendall.  ;)

It was well enough documented that he received a 12 week suspension, twelve weeks from Championship semi have not lapsed - not rocket science.

I also heard he was trying to get it lifted before tonight.

Why would he be trying to lift a suspension that didn't exist?

I suppose you are listening to tales again.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
hahaha. He wasn't even wanted in Cdall FFS.  Maybe Mc Manus player manager like he's at with the dall is the way forward.

You mean no one in Cushendall wanted the job.  You have to hand it to Smokie and his backroom team, even with all the adversities, key players injured etc etc they still beat the "unbeatables".

You can be rest assured that Neil McManus will be the first to put his name forward to commit to Antrim regardless of who the Antrim Manager is, the fellow has a bit of class.
. Yes.  I tip my hat to smokie for taking the job and winning Antrim and Ulster.  But if you've accused Pj of having nothing to do with the winning factor. (Couldn't be farther from the truth btw) then smokie might as well had been on the cole run. Lol.   And no I didn't mean no1 else wanted it.  That may also have been the case.  But he wasn't wanted,  don't try to tell me different now.  Neil has been an ever present in fairness to him yes. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on November 10, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
In todays paper that pj had his ban lifted at the weekend to free him up to attend interview!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
hahaha. He wasn't even wanted in Cdall FFS.  Maybe Mc Manus player manager like he's at with the dall is the way forward.

You mean no one in Cushendall wanted the job.  You have to hand it to Smokie and his backroom team, even with all the adversities, key players injured etc etc they still beat the "unbeatables".

You can be rest assured that Neil McManus will be the first to put his name forward to commit to Antrim regardless of who the Antrim Manager is, the fellow has a bit of class.
. Yes.  I tip my hat to smokie for taking the job and winning Antrim and Ulster.  But if you've accused Pj of having nothing to do with the winning factor. (Couldn't be farther from the truth btw) then smokie might as well had been on the cole run. Lol.   And no I didn't mean no1 else wanted it.  That may also have been the case.  But he wasn't wanted,  don't try to tell me different now.  Neil has been an ever present in fairness to him yes.

I never accused PJ of having nothing to do with the winning factor, I merely highlighted that without Jim Nelson there has been no winning factor.  I think its very unfair of you to say he wasn't wanted - how can you justify saying this? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on November 10, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
In todays paper that pj had his ban lifted at the weekend to free him up to attend interview!

Can someone post a copy of this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 04:34:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on November 10, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
So Ciaran Barr was appointed to make a RECOMMENDATION as to who the next Antrim manger was to be. 

Does anyone know how many candidates he actually interviewed or how many of the rumoured candidates took a vacancy elsewhere?

Perhaps Ciaran Barr only interviewed PJ.

I would like to know the hard facts before passing judgement.

Perhaps the County Secretary felt there was no real opposition to PJ and has quite rightly found a few suitable candidates - why shouldn't they be given a shot?

PJ will still be selected if he is deemed the right man for the job.
what one of the sons are you??   He was deemed the right man by the man who was given the job of finding the new manager.  If it was anyone from Cdall Ballycastle Dunloy or wherever I'd feel the same.  Time for an in house manager who actually knows club hurling in Antrim.

Smokie is the man for the job if that is the case.  PJ hasn't won anything without Jim Nelson - FACT. 

Truth be told, the Loughgiel side line (and scaffolding) lost the game v Cushendall in the County Semi-Final.

Anyway, how can a suspended man be illegible to take part in an official GAA interview?
hahaha. He wasn't even wanted in Cdall FFS.  Maybe Mc Manus player manager like he's at with the dall is the way forward.

You mean no one in Cushendall wanted the job.  You have to hand it to Smokie and his backroom team, even with all the adversities, key players injured etc etc they still beat the "unbeatables".

You can be rest assured that Neil McManus will be the first to put his name forward to commit to Antrim regardless of who the Antrim Manager is, the fellow has a bit of class.
. Yes.  I tip my hat to smokie for taking the job and winning Antrim and Ulster.  But if you've accused Pj of having nothing to do with the winning factor. (Couldn't be farther from the truth btw) then smokie might as well had been on the cole run. Lol.   And no I didn't mean no1 else wanted it.  That may also have been the case.  But he wasn't wanted,  don't try to tell me different now.  Neil has been an ever present in fairness to him yes.

I never accused PJ of having nothing to do with the winning factor, I merely highlighted that without Jim Nelson there has been no winning factor.  I think its very unfair of you to say he wasn't wanted - how can you justify saying this?
from talking to your senior hurlers.  From talking to most of the country. I'd say if you were talking to smokie he'd tell you himself. He's took some shit this year from past hurlers and from "big" club men.  But again il say. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 10, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
SG some of your points are correct, Smokie was the only man looking for the job and any wonder!! as I know PJ found out your star doesn't be long losing its shine, previous managers have gotten seriously unfair stick from our Members or more like non members.
But the one thing Smokie was/is in Cushendall, is a serious clubman so in my opinion I'd say his players backed him up with a serious championship campaign to date. I don't know anyone even past players that gave serious stick, yeh difference of opinion certainly but no more than that, I could be wrong in that. Our players have helped Smokie's with his lack of experience, and Together have got us thus far, now rewind 12 Months and it tells a story, Smokie's record is better than Sambos, but he's most definitely not Senior County management material and nor will he ever be,, as for McManus he's put a serious shift in for Club and County this year wether you like him or not, and even though PJ has slagged off the County for the last 3 years, if he does and again I hope he gets the job he should prey Neil lines out this year, because his absence will make the job much harder.
On another note and as you never answered me previously, is Watson going to be available for selection this year to Antrim, as your players will admit, there's hardly a glowing admiration towards PJ from the King.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 10, 2015, 06:42:07 PM
The king? Shefflin?

As for Liam, I'd say he'd commit. As for his opinion on PJ, read his twitter feed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 10, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
SG some of your points are correct, Smokie was the only man looking for the job and any wonder!! as I know PJ found out your star doesn't be long losing its shine, previous managers have gotten seriously unfair stick from our Members or more like non members.
But the one thing Smokie was/is in Cushendall, is a serious clubman so in my opinion I'd say his players backed him up with a serious championship campaign to date. I don't know anyone even past players that gave serious stick, yeh difference of opinion certainly but no more than that, I could be wrong in that. Our players have helped Smokie's with his lack of experience, and Together have got us thus far, now rewind 12 Months and it tells a story, Smokie's record is better than Sambos, but he's most definitely not Senior County management material and nor will he ever be,, as for McManus he's put a serious shift in for Club and County this year wether you like him or not, and even though PJ has slagged off the County for the last 3 years, if he does and again I hope he gets the job he should prey Neil lines out this year, because his absence will make the job much harder.
On another note and as you never answered me previously, is Watson going to be available for selection this year to Antrim, as your players will admit, there's hardly a glowing admiration towards PJ from the King.
didn't see you ask me before.  Liam has been available for selection as past few years other than being injured or club duties.  I wonder had Kevin Ryan still been in charge.  Would Neill have been dropped for not committing to the county.  Even tho his club have a big chance at an All Ireland.  Honest question.  No dig at anyone other than KR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 10, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 10, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
SG some of your points are correct, Smokie was the only man looking for the job and any wonder!! as I know PJ found out your star doesn't be long losing its shine, previous managers have gotten seriously unfair stick from our Members or more like non members.
But the one thing Smokie was/is in Cushendall, is a serious clubman so in my opinion I'd say his players backed him up with a serious championship campaign to date. I don't know anyone even past players that gave serious stick, yeh difference of opinion certainly but no more than that, I could be wrong in that. Our players have helped Smokie's with his lack of experience, and Together have got us thus far, now rewind 12 Months and it tells a story, Smokie's record is better than Sambos, but he's most definitely not Senior County management material and nor will he ever be,, as for McManus he's put a serious shift in for Club and County this year wether you like him or not, and even though PJ has slagged off the County for the last 3 years, if he does and again I hope he gets the job he should prey Neil lines out this year, because his absence will make the job much harder.
On another note and as you never answered me previously, is Watson going to be available for selection this year to Antrim, as your players will admit, there's hardly a glowing admiration towards PJ from the King.
didn't see you ask me before.  Liam has been available for selection as past few years other than being injured or club duties.  I wonder had Kevin Ryan still been in charge.  Would Neill have been dropped for not committing to the county.  Even tho his club have a big chance at an All Ireland.  Honest question.  No dig at anyone other than KR
Theres's a high possibility Neil won't be in the country next year whenever the club campaign. Graffin even more so.
Anyway, lets not get into old McManus/KR shite again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 10, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 10, 2015, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 10, 2015, 06:21:48 PM
SG some of your points are correct, Smokie was the only man looking for the job and any wonder!! as I know PJ found out your star doesn't be long losing its shine, previous managers have gotten seriously unfair stick from our Members or more like non members.
But the one thing Smokie was/is in Cushendall, is a serious clubman so in my opinion I'd say his players backed him up with a serious championship campaign to date. I don't know anyone even past players that gave serious stick, yeh difference of opinion certainly but no more than that, I could be wrong in that. Our players have helped Smokie's with his lack of experience, and Together have got us thus far, now rewind 12 Months and it tells a story, Smokie's record is better than Sambos, but he's most definitely not Senior County management material and nor will he ever be,, as for McManus he's put a serious shift in for Club and County this year wether you like him or not, and even though PJ has slagged off the County for the last 3 years, if he does and again I hope he gets the job he should prey Neil lines out this year, because his absence will make the job much harder.
On another note and as you never answered me previously, is Watson going to be available for selection this year to Antrim, as your players will admit, there's hardly a glowing admiration towards PJ from the King.
didn't see you ask me before.  Liam has been available for selection as past few years other than being injured or club duties.  I wonder had Kevin Ryan still been in charge.  Would Neill have been dropped for not committing to the county.  Even tho his club have a big chance at an All Ireland.  Honest question.  No dig at anyone other than KR
Theres's a high possibility Neil won't be in the country next year whenever the club campaign. Graffin even more so.
Anyone lets not get into old McManus/KR shite again.
I've heard that.  Possible traveling.  Fair play to both. Wouldn't stay in way of any young lad traveling. Was a simple question. Wasn't looking to go down it again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 10, 2015, 11:27:46 PM
SG I'd say that perhaps Watsons previous went against him, but it's certainly not the way I would have done it, and it cost the County and players reputations suffered. PJ will hopefully see sense and allow the Cushendall boys there time with the club and they will commit when their campaign ends.
Any white some after tonight's interviews?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 11, 2015, 09:00:32 AM
Lets not waste our time with LW and will be commit or not nonsense. Hes walked off every panel hes been on at the county. I cant be bothered with him.

As far as im concerned theres better players at Lgiel than him i would much prefer to see at the county - Shay Casey, James McNaughton, Sian McGrath, Eddie & Tony McCloskey. All of whom wouldnt let you down when they were needed. Concentrate on our future and not dwell in the past misfortunes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 11, 2015, 09:58:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 11, 2015, 09:00:32 AM
Lets not waste our time with LW and will be commit or not nonsense. Hes walked off every panel hes been on at the county. I cant be bothered with him.

As far as im concerned theres better players at Lgiel than him i would much prefer to see at the county - Shay Casey, James McNaughton, Sian McGrath, Eddie & Tony McCloskey. All of whom wouldnt let you down when they were needed. Concentrate on our future and not dwell in the past misfortunes.

I'm a fan of Liam's' but I have to agree with you here DR. Too much water under the bridge and he's not getting any younger. Unfortunately when he retires from hurling he will look back at his county career with lots of regrets. Such a shame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 11, 2015, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: cfclg on November 11, 2015, 09:58:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 11, 2015, 09:00:32 AM
Lets not waste our time with LW and will be commit or not nonsense. Hes walked off every panel hes been on at the county. I cant be bothered with him.

As far as im concerned theres better players at Lgiel than him i would much prefer to see at the county - Shay Casey, James McNaughton, Sian McGrath, Eddie & Tony McCloskey. All of whom wouldnt let you down when they were needed. Concentrate on our future and not dwell in the past misfortunes.

I'm a fan of Liam's' but I have to agree with you here DR. Too much water under the bridge and he's not getting any younger. Unfortunately when he retires from hurling he will look back at his county career with lots of regrets. Such a shame.

A great player on his day but his career is coming to an end. Theres better young lads there at the clubs who are the future to work with and get into the panel for the future. His own club has a wealth of talent who will take his place in the next few years and these are whom you look to. Those lads ive mentioned along with young O'Boyle, Betty etc are all coming through the minor ranks at Lgiel and are the ones to look at, not LW.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 11, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
Slightly off topic but has a date for Cdall semi final been set yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 02:34:23 PM
Normally first week in Feb no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 11, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 02:34:23 PM
Normally first week in Feb no?

It alternates between the middle weekend and the last weekend of Feb with the football normally. I havent seen which it is this year yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 11, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
Congrats to PJ O'Mullan.. Just announced to Twitter, hopefully the clubs and players get behind him now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
Never on doubt  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
After all the nonsense on this thread...

Glad to see it. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 11, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
As always it will be interesting to see the perceptions of home club bias. Could Winker and McManus play on the same team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:27:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 11, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
After all the nonsense on this thread...

Glad to see it. Best of luck to him.
maybe just maybe the "nonsense" as you call it made its way back to the man that was going out of his way to stop it weeks ago.  Any way. Good to see an Antrim man get his shot.  I've been calling for it as years.    Nothing to loose. As was posted few weeks back. Neil may be traveling this year.  As it graffin.  So it won't be anything to do with the appointment of the big man. Before that even starts. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 11, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!

Excited about Christy Ring and Div 2 ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2015, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!

Excited about Christy Ring and Div 2 ??
I'm excited that we're not going down the same route that got us there.  ;)

Congrats to the big man. He deserves his chance. Glad to see it going to an Antrim man again. Someone who actually knows the players and goes to games at all levels up and down the county, and indeed the country. He's an Antrim fan through and through. Another thing I know is that there'll be no club bias. Everyone will get a fair crack at it, that's all any player and supporter can ask for.


As was posted earlier, I hope the players, fans and county board get behind him and his team. Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!

Excited about Christy Ring and Div 2 ??
have to play our way out of it no?!?   Am excited about the the prospect of things getting done right.  I can assure you. There will be no stones left unturned. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 11, 2015, 09:25:32 PM
It's a fickle world we live in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 11, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Great news hopefully it'll create a bit of a buzz about Antrim hurling , it's made me feel more positive anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 11, 2015, 09:25:32 PM
It's a fickle world we live in.
?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 12, 2015, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!

Excited about Christy Ring and Div 2 ??
have to play our way out of it no?!?   Am excited about the the prospect of things getting done right.  I can assure you. There will be no stones left unturned.

I think its important to say that even the likes of Brian Cody and his backroom team and budget would not bring about 'a revival in Antrim Hurling' as a lot of eejits on twitter suggest is possible with PJ's appointment.

It'll take years of structured work and investment in development squads coupled with a drive to ensure better coaching across all clubs in the county. At the minute we're in Div2 because thats pretty much our level IMO. 

I hope he can get our best players playing for each other again. Best of luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 12, 2015, 08:28:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 11, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 11, 2015, 08:12:18 PM
Delighted for the big man.  Deserves his shot at it. Excited about the year ahead.  Really am!!

Excited about Christy Ring and Div 2 ??

Surely that'll be the minimum requirement, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on November 12, 2015, 08:40:57 AM
So much for all the hysteria on here for the last few weeks.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 12, 2015, 09:03:47 AM
Glad to see it sorted out now. Best of luck to him and i hope hes given time to get down to work and get on with the job.

I dont expect to see any massive shock improvements in a year, in fact i would be of the opinion that it could take a few years.

County development squads, minor team etc all are now more important that ever. The future of antrim hurling lies in there and we have got to keep our focus on them and getting them into the adult set up as better players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 12, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 12, 2015, 09:03:47 AM
Glad to see it sorted out now. Best of luck to him and i hope hes given time to get down to work and get on with the job.

I dont expect to see any massive shock improvements in a year, in fact i would be of the opinion that it could take a few years.

County development squads, minor team etc all are now more important that ever. The future of antrim hurling lies in there and we have got to keep our focus on them and getting them into the adult set up as better players.

Lets hope he gets the support of the clubs/ club managers  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
Was PJ the only recommendation from Coiste Bainisti to county committee? Did the Lennon/Manley plan fizzle out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2015, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 12, 2015, 09:03:47 AM
Glad to see it sorted out now. Best of luck to him and i hope hes given time to get down to work and get on with the job.

I dont expect to see any massive shock improvements in a year, in fact i would be of the opinion that it could take a few years.

County development squads, minor team etc all are now more important that ever. The future of antrim hurling lies in there and we have got to keep our focus on them and getting them into the adult set up as better players.


Your never far off the mark DR.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2015, 11:09:55 AM
+1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 12, 2015, 11:47:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2015, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 12, 2015, 09:03:47 AM
Glad to see it sorted out now. Best of luck to him and i hope hes given time to get down to work and get on with the job.

I dont expect to see any massive shock improvements in a year, in fact i would be of the opinion that it could take a few years.

County development squads, minor team etc all are now more important that ever. The future of antrim hurling lies in there and we have got to keep our focus on them and getting them into the adult set up as better players.


Your never far off the mark DR.

Should of went for an interview myself  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 12, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Glad PJ has got the nod and good luck to him - I much prefer a domestic appointment.

On a personal note I just hope he allows our club scene to hurl freely with no hinderence - after all hurling at the lower level we don't need to do the annual counter-productive exercise of wrapping 30 lads in cotton wool and inhibiting the hurling of club players.

PJ was the obvious appointment in my book - let's hope we start taking simple obvious methods to boot. Hurl hurl and keep hurling - improve everyone and the whole scene that's what will lift our level at county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 12, 2015, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Glad PJ has got the nod and good luck to him - I much prefer a domestic appointment.

On a personal note I just hope he allows our club scene to hurl freely with no hinderence - after all hurling at the lower level we don't need to do the annual counter-productive exercise of wrapping 30 lads in cotton wool and inhibiting the hurling of club players.

PJ was the obvious appointment in my book - let's hope we start taking simple obvious methods to boot. Hurl hurl and keep hurling - improve everyone and the whole scene that's what will lift our level at county.

Also glad of PJ's appointment, glad into didnt end in a total farce.

As for club hurling scene i dont expect he will stand in the way of it too much after all he has said the past few years  (no different than anyone else btw)

i think its a good time to come in, under no real pressure, as the old saying/chant goes, "were sh*t and we know we are", although saying that promotion from Div 2 and Christy Ring winners would be expected.

Good luck to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 12, 2015, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Glad PJ has got the nod and good luck to him - I much prefer a domestic appointment.

On a personal note I just hope he allows our club scene to hurl freely with no hinderence - after all hurling at the lower level we don't need to do the annual counter-productive exercise of wrapping 30 lads in cotton wool and inhibiting the hurling of club players.

PJ was the obvious appointment in my book - let's hope we start taking simple obvious methods to boot. Hurl hurl and keep hurling - improve everyone and the whole scene that's what will lift our level at county.

Also glad of PJ's appointment, glad into didnt end in a total farce.

As for club hurling scene i dont expect he will stand in the way of it too much after all he has said the past few years  (no different than anyone else btw)

i think its a good time to come in, under no real pressure, as the old saying/chant goes, "were sh*t and we know we are", although saying that promotion from Div 2 and Christy Ring winners would be expected.

Good luck to him.


Jingo got what was required then.. Christy ring and promotion... And Shafted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on November 12, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Will w**ker be back with him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 12, 2015, 02:52:27 PM
Quote from: pullhard on November 12, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Will w**ker be back with him?

Think this one is going to run on to the first game  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: pullhard on November 12, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Will w**ker be back with him?
I'd think there'll be trials and a squad selected from that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 12, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: pullhard on November 12, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Will w**ker be back with him?
I'd think there'll be trials and a squad selected from that.

Best way to have it.

Hopefully we see a good turn out from all the clubs, esp from the younger lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 12, 2015, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 12, 2015, 01:11:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 12, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
Glad PJ has got the nod and good luck to him - I much prefer a domestic appointment.

On a personal note I just hope he allows our club scene to hurl freely with no hinderence - after all hurling at the lower level we don't need to do the annual counter-productive exercise of wrapping 30 lads in cotton wool and inhibiting the hurling of club players.

PJ was the obvious appointment in my book - let's hope we start taking simple obvious methods to boot. Hurl hurl and keep hurling - improve everyone and the whole scene that's what will lift our level at county.

Also glad of PJ's appointment, glad into didnt end in a total farce.

As for club hurling scene i dont expect he will stand in the way of it too much after all he has said the past few years  (no different than anyone else btw)

i think its a good time to come in, under no real pressure, as the old saying/chant goes, "were sh*t and we know we are", although saying that promotion from Div 2 and Christy Ring winners would be expected.

Good luck to him.


Jingo got what was required then.. Christy ring and promotion... And Shafted

And that might very well happen again with our crowd again.  ill not even comment on Jingo though  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on November 12, 2015, 04:59:20 PM
Has Pj's backroom team been confirmed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2015, 05:04:32 PM
Yeah. It's been named as 3/4 weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 12, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
I wouldn't have thought that PJ would need trails. Surely the benefit of a home grown manager is that he would know the club players and already have a fair idea who he would want on a panel? I hope players from all clubs turn out and buy in. We've some sensational players, some young exciting talent and with a bit of cohesion results could improve fairly quickly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 12, 2015, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
I wouldn't have thought that PJ would need trails. Surely the benefit of a home grown manager is that he would know the club players and already have a fair idea who he would want on a panel? I hope players from all clubs turn out and buy in. We've some sensational players, some young exciting talent and with a bit of cohesion results could improve fairly quickly.
out of everyone JJ.  I was waiting to here your input.  I'd say he has an idea of everyone he'd like evolved yes.  But the trials is maybe more for the lad that wouldn't spring to mind to maybe impress and get a chance to prove his worth.  I agree there is a lot of talent there if he can get them to buy in and get the best from them.  I've confidence in him to do so. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 12, 2015, 10:05:18 PM
Trials are artificial and often to Tick the box of giving everyone a chance.
I'd have no problem if PJ and his men picked a provisional squad. 
Then chopped & changed with the best trials of all - meaningful club hurling games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on November 12, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Glad that PJ has got his chance at the job, well deserved. There was chat on the BBC website that Justin McCarthy was going to be involved in some capacity. If so that would be a step in the right direction, a very experienced intercounty manager to back up an experienced club manager with lots of local knowledge. Well done to PJ all you have to do now is get promotion and win the Christy Ring, no pressure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
For those who missed it, PJ's back room team is:

Gavin Duffy, Paul Graham, Damian Fox and Justin McCarthy. Strength and conditioning Paul Talty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 12, 2015, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
For those who missed it, PJ's back room team is:

Gavin Duffy, Paul Graham, Damian Fox and Justin McCarthy. Strength and conditioning Paul Talty.
Serious expenses forms there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on November 12, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
Is that Damian Fox the ex Laois manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 11:06:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 12, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
Is that Damian Fox the ex Laois manager?
yep
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 11:07:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 12, 2015, 10:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
For those who missed it, PJ's back room team is:

Gavin Duffy, Paul Graham, Damian Fox and Justin McCarthy. Strength and conditioning Paul Talty.
Serious expenses forms there.
not as seriously expensive as bringing someone from Cork up 3 or 4 times a week. I think McCarthy will be up a couple of times a month.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2015, 09:27:23 AM
Ive seen enough false dawns in antrim hurling to be getting excited about any appointment. The new team will take time to get in and get things running and its important that they are given that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2015, 09:27:23 AM
Ive seen enough false dawns in antrim hurling to be getting excited about any appointment. The new team will take time to get in and get things running and its important that they are given that.

Wouldn't say false dawn... We are 2a we should win that and win Christy Ring... Then prepare for next year in 1b and Liam McCarthy... Via the Leinster championship! 

I'd be more than happy with good league performances (consistent) than doing well in Leinster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Realistically we want to be winning the league and the christy ring. We're not in the leinster championship are we??

Winning ulster too.

The main thing we need is everyone pulling together and not a list of sad stories about not being picked because of this that and the other.  We get that and we will get results.

Does the top of 2a get promoted or is there a playoff with bottom of 1b?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2015, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2015, 09:27:23 AM
Ive seen enough false dawns in antrim hurling to be getting excited about any appointment. The new team will take time to get in and get things running and its important that they are given that.

Wouldn't say false dawn... We are 2a we should win that and win Christy Ring... Then prepare for next year in 1b and Liam McCarthy... Via the Leinster championship! 

I'd be more than happy with good league performances (consistent) than doing well in Leinster

Maybe false dawn is a tad harsh. More like im not getting excited about anything until i see how it pans out.

Getting back to 1b will be very hard. If we win 2a we have a play off with whoever finishes bottom, that could be Offaly or Kerry possibly. That will be our main aim this year.

Championship wise winning the Christy Ring would be important but at the same time i would rather our league standard was raised and we were able to compete with the teams in 1b. We aint going to win leinster or the all ireland in the foreseeable future so get our league hurling sorted first and try and compete with these teams.

Also i would like us to make a better effort in the walsh cup, its a good chance to get early games against good solid opposition so we should take advantage of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Realistically we want to be winning the league and the christy ring. We're not in the leinster championship are we??

Winning ulster too.

The main thing we need is everyone pulling together and not a list of sad stories about not being picked because of this that and the other.  We get that and we will get results.

Does the top of 2a get promoted or is there a playoff with bottom of 1b?

This is correct, plus if you win the Christy Ring you play the relegation contenders from the Leinster round robin series the following week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 13, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Realistically we want to be winning the league and the christy ring. We're not in the leinster championship are we??

Winning ulster too.

The main thing we need is everyone pulling together and not a list of sad stories about not being picked because of this that and the other.  We get that and we will get results.

Does the top of 2a get promoted or is there a playoff with bottom of 1b?

This is correct, plus if you win the Christy Ring you play the relegation contenders from the Leinster round robin series the following week.

Crap. Well I guess that went for us other years so can't complain too much.

Promotion in both has to be the goal really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 13, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
I thought it changed from next year...in that the winners of 2A go straight up & the bottom of 1B go straight down with no relegation play off?

If that's the case we should be getting promotion & winning Christy Ring. Anything else in my eyes is failure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Realistically we want to be winning the league and the christy ring. We're not in the leinster championship are we??

Winning ulster too.

The main thing we need is everyone pulling together and not a list of sad stories about not being picked because of this that and the other.  We get that and we will get results.

Does the top of 2a get promoted or is there a playoff with bottom of 1b?

I was looking past the initial year after winning the league and Christy Ring Tommy !! small steps lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Talk here like this is all a given.  Remember the teams that beat us last year is all in D2 and Christy ring.  Carlow Westmeath.  Even down and Derry will be licking there lips to get at us.  It's a bigger task than maybe some think. I've still confidence in pj and whatever team he puts out.  But like someone said already.  It will be a process.  Not a quick fix.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Nothing is a given when you support antrim...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Talk here like this is all a given.  Remember the teams that beat us last year is all in D2 and Christy ring.  Carlow Westmeath.  Even down and Derry will be licking there lips to get at us.  It's a bigger task than maybe some think. I've still confidence in pj and whatever team he puts out.  But like someone said already.  It will be a process.  Not a quick fix.

I'm assuming we'll be a better team than last year! (McManus & Graffin availability a factor).
Therefore while I accept our level is declined - I think it should still be above those teams.

In terms of the "process". I said before my wish that PJ will allow the club scene to be unhindered.
This is also the process for me. It will take a few years to broadly increase the playing pool.
So forgetting about results for a second - wouldn't it be great if at the end of the season there is no question over Pj's position?
A period of stable (even if slow) improvement with the same manager and steady progression would be great!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:52:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Talk here like this is all a given.  Remember the teams that beat us last year is all in D2 and Christy ring.  Carlow Westmeath.  Even down and Derry will be licking there lips to get at us.  It's a bigger task than maybe some think. I've still confidence in pj and whatever team he puts out.  But like someone said already.  It will be a process.  Not a quick fix.

I'm assuming we'll be a better team than last year! (McManus & Graffin availability a factor).
Therefore while I accept our level is declined - I think it should still be above those teams.

In terms of the "process". I said before my wish that PJ will allow the club scene to be unhindered.
This is also the process for me. It will take a few years to broadly increase the playing pool.
So forgetting about results for a second - wouldn't it be great if at the end of the season there is no question over Pj's position?
A period of stable (even if slow) improvement with the same manager and steady progression would be great!
yes I'd say if neither lad is avalible it will be a big blow.  But we will have to get on with it, Westmeath and Carlow are still in the Liam Mc Carthy right? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 13, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:52:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
Talk here like this is all a given.  Remember the teams that beat us last year is all in D2 and Christy ring.  Carlow Westmeath.  Even down and Derry will be licking there lips to get at us.  It's a bigger task than maybe some think. I've still confidence in pj and whatever team he puts out.  But like someone said already.  It will be a process.  Not a quick fix.

I'm assuming we'll be a better team than last year! (McManus & Graffin availability a factor).
Therefore while I accept our level is declined - I think it should still be above those teams.

In terms of the "process". I said before my wish that PJ will allow the club scene to be unhindered.
This is also the process for me. It will take a few years to broadly increase the playing pool.
So forgetting about results for a second - wouldn't it be great if at the end of the season there is no question over Pj's position?
A period of stable (even if slow) improvement with the same manager and steady progression would be great!
yes I'd say if neither lad is avalible it will be a big blow.  But we will have to get on with it, Westmeath and Carlow are still in the Liam Mc Carthy right?

Yes, along with Kerry and Laois.

TBH Antrim really shouldn't have any problems in the Christy Ring, Derry, Wicklow, Kildare and ourselves are the main threats.

Getting out of Div2A though is a bigger ask.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2015, 01:53:04 PM
the fixtures were done already were they not for our league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
Would anyone have them to post here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
Loving this new found sense of positivity  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 13, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Good Luck to PJ in his new position
He's the new Antrim manager so time to get right behind him
I read his article in the Irish News today and he's deffo going to give it his best shot and get all our best players on board
I hope all our good players get right behind him
With shorty out and MC Manus taking a sabatical its gonna be tough going for first year so we need to be patient
I hope if things are tough going that we won't be hearing any snide remarks like the last manager got

Antrim Abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 13, 2015, 02:37:08 PM
Good Luck to PJ in his new position
He's the new Antrim manager so time to get right behind him
I read his article in the Irish News today and he's deffo going to give it his best shot and get all our best players on board
I hope all our good players get right behind him
With shorty out and MC Manus taking a sabatical its gonna be tough going for first year so we need to be patient
I hope if things are tough going that we won't be hearing any snide remarks like the last manager got

Antrim Abu

Was this a dig NAH or was it just pure coincidence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 13, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
Yep, as ive said already, good luck to PJ and his backroom staff.

I hope he is given time to get Antrim going in the right direction, I have already said that if we don't win the Christy Ring and get promotion it will be a bad year, but if this happens i think PJ's position shouldn't be in question. (unless he make a right pigs ear of it, which i don't envisage)

i also hope the circus that is LW doesn't take over and distract PJ from his job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
Loving this new found sense of positivity  ;)
sure if you can't be positive and hope for a bit of success with a new man in. Why f**king bother??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 13, 2015, 02:58:14 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 13, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
Yep, as ive said already, good luck to PJ and his backroom staff.

I hope he is given time to get Antrim going in the right direction, I have already said that if we don't win the Christy Ring and get promotion it will be a bad year, but if this happens i think PJ's position shouldn't be in question. (unless he make a right pigs ear of it, which i don't envisage)

i also hope the circus that is LW doesn't take over and distract PJ from his job.

The Watson factor is what it is
He's been good at whinging via different media outlets about What he thinks is  wrong
Time to shut up and show us what he can do
Personally I think he has left a great future behind him but I would be delighted to proved wrong
Nag no digs
Managing Antrim is hard work with little reward so PJ needs everyone's support as did the last managers who tried there best

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
This thread will turn out to be a bit sit if we continually have this Loughgiel Cushendall tits for tats scenario
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 13, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
This thread will turn out to be a bit sit if we continually have this Loughgiel Cushendall tits for tats scenario

No it won't
Imm Dunloy and have no real beef with LG or CD
We should be able to discuss player selection and there possible impact
I hope PJ can bring MC Manus on board after Dalls all Ireland campaign
Think he has more to offer than watson
I also hope PJ can get more out of Eddie at county level to as he's one of our best club players
One things for sure he had my full support
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2015, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   

That's who I'm thinking about!! Blank canvas , new manager regardless of club affiliation, easier when its a Belfast man looking after the team believe  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
I've backed every Antrim manager as far back as I can remember, I've also said at times that there's only so much any one man can do.  In the end KR was the main reason behind his own downfall IMO.  If it comes down to it I'd rather just leave as get caught up in snide marks towards a hurling man with antrim at heart,  as I said.  He will approach every man good enough for the job.  He will approach everything from as professional a point as possible within our means,  and will leave no stone left unturned in trying to do what he feels best for Antrim. If he fails no doubt there will be a long line of bashers.  Part and partial to the job. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
I've backed every Antrim manager as far back as I can remember, I've also said at times that there's only so much any one man can do.  In the end KR was the main reason behind his own downfall IMO.  If it comes down to it I'd rather just leave as get caught up in snide marks towards a hurling man with antrim at heart,  as I said.  He will approach every man good enough for the job.  He will approach everything from as professional a point as possible within our means,  and will leave no stone left unturned in trying to do what he feels best for Antrim. If he fails no doubt there will be a long line of bashers.  Part and partial to the job.

Very easy to say that now after everything that has been said over the past year accusations flung at players and the nay sayer brigade standing in the back ground demeaning everything that was going on, despite the best efforts of all involved. Now suddenly because your man is in the hot seat you want to call for unity.

Now I've got that off my chest, I am an Antrim fan and I will be supporting the team as I have done all along.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
I've backed every Antrim manager as far back as I can remember, I've also said at times that there's only so much any one man can do.  In the end KR was the main reason behind his own downfall IMO.  If it comes down to it I'd rather just leave as get caught up in snide marks towards a hurling man with antrim at heart,  as I said.  He will approach every man good enough for the job.  He will approach everything from as professional a point as possible within our means,  and will leave no stone left unturned in trying to do what he feels best for Antrim. If he fails no doubt there will be a long line of bashers.  Part and partial to the job.

Very easy to say that now after everything that has been said over the past year accusations flung at players and the nay sayer brigade standing in the back ground demeaning everything that was going on, despite the best efforts of all involved. Now suddenly because your man is in the hot seat you want to call for unity.

Now I've got that off my chest, I am an Antrim fan and I will be supporting the team as I have done all along.
well I've always been an Antrim fan.  I just wasn't blind to the shite that went on!!!   Are we going down this road again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
its all Loughgiels fault again  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2015, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
Loving this new found sense of positivity  ;)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 13, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
I've backed every Antrim manager as far back as I can remember, I've also said at times that there's only so much any one man can do.  In the end KR was the main reason behind his own downfall IMO.  If it comes down to it I'd rather just leave as get caught up in snide marks towards a hurling man with antrim at heart,  as I said.  He will approach every man good enough for the job.  He will approach everything from as professional a point as possible within our means,  and will leave no stone left unturned in trying to do what he feels best for Antrim. If he fails no doubt there will be a long line of bashers.  Part and partial to the job.

Very easy to say that now after everything that has been said over the past year accusations flung at players and the nay sayer brigade standing in the back ground demeaning everything that was going on, despite the best efforts of all involved. Now suddenly because your man is in the hot seat you want to call for unity.

Now I've got that off my chest, I am an Antrim fan and I will be supporting the team as I have done all along.
100% nail on the head.

I too wish PJ all the best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 05:02:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 13, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 13, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 03:50:38 PM
I've backed every Antrim manager as far back as I can remember, I've also said at times that there's only so much any one man can do.  In the end KR was the main reason behind his own downfall IMO.  If it comes down to it I'd rather just leave as get caught up in snide marks towards a hurling man with antrim at heart,  as I said.  He will approach every man good enough for the job.  He will approach everything from as professional a point as possible within our means,  and will leave no stone left unturned in trying to do what he feels best for Antrim. If he fails no doubt there will be a long line of bashers.  Part and partial to the job.

Very easy to say that now after everything that has been said over the past year accusations flung at players and the nay sayer brigade standing in the back ground demeaning everything that was going on, despite the best efforts of all involved. Now suddenly because your man is in the hot seat you want to call for unity.

Now I've got that off my chest, I am an Antrim fan and I will be supporting the team as I have done all along.
100% nail on the head.

I too wish PJ all the best.
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 13, 2015, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2015, 01:53:04 PM
the fixtures were done already were they not for our league?


Derry Sun 14 Feb Away
Kildare Sun 21st Feb Home
Westmeath Sun 6th March Away
Carlow Sun 13 March Home
London Sun 20th March Away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 13, 2015, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 13, 2015, 01:53:04 PM
the fixtures were done already were they not for our league?


Derry Sun 14 Feb Away
Kildare Sun 21st Feb Home
Westmeath Sun 6th March Away
Carlow Sun 13 March Home
London Sun 20th March Away
winning 4 out of 5 would win it you'd think.   Westmeath away prob the hardest game there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   
so the fact that Kevin Ryan was a major flop was SG'S and my fault? Wind your neck in. I thought you'd a bit more gumption.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
Look lads, things got out of control under Ryan. He had a clique and stuck to it. He also did things that no county manager should get away with. You can  Believe it or not, I don't care. I'm glad to see the back of him and a new Antrim man in charge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Kevin Ryan for the loughgiel job anyone? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Kevin Ryan for the loughgiel job anyone? ;D
we are done and dusted now lad.  Dall boys have the bit between the teeth.  10 in a row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Kevin Ryan for the loughgiel job anyone? ;D
;D

well, at least he might show his face for a change.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 07:00:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Kevin Ryan for the loughgiel job anyone? ;D
we are done and dusted now lad.  Dall boys have the bit between the teeth.  10 in a row

What's the record for consecutive championships?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 07:00:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 13, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 13, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
Kevin Ryan for the loughgiel job anyone? ;D
we are done and dusted now lad.  Dall boys have the bit between the teeth.  10 in a row

What's the record for consecutive championships?
4. Done by Rossa, Dunloy and Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 13, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
For what it's worth I am glad PJ got the job. I'm far happier with an Antrim man in charge and he has had the sense to bring good hurling men with him. I don't like outside managers at either club or county level. I don't care what anyone says an outside manager is always there for one of 2 things, the brown envelope or personal progression. I want our best players, Loughgiel's best players and everyone else's best players lining out for Antrim. Ill be at as many matches as possible giving my support.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 13, 2015, 11:50:53 PM
yeah Ryan was a bit of a shambles I think, didn't like our style with him.  I have to say no matter what anyones view of PJ may be  !!!!!!!! he deserves a rip at the job
he landed the all Ireland club title with the shams and is a home town lad.  I just hope everyone buys In with Antrim now.  Realise a few lads are looking a year out for travelling that is  fair enough.  Just hope Graffin, McManus and whatever other major players... continue their commitment with the saffs  Is Michael Wing on his ticket

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 14, 2015, 07:40:42 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on November 13, 2015, 11:50:53 PM
yeah Ryan was a bit of a shambles I think, didn't like our style with him.  I have to say no matter what anyones view of PJ may be  !!!!!!!! he deserves a rip at the job
he landed the all Ireland club title with the shams and is a home town lad.  I just hope everyone buys In with Antrim now.  Realise a few lads are looking a year out for travelling that is  fair enough.  Just hope Graffin, McManus and whatever other major players... continue their commitment with the saffs  Is Michael Wing on his ticket
mickey isn't on the back room team. I posted it a few posts back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2015, 10:00:41 AM
Who's all in for the Loughgiel job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2015, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 13, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
For what it's worth I am glad PJ got the job. I'm far happier with an Antrim man in charge and he has had the sense to bring good hurling men with him. I don't like outside managers at either club or county level. I don't care what anyone says an outside manager is always there for one of 2 things, the brown envelope or personal progression. I want our best players, Loughgiel's best players and everyone else's best players lining out for Antrim. Ill be at as many matches as possible giving my support.

Never a truer word spoken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   
so the fact that Kevin Ryan was a major flop was SG'S and my fault? Wind your neck in. I thought you'd a bit more gumption.  ::)

I think you and other like minded people created a negative narrative in regard to KR. Once the negativity sets in its hard to shake off. I'd be worried that their might be other snipers ready to take aim if PJ's tenure hits a rocky patch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 15, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   
so the fact that Kevin Ryan was a major flop was SG'S and my fault? Wind your neck in. I thought you'd a bit more gumption.  ::)

I think you and other like minded people created a negative narrative in regard to KR. Once the negativity sets in its hard to shake off. I'd be worried that their might be other snipers ready to take aim if PJ's tenure hits a rocky patch.
We created a negative narrative? I don't think so Skull. Ryan  created the negative narrative by his own actions, and his actions alone. And I'm sure there are already snipers waiting in the wings to get at PJ. Both on here and in the ivory towers of the county board.

By the way, it's interesting how you selected SG and myself as the only people posting against Ryan's methods. There were plenty of others which you have chosen not to mention. Speaks volumes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 15, 2015, 04:35:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   
so the fact that Kevin Ryan was a major flop was SG'S and my fault? Wind your neck in. I thought you'd a bit more gumption.  ::)

I think you and other like minded people created a negative narrative in regard to KR. Once the negativity sets in its hard to shake off. I'd be worried that their might be other snipers ready to take aim if PJ's tenure hits a rocky patch.
for a man that's been around the block like yourself. I'd have thought maybe you'd no that it doesn't matter one f**k what anyone writes here or news papers or wherever.   Managers manage and players play. KR didn't do his job and that's why he's gone.  f**k all to do with SG or SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 16, 2015, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 13, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Will JJ and Megaman start to ape SIE and SG's sniping if things arent going well? I hope they'll not be a quick to drag things into the mire.   

And why would i do that anymore than your good self.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 06:08:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
and it was two lads saying this???   I've spoke to 90% of last years county team about the matter.  How's that??   I won't name names.  Fresh start and all that.  Anyone who's with the county this year will be pulling together, I asure you that. I hope Neill doesn't go traveling and hope he continues his recent form into the new year. All hands to the wheel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Loving this new optimism on this thread, Skull is right about the digs SG,it's a pity it took a Loughgiel man to take charge for you to admit Neil's value to the County team. Your best players are on the wain so him and Shorty are the only 2 go men in the forwards unfortunately and With Shorty out of the National League it will be very tough for us to win it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Loving this new optimism on this thread, Skull is right about the digs SG,it's a pity it took a Loughgiel man to take charge for you to admit Neil's value to the County team. Your best players are on the wain so him and Shorty are the only 2 go men in the forwards unfortunately and With Shorty out of the National League it will be very tough for us to win it.
I don't think anyone doubted he should be on the team, it was his influence with Ryan that was the problem. No one can doubt that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
not side swipes, facts. Not all dall men, one. Keep up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
not side swipes, facts. Not all dall men, one. Keep up.
It's absolutely natural for any manager of any team in any sport to use the senior players or captain as the key interface between management and players. Your clubmate you are all so sore about didn't have the personality required to attain this level of respect with any county manager. The fault of one player or multiple management teams over a number of years? I know where I'd put my money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
not side swipes, facts. Not all dall men, one. Keep up.
It's absolutely natural for any manager of any team in any sport to use the senior players or captain as the key interface between management and players. Your clubmate you are all so sore about didn't have the personality required to attain this level of respect with any county manager. The fault of one player or multiple management teams over a number of years? I know where I'd put my money.
is this the club mate I haven't mentioned on here in over two years? And when i did last mention i think i might have posted that that particular ship has sailed. You also need to keep up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
not side swipes, facts. Not all dall men, one. Keep up.
It's absolutely natural for any manager of any team in any sport to use the senior players or captain as the key interface between management and players. Your clubmate you are all so sore about didn't have the personality required to attain this level of respect with any county manager. The fault of one player or multiple management teams over a number of years? I know where I'd put my money.
is this the club mate I haven't mentioned on here in over two years? And when i did last mention i think i might have posted that that particular ship has sailed. You also need to keep up.
You don't need to mention him by name. He is the root of all the "swipes" mentioned above.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
Well there was a fair few side wipes at the dall mens influence on KR. Would like to see PJ have a chance to get everyone pulling together again.
not side swipes, facts. Not all dall men, one. Keep up.
It's absolutely natural for any manager of any team in any sport to use the senior players or captain as the key interface between management and players. Your clubmate you are all so sore about didn't have the personality required to attain this level of respect with any county manager. The fault of one player or multiple management teams over a number of years? I know where I'd put my money.
is this the club mate I haven't mentioned on here in over two years? And when i did last mention i think i might have posted that that particular ship has sailed. You also need to keep up.
You don't need to mention him by name. He is the root of all the "swipes" mentioned above.
You're a mind reader now too.  ;)

My gripe was how Kevin Ryan was treating my club, not just one hurler. I have posted about how he treated other hurlers as well. People choose to ignore that. Anyhow, he's gone. He got his money. Good riddance. Onwards and upwards, eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
I Don't understand your point SIE as your players still played all last year, both Chrissie and Clyde, and Eddie last year!! If they where so annoyed why not support their player/players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Loving this new optimism on this thread, Skull is right about the digs SG,it's a pity it took a Loughgiel man to take charge for you to admit Neil's value to the County team. Your best players are on the wain so him and Shorty are the only 2 go men in the forwards unfortunately and With Shorty out of the National League it will be very tough for us to win it.
ive never ever hid from the players ability. Top player,  Has been since he was 17/18.   It didn't take anything. I've said 100 times I've dealt in facts of the matter.  When a top player from a different club says regarding PJs appointment " I wonder how captain fantastic/trainer/manager will respond to this.   Says enough.  This isn't a loughgiel Cdall thing.  I respect the player   But things were done wrong on so many levels.  That's not saying it was all down to him or the manger.  On so so many levels.  You should try talking to some of the county players that aren't afraid to speak up.  If your in any way involved with any hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
These players spoke up to who?? You!!  Your quoting pure hearsay tbh, believe me I know what went on, your players attitude stunk end off!! Rightly or wrongly the panel and KR where trying to build a team spirit, hopefully now they can build that up and you lot will grow up!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
These players spoke up to who?? You!!  Your quoting pure hearsay tbh, believe me I know what went on, your players attitude stunk end off!! Rightly or wrongly the panel and KR where trying to build a team spirit, hopefully now they can build that up and you lot will grow up!!
you clearly no f**k all on the matter you fool.  I've spoke to the majority of last year and the year before panel.  And anything I've ever posted on here has been the truth on the matter.  How the hell are we suppose to try and move forward when you've clowns like yourself that no f**k all about what went on talking pure dung about it.   The harsh reality of the thing is.  I'd say the most of use horrible c***ts want to see the county fail because it's a loughgiel man in.   That should be enough to get me banned.   Severely sick of the shite I read from clueless idiots who wouldn't no what end of the hurl to hold.  Good Luck!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2015, 10:08:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
These players spoke up to who?? You!!  Your quoting pure hearsay tbh, believe me I know what went on, your players attitude stunk end off!! Rightly or wrongly the panel and KR where trying to build a team spirit, hopefully now they can build that up and you lot will grow up!!
you clearly no f**k all on the matter you fool.  I've spoke to the majority of last year and the year before panel.  And anything I've ever posted on here has been the truth on the matter.  How the hell are we suppose to try and move forward when you've clowns like yourself that no f**k all about what went on talking pure dung about it.   The harsh reality of the thing is.  I'd say the most of use horrible c***ts want to see the county fail because it's a loughgiel man in.   That should be enough to get me banned.   Severely sick of the shite I read from clueless idiots who wouldn't no what end of the hurl to hold.  Good Luck!!!


Relax lad. You'll do yourself an injury..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 16, 2015, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Loving this new optimism on this thread, Skull is right about the digs SG,it's a pity it took a Loughgiel man to take charge for you to admit Neil's value to the County team. Your best players are on the wain so him and Shorty are the only 2 go men in the forwards unfortunately and With Shorty out of the National League it will be very tough for us to win it.
pretty ignorant to our top scorer in Clarke last year no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 16, 2015, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
These players spoke up to who?? You!!  Your quoting pure hearsay tbh, believe me I know what went on, your players attitude stunk end off!! Rightly or wrongly the panel and KR where trying to build a team spirit, hopefully now they can build that up and you lot will grow up!!
you clearly no f**k all on the matter you fool.  I've spoke to the majority of last year and the year before panel.  And anything I've ever posted on here has been the truth on the matter.  How the hell are we suppose to try and move forward when you've clowns like yourself that no f**k all about what went on talking pure dung about it.   The harsh reality of the thing is.  I'd say the most of use horrible c***ts want to see the county fail because it's a loughgiel man in.   That should be enough to get me banned.   Severely sick of the shite I read from clueless idiots who wouldn't no what end of the hurl to hold.  Good Luck!!!
.  Big man has lost it. You won't have the time for on here now after getting the big job  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 10:15:16 PM
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

Very easy to find justification when it suits. I hope others don't follow this line and everyone gives PJ their support.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 10:33:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 16, 2015, 10:15:16 PM
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

Very easy to find justification when it suits. I hope others don't follow this line and everyone gives PJ their support.
facts are all there Skull.  I no them all inside out.  I'd love nothing more than all this to blow over and us as a county move forward together.   But it can't and won't!!!!   Congrats to Cdall by the way. Antrim and Ulster Champions. Do Ulster proud in February.    Wasn't to many posts like this when the Shamrocks were heading south. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2015, 10:43:36 PM
Seriously lads, get a fecking grip... Dall lads winding up Loughgiel men...

Nothing will ever make a difference to the Antrim set up on this forum... Never has never will, so reality check please... Calm down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
I Don't understand your point SIE as your players still played all last year, both Chrissie and Clyde, and Eddie last year!! If they where so annoyed why not support their player/players?
Eddie? All two games? Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 16, 2015, 10:44:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2015, 10:43:36 PM
Seriously lads, get a fecking grip... Dall lads winding up Loughgiel men...

Nothing will ever make a difference to the Antrim set up on this forum... Never has never will, so reality check please... Calm down
a bit of sense from the man in the middle for a change.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
How would you know my hurling Knowlege SG ? That's a stupid statement!!
Anyway, anyone heard any plans for training/trials? Start dates?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 16, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
How would you know my hurling Knowlege SG ? That's a stupid statement!!
Anyway, anyone heard any plans for training/trials? Start dates?
I've a fair idea by the dribble you talk. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 16, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 17, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
The Loughgiel lads getting a bit defensive!!! Some crazy statements!!! Get over yourselves ffs. The entire county is behind PJ's appointment, how could you possibly argue with the appointment of a man who took his club to an All Ireland and 4 Antrim and Ulster's in a row? We all want him to succeed, we want Antrim promoted and to win The Christy Ring. We want to compete at the top table. However if he doesn't succeed we are well within our rights to comment, complain, whatever. If we pay our money at the gate we are entitled to an opinion. The entire county wants to be successful. I don't care if the manager comes from Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle or The Shankill Road. Glad Ryan is gone, glad PJ is in. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2015, 09:29:11 AM
Can't put it any fairer than that JJ. From what I understand the entire county is happy with the appointment.

Having spoken to several people who managed county teams they all say the bit that hits them hardest and sometimes takes them completely by surprise is the level of abuse they get when things arnt going well. And I've been guilty of that too in the past.

No one in hurling circles is looking for a miracle. Good solid progress will keep 99% happy. A content squad sending out the right vibe will help too. Getting Antrim back - in both codes -will take time and lots of small steps needed first before anyone can start making large strides.

Patience is needed and lots of genuine goodwill. After all everyone here would love to see a great Antrim hurling team again. Good luck to all involved.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2015, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 17, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
The Loughgiel lads getting a bit defensive!!! Some crazy statements!!! Get over yourselves ffs. The entire county is behind PJ's appointment, how could you possibly argue with the appointment of a man who took his club to an All Ireland and 4 Antrim and Ulster's in a row? We all want him to succeed, we want Antrim promoted and to win The Christy Ring. We want to compete at the top table. However if he doesn't succeed we are well within our rights to comment, complain, whatever. If we pay our money at the gate we are entitled to an opinion. The entire county wants to be successful. I don't care if the manager comes from Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle or The Shankill Road. Glad Ryan is gone, glad PJ is in.
I'm only getting defensive because someone got their facts wrong.  I'm allowed to do that without ridicule. Surely? Again, don't lunp us all in together. It's lazy at best.  ;)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 17, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 17, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
The Loughgiel lads getting a bit defensive!!! Some crazy statements!!! Get over yourselves ffs. The entire county is behind PJ's appointment, how could you possibly argue with the appointment of a man who took his club to an All Ireland and 4 Antrim and Ulster's in a row? We all want him to succeed, we want Antrim promoted and to win The Christy Ring. We want to compete at the top table. However if he doesn't succeed we are well within our rights to comment, complain, whatever. If we pay our money at the gate we are entitled to an opinion. The entire county wants to be successful. I don't care if the manager comes from Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle or The Shankill Road. Glad Ryan is gone, glad PJ is in.

Careful JJ
That sounds like a fair and balanced perspective you have there
You have to be lambasting somebody on here even after there long gone
Try and get yourself one of those large chips on you shoulder
If some of the dall boys doesn't make the cut this year because they have the wrong attitude or just simply didn't fair well when tried. Get stuck in to the management
As a matter of fact blame everything on someone else bar your club and players
Then your in the zone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 17, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Antrim senior hurling management request the following from all clubs
1. Nominations for two open training days and two trial matches.
2. Clubs can nominate any player who they feel is entitled to have a chance at being part of the 2016 panel.
The two days open training will take place as follows
Saturday 21.11.15 – Armoy 10.00am start.
Sunday 22.11.15 – Jordanstown 10.00am start

Following on from the two open training sessions there will be two trial games held at Jordanstown on Tuesday 24.11.15 and Thursday 26.11.15 at 7.30pm. After this a panel will be picked for the upcoming Walsh cup and NHL.
Clubs are asked to forward all names to the email addresses below by 12.30pm on Friday 20.11.15 and advise the players of the above details. It is very important all players nominated make themselves available for the 4 sessions listed above
Paulgrahamd@gmail.com
Duffygavan@hotmail.com

ANTRIM SENIOR HURLING MANAGEMENT 14.11.15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 17, 2015, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 17, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 17, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
The Loughgiel lads getting a bit defensive!!! Some crazy statements!!! Get over yourselves ffs. The entire county is behind PJ's appointment, how could you possibly argue with the appointment of a man who took his club to an All Ireland and 4 Antrim and Ulster's in a row? We all want him to succeed, we want Antrim promoted and to win The Christy Ring. We want to compete at the top table. However if he doesn't succeed we are well within our rights to comment, complain, whatever. If we pay our money at the gate we are entitled to an opinion. The entire county wants to be successful. I don't care if the manager comes from Loughgiel, Dunloy, Ballycastle or The Shankill Road. Glad Ryan is gone, glad PJ is in.

Careful JJ
That sounds like a fair and balanced perspective you have there
You have to be lambasting somebody on here even after there long gone
Try and get yourself one of those large chips on you shoulder
If some of the dall boys doesn't make the cut this year because they have the wrong attitude or just simply didn't fair well when tried. Get stuck in to the management
As a matter of fact blame everything on someone else bar your club and players
Then your in the zone
"chirp, chirp"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
PJ should really go for youth.... The likes of coby from dunloy would be an excellent addition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
PJ should really go for youth.... The likes of coby from dunloy would be an excellent addition

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2015, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 17, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Antrim senior hurling management request the following from all clubs
1. Nominations for two open training days and two trial matches.
2. Clubs can nominate any player who they feel is entitled to have a chance at being part of the 2016 panel.
The two days open training will take place as follows
Saturday 21.11.15 – Armoy 10.00am start.
Sunday 22.11.15 – Jordanstown 10.00am start

Following on from the two open training sessions there will be two trial games held at Jordanstown on Tuesday 24.11.15 and Thursday 26.11.15 at 7.30pm. After this a panel will be picked for the upcoming Walsh cup and NHL.
Clubs are asked to forward all names to the email addresses below by 12.30pm on Friday 20.11.15 and advise the players of the above details. It is very important all players nominated make themselves available for the 4 sessions listed above
Paulgrahamd@gmail.com
Duffygavan@hotmail.com

ANTRIM SENIOR HURLING MANAGEMENT 14.11.15

Will dander down and watch these this games and trail on Sunday..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
PJ should really go for youth.... The likes of coby from dunloy would be an excellent addition

::)

are you rolling your eyes at the poster or the post?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
PJ should really go for youth.... The likes of coby from dunloy would be an excellent addition

::)

are you rolling your eyes at the poster or the post?

Both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2015, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it

Youth is great and dandy to have especially if they are gifted and strong... But have you seen the Carlow and Westmeath's lately ? big physical teams who have imposed their strength over us the last number of years as did Laois Kerry and the other middle tier teams... when down in that division you need a bitta steel.... let the lad develop at minor/under 21 before burning him out at senior.... No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it

Never denied that.

I rolled my eyes because you said our new manager should be looking at a first year minor.

That says a lot more about your understanding of senior inter county hurling than it does mine. Plus I do not want to get into discussing an u18 by name on here so this will be my last post on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
Maybe yes the young lad coby might be a bit young but ive got no doubt he can mix it down in them lower divisions along with a few other of them dunloy boys the likes of young molloy . Elliot(s) and Kinsella ... fair enough topic over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 17, 2015, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2015, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it

Youth is great and dandy to have especially if they are gifted and strong... But have you seen the Carlow and Westmeath's lately ? big physical teams who have imposed their strength over us the last number of years as did Laois Kerry and the other middle tier teams... when down in that division you need a bitta steel.... let the lad develop at minor/under 21 before burning him out at senior.... No?
That's correct
                   We have two guys on our panel last year, big enough but not mobile enough
I hope our new fitness trainer has separate programs between our smaller players and our large ones
Not much point in them going to the gym to beef up more
They a bit of mobility
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 17, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
Maybe yes the young lad coby might be a bit young but ive got no doubt he can mix it down in them lower divisions along with a few other of them dunloy boys the likes of young molloy . Elliot(s) and Kinsella ... fair enough topic over

Jesus lads, don't be kidding yourselves that you can experiment in Div2a with young lads and still come out with promotion. You'll need your best team on the field in most of those games as they won't be push overs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 17, 2015, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 17, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
Maybe yes the young lad coby might be a bit young but ive got no doubt he can mix it down in them lower divisions along with a few other of them dunloy boys the likes of young molloy . Elliot(s) and Kinsella ... fair enough topic over

Jesus lads, don't be kidding yourselves that you can experiment in Div2a with young lads and still come out with promotion. You'll need your best team on the field in most of those games as they won't be push overs.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 17, 2015, 03:14:44 PM
There is some great underage talent emerging in hurling in Antrim that does augur well. Probably best not to throw them in too early but make sure someone is looking after their S&C properly as well as the whole aspect of burnout. Those guys need nurtured through the next few years safely and allowed to physically develop properly. After that there could still be 10 years hurling in them for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2015, 09:55:34 AM
never seems to stop the other counties putting minors onto their panels and clubs in antrim playing them, but then again we know everything in antrim about a good county set up!

Bannside is correct in their post, these lads need looked after and filtered into the county set up. Their continued development at this level is important if we are hoping to keep them going into our county set up. That minor team were unlucky in the Dublin game, had they a full team out they might have beaten that dublin team. There wasnt much between the two teams.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 18, 2015, 09:55:34 AM
never seems to stop the other counties putting minors onto their panels and clubs in antrim playing them, but then again we know everything in antrim about a good county set up!

Bannside is correct in their post, these lads need looked after and filtered into the county set up. Their continued development at this level is important if we are hoping to keep them going into our county set up. That minor team were unlucky in the Dublin game, had they a full team out they might have beaten that dublin team. There wasnt much between the two teams.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2015, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it

Youth is great and dandy to have especially if they are gifted and strong... But have you seen the Carlow and Westmeath's lately ? big physical teams who have imposed their strength over us the last number of years as did Laois Kerry and the other middle tier teams... when down in that division you need a bitta steel.... let the lad develop at minor/under 21 before burning him out at senior.... No?

Hmmm  ::)  I think you'll find Bannside was repeating my post DR.... move on please nothing to see here  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 18, 2015, 11:21:43 AM
Some minors are up to the rigors of senior hurling and some need to fill out.

Other considerations are how many teams are they meant to turn out for? Talented dual players can get a pounding if not properly looked after by all who'd like a piece of them. In many cases I'd argue that those lads should be left to focus on their own age group for the majority of the season and see how the end of season fixtures pan out. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 18, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
I believe that antrim are missing the experience of some of the best hurlers in the county, for example the likes of decky McKay and 'bimbo' McMullan from rasharkin is what antrim needs to excell and to compete in the south!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2015, 12:10:29 PM
with respect to them pair mentioned they are decent hurlers at Div 3 level. saying they could just go and compete with teams down south is a bit much esp if they are coming up against teams like limerick, Clare, Kerry etc

Massive step up from playing O'Donnells, Na Magha etc and then those counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2015, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2015, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 18, 2015, 09:55:34 AM
never seems to stop the other counties putting minors onto their panels and clubs in antrim playing them, but then again we know everything in antrim about a good county set up!

Bannside is correct in their post, these lads need looked after and filtered into the county set up. Their continued development at this level is important if we are hoping to keep them going into our county set up. That minor team were unlucky in the Dublin game, had they a full team out they might have beaten that dublin team. There wasnt much between the two teams.


Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2015, 01:59:23 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 17, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
NAG1 what would you know about hurling coby is an excellent young hurler who starred for antrim minors and helped st Louis win a mageaan and played a significant part in the final scoring 1-4 from play... He would give any hurler the fill of it

Youth is great and dandy to have especially if they are gifted and strong... But have you seen the Carlow and Westmeath's lately ? big physical teams who have imposed their strength over us the last number of years as did Laois Kerry and the other middle tier teams... when down in that division you need a bitta steel.... let the lad develop at minor/under 21 before burning him out at senior.... No?

Hmmm  ::)  I think you'll find Bannside was repeating my post DR.... move on please nothing to see here  :P

:o didnt notice that, my bads  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: fatheadpg1 on November 18, 2015, 12:13:38 PM
dunloy r i see you point maybe a few years in division 2 might improve them as hurlers - would still have a few of those younger dunloy ones in about the panel in the next couple of years true hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 18, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 18, 2015, 12:10:29 PM
with respect to them pair mentioned they are decent hurlers at Div 3 level. saying they could just go and compete with teams down south is a bit much esp if they are coming up against teams like limerick, Clare, Kerry etc

Massive step up from playing O'Donnells, Na Magha etc and then those counties.

DR -  I suspect a WUM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2015, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: fatheadpg1 on November 18, 2015, 12:13:38 PM
dunloy r i see you point maybe a few years in division 2 might improve them as hurlers - would still have a few of those younger dunloy ones in about the panel in the next couple of years true hurlers

Its about getting the young lads into the development squads. Fellas from clubs like rasharkin etc and getting them committing to the dev squads will only improve them.
The clubs need to buy into this themselves and encourage the youngsters into the squads. That and improving the underage coaching is all vital for the youngsters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 18, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2015, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 18, 2015, 12:10:29 PM
with respect to them pair mentioned they are decent hurlers at Div 3 level. saying they could just go and compete with teams down south is a bit much esp if they are coming up against teams like limerick, Clare, Kerry etc

Massive step up from playing O'Donnells, Na Magha etc and then those counties.

DR -  I suspect a WUM

;D we can only but answer with reasoned responses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2015, 01:32:03 PM
Someone has found their way from hoganstand .... is that discussion board still going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
The best development squads we have - are called clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 18, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
I agree. Getting the clubs playing regular matches is the best thing we could do to improve the county team. Get every level and age group playing regular matches. Time for players to play more matches and do less training. Introduce new competitions if needs be. Underage hurlers need matches. We often have young lads on club minor teams training two or three times a week for a month without getting a match. Senior teams often face this issue as well. Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer. Players should have a match for every 2 training sessions but no more than 2 training sessions and 1 match a week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 18, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
I agree. Getting the clubs playing regular matches is the best thing we could do to improve the county team. Get every level and age group playing regular matches. Time for players to play more matches and do less training. Introduce new competitions if needs be. Underage hurlers need matches. We often have young lads on club minor teams training two or three times a week for a month without getting a match. Senior teams often face this issue as well. Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer. Players should have a match for every 2 training sessions but no more than 2 training sessions and 1 match a week.

Common sense - but where would this leave all the parasites taking endless sessions for different clubs to pay their mortgage.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2015, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
The best development squads we have - are called clubs.
PJ has already said in several interviews that he's not going to interfere with the clubs. Players will always be available to their clubs, makes a refreshing change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2015, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 18, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
I agree. Getting the clubs playing regular matches is the best thing we could do to improve the county team. Get every level and age group playing regular matches. Time for players to play more matches and do less training. Introduce new competitions if needs be. Underage hurlers need matches. We often have young lads on club minor teams training two or three times a week for a month without getting a match. Senior teams often face this issue as well. Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer. Players should have a match for every 2 training sessions but no more than 2 training sessions and 1 match a week.
+1.  Spoken like a real old timer  ;D. But 100% correct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2015, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
The best development squads we have - are called clubs.
PJ has already said in several interviews that he's not going to interfere with the clubs. Players will always be available to their clubs, makes a refreshing change.

Great.
To be honest my point was aimed at the bigger picture.
Underage development squads.
I'm not against them.
But - if a club has say 20 under X aged hurlers.
5 go the county "development" squad.
2/3 unavailable for whatever genuine reason.
This means about a dozen hurlers fail to be developed!
Matches & training called off for young lads because of players away training with county development squads! It's really quite insane! And it happens often due to overlapping ages & codes.
Magnify this across all the clubs and you have a lot of ids falling through the net at a young age.
Our playing pool dwindles rather than - develops.
I question if at these younger ages what is done at the county development squads is any different let alone better than what young hurlers can get at their local clubs.
So yet again, the bigger picture falls down at the behest of the guys involved with the "development" squads.
But then are the guys with the Antrim track suits & ties worried about the long term or the bigger picture?
Often not.
Often their little empire.

So at underage and senior - we must look at broadening the player base - rising tide lifts all boats and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on November 18, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
Devemopment squads  didnt harm  dublin hurling  too badly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 18, 2015, 10:33:13 PM
If we have the right talent that learn they can compete well at juvenile level down south it will help them compete better come senior.

Not that many matches affected by dev squads. Clubs should train away regardless but I'd agree that dev squads should be reliant on clubs doing the lions share of the player development. There are some players on squads who look badly short on stickwork though I presume as a result of poor basic coaching in their clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 18, 2015, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 18, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
Devemopment squads  didnt harm  dublin hurling  too badly


Another attempt to compare Dublin to Antrim.
I don't know why people persist in doing this.

Their development squads have as much in common with ours as their playing population - nothing.

I'm not against development squads.
But they could be run a lot better - and should without question be secondary to the club scene.
Too often they have been taken priority over clubs.
An absolutely scandalous situation.

If you want to compare anything with Dublin or any southern county - compare the number and quality of games played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
i will believe it when i see it about clubs coming first. Maybe then clubs wouldnt use the county as an excuse to call a game off due to them having a number of players involved in the county!

JJ i take slight issue with your point

Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer.

As someone who is into this now and does alot of training myself i follow a strict diet eating well, drink a tonne of water, protein/oats/creatine shakes and cutting down the amount i drink ive personally found it a massive improvement to my personal self. im 38 now and can work with more in the gym that i was able to 6 months ago and its all from working hard and looking after myself.

Yes hurling ability must be looked after as well, its of course the main point of the game itself, but the two have to go hand in hand with each other. Its a personal thing of course, you cant force players to do it but those who do train hard and eat well etc will be better physical athletes for it.

It is hard tho for younger lads who play minor and senior to try and keep it to a reasonable level without it getting out of control.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 19, 2015, 11:50:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 19, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
i will believe it when i see it about clubs coming first. Maybe then clubs wouldnt use the county as an excuse to call a game off due to them having a number of players involved in the county!

JJ i take slight issue with your point

Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer.

As someone who is into this now and does alot of training myself i follow a strict diet eating well, drink a tonne of water, protein/oats/creatine shakes and cutting down the amount i drink ive personally found it a massive improvement to my personal self. im 38 now and can work with more in the gym that i was able to 6 months ago and its all from working hard and looking after myself.

Yes hurling ability must be looked after as well, its of course the main point of the game itself, but the two have to go hand in hand with each other. Its a personal thing of course, you cant force players to do it but those who do train hard and eat well etc will be better physical athletes for it.

It is hard tho for younger lads who play minor and senior to try and keep it to a reasonable level without it getting out of control.

I think it is time that clubs grew up a bit in regard to this, even if you are missing 3/4/5 of you County players, accept it and get on with it all Div 1 teams can field a Senior team missing that level of players. So time to say I have 20 other guys here who need game time lets get on with it.

Realistically who cares about the league, I would see it as a challenge and a way to improve the club squad environment if I was looking after a senior outfit.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on November 19, 2015, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 19, 2015, 11:50:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 19, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
i will believe it when i see it about clubs coming first. Maybe then clubs wouldnt use the county as an excuse to call a game off due to them having a number of players involved in the county!

JJ i take slight issue with your point

Playing matches will improve your hurling far more than training, gym work, ice baths, standing in the fuckin sea, taking protein shakes, drinking powerade, following a diet or staying off the beer.

As someone who is into this now and does alot of training myself i follow a strict diet eating well, drink a tonne of water, protein/oats/creatine shakes and cutting down the amount i drink ive personally found it a massive improvement to my personal self. im 38 now and can work with more in the gym that i was able to 6 months ago and its all from working hard and looking after myself.

Yes hurling ability must be looked after as well, its of course the main point of the game itself, but the two have to go hand in hand with each other. Its a personal thing of course, you cant force players to do it but those who do train hard and eat well etc will be better physical athletes for it.

It is hard tho for younger lads who play minor and senior to try and keep it to a reasonable level without it getting out of control.

I think it is time that clubs grew up a bit in regard to this, even if you are missing 3/4/5 of you County players, accept it and get on with it all Div 1 teams can field a Senior team missing that level of players. So time to say I have 20 other guys here who need game time lets get on with it.

Realistically who cares about the league, I would see it as a challenge and a way to improve the club squad environment if I was looking after a senior outfit.

Exactly, the best way to deal with this is have a league split after say 2 rounds of games, thats 14 games that ahead no matter about county players etc. then top 4 and bottom 4 split, and bottom 4 play off for relegation and top 4 for the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
The games should be played regardless of who the county are playing. These are senior teams with reserve players. im constantly hearing about developing players at club level and all these reserve teams for blooding them in yet the first instance they think they could be missing a couple of the main players to the county they ask for games to be moved.

You have the farce that was the end of our league season where the last 3 were never played against Lgiel, St Galls or Bcastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 19, 2015, 01:23:50 PM
Lads,
  Christy Ring games are all on saturdays, so players can line out for their clubs on the Sunday like the Down clubs have been doing for several years now!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
Lol will believe it when i see it JC. Our clubs will use any excuse to get a game moved then moan that they dont get enough games.

The Down team got on with it this year, played on a sat and maybe lost a player to a knock of injury yet their clubs still played the net day. Im just a tad skeptical whether some will want games changed to suit them maybe losing a few players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 19, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
The easiest way to deal with it is to not to let the players play for their clubs.
It's really that simple.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 19, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
Think your simplifying the simplicity of it btdtgtt

For good will between both club and county coupled with player welfare there needs to be an understanding of what weekends will be affected and ensure those are limited to a minimum. To free that up, there would have to be a bottom 4/top 4 league playoffs. Difficult to know post championship how clubs would feel about that format. Might take a season or 2 to get used to and no doubt there'll be 'injustices' come about on the back of it. Anyone know how well that format is received in Down? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 19, 2015, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 19, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
The easiest way to deal with it is to not to let the players play for their clubs.
It's really that simple.

Watch the standard of club hurlingin the league dropping with the best hurlers not playing!

In fact we've noticed the impact of training without our county players in so much that the intensity and speed drops considerably, hence we want them to train with the club once a week when the club hurling starts.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 19, 2015, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 19, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
Think your simplifying the simplicity of it btdtgtt

For good will between both club and county coupled with player welfare there needs to be an understanding of what weekends will be affected and ensure those are limited to a minimum. To free that up, there would have to be a bottom 4/top 4 league playoffs. Difficult to know post championship how clubs would feel about that format. Might take a season or 2 to get used to and no doubt there'll be 'injustices' come about on the back of it. Anyone know how well that format is received in Down?

We just suck it up, but as a player who played in Athleague one day and Cushendall the next, its draining on you to say the least, but there's not a whole pile of alternatives out there.

Starred leagues, play offs have all been tried, but none were given the time of day. I even remember the top 4 play off thing where we beat Loughgeil in a semi-final in Casement and then got beat by Portaferry the week later also in Casement in the league final.
It wasn't the worst format in the world, but I think the powers that be in Antrim got blinkered by the fact that two Down clubs contested the final the only year it was run and didn't persist with it for the greater good. But you are talking league hurling in late October and November with the tail end of the Ulster club championship thrown in as I couldn't see it being fitted in before the Antrim championship begins.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on November 20, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

Surely now with Antrim in the Christy Ring and Div 2 the county can try and fix the football games for the weeks the county Hurlers play on the Saturday, ok its not always going to work but I'm sure this can be done to a certain extent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.


it happened last season to ourselves and the season before. the county game was a week a way and a club wouldnt play us due to them not wanting to play without their main players.

If the games are on a sat next season and a potential Div 1 league the next day its more or likely going to happen again.

All im saying is be prepared for it to happen more often.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.


it happened last season to ourselves and the season before. the county game was a week a way and a club wouldnt play us due to them not wanting to play without their main players.

If the games are on a sat next season and a potential Div 1 league the next day its more or likely going to happen again.

All im saying is be prepared for it to happen more often.

Do you think some clubs will not play games as their top (intercounty) players have played the day before and won't be fresh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
as i say, it happened last season past when the county wouldn't let them play a week before the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
as i say, it happened last season past when the county wouldn't let them play a week before the game.

Ah sure PJ won't be at that bullshittery! You'll be playing the day after a CR game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 11:37:03 AM
as i say, it happened last season past when the county wouldn't let them play a week before the game.

Ah sure PJ won't be at that bullshittery! You'll be playing the day after a CR game.

;D heres hoping
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 20, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
;D heres hoping

I'm sure a fair few county players who arrive home near midnight on the Saturday night wouldn't think that DR. We can't be blind to the fact that 2 games plus travel inside 24hrs is a recipe for soft tissue injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 20, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 20, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
;D heres hoping

I'm sure a fair few county players who arrive home near midnight on the Saturday night wouldn't think that DR. We can't be blind to the fact that 2 games plus travel inside 24hrs is a recipe for soft tissue injury.

Comes back to the clubs then and using common sense, seeing the bigger picture. I dont think if a player was coming tired and sore from a heavy game the day before than many managers wouldnt look and say take the day off this is a league game.

Fair enough I take the point that those scrapping to stay in the league may not take that view, but if they sort out the holiday/ stag party issues themselves first then they would be better placed through the whole season never mind their county player issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 20, 2015, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 20, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 20, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 02:07:40 PM
;D heres hoping

I'm sure a fair few county players who arrive home near midnight on the Saturday night wouldn't think that DR. We can't be blind to the fact that 2 games plus travel inside 24hrs is a recipe for soft tissue injury.

Comes back to the clubs then and using common sense, seeing the bigger picture. I dont think if a player was coming tired and sore from a heavy game the day before than many managers wouldnt look and say take the day off this is a league game.

Fair enough I take the point that those scrapping to stay in the league may not take that view, but if they sort out the holiday/ stag party issues themselves first then they would be better placed through the whole season never mind their county player issues.

Something we will just have to get on with where the resources of your squad will determine your standing in the league and if you end up in a relegation situation that's the level your club is at realistically. There's only so much can be done to accommodate and keep a reasonable length of season.  Otherwise we just forget intercounty hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 01:22:21 AM
I would like to thank all my friends and family and all of you who have wished me good luck and good wishes in my new post. I am and always will be a Loughgiel man. That i will cherish and honour til i die and instill in my family. I am and always will be indebted to my parents and my club. I have been lucky enough to manage the greatest group of players in my time in Loughgiel. I have been lucky to work with tbe greatest coach in my time in Antrim. I am glad i brought him to my club...Loughgiel shamrocks. I am hououred to think that other clubs think I am capable of manageing our County team. Whilst maybe not the most popular choice I will die trying to make Antrim a great and successful team. Whilst I am not the first choice of many...i was chosen...after two interviews. I ask my club..my friends...my foes and anyone interested in promoting Antrim hurling to give me and my team a chance. #BELIEVE  Pj O Mullan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 21, 2015, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 01:22:21 AM
I would like to thank all my friends and family and all of you who have wished me good luck and good wishes in my new post. I am and always will be a Loughgiel man. That i will cherish and honour til i die and instill in my family. I am and always will be indebted to my parents and my club. I have been lucky enough to manage the greatest group of players in my time in Loughgiel. I have been lucky to work with tbe greatest coach in my time in Antrim. I am glad i brought him to my club...Loughgiel shamrocks. I am hououred to think that other clubs think I am capable of manageing our County team. Whilst maybe not the most popular choice I will die trying to make Antrim a great and successful team. Whilst I am not the first choice of many...i was chosen...after two interviews. I ask my club..my friends...my foes and anyone interested in promoting Antrim hurling to give me and my team a chance. #BELIEVE  Pj O Mullan.

Perfect!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.
How many were there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men.
ah right. I heard there were about 30 there and something similar excused. They'll join through the rest of the week probably. Odds on a panel announcement next Saturday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men.
ah right. I heard there were about 30 there and something similar excused. They'll join through the rest of the week probably. Odds on a panel announcement next Saturday?
your Mr O Mullans mate. I wouldn't dare claim to no as much as you, but I do no there was a lot missing and there wasn't much done in way of talking, ball drills and out the gate. Weather wasn't permitting.  When I said poor I meant in terms of old faces, IF there was 30. That's not bad and hopefully the usual faces gets out when they can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men.
ah right. I heard there were about 30 there and something similar excused. They'll join through the rest of the week probably. Odds on a panel announcement next Saturday?
your Mr Mc Mullans mate. I wouldn't dare claim to no as much as you, but I do no there was a lot missing and there wasn't much done in way of talking, ball drills and out the gate. Weather wasn't permitting.  When I said poor I meant in terms of old faces, IF there was 30. That's not bad and hopefully the usual faces gets out when they can.
Mushy?   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men.
ah right. I heard there were about 30 there and something similar excused. They'll join through the rest of the week probably. Odds on a panel announcement next Saturday?
your Mr Mc Mullans mate. I wouldn't dare claim to no as much as you, but I do no there was a lot missing and there wasn't much done in way of talking, ball drills and out the gate. Weather wasn't permitting.  When I said poor I meant in terms of old faces, IF there was 30. That's not bad and hopefully the usual faces gets out when they can.
Mushy?   ;)
I've the feeling your taking me as a Wum?whats giving you that opinion. Afraid not mate.  Am a shamrock born and raised. Still living in loughgiel also. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:29:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2015, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 02:01:26 PM
First get together today and poor enough numbers truth be told.

Tomorrow at jordanstown??
this morning, as for numbers am not 100% sure but a poor turn out. A lot of valid excuses, early days. Lord Watson was there along with only 4 other Shamrocks. Only the 3 Ballycastle men.
ah right. I heard there were about 30 there and something similar excused. They'll join through the rest of the week probably. Odds on a panel announcement next Saturday?
your Mr Mc Mullans mate. I wouldn't dare claim to no as much as you, but I do no there was a lot missing and there wasn't much done in way of talking, ball drills and out the gate. Weather wasn't permitting.  When I said poor I meant in terms of old faces, IF there was 30. That's not bad and hopefully the usual faces gets out when they can.
Mushy?   ;)
I've the feeling your taking me as a Wum?whats giving you that opinion. Afraid not mate.  Am a shamrock born and raised. Still living in loughgiel also.
not at all. I'm just wondering what McMullan you think I'm mates with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 21, 2015, 04:48:32 PM
Lol. O.   O Mullan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2015, 05:06:52 PM
Wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to stand out in that day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 21, 2015, 05:51:02 PM
Is it to be as Baltic the morra?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 21, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
If only Dunsilly was ready with that under soil heating & roof over the pitch :)
A job for saffron vision ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 22, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Cdall v Sarsfields it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2015, 05:58:57 PM
Took a dander down today, fair fecks to all involved.. Weather was great though... Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 23, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
. Why who was told this and by who???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 23, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
. Why who was told this and by who???
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 23, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
. Why who was told this and by who???
By a member of last years management team to a couple of lads from our club, it would be the prevailing attitude in a number of circles in fairness. Doesnt seem a prerequisite in other counties though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 23, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
. Why who was told this and by who???
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 23, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 23, 2015, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 20, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 20, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 20, 2015, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 19, 2015, 11:04:38 PM
It's ok for some of u to say the league doesn't matter but that's only if ur at the top end of it! What about teams at the bottom of div1 /top of div 2?? Them playing a match without a couple of their best players could be the difference between promotion/relegation and the progression of their club! Clubs should have all their players for all games sure why would X y and z miss an important club game to sit on the bench for the county.

Thats my point. All this talk about 'we wont interfere with the clubs' nonsense falls to an arse at the first sight of a team thinking they have a chance to call a game off.

Clubs will look after their own interests first and foremost and if they have 2-3 main players in the team they will want to call a game off if its against a top/bottom team rival.

Then you will have people moan that there isnt enough games for our players to develop - again.

If the county senior team didn't interfere  with club fixtures - then why would any club be looking a match off?
I just really think that given the current level of our hurlers and the opposition we'll be up against - now more than ever is the time to give the club season some real unfettered life.
Noises are that PJ is open to this - it would be great to see - we have nothing to lose.
We've tried calling games off to wrap the county men in cotton wool for weeks before games - it hasn't worked.
Lets give it a go at playing our club season with real uninterrupted impetus - and see if that can in turn increase our playing pool.

Are you accepting that the intercounty hurlers may well end up playing two games in two days then?

I'm not oblivious to fixture issues.
What I mean is that a max of 18-20 hurlers are involved in say a CR game v Kildare on a Saturday. Clubs effected could play the Wednesday before or the Monday after - a bit like soccer does with European fixtures.
Sure, there may be once or twice daylight doesn't permit this.
So maybe some guys might have 2 games in 2 days once or twice the whole year. Their clubs might voluntarily rest them!
But the point is that this is rare - so the huge majority of playing population with clubs does not come to a standstill for 18-20 to go to Kildare.
It's the bigger picture - broadening the player base my broadening the amount of competitive hurling for everyone.

I see Glenmore are through to a Leinster Junior final with Ger Aylward in good scoring form, what does this say for lads in Antrim being told that if they are not playing at senior Div 1 level they cant expect to progress in intercounty hurling.
. Why who was told this and by who???
By a member of last years management team to a couple of lads from our club, it would be the prevailing attitude in a number of circles in fairness. Doesnt seem a prerequisite in other counties though.

Other county junior teams would give div 1 Antrim teams a decent game, plus a lot of these lads are playing decent school and university level hurling... But I know what you mean Last man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 23, 2015, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 22, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Cdall v Sarsfields it is
February 6th I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on November 23, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
How are Glenmore a junior team? They were winning Kilkenny senior championships 20 years ago. A lot of teams in various counties drop down one grade to have a crack at an all ireland but two grades is a bit much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 24, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 23, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
How are Glenmore a junior team? They were winning Kilkenny senior championships 20 years ago. A lot of teams in various counties drop down one grade to have a crack at an all ireland but two grades is a bit much.


How do you know what problems the club has had? How do you know they've dropped 2 grades to have a crack at an All Ireland JHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 24, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 23, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
How are Glenmore a junior team? They were winning Kilkenny senior championships 20 years ago. A lot of teams in various counties drop down one grade to have a crack at an all ireland but two grades is a bit much.

They dropped to intermediate a few years ago and then were demoted to junior last year. Its not the same in antrim as kilkenny. They have a promotion and relegation in each grade due to the number of teams and the skill level being much higher.

Glenmore lost their senior status in 2005, losing out in a relegation play-off against Fenians.

In 2014, Glenmore lost their Intermediate Status losing in a relegation play off to Conahy Shamrocks by 2-22 to 3-16. This was a bitter blow for a famous club who not so long ago were a force to be reckoned with at the top table of Club Hurling both in Kilkenny and on the National Stage.

You cant compare antrim and kilkenny junior club hurling. Bennettsbridge won it last year and went on to win the all ireland that year and have just won this years intermediate title for the first time. this is a club that boast Noel Skehan as a former keeper.

The standard of club hurling is much higher and is far more competitive. Its hurling first and foremost. Football is a non event.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 24, 2015, 09:36:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 23, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
How are Glenmore a junior team? They were winning Kilkenny senior championships 20 years ago. A lot of teams in various counties drop down one grade to have a crack at an all ireland but two grades is a bit much.

They dropped to intermediate a few years ago and then were demoted to junior last year. Its not the same in antrim as kilkenny. They have a promotion and relegation in each grade due to the number of teams and the skill level being much higher.


That puts Creggan's achievement in perspective.

Glenmore lost their senior status in 2005, losing out in a relegation play-off against Fenians.

In 2014, Glenmore lost their Intermediate Status losing in a relegation play off to Conahy Shamrocks by 2-22 to 3-16. This was a bitter blow for a famous club who not so long ago were a force to be reckoned with at the top table of Club Hurling both in Kilkenny and on the National Stage.

You cant compare antrim and kilkenny junior club hurling. Bennettsbridge won it last year and went on to win the all ireland that year and have just won this years intermediate title for the first time. this is a club that boast Noel Skehan as a former keeper.

The standard of club hurling is much higher and is far more competitive. Its hurling first and foremost. Football is a non event.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: Last Man on November 24, 2015, 09:36:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 23, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
How are Glenmore a junior team? They were winning Kilkenny senior championships 20 years ago. A lot of teams in various counties drop down one grade to have a crack at an all ireland but two grades is a bit much.

They dropped to intermediate a few years ago and then were demoted to junior last year. Its not the same in antrim as kilkenny. They have a promotion and relegation in each grade due to the number of teams and the skill level being much higher.


That puts Creggan's achievement in perspective.

Glenmore lost their senior status in 2005, losing out in a relegation play-off against Fenians.

In 2014, Glenmore lost their Intermediate Status losing in a relegation play off to Conahy Shamrocks by 2-22 to 3-16. This was a bitter blow for a famous club who not so long ago were a force to be reckoned with at the top table of Club Hurling both in Kilkenny and on the National Stage.

You cant compare antrim and kilkenny junior club hurling. Bennettsbridge won it last year and went on to win the all ireland that year and have just won this years intermediate title for the first time. this is a club that boast Noel Skehan as a former keeper.

The standard of club hurling is much higher and is far more competitive. Its hurling first and foremost. Football is a non event.

It really does Last Man, Creggan's achievement was massive and they have moved on as such and kick on a gear as too have Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............

Heard that myself. Disappointing but maybe inevitable when still reliant on guys like PD and Kieran Killyleagh - fantastic role models but nothing coming to step into their shoes.
Any further news on management changes?
Have heard little happening at Sarsfields whilst predictably St Johns will be sticking and Rossa will be changing.
SiE and SG any progress on the big job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............

Would sincerely hope we stay at Senior... we have about 5 decent young hurlers who could keep us going for a while yet until the younger younger generation make it past minor... I'd be happy if we keep trying.... new manager on the horizon too for both teams so, be interesting to see what happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............

Would sincerely hope we stay at Senior... we have about 5 decent young hurlers who could keep us going for a while yet until the younger younger generation make it past minor... I'd be happy if we keep trying.... new manager on the horizon too for both teams so, be interesting to see what happens

Any idea on your management setup - Maybe that will decide championship tier or club committee?
Do you see any change in the dual balance with your footballers loss this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
Nope, the club is a footballing first hurling second club... we are dual but preference will (from my view unfortunately) will be football...... success dictates a lot of things... but we'll see... Only one person springing to my mind that may be interested in the hurling, as for the football, we may stay in house.. who knows?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 24, 2015, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............

Heard that myself. Disappointing but maybe inevitable when still reliant on guys like PD and Kieran Killyleagh - fantastic role models but nothing coming to step into their shoes.
Any further news on management changes?
Have heard little happening at Sarsfields whilst predictably St Johns will be sticking and Rossa will be changing.
SiE and SG any progress on the big job?
it's complicated. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just how are the smaller clubs expected to progress with a seeded draw. There's not much incentive in staying senior if ur gettin hammered in the first round every year. The one year there was a draw that gave the smaller clubs all something to play for sure didn't the 'big clubs' shite themselves and the draw got changed to a seeded one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just how are the smaller clubs expected to progress with a seeded draw. There's not much incentive in staying senior if ur gettin hammered in the first round every year. The one year there was a draw that gave the smaller clubs all something to play for sure didn't the 'big clubs' shite themselves and the draw got changed to a seeded one.

I agree with the seeded draw to be fair.

I think it's a better ambition/incentive to progress yourself against a top team and even cause a shock - that it's is to hope for a soft miracle draw like 2014.

Also - Loughgiel didn't give St Galls the hammering anyone may have thought!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just how are the smaller clubs expected to progress with a seeded draw. There's not much incentive in staying senior if ur gettin hammered in the first round every year. The one year there was a draw that gave the smaller clubs all something to play for sure didn't the 'big clubs' shite themselves and the draw got changed to a seeded one.

I agree with the seeded draw to be fair.

I think it's a better ambition/incentive to progress yourself against a top team and even cause a shock - that it's is to hope for a soft miracle draw like 2014.

Also - Loughgiel didn't give St Galls the hammering anyone may have thought!

I know u can't expect that sort of draw every year but perhaps they should change the format to something like the derry football championship were every team is guaranteed two games. Sometimes all a team needs is that first win to give them the confidence to go further aka monkey off the back.
Also on the suiting the big clubs issue no promotion from division 2 this year was an absolute joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 08:54:59 PM
No promotion from a league - was indeed an absolute joke.
I still believe we should play the leagues off and top 4 seeded for semis.
Therefore league becomes meaningful and in essence a pseudo championship.
But that would require club fixtures to be unhindered by county teams ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 24, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just how are the smaller clubs expected to progress with a seeded draw. There's not much incentive in staying senior if ur gettin hammered in the first round every year. The one year there was a draw that gave the smaller clubs all something to play for sure didn't the 'big clubs' shite themselves and the draw got changed to a seeded one.

Unless they seed it like the football last year where it's seeded but it's not :-[

More games might mean some championship hurling in the summer. Both football and hurling start far too late in antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 25, 2015, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 24, 2015, 07:02:02 PM
Just how are the smaller clubs expected to progress with a seeded draw. There's not much incentive in staying senior if ur gettin hammered in the first round every year. The one year there was a draw that gave the smaller clubs all something to play for sure didn't the 'big clubs' shite themselves and the draw got changed to a seeded one.

I agree with the seeded draw to be fair.

I think it's a better ambition/incentive to progress yourself against a top team and even cause a shock - that it's is to hope for a soft miracle draw like 2014.

Also - Loughgiel didn't give St Galls the hammering anyone may have thought!

Your big fella McGourty in full back that day played a blinder, I wonder was he at the Antrim trials.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............


Its all very well clubs dropping down to give themselves a sense of achievement, but what about the Junior clubs? they have nowhere else to drop down to. I think its the job of the CB to put an end to allowing people to cherry pick their championship as very rarely people will decide to pick to go up therefor the whole process systematically leads to regression. I have a feeling though the CB allow this as it gives them stronger representation in Ulster/ All Ireland from clubs who decide to drop down a level to compete.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 25, 2015, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............


Its all very well clubs dropping down to give themselves a sense of achievement, but what about the Junior clubs? they have nowhere else to drop down to. I think its the job of the CB to put an end to allowing people to cherry pick their championship as very rarely people will decide to pick to go up therefor the whole process systematically leads to regression. I have a feeling though the CB allow this as it gives them stronger representation in Ulster/ All Ireland from clubs who decide to drop down a level to compete.


Look at the clubs in the last few years that have been accused of cherry picking their championships on here or on other forums,


Lamh Dhearg JHC last year- Didn't win it.
Glenravel JFC 2012 & last year - Didn't win it
Moneyglass IFC last year- Didn't win it.

Clearly these clubs were at their level of playing these competitions and factors within the club dictated them doing so.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2015, 09:22:27 AM
For clubs who've typically been successful at junior/intermediatte level, it must take great leadership to convince a team/club going forward that its better to be competing in the senior championship than winning intermediate. Fair play to the likes of Rossa and St Johns ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 25, 2015, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............


Its all very well clubs dropping down to give themselves a sense of achievement, but what about the Junior clubs? they have nowhere else to drop down to. I think its the job of the CB to put an end to allowing people to cherry pick their championship as very rarely people will decide to pick to go up therefor the whole process systematically leads to regression. I have a feeling though the CB allow this as it gives them stronger representation in Ulster/ All Ireland from clubs who decide to drop down a level to compete.


Look at the clubs in the last few years that have been accused of cherry picking their championships on here or on other forums,


Lamh Dhearg JHC last year- Didn't win it.
Glenravel JFC 2012 & last year - Didn't win it
Moneyglass IFC last year- Didn't win it.

Clearly these clubs were at their level of playing these competitions and factors within the club dictated them doing so.

Nice Cherry picked answers also don't have much time here but Davitts in JFC a few times recently Ahoghill in JFC 2007 Rossa IHC Hurling 2014
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 08:54:59 PM
No promotion from a league - was indeed an absolute joke.
I still believe we should play the leagues off and top 4 seeded for semis.
Therefore league becomes meaningful and in essence a pseudo championship.
But that would require club fixtures to be unhindered by county teams ;)

Please no!!!  ;D

we did that once and we lost one game all year and it was the county final. Thats too hard to stomach again.

Its a nice idea but it taks away from that one glory day of an upset for a club. I like the open draw system, there are no dead rubber games, its all or nothing on the day. One slip and your out and thats the way it should be. No back door, no second chance, gone. End of.

With us being a seeded club i dont see the point to it. Im happy to draw Cdall, Lgiel, St Galls etc in the first round. Your going to have to beat some of these clubs at some point to win the championship so its beat them at the start or the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 25, 2015, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 25, 2015, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on November 25, 2015, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 24, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 24, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I think thats just fanciful thinking there folks. Teams in KK dont want to drop down, they get relegated if they aint up to the standard. No club wants to drop down in KK. Rossa were a senior club that dropped down by their own doings and won the intermediate championship at a canter in antrim and ulster.

Im not making little of Rossas achievement on winning an all ireland, it was an unreal achievement and something they should be extremely proud of.

Clubs in antrim decide if they want to stay in a championship. Cloughmills came up to senior, gave it a go, didnt progress and dropped back down again. I would of liked to see them stick at it and keep going in it. Same with Ahoghill. I hope that Creggan will give it a real go and stick at senior as well. it can only be good for our club game with more teams competing for the Vol cup. Upsets happen in championship hurling!

Totally agree with your points here. Clubs in Antrim are continually pondering what cship to enter rather than fighting hard to be the best they can and not dropping down. Our structure doesn't help them obviously with no relegation play offs etc. I have always felt that this would eb a good idea but then clubs might start throwing these games so they could move down, you cant win. Main point is that in KK they all want to be at the top table.

MR2, whats St Galls plans for cship 2016? Remain senior or drop down? I have the same question for anyone from Ahoghill on here?

I'm hearing St Pauls are entering JHC, what about Cushendun and Armoy, will they also enter the junior competition?? So many possibilities............


Its all very well clubs dropping down to give themselves a sense of achievement, but what about the Junior clubs? they have nowhere else to drop down to. I think its the job of the CB to put an end to allowing people to cherry pick their championship as very rarely people will decide to pick to go up therefor the whole process systematically leads to regression. I have a feeling though the CB allow this as it gives them stronger representation in Ulster/ All Ireland from clubs who decide to drop down a level to compete.


Look at the clubs in the last few years that have been accused of cherry picking their championships on here or on other forums,


Lamh Dhearg JHC last year- Didn't win it.
Glenravel JFC 2012 & last year - Didn't win it
Moneyglass IFC last year- Didn't win it.

Clearly these clubs were at their level of playing these competitions and factors within the club dictated them doing so.

Nice Cherry picked answers also don't have much time here but Davitts in JFC a few times recently Ahoghill in JFC 2007 Rossa IHC Hurling 2014

Those were off the top of my head.. Also time is an issue here,

I'll give you Rossa 2014 but surely Davitts are a Div 3 club so therefore entitled to play JFC?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 25, 2015, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 25, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 24, 2015, 08:54:59 PM
No promotion from a league - was indeed an absolute joke.
I still believe we should play the leagues off and top 4 seeded for semis.
Therefore league becomes meaningful and in essence a pseudo championship.
But that would require club fixtures to be unhindered by county teams ;)

Please no!!!  ;D

we did that once and we lost one game all year and it was the county final. Thats too hard to stomach again.

Its a nice idea but it taks away from that one glory day of an upset for a club. I like the open draw system, there are no dead rubber games, its all or nothing on the day. One slip and your out and thats the way it should be. No back door, no second chance, gone. End of.

With us being a seeded club i dont see the point to it. Im happy to draw Cdall, Lgiel, St Galls etc in the first round. Your going to have to beat some of these clubs at some point to win the championship so its beat them at the start or the final.

I agree no back door!
Once the league is finished in say September - the championship would be straight knockout.
The seeding would come from the league just finished.
So clubs would be genuinely competing in a more meaningful league - to get a favourable champuionship draw.
But once the draw is made - it pure knock out with upsets there to be made!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
Ive always liked the idea of a promotion/relegation in the championship. Say the winners of the intermediate go striaght up with the losers to have a play off with the team that won the relegation play offs in the senior e.g Cloney v St.Galls with the senior loser going down straight away. The winner of the play off plays the beaten intermediate finalists (Carey) to see who went where.

It might not work straight away but it would give an added interest in the season for teams to want to remain in the senior championship as opposed to just deciding to drop out.

It could be implemented into the intermediate/junior as well. Clubs with real ambition would be rewarded with the chance to go up a level. I know that Glenmore were extremly disappointed to drop to junior from reading up on it. Christy heffernan himself was interviewed after they won the junior and they were overjoyed at getting back to the intermediate championship again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2015, 12:00:52 PM
Would many intermediate final losers want to move up to senior without having a bit of silverware at the dinner dance? I'd doubt it as many will want the provincial/all ireland campaign beforehand.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on November 25, 2015, 06:19:24 PM
Clubs are NOT ALLOWED to drop down a championship if they feel like lifting an easy championship. The championship your club plays in, is based on the league you play in, or higher If you elect to move up.

Division one teams play Senior (not allowed any lower championship)
Division two play intermediate or Senior Championship (not allowed junior)
Division three play Junior, intermediate or Senior (not allowed to enter junior b)
Division four play junior b, junior, intermediate or senior.

In short, a division four team is allowed to enter the senior championship and there is nothing to stop them. No team is allowed to cherry pick a lower championship as has been suggested on here.

St Pauls have been relegated out of division two and have been struggling this last 3/4 years. From what I hear they are struggling to get a team out on the pitch. They will be playing Junior championship as that is the level they are now playing in the league next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 25, 2015, 09:34:38 PM
It's a fair point bonamargey.
We might think along the lines of "dropping down" but in reality it's a club's actual results that permit them to "drop down" and not our perception of where they traditionally should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 26, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
Better numbers at training tonight.  Panel will be named tomorrow.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 27, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 27, 2015, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 27, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
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A good squad to start off with. Undoubtedly strengthened when the Cushendall and Creggan boys return along with the injured players. Also a refreshing attitude from the management team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 07:30:53 PM
Certainly is. He would be one of the best 6 forwards in the county for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 28, 2015, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.

Benny McCarry no interest in playing for the county?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 28, 2015, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.

Benny McCarry no interest in playing for the county?
I don't know if he's fit yet or not. I suppose if he gets up to speed and is playing well he'll maybe get a call up. Same as everyone else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2015, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 28, 2015, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.

Benny McCarry no interest in playing for the county?
I don't know if he's fit yet or not. I suppose if he gets up to speed and is playing well he'll maybe get a call up. Same as everyone else.


Shorty McManus Eddie

Clarke Watson McAfee

What a set of forwards that would be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 28, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2015, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 28, 2015, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.

Benny McCarry no interest in playing for the county?
I don't know if he's fit yet or not. I suppose if he gets up to speed and is playing well he'll maybe get a call up. Same as everyone else.


Shorty McManus Eddie

Clarke Watson McAfee

What a set of forwards that would be
I'd say we could be for seeing Watson around midfield,  Conor Johnson and Clarke inside along with another would be nice full forward line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 29, 2015, 07:21:24 AM
We need him close enough to the posts to score regularly. Others can do the donkey work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 29, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 29, 2015, 07:21:24 AM
We need him close enough to the posts to score regularly. Others can do the donkey work.
well three games have been played he's been midfield in the three of them.  Not much to go on I no.  Time will tell. I wonder what dall men will be avalible. With the talk of graffin and Neill traveling.  Massive boots to fill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Hopefully Campbell and McCambridge at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Hopefully Campbell and McCambridge at least.
I'd like to think there'd be at least 4 or 5 dall men to return.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on November 29, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Hopefully Campbell and McCambridge at least.
I'd like to think there'd be at least 4 or 5 dall men to return.
no graffin no Shane no Neill.  Name your 5. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
mc cambridge. Campbell. Burke. Mc gill   Of the top of my head.  On this years performances    Graffin and Neill will be massive lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 04:00:43 PM
I'd like to see Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague in there too. Couldn't a player like Saul be accommodated? He's worth it. Even if he could make a session a week or the like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 04:03:16 PM
For what it's worth (feck all) my 6 forwards would be McManus, Shorty, Clarke, McCarry, Watson, Saul ....all being fit and available
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 29, 2015, 04:00:43 PM
I'd like to see Nigel Elliott and Nicky McKeague in there too. Couldn't a player like Saul be accommodated? He's worth it. Even if he could make a session a week or the like.
I believe it's his choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 29, 2015, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
mc cambridge. Campbell. Burke. Mc gill   Of the top of my head.  On this years performances    Graffin and Neill will be massive lost.
what he said big pat.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 01, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Tougher sessions there tonight.Great numbers, even lads who can't train showing up. Big Pj is very well organized il give him that. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 01, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 01, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Tougher sessions there tonight.Great numbers, even lads who can't train showing up. Big Pj is very well organized il give him that.
bigpat you seem to be very well informed. Are you involved or is everything just 2nd hand info.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 01, 2015, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 01, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 01, 2015, 10:26:20 PM
Tougher sessions there tonight.Great numbers, even lads who can't train showing up. Big Pj is very well organized il give him that.
bigpat you seem to be very well informed. Are you involved or is everything just 2nd hand info.
am injured  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 02, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.

You're joking? When he's fully fit he's a quality player. Was he at the trials?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 02, 2015, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 02, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.

You're joking? When he's fully fit he's a quality player. Was he at the trials?
anyone could have went to the trials.  Maybe when club hurling starts he'll get called up if fully fit and preforming like he can. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 02, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Delighted for our Club mate Neil McManus on his Replacement All Star award. Congratulations Neil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2015, 10:18:37 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 02, 2015, 09:59:03 PM
Delighted for our Club mate Neil McManus on his Replacement All Star award. Congratulations Neil

Indeed. Congratulations!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 02, 2015, 10:21:40 PM
Replacement all star but not nominated for an all star ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2015, 02:09:27 AM
Ok firstly. Well done Neil. Nice to see another Antrim man get a replacement.  Can I ask how tho?  Last year was antrims worst year in my time,  and was Neil's worst year in an Antrim jersey since he was 18 IMO. Injured at least twice and didnt stand out much,  that's not being nasty.  That's the facts of the matter.   Club championship onwards he has been a completely different animal altogether, is this picked on years gone by or what?  For me Clarke was Antrims best hurler all year. If it was on a yearly basis and the powers that be wanted to promote hurling in Ulster/Antrim then surely the best we had last year was ciaran or maybe even Neil Mc Auley,  anyways. well done again.  All the lads that love to mix will see this as a loughgiel Cdall thing instead of a honest point/question. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 03, 2015, 08:42:32 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2015, 02:09:27 AM
Ok firstly. Well done Neil. Nice to see another Antrim man get a replacement.  Can I ask how tho?  Last year was antrims worst year in my time,  and was Neil's worst year in an Antrim jersey since he was 18 IMO. Injured at least twice and didnt stand out much,  that's not being nasty.  That's the facts of the matter.   Club championship onwards he has been a completely different animal altogether, is this picked on years gone by or what?  For me Clarke was Antrims best hurler all year. If it was on a yearly basis and the powers that be wanted to promote hurling in Ulster/Antrim then surely the best we had last year was ciaran or maybe even Neil Mc Auley,  anyways. well done again.  All the lads that love to mix will see this as a loughgiel Cdall thing instead of a honest point/question.

Nope, while delighted for Neill, totally agree with what youve said.

This has happened on a few occasions with regards Antrim Hurlers and getting All Star Replacements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on December 03, 2015, 08:55:23 AM
Lads juts out of interest who in your opinion would be the up and coming young coaches/ managers in Antrim ? And what teams are they helping out with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 03, 2015, 09:05:24 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 28, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 28, 2015, 02:34:36 PM
Is there a reason Saul Mc Caughan isn't there?
Working in Omagh and can't travel over in time from what I hear. He's a big loss.

You'd imagine if he can't make Antrim training etc he'll not make Ballycastle either or is there a dispensation being made for him club wise?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 03, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2015, 02:09:27 AM
Ok firstly. Well done Neil. Nice to see another Antrim man get a replacement.  Can I ask how tho?  Last year was antrims worst year in my time,  and was Neil's worst year in an Antrim jersey since he was 18 IMO. Injured at least twice and didnt stand out much,  that's not being nasty.  That's the facts of the matter.   Club championship onwards he has been a completely different animal altogether, is this picked on years gone by or what?  For me Clarke was Antrims best hurler all year. If it was on a yearly basis and the powers that be wanted to promote hurling in Ulster/Antrim then surely the best we had last year was ciaran or maybe even Neil Mc Auley,  anyways. well done again.  All the lads that love to mix will see this as a loughgiel Cdall thing instead of a honest point/question.

I'd say its just the usual token gesturism from Croke Park, all star replacement needed, lets give one to Antrim, promoting hurling up there and all that, who's the highest profile hurler, Neil McManus, that'll do lovely.

Don't get me wrong, Neil is a fantastic hurler on his day, but just using that as an example of how things are done in Croke Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2015, 09:19:53 AM
Maybe doing almost every single media interview going got the attention of the southern media when they were looking for a token gesture to ulster hurling?
Glad to see some recognition - but agree maybe Neil McAuley might have been more fitting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 03, 2015, 09:21:41 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 03, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 03, 2015, 02:09:27 AM
Ok firstly. Well done Neil. Nice to see another Antrim man get a replacement.  Can I ask how tho?  Last year was antrims worst year in my time,  and was Neil's worst year in an Antrim jersey since he was 18 IMO. Injured at least twice and didnt stand out much,  that's not being nasty.  That's the facts of the matter.   Club championship onwards he has been a completely different animal altogether, is this picked on years gone by or what?  For me Clarke was Antrims best hurler all year. If it was on a yearly basis and the powers that be wanted to promote hurling in Ulster/Antrim then surely the best we had last year was ciaran or maybe even Neil Mc Auley,  anyways. well done again.  All the lads that love to mix will see this as a loughgiel Cdall thing instead of a honest point/question.

I'd say its just the usual token gesturism from Croke Park, all star replacement needed, lets give one to Antrim, promoting hurling up there and all that, who's the highest profile hurler, Neil McManus, that'll do lovely.

These two posts describe this whole thing in a nutshell. I'm sure Neil is maybe even a bit embarrassed by it, knowing that he himself did not have the best year in a saffron gansai.

Don't get me wrong, Neil is a fantastic hurler on his day, but just using that as an example of how things are done in Croke Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
Obviously people have pulled out hence the late call up & others were maybe unavailable to go through work (getting time off work) or family commitments. Maybe Neal McA was asked but couldn't go cos he has 2 young kids....we'll never know.

More than likely its what JC said about Croke Park & promoting Hurling

For Neil it's a free holiday, happy days! But it's not something we should get too worked up about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 03, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 03, 2015, 09:35:26 AM
Obviously people have pulled out hence the late call up & others were maybe unavailable to go through work (getting time off work) or family commitments. Maybe Neal McA was asked but couldn't go cos he has 2 young kids....we'll never know.

More than likely its what JC said about Croke Park & promoting Hurling

For Neil it's a free holiday, happy days! But it's not something we should get too worked up about

I agree Two Hands FFS.
Never a fan of reading much in to these type of team selections.
Neil has given a lot of himself and I hope he enjoys the "junket" as some payback.
I'm quite sure he's more concerned with a certain game in February himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 02, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.

You're joking? When he's fully fit he's a quality player. Was he at the trials?

Went to all of them. He played the half of last season but he wasnt fully fit. A good winter training with the club will do him no harm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 03, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 02, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.

You're joking? When he's fully fit he's a quality player. Was he at the trials?

Went to all of them. He played the half of last season but he wasnt fully fit. A good winter training with the club will do him no harm

For goodness sake he is a good player and should be in that panel. He has the ability and the fitness will come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 03, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 03, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 03, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 02, 2015, 03:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Nigel elliott wasnt picked for the panel, hence why he wasnt included.

You're joking? When he's fully fit he's a quality player. Was he at the trials?

Went to all of them. He played the half of last season but he wasnt fully fit. A good winter training with the club will do him no harm

For goodness sake he is a good player and should be in that panel. He has the ability and the fitness will come.
I believe he has been asked on to the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
heard that this morning myself.  A club mate of his approached Pj and told him that he was interested in being apart of it. Am sure pj is delighted to have him on board. Great news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
heard that this morning myself.  A club mate of his approached Pj and told him that he was interested in being apart of it. Am sure pj is delighted to have him on board. Great news.

Surely PJ would of approached Saul himself?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
heard that this morning myself.  A club mate of his approached Pj and told him that he was interested in being apart of it. Am sure pj is delighted to have him on board. Great news.

Surely PJ would of approached Saul himself?
he had and Saul had said he couldn't commit. Since then things have changed and a team mate of sauls approached PJ and told him that Saul was now willing to commit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 07, 2015, 09:34:18 AM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
heard that this morning myself.  A club mate of his approached Pj and told him that he was interested in being apart of it. Am sure pj is delighted to have him on board. Great news.

Surely PJ would of approached Saul himself?
he had and Saul had said he couldn't commit. Since then things have changed and a team mate of sauls approached PJ and told him that Saul was now willing to commit.

No closed panels or three year plans from PJ?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
Very good player so good to see him in the panel. If he bulked up a bit I think he would be a definite starter and a serious player for us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 07, 2015, 12:37:01 PM
I haven't seen anywhere what motions are being voted on at tonight's convention.

Can anyone post them on here? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 07, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
Very good player so good to see him in the panel. If he bulked up a bit I think he would be a definite starter and a serious player for us.

He's no need to bulk up at all. He's a flying machine. The year Clare won the All Ireland I was standing on the pitch and was surprised how light the players were. The majority of them a similar build to Saul.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 07, 2015, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 07, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
Very good player so good to see him in the panel. If he bulked up a bit I think he would be a definite starter and a serious player for us.

He's no need to bulk up at all. He's a flying machine. The year Clare won the All Ireland I was standing on the pitch and was surprised how light the players were. The majority of them a similar build to Saul.

I agree Hurlingstick. I wouldn't want to see Saul bulking up either. His strengths are his speed, skill, stick work and elusiveness. Too many young fellas piling on the pounds at the gym and then can't run or perform the way they did before they followed the trend to pound the weights in the gym. Tore Dunloy apart in this years Antrim championship semi final. Saul won North Antrim hurler of the year the way he is now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 07, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
Hurling's a game of speed..to many young lads 'bulking up'' which is having a detrimental effect to their game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 07, 2015, 03:24:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 07, 2015, 09:34:18 AM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2015, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 06, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 06, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Saul for joining up with the county panel. Good news.
heard that this morning myself.  A club mate of his approached Pj and told him that he was interested in being apart of it. Am sure pj is delighted to have him on board. Great news.

Surely PJ would of approached Saul himself?
he had and Saul had said he couldn't commit. Since then things have changed and a team mate of sauls approached PJ and told him that Saul was now willing to commit.

No closed panels or three year plans from PJ?
no closed panels. If a lad is preforming at the level required he will be there if he wants to be there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 07, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 07, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2015, 12:23:09 PM
Very good player so good to see him in the panel. If he bulked up a bit I think he would be a definite starter and a serious player for us.

He's no need to bulk up at all. He's a flying machine. The year Clare won the All Ireland I was standing on the pitch and was surprised how light the players were. The majority of them a similar build to Saul.
+1.  A few of them town lads could do with bulking down. Lol.  Saul is what you want from your star forward. Flying fast and fit. Perfect build.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 07, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
i agree, Ally Elliott never bulked out at any stage of his career and still tore many a defender a new one each time he played.

Natural skill and pace are hard to beat and Saul has both. A good addition to the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 07, 2015, 05:44:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 07, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
i agree, Ally Elliott never bulked out at any stage of his career and still tore many a defender a new one each time he played.

Natural skill and pace are hard to beat and Saul has both. A good addition to the panel.

Saul and Ciaran Clarke arguably the two best players in the Ballycastle team. Certainly the two most dangerous. Both very trim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 07, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
Agree with points being made. Strong enough to take a hit but fast enough to avoid most of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 07, 2015, 09:33:45 PM
All change on the county board tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 07, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 07, 2015, 09:33:45 PM
All change on the county board tonight.
The people have spoke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on December 11, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Can anyone provide the list of teams in each division for 3016?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 11, 2015, 01:30:06 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on December 11, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Can anyone provide the list of teams in each division for 3016?

I'm guessing no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on December 11, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Can anyone provide the list of teams in each division for 3016?
No but I would still guess Loughgiel and Cushendall people will be sniping at each other and the finishing touches will be happening at Casement and Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 11, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on December 11, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Can anyone provide the list of teams in each division for 3016?

To early to name teams but Imm sure someone will be here berating the leauge and championship structures, that one is infinite LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on December 11, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
The gaa at annual congress will be debating several recommended changes to the rules to make the game better just as they have been for the last 1033 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
i see the football leagues are all change for next season. Bit of a farce having relegation matches when they counted for nothing.

Div 1 has 8 teams
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Ballycran
Portaferry
St Johns
Cushendall
Dunloy
Rossa

I know that Cloney and St Galls are now in 1b is it called now?

Maybe someone in the know can inform me better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2015, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 11, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
i see the football leagues are all change for next season. Bit of a farce having relegation matches when they counted for nothing.

Div 1 has 8 teams
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Ballycran
Portaferry
St Johns
Cushendall
Dunloy
Rossa

I know that Cloney and St Galls are now in 1b is it called now?

Maybe someone in the know can inform me better

Ballycastle not make it  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on December 11, 2015, 06:22:37 PM
From last years finalised league tables, I think the following is correct: (did O'Donnells fold???)

Division 1a:

Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycran, St John's, Dunloy, Portaferry, Ballycastle, Rossa.

Division 1b:

St Galls, Clooney, Ballygalget, Glenariffe, Creggan, Cloughmills, Carey, Gortnamona.

Division 2:

Sarsfields, Armoy, Cushendun, St Pauls, St Endas, Randalstown, Bredagh, Rasharkin.

Division 3:

St Theresa's, Glenravel, Na Magha, Lamh Dhearg, Glenarm, O'Donnells???, Carryduff, St Agnes, Davitts, Belfast Shamrocks, Ballyvarley, Loch Mor Gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on December 11, 2015, 06:22:37 PM
From last years finalised league tables, I think the following is correct: (did O'Donnells fold???)

Division 1a:

Loughgiel, Cushendall, Ballycran, St John's, Dunloy, Portaferry, Ballycastle, Rossa.

Division 1b:

St Galls, Clooney, Ballygalget, Glenariffe, Creggan, Cloughmills, Carey, Gortnamona.

Division 2:

Sarsfields, Armoy, Cushendun, St Pauls, St Endas, Randalstown, Bredagh, Rasharkin.

Division 3:

St Theresa's, Glenravel, Na Magha, Lamh Dhearg, Glenarm, O'Donnells???, Carryduff, St Agnes, Davitts, Belfast Shamrocks, Ballyvarley, Loch Mor Gaels.

If Creggan continue with same vein of form from season past they could very easily make the jump up to 1A
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 01:53:46 PM
Don't see them topping ballygalget mr2?
O'Donnells have certainly not folded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
Their hurling is almost more of an amalgamation though is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Could be - lets just say their adult hurling numbers would be "volatile"!
Few random in and outs year to year!
Always a football club with what playing resources they have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
Just read an article about CJ McGourty joining the county squad.
Did u see it MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2015, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
Just read an article about CJ McGourty joining the county squad.
Did u see it MR2?

He's been there a while.... Training Away today too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2015, 04:34:58 PM
Heard today that Mickey glover and Johnny Campbell favourites to take the reigns at loughgiel. Interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Not many interested SiE?
Is that Johnny Campbell young - or an older namesake?

I have to say McGourty article raised an eyebrow mr2 - it would appear he is "helping Antrim out".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 12, 2015, 05:00:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Not many interested SiE?
Is that Johnny Campbell young - or an older namesake?

I have to say McGourty article raised an eyebrow mr2 - it would appear he is "helping Antrim out".
I don't think there were too many in for it to be honest. I know one fella pulled out after the dead line was extended. It's all change in loughgiel hi.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2015, 08:46:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 12, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
Not many interested SiE?
Is that Johnny Campbell young - or an older namesake?

I have to say McGourty article raised an eyebrow mr2 - it would appear he is "helping Antrim out".

I took that from the interview to. Doing them a favour it seems to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on December 12, 2015, 09:41:43 PM
Plagued by a hip injury last year and couldn't train for the county footballers but was ok to play matches. Would he be a starter for the hurlers in anyone's book?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
I dare say if he steps out of line he'll be gone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
I dare say if he steps out of line he'll be gone.

Who we talking about here? Winker ?


On a serious note, anybody steps out of line should be sent packing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
I dare say if he steps out of line he'll be gone.

Who we talking about here? Winker ?


On a serious note, anybody steps out of line should be sent packing

I just find "help them out" an incredible phrase for anyone to use about their team - much less a county team I wouldn't think he'd be a major part of. Curious mindset from him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 13, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
I dare say if he steps out of line he'll be gone.

Who we talking about here? Winker ?


On a serious note, anybody steps out of line should be sent packing

I just find "help them out" an incredible phrase for anyone to use about their team - much less a county team I wouldn't think he'd be a major part of. Curious mindset from him.

Christ are we still going on at a quote that was said in a paper allegedly?? Take him out and flog him ffs!!

I doubt he will be a first 15 starter so his "quote" wouldn't hold any water... I thought you knew a thing or two about local hurling ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Don't over-react now mr2 with the flogging - the quote has only had a few posts - less than half a page.
As you say yourself that quote holds no water - pretty much what the point we were making.
I'm sure it won't be lost on PJ.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Don't over-react now mr2 with the flogging - the quote has only had a few posts - less than half a page.
As you say yourself that quote holds no water - pretty much what the point we were making.
I'm sure it won't be lost on PJ.

I think its you that is overreacting to a quote, and why would PJ get annoyed about it? I didn't think you would be hung up on something in the papers.... Must have been a poor news week for that to get any ink..

Anyway lets see how the season starts after Xmas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 14, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2015, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 11, 2015, 03:51:31 PM
i see the football leagues are all change for next season. Bit of a farce having relegation matches when they counted for nothing.

Div 1 has 8 teams
Loughgiel
Cushendall
Ballycran
Portaferry
St Johns
Cushendall
Dunloy
Rossa

I know that Cloney and St Galls are now in 1b is it called now?

Maybe someone in the know can inform me better

Ballycastle not make it  ::)

Nope, after they beat us i have deleted them  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 14, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Is there any idea where the Cushendall Sarsfield match will be played on Feb 6th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on December 14, 2015, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Don't over-react now mr2 with the flogging - the quote has only had a few posts - less than half a page.
As you say yourself that quote holds no water - pretty much what the point we were making.
I'm sure it won't be lost on PJ.

I think its you that is overreacting to a quote, and why would PJ get annoyed about it? I didn't think you would be hung up on something in the papers.... Must have been a poor news week for that to get any ink..

Anyway lets see how the season starts after Xmas

No problem with what he said at all, in fact he should be commended for being honest with his plans how many players have come on panels then dropped off out of the blue even though they have known their plans from the outset. CJ has been pretty open and the management have accepted that, fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 14, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 14, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Is there any idea where the Cushendall Sarsfield match will be played on Feb 6th?
No venue yet. Probably be after Xmas before its known.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 14, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on December 14, 2015, 12:15:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 13, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Don't over-react now mr2 with the flogging - the quote has only had a few posts - less than half a page.
As you say yourself that quote holds no water - pretty much what the point we were making.
I'm sure it won't be lost on PJ.

I think its you that is overreacting to a quote, and why would PJ get annoyed about it? I didn't think you would be hung up on something in the papers.... Must have been a poor news week for that to get any ink..

Anyway lets see how the season starts after Xmas

No problem with what he said at all, in fact he should be commended for being honest with his plans how many players have come on panels then dropped off out of the blue even though they have known their plans from the outset. CJ has been pretty open and the management have accepted that, fair play.

Never raised an issue with his plans.
PJ might just "help" his decision to go travelling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 17, 2015, 11:55:57 AM
Interesting article in the ATN today (not often one can say that).
North Antrim Report blaming city teams for not fulfilling fixtures - Rossa objected strongly and an apology has been issued at the behest of Joe Edwards it would seem.
My question would be why that false claim was ever in the report to start with?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on December 17, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
Antrims Xmas party this Saturday night. It's a wonder the big man is aloud in anywhere after his antics a few weekends back.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2015, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 17, 2015, 11:55:57 AM
Interesting article in the ATN today (not often one can say that).
North Antrim Report blaming city teams for not fulfilling fixtures - Rossa objected strongly and an apology has been issued at the behest of Joe Edwards it would seem.
My question would be why that false claim was ever in the report to start with?

There was something up on twitter last week about that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 17, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on December 17, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
Antrims Xmas party this Saturday night. It's a wonder the big man is aloud in anywhere after his antics a few weekends back.  :o
😂 😂 😂 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 17, 2015, 04:00:09 PM
I think the fixtures issues are more relevant in the the B juvenile leagues

There is a separate issue in regard to fixtures in July and August. City juvenile teams to a large degree go awol. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 17, 2015, 04:59:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 17, 2015, 04:19:07 PM
You would wonder how we managed to win the u16 and minor hurling leagues this year....

Joe Edwards spoke about this at convention and claimed to have all the evidence with him for anyone to look at, showing the claim to be false in all juvenile leagues. He wasn't challenged on this.
It seems that there are certain individuals in NA who are pushing to have city teams removed from "their" leagues and this myth is their way of bringing it about.

I spoke to a south Antrim board member about this - it's a nonsense claim.
Skull trying to validate it reveals as much as the original report.
Grown adults can't see their own childish prejudices.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 17, 2015, 06:13:02 PM
btdtgtt ... Wtf did I validate?... please put in print what you've read 'between the lines' of my post?

(Grown adults can't see their own childish prejudices) . Irony right there

And HS ... Its seems ... it seems ..... the paranoia knows no bounds and is indeed not grounded in fact. I for one have never heard anything of the sort mentioned, so take a chill pill in that regard. Most clubs want games and there could be gripes when some clubs don't show the right amount of enthusiasm to get them played as others. As I've said, more of an issue in the B leagues. The Antrim website will back it up.

The totally separate issue of clubs going awol in July and August is something that should be approached. Something wrong with bringing it up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 19, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Antrim played 4 games this week. Won them.

V armagh 5 27  0 07
V creggan 9 24  1 15
V down 5 20  1 15
V meath 2 19  0 17

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 19, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Antrim played 4 games this week. Won them.

V armagh 5 27  0 07
V creggan 9 24  1 15
V down 5 20  1 15
V meath 2 19  0 17

good results
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 19, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 19, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 19, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Antrim played 4 games this week. Won them.

V armagh 5 27  0 07
V creggan 9 24  1 15
V down 5 20  1 15
V meath 2 19  0 17

good results
considering the absentees they are indeed good results. Hopefully they can keep the good form going against Laois in the new year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2015, 06:15:55 PM
Watson scored 2-5, clarke 2-4 and johnston 1-4 against down. Hopefully can be a prolific forward line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 19, 2015, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 17, 2015, 06:13:02 PM
btdtgtt ... Wtf did I validate?... please put in print what you've read 'between the lines' of my post?

(Grown adults can't see their own childish prejudices) . Irony right there

And HS ... Its seems ... it seems ..... the paranoia knows no bounds and is indeed not grounded in fact. I for one have never heard anything of the sort mentioned, so take a chill pill in that regard. Most clubs want games and there could be gripes when some clubs don't show the right amount of enthusiasm to get them played as others. As I've said, more of an issue in the B leagues. The Antrim website will back it up.

The totally separate issue of clubs going awol in July and August is something that should be approached. Something wrong with bringing it up?

Skull your posts tried to mitigate the issue.
What was printed in black and white in the NA report was factually untrue.
And proven to be so.

U tried to bring in lower leagues as a mitigation - firstly that's not what was printed in the report - and secondly I see no evidence of city teams more at fault there either.

Just take a step back - don't try bring any half baked justification in - the report is wrong.

Once you do that - you ask the question as to why it was felt a slant against city teams was needed?

So yes - it was childish prejudices.
The report should have congratulated the winners - funny that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 19, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
btgtdtt you get a complete rager everytime you hear of south antrim north antrim spats and now is no different.

The implication of what was said here was that the U16 & 18 league winners were hauled over coals in regard to them not fielding in the very leagues that they won. If that is the case then I'd expect the person that put that in their report to resign immediately due to complete incompetency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 19, 2015, 11:12:45 PM
Yes. They should resign. As they have exposed their prejudices with lies.
I don't think you can blame me on the reaction this time given the blatant nature of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 20, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 19, 2015, 11:12:45 PM
Yes. They should resign. As they have exposed their prejudices with lies.
I don't think you can blame me on the reaction this time given the blatant nature of this.

You do not know the precise details of the accusation levelled, but on you come here with such certainty. We can rely on armchair gales like yourself to blow on about how it should be done better when in all likelihood poor communication would explain a lot of things.

Heres an hypothesis that might dispel this notion of prejudice.
The NA report could simply have taken a opinion from the floor in regard to how the leagues ran off and one or two club delegates made comments in regard to games not getting played. Its possible that they accepted that to be the case. No one could suggest Rossa didn't respect the league last year, so its beyond me how or why their name would have been brought up, so I'd be very sceptical about the validity of what's been communicated.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
It really is a slow gaa news month..... First its the hanging of CJ for newspaper article and now its sack the board stuff for comments made about south teams not fielding......

I've taken my juvenile teams and during holidays its a miracle you get 15 kids to go to Ballycastle during the week, it happens both ways too... Maybe just maybe that a couple of clubs were unfortunate to have a couple of games called off and exaggerated slightly??

On other Gaa news,

Was refereeing the county v Creggan the other night, while it was two teams poles apart there was some excellent play in the first half.... Take away the goals Antrim got it was very competitive and Creggan will definitely do well in the semis.... Few new faces playing for Antrim seniors too, all very promising
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 20, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 20, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 19, 2015, 11:12:45 PM
Yes. They should resign. As they have exposed their prejudices with lies.
I don't think you can blame me on the reaction this time given the blatant nature of this.

You do not know the precise details of the accusation levelled, but on you come here with such certainty. We can rely on armchair gales like yourself to blow on about how it should be done better when in all likelihood poor communication would explain a lot of things.

Heres an hypothesis that might dispel this notion of prejudice.
The NA report could simply have taken a opinion from the floor in regard to how the leagues ran off and one or two club delegates made comments in regard to games not getting played. Its possible that they accepted that to be the case. No one could suggest Rossa didn't respect the league last year, so its beyond me how or why their name would have been brought up, so I'd be very sceptical about the validity of what's been communicated.

Skull - I do know the precise nature - it's in black & white in the the report.
And if it was an "opinion from the floor" - it should have been checked for its validity.

You have posted a couple of times on this and it's clear just just can't accept the claim is wrong, and it's inclusion in the report is wrong.
That's not opinion - that's fact.

On an un-related point - giving out about armchair Gaels coming on here as long been addressed.
We don't know what each other does in the gaa - and this is merely an Internet discussion board.
So get over it - resorting to that claim is another deflection from acknowledging the real issue.

Really, if the report author has apologised as HS says - it's really quite strange you seek to argue the point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
Define an armchair Gael??

Somebody who doesn't/hasn't play/coach/volunteer/manage/administrator/officiate?? Currently or before

I lot of hearsay goes on both by posters here and from ones who dint read the board but are able to criticize ones who do (usually out of context)

If you participate in any of the above then I don't think you can be an armchair gael...all of the above enable the local clubs to run which helps run the seniors.... Some are self serving but we can't tar everyone...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 21, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
Rossa's name was brought into it on twitter by someone who supports the club. Their name was never mentioned on the report, rather the poster on twitter used their club as an example to prove it was a load of nonsense, hence it came up.

That was their twitter post.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVqHLqlWwAU-0C8.jpg:large)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 21, 2015, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
Our name was also brought up last year along with St. John's when we were asked to attend a meeting to explain ourselves over the exact same allegations. They were no more true last year than they are this year.
Call it paranoia if you will, skull, but this isn't a mistake or bad communication. It's what's known all over the country as "a move" and those behind it know it.

What's the rules in Antrim wrt cancelling and rescheduled games, especially at underage?

IMO its far too easy for clubs in Down to cancel games for whatever reason and that's led to a lot of games not being played out from U-14 to Minor. It used to be a game couldn't be cancelled unless an agreed date had been set for the game to take place, IIRC within 6 days, which I think is right.

We'd to cancel a game due to half the team heading to the fleadh in Sligo and that game never got played!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 21, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
Rossa's name was brought into it on twitter by someone who supports the club. Their name was never mentioned on the report, rather the poster on twitter used their club as an example to prove it was a load of nonsense, hence it came up.

That was their twitter post.


Ok so now we're down to "it's the city clubs but we didn't mention St. John's or rossa"

Good god of almighty.

IT WAS WRONG.

Accept it was wrong - and accept it was prejudiced.

If you can't see that then you clearly have the same mindset.

Go figure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 21, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
Independent of this you have a  real chip on your shoulder about north antrim vs city btdtgtt.

What is it they say about stopped clocks being right twice a day  ???

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 21, 2015, 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 21, 2015, 10:54:09 AM
Rossa's name was brought into it on twitter by someone who supports the club. Their name was never mentioned on the report, rather the poster on twitter used their club as an example to prove it was a load of nonsense, hence it came up.

That was their twitter post.


Ok so now we're down to "it's the city clubs but we didn't mention St. John's or rossa"

Good god of almighty.

IT WAS WRONG.

Accept it was wrong - and accept it was prejudiced.

If you can't see that then you clearly have the same mindset.

Go figure.

wise up, where did i say anything to do with that?

I was posting for information sakes where Rossa's name had come into this and how it started and what the report actually said.

Good god read the post first before keyboard ranting.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
Our name was also brought up last year along with St. John's when we were asked to attend a meeting to explain ourselves over the exact same allegations. They were no more true last year than they are this year.
Call it paranoia if you will, skull, but this isn't a mistake or bad communication. It's what's known all over the country as "a move" and those behind it know it.

I will call it paranoia hs because that's exactly what it is. If you tell a lie long and loud enough, it becomes a truth. It must have become standard patter by now up your way as there's no one there to counter it.

Teams from all over Ulster play in leagues arranged by North Antrim from U8 to U14, so why oh why do you believe we're so insular in our outlook? Lets also add to that all the good relationship NA clubs have with city clubs currently with teams inviting each other for local tournaments/challenge games across the year. Just doesn't add up.

Quote from: btdtgtt on December 20, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
Skull - I do know the precise nature - it's in black & white in the the report.

Thanks DR for putting that jpeg of the report in. Black and white indeed.   ::)

I've mentioned already... these questions need to be asked.
Is every team respecting the game properly?
Is every team getting enough games in the summer months?
Is it right that many teams play no league games in July and August?
Is it not right that some sort of follow up is done post season on a club per club basis to ensure every club is trying to improve their participation levels if they fail to field regularly?

Just looking at the league results on the Antrim website. I'll present what the Antrim website results report (not what the league tables report). I'm presuming the results are complete.

In U16A, Kevin Lynches played 6 out of 10 games. St Johns played 7 out of 10. Other teams were 8, 9 with Ruairí Óg one of the only teams to get all games played. Table show lots of teams on 10 played but check out the 0-0 to 0-0 scorelines.

In U16B, Creggan and Tír Na nÓg, played their last league games on the 15th of June and the whole league was done and dusted on the 27th June. 8 games in total. no walk overs

In Minor A Kevin Lynches played 4 games out of 10. Ballinascreen played 6, St Johns played 6, Ruairí Óg played 7, Slaughtneil played 7. Most teams including Rossa played 8. One (or two at most) played 9. No teams completed all 10 games. Again check out the results for 0-0 to 0-0

In Minor B Creggan played 4 out of 8, Eoghan Rua & GNM played 5, Naomh Colum Cille, St Mac Nissis & Tír Na nÓg played 6 and Glenariffe, St Galls, Lamh Dhearg played 7

North Antrim officials had no right to state "(mostly by city teams)" in their report. I still contend that this opinion more than likely was communicated from the floor and added to the minutes without checking the validity of the statement. I hope their apology was specifically in regard to this as the report does corroborate with the league results in regard to the general issue of teams failing to field.







Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
Our name was also brought up last year along with St. John's when we were asked to attend a meeting to explain ourselves over the exact same allegations. They were no more true last year than they are this year.
Call it paranoia if you will, skull, but this isn't a mistake or bad communication. It's what's known all over the country as "a move" and those behind it know it.

I will call it paranoia hs because that's exactly what it is. If you tell a lie long and loud enough, it becomes a truth. It must have become standard patter by now up your way as there's no one there to counter it.

Teams from all over Ulster play in leagues arranged by North Antrim from U8 to U14, so why oh why do you believe we're so insular in our outlook? Lets also add to that all the good relationship NA clubs have with city clubs currently with teams inviting each other for local tournaments/challenge games across the year. Just doesn't add up.

Quote from: btdtgtt on December 20, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
Skull - I do know the precise nature - it's in black & white in the the report.

Thanks DR for putting that jpeg of the report in. Black and white indeed.   ::)

I've mentioned already... these questions need to be asked.
Is every team respecting the game properly?
Is every team getting enough games in the summer months?
Is it right that many teams play no league games in July and August?
Is it not right that some sort of follow up is done post season on a club per club basis to ensure every club is trying to improve their participation levels if they fail to field regularly?

Just looking at the league results on the Antrim website. I'll present what the Antrim website results report (not what the league tables report). I'm presuming the results are complete.

In U16A, Kevin Lynches played 6 out of 10 games. St Johns played 7 out of 10. Other teams were 8, 9 with Ruairí Óg one of the only teams to get all games played. Table show lots of teams on 10 played but check out the 0-0 to 0-0 scorelines.

In U16B, Creggan and Tír Na nÓg, played their last league games on the 15th of June and the whole league was done and dusted on the 27th June. 8 games in total. no walk overs

In Minor A Kevin Lynches played 4 games out of 10. Ballinascreen played 6, St Johns played 6, Ruairí Óg played 7, Slaughtneil played 7. Most teams including Rossa played 8. One (or two at most) played 9. No teams completed all 10 games. Again check out the results for 0-0 to 0-0

In Minor B Creggan played 4 out of 8, Eoghan Rua & GNM played 5, Naomh Colum Cille, St Mac Nissis & Tír Na nÓg played 6 and Glenariffe, St Galls, Lamh Dhearg played 7

North Antrim officials had no right to state "(mostly by city teams)" in their report. I still contend that this opinion more than likely was communicated from the floor and added to the minutes without checking the validity of the statement. I hope their apology was specifically in regard to this as the report does corroborate with the league results in regard to the general issue of teams failing to field.

Well that's that.
Except they did. Wrongly.
And with prejudice.
Simple.
And that doesn't need a chip on anyone's shoulder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Skull, last year NA board put it to the county that they wanted to run their own NA leagues at U16 & Minor. When the county refused this, NA responded by saying that Belfast teams were responsible for "poor competition" in u16 & minor grades due to non-fielding. This was proven to be incorrect.
This year, they have once again thrown this up which, has again been proven to be incorrect.

Paranoia indeed.

This year they have been proved to be totally incorrect in respect to it being "mainly" the Belfast teams not fielding (I can't talk with certainty about last year but from memory the B leagues at U16 and 18 were problematic) , but there is a problem with teams not fielding and its hitting teams in North Antrim that want more games. On that general point (leaving the brackets out) they were correct and it was right that they said it. Wouldn't you agree? 

Id say the NA executive for years has came up against a hard nosed county executive who refused to accept to facts that some teams were being adversely affected by too many unplayed fixtures to the point that they felt getting back control of the fixtures was the best option to ensure more games for NA teams. A level headed acknowledgement from the county executive and ongoing efforts made to gently remind clubs of their responsibilities year on year could have brought about positive change. I can certainly see how an idea of it being a solution to them could have germinated as much as I'd disagree with it. But if there was a county executive in denial about the facts (and we've all heard about the bullying nature on this forum), their options weren't great. I'm hoping there'll be a bit more togetherness in the years ahead

But you want to think NA have some irrational hatred of city folk rather than consider other factors that might make them consider such options.
Paranoia indeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
Regardless of the county executive stance, responding to it by wrongly blaming city clubs for the problems in the league is not acceptable especially if they have legitimate reasons as you suggest. Why fabricate one if there is no agenda?

fabricate
1.
invent (something) in order to deceive.

Using words like fabricate implies a level of corruption as opposed to lacking on proper administrative checks and balances. That's an ugly statement to make when you have no idea how that statement made it into the report.

Reality is that some NA clubs would have lost out on games due to city teams failing to field. Id expect it was those club(s) who made a specific point about "the city teams". Other clubs may have made the general point about teams not fielding without being specific about which teams. The fact that when presented with whatever facts they were presented with made the NA board apologized immediately would imply to me that this was an error rather than a fabrication as much as you want to believe otherwise.

I think your "regardless of the county executive stance" comment is letting them off the hook far too easy. Clubs failing to field is an issue and wouldn't be mentioned unless NA mentioned it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
If the NA Officer in question made this obvious error in his report - he must be pretty crap at his job.

If it was a general opinion for the floor - then an awful lot of people on that floor don't know s**t about it either.

I find it much more credibile to believe it's just a flat out prejudiced statement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
If the NA Officer in question made this obvious error in his report - he must be pretty crap at his job.

If it was a general opinion for the floor - then an awful lot of people on that floor don't know s**t about it either.

I find it much more credibile to believe it's just a flat out prejudiced statement.

If only someone with the right capabilities would make themselves available  ::)

I'd be certain that anyone who would have said it would have been speaking a truth from their own clubs perspective. The error was not looking at all the data. That nuance seems to be lost on you.

For me, I think your prejudiced refusal to accept even the potential for any other explanation for the error takes away any credibility from your opinions on the topic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 21, 2015, 10:15:09 PM
I was involved in our u 12 go games hurling team this year (Dunloy). We had cancellations  with three of the city teams. one 
we had to travel and they cancelled due to various trips down  south etc. two  did not come down. In fairness we had two other city teams who fulfilled there fixtures in Dunloy-  Rossa  and Lamh Dhearg ( with very depleted numbers so fair play  )
my biggest gripe was the lack of sufficient notice and we  had to contact them looking for confirmation of there attendance or non attendance more like
we could have arranged something else on those Saturdays

I cant speak for the rest of the N Antrim clubs you would have to ask them

I do not feel this is a north v city problem. I would attribute this sort of thing with the respective management and club more than there location on the antrim map





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2015, 11:37:25 PM
We all have stories of teams not fielding, it happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 12:43:23 AM
100% yes it does. The very odd one here and there ... no problem. But if theres a trend of 2 or 3 sides missing more than they should then it can completely balls up that league for teams who wanted the games. I don't see the harm in repeat offenders being made aware that its been noted by the powers that be. Some clubs don't need to be told as they have their own standards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 02:36:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 21, 2015, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 21, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
If the NA Officer in question made this obvious error in his report - he must be pretty crap at his job.

If it was a general opinion for the floor - then an awful lot of people on that floor don't know s**t about it either.

I find it much more credibile to believe it's just a flat out prejudiced statement.

If only someone with the right capabilities would make themselves available  ::)

indeed - precisely right

I'd be certain that anyone who would have said it would have been speaking a truth from their own clubs perspective. The error was not looking at all the data. That nuance seems to be lost on you.

nothing lost on me - you just acknowledged that clubs (plural) perspective is wrong. So a number of clubs (or one officer) arrived at the same wrong perspective? I wonder why!

For me, I think your prejudiced refusal to accept even the potential for any other explanation for the error takes away any credibility from your opinions on the topic

I just did accept the potential for another explanation. I said if it was a genuine error - as opposed to prejudice - read back its there.  Or is there another explanation u want to offer now?! at this rate the report author at least admitting wrong-doing while your still trying to mitigate!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 09:50:17 AM
I am reading back and I'm pretty sure you believe it was prejudice ...end of

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 22, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
Maybe OE just doesn't like folk from the city........................... ;)

Its actually hilarious that a foolish/childish statement like that made its way to print!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 05:53:16 PM
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130316221450/glee/images/8/8b/Gif_adam_whatever.gif

See youse and every other team who wants to hurl at the North Antrim indoor tournaments in the new year (organised by the same people who fabricate stories to get rid of youse). Yes indeed it all adds up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
If you'd any principles you'd have nothing to do with us. A real poor mouth

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 06:35:25 PM
Feck it ... I give up

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 06:58:19 PM
riddins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 07:27:57 PM
For the first ten or so years of the tournament when run by Seamus Elliott ,quite a few Belfast clubs entered the indoor, the likes of St Endas( who where then welcome in SA) Sarsfields , St Galls, but St Johns and Rossa didn't bother entering, the Johnnies still don't and that's their choice. It was a Ulster tournament no clubs where unwelcome Fact!! Now teams who don't pay their fees for the competition have been warned that they wouldn't be welcome the following year, which does include some SA teams for 2016.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 08:06:28 PM
It was a tournament set up and administrated by North Antrim men with the aim of trying to develop hurling right across Ulster and you're right... every club was welcomed. I can only assume the powers that be at the time didn't realise Belfast was in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 22, 2015, 05:53:16 PM
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See youse and every other team who wants to hurl at the North Antrim indoor tournaments in the new year (organised by the same people who fabricate stories to get rid of youse). Yes indeed it all adds up
I can assure you, we battled for long enough before we were offered a place in these competitions.

that's balls in fairness..... Id been taking my clubs under 12's for four years and we entered at the start of the go games ..... The SA board didn't run anything like it so it was a godsend to have these tournaments..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I

St Endas had to earn your trust.
Oh dear. Would you trust them to go to the shop for you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I

St Endas had to earn your trust.
Oh dear. Would you trust them to go to the shop for you?

sorry couldnt help but bite but theres one thing for sure, no club since our treacherous move to NA has had to serve their time like we did but sure isnt it great we made the road easy for the top clubs. there's nothing like a sense of entitlement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I

St Endas had to earn your trust.
Oh dear. Would you trust them to go to the shop for you?

sorry couldnt help but bite but theres one thing for sure, no club since our treacherous move to NA has had to serve their time like we did but sure isnt it great we made the road easy for the top clubs. there's nothing like a sense of entitlement.
Alright John Martyr.

Brilliant retort  ;D your sense of entitlement knows no bounds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:38:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I

St Endas had to earn your trust.
Oh dear. Would you trust them to go to the shop for you?

sorry couldnt help but bite but theres one thing for sure, no club since our treacherous move to NA has had to serve their time like we did but sure isnt it great we made the road easy for the top clubs. there's nothing like a sense of entitlement.
Alright John Martyr.

Brilliant retort  ;D your sense of entitlement knows no bounds
Yes, imagine wanting to promote our games in our county. FFS.
Indeed, against all odds,  Phill Collins is on his way back also I hear.  ;D Nollaig Shona Duit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2015, 11:53:58 PM
Is it a Rossa paranioa night?? We played SA leagues every year and got 4 games in the league...... Without the involvement of Go games we would have lost players.... I've no idea why Rossa never played... But the Johnnies were up their own holes at the time..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 23, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
 :D
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:55:43 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 11:50:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:38:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 22, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Last Man on December 22, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 22, 2015, 10:31:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 22, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
That's Balls HS your gripe was being asked to travel to NA for all matches, as At Endas did for 5 years and earned the trust and respect of each and every member club, you seemed to think you where above that. In Fairness you did enter the leagues and where a asset to them, but let's face it you can feel free to greet and rightly so about the NA Secs report, but you conveniently forgot to mention you didn't field in the 2013 & 2014 MHL finals!! Why??
I

St Endas had to earn your trust.
Oh dear. Would you trust them to go to the shop for you?

sorry couldnt help but bite but theres one thing for sure, no club since our treacherous move to NA has had to serve their time like we did but sure isnt it great we made the road easy for the top clubs. there's nothing like a sense of entitlement.
Alright John Martyr.

Brilliant retort  ;D your sense of entitlement knows no bounds
Yes, imagine wanting to promote our games in our county. FFS.
Indeed, against all odds,  Phill Collins is on his way back also I hear.  ;D Nollaig Shona Duit
Your 5 year initiation ceremony into the Ancient Order of North Antrim will always be remembered.

(http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/water_bucket.jpg)

Sure we knew the Casement sc fraternity would always see to it, what will be will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 23, 2015, 01:46:34 AM
I can't really understand how the like of Rossa could thole working with anyone from North Antrim if this is how they're perceived throughout their club.

I personally find such representations disgusting considering all the initiatives made by the said 'smoking gun' report makers and how they've tried to push the game beyond their jurisdiction. Let's look at SA's contribution in that regard?...mmmm maybe not.





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 23, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
I see the debate has become somewhat tangled.
Complicate and introduce different slants and arguments - very stormont like.
For what it's worth the original point remains un-altered.
A reply that was prejudiced and factually incorrect.
Once that issue is addressed it might lend itself to explain some of the other points.
Anyone who can't see and acknowledge that report as a disgrace is part of the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2015, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 23, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
I see the debate has become somewhat tangled.
Complicate and introduce different slants and arguments - very stormont like.
For what it's worth the original point remains un-altered.
A reply that was prejudiced and factually incorrect.
Once that issue is addressed it might lend itself to explain some of the other points.
Anyone who can't see and acknowledge that report as a disgrace is part of the problem.
was it not addressed with the letter of apology ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on December 23, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2015, 01:56:39 AM
Others may be driven to promote our games amongst a handful of 'traditional' parishes (as well as areas of Derry and Tyrone, if it suits) but we'll just keep playing and try our best to promote our games throughout the county.........but we will expose lies and agendas too. Thank you.

To be fair, South Antrim's service to hurling, in the juvenile set up, over this last 20 odd years is probably pretty poor and I appreciate that their clubs have only made up the numbers in the U16 and minor championships during that time. For that reason, I can see why North Antrim clubs feel that their South Antrim brethren bring down the quality of our games.

After pages and pages HS you finally got to the crux of the issue IMO. Why have you and the rest of the concerned city clubs not got together and forced the South Antrim board to get their own house in order? Why aren't you directing your clear passion into getting the underage leagues in South Antrim into a comparable state to North Antrim's? Instead your just having a go at North Antrim for trying to get regular games for kids.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2015, 04:50:53 PM
There was never a problem with being "insular" though until this last couple of years. The problem became with two boards and one of them not working.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on December 23, 2015, 05:01:12 PM
I see you neatly side stepped the question about the South Antrim board getting their house in order. No wonder Skull gave up on you!

As for divisional boards they have been around as long as I remember be it North Antrim, South Derry, South Down etc. I presume one of the reasons for their existence was to facilitate local underage games. Not sure they should be there to facilitate the failings of another division within a county. Nothing parochial in that. But you just keeping on blaming North Antrim for not promoting the game in South Antrim  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 23, 2015, 05:36:24 PM
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way to go HS

you have the last word











































Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 23, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 23, 2015, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 23, 2015, 09:57:36 AM
I see the debate has become somewhat tangled.
Complicate and introduce different slants and arguments - very stormont like.
For what it's worth the original point remains un-altered.
A reply that was prejudiced and factually incorrect.
Once that issue is addressed it might lend itself to explain some of the other points.
Anyone who can't see and acknowledge that report as a disgrace is part of the problem.
was it not addressed with the letter of apology ?

Perhaps it was - but the original point remains that the greater concern was about the mindset which leads to an inaccurate statement being put to print at that level.
And now again we've seen people who rather than address that - have deflected to different arguments.
SA board has many failings - prejudicial reports slandering other Gaels was not one of them.
Some people just don't (can't) acknowledge the error and mindset of the report.
It's a shameful episode - if I was an NA man genuinely interested in ALL of Antrim that'd be a concern of mine.
The rest of the stuff is pure deflection - but I was parking it in the spirit of Christmas.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on December 23, 2015, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2015, 05:07:40 PM
....and telling blatant lies about clubs in South Antrim to feather their own nest.

How come  the St Endas and St Galls reps on here don't seem to be as outraged as you HS? Seems more like one club is taking on all the outrage on behalf of South Antrim. As other posters have said an apology has been issued so move on. If you think N Antrim are 'forcing' you to play games then why don't you direct all that passion at the S Antrim board? Naturally I'm not expecting you to answer that question but come back with some kind of deflection  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 23, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
Well said FH, on the state of the SA board!! It can't blamed totally on that committee, as any divisional board is only as strong as its member clubs. The NA clubs wouldn't stand for a lack of organised games, so do something pro active about it. The SA Clubs are an absolute asset to the leagues when they play their games. Id also say the author of report is the real target of HS, as about this time last year Rossa delivered a Solicitors letter to him over the Ulster Minor Tournament in Derry! ( Disgraceful) Whatever OE does it will never be good enough!! The truth is in fact he didn't write the report!! The NA Sec did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 23, 2015, 09:36:02 PM
I absolutely agree it shouldn't have been written. But even you have to admit you haven't played all your games when you should have, and messed clubs about cancelling fixtures,and wether you accept it or not that's the perception of most of the NA clubs rightly or wrongly!!At times you where playing more games in the South than in Antrim, nowhere near to the extent of the johnnies though. Moving into 2016 How can we change and move forward to everybods benefit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 23, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 23, 2015, 09:36:02 PM
I absolutely agree it shouldn't have been written. But even you have to admit you haven't played all your games when you should have, and messed clubs about cancelling fixtures, and wether you accept it or not that's the perception of most of the NA clubs rightly or wrongly!!At times you where playing more games in the South than in Antrim, nowhere near to the extent of the johnnies though. Moving into 2016 How can we change and move forward to everybods benefit?

Precisely!
The NA perception is wrong!
So why would anyone accept it!
NA need to accept that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 23, 2015, 10:23:50 PM
The All county leagues run by the Antrim county board have been pathetic the last few years. Be better if NA organised them & let all clubs to join the leagues with punishments for teams who don't complete their fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 23, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2015, 09:21:32 PM
I had no idea who wrote the report but sure....and as for "no matter what he does it will never be good enough".... Sorry but that report simply wasn't good enough, whoever wrote it.

Would it be as bad as SA's (a collective of all clubs) strategic lack of will for donkeys years towards developing hurling within all clubs in their own jurisdiction? Not that long ago (might be changing a bit now ...don't know for sure) some clubs in the city wouldn't invite any local teams to their own big underage tournaments. Teams from Down, NA, Dublin all there but no other team from the West. What noble principles made that a good idea? Would that type of practice be considered good enough?

Less chance of more SA teams competing properly at U16 & U18 if the local structures at underage aren't about getting all clubs standards up through U8/10/12/14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 24, 2015, 12:17:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 23, 2015, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 23, 2015, 09:21:32 PM
I had no idea who wrote the report but sure....and as for "no matter what he does it will never be good enough".... Sorry but that report simply wasn't good enough, whoever wrote it.

Would it be as bad as SA's (a collective of all clubs) strategic lack of will for donkeys years towards developing hurling within all clubs in their own jurisdiction?

I won't be defending SA but that's merely your opinion - the NA report was stated as fact - and was wrong. Not in my opinion - but in fact.

Not that long ago (might be changing a bit now ...don't know for sure) some clubs in the city wouldn't invite any local teams to their own big underage tournaments. Teams from Down, NA, Dublin all there but no other team from the West. What noble principles made that a good idea? Would that type of practice be considered good enough?

Again another argument manufactured because you cannot bring yourself acknowledge the NA reports statement and mindset. And again factually untrue. City teams routinely invite each other to tournaments and Go-Games - I've been present at enough over the years to know! But listen - don't let the facts get in the way of your posts. Again.

Less chance of more SA teams competing properly at U16 & U18 if the local structures at underage aren't about getting all clubs standards up through U8/10/12/14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 25, 2015, 12:42:45 AM
Happy Christmas to all the lads & ladies on here. Stay safe & enjoy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 28, 2015, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

On the juice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

On the juice

Not sure who the tweet is from but I know a clubman who's grandfather passed away the other day and funeral is today possibly, I really don't know..... On the juice??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on December 28, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

On the juice

Not sure who the tweet is from but I know a clubman who's grandfather passed away the other day and funeral is today possibly, I really don't know..... On the juice??

The tweet is from PJ O'Mullan at 3:50am
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

On the juice

Not sure who the tweet is from but I know a clubman who's grandfather passed away the other day and funeral is today possibly, I really don't know..... On the juice??

The tweet is from PJ O'Mullan at 3:50am

Is it about himself or one of the squad ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 28, 2015, 09:03:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

On the juice

Not sure who the tweet is from but I know a clubman who's grandfather passed away the other day and funeral is today possibly, I really don't know..... On the juice??

The tweet is from PJ O'Mullan at 3:50am

Is it about himself or one of the squad ?


I'm assuming one of the squad. Good to see the big fella isn't letting the pressure get to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2015, 01:14:27 PM
You boys are easily led.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 28, 2015, 01:54:48 PM
Sie is here to control any rumours that anyone may wish to circulate ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 28, 2015, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 28, 2015, 01:54:48 PM
Sie is here to control any rumours that anyone may wish to circulate ;D
I was taking to a panel member this morning as it goes. He hasn't heard of anyone not being available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 28, 2015, 03:34:25 PM
Looks like PJ is making a dick out of himself and the season hasn't started yet.

Someone maybe needs to speak to him about social media use when under the influence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 28, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
Kevin Ryan would never have been that unprofessional 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on December 29, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

Irish News reporting that Arron Graffin is going travelling next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 29, 2015, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 29, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

Irish News reporting that Arron Graffin is going travelling next year.

Has that not been kind of an open secret for a while though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 29, 2015, 10:27:33 AM
Walsh Cup fixtures   

Group 2
1.   Laois   v   Antrim   2.1.2016   Rathdowney   
2.   Dubin   v   U.C.D.   7.1.2016   Parnell Park   
3.   Dublin   v   Antrim   10.1.2016   Parnell Park   
4.   Laois   v   U.C.D.   10.1.2016   Rathdowney   
5.   Laois   v   Dublin   17.1.2016   Rathdowney   
6.   Antrim   v   U.C.D.   16.1.2016   Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 29, 2015, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on December 29, 2015, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 29, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

Irish News reporting that Arron Graffin is going travelling next year.

Has that not been kind of an open secret for a while though?

That was known to be the case for him and McManus for ages I thought anyway...

I hope given where we are it gives us the chance to develop other guys. I would be more worried were I from cushendall with their upcoming AI semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 29, 2015, 10:46:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 29, 2015, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on December 29, 2015, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on December 29, 2015, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 28, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
@AontroimGAA ... body blow...one of best cant commit. Gutted#family#dussapointed


Tweet gro the county hurling manager at 3.50am.. Wonder who he's talking about?

Irish News reporting that Arron Graffin is going travelling next year.

Has that not been kind of an open secret for a while though?

That was known to be the case for him and McManus for ages I thought anyway...

I hope given where we are it gives us the chance to develop other guys. I would be more worried were I from cushendall with their upcoming AI semi.


Why would you be worried?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 29, 2015, 01:17:34 PM
I had heard at least mcmanus will miss semi though hope i'm wrong?

I'd like to see cushendall in an ai final, winning it would be a step too far i think, but without either of these guys that is unlikely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on December 29, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
Neither of them will be playing AI semi. both off travelling. Some of the subs have walked away. We are currently trying to get the Z Squad out of hibernation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 29, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Graffin out of Saffrons' plans for 2016

Antrim hurling manager PJ O'Mullan has been dealt another blow with the news that Arron Graffin will be unable to commit to his squad for the forthcoming season.

Graffin, who has played with the Saffrons for nine seasons now and is currently Cushendall's captain, will go travelling with his girlfriend for an extended period in April.

The 27-year-old told The Irish News that he has agreed on an extended break with his boss and confirmed that he will play no part for Antrim next season.

"It's open ended, we'll take it as we see it and we've put no real time frame on it. But unfortunately I'll not be available to the Saffrons in 2016," said Graffin.

While the news comes as a blow to O'Mullan, who is still uncertain over whether or not starlets Neil McManus and CJ McGourty will be available for his first season in charge, he has wished Graffin all the best on his travels.

"It's a bad blow surely. He has got a lot going on in his life – he's been injured. A player of his calibre would be a miss to any team," he said.

"When he's young and before maybe he settles down, it's the right time to go travelling."

http://www.hoganstand.com/Antrim/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=248432&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 29, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on December 29, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
Neither of them will be playing AI semi. both off travelling. Some of the subs have walked away. We are currently trying to get the Z Squad out of hibernation.

Sure big jackie is in there. Stick him in ff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 30, 2015, 12:03:45 AM
Everyone in the county knew as past 3 months that mc manus and graffin were going traveling as soon as there wrapped up with Cdall.  To say other wise was kidding yourself.   I posted it here months back.  It's nothing to do with PJ. It's something they wanted to do.  Both will play in the semi also. Behave!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Team named for first game.... Hopefully a win with this new start in the year.

Happy new year
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Post by: Leyland on December 31, 2015, 03:37:55 PM
Happy new year to everyone.

Predictions for new year.

Ruairi ogs to reach all Ireland final but lose out to Na Paiseach

Antrim to win Christy Ring but be pipped to promotion by Carlow

Ballycastle to avenge 2015 cship final defeat by beating Ruairi ogs in final

St. John's to take a big scalp in cship

Carey Faughs to finally land Intermediate

Ballycastle to find themselves in relegation bother early in season but do enough come summer months

Here's to a great 2016

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 31, 2015, 04:50:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Team named for first game.... Hopefully a win with this new start in the year.

Happy new year

Venue change form rathdowney to heywood Cs near abbyleix
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 31, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: Leyland on December 31, 2015, 03:37:55 PM
Happy new year to everyone.

Predictions for new year.

Ruairi ogs to reach all Ireland final but lose out to Na Paiseach

Antrim to win Christy Ring but be pipped to promotion by Carlow

Ballycastle to avenge 2015 cship final defeat by beating Ruairi ogs in final

St. John's to take a big scalp in cship

Carey Faughs to finally land Intermediate

Ballycastle to find themselves in relegation bother early in season but do enough come summer months

Here's to a great 2016
lol. That's pretty big talk considering use have won nothing in years.  Dunloy or loughgiel just cast aside.  Town,dall and St Johns.  Good to see one of them you got right anyway.   Happy New Year!!! ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 02:34:21 PM
3 goals shipped already. That blighted the previous reign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 02:34:21 PM
3 goals shipped already. That blighted the previous reign.
playing well now. Back within 3 points after being nine down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
Beat by 4 points. The goals were costly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
SIE could you post team please?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
SIE could you post team please?
G McTaggart
O McFadden
C McKinley
B McFall
CJ McGourty
N McAuley
S McCrory
K McKernan
C Johnston
S McAfee
M Dudley
E McCloskey
C Johnston
L Watson
C Clarke

Subs:
C O'Connell
D McCloskey
T Coyle
D Nugent
B Graham
G Walsh
J Black
D McKernan
D Hamill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
Great to see Rocket in there even if it is on the bench.  He had a great season. What additions can we expect to the squad? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
Great to see Rocket in there even if it is on the bench.  He had a great season. What additions can we expect to the squad?
I'd expect 5 or 6 from Cushendall and 2 or 3 from creggan. Considering the first choice players missing, maybe 7 or 8, it was a decent performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 02, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
Great to see Rocket in there even if it is on the bench.  He had a great season. What additions can we expect to the squad?
I'd expect 5 or 6 from Cushendall and 2 or 3 from creggan. Considering the first choice players missing, maybe 7 or 8, it was a decent performance.


Possibly 2 McCanns from Creggan and maybe Conor Small? Would he be county standard?

Carson, Ryan McCambridge, Camobell & McManus from the dall if he plays? Would Magill or Sean McAfee have anything to offer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 03, 2016, 12:24:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 02, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 02, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 02, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
Great to see Rocket in there even if it is on the bench.  He had a great season. What additions can we expect to the squad?
I'd expect 5 or 6 from Cushendall and 2 or 3 from creggan. Considering the first choice players missing, maybe 7 or 8, it was a decent performance.


Possibly 2 McCanns from Creggan and maybe Conor Small? Would he be county standard?

Carson, Ryan McCambridge, Camobell & McManus from the dall if he plays? Would Magill or Sean McAfee have anything to offer?
Campbell and McCambridge.  And id say that's it unfortunately. McManus traveling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 03, 2016, 07:00:13 AM
That forward line yesterday is short of fellas who do the dirty work. Sean McAfee would be worth his place in there. As good a man in the county under a high ball and he causes big problems when he runs at a defence too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 03, 2016, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 03, 2016, 07:00:13 AM
That forward line yesterday is short of fellas who do the dirty work. Sean McAfee would be worth his place in there. As good a man in the county under a high ball and he causes big problems when he runs at a defence too.
its not that I think two is all that would be worth there place. I just I believe that's all that will go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 03, 2016, 06:31:04 PM
I'd imagine more than 2 will go. We've a long tradition of players turning out for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 04, 2016, 09:26:25 AM
playing on the 3G could be part to blame for the early goals, game plays very different on that surface witht he ball skidding along much quicker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 04, 2016, 09:32:02 AM
Dowling gets Laois off to a flier
Laois 3-17 Antrim 1-19

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The hosts got off to a great start when debutant Tadhg Dowling rifled home a goal after just four minutes, and they never trailed after that. PJ Scully added a second goal in the 10th minute as Laois built up a 2-3 to 0-5 advantage, but Antrim came back well.

Conor Johnston was in brilliant form at corner-forward, and four points from him left the scores at 2-11 to 0-12 at half time.

After the restart, both teams traded points before Antrim got right back into the game thanks to a goal from Johnston. Ciaran Clarke added a point from a free which left just one point between the sides, but Laois responded well.

PJ Scully (free) and Paddy Purcell pointed before Purcell played Ben Conroy in on goal, and he controlled the ball superbly before shooting past Gabriel McTaggart.

The men from the Glens managed to get within three points heading into injury time, but PJ Scully's late free sealed the win for Laois.

SCORERS - Laois: PJ Scully 1-6 (4f), B Reddin 0-4, T Dowling, B Conroy 1-0 each, M Whelan, P Purcell 0-2 each, E Fennelly, E Reilly (f), R Mullaney 0-1 each.

Antrim: C Johnson 1-6, C Clarke 0-4 (1f), L Watson 0-4f, O McFadden, S McAfee, K McKernan, M Dudley, N McKenna 0-1 each.

LAOIS: E Reilly; O Carroll, D Maher, C Stapleton; J Walsh, N Foyle, R Mullaney; M Whelan, B Reddin; C Collier, E Fennelly, P Purcell; PJ Scully, T Dowling, B Conroy. Subs: L Bergin for Foyle (46), M Kavanagh for Collier (46), B O'Mara for Mullaney (48), J Lennon for Fennelly (50), J Phelan for Conroy (58, inj)

ANTRIM: G McTaggart; D Nugent, C McKinley, B McFall; CJ McGourty, O McFadden, N McAuley; K McKernan, C Johnston; S McAfee, M Dudley, E McCloskey; C Johnston, L Watson, C Clarke. Subs: D McKernan for Dudley (46), D Hamill for Watson (48), N McKenna for McAfee (55)

REF: P Burke (Kilkenny)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on January 04, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
When will the venue for Cushendall v Sarsfield semi be announced. Would Parnell park be favourite at this stage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 04, 2016, 10:34:05 AM
Sats game was a good run out for the players. you can see from the subs changing for players that the manager wanted to get a look at a few players to see what he had on offer.

1-19 is a good scoring return away from home.

Laois are a decent team so its a good game for the team. Up next is another tough game away to Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 04, 2016, 11:04:47 AM
Reading nothing into any results at this stage - only the management and players will have a sense of how things are going.
It's all about the atmosphere and effort - if they are on money - then we can worry about results down the line when they mean something (i.e) league & championship.
Early days, here's hoping the turn in the calendar year has us looking towards the season ahead!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 05, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
On Reading the Panel, we are still short of a bit of pace and power, some lads very much of a muchness. Although Ryan Mc C , Conor McCann and Campbell will help, we are struggling for me, that's not the managers fault before I get shot, but it's a worry. Any progress on Saul??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Getting eddie and Liam in there into the forwards will add the pace and power that we were lacking last season. Losing Shorty is a blow but it is what it is and we will have to do without him for the time being.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on January 08, 2016, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Getting eddie and Liam in there into the forwards will add the pace and power that we were lacking last season. Losing Shorty is a blow but it is what it is and we will have to do without him for the time being.

Has shorty had the op and is it on the same hip as last time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 08, 2016, 01:58:40 PM
im not 100% sure if hes had it or not, i would need to find out the craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.

Dunloy played Sarsfields in Mullingar.
They were the better side I don't know how it got away. (A certain Joe Cooney)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 08, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.

Dunloy played Sarsfields in Mullingar.
They were the better side I don't know how it got away. (A certain Joe Cooney)

Joe Cooney allegedly used a size 4 ball coming of the bench for the last free. It was a big joke with Sarsfields  at the time. Lad came out with a towel to dry Joe's hurl and dropped the junior ball in the process.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2016, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 08, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.

Dunloy played Sarsfields in Mullingar.
They were the better side I don't know how it got away. (A certain Joe Cooney)

Joe Cooney allegedly used a size 4 ball coming of the bench for the last free. It was a big joke with Sarsfields  at the time. Lad came out with a towel to dry Joe's hurl and dropped the junior ball in the process.

Id say he'd have knocked the size 5 over also... Too many games Dunloy were so unlucky in... Watched most of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2016, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 08, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.

Dunloy played Sarsfields in Mullingar.
They were the better side I don't know how it got away. (A certain Joe Cooney)

Joe Cooney allegedly used a size 4 ball coming of the bench for the last free. It was a big joke with Sarsfields  at the time. Lad came out with a towel to dry Joe's hurl and dropped the junior ball in the process.

Id say he'd have knocked the size 5 over also... Too many games Dunloy were so unlucky in... Watched most of them

Indeed. And Won a few also!
They kept that 90s team so well adding a couple of new guys every year or two to stay a top team in Ireland over a decade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2016, 02:22:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2016, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 08, 2016, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 08, 2016, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 08, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
History to repeat itself at Clones? An Antrim team v a Galway team in an All Ireland semi final. I hope not.

Dunloy played Sarsfields in Mullingar.
They were the better side I don't know how it got away. (A certain Joe Cooney)

Joe Cooney allegedly used a size 4 ball coming of the bench for the last free. It was a big joke with Sarsfields  at the time. Lad came out with a towel to dry Joe's hurl and dropped the junior ball in the process.

Id say he'd have knocked the size 5 over also... Too many games Dunloy were so unlucky in... Watched most of them

Indeed. And Won a few also!
They kept that 90s team so well adding a couple of new guys every year or two to stay a top team in Ireland over a decade.

The last time an Antrim team played a Galway team in clones they won
Dunloy v portumna I think it was 2004 or did LG play st Thomas there I can't remember
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2016, 10:03:28 AM
Not 100% but was loughgiel st Thomas in Parnell?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 09, 2016, 10:21:04 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 09, 2016, 10:03:28 AM
Not 100% but was loughgiel st Thomas in Parnell?

The first one was, and replay in Clones, I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 09, 2016, 10:21:04 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 09, 2016, 10:03:28 AM
Not 100% but was loughgiel st Thomas in Parnell?

The first one was, and replay in Clones, I think

Yes that's sounds about right!
Still no indications of the Dall venue then?
Parnell handiest I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 09, 2016, 06:05:46 PM
The replay was in Clones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 10, 2016, 02:36:45 PM
1-09 1-10 on the half time blow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
3-25 to 1-17 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 10, 2016, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 10, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
3-25 to 1-17 FT
I know I know.  Maybe got small bit excited at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2016, 04:35:42 PM
3.25 is good shooting for this time of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 10, 2016, 04:40:57 PM
Very good.  I'd have said 1:17 wasn't overly bad. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 10, 2016, 05:18:33 PM
We need to look at the amount of goals we concede. The only other team to concede as many today were Meath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 10, 2016, 05:20:41 PM
I don't think you could blame Chrissy on any of the goals, I thought the defense held well and harried the first half the route was in the last 10  - 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 10, 2016, 05:25:40 PM
No and I'm definitely not blaming him.  I think he's a good keeper. It's collective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 10, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
I hear you.  Two games six goals.  Hopefully Ryan Mc Cambridge going back in helps.   I'd also maybe look at getting Martin Burke in for a year if he's interested.   Graffin massive lost!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 10, 2016, 06:49:03 PM
I Agree with you SG, but Marty for some strange reason hasn't been asked, there aren't any better tougher FBs in the County atm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
whilst were scoring well were still conceding far too much. I know its early doors but still we have conceded far too many scores in the last 3 matches.

Half time we were well in it but the same old story for Antrim that we cant seem to continue the pace in the second half.

Need that sorted if were to make progress
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 12, 2016, 11:32:39 AM
McGurk cup Game again tonight against UUJ in The Arena at half 7.

Disappointed last week against Queens with the team playing it like a training match no real urgency I'd have thought the fringe players would have been going Hell for leather to make the cut coming.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 12, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
All Ireland Club semi now at Navan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 12, 2016, 05:14:07 PM
Apparently so

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/3/1201161540-all-ireland-club-semi-final-venues-confirmed/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2016, 05:17:11 PM
Navan seems a strange one guys no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 12, 2016, 05:24:07 PM
Strange one for me also.  But can't go down that road.  Am sure Cdall will be happier than if it were  thurles.  And they should be well on there way to getting where they want to be.   Venue shouldn't be an issue.   Good luck to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 12, 2016, 05:39:15 PM
Not a massive difference in distance to be traveled. Would love to see a Cushendal win. The county needs it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 12, 2016, 05:42:47 PM
Agree the venue isn't a massive issue - just a bit strange from the usual candidates of Parnell clones mullingar.
Cushendall will be more concerned with that match that's for sure.
They have perhaps been the poor relations of our regular county champions when it comes to semi finals - the shamrocks & Dunloy have got over the hurdle to st Patrick's day and I very much home Cushendall can break their jinx.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on January 12, 2016, 05:50:43 PM
I don't no how the county needs it.when loughgiel won it, it done the county more harm than good!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2016, 07:38:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 12, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
All Ireland Club semi now at Navan?
yup. Hopefully heading down a scoot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2016, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 12, 2016, 05:39:15 PM
Not a massive difference in distance to be traveled. Would love to see a Cushendal win. The county needs it.
Agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2016, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: BigPat83 on January 12, 2016, 05:50:43 PM
I don't no how the county needs it.when loughgiel won it, it done the county more harm than good!!!!
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 12, 2016, 10:10:15 PM
6-17 to 0-16 i think it was tonight. Eddie mccloskey hat trick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 13, 2016, 12:07:39 AM
Change of date for Cushendall too it's on Sat 6th instead of Sunday the 7th that was originally penciled in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cushendall on January 13, 2016, 12:35:14 AM
Match was always scheduled for the 6th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
Team sheet from last nights game. 8 from Lgiel and 8 from St Johns also in the panel, didnt realise there was as many there.
Any who, 3 goals for Eddie, 1 for Sain McGrath, Darren Hamill and Chrissy Brogan with the rest in a 6-17 to 0-16 win.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYiywXNWcAAmE1_.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 13, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
I believe one of those St John's players have moved on to another club for the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2016, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 13, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
I believe one of those St John's players have moved on to another club for the season.

So it seems - thought that was more of a football move - must be hurling also.
Is this connected to the new management at Hannahstown - what is the thinking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 13, 2016, 01:59:33 PM
Who we talking about here??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2016, 02:12:44 PM
Young fella nugent seems to be on his way from whiterock to hannahstown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
never understand fellas doing that. why play you youth for one club, have all the good and bad times with them, make friends along the way and then leave it when your older to go to another club due to wanting to achieve more?

Its not professional soccer were in here. I get people move due to work etc. that sometimes cant be helped but theres no excuse to move due to wanting to play for a manager or wanting more success.

It just doesnt sit with me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on January 13, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
It is a big problem with club teams in Belfast! Players at all levels move clubs in search of success! Especially at underage when they not be looking at the bigger picture!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 13, 2016, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on January 13, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
It is a big problem with club teams in Belfast! Players at all levels move clubs in search of success! Especially at underage when they not be looking at the bigger picture!

I agree DR it doesn't sit well.

The issue with transfers in Belfast (albeit not this one) is greater than guys just jumping ship for any reason.
It goes back to the number and nature of clubs - the dual issue included. I mean, some guys might be hugely into one code but fund their club has drifted to the other - to the point they aren't fielding (link to too many clubs) in the players stronger code.
An issue particularly with younger players is that if they don't move - we lose them from gaa altogether - I think everyone would agree a transfer is preferable.

It's not the same as in NA with parish boundaries - and more often only one code.
That's why nobody ever transferred from armoy to loughgiel for a championship - or jumped to and fro from ballycastle to armoy - and everyone from cloughmills plays only for the biddies - I could go on ;)

But yes - the transferring of players never sits easy with me either.
And this one in question is a case in point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 14, 2016, 12:01:12 AM
Are hannahstown junior hurling this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on January 14, 2016, 07:53:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 13, 2016, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on January 13, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
It is a big problem with club teams in Belfast! Players at all levels move clubs in search of success! Especially at underage when they not be looking at the bigger picture!

I agree DR it doesn't sit well.

The issue with transfers in Belfast (albeit not this one) is greater than guys just jumping ship for any reason.
It goes back to the number and nature of clubs - the dual issue included. I mean, some guys might be hugely into one code but fund their club has drifted to the other - to the point they aren't fielding (link to too many clubs) in the players stronger code.
An issue particularly with younger players is that if they don't move - we lose them from gaa altogether - I think everyone would agree a transfer is preferable.

It's not the same as in NA with parish boundaries - and more often only one code.
That's why nobody ever transferred from armoy to loughgiel for a championship - or jumped to and fro from ballycastle to armoy - and everyone from cloughmills plays only for the biddies - I could go on ;)

But yes - the transferring of players never sits easy with me either.
And this one in question is a case in point.

Take it you are not serious about NA. I know of players in NA who have switched to other clubs for success.  Also some who have switched to get a 'senior'  game. Granted this was 20 years ago!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2016, 08:46:57 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 13, 2016, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on January 13, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
It is a big problem with club teams in Belfast! Players at all levels move clubs in search of success! Especially at underage when they not be looking at the bigger picture!

I agree DR it doesn't sit well.

The issue with transfers in Belfast (albeit not this one) is greater than guys just jumping ship for any reason.
It goes back to the number and nature of clubs - the dual issue included. I mean, some guys might be hugely into one code but fund their club has drifted to the other - to the point they aren't fielding (link to too many clubs) in the players stronger code.
An issue particularly with younger players is that if they don't move - we lose them from gaa altogether - I think everyone would agree a transfer is preferable.

It's not the same as in NA with parish boundaries - and more often only one code.
That's why nobody ever transferred from armoy to loughgiel for a championship - or jumped to and fro from ballycastle to armoy - and everyone from cloughmills plays only for the biddies - I could go on ;)

But yes - the transferring of players never sits easy with me either.
And this one in question is a case in point.

Rossa have a current Antrim panelist that's moved clubs.... It happens and if you want to be nostalgic about it then that's fine, in Belfast and Dublin people move from clubs, get over it
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Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2016, 09:40:17 AM
MR2 & Ned - I just didn't want to defend Belfast transfer compared to NA transfers too much - after the juvenile cancellations topic had me under fire ;) ;D
Yes of course transfers happen everywhere - I see a recent example of a Meath hurler moving to my beloved Waterford!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Peileadoir on January 14, 2016, 02:30:14 PM
First time posting on the hurling site and in relation to the transfer of young Nugent I very much agree with btdtgtt and can't understand how some players do this, and to me it is very much against the ethos of our great organisation. However it is not just confined to city teams and just to correct btdtgtt in 1989 one of Antrim's best ever hurlers transferred from Armoy to Loughiel just for the season to win a senior championship. He duly obliged by doing what he was brought in for, and being man of the match in the final v Johnnies!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2016, 02:38:21 PM
rem that well, he beat us in the semi final on his own that day in cushendall! All of that was however stopped to ensure that couldn't happen again.

I accept people move due to work, that cant be helped some times when your constantly working away from home, but to transfer to another club due to a new manager or the hope of success? that should not happen at all.

We have kids who play underage hurling for us but football for their parent club due to their own club not having a hurling team. Thats totally acceptable in my eyes but at the end of the day they are not our player and belong to their home club. We cant make them play for us or in that fact we would never push them to move to us on a permanent basis.

Its wrong and goes against everything in the GAA.

If you move to another club for glory you will never have that emotional connection that others do that are with a club their whole life from playing to administration.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on January 14, 2016, 02:30:14 PM
First time posting on the hurling site and in relation to the transfer of young Nugent I very much agree with btdtgtt and can't understand how some players do this, and to me it is very much against the ethos of our great organisation. However it is not just confined to city teams and just to correct btdtgtt in 1989 one of Antrim's best ever hurlers transferred from Armoy to Loughiel just for the season to win a senior championship. He duly obliged by doing what he was brought in for, and being man of the match in the final v Johnnies!!!

The cloot thing was the point I was making!

Agree DR also - the "sanctions" to allow players to play another code are perfectly acceptable and proper. They are common place in the South. Much preferable to transfers and amalgamation teams.
I would like to see sanctions operate at senior level also - if the parent club is single code.

Again however - none of this applies to the current transfer.
Be that in Belfast or NA as they both happen!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 14, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on January 14, 2016, 02:30:14 PM
First time posting on the hurling site and in relation to the transfer of young Nugent I very much agree with btdtgtt and can't understand how some players do this, and to me it is very much against the ethos of our great organisation. However it is not just confined to city teams and just to correct btdtgtt in 1989 one of Antrim's best ever hurlers transferred from Armoy to Loughiel just for the season to win a senior championship. He duly obliged by doing what he was brought in for, and being man of the match in the final v Johnnies!!!

The cloot thing was the point I was making!

Agree DR also - the "sanctions" to allow players to play another code are perfectly acceptable and proper. They are common place in the South. Much preferable to transfers and amalgamation teams.
I would like to see sanctions operate at senior level also - if the parent club is single code.

Again however - none of this applies to the current transfer.
Be that in Belfast or NA as they both happen!
yeah I was getting the sarcasm thing lol.  No1 else seemed to. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 14, 2016, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 14, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 14, 2016, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Peileadoir on January 14, 2016, 02:30:14 PM
First time posting on the hurling site and in relation to the transfer of young Nugent I very much agree with btdtgtt and can't understand how some players do this, and to me it is very much against the ethos of our great organisation. However it is not just confined to city teams and just to correct btdtgtt in 1989 one of Antrim's best ever hurlers transferred from Armoy to Loughiel just for the season to win a senior championship. He duly obliged by doing what he was brought in for, and being man of the match in the final v Johnnies!!!

The cloot thing was the point I was making!

Agree DR also - the "sanctions" to allow players to play another code are perfectly acceptable and proper. They are common place in the South. Much preferable to transfers and amalgamation teams.
I would like to see sanctions operate at senior level also - if the parent club is single code.

Again however - none of this applies to the current transfer.
Be that in Belfast or NA as they both happen!
yeah I was getting the sarcasm thing lol.  No1 else seemed to.

;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on January 15, 2016, 08:24:42 AM
Anyone know when fixtures for the leagues are out? And a potential start date?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Did Cloot not play his underage hurling in loughgiel? Of course, at the time he opted for loughgiel armoy didn't field that year and other clubs were knocking at his door. All forgot about through the realms of time.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2016, 12:23:18 PM
aye but he was playing senior league hurling for Armoy and then championship playing for Lgiel.

It sounds silly now but it was the norm for teams back then.

What year did that end and he wasnt allowed to play for Lgiel anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 15, 2016, 03:19:23 PM
It was funny that the only Armoy hurlers to transfer that year was top class forward and future all star Cute Mcfetridge. The rest stayed in Armoy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 03:44:21 PM
What about that mc Grady lad that moved from Belfast to Cdall that there was so much hope for?  Or the Cdun lad that was a real good minor few years back.  Where did they ever go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 03:44:21 PM
What about that mc Grady lad that moved from Belfast to Cdall that there was so much hope for?  Or the Cdun lad that was a real good minor few years back.  Where did they ever go?

I think his parents had/have a house in C'Dall and he spent his summers there, St Brigids couldn't offer hurling. He was on the panel that beat St Galls last year I think.

What C'Dun lad? AS far as I'm aware there has been 6/7 lads from C'Dun, Glenravel & Glenarm who played minor for C'Dall when their "parent" club couldn't offer hurling but all returned home again when they came out of minor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 03:54:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 15, 2016, 03:19:23 PM
It was funny that the only Armoy hurlers to transfer that year was top class forward and future all star Cute Mcfetridge. The rest stayed in Armoy.
I seem to recall a team from the glens trying to sign a young McCarry fella back in the day.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2016, 04:07:56 PM
down with that sort of thing!

Open the transfer map and make it within the rules! lol

We can start bidding now in Jan! :D

How much use want to Eddie SIE?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2016, 04:07:56 PM
down with that sort of thing!

Open the transfer map and make it within the rules! lol

We can start bidding now in Jan! :D

How much use want to Eddie SIE?  :)
he's priceless lad.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 03:44:21 PM
What about that mc Grady lad that moved from Belfast to Cdall that there was so much hope for?  Or the Cdun lad that was a real good minor few years back.  Where did they ever go?

I think his parents had/have a house in C'Dall and he spent his summers there, St Brigids couldn't offer hurling. He was on the panel that beat St Galls last year I think.

What C'Dun lad? AS far as I'm aware there has been 6/7 lads from C'Dun, Glenravel & Glenarm who played minor for C'Dall when their "parent" club couldn't offer hurling but all returned home again when they came out of minor.
a young lad that actually lives in loughgiel.   Begged high up and low down he was.   Nothing to do with parent club either.  This has happened all the bigger clubs at some stage.   And most clubs in Ireland would have loved Mr Mc Fetridge at the time.   It's still happening. Just maybe some players hadn't the same effect clute had
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Dunloy with paddy Doc sure.  His first game ever against us he scored a goal and ran out kissing the badge.  I near got sick in my mouth!!!   It happens.  It's not for me.  But it happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Dunloy with paddy Doc sure.  His first game ever against us he scored a goal and ran out kissing the badge.  I near got sick in my mouth!!!   It happens.  It's not for me.  But it happens
Agh now that doesn't count. Because it's Dunloy.  ;D
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Post by: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 05:06:03 PM
Lol.  Conversation closed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on January 15, 2016, 09:53:17 PM
Cloot also played underage for Armoy and Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 10:42:07 PM
He's certainly been round the clubs,  Neill Mc Auley slipped my mind also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 11:22:08 PM
I hear shorty is going under the knife tomorrow. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 16, 2016, 03:15:50 PM
any word from the Dub
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2016, 03:21:55 PM
5-2

Check out Twitter as very up to date.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 16, 2016, 03:26:57 PM
Follow @AntrimPost on Twitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
Official antrim account is pretty on the ball these days.

Antrim post doesn't seem to be at game and is nowhere near as good as it used to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 16, 2016, 03:46:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2016, 03:21:55 PM
5-2

Check out Twitter as very up to date.

Got it thanks

9 6 to Antrim half time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 16, 2016, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
Official antrim account is pretty on the ball these days.

Antrim post doesn't seem to be at game and is nowhere near as good as it used to be.
Cheers. Was just going to Antrim Post tweets rather than timeline so missing the official updates.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
1.20 to 1-12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 16, 2016, 05:08:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2016, 03:33:04 PM
Official antrim account is pretty on the ball these days.

Antrim post doesn't seem to be at game and is nowhere near as good as it used to be.

Agree, have to give credit where it is due. New PRO doing great work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 18, 2016, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Dunloy with paddy Doc sure.  His first game ever against us he scored a goal and ran out kissing the badge.  I near got sick in my mouth!!!   It happens.  It's not for me.  But it happens
Agh now that doesn't count. Because it's Dunloy.  ;D

and hes married and lives in dunloy as well  ;D

Not sure how long hes actually been with us but its a long time now? Think he fell out with his own club and came to us at underage level. Incidentally his brothers all still play for rasharkin still.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2016, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2016, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Dunloy with paddy Doc sure.  His first game ever against us he scored a goal and ran out kissing the badge.  I near got sick in my mouth!!!   It happens.  It's not for me.  But it happens
Agh now that doesn't count. Because it's Dunloy.  ;D

and hes married and lives in dunloy as well  ;D

Not sure how long hes actually been with us but its a long time now? Think he fell out with his own club and came to us at underage level. Incidentally his brothers all still play for rasharkin still.

Did John not have a spell at Dunloy to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 18, 2016, 02:25:30 PM
Im not 100% but i think he did. I t was to play football as far as i can remember.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 18, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 18, 2016, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 15, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 15, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Dunloy with paddy Doc sure.  His first game ever against us he scored a goal and ran out kissing the badge.  I near got sick in my mouth!!!   It happens.  It's not for me.  But it happens
Agh now that doesn't count. Because it's Dunloy.  ;D

and hes married and lives in dunloy as well  ;D

Not sure how long hes actually been with us but its a long time now? Think he fell out with his own club and came to us at underage level. Incidentally his brothers all still play for rasharkin still.
lol. He wasn't married and living in dunloy when he moved.  He moved when he was 18. Hurled his last year minor with use.  Must be 28 now paddy.  Maybe 29   So that's the guts of 10 years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on January 19, 2016, 12:19:41 PM
First win of the year on board. Winker seems to have settled back in nicely. When the 'Dall ones come back it should increase competition nicely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 19, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
whats the craic for sats match. What time is it at and is it still on?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 19, 2016, 05:36:40 PM
How's the dall getting on? Very quite on here lads. Few weeks to go now.  Must be nearly there at this stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 19, 2016, 11:10:54 PM
Things have been picking up over the last couple of weeks, injuries starting to clear up with Graffin, and Aiden McN back in full training. The Boys had 2 challenge matches at the weekend against Wexford and DIT and travel to play Cork on Sat. TBH the weather has been a disaster with a lot of training inside and on 3G,  but things are positive enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 19, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
Tough fixture to prepare for given weather and suitable opposition for games. Add in the time since last competitive game.
Sure it's the same for both teams - but I can't help think it's another way clubs are s**t on with the master fixtures. Huge games stuck in the depth of winter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 07:59:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
Tough fixture to prepare for given weather and suitable opposition for games. Add in the time since last competitive game.
Sure it's the same for both teams - but I can't help think it's another way clubs are s**t on with the master fixtures. Huge games stuck in the delta of winter.

Look when the prize is to play in Croke Park on St Patricks' day, you'll run over hot coals and swim in the Antarctic!!!

Is what it is.... Not enough time to run it off before Xmas... Unless counties start leagues and championships earlier .. November and parts of December were terrible for weather so getting games and preparing then is no different (in my opinion)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 20, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
MR2 your right, I don't know how the Gaa propose to run it off in the calendar year for the reasons you say. Oct /Nov  were the mildest on record and preparing was easy, Dec/ Jan a different story altogether, getting pitches with lights has been a nightmare. Clubs like Armoy and Ballymena have been super.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2016, 09:07:42 AM
If you look at our own county there is no reason we shouldn't have club championships played off way sooner than they are. The more successful counties make it more problematic though and then I guess we don't want to not be fresh going into ulster or our teams would be at a disadvantage.

I thought they were moving to playing it off in a calendar year at some stage though? (I would miss the st patricks day finals if they did mind you)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2016, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 07:59:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
Tough fixture to prepare for given weather and suitable opposition for games. Add in the time since last competitive game.
Sure it's the same for both teams - but I can't help think it's another way clubs are s**t on with the master fixtures. Huge games stuck in the delta of winter.

Look when the prize is to play in Croke Park on St Patricks' day, you'll run over hot coals and swim in the Antarctic!!!

Is what it is.... Not enough time to run it off before Xmas... Unless counties start leagues and championships earlier .. November and parts of December were terrible for weather so getting games and preparing then is no different (in my opinion)

No argument over the prize and effort put in - nobody ever would say otherwise.
But the fact remains - the master fixture schedule could be laid out better to give more prominence to clubs. I don't thing there's a part of Ireland that wouldn't agree with that - it's even made the floor of Congress which is some achievement given the North Korean style there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pullhard on January 20, 2016, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
Tough fixture to prepare for given weather and suitable opposition for games. Add in the time since last competitive game.
Sure it's the same for both teams - but I can't help think it's another way clubs are s**t on with the master fixtures. Huge games stuck in the delta of winter.
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The Kilkenny game at the weekend was a piss take, hurling should not be played on such a terrible pitch at this time of year.

I'd like to club championship started started earlier in the year across the board, and club all irelands finished in the same year.

There are always far to many wasted evenings during summer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
agree totally. the championship is played far too late in antrim. With this year coming we will be dusted and read up a lot earlier so we should be aiming to get the championship started earlier. Playing games in November and December is a joke.

The weather this year has been really bad so its not ideal for going out on grass. I know our pitches are completely shut down and wont be open till March at this rate!

Im heading down to the creggan match this weekend so hopefully they can start a good few weeks for antrim hurling!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
So would it be a possibility for each County to have a full size 4G pitch with a stand of sorts for the fans to accommodate these games when the weather is so shite? and still able to play the games at Croke Park when they reach them as that pitch is playable no matter what the weather is like?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 20, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
So would it be a possibility for each County to have a full size 4G pitch with a stand of sorts for the fans to accommodate these games when the weather is so shite? and still able to play the games at Croke Park when they reach them as that pitch is playable no matter what the weather is like?

I think by doing this we would only be accommodating the real problem. I would go as far to say that club finals should be finished before end of November each calendar year and let divisional/county boards work back from there. Lets fit everything else (including county games) around our premier club tournaments. Obviously there are so many obstacles, but for me that's the nuts and bolts of what needs to happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 20, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
So would it be a possibility for each County to have a full size 4G pitch with a stand of sorts for the fans to accommodate these games when the weather is so shite? and still able to play the games at Croke Park when they reach them as that pitch is playable no matter what the weather is like?

I think by doing this we would only be accommodating the real problem. I would go as far to say that club finals should be finished before end of November each calendar year and let divisional/county boards work back from there. Lets fit everything else (including county games) around our premier club tournaments. Obviously there are so many obstacles, but for me that's the nuts and bolts of what needs to happen.
Then it needs to be a universal system that runs with every county board that is linked to a national leagues and county championships programmes.... but with Croke park looking to have b championships at football we will just get more delays from county managers demanding more time with the county players thus holding everything up!!

not possible to really have the club finals done by end of August as counties who get to the business end of things are still trying to run off their clubs championships ...

It's all about the timing and unfortunately that's the only time to fit it in.... would like to ask the players who have hurled on these 4G grounds what their view on the playing surface and would it be a goer for club semi finals where maybe the weather aint great but at least the pitch has a great surface to it and wont detract form the game.... remember it rains and blows a gale in the summer too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2016, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 20, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
So would it be a possibility for each County to have a full size 4G pitch with a stand of sorts for the fans to accommodate these games when the weather is so shite? and still able to play the games at Croke Park when they reach them as that pitch is playable no matter what the weather is like?

I think by doing this we would only be accommodating the real problem. I would go as far to say that club finals should be finished before end of November each calendar year and let divisional/county boards work back from there. Lets fit everything else (including county games) around our premier club tournaments. Obviously there are so many obstacles, but for me that's the nuts and bolts of what needs to happen.
Then it needs to be a universal system that runs with every county board that is linked to a national leagues and county championships programmes.... but with Croke park looking to have b championships at football we will just get more delays from county managers demanding more time with the county players thus holding everything up!!

not possible to really have the club finals done by end of August as counties who get to the business end of things are still trying to run off their clubs championships ...

It's all about the timing and unfortunately that's the only time to fit it in.... would like to ask the players who have hurled on these 4G grounds what their view on the playing surface and would it be a goer for club semi finals where maybe the weather aint great but at least the pitch has a great surface to it and wont detract form the game.... remember it rains and blows a gale in the summer too

That's why I specifically said Master fixtures - the GAA calendar is something that can only be addressed at Croke Park/Congress Level.
The scheduling of club fixtures is a nationwide issue - and unlike county fixtures - one which effects every single Gael.
I'm glad it has been highlighted in many media and opinion pieces - and is now reaching Congress.
Maybe we'll actually do something more than lip-service about finding a remedy.

My personal opinion is that the solution (whatever it is) must involved shortening the inter-county season.
Benefits club gaels (ie) all gaels, and helps alleviate the constant focus on "sacrifices" and training regimes / burnout etc from county players. The money men still get their big revenue generating fixtures - the fact is much of the county season is irrelevant games.

There might not be a perfect solution - but there is certainly a better way than present.
Let's hope we have the courage to try something - light a candle rather than complain about the dark and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
There was 3 club games I'd say after Championship this year that really were dead rubbers... if you have 8 teams per league with top four playing off at the end of season and bottom four playing off  to stave off relegation then these games become meaningful and can help with seeding next year... that way they don't become meaningless

I cant really see at present that they will shorten the Intercounty games....All championships at all levels go to extra time including finals.... Intercounty games the same and no more back door fecking games, pure muck... you're out and stay out, do away with provincial championships to and have open draws, get knocked out of the first round you drop into a B championship, that's your second bite at the cherry but at a lesser grade
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 20, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
There was 3 club games I'd say after Championship this year that really were dead rubbers... if you have 8 teams per league with top four playing off at the end of season and bottom four playing off  to stave off relegation then these games become meaningful and can help with seeding next year... that way they don't become meaningless

I cant really see at present that they will shorten the Intercounty games....All championships at all levels go to extra time including finals.... Intercounty games the same and no more back door fecking games, pure muck... you're out and stay out, do away with provincial championships to and have open draws, get knocked out of the first round you drop into a B championship, that's your second bite at the cherry but at a lesser grade

Agree with this. Champions League/European rugby championship type formats work for them so why not GAA??? The main obstacles are the old cronies in provincial councils wanting to keep their Munster/leinster cship. In order to move forward, sacrifices, such as the Munster hurling cship will have to be made. Maybe too radical a proposal for most but that's what this whole debate really comes down to, each looking after their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2016, 02:27:04 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 20, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
There was 3 club games I'd say after Championship this year that really were dead rubbers... if you have 8 teams per league with top four playing off at the end of season and bottom four playing off  to stave off relegation then these games become meaningful and can help with seeding next year... that way they don't become meaningless

I cant really see at present that they will shorten the Intercounty games....All championships at all levels go to extra time including finals.... Intercounty games the same and no more back door fecking games, pure muck... you're out and stay out, do away with provincial championships to and have open draws, get knocked out of the first round you drop into a B championship, that's your second bite at the cherry but at a lesser grade

Agree with this. Champions League/European rugby championship type formats work for them so why not GAA??? The main obstacles are the old cronies in provincial councils wanting to keep their Munster/leinster cship. In order to move forward, sacrifices, such as the Munster hurling cship will have to be made. Maybe too radical a proposal for most but that's what this whole debate really comes down to, each looking after their own.

The CL as a model at the start worked really well however it has now become stale due to the amount of teams being allowed to compete in it. Its a competition that only becomes interesting when your down to the final 8 teams and the cream has rose to the top.

The same would apply to our game. There would be some interesting games i give you that but there would also be plenty of dead rubber games where counties who are finishing last will find their lads leaving for the summer to travel, much the same as what would happen with this 'B' competition.

Sky etc will not cover say Antrim v Louth or Carlow v Leitrim instead they will want to plump for the big classes and wait till the bigger counties meet in the quarter finals.

The current model works in Ulster as its the most competitive, the rest are all a case of waiting till Kerry/Cork, Dublin & Mayo win their trophy back again.

I know we dont want to be in a B competition but we didn't want to be in one either in the hurling!. Football is going the way of hurling where its the elite counties that will win it each year and the gulf continuous to get bigger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2016, 05:08:42 PM
Armoy were massive for us in the run up to games.  Was never an issue getting there pitch night or day,  made life easier for sure.  On another  note  What about Kevin Ryan getting Tyrone job?????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Mileage rates better if he drives north!
And perhaps nobody wants him south!
Great news for Neil McManus - he can go in assistant manager and get a few pounds to pay for that travelling!
I joke. I joke. Honestly I joke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 20, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
When Kevin Ryan was managing Carlow he was able to put it up to Antrim then and even beat us a time or two. I'm still not convinced the poor performance this last few years was all down to KR. If PJ dosent deliver does it make him a shit manager too?

Or is it that in reality we just haven't got too many top quality players (if any) who would make a Kilkenny or any other top 4 team?

Antrim hurling has been stuck somewhere between 10 and 15 in the national ratings for a long time now. Sorry but that's not all Kevin  Ryans fault.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 20, 2016, 09:47:05 PM
Yes.  Yes it was.  All his fault.  His attitude towards club hurling alone was an absolute joke,  wasn't in the gate of most clubs.  It's just a pity the two boys are traveling this year as id be fairly confident PJ would have had Antrim people happy again with everyone involved that should be.  Saying that.  I'd hope we will get the results we should and get to the level we want to be at and hopefully the two dall lads will be back to try and help us sustain it at that level.   Here's hoping anyway. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
Couldn't make the Dub last night, what kinda game was it? See Saul McCaughan has joined the panel, great news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
Couldn't make the Dub last night, what kinda game was it? See Saul McCaughan has joined the panel, great news.
scrappy enough affair am told. Saul played in the first game against Monaghan and didn't feature against down,  Derry in two weeks. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
Couldn't make the Dub last night, what kinda game was it? See Saul McCaughan has joined the panel, great news.
scrappy enough affair am told. Saul played in the first game against Monaghan and didn't feature against down,  Derry in two weeks.


Cheers SG. All chat coming out of the camp seems to be positive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 24, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Creggan lost by 7 points. 1-13 to 0-9. Great effort from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on January 24, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Creggan lost by 7 points. 1-13 to 0-9. Great effort from them.

Wining at half time by a point.... Only scored two in second half it seems.... Expected them to do better in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2016, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on January 24, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 24, 2016, 09:10:54 AM
Couldn't make the Dub last night, what kinda game was it? See Saul McCaughan has joined the panel, great news.
scrappy enough affair am told. Saul played in the first game against Monaghan and didn't feature against down,  Derry in two weeks.


Cheers SG. All chat coming out of the camp seems to be positive.
oh don't get scrappy messed up with me being negative.  Not at all.  Everything is the way it's suppose to be.  Everyone is happy.  Can't wait for the league campaign. Saul is great addition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

Maybe the Derry thread would be a better place to voice your rant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 25, 2016, 09:04:00 AM
went to Navan yday to watch the Creggan match. Very scrappy game in the first half for both teams but the Galway men shot some poor wides. They should of been in front but creggan stuck at it and got the lead at half time.

Second half they hit two quick scores and that was the end of it for them. A Knockmoy were the better team and creggans midfield and half forwards won no ball from their own puck outs. The Galway men fully deserved the win.

From what ive seen of Bennettsbridge they will be the favs for the final. Going for back to back all irelands which is some achievement!

A great run by the Creggan men to get there but they just fell short.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2016, 09:11:28 AM
In general it seems to be a problem for antrim teams that when we face strong southern opposition we can't win our own ball :(

Creggan have done very well though. Good to see the likes of them and ahoghill improving so much in the hurling.

Did Bennetsbridge win junior last year DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 25, 2016, 09:27:41 AM
Yeah they won the all ireland junior last year beating the english side in the final.

The junior final this year has another KK side in it in Glenmore who won the senior all ireland in 1991.

Creggan brought McCann out from 14 to the midfield but that didnt work either, they just couldnt win the ball and even the dirty ball they lost on it as well.

Those are the fine lines in a game like that that you need to be getting in your favour. The Galway men had the possession over and over again and kept hammering the ball back in to their forwards. Creggans defence was prob knackered with the amount of work they were doing.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2016, 09:11:28 AM
In general it seems to be a problem for antrim teams that when we face strong southern opposition we can't win our own ball :(

Creggan have done very well though. Good to see the likes of them and ahoghill improving so much in the hurling.

Did Bennetsbridge win junior last year DR?

Good point - I fully agree. So often the case for whatever reason. I suspect physicality - but also how we use our bodies seems to be we rely nice stickwork - but Southern lads put the bod in to take control of possession.

Sad to see Creggan lose - I would have like them to do well also.
Was not aware of that Coleraine "loophole" either.
Do Creggan have a chance of becoming a Divison one/ senior club in Antrim? That would be great to see also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 25, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?

Hadn't heard btdttgt,
He was with Ballycran U14's last year after being unceremoniously dumped from their senior job via a convoluted interview process and relations were strained since then.

Fair play to him, he's not the worst lad in the world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 25, 2016, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?

Depends on what way the league is now. Its one up one down from this season onwards is it not? You would see Ballygalget as the strong favs to gete back up to Div 1 again and with St Galls, Ahoghill, Carey & Glenariffe in that league as well it is a tough ask to get past all them sides.

They look to be building hurling really well at the club but its still seen as a football club first and foremost and it is where the main focus will lie with them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 25, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?

Depends on what way the league is now. Its one up one down from this season onwards is it not? You would see Ballygalget as the strong favs to gete back up to Div 1 again and with St Galls, Ahoghill, Carey & Glenariffe in that league as well it is a tough ask to get past all them sides.

They look to be building hurling really well at the club but its still seen as a football club first and foremost and it is where the main focus will lie with them.

Thought it was 2 up 2 down, but there's still a chance that may change as the year goes on!!!
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 25, 2016, 03:06:17 PM
As far as I know, it is 2 up 2down, as agreed at 2014 county convention when they voted to change to 8 team leagues in 2016.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 25, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 25, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?

Hadn't heard btdttgt,
He was with Ballycran U14's last year after being unceremoniously dumped from their senior job via a convoluted interview process and relations were strained since then.

Fair play to him, he's not the worst lad in the world.

Always wondered where the idea came from to bring in the two outsiders when they were flying last year or maybe was the year before. Looking in from the outside seemed like pure madness and proved to be so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 25, 2016, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 25, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 25, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 25, 2016, 10:33:44 AM
They are in the senior hurling championship now are they not after winning the intermediate championship last season?

Yes they'll be in senior championship - but that could be a one-off from the Intermediate win.
I was more thinking if they have a chance of staying there and becoming a division 1 team long term?

Also it seems Hannahstown have a new found love of hurling with Simon Wilson of Ballycran parachuted in - any talk on this JC?

Hadn't heard btdttgt,
He was with Ballycran U14's last year after being unceremoniously dumped from their senior job via a convoluted interview process and relations were strained since then.

Fair play to him, he's not the worst lad in the world.

Always wondered where the idea came from to bring in the two outsiders when they were flying last year or maybe was the year before. Looking in from the outside seemed like pure madness and proved to be so.

I think it was the year before (2014) they were going well league wise
He'd been heavily criticized within Ballycran for his lack of action along the line in the previous years championship (2013) final where they'd a man advantage for the better part of 50 minutes and Portaferry still managed to beat them, so maybe in respect of that he felt he needed a bit more experienced lads along with him in Jonty and the wing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

total disgrace from our club? at what juncture have we been a proven SENIOR panel? Ourselves and Na Magha made the decision to agree to enter the Derry senior championship. Not on the basis of being too strong for jnr/intermediate but purely down to the fact that we weren't getting too far forming a 2 team 2nd tier.

You are right we took a heavy beating from Swatragh at senior level in exchange for rounding the derry hurling championship out as an 8 team single tier championship. We have played a grand total of TWO senior level teams in championship ever and have lost both. Creggan beat us 2 years ago in the Ulster juniors when we had essentially the same panel. Is this the form of a senior hurling team? Or a junior team? We got well beat in the Ulster intermediate last year by Rossa. We must have forgot we were a bona fide senior team out for a jolly then as well.

Bearing in mind that the county board have alternated ourselves and Na Magha as Derrys junior and intermediate representatives for several years now, and that it was Na Maghas turn to compete at intermediate, what would you have us do for Ulster championship available to us this season, not field? You would do wonders for hurling in our club. Blame the structures that had ourselves and Na Magha switching maybe but why would we not take the competitive route open to us and advance hurling in the club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 08:13:21 PM
It's all very simple whisky, if Derry don't have a junior or intermediate hurling cship then there shouldn't be a Derry representative in either the Junior or Intermediate Ulster competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 08:13:21 PM
It's all very simple whisky, if Derry don't have a junior or intermediate hurling cship then there shouldn't be a Derry representative in either the Junior or Intermediate Ulster competition.

very simple. and will we expand this logic to Armagh, tyrone etc or just restrict it to Derry? How dare Keady and Carrickmore enter the intermediate championship. Blame those clubs too?

Maybe you could move the rant over to the Derry thread and air your grievances there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 25, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
After the county meeting tonight Ballinascreen and Eoghan Rua have been parachuted into Div.3 at the expense of Rasharkin and Bredagh. Why is it that anything goes in the hurling league structures year after year. Why can't we vote to leave well alone for a few seasons. This constant tinkering is or has achieved what exactly? It's not immediately clear to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on January 25, 2016, 11:21:31 PM
that shouldnt be allowed, wont be suprised if rasharkin and bredagh kick up,, if balinscreen and dungannon want in leagues they should play rasharkin/bredagh in a match and that should decide it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kid Twist on January 25, 2016, 11:31:43 PM
I think it is eoghan ruadh, Dungannon not Coleraine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on January 25, 2016, 11:57:37 PM
yeah dungannon,, still shouldnt be allowed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 26, 2016, 07:00:22 AM
Quote from: Last Man on January 25, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
After the county meeting tonight Ballinascreen and Eoghan Rua have been parachuted into Div.3 at the expense of Rasharkin and Bredagh. Why is it that anything goes in the hurling league structures year after year. Why can't we vote to leave well alone for a few seasons. This constant tinkering is or has achieved what exactly? It's not immediately clear to me.

You cannot be serious?  So are Rasharkin and Bredagh in Div 4?  if so that is totally unacceptable. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on January 26, 2016, 08:22:59 AM
It means two more teams in Div3; more games,no-one relegated to Div4!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2016, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on January 25, 2016, 11:21:31 PM
that shouldnt be allowed, wont be suprised if rasharkin and bredagh kick up,, if balinscreen and dungannon want in leagues they should play rasharkin/bredagh in a match and that should decide it

Surely it makes for more games at a high standard, if you know much about Ulster hurling you will know that whatever way you look at it Dungannon and Screen are at least Div 3 standard and maybe  slightly ahead of the other clubs you mentioned in their development. Played all these clubs, with good hurling people in each who I would expect just want to get on with playing games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on January 26, 2016, 09:35:02 AM
Does anyone have a list of the teams in each division now? And an idea of when the fixtures are being released?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 09:38:54 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2016, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on January 25, 2016, 11:21:31 PM
that shouldnt be allowed, wont be suprised if rasharkin and bredagh kick up,, if balinscreen and dungannon want in leagues they should play rasharkin/bredagh in a match and that should decide it

Surely it makes for more games at a high standard, if you know much about Ulster hurling you will know that whatever way you look at it Dungannon and Screen are at least Div 3 standard and maybe  slightly ahead of the other clubs you mentioned in their development. Played all these clubs, with good hurling people in each who I would expect just want to get on with playing games.

How are you surmising that Screen and Dungannon are stronger than Rasharkin and Bredagh?

I always thought you have to join into Div4 just like Bredagh and Ballyvarley?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on January 26, 2016, 09:46:28 AM
If Slaughtneil were to join the Antrim league, what division would they join?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

total disgrace from our club? at what juncture have we been a proven SENIOR panel? Ourselves and Na Magha made the decision to agree to enter the Derry senior championship. Not on the basis of being too strong for jnr/intermediate but purely down to the fact that we weren't getting too far forming a 2 team 2nd tier.

You are right we took a heavy beating from Swatragh at senior level in exchange for rounding the derry hurling championship out as an 8 team single tier championship. We have played a grand total of TWO senior level teams in championship ever and have lost both. Creggan beat us 2 years ago in the Ulster juniors when we had essentially the same panel. Is this the form of a senior hurling team? Or a junior team? We got well beat in the Ulster intermediate last year by Rossa. We must have forgot we were a bona fide senior team out for a jolly then as well.

Bearing in mind that the county board have alternated ourselves and Na Magha as Derrys junior and intermediate representatives for several years now, and that it was Na Maghas turn to compete at intermediate, what would you have us do for Ulster championship available to us this season, not field? You would do wonders for hurling in our club. Blame the structures that had ourselves and Na Magha switching maybe but why would we not take the competitive route open to us and advance hurling in the club?

Your not a junior hurling club, thats what the poster is trying to say. It is unfair that you get into an ulster competition and not have to win anything for it. The antrim junior champions have to win a championship to get there and thats what prob doesn't sit well with the poster

Its not coleraines fault, its the lack of hurling promotion within derry is the bother. The clubs are not interested in pushing the game enough. Sneill, Lavey, Swatragh all do their part as a dual club and promote both games. Dungiven are a different story as they are two separate clubs so i dont count them in the same vein as the previous clubs.

IMO you should of stayed at intermediate, i seen you last year in the ulster championship and its the level you should compete at.

I'll be for the final and will be supporting you but most def as a club you should be competing at intermediate standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
Quote from: ardtole on January 26, 2016, 09:46:28 AM
If Slaughtneil were to join the Antrim league, what division would they join?

If it were to happen based on standard it would be Div1. They are a quality side and would be far too strong for the leagues below it.

I wouldnt see them get into the top league as straight away though if it were to happen, you have to earn the right to stay in the top league over the course of a season and with an 8 team league its going to be extremely competitive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on January 26, 2016, 11:20:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

total disgrace from our club? at what juncture have we been a proven SENIOR panel? Ourselves and Na Magha made the decision to agree to enter the Derry senior championship. Not on the basis of being too strong for jnr/intermediate but purely down to the fact that we weren't getting too far forming a 2 team 2nd tier.

You are right we took a heavy beating from Swatragh at senior level in exchange for rounding the derry hurling championship out as an 8 team single tier championship. We have played a grand total of TWO senior level teams in championship ever and have lost both. Creggan beat us 2 years ago in the Ulster juniors when we had essentially the same panel. Is this the form of a senior hurling team? Or a junior team? We got well beat in the Ulster intermediate last year by Rossa. We must have forgot we were a bona fide senior team out for a jolly then as well.

Bearing in mind that the county board have alternated ourselves and Na Magha as Derrys junior and intermediate representatives for several years now, and that it was Na Maghas turn to compete at intermediate, what would you have us do for Ulster championship available to us this season, not field? You would do wonders for hurling in our club. Blame the structures that had ourselves and Na Magha switching maybe but why would we not take the competitive route open to us and advance hurling in the club?

Your not a junior hurling club, thats what the poster is trying to say. It is unfair that you get into an ulster competition and not have to win anything for it. The antrim junior champions have to win a championship to get there and thats what prob doesn't sit well with the poster

Its not coleraines fault, its the lack of hurling promotion within derry is the bother. The clubs are not interested in pushing the game enough. Sneill, Lavey, Swatragh all do their part as a dual club and promote both games. Dungiven are a different story as they are two separate clubs so i dont count them in the same vein as the previous clubs.

IMO you should of stayed at intermediate, i seen you last year in the ulster championship and its the level you should compete at.

I'll be for the final and will be supporting you but most def as a club you should be competing at intermediate standard.

I take most of that on board, but what I took issue with in the original post from cfclg was the blaming of our club. I want to repeat 2 things and make them clear when reading rants against the club (tear away at the Ulster council etc):

1. There is no separate junior and intermediate championship to win in Derry, all 8 teams are now thrown together in the one championship despite a clear gulf in class with 2 (ourselves and Na Magha) having been at the lower level and then mandated to move up by agreement, not promotion. The hope is this bears fruit in the long term.

2. As there is no separate junior and intermediate championship a system has been put in place for several years (not by ourselves) that alternates ourselves and Na Magha as the provinical representation for jnr/int. This year was Na Maghas turn to go to intermediate, so to politely contradict the suggestion in your post that we had a choice; we did not. Our choice was to enter junior or not enter anything. What would you have us do within the bounds of this system?

We cannot help the lack of available clubs in Derry to form a second tier within the county, nor can we advance hurling in the club by refusing to field for championships. Competing in junior was the only option left open to us this year. By all means criticise the structures but cfclg made it clear he blamed us for our entry into the junior and would rather we 'put the feet up' and this was what prompted my response, as well as the complete begrudgery toward us.

In any case, as the Ulster junior winners we wont be back in junior for a number of years (i think there is a rule to this effect) so this issue will go away next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on January 26, 2016, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

total disgrace from our club? at what juncture have we been a proven SENIOR panel? Ourselves and Na Magha made the decision to agree to enter the Derry senior championship. Not on the basis of being too strong for jnr/intermediate but purely down to the fact that we weren't getting too far forming a 2 team 2nd tier.

You are right we took a heavy beating from Swatragh at senior level in exchange for rounding the derry hurling championship out as an 8 team single tier championship. We have played a grand total of TWO senior level teams in championship ever and have lost both. Creggan beat us 2 years ago in the Ulster juniors when we had essentially the same panel. Is this the form of a senior hurling team? Or a junior team? We got well beat in the Ulster intermediate last year by Rossa. We must have forgot we were a bona fide senior team out for a jolly then as well.

Bearing in mind that the county board have alternated ourselves and Na Magha as Derrys junior and intermediate representatives for several years now, and that it was Na Maghas turn to compete at intermediate, what would you have us do for Ulster championship available to us this season, not field? You would do wonders for hurling in our club. Blame the structures that had ourselves and Na Magha switching maybe but why would we not take the competitive route open to us and advance hurling in the club?

Your not a junior hurling club, thats what the poster is trying to say. It is unfair that you get into an ulster competition and not have to win anything for it. The antrim junior champions have to win a championship to get there and thats what prob doesn't sit well with the poster

Its not coleraines fault, its the lack of hurling promotion within derry is the bother. The clubs are not interested in pushing the game enough. Sneill, Lavey, Swatragh all do their part as a dual club and promote both games. Dungiven are a different story as they are two separate clubs so i dont count them in the same vein as the previous clubs.

IMO you should of stayed at intermediate, i seen you last year in the ulster championship and its the level you should compete at.

I'll be for the final and will be supporting you but most def as a club you should be competing at intermediate standard.

2014 was a bit of a red herring tbh in terms of our intermediate performance.
We were getting a 10point beating by Bredagh with ten mins to go and fluked 3 goals and a couple of points to beat them.
We played exceptionally well to beat an underpar Carrickmore side and then got our asses handed to us in the final against a proper intermediate side in Rossa.
The last time we were ever near an Intermediate final was 2004 I believe.

If we had in the past consistently made Ulster Junior finals then there may be a case that we should be intermediate. As it stood we had never even made a final until 2015 when we won it.

Im sure if it makes cfclg feel better we can ask the county board to start the junior championship up again and get that one match cleared up out of the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
That
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 26, 2016, 11:20:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 25, 2016, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 25, 2016, 07:38:06 AM
I have a rant to get off my chest:

See all these people on social media congratulating Coleraine hurlers on their victory in the All Ireland JUNIOR hurling semi. CATCH YOURSELVES ON!

Coleraine were beaten at the quarter final stage of the Derry SENIOR hurling championship by Swatragh in July. Instead of taking their beating like the majority of us and putting the feet up for the winter they decided to use an obvious loophole in the provincial council's rule book and play in an All Ireland JUNIOR competition.

No other provincial council would allow this to happen but I place most of the blame with the club themselves. Its a total disgrace and any victory here will be a shallow one IMO.

End of rant.

total disgrace from our club? at what juncture have we been a proven SENIOR panel? Ourselves and Na Magha made the decision to agree to enter the Derry senior championship. Not on the basis of being too strong for jnr/intermediate but purely down to the fact that we weren't getting too far forming a 2 team 2nd tier.

You are right we took a heavy beating from Swatragh at senior level in exchange for rounding the derry hurling championship out as an 8 team single tier championship. We have played a grand total of TWO senior level teams in championship ever and have lost both. Creggan beat us 2 years ago in the Ulster juniors when we had essentially the same panel. Is this the form of a senior hurling team? Or a junior team? We got well beat in the Ulster intermediate last year by Rossa. We must have forgot we were a bona fide senior team out for a jolly then as well.

Bearing in mind that the county board have alternated ourselves and Na Magha as Derrys junior and intermediate representatives for several years now, and that it was Na Maghas turn to compete at intermediate, what would you have us do for Ulster championship available to us this season, not field? You would do wonders for hurling in our club. Blame the structures that had ourselves and Na Magha switching maybe but why would we not take the competitive route open to us and advance hurling in the club?

Your not a junior hurling club, thats what the poster is trying to say. It is unfair that you get into an ulster competition and not have to win anything for it. The antrim junior champions have to win a championship to get there and thats what prob doesn't sit well with the poster

Its not coleraines fault, its the lack of hurling promotion within derry is the bother. The clubs are not interested in pushing the game enough. Sneill, Lavey, Swatragh all do their part as a dual club and promote both games. Dungiven are a different story as they are two separate clubs so i dont count them in the same vein as the previous clubs.

IMO you should of stayed at intermediate, i seen you last year in the ulster championship and its the level you should compete at.

I'll be for the final and will be supporting you but most def as a club you should be competing at intermediate standard.

I take most of that on board, but what I took issue with in the original post from cfclg was the blaming of our club. I want to repeat 2 things and make them clear when reading rants against the club (tear away at the Ulster council etc):

1. There is no separate junior and intermediate championship to win in Derry, all 8 teams are now thrown together in the one championship despite a clear gulf in class with 2 (ourselves and Na Magha) having been at the lower level and then mandated to move up by agreement, not promotion. The hope is this bears fruit in the long term.

2. As there is no separate junior and intermediate championship a system has been put in place for several years (not by ourselves) that alternates ourselves and Na Magha as the provinical representation for jnr/int. This year was Na Maghas turn to go to intermediate, so to politely contradict the suggestion in your post that we had a choice; we did not. Our choice was to enter junior or not enter anything. What would you have us do within the bounds of this system?

We cannot help the lack of available clubs in Derry to form a second tier within the county, nor can we advance hurling in the club by refusing to field for championships. Competing in junior was the only option left open to us this year. By all means criticise the structures but cfclg made it clear he blamed us for our entry into the junior and would rather we 'put the feet up' and this was what prompted my response, as well as the complete begrudgery toward us.

In any case, as the Ulster junior winners we wont be back in junior for a number of years (i think there is a rule to this effect) so this issue will go away next season.

Its the same in armagh where they have a senior and junior championship and no intermediate. The senior winners go into the senior championship. the junior winners go into the ulster junior but the intermediate is a different set up. Its the beaten finalists plus the semi final losers who make up that rep. Ive no idea how it works exactly but thats where Keady came from this year.

The fact theres not even a junior championship in derry is very disappointing. For a county so big and full of so many clubs for them not to have enough hurling teams is shocking. I know the derry board dont care, that much is evident with the lack of interest in the development of the game.

Ive followed Derry hurling and football for years (my mums from co derry) following the club scene so ive always had a strong interest in it. What annoys me is the both the lack of interest from clubs and the county towards hurling, meanwhile clubs like Na Magha & Coleraine are pushing the code on with no obvious push from the county.

No doubt the reps will be in croke park for the final for the free day out and show their faces!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Whisky and Doodaa.

The fact that there is some sort of rotation system between the two clubs as to which gets entered into what Ulster cship says it all really! Neither club is Junior level standard (I've watched both and know the county players involved). Derry county board should have you playoff in an intermediate final to decide who represents the county in Ulster. Its only one match but happens a lot in Co Down etc and you were only getting one match at senior cship anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2016, 12:48:59 PM
Derry Hurling Senior
Lynches
Screen
Swatragh
Slaughtneil
Banagher
Lavey

Intermediate
Eoghan Rua

Junior
Na Magha

This is the level Derry clubs are at as of now 2016. At the start of the 2015, you would have put Eoghan Rua in junior. Neither them or Na Magha have ever won Ulster junior until this year so without any doubt they were correctly graded.
Na Magha were easily beat by div 4 side Carryduff in intermediate. Both teams were hammered in Derry championship.

Resurrect the junior championship in Derry if they wish but as much as it hurts me to say it, Eoghan Rua will beat Na Magha easily.
Fair play Eoghan have made real progress this year and have now managed to reach Croke Park in 3 codes.
As Dooda said they were lucky against Bredagh and as Whiskey correctly said they will now have to play intermediate for 5 years.
Its up to Na Magha to try and progress to where Eoghan Rua are so that we could have an intermediate game in Derry. But as it stands there is a gap between the two and a bigger gap them and the rest of Derry.

Eoghan Rua and Na Magha are trying their best in very difficult circumstances to keep the game going and need all the encouragement they can get.

BTW. Donegal senior runners up go to junior and winners Intermediate too. Courses for horses.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2016, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Whisky and Doodaa.

The fact that there is some sort of rotation system between the two clubs as to which gets entered into what Ulster cship says it all really! Neither club is Junior level standard (I've watched both and know the county players involved). Derry county board should have you playoff in an intermediate final to decide who represents the county in Ulster. Its only one match but happens a lot in Co Down etc and you were only getting one match at senior cship anyway.

Individuals don't determine a clubs strength. Paul Galvin(junior football Kerry), Ger Aylward(junior hurling Kilkenny) etc etc.  Sure Lamh Dhearg are playing junior in Antrim with 3 county players. Shane ONeills have county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on January 26, 2016, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Whisky and Doodaa.

The fact that there is some sort of rotation system between the two clubs as to which gets entered into what Ulster cship says it all really! Neither club is Junior level standard (I've watched both and know the county players involved). Derry county board should have you playoff in an intermediate final to decide who represents the county in Ulster. Its only one match but happens a lot in Co Down etc and you were only getting one match at senior cship anyway.

Did Creggan not beat Coleraine in the Junior semi-final a couple of years ago?

If Coleraine were an intermediate team surely they would of won the Ulster title then?  They have now managed to win Junior and will move up to Intermediate level. Not much to see here for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times

The much heralded Táin league is on its uppers it seems and with a lot of other county hurling leagues not providing the games required are turning to Antrim for regular fixtures.

Speaks volumes for what Ulster Gaelic Football Association are doing for hurling...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times

The much heralded Táin league is on its uppers it seems and with a lot of other county hurling leagues not providing the games required are turning to Antrim for regular fixtures.

Speaks volumes for what Ulster Gaelic Football Association are doing for hurling...

Now Now JC sure isnt there a big shiny conference on the 6th of Feb - Developing hurling in Ulster. That should sort it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times

The much heralded Táin league is on its uppers it seems and with a lot of other county hurling leagues not providing the games required are turning to Antrim for regular fixtures.

Speaks volumes for what Ulster Gaelic Football Association are doing for hurling...

Now Now JC sure isnt there a big shiny conference on the 6th of Feb - Developing hurling in Ulster. That should sort it out.

In Cookstown?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times

The much heralded Táin league is on its uppers it seems and with a lot of other county hurling leagues not providing the games required are turning to Antrim for regular fixtures.

Speaks volumes for what Ulster Gaelic Football Association are doing for hurling...

Now Now JC sure isnt there a big shiny conference on the 6th of Feb - Developing hurling in Ulster. That should sort it out.

In Cookstown?

Well renowned as being a hurling stronghold  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2016, 03:17:23 PM
i agree JC, the ulster council pays lip service to hurling and nothing more. All you have to do is follow the twitter page and you have blow by blow accounts from the mckenna cup matches yet nothing on the McGurk cup final. They would rather have went to the football match than an aul hurling match.

Even popular media like the Irish news has it columns devoted to football. We have benny tierney, aaron kernan, Philip Jordan & Danny hughes. How much bloody football do we need to read about? How about a dedicated hurling column each week about the local scene instead of constant flow of football.

Ive started to go off the paper as its totally football orientated.

Edit: just checked today's paper and we have 9 pages on football and one small picture & reference about the conference in cookstown coming up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whiskeysteve on January 26, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Whisky and Doodaa.

The fact that there is some sort of rotation system between the two clubs as to which gets entered into what Ulster cship says it all really! Neither club is Junior level standard (I've watched both and know the county players involved). Derry county board should have you playoff in an intermediate final to decide who represents the county in Ulster. Its only one match but happens a lot in Co Down etc and you were only getting one match at senior cship anyway.

Whether you think we are junior standard or not is a moot point in laying the blame at our door (why?) as when it comes to the tier we play at we were not the decision makers here.

p.s. the team we are playing in the junior final, Glenmore of Kilkenny, have 2 All Stars and 3 of the players have 8 All Ireland medals between them. How do we dwarf that from our lofty heights of getting hammered in the first round of the Derry championship by Swatragh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 26, 2016, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 26, 2016, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 09:56:26 AM
Essentially Antrim hurling leagues are now becoming an Ulster league for the elite!

Should we encourage this?

Perhaps Burt from Donegal and few others that want to take the game seriously will be putting their hat in the ring next year?

If it wasn't for the amount of travelling I would welcome this idea.

Changing times

The much heralded Táin league is on its uppers it seems and with a lot of other county hurling leagues not providing the games required are turning to Antrim for regular fixtures.

Speaks volumes for what Ulster Gaelic Football Association are doing for hurling...

Now Now JC sure isnt there a big shiny conference on the 6th of Feb - Developing hurling in Ulster. That should sort it out.

In Cookstown?

Well renowned as being a hurling stronghold  ;D

I could get to Dublin quicker than going around the lough! Bet they wouldn't consider holding a football one in Loughgeil!

I still might go though, haven't made my mind up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 26, 2016, 04:54:05 PM
same day as the cdall match, thats whats causing me to debate on going as well. I want to go to both them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 27, 2016, 09:53:49 AM
Having this conference next weekend in Cookstown is a bit like having the Football equivalent in Loughiel on the same day as Crossmaglen are in an All Ireland football semi final!

I realise these things have to be planned well in advance but have a bit of sense, cdall match was always going to be on first couple of wknds in Feb.

Another own goal by Ulster council
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 27, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on January 26, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 26, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Whisky and Doodaa.

The fact that there is some sort of rotation system between the two clubs as to which gets entered into what Ulster cship says it all really! Neither club is Junior level standard (I've watched both and know the county players involved). Derry county board should have you playoff in an intermediate final to decide who represents the county in Ulster. Its only one match but happens a lot in Co Down etc and you were only getting one match at senior cship anyway.

Whether you think we are junior standard or not is a moot point in laying the blame at our door (why?) as when it comes to the tier we play at we were not the decision makers here.

p.s. the team we are playing in the junior final, Glenmore of Kilkenny, have 2 All Stars and 3 of the players have 8 All Ireland medals between them. How do we dwarf that from our lofty heights of getting hammered in the first round of the Derry championship by Swatragh?

Ok ok Whisky you win, you're right and I'm wrong.

I'm only giving you the view that many people, who are not as close to the club as you are and don't have all the details, will have when a team that competed in the Derry senior county cship ends up playing in a junior all-Ireland competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 28, 2016, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 26, 2016, 04:54:05 PM
same day as the cdall match, thats whats causing me to debate on going as well. I want to go to both them

This alone sums up the attitude toward our game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2016, 10:18:36 AM
It is unbelievable really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2016, 10:18:36 AM
It is unbelievable really.

Heard who your new senior hurling manager is. Good appointment I would say. The players will like him anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 28, 2016, 05:04:22 PM
Who got the job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 28, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 28, 2016, 05:04:22 PM
Who got the job?
Johnny Campbell. Martin Gillan and Paddy ginger.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 09:46:34 PM
I'd say the players will be happy as Larry playing for Johnny Campbell. He seems to be a good chap. It's going to be an interesting year come senior championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 09:46:34 PM
I'd say the players will be happy as Larry playing for Johnny Campbell. He seems to be a good chap. It's going to be an interesting year come senior championship.


Should be alright. Anyone know the breakdown of championship gradings this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 28, 2016, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 09:46:34 PM
I'd say the players will be happy as Larry playing for Johnny Campbell. He seems to be a good chap. It's going to be an interesting year come senior championship.


Should be alright. Anyone know the breakdown of championship gradings this year

I'm assuming Cushendall loughgiel ballycastle & Dunloy are seeded to play St John's Rossa Creggan and anyone else who plays senior?
If st Galls & clooney go to intermediate (via division 2 status) will one of the seeded teams get a bye to the semis?
That would be horrendous for the integrity of our championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 29, 2016, 08:20:47 AM
Clooney & St Galls are in the senior championship

Draws to take place on Monday Night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2016, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 28, 2016, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 09:46:34 PM
I'd say the players will be happy as Larry playing for Johnny Campbell. He seems to be a good chap. It's going to be an interesting year come senior championship.


Should be alright. Anyone know the breakdown of championship gradings this year


I'm assuming Cushendall loughgiel ballycastle & Dunloy are seeded to play St John's Rossa Creggan and anyone else who plays senior?
If st Galls & clooney go to intermediate (via division 2 status) will one of the seeded teams get a bye to the semis?
That would be horrendous for the integrity of our championship!


Was the grading not based on the final league positions?

If thats the case then its Lgiel, Cdall, Dunloy & St. Johns. Ballycastle wont be graded then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 29, 2016, 10:01:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2016, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 28, 2016, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 28, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 28, 2016, 09:46:34 PM
I'd say the players will be happy as Larry playing for Johnny Campbell. He seems to be a good chap. It's going to be an interesting year come senior championship.


Should be alright. Anyone know the breakdown of championship gradings this year


I'm assuming Cushendall loughgiel ballycastle & Dunloy are seeded to play St John's Rossa Creggan and anyone else who plays senior?
If st Galls & clooney go to intermediate (via division 2 status) will one of the seeded teams get a bye to the semis?
That would be horrendous for the integrity of our championship!


Was the grading not based on the final league positions?

If thats the case then its Lgiel, Cdall, Dunloy & St. Johns. Ballycastle wont be graded then.

Correct
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
I heard that last night and wasnt too sure about it.

Ballycastle, St Johns, Rossa, Ahoghill, St Galls & Creggan are all unseeded
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 29, 2016, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
I heard that last night and wasnt too sure about it.

Ballycastle, St Johns, Rossa, Ahoghill, St Galls & Creggan are all unseeded

St John are seeded AFAIK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 29, 2016, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 29, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
I heard that last night and wasnt too sure about it.

Ballycastle, St Johns, Rossa, Ahoghill, St Galls & Creggan are all unseeded

St John are seeded AFAIK

My bad, your right, they finished above us this year in the league.

Here im sure with them league games that were not played it could have changed how the final 4 were made up. We didnt get to play Lgiel, St Galls or Ballycastle at the end up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on January 29, 2016, 11:08:27 AM
Yep as far as I know we are unseeded. That means we will be playing one of Loughgiel, Cushendall, St John's or Dunloy in a quarter final. I think everyone assumed this years seedlings were based on the four semi finalists of 2015 championship, I know we certainly did. Should have been made more clear from the outset how import your league position was. Going forward this makes all the league games more important I suppose. Every team will be pushing hard now in the league to make sure you finish in top 4 Antrim clubs. Maybe a good thing to have more competitive games and importance placed on the league. Can't see too many clubs playing league games without county players now. .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2016, 11:40:02 AM
Theres a chance you could also be in a preliminary round as well against Rossa, Creggan, Ahoghill or St Galls as theres 5 teams unseeded.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 29, 2016, 02:41:32 PM
What teams would be intermediate and junior
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Post by: btdtgtt on January 29, 2016, 02:48:20 PM
Makes sense thank you guys - roll on Monday to see what the draw throws up for the season ahead!
I'm hopeful PJ's tenure will lead to a more coherent club season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 29, 2016, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 29, 2016, 02:48:20 PM
Makes sense thank you guys - roll on Monday to see what the draw throws up for the season ahead!
I'm hopeful PJ's tenure will lead to a more coherent club season.
PJ has already started off on a positive note in that regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 29, 2016, 08:32:54 PM
Pjs position on leagues will be based on the teams progress or lack of as with every other manager, if he isn't doing as well as we hope he'll look for the players more often. For Cushendall's perspective we would be worried if all the players called up, go we may as well train along with the County!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 01, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Anyone a gut feeling about tonight's draw?
Who would be the team to avoid - if Dunloy are not seeded I assume it's them.
In terms of the big guns - if a "lesser" side is going to beat Cushendall I would think you would want them in the first round.
Anyone think of the most interesting pairing or potential shock?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 01, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
I assume it will be all on twitter as it happens the night?

Interested to see who we will get, as far i know were seeded. TBH i dont mind who we get whether it be Ballycastle or Creggan.

I dont hold much hope of us winning it as i feel were still a bit off from challenging for top spot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 01, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 01, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
I assume it will be all on twitter as it happens the night?

Interested to see who we will get, as far i know were seeded. TBH i dont mind who we get whether it be Ballycastle or Creggan.

I dont hold much hope of us winning it as i feel were still a bit off from challenging for top spot.

Same mistake again from me sorry! Yes Ballycastle unseeded and therefore the team to avoid!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 01, 2016, 02:07:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 01, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 01, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
I assume it will be all on twitter as it happens the night?

Interested to see who we will get, as far i know were seeded. TBH i dont mind who we get whether it be Ballycastle or Creggan.

I dont hold much hope of us winning it as i feel were still a bit off from challenging for top spot.

Same mistake again from me sorry! Yes Ballycastle unseeded and therefore the team to avoid!

Yeah I would say everyone is thinking the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2016, 08:48:44 PM
St johns rossa in the quarters.

Looks like ballycastle dunloy assuming ballycastle get past ahoghill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 01, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Preliminary Round
Ballycastle V Clooney Gaels

Quarter Finals
A. Dunloy V Prelimary Winner
B. St Johns V Rossa
C. Ruairi Og V Creggan
D. Loughgiel V St Galls

Semi Finals
C V B
A V D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 01, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
That's it so.  Cdall big favorites for the three in a row.   Town V Dunloy has makings of a cracker!!  Any dates yet??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Just Puck It on February 01, 2016, 09:51:32 PM
How many times in the last 5/6 years have Loughgiel played St Galls in the first round?  Seems to stick out that's it been a fair few?!

I'd imagine dates will be around the same as normal.

Quarter Finals on the weekend of 27th/28th August.  Semi Finals a fortnight later, and final a fortnight after that.  Preliminary round played around beginning to middle of August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 01, 2016, 10:09:55 PM
Cushendall the happiest team tonight despite having a certain other fixture on their minds!

At least I won't have any bother choosing which fixture to watch myself!
Johnnies done an easy double over rossa last year and showing the benefits of being seeded.

Disappointing draw again for st galls unfortunately.

Big test for the Paddies in the intermediate 1st round - gnm will be happier.
That championship is wide open!
Perhaps Carey to win it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 02, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 01, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
That's it so.  Cdall big favorites for the three in a row.   Town V Dunloy has makings of a cracker!!  Any dates yet??

I'd have to say my money would be on the town this year, especially with Cushendall going to be without McManus and Graffin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 02, 2016, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 02, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 01, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
That's it so.  Cdall big favorites for the three in a row.   Town V Dunloy has makings of a cracker!!  Any dates yet??

I'd have to say my money would be on the town this year, especially with Cushendall going to be without McManus and Graffin

I'd say McManus and Graffin will be home for club championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2016, 09:38:01 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2016, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 02, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 01, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
That's it so.  Cdall big favorites for the three in a row.   Town V Dunloy has makings of a cracker!!  Any dates yet??

I'd have to say my money would be on the town this year, especially with Cushendall going to be without McManus and Graffin

I'd say McManus and Graffin will be home for club championship.

So they are just holidaying during the NHL period?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2016, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2016, 09:38:01 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 02, 2016, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 02, 2016, 08:55:49 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 01, 2016, 09:38:50 PM
That's it so.  Cdall big favorites for the three in a row.   Town V Dunloy has makings of a cracker!!  Any dates yet??

I'd have to say my money would be on the town this year, especially with Cushendall going to be without McManus and Graffin

I'd say McManus and Graffin will be home for club championship.

So they are just holidaying during the NHL period?

ASFAIK they are both away for a year travelling, that would include the club season unless something changes in their plans between now and then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 02, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
A cynic might suggest they will arrive home somewhere in between the end of the county season - and the start of club championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 02, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
interesting draw. How many times have ourselves and ballycastle met on the same side of the championship this past few years? we seem to be up against each other all the time.

Cdall will be favs to make the final on that side of the draw. Unfortunate for St Galls getting lgiel again.

Could be ourselves or the town v Lgiel in the semi final which would be a great game for the neutral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 12:04:30 PM
I'd be surprised myself if both weren't home for championship, tho I heard Neill wasn't going traveling to May.  If so he won't be gone long.  Maybe come home for the final,  is Cdall injury free on Saturday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 02, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
I suppose with so few teams - and the imbalance / different levels of top teams - we shouldn't be surprised of repeat fixtures year on year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:53:51 PM
Cdall better hope sarsfield don't get a hold of county Antrim post.    What a clown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 02, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
i honestly fail to see where he has made a clown of himself? what exactly do you not like SG?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 02, 2016, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness?

Going by last years league results I think he is safe enough
?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
wrong thread  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 02, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Not like there isn't plenty of 'video' out there for them to make up their own minds anyway eh SG  ;)

No need to worry about what the Co A Post has to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 02, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness?

See what you mean now, your being a tad harsh tho. Im pretty sure theres plenty of other managers in antrim have said similar things in interviews.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 02, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness?

See what you mean now, your being a tad harsh tho. Im pretty sure theres plenty of other managers in antrim have said similar things in interviews.
and regardless who says it.  They'd be branded a clown in my opinion, Jesus what ever happened to going in under the radar. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2016, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 02, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness?

See what you mean now, your being a tad harsh tho. Im pretty sure theres plenty of other managers in antrim have said similar things in interviews.
and regardless who says it.  They'd be branded a clown in my opinion, Jesus what ever happened to going in under the radar.

Id say any team that gets to a semi final is nit going in under the radar unless the opposing team and mentors are complete dciks!!

Here's motivation that managers use.... One game away from stepping out at Croke park on St Patricks' day!! Anyone need more motivation than that needs to do something else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2016, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 02, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 02, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Who points out the other teams weakness?

See what you mean now, your being a tad harsh tho. Im pretty sure theres plenty of other managers in antrim have said similar things in interviews.
and regardless who says it.  They'd be branded a clown in my opinion, Jesus what ever happened to going in under the radar.

Id say any team that gets to a semi final is nit going in under the radar unless the opposing team and mentors are complete dciks!!

Here's motivation that managers use.... One game away from stepping out at Croke park on St Patricks' day!! Anyone need more motivation than that needs to do something else
. Obviously!!!!   But a northern team going down should leave it as quite as possible without doing a Dinny Cahal on it.   Only my opinion.  Which counts for f**k all. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on February 02, 2016, 09:58:47 PM
Or maybe your just trying to get a reaction sg. As all has been quiet on this in regards to the impending match at the weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2016, 12:40:27 AM
Not in the slightest.  Just an opinion. Didn't think he should be bringing up a certain player for whatever reason. Young or old.  For 99/100 it only brings the best out of whoever is in question. That sort of chat should have been kept for the dressing room if he believes it to be a weakness. Other than that, it wasn't as bad as my first read. Only my opinion    Not having a go.  Move on. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 03, 2016, 09:29:06 AM
Anyone read todays irish news back page yet?

Dublin county received more funding for Games Development last year than the whole of Ulster. The county got 1.46m euro while Ulster got 1.27m euro in funding.

You look even further and antrim county (the second largest population behind dublin) received 47,400 euro.

Laois received 81,800 euro in games dev funding as their county had been identified as 5 counties to have the potential at competing at Liam McCarthy level - this 5 didnt include Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly for any funding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 03, 2016, 09:37:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2016, 09:29:06 AM
Anyone read todays irish news back page yet?

Dublin county received more funding for Games Development last year than the whole of Ulster. The county got 1.46m euro while Ulster got 1.27m euro in funding.

You look even further and antrim county (the second largest population behind dublin) received 47,400 euro.

Laois received 81,800 euro in games dev funding as their county had been identified as 5 counties to have the potential at competing at Liam McCarthy level - this 5 didnt include Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly for any funding.

All valid points, but what do you expect from Ulster Council?

The UC continually show their attitude toward hurling within the province and this is not a typical hurling person gripe, the latest evidence of this is the Conference this weekend.

How to develop hurling in Ulster - Any hurling person that I know within Ulster that has a genuine interest will be travelling to Navan to watch the Semi Final. The biggest day for club hurling and they bang a conference in on the same day.

Now dont get me wrong the conference is a lovely idea and looks to have some decent content, but here is the rub, whats the panic for it?
We all know the dates for the club hurling semi finals, first or second weekend in Feb every year without fail. So why not block out these two dates and go any other weekend?

Seriously the more I think about this the angrier I get, these are our paid officers and officials and this is the respect that they show to us as hurling gaels. Simply not good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 03, 2016, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2016, 12:40:27 AM
Not in the slightest.  Just an opinion. Didn't think he should be bringing up a certain player for whatever reason. Young or old.  For 99/100 it only brings the best out of whoever is in question. That sort of chat should have been kept for the dressing room if he believes it to be a weakness. Other than that, it wasn't as bad as my first read. Only my opinion    Not having a go.  Move on.

Agree
Not quite as bad as dinny in 04 v cork but best to keep your powder dry
That sarsfield team is gonna be hard to crack
Kevin Hynes is in the full back line so no point in pumping ball in there regardless of the othe cornerbacks age
Young cooney, noel morriseys kid and kerril wade up front
They are sprinkled with county panellist and a lot of players who have minor and u21 all Ireland hurling medals
I still think the dall can beat them and will be cheering them on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 03, 2016, 09:58:37 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 03, 2016, 09:37:54 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2016, 09:29:06 AM
Anyone read todays irish news back page yet?

Dublin county received more funding for Games Development last year than the whole of Ulster. The county got 1.46m euro while Ulster got 1.27m euro in funding.

You look even further and antrim county (the second largest population behind dublin) received 47,400 euro.

Laois received 81,800 euro in games dev funding as their county had been identified as 5 counties to have the potential at competing at Liam McCarthy level - this 5 didnt include Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly for any funding.

All valid points, but what do you expect from Ulster Council?

The UC continually show their attitude toward hurling within the province and this is not a typical hurling person gripe, the latest evidence of this is the Conference this weekend.

How to develop hurling in Ulster - Any hurling person that I know within Ulster that has a genuine interest will be travelling to Navan to watch the Semi Final. The biggest day for club hurling and they bang a conference in on the same day.

Now dont get me wrong the conference is a lovely idea and looks to have some decent content, but here is the rub, whats the panic for it?
We all know the dates for the club hurling semi finals, first or second weekend in Feb every year without fail. So why not block out these two dates and go any other weekend?

Seriously the more I think about this the angrier I get, these are our paid officers and officials and this is the respect that they show to us as hurling gaels. Simply not good enough.

100% agree NAG. Complete madness. I, like many others would attend this conf if it didn't clash with one of the biggest club games of the year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 03, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
At our club meeting on Monday night this conference was mentioned and the first thing that was said was 'what idiot organised that the same day as the cdall match?'.

Like most people i will be watching the match on sat, i cant make it on sat down to Navan so the tv will suffice.

As others pointed out, the date for the game was set, they all knew what weekend it was yet they still ploughed on ahead, to suit themselves. It looks a great day and i was going to head down to it. Paudie Butler alone is well worth listening to as ive attended his sessions before and i dont doubt the rest will all offer a lot of good information.

The UC has to do more other that pay lip service to hurling and so do the individual county boards themselves. The cavan co board have to take a look at themselves for allowing there to be no hurling representation at adult level. That alone should have the UC on alert to look and see what can be done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2016, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2016, 09:29:06 AM
Anyone read todays irish news back page yet?

Dublin county received more funding for Games Development last year than the whole of Ulster. The county got 1.46m euro while Ulster got 1.27m euro in funding.

You look even further and antrim county (the second largest population behind dublin) received 47,400 euro.

Based on playing population / club membership (ie) per capita - this funding is easily justifiable by the top brass.
In fact, it has been consistently justified on this basis.

Laois received 81,800 euro in games dev funding as their county had been identified as 5 counties to have the potential at competing at Liam McCarthy level - this 5 didnt include Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly for any funding.

I agree this notion that someone's opinion can "identifying counties" is outrageous. In terms of securing funding - it's about Antrm & Ulster putting definitive plans together - costing and justifying them - then applying for specific funding for them. It cannot be just a begging bowl assuming money will lead to progress.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 03, 2016, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 03, 2016, 12:40:27 AM
Not in the slightest.  Just an opinion. Didn't think he should be bringing up a certain player for whatever reason. Young or old.  For 99/100 it only brings the best out of whoever is in question. That sort of chat should have been kept for the dressing room if he believes it to be a weakness. Other than that, it wasn't as bad as my first read. Only my opinion    Not having a go.  Move on.

Agree
Not quite as bad as dinny in 04 v cork but best to keep your powder dry
That sarsfield team is gonna be hard to crack
Kevin Hynes is in the full back line so no point in pumping ball in there regardless of the othe cornerbacks age
Young cooney, noel morriseys kid and kerril wade up front
They are sprinkled with county panellist and a lot of players who have minor and u21 all Ireland hurling medals
I still think the dall can beat them and will be cheering them on
they'll take beating. Everyone does at this stage,  I believe Cdall will be in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 03, 2016, 01:59:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 03, 2016, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2016, 09:29:06 AM
Anyone read todays irish news back page yet?

Dublin county received more funding for Games Development last year than the whole of Ulster. The county got 1.46m euro while Ulster got 1.27m euro in funding.

You look even further and antrim county (the second largest population behind dublin) received 47,400 euro.

Based on playing population / club membership (ie) per capita - this funding is easily justifiable by the top brass.
In fact, it has been consistently justified on this basis.

Laois received 81,800 euro in games dev funding as their county had been identified as 5 counties to have the potential at competing at Liam McCarthy level - this 5 didnt include Antrim, Carlow, Westmeath and Offaly for any funding.

I agree this notion that someone's opinion can "identifying counties" is outrageous. In terms of securing funding - it's about Antrm & Ulster putting definitive plans together - costing and justifying them - then applying for specific funding for them. It cannot be just a begging bowl assuming money will lead to progress.


Sorry btdtgtt i was reposting a few snippets from the Irish News there.

I do agree with your points though what the gaa top brass dont take into account is the break down of the population of Antrim in their arguments for the funding. what they dont take in mind is 80% of the population f the county would rather walk on glass that even attend a GAA match and of the 20% left less than half are involved in the GAA.

Most clubs dont have a big membership anyway. Ours is about 120 for camogie and just over 320 for male non and playing members. Thats not exactly massive in terms of some of the dublin clubs who have over 1000 in their numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 03, 2016, 02:11:16 PM
Does it mention what proportion of the GPO are paid directly by clubs?

Or is it just an overall number within Dublin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2016, 03:07:18 PM
Yes I agree DR.
I suppose we're not much different to other sports regarding the re-distribution of fund - often hear the soccer crowd talking about TV money etc.
There's definitely a perception Dublin is favoured - despite how it can be justified in terms of numbers.
And definitely smaller numbers in Antrim!
I said before I've no idea why some people try to compare Dublin & Belfast for in GAA terms - they have next to nothing in common!

One point on finance however - I would much rather seen every penny put into "promoting" hurling abroad - put into counties like Antrim. This idea of internationonal-ising our games is nothing more than junkets, ego-trips and vanity projects. All while clubs at home struggle to make ends meet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 03, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Its an easy get out clause for the top brass in the GAA as to why Dublin get so much money.

Come championship they get home games all the time and we hear the same tired argument each year that all those counties love the chance to get playing at croke park - aye thats great if you play in the Leinster championship!!

They need to start distributing the money more evenly and not based on who has more. The idea of the GAA is to spread the wealth to all the clubs in Ireland not to aid those counties who have a better step up than others more handsomely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 03, 2016, 05:34:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 03, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Its an easy get out clause for the top brass in the GAA as to why Dublin get so much money.

Come championship they get home games all the time and we hear the same tired argument each year that all those counties love the chance to get playing at croke park - aye thats great if you play in the Leinster championship!!

They need to start distributing the money more evenly and not based on who has more. The idea of the GAA is to spread the wealth to all the clubs in Ireland not to aid those counties who have a better step up than others more handsomely.

That's the elephant in the room also.
As you say - Dublin or whoever else packing out Croke Park should be redistributed amongst clubs around Ireland.
The reality is that the club & county games are now so far apart they are almost separate organisations.
What once stood clubs - now we have county development squads. This is where the cash goes - not to the clubs. And invariably the county executives actually distribute their money top heavy - that's is to their senior team (celebrity managers!) rather than underage.
The foundation of the Gaa in the clubs is being neglected - peel away the glossy commercial side of croke park big days - and the structure isn't as sound as it used to be.
I fear the gaa like rugby will reap what we sow - and the club scene withers.
The difference here is that gaa is much more critical to Irish society that rugby!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 04, 2016, 09:00:45 AM
Antrim is prob the exception to the rule whereas the club is more important than the county. Areas like Cdall, Lgiel, Dunloy, etc life revolves around the club. There is nothing else in those areas that means more than the GAA club.

I was in a Lgiel mans house last night for a work matter and we talked work for about 5mins and spent the next hour or so trying to debate and sort out the rights and wrongs of antrim hurling!( lol suffice to say nothing was sorted)but thats all people in areas like that care of, the club.

The county comes a poor second and you find that the majority of antrim gaels dont really worry about the fact were in Div 4 in football and 2a for hurling.

The gap is becoming bigger in some counties between club and county - more so in favour of the county (Depending on the code). It prob why hurling in Ulster is so poor out side of antrim, down and derry. Those counties are top heavy in favour of county football first and foremost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 04, 2016, 11:11:10 AM
All valid points, apparently if you do the maths Dublin gets 18 times more in funding than antrim
But how much more revenue do they pull in compared to Antrim
I think you can't be to judgemental to we study the intire  balance sheet

Over 30,000 at their first home league  match WOW

sure they don't need it as much as they have the population and resources to generate private funding way beyond any other county

Is Bernie eccelstone in charge down there

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 12:29:43 PM
Very quiet on here day before an AISF or has everyone decided to go to the conference instead  ;)

Good Luck to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2016, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 12:29:43 PM
Very quiet on here day before an AISF or has everyone decided to go to the conference instead  ;)

Good Luck to all involved.

Up Cushendall!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 05, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
Good luck to the dall if they hurl for 60 minutes this time they will make it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 01:55:53 PM
230 signed up for the conference so its not all doom and gloom.  I have attended a few ulster conferences and always found them to be very good.  I find it laughable to see people on here spouting about it being in cookstown, its has been there a few times and its in mid ulster for an ulster event.  There is no doubt that the clash with the Cushendall game is not ideal but its better to see them running the event this year as all hurling than just lob abit it in alongside a football orientated one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 02:14:57 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 01:55:53 PM
230 signed up for the conference so its not all doom and gloom.  I have attended a few ulster conferences and always found them to be very good.  I find it laughable to see people on here spouting about it being in cookstown, its has been there a few times and its in mid ulster for an ulster event.  There is no doubt that the clash with the Cushendall game is not ideal but its better to see them running the event this year as all hurling than just lob abit it in alongside a football orientated one.

Thanks for that, but from a hurling perspective it is laughable (if it wasnt actually insulting) both the timing and the location of the conference.

Like or not the hurling heartland in Ulster in with in Antrim and more specifically within NA, that is where the hurling environment is. So IMO you Mohammed to the mountain not the other way around.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 02:27:37 PM
i will agree to disagree, if they want to develop Hurling in the province i cant see how holding a conference where it is held almost every year being an issue. A parochial attitude like that about North Antrim is why there will never be much development across the province IMO. Strong hurling needs to be based on strong hurling clubs and schools across Ulster not just a in NA, Belfast and South Derry. Im a football man admittedly but i want to see development of all games and i think people are quick to gripe yet not so quick to change it themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 02:27:37 PM
i will agree to disagree, if they want to develop Hurling in the province i cant see how holding a conference where it is held every almost every year being an issue. A parochial attitude like that about North Antrim is why there will never be much development across the province IMO. Strong hurling needs to be based on strong hurling clubs and schools across Ulster not just a in NA, Belfast and South Derry. Im a football man admittedly but i want to see development of all games and i think peole are quick to gripe yet not so quick to change it themselves.

There will never be this until we have a provincial body who are actually interested in promoting the game and not just paying it lip service.

Until then, the driving force of hurling development is within Antrim and North Antrim taking the lead at the moment. Call it parochial or whatever you like but when the driving force is coming from a certain area despite the lack of investment and interest from those in paid roles then I am more inclined to look to this driving force for direction and leadership than a provincial board ticking a box putting a conference on for window dressing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
i don't dispute the work going on in North Antrim at all, it is excellent but i just do not see a problem with this conference apart from the clash of date.  The appetite for hurling isn't enough in the other areas of the province and i am sure some football clubs would hate the though a hurling team starting but you have to start somewhere.  The people from the lesser counties who do care for hurling will gain something from this i think, and i would guess that this conference is pointed at them rather than people who are undoubtedly a long way ahead in Antrim.

If i were organising Saturday at the minute id have the Cushendall on big screen in the main room in the Glenavon and show people what a hurling hotbed can breed.

I can agree with you on some points, its not exactly a bed of roses when it comes to investment and backing being a football man in SW antrim either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 05, 2016, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
i don't dispute the work going on in North Antrim at all, it is excellent but i just do not see a problem with this conference apart from the clash of date.  The appetite for hurling isn't enough in the other areas of the province and i am sure some football clubs would hate the though a hurling team starting but you have to start somewhere.  The people from the lesser counties who do care for hurling will gain something from this i think, and i would guess that this conference is pointed at them rather than people who are undoubtedly a long way ahead in Antrim.

If i were organising Saturday at the minute id have the Cushendall on big screen in the main room in the Glenavon and show people what a hurling hotbed can breed.

I can agree with you on some points, its not exactly a bed of roses when it comes to investment and backing being a football man in SW antrim either.

Why's it not held in Belfast, a hour or so's drive for most who'd be interested in attending.

Cookstown is over a two hours drive from our place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 05, 2016, 03:44:28 PM
Belfast would have been the place for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dreen on February 05, 2016, 03:57:50 PM
They had it in templepatrick 2 years ago so I don't know what deals they do but cookstown is in Mid Ulster so I'd say they prefer it taking in those who travel from the west. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2016, 06:49:36 PM
Good luck to the Ruairi ogs for tomorrow. I could use an excuse to get to Dublin on St Patrick'S day.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Well on February 05, 2016, 10:44:43 PM
Good Luck Ruairi Ogs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 05, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
Good luck Ruairi Ogs. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 05, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 05, 2016, 06:49:36 PM
Good luck to the Ruairi ogs for tomorrow. I could use an excuse to get to Dublin on St Patrick'S day.  ;)
Can't stretch to the first part of your post but a few pints on St Patrick's Day would be nice!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on February 06, 2016, 12:44:58 AM
Good luck to the ruaris and Coleraine this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on February 06, 2016, 01:38:41 AM
Think a Cushendall v Na P final .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 06, 2016, 06:43:02 AM
Come on the Dal ........hope they do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 06, 2016, 02:39:45 PM
So far so good. Couple of big names on that Dal team regularly under perform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 06, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
Cushendall doing well, should be further ahead at half time though. Some easy scoring opportunities hit wide. I hope they can pull through in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 06, 2016, 02:54:26 PM
Brilliant catch and goal by Sean McAfee. Drive on now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 06, 2016, 02:56:01 PM
Sean McAfee has been outstanding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 03:03:07 PM
Sarsfields are dung.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
They do look poor. Conditions terrible. Ryan mccambridge is a fantastic defender.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 06, 2016, 03:17:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 06, 2016, 02:39:45 PM
So far so good. Couple of big names on that Dal team regularly under perform.

Poorest Galway team I've ever seen. Dall had them on the back foot from the restart. Says pen saved. 5 to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
They do look poor. Conditions terrible. Ryan mccambridge is a fantastic defender.
Dall trained hard. Some of the Galway lads still look like they've mince pies still on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 06, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
Ryan McCambridge arguably the best player in our County???? Anyone???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 06, 2016, 03:26:28 PM
Outstanding Cushendall. One more to go. Well done😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
Happy days. Delighted for cushendall . After all the semi final defeats must feel good.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
Happy days. Delighted for cushendall . After all the semi final defeats must feel good.
:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: armaghniac on February 06, 2016, 03:37:55 PM
Well done, Cushendall. Let's hope there is also an Ulster football team there on Paddy's Day and two cups coming North.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: general_lee on February 06, 2016, 03:41:35 PM
Some performance enjoyed the game. Played with great passion. Sarsfields didn't look up to much especially at the back, though you can only bate what's in front of you. Nothing won yet though. Good confidence booster all the same. Never let up,  only real slip was the goal from the 65.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
They do look poor. Conditions terrible. Ryan mccambridge is a fantastic defender.
Dall trained hard. Some of the Galway lads still look like they've mince pies still on them.

I thought they looked like a very light team. Southern teams usually are more physical.

Be a tough final but anything can happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 06, 2016, 04:43:29 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall. Well deserved victory. Big McCambridge ran the show in defence and was well deserved man of the match. McAfee up front looked a threat every time he got the ball to hand. As has been said sarsfields were poor. Maybe they fell into "ah sure it's only the ulster champions " quagmire and didn't give the dall the attention in the build up they deserved. They wouldn't be the first team to do so.

Now to convince the other half that a trip to Dublin on paddys day is a great idea.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2016, 06:01:12 PM
Few points, Cushendall missed a hatful of easy scores, conditions and nerves obviously played a part on that, still some wrong shot/pass selections regardless of the conditions, so plenty for Cushendall to improve on so that's a bug bonus going into the final!!

Were Sarsfields that poor or did Cushendall not allow them any room? Will work well for them as the second game was played in better weather and pitch so it was always going to look a better game, NP nearly blew their chance and bar the county boys (who are great hurlers, but went missing for good bits) the rest of team are just club standard hurlers...

Cushendall will go in again as under dogs but with NP beaten by Loughgiel one year they wont be taking the Dall easily..

Be a good night the Luirg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 06, 2016, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
They do look poor. Conditions terrible. Ryan mccambridge is a fantastic defender.
Dall trained hard. Some of the Galway lads still look like they've mince pies still on them.

I thought they looked like a very light team. Southern teams usually are more physical.

Be a tough final but anything can happen.
Heard a  galway fella in front of me saying " they're a typical Northern team, not great hurlers just very physical" What a balloon!  Ruairi's abu!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on February 06, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
Cushendall were the better team throughout and thoroughly deserved the win. Na Piarsaigh were decent in the second match but far from unbeatable. The big lad breen at centre forward is very good and will take some watching. All to play for on Paddys day but if the Dall can play with the control they showed today they will do well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Has graffin always worn that much of a strapping on the knee or did he hurt it again?

Lm usual patronising shite you hear at those games. Our teams are not near physical enough at times so how someone reckons northern teams are too physical I don't know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 06, 2016, 07:33:56 PM
Only one team in it, the Dall were far superior in all facets of the game, well done.

For once they 're playing as a team and reaping the rewards.

Hope they give St Patricks day a good rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 06, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Has graffin always worn that much of a strapping on the knee or did he hurt it again?

Lm usual patronising shite you hear at those games. Our teams are not near physical enough at times so how someone reckons northern teams are too physical I don't know.
If I had dilocated my knee I'd be inclined to wear a good support as much for mental comfort as anything else. Conditions today were similar to the Laois match as well. He's a fella that likes to be prepared i believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 06, 2016, 08:10:27 PM
just back from match well done to the Dall, good luck on the 17th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on February 06, 2016, 08:17:34 PM
Campbell must have run McCambridge close for man of the match, both were outstanding for Cushendall. Not sure who no.12 was but he was on fire particulary first 10-15 mins of second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 06, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
Great match, the dall showed strength in depth and leaders all over the park beyond the usual which is always a good sign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2016, 09:16:41 PM
McManus unlikely to get away with those misses in the final but the Dall back line like a wall today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 07, 2016, 03:29:37 AM
Great to finally get over that line, sarsfields where poor today but nobody in Cushendall cares about that, we had great performances over the field today and we where deserved easy winners. Next dAy will be a different story but will tackle that hurdle when it comes.

Up the Ruairi's!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
First of.  Well done, and to answer that question.   Yes.   They were that bad.  Cdall weren't amazing.   that's the facts of the matter.  A shocking bad team.   Never ever in doubt. Never once looked like being beat.   And hand on heart am struggling to remember any team ever getting it as easy to an all Ireland.  Just hope that doesn't screw them in the end.    For me  mc cambridge and Campbell were out standing.   Mc Afee and mc gill done all the work up top when Neill went missing.  And that was fairly often.  1-07 and all the headlines.   But poor in my book.  These are all opinions.   Like it or not.    Paddys day will require the big names to stand up.  And for me.  None of them done it today.   That for Cdall is a great thing.   All infont of them.  Good luck to them.     
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 07:51:07 AM
Fair play to Cushendall!
Not right to single out but mccambridge was fantastic!
Wasn't fully aware of his ability until now!
Yes sarsfields seemed poor but we cannot take one moment from that Cushendall side who did their job.
Onward to March 17 and let's hope for another all Ireland back to Antrim.
Watching the other semi seems a lot more interesting now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
First of.  Well done, and to answer that question.   Yes.   They were that bad.  Cdall weren't amazing.   that's the facts of the matter.  A shocking bad team.   Never ever in doubt. Never once looked like being beat.   And hand on heart am struggling to remember any team ever getting it as easy to an all Ireland.  Just hope that doesn't screw them in the end.    For me  mc cambridge and Campbell were out standing.   Mc Afee and mc gill done all the work up top when Neill went missing.  And that was fairly often.  1-07 and all the headlines.   But poor in my book.  These are all opinions.   Like it or not.    Paddys day will require the big names to stand up.  And for me.  None of them done it today.   That for Cdall is a great thing.   All infont of them.  Good luck to them.     

Possibly as bad as the team you'd got in final??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 07, 2016, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 06, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Has graffin always worn that much of a strapping on the knee or did he hurt it again?

Lm usual patronising shite you hear at those games. Our teams are not near physical enough at times so how someone reckons northern teams are too physical I don't know.
He hurt it again.

The work he has put in to get himself ready has unbelievable. He's an absolute superstar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
I thought that based on his interview and I didn't think he had that much strapping on it in previous games. Still had a good game no matter.

Hopefully be good for the final. Some handy forwards in that no team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
First of.  Well done, and to answer that question.   Yes.   They were that bad.  Cdall weren't amazing.   that's the facts of the matter.  A shocking bad team.   Never ever in doubt. Never once looked like being beat.   And hand on heart am struggling to remember any team ever getting it as easy to an all Ireland.  Just hope that doesn't screw them in the end.    For me  mc cambridge and Campbell were out standing.   Mc Afee and mc gill done all the work up top when Neill went missing.  And that was fairly often.  1-07 and all the headlines.   But poor in my book.  These are all opinions.   Like it or not.    Paddys day will require the big names to stand up.  And for me.  None of them done it today.   That for Cdall is a great thing.   All infont of them.  Good luck to them.     

Possibly as bad as the team you'd got in final??
for me worse.  Least the team we played had beat decent teams on route to the final.  f**k there striking was poor.  There passing was poor. Didn't look to have any sort of game plan.  And looked to me like they were either just happy having got there or took the ulster boys for granted.  Again. Fair play to Cdall.  Can only beat what's in front of you. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 07, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
First of.  Well done, and to answer that question.   Yes.   They were that bad.  Cdall weren't amazing.   that's the facts of the matter.  A shocking bad team.   Never ever in doubt. Never once looked like being beat.   And hand on heart am struggling to remember any team ever getting it as easy to an all Ireland.  Just hope that doesn't screw them in the end.    For me  mc cambridge and Campbell were out standing.   Mc Afee and mc gill done all the work up top when Neill went missing.  And that was fairly often.  1-07 and all the headlines.   But poor in my book.  These are all opinions.   Like it or not.    Paddys day will require the big names to stand up.  And for me.  None of them done it today.   That for Cdall is a great thing.   All infont of them.  Good luck to them.     

Possibly as bad as the team you'd got in final??
for me worse.  Least the team we played had beat decent teams on route to the final.  f**k there striking was poor.  There passing was poor. Didn't look to have any sort of game plan.  And looked to me like they were either just happy having got there or took the ulster boys for granted.  Again. Fair play to Cdall.  Can only beat what's in front of you.
I'd agree with that. Are these the anomalies that occur when your county team is getting to the AI final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:56:17 AM
First of.  Well done, and to answer that question.   Yes.   They were that bad.  Cdall weren't amazing.   that's the facts of the matter.  A shocking bad team.   Never ever in doubt. Never once looked like being beat.   And hand on heart am struggling to remember any team ever getting it as easy to an all Ireland.  Just hope that doesn't screw them in the end.    For me  mc cambridge and Campbell were out standing.   Mc Afee and mc gill done all the work up top when Neill went missing.  And that was fairly often.  1-07 and all the headlines.   But poor in my book.  These are all opinions.   Like it or not.    Paddys day will require the big names to stand up.  And for me.  None of them done it today.   That for Cdall is a great thing.   All infont of them.  Good luck to them.     

Possibly as bad as the team you'd got in final??

my thoughts exactly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:24:47 PM
Why make it about the loughgiel Cdall shite again.  Jesus such a bunch of f**king clowns.   It was an opinion.  The Galway team were dung IMO.  And you can only beat what's in front of you agreed!   But some of use boys need to catch a grip FFS.  Let's see how they get on against that poor Munster team we beat in our semi.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:24:47 PM
Why make it about the loughgiel Cdall shite again.  Jesus such a bunch of f**king clowns.   It was an opinion.  The Galway team were dung IMO.  And you can only beat what's in front of you agreed!   But some of use boys need to catch a grip FFS.  Let's see how they get on against that poor Munster team we beat in our semi.

Jeasus, calm down lad, nobody was making fall Loughgiel comparisons, merely pointing out the similarities when meeting shitty teams in the all Ireland clubs...

We certainly benefited from that when we won  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 03:24:47 PM
Why make it about the loughgiel Cdall shite again.  Jesus such a bunch of f**king clowns.   It was an opinion.  The Galway team were dung IMO.  And you can only beat what's in front of you agreed!   But some of use boys need to catch a grip FFS.  Let's see how they get on against that poor Munster team we beat in our semi.

Jeasus, calm down lad, nobody was making fall Loughgiel comparisons, merely pointing out the similarities when meeting shitty teams in the all Ireland clubs...

We certainly benefited from that when we won  ;D

i think you hit a nerve

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 07, 2016, 06:11:49 PM
Not at all.  If other clubs can't move on from the Cdall loughgiel shite. How do you expect the clubs themselves to do so?  I was just saying Galway lads were poor,  and it has to come back to loughgiel.   I'll refrain from commenting on it again. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 08:55:08 PM
Hearing about a certain club (not mine) that's actively going round certain clubs that are struggling to field underage teams, that their better kids should hurl for them?? btdgtgtt, hardstation you hear about this??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2016, 09:25:04 PM
Has this not been going on round Belfast for years
Or am I misinformed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: 7towers shamrock on February 07, 2016, 10:21:58 PM
Had to work out just how good c/dall were or how bad sarsfield were,a bit of both i suspect but as already said you
can only beat whats in front of you.As for np their very beatable but are a big strong physical side and have been around a good few years and are very experienced  and i would think  won't roll over as easy as sarfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Let's just not go there with the whole "it's a Belfast thing" argument. When it comes to sanctions I remember Cushendall teams with cushendun players wearing their own socks & shorts!
From St Patrick's to moy carraig Og excuse the spelling!
Not sure the exact case MR2 but I know the mckenna's to St. John's was very well prepared in advance and rossa seem to get players sanctioned from st Theresa's and a certain celebrity son from st brigids. I'm actually a real supporter of the sanction rules - I think it should be permitted right up to senior. We are miles behind southern counties in this where sanctions are routine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Let's just not go there with the whole "it's a Belfast thing" argument. When it comes to sanctions I remember Cushendall teams with cushendun players wearing their own socks & shorts!
From St Patrick's to moy carraig Og excuse the spelling!
Not sure the exact case MR2 but I know the mckenna's to St. John's was very well prepared in advance and rossa seem to get players sanctioned from st Theresa's and a certain celebrity son from st brigids. I'm actually a real supporter of the sanction rules - I think it should be permitted right up to senior. We are miles behind southern counties in this where sanctions are routine.

Well I am... The thing is yes players should be playing regardless but with numbers dropping and if main players are enticed to go elsewhere to seek glory at juvenile level then clubs will fold as the other kids will say, WTF why bother as Sean is off to play with that other team!! And he's our main player

Look we need to stop the win at all costs mentality..... Some lads out there have more clubs than Tiger woods!!

On another note watch the under 16 development squad today at Uuj.... Good to see lads on a bitter day put the effort in at 10 am!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Let's just not go there with the whole "it's a Belfast thing" argument. When it comes to sanctions I remember Cushendall teams with cushendun players wearing their own socks & shorts!
From St Patrick's to moy carraig Og excuse the spelling!
Not sure the exact case MR2 but I know the mckenna's to St. John's was very well prepared in advance and rossa seem to get players sanctioned from st Theresa's and a certain celebrity son from st brigids. I'm actually a real supporter of the sanction rules - I think it should be permitted right up to senior. We are miles behind southern counties in this where sanctions are routine.

Well I am... The thing is yes players should be playing regardless but with numbers dropping and if main players are enticed to go elsewhere to seek glory at juvenile level then clubs will fold as the other kids will say, WTF why bother as Sean is off to play with that other team!! And he's our main player

Look we need to stop the win at all costs mentality..... Some lads out there have more clubs than Tiger woods!!

On another note watch the under 16 development squad today at Uuj.... Good to see lads on a bitter day put the effort in at 10 am!!

Can you explain this a bit better MR2?
A player can only play under sanction if his parent club doesn't offer that code?
I'm not understanding how anyone can be enticed etc?
He's either sanctioned or lost to the sport - it's not a glory seeking thing at all is it?
Although in understand that win at all cost mentality and its crippling effect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 08, 2016, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 08:55:08 PM
Hearing about a certain club (not mine) that's actively going round certain clubs that are struggling to field underage teams, that their better kids should hurl for them?? btdgtgtt, hardstation you hear about this??

There's no need for a sanction rule U12 down as they're go games and you don't need 15 to field, well that's the case in Down, and I presume South Antrim is the same.

I'm presuming these sanctions are for U14 up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 08, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
went to the game on sat and predicited a dall win. I just felt that from watching them this season they just dont know when they are beaten.

Had the misfortune to sit with a few mouthy sarsfields fans who constantly moaned at every obvious foul coming out with crap like 'the refs justs feeling sorry for them nordie bast**ds, or croke park must be wanting to promote the game up there by sending a biased ref'. Made me laugh all the same.

Cdall played really well throughout the game and defended in packs. McCambridge was brilliant at corner back, he cleaned the corner forward out every single time. Campbell was also good at no6.

Were sarsfield poor? yes they were IMO but that doesnt detract from Cdalls win, the dal were simply better than them.

Cdall did shoot shocking wides, but so did Sarsfield at the end of the first half. Both teams were guilty of some poor use of the ball at times.

What was odd was how early in the game Sarsfields started to go for goal! If they had of stayed calm and took their points then the game could of been far more different.

I wish them all the best for the final and would like to see them win it. The Limerick men will take some beating as they look a quality side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 08, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Let's just not go there with the whole "it's a Belfast thing" argument. When it comes to sanctions I remember Cushendall teams with cushendun players wearing their own socks & shorts!
From St Patrick's to moy carraig Og excuse the spelling!
Not sure the exact case MR2 but I know the mckenna's to St. John's was very well prepared in advance and rossa seem to get players sanctioned from st Theresa's and a certain celebrity son from st brigids. I'm actually a real supporter of the sanction rules - I think it should be permitted right up to senior. We are miles behind southern counties in this where sanctions are routine.

Well I am... The thing is yes players should be playing regardless but with numbers dropping and if main players are enticed to go elsewhere to seek glory at juvenile level then clubs will fold as the other kids will say, WTF why bother as Sean is off to play with that other team!! And he's our main player

Look we need to stop the win at all costs mentality..... Some lads out there have more clubs than Tiger woods!!

On another note watch the under 16 development squad today at Uuj.... Good to see lads on a bitter day put the effort in at 10 am!!

Can you explain this a bit better MR2?
A player can only play under sanction if his parent club doesn't offer that code?
I'm not understanding how anyone can be enticed etc?
He's either sanctioned or lost to the sport - it's not a glory seeking thing at all is it?
Although in understand that win at all cost mentality and its crippling effect.

Yeah we have lads from Ballymena and Rasharkin playing hurling for our underage teams and football for their parent clubs. Their parent clubs dont offer hurling at that grade they are in due to lack of numbers so they come to us for hurling only.

They play for Dunloy on a monday evening in the hurling say and then against them on the thurs in the football!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2016, 09:53:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 08, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Let's just not go there with the whole "it's a Belfast thing" argument. When it comes to sanctions I remember Cushendall teams with cushendun players wearing their own socks & shorts!
From St Patrick's to moy carraig Og excuse the spelling!
Not sure the exact case MR2 but I know the mckenna's to St. John's was very well prepared in advance and rossa seem to get players sanctioned from st Theresa's and a certain celebrity son from st brigids. I'm actually a real supporter of the sanction rules - I think it should be permitted right up to senior. We are miles behind southern counties in this where sanctions are routine.

Well I am... The thing is yes players should be playing regardless but with numbers dropping and if main players are enticed to go elsewhere to seek glory at juvenile level then clubs will fold as the other kids will say, WTF why bother as Sean is off to play with that other team!! And he's our main player

Look we need to stop the win at all costs mentality..... Some lads out there have more clubs than Tiger woods!!

On another note watch the under 16 development squad today at Uuj.... Good to see lads on a bitter day put the effort in at 10 am!!

Can you explain this a bit better MR2?
A player can only play under sanction if his parent club doesn't offer that code?
I'm not understanding how anyone can be enticed etc?
He's either sanctioned or lost to the sport - it's not a glory seeking thing at all is it?
Although in understand that win at all cost mentality and its crippling effect.

Yeah we have lads from Ballymena and Rasharkin playing hurling for our underage teams and football for their parent clubs. Their parent clubs dont offer hurling at that grade they are in due to lack of numbers so they come to us for hurling only.

They play for Dunloy on a monday evening in the hurling say and then against them on the thurs in the football!

Yeah I think the fact we are getting young lads playing a game that they would not normally get playing can only be good.
It is not their fault that their club cant field a team at that particular age group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 10:45:38 AM
As DR says we have some lads at underage playing from Ballymena and rasharkin
But its club policy only to take players that can't get any hurling with there own club, Mr2 would need to clarify if this is the case in this instance
DR sounds like you where sitting with a lot of sore losers
The sarsfield lads I was sitting with couldn't have been better
Real nice people
Sure if you where looking for someone lippy you don't have to drive to Navan 😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 08, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
prob the reak of drink from them didnt help matters for them! lol

To be fair a few of them near us were good craic and when they found out where we were from i got the line i was dreading 'do you mind in that game we beat yee Cooney putting the line ball over from near the halfway line!' yes, i had tried to forget that moment! haha

On the transfer matter i think its a good thing if lads cant get hurling/football at their own club then they can go to another and get the game they want to play. It can only be good for them. The lads we have taken have been brilliant and credit to their own clubs and families.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
I heard it from a parent who's kid was approached to play for a 'better club' so I'm going with the story I was told by that parent... I could make it up but that would be silly

I have also said in my post that the kids shouldn't do without and not just the good kids, as some lads develop in hurling later in life and its those kids I'm worried about who may be lost to hurling as they don't want to get hammered as their best players are now playing elsewhere.....

Coaches from other clubs should not be doing this... Nothing wrong with what I posted. No need to name clubs or the coach either, that would be silly

BTW, goes for my own club too, if I heard a coach did it I would say same thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2016, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2016, 01:49:13 PM
Milltown, if the player's club provides hurling at his age group, the player cannot go and play for another club. I think your story may be confused slightly. It may be the case that the player's club will not be able to participate in hurling this year due to lack of numbers and a coach from another team has approached and asked would he consider a sanction to his club if that is the case. That is not the same as poaching players from other clubs.

It's not confusing, I know the rules you are stating, I've managed juvenile teams for years so I'm aware of sanctions.... this club has a team and the coach has approached this lad to get him to play for a better club....

Some parents fall for this glory seeking (generally they haven't been part of a club) and don't have the affiliation that most clubmen do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 04:35:40 PM
SIE any truth in the rumours Johnny Coen has moved to Antrim from Galway and transfered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 08, 2016, 04:53:47 PM
Sometimes its just the parents to blame. And as has been mentioned, usually parents from a non GAA background. We had a lad here in Derry who was amongst best U14s in county. His family background was all soccer. Therefore he transferred from a small club to big club for more success-ended up travelling an extra 15 miles. To be clear he wasn't approached by other club, nor did the lad indicate he wanted to leave. The parents wanted success, you usually find the most successful parents to deal with are those who played sport themselves and the worst are those who played very little and pass their ambitions onto their tortured offspring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2016, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 08, 2016, 01:49:13 PM
Milltown, if the player's club provides hurling at his age group, the player cannot go and play for another club. I think your story may be confused slightly. It may be the case that the player's club will not be able to participate in hurling this year due to lack of numbers and a coach from another team has approached and asked would he consider a sanction to his club if that is the case. That is not the same as poaching players from other clubs.

It's not confusing, I know the rules you are stating, I've managed juvenile teams for years so I'm aware of sanctions.... this club has a team and the coach has approached this lad to get him to play for a better club....

Some parents fall for this glory seeking (generally they haven't been part of a club) and don't have the affiliation that most clubmen do

Ok so this is a transfer as opposed to a sanction?

If it's purely for "glory-hunting" then that's wrong. Simple as.

If there's another reason I haven't heard of any such case unless you can shed some light.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 08, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
Antrim Senior Panel for National Hurling League

8TH FEBRUARY 2016

Share:
Loughgiel
Chrissy O'Connell
Liam Watson
Eddie McCloskey
Tony McCloskey
Dan McCloskey
Odhran McFadden

Ballycastle
Neal McAuley Capt
Stephen McAfee
Fergus Donnelly
Saul McCaughan
Ciaran Clarke

Dunloy
Gabby McTaggart
Conor McKinley

Carey
James Black

Clooney Gaels
Bernard Graham

St Johns
Simon McCrory
Barry McFall
Ciaran Johnson
Michael Bradley
Conor Johnson
Michael Dudley

Sarsfields
Kevin McKiernan
Daniel McKiernan
Niall McKenna

Rossa
Chris McGuinness
Stephen Beattie
Gerard Walsh
Conor McClelland
James Connolly

St Galls
Jackson McGreevy

Lamh Dhearg
Donal Nugent

Gort na Mona
Conor McCann

Glenarm
Darren Hamill

Cushendall lads will join the panel on 31.03.16
Ryan McCambridge
Eoghan Campbell
Conor Carson
Paddy Burke
Plus one other.

At that point five of the current panel will make way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 04:35:40 PM
SIE any truth in the rumours Johnny Coen has moved to Antrim from Galway and transfered
it's his brother.  And he couldn't hurl spuds to ducks.  So don't panic. Lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2016, 07:38:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 04:35:40 PM
SIE any truth in the rumours Johnny Coen has moved to Antrim from Galway and transfered
Enda Coen as far as I know. He was there towards the end of last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 08, 2016, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 04:35:40 PM
SIE any truth in the rumours Johnny Coen has moved to Antrim from Galway and transfered
it's his brother.  And he couldn't hurl spuds to ducks.  So don't panic. Lol.
From what I've been told he's decent enough.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 08, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2016, 04:35:40 PM
SIE any truth in the rumours Johnny Coen has moved to Antrim from Galway and transfered
it's his brother.  And he couldn't hurl spuds to ducks.  So don't panic. Lol.

That's different I didn't know he had a brother so that's not a good sign 😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on February 08, 2016, 10:27:03 PM
Any word on when league fixtures are being released ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 09, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.

McManus, McAfee, McGill I would take any 1 of them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 09, 2016, 08:40:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 09, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.

McManus, McAfee, McGill I would take any 1 of them!

Indeed. Can we not take all three? Great atmosphere about all things Antrim atm. County Football, County Hurling, new board, Cushendall, Creggan all flying. Great to see and long may it continue!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 09, 2016, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 09, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.

McManus, McAfee, McGill I would take any 1 of them!

Would take any of them as well. really impressed with McAfee on sat, thought he played really well the whole game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 09, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2016, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 09, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.

McManus, McAfee, McGill I would take any 1 of them!

Would take any of them as well. really impressed with McAfee on sat, thought he played really well the whole game.

No Creggan men on county panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2016, 09:56:46 AM
Which one is Paddy Burke? Martin Burke is the full back but where does Paddy play? Was he playing Saturday?

It will be harsh on who loses out to the dall guys but that's the way it goes I guess. Derry this weekend is a must win game - well I guess they all are if we want promotion!

I think the panel looks strong though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 09, 2016, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 09, 2016, 09:56:46 AM
Which one is Paddy Burke? Martin Burke is the full back but where does Paddy play? Was he playing Saturday?

It will be harsh on who loses out to the dall guys but that's the way it goes I guess. Derry this weekend is a must win game - well I guess they all are if we want promotion!

I think the panel looks strong though.
Paddy has been injured since start of championship last year. He normally plays Centre Half. Only on the way back now.

I'd be surprised of McAfee went to the county...just don't think he would interested in playing county hurling...but that's just a guess on my part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2016, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on February 09, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 09, 2016, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 09, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 08, 2016, 09:22:30 PM
So, who is the plus one other from Cushendall, that is to be added to the Antrim panel on 31st March? Why the secrecy? I hope it is Neil McManus.

McManus, McAfee, McGill I would take any 1 of them!

Would take any of them as well. really impressed with McAfee on sat, thought he played really well the whole game.

No Creggan men on county panel?
I'd have thought when it all settles down there'll be a couple of creggan men on the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on February 09, 2016, 11:05:28 PM
Agree fully with MR on the sanctions. I am both a coach & parent and I have been approached to move my son to the "better club". It is absolutely the subtle thing of approaching the stronger player(s) and entice with medals and the other players will absolutely think WTF and very soon a club that was just about able to field a team folds.  That's the reality of it lads and the "big" clubs know that.  Unfortunately they are blinded by their own short sighted view and cannot see that in the long run lack of local completion will only stifle their own long term growth.       
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 03:34:57 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

I was on about the emphatic win, by such a huge scoring margin. Yip, I was watching you boys in 2012 I was very proud of you. Any team with such a serious scoring machine in the forward line like Liam Watson will always have a great chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2016, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2016, 11:27:40 PM
Would you rather that struggling clubs amalgamated and the sanctions shelved?

No, but let a son go to a club or a father make inquires without these glory chasing mentors/coaches .... for a mentor to say the words, come and play for a better club, or you'll win things with us, is a bit off, its smacks of desperation to win things. But that's the problem with bigger clubs in Belfast, I've seen it in my club in the past from certain, I'm not even going to say coaches but clubmen, who feel that this sort of thing is alright!!! Grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2016, 09:54:53 AM
Sorry if I'm missing something on the transfer / sanction / amalgamation debate but I see it very simply - here goes:

Amalgamation - more than one club with few numbers come together under one "holding / temporary" club to secure games for all of them. Systems based on whole clubs in same situation or geographically close clubs coming to agreements.

Sanction - a lesser number of players arrangement rather than whole clubs. If a players faces the prospect of no games due to his club not fielding in that code/age group, then he can play for another club with the agreement of all parties.

Generally sanction apply to smaller numbers of people than amalgamations.
Both these systems are to be encouraged, because the alternative is young fellas missing out on games - and ultimately being lost to our sport.

Personally I prefer sanctions.
The amalgamations have been at times troublesome (particularly in Belfast) in terms of cohesions and a sense of identity - this has manifested itself to discipline problems on the pitch.
In the sanction route, the players have a greater sense of one unified approach and belonging - so less issues arise. The player has agreed the sanction - whereas amalgamation may be the only option.

I've said before I think sanctions should be permissible right up to senior (as they are down below) so that nobody is lost to our games - or for that matter pushed towards a transfer!

Finally then transfers.
Some have good reasons and are permissible (moving house, irreconcilable differences, bullying at underage etc - whatever - we all know).
Glory hunting is of course not one of those reasons. Transfers should not be permitted where this is the motivation, and nobody from the "stronger" club should encourage it.

So what I don't get his the confusion in this case?

If player X we are talking about, is in a club where they field at his code and age - then there is no question of a sanction or amalgamation. It's a non-issue.
If his parent club do not field a team - then it is entirely correct for his club to seek amalgamation - or for another club to sanction him. It should be encouraged rather than the young fella lost to the sport. When his own club fields a team again - he returns.

So which is it?
Why the confusion on this player X?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2016, 10:32:40 AM
If a kid has no club a club can approach them to come and join them.

if a kid has a club but only one code another club can approach them to offer them the code thats no available from his parent club.

If a kid has a club that offers both no other club should approach them to come and join them.

Its that simple. For a club to effectively 'poach' a good player to come to their club or speak to their parents about it is wrong. So wrong.

amalgamations have their merits esp in an area where some clubs struggle for numbers e.g Cushendun, Carey, Cloughmills etc but have a senior team of their own. The long term plan should be to attract non GAA familes to the club and their kids to join at an early age for the future but thats easier wrote down here than done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2016, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on February 10, 2016, 10:03:50 AM
I think milltown's point is that other clubs should not be approaching players who are available to sanction but that the player himself or his parents should just decide what they want to do without persuasion.
I don't see a big problem with it myself. Effectively it's like a club approaching a kid who has no club.

OK right so I understand the point now MR2!
Still disagree however.
If a player is available for sanction - he shouldn't at that young age be running around between club looking for a game (possibly with parents who have no interest in him let alone the GAA).
Much better to have someone offer his a game and make him feel wanted!

But if I read between the lines - I agree this shouldn't extend to poaching in terms of getting any such players to leave his parent club "glory-hunting".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 10, 2016, 01:01:55 PM
So after all the huge build up to the weekend....anyone at the conference?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2016, 04:50:41 PM
Agh now SG. Sure do you not know the easiest all ireland's ever won were in '83 and '12. I was told three times in the semi (by a Dunloy man  ::)  ) against np that " that's yous bate now"  lol.

I hope Cushendall win it. Maybe it'll take that for people to see just what it takes to win it. No matter what team is front of you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2016, 04:58:57 PM
NP are a very good team. That really was Loughgiel's "final".

I think Cushendall will really have to be on their game as NP have several top quality forwards who will be hard watched but it's a one off game so you never know. Downes and Dowling is it? are top drawer and there are a few other boys who are none too shabby either. It's a tough game but it's a final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2016, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!

I was at the Np loughgiel semi which went to extra time with Loughgiel holding on to the draw at fulltime.... Loughgiel came out and blew them away.... So whoever said NP was poor doesn't know a lot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!

:o jaysus lad did you fall out of the bed and down the stairs this morning. Theres me thinking you could take a bit of banter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!

:o jaysus lad did you fall out of the bed and down the stairs this morning. Theres me thinking you could take a bit of banter.
all is well and good.  It's the banter page.  But Jesus man.  Tell me that wasn't a poor Galway team. That's nothing to do with who we played or who you played. That's just the way it is.  There's no doubt in my mind no matter who won ulster this year.  They'd be sitting in the final.  Again.  Take nothing away from the Dall men.  The early goal steadied them and never looked in doubt.   I see them winning a tight game.  For me Na P backs are questionable.  There forwards are good.  But Dall backs are everyone to a man lethal!!!!   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 10, 2016, 05:36:11 PM
And he's off and running LOL
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 10, 2016, 05:43:34 PM
It should be a close contest. You'd have to have the dall slight favourites going on their performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 06:31:11 PM
Good job you don't work for paddy power SIE  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 11, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!

:o jaysus lad did you fall out of the bed and down the stairs this morning. Theres me thinking you could take a bit of banter.
all is well and good.  It's the banter page.  But Jesus man.  Tell me that wasn't a poor Galway team. That's nothing to do with who we played or who you played. That's just the way it is.  There's no doubt in my mind no matter who won ulster this year.  They'd be sitting in the final.  Again.  Take nothing away from the Dall men.  The early goal steadied them and never looked in doubt.   I see them winning a tight game.  For me Na P backs are questionable.  There forwards are good.  But Dall backs are everyone to a man lethal!!!!

;D i actually thought you would have seen that i was winding you up with that lol

You are right tho, that was a poor sarsfields team. I was stood with the sarsfields team and when the dall came out one of them said 'jaysus but your boys are a big team!'

I didnt realise the diff in size until they came out. Cdall were physically a bigger team and were stronger all over the pitch. They out played them all over the field.

In terms of Glaway teams ive seen over the years that was as bad as ive seen. Loughrea a few years back were as bad but then again Cdall actually played worse than them that day in Mullingar.

Fancied them to win the whole thing before the semi final and i stand by it after watching the other game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 11, 2016, 10:06:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 10, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 10, 2016, 02:19:09 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 10, 2016, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 09, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Who was Ruairi Og ?
I couldn't find it but i sent out a couple of texts hopefully have an answer soon.

What a result for Cushendall! I never seen an Antrim team do that since Dunloy beat Glenmore. Its important for Cushendall not to get complacent and start focusing and training for the final. Every move should be well measured, this could possibly be a once in a life time opportunity. They are probably just going to have to live like professionals from now to the final or at least the best they can. Dose anyone think it would be a good idea to play a few matches on an all weather surface because it would be more like Croke Park? They seemed well coached and I like the way they clog up the defense like Tyrone would do. It leaves more room for the full forward line as long as they stay deep. Funny how hurling is going its like a possession game from the puck outs.
mustn't have watched much hurling in 2012  :o ;D

Use never hammered anyone in 2012, sure use beat the best teams about  ;D

or are you saying some of them were 'poor' like Sarsfields were lol  8)
I had said I wasn't gonna bother talking about this.  As your either a complete clown. Or the fishing rod is out.   That Galway team is as poor a team I've seen at that stage in my time hurling,  that's not taking away from the Dall.  They needed beating. And we're beat out the gate!!!   Again I'll say fair f**king play to them.  Am not getting into this who we beat and who we didn't.  You can only beat who's in it.    Use didn't get much for the GREAT teams use beat. :o   Now they play that poor team we beat in the 2012 semi.  So let's see if they can be as lucky as us.      Lol. I remember on here leading up to the game.   They were a savage outfit and we'd need "a tank to stop breen". Afterwards. They were a bad team.   Can't win!!!!

:o jaysus lad did you fall out of the bed and down the stairs this morning. Theres me thinking you could take a bit of banter.
all is well and good.  It's the banter page.  But Jesus man.  Tell me that wasn't a poor Galway team. That's nothing to do with who we played or who you played. That's just the way it is.  There's no doubt in my mind no matter who won ulster this year.  They'd be sitting in the final.  Again.  Take nothing away from the Dall men.  The early goal steadied them and never looked in doubt.   I see them winning a tight game.  For me Na P backs are questionable.  There forwards are good.  But Dall backs are everyone to a man lethal!!!!

;D i actually thought you would have seen that i was winding you up with that lol

You are right tho, that was a poor sarsfields team. I was stood with the sarsfields team and when the dall came out one of them said 'jaysus but your boys are a big team!'

I didnt realise the diff in size until they came out. Cdall were physically a bigger team and were stronger all over the pitch. They out played them all over the field.

In terms of Glaway teams ive seen over the years that was as bad as ive seen. Loughrea a few years back were as bad but then again Cdall actually played worse than them that day in Mullingar.

Fancied them to win the whole thing before the semi final and i stand by it after watching the other game.


So. Can we all agree that Sarsfields and NP are/were both shite..............

and in fact the club teams in Antrim are generally far superior to what our Southern brethren produce...............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 11, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
i wouldnt say NP were shite, i would argue that Lgiel were at their best and their peak in 2012 and that NP were young and new to a run like that. Lgeil had battled through all them final defeats and were a hardened team at that point.

This time around i think that NP are a different entity to that from 2012. They are a much tougher team and more experienced. That being said Cdall are the same and full of quality players. They are a very well balanced team with good players on every line of the pitch.

Looking forward to the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
i wouldnt say NP were shite, i would argue that Lgiel were at their best and their peak in 2012 and that NP were young and new to a run like that. Lgeil had battled through all them final defeats and were a hardened team at that point.

This time around i think that NP are a different entity to that from 2012. They are a much tougher team and more experienced. That being said Cdall are the same and full of quality players. They are a very well balanced team with good players on every line of the pitch.

Looking forward to the final.
agreed.   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 11, 2016, 04:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
i wouldnt say NP were shite, i would argue that Lgiel were at their best and their peak in 2012 and that NP were young and new to a run like that. Lgeil had battled through all them final defeats and were a hardened team at that point.

This time around i think that NP are a different entity to that from 2012. They are a much tougher team and more experienced. That being said Cdall are the same and full of quality players. They are a very well balanced team with good players on every line of the pitch.

Looking forward to the final.
I actually think Loughgiel were maybe better v St Thomas than the previous year & were very unlucky not to win the first day. Loughgiel would have won the final handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
you think? i actually thought they were lucky to get the draw at the death with the last min free to level it. Though they did battle back well to get into that position.

The replay St Thomas's blew them away. Lgiel looked legweiry and tired in the reply
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
you think? i actually thought they were lucky to get the draw at the death with the last min free to level it. Though they did battle back well to get into that position.

The replay St Thomas's blew them away. Lgiel looked legweiry and tired in the reply
our wing back ran over the ball to let Thomas back into the game, lad went in and stuck it in net.   Cooney scored a point in injury time to put it to extra time.  Should have had it wrapped up.  We're lucky enough in extra time mind you.  So close.  Yet so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 11, 2016, 06:39:56 PM
Any word when the fixtures are being published?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on February 11, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
Fixtures should be with clubs for Monday weeks board meeting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 11, 2016, 07:49:46 PM
Any craic from over the mountain with the dall men? Any challenge matches lined up or how are they fairing with injuries ect? I think if they play smart they could win this. I'm sure they realize the semi final wasn't a true reflection of Galway hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 11, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
you think? i actually thought they were lucky to get the draw at the death with the last min free to level it. Though they did battle back well to get into that position.

The replay St Thomas's blew them away. Lgiel looked legweiry and tired in the reply
our wing back ran over the ball to let Thomas back into the game, lad went in and stuck it in net.   Cooney scored a point in injury time to put it to extra time.  Should have had it wrapped up.  We're lucky enough in extra time mind you.  So close.  Yet so far

I remember in the replay Benny missing a goal chance early on and thinking it wasn't going to be their day.  What time is game on Sunday?  Off Monday so going to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
Why was the semi final not a true reflection of Galway hurling? Did Portumna, Loughrey, Gort and the like not turn out this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
Why was the semi final not a true reflection of Galway hurling? Did Portumna, Loughrey, Gort and the like not turn out this year?

Could be many factors..... depends on the draw and two of the better teams meeting early, one getting knocked out, you left out St Thomas's also there who are still a you team with plenty to offer at this stage... Galway hurling like Kilkenny hurling one of the most unpredictable championships... never really one tea, that dominates more than two years ... Unlike Antrim Wexford Offaly and Dublin (though Ballyboden have won the football this year)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 12, 2016, 09:27:17 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 11, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on February 11, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
you think? i actually thought they were lucky to get the draw at the death with the last min free to level it. Though they did battle back well to get into that position.

The replay St Thomas's blew them away. Lgiel looked legweiry and tired in the reply
our wing back ran over the ball to let Thomas back into the game, lad went in and stuck it in net.   Cooney scored a point in injury time to put it to extra time.  Should have had it wrapped up.  We're lucky enough in extra time mind you.  So close.  Yet so far

I remember in the replay Benny missing a goal chance early on and thinking it wasn't going to be their day.  What time is game on Sunday?  Off Monday so going to go.

It's at 2 o'clock and has been moved to Celtic Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 12, 2016, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
Why was the semi final not a true reflection of Galway hurling? Did Portumna, Loughrey, Gort and the like not turn out this year?

As MR2 says the Galway championship is unpredictable. no team dominated for long periods like it seems to go in Antrim.

It also very physical and a tough championship to win. Ive been to a couple of finals over the years and they dont hold back against each other, a lot of serious hard hitting on and off the ball. The galway championship has been prone to a few dust ups on the pitch, some bads ones at that. Discipline has been the down fall of a few teams in the galway championship.

To be fair this years galway final was poor as well. Neither team looked good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2016, 10:26:03 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 12, 2016, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
Why was the semi final not a true reflection of Galway hurling? Did Portumna, Loughrey, Gort and the like not turn out this year?

As MR2 says the Galway championship is unpredictable. no team dominated for long periods like it seems to go in Antrim.

It also very physical and a tough championship to win. Ive been to a couple of finals over the years and they dont hold back against each other, a lot of serious hard hitting on and off the ball. The galway championship has been prone to a few dust ups on the pitch, some bads ones at that. Discipline has been the down fall of a few teams in the galway championship.

To be fair this years galway final was poor as well. Neither team looked good.

Was lucky enough to get down for the Minor final and Intermediate final one year.... Minor final was brilliant St Thomas's v Loughrea and it was St Thomas's that won out in the end (who developed to become a serious team)  the Intermediate final (of which I had a vested interest that year) was as you say DR off the ball stuff roughing up and was late enough in the year too to the pitch wasn't exactly great condition ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 12, 2016, 10:54:37 AM
theres def no love lost with each other in Galway, didnt Loughrea and Athenry have a serious fight on the pitch one year and then not that long ago Loughrea were accused of basically beating Portumna off the pitch without the ball! lol Also rem Gort being involved in a serious tussle as well.

Its a good championship all the same where no one team seems to get it all their own way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 12, 2016, 02:02:58 PM
Cj off the county hurling panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
So MR2 are you saying it was predictable that the Galway Championship was unpredictable? 6 of the last 10 All Ireland Club winners have come from Galway. Have they all forgot how to hold a hurl or did Sarsfields win it on merit this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 12, 2016, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
So MR2 are you saying it was predictable that the Galway Championship was unpredictable? 6 of the last 10 All Ireland Club winners have come from Galway. Have they all forgot how to hold a hurl or did Sarsfields win it on merit this year?
they won it by beating none of them teams that won all Ireland's JJ. Look.  Taking nothing away from your victory. Your bound to no they were poor.  That's not your fault. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2016, 09:03:36 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 12, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
So MR2 are you saying it was predictable that the Galway Championship was unpredictable? 6 of the last 10 All Ireland Club winners have come from Galway. Have they all forgot how to hold a hurl or did Sarsfields win it on merit this year?

Nope I highlighted all the good teams and it throws up teams that win Galway that manage to win and bomb during the club series... Namely Loughrea, crap team but there or thereabouts every year in Galway, feck knows why
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 13, 2016, 07:05:56 AM
SG they beat teams that beat previous All Ireland winners. They are the best Galway had to offer this year. I'd argue Galway's Championship produces the actual best team in the county far more often than others. They play a group system with the top teams going into the knockout stages. Surely that is far more likely to end with the best team winning than an open draw?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 13, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 13, 2016, 07:05:56 AM
SG they beat teams that beat previous All Ireland winners. They are the best Galway had to offer this year. I'd argue Galway's Championship produces the actual best team in the county far more often than others. They play a group system with the top teams going into the knockout stages. Surely that is far more likely to end with the best team winning than an open draw?
obviously not this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 13, 2016, 05:05:55 PM
JJ I have to agree with the rest. Sarsfields were poor, you can't argue with that.

I was the game supporting cdall and wantin use to win, cdall deserved to win. But sarsfields were not a good team. OTB or Np would of beat them as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
On a side note did anyone else find the location of the National League launch a strange choice?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 13, 2016, 09:36:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
On a side note did anyone else find the location of the National League launch a strange choice?

Cookstown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2016, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 13, 2016, 09:36:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2016, 09:22:16 PM
On a side note did anyone else find the location of the National League launch a strange choice?

Cookstown?

Harland and Wolf  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 14, 2016, 07:59:09 AM
H&W cranes or the titanic building - it's the standard Belfast photo shoot!
Having it there pushes the idea our sports don't need hidden away from anyone also.
I suppose GAA class that photo shoot as promoting hurling here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 14, 2016, 07:59:09 AM
H&W cranes or the titanic building - it's the standard Belfast photo shoot!
Having it there pushes the idea our sports don't need hidden away from anyone also.
I suppose GAA class that photo shoot as promoting hurling here!

Well to me it just seemed a strange location plus a quick look at the history of the place would have had bells ringing about the suitability of it. But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Getting beat 1-07 0-05 just on half time.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
They've been absolutely awful. Haven't strung 2 passes together.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
You at it?  Is there a breeze?  Be some start to the big mans Antrim career if they can't beat Derry.   I can see the que forming  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 02:43:03 PM
There is a breeze hopefully a 5 point one in our favour.  But we've been awful.  Eddie has been Antrim's only threat from play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2016, 03:05:14 PM
Good start to 2nd half. 1-03 without reply
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 03:06:18 PM
13 - 11 Antrim hurling better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 03:23:25 PM
Much better now 19-14....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 14, 2016, 03:26:36 PM
Who got the goal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 14, 2016, 03:34:45 PM
All over 1-21 to 2-12.

Not a great game or performance. But a wins a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 03:37:40 PM
The goal came from a free from the 65 and dropped in over the keeper. Clarkie hit it. Not sure if there was a connection.....Saul Mc Caughan is some addition to the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2016, 05:11:35 PM
Excluding play offs, is that Antrim's first league win since 2013?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2016, 05:13:08 PM
Strike up the band
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 14, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
......or is it 2012?   ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 14, 2016, 06:18:45 PM
It's D2 in fairness SIE.  And ropey at that.  Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

We'll win that division for a couple of reasons.  That was arguably our toughest game and even though we were crap we won handy enough. We've big players to come into the starting 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 07:01:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

We'll win that division for a couple of reasons.  That was arguably our toughest game and even though we were crap we won handy enough. We've big players to come into the starting 15.

Who HS?

From what is out there at the moment Shorty sidelined with injury Neil and Aaron travelling, yes a couple of the other lads will come in but does that take us to a different level than today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2016, 07:11:08 PM
Very difficult to play quality hurling this time of year, if anyone watched the Waterford Cats game would have seen that....its difficult this time of year to be a cut above the rest... Antrim have the quality but they need to match the fight in the other teams to allow their skills to win out in the end, if we get into a physical fight we'll loose or just hold on for a win..

The win is all that matters, I expect us to be fitter and stronger as we move towards harder surfaces and warmer weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 07:13:11 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 07:01:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

We'll win that division for a couple of reasons.  That was arguably our toughest game and even though we were crap we won handy enough. We've big players to come into the starting 15.

Who HS?

From what is out there at the moment Shorty sidelined with injury Neil and Aaron travelling, yes a couple of the other lads will come in but does that take us to a different level than today?

There are 4 players missing from that starting 15. Eoghan Campbell, Ryan McCambridge, Carson and Shorty. Add to that the Burkes and Sean McAfee. Saul McCaughan will start as he's one of the best attackers in the county and presumably didn't start today as he joined the panel late.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

Very possibly. Not sure how many starters we are really missing. Would say campbell and mccambridge only certs. I'm guessing mccambridge is a cert now?

Carson might start but not a.cert.

Kildare gave carlow a game i see. Didn't see result but they were winning at half time too. I don't think derry will be our toughest game and think we could be in for a few tough ones especially on the road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

Very possibly. Not sure how many starters we are really missing. Would say campbell and mccambridge only certs. I'm guessing mccambridge is a cert now?

Carson might start but not a.cert.

Kildare gave carlow a game i see. Didn't see result but they were winning at half time too. I don't think derry will be our toughest game and think we could be in for a few tough ones especially on the road.

That was my point really, not too much missing and against probably one of the weaker teams and we struggled. Not being pessimistic but it looks like we have found our level for the next while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 14, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

We'll win that division for a couple of reasons.  That was arguably our toughest game and even though we were crap we won handy enough. We've big players to come into the starting 15.
Toughest game?? Your arse!! That's a very poor Derry team. We've got Carlow & Westmeath who beat us last year!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

Very possibly. Not sure how many starters we are really missing. Would say campbell and mccambridge only certs. I'm guessing mccambridge is a cert now?

Carson might start but not a.cert.

Kildare gave carlow a game i see. Didn't see result but they were winning at half time too. I don't think derry will be our toughest game and think we could be in for a few tough ones especially on the road.

That was my point really, not too much missing and against probably one of the weaker teams and we struggled. Not being pessimistic but it looks like we have found our level for the next while.

We'll win our home games v Carlow and Kildare and away to London. After today it will come down to away v Westmeath which I think we'll win also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Twitter credited it to nugent. Good win. Possibly tighter than expected but tighter games better for us anyway

Good win for kerry over laois. (Assuming it's finished)

Tighter games? Does this show us our true level?

Very possibly. Not sure how many starters we are really missing. Would say campbell and mccambridge only certs. I'm guessing mccambridge is a cert now?

Carson might start but not a.cert.

Kildare gave carlow a game i see. Didn't see result but they were winning at half time too. I don't think derry will be our toughest game and think we could be in for a few tough ones especially on the road.

That was my point really, not too much missing and against probably one of the weaker teams and we struggled. Not being pessimistic but it looks like we have found our level for the next while.

We'll win our home games v Carlow and Kildare and away to London. After today it will come down to away v Westmeath which I think we'll win also.

Got to love the optimism Carlow are a more than decent side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 08:12:51 PM
Yeah i would probably agree nag about maybe finding our level. There will be plenty of tight games.

Think we're still in a better place than last year though with squad and manager but carlow, westmeath etc will give us our fill of it. We've done nothing to merit thinking we will hammer any of these teams in a long while so we just need to knuckle down and definitely ensure no complacency.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 08:33:29 PM
Don't think 2A will be a problem for us. We were awful today and still won handy enough. We'll be in the final v Westmeath I'd guess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
Are there any slaughtneil players play for derry? Anyone at the game with a program able to answer that??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 14, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
Are there any slaughtneil players play for derry? Anyone at the game with a program able to answer that??

2 started Mark McGuigan and Gareth O'Kane
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
Are there any slaughtneil players play for derry? Anyone at the game with a program able to answer that??

There is an issue with them and the County very few of them if any turn out for the under age set ups in Derry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 09:32:27 PM
Oh i thought it was just senior.  It's a pity to see that. Derry county board seem to have a pretty bad attitude to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 14, 2016, 10:49:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2016, 09:32:27 PM
Oh i thought it was just senior.  It's a pity to see that. Derry county board seem to have a pretty bad attitude to hurling.

Are you suggesting slaughtneil issue is down to county board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
Don't know enough about it to be honest but it's a general observation and i'm sure doesn't help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 15, 2016, 07:46:49 AM
I thought the Slaughtneil boys issue was having to choose of Football or Hurling for the county?

I think maybe a few are being too negative after our first real match of the year and at that only the first half of the first match since we got 1-15 in the second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 15, 2016, 08:25:01 AM
Great to hear Antrim aren't the only county feuding county then!
Agree away in mullingar should be the toughest test but if we can't get out of this division it really would have me in despair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 15, 2016, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 15, 2016, 08:25:01 AM
Great to hear Antrim aren't the only county feuding county then!
Agree away in mullingar should be the toughest test but if we can't get out of this division it really would have me in despair.

The biggest issue with getting out of this division will be the playoff against a 1B side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 15, 2016, 09:25:56 AM
Have to agree with others here about ydays game, i thought we played crap for long periods of the game. Passing was dreadfull in the first half playing pointless balls to spaces no one was there.

It seems that we need to do a lot more work with regards to the system that we are going to play. It will take time to get right.

Thought Ciaran Clarke, Neil McAuley, Eddie and McKernan played well. Some bad shooting by Liam as well missing 2 shocking frees at the start of the game that Clarke had to take over. Was a poor enough game by Liam over all.

Saul McCaughan scored a peace of a point from a really tight angle when he came on, hopefully we get to see more of him.

Its def early days and the result is all that counted. There will be tougher games against Carlow and Westmeath to come as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Could be worse.... The Laois lads are looking rid of Cheddar ffs!!

Anyone who thought that we'd get a walkover in our first league game with new manager, different tactics employed and without players from Cushendall who have been our consistent players in defence and attack is deluded...

Lets get to the next game win it and improve on our performance... Some individual performances could improve which will bring us on again....

Our main target (league wise) is now to get to playoff against Laois (after that result v Kerry) and we are going towards that with a win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on February 15, 2016, 12:35:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 08:55:08 PM
Hearing about a certain club (not mine) that's actively going round certain clubs that are struggling to field underage teams, that their better kids should hurl for them?? btdgtgtt, hardstation you hear about this??

MR2 - there are a few clubs at the minute that are seriously struggling to get teams out at hurling in under 12, 14 and 16. There is a simple reason for it - theyve not done enough work at under age to coach, be competitive, retain kids and attract new ones. If the club is not putting in a team at the age group then the kids and parents are entitled to look around and see what environment suits them best. Like wise why would clubs sit back and let some other club get good kids without putting forward a case for their own set up that have worked dam hard to create over years of hard work.

your own club wouldnt do it in the football - you dont need to look to far to see it! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on February 15, 2016, 12:35:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2016, 08:55:08 PM
Hearing about a certain club (not mine) that's actively going round certain clubs that are struggling to field underage teams, that their better kids should hurl for them?? btdgtgtt, hardstation you hear about this??

MR2 - there are a few clubs at the minute that are seriously struggling to get teams out at hurling in under 12, 14 and 16. There is a simple reason for it - theyve not done enough work at under age to coach, be competitive, retain kids and attract new ones. If the club is not putting in a team at the age group then the kids and parents are entitled to look around and see what environment suits them best. Like wise why would clubs sit back and let some other club get good kids without putting forward a case for their own set up that have worked dam hard to create over years of hard work.

your own club wouldnt do it in the football - you dont need to look to far to see it! :)

I wouldn't be for it at my club either, I've said that, I've also said for many years that there are too many clubs in Belfast and that causes this problem of fielding teams... A joined up approach is needed for that too.... My beef lets say is coaches going to certain players (better players) and trying to coax or poach them away with tales of winning championships!!

By all means and we've had sanction players in the past (some have stayed, others have went back) facilitate these lads with games at another club, just don't take the best ones cause the other ones will wonder what's the point!! I don't know, call me old fashion but people that do that are dciks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 16, 2016, 01:26:05 PM
Andy Watters
16 February, 2016 01:00

NEAL McAULEY had a tough time of it last Sunday. In the first-half, the Ballycastle clubman faced into the icy wind that whistled down Celtic Park towards the Foyle and helped carry a series of monster frees from Derry's Ruairi Convery over Antrim's bar.

Then, in the second-half, the full-back and skipper was blinded by the low spring sun that meant he could only guess where the sliotar was when the Oak Leafers went on the attack. Fortunately for McAuley and his fellow Antrim defenders, Derry didn't muster too many attacks after the break. The visiting forwards and midfielders were well in control and Antrim made good a five-point deficit at half-time to win by six at the finish.

"We wanted two points and we got two points," said McAuley.

"We went about it the hard way in the first-half, but Derry came out and played very well in the first. We were a bit slow starting, but we got into it in the second-half. At the end of the day, we didn't play well, but we got two points. We ground out a victory."

Any notions Antrim's players might have had about cantering through Division 2A were quickly dispelled last Sunday. Derry were well worth their half-time lead and showed more stomach for battle throughout the first period.

"We were probably told a few home truths at half-time," McAuley admitted.

"We came up there and we maybe didn't give Derry the respect they deserve. We were sluggish and, at half-time, we said we were going to get the first few points on the board, which we did and we drive on from there."

Antrim host Kildare on Sunday and the Lilywhites won't travel north with much confidence after they lost 2-13 to 0-14 at home to Carlow: "Again, it's going to be a very difficult fixture," said McAuley.

"We have to show every team respect because this is our level and we have to accept that - we can't think we're better than anybody else, this is our level. It's a tough assignment next week, we're at home, hopefully at Ballycastle and, again, the plan will be to try and get two points.

"Our hardest task over the next few years will be to get out of this league because everybody is chomping to get out and the teams are all of a similar ability. It's going to be extremely tight and it could come down to points' difference."

As the game wore on, Antrim did look a class above their hosts and they picked up some fine scores in the game, with James Black and Saul McCaughey marking their debuts with points.

"To be fair, Derry are missing a lot of players, they've lost about 15 players over the last couple of years," said McAuley.

"You have to note that, but our hurling did show as well whenever we got a bit of time and space. It was good to see, but surely there's more to come from us. We're missing four or five players ourselves from the Cushendall lads and a few injuries but, after Cushendall finish the All-Ireland, hopefully the manager should have a full squad to pick from.

"It's good to get into the National League, we've been playing Conor McGurk Cup and Walsh Cup but, at the end of the day, the league is more important. We want to get wins and points on the board to see if we can get out of this division."

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2016/02/16/news/antrim-full-back-neal-mcauley-relieved-to-come-through-celtic-park-test-418634/?param=ds441rif44T
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 16, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
Ruari Convery is quality and a beast. His free taking is as good as I've seen. Neal McAuley did well to keep him quiet from play.  PS anyone know what height he is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on February 16, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
6 " 10. eats 20 spuds and 20 chickens a day. uses a 42" hurl
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 16, 2016, 02:47:46 PM
Quote from: Link on February 16, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
6 " 10. eats 20 spuds and 20 chickens a day. uses a 42" hurl

Hurlers don't eat spuds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2016, 03:06:07 PM
Don't think he's any more than 6 foot 5 or so...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 16, 2016, 07:00:00 PM
Some say he eats toast with his bare hands
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 16, 2016, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2016, 03:06:07 PM
Don't think he's any more than 6 foot 5 or so...

Kneeling  down....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 16, 2016, 11:16:30 PM

Casement Park: New plans due in 'Q3 2016' says minister
Planning approval to redevelop Casement was overturned in the High Court after it was ruled unlawful
   
Brendan Hughes
16 February, 2016 01:00
A NEW planning application for the troubled Casement Park project is expected to be submitted in the "third quarter of 2016", the sports minister has said.

Sinn Féin's Carál Ní Chuilín said there was still a "strong resolve" in the GAA to construct a regional stadium at the west Belfast site.

Planning approval to redevelop Casement was overturned in the High Court in 2014 after a judge ruled it was unlawful.

Residents brought the successful legal challenge to halt construction after objecting to the size of the proposed stadium, which had a capacity of 38,000.

A Stormont inquiry is also continuing into safety concerns and whether the initial proposals had properly considered emergency exiting arrangements.

In May last year the GAA had suggested it was weeks away from launching a fresh planning bid.

But in response to an assembly question from Ulster Unionist MLA Roy Beggs, Ms Ní Chuilín said an application is expected in the latter half of this year.

"I expect that the GAA will commence the consultation process in early March 2016 and that a new planning application will be submitted in the third quarter of 2016," she said.

The minister said her department "remains committed to the redevelopment of Casement Park and will continue to work with all parties to ensure successful delivery of the project".

   
16 February, 2016 01:00 NEWS

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 17, 2016, 07:34:53 AM
Forgot about the play-off game.
That could make promotion hugely more daunting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on February 17, 2016, 09:54:53 AM
Do Antrim people outside of Belfast want Casement redeveloped?
Your county obviously needs a decent county ground but would it be better placed more centrally in the county rather than Belfast?
I hated going to the place and with the traffic getting worse and worse around Belfast it'll make getting to it even more depressing! Never thought there was much atmosphere around it either as the stands were so far from the pitch (that might be rectified in the new plans however).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
Ballymena/Antrim/Randlestown would be the ideal locations. Something which held 15000 max would more than suit Antrims requirements
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on February 17, 2016, 10:41:40 AM
But its not only an Antrim ground, its a provincial ground. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 17, 2016, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 17, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
Ballymena/Antrim/Randlestown would be the ideal locations. Something which held 15000 max would more than suit Antrims requirements

Not to rehash the old ground with decisions already made rightly or wrongly, I agree with Skull.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 17, 2016, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 17, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
Ballymena/Antrim/Randlestown would be the ideal locations. Something which held 15000 max would more than suit Antrims requirements

Not to rehash the old ground with decisions already made rightly or wrongly, I agree with Skull.

Course you would  ::)

Be like having Croke Park outside Dublin City or Páirc Uí Chaoimh outside Cork ...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 17, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
Does anyone know when the league fixtures are out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 17, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: faughs on February 17, 2016, 10:41:40 AM
But its not only an Antrim ground, its a provincial ground.

Correctamundo, owned and controlled by the Ulster Council, with Antrim GAA (and the social club) as a sitting tenant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 17, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Quote from: faughs on February 17, 2016, 10:41:40 AM
But its not only an Antrim ground, its a provincial ground.

Indeed. The new ground will suit those happy to receive massive funding and build a behemoth structure to suit their own ends. It won't suit Antrim though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 17, 2016, 01:17:26 PM
the number of supporters who was there on sun at the derry match i would of been even colder in casement park!

Would make no sense to open the ground with so little people at a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 17, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 17, 2016, 01:17:26 PM
the number of supporters who was there on sun at the derry match i would of been even colder in casement park!

Would make no sense to open the ground with so little people at a game

The change of venue wouldn't help it along with a few boys not being allowed to go as it was Valentines day lol This Sunday maybe be a better bench mark
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
If you build it, they will come... ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 18, 2016, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
If you build it, they will come... ::)

It will cost £X to open and run a 38000 seater Casement on match day. There will be Y supporters required in the stadium to break even. The problem is that we will never reach Y for national league or even cship matches. Ulster council will soon close the doors on us as they're opening it regularly at a loss. All about the $$$$$$$ folks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 18, 2016, 04:14:52 PM
If someone gave you a free 20000 square foot house that would bankrupt you in running costs (holidays stopped, cancel gym membership, music/dance tuition stopped, sell family airlooms to stay afloat etc etc) would you take it if you knew you couldn't sell it and HAD to stay there? I know I wouldn't, but that's what Antrim and the Ulster Council are for doing.

Antrim should have negotiated a deal to set up a separate facility that suited their needs. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: doodaa on February 17, 2016, 09:54:53 AM
Do Antrim people outside of Belfast want Casement redeveloped?
Your county obviously needs a decent county ground but would it be better placed more centrally in the county rather than Belfast?
I hated going to the place and with the traffic getting worse and worse around Belfast it'll make getting to it even more depressing! Never thought there was much atmosphere around it either as the stands were so far from the pitch (that might be rectified in the new plans however).

I thought the hurling final at dunloy this year was great. Casement is too vacant for our finals as we don't get enough people and it hurts the atmosphere. The smaller grounds have much better atmospheres in them.

County games we need a middle ground in terms of capacity and venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
yeah def. the days of casement being open for local matches are numbered. It wont happen as it will cost too much to cover the over heads at the ground.

Sure look at the new Windsor park. Cliftonville v ards league cup final played at another ground as it was too expensive to play at the supposit home of norn iron fitba.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2016, 05:32:51 PM
Very possibly the same thing that could happen with casement i suspect dr.

I'd love to see us get a big game with some big guns and our own county football or hurling in casement but it's not really "ours" any more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 19, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/Giants%20Causeway%20HC%20Jersey%20CAD%2062591-5-2_zpsw4j5ly9a.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Weste on February 19, 2016, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 18, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: doodaa on February 17, 2016, 09:54:53 AM
Do Antrim people outside of Belfast want Casement redeveloped?
Your county obviously needs a decent county ground but would it be better placed more centrally in the county rather than Belfast?
I hated going to the place and with the traffic getting worse and worse around Belfast it'll make getting to it even more depressing! Never thought there was much atmosphere around it either as the stands were so far from the pitch (that might be rectified in the new plans however).

I thought the hurling final at dunloy this year was great. Casement is too vacant for our finals as we don't get enough people and it hurts the atmosphere. The smaller grounds have much better atmospheres in them.

County games we need a middle ground in terms of capacity and venue.

Are there any plans to hold county games at dunsilly when it's finished? Like Derry do at owenbeg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 20, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
What a a wash out of a few months. Pitch is going to be a nightmare tomorrow. Anyone been on it past week or so?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on February 20, 2016, 09:46:48 PM
Saw something about Division 1 hurling starting 17 April - anyone know if that is the same for the other divisions.

Are all divisions 8 teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 21, 2016, 12:39:10 PM
Jesus has there ever been so much apathy towards an Antrim senior hurling game? I'll go and pay my £8 in (which seems ridiculous) anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 21, 2016, 02:39:26 PM
Half time

Antrim 1 - 15  Kildare 1  -  6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 21, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
London gave Carlow a big beating.... How good are London?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2016, 04:20:59 PM
Finished 3-25 to 3-13. The defence needs shored up. That should be helped when the Cushendall lads return.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2016, 04:20:59 PM
Finished 3-25 to 3-13. The defence needs shored up. That should be helped when the Cushendall lads return.
Agreed leaking three goals against Kildare is not good enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 21, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2016, 04:20:59 PM
Finished 3-25 to 3-13. The defence needs shored up. That should be helped when the Cushendall lads return.
Agreed leaking three goals against Kildare is not good enough

2 of the goals were really poor but I wouldn't read too much into it. Antrim were cantering and didn't have their first choice keeper in goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 21, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 04:21:26 PM
watson of panel I see so much for all the press last week
Saul done a good job in his place anyway
he wasn't togged today.  But isn't "of panel" as far as I no.  Young Saul getting 2-2 maybe 2-3.  Some wee player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2016, 06:45:34 PM
It's very quiet from over the mountain. Quietly confident?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on February 21, 2016, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on February 21, 2016, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 04:21:26 PM
watson of panel I see so much for all the press last week
Saul done a good job in his place anyway
He'll be back on Tuesday night. He isn't "off the panel" . You'd do well to get your facts 100% correct before sticking the knife in.  ;)

I agree about Saul. He's an excellent hurler.
Ok seeing as your the fountain of all knowledge could you tell us why he didn't start today
If it's for the reason I heard he is a liability and a bad example
I know one thing his replacement put in a good shift and should retain his place next day
the reason he wasn't there was a family matter and not for posting on here.   Believe what you want.  Just another excuse to get sticking the knife in.  And you jumped at the chance. Good man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 21, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
Did PJ make it in time for throw in this time  ;) ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 21, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 19, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/Giants%20Causeway%20HC%20Jersey%20CAD%2062591-5-2_zpsw4j5ly9a.jpg)

Is this a new club or what's the deal? Nice top all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on February 21, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Saul was unreal today and Clarkie wasn't far behind him. I thought Niall McKenna had a really good game too. Moving in the right direction. Can just about feel my toes again now though, was freezing lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 21, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on February 21, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Saul was unreal today and Clarkie wasn't far behind him. I thought Niall McKenna had a really good game too. Moving in the right direction. Can just about feel my toes again now though, was freezing lol

Was freezing alright. Great to have Saul in there. His catch for his 2nd goal was incredible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 21, 2016, 07:33:36 PM
Especially when you consider Saul didn't have the same preseason as the rest of them, I think that was only his second game this season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 21, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
What's the latest with Mr Watson, I'm hearing he's been kicked off the panel for boozing. Any truth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 08:19:28 PM
Quote from: cfclg on February 21, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
What's the latest with Mr Watson, I'm hearing he's been kicked off the panel for boozing. Any truth?

I have have just received some info on that subject after having a go myself
There are personal reasons this time so best to leave the subject alone this time

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 21, 2016, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on February 21, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 19, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/Giants%20Causeway%20HC%20Jersey%20CAD%2062591-5-2_zpsw4j5ly9a.jpg)

Is this a new club or what's the deal? Nice top all the same
New hurling club in Chicago so if you know of anyone who's coming out this way for the summer let us know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 21, 2016, 08:41:29 PM
Its easy to jump to conclusions with Liam because he went missing in action before, so hopefully we will see him for the next game. An incredible hurler and we need everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 21, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 21, 2016, 08:19:28 PM
Quote from: cfclg on February 21, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
What's the latest with Mr Watson, I'm hearing he's been kicked off the panel for boozing. Any truth?

I have have just received some info on that subject after having a go myself
There are personal reasons this time so best to leave the subject alone this time

Hopefully he's back soon. Seemed to be really enjoying it and giving it a real go this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 21, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 21, 2016, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on February 21, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 19, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/BALLINTOY/Giants%20Causeway%20HC%20Jersey%20CAD%2062591-5-2_zpsw4j5ly9a.jpg)

Is this a new club or what's the deal? Nice top all the same
New hurling club in Chicago so if you know of anyone who's coming out this way for the summer let us know.

Ah right sound that makes more sense lol, I was wondering why there wasnt more word about a new club round the coast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 21, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Daniel McKernan off the panel or is he injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on February 21, 2016, 10:18:57 PM
Hey "mo chara" hopefully someday we will have a hurling team round there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on February 21, 2016, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 21, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Daniel McKernan off the panel or is he injured?

Injured unfortunately
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 22, 2016, 11:06:57 AM
Never got to the game on sunday but from what i heard that we were comfortable throughout. seen sauls goal on the official twitter account and he took them well. That catch for the second goal is something else. What a great player he looks!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2016, 09:06:19 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/thumbs-up-after-win-number-2

Cracking photo on county website,what a great goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 22, 2016, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2016, 09:06:19 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/thumbs-up-after-win-number-2

Cracking photo on county website,what a great goal

Kildare net minder not a great advert for inter county hurling at this level!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on February 23, 2016, 08:36:13 AM
Where league fixtures released last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 23, 2016, 08:39:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 22, 2016, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 22, 2016, 09:06:19 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/thumbs-up-after-win-number-2

Cracking photo on county website,what a great goal

Kildare net minder not a great advert for inter county hurling at this level!
Plenty of gear on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2016, 09:09:28 AM
Noticed there this morning again that there has been no work done at Dunsilly for quite some time. The building is up above cill level and hasnt had any work done to it in 2 months.

All this big push and pics etc online at the start yet its all ground to a halt again. From some one involved in the construction trade that can mean only one thing, the money isnt there to keep the work going!

Would love to know whats going on as it looks bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 24, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 09:09:28 AM
Noticed there this morning again that there has been no work done at Dunsilly for quite some time. The building is up above cill level and hasnt had any work done to it in 2 months.

All this big push and pics etc online at the start yet its all ground to a halt again. From some one involved in the construction trade that can mean only one thing, the money isnt there to keep the work going!

Would love to know whats going on as it looks bad

Must have been all hands to the pump to get the fixtures out  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 09:09:28 AM
Noticed there this morning again that there has been no work done at Dunsilly for quite some time. The building is up above cill level and hasnt had any work done to it in 2 months.

All this big push and pics etc online at the start yet its all ground to a halt again. From some one involved in the construction trade that can mean only one thing, the money isnt there to keep the work going!

Would love to know whats going on as it looks bad

I'm sure we can all say it's early days - but can anyone tell me what has been achieved by Saffron Vision so far?
What fresh impetus has actually occurred - where is this injection of progress?
But then again - I'm not sure what they ever said they would do!

So far, I've seen Casement covered by billboards to try to hide the shame from that's inside it.
And by the way, an explosion of social media proclaiming everything is fantastic within Antrim GAA just doesn't cut it for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2016, 09:49:33 AM
im the same as you, whilst i welcome the social media interaction from the country towards the clubs in getting information out and promoting whats going on its a case of same old same old for me.

I see there on twitter that some league fixtures will be out this weekend with the rest out in their entirety next week.

Casement park is best forgot about and we accept corrigan and ballycastle for the next number of years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:35:23 AM
Indeed DR - I welcome social media interaction - but it reminds me a bit of Donald Trump!
Information is one thing but a lot of it is all bluster with no substance behind it.

Casement seems to be absolutely nothing to do with the GAA anymore let alone Antrim - its in the realm of politicos now. An incredible scenario.

All this social media nonsense spouting stuff maybe a teenage kid might find interesting - but not a word about where Saffron Vision is bringing Dunsilly or fixtures planning or a plan to Ulster or motion to Congress - you know, adult stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!

Can't say much without the gauntlet rush of "don't be so negative".

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!

Can't say much without the gauntlet rush of "don't be so negative".

Nothing has happened with these projects in the last 5/6 years and you were expecting it all to be done in the 2 months after Antrim Vision was put in place?? FFS lad, I thought you'd a bitta sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
i more interested in the building project as its something i work with each day. To see any project stood still for a long period is never a good thing. Its generally a bad sign esp if a big company is involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 24, 2016, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!

Can't say much without the gauntlet rush of "don't be so negative".

Nothing has happened with these projects in the last 5/6 years and you were expecting it all to be done in the 2 months after Antrim Vision was put in place?? FFS lad, I thought you'd a bitta sense

Totally agree, it would take a few months just to look at the books, see where you are and put a plan in place in order to not make the same mistakes again. things couldn't continue in the direction they were going, therefor you would have to plan what is going to happen, when its going to happen and in what order (priorities). Or would you just prefer to continue on the same ad hoc path which we have been on, stumbling from one disaster to another?. I would say just fighting their way through the financials (and finding a large debt) has taken a lot of time and energy already. Agree with the lads about the social media overdrive though... the next time i see a photo of Chris Kerr and his mates in the gym (as i tuck into my Chinese) i'm cancaling my twitter  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on February 24, 2016, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
i more interested in the building project as its something i work with each day. To see any project stood still for a long period is never a good thing. Its generally a bad sign esp if a big company is involved.

if its somthing you work with each day then what would you do? if you came across a multi million pound project that was stop start from the word go (both legally and financially) and you took over the reigns, would you walk in and start laying brick? or would you take the project apart, costings, legal holdups, current expenditure available, prioritize necessities and extras which could be done in the future and plan it your way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!

Can't say much without the gauntlet rush of "don't be so negative".

Nothing has happened with these projects in the last 5/6 years and you were expecting it all to be done in the 2 months after Antrim Vision was put in place?? FFS lad, I thought you'd a bitta sense

Oh dear MR2.
Who expected it all to be done in 2/3 months?

I said I'd prefer information about Dunsilly progress (and other things) from our new self promoted regime - other than as Gizzy said pictures of our footballers pretending to be boxers.

Do try to read the exact content.
Did you believe I wrote a post suggesting dunsilly should be done
- really?
I thought you'd a Bitta sense ;)

Meanwhile I will wait on saffron vision producing anything other than a social media campaign.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 24, 2016, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on February 24, 2016, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
i more interested in the building project as its something i work with each day. To see any project stood still for a long period is never a good thing. Its generally a bad sign esp if a big company is involved.

if its somthing you work with each day then what would you do? if you came across a multi million pound project that was stop start from the word go (both legally and financially) and you took over the reigns, would you walk in and start laying brick? or would you take the project apart, costings, legal holdups, current expenditure available, prioritize necessities and extras which could be done in the future and plan it your way?

It started with a bang and big wooohaa all over the media etc and then its stopped for months with nothing happening. If there is some sort of legal hold ups due to legal, statutaory approvals etc then it shouldnt of been started.

We were awarded £800k last year in funding from DCAL so money shouldnt be an issue. Antrim county are putting £100k of their own money into it.

Just get thing built ffs and stop with all this waiting. In the mean time our county teams have no where to play and rely on clubs to let them use their facilities while the rest of ireland develops newer and better facilities and we continue to lag behind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 01:34:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 09:09:28 AM
Noticed there this morning again that there has been no work done at Dunsilly for quite some time. The building is up above cill level and hasnt had any work done to it in 2 months.

All this big push and pics etc online at the start yet its all ground to a halt again. From some one involved in the construction trade that can mean only one thing, the money isnt there to keep the work going!

Would love to know whats going on as it looks bad

I'm sure we can all say it's early days - but can anyone tell me what has been achieved by Saffron Vision so far?
What fresh impetus has actually occurred - where is this injection of progress?
But then again - I'm not sure what they ever said they would do!

So far, I've seen Casement covered by billboards to try to hide the shame from that's inside it.
And by the way, an explosion of social media proclaiming everything is fantastic within Antrim GAA just doesn't cut it for me.

Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
The dunsilly one is one that interests me as i pass it every day on the training going to and from Belfast to work. Each day i look to see if something is happening and each day nout!

There was a real push there for a while but for that past 2 months nothing has happened. To me it means theres no money to do the work.

Maybe its about time we asked for a status update on social media to see if they come back to us about it!

Can't say much without the gauntlet rush of "don't be so negative".

Nothing has happened with these projects in the last 5/6 years and you were expecting it all to be done in the 2 months after Antrim Vision was put in place?? FFS lad, I thought you'd a bitta sense

Oh dear MR2.
Who expected it all to be done in 2/3 months?

I said I'd prefer information about Dunsilly progress (and other things) from our new self promoted regime - other than as Gizzy said pictures of our footballers pretending to be boxers.

Do try to read the exact content.
Did you believe I wrote a post suggesting dunsilly should be done
- really?
I thought you'd a Bitta sense ;)

Meanwhile I will wait on saffron vision producing anything other than a social media campaign.


You want to know about what they have done in 2/3 months, where is their fresh impetus ... quite frankly having the billboards up around Casement is a good thing, and something the other ones should have thought about also... social media is how young and old nowadays get information and creates an interest that's why we have advertising so regardless of looking at Chris Kerr its still generating an interest...

what was your realistic timelines for things to happen ? considering how long its taken for nothing to happen in the past? Suppose its hard to calculate considering it was a feck up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 24, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
Does anyone on here know when the club hurling league fixtures are out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 05:06:39 PM
Ok Mr2 - I'm all for social media and billboards but must have missed the bits of saffron vision which detailed 3months would achieve billboards & tweets.
Can't wait for the rest of their tenure.
Maybe it might involve providing some information to Antrim Gaels about the issues DR raised for example - actually no - i will go follow boxercise with the rest of the kids.
I was wondering about information regarding competitions planning but instead maybe I will check if it's written on those billboards.
After all, they are one of the most positive things from saffron vision it seems.
Is there a hashtag or a like for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on February 24, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Here's my 'Saffron Vision'. Let's just forget about Casement folks and let's put all our eggs into Dunsilly. Let's get it over the line. Let's make it like what Derry have in Owenbeg and treat it as our new county ground, something our elite athletes can train/play/recover on/in. Something we can be proud of. Casement is dead forever IMO. A bit radical maybe but let's look after ourselves here and make the most of a bad situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: cfclg on February 24, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Here's my 'Saffron Vision'. Let's just forget about Casement folks and let's put all our eggs into Dunsilly. Let's get it over the line. Let's make it like what Derry have in Owenbeg and treat it as our new county ground, something our elite athletes can train/play/recover on/in. Something we can be proud of. Casement is dead forever IMO. A bit radical maybe but let's look after ourselves here and make the most of a bad situation.

I agree - and don't think it looks like there's any other show in town.
DR's assessment isn't great and there a distinct lack of information never mind vision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
Geeze are you so hungry for information on Casement Dunsilly? go and ask someone on Antrim committee cause coming on here and basically stirring things and (no offence DR) unless you are speaking to the actual contractor for Dunsilly then getting yourself worked up over something you have no control over is a bit petty...

Ask yourself a couple of questions first.... Where you happy with what the previous crowd had done over the period of time they in charge?? How long did you give them before giving off???

I don't know Antrim vision lads personally but like most people I'll judge them on what they have done, so give the a chance  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
Geeze are you so hungry for information on Casement Dunsilly? go and ask someone on Antrim committee cause coming on here and basically stirring things and (no offence DR) unless you are speaking to the actual contractor for Dunsilly then getting yourself worked up over something you have no control over is a bit petty...

Ask yourself a couple of questions first.... Where you happy with what the previous crowd had done over the period of time they in charge?? How long did you give them before giving off???

I don't know Antrim vision lads personally but like most people I'll judge them on what they have done, so give the a chance  ;)

I'm not worked up at all MR2 - I made a simple point which you erroneously jumped on so now you're making a different argument.

But since you did - if the most positive thing we can say about our saffron vision is that they ain't as bad as the last cowboys - then that holds as much credence as tweets and billboards.

As for approaching the board for information - well firstly a visionary board might have used their social media onslaught to supply it - and secondly I have! I can tell you our new board have recruited some assistance - you would be surprised who! Let's just say some have held previous county offices in previous administrations.

So basically I'm still to find your beef with a single point I have made.
I think there's a reason for that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on February 24, 2016, 09:51:29 PM
Saffron Vision no longer exists. We have a County Board who delivered a comprehensive report to club delegates on Monday past. The main issues haven't gone away, but they are being addressed. It will take some time yet to see any positive outcomes. If you want any further detail then speak with your club delegates...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
Geeze are you so hungry for information on Casement Dunsilly? go and ask someone on Antrim committee cause coming on here and basically stirring things and (no offence DR) unless you are speaking to the actual contractor for Dunsilly then getting yourself worked up over something you have no control over is a bit petty...

Ask yourself a couple of questions first.... Where you happy with what the previous crowd had done over the period of time they in charge?? How long did you give them before giving off???

I don't know Antrim vision lads personally but like most people I'll judge them on what they have done, so give the a chance  ;)

I'm not worked up at all MR2 - I made a simple point which you erroneously jumped on so now you're making a different argument.

But since you did - if the most positive thing we can say about our saffron vision is that they ain't as bad as the last cowboys - then that holds as much credence as tweets and billboards.

As for approaching the board for information - well firstly a visionary board might have used their social media onslaught to supply it - and secondly I have! I can tell you our new board have recruited some assistance - you would be surprised who! Let's just say some have held previous county offices in previous administrations.

So basically I'm still to find your beef with a single point I have made.
I think there's a reason for that.

I have no beef with the county board, you do....si you e asked questions that you already know from talking to the Antrim committee?? Are you going to share them? They are 2/3 month's in... If you started a new job and were given an appraisal after 3 months to fix the wrongs of the last person, how would you fair??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 24, 2016, 10:27:05 PM
Jdyok - I acknowledge your point on saffron vision but they were openly happy with their mandate even if it was not unanimous. I've spoken to both club men and county men.

Mr2 - I have never expected (again) everything to be done - never said anything if the sort. But that 3 month appraisal would be looking for more than billboards and tweets. And I have no beef with the board - it's never personal - they've just had a really s**t first three months. (Which privately they don't dispute).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 25, 2016, 12:52:28 AM
Our club delegate reported a totally refreshed and vibrant set up from initial meetings. Some small but positive steps taken already towards financial accountability etc. I expect Dunsilly to finish up a good facility and in a few years we will see Casement redeveloped to a highly satisfactory level.

I think it may take a few years but the current board will leave this county in a much better place than they found it. So while I understand that not everyone is an eternal optimist like myself I would ask that we keep things as positive as possible as one of our biggest failings has been the constant negativity we spout at every opportunity. Let's stick with this and give it a chance.

And if our PRO checks in here...keep up the great work.  Plus the website guestbook administrator is a helluva lot more pleasant than the smart arsed know all replies we we fed only a few years ago.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2016, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: bannside on February 25, 2016, 12:52:28 AM
Our club delegate reported a totally refreshed and vibrant set up from initial meetings. What does this actually mean? They smile more?  Some small but positive steps taken already towards financial accountability etc. What does this actually mean? What finance was unaccounted for that is now?I expect Dunsilly to finish up a good facility I very much hope so - did your Club delegate have any actual/real info on this? Or did it just seem vibrant and refreshing. and in a few years we will see Casement redeveloped to a highly satisfactory level. It certainly will - but that's long past having anything to do with Antrim GAA.

I think it may take a few years but the current board will leave this county in a much better place than they found it. So while I understand that not everyone is an eternal optimist like myself I would ask that we keep things as positive as possible. Blindly positive is still blind - I just want something more than tweets and billboards to be positive about.. as one of our biggest failings has been the constant negativity we spout at every opportunity. What's said on this board? It's just a discussion board. It matters not. Let's stick with this and give it a chance. Indeed.

And if our PRO checks in here...keep up the great work. Agreed - the PRO is doing fantastic work. Nobody disputed that or said any different. Plus the website guestbook administrator is a helluva lot more pleasant than the smart arsed know all replies we we fed only a few years ago.Good - the previous one was an embarrassment

I'm very much hoping that (including current board members I've spoken to) we get something positive soon. Something actually new and tangible that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
lads i merely pondered a simple question - why in the past 2 months has nothing happened at dunsilly - nothing more.

i was hoping that with all the work that started that come the summer we would be looking at teams training on the facilities that ive sat and watched over grow every morning for the past few years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 25, 2016, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 25, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
lads i merely pondered a simple question - why in the past 2 months has nothing happened at dunsilly - nothing more.

i was hoping that with all the work that started that come the summer we would be looking at teams training on the facilities that ive sat and watched over grow every morning for the past few years.

Look what you started.. made good reading lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
 ;D i know
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/353/279/e31.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 25, 2016, 10:26:20 AM
 ;) :)

I did say from the outset "cue the gauntlet rush of don't be so negative!"

Deep breath - be positive - everything in Antrim is on the way to glory. (and repeat).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2016, 11:04:01 AM
There was lots of fanfare the month before the convention about work starting again at Dunsilly. Is it possible that financial prudence was ignored ahead of electioneering prior to the convention and the current executive are paying for it now? Could be way off the mark.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 25, 2016, 12:20:03 PM
They were promised £800k of funding, but then again it was from the same people who promised casement park and that all the health & safety checks had been adhered to..........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on February 25, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Jumping ahead here a bit but I hear that Paddy McNaughton is returning to Cushendall in the summer. Would be a good boost with few boys away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigPat83 on February 26, 2016, 05:42:19 PM
Quote from: BigSmoke123 on February 25, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Jumping ahead here a bit but I hear that Paddy McNaughton is returning to Cushendall in the summer. Would be a good boost with few boys away
be a boost to Chinese sales in the dall. That would be the height of it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 26, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
I think someone must of been watcing the board, dunsilly rising  lol

Check out @GAASouth's Tweet: https://twitter.com/GAASouth/status/703301910397370368?s=09
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 26, 2016, 11:36:31 PM
Young st John's lad Odhran McKenna in bad way after an RTC tonight.
God be kind to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 27, 2016, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 26, 2016, 11:36:31 PM
Young st John's lad Odhran McKenna in bad way after an RTC tonight.
God be kind to him.


Some things more important than the GAA, thoughts and prayers with him and his family at this time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on February 27, 2016, 11:44:50 AM
Hope the lad pulls through, in my prayers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 29, 2016, 09:17:45 AM
Big day for Odhran and the McKenna clan today say a prayer all goes well folks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 01, 2016, 09:06:10 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 26, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
I think someone must of been watcing the board, dunsilly rising  lol

Check out @GAASouth's Tweet: https://twitter.com/GAASouth/status/703301910397370368?s=09

lol made me laugh, clearly someone was reading here.

Must be a slow riser  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2016, 09:38:53 AM
Not exactly crawling with tradesmen and machinery
When is completion date
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on March 01, 2016, 09:49:04 AM
Nothing has changed on site for well over 6 months. Someone trying to put a positive spin on a dormant building site!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 01, 2016, 12:01:09 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on March 01, 2016, 09:49:04 AM
Nothing has changed on site for well over 6 months. Someone trying to put a positive spin on a dormant building site!

How dare you!
You should worship at the positivity of our county tweet!
That building site is vibrant and enthusiastic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 01, 2016, 01:58:04 PM
im gona start a blog and take pics each day of the 'progress' lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2016, 10:55:59 AM
See my post regarding this on "the way forward" thread.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 02, 2016, 04:17:24 PM
Anybody know why there is a delay with club hurling fixtures coming out?? Football out last week I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2016, 04:43:49 PM
From what they tell me this new board are going to make football the priority for the next few years. This is further evidence.



......only joking in case you thought I was serious!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 02, 2016, 04:45:36 PM
football fixtures were all out last weekend, camogie fixtures are all out last week as well.

Hurling was promised for the start of the week but as of yet they still havent been released.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2016, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Lets win the league and get out of it, I couldn't care less if its by 100 points a match or 1... we wont improve by being in the lower divisions and for all best intensions you'll play at that standard for most parts of the game, that's just the way it is... once you get to 1B then the standard will be raised again and so will the performances .....

I've seen many a team be held by lesser lights for good majority of the game (and consider the conditions lately) and pull away in the end to win 'comfortably' while not looking comfortably during it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 11:41:04 PM
More positive news from St John's & the McKenna's.
Pray for more progress to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on March 05, 2016, 10:48:38 AM
u17 game today Antrim v Armagh is off. Armagh can't field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hope all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)

Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 06, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
Hurlers getting a trimming today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 06, 2016, 03:40:54 PM
Mullingar strikes again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 06, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
Hurlers getting a trimming today

Very poor result  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 06, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
Hurlers getting a trimming today

Very poor result  :(

Anyone at the game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you tosser!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!

No problem SG  ;)



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted.

I thought we would be closer to them than Derry
We just don't go well in mulingar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!

No problem SG  ;)
always the smug one nag.  Wonder how long it will last  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted.

I thought we would be closer to them than Derry
We just don't go well in mulingar
I did myself.  Westmeath isn't a bad team obviously. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted.

I thought we would be closer to them than Derry
We just don't go well in mulingar

Would never use that as a barometer... Be like saying Loughgiel beat NP and Cushendall beat Loughdiel so they'll win All Ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted.

I thought we would be closer to them than Derry
We just don't go well in mulingar

Would never use that as a barometer... Be like saying Loughgiel beat NP and Cushendall beat Loughdiel so they'll win All Ireland
exactly. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!

No problem SG  ;)
always the smug one nag.  Wonder how long it will last  ;D

Not smug at all just observing.
Kind of wondering the same thing myself SG but I am sure that time will tell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 04:18:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!

No problem SG  ;)
always the smug one nag.  Wonder how long it will last  ;D

Not smug at all just observing.
Kind of wondering the same thing myself SG but I am sure that time will tell.
yes.  Yes it will
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!

No problem SG  ;)
always the smug one nag.  Wonder how long it will last  ;D
sure you know the old saying SG- "ignorance is bliss"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
It's great to read how our county stick together in bad times ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
It's great to read how our county stick together in bad times ::)
Not much has changed there right enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know what he is talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know what he is talking about.
I don't???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
As was everyone I believe. But then people take what they want out of what is posted on here. Isn't that correct? ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
you think?  Or your daddy thinks?  Is that who's carrying stories???    I've always supported my county and if you go back I've always expected them to be doing better than they have been.  But always supported them.  Don't care who is manager. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
As was everyone I believe. But then people take what they want out of what is posted on here. Isn't that correct? ;)

Exactly SIE  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
you think?  Or your daddy thinks?  Is that who's carrying stories???    I've always supported my county and if you go back I've always expected them to be doing better than they have been.  But always supported them.  Don't care who is manager.
nepotism within the upper echelons of Antrim Gaa? Never heard of the like.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 06, 2016, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 06, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 05, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 04, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
A bigger test this weekend in Mullingar - very much hope we could win convincingly rather than scrape the points - although any win is a win! This will be one of our more important games this season.

Let's hopen all the squad can make it to the ground on time  ;)
you should try and no what your talking about before trying to be smart you t**ser!!
It's fair to say we all know  what he is talking about.
"it's fair to say"  it's fair to say neither one of use have a clue what use are talking about.   It's fair to say that nag likes to put in the odd jab thinking he's being a funny boy.  Not knowing as much as he likes to let on.  Wonder will he be as smart on the 17th?

SG a little hyper sensitive there me thinks!

Thing is had the team got a result like today this time last year there would have been a different tone to the posts on here. Dress it up any way you like.

I've no doubt that the squad are working hard but I was supporting them all along not just when a club man got the top job.
you think?  Or your daddy thinks?  Is that who's carrying stories???    I've always supported my county and if you go back I've always expected them to be doing better than they have been.  But always supported them.  Don't care who is manager.
nepotism within the upper echelons of Antrim Gaa? Never heard of the like.  :-X
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 07, 2016, 09:26:50 AM
Did I just read in the irish news that Liam Watson hurled centre half back against Westmeath?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Poor result alright,  first test. First fail.  Carlow put up an almighty score against Derry.  Certainly won't be as easy as many predicted.

I thought we would be closer to them than Derry
We just don't go well in mulingar

Would never use that as a barometer... Be like saying Loughgiel beat NP and Cushendall beat Loughdiel so they'll win All Ireland
exactly.

I wonder if "The Chosen One" and "The Messiah" will have much to say in the press this week. 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
Sounds like a few of us were ready and waiting for the rocky waters!

Leaving aside the missing Cushendall players I'm not sure losing this fixture should be greeted as a massive shock.

Tough place to go, we're never as good away from home - and let's face it - our standard relative to other teams just isn't what it was!

Promotion was unlikely even before this result me thinks.

The management & players have changed but having top players on the pitch is again a uniquely Antrim issue - no blame apportioned anywhere in this case.
What I hope has changed - is the flow of our club season. If that is re-vitalised then I believe the county results will follow, and now is the perfect time as the county results are foreseeable anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 07, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
Jesus boys. Westmeath away was always going to be a real test. Don't jump off the bandwagon and start sniping after one defeat. Learn from it, improve and come back stronger next time. Stick with the team and management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
Sounds like a few of us were ready and waiting for the rocky waters!

Leaving aside the missing Cushendall players I'm not sure losing this fixture should be greeted as a massive shock.

Tough place to go, we're never as good away from home - and let's face it - our standard relative to other teams just isn't what it was!

Promotion was unlikely even before this result me thinks.

The management & players have changed but having top players on the pitch is again a uniquely Antrim issue - no blame apportioned anywhere in this case.
What I hope has changed - is the flow of our club season. If that is re-vitalised then I believe the county results will follow, and now is the perfect time as the county results are foreseeable anyway.

I don't like the way you're thinking if you thought promotion was unlikely.

Anything but promotion (and I'm sure I speak for many) would be a failure.

Who are these so called "top players" not playing for the County? (Aside from the Cushendall players)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 11:33:12 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:15:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
Sounds like a few of us were ready and waiting for the rocky waters!

Leaving aside the missing Cushendall players I'm not sure losing this fixture should be greeted as a massive shock.

Tough place to go, we're never as good away from home - and let's face it - our standard relative to other teams just isn't what it was!

Promotion was unlikely even before this result me thinks.

The management & players have changed but having top players on the pitch is again a uniquely Antrim issue - no blame apportioned anywhere in this case.
What I hope has changed - is the flow of our club season. If that is re-vitalised then I believe the county results will follow, and now is the perfect time as the county results are foreseeable anyway.

I don't like the way you're thinking if you thought promotion was unlikely.

Anything but promotion (and I'm sure I speak for many) would be a failure.

Who are these so called "top players" not playing for the County? (Aside from the Cushendall players)

I genuinely never thought we'd get promoted once it was pointed out we'd have to play the bottom side in 1B.
I just think Kerry / Laois having the season against higher standard teams will stick to them - and I doubt our ability to get results away from home.
Failure? Yes that's fair enough if you see it that way.
I've just resigned to acceptance that our days of top level fixtures are over.

As for players not involved this year obviously McManus & Graffin is he's not going to the county - which is why I also said I wasn't apportioning any blame. They are both quite entitled to travel or not to play - it's an amateur game. They have lives.
But from an Antrim perspective our best players will again not be on the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I know its only one defeat (but this could be the start of the decline).

As the PR man for the County Manager, please put a positive spin on things SIE.

Last year you blamed Kevin Ryan, the County Board, that the "best club team in last 25 years" had little to no county representation.

This year - No Kevin Ryan, new County Board, as many Loughgiel players as you want - a manager that "actually knows the players".

Can you offer any positivity here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 07, 2016, 11:56:54 AM
I dont think anyone is shocked we lost yday, i know i wasnt. We were poor against Derry and conceded far far to much against an average Kildare side. This game was always going to be a big test for us to see where we were. We def are not going to go up with any sort of ease from this league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I know its only one defeat (but this could be the start of the decline).

As the PR man for the County Manager, please put a positive spin on things SIE.

Last year you blamed Kevin Ryan, the County Board, that the "best club team in last 25 years" had little to no county representation.

This year - No Kevin Ryan, new County Board, as many Loughgiel players as you want - a manager that "actually knows the players".

Can you offer any positivity here?
We were beaten by 17 points by westmeath with a full contingent of Ryan's squad last year. We were beaten by 7 points on Sunday without the dall men, shorty, Johnston, Mckiernan , T McCloskey, D Hamill, S Beattie. Mcguinness coming back from injury. All in all its a major improvement on the shambles of the previous few years considering there are currently about 7/8 starters unavailable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I know its only one defeat (but this could be the start of the decline).

As the PR man for the County Manager, please put a positive spin on things SIE.

Last year you blamed Kevin Ryan, the County Board, that the "best club team in last 25 years" had little to no county representation.

This year - No Kevin Ryan, new County Board, as many Loughgiel players as you want - a manager that "actually knows the players".

Can you offer any positivity here?
We were beaten by 17 points by westmeath with a full contingent of Ryan's squad last year. We were beaten by 7 points on Sunday without the dall men, shorty, Johnston, Mckiernan , T McCloskey, D Hamill, S Beattie. Mcguinness coming back from injury. All in all its a major improvement on the shambles of the previous few years considering there are currently about 7/8 starters unavailable.

So scoring 5 points from play against a side that Derry ran to 4 points is progress
Ok your the expert
I know one thing Imm not blaming the management as they are trying their best as was KR
You got all your wishes for the county set up and I don't see much difference
Your one bitter lad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I know its only one defeat (but this could be the start of the decline).

As the PR man for the County Manager, please put a positive spin on things SIE.

Last year you blamed Kevin Ryan, the County Board, that the "best club team in last 25 years" had little to no county representation.

This year - No Kevin Ryan, new County Board, as many Loughgiel players as you want - a manager that "actually knows the players".

Can you offer any positivity here?
We were beaten by 17 points by westmeath with a full contingent of Ryan's squad last year. We were beaten by 7 points on Sunday without the dall men, shorty, Johnston, Mckiernan , T McCloskey, D Hamill, S Beattie. Mcguinness coming back from injury. All in all its a major improvement on the shambles of the previous few years considering there are currently about 7/8 starters unavailable.

So scoring 5 points from play against a side that Derry ran to 4 points is progress
Ok your the expert
I know one thing Imm not blaming the management as they are trying their best as was KR
You got all your wishes for the county set up and I don't see much difference
Your one bitter lad
*You're

I'm bitter? Hilarious coming from you. Of course you're totally ignoring the unavailability of players to put across your blinkered view. A 7 point defeat is much better than a 17 point defeat. Would you not concur?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 07, 2016, 12:48:42 PM
A defeat is a defeat all in all.  My biggest gripe with KR was the way he went about things.  His lack of respect for the hurling teams in Antrim.  He'd very rarely go to club games.  He'd very rarely have changed up his panel from the start.  It was the same old same old with him.  Lack of respect for club teams.   Now yesterday was the first bad result of the year. And we see who wants what on here already.   Nearly delighted at the result. I was talking to two county hurlers on Saturday outside my own club who said it was " a massive game and a very very hard place to go"  one lad also went on to say that the team as a whole was a lot weaker than what they played them with last year, no graffin shorty or mc manus.  Jesus lads. That in its self is a valid reason.   Arguably the 3 best in the county.   Don't all go nuts after one game.     No1 said it would be easy.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 07, 2016, 12:48:52 PM
These arguments sound familiar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 07, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I know its only one defeat (but this could be the start of the decline).

As the PR man for the County Manager, please put a positive spin on things SIE.

Last year you blamed Kevin Ryan, the County Board, that the "best club team in last 25 years" had little to no county representation.

This year - No Kevin Ryan, new County Board, as many Loughgiel players as you want - a manager that "actually knows the players".

Can you offer any positivity here?
We were beaten by 17 points by westmeath with a full contingent of Ryan's squad last year. We were beaten by 7 points on Sunday without the dall men, shorty, Johnston, Mckiernan , T McCloskey, D Hamill, S Beattie. Mcguinness coming back from injury. All in all its a major improvement on the shambles of the previous few years considering there are currently about 7/8 starters unavailable.

So scoring 5 points from play against a side that Derry ran to 4 points is progress
Ok your the expert
I know one thing Imm not blaming the management as they are trying their best as was KR
You got all your wishes for the county set up and I don't see much difference
Your one bitter lad
*You're

I'm bitter? Hilarious coming from you. Of course you're totally ignoring the unavailability of players to put across your blinkered view. A 7 point defeat is much better than a 17 point defeat. Would you not concur?

Going to have a field day with you over the next few months!

That was the positive spin I was looking for.

To be continued.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 12:53:28 PM
Just posting what I'm seeing. Like always.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Weste on March 07, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
If we can beat carlow and london, then we should have another shot at westmeath in the promotion final. Would the cushendall ones be back for that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 07, 2016, 12:56:27 PM
Yesterday's result changes nothing.  We'll still end up in the 2A final agains Westmeath.  Up to PJ and the players now to improve on that 7 point margin beforehand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
What SIE & Sleeping Giant fail to remember is that they consistently criticised the management & some players last year...and one player in particular. Posters on here won't forget that.

Anyway it was a disappointing result yesterday. I thought Antrim would win to be honest. Some of the players named by SIE as missing wouldn't make the slightest of differences yesterday. Hopefully we can recover quickly for the last couple of matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 01:07:45 PM
I would concour that constant lambasting of the previous  management is all your interested in talking about
To say you are bitter is an understatement
I think I speak for most posters on here when I say
" change the record" because we are sick of it
You now have the management and players you have said would be better
For the sake of Antrim I hope your right but I have my reservations if the end result will be any different
One of our most prolific forwards v Kildare decided to play 90 minutes of soccer on Saturday and got the hook at half time yesterday
Not a big shock as this lack of commitment is typical and a bigger problem than this years or last years management 


Most posters on here have the same good will for our county last year as we have this year
I don't think this post will have any influence on the personal pathetic crusade you have committed yourself to but as I said in the past every time your begrudged little irrelevant now snippets appear I feel obliged to respond
So go ahead knock yourself out



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
All I'd say to that is give the manager time to change things. He's been there barely 5 months, not three years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: Weste on March 07, 2016, 12:54:29 PM
If we can beat carlow and london, then we should have another shot at westmeath in the promotion final. Would the cushendall ones be back for that?

That's the only topic for discussion and I would like to know that myself
The dall lads might want a rest which is fair enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2016, 01:16:33 PM
In hurling its quite easy for a 7 point win one day to be a 7 point defeat the next.

AFAICS PJ and the Antrim players aren't the focus of the sniping going on here. People are enjoying getting back at the sniping that took place last year from certain quarters.... whats good for the goose is good for the gander . Lots of folk last year saying that our performance level wasn't going to change drastically with a new manager and a few personnel changes. Its panning out that way. Regardless though, I'm sure everyone who considers himself an Antrim man wants the best for PJ and his team and will support their efforts. Important game this Sunday. Hope a crowd shows up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 07, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2016, 01:16:33 PM
In hurling its quite easy for a 7 point win one day to be a 7 point defeat the next.

AFAICS PJ and the Antrim players aren't the focus of the sniping going on here. People are enjoying getting back at the sniping that took place last year from certain quarters.... whats good for the goose is good for the gander . Lots of folk last year saying that our performance level wasn't going to change drastically with a new manager and a few personnel changes. Its panning out that way. Regardless though, I'm sure everyone who considers himself an Antrim man wants the best for PJ and his team and will support their efforts. Important game this Sunday. Hope a crowd shows up.
I'll be at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 07, 2016, 02:06:30 PM
likewise but could someone please explain why we havent a double header with the football? could the powers that be not of moved them two games together to get a bigger support for the teams this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 07, 2016, 02:29:22 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 07, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
What SIE & Sleeping Giant fail to remember is that they consistently criticised the management & some players last year...and one player in particular. Posters on here won't forget that.

Anyway it was a disappointing result yesterday. I thought Antrim would win to be honest. Some of the players named by SIE as missing wouldn't make the slightest of differences yesterday. Hopefully we can recover quickly for the last couple of matches.
I fail to remember nothing.  I know what I said and stand by everything I said.   So we've lost one game.  Let's get the tar and feathers out for pj and his team.  The other clown was there for over 3 years.  And fucked up on countless occasions.    Didn't select the best players available and let a player rule the roust.   Pj has went out and got the best players that have made themselves available for selection.  And looses one game and you wanna start and play this game.   Fool!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Kevin Ryan couldn't make Antrim work. Reasons well documented here hundreds of times. PJ a popular choice. Got 95% of the counties best hurlers to choose from. Everyone does want to see him to well and no one here has said anything other than that.

Let's hope he can pull this round. If he can't then it is looking more and more obvious that maybe it's not all so much to do with the managers at all - but whether or not we have 20 plus players good enough. I mean there's no point in believing if we just has two more players available we would suddenly be top five or six in the country. At the minute we sit outside the top twelve. It's been that way for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 02:44:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2016, 02:06:30 PM
likewise but could someone please explain why we havent a double header with the football? could the powers that be not of moved them two games together to get a bigger support for the teams this weekend.

Absolutely baffling!
Does our Saffron Vision or our new found refreshing vibrancy not stretch this far?

Perhaps our officialdom might put forward the idea of a pitch not being in condition for taking two games - I'm only guessing?
One game on each pitch at Ballycastle not solve that?

This really is an opportunity which I don't think any other county would miss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 02:45:57 PM
Kerry had a double header on Sunday, the first game was shit and so was the second!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2016, 02:50:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 02:45:57 PM
Kerry had a double header on Sunday, the first game was shit and so was the second!!

Didn't think the Cork Dublin double header worked overly well either. But I would be one for trying it and seeing how it works in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 02:45:57 PM
Kerry had a double header on Sunday, the first game was shit and so was the second!!

If that was Tyrone behaving like the Kerry lads did v Donegal there would be demands for ccc involvement and bad press galore
Not a bat in the southern papers about it
Unreal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 07, 2016, 02:52:47 PM
Footballers got two good wins at Corrigan and just getting the feel of the place. No way they`re going anywhere. You go where you like btdtgtt!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 07, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Lads lads lads enough of this constant nonsense with managers and players etc etc. If we had every single player available to us and Brian Cody (inc backroom team) we would still be in the division we are currently in. I am sick to the back teeth with our supporters having this arrogant feeling that we are better than what we are currently. Catch a grip of yourselves, we all need to take a reality check. It's going to take a good number of years of consistent incremental improvements before we finally get back up to 1b never mind 1a.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 07, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Lads lads lads enough of this constant nonsense with managers and players etc etc. If we had every single player available to us and Brian Cody (inc backroom team) we would still be in the division we are currently in. I am sick to the back teeth with our supporters having this arrogant feeling that we are better than what we are currently. Catch a grip of yourselves, we all need to take a reality check. It's going to take a good number of years of consistent incremental improvements before we finally get back up to 1b never mind 1a.

I do believe I and others said our division is a fair reflection of our standing.
And on that see this article - resonates with what I've been saying about Antrim hurling:
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0307/773267-landers/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 07, 2016, 02:52:47 PM
Footballers got two good wins at Corrigan and just getting the feel of the place. No way they`re going anywhere. You go where you like btdtgtt!

Thanks bannside.
Either way it's Walsh park for me this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 07, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Lads lads lads enough of this constant nonsense with managers and players etc etc. If we had every single player available to us and Brian Cody (inc backroom team) we would still be in the division we are currently in. I am sick to the back teeth with our supporters having this arrogant feeling that we are better than what we are currently. Catch a grip of yourselves, we all need to take a reality check. It's going to take a good number of years of consistent incremental improvements before we finally get back up to 1b never mind 1a.

I do believe I and others said our division is a fair reflection of our standing.
And on that see this article - resonates with what I've been saying about Antrim hurling:
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0307/773267-landers/

Very intresting and worth some contemplation in relation to club hurling structures
But antrims club scene on the national stage seems to be in rude Heath compared to corks when we consider what LG have achieved recently and hopefully Cushendall shortly
Do you honestly think if Kilkenny switched to a knock out format that there county standards would demote them to division 2 hurling
A point just as relevant in the article is the lack of work at minor and u21
When we can't get our u21 players to train for an all Ireland after breezing through Ulster it would suggest there are other forces at play here other than our club championship formats
But Imm up for more club games for sure
I just don't know for instance if Saul and Clark playing more club games is ever going to prepare them for a Cahal Barrett or noel Connors
It's a completely different arena
But there maybe is  substance to the argument I don't know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
I'm not saying it's kingston's thoughts should be lifted and mirrored in Antrim but the general thesis is entirely the same - that is, that the lack of a comprehensive club scene has had a detrimental effect on the county side.
Whilst you might say more club games don't necessarily prepare Saul or Clarke - think of how many hurlers in the county it will benefit?
We raise the general playing standard - and that is what helps improve each and every player.
After all - what's to lose? The past load of years of limited consistency in club season has hardly brought benefits!
If I could bring one thing that would improve Antrim hurling - it wouldn't be Brian Cody - it would be years on end of a comprehensive and meaningful club scene. Ultimately that's what would broader our playing base and increase standards.

Another thought - I'm don't disagree about our club teams "in rude health" in the all Ireland stage - but consider this;
1) if the Antrim champions has to battle through the Leinster or Munster championship would we have seen as many st Patrick's days as we have?
2) although some clubs have made it to the big day - do we have as broad a range of clubs who can win our championship as other top counties?

Just thoughts. I'm not making and statements or judgements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 07, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
I'm not saying it's kingston's thoughts should be lifted and mirrored in Antrim but the general thesis is entirely the same - that is, that the lack of a comprehensive club scene has had a detrimental effect on the county side.
Whilst you might say more club games don't necessarily prepare Saul or Clarke - think of how many hurlers in the county it will benefit?
We raise the general playing standard - and that is what helps improve each and every player.
After all - what's to lose? The past load of years of limited consistency in club season has hardly brought benefits!
If I could bring one thing that would improve Antrim hurling - it wouldn't be Brian Cody - it would be years on end of a comprehensive and meaningful club scene. Ultimately that's what would broader our playing base and increase standards.

Another thought - I'm don't disagree about our club teams "in rude health" in the all Ireland stage - but consider this;
1) if the Antrim champions has to battle through the Leinster or Munster championship would we have seen as many st Patrick's days as we have?
2) although some clubs have made it to the big day - do we have as broad a range of clubs who can win our championship as other top counties?

Just thoughts. I'm not making and statements or judgements.

These few lines above are exactly what we need, well said. That would be the basis for everything else that could follow at county level. Long term plans/goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
I'm not saying it's kingston's thoughts should be lifted and mirrored in Antrim but the general thesis is entirely the same - that is, that the lack of a comprehensive club scene has had a detrimental effect on the county side.
Whilst you might say more club games don't necessarily prepare Saul or Clarke - think of how many hurlers in the county it will benefit?
We raise the general playing standard - and that is what helps improve each and every player.
After all - what's to lose? The past load of years of limited consistency in club season has hardly brought benefits!
If I could bring one thing that would improve Antrim hurling - it wouldn't be Brian Cody - it would be years on end of a comprehensive and meaningful club scene. Ultimately that's what would broader our playing base and increase standards.

Another thought - I'm don't disagree about our club teams "in rude health" in the all Ireland stage - but consider this;
1) if the Antrim champions has to battle through the Leinster or Munster championship would we have seen as many st Patrick's days as we have?
2) although some clubs have made it to the big day - do we have as broad a range of clubs who can win our championship as other top counties?

Just thoughts. I'm not making and statements or judgements.

Would the other teams breeze through teams like Ballycastle, Loughgiel and Cushendall should they play in the Antrim championships? The semi finals allow those 'big' teams to beat the minnows from Antrim... The Dunloy team of the 90's and the Ballycastle teams of the 80's should have won the big one... Loughgiel have won it twice  and finally the Dall are 60 minutes from doing the same thing after beating the Galway championships ... I think the range of clubs are small compared to some counties but that's the way it is when you have clubs focusing on one code
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 11:09:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
I'm not saying it's kingston's thoughts should be lifted and mirrored in Antrim but the general thesis is entirely the same - that is, that the lack of a comprehensive club scene has had a detrimental effect on the county side.
Whilst you might say more club games don't necessarily prepare Saul or Clarke - think of how many hurlers in the county it will benefit?
We raise the general playing standard - and that is what helps improve each and every player.
After all - what's to lose? The past load of years of limited consistency in club season has hardly brought benefits!
If I could bring one thing that would improve Antrim hurling - it wouldn't be Brian Cody - it would be years on end of a comprehensive and meaningful club scene. Ultimately that's what would broader our playing base and increase standards.

Another thought - I'm don't disagree about our club teams "in rude health" in the all Ireland stage - but consider this;
1) if the Antrim champions has to battle through the Leinster or Munster championship would we have seen as many st Patrick's days as we have?
2) although some clubs have made it to the big day - do we have as broad a range of clubs who can win our championship as other top counties?

Just thoughts. I'm not making and statements or judgements.

I amnot arguing your mindset at all
A healthier club scene is always going to help the county scene
but it's like arguing about the chicken and the egg
When birr was successful so was Offaly
When sixmimebridge was winning so was Clare
And the most relevant in this discussion
When Newtown shandrum where winning so was cork with same club format as they have now
Now let's take some of them clubs now Imam sure any of our top four clubs would give them there fill if not beat them
Personally I don't know if changing the club format would have as much impact as getting some funding and get every kid in Belfast a hurl and good coaches as well as other areas in Antrim with some resources that could be utilised
And a huge effort in underage development squads
I think the north Antrim underage development and I be leave there is one now around the city is a great step In the right direction

Getting back to the place where it all matters the club scene
I think we need more clubs being competitive hence more underage work there
As bad as things look I have nothing but utter respect for anyone who helps kids at there club but there needs to be more of them
The county situation is what is But one thing I like about PJ is his utter belief that we have good hurlers or we wouldn't be doing what we are doing at club level
We just don't have enough good players and some of them feel it's not worth the hassle
You could even argue that there is nothing wrong at all with Antrim hurling we just punch above our weight sometimes and when we come back down we are all depressed

It's an old chestnut that has been debated for ages and I think there is more than one problem here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 11:34:46 PM
We've done every format there is.. Groups, round robin, and knockout.... Knockout allows the shocks .... Round robins allow the better teams another go... Groups allow the better teams to get more points....9 times out of ten its the same semi finals....

Belfast teams need to improve, and not be just near misses each year..... They gotta be consistent and not just at juvenile level..... The progress the likes of Creggan has made in such a small period is huge... Sustaining that will be an even bigger achievement..... Clooney gales also...St Johns and Rossa (main Belfast clubs) threaten to bring their kids up to winning at senior but fail each time , and so goes that great batch of juveniles.... Something needs changing so that 5/6 teams are capable of winning each year, what that is, is the millions dollar question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 11:34:46 PM
We've done every format there is.. Groups, round robin, and knockout.... Knockout allows the shocks .... Round robins allow the better teams another go... Groups allow the better teams to get more points....9 times out of ten its the same semi finals....

Belfast teams need to improve, and not be just near misses each year..... They gotta be consistent and not just at juvenile level..... The progress the likes of Creggan has made in such a small period is huge... Sustaining that will be an even bigger achievement..... Clooney gales also...St Johns and Rossa (main Belfast clubs) threaten to bring their kids up to winning at senior but fail each time , and so goes that great batch of juveniles.... Something needs changing so that 5/6 teams are capable of winning each year, what that is, is the millions dollar question

St. John's came within a whisper of beating the dall. There not that far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2016, 07:48:30 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2016, 11:56:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2016, 11:34:46 PM
We've done every format there is.. Groups, round robin, and knockout.... Knockout allows the shocks .... Round robins allow the better teams another go... Groups allow the better teams to get more points....9 times out of ten its the same semi finals....

Belfast teams need to improve, and not be just near misses each year..... They gotta be consistent and not just at juvenile level..... The progress the likes of Creggan has made in such a small period is huge... Sustaining that will be an even bigger achievement..... Clooney gales also...St Johns and Rossa (main Belfast clubs) threaten to bring their kids up to winning at senior but fail each time , and so goes that great batch of juveniles.... Something needs changing so that 5/6 teams are capable of winning each year, what that is, is the millions dollar question

St. John's came within a whisper of beating the dall. There not that far away

Every team in Belfast can say they were a whisker away from beating some team..... They were stuffed the year before against Loughgiel.... Consistency is the key.. Not near misses..... Cushendall beat us in injury time a few years ago.... We haven't got to that level again.... When the Johnnies win it then I'll be convinced they have improved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
All great valid posts and none necessarily in disagreement.
Agree totally with MR2 on the city clubs - near misses are no good and neither is juvenile succes - it's about consistently performing & wining at senior level.
In terms of the more comprehensive club scene - personally I think it's not just the structure - it's about regular fixtures, full teams available.
Although I did say before I advocate the league being finished prior to championship - so seeding used to determine championship draw in that same year. This makes the league more immediately relevant.
And I agree our top clubs fully deserve their returns - but would maybe our 4th / 5th best club compete with the 4/5th best club in major counties? That's how we'll test the depth of our resources - and when that's the case then ultimately our county team will benefit also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 08, 2016, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
All great valid posts and none necessarily in disagreement.
Agree totally with MR2 on the city clubs - near misses are no good and neither is juvenile succes - it's about consistently performing & wining at senior level.
In terms of the more comprehensive club scene - personally I think it's not just the structure - it's about regular fixtures, full teams available.
Although I did say before I advocate the league being finished prior to championship - so seeding used to determine championship draw in that same year. This makes the league more immediately relevant.
And I agree our top clubs fully deserve their returns - but would maybe our 4th / 5th best club compete with the 4/5th best club in major counties? That's how we'll test the depth of our resources - and when that's the case then ultimately our county team will benefit also!

btdtgtt

For once I would be in agreement, the leagues should be used as an incentive for the championship, there is no other way really of making sure there are no dead rubbers.

We dont have the depth of teams currently for a competitive champions league type structure for championship.

What we need is a vibrant club scene with competitive matches during the best hurling months of the year, in the lead up to the championship.

Each game therefore would have meaning, either trying to be seeded in the top four or having home advantage for the opening game, what ever way it is used, it is vital to get all the club teams playing 10 plus hard tough games during the season. Would St Johns be a tougher prospect in the championship if they were playing in Corrigan for example?

Not looking back with rose tinted glasses but if we can get back to a place where a Sunday during the summer months means good quality hurling games all over the county. We could then get to a place where we start to build other things around regular Sunday hurling, juvenile games prior to the main games, go games at half time, fund raising activities for the clubs hosting. Maybe those days are gone but I for one would like to get back to something akin to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 08, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
This Sunday is the big one.  I'd say it's winner takes all. It's fallen nicely for us being at home. I think we can win this Sunday and make it to the final as I don't think London will trouble us that much. Being the optimist I think we'll beat Westmeath in the 2A final.  Plenty of room for improvement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.

Johnney give me the heads up on the Mayo game!! I'd a 7 timer waiting on you fecks lol!!! Mayo????? FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.

Johnney give me the heads up on the Mayo game!! I'd a 7 timer waiting on you fecks lol!!! Mayo????? FFS

I think we missed enough to win two games even with the man down, wasn't at it, but talking to a few who were and the wide count seemed to be an issue, that and the referee gifting Mayo easy frees with the Down lads having to get decapitated to win theirs, that old chestnut..
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on March 10, 2016, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.

Johnney give me the heads up on the Mayo game!! I'd a 7 timer waiting on you fecks lol!!! Mayo????? FFS

I think we missed enough to win two games even with the man down, wasn't at it, but talking to a few who were and the wide count seemed to be an issue, that and the referee gifting Mayo easy frees with the Down lads having to get decapitated to win theirs, that old chestnut..
::)

Who was the ref Johnnycool?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 10, 2016, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: doodaa on March 10, 2016, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.

Johnney give me the heads up on the Mayo game!! I'd a 7 timer waiting on you fecks lol!!! Mayo????? FFS

I think we missed enough to win two games even with the man down, wasn't at it, but talking to a few who were and the wide count seemed to be an issue, that and the referee gifting Mayo easy frees with the Down lads having to get decapitated to win theirs, that old chestnut..
::)

Who was the ref Johnnycool?

Some lad from Louth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2016, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 10, 2016, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: doodaa on March 10, 2016, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Not often we say that But Couldn't agree more NAG!  ;) ;D
The picture of regular Sunday afternoons with full blooded senior games - maybe preceded by the same two clubs playing an underage game - put it week in week and year on year - just watch the standard and interest in hurling improve!

The extended intercounty calendar, (granted you aren't in the Leinster round robin and qualifiers this year) has put paid to that and dates for Sunday fixtures are scarce enough for administrators, but this year the Christy Ring games are on saturdays, so in theory the clubs will have their full contingent, albeit the intercounty hurlers will be playing two games in two days.

Johnney give me the heads up on the Mayo game!! I'd a 7 timer waiting on you fecks lol!!! Mayo????? FFS

I think we missed enough to win two games even with the man down, wasn't at it, but talking to a few who were and the wide count seemed to be an issue, that and the referee gifting Mayo easy frees with the Down lads having to get decapitated to win theirs, that old chestnut..
::)

Who was the ref Johnnycool?

Some lad from Louth.

Black hair, tattoo on arm?? If same one he's not a bad lad... But hey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 11, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
Nice jersey this year hardstation!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 12, 2016, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2016, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 11, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
Nice jersey this year hardstation!
Yeah, great way to mark our centenary year.
I just seen it on twitter there. Grand geansai altogether.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2016, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 11, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
Nice jersey this year hardstation!
Yeah, great way to mark our centenary year.

We marked ours by winning the All Ireland  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2016, 06:04:17 PM
Great win for St Louis today in the Paddy Buggy Semi Final today down in DCU. They put in a really solid committed display

Tweet from the CAP - Not sure if it was Curley/Paddy or Dylan who took it - Some take all the same  ;D .... Oh and well done to James McNaughton for setting it up for them  :P
https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/708696490739441664 (https://twitter.com/AntrimPost/status/708696490739441664)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 12, 2016, 07:31:10 PM
Westmeath won today again as expected. Antrim should do the business tomorrow. Glad to see Neal McAuley moving upfield a bit gives us a little bit more moving forward and a very capable player replacing him in full back in Tony McCloskey. Would like to see Saul starting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 12, 2016, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 12, 2016, 07:31:10 PM
Westmeath won today again as expected. Antrim should do the business tomorrow. Glad to see Neal McAuley moving upfield a bit gives us a little bit more moving forward and a very capable player replacing him in full back in Tony McCloskey. Would like to see Saul starting.

McCloskey 3 and McAuley 6 every day for me - at least until the Dall boys come back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 13, 2016, 01:36:07 PM
33 minutes played

Antrim 0 -5 Carlow 1 - 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 13, 2016, 01:39:31 PM
Half time

Antrim 0-6 Carlow 1-12. Antrim down to 14 players man sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 02:17:43 PM
1-9 to 1-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 13, 2016, 02:30:13 PM
Antrim 1-10 Carlow 1-16 Antrim with a 2nd player sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 02:30:48 PM
 1-10 to 1-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 02:31:34 PM
1-11 to 1-17 ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 02:32:42 PM
I just heard that London beat Derry.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 13, 2016, 02:33:26 PM
Hope Cushendall give Antrim hurling a boost Thursday. Hard luck Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 02:56:56 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2016, 03:04:07 PM
Prob the worst performance I've seen in a Lin time following Antrim. Utter garbage all over the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on March 13, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
come back Kevin Ryan!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
Underage games only for me this weekend.
Can't wait to see the highlights from Galway & tipp game.
As for Antrim - I'm starting to wonder if I was a cushendall man coming off a long season through winter - does it look like there's anything to rush back to Antrim for? Poor poor result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 13, 2016, 03:40:30 PM
That performance was pathetic. Where is this county going?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 13, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on March 13, 2016, 03:27:53 PM
come back Kevin Ryan!!!!
plough the fields. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 13, 2016, 03:55:02 PM
Absolutely terrible. That should have been a home win.  Haven't seen the table yet can we still finish top 2 with a win v London?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 13, 2016, 04:11:18 PM
Its the lack of teamplay and basic stickwork that I cant understand. I couldn't see anything that looked like a style of play. I saw 15 individuals lacking belief in each other. Tough times
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 13, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
We need to win and Westmeath to beat Carlow in Carlow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 07:04:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Comical Ali
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Ach now SiE!
Let's just say you weren't so quick to offer mitigating circumstances to the previous managers loss to Carlow!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2016, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)
Matthew 7:15  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 07:04:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Comical Ali
You don't do original. Do you?   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on March 13, 2016, 07:16:47 PM
Not certain of the tie breaker, but think Carlow have head to head advantage so say we beat London (a massive IF) and Westmeath won, we  would be level on 6 with Carlow who have the tie breaker. Think scoring advantage only comes into it if more than 2 teams on same points.
We have lost to two MacCarthy teams in last two games. We aren't MacCarthy standard. Big reality check last two games, Westmeath and Carlow are better than us, as they have proven in last few times have played both.
We are just not good enough, horrible to admit but that is the case
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2016, 07:13:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)
Matthew 7:15  ;)
I'm not a brainwashed sheep.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Ach now SiE!
Let's just say you weren't so quick to offer mitigating circumstances to the previous managers loss to Carlow!
The circumstances are different though.  The previous manager had all the players available he selected. We're still short the Cushendall fellas. Plus injuries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Ach now SiE!
Let's just say you weren't so quick to offer mitigating circumstances to the previous managers loss to Carlow!
The circumstances are different though.  The previous manager had all the players available he selected. We're still short the Cushendall fellas. Plus injuries.

Every team has injuries. So it's basically as long as we don't get beat by as many as Ryan did we will be grand ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Ach now SiE!
Let's just say you weren't so quick to offer mitigating circumstances to the previous managers loss to Carlow!
The circumstances are different though.  The previous manager had all the players available he selected. We're still short the Cushendall fellas. Plus injuries.

Every team has injuries. So it's basically as long as we don't get beat by as many as Ryan did we will be grand ?
steady improvement. Yes. Early days. Let's see after three years if he's only won 1 league game. Oh wait. ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 07:28:37 PM
That's was bad today no other words for it
As bad is I have seen them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2016, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 13, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
The performance could have been better. No doubt.  Being down to 13 men doesn't help. The unavailability of half the starting team doesn't help. Playing against a strong breeze in the first half doesn't help,  Especially with 14 men. We were beat last May by 10 points by carlow with the manager's full squad. Just saying.  ;)

Ach now SiE!
Let's just say you weren't so quick to offer mitigating circumstances to the previous managers loss to Carlow!
The circumstances are different though.  The previous manager had all the players available he selected. We're still short the Cushendall fellas. Plus injuries.

Every team has injuries. So it's basically as long as we don't get beat by as many as Ryan did we will be grand ?
steady improvement. Yes. Early days. Let's see after three years if he's only won 1 league game. Oh wait. ....

Don't want to get into anew argument over this again at this early stage. My issue is that KR was lambasted for different things throughout his tenure a few of them are being repeated in this set up.

Also when a new manager comes in I would expect to see the bounce effect with new confidence from that. As well I would expect to see a clear route of direction for the team systems and style of play. None of these are evident and while it is early days if there isn't that in place from the outset it is hard to see how it comes mid way through.

Fact is we are at our level currently and adding a few numbers to the team when paddy's day is over isn't going to change that significantly.

It seems knowing the players wasn't the advantage that it was touted to be over the winter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Five months is a terribly short time to expect miracles all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 13, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
Folks move from the Kevin- PJ storey, today we had good enough players to at least complete, and we didn't come close to it, and that comes down mainly to the players but also the management don't seem to installed and passion and more worryingly any plan. Any word of any Creggan players joining up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 13, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
Folks move from the Kevin- PJ storey, today we had good enough players to at least complete, and we didn't come close to it, and that comes down mainly to the players but also the management don't seem to installed and passion and more worryingly any plan. Any word of any Creggan players joining up?
I believe everyone who is turning up will be there at the end of the month. Refreshingly, it isn't a closed shop though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2016, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Five months is a terribly short time to expect miracles all the same.
I don't think beating Westmeath or Carlow (at home) falls into "miracle" territory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 08:48:45 PM
Nag and hands up are bang on the money
There is no system at all
Hurling as individuals and a few lads not up to it
at least 6 to 7 players out  there today where struggling at this level
SIE only one thing to explain your circumstances at the minute
" karma,s a bitch"
We where bad today and very dissapointing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:49:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2016, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Five months is a terribly short time to expect miracles all the same.
I don't think beating Westmeath or Carlow (at home) falls into "miracle" territory.
I agree. But sure we didn't beat them last year,in fact we were beaten by far bigger scores,with a three year set up.  No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 08:48:45 PM
Nag and hands up are bang on the money
There is no system at all
Hurling as individuals and a few lads not up to it
at least 6 to 7 players out  there today where struggling at this level
SIE only one thing to explain your circumstances at the minute
" karma,s a bitch"
We where bad today and very dissapointing
no. You get your dig in at me when you can lad. I summed you up quite a while ago.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Sie you are getting really tiresome here. If we get beat no one can say anything on it or you just turn it into a self perceived bashing of your club / clubmate.

Last year everything was kevin ryan.

Really really tiresome and any discussion at all turns into a farce.

Are you capable of constructive, or otherwise, output on the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 08:58:40 PM
Nothing to do with digging, your on hear tonight saying our results are better this year compared to last year etc
Your fixation with berating a management that is gone now continues so then so will I
The player you have been telling us woukd make the difference and defended at every turn ( to the depriment of other people) is there now and his impact is very limited
The player you constantly lambasted and even accused of running the show is gone now
your modus operandi is now a reality and after the last two games other posters opinion on your delusions are now being realised
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Sie you are getting really tiresome here. If we get beat no one can say anything on it or you just turn it into a self perceived bashing of your club / clubmate.

Last year everything was kevin ryan.

Really really tiresome and any discussion at all turns into a farce.

Are you capable of constructive, or otherwise, output on the game?
Yes. I agree there's a lot of improvement needed. I've said that. The current management are there barely 5 months. They took over a shambolic regime that left a huge chasm. Not only at county level but within the players at club level. Unprecedented distrust. Player power. Negative board influence (intended 😉)  It was all there. Anything, anyone was better than that.

And for your information where have I mentioned Loughgiel in this year????  You're another one, like the hound ,who would have delusions of knowing what I think. That's a problem you have. Not me.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 08:58:40 PM
Nothing to do with digging, your on hear tonight saying our results are better this year compared to last year etc
Your fixation with berating a management that is gone now continues so then so will I
The player you have been telling us woukd make the difference and defended at every turn ( to the depriment of other people) is there now and his impact is very limited
The player you constantly lambasted and even accused of running the show is gone now
your modus operandi is now a reality and after the last two games other posters opinion on your delusions are now being realised
is that the player I haven't mentioned in at least 18 months? You really need to move on and forget about me lad.  ;)

By the way, I never lambasted his ability. Just his influence on team  and squad selection. Again, move on.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 09:11:07 PM
You are telling other people to move on.. Jesus wept
I think you need some help from someone qualified for the sort of condition you have
Just sit on the chair and let it all out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 09:11:07 PM
You are telling other people to move on.. Jesus wept
I think you need some help from someone qualified for the sort of condition you have
Just sit on the chair and let it all out
hilarious.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Sie you are getting really tiresome here. If we get beat no one can say anything on it or you just turn it into a self perceived bashing of your club / clubmate.

Last year everything was kevin ryan.

Really really tiresome and any discussion at all turns into a farce.

Are you capable of constructive, or otherwise, output on the game?
Yes. I agree there's a lot of improvement needed. I've said that. The current management are there barely 5 months. They took over a shambolic regime that left a huge chasm. Not only at county level but within the players at club level. Unprecedented distrust. Player power. Negative board influence (intended 😉)  It was all there. Anything, anyone was better than that.

And for your information where have I mentioned Loughgiel in this year????  You're another one, like the hound ,who would have delusions of knowing what I think. That's a problem you have. Not me.  ;)

Sie i think you are the only one with delusions.

I couldn't care less what you think. I'd just rather read a report on a game I wasn't at rather than any criticism on a terrible result being turned into a club spat meaning that i can get nothing useful or interesting from any comments here at all.

That problem is not me. Go back through the posts after this game and let me know where I'm wrong. I do not know anything about you but your maturity levels are that of a teenager and your last couple of posts are perfect illustrations of that.

Now anyone any comments on the game today - yes the game today?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Sie you are getting really tiresome here. If we get beat no one can say anything on it or you just turn it into a self perceived bashing of your club / clubmate.

Last year everything was kevin ryan.

Really really tiresome and any discussion at all turns into a farce.

Are you capable of constructive, or otherwise, output on the game?
Yes. I agree there's a lot of improvement needed. I've said that. The current management are there barely 5 months. They took over a shambolic regime that left a huge chasm. Not only at county level but within the players at club level. Unprecedented distrust. Player power. Negative board influence (intended 😉)  It was all there. Anything, anyone was better than that.

And for your information where have I mentioned Loughgiel in this year????  You're another one, like the hound ,who would have delusions of knowing what I think. That's a problem you have. Not me.  ;)

Sie i think you are the only one with delusions.

I couldn't care less what you think. I'd just rather read a report on a game I wasn't at rather than any criticism on a terrible result being turned into a club spat meaning that i can get nothing useful or interesting from any comments here at all.

That problem is not me. Go back through the posts after this game and let me know where I'm wrong. I do not know anything about you but your maturity levels are that of a teenager and your last couple of posts are perfect illustrations of that.

Now anyone any comments on the game today - yes the game today?
where have I mentioned my club or club mate in 18 months?
Yet Again you are misrepresenting what I've actually posted.  I haven't mentioned my club as it's irrelevant.  You presume therfore you post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
Forwards not playing with any cohesion despite plenty of talent  we were down by about 6 in the first half and 3/4line are trying to make runs for goal, over running the ball with men with better pace behind them forcing them into closed channels. Carlow turned these and stuck them over from the middle of the park. Bag full of wides too

Was late in so never seen mcfalls first card and by chance missed the second so can't comment, Neal's sending off was too late in the game to make much difference.

Glad to see experimenting on the half back line thought it was a weak link in previous games certainly be solidified if mccambridge and Campbell decide to come on board.

All in all not what we wanted as has become cliched here this seems out level at the minute, Christy ring might tell us if there's any hunger in Antrim hurling cause there's none there ATM from what we've seen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
Forwards not playing with any cohesion despite plenty of talent  we were down by about 6 in the first half and 3/4line are trying to make runs for goal, over running the ball with men with better pace behind them forcing them into closed channels. Carlow turned these and stuck them over from the middle of the park. Bag full of wides too

Was late in so never seen mcfalls first card and by chance missed the second so can't comment, Neal's sending off was too late in the game to make much difference.

Glad to see experimenting on the half back line thought it was a weak link in previous games certainly be solidified if mccambridge and Campbell decide to come on board.

All in all not what we wanted as has become cliched here this seems out level at the minute, Christy ring might tell us if there's any hunger in Antrim hurling cause there's none there ATM from what we've seen
Indeed. And it won't happen overnight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
Forwards not playing with any cohesion despite plenty of talent  we were down by about 6 in the first half and 3/4line are trying to make runs for goal, over running the ball with men with better pace behind them forcing them into closed channels. Carlow turned these and stuck them over from the middle of the park. Bag full of wides too

Was late in so never seen mcfalls first card and by chance missed the second so can't comment, Neal's sending off was too late in the game to make much difference.

Glad to see experimenting on the half back line thought it was a weak link in previous games certainly be solidified if mccambridge and Campbell decide to come on board.

All in all not what we wanted as has become cliched here this seems out level at the minute, Christy ring might tell us if there's any hunger in Antrim hurling cause there's none there ATM from what we've seen
Indeed. And it won't happen overnight.

And get PJ out  :P :P :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 13, 2016, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 13, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
Forwards not playing with any cohesion despite plenty of talent  we were down by about 6 in the first half and 3/4line are trying to make runs for goal, over running the ball with men with better pace behind them forcing them into closed channels. Carlow turned these and stuck them over from the middle of the park. Bag full of wides too

Was late in so never seen mcfalls first card and by chance missed the second so can't comment, Neal's sending off was too late in the game to make much difference.

Glad to see experimenting on the half back line thought it was a weak link in previous games certainly be solidified if mccambridge and Campbell decide to come on board.

All in all not what we wanted as has become cliched here this seems out level at the minute, Christy ring might tell us if there's any hunger in Antrim hurling cause there's none there ATM from what we've seen
Indeed. And it won't happen overnight.

And get PJ out  :P :P :P
;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2016, 09:55:28 PM
Cheers Mochara. Good to read some analysis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 13, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
I thought last week was just another mulligar day
But looking at today which was a game I thought we would win hands down we are way of the pace even for div2

Just no cohesion between the players or support link up play
We just won a ball and hit it down the field
The sending of didn't help
Can someone pleases tell me
Is ripping someone's off not a sending off
Watson got his tore off him today and the player stayed on the field
For MC falls sending off I never seen the second but the first was yellow
MC auley got suckerd into a reaction but I thought it was a bit harsh to send him off
We where getting no favours but on balance Carlow where good for the points
Played more as a team
Woody struggled on their  no 11 and MC greevy had a stinker
Thought stoogie was quiet and our Ff line where cleaned out
Young Connely tried when he came on in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 14, 2016, 09:05:57 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 13, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
We need to win and Westmeath to beat Carlow in Carlow.

Unfortunately the leagues over, what your saying still doesn't work for us that'd put us level on points with Carlow but they won the head to head so they'd go through. London can still go through if they beat us and west meath beat Carlow, but its down to just WM Carlow and London now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
I think we need to set the expectations better. We are where we are. Attempts being made to improve dev squad structures, but really theres just not the right amount of interest on the game to create a fevered sustainable interest at county level. Young talented hurlers arrive at intercounty senior senior level and I'm sure the frst thing they can see is the subconscious lack of ambition. This is where we're at. We are not KK or Tipp where the passion for the game runs into the every fabric of their world. We're a narrow strata of life up here. Hurling men up here are a dedicated as anyone in any other county and we should be very proud of that. But we are killed by the number of take it or leavers or dont care at alls. With limited numbers (and that rolls into financial assistance) only so much can be achieved.

The half heartedness about us and for many years its been there so not PJs fault. Players acting the bollocks on weekends, poor attendance at training, how often do they puck a ball away from training etc?

When you compare the control of the ball Galway and Tipp had yesterday (and Carlow as well), our stickwork is way off the mark as is our ability to try to link up with each other. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
for any poor soul that was in westmeath that there yesterday was on par with it. Ill call it what it was, utter shite from start to finish. There was very few players to come out with any credit after that performance.

I was at the game in Derry and that was actually as bad as yesterday was. Theres no system of play that i can see, theres no consistency in where players are each week they start. they are being moved all over the place and theres no settled team which isnt good.

I have to be brutally honest but Liam would be better not starting for the county, hes not good enough in any of the games ive seen. I would prefer to see Saul start in the corner. Im not singling him out as theres plenty more aint up to scratch. Niall mckenna & McGreevy were completly lost at midfield, neither of them contributed anything to the game other than to let their man run amock. The only one who had a half decent game was Simon McCrorry imo.

we need to give PJ the time to do the job, hes only had 5 months which isnt enough to get the team going at all. Lets be honest currenty we are not good enough for Div 1b.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 14, 2016, 10:01:53 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
for any poor soul that was in westmeath that there yesterday was on par with it. Ill call it what it was, utter shite from start to finish. There was very few players to come out with any credit after that performance.

I was at the game in Derry and that was actually as bad as yesterday was. Theres no system of play that i can see, theres no consistency in where players are each week they start. they are being moved all over the place and theres no settled team which isnt good.

I have to be brutally honest but Liam would be better not starting for the county, hes not good enough in any of the games ive seen. I would prefer to see Saul start in the corner. Im not singling him out as theres plenty more aint up to scratch. Niall mckenna & McGreevy were completly lost at midfield, neither of them contributed anything to the game other than to let their man run amock. The only one who had a half decent game was Simon McCrorry imo.

we need to give PJ the time to do the job, hes only had 5 months which isnt enough to get the team going at all. Lets be honest currenty we are not good enough for Div 1b.

I have to say DR, I find it hard to disagree with majority of your posts. Again your are correct in what you are saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
I think we need to set the expectations better. We are where we are. Attempts being made to improve dev squad structures, but really theres just not the right amount of interest on the game to create a fevered sustainable interest at county level. Young talented hurlers arrive at intercounty senior senior level and I'm sure the frst thing they can see is the subconscious lack of ambition. This is where we're at. We are not KK or Tipp where the passion for the game runs into the every fabric of their world. We're a narrow strata of life up here. Hurling men up here are a dedicated as anyone in any other county and we should be very proud of that. But we are killed by the number of take it or leavers or dont care at alls. With limited numbers (and that rolls into financial assistance) only so much can be achieved.

The half heartedness about us and for many years its been there so not PJs fault. Players acting the bollocks on weekends, poor attendance at training, how often do they puck a ball away from training etc?

When you compare the control of the ball Galway and Tipp had yesterday (and Carlow as well), our stickwork is way off the mark as is our ability to try to link up with each other.

Can't disagree with a word of that!
DR makes some good points also - notably Simon McCrory.
Little surprise that as one of our best performers he is an example of how to carry yourself off the pitch.
Looks after himself physically and he is totally consumed by hurling - rarely without a stick in his hand.
A full panel of them and PJ might have a job more comparable to something in rival counties down below.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 14, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
So to confirm we can't qualify ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 14, 2016, 10:36:12 AM
Think whoever posted is correct. We can't qualify now. The only way we could is if 2nd, 3rd and 4th finished with the same amount of points which I don't think is possible now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 14, 2016, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 14, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
So to confirm we can't qualify ?

Westmeath Carlow and London are above us  so the question is
If Westmeath put out a week team against Carlow and they could do that and lose then they play each other again for promotion regardless if we beat London away
Still a mathematical l chance but I think In reality yesterday killed of any hope
Anyway div 2 is where we should be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2016, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 14, 2016, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 14, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
So to confirm we can't qualify ?

Westmeath Carlow and London are above is so the question is
If Westmeath put out a week team against Carlow and they could do that and lose then they play each other again for promotion regardless if we beat London away
Still a mathematical l chance but I think I'm reality yesterday killed of any hope
Anyway div 2 is where we should be

It's division 3 really - but I agree it's where we belong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
were not going anywhere next year. We will be back in Div 1b again next season.

I hate to run the team down as im as keen an antrim supporter as the next man. Its hard to stand and watch garbage like that yesterday and not feel that its never going to change. All these great players we apparently have yet for some reason come county level they seem to go back a step each time? Doesn't make sense at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 14, 2016, 12:09:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
were not going anywhere next year. We will be back in Div 1b again next season.

I hate to run the team down as im as keen an antrim supporter as the next man. Its hard to stand and watch garbage like that yesterday and not feel that its never going to change. All these great players we apparently have yet for some reason come county level they seem to go back a step each time? Doesn't make sense at all.

Player commitment

Look how our u21s treat inter county training
Look how some of our seniors treat it
Division 1players are married to it

It just doesn't stop at whatever collective training they are doing

Shefflin was no natural but he hit 400 balls every day of his hurling life
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 14, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
were not going anywhere next year. We will be back in Div 1b again next season.

I hate to run the team down as im as keen an antrim supporter as the next man. Its hard to stand and watch garbage like that yesterday and not feel that its never going to change. All these great players we apparently have yet for some reason come county level they seem to go back a step each time? Doesn't make sense at all.

2A DR
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2016, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 14, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
were not going anywhere next year. We will be back in Div 1b again next season.

I hate to run the team down as im as keen an antrim supporter as the next man. Its hard to stand and watch garbage like that yesterday and not feel that its never going to change. All these great players we apparently have yet for some reason come county level they seem to go back a step each time? Doesn't make sense at all.

2A DR

:o my bad lol  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 14, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
The lack of fight yesterday was my biggest concern. We've been told things have been going well thus far, and I could put Westmeath down to a bad display & a tough place to go...but yesterday was brutal as I thought there would be some kind of reaction to last weeks defeat. A total lack of hunger. Senior players should have been leading it but were no-where to be seen.
Before ability is even considered the lack of effort was the worrying thing for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 14, 2016, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 14, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
I think we need to set the expectations better. We are where we are. Attempts being made to improve dev squad structures, but really theres just not the right amount of interest on the game to create a fevered sustainable interest at county level. Young talented hurlers arrive at intercounty senior senior level and I'm sure the frst thing they can see is the subconscious lack of ambition. This is where we're at. We are not KK or Tipp where the passion for the game runs into the every fabric of their world. We're a narrow strata of life up here. Hurling men up here are a dedicated as anyone in any other county and we should be very proud of that. But we are killed by the number of take it or leavers or dont care at alls. With limited numbers (and that rolls into financial assistance) only so much can be achieved.

The half heartedness about us and for many years its been there so not PJs fault. Players acting the bollocks on weekends, poor attendance at training, how often do they puck a ball away from training etc?

When you compare the control of the ball Galway and Tipp had yesterday (and Carlow as well), our stickwork is way off the mark as is our ability to try to link up with each other.

Can't disagree with a word of that!
DR makes some good points also - notably Simon McCrory.
Little surprise that as one of our best performers he is an example of how to carry yourself off the pitch.
Looks after himself physically and he is totally consumed by hurling - rarely without a stick in his hand.
A full panel of them and PJ might have a job more comparable to something in rival counties down below.

That wee Portaferry camog keeping Simon on his toes!!
;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 14, 2016, 03:54:27 PM
Simon hurled his corner in fairness
I thought our full back did OK as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 14, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
Skull was the only one to bring it up but I thought that the achievement of St Louis Ballymena hurlers in reaching the All Ireland schools final is a positive sign that there is genuine talent emerging. Final in Thurles on Easter Monday. Good luck to them and Ruairi Ogs this Thursday. If either of them brings home the silver it can take the bad look off a disappointing start to the year elsewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 14, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
Skull was the only one to bring it up but I thought that the achievement of St Louis Ballymena hurlers in reaching the All Ireland schools final is a positive sign that there is genuine talent emerging. Final in Thurles on Easter Monday. Good luck to them and Ruairi Ogs this Thursday. If either of them brings home the silver it can take the bad look off a disappointing start to the year elsewhere.

Won by 8 and a win by double that would not have unduly flattered them, they were that superior all over the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2016, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 14, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
Skull was the only one to bring it up but I thought that the achievement of St Louis Ballymena hurlers in reaching the All Ireland schools final is a positive sign that there is genuine talent emerging. Final in Thurles on Easter Monday. Good luck to them and Ruairi Ogs this Thursday. If either of them brings home the silver it can take the bad look off a disappointing start to the year elsewhere.

Won by 8 and a win by double that would not have unduly flattered them, they were that superior all over the field.

They have a really good team with some great players on it. would love to see them win the All Ireland on easter monday.

Nice to see we have so many there on the panel, i think i counted 10 there from a recent picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 14, 2016, 05:32:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2016, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 14, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 14, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
Skull was the only one to bring it up but I thought that the achievement of St Louis Ballymena hurlers in reaching the All Ireland schools final is a positive sign that there is genuine talent emerging. Final in Thurles on Easter Monday. Good luck to them and Ruairi Ogs this Thursday. If either of them brings home the silver it can take the bad look off a disappointing start to the year elsewhere.

Won by 8 and a win by double that would not have unduly flattered them, they were that superior all over the field.

They have a really good team with some great players on it. would love to see them win the All Ireland on easter monday.

Nice to see we have so many there on the panel, i think i counted 10 there from a recent picture.

Didn't see a team list knocking about. Is there a good spread of clubs represented?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 14, 2016, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 14, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
I think we need to set the expectations better. We are where we are. Attempts being made to improve dev squad structures, but really theres just not the right amount of interest on the game to create a fevered sustainable interest at county level. Young talented hurlers arrive at intercounty senior senior level and I'm sure the frst thing they can see is the subconscious lack of ambition. This is where we're at. We are not KK or Tipp where the passion for the game runs into the every fabric of their world. We're a narrow strata of life up here. Hurling men up here are a dedicated as anyone in any other county and we should be very proud of that. But we are killed by the number of take it or leavers or dont care at alls. With limited numbers (and that rolls into financial assistance) only so much can be achieved.

The half heartedness about us and for many years its been there so not PJs fault. Players acting the bollocks on weekends, poor attendance at training, how often do they puck a ball away from training etc?

When you compare the control of the ball Galway and Tipp had yesterday (and Carlow as well), our stickwork is way off the mark as is our ability to try to link up with each other.

Can't disagree with a word of that!
DR makes some good points also - notably Simon McCrory.
Little surprise that as one of our best performers he is an example of how to carry yourself off the pitch.
Looks after himself physically and he is totally consumed by hurling - rarely without a stick in his hand.
A full panel of them and PJ might have a job more comparable to something in rival counties down below.

That wee Portaferry camog keeping Simon on his toes!!
;D

Easy now horse ;)
I did say he puts his hurling first :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2016, 10:12:29 PM
Anyone seen the email from Jim o route staying that all challenge games club and county must be refereed by an official from outside the county and is therefore impartial. All for insurance reasons. Thereby implying that most refs cannot be impartial! What about that MR! More horse shite to make all our lives easier!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
It was all county challenge matches need a ref from a neutral county for insurance reasons
and
all club challenge games need a neutral ref for insurance reasons.

Indeed ... more horse shite

Our seniors played a challenge game at the weekend up in County Derry with an official neutral referee and it was a blood bath of a game which end up abandoned, so some good following the official guidelines done us there. A total dereliction of duty from the man who's job it is to protect players. 3 men with serious injuries as a result of the thuggish behaviour of the opposition.  He stood in the middle and let it happen. Apologies afterwards from their mentors and officials who had no control over their player discipline.  No doubt the referees report will tell a totally different story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2016, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
It was all county challenge matches need a ref from a neutral county for insurance reasons
and
all club challenge games need a neutral ref for insurance reasons.

Indeed ... more horse shite

Our seniors played a challenge game at the weekend up in County Derry with an official neutral referee and it was a blood bath of a game which end up abandoned, so some good following the official guidelines done us there. A total dereliction of duty from the man who's job it is to protect players. 3 men with serious injuries as a result of the thuggish behaviour of the opposition.  He stood in the middle and let it happen. Apologies afterwards from their mentors and officials who had no control over their player discipline.  No doubt the referees report will tell a totally different story.

I've refereed these games... Both at minor and senior level, its a partnership between both teams and referee, he needs to be acutely aware of how the game unfolds and control the intensity without it flowing over into a sledging match.... Well that's the intention, what mangers say before these games or how certain players react to fouls/dirty strokes is out of the referees hands unfortunately and he should deal with it when it happens.... Regardless of it being a challenge game or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2016, 11:33:28 PM
What Derry club was that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2016, 05:20:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2016, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 14, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
It was all county challenge matches need a ref from a neutral county for insurance reasons
and
all club challenge games need a neutral ref for insurance reasons.

Indeed ... more horse shite

Our seniors played a challenge game at the weekend up in County Derry with an official neutral referee and it was a blood bath of a game which end up abandoned, so some good following the official guidelines done us there. A total dereliction of duty from the man who's job it is to protect players. 3 men with serious injuries as a result of the thuggish behaviour of the opposition.  He stood in the middle and let it happen. Apologies afterwards from their mentors and officials who had no control over their player discipline.  No doubt the referees report will tell a totally different story.

I've refereed these games... Both at minor and senior level, its a partnership between both teams and referee, he needs to be acutely aware of how the game unfolds and control the intensity without it flowing over into a sledging match.... Well that's the intention, what mangers say before these games or how certain players react to fouls/dirty strokes is out of the referees hands unfortunately and he should deal with it when it happens.... Regardless of it being a challenge game or not
Agreed MR, management certainly carry a large portion of the responsibility for some players behaviour. Should sanctions be extended to management for particular categories of indiscipline perhaps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 15, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
OK lads, 2 days out.

How do we think Thursday will go?

Feeling bizarrely confident the Dall will do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2016, 10:02:52 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 15, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
OK lads, 2 days out.

How do we think Thursday will go?

Feeling bizarrely confident the Dall will do it.

very hard to call.  I think if cushendall can hit the ground running they have a chance
It's both terms first final so it could be down to who can keep their  composure

Imm going for Cusendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.
So you don't think the manager has any responsibility to instill discipline? Very rarely are these type of incidents out of character and when the damage is done it's done. No point in viewing the player insurance as a safety net for a working man either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 15, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.
So you don't think the manager has any responsibility to instill discipline? Very rarely are these type of incidents out of character and when the damage is done it's done. No point in viewing the player insurance as a safety net for a working man either.

He has the responsibility to instil discipline yes - and all managers would because that benefits the team.

However, that's a totally different argument to holding the manager accountable for a lack of discipline.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2016, 10:02:52 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 15, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
OK lads, 2 days out.

How do we think Thursday will go?

Feeling bizarrely confident the Dall will do it.

very hard to call.  I think if cushendall can hit the ground running they have a chance
It's both terms first final so it could be down to who can keep their  composure

Imm going for Cusendall

Any team news?
Fingers crossed they do the business!
I always get a chuckle when the hurling folk walk out after the first game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 15, 2016, 10:35:17 AM
would like to see them win on Paddys day but i feel that NP are just that bit stronger than Cdall. they have only won 3 limerick titles and each time they have won munster as well. Thats a real strong record to have, not many clubs can boast that.

I watched Cdall in every championship game bar the ulster semi final and they have gotten it tight on more than one occasion. At the same time they have got over the line to win. The only game they were comfortable in was an All Ireland Semi final!

I wish them all the best and i hope im wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2016, 10:50:07 AM
I really hope they win too DR but they are up against it here I think. Every game has been tight like the semi like you say but I do think they have improved every game.

Their defense is good - it will probably be as good or better than NP's. It's the forward department I think they might struggle in. Not enough pace in it especially. It will be interesting to see where they play McAfee after the damage he did in the semi-final.

NP also have Downes and the other fella - Dowling is it? - who are big players though if they can be stopped could be anyone's game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2016, 10:50:07 AM
I really hope they win too DR but they are up against it here I think. Every game has been tight like the semi like you say but I do think they have improved every game.

Their defense is good - it will probably be as good or better than NP's. It's the forward department I think they might struggle in. Not enough pace in it especially. It will be interesting to see where they play McAfee after the damage he did in the semi-final.

NP also have Downes and the other fella - Dowling is it? - who are big players though if they can be stopped could be anyone's game.
That's the thing... NP have a great forward pair but the defence in Cushendall has been their main asset ... they have stopped each team this year with their tight defence....if they keep the foul count down (as dowling never misses) then they have a great chance.. hard quick hurling and take your fecking chances!!!!

one opportunity as there is no guarantee that they will get another chance with this team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.

I refereed enough games and managed enough games to know when managers wind up their players to go ape shit in a game... and if you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player... I'm not saying either that managers should be accountable but they do have a position of responsibility
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.

I refereed enough games and managed enough games to know when managers wind up their players to go ape shit in a game... and if you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player... I'm not saying either that managers should be accountable but they do have a position of responsibility

Which is precisely what I said - so thanks for agreeing with me.

If you reffed games where a manger was winding things up - then deal with it by putting him off the line or sticking it in your report.
If you don't know that's procedure the "you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player"


Otherwise introducing a blanket rule to make all managers accountable for players actions on the pitch is really nonsense - funny enough it's the players that's responsible for his own actions.

It's not that difficult to grasp really. Ref's these days eh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 15, 2016, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2016, 10:50:07 AM
I really hope they win too DR but they are up against it here I think. Every game has been tight like the semi like you say but I do think they have improved every game.

Their defense is good - it will probably be as good or better than NP's. It's the forward department I think they might struggle in. Not enough pace in it especially. It will be interesting to see where they play McAfee after the damage he did in the semi-final.

NP also have Downes and the other fella - Dowling is it? - who are big players though if they can be stopped could be anyone's game.
That's the thing... NP have a great forward pair but the defence in Cushendall has been their main asset ... they have stopped each team this year with their tight defence....if they keep the foul count down (as dowling never misses) then they have a great chance.. hard quick hurling and take your fecking chances!!!!

one opportunity as there is no guarantee that they will get another chance with this team

McCambridge was unreal against Sarsfields. He had the corner forward in his pocket from the very first ball played into them. Prob one of the best performances ive seen from him.

One down side to Cdalls forward play was the serious amount of wides they both hit and had hit at them in that match. Sarsfields missed serious chances in the first half, was criminal to watch.

They need to be ruthless in front of goal and their own on thurs to have any chance of winning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on March 15, 2016, 11:34:05 AM
In these pre season so called friendly matches there usually tends to be a bit of handbags at some stage. The ref doesn't want to send anybody off in these matches either so it's up to him to either say to the management to take that man off before I send him off or if said management had any sense they would have him off already. These are the games were u should be getting the discipline sorted for the upcoming season!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 15, 2016, 12:48:50 PM
I don't think Cushendal have enough up front to win. Then again I also thought Antrim would beat Carlow on Sunday.  So hopefully I'm wrong again. Good luck Ruari Og. Bring it home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 15, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
I think they'll win it. Their defence is top notch and they have a great team ethic. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 15, 2016, 01:30:32 PM
McCambridge had a great game in the semi final, but I thought Campbell run him close for motm, he set the tone with a thundering shoulder early on in the game. The 3/4 weeks then should do a lot for Graffins  fitness also. I wonder will the cushendall management chance mckeegan from the start at ff, to me he seemed to put himself about a lot more and was much more effective than the lad he replaced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 15, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: ardtole on March 15, 2016, 01:30:32 PM
McCambridge had a great game in the semi final, but I thought Campbell run him close for motm, he set the tone with a thundering shoulder early on in the game. The 3/4 weeks then should do a lot for Graffins  fitness also. I wonder will the cushendall management chance mckeegan from the start at ff, to me he seemed to put himself about a lot more and was much more effective than the lad he replaced.

Karl was well off the pace, the Dall management are correct to throw him on for the last 10 minutes or so when lads are tired, he's still a cute hoor and can engineer a bit of space, just can't cover the ground like he used to.

In the semi-final this Dall outfit played like a team and worked like hell for each other. They'll need to maintain that same mentality to give this pretty strong Na Piarsaigh team a run for it. Its not beyond them, but they'll need to keep their discipline and focus, take their scores and TBH I'd throw McAfee in and around the square and drop a few on top of him and see what comes off it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 02:05:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 15, 2016, 09:35:25 AM
Management? Surely you mean the Club?
How can a manager standing on a line take the brunt for someone having a rush of blood on the pitch?
How would any of you be encouraged to take a team - and then explain to your friends and family you are suspended because someone else hit a guy on the pitch?
Nonsense!


As for the actual regulation - I think a lot of well spirited games played by true Gaels would be suffering as a result of the few idiots. That's a terrible shame.

I refereed enough games and managed enough games to know when managers wind up their players to go ape shit in a game... and if you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player... I'm not saying either that managers should be accountable but they do have a position of responsibility

Which is precisely what I said - so thanks for agreeing with me.

If you reffed games where a manger was winding things up - then deal with it by putting him off the line or sticking it in your report.
If you don't know that's procedure the "you haven't then you must not attend too many games or not involved too much as a past player"


Otherwise introducing a blanket rule to make all managers accountable for players actions on the pitch is really nonsense - funny enough it's the players that's responsible for his own actions.

It's not that difficult to grasp really. Ref's these days eh.

That makes a change from the referee caused that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 15, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 16, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35817959 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35817959)

Cause if you dont, he will find you and he will kill you  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2016, 08:58:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2016, 08:58:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.

Look for me its try and call every foul or at the very least not let the game become a nasty affair....Tempo of the game isn't my concern and if there are fouls all the time then that's down to the players creating a stop start game... but you'll get players going on about the ref ruining the game with all the whistles !! 

I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2016, 08:58:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 15, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 15, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Referee's have a duty to make sure the game is played within the rules. Simple. Penalize heavily those who maliciously hold intent to harm their opponent(s) rather than look to play the ball. Referees who don't sanction the first malicious foul have a part to play in the next one.

Would have to agree with Skull on this one.

How many times have we seen the first foul go unpunished and it lead to a reaction.

Simply blow the first foul which is normally pretty obvious and set the tone and players then know where they stand.

Would you think then that most referees let the first foul go, and blow for the second one??

Yeah I would say most refs in a probably an admirable attempt to the let the game flow, miss the first foul and then pick up the reaction.

I would say it is more common under a dropping ball, lads pulling early or low with no intention of playing the ball. Wasnt a dig at the refs MR2, just been something I have observed.

Look for me its try and call every foul or at the very least not let the game become a nasty affair....Tempo of the game isn't my concern and if there are fouls all the time then that's down to the players creating a stop start game... but you'll get players going on about the ref ruining the game with all the whistles !! 

I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off

This is one of my big bug bears when it comes to the inter county scene at the top level, nearly every tackle is technically a foul but none are blown. Yes the players arent looking for them in those games but a foul is a foul and in not blowing it in these games they are making life more difficult for club referees in general.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Best of luck to the old enemy tomorrow. The backs will take care of business. Need a few lads to show up with Mc Manus on the big day and Tommy will be back north. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 16, 2016, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Best of luck to the old enemy tomorrow. The backs will take care of business. Need a few lads to show up with Mc Manus on the big day and Tommy will be back north.
+1. I hope to have an excuse over the mountain the morra night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 16, 2016, 04:56:35 PM
Am reading now that the winners of the Christy Ring have the chance to play in Leinster from next year onwards. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 16, 2016, 05:09:07 PM
I like the way Cushendall line out their soldiers. Hurling is a game of puck outs now a days, so all you're formations are based around that. First whean of minutes and who handles the occasion will be crucial. Loughiel paved the way by beating this team already. If Cushendall can put doubt in their minds early on then they have a great chance. Two horse race. Important they find their forwards with proper passes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 16, 2016, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 12:33:48 PM
I love the one, they wouldn't blow for this in Kilkenny!! feck off

Come on MR. There is some validity in that gripe

Watch TG4 against the top teams. Alot of 2/3 man tackling/fouling the arms/hands is let go in those matches. Hard to know if the TV cameras are having an impact on the decision making or not, but players up here see those teams gettting away with close to the edge technical fouls/defending.

Not saying who's right or wrong, but there isn't a consistency in what constitutes technical frees. It makes the likes of Tipp look like men possessed defending as if their lives depended on it, whilst up in Antrim you'd be classed as fouling machines for applying the same intensity to your defending.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
Couldn't agree more skull
The only ref that has played it square recently with Kilkenny is Barry Kelly and they hate him for it
They are the best hurlers I ever seen but also the not behind in the dark arts
Antrim don't get away with the half of it
MR 2 that's the facts
For what it's worth any time I seen you officiating you where as fair as you could be
But you can't argue with the fact that in county hurling it's a bit lob sided at times
This subject came up because of what happened to our seniors last Sunday and by all accounts one team had no interest in playing the ball
It's up to the ref to protect players who are going out to play and the ref on Sunday didn't
All the points and counterpoints won't change that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 08:42:26 PM
Id love nothing more to ref a match were players took the hard knocks in a game that's fair and move on.... That's the big difference... The Tipp and Cats and Galway men don't usually get drawn into creating a melee when is a hard tackle... Up North its a personal attack followed by fisty cuffs!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 08:42:26 PM
Id love nothing more to ref a match were players took the hard knocks in a game that's fair and move on.... That's the big difference... The Tipp and Cats and Galway men don't usually get drawn into creating a melee when is a hard tackle... Up North its a personal attack followed by fisty cuffs!!

Well would you call one player with 7 stitches in his hand another that had to go to hospital with concussion and another bad injury being soft
Those boys In the south are hard
And if they more robust as you say they the get plenty of soft frees when Antrim plays them
Don't try and draw comparisons between a hard tackle and out and out thuggery with a ref ignoring it all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 16, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 08:42:26 PM
Id love nothing more to ref a match were players took the hard knocks in a game that's fair and move on.... That's the big difference... The Tipp and Cats and Galway men don't usually get drawn into creating a melee when is a hard tackle... Up North its a personal attack followed by fisty cuffs!!

Well would you call one player with 7 stitches in his hand another that had to go to hospital with concussion and another bad injury being soft
Those boys In the south are hard
And if they more robust as you say they the get plenty of soft frees when Antrim plays them
Don't try and draw comparisons between a hard tackle and out and out thuggery with a ref ignoring it all

I'm not, I'm saying if its a hard tackle but within the rules its grand, its the reaction of players to being hit hard but fair!! They gripe and look retribution in most cases.... Anyone ending up with stitches from a deliberate strike to the hand, and lets be honest we know when its deliberate with intention or late... The late deserves a yellow but the deliberate is a red card for striking... Its going to happen tomorrow when tackles fly...

Hopefully things work out this year.... I do enjoy the games, while it will never replace playing I enjoy being involved in games and still applaud great scores or plays in a match..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2016, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2016, 08:42:26 PM
Id love nothing more to ref a match were players took the hard knocks in a game that's fair and move on.... That's the big difference... The Tipp and Cats and Galway men don't usually get drawn into creating a melee when is a hard tackle... Up North its a personal attack followed by fisty cuffs!!

Indeed MR, that's exactly our downfall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 17, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
Good luck cushendall hope your bring it home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 17, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
Best of luck to the Dall, they've a good chance if they can sustain the levels they had in the semi-final and keep that team ethos going that's stood by them this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on March 17, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
Best of luck to Cushendall today. Have shown incredible fight to get here and no small amount of hurling. I do think they are up against it though. NaP have come out of Munster 3 of the last 5 years; you have to go back to the great Cork sides of the 70's namely Blackrock and St Finbarrs to find teams who have similar records in Munster. In saying that Limerick teams, both county and club, tend to underperform in Croke Park so you never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 17, 2016, 03:16:53 PM
They fought to the end, fair play. Na Piarsaigh just the better team. Unlucky RuarI Og.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
Unfortunate not to get a handy teams in the final like the Shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 17, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
Unfortunate not to get a handy teams in the final like the Shamrocks.
:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 17, 2016, 05:20:19 PM
Two very one sided games today. Never thought Dall had much of a chance today, and so it proved. Na Pairsiagh are a serious outfit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 17, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
Hard luck to cushendall. They were up against a damn good team. Motm was a guy who was a sub shows the depth in their panel. They had strngth, speed and skill and just were too good.

Cushendall didn't disgrace themselves though. Shane mcnaughton was excellent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 17, 2016, 08:27:25 PM
Dall half back line had a busy day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 17, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
I was down today and the Limerick crew where top class
Shane MC naughton was outstanding
No shame to go down to a quality side like that
Hard luck cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 17, 2016, 11:14:09 PM
Cushendall got off to the worst start posable. But in fairness they scored two of the nicest goals you are likely to see. Hard luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 18, 2016, 11:41:55 AM
Na Piarsaigh just a better side all over the pitch - cushendall can hold their head high and accept that defeat - a successful year given the Ulster title a step further than last year and the parish have a day at HQ which in time will be a journey they remember fondly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on March 18, 2016, 11:43:19 AM
would just like to say that in my heart of hearts i dont think that even our very best performance today would have beat what na piarsaigh produced. an absolutely super team. skill,running lines,accuracy & frightening speed all over the pitch.they had it all.no shame in defeat for us. did us all proud. around 2-14 is what we have been scoring all year so that tells its own tale.sometimes you just have to suck it up & stand back & admire pure class as you are watching it.to our own boys, what a journey from losing in the feis to cloughmills to the greatest show on earth on paddys day. pure magic.memories to last a lifetime. also the goodwill from all the clubs in the county was evident & very much appreciated. you'll always get a few who like to see people fail but to hell with them!!!  i can honestly say that having experienced the emotion, goodwill,anticipation & feelings of pride that this run provided,i wouldnt begrudge it to anyone. obviously i hope we can win the c'ship again next year to have another crack but if we dont i would support any team from the north goin down.it was an absolute pleasure & gave me memories for myself & family that i wouldnt swap for a billion quid!!! all the best to everyone in the c'ship but of course  UP THE RUAIRIS!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
Number 8 for NP was a serious operator !!! built like feck and a flying machine!! All big units to be fair! I'd be checking their nutrition source!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2016, 01:45:40 PM
Hard luck ruari ogs. Na piarsaigh are a big strong outfit with class all over the field. It could have been different if they hadn't shipped that early goal. The heads seemed to go down. I thought Cushendall only started hurling in the second half when 14 down. Too late at that point. Once you get to this level you can't let up. They'll be back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 18, 2016, 06:03:58 PM
Hard luck to cdall yesterday. just simply weren't good enough on the day.  Second best all over the field and can have no complaints or hard luck stories.  In a way. It's better than hurling well and thinking what might have been had it only been a point of two.   Shane Mc Naughton was outstanding and hurled as well as he has done in a long time.  How the younger brother got staying on as long as he did I'll never no!!!!  He never struck leather in the semi either.  Just were missing that out and out forward.  Saying that Na P were in serious serious shape.  And looked to have improved massively since there semi final win.  Every break fell to a blue jersey and it seemed no matter where they were it was over the bar.  Mc Manus never got going to it was out of reach.   A young team and will be hurting for a day or two. Lessons learned from the experience. On to 2016
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 19, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
County lads on tour to London tomorrow
What's the predictions
I think we are due a performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on March 19, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: auld stock on March 18, 2016, 11:43:19 AM
would just like to say that in my heart of hearts i dont think that even our very best performance today would have beat what na piarsaigh produced. an absolutely super team. skill,running lines,accuracy & frightening speed all over the pitch.they had it all.no shame in defeat for us. did us all proud. around 2-14 is what we have been scoring all year so that tells its own tale.sometimes you just have to suck it up & stand back & admire pure class as you are watching it.to our own boys, what a journey from losing in the feis to cloughmills to the greatest show on earth on paddys day. pure magic.memories to last a lifetime. also the goodwill from all the clubs in the county was evident & very much appreciated. you'll always get a few who like to see people fail but to hell with them!!!  i can honestly say that having experienced the emotion, goodwill,anticipation & feelings of pride that this run provided,i wouldnt begrudge it to anyone. obviously i hope we can win the c'ship again next year to have another crack but if we dont i would support any team from the north goin down.it was an absolute pleasure & gave me memories for myself & family that i wouldnt swap for a billion quid!!! all the best to everyone in the c'ship but of course  UP THE RUAIRIS!!!!

Great post. Long time exile here. Haven't seen much 'live'  hurling for a while but will never forget falling in love with hurling (footballer myself) watching the Shamrocks beating St Rynaghs in the replay all those years ago. Awesome stuff and lasting memories. Was always in awe of the close quarter skills of the great Antrim AI team and remember like it was yesterday Cushendall playing in a tournament in Glenravel,  Sambo surrounded by 3_4 men,  ball on the ground and him coming away with ball in hand. Superb hurler. Those memories will last forever.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 20, 2016, 02:22:07 PM
Latest: London 0-7 Antrim 0-7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 20, 2016, 02:25:55 PM
London 0-17 Antrim 0-14 into 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 20, 2016, 03:06:19 PM
London with a goal 1-17 to Antrim's 0-15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Getting worse!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 20, 2016, 03:18:02 PM
New low
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on March 20, 2016, 03:19:19 PM
London now leading by five points London 1-19 Antrim 0-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 20, 2016, 03:21:13 PM
Well I suppose they tanked Carlow and we couldn't beat them so maybe no surprise
Still bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2016, 03:23:30 PM
Jaysus boys this is back to what we were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 20, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
1-21 to 1-18 now. Nial mc Kenna goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 20, 2016, 03:30:20 PM
1-21 to 1-19 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
 :(  :(


>:(  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 04:29:10 PM
Not good.  There was nothing to play for.  But not good. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.
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Management?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 05:01:21 PM
 
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.
[/quote

Management?
::) bit early. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.

Management?
players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.

Management?
players.

What players is he going to change? I thought her knew the club scene and all the best players and they were all turning out for him bar the injured and Cushendall players tied up with the club?

Was this not the point of trials earlier in the season and now to try and get a system of play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.

Management?
players.

What players is he going to change? I thought her knew the club scene and all the best players and they were all turning out for him bar the injured and Cushendall players tied up with the club?

Was this not the point of trials earlier in the season and now to try and get a system of play?
yes. And all the players aren't there yet. Early days and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 05:57:51 PM
Give Smokey the job Nag. He's the man  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 20, 2016, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 05:57:51 PM
Give Smokey the job Nag. He's the man  ???

He couldn't do any worse than PJ is doing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 20, 2016, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 05:57:51 PM
Give Smokey the job Nag. He's the man  ???

He couldn't do any worse than PJ is doing
Or kevin ryan for three years.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2016, 06:22:02 PM
Some of the Shamrocks looking very foolish after the shite they peddled last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 06:24:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 20, 2016, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 05:57:51 PM
Give Smokey the job Nag. He's the man  ???

He couldn't do any worse than PJ is doing
Or kevin ryan for three years.  ;)

Genuinely would KR have lead this squad of players to those three defeats?

Don't want to keep going over the old ground but he hasn't left himself much wriggle room with this start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
there's a whole host of players that the current manager hasn't got and won't have for selection that were there last year.  You can only work with what's there, there's a whole new mindset/attitude needed if we're to improve and it will take time to instill that.  So all am asking the snippers and lad who love putting the knife in to give the currant manager the same time given to the previous manager.    Years gone by I've spoken about mangers.  For and against.  KR had to go.  He had his "3 year plan". It didn't work for loads of reasons.  Anyone who expects a manager to come in and provide instant results with a county on its knees is a fool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on March 20, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
Listen lads - I was open to PJ getting the job based on his club record. He is a media man, loves the profile. However it became apparent over last 3 months that this job was always going to end in tears. Commitment, lack of buy in again from key players, drink, and managers inability to set an example has emploded Antrim to an all time low. I'm not buying the bull crap about giving him time, Cushendall, injuries etc, the stories that have come out over last 3 months mean this will only get worse. Trust me - if Antrim were into a winner - McManus in particular wouldn't be taking a years travelling.
I don't have an answer but from what I do know from sport - a team will always takes its leadership from it'd boss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:30:34 PM
You boys are hilarious. Three and a half months pj and his team are there. Maybe we should have got cody. He'd have probably cost less than previous incumbants.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Quote from: Leyland on March 20, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
Listen lads - I was open to PJ getting the job based on his club record. He is a media man, loves the profile. However it became apparent over last 3 months that this job was always going to end in tears. Commitment, lack of buy in again from key players, drink, and managers inability to set an example has emploded Antrim to an all time low. I'm not buying the bull crap about giving him time, Cushendall, injuries etc, the stories that have come out over last 3 months mean this will only get worse. Trust me - if Antrim were into a winner - McManus in particular wouldn't be taking a years travelling.
I don't have an answer but from what I do know from sport - a team will always takes its leadership from it'd boss.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:30:34 PM
You boys are hilarious. Three and a half months pj and his team are there. Maybe we should have got cody. He'd have probably cost less than previous incumbants.

You really want to go there SIE  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2016, 06:22:02 PM
Some of the Shamrocks looking very foolish after the shite they peddled last year.
You're not allowed to say that!!

Another poor result. Not surprised all the same when I seen the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 20, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Poor performance alright. Changes on the way I'd think.

Management?
players.

After Westmeath ... sure it's just one defeat

Carlow ...defeat no 2

London ... defeat no 3

Progress still being made SIE?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:35:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 20, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 06:30:34 PM
You boys are hilarious. Three and a half months pj and his team are there. Maybe we should have got cody. He'd have probably cost less than previous incumbants.

You really want to go there SIE  ::)
Do you not think that three  and a half months is a just a ltitle bit of an unrealistic time period to turn things around considering the mess that was left? If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 06:49:28 PM
Boys it's very very simple.  Attitude and commitment stinks in Antrim.  Stinks!!!   I could name 5 players that were apart of Antrim county squad that were drunk during the week,  pure and simple. Not good enough!!!! Yes neill mc manus Arron Graffin shorty and so on would all make a massive difference,  but that's a handful of lads.    I didn't back KR at the end for the way he conducted himself.  People say PJ isn't conducting himself correctly.  That's something I don't no much about being honest. What do we do?   Give up on it completely?  Sad sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 20, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
Three and a half months is a bit quick to judge any manager. Give him to the end of year and see if he can win the Christy Ring. If he does fair play if not thanks for your effort time to move on. Only once in my time following Antrim have we been in what is effectively Division 3 and the Christy Ring. That year Jingo and Humpy won every league match, the ulster championship and the christy ring. And the thanks for their efforts they were sacked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 20, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
Is the current situation not the reality of where we actually stand? Kevin Ryan lost to Westmeath and Carlow last year too, we don't have the depth of players and allied to that the apathy that's throughout the county, for the county teams at least, is never going to get us anywhere. As others have said a root and branch review from the bottom up is needed. Without getting into all this inter club shite we'd be going nowhere with Cody, Loughnane or whoever would be in charge with the current apathy towards the county team, players, supporters and everybody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
Listen, money hasn't really much to do with it, as all County setups cost money to run, even bad ones!! The end of the year financial report will show this current setup are one of the most expensive managements over the last number of years Fact!!
The stories coming out are becoming worse, but if results/performances where to improve hopefully things will settle down. To be fair we all knew PJs tactical defiencies which were only too evident in last year's double header between Ruairi Og and Shamrocks where the lack if change in the centre forward position from him should have exposed our stand in  no 6. The  game plan term is overused, Hard Work with Commitment and Talent and a bit of direction should see us improve on last year, but too many of these ingredients are missing atm.
I haven't heard otherwise but I do think only 1/2 Cushendall players will return to the panel and I'm not sure they will make any dramatic difference to the current situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 20, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
Is the current situation not the reality of where we actually stand? Kevin Ryan lost to Westmeath and Carlow last year too, we don't have the depth of players and allied to that the apathy that's throughout the county, for the county teams at least, is never going to get us anywhere. As others have said a root and branch review from the bottom up is needed. Without getting into all this inter club shite we'd be going nowhere with Cody, Loughnane or whoever would be in charge with the current apathy towards the county team, players, supporters and everybody.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 20, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
Listen, money hasn't really much to do with it, as all County setups cost money to run, even bad ones!! The end of the year financial report will show this current setup are one of the most expensive managements over the last number of years Fact!!
The stories coming out are becoming worse, but if results/performances where to improve hopefully things will settle down. To be fair we all knew PJs tactical defiencies which were only too evident in last year's double header between Ruairi Og and Shamrocks where the lack if change in the centre forward position from him should have exposed our stand in  no 6. The  game plan term is overused, Hard Work with Commitment and Talent and a bit of direction should see us improve on last year, but too many of these ingredients are missing atm.
I haven't heard otherwise but I do think only 1/2 Cushendall players will return to the panel and I'm not sure they will make any dramatic difference to the current situation.
I heard 5 maybe 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 20, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
Three and a half months is a bit quick to judge any manager. Give him to the end of year and see if he can win the Christy Ring. If he does fair play if not thanks for your effort time to move on. Only once in my time following Antrim have we been in what is effectively Division 3 and the Christy Ring. That year Jingo and Humpy won every league match, the ulster championship and the christy ring. And the thanks for their efforts they were sacked.
I was talking to a an ex county hurler not so long ago about jingo. He said he got very badly treated. Probably the last time there was any sort of team spirt within the squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 20, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
Three and a half months is a bit quick to judge any manager. Give him to the end of year and see if he can win the Christy Ring. If he does fair play if not thanks for your effort time to move on. Only once in my time following Antrim have we been in what is effectively Division 3 and the Christy Ring. That year Jingo and Humpy won every league match, the ulster championship and the christy ring. And the thanks for their efforts they were sacked.
some difference to the players that were there under jingo and the ones that's there now.  But I agree.  That management team got the best out of the county. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 20, 2016, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 20, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
Is the current situation not the reality of where we actually stand? Kevin Ryan lost to Westmeath and Carlow last year too, we don't have the depth of players and allied to that the apathy that's throughout the county, for the county teams at least, is never going to get us anywhere. As others have said a root and branch review from the bottom up is needed. Without getting into all this inter club shite we'd be going nowhere with Cody, Loughnane or whoever would be in charge with the current apathy towards the county team, players, supporters and everybody.
+1

+1 on the bits in bold

I'd pull the senior team out of all competitions and have that review.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 20, 2016, 07:23:16 PM
I'm still hopeful of this management, they're down some serious players beaten by an average of 6 each league game this year the talent waiting in the wings or waiting to come back from injury I think would be plenty to cover that, people will say we shouldn't be creeping past these teams even we had the players but wins breed confidence and confidence breeds form.
Christy Ring hopefully have a better and more accurate showing for us, or maybe I'm just a bit too much of an optimist
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 20, 2016, 07:38:32 PM
That's a horrendous result - let's not pretend anything else.

But it doesn't bring into question the manager for 3 reasons;

1) we were not getting promoted anyway and we are not near the teams in the next division up so this result does not effect our league.
2) if I was a player on that team I would be looking squarely in the mirror not at management.
3) league it one previously mentioned - the aim is winning Christy ring. Judge management at the end of the year.

There's a been a number of posts questioning player commitment and accusations of drinking.
tgats incredible. If it's true then perhaps PJ might be given time to assemble people worthy of the jersey.

But as I said - today's result is horrendous. Let's not make any bones about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 20, 2016, 07:23:16 PM
I'm still hopeful of this management, they're down some serious players beaten by an average of 6 each league game this year the talent waiting in the wings or waiting to come back from injury I think would be plenty to cover that, people will say we shouldn't be creeping past these teams even we had the players but wins breed confidence and confidence breeds form.
Christy Ring hopefully have a better and more accurate showing for us, or maybe I'm just a bit too much of an optimist
hopefully.  Tho I'd say not to many on here hope the same.  The que round the block is growing for the head of the ex lougjhiel manager.   Wonder would it be the same had say maybe patch mullan got the job and wasn't being intantly successful.  Or say a dalargy from Cdall??  The club hatred is shocking got.  When it's got to this stage.  Worst I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 20, 2016, 07:38:32 PM
That's a horrendous result - let's not pretend anything else.

But it doesn't bring into question the manager for 3 reasons;

1) we were not getting promoted anyway and we are not near the teams in the next division up so this result does not effect our league.
2) if I was a player on that team I would be looking squarely in the mirror not at management.
3) league it one previously mentioned - the aim is winning Christy ring. Judge management at the end of the year.

There's a been a number of posts questioning player commitment and accusations of drinking.
tgats incredible. If it's true then perhaps PJ might be given time to assemble people worthy of the jersey.

But as I said - today's result is horrendous. Let's not make any bones about that.
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 20, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o
Ah jaysus. Batten down the hatches.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 20, 2016, 08:22:15 PM
Yeah PJ is only into the job but nobody was expecting him to win the All Ireland this year (impossible I know) but being competitive against Westmeath/ Carlow and being able to beat London isn't too much of an ask.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:40:02 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o
:-\  :-\

Genuinely just wanted to know what players were to return to the squad to help things!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 20, 2016, 09:23:13 PM
I spoke to a few dall men on Thursday in Quinns & they said that Eoin Campbell, McCambridge, Carson, Paddy Burke & 1 maybe 2 more were going to the county.

When I saw the team that was picked for today, I knew we'd struggle. Lets not get carried away here, we got beat by London in a dead rubber game. We get rid of the 5/6 lads who are going get the Dall lads on and build from there for the Christy Ring. I think somebody made the point a few posts backs the inter club hatred which happens is not healthy, it's about time our senior hurlers put that to one side and play for the manager and the county jersey. If the rumours of drinking during the week are correct, then those lads should be hunted from the set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 20, 2016, 10:01:40 PM
One thing KR tried to do was get the discipline nailed down. Things seemed to have slipped in that regard.

Important to remember it was Paddys day midweek so is it the worst offense in the world having a few jars when you've a dead rubber game coming up? I'm not so sure  :-\

I think we're at our level and do not expect the dall lads to change things that much. I'd pull the plug and spend the money on dev squads

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2016, 10:20:21 PM
Kevin Ryan got extremely bad manners on here. Totally unjustified I thought at the time. Nothing has happened since to make me rethink.

Biggest loss of all - Jim Nelson RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 12:05:40 AM
If KR got disciple right that doesn't say much for the resting his ability given results?

I'm split 50/50 about the beer on st Patrick's day - maybe in the context of a dead rubber - I suppose like I say we'll judge that at the end of the year.

No arguments on Jim all the same - a gent and great hurling man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 21, 2016, 09:57:26 AM
i was happy to give PJ the job, he wanted it bad and he talked himself up to get the job. Now hes there he has to do the job. Theres no point in blaming this or that each and every time things go wrong. The buck stops with him as the manager. Take the problems and work them out, find a solution not an excuse.

Im still happy to let him keep on going. Lets be honest we are not good enough to be promoted and we are at the league level we deserve to be at. The Christy Ring is now next up and we can regroup and have a go at that.

After that, well then ill decide if hes the man for the job. At the moment im 50/50.

As i said before, he did a lot of talking before he got the job and listed endless faults in our county set up. Very little has changed since that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 21, 2016, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o

Shortys still going through his rehab training, hes a brave bit off hurling as of yet. Was chatting to him the other night in the gym and hes doing all the rehab training and working his way through it all. Be summer time before hes hurling again most likely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2016, 12:28:41 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2016, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o

Shortys still going through his rehab training, hes a brave bit off hurling as of yet. Was chatting to him the other night in the gym and hes doing all the rehab training and working his way through it all. Be summer time before hes hurling again most likely.

An op like that is a year before your back to where you should be
Can't see him even ready for club championship unfortunately
As for the PJ bashing I think we are being a bit harsh
There's some players in the panel not up to scratch and not committed
Another thing is a lot of them are very young
I attended all the matches when shorty and Mc Manus and hippy where that age and took 2 or 3 years to get up to county pace albeit against stiffer opposition

If you read PJ comments after these matches he isn't shying away from his role in all this
He is trying his best without some really good players
Let's not start being hypocritical and start berating him like some clowns on here did with KR

He is a bit blindsided about some of the players  he brought in and there effectiveness
Speaking of which did Liam watson travel to London as I didn't see him on the team


 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2016, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o

Shortys still going through his rehab training, hes a brave bit off hurling as of yet. Was chatting to him the other night in the gym and hes doing all the rehab training and working his way through it all. Be summer time before hes hurling again most likely.

An op like that is a year before your back to where you should be
Can't see him even ready for club championship unfortunately
As for the PJ bashing I think we are being a bit harsh
There's some players in the panel not up to scratch and not committed
Another thing is a lot of them are very young
I attended all the matches when shorty and Mc Manus and hippy where that age and took 2 or 3 years to get up to county pace albeit against stiffer opposition

If you read PJ comments after these matches he isn't shying away from his role in all this
He is trying his best without some really good players
Let's not start being hypocritical and start berating him like some clowns on here did with KR

He is a bit blindsided about some of the players  he brought in and there effectiveness
Speaking of which did Liam watson travel to London as I didn't see him on the team





He was listed as a sub..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on March 21, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
Whats the craic with Watson, was he injured?  Why was he played at Centre Back the other week, is he not as effective up front anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 21, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2016, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 20, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on March 20, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
What players are actually missing for Antrim? Is it really that many?

McManus & Graffin are unavailable so you can't count them.
Shorty is injured.
There was only 4 Cushendall players to join the panel in a couple of weeks.
Who else is out there?
the three you mentioned were are arguably three of the best in Ulster.
No doubting that.
Two of them won't be playing for Antrim this season. I wanted to know what players are to come back this season?
dont no what the story with shorty is,  am of the opinion there will be 5/6 Dall men called up.  Also there's been a few players removed in days gone by.  Wait to that gets out   :o

Shortys still going through his rehab training, hes a brave bit off hurling as of yet. Was chatting to him the other night in the gym and hes doing all the rehab training and working his way through it all. Be summer time before hes hurling again most likely.

An op like that is a year before your back to where you should be
Can't see him even ready for club championship unfortunately
As for the PJ bashing I think we are being a bit harsh
There's some players in the panel not up to scratch and not committed
Another thing is a lot of them are very young
I attended all the matches when shorty and Mc Manus and hippy where that age and took 2 or 3 years to get up to county pace albeit against stiffer opposition

If you read PJ comments after these matches he isn't shying away from his role in all this
He is trying his best without some really good players
Let's not start being hypocritical and start berating him like some clowns on here did with KR

He is a bit blindsided about some of the players  he brought in and there effectiveness
Speaking of which did Liam watson travel to London as I didn't see him on the team



fair play   Decent post.  I believe even his ex club manager can't keep the man on the straight and narrow.  From what am hearing.  He's gone.  Along with another up and coming star.  May be wrong.  Time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 21, 2016, 04:01:54 PM
Yeah lad for a first posts its poor. Private matters are that itself, private, and therefore not up for mention or discussion at all.

Talk about his hurling ability etc by all means
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2016, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2016, 03:14:08 PM
guru,
    not sure what you're getting at, but that post is in bad taste and neither man mentioned deserves whatever perceived issues aired in such a way.

Be a good lad and remove ASAP.

Guru I still think your post correction is in total bad taste and I for one would ask you to take it down completely.

This is a hurling forum and while we all have our opinions and it can get heated we only want to discuss hurling issues.

If you want to contribute by all means, but why don't you take your post down reboot and start again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on March 21, 2016, 05:51:33 PM
I am wondering why it's ok for SG to say the player is impossible to keep on the straight and narrow by PJ but I Shouldn't say it.

I still believe his magic has gone, though I would love to be proved wrong

I 
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2016, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2016, 03:14:08 PM
guru,
    not sure what you're getting at, but that post is in bad taste and neither man mentioned deserves whatever perceived issues aired in such a way.

Be a good lad and remove ASAP.

Guru I still think your post correction is in total bad taste and I for one would ask you to take it down completely.

This is a hurling forum and while we all have our opinions and it can get heated we only want to discuss hurling issues.

If you want to contribute by all means, but why don't you take your post down reboot and start again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Quote from: hurlingguru on March 21, 2016, 05:51:33 PM
I am wondering why it's ok for SG to say the player is impossible to keep on the straight and narrow by PJ but I Shouldn't say it.

I still believe his magic has gone, though I would love to be proved wrong

I 
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2016, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2016, 03:14:08 PM
guru,
    not sure what you're getting at, but that post is in bad taste and neither man mentioned deserves whatever perceived issues aired in such a way.

Be a good lad and remove ASAP.

Guru I still think your post correction is in total bad taste and I for one would ask you to take it down completely.

This is a hurling forum and while we all have our opinions and it can get heated we only want to discuss hurling issues.

If you want to contribute by all means, but why don't you take your post down reboot and start again.

I would have thought that was pretty obvious coming from a man from his own club he has the right to comment.

You on the other hand have no right which I am pretty sure you are aware of, mentioning private matters on  a public forum.

If you want to talk hurling and his ability then take down your initial post and discuss him in hurling terms. No one has an issue with that but we as hurling people would have an issue with raising matters outside of this especially if they are of a private/ personal nature.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on March 21, 2016, 06:04:48 PM
I am also from the same club.

I took the post down when you requested me to do so, not sure why it's still visible on your page. If it's not gone soon, let me know and contact the moderator.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingguru on March 21, 2016, 06:04:48 PM
I am also from the same club.

I took the post down when you requested me to do so, not sure why it's still visible on your page. If it's not gone soon, let me know and contact the moderator.

Fair enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Sure there isn't a decent ref in the city😃😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Sure there isn't a decent ref in the city😃😃😃

Especially the ref that was doing that game.. Worst in the county!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Sure there isn't a decent ref in the city😃😃😃

Especially the ref that was doing that game.. Worst in the county!!

Was waiting on PaddyJohn!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2016, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 21, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Sure there isn't a decent ref in the city😃😃😃

Especially the ref that was doing that game.. Worst in the county!!

Was waiting on PaddyJohn!

Why?? Sure I'm telling no lies. Not as easy task being a ref but most refs I've known all try to stay outta the limelight but not yer man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 10:57:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Why what have heard?? Surely the referee seen what happened?? No? Apparently one of our lads ended up with 8 stitches' from a dirty  strike from behind.... And the referee apparently ran away!! Not sure as I wasn't there so only going on hearsay which is silly, no way would a referee run away... Who was the referee??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on March 22, 2016, 12:07:12 AM
I heard there's a video of the ref legging it during the row so don't think his report will say much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
 :)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

Exactly. .... I heard one of our lads put a controversial johnnies lad on his hole and he reacted by dirty joe'ing him... Melee next and then the game was abandon or the ref ran away.... Either way Last Man you're correct in how this is demeaning of Jims memorial tournament
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

Exactly. .... I heard one of our lads put a controversial johnnies lad on his hole and he reacted by dirty joe'ing him... Melee next and then the game was abandon or the ref ran away.... Either way Last Man you're correct in how this is demeaning of Jims memorial tournament

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

+1
Regardless of each Club's different version of events - that much is 100% correct !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

+1
Regardless of each Club's different version of events - that much is 100% correct !

Your club wasn't involved  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Clover on March 22, 2016, 05:11:19 PM
Two teams beat the life out of each other and some people blame the ref who ever he was put the blame were it should be with the two teams I'm sure the ref never hit anyone with a stick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2016, 06:21:47 PM
The referee is the good guy in all of this

But here's the kicker

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

The referee failed to do his duty. Wonder what hot headed youngsters at the game will learn from that next time they line out and the games not going their way?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2016, 06:47:22 PM
The post above & also the news coming out of the Antrim camp....

Batten down the hatches, it could be a long few days on here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

+1
Regardless of each Club's different version of events - that much is 100% correct !

Your club wasn't involved  ;)

If I was in a position in any Club I would be dealing with it.
Interesting to see how that goes.
I might even put a bet on it ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X

So did Arthur Guinness & Capt Morgan! Be careful what you send via Whatsapp..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 22, 2016, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X

I heard that as well ... jesus feckin christ. If found to be true ... I'd ban them for life.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 22, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
Im just reading between the lines, I hope im reading them wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
A few bookies were hoping they read something wrong too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X

I know what your talking about. It's a disgrace but this forum isn't the place dude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 22, 2016, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X
f**king shocking!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:08:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
I hear paddy power got a wile rattle at the weekend.  :-X

I know what your talking about. It's a disgrace but this forum isn't the place dude
?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 22, 2016, 09:12:40 PM
Just after hearing this myself.

If it's true by Jesus there will be hell to pay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

Ah now MR2 don't be like that....as a principle I don't like to engage in the petty politics of selective condemnation, but just for you it wasn't OK and wasn't justified in any way, but hey just trying to bring a bit balance. Looking forward to the reciprocation  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 22, 2016, 09:15:02 PM
Just players i take it? Wouldn't be the first time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.

Ok then fire away
Why don't you tell us what PJ said in the Antrim post while your at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.

Ok then fire away
Why don't you tell us what PJ said in the Antrim post while your at it
I haven't read it lad but I believe he apologised to Kevin ryan after seeing first hand what he had to contend with. I'd say that's refreshing. Maybe it's time all the crap was aired and dealt with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.

Ok then fire away
Why don't you tell us what PJ said in the Antrim post while your at it
I haven't read it lad but I believe he apologised to Kevin ryan after seeing first hand what he had to contend with. I'd say that's refreshing. Maybe it's time all the crap was aired and dealt with.

That's right fair play to PJ
Now it's your turn
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 22, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
So not just players by the sounds of it

Absolutely f**king shameful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.

Ok then fire away
Why don't you tell us what PJ said in the Antrim post while your at it
I haven't read it lad but I believe he apologised to Kevin ryan after seeing first hand what he had to contend with. I'd say that's refreshing. Maybe it's time all the crap was aired and dealt with.

That's right fair play to PJ
Now it's your turn
lol. He still didn't help himself. I also know what he did. He's  moved on, time you did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Time I move on 😃😃😃
Your where sniping just days ago
Come on what about that apology then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 22, 2016, 10:06:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Time I move on 😃😃😃
Your where sniping just days ago
Come on what about that apology then

No need for an apology, PJ is obviously starting to realise the depth of the job. He had no appreciation of it before.

His main gripe was around his own club men which he backed to the hilt which is fair enough, still doing so but the problem now is that they aren't performing for him along with the rest of the squad.

Sounds like the reasoning of desperate man rather than a man full confidence about leading the squad forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Time I move on 😃😃😃
Your where sniping just days ago
Come on what about that apology then
like I posted there, I know what he did.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 22, 2016, 10:08:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it is pretty embarrassing alright.And I agree.I'd name every lad that done it and f**k them of the panel. Absolute disgrace!!! Talk about pride in the jersey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 23, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
ahhhhh, i hate this, ive no idea what happened

could someone PM me what happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:00:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 22, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Jesus lads pm each other as I find this very embarrassing being form Antrim and seeing this on a public forum
They should be named and shamed but someone might get mud slung at them who were innocent
If someone on here seen there dockets then fair enough
it would appear to be common knowledge within the whole of Antrim by the looks of it.

And beyond  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 11:13:47 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!

Fair enough, hopefully its properly investigated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 23, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!
balls!!!!   2/3 starters had a lot of money on London.  Fact!!!  No matter of stag or who was missing for whatever reason. There was 15 lads on the field, dockets getting waived about the place after is the reason it's out.  Players done it and don't seem to give a f**k who knows. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 23, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!
balls!!!!   2/3 starters had a lot of money on London.  Fact!!!  No matter of stag or who was missing for whatever reason. There was 15 lads on the field, dockets getting waived about the place after is the reason it's out.  Players done it and don't seem to give a f**k who knows.

Agreed I can't beleave that posters on here trying to make light of it
It's an absolute embarrassment and correct me if Imm wrong but illegal
Things are at an all time low
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 23, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!
balls!!!!   2/3 starters had a lot of money on London.  Fact!!!  No matter of stag or who was missing for whatever reason. There was 15 lads on the field, dockets getting waived about the place after is the reason it's out.  Players done it and don't seem to give a f**k who knows.

Well you obviously know more and if what you're saying is true, then that's a whole different ball game and indeed illegal..

Those 2/3rds should never pull on the jersey again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 23, 2016, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 23, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 23, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
This Cloak and dagger stuff creates more rumors than it suppresses lol

TBH what I heard was that it was reasonably common knowledge that there were a few hurlers not traveling due to stag parties and other things and that Antrim would be severely weakened and that London would be a good bet.
I don't think it was any more sinister than that in so much as some of the lads playing were going to intentionally throw the game and a 2 point defeat isn't exactly downing the tools!
I was surprised at the source of such information though!
balls!!!!   2/3 starters had a lot of money on London.  Fact!!!  No matter of stag or who was missing for whatever reason. There was 15 lads on the field, dockets getting waived about the place after is the reason it's out.  Players done it and don't seem to give a f**k who knows.

Agreed I can't beleave that posters on here trying to make light of it
It's an absolute embarrassment and correct me if Imm wrong but illegal
Things are at an all time low
players not performing is one thing. Manager not preforming is another.  This is without question the worst I've ever seen or heard tell of within the county.  An embarrassment is right.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
I don't know about 2/3 but there was more than one
Putting on a jersey to represent you county and therefore your club as well and then have financial gain through illegal means is as shameful as it gets

The county board better get the perpetrators by whatever means
If this is brushed under the carpet Imm going to no more matches end of 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
so was this happening in the last few games or were we just shit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 23, 2016, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
I don't know about 2/3 but there was more than one
Putting on a jersey to represent you county and therefore your club as well and then have financial gain through illegal means is as shameful as it gets

The county board better get the perpetrators by whatever means
If this is brushed under the carpet Imm going to no more matches end of

mmmmm if its more than 1 then surely 2/3 is a good estimate  :P lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 23, 2016, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 01:24:05 PM
I don't know about 2/3 but there was more than one
Putting on a jersey to represent you county and therefore your club as well and then have financial gain through illegal means is as shameful as it gets

The county board better get the perpetrators by whatever means
If this is brushed under the carpet Imm going to no more matches end of

mmmmm if its more than 1 then surely 2/3 is a good estimate  :P lol

Sorry I read it as two thirds of the squad
My fault
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
so was this happening in the last few games or were we just shit?

That's very hard to know isn't it
The truth is very cloudy and the players that bust a gut will get tared with the same brush
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 23, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
Pull the team out of competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 23, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
Pull the team out of competition.

Imm finding it hard for an argument against that
I bring my kid to some matches and he looks up to some of our county players
I haven't the guts to tell him what's happening at the minute
It's a slap in the face for everyone involved in juvenile development squads to

Sickening the whole thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on March 23, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Insider betting, drugs and a bad manager. Why would any self respecting player want to play for Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 23, 2016, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 23, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
Pull the team out of competition.

I'd tend to disagree with you on this one, while understanding your reasoning. However, in a situation like this you might well be right. Surely  at the very least the sponsors would have some recourse?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 23, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
I wonder how will the gpa approach it?, it seems to be as close to indefensible as you can get. I presume it will be all over the media tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 23, 2016, 02:59:54 PM
think thats me done with supporting this county set up at senior level.

wasting my time traveling to games when its now evident that some of the players dont give a f**k about the jersey and would actually bet against themselves. unreal.

Its not them all, i have spoke to a few lads this past few months in the league campaign who genuinely love playing for antrim. it saddens me for the likes of them who are being let down by those who drag them down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 23, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 23, 2016, 02:59:54 PM
think thats me done with supporting this county set up at senior level.

wasting my time traveling to games when its now evident that some of the players dont give a f**k about the jersey and would actually bet against themselves. unreal.

Its not them all, i have spoke to a few lads this past few months in the league campaign who genuinely love playing for antrim. it saddens me for the likes of them who are being let down by those who drag them down.

Thats the very reason the guilty players need to be named and shamed and probably banned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 23, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on March 23, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Insider betting, drugs and a bad manager. Why would any self respecting player want to play for Antrim?

Drugs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 23, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on March 23, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Insider betting, drugs and a bad manager. Why would any self respecting player want to play for Antrim?

Drugs?

Salbutamol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 04:03:16 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 23, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 23, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on March 23, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Insider betting, drugs and a bad manager. Why would any self respecting player want to play for Antrim?

Drugs?

Salbutamol

Certainly wasn't performance enhancing drugs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 23, 2016, 04:10:56 PM
performance enhancing drugs would defeat the purpose if you are backing the other team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on March 23, 2016, 05:02:53 PM
I am disappointed and angry to have heard this last night. Do these players have no pride to wear the Antrim jersey, I would have given my eye teeth for the opportunity to represent my county.

I sincerely hope it was only a couple of players and that none of our management were involved.

The players need thrown off the panel asap
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 23, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
I think we are going to have bigger issues here than players off the panel. the problem being that every man and their dog has heard about it. you can say we shouldn't speak about it on a public forum but the cat was out of the bag well before it was mentioned on here and the fact so many know about it shows how common knowledge it is. i really fear that croke park will get involved in some way over this, esp if it hits the media. Not defending what has been done but i also feel some of our players are going to made a very big example of, by all means id like to see them off the panel but thats gonna be the least of their worries i think, hope i am wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 23, 2016, 05:38:08 PM
My prediction is absolutely nothing will come of it.
Other than the further demise of Antrim county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 23, 2016, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 23, 2016, 05:38:08 PM
My prediction is absolutely nothing will come of it.
Other than the further demise of Antrim county hurling.

Well if that's the case they can take someone else's money and sell the half time draw tickets to someone else
If nothing is done Imm outta here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2016, 05:57:04 PM
I'm sure it's not the first time or first county but at a time when Antrim hurling is at an all time low. Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
‘Match-fixing occurs ‘when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.
online gambling is the way forward am told.  f**king snakes.  Makes my blood boil thinking about this. The great players within my own club who have played for the county.  Don't think you'd have seen Aidan Mc Carry or Sean Paul Mc Killop do the likes of, it use to be a honor to pull on the county colors.  Now you've some of these lads that are happy with a bit of free gear and don't bother there arse.   f**king shame on you!!!   And I've a small feeling that a few lads have been watching this forum pretty closely for the naming and shaming we've talked about.  Or so am told. I'd say the smart men involved are shiting there pants now at the thought of it.  Not so smart now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.
online gambling is the way forward am told.  f**king snakes.  Makes my blood boil thinking about this. The great players within my own club who have played for the county.  Don't think you'd have seen Aidan Mc Carry or Sean Paul Mc Killop do the likes of, it use to be a honor to pull on the county colors.  Now you've some of these lads that are happy with a bit of free gear and don't bother there arse.   f**king shame on you!!!   And I've a small feeling that a few lads have been watching this forum pretty closely for the naming and shaming we've talked about.  Or so am told. I'd say the smart men involved are shiting there pants now at the thought of it.  Not so smart now.

as much as I agree with you SG, these guys will feel smart until someone actually comes out and names them. They are getting away scot free until they are outed.
BTW has anyone thought of the legal implications of this? Is it fraud? I think they might have a case to answer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 24, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.
online gambling is the way forward am told.  f**king snakes.  Makes my blood boil thinking about this. The great players within my own club who have played for the county.  Don't think you'd have seen Aidan Mc Carry or Sean Paul Mc Killop do the likes of, it use to be a honor to pull on the county colors.  Now you've some of these lads that are happy with a bit of free gear and don't bother there arse.   f**king shame on you!!!   And I've a small feeling that a few lads have been watching this forum pretty closely for the naming and shaming we've talked about.  Or so am told. I'd say the smart men involved are shiting there pants now at the thought of it.  Not so smart now.

as much as I agree with you SG, these guys will feel smart until someone actually comes out and names them. They are getting away scot free until they are outed.
BTW has anyone thought of the legal implications of this? Is it fraud? I think they might have a case to answer

I'm sure the Bookies would be interested in looking into the legal aspect.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 24, 2016, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.
online gambling is the way forward am told.  f**king snakes.  Makes my blood boil thinking about this. The great players within my own club who have played for the county.  Don't think you'd have seen Aidan Mc Carry or Sean Paul Mc Killop do the likes of, it use to be a honor to pull on the county colors.  Now you've some of these lads that are happy with a bit of free gear and don't bother there arse.   f**king shame on you!!!   And I've a small feeling that a few lads have been watching this forum pretty closely for the naming and shaming we've talked about.  Or so am told. I'd say the smart men involved are shiting there pants now at the thought of it.  Not so smart now.

as much as I agree with you SG, these guys will feel smart until someone actually comes out and names them. They are getting away scot free until they are outed.
BTW has anyone thought of the legal implications of this? Is it fraud? I think they might have a case to answer

Exactly, all the chat on here only serves to feed their ego. Name & Shame them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2016, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 24, 2016, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on March 23, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 23, 2016, 07:32:51 PM
'Match-fixing occurs 'when a player or referee deliberately under-performs during a sporting contest to ensure that one team loses or draws the match' (Source: Hill, 2013)

Perhaps Paddy Power should release the footage of the alleged persons that placed the bets.

Absolute disgrace.

Manager does not seem to be able to command the respect of the players but I'm sure it's not easy when some players have no respect for themselves.

Should be fully exposed and dealt with accordingly.
online gambling is the way forward am told.  f**king snakes.  Makes my blood boil thinking about this. The great players within my own club who have played for the county.  Don't think you'd have seen Aidan Mc Carry or Sean Paul Mc Killop do the likes of, it use to be a honor to pull on the county colors.  Now you've some of these lads that are happy with a bit of free gear and don't bother there arse.   f**king shame on you!!!   And I've a small feeling that a few lads have been watching this forum pretty closely for the naming and shaming we've talked about.  Or so am told. I'd say the smart men involved are shiting there pants now at the thought of it.  Not so smart now.

as much as I agree with you SG, these guys will feel smart until someone actually comes out and names them. They are getting away scot free until they are outed.
BTW has anyone thought of the legal implications of this? Is it fraud? I think they might have a case to answer

Exactly, all the chat on here only serves to feed their ego. Name & Shame them.

As much of a disgrace as this is, anyone who is thinking of naming people on here would need to make sure that they are 100% of what they are posting and have something to back it up.

While I agree with the sentiment and the feelings around this whole issue, these guys have lives outside of Antrim hurling.

I would have thought that the way to deal with this was through your club, if you have any information other than hearing third party etc then take it to you club chairman and have him raise it with our County Sec or with the county executive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Bookies aside and lads betting against themselves while playing (which is illegal, first an foremost) was anyone, considering the results lately surprised at getting beat in London having went over the day before (not like they were locked up and off drink) and looking at London's results lately compared to ours, I wasn't shocked at all!!

I just annoyed no one sent me a text to get on London as we had players out and injured  :). Now that's a smiley face
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Bookies aside and lads betting against themselves while playing (which is illegal, first an foremost) was anyone, considering the results lately surprised at getting beat in London having went over the day before (not like they were locked up and off drink) and looking at London's results lately compared to ours, I wasn't shocked at all!!

I just annoyed no one sent me a text to get on London as we had players out and injured  :). Now that's a smiley face

I got a txt but unfortunately the game had already started  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Bookies aside and lads betting against themselves while playing (which is illegal, first an foremost) was anyone, considering the results lately surprised at getting beat in London having went over the day before (not like they were locked up and off drink) and looking at London's results lately compared to ours, I wasn't shocked at all!!

I just annoyed no one sent me a text to get on London as we had players out and injured  :). Now that's a smiley face

Added factor that London still had something to play for as if West Meath beat Carlow they would be in the play off. I think the fair assessment would be disappointed but not surprised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: MoChara on March 24, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Bookies aside and lads betting against themselves while playing (which is illegal, first an foremost) was anyone, considering the results lately surprised at getting beat in London having went over the day before (not like they were locked up and off drink) and looking at London's results lately compared to ours, I wasn't shocked at all!!

I just annoyed no one sent me a text to get on London as we had players out and injured  :). Now that's a smiley face

Added factor that London still had something to play for as if West Meath beat Carlow they would be in the play off. I think the fair assessment would be disappointed but not surprised.

I'll go with that, think yes everyone should be mighty pissed off at these revelations but, it was handy to mask our failings' against teams we should be beating.... My view at the start of season was simple, win league and Christy ring cup!! We won't do that in two years nevermind this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Mr2 what a load of dribble
We lost by 2 points
Now do you honestly think that the players that had money on us to lose where trying as hard as the other players
If they where we might have got over the line
I find you last post laughable
Now you seem dissapointed at not getting the chance of making a few quid of antrims misfortunes
Your some man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Mr2 what a load of dribble
We lost by 2 points
Now do you honestly think that the players that had money on us to lose where trying as hard as the other players
If they where we might have got over the line
I find you last post laughable
Now you seem dissapointed at not getting the chance of making a few quid of antrims misfortunes
Your some man

Yeah have to agree MR2 and I know you are trying to be firmly tongue in cheek with it, but I dont think expressing disappointment about not getting in on it is the way to go here.

Hard to see how any 'player' in their right mind would want to bet against their own team. But couple this with the drinking and lack of commitment currently and we are in a serious serious position here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 11:48:04 AM
Regardless of the game meaning nothing to Antrim on the league table.  It should have meant something to them on a pride front.  Also if they cared enough to get staying around with Cdall players coming back. Should they not have been pushing to get seen as good enough or actually caring and wanting to be apart of it.  There is absolutely no way to dress this up for me am sorry.  Shame on them and anyone who jokes or makes light of it.  Shame on you!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Anyone fancy PM me the names of the alleged "men"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Anyone fancy PM me the names of the alleged "men"
for what purpose?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2016, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Mr2 what a load of dribble
We lost by 2 points
Now do you honestly think that the players that had money on us to lose where trying as hard as the other players
If they where we might have got over the line
I find you last post laughable
Now you seem dissapointed at not getting the chance of making a few quid of antrims misfortunes
Your some man

??
Honestly

Tongue firmly in cheek.... Smiley face and all that.... But I not overly surprised we were beat considering the performances v Derry, Westmeath and Carlow? Match them against London's results and our team missing players for Sundays game.... But hey stick your head in the sand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Anyone fancy PM me the names of the alleged "men"
for what purpose?

noseyness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Anyone fancy PM me the names of the alleged "men"
for what purpose?

noseyness

Haha at least you're honest!

I say get the names of these dirty rotten low down tramps up here and let's give them some grief. I'm f**king fuming. f**k them, throw them to the wolves I say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 01:10:11 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on March 24, 2016, 12:46:20 PM
Anyone fancy PM me the names of the alleged "men"
for what purpose?

noseyness

LoL   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

SG can you confirm if management are/are not involved in this? I hope to god they're not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2016, 01:36:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/battleship5-465x361.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

SG can you confirm if management are/are not involved in this? I hope to god they're not
Jesus come on now.   Management was nothing to do with this.   Wonder it's not his fault all the same  :o. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 24, 2016, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

SG can you confirm if management are/are not involved in this? I hope to god they're not
Jesus come on now.   Management was nothing to do with this.   Wonder it's not his fault all the same  :o.

Oh pulleese  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:56:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 24, 2016, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

SG can you confirm if management are/are not involved in this? I hope to god they're not
Jesus come on now.   Management was nothing to do with this.   Wonder it's not his fault all the same  :o.

Oh pulleese  ::)
to far? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on March 24, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

SG can you confirm if management are/are not involved in this? I hope to god they're not
Jesus come on now.   Management was nothing to do with this.   Wonder it's not his fault all the same  :o.

Now now, i wasn't heading that direction. I just want to be able to kick others back into touch who may circulate rumours like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 24, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Am not posting names.  But am told the county are aware of it. So let's see.   The messages I've got about this is unreal.  There's some panic on I'll tell you that much.

christ we love a good panic in antrim
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2016, 02:42:21 PM
From what I've been told these boys can expect a visit from paddy  power and his mates in the not too distant future.  ;)

A full investigation is under way at the behest of the county management also. That should put any scurrilous rumours that the management were involved in this to bed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2016, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2016, 02:42:21 PM
From what I've been told these boys can expect a visit from paddy  power and his mates in the not too distant future.  ;)

A full investigation is under way at the behest of the county management also. That should put any scurrilous rumours that the management were involved in this to bed.

Since it is only rumours at this point I dont see how this will stop anything. Regardless who has requested it.

So whether they like it or not the whole set up is being tarnished with this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 02:54:52 PM
Hardly rumors when two players have dropped themselves and are running of to the states over it???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2016, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 02:54:52 PM
Hardly rumors when two players have dropped themselves and are running of to the states over it???
I believe the term "shitting a brick" can be used in this particular situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on March 24, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
Good riddance to them
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2016, 03:14:33 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 02:54:52 PM
Hardly rumors when two players have dropped themselves and are running of to the states over it???
I believe the term "shitting a brick" can be used in this particular situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 04:05:32 PM
A few guys (from 2 clubs I know of) will depart the squad. Quietly.
Otherwise this will be left to dissappear.
How can it be proven in an amateur sport?
Ask yourself in who's interests would it be to blow this open?
Nobody really!
But the stink will linger ie who wants to be associated with this cabal of players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
To my knowledge paddy power has been approached for print outs of the bets and for online user names and so on.   Nothing comes from it other than bad press.   But it should be aired and those involved dropped and suspended. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2016, 04:11:31 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
To my knowledge paddy power has been approached for print outs of the bets and for online user names and so on.   Nothing comes from it other than bad press.   But it should be aired and those involved dropped and suspended.

Was Paddy the only one taking bets on this game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 24, 2016, 04:12:02 PM
i dont think this will go away at all, its pretty serious stuff to throw a match that costs a bookie money. They will not let this lie at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 24, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
To my knowledge paddy power has been approached for print outs of the bets and for online user names and so on.   Nothing comes from it other than bad press.   But it should be aired and those involved dropped and suspended.

Surely in these days of data protection you just cant ring up a betting company and ask for details on their betting records and client information?

I would have thought there would be legal aspects to have been gone through first before this was even an option.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
I doubt they would have been stupid enough to actually place the bet themselves or use their own online accounts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 24, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 24, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
I doubt they would have been stupid enough to actually place the bet themselves or use their own online accounts

Well if some are waving dockets about after the game I wouldn't be so sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 24, 2016, 04:34:54 PM
Well given no one is naming names (or using initials) I think its safe to assume no Johnnies lads were involved !! 😁😁
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 24, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
To my knowledge paddy power has been approached for print outs of the bets and for online user names and so on.   Nothing comes from it other than bad press.   But it should be aired and those involved dropped and suspended.

Surely in these days of data protection you just cant ring up a betting company and ask for details on their betting records and client information?

I would have thought there would be legal aspects to have been gone through first before this was even an option.
for something like this am pretty sure if it was Antrim county board and made the situation clear that they would do all they could for them. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 24, 2016, 04:36:03 PM
 
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 24, 2016, 04:34:54 PM
Well given no one is naming names (or using initials) I think its safe to assume no Johnnies lads were involved !! 😁😁
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 24, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 24, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 24, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
I doubt they would have been stupid enough to actually place the bet themselves or use their own online accounts

Well if some are waving dockets about after the game I wouldn't be so sure!

:-\

Maybe not then ! It's not the first time I have heard of it with Antrim players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
If someone is waving a docket there is no trail to follow.

No bookmaker will be giving anyone any customer details.

If you understand bookmakers or business - you will know it's not in their interests to have this exposed either. If punters don't trust the integrity of the sport then they don't gamble. No bookie wants that!

It'll be dealt with internally as that's all can be done.
And it will be done quietly because it can't be proved.

So as I say, again, the only real loser is Antrim county hurling.
Who'd wanna know anything about that squad now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 24, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
If someone is waving a docket there is no trail to follow.

No bookmaker will be giving anyone any customer details.

If you understand bookmakers or business - you will know it's not in their interests to have this exposed either. If punters don't trust the integrity of the sport then they don't gamble. No bookie wants that!

It'll be dealt with internally as that's all can be done.
And it will be done quietly because it can't be proved.

So as I say, again, the only real loser is Antrim county hurling.
Who'd wanna know anything about that squad now!
I believe that was one punter in the big smoke.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
If someone is waving a docket there is no trail to follow.

No bookmaker will be giving anyone any customer details.

If you understand bookmakers or business - you will know it's not in their interests to have this exposed either. If punters don't trust the integrity of the sport then they don't gamble. No bookie wants that!

It'll be dealt with internally as that's all can be done.
And it will be done quietly because it can't be proved.

So as I say, again, the only real loser is Antrim county hurling.
Who'd wanna know anything about that squad now!

Don't know about that
Ask Bruce grobalear or fashanhu or those jockeys that where in court two years ago
Bigger money at stake with those cases might make a difference compared to Antrim scenario
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 24, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 24, 2016, 04:48:01 PM
If someone is waving a docket there is no trail to follow.

No bookmaker will be giving anyone any customer details.

If you understand bookmakers or business - you will know it's not in their interests to have this exposed either. If punters don't trust the integrity of the sport then they don't gamble. No bookie wants that!

It'll be dealt with internally as that's all can be done.
And it will be done quietly because it can't be proved.

So as I say, again, the only real loser is Antrim county hurling.
Who'd wanna know anything about that squad now!

Don't know about that
Ask Bruce grobalear or fashanhu or those jockeys that where in court two years ago
Bigger money at stake with those cases might make a difference compared to Antrim scenario

They were only pursued & prosecuted - and by the courts - because the real target was the organised crime group behind it.
All of which was on an international scale of magnitude much greater than a flutter on a division 3 hurling match.

SiE - I prefer to think it's my business acumen not gambling! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 24, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Is this what happens when you are off this forum for a few days!!! What the suffering hell is going on. Just when you think you can go no lower Antrim always surprise you. I know one current member of the Antrim squad and I refuse to believe he had anything to do with this given the level of sacrifice I have seen him make to become a county player. If guys were waving betting slips around a losing changing room I am surprised there was not not blood on the floor. Disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 24, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Is this what happens when you are off this forum for a few days!!! What the suffering hell is going on. Just when you think you can go no lower Antrim always surprise you. I know one current member of the Antrim squad and I refuse to believe he had anything to do with this given the level of sacrifice I have seen him make to become a county player. If guys were waving betting slips around a losing changing room I am surprised there was not not blood on the floor. Disgrace.
To be fair it isn't the vast majority of the squad. Just a handful. I'd expect a clear out of the current squad anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
And who do you expect to replace these players? Because from what I've heard beting is the least of the managers problems wirh certain picture messages circulating!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 09:12:34 AM
And who do you expect to replace these players? Because from what I've heard beting is the least of the managers problems wirh certain picture messages circulating!!

Hurlingballs, again 2nd post in and it is of a personal nature.

Please take that post down.

This is a hurling forum for discussion around hurling matters, leave the personal stuff out of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 09:16:31 AM
yeah. That's nonsense. Why don't you ask the person it was supposed to have been sent to.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 09:17:52 AM
It is in no way personal at all, I know it was not nonsense at all as I know a few people with the picture
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2016, 09:23:52 AM
how isnt it personal? ffs sure why dont we find out who you are and then start posting stuff up about you!

Whilst you may claim to have some sort of knowledge about someones personal life it doesnt give you the right to post it up on a public forum for people to see.

This is a a GAA forum, not a whatsapp group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 09:27:58 AM
I'm quite well aware what this group entails! The picture in question is hurling related and no way personal. Unless to the people involved in the "joke"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 25, 2016, 09:42:34 AM
Whilst there was something quite cathartic about the anger and disgust in regard to the  betting incident, it seems some (in defence of that behaviour) want to muddy waters and have a race to the bottom  :-\

Classy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 25, 2016, 09:42:34 AM
Whilst there was something quite cathartic about the anger and disgust in regard to the  betting incident, it seems some (in defence of that behaviour) want to muddy waters and have a race to the bottom  :-\

Classy

+1

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 09:17:52 AM
It is in no way personal at all, I know it was not nonsense at all as I know a few people with the picture
have you seen the picture as it seems to have disappeared when asked for evidential purposes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
I have heard from a number of people who have it! Someone in his position should not be having gripes at boys he then expects to come back and play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
Like I said previously,  it's a fabrication. Utter scurrilous nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)

SIE

You seem to be taking a bit of satisfaction out of the fact there is some investigation going on rather than being embarrassed that this was occurring in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)

SIE

You seem to be taking a bit of satisfaction out of the fact there is some investigation going on rather than being embarrassed that this was occurring in the first place.
I've no idea what angle you're coming from here. . It's embarrassing for everyone that has anything to do with antrim gaa. Be that playing, coaching, supporting or whatever. I had taken that for granted. I didn't really think it was necessary to post it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)

SIE

You seem to be taking a bit of satisfaction out of the fact there is some investigation going on rather than being embarrassed that this was occurring in the first place.

Exactly
SIE are you heading up this investigation
Have the bookies got the law or the gambling commission involved. Are there prosecutions on the way
I don't think you know as much as your suggesting. All this wait and see there gonna get it stuff, Imm not buying it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 11:01:09 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)

SIE

You seem to be taking a bit of satisfaction out of the fact there is some investigation going on rather than being embarrassed that this was occurring in the first place.
I've no idea what angle you're coming from here. . It's embarrassing for everyone that has anything to do with antrim gaa. Be that playing, coaching, supporting or whatever. I had taken that for granted. I didn't really think it was necessary to post it.

No angle just an observation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
My biggest concern about this right now is that everyone isn't put on the same boat.  It was a younger lad on the squad who hadn't hurled much for his county that brought the whole thing to light, as long as everyone other than the 3 who everyone knows by now doesn't get tarred with the same brush what else is for it but try to get ready for a Christy Ring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
My biggest concern about this right now is that everyone isn't put on the same boat.  It was a younger lad on the squad who hadn't hurled much for his county that brought the whole thing to light, as long as everyone other than the 3 who everyone knows by now doesn't get tarred with the same brush what else is for it but try to get ready for a Christy Ring.

Did you read the Irish news today Justin MC Carhty is talking about some our players that are supposed to be axed in relation to Antrims assault on the Christy Ring cup
He also says PJ will learn a lot from county management..... He certainly learned a lot this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 11:32:49 AM
My biggest concern about this right now is that everyone isn't put on the same boat.  It was a younger lad on the squad who hadn't hurled much for his county that brought the whole thing to light, as long as everyone other than the 3 who everyone knows by now doesn't get tarred with the same brush what else is for it but try to get ready for a Christy Ring.

Did you read the Irish news today Justin MC Carhty is talking about some our players that are supposed to be axed in relation to Antrims assault on the Christy Ring cup
He also says PJ will learn a lot from county management..... He certainly learned a lot this week
f**k he did.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
a lot of lessons learned is right. Maybe people wont be so quick to criticise others without knowing the full depth of the problems.

Its yet another sorry story in our county, one i might add that had a fan fare of new people come in to change things. Nothing has changed at all. You go on the football thread and they are saying that the hurlers get all the money etc etc.

Theres nothing harmonious in this county at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 12:16:02 PM
Good luck to St Louis this Monday in the final of the Paddy Buggy cup in Thurles
Imm heading down to cheer them on as are a lot of Dunloy fans
SG and SIE are you heading down as there's good LG players starting as well
There up against abbey CBS so it won't be easy but they are a great squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:59:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:52:55 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 09:26:29 AM
Plane tickets bought to the USA for certain Antrim hurlers then.
One wonders why the sudden rush :)

I think some people are reading to many spy novels. They where betting illegally, they didn't whack the prime minister  and blow up MI6 when the where in London
I would say they where heading off anyway
Oh yeah, it was pre-planned. The oul spending money got a boost alright. They won't be allowed to hurl any more in the states as they would be here, if this investigation proves them guilty. who'd want them on their team anyway? Could you trust them? I mean, there's always money to be made at the cost of your team mates. Right?  I'd say that'll be the least of their worries though  ;)

SIE

You seem to be taking a bit of satisfaction out of the fact there is some investigation going on rather than being embarrassed that this was occurring in the first place.

Exactly
SIE are you heading up this investigation
Have the bookies got the law or the gambling commission involved. Are there prosecutions on the way
I don't think you know as much as your suggesting. All this wait and see there gonna get it stuff, Imm not buying it.
You don't have to buy into anything. Sure it would have been better if nothing had been said then it would all have been alright. Just sit about until it goes away. Isn't that right nah? Thas how it appears from your first few posts on the matter. I'm glad it's out in the public domain. For one of might make someone else thinking about doing it think twice. A good thing? No?

I'm not involved in any investigation. But I do know people that are. My point to yer man was about this snapchat s**te that's being circulated on the rounds. I asked a few boys who messaged me about it to show me the proof. Of course none has been forth coming. If I see the proof of the aledged message then my point of view would of course be different. Until then it's made up nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 12:16:02 PM
Good luck to St Louis this Monday in the final of the Paddy Buggy cup in Thurles
Imm heading down to cheer them on as are a lot of Dunloy fans
SG and SIE are you heading down as there's good LG players starting as well
There up against abbey CBS so it won't be easy but they are a great squad
I'll be in Dublin. My young boy will be at it. He goes to St Louis. I believe there are coach loads of them heading down. It's great to see all the local schools doing well in the oul hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 12:16:02 PM
Good luck to St Louis this Monday in the final of the Paddy Buggy cup in Thurles
Imm heading down to cheer them on as are a lot of Dunloy fans
SG and SIE are you heading down as there's good LG players starting as well
There up against abbey CBS so it won't be easy but they are a great squad
I'll be in Dublin. My young boy will be at it. He goes to St Louis. I believe there are coach loads of them heading down. It's great to see all the local schools doing well in the oul hurling.

Its great to see. theres a serious crowd from Dunloy heading down on sunday for it to stay over.

I met them all after their semi final win in the pub in Dunloy and they are a great bunch of lads. you can see that they all get on so well together and have a good bond. Would love to see them win the final!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Always so quick to defend sie, not one person mentioned snap chat. It was infact a watsapp group and plenty off people have the proof. But sure argued away there about facts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Always so quick to defend sie, not one person mentioned snap chat. It was infact a watsapp group and plenty off people have the proof. But sure argued away there about facts
balls.  There's always clowns to make shit up.  Smokie himself said it was balls.  So spread your shit somewhere else
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Always so quick to defend sie, not one person mentioned snap chat. It was infact a watsapp group and plenty off people have the proof. But sure argued away there about facts

Then get a pic and put it up!

I've heard this story also but that is what it is until somebody proves it, a story without proof, that could have serious implications for PJOM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Always so quick to defend sie, not one person mentioned snap chat. It was infact a watsapp group and plenty off people have the proof. But sure argued away there about facts
There you go. I was told it was a snap chat by one boy and and a whatsapp by another. If they're gong to make up stuff they should at least get their story sorted before putting out there.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Right so you know nothing but hearsay on the investigation but your on here predicting the outcome

I disapproved of this being discussed on a public forum and expressed my view later when you decided our dirty linen should be washed in public
Your opinion on anything doesn't really hold any substance after your post the last few years
Our current manager expressed the same view but was man enough to hold his hands up and apologise in a newspaper
I requested you do the same thing but it seems your not made of the same stuff

When you come on here and say you where wrong about certain people you lambasted and there where other forces at play then I might change my mind

Your supposed info on the current situation I take with a pinch of salt because if these past inaccurate negative comments

And spare me the MOVE ON speech as your pretty good and digging it up the past when it suits you



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Always so quick to defend sie, not one person mentioned snap chat. It was infact a watsapp group and plenty off people have the proof. But sure argued away there about facts
balls.  There's always clowns to make shit up.  Smokie himself said it was balls.  So spread your shit somewhere else
I heard it was a snap chat. Now it's whatsapp. It's a load of cra........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Right so you know nothing but hearsay on the investigation but your on here predicting the outcome

I disapproved of this being discussed on a public forum and expressed my view later when you decided our dirty linen should be washed in public
Your opinion on anything doesn't really hold any substance after your post the last few years
Our current manager expressed the same view but was man enough to hold his hands up and apologise in a newspaper
I requested you do the same thing but it seems your not made of the same stuff

When you come on here and say you where wrong about certain people you lambasted and there where other forces at play then I might change my mind

Your supposed info on the current situation I take with a pinch of salt because if these past inaccurate negative comments

And spare me the MOVE ON speech as your pretty good and digging it up the past when it suits you
I said if. Small word, easily missed.  ;)

And like I've said on here a few times now, I know what kevin ryan did and how he treated players at our club, and indeed our club as a whole.  I'll not be apologising to him or you. Pj apologised about how he didn't know how tough it was to manage the county. That's a different matter. Nothing else.

You seem besotted by Kevin ryan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Right so you know nothing but hearsay on the investigation but your on here predicting the outcome

I disapproved of this being discussed on a public forum and expressed my view later when you decided our dirty linen should be washed in public
Your opinion on anything doesn't really hold any substance after your post the last few years
Our current manager expressed the same view but was man enough to hold his hands up and apologise in a newspaper
I requested you do the same thing but it seems your not made of the same stuff

When you come on here and say you where wrong about certain people you lambasted and there where other forces at play then I might change my mind

Your supposed info on the current situation I take with a pinch of salt because if these past inaccurate negative comments

And spare me the MOVE ON speech as your pretty good and digging it up the past when it suits you
I said if. Small word, easily missed.  ;)

And like I've said on here a few times now, I know what kevin ryan did and how he treated players at our club, and indeed our club as a whole.  I'll not be apologising to him or you. Pj apologised about how he didn't know how tough it was to manage the county. That's a different matter. Nothing else.

You seem besotted by Kevin ryan.

That doesn't sound like an apology or an attmitance of wrongfull blame
So I'll just take that PJ with all his flaws Is twice the man you are and he has my respect for what he said
You don't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Wrongful blame.  Lol. I suggest you read my post again and stop trying to twist things to fulfill your personal vendetta against me. You're obsessed lad.   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Wrongful blame.  Lol.  ;)

wrongful
ˈrɒŋfʊl,-f(ə)l/
adjective
(of an act) not fair, just, or legal.
"he is suing the police for wrongful arrest"
synonyms:   unjustified, unwarranted, unjust, unfair, undue, undeserved, uncalled for, unreasonable, unnecessary, groundless, indefensible, inappropriate, improper, unlawful, illegal, illegitimate, illicit


blame
bleɪm/
verb
1.
feel or declare that (someone or something) is responsible for a fault or wrong.

synonyms:   hold responsible, hold accountable, hold liable, place/lay the blame
There you go sorry you struggling with these words I forget who Imm dealing with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:30:50 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:20:06 PM
Wrongful blame.  Lol. I suggest you read my post again and stop trying to twist things to fulfill your personal vendetta against me. You're obsessed lad.   ;)

You had a personal vendetta going for a while yourself so you would know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:31:11 PM
No. You aren't paying attention. I'm posting no more on this. You're embarrassing yourself enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:31:11 PM
No. You aren't paying attention. I'm posting no more on this. You're embarrassing yourself enough.

You have embarrassed yourself to ,doesn't stop you repeating it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
No smoke without fire or should I say Smokie? I think that was the gist off the message was it? I'll mention nothing more on the matter! But it will be interesting to see what happens in coming weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
No smoke without fire or should I say Smokie? I think that was the gist off the message was it? I'll mention nothing more on the matter! But it will be interesting to see what happens in coming weeks
why don't you ask Smokie?  I mean, he is allegedly the receiver of the message, correct? Surely he'd know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
A busy week on the old Gaa board this week lads  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 03:07:00 PM
A busy week on the old Gaa board this week lads  ;D

Better than Corrie or Brookside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 25, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
No smoke without fire or should I say Smokie? I think that was the gist off the message was it? I'll mention nothing more on the matter! But it will be interesting to see what happens in coming weeks
why don't you ask Smokie?  I mean, he is allegedly the receiver of the message, correct? Surely he'd know.

Ah here now lads, you've lost me altogether.... What's Smokie McKillop got to do with this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on March 25, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 03:28:07 PM
A message was sent on Thursday of croke park with the caption it's all gone up in "smokie" and then the players are supposed to go and play for the county and respect this man?
it was a snap chat. It was a whats app.  It's a load of crap.  PJ has called Smokie about this himself, and smokie has said its nothing more than mud slinging.    Either prove it or stop talking shite and running the whole thing lower than it already has hit this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2016, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 25, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
No smoke without fire or should I say Smokie? I think that was the gist off the message was it? I'll mention nothing more on the matter! But it will be interesting to see what happens in coming weeks
why don't you ask Smokie?  I mean, he is allegedly the receiver of the message, correct? Surely he'd know.

Ah here now lads, you've lost me altogether.... What's Smokie McKillop got to do with this?
PJ O'Mullen sent him a whatsapp asking him did he want to go halfers on a Na Piarsaigh/London double.

Excellent HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 25, 2016, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on March 25, 2016, 03:28:07 PM
A message was sent on Thursday of croke park with the caption it's all gone up in "smokie" and then the players are supposed to go and play for the county and respect this man?
No. No he didn't. The word you missed out is allegedly. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 03:58:43 PM
Would Smokie admit to getting a text or seeing a text though? What good would it do him now starting a fuss about apart from maybe and its a big maybe stopping the Dall lads returning to the county.

Were PJ & Smokie not managing & coaching a camogie team together a few years back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 25, 2016, 04:06:55 PM
2,282,458 Views and counting....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 05:09:22 PM
Is anyone disputing the fact that there was no real shock in getting beat by London considering the results each team has had so far? Is it disappointing that some players bet against themselves? course it is and they should be off the panel and a message sent out to all clubs that this should be dealt with by their own clubs first and the possibility of CCCC getting involved...

and is anyone disputing the fact that the johnnies started a free for all cause they were getting beat by us and couldn't face it, knowing we were the kings of Belfast?

Snapchat and whatsap!! my goodness what will it become next? Pornhub?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 25, 2016, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 05:09:22 PM
Is anyone disputing the fact that there was no real shock in getting beat by London considering the results each team has had so far? Is it disappointing that some players bet against themselves? course it is and they should be off the panel and a message sent out to all clubs that this should be dealt with by their own clubs first and the possibility of CCCC getting involved...

and is anyone disputing the fact that the johnnies started a free for all cause they were getting beat by us and couldn't face it, knowing we were the kings of Belfast?

Snapchat and whatsap!! my goodness what will it become next? Pornhub?

Agree going on form London might have chinned us anyway but 3 guys betting on the other side in my eyes could contribute to a 2 point defeat
By the way what's pornhub
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 25, 2016, 05:37:21 PM
Milltown, was that game replayed or what was the story? I see we play the Johnnies so I assume they were awarded the game?

Not to my knowledge , which is strange as we were winning by 2 points before the auld tactics were pulled.... But considering the referee ran away he could have awarded it to anybody!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???

Criminal yes. Is betting on a game you are playing in not illegal? Let alone betting on your own team to lose when you can influence the result. Is that not committing fraud? I would have thought so.

Trust me, nowt will happen.... The results have went the way the form has been so far....would they have had 25 quid on it??

Not that this is PJ's fault but I would be taking players off if o thought they weren't trying  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 09:16:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.

There's been worse.... Derry winning ulster championships back in the 90's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 09:16:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.

There's been worse.... Derry winning ulster championships back in the 90's

That Derry side of back then would have beaten the pick of Antrim and London at the weekend.

This I think is ome of of not the worst result in recent Antrim hurling history, let's not let the scandal hide the fact that we are a shambles.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.
(http://temp_thoughts_resize.s3.amazonaws.com/2d/bcb9001ffc11e49e0cdd9a1eb789a3/azftg.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 25, 2016, 09:37:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 09:16:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.

There's been worse.... Derry winning ulster championships back in the 90's

I remember hearing of an Antrim player betting against Antrim in an Ulster final v Derry - that Derry won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 10:57:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Why what have heard?? Surely the referee seen what happened?? No? Apparently one of our lads ended up with 8 stitches' from a dirty  strike from behind.... And the referee apparently ran away!! Not sure as I wasn't there so only going on hearsay which is silly, no way would a referee run away... Who was the referee??

By all accounts the accounts been given seem to be quite selective. There were dirty strokes by Naomh Gall from the outset. Jim Peoples near obtained serious knee damage from one such stroke early on whilst the fella who ended up with an unfortunate knock wasn't slow in coming forward himself. Naomh Gall need to realise that they are no different than any club because of their past achievements. They cannot swing the stick as they wish and expect to be protected when teams fight fire with fire. It was a typical early season game. people trying to lay down a marker and it was a derby. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

Exactly. .... I heard one of our lads put a controversial johnnies lad on his hole and he reacted by dirty joe'ing him... Melee next and then the game was abandon or the ref ran away.... Either way Last Man you're correct in how this is demeaning of Jims memorial tournament

It was unfortunate that there was a few handbags but it didn't demean the tournament. Jim would not have wanted anybody to hold back and bend the knee or to play the game as an exhibition. Jim would have wanted both teams goin at each other. It's just as well that this 'controversial' lad is better than a lot of us and takes this with a pinch of salt. He doesn't let it get to him. It's This a lad who has won all-Ireland feile, won an o'keefe cup as well as multiple minors and u21s in both codes, and represented his county with great distinction in an all Ireland final. He has went to uni and is in a great job. So many good points yet you have labelled him based on one alleged incident. Does this young lad deserve to be tainted? Is sambo a 'controversial' one. no we don't let his career to be defined by what was a shocking act and nor it should be. Are st pauls and cargin 'controversial' clubs after their riot was shown all over Ireland. No we let sleeping dogs lie. I think you need to stop this rubbish with this lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
Where next for Antrim hurling...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 10:40:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Bonamargy on March 25, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
OMG. I haven't looked on here since the weekend. This is all a bit mad. Not good at all for Antrim hurling. Could be a few criminal records come out of this, and ritely so. Embarrassing.

Criminal?? Have people lost the run of themselves???
I heard they were being hanged by the neck until dead.


Funny haha.. I'm glad you can make light of possibly one of the most serious issues in Antrim hurling in a very long time.
(http://temp_thoughts_resize.s3.amazonaws.com/2d/bcb9001ffc11e49e0cdd9a1eb789a3/azftg.jpg)

I'm perfectly pulled together. I pay my admission into Antrim games and have done as 20 plus years so I'm entitled to have an opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Thanks mb  ;) ;D ::) 8) :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Thanks mb  ;) ;D ::) 8) :o
nope he doesn't have an account
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2016, 10:55:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Thanks mb  ;) ;D ::) 8) :o


Lol...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 25, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
Where next for Antrim hurling...

I for one would be all for sending all players back to their clubs let them get on with training with the clubs.

Pick a team for the christy ring get, fulfill the commitment to that.

Use the time to complete a review of how best to move forward for next season, draft a set of proposals around the county set up for county convention and move forward from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Obviously this isn't meant for me as I never mentioned anyone's names or initial's you've brought up more and mentioned more in your last few posts... More power to your elbow... Oh wait a player from your club dirty joe'd a player from our club on the elbow and give him 8 stitches... He didn't nearly have a sore knee bit ended up with a nasty dirty stroke.... But hey defend whoever you want
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 25, 2016, 11:03:31 PM
If I were PJ I would put together a short term high intensity plan to win Christy ring.
That is - the squad training would start just right before it. (in honesty I don't know when that is)
Call the existing squad together and tell them this.
Then send them off to the clubs - with clear instructions that nobody is picked yet for the Christy Ring.
All bets are off. Pardon the pun.
The new Christy ring squad will be based on the club games between now and then. Nothing else.
(Assuming there is a run of club fixtures).
Well - excepting the guys who have ruled themselves out for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sideline watcher on March 25, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Obviously this isn't meant for me as I never mentioned anyone's names or initial's you've brought up more and mentioned more in your last few posts... More power to your elbow... Oh wait a player from your club dirty joe'd a player from our club on the elbow and give him 8 stitches... He didn't nearly have a sore knee bit ended up with a nasty dirty stroke.... But hey defend whoever you want

I used initials, ok maybe I shouldn't have but I'm sure everyone reading this post knows who it was anyhow. Supposed comments, backing something up which is outright disgusting just goes to show you mentality. As for those other names you've mentioned? Care to share?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 26, 2016, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 25, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Obviously this isn't meant for me as I never mentioned anyone's names or initial's you've brought up more and mentioned more in your last few posts... More power to your elbow... Oh wait a player from your club dirty joe'd a player from our club on the elbow and give him 8 stitches... He didn't nearly have a sore knee bit ended up with a nasty dirty stroke.... But hey defend whoever you want

I used initials, ok maybe I shouldn't have but I'm sure everyone reading this post knows who it was anyhow. Supposed comments, backing something up which is outright disgusting just goes to show you mentality. As for those other names you've mentioned? Care to share?

Once more, a presumption of innocence doesn't apply here. Somebody said he said therefore you assume its up to him to prove he didn't say it. Was there any investigation by the county? Because surely if such a comment was made there would be ramifications??? Were there any?? It is the same thing with the Naomh Gall man a few years ago. People swore he said it but rightly so unless people could prove it then that's the end of it. Everyone has let it go. Also I am not sure if a normal person would know that it was the person who initialled that carried out said stroke. Has he a history of it? Has he had a discipline problem growing up:?? Has he been guilty of dirty strokes in the past. No that's why you were wrong. What do you want this person to do. Do you think he should come out ala Bill Clinton and make a statement on last years allegation or last weeks fight. Incidents happen all the time and that's why I through some initials out. Even the 'so called' victim last week through it about and by all accounts hes down to earth and civil. There seem to be an agenda on this board. Its purpose should be constructive. Not anonoymous slandering. If I intend on besmirching someones name I will put my name up. I have no need to now as the fight last week was just that. A fight. One last point. Sambo got a massive ban for an extremely dangerous and wild action years ago by all accounts. Did he have a name for himself? No and he shouldn't. Nor should a young lad who had his choice of both county codes this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Ok..let me see, he damaged his ac joint coming up to xmas, he returned and held is place through the pre season competitions. He then had problems with the shoulder again and apparently he started training with the fire brigade. As far as I am aware PJ has got him on a program to build his shoulder up. He couldn't go to the last two games anyway, he missed the Carlow game while away on a break and he was on shift during the London weekend. He was also tied up you recall with the u21 ulster football. PJ gave him leave to play in that and games clashed with the national league. He apparently is still eager and keen to get back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 26, 2016, 09:08:20 PM
Where can we join his fan club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Ok..let me see, he damaged his ac joint coming up to xmas, he returned and held is place through the pre season competitions. He then had problems with the shoulder again and apparently he started training with the fire brigade. As far as I am aware PJ has got him on a program to build his shoulder up. He couldn't go to the last two games anyway, he missed the Carlow game while away on a break and he was on shift during the London weekend. He was also tied up you recall with the u21 ulster football. PJ gave him leave to play in that and games clashed with the national league. He apparently is still eager and keen to get back

So yeah you proved my point right there, no hurling performances to talk about for one reason or other.

Why not let the lad get some hurling done and then come back on and talk about those then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on March 26, 2016, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Ok..let me see, he damaged his ac joint coming up to xmas, he returned and held is place through the pre season competitions. He then had problems with the shoulder again and apparently he started training with the fire brigade. As far as I am aware PJ has got him on a program to build his shoulder up. He couldn't go to the last two games anyway, he missed the Carlow game while away on a break and he was on shift during the London weekend. He was also tied up you recall with the u21 ulster football. PJ gave him leave to play in that and games clashed with the national league. He apparently is still eager and keen to get back

So yeah you proved my point right there, no hurling performances to talk about for one reason or other.

Why not let the lad get some hurling done and then come back on and talk about those then.

you are a tad pompous and patronising aren't you. As I said I merely wished to defend someone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2016, 12:52:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
LOL it was clear you said the fella red carded deserved it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

Nearly as bad as you & SIE!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

Nearly as bad as you & SIE!
[/quote
I see your where your coming from but at least that's all county stuff
This sounds like pre season club gome wrong and that's it
It's a bit repetitive at this stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

Nearly as bad as you & SIE!
[/quote
I see your where your coming from but at least that's all county stuff
This sounds like pre season club gome wrong and that's it
It's a bit repetitive at this stage

Oh right, Antrim hurling thread, hmmm what will we talk about?? Pigeons?? I know lets talk about how Loughgiel and Cushendall, always waiting on each other to fail so they can have a pop at each other? Would that be repetitive?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

Nearly as bad as you & SIE!
[/quote
I see your where your coming from but at least that's all county stuff
This sounds like pre season club gome wrong and that's it
It's a bit repetitive at this stage

Oh right, Antrim hurling thread, hmmm what will we talk about?? Pigeons?? I know lets talk about how Loughgiel and Cushendall, always waiting on each other to fail so they can have a pop at each other? Would that be repetitive?

At least when we talk about the Dall & the Shams there can be a discussion. Personally I don't give a flying f**k about yer man from St Johns. If he poked somebody in a pre season game, then take his salt and move on, like the St Galls lad did. There is no need for somebody coming on here again and defending him like he did last year when he was meant to step out of line.

And sure why wouldn't we talk about the county champions & the only team to win the big yin twice  ;)

Happy Easter folks, lay off the eggs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
Another mealy-mouthed reply MR2 the StGalls lad who pulled the cowardly stroke in the 1st half received a yellow and was then substituted and didn't receive a red card......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
Another mealy-mouthed reply MR2 the StGalls lad who pulled the cowardly stroke in the 1st half received a yellow and was then substituted and didn't receive a red card......

You are wrong as the player who received the card to ask me what would he get for getting sent off, and I'll say it one more time so you can understand.... Anyone who pulls a dirty stroke is a coward... No defending it at anytime, but you continue to do so
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 27, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

Nearly as bad as you & SIE!
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I see your where your coming from but at least that's all county stuff
This sounds like pre season club gome wrong and that's it
It's a bit repetitive at this stage

Oh right, Antrim hurling thread, hmmm what will we talk about?? Pigeons?? I know lets talk about how Loughgiel and Cushendall, always waiting on each other to fail so they can have a pop at each other? Would that be repetitive?

At least when we talk about the Dall & the Shams there can be a discussion. Personally I don't give a flying f**k about yer man from St Johns. If he poked somebody in a pre season game, then take his salt and move on, like the St Galls lad did. There is no need for somebody coming on here again and defending him like he did last year when he was meant to step out of line.

And sure why wouldn't we talk about the county champions & the only team to win the big yin twice  ;)

Happy Easter folks, lay off the eggs.

Discussions usually follow the same pattern.... We are better Tha you cause we've won the All Ireland twice..... Winker is a god..... Not when he is Marked by Graffin.... Id rather have NMcM on my team, id rather have Winker....proper discussions for sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
Another mealy-mouthed reply MR2 the StGalls lad who pulled the cowardly stroke in the 1st half received a yellow and was then substituted and didn't receive a red card......

You are wrong as the player who received the card to ask me what would he get for getting sent off, and I'll say it one more time so you can understand.... Anyone who pulls a dirty stroke is a coward... No defending it at anytime, but you continue to do so
Can you write a proper sentence next time ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 27, 2016, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 09:46:21 AM
Will you two get a room that's two maybe three pages of this  s..t

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
MR2
Discussion about who should be on county teams and how they are managed are normal on forums all over the country
As are club games but knock yourself out then

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 12:51:24 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 27, 2016, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
As usual MR2 you are very selective in your condemnations, not one word have you said about the strokes pulled by the St Galls lads........?

Are you a simpleton?? I've just said our lad deserved a red card for his actions! Christ I hope you didn't go to college
Another mealy-mouthed reply MR2 the StGalls lad who pulled the cowardly stroke in the 1st half received a yellow and was then substituted and didn't receive a red card......

You are wrong, as the player who received the card  ask me what would he get for getting sent off, and I'll say it one more time so you can understand.... Anyone who pulls a dirty stroke is a coward... No defending it at anytime, but you continue to do so
Can you write a proper sentence next time ??

Fixed that... A  'to' was added with predictive text. Jesus wept

I'll write a proper sentence the next time, when you admit that said player is a coward for pulling dirty stroke....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
MR2
Discussion about who should be on county teams and how they are managed are normal on forums all over the country
As are club games but knock yourself out then

So what's your point? I was discussing a club game you numpty! There are hurling games outside of the Glens lad.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
MR2
Discussion about who should be on county teams and how they are managed are normal on forums all over the country
As are club games but knock yourself out then

So what's your point? I was discussing a club game you numpty! There are hurling games outside of the Glens lad.....
[/quote
You where discussing a free for all for three pages
]
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 09:10:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 27, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
MR2
Discussion about who should be on county teams and how they are managed are normal on forums all over the country
As are club games but knock yourself out then

So what's your point? I was discussing a club game you numpty! There are hurling games outside of the Glens lad.....
[/quote
You where discussing a free for all for three pages
]

Nope, I discussed it for about 5 posts... Someone asked me how the game went
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
St louis putting it up to the Tipperary boys I hear. A very excited young fella just texted me. Come on St louis!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
St louis putting it up to the Tipperary boys I hear. A very excited young fella just texted me. Come on St louis!!!
St.Louis look the better team so far and have yet to get into their stride.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
St louis putting it up to the Tipperary boys I hear. A very excited young fella just texted me. Come on St louis!!!
St.Louis look the better team so far and have yet to get into their stride.
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2016, 03:02:19 PM
it's very tight. Goal chances missed at either end. Not much between the two teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:03:39 PM
Is it on tg4??

I saw the lineup on twitter. Didn't expect to see a st johns man in there. Seems no end to those grahams in ahoghill either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2016, 03:10:00 PM
Yep TG4 ....both finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:14:37 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2016, 03:18:46 PM
St. Louis missing a few good scoring opportunities ....Hope it doesn't come back to bite them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on March 28, 2016, 03:24:16 PM
Good game this .  What clubs are represented on St Louis team ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:29:09 PM
Mostly dunloy. A few loughgiel. Creggan. Ahoghill and one st johns.

These boys getting on top at wrong time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:57:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
St louis putting it up to the Tipperary boys I hear. A very excited young fella just texted me. Come on St louis!!!
St.Louis look the better team so far and have yet to get into their stride.
8)
St.louis will be glad to get to extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 28, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
Extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2016, 03:36:11 PM
Extra time
Haven't bared their teeth in 2nd half. They have more than enough to beat this team if only they played like a team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 28, 2016, 03:41:32 PM
St Louis forward line certainly have the beating of their opponents, need to cut out the wides and get the ball over the bar. Still think St Louis will do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 03:45:01 PM
Just got it on here. Looks soakin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 28, 2016, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 03:45:01 PM
Just got it on here. Looks soakin.

Was a very heavy rainshower for 15 minutes in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
I think that helped the tipp team. Some big guys in there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
I think that helped the tipp team. Some big guys in there.
That's the first thing I noticed when I got it on the TV. Their no 6 is massive for that age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on March 28, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
I agree. St Louis were well on top before the rain. Need to pick up again now, before it is too late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on March 28, 2016, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 28, 2016, 03:45:01 PM
Just got it on here. Looks soakin.

A shame. A few missed frees etc etc but they did themselves and their school proud.

TG4 need new camera or to employ someone to wipe the screen - when their is rain the visibility is nearly always shocking.

Who is the St Johns player? How does that work?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Either his dad is a Jonnies man, then its nor strange... Name??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Either his dad is a Jonnies man, then its nor strange... Name??
Aye probably the mothers side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on March 28, 2016, 05:56:01 PM
The conditions suited abbey when the rain came . A stronger , bigger team .  Well done to them and hard luck to St Louis .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Either his dad is a Jonnies man, then its nor strange... Name??
Aye probably the mothers side.

Was ex galls parents son... Johnnies now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Either his dad is a Jonnies man, then its nor strange... Name??
Aye probably the mothers side.

Was ex galls parents son... Johnnies now
Knew it wouldn't take you long to suss it out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 28, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
The number 2 sean mckinley is st johns according to twitter gm which i thought odd.

Hard luck st louis. Some good players in there but unfortunately i think opposition a bit too physically strong.
Think the lad lives in Randalstown, well within the Whiterock catchment. ;-b
Either his dad is a Jonnies man, then its nor strange... Name??
Aye probably the mothers side.

Was ex galls parents son... Johnnies now
Knew it wouldn't take you long to suss it out.

I didn't out of fear want to say it!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on March 28, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
I thought maybe the story had gone, but.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepxAN4XIAArPrE.jpg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on March 28, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
Sure the CRAP get all their backpage material from this board!! Lazy journalism and all round garbage paper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
Opinions on the referee today gents? At the game everyone I talked to thought we had to work harder to get frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 28, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
I thought the referee was harsh on St Louis in the second half. One particular one against K.Molloy in the second half, I think for lying on the ball.
In saying that St Louis missed a good few chances at the start of the second half. Stopped getting the ball to the 2 corner forwards & couldn't win the 50/50 balls.
Great effort from them & prob should have won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2016, 09:46:32 PM
There were quite a few times st louis were getting their sticks held in the forwards when trying to break free - quite blatantly - and got nothing for it.I counted three or four. On the flip side i think twice in first half of extra time st louis got frees quite easily when they'd have been far better off with an advantage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 28, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
I thought maybe the story had gone, but.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepxAN4XIAArPrE.jpg

Some of the stories I've heard over the weekend about the current set up are poor to say the least, I hope they are unfounded tittle tattle.

God knows what is going on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 28, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
Opinions on the referee today gents? At the game everyone I talked to thought we had to work harder to get frees.

Very much so, I thought there was a blatant penalty in the first half which was ignored. These are important especially at this age level for confidence of the team. All over the field I thought the frees were coming easier for the southerners but we have all been there before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 28, 2016, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 28, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 28, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
I thought maybe the story had gone, but.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CepxAN4XIAArPrE.jpg

Some of the stories I've heard over the weekend about the current set up are poor to say the least, I hope they are unfounded tittle tattle.

God knows what is going on.

Yeah I have heard that players are starting to distance themselves from the set up until this betting thing is cleared up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 28, 2016, 11:24:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 28, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 28, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
Opinions on the referee today gents? At the game everyone I talked to thought we had to work harder to get frees.

Very much so, I thought there was a blatant penalty in the first half which was ignored. These are important especially at this age level for confidence of the team. All over the field I thought the frees were coming easier for the southerners but we have all been there before.

Just home form Thurles

Two things
The ref was very one sided, every time st Louis got 2 3 points up
He brought CBS right back into it with soft frees
I feel embarrassed for him
The second thing S Louis shot 3 wides at the start of the second half
If these went over I don't think CBS where coming back even with their 16 man

Fair play to the Antrim post
Maybe it's time this stuff was highlighted if the CB is gonna brush it under the table
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:28 AM
Watched the game again there. Could have won it regardless of the man in the middle, but ultimately his influence on the game was brought to bear. Livid. Very little between the two teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 29, 2016, 12:14:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:28 AM
Watched the game again there. Could have won it regardless of the man in the middle, but ultimately his influence on the game was brought to bear. Livid. Very little between the two teams
Hard to  beleave a man intrusted with a position like that would try and influence the result like he did
Trying to and succeeding in wrecking the dreams of school kids
Absolute disgrace
But let's face it - wasn't the first time and won't be the last
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 29, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 29, 2016, 12:14:35 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 12:08:28 AM
Watched the game again there. Could have won it regardless of the man in the middle, but ultimately his influence on the game was brought to bear. Livid. Very little between the two teams
Hard to  beleave a man intrusted with a position like that would try and influence the result like he did
Trying to and succeeding in wrecking the dreams of school kids
Absolute disgrace
But let's face it - wasn't the first time and won't be the last
Throughout the game I always felt St.Louis had enough to do it and we're almost certainly going to push on in extra time. Regardless of the ref i was always waiting for them to produce more of what we know they are capable of. I am sure they are gutted but it has been a great year for the school.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
There were quite a few handling errors and wides I would've have expected to see go over. It was an all ireland final and nerves looked to be playing a part in those, especially at important stages in the game. An all Ireland's hard enough to win without worrying that the referee is angling toward one team. Just too many soft handy ones for one team never mind the penalty that wasn't given. In a game of inches this is what can happen if your not the team to get the rub of the green.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 29, 2016, 11:25:21 AM
Munster venue
Munster team
So let's apoint a Munster ref
That will even it up sure
Stone cold penaltys not given
Forwards getting blatantly pulled
Very soft frees at the other end
CBS shot as many sides as St Louis
If the man in the middle had a more neutral mindset it wouldn't have reached extra time
Some of the players on display yesterday have great hurling in front of them over the years for their clubs and county
But they have been introduced early as to how  things are. I hope it doesn't dampen there ambitions
Yesterday was more sickening than what went on earlier in the week in Antrim in some respects
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 29, 2016, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 29, 2016, 11:25:21 AM
Munster venue
Munster team
So let's apoint a Munster ref
That will even it up sure
Stone cold penaltys not given
Forwards getting blatantly pulled
Very soft frees at the other end
CBS shot as many sides as St Louis
If the man in the middle had a more neutral mindset it wouldn't have reached extra time
Some of the players on display yesterday have great hurling in front of them over the years for their clubs and county
But they have been introduced early as to how  things are. I hope it doesn't dampen there ambitions
Yesterday was more sickening than what went on earlier in the week in Antrim in some respects
What I would take from it is that were things we could improve on and hopefully that might mitigate against any bias in the future. Best focus on things you actually can change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
If St Mals were in the same boat LM, I'd expect you'd be pointlessly spitting feathers like we are at the minute.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
It is a hard defeat for those involved to take because there was good chance of winning and with those small margins of frees not given makes such a difference.

But thing we also need to look at the physicality of the opposition in nearly every position they were bigger stronger and more aggressive.  Not much you can do so early in development I know but it to me there should not be such a difference in size in a relatively small county?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on March 29, 2016, 02:46:33 PM
Have just watched the colleges game there now. I had it sky +. St. Louis will be kicking themselves on 2 accounts - firstly the ref gave some very harsh decisions against them esp number 10 - was he elliot?? - they were enough to bring the Tipperary school back into it.
However on reflection and in the cold light of it - St. Louis will regret the misses they had that would have put the game out of sight - number 10 & 14 the main offenders. But these young lads will learn from the big match experience.

Physicality was certainly an issue yesterday and when weather got poor it became a bigger issue. Last year CPC had the size along with the quality which got them over the line.

All in all the last 3 years north Antrim schools have reached this final - which shows there is real talent in this part of the world.
If anyone has a formula on how u take thus talent and translate some of them into 'real' county senior players - could they share it with county board etc.

Colleges & club level have shown that we have hurlers in this part of world - county has highlighted the embarassing lack of commitment we have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 29, 2016, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
If St Mals were in the same boat LM, I'd expect you'd be pointlessly spitting feathers like we are at the minute.  :-\
Possibly but knowing some of the players fairly well I was backing them all the way, I really did expect more from them on the day and many on here know that they are certainly capable of it. There could be a no. of reasons but the ref wasn't the only one in my opinion for what little it's worth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 30, 2016, 09:01:50 AM
The more ive heard over the weekend about the county set up the worse it gets. I would say the damage thats been done cannot be undone that easy.
I would be surprised if we struggle to get a full team out for the christy ring cup. I know that some players will not be back again and dont want anything to do with it or be dragged down by those few who have tarnished our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 09:24:18 AM
I see the irish news is now covering the story. Seems to be being denied at present. Hopefully it's all just a big internet rumour but unfortunately seems to have some legs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 30, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 30, 2016, 09:01:50 AM
The more ive heard over the weekend about the county set up the worse it gets. I would say the damage thats been done cannot be undone that easy.
I would be surprised if we struggle to get a full team out for the christy ring cup. I know that some players will not be back again and dont want anything to do with it or be dragged down by those few who have tarnished our county.
If people within the camp are walking then there has to be some substance to it.  CB need to get a few serious operators working on this including someone to handle the media. Flat denials now could be seriously damaging down the line if the rumours prove to be true. Wouldn't like to be in the frame that's for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 30, 2016, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 09:24:18 AM
I see the irish news is now covering the story. Seems to be being denied at present. Hopefully it's all just a big internet rumour but unfortunately seems to have some legs.

Sadly it isnt a rumour
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 09:36:04 AM
Well hopefully the truth will come out then and nothing like this will ever happen again. It's never easy supporting antrim >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2016, 09:37:35 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 30, 2016, 09:36:41 AM
Agree Lastman
I read the CB response in the paper yesterday
Called it vicious rumours etc
I know one lad who has walked but he might come round if its dealt with better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 30, 2016, 09:49:01 AM
What player has walked on the back of this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 30, 2016, 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 09:36:04 AM
Well hopefully the truth will come out then and nothing like this will ever happen again. It's never easy supporting antrim >:(

Prob is that theres nothing in place to protect against this happening. Its something that your relying on players honesty and integrity to be in place.

Theres been cases of this apparently happening but in very small instances. Most of it is all hearsay and you take it with a pinch of salt but theres plenty of chances that its in fact true.

The fall out from this will be damaging for antrim and hurling in general if all found to be true. If it is true then the people in question should be banned from club and county for a year. A serious stance has to be taken in this, and a mark left to others that it will never be tolerated again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
If you continue to paper over cracks whilst at the same time eroding the integrity and values that are meant to be a huge part of our games, what is there to expect other than damage to reputation?

Time to deal with the issue head on and start focusing on making sure integrity and honesty is at the core of everything we do. Do that and we should get 15 players who will take that onto the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 30, 2016, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 09:24:18 AM
I see the irish news is now covering the story. Seems to be being denied at present. Hopefully it's all just a big internet rumour but unfortunately seems to have some legs.

At the height of these rumours I noticed the viewed stats to be jumping very high, over 1500 views less than 4 hours so it was being well watched by people not contributing..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 10:56:41 AM
While generally it's people talking rubbish here JC I'm sure some journalists find it a good source plus I'm sure if there are guilty parties there are a few people a bit scared of being named and this is as likely a place as any lol.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2016, 01:35:45 PM
Having not seen the schools game but reading the various posts, it seems the referee has given the southern team all the soft frees?  I'm not saying there are not referees who have an agenda or a particular hate fir another club, it happens in all counties and generally consigned to a shit referee... But for a referee to do it at a level such as school finals on tv to seems a bit silly considering he'll have been assessed for that game, it's a stepping stone to bigger games (as they usually give them to up and coming refs)

But I'd take skulls assessment over most and even with the obvious bias he'd have due to involvement with a lot of these lads, it must have been a shocking performance.... Hard to take for all involved ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 02:00:32 PM
MR I would generally prefer not to criticse referees but I do think sometimes we don't seem to get the rub of the green. I will never forget it took us 20-25 minutes against Carlow the year we beat them in that tight game in casement to get a free. Carlow were physical that day and there were many legitimate fouls not blown. Also Padraig Horan in our quarter final against wexford in croke early 00s was really really bad against us and in my view cost us a big scalp.

Also I went to the division 1 games regularly in the early 90s and can vividly remember a few refs being booed off from casement.

(The worst part of the carlow game was too that he gave us nothing all day then when we were coming back into it he gave us a dubious free which more or less won it for us!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 30, 2016, 02:00:32 PM
MR I would generally prefer not to criticse referees but I do think sometimes we don't seem to get the rub of the green. I will never forget it took us 20-25 minutes against Carlow the year we beat them in that tight game in casement to get a free. Carlow were physical that day and there were many legitimate fouls not blown. Also Padraig Horan in our quarter final against wexford in croke early 00s was really really bad against us and in my view cost us a big scalp.

Also I went to the division 1 games regularly in the early 90s and can vividly remember a few refs being booed off from casement.

(The worst part of the carlow game was too that he gave us nothing all day then when we were coming back into it he gave us a dubious free which more or less won it for us!)

Yep was at the game also, was a performance by the referee that day.... and the Wexford game too, I'm fine with views on referees as having been a player and a manager I've been very vocal when I believe a referee has given us a poor game (in my view) its just harder for a referee to do it while having the game on TV and being assessed, I'd imagine you'd have to be ultra even on all calls and being consistent, (even if you're calls are shite) as long as they are shite for both teams..

Hopefully it wont give the young lads a complex when put in that position again (ref'd by a southern referee)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Sometimes we run with the pack and when everyone's saying the same thing its very easy for it to become a truth. When I looked at the game again on TV as honestly as I could, and there's just too many poor decisions that didn't go St Louis way both in terms of not getting frees and being blown for soft/non frees. The balance of poor decisions made by the ref (bad calls either way to be expected) was heavily loaded against them. I'd be fairly sure it was subconscious decision making on the referee part but it was biased refereeing none the less. Just enough to tip the balance whilst not being too obvious. Very easy to get a 4-6 point swing. Actually the semi final referee was as bad only St Louis were just too good to be affected but him that day. Munster Team, Munster Venue, Munster Referee  :-\.  When your out hurling on the biggest day of your life and you can see the ref's against you, I can see how a young mind (and hence performance) can be affected negatively. They had to work so much harder to get their frees. I know they'll harness the hurt in the right way and be stronger for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 30, 2016, 11:49:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Sometimes we run with the pack and when everyone's saying the same thing its very easy for it to become a truth. When I looked at the game again on TV as honestly as I could, and there's just too many poor decisions that didn't go St Louis way both in terms of not getting frees and being blown for soft/non frees. The balance of poor decisions made by the ref (bad calls either way to be expected) was heavily loaded against them. I'd be fairly sure it was subconscious decision making on the referee part but it was biased refereeing none the less. Just enough to tip the balance whilst not being too obvious. Very easy to get a 4-6 point swing. Actually the semi final referee was as bad only St Louis were just too good to be affected but him that day. Munster Team, Munster Venue, Munster Referee  :-\.  When your out hurling on the biggest day of your life and you can see the ref's against you, I can see how a young mind (and hence performance) can be affected negatively. They had to work so much harder to get their frees. I know they'll harness the hurt in the right way and be stronger for it.

You quote st louis were too good in the semi - that was the problem in the final. They never played to their full potential at all, they couldn't handle the CHB, and didn't get the ball into the danger men enough. It was a close call but I don't think the ref should be blamed. If they had of played to the standard they can then the ref wouldn't have come into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2016, 01:11:20 AM
My reference to them being too good was relative to the opposition they played that day. On Monday the opposition was a much sterner test. Tactically and physically they were better equipped than their semi final opponents. A refereeing decision here or there or as I've also mentioned a wide or poor fumble was going to make a difference . All those factors played a part yes, but I for one feel the referee had an undue affect on the outcome. I've watched the game twice and I'm stating what I see. Yes I know sore loser
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 01:39:24 AM
Quote from: Brocky on March 30, 2016, 11:49:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 30, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
Sometimes we run with the pack and when everyone's saying the same thing its very easy for it to become a truth. When I looked at the game again on TV as honestly as I could, and there's just too many poor decisions that didn't go St Louis way both in terms of not getting frees and being blown for soft/non frees. The balance of poor decisions made by the ref (bad calls either way to be expected) was heavily loaded against them. I'd be fairly sure it was subconscious decision making on the referee part but it was biased refereeing none the less. Just enough to tip the balance whilst not being too obvious. Very easy to get a 4-6 point swing. Actually the semi final referee was as bad only St Louis were just too good to be affected but him that day. Munster Team, Munster Venue, Munster Referee  :-\.  When your out hurling on the biggest day of your life and you can see the ref's against you, I can see how a young mind (and hence performance) can be affected negatively. They had to work so much harder to get their frees. I know they'll harness the hurt in the right way and be stronger for it.

You quote st louis were too good in the semi - that was the problem in the final. They never played to their full potential at all, they couldn't handle the CHB, and didn't get the ball into the danger men enough. It was a close call but I don't think the ref should be blamed. If they had of played to the standard they can then the ref wouldn't have come into it.

We could see saw back and forth for the next year on positional strengths and other factors
For instance I could say to you
That CBS couldn't handle St. Louis corner forwards but that doesn't give them the licence to try and pull their arms of
You could say there no 12 was man of the match and I could say that he scored one point from play in normal time and the rest of his scores where from dubious frees
But no one is going to win that long winded argument
so Imm going to try and put it one sentence for you
St Louis where the better team, CBS where a better team than the semi final opponents hence an impartial ref was paramount for St Louis to come out on top but alas we will never know as that wasn't the case

Intresting first post Brocky are you an Antrim man yourself.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 07:09:37 AM
My point really is, in Antrim we tend to look for some one to blame instead of looking at the real reasons. Not all the time but this match is the perfect example. Why do we not point out the obvious that we didn't perform. It would improve the Hurlers if they had a proper debrief telling them where they went wrong and what they should have done instead of blaming the ref.
It's simple you need to be good enough on the day that the ref can't influence the match. No matter who you're playing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2016, 09:03:04 AM
Im not sure about that. you can play as well as you want but if i ref is going to be petty and blow you up for over carrying in one instance yet allow the opposition to get a few extra secs you start to question whether its going to be your day or not.

St Louis missed the chances, thats true but did the ref beat them? no. did he give frees more handy to the other team at times? maybe.

It doesnt help matters when your playing a munster team, have to travel to a home venue more or less and have a ref from munster as well. 3 factors in their favour before the balls threw in.

I wonder why Eamon hasson from Derry wasnt considered. Why couldnt we have an ulster ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 09:48:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2016, 09:03:04 AM
Im not sure about that. you can play as well as you want but if i ref is going to be petty and blow you up for over carrying in one instance yet allow the opposition to get a few extra secs you start to question whether its going to be your day or not.

St Louis missed the chances, thats true but did the ref beat them? no. did he give frees more handy to the other team at times? maybe.

It doesnt help matters when your playing a munster team, have to travel to a home venue more or less and have a ref from munster as well. 3 factors in their favour before the balls threw in.

I wonder why Eamon hasson from Derry wasnt considered. Why couldnt we have an ulster ref?

Jesus a Lienster venue and Ref would have been the obvious choice for all concerned, surely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 10:07:17 AM
You can understand the venue as it was scheduled there for both finals and tg4
So if a Munster team qualify then that's just good fortune
But a Munster ref to - come on

We are dwelling on the ref in the first match for obvious reasons but the ref in the second final had a great game He even yellowed a player for trying to win a free and was spot on. All the lads round me where remarking how come we didn't get him
Both southern teams I know but still credit where it's due
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
Why continually blame the ref, venue etc... Surely the best thing any of us can do is take care and change the things we can control and forget about the things we can't.  Sure even the St louis manager said he wouldn't change the venue.
To me this is one of the things we as a county are bad at. Change the fundamental problems instead of looking for excuses then we might get somewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 31, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
i watched the second match and the man of the match full forward actually stuck his knee into the full backs chest and got a yellow for it. I would of thought that was violent play and warranted a red? MR2 you would know better?

I agree that a neutral ref should of been appointed. Very silly that they appointed a munster ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 11:17:53 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 31, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
i watched the second match and the man of the match full forward actually stuck his knee into the full backs chest and got a yellow for it. I would of thought that was violent play and warranted a red? MR2 you would know better?

I agree that a neutral ref should of been appointed. Very silly that they appointed a munster ref.

He had a good game
The number 14 you mentioned ( what a player ) tried to go down when he reached the box but the ref was having none of it
I can't think of one bad call

I forgot to mention one of the linesmen in the first match was a tipp ref- unreal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
Why continually blame the ref, venue etc... Surely the best thing any of us can do is take care and change the things we can control and forget about the things we can't.  Sure even the St louis manager said he wouldn't change the venue.
To me this is one of the things we as a county are bad at. Change the fundamental problems instead of looking for excuses then we might get somewhere.

Yes Yes ... we all know this to be the proper way to behave. You're an impartial observer so its much easier to take this dignified view.
If Antrim played and got beat by a point in All Ireland final after not playing to their potential making unforced errors which ultimately cost them, a biased refereeing performance would also form a large part of the post game discussion if it was considered to be a factor in them losing the game. Are you saying (assuming your a passionate supporter) you would ignore it and make no reference to it?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I would most likely make reference to it. But why do we not discuss the things that went wrong with the performance rather than what we can't control. For example the lack of performance from the big players. the lack of tactics from the sideline taking care of the CHB.
No doubt a referee can have an effect on the game but from what I see the most successful teams look after their own performance and gear up so that nothing else can stop them from achieving their goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I would most likely make reference to it. But why do we not discuss the things that went wrong with the performance rather than what we can't control. For example the lack of performance from the big players. the lack of tactics from the sideline taking care of the CHB.
No doubt a referee can have an effect on the game but from what I see the most successful teams look after their own performance and gear up so that nothing else can stop them from achieving their goal.

Agree on some of the performance of our bigger players and the influence of the CHB
And the sideline to a certain extent
There spare man was obviously having a bigger influence than ours
Our no14 should have have been moved out earlier and his shooting was a bit off key for him
I thought SLG biggest problem was the three wides at the start of the 2nd half
All valid points but the biggest influence was the man in the middle
When St Louis tried to get some momentum going he disrupted it and brought CBS back into it
St. Louis looked like a team that if given the protection and right calls where going to get better as the game progressed
When a official is clearly pushing you down then it has an adverse effect on performance and confidence
What's your thoughts on the score deficit for the soft frees  awarded and the lack of frees for SLG and the penalty not given etc
To numerous to mention here
Your asking us not to dwell on the decisions and completely focus on the performance
Sorry I can't do that this time as  CBS made plenty of blunders to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 02:12:41 PM
I would most likely make reference to it. But why do we not discuss the things that went wrong with the performance rather than what we can't control. For example the lack of performance from the big players. the lack of tactics from the sideline taking care of the CHB.
No doubt a referee can have an effect on the game but from what I see the most successful teams look after their own performance and gear up so that nothing else can stop them from achieving their goal.

Are CBS discussing what went wrong with their performance? No. They hit a lot of wides and could have conceded a few more scoreable frees/penalties if they were 'spotted' by the referee but that matters not a jot now to them.
Would they have been discussing what went wrong today if the referee had given a more even handed performance. I believe they would. Not every team that has won big finals have played out of their skins. When you win not a single player or bad decision is to blame.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2016, 04:21:23 PM
Jeepers lads.. They got beat, ref was rubbish, they hit wides and made mistakes!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 04:26:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 31, 2016, 04:21:23 PM
Jeepers lads.. They got beat, ref was rubbish, they hit wides and made mistakes!

That about sums it up paddy
Sorry for hogging the board but Imm still cross as these where school kids and there was a grown man on the field to ensure that fair play prevailed and the best team won
He failed them miserably and the lads are gutted
I will try and move on
I see where your coming from
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
It's simple - sore loser
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 04:26:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 31, 2016, 04:21:23 PM
Jeepers lads.. They got beat, ref was rubbish, they hit wides and made mistakes!

That about sums it up paddy
Sorry for hogging the board but Imm still cross as these where school kids and there was a grown man on the field to ensure that fair play prevailed and the best team won
He failed them miserably and the lads are gutted
I will try and move on
I see where your coming from

I've held my tongue on this subject all week. I hate saying anything bad about refs but the one on Monday had to be one of the worst I think I've saw.

No point in dwelling on it & it's not a case of being a sore loser, your correct IMO to have a rant about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
Cant discuss anything on here unless its about loughgiel and Cushendall I was told, shame.... Open up another thread on it please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2016, 08:17:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
Cant discuss anything on here unless its about loughgiel and Cushendall I was told, shame.... Open up another thread on it please

Pick your dummy up chief..  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2016, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
Cant discuss anything on here unless its about loughgiel and Cushendall I was told, shame.... Open up another thread on it please

It's good you finally allowed people to critique a ref though ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2016, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2016, 08:13:20 PM
Cant discuss anything on here unless its about loughgiel and Cushendall I was told, shame.... Open up another thread on it please

It's good you finally allowed people to critique a ref though ;D

didn't watch the game!!! Look it happens, they cant be as good as me all the time  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:06:26 PM
Christy ring kicks off 23rd April. Looking at the teams taking part it looks like the biggest threat comes from London!💱
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2016, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:06:26 PM
Christy ring kicks off 23rd April. Looking at the teams taking part it looks like the biggest threat comes from London!💱

I already know the score in that game  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 31, 2016, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:06:26 PM
Christy ring kicks off 23rd April. Looking at the teams taking part it looks like the biggest threat comes from London!💱

I already know the score in that game  :-X
[/quote

Brilliant

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 12:25:29 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 31, 2016, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 31, 2016, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Brocky on March 31, 2016, 10:06:26 PM
Christy ring kicks off 23rd April. Looking at the teams taking part it looks like the biggest threat comes from London!💱

I already know the score in that game  :-X
[/quote

Brilliant

😁
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 08:21:51 AM
Is this Cushendall missing money an April fools?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 08:21:51 AM
Is this Cushendall missing money an April fools?

No it isn't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on April 01, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
I was convinced the Cushendall thing had to be an April Fools.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2016, 08:29:56 AM
Quote from: hurlingguru on April 01, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
I was convinced the Cushendall thing had to be an April Fools.

Seriously ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 01, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 08:21:51 AM
Is this Cushendall missing money an April fools?

No it isn't

That's bad stuff. In a small community this is going to be hard to deal with. Unfortunately with club finances there are not enough checks and balances and too much left to trust.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 09:12:05 AM
Spent a few days down there over Easter weekend with family, a parish in shock.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2016, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 01, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 08:21:51 AM
Is this Cushendall missing money an April fools?

No it isn't

That's bad stuff. In a small community this is going to be hard to deal with. Unfortunately with club finances there are not enough checks and balances and too much left to trust.

Look not too many people put their hands up to do these jobs in the first place, and generally it's not an area of their expertise when someone takes the role... it's not a professional body, these things happen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
i was hoping that was an april fool story.

the money involved sounds too ridiculous to go un-noticed. i find it incredible that it wouldnt be noticed at an agm in a treasurers report
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 01, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
I've often thought that with different non-professional organisations I've been party too that Money and Finance should always have more than one non-related (as much as possible) person in charge of it and it only be through joint consent that funds can be released, keeps things honest and provides another check before any mishaps or mistakes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 01, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
I've often thought that with different non-professional organisations I've been party too that Money and Finance should always have more than one non-related (as much as possible) person in charge of it and it only be through joint consent that funds can be released, keeps things honest and provides another check before any mishaps or mistakes.

As I said earlier, trying to get one person to take up a demanding role within a club is difficult, getting two is near impossible...

Usually most clubs do have a treasurers assistant, but his role is usually lotto tickets, getting the money out of the machines or other lesser roles, so that the treasurer can concentrate on the bigger roles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 09:54:31 AM
Is this true
Like Imm hearing six figure sums
It's hard to believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 01, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
I've often thought that with different non-professional organisations I've been party too that Money and Finance should always have more than one non-related (as much as possible) person in charge of it and it only be through joint consent that funds can be released, keeps things honest and provides another check before any mishaps or mistakes.

As I said earlier, trying to get one person to take up a demanding role within a club is difficult, getting two is near impossible...

Usually most clubs do have a treasurers assistant, but his role is usually lotto tickets, getting the money out of the machines or other lesser roles, so that the treasurer can concentrate on the bigger roles

Theres no doubt this is true, and therefore there is an awful lot of trust involved when it comes to handling cash.
There are endless times in a club when there is quite a lot of uncounted cash passing through peoples hands - it only takes a person who is in need to help themselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 01, 2016, 10:06:49 AM
Unfortunately this wasn't "mistakes" or "mishaps" or anyone being overworked
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2016/04/01/news/cushendall-gaa-club-probes-missing-100-000-claims-470565/

Looks like someone has been skimming for a prolonged period
Someone told me it was one hit
So that makes more sense
Poor fair all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 01, 2016, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2016/04/01/news/cushendall-gaa-club-probes-missing-100-000-claims-470565/

Looks like someone has been skimming for a prolonged period
Someone told me it was one hit
So that makes more sense
Poor fair all the same

It wasn't one hit as far as I know, was over a prolonged period
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 01, 2016, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 01, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
i was hoping that was an april fool story.

the money involved sounds too ridiculous to go un-noticed. i find it incredible that it wouldnt be noticed at an agm in a treasurers report

very bad taste from the Irish News if it's an April Fools story - doubt it is though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 11:01:27 AM
No matter whose to blame if its a person or persons, I hope the Cushendall club handle it with great care and sensitivity.  These people have families who will be affected by it and in a small closely knit community it will be devastating for them.
No doubt the guilty parties will need dealt with, but there could be underlying issues and at a time of great stress people do not think clearly. Maybe sometimes we are too quick to jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 11:01:27 AM
No matter whose to blame if its a person or persons, I hope the Cushendall club handle it with great care and sensitivity.  These people have families who will be affected by it and in a small closely knit community it will be devastating for them.
No doubt the guilty parties will need dealt with, but there could be underlying issues and at a time of great stress people do not think clearly. Maybe sometimes we are too quick to jump to conclusions.
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This board doesn't do balanced perspective
We are here to have a pop when the urge takes us
Refs are first on the hit list ( exept for rather touchy ones from Belfast ) then we work our way down
From there
You need to be squeaky clean to avoid our wrath
But we all love our hurling
Welcome to the board Brocky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 11:01:27 AM
No matter whose to blame if its a person or persons, I hope the Cushendall club handle it with great care and sensitivity.  These people have families who will be affected by it and in a small closely knit community it will be devastating for them.
No doubt the guilty parties will need dealt with, but there could be underlying issues and at a time of great stress people do not think clearly. Maybe sometimes we are too quick to jump to conclusions.
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This board doesn't do balanced perspective
We are here to have a pop when the urge takes us
Refs are first on the hit list ( exept for rather touchy ones from Belfast ) then we work our way down
From there
You need to be squeaky clean to avoid our wrath
But we all love our hurling
Welcome to the board Brocky

Ive realised that much, I can do that too at times. not much black or white on here, its all grey.
I just trust that the Cushendall club dont act like the posters on here then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:35:42 AM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252907

It's just gone national

It's been a couple of embarrassing weeks for Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:35:42 AM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252907

It's just gone national

It's been a couple of embarrassing weeks for Antrim

Bad few weeks alright  :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
This story is a bit like a death in the family - puts people through the whole range of shock and anger etc while we try to process it.
And that's only for ordinary Gaels let alone what the people of cushendall are dealing with.

There's been occasions of money going awol in Belfast over the years - but nothing in terms of this profile.

While it seems premature - cushendall need a plan for getting over this.
And by that that I don't mean holding people to account (that'll deal with itself) I more mean holding the club and community together.

The media coverage is something which tarnishes our whole association - let's hope Cushendall can deal with everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
The media coverage is something which tarnishes our whole association - let's hope Cushendall can deal with everything.

Doesnt in my opinion. It tarnishes the character of the person(s) involved. End of

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
There's more news on route.  Batten down the hatches.   :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 12:22:50 PM
The media coverage is something which tarnishes our whole association - let's hope Cushendall can deal with everything.

Doesnt in my opinion. It tarnishes the character of the person(s) involved. End of

From our perspective - yes.
But I should have made it clear in my original post that the whole GAA is tarnished by those not directly involved in the association. 
A lot of people just read that article and it tarnishes their view of the GAA in general. Same thing with free-for-all's etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 01:25:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
There's more news on route.  Batten down the hatches.   :-\

I know what your on about

Here it is
PJ mullan has just stepped down from the position as Antrim county hurling manager after a meeting with the county board

No April fools it's official
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 01:25:55 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
There's more news on route.  Batten down the hatches.   :-\

I know what your on about

Here it is
PJ mullan has just stepped down from the position as Antrim county hurling manager after a meeting with the county board

No April fools it's official

Source?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 01:32:54 PM
He's resigned alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on April 01, 2016, 01:40:31 PM
It's true. Frankie has just sent out email.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
For all the PR and spin and promises that we heard from our new saffron visions pre-convention - does anyone know where county officialdom have dissappeared to?
Nowhere to be seen or heard - I'm await the "we inherited these problems" response.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 01, 2016, 01:46:04 PM
Nothing Boring about Antrim GAA I'll say that, if we keep going like this the County Antrim Post will have to become a Daily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2016, 01:48:03 PM
It is never easy being an antrim supporter.

This year will turn into an even bigger waste of time. To be honest we'd be as well pull out of the christy ring and play the club championship in the summer when it should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 01, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
A Chairde,

Ref; Antrim Senior Hurling Management.

At a meeting earlier today in the offices of Antrim GAA the current senior hurling manager, PJ O'Mullan, has decided to step down from his post due to personal circumstances. PJ would like to thank the back room team and the county board for their support and assistance during his time in charge. The county board would like to thank PJ and his back room team for their efforts and wish PJ the best of luck for the future.

Antrim GAA will meet to consider its options regarding the management of the team for the upcoming Christy Ring campaign.

Is Mise

Proinsias O Coinne

Runai Coiste Chontae Aontroim 1st April 2016
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 01, 2016, 01:48:03 PM
It is never easy being an antrim supporter.

This year will turn into an even bigger waste of time. To be honest we'd be as well pull out of the christy ring and play the club championship in the summer when it should be.

Now there's a thought  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2016, 02:08:52 PM
One sorry mess after another, is the county season over yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 02:10:38 PM
I think its a necessity that we pull out to allow time for a reset of standards. Put the money saved into a 5 year fund to help bolster looking after development squads. Seems to be a tail off at U17 and Minor that needs to be understood and addressed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on April 01, 2016, 02:18:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 02:10:38 PM
I think its a necessity that we pull out to allow time for a reset of standards. Put the money saved into a 5 year fund to help bolster looking after development squads. Seems to be a tail off at U17 and Minor that needs to be understood and addressed.

Seems a sensible enough approach to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2016, 02:19:34 PM
i agree completly. We need to pull out of the Christy Ring and forget all about it for a period of time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 01, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
Knew it would end in tears with PJ, didn't think it would be so soon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 02:32:54 PM
Right or wrong - Maybe something along those lines is at least proactive and an attempt and ending the sleep-walking that exists.
Now that they don't have a vested interest - I'd also sit down with 4/5 previous managers and ask them for confidential and blunt truths about the set up around our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.

I think we can safely say there's more than one issue wrong with Antrim county hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.

I think we can safely say there's more than one issue wrong with Antrim county hurling.

No end of issues.

Where does the repair job start?

Do we pull out of the CR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 03:45:31 PM
A lot of previous managers had their own problems but this most recent set has been a complete farce.
I like others thought it was only a matter of time but with the rumours about betting and a lot of other goings on I suppose the best thing or maybe the only thing for the county to do was to ask him to leave.
I feel sorry for the players who want to play for the county but in reality it doesn't leave a lot of options. I can see woody and sambo take charge on a temp basis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on April 01, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.

I think we can safely say there's more than one issue wrong with Antrim county hurling.

No end of issues.



Where does the repair job start?

Do we pull out of the CR?

I don't think pulling out of the CR is an option, we are too big a county to not field a senior hurling team. Would maybe be benificial to play the u-21s get them a good few games and let them maybe gel to try give an all Ireland u21 a rattle. Maybe not to win but at least be competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on April 01, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
I don't think withdrawing from Christy ring will solve the problem. We have cushendall and creggan players to come on board now have we not?! Along with the honest players who were not involved in the whole debacle!

Weed out all involved and move forward.

Saffron vision ala our county board need to stand up and be counted now. I wondered how and why the hurlers were getting overnight stays but the footballers weren't, results prove it isn't best option or way to spend ur budget.

The cushendall story is unfortunately not a joke either.

Games abandoned pre-season also doesn'take good reading for the start of the club season.

Pride & passion for the game of hurling are a log way down some peoples list of objectives of late, time for that to be changed.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
There are many players in the panel who have committed themselves to the cause over the last months and have worked hard. It would be unfair on those players to pull out of competitions they have been training towards. Yes, there are problems. Yes, things haven't worked out but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

+1

Unfortunately this had the potential to end this way from the get go and there will be no gloating about it. It is another sorry chapter in a bad year.

There are plenty of commited lads on the panel to see out the CR withdrawing would be another blight on this season.

To put out a team does not take 4 nights a week training get them back to the clubs and approach it from the basis that the clubs prepare the players to the best of their ability.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 04:17:35 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 01, 2016, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
You only need to speak one recent manager to get the truth about the set up - and KR told us all the truth plenty of times. It no secret at all.

I think we can safely say there's more than one issue wrong with Antrim county hurling.

No end of issues.



Where does the repair job start?

Do we pull out of the CR?

I don't think pulling out of the CR is an option, we are too big a county to not field a senior hurling team. Would maybe be benificial to play the u-21s get them a good few games and let them maybe gel to try give an all Ireland u21 a rattle. Maybe not to win but at least be competitive.

Again a fair suggestion. And proactive.
Play the U21s sprinkled with some guys we know have the calibre for senior county hurling - while the club season goes ahead unfettered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
There are many players in the panel who have committed themselves to the cause over the last months and have worked hard. It would be unfair on those players to pull out of competitions they have been training towards. Yes, there are problems. Yes, things haven't worked out but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

+1

Unfortunately this had the potential to end this way from the get go and there will be no gloating about it. It is another sorry chapter in a bad year.

There are plenty of commited lads on the panel to see out the CR withdrawing would be another blight on this season.

To put out a team does not take 4 nights a week training get them back to the clubs and approach it from the basis that the clubs prepare the players to the best of their ability.

Sounds as sensible an option as there is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 01, 2016, 04:23:39 PM
Any word from last night's meeting about the in house betting yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

That really would be kicking a man when he's down, but yes ... I could see that being the 'upper echelons of the GAA way' .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

Kilkenny footballers have set somewhat of a precedent here?
But I don't see any such request being facilitated by GAA at HQ on this occasion.

From casement dunsilly betting & pJs resignation (let alone cushendall scandal) I'm still waiting to see how our new all promising county executive now stand up to their PR with actual actions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 01, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
Representing our county is now seen as a joke. Who wouldn't want to walk away from it.

What supporter will pay to see a team that bet against themselves?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 04:46:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.

What are the consequences of not playing in an All Ireland Competition?

This I would imagine would result in banning from competitions for a number of years at this point.

That's the burning question are we obliged to play at this stage or is it mandatory
I think a players vote would be fair IF we do have the choice
I would be on for pulling out
We need a redress of the whole county system and how we are preparing players for county hurling
And playing away with the club  will not prepare them for inter county hurling
And a lot of our top club players are not committed enough
Gonna take years to fix this with more resources put in at minor and younger
Let's try building from the ground up for a change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 01, 2016, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.
We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Well said HS - Back the ones who have commited.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.
We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Again valid - which shows just what a mess we're in.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a new invigorated county executive to step in an show some conviction.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.
We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?

Again valid - which shows just what a mess we're in.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a new invigorated county executive to step in an show some conviction.


Again it's up to the players if you ask me
It's some mess
We haven't won jack s..t for years yet we have two big stories on hoganstand that's embarrassing and that's just today

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2016, 05:16:57 PM
We haven't won jack s ever!!

Bad times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 01, 2016, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 01, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Playing in the CR will be another farce after the run we've been on IMO. I can't see anyone's heart being in it regardless of the commitment shown by some. I'd give the players the final vote on whether they've ambitions to compete properly in the competition. If not .... pull out.
We have had disappointing league results.
Our manager has resigned.
There is suspicion that a couple of players bet against themselves.

That is not reason to tell a whole panel that we're wrapping it up for the year or even considering it. That's a kick in the stones to lads who have committed, who are proud to play for the county and who are probably hurting more than anyone about the year so far.

It's time to show those lads that the county are behind them and will do our best to improve things to hopefully end the year with some sort of positivity.

Pulling the plug would tell those lads "we're fed up with the whole fecking lot of ye."

How many would be willing to commit again if they think the county are just going to dump on them when the chips are down?
110% correct and right HS. Let the players go back with the clubs.  Pick a panel two weeks before the Christy Ring and give it a go with the players that are proud of there county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 01, 2016, 05:16:57 PM
We haven't won jack s ever!!

Bad times.

We won the Christy ring quite handy the last time we contested it now we are looking at pulling out of it
I wasn't talking about all Ireland's just matches like Kerry and Carlow etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 01, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
I think pulling out is making a statement that things are not what they should be and rather than limping on half heartedly we need a moratorium to see if we can root cause where the issues are and put in place actions that will bring about the mindset changes needed in the medium to long term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:36:09 PM
I would play the christy ring but players with the clubs for training apart from a few squad sessions. Bring someone in temporary to look after it.

But it's fairly simple, we have a new set up at committee level,
It's time for them to show more leadership.
I think to be honest they have already have by getting rid of an inadequate management structure who simply treated the whole county with contempt. I suspect they already have some notion of a plan in place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
I think today's announcement would clasify as action. At the end of the day the county senior hurling squad or some of it brought the county into disrepute and no matter what the press release they took the only action they could. The buck stops with the manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
I think today's announcement would clasify as action. At the end of the day the county senior hurling squad or some of it brought the county into disrepute and no matter what the press release they took the only action they could. The buck stops with the manager.
indeed. Try telling that to the Kevin ryan fans.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
On another note, has there been any action taken pertaining to the melee between the johnnies and St galls? Or the referee walking away? Or is it being conviently forgot about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
I think today's announcement would clasify as action. At the end of the day the county senior hurling squad or some of it brought the county into disrepute and no matter what the press release they took the only action they could. The buck stops with the manager.
indeed. Try telling that to the Kevin ryan fans.

It's obvious no matter who the manager is it is a difficult job. But the right person would have the sense to make the right decisions. Kevin Ryan made a balls of the loughgiel situation and relied too much on senior players to help.
PJ made obvious mistakes too, childish messages etc... but probably the biggest was assuming he could handle it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
I think today's announcement would clasify as action. At the end of the day the county senior hurling squad or some of it brought the county into disrepute and no matter what the press release they took the only action they could. The buck stops with the manager.
indeed. Try telling that to the Kevin ryan fans.

Could you define a kevin Ryan fan SIE is it someone who supported him
His tenure lasted a lot longer than the one you campaigned for
Thought you would be keeping a low profile today seeing as all your manager and player preferences where put in place and what a farce that was
Feel sorry for PJ but when he put all his eggs in the  "get the LG players back and we will blow all round us basket" he was doomed
so keep spouting the same old tripe, I'm sitting here ready for whatever response is needed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2016, 07:49:50 PM
Pj, kevin ryan, jerry wallace, jingo, sambo and woody etc etc.

I think it is time to look past the manager as the issue here.

Pj did not go into a bookies and place bets.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
+1 immtommygun
I agree the buck stops with the manager - but given what we know about players - they certainly pushed it towards him!
Changing manager is not a panacea if what our players have demonstrated is taken into account.

The Jim Nelson Cup was played off - St John's beat Rossa convincingly.
Nobody seems quite sure how things progress given then end to that semi final.
It seems current going-ons and the fact not too many people outside the immediate game care about it has swept a lot under a carpet.

We could have sold advertising on this forum today given the interest :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 07:55:08 PM
PJ for the Cushendall job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2016, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
For all the PR and spin and promises that we heard from our new saffron visions pre-convention - does anyone know where county officialdom have dissappeared to?
Nowhere to be seen or heard - I'm await the "we inherited these problems" response.

Are you on wind up?? Its just happened today?? What were you looking? PJ sad face??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
So btdtgtt let's imagine for a minute that you headed up the new county executive. What action would have undertaken today? What do you think the Executive should do that they haven't done? Precisely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 01, 2016, 09:13:11 PM
The phrase from bad to worse springs to mind.Betting slips was awful, PJ resigning is sad to see and the Cushendall incident is potentially criminal. As I said earlier I would know one county player well and the sacrifices he makes for the county team are immense. I feel really sorry for those players who put their shoulder to the wheel and for all the club members of Ruari Ogs. It is a soul destroying thing selling tickets over the years to keep a club going, I know that very well from personal experience and for the Cushendall members who have been doing this for years I have huge sympathy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 01, 2016, 09:13:11 PM
The phrase from bad to worse springs to mind.Betting slips was awful, PJ resigning is sad to see and the Cushendall incident is potentially criminal. As I said earlier I would know one county player well and the sacrifices he makes for the county team are immense. I feel really sorry for those players who put their shoulder to the wheel and for all the club members of Ruari Ogs. It is a soul destroying thing selling tickets over the years to keep a club going, I know that very well from personal experience and for the Cushendall members who have been doing this for years I have huge sympathy.
I totally agree. I feel sorry for the hard working club men and women from Cushendall. No club deserves that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 07:08:16 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 01, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
I wish I shared your confidence in the new executive Brocky.
havent seen anything resembling action from them.
I think today's announcement would clasify as action. At the end of the day the county senior hurling squad or some of it brought the county into disrepute and no matter what the press release they took the only action they could. The buck stops with the manager.
indeed. Try telling that to the Kevin ryan fans.

Could you define a kevin Ryan fan SIE is it someone who supported him
His tenure lasted a lot longer than the one you campaigned for
Thought you would be keeping a low profile today seeing as all your manager and player preferences where put in place and what a farce that was
Feel sorry for PJ but when he put all his eggs in the  "get the LG players back and we will blow all round us basket" he was doomed
so keep spouting the same old tripe, I'm sitting here ready for whatever response is needed
You obviously don't know me.  ;) 


Why on earth would I need to keep a low profile? Pj made mistakes who doesn't? What exactly does "get the LG players back and we will blow all round us basket" mean? I cant decipher that one.

As far as I could see PJ wasn't the only selector. The squad wasn't exactly coming down with loughgiel players either.  In fact I'd go as far to say there was as good a range of clubs represented as ever. He also didn't operate the draconian Ryan doctrine of barring club players training with their clubs. In fact he had an open door policy. He also allowed the Cushendall players to fully train with their club in the run up to the all ireland club series without the threat of not being selected for the County panel. This should be mandatory no matter who is manager.

He also didn't push money into the player's hands that betted against themselves, team mates and supporters. He does not deserve to be aligned with those particular boyos.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
So btdtgtt let's imagine for a minute that you headed up the new county executive. What action would have undertaken today? What do you think the Executive should do that they haven't done? Precisely?

My comment re our AWOL executive doesn't apply only to PJ.
This board is plastered with issues of which I've heard nothing proactive from our executive.
It's a point I've made quite a bit before today also.

So far putting boards up around Casement has been about as much I've seen them do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Yes you certainly have. The new executive will have been as shocked as anyone at the way our senior hurling and events connected to that were playing out. What did they do? They called the manager in for a review of the situation, at the end of which the manager "resigned". From what I see the executive handled this situation well. With a bit of diplomacy lets say!

If you want an exact update on Dunsilly, or Casement or any other problem that you perceive to be the responsibility of the new board, then all you need to do is ask your club delegate to CC to get that information for you.

As I said before, and you set out to make light of it, our delegate (with a lot of years experience) was very impressed with the level of information, transparency and committment to get the best deals for Antrim out of some of their current projects. Im sure you will acknowledge that some of what is going on is very sensitive, especially around Casement, and its certainly not in our best interests to play this out in public. The only forum they will discuss these matters in is at County Committee. If you have a problem with the level of information YOU are receiving, then take it up with your two delegates. Is that fair enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 10:30:03 PM
It certainly is.
But club delegates and county board members I have spoken to don't share that opinion.
Far from it in fact.
Hopefully that's fair enough also.
So I will discuss whatever I want on this forum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
Sorry btdtgtt thats head in the sand stuff. I'm afraid your blinkers are preventing you from seeing the whole picture, or indeed from answering the question. What would you do in their place that isn't being done? Specifically? I don't think you would be able to come up with one specific item. And Bannside is right - if you want updates on major issues, ask your club delegate or secretary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2016, 10:35:17 PM
Having said that Im not their trumpet blower. But I said (to myself lol) that they would need six months just to get their head round the size of the mess they inherited. Happy to give them that spell, or longer if needed to get into their way of working but I do have faith that this board will take things on a fair bit in terms of structures and leaving us in a better more sustainable place.

Lets be very honest. there werent many queueing up for these posts. Everyone saw it as a poisoned chalice and believe me, knowing one or two of them personally, as well as few of the movers and shakers behind the scenes, they have a lot going on in their own businesses, so fair play for stepping up to the plate. Thats my view anyway. Time will judge how valuable their contributions will be...but lets give them that time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
Sorry btdtgtt thats head in the sand stuff. I'm afraid your blinkers are preventing you from seeing the whole picture, or indeed from answering the question. What would you do in their place that isn't being done? Specifically? I don't think you would be able to come up with one specific item. And Bannside is right - if you want updates on major issues, ask your club delegate or secretary.

If you read my original post you will see I've spoken to club delegates & county board members.
And whilst a critique of what I would do where I part of the county executive might be a bit long-winded - suffice to say my point remains - in the time since many of them presented themselves as knights in shining armour I haven't seen evidence of anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 01, 2016, 10:47:54 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2016, 10:35:17 PM
Having said that Im not their trumpet blower. But I said (to myself lol) that they would need six months just to get their head round the size of the mess they inherited. Happy to give them that spell, or longer if needed to get into their way of working but I do have faith that this board will take things on a fair bit in terms of structures and leaving us in a better more sustainable place.

Lets be very honest. there werent many queueing up for these posts. Everyone saw it as a poisoned chalice and believe me, knowing one or two of them personally, as well as few of the movers and shakers behind the scenes, they have a lot going on in their own businesses, so fair play for stepping up to the plate. Thats my view anyway. Time will judge how valuable their contributions will be...but lets give them that time.

That's fair enough if that's your view - I hope you're right.
I would disagree for example that others weren't stepping to the plate - after all everyone elected was opposed.
If you feel six months is judgement time - they'd need to offer a lot more in the next 3 months or so than they have so far.
So like I say, I hope you're right - but my original point remains.
I've seen or heard precious little and I'm totally underwhelmed by their start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
I wouldn't read too much in to the "resignation" spin.   I would say it was more of a jump before pushed situation.  If truth be told, the manager set the tone with his conduct even before the season started pre season at at training weekend.  Lost the respect of quite a few players as a result.  This is fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
I wouldn't read too much in to the "resignation" spin.   I would say it was more of a jump before pushed situation.  If truth be told, the manager set the tone with his conduct even before the season started pre season at at training weekend.  Lost the respect of quite a few players as a result.  This is fact.

No point in dragging up more stories, the chap has left, been sacked whatever happened has happened. everybody knows the stories & rumours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2016, 11:16:32 PM
Is this a county hurling discussion forum? And not a single word on here about Liam Watsons resignation from the panel. Too busy with work commitments, apparently! Sheer coincidence that his resignation came at the same time as PJ`s. Its been some week alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 11:19:09 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2016, 11:16:32 PM
Is this a county hurling discussion forum? And not a single word on here about Liam Watsons resignation from the panel. Too busy with work commitments, apparently! Sheer coincidence that his resignation came at the same time as PJ`s. Its been some week alright.

Watson didn't resign, he got kicked off the panel for messing about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
I wouldn't read too much in to the "resignation" spin.   I would say it was more of a jump before pushed situation.  If truth be told, the manager set the tone with his conduct even before the season started pre season at at training weekend.  Lost the respect of quite a few players as a result.  This is fact.

No point in dragging up more stories, the chap has left, been sacked whatever happened has happened. everybody knows the stories & rumours.

Why not when he was lorded as the man to turn things around in some quarters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:28:45 PM
 SIE
ARGUING WITH YOU
it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are at chess the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

You ranted for two years about the then hurling set up. All your suggestions came to fruition
Your a lost cause me thinks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2016, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on April 01, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
I wouldn't read too much in to the "resignation" spin.   I would say it was more of a jump before pushed situation.  If truth be told, the manager set the tone with his conduct even before the season started pre season at at training weekend.  Lost the respect of quite a few players as a result.  This is fact.

No point in dragging up more stories, the chap has left, been sacked whatever happened has happened. everybody knows the stories & rumours.

Why not when he was lorded as the man to turn things around in some quarters.

Knock yourself out then.. Spill the beans about what u know. I'm not arguing that he was the saviour in some quarters but what good would bringing up stuff do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:28:45 PM
SIE
ARGUING WITH YOU
it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are at chess the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

You ranted for two years about the then hurling set up. All your suggestions came to fruition
Your a lost cause me thinks
The then manager was a joke. I stick by what I posted. Like I've told you ad nauseum I know what Ryan did. Like I also said before, you're obsessed and somewhat frightening with your devotion to him. And yes Kevin ryan was there for 3 years. PJ had more league wins in his short time in charge though.  ;)

Both reigns are over. I'm moving on. I suggest you do. It'll be good for you.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 12:06:30 AM
Going forward I really hope today has been our dead cat bounce day

Feels like it

And the fuel that got us to this moment? A*a*h*

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 12:09:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2016, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2016, 11:28:45 PM
SIE
ARGUING WITH YOU
it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are at chess the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

You ranted for two years about the then hurling set up. All your suggestions came to fruition
Your a lost cause me thinks
The then manager was a joke. I stick by what I posted. Like I've told you ad nauseum I know what Ryan did. Like I also said before, you're obsessed and somewhat frightening with your devotion to him. And yes Kevin ryan was there for 3 years. PJ had more league wins in his short time in charge though.  ;)

Both reigns are over. I'm moving on. I suggest you do. It'll be good for you.

There you go again let's move on
This latest exchange was initiated by yourself today mentioning Kevin Ryan fans
What an idiotic statement
You got your dream set up and it's all gone up in smoke
and  stop repeating that I Know what he did last summer
You sound like a bad teen movie
You put up and shut up and we can move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2016, 12:10:11 AM
*yawns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on April 02, 2016, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
[/qu

You are entitled to an opinion, but 'am I clear on that' and 'that's simple enough for you to understand' , please don't talk to anyone never mind me like that. You are just someone posting an opinion like the rest of us. Because you come from ng doesn't make you better, although that does seem to be the attitude at milltown. Talk to people not down to them.

Re the management the executive have a massive job on their hands. My view is that we don't throw the baby out with the bath water. We have the time for a new executive in cooperation with the clubs to conduct a root and branch review of hurling in antrim. Not just at senior level for there seems to be a lack of identity and structure permeating right down to the development squads. Lets also use Justin McCarthys knowledge whilst we can for some suggestions. Let the players go to the clubs. Let the u21s step up now and use train twice weekly and use c ring as build up for the u21. Gavan Duffy and Paul Graham should remain and get someone to oversee it be it Justin himself or perhaps Aidan Hamill or Seamus Elliott

Re the betting, Im angry as well and at one stage was for treating them akin to the Salem witches. But what I must say is that we have seen the damage  gambling addictions can have. Find out why these lads did it. Are they struggling etc and see can we get them help. Tyrone never turned their back on Cathal McCarron so my view would be to see if there are problems and then deal with it. Thoughts??

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:14:49 AM
Quote from: reddog on April 02, 2016, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
[/qu

You are entitled to an opinion, but 'am I clear on that' and 'that's simple enough for you to understand' , please don't talk to anyone never mind me like that. You are just someone posting an opinion like the rest of us. Because you come from ng doesn't make you better, although that does seem to be the attitude at milltown. Talk to people not down to them.

Re the management the executive have a massive job on their hands. My view is that we don't throw the baby out with the bath water. We have the time for a new executive in cooperation with the clubs to conduct a root and branch review of hurling in antrim. Not just at senior level for there seems to be a lack of identity and structure permeating right down to the development squads. Lets also use Justin McCarthys knowledge whilst we can for some suggestions. Let the players go to the clubs. Let the u21s step up now and use train twice weekly and use c ring as build up for the u21. Gavan Duffy and Paul Graham should remain and get someone to oversee it be it Justin himself or perhaps Aidan Hamill or Seamus Elliott
Re the betting, Im angry as well and at one stage was for treating them akin to the Salem witches. Buy what I must say is that we have seen the damage  gambling addictions can have. Find out why these lads did it. Are they struggling etc and see can we get them help. Tyrone never turned their back on Cathal McCarron so my view would be to see if there are problems and then deal with it. Thoughts??

Wtf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:18:23 AM
Seriously are you for real?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on April 02, 2016, 01:21:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:18:23 AM
Seriously are yout for real?

You don't have issue with me posting on antrim hurling now do you. its simply an opinion
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 01:35:00 AM
Didn't put you down as a liberal Reddog

As far as I'm aware CMcC didn't bet against his team. Do you want 'it's a knockout jokers' for these lads or what?

Not saying they mightnt need help but these behaviours can't be allowed to be given the by ball from an association point of view. A price needs to be paid if the values of the GAA is to continue to have any relevance in the way we support our communities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on April 02, 2016, 01:45:28 AM
The cathal McCarron situation is nothing even close to what went on with the antrim hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons

Maybe it was the Dog himself in William Hill placing big money on a London victory...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:44:25 AM
My take on all this:
PJ had to resign due to couple of incidents involving drink which no county manager should find themselves. End of, no excuses. He obviously has some issues he needs to address. Just a shame as his tenure promised to offer so much.

The fellas that bet against us. Simple one for me. Lifetime ban from playing for our county and at least a year long ban from their clubs (both codes). They add nothing to what we are trying to achieve. County board need to make examples of these arseholes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons

Maybe it was the Dog himself in William Hill placing big money on a London victory...........
[/quote

Can of worms opened there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
Post from the hoganstand a week ago. Haven't heard the names myself but this something the executive need to deal with properly if they want to ensure their credibility.

First big (big) test for the new county executive and some involved are very close to home for said individuals. I'm sure they really could have done without this 3 to 4 months into the job, but the eyes are watching.........

bricktop (Down) - Posts:1307 - 25/03/2016 10:33:28   1837533
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
Post from the hoganstand a week ago. Haven't heard the names myself but this something the executive need to deal with properly if they want to ensure their credibility.

First big (big) test for the new county executive and some involved are very close to home for said individuals. I'm sure they really could have done without this 3 to 4 months into the job, but the eyes are watching.........

bricktop (Down) - Posts:1307 - 25/03/2016 10:33:28   1837533

When you read the CB stating that it's vicious rumours I have a bad feeling it's already gone in to the case closed file
The accused have or will be invited to leave the panel and that will be it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
Post from the hoganstand a week ago. Haven't heard the names myself but this something the executive need to deal with properly if they want to ensure their credibility.

First big (big) test for the new county executive and some involved are very close to home for said individuals. I'm sure they really could have done without this 3 to 4 months into the job, but the eyes are watching.........

bricktop (Down) - Posts:1307 - 25/03/2016 10:33:28   1837533

When you read the CB stating that it's vicious rumours I have a bad feeling it's already gone in to the case closed file
The accused have or will be invited to leave the panel and that will be it

I think now there are few people with nothing to lose now in the situation it will come out eventually around the names. I don't think there is any putting the genie back in the bottle so best to have a full and Frank investigation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
As I stated from first pop - I don't know why anyone is expecting individuals who gambled heads to roll publicly.
It won't be happening.
Dealt with quietly - and never exposed in public.
That's the only way that's happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 10:53:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
As I stated from first pop - I don't know why anyone is expecting individuals who gambled heads to roll publicly.
It won't be happening.
Dealt with quietly - and never exposed in public.
That's the only way that's happening.

Why
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 02, 2016, 10:59:52 AM
Restoring credibility should be important to anyone in these positions. No?

Them not doing the right thing will be the bigger and more damaging story in the hearts and minds of the grass roots. Church cover ups being the obvious example.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
I would have thought croke park intervention wouldn't be to far away
Let's face it headquarters have a responsibility to ensure this is dealt with right to set a president for again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 11:19:27 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
I would have thought croke park intervention wouldn't be to far away
Let's face it headquarters have a responsibility to ensure this is dealt with right to set a president for again

The only saving graces if you like for the eejits that were gambling are the PJ sacking/resignation and the events in Cushendall. It'll take the heat of them but it shouldn't be left by our county board, it must be investigated.

Credit where credit is due, they acted swiftly with the shambles that was PJ tenure, but if they don't act on this then it's a failure in my mind.

I don't care if some of those betting against the county were from the same club as some high ranking officials, grow a set and discipline them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 11:19:27 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
I would have thought croke park intervention wouldn't be to far away
Let's face it headquarters have a responsibility to ensure this is dealt with right to set a president for again

The only saving graces if you like for the eejits that were gambling are the PJ sacking/resignation and the events in Cushendall. It'll take the heat of them but it shouldn't be left by our county board, it must be investigated.

Credit where credit is due, they acted swiftly with the shambles that was PJ tenure, but if they don't act on this then it's a failure in my mind.

I don't care if some of those betting against the county were from the same club as some high ranking officials, grow a set and discipline them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
The whole situation about gambling is much much more complex than it looks. Some people here think its just a simple matter of contacting a few bookies to see who exactly had bets on London winning a NHL game. They simply are not going to start giving out those kind of details. Unless you are talking thousands of pounds, the level of this involvement is far to far beneath their radar. So forget about that one, from someone who has a knowledge of the industry. Data Protection etc. If it was an online account there is a good chance that it has already been suspended due to "irregular betting patterns".

So, in the absence of that, its fairly clear (apparently people saw the betting slips) that a few players backed against their own team. Well unless Im missing something, I dont know of a law against that.  (Its against a lot of things, but not actually illegal).

Despite all these complexities, there are posters here who want a public execution. They want names, newspaper headlines and our county all over the media for the wrong reasons again.

By now the county board will know names. They will deal with it quietly and efficiently. As far as I can see that process has begun. The dogs in the street will eventually know the names, and you`ll find they wont wear a Saffron jersey for some while, if ever again. 

Would this be enough for everyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 11:57:02 AM
Put simply (again).

Just because it happened - doesn't mean the betting can be proven. 

Just because it happened - doesn't mean all involved have any desire for it to be proven.

It suits just about all (directly) involved for this to dissappear.
GAA officialdom don't want our games tarnished.
Antrim want our name the hell out of the papers as usual.
Bookies need to maintain the integrity of their business.

The guys involved will dissappear for a while - and won't play for Antrim again.

End of story - until the next story that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2016, 11:59:03 AM
+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 12:04:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 02, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
The whole situation about gambling is much much more complex than it looks. Some people here think its just a simple matter of contacting a few bookies to see who exactly had bets on London winning a NHL game. They simply are not going to start giving out those kind of details. Unless you are talking thousands of pounds, the level of this involvement is far to far beneath their radar. So forget about that one, from someone who has a knowledge of the industry. Data Protection etc. If it was an online account there is a good chance that it has already been suspended due to "irregular betting patterns".

So, in the absence of that, its fairly clear (apparently people saw the betting slips) that a few players backed against their own team. Well unless Im missing something, I dont know of a law against that.  (Its against a lot of things, but not actually illegal).

Despite all these complexities, there are posters here who want a public execution. They want names, newspaper headlines and our county all over the media for the wrong reasons again.

By now the county board will know names. They will deal with it quietly and efficiently. As far as I can see that process has begun. The dogs in the street will eventually know the names, and you`ll find they wont wear a Saffron jersey for some while, if ever again. 

Would this be enough for everyone?

Nobody wants a public hanging of these lads, I want the story put to bed as much as the next and Antrim GAA out of the papers as much as the next, but why should I work Monday-Saturday so on a Sunday I can take my 3 kids to Ballycastle to watch my county play and spend my hard earned money on the diesel, food & admission for 5/6 scumbags to be beating against themselves winning a game? Who is to say it wasn't or hasn't been done before?
I'll be happy if those involved are suspended and we can move on and sort the mess left behind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:48:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 02, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

I'm sure a small number of people on the squad backed London to beat Antrim.
Not with any huge cash - and not sufficient to call it match fixing.
But I'm as sure as I can be that it happened.
Equally I've made it known how I think this matter should proceed (or not proceed).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 02, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Well if the management started off whistle blowing and then it spiralled out of control instead of strengthening their position it left them out in the wind.

Now it seems to be a position where no one wants to push it any further PJ is gone and a new manager will have to pick up the pieces. So looks like the way forward will be to keep it in house and as quiet as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 01:49:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 02, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Well if the management started off whistle blowing and then it spiralled out of control instead of strengthening their position it left them out in the wind.

Now it seems to be a position where no one wants to push it any further PJ is gone and a new manager will have to pick up the pieces. So looks like the way forward will be to keep it in house and as quiet as possible.

Like I said at the onset - there was never going to be anything different.

So.
Anyone any inkling as to who's next to drink from the poisoned chalice?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 02, 2016, 01:52:40 PM
Great piece by John Martin. I was thinking that there must be some substance to the "rumours" but now Im not so sure. May be someone making a mountain out of a molehill.

To be very honest I saw the game as a real banana skin for Antrim based on their poor form going into the game. I saw the odds of 1/4 Antrim v 3/1 London and knew those odds were wrong. I was tempted to put London into a small accumulator at such a generous price. Anyone seeing 3/1 about what should have been a 5/4 chance would have seen value.

Now if a player saw that, and had London in a £10 treble, which ended up winning him £100, and showed it to a few people after the match, would this constitute a breach of loyalty, or translate to a more serious offence of "non trier". I dont think so. Everything is relative and by the looks of this this entire story may have been blown out of all proportion. But then again Im only assuming...because I dont know anything more than that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 02, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Has there not been a few of the panel walked away saying that they won't play unless it's sorted or is that a rumour to?

Maybe I'm over reacting to it or being a keyboard warrior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
Some players have walked because of the betting, until it's sorted. They know it happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 02, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
Some players have walked because of the betting, until it's sorted. They know it happened.


And do you have proof of this? Clearly that's what we need here as any negative comments don't seems to go down well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 02, 2016, 02:50:50 PM
I read the article. Good read.  And yes maybe there wasn't hundreds of thousands made.  But there was players on the Antrim panel and starting team backed London.  This isn't being a keyboard warrior or starting rumors.its a fact, when players openly tell you it happened. That's good enough for me.  Hopefully whoever comes in can get the lads that want to be there and have pride in themselves and the jersey to knuckle down and win a Christy ring. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

Any Good news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 02, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

Very little to disagree with there.
Except for an abandoned game being quickly re-arranged as opposed to one or both put out of the competition.
Very convenient.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: reddog on April 02, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons

Maybe it was the Dog himself in William Hill placing big money on a London victory...........
[/quote

Can of worms opened there!


1. The Cathal McCarron situation revolved around a serious gambling problem. The point I am making is that people didn't turn there back on him as most seem to be proposing here
2. I love the Gaa but if these people did as alleged this means they either didn't care or have reached a point where they have a serious problem which has led to them letting their clubs counties team mates and friends down. Yes punish them but if they have a problem it is more important to try and help them. If they have problems what does it say about the GAA if they don't try and help them??
3. It doesn't impact on me at club or county level whatever the outcome. It just saddens me as an antrim man but have seen the damage gambling is having in communities and in the Gaa and see the human being as more imp.
4. Would never gamble in William Hill and get the feeling people think they know who I am. My club wouldn't be affected if rumours are true

I am trying to be constructive. I see tackling gambling problems as a bigger issue. The only thing I would ask people in the know is are the rumours true that the players and representatives were given £200 each expensives for the London weekend? I don't want people out of pocket but surely this put them in pocket?/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on April 02, 2016, 04:32:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 02, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

Any Good news

Minors beat Kildare by a goal in Leinster Shield Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 05:08:02 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

We were winning with 2 mins to go!! The old start a fight and make the referee runaway and overturn the 'result' tactic worked

Anyway ours is of little newsworthy compared to the country teams and set up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Quote from: reddog on April 02, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons

Maybe it was the Dog himself in William Hill placing big money on a London victory...........
[/quote

Can of worms opened there!


1. The Cathal McCarron situation revolved around a serious gambling problem. The point I am making is that people didn't turn there back on him as most seem to be proposing here
2. I love the Gaa but if these people did as alleged this means they either didn't care or have reached a point where they have a serious problem which has led to them letting their clubs counties team mates and friends down. Yes punish them but if they have a problem it is more important to try and help them. If they have problems what does it say about the GAA if they don't try and help them??
3. It doesn't impact on me at club or county level whatever the outcome. It just saddens me as an antrim man but have seen the damage gambling is having in communities and in the Gaa and see the human being as more imp.
4. Would never gamble in William Hill and get the feeling people think they know who I am. My club wouldn't be affected if rumours are true

I am trying to be constructive. I see tackling gambling problems as a bigger issue. The only thing I would ask people in the know is are the rumours true that the players and representatives were given £200 each expensives for the London weekend? I don't want people out of pocket but surely this put them in pocket?/

I'm not doubting your trying to be conscructive, but I can't see how you can compare  a lad like McCarron to Antrim hurlers betting against their own team. McCarron lost everything as far as I can remember & spent months in rehab, he didn't fly home to a job the next day. If what your saying that the panel got £200 spending money is true then somebody in the county needs to have a good look at themselves, suppose when you hear the rumours of what PJ and his back room were getting paid then it could be true.

I'm not saying that some of our lads are or aren't in the same boat as McCarron but the bottom line is that any sportsperson either Amateur or Professional that bet against themselves or the team they play for shows a complete lack of respect for the whole club or county, fans & players alike.

Anyway onwards and upwards. Does anybody know when the county are meeting to discuss the manager or any rumours of who will fill the job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
Can't see people lining up to be involved with the squad at the moment.

Would it not be a case of the county secretary selecting a squad if necessary to fulfill fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
Can't see people lining up to be involved with the squad at the moment.

Would it not be a case of the county secretary selecting a squad if necessary to fulfill fixtures?

It's a no lose situation I think, we compete in or maybe even win the CR and its job done, get beat in the 1st round & sure it was expected.

Not sure what way it works to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 03, 2016, 11:37:17 PM
My opinion, if some of the existing team stay, bring in someone with a bit of experience, have the squad once a week, the rest of the time with their clubs and give CR a go. Maybe bring a wee bit of pride back into the shirt.
Let's face it even before PJ it was a shambles and his reign certainly didn't help it.
This would give a better foundation for future years.

Apart from that, the new county exec need to improve things largely with underage squads to set a better standard moving forward. This is where the main focus should be.
Plus have a look at the Roscommon way of doing things. Division 4 to 1 means they must be doing something right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 03, 2016, 11:37:17 PM
My opinion, if some of the existing team stay, bring in someone with a bit of experience, have the squad once a week, the rest of the time with their clubs and give CR a go. Maybe bring a wee bit of pride back into the shirt.
Let's face it even before PJ it was a shambles and his reign certainly didn't help it.
This would give a better foundation for future years.

Apart from that, the new county exec need to improve things largely with underage squads to set a better standard moving forward. This is where the main focus should be.
Plus have a look at the Roscommon way of doing things. Division 4 to 1 means they must be doing something right.

Not that this is the way to have arrived at it, but I think this gives us a serious unprecedented opportunity to have a full and open analysis of where we are and how to improve things.

New Executive should be using this time to look at the system top to bottom and have a costing of what is required coach wise from grass roots through to senior level. This is then ammunition to take to Croke park and say that we have been neglected long enough in terms of employed bodies on the ground.

Yes we have a lack of committed volunteers but I think if a proper and well financed plan was in place that everyone could see and buy into then we might have a chance of turning some of those volunteers into committed coaches/ helpers in the new system.

Hope we dont just stick our heads in the sand and appoint a new manager and expect something to change from simply doing this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2016, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 03, 2016, 11:37:17 PM
My opinion, if some of the existing team stay, bring in someone with a bit of experience, have the squad once a week, the rest of the time with their clubs and give CR a go. Maybe bring a wee bit of pride back into the shirt.
Let's face it even before PJ it was a shambles and his reign certainly didn't help it.
This would give a better foundation for future years.

Apart from that, the new county exec need to improve things largely with underage squads to set a better standard moving forward. This is where the main focus should be.
Plus have a look at the Roscommon way of doing things. Division 4 to 1 means they must be doing something right.

Not that this is the way to have arrived at it, but I think this gives us a serious unprecedented opportunity to have a full and open analysis of where we are and how to improve things.

New Executive should be using this time to look at the system top to bottom and have a costing of what is required coach wise from grass roots through to senior level. This is then ammunition to take to Croke park and say that we have been neglected long enough in terms of employed bodies on the ground.

Yes we have a lack of committed volunteers but I think if a proper and well financed plan was in place that everyone could see and buy into then we might have a chance of turning some of those volunteers into committed coaches/ helpers in the new system.

Hope we dont just stick our heads in the sand and appoint a new manager and expect something to change from simply doing this.

Fully agree with the last bit - we can't just keep appointing new managers and thinking everything will change.

However there seems to be a perception that we  get some sort of raw deal financially. All monies from Croke Park are set out and justified - otherwise every county would be screaming the house down!
And on that point - every single other county in Ireland with plans going to Croke park - and again they need to be justified.
I refer you back to Dr John McSparran and his time in the media and telling us all what he wanted from Croke Park - join the queue! And head back up the road!

I guess what I'm getting at is two-fold:
1) We are not under-funded or being given a raw deal from Croke park regarding money
2) Do not expect some "ach sure it's those lovely Antrim folk" windfall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Also why would croke park throw perfectly good money into a county thats clearly in a complete mess.

If anything they will want to come and look at it and see what the hell has gone wrong.

many people have given up on county hurling in Antrim judging by the poor support it receives, this saga will have pushed people even farther down the track.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 04, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Also why would croke park throw perfectly good money into a county thats clearly in a complete mess.

If anything they will want to come and look at it and see what the hell has gone wrong.

many people have given up on county hurling in Antrim judging by the poor support it receives, this saga will have pushed people even farther down the track.

This would be the point of the analysis, to identify the areas that need improvement and a costing to show how much a plan would take to fix these areas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 04, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Also why would croke park throw perfectly good money into a county thats clearly in a complete mess.

If anything they will want to come and look at it and see what the hell has gone wrong.

many people have given up on county hurling in Antrim judging by the poor support it receives, this saga will have pushed people even farther down the track.

This would be the point of the analysis, to identify the areas that need improvement and a costing to show how much a plan would take to fix these areas.

Not sure what exact areas you are talking about?

Development squads?
Administrations?
Competition structures?
Coaching?
Fixture making?

Some of these are already financed by Croke Park grants - how effective they are made - is up to Antrim - there's no heavenly being going to give us a blank cheque & master-plan ahead of 31 other counties.
For example great reviews of some development squad work from the dedication of likes of Ciaran Kearney which is fantastic now - but the true measure of these is how many players go on to raise Antrim hurling at senior level.
Other areas are not financial issues - just the fine mess we are in ourselves - and we can only get out of ourselves - or not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 04, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 04, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Also why would croke park throw perfectly good money into a county thats clearly in a complete mess.

If anything they will want to come and look at it and see what the hell has gone wrong.

many people have given up on county hurling in Antrim judging by the poor support it receives, this saga will have pushed people even farther down the track.

This would be the point of the analysis, to identify the areas that need improvement and a costing to show how much a plan would take to fix these areas.

Not sure what exact areas you are talking about?

Development squads?
Administrations?
Competition structures?
Coaching?
Fixture making?

Some of these are already financed by Croke Park grants - how effective they are made - is up to Antrim - there's no heavenly being going to give us a blank cheque & master-plan ahead of 31 other counties.
For example great reviews of some development squad work from the dedication of likes of Ciaran Kearney which is fantastic now - but the true measure of these is how many players go on to raise Antrim hurling at senior level.
Other areas are not financial issues - just the fine mess we are in ourselves - and we can only get out of ourselves - or not!

All of these and more, that is what an analysis would be for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Firstly - Brocky is entirely correct.
Schools are a massive missing link in our hurling development.
For a number of reasons GAA can no longer be pushed and developed my teachers - so that's where funding should go.
NOT in development squads which actually are a base for the already better hurlers - but to develop!
Let those better hurlers play with their clubs and continue to progress as they have - put the resource into developing talent in schools!
After all, nearly every main county has a "hurling college" - we need to push resources here -why do we think we can do without it!


NAG - if the Glens are a "hurling stronghold" then why would we invest there?
Surely the investment is needed in areas which need development?
What "special treatment" are you talking about? Does this "special treatment" not need money?


Finally, and not totally related, but I think we need to get real about our actual playing population across Antrim. We might like to think we are a big county - but in terms of actual playing numbers we are small fry!
Take out the Unionists/Protestants across the whole county, take out the areas of Belfast and mid-Antrim which are not traditional GAA areas - then factor in the fact that we are a two-code county - what you are left with is one of the smaller playing populations in Ireland I think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Firstly - Brocky is entirely correct.
Schools are a massive missing link in our hurling development.
For a number of reasons GAA can no longer be pushed and developed my teachers - so that's where funding should go.
NOT in development squads which actually are a base for the already better hurlers - but to develop!
Let those better hurlers play with their clubs and continue to progress as they have - put the resource into developing talent in schools!
After all, nearly every main county has a "hurling college" - we need to push resources here -why do we think we can do without it!


NAG - if the Glens are a "hurling stronghold" then why would we invest there?
Surely the investment is needed in areas which need development?
What "special treatment" are you talking about? Does this "special treatment" not need money?


Finally, and not totally related, but I think we need to get real about our actual playing population across Antrim. We might like to think we are a big county - but in terms of actual playing numbers we are small fry!
Take out the Unionists/Protestants across the whole county, take out the areas of Belfast and mid-Antrim which are not traditional GAA areas - then factor in the fact that we are a two-code county - what you are left with is one of the smaller playing populations in Ireland I think?

Seriously are you not picking this up or what?

I said we need a review to point out to the rest of the country what most hurling people already know, i.e. the areas of deficiency.

NA is a stronghold yet most schools are getting limited coaching time, imagine how much stronger it could be with proper structured coaching plans in place.

Belfast is a special case and that means investment on a large scale....... I thought that was self explanatory.

Until there is a complete look at the structures within the county as a whole we will continue to make bad decisions and invest the limited resource that we have in areas that we always have done.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Where is the loads of information at then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Firstly - Brocky is entirely correct.
Schools are a massive missing link in our hurling development.
For a number of reasons GAA can no longer be pushed and developed my teachers - so that's where funding should go.
NOT in development squads which actually are a base for the already better hurlers - but to develop!
Let those better hurlers play with their clubs and continue to progress as they have - put the resource into developing talent in schools!
After all, nearly every main county has a "hurling college" - we need to push resources here -why do we think we can do without it!


NAG - if the Glens are a "hurling stronghold" then why would we invest there?
Surely the investment is needed in areas which need development?
What "special treatment" are you talking about? Does this "special treatment" not need money?


Finally, and not totally related, but I think we need to get real about our actual playing population across Antrim. We might like to think we are a big county - but in terms of actual playing numbers we are small fry!
Take out the Unionists/Protestants across the whole county, take out the areas of Belfast and mid-Antrim which are not traditional GAA areas - then factor in the fact that we are a two-code county - what you are left with is one of the smaller playing populations in Ireland I think?

Seriously are you not picking this up or what?

I said we need a review to point out to the rest of the country what most hurling people already know, i.e. the areas of deficiency.

NA is a stronghold yet most schools are getting limited coaching time, imagine how much stronger it could be with proper structured coaching plans in place.

Belfast is a special case and that means investment on a large scale....... I thought that was self explanatory.

Until there is a complete look at the structures within the county as a whole we will continue to make bad decisions and invest the limited resource that we have in areas that we always have done.

Spot on, but we've been saying it for years, its doing it that is the main stumbling block... so many people have put the effort in for so long but it loses it's momentum for some reason or another and its back to the start again....  recording developments and finding out what works best for each area is needed as one shoe does not fit all areas....

I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Firstly - Brocky is entirely correct.
Schools are a massive missing link in our hurling development.
For a number of reasons GAA can no longer be pushed and developed my teachers - so that's where funding should go.
NOT in development squads which actually are a base for the already better hurlers - but to develop!
Let those better hurlers play with their clubs and continue to progress as they have - put the resource into developing talent in schools!
After all, nearly every main county has a "hurling college" - we need to push resources here -why do we think we can do without it!


NAG - if the Glens are a "hurling stronghold" then why would we invest there?
Surely the investment is needed in areas which need development?
What "special treatment" are you talking about? Does this "special treatment" not need money?


Finally, and not totally related, but I think we need to get real about our actual playing population across Antrim. We might like to think we are a big county - but in terms of actual playing numbers we are small fry!
Take out the Unionists/Protestants across the whole county, take out the areas of Belfast and mid-Antrim which are not traditional GAA areas - then factor in the fact that we are a two-code county - what you are left with is one of the smaller playing populations in Ireland I think?

Seriously are you not picking this up or what?

I said we need a review to point out to the rest of the country what most hurling people already know, i.e. the areas of deficiency.

NA is a stronghold yet most schools are getting limited coaching time, imagine how much stronger it could be with proper structured coaching plans in place.

Belfast is a special case and that means investment on a large scale....... I thought that was self explanatory.

Until there is a complete look at the structures within the county as a whole we will continue to make bad decisions and invest the limited resource that we have in areas that we always have done.

Whoops! My bad then - sorry read it the wrong way around if u get my drift!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 10:43:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:29:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Firstly - Brocky is entirely correct.
Schools are a massive missing link in our hurling development.
For a number of reasons GAA can no longer be pushed and developed my teachers - so that's where funding should go.
NOT in development squads which actually are a base for the already better hurlers - but to develop!
Let those better hurlers play with their clubs and continue to progress as they have - put the resource into developing talent in schools!
After all, nearly every main county has a "hurling college" - we need to push resources here -why do we think we can do without it!


NAG - if the Glens are a "hurling stronghold" then why would we invest there?
Surely the investment is needed in areas which need development?
What "special treatment" are you talking about? Does this "special treatment" not need money?


Finally, and not totally related, but I think we need to get real about our actual playing population across Antrim. We might like to think we are a big county - but in terms of actual playing numbers we are small fry!
Take out the Unionists/Protestants across the whole county, take out the areas of Belfast and mid-Antrim which are not traditional GAA areas - then factor in the fact that we are a two-code county - what you are left with is one of the smaller playing populations in Ireland I think?

Seriously are you not picking this up or what?

I said we need a review to point out to the rest of the country what most hurling people already know, i.e. the areas of deficiency.

NA is a stronghold yet most schools are getting limited coaching time, imagine how much stronger it could be with proper structured coaching plans in place.

Belfast is a special case and that means investment on a large scale....... I thought that was self explanatory.

Until there is a complete look at the structures within the county as a whole we will continue to make bad decisions and invest the limited resource that we have in areas that we always have done.

Spot on, but we've been saying it for years, its doing it that is the main stumbling block... so many people have put the effort in for so long but it loses it's momentum for some reason or another and its back to the start again....  recording developments and finding out what works best for each area is needed as one shoe does not fit all areas....

I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Ah yes - the problem everyone knows - but no-one wants to confront!

I was hoping the sanction system might alleviate this but who knows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 10:11:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

There is loads of information on this, but my point is North Antrim is a hurling strong hold and deserves more investment, Belfast is the second city and for loads of different reasons requires special treatment.

Yes there loads of good coaches doing lots of good work, but they need help guidance and support. They also need a plan to work toward, maybe that is a bit far fetched for Antrim but it just seems logical to me.

Where is the loads of information at then?

Ulster Council will be able to tell you the number of coaching hours put in by their staff in Antrim and will be able to tell you numbers of kids involved in clubs and number of tournaments played each year etc etc

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

You'll not entice a kid to play and stay playing hurling on the back of a few primary school visits. Not saying more wouldn't help but finance is always a factor.
Its a tough sport to develop as it needs significant numbers of coaches with the right knowledge to develop the skills and long-term interest in those players.

Some boys wouldn't be that interested in coaching courses no matter how many chances the are to get to them and learn a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 11:22:45 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

You'll not entice a kid to play and stay playing hurling on the back of a few primary school visits. Not saying more wouldn't help but finance is always a factor.
Its a tough sport to develop as it needs significant numbers of coaches with the right knowledge to develop the skills and long-term interest in those players.

Some boys wouldn't be that interested in coaching courses no matter how many chances the are to get to them and learn a bit

+1

But my thinking would be give them more opportunity to play the game at school through employed coaches and then try to convert this to clubs numbers etc

Hopefully improving both number of kids involved and the quality of said kids.

I know it seems simplistic but suppose we need to start somewhere. Not deriding or bemoaning the good work that is already going in, just looking to supplement it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Justanopinion on April 05, 2016, 11:52:27 AM
I don't think anyone should knock the work that has went into the schools in recent times and with the success of Cross and Passion, St Mary's CBS and lately St Louis we are starting to bear fruit but there is still a long way to go.

For me it's always about continual improvement, never rest on what we might have achieved.  Continue the work started in the schools and look for new ways to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 04, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
Agree with nag1. But in top of that we need coaches going into the schools.
I don't know but I would like to know, how many schools in Antrim have coaches visit them to encourage the kids.
I know rural parishes like loughgiel dunloy Cushendall will take care of this generally themselves but what about Belfast Ballymena etc..
Is there any information available on this.

You'll not entice a kid to play and stay playing hurling on the back of a few primary school visits. Not saying more wouldn't help but finance is always a factor.
Its a tough sport to develop as it needs significant numbers of coaches with the right knowledge to develop the skills and long-term interest in those players.

Some boys wouldn't be that interested in coaching courses no matter how many chances the are to get to them and learn a bit

If you don't get the kids interested at schools, where else do you get them.
I agree it will take a lot of finances to get the adequate level of coaches on a regular basis but what better chance is there of capturing them into the gaa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on April 05, 2016, 11:57:44 AM
btdtgtt - your numbers don't stack re smallest playing population...
2011 census - Klkenny (county not town) 95k, West Belfast (on its own, not whole county) 93k

investment in Belfast and lots of it - 5/10 year plans maybe academy type models / dev squads coaches the whole heap. More regular leagues/ Go Games at u8/10 all year long and properly organised in advance.
- best example of this is Davitts, for the first time in years theyve kids on dev squads and compete in every single Go Games, Competition (maybe somtimes amalgamated) from p1/2 to under 14. they have put huge work into capturing the kids at very early age and now 30 or so all from Lower Falls playing U6/8/10.
investment in SW Antrim were little hurling happens  - nothing happening under age at all!! Creggan & LochMor the exception been totally ignored by the hurling fraternity forever.
Let Nth Antrim crack on as they seem to have their house in order in terms of developing hurling.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 05, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 05, 2016, 11:57:44 AM
btdtgtt - your numbers don't stack re smallest playing population...
2011 census - Klkenny (county not town) 95k, West Belfast (on its own, not whole county) 93k

investment in Belfast and lots of it - 5/10 year plans maybe academy type models / dev squads coaches the whole heap. More regular leagues/ Go Games at u8/10 all year long and properly organised in advance.
- best example of this is Davitts, for the first time in years theyve kids on dev squads and compete in every single Go Games, Competition (maybe somtimes amalgamated) from p1/2 to under 14. they have put huge work into capturing the kids at very early age and now 30 or so all from Lower Falls playing U6/8/10.
investment in SW Antrim were little hurling happens  - nothing happening under age at all!! Creggan & LochMor the exception been totally ignored by the hurling fraternity forever.
Let Nth Antrim crack on as they seem to have their house in order in terms of developing hurling.

Hes taking into account the fact that 3/4 of the county of antrim are unionist then you have people within that quarter that are nationalist who dont have any interest in the GAA and then some who have no interest in hurling.

It does limit the playing resources in this county more so than any other in Ireland.

Theres also a big catchment in the SW who dont even cater for hurling in Cargin, Moneyglass area. How many hurlers are slipping through the net there. Cargin recently started up camogie after a long lapse and in their first season won the Antrim junior championship and ulster shield. It has went from strength to strength and are now producing under age teams from U8 to U14.

It can be done if the right people are in place and the will and desire are also there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 05, 2016, 11:57:44 AM
btdtgtt - your numbers don't stack re smallest playing population...
2011 census - Klkenny (county not town) 95k, West Belfast (on its own, not whole county) 93k

investment in Belfast and lots of it - 5/10 year plans maybe academy type models / dev squads coaches the whole heap. More regular leagues/ Go Games at u8/10 all year long and properly organised in advance.
- best example of this is Davitts, for the first time in years theyve kids on dev squads and compete in every single Go Games, Competition (maybe somtimes amalgamated) from p1/2 to under 14. they have put huge work into capturing the kids at very early age and now 30 or so all from Lower Falls playing U6/8/10.
investment in SW Antrim were little hurling happens  - nothing happening under age at all!! Creggan & LochMor the exception been totally ignored by the hurling fraternity forever.
Let Nth Antrim crack on as they seem to have their house in order in terms of developing hurling.

Key word - PLAYING population. You've actually just proved my point.
You are quoting the population figures, the point I'm making is the number of these people who actually PLAY our sports!
We are fixated by quoting the number of people who live in our city/county.
But there's settlements much smaller - but with bigger playing populations.

Great work going on in Davitts, but there are more Clubs seeing diminishing numbers.
That's just fact - look at the number of amalgamations teams / sanctions / non-fielding teams.
Bigger clubs just about fielding - when before they had 2 teams at certain ages!
If you think the playing population is healthy - you are quite simply wrong!

Also, some schools deserve great credit - Trojan effort.
That said, sometimes it's a result of a strong club supplying them.
Agree fully - it's more than a matter of throwing a few coaches in now and again.
Firstly - I'm talking about primary schools - it can be too late by secondary school age.
Massive effort needed and co-ordinated to last - not done on a whim.
Sustained throughout years - not in blocks between different schools.
Inter-class leagues in primary schools - and inter-school leagues.
Give the kids a hurl, a sliotar, a jersey, a trophy, let them play in Casement (?!) - you get the drift!
Quality trained coaches infused throughout every single school, and no child left wondering where is nearest Club might be. Push them to it! Get them on a bus if need be! The coaches in the schools liaise with the Clubs etc!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Important to remember here that St Johns and Rossa have by far the best record at juvenile level over the past lot of years. In the context of that fact, what do you think creating super clubs would do? Doesn't sound like a good or practical solution that'll develop the game. It'll do the opposite in my opinion.

More kids playing the game at the appropriate skill level for their age has to be the goal. Not filtering out kids who can't cut it in a super club system. 

I think the quality of coaching in clubs right across the county should be made the focus with a view to understanding the gaps and working with clubs to develop their coaching resources and providing them with support in the early to medium stages of any planned initiative. The downfall of anything changing could be the disease of apathy which plagues this part of the world. 

Brocky
In regard to the work that has went on in Secondary level Schools.
I've never seen a school, 'develop develop' a hurler. They arrive at the school gates with whatever skill level they have developed with their clubs and the schools will 'make hay' n the back of that IMO. That's not saying that experiencing success with a school team doesn't bring them up a notch because I'm sure it does and credit to the work that is done with them as they put in serious effort. But the non successful schools/school years will go through the motions and do next to nothing to develop their players IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Important to remember here that St Johns and Rossa have by far the best record at juvenile level over the past lot of years. In the context of that fact, what do you think creating super clubs would do? Doesn't sound like a good or practical solution that'll develop the game. It'll do the opposite in my opinion.

More kids playing the game at the appropriate skill level for their age has to be the goal. Not filtering out kids who can't cut it in a super club system. 

I think the quality of coaching in clubs right across the county should be made the focus with a view to understanding the gaps and working with clubs to develop their coaching resources and providing them with support in the early to medium stages of any planned initiative. The downfall of anything changing could be the disease of apathy which plagues this part of the world. 

Brocky
In regard to the work that has went on in Secondary level Schools.
I've never seen a school, 'develop develop' a hurler. They arrive at the school gates with whatever skill level they have developed with their clubs and the schools will 'make hay' n the back of that IMO. That's not saying that experiencing success with a school team doesn't bring them up a notch because I'm sure it does and credit to the work that is done with them as they put in serious effort. But the non successful schools/school years will go through the motions and do next to nothing to develop their players IMO.

When there only 5/6 kids at under 8's up its very difficult to embed good coaching with a view to organising games and keeping interest there... This view of getting good coaches at all levels within a club is brilliant but ultimately flawed and each fecking coach believes his way is better than a standard approach and sticking to the system usually falls flat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Important to remember here that St Johns and Rossa have by far the best record at juvenile level over the past lot of years. In the context of that fact, what do you think creating super clubs would do? Doesn't sound like a good or practical solution that'll develop the game. It'll do the opposite in my opinion.

More kids playing the game at the appropriate skill level for their age has to be the goal. Not filtering out kids who can't cut it in a super club system. 

I think the quality of coaching in clubs right across the county should be made the focus with a view to understanding the gaps and working with clubs to develop their coaching resources and providing them with support in the early to medium stages of any planned initiative. The downfall of anything changing could be the disease of apathy which plagues this part of the world. 

Brocky
In regard to the work that has went on in Secondary level Schools.
I've never seen a school, 'develop develop' a hurler. They arrive at the school gates with whatever skill level they have developed with their clubs and the schools will 'make hay' n the back of that IMO. That's not saying that experiencing success with a school team doesn't bring them up a notch because I'm sure it does and credit to the work that is done with them as they put in serious effort. But the non successful schools/school years will go through the motions and do next to nothing to develop their players IMO.

True skull. Agree all round.
But the same point I made with development squads applies to Rossa & St Johns.
Their real measure is how they progress hurlers to senior level.

I think the point myself and MR2 were making (and in no way suggesting Rossa & St Johns are "super clubs") is that we lose far 2 many young hurlers because they are at clubs which do not pursue the game. Maybe their club doesn't field, or they get fed up getting stuffed every week - so they fall away from the sport altogether. They are a loss to everyone in Antrim - not just to their club. We're not sure how to deal with it - but we are sure it's happening far 2 often!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
He can't be 'effin' serious can he  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
He can't be 'effin' serious can he  >:(

That would explain the betting then. Just trying to get their expenses back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 05, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
Fuk me, money then, is that the reason.

I give up, i must rem to see how much im owed for going to work this morning at 6.30am, home at 6pm and straight to the pitch 3 nights a week for trainings and matches with teams im involved with. Having to ask my boss to get out at 4.30 tomorrow to head to a friendly in co derry and drive like a lunatic to make it time for the players.

Money

Im glad thats why i do it.

Fcuk clean off!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroimabu11 on April 05, 2016, 01:57:25 PM
Good to see Liam Watson still knows how to make a fool of himself. The county involved in 2 major financial scandals and he gives an interview complaining the players weren't being paid enough. Is he stupid? The GAA is an amateur sport, you aren't supposed to be getting paid. Why should anyone be PAID for playing a sport we all love? I have no issue with players/coaches being reimbursed for travel etc. But no-one should be PROFITING from playing GAA. No one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 05, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Important to remember here that St Johns and Rossa have by far the best record at juvenile level over the past lot of years. In the context of that fact, what do you think creating super clubs would do? Doesn't sound like a good or practical solution that'll develop the game. It'll do the opposite in my opinion.

More kids playing the game at the appropriate skill level for their age has to be the goal. Not filtering out kids who can't cut it in a super club system. 

I think the quality of coaching in clubs right across the county should be made the focus with a view to understanding the gaps and working with clubs to develop their coaching resources and providing them with support in the early to medium stages of any planned initiative. The downfall of anything changing could be the disease of apathy which plagues this part of the world. 

Brocky
In regard to the work that has went on in Secondary level Schools.
I've never seen a school, 'develop develop' a hurler. They arrive at the school gates with whatever skill level they have developed with their clubs and the schools will 'make hay' n the back of that IMO. That's not saying that experiencing success with a school team doesn't bring them up a notch because I'm sure it does and credit to the work that is done with them as they put in serious effort. But the non successful schools/school years will go through the motions and do next to nothing to develop their players IMO.

When there only 5/6 kids at under 8's up its very difficult to embed good coaching with a view to organising games and keeping interest there... This view of getting good coaches at all levels within a club is brilliant but ultimately flawed and each fecking coach believes his way is better than a standard approach and sticking to the system usually falls flat

Get a structured program in place in terms of appropriate skill sets to be coached at each stage as agreed by the whole club. Get someone strong enough to enforce it amongst the coaches and support them in their efforts in delivering said program. If a coach strays from the path then attempt to explain the error in their ways and if that falls on deaf ears gradually reduce their inputs with the age groups.

We don't allow our P3/P4 team to lift and strike the ball in the air until they are comfortable striking off both sides on the ground and have a decent ability at the belly and claw catch. I've had a team refuse to play us at a blitz because of it, as they wanted to lift and even had to argue my point with a full time coach on the same issue. The reasoning is that once they do start to lift, striking off both sides in the air is a natural progression. A youngster who's lifting the ball and one sided (irrespective of the grip) is hard to coach on their weaker side as the confidence in that stroke wasn't achieved on the ground.
Basic targets are that all P1/P2 grip the hurl with the dominant hand and build from there. Get that wrong and everything else is a struggle IMO.
We'd agreed as a club that there were certain targets that need met before other skills could be taught and hope to stick with that for the foreseeable future although its always open to review and updating.

btdtgtt,
    I understand your point on youngsters not wanting to get stuffed week in week out, but if GO games are administered right both by whoever is overseeing it and the coaches not making a big deal about the score then extenuate the positives even if they are light on the ground. As they come out of GO Games and hit the full 15 aside game, then yes, I can see that as a problem, but by then you need to have developed those youngster have a strong affinity with the club and not want them to go play with thon other shower!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 05, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 10:13:48 AM
I still believe we've too many clubs in Belfast, if there were less clubs, but more teams within the clubs that are coaching correctly and with intensity then we'd produce better teams.... Dublin teams have 4/5 senior teams within some of the bigger clubs with a development and coaching plan in place to ensure that the style of hurling is brought through from juvenile up... what we have are some clubs with 6/7 core players and then lads with little or no interest playing for that team and not getting any better, those lads with little interest to put the effort in but still want to play can do that with the junior teams ..... once we get over losing our identities then Antrim will produce better hurlers in Belfast..

Important to remember here that St Johns and Rossa have by far the best record at juvenile level over the past lot of years. In the context of that fact, what do you think creating super clubs would do? Doesn't sound like a good or practical solution that'll develop the game. It'll do the opposite in my opinion.

More kids playing the game at the appropriate skill level for their age has to be the goal. Not filtering out kids who can't cut it in a super club system. 

I think the quality of coaching in clubs right across the county should be made the focus with a view to understanding the gaps and working with clubs to develop their coaching resources and providing them with support in the early to medium stages of any planned initiative. The downfall of anything changing could be the disease of apathy which plagues this part of the world. 

Brocky
In regard to the work that has went on in Secondary level Schools.
I've never seen a school, 'develop develop' a hurler. They arrive at the school gates with whatever skill level they have developed with their clubs and the schools will 'make hay' n the back of that IMO. That's not saying that experiencing success with a school team doesn't bring them up a notch because I'm sure it does and credit to the work that is done with them as they put in serious effort. But the non successful schools/school years will go through the motions and do next to nothing to develop their players IMO.

When there only 5/6 kids at under 8's up its very difficult to embed good coaching with a view to organising games and keeping interest there... This view of getting good coaches at all levels within a club is brilliant but ultimately flawed and each fecking coach believes his way is better than a standard approach and sticking to the system usually falls flat

Get a structured program in place in terms of appropriate skill sets to be coached at each stage as agreed by the whole club. Get someone strong enough to enforce it amongst the coaches and support them in their efforts in delivering said program. If a coach strays from the path then attempt to explain the error in their ways and if that falls on deaf ears gradually reduce their inputs with the age groups.

We don't allow our P3/P4 team to lift and strike the ball in the air until they are comfortable striking off both sides on the ground and have a decent ability at the belly and claw catch. I've had a team refuse to play us at a blitz because of it, as they wanted to lift and even had to argue my point with a full time coach on the same issue. The reasoning is that once they do start to lift, striking off both sides in the air is a natural progression. A youngster who's lifting the ball and one sided (irrespective of the grip) is hard to coach on their weaker side as the confidence in that stroke wasn't achieved on the ground.
Basic targets are that all P1/P2 grip the hurl with the dominant hand and build from there. Get that wrong and everything else is a struggle IMO.
We'd agreed as a club that there were certain targets that need met before other skills could be taught and hope to stick with that for the foreseeable future although its always open to review and updating.

btdtgtt,
    I understand your point on youngsters not wanting to get stuffed week in week out, but if GO games are administered right both by whoever is overseeing it and the coaches not making a big deal about the score then extenuate the positives even if they are light on the ground. As they come out of GO Games and hit the full 15 aside game, then yes, I can see that as a problem, but by then you need to have developed those youngster have a strong affinity with the club and not want them to go play with thon other shower!!


It's the ages above Go-Games JC - we have great hurlers in the City at say U12, but by U16 their club doesn't field and so the players have stopped playing. Maybe they kick some football just.

Interesting point about not letting the kids lift & strike until they can play off the ground with both sides! Really like that!

What's the Watson story?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 02:20:47 PM
Liam Watson says he dropped off the Antrim senior hurling panel partly because the players had their expenses cut.

A combintion of disillusionment and lack of time led to the 33-year-old dropping out midway through the Glensmen's fruitless Division 2A campaign and he has alluded to how a lack of funds is placing Antrim hurling under severe pressure:

"We were asked to take pay cuts. What's the point in going out for six nights a week if you know you are having to take a pay cut? That's where the whole fun thing comes into it. You just ask, 'what's the point?'," the Loughgiel ace states in The Belfast Telegraph

"I left the panel before the London game. I just wasn't happy with the way things were going.

"You can't cut the players. It's not the players' fault things are bad. We are always being told we would get what we needed, but there would be a cut in it. They couldn't even get us all an Antrim hurling bag. We were coming to matches and training in our club stuff and then we are trying to get club rivalry out of the way!

"We asked for gear, but it's stuff from years ago. O'Neill's are our kit makers. You go into their shops and you see there are a pile of nice new hoodies out. Antrim players weren't getting them. What's the point in going half-hearted, saying you want Antrim to do well, but not giving the backing?

"I don't like complaining about it, because then people say, 'all you want is a tracksuit', but it's not. We want support."


For those who haven't had the chance to read it yet.

Can't say I'm suprised though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 02:35:34 PM
Not surprised although still cringe inducing. The least said the better I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on April 05, 2016, 03:18:25 PM
"We were asked to take pay cuts..." ::).  An embarrassment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 05, 2016, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 05, 2016, 03:18:25 PM
"We were asked to take pay cuts..." ::).  An embarrassment.

Did we expect any less from this gobshite. I used to feel sorry for Liam and always wished him well but he's turning into a serious pr*ck!

After watching him play for the county this year his best days are long behind him. He would be wiser to keep his mouth shut and enjoy what little playing time he has with his club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on April 05, 2016, 04:04:03 PM
Watson is finished at county level - watched him against Carlow and he was anonymous, he's nearly 34 and his best days are behind him. Time to focus on youth 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Liams choice of words are not the best but rather than go on the Liam bashing does it not show up a bigger problem. We want a professional county set up but aren't willing to pay for it. No kit bag no training gear, cutting travelling expenses,  but we want you on board as part of Team Antrim. Other counties look after their players. I know the county board have to run a tight financial ship but to me that is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 05, 2016, 04:22:31 PM
Surley the cost of the overnight stay in London would have covered the gear?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Liams choice of words are not the best but rather than go on the Liam bashing does it not show up a bigger problem. We want a professional county set up but aren't willing to pay for it. No kit bag no training gear, cutting travelling expenses,  but we want you on board as part of Team Antrim. Other counties look after their players. I know the county board have to run a tight financial ship but to me that is ridiculous.

No it doesnt it highlights the attitude of 'some' of this current squad.

Ask yourself the question, why was there a discussion around travelling expenses when this is a right of players coming from croke park?

Flown to London the day before, over night stays.

Team preparation weekends, the list goes on and on.

Also ask yourself the question why would said player be questioning this now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Liams choice of words are not the best but rather than go on the Liam bashing does it not show up a bigger problem. We want a professional county set up but aren't willing to pay for it. No kit bag no training gear, cutting travelling expenses,  but we want you on board as part of Team Antrim. Other counties look after their players. I know the county board have to run a tight financial ship but to me that is ridiculous. 


Well maybe if the overnight stay in London and the supposed £200 spending money per panel member wasn't needed and the expenses to the former manager and backroom team weren't as high as they supposedly were, then maybe there would of been enough in the budget for bags etc.

Watson has had his time & day in the sun, he's been found out this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Liams choice of words are not the best but rather than go on the Liam bashing does it not show up a bigger problem. We want a professional county set up but aren't willing to pay for it. No kit bag no training gear, cutting travelling expenses,  but we want you on board as part of Team Antrim. Other counties look after their players. I know the county board have to run a tight financial ship but to me that is ridiculous.

No it doesnt it highlights the attitude of 'some' of this current squad.

Ask yourself the question, why was there a discussion around travelling expenses when this is a right of players coming from croke park?

Flown to London the day before, over night stays.

Team preparation weekends, the list goes on and on.

Also ask yourself the question why would said player be questioning this now?

Agreed the attitude of some of the squad past and present is awful. But this isn't what this is about. I see it more as fair play.
Overnight stay in London? Why not, if I was a manager I would insist on that. A 4am start on the day of a match isn't good preparation, although every manager may have a different view.
Discussions around travelling expenses, surely this should be set in stone as you say, and if not paid do you mean someone was fiddling expenses or what are you insinuating.

Team preparation weekends again for counties like ours with no suitable competition close how else do you prepare to play better opposition, you're clutching at straws just to bash someone. Come up with something constructive on a way forward for once.

Said player probably questioning it now as a journalist asked him in an interview.

Regarding expenses to management - I'm pretty sure the executive knew fill well what they were getting into.

I still haven't seen a better player in Antrim than Liam watson. And I just wish we had more of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 04:18:46 PM
Liams choice of words are not the best but rather than go on the Liam bashing does it not show up a bigger problem. We want a professional county set up but aren't willing to pay for it. No kit bag no training gear, cutting travelling expenses,  but we want you on board as part of Team Antrim. Other counties look after their players. I know the county board have to run a tight financial ship but to me that is ridiculous.

No it doesnt it highlights the attitude of 'some' of this current squad.

Ask yourself the question, why was there a discussion around travelling expenses when this is a right of players coming from croke park?

Flown to London the day before, over night stays.

Team preparation weekends, the list goes on and on.

Also ask yourself the question why would said player be questioning this now?

Agreed the attitude of some of the squad past and present is awful. But this isn't what this is about. I see it more as fair play.
Overnight stay in London? Why not, if I was a manager I would insist on that. A 4am start on the day of a match isn't good preparation, although every manager may have a different view.
Discussions around travelling expenses, surely this should be set in stone as you say, and if not paid do you mean someone was fiddling expenses or what are you insinuating.

Team preparation weekends again for counties like ours with no suitable competition close how else do you prepare to play better opposition, you're clutching at straws just to bash someone. Come up with something constructive on a way forward for once.

Said player probably questioning it now as a journalist asked him in an interview.

Regarding expenses to management - I'm pretty sure the executive knew fill well what they were getting into.

I still haven't seen a better player in Antrim than Liam watson. And I just wish we had more of him.

Ok  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 05, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
Look hes off yet another panel. Forget about him and move on. His comments will have made a lot of antrim fans angry who travel the country supporting a team that lets them down all the time costing them a fortune.

All we need is support!

Do not make me laugh. Jesus.

A great hurler in his day, one of the best ive seen, but his time is done as being the best about. Time to look to antrims youth as our future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 05, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 02:20:47 PM
Liam Watson says he dropped off the Antrim senior hurling panel partly because the players had their expenses cut.

A combintion of disillusionment and lack of time led to the 33-year-old dropping out midway through the Glensmen's fruitless Division 2A campaign and he has alluded to how a lack of funds is placing Antrim hurling under severe pressure:

"We were asked to take pay cuts. What's the point in going out for six nights a week if you know you are having to take a pay cut? That's where the whole fun thing comes into it. You just ask, 'what's the point?'," the Loughgiel ace states in The Belfast Telegraph

"I left the panel before the London game. I just wasn't happy with the way things were going.

"You can't cut the players. It's not the players' fault things are bad. We are always being told we would get what we needed, but there would be a cut in it. They couldn't even get us all an Antrim hurling bag. We were coming to matches and training in our club stuff and then we are trying to get club rivalry out of the way!

"We asked for gear, but it's stuff from years ago. O'Neill's are our kit makers. You go into their shops and you see there are a pile of nice new hoodies out. Antrim players weren't getting them. What's the point in going half-hearted, saying you want Antrim to do well, but not giving the backing?

"I don't like complaining about it, because then people say, 'all you want is a tracksuit', but it's not. We want support."


For those who haven't had the chance to read it yet.

Can't say I'm suprised though.

We all know players from accross our clubs who gave the best of their hurling career to playing for the county and most of them done it for the love of the sport and not the money.

Granted the players should not be out of pocket but how can he be claiming that the expences are cut when that is set by croke park.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 05, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
Wouldn't be the first controversial interview Liam has given in fairness.  When I think of the great players Antrim has had over the years.  And a lot of the best we ever had was at the county for the love of the jersey and for 50p a mile. Maybe fecking less. Am not standing up for him. But when you look at a lot of other counties and what they get. He has a point to a certain degree. Just could and should have worded it differently.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 05:02:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 05, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
Look hes off yet another panel. Forget about him and move on. His comments will have made a lot of antrim fans angry who travel the country supporting a team that lets them down all the time costing them a fortune.

All we need is support!

Do not make me laugh. Jesus.

A great hurler in his day, one of the best ive seen, but his time is done as being the best about. Time to look to antrims youth as our future.

Yes he's off the panel and happy with his club. Fair enough.
But what I said was it highlighted problems with finances in the county,
I don't know all issues with the past management and why exactly he got the boot but finances seem to be a big issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 05:03:19 PM
Car pooling isn't the done thing these days from what I've heard.  :-\

Should someone at executive level who knows our financial position try to keep a hold of the purse strings and keep spending to a minimum by suggesting alternative ways for players to get to training. i.e share with a club mate? I think they have a duty to do that. But it seem the sense of entitlement is strong compared to the ordinary joe bloggs gaa nut.

Expenses ... the way to 'get paid' in the GAA  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 05:08:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 05:03:19 PM
Car pooling isn't the done thing these days from what I've heard.  :-\

Should someone at executive level who knows our financial position try to keep a hold of the purse strings and keep spending to a minimum by suggesting alternative ways for players to get to training. i.e share with a club mate? I think they have a duty to do that. But it seem the sense of entitlement is strong compared to the ordinary joe bloggs gaa nut.

Expenses ... the way to 'get paid' in the GAA  :-\


AFAIK skull this was the case when things got a little out of control.

On the interview timing and context is everything and this benefitted from neither.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 05:03:19 PM
Car pooling isn't the done thing these days from what I've heard.  :-\
!

Should someone at executive level who knows our financial position try to keep a hold of the purse strings and keep spending to a minimum by suggesting alternative ways for players to get to training. i.e share with a club mate? I think they have a duty to do that. But it seem the sense of entitlement is strong compared to the ordinary joe bloggs gaa nut.

Expenses ... the way to 'get paid' in the GAA  :-\


Fair enough. As I said I dont know all the issues.

I see the county board have came out fighting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 05, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
Sambo is the new manager
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 05, 2016, 05:38:36 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 05, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
Sambo is the new manager
could have guessed that.  Antrims favorite son.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 05, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
Sambo is the new manager

I would think it's a temporary thing for the christy ring and see what happens after that. He's nothing to lose now. Win it and he's great. Lose and sure look at the state of it beforehand. Still think he's a good coach and not a good manager.
Take charge for a couple of months and we'll pay you the money we held back on expenses - good deal 😁
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on April 05, 2016, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 05, 2016, 05:33:16 PM
Sambo is the new manager

Great choice, hope he takes no nonsense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 06:48:51 PM
Just for a moment - consider what Sambo has given to Antrim against what Liam Watson has given for Antrim?
Maybe that says enough.

So the Belfast telegraph decided to ring Watson for a quick quote about the current situation - the paper couldn't care less about GAA - and Watson turned it into a diatribe essentially about himself.

The county statement refutes basically all of it - but will that bring the attention back or un-do watsons slanging - no.
What did Sambo do?
Put his shoulder to the wheel.

A great club all Ireland indeed Watson had - but in an Antrim jersey compare him to the side Sambo hurled on in 89? They don't compare.

I think it's long overdue that Liam Watson faded to obscurity and let's hope journalists lookin cheap inches lose his number.

*no reason to compare the two other than illustration given current circumstances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 06:48:51 PM
Just for a moment - consider what Sambo has given to Antrim against what Liam Watson has given for Antrim?
Maybe that says enough.

So the Belfast telegraph decided to ring Watson for a quick quote about the current situation - the paper couldn't care less about GAA - and Watson turned it into a diatribe essentially about himself.

The county statement refutes basically all of it - but will that bring the attention back or un-do watsons slanging - no.
What did Sambo do?
Put his shoulder to the wheel.

A great club all Ireland indeed Watson had - but in an Antrim jersey compare him to the side Sambo hurled on in 89? They don't compare.

I think it's long overdue that Liam Watson faded to obscurity and let's hope journalists lookin cheap inches lose his number.

*no reason to compare the two other than illustration given current circumstances.

Bang on the money!

Watson has achieved exactly what he wanted, he's got attention and got people talking about him. As DR said a few posts back, forget about him, he's gone.

Move on with Sambo in a temporary basis and put some pride back in the jersey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroimabu11 on April 05, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Couldn't agree more BTDTGTT.

Hope the players get behind Sambo and win the Christy Ring. God knows we've had little to cheer about recently but this could be the kick-start we need.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
I wonder if they have to go to London in christy ring will there be an overnight stay involved?
Maybe the expenses will be paid straight into their paddy power accounts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
I wonder if they have to go to London in christy ring will there be an overnight stay involved?
Maybe the expenses will be paid straight into their paddy power accounts.

That's some change of opinion in the space of a few posts  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
I wonder if they have to go to London in christy ring will there be an overnight stay involved?
Maybe the expenses will be paid straight into their paddy power accounts.

That's some change of opinion in the space of a few posts  ;)

Are you too dumb to realise I'm being a little sarcastic. Sorry, of course you do, that's what you deal in when you've feck all else to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 08:37:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
I wonder if they have to go to London in christy ring will there be an overnight stay involved?
Maybe the expenses will be paid straight into their paddy power accounts.

That's some change of opinion in the space of a few posts  ;)

Are you too dumb to realise I'm being a little sarcastic. Sorry, of course you do, that's what you deal in when you've feck all else to say.

Not two pages ago you were lauding the fact that they were rightly allowed to stay in London for the game and giving off about them not getting their expenses they were entitled.

Now you are slagging them for the betting and on the wind up about the expenses.

I can see your sarcasm it's the bipolar nature of your posts that is more difficult to fathom.

Ps not that I can be bothered getting into it with you but if you read back over the last few pages you will see my opinions on the way forward but hey why let that get in the way of your selective reading.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 09:16:38 PM
Bipolar now thanks for that.
I will wait to see if there's an outcry if there are any overnight stays in sambos term, as before I would but not all agree with me.
It just seems to me on this board that some things are okay for some managers and players to do but not others. But then that depends on what club you're from or in some cases what club you don't like.

Ps as for your point of view, some of it made sense and some of it was just bitterness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 05, 2016, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 09:16:38 PM
Bipolar now thanks for that.
I will wait to see if there's an outcry if there are any overnight stays in sambos term, as before I would but not all agree with me.
It just seems to me on this board that some things are okay for some managers and players to do but not others. But then that depends on what club you're from or in some cases what club you don't like.

Ps as for your point of view, some of it made sense and some of it was just bitterness.

Please check why an antrim fan might have an issue with this current squad having over night stays whether it be in London or elsewhere on training weekends and then you might understand why.

No bitterness here, as an Antrim fan I would be expecting a level of conduct from any squad representing my county regardless of who is in Charge from any club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 09:40:46 PM
I think a non Cdall or LG manager would have been a better choice but hope I'm completely wrong with that concern
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 09:44:35 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 09:16:38 PM
Bipolar now thanks for that.
I will wait to see if there's an outcry if there are any overnight stays in sambos term, as before I would but not all agree with me.
It just seems to me on this board that some things are okay for some managers and players to do but not others. But then that depends on what club you're from or in some cases what club you don't like.

Ps as for your point of view, some of it made sense and some of it was just bitterness.

Sure isn't that the beauty of the GAA!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 09:40:46 PM
I think a non Cdall or LG manager would have been a better choice but hope I'm completely wrong with that concern

That's maybe why dick o kane and woody are reported to be along with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 05, 2016, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 05, 2016, 09:40:46 PM
I think a non Cdall or LG manager would have been a better choice but hope I'm completely wrong with that concern

That's maybe why dick o kane and woody are reported to be along with him.
And Neil peden.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 05, 2016, 10:48:10 PM

I see the county board have came out fighting
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Is there a statement somewhere from CB?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 05, 2016, 11:01:58 PM
STATEMENT FROM ANTRIM COUNTY BOARD
The Antrim GAA County Board wishes to refute in the strongest possible terms the erroneous allegations about player welfare that have been made against Antrim GAA by a former county hurler.
Allegations that players were "asked to take a cut" in their mileage expenses are completely false.
Similarly, claims that the Antrim senior hurling squad have been denied adequate playing gear are without foundation.
Our players received all of the gear that they were entitled to.
Following a meeting on the 24th February 2016, involving the players, team management, and Co board officials a system of paying expenses was formulated. This was agreed by all parties.
After a difficult start to the 2016 season, and the disappointing decision of PJ O'Mullan to step down from his role as senior team manager, this is an important time for all of those with a vested interest in the development of Antrim hurling to pull together.
Antrim GAA is committed to enabling our players at every level to be the best they can be and to be competitive on the national stage.
It is regrettable that an attempt has been made to deflect from where our focus needs to be, but we are committed to working with the players to ensure Antrim hurling makes strong strides forward throughout the rest of the 2016 season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
So we're back to the normal topic of, Loughgiel and Cushendall hatred again?? Didn't take long always something somebody to keep her lit!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 05, 2016, 11:24:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
So we're back to the normal topic of, Loughgiel and Cushendall hatred again?? Didn't take long always something somebody to keep her lit!!

Well considering some of the main people involved in Antrim GAA'S most recent news is it any wonder.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 05, 2016, 11:28:26 PM
FFS will the press stop putting a mic in front of this clown. its not the first time hes made an idiot out of himself but enough is enough
good to see the CB respond
Hes finished at county level now anyway so this should be his dying kick on the national press stage anyway
what an embarrassment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 11:41:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
So we're back to the normal topic of, Loughgiel and Cushendall hatred again?? Didn't take long always something somebody to keep her lit!!
[/

Maybe their should be a North Antrim page & a South Antrim page? The 2/3 biggest topics in the last 3 weeks apart from the Battle of Belfast has involved people from these clubs so can we not talk about them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!


Can't let that pass without also welcoming with the county statement!
It's nice to be able to praise them!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 05, 2016, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!


Can't let that pass without also welcoming with the county statement!
It's nice to be able to praise them!

Yeah have to agree it is nice to see them stand their ground on this and come back with something.

And for once I dont think anyone was pointing fingers in the direction of the CB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 05, 2016, 11:41:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 05, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
So we're back to the normal topic of, Loughgiel and Cushendall hatred again?? Didn't take long always something somebody to keep her lit!!
[/

Maybe their should be a North Antrim page & a South Antrim page? The 2/3 biggest topics in the last 3 weeks apart from the Battle of Belfast has involved people from these clubs so can we not talk about them?

Yeah I don't mind, great to see two clubs slagging each other off and hoping that each other fail or if members of their club fail as county managers  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 06, 2016, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
That couldn't be true!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 10:20:27 AM
Got to love this board. All these bits of info. If true this is nuts. How would you even think that you'd get reimbursed for this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on April 06, 2016, 10:43:07 AM
I have heard of Travel expences going in for someone who can't drive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 10:45:47 AM
Time to move on?

The previous manager et al have now moved on, most of us have a fair idea of mistakes and errors that were made under this regime but what good is it going to do anyone going over and over them.

Learn from the mistakes and move forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
Agreed

Bar one clown ranting to the press and leaving out his own traits the rest is dealt with
And the less he's talked about the better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 06, 2016, 11:11:27 AM
It seems like it happens all the time.

Dinny, Kevin and now PJ. same mistakes made, more or less the same people about. When will we ever learn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
what a load of scurrilous bs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
what a load of scurrilous bs.

Sure there's that much stuff flying about SIE, sleeping dogs and all that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
what a load of scurrilous bs.

Sure there's that much stuff flying about SIE, sleeping dogs and all that.
I know lad but when you see blatant lies posted up willy nilly  somebody has to say something.  Unless a well known loughgiel milkman has changed jobs to taxi man then I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
what a load of scurrilous bs.

Sure there's that much stuff flying about SIE, sleeping dogs and all that.
I know lad but when you see blatant lies posted up willy nilly  somebody has to say something.  Unless a well known loughgiel milkman has changed jobs to taxi man then I'm mistaken.

He's my milkman to and a good lad as well
He's gutted over all this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 06, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: culchie11 on April 05, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
Lads don't believe everything u read in the papers or on social media!

We always need someone to blame and that usually falls at the county boards door.
I am glad they have responded to the article.
I am told the players got, as the statement from county says, what they were entitled to and rightly so.
Liam doesn't mention the numerous false claims that were made, etc, etc.
players claiming for sessions they didn't even attend, taxis, etc but sure whatever u want to believe.

Glad to hear sambo is back involved, I talked about pride and passion in the game of hurling before and u won't beat him for that!

Yeah he never mentioned that him and PJ stayed on in Westmeath after the match to go drinking, got a taxi back to Loughgiel and charged it to the county board. What a pair of pricks.
what a load of scurrilous bs.

Sure there's that much stuff flying about SIE, sleeping dogs and all that.
I know lad but when you see blatant lies posted up willy nilly  somebody has to say something.  Unless a well known loughgiel milkman has changed jobs to taxi man then I'm mistaken.

He's my milkman to and a good lad as well
He's gutted over all this
indeed. As nag1 said we should move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win

Any bookies taking odds on these games before to make predictions?? Would stay clear of the Dunloy game ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:22:05 PM
Don't use the word bookies after this week😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 06, 2016, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win

Any bookies taking odds on these games before to make predictions?? Would stay clear of the Dunloy game ;D

What are you implying there MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 06, 2016, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win

Any bookies taking odds on these games before to make predictions?? Would stay clear of the Dunloy game ;D

What are you implying there MR2?

MR2 I know your not having a crack at dunloy so you fill in the rest
So much for moving on🤔
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 06, 2016, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win

Any bookies taking odds on these games before to make predictions?? Would stay clear of the Dunloy game ;D

What are you implying there MR2?

MR2 I know your not having a crack at dunloy so you fill in the rest
So much for moving on🤔

Moving on?? Ffs lads wind your necks in... No one died, and no one has been fingered for any improper dealings... The pages are a wash with rumours and yet nothing has come out of it...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 06, 2016, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 06, 2016, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2016, 01:19:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 06, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 06, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
How do you all see the first round of league fixtures going in div 1 and 2.
DIVISION 1 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMBallycran---v---O`Donovan Rossa - Ballycran
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMMac Uilin CLG---v---St.Patrick's GAC, Portaferry - Ballycastle
Sun 17 Apr 20163 30 PMCuchullains-Dunloy---v---St John's GAC - Dunloy
Sun 17 Apr 20165 15 PMRuairí Óg---v---Loughgiel Shamrocks - Loughgiel
DIVISION 2 HURLING
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMNaomh Gall---v---Creggan Kickhams - St Galls
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGhaeil Chluanaidh---v---Cathaoir an Rí - Carey
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMGort na Móna CLG---v---Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn - Gorts
Sun 17 Apr 20163 00 PMBallygalget---v---Glenariffe Oisin CLG - Ballygalget

My picks above. I'll be glad to see hurling games be the main topic of conversation on this board.

I'd like to see Dunloy blooding a few of their talented young players over the next 12-24 months, some great potential there.

Loughgiel have about another 2-3 years to make the best of current ageing nucleus and bring in a few youngsters. Critical period for the club.

Would be delighted to get a win v St John's they where impressive against the dall last year and have good hurlers all over the field
Will be a tough one to get a win

Any bookies taking odds on these games before to make predictions?? Would stay clear of the Dunloy game ;D

What are you implying there MR2?

MR2 I know your not having a crack at dunloy so you fill in the rest
So much for moving on🤔

Moving on?? Ffs lads wind your necks in... No one died, and no one has been fingered for any improper dealings... The pages are a wash with rumours and yet nothing has come out of it...

I think everybody knows it's being swept under the carpet and why it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 06, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
I dont know if were allowed to play any of our minors. I was told that county minor players are not allowed to play senior club games. I know our football manager cant play Conor Kinsella in the senior football this weekend as hes on the county minor football team.

I was told this applies to hurling as well.

Anyone know for certain??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
SIE are Antrim vision starting to show that they mean business.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 06, 2016, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 06, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
I dont know if were allowed to play any of our minors. I was told that county minor players are not allowed to play senior club games. I know our football manager cant play Conor Kinsella in the senior football this weekend as hes on the county minor football team.

I was told this applies to hurling as well.

Anyone know for certain??

That was the ruling passed at congress!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 06, 2016, 03:36:52 PM
There's so many stories going around. I suppose it's up to everyone what they want to believe. For me. No smoke without fire,  at the end of the day it's been a month to forget for Antrim hurling. Hopefully should it be sambo or whoever, they can pull a team together and win the Christy ring to salvage some pride at least.  Regroup and go again is the only answer.   I see the betting saga looks to be swepped beneath the carpet, which is a joke,  no1 made thousands out of it.  That doesn't take away from the fact that it happened. These cowards have gotten away lightly here.  Shouldn't ever wear the county jersey again. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 06, 2016, 04:10:39 PM
Crans beat Rossa
Town beat ports
Loughgiel to beat an apathetic Dall?
Dunloy V Naomh Eoin - could be a cracker too close to call!

Have to say I always prefer Division 2!
More competitive meaningful games!
Galls to beat Creggan
Carey to beat clooney Gaels
Gort Cloughmills - 2 close to call?
JC's lads to beat oisin's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2016, 04:29:47 PM
Regroup may be the way we're going with it and good luck to them, but I'd be solidly of the opinion that we should've drawn a line under it for the year and work toward laying down ground rules and standards for next years panel to sign up to.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on April 06, 2016, 05:22:24 PM
been a while, but lots up for discussion, I couldn't be bothered going back too far to read posts!!!!  Some of the rumours I heard about PJ are bordering on ridiculous and surely can't be true.  for the record would like to see Sambo back in for a brief caretaking role and then I would approach mattie Lennon who had applied for the job in the past.  also would get everyone a tracksuit if w**ker is to be believed.  Saffrons abu, will we ever get the chance to say that on a big day in Croke park again!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
SIE are Antrim vision starting to show that they mean business.
In regard to what?  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
In regard to a new management team, a statement denying accusations made about expenses and also by sweeping things under the carpet, which they don't fancy tackling as they are too close to home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 06, 2016, 07:18:17 PM
Crans beat Rossa
Town beat ports.
Cushendall to beat Loughgiel
Dunloy V Naomh Eoin - Naomh Eoin

Div 2:
Galls to beat Creggan
Carey to beat clooney Gaels
Gort Cloughmills - Cloughmills
Ballygalget to beat Glenariff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 06, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
In regard to a new management team, a statement denying accusations made about expenses and also by sweeping things under the carpet, which they don't fancy tackling as they are too close to home.


They have to investigate it, serious failing if they don't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 06, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 06, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
In regard to a new management team, a statement denying accusations made about expenses and also by sweeping things under the carpet, which they don't fancy tackling as they are too close to home.


They have to investigate it, serious failing if they don't.
agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 06, 2016, 07:49:40 PM
If they don't want the accusation of double standards being tossed at them, they need to deal with it fairly lively .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Interesting and detained comments from Co Chairman in the South Belfast News, and presumably in the A'Town News too. Woody in as manager and more or less confirms that PJ was stood down due to unacceptable results. Decisive action.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 06, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
And the rest. Did he forget about that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 06, 2016, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Interesting and detained comments from Co Chairman in the South Belfast News, and presumably in the A'Town News too. Woody in as manager and more or less confirms that PJ was stood down due to unacceptable results. Decisive action.

Did he forget the betting? Or maybe it was handy for the South Belfast News not to ask him. A free for all which caused a game to be abandoned involving his club & a betting issue rumoured to have involved members of his club also & nothing mentioned.

Maybe there is investigations ongoing into both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 06, 2016, 08:55:24 PM
Not many fences for you to sit on there paddyjohn :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 06, 2016, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 06, 2016, 08:55:24 PM
Not many fences for you to sit on there paddyjohn :)

No point..

Wise man once said "Say what you mean & mean what you say"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Interesting and detained comments from Co Chairman in the South Belfast News, and presumably in the A'Town News too. Woody in as manager and more or less confirms that PJ was stood down due to unacceptable results. Decisive action.

Don't think results had anything to do with it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 06, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 06, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Interesting and detained comments from Co Chairman in the South Belfast News, and presumably in the A'Town News too. Woody in as manager and more or less confirms that PJ was stood down due to unacceptable results. Decisive action.

Don't think results had anything to do with it

Or was way down the list at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on April 07, 2016, 07:31:47 AM
Uncharacteristicly quiet times SIE.  The two men you have represented so strongly both letting you down in quick succession  and proving everyone right.  Then again, the disillusionist you are, you'll still try to defend them in some way.  Knew we would have a field day with you!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2016, 08:05:34 AM
Did I read right - that it's Gary O'Kane not Gregory?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on April 07, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 07, 2016, 08:05:34 AM
Did I read right - that it's Gary O'Kane not Gregory?


It's turning into the dream team, great mix of experince
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
County Antrim post reporting
"Dunloy's Gary O'Kane & Dominic 'Woody' McKinley set to join Sambo's team over Antrim Senior Hurling panel ‪#‎GAA‬"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 07, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
Yeah pappy is joining up with them. I heard on monday night that it was him, sambo and woody all going in together to take it.

Thats 3 good antrim men to be putting in charge of a county team that all the players should be listening to and have the utmost respect for. All 3 wore that shirt with pride in their time with the county and were never found wanting.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
And what about Neil Pedan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 07, 2016, 09:29:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 07, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
And what about Neil Pedan?
He's involved too.
Good appointment by the county board on a short term basis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 07, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
Up on the official site now
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/interim-senior-hurling-management
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/sambo-and-woody-return-to-antrim-fold/

Pretty telling article sounds like PJ was pushed as much as he left.

Christy Ring to be played in Abbotstown rather than Ballycastle so people can make the football final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 07, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/sambo-and-woody-return-to-antrim-fold/

Pretty telling article sounds like PJ was pushed as much as he left.

Christy Ring to be played in Abbotstown rather than Ballycastle so people can make the football final

Wonder will they bring many new faces onto the squad and put their own stamp on it? Maybe a complete overhaul? Or just leave as is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 07, 2016, 12:55:23 PM
Think we'd have been better keeping the fixture at home for some small advantage.  Hopefully we'll beat Kildare anyhow but the change suits them more than us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 07, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/sambo-and-woody-return-to-antrim-fold/

Pretty telling article sounds like PJ was pushed as much as he left.

Christy Ring to be played in Abbotstown rather than Ballycastle so people can make the football final

Wonder will they bring many new faces onto the squad and put their own stamp on it? Maybe a complete overhaul? Or just leave as is?

My first question would be who was involved in the gambling shit, then f**k them out on their ear make a statement of intent about commitment. I'd imagine the Cushendall boys will be showing up anyway now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 07, 2016, 02:02:37 PM
What gambling?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 07, 2016, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 07, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/sambo-and-woody-return-to-antrim-fold/

Pretty telling article sounds like PJ was pushed as much as he left.

Christy Ring to be played in Abbotstown rather than Ballycastle so people can make the football final

Wonder will they bring many new faces onto the squad and put their own stamp on it? Maybe a complete overhaul? Or just leave as is?

My first question would be who was involved in the gambling shit, then f**k them out on their ear make a statement of intent about commitment. I'd imagine the Cushendall boys will be showing up anyway now
If theres no evidence then its not a story. I have yet to hear the names of any alleged perpetrators in verbal conversation which kind of suggests that there might not be much to this. In fact if you wanted to be cynical about it, might it be a smokescreen to divert attention from something else.  Anyway I expect the whole thing will evaporate in the next few weeks.
Best of luck to Woody ,Sambo and Pappy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 07, 2016, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 07, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 07, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
http://belfastmediagroup.com/sambo-and-woody-return-to-antrim-fold/

Pretty telling article sounds like PJ was pushed as much as he left.

Christy Ring to be played in Abbotstown rather than Ballycastle so people can make the football final

Wonder will they bring many new faces onto the squad and put their own stamp on it? Maybe a complete overhaul? Or just leave as is?

My first question would be who was involved in the gambling shit, then f**k them out on their ear make a statement of intent about commitment. I'd imagine the Cushendall boys will be showing up anyway now
If theres no evidence then its not a story. I have yet to hear the names of any alleged perpetrators in verbal conversation which kind of suggests that there might not be much to this. In fact if you wanted to be cynical about it, might it be a smokescreen to divert attention from something else.  Anyway I expect the whole thing will evaporate in the next few weeks.
Best of luck to Woody ,Sambo and Pappy.
firstly, does players telling the ex manager of others doing it count as evidence?   If people want to brush it under the carpet that's fine.  But it's an embarrassment if you ask me.   Secondly     Best of luck to sambo woody and the rest of the management team.  Like I've said before.  Hopefully they can salvage some pride.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 02:49:35 PM
Ex manager hasn't been left with much credit so I think that would be ruled out as evidence.
Anyway it won't be pursued now as it gets too close to home for some people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
Well from a consistency point of view I'd expect a statement from the County board in regard to their investigations on the subject. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 07, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
I agree SG, its been hushed up to nicely for my liking.

It needs to be investigated and done correctly. Those involved should be banned from playing if found guilty.

Ive a lot of respect for the new management as the 4 of them are all good hurling men but how can you follow a team that had people who would willing bet against themselves to lose?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 07, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 07, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
I agree SG, its been hushed up to nicely for my liking.

It needs to be investigated and done correctly. Those involved should be banned from playing if found guilty.

Ive a lot of respect for the new management as the 4 of them are all good hurling men but how can you follow a team that had people who would willing bet against themselves to lose?

If no hard evidence (the bookies docket or account statement) then whats to be done apart from the panel dealing with it internally and ostracizing said individuals from the group. If this did indeed happen I hope they are strong enough to do this.
If you are waiting for a public flogging though don't hold your breath. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 07, 2016, 04:32:06 PM
Why dance around it? who are they trying to protect?

I spoke to a few who seen it and confirmed all that happened. I trust them in what they say.

Theres a few people who are hoping it will all go away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 07, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 07, 2016, 04:32:06 PM
Why dance around it? who are they trying to protect?

I spoke to a few who seen it and confirmed all that happened. I trust them in what they say.

Theres a few people who are hoping it will all go away.

There's no hard evidence, that's why no-one is standing up stating it was "so and so".  What else can the CB do apart from as I said earlier that they ensure they are pushed out of the group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 07, 2016, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 07, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
There's no hard evidence, that's why no-one is standing up stating it was "so and so".  What else can the CB do apart from as I said earlier that they ensure they are pushed out of the group.

You could go all out looking for the evidence rather than waiting on it coming to you (.....not saying that hasn't happened already ). 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 07, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
As I wrote a few pages back, nobody is looking a public flogging. Personally all I want is the 3/4 lads who were involved kicked off the county panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 08, 2016, 09:34:45 AM
I see woody interviewed in the IN today that Neil will be committing to the panel until he leaves. Thats some good news at least.
Hopefully with the time we have before the Kildare game they can get the lads going and up for this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 08, 2016, 11:28:04 AM
+1 to cfclg's comment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 08, 2016, 11:41:23 AM
'suit' possibly wasn't the best choice of words I'd say... but some have stated that there maybe wasn't that much truth in the rumors hence why the county board have done nothing so basically ....'let it go guys' is what we should do. I want a county board that have the good of the game at the core of their decision making. I need more convincing considering the strength of those rumors and would not be happy if totally unethical practices like this were swept under the carpet. If it was someone from my club alleged to have been involved, I'd think no different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?

Seems to suit a few who want it swept under the carpet as to not rock the boat. I've spoke to players who saw the betting slips, who over heard the conversations of those involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 08, 2016, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

+1

If our CB are serious about change and all this fan fare of what they will deliver then this is a test of them.

They were quick off the mark to counter LW's comments. I dont see them as quick to deal with these betting stories other than to flippantly deny them even tho people who were there said it was true.

For transparency and to rebuild all the lost confidence within the county it needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?

Seems to suit a few who want it swept under the carpet as to not rock the boat. I've spoke to players who saw the betting slips, who over heard the conversations of those involved.

There it is then, the evidence. Get it put in writing to the County Exec and there's no more dodging from it no matter what club/clubs they are from. The whole debacle is wrapped up, perpetrators given the road, we all move on. That would suit me the very best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?

Seems to suit a few who want it swept under the carpet as to not rock the boat. I've spoke to players who saw the betting slips, who over heard the conversations of those involved.

There it is then, the evidence. Get it put in writing to the County Exec and there's no more dodging from it no matter what club/clubs they are from. The whole debacle is wrapped up, perpetrators given the road, we all move on. That would suit me the very best.

Why should I do the countys job and give them names?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2016, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?

Seems to suit a few who want it swept under the carpet as to not rock the boat. I've spoke to players who saw the betting slips, who over heard the conversations of those involved.

There it is then, the evidence. Get it put in writing to the County Exec and there's no more dodging from it no matter what club/clubs they are from. The whole debacle is wrapped up, perpetrators given the road, we all move on. That would suit me the very best.

If the county board want supporters to get behind the team and spend money attending games and buying merchandise then they have to deal with this issue.  There is no way I'll be taking my family to a game until it is resolved.  I've spent a good bit of money going to Antrim games in the past 5 years but won't be spending any more if I know that certain players were backing against the team they were playing in.

I don't care for public naming & shaming but I know who the individuals involved were any I wouldn't want them involved at all going forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Imm not trying to defend the county board here and agree that there should be more disclosure on how it was handled but what if they can't get any shred of concrete evidence even they know it happened
Innocent until proven guilty and all that s..t
What way should it be handled then take them up to castlereagh and beat them with telephone directories until they sign
If there is hard evidence and its hushed up than that's a disgrace for sure
Do we know how much they have to go on

I see MC manus has made himself available v Kildare so things looking up a bit for new management
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Hard evidence being what? Bet slips and account statements?

Bet slips will have been cashed and account statements impossible to obtain.

These boys were openly discussing the issue hence how word has spread far & wide.  All the players in the camp know who was involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 12:55:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Imm not trying to defend the county board here and agree that there should be more disclosure on how it was handled but what if they can't get any shred of concrete evidence even they know it happened
Innocent until proven guilty and all that s..t
What way should it be handled then take them up to castlereagh and beat them with telephone directories until they sign
If there is hard evidence and its hushed up than that's a disgrace for sure
Do we know how much they have to go on

I see MC manus has made himself available v Kildare so things looking up a bit for new management

All the county board needs to do is acknowledge that this happened, its being investigated and those who are guilty will be dealt with in due course. They are running scared on this one. Time to face up, acknowledge it and show that we won't just accept things like this happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 08, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Hard evidence being what? Bet slips and account statements?

Bet slips will have been cashed and account statements impossible to obtain.

These boys were openly discussing the issue hence how word has spread far & wide.  All the players in the camp know who was involved.

So where do they go from there have an internal tribunal where on player is pointing to another player and saying it was him
Then these boys will be hurling against each other and club level
It's a hard thing to sort out
What is the correct procedure for this that all parties can be satisfied
I would like their names disclosed to but it opens another new chapter of bad feeling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 12:55:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Imm not trying to defend the county board here and agree that there should be more disclosure on how it was handled but what if they can't get any shred of concrete evidence even they know it happened
Innocent until proven guilty and all that s..t
What way should it be handled then take them up to castlereagh and beat them with telephone directories until they sign
If there is hard evidence and its hushed up than that's a disgrace for sure
Do we know how much they have to go on

I see MC manus has made himself available v Kildare so things looking up a bit for new management

All the county board needs to do is acknowledge that this happened, its being investigated and those who are guilty will be dealt with in due course. They are running scared on this one. Time to face up, acknowledge it and show that we won't just accept things like this happening.

Fair point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

I agree 100% with you. It suits some posters on this board to sweep it under the carpet also for some reason. Maybe it will disappear if people stop writing about it!

Who does it suit?

Seems to suit a few who want it swept under the carpet as to not rock the boat. I've spoke to players who saw the betting slips, who over heard the conversations of those involved.

There it is then, the evidence. Get it put in writing to the County Exec and there's no more dodging from it no matter what club/clubs they are from. The whole debacle is wrapped up, perpetrators given the road, we all move on. That would suit me the very best.

Why should I do the countys job and give them names?

I didn't say you, I meant the players who directly have the evidence. Hearsay isn't worth sh!te in a case like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on April 08, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

Agree 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 08, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 08, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

Agree 100%

Yeah I think the least that could be expected is a statement to say that they acknowledge that there is an issue to be addressed.
Any investigation could then be done in house and moves made in that way.

Just to blatantly ignore and hope that the management appointments gloss over it is a bit old school.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 08, 2016, 02:57:06 PM
i would say that new management will not tolerate any of the nonsense thats occurred. Can you imagine fuking about with woody or pappy and them not saying something or telling you to GTF? not a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 04:06:47 PM
To me it's straightforward. If there's no evidence to deal with it with the GAA rules then the most the exec can do is instruct the new management to not have them on the county panel.
Good to see Neil back, maybe that was always his plan or was it down to the change in management?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 08, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 08, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: AQMP on April 08, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: cfclg on April 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 07, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2016, 02:52:16 PM
Like I said yesterday.  I suppose there's that many stories going around. It's about who chooses to believe what.  I no the gambling happened and it's not about how much money was made.  It's the principle of the thing.  Do you want players who have backed themselves to loose to be representing our county.  This has gone away to easy for me.  Sorry.

I agree with you totally, there's no place for it. But I honestly can't see it happening, it will be a pleasant surprise if it does.
The new exec have taken a strong stance on everything else, this could be the one item that hurts them.

Some people on here this week were saying its over now, lets move on. I for one will not leave this alone. Its the very principle of the thing that annoys the sh*te out of me. I don't care if they made £50K or £5 betting against us. THESE COUNTY HURLERS BET AGAINST THEMSELVES. The game may have been a dead rubber for Antrim but this clearly shows a serious lack of respect towards our county and the game in general when people can do this.

I don't care about a public flogging but can the county exec at least release a statement saying they know it happened and that the players have/are being dealt with. That would send a clear message out that the times of f**king about and sweeping stuff under the carpet is over.

Agree 100%

Yeah I think the least that could be expected is a statement to say that they acknowledge that there is an issue to be addressed.
Any investigation could then be done in house and moves made in that way.

Just to blatantly ignore and hope that the management appointments gloss over it is a bit old school.

Yeah they could do that alright then in a months time they could release a statement saying we couldn't find any firm evidence so no case to answer. More bad press continued èrosion of this county's reputation. More bad blood.
I honestly believe this will be sorted out within the group and these individuals will be pushed out to scurry off with their heads hanging never to return to the county panel. . I feel sorry for their families and their clubs. If there was just a photo, video or text msg then that's different but there isn't so lets leave the panel and county exec to deal with it out of the media glare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 08, 2016, 05:28:23 PM
I agree Last Man.
Now we've all realised there will never be a legal avenue.
Nobody wants these lads to get a free pass - but public hangings are never going to happen.
Nor do they serve the reputation of our county at this time.
If the lads are thrown off the squad - that's the start.
And if we want to put an end to it - they'll never pull the jersey on again.
As they walk into GAA grounds around Antrim - the stigma that everyone knows is more effective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

It's the great Antrim whodunnit mystery

I think most of it is nosiness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2016, 09:02:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 08, 2016, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

It's the great Antrim whodunnit mystery

I think most of it is nosiness

Nosiness?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence

Hasn't stopped names being put up before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence

Hasn't stopped names being put up before

Feel free
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence

Hasn't stopped names being put up before

Feel free

I don't know..... That's why I was asking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on April 08, 2016, 11:03:09 PM
I wonder how many previous games they bet on, surely this isn't a first and would have likely occurred again in the future had they not been caught out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 09, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence

Hasn't stopped names being put up before

Feel free

I don't know..... That's why I was asking
I've been told 4 names but there's no way I'm putting them up on this board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 09, 2016, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 09, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on April 08, 2016, 09:08:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
So still no names?? This is bizzare

I don't think this forum is the place to be putting names up, acusing anyone, especially with what appears to be a lack of evidence

Hasn't stopped names being put up before

Feel free

I don't know..... That's why I was asking
I've been told 4 names but there's no way I'm putting them up on this board.

Ok ,we'll start a game of guess who. Do they wear glasses? Have they got hair? Sorry, should have started with is it a man or woman?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 09, 2016, 06:51:51 PM
Laois beat Westmeath in playoff. 2A for Westmeath again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2016, 12:09:02 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Welcome to the board

Kerry seem to be on a upward trajectory at present
Couple this with antrims regression I can't see the logic
Plenty of good hurling men in closer proximity than PJ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 12, 2016, 09:33:07 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2016, 12:09:02 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Welcome to the board

Kerry seem to be on a upward trajectory at present
Couple this with antrims regression I can't see the logic
Plenty of good hurling men in closer proximity than PJ

I'd have to agree we're a bit out of the way to make it worth while when you'd have a heap of talent on your doorstep .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Best of luck to Woody Sambo and Gary. Three men who owe Antrim nothing and who could hurl with the best in the country. These men will stop the slide and get Antrin hurling on an upward curve again. Every Antrim gael should get right behind them from the start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2016, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Best of luck to Woody Sambo and Gary. Three men who owe Antrim nothing and who could hurl with the best in the country. These men will stop the slide and get Antrin hurling on an upward curve again. Every Antrim gael should get right behind them from the start.

And also Neal Peden from St Johns.

Anybody heard anything about the new set up? Any lads off the panel? Any new ones brought in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 12, 2016, 12:22:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 12, 2016, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Best of luck to Woody Sambo and Gary. Three men who owe Antrim nothing and who could hurl with the best in the country. These men will stop the slide and get Antrin hurling on an upward curve again. Every Antrim gael should get right behind them from the start.

And also Neal Peden from St Johns.

Anybody heard anything about the new set up? Any lads off the panel? Any new ones brought in?

MC manus won't be going back as reported earlier in the week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 12, 2016, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 12, 2016, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Best of luck to Woody Sambo and Gary. Three men who owe Antrim nothing and who could hurl with the best in the country. These men will stop the slide and get Antrin hurling on an upward curve again. Every Antrim gael should get right behind them from the start.

And also Neal Peden from St Johns.

Anybody heard anything about the new set up? Any lads off the panel? Any new ones brought in?

Strange after reading the CAP about the appointments and they never mention Neal Peden at all, and talk about "the trio" etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 12, 2016, 02:31:19 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 12, 2016, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 12, 2016, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: bannside on April 12, 2016, 10:10:44 AM
Best of luck to Woody Sambo and Gary. Three men who owe Antrim nothing and who could hurl with the best in the country. These men will stop the slide and get Antrin hurling on an upward curve again. Every Antrim gael should get right behind them from the start.

And also Neal Peden from St Johns.

Anybody heard anything about the new set up? Any lads off the panel? Any new ones brought in?

Strange after reading the CAP about the appointments and they never mention Neal Peden at all, and talk about "the trio" etc.

Would you expect anything else from the CAP?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 12, 2016, 03:48:49 PM
Its an anti-city thing. us north antrim ones push our agenda through the CAP lol

Silly mistake by the CAP, they should of had his name in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 12, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
Good to see Neil in there too. Antrim senior hurling badly needs a strong city presence and this needs to be reflected in the management set up. To be fair as far as I can see over the years this hasnt been an issue.

Unlike the football set up where amazingly I do not recall a senior manager ever from the South west, and rarely even at under 21 or minor level either. Something that will need to change very soon!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Unlaoised on April 12, 2016, 04:37:17 PM
Hope these appointments get Antrim back on track!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Some milage cheque there! Or maybe you provide a taxi.
Sure send us a message or 2 about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 13, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Some milage cheque there! Or maybe you provide a taxi.
Sure send us a message or 2 about it.
more nonsense.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on April 13, 2016, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 13, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Some milage cheque there! Or maybe you provide a taxi.
Sure send us a message or 2 about it.

more nonsense.  ::)

Bound to be a milkman that does a run from Kerry to Loughgiel..................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 13, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 13, 2016, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 13, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Some milage cheque there! Or maybe you provide a taxi.
Sure send us a message or 2 about it.

more nonsense.  ::)

Bound to be a milkman that does a run from Kerry to Loughgiel..................

Wouldn't bet on it.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2016, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 13, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 13, 2016, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 13, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 13, 2016, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: PastHurler on April 11, 2016, 11:43:55 PM
Hi lads, I am new to this forum but just wanted to know about strong rumours coming out of the Ballyduff Senior hurling club in North Kerry that PJ o Mullain is on the verge of joining their set up as a coach this summer? Has anyone heard anything about this?
The logistics seem quite tough, but I think Jerry Wallis travelled up
From Cork before to manage the Antrim hurlers.

Some milage cheque there! Or maybe you provide a taxi.
Sure send us a message or 2 about it.

more nonsense.  ::)

Bound to be a milkman that does a run from Kerry to Loughgiel..................

Wouldn't bet on it.....

why not? it seems to be the thing to do  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 13, 2016, 11:35:44 AM
Lets talk about hurling instead lol

seems like a lot of pitches are bad shape at the moment. I can see a few games not going ahead this weekend if the rain doesnt hold up. I know ours has taken a real hammering and our main pitch still isnt opened up.

I dont rem this many games at all levels being called off before at this stage of a season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 13, 2016, 02:15:30 PM
Think clubs with the support of the Ulster Council should be looking petition our local government/councils to set up some sort initiative to provide funding to clubs to assist with improving/maintaining pitch drainage 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 13, 2016, 02:38:04 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 13, 2016, 02:15:30 PM
Think clubs with the support of the Ulster Council should be looking petition our local government/councils to set up some sort initiative to provide funding to clubs to assist with improving/maintaining pitch drainage

+1

This is the type of thing that our politicians should be all over, how many (for example) soccer clubs for instance own their own pitches?

Therefore as rates payers we are paying for the maintenance of the pitches that they play on, IMO the same level (or an agreed level) of maintenance should be afforded to GAA clubs who chosen to invest in their own communities by purchasing land and developing it for sporting use.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 13, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
Hardly likely to happen when the DUP voted to block rate relief for sports clubs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 13, 2016, 03:43:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 13, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
Hardly likely to happen when the DUP voted to block rate relief for sports clubs!!

Yet OO halls don't have to pay any!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 14, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
Was there ever confirmation that the CR match would be in Abbotstown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 14, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
Was there ever confirmation that the CR match would be in Abbotstown?
The last I heard it was to be played in Parnell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on April 15, 2016, 06:19:36 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/hurling/christy-ring/fixtures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 15, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 15, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 14, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
Was there ever confirmation that the CR match would be in Abbotstown?
The last I heard it was to be played in Parnell.

Sound, think it was one of the papers had me thinking it's was abbotstown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 15, 2016, 10:47:34 PM
Any Shams or Ruaris tell me if the match is on this Sunday? Heard today it could be called off..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Justanopinion on April 16, 2016, 11:30:01 AM
Just echoing what Paddy John has asked - any word of Cushendall vs Loughgiel match is on tomorrow? Hearing the senior match is moved till Monday evening and just reserves tomorrow. ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 16, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2016, 10:47:34 PM
Any Shams or Ruaris tell me if the match is on this Sunday? Heard today it could be called off..
Monday evening I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 16, 2016, 11:45:12 AM
Ruairi Og FB page

Reserve match 2pm Sunday
Senior 6.45 Monday night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Justanopinion on April 16, 2016, 12:34:06 PM
Cheers guys
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 16, 2016, 03:38:52 PM
I'm going to head to the Dunloy/johnnies game. It should be a tight game. Looking forward to it 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 16, 2016, 07:50:52 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on April 16, 2016, 03:38:52 PM
I'm going to head to the Dunloy/johnnies game. It should be a tight game. Looking forward to it

Thurles for me ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 17, 2016, 01:10:30 PM
Cushendall v loughgiel match rearranged for monday is now off as county play b castle in a friendly on Tuesday. Do the powers that be not communicate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 17, 2016, 05:51:51 PM
Dunloy 2.13 st johns 3.07
Leaked three goals very soft
Down 7 points with 8 minutes to
Cairan Elliot hit two goals

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Post by: CitySlicker11 on April 17, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
Sounds like a good come back victory for Dunloy. Will do great for their morale early on in the season. With a lot of youngsters to blood over the next few years they could be a force again soon. St John's will have fancied themselves strongly and will be disappointed. Any other games played today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 17, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
Ballycastle 1-17  1-14 Portaferry. We were ahead from start to finish, but got tight enough in the last ten minutes. That's a good result for Rossa away in Ballycran. Never easy getting a win away in County Down. Good to get the leagues up and running.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 17, 2016, 01:10:30 PM
Cushendall v loughgiel match rearranged for monday is now off as county play b castle in a friendly on Tuesday. Do the powers that be not communicate?

Is this for real?
Our top two club teams don't play a competitive game - so our county team can play a challenge game against a different club team?
Please tell me this is wrong!
If true I'm ranking this alongside all the other scandals of recent weeks!

Thurles yesterday was a bit strange as both games were effectively over before the final whistle - even given that the physicality and speed is always a wake up call to the different levels that exist. And it wasn't even championship yet! Waterford play that system so well although a lack of goals (penalties) still worries me for the summer.
I don't think anyone in Thurles believed the Clare win would count for much come championship - they'll have to do it all again.

If we're at the business of cancelling top club games in preference for a county challenge game then such matches will always be out of our reach. Regardless of the season we've had - to cancel club games for Christy ring is inhibiting our hurling and merely prolonging the quagmire we are in. I'm struggling to get my head round this if it's true!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 18, 2016, 09:02:57 AM
Thought we got out of jail on sunday against st johns. 3 terrible goals we conceeded in the first half to go in 0-06 to 3-04 down at half time.

Fair play to the lads as they dug deep and scored 2-07 to st john's 0-03 in the second half. Young ciaran elliott had only 2 chances in the entire game for a score and he buried 2 cracking goals, the last of which was at the death to put us up by 2 points.

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Post by: MoChara on April 18, 2016, 11:08:17 AM
Why did they go ahead with the reserve game for Cushendall and Loughgiel and move the Senior game surely it'd make some sense the other way about?
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Post by: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 11:54:34 AM
Was it not called off for a stag do?
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Post by: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 11:57:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 11:54:34 AM
Was it not called off for a stag do?

Is that reason enough now?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 12:20:56 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 11:57:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 11:54:34 AM
Was it not called off for a stag do?

Is that reason enough now?

Only going by what I was told by a man from Loughuile last week.
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Post by: theskull1 on April 18, 2016, 12:24:20 PM
Not setting good standards there.
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Post by: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.

A lot of work going in and Sarsfields at underage level - bigger numbers across age groups than I have seen them with.
Rossa were favourites for the hurling and were strong as expected - have seen them before. Good also to see some hurling from south belfast ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.

A lot of work going in and Sarsfields at underage level - bigger numbers across age groups than I have seen them with.
Rossa were favourites for the hurling and were strong as expected - have seen them before. Good also to see some hurling from south belfast ;)

Plenty of hurling in South Belfast, on the right side of the Lagan thankfully..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.

A lot of work going in and Sarsfields at underage level - bigger numbers across age groups than I have seen them with.
Rossa were favourites for the hurling and were strong as expected - have seen them before. Good also to see some hurling from south belfast ;)

Plenty of hurling in South Belfast, on the right side of the Lagan thankfully..

Very good JC!
The increased interest in Bredagh & Carryduff players maybe says something about the Ards teams strength?
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Post by: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Facilities are so important for attracting children. Sarsfields have done well in that regard.  It's difficult for the city teams though for obvious reasons.
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Post by: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Facilities are so important for attracting children. Sarsfields have done well in that regard.  It's difficult for the city teams though for obvious reasons.

Getting more difficult for teams in NA to outside the big 4 of C'Dall, Dunloy, Shamrocks & B'Castle.

Did Cloughmills & Glenravel not have to get together a few years back to field at underage? Same as C'Dun & Carey & Armoy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Facilities are so important for attracting children. Sarsfields have done well in that regard.  It's difficult for the city teams though for obvious reasons.

Getting more difficult for teams in NA to outside the big 4 of C'Dall, Dunloy, Shamrocks & B'Castle.

Did Cloughmills & Glenravel not have to get together a few years back to field at underage? Same as C'Dun & Carey & Armoy?

PJ....think we've our wires crossed....I was chatting about facilities and how they're important in attracting new players.  Correct about Naomh Padraig  (Armoy, Carey & Cushendun)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 18, 2016, 03:06:56 PM
cmills combined up a few years ago to form St. Brendans. They won a north antrim feile but the set up fell to the wayside.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.

A lot of work going in and Sarsfields at underage level - bigger numbers across age groups than I have seen them with.
Rossa were favourites for the hurling and were strong as expected - have seen them before. Good also to see some hurling from south belfast ;)

Plenty of hurling in South Belfast, on the right side of the Lagan thankfully..

Very good JC!
The increased interest in Bredagh & Carryduff players maybe says something about the Ards teams strength?

Not sure your point, but IMO the development of Bredagh and Carryduff is a breath of fresh air in Down hurling, especially at underage where its no longer a three way dogfight and certainly with both taking regular underage titles we've had to rethink our structures and how we do things and I know Ballycran are following suit after a few years where they did very little at underage.
Back in the day we'd think we're great fella's and pick up a county underage championship if we could beat our neighbours. If they were poor then all we had to be was just that bit better. With the greater competition from South Belfast and the amalgamations that spring up once in a while in the rest of Down we're having to raise our game and that's a good thing.

Could you possibly be implying that both entered the Down hurling leagues due to the ease at which they could pick up underage titles?
Considering both have been affiliated to Down in footballing terms for donkeys years, I'd think that was unfair and inaccurate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 18, 2016, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 18, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
Facilities are so important for attracting children. Sarsfields have done well in that regard.  It's difficult for the city teams though for obvious reasons.

Getting more difficult for teams in NA to outside the big 4 of C'Dall, Dunloy, Shamrocks & B'Castle.

Did Cloughmills & Glenravel not have to get together a few years back to field at underage? Same as C'Dun & Carey & Armoy?

Sorry bud, read your post wrong..

PJ....think we've our wires crossed....I was chatting about facilities and how they're important in attracting new players.  Correct about Naomh Padraig  (Armoy, Carey & Cushendun)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 02:06:57 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 18, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on April 18, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
maybe taking this slightly off centre - anyone see any of the Feile games at the weekend? Sars v Stinsons (F), Rossa V Eire Og/ Brides (h)  I watched the sars game (football game) - some serious big units on that team.

A lot of work going in and Sarsfields at underage level - bigger numbers across age groups than I have seen them with.
Rossa were favourites for the hurling and were strong as expected - have seen them before. Good also to see some hurling from south belfast ;)

Plenty of hurling in South Belfast, on the right side of the Lagan thankfully..

Very good JC!
The increased interest in Bredagh & Carryduff players maybe says something about the Ards teams strength?

Not sure your point, but IMO the development of Bredagh and Carryduff is a breath of fresh air in Down hurling, especially at underage where its no longer a three way dogfight and certainly with both taking regular underage titles we've had to rethink our structures and how we do things and I know Ballycran are following suit after a few years where they did very little at underage.
Back in the day we'd think we're great fella's and pick up a county underage championship if we could beat our neighbours. If they were poor then all we had to be was just that bit better. With the greater competition from South Belfast and the amalgamations that spring up once in a while in the rest of Down we're having to raise our game and that's a good thing.

Your bit above was exactly my point! I was just interested was that an internal Down/Ards opinion also.

Could you possibly be implying that both entered the Down hurling leagues due to the ease at which they could pick up underage titles?
Considering both have been affiliated to Down in footballing terms for donkeys years, I'd think that was unfair and inaccurate.

No - not my point at all! As far as I know a club can play in any league - but must enter its own county championship - therefore them entering Antrim C'ship is never an option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 18, 2016, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 17, 2016, 01:10:30 PM
Cushendall v loughgiel match rearranged for monday is now off as county play b castle in a friendly on Tuesday. Do the powers that be not communicate?

Is this for real?
Our top two club teams don't play a competitive game - so our county team can play a challenge game against a different club team?
Please tell me this is wrong!
If true I'm ranking this alongside all the other scandals of recent weeks!

Thurles yesterday was a bit strange as both games were effectively over before the final whistle - even given that the physicality and speed is always a wake up call to the different levels that exist. And it wasn't even championship yet! Waterford play that system so well although a lack of goals (penalties) still worries me for the summer.
I don't think anyone in Thurles believed the Clare win would count for much come championship - they'll have to do it all again.

If we're at the business of cancelling top club games in preference for a county challenge game then such matches will always be out of our reach. Regardless of the season we've had - to cancel club games for Christy ring is inhibiting our hurling and merely prolonging the quagmire we are in. I'm struggling to get my head round this if it's true!
It's true, although in saying that cdall don't seem to care to play Loughgiel just yet so it seemed to suit and with the manager being who he is, well you know!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 19, 2016, 07:43:26 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 18, 2016, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 18, 2016, 08:15:26 AM
Quote from: Brocky on April 17, 2016, 01:10:30 PM
Cushendall v loughgiel match rearranged for monday is now off as county play b castle in a friendly on Tuesday. Do the powers that be not communicate?

Is this for real?
Our top two club teams don't play a competitive game - so our county team can play a challenge game against a different club team?
Please tell me this is wrong!
If true I'm ranking this alongside all the other scandals of recent weeks!

Thurles yesterday was a bit strange as both games were effectively over before the final whistle - even given that the physicality and speed is always a wake up call to the different levels that exist. And it wasn't even championship yet! Waterford play that system so well although a lack of goals (penalties) still worries me for the summer.
I don't think anyone in Thurles believed the Clare win would count for much come championship - they'll have to do it all again.

If we're at the business of cancelling top club games in preference for a county challenge game then such matches will always be out of our reach. Regardless of the season we've had - to cancel club games for Christy ring is inhibiting our hurling and merely prolonging the quagmire we are in. I'm struggling to get my head round this if it's true!
It's true, although in saying that cdall don't seem to care to play Loughgiel just yet so it seemed to suit and with the manager being who he is, well you know!!
Woody???
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Post by: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Any feedback from the county game last night?
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Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 08:57:25 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Any feedback from the county game last night?

Just saw online last night that Ballycastle were congratulating their lads on how well they played in the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 20, 2016, 09:26:35 AM
Antrim won 1-21 to 1-19 was up on the FB page
https://www.facebook.com/AontroimGAA/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 20, 2016, 09:32:40 AM
I'm guessing the Ballycastle County boys played for the town?
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Post by: Bonamargy on April 20, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
Have Cushendall appointed a new manager yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 20, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
Have Cushendall appointed a new manager yet?

Heard at the weekend that Smokey is back in.
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Post by: Two Hands FFS on April 20, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 20, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
Have Cushendall appointed a new manager yet?

Heard at the weekend that Smokey is back in.
You heard wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on April 20, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 20, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on April 20, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
Have Cushendall appointed a new manager yet?

Heard at the weekend that Smokey is back in.
You heard wrong

I remember him saying after the AI final that he was away sp I found it strange his name was mentioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Maybe it is just me, but why would be promoting that our County hurlers were playing against a club team? No disrespect to Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 20, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Maybe it is just me, but why would be promoting that our County hurlers were playing against a club team? No disrespect to Ballycastle.

I'd presume it was just the new management wanting a look at the players before this Saturdays Christy Ring run out!!
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Post by: Hand up on April 20, 2016, 02:46:05 PM
Agree NAG
What's the point other than perhaps a chance to set up their team, which they couldn't do as McAuley and Clarkey where needed for the Town!!
Latest Irish story from our CCC that he Cushendall were fined £300 and deducted a point for a failure to field!! Now the facts where the match was moved to Monday with the agreement of Loughguile and the CCC and then the County called it off for last nights farce and we get fined!! Unreal why would we bother sending players if that's the way we get treated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 20, 2016, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Maybe it is just me, but why would be promoting that our County hurlers were playing against a club team? No disrespect to Ballycastle.

I think our new PRO needs to learn that less can sometimes be more with social media.  I had to unfollow the County Twitter feed as they post 50-100 times a day 7 days a week. Most of it is retweeting information from every club in the County even if it is just to say that U14 club camogie training is called off. I'm all for supporting the County but this information doesn't need to be shared to everybody. No one outside of St Johns really needs to see a tweet about their U14 camogie team do they?

I'd rather see the social media outlets focused on our County teams across all codes and if possible the odd update on Casement / Dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 20, 2016, 02:36:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Maybe it is just me, but why would be promoting that our County hurlers were playing against a club team? No disrespect to Ballycastle.

I'd presume it was just the new management wanting a look at the players before this Saturdays Christy Ring run out!!

I took that part as read JC - the need to be posting about it online I fail to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffyman on April 20, 2016, 03:13:51 PM
completely agree NAG no need for it all hes doing very well but the constant updates can be very annoying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 20, 2016, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: saffyman on April 20, 2016, 03:13:51 PM
completely agree NAG no need for it all hes doing very well but the constant updates can be very annoying

While I find the retweets a bit annoying I can put up with those and sometimes nice to see what other clubs are doing etc

Its this one issue I have a bit of a problem with, not trying too be overly critical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 21, 2016, 08:55:50 AM
was past dunsilly there and the building seems to be finished building wise and the contractors working on the inside elements of the structure.

Its a lot smaller than what was submitted to planning so i assume they have went for a cost cutting exercise and made the development smaller. The pitches have now all had the fencing added and the posts are all in place. Its getting close to being usable but its not a brilliant set up. theres no facilities for toilets near the pitches or somewhere to watch a match there in shelter.

If im honest its bog standard and nothing more but it will do the job to get us started. What im scared of is thats all it will ever be, bog standard. Its no Owenbeg i can assure you of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 21, 2016, 09:36:22 AM
 :-[  Its the aspirations (or lack of) that it places in the minds of the players .

Apathy raises its head in many ways. Shame thats all that we can afford to do currently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffyman on April 21, 2016, 10:30:10 AM
hope dunsilly doesn't end up like woodlands which is a hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 21, 2016, 08:55:50 AM
was past dunsilly there and the building seems to be finished building wise and the contractors working on the inside elements of the structure.

Its a lot smaller than what was submitted to planning so i assume they have went for a cost cutting exercise and made the development smaller. The pitches have now all had the fencing added and the posts are all in place. Its getting close to being usable but its not a brilliant set up. theres no facilities for toilets near the pitches or somewhere to watch a match there in shelter.

If im honest its bog standard and nothing more but it will do the job to get us started. What im scared of is thats all it will ever be, bog standard. Its no Owenbeg i can assure you of that.

I suppose we should be grateful for ANY progress?
Maybe thinking of it along the lines of a base for county squads to train on - nothing else - not hosting club games like Owenbeg for example.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2016, 10:46:18 AM
It took a long time before Owenbeg hosted club games though...

I would have thought maybe a dozen years or so??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 21, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2016, 10:46:18 AM
It took a long time before Owenbeg hosted club games though...

I would have thought maybe a dozen years or so??

+1

If you recall Owenbeg in the early days it was not an overly nice place to be.

It has come on and has been developed into a quality facility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 21, 2016, 11:15:07 AM
It is good to see that its being progressed along and its starting to take shape that it can be used.

I know its harsh comparing it to Owenbeg as its a brilliant facility but the Derry county board have had their house in order a lot longer than we have. I would love to see a top class facility for our kids and adult teams to use but until that time comes then we will just have to work with what we have.

Theres plenty of spare ground around the pitches to expand facilities so theres room to improve the place.

It is a starting point and thats positive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 21, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 21, 2016, 11:15:07 AM
It is good to see that its being progressed along and its starting to take shape that it can be used.

I know its harsh comparing it to Owenbeg as its a brilliant facility but the Derry county board have had their house in order a lot longer than we have. I would love to see a top class facility for our kids and adult teams to use but until that time comes then we will just have to work with what we have.

Theres plenty of spare ground around the pitches to expand facilities so theres room to improve the place.

It is a starting point and thats positive.

If the current executive left with dunsilly fully operational and fit for purpose - then that'd certainly be something to be commended. Let's hope we get that progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on April 21, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: saffyman on April 21, 2016, 10:30:10 AM
hope dunsilly doesn't end up like woodlands which is a hole

in what way is it a hole? New changing pavilion, great parking facilities and a full size 3G floodlit pitch... aye def a hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 21, 2016, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 21, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Quote from: saffyman on April 21, 2016, 10:30:10 AM
hope dunsilly doesn't end up like woodlands which is a hole

in what way is it a hole? New changing pavilion, great parking facilities and a full size 3G floodlit pitch... aye def a hole

Clearly he hasn't been in the last few years, but it fairness it was a hole before the work was done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 21, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
What he should have said was

hope dunsilly doesn't take as long as woodlands to end up 'not a hole'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 21, 2016, 03:49:18 PM
As long as Dunsilly is good enough to accommodate our development squad activity and preparation of county teams etc it will be a very welcome development. From what I see it will adequately tick those boxes. Plenty of scope for further development in second or third phase if the money can be raised.

When Dunsilly is finally opened it is only fit and proper that a healthy dose of credit is extended to previous Coiste Bainisti for the roles they played in delivering this. It was a road full of unexpected twists and turns, but they stuck with it and to finally get the facility opened will be a great achievement.

The new board can take the project on a bit further in the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on April 22, 2016, 04:08:24 PM
Owenbeg is a first rate facility but it must be remembered that Derry County Board bought the land for that in 1996/97 IIRC and it was finished in 2014.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 22, 2016, 04:45:11 PM
Panel to play Kildare..

1 Chris O'Connell Loughgiel
2 Simon McCrory St Johns
3 Tony McCloskey Loughgiel
4 Ryan Mc Cambridge Ruairi Og
5 Odhran McFadden Loughgiel
6 Neal Mc Auley Ballycastle
7 Conor McKinley Dunloy
8 Ciaran Johnson Naomh Eoin
9 Eoghan Campbell Ruairi Og
10 Niall McKenna Sarsfields
11 Conor Carson Ruairi Og
12 John Dillon Fanaithe A Gleanna
13 Conor Johnston St Johns
14 Sean McAfee Ruairi Og
15 Ciaran Clarke Ballycastle
16 Gabriel Mc Taggart Dunloy
17 James Connolly Rossa
18 Paddy Burke Padraig Ruairi Og
19 Fergus Donnelly Ballycastle
20 Barry McFall St Johns
21 Michal Dudley St Johns
22 Eddie McCloskey Loughgiel
23 Darren Hamill Shane O Neills
24 Bernard Graham Clooney Gaels
25 Colm Duffin Tir Na nOg

All the best lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2016, 06:41:29 PM
Personally would rather they'd pulled out of the CR but I hope attitudes and performances improve quicker than I'd imagined. The very best of luck to both senior teams down in Dublin as well as our U14/15/16 & 18 teams out tomoro against KK and Dublin. A very important day at all age groups
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 22, 2016, 06:58:49 PM
Good luck to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Good to see CJ getting on well in Australia

WTF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Good to see CJ getting on well in Australia

WTF

What did he do ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Good to see CJ getting on well in Australia

WTF

What did he do ?

Passed a ball in some beach football tournament and we are posting it on the official Antrim twitter site...... slight bug bear at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Good to see CJ getting on well in Australia

WTF

What did he do ?

Passed a ball in some beach football tournament and we are posting it on the official Antrim twitter site...... slight bug bear at the moment.

Yeah I had to unfollow them, some nonsense on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lecale2 on April 23, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
Who are "Fanaithe A Gleanna"?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Justanopinion on April 23, 2016, 09:54:24 AM
Glen Rovers, Armoy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 23, 2016, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 22, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Good to see CJ getting on well in Australia

WTF

What did he do ?

Passed a ball in some beach football tournament and we are posting it on the official Antrim twitter site...... slight bug bear at the moment.

Yeah I had to unfollow them, some nonsense on it.

There is obviously no clear social media / communications strategy other than: must tweet 100 times a day, must retweet everything that's has even the slightest connection to Antrim GAA and must promote Brian Magee's training facility a few times per week.  Its driving people away rather than making them want to follow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 23, 2016, 01:39:43 PM
2-13 to 0-5 halftime Clarke with 2-8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 24, 2016, 02:26:50 PM
Some predictions for today's hurling league games. What do you think?

Division one:

Dunloy V Ballycastle - Town
Cushendall V Portaferry- Dall
Loughgiel V Ballycran - Shams
St John's V Rossa - Johnnies

Division two:

Cloughmills V Clooney - Biddies
Carey V Ballygalget- Ballygalget
Creggan V Gortnamona - Creggan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on April 24, 2016, 06:36:47 PM
Rossa 4-20 St Johns 0-10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on April 24, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on April 24, 2016, 06:36:47 PM
Rossa 4-20 St Johns 0-10

Some scoring there. So much for my predictions above. Three out of four wrong for me in division one. Lol. Great start for Rossa with them two wins. I went up to our game today V Dunloy, we were never at the races. One to forget. On to the next game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 24, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
We should've won by more but for some poor shooting in the first half playing with the breeze. Matty Donnellys tackle should have been a straight red IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 25, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
Loughgiel 0-16
Ballycran 0-15

A good result if not the best performance. Always good to start the league with a win but plenty for the team to work on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 25, 2016, 09:26:11 AM
Was up at Corrigan for the Johnnies Rossa game.
Bit of a non-event.
Rossa built up a lead with the breeze and without the Jonty's St John's hadn't the players to claw it back.
In the end it was one way traffic for Rossa even against the wind.
Poor crowd I thought and subdued game apart from occasional handbags.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 25, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
We should've won by more but for some poor shooting in the first half playing with the breeze. Matty Donnellys tackle should have been a straight red IMO.

Any time I've watched Matty play he always comes across as an honest clean big player. What happened in the tackle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 25, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
We should've won by more but for some poor shooting in the first half playing with the breeze. Matty Donnellys tackle should have been a straight red IMO.

Any time I've watched Matty play he always comes across as an honest clean big player. What happened in the tackle?

Wouldn't call him clean at all
Tried to break shortys neck two years ago. Same thing with kevin molloy  yesterday
Imm glad it was kevin and not some of the younger players or serious damage could have been done
He's gonna hurt somebody real bad
If the ref would  have gave him a str8 red yesterday he might think twice the next time
Wouldn't have a lot of respect for him after yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 25, 2016, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 25, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 25, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 24, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
We should've won by more but for some poor shooting in the first half playing with the breeze. Matty Donnellys tackle should have been a straight red IMO.

Any time I've watched Matty play he always comes across as an honest clean big player. What happened in the tackle?

Wouldn't call him clean at all
Tried to break shortys neck two years ago. Same thing with kevin molloy  yesterday
Imm glad it was kevin and not some of the younger players or serious damage could have been done
He's gonna hurt somebody real bad
If the ref would  have gave him a str8 red yesterday he might think twice the next time
Wouldn't have a lot of respect for him after yesterday

I wasn't at the game so can't comment on that incident. I will say this though. I'm neutral to both clubs and I've watched Matty numerous times over the years (league and championship) and I am of the formed opinion that he is a clean and honest player. Maybe a Ballycastle man could tell us how many times he's been sent off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 25, 2016, 05:31:33 PM
I'm sure Kevins feeling the effect of the impact today. No man is made of steel.

You only have to commit one crime to get a criminal record hurlingstick. The saying 'get a name as an early riser and you can lie all day' springs to mind. The match was videoed so I'll hopefully be able to see it again in the cold light of day, just to see if I wasn't too emotionally invested at the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2016, 10:33:57 AM
Roscommon game is set for Dunloy this sat at 3.30pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 26, 2016, 11:46:49 AM
Is there a full set of hurling league fixtures for Sunday?

How do you guys think the League final will go???!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 26, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on April 26, 2016, 11:46:49 AM
Is there a full set of hurling league fixtures for Sunday?

How do you guys think the League final will go???!!!

Dunloy is away to ballycran

Imm going for Clare In final, very impressive against the cats
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 28, 2016, 12:19:56 PM
Thought this was interesting, the results certainly suggest there's something in it.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/psychologist-helped-kerry-players-get-over-hatred-of-one-another-395276.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 28, 2016, 05:23:45 PM
Anything is worth a try.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 29, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Loads of interest on here for tomorrow's big game!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 29, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Loads of interest on here for tomorrow's big game!!!!!!

Is Loughgiel playing Cushendall??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:20:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 29, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 29, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Loads of interest on here for tomorrow's big game!!!!!!

Is Loughgiel playing Cushendall??
They play us on Sunday so I hope so!

Was to do that game, but I'm in Carlingford  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 29, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:20:24 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 29, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2016, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 29, 2016, 06:03:35 PM
Loads of interest on here for tomorrow's big game!!!!!!

Is Loughgiel playing Cushendall??
They play us on Sunday so I hope so!

Was to do that game, but I'm in Carlingford  :D
A sigh of relief stretches from the Shaws Road to Corkey. ;D

:-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2016, 03:51:56 PM
Antrim 0-01 roscommon 0-03
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 30, 2016, 04:18:02 PM
Antrim 0-07 rossies 0-08 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 30, 2016, 05:58:41 PM
Anybody know the team that started today.. Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on April 30, 2016, 06:10:46 PM
I think it was this
Chrissy o connell
Ryan mc cambridge
Tony mc closkey
Paddy Burke
Eoghan campbell
Neal mc auley
Odhran mc fadden
Ciaran johnson
Eddie mc closkey
Niall mc kenna
Conor carson
John dillon
James connolly
Sean mc afee
Ciaran clarke

Subs used graham elliot duffin Dudley???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on April 30, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
SIE, your last two posts tell their own story.

You tell us the score of the game twice (both when Roscommon happened to be leading).

Did you not stay to the final whistle?

Just highlights how big of a trick (with a p) you really are.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 01, 2016, 10:55:12 AM
What's the opinion on yesterday's game? How were they so close to us for so long? Were they better than expected?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 01, 2016, 11:44:08 AM
Roscommon had plenty of good hurlers and were good value for their lead throughout. I thought they went off the boil not long after their goal (maybe couldn't handle the fact they were in front and lost their nerve) and we started to offer more of an attacking threat at that point.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 01, 2016, 12:14:41 PM
Great to see Nigel Elliott back in the squad. Quality hurler!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 01, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Entertaining tussle at Ballycastle. Two physical teams. 3 sending offs and Shane McNaughton came off the bench???? Thought he wasn't hurling this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 02, 2016, 12:09:08 AM
Missed our game today. Think we were missing a few but tight enough in the end.
yous have definitely improved from last year. Dark horses for the championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
What was the score at half time SIE? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
What was the score at half time SIE? ;D
;D the old Internet about Pearce park is scratchy at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on May 02, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
What was the score at half time SIE? ;D
;D the old Internet about Pearce park is scratchy at best.

Still enough coverage to report scores when you feel the need to though!

You would like to portray yourself as a great Loughgiel supporter but I hear you go to more Dunloy games than Loughgiel games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on May 02, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
What was the score at half time SIE? ;D
;D the old Internet about Pearce park is scratchy at best.

Still enough coverage to report scores when you feel the need to though!

You would like to portray yourself as a great Loughgiel supporter but I hear you go to more Dunloy games than Loughgiel games.
You hear wrong. One side of the field had Internet the other didn't. You're trying too hard.

By the way I don't try to portray myself as anything other than a loughgiel supporter. I've never claimed to be anything else. You're another obsessed poster. Any chance of a training top?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2016, 08:32:14 AM
Skull I see your entertainment skills have been captured on camera ;D

Looked like an event that would have been good craic in Dunloy. Looked like some effort went into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2016, 09:18:22 AM
Didnt get down to our match in Ballycran sunday morning as i was at another match but thats some result for us.Been a few years since we beat Ballycran at home, had started to become a bit of a boggie ground for us. were missing a few lads who were away on a stag doo so its def a good result.

Sunday night at our club was brilliant, have to say everyone who took part, organised and worked at it deserve massive credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 03, 2016, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on May 02, 2016, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 02, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
What was the score at half time SIE? ;D
;D the old Internet about Pearce park is scratchy at best.

Still enough coverage to report scores when you feel the need to though!

You would like to portray yourself as a great Loughgiel supporter but I hear you go to more Dunloy games than Loughgiel games.
You hear wrong. One side of the field had Internet the other didn't. You're trying too hard.

By the way I don't try to portray myself as anything other than a loughgiel supporter. I've never claimed to be anything else. You're another obsessed poster. Any chance of a training top?

Yeah yeah yeah it was the scoreboard transmission signal
Every  time Antrim went in front it suppressed the phone 3G
Must get that fixed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 02:07:56 PM
Would Dunloy academy not have wifi?

Poor SIE, trying to do a good turn for those who couldn't make the game & gets abused for it. Sur
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2016, 02:12:21 PM
Theres no wifi in the academy. The clubrooms do have it so you need to hover close to it to get onto it for updating matches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 02:12:21 PM
Theres no wifi in the academy. The clubrooms do have it so you need to hover close to it to get onto it for updating matches

The Academy is some job btw..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!

;D lol i mind them changing rooms well, entire playing days were used for there.

Glenariffes old changing rooms were something else as well before they got them new ones.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!

;D lol i mind them changing rooms well, entire playing days were used for there.

Glenariffes old changing rooms were something else as well before they got them new ones.

Many a slap I nursed in them changing rooms for sure. Ballymena old ones at the top of the bottom pitch also were fun on a wet night.

There has been some work done around the clubs to bring the facilities up to scratch, Dunloy, Creggan, Glenravel to name a few. Portglenone were out selling tickets for their new place to a few weeks back. Shows the strength of the GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 04, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.



was at your pitch on fri night. the development of the new pitch is coming on really well. Its badly needed down there as having one pitch is not idea when you have football & camogie going on during the year.

That pitch badly needs a rest to try and recover as its in bad shape
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 04, 2016, 01:34:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!

;D lol i mind them changing rooms well, entire playing days were used for there.

Glenariffes old changing rooms were something else as well before they got them new ones.
They were futuristically minimalist before it became fashionable.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 01:47:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 04, 2016, 01:34:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!

;D lol i mind them changing rooms well, entire playing days were used for there.

Glenariffes old changing rooms were something else as well before they got them new ones.
They were futuristically minimalist before it became fashionable.  ;)

The sarnies were always well received ... Everytime, no matter how many times we won  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 04, 2016, 02:01:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 04, 2016, 01:34:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 03, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
its a great place to have, were lucky we have the people with the vision and hunger to do all the work to get us where we are.

The next phase thats to be started is the external 3G pitch on the tarmac surface beside the academy and new flood lighting to replace the existing on the second pitch. That will help with external training for the club and be used for hire as well.

Fantastic, it's come some way from changing upstairs in the old place up the right hand side!

;D lol i mind them changing rooms well, entire playing days were used for there.

Glenariffes old changing rooms were something else as well before they got them new ones.
They were futuristically minimalist before it became fashionable.  ;)

LOL
There was nothing minimalist about the flaking once you hit the grass
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!


Milltown would have given anywhere a run for their money when it came to showers. Asbestos feet required back then to dare to have a shower with the concrete floors and walls painted with a thick green moss. i think thats the reason flip flops for the shower were invented. :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 04, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
I remember changing in a caravan in Glenarm, I think their changing rooms had been set alight in an arson attack at the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 04, 2016, 03:00:34 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 04, 2016, 02:56:14 PM
I remember changing in a caravan in Glenarm, I think their changing rooms had been set alight in an arson attack at the time

Sounds like a scene from the movie Snatch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 04, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
Armoy's old changing rooms that sat on the opposite side of the pitch to the current facilities were the roughest I ever frequented!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 04, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
Armoy's old changing rooms that sat on the opposite side of the pitch to the current facilities were the roughest I ever frequented!

Maybe not a whole load of craic but as somthing a bit different i would love to see a few pictures of Old facilities beside their new facilities posted on here maybe just to get a sence of just how far we as clubs in antrim have come but also to get a look at some of the ones i never had the mis fourtune to have to bare my arse in. ie i never remember the old Armoy ones but if they beat some of the ones ive been in i would love to see them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 04, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
Armoy's old changing rooms that sat on the opposite side of the pitch to the current facilities were the roughest I ever frequented!

Maybe not a whole load of craic but as somthing a bit different i would love to see a few pictures of Old facilities beside their new facilities posted on here maybe just to get a sence of just how far we as clubs in antrim have come but also to get a look at some of the ones i never had the mis fourtune to have to bare my arse in. ie i never remember the old Armoy ones but if they beat some of the ones ive been in i would love to see them.

Great idea.

I remember being at the opening of Glenravels new place and they had show of photos from old to new. Was very good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 04, 2016, 04:16:15 PM
thats one of our old changing rooms. i mind doing the same and going up stairs as a kid to stand at the window to get a good view of the game and then being threw out of them by the teams who didnt want us in lol

I rem also playing at the Feis weekend in Carey in the U16 McMullan cup final v Lgiel and we had to change up stairs in what appeared to be a barn of some sorts lol

(http://dunloygac.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/1.jpg)

its some difference to what we are lucky to have now
(http://dunloygac.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/12309509_509225755922816_1200952798046714642_o.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on May 04, 2016, 04:43:33 PM
Is that top changing room gone now Dunloy Realist?
I remember getting changed in it as well years and years ago!
Ive never noticed it gone anytime ive been up since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 04, 2016, 04:59:49 PM
WTF ..... Were you cryogenically frozen for the past 20 years doodaa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 04, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on May 04, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
Armoy's old changing rooms that sat on the opposite side of the pitch to the current facilities were the roughest I ever frequented!

Maybe not a whole load of craic but as somthing a bit different i would love to see a few pictures of Old facilities beside their new facilities posted on here maybe just to get a sence of just how far we as clubs in antrim have come but also to get a look at some of the ones i never had the mis fourtune to have to bare my arse in. ie i never remember the old Armoy ones but if they beat some of the ones ive been in i would love to see them.

Great idea.

I remember being at the opening of Glenravels new place and they had show of photos from old to new. Was very good.

Glenravel's old changing rooms were decent for their time (my home club). Started playing in the late 70's and we at least had a brick building. Dont remember anywhere having hot showers.
That photo of Dunloy's new facilities is very impressive. Would put a lot of professional sports clubs to shame. All gaels who have worked to ensure transformation of their club facilities should be very proud.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!


Milltown would have given anywhere a run for their money when it came to showers. Asbestos feet required back then to dare to have a shower with the concrete floors and walls painted with a thick green moss. i think thats the reason flip flops for the shower were invented. :-[

Not going to argue with that..... When I managed teams I was down early brushing those rooms out, embarrassing to be fair, and why we didn't have good changing rooms when we were making money as a busy social club back I the day is beyond me.... To be fair there is great work being done by current committee so changes are coming... Hopefully
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!


Milltown would have given anywhere a run for their money when it came to showers. Asbestos feet required back then to dare to have a shower with the concrete floors and walls painted with a thick green moss. i think thats the reason flip flops for the shower were invented. :-[

Not going to argue with that..... When I managed teams I was down early brushing those rooms out, embarrassing to be fair, and why we didn't have good changing rooms when we were making money as a busy social club back I the day is beyond me.... To be fair there is great work being done by current committee so changes are coming... Hopefully

I'd swap clean changing rooms for a few county titles..

Fur Coat, no knickers come to mind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!


Milltown would have given anywhere a run for their money when it came to showers. Asbestos feet required back then to dare to have a shower with the concrete floors and walls painted with a thick green moss. i think thats the reason flip flops for the shower were invented. :-[

Not going to argue with that..... When I managed teams I was down early brushing those rooms out, embarrassing to be fair, and why we didn't have good changing rooms when we were making money as a busy social club back I the day is beyond me.... To be fair there is great work being done by current committee so changes are coming... Hopefully

I'd swap clean changing rooms for a few county titles..

Fur Coat, no knickers come to mind

Would like to have a facility that matches our success...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 04, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 04, 2016, 10:35:27 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 04, 2016, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 04, 2016, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 11:56:44 PM
Quote from: ned on May 03, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 03, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 03, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
By default that probably means PaddyJohn that you never had the unenviable pleasure of changing in the tin huts at Hugomont! Now that was an experience.

What age do you think I am?? Lol

All Saints have done a power of work, credit to the club.

Never mind the changing rooms, that pitch tested my limited skills. Sometimes had to beat a man and a low hanging branch! Most uneven pitch ever. We used to change in our cars or the bus.
Always liked Dunloy's old changing rooms. Seemed exotic going upstairs to get ready. Scene of my last ever match. I had a stormer unusually but was away to England soon after. Miss those days. You young lot are spoiled.  ;)

Never played on the hugomount pitch. I agree always was something about coming down the stairs and hitting the daylight that got the blood going.

Memories eh?

The old Dunloy changing rooms were way ahead of their times, overlooking the pitch, a dozen lads crammed against the windows looking out on a shitty day. I think one of the windows was cracked and had a sock stuck in it IIRC.
They were par for the course back then to be fair.
Showering was a hit or a miss in most clubs, either freezing cold water or piping hot, no mixer taps in sight!!


Milltown would have given anywhere a run for their money when it came to showers. Asbestos feet required back then to dare to have a shower with the concrete floors and walls painted with a thick green moss. i think thats the reason flip flops for the shower were invented. :-[

Not going to argue with that..... When I managed teams I was down early brushing those rooms out, embarrassing to be fair, and why we didn't have good changing rooms when we were making money as a busy social club back I the day is beyond me.... To be fair there is great work being done by current committee so changes are coming... Hopefully

I'd swap clean changing rooms for a few county titles..

Fur Coat, no knickers come to mind

Would like to have a facility that matches our success...

I come from what was a pretty steady club in Antrim, not a lot of success but we promoted the games and culture as best we could. We built a new clubhouse a few years back. During the building process and fundraising process a club member told us to keep our eye on the ball and don't let up on the coaching and get side tracked by the new place. In my opinion we didn't, we let the ball drop and as a result we lost the momentum that we had. We are now in a position that we are playing catch up in Football & Hurling. That's my fear for other clubs, they get sidetracked from what is most important in the GAA, the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2016, 08:52:03 AM
One club that are in bad need of new changing facilities is cloughmills. was in their place the other week and they are grim. I know that they are trying to raise money to get new changing rooms constructed and thats great to see but its a long struggle.

That being said they have one of the best pitches to play on about. Their club has been brilliant with ourselves in working out an agreement to allow our club to train on it and play matches on it should the weather rule ours out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 05, 2016, 09:51:26 AM
Dunloy set up is very impressive.

We played Sarsfields the other week, there new 4G pitch is some set up. Place was bunged with juvenile training and didn't stop in the 2 hrs that we were there.

There lad doing umpire was telling me that have new changing rooms in the pipeline, hope to have them up this year sometime. That along with the terracing and seating is very impressive.

All clubs looking to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 05, 2016, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2016, 08:52:03 AM
One club that are in bad need of new changing facilities is cloughmills. was in their place the other week and they are grim. I know that they are trying to raise money to get new changing rooms constructed and thats great to see but its a long struggle.

That being said they have one of the best pitches to play on about. Their club has been brilliant with ourselves in working out an agreement to allow our club to train on it and play matches on it should the weather rule ours out.

Have to agree, cmills is very poor. No showers etc in this day and age is just no use for traveling teams.

Miltown have pretty poor away changing rooms too but I'd say the worst in Belfast which I have witnessed is Sarsfields. They've maybe changed it now but a few years ago it was desperate!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 06, 2016, 12:31:11 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/you-reap-what-you-sow-and-we-havent-sown-anything-former-offaly-hurler-on-countys-demise-34689889.html

Excellent article here. Just replace the word Offaly with Antrim and it sounds about the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 06, 2016, 12:43:25 PM
i read that the other day as well. Its an honest reflection of the state of Offaly and hurling in the county.

To be fair Antrim have long known that we were in bad shape and have openly admitted it. Offaly and a few other counties have been living in a bubble thinking they were still as good as they used to be. They dont merit being directly in the Leinster Championship at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 06, 2016, 03:53:26 PM
I picked up on the part on the standard of development squads. This is really important. Have we the best people possible taking our squads? Is what's being done at development sessions a significant step up from club coaching? If not we're wasting time, finances and jeopardizing future competitiveness......Hopefully these things are scrutinised and analysed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 06, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
To get enough quality resources at county level there needs to be excess coaching resources in clubs

I'd say the quality of coaching resources this year is as good as it's been. Some good men in there at all grades

I'd genuinely be interested to know how good Dev squad coaching should differ from good club coaching?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 07, 2016, 09:12:32 PM
Good result for Westmeath. I'm sure Kerry quietly fancied themselves. Down heating Roscommon 1.14 to 1.07 if I'm not mistaken ......we'd need to take note.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingguru on May 08, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
What do we think are chances are against Down in 2 weeks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2016, 04:11:31 PM
Quote from: hurlingguru on May 08, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
What do we think are chances are against Down in 2 weeks?

I'd say if we cant beat Down we may as well pack it in and concentrate on Rounders
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on May 08, 2016, 04:52:53 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6ifaX6srMAhWmIsAKHepsDacQFghaMAY&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FAresson-Image-Rounders-Bat-White%2Fdp%2FB001T4B5GE&usg=AFQjCNHhhDCJXXa7qUWYqoMc5NJAE3oQeg&sig2=YOMd8qzfEiiV356QpKJDhQ

Maybe a business opportunity here for you MR2 here get in ahead of the rush and get stocked up :P ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 08, 2016, 10:16:31 PM
Why was there no games fixed for today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2016, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 08, 2016, 10:16:31 PM
Why was there no games fixed for today

Warmest day of the year, so they said feck it! Wait till its raining!!  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 09, 2016, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2016, 11:26:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 08, 2016, 10:16:31 PM
Why was there no games fixed for today
Was wondering that myself. Cemetery Sunday in Milltown.  ;D

It was 'La Na Club' day (excuse the spelling) i will let HS correct it. there were to be no fixtures in any county (im sure someone here will find some) and clubs were encouraged to have a club celebration/promotion day. i know our club had a Family bbq and traditional music with a bit of puck/kick fada and a few other games. i actually think it was a good idea (if your club took part) and allowed familys to enjoy a day together in the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 09, 2016, 09:32:48 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 06, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
To get enough quality resources at county level there needs to be excess coaching resources in clubs

I'd say the quality of coaching resources this year is as good as it's been. Some good men in there at all grades

I'd genuinely be interested to know how good Dev squad coaching should differ from good club coaching?

Entirely correct. Good coaching is good coaching - there's no reason why that in Clubs should be any different.

My issue with "development" squads in Antrim is that they are actually "elite" Squads. They take already well developed players away from their Clubs (who developed them) and as a result limit the ability of other players to develop - due to decimated training sessions or cancelled matches.
If these were genuinely development squads - they should concentrate on good players at weaker club - who are at risk of falling through the net. Otherwise - lets just call them what they are - county teams.

Otherwise I was down for the replay yesterday - and stunned. Firstly by the Clare comeback - and secondly by the decision not award a Waterford free at the death. It looked stonewall at the time, and TV confirmed it for me. So I left with little more than a sunburnt scalp from the day! Hopefully Waterford can turn this for bigger prizes. I know the Munster championship means so much - but I think a back door route could suit a team this year also.

As for Antrim, lifting the Christy Ring is a minimum requirement. Hopefully it can finish the year with at leas a  smile on those players who deserve it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on May 09, 2016, 03:18:55 PM
Just heard that the U21 Championship match between Ruairi Og and McQuillans is off tonight. Ballycastle have been trying to get it moved for over a week now, with the reason being that players were working away from home.

It's a joke when a championship can't start on time and players from Cushendall have prepared well for this game and now it's off.

Sometimes you have to ask yourself what's the point!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 09, 2016, 03:33:41 PM
Im sure another week wont make a big difference, theres not a lot can be done if your missing players to work commitments.

Lgiel were more than accommodating to move the senior game that they had prepared for from the Sunday to a Monday night to suit a stag doo. Clubs have to work with each other when the need arises.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 09, 2016, 04:30:33 PM
If players are working away this Monday would they not be working away next Monday as well? How many under 21 players aren't either at school or uni? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 09, 2016, 05:09:24 PM
Wouldnt yesterday have been the perfect day for it if common sense was employed  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 09, 2016, 06:26:54 PM
Under 21 1/4s and semis have been on a Monday night this past few years although I agree yesterday was the day for it. Our match v Dunloy was called off yesterday because of the under 21 match tonight. Now it's off too. 24 hours that sum up many of our problems in Antrim. Matches should be fixed and played. Fellas working away isn't a reason to look for a game called off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on May 09, 2016, 10:35:41 PM
DR  We did try and find an alternative date for the fixture but to no avail, McQuillans where informed on this on Friday
But chose to wait until this morning to request that the ccc moved the fixture to a Date that suited Cushendall Doh!! The normal practice is if Both clubs agree then the fixture can be moved, on this occasion one club got it moved, handy having the CCC chairman from your club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: culchie11 on May 09, 2016, 10:37:27 PM
So it's ok for games to be called off when ur own club r running round looking them off, but not when another club is!  everybody looks after themselves.

Lads stag do, weddings, etc r now acceptable excuses for getting games called off again!

certain members of Ccc r only interested when their own club is involved.

There will be more of this as the year progresses!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on May 09, 2016, 11:01:12 PM
Your right games can be moved but only when BOTH clubs agree!! But this is Championship and I can't remember CCC calling a championship game off on one clubs request perhaps someone else can enlightened me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2016, 11:19:25 PM
Quote from: Hand up on May 09, 2016, 11:01:12 PM
Your right games can be moved but only when BOTH clubs agree!! But this is Championship and I can't remember CCC calling a championship game off on one clubs request perhaps someone else can enlightened me.

Generally they make you play the game and if you don't turn up you are out..... They'd no problems kicking us out of the Nelson cup at start of year.... But hey different things for different clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 06:37:55 AM
They wouldn't move a league game for us earlier on. One rule for some and a different rule for others.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 10, 2016, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 06:37:55 AM
They wouldn't move a league game for us earlier on. One rule for some and a different rule for others.

Exactly. Cushendall and Loughgiel both agreed to move a fixture but CCC wouldn't oblige and Cushendall were punished. Now Ballycastle can get a Championship game moved on short notice?

It's things like this that drive people mad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2016, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 09, 2016, 06:26:54 PM
Under 21 1/4s and semis have been on a Monday night this past few years although I agree yesterday was the day for it. Our match v Dunloy was called off yesterday because of the under 21 match tonight. Now it's off too. 24 hours that sum up many of our problems in Antrim. Matches should be fixed and played. Fellas working away isn't a reason to look for a game called off.

we werent fixed to play yourselves JJ. Sunday was a free day for clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Yes you were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 10, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Yes you were.

GAA President, Aogán Ó Fearghail, has announced the return of Lá na gClubanna to the GAA Calendar in 2016. This special day dedicated to GAA clubs and club activities will take place on Sunday May 8th.



The inaugural Lá na gClubanna was held in 2009 as part of the GAA's national events to mark our 125th Anniversary.




This festival will be a day when Clubs will take centre stage and afford them the opportunity to celebrate their existence and impact in their community and reconnect with their locality.




Omagh St. Enda's and Tyrone GAA Star, Joe McMahon, was in Croke Park for the launch of La na gClubanna 2016


Clubs are being encouraged to keep this date free and to plan events to fittingly mark the role they play in their community. The return of this special Club day is part of a concerted effort to champion our Clubs as the most important part of the Association. Uachtarán Aogán Ó Fearghail said off the project:


"Where we are at our best in the GAA – is in the Clubs. The absolute importance of the Club to the GAA is something I see and am made keenly aware of in my regular visits to clubs around the country and abroad.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 10, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 10, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Yes you were.

GAA President, Aogán Ó Fearghail, has announced the return of Lá na gClubanna to the GAA Calendar in 2016. This special day dedicated to GAA clubs and club activities will take place on Sunday May 8th.



The inaugural Lá na gClubanna was held in 2009 as part of the GAA's national events to mark our 125th Anniversary.




This festival will be a day when Clubs will take centre stage and afford them the opportunity to celebrate their existence and impact in their community and reconnect with their locality.



Omagh St. Enda's and Tyrone GAA Star, Joe McMahon, was in Croke Park for the launch of La na gClubanna 2016


Clubs are being encouraged to keep this date free and to plan events to fittingly mark the role they play in their community. The return of this special Club day is part of a concerted effort to champion our Clubs as the most important part of the Association. Uachtarán Aogán Ó Fearghail said off the project:


"Where we are at our best in the GAA – is in the Clubs. The absolute importance of the Club to the GAA is something I see and am made keenly aware of in my regular visits to clubs around the country and abroad.

Mr Brolly took the Uacharan to task over this. His argument was that Clubs are already in touch with their locality - and that this was patronising. Rather it's the top brass who need to re-connect.
A good point well made.
A lot of the stuff that goes on for photoshoots etc in La na gClubanna actually goes on all year every year.
When it came to actually doing something concrete to help CLubs - Congress failed miserably.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 10, 2016, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 10, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 10, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Yes you were.

GAA President, Aogán Ó Fearghail, has announced the return of Lá na gClubanna to the GAA Calendar in 2016. This special day dedicated to GAA clubs and club activities will take place on Sunday May 8th.



The inaugural Lá na gClubanna was held in 2009 as part of the GAA's national events to mark our 125th Anniversary.




This festival will be a day when Clubs will take centre stage and afford them the opportunity to celebrate their existence and impact in their community and reconnect with their locality.



Omagh St. Enda's and Tyrone GAA Star, Joe McMahon, was in Croke Park for the launch of La na gClubanna 2016


Clubs are being encouraged to keep this date free and to plan events to fittingly mark the role they play in their community. The return of this special Club day is part of a concerted effort to champion our Clubs as the most important part of the Association. Uachtarán Aogán Ó Fearghail said off the project:


"Where we are at our best in the GAA – is in the Clubs. The absolute importance of the Club to the GAA is something I see and am made keenly aware of in my regular visits to clubs around the country and abroad.

Mr Brolly took the Uacharan to task over this. His argument was that Clubs are already in touch with their locality - and that this was patronising. Rather it's the top brass who need to re-connect.
A good point well made.
A lot of the stuff that goes on for photoshoots etc in La na gClubanna actually goes on all year every year.
When it came to actually doing something concrete to help CLubs - Congress failed miserably.

very good points made, i was basically just outlining the facy that the date was to be kept free.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2016, 03:04:34 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 10, 2016, 12:33:51 PM
Yes you were.

lol no we werent. our next game in the fixture list after Ballycran was Lgiel tomorrow night. Were due to play yourselves on the 8th of June in Dunloy with the return fixture on the weds night the 10th of Aug.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on May 10, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
Both Jesus Jones and Hand Up always know best - you should know that. After all they have their finger in most things. Call it brotherly love!

As for us calling game off - game should have been played last night. We have a few lads working away. Tough. Can't argue with anyone about the reasons. Our esteemed secretary is able to get his way with most things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:33:09 PM
That was one peculiar game of hurling between Shamrocks and Dunloy. Terrible sending off in the first ten minutes!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:56:52 PM
Was anyone at St. Johns v Ballycastle?  .....What was your take on the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.

I know frustration and as a player and manager you do feel pissed off when a ref doesn't see the foul you see, but that's it, he doesn't see it he doesn't blow.... But what he will hear is when you call him a cnut!! That player has let his team down, frustrated or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.

Yes, Nicky decided 'just for the Craic' to call the referee a cnut. It was a terrible foul on him thus the reaction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win

Correct, exactly how I read it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.

Yes, Nicky decided 'just for the Craic' to call the referee a cnut. It was a terrible foul on him thus the reaction.

We've all been tackled fouled and it was blatant but the ref decided not to blow, now consider how many times that happens in a game.... How many players then get up and call the ref a (insert club) cnut??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.

Yes, Nicky decided 'just for the Craic' to call the referee a cnut. It was a terrible foul on him thus the reaction.

We've all been tackled fouled and it was blatant but the ref decided not to blow, now consider how many times that happens in a game.... How many players then get up and call the ref a (insert club) cnut??

Was a dangerous tackle though ....round the throat. Ref missed it player reacted badly .....the game loses out as a result of two poor decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:47:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.

Yes, Nicky decided 'just for the Craic' to call the referee a cnut. It was a terrible foul on him thus the reaction.

We've all been tackled fouled and it was blatant but the ref decided not to blow, now consider how many times that happens in a game.... How many players then get up and call the ref a (insert club) cnut??

Was a dangerous tackle though ....round the throat. Ref missed it player reacted badly .....the game loses out as a result of two poor decisions.

Hey, that may be case and I haven't argued that...


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 11:01:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:47:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:35:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2016, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 09:41:08 PM
Funny game alright. Dunloy looked sharp enough at times. Loughgiel have plenty to work on and quite a number to come back in yet.
Regarding the sending off, if you call the ref an Armoy c##t you deserve sent off.

The point is Nicky was pulled to the ground by the throat and no free was given. It was shocking and therefore I can totally understand his frustration.

You also understand you can't call the ref a cnut??

Of course you can't however players will naturally get frustrated when a referee misses a blatant and dangerous foul that the whole ground seen. Shamrock fans said it was a clear foul too.
Blatant and dangerous foul. Grabbing by the throat- what game were you at!  I didn't see any of that and I wasn't far away.

Yes, Nicky decided 'just for the Craic' to call the referee a cnut. It was a terrible foul on him thus the reaction.

We've all been tackled fouled and it was blatant but the ref decided not to blow, now consider how many times that happens in a game.... How many players then get up and call the ref a (insert club) cnut??

Was a dangerous tackle though ....round the throat. Ref missed it player reacted badly .....the game loses out as a result of two poor decisions.

Hey, that may be case and I haven't argued that...

I think you're being fair and i fully take your point. Players make mistakes, referees make mistakes. All part of our great game or poor game as it was tonight!! Shamrocks have a lot of work to do although it's early days yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win

Correct, exactly how I read it.

Funny that. You started this off by saying it was a terrible sending off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 11, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
You can't call the ref that
You could ask him what's his guide dog called at times like that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win

Correct, exactly how I read it.

Funny that. You started this off by saying it was a terrible sending off.

You're struggling to keep up here Brocky .....terrible in that if the ref had seen the original foul it would never have happened. It was born out of frustration.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 11, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
You can't call the ref that
You could ask him what's his guide dog called at times like that

Ha ha .....might be a yellow for that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on May 11, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
We beat Rossa in Shaws Rd by 2 points, I wasn't there but it was supposed to be good tough game and we did well to take the points home. A Mate told me he was well impressed with Rossa who will stay in Div 1 for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 12, 2016, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win

Correct, exactly how I read it.

Funny that. You started this off by saying it was a terrible sending off.

You're struggling to keep up here Brocky .....terrible in that if the ref had seen the original foul it would never have happened. It was born out of frustration.

Don't think I'm struggling. Anyway I've made my point. You've made your point. Leave it that way.
Some shooting drills wouldn't go amiss at Loughgiel training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 12, 2016, 08:59:38 AM
St Galls have two lads on the hurling team kicking big balls for Antrim on Sunday Milltown?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 12, 2016, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: Brocky on May 12, 2016, 08:09:14 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 11, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 11, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 11, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Deserved a free
Deserved the line

I'm sure both referee and player are man enough to acknowledge the poor decisions made.

Struggled a man down in the second half and just did enough to hold on and get the win

Correct, exactly how I read it.

Funny that. You started this off by saying it was a terrible sending off.

You're struggling to keep up here Brocky .....terrible in that if the ref had seen the original foul it would never have happened. It was born out of frustration.

Don't think I'm struggling. Anyway I've made my point. You've made your point. Leave it that way.
Some shooting drills wouldn't go amiss at Loughgiel training.

Sounds fair to me. Their shooting was horrible first half and some of second. slightly better second half. The goal was a cracker especially the pass from Benny McCarry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 12, 2016, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 12, 2016, 08:59:38 AM
St Galls have two lads on the hurling team kicking big balls for Antrim on Sunday Milltown?

Sean and Conor Burke. Two great players. St. Galls have plenty of dual players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 12, 2016, 11:31:49 AM
We're bound to be favs now for the championship lol

was an odd enough game between ourselves and Loughgiel. Both teams looked flat at times and were guilty of both missing standard enough frees.

On the sending off the ref missed the foul and nicky reacted and got a red. cant argue with that. Thought the ref was grand overall, let the game flow and blew it up when it needed. A few handbags and he dealt with them all well with no bookings and let the game settle down again.

Decent win for ourselves and its brought a bit of confidence back to the camp. 4 wins on the trot has been a long time in coming and to beat Ballycran away and then Lgiel away, well its been a few years since we have done that.

Still a few to come back on again with Kevin McQuillian & shorty on recovery and woody had a slight knock as well. Add to that we have some great young minors who still arent in the team we have something to look forward to for once :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 12, 2016, 11:42:36 AM
Think Brocky was the only man to not see the foul on Nicky. Nigel Elliott is a stylish operator, great to see him back fit and well. Equally so Benny McCarry. Few scuffles which Mark let go and I think rightly so. Shorty, Nigel, Benny, Saul, Clarkie, Eddie. .....imagine those six starting up front for the county? Pace and quality galore!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on May 12, 2016, 11:46:30 AM
Is saul not on the christy ring panel, i dont think i seen him feature.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 12, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: ardtole on May 12, 2016, 11:46:30 AM
Is saul not on the christy ring panel, i dont think i seen him feature.

No he's not there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 12, 2016, 12:42:49 PM
Who was Lgiels no18 with the white helmet on? he was starting to torture us near the end and popped over some impressive points on the side line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 12, 2016, 12:45:44 PM
Was that James McNaughton? ??? Can't remember
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The stig on May 12, 2016, 01:30:15 PM
Duck Mcfadden
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 12, 2016, 01:43:12 PM
James McNaughton was 10 - blue helmet. Scored Loughgiel's goal at the end.

18 white helmet was Duck.

Dunloy deserved to win but we missed a very scoreable free at the end that would of given us a draw.  I thought it was a poor enough game, very scrappy but still an interesting watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2016, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: Hand up on May 11, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
We beat Rossa in Shaws Rd by 2 points, I wasn't there but it was supposed to be good tough game and we did well to take the points home. A Mate told me he was well impressed with Rossa who will stay in Div 1 for sure.

Decent game, Rossa kept plugging away, took their points and the one chance of a goal they took it too lead.... But Dall came back, they managed to take easier scores but the goals won it for them... Rossa wont be off the pace come championship...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Championship is a long way away. Positive start to the league which was needed as it's gonna be a tough one this year. No easy games for anyone. There is a buzz about the club with the centenary etc and it seems to be carrying to the teams. New manager this year will have freshened things up, he's one of our greatest club men and will get 100% from players. Knows a bit too. I'd say nobody is getting carried away but just keeping on working at it.
Who's the new manager??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Championship is a long way away. Positive start to the league which was needed as it's gonna be a tough one this year. No easy games for anyone. There is a buzz about the club with the centenary etc and it seems to be carrying to the teams. New manager this year will have freshened things up, he's one of our greatest club men and will get 100% from players. Knows a bit too. I'd say nobody is getting carried away but just keeping on working at it.
Who's the new manager??

Is it Jim Close?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Championship is a long way away. Positive start to the league which was needed as it's gonna be a tough one this year. No easy games for anyone. There is a buzz about the club with the centenary etc and it seems to be carrying to the teams. New manager this year will have freshened things up, he's one of our greatest club men and will get 100% from players. Knows a bit too. I'd say nobody is getting carried away but just keeping on working at it.
Who's the new manager??

Is it Jim Close?
Yeah.

Jim is a good guy, plenty respect too id imagine from the team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 13, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Championship is a long way away. Positive start to the league which was needed as it's gonna be a tough one this year. No easy games for anyone. There is a buzz about the club with the centenary etc and it seems to be carrying to the teams. New manager this year will have freshened things up, he's one of our greatest club men and will get 100% from players. Knows a bit too. I'd say nobody is getting carried away but just keeping on working at it.
Who's the new manager??

Is it Jim Close?
Yeah.

Jim is a good guy, plenty respect too id imagine from the team

Did Jim Close play on some of the good Antrim teams in early 90's? Great dual player?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2016, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: ned on May 13, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 13, 2016, 10:59:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2016, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on May 13, 2016, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2016, 11:52:12 PM
Championship is a long way away. Positive start to the league which was needed as it's gonna be a tough one this year. No easy games for anyone. There is a buzz about the club with the centenary etc and it seems to be carrying to the teams. New manager this year will have freshened things up, he's one of our greatest club men and will get 100% from players. Knows a bit too. I'd say nobody is getting carried away but just keeping on working at it.
Who's the new manager??

Is it Jim Close?
Yeah.

Jim is a good guy, plenty respect too id imagine from the team

Did Jim Close play on some of the good Antrim teams in early 90's? Great dual player?

He tended to be a sub I think but made a good difference when he came on generally. He had some speed about him. Most of that Close family did / do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
Watched a few videos of Antrim games recently. The referees whilst trying to be fair tend to blow for small things instead of letting the game flow. If you watch other games in the south the main objective is to let it go as much as possible, within reason.
The result is you get players mentors and fans all shouting for frees for anything and the standard of hurling goes down.
I really think we need to have someone in control try to have a word with the refs.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2016, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 14, 2016, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
Watched a few videos of Antrim games recently. The referees whilst trying to be fair tend to blow for small things instead of letting the game flow. If you watch other games in the south the main objective is to let it go as much as possible, within reason.
The result is you get players mentors and fans all shouting for frees for anything and the standard of hurling goes down.
I really think we need to have someone in control try to have a word with the refs.
Any thoughts?
Perhaps players in those other counties are more willing to take big hits/borderline frees and get on with it. Is there a mentality in Antrim that if you take a big hit, you need to instantly restore your pride by having a whack at your aggressor asap, leading to a row? I would say refs are more than willing to let the game go but feel it can lead to the game getting out of hand.

Very good post HS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Valid enough HS. I don't think it's just that either. The refs at times blow for little things that are probably frees but you do see the fouled player carrying on and then stopping as the ref blew it.
There is definitely a bit of both.
My ideal game is when you forget who the referee was and it's all about the hurling.
I think to progress to the proper intensity and speed of hurling this is something that has to change and it has to start with the refs.
Even talking to both teams before the game to set out what way they intend to referee the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Valid enough HS. I don't think it's just that either. The refs at times blow for little things that are probably frees but you do see the fouled player carrying on and then stopping as the ref blew it.
There is definitely a bit of both.
My ideal game is when you forget who the referee was and it's all about the hurling.
I think to progress to the proper intensity and speed of hurling this is something that has to change and it has to start with the refs.
Even talking to both teams before the game to set out what way they intend to referee the game.

Not a believer in telling teams how I'm refereeing it.... I blow for a foul I see and move on... I won't see every free nor will I keep everyone happy... If it flows its down to the teams... Worst thing that comes from players if a little melee happens... You caused that ref!! Ah feck off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 15, 2016, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Valid enough HS. I don't think it's just that either. The refs at times blow for little things that are probably frees but you do see the fouled player carrying on and then stopping as the ref blew it.
There is definitely a bit of both.
My ideal game is when you forget who the referee was and it's all about the hurling.
I think to progress to the proper intensity and speed of hurling this is something that has to change and it has to start with the refs.
Even talking to both teams before the game to set out what way they intend to referee the game.

Not a believer in telling teams how I'm refereeing it.... I blow for a foul I see and move on... I won't see every free nor will I keep everyone happy... If it flows its down to the teams... Worst thing that comes from players if a little melee happens... You caused that ref!! Ah feck off

Do you agree there is an issue. Be it refs or players with too many silly Frees that affect the speed of our games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 15, 2016, 12:43:12 AM
I don't so much see an issue over what is / isn't a foul. 
It's more consistency for me.
If the ref is consistent then no complaint - get use to his style & judgement.
Insistency from one decision to the next is most frustrating.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on May 15, 2016, 08:40:09 AM
The issue is the speed and intensity of our hurling.
We need to get it installed in everyone that you let it go and lose this soccer attitude which is creeping in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: Brocky on May 15, 2016, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Valid enough HS. I don't think it's just that either. The refs at times blow for little things that are probably frees but you do see the fouled player carrying on and then stopping as the ref blew it.
There is definitely a bit of both.
My ideal game is when you forget who the referee was and it's all about the hurling.
I think to progress to the proper intensity and speed of hurling this is something that has to change and it has to start with the refs.
Even talking to both teams before the game to set out what way they intend to referee the game.

Not a believer in telling teams how I'm refereeing it.... I blow for a foul I see and move on... I won't see every free nor will I keep everyone happy... If it flows its down to the teams... Worst thing that comes from players if a little melee happens... You caused that ref!! Ah feck off

Do you agree there is an issue. Be it refs or players with too many silly Frees that affect the speed of our games?

One thing you are told as a ref is blow for a foul.... Now with the advantage rule you let the game carry on a bit.... Some clubs would rather have the free and take the point, others who have the ability to create a goal will want the advantage, dammed if you dammed if you don't!!! I suspect your silly frees are jersey pulling and push in back??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 15, 2016, 09:53:34 AM
Just hurl like the oul days when a ref was optional. Players used to murder each other during a game, shake hands after the final whistle, have a feed of pints and make love to each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 15, 2016, 09:53:34 AM
Just hurl like the oul days when a ref was optional. Players used to murder each other during a game, shake hands after the final whistle, have a feed of pints and make love to each other.

Id never any problems with that, though shaking hands while bloodied and swollen was always hard!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: Brocky on May 14, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Valid enough HS. I don't think it's just that either. The refs at times blow for little things that are probably frees but you do see the fouled player carrying on and then stopping as the ref blew it.
There is definitely a bit of both.
My ideal game is when you forget who the referee was and it's all about the hurling.
I think to progress to the proper intensity and speed of hurling this is something that has to change and it has to start with the refs.
Even talking to both teams before the game to set out what way they intend to referee the game.

Not a believer in telling teams how I'm refereeing it.... I blow for a foul I see and move on... I won't see every free nor will I keep everyone happy... If it flows its down to the teams... Worst thing that comes from players if a little melee happens... You caused that ref!! Ah feck off

MR2 That is the most relevant statement to the subject. The flow of the game, some refs are way to picky and whistle happy while others try to let it flow to much by letting obvious or even blatant frees go. Its very hard to strike a balance when some teams are more partial to the dark arts and some teams just want to hurl.
I think the ref standards in antrim are getting better and more aligned with the south and i think management and fans are understanding now  the guy in the middle wont see and get everything right. The worst ref performance I have seen this year was in Thurles and not Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
Look we cant not have a ref.... Unfortunately he will not keep everyone happy though the winning team seem happy!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 15, 2016, 09:53:34 AM
Just hurl like the oul days when a ref was optional. Players used to murder each other during a game, shake hands after the final whistle, have a feed of pints and make love to each other.

Id never any problems with that, though shaking hands while bloodied and swollen was always hard!!

(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/6/005/0a9/260/129a543.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on May 09, 2016, 03:18:55 PM
Just heard that the U21 Championship match between Ruairi Og and McQuillans is off tonight. Ballycastle have been trying to get it moved for over a week now, with the reason being that players were working away from home.

Any reason why that U21 game couldn't have been fixed for this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on May 09, 2016, 03:18:55 PM
Just heard that the U21 Championship match between Ruairi Og and McQuillans is off tonight. Ballycastle have been trying to get it moved for over a week now, with the reason being that players were working away from home.

Any reason why that U21 game couldn't have been fixed for this weekend?

Antrim love in for today!! All roads lead to Brewster Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
Any reason why that U21 game couldn't have been fixed for this weekend?

Antrim love in for today!! All roads lead to Brewster Park

.. makes total sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 15, 2016, 04:02:54 PM
Under 21 game couldn't be fixed for today. We have a fella with a zero hours contract in McDonalds in Belfast. He was making Mc Flurrys today so match off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 15, 2016, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 15, 2016, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 15, 2016, 09:53:34 AM
Just hurl like the oul days when a ref was optional. Players used to murder each other during a game, shake hands after the final whistle, have a feed of pints and make love to each other.

Id never any problems with that, though shaking hands while bloodied and swollen was always hard!!

(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_200_200/p/6/005/0a9/260/129a543.jpg)
ffnaarrr fffnnnaarrr
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
North Antrim (U18) Darragh Cup semi's last night

Dunloy beat Cushendall in a well contested game 3-23(ish) to 1-16(ish). Both teams had fine hurlers on display.

How'd the other semi go against Ballycastle & Naomh Padraig?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 17, 2016, 10:51:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 17, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
North Antrim (U18) Darragh Cup semi's last night

Dunloy beat Cushendall in a well contested game 3-23(ish) to 1-16(ish). Both teams had fine hurlers on display.

How'd the other semi go against Ballycastle & Naomh Padraig?

Cuchullains   3.23   v   1.17   Ruairi Og      
McQuillans           1.14   v   1.13   Naomh Padraig   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
Played a South Antrim game last night!!! sore now but feck its great to strike a ball, tackle and get hit (weirdly)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 17, 2016, 12:09:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
Played a South Antrim game last night!!! sore now but feck its great to strike a ball, tackle and get hit (weirdly)

Hope you didnt give the referee any bad manners  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on May 17, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
MR2 - good to see a referee that plays a bit maith thu! but did you really strike a ball (cant count the warm up)  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2016, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: Dualta Duane on May 17, 2016, 12:17:20 PM
MR2 - good to see a referee that plays a bit maith thu! but did you really strike a ball (cant count the warm up)  ;D

Hey!! Managed few points too!! And I never said dickey bird to the ref!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 18, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Will the Loughiel v Cushendal game go ahead on Sunday? I hope so would be good to see two games in two days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 19, 2016, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 18, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Will the Loughiel v Cushendal game go ahead on Sunday? I hope so would be good to see two games in two days.

Where are you getting the first good game from Hurlingstick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2016, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 18, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Will the Loughiel v Cushendal game go ahead on Sunday? I hope so would be good to see two games in two days.

Where are you getting the first good game from Hurlingstick?

Antrim v Down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 19, 2016, 09:21:18 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2016, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2016, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 18, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Will the Loughiel v Cushendal game go ahead on Sunday? I hope so would be good to see two games in two days.

Where are you getting the first good game from Hurlingstick?

Antrim v Down?

::) ;D

He is optimistic to say the least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 19, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2016, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 18, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Will the Loughiel v Cushendal game go ahead on Sunday? I hope so would be good to see two games in two days.

Where are you getting the first good game from Hurlingstick?

I didn't say two good games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 21, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
Keep her lit now!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 21, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
Great comeback.....exciting game.....well done Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2016, 05:53:07 PM
That was hard hitting
And down didn't give went they went behind
Well done to the lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 21, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
Antrim were brutal first half. Big second half performances from Mc Crory, Mc Faddan and Mc Kenna. Clarke hit some nice long range frees and a couple of nice points from play as well. Some of Antrim backs really need to learn to mark a man. If you want to get on the ball but never want to tackle try basketball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 21, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Good hard win today. Well done. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the waffler on May 21, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Was a good game today but lads it will be a long time before Antrim will be up with the big guns
What yaw think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 21, 2016, 07:51:54 PM
Who was the second sub came on at half time into mid field? Seemed to have a bit of fire in him which is missing in a lot of places.

Well done to the team on the win,and thank god for Clarkey

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: the waffler on May 21, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Was a good game today but lads it will be a long time before Antrim will be up with the big guns
What yaw think

We never where up with the big guns that much so that's irrelevant
This is our level
Down played really well today and we still got the win
Good day at the office in my view
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 21, 2016, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
Quote from: the waffler on May 21, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Was a good game today but lads it will be a long time before Antrim will be up with the big guns
What yaw think

We never where up with the big guns that much so that's irrelevant
This is our level
Down played really well today and we still got the win
Good day at the office in my view

Maybe so but wasn't that long ago that we were at least competitive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 22, 2016, 12:04:49 AM
On a consistent basis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on May 22, 2016, 04:46:41 PM
Just home from Glenariffe v Clooney Gaels match in Div 2. Good game of hurling, some nice scores taken, but it all kicked off at the full time whistle. Pure 40 man brawl, with players, mentors, subs and suspended players all in fighting. People hit with hurls, punched etc. Was not a great advert for hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 22, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
On way home from Thurles. But of an anti-climax. Any games in Belfast tomorrow night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 22, 2016, 06:54:54 PM
Good win for us up at the Johnnies today with the sun splitting the stones. Could have been a different outcome but for 2 great saves by Ryan Elliott when the Johnnies were having a purple patch in the middle of the second half. We'd have taken the pressure off at that stage but for poor shooting. Recovered well and deserved the points in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on May 22, 2016, 11:46:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 22, 2016, 06:54:54 PM
Good win for us up at the Johnnies today with the sun splitting the stones. Could have been a different outcome but for 2 great saves by Ryan Elliott when the Johnnies were having a purple patch in the middle of the second half. We'd have taken the pressure off at that stage but for poor shooting. Recovered well and deserved the points in the end.
Dunloy deserved their win and it will be interesting to see what they can deliver with the momentum they have at the minute. Really important saves at key times by their young keeper. St. John's are not looking like a team that's going anywhere fast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2016, 09:28:03 AM
Thought we played well yday but more so in patches. Let St Johns players have too much space at times but i do feel that the johnies lads over play the ball at times with the short game. A lot of tidy players but tend to over work the ball when in scorable positions.
Young Ryan Elliott pulled off two great saves that kept our lead intact. Not bad for a lad just out of the minors and he looks like he will be hanging onto that keeper shirt at this rate. Long time since we have won 5 games in a row. Nice to see but its only league games, August is when it really matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2016, 10:10:02 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Don't think the ref was one sided at all but there was two soft ones near the end
Downs discipline was brutal
Bit of happy slapping and pulling antrim players to the ground
If I was honest I would so they played the better hurling but the free count was self inflicted and lost them the game
I was impressed with down in every other way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 23, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?
Been down the road a lot with work - good for getting to a range of evening Club games or Thurles - but I'm not seeing any local stuff.
Dunloy sound like they are putting a push in - I'm wary of teams hitting form too early for championship however maybe this Dunloy team need that for confidence on bigger days.
All quiet from the Dall and the Shamrocks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2016, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 23, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?
Been down the road a lot with work - good for getting to a range of evening Club games or Thurles - but I'm not seeing any local stuff.
Dunloy sound like they are putting a push in - I'm wary of teams hitting form too early for championship however maybe this Dunloy team need that for confidence on bigger days.
All quiet from the Dall and the Shamrocks?

Dall & Shams wasn't played due to weather, refixed for Wednesday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 23, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?
Been down the road a lot with work - good for getting to a range of evening Club games or Thurles - but I'm not seeing any local stuff.
Dunloy sound like they are putting a push in - I'm wary of teams hitting form too early for championship however maybe this Dunloy team need that for confidence on bigger days.
All quiet from the Dall and the Shamrocks?

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?

Wednesday night in the sunny Ards peninsula...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 23, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2016, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 23, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?
Been down the road a lot with work - good for getting to a range of evening Club games or Thurles - but I'm not seeing any local stuff.
Dunloy sound like they are putting a push in - I'm wary of teams hitting form too early for championship however maybe this Dunloy team need that for confidence on bigger days.
All quiet from the Dall and the Shamrocks?

Dall & Shams wasn't played due to weather, refixed for Wednesday night.
Needed waders to play it from some of the photos of the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 23, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2016, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 23, 2016, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: optimus cheese on May 22, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Late to the party but great win for Antrim yesterday. Had to balls it out and did that. Hopefully a corner turned

A few of our lads who were playing were giving off about the referee giving a few 'hometown' decisions when the game was in the mix. Some lad from Carlow not on their christmas card list it seems.

TBH This is not a good Down team and to take Antrim to their collar probably says a lot about where Antrim are at the minute rather than this improving Down team who're still very young in a lot of key positions.

We'd the biddies down with us yesterday, players had to be taken off the field due to thunder and lightning, rightly so IMO. We won handy enough although not as easy as the scoreline suggests.

St Galls up next and that'll be the sternest test we've faced I'd presume.

Galls V Galget would be a good tussle! That game in Belfast JC? When?
Been down the road a lot with work - good for getting to a range of evening Club games or Thurles - but I'm not seeing any local stuff.
Dunloy sound like they are putting a push in - I'm wary of teams hitting form too early for championship however maybe this Dunloy team need that for confidence on bigger days.
All quiet from the Dall and the Shamrocks?

Dall & Shams wasn't played due to weather, refixed for Wednesday night.
Needed waders to play it from some of the photos of the pitch.

Ulster council were offering €400 grants for verti-draining a month back, albeit very short notice, but they need to do it more often and maybe up the €400 bit!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2016, 04:06:38 PM
400 would do next to nothing in terms of ground work. add another 0 and double it and that will cover half a pitch!

I know theres talk of us draining the top half of the pitch, much similar to that what was done over the winter to the bottom half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2016, 04:06:38 PM
400 would do next to nothing in terms of ground work. add another 0 and double it and that will cover half a pitch!

I know theres talk of us draining the top half of the pitch, much similar to that what was done over the winter to the bottom half.

Verti draining is glorified spiking and sanding which we got quoted approximately £1.5K to get done on our pitch.

Proper digging up and re-draining is big bucks!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2016, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2016, 04:06:38 PM
400 would do next to nothing in terms of ground work. add another 0 and double it and that will cover half a pitch!

I know theres talk of us draining the top half of the pitch, much similar to that what was done over the winter to the bottom half.

Verti draining is glorified spiking and sanding which we got quoted approximately £1.5K to get done on our pitch.

Proper digging up and re-draining is big bucks!

Yeah spot on JC. its a lot of money needed to do the real ground works, money that clubs just dont have to do the work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
From a very high level viewpoint I think your man Paul Scott called it right last night. Casement will only go ahead if they reduce the capacity to 15K or bulldoze some houses. That's it in a nutshell really. Feel a bit sorry for him I have to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
From a very high level viewpoint I think your man Paul Scott called it right last night. Casement will only go ahead if they reduce the capacity to 15K or bulldoze some houses. That's it in a nutshell really. Feel a bit sorry for him I have to say.

Well that's it in a nutshell yes - it's as simple as that - and always has been.
Although don't have too much sympathy for Scott - he's won't go short of a job or a few quid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
From a very high level viewpoint I think your man Paul Scott called it right last night. Casement will only go ahead if they reduce the capacity to 15K or bulldoze some houses. That's it in a nutshell really. Feel a bit sorry for him I have to say.

Well that's it in a nutshell yes - it's as simple as that - and always has been.
Although don't have too much sympathy for Scott - he's won't go short of a job or a few quid.

I'm not big into my politics but your SF woman Carol came across as a big bully! Is this the way she conducts her business?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
From a very high level viewpoint I think your man Paul Scott called it right last night. Casement will only go ahead if they reduce the capacity to 15K or bulldoze some houses. That's it in a nutshell really. Feel a bit sorry for him I have to say.

Well that's it in a nutshell yes - it's as simple as that - and always has been.
Although don't have too much sympathy for Scott - he's won't go short of a job or a few quid.

I'm not big into my politics but your SF woman Carol came across as a big bully! Is this the way she conducts her business?

I think when you dont have much of a clue about things, this maybe the way some people cope, like a defence mechanism.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
as much as i want casement built i totally got the view point of the health and safety. We cant get 38k people out of that area safely plain and simple. It cant be done.

The GAA are being niece if they just assume it will work. The purchasing of houses is actually a good idea but its one that wont work unless the people are consulted and want it to work. Clearly there is no desire from the local residents to do so. I dont blame them either for not wanting to move.

Where Casement is sited suited all them years ago. There was no motorway and build up of structures that exists in the modern west Belfast. Casement park simply put doesn't fit for what the GAA want to build. Its the age old phrase of trying to cram a square into a circle.

Theres two ways to deal with it - 1/build a smaller stadium & 2/move to another site and build the bigger stadium.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2016, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
From a very high level viewpoint I think your man Paul Scott called it right last night. Casement will only go ahead if they reduce the capacity to 15K or bulldoze some houses. That's it in a nutshell really. Feel a bit sorry for him I have to say.

Well that's it in a nutshell yes - it's as simple as that - and always has been.
Although don't have too much sympathy for Scott - he's won't go short of a job or a few quid.

I'm not big into my politics but your SF woman Carol came across as a big bully! Is this the way she conducts her business?

I think when you dont have much of a clue about things, this maybe the way some people cope, like a defence mechanism.

Been told that myself from people who work in her dept. She hasnt a clue about the GAA nor any interest in it. I have no faith in her whatsoever to deliver so much as the post let alone a multi million pound stadium.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 02:47:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 25, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
as much as i want casement built i totally got the view point of the health and safety. We cant get 38k people out of that area safely plain and simple. It cant be done.

The GAA are being niece if they just assume it will work. The purchasing of houses is actually a good idea but its one that wont work unless the people are consulted and want it to work. Clearly there is no desire from the local residents to do so. I dont blame them either for not wanting to move.

Where Casement is sited suited all them years ago. There was no motorway and build up of structures that exists in the modern west Belfast. Casement park simply put doesn't fit for what the GAA want to build. Its the age old phrase of trying to cram a square into a circle.

Theres two ways to deal with it - 1/build a smaller stadium & 2/move to another site and build the bigger stadium.

Yes I don't know why people think the scenario is a complicated one.
Built a small stadium - or buy houses if you want a bigger one.
Another location is a non-runner.
Government money and infrastructure dictate Belfast - along with the connotations of leaving a large city without a central GAA presence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 25, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

You said that like that was a truth and the only truth in this sorry poorly handled drama.

Just lower the blades on those who have a justified right to be miffed at how theyve been treated by those that want what they want regardless whether there are serious negative affects on others to be considered or not. 

From the 'get her built gang' JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2016, 02:55:05 PM
Is Carol out of a job in the new NI exec?

Maybe Nelson McCausland will get the job done!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 02:55:26 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

Not even going to get into your second point JJ but even the first one was a face palm moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?
Delusional.

There may be people in the area around casement that are willing and want to move away from there. The project should have a fund to buy the houses at a very high price to help the people make their minds up. Its a bit like the way farmers are financed for land when a motorway is built through their land. At the end of the day maybe none of the residents will move no matter what the case but they need to be made a very handsome offer for their properties. I'd rather the GAA/project team just came out and said, look we need to buy up x houses around the stadium before we can proceed any further. Instead we're just going round in circles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?
Delusional.

There may be people in the area around casement that are willing and want to move away from there. The project should have a fund to buy the houses at a very high price to help the people make their minds up. Its a bit like the way farmers are financed for land when a motorway is built through their land. At the end of the day maybe none of the residents will move no matter what the case but they need to be made a very handsome offer for their properties. I'd rather the GAA/project team just came out and said, look we need to buy up x houses around the stadium before we can proceed any further. Instead we're just going round in circles.

cfclg have you ever heard of a land grab for public projects?

Unless you have agreement from all home owners, which was clear from even last nights woeful programme there isnt, then it would be pretty much impossible to even have this as a viable option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?
Delusional.

There may be people in the area around casement that are willing and want to move away from there. The project should have a fund to buy the houses at a very high price to help the people make their minds up. Its a bit like the way farmers are financed for land when a motorway is built through their land. At the end of the day maybe none of the residents will move no matter what the case but they need to be made a very handsome offer for their properties. I'd rather the GAA/project team just came out and said, look we need to buy up x houses around the stadium before we can proceed any further. Instead we're just going round in circles.

cfclg have you ever heard of a land grab for public projects?

Unless you have agreement from all home owners, which was clear from even last nights woeful programme there isnt, then it would be pretty much impossible to even have this as a viable option.

NAG, haven't heard of a land grab.

In theory can the residents just be put out of their homes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?
Delusional.

There may be people in the area around casement that are willing and want to move away from there. The project should have a fund to buy the houses at a very high price to help the people make their minds up. Its a bit like the way farmers are financed for land when a motorway is built through their land. At the end of the day maybe none of the residents will move no matter what the case but they need to be made a very handsome offer for their properties. I'd rather the GAA/project team just came out and said, look we need to buy up x houses around the stadium before we can proceed any further. Instead we're just going round in circles.

cfclg have you ever heard of a land grab for public projects?

Unless you have agreement from all home owners, which was clear from even last nights woeful programme there isnt, then it would be pretty much impossible to even have this as a viable option.

NAG, haven't heard of a land grab.

In theory can the residents just be put out of their homes?

If it is a public project they could be technically, but it is not a public project now.
My point is that if the Government wanted land to build a motorway it wouldnt matter what the farmer wanted for his land he would be paid the flat rate.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2016, 03:50:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?
Delusional.

There may be people in the area around casement that are willing and want to move away from there. The project should have a fund to buy the houses at a very high price to help the people make their minds up. Its a bit like the way farmers are financed for land when a motorway is built through their land. At the end of the day maybe none of the residents will move no matter what the case but they need to be made a very handsome offer for their properties. I'd rather the GAA/project team just came out and said, look we need to buy up x houses around the stadium before we can proceed any further. Instead we're just going round in circles.

cfclg have you ever heard of a land grab for public projects?

Unless you have agreement from all home owners, which was clear from even last nights woeful programme there isnt, then it would be pretty much impossible to even have this as a viable option.

NAG, haven't heard of a land grab.

In theory can the residents just be put out of their homes?

If it is a public project they could be technically, but it is not a public project now.
My point is that if the Government wanted land to build a motorway it wouldnt matter what the farmer wanted for his land he would be paid the flat rate.

If the GAA were to go down the route of Compulsory purchase orders, which I think they can't then it would be bad work and something no one in the GAA should even associate themselves with.

Plan B is what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 25, 2016, 04:22:15 PM
Shams V the Dall on tonight?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 05:10:55 PM
Last I heard it's still on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2016, 05:13:15 PM
7.30 over in lgiel

Ive a free evening so this will do the job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 25, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
Unfortunately the handbrake wants to go to IKEA....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

The minister was no more responsible for the building of ravenhill & Windsor than she is to be blamed on casement.
She made it very clear at Belfast city hall that she had secured the money - and the rest was a GAA problem.
And in that she was entirely correct.

I wouldn't let her appearance of heavy north Belfast accent influence your judgement of her role - she did her bit - the GAA did not.

As for the comment in the residents - I thought we had long passed the notion that they are money grabbers? No evidence supports this. The residents are if anything victims of our GAA officials (pardon the pun) bull-dozing through planning procedures.
If they take a big price for their house - so be it. They don't have to and have indicated they are in favour of a smaller stadium and no house sale. That would make them pretty bad at money grabbing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

The minister was no more responsible for the building of ravenhill & Windsor than she is to be blamed on casement.
She made it very clear at Belfast city hall that she had secured the money - and the rest was a GAA problem.
And in that she was entirely correct.

I wouldn't let her appearance of heavy north Belfast accent influence your judgement of her role - she did her bit - the GAA did not.

As for the comment in the residents - I thought we had long passed the notion that they are money grabbers? No evidence supports this. The residents are if anything victims of our GAA officials (pardon the pun) bull-dozing through planning procedures.
If they take a big price for their house - so be it. They don't have to and have indicated they are in favour of a smaller stadium and no house sale. That would make them pretty bad at money grabbing.

Btdtgtt

Was it not Nelson who secured the money for all three stadiums?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

The minister was no more responsible for the building of ravenhill & Windsor than she is to be blamed on casement.
She made it very clear at Belfast city hall that she had secured the money - and the rest was a GAA problem.
And in that she was entirely correct.

I wouldn't let her appearance of heavy north Belfast accent influence your judgement of her role - she did her bit - the GAA did not.

As for the comment in the residents - I thought we had long passed the notion that they are money grabbers? No evidence supports this. The residents are if anything victims of our GAA officials (pardon the pun) bull-dozing through planning procedures.
If they take a big price for their house - so be it. They don't have to and have indicated they are in favour of a smaller stadium and no house sale. That would make them pretty bad at money grabbing.

Btdtgtt

Was it not Nelson who secured the money for all three stadiums?

Unsurprisingly the entire executive claimed credit. Nelson tried to pull the rug from the casement money claiming it had "expired". Ni chuilin succeeded in securing it beyond the initial timescale.
All not really my point - what I mean is that she is not [solely] responsible for casement being the disgrace it is. Her handling of the Scott / safety affair is there for criticism - but our own officials need to shoulder the blame on the was the Ulster rugby & IFA showed how it could be done with their stadia.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

The minister was no more responsible for the building of ravenhill & Windsor than she is to be blamed on casement.
She made it very clear at Belfast city hall that she had secured the money - and the rest was a GAA problem.
And in that she was entirely correct.

I wouldn't let her appearance of heavy north Belfast accent influence your judgement of her role - she did her bit - the GAA did not.

As for the comment in the residents - I thought we had long passed the notion that they are money grabbers? No evidence supports this. The residents are if anything victims of our GAA officials (pardon the pun) bull-dozing through planning procedures.
If they take a big price for their house - so be it. They don't have to and have indicated they are in favour of a smaller stadium and no house sale. That would make them pretty bad at money grabbing.

Btdtgtt

Was it not Nelson who secured the money for all three stadiums?

Unsurprisingly the entire executive claimed credit. Nelson tried to pull the rug from the casement money claiming it had "expired". Ni chuilin succeeded in securing it beyond the initial timescale.
All not really my point - what I mean is that she is not responsible for casement being the disgrace it is.

I think you will find if you look into it that she is at the core of the whole debacle but sure she has no input to it now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
In fairness to her she made a superb job of redeveloping Ravenhill and Windsor Park into top class modern stadiums. Maybe they didn't have neighbours who viewed stadium redevelopment as a way to line their pockets?

The minister was no more responsible for the building of ravenhill & Windsor than she is to be blamed on casement.
She made it very clear at Belfast city hall that she had secured the money - and the rest was a GAA problem.
And in that she was entirely correct.

I wouldn't let her appearance of heavy north Belfast accent influence your judgement of her role - she did her bit - the GAA did not.

As for the comment in the residents - I thought we had long passed the notion that they are money grabbers? No evidence supports this. The residents are if anything victims of our GAA officials (pardon the pun) bull-dozing through planning procedures.
If they take a big price for their house - so be it. They don't have to and have indicated they are in favour of a smaller stadium and no house sale. That would make them pretty bad at money grabbing.

Btdtgtt

Was it not Nelson who secured the money for all three stadiums?

Unsurprisingly the entire executive claimed credit. Nelson tried to pull the rug from the casement money claiming it had "expired". Ni chuilin succeeded in securing it beyond the initial timescale.
All not really my point - what I mean is that she is not responsible for casement being the disgrace it is.

I think you will find if you look into it that she is at the core of the whole debacle but sure she has no input to it now.
Slight edit to my original there NAG.
I would beg to differ that she's the core problem - I attended a meeting at city hall when every GAA club & stakeholder in attendance would concede otherwise.
Her removal is due to ministerial changes - but yes political expediency all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
Easy to take credit for things when you are preaching to the choir.

She was out of her depth and was found out even in the show last night look at her performance.

Neither here nor there now I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on May 25, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Who is the new minister for sport?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 25, 2016, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 25, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Who is the new minister for sport?

DCAL doesent exist anymore, the "sport" bit of it is now dealt with by Department For Communites with Paul Givan DUP as new Minister
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on May 25, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
Will chris hazard / infrastructure,  be overseeing developments at casement then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 25, 2016, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2016, 10:07:40 PM
So the Paul Scott STG stuff, she performed outstandingly? She made a wonderful impression on the residents at the meetings she attended? She wasn't at the core of the "build it and fcuk the rules" brigade who tried (and actually succeeded for a while) to get a stadium passed despite serious safety concerns?
She just got them the money and had nothing else to do with it?

Aye, fcukin dead on.

I said the safety stuff was on her head - that's public record. I didn't say she performed outstandingly nor make any reference to a wonderful impression on residents.
The "core" of the build it and f**k the rules was the GAA for me - not the minister.
Nor did I say she got them the money.
But the errors in size and scope of the stadium lie totally with the GAA. The minister (any minister) couldn't give a toss if it 25k or 65k. But the GAA did.
You've gone off on one HS and read into things I didn't write.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 08:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most

A very hardy man was hit at speed last night and lay on the pitch for a full five minutes. Are you telling me two men running at speed at one another and one of them taking the hit directly in the centre of the chest hasn't the potential to cause serious injury or more?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 26, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 08:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most

A very hardy man was hit at speed last night and lay on the pitch for a full five minutes. Are you telling me two men running at speed at one another and one of them taking the hit directly in the centre of the chest hasn't the potential to cause serious injury or more?

I agree. If the perpetrator had the balls to stand square on then there's an element of self sacrafice but turning the shoulder in is weak. We are into concussion territory here and we don't need it in the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 09:21:04 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 26, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 08:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most

A very hardy man was hit at speed last night and lay on the pitch for a full five minutes. Are you telling me two men running at speed at one another and one of them taking the hit directly in the centre of the chest hasn't the potential to cause serious injury or more?

I agree. If the perpetrator had the balls to stand square on then there's an element of self sacrafice but turning the shoulder in is weak. We are into concussion territory here and we don't need it in the game

Agreed ....my fear would be an injury to the sternum in turn impacting on the heart. Ryan McCambridge is as tough as they come and it was worrying last night seeing him crumpled like that. That tackle was from one of the smallest players on the pitch. Imagine it came from a 14 stone man??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2016, 09:25:15 AM
i rem Paudie mc mullan taking a direct shoulder to the chest again cdall one day in Dunloy. He didnt get up for over 5 mins and and didnt play much after that for a long time. left him in bad shape for a while.

Its disgusting cowardly tackle on someone whos eye is on the ball while the person doing it has one intention and its to hit the person as hard as they can. I rephrase that, its not a tackle at all.

A lot of the time its accidental and a mistimed shoulder to shoulder but that one instance it happens can leave a player in bad shape.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2016, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 25, 2016, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 25, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Who is the new minister for sport?

DCAL doesent exist anymore, the "sport" bit of it is now dealt with by Department For Communites with Paul Givan DUP as new Minister

Better hope that no LGBT members want to use it or that bible thumper will def block it! lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 26, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most

I know a lad that will disagree with you. He lay in hospital for a week after taking a shoulder to the chest.

so maybe we all should get a fecking grip...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 26, 2016, 09:33:20 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 26, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 08:53:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 25, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
That was an entertaining game at Loughiel tonight. Shamrocks looked like a different team from 2 weeks ago against Dunloy. Some big hits and plenty of off the ball stuff. Mark had his hands full. Shoulder to the chest needs outlawed immediately before someone is badly hurt/killed. Benny McCarry back and slowly getting his eye back in he scored a few beauts...class act.

Killed?  seriously get a fecking grip... the tackle is a foul if there is intent its a yellow at most

A very hardy man was hit at speed last night and lay on the pitch for a full five minutes. Are you telling me two men running at speed at one another and one of them taking the hit directly in the centre of the chest hasn't the potential to cause serious injury or more?

I agree. If the perpetrator had the balls to stand square on then there's an element of self sacrafice but turning the shoulder in is weak. We are into concussion territory here and we don't need it in the game

four years ago i broke 2 ribs in this type of challange, albeit it was football it was the same challange. while kicking the ball with my body left exposed a lad sailed in with the shoulder breaking two of my ribs. maybe not the most serious of injuries but all the same if in turn a lung gets punctured or heart damaged then your into a whole different ball game.

i agree that if the challange like this is deemed dileberate and and its not an attempt to play the ball but just the man with a cheap shot then it should be a red card as i have no doubt hitting a man ad pace with the shoulder to the chest is trying to do damage. its a cheap shot when its either not necessary to make the tackle as the ball is usually away  or an attempt at self peservation as somtimes the guy with the ball has the momentum. in the second instance i would not be handing out reds. but as i said when deemed dileberate its a challange designed to do damage and i agree it can be very dangerous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 26, 2016, 09:33:52 AM
Totally agree DR, it is a tackle that could and has seriously injured a few people i know including Paudie.

A bit shocked but not surprised by our resident referees view on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 26, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
It also happened to an ex St. John's man who was also a well none PE teacher. Punctured an artery if memory serves me well and doctors told him he was lucky to be alive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 26, 2016, 09:40:17 AM
Lads

Its the same as everything else in the game, if a lad sets out to hurt another player there are a number of ways this can be done.

The ref is there to determine what is a foul, what is deliberate and what is mistimed. This is where it takes a decent ref to know the difference in a player who has lined someone up and done it deliberately and one that has slightly mistimed a genuine attempt at a tackle.

It is all about the intent of the tackler, the same as a lot of facets of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dualta Duane on May 26, 2016, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 26, 2016, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 25, 2016, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 25, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Who is the new minister for sport?

DCAL doesent exist anymore, the "sport" bit of it is now dealt with by Department For Communites with Paul Givan DUP as new Minister

Better hope that no LGBT members want to use it or that bible thumper will def block it! lol

no need to bring in the LGBT and bible thumping now... he's only in post. surely he's there for everyone  :-\ although i doubt it. I can see it already 'the Ashers Bakery Stadium' lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 26, 2016, 10:19:40 AM
Do you know what I really don't understand about Casement. Why do the GAA think they need this massive stadium??? I am envious of what Ulster rugby have, its perfect in every way (size/cost/layout). Why would our amateur association think we need something bigger than what a slick professional organisation like Ulster rugby require??

Even if we had the same setup as Ulster rugby it would rarely be filled to capacity anyway. No need for this 38K seater monstrosity that our average club player will never play in anymore because it costs too much to open the gates for a county final when 1K people show up!

GAA need to catch themselves on to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 26, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
Quote from: cfclg on May 26, 2016, 10:19:40 AM
Do you know what I really don't understand about Casement. Why do the GAA think they need this massive stadium??? I am envious of what Ulster rugby have, its perfect in every way (size/cost/layout). Why would our amateur association think we need something bigger than what a slick professional organisation like Ulster rugby require??

Even if we had the same setup as Ulster rugby it would rarely be filled to capacity anyway. No need for this 38K seater monstrosity that our average club player will never play in anymore because it costs too much to open the gates for a county final when 1K people show up!

GAA need to catch themselves on to be honest.

Valid points.
Ulster GAA say it has to be big enough to host provincial final and all-Ireland quarter finals perhaps.
But as you say, this leaves it with a terrible atmosphere for 99% of other games!
Although as a "provincial" ground rather that our county ground don't expect it will be used much anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Thats one of my fears about Casement that it will be place that we will get into once a year for a club fixture. the rest of the year it will house a handful of people for national league fixtures and these qualifier games they are talking about.

What we do need in antrim is a decent second ground. I mean no disrespect to Corrigan or Ballycastle but they are club grounds and not a county ground. No seats or shelter from the elements in both grounds makes it a tough place to stand on a cold wet day.

Lets be honest, none of our grounds are what be described as a county ground. Armagh, Tyrone, Derry, Down etc all have good back up grounds that have a stand and good facilities for a match. Its something that we need to be focusing on as well.

Dunsilly is on going, casement is out of our hands and after next sats Christy Ring final and our exit from the football qualifiers our seasons over. We should be looking farther down the line, not just this year but 5 years down the line and get the ball rolling and be pro-active rather that re-active to situations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 26, 2016, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Your fears aren't as bad as mine. I fear we won't have a single club game in the new stadium. I also fear that our county team will only get to play championship games in it with NL games as you were with 300 people at them.

Are these fears not allayed at the public consultations or are they only looking for people to come along and say #letsbuildcasement?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Your fears aren't as bad as mine. I fear we won't have a single club game in the new stadium. I also fear that our county team will only get to play championship games in it with NL games as you were with 300 people at them.

I think that your not far off the mark there HS. All the talk i ever hear is about big games, qualifiers, concerts etc. etc. Nothing about Antrim GAA and what it will do for us and our local game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on May 26, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 26, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Your fears aren't as bad as mine. I fear we won't have a single club game in the new stadium. I also fear that our county team will only get to play championship games in it with NL games as you were with 300 people at them.

I think that your not far off the mark there HS. All the talk i ever hear is about big games, qualifiers, concerts etc. etc. Nothing about Antrim GAA and what it will do for us and our local game.

You used to get some buzz playing school's finals and the odd championship match in casement (I remember some quarter finals and semis being played there, even in intermediate and junior). Unfortunately those days will be over. I suppose they have been over for a while now!!

£6M spent already, its just embarrassing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 26, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 26, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Your fears aren't as bad as mine. I fear we won't have a single club game in the new stadium. I also fear that our county team will only get to play championship games in it with NL games as you were with 300 people at them.

I think that your not far off the mark there HS. All the talk i ever hear is about big games, qualifiers, concerts etc. etc. Nothing about Antrim GAA and what it will do for us and our local game.

Ive said this from the very start, the Old Casement held school blitzes,underage South antrim and county finals, club chamopioship games(senior, Intermediate and Junior), county training, NHL/NFL games, MCKenna Cup games, Walsh Cup games and County championship games with and without Antrim. The New Casement with a (how much it costs to open the ground) business case i fear will host Ulster Football championship games if we get a home draw, a few big qualifer games and for the first year or so the odd (look at us get the media in) school blitz and underage club championship final. after that it will be Conferences, conterts and 3 /4 big games max a year. i hope im wrong and its only my opinion but its a real gut feeling of mine that the men and women of antrim will be tourists in their own home after the dust settles and the photoshoots are done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 26, 2016, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: cfclg on May 26, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 26, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 26, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Your fears aren't as bad as mine. I fear we won't have a single club game in the new stadium. I also fear that our county team will only get to play championship games in it with NL games as you were with 300 people at them.

I think that your not far off the mark there HS. All the talk i ever hear is about big games, qualifiers, concerts etc. etc. Nothing about Antrim GAA and what it will do for us and our local game.

you stole my thunder lol, it takes me too long to type

You used to get some buzz playing school's finals and the odd championship match in casement (I remember some quarter finals and semis being played there, even in intermediate and junior). Unfortunately those days will be over. I suppose they have been over for a while now!!

£6M spent already, its just embarrassing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 26, 2016, 02:28:17 PM
Not one flyin do the people making money give about the end result.

Money IS being made
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 26, 2016, 09:33:52 AM
Totally agree DR, it is a tackle that could and has seriously injured a few people i know including Paudie.

A bit shocked but not surprised by our resident referees view on it.

I've yet to hear a manager of  an opposing team say yeah ref send our boy off!! Deliberate and dangerous its a red card...happens when accidental then yellow..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 07:49:08 AM
Only ever played in casement at u16 in a football tournament though trained there a few times. This was a small tournament without big clubs in it and it was a memory will stick with me. That kind of thing looks like it won't happen again >:(

It has become so polticial and i am not convinced anything good is coming out of it for our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 07:49:08 AM
Only ever played in casement at u16 in a football tournament though trained there a few times. This was a small tournament without big clubs in it and it was a memory will stick with me. That kind of thing looks like it won't happen again >:(

It has become so polticial and i am not convinced anything good is coming out of it for our county.

So why are we being harangued into supporting this, when no one seems to want to answer the questions that are vital to us as club members within Antrim county.

Is it still going to be 'our' stadium?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 09:03:17 AM
It is currently very hard to see it being "our" stadium.

Seeing photos posted on twitter every now and again is sad to be honest. Most other counties in ulster now have very well developed county grounds and we have nothing and don't really know when we will get something. It's a sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2016, 09:10:27 AM
I remember playing Sarsfields and Gort Na Mona in rin of the mill Div2 games in Casement years ago, when their grounds where getting redeveloped. Can you imagine that happening in the new place ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 09:03:17 AM
It is currently very hard to see it being "our" stadium.

Seeing photos posted on twitter every now and again is sad to be honest. Most other counties in ulster now have very well developed county grounds and we have nothing and don't really know when we will get something. It's a sad state of affairs.

Not to hammer the point to death ITG but other county grounds have their 'own' grounds, what it looks like is that we are giving up that right for a 'Provincial' one which we would have no control or say in it.

So all these twitter posts about getting it built for our kids etc etc etc simply will not happen.
schools games
clubs games
tournaments
cul camps

I think we are being lead up the garden path the more I look at this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 09:03:17 AM
It is currently very hard to see it being "our" stadium.

Seeing photos posted on twitter every now and again is sad to be honest. Most other counties in ulster now have very well developed county grounds and we have nothing and don't really know when we will get something. It's a sad state of affairs.

Not to hammer the point to death ITG but other county grounds have their 'own' grounds, what it looks like is that we are giving up that right for a 'Provincial' one which we would have no control or say in it.

So all these twitter posts about getting it built for our kids etc etc etc simply will not happen.
schools games
clubs games
tournaments
cul camps

I think we are being lead up the garden path the more I look at this.

And you'd be bang on the money with that.
There a big campaign about what the new Casement will do for the locality.
Has Croke Park done anything for the area around it?
Anyone who thinks all Antrim games will be played in Casement has their head placed firmly up their posterior - as for underage and schools games - please lets not even pretend they'll see the inside of it.
I want Casement re-developed as much as anyone - but let's be clear about what it will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

Late 80s and early 90s when we first got into division 1 there were good crowds at games. I remember good crowds at Tipp, KK, Waterford games etc. I don't mean the entire banks were full but the stand was full I think. League games there, football or hurling, this last 10 years have been more like a morgue.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2016, 12:14:15 PM
i rem going to the games in the 90's and playing the likes of Limerick, Kilkenny, Cork etc. there wasnt massive crowds at the game even then. The stand was full and part of the side terraces had a crowd but on a whole it was a poor turn out.

I dont see that changing in Div 3 of the football league or Div2 in the hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 08:55:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2016, 07:49:08 AM
Only ever played in casement at u16 in a football tournament though trained there a few times. This was a small tournament without big clubs in it and it was a memory will stick with me. That kind of thing looks like it won't happen again >:(

It has become so polticial and i am not convinced anything good is coming out of it for our county.

So why are we being harangued into supporting this, when no one seems to want to answer the questions that are vital to us as club members within Antrim county.

Is it still going to be 'our' stadium?

If you ask these questions, which i have done you are seen somehow as being a troublemaker or in some way anti casement. its still a bullying thing, if you dont put #buildcasement or shout from the rooftops GET IT BUILT then your not in the real GAA circle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 27, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
Where do you folks get the crystal balls? I'd imagine no matter what was proposed for the new stadium you find something to object too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:10:00 PM
A very well timed response there JJ. Proving Gizzy's point.  ;D

Not allowed to develop conversations which mightn't suit those who have a different agenda/want

Well I'm firmly in the #itwontsuitAntrim camp for the following reasons


Now if Ulster GAA want this, work away if it can be delivered, but I'd like Antrim to go off with their own plans to do something (with the $upport of Ulster GAA/Croke Park) to create what we need for our games to flourish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:10:00 PM
A very well timed response there JJ. Proving Gizzy's point.  ;D

Not allowed to develop conversations which mightn't suit those who have a different agenda/want

Well I'm firmly in the #itwontsuitAntrim camp for the following reasons



  • I've thought about the terrible atmosphere that there'd be for National League and Antrim Club SF/Finals and came to conclusion that I wouldn't want to watch the matches I'd want to watch in such a facility.
    I think both supporters and players alike will grow to dislike going there.
    I've thought about what we do need and have concluded that a more centralised Owenbeg sized stadium is more suitable for our needs.
    I've thought about how big stadiums are run, and the running cost arguments used not to open. No reason to think this stadium will be any different come the time
    I've thought about PR machine driving what they want and not much consideration for anyone with a different perspective and think its quite sinister. This recent consultation exercise is just a PR stunt. Fully expect the response to be akin to "The people have told us to build casement exactly how we planned to build it in the first place"
    I've thought about the money on the table to build this behemoth and can only assume GAA political influence is clouding good judgement amongst the power brokers here who should have Antrims best interest at heart

Now if Ulster GAA want this, work away if it can be delivered, but I'd like Antrim to go off with their own plans to do something (with the $upport of Ulster GAA/Croke Park) to create what we need for our games to flourish.

Not necessarily in disagreement Skull - and maybe Dunsilly will one day be that.
But the point is that the decision to separate Casement from Antrim.
Should never have happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 27, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
Where do you folks get the crystal balls? I'd imagine no matter what was proposed for the new stadium you find something to object too.

Sure just get it built then. you shouldnt need an ff'ing crystal ball but it should be in black and white what the stadium will be used for and what it wont be. and someone at the consultation should have been able to tell me the answer and not faff about if's, but's and maybe's.

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

All above are guarenteed and other dates may be negiciated on a case by case basis

Why cant somthing like this be added. i would feel far safer if there were guarentees of acitvity that WILL benifit the youth and club player were given. Not blindley following like sheep and tweeting Build Casement. i want to see casement built as much as anyone. i played on it well into the twenty odd time bracket(Mostely underage) and lived close enough to call in and practice on it before Vinty would chase you off if he was worse for where. But i want it built for all the right reasons and for that you need guarentees on paper not a Get it built and we will work it out then approach.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.

No.
Where'd u get that figure from?
Your back side obviously.
And you have neither any evidence of a stadium there for decades being "plonked" nor that a redevelopment will not have an impact. But I certainly think a waste ground or social housing - will definitely not help.
Sorry but that's an absolute nonsense post NAG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
Did we agree what 'the point' was? I missed that meeting  :o

Should never have happened and but with a mixture of PR spin, apathy, lack of due diligence it was railroaded though. The leaders of the GAA in Ulster have their agenda and thats the one everyone has followed. Ask an awkward question and you get a 'look the moneys on the table for this project and nothing else so it would be a shame if we didnt spend it, so .......?' response
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

I would HATE to watch club championship matches in a 38000 seater stadium. This is my main gripe. The lack of atmosphere will kill the occasion and in the long run the enthusiasm for our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

I would HATE to watch club championship matches in a 38000 seater stadium. This is my main gripe. The lack of atmosphere will kill the occasion and in the long run the enthusiasm for our games.

Fully agree with your point although i dont think it will be a 38,000 seater it would still be too big(for atmosphere) at 25,000+. all atmosphere aside i would still like the option rather than the gates being locked on antrim clubs. dont tell me it wouldnt be a big day for an u-12 or u-14 to run out and play a final or a blitz in such a stadium but this needs to be guarenteed. weather the stadium was ever needed and the likes is now almost irrevelant as its at the planning stage all im saying at this moment is that if/when it's built we need guarentees that its out countys stadium and owned by everyone from within antrim gaa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.

No.
Where'd u get that figure from?
Your back side obviously.
And you have neither any evidence of a stadium there for decades being "plonked" nor that a redevelopment will not have an impact. But I certainly think a waste ground or social housing - will definitely not help.
Sorry but that's an absolute nonsense post NAG.

I wasnt claiming to be totally accurate, my point being that you have a population that in the main do not come out to support the county or their own clubs in any sort of numbers. You have clubs struggling to get under age teams out even in amalgamations.

Setting a stadium in there that has no relevance to them will not change this. Yes the stadium has been there for decades and yes for decades the local population have largely ignored what happened inside the gates.

A provincial stadium does not cater for Antrim's needs. So what are the ulterior motives for building this stadium if it is not for the betterment of Antrim GAA?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

I would HATE to watch club championship matches in a 38000 seater stadium. This is my main gripe. The lack of atmosphere will kill the occasion and in the long run the enthusiasm for our games.
Clones takes around 40000? but you've played in club games (All Ireland semis) and that would be in proportion?

If like Croke park you get the chance to play at the national stadium you'll do it because its not every weekend that'll you'll get that opportunity ... the numbers not making it great atmosphere is irrelevant I think (well I think so)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 04:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

I would HATE to watch club championship matches in a 38000 seater stadium. This is my main gripe. The lack of atmosphere will kill the occasion and in the long run the enthusiasm for our games.
Clones takes around 40000? but you've played in club games (All Ireland semis) and that would be in proportion?

If like Croke park you get the chance to play at the national stadium you'll do it because its not every weekend that'll you'll get that opportunity ... the numbers not making it great atmosphere is irrelevant I think (well I think so)

::) comparing apples with onions MR. Casement as it was was close to the same capacity. And if truth be told it was too big and the stand too far away from the action. I didn't really like it for atmosphere

One off occasions can indeed suspend the reality, but with a clear perspective a 38K seater statium to house 3-5K support will always be a hollow empty experience for all involved

The Christy Ring and Nicky Rackard finals will be a perfect example of this. There'll be no atmosphere to savour at these games but this is what we can expect in a new Casement park every August/September
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 05:04:02 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 04:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 27, 2016, 01:13:12 PM

There will be a Min of 20 Days dedicated to school blitzes
20 free weekends free for club championship games (no more than 2 adult games in one day)
12 coaching/ fun days (one per month)
10 free Sundays for underage county finals
5 Concerts (Max)

I would HATE to watch club championship matches in a 38000 seater stadium. This is my main gripe. The lack of atmosphere will kill the occasion and in the long run the enthusiasm for our games.
Clones takes around 40000? but you've played in club games (All Ireland semis) and that would be in proportion?

If like Croke park you get the chance to play at the national stadium you'll do it because its not every weekend that'll you'll get that opportunity ... the numbers not making it great atmosphere is irrelevant I think (well I think so)

::) comparing apples with onions MR. Casement as it was was close to the same capacity. And if truth be told it was too big and the stand too far away from the action. I didn't really like it for atmosphere

One off occasions can indeed suspend the reality, but with a clear perspective a 38K seater statium to house 3-5K support will always be a hollow empty experience for all involved

The Christy Ring and Nicky Rackard finals will be a perfect example of this. There'll be no atmosphere to savour at these games but this is what we can expect in a new Casement park every August/September

It's never going to compare because we don't have the fan base to back it up, it will sell out on the big games... Ulster finals and quarter finals in the football, hell it might even get a All Ireland semi final for a change .. just to generate business ... but the stadium like most stadiums will be used for concerts and conferences and other sports will be allowed to use it to generate a revenue....

I'm more for getting something like Owenbeg which hopefully, that's what will happen with Dunsilly ...

Memories of Casement have been great to me, win lose or draw...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2016, 05:04:02 PM
I'm more for getting something like Owenbeg which hopefully, that's what will happen with Dunsilly ...

Havent seen the PR company led #get_her_built campaign for that yet MR, so reading between the lines it would appear that all the eggs (in terms of playing facilitied - not training facilities) are going to stay in the one big basket on the Andytown road from an AntrimGAA perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 27, 2016, 06:47:46 PM
Belfast is the biggest city in Ulster and it is only right it gets the provincial stadium. By all means go for an Owenbeg at Dunsilly. Derry manage fine with Owenbeg and Celtic Park. I've been at lots of club finals at Croke Park with 10,000 in an 82,000 capacity stadium. Tremendous days they were for the club's involved. Why would the new Casement be any different?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 27, 2016, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 27, 2016, 06:47:46 PM
Belfast is the biggest city in Ulster and it is only right it gets the provincial stadium. By all means go for an Owenbeg at Dunsilly. Derry manage fine with Owenbeg and Celtic Park. I've been at lots of club finals at Croke Park with 10,000 in an 82,000 capacity stadium. Tremendous days they were for the club's involved. Why would the new Casement be any different?

An All Ireland Club Final is the pinnacle JJ. Were back to the suspended reality. The sense of occasion makes Croke Park thee venue and anyone going to support their team enjoys it for what it is

Antrim county finals in a fajazzled casement  ;D wont have the same 'disney land' feel in the hearts and minds of any club supporter. You know this is true dont you?

You see that point about "By all means go for an Owenbeg at Dunsilly.".......
Are you trying to imply that its separate from the discussion in relation to what suits Antrim GAA?

Finally ... in regard to Celtic park ..... I'd say if you were to get the honest truth from dyed in the wool Derry GAA men (not just the myopic wans) , they'd be shot of the place IMO .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on May 28, 2016, 01:19:59 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on May 26, 2016, 12:09:56 PM

Ive said this from the very start, the Old Casement held school blitzes,underage South antrim and county finals, club chamopioship games(senior, Intermediate and Junior), county training, NHL/NFL games, MCKenna Cup games, Walsh Cup games and County championship games with and without Antrim. The New Casement with a (how much it costs to open the ground) business case i fear will host Ulster Football championship games if we get a home draw, a few big qualifer games and for the first year or so the odd (look at us get the media in) school blitz and underage club championship final. after that it will be Conferences, conterts and 3 /4 big games max a year. i hope im wrong and its only my opinion but its a real gut feeling of mine that the men and women of antrim will be tourists in their own home after the dust settles and the photoshoots are done

Do you know any facts about how many GAA activities are regularly held in Croke ?
If you do, why do you think Casement would be any different for Ulster ?

PS. Just back from The Boss, great venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 28, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.

No.
Where'd u get that figure from?
Your back side obviously.
And you have neither any evidence of a stadium there for decades being "plonked" nor that a redevelopment will not have an impact. But I certainly think a waste ground or social housing - will definitely not help.
Sorry but that's an absolute nonsense post NAG.

I wasnt claiming to be totally accurate, my point being that you have a population that in the main do not come out to support the county or their own clubs in any sort of numbers. You have clubs struggling to get under age teams out even in amalgamations.

Setting a stadium in there that has no relevance to them will not change this. Yes the stadium has been there for decades and yes for decades the local population have largely ignored what happened inside the gates.

A provincial stadium does not cater for Antrim's needs. So what are the ulterior motives for building this stadium if it is not for the betterment of Antrim GAA?

Regardless of what figure you erroneously pluck from the air as percentage interest in Gaelic games in west Belfast - the numbers of people in the city (not to mention road network for access from Ulster) entirely justified the stadium to be in Belfast.

The point you make about Antrim rather than w provincial stadium is irrelevant - it IS a provincial stadium. It WILL be in Belfast.

If your idea is to neglect Belfast in favour of a separate more rural county stadium - I would suggest that a fair enough viewpoint. But leaving aside how long it's taken us to finance limited development there - 2 stadia so close together seems unjustifiable. And a county with as little success (&finance) as Antrim should be doing everything in our power to harness the existing numbers & potential in Belfast rather that packing up and moving to the great GAA stronghold of dunsilly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 28, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
If you want a stadium in the middle of a GAA stronghold in Antrim you may put it on top of Orra Mountain. Slap bang in the middle of Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on May 28, 2016, 08:08:49 PM
Ballygalget V St Galls abandoned with 10 mins to go on wednesday evening!!   a wee bit of a fallout ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2016, 08:15:10 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 28, 2016, 08:08:49 PM
Ballygalget V St Galls abandoned with 10 mins to go on wednesday evening!!   a wee bit of a fallout ?

Wasn't at it, heard about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 28, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
If you want a stadium in the middle of a GAA stronghold in Antrim you may put it on top of Orra Mountain. Slap bang in the middle of Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Ballycastle.
that's a nature reserve. I suggest build it on the loughgiel side. It's sunnier that side.  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2016, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.

No.
Where'd u get that figure from?
Your back side obviously.
And you have neither any evidence of a stadium there for decades being "plonked" nor that a redevelopment will not have an impact. But I certainly think a waste ground or social housing - will definitely not help.
Sorry but that's an absolute nonsense post NAG.

I wasnt claiming to be totally accurate, my point being that you have a population that in the main do not come out to support the county or their own clubs in any sort of numbers. You have clubs struggling to get under age teams out even in amalgamations.

Setting a stadium in there that has no relevance to them will not change this. Yes the stadium has been there for decades and yes for decades the local population have largely ignored what happened inside the gates.

A provincial stadium does not cater for Antrim's needs. So what are the ulterior motives for building this stadium if it is not for the betterment of Antrim GAA?

Regardless of what figure you erroneously pluck from the air as percentage interest in Gaelic games in west Belfast - the numbers of people in the city (not to mention road network for access from Ulster) entirely justified the stadium to be in Belfast.

The point you make about Antrim rather than w provincial stadium is irrelevant - it IS a provincial stadium. It WILL be in Belfast.

If your idea is to neglect Belfast in favour of a separate more rural county stadium - I would suggest that a fair enough viewpoint. But leaving aside how long it's taken us to finance limited development there - 2 stadia so close together seems unjustifiable. And a county with as little success (&finance) as Antrim should be doing everything in our power to harness the existing numbers & potential in Belfast rather that packing up and moving to the great GAA stronghold of dunsilly.

I'm not arguing for a stadium elsewhere my point is simply that the arguments being put forward for the stadium are completely flawEd now.

It is being sold now as a community facility so where is the benefit of a community facility for anyone who is not in that specific community?

Also I'm not hearing any strategies to go along side the stadium to revamp the GAA in Belfast.  We had the Belfast strategy a while back and things do not seem to have moved forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 28, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
Why the persistent attempts to ridicule JJ rather than deal with the arguments being made?

Does the PR machine not encourage debate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 28, 2016, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 28, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
If you want a stadium in the middle of a GAA stronghold in Antrim you may put it on top of Orra Mountain. Slap bang in the middle of Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Ballycastle.
that's a nature reserve. I suggest build it on the loughgiel side. It's sunnier that side.  ;D
Where would the locals go diffing if Orra Bridge was part of the new Casement?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 28, 2016, 11:19:43 PM
Ballycastle v Cushendal in U21 Championship? How come Cushendal are through? Were Ballycastle put out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 29, 2016, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 28, 2016, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 28, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 28, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
If you want a stadium in the middle of a GAA stronghold in Antrim you may put it on top of Orra Mountain. Slap bang in the middle of Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy and Ballycastle.
that's a nature reserve. I suggest build it on the loughgiel side. It's sunnier that side.  ;D
Where would the locals go diffing if Orra Bridge was part of the new Casement?
down by the high ups.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on May 29, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2016, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 28, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 27, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on May 27, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on May 27, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Championship games aside , I cannot remember a decent crowd for a county league match in Casement. The idea of playing in an empty stadium is not a new thing.

That's true - but the millions and the delays around it are very new!
For young lads, playing there was still a great carrot and attraction to GAA - we may well lost that.
Slightly insular perhaps - but Belfast needs all the help it can get with hurling (and football) and a meaningful stadium would certainly help.

Fair to say that 85% plus of West Belfast have no connection or affinity to the GAA?
Plonking a stadium in there will have limited impact on that percentage of the population.

No.
Where'd u get that figure from?
Your back side obviously.
And you have neither any evidence of a stadium there for decades being "plonked" nor that a redevelopment will not have an impact. But I certainly think a waste ground or social housing - will definitely not help.
Sorry but that's an absolute nonsense post NAG.

I wasnt claiming to be totally accurate, my point being that you have a population that in the main do not come out to support the county or their own clubs in any sort of numbers. You have clubs struggling to get under age teams out even in amalgamations.

Setting a stadium in there that has no relevance to them will not change this. Yes the stadium has been there for decades and yes for decades the local population have largely ignored what happened inside the gates.

A provincial stadium does not cater for Antrim's needs. So what are the ulterior motives for building this stadium if it is not for the betterment of Antrim GAA?

Regardless of what figure you erroneously pluck from the air as percentage interest in Gaelic games in west Belfast - the numbers of people in the city (not to mention road network for access from Ulster) entirely justified the stadium to be in Belfast.

The point you make about Antrim rather than w provincial stadium is irrelevant - it IS a provincial stadium. It WILL be in Belfast.

If your idea is to neglect Belfast in favour of a separate more rural county stadium - I would suggest that a fair enough viewpoint. But leaving aside how long it's taken us to finance limited development there - 2 stadia so close together seems unjustifiable. And a county with as little success (&finance) as Antrim should be doing everything in our power to harness the existing numbers & potential in Belfast rather that packing up and moving to the great GAA stronghold of dunsilly.

I'm not arguing for a stadium elsewhere my point is simply that the arguments being put forward for the stadium are completely flawEd now.

It is being sold now as a community facility so where is the benefit of a community facility for anyone who is not in that specific community?

Also I'm not hearing any strategies to go along side the stadium to revamp the GAA in Belfast.  We had the Belfast strategy a while back and things do not seem to have moved forward.

Understood! Yes I agree.
Also, the PR campaign is oh so Trump.
All noise and no substance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 29, 2016, 02:19:48 PM
This has turned into a Casement Park thread  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 30, 2016, 07:46:23 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on May 28, 2016, 11:19:43 PM
Ballycastle v Cushendal in U21 Championship? How come Cushendal are through? Were Ballycastle put out?

No, but i believe they should have been.

as far as i know its on next Monday evening.

As for the casement thing, i strongly believe we do not need this 38K stafium, i cant see how it will benefit Antrim Hurling one bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on May 30, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
McQuillans are out after they sent in an email to CCC saying they couldn't field during the week. It's ended up messy with no winners, pardon the pun!! The intervention of the CCC Chairman hasn't helped his reputation either him being from the Town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 30, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Hand up on May 30, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
McQuillans are out after they sent in an email to CCC saying they couldn't field during the week. It's ended up messy with no winners, pardon the pun!! The intervention of the CCC Chairman hasn't helped his reputation either him being from the Town.

Thanks for reply. It would be better if these games went ahead. I don't believe a club as big as Ballycastle couldn't field. There are always going to be times (especially at underage) where clubs are going to be missing a key player or two. But games should be played anyhow as long as they've had sufficient notice of the fixture's date.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 03, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
The lack of chat on here about our county team playing in a national final tomorrow proves to me that we still have this arrogance about us that we believe we are better than what we are and haven't come to terms that Christy Ring is our level. Waken up folks, its not 1989 anymore!!! I think we will be in for a rude awakening tomorrow afternoon against a decent Meath side.

County website has failed me again. No fancy banner when you go online to let you know about the final.

We are either really arrogant or really stupid in Antrim (or maybe both!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 03, 2016, 11:23:23 AM
Quite a leap to conclude a lack of conversation as arrogance  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 03, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
The lack of chat on here about our county team playing in a national final tomorrow proves to me that we still have this arrogance about us that we believe we are better than what we are and haven't come to terms that Christy Ring is our level. Waken up folks, its not 1989 anymore!!! I think we will be in for a rude awakening tomorrow afternoon against a decent Meath side.

County website has failed me again. No fancy banner when you go online to let you know about the final.

We are either really arrogant or really stupid in Antrim (or maybe both!).

I think the problem is we are slightly above Christy Ring standard but not near the level for competitiveness of above it. I know early results this year in the league suggest other wise but that how I see it.

Makes for a shite situation where either you should win everything and how can you get excited about something you shouldn't lose, keep in mind tomorrow for Antrim fans there is no respectable performance from tomorrow other than a win. In a way its a case of we have more to lose than to gain from tomorrow because we can only really lose credibility in our own eyes.

If we go a level up we will get drubbed, leaves us in a frustrating limbo situation.

Some of this is arrogance I suppose, I'll be cheering on the Saffs tomorrow anyway as you can only win what your in, and some silver ware should help morale.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 03, 2016, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 03, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
The lack of chat on here about our county team playing in a national final tomorrow proves to me that we still have this arrogance about us that we believe we are better than what we are and haven't come to terms that Christy Ring is our level. Waken up folks, its not 1989 anymore!!! I think we will be in for a rude awakening tomorrow afternoon against a decent Meath side.

County website has failed me again. No fancy banner when you go online to let you know about the final.

We are either really arrogant or really stupid in Antrim (or maybe both!).

I think the problem is we are slightly above Christy Ring standard but not near the level for competitiveness of above it. I know early results this year in the league suggest other wise but that how I see it.

Makes for a shite situation where either you should win everything and how can you get excited about something you shouldn't lose, keep in mind tomorrow for Antrim fans there is no respectable performance from tomorrow other than a win. In a way its a case of we have more to lose than to gain from tomorrow because we can only really lose credibility in our own eyes.

If we go a level up we will get drubbed, leaves us in a frustrating limbo situation.

Some of this is arrogance I suppose, I'll be cheering on the Saffs tomorrow anyway as you can only win what your in, and some silver ware should help morale.

Guarantees us a Leinster Quarter Final next year if I'm not mistaken. That should be our goal. Try and reach a Leinster semi final. Surely that would give us a bit of motivation. We have to beat Meath though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 03, 2016, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 03, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
The lack of chat on here about our county team playing in a national final tomorrow proves to me that we still have this arrogance about us that we believe we are better than what we are and haven't come to terms that Christy Ring is our level. Waken up folks, its not 1989 anymore!!! I think we will be in for a rude awakening tomorrow afternoon against a decent Meath side.

County website has failed me again. No fancy banner when you go online to let you know about the final.

We are either really arrogant or really stupid in Antrim (or maybe both!).

I think the problem is we are slightly above Christy Ring standard but not near the level for competitiveness of above it. I know early results this year in the league suggest other wise but that how I see it.

Makes for a shite situation where either you should win everything and how can you get excited about something you shouldn't lose, keep in mind tomorrow for Antrim fans there is no respectable performance from tomorrow other than a win. In a way its a case of we have more to lose than to gain from tomorrow because we can only really lose credibility in our own eyes.

If we go a level up we will get drubbed, leaves us in a frustrating limbo situation.

Some of this is arrogance I suppose, I'll be cheering on the Saffs tomorrow anyway as you can only win what your in, and some silver ware should help morale.

Guarantees us a Leinster Quarter Final next year if I'm not mistaken. That should be our goal. Try and reach a Leinster semi final. Surely that would give us a bit of motivation. We have to beat Meath though!

I agree we shouldn't be underestimating Meath as our wobbles at the start of the year showed, seems a bit more grit in the team since the new set-up though thankfully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
Half time. Antrim 1-10 meath 0-07.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 06:56:40 PM
2 minutes plus injury time left. Antrim 1-20  Meath 1-17
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
Goal for meath. All square
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 04, 2016, 06:58:21 PM
f**k level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 04, 2016, 06:58:43 PM
Bait
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rimbaud82 on June 04, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
f**k...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 04, 2016, 07:01:58 PM
Fair play to Meath there, hunger hanging out of them all over the pitch that second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on June 04, 2016, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 03, 2016, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 03, 2016, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: cfclg on June 03, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
The lack of chat on here about our county team playing in a national final tomorrow proves to me that we still have this arrogance about us that we believe we are better than what we are and haven't come to terms that Christy Ring is our level. Waken up folks, its not 1989 anymore!!! I think we will be in for a rude awakening tomorrow afternoon against a decent Meath side.

County website has failed me again. No fancy banner when you go online to let you know about the final.

We are either really arrogant or really stupid in Antrim (or maybe both!).

I think the problem is we are slightly above Christy Ring standard but not near the level for competitiveness of above it. I know early results this year in the league suggest other wise but that how I see it.

Makes for a shite situation where either you should win everything and how can you get excited about something you shouldn't lose, keep in mind tomorrow for Antrim fans there is no respectable performance from tomorrow other than a win. In a way its a case of we have more to lose than to gain from tomorrow because we can only really lose credibility in our own eyes.

If we go a level up we will get drubbed, leaves us in a frustrating limbo situation.

Some of this is arrogance I suppose, I'll be cheering on the Saffs tomorrow anyway as you can only win what your in, and some silver ware should help morale.

Guarantees us a Leinster Quarter Final next year if I'm not mistaken. That should be our goal. Try and reach a Leinster semi final. Surely that would give us a bit of motivation. We have to beat Meath though!

I agree we shouldn't be underestimating Meath as our wobbles at the start of the year showed, seems a bit more grit in the team since the new set-up though thankfully.

Didn't see much of that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2016, 07:03:41 PM
Embarrassing stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 04, 2016, 07:09:51 PM
One mistake after the other, this is our level
depressing 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Just read a tweet there from John Fogarty of the irish examiner saying that all the press box had the final score as a draw. Interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2016, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Just read a tweet there from John Fogarty of the irish examiner saying that all the press box had the final score as a draw. Interesting.

Was nobody on the Antrim line keeping the score ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 04, 2016, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Just read a tweet there from John Fogarty of the irish examiner saying that all the press box had the final score as a draw. Interesting.

I take it the refs book is the last word so no change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 04, 2016, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Just read a tweet there from John Fogarty of the irish examiner saying that all the press box had the final score as a draw. Interesting.

I take it the refs book is the last word so no change

I can't imagine they would have went ahead with the presentation if there was any doubt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 04, 2016, 08:13:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 04, 2016, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 07:46:23 PM
Just read a tweet there from John Fogarty of the irish examiner saying that all the press box had the final score as a draw. Interesting.

I take it the refs book is the last word so no change

I can't imagine they would have went ahead with the presentation if there was any doubt
I'd like to think so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2016, 09:34:42 PM
In the row in front of me there were Meath fans crying after the match and what appeared to be a grandfather, daughter and granddaughter kissing and hugging. It was the GAA cliché and you can guarantee the same wouldn't have been seen by Antrim fans if the result was reversed. Meath were abysmal in the first half so you have to say the result flatters Antrim. I can't think of a worse team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 04, 2016, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2016, 09:34:42 PM
In the row in front of me there were Meath fans crying after the match and what appeared to be a grandfather, daughter and granddaughter kissing and hugging. It was the GAA cliché and you can guarantee the same wouldn't have been seen by Antrim fans if the result was reversed. Meath were abysmal in the first half so you have to say the result flatters Antrim. I can't think of a worse team.

Indeed. On both points.
If anyone thinks we can advance without seriously invigorating our Club scene they have their head up their own ass - or the ass of the few involved at county level.
I bear no grudge towards any players and definitely not management on today alone - but we simply can't move on by focusing on just the county squad. The whole club scene needs massive impetus and not sacrificed at the altar of the county team. And for what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
They awarded meath a point that antrim scored in the second half. Oh dear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Let Meath keep it, Antrim were an embarrassment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 04, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Let Meath keep it, Antrim were an embarrassment
oh I agree. Best team won hands down. It's just amazing how a final in croke can be scored wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 04, 2016, 10:33:41 PM
Whoever runs that clubaontroim Twitter account should be clashed or at least have the phone taken off them. A mistake was made, Antrim lost out. Get over it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 04, 2016, 10:43:30 PM
Lets not have any excuses. Lets be man enough to accept that thats our level. We could have gotten over the line but didn't but would that have only hidden the truth of where were at. Thats not to ridicule anyone thats trying to improve our lot. It just is what it is. We showed little or no togetherness or belief in each other and invited on what came about.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 04, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 04, 2016, 10:33:41 PM
Whoever runs that clubaontroim Twitter account should be clashed or at least have the phone taken off them. A mistake was made, Antrim lost out. Get over it.

Seems like a 14 yr old is manning that account
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 04, 2016, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 04, 2016, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 04, 2016, 10:18:00 PM
Let Meath keep it, Antrim were an embarrassment
oh I agree. Best team won hands down. It's just amazing how a final in croke can be scored wrong.

Meath didn't win, the game was a draw. What a shambles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:00:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2016, 10:43:30 PM
Lets not have any excuses. Lets be man enough to accept that thats our level. We could have gotten over the line but didn't but would that have only hidden the truth of where were at. Thats not to ridicule anyone thats trying to improve our lot. It just is what it is. We showed little or no togetherness or belief in each other and invited on what came about.

Actually sums up the whole season for the county team pretty well. Promised so much ended in utter shambles.

Feel sorry for Woody Pappy and Sambo, three genuine hurling men asked to clean up a mess that wasn't their doing.

The seeds were sowen early in the year and hard to come back from the disgrace that it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 04, 2016, 11:27:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 04, 2016, 10:43:30 PM
Lets not have any excuses. Lets be man enough to accept that thats our level. We could have gotten over the line but didn't but would that have only hidden the truth of where were at. Thats not to ridicule anyone thats trying to improve our lot. It just is what it is. We showed little or no togetherness or belief in each other and invited on what came about.

Those few lines summed the whole season up for me. Well said pal.

I hope Sambo, Woody, Pappy & Neal Pedan stay on with the team. Give them a fair crack at it,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.

Genuinely think the management wouldn't have been out of place playing  ;)

No blame attached to this management for the result at all.

Look further back if you want to attach blame
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 05, 2016, 12:02:05 AM
3 great Antrim men who stepped up when we needed them most and I would back them all the way for another tenure.

But you can't look past the fact  they picked, prepared, setup and motivated this Antrim team with only one objective which was to win an All Ireland final in Croke Park against Meath and they lost.

The substitutions were shocking.

Our most dangerous forward on the day (Conor Johnston) got absolutely no service ....

The defence were commanding in the 1st half and strangers to each other in the 2nd....

This result sets us back 2 years...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2016, 12:13:20 AM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 05, 2016, 12:02:05 AM
3 great Antrim men who stepped up when we needed them most and I would back them all the way for another tenure.

But you can't look past the fact  they picked, prepared, setup and motivated this Antrim team with only one objective which was to win an All Ireland final in Croke Park against Meath and they lost.

The substitutions were shocking.

Our most dangerous forward on the day (Conor Johnston) got absolutely no service ....

The defence were commanding in the 1st half and strangers to each other in the 2nd....

This result sets us back 2 years...

Only management to blame for this result was the original one at the outset of the season. Disgrace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 05, 2016, 07:32:01 AM
I disagree
Blame donkeys years of poorly attended, poorly invested in , poorly emphasised, poorly supported, dev squad & minor preparation.

We've poor prepared our fighters for years and then pushed them into the ring only to bury their heads into their gloves when they quickly find themselves on the ropes against better prepared opponents. And then we ridicule them for their ineptness. Why the fcuk would anyone want to fight for that?

We are broken at County level and it'll take more than one or two changes to fix it IMO

And we want to build a 38K stadium to play in  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 05, 2016, 09:53:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 05, 2016, 07:32:01 AM
I disagree
Blame donkeys years of poorly attended, poorly invested in , poorly emphasised, poorly supported, dev squad & minor preparation.

We've poor prepared our fighters for years and then pushed them into the ring only to bury their heads into their gloves when they quickly find themselves on the ropes against better prepared opponents. And then we ridicule them for their ineptness. Why the fcuk would anyone want to fight for that?

We are broken at County level and it'll take more than one or two changes to fix it IMO

And we want to build a 38K stadium to play in  ???

I certainly don't compare our players to fighters - nor absolve them of blame. Poorly invested in does not cover their part in our demise.

But as I said before - for the primary issue to address this - does anyone believe we can lift our standard without a radically invigorated club scene? No. We know this issue - it's within our control - not dependent on money or anyone else - so f**kin do something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.

Genuinely think the management wouldn't have been out of place playing  ;)

No blame attached to this management for the result at all.

Look further back if you want to attach blame
ryan?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:13:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.

Genuinely think the management wouldn't have been out of place playing  ;)

No blame attached to this management for the result at all.

Look further back if you want to attach blame
ryan?  ;)
After him but before the current management, whoever that was.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:13:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.

Genuinely think the management wouldn't have been out of place playing  ;)

No blame attached to this management for the result at all.

Look further back if you want to attach blame
ryan?  ;)
After him but before the current management, whoever that was.  :-X
I personally blame mcguinness.  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:13:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 04, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
I'm sure the Antrim stats man will be able to confirm the correct score ?

If the ref recorded a score wrong and gave  an Antrim point for Meath it wasn't a draw, Antrim would have won by a point.

We lost whatever way you look at it.

The players weren't good enough to beat Meath

The management wasn't good enough to beat Meath.

Genuinely think the management wouldn't have been out of place playing  ;)

No blame attached to this management for the result at all.

Look further back if you want to attach blame
ryan?  ;)
After him but before the current management, whoever that was.  :-X

Purely talking about this season and the shambles it has been from start to finish.

Yes the players need to take responsibility on the pitch but when the leadership is as bad as it was then it poisons the whole set up.

Anyway draw a line under this season and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 05, 2016, 11:26:08 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 06, 2016, 07:48:06 AM
how can you not lay some blame on the managment?

Team selection and in particular the Subs where shocking decisions.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 09:08:41 AM
Why did Ryan McCambridge not play? Given how bad a couple of defenders were. Surely Nigel Elliott was worth a run out. If Ryan McCambridge was fully fit I'd like to know why arguably the best defender in the county was sitting on the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 06, 2016, 09:40:42 AM
I was wondering that myself, surely must of been carrying an injury?

We obviously took the foot of the pedal when it looked like we had them beat. Far too many basic errors.  The subs also weakened the team, I thought it looked like management thought we were home and dry and were giving boys a run more so than trying to improve our lot.

Nothing to be gained from a replay, promote both teams and move on I say if that's the reward for the winners.  However based on Saturdays display neither team will make much of an impact in Leinster. Imagine if we scraped through the round robin and had to play KK, Galway or Dublin?  They would blow holes in us, it would be embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 06, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
Gutted to have missed Thurles yesterday - not the classic we had hoped for bit I think Waterford showed some serious maturity as a team. Clare were never allowed to get any momentum and were stifled at every opportunity. Moran and Gleason seemed to have the match under their total control. I really think a Munster win will keep Waterford on a high to break the big barrier at Croke Park. The team seem maturing and ready to do it when it matters. I think if they can mentally get over the line versus Kilkenny they are the main contenders.

Are there any Div 1 or 2 games in Belfast midweek?
Hopefully see Club games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 06, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
Gutted to have missed Thurles yesterday - not the classic we had hoped for bit I think Waterford showed some serious maturity as a team. Clare were never allowed to get any momentum and were stifled at every opportunity. Moran and Gleason seemed to have the match under their total control. I really think a Munster win will keep Waterford on a high to break the big barrier at Croke Park. The team seem maturing and ready to do it when it matters. I think if they can mentally get over the line versus Kilkenny they are the main contenders.

Are there any Div 1 or 2 games in Belfast midweek?
Hopefully see Club games.

Clare's shooting was horrendous though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 03:35:20 PM
Just to confirm Ryan wasn't injured on Sat he's playing u21 Championship tonight for us, he's just not good enough for County Hurling according to the management!!😠
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 03:46:38 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 03:35:20 PM
Just to confirm Ryan wasn't injured on Sat he's playing u21 Championship tonight for us, he's just not good enough for County Hurling according to the management!!😠

That's ridiculous. We can't afford to leave a player like him on the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on June 06, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
My sources from cushendall tell me he is not playing well at the min.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: oisinog on June 06, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
My sources from cushendall tell me he is not playing well at the min.
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I watched their last two senior league games. Nothing wrong with how he played.]
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
He played rightly against us last week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 06, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
He played rightly against us last week.

He did indeed. Until he got hurt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 10:26:54 PM
I believe it's a personal thing against him,was told at our match tonight which he coasted through, that the management think he's too slow, crazy stuff and yep I'm biased I wish we had a few more like him in Cushendall.
On the u21 match itself it was over at half time where we had too many senior hurlers against a very young Dunloy team. They certainly have some talent and I'd say over the next 2 years will lift a title. Pad Burke was strong in no6 and up front we had goals in us from Christy and Conrad Mc Donnell( good to see him back after losing a finger from this match at home last year. Couple of our Minors did well young Ed McQuillan &  Fred McCurry.
Any word on the other matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 10:26:54 PM
I believe it's a personal thing against him,was told at our match tonight which he coasted through, that the management think he's too slow, crazy stuff and yep I'm biased I wish we had a few more like him in Cushendall.
On the u21 match itself it was over at half time where we had too many senior hurlers against a very young Dunloy team. They certainly have some talent and I'd say over the next 2 years will lift a title. Pad Burke was strong in no6 and up front we had goals in us from Christy and Conrad Mc Donnell( good to see him back after losing a finger from this match at home last year. Couple of our Minors did well young Ed McQuillan &  Fred McCurry.
Any word on the other matches?

Naomh Padraig, Loughiel and Rossa through. Cushendal away to Naomh Padraig in semi.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 10:41:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 10:26:54 PM
I believe it's a personal thing against him,was told at our match tonight which he coasted through, that the management think he's too slow, crazy stuff and yep I'm biased I wish we had a few more like him in Cushendall.
On the u21 match itself it was over at half time where we had too many senior hurlers against a very young Dunloy team. They certainly have some talent and I'd say over the next 2 years will lift a title. Pad Burke was strong in no6 and up front we had goals in us from Christy and Conrad Mc Donnell( good to see him back after losing a finger from this match at home last year. Couple of our Minors did well young Ed McQuillan &  Fred McCurry.
Any word on the other matches?

Naomh Padraig, Loughiel and Rossa through. Cushendal away to Naomh Padraig in semi.

I thought RD looked your most dangerous forward tonight. Ed McQuillan was fantastic although went out of it second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
Yeh RD finally produced a performance and it's been a long time coming hopefully he'll be a bit more consistent now, he's a nice lad with unbelievable skill but drives our supporters mad!! Naomh Padraig have a lot of good hurlers so we'll look forward to next Monday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2016, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
Yeh RD finally produced a performance and it's been a long time coming hopefully he'll be a bit more consistent now, he's a nice lad with unbelievable skill but drives our supporters mad!! Naomh Padraig have a lot of good hurlers so we'll look forward to next Monday.

Well done to cushendall
They hit us for 2 goals before we got going and fully deserved their win
Our young lads did get to grips with the game and gave as good as they got
Your number 13 looks like a real prospect
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 06, 2016, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2016, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
Yeh RD finally produced a performance and it's been a long time coming hopefully he'll be a bit more consistent now, he's a nice lad with unbelievable skill but drives our supporters mad!! Naomh Padraig have a lot of good hurlers so we'll look forward to next Monday.

Well done to cushendall
They hit us for 2 goals before we got going and fully deserved their win
Our young lads did get to grips with the game and gave as good as they got
Your number 13 looks like a real prospect

That's Ed McQuillan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 06, 2016, 11:53:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 06, 2016, 10:26:54 PM
I believe it's a personal thing against him,was told at our match tonight which he coasted through, that the management think he's too slow, crazy stuff and yep I'm biased I wish we had a few more like him in Cushendall.
On the u21 match itself it was over at half time where we had too many senior hurlers against a very young Dunloy team. They certainly have some talent and I'd say over the next 2 years will lift a title. Pad Burke was strong in no6 and up front we had goals in us from Christy and Conrad Mc Donnell( good to see him back after losing a finger from this match at home last year. Couple of our Minors did well young Ed McQuillan &  Fred McCurry.
Any word on the other matches?

Pretty much, though Id be happy with the way we kept at it, battled and took some nice scores and came away with our heads held high. Cushendall looked very seasoned and will be hard to beat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 07, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
I enjoyed the U21 match last night, some great hurlers on both teams. Thought Ryan McCambridge was the pick of the bunch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 07, 2016, 01:40:53 PM
Who is in charge of the C'Dall Un21s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 07, 2016, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 07, 2016, 01:40:53 PM
Who is in charge of the C'Dall Un21s?

I seen Karl mcKeegan on the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 07, 2016, 02:41:20 PM
Declan Bogue reporting a replay in the Christy Ring Final.

Get McManus & Graffin back home ASAP..  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 07, 2016, 03:23:46 PM
Yeah it seems official

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256338
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 07, 2016, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 07, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
I enjoyed the U21 match last night, some great hurlers on both teams. Thought Ryan McCambridge was the pick of the bunch.

Yes looked to be operating well inside his comfort zone for most of the game ...maybe smarting from sitting on the bench on Sat? Christy very dangerous. Liked the look of your no.4 who played the spare man role very well. Who is he? ***  :'(

***Clubs need to organise a way of getting a panel list (with picture) out via social media just as a game starts, so that people can get to know opposition names and faces. Being hidden behind faceguards doesn't help promote our players.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 07, 2016, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 07, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
I enjoyed the U21 match last night, some great hurlers on both teams. Thought Ryan McCambridge was the pick of the bunch.

Yes looked to be operating well inside his comfort zone for most of the game ...maybe smarting from sitting on the bench on Sat? Christy very dangerous. Liked the look of your no.4 who played the spare man role very well. Who is he? ***  :'(

***Clubs need to organise a way of getting a panel list (with picture) out via social media just as a game starts, so that people can get to know opposition names and faces. Being hidden behind faceguards doesn't help promote our players.

Wouldn't be difficult to have players given jersey numbers at start of year?? Then you'll know who's who!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
Well another big match too look forward too on Sat evening!!!
Hopefully the League matches will go ahead tomorrow night, we've had enough inactivity in May/June.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 07, 2016, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
Well another big match too look forward too on Sat evening!!!
Hopefully the League matches will go ahead tomorrow night, we've had enough inactivity in May/June.

Dunloy v Dal is off already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 07, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 07, 2016, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
Well another big match too look forward too on Sat evening!!!
Hopefully the League matches will go ahead tomorrow night, we've had enough inactivity in May/June.

Dunloy v Dal is off already

All matches off. I think it's an absolute joke that club hurlers and supporters suffer again at the whim of a county manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 07, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 07, 2016, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
Well another big match too look forward too on Sat evening!!!
Hopefully the League matches will go ahead tomorrow night, we've had enough inactivity in May/June.

Dunloy v Dal is off already

All matches off. I think it's an absolute joke that club hurlers and supporters suffer again at the whim of a county manager.

Not all the games, just the ones involving county players??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 11:14:35 PM
Ffs it's it just me, but who cares, we weren't good enough on Sat let Meath have their day!! And if they are playing on Sat surely a round of Fixtures might sharpens them up a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 07, 2016, 11:17:14 PM
"We weren't good enough on Saturday..." NEITHER WERE MEATH!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 07, 2016, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 07, 2016, 11:14:35 PM
Ffs it's it just me, but who cares, we weren't good enough on Sat let Meath have their day!! And if they are playing on Sat surely a round of Fixtures might sharpens them up a bit.

Agree. Let them play tomorrow night.

For the love of God, take the phone off clubaontroim tweeter!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM
If Meath don't play they will be hammered by Croke, fines and whatever else....

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on June 07, 2016, 11:59:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM
If Meath don't play they will be hammered by Croke, fines and whatever else....

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??

I wonder if they paid out on the "lift the trophy market" for the original game!

I see they still have the handicap at +/- 6pts.  Antrim should well exceed this second time around and won't be caught on the hop again.

Overheard an interesting conversation this evening regarding U21 championship.

Is there some rule about U17 not being able to play U21 and that some clubs have breached this rule?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 08, 2016, 12:09:06 AM
Both ourselves and Cushendall had U17's playing last night.

Never heard of the U17 rule being related to U21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whitelines on June 08, 2016, 12:48:14 AM
http://www.gaa.ie/news/major-changes-for-underage-grades-after-key-motions-pass/

no changes made to u21 hurling at club or intercounty level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??

That could be very important to morale in the Antrim dressing room alright!!!

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??

That could be very important to morale in the Antrim dressing room alright!!!

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Very good JC ;D

I'm not sure we could say Antrim were caught on the hop - after all we lead early.
Meath might be thinking they won't start so slow!

All in however - I think the high of the original game will leave Meath deflated and fancy an Antrim win with a bit to spare - with Meath then turning the tables and claiming to be hard done by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on June 08, 2016, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2016, 12:09:06 AM
Both ourselves and Cushendall had U17's playing last night.

Never heard of the U17 rule being related to U21

Thought it sounded a strange one, I can't think of any players U17 that played for Cushendall though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 08, 2016, 09:26:30 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on June 08, 2016, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 08, 2016, 12:09:06 AM
Both ourselves and Cushendall had U17's playing last night.

Never heard of the U17 rule being related to U21

Thought it sounded a strange one, I can't think of any players U17 that played for Cushendall though.
There were 2 from Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 08, 2016, 09:48:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??

That could be very important to morale in the Antrim dressing room alright!!!

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Very good JC ;D

I'm not sure we could say Antrim were caught on the hop - after all we lead early.
Meath might be thinking they won't start so slow!

All in however - I think the high of the original game will leave Meath deflated and fancy an Antrim win with a bit to spare - with Meath then turning the tables and claiming to be hard done by.

That and I'm sure they've been on the beer all Saturday night all day Sunday at least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 08, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
Maybe i was looking at it differently than others, i seen Meath manage the game towards the end as being a point up, equally we played the game as being a point down. if the game was a draw i doubt meath would have played the same way. not disputing the score was wrong at that stage but people saying the game was a draw isn't really painting a fair picture. FWIW i think we will hammer Meath in the replay, cant see it being too intense or too big of a crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 10:50:03 AM
Quote from: MoChara on June 08, 2016, 09:48:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM

On another note, Will the bookies pay out on a draw??

That could be very important to morale in the Antrim dressing room alright!!!

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Very good JC ;D

I'm not sure we could say Antrim were caught on the hop - after all we lead early.
Meath might be thinking they won't start so slow!

All in however - I think the high of the original game will leave Meath deflated and fancy an Antrim win with a bit to spare - with Meath then turning the tables and claiming to be hard done by.

That and I'm sure they've been on the beer all Saturday night all day Sunday at least

They shouldn't have been on the beer
They knew very quickly after the match that something was wrong with the score and the possible outcomes
Couple this with the fact their SHC was due to start this weekend then there is no excuse for having the bends
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 08, 2016, 02:39:53 PM
League games cancelled over this farce

can they not just toss a coin and get it over with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/36477628

Meath refusing to play now
What does that mean are our club fixtures this week cancelled yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 03:01:29 PM
Impact on Club fixture was the first point I raised about this shambles.
So how many hurlers in Antrim lose out on two games to facilitate an hour gesture in Newry?
And this is how we advance hurling?
No - this is how we kill hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 03:01:29 PM
Impact on Club fixture was the first point I raised about this shambles.
So how many hurlers in Antrim lose out on two games to facilitate an hour gesture in Newry?
And this is how we advance hurling?
No - this is how we kill hurling.

It's a bit dramatic to say it's gonna kill hurling

Bit of a pain just with leauge fixtures
a situation brought on by human error that has to be dealt with
My point is have we cancelled all these games and now Meath possibly won't play it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/36477628

Meath refusing to play now
What does that mean are our club fixtures this week cancelled yet


Missing a wee 3 letter word there.. Headline says

Meath MAY refuse..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 04:20:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 08, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/36477628

Meath refusing to play now
What does that mean are our club fixtures this week cancelled yet


Missing a wee 3 letter word there.. Headline says

Meath MAY refuse..

Yeah and if you read my last post I wrote they possibly wony play it
There throwing it out there to see what the reponse is at headquarters
They probably think the big house can't come down on them hard for refusing as they didn't cause the mess
But your right it may still be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2016, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 08, 2016, 03:01:29 PM
Impact on Club fixture was the first point I raised about this shambles.
So how many hurlers in Antrim lose out on two games to facilitate an hour gesture in Newry?
And this is how we advance hurling?
No - this is how we kill hurling.

It's a bit dramatic to say it's gonna kill hurling

Bit of a pain just with leauge fixtures
a situation brought on by human error that has to be dealt with
My point is have we cancelled all these games and now Meath possibly won't play it

I mean the general practice of stifling club activity will kill hurling.
In fact it's already doing so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2016, 01:43:52 PM
Antrim will be under abit of pressure to win this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Why isn't it?

HQ made the decision for it to be played this weekend, why change it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2016, 02:57:01 PM
Appeasement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Also the qualifier V Limerick is the same day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Why isn't it?

HQ made the decision for it to be played this weekend, why change it?

Because they didn't apply their own rules and give enough notice to both parties. They were at the mercy of both County Boards to agree to it and Meath played hard ball wanting another day in Croke park and had HQ bang to rights on the game going ahead this Saturday.

There was no reason it couldn't have been played on the 18th with the Ulster semifinal vrs Derry being moved to the Sunday!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Why isn't it?

HQ made the decision for it to be played this weekend, why change it?

Because they didn't apply their own rules and give enough notice to both parties. They were at the mercy of both County Boards to agree to it and Meath played hard ball wanting another day in Croke park and had HQ bang to rights on the game going ahead this Saturday.

There was no reason it couldn't have been played on the 18th with the Ulster semifinal vrs Derry being moved to the Sunday!

Football Feile weekend also 24/25/26 in Limerick.. A few clubs from Antrim involved that also.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 09, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Because clubs lost a round of (Div 1) hurling games for this farce for 1 reason
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 09, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Because clubs lost a round of (Div 1) hurling games for this farce for 1 reason

Surely that was Antrim's decision, granted it was based on what the CCC came up with before consulting with either CB, damn right arrogance from them yet again by those in Croke Park compounding the initial issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on June 09, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
antrim game now moved to 25th in croke park

Joke...

Why so?

Because clubs lost a round of (Div 1) hurling games for this farce for 1 reason

Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 09, 2016, 10:29:54 PM
But that's the point they weren't beaten in the match.
It's pretty straightforward the game was a draw therefore due to the mistake the only thing to do was to replay the game.

Problem is that the GAA officials couldn't even get the refixing of the game right shows the lack of respect held for both teams and counties and the competition in general.

This was ok when it was just a county level problem but their mistake them filtered down to club games getting pulled for no reason so everyone suffers.

IMO the clubs games should have been going ahead regardless if the game was this weekend or on the 25th as is now.

Get the game played get the play off played and forget this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2016, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Both teams played out the last 7 minutes on the wrong score, not the match... If Antrim had have concentrated on taking more scores when on top they would have won... It doesn't matter what time they didn't  score at, at the end.... Had Antrim been in same boat as Meath id be saying same thing.... I've yet to hear too many Meath men come on and be a little bit embarrassed about the whole scenario

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 09, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice

That's soccer.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 10, 2016, 07:33:48 AM
ill be very surprised if the game is played this year at all.

as i said, toss a coin to see who goes up and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice

The fourth official looks after the subs and displays additional time. Do you think he should also keep score, and when he's at it, maybe blow a horn for timekeeping.

I'll break it down into 2 parts;
A. 1 human mistake by the ref. Maybe none of the players or coaches made any mistakes during the game. Anyways, I've explained my reasoning before, Meath earned and got the cup, let them keep it.
B.  Handling of situation by HQ after Antrim went back crying - 'nuff said 'bout this, poor show all round, a fair few chaps embarrassed. There's a few turns left on this road yet. At least there's a bit more time to get the main thing straightened out...  ;D

Are you actually saying that a ref has never made a mistake during a Kilkenny match in September, ever ? This is to do with part A.

As regards your final point, you're back in a rage against the machine again. You are mixing up part A and part B to suit your argument. For your problems since, start from when Antrim went back crying in part B.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2016, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice

The fourth official looks after the subs and displays additional time. Do you think he should also keep score, and when he's at it, maybe blow a horn for timekeeping.

I'll break it down into 2 parts;
A. 1 human mistake by the ref. Maybe none of the players or coaches made any mistakes during the game. Anyways, I've explained my reasoning before, Meath earned and got the cup, let them keep it.
B.  Handling of situation by HQ after Antrim went back crying - 'nuff said 'bout this, poor show all round, a fair few chaps embarrassed. There's a few turns left on this road yet. At least there's a bit more time to get the main thing straightened out...  ;D

Are you actually saying that a ref has never made a mistake during a Kilkenny match in September, ever ? This is to do with part A.

As regards your final point, you're back in a rage against the machine again. You are mixing up part A and part B to suit your argument. For your problems since, start from when Antrim went back crying in part B.

Ok did Meath win? Was this mistake by the ref in the first half or the last 7 minutes of the game? explain, earned to win the cup? it was a draw and they earned a draw, no? there has been a lot of crying on both sides, a non point was used as a means to excuse and when they were told Hawkeye was in use that argument fell silent strangely enough....

as you are so up to date with the rules and the fourth official I've done 4th official at an Ulster club semi final and my job was informing the ref about subs, putting the board with number for the subs and allocating the injury time, that the referee tells me to put up! I don't time it myself (though I did on that occasion) the other job of the 4th official is to monitor the notings and the yellow or black cards (if it was football) and keep score, is that official? I don't know I just did what the ref wanted.. he also had an umpire at either end taking scores.. halftime we made sure they all tallied up....

at big championship games these are the minimum requirements that a referee will have taken... he was man enough to put in the report that the game ended in a draw, that's the only official report that counts, but you'd know that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 10, 2016, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice

The fourth official looks after the subs and displays additional time. Do you think he should also keep score, and when he's at it, maybe blow a horn for timekeeping.

I'll break it down into 2 parts;
A. 1 human mistake by the ref. Maybe none of the players or coaches made any mistakes during the game. Anyways, I've explained my reasoning before, Meath earned and got the cup, let them keep it.
B.  Handling of situation by HQ after Antrim went back crying - 'nuff said 'bout this, poor show all round, a fair few chaps embarrassed. There's a few turns left on this road yet. At least there's a bit more time to get the main thing straightened out...  ;D

Are you actually saying that a ref has never made a mistake during a Kilkenny match in September, ever ? This is to do with part A.

As regards your final point, you're back in a rage against the machine again. You are mixing up part A and part B to suit your argument. For your problems since, start from when Antrim went back crying in part B.

Only a deluded clown would try and lay the blame of this sorry affair at Antrims feet
I have never had a personal attack on the ref  as the only point in your argument that makes sense is he is human
But by all accounts he was recording the score of the scoreboard and not looking at the flags he observed like he should be doing
If he  was doing that then surely at the final whistle be would have been saying " hold on guys my score differs from the board"
MR2 can maybe enlighten us here but surley when your handed an All Ireland Final to ref you should be going by your own book
I know what a 4th official does but in this case the score irregularities where brought to his attention and he could have told the ref to check his score
But I would give the ref a lot more respect than you as he put his hands up and admitted he made a mistake and the game was a draw which you seem to be struggling with
Imm more peaved  with croke park taking three days to meet about this then setting a date four days later without consulting both counties and after refixing club games the date has changed again
What a bunch of dysfunctional idiots
Your brain is still stuck at 2 minutes after the final whistle and it's all Antrims fault
And stop bringing  " Rage against the machine" into it
Rap Metal has nothing to do with a badly officiated hurling final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 10, 2016, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2016, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 11:12:00 PM
Quote from: bogieman on June 09, 2016, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2016, 05:39:50 PM


Exactly
Our game v the dall cancelled last night as well
But it is what it is and a I suppose in view of the way headquarters appointed officials f...ked things up they are maybe right to throw them some slack


Why bring headquarters into this NAH... or just rage at every opportunity

And all you self-righteous ones who blamed the ref, isn't it wonderful that you boys have never made a mistake ?

Both teams played out the match knowing the score on the board, right or wrong, and Antrim were beat on the final blow. Would've saved some embarrassment all round if Meath's last free had pointed, but it didn't seem important when the game was on the blow.

Let them keep the cup, they earned it...  ;)
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Ill bring headquarters into this as much as i see fit
there was more than the ref there, what was the fourth official doing
I cant see how anyone complaining about one of the biggest c..k ups  in an all Ireland final as being self righteous considering headquarters handling of it since
has messed up our club league dates no end and now we have a match on the same day as the football

its obvious that this wouldn't happen to a kilkenny match in September so why is this

and as for '' Let them keep the cup they earned it '' could you explain this to me as even the incompetent people that created this mess have now declared it a draw and have arranged a replay not once but twice

The fourth official looks after the subs and displays additional time. Do you think he should also keep score, and when he's at it, maybe blow a horn for timekeeping.

I'll break it down into 2 parts;
A. 1 human mistake by the ref. Maybe none of the players or coaches made any mistakes during the game. Anyways, I've explained my reasoning before, Meath earned and got the cup, let them keep it.
B.  Handling of situation by HQ after Antrim went back crying - 'nuff said 'bout this, poor show all round, a fair few chaps embarrassed. There's a few turns left on this road yet. At least there's a bit more time to get the main thing straightened out...  ;D

Are you actually saying that a ref has never made a mistake during a Kilkenny match in September, ever ? This is to do with part A.

As regards your final point, you're back in a rage against the machine again. You are mixing up part A and part B to suit your argument. For your problems since, start from when Antrim went back crying in part B.

Ok did Meath win? Was this mistake by the ref in the first half or the last 7 minutes of the game? explain, earned to win the cup? it was a draw and they earned a draw, no? there has been a lot of crying on both sides, a non point was used as a means to excuse and when they were told Hawkeye was in use that argument fell silent strangely enough....

as you are so up to date with the rules and the fourth official I've done 4th official at an Ulster club semi final and my job was informing the ref about subs, putting the board with number for the subs and allocating the injury time, that the referee tells me to put up! I don't time it myself (though I did on that occasion) the other job of the 4th official is to monitor the notings and the yellow or black cards (if it was football) and keep score, is that official? I don't know I just did what the ref wanted.. he also had an umpire at either end taking scores.. halftime we made sure they all tallied up....

at big championship games these are the minimum requirements that a referee will have taken... he was man enough to put in the report that the game ended in a draw, that's the only official report that counts, but you'd know that

I'm still not convinced that the referee's notebook didn't have a Meath win in it when he initially tallied it up after the game!
If he knew it was a draw why then didn't he call a halt to the presentation there and then?
It can't be easy on the referee and some of his officials may have let him down also by giving both county managements a short rebuttal when they asked if the scoreboard was correct or not.

It was a mess and the best thing the GAA could do is come clean on what transpired and change the matchday process to prevent this from happening again!
But will they do that, f**k no, they'll go into coverup mode and bury their heads in the sand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 10, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Agreed JC.
It only makes sense that the Ref indeed had a one point Meath win - and changed this on reviewing TV.
Can't imagine he'd have the score a draw and allow the presentation to go ahead.
But I also share your opinion on the chances (none) of some transparency to explain the error - something which would allow us to move on.
On a similar note - why did we pay for Hawkeye if it wasn't deemed an mportant enough game to use it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 11:54:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Agreed JC.
It only makes sense that the Ref indeed had a one point Meath win - and changed this on reviewing TV.
Can't imagine he'd have the score a draw and allow the presentation to go ahead.
But I also share your opinion on the chances (none) of some transparency to explain the error - something which would allow us to move on.
On a similar note - why did we pay for Hawkeye if it wasn't deemed an mportant enough game to use it?

The only man talking sense on the thread currently.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 11, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 11:54:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Agreed JC.
It only makes sense that the Ref indeed had a one point Meath win - and changed this on reviewing TV.
Can't imagine he'd have the score a draw and allow the presentation to go ahead.
But I also share your opinion on the chances (none) of some transparency to explain the error - something which would allow us to move on.
On a similar note - why did we pay for Hawkeye if it wasn't deemed an mportant enough game to use it?

The only man talking sense on the thread currently.  8)

Hawkeye was used in the two preceding games if I'm not mistaken.

There is a procedure for it to be used and it has to be requested at the time by the officials for a specific score. Not retrospectively.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 11, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 11, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: bogieman on June 10, 2016, 11:54:01 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 10, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Agreed JC.
It only makes sense that the Ref indeed had a one point Meath win - and changed this on reviewing TV.
Can't imagine he'd have the score a draw and allow the presentation to go ahead.
But I also share your opinion on the chances (none) of some transparency to explain the error - something which would allow us to move on.
On a similar note - why did we pay for Hawkeye if it wasn't deemed an mportant enough game to use it?

The only man talking sense on the thread currently.  8)

Hawkeye was used in the two preceding games if I'm not mistaken.

There is a procedure for it to be used and it has to be requested at the time by the officials for a specific score. Not retrospectively.

Every score is checked by Hawkeye apparently, whether the official asks for it or not. If they see an issue where a score looks wide and the ref hasn't asked for Hawkeye they will radio down to the ref that they want to look at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
White and maroon the new johnnies colours then?  ;D nice gesture by Cushendall. 👍
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2016, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
White and maroon the new johnnies colours then?  ;D nice gesture by Cushendall. 👍

Explain?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2016, 07:59:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 12, 2016, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 12, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
White and maroon the new johnnies colours then?  ;D nice gesture by Cushendall. 👍

Explain?
I'm not sure what happened with St John's kit but they played the first half in Cushendall's away kit. Back to normal in second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 12, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
Not really a big issue, the Johnnies forgot their own Jerseys and we have a spare set. The match itself was quite poor fare  to be honest, neither team handed out a hit during the 60 mins which was strange as both badly needed the 2 points.
We didn't even need to put a man marker on Bradley he  didn't want to know!! Any truth in the rumour he was doing a bit of slabbering against another city team recently? #Leopardspotsetc!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 12, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 12, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
Not really a big issue, the Johnnies forgot their own Jerseys and we have a spare set. The match itself was quite poor fare  to be honest, neither team handed out a hit during the 60 mins which was strange as both badly needed the 2 points.
We didn't even need to put a man marker on Bradley he  didn't want to know!! Any truth in the rumour he was doing a bit of slabbering against another city team recently? #Leopardspotsetc!!

Yes. But in that other big ball game.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on June 12, 2016, 11:54:16 PM
MR2, lets hypothetically say you were whistling that game.  You had the game as a draw in your notebook, but look up at the score published by Croke Park and see Meath are a point up at the end of the game.  You know the game is fairly high profile and has been televised(and think to yourself Croke Park couldn't be wrong) , would you not have been tempted to go with the Croke Oark result (in the fear you had made a major c**k up on the big stage?).  It would be a logical explanation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2016, 12:07:42 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on June 12, 2016, 11:54:16 PM
MR2, lets hypothetically say you were whistling that game.  You had the game as a draw in your notebook, but look up at the score published by Croke Park and see Meath are a point up at the end of the game.  You know the game is fairly high profile and has been televised(and think to yourself Croke Park couldn't be wrong) , would you not have been tempted to go with the Croke Oark result (in the fear you had made a major c**k up on the big stage?).  It would be a logical explanation.

I've said before.... I've got two umpire's to keep score, I've corrected many a score board during games, I've also marked down wrong score (temporarily) for other team, but knew score in my head.... This referee is experienced enough to have put the same measures in place, did he make the wrong call at the end?? Yeah he probably did and seeing as it was the 63rd minute he's got lost in his score keeping and took the scoreboard as the actual score, not impossible to think that.... But what I did post was he corrected it after discussing it with others (umpires,linesmen and probably someone from croke)

It could have been worse and gave the score to Meath and we could have won the match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 13, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
Cloughmills showing real promise this year. Wins against Carey midweek and another win against St Galls in Belfast yesterday. Based on that form, they'd be favourites for intermediate I'd imagine. Good to see them doing well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2016, 01:36:16 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 13, 2016, 12:16:13 PM
Cloughmills showing real promise this year. Wins against Carey midweek and another win against St Galls in Belfast yesterday. Based on that form, they'd be favourites for intermediate I'd imagine. Good to see them doing well.
Would the Biddy's have ringers from Loughgiel or Dunloy or all genuinely from Cloughmills?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2016, 01:46:36 PM
Not all Cloughmills. 2 or 3 ringers at least.

€5 Euro into Christy Ring Final with proceeds going to charity. Could the 'Dunsilly Project' be classified as Charity? 8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell

Who are they Antrim? Im just struggling to think of them off the top of my head.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2016, 01:46:36 PM
Not all Cloughmills. 2 or 3 ringers at least.

€5 Euro into Christy Ring Final with proceeds going to charity. Could the 'Dunsilly Project' be classified as Charity? 8)
500 quid going to a deserving charity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2016, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell
Full back is from Belfast?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 13, 2016, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell

Who are they Antrim? Im just struggling to think of them off the top of my head.

Damian Gillen & Liam Cassley from Ballymena. 2 decent players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2016, 01:46:36 PM
Not all Cloughmills. 2 or 3 ringers at least.

€5 Euro into Christy Ring Final with proceeds going to charity. Could the 'Dunsilly Project' be classified as Charity? 8)
500 quid going to a deserving charity.

Id say that is being optimistic TB

Can hardly recall a match that has had less appeal even for the players. No amount of count downs and twitter speak will drum up interest IMHO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 13, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 13, 2016, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell

Who are they Antrim? Im just struggling to think of them off the top of my head.

Damian Gillen & Liam Cassley from Ballymena. 2 decent players.

Owen Kinney from Armoy, another handy hurler.

Goal keeper ex Dunloy????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2016, 03:47:13 PM
Do Ballymena still have a hurling team? I thought they did
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 13, 2016, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2016, 03:47:13 PM
Do Ballymena still have a hurling team? I thought they did

Maybe only play North Antrim Competitions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2016, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 13, 2016, 03:53:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2016, 03:47:13 PM
Do Ballymena still have a hurling team? I thought they did

Maybe only play North Antrim Competitions.

Yeah don't think they are fielding this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on June 13, 2016, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 13, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 13, 2016, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 01:49:37 PM
Think they have players from Dunloy,Ballymena,Armoy and maybe lougheill aswell

Who are they Antrim? Im just struggling to think of them off the top of my head.

Damian Gillen & Liam Cassley from Ballymena. 2 decent players.

Owen Kinney from Armoy, another handy hurler.

Goal keeper ex Dunloy????

Goal keeper is from Cmills as is full back! The question you'd be better asking is how many ringers from Cmills are Dunloy and loughgiel fielding or have fielded in recent years!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
2 players from dunloy,, is the goalie not back after a year with a different club??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on June 13, 2016, 05:18:27 PM
Quote from: Antrim2011 on June 13, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
2 players from dunloy,, is the goalie not back after a year with a different club??



Aye he took a funny turn and went to rasharkin but saw sense and came back. Just the one Dunloy man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 13, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 13, 2016, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 13, 2016, 01:46:36 PM
Not all Cloughmills. 2 or 3 ringers at least.

€5 Euro into Christy Ring Final with proceeds going to charity. Could the 'Dunsilly Project' be classified as Charity? 8)
500 quid going to a deserving charity.

Id say that is being optimistic TB

Can hardly recall a match that has had less appeal even for the players. No amount of count downs and twitter speak will drum up interest IMHO.

Token gesture from the GAA there, they should treble whatever they lift at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron71 on June 14, 2016, 10:26:40 AM
Is the dunloy lad playing for cloughmills not Joe Smyth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2016, 12:53:07 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2016, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 14, 2016, 12:53:07 PM
Yes.
Any connection through Colin Smyth?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron71 on June 14, 2016, 02:56:53 PM
I'm not sure if he's related or not.  All I know is that he was involved with County Minor and Under 21 teams in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 14, 2016, 04:04:49 PM
Joes Grandfather was from Cloughmills. Wasn't getting much game time when he moved up to senior level and loved his hurling too much to sit on the sidelines. One of those lads ... a bit unorthodox but gives every ounce.  A real good fella. Sad he moved on. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2016, 02:46:44 PM
yeah joe wasn't getting much game time for Dunloy and wanted to play at a level he felt he was good enough for. Senior reserve games wasn't what he wanted so he left Dunloy a few years ago.

Like Skull says hes a really good fella and someone who I personally have a lot of time for. Its a pity he left but you cant fault a lad who wants to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2016, 03:47:13 PM
Do Ballymena still have a hurling team? I thought they did

Nothing beyond under age level. Most their lads play for other teams in hurling and football for Ballymena.

The sames happened at Rasharkin in hurling at under age level. You worry for the future of the game in those clubs when that happens.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.

Was a good tight game but the sending off ruined it as we where a point up at the time but it was tit for tat
Thought the second yellow was harsh and Ruined the game. Watson knew he (kevin) was on a yellow and decided to niggle him
Eamon Hasson took the bait
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
tbh I thought it was a poor game from both sides. A lot of poor wides in each half.

I don't think we played overly well and the two winning scores came from 2 mistakes at our own puck outs. They cost us the match, We played with a man down again and I didnt think we looked out of sorts that much, Lgiel didn't take advantage of it again.

I agree with you NAG, theres nothing between the two teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 15, 2016, 04:04:53 PM
DD's/Loughgiels puck outs were the difference between the 2 teams. Where we competed 50/50 on most of our, LG won a very high percentage of clean possession as a result of DD's accuracy and the intelligent movement of their out field players. Hes a great stick man is DD.

Enjoyed the game myself. Very well contested .... but yes quite a few missed scores
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.

Was a good tight game but the sending off ruined it as we where a point up at the time but it was tit for tat
Thought the second yellow was harsh and Ruined the game. Watson knew he (kevin) was on a yellow and decided to niggle him
Eamon Hasson took the bait

niggle him and he lost the rag and got sent off? no ones fault only the player that decided to react to the niggling surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.

Was a good tight game but the sending off ruined it as we where a point up at the time but it was tit for tat
Thought the second yellow was harsh and Ruined the game. Watson knew he (kevin) was on a yellow and decided to niggle him
Eamon Hasson took the bait

niggle him and he lost the rag and got sent off? no ones fault only the player that decided to react to the niggling surely?

Eamon did OK up to that no complaints
Imm not saying he had a choice
But kevin was looking for any more yellows but his man was
I couldn't have a rats a.s what you think of it
Where you there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 15, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
tbh I thought it was a poor game from both sides. A lot of poor wides in each half.

I don't think we played overly well and the two winning scores came from 2 mistakes at our own puck outs. They cost us the match, We played with a man down again and I didnt think we looked out of sorts that much, Lgiel didn't take advantage of it again.

I agree with you NAG, theres nothing between the two teams.

Agreed our short puck outs led to their scores but the long puck didn't seem a good idea with there spare man in there
We got a bit of lesson on puck outs all right
LG very good at i
But we have a very young goalie and he made some mistakes but still you can see his potential
LG where lined out at full strength and we where competing with very young forwards so happy enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 15, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
There was a clear foul on Watson right before the sending off which wasn't given. A push in the back. That resulted in the confrontation. McKeague  (no. 6) could have been sent off in first 10 minutes for the double slap on Benny. I thought it was a clean enough game .....Nigel Elliott is class when he gets going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 15, 2016, 10:32:08 PM
Big win for us tonight in the Feis against the town, well score wise at least. The score line was 2-25 to 0-15
the teams where missing players but the town where brutal we were 10 points up after 15 mins with some great play. Alex Delargy caused McAuley all sorts of bother with his clever movement, Campbell ran riot in the first half, and Magill ran big Matty ragged, and RD scored about 4 points as well, for the town Clarkey didnt look interested,but a bigger task on Tuesday night against The Shamrocks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.

Was a good tight game but the sending off ruined it as we where a point up at the time but it was tit for tat
Thought the second yellow was harsh and Ruined the game. Watson knew he (kevin) was on a yellow and decided to niggle him
Eamon Hasson took the bait

niggle him and he lost the rag and got sent off? no ones fault only the player that decided to react to the niggling surely?

Eamon did OK up to that no complaints
Imm not saying he had a choice
But kevin was looking for any more yellows but his man was
I couldn't have a rats a.s what you think of it
Where you there

You read my post?? You seen the question mark????????? I'm asking a question to find out cause I wasn't there... You do know that's how a question works?

It seemed to me you blamed the ref for getting him sent off because Watson was niggling him.... And Eamon took the bait, seems Kevin took the bait, hook line and sinker.... Call things as they are and stop looking for excuses, not the Dunloy thing in my book
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 16, 2016, 12:10:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 15, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on June 15, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
I though last night was a better quality game between Loughgiel and Dunloy than the league fixture.

Main thing I've learnt across both games is that there is very little between the two sides at the minute and unlikely to change in the next couple of months.

Was a good tight game but the sending off ruined it as we where a point up at the time but it was tit for tat
Thought the second yellow was harsh and Ruined the game. Watson knew he (kevin) was on a yellow and decided to niggle him
Eamon Hasson took the bait

niggle him and he lost the rag and got sent off? no ones fault only the player that decided to react to the niggling surely?

Eamon did OK up to that no complaints
Imm not saying he had a choice
But kevin was looking for any more yellows but his man was
I couldn't have a rats a.s what you think of it
Where you there

You read my post?? You seen the question mark????????? I'm asking a question to find out cause I wasn't there... You do know that's how a question works?

It seemed to me you blamed the ref for getting him sent off because Watson was niggling him.... And Eamon took the bait, seems Kevin took the bait, hook line and sinker.... Call things as they are and stop looking for excuses, not the Dunloy thing in my book

Oh right you where not there but you have an opinion on it
Well seeing as I was there and Imm baffled as to why he received a second yellow
And you where not there but you seem to think he reacted to niggling
Can you tell me exactly what you didnt see because you where not there and that might leave me less confused

Eamon got it wrong he give two yellows for one offense
No one looking for his scalp. He had no linesman or umpires he got it wrong
You can sit there and type all you want that's the facts



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year

Good to see. I think they struggled with reliance on one generation and when they hung up the sticks and there was a gap with others coming through. Close has brought that new generation to mature hopefully judging at this stage.
Worrying results from Corrigan are not as fresh. Bottom of the league and that was a big game to lose last night. Naomh Eoin need some points quickly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year

Good to see. I think they struggled with reliance on one generation and when they hung up the sticks and there was a gap with others coming through. Close has brought that new generation to mature hopefully judging at this stage.
Worrying results from Corrigan are not as fresh. Bottom of the league and that was a big game to lose last night. Naomh Eoin need some points quickly.

I heard the other night that Gavin Bell is playing still, what age would he be now?

Two up, two down I'm being told, is that right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 16, 2016, 09:44:56 AM
I've heard that NP has walked away from the job at Corrigan.

When are they ever going to get their house in order?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 16, 2016, 09:44:56 AM
I've heard that NP has walked away from the job at Corrigan.

When are they ever going to get their house in order?

Correct on he first and God only knows on the second.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 16, 2016, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 16, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year

Good to see. I think they struggled with reliance on one generation and when they hung up the sticks and there was a gap with others coming through. Close has brought that new generation to mature hopefully judging at this stage.
Worrying results from Corrigan are not as fresh. Bottom of the league and that was a big game to lose last night. Naomh Eoin need some points quickly.

I heard the other night that Gavin Bell is playing still, what age would he be now?

Two up, two down I'm being told, is that right?

Gavin Bell must be 37/38
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on June 16, 2016, 11:09:42 AM
He's no more than 35, was minor is 99. Paul Close back hurling this year who's a few years older
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 16, 2016, 11:16:42 AM
And playing both for that matter .... that can't be easy... fair play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 16, 2016, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 16, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year

Good to see. I think they struggled with reliance on one generation and when they hung up the sticks and there was a gap with others coming through. Close has brought that new generation to mature hopefully judging at this stage.
Worrying results from Corrigan are not as fresh. Bottom of the league and that was a big game to lose last night. Naomh Eoin need some points quickly.

I heard the other night that Gavin Bell is playing still, what age would he be now?

Two up, two down I'm being told, is that right?

Gavin Bell must be 37/38

Gavin has just turned 35 so not as old as he may look :D Scuse (Paul) on the other hand is Playing hurling, football and managing the footballersand he would be 37 coming 38
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 16, 2016, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 16, 2016, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 16, 2016, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on June 16, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Rossa seem to be quietly going well this year, the points they have dropped have been to Dunloy, Shams and Dall, them being a drew and a 1 point and 2 point defeat. would still be big outsiders for championship but if they keep moving in this direction they could cause the odd upset. Scuse seems to be getting more from them than they have showed in the last couple of years, very frustrating team because imo ability is never the lacking ingredient its usually mindset and apathy that lets them down year after year

Good to see. I think they struggled with reliance on one generation and when they hung up the sticks and there was a gap with others coming through. Close has brought that new generation to mature hopefully judging at this stage.
Worrying results from Corrigan are not as fresh. Bottom of the league and that was a big game to lose last night. Naomh Eoin need some points quickly.

I heard the other night that Gavin Bell is playing still, what age would he be now?

Two up, two down I'm being told, is that right?

Gavin Bell must be 37/38

Gavin has just turned 35 so not as old as he may look :D Scuse (Paul) on the other hand is Playing hurling, football and managing the footballersand he would be 37 coming 38

Only pups!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 16, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Entertaining Countess Match tonight against our good friends round the Arch, which they won by 5. I'd safety say they must be favourites for Div 3 they are rubbish and going nowhere fast. Same poor behaviour from the same culprits ignored by the same sideline. When will they ever learn, we hit a couple of slaps as well some where due to playing about 8/9 z squad players who are slow and dare I say Carrying a little bit of timber and playing 2 goalkeepers out the field as well. The ref just wasn't interested in frees either way so it good Craic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 16, 2016, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 16, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Entertaining Countess Match tonight against our good friends round the Arch, which they won by 5. I'd safety say they must be favourites for Div 3 they are rubbish and going nowhere fast. Same poor behaviour from the same culprits ignored by the same sideline. When will they ever learn, we hit a couple of slaps as well some where due to playing about 8/9 z squad players who are slow and dare I say Carrying a little bit of timber and playing 2 goalkeepers out the field as well. The ref just wasn't interested in frees either way so it good Craic.

Doing a bit of an injustice to those z squad players, they emptied the tank which is all you can ask. I was at a loose end for an hour and travelled to watch the game as I thought it would be tasty. Some nice scores from both sides but the discipline of Glenarriffe left a lot to be desired at times. Things changed when Declan McKillop came on, wasn't as much slapping then. Your right, same 4/5 lads doing the slapping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Didnt say you did, but some players and referees seem to think otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Didnt say you did, but some players and referees seem to think otherwise.
Now now lads don't youse be falling out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Didnt say you did, but some players and referees seem to think otherwise.
Now now lads don't youse be falling out.

No fall out here.

I'm sure the Dall lads on the board will back me up when I say it was a cowardly dirty act and as I said lucky that the full back was wearing a helmet or he'd be of been split wide open. The lad who did the slapping is one of those who think that slapping is ok, just as NAG said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Didnt say you did, but some players and referees seem to think otherwise.
Now now lads don't youse be falling out.

No fall out here.

I'm sure the Dall lads on the board will back me up when I say it was a cowardly dirty act and as I said lucky that the full back was wearing a helmet or he'd be of been split wide open. The lad who did the slapping is one of those who think that slapping is ok, just as NAG said.

The slaps are a pain in the hole for a player, kids hands nowadays anit as tough as they used to be so getting those knocks on the hand cause a lot more damaged than before (modern parents are the real reason)

don't be blaming referees ffs  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on June 17, 2016, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 17, 2016, 09:03:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 17, 2016, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 17, 2016, 07:18:28 AM
It must be hard being a lad from Glenariff who actually wants to hurl playing with 3 or 4 fellas who are only interested in slapping and starting a siege. There was as dirty as slap as I've seen in the first half from a Glenariff forward. Cowardly stuff.

Just another League game for us lads in Div 4, I genuinely think some lads in our league think a full on slap with the hurl is a legitimate challange and look baffaled any time a ref blows them up, ya just get used to it down there, Z hurling every week

Lucky helmets are compulsery now or it'd be hospital job.

Helmets are not an excuse to just let go any where under the ball.


Did I say they were an excuse?

Didnt say you did, but some players and referees seem to think otherwise.
Now now lads don't youse be falling out.

No fall out here.

I'm sure the Dall lads on the board will back me up when I say it was a cowardly dirty act and as I said lucky that the full back was wearing a helmet or he'd be of been split wide open. The lad who did the slapping is one of those who think that slapping is ok, just as NAG said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 19, 2016, 04:42:35 PM
Anyone know if Armagh athletic grounds are streaming the Antrim match? I looked on the website and couldn't see anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
Antrim 0-09 Derry 0-03.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 19, 2016, 05:39:47 PM
19-5 ht
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 19, 2016, 05:39:47 PM
19-5 ht
playing well by all accounts. Benny McCarry a sub today apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 19, 2016, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 19, 2016, 05:39:47 PM
19-5 ht
playing well by all accounts. Benny McCarry a sub today apparently.

Just following it on twitter he must have been brought  on he just got a point at the death

Final score 3-28 to 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 19, 2016, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 19, 2016, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 19, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 19, 2016, 05:39:47 PM
19-5 ht
playing well by all accounts. Benny McCarry a sub today apparently.

Just following it on twitter he must have been brought  on he just got a point at the death

Final score 3-28 to 0-14

Pretty embarrassing stuff all round
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 19, 2016, 11:24:44 PM
Chris O'Connell leave the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
Well done to Antrim
Let's hope they can get a result v Meath this weekend
Big shock for Down
They seem to have have some dicipline issues at the moment
Some red cards in the last two games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 20, 2016, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
Well done to Antrim
Let's hope they can get a result v Meath this weekend
Big shock for Down
They seem to have have some dicipline issues at the moment
Some red cards in the last two games

No big shock at all, three of the team away on a stag do, very little training done since the Christy Ring defeat and no one gives a shit about the Ulster championship.

Discipline does seem to be an issue, maybe its wee men trying to be big men I don't know, but I know one of our lads is inclined to walk a tightrope in terms of double yellows, but he plays in the forwards for us and in the backs for the county and IMO as good as a hurler he his, he needs to learn how to defend when his opponent has the ball rather than panicking and slapping away where he gives up loads of fouls and yellows.
There's an art form to it, some pick it up instinctively, others learn it once they're shown and sometimes you learn from hard lessons being taught on the field of play and others just don't get it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 20, 2016, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 20, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
Well done to Antrim
Let's hope they can get a result v Meath this weekend
Big shock for Down
They seem to have have some dicipline issues at the moment
Some red cards in the last two games

No big shock at all, three of the team away on a stag do, very little training done since the Christy Ring defeat and no one gives a shit about the Ulster championship.

Discipline does seem to be an issue, maybe its wee men trying to be big men I don't know, but I know one of our lads is inclined to walk a tightrope in terms of double yellows, but he plays in the forwards for us and in the backs for the county and IMO as good as a hurler he his, he needs to learn how to defend when his opponent has the ball rather than panicking and slapping away where he gives up loads of fouls and yellows.
There's an art form to it, some pick it up instinctively, others learn it once they're shown and sometimes you learn from hard lessons being taught on the field of play and others just don't get it.

That's a pity if I was honest I thought they where hurling better than us In LG but conceded a lot of frees and serious borderline physicality from more than one player
On hurling ability they should be beating Armagh and would have have have Antrim a fair rattle In the final
Antrim don't seem to motivated by Ulster and after the christy ring wouldn't have been training to hard for final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 20, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
Feis Cup semi will hardly be played tomorrow night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 20, 2016, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 19, 2016, 11:24:44 PM
Chris O'Connell leave the panel?
Away on holiday I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
Must have been a tight u21 final tonight. Anyone at it? Must have been near the last puck of the game cushendall goaled...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 20, 2016, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
Must have been a tight u21 final tonight. Anyone at it? Must have been near the last puck of the game cushendall goaled...

It was .....good game. Alec Delargy scored the scrappiest winning goal in  the last minute. Very close game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 21, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 20, 2016, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
Must have been a tight u21 final tonight. Anyone at it? Must have been near the last puck of the game cushendall goaled...

It was .....good game. Alec Delargy scored the scrappiest winning goal in  the last minute. Very close game.

what game where you at, it was a pretty poor game IMHO,  from our point of view we played very badly all over the field maybe bar 3/4 positions.

Loughgiel IMO didnt play all that well either.

but saying that credit to the boys, they stuck at it to the very end and got the chance to win it at the end and took it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 21, 2016, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: Megaman on June 21, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 20, 2016, 09:55:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
Must have been a tight u21 final tonight. Anyone at it? Must have been near the last puck of the game cushendall goaled...

It was .....good game. Alec Delargy scored the scrappiest winning goal in  the last minute. Very close game.

what game where you at, it was a pretty poor game IMHO,  from our point of view we played very badly all over the field maybe bar 3/4 positions.

Loughgiel IMO didnt play all that well either.

but saying that credit to the boys, they stuck at it to the very end and got the chance to win it at the end and took it.

What i should have said was it was a close game. Totally agree that neither team played well. It was tight throughout though which made it entertaining enough. Cushendal got out of jail I think!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on June 21, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
I hear some club games going ahead with county players involved in Div 3 tomorrow nights, county wont call them off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 21, 2016, 11:05:24 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on June 21, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
I hear some club games going ahead with county players involved in Div 3 tomorrow nights, county wont call them off.

Glad to hear it. Feis cup semi on Thursday too ......Cloughmills v Clooney Gaels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 23, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if Antrim GAA move with the times and change the times of this weekend games to avoid the clash with Ireland match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 23, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if Antrim GAA move with the times and change the times of this weekend games to avoid the clash with Ireland match.

Id say this will probably fall to clubs between themselves to sort out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 23, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if Antrim GAA move with the times and change the times of this weekend games to avoid the clash with Ireland match.

Id say this will probably fall to clubs between themselves to sort out.

Christy Ring replay on the same time as Norn Iron is playing, Antrim not looking for a new time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 23, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if Antrim GAA move with the times and change the times of this weekend games to avoid the clash with Ireland match.

Id say this will probably fall to clubs between themselves to sort out.

Christy Ring replay on the same time as Norn Iron is playing, Antrim not looking for a new time?

I know what I'll be watching..... Extreme makeovers on Sky Atlantic  ;D

Was down your neck of the woods today, pitch looking great!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 23, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
Will be interesting to see if Antrim GAA move with the times and change the times of this weekend games to avoid the clash with Ireland match.

Id say this will probably fall to clubs between themselves to sort out.

Christy Ring replay on the same time as Norn Iron is playing, Antrim not looking for a new time?

I know what I'll be watching..... Extreme makeovers on Sky Atlantic  ;D

Was down your neck of the woods today, pitch looking great!!

What you doing, cattle rustling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 25, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Hurlers beat by a point after extra time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 25, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
Any excuses this time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 25, 2016, 08:55:24 PM
7 or 8 points up at half time.

Meath came out and scored 1-5 or something after half time. Antrim managed 1 point in nearly 20 minutes.

Then it was point for point and Antrim scored a goal with what must have been the last poc of the game to equalise and bring it to extra time.

The clown who runs the Antrim Twitter feed needs his head looked at when he tweeted 'Be Proud' after a defeat by Meath.

This result will set Antrim county hurling back years.No one will want to bother with them next season. Lads would rather hurl with their clubs.

Could go into free fall a bit like Derry have this year. Bad times ahead. Saffron Vision my hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 25, 2016, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 25, 2016, 08:55:24 PM
7 or 8 points up at half time.

Meath came out and scored 1-5 or something after half time. Antrim managed 1 point in nearly 20 minutes.

Then it was point for point and Antrim scored a goal with what must have been the last poc of the game to equalise and bring it to extra time.

The clown who runs the Antrim Twitter feed needs his head looked at when he tweeted 'Be Proud' after a defeat by Meath.

This result will set Antrim county hurling back years.No one will want to bother with them next season. Lads would rather hurl with their clubs.

Could go into free fall a bit like Derry have this year. Bad times ahead. Saffron Vision my hole

Aye that Antrim Twitter custodian could get a gig in North Korea if it doesent work out here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2016, 09:30:16 PM
Short memories.
A few of us were castigated on here for criticising the tweets.

As for hurlers returning to clubs. I think I've repeated this ad nauseum.
Club scene prioritised until strong enough to lift county team.
Anything else and it'll be deja vous all over again.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 25, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 25, 2016, 09:38:31 PM
I can't fathom why people get annoyed by these tweets.

Not annoyed. But it isn't PR.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2016, 10:34:45 PM
Maybe time to call a spade a spade. Maybe he/she should say it was dung and players, management and county board should have a look at themselves. Maybe people like us who write on forums should have a bigger input?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 25, 2016, 10:59:57 PM
I'd say we are lucky enough to have one of the most capable and genuinely interested PRO'S  in the business. Once he starts losing that positivity we are really in a shit place. Surely his eternal optimism has to be applauded and encouraged.

There will always be enough pessimist artists here to create balance.

And as for anyone trying to pin anything relating to today's performance in either code on Saffron Vision well that's totally cheap. Senior performance (or lack of it) is the result of years and years work and most of the main personnel on our new board have only been there a few months.

What would you like them to do considering they have inherited a county with dismal inter county records in recent years and practically a bankrupt economic basket case. Hats off to the men who have stood up to try and sort out the mess we are in but for God's sake give them time to put their structures in place.

Or is there anyone here wants to put themselves forward as someone who could make a tangible difference??



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 26, 2016, 12:06:51 AM
Phew.............
Not really a forum for debating what's PR and the most effective use of social media.
I'd charge by the 1/2 day for that ;)
But some of the tweets would be ill advised.
If others think differently grand so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 26, 2016, 01:40:56 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 25, 2016, 10:59:57 PM
I'd say we are lucky enough to have one of the most capable and genuinely interested PRO'S  in the business. Once he starts losing that positivity we are really in a shit place. Surely his eternal optimism has to be applauded and encouraged.

There will always be enough pessimist artists here to create balance.

And as for anyone trying to pin anything relating to today's performance in either code on Saffron Vision well that's totally cheap. Senior performance (or lack of it) is the result of years and years work and most of the main personnel on our new board have only been there a few months.

What would you like them to do considering they have inherited a county with dismal inter county records in recent years and practically a bankrupt economic basket case. Hats off to the men who have stood up to try and sort out the mess we are in but for God's sake give them time to put their structures in place.

Or is there anyone here wants to put themselves forward as someone who could make a tangible difference??

Not once would I question the vigour and heart that they are putting in to the job, it's super to see after the previous shambles there was but holy Christ Bannside please take off your saffron vision specs and call it as it is! There are Tweets and Facebook posts that aren't helpful after another set of poor results! Also I don't care if CJ McGourty is living it up on the beach in Oz and kicking points when I'd rather he was here kicking points.

Hopefully today is a turning point in county fortunes and the reality will hit home for lads & ladies now that we just aren't good enough. We can't afford to lose lads like McManus or Graffin from the panel. For us to succeed we need every man that's capable of playing senior county hurling wearing that jersey and everybody there cheering them on. I will continue to support my county teams & county board when I can, but to be honest my patience & money is wearing thin. £45 today to travel to Belfast to watch that football match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 26, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Anyone up in Owenbeg today to watch the minors today

Some difference in the full time and extra time performances it would appear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 27, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Anyone up in Owenbeg today to watch the minors today

Some difference in the full time and extra time performances it would appear

Wasn't at it as had some croke park blues from Saturday
But the Irish news says coby hit 1.13 ( 10 from frees)
K Molloy got 1.04 And E O Neil Came on and hit 2.03 so well done to the dunloy lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on June 27, 2016, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 27, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Anyone up in Owenbeg today to watch the minors today

Some difference in the full time and extra time performances it would appear

Wasn't at it as had some croke park blues from Saturday
But the Irish news says coby hit 1.13 ( 10 from frees)
K Molloy got 1.04 And E O Neil Came on and hit 2.03 so well done to the dunloy lads

Derry didn't show up in ET. Good tactics by Antrim, in that period, pulling everyone back and giving 3 or 4 lads up front plenty of space which they used very effectively. 9, 11 and 20 were the lads who stood out for me, think they are the 3 mentioned above. 9 was lucky to stay on the pitch after a wild pull when he was fouled with 15 mins to go. Big lad wearing number 7 seemed very good, serious pace for a great point in the 1st half of ET.

The ref seemed to play more than the 4 minutes injury time that was allocated which allowed Antrim to pull level. As a Derry man, was very disappointed with the ref (don't see where he got 4 minutes from) but fair play to Antrim for taking advantage and pushing on in ET.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 27, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Link on June 27, 2016, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 27, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Anyone up in Owenbeg today to watch the minors today

Some difference in the full time and extra time performances it would appear

Wasn't at it as had some croke park blues from Saturday
But the Irish news says coby hit 1.13 ( 10 from frees)
K Molloy got 1.04 And E O Neil Came on and hit 2.03 so well done to the dunloy lads

Derry didn't show up in ET. Good tactics by Antrim, in that period, pulling everyone back and giving 3 or 4 lads up front plenty of space which they used very effectively. 9, 11 and 20 were the lads who stood out for me, think they are the 3 mentioned above. 9 was lucky to stay on the pitch after a wild pull when he was fouled with 15 mins to go. Big lad wearing number 7 seemed very good, serious pace for a great point in the 1st half of ET.

The ref seemed to play more than the 4 minutes injury time that was allocated which allowed Antrim to pull level. As a Derry man, was very disappointed with the ref (don't see where he got 4 minutes from) but fair play to Antrim for taking advantage and pushing on in ET.

7 was Eamonn Smyth from Dunloy also. A fine hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leftbackno4 on June 27, 2016, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 27, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Link on June 27, 2016, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 27, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on June 26, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Anyone up in Owenbeg today to watch the minors today

Some difference in the full time and extra time performances it would appear

Wasn't at it as had some croke park blues from Saturday
But the Irish news says coby hit 1.13 ( 10 from frees)
K Molloy got 1.04 And E O Neil Came on and hit 2.03 so well done to the dunloy lads

Derry didn't show up in ET. Good tactics by Antrim, in that period, pulling everyone back and giving 3 or 4 lads up front plenty of space which they used very effectively. 9, 11 and 20 were the lads who stood out for me, think they are the 3 mentioned above. 9 was lucky to stay on the pitch after a wild pull when he was fouled with 15 mins to go. Big lad wearing number 7 seemed very good, serious pace for a great point in the 1st half of ET.

The ref seemed to play more than the 4 minutes injury time that was allocated which allowed Antrim to pull level. As a Derry man, was very disappointed with the ref (don't see where he got 4 minutes from) but fair play to Antrim for taking advantage and pushing on in ET.

7 was Eamonn Smyth from Dunloy also. A fine hurler.
I'm sure Derry are gutted as they were by far the better team for 40-45 mins when Antrims forwards were posted missing with the ball coming straight back at the Antrim defence.  Molloy put in a shift throughout the game and Coby came to life when moved to the edge of the square. The introduction of Eoin O'Neill and then Peter McCallin gave the Antrim forward line a real cutting edge while the other changes helped Antrim to win ball around the middle third. Antrim certainly played their  'get out of jail free' card and it will be interesting to see if they can kick on from here as another performance like their first 45mins will just not be good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 28, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Is it too soon, to start asking about where the hell we go from here?
or will we wait to the club season it out of the way first?  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 28, 2016, 02:59:46 PM
There's an interview on HoganStand website with Sarsfields lad McKenna.
I assume it's therefore taken from the Irish News.

" I thought we played well to be honest . . . I thought our intensity levels were better than the last day and we went out with a bit of respect . . . I don't think there's one player who didn't give their all and hopefully we'll take that positive into the Ulster final and hopefully end the year on a high."

I'm not criticising him - but if we're losing to Meath - and able to be positive about it - then I think that says it all about our current status.

Yes we should beat Meath - but generally the hurling standard simply isn't there at present.
The road to improvement - wherever that is - can only begin with the Clubs.
Prioritising the county set up is like putting lipstick on a pig.
Only after years of an invigorated club scene will we raise our standard at county level.
(And yes I'm starting to even bore myself by repeating this!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 28, 2016, 04:07:06 PM
Should ...... Sounding just like the English btdtgtt.

Coaching standards and drive for better standards varies massively between clubs and even between agegroups within clubs. Not enough of a coaching population with the right skillsets to stop bad habits/mannerisms developing and bring as many youngsters through to WANT to play senior for their club.

More bodies on the ground who actually want to learn how to coach rather than just help out has to be the first step.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 28, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
Are Meath better than we're giving them credit for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 28, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
Nothing wrong with saying we should beat Meath?
We held a significant advantage over them on two occasions - should have see it out.

Meath hurling has improved - ours has deteriorated.
It's that simple unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 28, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 28, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
Are Meath better than we're giving them credit for?

Yes
Their fielding was top class and they where playing as a unit
Their support play was better and they seem to have some plan in place
If they hadnt have shot all those wides( Antrim where more ecomonical with there shooting) they could have been out of sight by half time


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 28, 2016, 10:48:48 PM
Anyone Ive been talking to who was at the game has said Meath were worthy winners.

If we don't accept this is where we're at then nothing will change. A level headed root and branch review needs to be carried out and see what can be done.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 29, 2016, 08:52:30 AM
Is Feis cup on tonight Shams v Dal? If so where?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on June 29, 2016, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 28, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
Are Meath better than we're giving them credit for?

Meath deserved it, twice.   8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 29, 2016, 08:52:30 AM
Is Feis cup on tonight Shams v Dal? If so where?

I'm guessing Loughuile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 29, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: bogieman on June 29, 2016, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 28, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
Are Math better than we're giving them credit for?

Math deserved it, twice.   8)

It's worth noting that the support Antrim had there compared to Meath was really bad
They really drove their team on
I was there on Saturday but I have not been going to games as much so I'm including myself when I say our support is every bit as bad as our hurling these days
When Antrim scored on Saturday you wouldn't have heard a thing
It definitely meant more to Meath in every respect

We gifted them two goals through bad ball handling but in fairness to all the players they tried really hard the whole match and deserve a bit of praise for that
Young Connelly looks like a real peach and Clark was good when given the right ball
Eoin Campbell fixed a leak and hurled well when moved back

It can't be easy being a county player at the moment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 29, 2016, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2016, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 29, 2016, 08:52:30 AM
Is Feis cup on tonight Shams v Dal? If so where?

I'm guessing Loughuile.
yep. 7.30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
Dall won by 2 points. Both teams understrentgh. Not a great match to be honest spoilt mostly by a referee who doesn't know how to let it go. To be honest it's one of the worst displays of refereeing I've seen in a long time.
Somebody please have a word with him as it does nothing to better hurling in this county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2016, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
Dall won by 2 points. Both teams understrentgh. Not a great match to be honest spoilt mostly by a referee who doesn't know how to let it go. To be honest it's one of the worst displays of refereeing I've seen in a long time.
Somebody please have a word with him as it does nothing to better hurling in this county.

Paging MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on June 29, 2016, 09:51:52 PM
Cushendall team notably weaker than the shamrocks, surprising win and didn't think over all the ref was too bad brocky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Can't figure that one out hurling balls. Loughgiel missing at least 6 starters. I'd say cdall maybe 4 if you count lads that might not play this year.
As for the ref I thought he was awful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2016, 10:01:33 PM
What were the teams and who was the ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on June 29, 2016, 10:04:03 PM
Skinny was the ref, sent ding off (2yellows) after a seriously dirty swing which ended up hurting his own man! We were missing Burkey, Ryan our goalie and forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Can't figure that one out hurling balls. Loughgiel missing at least 6 starters. I'd say cdall maybe 4 if you count lads that might not play this year.
As for the ref I thought he was awful.

Wonder if you could enlighten us bit further broky, specific incidents?

I'm with hurlingstick on this one just curious.

Was a game played with very little intensity on both sides the sending off seemed to strangely work in LGs favour.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 29, 2016, 11:16:13 PM
Brockey much as I think he's a a first class p***k I also think he's a first class referee!! And in my mind the only ref in the County actually capable of controlling a Div 1 game. I'd say there where a few occasions where lesser refs would have calfed to the abuse your crowd gave him, but he did the game as fair as possible. We should have had a card for our full backs foul on Dan in the second half and Perhaps a second yellow for Dave for persistent fouls but that's only a maybe!!
As for the game we started like a train and Scored some great scores and built a lead which was deserved. Some of our forwards although where worryingly poor and to me didn't put in a shift for the team. Loughguile where chasing shadows in the first 30, but by God they uped the ante after Ding went for an awful pull on young Betty, more like the Ding of the pre Nelson era. We just about held on against 14 men, what our plan was along the line was would keep me up half the night trying to figure it if it wasn't only the Feis!! But a win is a win especially against the bodies😉 but will mean very little come September!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on June 30, 2016, 12:01:18 AM
Loughgiel management won the game for Cushendall tonight.  Refused to play their County players due to disciplinary reasons (they apparently took Sunday off due to playing Christy Ring on Sat evening).  What do you make of that SIE? (If you were even at the game.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on June 30, 2016, 12:21:10 AM
Cushendall were missing 7 starters from All Ireland campaign, Eoin Gillan, Ryan Mccambridge, Martin Burke, Aaron Graffin, Shane McNaughton, Neil McManus and Donal McNaughton, with only Gillan, Burke and McCambridge to come back in. Neil, Shane and Aaron are travelling and Donal has retired.

It's good to see the likes of Joe McCurry, Eoin McManus, Fergus McCambridge, Emmet Laverty, Ryan Delargy, Alex Delargy and Cormac McAlister getting plenty of senior game time over the last 2 years which will only make our squad stronger in the long run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on June 30, 2016, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on June 30, 2016, 12:21:10 AM
Cushendall were missing 7 starters from All Ireland campaign, Eoin Gillan, Ryan Mccambridge, Martin Burke, Aaron Graffin, Shane McNaughton, Neil McManus and Donal McNaughton, with only Gillan, Burke and McCambridge to come back in. Neil, Shane and Aaron are travelling and Donal has retired.

It's good to see the likes of Joe McCurry, Eoin McManus, Fergus McCambridge, Emmet Laverty, Ryan Delargy, Alex Delargy and Cormac McAlister getting plenty of senior game time over the last 2 years which will only make our squad stronger in the long run.

Young boys holding there own too.  Cushendall's under strength couldn't be helped, Loughgiels however was self inflicked.  I know I wouldn't be happy knowing a better team could have played but everyone to their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on June 30, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
It all sounds like a taster for later in the year!
Dare I say it - but already seeing the interest in our Club scene compared to County!
Imagine if we had interest in games that matter every week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 30, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 30, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
It all sounds like a taster for later in the year!
Dare I say it - but already seeing the interest in our Club scene compared to County!
Imagine if we had interest in games that matter every week!

Exactly what this county needs. Full throttle league games with teams fielding full strength squads. Summer Sundays, good hurling, big crowds and few beers after. Simple.

Do NOT allow anyone you know talk about county team/management/squad/Meath/Ulster final as it really is irrelevant and will only depress you and everyone around you! Back to focusing on what we do best, club hurling and developing the young cubs. Like somebody said earlier, lets STOP putting lipstick on a PIG.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2016, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on June 30, 2016, 12:01:18 AM
Loughgiel management won the game for Cushendall tonight.  Refused to play their County players due to disciplinary reasons (they apparently took Sunday off due to playing Christy Ring on Sat evening).  What do you make of that SIE? (If you were even at the game.)
I wasn't at it. Busy man  ;)  Tony and Eddie are injured and Clyde is working is England. As for the rest I've no idea.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 30, 2016, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on June 30, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
It all sounds like a taster for later in the year!
Dare I say it - but already seeing the interest in our Club scene compared to County!
Imagine if we had interest in games that matter every week!

Exactly what this county needs. Full throttle league games with teams fielding full strength squads. Summer Sundays, good hurling, big crowds and few beers after. Simple.

Do NOT allow anyone you know talk about county team/management/squad/Meath/Ulster final as it really is irrelevant and will only depress you and everyone around you! Back to focusing on what we do best, club hurling and developing the young cubs. Like somebody said earlier, lets STOP putting lipstick on a PIG.

What about everyone showing a lot more commitment to both like other counties that are suceesfull in both
Just an idea
Certainly better than referring to our county set up as a pig
I think that attitude is our biggest problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2016, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on June 30, 2016, 12:01:18 AM
Loughgiel management won the game for Cushendall tonight.  Refused to play their County players due to disciplinary reasons (they apparently took Sunday off due to playing Christy Ring on Sat evening).  What do you make of that SIE? (If you were even at the game.)
I wasn't at it. Busy man  ;)  Tony and Eddie are injured and Clyde is working is England. As for the rest I've no idea.

Who's Clyde SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2016, 12:52:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 30, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on June 30, 2016, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on June 30, 2016, 12:01:18 AM
Loughgiel management won the game for Cushendall tonight.  Refused to play their County players due to disciplinary reasons (they apparently took Sunday off due to playing Christy Ring on Sat evening).  What do you make of that SIE? (If you were even at the game.)
I wasn't at it. Busy man  ;)  Tony and Eddie are injured and Clyde is working is England. As for the rest I've no idea.

Who's Clyde SIE
Odhran
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2016, 10:33:39 PM
Horrible games to officiate, the know it all crowd who see everything (except their own teams fouls) want to have their say!! Skinny is a decent referee who's played at the right level and is fit enough to keep up with game.....

Sure ya wouldn't want a Frankie down there for those games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 01, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
I've watched replay of Christy Ring a few times now. Nobody else think the referee screwed us? Our penalty claim/their last free!!! They lived off frees ....think their first point from play was in the 35th minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 01, 2016, 11:54:13 PM
Same ref that gave St Louis nothing earlier this year

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 02, 2016, 12:00:46 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2016, 11:54:13 PM
Same ref that gave St Louis nothing earlier this year

Skull ....you're some boy. Very observant, didn't know that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 02, 2016, 12:22:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 01, 2016, 11:54:13 PM
Same ref that gave St Louis nothing earlier this year

Spot of the year with that.. Fair play!

I honestly think a win in the Christy Ring would of papered over the cracks that exist. I honestly think that it could be a blessing disguise! I hope some massive changes in management and player attitude for next season and a realisation that we aren't and won't be Liam McCarty contenders for the next 5-10 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 02, 2016, 12:54:29 AM
To develop hurling to the right level needs serious effort PJ. I'd be worried that theres not enough 'no wise' hurling mad folk to spread the load and leave the rest spread too thin.

Agree on the paper over the cracks bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 02, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Can't figure that one out hurling balls. Loughgiel missing at least 6 starters. I'd say cdall maybe 4 if you count lads that might not play this year.
As for the ref I thought he was awful.

Wonder if you could enlighten us bit further broky, specific incidents?

I'm with hurlingstick on this one just curious.

Was a game played with very little intensity on both sides the sending off seemed to strangely work in LGs favour.

The game was ruined by constantly blowing for petty fouls. The big problem I have is his inconsistent fouls. He gave dall a free for dings accidental pull on his own man and gave us nothing when a dall man done the same.
He needs to let the game flow a but and not try to be some super ref by blowing for all these technical minor fouls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: Brocky on July 02, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Can't figure that one out hurling balls. Loughgiel missing at least 6 starters. I'd say cdall maybe 4 if you count lads that might not play this year.
As for the ref I thought he was awful.

Wonder if you could enlighten us bit further broky, specific incidents?

I'm with hurlingstick on this one just curious.

Was a game played with very little intensity on both sides the sending off seemed to strangely work in LGs favour.

The game was ruined by constantly blowing for petty fouls. The big problem I have is his inconsistent fouls. He gave dall a free for dings accidental pull on his own man and gave us nothing when a dall man done the same.
He needs to let the game flow a but and not try to be some super ref by blowing for all these technical minor fouls.
Dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't....he's not there to "let it flow" that's down to the players no??

Minor foul? Explain that one?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on July 02, 2016, 06:04:39 PM
"Dings accidental swing brocky" I'm going to presume you were no where near play when that happened. His pull was high late and was most definitely not aimed at his own player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 02, 2016, 06:28:24 PM
Day use not know it's loughgiel's fault? Them dall boys wouldn't have a dirty swing in them sure.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 02, 2016, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 01, 2016, 11:12:30 PM
I've watched replay of Christy Ring a few times now. Nobody else think the referee screwed us? Our penalty claim/their last free!!! They lived off frees ....think their first point from play was in the 35th minute.

Jeez man you must be bored :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 03, 2016, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: Brocky on July 02, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Brocky on June 29, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Can't figure that one out hurling balls. Loughgiel missing at least 6 starters. I'd say cdall maybe 4 if you count lads that might not play this year.
As for the ref I thought he was awful.

Wonder if you could enlighten us bit further broky, specific incidents?

I'm with hurlingstick on this one just curious.

Was a game played with very little intensity on both sides the sending off seemed to strangely work in LGs favour.

The game was ruined by constantly blowing for petty fouls. The big problem I have is his inconsistent fouls. He gave dall a free for dings accidental pull on his own man and gave us nothing when a dall man done the same.
He needs to let the game flow a but and not try to be some super ref by blowing for all these technical minor fouls.
Dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't....he's not there to "let it flow" that's down to the players no??

Minor foul? Explain that one?
You know well what I mean mr2. Anyway does 53 frees in the one match not tell it's own storey. Especially when it wasn't an intense or dirty game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
There are two ways to look at it brocky.... Do I call every free and appease everyone or do I let certain things go .... Which gets people slabbering mouthing off and hurling abuse at you??

Loughgiel and Cushendall games have become a lot more tetchy niggly games.... Someone leaves the stick in, pulls high ,  early and late.... Some scuffles .... Its a pain in the hole if I'm honest.... I'm not refereeing to keep you happy..... Again some games can go flat out and be very entertaining, again that's not down to the referee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 03, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
Doesn't appear that you've too many people backing your argument Brocky so maybe you should consider why that might be the case
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 03, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
There are two ways to look at it brocky.... Do I call every free and appease everyone or do I let certain things go .... Which gets people slabbering mouthing off and hurling abuse at you??

Loughgiel and Cushendall games have become a lot more tetchy niggly games.... Someone leaves the stick in, pulls high ,  early and late.... Some scuffles .... Its a pain in the hole if I'm honest.... I'm not refereeing to keep you happy..... Again some games can go flat out and be very entertaining, again that's not down to the referee
At the extremes a hurler can take to the pitch happy to do his opponent some damage or stay on the pitch and play the game within the rules as we know them. Teams will have players who fall anywhere within this spectrum. What does the referee do? Read a players mind and estimate how "wicked" he's feeling today and clip him before he pulls the trigger.
While i am no fan of some of our referees, I respect the fact they are out there doing the job. Some are far from ideal but clubs and coaches have questions to answer.
Coaching dirt into a young players game as opposed to bravery and sacrifice. Players with a tendency for dirt in my experience are quite often burdened with fear of their own pain and/or fear of their own failure (note the selfishness, problem players always take things personally and have little concern for what is best for the team.). How did any of us who are coaches let that happen?
Clubs not committed to driving up coaching standards and setting standards generally throughout the club.
Lets shine the spot light here for a while, then we can get tore into the referees. :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 03, 2016, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
There are two ways to look at it brocky.... Do I call every free and appease everyone or do I let certain things go .... Which gets people slabbering mouthing off and hurling abuse at you??

Loughgiel and Cushendall games have become a lot more tetchy niggly games.... Someone leaves the stick in, pulls high ,  early and late.... Some scuffles .... Its a pain in the hole if I'm honest.... I'm not refereeing to keep you happy..... Again some games can go flat out and be very entertaining, again that's not down to the referee
At the extremes a hurler can take to the pitch happy to do his opponent some damage or stay on the pitch and play the game within the rules as we know them. Teams will have players who fall anywhere within this spectrum. What does the referee do? Read a players mind and estimate how "wicked" he's feeling today and clip him before he pulls the trigger.
While i am no fan of some of our referees, I respect the fact they are out there doing the job. Some are far from ideal but clubs and coaches have questions to answer.
Coaching dirt into a young players game as opposed to bravery and sacrifice. Players with a tendency for dirt in my experience are quite often burdened with fear of their own pain and/or fear of their own failure (note the selfishness, problem players always take things personally and have little concern for what is best for the team.). How did any of us who are coaches let that happen?
Clubs not committed to driving up coaching standards and setting standards generally throughout the club.
Lets shine the spot light here for a while, then we can get tore into the referees. :)

So there in lies the problem maybe... Coaches who were dirty players isn't a good thing!! Traditionally there are clubs were you hear the usual lines, take his fecking head off!! Get tore into him (not the ball!) and then there are other clubs where its all positive on the ball calls.... I know or lets say pre judge a game (which is probably wrong) before I head out of how its going to go, sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised, others I go, fecking knew it..... Games can go along swimmingly nothing bad, then one tackle starts a riot, and every tackle after that follows another mini riot!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 03, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 03, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
Doesn't appear that you've too many people backing your argument Brocky so maybe you should consider why that might be the case
I think I'm entitled to my opinion and it's still the same. He blew for too many frees.
Not an easy job to do in fairness but with experience you should improve!
Regarding coaching in loughgiel there's certainly no coaches telling our players to be dirty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 03, 2016, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on July 03, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 03, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
Doesn't appear that you've too many people backing your argument Brocky so maybe you should consider why that might be the case
I think I'm entitled to my opinion and it's still the same. He blew for too many frees.
Not an easy job to do in fairness but with experience you should improve!
Regarding coaching in loughgiel there's certainly no coaches telling our players to be dirty.
This is certainly true Brocky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 09:07:28 PM
Gone are the days of Tommy McIntyre & Frankie Quinn. Sadly a few refs these days get the whistle and want to be centre of the attention both on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 03, 2016, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on July 03, 2016, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: Brocky on July 03, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 03, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
Doesn't appear that you've too many people backing your argument Brocky so maybe you should consider why that might be the case
I think I'm entitled to my opinion and it's still the same. He blew for too many frees.
Not an easy job to do in fairness but with experience you should improve!
Regarding coaching in loughgiel there's certainly no coaches telling our players to be dirty.
This is certainly true Brocky.
I'd agree on that but wasnt always the case and before you start I am not singling Shamrocks in this regard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 09:07:28 PM
Gone are the days of Tommy McIntyre & Frankie Quinn. Sadly a few refs these days get the whistle and want to be centre of the attention both on and off the pitch.

Again different generation of players that maybe made it easier
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 10:40:39 PM
No doubt that's correct MR2. Attitudes of refs play a part to. A few of the current refs enjoy slabbering back to the players instead of disciplining them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 10:40:39 PM
No doubt that's correct MR2. Attitudes of refs play a part to. A few of the current refs enjoy slabbering back to the players instead of disciplining them.

That's very true, and its very difficult (regardless of being a ref or not) to not say something when someone questions your parentage in games ...

Impossible job, I actually don't mind doing it but sometimes you wonder why bother??? Nothing worse that some fat tosser behind the wire saying keep up with play!! I find it very hard not to say something

Players hit the ball a lot further and quicker than they did back in the day, players are bigger and balls are different nowadays!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 11:00:38 PM
I honestly don't know how some refs keep quiet. The abuse I've heard dished out to refs is shocking.

C'Dall won the Feis handy. They won't read much into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 04, 2016, 10:47:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 03, 2016, 10:40:39 PM
No doubt that's correct MR2. Attitudes of refs play a part to. A few of the current refs enjoy slabbering back to the players instead of disciplining them.

That's very true, and its very difficult (regardless of being a ref or not) to not say something when someone questions your parentage in games ...

Impossible job, I actually don't mind doing it but sometimes you wonder why bother??? Nothing worse that some fat t**ser behind the wire saying keep up with play!! I find it very hard not to say something

Players hit the ball a lot further and quicker than they did back in the day, players are bigger and balls are different nowadays!!


I've found that there's a mentality where some people have paid their £3 or £4 in and feel they can say whatever they like about the players and refrerees alike and its wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on July 04, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2016, 10:47:29 AM

I've found that there's a mentality where some people have paid their £3 or £4 in and feel they can say whatever they like about the players and refrerees alike and its wrong.

I agree, it is wrong.

Would it be fair to say that each club in Antrim has at least a couple of these 'fans' ? I would go as far and say each club in Ireland. I generalise them as the fat mouths, gobsh1tes, bully boys, who have an inflated notion of themselves within the club, but probably not the general community, rarely to be challenged by any club member, and who successive club committee members are scared of.
They will say (normally shout) what they want not just to the players and referee, but also to the officials, coaches, club committee members and other rival 'fans' who challenge their biased view equally vocally. Most of the issues seem to come from the various interpretations of the rules, to which there are surprisingly 4 sides; 2 clubs, 1 officials and what actually happened.
It seems to be a man thing, where they know the best way to sort it out , but is worrying for the club when many of the incidents take place in front of children and women, there can be no civil progress within a club when this is happening.
The 'abuse not tolerated' signs that appeared a few years ago on every pitch must have come from HQ direction, and put up by clubs with good intentions but no conviction. HQ could do more on this issue by massively increasing the knowledge of the rules for each and every gael in the country, not just officials, but coaches, players and the fans.
The social media growth will undoubtedly increase the awareness of this problem, as in recent years, more and more videos and pictures of unsavoury incidents go viral. Negative news seem to travel further than positive news in the GAA.

In my view, it's not really a county or HQ issue, it will only stop when clubs take responsibility for their mentors and supporters in-house with a bit of the above mentioned conviction. The committee members of every club in Ireland know who their 'fans' are, but on the whole, seem to choose to ignore this ongoing issue for various reasons. I will let someone else take over from here on as to why the clubs management ignore it...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2016, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: bogieman on July 04, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2016, 10:47:29 AM

I've found that there's a mentality where some people have paid their £3 or £4 in and feel they can say whatever they like about the players and refrerees alike and its wrong.

I agree, it is wrong.

Would it be fair to say that each club in Antrim has at least a couple of these 'fans' ? I would go as far and say each club in Ireland. I generalise them as the fat mouths, gobsh1tes, bully boys, who have an inflated notion of themselves within the club, but probably not the general community, rarely to be challenged by any club member, and who successive club committee members are scared of.
They will say (normally shout) what they want not just to the players and referee, but also to the officials, coaches, club committee members and other rival 'fans' who challenge their biased view equally vocally. Most of the issues seem to come from the various interpretations of the rules, to which there are surprisingly 4 sides; 2 clubs, 1 officials and what actually happened.
It seems to be a man thing, where they know the best way to sort it out , but is worrying for the club when many of the incidents take place in front of children and women, there can be no civil progress within a club when this is happening.
The 'abuse not tolerated' signs that appeared a few years ago on every pitch must have come from HQ direction, and put up by clubs with good intentions but no conviction. HQ could do more on this issue by massively increasing the knowledge of the rules for each and every gael in the country, not just officials, but coaches, players and the fans.
The social media growth will undoubtedly increase the awareness of this problem, as in recent years, more and more videos and pictures of unsavoury incidents go viral. Negative news seem to travel further than positive news in the GAA.

In my view, it's not really a county or HQ issue, it will only stop when clubs take responsibility for their mentors and supporters in-house with a bit of the above mentioned conviction. The committee members of every club in Ireland know who their 'fans' are, but on the whole, seem to choose to ignore this ongoing issue for various reasons. I will let someone else take over from here on as to why the clubs management ignore it...

Very true, and while clubs have a club ethos and code of conduct for everyone to adhere to, its not marshalled very well.. and you are right, EVERY CLUB has them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 04, 2016, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: bogieman on July 04, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2016, 10:47:29 AM

I've found that there's a mentality where some people have paid their £3 or £4 in and feel they can say whatever they like about the players and refrerees alike and its wrong.

I agree, it is wrong.

Would it be fair to say that each club in Antrim has at least a couple of these 'fans' ? I would go as far and say each club in Ireland. I generalise them as the fat mouths, gobsh1tes, bully boys, who have an inflated notion of themselves within the club, but probably not the general community, rarely to be challenged by any club member, and who successive club committee members are scared of.
They will say (normally shout) what they want not just to the players and referee, but also to the officials, coaches, club committee members and other rival 'fans' who challenge their biased view equally vocally. Most of the issues seem to come from the various interpretations of the rules, to which there are surprisingly 4 sides; 2 clubs, 1 officials and what actually happened.
It seems to be a man thing, where they know the best way to sort it out , but is worrying for the club when many of the incidents take place in front of children and women, there can be no civil progress within a club when this is happening.
The 'abuse not tolerated' signs that appeared a few years ago on every pitch must have come from HQ direction, and put up by clubs with good intentions but no conviction. HQ could do more on this issue by massively increasing the knowledge of the rules for each and every gael in the country, not just officials, but coaches, players and the fans.
The social media growth will undoubtedly increase the awareness of this problem, as in recent years, more and more videos and pictures of unsavoury incidents go viral. Negative news seem to travel further than positive news in the GAA.

In my view, it's not really a county or HQ issue, it will only stop when clubs take responsibility for their mentors and supporters in-house with a bit of the above mentioned conviction. The committee members of every club in Ireland know who their 'fans' are, but on the whole, seem to choose to ignore this ongoing issue for various reasons. I will let someone else take over from here on as to why the clubs management ignore it...


+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 04, 2016, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: bogieman on July 04, 2016, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 04, 2016, 10:47:29 AM

I've found that there's a mentality where some people have paid their £3 or £4 in and feel they can say whatever they like about the players and refrerees alike and its wrong.

I agree, it is wrong.

Would it be fair to say that each club in Antrim has at least a couple of these 'fans' ? I would go as far and say each club in Ireland. I generalise them as the fat mouths, gobsh1tes, bully boys, who have an inflated notion of themselves within the club, but probably not the general community, rarely to be challenged by any club member, and who successive club committee members are scared of.
They will say (normally shout) what they want not just to the players and referee, but also to the officials, coaches, club committee members and other rival 'fans' who challenge their biased view equally vocally. Most of the issues seem to come from the various interpretations of the rules, to which there are surprisingly 4 sides; 2 clubs, 1 officials and what actually happened.
It seems to be a man thing, where they know the best way to sort it out , but is worrying for the club when many of the incidents take place in front of children and women, there can be no civil progress within a club when this is happening.
The 'abuse not tolerated' signs that appeared a few years ago on every pitch must have come from HQ direction, and put up by clubs with good intentions but no conviction. HQ could do more on this issue by massively increasing the knowledge of the rules for each and every gael in the country, not just officials, but coaches, players and the fans.
The social media growth will undoubtedly increase the awareness of this problem, as in recent years, more and more videos and pictures of unsavoury incidents go viral. Negative news seem to travel further than positive news in the GAA.

In my view, it's not really a county or HQ issue, it will only stop when clubs take responsibility for their mentors and supporters in-house with a bit of the above mentioned conviction. The committee members of every club in Ireland know who their 'fans' are, but on the whole, seem to choose to ignore this ongoing issue for various reasons. I will let someone else take over from here on as to why the clubs management ignore it...

Very true indeed.
It's undoubtedly an issue that needs and can only tackled within clubs.
These characters need to be identified by their own club men and straightened out by their own club men. (And women  ;) )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 05, 2016, 09:46:36 AM
You get the gobshites at every match, at every level and every grade. Those who spend the game hanging on the wire passing their great knowledge on to everyone who has no option but to listen. Usually they never were worth an ouce in their day on the field and have contributed fuk all to their club other than bring it down.

With regards to skinny and his capabilities as a ref, obvioulsy we dont see him very much doing a match unless i travel to watch two other teams playing but any time ive seen him i have to be honest ive found him to be pretty good. Yes he does call some niggle wee things but he wouldnt be progressing up the levels unless he was a bad ref.

Ive found him to be similar to the rest of our top refs in anrtim and how they handle the game. As for this letting the game go caper, thats impossible. There will be the above gobshites from each side roaring at the ref to call them. He cant win ffs, he will be slated for something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 05, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
I agree with DR

Any time I've seen him referee I've been impressed with the way he stays up with play, allows and communicates advantage and protects players from dangerous play. A poacher turned game keeper some might say in that regard   :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 08, 2016, 01:11:14 PM
hardly think there is an Ulster final this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2016, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 08, 2016, 01:11:14 PM
hardly think there is an Ulster final this weekend.

I think the level of apathy from supporters reflects the season that was in it, levels of commitment from both Management and players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 08, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
Has the open top bus tour and the Monday session through the Glens not been pre booked?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 08, 2016, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 08, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
Has the open top bus tour and the Monday session through the Glens not been pre booked?

be a wean of years before its through the ards again..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PaudieSull1 on July 08, 2016, 06:00:04 PM
Big boast from a county with as many clubs as Clare etc.......Down hurling isn't in a great space but not sure Antrim should be throwing any stones given how far they have fallen.....Antrim are the only Ulster county with the playing numbers to be at a decent level but instead are a shambles relative to their potential......

As a collective in Ulster hurling we should be outside the Ulster offices in Armagh with burning brands and pitchforks as those f@ckers are being well paid to preside over the death of Ulster hurling.

- Armagh don't field in minor championship
- Derry refuse to play the play off in Ulster championship
- no Ulster team above Div 2A and no Ulster winner of Ring, Rackard, Meagher

We can poke fun at each other all we like but Ulster hurling is dying and we all continue to worry who will be kings of the dung heap instead of demanding action for the powers that be

Antrim will probably win the Ulster minor by 7/8 pts on Sunday but it will be f@ck all good to their development compared to a round robin in Leinster etc.....same for Down who at least will have a B All Ireland to fall back on unlike Derry.

We across the border can laugh all we like about the Christy Ring defeat for Antrim but it's a shallow laugh as just as a rising tide lifts all boats the demise of Antrim hurling is reflective of a wider death of the game across Ulster......forget about all the bull about u8blitzes and the like, what really matters is how many lads at 17/18 are playing the game and that is falling year after year.....we don't need more clubs but rather save and strengthen the clubs we have

Antrim hurling needs to recover quickly for the good of the game across Ulster as 2017 will be the 2nd year in a row without Liam Mc Carthy representation and next up will be changes at u21 and minor (soon to be u17)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 08, 2016, 07:05:32 PM
Big talk PS but I don't see too many solutions there in your post. Everyone can come on and give off but it's solutions that we need?

How do you propose we turn it around?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2016, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 08, 2016, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 08, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
Has the open top bus tour and the Monday session through the Glens not been pre booked?

be a wean of years before its through the ards again..

I'd say no one in the Ards gives a f**k about the Ulster championship, just like in the Glens.

Paudie,
.  If you don't do the spadework at U8 and so on, where do you expect these hurlers at U16 and minors to magically appear from? That short sightedness has seen manys a hurling club in Down to disappear ala Darragh Cross, with possibly Ballela struggling in the coming years.
Yes, there's issues in retaining hurlers through to minor and subsequently adult competitions and some of the decision making around development squads in Down can be detrimental in that. We'd a round of U16 games cancelled last week because there were U16's on a minor squad in Clare, earlier in the year we'd the very same issue with league fixtures shoe horned in because of U16's on an U17 development squad.
If we keep making 20 or 30 club hurlers stand aside to concentrate on the so called elite then we're screwing ourselves.
IMO an U17 development squad should be solely made up from lads in their last year at that level and so forth rather than cherry picking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: PaudieSull1 on July 09, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
Johnny......to be honest it was the clubs that didn't play the u16 fixtures nothing to do with the county so the clubs need to look at themselves there if they aren't willing to play without 1 or two lads, so not sure we should be pointing blame at the county


NAG no big talk but for a start I'd be looking that they have the open hurling forum that Martin McAvinney promised.....not a closed shop handpicked by Ulster but genuine open forum for hurling people facilitated by people from outside the province such as Paudie O Nelill, Liam Sheedy etc so we are least can give voice to everyone's frustrations

We then also need to clear strategy for our urban areas particularly Belfast but also Derry, Armagh, Newry, Omagh .....to be fair Dungannon have done some real good work and provide a solid template to copy at least at underage

Each existing hurling should be made create a development plan with the support of Croke and Ulster council including what is needed in terms of support to stabilise the club and then grow

At the end of the day we need to start somewhere and expecting different results from the same set of actions is the act of lunacy.....forget about county rivalry we all need to pull together or the game will be finished up here in 20 yrs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 09, 2016, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: PaudieSull1 on July 09, 2016, 12:42:38 PM
Johnny......to be honest it was the clubs that didn't play the u16 fixtures nothing to do with the county so the clubs need to look at themselves there if they aren't willing to play without 1 or two lads, so not sure we should be pointing blame the county.


I'm not blaming the county, I'm wondering on the rationale on having two U16's on a minor panel when this group of players have been on development squads for years. They shouldn't be needed.

Also, you're wondering why the club didn't play in a championship grading game against their biggest rivals minus their two best players and having to play two 13 year olds in their place, how detached are you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 10, 2016, 11:25:32 PM
Was there a match today?  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 11, 2016, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 10, 2016, 11:25:32 PM
Was there a match today?  :-X

yeah the Munster hurling final and the euro soccer final as well
why do you ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 11, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
Sambo and Woody have stepped down officially then, I wonder who'll be the next victim to take up the reigns, surely since it was well known that they were finishing after the Ulsters,  the County will have someone ready in the wings to appoint immediately? No?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 11, 2016, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: MoChara on July 11, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
Sambo and Woody have stepped down officially then, I wonder who'll be the next victim to take up the reigns, surely since it was well known that they were finishing after the Ulsters,  the County will have someone ready in the wings to appoint immediately? No?

No need to have any one in waiting, time to take stock and have conversations with a lot of people including players as to the best way forward for the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on July 11, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
I think we need a manager who has pedigree and good standing/reputation in Antrim.

For my money, i would go for Shane Elliott from Dunloy. He has played for Antrim and is doing wonders I'm Dunloy with their underage teams. I would let him pick his backroom team, but help him with the financial backing to get the appropriate strength and conditioning etc for the panel.

Also we need the players and the club's to commit to the county this year coming and we need joined up thinking between county senior, u21 and minor teams and club senior and minor teams.

Let's try to get this thing going again and try to get some pride and passion back in the county teams, this includes,  County board, players, clubs and fans!!

L
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2016, 04:17:01 PM
The person assigned as manager is becoming less important with each passing year as they'd need to be a miracle worker. Over the past few years we've seen players from the big clubs, players from the smaller clubs, various trainers and backroom staff and it's clear there has been no progress. The whole setup needs looked at another manager can't change it by himself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 11, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

Agree Shane Elliot is certainly worthy.
Have the talent? That's not quantifiable - I mean - talent for what?
Attitudes certainly need changing - but I think the inter club rivalry issue is vastly over-stated in terms of its role in our hurling fortunes.
All counties have internal rivalries and ours are no different.
It's a smokescreen to hide other short-comings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 11, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

Agree Shane Elliot is certainly worthy.
Have the talent? That's not quantifiable - I mean - talent for what?
Attitudes certainly need changing - but I think the inter club rivalry issue is vastly over-stated in terms of its role in our hurling fortunes.
All counties have internal rivalries and ours are no different.
It's a smokescreen to hide other short-comings.

Talent on the pitch, Cross & Passion getting to AI finals, have St Marys not competed in the last few years?

Agree inter club rivalry is part of the game but ours is almost toxic at times. We talk about the GAA family, not up here, we seem to take delight in people messing up instead of helping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 11, 2016, 11:23:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 11, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

Agree Shane Elliot is certainly worthy.
Have the talent? That's not quantifiable - I mean - talent for what?
Attitudes certainly need changing - but I think the inter club rivalry issue is vastly over-stated in terms of its role in our hurling fortunes.
All counties have internal rivalries and ours are no different.
It's a smokescreen to hide other short-comings.

Talent on the pitch, Cross & Passion getting to AI finals, have St Marys not competed in the last few years?

Agree inter club rivalry is part of the game but ours is almost toxic at times. We talk about the GAA family, not up here, we seem to take delight in people messing up instead of helping.

I wouldn't put any correlation between our schools results - and those of the county senior team.
Certainly we have a hardcore number of people that delight in failures - but that's the attitude thing for me - not club rivalry.
Overall I think we need to accept our levels & standards have dropped. Both in terms of the county team and club hurling.
Short term we need to get a senior hurling squad with players who have the correct attitude (even if not considered naturally most gifted hurlers) but longer term it's about (here I go again) increasing the broader base of players and club standard - that's the only thing will ultimately lift our county senior standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 13, 2016, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 11, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

Agree Shane Elliot is certainly worthy.
Have the talent? That's not quantifiable - I mean - talent for what?
Attitudes certainly need changing - but I think the inter club rivalry issue is vastly over-stated in terms of its role in our hurling fortunes.
All counties have internal rivalries and ours are no different.
It's a smokescreen to hide other short-comings.

Talent on the pitch, Cross & Passion getting to AI finals, have St Marys not competed in the last few years?

Agree inter club rivalry is part of the game but ours is almost toxic at times. We talk about the GAA family, not up here, we seem to take delight in people messing up instead of helping.

Whilst its great that CPC, St Louis and the Belfast teams do well from time to time in the schools competitions it should be noted that these are the second tier competitions.  If our schools entered the A grade competitions we would get the same tankings that our senior team would get against the Division 1 teams.

'We have the talent' is a sweeping statement.  I think we have the talent to compete with the lower tier Division 1B teams and that's about it.  I think we are a world away from competing with Division 1A teams and in my opinion that void will increase over the next 5 years rather than decrease.  I think part of our problem is that we still believe we belong at the top table when in reality (as recent results show) we've never been further away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 13, 2016, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

What evidence is there of this talent?  Loughgiel's All Ireland in 2012? Rossa and Creggan winning Intermediate and Junior?

From time to time we can produce a very good club team. That said, coming out of Ulster is a huge advantage for our clubs as we don't have to slog through a competitive championship a la Leinster or Munster before we get to a All Ireland semi final. Even then, we frequently get "surprised" by a Down or Derry team.

When was the last real "statement" result from the senior hurlers? Beating Dublin in 2010?

Apart from beating Wexford in the semi in 2013, our under 21s have never beaten anyone outside Ulster (afaik).

When have our minors ever won a championship game outside of Ulster - when they played in (and got to a final of) a Leinster championship in the 1970s?

Our schools regularly contest B All Ireland finals but there is no prospect of any of them going up to A and surviving at the minute.

Antrim hurling has many issues but (imho) one of the biggest is our over-inflated view of ourselves as a "hurling" county. Hence our attitude that we "should" beat Meath. Why should we presume to beat Meath? I have no idea but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Meath senior hurling championship has as many clubs as we have in ours and, moreover, a bigger spread of winners than we have had over the last 25 years.

By dint of our potential playing population, we have the prospect (if we got organised) of become competitive but I just don't see this huge pool of talent out there being held back by attitude and inter-club rivalry.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 13, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 13, 2016, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 11, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Shane Elliot is as good a shout as any, we need somebody like Alec Emerson in with him. Somebody who knows the game inside and out.

I don't care what anybody says, we have the talent, it's more attitudes and inter club rivalry we need to sort out.

What evidence is there of this talent?  Loughgiel's All Ireland in 2012? Rossa and Creggan winning Intermediate and Junior?

From time to time we can produce a very good club team. That said, coming out of Ulster is a huge advantage for our clubs as we don't have to slog through a competitive championship a la Leinster or Munster before we get to a All Ireland semi final. Even then, we frequently get "surprised" by a Down or Derry team.

When was the last real "statement" result from the senior hurlers? Beating Dublin in 2010?

Apart from beating Wexford in the semi in 2013, our under 21s have never beaten anyone outside Ulster (afaik).

When have our minors ever won a championship game outside of Ulster - when they played in (and got to a final of) a Leinster championship in the 1970s?

Our schools regularly contest B All Ireland finals but there is no prospect of any of them going up to A and surviving at the minute.

Antrim hurling has many issues but (imho) one of the biggest is our over-inflated view of ourselves as a "hurling" county. Hence our attitude that we "should" beat Meath. Why should we presume to beat Meath? I have no idea but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Meath senior hurling championship has as many clubs as we have in ours and, moreover, a bigger spread of winners than we have had over the last 25 years.

By dint of our potential playing population, we have the prospect (if we got organised) of become competitive but I just don't see this huge pool of talent out there being held back by attitude and inter-club rivalry.

Agree 100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 13, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
'if we get organised'

To me means 100s of coaches need to up their game (its not all about silverware... its about developing the required skills in young lads with the ultimate aim of them looking forward to playing on at senior level)
100's of hurlers need to dedicate a bit more and aspire to ultimately represent their club at senior. You'll never be a hurler going to one or two sessions a week
100's of parents need to stop treating GAA clubs as baby sitting service and push their kids to represent their club beyond 16-18
More people need to support their local club as well as their county teams
..........

Its the high levels of half heartedness (coaching/player attitude/parental support etc) which ultimately hits us and shrinks the talent pool. Thats a lot of organising. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 13, 2016, 05:10:55 PM
I think the last couple of years have solidly put to rest any arguments for me in terms of:
- we have the talent "but"
- we need to get organised
- attitude
- underage (and club  "succes"
For me it's just time we realised that our results are now a fair reflection of our standard.
We're a third tier league team - and Christy ring challengers.
This is our standard. Get with it.

Just heard woody's comments on the USHC.
He made the point of the fixture clashing with the Munster final every year.
Why?
Because Ulster council wouldn't have a precious football weekend clash or compete with the Munster final!

How are the club's getting on?
Must be mixture of holidays and eyes turning towards championship?
I'm back up north at the end of the month to catch up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2016, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 13, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
'if we get organised'

To me means 100s of coaches need to up their game (its not all about silverware... its about developing the required skills in young lads with the ultimate aim of them looking forward to playing on at senior level)
100's of hurlers need to dedicate a bit more and aspire to ultimately represent their club at senior. You'll never be a hurler going to one or two sessions a week
100's of parents need to stop treating GAA clubs as baby sitting service and push their kids to represent their club beyond 16-18
More people need to support their local club as well as their county teams
..........

Its the high levels of half heartedness (coaching/player attitude/parental support etc) which ultimately hits us and shrinks the talent pool. Thats a lot of organising.

Agree 100%. I think its something ive seen more and more since my involvement in underage coaching. Its only 3 years now and ive got my eyes open as to the amount of work that both needs to be done and work thats being done in order to continue the development of the youth.

As you say parents use the GAA now as a baby sitting service with many of those kids never going beyond U14 at times.

We have held an open coaching sessions now for all our under age camogs from U8 to U16 once every few weeks in which coaches in the club come along and give up an hour to work on the basics with groups of the girls. Its not much to me in terms of what could be done but to those kids it means the world and they love it. Ive had a fair few parents thank us for it and how much the kids are getting from it both in terms of coaching and fun.

If we can keep the majority there (and there was around 80 there previously) and still involved in the game up to adult level it will be something to keep building on.

All of that isn't achieved without hard work, good coaches and new coaches. As Skull says, its a lot of organising and if coaches/parents/players are coming to training with a half hearted approach then it will hit us in the long term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 14, 2016, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 14, 2016, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 13, 2016, 02:36:08 PM
'if we get organised'

To me means 100s of coaches need to up their game (its not all about silverware... its about developing the required skills in young lads with the ultimate aim of them looking forward to playing on at senior level)
100's of hurlers need to dedicate a bit more and aspire to ultimately represent their club at senior. You'll never be a hurler going to one or two sessions a week
100's of parents need to stop treating GAA clubs as baby sitting service and push their kids to represent their club beyond 16-18
More people need to support their local club as well as their county teams
..........

Its the high levels of half heartedness (coaching/player attitude/parental support etc) which ultimately hits us and shrinks the talent pool. Thats a lot of organising.

Agree 100%. I think its something ive seen more and more since my involvement in underage coaching. Its only 3 years now and ive got my eyes open as to the amount of work that both needs to be done and work thats being done in order to continue the development of the youth.

As you say parents use the GAA now as a baby sitting service with many of those kids never going beyond U14 at times.

We have held an open coaching sessions now for all our under age camogs from U8 to U16 once every few weeks in which coaches in the club come along and give up an hour to work on the basics with groups of the girls. Its not much to me in terms of what could be done but to those kids it means the world and they love it. Ive had a fair few parents thank us for it and how much the kids are getting from it both in terms of coaching and fun.

If we can keep the majority there (and there was around 80 there previously) and still involved in the game up to adult level it will be something to keep building on.

All of that isn't achieved without hard work, good coaches and new coaches. As Skull says, its a lot of organising and if coaches/parents/players are coming to training with a half hearted approach then it will hit us in the long term.
Not sure how you get around that one. I would say practically every supervised activity for children is used in this way by a lot of parents. It has the double-whammy of getting the wains involved in sports combined with giving parents time to go and do the messages.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Went to the league game last night between ourselves and Loughgiel. I cant rem a more boring encounter between ourselves and Lgiel in a senior game in a long time.

we were very very poor IMO from start to finish. Was very disappointed in our performance esp up front, i felt we offered no threat at all.

TBH both teams were far from their best. Neither keeper had anything of note to do other than puck the ball out such was the lack of penetration up front from either side. Lgiel took the scores when presented with the chances where as we over complicated it too many passes.

Im still convinced we wont win the championship this year, were lacking the players up front to make a difference. The defence is solid but its up front is the bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on July 14, 2016, 03:37:27 PM
In fairness the conditions were poor last night. There was a significant amount of water lying on the surface of the pitch in certain areas that made it difficult.

Have you many players to come into the team?

From the team that started for us last night there were a few missing who will be pushing for a place come Championship. The ones who spring to mind are DD, Tony, Odhran, Winker, Damon, Duck and James McNaughton. Obviously not everyone can start but I'd expect us to make a few changes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 14, 2016, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 14, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
Went to the league game last night between ourselves and Loughgiel. I cant rem a more boring encounter between ourselves and Lgiel in a senior game in a long time.

we were very very poor IMO from start to finish. Was very disappointed in our performance esp up front, i felt we offered no threat at all.

TBH both teams were far from their best. Neither keeper had anything of note to do other than puck the ball out such was the lack of penetration up front from either side. Lgiel took the scores when presented with the chances where as we over complicated it too many passes.

Im still convinced we wont win the championship this year, were lacking the players up front to make a difference. The defence is solid but its up front is the bother.

A lot of slow ball and wild clearances... the first touch for everyone was always going to be shit last night considering the conditions.... wouldn't read too much into it, Loughgiel took their score easier as you said and both defences were on top as you'd expect on a slow pitch...

Championship will bring out a different team for both, with a different intensity I'm sure

I'll take that 'boring' as a compliment  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2016, 04:14:05 PM
haha even the scuffle was poor lol

You did a good job last night and let the game flow well from start to finish esp when you consider the conditions and local rivalry between the sides. a good performance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on July 14, 2016, 03:37:27 PM
In fairness the conditions were poor last night. There was a significant amount of water lying on the surface of the pitch in certain areas that made it difficult.

Have you many players to come into the team?

From the team that started for us last night there were a few missing who will be pushing for a place come Championship. The ones who spring to mind are DD, Tony, Odhran, Winker, Damon, Duck and James McNaughton. Obviously not everyone can start but I'd expect us to make a few changes.

Obviously shorty hasnt played this year but hes getting back to a state where he can train with the team again which is nice to see. Nigel elliott was injured and kevin mcquillain is on holidays in the forward department. I dont see that being enough to push it our way, we will just have to wait to the current minors come in next year to the squad.

The only positive for me this year has been the emergence of Ryan Elliott into nets this season. hes just out of minor and has performed above what i thought he would so much so that many will see him as our keeper for the rest of his playing days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 15, 2016, 12:29:04 AM
DR, whatever happened to Cathoir Cunning? Is he hurt or retired?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on July 21, 2016, 10:50:22 PM
Reserve championship got started tonight with us v The Town
In a high scoring entertaining match which threatened to boil over on a few occasions but didn't thankfully. Any other matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 22, 2016, 11:31:58 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=258497

I am delighted to read this and hopefully something tangible comes of it.
If it's transpires it will be the something concrete rather than bluster that I spoke about.
Here's hoping we'll have something to pat the executive on the back for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 23, 2016, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 22, 2016, 11:31:58 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=258497

I am delighted to read this and hopefully something tangible comes of it.
If it's transpires it will be the something concrete rather than bluster that I spoke about.
Here's hoping we'll have something to pat the executive on the back for.

That really would be great news.

Pity about the minors today though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 24, 2016, 01:17:36 PM
Played with no belief and as result were second best in almost every sector
There's better capability in that panel
Shame
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 25, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Any updates on this weekends matches. Ourselves and Dall had good wins in Co down. And I see the town caused a bit of an upset beating dunloy - were teams at full strength
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 25, 2016, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: Brocky on July 25, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Any updates on this weekends matches. Ourselves and Dall had good wins in Co down. And I see the town caused a bit of an upset beating dunloy - were teams at full strength

St Johns V Rossa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2016, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: Brocky on July 25, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Any updates on this weekends matches. Ourselves and Dall had good wins in Co down. And I see the town caused a bit of an upset beating dunloy - were teams at full strength

we were missing a load of players and another 2 away after the game. All away to santa ponsa. think i counted around 9/10 of the panel away.

TBH i was pleased we only got beat by a point with that many missing. i was expecting a real hammering.

I think BC were missing a few as well. I know clarkey is away on hols so he wasnt playing.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 25, 2016, 01:44:10 PM
Will Cushendalls big guns be back for end of August for the championship. All is very quiet.
I hear shorty is training a bit. Will he be able for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2016, 04:39:17 PM
Hes training but not along with the players. Would be surprised if he featured at any stage the rest of the year. The lad needs the right time to come back so no point in playing for the sake of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 12:21:39 AM
I see a local journo getting it in the neck tonight from some Rossa lads on social media. Anybody care to shed some light on what happened? Accidental slap or dirty fly dig?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on July 27, 2016, 09:42:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 12:21:39 AM
I see a local journo getting it in the neck tonight from some Rossa lads on social media. Anybody care to shed some light on what happened? Accidental slap or dirty fly dig?

very bad stroke pulled in the middle of a bit of a scuffle, the scufle was handbags until that point imo but that stroke was one that noone wants to see on a hurling field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 09:53:14 AM
Saw the pictures of the injuries sustained, not nice at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on July 27, 2016, 10:05:02 AM
Disgraceful incident on Sunday night with serious injury to Rossa player and for the journo to write what he did and then  say he didn't actually see what happened is embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 27, 2016, 10:16:21 AM
I was thinking it all sounded quiet for that Derby. Bubbling up for championship and the johnnies looking like relegation looms.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?

Nope, Hasson did it I think, did it last year.. you need people with you for those games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 01:23:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?

Nope, Hasson did it I think, did it last year.. you need people with you for those games

Yes you do for sure. It will leave the championship fixture a tasty one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 27, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on July 27, 2016, 10:05:02 AM
Disgraceful incident on Sunday night with serious injury to Rossa player and for the journo to write what he did and then  say he didn't actually see what happened is embarrassing
Who wrote what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 01:23:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?

Nope, Hasson did it I think, did it last year.. you need people with you for those games

Yes you do for sure. It will leave the championship fixture a tasty one.
Ach I don't think it'll make any difference. Johnnies boys I spoke to were embarrassed about it. Barry won't be proud of it either and in fairness, it's not like him to pull a stroke like that. I'd say he'll apologise in person and it'll be forgotten about.

Was actually surprised when I heard he was the one,  never pulled him for a dirty stroke in any game I've ref'd nor see him do it either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on July 27, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?

Nope, Hasson did it I think, did it last year.. you need people with you for those games

dont think after last year you would be asked to reff it again  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on July 27, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 27, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
So this was the recent senior game?

Yeah Sunday, terrible match to referee, would only do it again with friends doing umpires ...

Did you do the game MR2?

Nope, Hasson did it I think, did it last year.. you need people with you for those games

dont think after last year you would be asked to reff it again  ;D ;D ;D ;D

no one died  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 28, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
went over the U21 match last night. was one of the poorest games ive seen in a long time. Neither team looked interested and to be fair the crowd was as dead as the game.

Decent turn out at the match and £5 in was a good fee in for a change. Its a pity the players didnt serve up a good game.

Worried for us in the semi final. i fear an almighty hammering judging by that performace.

Alex Delargy had a good game at midfield and Damon McMullan was solid in corner back. Like the look of that lad, hes got a lot of potential.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
The munster final was a serious standard. Waterford won by a bit but in saying that Gleeson lorded it and should have been sent off in the first half for striking. It wasn't much of a strike mind you but still a strike. That waterford team is seriously strong.

Is Christy McNaughton not u21? Where is McMullan from - he loughgiel?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 28, 2016, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
went over the U21 match last night. was one of the poorest games ive seen in a long time. Neither team looked interested and to be fair the crowd was as dead as the game.

Decent turn out at the match and £5 in was a good fee in for a change. Its a pity the players didnt serve up a good game.

Worried for us in the semi final. i fear an almighty hammering judging by that performace.

Alex Delargy had a good game at midfield and Damon McMullan was solid in corner back. Like the look of that lad, hes got a lot of potential.

Didn't get over but I heard it was a poor game
It looks like we are going backwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
I left at half time. Awful dire stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on July 28, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
The munster final was a serious standard. Waterford won by a bit but in saying that Gleeson lorded it and should have been sent off in the first half for striking. It wasn't much of a strike mind you but still a strike. That waterford team is seriously strong.

Is Christy McNaughton not u21? Where is McMullan from - he loughgiel?

Christy played, came on as a sub i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 28, 2016, 10:11:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
The munster final was a serious standard. Waterford won by a bit but in saying that Gleeson lorded it and should have been sent off in the first half for striking. It wasn't much of a strike mind you but still a strike. That waterford team is seriously strong.

Is Christy McNaughton not u21? Where is McMullan from - he loughgiel?

Waterford have a wealth of talent on the conveyor belt - the current crop at senior is just the beginning. The big factor will be if the belief of underage (and league) can bridge the gap to capture Liam McCarthy.

Quote from: paddyjohn on July 28, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
I left at half time. Awful dire stuff.
Quote from: Gizzy15 on July 28, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
The munster final was a serious standard. Waterford won by a bit but in saying that Gleeson lorded it and should have been sent off in the first half for striking. It wasn't much of a strike mind you but still a strike. That waterford team is seriously strong.

Is Christy McNaughton not u21? Where is McMullan from - he loughgiel?

Christy played, came on as a sub i think.
Quote from: Gizzy15 on July 28, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
The munster final was a serious standard. Waterford won by a bit but in saying that Gleeson lorded it and should have been sent off in the first half for striking. It wasn't much of a strike mind you but still a strike. That waterford team is seriously strong.

Is Christy McNaughton not u21? Where is McMullan from - he loughgiel?

Christy played, came on as a sub i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Where did the conveyor belt start?

Schools.....

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2016, 10:31:31 AM
Presumably clubs... That KK school seem to be the dominant one but it doesn't seem that often these days they win u21.(they won 5 of the last 7 u21) KK probably do well at minor more but they haven't been cleaning up and it certainly seems to be munster teams, occasionally galway, winning the u21.

Mind you it has had little bearing on senior thus far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 28, 2016, 10:36:07 AM
Damon McMullan is from Loughgiel. Tidy corner back esp under the dropping ball.

Is Eoghan Campbell and Ryan McCambridge not U21 as well? Christy wasnt listed as one of the subs, maybe im wrong.

Severe lack of interest in the county team in general. Its a pity as there was a decent crowd there to watch the game.

Paddyjohn i wouldnt blame you for leaving as it was pretty poor. i went home and watched the end of our senior footballers game and it was better entertainment in the 20mins i was there than that whole match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 28, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2016, 10:36:07 AM
Severe lack of interest in the county team in general. Its a pity as there was a decent crowd there to watch the game.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27219.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27219.0)

QuoteAnd it's not the fault of managers. Counties demand success and they react accordingly; but the going rate now for an intercounty player is total commitment to a project that eats your time and isolates you socially.
That's fine if you have realistic September or late August expectations but it can be seen how players with less successful counties are deciding there is no incentive to embrace such asceticism.

In the strong counties the have a stronger interest right across their counties population to the degree that its beneficial to have top county players working for you. Thats a big incentive for the top players to commit to the degree that they have to to compete at the top level. This of course is over and above the sheer enjoyment of playing intense matches in packed stadiums.

Sad to say that its easy to understand why IC participation isn't the be all and end all for people who love the game in this neck of the woods.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2016, 11:24:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2016, 10:36:07 AM
Damon McMullan is from Loughgiel. Tidy corner back esp under the dropping ball.

Is Eoghan Campbell and Ryan McCambridge not U21 as well? Christy wasnt listed as one of the subs, maybe im wrong.

Severe lack of interest in the county team in general. Its a pity as there was a decent crowd there to watch the game.

Paddyjohn i wouldnt blame you for leaving as it was pretty poor. i went home and watched the end of our senior footballers game and it was better entertainment in the 20mins i was there than that whole match.

High enough scoring going by the result on the website, that must be Dunloy safe now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 28, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
one more game should keep us up, home to Tir Na nOg, win it and we will be safe. Be a good end to a tough first year back up in Div2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 28, 2016, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2016, 01:50:26 PM
one more game should keep us up, home to Tir Na nOg, win it and we will be safe. Be a good end to a tough first year back up in Div2.

Aye, it's competitive. Sarsfields more or less away.

Sorry for clogging up the Hurling board lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on July 28, 2016, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 28, 2016, 10:36:07 AM
Damon McMullan is from Loughgiel. Tidy corner back esp under the dropping ball.

Is Eoghan Campbell and Ryan McCambridge not U21 as well? Christy wasnt listed as one of the subs, maybe im wrong.

Severe lack of interest in the county team in general. Its a pity as there was a decent crowd there to watch the game.

Paddyjohn i wouldnt blame you for leaving as it was pretty poor. i went home and watched the end of our senior footballers game and it was better entertainment in the 20mins i was there than that whole match.

Ryan mc c is away I think. Eoghan c isn't u21 and christy came on as a sub.
Wee Betty was good when brought out to the middle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 29, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Good win for ourselves in the Darragh Cup final against the town. Nothing for 20+ years at minor A and now that's 2 on the bounce.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 29, 2016, 11:59:34 PM
Good win for ourselves in the Darragh Cup final against the town. Nothing for 20+ years at minor A and now that's 2 on the bounce.
Well done Dunloy, certainly no fluke. Hope the boys bring a bit of heat to the senior panel now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Where did the conveyor belt start?

Schools.....

The approach to hurling in schools north & south is black and white but it's more complex than that.
- parents encourage kids/pupils
- coaches assigned from county not left to teachers
- funding from external sources
- meaningful competitions
The days of hero teachers driving hurling are no longer possible as their hands have been tied - it's a bigger picture now. The dynamic in schools have changed towards sports provision - hurling has not changed to take account of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 09:24:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Where did the conveyor belt start?

Schools.....

The approach to hurling in schools north & south is black and white but it's more complex than that.
- parents encourage kids/pupils
- coaches assigned from county not left to teachers
- funding from external sources
- meaningful competitions
The days of hero teachers driving hurling are no longer possible as their hands have been tied - it's a bigger picture now. The dynamic in schools have changed towards sports provision - hurling has not changed to take account of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 09:24:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Where did the conveyor belt start?

Schools.....

The approach to hurling in schools north & south is black and white but it's more complex than that.
- parents encourage kids/pupils
- coaches assigned from county not left to teachers
- funding from external sources
- meaningful competitions
The days of hero teachers driving hurling are no longer possible as their hands have been tied - it's a bigger picture now. The dynamic in schools have changed towards sports provision - hurling has not changed to take account of this.
A friend of mine on the board of governors of a North Belfast catchment school constantly laments the lack of interest by teachers in taking hurling and football teams. Most of them former players themselves. As any teacher who has had a job in the real world will tell you, for many of them it's a part time occupation where they manipulate the system to suit themselves. They have no concept of a days work.
Despite encouragement from the principal they simply can't be arsed. If CB bolstered by clubs dont step in, colleges hurling is on the decline,but with already stretched funds how sustainable is that..
Unless there is a dream team coming through of course, they'd all want into that photograph.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
See the Shamrocks vs Johnnies last night in the minor championship hasn't a result against it. I assume there's a reason why  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2016, 01:31:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
See the Shamrocks vs Johnnies last night in the minor championship hasn't a result against it. I assume there's a reason why  :-\

Shit reception in Loughgiel, might be in later :P.... Who was on duty??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 30, 2016, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: Last Man on July 30, 2016, 09:24:54 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 30, 2016, 09:14:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:44 AM
Where did the conveyor belt start?

Schools.....

The approach to hurling in schools north & south is black and white but it's more complex than that.
- parents encourage kids/pupils
- coaches assigned from county not left to teachers
- funding from external sources
- meaningful competitions
The days of hero teachers driving hurling are no longer possible as their hands have been tied - it's a bigger picture now. The dynamic in schools have changed towards sports provision - hurling has not changed to take account of this.
A friend of mine on the board of governors of a North Belfast catchment school constantly laments the lack of interest by teachers in taking hurling and football teams. Most of them former players themselves. As any teacher who has had a job in the real world will tell you, for many of them it's a part time occupation where they manipulate the system to suit themselves. They have no concept of a days work.
Despite encouragement from the principal they simply can't be arsed. If CB bolstered by clubs dont step in, colleges hurling is on the decline,but with already stretched funds how sustainable is that..
Unless there is a dream team coming through of course, they'd all want into that photograph.

I'm afraid you are way off the mark.
This is the difference I alluded to when I look at Waterford schools hurling.
Teachers are exactly that - teachers.
If you want hurling to progress via the schools - then hurling bodies like county boards etc must step in.
This has been realised long ago - especially in urban Dublin.
Expecting teachers have the resources or opportunity to bring schools hurling to a level that promotes the county game is quite frankly nonsense. Those days are gone, and long ago.
If you believe teachers can throw a tracksuit on after a day's work and waltz on to a hurling field with a wealth of resources to produce vibrant teams and competitions - then you are living so far in the past and away from reality - that I'm not surprised the Waterford's and Dublin are miles away from that thinking and hurling!

The Johnnies Loughgiel minor game sounds ominous :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.

Precisely. We should be grateful teachers give one second on top of their job towards hurling on top of their jobs not deriding them. We praise those for underage effort in clubs - a teacher giving up time is a greater sacrifice.
Would we be expected to stay late in work and clean the office windows?
I agree - the sacrifice of those you mention is fantastic effort.

But the reality is that looking to teachers to fulfill this hurling role is an abdication of the duty of hurling bodies! For too long they've stood aside or run a token blitz. If Antrim want schools to be hurling nurseries they must take it seriously themselves.
This has long been the case in other hurling counties and I'm baffled as to why anyone would think otherwise in Antrim of all places.

What is the anticipated outcome of the johnnies & shamrocks minor game situation?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.

Precisely. We should be grateful teachers give one second on top of their job towards hurling on top of their jobs not deriding them. We praise those for underage effort in clubs - a teacher giving up time is a greater sacrifice.
Would we be expected to stay late in work and clean the office windows?
I agree - the sacrifice of those you mention is fantastic effort.

But the reality is that looking to teachers to fulfill this hurling role is an abdication of the duty of hurling bodies! For too long they've stood aside or run a token blitz. If Antrim want schools to be hurling nurseries they must take it seriously themselves.
This has long been the case in other hurling counties and I'm baffled as to why anyone would think otherwise in Antrim of all places.

What is the anticipated outcome of the johnnies & shamrocks minor game situation?
I'll take a punt that you might be in some way aligned with St.Marys, CPC or possibly even St.Louis but my opinions come from a sub - elite hurling perspective. I see provision of GAA sport, in particular hurling in Co.Antrim catholic schools as part of their pastoral care provision. Why would GAA members within the school not look to promote the aims of the association? I just dont get it.
Lets say 15 weeks out of 40 week(approx) working year GAA men within our schools offered 3 hours a week to promoting hurling. Doesn't feel like much pain in my world especially if your vocation is to make a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2016, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2016, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.
Spot on. Mickey Dallat was one of the worst teachers in CPC and it was clear that teaching was near the bottom of the priority list, hurling and especially Mageean was top priority. Does anyone really think Herron, Kearney and Cassidy are there for their stellar teaching ability but they'll be good enough for good kids to get decent grades AND pick up some medals along the way.
You are papering over the cracks citing these examples. There are young players who's parents won't send them to these schools if they won't reach their potential academically. A substantial cohort not exposed to structured colleges hurling in their formative years. In reality what is happening now is that there is less chance of a young player with academic strength making it through to elite level.
Maybe that's part of the plan? who knows? a step down the road to professionalism??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 30, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
See the Shamrocks vs Johnnies last night in the minor championship hasn't a result against it. I assume there's a reason why  :-\

Heard this morning that the game was abandoned. Rumour is that Young McKenna struck out and a free for all started. Game was abandoned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
I'm sure Mickey Dallat will be chuffed to bits Tony  ;D

Schools GAA offers kids a opportunity to compete along with school mates who play with other clubs. If the talent's there, the kids themselves sense the opportunity and can get a lot from the competitions played especially if the can get down south and compete well there. This is particularly important for talented kids from 'weaker' clubs or who play for weak teams and can be great to part of something positive and sustain their interest. Having a strong senior school team creates a great vibe in a school. It was certainly the case with St Louis and I'm sure effect is not lost on the school management team.

If the talents not there, I don't believe schools in general are particularly good at developing skills/confidence in weak players and make them better as a result of the coaching that takes place there. Thats left very much to the clubs. So a bit like a county team, a school benefits from the quality of coaching delivered by clubs. A committed club coach needs to do 3-4 times as much with a player (most of it improving technique) so its easy to work out, time and effort reaps rewards (if the motivation is there to keep at it)

What last man is talking about is a school that regardless of the talent there will do didily squat with them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 31, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.

Precisely. We should be grateful teachers give one second on top of their job towards hurling on top of their jobs not deriding them. We praise those for underage effort in clubs - a teacher giving up time is a greater sacrifice.
Would we be expected to stay late in work and clean the office windows?
I agree - the sacrifice of those you mention is fantastic effort.

But the reality is that looking to teachers to fulfill this hurling role is an abdication of the duty of hurling bodies! For too long they've stood aside or run a token blitz. If Antrim want schools to be hurling nurseries they must take it seriously themselves.
This has long been the case in other hurling counties and I'm baffled as to why anyone would think otherwise in Antrim of all places.

What is the anticipated outcome of the johnnies & shamrocks minor game situation?
I'll take a punt that you might be in some way aligned with St.Marys, CPC or possibly even St.Louis but my opinions come from a sub - elite hurling perspective. I see provision of GAA sport, in particular hurling in Co.Antrim catholic schools as part of their pastoral care provision. Why would GAA members within the school not look to promote the aims of the association? I just dont get it.
Lets say 15 weeks out of 40 week(approx) working year GAA men within our schools offered 3 hours a week to promoting hurling. Doesn't feel like much pain in my world especially if your vocation is to make a difference.

You need to change your thinking on schools hurling - your traditional view (like mine) might be one of the old Christian Brothers or stalwart teacher and hurling promotion etc.
Schools are different organisation nowadays - and teaching is a different job
Personally my nephews are at two different Belfast post-primary schools.
And I compare this to my experience and friends in Waterford.
Look at your points this way;
- don't link the GAA to Catholic schools, it demeans our games.
- GAA members who are teachers may well wish to promote the aims of the association - as I said before it as been taken away from them to a great extent. Not their choice!
- Pastoral care in schools is such a deep legal issue - hurling is not part of it. Sport is extra-curricular.
- 3hours per week you mentioned, my partner teaches and hasn't the time to deliver adequate lessons in many instances. Yet you think 3hours per week is getting plucked out of thin air. What about the time they already spend in their club and their family on top of their job. Suppose someone put 3 hours per week on your job? Just think about it.
- The vocation is to make a difference? Yes, but making a difference in education - not hurling.

But all of this misses the real point.
We are talking about hurling here - not teachers!
We have people in specific roles and responsibilities to promote hurling - hell we have people actually paid to do it!
So by for some baffling reason pushing teachers on it - why don't we get those who are actually paid to do the job to do it!
This is where Waterford and Dublin models (that I know of) differ so much.
Get the County bodies and paid coaches to get into the schools - then you can talk about hurling and time spent and promotion of the aims! I fail to understand what's complicated - other hurling counties have long since went down this road. I took a day off work last year to go watch the Godson hurling. It turned out it was a blitz in Boucher Road where they played the same teams over and over again - no medals, no referees - but a certain individual paid to run this?! This was promoting schools hurling?!
This is the real focus - or should be - of driving hurling development in schools! It's as plain as day!

So when we talk about promoting schools - lets get the focus right.
And on that point - my original post actually referred to primary schools ;D
By after the age of 11 I think the ship has sailed for many!

By the way Tony Baloney - I'm not sure Dallat or Cassidy will be impressed by your evaluation of their teaching ability! ;D

I'm back north for the next fortnight and hoping to see some games - and then back for more championship fixtures.
Things don't look good at Corrigan in either the results or minor & senior discipline front - how's that going to progress PaddyJohn?
It will be interesting to see who is on the pitch come the Dall's defence of the volunteer cup. Where will the biggest challenge come from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2016, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 31, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: Saffron71 on July 31, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Teachers can't be arsed taking hurling after school you say? Tell that to the PE staff in CPC and St Mary's.  Winning a mageean means more to some of them than their pupils achieving high A level and GCSE results.  Therefore these teachers devote more of their time into taking hurling sometimes than to their teaching of exam PE.  If you say there is no passion for taking hurling after school then your wrong.

Precisely. We should be grateful teachers give one second on top of their job towards hurling on top of their jobs not deriding them. We praise those for underage effort in clubs - a teacher giving up time is a greater sacrifice.
Would we be expected to stay late in work and clean the office windows?
I agree - the sacrifice of those you mention is fantastic effort.

But the reality is that looking to teachers to fulfill this hurling role is an abdication of the duty of hurling bodies! For too long they've stood aside or run a token blitz. If Antrim want schools to be hurling nurseries they must take it seriously themselves.
This has long been the case in other hurling counties and I'm baffled as to why anyone would think otherwise in Antrim of all places.

What is the anticipated outcome of the johnnies & shamrocks minor game situation?
I'll take a punt that you might be in some way aligned with St.Marys, CPC or possibly even St.Louis but my opinions come from a sub - elite hurling perspective. I see provision of GAA sport, in particular hurling in Co.Antrim catholic schools as part of their pastoral care provision. Why would GAA members within the school not look to promote the aims of the association? I just dont get it.
Lets say 15 weeks out of 40 week(approx) working year GAA men within our schools offered 3 hours a week to promoting hurling. Doesn't feel like much pain in my world especially if your vocation is to make a difference.

You need to change your thinking on schools hurling - your traditional view (like mine) might be one of the old Christian Brothers or stalwart teacher and hurling promotion etc.
Schools are different organisation nowadays - and teaching is a different job
Personally my nephews are at two different Belfast post-primary schools.
And I compare this to my experience and friends in Waterford.
Look at your points this way;
- don't link the GAA to Catholic schools, it demeans our games. I mean this in the loosest possible sense, where the school population is not generally hostile to GAA
- GAA members who are teachers may well wish to promote the aims of the association - as I said before it as been taken away from them to a great extent. Not their choice! I can only reference a local example where a principal has encouraged greater engagement by qualified staff, even incentives but to no avail. I accept this may not be universal
- Pastoral care in schools is such a deep legal issue - hurling is not part of it. Sport is extra-curricular. The ethos of the GAA is not exclusively sporting and should not be promoted as such. how about schools promoting work/life balance, how pupils can use sport to escape the stresses of study in a structured way. Promoting the value of volunteerism, team work, community activism.
- 3hours per week you mentioned, my partner teaches and hasn't the time to deliver adequate lessons in many instances. Yet you think 3hours per week is getting plucked out of thin air. What about the time they already spend in their club and their family on top of their job. Suppose someone put 3 hours per week on your job? Just think about it. Nationally employed Inter county players more often than not work in education, are all the other teachers carrying those guys? I suppose the old adage may still appy."If you want something done ask the busiest man"
- The vocation is to make a difference? Yes, but making a difference in education - not hurling. Have a look at any school web site and how they place so much emphasis on pastoral care, look it up, hurling/GAA can clearly be part of this. However many teachers are not fulfilling their vocation in this area

But all of this misses the real point.
We are talking about hurling here - not teachers! Many teachers could do more, thats my opinion.
We have people in specific roles and responsibilities to promote hurling - hell we have people actually paid to do it!Yes we do but schools dont give a shite nor do Teachers promote it from within, how will any traction be gained otherwise
So by for some baffling reason pushing teachers on it - why don't we get those who are actually paid to do the job to do it!
This is where Waterford and Dublin models (that I know of) differ so much.
Get the County bodies and paid coaches to get into the schools - then you can talk about hurling and time spent and promotion of the aims! I fail to understand what's complicated - other hurling counties have long since went down this road. I took a day off work last year to go watch the Godson hurling. It turned out it was a blitz in Boucher Road where they played the same teams over and over again - no medals, no referees - but a certain individual paid to run this?! This was promoting schools hurling?!
This is the real focus - or should be - of driving hurling development in schools! It's as plain as day!

So when we talk about promoting schools - lets get the focus right.
And on that point - my original post actually referred to primary schools ;D
By after the age of 11 I think the ship has sailed for many!

By the way Tony Baloney - I'm not sure Dallat or Cassidy will be impressed by your evaluation of their teaching ability! ;D

I'm back north for the next fortnight and hoping to see some games - and then back for more championship fixtures.
Things don't look good at Corrigan in either the results or minor & senior discipline front - how's that going to progress PaddyJohn?
It will be interesting to see who is on the pitch come the Dall's defence of the volunteer cup. Where will the biggest challenge come from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 09:34:54 PM
Sounds to me your issue is with teachers ;D
They are a crabbed enough lot with you telling them their job.
Stick to the hurling agenda.

Some radio silence on the johnnies v loughgiel minor game  :-[
Not good from any perspective.

Anyone any thoughts on the senior championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 09:34:54 PM
Sounds to me your issue is with teachers ;D
They are a crabbed enough lot with you telling them their job.
Stick to the hurling agenda.

Some radio silence on the johnnies v loughgiel minor game  :-[
Not good from any perspective.

Anyone any thoughts on the senior championship?

Jesus lad, just tell us what happened that you know without dancing round it??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
It's amazing what you can hear in the chippy on a Sunday evening. One neutral described it "as a disgrace but sure the johnnies get away with everything now Donnelly is in charge"..

As far as the senior championship goes, I think it's going to run the same last the last few years and it'll be Cushendall or Loughiel. Not sure how Cushendall will cope without McManus, Shane & Graffin. Is Martin Burke fit again? also Karl McKeegan & Natty are 2 big misses off the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 09:34:54 PM
Sounds to me your issue is with teachers ;D
They are a crabbed enough lot with you telling them their job.
Stick to the hurling agenda.

Some radio silence on the johnnies v loughgiel minor game  :-[
Not good from any perspective.

Anyone any thoughts on the senior championship?

Jesus lad, just tell us what happened that you know without dancing round it??

To be honest I know nothing 'cos the Johnnies lads can't even seem to agree on their version of events!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on July 31, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
It's amazing what you can hear in the chippy on a Sunday evening. One neutral described it "as a disgrace but sure the johnnies get away with everything now Donnelly is in charge"..

As far as the senior championship goes, I think it's going to run the same last the last few years and it'll be Cushendall or Loughiel. Not sure how Cushendall will cope without McManus, Shane & Graffin. Is Martin Burke fit again? also Karl McKeegan & Natty are 2 big misses off the bench.

If Cushendall are not at pretty much full strength the door is wide open?
Shamrocks main contenders?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 10:27:04 PM
You'd imagine so. Dunloy maybe to young & I can't see Ballycastle repeating last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 31, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
So what happened in the minor game then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 11:00:22 PM
Don't know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2016, 11:49:41 PM
Heard lots of 2nd hand stories

No smoke without fire is my thinking

Heard one story about one player having to jump the wire to get his stick and getting a hiding

I'll leave it to the officials to teach offenders a lesson. Antrim same as every county needs integrity when it comes to poor discipline.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 31, 2016, 11:53:34 PM
2nd time inside a week the corrigan men have been involved in an incident that ended with serious injury of an opposing player. Maybe they are pushing the boundaries thinking they will get off with it.

I've no axe to grind with them but punishments must be handed out to those involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 09:08:46 AM
Loughgiels Twitter feed posted this at half time

HT MHC Loughgiel 1-5 St. John's 2-3

Match delayed due to injury to St Johns player, we wish him a speedy recovery !

Wonder if there was deemed malice in the injury to the Johnnies player that created an intent in the second half for retribution?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 01, 2016, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 09:08:46 AM
Loughgiels Twitter feed posted this at half time

HT MHC Loughgiel 1-5 St. John's 2-3

Match delayed due to injury to St Johns player, we wish him a speedy recovery !

Wonder if there was deemed malice in the injury to the Johnnies player that created an intent in the second half for retribution?

From what I have heard and not saying it is gospel the injury was a separate to other incident/s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 09:27:34 AM
Decent game of hurling vs the dall last night. Beat by 6 which I'd say was a fair result although we did create 3 or 4 goal chances they snuffed them out very well. We gave everything in effort which is great to see but with crisper hurlers across their 15 who collectively made less unforced errors and better decision making, that made the difference between the sides.
Dall have a great blend of youth and experience in their team and look none the worse for being without their men who are abroad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 01, 2016, 02:05:18 PM
Tony Baloney's comment about Micky Dallat is a disgrace. When I was at CPC he was the best teacher in the place. The amount of time and effort he put into taking teams was also superb. A great man all round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on August 01, 2016, 02:24:32 PM
First time in nearly a month being on this board - read one particular comment about Mr Dallat that I can't let lie without responding. I make no secret my identity on here as a few of you can vouch for.

Mr Dallat was a brilliant teacher who gave 35 years of outstanding service to CPC - pastorally he was on a different level and as a teacher he achieved outstanding results - his A level maths class nominated him for teacher of the year in 2010 and he was given this award for whole of UK. The number of pupils in north Antrim catchment area who speak so highly of him is immeasurable

And as for his contribution to hurling development in the area - speaks for itself - he lit my flame when I entered CPC as a young teacher and served as a role model for all us and his legacy will live for many years to come.

An outstanding man with integrity pouring out of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 02:45:28 PM
I think thats put that to bed.

Tony mustn't have been good at the sums and blamed it all on 'the teach'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 01, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 09:27:34 AM
Decent game of hurling vs the dall last night. Beat by 6 which I'd say was a fair result although we did create 3 or 4 goal chances they snuffed them out very well. We gave everything in effort which is great to see but with crisper hurlers across their 15 who collectively made less unforced errors and better decision making, that made the difference between the sides.
Dall have a great blend of youth and experience in their team and look none the worse for being without their men who are abroad.

Yeah Cdall took their scores when presented with them. We missing some easy scores including 3 frees which didnt help. Created good goal chances but didnt put them away. Young Keelan Molloy played well in his first start, not sure what he finished with but he will only get better as he continues to develop as a player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 01, 2016, 06:07:48 PM
Havent been looking on here in a while and got to row in behind Cromagh and JJ about Mickey Dallat. Mickey was a brilliant teacher never mind his coaching ability which was I would say was away ahead of his time. For someone to come on here and make a comment like that is a disgrace.

Tony, if you were at CPC you must not have been taught by him and if you weren't at CPC your not in a position to comment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 01, 2016, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 01, 2016, 02:45:28 PM
I think thats put that to bed.

Tony mustn't have been good at the sums and blamed it all on 'the teach'
1/3 of that statement is correct. ;) I must remember to never have an opinion that differs from others...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 01, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
After reading the responses I admit I was out of order naming individuals and I will delete my original comment. Point taken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 01, 2016, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 01, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
After reading the responses I admit I was out of order naming individuals and I will delete my original comment. Point taken.

Fair enough.  I'll delete my comment too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
St Galls are hosting West Belfast Talks GAA at the clubs rooms on Monday evening at 7.45pm as part of the festival... our guest speakers will be Paraic Duffy, Donegal ex player Devenney, Sambo and Pete McGrath ... Obviously plenty to talk about with Casement, player welfare, hurling and football well covered
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Have all of our Loughgiel friends gone on holiday at the one time?   ;)

Still no report into the goings on in the minor game vs St Johns?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Have all of our Loughgiel friends gone on holiday at the one time?   ;)

Still no report into the goings on in the minor game vs St Johns?

Somethings better left alone from what I can gather.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Have all of our Loughgiel friends gone on holiday at the one time?   ;)

Still no report into the goings on in the minor game vs St Johns?

Somethings better left alone from what I can gather.

So some things are fair to be talked about but when it doesnt suit then the discussion is off the table?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 04, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Have all of our Loughgiel friends gone on holiday at the one time?   ;)

Still no report into the goings on in the minor game vs St Johns?

Somethings better left alone from what I can gather.

So some things are fair to be talked about but when it doesnt suit then the discussion is off the table?

Quiet down there NAG it's all being sorted out. Quietly  :) :) :)
Big win for the Johnnies last night at least - some hope of survival now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Have all of our Loughgiel friends gone on holiday at the one time?   ;)

Still no report into the goings on in the minor game vs St Johns?

Somethings better left alone from what I can gather.

So some things are fair to be talked about but when it doesnt suit then the discussion is off the table?

Seems to be the case in this instance. If it suits those lads from clubs involved, then don't talk about it. Personally I think it should be discussed saying everything other incident has been flogged to death on here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jeremiah on August 04, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
Anybody able to confirm for sure what the scenario is for relegation from division 1 this year?

1 down?
2 down?
2nd bottom into a play off?
Change the structure when the wrong team gets relegated?

Any reports from Rossa and loughgiel last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 02:48:31 PM
Quote from: jeremiah on August 04, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
Anybody able to confirm for sure what the scenario is for relegation from division 1 this year?

1 down?
2 down?
2nd bottom into a play off?
Change the structure when the wrong team gets relegated?

Any reports from Rossa and loughgiel last night?

No reports from Loughiel on any matches this season. It's like the twilight zone lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 04, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
Loughgiel player had his stick flung over the wire on the Dunloy side by a St Johns player... He went out through the gate (beside the St Johns subs bench ) to get it and got a stick driven into him by a sub/'player out for the season' as he came back through the gate .....  and a shomozzle kicked off. 

Loughgiel supporters jumped the wire and ran across the field at that point.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 04, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
Loughgiel player had his stick flung over the wire on the Dunloy side by a St Johns player... He went out through the gate (beside the St Johns subs bench ) to get it and got a stick driven into him by a sub/'player out for the season' as he came back through the gate .....  and a shomozzle kicked off. 

Loughgiel supporters jumped the wire and ran across the field at that point.

Certainly seems to be agreement on that's what started the whole thing.
I've heard some variations on what happened there after.
For example - at what points the loughgiel crowd encroached the pitch, at what point the referee abandoned the game, and whether any St. John's crowd entered the pitch.

So what happens next?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 04, 2016, 06:00:44 PM
I can't comment on the incident as I wasn't at it.  It'll surely be in the referees report and any punishment given out after it has been assessed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 04, 2016, 06:17:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
Loughgiel player had his stick flung over the wire on the Dunloy side by a St Johns player... He went out through the gate (beside the St Johns subs bench ) to get it and got a stick driven into him by a sub/'player out for the season' as he came back through the gate .....  and a shomozzle kicked off. 

Loughgiel supporters jumped the wire and ran across the field at that point.

Wasn't at the game but that's what I heard happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2016, 06:32:08 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 04, 2016, 02:49:18 PM
Loughgiel player had his stick flung over the wire on the Dunloy side by a St Johns player... He went out through the gate (beside the St Johns subs bench ) to get it and got a stick driven into him by a sub/'player out for the season' as he came back through the gate .....  and a shomozzle kicked off. 

Loughgiel supporters jumped the wire and ran across the field at that point.

Think we'll need bigger fences....

So going by the last match the Johnnies were in that was abandoned they should get through to the next round  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 04, 2016, 08:12:45 PM
Likely.. Don't think the whole game went well. Ref turned up with no umpires, from what I can hear words were spoken between 2 of them and the ref had to keep an eye on those aswell as 30 players plus subs plus mentors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on August 04, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
First mistake is the game was started again after the ambulance left  (at least a 40 minute stoppage) Still 14 mins of the first half to be played and it was starting to get dark. At the end when it was abandoned I couldn't tell you what happened on the far side as it was too dark.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: Brocky on August 04, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
First mistake is the game was started again after the ambulance left  (at least a 40 minute stoppage) Still 14 mins of the first half to be played and it was starting to get dark. At the end when it was abandoned I couldn't tell you what happened on the far side as it was too dark.

That is definitely up there with an Wenger type comment  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on August 04, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
Wouldn't know what that means but typical from you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2016, 11:13:45 PM
Quote from: Brocky on August 04, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
Wouldn't know what that means but typical from you.

"I didn't see it I will have to look at it again on the replay"

;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on August 05, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
NAG1 you're correct. I've just watched the replay. It was all St John's fault!! I'll post the video later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 08, 2016, 10:03:40 AM
Devastated in one way that Waterford didn't get the win yesterday - but I wouldn't be so sure of people saying they've missed the boat. So many good players and a big performance to boost confidence and belief. Kilkenny have another big job on their hands next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 08, 2016, 10:46:44 AM
Wrong thread btdtgtt

Thought there might have been a double south west upset last night in Dunloy in the intermediate and senior championship.

After being nip and tuck the whole way through Div 3 leaders Tír Na nÓg , produced a real purple patch in the last 10 minutes of extra time to win by 6 in the end against favorites Carey. Some of the scores they took in poor conditions in that last 10 were top drawer. Thought it was a really well fought championship game and the best game of the two on show. Credit to the likes of 'Sam' Martin who has kept the love of the game strong in their club for years.

In the senior game Clooney gave the town their fill of it (albeit with the aid of the breeze) and went in at half time 4 up missing a great goal chance as well in the half, but the wind pretty much literally went out of their sails 5-10 minutes after the restart and handed Ballycastle a handy enough win in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 08, 2016, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 08, 2016, 10:46:44 AM
Wrong thread btdtgtt

Thought there might have been a double south west upset last night in Dunloy in the intermediate and senior championship.

After being nip and tuck the whole way through Div 3 leaders Tír Na nÓg , produced a real purple patch in the last 10 minutes of extra time to win by 6 in the end against favorites Carey. Some of the scores they took in poor conditions in that last 10 were top drawer. Thought it was a really well fought championship game and the best game of the two on show. Credit to the likes of 'Sam' Martin who has kept the love of the game strong in their club for years.

In the senior game Clooney gave the town their fill of it (albeit with the aid of the breeze) and went in at half time 4 up missing a great goal chance as well in the half, but the wind pretty much literally went out of their sails 5-10 minutes after the restart and handed Ballycastle a handy enough win in the end.

The odds could have been upset further on Saturday evening if Armoy hadve got their tactics right with the wind in their backs in the 2nd half. One they definitely let slip imo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 08, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
The South West push on hurling at senior level seems to have stalled with Clooney Gaels and Creggan struggling slightly.

Is this due to lack of numbers or has the rapid rise lead to a bit of levelling off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
The South West push on hurling at senior level seems to have stalled with Clooney Gaels and Creggan struggling slightly.

Is this due to lack of numbers or has the rapid rise lead to a bit of levelling off?

Id say their best 15 would be very good, but being dual clubs and smaller numbers they will have more injuries, which has an effect on their ability to push on and progress at senior level..

a bitta both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on August 08, 2016, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2016, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 08, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
The South West push on hurling at senior level seems to have stalled with Clooney Gaels and Creggan struggling slightly.

Is this due to lack of numbers or has the rapid rise lead to a bit of levelling off?

Id say their best 15 would be very good, but being dual clubs and smaller numbers they will have more injuries, which has an effect on their ability to push on and progress at senior level..

a bitta both
Considering that we are a small club, we are at a point (league status Div 2) whereby we need more hurling focused players and less dual players to push forward,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 08, 2016, 01:37:37 PM
the lack of constant flow of kids in Cloney playing the games hampers their ability to keep producing players.Its a small parish and they have always had small numbers with no underage teams of their own they rely on them developing at other clubs or in an amalgamation.

Football will always be the main game in the south west but its nice to see the push put onto hurling. Tir Na Og scored some fine points esp the last score from the right half back which was a peach. Carey seemed to lose the fight in them when Randalstown went 4 up and started to hammer long balls up the pitch which was cleaned up every time.

I though Cloney played well for the whole game, they didnt give ballycastle much space in the first half and deservely lead at HT. As the game wore on Ballycastle overall game and stick work was the difference. Scored some fine points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
Creggan not fielding tonight against Glenariffe due to football championship on Friday apparently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the wee man1 on August 11, 2016, 02:55:20 PM
They have senior football championship v Ahoghill on Friday - going by the county antrim website Ahoghill played their match v St Galls last night.  I would have thought their match wouldn't have been scheduled 2 days before a championship game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 11, 2016, 08:00:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
Creggan not fielding tonight against Glenariffe due to football championship on Friday apparently

Looking at the league table, Creggan will do well to avoid relegation. Difficult situation to be in. Playing senior cship and relegated to division 3 potentially.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 12, 2016, 08:02:42 AM


By David Mohan
GAA Director General, Paraic Duffy has said Central Council are keen to help with the development of Gaelic Games in Antrim provided the county develops a viable strategy. The Monaghan native was speaking at the Féile an Phobail GAA Talk Night at St Gall's on Monday where he formed part of a panel that included ex-Antrim hurler and manager, Terence McNaughton, current Fermanagh football boss Pete McGrath and former Donegal footballer, Brendan Devenney.

Over two hours, the lively debate touched upon a number of pressing matters of the day in Gaelic Games, but the healthy crowd were of course keen to hear what plans there are to revive Antrim who have been in the doldrums for quite some time.

The Director General – accepted as the most important figure in the Association – confirmed it is the GAA's intention to help develop hurling and football in Ireland's second city but would not just be writing a 'blank cheque'.

"Belfast is our second city so in GAA terms it's absolutely major and the state of the GAA in the city is vitally important for the GAA," he said. "We showed what can be done in a large city with what we have done in Dublin over the last 20 years and the increase in participation, so we need to do the same in Belfast.

"There is a new County Board in this year and they have inherited a number of issues. We are ready to put funding into developing the GAA in Belfast, but it's not a blank cheque. It has to be backed up by a plan and one that is viable. The County Board will develop this plan and when they do, we will sit down with them and the Ulster Council.

"It's not just a case of writing a cheque and saying 'there's a couple hundred thousand for new coaches'. It has to be part of a cohesive plan to build and get stronger. I think we can do that and that's part of the challenge."

On the hurling front, things have been in decline for a number of years with the county's senior team now plying its trade in the second tier of the Championship and third tier in the League, while apart from the All-Ireland U21 final appearance of 2013, there has been little to shout about underage.

Things are particularly worrying in the city with just two Antrim titles being won by city teams in over 25 years and McNaughton said that while things need to change, perhaps the solution is closer to home than many believe.

"If you look at Cushendall and a population of 1400, we did a survey a few months ago," he began.

"There are 44 primary schools in greater West Belfast, boys aged 5-11 and there are over 8000 (children). Out of that there are 300 involved in clubs. "People ask why in Cushendall we are doing so well. It's because we have to work so hard.

"I know West Belfast has its own disadvantages and all that there, but this is 2016 and the same problems exist in Cushendall too. My problem is that if you look at West Belfast, one club (Rossa) has won two Antrim Championships in the last 28 years, that means North Antrim has won the rest. "The problem is, there are 44 primary schools and slight work going on, but nothing consistent.

"Look at St John's. They thought they had us beaten last year and then sat back and watched us go to and All-Ireland final and all that goes with it. Those same group of players are now more or less relegated. There has to be consistency and people may not like this, but you have to look in the mirror before you look out the window.
GAA will back viable Antrim development strategy: Duffy


"There is work could be done and there are still great coaches in West Belfast with the new County Board who I believe in to do the right thing." The former Allstar says it is not all doom and gloom and is convinced brighter days lie ahead so long as people are prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel.

"I do believe we will turn a corner with the help of Croke Park, but if you ask me is Paraic Duffy going to write us a blank cheque, no I don't believe that and I don't believe it's just a money issue," he stressed.

"I have been asked this a thousand times about us just having two (full-time) coaches. The issue is volunteers and people wanting to do the work. "There are good people who seem to have become disillusioned and an apathy towards the county.

"I remember when I was hurling, there were busses from North Antrim and Belfast to go and watch us, but you could take the Antrim support now in the back of a car. Why is this happening? "There are thousands of kids leaving school in West Belfast who have never held a hurl.

"We can blame Croke Park for that or we can look at ourselves and say it's us to blame and the clubs up and down the Falls Road who are to blame for this. "Loughgiel, Cushendall and Dunloy have dominated Antrim hurling over the past 30 years because of the work we put into our clubs. I have great friends in West Belfast and I know there are great coaches, but can we work harder and is there more that can be done to clean our own house before we go and ask others to do it?"

On the football front, Fermanagh boss McGrath has overseen something of a upturn in fortunes in the Erne County over the past three seasons and a question from the floor asked the double All-Ireland winning manager with Down how this can be so given the small population in the county.

"No matter county I would have gone to, going in my task was simple, to source and get on the training field the best players available to me," he explained. "To get them training and present to them a vision or blueprint with no guarantees, but one that made sense, viable, workable and the only thing it would guarantee would be that it would make them better footballers individually and a better team collectively.

"I believe that in all the counties in Ireland, with the exception of Kilkenny, there is a group of players that if they are brought together, treated properly, encouraged, cajoled and if the environment is there for them to be the best they can be, then great things can happen. Maybe not winning an All-Ireland, but certainly winning an Ulster Championship and giving the people of the county great days. "That gathers momentum and an unstoppable force in a way. Where it stops, nobody knows."

http://belfastmediagroup.com/gaa-will-back-viable-antrim-development-strategy-duffy/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 12, 2016, 08:02:42 AM


By David Mohan
GAA Director General, Paraic Duffy has said Central Council are keen to help with the development of Gaelic Games in Antrim provided the county develops a viable strategy. The Monaghan native was speaking at the Féile an Phobail GAA Talk Night at St Gall's on Monday where he formed part of a panel that included ex-Antrim hurler and manager, Terence McNaughton, current Fermanagh football boss Pete McGrath and former Donegal footballer, Brendan Devenney.

Over two hours, the lively debate touched upon a number of pressing matters of the day in Gaelic Games, but the healthy crowd were of course keen to hear what plans there are to revive Antrim who have been in the doldrums for quite some time.

The Director General – accepted as the most important figure in the Association – confirmed it is the GAA's intention to help develop hurling and football in Ireland's second city but would not just be writing a 'blank cheque'.

"Belfast is our second city so in GAA terms it's absolutely major and the state of the GAA in the city is vitally important for the GAA," he said. "We showed what can be done in a large city with what we have done in Dublin over the last 20 years and the increase in participation, so we need to do the same in Belfast.

"There is a new County Board in this year and they have inherited a number of issues. We are ready to put funding into developing the GAA in Belfast, but it's not a blank cheque. It has to be backed up by a plan and one that is viable. The County Board will develop this plan and when they do, we will sit down with them and the Ulster Council.

"It's not just a case of writing a cheque and saying 'there's a couple hundred thousand for new coaches'. It has to be part of a cohesive plan to build and get stronger. I think we can do that and that's part of the challenge."

On the hurling front, things have been in decline for a number of years with the county's senior team now plying its trade in the second tier of the Championship and third tier in the League, while apart from the All-Ireland U21 final appearance of 2013, there has been little to shout about underage.

Things are particularly worrying in the city with just two Antrim titles being won by city teams in over 25 years and McNaughton said that while things need to change, perhaps the solution is closer to home than many believe.

"If you look at Cushendall and a population of 1400, we did a survey a few months ago," he began.

"There are 44 primary schools in greater West Belfast, boys aged 5-11 and there are over 8000 (children). Out of that there are 300 involved in clubs. "People ask why in Cushendall we are doing so well. It's because we have to work so hard.

"I know West Belfast has its own disadvantages and all that there, but this is 2016 and the same problems exist in Cushendall too. My problem is that if you look at West Belfast, one club (Rossa) has won two Antrim Championships in the last 28 years, that means North Antrim has won the rest. "The problem is, there are 44 primary schools and slight work going on, but nothing consistent.

"Look at St John's. They thought they had us beaten last year and then sat back and watched us go to and All-Ireland final and all that goes with it. Those same group of players are now more or less relegated. There has to be consistency and people may not like this, but you have to look in the mirror before you look out the window.
GAA will back viable Antrim development strategy: Duffy


"There is work could be done and there are still great coaches in West Belfast with the new County Board who I believe in to do the right thing." The former Allstar says it is not all doom and gloom and is convinced brighter days lie ahead so long as people are prepared to put their shoulder to the wheel.

"I do believe we will turn a corner with the help of Croke Park, but if you ask me is Paraic Duffy going to write us a blank cheque, no I don't believe that and I don't believe it's just a money issue," he stressed.

"I have been asked this a thousand times about us just having two (full-time) coaches. The issue is volunteers and people wanting to do the work. "There are good people who seem to have become disillusioned and an apathy towards the county.

"I remember when I was hurling, there were busses from North Antrim and Belfast to go and watch us, but you could take the Antrim support now in the back of a car. Why is this happening? "There are thousands of kids leaving school in West Belfast who have never held a hurl.

"We can blame Croke Park for that or we can look at ourselves and say it's us to blame and the clubs up and down the Falls Road who are to blame for this. "Loughgiel, Cushendall and Dunloy have dominated Antrim hurling over the past 30 years because of the work we put into our clubs. I have great friends in West Belfast and I know there are great coaches, but can we work harder and is there more that can be done to clean our own house before we go and ask others to do it?"

On the football front, Fermanagh boss McGrath has overseen something of a upturn in fortunes in the Erne County over the past three seasons and a question from the floor asked the double All-Ireland winning manager with Down how this can be so given the small population in the county.

"No matter county I would have gone to, going in my task was simple, to source and get on the training field the best players available to me," he explained. "To get them training and present to them a vision or blueprint with no guarantees, but one that made sense, viable, workable and the only thing it would guarantee would be that it would make them better footballers individually and a better team collectively.

"I believe that in all the counties in Ireland, with the exception of Kilkenny, there is a group of players that if they are brought together, treated properly, encouraged, cajoled and if the environment is there for them to be the best they can be, then great things can happen. Maybe not winning an All-Ireland, but certainly winning an Ulster Championship and giving the people of the county great days. "That gathers momentum and an unstoppable force in a way. Where it stops, nobody knows."

http://belfastmediagroup.com/gaa-will-back-viable-antrim-development-strategy-duffy/

The bits that stood out for me in bold

I think there needs to be a discussion in regard to the critical mass of people required to do the job right both on the coaching and administering front. If the numbers of interested individuals are too low, it (over time) doesn't matter how talented those who are there are at doing their bit, the surrounding apathy kills the energy levels. So all this take of 'there are good people are there' etc etc is meaningless if they are not there in the right numbers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
Plus this is all well and good saying they will back a viable plan. This means that nothing thus far has been prepared that is either workable or viable.

I understand that the new committee are only a year or so and the inherited a lot of issues, but this has to go to the top of the pile now.

Forget the #buildcasement crew and look to the good of the games, a white elephant in the middle of a 'GAA community' is not going to develop our county or our games on its own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
Plus this is all well and good saying they will back a viable plan. This means that nothing thus far has been prepared that is either workable or viable.

I understand that the new committee are only a year or so and the inherited a lot of issues, but this has to go to the top of the pile now.

Forget the #buildcasement crew and look to the good of the games, a white elephant in the middle of a 'GAA community' is not going to develop our county or our games on its own.

Why not both?
Don't underestimate the role of a new casement in promoting Gaelic games smack bang in the middle of the area we're talking about here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 12, 2016, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
Plus this is all well and good saying they will back a viable plan. This means that nothing thus far has been prepared that is either workable or viable.

I understand that the new committee are only a year or so and the inherited a lot of issues, but this has to go to the top of the pile now.

Forget the #buildcasement crew and look to the good of the games, a white elephant in the middle of a 'GAA community' is not going to develop our county or our games on its own.

Why not both?
Don't underestimate the role of a new casement in promoting Gaelic games smack bang in the middle of the area we're talking about here.

I'm not talking about developing our games and county in one neighbourhood, I am talking about the whole county. Handing over the rights to our county ground to me does not equate to developing the games. There will be spin off benefits yes, but these will not get there on their own. That is why the 'Viable' plan needs to be in place before we start building anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 07:45:58 PM
The two things are not financially related.
We develop our games internally and financial support from Central council hopefully.
Casement is British Government & some Ulster council money.
So we should do both together.
Developing casement & developing our games go hand in hand - just like the demise of casement has seen the demise of our county teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2016, 08:26:30 PM
Do you think there is a link between the closing of Casement Park and Antrim County teams performances during that time? I'm not having one iota of that.

Yeah total nonsense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 09:15:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2016, 08:26:30 PM
Do you think there is a link between the closing of Casement Park and Antrim County teams performances during that time? I'm not having one iota of that.

I don't think the two are totally responsible for each other no - not at all.

My point is any notion or prioritising developing our standards & games in front of developing casement - is nonsense.
Both should happen simultaneously.

And I do think that developing casement can help us develop our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 09:33:43 PM
Well I think the development that the Ulster Council want for Casement is so far away from what Antrim needs it baffles me why the people are pushing for it. Zero chance of building atmosphere in a 36000 seater stadium. We need an Owenbeg type set up in the middle of the county. 8-10K seater which will be more than enough for both County and Club requirements.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 09:33:43 PM
Well I think the development that the Ulster Council want for Casement is so far away from what Antrim needs it baffles me why the people are pushing for it. Zero chance of building atmosphere in a 36000 seater stadium. We need an Owenbeg type set up in the middle of the county. 8-10K seater which will be more than enough for both County and Club requirements.

Yes I get that point.
We've already too many stadia around the country that never have or will be full.
For casement it's all about finding the magic number in terms of what attendance to build it for.
But it needs built. And it needs to start quickly.
As I said - don't underestimate how important it could be in promoting our games in the very area wee need to most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 09:53:15 PM
We've already too many stadia around the country that never have or will be full.
For casement it's all about finding the magic number in terms of what attendance to build it for.
But it needs built. And it needs to start quickly.
As I said - don't underestimate how important it could be in promoting our games in the very area wee need to most.

You could do with square that for me btdtgtt. How can you start building Casement and THEN discuss magic numbers? Its a moot point anyway ....The UC don't want to talk numbers. They have their number and its 36K .... What would be suitable for Antrims needs is not part of their concerns

Pure dillusion to think a big lump of concrete is going to be in any way the saviour of Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2016, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 09:33:43 PM
Well I think the development that the Ulster Council want for Casement is so far away from what Antrim needs it baffles me why the people are pushing for it. Zero chance of building atmosphere in a 36000 seater stadium. We need an Owenbeg type set up in the middle of the county. 8-10K seater which will be more than enough for both County and Club requirements.

A lot of those pushing it have as much interest in Antrim Gaa as Gregory Campbell does
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 12, 2016, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 09:53:15 PM
We've already too many stadia around the country that never have or will be full.
For casement it's all about finding the magic number in terms of what attendance to build it for.
But it needs built. And it needs to start quickly.
As I said - don't underestimate how important it could be in promoting our games in the very area wee need to most.

You could do with square that for me btdtgtt. How can you start building Casement and THEN discuss magic numbers? Its a moot point anyway ....The UC don't want to talk numbers. They have their number and its 36K .... What would be suitable for Antrims needs is not part of their concerns

Pure dillusion to think a big lump of concrete is going to be in any way the saviour of Antrim GAA.

Well obviously the magic number will need to be found before building starts.
And it will be found - a stadium will be built.

Nobody ever said it would be a saviour - but it certainly will do be help than harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 12, 2016, 11:18:28 PM
Another massive problem for me is the make up of the group tasked with writing the viable plan!! Frankie, and the Coaching co are incapable as their performance this last 6/8 years proves, I cannot come up with one initiative they roles out with any value to the County!! Who will lead us??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 12, 2016, 11:34:26 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 12, 2016, 11:18:28 PM
Another massive problem for me is the make up of the group tasked with writing the viable plan!! Frankie, and the Coaching co are incapable as their performance this last 6/8 years proves, I cannot come up with one initiative they roles out with any value to the County!! Who will lead us??

Similar kind of point was made before - guys who have failed to drive up standards to date cannot be tasked with a plan to do it with new funding.
National director of hurling should be the man here - there's no need for it to be jump started by an Antrim native.
Begin with others who have done successful jobs in other counties - shadowed by Antrim natives until we can paddle our own canoe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on August 14, 2016, 02:00:51 AM
I miss the old Casement the stand and grass banks were more than good enough for me. Pity they just couldn't clean it up again and forget a mega stadium. Dosent make sense to me GAA not that big in the County lets be realistic.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 15, 2016, 09:04:47 PM
Anybody hearing that the Johnnies & shamrocks have both bean put out of MHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2016, 10:38:33 AM
heard that myself that both of them have been put out of the minor championship. Is this def true?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 18, 2016, 06:45:07 PM
Think Dunloy are strong favourites  to win minor anyhow. Is that the case?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 18, 2016, 06:51:13 PM
How does everyone think we will do in the u21 this Saturday
Are we coming in below the radar for another ambush
Sure Gleeson and bennet etc are no big shakes really
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 18, 2016, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 18, 2016, 06:45:07 PM
Think Dunloy are strong favourites  to win minor anyhow. Is that the case?
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 18, 2016, 06:51:13 PM
How does everyone think we will do in the u21 this Saturday
Are we coming in below the radar for another ambush
Sure Gleeson and bennet etc are no big shakes really

Having watched Waterford against Clare & Tipp on Tg4, this could be 30+ pts if they go full pelt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on August 18, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
Scary thought .  Waterford are very very good.  This is not a good system . 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 18, 2016, 08:09:47 PM
Waterford will win how however much they want to push it. An immensely strong team I would be shocked if they don't win the final with some to spare.
Antrim went defensive last year which won't help this year and Waterford will empty the bench.

It appears both teams have indeed beeneexlelled from the minor hurling - but appeals are expected if not in the process. Dunloy beat the St John's in the league this week and would be favourites especially if st John's are out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 18, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on August 18, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
Scary thought .  Waterford are very very good.  This is not a good system .

There could be a call for the system to be changed after Saturday
Good luck to our lads but I just wish we would take the u21 more seriously
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 18, 2016, 11:48:25 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 18, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: ashman on August 18, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
Scary thought .  Waterford are very very good.  This is not a good system .

There could be a call for the system to be changed after Saturday
Good luck to our lads but I just wish we would take the u21 more seriously

I think U21 is actually due to be abolished.

Personally I thing the GAA should have used it as a testing ground for a new championship structure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
minors won at St johns on weds night 24hrs after playing st galls in the football championship, 48hrs after playing Ballycastle in the U16 hurling league.

Great sense from the powers that be to make a group of kids play 3 games in 3 days.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigSmoke123 on August 19, 2016, 02:29:49 PM
Rumour has it that Neil McManus will be back in the dall sometime next week!!big boost for cushendall if its true....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 19, 2016, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: BigSmoke123 on August 19, 2016, 02:29:49 PM
Rumour has it that Neil McManus will be back in the dall sometime next week!!big boost for cushendall if its true....

Yeah had heard that myself. I don't think Aaron Graffin will be home for the early rounds though.

Interesting championship in store, looking forward to next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Cushendall playing better up front without him IMHO. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Cushendall playing better up front without him IMHO.

On your team where would you play him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Cushendall playing better up front without him IMHO.

On your team where would you play him?

(http://idolosol.com/images/what-the-hell-2.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Cushendall playing better up front without him IMHO.

On your team where would you play him?

(http://idolosol.com/images/what-the-hell-2.jpg)

What's hos best position? He's played in most positions but never really settled in one for year's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2016, 10:54:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
What's hos best position? He's played in most positions but never really settled in one for year's

I don't know....I just said that their forward line played better as a unit IMHO without him. Don't understand the reason for the silly rhetorical question earlier?
In Cushendall he'll have to earn his place the same as the rest. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 20, 2016, 12:08:04 AM
We aren't in the habit of cutting of our nose either!! Their won't be a player not glad to see him home if it happens, but it's all hearsay atm. But you may as well start him because first chance any manager gets he's on and the manager looks like he's made his point!! He got us to where we got to last year he was nearly unplayable at times in my mind, and lead the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 20, 2016, 07:46:56 AM
We wouldn't have beat Slaughtneil or Loughgiel last year without him. It would be a big boost to have him home.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2016, 09:42:15 AM
Good luck to the u21s later.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 20, 2016, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 20, 2016, 09:42:15 AM
Good luck to the u21s later.

+1

Good luck lads, just go out and empty the tank and see what happens that's all anyone can ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 20, 2016, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 20, 2016, 07:46:56 AM
We wouldn't have beat Slaughtneil or Loughgiel last year without him. It would be a big boost to have him home.

He carried the team at times in both games. I'm sure the younger bucks have learnt a lot having to play without Neil these last few months but he's certainly going to be the first name on the team sheet if training & fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 20, 2016, 01:25:35 PM
New to the board chaps.

After speaking to a few players in my own club, I believe we should move all county league games (hurling and football) to Saturday evenings and give our players back some of their social lives. Coming home from work/study on a Friday evening and having to put your entire weekend on hold for a game on Sunday is not realistic. Is it any wonder we have fellas turning their backs on our games in favour of rugby/soccer. The traditionalists won't like this idea but to be honest it's not about them. Ask the players what they want.

Any thoughts folks?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Like everything in life, sometimes sacrifices have to be made and theres a beauty in making them. Bad job if you don't see our games as part of a social life.

At least the U21s are giving it a go as much as its plain the see the difference in standards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 20, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
Ended like a one side U14 game  :-\

We are where we are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 20, 2016, 06:40:21 PM
Welcome Usain. Fully support your sentiment. I'd even play matches on a Friday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on August 20, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
Hopefully after today Antrim won't enter the u21 hurling championship in the A level section. Its unfair to themselves supporters and the teams they play. Time for common sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 20, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Like everything in life, sometimes sacrifices have to be made and theres a beauty in making them. Bad job if you don't see our games as part of a social life.

At least the U21s are giving it a go as much as its plain the see the difference in standards

Player welfare Skull. I'd challenge you to ask a small population of players in your club what they would prefer? You might get a surprise. We need to look after our most important commodity, our players (Young and old!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 20, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Like everything in life, sometimes sacrifices have to be made and theres a beauty in making them. Bad job if you don't see our games as part of a social life.

At least the U21s are giving it a go as much as its plain the see the difference in standards

Player welfare Skull. I'd challenge you to ask a small population of players in your club what they would prefer? You might get a surprise. We need to look after our most important commodity, our players (Young and old!).

Player welfare??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 21, 2016, 03:13:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 20, 2016, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 20, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Like everything in life, sometimes sacrifices have to be made and theres a beauty in making them. Bad job if you don't see our games as part of a social life.

At least the U21s are giving it a go as much as its plain the see the difference in standards

Player welfare Skull. I'd challenge you to ask a small population of players in your club what they would prefer? You might get a surprise. We need to look after our most important commodity, our players (Young and old!).

Player welfare??

We need to look after our players = player welfare
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 21, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Usain - what a pile of nonsense. My club after today will have played 13 games - with only 7 games on a Sunday. To sacrifice 7 Saturday nights in as well as lead up to cship is a small price for oppt of a cship.

Players going to soccer or rugby? Name me a few players we have lost to rugby??

As for soccer - anyone leaving their club to play Saturday morning soccer and no GAA isn't worth much to their club anyway. Again we have soccer in our town and I can't think of any player we have lost to soccer.

U say player welfare = looking after players. So I assume u want everyone to drink to be enjoying themselves?? That's good for a player isnt it??

I have no issue with matches not being on s Sunday - in fact a mix of wed, sat and Sunday games allows for everyone to benefit.

But use facts for a silly argument like that. I don't know many club players who don't have a social life for 9 -10 months of the year!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
I thought he was actually concerned about players over use, and training drills being too tough and lads hitting the gym everyday on top of their club commitments.... No he's concerned that the lads need to get pissed on a Saturday night!!


By all means mix up the days, nights for playing games, but don't say player welfare and base on allowing lads to get completely shit faced at the weekends.... No player welfare in that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 21, 2016, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
I thought he was actually concerned about players over use, and training drills being too tough and lads hitting the gym everyday on top of their club commitments.... No he's concerned that the lads need to get pissed on a Saturday night!!


By all means mix up the days, nights for playing games, but don't say player welfare and base on allowing lads to get completely shit faced at the weekends.... No player welfare in that

Apologies, player welfare was prob the wrong choice of words. I'm definitely not trying to encourage fellas to get shit faced either.

I think Sunday's should be seen as a rest day. A day where players with young families can do exactly that, spend time with their families before going back to the weekly grind.

Games on Sunday's take up so much of the weekend because you are preparing mentally and physically from when you arrive home on Friday evening from work for that 60 mins on a Sunday afternoon. The next thing is the game is over and you might have to travel back to Belfast/NA and you realise your weekend is over without really having a chance to unwind/relax.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 21, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 21, 2016, 08:39:44 AM
Usain - what a pile of nonsense. My club after today will have played 13 games - with only 7 games on a Sunday. To sacrifice 7 Saturday nights in as well as lead up to cship is a small price for oppt of a cship.

Players going to soccer or rugby? Name me a few players we have lost to rugby??

As for soccer - anyone leaving their club to play Saturday morning soccer and no GAA isn't worth much to their club anyway. Again we have soccer in our town and I can't think of any player we have lost to soccer.

U say player welfare = looking after players. So I assume u want everyone to drink to be enjoying themselves?? That's good for a player isnt it??

I have no issue with matches not being on s Sunday - in fact a mix of wed, sat and Sunday games allows for everyone to benefit.

But use facts for a silly argument like that. I don't know many club players who don't have a social life for 9 -10 months of the year!!!

Leyland, I spoke to 3 of your senior hurlers about this last week (one of which is a well established county hurler). I asked would they like league games on either Friday, Sat or Sun. All 3 said Saturday evening. This is the feedback I am getting from players. Are you a player yourself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 21, 2016, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
I thought he was actually concerned about players over use, and training drills being too tough and lads hitting the gym everyday on top of their club commitments.... No he's concerned that the lads need to get pissed on a Saturday night!!


By all means mix up the days, nights for playing games, but don't say player welfare and base on allowing lads to get completely shit faced at the weekends.... No player welfare in that

Apologies, player welfare was prob the wrong choice of words. I'm definitely not trying to encourage fellas to get shit faced either.

I think Sunday's should be seen as a rest day. A day where players with young families can do exactly that, spend time with their families before going back to the weekly grind.

Games on Sunday's take up so much of the weekend because you are preparing mentally and physically from when you arrive home on Friday evening from work for that 60 mins on a Sunday afternoon. The next thing is the game is over and you might have to travel back to Belfast/NA and you realise your weekend is over without really having a chance to unwind/relax.

Yeah I can see the point in it, has merit but like most things, clubs have so many teams to facilitate now and to give one day and a weekend day at that up would not be making full use of the pitch availability.... And besides being a dual county players not playing on the Saturday night will be up early and training on a Sunday!!!

Is priority within a club senior down or juvenile up??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 21, 2016, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 21, 2016, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
I thought he was actually concerned about players over use, and training drills being too tough and lads hitting the gym everyday on top of their club commitments.... No he's concerned that the lads need to get pissed on a Saturday night!!


By all means mix up the days, nights for playing games, but don't say player welfare and base on allowing lads to get completely shit faced at the weekends.... No player welfare in that

Apologies, player welfare was prob the wrong choice of words. I'm definitely not trying to encourage fellas to get shit faced either.

I think Sunday's should be seen as a rest day. A day where players with young families can do exactly that, spend time with their families before going back to the weekly grind.

Games on Sunday's take up so much of the weekend because you are preparing mentally and physically from when you arrive home on Friday evening from work for that 60 mins on a Sunday afternoon. The next thing is the game is over and you might have to travel back to Belfast/NA and you realise your weekend is over without really having a chance to unwind/relax.

Yeah I can see the point in it, has merit but like most things, clubs have so many teams to facilitate now and to give one day and a weekend day at that up would not be making full use of the pitch availability.... And besides being a dual county players not playing on the Saturday night will be up early and training on a Sunday!!!

Is priority within a club senior down or juvenile up??

A fair point MR2, I was putting more priority behind the senior club scene. I know we could pick a lot of holes in this but this would be my weekly calendar for League activity (very high level):

Monday = Minor
Tuesday
Wednesday = Senior midweek
Thursday
Friday = U16
Saturday = Senior
Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 22, 2016, 09:12:50 AM
i would agree with you there leyland, cdall def look good at the right time of the year. Lgiel have been consistent whilst not looking as good as they have been in past years.
Ourselves, well i cant see us doing much. Ill be there on Sunday backing them to the hilt but i cant give off about the players as ive seen the amount of effort they have put in this year. I just feel were lacking up front to do the damage to win us a championship. A lot of exciting young lads coming through from U16 to minor but its too early for them this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2016, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season

Leyland, more good points about the senior & senior reserve double headers. We should mix it up but try to move the majority of the games to Saturday evenings and keep those double headers for Sundays perhaps?

I have no names of players who have moved but I know a couple of guys in your club who would sometimes go to play the soccer and then a hurling match. Those comments were more directed with the dropout rates that clubs in Belfast report. I have no proof of what those players are doing but I suspect it is to play other sports? Perhaps that opinion is incorrect?

I am considering asking my club to put this proposal forward at the next county meeting. I wanted to post the idea here to see what sort of response it got. Thanks for the input.

Back to business
Your right, all depends what town team show up against Dunloy. The team appeared to have a few positional changes on Sunday, a bit worrying so close to chsip?
The full forward line looks potent, with serious pace and skill throughout.

Have to agree, dall the team to beat again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season

Would you not get a bigger gate at a Sunday game all the same?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season

Would you not get a bigger gate at a Sunday game all the same?

I've heard and seen some rubbish talked on this board but this seems to have taken the biscuit completely.

The whole idea of our games is about family and community, I don't know of any player that doesn't see that and that would rather play their games on a Saturday evening to get out and get a few pints.

I for one think that going away from the old system of having regular Sunday games senior and senior reserve has hurt both the standard of the hurling in the county at the moment, but has also hurt the clubs in general.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
I love heading out to a game or two on a Sunday myself it has to be said. The atmosphere on a weekday or saturday game just isn't the same. Perhaps I'm just a dinosaur.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
I love heading out to a game or two on a Sunday myself it has to be said. The atmosphere on a weekday or saturday game just isn't the same. Perhaps I'm just a dinosaur.  ;)

Knew at some point it would happen that we would agree on something just didnt expect it to happen so soon  ;D

Sunday games at staggered times around the county letting hurling people get to see as many as they would like too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
I love heading out to a game or two on a Sunday myself it has to be said. The atmosphere on a weekday or saturday game just isn't the same. Perhaps I'm just a dinosaur.  ;)

Knew at some point it would happen that we would agree on something just didnt expect it to happen so soon  ;D

Sunday games at staggered times around the county letting hurling people get to see as many as they would like too.

As long as I get to do the early game, as I hate hanging around all day when I could be drinking....  ;D  I mean watch my club team perhaps, but at our rate I might end up getting a game!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 22, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
I love heading out to a game or two on a Sunday myself it has to be said. The atmosphere on a weekday or saturday game just isn't the same. Perhaps I'm just a dinosaur.  ;)

Knew at some point it would happen that we would agree on something just didnt expect it to happen so soon  ;D

Sunday games at staggered times around the county letting hurling people get to see as many as they would like too.

I always liked the double bill on a Sunday as a player and spectator, hated mid week games where you're rushing like f**k to get to the game, never have a decent warm up and straight into it.

There's now a lot less Sundays available due to the bigger intercounty calendar, but when possible a game should be played on the Sunday IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season

Would you not get a bigger gate at a Sunday game all the same?

I've heard and seen some rubbish talked on this board but this seems to have taken the biscuit completely.

The whole idea of our games is about family and community, I don't know of any player that doesn't see that and that would rather play their games on a Saturday evening to get out and get a few pints.

I for one think that going away from the old system of having regular Sunday games senior and senior reserve has hurt both the standard of the hurling in the county at the moment, but has also hurt the clubs in general.

I want to get regular games NAG but would like to keep Sunday's free from club activity (a day for spending quality time with family and watching our county team). Not for the purpose of lads having pints (although I can see how it comes across).

I and other players want at least one evening and a day of their weekend where they can switch off from the now semi-professional preparation that goes into our club games. If you aren't a current player it will be hard to understand this but trust me this is what players want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 03:48:20 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: Leyland on August 22, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Of course lads like Saturday evening games and I'm not saying don't play some games on a Saturday evening. However 4 of our 7 Sunday games were down team matches. You can't play them midweek and a Saturday evening double header senior & reserve wud be limited - there's always going to be a coupple of lads who work on Saturday etc.

But agree that def not all on a Sunday and I think most clubs are flexible. A bit of variation is good.

You never gave me names or numbers of players leaving GAA games to rugby or soccer!

And I'm not a current player though I used to play.

Good win for us yesterday with Dunloy match next weekend. We will need to up it big time for this. But last 2 games have been a big improvement from previous ones. Hopefully not a few weeks/months too late.

Cushendall are the team to beat, with Loughgiel there or there abouts. It's what Ballycastle turns up will determine our season.

Roll on championship season

Would you not get a bigger gate at a Sunday game all the same?

I've heard and seen some rubbish talked on this board but this seems to have taken the biscuit completely.

The whole idea of our games is about family and community, I don't know of any player that doesn't see that and that would rather play their games on a Saturday evening to get out and get a few pints.

I for one think that going away from the old system of having regular Sunday games senior and senior reserve has hurt both the standard of the hurling in the county at the moment, but has also hurt the clubs in general.

I want to get regular games NAG but would like to keep Sunday's free from club activity (a day for spending quality time with family and watching our county team). Not for the purpose of lads having pints (although I can see how it comes across).

I and other players want at least one evening and a day of their weekend where they can switch off from the now semi-professional preparation that goes into our club games. If you aren't a current player it will be hard to understand this but trust me this is what players want.

I get what you are saying I just don't think anyone who is taking their hurling seriously would agree with you.

Anyone I know or have known wants to play their club games on a Sunday and that is all part of spending time with their family, ideal world the family would all go and watch and be around the club creating that community atmosphere into the club house for a cup of tea and a sandwich etc.

As for keeping Sundays free for watching our county team, they are finished by the start of the summer (and will be playing their CR games on Saturdays for the foreseeable future)  therefore leaving all Sundays across the summer months free for the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2016, 04:04:58 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
I want to get regular games NAG but would like to keep Sunday's free from club activity (a day for spending quality time with family and watching our county team). Not for the purpose of lads having pints (although I can see how it comes across).

I and other players want at least one evening and a day of their weekend where they can switch off from the now semi-professional preparation that goes into our club games. If you aren't a current player it will be hard to understand this but trust me this is what players want.

Usain
What type of things do you and the other players like to do with your families on the Sundays you don't have a game? Sounds like a great lifestyle your living if 6 or 7 Sundays in the year is causing so much pain. Hurling is quality time for myself and my family, so I can't comment on just how good it can get if it wasn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2016, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2016, 04:04:58 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
I want to get regular games NAG but would like to keep Sunday's free from club activity (a day for spending quality time with family and watching our county team). Not for the purpose of lads having pints (although I can see how it comes across).

I and other players want at least one evening and a day of their weekend where they can switch off from the now semi-professional preparation that goes into our club games. If you aren't a current player it will be hard to understand this but trust me this is what players want.

Usain
What type of things do you and the other players like to do with your families on the Sundays you don't have a game? Sounds like a great lifestyle your living if 6 or 7 Sundays in the year is causing so much pain. Hurling is quality time for myself and my family, so I can't comment on just how good it can get if it wasn't.

Its the fact that you don't have a game to prepare for and gives you a day at the weekend to rest before getting ready for two/three nights of training the following week. As a spectator, yes Sunday is ideal. As a player its very different.

I'll let the board get back to the more important discussions around cship etc. I wanted to see what peoples opinions on this were and I'm grateful for all your feedback. Thanks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 22, 2016, 05:06:14 PM
Any predictions for the weekend? Any upsets likely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 22, 2016, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2016, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 22, 2016, 04:04:58 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
I want to get regular games NAG but would like to keep Sunday's free from club activity (a day for spending quality time with family and watching our county team). Not for the purpose of lads having pints (although I can see how it comes across).

I and other players want at least one evening and a day of their weekend where they can switch off from the now semi-professional preparation that goes into our club games. If you aren't a current player it will be hard to understand this but trust me this is what players want.

Usain
What type of things do you and the other players like to do with your families on the Sundays you don't have a game? Sounds like a great lifestyle your living if 6 or 7 Sundays in the year is causing so much pain. Hurling is quality time for myself and my family, so I can't comment on just how good it can get if it wasn't.

Its the fact that you don't have a game to prepare for and gives you a day at the weekend to rest before getting ready for two/three nights of training the following week. As a spectator, yes Sunday is ideal. As a player its very different.

I'll let the board get back to the more important discussions around cship etc. I wanted to see what peoples opinions on this were and I'm grateful for all your feedback. Thanks.

As a player, I loved Sunday matches. Gave a purpose to what could be a very boring day. The days rest on the the Saturday meant you had good time to prepare for the game. Never thought I was missing out on a social life by not drinking, but thats just my perspective.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 22, 2016, 05:53:28 PM
What pure Drivel Usain!! You obviously don't go to many clubs agms, every year since Jim Nelson and the 89 lads successes ruined a very vibrant County league scene, delegates have been fighting to get back to more Sunday fixtures!! My family time is going to watch the pride of the parish perform, trying to show my children how it was!! Also if it's a home match what does that take out of your day, 4 hours, and let's face it your can only go to the zoo so many times a year!! Now no more off this it's a non runner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2016, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 22, 2016, 05:53:28 PM
What pure Drivel Usain!! You obviously don't go to many clubs agms, every year since Jim Nelson and the 89 lads successes ruined a very vibrant County league scene, delegates have been fighting to get back to more Sunday fixtures!! My family time is going to watch the pride of the parish perform, trying to show my children how it was!! Also if it's a home match what does that take out of your day, 4 hours, and let's face it your can only go to the zoo so many times a year!! Now no more off this it's a non runner.

Well we have had Sunday league games for a long time and there isn't a vibrant club scene Hand up. Quite the opposite, one that's dying on its feet. That's reality. We need to try and experiment with it rather than just same old same old. This may not be the solution but we need to make changes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 22, 2016, 08:21:46 PM
Heard today from a Waterford lad I work with that an Antrim player asked Aussie Gleason for his jersey to swap - at half time!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2016, 08:40:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 22, 2016, 08:21:46 PM
Heard today from a Waterford lad I work with that an Antrim player asked Aussie Gleason for his jersey to swap - at half time!

Sure the game was over then FFS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 22, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Sambo,Woody, Pappy &  Pedan to stay on as management. Good shout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 22, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
Is that definite.Are they not part of a team tasked to recommend a new hurling manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
What does Mickey McCullough need to do to get the gig?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 22, 2016, 11:15:30 PM
According to Antrim Twitter they will lead the team next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 22, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
Behave himself would be a start!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 22, 2016, 11:24:37 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 22, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
Behave himself would be a start!!

Why what has he done?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 23, 2016, 07:45:24 AM
Quote from: Hand up on August 22, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
Behave himself would be a start!!

;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 23, 2016, 07:48:27 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 22, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
Is that definite.Are they not part of a team tasked to recommend a new hurling manager?

Must have recommended themselves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2016, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
What does Mickey McCullough need to do to get the gig?

Come on JC put the big spoon away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 23, 2016, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 23, 2016, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
What does Mickey McCullough need to do to get the gig?

Come on JC put the big spoon away.

What, he's coached Meath to Christy Ring success in case you didn't notice.

Maybe he could team up with his old team mate Jingo and go together on a dream ticket??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 23, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 23, 2016, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 23, 2016, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 22, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
What does Mickey McCullough need to do to get the gig?

Come on JC put the big spoon away.

What, he's coached Meath to Christy Ring success in case you didn't notice.

Maybe he could team up with his old team mate Jingo and go together on a dream ticket??

I think you know fine rightly what you are at JC  ;)

So thanks but no thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on August 23, 2016, 10:23:52 AM
How many teams is McCullough involved with now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on August 23, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
Any thoughts on the championship fixtures this weekend. For my money:

Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 6
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 8

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 3
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 9
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 12
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 7
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Ballycastle by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 23, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on August 23, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
Any thoughts on the championship fixtures this weekend. For my money:

Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 6
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 8

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 3
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 9
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 12
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 7
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Ballycastle by 1


Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 2
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 12-15

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 7-10
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 5
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 15 +
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 10 +
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Dunloy by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 23, 2016, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on August 23, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
Any thoughts on the championship fixtures this weekend. For my money:

Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 6
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 8

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 3
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 9
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 12
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 7
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Ballycastle by 1


Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 2
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 12-15

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 7-10
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 5
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 15 +
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 10 +
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Dunloy by 1

Agree with all results if not margins.
I'm pulling out all the stops to make it to the Rossa v Naomh Eoin game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on August 24, 2016, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 23, 2016, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on August 23, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
Any thoughts on the championship fixtures this weekend. For my money:

Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 6
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 8

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 3
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 9
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 12
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 7
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Ballycastle by 1


Junior Championship

Lamh Dhearg v St Teresa's - Lamh Dhearg by 2
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 12-15

Intermediate Championship

Glenariffe v St Enda's - Glenariffe by 7-10
Randalstown v Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 5

Senior Championship

Rossa v St John's - Rossa by 5
Loughgall v St Galls - loughgiel by 15 +
Cushendall v Creggan - Cushendall by 10 +
Dunloy v Ballycastle - Dunloy by 1

Agree with all results if not margins.
I'm pulling out all the stops to make it to the Rossa v Naomh Eoin game.

I think St Teresa's on viewing them this year will beat LD, only plus for LD is youn Nudgent back who didnt play much League but fancy the T's to win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2016, 09:17:49 AM
I read this response on the County website in regard to Sambo' comments at the Féile an Phobail talk and thought WTF

Quote
Success and hard work?
12th August 2016

Sambo was talking in West Belfast about the hard work behind the success of clubs like Cushendall, Dunloy and Loughgiel. Maybe it's not that 'hard' when you and your club have been successful? Even one winning championship side in the past 20 years will have say 25 players within that club with medals and recognised as a great team. No success, no medals, no Cups, no silverware ( of significance) in 20, 40 years or ever and keeping going - well could that be called 'hard'? So to those hard working ( successful) clubs that Sambo mentioned maybe you don't really know the meaning of hard work ? Hard is when it is a struggle. 'Hard' when nothing of significance is being won; has been won or in foreseeable future likely to be won. Those clubs and those within them starved of success - (the majority in Antrim ) maybe have a different concept of what 'hard' really means? 'Hard' is the experience of being perennial losers because we all wish to be winners . 'Hard' is being on the wrong end over many years of hammerings , trouncings meted out by strong clubs in juvenile competitions . 'Hard' on the young players, hard on the coaches, hard on parents, hard on those in non successful clubs who care... hard going, hard to take. Harder in that it contributes to self inflicted killing off of our games - by ourselves. It is more than 'hard' - it is painful, full of pain to literally see us being the architects of our own destruction. It is those stalwarts who pre- dated the successful era in the likes of Cushendall and Dunloy clubs who worked when it was hard - year in / year out without much to show for it? Maybe hard work and success / successful in the past 25 years extends beyond the 3 North Antrim clubs and before the modern era of their success? But then our world loves 'the winner'?

Is this dispiritedness common amongst our Belfast Gaels ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 24, 2016, 10:14:36 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2016, 09:17:49 AM
I read this response on the County website in regard to Sambo' comments at the Féile an Phobail talk and thought WTF

Quote
Success and hard work?
12th August 2016

Sambo was talking in West Belfast about the hard work behind the success of clubs like Cushendall, Dunloy and Loughgiel. Maybe it's not that 'hard' when you and your club have been successful? Even one winning championship side in the past 20 years will have say 25 players within that club with medals and recognised as a great team. No success, no medals, no Cups, no silverware ( of significance) in 20, 40 years or ever and keeping going - well could that be called 'hard'? So to those hard working ( successful) clubs that Sambo mentioned maybe you don't really know the meaning of hard work ? Hard is when it is a struggle. 'Hard' when nothing of significance is being won; has been won or in foreseeable future likely to be won. Those clubs and those within them starved of success - (the majority in Antrim ) maybe have a different concept of what 'hard' really means? 'Hard' is the experience of being perennial losers because we all wish to be winners . 'Hard' is being on the wrong end over many years of hammerings , trouncings meted out by strong clubs in juvenile competitions . 'Hard' on the young players, hard on the coaches, hard on parents, hard on those in non successful clubs who care... hard going, hard to take. Harder in that it contributes to self inflicted killing off of our games - by ourselves. It is more than 'hard' - it is painful, full of pain to literally see us being the architects of our own destruction. It is those stalwarts who pre- dated the successful era in the likes of Cushendall and Dunloy clubs who worked when it was hard - year in / year out without much to show for it? Maybe hard work and success / successful in the past 25 years extends beyond the 3 North Antrim clubs and before the modern era of their success? But then our world loves 'the winner'?

Is this dispiritedness common amongst our Belfast Gaels ?

Of course its hard work. At senior level the small spread of winners certainly does nothing to help encourage the top sides in Belfast but hopefully those days will come to an end soon. We need Rossa/St Johns/St Galls to be thought of as genuine contenders for senior honours rather than the whipping boys. Creggan/Clooney Gaels are further behind, but if they want to compete at this level they also need to step up 'work harder' etc etc. These clubs need to make our senior club cship a much more dangerous place for the likes of cdall, lgiel, town and dunloy. At the minute, with perhaps exception of Rossa, they lag far behind. Its hard work for everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
Yeah. Not winning a championship for 21 years and getting beat in 6 straight county finals isn't hard. Ffs, what planet is this space cadet from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 24, 2016, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
Yeah. Not winning a championship for 21 years and getting beat in 6 straight county finals isn't hard. Ffs, what planet is this space cadet from?
+1

Dunloy won their first all county Feile for 22 years a couple of years ago, all whilst City teams have had the lions share of success at juvenile levels. We've a pile of lads on our senior team who played B juvenile hurling and took many's a hammering along the way at that level. I don't need a championship to be immensely proud of these lads who have give their all for their club and are competing admirably in Div 1 today.... I say I don't need ... but I'd sure as hell take one  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 24, 2016, 12:19:13 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
Yeah. Not winning a championship for 21 years and getting beat in 6 straight county finals isn't hard. Ffs, what planet is this space cadet from?

Lucky number 7 SIE!! Twas a fine day! All the sweeter after the pain endured along the way.

Is Johnny Campbell your manager or a selector? Who's doing the coaching now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 24, 2016, 12:22:23 PM
Has anyone got an idea of what Glenariffe are getting for their £180K? Any plans/designs yet?

I have to say I'm very jealous but its great to see money being invested like this and hopefully neighbouring clubs can make use of the new facilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
i think its a disgrace that they have sold out their history for a pile of unionist money. Sure why dont they let mervin storey drive the bull dozer to flatten their front gates for them.

They should be ashamed of themselves

i accept that they want the facility but should it be done by wiping out a piece of their own clubs history?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
i think its a disgrace that they have sold out their history for a pile of unionist money. Sure why dont they let mervin storey drive the bull dozer to flatten their front gates for them.

They should be ashamed of themselves

i accept that they want the facility but should it be done by wiping out a piece of their own clubs history?

DR we live in the real world and this is the game you have to play, get the funds get the building up and running for the local community and put the gates back on. Simple as that really.

What better money could there be than Unionist money being invested in a Nationalist area to further enhance the community spirit and well being?

You think the same investment in these loyalist dens is having any impact? Its not.

Might not be nice in the short term but we all have to play the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 12:41:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 24, 2016, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 24, 2016, 11:06:37 AM
Yeah. Not winning a championship for 21 years and getting beat in 6 straight county finals isn't hard. Ffs, what planet is this space cadet from?
+1

Dunloy won their first all county Feile for 22 years a couple of years ago, all whilst City teams have had the lions share of success at juvenile levels. We've a pile of lads on our senior team who played B juvenile hurling and took many's a hammering along the way at that level. I don't need a championship to be immensely proud of these lads who have give their all for their club and are competing admirably in Div 1 today.... I say I don't need ... but I'd sure as hell take one  :)

def skull, we have had to stand and watch years of no success at under age level whilst teams have won around us. The club took a bold step to drop to B level and those lads have now progressed into senior level now.

People forget we didnt win our first championship until 1990, an 82 year wait with only 2 final appearances in that period of time. Success was hard worked and fought for at underage level by good people to get us to where we are now for a long time.

It continues today with the same hard working people who look after our under age teams.

Loughgiel were the same, they have raised the bar for years by perseverance and hard work to gain their sucess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
i think its a disgrace that they have sold out their history for a pile of unionist money. Sure why dont they let mervin storey drive the bull dozer to flatten their front gates for them.

They should be ashamed of themselves

i accept that they want the facility but should it be done by wiping out a piece of their own clubs history?

DR we live in the real world and this is the game you have to play, get the funds get the building up and running for the local community and put the gates back on. Simple as that really.

What better money could there be than Unionist money being invested in a Nationalist area to further enhance the community spirit and well being?

You think the same investment in these loyalist dens is having any impact? Its not.

Might not be nice in the short term but we all have to play the game.

What next, change the pitch names, change the club names???

no tri-colour at the ground, no anthem? thats what it leads to.

The unionist council have got exactly what they wanted, and glenariffe got a building that they will never own. im guessing that due to it being cross community it will be run outside of their hands by a committee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
i think its a disgrace that they have sold out their history for a pile of unionist money. Sure why dont they let mervin storey drive the bull dozer to flatten their front gates for them.

They should be ashamed of themselves

i accept that they want the facility but should it be done by wiping out a piece of their own clubs history?

DR we live in the real world and this is the game you have to play, get the funds get the building up and running for the local community and put the gates back on. Simple as that really.

What better money could there be than Unionist money being invested in a Nationalist area to further enhance the community spirit and well being?

You think the same investment in these loyalist dens is having any impact? Its not.

Might not be nice in the short term but we all have to play the game.

What next, change the pitch names, change the club names???

no tri-colour at the ground, no anthem? thats what it leads to.

The unionist council have got exactly what they wanted, and glenariffe got a building that they will never own. im guessing that due to it being cross community it will be run outside of their hands by a committee.

Glenariffe was never going to own the facility, it will be on their grounds, and run by Friends of Glenariffe (a separate entity)  that's why the issue of the gates came up.

I wonder how many people knew the pitch was called McAllister McVeigh Memorial before the gates where put up in 2004? Quite a few in Glenariffe wouldn't have known.

6 UUP councillors voted to grant the funding.

If the hurling club wants to use the facility they have to get in line and pay for it like everyone else. Personally I think they will be crippled by the running costs but time will tell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Lavey have the same arrangement as well, its on their grounds but they dont own it. They have to sort out with Knocklougherim for the slots and the running of it.

Those same grants are available to all clubs if they wish to avail of it. we didnt want to look at them simply because of crap like that.

Our place is open to anyone in the community to use. its been used by Ballymoney FC, Coleraine FC, Dunaghy FC, Coleraine RFC & local archery club and they are all welcome any time they want to use it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 24, 2016, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Lavey have the same arrangement as well, its on their grounds but they dont own it. They have to sort out with Knocklougherim for the slots and the running of it.

Those same grants are available to all clubs if they wish to avail of it. we didnt want to look at them simply because of crap like that.

Our place is open to anyone in the community to use. its been used by Ballymoney FC, Coleraine FC, Dunaghy FC, Coleraine RFC & local archery club and they are all welcome any time they want to use it.

Was Dunloys facility part funded in conjunction with Sport NI (or whatever they're called) rather than this local council shared initiative that Glenariffe as going with?

Surely the cross community aspect is relevant to both forms of grant aid, albeit Dunloy weren't reliant on some bigots agreeing to it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didnt have any pre-conditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. Thats £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 24, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
Just for information the funds have no been approved with no conditions ie the Gates are remaining in place. The gates were being relocated within the grounds if this was being required and thankfully this is now not the case.

Fund raising has been going on for this for a number of years and it has been a very long process.

This will be a community center available to everyone and the primary user will be the Oisin Club and this hopefully will benefit the whole community in the long run.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didnt have any pre-conditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. Thats £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2016, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 24, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
Just for information the funds have no been approved with no conditions ie the Gates are remaining in place. The gates were being relocated within the grounds if this was being required and thankfully this is now not the case.

Fund raising has been going on for this for a number of years and it has been a very long process.

This will be a community center available to everyone and the primary user will be the Oisin Club and this hopefully will benefit the whole community in the long run.

Exactly I think DR has got the wrong end of the stick here.

It is tax payers money, yes the DUP latched on to a single issue which was always there but was never a problem before.

They want to use the GAA in general as a political football but saying you wouldn't take a penny of this money is playing into their hands.

Same as the money that was invested in Dunloys building it was tax payers money the fact that Dunloy were able to keep it as solely club run is fair enough other clubs are not that lucky and have to look for other ways of development to achieve their aims.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didnt have any pre-conditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. Thats £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own

No def not, i never said that you hadnt raised any of your own money at any time. I know for a fact from speaking to people at your club that the fund raising has been on going for some time and that the members and wider area have worked hard to raise their own part.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 25, 2016, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didn't have any preconditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. That's £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own

No def not, i never said that you hadnt raised any of your own money at any time. I know for a fact from speaking to people at your club that the fund raising has been on going for some time and that the members and wider area have worked hard to raise their own part.

So if Sport NI put a condition on the funds you needed that you didn't agree with you wouldn't have taken the money.

The thing is Sport Ni probably did put a condition on the funds probably nothing too drastic but you very rarely get grants without conditions.

At the end of the day we are all tax payers the vote within the club was to detail that if this was a condition would the club be happy to agree to it.

At the end of the day this no longer matters we got the funds with no conditions and hopefully the second grant applied for will come through and the building would will start very soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 25, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 25, 2016, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didn't have any preconditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. That's £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own

No def not, i never said that you hadnt raised any of your own money at any time. I know for a fact from speaking to people at your club that the fund raising has been on going for some time and that the members and wider area have worked hard to raise their own part.

So if Sport NI put a condition on the funds you needed that you didn't agree with you wouldn't have taken the money.

The thing is Sport Ni probably did put a condition on the funds probably nothing too drastic but you very rarely get grants without conditions.

At the end of the day we are all tax payers the vote within the club was to detail that if this was a condition would the club be happy to agree to it.

At the end of the day this no longer matters we got the funds with no conditions and hopefully the second grant applied for will come through and the building would will start very soon.

Oisinog. What are you hoping to build? Indoor hall? Gym? 3G pitch? New GAA pitch etc etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2016, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 25, 2016, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didn't have any preconditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. That's £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own

No def not, i never said that you hadnt raised any of your own money at any time. I know for a fact from speaking to people at your club that the fund raising has been on going for some time and that the members and wider area have worked hard to raise their own part.

So if Sport NI put a condition on the funds you needed that you didn't agree with you wouldn't have taken the money.

The thing is Sport Ni probably did put a condition on the funds probably nothing too drastic but you very rarely get grants without conditions.

At the end of the day we are all tax payers the vote within the club was to detail that if this was a condition would the club be happy to agree to it.

At the end of the day this no longer matters we got the funds with no conditions and hopefully the second grant applied for will come through and the building would will start very soon.

If they had of told us to take down any reference to Padraig Pearse Park i for one would 100% been against the funding if that was a pre-condition of getting the money. Absolutely without question.

Look its done now, and the club voted in favour of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 26, 2016, 08:26:13 AM
Rename it Pearse Park...

I saw Sambo was in the Irish Indo yesterday bemoaning the declining state of Antrim hurling county teams.

Is it that nobody is bothered up there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
We lack the critical mass of people required to properly administrate, coach, fund and support efforts at all the levels and as a result things can be half arsed in too many areas. Plenty of people who can be bothered though. 

It would appear our county board haven't a pot to piss in. I'd love to see the differences in the support given to development squads between ourselves and healthy counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 26, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
We lack the critical mass of people required to properly administrate, coach, fund and support efforts at all the levels and as a result things can be half arsed in too many areas. Plenty of people who can be bothered though. 

It would appear our county board haven't a pot to piss in. I'd love to see the differences in the support given to development squads between ourselves and healthy counties.

Is it fair to say that we as a county haven't really bought into development quads?

Some clubs see them as more of a hindrance than anything else (losing their best player(s) to dev squad training/matches etc). Whereas in stronger counties it is the most important thing any rising star of the game could be involved in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 26, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
A few U16 Dev squad players going to Tennents Vital instead of the national tournament this weekend in Tipp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on August 26, 2016, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 26, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
A few U16 Dev squad players going to Tennents Vital instead of the national tournament this weekend in Tipp.

And no team in the Tony Forristal (under 14) tournament - seems we entered and subsequently withdrew. What's that all about?

Are we going to field in the Under 15 competition?

Saw Sambo's article. Couldn't disagree with the content but also couldn't help be struck by one of the comments underneath which basically asked why are we (Antrim) "always moaning" - just get together a plan and get on with it.

Always struck me as a little demeaning that we constantly look to outsiders to solve our problems. Haven't Croke Park said they would help financially if we were to come up with a realistic plan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on August 27, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 25, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: oisinog on August 25, 2016, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
yeah Sport NI, lottery funds and club fund raising like;
Club Dunloy - still going strong
Club Lotto
Monthly draw
Yearly fund raiser on May Day
Other smaller fund raisers

we didn't have any preconditions put on us or our grounds in receiving the money. yes it was extremely hard work and were lucky to have so many people with a keen interest in wanting to be involved. It was one of the first few about at the time so that made it a bit easier to get the funding.

Money can be raised by the simplest of things that you wouldn't think worth it. Example - tea and chocolate bars during a match. Silly some may say but for all the effort it lifted near £400 at the recent championship double header. That's £400 that didn't exist before and we have done this small thing at every home game. The simplest and smallest things all contribute to something bigger.

What irks me about this is that they had the funding sorted without any pre-conditions then someone told the DUP about the gates - something that ive never even paid attention in my many visits to the ground or noticed - and all of a sudden it was something that they could stop them getting the money for.

The DUP latched to it and knew they had the club over the barrel. It was breaking their hearts to give them money and they got their way.

I wouldn't of taken a single penny of the money after that

I am getting from that, could be wrong, that we have just went for funding without raising  any of our own ?

We have raised £170k of our own

No def not, i never said that you hadnt raised any of your own money at any time. I know for a fact from speaking to people at your club that the fund raising has been on going for some time and that the members and wider area have worked hard to raise their own part.

So if Sport NI put a condition on the funds you needed that you didn't agree with you wouldn't have taken the money.

The thing is Sport Ni probably did put a condition on the funds probably nothing too drastic but you very rarely get grants without conditions.

At the end of the day we are all tax payers the vote within the club was to detail that if this was a condition would the club be happy to agree to it.

At the end of the day this no longer matters we got the funds with no conditions and hopefully the second grant applied for will come through and the building would will start very soon.

Oisinog. What are you hoping to build? Indoor hall? Gym? 3G pitch? New GAA pitch etc etc

The initial plan is new changing facilitys and a number of multi function rooms and a gym

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Under 16 hurling tournament result
Galway 9-20 Antrim 0-2

Lads, Antrim hurling is deluded.
Ye are at Christy Ring standard and will be for the next few decades

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2016, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Under 16 hurling tournament result
Galway 9-20 Antrim 0-2

Lads, Antrim hurling is deluded.
Ye are at Christy Ring standard and will be for the next few decades
I dont think anyone is deluded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on August 27, 2016, 04:31:43 PM
The GAA is now mainly a shambles in Antrim.  The county largely covers Ireland's second city.  The GAA a number of years ago out huge money in to Dublin .  Won't happen here cos the don't need Antrim to fill croke park . 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
Nice of you to let us know manfromdelmonte. Go f**k yourself.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
Nice of you to let us know manfromdelmonte. Go f**k yourself.
I work with two girls from up that way.
They never stop going on about Antrim hurling and how good they are and they should be in the McCarthy Cup etc

How can a county with some good clubs and a great tradition as well as a huge population(even excluding the other crowd) be so poor.
I just don't get it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Loughgiel 4-24. St Galls 1-7 ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2016, 06:04:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2016, 05:00:54 PM
Nice of you to let us know manfromdelmonte. Go f**k yourself.
I work with two girls from up that way.
They never stop going on about Antrim hurling and how good they are and they should be in the McCarthy Cup etc

How can a county with some good clubs and a great tradition as well as a huge population(even excluding the other crowd) be so poor.
I just don't get it.
Take a look further back in the thread. All the answers you need are there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on August 27, 2016, 06:42:10 PM
   https://mobile.twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/769588225614680064 (https://mobile.twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/769588225614680064)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 27, 2016, 07:10:51 PM
Can we please stop trying to compare the money put into GAA in Dublin - to Belfast.

The playing population in each city is totally incomparable.

We have a fraction of the playing population even if cork Limerick or Galway.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 27, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 27, 2016, 07:10:51 PM
Can we please stop trying to compare the money put into GAA in Dublin - to Belfast.

The playing population in each city is totally incomparable.

We have a fraction of the playing population even if cork Limerick or Galway.
They don't get that "down there" . 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
We were competitive for 5 minutes, all I wanted was that our lads put on an honest shift, and most did and hurled above the level they have played all season, most did but the class difference was evident on the scoreboard at the end.

will miss the derby tomorrow, don't bring gone kids!! I heard though the psni are interested in this tie? Well I mean the last one ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Under 16 hurling tournament result
Galway 9-20 Antrim 0-2

Lads, Antrim hurling is deluded.
Ye are at Christy Ring standard and will be for the next few decades

Tell us something we don't know already. Did it take you long to figure that one out.

We have know for years we aren't good enough, it didn't happen over night.

But thanks for finding a score showing our kids getting destroyed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 27, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Under 16 hurling tournament result
Galway 9-20 Antrim 0-2

Lads, Antrim hurling is deluded.
Ye are at Christy Ring standard and will be for the next few decades

Tell us something we don't know already. Did it take you long to figure that one out.

We have know for years we aren't good enough, it didn't happen over night.

But thanks for finding a score showing our kids getting destroyed.
I was just shocked at how poor they were
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2016, 09:54:37 PM
Two very one sided senior championship games today. Hopefully the other two will be tighter. Probably a surprise st ends beating glenariffe.

I see ld beat st teresas by a bit too. Cushendun glenarm closer than expected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
We were competitive for 5 minutes, all I wanted was that our lads put on an honest shift, and most did and hurled above the level they have played all season, most did but the class difference was evident on the scoreboard at the end.

will miss the derby tomorrow, don't bring gone kids!! I heard though the psni are interested in this tie? Well I mean the last one ;)

Hopefully it will be a good game. The best ref in the county is doing it so he will keep it all under control.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 12:03:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
We were competitive for 5 minutes, all I wanted was that our lads put on an honest shift, and most did and hurled above the level they have played all season, most did but the class difference was evident on the scoreboard at the end.

will miss the derby tomorrow, don't bring gone kids!! I heard though the psni are interested in this tie? Well I mean the last one ;)

Hopefully it will be a good game. The best ref in the county is doing it so he will keep it all under control.

I'm not reffing tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2016, 06:34:09 AM
If ever there was a case that places in championships should be decided by league positions it was those 2 debacles yesterday. High time we simply had the top 8 Antrim teams in the leagues go into the senior quarter finals, the next 8 intermediate and the rest junior. I only caught the closing stages of the Loughgiel v St. Galls match but the scoreline and the atmosphere spoke for itself. In our match it was 2-6 to 0-1 after 7 minutes... game over. Creegan played a match in Owenbeg last year before us and the team they had out that day might have given us a game. But everybody knows they have thrown everything into the bog ball this year, haven't had the time for enough hurling preparation, haven't had the players for matches. Rock bottom of division 2 and it showed yesterday. 6-29 to 1-12, a complete waste of time for everyone involved. I have to say the performance of the day was St. Enda's. Well impressed with them, I thought Glenariff would have beat them with a bit to spare.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 28, 2016, 07:35:43 AM
Well done to St Endas - performance of the day without a doubt.

No doubt a happy man Last Man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 12:03:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
We were competitive for 5 minutes, all I wanted was that our lads put on an honest shift, and most did and hurled above the level they have played all season, most did but the class difference was evident on the scoreboard at the end.

will miss the derby tomorrow, don't bring gone kids!! I heard though the psni are interested in this tie? Well I mean the last one ;)

Hopefully it will be a good game. The best ref in the county is doing it so he will keep it all under control.

I'm not reffing tomorrow  ;D

Exactly.. Skinny will stay out of the spotlight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2016, 09:13:31 AM
See Cork won the Tony Forestal yesterday
https://twitter.com/TonyForristal/status/769653280628703232 (https://twitter.com/TonyForristal/status/769653280628703232)

One of the clues to their success is in the picture

Some difference to threadbare Antrim where kids smell the collective lack of ambition within Antrim and go to Avicci instead.  Is it really ALL their fault?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 12:03:42 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
We were competitive for 5 minutes, all I wanted was that our lads put on an honest shift, and most did and hurled above the level they have played all season, most did but the class difference was evident on the scoreboard at the end.

will miss the derby tomorrow, don't bring gone kids!! I heard though the psni are interested in this tie? Well I mean the last one ;)

Hopefully it will be a good game. The best ref in the county is doing it so he will keep it all under control.

I'm not reffing tomorrow  ;D

Exactly.. Skinny will stay out of the spotlight

commentators  kiss off death!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 28, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
Kudos to St Endas yesterday that's a big scalp - not a result anyone would have predicted in recent years. Hopefully they can build on it.

Out for breakfast and one errand now then looking forward to Hannahstown. League games suggest a Rossa win but Naomh Eoin will be dangerous when they know they have nothing to lose. Goals are a huge factor in these games.

Another day where part of me can't help to think of Casement all the same. A double header with the Ballycastle versus Dunloy game would be a great day for our club scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 28, 2016, 12:07:50 PM
Ballycastle vs Dunloy has the makings of the best game of the round. Tough one to call. So I'm not going to.  ;)  I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 28, 2016, 01:59:12 PM
It was Avicii's last gig ever ffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2016, 03:22:08 PM
Dunloy with a fully fit Shorty I'd go for a slim Dunloy win. Anything else I think the Town will edge it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2016, 03:22:08 PM
Dunloy with a fully fit Shorty I'd go for a slim Dunloy win. Anything else I think the Town will edge it.

So just a long way of saying you think the town will edge it then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2016, 04:01:28 PM
I don't know the guy so I don't know if he is fit or not but I was told yesterday he has been training with the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 04:41:57 PM
Hear Rossa won after being behind for most of the game until the johnnies lost two men to the line!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 09:14:02 PM
Dunlop out!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 28, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 09:14:02 PM
Dunlop out!!

Of the TT?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on August 28, 2016, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2016, 09:14:02 PM
Dunlop out!!
Out with a whimper not a bang. Dunloy leading at half time but faded badly in the second half. Ballycastle got well on top around the middle in the second half and slowly took control until they got the goal to kill Dunloy off with 5-10 minutes to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 28, 2016, 10:55:55 PM
Took in the 2 games tonight. Tir Na Og struggled for scores up front and hadn't a goal threat, C'Mills looked like getting goals everytime their full forward got on the ball.

I thought at half time that Dunloy wouldn't of been beat but fair play to Ballycastle. They took their chances when it mattered. Dunloy could regret those 2/3 missed placed balls when they needed a score to stem the flow. Young Molloy looks a class act at 17 years old and Nicky McKeague is a decent forward to. Highlight was seeing Shorty back on the pitch. A class act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 29, 2016, 02:20:06 AM
You are right Paddyjohn. Was worrying at half time but Ballycastle just had more about them in the 2nd half, Massive improved needed just to keep the ball pucked out to Loughgiel the next day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2016, 09:02:07 AM
Very similar to last year's second half. Couldn't make anything happen in the second half up front. Ballycastle sensed our lack of belief and pushed on well. Very disappointed for our lads. We have to take it on the chin and see if we can learn lessons. They've worked well all season holding 3rd in the league currently, so there's lots to be positive about going forward.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
Almost a carbon copy of last years game between Dunloy and Ballycastle. When Ballycastle turned the screw in the second half Dunloy simply could not win any meaningful ball in the middle of the park or their own forward line.

Ballycastle will have a bit of momentum now and will fancy the game against Loughgiel for another crack at the final.  Loughgiel will be a much sterner test though, they have better ball winners and hurlers in every line of the field and if Ballycastle put in a first half like last night I'd say Loughgiel will be out of sight. It'll be a tight game though.

I went and watched the Rossa and St Johns game and I'm sure the Johnnies are sick today. They played the better hurling throughout and were unlucky with the Rossa goal and one of the red cards. Rossa will need to improve massively if they are to trouble Cushendall.  I really can't see it though based on the game I saw yesterday. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 29, 2016, 01:18:12 PM
If Ballycastle play the way they did in the final last year they can beat loughgiel but a repeat of what they offered against Dunloy at the weekend wouldn't get the job done. It was more a case of Dunloys shortcomings rather than anything exceptional from the town that decided the outcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WhipHerOnJohn on August 29, 2016, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
Almost a carbon copy of last years game between Dunloy and Ballycastle. When Ballycastle turned the screw in the second half Dunloy simply could not win any meaningful ball in the middle of the park or their own forward line.

Ballycastle will have a bit of momentum now and will fancy the game against Loughgiel for another crack at the final.  Loughgiel will be a much sterner test though, they have better ball winners and hurlers in every line of the field and if Ballycastle put in a first half like last night I'd say Loughgiel will be out of sight. It'll be a tight game though.

I went and watched the Rossa and St Johns game and I'm sure the Johnnies are sick today. They played the better hurling throughout and were unlucky with the Rossa goal and one of the red cards. Rossa will need to improve massively if they are to trouble Cushendall.  I really can't see it though based on the game I saw yesterday.

+1

Rossa's use of their extra men left a lot to be desired and they were very lucky to get a result. They will need a big improvement if they are to cause Cushendall much trouble.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: WhipHerOnJohn on August 29, 2016, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
Almost a carbon copy of last years game between Dunloy and Ballycastle. When Ballycastle turned the screw in the second half Dunloy simply could not win any meaningful ball in the middle of the park or their own forward line.

Ballycastle will have a bit of momentum now and will fancy the game against Loughgiel for another crack at the final.  Loughgiel will be a much sterner test though, they have better ball winners and hurlers in every line of the field and if Ballycastle put in a first half like last night I'd say Loughgiel will be out of sight. It'll be a tight game though.

I went and watched the Rossa and St Johns game and I'm sure the Johnnies are sick today. They played the better hurling throughout and were unlucky with the Rossa goal and one of the red cards. Rossa will need to improve massively if they are to trouble Cushendall.  I really can't see it though based on the game I saw yesterday.

+1

Rossa's use of their extra men left a lot to be desired and they were very lucky to get a result. They will need a big improvement if they are to cause Cushendall much trouble.

Indiscipline costing the Johnnies another crack at Cushendall, you cant really judge this game as its very intense and game plans go out the window, I'm sure Rossa will perform a lot better next day out, they'll be allowed to hurl  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Was at hannahstown yesterday myself.
Exciting and tense although neither team looked like they would test Cushendall.

First half was points trading although I thought Naomh Eoin were picking theirs off more easily and after they had a couple of goal chances they got that break through with the goal.

It was looking like there was only one winner until the red cards.
The red cards may have been controversial as they happened as the same time but I think when you break it down they were obvious. Both players got yellow cards which could have been red in the first place. So the 2nd foul - and then verbal abuse of an official - means cunning had an easy call to make.

Curiously Rossa failed to make the numbers advantage count at all and only a scrappy goal that will haunt Naomh Eoin turned the tide for them.

Enjoyable game and the rivalry amongst the supporters as ever but I don't see anything to trouble Cushendall.

Any indications of semi final venues?
Another Loughgiel V Cushendall final would that be the general feeling?
If so I think Dunloy should be the venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??

When is there not :-[

Johnston saga continues - apparently there are looking a new club again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on August 29, 2016, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??

When is there not :-[

Johnston saga continues - apparently there are looking a new club again.

You would of thought after running Cushendall so close last year that St Johns would have pushed on this year as they have a relatively young squad.  Where do these lads want to go or why are they leaving their own club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??

When is there not :-[

Johnston saga continues - apparently there are looking a new club again.

Was doing the line the other night and Donal Nugent was staring got Lamhs????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 30, 2016, 09:31:36 AM
not sure if the final will be played at our place, we have plans to dig the main pitch up and drain the top end. if that good weather holds for a few more days it will be started this week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on August 30, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??

When is there not :-[

Johnston saga continues - apparently there are looking a new club again.

Who are looking for a new club?  Were they not always St Johns players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 30, 2016, 10:23:10 AM
Loughiel v Ballycastle will be at Cushendal or Armoy I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on August 30, 2016, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 30, 2016, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 30, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on August 29, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
Heard johnnies were missing a lot of decent players too, trouble up the whiterock??

When is there not :-[

Johnston saga continues - apparently there are looking a new club again.

Who are looking for a new club?  Were they not always St Johns players?
Rumours of them leaving the Johnnies have been going on for years. I've heard Dunloy & Slaughtniel recently. No idea what truth is in it to be honest.
I don't think that's the reason they were missing against us. They've been in America most of the summer and I heard Ciaran got a full transfer to an American club so wasn't able to transfer back to St Johns in time to play this year.

Who were they with before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 02, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
Ballycastle v Loughiel is at Glenravel ......strange choice
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 02, 2016, 04:54:06 PM
Armoy I thought would of been the choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The stig on September 02, 2016, 04:57:23 PM
If my memory serves me right I think loughgiel's recent championship record in glenravel is poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 05:07:15 PM
Glenravel isnt good for spectators trying to view the match. Thought it should have been in Cushendall. Armou would have been a better choice than Glenravel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 02, 2016, 05:12:51 PM
Cushendall and Loughgiel could be a bit of litmus test tomorrow for how the championship will go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 02, 2016, 05:42:09 PM
Rossa v Cushendall expected to be in Corrigan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 02, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 02, 2016, 05:12:51 PM
Cushendall and Loughgiel could be a bit of litmus test tomorrow for how the championship will go

I doubt it very much. Neither team will show their full hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 02, 2016, 07:11:23 PM
Jesus could they come up with 2 worse venues for spectators? Corrigan in particular is abysmal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 02, 2016, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2016, 07:11:23 PM
Jesus could they come up with 2 worse venues for spectators? Corrigan in particular is abysmal.

Agreed. I'm really disappointed. I'm starting to wonder how poor this new county board are. A recent experience with two of them was not good! Armoy has junior and intermediate final .....it had intermediate final last year too. There's no elevated area at Glenravel......this could be a bad move in more ways than one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 02, 2016, 07:11:23 PM
Jesus could they come up with 2 worse venues for spectators? Corrigan in particular is abysmal.

Where would you prefer it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 02, 2016, 10:31:05 PM
Cushendall v shamrocks match not on tomorrow, cushendall Have been given the points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
Let's be honest here. More people go to matches if held in North Antrim. Last years championship proved that. Big crowds, great atmosphere & good facilities.
The attendance at St John's v Rossa was terrible for a championship match with two teams playing on their doorstep. Awful. They put the first semi final at Corrigan because the city clubs always complain they get screwed over (bullshit).
For Cushendall v Rossa...Ballymena is half way....good viewing with bank on far side!
The other semi final...definitely not Glenravel...poor viewing. Parking is poor.

The county board made a total mess of these fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
Awful. They put the first semi final at Corrigan because the city clubs always complain they get screwed over (bullshit).

FFS
I heard a good few complaints before the venue was set about where in North Antrim Rossa would be sent to.
Maybe I shouldn't have said 'always' to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 02, 2016, 10:49:10 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
Let's be honest here. More people go to matches if held in North Antrim. Last years championship proved that. Big crowds, great atmosphere & good facilities.
The attendance at St John's v Rossa was terrible for a championship match with two teams playing on their doorstep. Awful. They put the first semi final at Corrigan because the city clubs always complain they get screwed over (bullshit).
For Cushendall v Rossa...Ballymena is half way....good viewing with bank on far side!
The other semi final...definitely not Glenravel...poor viewing. Parking is poor.

The county board made a total mess of these fixtures.

They have made a mess ..... Cushendal for the Loughiel v Ballycastle game would have been better. Think Dunloy is ruled out. Armoy is a great pitch and a great ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:38:25 PM
Awful. They put the first semi final at Corrigan because the city clubs always complain they get screwed over (bullshit).

FFS
I heard a good few complaints before the venue was set about where in North Antrim Rossa would be sent to.
Maybe I shouldn't have said 'always' to be fair.
Yeah, it's right up there with the "City clubs don't fulfil their juvenile fixtures...."
Who said that?
My point was that both venues were poor choices! Glenravel is an even worse choice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.

Because you said they are wrong??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:05:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:01:56 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.

Because you said they are wrong??
In my own opinion..Yes!
You're not short on giving yours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.
Perhaps but here, it won't matter a fcuk to the players when me and you are sliding on our arses down the grass bank at Corrigan, in the lashing rain.
That's true.
Rossa have the weather forecast already?? Fix!! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.
Perhaps but here, it won't matter a fcuk to the players when me and you are sliding on our arses down the grass bank at Corrigan, in the lashing rain.
That's true.
Rossa have the weather forecast already?? Fix!! :D

I didn't give an opinion on the venue. Nor did the other Belfast posters!! But carry on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:14:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.
Perhaps but here, it won't matter a fcuk to the players when me and you are sliding on our arses down the grass bank at Corrigan, in the lashing rain.
That's true.
Rossa have the weather forecast already?? Fix!! :D

I didn't give an opinion on the venue. Nor did the other Belfast posters!! But carry on
And where do you think they should be then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2016, 11:32:57 PM
Corrigan is ok if there are 100 spectators, any more than that and it's shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:14:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 02, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
North Antrim Board at the last county convention. They kindly retracted it after being presented with evidence to the contrary.
Well I didn't know that...but my point still stands that the semi final venues are wrong.
Perhaps but here, it won't matter a fcuk to the players when me and you are sliding on our arses down the grass bank at Corrigan, in the lashing rain.
That's true.
Rossa have the weather forecast already?? Fix!! :D

I didn't give an opinion on the venue. Nor did the other Belfast posters!! But carry on
And where do you think they should be then?

I think it's fair enough to have the semi final in a Belfast venue, no harm in that? After that pick a venue.. Can't monopolise the venues cause it's north Antrim teams winning it!! We played all our football championship finals out of casement when it was closed... We won a few!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Well a bigger neutral North Antrim attendance might have paid for next years development squads to get their county top (aka badge of honor) at the end of the season (unlike this year)  :-\

Serious Question: How do we get more than the bare minimum of West Belfast to become Gaels again? Answers on a postcard (o a strategic development questionnaire)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2016, 07:50:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Well a bigger neutral North Antrim attendance might have paid for next years development squads to get their county top (aka badge of honor) at the end of the season (unlike this year)  :-\

Serious Question: How do we get more than the bare minimum of West Belfast to become Gaels again? Answers on a postcard (o a strategic development questionnaire)

I think Belfast Gaels have done alright recently, they can get to Croke Park and win unlike others up north  :o, all be it football, Rossa at a intermediate lately, at juvenile level they have done really well at all levels too, I think the issue is ensuring this success stays at senior level!!

Said before, we've too many clubs which end up almagmating with clubs for a season or two nothing concrete... Rossa and the Johnnies won't lose their identity at hurling or football we won't at football certainly, but possibly at hurling it will take brave decisions to do it, I'd be for clubs to keep their identity at juvenile level but come senior kids need to decide if they are hurlers or footballers, to achieve something now it's nearly impossible to compete at senior in both codes.. Have a city hurling team proper, not a made up one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 08:53:01 AM
 ;D Referring to the hurldlers of Loughgiel again HS?  ;D
Let it go man  ;D

FACT: Belfast clubs have by far had the lions share of success at juvenile. I think the numbers of club in west Belfast isn't excessive when you consider the population and that level of success teams in the area have had. I bet you poor coaching/support hits the weaker clubs more than any other factor.

BUT I was talking about their poor attendances at games whether they be in Ballycastle or Belfast. It not a smug point. I think our attendances in NA should be higher as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2016, 01:18:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Well a bigger neutral North Antrim attendance might have paid for next years development squads to get their county top (aka badge of honor) at the end of the season (unlike this year)  :-\

Serious Question: How do we get more than the bare minimum of West Belfast to become Gaels again? Answers on a postcard (o a strategic development questionnaire)

Stop jumping the fences. Cowardly cnuts.

You're having a laugh. West Belfast clubs have won many minor hurling & football championships as well as ALL minor handball titles in the last 10 years but sure....we don't fulfil fixtures, we go away to the Gaeltacht during the summer, we're anti Irish.
::)

Them angelic wee lads from west Belfast never start nahim so they dont.

To go back to the subject,  Belfast should have a semi final. Its just a pity Corrigan is the only viable option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2016, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 03, 2016, 07:50:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Well a bigger neutral North Antrim attendance might have paid for next years development squads to get their county top (aka badge of honor) at the end of the season (unlike this year)  :-\

Serious Question: How do we get more than the bare minimum of West Belfast to become Gaels again? Answers on a postcard (o a strategic development questionnaire)

I think Belfast Gaels have done alright recently, they can get to Croke Park and win unlike others up north  :o, all be it football, Rossa at a intermediate lately, at juvenile level they have done really well at all levels too, I think the issue is ensuring this success stays at senior level!!

Said before, we've too many clubs which end up almagmating with clubs for a season or two nothing concrete... Rossa and the Johnnies won't lose their identity at hurling or football we won't at football certainly, but possibly at hurling it will take brave decisions to do it, I'd be for clubs to keep their identity at juvenile level but come senior kids need to decide if they are hurlers or footballers, to achieve something now it's nearly impossible to compete at senior in both codes.. Have a city hurling team proper, not a made up one

Creggan and loughgiel did ok in their finals mr unless that is a very loaded dig ;)

Is corrigan not getting one of the two semis?

Why is it that genuine questions and points about city gaa leads to such defensiveness? The gaa is struggling in west belfast or belfast in general. Many work hard at it and should be respected for it but is a valid point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
We can't talk about GAA struggling in west Belfast or needing to revitalise it - then dispute a city venue for the last city team remaining.
Some people like to complain about west Belfast GAA withering - but do nothing to help it.
Anyone would think they are happy to see it slide ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 10:23:11 AM
A championship game in Belfast will be poorly attended by Belfast folk or by NA and Derry neutrals. Support for our games in Belfast has been poor long long before Casement became a hay field. Belfast Gael are every bit as passionate when 'they're in'

Does Belfast deserve to host Championship games? Of course they do.

Does hosting Championship games in Belfast help increase spectator interest in our games? The evidence would suggest the answer is no. That's no argument to not host them in the city BTW

Important distinction when you mention the struggle
The GAA has struggled for donkeys on the terraces in Belfast but not when it comes to juvenile success and senior football in StGalls .'



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 03, 2016, 01:18:13 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Well a bigger neutral North Antrim attendance might have paid for next years development squads to get their county top (aka badge of honor) at the end of the season (unlike this year)  :-\

Serious Question: How do we get more than the bare minimum of West Belfast to become Gaels again? Answers on a postcard (o a strategic development questionnaire)

Stop jumping the fences. Cowardly cnuts.

You're having a laugh. West Belfast clubs have won many minor hurling & football championships as well as ALL minor handball titles in the last 10 years but sure....we don't fulfil fixtures, we go away to the Gaeltacht during the summer, we're anti Irish.
::)

Them angelic wee lads from west Belfast never start nahim so they dont.

To go back to the subject,  Belfast should have a semi final. Its just a pity Corrigan is the only viable option.
I don't dispute that a St Johns MINOR may have hit a Loughgiel MINOR in a MINOR hurling game to start the row but you tell me, when does it become acceptable for grown men to enter the field and attack young lads of 16, 17 & 18 years of age? Absolute scumbags.
No excuse for it. Scumbags indeed.  But the two clubs seemed to have moved on. You haven't. It was a long time ago hs. To bring this up in the discussion about semi final venues is just a bit ott. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 11:52:33 AM
....until next time it suits you to

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
I'm more than happy to play Rossa in Belfast at a ground that accommodates people watching a match but Corrigan is a disaster if a half decent crowd shows up. I'm not a fan of Ballymena either. The days of spectators, especially young kids and pensioners having to watch a match on a steep grass hill should be over. Ballycastle, Loughgiel, Dunloy, ourselves and others have proper concrete terracing and room for parking. That's where the big matches should be. A double header and a tenner in for the 2 games would have been the right option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
I'm more than happy to play Rossa in Belfast at a ground that accommodates people watching a match but Corrigan is a disaster if a half decent crowd shows up. I'm not a fan of Ballymena either. The days of spectators, especially young kids and pensioners having to watch a match on a steep grass hill should be over. Ballycastle, Loughgiel, Dunloy, ourselves and others have proper concrete terracing and room for parking. That's where the big matches should be. A double header and a tenner in for the 2 games would have been the right option.
Not enough money in that idea JJ.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2016, 03:00:01 PM
Loughgiel refuse to field in the league today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 03, 2016, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
I'm more than happy to play Rossa in Belfast at a ground that accommodates people watching a match but Corrigan is a disaster if a half decent crowd shows up. I'm not a fan of Ballymena either. The days of spectators, especially young kids and pensioners having to watch a match on a steep grass hill should be over. Ballycastle, Loughgiel, Dunloy, ourselves and others have proper concrete terracing and room for parking. That's where the big matches should be. A double header and a tenner in for the 2 games would have been the right option.

Exactly. It's not that the game is in Belfast that wrankles, it's the fact that it's being held in a substandard facility when better alternatives are available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Corrigan not good enough. 
Despite being good enough to host inter-county games this year.

Go get your prawn sandwiches and corporate seats lads.

Get over yourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 07:03:43 PM
Let's Face it, the facility is good enough to hold the 47 people that turn up to the National Football league matches!! The pitch itself isn't great, too small, poor parking and poor for spectators, particularly if it's wet!! The Johnnies will organise it to the best of their ability though. It Should have been in NA to draw a crowd, but because the usual line we have to help Hurling in The City!! but Belfast gaels won't turn out anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 03, 2016, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 07:03:43 PM
Let's Face it, the facility is good enough to hold the 47 people that turn up to the National Football league matches!! The pitch itself isn't great, too small, poor parking and poor for spectators, particularly if it's wet!! The Johnnies will organise it to the best of their ability though. It Should have been in NA to draw a crowd, but because the usual line we have to help Hurling in The City!! but Belfast gaels won't turn out anyway

The changing face of the GAA.
One hour journey too long and no heated seats for your wee back side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 03, 2016, 03:00:01 PM
Loughgiel refuse to field in the league today?
I heard it's to be re-fixed for another date.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
It won't be refixed now, as it was Loughgeil who agreed to that date, and the excuses where complete bull!! We did you a favour and you've been avoiding this match for 5 months, for what reason?? It's cost us a lot of Gate money and probably created uneeded animosity between the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
It won't be refixed now, as it was Loughgeil who agreed to that date, and the excuses where complete bull!! We did you a favour and you've been avoiding this match for 5 months, for what reason?? It's cost us a lot of Gate money and probably created uneeded animosity between the clubs.
only repeating what i heard. Settle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 11:01:57 PM
As a good will gesture Loughgiel should compensate the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 12:13:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 11:01:57 PM
As a good will gesture Loughgiel should compensate the dall

Compensation will be based on an average gate between two city teams though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2016, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 12:13:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 11:01:57 PM
As a good will gesture Loughgiel should compensate the dall

Compensation will be based on an average gate between two city teams though
2d and thruppence?   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2016, 01:09:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2016, 12:35:51 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 12:13:20 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 03, 2016, 11:01:57 PM
As a good will gesture Loughgiel should compensate the dall

Compensation will be based on an average gate between two city teams though
2d and thruppence?   :P


These city Gaels have an awful complex..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
No prawn sandwiches but it would be nice to not have to stand on a hill like a ski jump or try and watch a match through 6 foot high chicken wire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 04, 2016, 07:58:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
It won't be refixed now, as it was Loughgeil who agreed to that date, and the excuses where complete bull!! We did you a favour and you've been avoiding this match for 5 months, for what reason?? It's cost us a lot of Gate money and probably created uneeded animosity between the clubs.
only repeating what i heard. Settle.

Typical SIE, spouting off on hearsay and probably hasn't got a clue what has gone before.

Failure to field, is what it is, there are rules that will be applied in such cases.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Brocky on September 04, 2016, 08:41:58 AM
You're the one that hasn't got a clue. Ask yourself why it was called off in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
No prawn sandwiches but it would be nice to not have to stand on a hill like a ski jump or try and watch a match through 6 foot high chicken wire.

In fairness some of the pitches up in NA could do with some six ft high chicken wire, maybe provide a bit of a challenge to the professional fence jumpers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 04, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Quote from: Brocky on September 04, 2016, 08:41:58 AM
You're the one that hasn't got a clue. Ask yourself why it was called off in the first place.

It was called off by the Antrim sen hurling management team initially, no fault of Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2016, 11:50:05 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 04, 2016, 07:58:48 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 03, 2016, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 03, 2016, 10:36:04 PM
It won't be refixed now, as it was Loughgeil who agreed to that date, and the excuses where complete bull!! We did you a favour and you've been avoiding this match for 5 months, for what reason?? It's cost us a lot of Gate money and probably created uneeded animosity between the clubs.
only repeating what i heard. Settle.

Typical SIE, spouting off on hearsay and probably hasn't got a clue what has gone before.

Failure to field, is what it is, there are rules that will be applied in such cases.
"spouting off on hearsay"  hmmmmm.  ???

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=516198021900775&id=150387428481838
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 12:13:16 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=653173024832524&id=204332209716610
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 04, 2016, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 12:13:16 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=653173024832524&id=204332209716610
I seen that. Rules is rules. If they failed to field then so be it. No argument in that. I was just repeating what I was told and saw on the facebook page. You'd nearly think I was involved in a conspiracy.    ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2016, 05:08:52 PM
Any predictions for this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
No prawn sandwiches but it would be nice to not have to stand on a hill like a ski jump or try and watch a match through 6 foot high chicken wire.

In fairness some of the pitches up in NA could do with some six ft high chicken wire, maybe provide a bit of a challenge to the professional fence jumpers.


Bit of a statement there Gizzy.. Ever been a victim or just spouting for the sake of it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 05, 2016, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
No prawn sandwiches but it would be nice to not have to stand on a hill like a ski jump or try and watch a match through 6 foot high chicken wire.

In fairness some of the pitches up in NA could do with some six ft high chicken wire, maybe provide a bit of a challenge to the professional fence jumpers.


Bit of a statement there Gizzy.. Ever been a victim or just spouting for the sake of it?


Moneyglass MFC around 1996 I was about 14/15 on the bench and I was also a spectator in Loughile around 1995 when spectators jumped the wire in MHC. Both incidents scared the shit outta me and both involved attacks on underage players from adults. So I can spout off if I want as I have been affected and think the incidents are disgusting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2016, 05:29:48 AM
Moneyglass isn't in North Antrim and 1995 was 21 years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 07:43:42 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2016, 05:29:48 AM
Moneyglass isn't in North Antrim and 1995 was 21 years ago.

It's not in Belfast is the point and he's mentioned Loughguiel...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 06, 2016, 08:31:03 AM
I dont know where loughile or lougiuel are.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 08:54:58 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 05, 2016, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 05, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 04, 2016, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 04, 2016, 06:34:26 AM
No prawn sandwiches but it would be nice to not have to stand on a hill like a ski jump or try and watch a match through 6 foot high chicken wire.

In fairness some of the pitches up in NA could do with some six ft high chicken wire, maybe provide a bit of a challenge to the professional fence jumpers.


Bit of a statement there Gizzy.. Ever been a victim or just spouting for the sake of it?


Moneyglass MFC around 1996 I was about 14/15 on the bench and I was also a spectator in Loughile around 1995 when spectators jumped the wire in MHC. Both incidents scared the shit outta me and both involved attacks on underage players from adults. So I can spout off if I want as I have been affected and think the incidents are disgusting.


Ah right fair enough. When I was minor, I got spat at walking off Rossa Park, took a slap in the bear pit and got hit off the ball in Corrigan, Ban them clubs involved.

People jumping fences and becoming involved is an unacceptable thing that happens in our games, like the verbal abuse of officials.  How would you suggest we stop it or police it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 09:21:25 AM
I agree, those men & women who do it should be hunted but we all play a part in stopping it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 06, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
how the feck did yous get from talking about the poor venues decisions to people jumping fences  ???

back to the original , as a spectator both semi venues IMHO where poor decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 06, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
how the feck did yous get from talking about the poor venues decisions to people jumping fences  ???

back to the original , as a spectator both semi venues IMHO where poor decisions.

Its them McCooeys, they always bring up the past.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2016, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
Clubs should rid themselves of anyone who jumps the fence to attack a kid. Simply tell them not to darken the door again. The lowest of the low.

I once attended a game where a trade started right on the sideline in front of where I was watching the game. One of our players was on the ground (right against the fence) and an opposition player (in a thick schmozzle) was attempting to kick and stamp on his head. I reached over, grabbed him and held him against to fence so as to stop him. One mentor/bottle carrier was not concerned about his players poor discipline and thought I'd no right to stop him kicking a player in the head. 

Its not always back and white. I'm happy enough with the choice made
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
We all know the difference between breaking up a row and going on to the field to hit youngsters. Although you were wrong to hold an opposition player against the fence while 3 of your men got tore into him...... ;)

You see that's the bit I have trouble with, a row amongst players themselves can be pretty bad, I've always found that the third party peace makers (or whatever they are motivated by) more often than not exacerbate the problem and all hell can break lose.

More often than not I'd be inclined to let the players sort it out themselves, albeit you wouldn't want anyone taking a serious beating like skull witnessed.

I've taken exception to a mentor from another team entering the field of play and "breaking up a fight" by putting one of our lads in a headlock and taking a bit of a pummeling from the other aggressor in the melee. The mentor in question wasn't long realising the error of his ways once I succinctly explained to him where he went wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
What I've learned on here this week, Don't hit kids & Corrigan and Glenravel are dung holes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 06, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
We all know the difference between breaking up a row and going on to the field to hit youngsters. Although you were wrong to hold an opposition player against the fence while 3 of your men got tore into him...... ;)

You see that's the bit I have trouble with, a row amongst players themselves can be pretty bad, I've always found that the third party peace makers (or whatever they are motivated by) more often than not exacerbate the problem and all hell can break lose.

More often than not I'd be inclined to let the players sort it out themselves, albeit you wouldn't want anyone taking a serious beating like skull witnessed.

I've taken exception to a mentor from another team entering the field of play and "breaking up a fight" by putting one of our lads in a headlock and taking a bit of a pummeling from the other aggressor in the melee. The mentor in question wasn't long realising the error of his ways once I succinctly explained to him where he went wrong.

was that against us at your ground?  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 12:40:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
What I've learned on here this week, Don't hit kids & Corrigan and Glenravel are dung holes.

You had to come on here to learn that?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 06, 2016, 12:55:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 06, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
We all know the difference between breaking up a row and going on to the field to hit youngsters. Although you were wrong to hold an opposition player against the fence while 3 of your men got tore into him...... ;)

You see that's the bit I have trouble with, a row amongst players themselves can be pretty bad, I've always found that the third party peace makers (or whatever they are motivated by) more often than not exacerbate the problem and all hell can break lose.

More often than not I'd be inclined to let the players sort it out themselves, albeit you wouldn't want anyone taking a serious beating like skull witnessed.

I've taken exception to a mentor from another team entering the field of play and "breaking up a fight" by putting one of our lads in a headlock and taking a bit of a pummeling from the other aggressor in the melee. The mentor in question wasn't long realising the error of his ways once I succinctly explained to him where he went wrong.

was that against us at your ground?  :o

No, but one of the third party protagonists who IMO should not have been involved got what he deserved and he is from my club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 12:55:45 PM
Everyday is a school day.

Anyway,

Loughiel by 5 & C'Dall by 7.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2016, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
We all know the difference between breaking up a row and going on to the field to hit youngsters. Although you were wrong to hold an opposition player against the fence while 3 of your men got tore into him...... ;)
Sure he was wearing a helmet  ;D
In all seriousness though .. I could have got a belt across the head for my troubles ... and then it descends even further into madness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
to be fair glenravel is a poor place to have to go and watch a big match, theres no car parking worth talking about and no good viewing facilty for a large crowd.

i was going to head to that game but im not going to a pitch where you will struggle to park or get a decent place to stand to watch it - also them fecking midges are an utter curse there also lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 06, 2016, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
to be fair glenravel is a poor place to have to go and watch a big match, theres no car parking worth talking about and no good viewing facilty for a large crowd.

i was going to head to that game but im not going to a pitch where you will struggle to park or get a decent place to stand to watch it - also them fecking midges are an utter curse there also lol

Did they host a final (maybe a semi) around 1990ish and the place came to a complete standstill with people abandoning their cars with tailbacks to ballymena and cushendall, im not sure but as a lad i remember going up to a big game there and it was a complete mess with my da vowing never to be back near it for that type of game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 02:53:35 PM
I work with 2 Glenravel people and they seem to be shocked they got the game and weren't expecting it given the size of the crowd expected. Would Glenravel not of been better getting the IHC & JHC double header and Armoy the SHC semi? Suppose parking isn't any better there, but at least there isn't people parking on the main road into the Glens on a Sunday afternoon. 

Just checking the county website there for fixtures and they've Glenravel down to play Moneyglass on Sunday at 3pm in Div2b Football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2016, 02:57:51 PM
i mind being there for games as a kid and taking an age to get out of the place. its not a good place to host a game.

Even the other week there over in Lgiel was a torture to get parked up at. the cars all on one side and traffic unable to get past. Must be bad for the locals to cope with it on match day.

I know even our place is bad on county final day last year and we had cars parked up in the ground, the chapel grounds, pub car park and the parish hall and it was still busting with cars. Only saving grace is we can get the cars out good and quickly and away home.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 03:13:13 PM
Glenravel is not a hurling pitch never mind all the rest, it simply is not a hurling pitch.

Can someone answer me what Armoy intend to do with the players/ spectators/ cars/ officials mixing as they leave the pitch only to have to cross an entire other pitch. To me that is a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
How it is not a Hurling pitch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
The implication being I'm sure that the grass is cut to suit getting your toe under a ball. Hardly a contentious point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
I was up at the Feis at the pitch was like a carpet, and the length was super.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 06, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 03:13:13 PM
Glenravel is not a hurling pitch never mind all the rest, it simply is not a hurling pitch.

Can someone answer me what Armoy intend to do with the players/ spectators/ cars/ officials mixing as they leave the pitch only to have to cross an entire other pitch. To me that is a recipe for disaster.

In previous years they put up harris fencing between changing rooms and second pitch, not ideal.

Cdall should have been the venue for the senior semi between shams and town. Simple as that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 03:40:55 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 06, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 03:13:13 PM
Glenravel is not a hurling pitch never mind all the rest, it simply is not a hurling pitch.

Can someone answer me what Armoy intend to do with the players/ spectators/ cars/ officials mixing as they leave the pitch only to have to cross an entire other pitch. To me that is a recipe for disaster.

In previous years they put up harris fencing between changing rooms and second pitch, not ideal.

Cdall should have been the venue for the senior semi between shams and town. Simple as that.
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Nail on the head there..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 03:44:05 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 06, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2016, 03:13:13 PM
Glenravel is not a hurling pitch never mind all the rest, it simply is not a hurling pitch.

Can someone answer me what Armoy intend to do with the players/ spectators/ cars/ officials mixing as they leave the pitch only to have to cross an entire other pitch. To me that is a recipe for disaster.

In previous years they put up harris fencing between changing rooms and second pitch, not ideal.

Cdall should have been the venue for the senior semi between shams and town. Simple as that.

Well that's something.

It is not a hurling pitch because a number or things most of them not really tangible or explainable. Atmosphere and feeling being among them, not saying its not a decent pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 06, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
I was up at the Feis at the pitch was like a carpet, and the length was super.

It was indeed like a carpet .... a shagpile carpet. Was the football final any good?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 04:24:49 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 06, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
I was up at the Feis at the pitch was like a carpet, and the length was super.

It was indeed like a carpet .... a shagpile carpet. Was the football final any good?  :)

No it wasn't as the 2 clubs involved played it on a different date to suit themsleves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 06, 2016, 06:08:35 PM
Jesus lads when did we start getting precious about Antrim venues. Without Casement there is no real difference in my opinion with the exception of Ballycastle perhaps but given neither them nor their opponents can host I think anywhere else can have holes picked in it.

I was at football matches in Ballymena and Ahoghill last weekend and both did the job the very best but Ballymena has a narrow path round it while Ahoghill means driving around country lanes and feck all parking.

Creggan also gets a lot of games and is similar to Ahoghill in terms of access and parking. I was in Dunloy last year and it was a complete disaster, granted I should have been wise to it and given myself more time but I missed the first 10 mins of the match and took an age to get away.

Armoy probably most central but has absolutely no elevation, limited parking and again is accessed via a road that is like a country lane.

Youse are like a crowd of insular houers the whining going on here. I do not think Glenravel is any better or any worse than the alternatives in terms of parking, it is however on a main road and in terms of facilities and playing surface it is among the best in the county. Not sure if there is much elevation though but given it is not being given to Croke Park I think it is as good a choice as any.

As for Corrigan, again I am not sure what alternative is any better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 06, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Hectic ya clown, you've spent your first 4 paragraphs whinging!!! I certainly don't agree with the Dunloy opinion (which you contradicted yourself on anyway) it was fantastically well run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 06, 2016, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 06, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Hectic ya clown, you've spent your first 4 paragraphs whinging!!! I certainly don't agree with the Dunloy opinion (which you contradicted yourself on anyway) it was fantastically well run.

No contradiction at all. To simplify my point is that we are not blessed with venues to host the big games in this county. All venues used have their flaws but they 'do the job'.  As such I do not think it is justified devoting a few pages of whining on here to choices of venue that are no better or worse than the alternatives. Is that a simpler bite for you to take?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2016, 07:10:27 PM
What's the drawback with Cushendall? Surely that is where the loughgiel v ballycastle should have been? More parking than anywhere else with parking at the pitch, youth club, pitch across the road and the boat club. Ballycastle folk head through the village home and send the rest up Glenariff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 06, 2016, 07:17:44 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 06, 2016, 07:10:27 PM
What's the drawback with Cushendall? Surely that is where the loughgiel v ballycastle should have been? More parking than anywhere else with parking at the pitch, youth club, pitch across the road and the boat club. Ballycastle folk head through the village home and send the rest up Glenariff.

That would work for me too but I am happy to go to Glenravel as well for a change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??

Maybe it depends who they are friendly with!
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they don't.
Or maybe someone in the host club had some sway.
It's the same in every county - particularly if the county ground isn't an obvious option :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??

Maybe it depends who they are friendly with!
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they don't.
Or maybe someone in the host club had some sway.
It's the same in every county - particularly if the county ground isn't an obvious option :-[

So you think Rossa said they want Corrigan? Corrigan was used last year as was Lamhs, that was the choice I'd imagine for a Belfast venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 06, 2016, 09:06:56 PM
The Venue's for all Championship games were chosen by 3 Men Frankie, Terry, and Collie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??

Maybe it depends who they are friendly with!
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they don't.
Or maybe someone in the host club had some sway.
It's the same in every county - particularly if the county ground isn't an obvious option :-[

So you think Rossa said they want Corrigan? Corrigan was used last year as was Lamhs, that was the choice I'd imagine for a Belfast venue.

I was more thinking our county chairman giving his own club a turn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??

Maybe it depends who they are friendly with!
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they don't.
Or maybe someone in the host club had some sway.
It's the same in every county - particularly if the county ground isn't an obvious option :-[

So you think Rossa said they want Corrigan? Corrigan was used last year as was Lamhs, that was the choice I'd imagine for a Belfast venue.

I was more thinking our county chairman giving his own club a turn.

We've played plenty championship games at Corrigan... If the johnnys had have not lost a few players against Rossa it would have been in Lamhs??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 09:35:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 06, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
Definitely some people getting very precious about our venues.

Also - have the clubs involved input been considered?

Do you think clubs have an input??

Maybe it depends who they are friendly with!
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they don't.
Or maybe someone in the host club had some sway.
It's the same in every county - particularly if the county ground isn't an obvious option :-[

So you think Rossa said they want Corrigan? Corrigan was used last year as was Lamhs, that was the choice I'd imagine for a Belfast venue.

I was more thinking our county chairman giving his own club a turn.

We've played plenty championship games at Corrigan... If the johnnys had have not lost a few players against Rossa it would have been in Lamhs??

Reasonable assumption.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Were precious about the venue because when we land to a ground and someone wants £7 or £10 to watch a match you expect the venue to be worth that money.

I went the other week to the Derry football championship. A double header for £8, a seat and shelter to watch the game. Yes you have to park down the road but you don't mind that as its a decent venue. i know its not fair to compare Derry to Antrim as we have no ground to call 'home' but its been like that for years.

If the game was in Cushendall i would of went but theres no way on earth im attempting to go to glenravel to a ground where theres limited places to stand and watch a game. Im not slating Glenravels pitch or facilities, they are adequate for the crowds they get at games but to take a game to a venue that cant hold a massive crowd is utter stupidity.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2016, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Were precious about the venue because when we land to a ground and someone wants £7 or £10 to watch a match you expect the venue to be worth that money.

I went the other week to the Derry football championship. A double header for £8, a seat and shelter to watch the game. Yes you have to park down the road but you don't mind that as its a decent venue. i know its not fair to compare Derry to Antrim as we have no ground to call 'home' but its been like that for years.

If the game was in Cushendall i would of went but theres no way on earth im attempting to go to glenravel to a ground where theres limited places to stand and watch a game. Im not slating Glenravels pitch or facilities, they are adequate for the crowds they get at games but to take a game to a venue that cant hold a massive crowd is utter stupidity.

Similar question to the City venue - why do you think Glenravel was chosen?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 09:51:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 07, 2016, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Were precious about the venue because when we land to a ground and someone wants £7 or £10 to watch a match you expect the venue to be worth that money.

I went the other week to the Derry football championship. A double header for £8, a seat and shelter to watch the game. Yes you have to park down the road but you don't mind that as its a decent venue. i know its not fair to compare Derry to Antrim as we have no ground to call 'home' but its been like that for years.

If the game was in Cushendall i would of went but theres no way on earth im attempting to go to glenravel to a ground where theres limited places to stand and watch a game. Im not slating Glenravels pitch or facilities, they are adequate for the crowds they get at games but to take a game to a venue that cant hold a massive crowd is utter stupidity.

Similar question to the City venue - why do you think Glenravel was chosen?

Was there not a Glenravel man on the Saffron vision ticket at the start of the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
What sort of precentage of the gate do the host club get anyway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 07, 2016, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Were precious about the venue because when we land to a ground and someone wants £7 or £10 to watch a match you expect the venue to be worth that money.

I went the other week to the Derry football championship. A double header for £8, a seat and shelter to watch the game. Yes you have to park down the road but you don't mind that as its a decent venue. i know its not fair to compare Derry to Antrim as we have no ground to call 'home' but its been like that for years.

If the game was in Cushendall i would of went but theres no way on earth im attempting to go to glenravel to a ground where theres limited places to stand and watch a game. Im not slating Glenravels pitch or facilities, they are adequate for the crowds they get at games but to take a game to a venue that cant hold a massive crowd is utter stupidity.

Similar question to the City venue - why do you think Glenravel was chosen?

Our grounds closed. the drainage works started this morning so there was no way it was happening there.

Outside of ourselves (Bcastle & Lgiel cant host) theres only one other ground capable to take decent crowd and it was cushendall. Parking would of been a mare but what other grounds in antrim has a large car parking area available?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
What sort of precentage of the gate do the host club get anyway?
10% IIRC of the gate, which they take away with them and count. they then send you a cheque and you accept that as gospel  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:34:01 AM
I find Glenravel to be very accessible - fair enough I am coming through Ballymena where there is an A class road and I appreciate that many North Antrim hurling supporters have to drive along paths for miles to get to a main road but Jesus wept you would think people were being asked to go to Malin Head and abseil down onto the beach to watch a game with some of the responses on here.

Good information on why Dunloy is not available from previous poster - I suppose at the start it was probably the obvious choice but that clears that one up.  And as I pointed out earlier Dunloy was a mare last year because of the roadworks (nothing to do with the efforts of the club) and as such maybe the lesson is there for people to get to Glenravel early on Sunday if there are likely to be traffic problems.

Talking about value for money by others - surely that will be determined by the match itself - no?  Or maybe Glenravel will stick on some prawn sandwiches for those who are looking for the executive treatment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..

That is the very problem here - I would like to see the site at Antrim getting shifted on and to a standard that all these games could be played there - good central location for the whole county and good transport links - not sure if that is a consideration though for this development or whether it is purely a centre of excellence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2016, 10:41:08 AM
Very true Hectic & PaddyJohn.

On to the games.
Corrigan for me but I expect Cushendall to kick into championship mode and pull away from Rossa.
I haven't seen enough hurling this year being away but I assume the Shams will be favoured against Ballycastle or are we giving the famine a chance to end?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..

That is the very problem here - I would like to see the site at Antrim getting shifted on and to a standard that all these games could be played there - good central location for the whole county and good transport links - not sure if that is a consideration though for this development or whether it is purely a centre of excellence.

Surely this is the biggest argument for the Dunsilly project to be the main focus and forget Casement. Phase two should be a nice tidy 15/20k ground with stands plenty of facilities for families and lots of parking. This is exactly what Antrim needs for OUR games, not a behemoth that is not our own and is not fit for purpose.

Not trying to hash up the old argument but just seems to me that this is the perfect example for what we as Antrim Gaels require. Which this discussion has highlighted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:58:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..

That is the very problem here - I would like to see the site at Antrim getting shifted on and to a standard that all these games could be played there - good central location for the whole county and good transport links - not sure if that is a consideration though for this development or whether it is purely a centre of excellence.

Surely this is the biggest argument for the Dunsilly project to be the main focus and forget Casement. Phase two should be a nice tidy 15/20k ground with stands plenty of facilities for families and lots of parking. This is exactly what Antrim needs for OUR games, not a behemoth that is not our own and is not fit for purpose.

Not trying to hash up the old argument but just seems to me that this is the perfect example for what we as Antrim Gaels require. Which this discussion has highlighted.

Yeah plus that gives us a stadium to suit our needs where atmosphere would be much better than a half empty ground for county championship games and still not too big that club championship games would be totally out of place.  But sure we all know there is a lot more to Casement than the basic needs of Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..

That is the very problem here - I would like to see the site at Antrim getting shifted on and to a standard that all these games could be played there - good central location for the whole county and good transport links - not sure if that is a consideration though for this development or whether it is purely a centre of excellence.

Surely this is the biggest argument for the Dunsilly project to be the main focus and forget Casement. Phase two should be a nice tidy 15/20k ground with stands plenty of facilities for families and lots of parking. This is exactly what Antrim needs for OUR games, not a behemoth that is not our own and is not fit for purpose.

Not trying to hash up the old argument but just seems to me that this is the perfect example for what we as Antrim Gaels require. Which this discussion has highlighted.

Spot on NAG1. We need a stadium and ground that will host these games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
What sort of precentage of the gate do the host club get anyway?
10% IIRC of the gate, which they take away with them and count. they then send you a cheque and you accept that as gospel  ::)

Haha you sound suspicious
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
What sort of precentage of the gate do the host club get anyway?
10% IIRC of the gate, which they take away with them and count. they then send you a cheque and you accept that as gospel  ::)

Haha you sound suspicious

Any wonder?

I've heard of club waiting 6 months to a year on money they are owed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 12:08:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2016, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 07, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
What sort of precentage of the gate do the host club get anyway?
10% IIRC of the gate, which they take away with them and count. they then send you a cheque and you accept that as gospel  ::)

Haha you sound suspicious

Any wonder?

I've heard of club waiting 6 months to a year on money they are owed.

After what i heard Ballycastle got to compensate them for the wear and damage to their pitch for their pitch being used by the county i cast doubt on any money a club gets.

With regards to the other argument i def think its time to move on with Dunsilly and look for a pitch with a sheltered stand to hold 10-15k people - essentially an Owenbeg. Casement could be another 10 years at the rate this crap is going on and we as a county need to be looking for our own needs first and foremost

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 07, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 07, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Pity we didn't have a county ground..

That is the very problem here - I would like to see the site at Antrim getting shifted on and to a standard that all these games could be played there - good central location for the whole county and good transport links - not sure if that is a consideration though for this development or whether it is purely a centre of excellence.

Surely this is the biggest argument for the Dunsilly project to be the main focus and forget Casement. Phase two should be a nice tidy 15/20k ground with stands plenty of facilities for families and lots of parking. This is exactly what Antrim needs for OUR games, not a behemoth that is not our own and is not fit for purpose.

Not trying to hash up the old argument but just seems to me that this is the perfect example for what we as Antrim Gaels require. Which this discussion has highlighted.

100% true NAG.

We need an Owenbeg not the mess that is Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
If so, why is there so much support in Antrim for Casement? Are we supporting our clubs and perhaps our county being robbed of a much needed venue?

HS just look at where the push is coming from for the new Casement - it is nearly exclusive to the Clubs. Interest groups and Community Organisations pushing now.

Those that are supporting it out of loyalty are yes in fact supporting each of us being robbed of OUR ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2016, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2016, 12:23:55 PM
If so, why is there so much support in Antrim for Casement? Are we supporting our clubs and perhaps our county being robbed of a much needed venue?

Don't tell me a wise fool like yourself believes the Pairc Casement PR campaign? There is no hard support that I have heard for Casement to be the venue where Antrim play their matches and county finals/semi finals are played.

There might be support for getting a stadium built for nothing but that's not a stadium that will suit Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 07, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
Can we quit the Dunsilly V Casement debate.
Its irrelevant.
Casement will be built.
What Antrim think is irrelevant - it's not being build with Antrim money.
By all means support Dunsilly if you wish, but its an irrelevant argument to Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 07, 2016, 12:44:46 PM
The problem with Glenravel is very simply that there's no elevated/sloped viewing. If you're not against the fence you're going to struggle to watch the game. Given that we only get 2 or 3 quality competitive hurling championship games a year this is a mistake. Glenravel is 100 years old this year ......is that the reason? Think I'll camp out the night before the game .....tent tight to the fence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 07, 2016, 12:44:46 PM
The problem with Glenravel is very simply that there's no elevated/sloped viewing. If you're not against the fence you're going to struggle to watch the game. Given that we only get 2 or 3 quality competitive hurling championship games a year this is a mistake. Glenravel is 100 years old this year ......is that the reason? Think I'll camp out the night before the game .....tent tight to the fence.

I think it is a great reward for the club in their 100th year and no one would argue with that logic.

If that is the case though why not some temporary arrangements for the game for spectators?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2016, 01:18:30 PM
Would be up to the county to provide it and cover the costs/insurances etc for the game. i have zero faith in them being able to undertake this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 07, 2016, 02:49:20 PM
What is the standard attendance for semi finals anyway - I am a terrible judge of numbers when looking at a crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 07, 2016, 02:59:36 PM
Guessing ... Id say that Glenravel has viewing for 1000-1500 people tops

St Johns ... if people bring their wellies to keep their feet dry could facilitate 2 to 3 times that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 07, 2016, 05:18:57 PM
I reckon about 1000 - 1500.......how many can stand single file round a pitch? Can you imagine if it rains and umbrellas go up? The entertainment will end up outside the fence .......anyway its going to be great weather, a great match, easy to see and we could all use the 15 minute walk to the pitch. ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2016, 09:36:10 AM
its not an idea venue but theres nothing can be done now about it now. Just have to follow it on twitter instead.

SIE get that twitter feed of yours running on sunday for us! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2016, 09:44:15 AM
From the countys page

Parking advice for the Bathshack Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final Ballycastle v Loughgiel : Sunday 11th September 2016 at Con Magees GAC, Fr Maginn Park, Glenravel. 4pm Throw In.

Limited parking in the grounds of Fr Maginn Park; priority for players, officials and disabled badge holders. Additional carpark located off the main road, entrance 50 metres on the Cargan side of Con Magee's GAC entrance which will be clearly signposted.

Please follow the direction of the stewards in attendance. Please allow 15 minutes to park and walk to the pitch.

Admission £8  Thank you for your co-operation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 09:50:22 AM
50 metres on the Cargan side? Means we may bring the wellies!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:06:16 AM
Yeah sure next season we will hopefully be back in the all seated stadiums on the main arterial routes. Imbeciles!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:06:16 AM
Yeah sure next season we will hopefully be back in the all seated stadiums on the main arterial routes. Imbeciles!

Why are you for building one inside the next 6-9 months?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
That is my point exactly. I do not know if Glenravel is the best choice but it certainly is not a bad choice. You would think we were spoilt for choice with the whining here. There has hardly been a mention of the game which I really hope to get up to see but if I do not make it the reason will not be the location.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:37:16 AM
That is my point exactly. I do not know if Glenravel is the best choice but it certainly is not a bad choice. You would think we were spoilt for choice with the whining here. There has hardly been a mention of the game which I really hope to get up to see but if I do not make it the reason will not be the location.

There is certain degree of truth in the whining though. The Glenravel Club are good club and I enjoy going to watch games there but I feel it's not the correct venue for this game and that isn't a slight on the club in any way shape or form.

I'm thinking of the fact there is very little viewing or parking available when there is a perfectly good option in Cushendall if it was available with plenty of parking in surrounding car parks and easy away.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 11:52:00 AM
I would assume by those directions above that they must be using a field as a carpark. That was the arrangement last Friday night in Ahoghill. Field had a good slope on it too. I would say that from we joined the queue until we got pitch side it was at least 15 mins but I heard no whining. Few wise craics but nothing more. Maybe hurling supporters are a more fragile breed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 11:58:25 AM
Actually just had a look on google maps and there is a massive field beside their second pitch and another on the way in.  Wonder why they are not being used.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 12:34:08 PM
Hectic the main objection is simply the inability to view the game. It's a perfectly valid point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2016, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:06:16 AM
Yeah sure next season we will hopefully be back in the all seated stadiums on the main arterial routes. Imbeciles!

I fail to see how people being pissed off at a venue of a big match makes them an imbecile? esp neutral fans who want to watch a game.

The county have made a mistake in their choice and it will cost them plenty of peoples cash. I asked the aul boy if he wanted to go last night and he wouldn't entertain it - him a man who would travel the length of Ireland for a county hurling final.

Like others said yday its time for antrim to look at developing their own smaller venue for big games like this. Dont even say Casement Park because its so far off the radar for us we may forget about it until such times as it become a realistic venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 12:34:08 PM
Hectic the main objection is simply the inability to view the game. It's a perfectly valid point.

Perfectly valid indeed. Anyway, have bate the venue thing to death. Many on here giving Ballycastle a strong chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2016, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 10:06:16 AM
Yeah sure next season we will hopefully be back in the all seated stadiums on the main arterial routes. Imbeciles!

I fail to see how people being pissed off at a venue of a big match makes them an imbecile? esp neutral fans who want to watch a game.

The county have made a mistake in their choice and it will cost them plenty of peoples cash. I asked the aul boy if he wanted to go last night and he wouldn't entertain it - him a man who would travel the length of Ireland for a county hurling final.

Like others said yday its time for antrim to look at developing their own smaller venue for big games like this. Dont even say Casement Park because its so far off the radar for us we may forget about it until such times as it become a realistic venue.

Was thinking more the idea of having to park and walk taking 15 mins.

Anyway what are the predictions for the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 08, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
Development squads didn't get their county jersey (their badge of honor) at the end of the year - not enough money to invest in our future

Then we fix a match(s) that could loose the county I'm guessing 5-10K in potential income, which would easily have helped us invest in our future  :-\ 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 08, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Cushendall had offered their pitch for the use of the other semi final, but didn't get it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
Colum Cunning to referee the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 08, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Cushendall had offered their pitch for the use of the other semi final, but didn't get it

Any reason why they didn't?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 08, 2016, 06:49:20 PM
Cushendall didn't get a reason other than it may be considered for future games, ie jobs for the boys again!!
Again I wouldn't be concerned that we didn't get it as we'd all have to Steward, but For supporters going to watch the match the viewing in The Dall is much superior than that in Fr Maginn Park, to be able to see the match isn't something we should apologise for.The car parking issue is a problem wherever you go. Over the 2 days We are pissing 10k down the drain, Why? Surely that would help finish Dunsilly a lot quicker!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 08, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
Hectic I give Ballycastle a good chance. The weather is to be poor on Sunday that'll suit a big strong team like Ballycastle, particularly on a tight pitch like Glenravel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
Yeah would not be surprised if Ballycastle came out on top myself. They certainly will have the hunger to match their ability and a few players right on top of their game recently.

Last time I played in Glenravel it was one of the biggest pitches in the county. Did they have to reduce it for their new facilities. Have watched games there in the last few years and never noticed much difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 08, 2016, 08:26:43 PM
Think Cushendall will beat Rossa by 6-8 points. C'Dall should be too good but I expect a battle.

L'Giel to beat Ballycastle by the same amount. Ballycastle were very relient on frees the last day & haven't reached last years form. It's very quiet over in Loughgiel at the minute (especially the posters in here). That's a good sign..they're my favourites for the C'Ship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 08, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
Hectic I give Ballycastle a good chance. The weather is to be poor on Sunday that'll suit a big strong team like Ballycastle, particularly on a tight pitch like Glenravel.

When was the last time your played on Fr Maginn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 08, 2016, 08:45:48 PM
Glenravel is a relatively small pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 09:17:45 PM
I think we've to move on from this one ......hopefully it will be a great game although I doubt it. I'll go and hand my £8 to those two wee men who always seem eager to do the gate (strange that). Ask them for a receipt.....the reaction is priceless. Last time I did it he said 'I don't have any receipts but I have these' ...........handed me a raffle ticket!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 08, 2016, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2016, 08:40:24 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 08, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
Hectic I give Ballycastle a good chance. The weather is to be poor on Sunday that'll suit a big strong team like Ballycastle, particularly on a tight pitch like Glenravel.

15 yes ago maybe.

When was the last time your played on Fr Maginn?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 08, 2016, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 09:17:45 PM
I think we've to move on from this one ......hopefully it will be a great game although I doubt it. I'll go and hand my £8 to those two wee men who always seem eager to do the gate (strange that). Ask them for a receipt.....the reaction is priceless. Last time I did it he said 'I don't have any receipts but I have these' ...........handed me a raffle ticket!!!!

This was a tongue in cheek thing years ago - it's gone long passed that now.
I attend championship games in Dublin & Waterford - there's always a stub or paper token returned.
It's incredible in this day and age Antrim are so flippant about gate money.
How it continues is beyond me.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2016, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 09:17:45 PM
I think we've to move on from this one ......hopefully it will be a great game although I doubt it. I'll go and hand my £8 to those two wee men who always seem eager to do the gate (strange that). Ask them for a receipt.....the reaction is priceless. Last time I did it he said 'I don't have any receipts but I have these' ...........handed me a raffle ticket!!!!

This was a tongue in cheek thing years ago - it's gone long passed that now.
I attend championship games in Dublin & Waterford - there's always a stub or paper token returned.
It's incredible in this day and age Antrim are so flippant about gate money.
How it continues is beyond me.

So are they keeping the money for themselves ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 08, 2016, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 08, 2016, 09:17:45 PM
I think we've to move on from this one ......hopefully it will be a great game although I doubt it. I'll go and hand my £8 to those two wee men who always seem eager to do the gate (strange that). Ask them for a receipt.....the reaction is priceless. Last time I did it he said 'I don't have any receipts but I have these' ...........handed me a raffle ticket!!!!

This was a tongue in cheek thing years ago - it's gone long passed that now.
I attend championship games in Dublin & Waterford - there's always a stub or paper token returned.
It's incredible in this day and age Antrim are so flippant about gate money.
How it continues is beyond me.

Agreed, it's ridiculous. No accountability.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2016, 06:20:57 AM
Ballycastle haven't hit the heights of last year because they haven't had to. I thought they were comfortable against Dunloy. Yes they got the bulk of their scores from frees but all that means is that they were in dangerous positions and the Dunloy defence decided to foul them. The key for the town is hitting quality ball to Clarke and Mc Caughan and they didn't do this enough against Dunloy. I think its crazy to play Neil Mc Auley at full back. He is by far their best distributor of quality ball. Sitting in at full back he doesn't get the opportunity to play in Ballycastle's 2 biggest threats. He needs to be in the half backs or the sweeper to make the link.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:13:25 AM
"Haven't had to"  ::) :o

Therefore they collectively decided to not convince anybody (including themselves) that they can mix it wuth the big boys?  :o
Yes this sound plausible  ::)

Ballycastle have no more than a boxers chance going by their league and championship performances to date
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 09, 2016, 08:13:53 AM
sorry but what heights did they hit last year?

i think the only chance Ballycastle have is if it pours down.

cant see anything but a Loughgiel win by 7-10 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....

Don't mention the weather either, don't mention Corrigan or Glenravel, don't mention the gate men not giving ticket stubs, don't mention the county board, don't mention refs either just in case you upset somebody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
So are they keeping the money for themselves ??

Anything wrong with querying why proper check's and balances are not applied Milltown? If I was doing the job of taking money at the gate, I'd demand that every sale was accounted for fear of people inferring some sort of nefarious goings on might be taking place.


To answer your question as best I can ...... Some individual(s) could well be making the most of the opportunity due to the lack of checks and balances ...... very tempting all that cash and no ticketing system for the wrong boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....

Don't mention the weather either, don't mention Corrigan or Glenravel, don't mention the gate men not giving ticket stubs, don't mention the county board, don't mention refs either just in case you upset somebody.

I do not like the tone of your post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
So are they keeping the money for themselves ??

Anything wrong with querying why proper check's and balances are not applied Milltown? If I was doing the job of taking money at the gate, I'd demand that every sale was accounted for fear of people inferring some sort of nefarious goings on might be taking place.


To answer your question as best I can ...... Some individual(s) could well be making the most of the opportunity due to the lack of checks and balances ...... very tempting all that cash and no ticketing system for the wrong boy.

I suppose that is where you have to trust your volunteers. That said if I were doing that roles I would prefer some sort of accountability to protect myself from the inevitable accusations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2016, 11:14:24 AM
If i was to pick a winner i would go for loughgiel. They have more scoring threats all over the pitch and have the know how and ability to win a championship.
we were poor, very poor in fact, against ballycastle yet there was only 3 between the teams at the end. most of their scores were from frees and if im honest i though that BC were poor as well, they were just that bit less poor than us.

Would have to go for Cdall in the other game as ive been impressed with them this season despite missing Neil and Aaron for the most of the entire season they dont look to have missed them at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 09, 2016, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
So are they keeping the money for themselves ??

Anything wrong with querying why proper check's and balances are not applied Milltown? If I was doing the job of taking money at the gate, I'd demand that every sale was accounted for fear of people inferring some sort of nefarious goings on might be taking place.


To answer your question as best I can ...... Some individual(s) could well be making the most of the opportunity due to the lack of checks and balances ...... very tempting all that cash and no ticketing system for the wrong boy.

I suppose that is where you have to trust your volunteers. That said if I were doing that roles I would prefer some sort of accountability to protect myself from the inevitable accusations.

A very simple solution would be for the county board to get a one size fits all ticket that can be given to each person in attendance. Just go to a decent printers and get loads of books made up. County crest on it and 'Antrim Club Championship' or something like that which covers both codes at all levels. Have numbers 1 - xxxxxxx. Give each person a ticket. People like to get something in return for their £8. Helps with counting attendances etc and accountability. Wouldn't cost the world.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 09, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
Member of the county board standing with a clicker even.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2016, 12:28:31 PM
Member of the county board standing with a clicker even.

As long as he has not had a skinful of drink the night before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....

Don't mention the weather either, don't mention Corrigan or Glenravel, don't mention the gate men not giving ticket stubs, don't mention the county board, don't mention refs either just in case you upset somebody.

I do not like the tone of your post.

??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....

Don't mention the weather either, don't mention Corrigan or Glenravel, don't mention the gate men not giving ticket stubs, don't mention the county board, don't mention refs either just in case you upset somebody.

I do not like the tone of your post.

??

Just something else to find fault with #itwasajoke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 09, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 08:15:09 AM
Weather's to be bad this weekend isn't it so....

Don't mention the weather either, don't mention Corrigan or Glenravel, don't mention the gate men not giving ticket stubs, don't mention the county board, don't mention refs either just in case you upset somebody.

I do not like the tone of your post.

??

Just something else to find fault with #itwasajoke

Don't mention Casement...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2016, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2016, 10:52:56 PM
So are they keeping the money for themselves ??

Anything wrong with querying why proper check's and balances are not applied Milltown? If I was doing the job of taking money at the gate, I'd demand that every sale was accounted for fear of people inferring some sort of nefarious goings on might be taking place.


To answer your question as best I can ...... Some individual(s) could well be making the most of the opportunity due to the lack of checks and balances ...... very tempting all that cash and no ticketing system for the wrong boy.

At your shop during the match I never got a receipt ...... I just asked the question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 03:47:54 PM
Fair enough strawman  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 09, 2016, 04:08:21 PM
I hear if Loughgiel don't win their semi, the final is to be played in Boyle's field in Glenbush. Any truth?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2016, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2016, 03:47:54 PM
Fair enough strawman  :-\

Look we can all sneer at this and make assumptions, if there are  no receipts that people will take advantage of this.. I mean its happened in clubs the length and breadth of the county, think there was a recent one up the Glens was there not, so yes keeping a check on things is important...

Only very recently I heard of another reason to have these checks and balances in place within the GAA, I'm not for having a go at the guys who year in year out stand and take the money at the gates, and neither should anyone else to be fair, unless its been proven that they have fiddled the books..

so the next league club game I go to Dunloy / cushendall or Corrigan will I ask for a receipt ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2016, 04:54:48 PM
Mr quite simply there should be receipts or tickets given out to club championship games. No one said they were fiddling the books. Counties are run as a business. Everything should be traceable so to not have this is shoddy in my view. Not by the individuals but as a whole. If you have them then no one can cast aspersions or perceive aspersions can be cast when they haven't.

When was the last time we knew the attendance of an antrim final? An accurate one.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 09, 2016, 05:24:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 09, 2016, 11:14:24 AM
If i was to pick a winner i would go for loughgiel. They have more scoring threats all over the pitch and have the know how and ability to win a championship.
we were poor, very poor in fact, against ballycastle yet there was only 3 between the teams at the end. most of their scores were from frees and if im honest i though that BC were poor as well, they were just that bit less poor than us.

Would have to go for Cdall in the other game as ive been impressed with them this season despite missing Neil and Aaron for the most of the entire season they dont look to have missed them at all.

We beat you by 5 points. 1-18 to 1-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2016, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2016, 04:54:48 PM
Mr quite simply there should be receipts or tickets given out to club championship games. No one said they were fiddling the books. Counties are run as a business. Everything should be traceable so to not have this is shoddy in my view. Not by the individuals but as a whole. If you have them then no one can cast aspersions or perceive aspersions can be cast when they haven't.

When was the last time we knew the attendance of an antrim final? An accurate one.

At no point did I say you shouldn't... It's the sneers and snide remarks which are unwarranted... Simple solution would be to volunteer your services and you can tell us?? I jest, that's the usual response to a question at a club AGM

As for the attendance is that paying attendance or added in the mods and winks brigade and juveniles??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2016, 05:49:18 PM
Well all of the above would be nice...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 09, 2016, 10:19:36 PM
There was always a suspicion that county board underplayed the attendance at matches as the hosting club was due 10% of the gate back in the day ( not sure if that is still the case ).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2016, 09:13:17 AM
In other news
I see St Endas vs Rossa is this Sunday in the Minor Championship Semi Final
St Johns must have lost their appeal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2016, 04:44:58 PM
15 minutes to throw in at Corrigan. About 200 people here. Rossa just took the field... Absolute silence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 10, 2016, 07:03:09 PM
Well that was shite!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2016, 07:06:04 PM
Sat 10 Sep 2016.    5 00 PM
Ruairí Óg.     1-24.    v.      1-17.     O`Donovan Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 07:06:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2016, 04:44:58 PM
15 minutes to throw in at Corrigan. About 200 people here. Rossa just took the field... Absolute silence.
No there wasn't absolute silence, sure I was talking to a man about the club centenary book.

Anyway, we were beaten by a better team but we could do without linesmen poking their noses in umpire business.

Was it wide ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:11:27 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...
It wasn't a free! Jesus, this gets worse....

Ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2016, 08:13:04 PM
Definitely wide...

Poor enough game. Result never really in doubt from the start. The rossa free taker must have hit a big total.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2016, 08:13:04 PM
Definitely wide...

Poor enough game. Result never really in doubt from the start. The rossa free taker must have hit a big total.

No championship buzz about it but that had nothing to do with the crowd to be fair... Rossa found it hard to score from play and Cushendall able to find space and time to knock them over easily though worrying enough didn't pull away..

Had Rossa continued to knock over the frees late in the game instead of going for goal they'd have been a lot closer.... But hey the Dall always had that bit more about them....

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Never pulled away but we're always at least 5 in front. Another disadvantage about the venue were the cars with their back windows put in!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Never pulled away but we're always at least 5 in front. Another disadvantage about the venue were the cars with their back windows put in!

Yep drove past that!! Proper cnuts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2016, 09:10:38 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Never pulled away but we're always at least 5 in front. Another disadvantage about the venue were the cars with their back windows put in!

At least that won't happen in Glenravel. Maybe have sheep sh!t on your shoes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2016, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...

So the umpire is a numpty? U do love a bit of the limelight in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 10, 2016, 09:31:08 PM
The Linesman was correct on both interventions today one for one against us, The game itself can only be be described as Boring!! No intensity at all and Really disappointed in Rossa, all week I was worried we could be caught out it we weren't at it, the challenge just didn't happen and we were quite poor. Id say if it wasn't for Armstrong today would Rossa have scored from play? He was good.
The Venue was well organised inside, the crowd was very poor and if it wasn't for the Cushendall and Loughgiel support  you wouldn't have needed stewards. It was Financial suicide from the County Board, but hey they know best how to f**k things up. As for the vandalism , disgraceful!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2016, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Never pulled away but we're always at least 5 in front. Another disadvantage about the venue were the cars with their back windows put in!

Yep drove past that!! Proper cnuts

Take 3 guess to know who was responsible for that   >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 10, 2016, 09:44:13 PM
Few cars broke into ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2016, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
Never pulled away but we're always at least 5 in front. Another disadvantage about the venue were the cars with their back windows put in!

Yep drove past that!! Proper cnuts

Take 3 guess to know who was responsible for that   >:(


GUESS 1 - Loughgiel??
GUESS 2- The County board
GUESS 3- A group of trampy hoods from the West who cant help themselves wreaking anything they can get their hands on and would rob their own granny for their next fix.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2016, 09:55:01 PM
K, responsible?  Hoods?

To Blame?  County board

but then if us yokels down the sticks say anything we're just picking on the poor oul city people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2016, 09:57:13 PM
We hit 1-24, could have had another goal or 2, threw on 3 subs in the last 15 mins, Rossa got their goal to put a gloss on the scoreboard in injury time and the general consensus is we didn't play well. I'll take that. Looking forward to Loughgiel v Ballycastle tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2016, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...

So the umpire is a numpty? U do love a bit of the limelight in fairness

Suppose say nothing get called a numpty, say something get called a numpty!! Ah well, sure that was the difference too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 10, 2016, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2016, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...

So the umpire is a numpty? U do love a bit of the limelight in fairness

You only noticing that now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 10, 2016, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 10, 2016, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 10, 2016, 08:04:02 PM
From my vantage point of probably the worst position in the ground to be able to tell, it looked straight over the bar.

The free taker didn't argue or the Rossa line !!! Wasn't even close to be fair...

So the umpire is a numpty? U do love a bit of the limelight in fairness

You only noticing that now?

Hi, kisses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2016, 10:50:12 PM
Who was the umpire and what happened
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 10, 2016, 10:50:12 PM
Who was the umpire and what happened

Nothing happen. Umpire called point when it was wide. Linesman seen (as did everyone else, including Rossa management and lad that hit the shot) that it was wide! But some dicks would like to believe that that was a story! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:09:14 PM
The well known lines man on this board over ruled the official umpires Deciding that a point was wide.  So his decision was final. That is ok but unfortunately the same lines man last week indicated that a point for Lamh Dearg was wide but a point had been given.  He indicated to the Rossa lads last week that he knew it was wide but he couldn't do anything about it???  Maybe the lines mans duties have changed within the last 7 days??  Consistency is what is expected but sadly lacking. Nothing knew. Cushendall deserved their win.  No complaints and the highlight for Rossa was the young fella Blondie coming on after his bad injury a while back.  Great to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 11:11:48 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:09:14 PM
The well known lines man on this board over ruled the official umpires Deciding that a point was wide.  So his decision was final. That is ok but unfortunately the same lines man last week indicated that a point for Lamh Dearg was wide but a point had been given.  He indicated to the Rossa lads last week that he knew it was wide but he couldn't do anything about it???  Maybe the lines mans duties have changed within the last 7 days??  Consistency is what is expected but sadly lacking. Nothing knew. Cushendall deserved their win.  No complaints and the highlight for Rossa was the young fella Blondie coming on after his bad injury a while back.  Great to see.

The ref has the ultimate decision ! But you'd know that??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:12:34 PM
miltown.  One thinks you protest an awful lot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:12:34 PM
miltown.  One thinks you protest an awful lot

Ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 10, 2016, 11:16:30 PM
Regardless of it being wide or not wide it wasn't going to make any difference to the result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
Not at all !!but has prob been the most talked about aspect of the game.  The ref didn't have a good game either IMO but sure that wouldnt have made any difference either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2016, 11:28:39 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on September 10, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
Not at all !!but has prob been the most talked about aspect of the game.  The ref didn't have a good game either IMO but sure that wouldnt have made any difference either

Who brought it up? A Rossa man! Get a life ffs the best team won! It happens .. As someone mentioned earlier I was pleased to see the lad that got hurt against the Jonnnies come on! Fair fcuks to him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 10, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
Nobody is allowed to talk about incidents unless MilltownRow says we can !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2016, 11:59:44 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 10, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
Nobody is allowed to talk about incidents unless MilltownRow says we can !

You weren't there wally
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 12:40:59 AM
Surely MR2 wasn't the linesman?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 12:51:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 12:40:59 AM
Surely MR2 wasn't the linesman?

I was and stop calling me surely!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:24:27 AM
While i think you were right mr why did the ref take your word when you were about 60 yards away over the two neutral umpires who were right beside it?? Is there a rule on that or something?

If one umpire ok but it was two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 08:43:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:24:27 AM
While i think you were right mr why did the ref take your word when you were about 60 yards away over the two neutral umpires who were right beside it?? Is there a rule on that or something?

If one umpire ok but it was two.

The referee has the final decision on that! He could have over ruled my decision and went with the umpires, I was directly behind the ball when it was struck, it never was on target to begin with nor looked like a score. When a ball is hit so high above the post it isn't the best position being underneath it, no one complained, not even the Rossa lads ...

It happened at Croke park before Hawkeye was used, not sure what linesman did it but it was overruled .... If a player strikes someone off the ball I can get the ref to deal with that also, as can umpires, but it was wide all day long as was the time the Cushendall lad played the line ball too close to his own player and fouled the ball resulting in a scored free for Rossa, nothing said on that though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Jim close seemed to...I agree with you 100% and had a similar view but just thought it odd that the two umpires gave a point and the ref took the word of the linesman 60 yards away when the umpires were right beside it. I think he must have thought it wide too and your opinion reaffirmed his. I think it was right just haven't seen it before with neutral umpires.i have seen it with some suspect ones though lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Jim close seemed to...I agree with you 100% and had a similar view but just thought it odd that the two umpires gave a point and the ref took the word of the linesman 60 yards away when the umpires were right beside it. I think he must have thought it wide too and your opinion reaffirmed his. I think it was right just haven't seen it before with neutral umpires.i have seen it with some suspect ones though lol.

Nope Jims issues were about me not calling fouls like when they happen during play! I can't stop play and call a foul, Jim and the rest knew it was wide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 09:13:52 AM
Ah. Except the two umpires!!

Hoping to see a tight game today. Doubt loughgiel will be beat but i guess it depends how much ball clarke and mccaughan can get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Jim close seemed to...I agree with you 100% and had a similar view but just thought it odd that the two umpires gave a point and the ref took the word of the linesman 60 yards away when the umpires were right beside it. I think he must have thought it wide too and your opinion reaffirmed his. I think it was right just haven't seen it before with neutral umpires.i have seen it with some suspect ones though lol.

Nope Jims issues were about me not calling fouls like when they happen during play! I can't stop play and call a foul, Jim and the rest knew it was wide

I have to laugh at managers doing that. Dick O'Kane was flat out in the ear of McCotter a few weeks ago in Loughiel about him not telling Mark O'Neill when frees happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 09:55:01 AM
Corrigan wasn't exactly value for money yesterday.
A decent crowd there but we'd never have known it.
Cushendall picked off the early scores under very little pressure it was like a training game and when they got their goal the game became a bit of a procession.
Rossa were kept at a safe distance without Cushendall ever really extending themselves.
Neil McManus landing a monster point was about the only thing that stirred the crowd and even Rossa's consolation goal barely caused a ripple. A really tame hour without anything close the what I would expect for a championship semi final.

No shortage of Loughguile and ballycastle folk at the game.
And no shortage of people giving ballycastle every chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 11, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Anyone giving Ballycastle any chance is deluded.

Everything is pointing to a Loughgiel win, many of us will hope Ballycastle can reach the heights of last year but I just can't see it.

Loughgiel have quietly went about their business and haven't shown their full hand to date but they will today.

Can't see anything else but a comprehensive Loughgiel victory.  10-15 points.

Can't wait for a Cushendall v Loughgiel final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 11, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Anyone giving Ballycastle any chance is deluded.

Everything is pointing to a Loughgiel win, many of us will hope Ballycastle can reach the heights of last year but I just can't see it.

Loughgiel have quietly went about their business and haven't shown their full hand to date but they will today.

Can't see anything else but a comprehensive Loughgiel victory.  10-15 points.

Can't wait for a Cushendall v Loughgiel final.

Yesterday was a one sided game and still didn't have that margin between the teams.
I doubt the loughgiel camp will be going into the game thinking that way.
Music to ballycastle ears.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 10:31:40 AM
Although Loughgiel go in as favorites of course Ballycastle have a chance and that was the feeling among everyone at the game yesterday and I don't think anyone was being politically correct about it either. The town have beat Dunloy twice in Championship hurling recently and they took us to the absolute pin of our collar last year too. They deserve to be considered genuine contenders. They'll have benefited from last year's campaign. A wee bit older, wiser and a bit more experience. Getting that taste of a Championship final, having one hand on the volunteer cup and letting it slip you would think will be a huge motivational factor for them. Although this year Loughgiel have again been the form team in the league, as expected they made short work of St. Galls and they have more options on the bench. The performances of Clarke and McCaughan to me is the deciding factor. If they hit form Ballycastle win, if not Loughgiel. Looking forward to a cracking game. 10-15 points is a ridiculous prediction!! I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong but... seriously 10-15?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 10:31:40 AM
Although Loughgiel go in as favorites of course Ballycastle have a chance and that was the feeling among everyone at the game yesterday and I don't think anyone was being politically correct about it either. The town have beat Dunloy twice in Championship hurling recently and they took us to the absolute pin of our collar last year too. They deserve to be considered genuine contenders. They'll have benefited from last year's campaign. A wee bit older, wiser and a bit more experience. Getting that taste of a Championship final, having one hand on the volunteer cup and letting it slip you would think will be a huge motivational factor for them. Although this year Loughgiel have again been the form team in the league, as expected they made short work of St. Galls and they have more options on the bench. The performances of Clarke and McCaughan to me is the deciding factor. If they hit form Ballycastle win, if not Loughgiel. Looking forward to a cracking game. 10-15 points is a ridiculous prediction!! I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong but... seriously 10-15?   

I think he's on the wind up.... Not too many semifinals end up with a score line that much !! Not that anyone would use this thread as a means to motivate their teams and if they did they'd be juvenile at best!!!

This game should be a lot closer .... Haven't seen Ballycastle at all this year (I think) but seen Loughgiel a few times. Playing well good movement great scoring threat from about 6 players tigerish on tackles and good game plan, simple cross field early low balls, player out running onto before defender, picks out the runner coming through easy score!! Most of the forwards can win their own ball too good mix of young and older players to and a decent bench!! Everything you want as a manager!!

As for the Town, I'm sure they'll be fired up for this and should Loughgiel give away too many fouls they won't be able to pull away so leaving it in the melting pot till the end...

May the best team win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2016, 11:17:35 AM
Still think Loughgiel will be too strong for Ballycastle. The Town will need a massive improvement compared to the Dunloy game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 11, 2016, 01:30:36 PM
Loughgiel beat Ballycastle twice in a week recently by 12 & then 7 points without being at full strength.

I know league is not championship but considering these games have been in the run up, not much has changed in 2 weeks to suggest Ballycastle can turn things around.

The Ballycastle v Dunloy championship was as poor a championship game I have seen in a long time.

If Loughgiel don't win by at least 10 I will be very surprised.

After today Loughgiel will be firm favourites for the title.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 01:47:10 PM
 ;D Cushendall going for 3 in a row. They're favourites for the championship  hands down. And deservedly so. Tight game today.  Would be happy with a 1 point win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 01:47:10 PM
;D Cushendall going for 3 in a row. They're favourites for the championship  hands down. And deservedly so. Tight game today.  Would be happy with a 1 point win.

Having a mind blank.
Last championship not win by the Cushendall or loughgiel?
The 90s were an even 5 way split beaten dunloy and Cushendall - we're in another duopoly unless ballycastle win today?
Fair enough point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
Dunloy won it in 2009.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
Dunloy won it in 2009.
Yep. After a scare in loughgiel against Glenariffe. That was a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
I'm going for LG I think johnny has made progress from last year
SIE keep us updated as I can't get over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
I'm going for LG I think johnny has made progress from last year
SIE keep us updated as I can't get over
I'll try my best lad. Sure you know yourself this is the last place I'll be looking at during the game. The last time I tried updating a game i got accused of all sorts. Remember?   ;)

Good luck to both teams today. May the best team win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 11, 2016, 04:28:31 PM
No twitter updates or that today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Ht Shamrocks 0-9 McQuillans 0-6. Big wind for the town 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2016, 04:35:04 PM
9-6 Shamrocks ht .......wind has destroyed the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2016, 04:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
Ht Shamrocks 0-9 McQuillans 0-6. Big wind for the town 2nd half.

Wind will win no game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2016, 05:05:46 PM
Any more score folks? There's nothing on Twitter from either club or the Antrim account
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
15-11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
17-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 11, 2016, 05:21:25 PM
Ft. 19-11
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2016, 05:38:38 PM
Horrible game of hurling.......nightmare for the players in those conditions. Roll on the final .....I'd say Ballycastle is nailed on to get it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 05:45:22 PM
Anyone who thought ballycastle were in with a shout were delusional, big final not sure where it will go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 05:49:27 PM
Wind totally ruined the game for both sides, told you the game should of went to a place with a roof and indoor pitch.

Loughiel in complete control, game passed the Ballycastle players by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2016, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 08, 2016, 08:26:43 PM
Think Cushendall will beat Rossa by 6-8 points. C'Dall should be too good but I expect a battle.

L'Giel to beat Ballycastle by the same amount. Ballycastle were very relient on frees the last day & haven't reached last years form. It's very quiet over in Loughgiel at the minute (especially the posters in here). That's a good sign..they're my favourites for the C'Ship.
;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 06:16:27 PM
Disappointed in Ballycastle, when plan A didn't work they had no plan B. The amount of ball that landed in and around the square in the second half that the town failed to take advantage of was criminal. A horrible day to try and play hurling. Impressed with Mel Connolly on the frees, he had a poor start missing the first 2 but he composed himself and hit some super frees, particularly in the second half into that breeze. I think you have both teams into a final without either truly showing their full hand but having come through the tougher side of the draw and having been the most consistent team in the league Loughgiel will start as favorites.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Thought Damon McMullan was man of the match ......think the bookies will probably disagree with you on who favourites are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 06:38:17 PM
The way the county board choose venues the final will probably be on the top of orra mountain... At night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 06:38:17 PM
The way the county board choose venues the final will probably be on the top of orra mountain... At night.

Can you complain about Glenravel today? Where did you park at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 06:38:17 PM
The way the county board choose venues the final will probably be on the top of orra mountain... At night.

Can you complain about Glenravel today? Where did you park at?

I parked in the field. 45 mins to get out so it wasn't too bad. Pedestrians and cars coming and going from the same 2 metre wide entrance/exit ......recipe for disaster. Thankfully it seems to have passed without accident. I got in early against the fence and viewing was spot on. Wouldn't want to be behind though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
Personally I can't complain about Glenravel but thats because I arrived an hour before throw in, got a good parking spot in the field close to the exit and got in along the fence to watch the match. Those who had to sit in a field for 45 minutes to an hour trying to get home or had to try and see the match from the 2nd or 3rd row have every right to complain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 07:12:02 PM
Final venue?
Assume ballycastle.
Outside chance Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
It'll hardly be in Cushendall. Ballycastle would be just fine. Plenty of parking and concrete steps on both sides so folks can see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 11, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
More chance of Casement getting the final than Cushendall for what I thought would be obvious reasons  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
Saul McCaughan seemed in a bad way when he was coming out of the dressing rooms. Must of taken a serious knock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2016, 07:35:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
Saul McCaughan seemed in a bad way when he was coming out of the dressing rooms. Must of taken a serious knock

He's a great player and a great lad hope he's OK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 07:49:07 PM
Wind did not help the game, low return for Ballycastle from the number of long balls into full forward line in the second half though had the shot that smacked the bar went in the net it could have been game on with 15 to go. Despite that Loughgiel looked comfortable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 07:49:07 PM
Wind did not help the game, low return for Ballycastle from the number of long balls into full forward line in the second half though had the shot that smacked the bar went in the net it could have been game on with 15 to go. Despite that Loughgiel looked comfortable.

You get in and out of Glenravel ok??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 11, 2016, 07:49:07 PM
Wind did not help the game, low return for Ballycastle from the number of long balls into full forward line in the second half though had the shot that smacked the bar went in the net it could have been game on with 15 to go. Despite that Loughgiel looked comfortable.

You get in and out of Glenravel ok??

Yeah not too bad, got parked in the field about half 3 so was there in good time. Was about 6 by the time I got out of the field but it was about 20 to when I got to the car so not so bad either and once on the road there was a pretty clear run. Could have done with a wider entrance to the field or a second entrance for pedestrians as it was one or the other but that aside done the job though I'd say if you were cutting it finer for time it could have been heavy enough given the volume of traffic on the road when I was walking to the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
Ballycastle, dunloy or, dare i say it, corrigan for the final. I think maybe ballycastle but that's a guess.

Loughgiel completely on top today and on that showing should probably be favourites for the final. Tiernan coyles to me man of match. Ballycastle looked for a little bit like they might score a goal but then hardly did anything more. The thing that struck me was the difference in handling. Ballycastle all over couldn't catch a ball and loughgiel were fielding a lot from 1-15.

Should be a good final. Best two teams no doubt.

Mcmanus should be fitter for final which will help cushendall. Loughgiel very strong everywhere though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 11, 2016, 07:12:02 PM
Final venue?
Assume ballycastle.
Outside chance Cushendall?

Sorry! :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
Ballycastle, dunloy or, dare i say it, corrigan for the final. I think maybe ballycastle but that's a guess.

Loughgiel completely on top today and on that showing should probably be favourites for the final. Tiernan coyles to me man of match. Ballycastle looked for a little bit like they might score a goal but then hardly did anything more. The thing that struck me was the difference in handling. Ballycastle all over couldn't catch a ball and loughgiel were fielding a lot from 1-15.

Should be a good final. Best two teams no doubt.

Mcmanus should be fitter for final which will help cushendall. Loughgiel very strong everywhere though.

Agree about Coyle, looked composed when he had the ball. Watson never really got into the game but still managed to hit a couple of scores. I thought L'Ghiel overplayed the ball at times especially upfront.

Ballycastle will be kicking themselves, they had some chances and the one that hit the bar will hunt them for a few days no doubt.

Skinny had a good enough game also I thought, best ref in the county bar none.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Yeah i meant to say that. Thought the ref was very good. I've never seen a ref play advantage so much. That's nit a slight - he does it well and it really helps the game flow.

Realistically ballycastle were second best in most areas of pitch. Had that one that hit the crossbar went in might have made more of a game.

Much better game than last night though even with the wind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2016, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2016, 08:39:00 PM
Yeah i meant to say that. Thought the ref was very good. I've never seen a ref play advantage so much. That's nit a slight - he does it well and it really helps the game flow.

Realistically ballycastle were second best in most areas of pitch. Had that one that hit the crossbar went in might have made more of a game.

Much better game than last night though even with the wind.

He almost caught it to well. Clarke is a joy to watch but was well marshalled today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: micko12368 on September 11, 2016, 11:01:17 PM
No issue with Glenravel, thought everyone involved with club did a great job. Only had to wait about 5 mins to get out of the field  and thats with parking near the top of the field. Not bad for a football club!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
Was it not given for a loughgiel defender picking the ball off the ground? It was where a penalty would be given but foul on the ball so 21 yard free?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
Was it not given for a loughgiel defender picking the ball off the ground? It was where a penalty would be given but foul on the ball so 21 yard free?
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Was is not given for DD laying on the ball?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

It should have been taken on the 21 yard line opposite where it crossed the end line and not the middle of the 21 yd line.  (As per the official guide rules).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 08:30:49 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

It should have been taken on the 21 yard line opposite where it crossed the end line and not the middle of the 21 yd line.  (As per the official guide rules).

Unless someone was giving off to the ref and he moved it to a more advantageous position on the 21. As per rule book
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2016, 08:42:18 AM
Final should be in ballycastle this year. def wont be us as the pitch is currently being dug up and drained at the top end of the field. its closed till next may.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 12, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
Was it not given for a loughgiel defender picking the ball off the ground? It was where a penalty would be given but foul on the ball so 21 yard free?

Was is not given for DD laying on the ball?

Yeah actually that was it. I don't think there was an advantage at the point that was given.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

Explains it then, i didn't see the late tackle on the striker of the ball, just on saul.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 12, 2016, 09:23:56 AM
The final is in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
With Dunloy out of action, only logical choice really.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 12, 2016, 09:42:14 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

Explains it then, i didn't see the late tackle on the striker of the ball, just on saul.

i was the same, i didnt see the late foul, only the original on that advantage was given.

on that then, i take it if advantage is given and there is another foul within the advantage time does that foul then stand  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 12, 2016, 09:42:14 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

Explains it then, i didn't see the late tackle on the striker of the ball, just on saul.

i was the same, i didnt see the late foul, only the original on that advantage was given.

on that then, i take it if advantage is given and there is another foul within the advantage time does that foul then stand  ???

Good question.

I still think the ref made a mistake here, ball was wide by about 4/5 meters but ballycastle got their free from the centre (this incident isn't that same one as DD laying on the ball).
Was definitely no dissent from Loughgiel at that time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2016, 09:57:22 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 12, 2016, 09:42:14 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

Explains it then, i didn't see the late tackle on the striker of the ball, just on saul.

i was the same, i didnt see the late foul, only the original on that advantage was given.

on that then, i take it if advantage is given and there is another foul within the advantage time does that foul then stand  ???

Good question.

I still think the ref made a mistake here, ball was wide by about 4/5 meters but ballycastle got their free from the centre (this incident isn't that same one as DD laying on the ball).
Was definitely no dissent from Loughgiel at that time.

Well I think that is as good a clue as any then,
AFAIK if there is a second foul committed while advantage is being played that is the foul and place that will take precedence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
Good win for us although not a great game. Tiernan Coyle, Maol Connolly, Donal McKinley and Damon McMullan all put in very good performances. Great to see some of the younger lads driving the team forward now. Johnny Campbell has done a brilliant job in refreshing the team this year and giving the younger lads their chance.

The final will be a much tougher proposition but the team are where they want to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Also what happens if you put it wide during the advantage?? What is the rule on that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 12, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Also what happens if you put it wide during the advantage?? What is the rule on that?

Bug bear of mine this one, especially if it is a free shot, if it is inside the time limit it has been pulled back from what I have seen.
As long as it doesnt get a ridiculous as the rugby advantage rule and is applied consistently then I think it is fair enough.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 10:49:49 AM
Was Watson's goal effort not within the time limit? It was the one that confused me.

I think "skinny" does a great job with the advantage rule. There are a few areas I think people don't understand yet as it's new so you sometimes wonder watching it but i do think he does a good job with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Also what happens if you put it wide during the advantage?? What is the rule on that?

Bug bear of mine this one, especially if it is a free shot, if it is inside the time limit it has been pulled back from what I have seen.
As long as it doesnt get a ridiculous as the rugby advantage rule and is applied consistently then I think it is fair enough.

if another foul is committed after the first one then its the second one or the best advantageous one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2016, 11:16:01 AM
Every ref in the county should be sent a DVD of that game yesterday and be told that is the level they should get to. Talking to players, advantage rule being played and keeping up with play also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2016, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 12, 2016, 09:42:14 AM
Quote from: Link on September 12, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Bonamargy on September 11, 2016, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 11:02:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2016, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: Link on September 11, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Can anyone explain how ballycastle got the free on the 21 near the end? To me it seemed like saul got fouled after he flicked the ball on, whoever hit it wide from the wing didn't look to have been fouled. 

A bit strange that they changed free taker twice for it too.

Loughgiel's 11 was very efficient at the placed balls bar the miss early in 1st half.

I would imagine that is the advantage rule at work  ???

Surely if no advantage is gained, it goes back to where the foul was commited.

It was given for a late tackle after the ball was struck. For a late tackle, the free is awarded where the ball lands.

Explains it then, i didn't see the late tackle on the striker of the ball, just on saul.

i was the same, i didnt see the late foul, only the original on that advantage was given.

on that then, i take it if advantage is given and there is another foul within the advantage time does that foul then stand  ???

Pretty sure if there is a foul in advantage time that it is brought back to the original foul.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2016, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 12, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 12, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Also what happens if you put it wide during the advantage?? What is the rule on that?

Bug bear of mine this one, especially if it is a free shot, if it is inside the time limit it has been pulled back from what I have seen.
As long as it doesnt get a ridiculous as the rugby advantage rule and is applied consistently then I think it is fair enough.

if another foul is committed after the first one then its the second one or the best advantageous one

Right ignore my last post as I would be inclined to believe this man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 12:48:47 PM
I thought Skinny had a good game but the decision to allow Ballycastle 3 goes at that 21 yard free was a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2016, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 12:48:47 PM
I thought Skinny had a good game but the decision to allow Ballycastle 3 goes at that 21 yard free was a bit ridiculous.

How? DD wouldn't stay on his line. Rules are there to be obeyed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
Every keeper takes a step once the striker addresses the ball. I have never seen it so pedantically enforced before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 12, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
The thing is NAG, Skinny applied the rule properly yesterday the rest don't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 12, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Yeah I thought the referee had a good game - in fairness both teams were there to hurl which made his job a bit easier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2016, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
Every keeper takes a step once the striker addresses the ball. I have never seen it so pedantically enforced before.

It was a crucial time in the match so he was correct to do what he did. I know what your saying though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing

Extremely over the top in my opinion regarding that particular series of events.

The rules also state all players must not move closer or cross the 20m line until the ball is struck, Ballycastle attackers, on each of these instances,  crossed the line before the ball was struck.  Ref was only interested in the keeper breaking the rule, when others had also offended.

Advantage was played when LW was fouled at the other end and it wasn't taken back for the free.  Footage showed it was barely two seconds, the rule is 5 seconds.

Just a couple of inconsistencies that should be pointed out.

CC has youth on his side and is making good headway but is not the finished product yet, Mr Elliott and Mr Hasson are ahead in my book and would be my shortlist for the final.

Interesting though how decisions like these give you a reason to look up the rules, some would surprise you and it's even more surprising how quite a few of them aren't being applied correctly.

MR2 is it true that only a small minority of you and you fellow whistlers passed the referee rules test?

Surely passing this should be a prerequisite before being allowed to officiate any game, or is it still the case as a ref once told me "no one fails these tests".



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing

Extremely over the top in my opinion regarding that particular series of events.

The rules also state all players must not move closer or cross the 20m line until the ball is struck, Ballycastle attackers, on each of these instances,  crossed the line before the ball was struck.  Ref was only interested in the keeper breaking the rule, when others had also offended.

Advantage was played when LW was fouled at the other end and it wasn't taken back for the free.  Footage showed it was barely two seconds, the rule is 5 seconds.

Just a couple of inconsistencies that should be pointed out.

CC has youth on his side and is making good headway but is not the finished product yet, Mr Elliott and Mr Hasson are ahead in my book and would be my shortlist for the final.

Interesting though how decisions like these give you a reason to look up the rules, some would surprise you and it's even more surprising how quite a few of them aren't being applied correctly.

MR2 is it true that only a small minority of you and you fellow whistlers passed the referee rules test?

Surely passing this should be a prerequisite before being allowed to officiate any game, or is it still the case as a ref once told me "no one fails these tests".

I believe you can't do the championship games if you don't pass the rules test and fitness test.

It's funny how everyone can read the rules and state them (cut and paste) but when their own players commit a foul they are the quietest on the sidelines!! You couldn't make it up lol!!

The top refs in the county should get the final! Pick from CC Elliot Hasson and O'Neill....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 13, 2016, 12:00:28 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
Good win for us although not a great game. Tiernan Coyle, Maol Connolly, Donal McKinley and Damon McMullan all put in very good performances. Great to see some of the younger lads driving the team forward now. Johnny Campbell has done a brilliant job in refreshing the team this year and giving the younger lads their chance.

The final will be a much tougher proposition but the team are where they want to be.

The other Mr Campbell hasn't done so bad in giving the youth a chance either!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2016, 09:13:25 AM
Johnny has given them the chance because he has no choice in it. If your playing a team thats mostly over 30 your getting into problems down the line with who to replace them. not everyone is so patient and will sit on the bench for years on their chance.

skinny imo is one of the best refs in the county. he calls the game fair and right any time ive seen him. hes talks to the players all the time, expains to them what they have done wrong in a foul and lets the game go.

E Hasson is up there as well for me, hes really good any time ive seen him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2016, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 13, 2016, 09:13:25 AM
Johnny has given them the chance because he has no choice in it. If your playing a team thats mostly over 30 your getting into problems down the line with who to replace them. not everyone is so patient and will sit on the bench for years on their chance.

skinny imo is one of the best refs in the county. he calls the game fair and right any time ive seen him. hes talks to the players all the time, expains to them what they have done wrong in a foul and lets the game go.

E Hasson is up there as well for me, hes really good any time ive seen him

Hasson is likely the favourite for it, Could Skinny get 2 finals in a row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 13, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2016, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 13, 2016, 09:13:25 AM
Johnny has given them the chance because he has no choice in it. If your playing a team thats mostly over 30 your getting into problems down the line with who to replace them. not everyone is so patient and will sit on the bench for years on their chance.

skinny imo is one of the best refs in the county. he calls the game fair and right any time ive seen him. hes talks to the players all the time, expains to them what they have done wrong in a foul and lets the game go.

E Hasson is up there as well for me, hes really good any time ive seen him

Hasson is likely the favourite for it, Could Skinny get 2 finals in a row?

What is "Skinny's" real name?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 13, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
Colm Cunning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on September 13, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
North Antrim must be the best part of the country for nicknames .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2016, 11:36:51 AM
Quote from: ashman on September 13, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
North Antrim must be the best part of the country for nicknames .

Nelson's 1989 team was renowned for the nicknames.

The City ones are generally not very polite or subtle  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 13, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 13, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
Colm Cunning

Think Dunloy in particular - Jesus most guys from there seemed to have a nickname that not too much thought went into.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2016, 12:17:29 PM
lol i dont know, some of them are odd enough. Shorty for starters, ive no idea how he got that name at all. some come from their dads nickname and it followed like young woody for example.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 13, 2016, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing

Extremely over the top in my opinion regarding that particular series of events.

The rules also state all players must not move closer or cross the 20m line until the ball is struck, Ballycastle attackers, on each of these instances,  crossed the line before the ball was struck.  Ref was only interested in the keeper breaking the rule, when others had also offended.

Advantage was played when LW was fouled at the other end and it wasn't taken back for the free.  Footage showed it was barely two seconds, the rule is 5 seconds.

Just a couple of inconsistencies that should be pointed out.

CC has youth on his side and is making good headway but is not the finished product yet, Mr Elliott and Mr Hasson are ahead in my book and would be my shortlist for the final.

Interesting though how decisions like these give you a reason to look up the rules, some would surprise you and it's even more surprising how quite a few of them aren't being applied correctly.

MR2 is it true that only a small minority of you and you fellow whistlers passed the referee rules test?

Surely passing this should be a prerequisite before being allowed to officiate any game, or is it still the case as a ref once told me "no one fails these tests".

I believe you can't do the championship games if you don't pass the rules test and fitness test.

It's funny how everyone can read the rules and state them (cut and paste) but when their own players commit a foul they are the quietest on the sidelines!! You couldn't make it up lol!!

The top refs in the county should get the final! Pick from CC Elliot Hasson and O'Neill....

I tend to disagree with O. Elliot as one of the best. He always manages to make the game abut himself and likes to be the centre of attention, complete opposite of what a good ref is IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2016, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 13, 2016, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing

Extremely over the top in my opinion regarding that particular series of events.

The rules also state all players must not move closer or cross the 20m line until the ball is struck, Ballycastle attackers, on each of these instances,  crossed the line before the ball was struck.  Ref was only interested in the keeper breaking the rule, when others had also offended.

Advantage was played when LW was fouled at the other end and it wasn't taken back for the free.  Footage showed it was barely two seconds, the rule is 5 seconds.

Just a couple of inconsistencies that should be pointed out.

CC has youth on his side and is making good headway but is not the finished product yet, Mr Elliott and Mr Hasson are ahead in my book and would be my shortlist for the final.

Interesting though how decisions like these give you a reason to look up the rules, some would surprise you and it's even more surprising how quite a few of them aren't being applied correctly.

MR2 is it true that only a small minority of you and you fellow whistlers passed the referee rules test?

Surely passing this should be a prerequisite before being allowed to officiate any game, or is it still the case as a ref once told me "no one fails these tests".

I believe you can't do the championship games if you don't pass the rules test and fitness test.

It's funny how everyone can read the rules and state them (cut and paste) but when their own players commit a foul they are the quietest on the sidelines!! You couldn't make it up lol!!

The top refs in the county should get the final! Pick from CC Elliot Hasson and O'Neill....

I tend to disagree with O. Elliot as one of the best. He always manages to make the game abut himself and likes to be the centre of attention, complete opposite of what a good ref is IMO.

Very true on Elliot.
Although I have to say I fell a general improvement in reffing.
Certainly Cunning O'Neill and Hasson - but also McKnight from St Johns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 13, 2016, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 13, 2016, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 13, 2016, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2016, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 12, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
The referee has to stand his ground and show the player(s) he's in charge. It's the player who has to yield. Anything else is poor refereeing

Extremely over the top in my opinion regarding that particular series of events.

The rules also state all players must not move closer or cross the 20m line until the ball is struck, Ballycastle attackers, on each of these instances,  crossed the line before the ball was struck.  Ref was only interested in the keeper breaking the rule, when others had also offended.

Advantage was played when LW was fouled at the other end and it wasn't taken back for the free.  Footage showed it was barely two seconds, the rule is 5 seconds.

Just a couple of inconsistencies that should be pointed out.

CC has youth on his side and is making good headway but is not the finished product yet, Mr Elliott and Mr Hasson are ahead in my book and would be my shortlist for the final.

Interesting though how decisions like these give you a reason to look up the rules, some would surprise you and it's even more surprising how quite a few of them aren't being applied correctly.

MR2 is it true that only a small minority of you and you fellow whistlers passed the referee rules test?

Surely passing this should be a prerequisite before being allowed to officiate any game, or is it still the case as a ref once told me "no one fails these tests".

I believe you can't do the championship games if you don't pass the rules test and fitness test.

It's funny how everyone can read the rules and state them (cut and paste) but when their own players commit a foul they are the quietest on the sidelines!! You couldn't make it up lol!!

The top refs in the county should get the final! Pick from CC Elliot Hasson and O'Neill....

I tend to disagree with O. Elliot as one of the best. He always manages to make the game abut himself and likes to be the centre of attention, complete opposite of what a good ref is IMO.

Very true on Elliot.
Although I have to say I fell a general improvement in reffing.
Certainly Cunning O'Neill and Hasson - but also McKnight from St Johns.

McKnight was the name I was looking for, really impressed by him when he was reffing a game I was playing in.

Cunning, O'Neill and Hasson are the pick of the bunch but agree ref standards increasing all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 13, 2016, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser

Will do well for me - with Dunloy out and competing teams not eligible probably the obvious choice.  Generally speaking while some were championing Cushendall for last weekends game where the pitch in Cushendall is situated it can be a busy place on a Sunday - Ballycastle while equally busy on a Sunday has the pitch located well away from the throng so as a seaside town is a preferable option for me for going to a game (that said I suppose the Cushendall traffic will probably have to come through the town but hopefully any backing up will not be right to the centre).  But regardless while we do not have a purpose built location for these games we just have to make allowances accordingly - especially getting to the venue on good time and not depending on sneaking in at the last minute when the throng has passed as I found out to my cost last year in Dunloy when road works made the thing more of a challenge than it should have been.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2016, 02:11:48 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 13, 2016, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser

Will do well for me - with Dunloy out and competing teams not eligible probably the obvious choice.  Generally speaking while some were championing Cushendall for last weekends game where the pitch in Cushendall is situated it can be a busy place on a Sunday - Ballycastle while equally busy on a Sunday has the pitch located well away from the throng so as a seaside town is a preferable option for me for going to a game (that said I suppose the Cushendall traffic will probably have to come through the town but hopefully any backing up will not be right to the centre).  But regardless while we do not have a purpose built location for these games we just have to make allowances accordingly - especially getting to the venue on good time and not depending on sneaking in at the last minute when the throng has passed as I found out to my cost last year in Dunloy when road works made the thing more of a challenge than it should have been.

Are you working for the Tourism board?  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
Seen a few pics of the Dunsilly site.... looking great, finishing touches... I'd imagine it will be hosting the finals from next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
Seen a few pics of the Dunsilly site.... looking great, finishing touches... I'd imagine it will be hosting the finals from next year?

Saw them myself MR2, looks well.

You'd hope that it'd host them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser
Where'd you here that?

County website still has a vague date between the 16th - 18th Sept

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship (http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 13, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser
Where'd you here that?

County website still has a vague date between the 16th - 18th Sept

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship (http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship)

It's on the county twitter.

Anyone up for calling the Junior and Intermediate finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 02:56:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2016, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
Seen a few pics of the Dunsilly site.... looking great, finishing touches... I'd imagine it will be hosting the finals from next year?

Saw them myself MR2, looks well.

You'd hope that it'd host them.

In terms of a neutral area and access from the motorway it is brilliant, get it up and running with a view to getting a stand of sorts and other things to make it better again! I know its been a long  process but its nearly ready now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 13, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser
Where'd you here that?

County website still has a vague date between the 16th - 18th Sept

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship (http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship)

It's on the county twitter.

Anyone up for calling the Junior and Intermediate finals?

Yeah, I hope that St Endas make the break through to Senior.. Cloughmills have been there recently and did themselves proud, but I've a soft spot for the lads in Hightown... as for the Junior seen both teams this year and hard enough to call... going for Lamhs based on the potential they have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 03:09:12 PM
Any links to these Dunsilly pics gents?

Is the place set up for hosting big crowds?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 13, 2016, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on September 13, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2016, 12:48:41 PM
So Ballycastle for senior final with minor final as curtain raiser
Where'd you here that?

County website still has a vague date between the 16th - 18th Sept

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship (http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/hurling/minor-a-hurling-championship)

It's on the county twitter.

Anyone up for calling the Junior and Intermediate finals?

Wins for Lamh Dearg & Cloughmillis I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2016, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 03:09:12 PM
Any links to these Dunsilly pics gents?

Is the place set up for hosting big crowds?

Antrim FB page.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 13, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
£12 in to double header
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2016, 05:04:08 PM
looks really good. should be matches there next year now by the looks of it.

Minor final set for before the senior final. will be a dent to the footballers who play in the intermediate final on the saturday. will take at least 3 of them out of contention to play some part in it which is a pity for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 13, 2016, 05:04:08 PM
looks really good. should be matches there next year now by the looks of it.

Minor final set for before the senior final. will be a dent to the footballers who play in the intermediate final on the saturday. will take at least 3 of them out of contention to play some part in it which is a pity for them.

Minor only comes round a couple of years once you're past that age you'll never get a chance again... Intermediate senior are available for a lot longer!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 13, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Looking at the pics there of Dunsilly it doesn't show an awful lot of parking, anyone wise to the area know if it'd be fit for the county final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2016, 08:46:35 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 13, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
Looking at the pics there of Dunsilly it doesn't show an awful lot of parking, anyone wise to the area know if it'd be fit for the county final?

At the moment no it certainly wouldn't be and I don't know if there are plans for a stand or terracing of some description. Without it a final would be out of the question.

Parking also is an issue there wouldn't be near enough currently and the alternatives would be junction one or the hotel carpark unless they can rent a field for the day. However wouldn't hold out much hope for much accommodation in the locality.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2016, 08:54:44 PM
Was it intended to be any more than a training facility?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 13, 2016, 09:10:35 PM
I don't think it was intended to hold club championship matches. Sure was there not problems with access as well.
I can't see a stand ever been built..especially with Casement in the pipeline (2022 maybe :o)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
You can see there was no real thought given to the potential chance of Dunsilly becoming our Owenbeg.

Looks to be a training facility only
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
You can see there was no real thought given to the potential chance of Dunsilly becoming our Owenbeg.

Looks to be a training facility only

Let's get it up and running and see what happens..... There is a lot of space around that area surely which could be bought and used ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2016, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
You can see there was no real thought given to the potential chance of Dunsilly becoming our Owenbeg.

Looks to be a training facility only

Let's get it up and running and see what happens..... There is a lot of space around that area surely which could be bought and used ??

Going by what the council put them through with phase one I doubt there would be much appetite to go there again.

Yes it was always intended to be solely a training facility so probably no consideration was given to club games or County games for that matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
Be handier going to Glenravel as there  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 13, 2016, 05:04:08 PM
looks really good. should be matches there next year now by the looks of it.

Minor final set for before the senior final. will be a dent to the footballers who play in the intermediate final on the saturday. will take at least 3 of them out of contention to play some part in it which is a pity for them.

Minor only comes round a couple of years once you're past that age you'll never get a chance again... Intermediate senior are available for a lot longer!!

aw i know lad, we dont get to many football finals around our parts though and have only won 2 in near 40 years. That being said they have to play their own grade first so the hurling will take prime spot that weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 14, 2016, 08:54:20 AM
Dunsilly looks good but its very much a small scale facility. It doesn't look like in could accommodate a county final.  There doesn't appear to be any spectating facilities or car-parking and if the only access to the site is through that narrow tunnel any sort of a crowd at all will be a nightmare / safety issue (I'm not familiar with the site so this may not be the case).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
Main safety issue would be crowds crossing roads ... it doesn't look set up for much more than training games which is very disappointing  ... it could have and should have been a real hub for the county, but as the saying kinda goes ..........what the power brokers don't want, they get
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 14, 2016, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
Main safety issue would be crowds crossing roads ... it doesn't look set up for much more than training games which is very disappointing  ... it could have and should have been a real hub for the county, but as the saying kinda goes ..........what the power brokers don't want, they get

It looks like changing rooms are on one side of the tunnel and pitches on the other. That would present a problem for matches with players having no separate route to the field from supporters.

I had hoped it could be used for hosting games but doesn't seem to be judging by these pics. Still a very useful facility to have all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: Usain on September 14, 2016, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 09:04:09 AM
Main safety issue would be crowds crossing roads ... it doesn't look set up for much more than training games which is very disappointing  ... it could have and should have been a real hub for the county, but as the saying kinda goes ..........what the power brokers don't want, they get

It looks like changing rooms are on one side of the tunnel and pitches on the other. That would present a problem for matches with players having no separate route to the field from supporters.

I had hoped it could be used for hosting games but doesn't seem to be judging by these pics. Still a very useful facility to have all the same.

This is exactly the issue which caused the delay to the project going ahead. It has also restricted the usability of the site in general. If it is to be developed in any way other than a training facility other options for entrance and exiting will need to be explored (I'd imagine this has already been done though)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 14, 2016, 10:34:09 AM
Jez lads be glad you'll have something like that for all its faults.

In Down the county hurlers and footballers are still begging, stealing and borrowing from the clubs, schools and so forth for facilities with big money being lost on a non event in Bryansford village that isn't going to happen.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Its a real shame that the foresight was not there to have something that could comfortably cater for 5000 ish - that would handle most finals and National League games as well.  I suppose maybe in their defence they were working on the basis of Casement being ready but at the same time Casement will be too big for County finals, semi finals etc and Antrim is perfectly located to be reasonably accessible for most teams in the county.  'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing' is generally what you hear when you raise anything at the higher levels regarding these type of projects.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:40:16 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 14, 2016, 10:34:09 AM
Jez lads be glad you'll have something like that for all its faults.

In Down the county hurlers and footballers are still begging, stealing and borrowing from the clubs, schools and so forth for facilities with big money being lost on a non event in Bryansford village that isn't going to happen.

An element of truth there alright but at the same time if you are going to do a job you might as well do it right at the same time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2016, 11:25:40 AM
It has been planned for years though and when planning there would probably have been an assumption that either there would be, or there would soon be, a casement park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2016, 11:26:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 14, 2016, 10:34:09 AM
Jez lads be glad you'll have something like that for all its faults.

In Down the county hurlers and footballers are still begging, stealing and borrowing from the clubs, schools and so forth for facilities with big money being lost on a non event in Bryansford village that isn't going to happen.

was going to say that! Its a start and ones complaining here that nothing was being done or it was too slow!!! Christ lets get our county teams a place to train and in a central place where no one is going to far out of their way to get to, parking and the likes of the other stuff can still happen but lets take it for what it is at the moment...

I'm sure people who work within their own clubs when trying to find funding, planning permission and the rest have come across this a lot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 01:13:44 PM
Absolutely delighted to see the progress at Dunsilly.
Well done to those past & present who put the hard work in.
Hopefully that facility will make logistics easier for county teams to prepare and result in increased appetite to play for Antrim.
As for hosting Club & County games - there is no point thinking of foresight - to all concerned in planning Casement was going to take care of that.
And I for one hope it still will be the case.
Like Dunsilly - better late than never.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Thats what was granted in 2013

Construction of GAA centre of partication to include 12 changing rooms canteen fitness suite physio retail and associated admin.space. Site works including construction of a new tunnel though railway embankment 94 car and 3 bus spaces and boundary treatment and new boundary fencing.

In 2015 St Comgalls Antrim applied for
Retention of area of hardstanding for use as a temporary car park to serve adjacent pitch approved under planning permission T/2008/0718/F

thats currently pending in the planning service

I use this site for my work to look at planning applications etc http://www.geopii.com/planning/ zoom in where the site is at Dunsilly and click on the icons. it lists below what was approved/applied for etc and you can see the drawings as well through Planning ni - go to Public Access for Planning Applications - view planning application online via Publicaccess website - then in the search box put in 'T/2008/0718/F'

you can see all the documents and drawings that was applied for
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing'

A real get out of jail free card is that one. Plenty of voices at the time when it was first muted, stating this Ulster Council led Casement redevelopment would not suit Antrims needs but those perspectives were simply  ignored. Dunsilly's design/layout should have had a level of contingency (in terms of how it would be used) built into it IMO.

I repeat again ... who would want to watch a national league game OR a county final in a 30K+ stadium where we'd be lucky to get 3-4 thousand?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 14, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
For all the failings of the Derry County Board they did get Owenbeg right.
Great facility for both county and club teams.
The one downside to Owenbeg is that at big club/ county matches is the parking along that main Derry line. Ideally they need another exit/ entrance to the main carpark as it is a major bottle neck when everyone leaves. Credit to the stewards though, they are a massive help.

RE; Casement I think they would be better to just improve what was there (new changing rooms and a revamp of the existing stand would be two issues that I would have noted on my visits there) and develop a more central facility like Dunsilly. Im not aware of the logistics of the Dunsilly site but its probably about as central as you are going to get in Antrim with more chance of getting the casual/ neutral supporter in through the gate. I know myself as a North Derry man id go watch a county final in Dunsilly but probably wouldn't if it was in Belfast. Parking/ travel time/ security of the car are all factors I consider when going to a match. Same reasons im not a big fan of Celtic Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
The county own a few acres of land at Ballygrooby which was originally earmarked to develop a training facility before the Dunsilly project.

Might be an idea to develop an Owenbeg type of county ground at that location, beside the M2 which is handy to most GAA people in the county.

Obviously the cost would prohibit this at the present time, but maybe something to consider for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Its a real shame that the foresight was not there to have something that could comfortably cater for 5000 ish - that would handle most finals and National League games as well.  I suppose maybe in their defence they were working on the basis of Casement being ready but at the same time Casement will be too big for County finals, semi finals etc and Antrim is perfectly located to be reasonably accessible for most teams in the county.  'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing' is generally what you hear when you raise anything at the higher levels regarding these type of projects.

The access beneath the railway line would prohibit a large scale development. In fact the project ran into difficulty regarding the Health and Safety aspect to allow for ambulance / medical teams access in the event of a serious injury to a player or spectator. They got around that by pointing out that a smaller ambulance (a hatchback car type) would be able to gain access.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 03:05:42 PM
I see on google maps that there looks to have been a site entrance on the Niblock road. Possible that ground was only rented out to allow plant onto the site? Thinking about it though, you'd need access for heavy vehicles whenever pitch maintenance would need to be carried out would you not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Its a real shame that the foresight was not there to have something that could comfortably cater for 5000 ish - that would handle most finals and National League games as well.  I suppose maybe in their defence they were working on the basis of Casement being ready but at the same time Casement will be too big for County finals, semi finals etc and Antrim is perfectly located to be reasonably accessible for most teams in the county.  'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing' is generally what you hear when you raise anything at the higher levels regarding these type of projects.

The access beneath the railway line would prohibit a large scale development. In fact the project ran into difficulty regarding the Health and Safety aspect to allow for ambulance / medical teams access in the event of a serious injury to a player or spectator. They got around that by pointing out that a smaller ambulance (a hatchback car type) would be able to gain access.

Thats one hell of a getaround. What if theres an incident with mulitple injuries or someone seriously ill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on September 14, 2016, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 14, 2016, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing'

A real get out of jail free card is that one. Plenty of voices at the time when it was first muted, stating this Ulster Council led Casement redevelopment would not suit Antrims needs but those perspectives were simply  ignored. Dunsilly's design/layout should have had a level of contingency (in terms of how it would be used) built into it IMO.

I repeat again ... who would want to watch a national league game OR a county final in a 30K+ stadium where we'd be lucky to get 3-4 thousand?

Was it not self-evident from the off that the site was always going to be defined and limited by the railway line? In other words, there was/is never any possibility of it being other than a training facility. As such, there was no scope for contingencies such as using it for county and big club games. I presume this "limitation" in the scope of usage is reflected in what was paid  for it back in the day?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 14, 2016, 03:23:31 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Its a real shame that the foresight was not there to have something that could comfortably cater for 5000 ish - that would handle most finals and National League games as well.  I suppose maybe in their defence they were working on the basis of Casement being ready but at the same time Casement will be too big for County finals, semi finals etc and Antrim is perfectly located to be reasonably accessible for most teams in the county.  'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing' is generally what you hear when you raise anything at the higher levels regarding these type of projects.

The access beneath the railway line would prohibit a large scale development. In fact the project ran into difficulty regarding the Health and Safety aspect to allow for ambulance / medical teams access in the event of a serious injury to a player or spectator. They got around that by pointing out that a smaller ambulance (a hatchback car type) would be able to gain access.

That's unbelievable if that's true!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2016, 04:31:22 PM
They had on the first set of plans an new access point to the pitches at the bottom of the car parking area but the cost issue of doing this meant that it was omitted. the civil engineering costs of constructing a new bridge etc was far too high.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 14, 2016, 04:38:42 PM
When you see the size of Casement in context with the existing dwellings you can see why theres concerns

http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/ViewDocument.aspx?guid=a6711156-64fd-4ba7-b4b3-82e97bacaa37

to be fair when you see the plans its hard not to wish that we had it started  :(
http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/ViewDocument.aspx?guid=7be4c088-7c5b-455f-9e1b-b29ce69ba9ce


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
It is believed a planning application will go in in November for a 34,000 seater stadium. You would have to imagine the odds are stacked against that at present.

Do you think that's still to high for the residents?
Or for safe emergency exit?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
It is believed a planning application will go in in November for a 34,000 seater stadium. You would have to imagine the odds are stacked against that at present.

Do you think that's still to high for the residents?
Or for safe emergency exit?
Both and with the noises the emergency services are making (nee naw nee naw), I'm not sure how they expect to get around it.

I would have thought the next application would have been at a number & size which had been previously (behind the scenes) agreed with residents and emergency services.

On Dunsilly - being attended to by a mini-ambulance (car) is good going at the minute - be grateful for it! But maybe that limited 999 access answers the question as to why it'll not be developed for bigger numbers also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
It is believed a planning application will go in in November for a 34,000 seater stadium. You would have to imagine the odds are stacked against that at present.

Do you think that's still to high for the residents?
Or for safe emergency exit?
Both and with the noises the emergency services are making (nee naw nee naw), I'm not sure how they expect to get around it.

I would have thought the next application would have been at a number & size which had been previously (behind the scenes) agreed with residents and emergency services.


No idea why you would think that.

Because it would suit all parties.
And in this part of the world it's how things generally get done.

Providing of course there is a size that suits all parties!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 15, 2016, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 14, 2016, 10:39:11 AM
Its a real shame that the foresight was not there to have something that could comfortably cater for 5000 ish - that would handle most finals and National League games as well.  I suppose maybe in their defence they were working on the basis of Casement being ready but at the same time Casement will be too big for County finals, semi finals etc and Antrim is perfectly located to be reasonably accessible for most teams in the county.  'Sure hindsight is always a wonderful thing' is generally what you hear when you raise anything at the higher levels regarding these type of projects.

The access beneath the railway line would prohibit a large scale development. In fact the project ran into difficulty regarding the Health and Safety aspect to allow for ambulance / medical teams access in the event of a serious injury to a player or spectator. They got around that by pointing out that a smaller ambulance (a hatchback car type) would be able to gain access.

Thats one hell of a getaround. What if theres an incident with mulitple injuries or someone seriously ill.

Probably that's why Dunsilly will be a training centre for the county with no major championship matches scheduled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 15, 2016, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 15, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
It is believed a planning application will go in in November for a 34,000 seater stadium. You would have to imagine the odds are stacked against that at present.

Do you think that's still to high for the residents?
Or for safe emergency exit?
Both and with the noises the emergency services are making (nee naw nee naw), I'm not sure how they expect to get around it.

I would have thought the next application would have been at a number & size which had been previously (behind the scenes) agreed with residents and emergency services.


No idea why you would think that.

Because it would suit all parties.
And in this part of the world it's how things generally get done.

Providing of course there is a size that suits all parties!
Last I heard.
GAA 34,000
Residents 25,000
Emergency services 18,000
Supermacs 60,000
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 15, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 15, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 14, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Will Casement go ahead?

Yes I believe so.
In some shape or form - we'll see what in time.
But there's too much to lose for some people for it not to go ahead.
It is believed a planning application will go in in November for a 34,000 seater stadium. You would have to imagine the odds are stacked against that at present.

Do you think that's still to high for the residents?
Or for safe emergency exit?
Both and with the noises the emergency services are making (nee naw nee naw), I'm not sure how they expect to get around it.

I would have thought the next application would have been at a number & size which had been previously (behind the scenes) agreed with residents and emergency services.


No idea why you would think that.

Because it would suit all parties.
And in this part of the world it's how things generally get done.

Providing of course there is a size that suits all parties!
Last I heard.
GAA 34,000
Residents 25,000
Emergency services 18,000

Thanks HS.

18,000 is better than 0.

Although those number deviations do highlight yet again what a monumental f**k up this project had been.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 16, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

I for one would hate for a 30K+ stadium to be Antrims go to ground for County Finals and National League games.

Not one person has said they would look forward to Antrim playing in such an environment. All you get is the 'look it needs to be sorted' type arguments because 'somethings better than nothing'. I totally disagree with this logic.

I think it'll have a seriously negative impact on our games (terrible atmosphere at big games year on year will kill enthusiam for our games, less neutrals attending games, increased running costs looking after concrete means less going toward teams etc). The powers that be remain totally silent in regard to these risks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 10:06:04 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

I for one would hate for a 30K+ stadium to be Antrims go to ground for County Finals and National League games.

Not one person has said they would look forward to Antrim playing in such an environment. All you get is the 'look it needs to be sorted' type arguments because 'somethings better than nothing'. I totally disagree with this logic.

I think it'll have a seriously negative impact on our games (terrible atmosphere at big games year on year will kill enthusiam for our games, less neutrals attending games, increased running costs looking after concrete means less going toward teams etc). The powers that be remain totally silent in regard to these risks

Ignoring the fact that the previous stadium was already too big for our county final (yet still had atmosphere) I have said here before I agree.
Casement isn't on it's own here.
We are building stadia right across the country which are too big.
Look at nearly every county in Ireland's county ground - now ask how many of them are filled? Ever!
Even the big day's out at Clones or Thurles aren't necessarily sold out now.
But on an individual county level we have grounds the length and breadth of Ireland which are have never and will never be even close to half filled.

It is with this in mind that I agree with you - I don't want a huge stadium devoid of atmosphere - in this respect the capacity is not a case of bigger is better.

But also - something IS better than nothing, and it DOES need sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 16, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

I for one would hate for a 30K+ stadium to be Antrims go to ground for County Finals and National League games.

Not one person has said they would look forward to Antrim playing in such an environment. All you get is the 'look it needs to be sorted' type arguments because 'somethings better than nothing'. I totally disagree with this logic.

I think it'll have a seriously negative impact on our games (terrible atmosphere at big games year on year will kill enthusiam for our games, less neutrals attending games, increased running costs looking after concrete means less going toward teams etc). The powers that be remain totally silent in regard to these risks

But we need a community development, where else will the Feile office go?
The old Casement was such a community hub that it needs replaced so badly. We need to economically regenerate W Belfast.

So many issues to consider except those that actually matter to Antrim GAA folk. Tired of the arguments at this stage especially when no one can actually answer any of the concerns.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oisinog on September 16, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
Casement will go ahead apparnetly its a key feature in the Rugby world cup application
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 11:43:07 AM
Casement will be rebuilt, do not doubt it. Talk of what is best for Antrim is irrelevant as well with regards Casement as this is not money for Antrim GAA but rather Belfast City or West Belfast to be precise. The Ulster council have a supporting role that will push the needs for something fit for purpose for Ulster Championship games.

Yes for Antrim specific purposes a 10k facility somewhere accessible would be great but these wishes being fulfilled are not only unlikely any way soon but such a desire does not have any real relevanvce to the aims of the Casement Park project.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 12:14:49 PM
NAG is probably not far off the type of thinking behind the embryonic drive to redevelop Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 16, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
At a very high level the way I see it:

1. Antrim GAA folk want something reasonably sized (10K), new and modern. Play club cship semis/finals and county games.

2. NI Sport/Ulster GAA want a massive all seater stadium (35K+) that can host concerts and ulster cship matches.

There is no middle ground here between what the two groups want and we as Antrim gaels are the losers in all this.

Is it only a matter of time before the project is canned? At the end of the day its a scandalous waste of tax payers money thus far tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?

Absolutely - see your point now.
But that's to be expected when it's not GAA money - it's taxpayers money.
Therefore certain other people can legitimately claim a vested interest.
I agree that's unfortunately the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 16, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
At a very high level the way I see it:

1. Antrim GAA folk want something reasonably sized (10K), new and modern. Play club cship semis/finals and county games.

2. NI Sport/Ulster GAA want a massive all seater stadium (35K+) that can host concerts and ulster cship matches.

There is no middle ground here between what the two groups want and we as Antrim gaels are the losers in all this.

Is it only a matter of time before the project is canned? At the end of the day its a scandalous waste of tax payers money thus far tbh.

Agree with all but that bit - not canned - find a new project - won't be what everyone wanted - but there is no alternative. We must see a stadium (of some size) at Casement Park. I can countenance how any Gael would consider anything other than a GAA stadium there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?

Absolutely - see your point now.
But that's to be expected when it's not GAA money - it's taxpayers money.
Therefore certain other people can legitimately claim a vested interest.
I agree that's unfortunately the case.

Not when the money is being allocated to the GAA, others are band wagon jumpers and are pushing their own agendas.
IMHO they are neither needed or wanted but they can see the benefits for themselves so have pushed themselves into the campaign.

The GAA are the sole body being given the money therefore it is up to them how it is utilised within reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?

Absolutely - see your point now.
But that's to be expected when it's not GAA money - it's taxpayers money.
Therefore certain other people can legitimately claim a vested interest.
I agree that's unfortunately the case.

Not when the money is being allocated to the GAA, others are band wagon jumpers and are pushing their own agendas.
IMHO they are neither needed or wanted but they can see the benefits for themselves so have pushed themselves into the campaign.

The GAA are the sole body being given the money therefore it is up to them how it is utilised within reason.

There's no shortage of bandwagon jumpers pursuing their own agendas that's for sure! And I agree neither needed or wanted!
But saying the money is allocated to the GAA is different to saying they can do what they want with it!

It's been allocated to the Casement Park project.
If it was merely given over to Ulster Council - you can bet not one penny would be spent in Belfast let alone Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:38:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?

Absolutely - see your point now.
But that's to be expected when it's not GAA money - it's taxpayers money.
Therefore certain other people can legitimately claim a vested interest.
I agree that's unfortunately the case.

Not when the money is being allocated to the GAA, others are band wagon jumpers and are pushing their own agendas.
IMHO they are neither needed or wanted but they can see the benefits for themselves so have pushed themselves into the campaign.

The GAA are the sole body being given the money therefore it is up to them how it is utilised within reason.

There's no shortage of bandwagon jumpers pursuing their own agendas that's for sure! And I agree neither needed or wanted!
But saying the money is allocated to the GAA is different to saying they can do what they want with it!

It's been allocated to the Casement Park project.
If it was merely given over to Ulster Council - you can bet not one penny would be spent in Belfast let alone Antrim.

That was my reference to - within reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 16, 2016, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 16, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
At a very high level the way I see it:

1. Antrim GAA folk want something reasonably sized (10K), new and modern. Play club cship semis/finals and county games.

2. NI Sport/Ulster GAA want a massive all seater stadium (35K+) that can host concerts and ulster cship matches.

There is no middle ground here between what the two groups want and we as Antrim gaels are the losers in all this.

Is it only a matter of time before the project is canned? At the end of the day its a scandalous waste of tax payers money thus far tbh.

Agree with all but that bit - not canned - find a new project - won't be what everyone wanted - but there is no alternative. We must see a stadium (of some size) at Casement Park. I can countenance how any Gael would consider anything other than a GAA stadium there.

What I was getting at here is that surely there will come a point in time were Stormont will pull the money allocated if the developers don't start actually constructing whatever it is they are going to build.

A graveyard casement will then handed back to Antrim GAA in a state of disrepair. Can anyone see that as a possibility?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 16, 2016, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 16, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
At a very high level the way I see it:

1. Antrim GAA folk want something reasonably sized (10K), new and modern. Play club cship semis/finals and county games.

2. NI Sport/Ulster GAA want a massive all seater stadium (35K+) that can host concerts and ulster cship matches.

There is no middle ground here between what the two groups want and we as Antrim gaels are the losers in all this.

Is it only a matter of time before the project is canned? At the end of the day its a scandalous waste of tax payers money thus far tbh.

Agree with all but that bit - not canned - find a new project - won't be what everyone wanted - but there is no alternative. We must see a stadium (of some size) at Casement Park. I can countenance how any Gael would consider anything other than a GAA stadium there.

What I was getting at here is that surely there will come a point in time were Stormont will pull the money allocated if the developers don't start actually constructing whatever it is they are going to build.

A graveyard casement will then handed back to Antrim GAA in a state of disrepair. Can anyone see that as a possibility?

In short No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
You think not? i can see it happen if the two parties are not prepared to shift on what they want.

The GAA want 34k, the residents 25k, neither party seems to want to budge on this. I dont see how this will ever be resolved at the moment. Casement has lay in ruins for years now and it doesn't look like it will be used for years to come.

Is it next year that they launch the new planning application?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
You think not? i can see it happen if the two parties are not prepared to shift on what they want.

The GAA want 34k, the residents 25k, neither party seems to want to budge on this. I dont see how this will ever be resolved at the moment. Casement has lay in ruins for years now and it doesn't look like it will be used for years to come.

Is it next year that they launch the new planning application?

They'll find a number DR.
Personally I think the GAA will bring down their desired capacity.
After all they are small funders compared to taxpayers.
And even for them something is better than nothing.
As I said, I will be more than happy to see capacity reduced from the original plans.
I'm not convinced we'd ever have got the big games the larger attendance was aimed at anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
Casement will be developed and the money will not be pulled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 16, 2016, 08:53:30 PM
Looking forward to the two finals tomorrow. Hopefully two good games. I hope St. Endas can put it up to Cloughmills as they've 4 or 5 quality hurlers. Not sure what will happen in the other game but with Donal O'Hara not fully fit I think Lamh Dearg may win it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 16, 2016, 09:04:38 PM
Cloghmills and Lamh Dhearg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2016, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 16, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 16, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
no one will be happy or seems willing to compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if this project never happened at all and we were given a cash sum to clean the place back up and back to what it was before.

Given a cash sum by who?

There's no real opportunity for a "clean-up".
The stand needs demolished. The rest of the place is waste ground at best.
For a functioning stadium construction is needed.

We're all frustrated and I was certainly one who wanted people held to account for the debacle  - but I think we all need to focus on ensuring a stadium is built at Casement.

from the govt - basically it will be a 'look we fucked up here big time, your not getting that stadium so here yeh go lads. clean that aul mess up and say no more.'

I said last year we may get used to playing county finals at Ballycastle and that wont change for the next 5 years.

No one will ever be held accountable, thats the joy of working for the Govt. they just pass the buck and nothing ever happens to them.

Its deeply frustrating for us all because i want nothing more than a county ground where we can go an watch our teams play at, a place were our youth want to aim to get to play a county final at.

Working FOR the government or working IN government?  :-[
Well that's a pouring petrol on the fire for some DR ;)

Personally if Govt gave enough money to build a small enough stand on both sides, terrace behind each goals, and the accompanying changing & social facilities - I'd be delighted! Modern and fit for purpose!

That's said Hectic & OisinOg point to other valid issues.
NAG I'm not sure what you are getting at :-[

Look at the drivers for the Casement project now on social media and through the various campaigns.
Are they Antrim GAA people or are they outside bodies with a now vested interested in the project?

Your just right NAG1, surprised more haven't picked up on this. It's basically the Feile/Visit West Belfast crowd as the main pressure groups now, in different guises.

Do you think they are interested in Antrim Gaa? They will probably want Casement to base themselves and hold their events
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 17, 2016, 06:46:08 PM
That was a couple of cracking matches in Armoy today and full credit to all 4 clubs. I was particularly impressed by St. Endas number 5 and 15 for Cloughmills. Don't know who they are but 2 excellent hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2016, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 17, 2016, 06:46:08 PM
That was a couple of cracking matches in Armoy today and full credit to all 4 clubs. I was particularly impressed by St. Endas number 5 and 15 for Cloughmills. Don't know who they are but 2 excellent hurlers.

5....John McCormack ........15 ......Liam Cassley..........two entertaining games.  Cushendun will be kicking themselves they didn't kick on when they went 2 up. Great to see how much it meant to Lamh Dearg to win .....and also to see how devastated Cushendun were to lose. Their players were distraught which I think is a great sign. Fair play to all 4 teams. .......that was the best £7 I've spent this year. Some battle between Donal O'Hara and Donal Nugent ......those two boys would make many a team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 17, 2016, 07:45:30 PM
Typo on the program (well done on that btw)

5 for St Endas was John McGoldrick

They certainly gave it a good lash. They did the most of the attacking but the wide tally came back to bite them. Was a great championship match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 17, 2016, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 17, 2016, 06:46:08 PM
That was a couple of cracking matches in Armoy today and full credit to all 4 clubs. I was particularly impressed by St. Endas number 5 and 15 for Cloughmills. Don't know who they are but 2 excellent hurlers.
15 for Cloughmills Liam Cassley ex Ballymena and an excellent hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 18, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2016, 07:45:30 PM
Typo on the program (well done on that btw)

5 for St Endas was John McGoldrick

They certainly gave it a good lash. They did the most of the attacking but the wide tally came back to bite them. Was a great championship match
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Fell short today but just. Another year at IHC will do us no harm. 15 decent today of his left was decent but a lesson for us on the line plus the standard of ball we put forward was woefully high and and played into their  hands. But hey the pressure of the day on young mens shoulders we had some dig at it and we are not finished yet! Congrats to Biddies on grinding out a result, best of luck to them going forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 18, 2016, 03:27:10 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2016, 03:04:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 17, 2016, 07:45:30 PM
Typo on the program (well done on that btw)

5 for St Endas was John McGoldrick

They certainly gave it a good lash. They did the most of the attacking but the wide tally came back to bite them. Was a great championship match
[/quote
Fell short today but just. Another year at IHC will do us no harm. 15 decent today of his left was decent but a lesson for us on the line plus the standard of ball we put forward was woefully high and and played into their  hands. But hey the pressure of the day on young mens shoulders we had some dig at it and we are not finished yet! Congrats to Biddies on grinding out a result, best of luck to them going forward.
[/quote
I will have to watch the dvd back to appreciate what went down but will put it out there that all the value in the championship for the neutral this year was in IHC? Trend emerging?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 18, 2016, 09:27:14 AM
What age is Liam Cassley?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 18, 2016, 09:33:07 AM
Reality hits home .......London, Carlow, Armagh, Kildare, Westmeath.....Our senior hurling fixtures next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
With Westmeath and Carlow ahead of us going on recent form

Is what it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on September 19, 2016, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 18, 2016, 09:27:14 AM
What age is Liam Cassley?

30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 19, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
Absolutely.

Westmeath & Carlow would be disappointed to lose to us - we're are not even the big hitter in this group.

We can call it the new order or our new level - we can complain they aren't the most glamorous of ties for supporters - but we cannot say this is not the level of our players.

Antrim hurling is in the league it belongs and I don't say that as a slight or as criticism - its just true.

Upward and onward, lets hope our set up knuckles down and get on with it to win the group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 19, 2016, 09:47:16 AM
Liam Cassley is one of the casualties/beneficiaries of Ballymena withdrawing from the county leagues.  Decent footballer as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2016, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 19, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
Absolutely.

Westmeath & Carlow would be disappointed to lose to us - we're are not even the big hitter in this group.

We can call it the new order or our new level - we can complain they aren't the most glamorous of ties for supporters - but we cannot say this is not the level of our players.

Antrim hurling is in the league it belongs and I don't say that as a slight or as criticism - its just true.

Upward and onward, lets hope our set up knuckles down and get on with it to win the group.

It's not new is the thing. It's where we've been for quite a while. It just seems a lot didn't realise or want to accept it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 19, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Think our issue is we always considered ourselves a step above everything else in Ulster and now we find ourselves in the same division as Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: general_lee on September 20, 2016, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 19, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Think our issue is we always considered ourselves a step above everything else in Ulster and now we find ourselves in the same division as Armagh.
Eh yous were bate by Meath x2 who are a division below so don't act like you haven't already hit rock bottom
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 20, 2016, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 19, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Think our issue is we always considered ourselves a step above everything else in Ulster and now we find ourselves in the same division as Armagh.
Eh yous were bate by Meath x2 who are a division below so don't act like you haven't already hit rock bottom

What does the x2 mean?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
It is pretty galling all the same that we are at the same level as Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 20, 2016, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 19, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Think our issue is we always considered ourselves a step above everything else in Ulster and now we find ourselves in the same division as Armagh.
Eh yous were bate by Meath x2 who are a division below so don't act like you haven't already hit rock bottom

We're very much aware that we've hit a low. Thanks for your insightful contribution though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 12:52:05 PM
Well here is hoping for a clean slate approach from the management team, any one good enough to play be given the opportunity to commit.

If they are good enough and commit to the panel then they play and if they don't commit then fair enough cheerio.

I would prefer 15 players on the panel who are committed to each other and the team, than 30 who pick and chose. At least then I can go along and support them regardless of the outcome knowing that they are giving off their best to the county set up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors

Well I think anyone can see through those people, I am talking about commitment in the broadest sense, commitment to the team in that you give everything you can in terms of effort/ lifestyle and all the added things that go into making a top quality inter county hurler.

I would have someone in place to make sure that no player was out of pocket playing for Antrim, which also works the other way around for anyone trying to work the system, cheerio.

To me it takes a meeting at the start of the year to outline clearly what is a valid claim, state it out quite plainly what the parameters are and that there will be a zero tolerance policy with regard to dodgy claims.

I dont for a second think that the majority of county hurlers go in with the expectation of getting anything other than what they are owed.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:44:09 PM
So what about students. Is the extra travelling/training commitments hitting their ability to get a part time job for instance? How do we square that one? Is this the way they deal with that on the qt?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:44:09 PM
So what about students. Is the extra travelling/training commitments hitting their ability to get a part time job for instance? How do we square that one? Is this the way they deal with that on the qt?

I would say the way other counties get around this is by ensuring that they get part time jobs which suit their training schedule, maybe this is not applicable in Antrim, but I think we start with a policy of travel expenses are for travel only and we work with the other issues after that.

This way we ensure that everyone knows the score and that everyone is being treated exactly the same across the board.

For all of those that would be in this position a few heads around the squad in terms of support could hopefully point them in the direction of a suitable part time job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 20, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 12:52:05 PM
Well here is hoping for a clean slate approach from the management team, any one good enough to play be given the opportunity to commit.

If they are good enough and commit to the panel then they play and if they don't commit then fair enough cheerio.

I would prefer 15 players on the panel who are committed to each other and the team, than 30 who pick and chose. At least then I can go along and support them regardless of the outcome knowing that they are giving off their best to the county set up.

NAG, its all well and good saying that now but it will be a different story when we have the most committed lads playing and getting beat. We will then be in the old 'there's better hurlers than x in this county' scenario.

Look at Saul McCaughan. An unreal talent and one which should grace our county team. Unfortunately due to work commitments last year he couldn't commit. Are we really going to take this hard approach with our best talent?

I don't know the answer, just throwing it out there. I imagine sambo etc being old school are only looking at those who commit full time, so that will rule the likes of Saul out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 20, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 12:52:05 PM
Well here is hoping for a clean slate approach from the management team, any one good enough to play be given the opportunity to commit.

If they are good enough and commit to the panel then they play and if they don't commit then fair enough cheerio.

I would prefer 15 players on the panel who are committed to each other and the team, than 30 who pick and chose. At least then I can go along and support them regardless of the outcome knowing that they are giving off their best to the county set up.

NAG, its all well and good saying that now but it will be a different story when we have the most committed lads playing and getting beat. We will then be in the old 'there's better hurlers than x in this county' scenario.

Look at Saul McCaughan. An unreal talent and one which should grace our county team. Unfortunately due to work commitments last year he couldn't commit. Are we really going to take this hard approach with our best talent?

I don't know the answer, just throwing it out there. I imagine sambo etc being old school are only looking at those who commit full time, so that will rule the likes of Saul out.

Well it would be my approach simple as that, we have to basically hit the restart button after last years debacle and other years that have preceded it.

We have to get to a place where it is valued again to play for this county that the players see that it is something worthwhile to be involved in and commit too. The things/ distractions like travel expenses that go on only take away from the chance of building something worthwhile and special.

The only way to create something like this in my experience is by hard work, yeah and if that means work commitments rule you out then fair enough no harm done. If it means that a stag party mid season rules you out then fair enough as well. If it means you'd rather go drinking or kicking soccer then that also would rule you out.

For me you have to create the environment first then, as players in other counties routinely do, they sacrifice those things above and this then adds to the fact that you have created something special, something worth being a part of and something worth fighting for when you cross the line.

It may be simplistic and maybe even old school but I think that is where we are currently at.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 20, 2016, 03:25:44 PM
Quote from: Usain on September 20, 2016, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2016, 12:52:05 PM
Well here is hoping for a clean slate approach from the management team, any one good enough to play be given the opportunity to commit.

If they are good enough and commit to the panel then they play and if they don't commit then fair enough cheerio.

I would prefer 15 players on the panel who are committed to each other and the team, than 30 who pick and chose. At least then I can go along and support them regardless of the outcome knowing that they are giving off their best to the county set up.

NAG, its all well and good saying that now but it will be a different story when we have the most committed lads playing and getting beat. We will then be in the old 'there's better hurlers than x in this county' scenario.

Look at Saul McCaughan. An unreal talent and one which should grace our county team. Unfortunately due to work commitments last year he couldn't commit. Are we really going to take this hard approach with our best talent?

I don't know the answer, just throwing it out there. I imagine sambo etc being old school are only looking at those who commit full time, so that will rule the likes of Saul out.
No doubting Saul is a great talent. But lets be honest here. Everyone in this county can understand a man who can't commit because of work. However he wasn't interested in commiting to playing for Antrim. Was he not thrown off the panel for drinking before the infamous London trip??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 20, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
I'm with NAG here.

If a manager is a few years into a cycle with a group of guys and needs to make provisions or exceptions for a special case - then maybe that can be accommodated.

But where Antrim are right now - it's in or out.
Everyone on the same standing - done right and done together.

If that means results aren't what we would like immediately - then we as supporters must accept that for the long term gain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 20, 2016, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 20, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
I'm with NAG here.

If a manager is a few years into a cycle with a group of guys and needs to make provisions or exceptions for a special case - then maybe that can be accommodated.

But where Antrim are right now - it's in or out.
Everyone on the same standing - done right and done together.

If that means results aren't what we would like immediately - then we as supporters must accept that for the long term gain.

100%. As supporters we must accept that the most talented hurlers in Antrim are not always the most committed and we won't see them in the saffron colours. Unfortunate but I am in agreement here, need to start with solid foundations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 20, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
Predictions for the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 20, 2016, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 20, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
Predictions for the weekend?

Dunloy in Minor and Cushendal in Senior. Dunloy will win with a bit to spare and hoping the senior game is going to be a tight affair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 21, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
Yeah Dunloy will not be troubled in the minor in a one sided curtain raiser and I think Cushendall will retain the senior but hopefully we will have a game on our hands here - no reason not to believe that will be the case.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 21, 2016, 09:16:46 AM
Dunloy to win the minor final by as many as they want.

Loughgiel to edge Cushendall in the senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2016, 09:22:22 AM
Minor and senior finals both being contested by the 1st and second placed teams in their league. Are Dunloy favorites? ... I'd say we are, but huge disrespect being shown to a very talented Rossa team full of experienced players. I'll be expecting very keen contests in both games. With 4 clubs involved, there should be a great crowd there on Sunday (hopefully plenty of neutrals) if it stays dry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2016, 09:48:31 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2016, 09:22:22 AM
Minor and senior finals both being contested by the 1st and second placed teams in their league. Are Dunloy favorites? ... I'd say we are, but huge disrespect being shown to a very talented Rossa team full of experienced players. I'll be expecting very keen contests in both games. With 4 clubs involved, there should be a great crowd there on Sunday (hopefully plenty of neutrals) if it stays dry.

From what I have seen Saturday and Sunday to be wet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 21, 2016, 10:39:13 AM
Yeah forecast for the weekend is pretty poor though hopefully given it has been pretty inaccurate lately this trend will continue - would be nice to bring the kids along but will not be doing so if it is a piss of a day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2016, 11:21:43 AM
Ourselves in the minor by 6 points - think it will be tighter than people think. Rossa have a good team there with the bulk of their U16 team that went unbeaten last season in all competitions. Some good hurlers in their ranks so i expect a good game.

Senior final im edging toward Cdall by 2 points. Expect a very tough physical game between the best two teams in the county. Tbh theres nothing between them, esp at this time of the year, and its hard to call but im going for Cdall after seeing them this year a few times.

Hopefully theres a big crowd there for the games, looking forward to them both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 21, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors

The GAA/GPA have increased the mileage allowance and with that I presume any expenses but into a county board are then passed on to Croke Park for refunding.

I'm assuming that's how it will work, plus there's a new nutritional allowance for the lads to buy chips on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 05:09:24 PM
In the Minor game it will unfortunately for Rossa, be a 20+ points victory to Dunloy.

Very surprised most are going for Cushendall in the Seniors.  Loughgiel are now the bookies favourites coming through the Ballycastle game.  Would have to agree.  Loughgiel hadn't a full panel last year, Benny McCarry now back, the McCloskeys injury free and they have a very strong bench.  Cushendall, albeit the younger players have impressed, are on paper a weaker team than last year. 

All pointing to a Loughgiel victory but will the three in a row mean more to Cushendall than preventing them from achieving it to Loughgiel!

Time will tell!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
It's a very different cushendall team to last year though. Is Sean Delargy still injured?

It's a hard one to call this.

i can't make it  :( but would have really liked to have gone to it.

I went to the two semis and thought Loughgiel looked a bit better but really Cushendall won theirs handy enough so hard to judge.  I don't think there'll be much in it.

I don't know much about the minors but winning a final by 20+ would seem like a lot for a final. Rossa have been strong at underage so would be surprised if they got beat by that much. i suspect that Dunloy team will be the backbone of their senior team for a while after the next few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 21, 2016, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 05:09:24 PM
In the Minor game it will unfortunately for Rossa, be a 20+ points victory to Dunloy.

Very surprised most are going for Cushendall in the Seniors.  Loughgiel are now the bookies favourites coming through the Ballycastle game.  Would have to agree.  Loughgiel hadn't a full panel last year, Benny McCarry now back, the McCloskeys injury free and they have a very strong bench.  Cushendall, albeit the younger players have impressed, are on paper a weaker team than last year. 

All pointing to a Loughgiel victory but will the three in a row mean more to Cushendall than preventing them from achieving it to Loughgiel!

Time will tell!

Tony McCloskey came off injured in the semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Shane McNaughton.

That would be two handy enough boys. Those two are huge losses!! Think it will be too much of a loss & the bookies have it right. Still quiet over in Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
I don't think either team has had to show their full hand. Cushendall didn't have to come out off first gear and the wind ruined the other semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Shane McNaughton.

That would be two handy enough boys. Those two are huge losses!! Think it will be too much of a loss & the bookies have it right. Still quiet over in Loughgiel.

Shane was Cushendall's best player in the All Ireland Final.

Arron Grafton would be arguably one of the best defenders in Ulster.

Huge losses indeed!

Was there not two or three of the McCloskey brothers injured for last years final.

I know Eddie came on for the last 10 mins but was obvious he shouldn't have been used.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2016, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Shane McNaughton.

That would be two handy enough boys. Those two are huge losses!! Think it will be too much of a loss & the bookies have it right. Still quiet over in Loughgiel.

Shane was Cushendall's best player in the All Ireland Final.

Arron Grafton would be arguably one of the best defenders in Ulster.

Huge losses indeed!

Was there not two or three of the McCloskey brothers injured for last years final.

I know Eddie came on for the last 10 mins but was obvious he shouldn't have been used.

That's it sorted then!! Loughgiel to win by thirty!!! Have you any wit?? No games or mind games are won on here or no manager would use this as a means motivate his players to win a county final!

Back your fecking team and stop trying to be a WUM... My money's on Cushendall but they can't afford to have a poor period in the game, their defence is pretty good, as is Loughgiels so it will be tight but the Dall should squeeze through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 21, 2016, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors

The GAA/GPA have increased the mileage allowance and with that I presume any expenses but into a county board are then passed on to Croke Park for refunding.

I'm assuming that's how it will work, plus there's a new nutritional allowance for the lads to buy chips on!

GAA Gpa increase means nothing. The last increase came a few years back from 40p to 50p a mile. The hurlers were asked in the same year to drop from 40p a mile to 35p a mile so for every mile traveled by panel and managers the county were actually making 15p a mile on the back of the players. When you consider the amount of miles clocked up between ballycastle/ cushendall etc to Jordanstown 3/4 times a week for 6 months  that's a hell of a lot taken from the players pockets for representing their county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim abu on September 22, 2016, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2016, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Shane McNaughton.

That would be two handy enough boys. Those two are huge losses!! Think it will be too much of a loss & the bookies have it right. Still quiet over in Loughgiel.

Shane was Cushendall's best player in the All Ireland Final.

Arron Grafton would be arguably one of the best defenders in Ulster.

Huge losses indeed!

Was there not two or three of the McCloskey brothers injured for last years final.

I know Eddie came on for the last 10 mins but was obvious he shouldn't have been used.

That's it sorted then!! Loughgiel to win by thirty!!! Have you any wit?? No games or mind games are won on here or no manager would use this as a means motivate his players to win a county final!

Back your fecking team and stop trying to be a WUM... My money's on Cushendall but they can't afford to have a poor period in the game, their defence is pretty good, as is Loughgiels so it will be tight but the Dall should squeeze through

PMSL if ever there was a WUM just head over to the football pages, youre always bigging up Cargin lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2016, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on September 22, 2016, 09:08:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2016, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 21, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 21, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 21, 2016, 05:25:55 PM
The only person cushendall have missing from last years team is arron Graffin. So it is only one player weaker
Shane McNaughton.

That would be two handy enough boys. Those two are huge losses!! Think it will be too much of a loss & the bookies have it right. Still quiet over in Loughgiel.

Shane was Cushendall's best player in the All Ireland Final.

Arron Grafton would be arguably one of the best defenders in Ulster.

Huge losses indeed!

Was there not two or three of the McCloskey brothers injured for last years final.

I know Eddie came on for the last 10 mins but was obvious he shouldn't have been used.

That's it sorted then!! Loughgiel to win by thirty!!! Have you any wit?? No games or mind games are won on here or no manager would use this as a means motivate his players to win a county final!

Back your fecking team and stop trying to be a WUM... My money's on Cushendall but they can't afford to have a poor period in the game, their defence is pretty good, as is Loughgiels so it will be tight but the Dall should squeeze through

PMSL if ever there was a WUM just head over to the football pages, youre always bigging up Cargin lol.

Cargin are champions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2016, 09:32:58 AM
MR what he says is pretty accurate!! Graffin and McNaughton are big losses.

Loughgiel in my view should be favourites but only marginally. I think it's one of the closer to call county finals in years and i don't think nerves or whatever will come into it as both have won a lot recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 22, 2016, 10:15:59 AM
Both are big losses yes. But it hasn't made very much difference throughout the league campaign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
It's a very different cushendall team to last year though. Is Sean Delargy still injured?

It's a hard one to call this.

i can't make it  :( but would have really liked to have gone to it.

I went to the two semis and thought Loughgiel looked a bit better but really Cushendall won theirs handy enough so hard to judge.  I don't think there'll be much in it.

I don't know much about the minors but winning a final by 20+ would seem like a lot for a final. Rossa have been strong at underage so would be surprised if they got beat by that much. i suspect that Dunloy team will be the backbone of their senior team for a while after the next few years.

It certainly seems to be a lot Tommy but when you have already beat the same team by double that amount already this year, it does not bode well for Rossa.

Rossa will however have pretty much the same team next year at Minor level.

St Johns would have been much tougher opposition but we all know (actually we don't know) what happened there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2016, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
It certainly seems to be a lot Tommy but when you have already beat the same team by double that amount already this year, it does not bode well for Rossa.

St Johns would have been much tougher opposition

Dunloy have not played Rossa this year at minor. Rossa beat St Johns handy in the League

One of the reasons why the internet should not be trusted  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2016, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 22, 2016, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2016, 10:16:30 AM
It certainly seems to be a lot Tommy but when you have already beat the same team by double that amount already this year, it does not bode well for Rossa.

St Johns would have been much tougher opposition

Dunloy have not played Rossa this year at minor. Rossa beat St Johns handy in the League

One of the reasons why the internet should not be trusted  ::)

That was an U16 result I had quoted.  Apologies, to Rossa Minors. Re-assessing the results Dunloy by 5 pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
So all to play for then  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 22, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 21, 2016, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors

The GAA/GPA have increased the mileage allowance and with that I presume any expenses but into a county board are then passed on to Croke Park for refunding.

I'm assuming that's how it will work, plus there's a new nutritional allowance for the lads to buy chips on!

GAA Gpa increase means nothing. The last increase came a few years back from 40p to 50p a mile. The hurlers were asked in the same year to drop from 40p a mile to 35p a mile so for every mile traveled by panel and managers the county were actually making 15p a mile on the back of the players. When you consider the amount of miles clocked up between ballycastle/ cushendall etc to Jordanstown 3/4 times a week for 6 months  that's a hell of a lot taken from the players pockets for representing their county.

Well that's wrong to do and the players could have justifiably refused to accept it. Ultimately Croke Park was paying that 50p a mile and that rate should have been passed onto the players, not creamed off by the county board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: general_lee on September 22, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
It is pretty galling all the same that we are at the same level as Armagh.
Why? You might actually learn something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 22, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 22, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
It is pretty galling all the same that we are at the same level as Armagh.
Why? You might actually learn something.

Exactly, get rid of the illusions of Grandeur!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 22, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 22, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
It is pretty galling all the same that we are at the same level as Armagh.
Why? You might actually learn something.

Exactly, get rid of the illusions of Grandeur!

No harm but we will learn very little from playing against the like of Armagh.  It is galling in the sense that while we have dropped back badly (and no illusions of grandeur) we still win Ulster year after year.  In an ideal world had we dropped back so badly other Ulster teams would have passed us and forced us to up our game locally but instead the whole province has just become even more of a hurling backwater.  I am not blaming Armagh or any other Ulster side - I think Croke Park needs to have a hand in stimulating Ulster Hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 22, 2016, 02:35:04 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 22, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 22, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 22, 2016, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 20, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
It is pretty galling all the same that we are at the same level as Armagh.
Why? You might actually learn something.

Exactly, get rid of the illusions of Grandeur!

No harm but we will learn very little from playing against the like of Armagh.  It is galling in the sense that while we have dropped back badly (and no illusions of grandeur) we still win Ulster year after year.  In an ideal world had we dropped back so badly other Ulster teams would have passed us and forced us to up our game locally but instead the whole province has just become even more of a hurling backwater.  I am not blaming Armagh or any other Ulster side - I think Croke Park needs to have a hand in stimulating Ulster Hurling.

They have more interest (an investment) in promoting hurling in America & the middle east than in Ulster.

No secret as to why.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2016, 02:36:49 PM
We are both there on merit so I don't think we have any room to patronise!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 22, 2016, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2016, 02:36:49 PM
We are both there on merit so I don't think we have any room to patronise!!

No patronising - if anything I am saddened that we are meeting Armagh at this level rather than us remaining at a higher level and Armagh and other Ulster teams playing league games against us at that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
Both matches will be close. I'd say Dunloy in the minors by 4 or 5.

Cushendall are favourites, no matter what the bookies say. Going for three in a row and last year's all ireland finalists? Of course they are. It'll be close. One score either way I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on September 23, 2016, 02:59:03 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 22, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on September 21, 2016, 11:40:23 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on September 21, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
What about the 'commited to claiming as much as you can but dress it up as commitment to the team culture'? Heard some big numbers mentioned in regard to expenses claimed. I think its a thing and until we change that culture, I won't expect any change in our on the pitch endeavors

The GAA/GPA have increased the mileage allowance and with that I presume any expenses but into a county board are then passed on to Croke Park for refunding.

I'm assuming that's how it will work, plus there's a new nutritional allowance for the lads to buy chips on!

GAA Gpa increase means nothing. The last increase came a few years back from 40p to 50p a mile. The hurlers were asked in the same year to drop from 40p a mile to 35p a mile so for every mile traveled by panel and managers the county were actually making 15p a mile on the back of the players. When you consider the amount of miles clocked up between ballycastle/ cushendall etc to Jordanstown 3/4 times a week for 6 months  that's a hell of a lot taken from the players pockets for representing their county.

Well that's wrong to do and the players could have justifiably refused to accept it. Ultimately Croke Park was paying that 50p a mile and that rate should have been passed onto the players, not creamed off by the county board.

Took the counties "were skint, and cant hold out to these increases" at face value. At the time people thought it was just a gpa recommendation  and not being paid by Croke Park. So players felt it was right thing to do. I also get the feeling that there was a two tiered mileage system for gpa reps/ senior players and then the other 20 guys on the panel as the GPA reps were not opposed to the decrease, which in hindsight I find strange
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 06:24:55 AM
And all the while, development squad players never got a look in when it came to feeling like they were valued in any tangible way (i.e 'Theres your county jersey lad... thanks for all your efforts and the efforts of your parents getting you to training') 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
Both matches will be close. I'd say Dunloy in the minors by 4 or 5.

Cushendall are favourites, no matter what the bookies say. Going for three in a row and last year's all ireland finalists? Of course they are. It'll be close. One score either way I'd say.

Irrespective of what has happened before, you have to look at the facts at this present moment in time.

Can you answer two questions for me (simple yes or no would suffice)?

1) Do Loughgiel have a stronger team/panel than they had from last year when defeated by a single point by Cushendall?

2) Do Cushendall have a weaker first 15 as a result of not having the services of Arron & Shane?

If both are yes, then on paper - Loughgiel are favourites.  Anyone trying to put a spin on this is just playing games!

In saying that, being favourites on paper means nothing unless they can produce the goods on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 09:57:38 AM
The lady doth protest too much

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2016, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 09:57:38 AM
The lady doth protest too much

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 22, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
Both matches will be close. I'd say Dunloy in the minors by 4 or 5.

Cushendall are favourites, no matter what the bookies say. Going for three in a row and last year's all ireland finalists? Of course they are. It'll be close. One score either way I'd say.

Irrespective of what has happened before, you have to look at the facts at this present moment in time.

Can you answer two questions for me (simple yes or no would suffice)?

1) Do Loughgiel have a stronger team/panel than they had from last year when defeated by a single point by Cushendall?

2) Do Cushendall have a weaker first 15 as a result of not having the services of Arron & Shane?

If both are yes, then on paper - Loughgiel are favourites.  Anyone trying to put a spin on this is just playing games!

In saying that, being favourites on paper means nothing unless they can produce the goods on the day.

He did say one point either way so for once didn't rule Loughgiel out...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 10:44:10 AM
Yes but its the way he's going out of his way to get rid of the tag ... we all see it  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2016, 10:47:13 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2016, 11:37:20 AM
SHC Final week, hard to beat on here.


I think that Cushendall win scrape through by a few points. Depends if and where they start McManus. Do they start him at 11 and push McAfee into FF?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.

You have to remember that an unfancied Loughgiel U21 team took Cushendall right to the wire this year (stole it at the death in fact).  This was a very strong Cushendall team full of "young stars" that will be playing on Sunday.   The young Loughgiel players would have the mental edge there and in all fairness have held their own at Senior level to date.

The mental edge thing would be fine if things remained relatively unchanged but a Cushendall team going in to a Championship Final with out the services of 2 of arguably their top 3/4 players over the past number of years is certainly not going to give them any more "mental strength" - it does however ease the pressure a bit.

If Cushendall win it will be seen as the young boys coming through well and they delivered but if they lose - sure we were missing Arron & Shane, it will take the young boys time to gain experience senior level, Neil wasn't back that long.

The pressure is fully on the Shamrocks to deliver, full panel to choose from, I was quoted by someone it is the best panel in Ulster - some are already looking forward to another All-Ireland campaign, therefore there should be no excuses winning Antrim against a depleted Cushendall side.

Anything but a Shamrocks win for everyone in Loughgiel will be total devastation. 

Playing things down SIE isn't going to excuse these facts. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.

You have to remember that an unfancied Loughgiel U21 team took Cushendall right to the wire this year (stole it at the death in fact).  This was a very strong Cushendall team full of "young stars" that will be playing on Sunday.   The young Loughgiel players would have the mental edge there and in all fairness have held their own at Senior level to date.

The mental edge thing would be fine if things remained relatively unchanged but a Cushendall team going in to a Championship Final with out the services of 2 of arguably their top 3/4 players over the past number of years is certainly not going to give them any more "mental strength" - it does however ease the pressure a bit.

If Cushendall win it will be seen as the young boys coming through well and they delivered but if they lose - sure we were missing Arron & Shane, it will take the young boys time to gain experience senior level, Neil wasn't back that long.

The pressure is fully on the Shamrocks to deliver, full panel to choose from, I was quoted by someone it is the best panel in Ulster - some are already looking forward to another All-Ireland campaign, therefore there should be no excuses winning Antrim against a depleted Cushendall side.

Anything but a Shamrocks win for everyone in Loughgiel will be total devastation. 

Playing things down SIE isn't going to excuse these facts.

Disagree - if you are going out to play a Championship final you are not going out with the excuse for losing packed up and ready in the bag to pull out at the final whistle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2016, 12:19:55 PM
So Loughiel ran Cushendall right to the wire in the u21 final but cushendall won therefore Loughgiel young players will have the mental edge. How does that work  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 23, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.

You have to remember that an unfancied Loughgiel U21 team took Cushendall right to the wire this year (stole it at the death in fact).  This was a very strong Cushendall team full of "young stars" that will be playing on Sunday.   The young Loughgiel players would have the mental edge there and in all fairness have held their own at Senior level to date.

The mental edge thing would be fine if things remained relatively unchanged but a Cushendall team going in to a Championship Final with out the services of 2 of arguably their top 3/4 players over the past number of years is certainly not going to give them any more "mental strength" - it does however ease the pressure a bit.

If Cushendall win it will be seen as the young boys coming through well and they delivered but if they lose - sure we were missing Arron & Shane, it will take the young boys time to gain experience senior level, Neil wasn't back that long.

The pressure is fully on the Shamrocks to deliver, full panel to choose from, I was quoted by someone it is the best panel in Ulster - some are already looking forward to another All-Ireland campaign, therefore there should be no excuses winning Antrim against a depleted Cushendall side.

Anything but a Shamrocks win for everyone in Loughgiel will be total devastation. 

Playing things down SIE isn't going to excuse these facts.

Rubbish .......Shane McNaughton  (All Ireland final aside) has been poor the past few seasons. Loughiel have as many young talented hurlers as Cushendal. Damon, Cathal, Maol, Wee Betty, James. How have they the mental edge if they lost?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2016, 12:19:55 PM
So Loughiel ran Cushendall right to the wire in the u21 final but cushendall won therefore Loughgiel young players will have the mental edge. How does that work  ???

On the day Loughgiel would have felt robbed, but on reflection months later - those young Loughgiel players can look back and say, we almost beat a highly fancied Cushendall team with quite a few of their Senior hurlers on it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
Yeah but they still lost. I don't buy that argument at all.

They're also not that much in transition if they're only missing 2 players.

McManus wasn't fully fit for the semi I thought. He should add a lot more on sunday if he's fitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.

You have to remember that an unfancied Loughgiel U21 team took Cushendall right to the wire this year (stole it at the death in fact).  This was a very strong Cushendall team full of "young stars" that will be playing on Sunday.   The young Loughgiel players would have the mental edge there and in all fairness have held their own at Senior level to date.

The mental edge thing would be fine if things remained relatively unchanged but a Cushendall team going in to a Championship Final with out the services of 2 of arguably their top 3/4 players over the past number of years is certainly not going to give them any more "mental strength" - it does however ease the pressure a bit.

If Cushendall win it will be seen as the young boys coming through well and they delivered but if they lose - sure we were missing Arron & Shane, it will take the young boys time to gain experience senior level, Neil wasn't back that long.

The pressure is fully on the Shamrocks to deliver, full panel to choose from, I was quoted by someone it is the best panel in Ulster - some are already looking forward to another All-Ireland campaign, therefore there should be no excuses winning Antrim against a depleted Cushendall side.

Anything but a Shamrocks win for everyone in Loughgiel will be total devastation. 

Playing things down SIE isn't going to excuse these facts.

Disagree - if you are going out to play a Championship final you are not going out with the excuse for losing packed up and ready in the bag to pull out at the final whistle.

It will be the players who are going out to play the County Final - they won't be going out with these excuses in mind, but if things don't go Cushendall's way many will use the reasons I have stated as their downfall. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 23, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 23, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
I make Cushendall favourites - not because of the relative ability of the teams/squads which a fairly well matched but because Cushendall have got the upper hand mentally over the last couple of years which will be at least as important as anything on the day.

You have to remember that an unfancied Loughgiel U21 team took Cushendall right to the wire this year (stole it at the death in fact).  This was a very strong Cushendall team full of "young stars" that will be playing on Sunday.   The young Loughgiel players would have the mental edge there and in all fairness have held their own at Senior level to date.

The mental edge thing would be fine if things remained relatively unchanged but a Cushendall team going in to a Championship Final with out the services of 2 of arguably their top 3/4 players over the past number of years is certainly not going to give them any more "mental strength" - it does however ease the pressure a bit.

If Cushendall win it will be seen as the young boys coming through well and they delivered but if they lose - sure we were missing Arron & Shane, it will take the young boys time to gain experience senior level, Neil wasn't back that long.

The pressure is fully on the Shamrocks to deliver, full panel to choose from, I was quoted by someone it is the best panel in Ulster - some are already looking forward to another All-Ireland campaign, therefore there should be no excuses winning Antrim against a depleted Cushendall side.

Anything but a Shamrocks win for everyone in Loughgiel will be total devastation. 

Playing things down SIE isn't going to excuse these facts.

Rubbish .......Shane McNaughton  (All Ireland final aside) has been poor the past few seasons. Loughiel have as many young talented hurlers as Cushendal. Damon, Cathal, Maol, Wee Betty, James. How have they the mental edge if they lost?

Shane McNaughton has been a thorn in the side to Loughgiel over the years, it would be fair enough to say his form has been patchy but as they say and as you have highlighted you are only as good as your last game!

Of course Loughgiel have as many talented hurlers as Cushendall, very good point.

So much talent and strength in depth that out of the five you have named, Loughgiel will have the luxury of only starting 2 out of the 5 based on the semi-final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
We get it Hirty ffs  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
We get it Hirty ffs  ::)

Just a bit banter Skull, you know the old craic - if people want to reply or comment on my posts, I only feel it fair to respond! :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2016, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
We get it Hirty ffs  ::)

Just a bit banter Skull, you know the old craic - if people want to reply or comment on my posts, I only feel it fair to respond! :-)

Do you fancy your team or not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2016, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 23, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM
We get it Hirty ffs  ::)

Just a bit banter Skull, you know the old craic - if people want to reply or comment on my posts, I only feel it fair to respond! :-)

Do you fancy your team or not?

I am worried.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Anybody going into a county final will have apprehensions about what way the game might go regardless whether you hold the favorites tag or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
When two teams are close then its down to whoever is putting on the most money (at the bookies) that decides who are the favs for the game... so by that logic the Loughgiel betting public and neutrals who fancy them are waging on them thus making them favs!!!

Phew stop looking at the bookies and trust your own judgement on what they have delivered so far!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 23, 2016, 01:55:57 PM
I see what you did there ... ya crafty hoor ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2016, 03:40:12 PM
Soothsayers and mind readers the lot of ye!!

I said a score. Not a point.  ;)

I've never ruled loughgiel out of anything actually. And I haven't this year either. I've had Cushendall favourites the last couple of years, correctly I might add, and have again this year going on recent championship form. Apart from a few rare occasions there hasnt been much between the teams in finals. Could go either way. A fair enough assessment i believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2016, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2016, 03:40:12 PM
Soothsayers and mind readers the lot of ye!!

I said a score. Not a point.  ;)

I've never ruled loughgiel out of anything actually. And I haven't this year either. I've had Cushendall favourites the last couple of years, correctly I might add, and have again this year going on recent championship form. Apart from a few rare occasions there hasnt been much between the teams in finals. Could go either way. A fair enough assessment i believe.

Im going for a draw then!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2016, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2016, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 23, 2016, 03:40:12 PM
Soothsayers and mind readers the lot of ye!!

I said a score. Not a point.  ;)

I've never ruled loughgiel out of anything actually. And I haven't this year either. I've had Cushendall favourites the last couple of years, correctly I might add, and have again this year going on recent championship form. Apart from a few rare occasions there hasnt been much between the teams in finals. Could go either way. A fair enough assessment i believe.

Im going for a draw then!
Not out of the question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2016, 09:31:21 AM
A draw is a good bet, 15/2.
Or there should only be a point in it, not a score...  ;)
Anyways, the shamrocks are favorites

https://sports.paddypower.mobi/#sport/67/competition/12010/event/11199732

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 04:04:55 PM
I just saw Aaron Griffin walking through Ballymena after buying new boots!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2016, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 04:04:55 PM
I just saw Aaron Griffin walking through Ballymena after buying new boots!
Shane Mc Naughton with him no doubt!!  :o   best of luck to the hurlers and management team tomorrow.   the better team will win. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 05:58:09 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 24, 2016, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 24, 2016, 04:04:55 PM
I just saw Aaron Griffin walking through Ballymena after buying new boots!
Shane Mc Naughton with him no doubt!!  :o   best of luck to the hurlers and management team tomorrow.   the better team will win.

Shane was in Maureen's eating a burger. 👍😂

Hoping for a good game, hopefully it dries up a bit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
I'll not be posting until after the game tomorrow so good luck to both teams. Hopefully it'll be a great game with both teams playing their hearts out and both end with 15 on the field. Good luck to the ref and his team. May the best team win.

Up the Shamrocks!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2016, 07:53:05 PM
Good/possible match ups tomorrow....
Duck v AD ......two light, quick, skillful players
Tony McCloskey v Neil McManus ......would be some battle
Ryan McCambridge v Liam Watson ......worth the entrance fee alone
Eddie McCloskey v Paddy Burke .......speed against class

Who would you like to see lining out against each other?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 24, 2016, 08:15:04 PM
Looking forward to two good matches tomorrow. Rossa to surprise Dunloy by three points and Loughgiel to edge Cushendall by two. Hopefully the rain stays off and we get a big crowd and two cracking games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 24, 2016, 09:35:14 PM
Predictions are correct. If Loughgiel turn up tomorrow we'll hand over the cup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 10:50:44 AM
In a fifty fifty game (in my view) I've went with Cushendall, both teams haven't really needed to expand themselves leading up to this game, so it will be on the day, who wants it the most and that wee bitta luck or run of the green that can turn it!!

Defensively both are good and while Loughgiel aren't as free flowing up front like before they certainly can still find the scores handier than most, Cushendall the same, it's who finds the net that will win it... So far the weather seems fine if not blustery (x20 in Ballycastle)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
There were no scores in the 2nd half of the Down County Hurling Final .... incredible statistic. Hopefully won't happen today!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 25, 2016, 12:20:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
There were no scores in the 2nd half of the Down County Hurling Final .... incredible statistic. Hopefully won't happen today!

Driving wind and rain on the top pitch in Portaferry ruined whatever hurling was in the game. you wouldn't put cattle out in it.

Hopefully Ballycastle won't be as bad, but it's pretty exposed as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 25, 2016, 01:05:45 PM
Windy and raining in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 03:54:52 PM
Cushendall have it all to do in the second half! Playing second fiddle to Loughgiel ...  1-8 to 1-5 wind advantage for Loughgiel second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 25, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Congratulations Loughgiel on a well deserved victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
One thing i learned today, iPhones don't like water!

Cushendall poor I thought yet still only lost by 3. James Campbell lucky not to see red for hitting McManus, Paddy Magill also could of saw red. Christy did well when introduced but Young Coyle or Donal McKinley were MOTM.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
One thing i learned today, iPhones don't like water!

Cushendall poor I thought yet still only lost by 3. James Campbell lucky not to see red for hitting McManus, Paddy Magill also could of saw red. Christy did well when introduced but Young Coyle or Donal McKinley were MOTM.

The referee had a great game and it flowed as a result. The wild slap on the head James Campbell got in the first ten minutes could well have been a red. The slap on Liam Watson's ankle also arguably a straight red. Overall he let the game go and I think hurling fans benefitted today. Loughgiel scored a point today with 16 players on the field .......I'd assume that can't be punished if the ref missed it. Johnny noticed afterwards and sprinted across to tell James he was off. I enjoyed the game. Cushendal were poor up front.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.

Other referees in the county would have been blowing up persistently today. Owen let the game flow. I think he officiated really well!! Think Liam used the few possessions he got really well. Can't be sure but think he got 3 from play???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 07:29:52 PM
Good game considering the conditions
Both teams very committed in the tackle
LG  fully deserved. They play as a unit and are very efficient with the ball
Yes Campbell should have walked for striking
him still on the feild After being  subbed was a genuine mistake and if LG won by a point it woukd be worth some discussion
Well done Loughgeil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 07:29:52 PM
Good game considering the conditions
Both teams very committed in the tackle
LG  fully deserved. They play as a unit and are very efficient with the ball
Yes Campbell should have walked for striking
him still on the feild After being  subbed was a genuine mistake and if LG won by a point it woukd be worth some discussion
Well done Loughgeil

Yeah spot on .....it had no bearing on the result but like you said imagine they'd have won by a point? Dal were poor up front. Think it was a bit insulting to boys who trained and played all year that McManus started. Don't like that side of sport!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Funny enough the Cushendall people around me all questioned McManus starting also Natty coming on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Funny enough the Cushendall people around me all questioned McManus starting also Natty coming on.

Good on them. What's right is right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.

Other referees in the county would have been blowing up persistently today. Owen let the game flow. I think he officiated really well!! Think Liam used the few possessions he got really well. Can't be sure but think he got 3 from play???

I thought he got at least 3. Lost count though. He set up a few with some clever passes when bottled up too.

I don't really like being critical of refs. He let it flow but sometimes a bit much but like was said no bearing on the game. Best team won.

Chb for cushendall was very good. Was it mcafee that went off at half time? Was he injured?

Dunloy a good bit better in the minors. They have some speed in that team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 25, 2016, 08:12:17 PM
Cannot blame the player for that. Loughgiel just better all over the pitch, yes some of the tackling crossed the line but it was a championship final and none of it was in the thuggish category.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 08:15:38 PM
Cushendall were disjointed throughout the game couldn't really strong a decent passage of play the whole game!! Big players didn't perform on the day and handling was poor for both teams but more so for Cushendall !!

Cushendall missed a lot of scores and I'd question their fitness too, a few lads definitely could do with losing a few pounds, all the skill in the world but carry extra weight will tell at that level

The refereeing was dead on, both teams were committed in the tackle and conditions were poor so that was brought into Owen's thinking, plus this is the final, hell for leather and all that , didn't seem to be much complaining from the players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 08:30:28 PM
I would agree about fitness levels. Loughgiel looked a lot fitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.

Other referees in the county would have been blowing up persistently today. Owen let the game flow. I think he officiated really well!! Think Liam used the few possessions he got really well. Can't be sure but think he got 3 from play???

I thought he got at least 3. Lost count though. He set up a few with some clever passes when bottled up too.

I don't really like being critical of refs. He let it flow but sometimes a bit much but like was said no bearing on the game. Best team won.

Chb for cushendall was very good. Was it mcafee that went off at half time? Was he injured?

Dunloy a good bit better in the minors. They have some speed in that team.

Chb was Paddy Burke ......real good player. Sean McAfee was lucky he wasn't sent off ....possibly that was why he was taken off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Funny enough the Cushendall people around me all questioned McManus starting also Natty coming on.

in fairness and right or wrong Mc Manus was the dalls most influential forward ( sorry to be critical but this wouldn't have been hard ) so i could see some justification for starting him. Ruthless from the management yes but correct in the cold light of day

If one other forward would have clicked ( McGill did well but drifted out to help and leave space inside ) they could have won it

very toothless up front but maybe LGs defense must take some credit for this as well

MR2 is right in regard to the physical appearance of some of there players

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows

sorry dude but me and you a crossing swords again here> a deliberate bat to the face is straight red but hey your the one with the rule book
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 09:07:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.

Other referees in the county would have been blowing up persistently today. Owen let the game flow. I think he officiated really well!! Think Liam used the few possessions he got really well. Can't be sure but think he got 3 from play???

I thought he got at least 3. Lost count though. He set up a few with some clever passes when bottled up too.

I don't really like being critical of refs. He let it flow but sometimes a bit much but like was said no bearing on the game. Best team won.

Chb for cushendall was very good. Was it mcafee that went off at half time? Was he injured?

Dunloy a good bit better in the minors. They have some speed in that team.

Chb was Paddy Burke ......real good player. Sean McAfee was lucky he wasn't sent off ....possibly that was why he was taken off.

I wasn't sure which burke. Worth a shot with the county if he goes.

Mcafee can be very good but seems a bit hot headed too. Young though so will learn hopefully.

That burke and tiernan coyle(s) definitely look like county material.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 09:07:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 07:23:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 07:19:36 PM
I wouldn't have said the ref had a great game at all.

Loughgiel really were a good bit better and probably could have won by more. Their teamwork is excellent. They look a very well coached outfit and are strong everywhere.

Watson, whatever is said about him, is a class act.

Other referees in the county would have been blowing up persistently today. Owen let the game flow. I think he officiated really well!! Think Liam used the few possessions he got really well. Can't be sure but think he got 3 from play???

I thought he got at least 3. Lost count though. He set up a few with some clever passes when bottled up too.

I don't really like being critical of refs. He let it flow but sometimes a bit much but like was said no bearing on the game. Best team won.

Chb for cushendall was very good. Was it mcafee that went off at half time? Was he injured?

Dunloy a good bit better in the minors. They have some speed in that team.

Chb was Paddy Burke ......real good player. Sean McAfee was lucky he wasn't sent off ....possibly that was why he was taken off.

I wasn't sure which burke. Worth a shot with the county if he goes.

Mcafee can be very good but seems a bit hot headed too. Young though so will learn hopefully.

That burke and tiernan coyle(s) definitely look like county material.

Tiernan Coyle has been performing like that most of the season. I think he was MOTM today. Paddy Burke has represented the county!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
ok unfortunately i would say i'm not alone in that i pay more attention to club than county scene these days so missed burke on the county team or forgot he'd played!


Yeah coyle was that good against ballycastle too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 25, 2016, 09:19:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
ok unfortunately i would say i'm not alone in that i pay more attention to club than county scene these days so missed burke on the county team or forgot he'd played!

Played CHB for county U21's
Yeah coyle was that good against ballycastle too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 25, 2016, 09:25:04 PM
Very strange in the last few minutes Cushendall opting for points from frees rather than going for goal. Loughgiel were obviously a fitter outfit out first to near every ball, hasn't been mentioned yet but Ryan mccambridge I thought was excellent today, Eddie as dangerous as ever for Loughgiel, the right team won at the end of it which sometimes doesn't happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows

sorry dude but me and you a crossing swords again here> a deliberate bat to the face is straight red but hey your the one with the rule book

From where I was standing I didn't see it so couldn't say it was deliberate and Owen wouldn't shrink from making a call on a red card either ...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows

sorry dude but me and you a crossing swords again here> a deliberate bat to the face is straight red but hey your the one with the rule book

From where I was standing I didn't see it so couldn't say it was deliberate and Owen wouldn't shrink from making a call on a red card either ...

It was right infront of me and I can say and I'll argue my point, it was a straight red card. Deliberate striking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows

sorry dude but me and you a crossing swords again here> a deliberate bat to the face is straight red but hey your the one with the rule book

From where I was standing I didn't see it so couldn't say it was deliberate and Owen wouldn't shrink from making a call on a red card either ...

It was right infront of me and I can say and I'll argue my point, it was a straight red card. Deliberate striking.

That's fair enough but with 3 of the best referees on the pitch it seems strange that none of them seen a straight red!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 25, 2016, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2016, 09:02:16 PM
There were no real definite red cards in my opinion, he strike on Winker was late that was it, Winker pushed it on player struck and missed!! The rest were easy yellows

sorry dude but me and you a crossing swords again here> a deliberate bat to the face is straight red but hey your the one with the rule book

From where I was standing I didn't see it so couldn't say it was deliberate and Owen wouldn't shrink from making a call on a red card either ...

It was right infront of me and I can say and I'll argue my point, it was a straight red card. Deliberate striking.

That's fair enough but with 3 of the best referees on the pitch it seems strange that none of them seen a straight red!

Very strange indeed..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 25, 2016, 11:30:29 PM
Ok here's the way I seen it
Whacked him right on the face on purpose
MC manus had the ball at the time
He ended up on the ground and MC manus I think tramped his foot on him in reaction
Ref didn't see it but it happened right in front of skinny
He got a debrief and I assume skinny seen the whole thing
Problem for Eoin now if he sends of Campbell for striking then MC manus has to walk to for tramping
So he delt with it as best he could and had a good game by his standards
I maybe have this all wrong Barr the initial strike
Let's not dwell on this as on balance it was a hard hitting game that was let flow
With no other unsavoury stuff
And LG where worthy  winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2016, 08:46:21 AM
didnt stay for the second half as i got soaked and was too cold to stand any longer. What i seen in the first half i would of been shocked had loughgiel lost the game. Cdall got an early goal but aside from that they didn't threaten the Lgiel back line at all. They lost all the breaking ball and their own backs were under constant pressure. Didnt understand Neil McManus starting at all, he was totally off the pace.

Was happy to see the minors win the championship again for the second year. We coped well with the strong win in the first half despite conceding 2 sloppy goals. Second half we limited them to 1 point and took some well worked scores. very happy for this bunch of players as they have remained unbeaten this year, like our U16 hurlers.

Ballycastle did a great job organising the final this year, top marks for them. Its a real pity theres no where in antrim with a stand or shelter for days like Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2016, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2016, 08:46:21 AM
didnt stay for the second half as i got soaked and was too cold to stand any longer. What i seen in the first half i would of been shocked had loughgiel lost the game. Cdall got an early goal but aside from that they didn't threaten the Lgiel back line at all. They lost all the breaking ball and their own backs were under constant pressure. Didnt understand Neil McManus starting at all, he was totally off the pace.

Was happy to see the minors win the championship again for the second year. We coped well with the strong win in the first half despite conceding 2 sloppy goals. Second half we limited them to 1 point and took some well worked scores. very happy for this bunch of players as they have remained unbeaten this year, like our U16 hurlers.

Ballycastle did a great job organising the final this year, top marks for them. Its a real pity theres no where in antrim with a stand or shelter for days like Sunday.

Ha two soakings in two days then DR?  Bad weekend conditions wise - I actually thought after forgetting the umbrella and getting soaked Saturday that I had all bases covered Sunday yet still came home drenched the way it was blowing.  Ah well thems the breaks lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
ah dont talk, got wet at the tail end of the camogie in randalstown then onto Creggan for the football and got utterly drowned. Not a lot you can do about it sadly in antrim as theres no where with sheltered cover at all.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
Brilliant performance from our lads yesterday.  I was confident they would get the job done but there were a few tense moments towards the end as Cushendall looked to get a goal. What a great bunch of lads!

Looking forward to the match v Ballygalget in 2 weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2016, 10:15:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2016, 08:46:21 AM
didnt stay for the second half as i got soaked and was too cold to stand any longer. What i seen in the first half i would of been shocked had loughgiel lost the game. Cdall got an early goal but aside from that they didn't threaten the Lgiel back line at all. They lost all the breaking ball and their own backs were under constant pressure. Didnt understand Neil McManus starting at all, he was totally off the pace.

Was happy to see the minors win the championship again for the second year. We coped well with the strong win in the first half despite conceding 2 sloppy goals. Second half we limited them to 1 point and took some well worked scores. very happy for this bunch of players as they have remained unbeaten this year, like our U16 hurlers.

Ballycastle did a great job organising the final this year, top marks for them. Its a real pity theres no where in antrim with a stand or shelter for days like Sunday.

Yeah I'd agree with that he didn't even look fit. I'm sure there are a few lads in Cushendall disappointed he got the nod in front of them after being parachuted in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 26, 2016, 10:27:22 AM
I slagged Owen Elliot off last week on here and now I'm going to praise him for his performance yesterday. Exactly what club hurling in Antrim needs, let the game flow and keep the whistle in the pocket as much as possible. He would normally have blown 20+ frees yesterday in the first half and ruined the game as a spectacle. He must have decided to change his strategy for this one. Saying that there was no real badness in the game and you can afford to let the games like that go.

Agree with earlier comments regarding cushendalls fitness. Too many of them carrying too much lead, not really acceptable at this level, and will always catch you out when you come up against a fit team like Lgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on September 26, 2016, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
ah dont talk, got wet at the tail end of the camogie in randalstown then onto Creggan for the football and got utterly drowned. Not a lot you can do about it sadly in antrim as theres no where with sheltered cover at all.

Right never realised youse were playing Camogie in Randalstown earlier - that would explain folk arriving constantly during the first half of the Intermediate football final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2016, 11:33:17 AM
JC I hear it was some second half in the down final ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: Hectic on September 26, 2016, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
ah dont talk, got wet at the tail end of the camogie in randalstown then onto Creggan for the football and got utterly drowned. Not a lot you can do about it sadly in antrim as theres no where with sheltered cover at all.

Right never realised youse were playing Camogie in Randalstown earlier - that would explain folk arriving constantly during the first half of the Intermediate football final.

Aye if they had any sense our game should of been on first so we could of made it on time. everyone left after the camogie and then onto randalstown. big tail back through the town to get to the ground so everyone was late.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 26, 2016, 11:42:49 AM
well done Loughgiel, better team on the day won

we will be very disappointed in our first half performance which IMHO is where we lost it, IMO we where slightly the better team in the second half, just didnt get the scores when needed. We also gave loughgiel 3/4 very easy scores from very poor mistakes.

Neill was obviously not a full pelt but was still our best forward and won alot of ball in the second half. there was no issue with him starting with anyone i was talking to or the players.

Loughgiel should beat Ballygalget easy but would need to play alot better to beat Slaughtneil.

Hopefully our boys get a good rest now and with Neill, Graffin and shane back next year give it another good shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 26, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2016, 11:33:17 AM
JC I hear it was some second half in the down final ;D

In hindsight, the first half was a scorefest  ;D  ;D

Awful conditions with both teams deploying sweepers and what not! We went in with a 6-2 lead and the general feeling was that 4 points wasn't enough with the Gale and driving rain, but IMO our defence had Ballycran well sown up irrespective of the wind. How wrong we were!

To give you an idea of the wind, Big Magic took a free in the second half less than 50 metres out, reasonably central and it dropped short and the big man can fairly smack a ball. Graham's puck out's weren't getting 60 metres and a few blew straight over the sideline.

Absolute farce of a game, but we'll take the win and wait on our reckoning with the all conquering Loughgeil in the semi final at a central location  8)




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2016, 12:12:24 PM
You'll miss the neutral venue of casement really jc  ;)

Yeah it is not often you hear of a hurling match being scoreless for a half so must have been bad. the worst weather in the antrim final as at half time when it really wasn't good. Loughgiel ran out for the second half and ran right back in again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 26, 2016, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2016, 12:12:24 PM
You'll miss the neutral venue of casement really jc  ;)

Yeah it is not often you hear of a hurling match being scoreless for a half so must have been bad. the worst weather in the antrim final as at half time when it really wasn't good. Loughgiel ran out for the second half and ran right back in again!

Back in the day when Casement wasn't available we'd make do with Corrigan.

I'd say its Owenbeg or Armagh depending on availability!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
Congratulations to the Loughgiel players and management staff. Both sets of players played out of their skin. I think we did enough to win it without any qualms.  At the start of the second half the Cushendall backs started getting the upper hand but their forwards didn't take advantage of chances created. A couple of mistakes, the short puck out straight to Maol being one, gave us back the momentum. Eddie's run and point was total class also. Tc, Duck, Eddie, Tony, Winker, Shay all could have got motm without much argument. Special mention to young Damon McMulan and Maol Connolly who were both excellent also.

I thought Owen did a good job in what was never going to be an easy game to ref and was fair enough to both teams. It was good to see the game being let go rather than blew up every 30 seconds. I'm just about feeling human again.  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2016, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
Congratulations to the Loughgiel players and management staff. Both sets of players played out of their skin. I think we did enough to win it without any qualms.  At the start of the second half the Cushendall backs started getting the upper hand but their forwards didn't take advantage of chances created. A couple of mistakes, the short puck out straight to Maol being one, gave us back the momentum. Eddie's run and point was total class also. Tc, Duck, Eddie, Tony, Winker, Shay all could have got motm without much argument. Special mention to young Damon McMulan and Maol Connolly who were both excellent also.

I thought Owen did a good job in what was never going to be an easy game to ref and was fair enough to both teams. It was good to see the game being let go rather than blew up every 30 seconds. I'm just about feeling human again.  ???

I'd have given MOTM to Donal McKinley closely followed by Shay Casey or Tiernan Coyle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2016, 10:32:22 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 26, 2016, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 26, 2016, 09:56:44 PM
Congratulations to the Loughgiel players and management staff. Both sets of players played out of their skin. I think we did enough to win it without any qualms.  At the start of the second half the Cushendall backs started getting the upper hand but their forwards didn't take advantage of chances created. A couple of mistakes, the short puck out straight to Maol being one, gave us back the momentum. Eddie's run and point was total class also. Tc, Duck, Eddie, Tony, Winker, Shay all could have got motm without much argument. Special mention to young Damon McMulan and Maol Connolly who were both excellent also.

I thought Owen did a good job in what was never going to be an easy game to ref and was fair enough to both teams. It was good to see the game being let go rather than blew up every 30 seconds. I'm just about feeling human again.  ???

I'd have given MOTM to Donal McKinley closely followed by Shay Casey or Tiernan Coyle.
aye. He played well too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 27, 2016, 10:26:26 AM
Any idea of an attendance figure? I'd reckon that was one of the largest attendances at county final in the post Casement era.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
Couldn't get to the final but skipped through both games on a kindly supplied DVD so can post now!

Dunloy were clearly the better side in the minor game and the result never looked in doubt.

Cushendall got a dream start with their goal - but then hit a wall. Loughgiel pegged them back with well worked points then hit a purple patch before half time with the goal and gave themselves a buffer. One which Cushendall could never get back. A deserved win for the shamrocks who seemed to move better throughout.

Hard to tell through the DVD but does that seem fair?

Slightly different point - more than one person commented that conditions and being exposed to them - throwing in umbrellas hindering viewing - all makes us realise how much we need a genuine county ground to host these games. I hope Casement is agreed and isn't far off we have waited much too long already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 12:06:36 PM
I'd rather watch a county final getting a soaking and struggling to see past a sea of golf umbrellas than sit in relative comfort in an near as damned it empty stadium
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2016, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 12:06:36 PM
I'd rather watch a county final getting a soaking and struggling to see past a sea of golf umbrellas than sit in relative comfort in an near as damned it empty stadium

You'd be on your own in that one. Tell that to my 6 year old daughter who got 2 soakings at the weekend despite the fact we had brollies etc.

It's an embarrassment in this day and age that we have to play county finals in places like Ballycastle and that's no slight on the the McQuillians club as they are a credit.

We need a county ground with a covered stand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 12:06:36 PM
I'd rather watch a county final getting a soaking and struggling to see past a sea of golf umbrellas than sit in relative comfort in an near as damned it empty stadium

Would you have preferred that game in ballycastle than in the old Casement?

Can you see that others - particularly young or older people - certainly would not?
Before a couple of people told me their views on the game their first comment was about someone sliding down a hill as people laughed, getting so drenched they couldn't enjoy the match, and not seeing long spells because they could see past umbrellas.

Yet you think Ballycastle is a better venue than the old, or a new Casement?

I for one find it just more evidence that we need a proper county ground - and I find it very curious that there's a need to actually state something so obvious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
I'm not arguing that we don't need a county ground with better facilities (i.e a covered stand). I'm saying, as bad as it was (and it was that bad), I would rather get drowned as sit in a stadium that has not been designed to suit the needs of Antrim and its support base. A redesigned Casement will be built for Ulster football championship matches. I believe the atmosphere will be terrible for games involving Antrim teams because we lack the supporters to fill it to any decent level. We need a 10-15K sized ground for Antrims needs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 01:12:59 PM
I would say a lot of people would disagree with the last two posts. I personally would much rather have the county final in the likes of ballycastle than in a half empty stadium.

The atmosphere for county finals outside of casement has significantly surpassed anything in casement that I can ever remember and i have been to quite a few.

It's an embarrassment we don't have a county ground yes and it is a pain getting that big a soaking at these games but not up to clubs to provide a stand. Old casement would have been great if it were filled but it never was for a club game. (or an antrim hurling game)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 27, 2016, 01:18:51 PM
It's been said to death on here but an Owenbeg type development in a central location is exactly what we need.

Does anyone know approximate cost to construct Owenbeg?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 01:59:46 PM
It hasn't been said to death at the right level though has though has it ... thats the problem

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
So you guys would prefer that game to have been at ballycastle on Sunday - than at the old Casement?

I would suggest the players wouldn't, and the majority of supporters wouldn't.
The atmosphere at Casement on county final days was excellent.
The facilities for supporters were light years ahead of club grounds like sunday.
I don't any players that didn't love hurling in Casement.

If ye can't see it for yourselves - open you mind and think of the hundreds of people soaked (some had to leave early) and young & old who paid £10 to not to see long spells of the game.
Does every other county with a proper ground leave it sitting and have their county finals at smaller pitches for supposed better atmosphere? No chance.

Sorry guys - ya's are full of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
So you guys would prefer that game to have been at ballycastle on Sunday - than at the old Casement?

I would suggest the players wouldn't, and the majority of supporters wouldn't.
The atmosphere at Casement on county final days was excellent.
The facilities for supporters were light years ahead of club grounds like sunday.
I don't any players that didn't love hurling in Casement.

If ye can't see it for yourselves - open you mind and think of the hundreds of people soaked (some had to leave early) and young & old who paid £10 to not to see long spells of the game.
Does every other county with a proper ground leave it sitting and have their county finals at smaller pitches for supposed better atmosphere? No chance.

Sorry guys - ya's are full of it.

Yes good argument we're full of it. All the players would rather play there. Can you tell me how many players you surveyed?

The atmosphere for the last 2 county finals has been significantly better than most, if not any, I can recall in casement. When it was not full, which was pretty much every game in it, then the stand was too far from the pitch so it didn't generate an atmosphere like you would get with players close to the pitch. Also you only ever got one side full.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
So you guys would prefer that game to have been at ballycastle on Sunday - than at the old Casement?

I would suggest the players wouldn't, and the majority of supporters wouldn't.
The atmosphere at Casement on county final days was excellent.
The facilities for supporters were light years ahead of club grounds like sunday.
I don't any players that didn't love hurling in Casement.

If ye can't see it for yourselves - open you mind and think of the hundreds of people soaked (some had to leave early) and young & old who paid £10 to not to see long spells of the game.
Does every other county with a proper ground leave it sitting and have their county finals at smaller pitches for supposed better atmosphere? No chance.

Sorry guys - ya's are full of it.

Yes good argument we're full of it. All the players would rather play there. Can you tell me how many players you surveyed?

The atmosphere for the last 2 county finals has been significantly better than most, if not any, I can recall in casement. When it was not full, which was pretty much every game in it, then the stand was too far from the pitch so it didn't generate an atmosphere like you would get with players close to the pitch. Also you only ever got one side full.

Best pitch I ever played on and we definitely generated a lot of atmosphere during club finals, i think most people are getting mixed up with county finals rather that the county team playing there and that was hugely different, but who's to blame for that?

Us as supporters unfortunately are at fault as I've been to many a county championship game at Casement when other teams are there and its been a great atmosphere... So if we are looking to see why that is then ask yourself or your clubsmates why the didn't bother going to support their team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 02:59:10 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
1. So you guys would prefer that game to have been at ballycastle on Sunday - than at the old Casement?

2. I would suggest the players wouldn't, and the majority of supporters wouldn't.
3. The atmosphere at Casement on county final days was excellent.
4. The facilities for supporters were light years ahead of club grounds like sunday.
5. I don't any players that didn't love hurling in Casement.

If ye can't see it for yourselves - open you mind and think of the hundreds of people soaked (some had to leave early) and young & old who paid £10 to not to see long spells of the game.
Does every other county with a proper ground leave it sitting and have their county finals at smaller pitches for supposed better atmosphere? No chance.

Sorry guys - ya's are full of it.

1. No... The old Casement would have been better a better venue insofar as there is much more space for umbrella users to spread out. 70% of the crowd on Sunday would still have got wet.
2. I have no clue where you get that from. Yes Casement was a great surface... but it always lacked atmosphere compared to club grounds. I prefer well attended club grounds to Casement for this reason.
3. When spectators are hanging over the wire supporting their team/baying for blood etc etc, its always better. Casement pitch was always too far away from the spectators
4. No surprise there
5. Anyone who played in Casement, was involved in a game worth playing in, so it always is going to be enjoyable, especially when it was always in good order.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 02:19:42 PM
So you guys would prefer that game to have been at ballycastle on Sunday - than at the old Casement?

I would suggest the players wouldn't, and the majority of supporters wouldn't.
The atmosphere at Casement on county final days was excellent.
The facilities for supporters were light years ahead of club grounds like sunday.
I don't any players that didn't love hurling in Casement.

If ye can't see it for yourselves - open you mind and think of the hundreds of people soaked (some had to leave early) and young & old who paid £10 to not to see long spells of the game.
Does every other county with a proper ground leave it sitting and have their county finals at smaller pitches for supposed better atmosphere? No chance.

Sorry guys - ya's are full of it.

Yes good argument we're full of it. All the players would rather play there. Can you tell me how many players you surveyed?

I did make an argument - then said ya's were full of it - but you ignored those points (for obvious reasons)
And I said all players I know loved playing in Casement - I didn't say I surveyed all the players from Sunday.


The atmosphere for the last 2 county finals has been significantly better than most, if not any, I can recall in casement. When it was not full, which was pretty much every game in it, then the stand was too far from the pitch so it didn't generate an atmosphere like you would get with players close to the pitch. Also you only ever got one side full.

The atmosphere is debateable - the rest of my points are not.
A covered stand? No, we'll stand here and get soaked.
Wanna see the game? No I am just here doing an umbrella survey.
Take these steps? No thanks I will slide down a grass hill on my arse

You boys want to head over and tell the other 31 counties they should ditch their county ground and head of to some club pitch for better atmosphere? It seems everyone else in Ireland is doing things wrongly!.

One other point - funny not so long ago I was defending other grounds as being fit for semi finals! Irony!
My point remains - the old casement or a new (properly sized) county ground would be preferable to them all!
To suggest otherwise is just bonkers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 03:00:33 PM

My point remains - the old casement or a new (properly sized)county ground would be preferable to them all!
To suggest otherwise is just bonkers.
Your point?  ::)

Its not bonkers to suggest that a properly sized county ground is needed rather than a redeveloped Ulster Football Final sized Casement. That's what we've been saying ya eejit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2016, 03:22:24 PM
Got soaked to the skin on sat in creggan at the intermediate football final, as did everyone else. Same on Sunday for both matches. I did have a brolly but it didnt matter, the rain was coming down sideways. From chatting to people around me on Sunday and sat all everyone wanted was a ground with cover whether it be ballycastle, Corrigan etc etc.

I agree with Skull here, we need a decent sized ground that is relevant to the attendances that our games generate. Casement park for county final day was great to go to and watch a game at but it had a poor atmosphere. I found this years and last years finals as a neutral great to watch for the atmosphere that was created by the large crowds.

casement park is so far off the thoughts of most our Gaels at the moment it never gets mentioned. Its at the point now where people are losing interest in it, which is sad to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 03:54:32 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 27, 2016, 04:11:42 PM
Old Casement - No Atmosphere
New Casement - Too big and still no atmosphere
Club ground - Great atmosphere but open to elements

Its simple. If you want to stay cosy but not get the atmosphere lets have county finals in the new casement monstrosity.
If you want atmosphere and don't mind a soaking, lets go to Ballycastle for county finals.

Personally I'd rather have the atmosphere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 27, 2016, 04:38:29 PM
The rain was running down my back into the nether regions and i was soaked through, It mattered not a jot to be honest. I actually thought the atmosphere was more subdued than normal. Perhaps the elements played their part in that. Whatever the answer is it needs to be sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 27, 2016, 05:16:22 PM
in my playing days ( many moons ago) everyone wanted to play in Casement. If one man and his dog came to watch it was a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 03:00:33 PM

My point remains - the old casement or a new (properly sized)county ground would be preferable to them all!
To suggest otherwise is just bonkers.
Your point?  ::)

Its not bonkers to suggest that a properly sized county ground is needed rather than a redeveloped Ulster Football Final sized Casement. That's what we've been saying ya eejit

Oh dear skull.
My point is the old casement is preferable to current club ground for county finals.
Leading on from that the new casement will also be - especially if it's reasonably sized.
And also that current club grounds are not good enough for 31 other counties -  and Not for our finals either.
Simple.
But continue your love fest with that atmosphere you talk of and ignore everything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 05:50:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 05:26:38 PM
My point is the old casement is preferable to current club ground for county finals.
Leading on from that the new casement will also be

logical fallacy.

There is zero guarantee if it is not sized to suit OUR needs.....and I'd bet OUR needs have nothing to do with it. Others have said the same so stop thinking I'm the only one saying it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 27, 2016, 05:50:20 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 05:26:38 PM
My point is the old casement is preferable to current club ground for county finals.
Leading on from that the new casement will also be

logical fallacy.

There is zero guarantee if it is not sized to suit OUR needs.....and I'd bet OUR needs have nothing to do with it. Others have said the same so stop thinking I'm the only one saying it

Including myself.
You are making assumptions about the size - and indeed atmosphere - of a stadium not yet a reality.
But it's a safe assumption the new stadium will have better shelter, viewing, and facilities.
A new casement or ballycastle? It's not even worthy of debate.
Like I said - we hold our county finals in the least equipped ground of any of the 32 counties. Fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
So can you show us pictures or give us details of all these other 31 grounds? Since it is a fact.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 27, 2016, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
So can you show us pictures or give us details of all these other 31 grounds? Since it is a fact.

Well you can do your own googling and I'm not posting 31 pictures here.
But to keep it simple every single county in Ireland was given infrastructure grants from central council to provide for full facilities for supporters and floodlighting. The advent of the "control tower" for each stadium coincided with this. Most noticeably - all 31 have a covered stand. So put simply do you know of any county ground of lesser standard than ballycastle. Clue: there isn't one.

NB: I should point I think ballycastle is an outstanding club ground!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
Dunsilly has to be the place for a new county ground
1 we already own the land and have pitches made
2 it is in a central location
3 it has excellent road structure and easy to find
4 the first pitch has a slope along one side where you could build a stand and concrete terrace the other side
There is a issue about safety exits but if you look at a satellite view you can see they only need to buy a small piece of land at the corner and they will have access onto the main road I don't think we need anything bigger than 7000 capacity and let the Ulster council build casement if they want to but we will only use it when we need to
I'm not sure what the total capacity is at own-beg but the stand is 2000 so the total can't be anymore than 7000 and that would be more than big enough for Antrim !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 28, 2016, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
Dunsilly has to be the place for a new county ground
1 we already own the land and have pitches made
2 it is in a central location
3 it has excellent road structure and easy to find
4 the first pitch has a slope along one side where you could build a stand and concrete terrace the other side
There is a issue about safety exits but if you look at a satellite view you can see they only need to buy a small piece of land at the corner and they will have access onto the main road I don't think we need anything bigger than 7000 capacity and let the Ulster council build casement if they want to but we will only use it when we need to
I'm not sure what the total capacity is at own-beg but the stand is 2000 so the total can't be anymore than 7000 and that would be more than big enough for Antrim !

I like the way your thinking and rather than saying no it can't be done I think the county board should investigate how they could potentially make Dunsilly into a suitable county ground for say crowds of 5-7K.

If they come back and say its not financially possible etc etc then that's ok. I think we should explore every option and don't dismiss any ideas without researching first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 28, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: Usain on September 28, 2016, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
Dunsilly has to be the place for a new county ground
1 we already own the land and have pitches made
2 it is in a central location
3 it has excellent road structure and easy to find
4 the first pitch has a slope along one side where you could build a stand and concrete terrace the other side
There is a issue about safety exits but if you look at a satellite view you can see they only need to buy a small piece of land at the corner and they will have access onto the main road I don't think we need anything bigger than 7000 capacity and let the Ulster council build casement if they want to but we will only use it when we need to
I'm not sure what the total capacity is at own-beg but the stand is 2000 so the total can't be anymore than 7000 and that would be more than big enough for Antrim !

I like the way your thinking and rather than saying no it can't be done I think the county board should investigate how they could potentially make Dunsilly into a suitable county ground for say crowds of 5-7K.

If they come back and say its not financially possible etc etc then that's ok. I think we should explore every option and don't dismiss any ideas without researching first.

Totally understand and agree with Dunsilly sentiments.

But I think the reality is that extended the facility is not possible in terms of planning or finance.
It's just not feasible.
From what I can gather it's a case of celebrating what we're getting and fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2016, 10:28:31 AM
where theres a will, desire and drive to do something then theres no reason it cant be achieved.

People said we were mad to build an academy, i was told it couldn't be done from people i know in other clubs and that it would bankrupt us, we would never see it being done. It didnt and we did build it. belief, desire and drive to do something great and it worked.

Theres no reason why we as a county should just sit on our hands waiting on casement to be sorted because it could take years to come to completion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 28, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
Is it not an option to develop Ballycastle/ Loughgiel/ Dunloy with covered stands for the likes of the club championships and NHL/NFL matches? Doesn't have to be seated, even a covered terrace would be better than what exists at present.

There are a few clubs in Derry with covered stands. Glenullin, Slaughtneil, Foreglen, Screen, Glen Maghera. With the latter two benefitting (I think) from county board assistance as they were/ are still county grounds when required. Glen also having turnstiles for those matches requiring them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 28, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
thats actually something i was asking on sunday at ballycastle could this not be done and no one was actually sure if it was possible and how it could be done.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 28, 2016, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on September 27, 2016, 11:07:16 PM
Dunsilly has to be the place for a new county ground
1 we already own the land and have pitches made
2 it is in a central location
3 it has excellent road structure and easy to find
4 the first pitch has a slope along one side where you could build a stand and concrete terrace the other side
There is a issue about safety exits but if you look at a satellite view you can see they only need to buy a small piece of land at the corner and they will have access onto the main road I don't think we need anything bigger than 7000 capacity and let the Ulster council build casement if they want to but we will only use it when we need to
I'm not sure what the total capacity is at own-beg but the stand is 2000 so the total can't be anymore than 7000 and that would be more than big enough for Antrim !

Capacity of Owenbeg is around 6-7,000 mark.

Dunsilly is meant to be a county training facility. The fact that there is a single entrance / exit means it wouldn't be able to cater for a large crowd due to health and safety reasons. Plus the parking around Dunsilly wouldn't be great.

I mentioned before that the county own some land at Ballygrooby which could be developed into an Owenbeg type playing facility but financial restraints might put an end to that theory for a considerable time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on September 28, 2016, 12:49:53 PM
I like your attitude DR but as Coaster says I think there's factors with Dunsilly outside of our control.

In terms of developing a club ground - the politics of which ground are an absolute minefield before we start.
The chosen club would have to suit hurling and football fraternities.
There would be continual issues over access between the club who own and the county who invested in it.
And then there's the issue of getting the finance in the first place.

What would be really good would be if there was a place in Belfast which used to be a thriving stadium, and we had been gifted money to develop it into a brand new one. Wow. Wouldn't that really be something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 28, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 28, 2016, 12:49:53 PM
I like your attitude DR but as Coaster says I think there's factors with Dunsilly outside of our control.

In terms of developing a club ground - the politics of which ground are an absolute minefield before we start.
The chosen club would have to suit hurling and football fraternities.
There would be continual issues over access between the club who own and the county who invested in it.
And then there's the issue of getting the finance in the first place.

What would be really could would be if there was a place in Belfast which used to be a thriving stadium, and we had been gifted money to develop it into a brand new one. Wow. Wouldn't that really be something.

Whats the chances of that happening? lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: oakleafgael on September 29, 2016, 10:07:06 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on September 28, 2016, 12:49:53 PM
I like your attitude DR but as Coaster says I think there's factors with Dunsilly outside of our control.

In terms of developing a club ground - the politics of which ground are an absolute minefield before we start.
The chosen club would have to suit hurling and football fraternities.
There would be continual issues over access between the club who own and the county who invested in it.
And then there's the issue of getting the finance in the first place.

What would be really good would be if there was a place in Belfast which used to be a thriving stadium, and we had been gifted money to develop it into a brand new one. Wow. Wouldn't that really be something.

There is nothing stopping any club from developing their own club grounds to make them suitable for hosting 5 or 6 thousand people with proper covered facilities or terracing. Plenty of clubs in other counties have done it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
Lovely idea but the most of the clubs dont have the money to attempt such a thing. I would rather we had a third pitch than a stand if im honest. were going to be starting a 3G playing surface shortly beside the academy and thats more important to our clubs needs rather than a sheltered covering.
Dont get me wrong it would be brilliant to have but long term for every club developing facilities for future generations is higher on the list.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
Shuttle bus to and from the Dunsilly pitch on Sunday 2nd October.

The carpark at Dunsilly will be used for players and officials only and there should be NO parking on the road around Dunsilly.

Buses will run from the old Enkalon car park, it can be accessed from Junction one retail park or from the Randalstown Road entrance to Enkalon industrial estate.


The car park is across from Shrubs and Tubs garden centre.
The buses will be available from 10am in the morning until the games finish.

Unfortunately there will have to be some sort of charge for this.  £1 ahead return for adults and free for U16's.




Clearly Dunsilly isn't fit to hold finals or a volume of cars.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 30, 2016, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
Shuttle bus to and from the Dunsilly pitch on Sunday 2nd October.

The carpark at Dunsilly will be used for players and officials only and there should be NO parking on the road around Dunsilly.

Buses will run from the old Enkalon car park, it can be accessed from Junction one retail park or from the Randalstown Road entrance to Enkalon industrial estate.


The car park is across from Shrubs and Tubs garden centre.
The buses will be available from 10am in the morning until the games finish.

Unfortunately there will have to be some sort of charge for this.  £1 ahead return for adults and free for U16's.




Clearly Dunsilly isn't fit to hold finals or a volume of cars.

Square peg in a round hole .......why even bother having the finals there? Egotistical attempt to show off the facility. Expensive training ground!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2016, 01:39:05 PM
and there in lies the problems with a half arsed job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on September 30, 2016, 03:47:03 PM

Hi folks, just wanted to take the opportunity to publicise a fundraiser that our club has initiated to raise money for a great cause and have plenty of craic with at the same time. The donations raised go to AWARE, Pieta House and a fund for our desperately needed 2nd pitch (we have one pitch for 4 codes at all age levels). All the details for taking part can be seen at the link below to the thread on the main discussion section.

A fair few Antrim lads and ladies have already provided us with a few good yarns.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27361.msg1630871#new

Thanks





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Loughiel v Ballygalget @ Maghera ......handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2016, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Loughiel v Ballygalget @ Maghera ......handy enough.

Is it a double header with Cloughmills?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Loughiel v Ballygalget @ Maghera ......handy enough.

At the Watty Grahams pitch?

No issues with the venue other than the Watty Grahams mightn'd necessarily have the pitch set up for hurling as more often than not at this time of the year football pitches would have longer grass.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 02:54:17 PM
It is a double header but the other game is Ballybofey v Leitrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on October 03, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Loughiel v Ballygalget @ Maghera ......handy enough.

At the Watty Grahams pitch?

No issues with the venue other than the Watty Grahams mightn'd necessarily have the pitch set up for hurling as more often than not at this time of the year football pitches would have longer grass.

Strange venue for it but its a decent pitch and I'm sure it'll be cut a decent length for hurling as the weather has been brave and mild.
Nice and handy for me as well  ;D

Plus its got a stand  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: doodaa on October 03, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 03, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Loughiel v Ballygalget @ Maghera ......handy enough.

At the Watty Grahams pitch?

No issues with the venue other than the Watty Grahams mightn'd necessarily have the pitch set up for hurling as more often than not at this time of the year football pitches would have longer grass.

Strange venue for it but its a decent pitch and I'm sure it'll be cut a decent length for hurling as the weather has been brave and mild.
Nice and handy for me as well  ;D

Plus its got a stand  :-X

I'd say that's the reason it was picked
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
We've all forgotten what them things look like  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
We've all forgotten what them things look like  ;D

Ballycran have one  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 03, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
We've all forgotten what them things look like  ;D

Ballycran have one  ;D

Quick sign it up as the new casement...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 05, 2016, 02:57:10 PM
Pairc Watty looking well.

Think the grass has been cut recently and if the rain stays away the pitch should accommodate both games without any bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 06, 2016, 12:21:10 PM
Sad news to hear of Buddha's passing last night -- RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2016, 02:27:17 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 06, 2016, 12:21:10 PM
Sad news to hear of Buddha's passing last night -- RIP

Yeah very sad, he was a great keeper. RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 06, 2016, 03:12:29 PM
RIP Buddha. Some great memories of him hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 06, 2016, 03:27:21 PM
Indeed, sad news. RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2016, 03:51:31 PM
sad sad news,one of the best, rest in peace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 06, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
Buddha couldn't have been much of an age?
RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 06, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
Early 50's.
Cancer unfortunately. Hadn't been well for a while.

My God he was good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 06, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 06, 2016, 06:24:40 PM
Buddha couldn't have been much of an age?
RIP
52 am told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2016, 07:40:53 PM
Nothing learned today. Was at the Slaughtneil match. They were nothing special but Middletown didn't force them to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 09, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Good win today, some nice moves up front at times.

Slaughtneil to come, tougher test but I fancy our boys to do the business with 6 or 7 points to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 10, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 09, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Good win today, some nice moves up front at times.

Slaughtneil to come, tougher test but I fancy our boys to do the business with 6 or 7 points to spare.

Sadly our lads weren't up to it, this year in Div2 has been detrimental in our development and it showed yesterday.

Last year I'd have suggested Div2 was our level and even though we were top, we'd some tough battles along the way. This year in a lot of the games I saw we'd put up a 10 to 12 point lead and then stop playing or emptied the bench and the truth be told our bench is very weak as when we miss one or two we really do miss them. Danny Toner has been our best forward all year and he dislocated his shoulder in the Down final and we really couldn't replace him. It wouldn't have changed yesterdays result, but it shows that we've a bit of work to do to build up a load of last years minors and some coming out of this years team to improve the senior squad standard in general.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 10, 2016, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 09, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Good win today, some nice moves up front at times.

Slaughtneil to come, tougher test but I fancy our boys to do the business with 6 or 7 points to spare.


That's a bold prediction!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2016, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 10, 2016, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 09, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Good win today, some nice moves up front at times.

Slaughtneil to come, tougher test but I fancy our boys to do the business with 6 or 7 points to spare.


That's a bold prediction!!

Bold prediction indeed considering Loughuile struggled to beat an under strength Cushendall team in the county final. 🎣😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2016, 07:54:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 10, 2016, 06:19:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 10, 2016, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 09, 2016, 08:50:55 PM
Good win today, some nice moves up front at times.

Slaughtneil to come, tougher test but I fancy our boys to do the business with 6 or 7 points to spare.


That's a bold prediction!!

Bold prediction indeed considering Loughuile struggled to beat an under strength Cushendall team in the county final. 🎣😂


I don't think it was a struggle to be fair. Has Loughgiel or Cushendall been beset by Derry teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
From a neutral perspective i would say the county final was never a struggle pj. After the magill goal loughgiel were always the better team. The ulster final will be interesting. If loughgiel win by 6 or 7 then i think they could give the ai a rattle but slaughtneil not a bad team so be tough enough.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 10, 2016, 11:05:14 PM
Jeepers lads, I didn't expect you 2 to bite!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:56:14 AM
Provisional Fixtures 2017
Division 2a Hurling
Sun 12 Feb    Antrim v London
Sun 19 Feb    Carlow v Antrim
Sun 05 Mar   Antrim v Kildare
Sun 12 Mar   Armagh v Antrim
Sun 26 Mar   Antrim v Westmeath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
makes a change not to have to go to westmeath. some cracking games there........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 13, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
makes a change not to have to go to westmeath. some cracking games there........

I was actually looking to go to Westmeath as an overnighter and watch the game, Carlow probably looking like it now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 13, 2016, 02:09:40 PM
have done the day drive to it usually, its a bit of a mare to do up and down in the day. That being said Carlow away is a good handy run down so ill prob head down to that one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 13, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:56:14 AM
Provisional Fixtures 2017
Division 2a Hurling
Sun 12 Feb    Antrim v London
Sun 19 Feb    Carlow v Antrim
Sun 05 Mar   Antrim v Kildare
Sun 12 Mar   Armagh v Antrim
Sun 26 Mar   Antrim v Westmeath

Will be interesting to see which venue will be used? Loughgiel/Dunloy possibly? Or will Ballycastle get the nod?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 13, 2016, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 13, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:56:14 AM
Provisional Fixtures 2017
Division 2a Hurling
Sun 12 Feb    Antrim v London
Sun 19 Feb    Carlow v Antrim
Sun 05 Mar   Antrim v Kildare
Sun 12 Mar   Armagh v Antrim
Sun 26 Mar   Antrim v Westmeath

Will be interesting to see which venue will be used? Loughgiel/Dunloy possibly? Or will Ballycastle get the nod?

Judging by today's Irish news all roads go to Corrigan.  :)
*sarcasm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 08:54:40 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 13, 2016, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 13, 2016, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 13, 2016, 08:56:14 AM
Provisional Fixtures 2017
Division 2a Hurling
Sun 12 Feb    Antrim v London
Sun 19 Feb    Carlow v Antrim
Sun 05 Mar   Antrim v Kildare
Sun 12 Mar   Armagh v Antrim
Sun 26 Mar   Antrim v Westmeath

Will be interesting to see which venue will be used? Loughgiel/Dunloy possibly? Or will Ballycastle get the nod?

Judging by today's Irish news all roads go to Corrigan.  :)
*sarcasm

Get them up to Ballycastle!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 13, 2016, 09:22:43 PM
The Kildare Match is confirmed for Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2016, 09:31:54 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 13, 2016, 09:22:43 PM
The Kildare Match is confirmed for Cushendall.

Committee call that ?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 13, 2016, 11:49:10 PM
At least we have westmeath at home for a change. would be a good scalp and a sign of progress
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Don't know how/when it was chosen other than someone on the Management obviously doesn't like the wind up in the Town, not good for the hair!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 15, 2016, 11:52:20 AM
Dunsilly got officially opened this morning. Hopefully the beginning of a brighter future for all gaels in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2016, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:48:49 AM
Don't know how/when it was chosen other than someone on the Management obviously doesn't like the wind up in the Town, not good for the hair!!

Well that's good because certain club men who are high up in clubs seem to get the vote!! There's no way that would happen at the Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
You've obviously got someone in high places, playing the County final a few hundred yards from Miltown!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
You've obviously got someone in high places, playing the County final a few hundred yards from Miltown!!

You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Loughgiel winning All Irelands 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2016, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
You've obviously got someone in high places, playing the County final a few hundred yards from Miltown!!

You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Loughgiel winning All Irelands 😉

Let's just hope no more cats are vandalised  :-[

Great to see Dunsilly open and also think totating county games around various clubs is the way to go - only in the absence of casement of course :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 16, 2016, 09:59:35 AM
 You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Lughole winning All Irelands 😉

Loughguile nothing to do with my point really as it's a good pitch where we have won/lost many a championship match over the years as you will remember. I was simply pointing out that St Galls got a match moved to The Johnnies which as we know from our hurling semi final is not suitable to host big matches. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2016, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
You've obviously got someone in high places, playing the County final a few hundred yards from Miltown!!

You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Loughgiel winning All Irelands 😉

Let's just hope no more cats are vandalised  :-[

Great to see Dunsilly open and also think totating county games around various clubs is the way to go - only in the absence of casement of course :D

I didn't hear about the cats being vandalised !! Dirty feckers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 16, 2016, 09:59:35 AM
You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Lughole winning All Irelands 😉

Loughguile nothing to do with my point really as it's a good pitch where we have won/lost many a championship match over the years as you will remember. I was simply pointing out that St Galls got a match moved to The Johnnies which as we know from our hurling semi final is not suitable to host big matches.

So 'we' got the match moved now?? Now you're just making this stuff up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 16, 2016, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 16, 2016, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Quote from: Hand up on October 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
You've obviously got someone in high places, playing the County final a few hundred yards from Miltown!!

You obviously don't know about our rivalry with the Johnnies, we ain't friends, I'd say the Corrigan men won't be cheering us on... but like your begrudging of Loughgiel winning All Irelands 😉

Let's just hope no more cats are vandalised  :-[

Great to see Dunsilly open and also think totating county games around various clubs is the way to go - only in the absence of casement of course :D

I didn't hear about the cats being vandalised !! Dirty feckers

CARS
Although it is the whiterock so who knows ;)

Corrigan has got a really good turn out of county & club championship games this year. I like the idea of rotating games around our various grounds. Let's face it attendances aren't going to cripple anywhere.  Casement would be better however  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 20, 2016, 12:16:50 PM
Very sad to hear of the death of Thomas Cassidy up in Slaughtneil. A stalwart if ever there was one, nobody gave more in his love for the game and his club than he did. A true gentleman who will be remembered fondly for manys a year.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 22, 2016, 03:32:44 PM
Can't escape the feeling that tomorrow's game is another that belongs in casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 22, 2016, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 22, 2016, 03:32:44 PM
Can't escape the feeling that tomorrow's game is another that belongs in casement.
Let it go man! There will be a few thousand at it so it's not as if it needs significant capacity and fans from both parishes will attend even if it's not the "spiritual home" of Ulster hurling. The main impact will be less neutrals travelling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2016, 11:43:06 AM
Currently en-route to Armagh. I wish it was in casement as well to save this sail down! Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on October 23, 2016, 01:34:09 PM
Any way to watch the finals live online today? Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 23, 2016, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 22, 2016, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on October 22, 2016, 03:32:44 PM
Can't escape the feeling that tomorrow's game is another that belongs in casement.
Let it go man! There will be a few thousand at it so it's not as if it needs significant capacity and fans from both parishes will attend even if it's not the "spiritual home" of Ulster hurling. The main impact will be less neutrals travelling.

Exactly. Not its spiritual home. And less neutrals. Time to get Casement built.
https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU
:) :) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 23, 2016, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 23, 2016, 01:34:09 PM
Any way to watch the finals live online today? Cheers

Afraid not, Armagh gaa not showing it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on October 23, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
Loughgiel beat by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 04:11:29 PM
Congratulations to Slaughtneil, they've been knocking on the door for 4 years. A really strong hurling team from a brilliant club. Commiserations to Loughgiel, we know ourselves what its like to loose an Ulster Final but Loughgiel have enough young lads coming through to be in the mix for the foreseeable future. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Stallion on October 23, 2016, 04:33:59 PM
Antrim club hurling seems to be in poor shape these days. Slaughtneil are a good team and fully deserve their trophy, but I can't help but think they would have struggled to get out of Derry 20-30 years ago, never mind win an Ulster.

Complacency within Antrim or what is the problem?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2016, 04:42:04 PM
Last year the winners got to the ai final. Not that long ago loughgiel won the ai...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2016, 04:51:26 PM
Huge win for them!! Would never have thought Loughgiel would have been in trouble for that one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Stallion on October 23, 2016, 04:59:28 PM
I know that Tommy but any time I've watched Antrim club hurling the standard has noticeably declined. Maybe I've just not veen lucky with the games I've seen.

Would any of ye agree with what I'm saying?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2016, 05:35:20 PM
To be honest yes. I think it's not what it was. Also there are only at the minute two potential winners which i am not convinced is good for it.

That being said i thought loughgiel looked very impressive in antrim this year. I wasn't at the game today but i suspect they were at a physical disadvantage as they are quite a small team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 05:36:31 PM
Stallion, the current Cushendall and Loughgiel teams are strong but outside of that things have gone backwards for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2016, 06:07:33 PM
Congrats to slaughtneill. Better team won. You cant expect to give away a 10 point lead in the first 15 minutes of a provincial final and expect to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 23, 2016, 06:13:38 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 23, 2016, 06:07:33 PM
Congrats to slaughtneill. Better team won. You cant expect to give away a 10 point lead in the first 15 minutes of a provincial final and expect to win it.
Nope. A mountain to climb after the 2-03 was registered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
Even after the bad start they played really poor. Donal McKinley aside your other 5 forwards had stinkers. Tony McCloskey tried hard too. As poor as I've seen Loughiel play. I fear that Slaughtneil could get a hammering in the AI semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 23, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Well done to Slaughtneil. Better team won. All the best to them in the All Ireland series.

Be some achievement for their club if they can follow up with a win in the Ulster Football too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game

Today they slowed the game down at every opportunity. They brought the game down to a physical tussle. There was minimal hurling played. They won because of physical strength and fair play to them for it. They won't get away with it against the standard of team they'll play next time round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 23, 2016, 08:04:06 PM
A learned and well connected gaa aficionado predicted to me midweek exactly Slaugtneil to win by 4 points. I took his point of view on board but not enough to go having a wager or anything like that.  His reasoning was S'neil got close enough last year with half their team going on a two day bender earlier in the week after winning the football championship and apart from the fact that wouldn't happen this year, the Derry champions had more belief about themselves and finally that a lot of their younger players were a year older and a bit further developed. He added it all up and couldn't see them beaten.

Some achievement for a dual club, especially with quite a few football first and not the other way round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 23, 2016, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 23, 2016, 08:04:06 PM
A learned and well connected gaa aficionado predicted to me midweek exactly Slaugtneil to win by 4 points. I took his point of view on board but not enough to go having a wager or anything like that.  His reasoning was S'neil got close enough last year with half their team going on a two day bender earlier in the week after winning the football championship and apart from the fact that wouldn't happen this year, the Derry champions had more belief about themselves and finally that a lot of their younger players were a year older and a bit further developed. He added it all up and couldn't see them beaten.

Some achievement for a dual club, especially with quite a few football first and not the other way round.

Add this to running into an work man like but ordinary Antrim champion was a dangerous combination.

Not running LG down more than deserved to be champions but I would say they would admit themselves that they are a long way short of their vintage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on October 23, 2016, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game

Today they slowed the game down at every opportunity. They brought the game down to a physical tussle. There was minimal hurling played. They won because of physical strength and fair play to them for it. They won't get away with it against the standard of team they'll play next time round.

Were Slaughneil to do it would it be the first even provincial double ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: ashman on October 23, 2016, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game

Today they slowed the game down at every opportunity. They brought the game down to a physical tussle. There was minimal hurling played. They won because of physical strength and fair play to them for it. They won't get away with it against the standard of team they'll play next time round.

Were Slaughneil to do it would it be the first even provincial double ???

They're clearly doing something right as a club. Fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 23, 2016, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: ashman on October 23, 2016, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game

Today they slowed the game down at every opportunity. They brought the game down to a physical tussle. There was minimal hurling played. They won because of physical strength and fair play to them for it. They won't get away with it against the standard of team they'll play next time round.

Were Slaughneil to do it would it be the first even provincial double ???

At senior level  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 23, 2016, 11:01:33 PM
Never mind the double the treble is still on :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 'Tosser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2016, 08:56:10 AM
Have to say that i was impressed with Sneill yesterday, they looked physically stronger than Loughgiel all over the pitch and their fitness was much better.

I was surprised Lgiel got beat as i fancied them to win before the game. i felt their knowledge at this level and their stickwork would be more than enough to see them over the line without any stress but that was blew out of the water. The strength and stick work of Sneill was impressive to watch.

as others said on here a 2-03 head start was a mountain to try and claw back and the nearest Lgiel got was 3 points when they had the wind in their sails after their goal. Sneill seem to be pushing the bar up for other clubs and have been knocking on the door this past 2 years at this level. They were more than good for it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.

And there we have it, win at all costs mentality.

Skull is bang on with the outside managers practice. Great achievement for Slaughtneil, but would be an even more impressive one had their own got them there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.

And there we have it, win at all costs mentality.

Skull is bang on with the outside managers practice. Great achievement for Slaughtneil, but would be an even more impressive one had their own got them there.
they didn't hire helicopters to bring anyone up from the south though.  No point in being nearly men the rest of their days. They've got a four seasons in the parish. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on October 24, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 23, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 23, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Why would you think Slaughtneil would get a hammering? They are after beating Loughgiel and it was no fluke. They have been as good a team as there is in Ulster this 5 years. Every bit as good as ourselves and Loughgiel. They'll give anyone a game


Today they slowed the game down at every opportunity. They brought the game down to a physical tussle. There was minimal hurling played. They won because of physical strength and fair play to them for it. They won't get away with it against the standard of team they'll play next time round.


We are coming into the depths of winter where it tends to favour the more physical sides so I wouldn't be surprised if they do win the next day out.
There doesn't be too much pretty hurling played in All Ireland Club semi's going by previous years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.

And there we have it, win at all costs mentality.

Skull is bang on with the outside managers practice. Great achievement for Slaughtneil, but would be an even more impressive one had their own got them there.
they didn't hire helicopters to bring anyone up from the south though.  No point in being nearly men the rest of their days. They've got a four seasons in the parish. Fair play to them.

And not forgetting wee Jim (RIP), Dinny Cahill and others SIE...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.

And there we have it, win at all costs mentality.

Skull is bang on with the outside managers practice. Great achievement for Slaughtneil, but would be an even more impressive one had their own got them there.
they didn't hire helicopters to bring anyone up from the south though.  No point in being nearly men the rest of their days. They've got a four seasons in the parish. Fair play to them.

And not forgetting wee Jim (RIP), Dinny Cahill and others SIE...
Would you be opposed to an outsider managing antrim if it meant improvement? Careful now... ..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2016, 09:32:14 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.

Jez Skull you're a bit OTT on the last bit, yes they've used outside managers in both hurling and football at senior level, but that shouldn't take away from the serious amount of effort they've put in a juvenile level for a sustained period culminating in yesterdays result. I'd bet they'd no outside managers involved up until that point and they're hardly the first to call upon the expertise of outside individuals to get them over the line.

If anyone wants to look at how its done, then you could do a lot worse than look at their structures, five coaches/parents with each team is a start I know we can't get to and it would ideal to get there and from my own experiences where we've ramped up the amount of games our juveniles attend in terms of blitzes and tournaments, Slaughneil are invariably there and one of the top teams at them, they won the recent U12 blitz run by Eoghan Rua in Edendork we were at and their record in the Ulster minor club championship is second to none as well as in the Ulster Feiles that were run up until the last few years.

They'd put the foundations in place first before putting the roof on where a lot of clubs think an outside manager is going to work wonders when the building blocks aren't there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 09:43:36 AM
Could people please start bun fights with other peoples opinions. My comments in regard to outside management was a statement of fact made to provide balance to the widely held social media opinion that every club should be trying to look up to them and copy everything that brought about their success at senior level. I've a right to hold the opinion that its a practice that should be frowned upon and discouraged. Other can think whatever they want and are entitled to their own view on the subject on which I'm sure are wide and varied. Only a fool would live in the binary world that SIE seems to live in.

I couldn't be more delighted for Slaughtneil in being able to honor a true volunteers memory and that is my overriding feeling on the subject (just so you know)

JC - read what I said and align it with what your accusing me of saying ..ffs.... reading between the lines and seeing something I never said or implied  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:48:58 AM
So basically you're saying no one is allowed to have an opinion on your opinion skull? If you don't want your opinion scrutinised don't post it.

Please elaborate on your "binary world" theory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..
a lot of things went wrong yesterday. I'm not going to pick out individuals to slag off as you'd like. Collectively we weren't good enough. Simple as that.

We won antrim at a canter though. That's more worrying as an Antrim supporter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2016, 10:14:03 AM
to be completly fair here Sneill were just a better team. I dont think any tactics or different players in positions was going to matter as the Derry men were just better in all areas of the pitch.

Loughgiels main men just couldn't get into the game. Shay Casey tried hard, as did Liam Watson but the Sneill defence didnt let them get the ball, its as simple as that. The players who you would be expecting to do the damage didn't have any effect at all. Young McKinley & Connelly were just muscled off the ball all the time.

Loughgiel are a quality team, theres no doubt about that. They fully deserved to win Antrim this year and were much better than Cdall in the county final but they were out fought by a hungrier side who wanted to win more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 10:23:38 AM
Was down at match yesterday
Loughgeil didn't get off the bus to half time by then it was two late
It was one of those days when SN where not going to be beat with the emotional agenda a driving force
There is no need to start nit-picking what LG did wrong on the line and on the field
They did there best

The whole thing just strengthens the argument about The Standard in Antrim at the minute

LG where hands down the best team in Antrim this year
But on closer Scrutiny they squeezed past an unfit and somewhat unprepared CDall team by three points
CDall struggled to get out of Ulster to recently
Any wonder we can't beat county Meath and the likes if our club standards have taken a nose dive of late
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on October 24, 2016, 10:26:04 AM
Anyone who didn't think Slaughtneil were in with a shout yesterday needs their head looked at.  I couldn't believe that the bookies had LG as odds-on favourites (and duly took their money ;)) They ran Loughguile to 2 points in 2013, and put the dall to the pin of their collar in 2014 and 2015.  All with basically the same players as they have today who are now 3 years older (and still only averaging 22!).  They'll be a force in ulster for the foreseeable - imagine what sort of a side they'll be when these lads are 27-28 (with a couple more ulster minor winning teama still to be properly blooded!).  If you want to take a few quid off Paddy Power stick your dinner money on this not being the last time the Four Seasons cup comes to Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..
a lot of things went wrong yesterday. I'm not going to pick out individuals to slag off as you'd like. Collectively we weren't good enough. Simple as that.

We won antrim at a canter though. That's more worrying as an Antrim supporter.

Canter??

Big statement SIE.

Haven't the b@lls to make such statements before these games, always playing it down, only a puck of the ball in the two teams - as there was!

How does a puck of a ball translate to a canter?

Just answer my previous post, are these points right or wrong?

Come on SIE.  Give an opinion, tell us how where you think it went wrong..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on October 24, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..
a lot of things went wrong yesterday. I'm not going to pick out individuals to slag off as you'd like. Collectively we weren't good enough. Simple as that.

We won antrim at a canter though. That's more worrying as an Antrim supporter.

If your Antrim win was 'at a canter' then youse were hammered out the gate yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..
a lot of things went wrong yesterday. I'm not going to pick out individuals to slag off as you'd like. Collectively we weren't good enough. Simple as that.

We won antrim at a canter though. That's more worrying as an Antrim supporter.

If your Antrim win was 'at a canter' then youse were hammered out the gate yesterday.
that would be the point. Please don't take issue when there isn't an issue to take.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2016, 10:54:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 09:43:36 AM
dn't be more delighted for Slaughtneil in being able to honor a true volunteers memory and that is my overriding feeling on the subject (just so you know)


Apologies to an extent Skull, but as much as McShane is a Ballycastle man, does he not reside in that area now? I've heard of him taking teams in that area before he went back to Ballycastle for a few years, with all the traveling that entails.

FWIW,
I'm also against outside managers, and I can't see it being an issue for as we just don't have the coupons to do it, plus if we did I'd prefer the money to be spent elsewhere in terms of developing underage teams and facilities. The figures I hear bandied about that some Down football clubs are paying for managers and backroom teams is staggering and bordering on madness.


On the Jonny Campbell thing, give the lad a break, its his first year, he'll learn a lot from yesterday, more than he'd learn from a win in fairness, but I think he should have taken a year or two away from the team before taking up the reigns as there's too many lads he's played with through the years and the dynamic has to change once he takes up the managerial role and that can be difficult.
He was an intelligent hurler in his day and he'll make a good manager once he learns the ropes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:52:52 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 24, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
Where did things go wrong for Loughgiel SIE?

Going by anyone you talked to from Loughgiel, this was a great team with young players coming through, the fittest and toughest team in a long time...

James Campbell even made comparison to the greats of 2012

Just seemed to be a formality from the pre game chat...

Any thoughts?
We weren't at the races from the start. As hard as it is to say it the hungrier team won it. Slaughtneil were first to every breaking ball and took their chances well. We didn't. Even in the last few minutes when we pulled it back to 3 points we hit 3 wides. Winning the championship this year was a bonus for us considering the strength of Cushendall. A couple of young boys joined the panel this year and there'll be a few more next year. All's well Hirty. No need to worry.  ;)

Glad to see you have acknowledged what many did not want to admit.  (I suppose it's easy to do so now they haven't won Ulster). Loughgiel beat the best Cushendall team available on the day but it was under strengthed. 

Didn't make the game but from what I have seen and heard there are a lot of things to be worried about from your perspective. 

1) Slow start for the fourth game running...
2) A corner back needed replaced, the County Corner back is on the bench - what a luxury.  The County Corner back is later in the game put up front ahead of a bench full of forwards???
3) The Chosen One, who has when supplied the ball, scored, laid off or attracted a foul - from what I hear one of the more productive forwards - is taken off when you are 3/4 pts down??
4) No apparent tactics.
5) Out fought, out muscled, out played, our smarted ...

You need the players to perform but that is down to them but when you have as quoted to me "the best panel in Ulster", perhaps the managements inexperience has showed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here SIE, some of this second hand info..
a lot of things went wrong yesterday. I'm not going to pick out individuals to slag off as you'd like. Collectively we weren't good enough. Simple as that.

We won antrim at a canter though. That's more worrying as an Antrim supporter.

If your Antrim win was 'at a canter' then youse were hammered out the gate yesterday.
that would be the point. Please don't take issue when there isn't an issue to take.

Cushendall will be stronger next year, and have proven when at full strength they can beat Slaughtneil.

Not that worrying all in all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 09:48:58 AM
So basically you're saying no one is allowed to have an opinion on your opinion skull? If you don't want your opinion scrutinised don't post it.

Please elaborate on your "binary world" theory.

You asserted that success is success...End of. What is there that needs elaborating?

No idea what the first sentence is in reference to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The Stallion on October 24, 2016, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
I'm certain 't**ser' was the 16th man for both the hurling and camogie sides and honoring his memory drove them onto victory and for that you'd have to be thoroughly delighted for them. His family will take great comfort from the emotion expressed on the field of play.

There's certainly a lot to look up to in regard to Slaughtneil as a club especially how well they manage both codes but it would be say that hurling, having no specialists (clubs with single code players dedicated to the small ball), we would not be comparing apples with apples if we were looking at how dual clubs need to prepare for championship in Antrim. Regardless, they got the balance right and look to be able to hold onto a high number of adult players,

Final point I feel I have to make when so many are hailing their success as a club (important to be consistent in regard to these matters). Slaughtneil use outside managers. I'd be fundamentally against such practice as It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other clubs suffer the blow as result. Important to remember that.
would that be negative narrative skull? Success is sucess. End of.

And there we have it, win at all costs mentality.

Skull is bang on with the outside managers practice. Great achievement for Slaughtneil, but would be an even more impressive one had their own got them there.


Completely agree with this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 11:49:35 AM
In view that the discussion is mostly centered on the outside management
Does most posters think MC Shane ( and big hippy )is the difference between Sneil winning and losing yesterday
I don't think so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I think it is a poor dig citing outside management.  Christ folks they are not the biggest club out there catchment wise but yet are competing in both codes and have just lifted the Ulster hurling title and some are getting hung up about outside coaches - what is the agenda here? - next step to poo poo LGs recent AI because Jim Nelson was the brains behind it??  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I think it is a poor dig citing outside management.  Christ folks they are not the biggest club out there catchment wise but yet are competing in both codes and have just lifted the Ulster hurling title and some are getting hung up about outside coaches - what is the agenda here? - next step to poo poo LGs recent AI because Jim Nelson was the brains behind it??  :-\

I think it is a more than fair observation.

No one is running down their achievement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2016, 12:16:21 PM
no one would diss the success gained by a club from bringing an outside manager in its rather that some (me included) dont like an outside manager within a club.

There are numerous people in the club who would and could step up to the mantel to bring success to a club at senior level but too many clubs seem to prefer to splash cash at someone who, well lets be real about it, have no emotional connection to that club and will not care at the end of the season if the club decides to go with someone else.

I like the way Johnny stepped in to take the job and i admire him for wanting it. He will learn as he goes thats for sure and this year will be a great asset to him for next season. I know ive been at it for a few years now and am always looking at others and how they approach a team. The ability to learn and know when your wrong is what makes you better the next time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I think it is a poor dig citing outside management.  Christ folks they are not the biggest club out there catchment wise but yet are competing in both codes and have just lifted the Ulster hurling title and some are getting hung up about outside coaches - what is the agenda here? - next step to poo poo LGs recent AI because Jim Nelson was the brains behind it??  :-\
Now, that's bang on. I'd go further to say that they're more than competing, they're winning. In three codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I think it is a poor dig citing outside management.  Christ folks they are not the biggest club out there catchment wise but yet are competing in both codes and have just lifted the Ulster hurling title and some are getting hung up about outside coaches - what is the agenda here? - next step to poo poo LGs recent AI because Jim Nelson was the brains behind it??  :-\

I wouldnt compare SNeil acheviement to LG all Ireland sucees
I feel SNeil could have won yesterday with in house personnel
LG would not have won without Nelsons input

And nobody on here is poo pooing anyone who wins Ulster or all Ireland's
Any club does it has to be admired

Brian Cody couldn't go up and take the Longford hurlers and win an all Ireland but the current Longford manager might not have the know how to win an all Ireland with the current Tipp panel
Comparisons on this subject have to many variables

SNeil have a serious bunch of players hence the dual success ( with two different management set ups I presume )

Fair play to them and hard luck LG. you just met an emotional juggernaut yesterday and a wee bit of complacency about what you where up against
Still the standard in a Antrim that's for sure







Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on October 24, 2016, 01:08:43 PM
http://ulster.gaa.ie/2016/10/proposed-new-casement-park-stadium-unveiled/

34,500

Anybody aware of what the original capacity was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 24, 2016, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM
I think it is a poor dig citing outside management.  Christ folks they are not the biggest club out there catchment wise but yet are competing in both codes and have just lifted the Ulster hurling title and some are getting hung up about outside coaches - what is the agenda here? - next step to poo poo LGs recent AI because Jim Nelson was the brains behind it??  :-\
No we poo pooed LGs recent AI because they didn't play any decent teams  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 01:32:50 PM
For the record ...not once did I state Slaughtneils success was down to outside management. I factually stated they have outside management and that IMO its a practice I fundamentally disagree with because I believe that it's harmful to the GAA in general. The fact that it's pervasive in many areas doesn't change my thinking on the topic. Perhaps it was for another day ... but I've seen so many references to people mentioning their achievement serving as an example to all clubs and you think ....'ummmm yes absolutely... in alot of ways ... but not that part....'.

If anyone chooses to reread my initial post on this subject, they will see that my over riding feeling is one of delight for them winning yesterday, but I should have known, there's no headline in that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Parent on October 24, 2016, 01:47:19 PM
Massive congrats to Slaughtneil !! Such a great & very emotional game for all involved. Thomas (RIP) would have been so proud.

Yes They are winning in 3 codes ....why?  Just visit their grounds any night of the week to see the buzz & crowd of young & older footballers/hurlers/camogie players on the pitch Its a community without a shop or pub Maybe thats why they see GAA as a way of life!

Delighted to see a Derry Team win an Ulster Hurling title & maybe now the Derry Board will start to give Hurling the same respect they give  Derry football. I live in hope
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
Personally I am not against the idea of outside coaches/managers in a horses for courses sort of way.  Yes in an ideal world every club would have people of the pedigree who have the time and the respect of the players to step in and drive their club forward but this is not always the case.  In the case of SN they have an Ulster title to justify their decision and whether or not someone inside the club could have achieved that is hypothetical. I do agree that it is obscene the money some are demanding/ getting mind and I know a couple of young(ish) lads who have ambitions of moving on from reserve team management at their respective clubs to getting into the management game elsewhere for a bit of coin so certainly plenty of mercenaries out there to fill the spots.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
I have no strong feeling against outside management / coaches etc.  I can't think of any club in the County who haven't availed of input from those outside the club for coaching, strength & conditioning etc.

I was chatting to a mate who has been actively involved in coaching 4 different teams over the past 7 years for different clubs than the one he played with.  I asked him if he ever considers getting involved with his own club and he said that as much as he would love to he wouldn't charge them if he did. He has a young family and a mortgage to pay and he finds the coaching game more enjoyable / lucrative than an evening job.

That's just the way some lads approach it, a source of income.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Agree - plus some of the stronger clubs have a wealth of people who could tick the boxes for the role but only one or two are needed at any point in time so it is good to go and get senior level experience elsewhere in this instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
I have no strong feeling against outside management / coaches etc.  I can't think of any club in the County who haven't availed of input from those outside the club for coaching, strength & conditioning etc.

I was chatting to a mate who has been actively involved in coaching 4 different teams over the past 7 years for different clubs than the one he has played with.  I asked him if he ever considers getting involved with his own club and he said that as much as he would love to he said he wouldn't charge them if he did. He has a young family and a mortgage to pay and he finds the coaching game more enjoyable / lucrative than an evening job. That's just the way some lads approach it, a source of income.

I have issues with clubs forking out money on managers
What did the loughgeil massive think of one of there former players managing the SN comogs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
I have no strong feeling against outside management / coaches etc.  I can't think of any club in the County who haven't availed of input from those outside the club for coaching, strength & conditioning etc.

I was chatting to a mate who has been actively involved in coaching 4 different teams over the past 7 years for different clubs than the one he has played with.  I asked him if he ever considers getting involved with his own club and he said that as much as he would love to he said he wouldn't charge them if he did. He has a young family and a mortgage to pay and he finds the coaching game more enjoyable / lucrative than an evening job. That's just the way some lads approach it, a source of income.

I have issues with clubs forking out money on managers
What did the loughgeil massive think of one of there former players managing the SN comogs

I noticed him with a Sneil top on, said to myself he must be involved with their camogs this year.  Never gave it a second thought after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 24, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Agree - plus some of the stronger clubs have a wealth of people who could tick the boxes for the role but only one or two are needed at any point in time so it is good to go and get senior level experience elsewhere in this instance.

Some will say if you don't get the senior gig then go and take the minors or the U14s etc.  That's OK in theory but some lads want to be involved with the older players to better their experience. No matter what your approach someone will disagree about how best you should do it.

I have no doubt the friend I mentioned will manage his own club some time in the future and he'll be a better manager for his experiences when he does.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
I have no strong feeling against outside management / coaches etc.  I can't think of any club in the County who haven't availed of input from those outside the club for coaching, strength & conditioning etc.

I was chatting to a mate who has been actively involved in coaching 4 different teams over the past 7 years for different clubs than the one he has played with.  I asked him if he ever considers getting involved with his own club and he said that as much as he would love to he said he wouldn't charge them if he did. He has a young family and a mortgage to pay and he finds the coaching game more enjoyable / lucrative than an evening job. That's just the way some lads approach it, a source of income.

I have issues with clubs forking out money on managers
What did the loughgeil massive think of one of there former players managing the SN comogs

I noticed him with a Sneil top on, said to myself he must be involved with their camogs this year.  Never gave it a second thought after that.
Precisely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
Not every sham would think 'precisely'
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 24, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
Not every sham would think 'precisely'

I can only give my opinion.  I'll ask Fr. Butler to do a show of hands at mass this weekend to see if we can get any additional responses.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
You'd never a see a Dunloy man coaching outside Dunloy sure. Oh wait..   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
You'd never a see a Dunloy man coaching outside Dunloy sure. Oh wait..

Good old SIE
Trying to start a Pis-ing match

Is the subject on hand not relation to managers out this weekend
If I had the interest to respond I would

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
You'd never a see a Dunloy man coaching outside Dunloy sure. Oh wait..   

Implication that that should in some way influence my own personal opinion on the subject I take it?  You win again SIE. How do you do it 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:49:07 PM
Lads, take a look before you hit post.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 24, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 24, 2016, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:49:07 PM
Lads, take a look before you hit post.

Right the conversation is in the gutter again
SIE Imm off so knock yourself out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yous can't give credit to a team without what a former poster on here used to say "aye but".  Credit where credit is due. And as skull almost renaged, it was poorly timed at best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yous can't give credit to a team without what a former poster on here used to say "aye but".  Credit where credit is due. And as skull almost renaged, it was poorly timed at best.

It was a valid point as far as I can see.

You have taken umbrage with it SIE because it is something your club have partaken in. So I would say you will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yous can't give credit to a team without what a former poster on here used to say "aye but".  Credit where credit is due. And as skull almost renaged, it was poorly timed at best.

It was a valid point as far as I can see.

You have taken umbrage with it SIE because it is something your club have partaken in. So I would say you will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I agree with you on this one. But it doesn't make it right or wrong. The fact that someone felt the need to post about it originally meant that they took umbrage with it. Not me. Yes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yous can't give credit to a team without what a former poster on here used to say "aye but".  Credit where credit is due. And as skull almost renaged, it was poorly timed at best.

It was a valid point as far as I can see.

You have taken umbrage with it SIE because it is something your club have partaken in. So I would say you will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I agree with you on this one. But it doesn't make it right or wrong. The fact that someone felt the need to post about it originally meant that they took umbrage with it. Not me. Yes?

Dont think Skull was taking umbrage with it, merely pointing out the fact that it was lamentable that a club being lauded as a model of good practice couldn't have done it themselves.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Yous can't give credit to a team without what a former poster on here used to say "aye but".  Credit where credit is due. And as skull almost renaged, it was poorly timed at best.

It was a valid point as far as I can see.

You have taken umbrage with it SIE because it is something your club have partaken in. So I would say you will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I agree with you on this one. But it doesn't make it right or wrong. The fact that someone felt the need to post about it originally meant that they took umbrage with it. Not me. Yes?

Dont think Skull was taking umbrage with it, merely pointing out the fact that it was lamentable that a club being lauded as a model of good practice couldn't have done it themselves.
what's lamentable is the fact that some people cant have good grace when a team wins. They won, end of. Time for us all to move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
You'd never a see a Dunloy man coaching outside Dunloy sure. Oh wait..

but you wont see an outside manage within our club and get paid for it. 8)

To be fair people have skewed skulls point. I see what he was getting at and that we should be promoting coaches within our own clubs rather than automatically going outside and throwing money at an outsider when they could spend that on good courses and training within their own club for their own members.

i know people will say 'aye but use paid a coach before' and i can see how it sounds a bit hypocritical but the club doesn't pay these people, its the players themselves through their own fund raising. Im of the opinion that there is good coaches in our club that we dont need to pay anyone. What they need is more help and education etc to continue their development rather than pay a mercenary who will take the money in most cases and leave when it goes wrong and not care.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 05:08:30 PM
(http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/3828914.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2016, 06:51:05 PM
lol ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2016, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
You'd never a see a Dunloy man coaching outside Dunloy sure. Oh wait..

but you wont see an outside manage within our club and get paid for it. 8)

To be fair people have skewed skulls point. I see what he was getting at and that we should be promoting coaches within our own clubs rather than automatically going outside and throwing money at an outsider when they could spend that on good courses and training within their own club for their own members.

i know people will say 'aye but use paid a coach before' and i can see how it sounds a bit hypocritical but the club doesn't pay these people, its the players themselves through their own fund raising. Im of the opinion that there is good coaches in our club that we dont need to pay anyone. What they need is more help and education etc to continue their development rather than pay a mercenary who will take the money in most cases and leave when it goes wrong and not care.

DR are you talking about paid coaches or the likes of a fitness trainer type thing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2016, 08:20:09 AM
yeah like a fitness coach or a trainer thats brought in at a certain part of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 25, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 24, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
what's lamentable is the fact that some people cant have good grace when a team wins. They won, end of. Time for us all to move on
::)

Black and White, Right or Wrong, 1's or 0's ...... end of. You're inability to see a more nuanced perspective (and react accordingly) ends up with you twisting what people actually say when those opinion don't fit into you're 1's or 0's view of the world. At least others got a sense of what I was actually saying. Its a shame though that genuine discussion points within our organisation can get saturated by mud slinging rather than keeping it on the level.   

(https://pixabay.com/static/uploads/photo/2016/04/13/19/21/binary-1327495_960_720.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
What's the craic with Dickie Murphy refereeing tonight's Mageean Cup final, think he did last years too. No refs in Ulster able for it ?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on October 27, 2016, 01:28:26 PM
Dickie, was being rewarded for his help refeering during the group stages!!! UC  what do you expect??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 28, 2016, 09:55:20 AM
Hope Lamh Dearg and Cloughmills can give the county a wee boost this weekend. Good luck to both teams. Lamh Dearg play in Owenbeg at 12.30 and Cloughmills in Loughiel at 2.30pm. Cloughmills will probably face a similar style as Loughiel did on Sunday given they play Carrickmore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 29, 2016, 07:26:02 PM
Good luck to both  Antrim teams tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 30, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Biddies the more efficient outfit as they beat Carrickmore by 6. Carrickmore will be kicking themselves with the wides they struck over the hour both from frees and open play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 30, 2016, 07:07:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Biddies the more efficient outfit as they beat Carrickmore by 6. Carrickmore will be kicking themselves with the wides they struck over the hour both from frees and open play

Carrickmore were brutal. Striking, handling and passing were all poor. I'd imagine Cloughmills will need to up their game for Keady in two weeks time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 30, 2016, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 30, 2016, 07:07:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 30, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Biddies the more efficient outfit as they beat Carrickmore by 6. Carrickmore will be kicking themselves with the wides they struck over the hour both from frees and open play

Carrickmore were brutal. Striking, handling and passing were all poor. I'd imagine Cloughmills will need to up their game for Keady in two weeks time.
Cloughmills will be none too happy with their performance today although they took their scores easier than a middling Carrickmore side. Word from Tyrone was that they were motoring and going to give it a real lash. some of the frees they missed were awful never mind chances from play.  Carrickmore won most of the Cloughmills  puckouts  but rarely did anything useful with the possession.
Hope they can get traction for the Keady game as todays level might not be enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 31, 2016, 08:47:05 AM
think we counted at least 7/8 frees that they missed over the hour. They were bound to have hit near 20 wides for the whole match at the end up?

Cloughmills will need to up their game for the next match as that was just enough to beat a poor Carrickmore side who played the whole second half with 14 men as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 31, 2016, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 31, 2016, 08:47:05 AM
think we counted at least 7/8 frees that they missed over the hour. They were bound to have hit near 20 wides for the whole match at the end up?

Cloughmills will need to up their game for the next match as that was just enough to beat a poor Carrickmore side who played the whole second half with 14 men as well.

Carrickmore had 17 wides. From 15 frees they scored 8 and missed 7. It was their free taker was sent off at halftime.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 01, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Whilst carrickmore probably didn't play to the best of their ability cloughmills were always in control. Always thought had they needed to they could have stepped it up. As it was they didn't need to. Carrickmore have beaten keady a couple of times already this season and would be perceived to be a better outfit than keady. whilst cloughmills have nothing to fear they will need to be better v keady but keady will have to be at their best to beat cloughmills. That's for sure. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 01, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Whilst carrickmore probably didn't play to the best of their ability cloughmills were always in control. Always thought had they needed to they could have stepped it up. As it was they didn't need to. Carrickmore have beaten keady a couple of times already this season and would be perceived to be a better outfit than keady. whilst cloughmills have nothing to fear they will need to be better v keady but keady will have to be at their best to beat cloughmills. That's for sure.

Hope that's the case as from memory Keady were always a difficult unit to beat at intermediate level... good luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on November 01, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
I dont think so clougmills Abu, u never looked like being able to press on at anytime in your game.  With that performance I would be weary about progressing much further
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 01, 2016, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 01, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Whilst carrickmore probably didn't play to the best of their ability cloughmills were always in control. Always thought had they needed to they could have stepped it up. As it was they didn't need to. Carrickmore have beaten keady a couple of times already this season and would be perceived to be a better outfit than keady. whilst cloughmills have nothing to fear they will need to be better v keady but keady will have to be at their best to beat cloughmills. That's for sure.

Hope that's the case as from memory Keady were always a difficult unit to beat at intermediate level... good luck
Keady not too shabby but not sure they're as good as they have in previous years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 01, 2016, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on November 01, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
I dont think so clougmills Abu, u never looked like being able to press on at anytime in your game.  With that performance I would be weary about progressing much further

As I say keady are probably not as good as carrickmore but agree we need to be better. Only ballygalgat have beaten us in league or championship this year so confidence is high.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2016, 08:49:10 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 01, 2016, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on November 01, 2016, 08:06:02 PM
I dont think so clougmills Abu, u never looked like being able to press on at anytime in your game.  With that performance I would be weary about progressing much further

As I say keady are probably not as good as carrickmore but agree we need to be better. Only ballygalgat have beaten us in league or championship this year so confidence is high.

I think you were more in control in the sense you got the goals at a vital time in the game. Have to wonder what their keeper was at each time for the goals coming out for a ball he couldn't get too. They shot shocking wides, esp from the placed ball, that keep them at arms lenght all the time during the match.

2 outstanding line balls from Micky Devlin, one in each half, for points was the highlight of the game for me.

Will take a much more improved performance to win the next day out but hopefully Cloughmills will progress to the Ulster Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: doodaa on November 02, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
I would have put Keady ahead of Carrickmore in terms of ability. Did Keady not operate in the Ulster Senior Championship for a few years? Experience like that would stand to them. That said ive not seen them play for a number of years now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 02, 2016, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: doodaa on November 02, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
I would have put Keady ahead of Carrickmore in terms of ability. Did Keady not operate in the Ulster Senior Championship for a few years? Experience like that would stand to them. That said ive not seen them play for a number of years now.

Not for a while. Middletown are the strongest team in Armagh last few years.  carrickmore won the ulster league this year. Keady were mid table. Still a strong team at this level though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 04:34:23 PM
Congratulations Simon on the all star.  some turn around from fixing games at the start of the year.  while county captain no less  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 08:13:26 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 04:34:23 PM
Congratulations Simon on the all star.  some turn around from fixing games at the start of the year.  while county captain no less  :o

Proof? If not I'd suggest you take this post down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
The whole county knows it no point In denying it. It's a discussion board it's here to be discussed..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
The whole county knows it no point In denying it. It's a discussion board it's here to be discussed..

Yeah discussions that don't include personal accusations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 02, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 02, 2016, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: doodaa on November 02, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
I would have put Keady ahead of Carrickmore in terms of ability. Did Keady not operate in the Ulster Senior Championship for a few years? Experience like that would stand to them. That said ive not seen them play for a number of years now.

Not for a while. Middletown are the strongest team in Armagh last few years.  carrickmore won the ulster league this year. Keady were mid table. Still a strong team at this level though.

Not sure how many of those teams take that Ulster league too seriously. Middletown best of the bunch and they didn't.

Anyhow, good luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 03, 2016, 09:58:45 AM
Quote from: Glensman on November 02, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 02, 2016, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: doodaa on November 02, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
I would have put Keady ahead of Carrickmore in terms of ability. Did Keady not operate in the Ulster Senior Championship for a few years? Experience like that would stand to them. That said ive not seen them play for a number of years now.

Not for a while. Middletown are the strongest team in Armagh last few years.  carrickmore won the ulster league this year. Keady were mid table. Still a strong team at this level though.

Not sure how many of those teams take that Ulster league too seriously. Middletown best of the bunch and they didn't.

Anyhow, good luck.

Cheers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 03, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
The whole county knows it no point In denying it. It's a discussion board it's here to be discussed..

Yeah discussions that don't include personal accusations.
some things just need said. ex manager had a substantial bet on London also, hell I even no members of the county board who had money on London.And people wonder why the county is in the shape it's in. forget the hurling and plant spuds in the pitches I say. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 03, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
The whole county knows it no point In denying it. It's a discussion board it's here to be discussed..

Yeah discussions that don't include personal accusations.
some things just need said. ex manager had a substantial bet on London also, hell I even no members of the county board who had money on London.And people wonder why the county is in the shape it's in. forget the hurling and plant spuds in the pitches I say.

What other words of wisdom do you have?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 03, 2016, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 03, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 03, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 02, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 02, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
The whole county knows it no point In denying it. It's a discussion board it's here to be discussed..

Yeah discussions that don't include personal accusations.
some things just need said. ex manager had a substantial bet on London also, hell I even no members of the county board who had money on London.And people wonder why the county is in the shape it's in. forget the hurling and plant spuds in the pitches I say.

What other words of wisdom do you have?
all in good time PJ.  all in good time mate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 03, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
Simon McCrory accusation is utter nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on November 03, 2016, 11:04:11 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 03, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
Simon McCrory accusation is utter nonsense.
it's a fact it's no accusation. you'd be best knowing the inns and outs of it.half the team and ex manager backed London. embarrassing.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Axe to grind?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on November 06, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
Any word on the make up of the Antrim panel for this year? Any new faces or any players making a comeback??

Any players not committing this year???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 06, 2016, 10:39:55 AM
Things that need said.  You've very obviously got an axe to grind but Antrim Gaa dosent really need any more negative headlines.  Come on Let's try and move things on a bit. I'm sure you can play your part in making something positive happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 06, 2016, 03:24:27 PM
Holy Crap!!!! ......Sarsfields v Ballyea, that was immense. Fair play Ballyea, they never gave up. Tony Kelly was outstanding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 06, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Extra time just starting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2016, 03:50:01 PM
Great game for this time of the year!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 06, 2016, 03:54:05 PM
Padraig Maher just got a hurl broke over his face guard and didn't flinch. (18:00 minutes into et).....frightening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 06, 2016, 03:59:25 PM
That was amazing MR2 ....Ballyea looked beat 3 minutes into injury time. Stunning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2016, 04:02:42 PM
Sardfields have a terrible record outside of the Tipp championship!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 08, 2016, 11:09:37 AM
Big scoreline from dunloy minors in their ulster semi final. looking forward to sunday's final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 09, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Was at the game on sunday, game was over as a contest in 10 mins as we ran up 2-04 to 0-00. Missing a few starters through knocks so to come through unscathed was nice.

Sets up a good final this sunday with Dungiven.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 09, 2016, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Was at the game on sunday, game was over as a contest in 10 mins as we ran up 2-04 to 0-00. Missing a few starters through knocks so to come through unscathed was nice.

Sets up a good final this sunday with Dungiven.

Where is the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 09, 2016, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 09, 2016, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Was at the game on sunday, game was over as a contest in 10 mins as we ran up 2-04 to 0-00. Missing a few starters through knocks so to come through unscathed was nice.

Sets up a good final this sunday with Dungiven.

Where is the final?

All games in ballinascreen, they run the tournament every year similar to St. Paul's and the football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ballinascreengaa/photos/pcb.538812762988345/538813479654940/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/ballinascreengaa/photos/pcb.538812762988345/538813479654940/?type=3&theater)

1pm this Sunday

2 good sides. Hopefully the weather is decent.

Shame it clashes with the Biddies game vs Keady
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 11, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Was at the game on sunday, game was over as a contest in 10 mins as we ran up 2-04 to 0-00. Missing a few starters through knocks so to come through unscathed was nice.

Sets up a good final this sunday with Dungiven.

Our lads weren't at the races, but with only four 18 year olds on the team (and some of them not great)we were in bonus territory on Sunday as they weren't given a hope in hell of coming out of Down.
Of the starting 6 defenders, 5 were U16's with only the centre back in his last year. Our regular fullback was ill the last few weeks and didn't start, but he's another bite at it next year.

We're not getting too concerned about this particular defeat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 11, 2016, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 11, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 09, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Was at the game on sunday, game was over as a contest in 10 mins as we ran up 2-04 to 0-00. Missing a few starters through knocks so to come through unscathed was nice.

Sets up a good final this sunday with Dungiven.

Our lads weren't at the races, but with only four 18 year olds on the team (and some of them not great)we were in bonus territory on Sunday as they weren't given a hope in hell of coming out of Down.
Of the starting 6 defenders, 5 were U16's with only the centre back in his last year. Our regular fullback was ill the last few weeks and didn't start, but he's another bite at it next year.

We're not getting too concerned about this particular defeat.

I was thinking that myself JC that there was a lot of U16's in your starting line out last sunday. If they came out of Down with a minor title and so many young lads in the team it was a good achievement in itself. Some handy lads to be fair despite their youth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
Well done Cloughmills. Was never in any doubt at any stage during the game. Keady were really poor. Cloughmills will need to perform a lot better than today in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 03:20:17 PM
Well done Cloughmills. Was never in any doubt at any stage during the game. Keady were really poor. Cloughmills will need to perform a lot better than today in the final.

Didn't you say cloughmills would have to perform a lot better after the carrickmore game? Cloughmills havnt had to get out of 3rd gear in ulster. Coleraine nowhere near the level of keady or carrickmore and their inactivity this season is not ideal. Not saying cloughmills will stroll but big favourites nonetheless. Assuming the final will be back in owenbeg?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
The final is next Sunday with venue tbc. I'm happy to be wrong that Keady didn't perform much better than Carrickmore. I'm glad an Antrim team are into another Ulster hurling final. That means we've had representation in Junior, intermediate and Senior finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
The final is next Sunday with venue tbc. I'm happy to be wrong that Keady didn't perform much better than Carrickmore. I'm glad an Antrim team are into another Ulster hurling final. That means we've had representation in Junior, intermediate and Senior finals.

Yeah, I was expecting 2 tougher games to be fair. I just hope complacency doesn't set in. Boys are hungry though so fingers crossed. We lost 2012 final so that will serve as extra motivation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
The hunger was evident today. Really physical game. Keady just lacked ability up front. I'd rather have those 2 games (even though they were easy) as preparation than training sessions or friendlies. When Paul McCormick came on late in the game he looked Keady's best forward. He scored from play immediately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 04:31:56 PM
Surprised he didn't get more time but getting on abit I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2016, 04:37:44 PM
Congrats to the young fellas in Dunloy. They've been outstanding all year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 13, 2016, 05:16:08 PM
A great team ......clean sweep!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 05:48:45 PM
Refd Keady last week, they were missing a few of their better players so thought it be an uphill struggle for them today, well done Cloughmills hopefully you get to the All Ireland series and achieve your dreams!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 13, 2016, 05:50:23 PM
Nice to see Dunloy winning Ulster, a great club fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 05:48:45 PM
Refd Keady last week, they were missing a few of their better players so thought it be an uphill struggle for them today, well done Cloughmills hopefully you get to the All Ireland series and achieve your dreams!!

Winning ulster would be great. Considering the Kilkenny intermediate champions were in the Kilkenny senior championship final a few seasons ago and the Waterford champion have the shanahan brothers it certainly may be just a dream ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on November 13, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Ten points from Conal Doherty Cunning in a man of the match display.  Think we will all be hearing a lot more about this lad in the near future. Well done Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 07:42:38 PM
Well done Dunloy and Cloughmills. Hopefully Cmills can push on this time after losing their two previous finals. From talking to a few of their players they're certainly taking nothing for granted and will give Coleraine the same respect they've given every team they've played this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 07:42:38 PM
Well done Dunloy and Cloughmills. Hopefully Cmills can push on this time after losing their two previous finals. From talking to a few of their players they're certainly taking nothing for granted and will give Coleraine the same respect they've given every team they've played this year.
Those Derry teams never give up and are physical, I'd say rusty as feck but Cloughmills are physical themselves. So fight the fight and hopefully the skill sets of the Biddies should win the game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 08:47:27 PM
That's the challenge for any Antrim teams whenever they venture into Ulster and beyond. To match that physicality (within the rules) whilst  not forgetting they are there to play hurling. Certainly Cmills are better set up for this challenge this year esp in the forward line. Some of their forwards would be of the 'chunkier' variety than they had previously!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 08:52:38 PM
Which begs the question why are we physically smaller (in the main) than other counties???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 09:35:36 PM
We shouldn't be really. Maybe it's just down to how we view certain players for certain positions e.g. Small nippy players in corner forward and corner back. There's nearly a third of the team wee squirts to start with! Whereas in Kilkenny nearly the whole team  bar a couple( these two players are normally bad wee b@£t@!£s) are huge! Perhaps a more football mentality of picking  big strong fast players, obviously who can hurl a bit over the smaller more skilful players. How many times have u looked at certain players on county teams and said to yourself he's not built like a county player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2016, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 09:35:36 PM
We shouldn't be really. Maybe it's just down to how we view certain players for certain positions e.g. Small nippy players in corner forward and corner back. There's nearly a third of the team wee squirts to start with! Whereas in Kilkenny nearly the whole team  bar a couple( these two players are normally bad wee b@£t@!£s) are huge! Perhaps a more football mentality of picking  big strong fast players, obviously who can hurl a bit over the smaller more skilful players. How many times have u looked at certain players on county teams and said to yourself he's not built like a county player.

You do have exceptions.. hogan dj and few others
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2016, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 09:35:36 PM
We shouldn't be really. Maybe it's just down to how we view certain players for certain positions e.g. Small nippy players in corner forward and corner back. There's nearly a third of the team wee squirts to start with! Whereas in Kilkenny nearly the whole team  bar a couple( these two players are normally bad wee b@£t@!£s) are huge! Perhaps a more football mentality of picking  big strong fast players, obviously who can hurl a bit over the smaller more skilful players. How many times have u looked at certain players on county teams and said to yourself he's not built like a county player.

I agree with this - always a case of the small fast men are corner forward or corner back on Antrim.

Look at Jackie Tyrell. As big as any man about and one of the best corner backs about over the last 10 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 13, 2016, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 13, 2016, 04:37:44 PM
Congrats to the young fellas in Dunloy. They've been outstanding all year.

Cheers SIE

Went into the game down 4 strong starters due to injury, so it was a well fought victory against a very sticky KL side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 09:35:36 PM
We shouldn't be really. Maybe it's just down to how we view certain players for certain positions e.g. Small nippy players in corner forward and corner back. There's nearly a third of the team wee squirts to start with! Whereas in Kilkenny nearly the whole team  bar a couple( these two players are normally bad wee b@£t@!£s) are huge! Perhaps a more football mentality of picking  big strong fast players, obviously who can hurl a bit over the smaller more skilful players. How many times have u looked at certain players on county teams and said to yourself he's not built like a county player.

A lot of truth there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 13, 2016, 10:24:17 PM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 13, 2016, 08:47:27 PM
That's the challenge for any Antrim teams whenever they venture into Ulster and beyond. To match that physicality (within the rules) whilst  not forgetting they are there to play hurling. Certainly Cmills are better set up for this challenge this year esp in the forward line. Some of their forwards would be of the 'chunkier' variety than they had previously!

Big kinney is a good acquisition. Bar him and cassley there isn't much difference between 8 to 15 from 2012 and this year. This team is hiiting their peak. About 8 or 9 of them are late 20's and been playing together since they were 10 or younger. Really hope they pull it off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 13, 2016, 11:55:46 PM
Coleraine will sneak it by 4 points. They will be too powerful for cloughmills. I doubt cloughmills will have anyone of sean Leo's calibre
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: WTF u on about? on November 14, 2016, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 13, 2016, 11:55:46 PM
Coleraine will sneak it by 4 points. They will be too powerful for cloughmills. I doubt cloughmills will have anyone of sean Leo's calibre

I've been told he's a good player as are a good few on the Coleraine team. Always wondered why they never really took the game seriously within their own county as bar slaughtneil surely they'd be as good or capable of competing with the other derry sides. Maybe just a lack of numbers within a dual club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 12:46:52 AM
Quote from: WTF u on about? on November 14, 2016, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 13, 2016, 11:55:46 PM
Coleraine will sneak it by 4 points. They will be too powerful for cloughmills. I doubt cloughmills will have anyone of sean Leo's calibre

I've been told he's a good player as are a good few on the Coleraine team. Always wondered why they never really took the game seriously within their own county as bar slaughtneil surely they'd be as good or capable of competing with the other derry sides. Maybe just a lack of numbers within a dual club?

Yep numbers.  They have 5 mc goldrick brothers and their cousin niall holly who are all derry county footballers. Plus another 6 or so lads at same level as that. Everyone of them is conditioned to high level. They will be big step up from Keady or Carrickmore.  Cloughmills will need to out hurl them coz they won't out muscle or outrun them. And don't that the last comment fool you either- they can hurl too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 14, 2016, 08:58:03 AM
enjoyable game yesterday in the minor final. Both teams fought for every ball and inch on the pitch. Was a tough physical, but fair contest and a good advertisement for underage hurling in antrim and derry.

Very impressed with our lads missing 4 players to still win a first Ulster title at this level for the club. Both them and the U16 hurlers won everything and went unbeaten all year so it gives us some hope for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 14, 2016, 08:58:03 AM
enjoyable game yesterday in the minor final. Both teams fought for every ball and inch on the pitch. Was a tough physical, but fair contest and a good advertisement for underage hurling in antrim and derry.

Very impressed with our lads missing 4 players to still win a first Ulster title at this level for the club. Both them and the U16 hurlers won everything and went unbeaten all year so it gives us some hope for the future.

I remember watching a game in Dunloy many moons ago when the academy was being built, one clubman said that it was a waste of money, the current underage team are proving him wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 14, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

They have had a few injuries lately. Barry and Sean Leo. Are they back for final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

Forgive my ignorance here please, so they didn't enter their county championship and then decided to play in Ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 14, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 14, 2016, 08:58:03 AM
enjoyable game yesterday in the minor final. Both teams fought for every ball and inch on the pitch. Was a tough physical, but fair contest and a good advertisement for underage hurling in antrim and derry.

Very impressed with our lads missing 4 players to still win a first Ulster title at this level for the club. Both them and the U16 hurlers won everything and went unbeaten all year so it gives us some hope for the future.

I remember watching a game in Dunloy many moons ago when the academy was being built, one clubman said that it was a waste of money, the current underage team are proving him wrong.

i rem a few saying that as well at the time it was being built. It has and will continue to improve the underage players in the club. The current minors would of been the first few groups to avail of it and the coaching time in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 14, 2016, 11:28:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

Forgive my ignorance here please, so they didn't enter their county championship and then decided to play in Ulster?

they had to go to an appeal didnt they to Croke Park to get into the intermediate championship despite not entering wasnt it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 11:29:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 14, 2016, 11:28:04 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

Forgive my ignorance here please, so they didn't enter their county championship and then decided to play in Ulster?

they had to go to an appeal didnt they to Croke Park to get into the intermediate championship despite not entering wasnt it?

Dangerous game to play there is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2016, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 14, 2016, 08:58:03 AM
enjoyable game yesterday in the minor final. Both teams fought for every ball and inch on the pitch. Was a tough physical, but fair contest and a good advertisement for underage hurling in antrim and derry.

Very impressed with our lads missing 4 players to still win a first Ulster title at this level for the club. Both them and the U16 hurlers won everything and went unbeaten all year so it gives us some hope for the future.

I remember watching a game in Dunloy many moons ago when the academy was being built, one clubman said that it was a waste of money, the current underage team are proving him wrong.

Just to keep a sense of balance .... that squad were a very talented group of youngsters at U10 & U12 before the academy was opened. Plenty of teams have won championships without an indoor pitch on their doorstep, so I wouldn't attribute this teams success as being down to that (as much as I'll admit that any affect it would have had was positive)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 14, 2016, 03:09:00 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 14, 2016, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 14, 2016, 08:58:03 AM
enjoyable game yesterday in the minor final. Both teams fought for every ball and inch on the pitch. Was a tough physical, but fair contest and a good advertisement for underage hurling in antrim and derry.

Very impressed with our lads missing 4 players to still win a first Ulster title at this level for the club. Both them and the U16 hurlers won everything and went unbeaten all year so it gives us some hope for the future.

I remember watching a game in Dunloy many moons ago when the academy was being built, one clubman said that it was a waste of money, the current underage team are proving him wrong.

Just to keep a sense of balance .... that squad were a very talented group of youngsters at U10 & U12 before the academy was opened. Plenty of teams have won championships without an indoor pitch on their doorstep, so I wouldn't attribute this teams success as being down to that (as much as I'll admit that any affect it would have had was positive)

Build it and they will come.........

There's no doubting that a facility like that allows you to have teams hurling and have a hurl in their hands all year round, but it still needs the volunteer coaches to make it work as the indoor arena won't be enough on its own.


Well done to Dunloy yesterday, is this the start of a green/gold rising in Antrim and beyond? There does seem to be a lot of the old familiar family names on that team and that always has a positive impact on underage teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 14, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 14, 2016, 07:06:35 AM
Why did they not play in Derry? What was the appeal all about?

They didn't play due to injuries and small numbers and football commitments. Once they are out of the football they concentrate on the hurling.
They didn't play Derry league or championship so were initially barred from Ulster.

Not sure if they are injured tbh. Sean Leo especially would be a big loss. He sweeps up everything. As good as there is in Derry
They have had a few injuries lately. Barry and Sean Leo. Are they back for final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 14, 2016, 05:00:22 PM
Possibly all Change again for 2017. Certainly tidier looking anyway compared to 2016.

Moltai (1)

The Motion propose the following changes to the Antrim Hurling Leagues for the year beginning 2017. 
The main adaptation to the league would see the creation of 3 x 10 team divisions (Divisions 1-3) and a 7 team Division (Division 4). 
In Divisions 1 thru 3 each team would play twice home and away versus each of the other 9 teams, totaling 18 games
In division 4 each team would play each of the other 6 teams 3 times; Home and away and then a split of 3 home v 3 away. To be drawn randomly/decided upon using a fair basis such as using the first stage league standings.  This would total 18 games also.

         
Division 1 (2017)   Division 2 (2017)   Division 3 (2017)   Division 4
(2017)
Loughgiel   Clooney Gaels   Bredagh   Con Magee's
Ruairi Og   Glenariffe   Eoghan Rua   Carryduff
Cuchullains    St Galls    Rasharkin   Davitts
O'D Rossa   Carey Faughs   Ballinascreen   St Agnes'
Ballycran   Creggan    Cushendun   O'Donnell's
Ballycastle   Gort Na Mona   St Pauls   Ballyvarley
Portaferry   Tir Na n'Og   St Teresa's   Loch Mór Dál Cais
St Johns    Armoy   Lamh Dhearg   
Ballygalget   Sarsfields   Shane O'Neill's    
St Brigids    St Endas   Na Magha   
2 x 9 games   2 x 9 games   2 x 9 games   Play each other 3 times. Home, away & to be drawn.

Cumann Naomh Eoin CLG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Here we go again.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2016, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Here we go again.....

Ya never know !! Just when you think its right!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 14, 2016, 08:48:13 PM
What is the longest length of time our hurling league structure has stayed the same?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 14, 2016, 08:48:13 PM
What is the longest length of time our hurling league structure has stayed the same?

Jesus I played senior hurling for tooooo many years and all I've known is change every other year! 3 max
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2016, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Here we go again.....

Ya never know !! Just when you think its right!
And why would St John's look to change the leagues to a ten team Division one??
Anyone got any clues??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2016, 10:20:06 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2016, 08:12:21 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 14, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
Here we go again.....

Ya never know !! Just when you think its right!
And why would St John's look to change the leagues to a ten team Division one??
Anyone got any clues??

Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 15, 2016, 12:09:28 AM
After the year they have just had a stint in Div 2 is exactly what they need, regroup sort their issues out and see if they can come up a as a proper team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2016, 08:37:09 AM
what a shocker, they want to change the league structure again. every year this happens when someone wants to piss around with the set up after seeing something new that they think will work and at the end of the year they see something else and want to try that!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2016, 09:03:43 AM
Ah sure who cares if the hurling leagues are changed this year - because they will be changed again next year anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 15, 2016, 09:12:40 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.

I was talking to a Portaferry hurler the other night and he wasn't overly excited about going into Div2 for the year, I made the flippant comment that "sure you never know, with the Johnnies going down with you, there's always a chance of a change to the league".

Lo and behold, along comes this motion..

When would any fixtures secretary be able to squeeze in 18 games considering the bother getting 14 played this year?

If you want to go to a 10 team league, with the mismatches in that, all teams play each other once then split the league, top 5 play off and bottom 5 play off to avoid relegation.

It would still be 14 games, but at least the mismatches are kept to a minimum..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2016, 10:35:30 AM
Personally think the 8 team league worked better for the clubs involved in Div 1. 14 games along with all the other competitions is plenty. All games were very competitive.

An extra 4 games is asking a lot from dual clubs especially when you consider the fines imposed for not playing fixtures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2016, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.

County football final venue?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 15, 2016, 10:58:55 AM
Was there decision made on The intermediate Ulster final, the Ulster website have it 20/27th November with no venue or other details
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2016, 11:00:20 AM
It was down for cushendall but their pitch wasn't playable due to work being done on it so they needed to refix I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2016, 11:25:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

An often well choreographed show of hands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 15, 2016, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: Hand up on November 15, 2016, 12:09:28 AM
After the year they have just had a stint in Div 2 is exactly what they need, regroup sort their issues out and see if they can come up a as a proper team.

Totally disagree with this comment. I've also heard rumours of them entering intermediate cship next year.

What real benefit does that provide to a great club like St Johns??? They should be able to sort their issues out (whatever they are, i don't know the details) and hurl competitively in div 1 and senior cship. They got relegated, that's life. They need to give themselves a shake and push on in 2017 with their aspirations being regaining division 1 status and really competing/threatening the big 4 in senior cship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 15, 2016, 01:56:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2016, 11:00:20 AM
It was down for cushendall but their pitch wasn't playable due to work being done on it so they needed to refix I think.
Ulster website has it down for 20th November in Cushendall but seen on Curly's Facebook page last night that Ruairi's were fixing their goalmouths and it wasn't available. Sure it's only the intermediate hurling...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2016, 02:15:11 PM
What other alternatives is there in Antrim? Dunloy closed, Ballycastle closed and Loughiel more or less a home venue for the biddies. Glenravel? Ahoghill?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
Does it have to be in antrim? Should it not be a neutral venue?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2016, 02:25:43 PM
Ballymena
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 15, 2016, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
Does it have to be in antrim? Should it not be a neutral venue?

I was wondering that myself, the only logic I can think is an Antrim venue would provide the most neutrals attending.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 15, 2016, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 15, 2016, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
Does it have to be in antrim? Should it not be a neutral venue?

I was wondering that myself, the only logic I can think is an Antrim venue would provide the most neutrals attending.

Surely Owenbeg is the obvious choice, covered stand and all that??

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 15, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
It was a coin toss I believe and the biddies won the toss.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 15, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on November 15, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
It was a coin toss I believe and the biddies won the toss.

Correct. It's in Antrim. I think it will be Armoy or ballymena.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2016, 08:01:47 PM
Casement??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2016, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???

How do you think Glenavy will vote on that proposal by the Johnnies??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 15, 2016, 09:21:52 PM
In my eyes Division one should be 8 teams. It's a farce that St John's have made that proposal just because they were a mess!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 15, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
Final confirmed for ballymena folks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on November 15, 2016, 10:08:54 PM
 The amendments to the under age transfer rules are very concerning
"The reply will be considered by CCC who will then adjudicate in consultation as appropriate with the Health and Wellbeing committee upon the transfer application
·    The CCC will then adjudicate upon the transfer as per the requirements of the current Treorai Oifigiuil the by laws"

This will be open season for young players to leave clubs because their well being and self esteem is being affected negatively

The health professionals will be content to complete  a report to back this up.

This is nt an exceptionality clause. That is fit for purpose.  It is a cope out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 15, 2016, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 15, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
Final confirmed for ballymena folks.

Terrible venue. Armoy has much better facilities.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 15, 2016, 10:28:16 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2016, 10:08:54 PM
The amendments to the under age transfer rules are very concerning
"The reply will be considered by CCC who will then adjudicate in consultation as appropriate with the Health and Wellbeing committee upon the transfer application
·    The CCC will then adjudicate upon the transfer as per the requirements of the current Treorai Oifigiuil the by laws"

This will be open season for young players to leave clubs because their well being and self esteem is being affected negatively

The health professionals will be content to complete  a report to back this up.

This is nt an exceptionality clause. That is fit for purpose.  It is a cope out.

I understand your underlying concern but GAA rules are a stop gap here.
The bottom line is that any visit to civil courts will be sufficient to force an underage transfer.
Such rules are an attempt to make transfers less prevalent but if an underage players or his parents want the transfer they'll get it legally.
After all look at the examples set by our senior intercounty players & officials rushing to civil courts when things don't go their way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on November 15, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
I accept that point...and it is important to keep in perspective the number of transfers per year.

However 2 things cut me about it..the super clubs never come calling for you run of the mill player...it your best players that they hoover up and spit out later on

And I'm sure that well known gaa personality is linking his lips of the prospect of supporting applications to join the malone road brigade......

It hits the smaller clubs hardest ...some maybe with 10 years investment into a players development... gone because someone wants to play with their friends/ chase medals

That's how it is I suppose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2016, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 15, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
Final confirmed for ballymena folks.

Brutal place for Ulster Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on November 16, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???
Let's exclude Moneyglass, Glenavy & Portglenone from the vote then....either way, it's still not Collie Donnelly's decision, which was my point.
I appreciate that this won't stop people saying it was if the Johnnies motion passes. But sure...

What would have changed in the year from Cushendalls (amended) motion two years ago to reduce the league to 8 teams that makes people think that all of a sudden a 10 team is the way to go?

Also,
  To prevent these kneejerk motions there needs to be a bye law or rule that motions of this particular nature need a lying year to allow teams to plan accordingly.
Its a nonsense to play in a league with a certain promotion/relegation set up only for it to change in the winter months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 16, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
You could make it that you would bring up Ballygalget, the biddies and clooney gaels, and still have St Johns go down. That way St Johns couldn't be accused of purposing for selfish reasons, but rather for the greater good of Antrim hurling  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 16, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 16, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
You could make it that you would bring up Ballygalget, the biddies and clooney gaels, and still have St Johns go down. That way St Johns couldn't be accused of purposing for selfish reasons, but rather for the greater good of Antrim hurling  :P

Or

we could leave the leagues alone for about 5 years and allow the normal one up, one down dictate the natural order of things...........................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 16, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???
Let's exclude Moneyglass, Glenavy & Portglenone from the vote then....either way, it's still not Collie Donnelly's decision, which was my point.
I appreciate that this won't stop people saying it was if the Johnnies motion passes. But sure...

What would have changed in the year from Cushendalls (amended) motion two years ago to reduce the league to 8 teams that makes people think that all of a sudden a 10 team is the way to go?

Also,
  To prevent these kneejerk motions there needs to be a bye law or rule that motions of this particular nature need a lying year to allow teams to plan accordingly.
Its a nonsense to play in a league with a certain promotion/relegation set up only for it to change in the winter months.

Valid in theory JC - but the reality is that bye-laws can be changed at Convention. So any such law is just immediately over-ruled so to speak. It's happened before. Many times.

St Johns want this through to stay up. If people are serious about ending the constant to-and-fro of league structures - then the solution is to vote against it. However the County Chairman may use his influence to secure enough votes for the motion. Democracy is a funny game recently isn't it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 16, 2016, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 16, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???
Let's exclude Moneyglass, Glenavy & Portglenone from the vote then....either way, it's still not Collie Donnelly's decision, which was my point.
I appreciate that this won't stop people saying it was if the Johnnies motion passes. But sure...

What would have changed in the year from Cushendalls (amended) motion two years ago to reduce the league to 8 teams that makes people think that all of a sudden a 10 team is the way to go?

Also,
  To prevent these kneejerk motions there needs to be a bye law or rule that motions of this particular nature need a lying year to allow teams to plan accordingly.
Its a nonsense to play in a league with a certain promotion/relegation set up only for it to change in the winter months.

Valid in theory JC - but the reality is that bye-laws can be changed at Convention. So any such law is just immediately over-ruled so to speak. It's happened before. Many times.

St Johns want this through to stay up. If people are serious about ending the constant to-and-fro of league structures - then the solution is to vote against it. However the County Chairman may use his influence to secure enough votes for the motion. Democracy is a funny game recently isn't it.

Can everyone spread the word to your club members who will be voting on these motions and ensure that any changes to hurling league structures are voted against. Complete f**king circus every year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 16, 2016, 02:09:24 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 16, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: podge on November 15, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 15, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Tester for the new Chairman here.

St Johns have been a team in trouble for a number of years and they havent corrected it themselves, not now up to the county to do so.
Club delegates undertake a show of hands to decide this.

..with delegates from the likes of Moneyglass, Glenavy, Portglenone and other such hurling hotbets having equal votes to those directly affected.

I suppose you could argue that they are therefore more impartial on the issue and don't just have a look around them and see what some of their cronies think and follow suit ???
Let's exclude Moneyglass, Glenavy & Portglenone from the vote then....either way, it's still not Collie Donnelly's decision, which was my point.
I appreciate that this won't stop people saying it was if the Johnnies motion passes. But sure...

What would have changed in the year from Cushendalls (amended) motion two years ago to reduce the league to 8 teams that makes people think that all of a sudden a 10 team is the way to go?

Also,
  To prevent these kneejerk motions there needs to be a bye law or rule that motions of this particular nature need a lying year to allow teams to plan accordingly.
Its a nonsense to play in a league with a certain promotion/relegation set up only for it to change in the winter months.

However the County Chairman may (or may not) use his influence to secure enough votes for the motion. Democracy is a funny game recently isn't it.
Is there any substance to this comment or are you just throwing it out there?


Maybe (or maybe not) that's more politically correct!
I'm not sure what substance you talk of - sure we'll only know that in time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2016, 09:11:06 PM
Quote from: Usain on November 16, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 16, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
You could make it that you would bring up Ballygalget, the biddies and clooney gaels, and still have St Johns go down. That way St Johns couldn't be accused of purposing for selfish reasons, but rather for the greater good of Antrim hurling  :P

Or

we could leave the leagues alone for about 5 years and allow the normal one up, one down dictate the natural order of things...........................

Should always be two two down, no reason why footballers have it that way, why have it different?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2016, 09:11:06 PM
Quote from: Usain on November 16, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 16, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
You could make it that you would bring up Ballygalget, the biddies and clooney gaels, and still have St Johns go down. That way St Johns couldn't be accused of purposing for selfish reasons, but rather for the greater good of Antrim hurling  :P

Or

we could leave the leagues alone for about 5 years and allow the normal one up, one down dictate the natural order of things...........................

Should always be two two down, no reason why footballers have it that way, why have it different?

Bottom team down - top team up.
2 bottom and top - neutral play off.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 16, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.

It won't happen. Coleraine will bully them not the other way about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 17, 2016, 07:45:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 16, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.

It won't happen. Coleraine will bully them not the other way about.

Seen much of cloughmills this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 16, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.

It won't happen. Coleraine will bully them not the other way about.

Would take a brave man to try to bully any of that C'Mills team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 17, 2016, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

Anti GAA? the lads just want to hurl ffs - can't get any more GAA than that. Remember there are members of that club who don't play football. Realistically, they're not going to win a Derry SHC so this is their best bet for silverware and it is their level after the won the ulster junior recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
They were supposed to enter the intermediate this year anyway as it was Na Magha's year to enter the junior championship. They chose not to enter it, got beat in the football (i was at it and they were very poor that day) and then decided they wanted into the hurling again.

It was their right to enter it and likewise not to enter it but they shouldnt of had it both ways that they can pick and choose when they entered it. The fact they had to go to the highest level to be allowed to enter shows it was their last option and lucky to get back in.

As you say link they have hurlers who dont play football but to me it shows the lack of interest in the game itself that they choose not enter it. Just because they might not win a championship doesn't mean they should just loose interest in the game.

Many clubs in ulster would love to be able to compete in the ulster intermediate cship and have to win their right to do so, its not handed on a plate each year to simply turn up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 17, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: Link on November 17, 2016, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

Anti GAA? the lads just want to hurl ffs - can't get any more GAA than that. Remember there are members of that club who don't play football. Realistically, they're not going to win a Derry SHC so this is their best bet for silverware and it is their level after the won the ulster junior recently.

And the teams who have trained hard and hurled all year????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 17, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 16, 2016, 10:02:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2016, 09:11:06 PM
Quote from: Usain on November 16, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 16, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
You could make it that you would bring up Ballygalget, the biddies and clooney gaels, and still have St Johns go down. That way St Johns couldn't be accused of purposing for selfish reasons, but rather for the greater good of Antrim hurling  :P

Or

we could leave the leagues alone for about 5 years and allow the normal one up, one down dictate the natural order of things...........................

Should always be two two down, no reason why footballers have it that way, why have it different?

Bottom team down - top team up.
2 bottom and top - neutral play off.

Now that would be a decent motion to bring forward. Not this complete restructuring of the leagues every year.

The 8 team leagues are adequate and some teams still playing matches in October so why would we add in another 4 games??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 17, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 16, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.

It won't happen. Coleraine will bully them not the other way about.

No harm to you Fear Bun, Coleraine will get a hammering on Sunday. Cmills are an excellent side just ready to peak at the right time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 17, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
They were supposed to enter the intermediate this year anyway as it was Na Magha's year to enter the junior championship. They chose not to enter it, got beat in the football (i was at it and they were very poor that day) and then decided they wanted into the hurling again.

It was their right to enter it and likewise not to enter it but they shouldnt of had it both ways that they can pick and choose when they entered it. The fact they had to go to the highest level to be allowed to enter shows it was their last option and lucky to get back in.

As you say link they have hurlers who dont play football but to me it shows the lack of interest in the game itself that they choose not enter it. Just because they might not win a championship doesn't mean they should just loose interest in the game.

Many clubs in ulster would love to be able to compete in the ulster intermediate cship and have to win their right to do so, its not handed on a plate each year to simply turn up


On point as per usual DR.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 17, 2016, 10:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
They were supposed to enter the intermediate this year anyway as it was Na Magha's year to enter the junior championship. They chose not to enter it, got beat in the football (i was at it and they were very poor that day) and then decided they wanted into the hurling again.

It was their right to enter it and likewise not to enter it but they shouldnt of had it both ways that they can pick and choose when they entered it. The fact they had to go to the highest level to be allowed to enter shows it was their last option and lucky to get back in.

As you say link they have hurlers who dont play football but to me it shows the lack of interest in the game itself that they choose not enter it. Just because they might not win a championship doesn't mean they should just loose interest in the game.

Many clubs in ulster would love to be able to compete in the ulster intermediate cship and have to win their right to do so, its not handed on a plate each year to simply turn up

Agree, they should have fielded in the Derry SHC.

Previously, entrance into Ulster Intermediate or Junior hurling championships WAS handed on a plate to Na Magha and Coleraine. From my knowledge, it was a play off, losers junior, winners intermediate. Coleraine have already won the Junior recently so entrance into Intermediate makes sense. Ulster hurling was guaranteed win or lose, I think this should still be the case for Na Magha and Coleraine. Na Magha didn't win their right to enter the Junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2016, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: Link on November 17, 2016, 10:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
They were supposed to enter the intermediate this year anyway as it was Na Magha's year to enter the junior championship. They chose not to enter it, got beat in the football (i was at it and they were very poor that day) and then decided they wanted into the hurling again.

It was their right to enter it and likewise not to enter it but they shouldnt of had it both ways that they can pick and choose when they entered it. The fact they had to go to the highest level to be allowed to enter shows it was their last option and lucky to get back in.

As you say link they have hurlers who dont play football but to me it shows the lack of interest in the game itself that they choose not enter it. Just because they might not win a championship doesn't mean they should just loose interest in the game.

Many clubs in ulster would love to be able to compete in the ulster intermediate cship and have to win their right to do so, its not handed on a plate each year to simply turn up

Agree, they should have fielded in the Derry SHC.

Previously, entrance into Ulster Intermediate or Junior hurling championships WAS handed on a plate to Na Magha and Coleraine. From my knowledge, it was a play off, losers junior, winners intermediate. Coleraine have already won the Junior recently so entrance into Intermediate makes sense. Ulster hurling was guaranteed win or lose, I think this should still be the case for Na Magha and Coleraine. Na Magha didn't win their right to enter the Junior.

That's not exactly accurate. They used to both play off for the junior. It ran as a separate championship to the Derry Intermediate, but both teams would have been in that also. The winners of the junior playoff went into Ulster, I think that happened for 2 years with each winning one each.
The intermediate was those 2 clubs plus reserve team but didn't have any bearing on entry to Ulster.

Then a decision was made to rotate entry to Ulster junior without a playoff, and subsequently this rotation later brought the junior/intermediate aspect into the equation.

In reality tbh Coleraine are intermediate(senior if they were hurling only), NM are junior.

Neither club have ever asked for or had any influence on the decision.

Derry removed the junior and intermediate option 3 years ago from both clubs. They were asked to enter Derry senior or not play anything(remember NM have to go to Antrim to get games at their level)

NM who are registered as a junior club(and clearly are as they have never won Ulster despite appraeing in 2 finals) were asked to enter Derry senior or not play any championship. They entered it this year and were beat by 50 points in first round, Coleraine didn't play.

I understand some peoples frustrations with this from other counties but clubs like ER and NM don't have any chance of keeping lads hurling without competition at their own level.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 17, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
Na Magha and Coleraine have played in the Ulster Junior and Intermediate Championship in alternate years. There was never a play off to determine which club played in which championship.

That changed last year when Coleraine won the Ulster JHC and lost narrowly in the All Ireland JHC Final v Glenmore.

I wouldn't rule out their chances v The Biddies though.

Na Magha and Coleraine have had to enter the Derry SHC as a result of Derry running a half arsed Intermediate / Reserve Hurling Championship.

Obviously the step up to senior is a massive difference with both teams suffering defeats versus senior opposition.

Coleraine didn't field in the Derry SHC as a result of football commitments etc. I thought a team had to play in their own county championship in order to play provincial.

As usual Ulster appear to have fudged the issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 17, 2016, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2016, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: Link on November 17, 2016, 10:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 09:44:18 AM
They were supposed to enter the intermediate this year anyway as it was Na Magha's year to enter the junior championship. They chose not to enter it, got beat in the football (i was at it and they were very poor that day) and then decided they wanted into the hurling again.

It was their right to enter it and likewise not to enter it but they shouldnt of had it both ways that they can pick and choose when they entered it. The fact they had to go to the highest level to be allowed to enter shows it was their last option and lucky to get back in.

As you say link they have hurlers who dont play football but to me it shows the lack of interest in the game itself that they choose not enter it. Just because they might not win a championship doesn't mean they should just loose interest in the game.

Many clubs in ulster would love to be able to compete in the ulster intermediate cship and have to win their right to do so, its not handed on a plate each year to simply turn up

Agree, they should have fielded in the Derry SHC.

Previously, entrance into Ulster Intermediate or Junior hurling championships WAS handed on a plate to Na Magha and Coleraine. From my knowledge, it was a play off, losers junior, winners intermediate. Coleraine have already won the Junior recently so entrance into Intermediate makes sense. Ulster hurling was guaranteed win or lose, I think this should still be the case for Na Magha and Coleraine. Na Magha didn't win their right to enter the Junior.

That's not exactly accurate. They used to both play off for the junior. It ran as a separate championship to the Derry Intermediate, but both teams would have been in that also. The winners of the junior playoff went into Ulster, I think that happened for 2 years with each winning one each.
The intermediate was those 2 clubs plus reserve team but didn't have any bearing on entry to Ulster.

Then a decision was made to rotate entry to Ulster junior without a playoff, and subsequently this rotation later brought the junior/intermediate aspect into the equation.

In reality tbh Coleraine are intermediate(senior if they were hurling only), NM are junior.

Neither club have ever asked for or had any influence on the decision.

Derry removed the junior and intermediate option 3 years ago from both clubs. They were asked to enter Derry senior or not play anything(remember NM have to go to Antrim to get games at their level)

NM who are registered as a junior club(and clearly are as they have never won Ulster despite appraeing in 2 finals) were asked to enter Derry senior or not play any championship. They entered it this year and were beat by 50 points in first round, Coleraine didn't play.

I understand some peoples frustrations with this from other counties but clubs like ER and NM don't have any chance of keeping lads hurling without competition at their own level.

Thanks for explaining how it previously was.

Your last point sums up my feelings on this. Automatic Ulster Intermediate and Junior entry should be applied for ER and NM to keep these lads hurling unless it ever comes to a stage were one of these clubs become competitive with the rest of Derry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2016, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: Usain on November 17, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 16, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 16, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
Maybe Coleraine will appeal that decision also.

They got off lightly (discussion wise) on here. I'm sure they'll argue by GAA rules they were within their right to do so. But ethically their decision is horrible and very much anti GAA.

I hope Cloughmills hammer them out the gate. Shame on them.

I'm the same. I really hope they get tanked. Disgraceful what they've done.

It won't happen. Coleraine will bully them not the other way about.

No harm to you Fear Bun, Coleraine will get a hammering on Sunday. Cmills are an excellent side just ready to peak at the right time.

Id say Cmills defs better hurling team, but if you watched AIJF last year Coleraine brought a far better hurling team (Glenmore) down to their level with physicality.

TBF I haven't seen Cloughmills in a while but their league standings are impressive and I have heard good things about them. They have come a long way and have become a real force at this level, our club would love to be in their position. and have their players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 11:38:31 AM
its been rotated this past number of years that one goes to the junior and vise-versa. I honeslty think it detracts from the teams who have to win their respective championships to gain entry.

Coleraine lost an All Ireland junior club final last year and the following year decide not to enter the intermediate championship? to me thats very surprising.

i cant locate the derry hurling championship results online so i dont know how they fared in it, anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 17, 2016, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 11:38:31 AM
its been rotated this past number of years that one goes to the junior and vise-versa. I honeslty think it detracts from the teams who have to win their respective championships to gain entry.

Coleraine lost an All Ireland junior club final last year and the following year decide not to enter the intermediate championship? to me thats very surprising.

i cant locate the derry hurling championship results online so i dont know how they fared in it, anyone know?

There is no Derry Intermediate or Junior championship anymore!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 17, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
i know that, i see above that NM got hammered and Coleraine didnt enter this year.

Begs the question as to how they are in the Ulsters now? bit of a hash
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 17, 2016, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
i know that, i see above that NM got hammered and Coleraine didnt enter this year.

Begs the question as to how they are in the Ulsters now? bit of a hash

Hurling at that level in Derry is just surviving. It's not good enough. As much as I respect ER for making some sort of effort I think Derry as a county don't deserve a place in the Ulster Junior/Intermediate  Championship. Look at what Cloughmills have had to do to get to this Sunday. Intermediate Championship  in Antrim is much tougher to come through than Senior.  Cloughmills fully deserve to be where they are! Do ER?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 17, 2016, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 17, 2016, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
i know that, i see above that NM got hammered and Coleraine didnt enter this year.

Begs the question as to how they are in the Ulsters now? bit of a hash

Hurling at that level in Derry is just surviving. It's not good enough. As much as I respect ER for making some sort of effort I think Derry as a county don't deserve a place in the Ulster Junior/Intermediate  Championship. Look at what Cloughmills have had to do to get to this Sunday. Intermediate Championship  in Antrim is much tougher to come through than Senior.  Cloughmills fully deserve to be where they are! Do ER?

Not to mention a qualifier. Coleraine at the very least should have had to play that additional game. Effectively they have had 1 competitive game to get to an ulster final. Cloughmills have had 5. That additional game would have no doubt benefitted coleraine in their preparations for a final. That's if they'd have progressed obviously. Nonetheless, still expect a very competitive match come Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 17, 2016, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 17, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
i know that, i see above that NM got hammered and Coleraine didnt enter this year.

Begs the question as to how they are in the Ulsters now? bit of a hash

Hurling at that level in Derry is just surviving. It's not good enough. As much as I respect ER for making some sort of effort I think Derry as a county don't deserve a place in the Ulster Junior/Intermediate  Championship. Look at what Cloughmills have had to do to get to this Sunday. Intermediate Championship  in Antrim is much tougher to come through than Senior.  Cloughmills fully deserve to be where they are! Do ER?

You are right it is just surviving at the minute. Na Magha only got a pitch in 2010 and a clubhouse this year. If they are allowed to grow by getting competition that suits them they will outgrow junior eventually and become competitive within Derry, they are a hurling club who have good men involved and are looking forward.
Antrim League and Ulster Junior are their lifeblood. They field in every game in Antrim and Derry (despite knowing that in Derry there is no competitive level for them). They deserve help.

I cant speak for ER but know that they struggle with numbers and are making big efforts to keep both codes alive



ER are different in that they have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 20, 2016, 02:29:44 PM
Congrats to the Biddies. Some crowd about the cornerhouse the night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
Poor enough game with the pitch and conditions. 2 very soft goals for coleraine makes the score look close but in reality cloughmills were better all over the pitch. Ref was soft on an over physical coleraine side and kept coleraine in the game with some strange decisions. Not at our best today but happy to win nonetheless. Tough game but best team won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
Poor enough game with the pitch and conditions. 2 very soft goals for coleraine makes the score look close but in reality cloughmills were better all over the pitch. Ref was soft on an over physical coleraine side and kept coleraine in the game with some strange decisions. Not at our best today but happy to win nonetheless. Tough game but best team won.

What was the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
1-11 - 2-6. takeaway the 2 soft goals they only got 6 points. 2. Goals came from 60m frees. Fog caught cmills keeper out twice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
1-11 - 2-6. takeaway the 2 soft goals they only got 6 points. 2. Goals came from 60m frees. Fog caught cmills keeper out twice.

Two soft goals on the telly today meant the O'Loughlin gaels went through to final! Fog for both teams no?

2 point win is the same as 100 point win, well done and now time to prepare for the next game, which is against who??

Coleraine were always going to be physical, won't get any easier come the All Ireland series so good to get a game like that banked!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
1-11 - 2-6. takeaway the 2 soft goals they only got 6 points. 2. Goals came from 60m frees. Fog caught cmills keeper out twice.

Two soft goals on the telly today meant the O'Loughlin gaels went through to final! Fog for both teams no?

2 point win is the same as 100 point win, well done and now time to prepare for the next game, which is against who??

Coleraine were always going to be physical, won't get any easier come the All Ireland series so good to get a game like that banked!!

English champions in January. winnable but with richie power awaiting in semi that could be as far as we go. This was the target though. Anything else a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
1-11 - 2-6. takeaway the 2 soft goals they only got 6 points. 2. Goals came from 60m frees. Fog caught cmills keeper out twice.

Two soft goals on the telly today meant the O'Loughlin gaels went through to final! Fog for both teams no?

2 point win is the same as 100 point win, well done and now time to prepare for the next game, which is against who??

Coleraine were always going to be physical, won't get any easier come the All Ireland series so good to get a game like that banked!!

English champions in January. winnable but with richie power awaiting in semi that could be as far as we go. This was the target though. Anything else a bonus.

One player! but hey a fecking marvelous player, played against him at Milltown when he was playing for an Engineering firm in the interfirms competition, destroyed us from midfield... Youse get a look at them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2016, 06:50:17 PM
If he is playing then presumably his brother john will be too who isn't exactly shabby...

Well done to cloughmills.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Congrats to the biddies on a good win today. They are a good bunch of lads & had a great season. Antrim & Ulster champions & promoted to Division 1.

The QF definitely in January?
Carrickshock only in Leinster Final against Bray. Richie & John Power, Michael Rice & John Tennyson too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:57:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 06:15:26 PM
1-11 - 2-6. takeaway the 2 soft goals they only got 6 points. 2. Goals came from 60m frees. Fog caught cmills keeper out twice.

Two soft goals on the telly today meant the O'Loughlin gaels went through to final! Fog for both teams no?

2 point win is the same as 100 point win, well done and now time to prepare for the next game, which is against who??

Coleraine were always going to be physical, won't get any easier come the All Ireland series so good to get a game like that banked!!

English champions in January. winnable but with richie power awaiting in semi that could be as far as we go. This was the target though. Anything else a bonus.

One player! but hey a fecking marvelous player, played against him at Milltown when he was playing for an Engineering firm in the interfirms competition, destroyed us from midfield... Youse get a look at them?

Dont think so. Their final was yesterday. Beat a Kildare team by a couple of points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Congrats to the biddies on a good win today. They are a good bunch of lads & had a great season. Antrim & Ulster champions & promoted to Division 1.

The QF definitely in January?
Carrickshock only in Leinster Final against Bray. Richie & John Power, Michael Rice & John Tennyson too.

Thanks for that reminder 😩 Yes weekend of 14th Jan. Don't know much about Robert emmetts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Congrats to the biddies on a good win today. They are a good bunch of lads & had a great season. Antrim & Ulster champions & promoted to Division 1.

The QF definitely in January?
Carrickshock only in Leinster Final against Bray. Richie & John Power, Michael Rice & John Tennyson too.

Impressive line up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Helix on November 20, 2016, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Congrats to the biddies on a good win today. They are a good bunch of lads & had a great season. Antrim & Ulster champions & promoted to Division 1.

The QF definitely in January?
Carrickshock only in Leinster Final against Bray. Richie & John Power, Michael Rice & John Tennyson too.

Carrickshock are playing Celbridge of Kildare in a Leinster final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 21, 2016, 08:20:58 AM
Yes well done Cloughmills. That looked like a tough game, thought Coleraine would sneak it but looks like cmills extra hurling proved the difference with a great spread of scores.
I've been defending ER on here and I'll stick to that as I think at least some of their management and players are genuine but I have to say C McGoldricks interview in the Gaelic Life was very disappointing and gave the detractors all the ammo they needed. You couldn't view him in the same way as slaughtneils  or ballyeas players in terms of outlook- well at least not based on the interview
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 21, 2016, 08:41:04 AM
terrible conditions to watch a match in yesterday, was great if you were at one end of the pitch as you could see what was going on lol

Cloughmills did all the hurling but couldnt put coleraine away which was always going to be problem. shot some poor wides from scorable positions but in saying that they kept coleraine at arms lenght all the time.

Was happy to see the biddies win, well deserved for so many fellas who have put so much into hurling in Cloughmills.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 21, 2016, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 20, 2016, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
Congrats to the biddies on a good win today. They are a good bunch of lads & had a great season. Antrim & Ulster champions & promoted to Division 1.

The QF definitely in January?
Carrickshock only in Leinster Final against Bray. Richie & John Power, Michael Rice & John Tennyson too.

Thanks for that reminder 😩 Yes weekend of 14th Jan. Don't know much about Robert emmetts

You never really know what your going to get with the London teams from year to year with players coming and going all the time. They won an all Ireland Intermediate in '07 I think, so will know their way around in terms of preparation etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 21, 2016, 01:27:39 PM
Hateful conditions for a game that should have been played a few weeks ago but sure... Biddies as expected had too much hurling for all ERs physicality and spoiling. ER certainly disrupted the usual Biddies system but were fairly toothless when it came down to it. Its not for everyone hurling at this time of the year and hopefully they acquire more of a taste for it than the London men.
I wasn't all that impressed with Kilburn Gaels last year and Cloughmills would be well able to progress if thats the level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 21, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
Bookies have emmetts as 3rd favs above the Galway team and ourselves. A very strong Rossa team only heat Kilburn by couple of points 2 years ago. It will be our toughest game to date but like what people have said you just don't know with London teams. Anyway worry about that in Jan...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2016, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 21, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
Bookies have emmetts as 3rd favs above the Galway team and ourselves. A very strong Rossa team only heat Kilburn by couple of points 2 years ago. It will be our toughest game to date but like what people have said you just don't know with London teams. Anyway worry about that in Jan...

Enjoy the celebrations and the worry of booking floodlit pitches during December.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on November 21, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2016, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on November 21, 2016, 01:39:48 PM
Bookies have emmetts as 3rd favs above the Galway team and ourselves. A very strong Rossa team only heat Kilburn by couple of points 2 years ago. It will be our toughest game to date but like what people have said you just don't know with London teams. Anyway worry about that in Jan...

Enjoy the celebrations and the worry of booking floodlit pitches during December.

👍 Thankfully we have a good relationship with a few clubs with that facility.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 24, 2016, 11:14:52 AM
Any news on the county panel for next year yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 25, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
they are training away at the moment, out last night as far as i know. seems to be a fair few training at the moment with them. Shortys back training with them which is great to see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on November 25, 2016, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 25, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
they are training away at the moment, out last night as far as i know. seems to be a fair few training at the moment with them. Shortys back training with them which is great to see

Really? His call I suppose  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 25, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
I'd love to see them win the National League and Christy Ring. Our county needs a boost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 25, 2016, 09:54:54 PM
Who's taking the team is it still sambo woody Peden and okane?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 26, 2016, 11:39:41 AM
Yeah, same management team more or less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 28, 2016, 05:03:42 PM
There's a real apathy about the county at the minute with regards to senior hurling management. So many clubs have little expression of interest from persons willing to take on the role. I'm sure there are different reasons in each club. It's a shame we need good men to drive these teams on.

We'll know the vast majority of management teams over the next 2 weeks or so. Will be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2016, 10:02:56 AM
do you mean for the club sides hurlingstick?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 29, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Yeah DR .....I'm aware of 3 or 4 good clubs struggling to fill the vacancy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 30, 2016, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 29, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Yeah DR .....I'm aware of 3 or 4 good clubs struggling to fill the vacancy.

I've heard that Ballycastle don't have anyone interested in the job. That is stunning to say the least. Large club like that which should be pushing on for a senior cship with the talent they have at their disposal. Final appearance only two years ago. What's going on here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 30, 2016, 10:46:32 AM
Quote from: Usain on November 30, 2016, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 29, 2016, 10:35:51 AM
Yeah DR .....I'm aware of 3 or 4 good clubs struggling to fill the vacancy.

I've heard that Ballycastle don't have anyone interested in the job. That is stunning to say the least. Large club like that which should be pushing on for a senior cship with the talent they have at their disposal. Final appearance only two years ago. What's going on here?
.

Clubs and players have a lot to answer for...there is an unjustified sense of entitlement and expectation in todays generation that makes the life of the volunteer club manager far less rewarding.
There is little or no appreciation for the sacrafices that have to be made to fulfill the role so the days of the paid manager are only around the corner as much as i hate the thought of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 30, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
A father sent his child to shake my hand and say thank you for the season at the end of the summer. It meant the world to me. Another child in the club who I've been picking up from his door for three years to bring to matches, His mother has never thanked me once.

Clubs need to instill proper attitudes in players right from the beginning. Ultimately they learn more from attitudes at home. Once they hit 14/15 their friends are their biggest influence and therefore the more children with the correct attitude and discipline the greater chance of success in a club.

Some clubs focus on a few star players at underage and end up suffering at senior level as a result. Those players think they've an entitlement and become spoilt because they got away with certain behaviours. Clubs need to be inclusive now - every child matters and plays. These are the future players and volunteers of the club. If they were brought up with the right principles they'll pass those on.

Sadly too many people disagree with this line of thinking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 30, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
A father sent his child to shake my hand and say thank you for the season at the end of the summer. It meant the world to me. Another child in the club who I've been picking up from his door for three years to bring to matches, His mother has never thanked me once.

Clubs need to instill proper attitudes in players right from the beginning. Ultimately they learn more from attitudes at home. Once they hit 14/15 their friends are their biggest influence and therefore the more children with the correct attitude and discipline the greater chance of success in a club.

Some clubs focus on a few star players at underage and end up suffering at senior level as a result. Those players think they've an entitlement and become spoilt because they got away with certain behaviours. Clubs need to be inclusive now - every child matters and plays. These are the future players and volunteers of the club. If they were brought up with the right principles they'll pass those on.

Sadly too many people disagree with this line of thinking.

You should tell your wife to bring him instead  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on November 30, 2016, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2016, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 30, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
A father sent his child to shake my hand and say thank you for the season at the end of the summer. It meant the world to me. Another child in the club who I've been picking up from his door for three years to bring to matches, His mother has never thanked me once.

Clubs need to instill proper attitudes in players right from the beginning. Ultimately they learn more from attitudes at home. Once they hit 14/15 their friends are their biggest influence and therefore the more children with the correct attitude and discipline the greater chance of success in a club.

Some clubs focus on a few star players at underage and end up suffering at senior level as a result. Those players think they've an entitlement and become spoilt because they got away with certain behaviours. Clubs need to be inclusive now - every child matters and plays. These are the future players and volunteers of the club. If they were brought up with the right principles they'll pass those on.

Sadly too many people disagree with this line of thinking.

You should tell your wife to bring him instead  ;)

Very quick MR2 .....clip on the ear if my kid was anything but respectful and Mannerly to a volunteer!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on November 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
When a team wins everyone gets the credit - when a team loses it's only the manger or ref that gets the blame.
Too often it's too easy to give the one manager u have the chop - because you can't chip 15 players who won't accept that they weren't good enough.
Throw in the fact that a manger inevitably falls out with someone personally around town -  and we see how it's a job destined to end in pain.

Unless of course the manager was only in it for money in the first place ;)
In which case he dances a merry jig to the next club willing to part with members money.

Personally I think clubs & players need to appreciate prophets in their own land and not look for the new outside man in some mistaken belief he has a box of magic tricks that will cover up their own deficiencies.
Because the only thing in that box - is their money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 30, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
When a team wins everyone gets the credit - when a team loses it's only the manger or ref that gets the blame.
Too often it's too easy to give the one manager u have the chop - because you can't chip 15 players who won't accept that they weren't good enough.
Throw in the fact that a manger inevitably falls out with someone personally around town -  and we see how it's a job destined to end in pain.

Unless of course the manager was only in it for money in the first place ;)
In which case he dances a merry jig to the next club willing to part with members money.

Personally I think clubs & players need to appreciate prophets in their own land and not look for the new outside man in some mistaken belief he has a box of magic tricks that will cover up their own deficiencies.
Because the only thing in that box - is their money.
Thats about the long and short of it alright.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on November 30, 2016, 10:39:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 30, 2016, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on November 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM
When a team wins everyone gets the credit - when a team loses it's only the manger or ref that gets the blame.
Too often it's too easy to give the one manager u have the chop - because you can't chip 15 players who won't accept that they weren't good enough.
Throw in the fact that a manger inevitably falls out with someone personally around town -  and we see how it's a job destined to end in pain.

Unless of course the manager was only in it for money in the first place ;)
In which case he dances a merry jig to the next club willing to part with members money.

Personally I think clubs & players need to appreciate prophets in their own land and not look for the new outside man in some mistaken belief he has a box of magic tricks that will cover up their own deficiencies.
Because the only thing in that box - is their money.
Thats about the long and short of it alright.

Summed it up perfectly!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 01, 2016, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on November 30, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
A father sent his child to shake my hand and say thank you for the season at the end of the summer. It meant the world to me. Another child in the club who I've been picking up from his door for three years to bring to matches, His mother has never thanked me once.

Clubs need to instill proper attitudes in players right from the beginning. Ultimately they learn more from attitudes at home. Once they hit 14/15 their friends are their biggest influence and therefore the more children with the correct attitude and discipline the greater chance of success in a club.

Some clubs focus on a few star players at underage and end up suffering at senior level as a result. Those players think they've an entitlement and become spoilt because they got away with certain behaviours. Clubs need to be inclusive now - every child matters and plays. These are the future players and volunteers of the club. If they were brought up with the right principles they'll pass those on.

Sadly too many people disagree with this line of thinking.

Great post and one that resonates with me anyway
Truth be told if you have a bunch of kids your only there for the ones who are committed and listen which on  balance is a small percentage
Fair play to the kids dad but the next parent you mentioned sounds more like the norm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 01, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Another great PR job in today's paper. Obviously TR hasn't learnt about text messages from last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: Hand up on December 01, 2016, 04:23:17 PM
Another great PR job in today's paper. Obviously TR hasn't learnt about text messages from last year.

Expand?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on December 01, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
Bloody disgraceful from saffron (No) vision.
Gaa is  a democratic organisation. They should NOT  be canvassing for their friends.
This is an abuse of the voting system.
Having everyone from the same camp is not healthy for decision making.
New Kings + new rules = a mess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 05:58:58 PM
TRs voicemail last year was a complete disgrace but sure what else do you expect from him?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 01, 2016, 06:42:40 PM
TR, CD & PMcC sent a joint text message out to the City clubs asking them to vote for a Sarsfields man over Jim Murray and named AMcQ and MD as Ulster Council delegates. Pretty poor work in my mind, although the Baldy one was at the same antics over the last couple of weeks behind the back of our club Chairman!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 01, 2016, 06:53:19 PM
Disgraceful!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 01, 2016, 10:31:50 PM
The more things change - the more they stay the same.
Saffron vision. The irony.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on December 02, 2016, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: Hand up on December 01, 2016, 06:42:40 PM
TR, CD & PMcC sent a joint text message out to the City clubs asking them to vote for a Sarsfields man over Jim Murray and named AMcQ and MD as Ulster Council delegates. Pretty poor work in my mind, although the Baldy one was at the same antics over the last couple of weeks behind the back of our club Chairman!!

May I add Sarsfields had no part in this !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 02, 2016, 09:09:46 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.

+1

Anyone would think these guys people Antrim GAA is their own personal empire ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.

+2

Saffron Vision my a**e. Jim Murray may have been alot of things but to the best of my knowledge he always did his best for Antrim GAA. To be treated this way is shocking.

Move over lads, a new Mafia is in town.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 02, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.

+2

Saffron Vision my a**e. Jim Murray may have been alot of things but to the best of my knowledge he always did his best for Antrim GAA. To be treated this way is shocking.

Move over lads, a new Mafia is in town.

In what other county in Ireland would you get this sort of stuff?? We're always the laughing stock.

Each one of the men involved need a good kick in the balls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2016, 10:18:38 AM
Yes, Jim Murray, the last great bastion of diplomacy himself....

Not saying he was an angel at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on December 02, 2016, 10:45:00 AM
Good riddance is what I'm saying.

I just can't stand the fact that yet again Antrim GAA is on the back page of the paper for the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on December 02, 2016, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 02, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.

+2

Saffron Vision my a**e. Jim Murray may have been alot of things but to the best of my knowledge he always did his best for Antrim GAA. To be treated this way is shocking.

Move over lads, a new Mafia is in town.

In what other county in Ireland would you get this sort of stuff?? We're always the laughing stock.

Each one of the men involved need a good kick in the balls.

Probably something similar in most.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 03, 2016, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: Hectic on December 02, 2016, 08:34:19 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 02, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 02, 2016, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
the fact that people are actively working to have an elected vol out of a position to get someone in that they want is unreal. The clubs voted these people into the positions after canvassing around each club that they were the men & woman for the job and now they are in they are deciding to oust someone to get 'their men' into the positions?

Yup, this is Antrim GAA.

+2

Saffron Vision my a**e. Jim Murray may have been alot of things but to the best of my knowledge he always did his best for Antrim GAA. To be treated this way is shocking.

Move over lads, a new Mafia is in town.

In what other county in Ireland would you get this sort of stuff?? We're always the laughing stock.

Each one of the men involved need a good kick in the balls.

Probably something similar in most.

It probably is going on in the background but I'm yet to pickup on the Tyrone/Armagh/Donegal/Derry county boards causing this much stir in the press/public eye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2016, 10:20:14 AM
The irish news being based in belfast impacts this a lot meaning we are more likely to get press than other counties though.

We were even in the paper at one point for not serving pasta after training!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 04, 2016, 09:41:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 03, 2016, 10:20:14 AM
The irish news being based in belfast impacts this a lot meaning we are more likely to get press than other counties though.

We were even in the paper at one point for not serving pasta after training!

That's true but it's also the case that Antrim GAA keeps serving up the stories.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
It does that too but this stuff goes on in a lot of other counties too in terms of petty politics. What has happened here probably happens elsewhere too. The farce that is casement and the social club fiasco i would have my doubts on happening elsewhere mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
It does that too but this stuff goes on in a lot of other counties too in terms of petty politics. What has happened here probably happens elsewhere too. The farce that is casement and the social club fiasco i would have my doubts on happening elsewhere mind.

Happens in Cork every year!! Was speaking to a Cork man in Spain said they have scandals all the time, no doubt their local rag will write about it to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2016, 10:03:49 PM
Donal og highlights it a bit too. We're far from alone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 06, 2016, 08:52:56 AM
County convention last night. What happened? and What's happening with the motions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2016, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: Usain on December 06, 2016, 08:52:56 AM
County convention last night. What happened? and What's happening with the motions?

Think the St Johns motion was defeated, other ones deferred.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: samboswig on December 07, 2016, 05:05:41 PM
I stuck this link on the Antrim Football page too - big scores would be expected from all the visitors to this particular establishment! www.gaaclubjerseys.com/think-you-know-antrim-gaa-put-it-to-the-test/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?
(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)
(3) are developing squads working ?
Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on December 08, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?

Too broad a question - it some aspects they are successful and relevant, but in other ways they must always be subservient to the county board. Not just in rule, but in practice also.

(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)

Its a constant issue now. But one which we're frankly unable to get agreement on. Sadly I think it'll be a case of the more Clubs becoming redundant than formal amalgamations to form one new Club. Until then we're left with the to and fro of sanctions etc.


(3) are developing squads working ?

Absolutely not. Our "development" squads do not develop our player base at all. Rather they cream the already developing players off from their clubs and in turn deny others the chance to develop through meaningful club hurling.
If they are essentially county squads at underage level then they should not run throughout the year and interfere with underage club fixtures & training - if they are genuine development squads then they should only involve players from lower divisions without regular quality hurling.
The purpose is to develop hurling across the whole playing base - not for the few already developing well.

Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!

Indeed :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 08, 2016, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 08, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?

Too broad a question - it some aspects they are successful and relevant, but in other ways they must always be subservient to the county board. Not just in rule, but in practice also.

(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)

Its a constant issue now. But one which we're frankly unable to get agreement on. Sadly I think it'll be a case of the more Clubs becoming redundant than formal amalgamations to form one new Club. Until then we're left with the to and fro of sanctions etc.


(3) are developing squads working ?

Absolutely not. Our "development" squads do not develop our player base at all. Rather they cream the already developing players off from their clubs and in turn deny others the chance to develop through meaningful club hurling.
If they are essentially county squads at underage level then they should not run throughout the year and interfere with underage club fixtures & training - if they are genuine development squads then they should only involve players from lower divisions without regular quality hurling.
The purpose is to develop hurling across the whole playing base - not for the few already developing well.

Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!

Indeed :o

You're bang on the money WRT development squads from what I know of the Down hurling ones and taking the best hurlers from each club fucks it up for the rest of the lads left behind especially when you've very small squads like we have.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 08, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on December 08, 2016, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on December 08, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 08, 2016, 12:04:13 AM
Interesting points from county chairman today in Irish News
(1) are divisional boards working?

Too broad a question - it some aspects they are successful and relevant, but in other ways they must always be subservient to the county board. Not just in rule, but in practice also.

(2) clubs to amalgamate in belfast ( creating even bigger super clubs !!!!!)

Its a constant issue now. But one which we're frankly unable to get agreement on. Sadly I think it'll be a case of the more Clubs becoming redundant than formal amalgamations to form one new Club. Until then we're left with the to and fro of sanctions etc.


(3) are developing squads working ?

Absolutely not. Our "development" squads do not develop our player base at all. Rather they cream the already developing players off from their clubs and in turn deny others the chance to develop through meaningful club hurling.
If they are essentially county squads at underage level then they should not run throughout the year and interfere with underage club fixtures & training - if they are genuine development squads then they should only involve players from lower divisions without regular quality hurling.
The purpose is to develop hurling across the whole playing base - not for the few already developing well.

Power Hungry  people !!!!
Not too many North antrim  / south West  on county executive!!!

Indeed :o

You're bang on the money WRT development squads from what I know of the Down hurling ones and taking the best hurlers from each club f**ks it up for the rest of the lads left behind especially when you've very small squads like we have.

+2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 08, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\

Its been moved to Sunday in respect for Danny Murphys funeral. Haven't heard anything else really about it

That's the team they are up against

Hurling:
Clare – Cian Dillon, David Reidy and Aaron Shanagher
Cork – Anthony Nash
Kerry – Tom Murnane
Limerick – Diarmuid Byrnes, Tom Condon, Shane Dowling, Cian Lynch and Barry Nash
Tipperary – James Barry, Michael Breen, Seamus Callanan, Darren Gleeson, Brendan Maher (Captain), Padraic Maher, Dan McCormack, Noel McGrath and John O'Dwyer
Waterford – Jamie Barron, Shane Bennett, Stephen Bennett, Noel Connors, Barry Coughlan, Shane Fives, Austin Gleeson and Pauric Mahony
Management – Anthony Daly (Clare) – Manager, Tommy Dunne (Tipperary), John Mullane (Waterford)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 08, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 08, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\

Its been moved to Sunday in respect for Danny Murphys funeral. Haven't heard anything else really about it

That's the team they are up against

Hurling:
Clare – Cian Dillon, David Reidy and Aaron Shanagher
Cork – Anthony Nash
Kerry – Tom Murnane
Limerick – Diarmuid Byrnes, Tom Condon, Shane Dowling, Cian Lynch and Barry Nash
Tipperary – James Barry, Michael Breen, Seamus Callanan, Darren Gleeson, Brendan Maher (Captain), Padraic Maher, Dan McCormack, Noel McGrath and John O'Dwyer
Waterford – Jamie Barron, Shane Bennett, Stephen Bennett, Noel Connors, Barry Coughlan, Shane Fives, Austin Gleeson and Pauric Mahony
Management – Anthony Daly (Clare) – Manager, Tommy Dunne (Tipperary), John Mullane (Waterford)

Piece of cake
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2016, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 08, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 08, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\

Its been moved to Sunday in respect for Danny Murphys funeral. Haven't heard anything else really about it

That's the team they are up against

Hurling:
Clare – Cian Dillon, David Reidy and Aaron Shanagher
Cork – Anthony Nash
Kerry – Tom Murnane
Limerick – Diarmuid Byrnes, Tom Condon, Shane Dowling, Cian Lynch and Barry Nash
Tipperary – James Barry, Michael Breen, Seamus Callanan, Darren Gleeson, Brendan Maher (Captain), Padraic Maher, Dan McCormack, Noel McGrath and John O'Dwyer
Waterford – Jamie Barron, Shane Bennett, Stephen Bennett, Noel Connors, Barry Coughlan, Shane Fives, Austin Gleeson and Pauric Mahony
Management – Anthony Daly (Clare) – Manager, Tommy Dunne (Tipperary), John Mullane (Waterford)

Piece of cake

The 3 on the management team could still do a job one some of our lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 09, 2016, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 08, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 08, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\

Its been moved to Sunday in respect for Danny Murphys funeral. Haven't heard anything else really about it

That's the team they are up against

Hurling:
Clare – Cian Dillon, David Reidy and Aaron Shanagher
Cork – Anthony Nash
Kerry – Tom Murnane
Limerick – Diarmuid Byrnes, Tom Condon, Shane Dowling, Cian Lynch and Barry Nash
Tipperary – James Barry, Michael Breen, Seamus Callanan, Darren Gleeson, Brendan Maher (Captain), Padraic Maher, Dan McCormack, Noel McGrath and John O'Dwyer
Waterford – Jamie Barron, Shane Bennett, Stephen Bennett, Noel Connors, Barry Coughlan, Shane Fives, Austin Gleeson and Pauric Mahony
Management – Anthony Daly (Clare) – Manager, Tommy Dunne (Tipperary), John Mullane (Waterford)

Piece of cake

We've got this  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on December 09, 2016, 04:01:28 PM
Ref:
Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #35795 on: November 30, 2016, 12:34:34 PM »
Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #35798 on: November 30, 2016, 07:54:13 PM »
The above comments are real good language for the gaa.

All club volunteers, and indeed the divisional (which are very important) and county board people need and deserve respect and assistance, for what they have contributed in the past, and for what they will contribute in the future – from everyone, in a mature way.

This includes the current vision crowd and others, and also JM and TE, who seem to have had cheap swipes taken at them recently.

Paid managers or any position must be resisted – we are based on volunteers; going to the extreme, will we start paying the mummies who bake the buns and brew the tea after games ?

We should stop 'paying' referees too, expenses should be adequate...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 11, 2016, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Usain on December 09, 2016, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on December 08, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 08, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on December 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
Any news about the railway cup team. Many Antrim lads involved? Semi vs Munster this Saturday  :-\

Its been moved to Sunday in respect for Danny Murphys funeral. Haven't heard anything else really about it

That's the team they are up against

Hurling:
Clare – Cian Dillon, David Reidy and Aaron Shanagher
Cork – Anthony Nash
Kerry – Tom Murnane
Limerick – Diarmuid Byrnes, Tom Condon, Shane Dowling, Cian Lynch and Barry Nash
Tipperary – James Barry, Michael Breen, Seamus Callanan, Darren Gleeson, Brendan Maher (Captain), Padraic Maher, Dan McCormack, Noel McGrath and John O'Dwyer
Waterford – Jamie Barron, Shane Bennett, Stephen Bennett, Noel Connors, Barry Coughlan, Shane Fives, Austin Gleeson and Pauric Mahony
Management – Anthony Daly (Clare) – Manager, Tommy Dunne (Tipperary), John Mullane (Waterford)

Piece of cake

We've got this  ;D
Nothing to fear there  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I hear an ex AI winning manager is taking over at a div4 club in the next few weeks or so rumour has it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on December 29, 2016, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I hear an ex AI winning manager is taking over at a div4 club in the next few weeks or so rumour has it.

Care to enlighten us!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I hear an ex AI winning manager is taking over at a div4 club in the next few weeks or so rumour has it.

Good to see PJ working with other clubs, plenty experience and obviously passion for the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I hear an ex AI winning manager is taking over at a div4 club in the next few weeks or so rumour has it.

Good to see PJ working with other clubs, plenty experience and obviously passion for the game

Yip. Could do a job with this team if the rumours are true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 02, 2017, 08:47:23 AM
Which team PJ going with?

Think he was helping Keady this year.

Quote from: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 29, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I hear an ex AI winning manager is taking over at a div4 club in the next few weeks or so rumour has it.

Good to see PJ working with other clubs, plenty experience and obviously passion for the game

Yip. Could do a job with this team if the rumours are true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 02, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
Conn Magee's Glenravel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on January 02, 2017, 10:24:45 AM
Quote from: Hand up on January 02, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
Conn Magee's Glenravel

Cheers. Heard Martin Scullion playing here next year.

Two good additions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 02, 2017, 10:42:53 AM
Walsh Cup fixtures

http://www.leinstergaa.ie/leinster-accident-tournaments-2012/walsh-cup-sh-2012.326.html

Group 2
   Kilkenny   Westmeath   Antrim   DCU Dochas Eireann


Group 2
1.   Kilkenny   v   DCU Dochas Eireann   5.1.2017   MW Hire Park Dunmore   7.30
2.   Westmeath   v   Antrim   8.1.2017   Kinnegad   2.00
3.   Kilkenny   v   Antrim   15.1.2017   Abbottstown - Pitch 1   2.00
4.   Westmeath   v   DCU Dochas Eireann   15.1.2017   Westmeath Venue   2.00
5.   Westmeath   v   Kilkenny   22.1.2017   TEG Cusack Park   2.00
6.   Antrim   v   DCU Dochas Eireann   22.1.2017   Antrim Venue   2.00
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 04, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
Any idea when master fixture schedule will be out for the all county leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 04, 2017, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: Usain on January 04, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
Any idea when master fixture schedule will be out for the all county leagues?

Don't hold your breath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 04, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: Usain on January 04, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
Any idea when master fixture schedule will be out for the all county leagues?

Are they not normally out around the end of January?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 05, 2017, 12:56:01 PM
First outing for the hurlers this Sunday vs Westmeath in Walsh cup. Any new faces in the panel? Have heard very little about them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on January 05, 2017, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 02, 2017, 10:24:45 AM
Quote from: Hand up on January 02, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
Conn Magee's Glenravel

Cheers. Heard Martin Scullion playing here next year.

Two good additions.

I see Glenravel are advertising for a football manager on the county website - do not remember seeing them advertise for a hurling manager - are these just rumours fuelled by the eggnog at Christmas or something more substantial - you would imagine that if they managed to get PJ for the hurling they may be showing a bit of ambition on the football side as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
anyone brave the journey to westmeath yday?

Must of played decent enough to get the result. I seen a clip of chrissys save online, cracking diving stop!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 09, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
anyone brave the journey to westmeath yday?

Must of played decent enough to get the result. I seen a clip of chrissys save online, cracking diving stop!

A fantastic save from close range!

I heard that he is going to transfer to Armoy this season. Any truth? I suppose he doesn't get that much first team action in Lgiel so why not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
I was following on twitter and we were behind by a good few points at one stage so it was a decent comeback. It can't have been wind as we were leading by half time so must have taken us a while to get into it.

I saw the save too which looked pretty good.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2017, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Usain on January 09, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
anyone brave the journey to westmeath yday?

Must of played decent enough to get the result. I seen a clip of chrissys save online, cracking diving stop!

A fantastic save from close range!

I heard that he is going to transfer to Armoy this season. Any truth? I suppose he doesn't get that much first team action in Lgiel so why not?

Can't see that - but think it's now time DD gave the jersey over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 11:21:07 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 09, 2017, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: Usain on January 09, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
anyone brave the journey to westmeath yday?

Must of played decent enough to get the result. I seen a clip of chrissys save online, cracking diving stop!

A fantastic save from close range!

I heard that he is going to transfer to Armoy this season. Any truth? I suppose he doesn't get that much first team action in Lgiel so why not?

Can't see that - but think it's now time DD gave the jersey over.

I've heard that he is looking to move to play more club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
anyone brave the journey to westmeath yday?

Must of played decent enough to get the result. I seen a clip of chrissys save online, cracking diving stop!

Yeah went down

Good game for time of year and the pitch was heavy

Took us a while to get going and where 5 down at one stage but got stuck in and turned it around
Came out in the second half and took complete control , I think they only scored two points
Like him or love him Neil MC Manus is a player that can lift a team
He took a while to get going but had a major influence
Westmeath seem to have a lot of youngsters starting, probably some of the u21 squad that chinned Kilkenny last year
None of the greville brothers started but there main man Eoin price played from the start
I think Westmeath are keeping their powder dry for Ballycastle in the league

still a good result I can't remember the last time we came out of there with a win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
you have to feel for Chrissy as hes a top quality keeper who barely gets game time. DD has been a great servant to the club but why would he step down when hes fit and able to play each week. Who could blame him for wanting to play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 09, 2017, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
you have to feel for Chrissy as hes a top quality keeper who barely gets game time. DD has been a great servant to the club but why would he step down when hes fit and able to play each week. Who could blame him for wanting to play.

Totally understand you point.
But is DD still a better keeper than Chrissy is opinion.
My point is that it's no about the person - I think it's about the Club.
And the long terms good of Loughgiel is better served with handing on the baton.
I.m not a Loughgiel man however ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2017, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: Cmills abu on January 09, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
Good result, was wondering what strength of team Westmeath would have out. Wouldnt read too much into the win but a wins a win all the same...

Westmeath had six regulars playing walsh cup with their collages and 2 injured players but we didn't start shorty
As I said I expect Westmeath to be a different animal in Ballycastle
Rumours suggest that Kilkenny are fielding an experimental team ( mostly u21s ) next week v Antrim in Abbotstown so I might be worth going to

As the for the DD Quinn debate O Connell is a great shot stopper with very predictable puck outs
Quinn's puck outs have ability to ping a man on the move 70 yards out have been one of LGs great strengths and always worth some scores
Anyone that has watched LG should know this
Sure there is always two or three outfield players moving for him for every puck out
Very Donal og cussack like and only a few keepers has that fast and low long distance accuracy
I think o Connell is a better shot stopper all the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
you have to feel for Chrissy as hes a top quality keeper who barely gets game time. DD has been a great servant to the club but why would he step down when hes fit and able to play each week. Who could blame him for wanting to play.

I'm sure you boys would take him over the road..

Were actually lucky to have young Ryan Elliott stepping in there from the minors last season. hes very young but has the potential there to be our keeper for the foreseeable future. I would be happy with the wee man there every game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 01:11:04 PM
you have to feel for Chrissy as hes a top quality keeper who barely gets game time. DD has been a great servant to the club but why would he step down when hes fit and able to play each week. Who could blame him for wanting to play.

I'm sure you boys would take him over the road..

Were actually lucky to have young Ryan Elliott stepping in there from the minors last season. hes very young but has the potential there to be our keeper for the foreseeable future. I would be happy with the wee man there every game.

I've been very impressed with him anytime I've saw him.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
yeah he looks a good keeper in the making. hes not the biggest in the world but he reads the game really well and fields the ball well in his box. He def looks to have the makings of a good keeper.
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Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2017, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
yeah he looks a good keeper in the making. hes not the biggest in the world but he reads the game really well and fields the ball well in his box. He def looks to have the makings of a good keeper.

Is he a son of Shane?
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 10, 2017, 09:33:34 AM
yeah he is. natural progression to nets from a young age lol
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Post by: paddyjohn on January 10, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 10, 2017, 09:33:34 AM
yeah he is. natural progression to nets from a young age lol

No other option I suppose lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on January 12, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
Following a succesful first outing v DCU last week Kilkenny take on Antrim in Round 2 of the Bord na Mona Walsh Cup in Abbottstown next Sunday at 2pm. Eddie Brennan's under 21's lined out against DCU but this weekend will see the senior squad return under Brian Cody and his selectors

Seen this on Kilkenny website, hope we do well but at this stage of the season I think a game against the u-21's would have benefited us more


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 12, 2017, 02:39:53 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on January 12, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
Following a succesful first outing v DCU last week Kilkenny take on Antrim in Round 2 of the Bord na Mona Walsh Cup in Abbottstown next Sunday at 2pm. Eddie Brennan's under 21's lined out against DCU but this weekend will see the senior squad return under Brian Cody and his selectors

Seen this on Kilkenny website, hope we do well but at this stage of the season I think a game against the u-21's would have benefited us more
Was working in Carlow last week and the sports radio reporters were saying exactly that after the DCU game. Cody won't be letting us slip in under the radar a la 2008.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 01:22:48 PM
Cloughmills 0-03. Emmet's 0-03
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
5 apiece at half time.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
Cloughmills 0-09 Emmet's 0-07. 41 minutes.

Via @LONDAINGAA on the oul Twitter
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:09:27 PM
0-10 to 0-08
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Post by: hurlingstick on January 14, 2017, 02:25:08 PM
Extra time
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Emmet's 1 up 2 minutes in.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:35:01 PM
3 up
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:47:48 PM
Level again
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:51:15 PM
Emmett's 2 up. 2 minutes left.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 14, 2017, 02:56:17 PM
Cloughmills beat by 2 points. Hard luck to the biddies.
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Post by: MoChara on January 15, 2017, 08:41:40 AM
Sounds like it was a very tight game, hard luck cloughmills
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Any Antrim men on the Emmetts team?
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Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Any Antrim men on the Emmetts team?

Don't think it. Their manager is Kevin Martin McMullan from C'Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 11:33:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Any Antrim men on the Emmetts team?

Don't think it. Their manager is Kevin Martin McMullan from C'Dall.

He'd have been on the previous teams that won it I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 15, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Some hammering today just the 26 points!! Less running more hurling!!
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Post by: btdtgtt on January 15, 2017, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 15, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Some hammering today just the 26 points!! Less running more hurling!!

I doubt we're the first or last team that will take a hammering from the cats.
Not a result I would be reading anything into.
Judgement to be made against teams at our own level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 11:33:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 15, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Any Antrim men on the Emmetts team?

Don't think it. Their manager is Kevin Martin McMullan from C'Dall.

He'd have been on the previous teams that won it I think

Yeah there's been a few lads from Antrim on previous teams. The lad Kelly from Gort Na Mona, Higgins from Con Magees & Kevin McMullan and his brothers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2017, 08:45:25 AM
listened to it on the radio and KK played a strong team at the start of the match. The fact we managed 19 points was a big positive. Chrissy OConnell was brilliant in nets and a few of the antrim lads had good games.

Its a good a game as we could of hoped for at this stage of the year. We were never ever going to beat them, it was all about the work out and getting a game against one of the best teams in Ireland. If we beat DCU next week it will be a positive start to the season IMO.

A lot of work to do but its a base to start the league on for the management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on January 16, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: Hand up on January 15, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Some hammering today just the 26 points!! Less running more hurling!!

Was at the game. To be honest, some positive signs from an Antrim perspective (I appreciate how that sounds, given the scoreline). The big difference was a.) the goals (and Chrissy had a stomer!) and b.) how clinical KK (who had a very strong team out) were generally. The least mistake was punished by a point. The first half was reasonably competitive and we took some good scores. We also had a goal ruled out for a square ball that was a square ball but there was no need for it to be (if that makes any sense - our man had wandered into the square when waiting for a ball to be crossed in when he could easily have held back and scored just as easily).

Some strong individual performances and everybody kept going and showing for the ball right to the end (which hasn't always been the way with us in games like this).

I think we have to be realistic about where we are in the world right now.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Really disappointing result for cloughmills on Saturday. Late point took it to extra time and that affected the lads for the first half of ET. 2 evenly matched teams though on a better pitch and better conditions I think we would have got over the line. The pitch was really poor. Leaves on it and dug up really bad. We had a few chances to win it but just wasn't to be. Think the London outfit will have their work cut out by carrickshock though. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 16, 2017, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Really disappointing result for cloughmills on Saturday. Late point took it to extra time and that affected the lads for the first half of ET. 2 evenly matched teams though on a better pitch and better conditions I think we would have got over the line. The pitch was really poor. Leaves on it and dug up really bad. We had a few chances to win it but just wasn't to be. Think the London outfit will have their work cut out by carrickshock though. Good luck to them.

The biddies would always have struck me as a team that fairs much better with a dry sod and ball. The heavy pitches at this time of the year wouldn't suit their nimble team.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 16, 2017, 10:25:12 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on January 16, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: Hand up on January 15, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Some hammering today just the 26 points!! Less running more hurling!!

Was at the game. To be honest, some positive signs from an Antrim perspective (I appreciate how that sounds, given the scoreline). The big difference was a.) the goals (and Chrissy had a stomer!) and b.) how clinical KK (who had a very strong team out) were generally. The least mistake was punished by a point. The first half was reasonably competitive and we took some good scores. We also had a goal ruled out for a square ball that was a square ball but there was no need for it to be (if that makes any sense - our man had wandered into the square when waiting for a ball to be crossed in when he could easily have held back and scored just as easily).

Some strong individual performances and everybody kept going and showing for the ball right to the end (which hasn't always been the way with us in games like this).

I think we have to be realistic about where we are in the world right now.

That's a good summary Cloot
In regards to the square ball it was a bit harsh as he never had it in his hand but they disallowed a Kilkenny goal for the same thing in the second half
Chrissy made some mega saves but his puck outs where bad
Kilkenny really opened us up in the last twenty minutes, they seem to be a lot fitter
Still a good work out for the leauge
Kilkennys movement off the ball was unreal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 16, 2017, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Really disappointing result for cloughmills on Saturday. Late point took it to extra time and that affected the lads for the first half of ET. 2 evenly matched teams though on a better pitch and better conditions I think we would have got over the line. The pitch was really poor. Leaves on it and dug up really bad. We had a few chances to win it but just wasn't to be. Think the London outfit will have their work cut out by carrickshock though. Good luck to them.

I was pleasently surprised when i seen on twitter that it had finished a draw. The london lads were favs for the game and i was hoping that when Cmills were 2 up they could hold on to win it but sadly not too be.

Its been a great year and adventure for the club and i hope they build on it this year. Well done to them.
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Post by: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
Quote from: Usain on January 16, 2017, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Really disappointing result for cloughmills on Saturday. Late point took it to extra time and that affected the lads for the first half of ET. 2 evenly matched teams though on a better pitch and better conditions I think we would have got over the line. The pitch was really poor. Leaves on it and dug up really bad. We had a few chances to win it but just wasn't to be. Think the London outfit will have their work cut out by carrickshock though. Good luck to them.

The biddies would always have struck me as a team that fairs much better with a dry sod and ball. The heavy pitches at this time of the year wouldn't suit their nimble team.

Yes, definitely though it was the same for both teams. But we couldn't use our pace as effective as in a drier pitch. Game should have been played in November but for the delay to the ulster final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 16, 2017, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Cmills abu on January 16, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Really disappointing result for cloughmills on Saturday. Late point took it to extra time and that affected the lads for the first half of ET. 2 evenly matched teams though on a better pitch and better conditions I think we would have got over the line. The pitch was really poor. Leaves on it and dug up really bad. We had a few chances to win it but just wasn't to be. Think the London outfit will have their work cut out by carrickshock though. Good luck to them.

I was pleasently surprised when i seen on twitter that it had finished a draw. The london lads were favs for the game and i was hoping that when Cmills were 2 up they could hold on to win it but sadly not too be.

Its been a great year and adventure for the club and i hope they build on it this year. Well done to them.
Scores were hard to come by. They only scored 2 from play during normal time. Took 2 late frees to level it. Ref gave a few soft frees to both teams but it was one of those games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:14:03 PM
Great news on the Antrim v Tipp Friendly well done to the County on securing this game? And then where the F**k to we hold it ? Surprise Surprise !! Corrigan Park!! One step forward 2 steps back!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:14:03 PM
Great news on the Antrim v Tipp Friendly well done to the County on securing this game? And then where the F**k to we hold it ? Surprise Surprise !! Corrigan Park!! One step forward 2 steps back!!

Where else do you want it played? Is it not a weekend for Fr Alec Reid?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Somewhere that's suitable, Good Pitch, parking, veiwing facilites and that would attract a crowd because let's face it if there's a Celtic match on who many SA supporter's will bother their arse attending ie Senior Semi this year , it was pathetic!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Somewhere that's suitable, Good Pitch, parking, veiwing facilites and that would attract a crowd because let's face it if there's a Celtic match on who many SA supporter's will bother their arse attending ie Senior Semi this year , it was pathetic!!

Where else in the City has parking? Bear Pit? I agree with you by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on January 19, 2017, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:14:03 PM
Great news on the Antrim v Tipp Friendly well done to the County on securing this game? And then where the F**k to we hold it ? Surprise Surprise !! Corrigan Park!! One step forward 2 steps back!!

Where else do you want it played? Is it not a weekend for Fr Alec Reid?

The is a full season at least before Casement development;
Get the grass cut and rolled;
Borrow a set of posts and nets from dunsilly, turn the heat on the changing rooms, pull out the weeds from the terraces, unlock the gates;
It doesn't have a stand anyway... (with seats)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on January 19, 2017, 08:01:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 18, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 18, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Somewhere that's suitable, Good Pitch, parking, veiwing facilites and that would attract a crowd because let's face it if there's a Celtic match on who many SA supporter's will bother their arse attending ie Senior Semi this year , it was pathetic!!

Where else in the City has parking? Bear Pit? I agree with you by the way.

Bear Pit is closed, new changing rooms being  built and further work being carried out.

surely after new changing rooms built, they are bound to be able to host a few games. Or maybe not !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 19, 2017, 09:12:54 AM
St Johns is probably the only pitch that could take the game. All the other pitches in the county are shut due to the hammerings they took throughout the year.

Instead of bitching about the venue in January consider that the clubs dont want their pitches tore into complete shite months before any of the actual teams who play on it are even allowed close to it.

We dont have a county ground so we rely on the grace and good will of the clubs who offer their pitches up at this stage of the year.

And dont mention about getting money for it cause its not work two flying fuks as Ballycastle could vouch for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 19, 2017, 09:36:21 AM
The Alec Reid connection was instrumental in organising the event as were some members of St Johns, and throw in Corrigan's proximity to Clonard Monastry - the game would never have been considered for anywhere else.
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Post by: Usain on January 19, 2017, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 19, 2017, 09:36:21 AM
The Alec Reid connection was instrumental in organising the event as were some members of St Johns, and throw in Corrigan's proximity to Clonard Monastry - the game would never have been considered for anywhere else.

Fair enough. I hope its a success.

Maybe need some of those shuttle buses for supporters like the new casement plans to have and bus supporters from larger car parks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 19, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
Who says the other clubs wouldn't have taken it, I know our own pitch was cut today and in great shape, and let's face it giving his bias towards his own club last year during the senior championships, the County Chairman wouldn't have let it go anywhere else!
I feel all County matches should be held in venues that maximise supporter numbers to create an atmosphere the team. I know it's not ready yet but my preference would have been Dunloy. But I will be on Corrigan supporting the team, hopefully everyone on here will as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 08:53:54 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 19, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
Who says the other clubs wouldn't have taken it, I know our own pitch was cut today and in great shape, and let's face it giving his bias towards his own club last year during the senior championships, the County Chairman wouldn't have let it go anywhere else!
I feel all County matches should be held in venues that maximise supporter numbers to create an atmosphere the team. I know it's not ready yet but my preference would have been Dunloy. But I will be on Corrigan supporting the team, hopefully everyone on here will as well.

Cushendall isnt the best place to watch county games either to be fair, remember the last time Tipp played there, wasnt great, and if you happen to be a short arse (like me) then you'll need to be at the fence or on the step part!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
Bringing the All Ireland Champions 200 miles to play a game at Corrigan! An absolute insult. Cloughmills were insulted last weekend playing an All Ireland Quarter final in a public park  (practically).

Surely with the right PR we could have got Queens to allow us their fantastic facility for a one off given it's the All Ireland Champions.

Antrim Vision my hole!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
Bringing the All Ireland Champions 200 miles to play a game at Corrigan! An absolute insult. Cloughmills were insulted last weekend playing an All Ireland Quarter final in a public park  (practically).

Surely with the right PR we could have got Queens to allow us their fantastic facility for a one off given it's the All Ireland Champions.

Antrim Vision my hole!

Too small a pitch in my view! Have you been to Queens?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 19, 2017, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
Bringing the All Ireland Champions 200 miles to play a game at Corrigan! An absolute insult. Cloughmills were insulted last weekend playing an All Ireland Quarter final in a public park  (practically).

Surely with the right PR we could have got Queens to allow us their fantastic facility for a one off given it's the All Ireland Champions.

Antrim Vision my hole!

Too small a pitch in my view! Have you been to Queens?

Corrigan or the Bear pit are the only pitches in the city capable of taking the game at this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:22:10 PM
Yeah I think it's a great facility. More than capable of holding the numbers that will attend. Tight pitch might mean we get beat by less than 20 points.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:25:48 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:22:10 PM
Yeah I think it's a great facility. More than capable of holding the numbers that will attend. Tight pitch might mean we get beat by less than 20 points.

It's too tight and the game is not about being competitive (league, cup) it's a mark of respect towards someone that you probably have no idea who.... Queens pitch is small even for football... and if you've hurled a bit you'd know a small pitch won't keep scores down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:25:48 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:22:10 PM
Yeah I think it's a great facility. More than capable of holding the numbers that will attend. Tight pitch might mean we get beat by less than 20 points.

It's too tight and the game is not about being competitive (league, cup) it's a mark of respect towards someone that you probably have no idea who.... Queens pitch is small even for football... and if you've hurled a bit you'd know a small pitch won't keep scores down

What an arrogant post!! What makes you think I would have no idea who Fr Reid was MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 07:05:14 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 19, 2017, 11:25:48 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 19, 2017, 11:22:10 PM
Yeah I think it's a great facility. More than capable of holding the numbers that will attend. Tight pitch might mean we get beat by less than 20 points.

It's too tight and the game is not about being competitive (league, cup) it's a mark of respect towards someone that you probably have no idea who.... Queens pitch is small even for football... and if you've hurled a bit you'd know a small pitch won't keep scores down

What an arrogant post!! What makes you think I would have no idea who Fr Reid was MR2?

Because MR2 is the fountain of all knowledge and every post must be approved by him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 20, 2017, 08:37:30 AM
Quote from: Hand up on January 19, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
Who says the other clubs wouldn't have taken it, I know our own pitch was cut today and in great shape, and let's face it giving his bias towards his own club last year during the senior championships, the County Chairman wouldn't have let it go anywhere else!
I feel all County matches should be held in venues that maximise supporter numbers to create an atmosphere the team. I know it's not ready yet but my preference would have been Dunloy. But I will be on Corrigan supporting the team, hopefully everyone on here will as well.

our main pitch is closed until at least May to any games on in. The top half was dug up and drained like the bottom half at the end of last season so theres no games on it for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2017, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

Queen's pitch is clearly too small no point even considering that option.
As I've explained Corrigan is really the only pitch to be considered.
I find it incredible people are posturing over it's suitability - can't remember the last county game we had congestion at! If Tipperary bring a huge crowd out I will be delighted to jostle for position.
My only concern is damage to cars and I believe stewarding is responding to that this time.

One point however MR2 - anyone who stands for office would need thicker skin that to be affected by a post on here and may get used to sniping if they're not doing their job well. That's more a reason for our current state (along with our real playing standard) than any sniping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 20, 2017, 09:18:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

Of my last 30 posts two have been critical of a county board decision.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
£10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
£10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163

Why not name him and the club then G?

If this is true then he was obviously comfortable with the club doing this with the players, so I dont think there would be any harm in naming him and the club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I don't actually know Nag. I don't know how the managerial merry go round has gone this year so I was just asking the question.  As there's only really 3 Down clubs this could be I thought someone might know whether it was bullsh*t or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I don't actually know Nag. I don't know how the managerial merry go round has gone this year so I was just asking the question.  As there's only really 3 Down clubs this could be I thought someone might know whether it was bullsh*t or not.

That's ok, I don't know myself but I my initial thoughts on it would remain that if anyone does know then I think it should be posted up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 20, 2017, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I don't actually know Nag. I don't know how the managerial merry go round has gone this year so I was just asking the question.  As there's only really 3 Down clubs this could be I thought someone might know whether it was bullsh*t or not.

That's ok, I don't know myself but I my initial thoughts on it would remain that if anyone does know then I think it should be posted up.

This whole thing may be a windup, I hope it is. 

But if its true, name and shame the club and the manager. Goes against the entire ethos of club GAA.
I accept that coaches are getting paid by clubs all over the country but to ask players to pay for their own manager, ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: Usain on January 20, 2017, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I don't actually know Nag. I don't know how the managerial merry go round has gone this year so I was just asking the question.  As there's only really 3 Down clubs this could be I thought someone might know whether it was bullsh*t or not.

That's ok, I don't know myself but I my initial thoughts on it would remain that if anyone does know then I think it should be posted up.

This whole thing may be a windup, I hope it is. 

But if its true, name and shame the club and the manager. Goes against the entire ethos of club GAA.
I accept that coaches are getting paid by clubs all over the country but to ask players to pay for their own manager, ridiculous.

So who should pay?
Why should anyone else in the club pay it?

The real answer is nobody.
It's long over time this cancer was exposed and cut out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on January 20, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: Usain on January 20, 2017, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
I don't actually know Nag. I don't know how the managerial merry go round has gone this year so I was just asking the question.  As there's only really 3 Down clubs this could be I thought someone might know whether it was bullsh*t or not.

That's ok, I don't know myself but I my initial thoughts on it would remain that if anyone does know then I think it should be posted up.

This whole thing may be a windup, I hope it is. 

But if its true, name and shame the club and the manager. Goes against the entire ethos of club GAA.
I accept that coaches are getting paid by clubs all over the country but to ask players to pay for their own manager, ridiculous.

So who should pay?
Why should anyone else in the club pay it?

The real answer is nobody.
It's long over time this cancer was exposed and cut out.

I think you will find that in most cases where this occurs the players are paying for it indirectly by fund raising or other means.

They are not in paying via a standing order directly which is where this case differs.

I do hope that it is a bullsh*t story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on January 20, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
£10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163

Why not name him and the club then G?

If this is true then he was obviously comfortable with the club doing this with the players, so I dont think there would be any harm in naming him and the club?


Well it isn't us and I'd be surprised if it was any of the other two Ards clubs as that sort of news would go round the place like wildfire and the first I saw it was on here.

What's the wing doing this weather? :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 01:57:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 20, 2017, 01:22:15 PM
There is a hurling coach in Ulster worth £10k??

Not a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
£10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163

Why not name him and the club then G?

If this is true then he was obviously comfortable with the club doing this with the players, so I dont think there would be any harm in naming him and the club?


Well it isn't us and I'd be surprised if it was any of the other two Ards clubs as that sort of news would go round the place like wildfire and the first I saw it was on here.

What's the wing doing this weather? :)

Maybe it's in the big city where there's too much money and hurling is growing  :P

(P.S. Purely speculation with no basis...)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2017, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 20, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 20, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on January 20, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Any truth in the story that this is a Down team with an Antrim manager?
£10k pa
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/outrageous-direct-debit-demands-club-team-pay-manager-show-gaa-lost-control/110163

Why not name him and the club then G?

If this is true then he was obviously comfortable with the club doing this with the players, so I dont think there would be any harm in naming him and the club?


Well it isn't us and I'd be surprised if it was any of the other two Ards clubs as that sort of news would go round the place like wildfire and the first I saw it was on here.

What's the wing doing this weather? :)

Maybe it's in the big city where there's too much money and hurling is growing  :P

(P.S. Purely speculation with no basis...)

Speculating on the money? Or that hurling is growing? :D
I don't see either! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2017, 03:19:58 PM
Wrong side of the ormeau bridge btdtgtt ;-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on January 20, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
You are referring to bredagh or Carryduff then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2017, 04:52:52 PM
Only speculating that maybe Bredagh as they have been progressing very well in the hurling.

As I say purely speculation as the whole thing could be nonsense and probably is anyway...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 20, 2017, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2017, 03:19:58 PM
Wrong side of the ormeau bridge btdtgtt ;-)

The Orangemen used to have that problem :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done

I'll continue to post what i want about what i want. It's people like you and yer mate TR that give decent Belfast gaels a bad name. A whistle in your cheaper and you think you're an authority on everything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done

I'll continue to post what i want about what i want. It's people like you and yer mate TR that give decent Belfast gaels a bad name. A whistle in your cheaper and you think you're an authority on everything.

So by me posting what I want, I'm I any different to you? You'd be a right fool to think differently.... I've explained befor PJ I ain't got mates at the county. Now if you can remember that, then that be a good start...

It's people like you who run down the county at every decision and not do anything constructive that's possibly keeps Antrim where it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 07:44:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done

I'll continue to post what i want about what i want. It's people like you and yer mate TR that give decent Belfast gaels a bad name. A whistle in your cheaper and you think you're an authority on everything.

So by me posting what I want, I'm I any different to you? You'd be a right fool to think differently.... I've explained befor PJ I ain't got mates at the county. Now if you can remember that, then that be a good start...

It's people like you who run down the county at every decision and not do anything constructive that's possibly keeps Antrim where it is

People like me? somebody who has given 30 years of his life playing, refereeing, umpiring, coaching and sitting on committees? I'm sure most other people on the board had done all this also, so maybe it's people like me that keep the clubs etc going.

Anyway, we aren't going to agree about anything so we'll stop clogging up this thread. Look forward to seeing how my complaints pan out over the next few months. My guess that we'll be still writing about the same issues this time next year.

Big win for the hurlers, couldn't make it up as her indoors was working. Any reports??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 07:44:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done

I'll continue to post what i want about what i want. It's people like you and yer mate TR that give decent Belfast gaels a bad name. A whistle in your cheaper and you think you're an authority on everything.

So by me posting what I want, I'm I any different to you? You'd be a right fool to think differently.... I've explained befor PJ I ain't got mates at the county. Now if you can remember that, then that be a good start...

It's people like you who run down the county at every decision and not do anything constructive that's possibly keeps Antrim where it is

People like me? somebody who has given 30 years of his life playing, refereeing, umpiring, coaching and sitting on committees? I'm sure most other people on the board had done all this also, so maybe it's people like me that keep the clubs etc going.

Anyway, we aren't going to agree about anything so we'll stop clogging up this thread. Look forward to seeing how my complaints pan out over the next few months. My guess that we'll be still writing about the same issues this time next year.

Big win for the hurlers, couldn't make it up as her indoors was working. Any reports??

You're right, there is a long list of posters here doing what you do, without running down the efforts of people who do the county stuff out of their own time plus no doubt working with their own club committees
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 22, 2017, 10:26:34 PM
Big Scoreline today, any reports??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on January 23, 2017, 09:06:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 07:44:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 22, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 21, 2017, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 20, 2017, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
Arrogant? Certainly not.... but anything the county do you have yourself and Pj give off about it.... pure negative and we wonder why Antrim is a shit county!! They have been elected in and should be given a chance instead of sniping all the time....

You were out of order. End of. The county is in diffs because we have people who are above their station.

I'm negative when I feel I have to be.

Get off your high horse oul hand.

Then do something about it!! Unless youve been under a rock for 50 years the county has been in diffs a lot, are you critical all the time without a solution?

Who are you to tell me to do something about it? How do you know what I am doing to improve my club or county?

I'm not critical all the time for the sake of it. I've been critical of saffron vision and I have every right to be.

I tell you what I want until I know or you tell me different? You are critical all the time so I think you're negative which you've admitted... you're not part of the Antrim committee do in that respect you do feck all.. if you wash the gear at the club, the well done

I'll continue to post what i want about what i want. It's people like you and yer mate TR that give decent Belfast gaels a bad name. A whistle in your cheaper and you think you're an authority on everything.

So by me posting what I want, I'm I any different to you? You'd be a right fool to think differently.... I've explained befor PJ I ain't got mates at the county. Now if you can remember that, then that be a good start...

It's people like you who run down the county at every decision and not do anything constructive that's possibly keeps Antrim where it is

People like me? somebody who has given 30 years of his life playing, refereeing, umpiring, coaching and sitting on committees? I'm sure most other people on the board had done all this also, so maybe it's people like me that keep the clubs etc going.

Anyway, we aren't going to agree about anything so we'll stop clogging up this thread. Look forward to seeing how my complaints pan out over the next few months. My guess that we'll be still writing about the same issues this time next year.

Big win for the hurlers, couldn't make it up as her indoors was working. Any reports??

You're right, there is a long list of posters here doing what you do, without running down the efforts of people who do the county stuff out of their own time plus no doubt working with their own club committees

I'm not sure many county officers work much within their Club committees - due to the obvious time constraints.
My issue would be that over the years in Antrim we've had our fair share of County officers who arrived in position without ever working in Club committees.
But that's a different argument I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 23, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Things look bright for Antrim after DCU win

Bord na Mona Walsh Cup Group Two: Antrim 6-16 DCU 1-22

WINNING two out of three group games in the Walsh Cup, scoring 19 points in their defeat to Kilkenny and welcoming the return of some established names should allow the Antrim hurlers to approach next month's National League campaign with a fair degree of confidence.

Beneath a low winter's sun in icy temperatures at Jordanstown yesterday afternoon, Antrim breezed to a nine-point victory over a gutsy DCU side.

In preparation for their opening NHL Division 2A clash with London on February 12, the Saffrons will face Down in a challenge game at The Dub on Thursday night and will then host Tipperary at Corrigan Park next weekend.

DCU proved a reasonable work-out for the Antrim hurlers yesterday and allowed the four-man management team to run the rule over some of the younger members of the panel.

While Tiernan Coyle, John Dillon and an exciting cameo appearance from O'Donovan Rossa trickster Deaghlan Murphy caught the eye, it was some of the older players who helped secure this victory.

Neil McManus has returned to the fold after a year away travelling and mined four goals against the Dublin-based students.

None of them were things of beauty, but they all came at good times for Antrim.

Conor McCann is also back after missing last season, with the Creggan man getting his side's first major of the day after 14 minutes.

But probably the best news of the year so far was Paul Shiels making his eagerly-awaited return to county colours after spending an entire season on the sidelines with injury.

The Dunloy attacker was thrust into action after 49 minutes and got on the score-sheet.

Conor Johnston of St John's was also in the mood and tortured the DCU back-line in the second period, while Simon McCrory was rock-solid from start to finish in his resident right half-back position.

For joint-manager Dominic McKinley, one of the most pleasing aspects of the season so far has been the improved fitness levels of the squad.

When McKinley, Terence McNaughton, Gary O'Kane and Neal Peden took the reins midway through last season, it was an open secret that fitness fell well below the standard required for county level.

"We knew the first night we took the team," said McKinley.

"We said: 'These boys can't do this. They're not at the level they're supposed to train at, so we tried to work through it as best we could.

"We thought we could get through it but it was proven right.

"When other counties are talking about our [poor] fitness it's hurtful, it's hurtful for us as people, let alone the players."

He added: "When we sat down with the players at the start of this season the things they talked about were commitment, fitness, being honest with each other – and we're trying to address them.

"But getting to that level of fitness is seriously difficult. It's nearly a full-time thing.

"You've got to be thinking where you're at every day. That's the way things have gone. It's a life choice. But their fitness and hurling are getting better every day."

Antrim defeated bogey side Westmeath by nine points in their Walsh Cup opener but suffered a 26-point hammering at the hands of Kilkenny last week.

"People look at the Kilkenny match, but we still scored 19 points," said McKinley.

"If we can score 19 points against Tipperary and get to the pace of it; once a team pulls you into the pace of a game, you do react.

"We know for a fact that our players did work extremely hard (against Kilkenny) because we have the GPS to show that. Maybe it didn't look it but they did.

"We're trying to get there and we're looking at the fitness levels. It might take two or three years before these players are up to the fitness and conditioning they should be at, particularly for county level."

Yesterday, McCann and McManus grabbed a goal apiece in the 14th and 15th minutes respectively, which allowed Antrim to establish some early authority over DCU, who showed stout resistance through Paul Kelly, Colin Currie and Tony French.

Currie raced clear of the otherwise impressive Stephen Rooney in the 28th minute to bag the visitors' only major which cut Antrim's lead to just one point at 2-6 to 1-8.

Conor Hearne's fine 34th minute score enabled the Dubliners to lead 1-11 to 2-7 at the break – but once Conor Johnston rippled DCU's net after the restart Antrim looked in control and were able to locate their opponents' defensive weak spots.

The students couldn't cope with McManus's power on the edge of the square. He steamrolled through the DCU defence to grab his second three-pointer on 45 minutes and forced another over the line four minutes later to put Antrim 5-11 to 1-15 ahead.

And there was still time to notch his fourth goal after a fine off-load from Dillon in the 57th minute.

Young Deaghlan Murphy saw his clever lob over the DCU 'keeper come off the crossbar but he did split the visitors' posts on two occasions in the closing stages.

"The good thing is we saw 'Shorty' on," added McKinley.

"He got a good 20 minutes and played well but he's still a long way away. The depth of the squad is good; we'd be hoping Matthew Donnelly and Neal McAuley 9both injured) will be back.

"We need all our players, particularly for the National League. London is our first game (Sunday, February 12 at Corrigan Park) and we can't really look beyond that. We can't look at other teams and say: 'We can beat them'.

"We have to earn the right."

MATCH STATS
Antrim: C O'Connell; S Rooney, T Coyle, O McFadden; S McCrory (0-1), K McKeague, C McKinley (0-1); E Campbell (0-1), D McKernan; N McManus (4-2), C McCann (1-2), N McKenna; C Clarke (0-2, 0-1 free), J Dillon (0-1), C Johnston (1-2) Subs: R Diamond for K McKeague (46), P Shiels (0-1) for N McKenna (49), D Murphy (0-2) for C Clarke (50), P McGill (0-1) for J Dillon (57), M Connolly for D McKernan (57)
DCU: D Renehan; C Doran, D Byrne, M Daily; O Lanigan, B Hanlon, B Crowdle (0-1); T French (0-2, frees), P Kelly (0-4); A Murphy (0-1); C Hearne (0-2), C Dowling (0-4); H O'Connor (0-1), C Currie (1-6, 0-2 frees), J Mullaly (0-1) Subs: L Finnegan for B Crowdle (42), D Lynch for D Byrne (45), B King for J Mullaly (51), S Hickey for T Kelly (51)
Referee: K Brady (Louth)

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2017/01/23/news/things-look-bright-for-antrim-after-dcu-win-900727/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2017, 02:01:09 PM
Quote from: MoChara on January 23, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
Things look bright for Antrim after DCU win

Bord na Mona Walsh Cup Group Two: Antrim 6-16 DCU 1-22

WINNING two out of three group games in the Walsh Cup, scoring 19 points in their defeat to Kilkenny and welcoming the return of some established names should allow the Antrim hurlers to approach next month's National League campaign with a fair degree of confidence.

Beneath a low winter's sun in icy temperatures at Jordanstown yesterday afternoon, Antrim breezed to a nine-point victory over a gutsy DCU side.

In preparation for their opening NHL Division 2A clash with London on February 12, the Saffrons will face Down in a challenge game at The Dub on Thursday night and will then host Tipperary at Corrigan Park next weekend.

DCU proved a reasonable work-out for the Antrim hurlers yesterday and allowed the four-man management team to run the rule over some of the younger members of the panel.

While Tiernan Coyle, John Dillon and an exciting cameo appearance from O'Donovan Rossa trickster Deaghlan Murphy caught the eye, it was some of the older players who helped secure this victory.

Neil McManus has returned to the fold after a year away travelling and mined four goals against the Dublin-based students.

None of them were things of beauty, but they all came at good times for Antrim.

Conor McCann is also back after missing last season, with the Creggan man getting his side's first major of the day after 14 minutes.

But probably the best news of the year so far was Paul Shiels making his eagerly-awaited return to county colours after spending an entire season on the sidelines with injury.

The Dunloy attacker was thrust into action after 49 minutes and got on the score-sheet.

Conor Johnston of St John's was also in the mood and tortured the DCU back-line in the second period, while Simon McCrory was rock-solid from start to finish in his resident right half-back position.

For joint-manager Dominic McKinley, one of the most pleasing aspects of the season so far has been the improved fitness levels of the squad.

When McKinley, Terence McNaughton, Gary O'Kane and Neal Peden took the reins midway through last season, it was an open secret that fitness fell well below the standard required for county level.

"We knew the first night we took the team," said McKinley.

"We said: 'These boys can't do this. They're not at the level they're supposed to train at, so we tried to work through it as best we could.

"We thought we could get through it but it was proven right.

"When other counties are talking about our [poor] fitness it's hurtful, it's hurtful for us as people, let alone the players."

He added: "When we sat down with the players at the start of this season the things they talked about were commitment, fitness, being honest with each other – and we're trying to address them.

"But getting to that level of fitness is seriously difficult. It's nearly a full-time thing.

"You've got to be thinking where you're at every day. That's the way things have gone. It's a life choice. But their fitness and hurling are getting better every day."

Antrim defeated bogey side Westmeath by nine points in their Walsh Cup opener but suffered a 26-point hammering at the hands of Kilkenny last week.

"People look at the Kilkenny match, but we still scored 19 points," said McKinley.

"If we can score 19 points against Tipperary and get to the pace of it; once a team pulls you into the pace of a game, you do react.

"We know for a fact that our players did work extremely hard (against Kilkenny) because we have the GPS to show that. Maybe it didn't look it but they did.

"We're trying to get there and we're looking at the fitness levels. It might take two or three years before these players are up to the fitness and conditioning they should be at, particularly for county level."

Yesterday, McCann and McManus grabbed a goal apiece in the 14th and 15th minutes respectively, which allowed Antrim to establish some early authority over DCU, who showed stout resistance through Paul Kelly, Colin Currie and Tony French.

Currie raced clear of the otherwise impressive Stephen Rooney in the 28th minute to bag the visitors' only major which cut Antrim's lead to just one point at 2-6 to 1-8.

Conor Hearne's fine 34th minute score enabled the Dubliners to lead 1-11 to 2-7 at the break – but once Conor Johnston rippled DCU's net after the restart Antrim looked in control and were able to locate their opponents' defensive weak spots.

The students couldn't cope with McManus's power on the edge of the square. He steamrolled through the DCU defence to grab his second three-pointer on 45 minutes and forced another over the line four minutes later to put Antrim 5-11 to 1-15 ahead.

And there was still time to notch his fourth goal after a fine off-load from Dillon in the 57th minute.

Young Deaghlan Murphy saw his clever lob over the DCU 'keeper come off the crossbar but he did split the visitors' posts on two occasions in the closing stages.

"The good thing is we saw 'Shorty' on," added McKinley.

"He got a good 20 minutes and played well but he's still a long way away. The depth of the squad is good; we'd be hoping Matthew Donnelly and Neal McAuley 9both injured) will be back.

"We need all our players, particularly for the National League. London is our first game (Sunday, February 12 at Corrigan Park) and we can't really look beyond that. We can't look at other teams and say: 'We can beat them'.

"We have to earn the right."

MATCH STATS
Antrim: C O'Connell; S Rooney, T Coyle, O McFadden; S McCrory (0-1), K McKeague, C McKinley (0-1); E Campbell (0-1), D McKernan; N McManus (4-2), C McCann (1-2), N McKenna; C Clarke (0-2, 0-1 free), J Dillon (0-1), C Johnston (1-2) Subs: R Diamond for K McKeague (46), P Shiels (0-1) for N McKenna (49), D Murphy (0-2) for C Clarke (50), P McGill (0-1) for J Dillon (57), M Connolly for D McKernan (57)
DCU: D Renehan; C Doran, D Byrne, M Daily; O Lanigan, B Hanlon, B Crowdle (0-1); T French (0-2, frees), P Kelly (0-4); A Murphy (0-1); C Hearne (0-2), C Dowling (0-4); H O'Connor (0-1), C Currie (1-6, 0-2 frees), J Mullaly (0-1) Subs: L Finnegan for B Crowdle (42), D Lynch for D Byrne (45), B King for J Mullaly (51), S Hickey for T Kelly (51)
Referee: K Brady (Louth)

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2017/01/23/news/things-look-bright-for-antrim-after-dcu-win-900727/

Superb to see Shorty back in a county jersey and 5 out of the 6 starting forwards on the score sheet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 27, 2017, 08:12:48 AM
Lots of people coming up with strategies for the CPA to fix the fixtures. Here's my attempt (important to start at a very high-level so that every county board/provincial council has a template to work from):

February - June:
NHL/NFL & All Ireland Championships.
CLUB LEAGUE GAMES MUST PROCEED WITH/WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS DURING THIS PERIOD.

July - November:
CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS CONCLUDING WITH CLUB FINALS BEFORE DECEMBER.

Two month off season (January & December).

Simples................. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Anyone know how the hurlers did v down last night in a challenge match

I bought an Irish news this morning for the first time in ages
Three pages on C J Mc Gourty but not a pip on this weekends festival of hurling in honour of father Reid including the all Ireland champions spending the weekend there training and playing our hurlers on Sunday
WTF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on January 27, 2017, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Anyone know how the hurlers did v down last night in a challenge match

I bought an Irish news this morning for the first time in ages
Three pages on C J Mc Gourty but not a pip on this weekends festival of hurling in honour of father Reid including the all Ireland champions spending the weekend there training and playing our hurlers on Sunday
WTF
Both teams looked to be giving a few "possibles" a run last night. Antrim a lot less troubled by that overall and won handy enough. Got a bit feisty just on the blow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 12:27:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on January 27, 2017, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Anyone know how the hurlers did v down last night in a challenge match

I bought an Irish news this morning for the first time in ages
Three pages on C J Mc Gourty but not a pip on this weekends festival of hurling in honour of father Reid including the all Ireland champions spending the weekend there training and playing our hurlers on Sunday
WTF
Both teams looked to be giving a few "possibles" a run last night. Antrim a lot less troubled by that overall and won handy enough. Got a bit feisty just on the blow.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 29, 2017, 05:48:17 PM
Enjoyed today's game against Tipperary. Thought we competed in many sectors across the field for long periods. Rocky Dillon was excellent in full back and the two corner backs put in a shift as well. Mc Crory hurled well, McFadden tried his heart out. When Neil moved out he started to have a big impact on the game, set up Clarke's goal and tapped over 2 points himself. Unfortunate to go off injured and this along with the 2 Tipp goals after half time took the wind out of our sails although I was pleased we stuck to the task. In many previous years we'd have folded and got beat by 25 or 30 points. Some basic errors that need to be cut out. I despise short poc outs and trying to run the ball out of defence. Its just an opportunity to loose the ball in your own half. But all in all I thought it was a good effort from Antrim, plenty of positive performances and a good game to get at this time of the year. Hopefully it'll stand to us later on. Encouraging...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 29, 2017, 05:53:59 PM
Agree, a very worthwhile game for our hurlers and will surely give them encouragement for the league to come. I think a problem will be when the standard of opposition drops, and the crowd size is poor...the concentration may drop too. Surely that's the biggest impediment to league success (i.e promotion), this season.

Hats off to the County Board for putting on all the activities of this past weekend. A great occasion today.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 29, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Anyone know how the hurlers did v down last night in a challenge match

I bought an Irish news this morning for the first time in ages
Three pages on C J Mc Gourty but not a pip on this weekends festival of hurling in honour of father Reid including the all Ireland champions spending the weekend there training and playing our hurlers on Sunday
WTF
I'm sure we can guess who the "journalist" was with the CJ piece!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2017, 07:34:40 PM
Good effort today by our seniors, they might not be the most talented senior squad we ever had but certainly one the most honest in terms of effort ( what more can you ask for )
The loss of shorty ( half time after hitting 1.01 ) and the Mc manus injury took a bit of sting out of our attack but we battled away to the whistle
John Dillon did as good as any full back did last summer on callanan
When tipp where six down at half time they sprung Benny Maher and he had an immediate effect
Young Rooney has come on leaps and bounds and kept john Mc grath to two points
Simon Mc Crorry was outstanding as always

we have to learn how to get more useful ball in at times
Our short game was good but long ball very 50/50


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 09:37:47 AM

If only there was a way of playing these types of teams in a meaningful way, in the early spring on a regular basis in some sort of home and away format...... :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 30, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 27, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Anyone know how the hurlers did v down last night in a challenge match

I bought an Irish news this morning for the first time in ages
Three pages on C J Mc Gourty but not a pip on this weekends festival of hurling in honour of father Reid including the all Ireland champions spending the weekend there training and playing our hurlers on Sunday
WTF

The irish news is nothing more than a cheer leader for football. Its the main focus every day. You have football men for basically all the columns now and it gets boring reading the same dross each week about how Down, Derry, Armagh and Tyrone are doing each week. change the record ffs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 10:42:13 AM
In fairness I think this current bunch of
Players and management are trying their best to get promoted again
It's a pity we couldn't get players like Saul and l Ryan Mc Cambridge to commit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 10:42:13 AM
In fairness I think this current bunch of
Players and management are trying their best to get promoted again
It's a pity we couldn't get players like Saul and l Ryan Mc Cambridge to commit

Im not knocking that at all and yeah we should have everyone committed and pushing it forward, unfortunate that we dont.

I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend. I suppose that's what happens when there are external bodies involved. Not to take away from the meaning of the weekend etc just IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 10:56:59 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 10:42:13 AM
In fairness I think this current bunch of
Players and management are trying their best to get promoted again
It's a pity we couldn't get players like Saul and l Ryan Mc Cambridge to commit

I actually forgot about McCambridge not playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
"I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend"

Over the top a wee bit there??  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
"I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend"

Over the top a wee bit there??  ::)

As I said IMO.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
"I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend"

Over the top a wee bit there??  ::)

As I said IMO.

Usual for the all Ireland champs to receive a bit of that and our players didn't behave   like uncle toms once the whistle blew
They where our guest and where there to pay homage to one of their own and treated accordingly
But I know where your coming from
More positives than negatives
Kids getting to meet all Ireland champs and watch our lads put it up to them
God knows hurling needs all the promotion to kids round Belfast it can get

Imm away to buy an Irish news to see if CJ was there yesterday, they might even mention the match  😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 30, 2017, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
"I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend"
Over the top a wee bit there??  ::)

It's standard GAA protocol for the AI champions to be greeted onto the field with a guard of honour if that's what you are referring to.  Not sure what you mean by Uncle Tom comment  but I doubt if slavery terms are that appropriate for a GAA game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 30, 2017, 01:30:18 PM
Wasn't at the game but by all reports we gave a solid honest account of ourselves. That's exactly what we want.

We will inevitably fall into the old 'the best hurlers aren't hurling for the county' at some point this season but we must get over that.

We have a great bunch of committed hurlers who are doing everything to hurl for our county. Lets get behind them during this league campaign. Now more than ever, they need our support.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 30, 2017, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
"I just got a bit sickened at the doffing the cap and uncle tom attitude to the weekend"
Over the top a wee bit there??  ::)

It's standard GAA protocol for the AI champions to be greeted onto the field with a guard of honour if that's what you are referring to.  Not sure what you mean by Uncle Tom comment  but I doubt if slavery terms are that appropriate for a GAA game.

It wasn't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
For the last 12 months the county has been splashed over the papers with negative news about gambling amongst players, unrest in the county board, no casement park etc and now finally when the county has been in the news publicly, people still find fault. I don't think giving Tipp the respect that they were due is any embarassment. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
For the last 12 months the county has been splashed over the papers with negative news about gambling amongst players, unrest in the county board, no casement park etc and now finally when the county has been in the news publicly, people still find fault. I don't think giving Tipp the respect that they were due is any embarassment.

My point has nothing to do with giving Tipp their due respect. My point is more of a lament that we are now a county who are resigned to playing invitational matches and dressing it up, than we are to actually competing with these types of teams every year.

Kind of along the lines of the after match speeches of what a good job we are doing up here to keep the hurling going etc

I accept the reality of where we are but that doesnt mean that I have to like it, I would rather have them coming up to us in the next couple of weeks and having a full on crack at them. I would never be one for fawning over anyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 30, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 30, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
For the last 12 months the county has been splashed over the papers with negative news about gambling amongst players, unrest in the county board, no casement park etc and now finally when the county has been in the news publicly, people still find fault. I don't think giving Tipp the respect that they were due is any embarassment.

My point has nothing to do with giving Tipp their due respect. My point is more of a lament that we are now a county who are resigned to playing invitational matches and dressing it up, than we are to actually competing with these types of teams every year.

Kind of along the lines of the after match speeches of what a good job we are doing up here to keep the hurling going etc

I accept the reality of where we are but that doesnt mean that I have to like it, I would rather have them coming up to us in the next couple of weeks and having a full on crack at them. I would never be one for fawning over anyone.

Point well made and hard to argue with I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2017, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 10:42:13 AM
In fairness I think this current bunch of
Players and management are trying their best to get promoted again
It's a pity we couldn't get players like Saul and l Ryan Mc Cambridge to commit

Saul is back in the county set up if I'm not mistaken. He's a great lad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 30, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
I don't believe he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 30, 2017, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on January 30, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
I don't believe he is.

Don't believe he is is back in the set up, or don't believe that he is a great lad?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
I thought I'd seen a post on facebook a week or two ago ....Maybe not though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
I thought I'd seen a post on facebook a week or two ago ....Maybe not though.

No he ain't hurling this year, is he not playing soccer
By all accounts a nice lad but to much of a free spirit for the discipline of intercounty
Pity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 30, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
I think the post on Saul was a FB post from this time last year, not a bad lad but forget about him or we'll end up with the same will he won't he saga that drained us for 10 years with that other clown from Warwickshire!!
Really enjoyed the game thought some great showings, the full back line stuck to their job,not helped ( other than Simon) by the HB line who where poor. Woody scored 2 and cost us 3 times that. Campbell I heard was sick this week and wasn't in any way instrumental during the game. D.McK gave way to many frees away but tried. The half forward line really clicked when McManus and Shorty switched and we got some great scoresellers in the first half. I was really pleased overall with Magill who gave it a lash., Conor and Clarky got some nice scores.
On a sad note I'd say McManus is out of the league with a broken cheekbone. Just when we got Shorty back!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 07:18:43 PM
Yeah I Heard MCManus has a broken cheekbone and he is gettting married in April as well
Just when he was getting some form together after a year out
Woody was a bit slack on his man in second half for sure but played ok and way better than our CHB
Mc crory was outstanding but his delivery is a bit easy for defenders
I thought magill was one of our worst forwards


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 30, 2017, 07:45:11 PM
Yeh Clyde was poor , but to be fair i'd have never have thought of him as skillful/mobile enough for CHB, Neil McAuley certainly isn't the option so perhaps a move into 6 might suit woody more. I'd wouldn't have called Magill a forward more a another sweeper which drives me mad. We are going to have to make do with some players agree with your take on Simon Tbh but it's his effort that a lot of players have been missing over the last few years. Kevin McKauige worth a look at .the subs were absolutely atrocious, young Murphy had more ball in 15 mins that many but duck out of water I'm afraid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 08:04:26 PM
If Campbell sick that explains his performance he was sweeping but ineffective
Young murphy struggled but a lovely hurler and will come good
Just a bit light yet
i agree with our bench
Tipp sprung maher and Cahill and the impact was immediate at the same time we had lost shorty and Mc manus
as for the league it's gonna be tough to get promotion
Carlow starting to motor Nicely, Westmeath will have there collage players back and Kildare have ripped the arse out of the five player from other counties rule bringing in john Mulholl (Kilkenny) the reidy brothers from Limerick and another from tipp.
We could have done with Mc manus truth be told
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on January 31, 2017, 12:30:41 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2017, 06:06:26 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
I thought I'd seen a post on facebook a week or two ago ....Maybe not though.

No he ain't hurling this year, is he not playing soccer
By all accounts a nice lad but to much of a free spirit for the discipline of intercounty
Pity

Signed for Coleraine FC I heard few weeks ago. He's an unreal talent but like you say, wouldn't have the commitment levels required for the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: concernedgaa on February 01, 2017, 12:28:27 PM
Some critical assessments by Handup and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to call the subs "absolutely atrocious " IMO is harsh to say the least.  This is a squad of players who are giving "COMMITMENT to Antrim Hurling something that the past "stars" lacked.  Shouldn't criticise players for not doing well against the AI Champions "trying" and emptying the tank is what seemed to be the case and you can't ask for anything more. IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 01, 2017, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: concernedgaa on February 01, 2017, 12:28:27 PM
Some critical assessments by Handup and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to call the subs "absolutely atrocious " IMO is harsh to say the least.  This is a squad of players who are giving "COMMITMENT to Antrim Hurling something that the past "stars" lacked.  Shouldn't criticise players for not doing well against the AI Champions "trying" and emptying the tank is what seemed to be the case and you can't ask for anything more. IMO

+1

There's plenty to be positive about. From what I've heard, those who are there are giving their all. That'll do me for now. The quality of the players available may need to improve but that's a conveyor belt issue and not the fault of those giving their all in the senior setup 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Graffin back soon?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 01, 2017, 06:42:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Graffin back soon?

Don't think so maybe some of the dall posters know more but I heard his legs are at him and he is giving the county a miss
He's been out a while and fitness is a big focus with current management
Serious operater all the same 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 01, 2017, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 01, 2017, 06:42:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Graffin back soon?

Don't think so maybe some of the dall posters know more but I heard his legs are at him and he is giving the county a miss
He's been out a while and fitness is a big focus with current management
Serious operater all the same
He's still in Australia
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on February 01, 2017, 08:37:12 PM



Quote
Some critical assessments by Handup and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to call the subs "absolutely atrocious " IMO is harsh to say the least.  This is a squad of players who are giving "COMMITMENT to Antrim Hurling something that the past "stars" lacked.  Shouldn't criticise players for not doing well against the AI Champions "trying" and emptying the tank is what seemed to be the case and you can't ask for anything more. IMO

I was telling it as I saw it and had said in my initial post that some lads were pleasing in areas of the game. My comment on the subs was on the performances of Maol Connelly and Deaghlan Murphy, neither will ever be County stars, although  Maol will perhaps upset a good hurler.
I hope Graffin looks after himself this year, which is what I'm hearing is his plan. Sambo was at Martin Burke door looking him back!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 03, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 01, 2017, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 01, 2017, 06:42:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Graffin back soon?

Don't think so maybe some of the dall posters know more but I heard his legs are at him and he is giving the county a miss
He's been out a while and fitness is a big focus with current management
Serious operater all the same
He's still in Australia

Is he hurling out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2017, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting

Was there an over 40's game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 04, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting

A lot of games are going to Corrigan while there are many better grounds with better facilities. I think we should question the reasons for that. I also think the All Ireland Champions should be treated with greater respect. They travelled all the way up here the least we can do is provide them with the very best facilities we can offer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 04, 2017, 04:03:21 PM
I see the Feile crowd & Promote West Belfast where official partners in Antrim v Tipp weekend

Can't think why they are taking such an interest in Gaa this last few months  :-X

#getCasementbuilt  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 04, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting

A lot of games are going to Corrigan while there are many better grounds with better facilities. I think we should question the reasons for that. I also think the All Ireland Champions should be treated with greater respect. They travelled all the way up here the least we can do is provide them with the very best facilities we can offer.

They never complained seems they had a wonderful experience
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2017, 07:54:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2017, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on February 04, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting

A lot of games are going to Corrigan while there are many better grounds with better facilities. I think we should question the reasons for that. I also think the All Ireland Champions should be treated with greater respect. They travelled all the way up here the least we can do is provide them with the very best facilities we can offer.

They never complained seems they had a wonderful experience

Maybe I am wrong in saying this but was it not a weekend to commemorate the life of Fr Alec Reid? Why would it leave the city? Of course there is better ground and facilities than Corrigan but they did a super job from what I can hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2017, 08:38:55 AM
Quote from: bogieman on February 04, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Why so many negative posts about the belfast tipp festival weekend... It seems to be getting used to have cheap swipes at your own county.

Antrim are not at the level to competitively battle with the top hurling teams, so drop the romantic notions of this and get serious supporting and improving your county.

Thanks to tipp for the weekend and a great challenge match, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

PS I heard at the match that Antrim beat Kilkenny in the 40's in corrigan park
PSS well done St. John's for hosting

Quote from: Saffrongael on February 04, 2017, 04:03:21 PM
I see the Feile crowd & Promote West Belfast where official partners in Antrim v Tipp weekend

Can't think why they are taking such an interest in Gaa this last few months  :-X

#getCasementbuilt  ;)

This has been my bug bear about the whole process to date, why are they even involved never mind taking the lead in parts of it. Ask yourself.

Bogieman, read back and you will see my issues with the weekend, not swiping at the my own county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 06, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
I'm honestly completely dismayed at the comments regarding the recent visit of Tipperary.
Lets be quite clear here (as someone who is often critical of our county administration).

1) This visit was resounding success. A lower level hurling county like ourselves come a long way to visit and spend time here with our own young Gaels would have been cherished in any other similar county. There was nothing negative about that weekend whatsoever.

2) The sue of Corrigan for the game was a no-brainer. The origin of the weekend was the link with Fr Reid and Corrigan is the closest venue to Clonard Monastry. Remember the visit would not have  happened without the Redemptorist link. If the inference is that the game should have been played in North Antrim I can assure you Tipperary had no desire to put more miles on the clock after the various events they had participated in around the area - many on behalf of their own county link.
The game had no reason to be played anywhere else - God forbid some Glensmen might have to come to Belfast to see the All-Ireland Champions - blame Fr Reid.

3) Criticising Corrigan's facilities is really a strange one. Many clubs in Tipperary would be glad of them. I'm not sure that you think the Tipp lads normally train in venues with gold plated toilet seats? This is the GAA, catch yourselves on - the venue was fine. Anyone who was there couldn't complain.

4) The involvement of the West Belfast Festival and Partnership has also been mentioned. Quite simply they helped finance the visit. Their representitives were therefore most welcome - as any sponsor would be.


I really find it incredulous that this weekend and visit was subject to any criticism.
We're a lesser hurling county who had the all-Ireland champions come along way to train and engage with our young Gaels, and play a game against us in our back yard. All at minimal cost to ourselves. I mean if people here can see that as a massive success then I really think you need to look in the mirror and ask questions of yourself before anything else. Would there be anything that would make you happy?




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2017, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 06, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
I'm honestly completely dismayed at the comments regarding the recent visit of Tipperary.
Lets be quite clear here (as someone who is often critical of our county administration).

1) This visit was resounding success. A lower level hurling county like ourselves come a long way to visit and spend time here with our own young Gaels would have been cherished in any other similar county. There was nothing negative about that weekend whatsoever.

2) The sue of Corrigan for the game was a no-brainer. The origin of the weekend was the link with Fr Reid and Corrigan is the closest venue to Clonard Monastry. Remember the visit would not have  happened without the Redemptorist link. If the inference is that the game should have been played in North Antrim I can assure you Tipperary had no desire to put more miles on the clock after the various events they had participated in around the area - many on behalf of their own county link.
The game had no reason to be played anywhere else - God forbid some Glensmen might have to come to Belfast to see the All-Ireland Champions - blame Fr Reid.

3) Criticising Corrigan's facilities is really a strange one. Many clubs in Tipperary would be glad of them. I'm not sure that you think the Tipp lads normally train in venues with gold plated toilet seats? This is the GAA, catch yourselves on - the venue was fine. Anyone who was there couldn't complain.

4) The involvement of the West Belfast Festival and Partnership has also been mentioned. Quite simply they helped finance the visit. Their representitives were therefore most welcome - as any sponsor would be.


I really find it incredulous that this weekend and visit was subject to any criticism.
We're a lesser hurling county who had the all-Ireland champions come along way to train and engage with our young Gaels, and play a game against us in our back yard. All at minimal cost to ourselves. I mean if people here can see that as a massive success then I really think you need to look in the mirror and ask questions of yourself before anything else. Would there be anything that would make you happy?

What questions would you like me to ask?

I have never once said that the impact on the kids was the most important part of the weekend for me.

My point is simply that it got dressed up into some big thing when it was a friendly. Point being that it was not that long ago that we had these teams coming up every spring and we were 'competing' with them, it was more of a lament on my part now (as I said) that we are no longer in the position and that we are reduced to hosting them in a dressed up friendly. I respect them as All Ireland champs, but I do not go in for this 'fan boy' attitude. I would rather we got our house in order and were meeting them as equals.

No qualms with Corrigan or St John's.

I have long has a serious issue with 'Feile' being involved so heavily in the Casement project and this is another way that they are accessing our inner decision making structures. Who is running the show, county board or felie?


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 06, 2017, 12:30:33 PM
I see corrigan is getting the London game in the league
Have Ballycastle lost their county temporary grounds status
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 06, 2017, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2017, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 06, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
I'm honestly completely dismayed at the comments regarding the recent visit of Tipperary.
Lets be quite clear here (as someone who is often critical of our county administration).

1) This visit was resounding success. A lower level hurling county like ourselves come a long way to visit and spend time here with our own young Gaels would have been cherished in any other similar county. There was nothing negative about that weekend whatsoever.

2) The sue of Corrigan for the game was a no-brainer. The origin of the weekend was the link with Fr Reid and Corrigan is the closest venue to Clonard Monastry. Remember the visit would not have  happened without the Redemptorist link. If the inference is that the game should have been played in North Antrim I can assure you Tipperary had no desire to put more miles on the clock after the various events they had participated in around the area - many on behalf of their own county link.
The game had no reason to be played anywhere else - God forbid some Glensmen might have to come to Belfast to see the All-Ireland Champions - blame Fr Reid.

3) Criticising Corrigan's facilities is really a strange one. Many clubs in Tipperary would be glad of them. I'm not sure that you think the Tipp lads normally train in venues with gold plated toilet seats? This is the GAA, catch yourselves on - the venue was fine. Anyone who was there couldn't complain.

4) The involvement of the West Belfast Festival and Partnership has also been mentioned. Quite simply they helped finance the visit. Their representitives were therefore most welcome - as any sponsor would be.


I really find it incredulous that this weekend and visit was subject to any criticism.
We're a lesser hurling county who had the all-Ireland champions come along way to train and engage with our young Gaels, and play a game against us in our back yard. All at minimal cost to ourselves. I mean if people here can see that as a massive success then I really think you need to look in the mirror and ask questions of yourself before anything else. Would there be anything that would make you happy?

What questions would you like me to ask?
If I was so negative about such a positive weekend - I'd question myself as to why. Why the need?

I have never once said that the impact on the kids was the most important part of the weekend for me.

My point is simply that it got dressed up into some big thing when it was a friendly. That's your opinion. Anyone I spoke to at the game was very much aware it was just a friendly. In fact for most the emphasis was on kids meeting the Tipp team - not the game at all. Point being that it was not that long ago that we had these teams coming up every spring and we were 'competing' with them, it was more of a lament on my part now (as I said) that we are no longer in the position and that we are reduced to hosting them in a dressed up friendly. That ship has long since sailed - you may as well lament for cheap cigarettes and alcohol. I respect them as All Ireland champs, but I do not go in for this 'fan boy' attitude.If you can't be a fan of the all-Ireland champions the I'd be asking myself who can be? Nobody put up statues of them - but it was fantastic for kids to meet them. I would rather we got our house in order and were meeting them as equals. Grand, but that's a separate point tot he fact that it was a great weekend.

No qualms with Corrigan or St John's.

I have long has a serious issue with 'Feile' being involved so heavily in the Casement project and this is another way that they are accessing our inner decision making structures. Who is running the show, county board or felie?

I've long commented that GAA affairs should be free from outside influence, be it Feile or political parties. The Feile lads were sponsors, so they were involved. They didn't access any structures of make any decisions. I've no idea why you think they did. If it was say Creagh Concrete that put money in - would you not expect to see them there too? Trust me I want quangos and politics nowhere near our structures or the new Casement - but that's not what this weekend was about.

It was a great weekend.
We'd the all-Ireland champions in our home patch for a game and to meet kids.
Just enjoy it for heavens sake.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2017, 01:22:43 PM
I said this was my opinion in my initial posts on the subject and they are still my opinions.

I respect your opinions to think that it was a great weekend and for the kids yes it was. And my views are similar along those lines.
We can agree to disagree on the other aspects of the weekend, as this is a forum of opinions.

However I will take exception with the Felie element, I think you/ we are being totally naive to believe that a special interest group would get involved in an exercise like this for anything other than serving their own agenda. I'm not saying that this was purpose behind the weekend but it is a drip feed approach toward an end game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 06, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
The London game is in Corrigan and I've heard Kildare and Westmeath are coming to Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2017, 01:22:43 PM
I said this was my opinion in my initial posts on the subject and they are still my opinions.

I respect your opinions to think that it was a great weekend and for the kids yes it was. And my views are similar along those lines.
We can agree to disagree on the other aspects of the weekend, as this is a forum of opinions.

However I will take exception with the Felie element, I think you/ we are being totally naive to believe that a special interest group would get involved in an exercise like this for anything other than serving their own agenda. I'm not saying that this was purpose behind the weekend but it is a drip feed approach toward an end game.

Yeah I would agree totally NAG, it's fairly obvious to anyone with a bit of wit, and has been going on for a while. Feile & Failte Feirste Thiar (same crowd basically) Heavily involved in the consultation process, involved in the "Gaels 4 Casement" group & the "get casement built" movement.

If people think they are doing this out of any love for the Gaa or for the good of their health they need their head examined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2017, 09:27:47 PM
Who really cares? Get the damm thing built it's a bloody embarrassment tbh!!! If they want some use of it for concerts and functions then what's wrong with that? It's owned now by the Ulster council now?

If people can generate money for when it's not in use (like Croke) then brilliant? It will still be a GAA pitch st the end of the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2017, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 06, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
It was that very simplistic mindset that has got us to where we are now.

Thankfully the GAA seemed to have learned from this, even if you haven't.

Have they?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on February 07, 2017, 12:22:57 AM
Heavy duty recriminations and discontent with SV at mtg tonight .....! No room for anyone else at tòp table... it's SV or be dawned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 07, 2017, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 06, 2017, 12:30:33 PM
I see corrigan is getting the London game in the league
Have Ballycastle lost their county temporary grounds status

From speaking to people from Ballycastle last year they didnt want the games again this year. The damage done to the two pitches at this stage of the year took it out on them. the money they received in hosting didnt justify what was spent to fix them over the course of the year.

Thats what i was told, whether thats the official line is another matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2017, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 07, 2017, 12:22:57 AM
Heavy duty recriminations and discontent with SV at mtg tonight .....! No room for anyone else at tòp table... it's SV or be dawned

Hardly a closed shop??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 07, 2017, 10:53:49 AM
championship draws next monday night at the county meeting. I know its only Feb and all the pre-seasons have started again but im looking forward to the start of the new season. was at my first club game of the year at the weekend and it was good to get out onto a pitch and the running of a team again.

Interested to see this years draw and who we get.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

What are the GAA giving up for their support?
Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

Their interest is clearly in the future of West Belfast - which is best served by a new Casement - what's so difficult to understand? Why aren't you targeting everyone who voices support for new Casement?

What are the GAA giving up for their support? Nothing. What do you think they could or would give up? How? Why would anyone want them to give anything up?

Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
What's happening is that an organisation charged with promoting West Belfast is supporting a new stadium in West Belfast. It'd be highly curious if they were not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

Their interest is clearly in the future of West Belfast - which is best served by a new Casement - what's so difficult to understand? Why aren't you targeting everyone who voices support for new Casement?

What are the GAA giving up for their support? Nothing. What do you think they could or would give up? How? Why would anyone want them to give anything up?

Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
What's happening is that an organisation charged with promoting West Belfast is supporting a new stadium in West Belfast. It'd be highly curious if they were not.

So you believe that in exchange for their support they are not being offered anything? Naive much?

I for one as an Antrim Gael do not want us to be giving up the rights to our own county ground, with no say in when its open, for how many games and whether we will have access to it etc etc etc I also as part of that take issue with a special interest group, exerting external influence on promoting this, until we as a collective of Antrim gaels have been given reassurances around these issues.

To extend the point further, I want what is best for Antrim GAA - not what will regenerate West Belfast. If the two happen to coincide then mores the better but not at the expense of the first.

It is not the responsibility of or the gift of anyone one to give up the rights to our county ground simply to get a stadium built to suit the needs of Ulster council.

Therefore anyone who is supportive of pushing this through I consider to have an ulterior motive in this.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2017, 04:21:50 PM
So have we (Antrim) not already given up the rights to the Ulster council? and you are happy enough to reap the benefits from Croke Park who on regular occurrences give Croke Park over to various sports and concerts and whatever other functions that are carried in its rooms upstairs to generate a revenue?

Tell me what are these things NAG1 that are going to hurt Antrim? Id be very curious to know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 07, 2017, 06:12:08 PM
Happy to take public money but have a problem when the public offer an opinion?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 07, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
I don't think its unreasonable for Antrim Gaels to be curious as to what rights of access etc we have to our former county ground once the new facility is complete.    Or have we just given it up for the greater good?

- there used to be advertising hoarding around the ground which presumably generated income- we just lose that?
- we used to have our admin offices etc at the ground, rent free, overhead light.  do we now rent somewhere at a cost or does the new casement facilitate new offices
-presumably when we hosted ulster finals and the like before, we got a share of the gate.  Is that now lost income?
- do we have free access to it in the future for county matches?  club matches/county finals
- This is with the benefit of hindsight but I really don't understand why the whole place was vacated and mothballed so many years ago when planning was not complete, never mind construction commencing

In other words, what exactly is the deal from antrims perspective.  Maybe there are logical answers to it all.

Maybe we were smart and we have a deal with Ulster Council that is similar to the old Linfield/IFA Windsor Park deal where Linfield were basically paid a ludicrous rent that gave them an unfair advantage over all the soccer bods. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2017, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: podge on February 07, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
I don't think its unreasonable for Antrim Gaels to be curious as to what rights of access etc we have to our former county ground once the new facility is complete.    Or have we just given it up for the greater good?

- there used to be advertising hoarding around the ground which presumably generated income- we just lose that?
- we used to have our admin offices etc at the ground, rent free, overhead light.  do we now rent somewhere at a cost or does the new casement facilitate new offices
-presumably when we hosted ulster finals and the like before, we got a share of the gate.  Is that now lost income?
- do we have free access to it in the future for county matches?  club matches/county finals
- This is with the benefit of hindsight but I really don't understand why the whole place was vacated and mothballed so many years ago when planning was not complete, never mind construction commencing

In other words, what exactly is the deal from antrims perspective.  Maybe there are logical answers to it all.

Maybe we were smart and we have a deal with Ulster Council that is similar to the old Linfield/IFA Windsor Park deal where Linfield were basically paid a ludicrous rent that gave them an unfair advantage over all the soccer bods.

When signing this over was there conditions laid out to ensure some of the things you've mentioned? Would be only guessing or assuming anything at this stage surely??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 07, 2017, 09:08:27 PM
Surely there is a channel to use to get a direct answer as to exactly what Antrim GAA are getting out of it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2017, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 07, 2017, 09:08:27 PM
Surely there is a channel to use to get a direct answer as to exactly what Antrim GAA are getting out of it?
Would one of your dedicated clubmen with years of club commitment and now county commitment not be in a better position to tell you rather than the hearsay on here??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

Their interest is clearly in the future of West Belfast - which is best served by a new Casement - what's so difficult to understand? Why aren't you targeting everyone who voices support for new Casement?

What are the GAA giving up for their support? Nothing. What do you think they could or would give up? How? Why would anyone want them to give anything up?

Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
What's happening is that an organisation charged with promoting West Belfast is supporting a new stadium in West Belfast. It'd be highly curious if they were not.

So you believe that in exchange for their support they are not being offered anything? Naive much?

So either I am naive or you are a conspiracy theorist. I'll take that - especially since I've explained why they support casement already - but you have been unable to tell me what exactly they have "been offered" or why.

I for one as an Antrim Gael do not want us to be giving up the rights to our own county ground, with no say in when its open, for how many games and whether we will have access to it etc etc etc I also as part of that take issue with a special interest group, exerting external influence on promoting this, until we as a collective of Antrim gaels have been given reassurances around these issues.

No argument there. But that's an old debate on the Casement Project between Antrim and Ulster Council - it's got absolutely nothing to do with the "Feile Crowd"

To extend the point further, I want what is best for Antrim GAA - not what will regenerate West Belfast. If the two happen to coincide then mores the better but not at the expense of the first.
Nice for you. But the public money has been allocated for the project at Casement. Your point here is irrelevant again. The money was allocated to Casement Project in conjunction with ravenhill and Windsor - it's not an argument about West Belfast community Vs Antrim GAA. The money is going to casement - nowhere else. Get over it.

It is not the responsibility of or the gift of anyone one to give up the rights to our county ground simply to get a stadium built to suit the needs of Ulster council. You're coming to this debate a bit late - scroll back a load of pages. I was one person who argued the same.

Therefore anyone who is supportive of pushing this through I consider to have an ulterior motive in this. Let's try again. The motive of the "Feile crowd" is the future of West Belfast. They support a regenerated Casement as part of that. They are duty bound to support the project in the area - and so they do - they don't want anything from the GAA other than the stadium built  - they are doing their job by lobbying in support of it - the new Stadium is of mutual interest to West Belfast and Antrim GAA - that's the motive - not some hidden agenda to take over the world via Antrim GAA (although you have yet to tell us what it is you think other than your conspiracy theory).

Your points about Project Casement - are a different debate altogether, and an old one.
Your points about the Feile crowd - they are wild conspiracy theories and to be quite frank the "Feile crowd" have the ear of movers and shakers well beyond Antrim GAA, it's laughable to think Antrim GAA can be used for anything we are small fry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

Their interest is clearly in the future of West Belfast - which is best served by a new Casement - what's so difficult to understand? Why aren't you targeting everyone who voices support for new Casement?

What are the GAA giving up for their support? Nothing. What do you think they could or would give up? How? Why would anyone want them to give anything up?

Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
What's happening is that an organisation charged with promoting West Belfast is supporting a new stadium in West Belfast. It'd be highly curious if they were not.

So you believe that in exchange for their support they are not being offered anything? Naive much?

So either I am naive or you are a conspiracy theorist. I'll take that - especially since I've explained why they support casement already - but you have been unable to tell me what exactly they have "been offered" or why.

I for one as an Antrim Gael do not want us to be giving up the rights to our own county ground, with no say in when its open, for how many games and whether we will have access to it etc etc etc I also as part of that take issue with a special interest group, exerting external influence on promoting this, until we as a collective of Antrim gaels have been given reassurances around these issues.

No argument there. But that's an old debate on the Casement Project between Antrim and Ulster Council - it's got absolutely nothing to do with the "Feile Crowd"

To extend the point further, I want what is best for Antrim GAA - not what will regenerate West Belfast. If the two happen to coincide then mores the better but not at the expense of the first.
Nice for you. But the public money has been allocated for the project at Casement. Your point here is irrelevant again. The money was allocated to Casement Project in conjunction with ravenhill and Windsor - it's not an argument about West Belfast community Vs Antrim GAA. The money is going to casement - nowhere else. Get over it.

It is not the responsibility of or the gift of anyone one to give up the rights to our county ground simply to get a stadium built to suit the needs of Ulster council. You're coming to this debate a bit late - scroll back a load of pages. I was one person who argued the same.

Therefore anyone who is supportive of pushing this through I consider to have an ulterior motive in this. Let's try again. The motive of the "Feile crowd" is the future of West Belfast. They support a regenerated Casement as part of that. They are duty bound to support the project in the area - and so they do - they don't want anything from the GAA other than the stadium built  - they are doing their job by lobbying in support of it - the new Stadium is of mutual interest to West Belfast and Antrim GAA - that's the motive - not some hidden agenda to take over the world via Antrim GAA (although you have yet to tell us what it is you think other than your conspiracy theory).

Your points about Project Casement - are a different debate altogether, and an old one.
Your points about the Feile crowd - they are wild conspiracy theories and to be quite frank the "Feile crowd" have the ear of movers and shakers well beyond Antrim GAA, it's laughable to think Antrim GAA can be used for anything we are small fry!

Do you not see that you have already dismissed your own side of the debate, why do they need the ear of anyone? Why all of a sudden are they so heavily involved in Antrim matters?

Not conspiracy theories or anything of the sort merely pointing out the obvious and questioning it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 07, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 07, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
The "Feile Crowd" are more than entitled and welcome to lobby in support of a new stadium in the area - there would be something wrong if they didn't. Many other bodies are also supporting the campaign - there's nothing unusual in this. Don't forget it's Casement is public money not GAA money.

That's totally different to having a formal say in any GAA matters which they do not and never will.

Sorry guys I think you're just being wild conspiracy theorists on this one.

And I say that as a Gael who is loathe to anyone outside the GAA interfering in our affairs!

Glad to see the NHL games will be shared around.

It is public money that has been assigned to Sporting Organisations i.e. IRFU - Ulster the Soccer men and Ulster GAA - not to community activists or lobbyists. I think it is naive in the extreme to think that they are in it for anything other than their own interests long term.

Their interest is clearly in the future of West Belfast - which is best served by a new Casement - what's so difficult to understand? Why aren't you targeting everyone who voices support for new Casement?

What are the GAA giving up for their support? Nothing. What do you think they could or would give up? How? Why would anyone want them to give anything up?

Not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening.
What's happening is that an organisation charged with promoting West Belfast is supporting a new stadium in West Belfast. It'd be highly curious if they were not.

So you believe that in exchange for their support they are not being offered anything? Naive much?

So either I am naive or you are a conspiracy theorist. I'll take that - especially since I've explained why they support casement already - but you have been unable to tell me what exactly they have "been offered" or why.

I for one as an Antrim Gael do not want us to be giving up the rights to our own county ground, with no say in when its open, for how many games and whether we will have access to it etc etc etc I also as part of that take issue with a special interest group, exerting external influence on promoting this, until we as a collective of Antrim gaels have been given reassurances around these issues.

No argument there. But that's an old debate on the Casement Project between Antrim and Ulster Council - it's got absolutely nothing to do with the "Feile Crowd"

To extend the point further, I want what is best for Antrim GAA - not what will regenerate West Belfast. If the two happen to coincide then mores the better but not at the expense of the first.
Nice for you. But the public money has been allocated for the project at Casement. Your point here is irrelevant again. The money was allocated to Casement Project in conjunction with ravenhill and Windsor - it's not an argument about West Belfast community Vs Antrim GAA. The money is going to casement - nowhere else. Get over it.

It is not the responsibility of or the gift of anyone one to give up the rights to our county ground simply to get a stadium built to suit the needs of Ulster council. You're coming to this debate a bit late - scroll back a load of pages. I was one person who argued the same.

Therefore anyone who is supportive of pushing this through I consider to have an ulterior motive in this. Let's try again. The motive of the "Feile crowd" is the future of West Belfast. They support a regenerated Casement as part of that. They are duty bound to support the project in the area - and so they do - they don't want anything from the GAA other than the stadium built  - they are doing their job by lobbying in support of it - the new Stadium is of mutual interest to West Belfast and Antrim GAA - that's the motive - not some hidden agenda to take over the world via Antrim GAA (although you have yet to tell us what it is you think other than your conspiracy theory).

Your points about Project Casement - are a different debate altogether, and an old one.
Your points about the Feile crowd - they are wild conspiracy theories and to be quite frank the "Feile crowd" have the ear of movers and shakers well beyond Antrim GAA, it's laughable to think Antrim GAA can be used for anything we are small fry!

Do you not see that you have already dismissed your own side of the debate, why do they need the ear of anyone? Why all of a sudden are they so heavily involved in Antrim matters?

And again - they have the ears of people outside of the GAA for non-GAA matters - they don't need Antrim GAA at all, and don't want whatever it is your grand conspiracy theory thinks - because you have never said.

Simple. Here goes. Again.
They are a group tasked to improve West Belfast - supporting a West Belfast project.
It really is that simple. So much so that if they were not proactively supporting Casement - I for one would be asking why not.

Not conspiracy theories or anything of the sort merely pointing out the obvious and questioning it.
And you have got your answer. Over and over again. You just prefer to disregard what is blatently simple & obvious in favour some West Belfast conspiracy masterplan in your head.
What about the Ulster Council & Stormont Ministers from both sides of our politics which this "Feile Crowd" have also met to promote a project in West Belfast - are they part of your conspiracy too?

I'm starting to think the Tipperary match should have been played up the Glens NAG - let you lads could have organise it, finance it, you wouldn't have needed to go to Belfast to see it, and we could have checked out how us McCooeys can invent conspiracy theories as a result.

Give it up man - it's a simple situation that is been easily explained. You just been watching a bit much TV to accept that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
Read back over my posts, no issue with the venue for the match no issue with the match itself or the activities around it.

As I said its not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening. Nothing to do with NA/ Belfast divide, a simple observation.

You are saying they are lobbying group charged with developing W Belfast?

"Féile an Phobail -
Féile an Phobail was established in West Belfast in 1988 and has evolved to become one of the major arts and festival organisations in the north of Ireland. Its growth over the past 24 years has been rapid and the organisation now provides an annual programme that are firmly entrenched in Ireland's festival calendar."

Tell me where in that mission statement it says that they are experts in stadiums/ Redevelopment?

I will spell it out for you once more IMO this is not a West Belfast stadium, this is an Antrim County stadium, therefore anyone exerting influence on the consultation/ design/ building of a stadium for their own reasons be that the redevelopment of West Belfast, economic regeneration or for the Arts and Culture of the region, should be answerable to ALL Antrim Gaels.

Again not to confuse the issue, I am not against any of these things happening and would like to see them all happen in fact. But the primary interest for me is to get the best deal/ stadium for a kid in Ballycastle/ Glenarm/ Larne/ Portglenone the same as one from Andersonstown. All other factors are secondary IMO - that means that people who are backing/ promoting the stadium for their own reasons outside of this IMO should be held accountable and declare their interest in any future development.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
Read back over my posts, no issue with the venue for the match no issue with the match itself or the activities around it.

As I said its not a conspiracy theory when it is actually happening. Nothing to do with NA/ Belfast divide, a simple observation.

You are saying they are lobbying group charged with developing W Belfast?

"Féile an Phobail -
Féile an Phobail was established in West Belfast in 1988 and has evolved to become one of the major arts and festival organisations in the north of Ireland. Its growth over the past 24 years has been rapid and the organisation now provides an annual programme that are firmly entrenched in Ireland's festival calendar."

Tell me where in that mission statement it says that they are experts in stadiums/ Redevelopment?

That's why I kept using "" in "Feile Crowd" as it's not the body which is lobbying on behalf of the stadium at all. Maybe you didn't grasp that. Failte Feirste Thiar / Visit West Belfast is one group lobbying in support of the stadium. And equally none of the many bodies (you have singled out only one, and one which is not even involved) lobbying for casement are nor need to be expert's in stadium redevelopment any more that I lobby for a tax deduction but I'm not an accountant.

I will spell it out for you once more IMO this is not a West Belfast stadium, this is an Antrim County stadium, Wrong! The money was allocated to Ulster Council, and once public money is involved there are may stakeholders. Again, that's a separate point and an old debate. therefore anyone exerting influence on the consultation/ design/ building of a stadium for their own reasons be that the redevelopment of West Belfast, economic regeneration or for the Arts and Culture of the region, should be answerable to ALL Antrim Gaels. Being answerable is fine, nobody disputes accountability. You said they shouldn't be involved - that's a different matter. But you should know that in terms of casement the accountability lies to more than just Antrim gaels.

Again not to confuse the issue, I am not against any of these things happening and would like to see them all happen in fact. But the primary interest for me is to get the best deal/ stadium for a kid in Ballycastle/ Glenarm/ Larne/ Portglenone the same as one from Andersonstown. All other factors are secondary IMO - that means that people who are backing/ promoting the stadium for their own reasons outside of this IMO should be held accountable and declare their interest in any future development.

They are accountable, that's why they are lobbying for the stadium. If they didn't they'd be in dereliction of their duty. They are backing the stadium because their interest is in promoting West Belfast - that's their job. If you want a stadium in Larne - get Larne folk to lobby for one. Or maybe those in somewhere like Dunsilly for a random example. It was never within the gift of Antrim GAA to decide where this money was to be spent. It has to be built somewhere - Belfast & Casement is the only option - and that's where the money has been allocated for. Again, you are coming to this debate very late and this is the only show in town - get over it. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
Will you two get a room

The only significant bit here is who owns casement
As nag says it should never have been signed over without consultation of the clubs
The people who where the trustees on land registry didn't own it to sign it over
Casement belongs to the Gaels of Antrim and they should have been consulted
I also heard the sign over fee was paultry
Apparently SV are re-negotiating this to the tune of millions
Or is this another story that's grown a pair of legs
If this happens am I correct in saying casement is then the sole property of Ulster council
I am confused by the whole thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 08, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
Will you two get a room

The only significant bit here is who owns casement
As nag says it should never have been signed over without consultation of the clubs
The people who where the trustees on land registry didn't own it to sign it over
Casement belongs to the Gaels of Antrim and they should have been consulted
I also heard the sign over fee was paultry
Apparently SV are re-negotiating this to the tune of millions
Or is this another story that's grown a pair of legs
If this happens am I correct in saying casement is then the sole property of Ulster council
I am confused by the whole thing

I get NAGs point on this - and I'm in total agreement - indeed it's a point I supported on here months and years ago!

But my point is it's a debate that's got nothing to do with West Belfast or it's quangos!
The slant there was absolute conspiracy paranoia nonsense!

ANd don't hold any breath for SV securing any sort of different deal whatsoever.
The ship has sailed lads.
There WILL be a new Casement.
We WON'T have full control over it.
That was realised long ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Now your talking

What about London this weekend
Dead cert or another banana skin like last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2017, 05:19:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Now your talking

What about London this weekend
Dead cert or another banana skin like last year

We seem to be a different kettle of fish, squad training away and going well by all accounts, I think a win on Sunday by 3/4.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Now your talking

What about London this weekend
Dead cert or another banana skin like last year

Should stuff London by at least 15 points.... regardless of the London lads they are in the intermediate final we should walk away with a handy win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 09, 2017, 08:54:27 AM
Is Liam Watson hurling for London in the national league? i know he did say he would be representing them in the Lory M cup later on this year for London.

Aside from that i would expect our lads to win by 10 or more. Seen them training on sunday morning up at Dunsilly and got chatting to a few of them. All are well up for the league campaign and to get a lash at promotion again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree

No don't get me wrong - I'm no cheerleader for the group at all - or various quangos in "our wee province".

You live in Waterfoot right?
Well excuse me for stating the obvious but you're in no position to say that nobody would notice if they didn't lift a hand again!
We can agree to disagree on some things - but I can point you to many people living in poverty and many projects in West Belfast where people most certainly do notice.
Minder - that's just bulls**t.
You might not particularly like them - I'm no cheerleader - but stick to facts.

Junkets happen everywhere - and West Belfast does need promoted abroad.
On a Saturday morning there's piles of tourists in buses and Black taxis up and down the Falls Road. Walking through the cemeteries. You think they just arrived there by chance? You think three's not some sort of co-ordination to all of this?
Stay in Waterfoot then before you pass comment on something you clearly know nothing about and are just prejudiced about.

Now that said this is a hurling forum - your comments were not only out of place - but factually incorrect.

So to finish things on matters hurling - the "Feile crowd" were positively involved in the Fr Reid Weekend and lend lobbying support to project casement - as they are duty bound to do.
There is no agenda, and no desire to infiltrate and aspect of the GAA.
They wouldn't want to - and it wouldn't be tolerated.  Antrim GAA offers nothing for the group anyway.
Stick to your conspiracy theories, ones which still have never been able to have any motive or substance - and I will stick to facts.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree

No don't get me wrong - I'm no cheerleader for the group at all - or various quangos in "our wee province".

You live in Waterfoot right?
Well excuse me for stating the obvious but you're in no position to say that nobody would notice if they didn't lift a hand again!
We can agree to disagree on some things - but I can point you to many people living in poverty and many projects in West Belfast where people most certainly do notice.
Minder - that's just bulls**t.
You might not particularly like them - I'm no cheerleader - but stick to facts.

Junkets happen everywhere - and West Belfast does need promoted abroad.
On a Saturday morning there's piles of tourists in buses and Black taxis up and down the Falls Road. Walking through the cemeteries. You think they just arrived there by chance? You think three's not some sort of co-ordination to all of this?
Stay in Waterfoot then before you pass comment on something you clearly know nothing about and are just prejudiced about.

Now that said this is a hurling forum - your comments were not only out of place - but factually incorrect.

So to finish things on matters hurling - the "Feile crowd" were positively involved in the Fr Reid Weekend and lend lobbying support to project casement - as they are duty bound to do.
There is no agenda, and no desire to infiltrate and aspect of the GAA.
They wouldn't want to - and it wouldn't be tolerated.  Antrim GAA offers nothing for the group anyway.
Stick to your conspiracy theories, ones which still have never been able to have any motive or substance - and I will stick to facts.

I'm from Waterfoot I have lived in West Belfast for almost 15 years so I am in as good a position as anyone else to comment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 09, 2017, 09:57:31 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree

No don't get me wrong - I'm no cheerleader for the group at all - or various quangos in "our wee province".

You live in Waterfoot right?
Well excuse me for stating the obvious but you're in no position to say that nobody would notice if they didn't lift a hand again!
We can agree to disagree on some things - but I can point you to many people living in poverty and many projects in West Belfast where people most certainly do notice.
Minder - that's just bulls**t.
You might not particularly like them - I'm no cheerleader - but stick to facts.

Junkets happen everywhere - and West Belfast does need promoted abroad.
On a Saturday morning there's piles of tourists in buses and Black taxis up and down the Falls Road. Walking through the cemeteries. You think they just arrived there by chance? You think three's not some sort of co-ordination to all of this?
Stay in Waterfoot then before you pass comment on something you clearly know nothing about and are just prejudiced about.

Now that said this is a hurling forum - your comments were not only out of place - but factually incorrect.

So to finish things on matters hurling - the "Feile crowd" were positively involved in the Fr Reid Weekend and lend lobbying support to project casement - as they are duty bound to do.
There is no agenda, and no desire to infiltrate and aspect of the GAA.
They wouldn't want to - and it wouldn't be tolerated.  Antrim GAA offers nothing for the group anyway.
Stick to your conspiracy theories, ones which still have never been able to have any motive or substance - and I will stick to facts.

I'm from Waterfoot I have lived in West Belfast for almost 15 years so I am in as good a position as anyone else to comment

I think we have touched a nerve on this one Minder.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
Well yes I kind of predicted that response :)
No connection to them at all - indeed I've said I'm no fan of the various quangos we have.
I'm more irritated at the notion anyone (non-GAA) can parachute into our affairs (any GAA affairs)as easy - or that we have something to offer them. It's just nonsense.
You guys are just way off the mark on this one hence you haven't said anything of substance.

And to be perfectly honest what I'm more irritated about is Casement itself.
It going on too long.
It's going to get built - and on that site.
No more debate.
Get it built.
Regardless of anyone's opinions on the politics of it (including mine) a new stadium is preferable to all Antrim Gaels than the current waste ground.
This is the only show in town - the only option.

Enough is enough - build the f**kin thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 09, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
Well yes I kind of predicted that response :)
No connection to them at all - indeed I've said I'm no fan of the various quangos we have.
I'm more irritated at the notion anyone (non-GAA) can parachute into our affairs (any GAA affairs)as easy - or that we have something to offer them. It's just nonsense.And to be perfectly honest what I'm more irritated about is Casement itself.
It going on too long.
It's going to get built - and on that site.
You guys are just way off the mark on this one hence you haven't said anything of substance.


No more debate.
Get it built.
Regardless of anyone's opinions on the politics of it (including mine) a new stadium is preferable to all Antrim Gaels than the current waste ground.
This is the only show in town - the only option.

Enough is enough - build the f**kin thing.

Get it built surely. The quicker the better.

But bear in mind that there will come a point in the future when it is built and we are not allowed on it to play our club finals on a weekend in September because Beyoncé is playing a concert................
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 09, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: Usain on February 09, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
Well yes I kind of predicted that response :)
No connection to them at all - indeed I've said I'm no fan of the various quangos we have.
I'm more irritated at the notion anyone (non-GAA) can parachute into our affairs (any GAA affairs)as easy - or that we have something to offer them. It's just nonsense.And to be perfectly honest what I'm more irritated about is Casement itself.
It going on too long.
It's going to get built - and on that site.
You guys are just way off the mark on this one hence you haven't said anything of substance.


No more debate.
Get it built.
Regardless of anyone's opinions on the politics of it (including mine) a new stadium is preferable to all Antrim Gaels than the current waste ground.
This is the only show in town - the only option.

Enough is enough - build the f**kin thing.

Get it built surely. The quicker the better.

But bear in mind that there will come a point in the future when it is built and we are not allowed on it to play our club finals on a weekend in September because Beyoncé is playing a concert................

She'll be to busy with my twins..

Maybe get Garth Brooks though, plenty of checked shirts and cowboys around the wild west..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree

No don't get me wrong - I'm no cheerleader for the group at all - or various quangos in "our wee province".

You live in Waterfoot right?
Well excuse me for stating the obvious but you're in no position to say that nobody would notice if they didn't lift a hand again!
We can agree to disagree on some things - but I can point you to many people living in poverty and many projects in West Belfast where people most certainly do notice.
Minder - that's just bulls**t.
You might not particularly like them - I'm no cheerleader - but stick to facts.

Junkets happen everywhere - and West Belfast does need promoted abroad.
On a Saturday morning there's piles of tourists in buses and Black taxis up and down the Falls Road. Walking through the cemeteries. You think they just arrived there by chance? You think three's not some sort of co-ordination to all of this?
Stay in Waterfoot then before you pass comment on something you clearly know nothing about and are just prejudiced about.

Now that said this is a hurling forum - your comments were not only out of place - but factually incorrect.

So to finish things on matters hurling - the "Feile crowd" were positively involved in the Fr Reid Weekend and lend lobbying support to project casement - as they are duty bound to do.
There is no agenda, and no desire to infiltrate and aspect of the GAA.
They wouldn't want to - and it wouldn't be tolerated.  Antrim GAA offers nothing for the group anyway.
Stick to your conspiracy theories, ones which still have never been able to have any motive or substance - and I will stick to facts.

I'm from Waterfoot I have lived in West Belfast for almost 15 years so I am in as good a position as anyone else to comment

Clearly not - given the fact you're making in inaccurate statement.
Stick to the "Friends of Glenarrife" and all their great work promoting that area and their gates.
Or stick to commenting on hurling as you haven't aren't that learned on the "wild west".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 09, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 09:31:25 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 08, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Not to clog the thread up with this debate any longer, we are not going to agree on this point.
I have made my point and not based on wild conspiracy theories as was suggested. We have been sold a pup on this one.

back to the hurling.......

Just before we go - I have seen Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar in "action" over the last 10 years or so, and it's basically a vehicle to hoover up funding in that sector. And let's just say their funding wouldn't be commesurate with their output. As for them being "duty bound" to promote West Belfast, are you serious? If they never lifted a hand again nobody would notice and the funding would continue to roll in. For quite a few years their office on the Falls Rd consisted of a fella manning a Twitter account but they where never far from a foreign junket to "promote West Belfast", I remember seeing they where in Milwaukee of all places promoting West Belfast...........

So that why I was a little surprised and sceptical to see them getting so involved with Casement.

As NAG1 said we will agree to disagree

No don't get me wrong - I'm no cheerleader for the group at all - or various quangos in "our wee province".

You live in Waterfoot right?
Well excuse me for stating the obvious but you're in no position to say that nobody would notice if they didn't lift a hand again!
We can agree to disagree on some things - but I can point you to many people living in poverty and many projects in West Belfast where people most certainly do notice.
Minder - that's just bulls**t.
You might not particularly like them - I'm no cheerleader - but stick to facts.

Junkets happen everywhere - and West Belfast does need promoted abroad.
On a Saturday morning there's piles of tourists in buses and Black taxis up and down the Falls Road. Walking through the cemeteries. You think they just arrived there by chance? You think three's not some sort of co-ordination to all of this?
Stay in Waterfoot then before you pass comment on something you clearly know nothing about and are just prejudiced about.

Now that said this is a hurling forum - your comments were not only out of place - but factually incorrect.

So to finish things on matters hurling - the "Feile crowd" were positively involved in the Fr Reid Weekend and lend lobbying support to project casement - as they are duty bound to do.
There is no agenda, and no desire to infiltrate and aspect of the GAA.
They wouldn't want to - and it wouldn't be tolerated.  Antrim GAA offers nothing for the group anyway.
Stick to your conspiracy theories, ones which still have never been able to have any motive or substance - and I will stick to facts.

I'm from Waterfoot I have lived in West Belfast for almost 15 years so I am in as good a position as anyone else to comment

Clearly not - given the fact you're making in inaccurate statement.
Stick to the "Friends of Glenarrife" and all their great work promoting that area and their gates.
Or stick to commenting on hurling as you haven't aren't that learned on the "wild west".

Thanks for the friendly advice, but I will be ignoring it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 09, 2017, 02:16:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

They are
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)

Quango - QUAsi-Non-Governmental-Organisation

So Visit West Belfast/ Failte Feirste Thiar falls into exactly that category.

Fully agree on the Shinners cartel on alot of these - hence my original point.

Which is separate to the other points.

Simple - unless you want to invent a conspiracy ;) :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on February 10, 2017, 01:05:11 PM
Any thoughts on the team starting against london?id have thought clyde abit suspect at number 6?hope he proves me wrong though!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 10, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)

All the same it's nice of these people to give up their free time to volunteer to help West Belfast to develop without a brass farthing changing hands.

Its warms the heart that type of community spirit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 10, 2017, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)

All the same it's nice of these people to give up their free time to volunteer to help West Belfast to develop without a brass farthing changing hands.

Its warms the heart that type of community spirit.
You're not helping!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 10, 2017, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)

All the same it's nice of these people to give up their free time to volunteer to help West Belfast to develop without a brass farthing changing hands.

Its warms the heart that type of community spirit.
You're not helping!  ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 10, 2017, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 10, 2017, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 09, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 09, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
To be honest, I thought all those groups were just a front for the Shinners.

Well I did say I was no fan of such quangos ;)

A quango is a completely different animal to a 'community group' and is it now starting to become clearer after HS's input?  ;)

All the same it's nice of these people to give up their free time to volunteer to help West Belfast to develop without a brass farthing changing hands.

Its warms the heart that type of community spirit.

Not sure your point here JC?
Nobody said they were volunteers?
They are full-time salaried jobs.
Fully paid, well paid, and over paid I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 10, 2017, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: let it fly on February 10, 2017, 01:05:11 PM
Any thoughts on the team starting against london?id have thought clyde abit suspect at number 6?hope he proves me wrong though!

Was thinking that myself
Seems the only player we have found over the winter is young Rooney
Should be ok for London
But with Mc manus missing and a ropey CHB   Carlow away and Westmeath and Kildare(Kilkenny and Limerick B team)
It could be tough to get a result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 07:23:50 PM
Give McFadden a chance at CHB. Could surprise us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 10, 2017, 07:45:19 PM
Clyde won't be there long. Mcauley should be back for the next match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
Unfortunately neither are long term options at 6.

We need to find a CHB that we can build a team around, without a strong presence there we are up against it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 10, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
Anyone know when leagues are out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
Unfortunately neither are long term options at 6.

We need to find a CHB that we can build a team around, without a strong presence there we are up against it.

Any suggestions? shorty or McManus? i know he's to old for county but I always thought Kieran McGourty was a decent CHB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 10, 2017, 11:41:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 10, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 10, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
Unfortunately neither are long term options at 6.

We need to find a CHB that we can build a team around, without a strong presence there we are up against it.

Any suggestions? shorty or McManus? i know he's to old for county but I always thought Kieran McGourty was a decent CHB.
shorty could do it but then it weakens our attack with Mc manus missing
Sorry to be so negative about Clyde as no one can questions the lads heart and comittement
I hope he proves us wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on February 11, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
I'd say Paddy Burke is our best option at CHB as he's playing there consistently over the last 3 years at Club level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 11, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: Hand up on February 11, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
I'd say Paddy Burke is our best option at CHB as he's playing there consistently over the last 3 years at Club level.

Good shout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 12, 2017, 09:03:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 11, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: Hand up on February 11, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
I'd say Paddy Burke is our best option at CHB as he's playing there consistently over the last 3 years at Club level.

Good shout
Definitely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on February 12, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
Any body up at corrigan??how did the lads look?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 12, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
I'll come back to you when I'm thawed out ❄️❄️❄️
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 12, 2017, 05:06:00 PM
Played ok  it's hard to know
Artic temps and a very strong cross wind spoiled it
We shot around ten wides in the first half and should have won  by more
Never really looked like losing the game
Apart from Simon no real stand out performances
In fairness Clyde did ok
Carlow beat Westmeath so next weekend should let us know more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 13, 2017, 09:55:09 AM
Got some starving yesterday at that match! decent enough crowd at the game and was well organised by St Johns. Fair play to all involved, parking and stewards all sorted. Great job.

On the game we looked very flat at times and our shooting was pretty poor. That being said we took some nice scores and on a whole we played decently enough for the first game of the season. Carlow beat westmeath after being down by 4 at half time but did have a strong wind advantage in the second half. will be a tougher test than London.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 13, 2017, 10:15:04 AM
Thought the crowd was pretty poor, maybe a couple of hundred people. Agree though about the hosting of the event, very good job by St Johns, stewards, car parking etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
Good to get off to a win, to be fair to the squad they have been working hard and hopefully it continues like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 13, 2017, 02:15:06 PM
some poor decision making at times from the forwards to shoot from bad angles to try and get a score when working it out would of been a better option. Second half shooting was much improved on the first half efforts.

Nice to see woody chipping in with points again from half back. hes doing that week in now and its something additional to add to his game. Though full back and centre half were a bit dodgy at times though clyde did come good towards the end of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 14, 2017, 06:03:37 AM
Allianz Hurling League Division 2A: Antrim 0-20 London 0-13

A STRONG second-half performance saw Antrim get their Allianz Hurling League 2A campaign off to a winning start against London at a cold and windy Corrigan Park in west Belfast yesterday.

Playing with the elements in their favour, the hosts led by just three at the turnaround having hit 11 wides in the opening half, but they took full control after the break to pull away from the visitors.

"In the first half I thought we were very lethargic and we told them that at half-time," said Antrim manager, Dominic McKinley after.

"The second half we started the way we should have with a lot of energy and closing people down with a lot of aggression and I think we took control of the game.

"We would be disappointed with the first half and the amount of wides we had.

"They were taking shots from places where they shouldn't be shooting and that was something we were focussing on.

"But in the second half we were much better.

"Paul Shiels I thought was very good, the half backs came into it a lot more and started to drive forward.

"It wasn't ideal with the breeze, but a county hurler should be able to deal with that."

Antrim opened the game brightly with early scores from Ciaran Clarke and the industrious Conor McCann.

But London were soon into their stride and could have had a goal on four minutes when full-forward, Tadgh Healy rose to take the ball but his kicked effort went wide under pressure.

They were level soon after with scores from Brian Regan and Adam Murphy, but a Niall McKenna score restored Antrim's lead.

London's half-backs were beginning to dominate as they launched a series of attacks which led to a couple of frees pointed by Stephen Bardon.

The hosts hit back with McKenna and Conor McKinley raising flags and they had a great chance for a goal on 17 minutes when McCann played in Conor Johnston who batted wide when under pressure.

Johnston did make amends towards the end of the half when he worked well to get space and score which helped Antrim into a 0-9 to 0-5 lead, but London were to have the final say of the half when goalkeeper, Eoin Kelly converted a long free.

With the wind behind them, The Exiles would have certainly fancied their chances in the second half, but Antrim came out much improved.

They outscored the visitors 0-7 to 0-1 in the third quarter with Ciaran Clarke was on-song from frees with Conor McCann and substitute, Deaghlan Murphy chipping in.

London were reliant on Bardon frees and another from Kelly to keep the scoreboard ticking over, but the hosts were pulling away and led by 10 with as many minutes left as Paul Shiels, Murphy and Clarke added points.

The game fizzled out in the final period although London did continue to chip away and added some fine scores from Paul Uniacke, Bardon and Conor Kerr, but Antrim were home and dry at this stage and deservedly collected the points to get their campaign off to a solid start.

"It's important to get off to a good start," agreed McKinley.

"We didn't want to look ahead, but I don't know what happened in the first half whether they thought they were expecting to win this.

"We said to them that this won't happen any more and that we are in 2A for a reason.

"We have to start working our way out of it and that is going to take a lot of effort.

"We were very happy with the first 20 minutes of the second half, the way we went at it, the use of the ball and the scoring.

"We will have to look at the first half because that wasn't good enough and we all know that."

Antrim: C O'Connell; S Rooney, J Dillon, Ciaran Johnston; S McCrory, O McFadden, C McKinley (0-2); E Campbell, D McKernan; P McGill, C McCann (0-3), N McKenna (0-2); C Clarke (0-9, 7 frees), P Shiels (0-1), Conor Johnston (0-1).

Subs: D Murphy (0-2) for D McKernan (46 mins), C Carson for P McGill (62 mins), T Coyle for P Shiels (62 mins), N McAuley for J Dillon (67 mins)

Lomdon: E Kelly (0-2 frees); T Lawrence, O Gately, M Conroy ; S Griffey, P Horkan, N Rogers; B Regan (0-1), E Cooney; O Sheil, S Bardon (0-7, 6 frees, 1 65), D Roberts; A Murphy (0-1), T Healy, S O'Donnell.

Subs: P Uniacke (0-1) for S Griffey (21 mins), A Griffiths for E Cooney (55 mins), J Kelly for T Lawrence (57 mins), C Kerr (0-1) for B Regan (61 mins), M Coady for O Shiel (68 mins)

Referee: Mick Murtagh (Westmeath)


http://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2017/02/13/news/strong-second-half-show-against-london-sees-antrim-hurlers-off-to-winning-start-929692/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 14, 2017, 08:53:26 AM
Championship draw for senior

Prelim
Cushendall v Cloney

A - Ballycastle v Rossa
B - Loughgiel v Creggan
C - Dunloy v St. johns
D - Cloughmills v Prelim

Semi finals
A v C
B v D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 14, 2017, 08:55:25 AM
Intermediate draw
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4keDBPWIAAJrRL.jpg)
Junior draw
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4kdsf8W8AE3RYv.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2017, 09:14:45 AM
Gort Na Mona in junior? Surprised at that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on February 14, 2017, 09:31:48 AM
Is Liam Watson now hurling with Warwickshire ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 14, 2017, 09:39:38 AM
yeah hes transferred to them now. Hes over there working now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on February 14, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
Carey should win the intermediate handy enough, same said for Gortnamona in the junior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 14, 2017, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on February 14, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
Carey should win the intermediate handy enough, same said for Gortnamona in the junior

Don't think so for Intermediate. Carey were very poor when I watched them in last years cship against Tir na nog. Surely St Galls coming down from Senior will go in as favourites. Apart from Galls, everyone else on a level field. Hard to call.

Agree with Gorts. Hard to stop at Junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 15, 2017, 08:14:13 AM
Gort already looking further than Antrim for the Junior which they should indeed win without a lot of fuss.
Intermediate I think much can happen and won't be straightforward. 
Senior as usual has some questions around what season teams will have going forward but I would opt for Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2017, 09:53:50 AM
Id say Junior would be tight enough to be honest, wouldnt think that Gorts will get it all their own way, watched them a few times last season and they are good in a lot of areas but have patches in games where they dont have the ball and implode.. they should be more focused this year but not the easy passage most believe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 15, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Oh please Mr CCC can we some fixtures.

Please, pretty please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 15, 2017, 01:17:13 PM
Quote from: Usain on February 15, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Oh please Mr CCC can we some fixtures.

Please, pretty please

Who is Mr CCC this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 15, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
No idea. Could be a Mrs I suppose!

At least get us dates for when the matches will be played so that plans can be made. The who's playing who can happen later
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 15, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: Usain on February 15, 2017, 03:17:17 PM
No idea. Could be a Mrs I suppose!

At least get us dates for when the matches will be played so that plans can be made. The who's playing who can happen later

Agree 100%.. Suppose with Owen Elliot going off the CCC  it hasn't helped the fixtures getting sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on February 15, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
Eamon Grieve is CCC chair.

Fixtures to be available next week.

Some draft fixtures available on some club websites  but have to refined so that clubs aren't undertaking big journeys for mid week games in march/ April
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 15, 2017, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
Eamon Grieve is CCC chair.

Fixtures to be available next week.

Some draft fixtures available on some club websites  but have to refined so that clubs aren't undertaking big journeys for mid week games in march/ April

Good job
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2017, 10:25:44 PM
Pj will be happy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 15, 2017, 10:33:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2017, 10:25:44 PM
Pj will be happy

Pj who?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 16, 2017, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
Eamon Grieve is CCC chair.

Fixtures to be available next week.

Some draft fixtures available on some club websites  but have to refined so that clubs aren't undertaking big journeys for mid week games in march/ April

A new fresh face saffron vision :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 16, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on February 16, 2017, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 15, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
Eamon Grieve is CCC chair.

Fixtures to be available next week.

Some draft fixtures available on some club websites  but have to refined so that clubs aren't undertaking big journeys for mid week games in march/ April

A new fresh face saffron vision :o

Bit of experience surely..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on February 17, 2017, 11:30:35 AM
No harm lads but Eamon was brutal at the job previously, the only redeeming factor is he now has a committee to help and advise. The fixtures is the worst job in the Gaa and over the last 5/6 years have been getting better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2017, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: Hand up on February 17, 2017, 11:30:35 AM
No harm lads but Eamon was brutal at the job previously, the only redeeming factor is he now has a committee to help and advise. The fixtures is the worst job in the Gaa and over the last 5/6 years have been getting better.

Well if more people would put their 'hand up' we'd be in a better position to pick someone that would suit your needs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 17, 2017, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2017, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: Hand up on February 17, 2017, 11:30:35 AM
No harm lads but Eamon was brutal at the job previously, the only redeeming factor is he now has a committee to help and advise. The fixtures is the worst job in the Gaa and over the last 5/6 years have been getting better.

Well if more people would put their 'hand up' we'd be in a better position to pick someone that would suit your needs

See what you did there...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 18, 2017, 06:49:13 PM
Very often it's Sambo will be deciding fixtures not Eamon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
Fair play to Grievsie for taking the role on. Probably one of the toughest jobs of them all. He's no spring chicken but a bit of experience is hard to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on February 19, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
Would have hoped for a win when Carlow went down to 14 men but in the absence of McManus could have swung it.
Hopefully management see an upward trend.

I was at the Waterford game - thought the saved penalty may have lifted the deise but the physical strength of Tipperary is really something else. They will take some beating this year and it will have to in a semi or a final because of beaten early doors they will likely come through the back door to win!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on February 21, 2017, 11:34:23 PM
Was a really good game there on Sunday. Played at a decent pace & some quality scores...especially some of the long range points by Carlow. But overall Antrim looked more dangerous in the forwards, got the 2 goals and might have had a couple more.

Was up at the Westmeath/Carlow game the week before and it was a lot slower, more low key. Westmeath were bad, and Carlow were a lot better but hit a stupid amount of wides. Should have won by a lot more. After seeing Westmeath, not that surprised that Kildare bet them.

Kildare will be tricky for both Antrim & Carlow, but would imagine we'd have enough to overcome their band of imports. Can only see a Carlow v Antrim final and hopefully it will be half as good as last Sundays game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 22, 2017, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: stevecw on February 21, 2017, 11:34:23 PM
Was a really good game there on Sunday. Played at a decent pace & some quality scores...especially some of the long range points by Carlow. But overall Antrim looked more dangerous in the forwards, got the 2 goals and might have had a couple more.

Was up at the Westmeath/Carlow game the week before and it was a lot slower, more low key. Westmeath were bad, and Carlow were a lot better but hit a stupid amount of wides. Should have won by a lot more. After seeing Westmeath, not that surprised that Kildare bet them.

Kildare will be tricky for both Antrim & Carlow, but would imagine we'd have enough to overcome their band of imports. Can only see a Carlow v Antrim final and hopefully it will be half as good as last Sundays game.

Steve,
No Kilkenny lads "living" in Carlow to help develop your senior hurlers or are you happy to stick with the indigenous lollypops?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on February 24, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Any suggestions for few pints before tomorrow's game in Armagh? Where do most people go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 26, 2017, 12:41:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on February 24, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
Any suggestions for few pints before tomorrow's game in Armagh? Where do most people go?

It's a very teetotal crowd that follow Antrim hurling  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 27, 2017, 01:34:26 PM
disappointing game on sat. I missed the start due to traffic and it was 0-05 to 0-02 to Cula and the min that goal went it it was game over. Sneill were just beat by a far better team at the end up. been a great year for them as not only a club but the hurling in general, they have been great to watch and well deserved to be where they are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on February 27, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
So we are at home to Kildare on Sunday in Ballycastle - should be 2points if we arent complacent;

Back to Championships -
I fancy Cushendall this year - purely because Watson has left the shamrocks, and a couple of others getting on; Will be interesting to see dunloy youngsters again this year believe they will come through in the next couple of year;

Intermediate - interesting with StGalls down a grade this year and the young St Endas team who nearly beat Cloughmills last year; but looking at the draw i fancy Oisins to be in the final (managed by Humpy) but not sure if they will win it;

Junior will be very close - yep Gorts should be favourite but cushendun have a strong squad; & who would wrte Of Con Magees with PJ at the helm and a couple of ex loughguile players now on board;

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on February 27, 2017, 05:09:00 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on February 27, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
So we are at home to Kildare on Sunday in Ballycastle - should be 2points if we arent complacent;

Back to Championships -
I fancy Cushendall this year - purely because Watson has left the shamrocks, and a couple of others getting on; Will be interesting to see dunloy youngsters again this year believe they will come through in the next couple of year;

Intermediate - interesting with StGalls down a grade this year and the young St Endas team who nearly beat Cloughmills last year; but looking at the draw i fancy Oisins to be in the final (managed by Humpy) but not sure if they will win it;

Junior will be very close - yep Gorts should be favourite but cushendun have a strong squad; & who would wrte Of Con Magees with PJ at the helm and a couple of ex loughguile players now on board;

Any thoughts?

I know Martin Scullion is togging out for them, who else from Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on February 28, 2017, 07:53:35 AM
Kildare Match is now Confirmed for Cushendall on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 05, 2017, 04:32:10 PM
Case of job done today. We defended well at the end. Well worked goal and we should have had another.  Great points for us and leaves us in a good position.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 05, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 05, 2017, 04:32:10 PM
Case of job done today. We defended well at the end. Well worked goal and we should have had another.  Great points for us and leaves us in a good position.

God our players make life hard for themselves with some silly options
They worked hard and looked fitter than Kildare
If our defenders would look up before delivery and out forwards could manufacturer  some space then we could be beating these teams easy
Thought the ref was poor for us
A deliberate strike is a red and they didn't score much from play
Some soft frees melt them ticking over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 06, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
thought it was very flat yesterday for the whole game. The forwards made hard work of the match by not retaining the ball better and it left the backs under pressure far too much.

I though Kildare were poor but could of won the game with a bit of luck at the end and getting a last min goal. They wouldn't of deserved a win but due to the way we played we allowed them into the game. Losing Shorty so early was a blow and no McManus on as well didnt help.

Still it was a vital win and keeps us on course for a top spot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 06, 2017, 01:22:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 06, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
thought it was very flat yesterday for the whole game. The forwards made hard work of the match by not retaining the ball better and it left the backs under pressure far too much.

I though Kildare were poor but could of won the game with a bit of luck at the end and getting a last min goal. They wouldn't of deserved a win but due to the way we played we allowed them into the game. Losing Shorty so early was a blow and no McManus on as well didnt help.

Still it was a vital win and keeps us on course for a top spot.

Any word on how Shorty is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2017, 04:31:56 PM
Think we rucked well and were physical enough. Nobody can question the heart of our players on the field they were all playing for the jersey. Roll on the next game and hopefully take the top spot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2017, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 06, 2017, 04:31:56 PM
Think we rucked well and were physical enough. Nobody can question the heart of our players on the field they were all playing for the jersey. Roll on the next game and hopefully take the top spot.

Can't question their honesty but they need to learn how to retain pocession to a decent delivery is viable
To much whack it down the feild with heads down
We are playing the same as the christy ring cup defeat
Kildare where not as committed with the dirty ball but looked more efficient at moving the ball to good shooting positions albeit they persisted in shooting it wide
Well Done to Paddy Burke as he put Mulholl in his pocket
Big Matty looked better at CHB than Clyde
Woody done well in midfield
Conner Johnston is a joy to watch in that form
Clark did ok but missed more than he did in Carlow
Kildares best two players where the Reidy bros from Limerick
Well done to our lads who are joint top without Mc manus and a fit shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 06, 2017, 08:25:57 PM
Both Johnson boys played well. Ciaran seems really confident receiving those short puck outs and taking on his man. There's good development in Niall Mckenna over this past two seasons. He's starting to earn his place.

Our half back line was very solid with Mattie, Burkey and Simon. I thought our full back line was great .....really impressed with Stephen, Rocky and Ciaran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:16:13 AM
Thought Oran McFadden would have been better suited to the wing rather than number 6 and a swap with Paddy Burke would have been the early call when it wasn't working out for him. Tough getting pulled to the line early in the game. Mattie Donnelly did help shore up that position when he came in it has to be said. He's maybe a year or so off it, but Burke looks like a man who could  be a solid centre half for a the next few years.... he's just got that demeanor about him.

Up front ..Niall McKenna, I thought was solid throughout the game and was our go to man on the puckouts where he won plenty of the aerial contests ... looks leaner and able to cover the ground better as well. Ciaran Clarke and Conor Johnson did well, but thought Neal looked like a back up in the forward line. Clarkes striking and touch was top drawer throughout.... but we struggled to get him on the ball for large parts needed frees to keep him active in the game .... great wrists scoring a first half point from play on the dugout side of the field ... very little back swing .

Agree with others about the 'flatness' mentioned... personally I think the people watching have to start making a bit more noise to push the team on.... that would certainly help bring a bit of atmosphere. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
Swings and Roundabouts on the noise, we could do with seeing something to be noisy about? Unfortunately I'd be worried about us getting promoted with that squad and nobody else ready to step up that I can see. Before anyone jumps all over that statement, it's a catch 22 we possibly(hopefully) may rise our performances 10/15% against better/bigger named Counties as I'm sure it doesn't inspire the panel playing against the likes of Armagh.
Some very good showingsome it has to be said Pad Burke as I suggested a few weeks ago is our best option for CHB get him in now!!  I feel a bit for Clyde because other than the management I'd don't know anyone that would play him anywhere else but CB.
Shorty/McManus are massive losses to us but if either get a break will be back sooner than later to give us a shot in the arm upfront where we need them. The Defence is nearly sorted, so all in all at least we are going forward rather than staying at the same standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.

Is he big and burly and wins high ball?

Neil is a very quick lad albeit playing in an unnatural position for him... but its not impossible to change a gamekeeper into a poacher
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2017, 01:37:00 PM
well Callinan said the mc Manus is as good as he's played against a few weeks ago in the paper
Mc Manus woukd be an asset to most teams in the south never mind Antrim
We forget he has to wear a lot of hats for Antrim
If he was left just to one position on a stronger team you would see his worth
He had been good this year before injury exept v Kilkenny in the Walsh cup and has had off days
Thought he had a stinker on st Paddy's day Bar the goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.

Is he big and burly and wins high ball?

Neil is a very quick lad albeit playing in an unnatural position for him... but its not impossible to change a gamekeeper into a poacher

I understand what your saying MR2 and lots of players can turn their hand to it but I've watched Ballycastle try this with him at 11 & 14 over the years and it honestly hasn't worked. Therefore I don't think we should be going down this route at intercounty level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.

Is he big and burly and wins high ball?

Neil is a very quick lad albeit playing in an unnatural position for him... but its not impossible to change a gamekeeper into a poacher

I understand what your saying MR2 and lots of players can turn their hand to it but I've watched Ballycastle try this with him at 11 & 14 over the years and it honestly hasn't worked. Therefore I don't think we should be going down this route at intercounty level.

He never gonna bust his gut for Ballycastle wherever they start him
Throw him in for Cushendall he's a different animal😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.

Is he big and burly and wins high ball?

Neil is a very quick lad albeit playing in an unnatural position for him... but its not impossible to change a gamekeeper into a poacher

I understand what your saying MR2 and lots of players can turn their hand to it but I've watched Ballycastle try this with him at 11 & 14 over the years and it honestly hasn't worked. Therefore I don't think we should be going down this route at intercounty level.

I agree at county level, time is not on his side!! But options at the minute are slim, McCann not a FF?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 07, 2017, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 07, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
I thought Paddy Burke had a great game and i agree with others that he looks a good option for the no6 position. Would prefer Simon and woody then either side of him. The full back line i would leave as is as its pretty settled in there now. keeper, well Chrissy is a class act in there each time he plays and i cant see anyone shifting him.

Up front is where we have problems. If we had Neil and shorty in there it would help but at the moment Clarky is carrying the most of the scores on his own. Johnston was decent on Sunday in the corner, took some nice scores but i dont understand Neil McAuley in there at all. Its like the time we play Matty in there as well and it didnt work.

Look its not criticism more observations at the moment as i feel the management and the players are giving it their all and fully intent on getting antrim back up into 1B again and trying to push the county on.

Unfortunately Neil's best days as a defender may be behind him (versus what we have in the county at present) and this is more of an accommodation for someone who has given so much to the cause and leads. But the days of the big burly full forward winning high ball are over a long time ago. Its sad to see but he may not be much of a fixture in this team over the coming months. Just my opinion.

Séamus Callanan, 6.3' does ok for a big burly FF

1. Callanan is much more mobile than Neil and 2. Callanan is a natural forward, Neil is a defender being accommodated as a forward.

Is he big and burly and wins high ball?

Neil is a very quick lad albeit playing in an unnatural position for him... but its not impossible to change a gamekeeper into a poacher

I understand what your saying MR2 and lots of players can turn their hand to it but I've watched Ballycastle try this with him at 11 & 14 over the years and it honestly hasn't worked. Therefore I don't think we should be going down this route at intercounty level.

I agree at county level, time is not on his side!! But options at the minute are slim, McCann not a FF?

McCann certainly impressed me as 14 for Creggan couple of times I saw him. But then who goes to 11? We are a bit light up front until we get McManus and shorty back fully fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?

Sweep sweep... its the way forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 07, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?

Sweep sweep... its the way forward.

And we wonder why people look to the courts for justice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?

Sweep sweep... its the way forward.

And we wonder why people look to the courts for justice.

A case of Triggers broom eh? All the different heads & shafts. It still same result. Let's not be negative, surely the county board will look at it and conduct a full and frank investigation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?

Sweep sweep... its the way forward.

And we wonder why people look to the courts for justice.

A case of Triggers broom eh? All the different heads & shafts. It still same result. Let's not be negative, surely the county board will look at it and conduct a full and frank investigation.

You living off hearsay again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 07, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hand up on March 07, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
On a different sour note, one of our Minors got a bad face representing the County u17/minor squad against St Mary's CBS the lads where giving St Mary's a helping hand for their forthcoming All Ireland Campaign when a St Paul's/Rossa lad pulled the helmet of him and struck him 3 times , and nothing done about it because (a) it's a friendly or ( b) it's the Assistant County Treasurers Son who Again was involved!! Not good enough, why would young lads turn out for the County to be assaulted without retribution?

Sweep sweep... its the way forward.

And we wonder why people look to the courts for justice.

A case of Triggers broom eh? All the different heads & shafts. It still same result. Let's not be negative, surely the county board will look at it and conduct a full and frank investigation.

You living off hearsay again?

The previous poster has says something has happened, I'm responding to that by suggesting our county board will respond accordingly.

Why what's it to you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
Was he at it?? There was a horrible dust up for 30 seconds.. lads involved got took off didn't play rest of game... incident report taken... both sets of managers appalled by it.. players agreed to carry on and play second half... wasn't a dirty stroke leading up to it or after it... 17 year olds, from my experience at this level are pumped up a bit too much, but I heard about a challenge game last weekend in football that also had a dust up... you must have missed that one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 08:37:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
Was he at it?? There was a horrible dust up for 30 seconds.. lads involved got took off didn't play rest of game... incident report taken... both sets of managers appalled by it.. players agreed to carry on and play second half... wasn't a dirty stroke leading up to it or after it... 17 year olds, from my experience at this level are pumped up a bit too much, but I heard about a challenge game last weekend in football that also had a dust up... you must have missed that one

U at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 08:49:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 07, 2017, 08:37:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
Was he at it?? There was a horrible dust up for 30 seconds.. lads involved got took off didn't play rest of game... incident report taken... both sets of managers appalled by it.. players agreed to carry on and play second half... wasn't a dirty stroke leading up to it or after it... 17 year olds, from my experience at this level are pumped up a bit too much, but I heard about a challenge game last weekend in football that also had a dust up... you must have missed that one

U at it?

Yep
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2017, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Agreed and that will happen....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 08, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Sharing morning coffee with a Rossa man who tells me "we're looking at not using sanctioned players anymore".

I understand the reasoning but again my worry is do such players stop playing altogether?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Sharing morning coffee with a Rossa man who tells me "we're looking at not using sanctioned players anymore".

I understand the reasoning but again my worry is do such players stop playing altogether?

If thats the antics they are at and bringing the club a bad name, are they that big a loss?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2017, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Sharing morning coffee with a Rossa man who tells me "we're looking at not using sanctioned players anymore".

I understand the reasoning but again my worry is do such players stop playing altogether?

If thats the antics they are at and bringing the club a bad name, are they that big a loss?

These things start to fizzle out once they are senior and meet a man, who basically will put manners on them, within the game rules that is!! I've refereed some games where I've actually  heard myself say, you deserved that for being a bollox, when there has be a bit of, retribution lets say...

Young bucks tend to mature very quickly when the other senior players don't rally in behind him and he's on his own
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 08, 2017, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Sharing morning coffee with a Rossa man who tells me "we're looking at not using sanctioned players anymore".

I understand the reasoning but again my worry is do such players stop playing altogether?

If thats the antics they are at and bringing the club a bad name, are they that big a loss?

Exactly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 08, 2017, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2017, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 08, 2017, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
A couple of St Pauls players on sanction to Rossa were complete bollock's against us in the minor league decider at the end of last season and got the line for their antics. One of those guys I'd assume.

A strong school would be trying to put a bit of discipline into someone who is developing in this way ...rather than be tempted to ignore such sc**bag behaviour for the good of the school. Best of luck to him when he tries that at senior.

Sharing morning coffee with a Rossa man who tells me "we're looking at not using sanctioned players anymore".

I understand the reasoning but again my worry is do such players stop playing altogether?

If thats the antics they are at and bringing the club a bad name, are they that big a loss?

These things start to fizzle out once they are senior and meet a man, who basically will put manners on them, within the game rules that is!! I've refereed some games where I've actually  heard myself say, you deserved that for being a bollox, when there has be a bit of, retribution lets say...

Young bucks tend to mature very quickly when the other senior players don't rally in behind him and he's on his own

Nice to here a ref with a perspective on poetic justice
The amount of times the wrong man got it angers me
I know this isn't a soccer thread but that Man U forward did the right thing on Saturday
I hate Man U but that was pay back at its best
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Great to see Antrim in the same boat as the top counties  ;D

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Great to see Antrim in the same boat as the top counties  ;D

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665)

Whatever floats your boat Neil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 09, 2017, 08:22:17 AM
Interview with Sambo on the Sports Joe podcast.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/antrim-hurlers-preseason-training-sounds-like-absolute-nightmare-115915
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 09, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Great to see Antrim in the same boat as the top counties  ;D

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665)

Whatever floats your boat Neil

Simon must have been working  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 09, 2017, 08:22:17 AM
Interview with Sambo on the Sports Joe podcast.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/antrim-hurlers-preseason-training-sounds-like-absolute-nightmare-115915

listened to that the other night there, always liked sambos interviews as they are honest and straight to the point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 09, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Great to see Antrim in the same boat as the top counties  ;D

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665)

Whatever floats your boat Neil

Simon must have been working  ;)

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267367

It might be down to players with clubs on coastal towns as killian young is there

RNLI has a boat in Cushendall

Simon is doing better work closer to home as he is heavily involved with underage development squads and is a big asset to Antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 09, 2017, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 09, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 09, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 08, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Great to see Antrim in the same boat as the top counties  ;D

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665 (https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/839440789352689665)

Whatever floats your boat Neil

Simon must have been working  ;)

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=267367

It might be down to players with clubs on coastal towns as killian young is there

RNLI has a boat in Cushendall

Simon is doing better work closer to home as he is heavily involved with underage development squads and is a big asset to Antrim hurling

Tongue firmly in cheek NAH  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2017, 02:50:51 PM
McManus is a great ambassador for the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
CCC release fixtures and then St John's and St Paul's decide they don't fancy playing in that league and submit league proposals. What a joke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 09, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
CCC release fixtures and then St John's and St Paul's decide they don't fancy playing in that league and submit league proposals. What a joke!

What's this!?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Johnnies want back into div1 and St Paul's want back into div3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Johnnies want back into div1 and St Paul's want back into div3.

Maybe that's the start of the Hurling in Belfast promotion!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Johnnies want back into div1 and St Paul's want back into div3.

They may want for all they are worth because it wont be changed. What next, being knocked out of the championship and asking for a back door system to be started  ??? ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 10, 2017, 08:53:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Johnnies want back into div1 and St Paul's want back into div3.

They may want for all they are worth because it wont be changed. What next, being knocked out of the championship and asking for a back door system to be started  ??? ::)

Completely agree. Sometimes you just have to take your medicine and accept you are where you are for a reason. This constant need to be tinkering with leagues pi**es me off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 09, 2017, 11:10:14 PM
Johnnies want back into div1 and St Paul's want back into div3.

Surely this proposal was shot down straight away though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
All will be revealed Monday night. Issue is,LD and Cushendun got special treatment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 09:53:49 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
All will be revealed Monday night. Issue is,LD and Cushendun got special treatment.

How?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:02:56 AM
1. Cushendun to be include in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017 (and not div 4 following their relegation in 2016)

2. Lamh Dhearg also to be included in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017. (even though they finished 2nd in 2016 in a league that was to have one team promoted)

County Committee agreed to include both clubs in the 2017 Div. 3 Hurling
League. That's how.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:02:56 AM
1. Cushendun to be include in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017 (and not div 4 following their relegation in 2016)

2. Lamh Dhearg also to be included in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017. (even though they finished 2nd in 2016 in a league that was to have one team promoted)

County Committee agreed to include both clubs in the 2017 Div. 3 Hurling
League. That's how.

On what basis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
On the basis that these 2 clubs got special treatment. Now we've another 2 clubs looking special treatment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 10, 2017, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:02:56 AM
1. Cushendun to be include in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017 (and not div 4 following their relegation in 2016)

2. Lamh Dhearg also to be included in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017. (even though they finished 2nd in 2016 in a league that was to have one team promoted)

County Committee agreed to include both clubs in the 2017 Div. 3 Hurling
League. That's how.

On what basis?

County committee/Saffron vision, whatever the top table are called. You all need a kick in the balls if this is true.

Teams have to accept when they get relegated, not some up with special case treatment. Utter utter shite  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
On the basis that these 2 clubs got special treatment. Now we've another 2 clubs looking special treatment.

Ballix! What a shambles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2017, 11:22:05 AM
what a load of balls. plain and simple
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 11:31:28 AM
LD and Cushendun brought these proposals to last months county committee meeting (not even convention), now we have St John's and St Paul's doing the same.

Surely any league changes should happen at County Convention only?!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
DR hit the nail on the head, it's a load of balls. Be serious questions asked now about the county committee. But please don't be negative, instead let's be constructive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
This sort of stuff has been happening for years, league changes, proposals and all other manner of things and people on here act shocked?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 10, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
This sort of stuff has been happening for years, league changes, proposals and all other manner of things and people on here act shocked?

Yes has been happening for years but thought our new county executive would have brought a new level of integrity and put an end this nonsense. F**king about like this helps no one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 10, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2017, 12:24:03 PM
This sort of stuff has been happening for years, league changes, proposals and all other manner of things and people on here act shocked?

Yes has been happening for years but thought our new county executive would have brought a new level of integrity and put an end this nonsense. F**king about like this helps no one.

On the face of it yes you're right and I don't think any changes (latest changes) will be made!! I don't know the breakdown of the Lamhs Cushendun proposal but in some cases when a team is far to good for a division then it will actually hinder the rest in that league, as it's only one up one down (which I don't agree with) do the stronger team will always get up, Lsmhs played an All Ireland semi recently, they seem to be rejuvenated from that run and a shot in the arm for the hurlers there...

As for Cushendun they can be so changeable could back I'm my day duff most teams one week get hammered the next.. so like I said I don't know fully the ins and outs of it.... as do most on here I'd imagine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on March 10, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
bbc archive

https://www.facebook.com/THECHAMPIONSHIP/videos/vb.111276448908371/132542823488680/?type=2&theater&notif_t=comment_mention&notif_id=1489158082701841

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 10, 2017, 07:33:47 PM
You'd have to wonder why( and I did mention this at the time)
We brought back a man from a particular club in The Whiterock to chair the CCC!!!
And the way the meeting will pan out is that after much discussion and debate the County Chairman will ask Grevsie can he accommodate The Johnnies and Bingo!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on March 10, 2017, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on March 10, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
bbc archive

https://www.facebook.com/THECHAMPIONSHIP/videos/vb.111276448908371/132542823488680/?type=2&theater&notif_t=comment_mention&notif_id=1489158082701841

I meant to say ...

a more innocent age?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: worn down on March 10, 2017, 10:59:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 10, 2017, 10:40:01 PM
Well done to St. Mary's today. Through to AI final.
+1

Difficult game. Tale of 2 half's with a difficult breeze. No.11 for Naas is a dead eye. He fairly got stuck into the many frees that St Mary's gave in the second half.  St Mary's got goals and as I've always been told "Goals win matches!". CJ McKenna , I thought, was the difference protecting the half back line. He suffered some damage. Good win in a very tight match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 12, 2017, 10:46:15 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 10, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
On the basis that these 2 clubs got special treatment. Now we've another 2 clubs looking special treatment.

I thought that the ports finished above St Johns last year, so might they get a reprieve as well??"

Shouldn't happen all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 13, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 13, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.

Here is the body of the letter from St.Pauls which has more chance of going to a vote imo, wee J will be there to quote chapter and verse no doubt. The annoying thing is that clubs who this in no way affects will have a vote on this.
Just leave it alone. We all are where we are on merit, no special treatment.
If theres any sense in the room all of this will be thrown out and we get on with it as is.






A Chairde,


RE:  REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY DIVISION 3 AND 4 HURLING LEAGUE 2017

Further to my previous correspondence on the above matter, I am writing formally to ask that the request to include St Paul's Senior Hurling Team in the Division 3 All County Hurling League for 2017 be placed on the Clár at the next County Committee meeting on Monday 13 March 2017.

As stated previously, all we are looking for is fair and equal treatment. 

On the basis of the above, St Paul's GAC would propose either of the following solutions:

(a)   That a decision is made to amalgamate the Division 3 and Division 4 Hurling Leagues for 2017 in a one round 17 team league (St Paul's GAC Preferred Option)

(b)   That a decision is made to include both Lamh Dhearg and St Paul's Senior Hurling Teams in the Division 3 Hurling League for 2017 in a one round 11 team League with a half way split.

I am aware that a number of other clubs within the County would be very supportive of St Paul's position as it would allow all teams to play at an appropriate level and ensure that the many young talented players in all teams are given the opportunity to develop and improve (e.g. Stephen Rooney, Donal Nugent, Colm McLarnon, Patrick Doyle etc).

I appreciate that CCC is keen to finalise fixtures for club secretaries, but I believe that they have the time to act after County Committee make their decision.

I look forward to the Club getting the opportunity to present its position on the matter on Monday evening.


Is Mise Le Meas


Secretary                         
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 13, 2017, 01:06:55 PM
cant blame them for trying. Dont get if you dont ask.

That being said they have left it very late to be asking for it a few weeks before the start of a season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 13, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 13, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.

Here is the body of the letter from St.Pauls which has more chance of going to a vote imo, wee J will be there to quote chapter and verse no doubt. The annoying thing is that clubs who this in no way affects will have a vote on this.
Just leave it alone. We all are where we are on merit, no special treatment.
If theres any sense in the room all of this will be thrown out and we get on with it as is.






A Chairde,


RE:  REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY DIVISION 3 AND 4 HURLING LEAGUE 2017

Further to my previous correspondence on the above matter, I am writing formally to ask that the request to include St Paul's Senior Hurling Team in the Division 3 All County Hurling League for 2017 be placed on the Clár at the next County Committee meeting on Monday 13 March 2017.

As stated previously, all we are looking for is fair and equal treatment. 

On the basis of the above, St Paul's GAC would propose either of the following solutions:

(a)   That a decision is made to amalgamate the Division 3 and Division 4 Hurling Leagues for 2017 in a one round 17 team league (St Paul's GAC Preferred Option)

(b)   That a decision is made to include both Lamh Dhearg and St Paul's Senior Hurling Teams in the Division 3 Hurling League for 2017 in a one round 11 team League with a half way split.

I am aware that a number of other clubs within the County would be very supportive of St Paul's position as it would allow all teams to play at an appropriate level and ensure that the many young talented players in all teams are given the opportunity to develop and improve (e.g. Stephen Rooney, Donal Nugent, Colm McLarnon, Patrick Doyle etc).

I appreciate that CCC is keen to finalise fixtures for club secretaries, but I believe that they have the time to act after County Committee make their decision.

I look forward to the Club getting the opportunity to present its position on the matter on Monday evening.


Is Mise Le Meas


Secretary                         

Load of balls at this stage, tough luck, if your in Division 2 this year and you want to be in it next year then you have to win enough games.... its as simple as that. for too many years this has been going on and to be honest it is the main reason why the leagues become a shambles. people talk about wanting a more meaningful league and even using league positions as championship seeding's etc. and these are all good points but until we stop restructuring the leagues every year then its all pointless because until promotion and relegation mean such then what's the point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 13, 2017, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 13, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 13, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.

Here is the body of the letter from St.Pauls which has more chance of going to a vote imo, wee J will be there to quote chapter and verse no doubt. The annoying thing is that clubs who this in no way affects will have a vote on this.
Just leave it alone. We all are where we are on merit, no special treatment.
If theres any sense in the room all of this will be thrown out and we get on with it as is.






A Chairde,


RE:  REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY DIVISION 3 AND 4 HURLING LEAGUE 2017

Further to my previous correspondence on the above matter, I am writing formally to ask that the request to include St Paul's Senior Hurling Team in the Division 3 All County Hurling League for 2017 be placed on the Clár at the next County Committee meeting on Monday 13 March 2017.

As stated previously, all we are looking for is fair and equal treatment. 

On the basis of the above, St Paul's GAC would propose either of the following solutions:

(a)   That a decision is made to amalgamate the Division 3 and Division 4 Hurling Leagues for 2017 in a one round 17 team league (St Paul's GAC Preferred Option)

(b)   That a decision is made to include both Lamh Dhearg and St Paul's Senior Hurling Teams in the Division 3 Hurling League for 2017 in a one round 11 team League with a half way split.

I am aware that a number of other clubs within the County would be very supportive of St Paul's position as it would allow all teams to play at an appropriate level and ensure that the many young talented players in all teams are given the opportunity to develop and improve (e.g. Stephen Rooney, Donal Nugent, Colm McLarnon, Patrick Doyle etc).

I appreciate that CCC is keen to finalise fixtures for club secretaries, but I believe that they have the time to act after County Committee make their decision.

I look forward to the Club getting the opportunity to present its position on the matter on Monday evening.


Is Mise Le Meas


Secretary                         

Load of balls at this stage, tough luck, if your in Division 2 this year and you want to be in it next year then you have to win enough games.... its as simple as that. for too many years this has been going on and to be honest it is the main reason why the leagues become a shambles. people talk about wanting a more meaningful league and even using league positions as championship seeding's etc. and these are all good points but until we stop restructuring the leagues every year then its all pointless because until promotion and relegation mean such then what's the point?

You hit the nail on the head there Gizzy.

I suspect this has all happened because Cushendun have been allowed a special reprieve and got moved from Div 4 to Div 3 because Ballinascreen withdrew from div 3. If that is the case then the floodgates were already opened to this sort of nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 13, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 13, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.

Here is the body of the letter from St.Pauls which has more chance of going to a vote imo, wee J will be there to quote chapter and verse no doubt. The annoying thing is that clubs who this in no way affects will have a vote on this.
Just leave it alone. We all are where we are on merit, no special treatment.
If theres any sense in the room all of this will be thrown out and we get on with it as is.






A Chairde,


RE:  REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY DIVISION 3 AND 4 HURLING LEAGUE 2017

Further to my previous correspondence on the above matter, I am writing formally to ask that the request to include St Paul's Senior Hurling Team in the Division 3 All County Hurling League for 2017 be placed on the Clár at the next County Committee meeting on Monday 13 March 2017.

As stated previously, all we are looking for is fair and equal treatment. 

On the basis of the above, St Paul's GAC would propose either of the following solutions:

(a)   That a decision is made to amalgamate the Division 3 and Division 4 Hurling Leagues for 2017 in a one round 17 team league (St Paul's GAC Preferred Option)

(b)   That a decision is made to include both Lamh Dhearg and St Paul's Senior Hurling Teams in the Division 3 Hurling League for 2017 in a one round 11 team League with a half way split.

I am aware that a number of other clubs within the County would be very supportive of St Paul's position as it would allow all teams to play at an appropriate level and ensure that the many young talented players in all teams are given the opportunity to develop and improve (e.g. Stephen Rooney, Donal Nugent, Colm McLarnon, Patrick Doyle etc).

I appreciate that CCC is keen to finalise fixtures for club secretaries, but I believe that they have the time to act after County Committee make their decision.

I look forward to the Club getting the opportunity to present its position on the matter on Monday evening.


Is Mise Le Meas


Secretary                         

Load of balls at this stage, tough luck, if your in Division 2 this year and you want to be in it next year then you have to win enough games.... its as simple as that. for too many years this has been going on and to be honest it is the main reason why the leagues become a shambles. people talk about wanting a more meaningful league and even using league positions as championship seeding's etc. and these are all good points but until we stop restructuring the leagues every year then its all pointless because until promotion and relegation mean such then what's the point?

I agree, nothing worse than clubs going greeting to the county board when they aren't good enough. ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
Plenty of games to promote hurling in Belfast 👀
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.

I had a feeling something like this would happen as I couldn't see some of the teams in Div 4 wanting to take their medicine and play in the league they were in. This is the reason why we(St Agnes) decided early on to go and play South Antrim this year. I had predicted either a 12 team div 3 meaning a 5 team Div 4 with only a handful of fixtures or the 17 team option (which has happened) and a shit load of tankings for the bottom 4 or 5 teams. For a while it looked like I was wrong and the league looked decent but unfortunately in the end we were proved right and the likes of Loch Mor (and could have been Aggies/Davitts etc) are going to have to play Sarsfields/St Endas/Creegan........... Shaft the minnions to suit a few
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 14, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.

I had a feeling something like this would happen as I couldn't see some of the teams in Div 4 wanting to take their medicine and play in the league they were in. This is the reason why we(St Agnes) decided early on to go and play South Antrim this year. I had predicted either a 12 team div 3 meaning a 5 team Div 4 with only a handful of fixtures or the 17 team option (which has happened) and a shit load of tankings for the bottom 4 or 5 teams. For a while it looked like I was wrong and the league looked decent but unfortunately in the end we were proved right and the likes of Loch Mor (and could have been Aggies/Davitts etc) are going to have to play Sarsfields/St Endas/Creegan........... Shaft the minnions to suit a few

Cue the discussion at next years convention:

"That division 3 hurling league in 2017 was a nonsense. Too may one sided games. Only 4 teams in it were really competitive. 16 games was too much. Can we change back to two 8 team divisions............."

Motion submitted by St Pauls who didn't get promoted to Division 2.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.

I had a feeling something like this would happen as I couldn't see some of the teams in Div 4 wanting to take their medicine and play in the league they were in. This is the reason why we(St Agnes) decided early on to go and play South Antrim this year. I had predicted either a 12 team div 3 meaning a 5 team Div 4 with only a handful of fixtures or the 17 team option (which has happened) and a shit load of tankings for the bottom 4 or 5 teams. For a while it looked like I was wrong and the league looked decent but unfortunately in the end we were proved right and the likes of Loch Mor (and could have been Aggies/Davitts etc) are going to have to play Sarsfields/St Endas/Creegan........... Shaft the minnions to suit a few

There is a discussion on the Football board about miss matches in Div3, this fits into that bracket also.

Shaft some clubs to suit the rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2017, 09:31:29 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.

I had a feeling something like this would happen as I couldn't see some of the teams in Div 4 wanting to take their medicine and play in the league they were in. This is the reason why we(St Agnes) decided early on to go and play South Antrim this year. I had predicted either a 12 team div 3 meaning a 5 team Div 4 with only a handful of fixtures or the 17 team option (which has happened) and a shit load of tankings for the bottom 4 or 5 teams. For a while it looked like I was wrong and the league looked decent but unfortunately in the end we were proved right and the likes of Loch Mor (and could have been Aggies/Davitts etc) are going to have to play Sarsfields/St Endas/Creegan........... Shaft the minnions to suit a few

Should be a competitive south antrim league this year then.... looking forward to it, last season for me i hope  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2017, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 13, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
Plenty of games to promote hurling in Belfast 👀
The status quo is maintained and that's all that matters, some johnnies lads behaved poorly last year so no reprieve for them.Consider it a slap on the wrist from the "powers above". No doubt will be back up next year and toeing the line accordingly. St.Pauls, boohoo we are a proud club, "Id just like to remind everyone here of our proud hurling history" and they shouldn't be in Div.4, even though they were the worst team in Division 3 last year. No wait lets rewrite the rules and ruin what was an excellently contested league last year so we can spare the blushes of the red and white hoops.
I'm still in shock that this has gone through but again i failed to recognize the level of apathy towards the lower leagues and where the power lies at county committee.
"We have to do something to improve hurling in Belfast" said one esteemed north antrim delegate...and this is the answer??
How about recognizing that  a good league system is designed to ensure that the best clubs will prevail and the worst will drop, in doing so maybe recognizing on the way that they and only they should take charge of their own destiny. Through hard work, application and sacrifice hopefully turn the tide again. But no, this ridiculous sense of entitlement that is a cancer to a greater or lesser degree in all our clubs clouds the vision again.
Rant over in this "hot air shop", probably should have cleared my throat at Dunsilly last night but I fear it was a done deal regardless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 14, 2017, 10:07:25 AM
Posted on the 4th July
http://antrim.gaa.ie/news/league-structures

Hurling Leagues
         

Div1-14 Games home and away, top team wins league, top 4 Antrim teams seeded for 2017 Championship, bottom 2 Relegated
 

Div1Res- 10 Games home and away, top team wins league
     

Div2-14 Games home and away, top team wins league, top 2 teams promoted bottom 2 relegated
   

Div 3-18 Games home and away league top team wins league, top 2 teams promoted bottom 2 teams relegated
   

Div 4- 10 Games league split into 2 ,Top 5 play off for Div 4 league winners being promoted and bottom 1 relegated. Bottom 6 play off div 5 title with 1 promoted


Points carry through from first 10 games.
       

Minor 1+2 11 + 9 games respectively, One way league, top team wins league
     

U-16 1+2 - 10 games respectively One way league, top team wins league


What's the point in having structures if every year things change to suit certain clubs who have a bad year?
We cry out for competitive leagues with purpose, then shit like this happens. Now we have meaningless matches and now a meaningless league for at least 10 clubs.
Clubs need to wake up and accept what league they are in through merit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 14, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
If structures had of been followed, this is how div 4 would have looked. Who's going to tell me this wouldn't have been a competitive league with 16 games?

Con Magees, Glenravel
Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC
Na Magha
Carryduff
Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC
Naomh Colum Cille
Shane Uí Néill
Cushendun
Lamh Dhearg


Now CCC are asking clubs do they want to be in this Div3/4 league after last nights decisions. Only in Antrim ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 14, 2017, 10:14:58 AM
I want clarity now on what determines promotion from this division 3 league?? Don't want this turning into another fiasco at the end of the season when they try to move the goalposts. Is it winner goes up or top two go up??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 14, 2017, 11:31:42 AM
Is anyone able to post each league - and the teams in it.

I think we should pass a motion that leagues will be decided fresh every year - after all that's the only motion that we'd actually stick to.
The tampering with leagues has long been farcical (from teams all over the county) and this time under the cloak of improving Belfast hurling is no different.
Shouldn't even need to say it - but teams are promoted/relegated for a reason.

We'll be here again next year however - leagues changed to suit someone with some motivation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 14, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 14, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
If structures had of been followed, this is how div 4 would have looked. Who's going to tell me this wouldn't have been a competitive league with 16 games?

Con Magees, Glenravel
Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC
Na Magha
Carryduff
Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC
Naomh Colum Cille
Shane Uí Néill
Cushendun
Lamh Dhearg


Now CCC are asking clubs do they want to be in this Div3/4 league after last nights decisions. Only in Antrim ::)
Are you kidding me? thats what the league would have been? that would have been a great league, maybe Loch Mor would find it tough but all them other teams look at a similar level, St Pauls should be ashamed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 14, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 14, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 14, 2017, 10:12:25 AM
If structures had of been followed, this is how div 4 would have looked. Who's going to tell me this wouldn't have been a competitive league with 16 games?

Con Magees, Glenravel
Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC
Na Magha
Carryduff
Naomh Pól CLG /St Pauls GAC
Naomh Colum Cille
Shane Uí Néill
Cushendun
Lamh Dhearg


Now CCC are asking clubs do they want to be in this Div3/4 league after last nights decisions. Only in Antrim ::)
Are you kidding me? thats what the league would have been? that would have been a great league, maybe Loch Mor would find it tough but all them other teams look at a similar level, St Pauls should be ashamed.
Well you got any opinions Knocknacarry or are you just snooping? You think yous deserve to be where you are? Ould Sean's bleating is very effective by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 11:49:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

It's all about winning Ulsters. Full stop. donegal and other counties at it too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Quote from: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!
No arguments C'Dun are currently a junior club, they couldnt get past a team from the division below who couldnt win their own league. St.Pauls again currently a junior club and are in search of the feel good factor that will turn the tide for them. GNM maybe not so much, they have dipped but jumped to junior too soon imo and could be viewed as opportunistic. I dont think it will be as easy as they think though.
So having established the levels and taking GNM out, how do 2 clubs that were relegated from division 3 last year plus another that couldnt win division 4 think that they should be playing division 3 teams without having earned the right to do so. The prize won on the floor of the county committee room. Maybe you should put your efforts into achieving honest results on grass rather than political horse trading on the carpet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 15, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Quote from: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!
No arguments C'Dun are currently a junior club, they couldnt get past a team from the division below who couldnt win their own league. St.Pauls again currently a junior club and are in search of the feel good factor that will turn the tide for them. GNM maybe not so much, they have dipped but jumped to junior too soon imo and could be viewed as opportunistic. I dont think it will be as easy as they think though.
So having established the levels and taking GNM out, how do 2 clubs that were relegated from division 3 last year plus another that couldnt win division 4 think that they should be playing division 3 teams without having earned the right to do so. The prize won on the floor of the county committee room. Maybe you should put your efforts into achieving honest results on grass rather than political horse trading on the carpet.

Here here.

Cushendun and St Pauls should be ashamed for what they requested regarding leagues. They got relegated last year because they weren't good enough, hard lines. Stop your crying and get back to the pitch and try to improve.

Gorts have also let themselves down, looks like they are jumping down a chsip far too soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on March 15, 2017, 08:49:50 AM
Quote from: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!


This is my point, why then want into a league that is not the Level you are at but not the same in Championship. If you want on pit yourselves against Sarsfields, Tir Na Og & St Endas or whoever else in the league then why stop there? Why happy enough to play championship against the teams you feel your too good to Share a league with? After all it wouldnt have taken a motion for any of these clubs to move up a grade in championship as you can choose to play up in championship.. All the teams that whinged to be moved up in the league should be moved up a grade in Championship (My opinion) otherwise its a farce.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 15, 2017, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: Usain on March 15, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 07:33:11 AM
Quote from: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!
No arguments C'Dun are currently a junior club, they couldnt get past a team from the division below who couldnt win their own league. St.Pauls again currently a junior club and are in search of the feel good factor that will turn the tide for them. GNM maybe not so much, they have dipped but jumped to junior too soon imo and could be viewed as opportunistic. I dont think it will be as easy as they think though.
So having established the levels and taking GNM out, how do 2 clubs that were relegated from division 3 last year plus another that couldnt win division 4 think that they should be playing division 3 teams without having earned the right to do so. The prize won on the floor of the county committee room. Maybe you should put your efforts into achieving honest results on grass rather than political horse trading on the carpet.

Here here.

Cushendun and St Pauls should be ashamed for what they requested regarding leagues. They got relegated last year because they weren't good enough, hard lines. Stop your crying and get back to the pitch and try to improve.

Gorts have also let themselves down, looks like they are jumping down a chsip far too soon.

+1 with usain & gizzy on this one.
Not sure who could actually agree with it.
Yet here we are - Antrim all over.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 09:20:41 AM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 15, 2017, 08:49:50 AM
Quote from: Knocknacarry on March 15, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 14, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: Gizzy15 on March 14, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time.

What is a "real" junior club? I can't speak for GNM or St Pauls,but you can rest assured that Cushendun have not volunteraly made the drop to junior hurling.If anyone had seen us over the past 3/4 years they would know that that is the level we are at.Gone are the days where we held our own in Div 1(15 years) and played senior championship.Due to limited numbers,over the past few years,we have regularly had to call on the boys who played senior hurling 20 years ago to make up a team!


This is my point, why then want into a league that is not the Level you are at but not the same in Championship. If you want on pit yourselves against Sarsfields, Tir Na Og & St Endas or whoever else in the league then why stop there? Why happy enough to play championship against the teams you feel your too good to Share a league with? After all it wouldnt have taken a motion for any of these clubs to move up a grade in championship as you can choose to play up in championship.. All the teams that whinged to be moved up in the league should be moved up a grade in Championship (My opinion) otherwise its a farce.
I think it boils down to this and it is truly shocking we as a county have allowed it to happen. We have taken the principle of MERIT and replaced it with ENTITLEMENT which I believe sets a very dangerous precedent for hurling in this county. This is not something that will sort its self out in a year, the die has been cast. I don't really know what is going on here but what we have seen play out is more akin to "House of Cards" than clubs honestly broker what is right for Antrim hurling.
The DIv 1 & 2 clubs cant just sit back and abstain from the conversation because if we are prepared to sacrifice basic values problems wont be long seeping under their doors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on March 15, 2017, 09:27:51 AM
Who voted for the committee ?

Was there a vote for Cushendun and Lamh Dhearg ? I understand Cushendun as a team pulled out, and they were maybe next in line on merit.

On the recent vote, well done the D1 clubs that abstained -1, why not D2 clubs ? For this answer, I don't understand how the voting works.

Hang you head in shame St Pauls, for a league, when you're top, you go up, when you're bottom, you go down – simple, you go both directions on merit.


COMPETITIONS CONTROL COMMITTEE
Eamon Grieve
Alistar McCambridge
Ray Compston
Gregory Walsh
Gerry McClory

DIVISION 1 HURLING
Ballycran
Ruairí Óg
Dunloy
Rossa
Mac Uilin
Naomh Brid
Loughgiel
Ballygalget

DIVISION 2 HURLING
Glenariffe
St John's
Glen Rovers
Cathaoir anRí
Ghaeil Chluanaidh
St.Patrick's
Tír Na nÓg
Naomh Gall

DIVISION 3 HURLING - TBC
Creggan
Naomh Éanna
Lamh Dhearg
Dungannon
Robert Emmets
St Teresa's
Patrick Sarsfields
Bredagh
St Mary's
Gort na Móna 

DIVISION 4 HURLING - TDC
Con Magee's
Loch Mór 
Na Magha
Carryduff
St Pauls
Naomh Colum Cille
Shane Uí Néill

SOUTHANTRIM HURLING - TDC
Ardoyne
Davitts
Lamh Dhearg
O'Donnells
Sarsfields
Sean Treacys
St Agnes
St Endas
St Galls
St Johns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 15, 2017, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: bogieman on March 15, 2017, 09:27:51 AM
Who voted for the committee ?

Was there a vote for Cushendun and Lamh Dhearg ? I understand Cushendun as a team pulled out, and they were maybe next in line on merit.

On the recent vote, well done the D1 clubs that abstained -1, why not D2 clubs ? For this answer, I don't understand how the voting works.

Hang you head in shame St Pauls, for a league, when you're top, you go up, when you're bottom, you go down – simple, you go both directions on merit.


COMPETITIONS CONTROL COMMITTEE
Eamon Grieve
Alistar McCambridge
Ray Compston
Gregory Walsh
Gerry McClory

DIVISION 1 HURLING
Ballycran
Ruairí Óg
Dunloy
Rossa
Mac Uilin
Naomh Brid
Loughgiel
Ballygalget

DIVISION 2 HURLING
Glenariffe
St John's
Glen Rovers
Cathaoir anRí
Ghaeil Chluanaidh
St.Patrick's
Tír Na nÓg
Naomh Gall

DIVISION 3 HURLING - TBC
Creggan
Naomh Éanna
Lamh Dhearg
Dungannon
Robert Emmets
St Teresa's
Patrick Sarsfields
Bredagh
St Mary's
Gort na Móna 

DIVISION 4 HURLING - TDC
Con Magee's
Loch Mór 
Na Magha
Carryduff
St Pauls
Naomh Colum Cille
Shane Uí Néill

SOUTHANTRIM HURLING - TDC
Ardoyne
Davitts
Lamh Dhearg
O'Donnells
Sarsfields
Sean Treacys
St Agnes
St Endas
St Galls
St Johns

When the plan for 8 teams leagues was proposed by Jim Nelsons hurling review the mechanism for Div.3 & 4 was that 2 teams would be relegated from division 3 and 1 promoted from division 4 until we get to 8 teams in division 3 then normal 2 up 2 down resumes. Therefore never mind C'Dun, LDheargs promotion to div.3 is irregular also. For anyone there listening to the division 1 clubs acclaiming the absolute necessity for an 8 team league structure and discounting St.Johns proposal as a result then is that not the standard we aspire to??
I am really shocked at wee J who had he still been chair of the CCC would have laughed these proposals out the door in his own inimitable style, and not even showing any favour to his own club.
What is going on??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 16, 2017, 11:13:29 AM
Part of Jim Nelson's root and branch review at that time also recommended a Director Of Hurling which was never acted on.I got fed up repeating myself at county meetings regarding this matter as well as putting the point across that hurling is on life support in many parts of the county.I gave up as it was the same sound bites from the same people and walked away when the club collapsed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on March 16, 2017, 11:20:58 AM
CCC ARE APPOINTED (SELECTED ) BY COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICERS
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 16, 2017, 12:28:31 PM
As already stated, JE & OW would not have let this happen on their watch.

Surely decisions like these can only be put forward at County Convention and require 2/3's majority.

Now div3/4 players don't know fixtures. These players have family and work commitments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on March 16, 2017, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 16, 2017, 12:28:31 PM
As already stated, JE & OW would not have let this happen on their watch.

Surely decisions like these can only be put forward at County Convention and require 2/3's majority.

Now div3/4 players don't know fixtures. These players have family and work commitments.

Is there anyway that this decision could be overturned at this stage?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: Usain on March 16, 2017, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: CentreHalfBack on March 16, 2017, 12:28:31 PM
As already stated, JE & OW would not have let this happen on their watch.

Surely decisions like these can only be put forward at County Convention and require 2/3's majority.

Now div3/4 players don't know fixtures. These players have family and work commitments.

Is there anyway that this decision could be overturned at this stage?
I am sure if you had a real good understanding of the rules and regulations potentially you could, but the kicker is if it goes to a vote there are delegates well versed in vote management that no matter what sense is talked old allegiances, favours etc will always trump it. The committee and FQ should take charge but with Casement etc. no-one really gives a stuff about trivial matters like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 16, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
I see St Enda's have been listed as one of the teams playing in South Antrim.

I would have thought they would have remained in North Antrim where they were seen as an excellent addition to NA and their hurling has come on in leaps and bounds in recent years with a JHC win and a narrow defeat to Cloghmills in last year's IHC Final which was a great game to hurling for the neutral to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 16, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
I see St Enda's have been listed as one of the teams playing in South Antrim.

I would have thought they would have remained in North Antrim where they were seen as an excellent addition to NA and their hurling has come on in leaps and bounds in recent years with a JHC win and a narrow defeat to Cloghmills in last year's IHC Final which was a great game to hurling for the neutral to watch.

Our reserves are playing in both NA and SA, a big commitment but we want to make sure anyone who wants to hurl gets their chance plus it keeps the heat under the senior first 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 16, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
Endas must have good numbers to field in the Z Squad and South Antrim leagues.

I think those games are played on Tuesday evenings.

Big commitment but benefits outweigh the negatives
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 16, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
Endas must have good numbers to field in the Z Squad and South Antrim leagues.

I think those games are played on Tuesday evenings.

Big commitment but benefits outweigh the negatives

Is it that not having the best of both worlds? I seem to remember St Endas complaining about South Antrim and lack of underage games etc so thats why they went to SW Antrim & N Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)
Aye wouldnt that make your life easy MR.lol. i'll just let the young guns torment you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

Go for the hat trick lol.. St Endas are a very good club and it's great to see them competing. Used to love the St Endas social club after games, many a night I spent in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 07:27:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)

Maybe a WUM but at least I'm not an arrogant tw@t like yourself Dazza boy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
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at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)
Aye wouldnt that make your life easy MR.lol. i'll just let the young guns torment you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)
Aye wouldnt that make your life easy MR.lol. i'll just let the young guns torment you.

Good stuff, great wee hurlers on show on Sunday, with plenty to come on board.. need to progress and give those lads a platform to maintain the effort you and the rest have put in!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 17, 2017, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2017, 12:00:31 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 16, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 16, 2017, 06:08:41 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 16, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.
Aye, and whats your point?

He is a WUM. Anyways last man make sure you're playing the southy leagues  ;)
Aye wouldnt that make your life easy MR.lol. i'll just let the young guns torment you.

Good stuff, great wee hurlers on show on Sunday, with plenty to come on board.. need to progress and give those lads a platform to maintain the effort you and the rest have put in!
With the glass ceiling getting thicker every year FS ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 21, 2017, 08:33:26 AM
I see the minors had a big win over Laois on Saturday, any reports on their performance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
And then several of them played Down and Derry in the U17 Celtic Challenge games the next day....and not a sniff of player welfare concerns.

With alot of these players already dual for their club .... I hope the U17 & U18 county mentors can work better to ensure they don't flog talented players ... we all want them to be fit come summer time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
And then several of them played Down and Derry in the U17 Celtic Challenge games the next day....and not a sniff of player welfare concerns.

With alot of these players already dual for their club .... I hope the U17 & U18 county mentors can work better to ensure they don't flog talented players ... we all want them to be fit come summer time

We are talking about 17/18 year olds......They'll be grand
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
And then several of them played Down and Derry in the U17 Celtic Challenge games the next day....and not a sniff of player welfare concerns.

With alot of these players already dual for their club .... I hope the U17 & U18 county mentors can work better to ensure they don't flog talented players ... we all want them to be fit come summer time

We are talking about 17/18 year olds......They'll be grand

Question, Do Antrim have any U16's on their U17 Celtic Challenge team?

I know Down have and as its meant to be a development team I don't think its right even if some of the U16's are better hurlers than some of the U17's, but as its for "development" I don't think that's the point of the exercise.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 10:17:19 AM
Don't believe so JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 21, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
And then several of them played Down and Derry in the U17 Celtic Challenge games the next day....and not a sniff of player welfare concerns.

With alot of these players already dual for their club .... I hope the U17 & U18 county mentors can work better to ensure they don't flog talented players ... we all want them to be fit come summer time

We are talking about 17/18 year olds......They'll be grand

Question, Do Antrim have any U16's on their U17 Celtic Challenge team?

I know Down have and as its meant to be a development team I don't think its right even if some of the U16's are better hurlers than some of the U17's, but as its for "development" I don't think that's the point of the exercise.
Totally correct JC but its hard to get U17s out and clubs arent that bothered about encouragement of their players leaving the mentors in a difficult position. Good U16s looking ahead to minor are generally more willing hence you see them playing up. Not an easy job taking this age group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 21, 2017, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: Hand up on March 21, 2017, 08:33:26 AM
I see the minors had a big win over Laois on Saturday, any reports on their performance?

No reports but the scorers (per twitter) were Ed McQuillan 3-0, Seann Elliott 0-6, David Kilgore 1-1 and Anton McGrath, Micheal McGreevey and Conor McHugh 0-1 each.

We were beaten by Dublin 2-17 to 0-9 the previous week. Read somewhere that was the Dublin "B" team but whether Dublin streams minors or mixes them up, I'm not sure, as Laois beat Dublin the week before that by 2-13 to 1-13.

Minors now play Westmeath in Leinster Shield Semi Final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 21, 2017, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 21, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 21, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2017, 09:09:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 21, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
And then several of them played Down and Derry in the U17 Celtic Challenge games the next day....and not a sniff of player welfare concerns.

With alot of these players already dual for their club .... I hope the U17 & U18 county mentors can work better to ensure they don't flog talented players ... we all want them to be fit come summer time

We are talking about 17/18 year olds......They'll be grand

Question, Do Antrim have any U16's on their U17 Celtic Challenge team?

I know Down have and as its meant to be a development team I don't think its right even if some of the U16's are better hurlers than some of the U17's, but as its for "development" I don't think that's the point of the exercise.
Totally correct JC but its hard to get U17s out and clubs arent that bothered about encouragement of their players leaving the mentors in a difficult position. Good U16s looking ahead to minor are generally more willing hence you see them playing up. Not an easy job taking this age group.

In fairness to the lads involved with the Down U17 development squads they wouldn't have nearly the same player pool to pick from, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least try to fill it with 17 year olds willing to give up the time and effort required and actually develop them in the truer sense to become better hurlers even if they're not going to be proper intercounty hurlers, but will go back to the clubs in theory better hurlers for their experiences..
Plus its never too late for someone to break through at 17 like one of our lads did the last time Down won the Ulster minors. One lad had never played for any county team at any level but his improvements from 16 to 18 was unreal and he got a late call up to the county minors and a starting berth and is now a regular starter for Down seniors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 24, 2017, 09:45:52 AM
All the best to St Marys this weekend..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 26, 2017, 02:31:35 PM
So where does that defeat leave Antrim re promotion ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 26, 2017, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 26, 2017, 02:31:35 PM
So where does that defeat leave Antrim re promotion ?
Still in the final v Carlow next weekend as far as I know.

Pure shite today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 26, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
What happens after the final? Winner plays off bottom team or has that changed? I am not sure we will beat carlow anyway mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 26, 2017, 11:24:41 PM
that has changed now, winners of 2A final go up - no play off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on March 26, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
And by today's display, straight back down again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 27, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
How significant was the red card?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on March 27, 2017, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 26, 2017, 11:24:41 PM
that has changed now, winners of 2A final go up - no play off.

Not according to the Independent, but you could be right as Wexford go straight up out of Div1B.


Edit from GAA.ie
"Carlow and Antrim will contest the Division 2A Final with the winner earning promotion to Division 1B. Armagh have been relegated from Division 2A to Division 2B."

Image that, the GAA having entirely different rules for the big counties than the lesser counties...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 27, 2017, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 26, 2017, 11:24:41 PM
that has changed now, winners of 2A final go up - no play off.

Not according to the Independent, but you could be right as Wexford go straight up out of Div1B.


Edit from GAA.ie
"Carlow and Antrim will contest the Division 2A Final with the winner earning promotion to Division 1B. Armagh have been relegated from Division 2A to Division 2B."

Image that, the GAA having entirely different rules for the big counties than the lesser counties...

Yeah I saw that somewhere yesterday too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 27, 2017, 03:17:38 PM
Promotion decider on Saturday in Newry, 3pm. Good venue for us I would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 27, 2017, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on March 27, 2017, 03:17:38 PM
Promotion decider on Saturday in Newry, 3pm. Good venue for us I would say.

Last time I saw an Antrim team play a Carlow team there, it didn't end so well for us!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 27, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 27, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
How significant was the red card?

Not convinced that the red card was overly significant in the end result but it was very very harsh to say the least.  Overall the ref was absolutely brutal.   

Westmeath are big and powerful outfit and outmuscled antrim for large parts.  For Antrim, Dillon at full back and Matt Donnelly at centre half were excellent.  Up front I thought young murphy in the corner was the biggest threat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 29, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
At the Celtic cup or Celtic challenge game this evening - nobody here quite sure which the name is!

One success from this is that it's united several of our clubs in like minds - the guys here all agree that their clubs are being paralysed by it!

It's been a long-standing issue that senior county teams can halt club action - looks like we start early now and I don't mean the month of the year!

I have to question the wisdom of such ventures in the grand scale. What is really achieved by this tournament and the like and is it enough to warrant our underage hurlers around Antrim to be denied meaningful trainings & development?

It strikes me that we're focusing on the few at the expenses of the many.
This is shrinking our playing base. Something we simply cannot afford to do any more!

Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 30, 2017, 08:32:10 AM
dont know much about this tournament so dont agree or disagree with you.

How does this tourney halt club action.?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: Megaman on March 30, 2017, 08:32:10 AM
dont know much about this tournament so dont agree or disagree with you.

How does this tourney halt club action.?

Players removed from their clubs to play it in or train for development squads.

It's left several Club guys I spoke to last night having to cancel sessions - or merge U14/16/minor teams to get enough lads for sessions - which caused knock on issues itself.

What stuck me was that exactly the same predicament was being repeated by a range of clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on March 30, 2017, 09:37:31 AM


Players removed from their clubs to play it in or train for development squads.

It's left several Club guys I spoke to last night having to cancel sessions - or merge U14/16/minor teams to get enough lads for sessions - which caused knock on issues itself.

What stuck me was that exactly the same predicament was being repeated by a range of clubs.

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Was at the game myself.  As far as I know the maximum any club had represented was 4 and that "impacted" 2 clubs.  Most clubs had 1 or 2 players on the panel which looked like had c 30 players in total with 15 clubs represented.  So the facts don't seem to back up your anecdotal/hearsay comments.  "Several clubs needing to merge u14/u16/minor" for training when they have 1 or 2 players (max of 4 - again only impacted 2 clubs) getting exposure to a level of hurling which is a step up from the normal club game/session.  If these clubs are having difficulties with numbers for sessions its a tad disingenuous to pin the blame on the u17 development squad, thats what the facts tell me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 30, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on March 30, 2017, 09:37:31 AM


Players removed from their clubs to play it in or train for development squads.

It's left several Club guys I spoke to last night having to cancel sessions - or merge U14/16/minor teams to get enough lads for sessions - which caused knock on issues itself.

What stuck me was that exactly the same predicament was being repeated by a range of clubs.


Was at the game myself.  As far as I know the maximum any club had represented was 4 and that "impacted" 2 clubs.  Most clubs had 1 or 2 players on the panel which looked like had c 30 players in total with 15 clubs represented.  So the facts don't seem to back up your anecdotal/hearsay comments.  "Several clubs needing to merge u14/u16/minor" for training when they have 1 or 2 players (max of 4 - again only impacted 2 clubs) getting exposure to a level of hurling which is a step up from the normal club game/session.  If these clubs are having difficulties with numbers for sessions its a tad disingenuous to pin the blame on the u17 development squad, thats what the facts tell me!
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Good game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 10:08:04 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on March 30, 2017, 09:37:31 AM


Players removed from their clubs to play it in or train for development squads.

It's left several Club guys I spoke to last night having to cancel sessions - or merge U14/16/minor teams to get enough lads for sessions - which caused knock on issues itself.

What stuck me was that exactly the same predicament was being repeated by a range of clubs.


Was at the game myself.  As far as I know the maximum any club had represented was 4 and that "impacted" 2 clubs.  Most clubs had 1 or 2 players on the panel which looked like had c 30 players in total with 15 clubs represented.  So the facts don't seem to back up your anecdotal/hearsay comments.  "Several clubs needing to merge u14/u16/minor" for training when they have 1 or 2 players (max of 4 - again only impacted 2 clubs) getting exposure to a level of hurling which is a step up from the normal club game/session.  If these clubs are having difficulties with numbers for sessions its a tad disingenuous to pin the blame on the u17 development squad, thats what the facts tell me!
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Oh dear.
The original point was broader than the game lasts night - it was about development squads in general.
Also I didn't provide any anecdotal or hearsay evidence - I commented on conversations I had with club men involved in underage setups - and asked if others agreed.


It wasn't a bad game at all but was one too sided to be competitive from the early stages - but a good evening out for a walk!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on March 30, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
but would it not be the same throughout development squads, if not then only a certain maximum number should be allowed from one club, this really shouldnt impact club training to the extent it needs cancelled.

i know in our club, age groups need to join up for training anyway due to the overlap of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: Megaman on March 30, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
but would it not be the same throughout development squads, if not then only a certain maximum number should be allowed from one club, this really shouldnt impact club training to the extent it needs cancelled.

i know in our club, age groups need to join up for training anyway due to the overlap of players.

Yes I'd agree with the maximum number from any club - I don't know if such a rule exists.
That's why I was asking about it.
I also think they county development squads maybe could have a set number from lower achieving clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 30, 2017, 11:17:51 AM
In isolation from any argument about how well and what development squads are achieving.... there is no reason why a reduced club panel can't get a decent session done.

A lot of dual players in Antrim squads, so I hope there's sensible men not setting unrealistic training expectations whenever the club competitions start.

Side note: It would be nice to know if there was any contriteness shown by those who went to Tennents Vital and abandoned their team mates sitting on the bus last August, or did someone go cap in hand to them again purely because of their undoubted talented ( I can hear the words... "acchhh theyre only kids ffs " echoing in my ears) 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
Add in stag weekends and Christenings marragies and the other heap of excuses used by players/clubs during the season never mind before the season starts!! Honestly btdgtt i think you are on the wind up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
Add in stag weekends and Christenings marragies and the other heap of excuses used by players/clubs during the season never mind before the season starts!! Honestly btdgtt i think you are on the wind up!

Jeeezus.
The point was made to me by club coaches that they can't get their teams properly prepared due to so many away so much of them with development squads.
There was also a question as to what is actually coming from these squads.
Not being an underage coach I asked on here what the general feeling was.
Maybe the Boyos were just making it up then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
Add in stag weekends and Christenings marragies and the other heap of excuses used by players/clubs during the season never mind before the season starts!! Honestly btdgtt i think you are on the wind up!

Jeeezus.
The point was made to me by club coaches that they can't get their teams properly prepared due to so many away so much of them with development squads.
There was also a question as to what is actually coming from these squads.
Not being an underage coach I asked on here what the general feeling was.
Maybe the Boyos were just making it up then.

It's about striking a balance with progressing lads within your own club and developing them further within a county set up, which will be working at a higher level with a greater need to improve hurling all round.... these things can only bring on players which in turn can improve a club team... or am I missing something ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 30, 2017, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
Add in stag weekends and Christenings marragies and the other heap of excuses used by players/clubs during the season never mind before the season starts!! Honestly btdgtt i think you are on the wind up!

Jeeezus.
The point was made to me by club coaches that they can't get their teams properly prepared due to so many away so much of them with development squads.
There was also a question as to what is actually coming from these squads.
Not being an underage coach I asked on here what the general feeling was.
Maybe the Boyos were just making it up then.

It's about striking a balance with progressing lads within your own club and developing them further within a county set up, which will be working at a higher level with a greater need to improve hurling all round.... these things can only bring on players which in turn can improve a club team... or am I missing something ??

No your not missing anything.
If that's what's happening then we'd all be delighted.
But judging my the conversations I had at the game that not what everyone believes is the case.
Questions:
Are our underage/development squads improving in relative to other comparative counties?
AND
Are our club hurling leagues at underage level improving in standard?

I don't know or profess to know the answers - hence my post asking!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2017, 11:34:51 PM
So you don't think club players should attend development set ups??

Because based on your chat with all the underage coaches it's causing the club scene at underage (it's still March) to fall apart?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 07:21:18 AM
MR we all im sure want Antrim hurling at all levels to rise. Theres nothing wrong IMO with anyone whos questioning new initiatives and for us all to have a perspective rather than blindly think the upper echelons have every players interest in mind. There could be negatives that aren't being spotted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:03:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 07:21:18 AM
MR we all im sure want Antrim hurling at all levels to rise. Theres nothing wrong IMO with anyone whos questioning new initiatives and for us all to have a perspective rather than blindly think the upper echelons have every players interest in mind. There could be negatives that aren't being spotted.

So continuing to do what we've been doing will continue to give us the same results, there's no blindly following here, give the initiative it's run and if tweaks here and there need applied then do it... the coaches that btdtgtt was talking to probably only interested in their own interests, which is understandable as I've managed at all levels within my club and questioned a lot of things the county did, relating mainly to fixture conjestion....

But it seems again that being negative on here is the norm.... he has said himself he's not coached but happy enough to voice opinion on it without actually having experience of it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:03:38 AM
So continuing to do what we've been doing will continue to give us the same results, there's no blindly following here, give the initiative it's run and if tweaks here and there need applied then do it... the coaches that btdtgtt was talking to probably only interested in their own interests, which is understandable as I've managed at all levels within my club and questioned a lot of things the county did, relating mainly to fixture conjestion....

But it seems again that being negative on here is the norm.... he has said himself he's not coached but happy enough to voice opinion on it without actually having experience of it!

Between actual club players & sanctioned players we've 8 or 9 players involved in U17/18 teams. Theres been plenty of activity at county level for the past few weeks without any break and AFAICS no notification of the full schedule that could have been passed to all club coaches. We've had to cancel 2 challenge games at short notice (not enough players) because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing....theres one improvement that can be made right there...better information sharing of all fixtures on the horizon.
Serious (from the POV of being really interested in all their players) club mentors may see the positives (if they exist in relation to this Celtic Challenge and I'm sure they do...I have no clue about it as I haven't spoken to anyone/enough closely involved .... I'm not prepared to accept the PR machine uber positive spin just yet though) but those same coaches also 'currently' have a justified right to be a bit narked at all the weekends being hoovered up with no consideration for what clubs are meant to be doing at this time of year i.e. Prepping all their players and getting them ready for the year ahead. They all need that valuable game time to make them better players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:03:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 07:21:18 AM
MR we all im sure want Antrim hurling at all levels to rise. Theres nothing wrong IMO with anyone whos questioning new initiatives and for us all to have a perspective rather than blindly think the upper echelons have every players interest in mind. There could be negatives that aren't being spotted.

So continuing to do what we've been doing will continue to give us the same results, there's no blindly following here, give the initiative it's run

The point being made is that it has had it's run for a number of years now. And I'm questioning if it has produced any results?

and if tweaks here and there need applied then do it... the coaches that btdtgtt was talking to probably only interested in their own interests,

You don't know that - after all they were in attendance at the game supporting Antrim

which is understandable as I've managed at all levels within my club and questioned a lot of things the county did, relating mainly to fixture conjestion....

But it seems again that being negative on here is the norm.... he has said himself he's not coached

I said no such thing - I said I wasn't currently coaching.


but happy enough to voice opinion on it without actually having experience of it!

Well I didn't voice an opinion - I asked a question. But that's said I might be missing the point of this board - which is to share opinions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 08:03:38 AM
So continuing to do what we've been doing will continue to give us the same results, there's no blindly following here, give the initiative it's run and if tweaks here and there need applied then do it... the coaches that btdtgtt was talking to probably only interested in their own interests, which is understandable as I've managed at all levels within my club and questioned a lot of things the county did, relating mainly to fixture conjestion....

But it seems again that being negative on here is the norm.... he has said himself he's not coached but happy enough to voice opinion on it without actually having experience of it!

Between actual club players & sanctioned players we've 8 or 9 players involved in U17/18 teams. Theres been plenty of activity at county level for the past few weeks without any break and AFAICS no notification of the full schedule that could have been passed to all club coaches. We've had to cancel 2 challenge games at short notice (not enough players) because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing....theres one improvement that can be made right there...better information sharing of all fixtures on the horizon.
Serious (from the POV of being really interested in all their players) club mentors may see the positives (if they exist in relation to this Celtic Challenge and I'm sure they do...I have no clue about it as I haven't spoken to anyone/enough closely involved .... I'm not prepared to accept the PR machine uber positive spin just yet though) but those same coaches also 'currently' have a justified right to be a bit narked at all the weekends being hoovered up with no consideration for what clubs are meant to be doing at this time of year i.e. Prepping all their players and getting them ready for the year ahead. They all need that valuable game time to make them better players

Thanks Skull.
That's precisely the sentiment that was expressed to me at the game.
So much so that some of our county executive are also now questioning the developments squads from the rationale that they've been heavily invested in terms of money and time - and aren't yielding very much if anything in return.
Credit due the whole thing is being looked at and consulted with other counties.

Maybe they just should have asked MR2 tho?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
Dev squad players sell tickets that move than cover the poor standard gear that they get. The majority of any spend is on buses to get down south (2 or 3 trips a year) and a meal on the way home. Theres no food after training. Players make their way to training. I'd say Antrims spend per juvenile team is a fraction of other counties. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
Dev squad players sell tickets that move than cover the poor standard gear that they get. The majority of any spend is on buses to get down south (2 or 3 trips a year) and a meal on the way home. Theres no food after training. Players make their way to training. I'd say Antrims spend per juvenile team is a fraction of other counties.

Certainly is - but so is our budget.

The Saffron vision ain't happy with the cost/benefit.

Shouldn't need to say it - but I don't for one minute question the time put in by players of coaches at either club or county levels affected!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 10:37:34 AM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
Dev squad players sell tickets that move than cover the poor standard gear that they get. The majority of any spend is on buses to get down south (2 or 3 trips a year) and a meal on the way home. Theres no food after training. Players make their way to training. I'd say Antrims spend per juvenile team is a fraction of other counties.
Certainly is - but so is our budget.

The Saffron vision ain't happy with the cost/benefit.

Indeed... so lets not call it "heavy investment". Its low investment and dev squad players can smell it when alot of things look and feel half hearted. Its natural enough I'd say for players to compare their lot with the other counties around them and I do think it has an effect on commitment and performance levels.
Difficult to wrestle with that truth whenever money is tight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 10:58:13 AM
So based on those few comments above, if we have the money to spend we'll yield a better hurling county?

And what if that fails to make us competitive, who do we blame then?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
So based on those few comments above, if we have the money to spend we'll yield a better hurling county?

No. But I'd be willing to say the lack of money is symptomatic of the lack of passionate interest in enough people and if we had more of them we'd yield a better hurling county. Those who have the passion for the game are as passionate as any other counties gaels but we run out of numbers sadly.

And what if that fails to make us competitive, who do we blame then?
  Who's apportioning blame?  :o   We're just shootin' the breeze are we not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
So based on those few comments above, if we have the money to spend we'll yield a better hurling county?

No. But I'd be willing to say the lack of money is symptomatic of the lack of passionate interest in enough people and if we had more of them we'd yield a better hurling county. Those who have the passion for the game are as passionate as any other counties gaels but we run out of numbers sadly.

And what if that fails to make us competitive, who do we blame then?
  Who's apportioning blame?  :o   We're just shootin' the breeze are we not?

+1 agree on both.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
So where/how are we going to generate this money? Skull you keep saying about getting the coaches all working to a set standard and parents buying into it and getting involved and so forth which i totaly buy in to (no pun intended) but the reality is somewhat different, I look around my club and its the same faces for generations that are doing the similar jobs for different teams over the years...

Parents can be useful but also a hinderance, complaining about their wee johnny not getting to hit the frees or playing in defence when he should be up front, wrestled with this for many years.... money doesnt win you anything within a club, a plan and a goal sets you up, getting everyone to stick to those things is the hardest part...

As for the County, its dammed if they do and dammed if they dont try it, shooting the breeze or blaming, call it what you want, most people have their own agendas withing their club, whilst not having your full complement of players for training isnt ideal its not like they are sitting twiddling their thumbs... under 12 under 14's can train together, under 16 and minors train together to get the numbers right for a session, a good coach can adopt a session based on the numbers and the lads involved will have come away with a good workout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
So where/how are we going to generate this money? Skull you keep saying about getting the coaches all working to a set standard and parents buying into it and getting involved and so forth which i totaly buy in to (no pun intended) but the reality is somewhat different, I look around my club and its the same faces for generations that are doing the similar jobs for different teams over the years...

Parents can be useful but also a hinderance, complaining about their wee johnny not getting to hit the frees or playing in defence when he should be up front, wrestled with this for many years.... money doesnt win you anything within a club, a plan and a goal sets you up, getting everyone to stick to those things is the hardest part...

As for the County, its dammed if they do and dammed if they dont try it, shooting the breeze or blaming, call it what you want, most people have their own agendas withing their club, whilst not having your full complement of players for training isnt ideal its not like they are sitting twiddling their thumbs... under 12 under 14's can train together, under 16 and minors train together to get the numbers right for a session, a good coach can adopt a session based on the numbers and the lads involved will have come away with a good workout

I don't have any answers MR sorry.

I've already stated that any coach can train a small panel ... no disagreement there. Wouldn't you agree those club players deserve slack in the system to allow them to benefit from challenge games the same as county players at this time of year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Our 1st official minor fixture tonight cancelled due to County fixtures over the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on March 31, 2017, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Our 1st official minor fixture tonight cancelled due to County fixtures over the weekend.

Say no more.
Turns out those folks during the week were not making things up after all.
Who would have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Our 1st official minor fixture tonight cancelled due to County fixtures over the weekend.

Re fixed or cancelled completely ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 31, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 31, 2017, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Our 1st official minor fixture tonight cancelled due to County fixtures over the weekend.
F***in Belfast clubs again no doubt.

Damn McCooeys... judging by the rain that's fallen around North Antrim today, there won't be many games played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2017, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 31, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
Our 1st official minor fixture tonight cancelled due to County fixtures over the weekend.

Re fixed or cancelled completely ?

::) jesus
You are familiar with the concept of fixture congestion aren't you? Is it OK with you if that matters to me?   :o
Last August we had lads who were eligible to play in 18 games in 21 days ... these are the knock on effects of batting stuff down the road. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2017, 04:39:05 PM
Good win today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 01, 2017, 05:41:40 PM
Well Done Antrim good win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 01, 2017, 09:17:43 PM
Come on fellas...today's achievement is worthy of more than a cursory few lines! Well done everyone. Dug very deep today when under big pressure at the 3/4 mark. The conditions didn't allow for precision hurling but overall we were the better hurling side. When it came down to fight and spirit we weren't lacking either, great to to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on April 01, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
Congrats to all involved and hopefully they can build on this and get back to the higher level of hurling we are used to.

Brendan right. If we had been beaten today there would be people queuing up to pass comment. Credit where it's due please.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 01, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
Laois stay in 1B at Kerry's expense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2017, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
Congrats to all involved and hopefully they can build on this and get back to the higher level of hurling we are used to.

Brendan right. If we had been beaten today there would be people queuing up to pass comment. Credit where it's due please.
Last century?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 01, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
Quote from: bannside on April 01, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
Congrats to all involved and hopefully they can build on this and get back to the higher level of hurling we are used to.

Brendan right. If we had been beaten today there would be people queuing up to pass comment. Credit where it's due please.

Think you're on the wrong thread
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 01, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
Well done fellas. Great result. Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 02, 2017, 08:05:34 AM
Great result and we were well worth our win, congratulations to the boys, the referee was something else though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 03, 2017, 09:09:21 AM
Away with work at the moment how did the game go - not much media reports other than scores!
I agree credit deserved for the win and securing promotion - it's a box ticked and a much more attractive fixture list next year. A job well done when could have easily let it go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 03, 2017, 10:09:01 AM
agreed, its been a tough slog for the panel and they have had more downs than ups but fair play to them all. They dug in and got the result we all wanted and back up to 1b. well done to everyone involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 03, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
Well done to all involved on the promotion.

I think we should be looking at Wexford over the next year or so and show what progress can be made when a group fully commits to a philosophy.

Antrim were on a par with Wexford in recent years, slightly behind to be fair but there or there abouts. So I think great encouragement can be taken from this type of situation as a template.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 03, 2017, 01:09:46 PM
Davey fitz would of went in there on the promise of the facilities, support and money necessary in order to do the job the same as he did with Clare & Waterford. From working with him he demands 100% all the time and his training sessions are brilliant, pure intensity all the time. His back room team work non stop finding that small extra percentage in each individual to try and improve them as a team.

would be nice to see it happen but the current management are doing a top job with what we have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 03, 2017, 02:34:21 PM
Great report in the Irish News, btdtgtt - very detailed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
Well done to all involved on the promotion.

I think we should be looking at Wexford over the next year or so and show what progress can be made when a group fully commits to a philosophy.

Antrim were on a par with Wexford in recent years, slightly behind to be fair but there or there abouts. So I think great encouragement can be taken from this type of situation as a template.

Was thinking the same thing myself Nag
We beat them ( wexford ) at u21 fair and square
Lee Chin, Connor Mc Donald and guiney where all on the pitch that day and they where prolific In the beating of Kilkenny yesterday
If we applied ourselves we could be doing better
I just wish Ryan mc ambridge, Saul , Connolly  would commit
Young murphy and Rooney are two big finds this year
Plenty of young players coming through as well, Coby and Molloy, eamon smith from my club
Smith already has the physical attributes
Imm Sure there is players from Belfast to and the rest of N Antrim

Our county current team are very honest and have been  knocking their pans in since last year and I hope they can get a christy ring
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 03, 2017, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 03, 2017, 07:52:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 03, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
Well done to all involved on the promotion.

I think we should be looking at Wexford over the next year or so and show what progress can be made when a group fully commits to a philosophy.

Antrim were on a par with Wexford in recent years, slightly behind to be fair but there or there abouts. So I think great encouragement can be taken from this type of situation as a template.

+1

Was thinking the same thing myself Nag
We beat them ( wexford ) at u21 fair and square
Lee Chin, Connor Mc Donald and guiney where all on the pitch that day and they where prolific In the beating of Kilkenny yesterday
If we applied ourselves we could be doing better
I just wish Ryan mc ambridge, Saul , Connolly  would commit
Young murphy and Rooney are two big finds this year
Plenty of young players coming through as well, Coby and Molloy, eamon smith from my club
Smith already has the physical attributes
Imm Sure there is players from Belfast to and the rest of N Antrim

Our county current team are very honest and have been  knocking their pans in since last year and I hope they can get a christy ring
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 03, 2017, 11:50:31 PM
With the new system in place whereby the CR winners enter the AI qualifiers, we could find ourselves in the Liam McCarthy competition this year...no shortage of games for the hurlers with league, Ulster c'ship, CR Cup and potentially AI series.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gizzy15 on April 04, 2017, 12:34:07 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 03, 2017, 11:50:31 PM
With the new system in place whereby the CR winners enter the AI qualifiers, we could find ourselves in the Liam McCarthy competition this year...no shortage of games for the hurlers with league, Ulster c'ship, CR Cup and potentially AI series.

Not wanting to sound too negative but I hope this doesn't result in a shortage of club games for a few of the best months of the year for hurling. Think if there is a county fixture overload then the CB and clubs affected should just bite the bullet so to speak and plough on with the club scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
CR usually Saturday fixtures??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 04, 2017, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
CR usually Saturday fixtures??

yes.

It's a big ask on lads to play two days on the bounce but we've been asking our lads to do if for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
CR usually Saturday fixtures??

Normally yeah. A very rare occasion on a Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 04, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
CR usually Saturday fixtures??

Normally yeah. A very rare occasion on a Sunday.

Then we will have the player welfare issue of teams not wanting to play on the sunday after their main men are tired or injured from the day before.

I think we need to suck it up this season and make a push with the county team and the clubs all pushing hard at the same time. Keep the league running and hopefully get a CR title something to build on for next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2017, 09:31:59 AM
As problems go it's not a bad one to have!

Let's hope we qualify and keep a vibrant club scene going - bumper summer hurling could set us up for few years to come.
Imagine the county team going well and loads of club games where guys suddenly want to get noticed by the county management.

Small acorns and all that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 04, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
CR usually Saturday fixtures??

Normally yeah. A very rare occasion on a Sunday.

Then we will have the player welfare issue of teams not wanting to play on the sunday after their main men are tired or injured from the day before.

I think we need to suck it up this season and make a push with the county team and the clubs all pushing hard at the same time. Keep the league running and hopefully get a CR title something to build on for next year.

I remember going to one in Swatragh quite a few years ago when Derry played Carlow on a Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 04, 2017, 11:54:26 AM
They are all on Saturdays this year. 8 teams in total, if a team goes unbeaten they play 4 games in total, finishing with final on June 10th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on April 04, 2017, 11:57:08 AM
Playing CR games on either Saturdays or Sundays should have no impact on club games IMO. We need to put the 99% of our playing population ahead of the elite few. Club league games must go ahead regardless of county team action.

I noticed young Dillon played for Armoy on Sunday at midfield after playing for county last Saturday. Fair play to him. Lets just get on with it and if the county lads don't want to play two days in the row that's also alright and their clubs have to respect that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 04, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on April 04, 2017, 11:57:08 AM
Playing CR games on either Saturdays or Sundays should have no impact on club games IMO. We need to put the 99% of our playing population ahead of the elite few. Club league games must go ahead regardless of county team action.

I noticed young Dillon played for Armoy on Sunday at midfield after playing for county last Saturday. Fair play to him. Lets just get on with it and if the county lads don't want to play two days in the row that's also alright and their clubs have to respect that.

What happens if the young lad doesn't want to play two games in a row and decides to pull out of the county squad, would the county management respect that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on April 04, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on April 04, 2017, 11:57:08 AM
Playing CR games on either Saturdays or Sundays should have no impact on club games IMO. We need to put the 99% of our playing population ahead of the elite few. Club league games must go ahead regardless of county team action.

I noticed young Dillon played for Armoy on Sunday at midfield after playing for county last Saturday. Fair play to him. Lets just get on with it and if the county lads don't want to play two days in the row that's also alright and their clubs have to respect that.

What happens if the young lad doesn't want to play two games in a row and decides to pull out of the county squad, would the county management respect that?

Probably not but county team/manager need to waken up and realise that they cant hold the club game to ransom all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 04, 2017, 01:50:39 PM
Quote from: Usain on April 04, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 04, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on April 04, 2017, 11:57:08 AM
Playing CR games on either Saturdays or Sundays should have no impact on club games IMO. We need to put the 99% of our playing population ahead of the elite few. Club league games must go ahead regardless of county team action.

I noticed young Dillon played for Armoy on Sunday at midfield after playing for county last Saturday. Fair play to him. Lets just get on with it and if the county lads don't want to play two days in the row that's also alright and their clubs have to respect that.

What happens if the young lad doesn't want to play two games in a row and decides to pull out of the county squad, would the county management respect that?

Probably not but county team/manager need to waken up and realise that they cant hold the club game to ransom all the time.

Totally agree - but the reality is they can and do.
Hopefully we buck the trend this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Ref'd a game on Sunday that had county players that played on the Sat, they played very well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 04, 2017, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Ref'd a game on Sunday that had county players that played on the Sat, they played very well

Did they start on Saturday though? and it was a pretty one sided game one Sunday to if it the one I'm thinking of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2017, 02:45:38 PM
Not sure but they have been county regulars and training with the county team, but both played and played very well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on April 06, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
Sent to clubs today...

The County Hurling management team would like to request that our County players do not play on Sunday 23rd in the All County League fixtures. All players can resume playing for their club the following Sunday 30th April. We feel that the two games on Saturday 22nd and 29th April are of the utmost importance to the progression of the County team in our All Ireland championship campaign. We feel that preparation for these two games needs to be fully in our hands. As we hopefully progress we can then assess the needs of the clubs and the County.

Hope this meets with your approval
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 06, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
MR2

One lad started, he came on as a sub on the game you ref'd and the other didn't get a game for county, he started the club game.

Both just keen to get back to play for their clubs.

You had a good game btw on Sunday, let the game flow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 06, 2017, 08:47:15 PM
Quote from: aontroim on April 06, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
Sent to clubs today...

The County Hurling management team would like to request that our County players do not play on Sunday 23rd in the All County League fixtures. All players can resume playing for their club the following Sunday 30th April. We feel that the two games on Saturday 22nd and 29th April are of the utmost importance to the progression of the County team in our All Ireland championship campaign. We feel that preparation for these two games needs to be fully in our hands. As we hopefully progress we can then assess the needs of the clubs and the County.

Hope this meets with your approval

And with that all the promise of a new start grinds to a depressingly familiar halt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 07, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 07, 2017, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 07, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 07, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 07, 2017, 01:37:03 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 07, 2017, 01:59:15 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on April 07, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 07, 2017, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 07, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 07, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 07, 2017, 01:32:11 PM
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on April 07, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
Funny that the County  Chairman would like Corrigan upgraded!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on April 08, 2017, 12:58:30 PM
Quick Question, can we play ulster championship games at home in football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 08, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 08, 2017, 12:58:30 PM
Quick Question, can we play ulster championship games at home in football?

Don't think it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on April 08, 2017, 07:53:16 PM
Think that's question for 2018 as we are out again!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2017, 11:13:34 AM
made me laugh when i read that at the weekend. to be fair i was in corrigan Thursday night with the camogs and the pitch was in good condition considering the amount its been used.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 10, 2017, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 10, 2017, 11:13:34 AM
made me laugh when i read that at the weekend. to be fair i was in corrigan Thursday night with the camogs and the pitch was in good condition considering the amount its been used.

Was there not money already put into Corrigan to bring it up to the standard that it is currently at?

Seems a serious case of opportunism but who would be surprised by that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 10, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
It's for the betterment of Antrim GAA & will help Belfast GAA..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 10, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
it opens the door for other clubs to ask as well who have hosted games. Cushendall is a good alternative for the matches, as are the others who have hosted games over the past few years.Do they not get offered it?

Having stood in ballycastle a fair few times im sure they will be peeved that this was offered for them as well.

As others have said, get the strimmer out first
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 10, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 10, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
It's for the betterment of Antrim GAA & will help Belfast GAA.. St Johns

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 10, 2017, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 10, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 10, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
It's for the betterment of Antrim GAA & will help Belfast GAA.. St Johns

Fixed that for you

Top man!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2017, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone who thinks having a stand will improve your club team is a fool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 10, 2017, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2017, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone who thinks having a stand will improve your club team is a fool

A drop of fizz in their beer wouldn't go amiss either!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 09:01:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2017, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone who thinks having a stand will improve your club team is a fool

I was not referring to the team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 09:01:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2017, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone who thinks having a stand will improve your club team is a fool

I was not referring to the team

Just the ground then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 09:01:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2017, 04:25:59 PM
Anyone who thinks having a stand will improve your club team is a fool

I was not referring to the team

Just the ground then?

Yeah and the future of the club, to me it sends out the wrong signal. Plenty of clubs are working away hard selling tickets, running events and grafting to put on the ground what ever it is they need.

I see no evidence of this in this case, seems to be stand with your hand out long enough and someone will eventually sort it for you.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 13, 2017, 09:51:21 AM
ahoghill and ballycastle did it for a few years with no money offered and plenty of vols out on wet cold days to make sure the county matches went ahead.

As i said before, they might be a bit pissed off that nothing was offered to them. Cushendall held 2 games, very well i might add, and have a good terrace to watch the match, im sure they would want a nice covered stand for the county games held there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on April 13, 2017, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.

It is only human nature for someone to help out his own when one has been given such powers...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.

You have the same core element within a club that do all the work, all clubs have it, be it coaching managers, groundsmen.

Parents of kids is a very small percentage of generating income in my opinion unless they get involved with helping out, in Belfast people drop their kids off and pick them up at the end of a session/match, very rarely do they stay, in most cases the kids are picked up by another parent who'll be a clubman of sorts whose own kid is a player...

The community aspect is not the same as it would be in Cushendall, or other clubs which have a very small town or village set up, the hurling field is part of their community hub, most people have hurled for that club or have had some input into the running of it so they have bought into it a long time ago and feel the need to improve on it and that means funding, be it lotto, or Gala nights and other fundraisers...

Based on what ive seen at my own club having so many teams doesnt translate into making more money, just draining the club even further of the money its got....

People have very short memories of the facilities that were on show in their own clubs recent pasts, Belfast clubs for most parts have let that go, you cant start knocking them now if they make inroads into improving their clubs now!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 13, 2017, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.

You have the same core element within a club that do all the work, all clubs have it, be it coaching managers, groundsmen.

Parents of kids is a very small percentage of generating income in my opinion unless they get involved with helping out, in Belfast people drop their kids off and pick them up at the end of a session/match, very rarely do they stay, in most cases the kids are picked up by another parent who'll be a clubman of sorts whose own kid is a player...

The community aspect is not the same as it would be in Cushendall, or other clubs which have a very small town or village set up, the hurling field is part of their community hub, most people have hurled for that club or have had some input into the running of it so they have bought into it a long time ago and feel the need to improve on it and that means funding, be it lotto, or Gala nights and other fundraisers...

Based on what ive seen at my own club having so many teams doesnt translate into making more money, just draining the club even further of the money its got....

People have very short memories of the facilities that were on show in their own clubs recent pasts, Belfast clubs for most parts have let that go, you cant start knocking them now if they make inroads into improving their clubs now!!

No one is knocking anyone for trying to improve their club.  Hard work via fundraising activities for improvement will be well supported. If St Johns men arrive at the doors in Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy etc they will be well received, of that I have no doubt.  What is grating people here is opportunism of trying to leverage funds that other clubs should be just as entitled to. Why would/should St Johns be seen as the natural location for a new stand? I would argue that there are half a dozen clubs in Antrim that have better supporting infrastructure and the investment in a stand would make more sense at these clubs.

Transparency in the decision making process is essentially what it all boils down to. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 13, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Usain on April 13, 2017, 10:30:44 AM
It is only human nature for someone to help out his own when one has been given such powers...........
;D ;D

(https://insidethemindofanaspie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/sarcasm_detector.jpg)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
Stick a roof over our (Sarsfields) terracing and there you go, we suggested this to the county 5 years ago along with a detailed plan we had to host county games.

4 New changing rooms getting built at the minute.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 13, 2017, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.

You have the same core element within a club that do all the work, all clubs have it, be it coaching managers, groundsmen.

Parents of kids is a very small percentage of generating income in my opinion unless they get involved with helping out, in Belfast people drop their kids off and pick them up at the end of a session/match, very rarely do they stay, in most cases the kids are picked up by another parent who'll be a clubman of sorts whose own kid is a player...

The community aspect is not the same as it would be in Cushendall, or other clubs which have a very small town or village set up, the hurling field is part of their community hub, most people have hurled for that club or have had some input into the running of it so they have bought into it a long time ago and feel the need to improve on it and that means funding, be it lotto, or Gala nights and other fundraisers...

Based on what ive seen at my own club having so many teams doesnt translate into making more money, just draining the club even further of the money its got....

People have very short memories of the facilities that were on show in their own clubs recent pasts, Belfast clubs for most parts have let that go, you cant start knocking them now if they make inroads into improving their clubs now!!

No one is knocking anyone for trying to improve their club.  Hard work via fundraising activities for improvement will be well supported. If St Johns men arrive at the doors in Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy etc they will be well received, of that I have no doubt.  What is grating people here is opportunism of trying to leverage funds that other clubs should be just as entitled to. Why would/should St Johns be seen as the natural location for a new stand? I would argue that there are half a dozen clubs in Antrim that have better supporting infrastructure and the investment in a stand would make more sense at these clubs.

Transparency in the decision making process is essentially what it all boils down to.

I'm all for it, some sort of criteria to get the best possible venue, Belfast needs to have a stadium of sorts and thats not biased at all, Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Kilkenny and a host of other major towns/cities in Ireland have that, Antrim has not got it in its major city where most of its clubs are based.... I'd much rather we had teh money to do our club up as place to host county games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 13, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
Stick a roof over our (Sarsfields) terracing and there you go, we suggested this to the county 5 years ago along with a detailed plan we had to host county games.

4 New changing rooms getting built at the minute.

Aye but its not Corrigan! I agree that you lads would be a good option but what would you do with parking?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 13, 2017, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 13, 2017, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 13, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 09:55:35 AM
Have you been the the Johnnies ground since the stand has been gone? They have to their credit, have great changing room facilites an indoor training center underneath the clubhouse and a decent pitch,

Like every other club the Johnnies have been doing fundraisers for years, their major handicap is having so many teams, ladies teams hurling and football to support that's a lot harder to support than lets say, Cushendall or Cargin who have one code to cater for... the money raised is going three ways instead of one

If they get a stand (thats a big if) then so be it, I (being a Naomh Gall man) wouldnt begrudge them it as all the clubs, our's included need to update our facilites, its wont make us a better team or encourage more kids to play, but will certainly bring the GAA into the 21 centuary

Yeah I have been up to see the 'new' facilities.

I would say they are not on their own in running so many teams, but to me that would actually increase the number of people/ families that they would have in the club? No?

I am not arguing that it is not needed, but totally smacks of opportunism to me. This if you look back is a historical element linking back to the whole redevelopment of Casement.

You have the same core element within a club that do all the work, all clubs have it, be it coaching managers, groundsmen.

Parents of kids is a very small percentage of generating income in my opinion unless they get involved with helping out, in Belfast people drop their kids off and pick them up at the end of a session/match, very rarely do they stay, in most cases the kids are picked up by another parent who'll be a clubman of sorts whose own kid is a player...

The community aspect is not the same as it would be in Cushendall, or other clubs which have a very small town or village set up, the hurling field is part of their community hub, most people have hurled for that club or have had some input into the running of it so they have bought into it a long time ago and feel the need to improve on it and that means funding, be it lotto, or Gala nights and other fundraisers...

Based on what ive seen at my own club having so many teams doesnt translate into making more money, just draining the club even further of the money its got....

People have very short memories of the facilities that were on show in their own clubs recent pasts, Belfast clubs for most parts have let that go, you cant start knocking them now if they make inroads into improving their clubs now!!

No one is knocking anyone for trying to improve their club.  Hard work via fundraising activities for improvement will be well supported. If St Johns men arrive at the doors in Cushendall, Loughgiel, Dunloy etc they will be well received, of that I have no doubt.  What is grating people here is opportunism of trying to leverage funds that other clubs should be just as entitled to. Why would/should St Johns be seen as the natural location for a new stand? I would argue that there are half a dozen clubs in Antrim that have better supporting infrastructure and the investment in a stand would make more sense at these clubs.

Transparency in the decision making process is essentially what it all boils down to.

I'm all for it, some sort of criteria to get the best possible venue, Belfast needs to have a stadium of sorts and thats not biased at all, Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Kilkenny and a host of other major towns/cities in Ireland have that, Antrim has not got it in its major city where most of its clubs are based.... I'd much rather we had teh money to do our club up as place to host county games

Casement is surely the answer. It should still be operating as our county ground but we'll not get into the mess that has got us to where we are now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
It is the answer but as yet its not!! We'll be having this Casement chat for another ten years the way things are carrying on, get something built !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 13, 2017, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
Stick a roof over our (Sarsfields) terracing and there you go, we suggested this to the county 5 years ago along with a detailed plan we had to host county games.

4 New changing rooms getting built at the minute.

Great facilities but parking would be an issue surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
We had an agreement with a local school for the use of there facilities for parking.

Was part of the plan presented.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
We had an agreement with a local school for the use of there facilities for parking.

Was part of the plan presented.

Cant understand why it wasn't taken into consideration. Bear Pit is as good a surface as any in the county.  Also better viewing with the terrace and seating now than Corrigan.

Looking to get a stand at Corrigan is opportunism by the county chairman and indeed looking after your own. As somebody else posted, clubs like Cushendall, Dunloy, Ballycastle and Loughiel all hosted Hurling & Creggan and Ahoghill hosted Football, surely they can feel aggrieved that they haven't been offered this. In fact would Ahoghill not be the place for it as it has Floodlights for those championship games like St Galls V Lamh Dhearg last year. Does this plan for the stand inclued floodlights?

Do the powers that be think a stand at Corrigan will increase attendances and before its cast my direction, I didn't attend all county games this season in Corrigan due to other commitments.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2017, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
We had an agreement with a local school for the use of there facilities for parking.

Was part of the plan presented.

What school was that Stillwater?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 13, 2017, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
We had an agreement with a local school for the use of there facilities for parking.

Was part of the plan presented.

St. Genivieves?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 14, 2017, 09:03:16 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 13, 2017, 10:32:15 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on April 13, 2017, 03:45:14 PM
We had an agreement with a local school for the use of there facilities for parking.

Was part of the plan presented.
Did you not also have a plan to run a road up the Rossa pitch to the Shaws Road?

Now there's an idea I can get on board with  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 14, 2017, 10:14:49 AM
Be interesting to see it. Was it dismissed by the Co Board at the time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 14, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Rightly or wrongly ...... I think we'll see a decrease in financial good will toward our county fund raising efforts on the back of this suggestion the chairmans club really needs these facilities ahead of others who've been regularly hosting for years in the wind and sleet.

There's a distinct inability to make good strategic decisions around facilities that makes total sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
there's no need now, Davitts have it all sorted over at Beechmount.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2017, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
there's no need now, Davitts have it all sorted over at Beechmount.

So tell all!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2017, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
there's no need now, Davitts have it all sorted over at Beechmount.

So tell all!!

Spotted the breaking news of a big development in Beechmount on the Falls News facebook page!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2017, 03:34:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2017, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 14, 2017, 01:04:23 PM
there's no need now, Davitts have it all sorted over at Beechmount.

So tell all!!

Spotted the breaking news of a big development in Beechmount on the Falls News facebook page!

Big space there I thought it was going to be taken over by the Irish school, good news if that's the case
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2017, 04:48:18 PM
Well done to our county hurlers
Anyone at the match, where we that good or was Armagh worse than the league encounter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on April 16, 2017, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2017, 04:48:18 PM
Well done to our county hurlers
Anyone at the match, where we that good or was Armagh worse than the league encounter

Report on rte website seems to suggest bit of both. Hitting our stride at the right time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on April 19, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Big game on Saturday against Carlow. How do you guys see it going. Should be a close game with some good hurling from both sides. Pitch at Carlow looking immaculate. I'm hoping our extra games in the Ulster Championship stand is in good stead and we take victory over a Carlow team who will be gunning for revenge. Saffs Abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 20, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on April 19, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Big game on Saturday against Carlow. How do you guys see it going. Should be a close game with some good hurling from both sides. Pitch at Carlow looking immaculate. I'm hoping our extra games in the Ulster Championship stand is in good stead and we take victory over a Carlow team who will be gunning for revenge. Saffs Abu
Will be interested to see if Carlow put less effort into niggling and trying to draw cards and fouls and just hurl instead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 20, 2017, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 20, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on April 19, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
Big game on Saturday against Carlow. How do you guys see it going. Should be a close game with some good hurling from both sides. Pitch at Carlow looking immaculate. I'm hoping our extra games in the Ulster Championship stand is in good stead and we take victory over a Carlow team who will be gunning for revenge. Saffs Abu
Will be interested to see if Carlow put less effort into niggling and trying to draw cards and fouls and just hurl instead.

This is anyone's game
Carlow feel they are due a win and are using something woody said in the press as motivation
Gonna be tough to come out with a result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2017, 05:07:01 PM
Brilliant win.

That was a tight game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 22, 2017, 07:32:01 PM
Some return from N McM. A true leader

Well done to all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: btdtgtt on April 22, 2017, 07:36:25 PM
Away with work and that result cheered me up a bit! Great news and well done to team and management!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Well done to our hurlers
Carlow must be sick looking at us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 23, 2017, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Well done to our hurlers
Carlow must be sick looking at us
Carlow will be sick they didnt finish us for they dominated for large parts of the game. Fair play to these boys for grinding Carlow down, starting players and subs deserve huge credit but theres no denying McManus is the heartbeat of the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 08:41:34 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 23, 2017, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Well done to our hurlers
Carlow must be sick looking at us
Carlow will be sick they didnt finish us for they dominated for large parts of the game. Fair play to these boys for grinding Carlow down, starting players and subs deserve huge credit but theres no denying McManus is the heartbeat of the team.

And there's a very good chance you'll end up playing them again the way the CR is structured.

What happened all the Div1 league games yesterday, only two games played it seems?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
all cancelled due to the CR cup matches being on.

Our reserves beat Loughgiel for once, makes a change with a bit of structure there in the reserves this time. Last year i think we only played 4/5 games which is no use at all.

One good thing to come out of sat was that i could laugh at that Carlow radio commentators as we beat them. Christ they were hard to listen to for the duration to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
all cancelled due to the CR cup matches being on.

Our reserves beat Loughgiel for once, makes a change with a bit of structure there in the reserves this time. Last year i think we only played 4/5 games which is no use at all.

One good thing to come out of sat was that i could laugh at that Carlow radio commentators as we beat them. Christ they were hard to listen to for the duration to.

We'd CR games on as well and ended up with lads playing both days!! I'd say we'd have gotten a short shift from Saffron vision if we'd look to cancel because of it.

Will our game with you go ahead this Sunday, you think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 24, 2017, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 08:41:34 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 23, 2017, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Well done to our hurlers
Carlow must be sick looking at us
Carlow will be sick they didnt finish us for they dominated for large parts of the game. Fair play to these boys for grinding Carlow down, starting players and subs deserve huge credit but theres no denying McManus is the heartbeat of the team.

And there's a very good chance you'll end up playing them again the way the CR is structured.

What happened all the Div1 league games yesterday, only two games played it seems?
Yes I'd say so, Carlow were well improved from Newry. Our forwards were living off scraps for long periods but the video will show plenty we can improve on as well. Another nail biter in store.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
all cancelled due to the CR cup matches being on.

Our reserves beat Loughgiel for once, makes a change with a bit of structure there in the reserves this time. Last year i think we only played 4/5 games which is no use at all.

One good thing to come out of sat was that i could laugh at that Carlow radio commentators as we beat them. Christ they were hard to listen to for the duration to.


We'd CR games on as well and ended up with lads playing both days!! I'd say we'd have gotten a short shift from Saffron vision if we'd look to cancel because of it.

Will our game with you go ahead this Sunday, you think?

I hope so, yesterday was a good day and a double header over against Loughgiel would of been perfect but sadly the game was called off.

What sort of match was it between yourselves and Cmills? seemed tight enough from the score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 24, 2017, 02:55:49 PM
Its great to see Cloughmills competing in Division 1. They have come on massively in the past 20 years. Whilst they will struggle against Div 1 teams the whole club deserves great credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on April 24, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2017, 08:47:14 AM
all cancelled due to the CR cup matches being on.

Our reserves beat Loughgiel for once, makes a change with a bit of structure there in the reserves this time. Last year i think we only played 4/5 games which is no use at all.

One good thing to come out of sat was that i could laugh at that Carlow radio commentators as we beat them. Christ they were hard to listen to for the duration to.


We'd CR games on as well and ended up with lads playing both days!! I'd say we'd have gotten a short shift from Saffron vision if we'd look to cancel because of it.

Will our game with you go ahead this Sunday, you think?

I hope so, yesterday was a good day and a double header over against Loughgiel would of been perfect but sadly the game was called off.

What sort of match was it between yourselves and Cmills? seemed tight enough from the score

Bit of a strong breeze blowing with both teams deploying a sweeper which IMO always keeps the scoring down.
Cmills are strong enough up the middle and we'd more joy when we kept the ball moving wide but we're young and light and lost too many 50/50 balls, some due to over passing and poor passing. First run out for some this year and a couple noticeably jaded from their exertions the previous day with Down.
We're going to struggle this year, I think no one in the club is under any illusions about that but as long as the young lads learn and learn fast how to compete then we can build from there.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Antrim Vs Down fixed for Cushendall at 2pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on April 25, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Antrim Vs Down fixed for Cushendall at 2pm on Saturday.

McManus getting married on Saturday? Will he play............
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Usain on April 25, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Antrim Vs Down fixed for Cushendall at 2pm on Saturday.

McManus getting married on Saturday? Will he play............

Be handy if the wedding was in Cdall! Think his Mrs to be is a dunloy lady.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 25, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
If we cant beat Down without McManus, we shouldn't bother with the rest of the CR.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 25, 2017, 10:43:45 AM
If we cant beat Down without McManus, we shouldn't bother with the rest of the CR.

True...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 25, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Usain on April 25, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Antrim Vs Down fixed for Cushendall at 2pm on Saturday.

McManus getting married on Saturday? Will he play............

Be handy if the wedding was in Cdall! Think his Mrs to be is a dunloy lady.

Aye she is, joint captain of our senior camogs as well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 26, 2017, 08:19:29 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 25, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: Usain on April 25, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 24, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Antrim Vs Down fixed for Cushendall at 2pm on Saturday.

McManus getting married on Saturday? Will he play............

Be handy if the wedding was in Cdall! Think his Mrs to be is a dunloy lady.

Aye she is, joint captain of our senior camogs as well.

Pity our main pitch is still closed, could have had the match in Dunloy

Schedule

Get married
Jump over the fence
Play match
Go get photos
Evening function

What's the problem 😀
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2017, 09:31:09 AM
exactly, it would of been win win for everyone!

Up to clubrooms after match for beers to celebrate then onwards to the function and bring everyone who was at the match with you! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Larnegaa on April 27, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
Anyone know the results of Countess of Antrim semi's last night?  Games any good?
Apparently a controversial draw in Ruairis v Oisins match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on April 27, 2017, 02:10:20 PM
What happened.  Any date for replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on April 27, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
Other than extra time nothing to report from my view of it.
The ref was main talking point by both clubs!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2017, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Hand up on April 27, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
Other than extra time nothing to report from my view of it.
The ref was main talking point by both clubs!!

Oh! Tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
Seem to remember the same tie was tasty the last few years. No love lost at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on April 27, 2017, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
Seem to remember the same tie was tasty the last few years. No love lost at all.

Hardly surprising with less than a mile of coast road separating the two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: ned on April 27, 2017, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
Seem to remember the same tie was tasty the last few years. No love lost at all.

Hardly surprising with less than a mile of coast road separating the two.

Glenarriffe, C'Dal & C'Dun all so close to each other, great derbies!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on April 28, 2017, 08:23:43 AM
It was Cushendall Reserves v Glenariffe in the Countess of Antrim Cup

Apart from the awful hurling there was nothing to report.

Ref was that bad it was laughable -  for both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2017, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: Megaman on April 28, 2017, 08:23:43 AM
It was Cushendall Reserves v Glenariffe in the Countess of Antrim Cup

Apart from the awful hurling there was nothing to report.

Ref was that bad it was laughable -  for both teams

Who was the ref?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: ned on April 27, 2017, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
Seem to remember the same tie was tasty the last few years. No love lost at all.

Hardly surprising with less than a mile of coast road separating the two.

Glenarriffe, C'Dal & C'Dun all so close to each other, great derbies!

Been a while since there was any games between these three teams of any merit whatsoever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 28, 2017, 10:06:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 28, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: ned on April 27, 2017, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 27, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
Seem to remember the same tie was tasty the last few years. No love lost at all.

Hardly surprising with less than a mile of coast road separating the two.

Glenarriffe, C'Dal & C'Dun all so close to each other, great derbies!

Been a while since there was any games between these three teams of any merit whatsoever

I'd say if you were talking to any player from the 3 clubs they'd want to any game involving the other 2 clubs. Always merit in them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 28, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
Important to say that the Countess of Antrim cup has been a successful competition this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 28, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
Important to say that the Countess of Antrim cup has been a successful competition this year.

Unlike that other competition you complained about  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 29, 2017, 07:28:04 PM
Yes thats right. Theres different circumstances, hence why I've a different opinion.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 07:49:39 PM
Good win for Rossa over Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on April 30, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 07:49:39 PM
Good win for Rossa over Cushendall

With the wedding/Christy Ring yesterday is it really a big win?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 30, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 07:49:39 PM
Good win for Rossa over Cushendall

With the wedding/Christy Ring yesterday is it really a big win?

One player??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 30, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 30, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 07:49:39 PM
Good win for Rossa over Cushendall

With the wedding/Christy Ring yesterday is it really a big win?

One player??

I would say most of the team wouldn't have been legally fit to drive themselves to the match would have been more of a problem
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on April 30, 2017, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on April 30, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2017, 07:49:39 PM
Good win for Rossa over Cushendall

With the wedding/Christy Ring yesterday is it really a big win?

One player??

I would say most of the team wouldn't have been legally fit to drive themselves to the match would have been more of a problem

Are we using alcohol as an excuse?? Lol was very rarely legal most Sundays for matches !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 02, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
christ the whole team was out all day before that at a wedding, i would say they could of been anywhere else other than that match.

It was an expected result and one that didn't raise many eyebrows i would say.

Our game with Ballygalget was decent enough. we were missing Woody, Kevin McKeague & shorty along with all of the U21 hurlers who sat the reserve and senior game out only to be told on monday during the day that Glenariffe wouldnt be fielding. So it was a complete waste of time for all these young lads.

Add to that they had a minor football match Sunday afternoon and their management left a few of them out to keep them fresh for Monday night.

Good entertaining game with ourselves and Ballygalget tho the wind did hamper the game to a degree. Thought that we looked comfortable though Ballygalget did stick at it and made it a tough game towards the end of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 09:41:56 AM
This happened Glenariffe at minor (last year was it??). When you've a small panel ... all you need is to be let down by 2 or 3 last minute and you're scoobed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 02, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
Glenarriffe have 5/6 Glenravel lads playing for them at minor & Un21.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 09:41:56 AM
This happened Glenariffe at minor (last year was it??). When you've a small panel ... all you need is to be let down by 2 or 3 last minute and you're scoobed.

Better still they (Glenariffe) didnt inform the CCC and the ref , made the journey to Dunloy only to be told that Glenarriffe contacted them at 5pm with various reasons as to not show up, did they not know on Sunday?

These things happen, small panels as such, they dispatched us handy enough last time out so you'd assume they'd be up for it, Rossa beat by the johnnies was a shock, Dunloy will be strong favs now I'd say backboned by the 2 winning minor teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 02, 2017, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 09:41:56 AM
This happened Glenariffe at minor (last year was it??). When you've a small panel ... all you need is to be let down by 2 or 3 last minute and you're scoobed.

Better still they (Glenariffe) didnt inform the CCC and the ref , made the journey to Dunloy only to be told that Glenarriffe contacted them at 5pm with various reasons as to not show up, did they not know on Sunday?

These things happen, small panels as such, they dispatched us handy enough last time out so you'd assume they'd be up for it, Rossa beat by the johnnies was a shock, Dunloy will be strong favs now I'd say backboned by the 2 winning minor teams

Horrible thing to happen to any refs or teams. Dunloy ain't on the doorstep either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 02, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
yep, as Skull said happened in Minor C'ship last year and now U21 this year.

Teams who do this in C'ship should be punished.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 02, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 02, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
christ the whole team was out all day before that at a wedding, i would say they could of been anywhere else other than that match.

It was an expected result and one that didn't raise many eyebrows i would say.

Our game with Ballygalget was decent enough. we were missing Woody, Kevin McKeague & shorty along with all of the U21 hurlers who sat the reserve and senior game out only to be told on monday during the day that Glenariffe wouldnt be fielding. So it was a complete waste of time for all these young lads.

Add to that they had a minor football match Sunday afternoon and their management left a few of them out to keep them fresh for Monday night.

Good entertaining game with ourselves and Ballygalget tho the wind did hamper the game to a degree. Thought that we looked comfortable though Ballygalget did stick at it and made it a tough game towards the end of it.

We're missing a few ourselves and a few out the previous day with Down hurlers, but a young enough team of our own finding out where they need to get to in the coming months so we're not overly despondent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on May 02, 2017, 11:41:03 AM
Anyone know why sarsfields have not played any league matches yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 02, 2017, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 02, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 02, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
christ the whole team was out all day before that at a wedding, i would say they could of been anywhere else other than that match.

It was an expected result and one that didn't raise many eyebrows i would say.

Our game with Ballygalget was decent enough. we were missing Woody, Kevin McKeague & shorty along with all of the U21 hurlers who sat the reserve and senior game out only to be told on monday during the day that Glenariffe wouldnt be fielding. So it was a complete waste of time for all these young lads.

Add to that they had a minor football match Sunday afternoon and their management left a few of them out to keep them fresh for Monday night.

Good entertaining game with ourselves and Ballygalget tho the wind did hamper the game to a degree. Thought that we looked comfortable though Ballygalget did stick at it and made it a tough game towards the end of it.

We're missing a few ourselves and a few out the previous day with Down hurlers, but a young enough team of our own finding out where they need to get to in the coming months so we're not overly despondent.

Yeah it looked a young enough team that you had out. some handy hurlers as well. who was the no 12, he wore a read helmet. he seemed to get on the ball alot in the first half and was causing us a fair few problems.

As you say it doesnt help that so many were playing for Down the day before.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: Megaman on May 02, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
yep, as Skull said happened in Minor C'ship last year and now U21 this year.

Teams who do this in C'ship should be punished.

I'm sure they'll get the standard fine for failing to field, but I'd have a bit of sympathy for clubs who are trying their level best to get a team on the field and fail to do so due to inconsiderate players letting their team mates down at the last minute (I'm assuming that's what happened). The fall out from that is tough enough to deal without getting hammered any heavier punishment wise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2017, 12:21:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: Megaman on May 02, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
yep, as Skull said happened in Minor C'ship last year and now U21 this year.

Teams who do this in C'ship should be punished.

I'm sure they'll get the standard fine for failing to field, but I'd have a bit of sympathy for clubs who are trying their level best to get a team on the field and fail to do so due to inconsiderate players letting their team mates down at the last minute (I'm assuming that's what happened). The fall out from that is tough enough to deal without getting hammered any heavier punishment wise.

They fielded against us last week, they have minors also i presume? and have also a senior team with a mix of players that would be minor and up that played at the weekend, could be injuries players away and the bank holidays! £300 quid fine?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 02, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2017, 12:21:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: Megaman on May 02, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
yep, as Skull said happened in Minor C'ship last year and now U21 this year.

Teams who do this in C'ship should be punished.

I'm sure they'll get the standard fine for failing to field, but I'd have a bit of sympathy for clubs who are trying their level best to get a team on the field and fail to do so due to inconsiderate players letting their team mates down at the last minute (I'm assuming that's what happened). The fall out from that is tough enough to deal without getting hammered any heavier punishment wise.

They fielded against us last week, they have minors also i presume? and have also a senior team with a mix of players that would be minor and up that played at the weekend, could be injuries players away and the bank holidays! £300 quid fine?

That IMO is not a reason for not fielding, these dates have been in the calendar and if that was the case I would be surprised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 02, 2017, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on May 02, 2017, 11:41:03 AM
Anyone know why sarsfields have not played any league matches yet?

County called game off last week due to County players and this weekend game been refixed, had a club fundraising weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2017, 12:21:40 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 02, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: Megaman on May 02, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
yep, as Skull said happened in Minor C'ship last year and now U21 this year.

Teams who do this in C'ship should be punished.

I'm sure they'll get the standard fine for failing to field, but I'd have a bit of sympathy for clubs who are trying their level best to get a team on the field and fail to do so due to inconsiderate players letting their team mates down at the last minute (I'm assuming that's what happened). The fall out from that is tough enough to deal without getting hammered any heavier punishment wise.

They fielded against us last week, they have minors also i presume? and have also a senior team with a mix of players that would be minor and up that played at the weekend, could be injuries players away and the bank holidays! £300 quid fine?

Injuries and players across the water was what I was told for not fielding, I can remember us having an u-21 team maybe twice in the last 25 years so we would be doing well to get a team gathered up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2017, 08:51:59 AM
makes no sense as they fielded in the first round and then not in the next game.

Im sure the management are disappointed in not being able to field. I do have sympathy for the club because if you have a small panel and a few let you down your in bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on May 03, 2017, 10:16:00 AM
I personally think the U21 hurling cship should be scrapped unless it gets a meaningful place in the fixtures calendar with more than the one game championship knockout scenario (for most clubs). I heard about one team who didn't train once before getting dumped out in first round. You have to ask yourself what is the point in having a single competition for that age group were you typically only get one game?

Similar format to countess of antrim this year would be a big improvement. Two groups. Play each other once. Top two for semis. Gives the lads at that age at least 4/5 games. If that can't be accommodated. Get rid of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 03, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
its not a bad idea to do that Usain as theres not many games for lads at that age. I played my 3 years at U21 and was lucky enough to get 11 games in total - 3 county finals - from my time but others will have only got 1 game a year from their time in it.

Fitting it into the calendar is tough with the Minor season on top of reserve hurling for the players but im sure the ones not in minor would welcome the extra games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 05, 2017, 08:57:48 AM
Not sure they would DR

Weighing everything up I think the standard knockout format works best for the majority.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 05, 2017, 09:06:00 AM
I think it should be expanded or scrapped.

At present i dont think there are many teams who put an awful lot of emphasis on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2017, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 05, 2017, 09:06:00 AM
I think it should be expanded or scrapped.

At present i dont think there are many teams who put an awful lot of emphasis on it.

As has been the recent trend, it is a tricky age group to manage with university various other reasons. However the teams who feel they have a realistic chance of winning put the effort into it. Those who feel they don't /wont waste time and effort on it and just fulfil the fixture in most cases.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 06, 2017, 06:15:03 PM
Good comeback from Dunloy. 7 points down and finishing all level (20 each).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 08, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
i thought it was a very flat game depsite the score. A good come back to get the draw but it was a game we didnt look like getting any sort of result until the last 5 mins. The introduction of two younger lads from the U21's made the difference and we got a draw some how
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 08, 2017, 11:27:06 AM
How come there was so few games played this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on May 08, 2017, 11:44:37 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 08, 2017, 11:27:06 AM
How come there was so few games played this weekend?

Yesterday was to be kept free of Club fixtures in all counties to facilitate La na gClubanna - obviously some (like SW board) took the chance to slot in divisional games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 08, 2017, 02:33:04 PM

Antrim home to Down

Carlow home to Wicklow

Glad to avoid Carlow again in the semi's for christy ring

If we get past down and Carlow past Wicklow then I think our players are better suited to croke park

More nippy and fitter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2017, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 08, 2017, 02:33:04 PM

Antrim home to Down

Carlow home to Wicklow

Glad to avoid Carlow again in the semi's for christy ring

If we get past down and Carlow past Wicklow then I think our players are better suited to croke park

More nippy and fitter

What date is the final should we beat Down?  (though they could put a spanner in the works)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2017, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2017, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 08, 2017, 02:33:04 PM

Antrim home to Down

Carlow home to Wicklow

Glad to avoid Carlow again in the semi's for christy ring

If we get past down and Carlow past Wicklow then I think our players are better suited to croke park

More nippy and fitter

What date is the final should we beat Down?  (though they could put a spanner in the works)

Saturday June 10th.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 08, 2017, 06:03:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 08, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
i thought it was a very flat game depsite the score. A good come back to get the draw but it was a game we didnt look like getting any sort of result until the last 5 mins. The introduction of two younger lads from the U21's made the difference and we got a draw some how

Nigel Elliot is looking sharp. I was impressed with him. Equalising goal from young Molloy was a beaut. Game had no intensity. Was like a friendly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 09, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
Seems to have been a very poor c'ship so far.  Not to many games have been close.

Both Finalists have only had two games and apart from Dunloy v C'Dall they have been walk-overs

Hopefully to Final will be a good one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 09, 2017, 09:02:15 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 09, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
Seems to have been a very poor c'ship so far.  Not to many games have been close.

Both Finalists have only had two games and apart from Dunloy v C'Dall they have been walk-overs

Hopefully to Final will be a good one

I say the final will be tight enough
It's dunloy v LG after all
Dunloy has good forwards but I was impressed with LG young no6 I think he is Mc Mullan at senior match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 09, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
i would assume its Cathal McMullan at centre half. He played there on sat in the senior match.

Our match last night was very one way for the duration of the game. 2-19 is good scoring but it could of been more but for some wayward shooting. I cant be critical as the lads played really well and fully deserved the win.

Dont understand the short game st johns insisted on playing all night. against a poor team im sure it looks great but they were bound to catch on early doors it wouldn't work against Dunloy as the defence was so strong. Some nice hurlers and have plenty of confidence on the ball but all seemed to pass the ball on and not want to just take a point when it presented itself whereas our boys fired them over when they had the chance.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 14, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Took in the game in Cushendall today. McManus tore Loughiel to bits in the first half, destroyed Odhran McFadden at full back. Ryan McCambridge did well at 11 for C'Dall also. The Loughiel centre half back was very good also, I think they were missing 5/6 starters with James McNaughton on the bench. Also, thought the ref had a superb game. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
Big result, good early marker set down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2017, 07:33:59 AM
Was james mcnaughton on the starting 15 who won championship last year?

Was graffin back playing? [edit] just saw he was number 5.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 15, 2017, 07:41:16 AM
Think James McNaughton is carrying an injury?

Two decent wins for us up in Ballycastle. Reserves played well against a weak Ballycastle second string. The senior game was a lot tighter but I think we deserved the points overall after a good push in the last 10 finishing 4 points ahead in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 15, 2017, 09:55:00 AM
Really good two points for us up on the Shaws Road against Rossa, the types of games we need to win if we want to stay up and I know one our management had targeted and in fairness our committee had asked them to reverse the fixture (It was originally set for our place) to allow the corresponding fixture in July to be part of our tournament week.

Away to the bodies the day after the CR semi-final will be a tightener, but sure what else would you be at!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
Big result, good early marker set down

Yip, but Cushendall looked at full strength while the shams were missing 6/7.
I'd say Johnny will be the happier of the 2 managers. What club is Colin Murray who was the ref from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 15, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
Big result, good early marker set down

Yip, but Cushendall looked at full strength while the shams were missing 6/7.
I'd say Johnny will be the happier of the 2 managers. What club is Colin Murray who was the ref from?

That might be the lad who is from Ballela but referees for us in the Antrim leagues but I'd be surprised he got a game like that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2017, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 15, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
Big result, good early marker set down

Yip, but Cushendall looked at full strength while the shams were missing 6/7.
I'd say Johnny will be the happier of the 2 managers. What club is Colin Murray who was the ref from?

That might be the lad who is from Ballela but referees for us in the Antrim leagues but I'd be surprised he got a game like that!

In fairness there wasn't a dirty stroke in the game but when he did give a decision he explained it and kept up with play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mourne man on May 15, 2017, 01:39:27 PM
What's the chances of league matches being pulled on Wednesday night for all those teams with players involved with antrim in the Christy ring ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 15, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Mourne man on May 15, 2017, 01:39:27 PM
What's the chances of league matches being pulled on Wednesday night for all those teams with players involved in the Christy ring ?

Like who?

If you're a Down man as your name suggests then the club/player/county management would need to lift the phone to Sean O'g who in turn would need to request the Antrim secretary (Frankie Quinn) to get the game refixed if its justifiable.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 16, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
I have to say I was expecting more messages from Loughgiel fellas saying Cushendall have to be the hot favorites for the championship now   ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 16, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
I have to say I was expecting more messages from Loughgiel fellas saying Cushendall have to be the hot favorites for the championship now   ;D ;D

All the LG posters have disappeared of here of late
Don't know what the story is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 16, 2017, 12:00:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

Is that not a good thing  ;D

MR is still here to keep us entertained though ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.

Who is taking Glenariff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.

Who is taking Glenariff

Humpy and some other man from Ballycastle. That's the story I heard at the wknd there anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.

I work with lads from Glenravel and they have told me that he coached their Un10/12s a few years ago, his wife teaches in a primary school up there and that is maybe a link.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2017, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.

I work with lads from Glenravel and they have told me that he coached their Un10/12s a few years ago, his wife teaches in a primary school up there and that is maybe a link.

He was down with Keady last AFAIK, far enough away to get on with his coaching while letting the dust settle around the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 02:37:11 PM
PJ involved with Loughgiel U16 and 18s this year as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 16, 2017, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 16, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 16, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 16, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 16, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
They appear to have been exiled  ;)

He vanished along with PJ
Self imposed exile  since last years county saga
No one was gonna say a word to him - honest 😃

There's still the club stuff to argue over sure

Minder is quiet to, kinda miss them tbh

PJ can be seen up around Glenravel 3/4 nights a week.

Smart move, if he missed the team bus he could walk home from there

Does PJ have any ties to the Glenravel club or is this move motivated by the financial side of things? If there's money involved its a shame that clubs in Div 3 are having to open their pockets in this way.

Glenariffe are paying big bucks to their new management team I've heard. Its the way the club game is going but that doesn't make it right IMO.

Who is taking Glenariff

Humpy and some other man from Ballycastle. That's the story I heard at the wknd there anyway.
And Jenkins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2017, 11:38:57 PM
Mega bucks ?! Thats a good one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 16, 2017, 11:38:57 PM
Mega bucks ?! Thats a good one

Your still alive then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..

That is the pity of it, but when the managers are trying to create a certain type of environment with commitment etc it was the only outcome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..

That is the pity of it, but when the managers are trying to create a certain type of environment with commitment etc it was the only outcome.

Aye unless you tow the line its no good..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..

That is the pity of it, but when the managers are trying to create a certain type of environment with commitment etc it was the only outcome.

Aye unless you tow the line its no good..

And that everyone else is treated the same its a great idea... I mean what committed county player would ave their wedding around Championship?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..

That is the pity of it, but when the managers are trying to create a certain type of environment with commitment etc it was the only outcome.

Aye unless you tow the line its no good..

And that everyone else is treated the same its a great idea... I mean what committed county player would ave their wedding around Championship?  ;)

Bit of a difference going for pints and getting married!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 19, 2017, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

Both Sarsfields lads on the panel, trained last night with county.

Not sure what the issue is PJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2017, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Beer gardens are so hard to resist at this time of the year  ;)

I was always very impressed by the both of the tbh..

That is the pity of it, but when the managers are trying to create a certain type of environment with commitment etc it was the only outcome.

Aye unless you tow the line its no good..

And that everyone else is treated the same its a great idea... I mean what committed county player would ave their wedding around Championship?  ;)

Bit of a difference going for pints and getting married!

I'm taking the piss, behave
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 19, 2017, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Saw the Antrim team for Saturday there... No Sarsfields lads on the panel
I see. What happened there?

Both Sarsfields lads on the panel, trained last night with county.

Not sure what the issue is PJ?

No issues here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 19, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
Anyone lobbing mini grenades about the place need to leave team selection to the men in charge.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 19, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
Anyone lobbing mini grenades about the place need to leave team selection to the men in charge.

Yip, they've got us this far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on May 19, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
Very interesting to be playing Neal at 10. Probably deployed as a sweeper is the only reason I see for this. I can't understand why they continue to try him out as a forward. If there's no natural position for him in defence he needs to sit on the bench IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
Quote from: Usain on May 19, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
Very interesting to be playing Neal at 10. Probably deployed as a sweeper is the only reason I see for this. I can't understand why they continue to try him out as a forward. If there's no natural position for him in defence he needs to sit on the bench IMO.

Maybe swap him and McFadden.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 19, 2017, 02:22:52 PM
1 Chris O'Connell
2 Stephen Rooney 3 John Dillon 4 Simon Mc Crory (Capt.)
5 Ciaran Johnson 6 Paddy Burke 7 Odhran McFadden
8 Conor McKinley   9 Paddy Mc Gill
10 Neal Mc Auley 11 Conor McCann 12 Eoghan Campbell
13 Conor Johnston  14 Neil Mc Manus 15 Ciaran Clarke

16 (GK) Ryan Elliott
17 Ruairi Diamond
18 Conor Carson
19 James Mc Naughton
20 Joe Maskey
21 Deaglan Murphy
22 Maoi Connolly
23 Paul Shiels
24 Christy Mc Naughton

For those haven't had a chance to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2017, 11:45:43 PM
Well done to the county squad on reaching the christy ring final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 21, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Carlow are bound to be sick of the sight of us by now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 21, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
Brilliant performance yesterday. It's great to see team spirit flowing through the whole team. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 21, 2017, 11:21:53 AM
Yeah everyone on the panel seems to be pulling for each other. Credit to all involved.
Carlow will be thirsty for revenge. We'll need to be ready to meet it head on and push on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2017, 07:53:48 AM
decent game on sunday between ourselves and cushendall. woody got injured and i seen a pic of his ankle swollen up and black and purple. doesnt look good for him for a few weeks.

Good high scoring game between the sides and well worth the entry fee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 23, 2017, 08:17:55 AM
The two team chat the referee called in the reserve game was "interesting" to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2017, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 23, 2017, 08:17:55 AM
The two team chat the referee called in the reserve game was "interesting" to

aww god did you see that? that was bizarre to say the least. he told them to stop shouting at each other lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Haha, that was hilarious. Ref for the Senior game wasn't much better, who was he?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Haha, that was hilarious. Ref for the Senior game wasn't much better, who was he?

colin murrary it says on the county page. he wasnt great to be fair either. gave a lot of soft fouls to each side. we got a few daft ones i couldnt understand what they were given for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Haha, that was hilarious. Ref for the Senior game wasn't much better, who was he?

colin murrary it says on the county page. he wasnt great to be fair either. gave a lot of soft fouls to each side. we got a few daft ones i couldnt understand what they were given for.

By all accounts he had a great game last week with Cushendal and Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Haha, that was hilarious. Ref for the Senior game wasn't much better, who was he?

colin murrary it says on the county page. he wasnt great to be fair either. gave a lot of soft fouls to each side. we got a few daft ones i couldnt understand what they were given for.

By all accounts he had a great game last week with Cushendal and Loughgiel

I was there and you're correct, he was very good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
The Ref in the senior game was pretty good
Got more Right than wrong in fairness


The guy in the reserve still needs a bit of tweaking

Calling all the players together to have a group therapy session
I looked like a " where's the love guys" kinda speech
Jesus he's in the wrong trade round a hurling pitch

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
I thought he was going to ask them all to have a group hug together when he did it lol

Im maybe being harsh on Colin, he wasnt bad he just gave a few odd calls. He made a mistake and gave us a foul in the second half and sort of evened it up a few moments later with a very soft foul. He had a decent game to be fair to him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2017, 02:40:09 PM
I thought he was going to ask them all to have a group hug together when he did it lol

Im maybe being harsh on Colin, he wasnt bad he just gave a few odd calls. He made a mistake and gave us a foul in the second half and sort of evened it up a few moments later with a very soft foul. He had a decent game to be fair to him.

Who was the ref in the reserve game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2017, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 23, 2017, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 23, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Haha, that was hilarious. Ref for the Senior game wasn't much better, who was he?

colin murrary it says on the county page. he wasnt great to be fair either. gave a lot of soft fouls to each side. we got a few daft ones i couldnt understand what they were given for.

By all accounts he had a great game last week with Cushendal and Loughgiel

Yep he did, but had a really poor game on Sunday, some of the decisions for both sides where bizarre.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 24, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=270711

No u21 manager so far

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 25, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
any results from last night?

servasport seems to be down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 25, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 25, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
any results from last night?

servasport seems to be down.

Should be an alternative link on the Antrim site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on May 25, 2017, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: ned on May 25, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 25, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
any results from last night?

servasport seems to be down.

Should be an alternative link on the Antrim site.

Up again now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 25, 2017, 09:35:36 AM
Quote from: Mhic Easmuint on May 25, 2017, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: ned on May 25, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 25, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
any results from last night?

servasport seems to be down.

Should be an alternative link on the Antrim site.

Up again now!
Was just about to post the results!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2017, 11:44:02 AM
up at Rossa last night to watch the seniors. a good physical game, not a bad stroke, only tough hurling played. pitch was in perfect condition as well for the game.

A changed team from Sundays draw with Cushendall minus the U21 players starting the game. Also no shorty or woody on the pitch so it was a good win away from home. leaves us with 3 wins and 2 draws from the 5 league games played.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on May 26, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
Our lads lost to Ballycran by a point on Wednesday night. Crans got the goals which told the tale in the end although we'd a few chances at the end to level it in a heavy fog it has to be said.
IMO, a poor enough performance by our lads who didn't seem to get going throughout and that would be a concern. Crans probably got their matchups right and relied on the big lad on the edge of the square to work the goal opportunities which they took.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2017, 09:09:29 PM
Big win for dunloy in the u21s tonight. I think they will be challengers for the county title very soon on the back of this team as they seem to have a lot of talent.

Wonder how the ref got on :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 29, 2017, 11:59:58 PM
Great win for our lads tonight. Delighted especially for the boys who ploughed on through hammerings in Div2 juvenile and kept working at their game. No doubt bolstered by recent minor teams but those boys who stayed the course are what made it for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 30, 2017, 08:52:17 AM
was a joy to watch them lads last night. 16 points in the first half was the nail in the coffin for Lgiel and left them a massive hill to climb for the second half hour. was impressed with the scoring ability from all the forwards. 

as skull says a lot of those lads were playing Div 2 at under age and have plugged away as a team and individuals to improve themselves to be playing at this standard. the whole team is U21 again which is great to see.

shout out to the ref who had a good game for the hour. very little to call and to be fair both teams played hurling and there wasnt a dirty stroke between the sides.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on May 30, 2017, 09:36:03 AM
Congrats to Dunloy. Some serious talent coming through.

I think our lads are better than what they showed last night but no question the best team won.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 30, 2017, 11:39:32 AM
thesaffrongael.com

New webpage set up by Curly covering Antrim club and county games.

Badly needed after the demise of the Antrim Post & The Ballymena Chronicle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 30, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
Great performance from our u21s, over as a contest in first half
Credit to all the coaches who worked with these lads from underage
To now
It would be natural to highlight coby and Molloy but we had 8 different scorers from the first ten points and the defence was solid throughout
They only coughed up about 5 points from play in 60 minutes of hurling
Great bunch of lads of the field to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Well on May 30, 2017, 11:31:29 PM
Is young Molloy any relation of Mal Molloy of past Dunloy glories?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Would Paul & Mal not be brothers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2017, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Would Paul & Mal not be brothers?

Yeah they are brothers so is current senior paniist Kevin, them and the richmonds all grew up  beside each other up at the bridge bar crossroads

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2017, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Would Paul & Mal not be brothers?

Yeah they are brothers so is current senior paniist Kevin, them and the richmonds all grew up  beside each other up at the bridge bar crossroads

So then he is a nephew of Mal Molloy...

How many county medals at that cross roads now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 31, 2017, 03:34:13 PM
I have to say Curly's site will be a great resource if he can keep the content flowing the way he's started, he's got highlights of the u21 final up and all.

The only suggestion I'd make to him is to put the more recent articles at the top on the left than at the bottom.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2017, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2017, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Would Paul & Mal not be brothers?

Yeah they are brothers so is current senior paniist Kevin, them and the richmonds all grew up  beside each other up at the bridge bar crossroads

So then he is a nephew of Mal Molloy...

How many county medals at that cross roads now!

Yeah mal's nephew

Don't know how many medals when you count them all a few
Imm older than all of them and you always slowed down there because they where always on the road(when they where kids) hitting balls against the road side wall even in the rain
Hurls always in the hands
PlayStation has s lot to answer for these days I tell you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 31, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
All games off tonight except us v Ballygalget? We are going ahead without county players. Why didn't anyone else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 31, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 31, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
All games off tonight except us v Ballygalget? We are going ahead without county players. Why didn't anyone else?

We are playing cloughmills at home I didn't hear it was off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Paul's a good lad, was involved in juvenile county teams with me growing up... he's lad is very strong under the high ball, took a great score late on too... absolute gents on the field with great mentors around them which helps.... new Dunloy revolution around the corner of this team can stick together and quit the football  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Paul's a good lad, was involved in juvenile county teams with me growing up... he's lad is very strong under the high ball, took a great score late on too... absolute gents on the field with great mentors around them which helps.... new Dunloy revolution around the corner of this team can stick together and quit the football  :o

Most of them lads won a minor football championship in the last 12 months so the future is bright on that front also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Paul's a good lad, was involved in juvenile county teams with me growing up... he's lad is very strong under the high ball, took a great score late on too... absolute gents on the field with great mentors around them which helps.... new Dunloy revolution around the corner of this team can stick together and quit the football  :o

Most of them lads won a minor football championship in the last 12 months so the future is bright on that front also!

I know that, but doing both is tough, S'Neil have been done exception though so not impossible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 31, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on May 31, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
No. Hes Pauls son. Paul played 7 or 8 years at senior, himself having a great hand.

Paul's a good lad, was involved in juvenile county teams with me growing up... he's lad is very strong under the high ball, took a great score late on too... absolute gents on the field with great mentors around them which helps.... new Dunloy revolution around the corner of this team can stick together and quit the football  :o

Most of them lads won a minor football championship in the last 12 months so the future is bright on that front also!

I know that, but doing both is tough, S'Neil have been done exception though so not impossible

Very tough at that kinda level.. be good to see how Dunloy cope.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 01, 2017, 07:34:05 AM
Serious talent in that Dunloy u-21side but I'm sure the Dunloy lads would want a bit less hype. Doing it at senior is a big step up. The entire u-21 championship was poor fair. The only close game was Dunloy and ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on June 01, 2017, 08:33:45 AM
No one getting too carried away in Dunloy JJ. Just happy to have won after 9 years and that's after hardly winning an U21 match in that time. Cushendall game could've went either way no doubt so not much between those team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 06, 2017, 09:12:14 AM
The winners of Christy Ring final play Laois in the qualifiers at a neutral venue.

Obviously Antrim have a lot to worry about before then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 06, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
Are the club hurling fixtures really going to go ahead this Sunday? I thought they would have been cancelled due to CR final. Strange decision by CB.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2017, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Usain on June 06, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
Are the club hurling fixtures really going to go ahead this Sunday? I thought they would have been cancelled due to CR final. Strange decision by CB.

Christy ring on the Sat I thought?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 06, 2017, 12:28:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2017, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Usain on June 06, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
Are the club hurling fixtures really going to go ahead this Sunday? I thought they would have been cancelled due to CR final. Strange decision by CB.

Christy ring on the Sat I thought?

Yes I know its on Saturday but I'm thinking of the club players/supporters who have to travel to Dublin and back on Saturday before heading off again on Sunday to play league games.

Bcastle away to Ballygalget
Rossa away to Lgiel
St Galls away to Glenariffe
St Johns away to Carey.

That extra travelling is bound to put people/club players off from going to Dublin on Saturday. I know the die hards will go anyway but that's not the audience we need to entice out of the house.

And what happens if we win the CR. Surely a night of celebration is in order? Not for our club players who have to play on Sunday. Just my point of view but everything should be done to get a big crowd out for the CR in Dublin on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?

Tg4 have live coverage of all 3 finals at the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?

Tg4 have live coverage of all 3 finals at the weekend.
.

I thought it would of been but I was looking on the TV guide and i don't see it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 06, 2017, 09:25:45 PM
TG4 are showing the three matches on their website, not on TV
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 06, 2017, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?

Tg4 have live coverage of all 3 finals at the weekend.

Only online this time rather than on tv. Usually they show either all 3 on tv or the Lory Meagher one online and then the Nicky Rackard & Christy Ring on tv. But none this year. Very strange & disappointing...tg4 are usually great for coverage of gaa.

I don't mind as I'll be in Croke Park but I have an old uncle down the backarse of Carlow where the broadband is brutal, there's no way he will be able to stream tg4.ie.

I sent them an e-mail asking why they're not showing it on tv this year. Will report back if I get an answer!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 07, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
Quote from: stevecw on June 06, 2017, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?

Tg4 have live coverage of all 3 finals at the weekend.

Only online this time rather than on tv. Usually they show either all 3 on tv or the Lory Meagher one online and then the Nicky Rackard & Christy Ring on tv. But none this year. Very strange & disappointing...tg4 are usually great for coverage of gaa.

I don't mind as I'll be in Croke Park but I have an old uncle down the backarse of Carlow where the broadband is brutal, there's no way he will be able to stream tg4.ie.

I sent them an e-mail asking why they're not showing it on tv this year. Will report back if I get an answer!

Good man, they literally have a day of cartoons on instead, surely the finals would get a better audience than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 07, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
its ok the GAA have Kilkenny on tv so they dont give two fucks about the counties outside of the top tier.

"Ah here lads sure we allowed you into Croker for the day so be grateful for that"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 08, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
Does anyone remember the outcome for the hurling leagues this year regarding promotion/relegation. Is it one up, one down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: Usain on June 08, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
Does anyone remember the outcome for the hurling leagues this year regarding promotion/relegation. Is it one up, one down?

It was two up two down between Div1 and Div1b last year, I don't think that'll change as the Ports look favourites for the top spot, Johnnies looking like second...   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 08, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: Usain on June 08, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
Does anyone remember the outcome for the hurling leagues this year regarding promotion/relegation. Is it one up, one down?

It was two up two down between Div1 and Div1b last year, I don't think that'll change as the Ports look favourites for the top spot, Johnnies looking like second...   ;)

You read my mind JC!!

Would like to have this all set in stone now to prevent any board room tussles later on. Its really important as division 2 is so tight. Its critical for teams to know whether 1 will be relegated or 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 08, 2017, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 07, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
Quote from: stevecw on June 06, 2017, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 06, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 06, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Am I being unrealistically hopeful thinking the CR final might be on TV?

Tg4 have live coverage of all 3 finals at the weekend.

Only online this time rather than on tv. Usually they show either all 3 on tv or the Lory Meagher one online and then the Nicky Rackard & Christy Ring on tv. But none this year. Very strange & disappointing...tg4 are usually great for coverage of gaa.

I don't mind as I'll be in Croke Park but I have an old uncle down the backarse of Carlow where the broadband is brutal, there's no way he will be able to stream tg4.ie.

I sent them an e-mail asking why they're not showing it on tv this year. Will report back if I get an answer!

Good man, they literally have a day of cartoons on instead, surely the finals would get a better audience than that.

2 days later and they still haven't replied. I see it's something to do with it clashing with the Tipp/Cork game which is on RTE at the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 09, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Graffin starting ......kick in the teeth for someone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 09, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 09, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Graffin starting ......kick in the teeth for someone

looks like mattie donnelly and paddy mcgill for graffin and shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 09, 2017, 06:23:34 PM
Graffin and Shiels for McFadden and McGill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2017, 12:59:54 PM
Poor form for boys at it since Xmas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2017, 12:59:54 PM
Poor form for boys at it since Xmas.

You're the manager, you've got a club final at Croke Park to win to get the lads back up to Liam McCarthy cup... it's not a difficult choice, Graffin and Shorty have put in more winter training than most of that squad put together, Graffin and Shorty haven't just walked off the street and on to the bus, I'd imagine they've been assessed over the last few weeks on fitness and stick work...

Shit on players who may feel they have earned the right to start, but there is not a manager out there that doesn't want his best 15 available on the pitch..

Many years ago we didn't start 2 players v Loughgiel in county semi final as they'd been in the States hurling away, Loughgiel got a 7 point start on us after 15 minutes, the two lads came on and we drew level five minutes into second half! Beat by 3 in the end but my point is being loyal doesn't always work out, I don't know if we'd have beaten Loughgiel that day but that's the choice of the manager..

It's always easy looking in rather managing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
The management demanded a commitment from the players at the start of the season as it hasn't been good enough in previous years. That has been made very very clear in interviews. So players have been training very hard since November and now 2 weeks before the final they call up a player to the squad who had previously turned down a call up.
That is a massive kick in the balls to a lad who has trained since November.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2017, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on June 10, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
The management demanded a commitment from the players at the start of the season as it hasn't been good enough in previous years. That has been made very very clear in interviews. So players have been training very hard since November and now 2 weeks before the final they call up a player to the squad who had previously turned down a call up.
That is a massive kick in the balls to a lad who has trained since November.

It's crap, and we might win the match without them, but we ain't blessed with quality in depth, best scenario would have been to have them available to bring on, should the tie need experience to see the game out...

No winners here, can see both sides of it though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2017, 06:27:24 PM
Fair fecks to Carlow, they have taken their chances and kept the points ticking over, we've made hard work for all our scores and been caught badly for the goals.... seem to be lacking urgency from the get go...

Thought the wider space of Croke would have suited our small nippier forwards...

Back to drawing board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 10, 2017, 06:55:10 PM
Why we left our full back line 2 on 2 for 70 minutes I'll never understand. Our best player all season (John Dillon) was our full back. Carlow clearly done their homework and know Antrim well enough. Why did our management not leave Rocky in there?

Poor Stephen Rooney had a nightmare though hardly his fault with the space the 2 full forwards had to exploit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on June 11, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Disappointing alright, better prepared team won the day. While I understand both sides of argument about bringing guys in the whole idea of guys buying into commitment at the beginning of the season leans it towards the wrong decision. Maybe easy to sit and preach now game was lost but what is the ask for commitment from the start now worth next year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 11, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
It was a terrible management decision and one that bit them in the arse. Aaron is a top quality player but you have to go with the boys who have given blood, sweat and tears all year. It's really poor sporting ethics.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 08:53:33 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 11, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Disappointing alright, better prepared team won the day. While I understand both sides of argument about bringing guys in the whole idea of guys buying into commitment at the beginning of the season leans it towards the wrong decision. Maybe easy to sit and preach now game was lost but what is the ask for commitment from the start now worth next year?

I'd say we were as prepared as Carlow, the league showed that, but we didn't turn up...the urgency the game plan wasnt evident..

Carlow just wanted it more I thought, willing to work harder for the ball and they kept the scoreboard ticking over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on June 11, 2017, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 08:53:33 PM
Quote from: Hectic on June 11, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Disappointing alright, better prepared team won the day. While I understand both sides of argument about bringing guys in the whole idea of guys buying into commitment at the beginning of the season leans it towards the wrong decision. Maybe easy to sit and preach now game was lost but what is the ask for commitment from the start now worth next year?

I'd say we were as prepared as Carlow, the league showed that, but we didn't turn up...the urgency the game plan wasnt evident..

Carlow just wanted it more I thought, willing to work harder for the ball and they kept the scoreboard ticking over

By better prepared I mean in terms of game plan. Granted there are reasons that a game plan does not come to fruition but they seemed to have our measure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 11, 2017, 10:21:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 10, 2017, 06:55:10 PM
Why we left our full back line 2 on 2 for 70 minutes I'll never understand. Our best player all season (John Dillon) was our full back. Carlow clearly done their homework and know Antrim well enough. Why did our management not leave Rocky in there?

Poor Stephen Rooney had a nightmare though hardly his fault with the space the 2 full forwards had to exploit.

I don't know why you picked rooney out- him and burke were the best of the defenders!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 11, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
Rooney and McCrory struggled due to how we set up. Not having a dig at the players but stating that it's criminal to leave 2 v 2 in your own full back line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 11, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
Rooney and McCrory struggled due to how we set up. Not having a dig at the players but stating that it's criminal to leave 2 v 2 in your own full back line.
You'd be wanting to look at who was on the scorer of 4-1!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 11, 2017, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 11, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
Rooney and McCrory struggled due to how we set up. Not having a dig at the players but stating that it's criminal to leave 2 v 2 in your own full back line.
You'd be wanting to look at who was on the scorer of 4-1!

Can see where you're coming from .....both our wing half backs were put on Doyle and neither could handle him. But again they were able to waltz through time and time again. They'd have had a sixth goal only for a brave save from Chrissy. We were wide open.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
How many players on that Carlow team are from Carlow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2017, 07:17:17 AM
Despite that fella scoring 4-1 i think the number 11 did about as much damage! Just very disappointing as carlow were a lot better. Where all that space came from i dunno but carlow had some very powerful runners and our entire defense just could not keep up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2017, 09:05:42 AM
Poor form to draft in late replacements into the team.
Poor form to then watch it unravel and back fire.
Tactically very naive.

Beat by the better team on the day but we didnt do enough to try and correct the obvious changes that were required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 12, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
A few loyalities got in the way of correct team line-up decisions.

Neal McAuley as a wing half forward. Wong decision. Never struck a ball. Heart got in way of the head with this one.
Aaron Graffin should never have started this game. Yes put him on the bench as a really good defensive sub.

Management have certainly lost a lot of respect after all the talk about commitment.

Defensively we were shocking. No point pin pointing any individuals. As a back 6 we weren't at the races.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2017, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2017, 09:05:42 AM
Poor form to draft in late replacements into the team.
Poor form to then watch it unravel and back fire.
Tactically very naive.

Beat by the better team on the day but we didnt do enough to try and correct the obvious changes that were required.

This
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 12, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Usain on June 12, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
A few loyalities got in the way of correct team line-up decisions.

Neal McAuley as a wing half forward. Wong decision. Never struck a ball. Heart got in way of the head with this one.
Aaron Graffin should never have started this game. Yes put him on the bench as a really good defensive sub.

Management have certainly lost a lot of respect after all the talk about commitment.

Defensively we were shocking. No point pin pointing any individuals. As a back 6 we weren't at the races.

And this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
According to a few Dall lads I was talking to, when Aaron Graffin was asked back into the county squad he texted all the players to enquire if there would be any issues if he was to return. Apparently the players had no issues with the decision.

Carlow dragged our full back line all over the place, their full forward gradually moved out towards the midfield area and Rocky followed him out which really exposed the 2 corner men. Not Rocky's fault but I think we lost this on the sideline.

No tactical decisions or changes were made until Carlow had rattled in 4 goals and we were chasing the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 12, 2017, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
According to a few Dall lads I was talking to, when Aaron Graffin was asked back into the county squad he texted all the players to enquire if there would be any issues if he was to return. Apparently the players had no issues with the decision.

Carlow dragged our full back line all over the place, their full forward gradually moved out towards the midfield area and Rocky followed him out which really exposed the 2 corner men. Not Rocky's fault but I think we lost this on the sideline.

No tactical decisions or changes were made until Carlow had rattled in 4 goals and we were chasing the game.

I havent heard of one person blaming the player in this instance, he has served the county well for ten years so there was no issue there.

Issue was with the decision to bring him in made by management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 12, 2017, 12:03:15 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
According to a few Dall lads I was talking to, when Aaron Graffin was asked back into the county squad he texted all the players to enquire if there would be any issues if he was to return. Apparently the players had no issues with the decision.

Carlow dragged our full back line all over the place, their full forward gradually moved out towards the midfield area and Rocky followed him out which really exposed the 2 corner men. Not Rocky's fault but I think we lost this on the sideline.

No tactical decisions or changes were made until Carlow had rattled in 4 goals and we were chasing the game.

Completely agree with this analysis of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 12, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 12, 2017, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
According to a few Dall lads I was talking to, when Aaron Graffin was asked back into the county squad he texted all the players to enquire if there would be any issues if he was to return. Apparently the players had no issues with the decision.

Carlow dragged our full back line all over the place, their full forward gradually moved out towards the midfield area and Rocky followed him out which really exposed the 2 corner men. Not Rocky's fault but I think we lost this on the sideline.

No tactical decisions or changes were made until Carlow had rattled in 4 goals and we were chasing the game.

I havent heard of one person blaming the player in this instance, he has served the county well for ten years so there was no issue there.

Issue was with the decision to bring him in made by management.

Completely agree. Great player and a great servant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2017, 12:17:25 PM
So where to now? Management to leave?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 12, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
How many players on that Carlow team are from Carlow?

All of them are from Carlow. We don't and never have done a Kildare and brought in outsiders.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 12, 2017, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 12, 2017, 12:17:25 PM
So where to now? Management to leave?

I would hope not. we have a good platform to build on for Div 1b next season and keeping the panel and management together at this point is key. A bit of stability is whats needed and not more change.

despite sats result Antrim hurling is in a far better place than a year ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 02:39:45 PM
If the current management are to remain, which I think they will, then they really do need to get the tactics and set up right.

Why was Simon McCrory playing at corner back when he is a superb No.5. and wasn't utilized there. Other lads played out of position..

Re Aaron Graffin - superb hurler for club and county without doubt.

TBH if Antrim are to be considered as part of the new hurling proposals and placed in the section along with Carlow, Laois etc then management really do need to get things sorted on that front.

I don't think that Antrim are ready to step up to that level yet and would need another year in the Christy Ring where Derry are lying in wait ready to have a crack. With the Sleachtneil lads on board I reckon they'll be a handful next season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Carlow will take Laois in the next round.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on June 12, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 02:39:45 PM
If the current management are to remain, which I think they will, then they really do need to get the tactics and set up right.

Why was Simon McCrory playing at corner back when he is a superb No.5. and wasn't utilized there. Other lads played out of position..

Re Aaron Graffin - superb hurler for club and county without doubt.

TBH if Antrim are to be considered as part of the new hurling proposals and placed in the section along with Carlow, Laois etc then management really do need to get things sorted on that front.

I don't think that Antrim are ready to step up to that level yet and would need another year in the Christy Ring where Derry are lying in wait ready to have a crack. With the Sleachtneil lads on board I reckon they'll be a handful next season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Carlow will take Laois in the next round.

Antrim won't be in the CR if the new hurling championship proposals get the go ahead.

Strange decision by Antrim management to parachute a lad in considering their big thing all winter and spring was dedication to the cause. I'm sure the lads who were usurped weren't at all pleased even if Graffin is a fantastic hurler on his day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 12, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
Thing about it Johnney, the Christy Ring is Antrim's level at present and if they are to play in the CR next season there is absolutely no guarantee they will win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
Antrim have failed to win at 2 times of asking.

They are Christy Ring level at the minute. Derry Versus Antrim next year will be a good game if Collie McGurk gets another year at it.

But no doubt the begrudgers in Derry will work against him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on June 12, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Think Derry could be a couple of years away from consistently challenging Antrim/Carlow etc - but if they keep that squad together, it's there for the taking.  As for the begrudgers, you're dead right.  One look at the Derry thread will show you the sort of wankbags floating about Derry at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 12, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: stevecw on June 12, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
How many players on that Carlow team are from Carlow?

All of them are from Carlow. We don't and never have done a Kildare and brought in outsiders.

Fair play
Have many played under DJ for That successful Carlow IT team
I heard they have been playing some good challenge matches leading up to the final as well
Well done to all involved, no questioning who the better team was
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 12, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: Franko on June 12, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Think Derry could be a couple of years away from consistently challenging Antrim/Carlow etc - but if they keep that squad together, it's there for the taking.  As for the begrudgers, you're dead right.  One look at the Derry thread will show you the sort of wankbags floating about Derry at the minute.

It's terrible some of the shit that's being posted. Makes you realise why nobody likes them lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2017, 07:26:58 PM
Irrespective of saturday management have got everyone pulling together and are doing a good job. We're not a premier league football club and have had enough churn anyway.

There was a big difference in standard of the two games saturday so derry have a bit to go yet but with these proposals i don't think antrim will be in the ring though it is our level at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: stevecw on June 13, 2017, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 12, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: stevecw on June 12, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
How many players on that Carlow team are from Carlow?

All of them are from Carlow. We don't and never have done a Kildare and brought in outsiders.

Fair play
Have many played under DJ for That successful Carlow IT team
I heard they have been playing some good challenge matches leading up to the final as well
Well done to all involved, no questioning who the better team was

Just 2 of the team were part of DJ's IT Carlow side. James Doyle who got 4 of the goals on Saturday and Marty Kavanagh who got the other 1. Playing at that high of a level in Fitzgibbon Cup has brought these lads on a lot.

Thanks, we were obviously by far the better side on Saturday after a very even 1st 20 minutes. But I think some posters on here are being very harsh on Antrim.
After all Antrim only lost 1 of the 4 games v Carlow this year, and got promotion to 1B. That's not a bad season at all. Definitely a much improved side compared to last year and will only get better playing in 1B next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2017, 05:52:47 PM
Quote from: stevecw on June 13, 2017, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 12, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: stevecw on June 12, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2017, 11:09:42 PM
How many players on that Carlow team are from Carlow?

All of them are from Carlow. We don't and never have done a Kildare and brought in outsiders.

Fair play
Have many played under DJ for That successful Carlow IT team
I heard they have been playing some good challenge matches leading up to the final as well
Well done to all involved, no questioning who the better team was

Just 2 of the team were part of DJ's IT Carlow side. James Doyle who got 4 of the goals on Saturday and Marty Kavanagh who got the other 1. Playing at that high of a level in Fitzgibbon Cup has brought these lads on a lot.

Thanks, we were obviously by far the better side on Saturday after a very even 1st 20 minutes. But I think some posters on here are being very harsh on Antrim.
After all Antrim only lost 1 of the 4 games v Carlow this year, and got promotion to 1B. That's not a bad season at all. Definitely a much improved side compared to last year and will only get better playing in 1B next year.

I reckonend Doyle was one of them but couldn't remember
And here is the real crux of the problems in Antrim
Our good underage players are not getting enough game time at that level
We don't even take the u21 competition seriously, not even a manager in place yet
Competitive counties have been training since Christmas
Not all managerial commitment problems , The players are non committal as well
They never showed  up for training for the competition  even when Kevin Ryan was eager to prepare them
We are at this level for a reason
Carlow are making steady progress and getting more competitive at minor and u21
Throw in Fitzgibbon cup and good geography in terms of challange matches and things are looking good
Still apart from dealing with Doyle and kavanagh last Saturday we have other problems
Looked of the pace and the ball to put forwards was bad
We struggled in nearly every position
Thought young Rooney and Clark and to lesser extent Mc Manus where the only players up to standard

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Stevecw antrim fans are a harsh bunch! You guys have really upped your game and fair play to you. Your number 11 kavanagh was unmarkable and doyle's 4 goals speaks for itself. Your number 14 might want to a bit less theatrical though!

Nah i am glad someone else is saying the same about rooney. I thought he did ok. We have a long way to go but in the same way as a big win won't make us world beaters a loss like this doesn't make us doesn't make us the worst in the world.

Hopefully some kind of lessons will be learnt but we'll see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 14, 2017, 09:27:16 AM
i was impressed with Carlow on sat. they were the better team on the day and we could of played them for another hour and still never of got close to them. Fair play to Carlow as, like Antrim, they are a county that is make good progress in terms of their senior county team.

Next years Championship set up will be good and competitive with all those teams all around the same level as each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 19, 2017, 08:37:16 AM
i see the two results there from the reserve and senior match between Ballycastle and Loughgiel. Were ballycastle missing a lot of players or how did that happen? i know in the reserves they have been struggling for nos but i didnt think at senior level they would be taking a beating like that.

Was at our game yday over in Cmills. Was competitive enough for the opening 10 mins where both teams traded points but once we got the goal it seemed to knock the life out of Cmills. was very flat paced after that but 26 points, nearly all from play, is a good return
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 22, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
I was looking at results from Division 1.

B'Castle played Lgiel twice in a matter of days and got two fairly serious beatings. What's going on there? Big rivalry and I wouldn't have thought there was so much between the two sides. Town facing relegation by looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on June 22, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
Ballycastle would be missing several of there seniors from the last couple years.

Couple lads in Australia, A couple in america etc.

and with regards their Reserves, any of the reserves that would have been reserves have been called upon to hurl senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on June 22, 2017, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on June 22, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
Ballycastle would be missing several of there seniors from the last couple years.

Couple lads in Australia, A couple in america etc.

and with regards their Reserves, any of the reserves that would have been reserves have been called upon to hurl senior.

Unfortunately a number of factors have come into play - bottom line is we are a shambles at present. A lot of different bodies can be blamed and in true style a lot of it is happening at present. But unfortunately we have a few men who lead our club who have shown no leadership and have allowed this to happen. We did not go looking a senior manager at any stage. In the end up we appointed a lad who is doing his best but did not get the minor job yet was appointed senior manager. Relationships are at an all time low.

hard to see any way back.

A few years ago we were on the brink of becoming a top team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 23, 2017, 09:15:17 AM
its a real pity Leyland to see the club like that. I had spoke to a BC man over the weekend and he said the same as yourself.

as you say, the club was making strides a few years ago and could of won the championship that day up in Dunloy. I thought they were going to be a force to be worked with from that point with the young players that they had.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 23, 2017, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: Leyland on June 22, 2017, 05:47:22 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on June 22, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
Ballycastle would be missing several of there seniors from the last couple years.

Couple lads in Australia, A couple in america etc.

and with regards their Reserves, any of the reserves that would have been reserves have been called upon to hurl senior.

Unfortunately a number of factors have come into play - bottom line is we are a shambles at present. A lot of different bodies can be blamed and in true style a lot of it is happening at present. But unfortunately we have a few men who lead our club who have shown no leadership and have allowed this to happen. We did not go looking a senior manager at any stage. In the end up we appointed a lad who is doing his best but did not get the minor job yet was appointed senior manager. Relationships are at an all time low.

hard to see any way back.

A few years ago we were on the brink of becoming a top team

As an outsider looking in Leyland you seem to have a very high turnover of managers in general within the club. Not sure where that stems from but even some of your own club people who have given everything on the field get a hard time and are harshly treated (i.e Humpy).

Again these are just the opinions of an outsider with no views on the internal politics which affects all big clubs.

I hope that you recover from this current dip but its maybe something deeper rooted within the club that is the real issue??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on June 24, 2017, 05:41:15 PM
Well done to the young fellas down in carlow today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2017, 06:34:36 PM
Was that the competition that ones were complaining about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
I see liam sheedy tweeting about seaan elliot saying he is a serious player. Sounds like he could be a good one.

Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 24, 2017, 07:09:29 PM
Super stuff. Well done lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
I see liam sheedy tweeting about seaan elliot saying he is a serious player. Sounds like he could be a good one.

Well done to all involved.
Any reason why his name has a stupid spelling?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 25, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Yes that's the competition that some were indifferent about a few months ago.  Wanting to know how it was developing players and hindering their club hurling.  Those kids just grabbed themselves an All Ireland medal Yesterday and played against some of the best talent in Ireland.  At 16.17 or  any age there's not too many can say that.  Everyone involved should be Congratulated.  From What I seen on twitter there was a mix of 16s and 17s who took on Kildare. Offaly and then North Cork. If that's not developing players IMO I'm not too sure what is. Those kids will go back to their own clubs full of confidence playing at that level and can only bring them on as players.  Some times you have to give things a chance. No opportunities like that in my day and moreover it Gives Antrim hurling a bit of a boost. Well done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 25, 2017, 09:23:14 PM
Can anyone on here give me dates for senior championship fixtures as I'm planning a trip home and would love to take on a few games. Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on June 25, 2017, 09:51:10 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/assets/documents/2017-Cship-dates.pdf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 25, 2017, 10:48:27 PM
Cheers that's great will definitely make sure I'm over for the semi final weekend. Should see 2 great games most likely between Ballycastle v Dunloy and Cushendall v Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2017, 11:55:15 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 25, 2017, 10:48:27 PM
Cheers that's great will definitely make sure I'm over for the semi final weekend. Should see 2 great games most likely between Ballycastle v Dunloy and Cushendall v Loughgiel

Ballycastle struggling, could be a shock there ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 26, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
I see liam sheedy tweeting about seaan elliot saying he is a serious player. Sounds like he could be a good one.

Well done to all involved.
Any reason why his name has a stupid spelling?

Its pronounced 'shan' and its the way its supposed to be spelt. A lot times he gets called Sean by mistake.

A quality player and one that ive had the joy to work with at U14 level. He has steadily improved as he has gotten older. Has 2 minor championships already and this is his first year as a minor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 28, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
Ballycastle hammered again tonight. 9-22 is a serious score to concede
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 28, 2017, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 26, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
I see liam sheedy tweeting about seaan elliot saying he is a serious player. Sounds like he could be a good one.

Well done to all involved.
Any reason why his name has a stupid spelling?

Its pronounced 'shan' and its the way its supposed to be spelt. A lot times he gets called Sean by mistake.

A quality player and one that ive had the joy to work with at U14 level. He has steadily improved as he has gotten older. Has 2 minor championships already and this is his first year as a minor.

Was he on the u21 team? If him, molloy and dogerty-cunning make it i suspect dunloy might take a bit of stopping in years to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 28, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
Ballycastle hammered again tonight. 9-22 is a serious score to concede
Who were they playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 28, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 28, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
Ballycastle hammered again tonight. 9-22 is a serious score to concede
Who were they playing?

Cushendall 9.22 to 1.9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2017, 09:16:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 28, 2017, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 26, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
I see liam sheedy tweeting about seaan elliot saying he is a serious player. Sounds like he could be a good one.

Well done to all involved.
Any reason why his name has a stupid spelling?

Its pronounced 'shan' and its the way its supposed to be spelt. A lot times he gets called Sean by mistake.

A quality player and one that ive had the joy to work with at U14 level. He has steadily improved as he has gotten older. Has 2 minor championships already and this is his first year as a minor.

Was he on the u21 team? If him, molloy and dogerty-cunning make it i suspect dunloy might take a bit of stopping in years to come.

yeah he was, played all of the games in the forwards. Conal and Keelan are both scoring well for the seniors in the league this year but it will take them time to grow into senior players along side the older lads. They are developing well but its good to see them in there and finding their feet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 29, 2017, 10:12:44 AM
Quote from: MoChara on June 28, 2017, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 28, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 28, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
Ballycastle hammered again tonight. 9-22 is a serious score to concede
Who were they playing?

Cushendall 9.22 to 1.9
And C'Dall were down to 14 for second half. Sad for any young Ballycastle players on the receiving end of these bad results.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
makes no sense when you consider they were in the county final a few years back and looked like a team who could be pushing for county honours.

I know they have lost a few players and theres been chat of a fall out in the club but it shouldnt mean that they have went to the dogs like that. with all the good underage players they have had this past few years the reserves along shouldnt of been struggling to get players together. its a pity because we need a club like Ballycastle to be up there pushing Cdall and Lgiel for the top spot along with ourselves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2017, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 29, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
makes no sense when you consider they were in the county final a few years back and looked like a team who could be pushing for county honours.

I know they have lost a few players and theres been chat of a fall out in the club but it shouldnt mean that they have went to the dogs like that. with all the good underage players they have had this past few years the reserves along shouldnt of been struggling to get players together. its a pity because we need a club like Ballycastle to be up there pushing Cdall and Lgiel for the top spot along with ourselves.

I'd say you could count these on one hand and that's where the problem lays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 29, 2017, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 29, 2017, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 29, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
makes no sense when you consider they were in the county final a few years back and looked like a team who could be pushing for county honours.

I know they have lost a few players and theres been chat of a fall out in the club but it shouldnt mean that they have went to the dogs like that. with all the good underage players they have had this past few years the reserves along shouldnt of been struggling to get players together. its a pity because we need a club like Ballycastle to be up there pushing Cdall and Lgiel for the top spot along with ourselves.

I'd say you could count these on one hand and that's where the problem lays.

Vast majority of them get overhyped too early in their careers before they even attend the first senior training session. They have sense of entitlement and when the wheels fall off blame the manager and either flee the country or go and play soccer...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 29, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
The Ballycastle situation is sad to see from a North Antrim Hurling perspective. We all need each other as was previously

Mentioned to keep everybody pushing. The County teams Ballycastle and the Club needs a strong senior team as their shop window.
From an outsider their juvenile set up has a lot to answer for, some of the behaviour towards their own mentors and other club players has been a disgrace and not dealt with properly by the Committee.i have witnessed this myself on dozens of occasions. Another problem again aluded to above has been their attutide from winning with CPC seemes to gone to their heads, again i know this from a few Dall players on those teams that had their head up there arses when they won/contested B finals, (yes B final) We are maybe lucky to have a lot of strong characters in our team that wouldnt accept the crap thankfully.
Where do they go from here? Maybe a club hurling meeting invite everybody in with an interest  in McQuillans Gac ask a respected head to lead the conversation , perhaps someone of the calibre of Big Ronan.
Only my thoughts as I said but I hope to god they stop this for, the hammerings make bad headlines.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 29, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 29, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
The Ballycastle situation is sad to see from a North Antrim Hurling perspective. We all need each other as was previously

Mentioned to keep everybody pushing. The County teams Ballycastle and the Club needs a strong senior team as their shop window.
From an outsider their juvenile set up has a lot to answer for, some of the behaviour towards their own mentors and other club players has been a disgrace and not dealt with properly by the Committee.i have witnessed this myself on dozens of occasions. Another problem again aluded to above has been their attutide from winning with CPC seemes to gone to their heads, again i know this from a few Dall players on those teams that had their head up there arses when they won/contested B finals, (yes B final) We are maybe lucky to have a lot of strong characters in our team that wouldnt accept the crap thankfully.
Where do they go from here? Maybe a club hurling meeting invite everybody in with an interest  in McQuillans Gac ask a respected head to lead the conversation , perhaps someone of the calibre of Big Ronan.
Only my thoughts as I said but I hope to god they stop this for, the hammerings make bad headlines.

Big Ronan was that well respected that the players got rid of him after getting to county final! Humpy was another respected figure who was ousted by players. Who would be more respected in Ballycastle hurling circles than Ronan and Humpy? Not many, and look at how they were treated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on June 29, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
Did Ronan not walk himself!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on June 29, 2017, 04:11:29 PM
Quote from: Hand up on June 29, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
Did Ronan not walk himself!!

He may well have but what was it that made him walk? I think there were one or two getting very vocal towards him. Anyway, the club as a whole from top down need to sort their sh*t out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2017, 04:30:32 PM
its disappointing to see it happen to the club. I've heard a few stories of fallout's but as others have said if a club legend like Humpy is outset then what hope will someone else have coming after them.

hopefully it gets resolved for the betterment of the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 02, 2017, 04:00:37 PM
Sarsfields and Dungannon abandoned after 5 minutes supposedly today. Wouldn't have said either team had the potential for this. Anyone at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 02, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle off tonight??? what the hell?  Was looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 02, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
Match is off. 'What the hell?' sums it up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on July 02, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
To put it simply , we haven't got the players anymore. If you look at the county final 2 years ago we only have , ryan McGarry , Matty , Neil , kb , Clarkey and James Mcshane still hurling . All boys here went away to work or travel for a year . Most of the boys that played against cdall the other night wouldn't start in a good reserve team , but fair play to them because they are the boys at training and what can the current manager do but work with what he has got . All the talk about Ronan is pure dribble in the previous comments , Ronan done a good job and left because of his business was suffering because of it . great to see so many people talking about the club but it's just a pittt it's not for the right reasons . Hopefully things will start to improve and this club gets back to were otvdeserves to be and competing with the other big teams ..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on July 02, 2017, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on July 02, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
To put it simply , we haven't got the players anymore. If you look at the county final 2 years ago we only have , ryan McGarry , Matty , Neil , kb , Clarkey and James Mcshane still hurling . All boys here went away to work or travel for a year . Most of the boys that played against cdall the other night wouldn't start in a good reserve team , but fair play to them because they are the boys at training and what can the current manager do but work with what he has got . All the talk about Ronan is pure dribble in the previous comments , Ronan done a good job and left because of his business was suffering because of it . great to see so many people talking about the club but it's just a pittt it's not for the right reasons . Hopefully things will start to improve and this club gets back to were otvdeserves to be and competing with the other big teams ..

Agree with most of that though I'd give great credit to the boys going to training and sticiking at it while getting hammered.  Also to the manager who has worked with these boys and brought in some top quality coaching.  Pity some "first teamers" weren't there to take advantage of it.  Also the bit in bold - we don't deserve to be anywhere other than where we are and until players start playing for the jersey & and the club instead of their own big heads we won't deserve to be anywhere else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 03, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
no one is taking any joy in seeing this happen to the club. They had asked for the game to be called off on weds night on sat to give them a bit of breathing space and then on Sunday asked for the game to be called off which i was very surprised at more so.

It must be very disappointing for the supporters and those who run the club to see this happen. I dont like to see it happen to any club but its clear theres a problem there, more so than just a few lads going away to work or travel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 03, 2017, 02:30:00 PM
Over the past 12 months we have the following players not playing/available for a host of reasons;

Fergus Donnelly, Eoin MAlonan, Saul MCaughan, stoogie Mcafee, Shane Jennings, loaf McCaughan, TT Butler, Paddy Joe Graham, Diarmuid McShane, Dermot Donnelly, Stevie McGarry, Conal Brown,

And that's just off the top of my head.

Again although current management are not ideal, I certainly wouldn't blame them for the current mess. Players don't have the pride in their club that other clubs do and as I said earlier our leadership within club is pathetic and ultimately are probably the main reason this current mess have arrived at.

Div 2 is probably our best option as things stand and allow us to sort out everything within club.

I know who I'd take back to manage the mess!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 03, 2017, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 03, 2017, 02:30:00 PM
Over the past 12 months we have the following players not playing/available for a host of reasons;

Fergus Donnelly, Eoin MAlonan, Saul MCaughan, stoogie Mcafee, Shane Jennings, loaf McCaughan, TT Butler, Paddy Joe Graham, Diarmuid McShane, Dermot Donnelly, Stevie McGarry, Conal Brown,

And that's just off the top of my head.

Again although current management are not ideal, I certainly wouldn't blame them for the current mess. Players don't have the pride in their club that other clubs do and as I said earlier our leadership within club is pathetic and ultimately are probably the main reason this current mess have arrived at.

Div 2 is probably our best option as things stand and allow us to sort out everything within club.

I know who I'd take back to manage the mess!

??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on July 03, 2017, 03:09:00 PM
Well if the club is in the mess that you say it is and you blame the people that run the club why don't you leyland stand up at the agm and challenge them for there position and see if you could run it any better in stead of sitting here criticising them . And who would you have back taking the team ?? I don't think it matters who takes the team cause the players are simply not there or not interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 03, 2017, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on July 03, 2017, 03:09:00 PM
Well if the club is in the mess that you say it is and you blame the people that run the club why don't you leyland stand up at the agm and challenge them for there position and see if you could run it any better in stead of sitting here criticising them . And who would you have back taking the team ?? I don't think it matters who takes the team cause the players are simply not there or not interested.

It's definitely not management's fault. There's a decent bunch of lads there. Blaming management is the easy option. There's a much deeper rooted issue. I've been at a number of blitzes recently with Dunloy and from U6 up you have Gary O'Kane, Mal Molloy, Shane Elliott, Paddy Martin, Sean McIlhatton etc coaching teams. Ballycastle don't seem to be able to get this Calibre of coaches in from their pool of past players. That's one of their main issues. I know nothing about the committee only hearsay so I've no comment on that.

We need Ballycastle to fulfill their potential and I hope they can soon for the good of us all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 04, 2017, 12:40:13 PM
Is this Cushendall Loughgiel match tomorrow confirmed to be for Feis and League ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on July 04, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 04, 2017, 12:40:13 PM
Is this Cushendall Loughgiel match tomorrow confirmed to be for Feis and League ?

Feis game now on Thursday. League game postponed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 04, 2017, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on July 04, 2017, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 04, 2017, 12:40:13 PM
Is this Cushendall Loughgiel match tomorrow confirmed to be for Feis and League ?

Feis game now on Thursday. League game postponed.

Cheers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 05, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
bit of a headache that one. someone got sent off on sunday for cdall so they wouldnt be available for the replay. Both clubs wanted it to be double header for the points and feis but with the players suspended for the feis but not for the league it caused a bit of a problem

well, thats the reasoning i was told last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 05, 2017, 09:57:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 05, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
bit of a headache that one. someone got sent off on sunday for cdall so they wouldnt be available for the replay. Both clubs wanted it to be double header for the points and feis but with the players suspended for the feis but not for the league it caused a bit of a problem

well, thats the reasoning i was told last night

Aye that's what I was curious about myself, Ryan McCambridge was sent off during the Feis on Saturday and I think Natty has a suspension for the league currently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Dunloy game v Castle off tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 14, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
was over at the Lgiel v Cdall game last night. An odd game for a neutral to watch as either team could of won it and lost it at the same time. I know that sounds odd but lgiel started off really well and looked like they were for blowing Cdall away and then had a big lull where Cdall did the same to them.

Second half was much the same but Lgiel took their scores when they had them whereas Cdall shot poor wides, esp from the placed ball. I think they missed 5 overall for the hour. Both teams looked good and bad in periods of the game. The red card def hurt Cdall loosing Martin Burke in full back for an off the ball tussle with Joey Scullion.

Cdall went for goal near the end of the game when 3 down and if they had of took their points instead they would of prob had a chance of a draw. Paddy Burke had a brilliant game in centre half, a real classy hurler.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Bad showing by u-21s tonight
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on July 19, 2017, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 19, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Bad showing by u-21s tonight

Minder

What is wrong here .  Antrim hurling seems to be drifting aimlessly .

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 19, 2017, 11:12:08 PM
Beat by a good Derry team. What's wrong with that. Antrim don't have God given right to beat us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 19, 2017, 11:29:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 19, 2017, 11:12:08 PM
Beat by a good Derry team. What's wrong with that. Antrim don't have God given right to beat us

No but we have the god given right to be disappointed whats wrong with that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 19, 2017, 11:54:33 PM
Fair play Derry
Good luck to them
Mind you no Ulster team deserves to be anywhere near the semi finals of that competition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 20, 2017, 12:16:14 AM
An all Ireland u21 B would be way to go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 20, 2017, 08:59:49 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 20, 2017, 12:16:14 AM
An all Ireland u21 B would be way to go

In an ideal world yes, but I know that we've 4 or 5 of our senior club team on the Down team that beat Armagh in the U21's tonight and we would struggle to field field without them.


Quote from: saffron89 on July 19, 2017, 11:54:33 PM
Fair play Derry
Good luck to them
Mind you no Ulster team deserves to be anywhere near the semi finals of that competition

I'm inclined to agree with that although I know it'll marginalise Ulster hurling even further as we don't put anywhere near the same effort in as what goes into U21 even by the likes of Westmeath and Laois who're long gone off the stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 20, 2017, 10:25:46 AM
Unfortunately for those young men and the managers last nite they were let down by the Antrim
board.  No one wanted that job and it was never going to be any better than it was last nite.  The Derry senior hurling manager was on the Derry sideline giving encouragement and support and I would say they had been training a lot longer than the Antrim squad. And we wonder why Antrim is the way it is.  If no-one wanted to coach you (and everyone was aware of that via social media) how else did we expect those kids to play.  The people that should have helped and didn't stood by and watched one of Antrims worst performances that Iv seen.  The talent is there but nobody wanted to give their time. IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2017, 10:37:59 AM
Not enough volunteers to do the thing right across clubs and county. Age old problem. Always wonder how many giving out about that truth are part of that problem  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 20, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
its an age level thats always been over looked in antrim more so than any other. the fact that the ulster champions still get into the all ireland series shows that no one is interested in developing the U21 grade at all.

the Wexford result aside the ulster champions have been taking a pasting each year at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 20, 2017, 12:06:52 PM
Quote from: old timers on July 20, 2017, 10:25:46 AM
Unfortunately for those young men and the managers last nite they were let down by the Antrim
board.  No one wanted that job and it was never going to be any better than it was last nite.  The Derry senior hurling manager was on the Derry sideline giving encouragement and support and I would say they had been training a lot longer than the Antrim squad. And we wonder why Antrim is the way it is.  If no-one wanted to coach you (and everyone was aware of that via social media) how else did we expect those kids to play.  The people that should have helped and didn't stood by and watched one of Antrims worst performances that Iv seen.  The talent is there but nobody wanted to give their time. IMO

I agree with this. If you aren't prepared/can't put the effort into a team then in future I would like to see us pull out of this competition. That may seem drastic but it may give everyone a kick in the right direction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 20, 2017, 01:42:30 PM
I dont understand this 'everyone' reference. Who are you talking to specifically?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 20, 2017, 02:07:54 PM
The u21's are now getting scolded to return their jerseys from after the match if they want to avoid disciplinary action.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Do they deserve their jersey after one game?

Plenty giving off about no manager wanting to take the team here and with sound advice on how we could improve, but not actually willing to put their names forward and then blame the county board! Strange
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 20, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Well MR2. If I was 40 yrs younger I'd gladly put my hat in the ring unfortunately time is not on my side but iv done my bit in my day.

As for the County Board being "blamed" who ultimately does the appointment of any County Manager(S) fall to?  It's not as though this was something that came out of the blue and No one was expecting this tournament to happen.  Do you think a few weeks training before a championship is good enough at any level?

As for the kids "deserving" jersey  Not too sure what you meant by that?  Would they have deserved a jersey after two matches? (Ulster final).  3 matches?   Is there a specific number. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 20, 2017, 04:38:04 PM
I agree.  Plenty to criticise... fewer willing to put shoulder to the wheel.  Seems to be development officers taking teams as they can't really say no
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 20, 2017, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Do they deserve their jersey after one game?

Plenty giving off about no manager wanting to take the team here and with sound advice on how we could improve, but not actually willing to put their names forward and then blame the county board! Strange
At what point do they earn their jersey, has this ever been clarified? Is there a minimum reward a county player can expect? Did the players take to the pitch last night to lose the game? Were they perhaps ill prepared?
Had training begun 10 weeks ago would the panel have attended where possible? I believe they would have as their record of attendance through all the age groups would back that up. Investing personal time and expense wanting nothing more in return than some county gear for their efforts. Any of the old farts that cant get over this need to finally realise once and for all that this is the No.1 motivator.
IMO we tripped over our arrogance yet again believing we would get over the line in Ulster and see if we could put up a performance against Kilkenny. Meanwhile Colly McGurk hadn't been taking things so lightly with his lads out playing us all over the field and deserving winners. Nor did Colly sit back and wait for an U21 manager to put his hand up, perhaps he saw some merit in maintaining development standards in the short term at least.
So this rumoured threat of sanction to the panellists who did not return their jerseys having been told to take them by the team management I find truly baffling. As a county we got what we deserved, is this the fault of the players?
Why does the CB continually seek to alienate this generation of players while failing them on so many levels. There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here. Mentors all jumping aboard knowing it would be a fairly easy ride. At the same time if its a less productive group the usual 2 man management team would be expected to just get through it and do what you can fobbing the players off when the embarrassing questions about gear start to arise. I personally found this one of the most annoying things I had to deal with as a development squad mentor ie. a fairly chunky disincentive for anyone to be volunteering to take these groups.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 20, 2017, 06:13:40 PM
Yeah I was struck my the size of the team taking the u-17/minors, nearly as many on the backroom team as on the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 20, 2017, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Do they deserve their jersey after one game?

Plenty giving off about no manager wanting to take the team here and with sound advice on how we could improve, but not actually willing to put their names forward and then blame the county board! Strange
At what point do they earn their jersey, has this ever been clarified? Is there a minimum reward a county player can expect? Did the players take to the pitch last night to lose the game? Were they perhaps ill prepared?
Had training begun 10 weeks ago would the panel have attended where possible? I believe they would have as their record of attendance through all the age groups would back that up. Investing personal time and expense wanting nothing more in return than some county gear for their efforts. Any of the old farts that cant get over this need to finally realise once and for all that this is the No.1 motivator.
IMO we tripped over our arrogance yet again believing we would get over the line in Ulster and see if we could put up a performance against Kilkenny. Meanwhile Colly McGurk hadn't been taking things so lightly with his lads out playing us all over the field and deserving winners. Nor did Colly sit back and wait for an U21 manager to put his hand up, perhaps he saw some merit in maintaining development standards in the short term at least.
So this rumoured threat of sanction to the panellists who did not return their jerseys having been told to take them by the team management I find truly baffling. As a county we got what we deserved, is this the fault of the players?
Why does the CB continually seek to alienate this generation of players while failing them on so many levels. There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here. Mentors all jumping aboard knowing it would be a fairly easy ride. At the same time if its a less productive group the usual 2 man management team would be expected to just get through it and do what you can fobbing the players off when the embarrassing questions about gear start to arise. I personally found this one of the most annoying things I had to deal with as a development squad mentor ie. a fairly chunky disincentive for anyone to be volunteering to take these groups.

By all accounts here it seems they just turned up, no training no selection process no manager! Play a match and complain about not getting a jersey ? Is that what we are talking about?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 20, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 20, 2017, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Do they deserve their jersey after one game?

Plenty giving off about no manager wanting to take the team here and with sound advice on how we could improve, but not actually willing to put their names forward and then blame the county board! Strange
At what point do they earn their jersey, has this ever been clarified? Is there a minimum reward a county player can expect? Did the players take to the pitch last night to lose the game? Were they perhaps ill prepared?
Had training begun 10 weeks ago would the panel have attended where possible? I believe they would have as their record of attendance through all the age groups would back that up. Investing personal time and expense wanting nothing more in return than some county gear for their efforts. Any of the old farts that cant get over this need to finally realise once and for all that this is the No.1 motivator.
IMO we tripped over our arrogance yet again believing we would get over the line in Ulster and see if we could put up a performance against Kilkenny. Meanwhile Colly McGurk hadn't been taking things so lightly with his lads out playing us all over the field and deserving winners. Nor did Colly sit back and wait for an U21 manager to put his hand up, perhaps he saw some merit in maintaining development standards in the short term at least.
So this rumoured threat of sanction to the panellists who did not return their jerseys having been told to take them by the team management I find truly baffling. As a county we got what we deserved, is this the fault of the players?
Why does the CB continually seek to alienate this generation of players while failing them on so many levels. There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here. Mentors all jumping aboard knowing it would be a fairly easy ride. At the same time if its a less productive group the usual 2 man management team would be expected to just get through it and do what you can fobbing the players off when the embarrassing questions about gear start to arise. I personally found this one of the most annoying things I had to deal with as a development squad mentor ie. a fairly chunky disincentive for anyone to be volunteering to take these groups.

By all accounts here it seems they just turned up, no training no selection process no manager! Play a match and complain about not getting a jersey ? Is that what we are talking about?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 20, 2017, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Do they deserve their jersey after one game?

Plenty giving off about no manager wanting to take the team here and with sound advice on how we could improve, but not actually willing to put their names forward and then blame the county board! Strange
At what point do they earn their jersey, has this ever been clarified? Is there a minimum reward a county player can expect? Did the players take to the pitch last night to lose the game? Were they perhaps ill prepared?
Had training begun 10 weeks ago would the panel have attended where possible? I believe they would have as their record of attendance through all the age groups would back that up. Investing personal time and expense wanting nothing more in return than some county gear for their efforts. Any of the old farts that cant get over this need to finally realise once and for all that this is the No.1 motivator.
IMO we tripped over our arrogance yet again believing we would get over the line in Ulster and see if we could put up a performance against Kilkenny. Meanwhile Colly McGurk hadn't been taking things so lightly with his lads out playing us all over the field and deserving winners. Nor did Colly sit back and wait for an U21 manager to put his hand up, perhaps he saw some merit in maintaining development standards in the short term at least.
So this rumoured threat of sanction to the panellists who did not return their jerseys having been told to take them by the team management I find truly baffling. As a county we got what we deserved, is this the fault of the players?
Why does the CB continually seek to alienate this generation of players while failing them on so many levels. There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here. Mentors all jumping aboard knowing it would be a fairly easy ride. At the same time if its a less productive group the usual 2 man management team would be expected to just get through it and do what you can fobbing the players off when the embarrassing questions about gear start to arise. I personally found this one of the most annoying things I had to deal with as a development squad mentor ie. a fairly chunky disincentive for anyone to be volunteering to take these groups.

By all accounts here it seems they just turned up, no training no selection process no manager! Play a match and complain about not getting a jersey ? Is that what we are talking about?

There were training sessions arranged at a late stage, all very ad hoc, no meaningful challenge games etc. Fairly shambolic compared to Derry's preparations. Just because the players achieved nothing as a result doesn't mmean they should be hung out to dry for a 20quid jersey. That's just petty and vindictive and ignores the real issues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2017, 10:35:06 PM
£500 quid seems a lot to pay for one game and a handful training sessions..

not the players fault of course but if no one puts themselves forward what can be done?

January each year management needs to be put in place for each team... set weeks should be fixtured in to suit each grade with pre planned games arranged... taking into consideration exams and league games is a must... maybe if that's in place a manager might be able to entice a bigger squad and backroom team... that's the ideal set up, the reality is harder to set up...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on July 21, 2017, 09:28:04 AM
"There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here."

What a load of BS. When you don't know what you are talking about nor any of the fact I find it best to keep quiet in these circumstances...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 21, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
Great to hear a bit of honesty from someone for a change:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/faithful-hero-joe-dooley-fears-its-a-long-road-back-for-current-crop-35949558.html

Antrim very similar. In a valley and not coming out anytime soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 21, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Iv learned very quickly on this board that most people on it don't know what they are talking about  it's just somewhere for people to vent.  It's usually  the ones who talk the greatest load of BS are  Empty vessels and we all know what empty vessels do. ..... make the most noise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 21, 2017, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on July 21, 2017, 09:28:04 AM
"There was a Mexican army eventually looking after the U17/minors when it became apparent there was a whiff of success about them, no corners would be cut here."

What a load of BS. When you don't know what you are talking about nor any of the fact I find it best to keep quiet in these circumstances...
mmm curiously defensive come back there mate. Whats your take on the U16 squad from someone who knows like yourself?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 21, 2017, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: old timers on July 21, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Iv learned very quickly on this board that most people on it don't know what they are talking about  it's just somewhere for people to vent.  It's usually  the ones who talk the greatest load of BS are  Empty vessels and we all know what empty vessels do. ..... make the most noise
Funny how these newbie accounts appear all of a sudden, with the sole purpose of discrediting and closing down any thorny debates. "House of Cards" wouldn't be in it :o. It's a wonder you "full vessels" wouldn't have more important things to be at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 21, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
😂😂😂. My point exactly empty. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on July 21, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
I'm not "you mate". Just making an observation that the statement I highlighted is BS (in my humble opinion which is slightly more informed on the U17/Minor squad).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 21, 2017, 08:29:22 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on July 21, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
I'm not "you mate". Just making an observation that the statement I highlighted is BS (in my humble opinion which is slightly more informed on the U17/Minor squad).
I think you were reading a bit much in to it but that was never the insinuation so lets park that and debate the point. Are you conscious of the optics, regardless of what form your involvement took or what you say you know? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 24, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: old timers on July 21, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Iv learned very quickly on this board that most people on it don't know what they are talking about  it's just somewhere for people to vent.  It's usually  the ones who talk the greatest load of BS are  Empty vessels and we all know what empty vessels do. ..... make the most noise

yet you come on here and make bold assumptions about people on here not knowing what contributions they make to their clubs on a reg basis. there are a number of people on here who have done and continue to give up all of their time for their respective clubs and the reason they are on here chatting is due to their passion for the game and this county. If they are unhappy, so what, deal with it or just stay off the page. you'll not get annoyed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on July 24, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
What are peoples thoughts on the Intermediate Hurling C'Ship matches coming up?

Pr e li m 1 St En d a s v Gle n Ro v e r s

Pr e li m 1 v La m h Dh e a r g
Ca r e y Fa u g h s v Gle n a r i f f e
Sa r sf i e ld s v St Ga lls
Ra sh a r k i n v Ti r Na No g
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2017, 01:39:09 PM
Not one easy match ... could go either way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 24, 2017, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2017, 01:39:09 PM
Not one easy match ... could go either way

Intermediate championship again going to be the most entertaining and evenly contested cship this year. Great for the neutral. No obvious winners here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2017, 03:37:12 PM
Quote from: Usain on July 24, 2017, 02:44:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2017, 01:39:09 PM
Not one easy match ... could go either way

Intermediate championship again going to be the most entertaining and evenly contested cship this year. Great for the neutral. No obvious winners here.

Will the fact that some of these teams have been playing division 3/4 have an impact on them? As an outsider I don't understand all the negative chat about Belfast hurling being on the slide. Rossa, St Endas, St Galls, St Johns, Sarsfields all seem to be strong enough.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on July 24, 2017, 03:46:16 PM
Glenariffe must be favourites?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
Quote from: theboss11 on July 24, 2017, 03:46:16 PM
Glenariffe must be favourites?

Based on results it's difficult as all the teams have dropped points in div two while the div 3 teams have won and have a wining momentum built up..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Concernedspectator on July 24, 2017, 06:02:17 PM
What the hell is happening in Ballycastle yet another manager pushed out? Ridiculous to see the club fall to these depths!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 24, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 24, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: old timers on July 21, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Iv learned very quickly on this board that most people on it don't know what they are talking about  it's just somewhere for people to vent.  It's usually  the ones who talk the greatest load of BS are  Empty vessels and we all know what empty vessels do. ..... make the most noise

yet you come on here and make bold assumptions about people on here not knowing what contributions they make to their clubs on a reg basis. there are a number of people on here who have done and continue to give up all of their time for their respective clubs and the reason they are on here chatting is due to their passion for the game and this county. If they are unhappy, so what, deal with it or just stay off the page. you'll not get annoyed.

Did I mention being annoyed?? Don't think so. But I expressed my opinion on the board. That's what the board is for.  It is not only for people to vent but that seems to be its main use. IMO.  The "chatting" only really comes about when it's complaining. IMO.  There's very little in the board by way of praise when things go well IMO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 25, 2017, 12:30:04 AM
Horrible injury for young Christy McNaughton in the Cushendall v Ballycran league game. Wishing him all the best and hope for a speedy recovery. Big loss for the Dall as well with championship not far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 25, 2017, 12:44:57 AM
My Intermediate Predictions Larnegaa

Glen Rovers to beat St Endas in Prelim and to beat Lamb Dherg in first quarter.
Glenariffe to beat Carey
Sarsfields to beat St Galls
Tir Na Og to beat Rasharkin

Sarsfields to beat Glen Rovers and Glenariffe to beat Tir Na Og in the semis

Glenariffe to beat Sarsfields in the final

Probably not get 1 right lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 25, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: Concernedspectator on July 24, 2017, 06:02:17 PM
What the hell is happening in Ballycastle yet another manager pushed out? Ridiculous to see the club fall to these depths!

Heard this yesterday. Unbelievable and really silly to sh*t on two good clubmen at this stage of the year. That's how to drive people out of a club. Poisoned chalice that job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on July 25, 2017, 10:44:40 AM
Positive news for Antrim hurling

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0725/892759-sheedy-to-join-antrim-hurling-backroom/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2017, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: old timers on July 24, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 24, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: old timers on July 21, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Iv learned very quickly on this board that most people on it don't know what they are talking about  it's just somewhere for people to vent.  It's usually  the ones who talk the greatest load of BS are  Empty vessels and we all know what empty vessels do. ..... make the most noise

yet you come on here and make bold assumptions about people on here not knowing what contributions they make to their clubs on a reg basis. there are a number of people on here who have done and continue to give up all of their time for their respective clubs and the reason they are on here chatting is due to their passion for the game and this county. If they are unhappy, so what, deal with it or just stay off the page. you'll not get annoyed.

Did I mention being annoyed?? Don't think so. But I expressed my opinion on the board. That's what the board is for.  It is not only for people to vent but that seems to be its main use. IMO.  The "chatting" only really comes about when it's complaining. IMO.  There's very little in the board by way of praise when things go well IMO

Yet you criticise others for expressing their opinion. you see the irony here?

With regards to praise its only due when its merited. the county board have got it here when its been due but sadly that has been few and far between these days.

If you go to the football thread you will get very little praise for the county set up at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 25, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: Usain on July 25, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: Concernedspectator on July 24, 2017, 06:02:17 PM
What the hell is happening in Ballycastle yet another manager pushed out? Ridiculous to see the club fall to these depths!

Heard this yesterday. Unbelievable and really silly to sh*t on two good clubmen at this stage of the year. That's how to drive people out of a club. Poisoned chalice that job.

same heard this last night. you would have to seriously question your sanity if you were to take the job now after so many others have been forced out of the way. Its not nice to see a club go like that at senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 25, 2017, 01:11:01 PM
Ridiculous stuff in Ballycastle again. They've by far the biggest population to pick from in North Antrim and a specialist hurling college in the town as well. 31 years without a championship is criminal. Those who run their club must at some stage realise that several different senior management setups are not to blame. A mirror might provide the answer...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
What's the story here lads?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539)

I'd have thought the Celtic Challenge team would still be functional to fulfill the fixture or as there too many off on holidays?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
What's the story here lads?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539)

I'd have thought the Celtic Challenge team would still be functional to fulfill the fixture or as there too many off on holidays?

I just read it there
Sheedy was very impressed with the Antrim Celtic challenge team so maybe something sprung from there
It's hard to determine if he is the manager or just helping out
I wouldn't have thought it was money oriented as he has a big job in Dublin
He would be better to help out with the u21 squads down to minor
Don't think the senior quality is there at the minute compared to when the likes of dinny Cahal first came
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on July 25, 2017, 04:22:56 PM
just reading your u17 hurlers have forfeited the all Ireland semi final to Dublin, what is the craic with that madness?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 25, 2017, 05:56:55 PM
Will Liam Watson be Hurling for Loughgiel in the championship or will he still be away in England
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 26, 2017, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
What's the story here lads?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539)

I'd have thought the Celtic Challenge team would still be functional to fulfill the fixture or as there too many off on holidays?

I just read it there
Sheedy was very impressed with the Antrim Celtic challenge team so maybe something sprung from there
It's hard to determine if he is the manager or just helping out
I wouldn't have thought it was money oriented as he has a big job in Dublin
He would be better to help out with the u21 squads down to minor
Don't think the senior quality is there at the minute compared to when the likes of dinny Cahal first came

He tweeted this yesterday, so I don't think hes going to be doing much more than running an eye over it all from time to time. Good that the management are open to suggestion.

Liam Sheedy‏ @LiamLsheedy  21h21 hours ago
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Replying to @HurlingHotspot
My involvement is well overstated unfortunately.. more like once a month. Sambo is a savage Antrim hurling man. Happy 2 help#PASSION4HURLING

https://twitter.com/LiamLsheedy/status/889804788145283073
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 26, 2017, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: MoChara on July 26, 2017, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 25, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
What's the story here lads?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273539)

I'd have thought the Celtic Challenge team would still be functional to fulfill the fixture or as there too many off on holidays?

I just read it there
Sheedy was very impressed with the Antrim Celtic challenge team so maybe something sprung from there
It's hard to determine if he is the manager or just helping out
I wouldn't have thought it was money oriented as he has a big job in Dublin
He would be better to help out with the u21 squads down to minor
Don't think the senior quality is there at the minute compared to when the likes of dinny Cahal first came

He tweeted this yesterday, so I don't think hes going to be doing much more than running an eye over it all from time to time. Good that the management are open to suggestion.

Liam Sheedy‏ @LiamLsheedy  21h21 hours ago
More
Replying to @HurlingHotspot
My involvement is well overstated unfortunately.. more like once a month. Sambo is a savage Antrim hurling man. Happy 2 help#PASSION4HURLING

https://twitter.com/LiamLsheedy/status/889804788145283073

Christ if that is what it is based on  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
How much progress is achievable at senior intercounty level when there hasn't been even one minor squad in the last 10 years that were capable of competing at a high level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 26, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
How much progress is achievable at senior intercounty level when there hasn't been even one minor squad in the last 10 years that were capable of competing at a high level?

An excellent point and one which everyone should bear in mind. People who say we have the players to compete at the top level are deluded. Club all Ireland success does not equal inter county success.

I can't think of too many hurlers in Antrim who would make the Tipp/Galway/Cork/Waterford squads. Simply not good enough. Its not nice to hear but there's no harm in saying it. We need to focus on making the underage structures better and grow the talent there. Liam sheedy, Brian Cody and Davy Fitz together wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to our current pool of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 26, 2017, 11:04:18 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
How much progress is achievable at senior intercounty level when there hasn't been even one minor squad in the last 10 years that were capable of competing at a high level?

This
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 26, 2017, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Usain on July 26, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
How much progress is achievable at senior intercounty level when there hasn't been even one minor squad in the last 10 years that were capable of competing at a high level?

An excellent point and one which everyone should bear in mind. People who say we have the players to compete at the top level are deluded. Club all Ireland success does not equal inter county success.

I can't think of too many hurlers in Antrim who would make the Tipp/Galway/Cork/Waterford squads. Simply not good enough. Its not nice to hear but there's no harm in saying it. We need to focus on making the underage structures better and grow the talent there. Liam sheedy, Brian Cody and Davy Fitz together wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to our current pool of players.

And this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 26, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
How much progress is achievable at senior intercounty level when there hasn't been even one minor squad in the last 10 years that were capable of competing at a high level?

Probably the best question asked on here in a long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on July 26, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
Why are Antrim not good enough in both football and hurling? Does anyone actually know? Massive population but they've been shite in both codes for years and years. Is it the county board? Schools? Clubs? Gaelic games culture? or is it everything?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 26, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 26, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
Why are Antrim not good enough in both football and hurling? Does anyone actually know? Massive population but they've been shite in both codes for years and years. Is it the county board? Schools? Clubs? Gaelic games culture? or is it everything?

Fish Suppers and Ulster Scots genes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
I 'think' we lack passion for the game in the right numbers. A passionate Antrim hurling man is as passionate as any hurling man from the strong counties, but we lack (I believe) the right numbers across the parental population with the crazy desire needed to encourage their kids to go at the game in the right way. I think that results in a fall off in the effort applied by a fair number of kids as they move through U16 and U18 rather than push on. Variability in coaching standards across the county (as I'm sure in alot of counties) is a thing but I believe that has a symbiotic relationship with the apathy in population that I've mentioned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on July 26, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 26, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 26, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
Why are Antrim not good enough in both football and hurling? Does anyone actually know? Massive population but they've been shite in both codes for years and years. Is it the county board? Schools? Clubs? Gaelic games culture? or is it everything?

Fish Suppers and Ulster Scots genes

Haha! You might have finally cracked it there lad!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 26, 2017, 11:47:04 PM
Haven't been on in a long time.  Someone asked the question already and I didn't see an answer.  Does anyone know why the U17 team gave dublin a walkover in semi final?  Id have thought that was a savage young team going by Celtic Challenge results.   Anyone shed any light on this for me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 27, 2017, 08:12:53 AM
hes back

naw theres been no answer to that, very disappointed when you consider how well they did this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 27, 2017, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 27, 2017, 08:12:53 AM
hes back

naw theres been no answer to that, very disappointed when you consider how well they did this season.


I see a Down lad on Hoganstand (if he is who I suspect, then he would know) suggesting that the Ulster Council decided in their infinite wisdom not to run off an Ulster U17 championship and went with who was top of the Celtic Challenge qualifier section run off back in March. Antrim topped that so were defacto the Ulster U17 championship representatives.
Whether they actually knew that or not is another matter as it seems the Down secretary didn't know about it either even though the Down delegate to the Ulster Council voted for it....

Ulster Council are shambolic in their approach to hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on July 27, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
I 'think' we lack passion for the game in the right numbers. A passionate Antrim hurling man is as passionate as any hurling man from the strong counties, but we lack (I believe) the right numbers across the parental population with the crazy desire needed to encourage their kids to go at the game in the right way. I think that results in a fall off in the effort applied by a fair number of kids as they move through U16 and U18 rather than push on. Variability in coaching standards across the county (as I'm sure in alot of counties) is a thing but I believe that has a symbiotic relationship with the apathy in population that I've mentioned.

I think these two points "parental population" and "coaching standards" are spot on with the schools added into the mix. My son is at a certain school in Atown Belfast that offer very little for GAA; the kids in his class seemed to have trouble with throwing and running at the recent sports day at P4 never mind how to hurl! My nephew is in an Irish school on the falls road and they have GAA after school twice a week as well as PE twice a week. Unless the school buy in then it makes it a bit harder. Nothing stopping the clubs giving support once a week to the school? Even to pay a club coach to go in  would be well worth it!
Although I do think clubs should be the focus for development, it's all well and good recruiting a child to play, but then to have a poor coach getting all players in a big line for a drill takes away the fun and development side.
I would only wish this Belfast plan was actually consulted with all club coaches and men on the ground!! Unfortunately our county board had other ideas of who to ask!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 27, 2017, 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on July 27, 2017, 10:12:58 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 26, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
I 'think' we lack passion for the game in the right numbers. A passionate Antrim hurling man is as passionate as any hurling man from the strong counties, but we lack (I believe) the right numbers across the parental population with the crazy desire needed to encourage their kids to go at the game in the right way. I think that results in a fall off in the effort applied by a fair number of kids as they move through U16 and U18 rather than push on. Variability in coaching standards across the county (as I'm sure in alot of counties) is a thing but I believe that has a symbiotic relationship with the apathy in population that I've mentioned.

I think these two points "parental population" and "coaching standards" are spot on with the schools added into the mix. My son is at a certain school in Atown Belfast that offer very little for GAA; the kids in his class seemed to have trouble with throwing and running at the recent sports day at P4 never mind how to hurl! My nephew is in an Irish school on the falls road and they have GAA after school twice a week as well as PE twice a week. Unless the school buy in then it makes it a bit harder. Nothing stopping the clubs giving support once a week to the school? Even to pay a club coach to go in  would be well worth it!
Although I do think clubs should be the focus for development, it's all well and good recruiting a child to play, but then to have a poor coach getting all players in a big line for a drill takes away the fun and development side.
I would only wish this Belfast plan was actually consulted with all club coaches and men on the ground!! Unfortunately our county board had other ideas of who to ask!

I think thats the main point there with regards to primary schools. if theres something there whos willing to give up their time in order to promote and improve the 3 codes in that school then it wont be done.

Our own local PS has a few vols who are eager to continue that theme of coaching the kids and making sure that they are getting to blitzs, games etc and the kids love it. If they should decide to leave the employment of the school theres no guarantee that a person of that same level of enthusiasm would be there to step up and fill in the void that they have left.

with so much emphasis put onto education and the pressure kids and parents are under to ensure that they progress along with each other child the likes of GAA etc is at the back of a minds of many parents whilst they are in school, which is understandable.

i never once had a stick in my hand at primary school for the 7 years i was there. 5 years at secondary school i played 3 years of hurling and each time it was pure torture to get any sort of time off to play a match. that was brave while ago  :D but it seems that alot of kids are still having the same problems with regards to playing hurling at that age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on July 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Usain on July 26, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 26, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on July 26, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
Why are Antrim not good enough in both football and hurling? Does anyone actually know? Massive population but they've been shite in both codes for years and years. Is it the county board? Schools? Clubs? Gaelic games culture? or is it everything?

Fish Suppers and Ulster Scots genes

Haha! You might have finally cracked it there lad!

What % of the population of Antrim are actually GAA members compared to Tipp or Galway or Kilkenny? The number of hurling clubs isnt that great for a start. People seem to forget 50% plus of the population there are not interested in gaelic sports!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Population of County Antrim - About 620,000
50% - About 310,000

Population of County Kilkenny - About 100,000

Not sure we can blame the huns this time. Must be the fish suppers.

Pastie baps would be the staple diet...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on July 27, 2017, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 27, 2017, 08:12:53 AM
hes back

naw theres been no answer to that, very disappointed when you consider how well they did this season.
its borderline a disgrace.  Unless there is a suitable reason as to why. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2017, 10:07:18 PM
I also wondered about that. It would be nice to see a reason.

With regards to why we are unsuccessful you could probably write a phd on it.

County split in terms of gaa interest due to religion / politics. County split between hurling and football. No reall appetite for the county setup. Schools not competing at a high enough level etc. Hurling is a tougher one. Geography kills us and to be honest the game wexford, kilkenny, munster teams and galway teams play sometimes feels very different to what we play. I think the hammerings we have taken over the years in the hurling has led to a loss of appetite for the county team. I believe, like a lot, we should be a lot better in the hurling.

In the hurling for some reason i have always had a bit of hope but having gone to football games for about 30 years now i am not sure i am filled with much hope :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 27, 2017, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Population of County Antrim - About 620,000
50% - About 310,000

Population of County Kilkenny - About 100,000

Not sure we can blame the huns this time. Must be the fish suppers.

Pastie baps would be the staple diet...

Brown sauce or Mayo?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2017, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 27, 2017, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 27, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Population of County Antrim - About 620,000
50% - About 310,000

Population of County Kilkenny - About 100,000

Not sure we can blame the huns this time. Must be the fish suppers.

Pastie baps would be the staple diet...

Brown sauce or Mayo?

Chips on it with red sauce would be Aldo's main dish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on July 27, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Skull hit the nail on the head.  If sheedy is coming up let him work with the underage crowd. Too late when it comes flto current seniors.  And I agree with dunloy realist not enough being done in schools.  Yet Antrim were 3Rd or 4th I think when it came to the amount being spent for coaches in Ireland.  We are a laughing stock both on and off the pitch 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on July 28, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 27, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Skull hit the nail on the head.  If sheedy is coming up let him work with the underage crowd. Too late when it comes flto current seniors.  And I agree with dunloy realist not enough being done in schools.  Yet Antrim were 3Rd or 4th I think when it came to the amount being spent for coaches in Ireland.  We are a laughing stock both on and off the pitch

Yes saw that document but that was an amount over 7/8 years which in fairness to Antrim was only enough to pay 3 full time staff over that period.
Heard that the u17 debacle was because "the lads wouldn't want another tanking." Honest to God! Couldn't believe it when I heard it! Can't see why the "saffron vision" wouldn't have wanted to play in an AI Semi!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 28, 2017, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on July 28, 2017, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on July 27, 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Skull hit the nail on the head.  If sheedy is coming up let him work with the underage crowd. Too late when it comes flto current seniors.  And I agree with dunloy realist not enough being done in schools.  Yet Antrim were 3Rd or 4th I think when it came to the amount being spent for coaches in Ireland.  We are a laughing stock both on and off the pitch

Yes saw that document but that was an amount over 7/8 years which in fairness to Antrim was only enough to pay 3 full time staff over that period.
Heard that the u17 debacle was because "the lads wouldn't want another tanking." Honest to God! Couldn't believe it when I heard it! Can't see why the "saffron vision" wouldn't have wanted to play in an AI Semi!

Kind of backs up my earlier posts, there's no interest unless there's a sniff of success. A pity really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on July 28, 2017, 10:16:41 AM
I don't think many were aware until very recently that the U17 competition progressed in this way, so its possible that they had emotionally detached from it by the time they'd heard about that fixture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on July 28, 2017, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on July 28, 2017, 10:16:41 AM
I don't think many were aware until very recently that the U17 competition progressed in this way, so its possible that they had emotionally detached from it by the time they'd heard about that fixture.

Which kind of backs up the comments on Hoganstand from a Down contributor who I suspect would be involved with Down development squads that no one seemed to know how the Ulster representative was to be selected.
There's a good chance the Antrim U17 panel was defunct after the Celtic Challenge and hadn't prepared for this.

There's no reason to suggest that Dublin would have hammered Antrim either as they can't field any lads on their current minor panel whereas Antrim can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Having a scan through the league tables there and I see Glenravel are right down at the foot of Div 3/4.  If memory serves me right they played in the top half of Div 3 after the split last year.  As such this is a fair drop and even more significant when you consider who is managing them this season.  I know it was always said that Nelson was the real man behind the Shamrocks AI success - this probably further vindicates this view point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Having a scan through the league tables there and I see Glenravel are right down at the foot of Div 3/4.  If memory serves me right they played in the top half of Div 3 after the split last year.  As such this is a fair drop and even more significant when you consider who is managing them this season.  I know it was always said that Nelson was the real man behind the Shamrocks AI success - this probably further vindicates this view point.
They were Div.4 last year,I think it has a lot more to do with an aging team in fairness and having to struggle against div.3 teams, they'll be targeting a  run in the JHC all the same. I don't think there is any doubt that Nelson's input with the Shamrock's was key to their success and PJ has bound to have learned a fair bit off him in the process. How this translates to taking a struggling lower league club I don't know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 31, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
Saul McCaughan back to the rescue for Ballycastle yesterday. A much needed league win over Ross's. They are getting a few players back in just in time for championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 31, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 31, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
Saul McCaughan back to the rescue for Ballycastle yesterday. A much needed league win over Ross's. They are getting a few players back in just in time for championship


Who called Saul
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 31, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Having a scan through the league tables there and I see Glenravel are right down at the foot of Div 3/4.  If memory serves me right they played in the top half of Div 3 after the split last year.  As such this is a fair drop and even more significant when you consider who is managing them this season.  I know it was always said that Nelson was the real man behind the Shamrocks AI success - this probably further vindicates this view point.
They were Div.4 last year,I think it has a lot more to do with an aging team in fairness and having to struggle against div.3 teams, they'll be targeting a  run in the JHC all the same. I don't think there is any doubt that Nelson's input with the Shamrock's was key to their success and PJ has bound to have learned a fair bit off him in the process. How this translates to taking a struggling lower league club I don't know.

Right does not look just as bad then - for some reason I thought they were Div 3 last year but realise you are correct.  I did think with the appointment they would be looking to kick upwards so was surprised to see them right at the foot with the exception of the two teams who get thumped on an ongoing basis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on July 31, 2017, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: Last Man on July 31, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
Quote from: Hectic on July 31, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
Having a scan through the league tables there and I see Glenravel are right down at the foot of Div 3/4.  If memory serves me right they played in the top half of Div 3 after the split last year.  As such this is a fair drop and even more significant when you consider who is managing them this season.  I know it was always said that Nelson was the real man behind the Shamrocks AI success - this probably further vindicates this view point.
They were Div.4 last year,I think it has a lot more to do with an aging team in fairness and having to struggle against div.3 teams, they'll be targeting a  run in the JHC all the same. I don't think there is any doubt that Nelson's input with the Shamrock's was key to their success and PJ has bound to have learned a fair bit off him in the process. How this translates to taking a struggling lower league club I don't know.

Right does not look just as bad then - for some reason I thought they were Div 3 last year but realise you are correct.  I did think with the appointment they would be looking to kick upwards so was surprised to see them right at the foot with the exception of the two teams who get thumped on an ongoing basis.
I'd say if they hadnt the better div.3 teams to deal with they would be doing better ie. in a proper Div.4, its hard to put a few hammerings behind you and maintain a positive mood in the camp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Concernedspectator on July 31, 2017, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 31, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 31, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
Saul McCaughan back to the rescue for Ballycastle yesterday. A much needed league win over Ross's. They are getting a few players back in just in time for championship


Who called Saul



Call me a cynic but is that not all so convenient days after getting rid of Raymond??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Listen the whole thing is a disaster - we either got relegated with wats were going or drastic measure of getting rid of manager gave us a glimmer of hope. Raymond got a bad deal but again the majority of it lies at lack of leadership in club that allowed the appointment in first place.
We might avoid relegation we might not - but either way big changes needed at our place which I'm not sure will happen. Players must deliver their side of deal now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 07:59:04 PM
Was Raymond asked to take the job or did he put his name into an empty hat?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on July 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Who is taking Ballycastle now then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 01, 2017, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Who is taking Ballycastle now then?
Given the recent history who would want to? There's probably issues on both sides and the players can't shoulder all the blame. A sad situation and a lesson to many's a club. Hopefully people can bite their lip and get this sorted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 01, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Who is taking Ballycastle now then?

Bamba & Gabriel Crawford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 01, 2017, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 01, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Who is taking Ballycastle now then?

Bamba & Gabriel Crawford

Dunloy Gabriel Crawford?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 01, 2017, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 01, 2017, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 01, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on July 31, 2017, 10:35:26 PM
Who is taking Ballycastle now then?

Bamba & Gabriel Crawford

Dunloy Gabriel Crawford?

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on August 01, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.

Did part of said "better" coaching team not already have a crack at the whip with Ballycastle recently? and it didnt seem to work?

Maybe the money over the mountain was a better draw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 01, 2017, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on August 01, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.

Did part of said "better" coaching team not already have a crack at the whip with Ballycastle recently? and it didnt seem to work?

Maybe the money over the mountain was a better draw.

What money ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Concernedspectator on August 01, 2017, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 01, 2017, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on August 01, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.
.

Did part of said "better" coaching team not already have a crack at the whip with Ballycastle recently? and it didnt seem to work?

Maybe the money over the mountain was a better draw.

What money ;) ;D

Not the first ex ballycastle manager to follow the money, that's at least 3 now? By all accounts it's not just for the money but respect.

Whether Raymond was the only eejit who put his name forward or not massive respect for the hard work and hours put in over the last 6 months with half the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 02, 2017, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: Concernedspectator on August 01, 2017, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 01, 2017, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on August 01, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.
.

Did part of said "better" coaching team not already have a crack at the whip with Ballycastle recently? and it didnt seem to work?

Maybe the money over the mountain was a better draw.

What money ;) ;D

Not the first ex ballycastle manager to follow the money, that's at least 3 now? By all accounts it's not just for the money but respect.

Whether Raymond was the only eejit who put his name forward or not massive respect for the hard work and hours put in over the last 6 months with half the team.

Two men for £15K and should win the intermediate. Shrewd business by the men over the mountain  ;)

Same two men would have done a brilliant job in town for nothing, fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on August 02, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 02, 2017, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: Concernedspectator on August 01, 2017, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 01, 2017, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on August 01, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 31, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
He put name into empty hat and club AGM appointed him. He had went for minor job but lost it on a vote. My point is that our club should be actively looking for a manger not leaving it to anyone that puts name in hat following an ad in our local GAA bulletin that is read by 30-40 people max
Would agree. Raymond's a good lad so it shouldn't reflect poorly on him but if the town want to build on good work of the previous few years they need to put the best people in place. Some may argue that they let a better coaching team go across the mountain.
.

Did part of said "better" coaching team not already have a crack at the whip with Ballycastle recently? and it didnt seem to work?

Maybe the money over the mountain was a better draw.

What money ;) ;D

Not the first ex ballycastle manager to follow the money, that's at least 3 now? By all accounts it's not just for the money but respect.

Whether Raymond was the only eejit who put his name forward or not massive respect for the hard work and hours put in over the last 6 months with half the team.

Two men for £15K and should win the intermediate. Shrewd business by the men over the mountain  ;)

Same two men would have done a brilliant job in town for nothing, fair play to them.

Should win, could have won it a few times.

Fancy St Endas for an upset
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 02, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Listen the whole thing is a disaster - we either got relegated with wats were going or drastic measure of getting rid of manager gave us a glimmer of hope. Raymond got a bad deal but again the majority of it lies at lack of leadership in club that allowed the appointment in first place.
We might avoid relegation we might not - but either way big changes needed at our place which I'm not sure will happen. Players must deliver their side of deal now

Raymond certainly got a bad deal.  I'd go further.  He was stabbed in the back.  The reason nobody wanted the job was because everybody knew it would be a tough season with so many absentees, compounded by absence of county players and others who chose to stay away from training.  Relegation was always going to be between  us, Cloughmills, Rossa and possibly Ballygalget.  The vital games were coming up and as always when the going gets tough the tough get going - except in Ballycastle where they throw the rattles and blame the manager.

But it's OK now.  The new management, a Dunloy man (Dunloy men know how to win championships - they've racked up 11 since we last got one) and a local lad -(who was rejected as senior manager a couple of years ago) have  in just a day or two turned everything round. The players have picked up their rattles.   Relegation will now be avoided and another championship in the Town by the next AGM

MacUilin Abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 02, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 02, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
Quote from: Leyland on July 31, 2017, 07:49:09 PM
Listen the whole thing is a disaster - we either got relegated with wats were going or drastic measure of getting rid of manager gave us a glimmer of hope. Raymond got a bad deal but again the majority of it lies at lack of leadership in club that allowed the appointment in first place.
We might avoid relegation we might not - but either way big changes needed at our place which I'm not sure will happen. Players must deliver their side of deal now

Raymond certainly got a bad deal.  I'd go further.  He was stabbed in the back.  The reason nobody wanted the job was because everybody knew it would be a tough season with so many absentees, compounded by absence of county players and others who chose to stay away from training.  Relegation was always going to be between  us, Cloughmills, Rossa and possibly Ballygalget.  The vital games were coming up and as always when the going gets tough the tough get going - except in Ballycastle where they throw the rattles and blame the manager.

But it's OK now.  The new management, a Dunloy man (Dunloy men know how to win championships - they've racked up 11 since we last got one) and a local lad -(who was rejected as senior manager a couple of years ago) have  in just a day or two turned everything round. The players have picked up their rattles.   Relegation will now be avoided and another championship in the Town by the next AGM

MacUilin Abu

Rattles  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 02, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
Usain

You seem to be taking great delight in the current setup in Ballycastle. Also a keen interest in my own clubs activities mostly the 2lads taking us from the town. If i didn't know any better I could accuse you of 'cute hurism' given we meet this Sunday😜 Your own club wasn't to kind to the lad Sean mc cormick a few years ago or Thomas from dunloy who took use the last few years. But sure now your @ the helm everything will be rosie in the garden or should I say 'hedge'😜

See ya Sunday kid Oisins abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 02, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
Gaelforce

Judging by the names mentioned above u have assumed incorrectly that I am a from carey! I am merely a disgruntled McQuillans supporter who has made my various points about Ballycastle's previous management being unfairly treated. Two of whom are now over the mountain and its a pity they weren't still in the town setup.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 02, 2017, 10:19:53 PM
Leyland, I spoke to 3 of your senior hurlers about this last week (one of which is a well established county hurler). I asked would they like league games on either Friday, Sat or Sun. All 3 said Saturday evening. This is the feedback I am getting from players. Are you a player yourself?

Remember when you came in here on a ball of thunder about fixtures in the local club scene?? I seem to remember you asking the same questions and voicing the same opinions on a certain social media site from your own profile?

You are far from a Ballycastle man nice try
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 02, 2017, 10:28:16 PM
You have completely lost me Gael. Stay off the weed man  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 02, 2017, 10:34:08 PM
You've a bad memory have a read through your posts on here maybe jig your memory. Anyway good luck on Sunday😝
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 03, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Gael, I don't know who you think I am but you have got the wrong man sir! I am an interested specatator/observer of ballycastle as I grew up in the town before moving away many years ago. I am now happily coaching some underage cubs in my wifes club, not that that is any of your business  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 03, 2017, 08:45:45 AM
Some cracking games in store this weekend. Hopefully the weather sorts itself out.

Predictions anyone?

Sarsfields v St Galls

Cdun v Gorts
St Teresa's v Glenarm

Rasharkin v Tir na nog
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg
Glenarrife v Carey

Glenravel v Davitts

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theboss11 on August 03, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
Some tough games this weekend.
For me it would be;

Sarsfields v St Galls - Sarsfields to win

Cdun v Gorts - Cdun to win
St Teresa's v Glenarm - Glenarm to win

Rasharkin v Tir na nog - Tir na nog to win
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg - St Endas to win
Glenarrife v Carey - Glenarrife to win




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 03, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel

as above with maybe davitts giving glenravel a hard time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 11:06:01 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 03, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel

as above with maybe davitts giving glenravel a hard time

Agree, never an easy game V Davitts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Concernedspectator on August 03, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel
Heard Glenarriff has a few injuries
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on August 03, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 03, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel

as above with maybe davitts giving glenravel a hard time

Bollocks they will - Glenravel have the magic hat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: Hectic on August 03, 2017, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 03, 2017, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
Sarsfields v St Galls              Sarsfields
   
Cdun v Gorts                         Gort
St Teresa's v Glenarm              St Teresas

Rasharkin v Tir na nog             Tir Na og
St Endas v Lamh Dhearg         St Endas
Glenarrife v Carey                Glenarrife

Glenravel v Davitts           Glenravel

as above with maybe davitts giving glenravel a hard time

Bollocks they will - Glenravel have the magic hat.

What magic hat??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 03, 2017, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 03, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Gael, I don't know who you think I am but you have got the wrong man sir! I am an interested specatator/observer of ballycastle as I grew up in the town before moving away many years ago. I am now happily coaching some underage cubs in my wifes club, not that that is any of your business  :P

So in the space of a few hours you went from a disgruntled supporter to an interested speactor/observer?🤔 Make your mind up 'man'. Quick to change the subject above to...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 04, 2017, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on August 03, 2017, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 03, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Gael, I don't know who you think I am but you have got the wrong man sir! I am an interested specatator/observer of ballycastle as I grew up in the town before moving away many years ago. I am now happily coaching some underage cubs in my wifes club, not that that is any of your business  :P

So in the space of a few hours you went from a disgruntled supporter to an interested speactor/observer?🤔 Make your mind up 'man'. Quick to change the subject above to...

Would you give me heed peace man. I'm more concerned with talking about hurling than getting involved with you trying to figure out who I am! You've been a member of this board since 19th September 2015 but your first post arrives two days ago.........  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 04, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 04, 2017, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on August 03, 2017, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 03, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Gael, I don't know who you think I am but you have got the wrong man sir! I am an interested specatator/observer of ballycastle as I grew up in the town before moving away many years ago. I am now happily coaching some underage cubs in my wifes club, not that that is any of your business  :P

So in the space of a few hours you went from a disgruntled supporter to an interested speactor/observer?🤔 Make your mind up 'man'. Quick to change the subject above to...

Would you give me heed peace man. I'm more concerned with talking about hurling than getting involved with you trying to figure out who I am! You've been a member of this board since 19th September 2015 but your first post arrives two days ago.........  ;)

I've been an interested specatator/observer since then😜
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on August 06, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Any updates on todays games?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 06, 2017, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: TheGeneral on August 06, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Any updates on todays games?
Carey beat Glenariffe by 10 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on August 06, 2017, 05:27:52 PM
Carey tanked glenariffe

Randalstown beat rasharkin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
Endas through to next round also, just our game v Sarsfields left to play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 07, 2017, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
Endas through to next round also, just our game v Sarsfields left to play

Was a standard enough affair between the Endas & Lamh Dhearg. St Endas FF is a class act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 07, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
Would love to see st endas go one better this year.  One of THe few Belfast clubs moving forward.  Scrap Belfast actually the whole county.  Not overly surprised with glenariffe result.  They seem to be on the slide.  St galls are bound to fancy it.  Didn't they get beat in an all Ireland intermediate club final by some Galway team not long ago ...... role on the senior championship.  Maximum 3 decent games !!!! Think it's between the dall and loughgiel.  Shocker I know.  Dunloy mind you will be hard to shift in a couple of years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on August 07, 2017, 11:10:45 PM
Dunloy have a golden ticket this year, but they will need a big preformance to beat the dall.  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 08, 2017, 09:45:17 AM
we've a good chance of making a final this year if we play to our potential and keep our current form going but winning it, well im not sure about that. Cdall have a good well seasoned team there and will be hard to shift from the top spot. Loughgiel gave us a good pasting in the Feis Cup final and showed that they are still a serious contender after a lot of under par performance's this year.

Weds nights league meeting between ourselves and Lgiel will be more than interesting and will see where we stand. At the min im still in the 'were not there' camp in terms of winning a championship but these next few games will see where we are.

Im hopefully more than confident about winning it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 08, 2017, 10:30:33 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 08, 2017, 09:45:17 AM
we've a good chance of making a final this year if we play to our potential and keep our current form going but winning it, well im not sure about that. Cdall have a good well seasoned team there and will be hard to shift from the top spot. Loughgiel gave us a good pasting in the Feis Cup final and showed that they are still a serious contender after a lot of under par performance's this year.

Weds nights league meeting between ourselves and Lgiel will be more than interesting and will see where we stand. At the min im still in the 'were not there' camp in terms of winning a championship but these next few games will see where we are.

Im hopefully more than confident about winning it.

I think Dunloy are still maybe 3-5 years away from becoming the dominant force again. But who knows, if they scalp cdall it might happen. I think it'll be couple of years yet.

Great game in prospect at Rossa tomo night. Town in good form at the minute with the new management team. Rossa not looking so good coming into this. Winner takes all in terms of league survival. I'll take a spin across and watch this one. Fairly confident of a ballycastle win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 02:41:18 PM
Heard rumblings of St. Endas fielding an illegal player in their preliminary game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 08, 2017, 02:46:24 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 02:41:18 PM
Heard rumblings of St. Endas fielding an illegal player in their preliminary game

Heard that myself, he was underage apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 08, 2017, 03:18:15 PM
Yes it's true regarding St Endas player and Armoy could have had them ejected from championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on August 08, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Could of had them rejected?

Is that a past tense and they have decided to let St Endas to play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 08, 2017, 03:29:21 PM
Correct
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 03:31:00 PM
Makes you wonder about the significance of rules, not a great advertisement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...

If they had of beaten my team or put them out later in a later championship round I wouldn't be pleased knowing that they shouldn't be in the competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 08, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 08, 2017, 10:30:33 AM

Great game in prospect at Rossa tomo night. Town in good form at the minute with the new management team. Rossa not looking so good coming into this. Winner takes all in terms of league survival. I'll take a spin across and watch this one. Fairly confident of a ballycastle win.

I don't see how you work that out Usain.  Since Raymond was ousted they've played 2 teams that they'd played previously:
v Dunloy (May 14) 4 pt defeat
v Dunloy (Jul 27) 15 pt defeat

v Cloughmills (Apr 30) 10 pt win
v Cloughmills ( Aug 5) 9 pt win

So you could easily argue that they've gone back not improved.

I'd guess you're basing it on the fact that they've won their last couple of games but they've been against Cloughmills who haven't won a game all season and against Rossa who have been as you say " not looking so good coming into this".
So again I don't see any basis for thinking Ballycastle have improved.

I don't doubt that the Town will beat Rossa on Wednesday and avoid relegation but that's more down to the (lack of) quality of the opposition rather than the wonderful new management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...

If they had of beaten my team or put them out later in a later championship round I wouldn't be pleased knowing that they shouldn't be in the competition.

What part did the lad play? full match come on as a sub?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2017, 06:35:09 PM
Who is the oran kearney scoring points for balycastle? That's not the coleraine manager is it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 08, 2017, 06:53:16 PM
No. No relation as far as I know.  He's a minor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 08, 2017, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 08, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 08, 2017, 10:30:33 AM

Great game in prospect at Rossa tomo night. Town in good form at the minute with the new management team. Rossa not looking so good coming into this. Winner takes all in terms of league survival. I'll take a spin across and watch this one. Fairly confident of a ballycastle win.

I don't see how you work that out Usain.  Since Raymond was ousted they've played 2 teams that they'd played previously:
v Dunloy (May 14) 4 pt defeat
v Dunloy (Jul 27) 15 pt defeat

v Cloughmills (Apr 30) 10 pt win
v Cloughmills ( Aug 5) 9 pt win

So you could easily argue that they've gone back not improved.

I'd guess you're basing it on the fact that they've won their last couple of games but they've been against Cloughmills who haven't won a game all season and against Rossa who have been as you say " not looking so good coming into this".
So again I don't see any basis for thinking Ballycastle have improved.

I don't doubt that the Town will beat Rossa on Wednesday and avoid relegation but that's more down to the (lack of) quality of the opposition rather than the wonderful new management.

Well if you put it like that sir maybe they have went backways lol

Wednesday night will tell us more. Should be a clanker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...

If they had of beaten my team or put them out later in a later championship round I wouldn't be pleased knowing that they shouldn't be in the competition.

What part did the lad play? full match come on as a sub?

Started, think he played most of the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 08, 2017, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 08, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 08, 2017, 10:30:33 AM

Great game in prospect at Rossa tomo night. Town in good form at the minute with the new management team. Rossa not looking so good coming into this. Winner takes all in terms of league survival. I'll take a spin across and watch this one. Fairly confident of a ballycastle win.

I don't see how you work that out Usain.  Since Raymond was ousted they've played 2 teams that they'd played previously:
v Dunloy (May 14) 4 pt defeat
v Dunloy (Jul 27) 15 pt defeat

v Cloughmills (Apr 30) 10 pt win
v Cloughmills ( Aug 5) 9 pt win

So you could easily argue that they've gone back not improved.

I'd guess you're basing it on the fact that they've won their last couple of games but they've been against Cloughmills who haven't won a game all season and against Rossa who have been as you say " not looking so good coming into this".
So again I don't see any basis for thinking Ballycastle have improved.

I don't doubt that the Town will beat Rossa on Wednesday and avoid relegation but that's more down to the (lack of) quality of the opposition rather than the wonderful new management.

Well if you put it like that sir maybe they have went backways lol

Wednesday night will tell us more. Should be a clanker

Clanker might describe it perfectly!  Ballycastle by at least 12

Dunloy v Loughgiel on the other hand should be a clinker.  Loughgiel by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2017, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...

If they had of beaten my team or put them out later in a later championship round I wouldn't be pleased knowing that they shouldn't be in the competition.

What part did the lad play? full match come on as a sub?

Started, think he played most of the game

Who do Carey get in the next round?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 09, 2017, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2017, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 08, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 08, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Bad if clubs are complaining and getting a team thrown out for using an underage player...

If they had of beaten my team or put them out later in a later championship round I wouldn't be pleased knowing that they shouldn't be in the competition.

What part did the lad play? full match come on as a sub?

Started, think he played most of the game

Who do Carey get in the next round?

Randalstown
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2017, 02:48:22 PM
The most open competition in Antrim each year i think, despite the heavy defeats if you were to base this on league form or positions in league 2 or 3/4 teams you'd come up with different results, but the team that puts in the effort usually wins, can see that with St Enda's over the past few years.. Carey have been knocking at the door and Sarsfields have/ should be a lot better in Championship, they have just lost their way in the championships over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 09, 2017, 04:49:17 PM
Can I ask without offending anyone as I've been out of the county a few years now why are Clooney Gaels and Creggan playing in the Senior Championship. 1 is bottom of division 2 and the other are in division 3/4. With them being drawn to play Cushendall and Loughgiel respectively one can only see 2 hammerings for them which surely won't do them any favours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:04:21 PM
Clooney & Creggan won the Intermediate which means they have to play senior for 5 (I think) years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 08:58:15 AM


Clanker might describe it perfectly! Ballycastle by at least 12


Got this badly wrong.

Management need sacked immediately.

Committee should also step down immediately.

I'm raging at this.  Relegated because of the disgraceful behaviour of some senior players and committee members.  Stabbed a decent man in the back and still got relegated.

No more than they deserve but our club deserves better.

Disgraceful!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 09, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
What was the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:37:05 PM
Rossa 2-18 Town 2-15

To be fair that's good scoring from Rossa after the last few outings
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 09, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
Glentaise maybe you should put your name forward for one of these positions in stead of giving off on here about it , by the sounds of it you know everything??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
Be surprised if Ballycastle go down, county will likely restructure the league to keep them up!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 09, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
The town will bounce straight back up. Maybe it took this year to wake a lot of people up in the club. Could be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 09, 2017, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
Be surprised if Ballycastle go down, county will likely restructure the league to keep them up!

I take it your a Carey man going by your name. You might be in favour of league restructuring yourself, it might save youse from going down to Div. 3  :P

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 08:58:15 AM


Clanker might describe it perfectly! Ballycastle by at least 12


Got this badly wrong.

Management need sacked immediately.

Committee should also step down immediately.

I'm raging at this.  Relegated because of the disgraceful behaviour of some senior players and committee members.  Stabbed a decent man in the back and still got relegated.

No more than they deserve but our club deserves better.

Disgraceful!

Disgraceful is based on how they have performed over the season, not against the teams at the bottom...

Rossa from what I seen (ten minutes of first half and ten of second) were the better team. As said they were 9 points up at one stage and bar the strangest goal they let in before half time would have been further in front.. that's not yo say the Castle can't play but they had no consistency over the season so they might do better in a knockout situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 12:58:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 08:58:15 AM


Clanker might describe it perfectly! Ballycastle by at least 12


Got this badly wrong.

Management need sacked immediately.

Committee should also step down immediately.

I'm raging at this.  Relegated because of the disgraceful behaviour of some senior players and committee members.  Stabbed a decent man in the back and still got relegated.

No more than they deserve but our club deserves better.

Disgraceful!

Disgraceful is based on how they have performed over the season, not against the teams at the bottom...

Rossa from what I seen (ten minutes of first half and ten of second) were the better team. As said they were 9 points up at one stage and bar the strangest goal they let in before half time would have been further in front.. that's not yo say the Castle can't play but they had no consistency over the season so they might do better in a knockout situation.
They don't have consistency over seasons
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 10, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
Be surprised if Ballycastle go down, county will likely restructure the league to keep them up!
A similar request from St Johns was knocked back at the beginning of the year.

Guess we will have to wait and see, my moneys on a 10 team division 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2017, 08:59:59 AM
cant see the leagues changing, the clubs wont want to change it again. If its not broke why medal with it? others have tried to have it changed to suit themselves and it didnt happen so sadly for BC they will be in D2 next year.

Entertaining game between ourselves and Lgiel. Disappointed in the result esp with the 15mins into the second half where we shipped 0-09 with no reply before we made the changes on the pitch. once we did that we got back level again but it was too much work too late in the game. lgiel got their goals late on to knock the wind right out of us.

Despite losing im pretty confident now that we could at least make a bit more progress this year in the championship with this squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on August 10, 2017, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 10, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on August 09, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
Be surprised if Ballycastle go down, county will likely restructure the league to keep them up!
A similar request from St Johns was knocked back at the beginning of the year.

Guess we will have to wait and see, my moneys on a 10 team division 1

The reason St Johns got knocked back was that it was felt that the 8 team Div1 was working well IIRC, but my big concern would be that the Ports get shafted with the Antrim CB deciding to only relegate/promote 1 team, meaning Ballycastle get a reprieve and only St Johns come up..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

I'm saying nothing!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 10, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2017, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 08:58:15 AM


Clanker might describe it perfectly! Ballycastle by at least 12


Got this badly wrong.

Management need sacked immediately.

Committee should also step down immediately.

I'm raging at this.  Relegated because of the disgraceful behaviour of some senior players and committee members.  Stabbed a decent man in the back and still got relegated.

No more than they deserve but our club deserves better.

Disgraceful!
I couldn't be assed getting into it at the time but I did think your prediction would be well out. I know we travelled light the last couple of outings and took tankings but at home, in a crunch game, we were always going to be a different team.
We were full value for it too IMO, 9 up at one stage in the 2nd half I think and almost gave Ballycastle a sniff of it but always had a 3/4 point cushion.

Well done to our lads. That's a tough league!

100% HS. That was a completely different Rossa team I saw last night compared to the previous one in b'castle. Fair dues to ya.

Div 2 will give the town something to work up from.

But I'd say there'll be some amount of motions from a load of clubs been fired into the ring during the winter re leagues  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 10, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2017, 08:59:59 AM
cant see the leagues changing, the clubs wont want to change it again. If its not broke why medal with it? others have tried to have it changed to suit themselves and it didnt happen so sadly for BC they will be in D2 next year.

Entertaining game between ourselves and Lgiel. Disappointed in the result esp with the 15mins into the second half where we shipped 0-09 with no reply before we made the changes on the pitch. once we did that we got back level again but it was too much work too late in the game. lgiel got their goals late on to knock the wind right out of us.

Despite losing im pretty confident now that we could at least make a bit more progress this year in the championship with this squad.

Went to sleep for 15 minutes in SH
DD Quinn got LG over the line with great puck outs to ping the runners
We have some fire power now and shorty is coming to the boil at the right time
Great game and should have had a draw at least
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2017, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

I'm saying nothing!!!!!!!!!

There is a God!! ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 10, 2017, 11:37:03 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 10, 2017, 10:55:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2017, 08:59:59 AM
cant see the leagues changing, the clubs wont want to change it again. If its not broke why medal with it? others have tried to have it changed to suit themselves and it didnt happen so sadly for BC they will be in D2 next year.

Entertaining game between ourselves and Lgiel. Disappointed in the result esp with the 15mins into the second half where we shipped 0-09 with no reply before we made the changes on the pitch. once we did that we got back level again but it was too much work too late in the game. lgiel got their goals late on to knock the wind right out of us.

Despite losing im pretty confident now that we could at least make a bit more progress this year in the championship with this squad.

Went to sleep for 15 minutes in SH
DD Quinn got LG over the line with great puck outs to ping the runners
We have some fire power now and shorty is coming to the boil at the right time
Great game and should have had a draw at least

Not many better than DD when it comes to puckouts. Doesn't need a swashbuckling run up but with fantastic vision (and excellent movement from their middle third) can punch a ball 70 yards fast with low trajectory into a mans hand before a tackle can get to it. Gives them a real psychological edge knowing their puckout percentages are going to be high every game he plays. Apart from the 3rd quarter it was an enjoyable game to watch and was very well refereed by Owen Elliott who let the game go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 10, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
Hard to argue with that analysis DR. I really enjoyed the games impressed with the physical conditioning of Dunloy? Who was the lad taking the warm up? Some great young hurlers on view. Shamrocks my slight favourites for champo now. Dunloy still abit raw yet they are missing a Paddy liam Richmond or dick character atm imo. Although with a golden ticket to the final it's all on the day once they get there.

Disappointing result for the town last night although they have been staring it in the face all year got their house in order to late by the looks of it. The leagues may change I know St John's are very keen on it & I see their point tbf as they have been way above the standard of div 2 this year. If the town go down which they deserve to will it do them or antrim hurling any good racking up big scores against armoy agohill Randalstown carey  not sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on August 10, 2017, 12:29:56 PM
Problem with restructuring is that you might end up with one or two teams out of their depth in Division1. Does them no good just like it does St Johns or Ballycastle no good in Division2. Teams ebb and flow with a few exceptions.
Might the answer be a qualifying league? 4 groups of 4, playing 6 matches, top two in each group forms top division with play off  between teams in third place for two more places. Ten teams then play 9 matches each giving 15 matches all together. As it stands some teams aren't getting the chance to develop this might give a bit of leeway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on August 10, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
Hard to argue with that analysis DR. I really enjoyed the games impressed with the physical conditioning of Dunloy? Who was the lad taking the warm up? Some great young hurlers on view. Shamrocks my slight favourites for champo now. Dunloy still abit raw yet they are missing a Paddy liam Richmond or dick character atm imo. Although with a golden ticket to the final it's all on the day once they get there.

Disappointing result for the town last night although they have been staring it in the face all year got their house in order to late by the looks of it. The leagues may change I know St John's are very keen on it & I see their point tbf as they have been way above the standard of div 2 this year. If the town go down which they deserve to will it do them or antrim hurling any good racking up big scores against armoy agohill Randalstown carey  not sure.

lad taking it was Eoin mc Nicholl from Glenulin whos been with them all year looking after the physical aspect of their work. Hes done a good job with them IMO and has them going along nicely.

Agree with your assessment of us, were still a few years off winning a championship but they are maturing nicely at that level. Coby and Keelan look to be capable of playing at that level but are very light compared to those big defenders like Tony McCloskey, Ding, Neilly in there last night. Still it bodes well for the future for us

A good sign is shorty getting back again to his level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 10, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on August 10, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
Hard to argue with that analysis DR. I really enjoyed the games impressed with the physical conditioning of Dunloy? Who was the lad taking the warm up? Some great young hurlers on view. Shamrocks my slight favourites for champo now. Dunloy still abit raw yet they are missing a Paddy liam Richmond or dick character atm imo. Although with a golden ticket to the final it's all on the day once they get there.

Disappointing result for the town last night although they have been staring it in the face all year got their house in order to late by the looks of it. The leagues may change I know St John's are very keen on it & I see their point tbf as they have been way above the standard of div 2 this year. If the town go down which they deserve to will it do them or antrim hurling any good racking up big scores against armoy agohill Randalstown carey  not sure.

lad taking it was Eoin mc Nicholl from Glenulin whos been with them all year looking after the physical aspect of their work. Hes done a good job with them IMO and has them going along nicely.

Agree with your assessment of us, were still a few years off winning a championship but they are maturing nicely at that level. Coby and Keelan look to be capable of playing at that level but are very light compared to those big defenders like Tony McCloskey, Ding, Neilly in there last night. Still it bodes well for the future for us

A good sign is shorty getting back again to his level.
Yes he seems to have them in good nick. Young cunning is a joy to watch cute as a fox to. Shorty looked to be coming to the boil just at the right time. Loughgiels physical conditioning over the last number of years has been of a high level they have set the bar for all to follow.

Big result for Armoy last night I'm guessing Carey suffered from their result against us on Sunday which is understandable. We play Armoy at home on Wednesday night midweek games are a nono for us with so many lads working away so I'd say they'll get 2points there which would summon Carey to division 3. Strange circumstances after their performance on Sunday I'd make them favourites for Intermediate

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 10, 2017, 08:15:36 PM
Armoy could have won by a lot more. They seem to give away a lot of fouls which kept carey in the game. Thought we would have our tails up from the championship win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fairhead on August 10, 2017, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

The last time Ballycastle went down in 2010 I think you'll find Glenariffe sent them down with a last day upset win over Dunloy.

Beyond that clubs voted on any other restructure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2017, 12:33:09 AM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 10, 2017, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

The last time Ballycastle went down in 2010 I think you'll find Glenariffe sent them down with a last day upset win over Dunloy.

Beyond that clubs voted on any other restructure.

They beat us twice that year ( I was manager) and went straight up.. tight enough games but they had too much for the other teams, was a one up one down league then... did them no harm and they went on to compete in a county final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on August 11, 2017, 04:34:43 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 09, 2017, 09:04:21 PM
Clooney & Creggan won the Intermediate which means they have to play senior for 5 (I think) years

As far as I am aware there is no obligation to go into senior if you win intermediate and same with intermediate/junior. I could be wrong here. Always thought it was just etiquette/stepping up/testing yourself that teams went up to the grade above.

I think the 5 year rule discussed relates to the Ulster Championship. If you win ulster junior then you either can't compete in ulster junior for 5 years or can't represent ulster junior if you win it for 5 years. It might be an Antrim rule re the winning team's participation in Ulster, rather than an Ulster rule. Not sure!!

Anyone clarify which is right? It is a very tough/long rule for those clubs (of which there appear to be a good few) who sit in the bracket of either (i) decent enough to win junior at a push but not intermediate or (ii) decent enough to win intermediate in a good year but get tanked at senior.

Not sure if discussed previously but 2/3 years would probably be fairer? I get that you should not be able to win it/represent Antrim 2 years running.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 11, 2017, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 10, 2017, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

The last time Ballycastle went down in 2010 I think you'll find Glenariffe sent them down with a last day upset win over Dunloy.

Beyond that clubs voted on any other restructure.

Jesus don't mention that again  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 12, 2017, 09:58:29 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 11, 2017, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: Fairhead on August 10, 2017, 11:09:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Did they not restructure for Ballycastle a few years ago?

The last time Ballycastle went down in 2010 I think you'll find Glenariffe sent them down with a last day upset win over Dunloy.

Beyond that clubs voted on any other restructure.



Jesus don't mention that again  ;)

Agent Humpy is in place :-)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
FROM FACEBOOK
Ruairí Óg CLG
6 mins ·
Tonights (Wed) ACSHL game away to Cloughmills has been cancelled as Cloughmills are unable to field.
Please spread the word.

Strange Cloughmills couldn't get a team for championship or is there something else to this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 16, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
FROM FACEBOOK
Ruairí Óg CLG
6 mins ·
Tonights (Wed) ACSHL game away to Cloughmills has been cancelled as Cloughmills are unable to field.
Please spread the word.

Strange Cloughmills couldn't get a team for championship or is there something else to this?

Was there not a death on the Cloughmills parish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 16, 2017, 03:52:51 PM
Some big games in division 2s relegation battle tonight. The weather isn't making things any easier for the players. Is all games still on as thinking of travelling to one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 16, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
Strange that Cloughmills can't field a team tonight. They've a senior team and a 2nd team that play in the NAJHL...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 16, 2017, 08:57:09 PM
With our match off I went to see Glenariff V Armoy. It finished 1-15 each, Armoy played 45 minutes with 14 men after Johnny McErlain got sent off. Some good scores from both teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 16, 2017, 10:59:27 PM
tight for the drop in div 2 but also for the top in div 3

tonights results
sarsfields beat na magha
st endas beat lamh dhearg
cushendun v dungannon not played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
Only 48 points in the loughgiel rossa match!

You could have blew that one up early mr!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2017, 08:18:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2017, 07:48:41 AM
Only 48 points in the loughgiel rossa match!

You could have blew that one up early mr!

Be very unfair on Loughgiel who were chasing a big score on Cushendall, to be fair I didn't add on any injury time ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2017, 10:01:38 AM
How could that game have been so one sided? Thats a fairly embarrassing scoreline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
Lgiel have +65 points over Cdall in terms of scoring now so its a bit of a farce of a way to win a league whenever the team in second gets awarded the points and no chance to help their scoring difference.

still i dont think anyone will lose any sleep in Cdall over who wins the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 17, 2017, 11:04:14 AM
AFAIK it is decided on head to head scoring aggregate, which i think was only decided after both teams had played.

but agree i dont think there will be much sleep lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 17, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
From County website; available i believe from before the league started.

3.07 Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal points, the following criteria shall be used:
a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the meetings between the teams shall be the deciding factor, except for in a one round league where the deciding factors will be from b to d below.
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus points conceded in the games played between the teams
c. The highest score for.
d. Play off where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be decided as per b above
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 17, 2017, 12:07:07 PM
Quote from: jdyok on August 17, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
From County website; available i believe from before the league started.

3.07 Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal points, the following criteria shall be used:
a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the meetings between the teams shall be the deciding factor, except for in a one round league where the deciding factors will be from b to d below.
b. The highest scoring difference. That is points scored minus points conceded in the games played between the teams
c. The highest score for.
d. Play off where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be decided as per b above


very good. suppose if you really gave a toss one could have looked for that.

Didnt actually mean decided meant informed, but either way no sleep lost
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on August 17, 2017, 12:38:23 PM
Did st galls v portaferry not play last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 18, 2017, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 17, 2017, 10:01:38 AM
How could that game have been so one sided? Thats a fairly embarrassing scoreline
A dead rubber game on a Wednesday night when you have a championship game on Friday night.

It is what it is...

Its a hectic time off the year for dual men HS. Going from hurling cship one weekend to football cship the following wknd and important league games in between. The dual men in my club are getting er tight at the minute but if ya are winning its always easier!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2017, 11:28:51 AM
Massive result for Ballycastle last night beating Rossa in the Minor Championship. Not many would have seen that coming.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
Good result for your guys skull. From what i saw rossa, cushendall and dunloy looked the strongest there but obviously ballycastle had something to say there. It did look like it had the potential to be a good championship the minor. (Great to see coverage on that saffron gael of the league as it builds up an interest).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 19, 2017, 02:19:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
Good result for your guys skull. From what i saw rossa, cushendall and dunloy looked the strongest there but obviously ballycastle had something to say there. It did look like it had the potential to be a good championship the minor. (Great to see coverage on that saffron gael of the league as it builds up an interest).

Bit unfair on Rossa as a club having to play a MHC and SFC game on the same night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 19, 2017, 02:40:30 PM
Every team left in it will feel they've a chance after last nights result in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 19, 2017, 02:40:30 PM
Every team left in it will feel they've a chance after last nights result in Ballycastle

Was impressed with Loughgiel and having 'watched' Naomh Padraig last night it should be a good game... surprised at Rossa to be honest, ref'd them this year and they seemed to have a great balance about them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2017, 09:56:15 AM
yeah i was very surprised at the Rossa result as i had felt they would of been the team everyone would be chasing this year.

Our lads played well Friday night in pretty atrocious conditions and that goal we got in the first half was the difference between the sides. still to be fair they dug in and got the result against a good Cushendall side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2017, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

In a juvenile game that is pretty ridiculous and maybe one of the reasons why come minor most teams are struggling to get a squad together.

All players should be treated equally regardless of their talent as they progress through juvenile levels, it is those 4/5 kids who might not be the best now that will end up being the most important elements of the squad.

Too often mentors are all about winning all way through the juvenile grades and not looking long term, Naomh Eoin and a certain MJ is this perfect example of this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 21, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
Play the long game and encourage him to keep practicing, attend every training session and over time develop the confidence to learn to compete for his place. Plenty of late developers who only get there by staying the course. If a child is a regular attender at training and shows signs that he's practicing at home, there's more likelihood of him getting game time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2017, 10:43:47 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

In a juvenile game that is pretty ridiculous and maybe one of the reasons why come minor most teams are struggling to get a squad together.

All players should be treated equally regardless of their talent as they progress through juvenile levels, it is those 4/5 kids who might not be the best now that will end up being the most important elements of the squad.

Too often mentors are all about winning all way through the juvenile grades and not looking long term, Naomh Eoin and a certain MJ is this perfect example of this.

I agree NAG. It's a poor reflection on the sporting ethics of the management and it's rife in the club I'm referring to. The mother of the child is probably going to take the child out of the club over it. It's hard to blame her. Like you said that child could end up a good minor/senior hurler, a club secretary or chairman. A good friend of mine could hardly hit a ball at U12 and went on to play senior county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:59:44 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 21, 2017, 10:51:57 AM
Play the long game and encourage him to keep practicing, attend every training session and over time develop the confidence to learn to compete for his place. Plenty of late developers who only get there by staying the course. If a child is a regular attender at training and shows signs that he's practicing at home, there's more likelihood of him getting game time.

There's definitely merit in what you're saying Skull. That's the current dilemma faced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?

Its harsh on any kid, and I'm not saying its right, but pulling him from the team wont develop him either, as skull says keep him working at it and who knows how he'll develop.. is he a full minor/under 16/under 14/ under 12 player? i.e has he another year at that age group?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?

Its harsh on any kid, and I'm not saying its right, but pulling him from the team wont develop him either, as skull says keep him working at it and who knows how he'll develop.. is he a full minor/under 16/under 14/ under 12 player? i.e has he another year at that age group?

2nd year of U14 so as you know MR if struggling to make the team in your second year it's going to be tough. Kid practises every day, hurl never out of hand and loves the game. I have to say i always empty the bench in juvenile hurling but hey, what do I know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
plenty of kids were average at under age and had their stint on and off the bench only to develop through commitment and good coaching as they have got older to become a good player.

It can be frustrating to see a child only play a few moments despite a team winning handy. sometimes it can be down to being so wrapped up in a game and not realising the time left or sometimes you maybe wanting another child to get a longer run out. theres so many kids in a squad that you can always find it hard to ensure that everyone is playing all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2017, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?

Its harsh on any kid, and I'm not saying its right, but pulling him from the team wont develop him either, as skull says keep him working at it and who knows how he'll develop.. is he a full minor/under 16/under 14/ under 12 player? i.e has he another year at that age group?

2nd year of U14 so as you know MR if struggling to make the team in your second year it's going to be tough. Kid practises every day, hurl never out of hand and loves the game. I have to say i always empty the bench in juvenile hurling but hey, what do I know?

Was that in LG on Saturday
We where over and everyone got a run out at least 1 full match + another half over three matches
We had 6 subs
We where never in the hunt for winning the thing so that makes it easier I suppose
That Rossa team has some smashing hurlers
The lad at no8 he's a rolls Royce
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2017, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
A juvenile is always a sub in matches. Fair enough as there are better players and that's how life works. The child's team win a game by 20+ points and the child got to play for the last 60 seconds.

What would you do if this was your child?

Surely that's down to the management and their judgement? Best thing to do is never get involved over management selection... Winning by 20 points or winning by 1 some managers see value in getting 60 minutes regardless how the game is going out of their best team

You don't think it's a bit harsh on a young child?

Its harsh on any kid, and I'm not saying its right, but pulling him from the team wont develop him either, as skull says keep him working at it and who knows how he'll develop.. is he a full minor/under 16/under 14/ under 12 player? i.e has he another year at that age group?

2nd year of U14 so as you know MR if struggling to make the team in your second year it's going to be tough. Kid practises every day, hurl never out of hand and loves the game. I have to say i always empty the bench in juvenile hurling but hey, what do I know?

Was that in LG on Saturday
We where over and everyone got a run out at least 1 full match + another half over three matches
We had 6 subs
We where never in the hunt for winning the thing so that makes it easier I suppose
That Rossa team has some smashing hurlers
The lad at no8 he's a rolls Royce

It wasn't the tournament you're referring to .....but what you're saying here is the way I'd agree with.  Certainly if you get to a semi or final go and try and win it. Outside of that - every child should play.

I think something that has been overlooked here is that the ego of some insecure adults can get in the way of doing what's right/best long term. What I mean is they have to be seen to be winning at whatever cost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 21, 2017, 01:29:17 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPzo3EqAHt4

If he's made of the right stuff he won't let anyone make him stop
Sometimes the young lads who work very hard because they are weaker exel later because they have the work ethic
I read yesterday Lee Keegan never made minor and u21 and for me he's the best footballer in Ireland now
they are all different
It's the ones who think everyone else as at fault that won't improve
That's my 2 cents on it any way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2017, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

AFAIK it already is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Agree, this is the kinda debate that is needed on this board from time to time.

I've started to take my nephew to a few of his soccer blitzes recently, the rule applies that if you start 1 game then you can't start the next. There is squad of 15 Un10/Un11s who go home happy each week and the numbers are thriving right through the age groups.

I watched a few young lads in my own club suffer by not getting games and throwing the head up and leaving, in turn good families who did a powerful amount of work for the club have been lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Agree, this is the kinda debate that is needed on this board from time to time.

I've started to take my nephew to a few of his soccer blitzes recently, the rule applies that if you start 1 game then you can't start the next. There is squad of 15 Un10/Un11s who go home happy each week and the numbers are thriving right through the age groups.

I watched a few young lads in my own club suffer by not getting games and throwing the head up and leaving, in turn good families who did a powerful amount of work for the club have been lost.

Thriving numbers ....now you're talking. That's exactly what's needed. I think parents are a lot more informed nowadays and should select a club with an ethos that is attractive to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 21, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
What club is this hurlingstick. I'm sure of parents spoke to they managers they would maybe give them the reason as to why they are not getting much game time .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Agree, this is the kinda debate that is needed on this board from time to time.

I've started to take my nephew to a few of his soccer blitzes recently, the rule applies that if you start 1 game then you can't start the next. There is squad of 15 Un10/Un11s who go home happy each week and the numbers are thriving right through the age groups.

I watched a few young lads in my own club suffer by not getting games and throwing the head up and leaving, in turn good families who did a powerful amount of work for the club have been lost.

Thriving numbers ....now you're talking. That's exactly what's needed. I think parents are a lot more informed nowadays and should select a club with an ethos that is attractive to them.

They went to a blitz last season in Derry City, the club bought sausages rolls and tea/coffee for parents during the morning and sponsored a meal for parents/players alike on the way home. Wee things like that, possibly a big financial outlay at the time but its reflects kindly on the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 21, 2017, 02:40:17 PM
What club is this hurlingstick. I'm sure of parents spoke to they managers they would maybe give them the reason as to why they are not getting much game time .

I don't think that would be fair to the club/management involved. The conversation with management has been had/will be had. It's sensitive as at the end of the day they're volunteers. I think it's something the club in question need to look at within themselves. The club's structures are very poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Agree, this is the kinda debate that is needed on this board from time to time.

I've started to take my nephew to a few of his soccer blitzes recently, the rule applies that if you start 1 game then you can't start the next. There is squad of 15 Un10/Un11s who go home happy each week and the numbers are thriving right through the age groups.

I watched a few young lads in my own club suffer by not getting games and throwing the head up and leaving, in turn good families who did a powerful amount of work for the club have been lost.

Thriving numbers ....now you're talking. That's exactly what's needed. I think parents are a lot more informed nowadays and should select a club with an ethos that is attractive to them.

They went to a blitz last season in Derry City, the club bought sausages rolls and tea/coffee for parents during the morning and sponsored a meal for parents/players alike on the way home. Wee things like that, possibly a big financial outlay at the time but its reflects kindly on the club.

Think the stuff that goes on off the pitch is every bit as important. Anyway thanks for contributions from everyone. This was a constructive debate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 21, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Agree, this is the kinda debate that is needed on this board from time to time.

I've started to take my nephew to a few of his soccer blitzes recently, the rule applies that if you start 1 game then you can't start the next. There is squad of 15 Un10/Un11s who go home happy each week and the numbers are thriving right through the age groups.

I watched a few young lads in my own club suffer by not getting games and throwing the head up and leaving, in turn good families who did a powerful amount of work for the club have been lost.

Thriving numbers ....now you're talking. That's exactly what's needed. I think parents are a lot more informed nowadays and should select a club with an ethos that is attractive to them.

They went to a blitz last season in Derry City, the club bought sausages rolls and tea/coffee for parents during the morning and sponsored a meal for parents/players alike on the way home. Wee things like that, possibly a big financial outlay at the time but its reflects kindly on the club.

Think the stuff that goes on off the pitch is every bit as important. Anyway thanks for contributions from everyone. This was a constructive debate.

Agree totally and without dragging up old debates on this board, some of our clubs and county teams could take a leaf out of their book. In my own situation with the nephew, he feels very valued and very much part of a team, all the kids goes to each others birthday parties etc.

Hope you get sorted, after all the youth are our future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 21, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Championship Weekend coming up now what's everyone's predictions

Senior
Ballycastle v Rossa - I'll go Ballycastle by 5
Loughgiel v Creggan - Loughgiel by 15+
Dunloy v St Johns - Dunloy by 8
Cloughmills v Cushendall - Cushendall by 15+

Intermediate
Tir Na Og v Carey - Carey by 2

Junior
Gort Na Mona v St Paul's - Gort by 3
Glenarm v Glenravel - Glenarm by 6


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2017, 04:13:08 PM
Senior
Ballycastle v Rossa - Rossa by 1/2 points. cant see much being in this.
Loughgiel v Creggan - Loughgiel by 20+. cant see anything other than a breeze for Lgiel
Dunloy v St Johns - Dunloy by 5. Predict this one to be a tough game
Cloughmills v Cushendall - Cushendall by 10. Cmills have been scoring well towards the tail of the season. Yes they lose the games but they havent been hammered out the gate.

Intermediate
Tir Na Og v Carey - Carey by 4

Not really sure about the junior games as ive not seen any of them play or their results this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 21, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 21, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Championship Weekend coming up now what's everyone's predictions

Senior
Ballycastle v Rossa - I'll go Ballycastle by 5
Loughgiel v Creggan - Loughgiel by 15+
Dunloy v St Johns - Dunloy by 8
Cloughmills v Cushendall - Cushendall by 15+

Intermediate
Tir Na Og v Carey - Carey by 2

Junior
Gort Na Mona v St Paul's - Gort by 3
Glenarm v Glenravel - Glenarm by 6

I expect something very similar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
Rossa won their key encounter with ballycastle though so that one could go either way i would say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
Dunloy have improved a fair bit this season and St John's are just ok so I could see Dunloy winning with a bit to spare. Rossa v Ballycastle is probably going to be the tie of the round. With Ciaran Clarke and Saul McCaughan up front you've always a chance even with lots missing. Sarsfields also play St. Galls this weekend and that could go either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 21, 2017, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
Dunloy have improved a fair bit this season and St John's are just ok so I could see Dunloy winning with a bit to spare. Rossa v Ballycastle is probably going to be the tie of the round. With Ciaran Clarke and Saul McCaughan up front you've always a chance even with lots missing. Sarsfields also play St. Galls this weekend and that could go either way.

Sarsfields v st galls is Wednesday night but yes. A tough one to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 21, 2017, 09:26:36 PM
Spoke to a Johnnies man at work. They are quietly confident of causing an upset against Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 22, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
i would say there are, they have been winning all season in Div. 2.I know its a division below us but when your winning all the time it breeds confidence in a team and a winning mentality.

they have nothing to lose and are going well for this game. we are on the same page so it should be a good game.

Match has been moved to 6pm now on sunday as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2017, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
i would say there are, they have been winning all season in Div. 2.I know its a division below us but when your winning all the time it breeds confidence in a team and a winning mentality.

they have nothing to lose and are going well for this game. we are on the same page so it should be a good game.

Match has been moved to 6pm now on sunday as well.

Venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2017, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
i would say there are, they have been winning all season in Div. 2.I know its a division below us but when your winning all the time it breeds confidence in a team and a winning mentality.

they have nothing to lose and are going well for this game. we are on the same page so it should be a good game.

Match has been moved to 6pm now on sunday as well.

Venue?

Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 22, 2017, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 22, 2017, 08:41:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 22, 2017, 08:18:42 AM
i would say there are, they have been winning all season in Div. 2.I know its a division below us but when your winning all the time it breeds confidence in a team and a winning mentality.

they have nothing to lose and are going well for this game. we are on the same page so it should be a good game.

Match has been moved to 6pm now on sunday as well.

Venue?

Loughgiel

With the forecast for this week, that does not bode well for the teams involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Championship? anything else should be for all the players in the squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 22, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Championship? anything else should be for all the players in the squad

I would agree with that. Few other neighbouring coaches I would speak to would look at it in terms of age groups. Say U12 everyone plays, U14 start to be more selective. Dangerous road to go down and will lead to big dropout numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Its horrible at juvenile level, I took our 12's for 4 years and I know what its like, kids are hanging on your coat tails looking games following you around and you're trying to win the match, plus you've the parents down and they are sorta huffing too.. Me personally I never really had that problem as I generally had just about a team every week! But it doesn't change at senior lol!! feckers still gurning at me for not putting them on!

Some of the lads really pushed on and have been county players some drifted off altogether... Country teams have it harder as in playing for the parish and I wouldn't be one for telling you to move him to a neighbouring parish as that brings a shit storm again, but losing out on the game that he loves is also pish!

Ive ref'd a few tournaments lately were subs were mandatory you couldn't start a second half without putting on your subs... why not bring this into play at under 12 and under 14

This is a good debate. To be honest most clubs I've seen nowadays are trying hard in a variety of ways to get all kids on the pitch. As you say different clubs have different problems with regards this issue.

I'm just of the opinion that at the younger juvenile levels all kids should get game time and never worry about a stupid trophy. It's very short sighted to win at the cost of losing a few kids possibly.

Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Championship? anything else should be for all the players in the squad

I would agree with that. Few other neighbouring coaches I would speak to would look at it in terms of age groups. Say U12 everyone plays, U14 start to be more selective. Dangerous road to go down and will lead to big dropout numbers.

But there are loads of tournaments nowadays compared to when I was that age, plenty of opportunities for coaches to play everyone, bring 2 teams if needs be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 22, 2017, 11:45:32 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 21, 2017, 06:41:38 PM
Dunloy have improved a fair bit this season and St John's are just ok so I could see Dunloy winning with a bit to spare. Rossa v Ballycastle is probably going to be the tie of the round. With Ciaran Clarke and Saul McCaughan up front you've always a chance even with lots missing. Sarsfields also play St. Galls this weekend and that could go either way.
can Saul Mc Caughan hurl for the town?   Wasn't he in San Fran hurling for the summer?? or did he walk away (as usual)  after being looked after all summer??  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 22, 2017, 11:49:22 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 21, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 21, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Championship Weekend coming up now what's everyone's predictions

Senior
Ballycastle v Rossa - I'll go Ballycastle by 5
Loughgiel v Creggan - Loughgiel by 15+
Dunloy v St Johns - Dunloy by 8
Cloughmills v Cushendall - Cushendall by 15+

Intermediate
Tir Na Og v Carey - Carey by 2

Junior
Gort Na Mona v St Paul's - Gort by 3
Glenarm v Glenravel - Glenarm by 6

I expect something very similar
Rossa by whatever they want.   ballycastle couldn't win an argument and the players attitudes are nothing short of a disgrace to that once great club. 

loughgiel by 10+
St. john +1
C dall +15

Carey +3
Gort + 5
glenravel +1
again.   ballycastle and some of there players should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!!    wonder will they give Saul a few more £ to play this weekend.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on August 23, 2017, 12:38:40 AM
Saul can't play championship as he played in New York! Can only play in the league as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 23, 2017, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Usain on August 22, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Good debate here. I am involved wit a couple of underage teams in my club. The debate we always have is at what point do ya start to windback the 'everyone plays' policy and start really putting out the strongest team ya have.

Principles and values that you'd want to apply have to slip if you've only been able to convince half the team to attend training on a regular basis, but in an ideal world I think there comes a point where you do a Paddy Guinness and put the power in each individuals hand. Between 16 and 18 for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 23, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on August 23, 2017, 12:38:40 AM
Saul can't play championship as he played in New York! Can only play in the league as far as I am aware.

Don't know about that.  Might depend on whether he transferred or was on a J1.  I'm assuming it was a J1 as there'd be restrictions about transferring back and forth in the same year. The rules on J1s\sanctions are a bit complicated but I don't think there's any distinction made about playing league or championship.  Completely open to correction!

And so:
Senior
Ballycastle v Rossa -         Ballycastle by 7
Loughgiel v Creggan -       Loughgiel by 15+
Dunloy v St Johns -           Dunloy by 5
Cloughmills v Cushendall - Cushendall by 15+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 23, 2017, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 22, 2017, 11:45:32 PM

can Saul Mc Caughan hurl for the town?   Wasn't he in San Fran hurling for the summer?? or did he walk away (as usual)  after being looked after all summer??  :o

Quotewonder will they give Saul a few more £ to play this weekend

You seem to have it in for Saul.  I've never heard of him being paid to play for Ballycastle and think that is just bullshit.
I'd concede that sometimes his commitment to training etc isn't the greatest but he's a brilliant hurler and when he goes out to play a game he gives it everything.  He's only a young lad still 21? ish so plenty time for him to develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on August 23, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
I believe he went on a full transfer! He played over there therefore was still able to play league here but not able to play championship. I could be wrong but that is my understanding of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2017, 04:45:02 PM
hes eligible to play for BC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
am hearing is eligible to play now myself.  he walked away from whoever he was playing with after being flew out and looked after. him and his girlfriend no less  :o

the big men in cloaks that run the show behind the scenes for us ( getting managers fired and loosing games to get lads removed and so on) got the young lad a few £ to come home from the states early.  now am hearing he won't field for them as he's a soccer game    ???    what's wrong with young lads now a days!!!!    boys a boys!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 05:07:03 PM
i said US above  ::).  i mean them, am a free lancer.  ran from my own club by the big cloaks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2017, 05:42:43 PM
Heard that this morning myself
He is eligible to play alright but won't be starting due not attending training because of soccer
He's a lost cause in hurling for club and county
Pity he's a class act
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 23, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
  he walked away from whoever he was playing with after being flew out and looked after. him and his girlfriend no less  :o


That's just not true.

Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID/quote]
[quote
the big men in cloaks that run the show behind the scenes for us  got the young lad a few £ to come home from the states early

And this isn't true either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 23, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 23, 2017, 05:42:43 PM
Heard that this morning myself
He is eligible to play alright but won't be starting due not attending training because of soccer
He's a lost cause in hurling for club and county
Pity he's a class act

"won't be starting" leaves room for him to come on at some stage. :-)

Don't know if he's a total lost cause.  We've had other players who opted for soccer for short periods like Clarkey and Jennings and came back.  As I said before he's young and might settle yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 23, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 05:05:30 PM
  he walked away from whoever he was playing with after being flew out and looked after. him and his girlfriend no less  :o


That's just not true.

Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID/quote]
[quote
the big men in cloaks that run the show behind the scenes for us  got the young lad a few £ to come home from the states early

And this isn't true either.
Do give me a laugh at your side of things then.  cause my info came from the horses mouth!! why didn't he return to the states??   he's a lost cause.  Clarkes attitude is 100 times better.  and the town are a lost cause.  i can go a lot deeper if you'd like.  i just don't think here is the place for it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Some good laughs on this feed . Saul didn't go back to America because he was refused entry at the airport . Can see us winning by 5-6 on Saturday but it depends which team turns up, time Neal mcauley and a few of the so called senior players stood up and be counted when we need them the most .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2017, 09:52:31 PM
Good win for sarsfields tonight. Should be two half decent games in the senior this weekend though two probably won't be tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Some good laughs on this feed . Saul didn't go back to America because he was refused entry at the airport . Can see us winning by 5-6 on Saturday but it depends which team turns up, time Neal mcauley and a few of the so called senior players stood up and be counted when we need them the most .
nothing to do with the chairman reaching him money to stay and fight relegation? I agree it's time NMA stood up.  he's maybe to busy getting managers sacked to concentrate on hurling??  he's credited with the last two!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
Are you from the town because you seem to know a lot more that's going on than most of the members of the club by the sounds of it .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
Are you from the town because you seem to know a lot more that's going on than most of the members of the club by the sounds of it .
i know plenty.   and you can't argue with any of it.  31 years since we won a county title at senior level. some of the talent that passed those gates.  and a lad that blew in from Carey can call the shots on a manager who would have died for our club getting the boot!!!   maybe if he put as much effort in on the field as he did hanging humpy we wouldn't be in this shape.  Going back to Saul, best thing to happen would he leave him at the football.  holding the club to ransom with his careless attitude.   bring back nander pinky and the boys with a bit of heart to take the team rather than that skitter from dunloy and a lad who couldn't hurl spuds to ducks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Leyland on August 23, 2017, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
Are you from the town because you seem to know a lot more that's going on than most of the members of the club by the sounds of it .
i know plenty.   and you can't argue with any of it.  31 years since we won a county title at senior level. some of the talent that passed those gates.  and a lad that blew in from Carey can call the shots on a manager who would have died for our club getting the boot!!!   maybe if he put as much effort in on the field as he did hanging humpy we wouldn't be in this shape.  Going back to Saul, best thing to happen would he leave him at the football.  holding the club to ransom with his careless attitude.   bring back nander pinky and the boys with a bit of heart to take the team rather than that skitter from dunloy and a lad who couldn't hurl spuds to ducks

Incredible crap from you. I've been critical of club on here but your stuff is slanderous and dangerous. All your posts previous to this debate were slanderous also. Please keep your "pub talk" to your pub and let the lads focus on this weekend. We have had a disaster of a season but still think we won't be far away on Saturday. Saul will be there. He will play a part. Neal who has been a stalwart will also play. He does need a big game but he rarely lets down in championship.

Good luck to everyone this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 24, 2017, 02:54:17 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 23, 2017, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
Are you from the town because you seem to know a lot more that's going on than most of the members of the club by the sounds of it .
i know plenty.   and you can't argue with any of it.  31 years since we won a county title at senior level. some of the talent that passed those gates.  and a lad that blew in from Carey can call the shots on a manager who would have died for our club getting the boot!!!   maybe if he put as much effort in on the field as he did hanging humpy we wouldn't be in this shape.  Going back to Saul, best thing to happen would he leave him at the football.  holding the club to ransom with his careless attitude.   bring back nander pinky and the boys with a bit of heart to take the team rather than that skitter from dunloy and a lad who couldn't hurl spuds to ducks

Incredible crap from you. I've been critical of club on here but your stuff is slanderous and dangerous. All your posts previous to this debate were slanderous also. Please keep your "pub talk" to your pub and let the lads focus on this weekend. We have had a disaster of a season but still think we won't be far away on Saturday. Saul will be there. He will play a part. Neal who has been a stalwart will also play. He does need a big game but he rarely lets down in championship.

Good luck to everyone this weekend
no crap here.  am simply speaking the truth.   what part of the above do you as a town man disagree on,   i'll say again.  if Neil wasn't otherwise occupied by getting good men sacked he'd maybe hurl more.  to call him a stalwart is laughable.   zero balls.  had no problem to humpys face.  but stabbed him in the back!!!    a man who has actually brought pride to the black and amber.   what has this stalwart ever done????   and saul play a part??   they were told players who played soccer this week would be dropped from possible selection!!!!   his reply was. "am playing.  f**k use" and hasn't been seen or heard from since!!!   is it one rule for him because we gave him a few pound???    maybe you don't no all that you think you do??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 24, 2017, 07:25:03 AM
The pair of you boys, if you are both Ballycastle members are doing yourselves and your club an absolute disservice getting on like this in a public forum. Neither the time nor the place. If this is the way Ballycastle are approaching the championship as a club then I'd get the house on Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 24, 2017, 08:49:37 AM
Ballycastle are a joke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
i agree with JJ here lads, ive heard plenty myself this past few days about whats happened from BC mates and putting it up here on a public forum is just wrong.

Keep it to yourselves or PM's to each other. it doesnt do the club any good having stuff like that talked about on an internet forum. theres plenty happens in each others clubs from time to time and putting it online serves no one other that those who would prefer to run your club down than talk it up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
Jesus lads!!!! I know I have a bitta banter with the Cargin lads buts that's just banter, Ive nothing but respect for their club to be honest and we all have in fighting in the club but keep it off the forum please!! Never wash your dirty linen in public
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2017, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 24, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
i agree with JJ here lads, ive heard plenty myself this past few days about whats happened from BC mates and putting it up here on a public forum is just wrong.

Keep it to yourselves or PM's to each other. it doesnt do the club any good having stuff like that talked about on an internet forum. theres plenty happens in each others clubs from time to time and putting it online serves no one other that those who would prefer to run your club down than talk it up.

Don't think the good of the club is the primary concern here lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcquillans man on August 24, 2017, 10:06:49 AM
Well I'm a member of the club and haven't heard half of that stuff . All I'm for saying is you seem to know a lot about the running of the club . Aw well the best of luck to our senior hurlers this weekend . I have no doubt if saul is playing and ciaran Clarke , Neil and Matthew and kevin barry play well we will win . Good luck
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on August 24, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
MR2...that was a bit of a shock last night, your hurlers getting beat by the Paddies?...you at it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2017, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 24, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
MR2...that was a bit of a shock last night, your hurlers getting beat by the Paddies?...you at it?

You think it was a shock? Sarsfields have a team of players that have been playing together for the best part of 10/15 years from juvenile right up, they've had a poor run of form in the championships of late but someone was going to get beat by them and last night it was us, we had one scorer and it was all but one from frees... we've not had any real form in the league while Sarsfields have built up a winning mentality...

Now in saying that we should have levelled the game at the death with that goal opportunity.. one of our best players was missing (Stewart) and we didn't help ourselves on the night for various reasons that I wont get into as i'm not one to blast anyone who in our club puts the effort in by giving up their time to training games managing and all the other stuff that I know goes on with taking a team, unlike our friends up in Ballycastle

So I'd like to wish all the rest of the teams left in the competition the very best and hopefully represent Antrim in Ulster and beyond
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 24, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2017, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on August 24, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
MR2...that was a bit of a shock last night, your hurlers getting beat by the Paddies?...you at it?

You think it was a shock? Sarsfields have a team of players that have been playing together for the best part of 10/15 years from juvenile right up, they've had a poor run of form in the championships of late but someone was going to get beat by them and last night it was us, we had one scorer and it was all but one from frees... we've not had any real form in the league while Sarsfields have built up a winning mentality...

Now in saying that we should have levelled the game at the death with that goal opportunity.. one of our best players was missing (Stewart) and we didn't help ourselves on the night for various reasons that I wont get into as i'm not one to blast anyone who in our club puts the effort in by giving up their time to training games managing and all the other stuff that I know goes on with taking a team, unlike our friends up in Ballycastle

So I'd like to wish all the rest of the teams left in the competition the very best and hopefully represent Antrim in Ulster and beyond

You can be a d**k at times but as honest a post as there has been aslong time.

I don't know what the Ballycastle posters are on but I think the way they are behaving on this forum is a disgrace. Did they not have a banner a few years ago saying "Death before Dishonor"..

A
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 24, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
Don't think anyone who is clued into hurling at intermediate level will have found last nights result much of a surprise.  There's nothing really between all the intermediate sides (division 2 without st johns and portaferry and the top 4 in division 3).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 24, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
If anybody thinks that THINGSTHATNEEDSAID is a Ballycastle man I'd think they're badly mistaken.

"Death before dishonour"?  The honourable thing to have done would have been to stick with and support the man who put his hand up when nobody else was interested.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 24, 2017, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 24, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
If anybody thinks that THINGSTHATNEEDSAID is a Ballycastle man I'd think they're badly mistaken.

"Death before dishonour"?  The honourable thing to have done would have been to stick with and support the man who put his hand up when nobody else was interested.

Don't know the ins and outs and to to be honest, I'm not caring but I agree with your last sentence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on August 25, 2017, 08:12:46 AM
Quote from: Leyland on August 23, 2017, 11:16:37 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 23, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans man on August 23, 2017, 10:17:07 PM
Are you from the town because you seem to know a lot more that's going on than most of the members of the club by the sounds of it .
i know plenty.   and you can't argue with any of it.  31 years since we won a county title at senior level. some of the talent that passed those gates.  and a lad that blew in from Carey can call the shots on a manager who would have died for our club getting the boot!!!   maybe if he put as much effort in on the field as he did hanging humpy we wouldn't be in this shape.  Going back to Saul, best thing to happen would he leave him at the football.  holding the club to ransom with his careless attitude.   bring back nander pinky and the boys with a bit of heart to take the team rather than that skitter from dunloy and a lad who couldn't hurl spuds to ducks

Incredible crap from you. I've been critical of club on here but your stuff is slanderous and dangerous. All your posts previous to this debate were slanderous also. Please keep your "pub talk" to your pub and let the lads focus on this weekend. We have had a disaster of a season but still think we won't be far away on Saturday. Saul will be there. He will play a part. Neal who has been a stalwart will also play. He does need a big game but he rarely lets down in championship.

Good luck to everyone this weekend

100% Leyland. I been very critical also but just frustrated. I still believe the town will come through against Rossa. They have reached the bottom, only way is up. Itll be a tight game but fancy town by 2/3 points. Good luck to all involved I'm looking forward to seeing a big performance from them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2017, 10:21:05 AM
Dunloy v St Johns now 5pm on sunday in Cushendall

Pitch was capable of taking two games on sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 25, 2017, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2017, 10:21:05 AM
Dunloy v St Johns now 5pm on sunday in Cushendall

Pitch was capable of taking two games on sunday

Loughgiel? i would doubt it, i was on it last Saturday and it was in bad shape then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 25, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
Quote from: Megaman on August 25, 2017, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 25, 2017, 10:21:05 AM
Dunloy v St Johns now 5pm on sunday in Cushendall

Pitch was capable of taking two games on sunday

Loughgiel? i would doubt it, i was on it last Saturday and it was in bad shape then.

It has been on the slide now for about 6/8 years. Not the pitch is was before then or even close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 25, 2017, 02:05:56 PM
sorry should of said their pitch wasnt capable of taking two games.

I was on their pitch twice last week and it was getting into bad shape even then. A lot of bare patches starting. they had stuff down on it to try and get it growing again i assume but that rain there this week has just ruined it now.

our pitch has been closed all week to keep it in a shape for the two games on sat night.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 25, 2017, 09:43:02 PM
Matches called off at o donnells, randalstown, st brigids tonight due to waterlog, probably others too. St pauls v gort moved to the 4g at woodlands apparently. 🙈🙈🙈
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 07:09:08 PM
Ht Ballycastle 0-8 Rossa 1-5. Brutal stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
Last minute penalty by ballycastle to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 26, 2017, 08:56:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 26, 2017, 08:02:44 PM
Last minute penalty by ballycastle to win it.

The ref called penalty from 70m away - controversial. I would have thought he shouldn't be guessing what happened and therefore shouldn't have called penalty.

Fair play to Ballycastle. Rossa dominated possession in the 2nd half but their full forward line offered little. James Connolly was excellent - best player on the pitch even though he didn't start. Though once Ballycastle knew every puck out was going to him it was easy to foil.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
All officials were wearing ear pieces so possibly the umpires called the penalty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on August 26, 2017, 09:33:59 PM
Just back from Dunloy and not a bad night for hurling but a poor night for "skinny". As an impartial observer who just wanted to see two good matches to say it was disappointing would be an understatement. First match was a non-contest and in the 2nd match Rossa must be gutted because 99% of the spectators at that game knew that wasn't a penalty. Even the Dunloy spectators were embarrassed to say the least and were laughing at some of the decisions.   As for young Connolly bei I think I must have been watching a different game.  Scored a couple of cracking points but  that was it- he could change a game but It doesn't happen.  Unfortunately for Rossa. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 26, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 09:33:59 PM
Just back from Dunloy and not a bad night for hurling but a poor night for "skinny". As an impartial observer who just wanted to see two good matches to say it was disappointing would be an understatement. First match was a non-contest and in the 2nd match Rossa must be gutted because 99% of the spectators at that game knew that wasn't a penalty. Even the Dunloy spectators were embarrassed to say the least and were laughing at some of the decisions.   As for young Connolly bei I think I must have been watching a different game.  Scored a couple of cracking points but  that was it- he could change a game but It doesn't happen.  Unfortunately for Rossa.

He seemed to want the game to be all about him - James Connolly won 7 high balls as clean catches and scored 3/4 points second half from play. He was the stand out player.

JJ - I might be wrong but I'm not sure umpires can call penalty. I don't think they can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 09:52:42 PM
Maybe umpires can't call a penalty? I actually did think it was a penalty from where I was standing and I'm a neutral observer. Thought Rossa were the better team but a few bad wides in the second half cost them. Young Connolly was the stand out player on show. Some of the catches were sensational. Apparently he was the stand out hurler in New York this summer in fairly illustrious company.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:13:45 PM
not long home.  have to say i actually feel bad for rossa. Far better team on the night.  embarrassing from the ref,  we showed fight but the ref 100% kept the town in the game.  Connolly won countless ball and was fouled countless times. i was standing amongst dunloy ones who couldn't believe there eyes at some of his calls. regardless a win is a win. the circus that is Ballycastle senior hurlers 2017 rolls on for another couple of weeks.  All the hard men with the blinkers on that didn't want to listen  where's Saul? 

Saul left the group.    ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 26, 2017, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:13:45 PM
not long home.  have to say i actually feel bad for rossa. Far better team on the night.  embarrassing from the ref,  we showed fight but the ref 100% kept the town in the game.  Connolly won countless ball and was fouled countless times. i was standing amongst dunloy ones who couldn't believe there eyes at some of his calls. regardless a win is a win. the circus that is Ballycastle senior hurlers 2017 rolls on for another couple of weeks.  All the hard men with the blinkers on that didn't want to listen  where's Saul? 

Saul left the group.    ::)

Rossa were the better team. The penalty at the end won the game for Ballycastle.

In the 1st minute of the game the referee done Gavin Bell for leaving the small square for a puckout. That set the tone for the evening. Peculiar!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
All officials were wearing ear pieces so possibly the umpires called the penalty?

Umpire shouldn't be calling a penalty in my book, (not actually 100% on that) probably let the ref know if it was inside the box but not actually call a penalty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 26, 2017, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
All officials were wearing ear pieces so possibly the umpires called the penalty?

Umpire shouldn't be calling a penalty in my book, (not actually 100% on that) probably let the ref know if it was inside the box but not actually call a penalty

Think that's right. He can ask an umpire's advice. He had made the decision himself though from 70m after a quick/huge puckout. He signaled for it as he reached the halfway line. In my opinion he shouldn't be making calls from that distant - then again what would I know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
skinny has more good games than bad. but that was a very bad one. Town simply wallpapering over major cracks. we're still a disgrace!! in two weeks time will NMA get his mate the road like the managers before him?  or is all good because he can run the show the way he wants to?  Club mustn't have came up with the few shillings for the money man from the states.  little temperamental toe rag!!!!!    BRING BACK HUMPY!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2017, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 26, 2017, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2017, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 26, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
All officials were wearing ear pieces so possibly the umpires called the penalty?

Umpire shouldn't be calling a penalty in my book, (not actually 100% on that) probably let the ref know if it was inside the box but not actually call a penalty

Think that's right. He can ask an umpire's advice. He had made the decision himself though from 70m after a quick/huge puckout. He signaled for it as he reached the halfway line. In my opinion he shouldn't be making calls from that distant - then again what would I know.

It's tough on all refs but he's generally closer than supporters and he's made the call, as difficult as it is for Rossa that's that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2017, 12:01:47 AM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
skinny has more good games than bad. but that was a very bad one. Town simply wallpapering over major cracks. we're still a disgrace!! in two weeks time will NMA get his mate the road like the managers before him?  or is all good because he can run the show the way he wants to?  Club mustn't have came up with the few shillings for the money man from the states.  little temperamental toe rag!!!!!    BRING BACK HUMPY!!!!

Your personal attacks on players and people are getting tedious now, I'm sure when Ballycastle are advertising for a new senior manager or a new committee, you'll be the first in those lovely black and amber gates.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
skinny has more good games than bad. but that was a very bad one. Town simply wallpapering over major cracks. we're still a disgrace!! in two weeks time will NMA get his mate the road like the managers before him?  or is all good because he can run the show the way he wants to?  Club mustn't have came up with the few shillings for the money man from the states.  little temperamental toe rag!!!!!    BRING BACK HUMPY!!!!

Ok ok ok....we get it, you're wholly disgruntled with the management/committee situation in the town at present but really.....is slabbering on here helping the cause? Let's get real on a few things:

1.  If you want to continue bullying a 21yr old lad who oozes talent and has more hurling skill in his pinky fingernail than you probably have in your whole body then man up and go have a conversation with the chap. No one is arguing that Sauls commitment isn't what we'd like it to be but he's young and influential and bullying him on here sure as hell ain't going to encourage him in the right direction!

2.  'BRING BACK HUMPY'.....go and check your temperature, think you've got a fever and it's making you dilusional! What has he ever achieved as a manager....nothing. There's no track record there, he walked out on us (prior to being sacked) for a paid coaching/management role so don't go on about the money money money, (wee song there!)....when you talk of people who shouldn't be allowed back add Humpy to your list. And go a step further add yourself to the list. Your 'support' is neither wanted nor needed in our club.

Apologies to everyone on this forum, every club has a clown and it seems this ejit is ours *head in hands* :-(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
Ballycastle should do everything they can to work with Saul McCaughan. He is an outrageous talent. Loughgiel could have cast Liam Watson aside on a number of occasions for his attitude and lack of commitment but they didn't. They put the arm round him, looked after him and he paid them back 10 fold. There'd be no 4 in a row and no 2nd All Ireland without him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on August 27, 2017, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
Ballycastle should do everything they can to work with Saul McCaughan. He is an outrageous talent. Loughgiel could have cast Liam Watson aside on a number of occasions for his attitude and lack of commitment but they didn't. They put the arm round him, looked after him and he paid them back 10 fold. There'd be no 4 in a row and no 2nd All Ireland without him.

Your comments are well and good and in theory it is a great idea and would be great for the Town, if it worked, but history shows with many that these exceptionally talented kids or young men bring their own issues.   We have all come across someone in our playing careers that could have been up their with the best with their ability but their own "attitudes" let them down.  If you reach your teenage years and it is still "all about you" then I would say your wasting your time trying to change them no matter how good they are.  In my own experiences a club is better putting time and effort into the players who maybe have less ability but have a good attitude and want to play for the jersey.  IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2017, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 27, 2017, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 27, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
Ballycastle should do everything they can to work with Saul McCaughan. He is an outrageous talent. Loughgiel could have cast Liam Watson aside on a number of occasions for his attitude and lack of commitment but they didn't. They put the arm round him, looked after him and he paid them back 10 fold. There'd be no 4 in a row and no 2nd All Ireland without him.

Your comments are well and good and in theory it is a great idea and would be great for the Town, if it worked, but history shows with many that these exceptionally talented kids or young men bring their own issues.   We have all come across someone in our playing careers that could have been up their with the best with their ability but their own "attitudes" let them down.  If you reach your teenage years and it is still "all about you" then I would say your wasting your time trying to change them no matter how good they are.  In my own experiences a club is better putting time and effort into the players who maybe have less ability but have a good attitude and want to play for the jersey.  IMO

We'll just have to agree to disagree on that then. Whatever chance Ballycastle have of progress they've none without him. He is Ballycastle's stand out player in this generation. Yes he might be a tougher nut to crack than most be an authoritarian attitude with that sort of player never works. It took Jim Nelson to work out the Watson conundrum, Ballycastle just need to find the right man for the job. At the end of the day the lad wanted to play soccer and from all accounts he is passionate about his soccer as well, he wasn't asking to go and sniff coke or drink bottles of whiskey. He just wanted to go and play another sport.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 27, 2017, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
skinny has more good games than bad. but that was a very bad one. Town simply wallpapering over major cracks. we're still a disgrace!! in two weeks time will NMA get his mate the road like the managers before him?  or is all good because he can run the show the way he wants to?  Club mustn't have came up with the few shillings for the money man from the states.  little temperamental toe rag!!!!!    BRING BACK HUMPY!!!!

Ok ok ok....we get it, you're wholly disgruntled with the management/committee situation in the town at present but really.....is slabbering on here helping the cause? Let's get real on a few things:

1.  If you want to continue bullying a 21yr old lad who oozes talent and has more hurling skill in his pinky fingernail than you probably have in your whole body then man up and go have a conversation with the chap. No one is arguing that Sauls commitment isn't what we'd like it to be but he's young and influential and bullying him on here sure as hell ain't going to encourage him in the right direction!

2.  'BRING BACK HUMPY'.....go and check your temperature, think you've got a fever and it's making you dilusional! What has he ever achieved as a manager....nothing. There's no track record there, he walked out on us (prior to being sacked) for a paid coaching/management role so don't go on about the money money money, (wee song there!)....when you talk of people who shouldn't be allowed back add Humpy to your list. And go a step further add yourself to the list. Your 'support' is neither wanted nor needed in our club.

Apologies to everyone on this forum, every club has a clown and it seems this ejit is ours *head in hands* :-(
listen here sonny boy.  i've done more for our club than you'll no. so dont be pissing down my leg and telling me it's raining!! anything i've said is 100% bang on the money.  if you don't like it don't read it. Sauls a lost cause,we're a lost cause, and you haven't a clue if you think different!! How can a coach achieve a 'track record' if he's not let try do his job?  he was stabbed in the back by our players. we haven't one man on the team that could have went and put an issue across to him. all cowards!! rather just backstab him and be done.  he done more for our club than the entire squad put together.wouldnt be hard mind you!!  Saul has never finished anything in his life. he'll eventually walk away from ballycastle soccer for some other team like always. self centered child who needs to grow up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 27, 2017, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 26, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
skinny has more good games than bad. but that was a very bad one. Town simply wallpapering over major cracks. we're still a disgrace!! in two weeks time will NMA get his mate the road like the managers before him?  or is all good because he can run the show the way he wants to?  Club mustn't have came up with the few shillings for the money man from the states.  little temperamental toe rag!!!!!    BRING BACK HUMPY!!!!

Ok ok ok....we get it, you're wholly disgruntled with the management/committee situation in the town at present but really.....is slabbering on here helping the cause? Let's get real on a few things:

1.  If you want to continue bullying a 21yr old lad who oozes talent and has more hurling skill in his pinky fingernail than you probably have in your whole body then man up and go have a conversation with the chap. No one is arguing that Sauls commitment isn't what we'd like it to be but he's young and influential and bullying him on here sure as hell ain't going to encourage him in the right direction!

2.  'BRING BACK HUMPY'.....go and check your temperature, think you've got a fever and it's making you dilusional! What has he ever achieved as a manager....nothing. There's no track record there, he walked out on us (prior to being sacked) for a paid coaching/management role so don't go on about the money money money, (wee song there!)....when you talk of people who shouldn't be allowed back add Humpy to your list. And go a step further add yourself to the list. Your 'support' is neither wanted nor needed in our club.

Apologies to everyone on this forum, every club has a clown and it seems this ejit is ours *head in hands* :-(
listen here sonny boy.  i've done more for our club than you'll no. so dont be pissing down my leg and telling me it's raining!! anything i've said is 100% bang on the money.  if you don't like it don't read it. Sauls a lost cause,we're a lost cause, and you haven't a clue if you think different!! How can a coach achieve a 'track record' if he's not let try do his job?  he was stabbed in the back by our players. we haven't one man on the team that could have went and put an issue across to him. all cowards!! rather just backstab him and be done.  he done more for our club than the entire squad put together.wouldnt be hard mind you!!  Saul has never finished anything in his life. he'll eventually walk away from ballycastle soccer for some other team like always. self centered child who needs to grow up

Ffs get over it....how many years ago are you talking! Respect is a two-way thing, and it's earned not wrapped up as a gift along with an all star award. If Humpy hadn't been guilty of loose talk in pubs about players etc then he might of got some respect but he didn't.

I've no doubt you'll be the first man in the queue to say 'I told you so' if Saul walks away from whatever....I just pray he proves you wrong! 🤞🏼
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 27, 2017, 03:26:13 PM
here fella. id use the prayers for something other than proving me wrong  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 27, 2017, 03:26:13 PM
here fella. id use the prayers for something other than proving me wrong  ::)

😂 Go and have a pint at the fair 🍺
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2017, 03:46:32 PM
Ruairi Og 6-26 Cloughmills 1-10. 3 utter mismatches in 4 games in the senior championship so far this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs

Brilliant for who?

JC is an inter county hurler and three times in the second half had ball in hand inside the 45 yard line and put the ball wide on the same side.

Rossa had enough chances to win the game but couldn't get the execution right when it came down to it.

Tough on them but if they learn and get some commitment from the players they could push on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2017, 08:49:59 PM
Paid into intermediate and Senior games today which I'm happy to do. Going in to Cushendal the gate man laughed and joked with 5 individuals in front of me then let them in free. I was next and asked him was I getting in free too? He tried to bullshit me but I was having none of it. Give him a serious mouthful. I hate handing them my cash with no receipt or accountability. Absolute crook!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs

Brilliant for who?

JC is an inter county hurler and three times in the second half had ball in hand inside the 45 yard line and put the ball wide on the same side.

Rossa had enough chances to win the game but couldn't get the execution right when it came down to it.

Tough on them but if they learn and get some commitment from the players they could push on.
Commitment like the Castle lads have?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 09:51:43 PM
Anyone at st johns dunloy? I know dunloy won but haven't even seen the score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2017, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 09:51:43 PM
Anyone at st johns dunloy? I know dunloy won but haven't even seen the score?

I was well impressed with Dunloy. They are strong from 1 to 15. They clocked up a big score (2.25 or something like that). They'll beat Ballycastle with plenty to spare. They could be very close this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
I would say only a matter of time until they are a force again. Might be sooner than we think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs

Brilliant for who?

JC is an inter county hurler and three times in the second half had ball in hand inside the 45 yard line and put the ball wide on the same side.

Rossa had enough chances to win the game but couldn't get the execution right when it came down to it.

Tough on them but if they learn and get some commitment from the players they could push on.
Commitment like the Castle lads have?

No proper commitment or they will still be beat by the likes of a Ballycastle with very little.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on August 27, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
I would say only a matter of time until they are a force again. Might be sooner than we think.

Definitely. Can't deny them it as they put the work in. They've good coaches throughout the club. Could they win it this year?

I think it's possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 27, 2017, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 27, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
I would say only a matter of time until they are a force again. Might be sooner than we think.

Definitely. Can't deny them it as they put the work in. They've good coaches throughout the club. Could they win it this year?

I think it's possible.
Talking to a couple of lads who were at it and both were impressed. One thought they'd take it this year and the other thinks it's a couple of years too early and the Shams will win it. Both agreed that they're coming!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2017, 10:44:51 PM
The shams seemed to beat them by a bit in the feis but maybe they learnt from it. I would say they will have won at least one by end of this decade though.

5-4 is some scoring for one man in a championship game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2017, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs

Brilliant for who?

JC is an inter county hurler and three times in the second half had ball in hand inside the 45 yard line and put the ball wide on the same side.

Rossa had enough chances to win the game but couldn't get the execution right when it came down to it.

Tough on them but if they learn and get some commitment from the players they could push on.
Commitment like the Castle lads have?

No proper commitment or they will still be beat by the likes of a Ballycastle with very little.

Wel hopefully the castle don't beat Dunloy with the commitment levels they have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on August 27, 2017, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: old timers on August 26, 2017, 11:20:22 PM
HS and JJ your right. Great catching by Connolly and a few others on that Rossa team. Especially two of their backs.  Great to watch but Unless things have changed It's the distribution after the catch that matters but sure you could debate that all day. And the age old debate of people going to America which is becoming more of an issue, it is brilliantthat they do well across the pond or wherever but sure it doesn't do their respective teams any good when they are away but that's nothing new with Antrim hurling clubs

Brilliant for who?

JC is an inter county hurler and three times in the second half had ball in hand inside the 45 yard line and put the ball wide on the same side.

Rossa had enough chances to win the game but couldn't get the execution right when it came down to it.

Tough on them but if they learn and get some commitment from the players they could push on.

And therein lies the problem!  Commitment. With all clubs especially S.A.  JC was an inter county player and could be again but you spoke about commitment and that's your answer. From what iv read on here he too was in America?  Rossa should have taken their scores but didn't.  And that's what the game is about taking your scores not how many catches or wides there were. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2017, 06:14:58 AM
You couldn't help but be impressed with Dunloy's forwards. Their full back line on the other hand let a poor enough St. Johns team stroll through unchallenged and bag three goals. They have improved no question but they are still unproven at Championship level although I expect them to beat Ballycastle handy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 10:20:20 AM
Thats pretty much where we're at. We've plenty to do and we know it but theres much to take heart from. The whole defensive system must share the blame for the goals though lets give some credit to the Johnnies who I thought worked them very well. Overall though our defence hurled very well especially after conceding the goals. Thats what you want to see in your team come championship and we'll need the same attitude against Ballycastle.

Great to be out on a great evening for a change watching the game being played on a great pitch. Some lovely scores taken. Hard luck to the Johnnies
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 28, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2017, 06:14:58 AM
You couldn't help but be impressed with Dunloy's forwards. Their full back line on the other hand let a poor enough St. Johns team stroll through unchallenged and bag three goals. They have improved no question but they are still unproven at Championship level although I expect them to beat Ballycastle handy.

Micheal Dudley was the only player getting a freedom pass
He scored two goals and set up the other
He was a nightmare to mark as he was popping up everywhere
His man could be accused of ball watching but james Mc Keauge and Duffin played well
Cairan johnson from FF was called ashore and Duffin's man didn't do damage
Was very start stop yesterday but a potential banana skin is out of the way
Ballycastle are a wounded animal ATM so not to be taken lightly
Would be great to reach a final

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2017, 10:55:01 AM
Seen highlights of the Rossa game, some well taken scores
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on August 28, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 07:26:49 AM

2.  'BRING BACK HUMPY'.....go and check your temperature, think you've got a fever and it's making you dilusional! What has he ever achieved as a manager....nothing. There's no track record there, he walked out on us (prior to being sacked) for a paid coaching/management role so don't go on about the money money money, (wee song there!)....when you talk of people who shouldn't be allowed back add Humpy to your list. And go a step further add yourself to the list. Your 'support' is neither wanted nor needed in our club.


This looks like a re-writing of history here.

As far as I know Humpy's first coaching\management role since leaving Ballycastle has been with Glenariffe (who approached him) this year. So he didn 't walk out for a paid role anywhere.  And "prior to being sacked"?  First I've heard of it though that may have been the plan.  The same sort of plan that had to be implemented against Raymond.
I think most people know what happened to Humpy & Nander and who was responsible.

What has he achieved? 
Wasn't he involved with Antrim senior hurlers with McKernan when they won the Christy Ring?

Was he not involved with a school Camogie team that won an All-Ireland?

Did he not take Camogie teams to Feile titles and a 7-a-side title?

I'd ask what has any manager achieved with this squad despite having some very talented hurlers.  Michael McShane couldn't achieve anything with them and he had 3 years at it.  And yet he goes to Slaughtneil and turns them into Ulster champions.  Nander goes to Cloughmills and takes them to a championship.

Until attitudes change among some of the players it wouldn't matter if we had Cody and all his backroom team running the show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 28, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
Quote

Until attitudes change among some of the players it wouldn't matter if we had Cody and all his backroom team running the show.


Would you not say this has been an issue for 20 years? There have been a lot of great players but many of them had other distractions, including the high stool.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 28, 2017, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 10:20:20 AM
Thats pretty much where we're at. We've plenty to do and we know it but theres much to take heart from. The whole defensive system must share the blame for the goals though lets give some credit to the Johnnies who I thought worked them very well. Overall though our defence hurled very well especially after conceding the goals. Thats what you want to see in your team come championship and we'll need the same attitude against Ballycastle.

Great to be out on a great evening for a change watching the game being played on a great pitch. Some lovely scores taken. Hard luck to the Johnnies

A fair assessment Skull. You are trotting out the usual stuff someone from Dunloy should say about the upcoming game against Ballycastle given the situation they are in. You might not admit it but you'd be thinking your boys should be beat the town by 7+ given the 1/4 final performances. Interested to hear opinions on ourselves V Loughgiel. A double header would be mighty!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2017, 01:39:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 28, 2017, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 10:20:20 AM
Thats pretty much where we're at. We've plenty to do and we know it but theres much to take heart from. The whole defensive system must share the blame for the goals though lets give some credit to the Johnnies who I thought worked them very well. Overall though our defence hurled very well especially after conceding the goals. Thats what you want to see in your team come championship and we'll need the same attitude against Ballycastle.

Great to be out on a great evening for a change watching the game being played on a great pitch. Some lovely scores taken. Hard luck to the Johnnies

A fair assessment Skull. You are trotting out the usual stuff someone from Dunloy should say about the upcoming game against Ballycastle given the situation they are in. You might not admit it but you'd be thinking your boys should be beat the town by 7+ given the 1/4 final performances. Interested to hear opinions on ourselves V Loughgiel. A double header would be mighty!!

Think it could go either way, they know each other pretty well so it's who's learnt the most from the previous games, won't pick a team (just in case) but the other game will go with form
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
Rossa minors found out to their detriment what happens when you prep that way JJ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on August 28, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
Bumper weekend of Hurling just gone. Two none events in Loughgiel & Dall games from which both will have learned nothing & gained little. Think Cormac Mc Clafferty deserves praise though hitting 5goals in any game is some going. Rossa v Ballycastle was a real scrappy affair where Rossas inability to pull away on the scoreboard when they where dominating cost them dear. Clarke a joy to watch again but Dunloy won't be shaking in their boots & will dispose of BC by 10+ to set up a final against their old foes in the next parish. Really looking forward to Dall v Lgiel won't be a puck of the ball in it but Il go Lgiel by 2.

Any idea on venues & times? Double header would be great although where would host it? With the 4teams involved with the best facilities. If only we had an owenbeg type facility or the likes?...😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 28, 2017, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
Rossa minors found out to their detriment what happens when you prep that way JJ

Ballycastle Minors are a half-decent team, Ballycastle seniors arent.

There will be around 15 points in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 28, 2017, 03:19:21 PM
Ballycastle get beat by Rossa by 13 in the league. It mattered not a jot come Championship. Take a team lightly based on previous days out and you'll get caught
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 28, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
Was at the intermediate semi final between Tir Na Og and Carey. Was a very enjoyable game with some good hurling from both sides at times. Carey had man sent off in the first minute for an off the ball strike but boy did they knuckle down and battle hard. Tir Na Og will rue giving away so many scorable frees. Looking forward to the final and another great game with Carey and Sarsfields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: THINGSTHATNEEDSAID on August 28, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on August 28, 2017, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on August 27, 2017, 07:26:49 AM

2.  'BRING BACK HUMPY'.....go and check your temperature, think you've got a fever and it's making you dilusional! What has he ever achieved as a manager....nothing. There's no track record there, he walked out on us (prior to being sacked) for a paid coaching/management role so don't go on about the money money money, (wee song there!)....when you talk of people who shouldn't be allowed back add Humpy to your list. And go a step further add yourself to the list. Your 'support' is neither wanted nor needed in our club.


This looks like a re-writing of history here.

As far as I know Humpy's first coaching\management role since leaving Ballycastle has been with Glenariffe (who approached him) this year. So he didn 't walk out for a paid role anywhere.  And "prior to being sacked"?  First I've heard of it though that may have been the plan.  The same sort of plan that had to be implemented against Raymond.
I think most people know what happened to Humpy & Nander and who was responsible.

What has he achieved? 
Wasn't he involved with Antrim senior hurlers with McKernan when they won the Christy Ring?

Was he not involved with a school Camogie team that won an All-Ireland?

Did he not take Camogie teams to Feile titles and a 7-a-side title?

I'd ask what has any manager achieved with this squad despite having some very talented hurlers.  Michael McShane couldn't achieve anything with them and he had 3 years at it.  And yet he goes to Slaughtneil and turns them into Ulster champions.  Nander goes to Cloughmills and takes them to a championship.

Until attitudes change among some of the players it wouldn't matter if we had Cody and all his backroom team running the show.
FINALLY another town man that sees and speaks sense. few and far between.cowards of players plotting the exit of managers doesn't sit well with me. then the same coward went and asked Ray only to stab him in the back when things wasn't going well.   wonder will BMA take the team next????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on August 28, 2017, 04:40:31 PM
Any venues decided yet for the senior semi finals? Cdall v lgiel probably be in dunloy on the sunday with bc v dunloy possibly in cushendall on the saturday evening?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2017, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on August 28, 2017, 04:40:31 PM
Any venues decided yet for the senior semi finals? Cdall v lgiel probably be in dunloy on the sunday with bc v dunloy possibly in cushendall on the saturday evening?

Id say those will not be far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on August 29, 2017, 08:45:45 AM
Conor Boyd is lining out for both minors and seniors this year and the minor match is fixed for the same day..... whats the ruling there I wonder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on August 29, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
After 2 miss matches and a poor standard of a game at last the 4th Quarter Final threw up something that was worth watching. St Johns would have beat the pick of BC or Rossa and were unlucky they came up against a good Dunloy side. The introduction of the young players from last years fantastic Minor wining team is massive for the Cuchullians and the emergence of their former keeper as a target man outfield is working well gives them different options going forward. When you put it all together with Shorty lording it round midfield they may be too much for BC and be more than a match for either of the other 2 in the final.

As for the situation in BC the man threw his cap in the ring when nobody else wanted to stand up and walk the walk. He had a decorated carer as an underage hurler for his native club and has coached successfully with BC senior football team as well as u8/u10 hurling within the club. The previos management got BC relegated. He has them in a championship semi-final. Well done to that skitter from Dunloy

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 29, 2017, 12:53:40 PM
What dates are the semi finals expected to be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 29, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
10th of September with the final played on the 24th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 29, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 29, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
10th of September with the final played on the 24th

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on August 29, 2017, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on August 29, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
After 2 miss matches and a poor standard of a game at last the 4th Quarter Final threw up something that was worth watching. St Johns would have beat the pick of BC or Rossa and were unlucky they came up against a good Dunloy side. The introduction of the young players from last years fantastic Minor wining team is massive for the Cuchullians and the emergence of their former keeper as a target man outfield is working well gives them different options going forward. When you put it all together with Shorty lording it round midfield they may be too much for BC and be more than a match for either of the other 2 in the final.

As for the situation in BC the man threw his cap in the ring when nobody else wanted to stand up and walk the walk. He had a decorated carer as an underage hurler for his native club and has coached successfully with BC senior football team as well as u8/u10 hurling within the club. The previos management got BC relegated. He has them in a championship semi-final. Well done to that skitter from Dunloy

I'll second that, making the best of a bad situation. Keep the head up and plough on Gabriel 👍🏼
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 03, 2017, 06:30:39 PM
Any times and venues for next weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 04, 2017, 07:49:22 AM
Heard that dunloy/Ballycastle is in cushendall at 5 on Saturday and the other match is Sunday at 3.30 in dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Ballycastle V Dunloy is in C'Dall on Saturday at 5pm and the Minor semi final between the same 2 teams in a 5pm on Saturday in Waterfoot.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 04, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Ballycastle V Dunloy is in C'Dall on Saturday at 5pm and the Minor semi final between the same 2 teams in a 5pm on Saturday in Waterfoot.  :o

That can't surely be set as final? A joke of a decision if it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2017, 12:25:12 PM
No doubt that'll change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 04, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 04, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 04, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Ballycastle V Dunloy is in C'Dall on Saturday at 5pm and the Minor semi final between the same 2 teams in a 5pm on Saturday in Waterfoot.  :o

That can't surely be set as final? A joke of a decision if it is.

Going by county website
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 04, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
Yeah but it'll change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 04, 2017, 04:33:06 PM
My money is on Dunloy to win the championship they play a lovely brand of hurling. You can tell an ex forward is coaching over them. The way to play low diagonal balls to the forwards. It is the most effective way of playing the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 04, 2017, 05:51:44 PM
Senior Championship semi final predictions

Ballycastle v Dunloy - Dunloy by 5

Loughgiel v Cushendall - Loughgiel by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 04, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
Naomh padraig beating loughgiel in minor semi final... surely that's a shock? 2-16 0-18
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 09:05:48 AM
Senior championship semi final predictions: Dunloy by 11 Cushendall by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 09:05:48 AM
Senior championship semi final predictions: Dunloy by 11 Cushendall by 4

Have not seen Cushendall this year, improved on last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 05, 2017, 10:11:48 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 04, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
Naomh padraig beating loughgiel in minor semi final... surely that's a shock? 2-16 0-18

Not really .... yes LG beat them recently by double scores in the league but they only lost by a point against Ballycastle and by 3 against ourselves earlier in the season ( and only 7 against Rossa). Must have been a discernibly different starting 15 that they put out against them in that league game because they've shown they've been competitive against the top teams in that division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 05, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 05, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
They played us the day after Neil McManus' wedding if I remember correctly.

Not that that matters, we'd stuff them anyway.

Imm sure the match Looked like a scene from  "The hangover 3" 😀
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 05, 2017, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2017, 09:22:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 09:05:48 AM
Senior championship semi final predictions: Dunloy by 11 Cushendall by 4

Have not seen Cushendall this year, improved on last year?

Have they not been away playing challenge matches in the south
Sounds like they are on a mission
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
I'm from Cushendall MR2, I'm hardly gonna predict we are gonna get beat. The truth of the matter is nobody knows who will win. There could be a point in it either way or if one team hits form and the other doesn't there could be 8 in it. An impossible game to predict.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 05, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
I'm from Cushendall MR2, I'm hardly gonna predict we are gonna get beat. The truth of the matter is nobody knows who will win. There could be a point in it either way or if one team hits form and the other doesn't there could be 8 in it. An impossible game to predict.

If these two teams played 10 times I'd say they'd win 5 games each. very fine margins will decide Sundays game. The joys of Championship hurling. Can't wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 05, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
I'm from Cushendall MR2, I'm hardly gonna predict we are gonna get beat. The truth of the matter is nobody knows who will win. There could be a point in it either way or if one team hits form and the other doesn't there could be 8 in it. An impossible game to predict.

Wasn't asking for a prediction, just hadn't seen yas this year and wondered have you improved on last year..

It generally is always tight between both teams so a positive post rather than the usual bigging up the neighbours style post is welcoming !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 05, 2017, 02:11:26 PM
Cushendall & lgiel match could go either way. small margins will decide it, cdall bound to be worth a bet at the prices. any word on the referees for the two matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.

What games are they? great set up, possibly parking the main problem but they open up the fields for that, as long as its not raining!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2017, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.

What games are they? great set up, possibly parking the main problem but they open up the fields for that, as long as its not raining!!

Great set up? parking attrocious and no atmosphere at any game I have been at ever.

The right two venues picked for the matches, looking forward to a good weekend of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.

What games are they? great set up, possibly parking the main problem but they open up the fields for that, as long as its not raining!!

JHC & IHC hurling finals. Yeah, parking can be a problem at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2017, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.

What games are they? great set up, possibly parking the main problem but they open up the fields for that, as long as its not raining!!

Whilst Armoy's sand based pitch is a great surface at this time of year the viewing facilities at the pitch are poor but I suppose it depends on the crowd of people they have to cater for. It might be OK for Junior / Intermediate finals but certainly wouldn't cater for the crowds at the senior S/Finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 10:10:11 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2017, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
Should be a decent double header in Armoy on Saturday week. Good to see a club like that getting rewarded for getting their grounds in order and being welcoming hosts.

What games are they? great set up, possibly parking the main problem but they open up the fields for that, as long as its not raining!!

Whilst Armoy's sand based pitch is a great surface at this time of year the viewing facilities at the pitch are poor but I suppose it depends on the crowd of people they have to cater for. It might be OK for Junior / Intermediate finals but certainly wouldn't cater for the crowds at the senior S/Finals.

I was at the same venue last year for the same double header and viewing wasn't bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2017, 10:12:13 AM
i thought Armoys set up for the U21 final between ourselves and Lgiel was more than good. fields opened up to park in and well marshalled. Was able to stand on the bank and get a good view for the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2017, 10:12:13 AM
i thought Armoys set up for the U21 final between ourselves and Lgiel was more than good. fields opened up to park in and well marshalled. Was able to stand on the bank and get a good view for the match.

I think the walk from changing rooms to pitch for a senior championship games is always going to be a concern for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 06, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Very happy with Armoy as a venue.

As for the atmosphere problem they don't get the really big games, the likes of Loughgiel Vs Cushendall would have an atmosphere no matter where it would be played. Carey vs St.Galls or the JHC would be quite dead, no rivalry and less people care to be quite frank. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 06, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Very happy with Armoy as a venue.

As for the atmosphere problem they don't get the really big games, the likes of Loughgiel Vs Cushendall would have an atmosphere no matter where it would be played. Carey vs St.Galls or the JHC would be quite dead, no rivalry and less people care to be quite frank.

Of course you're happy, most of your lads played on Armoy as a home pitch as underage players I'm sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 06, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The Venue for the JHC and IHC Finals is a disgrsce.

Both Belfast Clubs travelling while the NA teams nip nxt door.

Surely made sense to play them at Ballymena or Randalstown?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 06, 2017, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 06, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The Venue for the JHC and IHC Finals is a disgrsce.

Both Belfast Clubs travelling while the NA teams nip nxt door.

Surely made sense to play them at Ballymena or Randalstown?

Obviously would be fairer on the city teams having the matches in Ballymena or Randalstown but County dont care what is fair. Main reason for having the matches in Armoy is that they will get a bigger crowd there as apposed to Ballymena/R'town. Bigger crowd means more money.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2017, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 06, 2017, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 06, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The Venue for the JHC and IHC Finals is a disgrsce.

Both Belfast Clubs travelling while the NA teams nip nxt door.

Surely made sense to play them at Ballymena or Randalstown?

Obviously would be fairer on the city teams having the matches in Ballymena or Randalstown but County dont care what is fair. Main reason for having the matches in Armoy is that they will get a bigger crowd there as apposed to Ballymena/R'town. Bigger crowd means more money.

Which is required to keep the county operating and functioning?

Or would you rather it was taken to Belfast where still the only people (in the main) there would be from the two NA teams?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
According to Google maps it takes 58 mins to get from Glenarms pitch to Armoy and it takes 1hr 2mins to get from Gort Na Mona to Armoy.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 06, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2017, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 06, 2017, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 06, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The Venue for the JHC and IHC Finals is a disgrsce.

Both Belfast Clubs travelling while the NA teams nip nxt door.

Surely made sense to play them at Ballymena or Randalstown?

Obviously would be fairer on the city teams having the matches in Ballymena or Randalstown but County dont care what is fair. Main reason for having the matches in Armoy is that they will get a bigger crowd there as apposed to Ballymena/R'town. Bigger crowd means more money.

Which is required to keep the county operating and functioning?

Or would you rather it was taken to Belfast where still the only people (in the main) there would be from the two NA teams?

I never said it was wrong to have it at a venue that draws a bigger crowd. I simply stated the reason for it being there in the first place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 06, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2017, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 06, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Very happy with Armoy as a venue.

As for the atmosphere problem they don't get the really big games, the likes of Loughgiel Vs Cushendall would have an atmosphere no matter where it would be played. Carey vs St.Galls or the JHC would be quite dead, no rivalry and less people care to be quite frank.

Of course you're happy, most of your lads played on Armoy as a home pitch as underage players I'm sure.

Right enough, never thought of it like that. Will be as good as a home game for some of our lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 06, 2017, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 06, 2017, 03:12:02 PM
The Venue for the JHC and IHC Finals is a disgrsce.

Both Belfast Clubs travelling while the NA teams nip nxt door.

Surely made sense to play them at Ballymena or Randalstown?

Because us country folks didn't have to traipse to Casement all the feckin time...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 06, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
What way does relegation work if teams tied on points. Is it point difference or does it go on head to head. Carey Armoy and Randlestown will be sweating it out on the last day. Carey have the best points difference at the moment but play table topping St Johns while Armoy and Randlestown go head to head
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 07, 2017, 04:51:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 06, 2017, 11:21:24 PM
What way does relegation work if teams tied on points. Is it point difference or does it go on head to head. Carey Armoy and Randlestown will be sweating it out on the last day. Carey have the best points difference at the moment but play table topping St Johns while Armoy and Randlestown go head to head

If teams finish on even points it's the head to head results.

If Randalstown and Carey lose on last day - Randalstown go down.
If Armoy and Carey lose - Carey go down.
If the three teams draw and Glenariffe lose then that's 4 teams on 11 points and they'll need Fibonacci to carry out the calculations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 08, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Our match moved to Ballycastle

Dunloy in bad shape?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 08, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
Nothing to do with the pitch its the best about. There maybe is another reason that the CCC don't want to make public.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
Moved due to a death in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 08, 2017, 12:25:56 PM
Our match moved to Ballycastle

Dunloy in bad shape?

No double header its seems?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
Moved due to a death in Dunloy

Does it not affect the Dunloy game on the Saturday DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
Moved due to a death in Dunloy

Does it not affect the Dunloy game on the Saturday DR?

Does it matter where the game is played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 08, 2017, 01:47:00 PM
Dunloy game still goes ahead in Cushendall tomorrow at 5pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 01:44:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2017, 01:18:50 PM
Moved due to a death in Dunloy

Does it not affect the Dunloy game on the Saturday DR?

Does it matter where the game is played?

Not sure I follow MR2 - I was just wondering if Sunday's game couldnt go ahead because of a death in the club, that would have put Saturday's in some doubt too?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 08, 2017, 02:01:34 PM
The funeral in Dunloy on Sunday does not effect the Dunloy game directly on Saturday. The problem is the timing of the game as it may clash with the funeral and people paying their respects
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 08, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
Predictions for the weekend

The return of the Prodigal Saul makes me think the Town might squeak it.

Dunloy v Ballycastle      -  Ballycastle by 2

Cushendall v Loughgiel  - Loughgiel by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on September 08, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
Predictions for the weekend

The return of the Prodigal Saul makes me think the Town might squeak it.

Dunloy v Ballycastle      -  Ballycastle by 2

Cushendall v Loughgiel  - Loughgiel by 3


Dunloy by 5/6

Cushendall by 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 08, 2017, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on September 08, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
Predictions for the weekend

The return of the Prodigal Saul makes me think the Town might squeak it.

Dunloy v Ballycastle      -  Ballycastle by 2

Cushendall v Loughgiel  - Loughgiel by 3

Wud luv to share the optimism but I think Dunloy were only getting warmd up against johnnies. Need more than 1 Saul!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 08, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
I might end up with egg on my face but Ballycastle have been brutal all year and I can't see them getting even close to Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2017, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 08, 2017, 10:30:59 PM
I believe Ballycastle penned a letter to the county executive asking for Cunning to referee?

Eh??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 08, 2017, 11:24:58 PM
Considering cunning is a dunloy man I very much doubt that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on September 09, 2017, 07:57:01 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 08, 2017, 11:24:58 PM
Considering cunning is a dunloy man I very much doubt that

I think he was being sarcastic in that Cunning basically gifted the Town the penalty/goal that got them through to SF *yawn*
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 09, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
Every club needs a referee to blame  :)

Ballycastle will take heart from Championship performances against us in recent years and will be going into this game with reputations on the line. Wounded animals are always a danger. They've still got teeth up front so we'll have to go at this game with 100% conviction if we're to get the right side of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 09, 2017, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 09, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
Every club needs a referee to blame  :)

Ballycastle will take heart from Championship performances against us in recent years and will be going into this game with reputations on the line. Wounded animals are always a danger. They've still got teeth up front so we'll have to go at this game with 100% conviction if we're to get the right side of them.
You were sniggering when you wrote that, weren't you? You'd get a job as Brian Cody's speech writer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
1-14 to 0-4 dunloy half tme.

Sounds like a bit of a hammering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 05:50:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
1-14 to 0-4 dunloy half tme.

Sounds like a bit of a hammering.

Sure once they bring on Saul they should stuff them!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
It's been building up like that for Dunloy all year MR2. The young forwards like Keelan Molloy and Coby Cunning have been getting better with every game. They are maturing well. Having Shorty back to full fitness is massive, he is like a new man and was the stand out performer today. They'll be hard stopped now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 09, 2017, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
It's been building up like that for Dunloy all year MR2. The young forwards like Keelan Molloy and Coby Cunning have been getting better with every game. They are maturing well. Having Shorty back to full fitness is massive, he is like a new man and was the stand out performer today. They'll be hard stopped now.
Let the poor mouthing commence!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 09, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners

Need to remember Ballycastle were really poor though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
It's been building up like that for Dunloy all year MR2. The young forwards like Keelan Molloy and Coby Cunning have been getting better with every game. They are maturing well. Having Shorty back to full fitness is massive, he is like a new man and was the stand out performer today. They'll be hard stopped now.

Great to be in a final but the favourites will come from tomorrow's game
first thoughts are with the kid that got knocked down in cargin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners

Need to remember Ballycastle were really poor though

Exactly
I don't know how good that is for preparation for a final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 09, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
17 - 4 at halftime .....Dunloy made 5 subs and took the foot off the gas. Dunloy would really need an intense game next weekend which would be hard to come by this time of year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2017, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
It's been building up like that for Dunloy all year MR2. The young forwards like Keelan Molloy and Coby Cunning have been getting better with every game. They are maturing well. Having Shorty back to full fitness is massive, he is like a new man and was the stand out performer today. They'll be hard stopped now.

Great to be in a final but the favourites will come from tomorrow's game
first thoughts are with the kid that got knocked down in cargin

Tragic news for the child and his family, hopefully he pulls through. Another accident on the stretch of road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners

Need to remember Ballycastle were really poor though

Exactly
I don't know how good that is for preparation for a final

Lads regardless of how Ballycastle performed today Dunloy obviously went to town (no pun intended) previous minor winners for few years and current under 21 winners, add in that experience and it's a great combination, too many big winners and experienced clubmen at the club to let things get out of control but things look familiar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2017, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners
It's been building up like that for Dunloy all year MR2. The young forwards like Keelan Molloy and Coby Cunning have been getting better with every game. They are maturing well. Having Shorty back to full fitness is massive, he is like a new man and was the stand out performer today. They'll be hard stopped now.

Great to be in a final but the favourites will come from tomorrow's game
first thoughts are with the kid that got knocked down in cargin

Tragic news for the child and his family, hopefully he pulls through. Another accident on the stretch of road.

+1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 09, 2017, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 09, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 09, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Dunloy v Ballycastle. I hate to say I told you so but...

On a scoreline like that they will be hard enough to for tomorrow's winners

Need to remember Ballycastle were really poor though

Exactly
I don't know how good that is for preparation for a final

Lads regardless of how Ballycastle performed today Dunloy obviously went to town (no pun intended) previous minor winners for few years and current under 21 winners, add in that experience and it's a great combination, too many big winners and experienced clubmen at the club to let things get out of control but things look familiar

Hard to tell from the game the level that Dunloy are at, the town were atrocious.

Dunloy dominated early exchanges and probably killed off the any little confidence that BC had.

Some lovely scores in the first half second half a non event.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2017, 09:34:47 AM
Ballycastle pitch dodgy for today. Possible venue change coming.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2017, 09:51:19 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 10, 2017, 09:34:47 AM
Ballycastle pitch dodgy for today. Possible venue change coming.

Where else could they go to? Creggan? Saw games called off in Glenravel and Ahoghill this weekend. Move it to 4.30 and play in Dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2017, 10:16:00 AM
Cushendall pitch could taken another game!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 10, 2017, 11:17:13 AM
Confirmed for Ballycastle at 3.30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
Not going to be pleasant.  Heavy rain forecast most of afternoon though it's still dry here and rain was forecast for now.   It's also fairly breezy.

As for yesterday that was pretty disappointing but I suppose it was a bit delusional to think that a month of taking training seriously would be sufficient to trouble a fully committed, talented Dunloy team. 

The rain has now arrived (11:45).  Knocklayde's invisible.  Bring your wets lads!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2017, 05:01:20 PM
C'Dall well worth the victory, hit 7/8 wides into the bargin and had perfectly good point ruled out. How the linesman couldn't see I dunno..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 05:06:11 PM
My predictions as good as the BBC's weather forecast  ;D

Congratulations Cushendall & Dunloy.  Good luck in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 10, 2017, 06:26:36 PM
Delighted with that performance. Defence was awesome. Hard luck to Loughgiel they fought like champions it was just our day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
Interesting final  not a "traditional" rivalry.  How often have they met?  Can remember 1 time the Dall beating Dunloy in a final but that's maybe 20 years ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2017, 08:53:26 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
Interesting final  not a "traditional" rivalry.  How often have they met?  Can remember 1 time the Dall beating Dunloy in a final but that's maybe 20 years ago?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrim_Senior_Hurling_Championship (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antrim_Senior_Hurling_Championship)

Looks like only one final - 99. Not far off 20 years.

Edit - 2009 too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 09:02:23 PM
good link

so  as far as I can see 3 meetings

2009  Dunloy win
2002 Dunloy win
!999 Dall win

Dall have it all to do!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 09:02:23 PM
good link

so  as far as I can see 3 meetings

2009  Dunloy win
2002 Dunloy win
!999 Dall win

Dall have it all to do!

So going by your track record of predictions.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 10, 2017, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on September 10, 2017, 09:02:23 PM
good link

so  as far as I can see 3 meetings

2009  Dunloy win
2002 Dunloy win
!999 Dall win

Dall have it all to do!

So going by your track record of predictions.....

hmmmmmm  OK I'll take that lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2017, 09:08:17 PM
Dall still favourites with more experience but, despite what skull may say ;), a dunloy win wouldn't be a surprise.

I would say dunloy are outsiders for this in the same way cushendall were in 99 so you just wouldn't know.

Dall any time i have seen them last few years always struggle with nigel elliot's direct running too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 10, 2017, 09:47:27 PM
I thought Cdall looked pretty sharp today- their backs in particular did very little wrong with Ryan mcCambridge, SD, Graffin and Kearney all prominent.  Up front they just weren't as sharp and were very reliant on Mcgill and McManus.  Looking back it's hard to understand how they only won by a point as they were on top most of the game.

Final hard to call. That bit more experience could make the difference
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 10, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Cushendall will take heart from Championship performances against us in recent years and will be going into this game with reputations intact. Wounded animals they are not. We'll have to go at this game with 100% conviction if we're to get the right side of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2017, 11:43:17 PM
Strange game in that the Dall had better touch for most parts, dominance, intensity and looked like winning but could not shake Loughgiel at all! The weather probably suited the more physical team.

Loughgiel needed that goal in the first half with the wind to win the game, it never came nor looked like coming... dogged Cushendall defence, I think if Cushendall had two pacy forwards they'd be a big force... fair play Loughgiel who didn't play that well but used all their experience to keep in touch till the final seconds..

Anyone's final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
I dunno about you but i'd feel a bit hard done by if I was told I was in a relegation play off before any games were played ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
I dunno about you but i'd feel a bit hard done by if I was told I was in a relegation play off before any games were played ;D

I just find those posts daft! the league was won and lost over all the games not the last one, if you've played yourself into that position then that's that.. Looking at the result of that game there was 3 points in it, so did that 'point' make a difference after all? also their head to head with Armoy also sealed their fate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2017, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

Kearney was the pick of both teams, had a seriously strong game.

Was a strange game in a lot of ways but the better team did win. The 'point' that wasnt was a wide, correct decision reached in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2017, 10:08:24 AM
thought that we played well despite BC being poor. The game was effectively over at half time and even with the wind behind them in the second half Ballycastle couldn't get going at all. Happy with our performance and what subs we brought on all played well and contributed to the performance.

That being said we will need a big performance to beat Cdall. They have a superb defence though up front they struggled against that Lgiel defence. Its has all the buildings for a great final.

Honestly imo we start as outsiders but im quietly confident that we can win it. Its all dependant on everyone playing well on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2017, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I though he did a great job yday. very tough physical game played in poor conditions and he handled it really well.

Fionntan did the same on sat in our game. Probably fav to get the final now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

On the pitch? you play for Loughgiel or the Dall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2017, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

Sure the umpires didn't know if it was over
Maybe some of the experts on here where in line with ball flight and the post
DD waved it wide and confusion reined
Skinny couldn't give it then
I thought it was over but no harm as it didn't impact the result
It's no biggy
Officials did well on both matches
Funniest moment the ref telling shorty he was playing the wrong way when he wasn't

Looking forward to final
Best defensive team against our forwards
Hope it dries up a bit as it will suit us better
I think cushendall will deploy sweeper breezy or not
They look like Waterford at the minute
Very light on good forwards so nullify opponents forwards and build from the back

Cushendall are quite rightly favourite but I still think we could win this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 11, 2017, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
I dunno about you but i'd feel a bit hard done by if I was told I was in a relegation play off before any games were played ;D

I just find those posts daft! the league was won and lost over all the games not the last one, if you've played yourself into that position then that's that.. Looking at the result of that game there was 3 points in it, so did that 'point' make a difference after all? also their head to head with Armoy also sealed their fate
They are probably hoping the possible proposal to keep Ballycastle in Division 1 will get through. For me I would be completely against it. No more tinkering. At the end of the season each team reaps what they sow over the entire season. St.Johns proposed the same last year and never got a look in however they have done it the right way and will be back where they belong next year.
Statements like "it would be awful for Antrim hurling if Ballycastle are not in Division 1." are ridiculous.
If it goes forward it will be interesting if the principle of merit prevails over politics.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

On the pitch? you play for Loughgiel or the Dall?

I was right behind the flight of the ball on the terrace. I had a perfect view of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

On the pitch? you play for Loughgiel or the Dall?

I was right behind the flight of the ball on the terrace. I had a perfect view of it.

Well I'm looking a good man with great sight for Sat, see you at Glenariffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

On the pitch? you play for Loughgiel or the Dall?

I was right behind the flight of the ball on the terrace. I had a perfect view of it.

Well I'm looking a good man with great sight for Sat, see you at Glenariffe

Time? I'm already on duty on Saturday!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:38:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:30:14 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 11, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Terrible conditions yesterday but Cushendall deserved the win. Couldnt believe Loughgiel allowed Eoghan Campbell to sit back in front of the full back line with no1 marking him. he cleared serious ball and thats were they got most of their scores from. should have been pushing up on him especially in the last 10/15 minutes! McGill very accurate with ball in hand, him and McManus both hit some big scores in the second half.

McGill was very good yesterday, won alot of dirty ball. David Kearney was my MOTM, he was superb!  Thought Skinny was good yesterday, kept a tight lid on it although there wasn't a dirty stroke. That point that was flagged wide could of came back to bite him!

The referee was right behind the ball, spoke to his umpires and to be fair the Cushendall line never complained that much, good call, plus he was closer and had a much better view than most experts on here

Refereeing was very good, impressed with the talking to players and the game flowed considering the conditions... very professional

I was right behind it and I still maintain it was a point! lol

On the pitch? you play for Loughgiel or the Dall?

I was right behind the flight of the ball on the terrace. I had a perfect view of it.

Well I'm looking a good man with great sight for Sat, see you at Glenariffe

Time? I'm already on duty on Saturday!

It says 5 pm but I'm not entirely sure!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
LG posters gone very quiet, just wondering does yesterday signal a bit of a changing of the guard now.

I cant see a few of their older lads going for another year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
LG posters gone very quiet, just wondering does yesterday signal a bit of a changing of the guard now.

I cant see a few of their older lads going for another year.

I thought Loughgiel didn't play as well as they could but could have got a draw, maybe on a drier day the result could have been different, as their handling in the first half was poor for their standard?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 11, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
LG posters gone very quiet, just wondering does yesterday signal a bit of a changing of the guard now.

I cant see a few of their older lads going for another year.

I thought Loughgiel didn't play as well as they could but could have got a draw, maybe on a drier day the result could have been different, as their handling in the first half was poor for their standard?

Agreed
There greasy ball handling was below their usual standard
LG thrive on space even from the puck outs
A mixture of wind and Dall tight marking and sweeper cancelled out their customary 4 to 6 points from puc outs
Dall had their homework done for sure
And wouldn't let them settle
Great tackling picking up the spare man
Conditions suited them better
I would be hoping for a fast dry pitch for the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 11, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
Dunloy hit 2 massive scores against St. John's and Ballycastle. We only managed 0-13 in the semi final. Dunloy favorites surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 11, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
Dont think we need to go back and forth on picking faux favourites, both teams will feel they can win for different reasons. This makes it even more intriguing.

Also there would have to be some serious concerns over the standard/ form of some of our county players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 11, 2017, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
Dunloy hit 2 massive scores against St. John's and Ballycastle. We only managed 0-13 in the semi final. Dunloy favorites surely?
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2017, 01:29:01 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 11, 2017, 12:00:29 PM
Dunloy hit 2 massive scores against St. John's and Ballycastle. We only managed 0-13 in the semi final. Dunloy favorites surely?

;D against a div 2 side and one relegated to Div 2. Sure use beat the best team in Antrim.

Cushendall are overwhelming favourites, get your mortgage on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
But Dunloy are the Under 21 champs also, Cushendall have made it to Croke park though recently and level on points at the top of the league, a whole point more than Dunloy!! though Dunlo do have a better scoring return !! ;D

The mind boggles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 01:40:41 PM
Were will the final be? Ballycastle or maybe Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:45:39 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 11, 2017, 01:40:41 PM
Were will the final be? Ballycastle or maybe Loughgiel?


I'd say it has to be Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

I think the main thing needs changing is the 3/4 league, everything else seems fine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 11, 2017, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

We put out a dud team every game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 11, 2017, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

We put out a dud team every game

Except championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 03:41:43 PM
if I was making the calls I would go back to 10 team leagues

for me the top 2 in division 2 are too good for the rest.. I would promote them 2 and relegate none from division 1

the top 4 in division 3 are also too good for the rest... I would promote them 4 and relegate none from division 2

then all the rest stay in division 3. senior, intermediate and junior league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 11, 2017, 04:04:44 PM
Too many games for dual clubs is one big issue with that number in the league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2017, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:39:32 PM
But Dunloy are the Under 21 champs also, Cushendall have made it to Croke park though recently and level on points at the top of the league, a whole point more than Dunloy!! though Dunlo do have a better scoring return !! ;D

The mind boggles

Haha its all to do with the lunar alignments i tell yeh!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 11, 2017, 07:07:55 PM
Is Corrigan the official county grounds this year
I thought ballycastle gave it up because their pitch was suffering
Will the final not have to be on county designated ground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 11, 2017, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

I think the main thing needs changing is the 3/4 league, everything else seems fine

The 3/4 league is a disgrace and does nothing but hurt the weakest clubs in the county, absolute madness to even try it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 11, 2017, 04:04:44 PM
Too many games for dual clubs is one big issue with that number in the league


well what about having a split and going into a division 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b scenario like the football. more than likely keeps the leagues interesting right until the end.

also all division 3/4 clubs played 16 league games this years. 10 team leagues would mean 2 more without a split or 3 less with a split.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 11, 2017, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 11, 2017, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

I think the main thing needs changing is the 3/4 league, everything else seems fine

The 3/4 league is a disgrace and does nothing but hurt the weakest clubs in the county, absolute madness to even try it

Really? I don't agree with how it came about and I don't think it should ever have happened but I don't think it was that big a disaster. The teams that like LochMor Gaels would have been hammered week in week out had it just been div 4. Most of the teams were competitive enough and there were a couple who would have been div 4 that more than held their own against some of the Div 3 teams and finished comfortable in the top half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 11, 2017, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

'Good authority'. Total bullshit. Based on the evidence of the last numerous years, no one could possibly predict how the leagues might look next year. Carey are some mugs if they took that approach based on anyones authority. Maybe they just took a gamble that they might change which is just about the same as basing it on someone's good authority
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 11, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Maybe they have a championship final on Saturday and don't want to risk injuries!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one

The officiating from the referee was shocking was my point. Taking 6 minutes to decide if a score was or wasn't .....I've never seen anything like it!! You're right about the results over the course of a season. However if Carey people had witnessed the last few minutes they'd have been bewildered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 11, 2017, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: podge on September 11, 2017, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 11, 2017, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
Apparently carey put out a dud team yesterday as they have it on good word that leagues are being changed.

I think the main thing needs changing is the 3/4 league, everything else seems fine

The 3/4 league is a disgrace and does nothing but hurt the weakest clubs in the county, absolute madness to even try it

Really? I don't agree with how it came about and I don't think it should ever have happened but I don't think it was that big a disaster. The teams that like LochMor Gaels would have been hammered week in week out had it just been div 4. Most of the teams were competitive enough and there were a couple who would have been div 4 that more than held their own against some of the Div 3 teams and finished comfortable in the top half.

Think about the teams in the middle where they would be building up to a league win but instead 4 teams with a point between them in the end, but sure what's the point when you'll get no more plaudits for coming 10th or 11th. The likes of Loch Mor must have found it hard to keep interest in going out to certain annihilation instead of the hope to give someone a bloody nose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one

The officiating from the referee was shocking was my point. Taking 6 minutes to decide if a score was or wasn't .....I've never seen anything like it!! You're right about the results over the course of a season. However if Carey people had witnessed the last few minutes they'd have been bewildered.

Granted on the time of deciding the score, from my own experience using home and away umpires is difficult and in tight games I try my level best to get behind the ball and call it myself, for a lot of scores it's impossible but you try your best.

I've overruled many an umpire basing it purely on my positioning, I explain it and move on . I speak to the umpires at half time or at the end and explain, very difficult to not give your team a dodgy point!

I've even had grounds where they have changed scores on the board !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2017, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 11, 2017, 06:31:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
Carey took some beating from St Johns and get relegated after Randlestown's comeback against Armoy. Was anyone at the St Johns v Carey game? Did they rest players for next week? Taking a beating like that just before championship final surely can't be good for them. Sarsfields maybe favourites going into it.

There was a 6 minute delay at the very end of the Armoy game while the referee decided if a shot was wide or a point. After ignoring advice to go with the near umpire and stating himself that "my instinct was it was wide" he in very peculiar circumstances gave a point. This was one of 3 bizarre incidents from him in the last 4 minutes. If I were a Carey member I'd be absolutely furious.....it relegated them after Armoy leading the entire game......I've never seen anything like it.

Surely how you perform over the season decides whether out not you are relegated? Didn't realise that the last game is winner takes all.. why play all those games? Just play one

The officiating from the referee was shocking was my point. Taking 6 minutes to decide if a score was or wasn't .....I've never seen anything like it!! You're right about the results over the course of a season. However if Carey people had witnessed the last few minutes they'd have been bewildered.

Granted on the time of deciding the score, from my own experience using home and away umpires is difficult and in tight games I try my level best to get behind the ball and call it myself, for a lot of scores it's impossible but you try your best.

I've overruled many an umpire basing it purely on my positioning, I explain it and move on . I speak to the umpires at half time or at the end and explain, very difficult to not give your team a dodgy point!

I've even had grounds where they have changed scores on the board !

The poor guy just buckled under pressure. His big mistake was stating "my instinct was it was wide"....then giving a point. I think the best way is to go to the umpire closest to the ball.

Unfortunately we've no solution to club umpires in league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 11, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Cushendall 1/4 dunloy 5/2

As it stands Cushendall win that game 8 times out of 10 in my opinion
Think sarsfields will account for carey ok
As for the junior game it's the hardest of the three to call. Glenarm to just edge it... maybe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2017, 10:13:10 AM
About Sunday.....better team on the day won. Cushendall's wayward shooting kept us within touching distance until the death.

Its disappointing and I'm sure the lads feel they didn't do themselves justice with too many below par performances on the day but hats of to Cushendall who fought for every ball.

Best of luck to them and Dunloy in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 12, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: faughs on September 11, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Maybe they have a championship final on Saturday and don't want to risk injuries!

I wasn't having a go at Carey by the way- fully understand why they would hold players back . I do challenge the suggestion that there is such a thing as a 'good authority' when it comes to what next years league might look like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 12, 2017, 10:33:04 PM
Will the Armoy pitch be able to take the 2 finals on Saturday. Was a mud bath on Sunday and the weather won't be improving anytime soon.

Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 3
Glenarm v Gort Na Mona - Glenarm by 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 13, 2017, 06:12:16 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 12, 2017, 10:33:04 PM
Will the Armoy pitch be able to take the 2 finals on Saturday. Was a mud bath on Sunday and the weather won't be improving anytime soon.

Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 3
Glenarm v Gort Na Mona - Glenarm by 6

Think your being a bit sore on Ballycastle who had their pitch in good shape given the rain. It was soggy in the corner down at the pavilion but the rest of it held up very well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2017, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 13, 2017, 06:12:16 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 12, 2017, 10:33:04 PM
Will the Armoy pitch be able to take the 2 finals on Saturday. Was a mud bath on Sunday and the weather won't be improving anytime soon.

Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 3
Glenarm v Gort Na Mona - Glenarm by 6

Think your being a bit sore on Ballycastle who had their pitch in good shape given the rain. It was soggy in the corner down at the pavilion but the rest of it held up very well.

Agree, was hardly a mudbath apart from the bottom corner.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
I'm talking about Armoys pitch not Ballycastles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
the only pitches that are playable at the moment are sand based ones. How many of them are there in the county that could be used as a venue for a county final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 11:22:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 13, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
the only pitches that are playable at the moment are sand based ones. How many of them are there in the county that could be used as a venue for a county final?

Queens with a covered stand could certainly do the Football final... Corrigan is in good nick lads, I know yas hate coming over the border
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 13, 2017, 11:27:59 AM
there's no chance the final will be held in queen's. Corrigan or if they are staying local loughgiel or ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 13, 2017, 12:07:17 PM
It would make no sense at all for the CCC to fix the game in Belfast with 2 teams from the country involved though that said more than likely going by their performance all year regarding fixtures the game will be in Corrigan

Hopefully for all Dunloy/Dall fans concerned the game will be in Loughguille its the best venue after Dunloy down the country for a game of this stature.

On the result its self they say the bookies are never wrong but they will be in this one with the green and gold back at the top and staying there for years to come
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2017, 01:42:16 PM
We have to assume this wheather is going to persist
If that's the case and a venue has to be disclosed soon where is the best option
Have to agree on dunloy odds
I think we have improved in the last few weeks
Dall right to be favourites but not by much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 13, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
Armoy vs Randalstown was played in Randalstown so wouldn't have effected Armoy's pitch  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 13, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
There is No Plan B. Both games going ahead at Armoy on Sat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 13, 2017, 03:34:19 PM
a day is a long time in antrim gaa... I could see one of the games being moved if the pitch isn't looking good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 13, 2017, 03:39:04 PM
Would it not be an idea to do that now? Let clubs and supporters know in advance, rather than on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
So what's the predictions for the games. Who will be crowned intermediate and Junior champions.
I've already went for Sarsfields by 3 and Glenarm by 6. Looking forward to 2 good games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2017, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
So what's the predictions for the games. Who will be crowned intermediate and Junior champions.
I've already went for Sarsfields by 3 and Glenarm by 6. Looking forward to 2 good games.

Sarsfields by 2 and Gort Na Mona by 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
So what's the predictions for the games. Who will be crowned intermediate and Junior champions.
I've already went for Sarsfields by 3 and Glenarm by 6. Looking forward to 2 good games.

6 for Glenarm? That's a bold prediction
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 13, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
News just in: Senior final is in ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2017, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
So what's the predictions for the games. Who will be crowned intermediate and Junior champions.
I've already went for Sarsfields by 3 and Glenarm by 6. Looking forward to 2 good games.

6 for Glenarm? That's a bold prediction

Be bad news for gorts if they couldn't win Junior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 13, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
News just in: Senior final is in ballycastle

No surprise to be honest holds a good crowd and everyone can see the match! Weather is just crap at the moment just need a 10 days of dry weather for a change
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 11:30:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2017, 04:27:47 PM
So what's the predictions for the games. Who will be crowned intermediate and Junior champions.
I've already went for Sarsfields by 3 and Glenarm by 6. Looking forward to 2 good games.

6 for Glenarm? That's a bold prediction

I've seen Glenarm a few times this year and they have impressed me each time. In the semi final against Glenravel they weren't great in the first half but in the second half they were like a new team. Only criticism i would have is they sometimes overplay the ball instead of taking the point. I could be well wrong with my prediction saturday will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2017, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 13, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
News just in: Senior final is in ballycastle

No surprise to be honest holds a good crowd and everyone can see the match! Weather is just crap at the moment just need a 10 days of dry weather for a change

Get the child of Prague statue outside the front door!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 13, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
Could get the Tyrone team up to say a decade or two
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2017, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
Could get the Tyrone team up to say a decade or two

Sure if its works then happy days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 14, 2017, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2017, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 13, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
Could get the Tyrone team up to say a decade or two

Sure if its works then happy days.

Conditions I would say will not change drastically under foot from those in the semi final conditions in Ballycastle, might be slightly drier but not by much.

I wonder if they cut the grass shorter would it help the pace of the games there? Always seems so slow, maybe perception.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 14, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
My money would be on a Gort na mona and Sarsfields double..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 05:16:03 PM
Boylesports have priced up the Intermediate final.

Sarsfields 4/9
Draw 9/1
Carey 15/8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 05:16:03 PM
Boylesports have priced up the Intermediate final.

Sarsfields 4/9
Draw 9/1
Carey 15/8

Div 3 team v a div 2 team ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Paddy Power have it priced up now

Sarsfields 11/10
Draw 9/1
Carey 4/5

Some difference with Boyles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Paddy Power have it priced up now

Sarsfields 11/10
Draw 9/1
Carey 4/5

Some difference with Boyles
That's a better price
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 14, 2017, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Paddy Power have it priced up now

Sarsfields 11/10
Draw 9/1
Carey 4/5

Some difference with Boyles
That's a better price

With the discrepancies in prices you are on a no lose possibility.
Total bet £18, £10 on Sarsfields at 11/10, total returns if a win = £21
                          £8 on Carey at 15/8, total returns if Carey win = £23
Therefore, profit either way. Free money?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: blindside on September 14, 2017, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: ned on September 14, 2017, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Paddy Power have it priced up now

Sarsfields 11/10
Draw 9/1
Carey 4/5

Some difference with Boyles
That's a better price

With the discrepancies in prices you are on a no lose possibility.
Total bet £18, £10 on Sarsfields at 11/10, total returns if a win = £21
                          £8 on Carey at 15/8, total returns if Carey win = £23
Therefore, profit either way. Free money?

What about a draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 14, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: blindside on September 14, 2017, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: ned on September 14, 2017, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 14, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
Paddy Power have it priced up now

Sarsfields 11/10
Draw 9/1
Carey 4/5

Some difference with Boyles
That's a better price

With the discrepancies in prices you are on a no lose possibility.
Total bet £18, £10 on Sarsfields at 11/10, total returns if a win = £21
                          £8 on Carey at 15/8, total returns if Carey win = £23
Therefore, profit either way. Free money?

What about a draw

Oops! Good job I didn't bet the house!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
Not involved in this game, haven't seen Carey this year but they have been involved in latter stages of the intermediate championship and have not got over the line recently so will they manage to put a poor enough league campaign behind them to knock out a result in the final against a team that had a great league campaign and have a few county players but have underperformed in championship for many years... my money would be on a Sarsfields win by 3 or 4 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 14, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
Big difference in standards in the leagues so it's not the full story to say Carey were poor and Sars were great. Carey still a very young team with a large number having final experience albeit losing which will stand to them. Carey by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 15, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 14, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
Big difference in standards in the leagues so it's not the full story to say Carey were poor and Sars were great. Carey still a very young team with a large number having final experience albeit losing which will stand to them. Carey by 2

It will be close. This will be the hardest test, Sarsfields are team on a good run of form and I cant see them crumble like the other teams we have faced in the Championship thus far. I hope we can put the final hoodoo to bed and not bottle it like previous years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.

He'll be playing alright. Only suffered a dislocated finger in our game, unless something happened him in the mean time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 15, 2017, 11:12:55 AM
He hasn't lifted a hurl since. He wont play tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2017, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.

He'll be playing alright. Only suffered a dislocated finger in our game, unless something happened him in the mean time.

Dislocated my shoulder dozens of times, pop it back it play on!! Kids nowadays eh??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 11:45:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2017, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.


He'll be playing alright. Only suffered a dislocated finger in our game, unless something happened him in the mean time.

Dislocated my shoulder dozens of times, pop it back it play on!! Kids nowadays

I'm surprised at that. One of the most common injuries I've seen in our squad in the last few years. Pop it back in support with some tape and play on. His must be particularly bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 15, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2017, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.

He'll be playing alright. Only suffered a dislocated finger in our game, unless something happened him in the mean time.

Dislocated my shoulder dozens of times, pop it back it play on!! Kids nowadays eh??

I heard the bone went through his skin, maybe just a rumour
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 15, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
Yeap bone went through skin and still no movement in the finger.

He wont play remainder of this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2017, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 15, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
Yeap bone went through skin and still no movement in the finger.

He wont play remainder of this year.

Ah, now that is shit!! He'll be fine for the Ulster campaign  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 12:10:37 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 15, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2017, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 15, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Sarsfields to win handy. The club has got itself back in a good place  this year with the footballers only needing to turn up to win the junior. 12/13 players involved in both codes and have only lost 1 game between football/hurling in both league and championship this season. Carey on the other hand have put all their eggs in one basket hoping that the league will be re-structured to retain their league status and focused on championship. Sarsfields by 6 or 7 with the only thing that may give Carey a squeak is the injury Niall McKenna is carrying and he is rated as 50/50 to play but I would be very surprised if he doesn't make an appearance he is  a class act on his day.

He'll be playing alright. Only suffered a dislocated finger in our game, unless something happened him in the mean time.

Dislocated my shoulder dozens of times, pop it back it play on!! Kids nowadays eh??

I heard the bone went through his skin, maybe just a rumour
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 15, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
Yeap bone went through skin and still no movement in the finger.

He wont play remainder of this year.
Thats a pity, have seen similar injury and a lad back playing within 2 weeks albeit with the finger taped up, clearly just lucky. Disappointing for him to miss the final, a fine hurler who would only add to the spectacle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 15, 2017, 01:43:04 PM
Carey to edge it, conditions will play a big part in the game and think carey will deal with them better! McKenna a big loss for Sarsefields
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 15, 2017, 01:48:14 PM
I have no doubt he will be playing, seen the same crap on here every year around champ time - xxxx isn't playing , xxxxx is injured

Suspect the pitch is going to be a bog given all the rain - one of the matches is bound to be moved elsewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2017, 12:24:04 PM
Hopefully Sarsfields come into the game with the right attitude, Carey won't be a push over, Carey are due a win and have dispatched good teams along the way and played in higher division so the closer this gets to throw in the more it's a fifty fifty game! Good luck to both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 14, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
My money would be on a Gort na mona and Sarsfields double..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 16, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 14, 2017, 02:57:29 PM
My money would be on a Gort na mona and Sarsfields double..

Sarsfields were seriously impressive - 6 points didn't do justice to the scoreline. 2 disallowed goals by Cunning on top of that.
Their running was a joy to watch. How many yellow cards did Cunning hand out?? He seemed to enjoy the attention.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 16, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
Gort nearly let their dominant display slip at the end too. They should have been out of sight. Desy McClean hit a load of wides but given the conditions you can't blame him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:52:28 PM
Dryer day Sarsfields would have been well out of sight, speed and passing was something else. Carey goal keeper kept us in it. Cunning gave a few soft frees and was a bit card happy. Square ball calls disallowing two goals where debatable in my opinion.

Glenarm kept going for goals, could have won in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 16, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on September 16, 2017, 05:52:28 PM
Dryer day Sarsfields would have been well out of sight, speed and passing was something else. Carey goal keeper kept us in it. Cunning gave a few soft frees and was a bit card happy. Square ball calls disallowing two goals where debatable in my opinion.

Glenarm kept going for goals, could have won in the last few minutes.

Hard to argue there. He gave 3 square balls - 2 called from the halfway line. He's very arrogant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 16, 2017, 07:13:58 PM
Glenarm never turned up for 50 minutes. Gort never took full advantage with some bad wides especially from frees in the first half. Second half Glenarm kept dropping the ball in with no luck till the last 5 minutes. If they had put these chances they could have well snatched an underserved win. Gort well deserving winners

Sarsfields were so much better than Carey and they played some lovely hurling. The second disallowed goal should never have been disallowed. They always seemed to have an extra player even before Carey's red card and in better conditions they would have won by a lot more.

Conditions weren't great at all but well done to the players on all 4 teams who battled and gave it there all and for all the fans who stood in the downpours was a decent crowd.

Lastly the standard or refereeing in both games was poor with a lot of soft frees being given
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 17, 2017, 02:43:06 AM
Sarsfields were thoroughly deserving winners. Forwards were fantastic and defence rock solid.

Lot of off the ball niggling and dirt not seen by cunning and fair play as that cuteness made a difference, but wouldn't have changed the outcome, disaponting none the less especially the sending off.

Would like to wish sarsfields all the best in ulster but the conduct and lack and of sportsmanship from both players and supporters alike leaves a sour taste.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
Jesus! Lads it was a final both games the lads are hyped up and trying to bring a title back to their clubs! Course there will be a win at all cost attitude by some and that won't sit well with everyone but it's over and the 2 best teams on the day won.

as for the refs lads give it a break, best referees about doing the final so ya can't argue that one ffs! Be some disappointed posters here though... two Belfast teams winning for flip sake!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 17, 2017, 08:20:22 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 17, 2017, 02:43:06 AM
Sarsfields were thoroughly deserving winners. Forwards were fantastic and defence rock solid.

Lot of off the ball niggling and dirt not seen by cunning and fair play as that cuteness made a difference, but wouldn't have changed the outcome, disaponting none the less especially the sending off.

Would like to wish sarsfields all the best in ulster but the conduct and lack and of sportsmanship from both players and supporters alike leaves a sour taste.

Watched most of the first game and all of the second and all things considered the refereeing was more than acceptable. Not happy with referees......go be a referee.
As far as the niggling was concerned I suppose they were smarting over the fact of having to come to Armoy for the game and Keevo built a bit of extra hype around it. What you needed to understand that they were always going to get on like this and through all the snarling and nipping there is no real menace, none. Any of their players that should have seen a red card? I didn't see it. So taking all that nonsense as an irrelevance the Paddies were deserving winners by the standard of hurling they produced on the day.
Good luck to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Lot of people at the final yesterday felt he had a very negative impact on the game. With the early penalty, the square ball calls from distance, the amount of yellow cards given out? What are your thoughts on those 3 things, PJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
All the umpires and lines men are hooked up to mica and the ref talks the whole time.... 7 sets of eyes watching the game, not a lot being missed I'd say. As for the distance on square balls I'd say he was a lot closer than you but you're able to call it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
All the umpires and lines men are hooked up to mica and the ref talks the whole time.... 7 sets of eyes watching the game, not a lot being missed I'd say. As for the distance on square balls I'd say he was a lot closer than you but you're able to call it.

I wasn't able to call it - not once have I said otherwise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:22:20 PM
So he was closer than you and made a decision, what's your problem then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:22:20 PM
So he was closer than you and made a decision, what's your problem then?

How do you know he was closer than me?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
For starters his umpires were closer. And at worst he'd have been 40/50 yards from the edge of square, you are outside the perimeter of the fence and unless you were standing behind the net, still further than the umpires the is say you were further away. But sure you should try refereeing as you'd be top notch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
For starters his umpires were closer. And at worst he'd have been 40/50 yards from the edge of square, you are outside the perimeter of the fence and unless you were standing behind the net, still further than the umpires the is say you were further away. But sure you should try refereeing as you'd be top notch

Respectfully, I'm not going to argue with you on this and I'll give you two reasons;
1)You always side with the referee which means there's no balance to your argument therefore making the debate pointless.
2) I may be wrong on this and correct me if I am, I'm assuming you weren't at the game as I believe you were officiating in Glenariffe at the minor semi final. That being the case why would you even bother offering opinions on a game you weren't at other than to defend a referee and therefore validating my 1st point?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
For starters his umpires were closer. And at worst he'd have been 40/50 yards from the edge of square, you are outside the perimeter of the fence and unless you were standing behind the net, still further than the umpires the is say you were further away. But sure you should try refereeing as you'd be top notch

Respectfully, I'm not going to argue with you on this and I'll give you two reasons;
1)You always side with the referee which means there's no balance to your argument therefore making the debate pointless.
2) I may be wrong on this and correct me if I am, I'm assuming you weren't at the game as I believe you were officiating in Glenariffe at the minor semi final. That being the case why would you even bother offering opinions on a game you weren't at other than to defend a referee and therefore validating my 1st point?

I don't side with referees when I'm a supporter player manager, you claimed he was too far away to see a square ball, I said he was probably closer than you and had trusted experienced umpires helping him. I wasn't there and never said I was I'm not defending him at all I'm just curious to ask why you thought he had a negative impact on the game, I spoke to lads at it and they said the game was good considering the pitch and weather and no way did the ref have any impact on how the game was won or lost..

I suppose it's all about opinions, some people are willing to put their head above the parapet others choose to snipe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Having done it myself in the past, at least the guys in the middle have the balls to put themselves forward to referee games. Also, having been involved in assessing referees, county finals are usually given out considering a number of factors, including a recent positive assessment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Having done it myself in the past, at least the guys in the middle have the balls to put themselves forward to referee games. Also, having been involved in assessing referees, county finals are usually given out considering a number of factors, including a recent positive assessment.

Yeah it's a fair point. A good performance from match officials goes without debate or controversy going back to the old adage "If you don't notice them they've done a good job".
This was very much the case with Colm in the junior final yesterday. Cunning was at the fore for much of the intermediate game yesterday for the reasons pointed out - bad display of refereeing from him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2017, 10:00:32 PM
To be fair to him any time i have seen him he has been excellent. I guess anyone can have a bad day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2017, 10:01:06 PM
I was not there, so won't comment, either way. All I will say is that, when I was involved, the vast majority of referees were there for the right reasons & while nobody is infallible, they all strived to referee a game fairly, no matter what stage of the season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2017, 10:17:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Having done it myself in the past, at least the guys in the middle have the balls to put themselves forward to referee games. Also, having been involved in assessing referees, county finals are usually given out considering a number of factors, including a recent positive assessment.

Yeah it's a fair point. A good performance from match officials goes without debate or controversy going back to the old adage "If you don't notice them they've done a good job".
This was very much the case with Colm in the junior final yesterday. Cunning was at the fore for much of the intermediate game yesterday for the reasons pointed out - bad display of refereeing from him.

Was speaking to Colm today at the club and he said the teams wanted to hurl so it was an easy game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 11:21:15 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 17, 2017, 08:09:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Lot of people at the final yesterday felt he had a very negative impact on the game. With the early penalty, the square ball calls from distance, the amount of yellow cards given out? What are your thoughts on those 3 things, PJ?

I never mentioned the games yesterday, I was just commenting on the post that somebody called him arrogant.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 18, 2017, 10:06:48 AM
As predicted Sarsfiels won by 6 and prob could have won by 10 or more. Superior team with some quality players who turned up on the day. As for skinny he is as good a referee as is in Antrin hence he gets big games. Square balls no doubt came with help from his umpire team and from where they are standing surely they can see a few yards in front of them to make that call correctly

Now for the main event of the antrim hurling season on sunday. Their will be a double celebration in Dunloy on sunday night with minor/senior trophies won on sunday. In the words of Buff Egan 'You can believe that'
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Big talk there chief! I'm looking forward the game on Sunday. Both teams littered with talent and skill, hopefully for an open game of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!

Ok 🤔🤔🤔
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
Looking forward to the weekend now, hopefully should be a good game.

Hard to guage what way things will go, I think this one will be close probably come down to the fine margins in the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!

Ok 🤔🤔🤔

Who was there better?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 11:18:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!

Ok 🤔🤔🤔

Who was there better?

He was never a big fan of Dunloy and couldn't maintain the state of neutrality required to implement his official position correctly
I wish him no Ill bit skinny would need to be setting his standards higher than that
I personally think we are enjoying the best standard of refereeing in Antrim club hurling I have seen
Considering the game is faster and the tackle count is higher it's a credit to them


Having said that if we get a bad decision next Sunday that could swing the match then expect me on here with the usual whinge fest 😃😃
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
Sarsfields were a joy to watch, played some fantastic hurling and on a better dryer surface can only play better. Surely they will go on and win Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 11:18:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!

Ok 🤔🤔🤔

Who was there better?

He was never a big fan of Dunloy and couldn't maintain the state of neutrality required to implement his official position correctly
I wish him no Ill bit skinny would need to be setting his standards higher than that
I personally think we are enjoying the best standard of refereeing in Antrim club hurling I have seen
Considering the game is faster and the tackle count is higher it's a credit to them


Having said that if we get a bad decision next Sunday that could swing the match then expect me on here with the usual whinge fest 😃😃

We all have our annoyances with Refs, there is a few who annoy me both on and off the pitch!

Any idea who got the job of ref this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 11:18:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2017, 06:47:23 PM
I've played along with, against and have been reffed by skinny and the one thing he ain't is arrogant. I'd go as far as saying he's the best ref we've had since Tommy McIntyre.

Well done to both Gort and The Paddies.

Tommy Mc intyre 😂😂😂
I take it your being sarcastic

No!

Ok 🤔🤔🤔

Who was there better?

He was never a big fan of Dunloy and couldn't maintain the state of neutrality required to implement his official position correctly
I wish him no Ill bit skinny would need to be setting his standards higher than that
I personally think we are enjoying the best standard of refereeing in Antrim club hurling I have seen
Considering the game is faster and the tackle count is higher it's a credit to them


Having said that if we get a bad decision next Sunday that could swing the match then expect me on here with the usual whinge fest 😃😃

We all have our annoyances with Refs, there is a few who annoy me both on and off the pitch!

Any idea who got the job of ref this weekend?

Haven't a clue
Mr2 might know
Imm just hoping for some dry wheather all week to make the going underfoot and bit faster
Suit out fowards better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 18, 2017, 01:59:34 PM
I hope MR2 gets it ...........He couldn't be that bad 2 days out in a row   ;) ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 02:05:25 PM
Owen Elliott most likely to get it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
McCotter from Sarsfields?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
McCotter from Sarsfields?

He has already ref'd Dunloys first two matches dont think he would be allowed to ref 3 in a row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 18, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
McCotter from Sarsfields?

He has already ref'd Dunloys first two matches dont think he would be allowed to ref 3 in a row.


Good shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Yeah I would say it is going to be OE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Will Martin Burke be fit? Had to come off injured during the semi final, he would be a brave loss for the dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Will Martin Burke be fit? Had to come off injured during the semi final, he would be a brave loss for the dall
I think he could be replaced handy enough to be honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 18, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
theres probably only 3 who could get it... owen elliott, mark o'neill or fionntan mc cotter
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 18, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
theres probably only 3 who could get it... owen elliott, mark o'neill or fionntan mc cotter

Can't see why mr2 couldn't get the gig either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on September 18, 2017, 05:59:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 18, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
theres probably only 3 who could get it... owen elliott, mark o'neill or fionntan mc cotter

Can't see why mr2 couldn't get the gig either

Could be lined up for the minor final.  He's reffed a few of those games.

It's ironic that Naomh Padraigs present coach is the lad who was ousted from the minor job in Ballycastle after working with underage teams in the Town for a good few years (volunteered for the senior job when no-one else wanted it and then got shafted in it too).

I'm sure it would have been bittersweet for him to have faced the Town in the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 18, 2017, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
Sarsfields were a joy to watch, played some fantastic hurling and on a better dryer surface can only play better. Surely they will go on and win Ulster.
Can't see them being beat in Ulster, they link up so well and really know how to play to their strengths. Always exiting to watch, I hope the senior final is a better spectacle than last year anyway, it being the main event an' all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 18, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 18, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 18, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
Will Martin Burke be fit? Had to come off injured during the semi final, he would be a brave loss for the dall
I think he could be replaced handy enough to be honest.

Cushendall people would tell you otherwise. Marty Burke has been rock solid at full back for us for a good few years. It's seldom you see any forward getting much change out of him. One of the first names on our team sheet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2017, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
Sarsfields were a joy to watch, played some fantastic hurling and on a better dryer surface can only play better. Surely they will go on and win Ulster.
Can't see them being beat in Ulster, they link up so well and really know how to play to their strengths. Always exiting to watch, I hope the senior final is a better spectacle than last year anyway, it being the main event an' all.

Lavey will be no push overs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2017, 07:07:17 PM
Lavey's best team in the intermediate??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2017, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 18, 2017, 01:59:34 PM
I hope MR2 gets it ...........He couldn't be that bad 2 days out in a row   ;) ;D

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 18, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
Mark ONeill is refereeing the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2017, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: faughs on September 18, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
Mark ONeill is refereeing the final.

About time! He's been due one for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 19, 2017, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2017, 07:07:17 PM
Lavey's best team in the intermediate??

Not sure. Only know of them and paddies so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2017, 06:07:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 19, 2017, 12:09:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2017, 07:07:17 PM
Lavey's best team in the intermediate??

Not sure. Only know of them and paddies so far

???

The answers yes. Nor sure how they carve things up in Derry. Is it league position which determines the championship silverware you compete for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 19, 2017, 07:42:04 AM
As far as I can see Lavey started the season in  SHC and were beat in Qtr Final, then dropped down to IHC.

Surely you cant play at a lower level in the Same season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 07:44:26 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 19, 2017, 07:42:04 AM
As far as I can see Lavey started the season in  SHC and were beat in Qtr Final, then dropped down to IHC.

Surely you cant play at a lower level in the Same season?
That's how the Derry county board work their championships... I wouldn't worry about them. Concentrate on your own game and that will get you to an All Ireland semi (at the very least)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 19, 2017, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 07:44:26 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 19, 2017, 07:42:04 AM
As far as I can see Lavey started the season in  SHC and were beat in Qtr Final, then dropped down to IHC.

Surely you cant play at a lower level in the Same season?
That's how the Derry county board work their championships... I wouldn't worry about them. Concentrate on your own game and that will get you to an All Ireland semi (at the very least)

On current form Paddies are well able for Lavey. Is Tyrone decided yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2017, 08:44:12 AM
Eire Og won it beating Dungannon in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 19, 2017, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 19, 2017, 08:44:12 AM
Eire Og won it beating Dungannon in the final
Having seen the both of them I'm surprised that Dungannon cant seem to get the better of Carrickmore in the championship. Tom Magill took them this year and had them going rightly, they were even flying men home from England for mid week league games which shows a bit of intent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 19, 2017, 10:01:46 AM
Swatragh also played in Derry Senior hurling championship this year before dropping to the lower tier after their exit. Sarsfields be too strong for Lavey or any Ulster team IMO

Mark O'Neil shouldn't be that important on Sunday if he doesn't get carried away. Hopefully the hurling display from Dunloy will be the talk on Sunday evening and not bad decisions from the man in the middle

Cant see the minor game being any contest and that's not a biased opinion just stating the facts. If Dunloy are fully loaded which they weren't against Ballycastle be at least double figures in this one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 19, 2017, 10:05:17 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 19, 2017, 10:01:46 AM
Swatragh also played in Derry Senior hurling championship this year before dropping to the lower tier after their exit. Sarsfields be too strong for Lavey or any Ulster team IMO

Mark O'Neil shouldn't be that important on Sunday if he doesn't get carried away. Hopefully the hurling display from Dunloy will be the talk on Sunday evening and not bad decisions from the man in the middle

Cant see the minor game being any contest and that's not a biased opinion just stating the facts. If Dunloy are fully loaded which they weren't against Ballycastle be at least double figures in this one

JJ will be loving this  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
glenariffes pitch was in brilliant shape on sat past for the minor match. big crowd at the game and it was well run by the club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.

Am I right hearing that they are near ready to start their construction?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 01:36:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.

Am I right hearing that they are near ready to start their construction?

Seems to be, the club rooms will be gone soon enough, well so I was told on Saturday.. So I had my last cup a tea up the stairs!! Been having sarnies and tea up there for 29 + years!! Probably some more if you count juvenile level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 19, 2017, 01:38:44 PM
Derry championship based on league positions.Top two qualify for SHC semi finals.Next four play off in the quarter finals.Winners progress to the semi finals,losers play off in the IHC final won by Lavey.Bottom two teams play off in the JHC final won by Na Magha who beat Coleraine who decided to clear off to the Kilmacud Sevens that weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 01:36:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.

Am I right hearing that they are near ready to start their construction?

Seems to be, the club rooms will be gone soon enough, well so I was told on Saturday.. So I had my last cup a tea up the stairs!! Been having sarnies and tea up there for 29 + years!! Probably some more if you count juvenile level

Thats great news for them and the wider area
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 19, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 01:36:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.

Am I right hearing that they are near ready to start their construction?

Seems to be, the club rooms will be gone soon enough, well so I was told on Saturday.. So I had my last cup a tea up the stairs!! Been having sarnies and tea up there for 29 + years!! Probably some more if you count juvenile level

Thats great news for them and the wider area

How? Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: Megaman on September 19, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 01:36:10 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 19, 2017, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 19, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
Should be a cracker, mainly dry this week bar tomorrow so hopefully the ground will harden up a bit and conditions wont be a talking point....

Hard to call, maybe a year early for Dunloy but if they manage to get over the line then the coneyor belt of talent coming through of the 3 times minor finalists and under 21 champions and the now reaching the final it could be a new begining for Dunloy...

Course Cushendall will be having none of that crap and if they manage to turn over more scores from the possession they had against Loughgiel then they should win, McManus still the big engine in that team and he drives them over the line and they have managed to grind out results, propbably a feeling of unfinished business with the All Ireland run so plenty for both teams to go for!!

You on duty?

Nope? I'll probably watch our kids in the Nipper Quinn final

Noticed a few fixtures for Sunday, bit of a clash for some people who would want to go.

Noticed that myself, some football fixtures too, I'm sure if the clubs could talk to each other then they could arrange a better time?


As for the minor final, Dunloy when they got going were too good for a big Ballycastle side, Ballycastle had chances but goal win games and Dunloys second goal was something else, Dunloy seem to have a great system (im sure on purpose) of having great past hurlers putting in the hard yards with these lads every year, I know how hard it is to bring

I have to praise Glenariffe for their efforts in helping me out with umpires, who did a great job and their efforts at keeping the ground (considering the conditions) in great shape. and the tea and food as usual was great

Agree, let's hope clubs sort it. I know the attendances at the semi final were hampered as lads had games fixed in Div2 hurling.

Glenarriffe are a super club.

Am I right hearing that they are near ready to start their construction?

Seems to be, the club rooms will be gone soon enough, well so I was told on Saturday.. So I had my last cup a tea up the stairs!! Been having sarnies and tea up there for 29 + years!! Probably some more if you count juvenile level

Thats great news for them and the wider area

How? Why?

I thought that anything good and positive that happened any GAA club would be positive for the club members and parish that it belonged to. For to long negative press about our association have been aired and written, fair play to Ossians in securing the funding necessary and making it work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 19, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
What Glenariff have achieved in raising and securing funding to build their new facility is nothing short of magnificent. They are an example to many other clubs who wish to improve their own facilities. That being said securing the funding is actually the easier part. When all the big knobs leave after the grand opening and tea and sandwiches that is when it get tough. There are no grants for heat, electric, rates, maintenance or the like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2017, 06:20:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
What Glenariff have achieved in raising and securing funding to build their new facility is nothing short of magnificent. They are an example to many other clubs who wish to improve their own facilities. That being said securing the funding is actually the easier part. When all the big knobs leave after the grand opening and tea and sandwiches that is when it get tough. There are no grants for heat, electric, rates, maintenance or the like.

Continuous fundraising is the only way forward!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 19, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
What Glenariff have achieved in raising and securing funding to build their new facility is nothing short of magnificent. They are an example to many other clubs who wish to improve their own facilities. That being said securing the funding is actually the easier part. When all the big knobs leave after the grand opening and tea and sandwiches that is when it get tough. There are no grants for heat, electric, rates, maintenance or the like.

That's the nail on the head & i feel we have maybe over extended, could be wrong. I just think the maintenance & upkeep could be difficult year on year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 19, 2017, 10:01:24 PM
No doubt it'll be tough Minder but your club now has a track record in fundraising. That level needs to be maintained and it's important the community understand that when the ribbon is cut the work doesn't finish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 20, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
you are aware that they dont own it and will be paying rent, which obviously could increase if it is not seen to be making a profit.

I hope it works out for glenariffe, but from what ive heard it could be a bit of mess for them, and for what, better changing rooms.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2017, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 20, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
you are aware that they dont own it and will be paying rent, which obviously could increase if it is not seen to be making a profit.

From that explanation it sounds like a precarious enough arrangement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 20, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 20, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
you are aware that they dont own it and will be paying rent, which obviously could increase if it is not seen to be making a profit.

I hope it works out for glenariffe, but from what ive heard it could be a bit of mess for them, and for what, better changing rooms.

That's the thing, it is owned by "Friends of Glenariffe", a separate entity to the hurling club. In my opinion that wasn't always made clear to people when fundraising was going on throughout the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2017, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 20, 2017, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 20, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
you are aware that they dont own it and will be paying rent, which obviously could increase if it is not seen to be making a profit.

From that explanation it sounds like a precarious enough arrangement.

90% rates relief on a building owned by an organisation with charity status.

I was interested in Glenariffe's model and TBH we are about to start something similar via a DERA grant which we need to top up BUT the final building will be owned by Ballygalget G.A.C. and controlled accordingly.

Yes there's certain obligations that need met to placate the local council who met their minimum legal requirements in terms of funding and then fucked on a load of stipulations wrt employment opportunities and availability to the wider community but nothing untoward and not reasonably workable with a bit of creative thinking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 20, 2017, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Minder on September 20, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: Megaman on September 20, 2017, 07:58:15 AM
you are aware that they dont own it and will be paying rent, which obviously could increase if it is not seen to be making a profit.

I hope it works out for glenariffe, but from what ive heard it could be a bit of mess for them, and for what, better changing rooms.

That's the thing, it is owned by "Friends of Glenariffe", a separate entity to the hurling club. In my opinion that wasn't always made clear to people when fundraising was going on throughout the years.

How are the Friends of Glenariffe made up? How are they elected?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 20, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
I don't see this as being any problem at all for Glenarriffe, it reinforces the club's position at the centre of the local community and will attract people who would ordinarily have little or nothing to do with the club. Helping it to flourish for years to come.  This is just a creative way of doing things to reduce the hurdles that have to be jumped to secure funding for these types of projects. Something that the club would struggle to achieve on their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:10:02 PM
what did they do with the gates?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 12:31:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:10:02 PM
what did they do with the gates?  ;D ;D ;D

Fecking mixer!!!!

youse truly hate each other lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
No no harm done  ;), it was a scandalous objection but nothing new there.

Could be a good example for other clubs to follow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
No no harm done  ;), it was a scandalous objection but nothing new there.

Could be a good example for other clubs to follow.

Seems to work well out in the sticks but for whatever reason the city teams struggled with that type of  raising money! Trust me we have a dedicated team working on such things and working with the local agencies to achieve better facilities, we hope to be in a position to change things in the not too distant future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2017, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
No no harm done  ;), it was a scandalous objection but nothing new there.

Could be a good example for other clubs to follow.

Seems to work well out in the sticks but for whatever reason the city teams struggled with that type of  raising money! Trust me we have a dedicated team working on such things and working with the local agencies to achieve better facilities, we hope to be in a position to change things in the not too distant future

Out in the sticks is where you'll find the true GAA people.. not in the city.  :-* ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2017, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
No no harm done  ;), it was a scandalous objection but nothing new there.

Could be a good example for other clubs to follow.

Seems to work well out in the sticks but for whatever reason the city teams struggled with that type of  raising money! Trust me we have a dedicated team working on such things and working with the local agencies to achieve better facilities, we hope to be in a position to change things in the not too distant future

Out in the sticks is where you'll find the true GAA people.. not in the city.  :-* ;)

yeah the ones that jump fences and hit kids and the ones that beat up referees  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 01:47:26 PM
I would have thought it is more diffucult in the city because the arguement for lack of facilities cant really be made, or made as well.

But then again with a bit more creativity I am sure there are ways around this, I see Rossa have plans for a 'Community Hub' out anyway.

Anyone know how they are going about this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 20, 2017, 01:49:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 20, 2017, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2017, 12:46:36 PM
No no harm done  ;), it was a scandalous objection but nothing new there.

Could be a good example for other clubs to follow.

Seems to work well out in the sticks but for whatever reason the city teams struggled with that type of  raising money! Trust me we have a dedicated team working on such things and working with the local agencies to achieve better facilities, we hope to be in a position to change things in the not too distant future

Out in the sticks is where you'll find the true GAA people.. not in the city.  :-* ;)

yeah the ones that jump fences and hit kids and the ones that beat up referees  ;)

The ones who can do that and not get caught..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 20, 2017, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2017, 01:32:12 PM
yeah the ones that jump fences and hit kids and the ones that beat up referees  ;)

Didn't know 'Cut' was a Culchie  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on September 20, 2017, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 19, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2017, 05:00:55 PM
What Glenariff have achieved in raising and securing funding to build their new facility is nothing short of magnificent. They are an example to many other clubs who wish to improve their own facilities. That being said securing the funding is actually the easier part. When all the big knobs leave after the grand opening and tea and sandwiches that is when it get tough. There are no grants for heat, electric, rates, maintenance or the like.

That's the nail on the head & i feel we have maybe over extended, could be wrong. I just think the maintenance & upkeep could be difficult year on year.

Reading the recent posts on Glenariff and reminded me of an article I read a few years back

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/a-spectacular-reversal-of-fortune-28955015.html

Obviously Glenariff wont incur the same costs stipulated in the article, but it puts into perspective the running of such facilities when regeneration and development is implemented.

Hopefully everything works out, and improves the facilities for all in the inner glens

Still think we're lacking some sort of area (3G) for recreational use all year round for the several sports clubs and groups in our area. It was being pushed a couple years back but dont know the outcome of the crusade, anyone shed some light?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 21, 2017, 10:53:14 AM
Predictions for the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 21, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Think it'll stay dry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 21, 2017, 12:20:50 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Think it'll stay dry

Really hope so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 21, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
Saw the forecast for Saturday giving it wet but think Sunday to be drier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2017, 01:26:16 PM
should stay dry the rest of the weekend from now on wards which is good. I think every pitch in the country is suffering with all the rain we have been getting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 21, 2017, 02:02:24 PM
Getting the excuses out early... no rain, pitch in better condition (should the minor game be on before it) best defence against a better pacy forward line.. experienced Dall team against a youthful team who have won under 21 recently and previous minor finals and another one to come possibly!!

A Great experienced referee who'll be up with play and knows the rules inside out! Knows the players and management too.. the best team on the day will generally win, the odd mistake will happen but it won't determine the result!!

I feel it may be a year early for Dunloy so I'm going for Cushendall to win by one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 21, 2017, 03:47:35 PM
I'm really looking forward to it the game on Sunday, has the makings of a decent game.

Going with a Cushendall win by 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 21, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Makings of a great game on Sunday between 2 quite contrasting teams. Cushendall who are at the top but haven't much coming through. Dunloy who are climbing back up again and have some of the most talented hurlers I have ever seen coming through.

Will it be a year early? Will the stage get too much for these young players?

The answer to both is no. These boys all ready have more medals with club/schools that any hurler will have in a career. These boys are born for the big stage. Throw in the best hurler in Ulster as in Shorty in to the mix at the top of his game and there is no reason why Dunloy cant come out on top.

Time will tell like it always does but come Sunday evening the 1st of many Antrim championships with this young team should be back in Dunloy 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 22, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
I fancy Dunloy by 2-3 points on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Usain on September 22, 2017, 12:33:01 PM
Looking forward to the game. I'm fancying the dall as they will cope with the wind which blows up at Leyland. Dunloy's time will come soon but tis is not the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 21, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Makings of a great game on Sunday between 2 quite contrasting teams. Cushendall who are at the top but haven't much coming through. Dunloy who are climbing back up again and have some of the most talented hurlers I have ever seen coming through.

Will it be a year early? Will the stage get too much for these young players?

The answer to both is no. These boys all ready have more medals with club/schools that any hurler will have in a career. These boys are born for the big stage. Throw in the best hurler in Ulster as in Shorty in to the mix at the top of his game and there is no reason why Dunloy cant come out on top.

Time will tell like it always does but come Sunday evening the 1st of many Antrim championships with this young team should be back in Dunloy
"haven't much coming through." We had 4 county minors this year and walked the north Antrim file. Our minors are the only team that gave Dunloy minors a game this year. Dunloy beat us by 1 in the under 21 and we hit the cross bar in the final 5 mins. You are doing us a bit of a disservice there aren't you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 21, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Makings of a great game on Sunday between 2 quite contrasting teams. Cushendall who are at the top but haven't much coming through. Dunloy who are climbing back up again and have some of the most talented hurlers I have ever seen coming through.

Will it be a year early? Will the stage get too much for these young players?

The answer to both is no. These boys all ready have more medals with club/schools that any hurler will have in a career. These boys are born for the big stage. Throw in the best hurler in Ulster as in Shorty in to the mix at the top of his game and there is no reason why Dunloy cant come out on top.

Time will tell like it always does but come Sunday evening the 1st of many Antrim championships with this young team should be back in Dunloy
"haven't much coming through." We had 4 county minors this year and walked the north Antrim file. Our minors are the only team that gave Dunloy minors a game this year. Dunloy beat us by 1 in the under 21 and we hit the cross bar in the final 5 mins. You are doing us a bit of a disservice there aren't you?

He/She was looking a bite and caught you hook line and sinker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 22, 2017, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 22, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 21, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Makings of a great game on Sunday between 2 quite contrasting teams. Cushendall who are at the top but haven't much coming through. Dunloy who are climbing back up again and have some of the most talented hurlers I have ever seen coming through.

Will it be a year early? Will the stage get too much for these young players?

The answer to both is no. These boys all ready have more medals with club/schools that any hurler will have in a career. These boys are born for the big stage. Throw in the best hurler in Ulster as in Shorty in to the mix at the top of his game and there is no reason why Dunloy cant come out on top.

Time will tell like it always does but come Sunday evening the 1st of many Antrim championships with this young team should be back in Dunloy
"haven't much coming through." We had 4 county minors this year and walked the north Antrim file. Our minors are the only team that gave Dunloy minors a game this year. Dunloy beat us by 1 in the under 21 and we hit the cross bar in the final 5 mins. You are doing us a bit of a disservice there aren't you?

He/She was looking a bite and caught you hook line and sinker.

I wish he would use different bait considering the weekend that's coming up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 02:12:10 PM
LOL

Sure we will see how Sunday goes I cant see us been bait  ::)

Cushendall maybe have a few coming through and that's granted but what we have coming through is a lot stronger it wasn't to hook you in but I do hope you have that sinking feeling sunday evening after the game  ;D

Hoping for a great game on Sunday for all neutrals in attendance as well its a might occasion



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
No club knows how to keep the conveyor belt of talent coming through better than Cushendall. That's hardly a controversial fact to anyone who know anything about the last 30 years of hurling in Antrim.
Not sure how we got down to B grade hurling for so many years there but in recent times we're competitive again in most age groups in A & I hope it remains that way for the foreseeable. Special mention to those lads who hurled their juvenile years in B grades. I think as a club we've done a sterling job bringing lads through to go on and compete at Division 1 senior level. That is no mean feat and those lads (and those working with them) deserve massive credit for keeping us a competitive Div1 team for all those years. Yes we were for years, down a step from the top positions (and we may be a bit off it yet... who knows) but that injection of talent from minor has made us more of a threat than years previous and plenty of those boys who ploughed away honestly for years have improved as well. Its great to be back competing in senior finals again. Looking forward to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 22, 2017, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 21, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
Makings of a great game on Sunday between 2 quite contrasting teams. Cushendall who are at the top but haven't much coming through. Dunloy who are climbing back up again and have some of the most talented hurlers I have ever seen coming through.

Will it be a year early? Will the stage get too much for these young players?

The answer to both is no. These boys all ready have more medals with club/schools that any hurler will have in a career. These boys are born for the big stage. Throw in the best hurler in Ulster as in Shorty in to the mix at the top of his game and there is no reason why Dunloy cant come out on top.

Time will tell like it always does but come Sunday evening the 1st of many Antrim championships with this young team should be back in Dunloy
"haven't much coming through." We had 4 county minors this year and walked the north Antrim file. Our minors are the only team that gave Dunloy minors a game this year. Dunloy beat us by 1 in the under 21 and we hit the cross bar in the final 5 mins. You are doing us a bit of a disservice there aren't you?

He/She was looking a bite and caught you hook line and sinker.
I'm not convinced he was fishing. There seems to be a perception in some quarters that because Dunloy have won a few minor championships it's a given they will dominate at senior. As St. John's and Rossa will tell you it doesn't always work like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 22, 2017, 03:27:26 PM
I only seen Dunloy a few times this year but have been very impressed with their ball distribution into the forwards. Playing   lovely low diagonal balls towards the corner flags. All space on the field fully utilized. I actually think Dunloy will win it. Their well coached and the brand of hurling they play is easy on the eye.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Its nothing to do with the fact we have won a few minor championships JJ. As you would prob know yourself if you watch as much club hurling as I do when your own club or even a rival club is in the ascendency. Off course there are minors who have came through and a lot more to come that are fantastic hurlers but putting that aside Paul Shields is the best hurler in Ulster when fit and healthy and thankfully at present he is that. Nigel ,Woody, Kevin Molloy all super hurlers and have plenty more years left all young men

So its nothing to do with winning minor titles that people think Dunloy are going to dominate at senior its a combination of youth and experience and the countless hours work that's being put into them by 3 men who between them have 30 Antrim championship medals so unlike St Johns and Rossa we are here to stay and you can believe that

Whether it starts on sunday sure we will see but the future of Antrim hurling is green and gold. Every dog has its day and our pups are starting to bark
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Its nothing to do with the fact we have won a few minor championships JJ. As you would prob know yourself if you watch as much club hurling as I do when your own club or even a rival club is in the ascendency. Off course there are minors who have came through and a lot more to come that are fantastic hurlers but putting that aside Paul Shields is the best hurler in Ulster when fit and healthy and thankfully at present he is that. Nigel ,Woody, Kevin Molloy all super hurlers and have plenty more years left all young men

So its nothing to do with winning minor titles that people think Dunloy are going to dominate at senior its a combination of youth and experience and the countless hours work that's being put into them by 3 men who between them have 30 Antrim championship medals so unlike St Johns and Rossa we are here to stay and you can believe that

Whether it starts on sunday sure we will see but the future of Antrim hurling is green and gold. Every dog has its day and our pups are starting to bark

Stop watching Buff Egan on Snapchat.

Confidence is one thing but arrogance is another! Philip Campbell, Brian Delargy & Karl McKeegan have fair experience around them also.

There is no doubt that Dunloy are coming on strong and fair play to them but just reign it in a bit there as you and other supporters could be setting these lads up for a fall..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
Whos Buff Egan and whats snapchat?

I never once said anything to say that Cushendall hadn't any experience around them or if I did can you quote me? Naw you cant  :-X

No one is being set up for a fall I was just stating things how they are and whatever happens on sunday will happen and if its our last final for the next 5 years you can always quote me on my previous posts and say you told me so chap.

Now to find out more about this snap chat  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 22, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Its nothing to do with the fact we have won a few minor championships JJ. As you would prob know yourself if you watch as much club hurling as I do when your own club or even a rival club is in the ascendency. Off course there are minors who have came through and a lot more to come that are fantastic hurlers but putting that aside Paul Shields is the best hurler in Ulster when fit and healthy and thankfully at present he is that. Nigel ,Woody, Kevin Molloy all super hurlers and have plenty more years left all young men

So its nothing to do with winning minor titles that people think Dunloy are going to dominate at senior its a combination of youth and experience and the countless hours work that's being put into them by 3 men who between them have 30 Antrim championship medals so unlike St Johns and Rossa we are here to stay and you can believe that

Whether it starts on sunday sure we will see but the future of Antrim hurling is green and gold. Every dog has its day and our pups are starting to bark
Dall have a few dogs in the fight too and they can bite so barking back at them won't do
We can win this but Dall firm favourites
Great to back in a final
Good luck to our lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
Whos Buff Egan and whats snapchat?

I never once said anything to say that Cushendall hadn't any experience around them or if I did can you quote me? Naw you cant  :-X

No one is being set up for a fall I was just stating things how they are and whatever happens on sunday will happen and if its our last final for the next 5 years you can always quote me on my previous posts and say you told me so chap.

Now to find out more about this snap chat  8)

I stated Cushendall had plenty of experience also along the line,you are right you didn't mention it but did I say you did?

I'd say you know rightly who Buff is  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 22, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
I'm not convinced he was fishing. There seems to be a perception in some quarters that because Dunloy have won a few minor championships it's a given they will dominate at senior. As St. John's and Rossa will tell you it doesn't always work like that.
::)
We're not that naive JJ and well you know it. Name me one club that ever won anything as a result of taking things at a given?  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 22, 2017, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 22, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Its nothing to do with the fact we have won a few minor championships JJ. As you would prob know yourself if you watch as much club hurling as I do when your own club or even a rival club is in the ascendency. Off course there are minors who have came through and a lot more to come that are fantastic hurlers but putting that aside Paul Shields is the best hurler in Ulster when fit and healthy and thankfully at present he is that. Nigel ,Woody, Kevin Molloy all super hurlers and have plenty more years left all young men

So its nothing to do with winning minor titles that people think Dunloy are going to dominate at senior its a combination of youth and experience and the countless hours work that's being put into them by 3 men who between them have 30 Antrim championship medals so unlike St Johns and Rossa we are here to stay and you can believe that

Whether it starts on sunday sure we will see but the future of Antrim hurling is green and gold. Every dog has its day and our pups are starting to bark
What were people saying earlier about hooks and bait? Hahaha settle down son.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Anyone that's knows anything about hurling will know what way Sunday's big game is going to go.  Cushendall have worked hard this year and will reap the rewards come Sunday.  Dunloy can rattle up big scores against the  Division 2 teams of the world (conceding almost 20 points in to the bargain!).  Take the blinkers off people, it's going to be a comfortable win for the Dall.

MR2 still kissing ass I see, you'll get a big appointment yet.

You obviously didn't see the Carey v Tir Na nOg game Mark O'Neill officiated. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Anyone that's knows anything about hurling will know what way Sunday's big game is going to go.  Cushendall have worked hard this year and will reap the rewards come Sunday.  Dunloy can rattle up big scores against the  Division 2 teams of the world (conceding almost 20 points in to the bargain!).  Take the blinkers off people, it's going to be a comfortable win for the Dall.

MR2 still kissing ass I see, you'll get a big appointment yet.

You obviously didn't see the Carey v Tir Na nOg game Mark O'Neill officiated.

You obviously don't know me, as kissing ass isn't my thing, my life in general would be better if I did lol!

Stop worrying about the ref hirty!

Most poster believe you, only one other has went for Dunloy on here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Anyone that's knows anything about hurling will know what way Sunday's big game is going to go.  Cushendall have worked hard this year and will reap the rewards come Sunday.  Dunloy can rattle up big scores against the  Division 2 teams of the world (conceding almost 20 points in to the bargain!).  Take the blinkers off people, it's going to be a comfortable win for the Dall.

MR2 still kissing ass I see, you'll get a big appointment yet.

You obviously didn't see the Carey v Tir Na nOg game Mark O'Neill officiated.

Your posts tell me enough about you, everyone can see through you.

Most people think it will be a close game, I can't see Dunloy getting within 7 points.

Talking to a lot of Dunloy supporters, they think they have it won already.

They will get there eyes opened on Sunday. 


You obviously don't know me, as kissing ass isn't my thing, my life in general would be better if I did lol!

Stop worrying about the ref hirty!

Most poster believe you, only one other has went for Dunloy on here!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2017, 12:10:01 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2017, 10:52:46 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Anyone that's knows anything about hurling will know what way Sunday's big game is going to go.  Cushendall have worked hard this year and will reap the rewards come Sunday.  Dunloy can rattle up big scores against the  Division 2 teams of the world (conceding almost 20 points in to the bargain!).  Take the blinkers off people, it's going to be a comfortable win for the Dall.

MR2 still kissing ass I see, you'll get a big appointment yet.

You obviously didn't see the Carey v Tir Na nOg game Mark O'Neill officiated.

Your posts tell me enough about you, everyone can see through you.

Most people think it will be a close game, I can't see Dunloy getting within 7 points.

Talking to a lot of Dunloy supporters, they think they have it won already.

They will get there eyes opened on Sunday. 


You obviously don't know me, as kissing ass isn't my thing, my life in general would be better if I did lol!

Stop worrying about the ref hirty!

Most poster believe you, only one other has went for Dunloy on here!

Dead on hirty...  keep taking the tablets
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2017, 01:03:22 PM
Another part of the build up for the final that's wetted my appetite has been the coverage by the Saffron Gael. Player interviews and manager interviews have all been superb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 23, 2017, 06:41:18 PM
Tomorrows match rescheduled for 3.15 instead of half past
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Ah feck that!! Not going now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
It always was 315...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 23, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
It always was 315...

Most posters made for it I'd seen had half 3 wrote on them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
Any City lads or ladies coming down to watch the game, leave extra time for your journey. North bound M2 is shut apparently so diversions in place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 09:49:12 AM
Are you serious? They obviously know City folk won't be going, Cheers

I've been going the Ballymena road from doagh recently, by passing the motorway (I'm not a city dweller )
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 10:15:48 AM
That seems to be a regular occurance on county hurling final day >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 24, 2017, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 09:49:12 AM
Are you serious? They obviously know City folk won't be going, Cheers

I've been going the Ballymena road from doagh recently, by passing the motorway (I'm not a city dweller )

Yeah, my mate is a lorry driver and was diverted this morning coming off the early boat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 24, 2017, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 23, 2017, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
It always was 315...

Most posters made for it I'd seen had half 3 wrote on them

In fact the tickets sold in the club's have half 3 wrote on them to fs  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
Was up watching our youngsters today win the Nipper Quinn shield and it warms the heart to see the wee pups knock their pan in, our minors won the b championship yesterday also and the under 16 in a final again next weekend..

While not setting the world alight we are gaining small gains.. my post can't be complete without mentioning Davitts and more importantly St Paul's who competed in the Nipper Quinn cup final straight,  after huge improvements from the teams whom Hurling had nearly died in both clubs, both junior now at senior level but it seems turning a corner, also St. Paul's are in under 16 final against us next week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 24, 2017, 12:25:40 PM
Diesel dippers at Dunsilly this morning!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 24, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
Cushendall to win by5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on September 24, 2017, 04:06:02 PM
Cushendall 7-4 ahead at half-time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 04:22:04 PM
8 points on 9 minutes for Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 04:23:13 PM
And two goals!!

Game over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 22, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Anyone that's knows anything about hurling will know what way Sunday's big game is going to go.  Cushendall have worked hard this year and will reap the rewards come Sunday.  Dunloy can rattle up big scores against the  Division 2 teams of the world (conceding almost 20 points in to the bargain!).  Take the blinkers off people, it's going to be a comfortable win for the Dall.

MR2 still kissing ass I see, you'll get a big appointment yet.

You obviously didn't see the Carey v Tir Na nOg game Mark O'Neill officiated.

That's you back in your box for another year I'd expect
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 05:18:02 PM
The scoreline flattered Cushendal with those late goals. Dunloy full value for their victory. 1st half was scrappy/physical/niggly - Natty very lucky to have not walked too.

Ryan McCambridge got roasted - needs to stop bulking up he's way too slow now. Nigel Elliott's goal was fantastic.

Dunloy now county champions at minor/U21/senior - they deserve all their success as they are doing the thing right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 24, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
Well done Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 24, 2017, 06:04:43 PM
Congratulations to Dunloy. Brilliant second half performance. Your minors are a serious outfit too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 06:16:57 PM
What did mcmanus do?

Great 2nd half from dunloy. Won almost all their battles. Big carson battled well but seemed to be ploughing a lone furrow. While natty mcnaughton was on thin ice he still was the most effective forward so wasn't sure he should have come off.

Plenty of pace in that dunloy team. Really told 2nd half. A day cushendall will want to forget.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 24, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Really delighted with that
Shortly and nigel Elliot take a bow for showing leadership when needed
Great to be back at the top table
Hard luck to cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 24, 2017, 06:29:38 PM
Well that answered the question whether it was too early for this Dunloy team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 24, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 21, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Think it'll stay dry

Happy my prediction came true  8)

Great 2nd half

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
Big performance then.
Great to see

Now hope mR2 gets a big game  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 07:48:50 PM
Best Antrim club team I've seen since 2012. They play great attacking hurling. I hope they set/lift the standard across the board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 24, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
Big performance then.
Great to see

Now hope mR2 gets a big game  ;)

All the games I do are big games!! Under 8 through to senior!!

Great to hear no crap about how game was ref'd in both games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 24, 2017, 07:37:22 PM
Big performance then.
Great to see

Now hope mR2 gets a big game  ;)

All the games I do are big games!! Under 8 through to senior!!

Great to hear no crap about how game was ref'd in both games

We're saving our referee analysis for tomorrow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 08:19:07 PM
One very puzzling decision first half senior game but that aside nothing to report mr!

to be fair to both teams in both matches there wasn't much dirt. (A rash pull or two by a cushendall boy first half but that got nipped in the bud). I have no idea what mcmanus did but no complaints it seemed so must have been an ok decision.

I had a sneaky feeling dunloy might win but they tore cushendall apart. It was that bad i don't know how they will come back from it with age of team.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:24:54 PM
Cushendall aren't that old to be honest and we're a sniff away from beating Dunloy in the minor this year... they are too good to not be back, not that long playing at Croke park also..,

I just thought heavy pitch and weather Cushendall would just get over the line, was only a matter of time that Dunloy would come good, Loughgiel will be getting ready for next year and try and put some manners on their noisy neighbours!!

Already looking forward to next year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 24, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Any ideas on attendance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:24:54 PM
Cushendall aren't that old to be honest and we're a sniff away from beating Dunloy in the minor this year... they are too good to not be back, not that long playing at Croke park also..,

I just thought heavy pitch and weather Cushendall would just get over the line, was only a matter of time that Dunloy would come good, Loughgiel will be getting ready for next year and try and put some manners on their noisy neighbours!!

Already looking forward to next year!

Yeah i wonder will watson be back too. Loughgiel more mobile so might be a different match up than today. Would like to see them meet at some stage!

Be interesting to see what happens with slaughtneil now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: faughs on September 24, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Any ideas on attendance?

Was chatting about this today and we guessed (probably poorly) 6-7 thousand......anything different??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 08:34:56 PM
Think S'Niel will go in as favs should they meet, purely based on last years performance, but that would suit Dunloy... who came outta Down? B'Get and the Ports were playing today I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
Ballygalget won .....Dunloy will beat Slaughtneil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 24, 2017, 09:05:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: faughs on September 24, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
Any ideas on attendance?

Was chatting about this today and we guessed (probably poorly) 6-7 thousand......anything different??

We reckoned 3/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2017, 09:13:47 PM
Don't believe it! Would have more at Corrigan .......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
Ballygalget won .....Dunloy will beat Slaughtneil

Will depend on how they handle slaughtneil's physicality. Anyway that is for another day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on September 24, 2017, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on September 24, 2017, 08:40:34 PM
Ballygalget won .....Dunloy will beat Slaughtneil

Will depend on how they handle slaughtneil's physicality. Anyway that is for another day.

We struggle on heavy pitches' and today was no different. Portaferry can consider themselves unlucky as Dule missed four frees he's never missed the likes of before.
Ballycran's tight pitch doesn't suit a lot of our lad's and I can't see us prevailing as the year goes on.
Dunloy schooled us twice in the league whereas we gave the dall and loughgeil at game.
Slaughtneil will be no easy quest in the middle of October
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 25, 2017, 07:33:18 AM
Congratulations to Dunloy. The best team won on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 25, 2017, 08:53:33 AM
I thought Dunloy would win but I didn't think they'd win so comprehensively.

They've been building all year and peaked at the right time. Fair play to them.

They'll beat Slaughtneil / Ballygalget and a good sod in Croke Park would be the perfect surface for them. There's an All Ireland in that team in years to come. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 25, 2017, 10:01:37 AM
Was very impressed with Dunloy yesterday who looked much better prepared for the event. All talk of the young boys not being ready for it answered with some grit and style.  Cushendall it looked,strangely lacking belief in themselves. One positive for the Ruairis was the performance of young Fergus McCambridge who didn't shrink an inch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 25, 2017, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
congratulations dunloy.   but plz don't get ahead of yourself  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 25, 2017, 11:23:52 PM
Wise words there SG. Young teams need to stay grounded
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Well on September 25, 2017, 11:50:38 PM
Fair play to Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on September 26, 2017, 12:34:49 AM
Not too surprised Dunloy won I knew they had the players. I think the indoor facility they built has helped to develop this group. Apparently the indoor ball when it gets warm moves much faster so it might explain why some of them are very "wristy". The performance Sunday might give them enough confidence to win Ulster now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on September 26, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
The Academy is a fantastic resource no doubt but those young lads were knacky when they were U10s before it was built
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2017, 08:53:03 AM
Sunday was literally the definition of the two half game. I thought we were poor enough in the first half and Cushendall deserved to be in front. Though despite not playing well we were only 3 points down on them.

Second half we came out and completely blew them away. I knew the talent was there in the team i just didn't expect that to happen. It was a joy to watch as a Dunloy fan as the players showed what they could do.

Not going to lie, we enjoyed the celebrations on Sunday into the wee hours of Monday morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 26, 2017, 11:43:12 PM
Disagree ☝️☝️☝️. Dunloy better team start to finish and shoulda have been in front at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
would love to agree with you BB but i thought we were poor in the first half. we shot bad wides and gave away silly frees to allow Cdall to tag over the scores. At times it looked like we were trying to force a pass and each time it was the wrong option.

I was happy to be only 3 down at half time despite not playing well.

On another note i heard last night that Sundays final was the biggest attended in an age with £25k on the gate. Fair play to everyone in Ballycastle as they had it all organised to a tee and before we had all left they had rubbish started to be collected around the pitch by club vols.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 27, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
would love to agree with you BB but i thought we were poor in the first half. we shot bad wides and gave away silly frees to allow Cdall to tag over the scores. At times it looked like we were trying to force a pass and each time it was the wrong option.

I was happy to be only 3 down at half time despite not playing well.

On another note i heard last night that Sundays final was the biggest attended in an age with £25k on the gate. Fair play to everyone in Ballycastle as they had it all organised to a tee and before we had all left they had rubbish started to be collected around the pitch by club vols.

Agree DR, was absolutely superb organisation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 27, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
would love to agree with you BB but i thought we were poor in the first half. we shot bad wides and gave away silly frees to allow Cdall to tag over the scores. At times it looked like we were trying to force a pass and each time it was the wrong option.

I was happy to be only 3 down at half time despite not playing well.

On another note i heard last night that Sundays final was the biggest attended in an age with £25k on the gate. Fair play to everyone in Ballycastle as they had it all organised to a tee and before we had all left they had rubbish started to be collected around the pitch by club vols.

Agree DR, was absolutely superb organisation.

Credit where it is due for the ticket process also to the County, was very well organised. Clear and Transparent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 27, 2017, 09:43:14 AM
Dunloy better team in the first half to in my opinion, just couldnt get the scores, 5/6 wides and 3/4 occasions nigel elliott and keelan molloy couldve been in on goal. they upped it a couple of levels start of the second half and cushendall couldnt live with the pace! you wont see a better 15 minutes like it again, 3 down to 11 up. 2-10 in 15 minutes. Unreal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Sneill won the toss there this morning and the games set for Owenbeg. Im happy with that venue, big wide open pitch will suit us to a tee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: shawshank on September 29, 2017, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Sneill won the toss there this morning and the games set for Owenbeg. Im happy with that venue, big wide open pitch will suit us to a tee.

You are, wait to you see the surface, goal area a mud bath, couldn't take matches recently as it was into the knees. Is the game this Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 29, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
yeah i seen that there and the pics from the pitch. there hasnt been a game played on it since the 2 football semi finals so its had a lot of time to recover from the damage done to it.

The games set for next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 29, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
yeah i seen that there and the pics from the pitch. there hasnt been a game played on it since the 2 football semi finals so its had a lot of time to recover from the damage done to it.

The games set for next weekend.

The second semi actually wasmt played there, it was moved to Celtic PArk cause it cut up that badly in the 1st semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 29, 2017, 02:18:14 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 29, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 29, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
yeah i seen that there and the pics from the pitch. there hasnt been a game played on it since the 2 football semi finals so its had a lot of time to recover from the damage done to it.

The games set for next weekend.

The second semi actually wasmt played there, it was moved to Celtic PArk cause it cut up that badly in the 1st semi

Can't see the Derry board breaking its balls to make it suit a light fast team
Ballycastle was heavy and that turned out ok so it is what it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 01, 2017, 04:41:22 AM
Well lads what do we all make of the new Hurling Structure and how it will effect our game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2017, 08:27:28 AM
Will make it even harder for Antrim to get to Croke park, giving teams two bites at the cherry means they usually win the next match..

Antrim need to win the Christy Ring, never thought I'd be saying that!! We need to look at our development stage and see how can we improve our worth?

Location was never helping us, the ability not just for our senior teams but also our club teams having challenge matches with strong neighbouring counties to help raise the standard, what club has the resources to have regular challenge games for a few weekends a year with players able to commit to it? Unlike being positioned centrally and a hours drive will take you to top Dublin Kilkenny Galway Tipp or even north Cork and East Clare teams!

Our county teams need to be doing that at all levels.. if we continue to play the same teams every week we'll continue with same results...

Coaching the right way is so important, too many people turn up and do the same thing, working on the finer skills of the game is as important as the fundementals...parent participation is massive getting them to buy in will keep the kids at it for longer, once the child is hooked then you have them..

We could go on and on. Have we ever had a hurling boss of sorts that overseen hurling throughout the county, grassroots right through to senior, monitoring clubs coaching and commitment levels and looking at ways to help a club that's struggling in those areas, arranging coaching sessions and games ? Jim Nelson would have been perfect for that role and I certainly remember going to a few sessions he took at Casement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 01, 2017, 09:29:48 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 01, 2017, 04:41:22 AM
Well lads what do we all make of the new Hurling Structure and how it will effect our game

If we win the Christy ring we'd play 3rd place in the Munster/Leinster Championship. So possibly Wexford, Dublin, Cork, Clare. That would be played in Antrim. Win that and you're into the All Ireland quarter final proper.

The only remaining problem is .........we're shit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 01, 2017, 03:46:25 PM
Sarsfields winning 20-10 v Blaney .......really good team at Intermediate level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 01, 2017, 03:57:13 PM
Sarsfields won 1.27 - 0.11 .......big scoreline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2017, 04:00:45 PM
Lavey won by a massive score too. Should be a interesting game if they meet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 01, 2017, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 01, 2017, 04:00:45 PM
Lavey won by a massive score too. Should be a interesting game if they meet.

37 - 10 .....massive. That could make a great game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on October 02, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Seen on Social media today that Rossa minors won the minor hurling league at the weekend without any defeats along the way.  Well done to them.  Nice to see hurling in Belfast is still alive and kicking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 02, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: old timers on October 02, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Seen on Social media today that Rossa minors won the minor hurling league at the weekend without any defeats along the way.  Well done to them.  Nice to see hurling in Belfast is still alive and kicking.

I'm not sure Rossa folk who know the pedigree of that squad will take much consolation from winning the league. How would anyone in the city who follows the sport not know just how commanding that team were through juvenile? Ballycastle chinned them in the 1st round of the Championship.....still trying to work out how that happened.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: old timers on October 02, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Seen on Social media today that Rossa minors won the minor hurling league at the weekend without any defeats along the way.  Well done to them.  Nice to see hurling in Belfast is still alive and kicking.

I'm not sure Rossa folk who know the pedigree of that squad will take much consolation from winning the league. How would anyone in the city who follows the sport not know just how commanding that team were through juvenile? Ballycastle chinned them in the 1st round of the Championship.....still trying to work out how that happened.

I doubt you are overly worried either Skull  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me.

Sarsfields are a div 3/4 team this year, they were relegated the year before and stayed at Intermediate, and could have played in the Junior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:56:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me.

Sarsfields are a div 3/4 team this year, they were relegated the year before and stayed at Intermediate, and could have played in the Junior championship

Thats correct MR2 but I am talking about the talent that they have within the club, there is no way they should be a 3/4 team begin with.

It was a general point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me.

I don't think anyone in Derry feel Lavey are taking the easy route. They got beaten by KL as expected in senior QF then went onto beat swatragh, who were the other beaten quarter finalist, in the intermediate final.

If lavey win ulster int I assume they can't enter it again next year so most likely swatragh will get a run at it possibly without actually winning anything in derry. What may be considered taking the easy route is if screen, banagher or KL struggle in the league with could put them against SN in a QF and into intermediate.

I think the problem arises with the lack of hurling teams in derry (3 teams out of 8 representing Derry in ulster) and possibly in the whole of ulster bar antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 02:29:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:56:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2017, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Link on October 02, 2017, 01:33:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
Bit of a disgrace that Lavey should be playing at this level tbf.

New hurling structure within derry this year. seems everyone is fairly happy with the amount of fixtures and the structure of everything.

Do you have a proposal for who should represent derry at intermediate level given Na Magha beat Coleraine easy and Coleraine can't represent Derry at junior level?

I would currently rank the derry teams in this order - SL, Banagher, KL, Screen, Lavey, Swatragh, Na Magha, Coleraine.

Not my responsibility to be proposing anyone, my point was that a club like Lavey playing in Im. Championship is not good for anyone.
It is not solely a Derry problem, I also think that Sarsfields are too good to be playing at that level too.

There has been a trend within Antrim in recent years to just drop down that level to get a championship run. Smacks of taking the easy route for me.

Sarsfields are a div 3/4 team this year, they were relegated the year before and stayed at Intermediate, and could have played in the Junior championship

Thats correct MR2 but I am talking about the talent that they have within the club, there is no way they should be a 3/4 team begin with.

It was a general point.

I agree they are a great team but this is the first time in a long time that they have acutally won anything at senior level at hurling, they have been beaten in a lot of first round games in championship these past few years, this current squad were never a Senior team until recently i.e wining the intermediate title.. now they can build on that and take it into div 2 and senior championship next year...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on October 02, 2017, 03:16:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 02, 2017, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 02, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: old timers on October 02, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Seen on Social media today that Rossa minors won the minor hurling league at the weekend without any defeats along the way.  Well done to them.  Nice to see hurling in Belfast is still alive and kicking.

I'm not sure Rossa folk who know the pedigree of that squad will take much consolation from winning the league. How would anyone in the city who follows the sport not know just how commanding that team were through juvenile? Ballycastle chinned them in the 1st round of the Championship.....still trying to work out how that happened.

I doubt you are overly worried either Skull  ;D

No worry at all there as it's only Belfast hurling which doesn't matter to most outside of Belfast. IMO.  It's very difficult to get kids out for matches on a weekly basis especially at minor level. As for being chinned at championship sure that happens to the best of teams even those outside of Belfast. Just look at the shambles of Antrim in the Christy ring final this year. Anyone can be disappointed as many are that you don't win or even do well in championship but IMO that happens to most of us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 03, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
Not worried about the Derry championship structure it is what it is and if Lavey win it will be because they battled hard and Deserved it. Sarsfields have a great chance against them in my opinion. Anytime I've seen Sarsfields I've been more than impressed. Sarsfields by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 03, 2017, 07:37:44 PM
ahem ...

https://thesaffrongael.com/2017/10/03/mcquillans-ballycastle-seek-new-managers/

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2017, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 03, 2017, 07:37:44 PM
ahem ...

https://thesaffrongael.com/2017/10/03/mcquillans-ballycastle-seek-new-managers/

And? U after the Football job?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2017, 08:06:36 PM
That seems pro active!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 04, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
owenbeg up for a pitch inspection on friday to see if its fit to take sundays game. Celtic Park on stand by as an alternative.

i heard on monday night that Ownbeg was still into the arse with water and hadnt recovered from the games on it previously. I would say if it doesnt stop raining we will be in Celtic Park sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 04, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
owenbeg up for a pitch inspection on friday to see if its fit to take sundays game. Celtic Park on stand by as an alternative.

i heard on monday night that Ownbeg was still into the arse with water and hadnt recovered from the games on it previously. I would say if it doesnt stop raining we will be in Celtic Park sunday.

We're in Corrigan on Sunday against Lisbellaw.

That's as good as it gets for Ards clubs wrt ulster club games so no complaints from us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2017, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
That's as good as it gets for Ards clubs wrt ulster club games so no complaints from us.

After all that whinging about playing in Casement over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 04, 2017, 12:43:45 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2017, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 04, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
That's as good as it gets for Ards clubs wrt ulster club games so no complaints from us.

After all that whinging about playing in Casement over the years

Sure Antrim club teams won't be playing in the new Casement anyway. It'll all be good.  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2017, 01:25:04 PM
 :)
It'll be a neutral venue for the whole of Ulster to treasure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2017, 04:17:54 PM
fecking gurny cnuts!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
How do we see this weekends games going for the Antrim clubs. Can Dunloy do to Slaughtneil what they did against Cushendall? So Sarsfields have enough for Lavey? Will Gort Na Mona get over the line this time? I'm predicting Antrim sides to win the 3 games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
How do we see this weekends games going for the Antrim clubs. Can Dunloy do to Slaughtneil what they did against Cushendall? So Sarsfields have enough for Lavey? Will Gort Na Mona get over the line this time? I'm predicting Antrim sides to win the 3 games

A lot closer than people think, Gorts without their main scoring threat, straight red last day out, S'Neil Ulster champions in both codes, year older and bit more experience! Sarsfields up against an unknown in Lavey, can't really assess them but going on history Lavey are no mugs... all very interesting games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 04, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
Tough games for all 3 i think. Dunloy will be better hurlers than slaughtneil but slaughtneil much more physical and at this time of year it might count. Think dunloy can sneak it though.

Don't know enough about sarsfields but lavey won't be easy with their history. Surprised to see them at intermediate but don't follow derry hurling that closely.kevin mckernan seems to be a big player for sarsfields.

Gorts struggled and if missing a player could be tough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 05, 2017, 11:12:00 AM
Weekend Hurling

Gort Na Mona may rue not finishing the job 1st time out but hopefully get over the line

Sarsfields are as good an intermediate team in the province and should overcome Lavey

Slaughtneil will pose the same threat physically as Cushendall did in our county final. On that occasion that wasn't enough as the pace we played at was too much for Cushendall to live with. Granted Slaughtneil have 4/5 very good hurlers but we have many more than that, this year more so than previous years. With any luck we will have a few days of decent weather to get the surface as quick as possible and like last time I predict Dunloy to win but it will be a battle there is no doubting that but our superior hurling skills will be the difference on the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 05, 2017, 11:12:00 AM
Weekend Hurling

Gort Na Mona may rue not finishing the job 1st time out but hopefully get over the line

Sarsfields are as good an intermediate team in the province and should overcome Lavey

Slaughtneil will pose the same threat physically as Cushendall did in our county final. On that occasion that wasn't enough as the pace we played at was too much for Cushendall to live with. Granted Slaughtneil have 4/5 very good hurlers but we have many more than that, this year more so than previous years. With any luck we will have a few days of decent weather to get the surface as quick as possible and like last time I predict Dunloy to win but it will be a battle there is no doubting that but our superior hurling skills will be the difference on the day

Thats the thing, win the battle and the skill will surface to the top and Dunloy should convert more than S'niel, though Ive been very impressed with S'Neil last season and wrote them off a couple of times... for most on that Dunloy team its a new experience at this level so hopefully they will be grounded by that management set up in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 05, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
Paddy Power have Sarsfields priced up at 1/2 against Lavey who are 7/4. Surely far too short a price. I actually thought Lavey would have been slight favourites
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 05, 2017, 09:33:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 05, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
Paddy Power have Sarsfields priced up at 1/2 against Lavey who are 7/4. Surely far too short a price. I actually thought Lavey would have been slight favourites

I'll have some of that thanks very much
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 06, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
Owenbeg

There was a pitch inspection this morning at 10am and the Dunloy v Slaughtneil game goes ahead as planned at half2 Sunday. Looking forward to this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 06, 2017, 11:41:44 AM
I would say at this stage most pitches are going to be roughly the same kind of shape so shouldnt have too big a bearing on the result.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 06, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
James Clarke on the whistle.

He refereed two games in the Down Senior hurling championship both involving us and I thought he was fine all in. Will let it go a bit if both teams allow and will call out the dirt too.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 03:34:21 PM
Sarsfields and Dunloy down at halftime
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 04:04:07 PM
Both beat at ft
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 08, 2017, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 04:04:07 PM
Both beat at ft
Paddies beat by 2 and a man sent off. They'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 08, 2017, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o

Them pups didn't bite much today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 08, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o

Hard to hide it SG  ;)

Welcome back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
Good to see our county do what it does best! Sticking the boot in  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 08, 2017, 09:26:59 PM
Humbled by a very solid Slaughtneil team. Just didn't have the tools to offer any threat to them. Better strength and movement from start to finish put us on the back foot for pretty much the whole game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 08, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o

Hard to hide it SG  ;)

Welcome back
nothing hard to hide at all.  had my neighbors got out of ulster id have supported them like i do all ulster teams.   simply a small poke at the lad above who had the next 10 years wrapped up. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 08, 2017, 11:38:25 PM
Better team won no question
We struggled in every position. Physically overwhelmed and not allowed to hurl
Need to learn how to play under more pressure
Still been a good year
Jaysus that's a terrible place to get at
Arrived in Dungiven 40 minutes before throw in and missed the first ten minutes
Traffic queues, no parking, and pitch made ballycastle surface look like a putting green
Not a big fan of owenbeg
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 08, 2017, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 08, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o

Hard to hide it SG  ;)

Welcome back
nothing hard to hide at all.  had my neighbors got out of ulster id have supported them like i do all ulster teams.   simply a small poke at the lad above who had the next 10 years wrapped up.

Agree he was asking for it but you only show up for the pis.ing contest
classy as ever
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 08, 2017, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 08, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 25, 2017, 04:26:23 AM
Hirty Darry anyone that knows anything about hurling knows that cushendall will win.. You nobody

Scoreline flattered cushendall was at least a 10 point game they were brutal could not deal with the pace we played at second half. See them pups they didn't just bark they bit too and that the start of the domination for the next 10 years

And you can believe that
few more academy sessions needed before world domination kicks off?? :o

Hard to hide it SG  ;)

Welcome back
nothing hard to hide at all.  had my neighbors got out of ulster id have supported them like i do all ulster teams.   simply a small poke at the lad above who had the next 10 years wrapped up.

Agree he was asking for it but you only show up for the pis.ing contest
classy as ever
. ahh will you f**king stop!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:55:43 PM
hard luck dunloy.was a big ask for a very young team.   it was a bit of bloody banter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 09, 2017, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 08, 2017, 11:55:43 PM
hard luck dunloy.was a big ask for a very young team.   it was a bit of bloody banter.

Fair enough

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 12:20:32 AM
I wise google search will tell anyone that a mistake which makes you humble is better than an achievement that makes you arrogant

We've had a good year all in all but we've a bit of climbing to do to really mix it with seasoned teams in their absolute prime with that aura about them. We came up against that today and simply weren't good enough for them. Tomorrows a different day and hopefully we'll have tussles in the years to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
2 Derry teams putting out Antrim teams! Fair play to whatever they are doing in Derry club hurling but we need to look at why we arent competing with them.. Its a non contest at county level but those results 2 years running doesnt make good reading..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on October 09, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
agree - and according to Michael McShane, SN team had a younger average age than Dunloy yesterday !

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
2 Derry teams putting out Antrim teams! Fair play to whatever they are doing in Derry club hurling but we need to look at why we arent competing with them.. Its a non contest at county level but those results 2 years running doesnt make good reading..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
2 Derry teams putting out Antrim teams! Fair play to whatever they are doing in Derry club hurling but we need to look at why we arent competing with them.. Its a non contest at county level but those results 2 years running doesnt make good reading..

SN are just in one of those periods for the club that they have a great bunch all together, looking at the under age results they are not bringing much through so they may have to make hay.

Lavey are a senior team and expected them to win this one.

We can learn from them in terms of the way the approach these games and the physicality they bring, but I wouldnt be panicking just yet.


Ps must be galling for Ballycastle to watch two of their own club men involved yesterday with them pretty much in crisis mode.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 09, 2017, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: faughs on October 09, 2017, 09:33:43 AM
agree - and according to Michael McShane, SN team had a younger average age than Dunloy yesterday !

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
2 Derry teams putting out Antrim teams! Fair play to whatever they are doing in Derry club hurling but we need to look at why we arent competing with them.. Its a non contest at county level but those results 2 years running doesnt make good reading..

It's all relevant as you can have young lads out on the periphery with a seasoned core and that's fine. It's different when the core of the team is taking its baby steps at senior championship hurling.

We learned nothing yesterday against Lisbellaw and emptied the bench very early on. Our point taking from distance has improved and we'd a better shape to us than we had in the last two games against Portaferry on a very tight pitch.

We need space and a dry sod and we'll get neither in two weeks time in Armagh I'd presume.
Nothing to lose, go out and give it a lash would be my mantra to our lads.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on October 09, 2017, 10:09:48 AM
Just because Dunloy lost yesterday doesnt mean they wont dominate Antrim for the next 10 years. from what i seen they hammered Cushendall who only just got over the line against Loughgiel and bar them two teams there isnt much else...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 10:19:25 AM
Doesn't mean we will either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 09, 2017, 10:24:10 AM
disappointing  yday but more so that we didn't play at all. Sneill didn't allow them to hurl whatsoever and you have to give them credit for that. in terms of Sneill as team i think they are an experienced well worn side who have been playing ulster for the past 5 years. they have been constantly training for the whole time competing and winning so as a squad they are well gelled together.

Our lads before this year didnt win a cship game worth noting for 3 years prior to this season so everything that has been achieved has been a great bonus.

we will take a well earned break continue to build the team

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Franko on October 09, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
Dunloy will be back, but so will Slaughtneil.

I can see these two teams competing regularly for USHC honours for a few years to come and with both sides being so young I'd hope we have some cracking encounters ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Sleeping Giant and Jesusjones

The pups may not have bit yesterday and there may be a few more academy sessions needed as you both say. It is though great to be back at the top of Antrim hurling which was the main aim for us. I hope you 2 enjoyed that success which is sad really but in reality its all you will have for the foreseeable future as loughguille/cushendall are well behind us and we are only getting started.

Slaughtneil a very good team and no doubt they will improve year on year as will we and it will be interesting the next time we meet which will be next year I can safely say

A great year from our boys you can hold your heads up high and never worry about the keyboard warriors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 09, 2017, 12:08:38 PM
Got listening to a bit of Sidey and Tosh on the radio on the way home.

Sidey made a comment about how come there were 6k in Owenbeg to watch two club teams in the Ulster Club championship, yet if Derry and Antrim were to play at the same venue in the Ulster Championship there'd only be 300 odd at it. No answers were forthcoming from the mighty tosh other than gushing over Slaughtneil.

IMO it's very simple.
Firstly clubs are more evenly matched in terms of resources and secondly you're only 60 odd minutes away from an AI final where you've a real chance to compete as can be seen by the Dall getting to a recent final and Loughgeil winning in a few years prior to it.

The current Ulster Championship is a total waste of time and should possibly be mothballed till it can become meaningful again.

The Ulster Council should put the huge resources that go behind it to better use elsewhere in hurling  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Sleeping Giant and Jesusjones

The pups may not have bit yesterday and there may be a few more academy sessions needed as you both say. It is though great to be back at the top of Antrim hurling which was the main aim for us. I hope you 2 enjoyed that success which is sad really but in reality its all you will have for the foreseeable future as loughguille/cushendall are well behind us and we are only getting started.

Slaughtneil a very good team and no doubt they will improve year on year as will we and it will be interesting the next time we meet which will be next year I can safely say

A great year from our boys you can hold your heads up high and never worry about the keyboard warriors
i didn't enjoy anything about it.  it was simply a small dig at you after your mad comment.  had Dunloy won ulster id have no problem supporting them across the border.  so chill man!!   also when's the last time use beat loughgiel in championship?  id doubt its just gonna be straight forward dominantion.  it is great for Antrim hurling that a young dunloy team is back and back to stay, but don't go ingraving big ears years in advance mate. just incase  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 09, 2017, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Sleeping Giant and Jesusjones

The pups may not have bit yesterday and there may be a few more academy sessions needed as you both say. It is though great to be back at the top of Antrim hurling which was the main aim for us. I hope you 2 enjoyed that success which is sad really but in reality its all you will have for the foreseeable future as loughguille/cushendall are well behind us and we are only getting started.

Slaughtneil a very good team and no doubt they will improve year on year as will we and it will be interesting the next time we meet which will be next year I can safely say

A great year from our boys you can hold your heads up high and never worry about the keyboard warriors
i didn't enjoy anything about it.  it was simply a small dig at you after your mad comment.  had Dunloy won ulster id have no problem supporting them across the border.  so chill man!!   also when's the last time use beat loughgiel in championship?  id doubt its just gonna be straight forward dominantion.  it is great for Antrim hurling that a young dunloy team is back and back to stay, but don't go ingraving big ears years in advance mate. just incase  :o

Instead of bragging about who is better can we not discuss how a Derry club has beat the Antrim champions two years in a row
I was in Armagh last year for the Ulster final  for SN v LG
Same pattern
Wasn't the hurling that let us down but being subjected to containment due to superior physical conditioning
SN has a serious player base to select from at underage compared to Antrim clubs and can be more selective about what type of player to draw on
Strong athletic and a great desire to close down ball holders
We also lost the Christy ring to big strong men
Are we falling behind on the S&C side of things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 09, 2017, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Sleeping Giant and Jesusjones

The pups may not have bit yesterday and there may be a few more academy sessions needed as you both say. It is though great to be back at the top of Antrim hurling which was the main aim for us. I hope you 2 enjoyed that success which is sad really but in reality its all you will have for the foreseeable future as loughguille/cushendall are well behind us and we are only getting started.

Slaughtneil a very good team and no doubt they will improve year on year as will we and it will be interesting the next time we meet which will be next year I can safely say

A great year from our boys you can hold your heads up high and never worry about the keyboard warriors
i didn't enjoy anything about it.  it was simply a small dig at you after your mad comment.  had Dunloy won ulster id have no problem supporting them across the border.  so chill man!!   also when's the last time use beat loughgiel in championship?  id doubt its just gonna be straight forward dominantion.  it is great for Antrim hurling that a young dunloy team is back and back to stay, but don't go ingraving big ears years in advance mate. just incase  :o

Instead of bragging about who is better can we not discuss how a Derry club has beat the Antrim champions two years in a row
I was in Armagh last year for the Ulster final  for SN v LG
Same pattern
Wasn't the hurling that let us down but being subjected to containment due to superior physical conditioning
SN has a serious player base to select from at underage compared to Antrim clubs and can be more selective about what type of player to draw on
Strong athletic and a great desire to close down ball holders
We also lost the Christy ring to big strong men
Are we falling behind on the S&C side of things

I think it came a year or too early for Dunloy and to be fair they ran into a battle hardened outfit in SN. There is always a mix required especially in these bigger games, you need the light fast forwards but you always need ball winners to go with them. Across Antrim we are probably suffering slightly at the minute with producing strong men/ characters that can play and win their own ball.

The game has changed tactically with the possession type game, but to be successful on days like yesterday you basically need to front up and win your battle man on man and if your team is winning 70% plus of these then you are going places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 09, 2017, 04:21:25 PM
the first 5 mins we got to hurl but from that point on wards Sneill shut us down up front. They closed down the space and surrounded each and every person on the ball. i was impressed with how they closed us down in terms of possession and work rate.

Do i think they are a better hurling side, no, but they do have a brilliant work rate for the full hour and their hunger and desire is hard to match. they are most def a well drilled team who have been pushing at this for the past 5 years and it showed yesterday.

I wasnt gutted about being beat yday rather disappointed we didn't show up the same as we did in the Antrim final. Its been a great year for the club and with 3 more finals this weekend in football and camogie we still have a lot to look forward to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BlacknAmber on October 09, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
2 Derry teams putting out Antrim teams! Fair play to whatever they are doing in Derry club hurling but we need to look at why we arent competing with them.. Its a non contest at county level but those results 2 years running doesnt make good reading..

SN are just in one of those periods for the club that they have a great bunch all together, looking at the under age results they are not bringing much through so they may have to make hay.

Lavey are a senior team and expected them to win this one.

We can learn from them in terms of the way the approach these games and the physicality they bring, but I wouldnt be panicking just yet.


Ps must be galling for Ballycastle to watch two of their own club men involved yesterday with them pretty much in crisis mode.

Not galling at all...the town people wish Michael & Cormac every success with SN, they are clubmen through and through and always will be. They've served time in our club, it's our players that need to step up and show their worth & hunger. I've no doubt the two lads will be back at the helm in the future....when our lads have decided to commit to the cause. Best of luck to Michael, Cormac & the SN panel in the Ulster final. Doing fine work there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: BlacknAmber on October 09, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
Not galling at all...the town people wish Michael & Cormac every success with SN, they are clubmen through and through and always will be. They've served time in our club, it's our players that need to step up and show their worth & hunger. I've no doubt the two lads will be back at the helm in the future....when our lads have decided to commit to the cause. Best of luck to Michael, Cormac & the SN panel in the Ulster final. Doing fine work there!

Best of luck to the loyal footmen in the years ahead who be doing the heavy lifting in their club trying to turn things around. Without them there'd never be a need for the cavalry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 05:06:48 PM
twice in the history of the ulster championship.  hardly major cause for concern.  it's just a really good solid Slaughneil team.  asking questions about why or how is a small bit disrespectful to them.  simply put there a very good team.  be interested to see if they win ulster what they've taken out of last years AI semi and if they've learnt much     i believe it's Munster opposition this time round. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 05:06:48 PM
twice in the history of the ulster championship.  hardly major cause for concern.  it's just a really good solid Slaughneil team.  asking questions about why or how is a small bit disrespectful to them.  simply put there a very good team.  be interested to see if they win ulster what they've taken out of last years AI semi and if they've learnt much     i believe it's Munster opposition this time round.

That Dublin team was very very good .. Munster opposition haven't been setting the club scene on fire but at that stage they are all decent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2017, 05:34:51 PM
The dublin team hammered everyone. Slaughtneil did not far off as well as the clare team in the final when you think about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 09, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
Sleeping Giant and Jesusjones

The pups may not have bit yesterday and there may be a few more academy sessions needed as you both say. It is though great to be back at the top of Antrim hurling which was the main aim for us. I hope you 2 enjoyed that success which is sad really but in reality its all you will have for the foreseeable future as loughguille/cushendall are well behind us and we are only getting started.

Slaughtneil a very good team and no doubt they will improve year on year as will we and it will be interesting the next time we meet which will be next year I can safely say

A great year from our boys you can hold your heads up high and never worry about the keyboard warriors

You won an Antrim championship. That's it. I see you've took no notice of getting your wings clipped by Slaughtneil, you should really be a bit more humble because your doing yourself and your club no favours. Yes I've no doubt Dunloy will win more titles in the next 10 years but I'd bet so will we and so will Loughgiel (far be it from me to big up Loughgiel but did you beat them this year at all?), Ballycastle also have the potential but would need to deal with their obvious issues. We won 2 in a row in 05 and 06 with McManus, Graffin, McGill and Shane McNaughton coming through as minors and everyone said we would dominate for 10 years. It didn't happen like that. Jim Nelson landed in Loughgiel and turned a team that had lost 6 in a row into All Ireland Champions. You are guaranteed nothing next season or any season. I'd say in 1986 Ballycastle would have thought they'd win more. And the following year Rossa were in an All Ireland Final, I bet they thought they'd win more than 1 championship in the following 30 years. You'd be best taking your medicine quietly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on October 09, 2017, 06:36:24 PM
Is the Dunloy team really as young as what is being said on here.  I know they have a few younger players who are 18 /19. Few of last years minor team. But as for the rest I thought they were long standing senior players but not sure ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 09, 2017, 05:06:48 PM
twice in the history of the ulster championship.  hardly major cause for concern.  it's just a really good solid Slaughneil team.  asking questions about why or how is a small bit disrespectful to them.  simply put there a very good team.  be interested to see if they win ulster what they've taken out of last years AI semi and if they've learnt much     i believe it's Munster opposition this time round.

That Dublin team was very very good .. Munster opposition haven't been setting the club scene on fire but at that stage they are all decent
i didn't say they weren't.  but for a team that hadn't played at that level before it was a learning curve. loughgiel first time around against O Loughlin Gaels was a learning curve.  the bigger stage the smaller things come to matter.  was simply saying it will be nice to see what they took from last years game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 06:58:26 PM
Old timers

It's a mixture of youth and experience with much more young blood to be added to that over the next few years. Average age of 24 yesterday all with plenty of years left yet

Jesus jones

Yes we were clipped by Slaughtneil just like use were clipped in the Antrim final. Just you keep cracking jokes about our academy if that makes you fell better about that hiding use took in ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 09, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
Yeah I'd say that's a long the right lines MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 09, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 07:15:02 PM
Not sure he's from Dunloy....

Not a chance he's from Dunloy!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2017, 08:36:58 PM
One things for sure .... arrogance never made a player/team a better player/team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 09:16:28 PM
Sleeping giant

1st time on this and no need for insults just because you disagree with my opinion. You make smart comments about my club I will respond like you would about yours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2017, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 09:16:28 PM
Sleeping giant

1st time on this and no need for insults just because you disagree with my opinion. You make smart comments about my club I will respond like you would about yours

And did you read the rules?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 10, 2017, 12:58:19 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 09, 2017, 09:16:28 PM
Sleeping giant

1st time on this and no need for insults just because you disagree with my opinion. You make smart comments about my club I will respond like you would about yours

Dude stop using people's first names
being a bell end is your choice but don't expose anyone's ID on here
Reporting you here now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on October 10, 2017, 08:10:37 AM
The thing about it is that Slaughtneils average age was younger than Dunloys at the weekend.  This team will be about for a while yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
McQuillan's whatsapp group has been shut down.  There have been some mildly dissenting voices on it recently.
Pravda has been redesigned and will now take the form of an emailed newsheet
::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 12, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
McQuillan's whatsapp group has been shut down.  There have been some mildly dissenting voices on it recently.
Pravda has been redesigned and will now take the form of an emailed newsheet
::)

Stupid to ever have used it in the first place. Once the whinging starts ......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
McQuillan's whatsapp group has been shut down.  There have been some mildly dissenting voices on it recently.
Pravda has been redesigned and will now take the form of an emailed newsheet
::)

Stupid to ever have used it in the first place. Once the whinging starts ......

Agreed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 05:36:28 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
McQuillan's whatsapp group has been shut down.  There have been some mildly dissenting voices on it recently.
Pravda has been redesigned and will now take the form of an emailed newsheet
::)

Stupid to ever have used it in the first place. Once the whinging starts ......

Surprised that anybody on here would characterise disagreement as whinging.  It's what makes this place tick.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2017, 08:08:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2017, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 12, 2017, 09:56:11 AM
Quote from: Glentaisie on October 12, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
McQuillan's whatsapp group has been shut down.  There have been some mildly dissenting voices on it recently.
Pravda has been redesigned and will now take the form of an emailed newsheet
::)

Stupid to ever have used it in the first place. Once the whinging starts ......

Agreed!

I saw some content of our players WhatsApp group, was embarrassing stuff & should only be used for training times/venues etc, in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 13, 2017, 03:24:37 PM
Handy one to get the ball rolling





Allianz Hurling League Division 1B

Round 1: Saturday, January 27th: Dublin v Offaly; Sunday January 28th: Galway v Antrim, Limerick v Laois

Round 2: Saturday, February 3rd: Laois v Galway; Sunday February 4th: Antrim v Dublin, Offaly v Limerick

Round 3: Saturday, February 17th: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Dublin; Sunday, February 18th: Galway v Offaly

Round 4: Sunday, February 25th: Antrim v Limerick, Dublin v Galway, Offaly v Laois

Round 5: Sunday, March 4th: Galway v Limerick, Laois v Dublin, Offaly v Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 13, 2017, 04:40:38 PM
It's a shame we didn't draw a home tie with Galway, would have helped massively to promote hurling up here having the All Ireland Champions visit. As it is we have two good home games to look forward to with a new look Dublin side who maybe will have Diarmuid Connelly in the panel and a good young Limerick side with plenty of All Ireland U21 winners in the ranks.

Put away games with Laois and Offaly will be massive in trying to maintain our position in 1B
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on October 13, 2017, 06:41:19 PM
3 out of 5 away games in the hurling
4 out of 7 away games in the futball

Just our luck eh :-\

Worked out Antrim have 5 times more travelling than Laois and Offaly to do

Antrim 3 away games 1000kms
Dublin 3 away games  500km
Limerick 3 away games 650kms
Galway 2 away games 350kms
Offaly 2 away games 200kms
Laois 2 away games 200kms

The weakest team with a gruelling schedule relative to our close rivals who'll be fed and watered long before songs of praise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 17, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
There seems to be more interest in promoting that ridiculous 11 a side tournament in America than there is in promoting any kind of hurling north of the border.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 17, 2017, 09:30:07 PM
Don't worry we'll get our usual pat on the head and aren't we doing well to keep it alive up there and the end of the league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 18, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
There seems to be more interest in promoting that ridiculous 11 a side tournament in America than there is in promoting any kind of hurling north of the border.

The Black North is as foreign to some of them as America is..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 18, 2017, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 18, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
There seems to be more interest in promoting that ridiculous 11 a side tournament in America than there is in promoting any kind of hurling north of the border.

The Black North is as foreign to some of them as America is..

Jesus lads, would you ever listen to yourselves????? Are you not happy to at least be playing in Division 1B????

The reality is that, if Antrim are ever going to do anything, we are ultimately going to have to do it ourselves. Alone. That's the simple truth of it.

Any "help" from elsewhere should be seen as the bonus that it is but, fundamentally, it has to come from within. Looking to / blaming outsiders, the GAA hierarchy, the South, partitionism, whatever you're having yourself, for the current and future state of Antrim hurling might make us feel better but ultimately gets us absolutely nowhere.

Hurling in Antrim has several unique disadvantages - distance from other hurling counties (apologies to Down and Derry), an occasionally hostile environment.

It also has several advantages. In particular, it has the biggest potential pick of any county outside of Dublin. If we ever got ourselves sorted, we could be a really serious hurling county.

Right now, I'd just like to win a minor match outside of Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on October 18, 2017, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 18, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 17, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
There seems to be more interest in promoting that ridiculous 11 a side tournament in America than there is in promoting any kind of hurling north of the border.

The Black North is as foreign to some of them as America is..

Jesus lads, would you ever listen to yourselves????? Are you not happy to at least be playing in Division 1B????

The reality is that, if Antrim are ever going to do anything, we are ultimately going to have to do it ourselves. Alone. That's the simple truth of it.

Any "help" from elsewhere should be seen as the bonus that it is but, fundamentally, it has to come from within. Looking to / blaming outsiders, the GAA hierarchy, the South, partitionism, whatever you're having yourself, for the current and future state of Antrim hurling might make us feel better but ultimately gets us absolutely nowhere.

Hurling in Antrim has several unique disadvantages - distance from other hurling counties (apologies to Down and Derry), an occasionally hostile environment.

It also has several advantages. In particular, it has the biggest potential pick of any county outside of Dublin. If we ever got ourselves sorted, we could be a really serious hurling county.

Right now, I'd just like to win a minor match outside of Ulster.

No Antrim team in Mageean Final for first time in a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Derry dominance!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on October 18, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Derry dominance!!

Crisis!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on October 18, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Derry dominance!!

Crisis!

;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 18, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2017, 08:16:09 PM
Derry dominance!!

An Dun combined colleges.

We'd six lads on the team and another came on as a sub.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:32:14 PM
where is this An Dun side picked from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 18, 2017, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 18, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:32:14 PM
where is this An Dun side picked from?
Carlow.

It's a new cross community team from east Belfast, out to Ballybean and Dundonald .
They've taken to the hurling like pallets to a bonfire in July.....


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 24, 2017, 07:48:28 AM
Shorty retired according to the Irish News, owes the county nothing. Enjoy Shorty!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 24, 2017, 09:32:26 AM
county met them last week, 8 of our panel. Shorty decided to call it a day. fair play to him as he has been a good servant to the county shirt over the years and will be badly missed.
Ryan elliott, nigel elliott, woody, eamon smyth, conal cunning, keelan molloy and Eoin O'Neill have all committed to the panel for next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 10:02:26 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 24, 2017, 09:32:26 AM
county met them last week, 8 of our panel. Shorty decided to call it a day. fair play to him as he has been a good servant to the county shirt over the years and will be badly missed.
Ryan elliott, nigel elliott, woody, eamon smyth, conal cunning, keelan molloy and Eoin O'Neill have all committed to the panel for next year

Thats a good set of lads that have committed, hopefully Antrim can make a fist of it this year, competitive from the start, regardless of the away games..

set realistic goals for theselves as players when they step out on to the pitch, have the prep done personally before getting start of the season and come in mentally ready.. too many times our lads (understandably in some cases) go out beaten already before a puck!! Losing their personal battle with their opposite number and chasing shadows.. Respect other teams yes! but respect your team/county also!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on October 24, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
well lets just hope the "committment" lasts from everyone involved.  From what I remember of last year there were a lot that dropped out before the campaign even began. Only time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 24, 2017, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: old timers on October 24, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
well lets just hope the "committment" lasts from everyone involved.  From what I remember of last year there were a lot that dropped out before the campaign even began. Only time will tell

Was this not the exact plan of the tough training regime?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on October 24, 2017, 02:32:30 PM
Article in the Irish News today in which Geoff Laverty lambasts the Ulster '5 year rule'. Cloughmills are the innocent victims but I agree with the foundations of the rule - to stop clubs taking the easy option of dropping down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 24, 2017, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 24, 2017, 02:32:30 PM
Article in the Irish News today in which Geoff Laverty lambasts the Ulster '5 year rule'. Cloughmills are the innocent victims but I agree with the foundations of the rule - to stop clubs taking the easy option of dropping down.

If you are good enough to win a JHC or IHC it is a sad reflection on you if your ambition stops there even if a senior is a stretch. Its a fair system and gives developing teams a chance. I know its been a tough year for them but surprised at this all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 24, 2017, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 24, 2017, 02:32:30 PM
Article in the Irish News today in which Geoff Laverty lambasts the Ulster '5 year rule'. Cloughmills are the innocent victims but I agree with the foundations of the rule - to stop clubs taking the easy option of dropping down.

Couldn't disagree with the principle but I think 3 years is probably fairer to avoid the yo-yo effect but also stop clubs taking advantage. I think Lisbellaw have got similarly caught by the rule which means that they are obliged to play in the Ulster Senior Championship every year (there being - I understand - no Fermanagh championship)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 24, 2017, 04:20:26 PM
Keady suffered with the same problem a few years ago, having to enter senior (they did do well in fairness) for that period also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2017, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on October 24, 2017, 02:32:30 PM
Article in the Irish News today in which Geoff Laverty lambasts the Ulster '5 year rule'. Cloughmills are the innocent victims but I agree with the foundations of the rule - to stop clubs taking the easy option of dropping down.

Any time a non Antrim team win Ulster at intermediate they have this side effect. Cloughmills have scope to kick on and improve whereas the likes of Lisbellaw are thrown in at the deep end with no progression during the year.

I think the ruling is from Croke Park though and not Ulster, but I would shorten it to 3 years all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
i see why hes annoyed at the ruling but at the same time whats the point in dropping down into whats comfortable when its tough?

5 years imo opinion is far too long if you dont have an under system to have a flow of players into the panel each season and they dont have a reserve team either but whos fault is that? i would like to see Cmills do well but realistically when they dont have an underage system nor do i see one at grass roots level - maybe im wrong here and will stand corrected but if other clubs like Moneyglass etc can all make strives to get underage hurling going then theres no reason why they cant.

3 years as JC says would be suffice for this ruling but if you have a degree of ambition to make it and improve your club you will take the hard knocks and set backs and keep going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on October 25, 2017, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
i see why hes annoyed at the ruling but at the same time whats the point in dropping down into whats comfortable when its tough?

5 years imo opinion is far too long if you dont have an under system to have a flow of players into the panel each season and they dont have a reserve team either but whos fault is that? i would like to see Cmills do well but realistically when they dont have an underage system nor do i see one at grass roots level - maybe im wrong here and will stand corrected but if other clubs like Moneyglass etc can all make strives to get underage hurling going then theres no reason why they cant.

3 years as JC says would be suffice for this ruling but if you have a degree of ambition to make it and improve your club you will take the hard knocks and set backs and keep going.

Middletown and Carrickmore played just before our senior semi-final with Lisbellaw and TBH both would have beaten Lisbellaw based on what transpired after that.
I'm not even sure Lisbellaw have a competitor in Fermanagh so for the next while they're thrown in at the deep end against teams playing at a much higher level week in week out and that's where there may be an issue.
The Tain league isn't bringing these teams on as most results seem to be CONC or played at spurious times of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2017, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 25, 2017, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 25, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
i see why hes annoyed at the ruling but at the same time whats the point in dropping down into whats comfortable when its tough?

5 years imo opinion is far too long if you dont have an under system to have a flow of players into the panel each season and they dont have a reserve team either but whos fault is that? i would like to see Cmills do well but realistically when they dont have an underage system nor do i see one at grass roots level - maybe im wrong here and will stand corrected but if other clubs like Moneyglass etc can all make strives to get underage hurling going then theres no reason why they cant.

3 years as JC says would be suffice for this ruling but if you have a degree of ambition to make it and improve your club you will take the hard knocks and set backs and keep going.

Middletown and Carrickmore played just before our senior semi-final with Lisbellaw and TBH both would have beaten Lisbellaw based on what transpired after that.
I'm not even sure Lisbellaw have a competitor in Fermanagh so for the next while they're thrown in at the deep end against teams playing at a much higher level week in week out and that's where there may be an issue.
The Tain league isn't bringing these teams on as most results seem to be CONC or played at spurious times of the year.

So do we open up an all Ulster league ? (been down before in early Spring) with decent fixturing in th eright time of the year, i.e with a bit of effort from the Ulster Council and some finance to back up the costs of traveling and so on, would it work?

Setanta hammered Gorts so on face value they are at an Antrim div 2 standard.. Lavey blew away Sarsfields so they would be playing at senior standard Middletown certainly at the very least div 2 in an Antrim league set up Of course S'neil and Dungiven could potentially be playing at senior level.. Probably too much to sort out, as you have the the dual codes and the seperate county boards, but the question would be.....

Would it raise the standards across Ulster, or would the cry be from Antrim, that its bring the standard down?, though based on S'Neil's two wins we wouldnt have a leg to stand on!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2017, 02:08:41 PM
Was reading somewhere today (possibly Curly McIlwaine's facebook) that this 5 year is only in place in Ulster and only for hurling. Why is hurling in Ulster targeted specifically? 5 years is far too long a cycle, especially for smaller clubs where a lot of boys can come and go in 5 years due to economic reasons etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 25, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
The Tain league would appear to be a bit of a joke. None of the Antrim, Derry or Down (bar those from South Down) teams bother with it.

TBH anything hurling related that Ulster organises turns out to be a cack handed load of crap.

This coming from a provincial council that could not run off a 3 team championship a few years ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 25, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 25, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
The Tain league would appear to be a bit of a joke. None of the Antrim, Derry or Down (bar those from South Down) teams bother with it.

TBH anything hurling related that Ulster organises turns out to be a cack handed load of crap.

This coming from a provincial council that could not run off a 3 team championship a few years ago.

Is there not a Hurling Development Manager for Ulster?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 25, 2017, 04:24:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 25, 2017, 02:08:41 PM
Was reading somewhere today (possibly Curly McIlwaine's facebook) that this 5 year is only in place in Ulster and only for hurling. Why is hurling in Ulster targeted specifically? 5 years is far too long a cycle, especially for smaller clubs where a lot of boys can come and go in 5 years due to economic reasons etc.

are they not tied into the senior hurling championship as well for a number of years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 25, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
Tier 2 Hurling Championship fixtures announced today. Antrim fixtures are as follows

1. An Mhí v Aontroim
2. Aontroim v Ceatharlach
3. Aontroim v Laois
4. An Iarmhí v Aontroim
5. Aontroim v Ciarraí

Not a bad draw for us at all

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Dunloy well beaten in the Ulster minor championship. What is it about this competition that Antrim teams don't have a great record in it?

Down 9 points in first four minutes and lost by nine
2 scores from play not good enough
Every time we ran at them we got a free
We where missing Shan Elliott and anton Mc grath
Dungiven very physical and a lot of our large players not interested
Think we are all going a bit soft over this side of the Bann
Dungiven goalie was outstanding
Stopped some bullets the whole match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Dunloy well beaten in the Ulster minor championship. What is it about this competition that Antrim teams don't have a great record in it?

Down 9 points in first four minutes and lost by nine
2 scores from play not good enough
Every time we ran at them we got a free
We where missing Shan Elliott and anton Mc grath
Dungiven very physical and a lot of our large players not interested
Think we are all going a bit soft over this side of the Bann
Dungiven goalie was outstanding
Stopped some bullets the whole match
It's strange. We play in the same league and our teams would be beating them comfortably enough throughout the year but often fail to produce in this competition.
I agree
We win it last year but fell heavily to slaughtneil the year before
Personally I think if Derry jacked the big ball they would be beating us handy a county level every year
We where shut down today the same as the senior ulster final
We need to much space to hurl and don't respond well to teams that bring intense tackling
Dungiven where more efficient in possession to
The question is are we lagging behind counties now we use to trounce both at club and county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Dunloy well beaten in the Ulster minor championship. What is it about this competition that Antrim teams don't have a great record in it?

Down 9 points in first four minutes and lost by nine
2 scores from play not good enough
Every time we ran at them we got a free
We where missing Shan Elliott and anton Mc grath
Dungiven very physical and a lot of our large players not interested
Think we are all going a bit soft over this side of the Bann
Dungiven goalie was outstanding
Stopped some bullets the whole match
It's strange. We play in the same league and our teams would be beating them comfortably enough throughout the year but often fail to produce in this competition.
I agree
We win it last year but fell heavily to slaughtneil the year before
Personally I think if Derry jacked the big ball they would be beating us handy a county level every year
We where shut down today the same as the senior ulster final
We need to much space to hurl and don't respond well to teams that bring intense tackling
Dungiven where more efficient in possession to
The question is are we lagging behind counties now we use to trounce both at club and county

I've said it for years!! If Derry were serious about hurling, they'd be a force!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 13, 2017, 07:54:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 11, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
Dunloy well beaten in the Ulster minor championship. What is it about this competition that Antrim teams don't have a great record in it?

Down 9 points in first four minutes and lost by nine
2 scores from play not good enough
Every time we ran at them we got a free
We where missing Shan Elliott and anton Mc grath
Dungiven very physical and a lot of our large players not interested
Think we are all going a bit soft over this side of the Bann
Dungiven goalie was outstanding
Stopped some bullets the whole match
It's strange. We play in the same league and our teams would be beating them comfortably enough throughout the year but often fail to produce in this competition.
I agree
We win it last year but fell heavily to slaughtneil the year before
Personally I think if Derry jacked the big ball they would be beating us handy a county level every year
We where shut down today the same as the senior ulster final
We need to much space to hurl and don't respond well to teams that bring intense tackling
Dungiven where more efficient in possession to
The question is are we lagging behind counties now we use to trounce both at club and county

I've said it for years!! If Derry were serious about hurling, they'd be a force!

A force where, Ulster?

Dont get carried away, they would be beating us more regularly i agree, but a force is a bit much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2017, 08:17:46 AM
We'll never know as football will always hold the aces! But they've had potential just lacked a county board that believes in them...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 13, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
exactly why IMHO its a stupid thing to say.

The same thing could be said in a lot of different county's

just looking at the minor league and Kevin Lynches where getting absolutely hammered by nearly everyone, how come the turnaround.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 13, 2017, 08:45:51 AM
did they have the football lads from the other clubs those games? the big full forward Tiernan is from Drumsurn isnt he?

our boys looked like they wanted to be anywhere but in Screen on sat. To be fair its been a long long season for them all. a lot of them have just done 3 in a row with the minors and play football and are still involved with our u12 footballers as well tomorrow night.

2-02 to no score down inside 5 mins it was game over. it was very disappointing when you consider that those two bad goals it was 2-05 to 0-05 at ht. doesnt help when we were missing 2 strong forwards but it was a minor title we shouldn't of been winning. It was a bonus imo as Rossa were the team who really should of been the team to have won Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 13, 2017, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Megaman on November 13, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
exactly why IMHO its a stupid thing to say.

The same thing could be said in a lot of different county's

just looking at the minor league and Kevin Lynches where getting absolutely hammered by nearly everyone, how come the turnaround.

McHugh and Mullan would have been with Derry minor footballers all year and would have missed a lot of games due to that.
Maybe a few talented u16s didn't play in antrim league but came in for derry championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on November 14, 2017, 07:29:59 PM
Folks, if a player transferred from an Antrim club to a club in England, can he transfer back when university finishes to his club in Antrim and be eligible for Antrim Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2017, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: Link on November 13, 2017, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Megaman on November 13, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
exactly why IMHO its a stupid thing to say.

The same thing could be said in a lot of different county's

just looking at the minor league and Kevin Lynches where getting absolutely hammered by nearly everyone, how come the turnaround.

McHugh and Mullan would have been with Derry minor footballers all year and would have missed a lot of games due to that.
Maybe a few talented u16s didn't play in antrim league but came in for derry championship.

It is a lot more straight forward than this lads, Antrim teams struggle in this competition mainly due to the conditions and the time of the year.

Yes there is work to do in terms of physicality but when the ball is moving faster during the summer skill levels and hurling count for more and this is demonstrated in the league scroes etc.

Yes maybe there is an element of softness but when the antrim lads are geared for summer hurling they arent able to transfer this across as easily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:17 PM
Well folks tis the time of year when the managerial merry-go- round gets underway; Any updates anyone...
- Cushendall will be receiving their candidates this Sunday i believe - a few different names being touted here;
- Johnny Tosh already turned down Ballycastle - but will the be playing in Div 2 next year?;
- Glenariffe another year another manager required - u cant buy success;
- Loughguile still not ratified but expect Johnny still to be in charge;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:17 PM
Well folks tis the time of year when the managerial merry-go- round gets underway; Any updates anyone...
- Cushendall will be receiving their candidates this Sunday i believe - a few different names being touted here;
- Johnny Tosh already turned down Ballycastle - but will the be playing in Div 2 next year?;
- Glenariffe another year another manager required - u cant buy success;
- Loughguile still not ratified but expect Johnny still to be in charge;

Heard a big name looking to be in with Cushendall, could be interesting.
I heard PJ is looking a return to Loughguile.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:17 PM
Well folks tis the time of year when the managerial merry-go- round gets underway; Any updates anyone...
- Cushendall will be receiving their candidates this Sunday i believe - a few different names being touted here;
- Johnny Tosh already turned down Ballycastle - but will the be playing in Div 2 next year?;
- Glenariffe another year another manager required - u cant buy success;
- Loughguile still not ratified but expect Johnny still to be in charge;

Heard a big name looking to be in with Cushendall, could be interesting.
I heard PJ is looking a return to Loughguile.


Paddy John - Is the big name SAMBO  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2017, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 15, 2017, 03:29:17 PM
Well folks tis the time of year when the managerial merry-go- round gets underway; Any updates anyone...
- Cushendall will be receiving their candidates this Sunday i believe - a few different names being touted here;
- Johnny Tosh already turned down Ballycastle - but will the be playing in Div 2 next year?;
- Glenariffe another year another manager required - u cant buy success;
- Loughguile still not ratified but expect Johnny still to be in charge;

Heard a big name looking to be in with Cushendall, could be interesting.
I heard PJ is looking a return to Loughguile.


Paddy John - Is the big name SAMBO  ;D

No the name I heard, an ex county manager is who it is apparently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on November 15, 2017, 06:23:21 PM
Any word on any new management teams in Div 3/4?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on November 16, 2017, 06:09:28 PM
The big name for Dall manager wouldn't happen to be
Kevin or Sean mcNaughton
There'll be some amount of interviews for
What they are worth !!!!!
Any word on other vacant positions
Carey, Ballycastle, Glenariff !!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Any AGMs already completed with snior managers appointed?

Also anyone hear anything about new structures of leagues - i did hear folk saying that Bcastle would now stay in D1 but i didnt see any recommendations anywhere
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2017, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Any AGMs already completed with snior managers appointed?

Also anyone hear anything about new structures of leagues - i did hear folk saying that Bcastle would now stay in D1 but i didnt see any recommendations anywhere

;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 20, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2017, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Any AGMs already completed with snior managers appointed?

Also anyone hear anything about new structures of leagues - i did hear folk saying that Bcastle would now stay in D1 but i didnt see any recommendations anywhere

;D ;D

Plenty of rumours, by some accounts Ballycastle are not pushing for it. However some in the CCC feel it would be too much to countenance them being in D.2. I'm sure St.Johns might find that hard to swallow when none of the D.1 teams would throw them a rope last year.
The whole thing is bonkers when merit is undermined like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
It will be interesting to see the outcome, if Bcastle do stay up does that mean an odd numbered D1 as cmills def want to go back to D2;
I believe Bcastle would b better in D2 developing the younger players and wining prommotion back the following year;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 20, 2017, 07:20:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 20, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Last Man on November 20, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2017, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Any AGMs already completed with snior managers appointed?

Also anyone hear anything about new structures of leagues - i did hear folk saying that Bcastle would now stay in D1 but i didnt see any recommendations anywhere

;D ;D

Plenty of rumours, by some accounts Ballycastle are not pushing for it. However some in the CCC feel it would be too much to countenance them being in D.2. I'm sure St.Johns might find that hard to swallow when none of the D.1 teams would throw them a rope last year.
The whole thing is bonkers when merit is undermined like this.
I don't think all of the Div 1 teams voted against St Johns last year.
Was at the meeting. Most of them did in fact vote against them to maintain the 8 team league. I take a different view, if you finish in a relegation position you do the right thing and take your medicine.  There's more chance the principle of merit will improve standards than letting teams pick what league they want to be in. What message does it give to young players and how do you manage the expectation that it's easy to get what you want.(only for certain clubs though)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 22, 2017, 09:24:54 AM
the league format has no need of changing again. it works well, all the games were played out and mostly on time. no need to change it or alter it to suit anyone's agenda
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 22, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
Is there any good fitness trainers in NAntrim location ; that maybe arent well known / not associated with hurling - that anyone would recommend; Just wondering as it seems to be the usual merry go round of the same people going from one club to another; Is there trainers out there that dont get the recognition they deserve?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 23, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
So we have a loughguile man in charge of Cdall - obviously the locals weren't deemed fit or maybe just bad at interviews
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 23, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
So we have a loughguile man in charge of Cdall - obviously the locals weren't deemed fit or maybe just bad at interviews

Who were the locals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on November 23, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 23, 2017, 03:33:09 PM
So we have a loughguile man in charge of Cdall - obviously the locals weren't deemed fit or maybe just bad at interviews

I'm assuming it's a Loughgiel man living over that side of the mountain? Eamon Gillen or SP McKillop?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 23, 2017, 04:01:13 PM
Yep Eamon Gillen - apparently Dinny is trainer ;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 23, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on November 23, 2017, 04:01:13 PM
Yep Eamon Gillen - apparently Dinny is trainer ;

Sure thats oul news pal..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on November 29, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
What local Cdall lads were in for it?i cant remember a time an outsider took them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on November 29, 2017, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: let it fly on November 29, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
What local Cdall lads were in for it?i cant remember a time an outsider took them

Incase you weren't aware Eamon has a business and been living in Cushendall for a long time now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 29, 2017, 03:51:40 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 29, 2017, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: let it fly on November 29, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
What local Cdall lads were in for it?i cant remember a time an outsider took them

Incase you weren't aware Eamon has a business and been living in Cushendall for a long time now.

Going by local law Bouncy's kids might get to call themselves Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 29, 2017, 04:30:39 PM
Johnny Campbell back in as Lgiel manager i hear last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on November 30, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Jackie Carson taking Carey I hear
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on December 04, 2017, 04:14:40 PM
Quote from: Megaman on November 29, 2017, 03:15:05 PM
Quote from: let it fly on November 29, 2017, 02:48:24 PM
What local Cdall lads were in for it?i cant remember a time an outsider took them

Incase you weren't aware Eamon has a business and been living in Cushendall for a long time now.

Im aware of that but as far as hurling would go hed always be considered a loughgiel man in Cushendall id imagine, surprised phillip campbell didnt give it one more year after 2 years where it just didnt go right for Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 04, 2017, 11:01:23 PM
I see mcclean soundly beat  for the antrim chair this evening
Lot of Dunloy people didn't even want him in, I think it was the correct decision
Just hope Collie can get things going properly,  did noit like his call
To develop corrigan last year !!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2017, 11:12:01 PM
WE should be developing all our grounds...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 05, 2017, 09:16:31 AM
Same management back in for our seniors for next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 05, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2017, 11:12:01 PM
WE should be developing all our grounds...

I think the criticism is that CD was pushing the development of his own clubs ground at the County's expense.  Certainly leaves himself open encouraging such an initiative

In my opinion Ballymena should be the venue where funds should be directed in that regard. Half an hour from everywhere and more likely to attract SW/NA & SA support   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 05, 2017, 04:03:16 PM
Ballymena is the place for it. Central and good pitch and parking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 05, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
Yeah I agree with development of all our grounds
He was talking about developing it as county ground until
Casement which I  didn't agree with.  Ballymena perfect spot
And should have been as opposed to dunSILLY
BUT from what Ive seen not much research done there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 06, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 05, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
Yeah I agree with development of all our grounds
He was talking about developing it as county ground until
Casement which I  didn't agree with.  Ballymena perfect spot
And should have been as opposed to dunSILLY
BUT from what Ive seen not much research done there

Cant argue with the location of Ballymena and general support for development there, I just cant see how it could be developed into a ground which could hold a big game never mind a series of them?

Cant use the main pitch across the road for any big games because of the lack of changing facilities. Parking is adequate for big juvenile clubs games but outside of that additional space is going to be needed for cars. Where does that come from?

I think it presents more problems than solutions and again it creates the arguement of developing one club's grounds while not doing others.

This is not a slight on the work carried out by All Saints in recent years against a backdrop of resistance, it has been a stirling effort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2017, 10:12:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 06, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 05, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
Yeah I agree with development of all our grounds
He was talking about developing it as county ground until
Casement which I  didn't agree with.  Ballymena perfect spot
And should have been as opposed to dunSILLY
BUT from what Ive seen not much research done there

Cant argue with the location of Ballymena and general support for development there, I just cant see how it could be developed into a ground which could hold a big game never mind a series of them?

Cant use the main pitch across the road for any big games because of the lack of changing facilities. Parking is adequate for big juvenile clubs games but outside of that additional space is going to be needed for cars. Where does that come from?

I think it presents more problems than solutions and again it creates the arguement of developing one club's grounds while not doing others.

This is not a slight on the work carried out by All Saints in recent years against a backdrop of resistance, it has been a stirling effort.

I think if you check back on my posts around the time of the Rasharkin Lamh Dhearg fight, i expressed those concerns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2017, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2017, 10:12:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 06, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 05, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
Yeah I agree with development of all our grounds
He was talking about developing it as county ground until
Casement which I  didn't agree with.  Ballymena perfect spot
And should have been as opposed to dunSILLY
BUT from what Ive seen not much research done there

Cant argue with the location of Ballymena and general support for development there, I just cant see how it could be developed into a ground which could hold a big game never mind a series of them?

Cant use the main pitch across the road for any big games because of the lack of changing facilities. Parking is adequate for big juvenile clubs games but outside of that additional space is going to be needed for cars. Where does that come from?

I think it presents more problems than solutions and again it creates the arguement of developing one club's grounds while not doing others.

This is not a slight on the work carried out by All Saints in recent years against a backdrop of resistance, it has been a stirling effort.

I think if you check back on my posts around the time of the Rasharkin Lamh Dhearg fight, i expressed those concerns.

When one of our better referees was attacked?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 06, 2017, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 06, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Cant argue with the location of Ballymena and general support for development there, I just cant see how it could be developed into a ground which could hold a big game never mind a series of them?

Cant use the main pitch across the road for any big games because of the lack of changing facilities. Parking is adequate for big juvenile clubs games but outside of that additional space is going to be needed for cars. Where does that come from?

I think it presents more problems than solutions and again it creates the arguement of developing one club's grounds while not doing others.

This is not a slight on the work carried out by All Saints in recent years against a backdrop of resistance, it has been a stirling effort.

Its in a great location both in terms of road access and handiness for all of the county. It has space around it (i.e fields) to develop (i.e build stuff on). It would be the obvious place to develop a fanbase for our County teams. Every chance all saints would/have told them they're not interested anyway. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: exiledjohn on December 06, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
While Ballymena as a town is a good central location for Antrim GAA, would the one road pitch access not be an issue if you were to have big attendance at fixtures? 
I know from my own experience the only way I have ever exited is to go back up the single lane road to the junction with the main road at near the rugby club and then head for the motorway. 
Would using B/Mena not mean that the majority of fans would all be exiting the one direction on the one single lane road?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 06, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2017, 10:34:57 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 06, 2017, 10:12:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 06, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 05, 2017, 06:06:47 PM
Yeah I agree with development of all our grounds
He was talking about developing it as county ground until
Casement which I  didn't agree with.  Ballymena perfect spot
And should have been as opposed to dunSILLY
BUT from what Ive seen not much research done there

Cant argue with the location of Ballymena and general support for development there, I just cant see how it could be developed into a ground which could hold a big game never mind a series of them?

Cant use the main pitch across the road for any big games because of the lack of changing facilities. Parking is adequate for big juvenile clubs games but outside of that additional space is going to be needed for cars. Where does that come from?

I think it presents more problems than solutions and again it creates the arguement of developing one club's grounds while not doing others.

This is not a slight on the work carried out by All Saints in recent years against a backdrop of resistance, it has been a stirling effort.

I think if you check back on my posts around the time of the Rasharkin Lamh Dhearg fight, i expressed those concerns.

When one of our better referees was attacked?

Yeah.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 10, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Just felt Ballymena had a great location
Plenty of room, you pump in the money there that had been
Used for dunsilly.  All hypothetical now, but regarding access and
All the Shite surrounding dunsilly and space for parking
Anyway onwards and upwards

Take the point about Referee attack there, a
Disgrace and stronger sanctions required
Great to see eoin Elliot raise the profile
Of referees in Antrim 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 10, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Just felt Ballymena had a great location
Plenty of room, you pump in the money there that had been
Used for dunsilly.  All hypothetical now, but regarding access and
All the Shite surrounding dunsilly and space for parking
Anyway onwards and upwards

Take the point about Referee attack there, a
Disgrace and stronger sanctions required
Great to see eoin Elliot raise the profile
Of referees in Antrim

How?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 11, 2017, 01:55:38 PM
Camogie final, think he was refereeing in Madrid showpiece  also
Pity he couldn't get hurling games I'll take your point on that one
But then some say he comes across as being arrogant. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 11, 2017, 03:43:45 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 11, 2017, 01:55:38 PM
Camogie final, think he was refereeing in Madrid showpiece  also
Pity he couldn't get hurling games I'll take your point on that one
But then some say he comes across as being arrogant.

Never mentioned his personality at all.

My point was more that he has gone down the camogie route which is his decision. Fair enough.

Not raising profile of hurling though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 11, 2017, 04:03:30 PM
Didn't say profile of hurling....

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 11, 2017, 07:13:38 PM
Refereed a few senior games this year I thought?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on December 11, 2017, 08:09:13 PM
Still one of the best Hurling refs in Antrim & Ulster - thankless Job & i feel they should be better rewarded than what they currently get  (i.e. abuse)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 12, 2017, 09:01:13 AM
I thought he was still very active at club level and was on a panel
That organises Referees snd allocates games
You still refereeing MR2 ??!Cunning from Dunloy doing very well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 12, 2017, 09:01:13 AM
I thought he was still very active at club level and was on a panel
That organises Referees snd allocates games
You still refereeing MR2 ??!Cunning from Dunloy doing very well

Still doing a bit, wouldnt be doing a lot of games to be fair, less than 30 last season, not able to committ to as much.. wasnt sure Owen was on the panel for the weekly games, possibly the championship games? would he be an assessor?

Colum doing great, did the line for him in the semi final this year, very professional and a very good style of refereeing, could go very far on the national stage, lot of playing experience coming through while ref'ing

other good ref's out there also that have done well and will hopefully if they are keen push on for a national refereeing step up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on December 13, 2017, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 12, 2017, 09:01:13 AM
I thought he was still very active at club level and was on a panel
That organises Referees snd allocates games
You still refereeing MR2 ??!Cunning from Dunloy doing very well

Still doing a bit, wouldnt be doing a lot of games to be fair, less than 30 last season, not able to committ to as much.. wasnt sure Owen was on the panel for the weekly games, possibly the championship games? would he be an assessor?

Colum doing great, did the line for him in the semi final this year, very professional and a very good style of refereeing, could go very far on the national stage, lot of playing experience coming through while ref'ing

other good ref's out there also that have done well and will hopefully if they are keen push on for a national refereeing step up

Owen Elliott did referee some senior hurling games this year. I remember one in particular were he said to a player who was claiming a free ....

"It's not my fault your 1st touch is so bad"

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 13, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
Reasonable enough comment, probably.  When I was reffing a bit, we had to put up with 60 minutes of non stop yapping & dog's abuse, but you weren't allowed to open your mouth back. Mind you, a well placed one liner usually kept them quiet, for a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2017, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 13, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
Reasonable enough comment, probably.  When I was reffing a bit, we had to put up with 60 minutes of non stop yapping & dog's abuse, but you weren't allowed to open your mouth back. Mind you, a well placed one liner usually kept them quiet, for a while.

I did a bit of reffing myself, used to love the one liners! Never anything really cheeky or severe just enough to let them know i could bite back.

We are blessed with good refs in the county in both football and hurling. Cunning is likely top of the pile along with Mark O'Neill. I watched a few games that McCotter from Sarsfields did, very good also. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2017, 11:28:20 PM
Sure players know the rules inside out! They never make mistakes or foul but best of all the managers and keyboard warriors know it all ;D

I'd a player give off to me the whole game, his team was getting stuffed and he questioned every call by me! Possibly 20 points in it but it was my fault! I said to him if he'd concentrate on marking his man put in an honest shift and defend  without fouling they would have only lost by 15!

Finton Mark Colum All goodins, County have plenty of dedicated lads, no shortage it seems of people willing to put something back into the county, rather than bad mouthing all the time on discussion boards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 14, 2017, 12:58:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2017, 11:28:20 PM
Sure players know the rules inside out! They never make mistakes or foul but best of all the managers and keyboard warriors know it all ;D

I'd a player give off to me the whole game, his team was getting stuffed and he questioned every call by me! Possibly 20 points in it but it was my fault! I said to him if he'd concentrate on marking his man put in an honest shift and defend  without fouling they would have only lost by 15!

Finton Mark Colum All goodins, County have plenty of dedicated lads, no shortage it seems of people willing to put something back into the county, rather than bad mouthing all the time on discussion boards

An opinion is like an asshole, everybody has one and no matter where you go you'll find them.   ;)

Sure that is the beauty of the GAA, we all have our part to play, no matter how small both for club and county. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2017, 01:17:37 PM
Don't beat yourself up too much, your opinions matter ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 14, 2017, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2017, 11:28:20 PM
I'd a player give off to me the whole game, his team was getting stuffed and he questioned every call by me! Possibly 20 points in it but it was my fault!

That was a bit like you, in your pomp. You never kept quiet the whole time. Poacher turned gamekeeper!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2017, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 14, 2017, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2017, 11:28:20 PM
I'd a player give off to me the whole game, his team was getting stuffed and he questioned every call by me! Possibly 20 points in it but it was my fault!

That was a bit like you, in your pomp. You never kept quiet the whole time. Poacher turned gamekeeper!

Lol!! possibly guilty  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 14, 2017, 02:28:05 PM
Just say it......."guilty"!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ashman on December 19, 2017, 11:17:52 PM
Folks

Does anyone have the O Donovan Rossa line out from the 1989 club final ??

Or a link ?

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 20, 2017, 08:37:13 AM
thats the scorers from that final
C Barr 0-5, N Murray 0-2 (2f), J Reilly 0-1, C Murphy 0-1, P Rogan 0-1, D Armstrong 0-1, A Murray 0-1 (1f)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 20, 2017, 08:37:13 AM
thats the scorers from that final
C Barr 0-5, N Murray 0-2 (2f), J Reilly 0-1, C Murphy 0-1, P Rogan 0-1, D Armstrong 0-1, A Murray 0-1 (1f)

Buffers had some auld boy that took them apart! in fairness he was a tasty hurler back in the day thon Tony.. it was one that Rossa could have won
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 20, 2017, 03:19:33 PM
that was a good Rossa team then, they prob should have won the All Ireland that year. When you looked at them on paper they were strong all over the pitch, all big physical men who were good hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on December 20, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
Tony Doran wasnt it played poocher for Buffersalley
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on December 20, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
Tony Doran wasnt it played poocher for Buffersalley

I think i mind him still playing in cushendall a few years later. I think they played them in a semi at home one year.

[edit] in fact that may have been a year previous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 21, 2017, 06:47:18 PM
THInk Mark Barr was around the full back line for rossa
Apparently broke Tony's finger.
Can't remember him playing Cushendall ?  That s
Not to say it didn't happen
Remember Middletown of cork playing the dall
In a semi final up there.  John Fenton untouchable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 21, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Hmm you may be right. Fenton was some operator. They maybe played birr too up there too at one point but the memories are vague now i think about it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on December 22, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 21, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Hmm you may be right. Fenton was some operator. They maybe played birr too up there too at one point but the memories are vague now i think about it.

I remember the Birr game, very young team back then, they provided the backbone of a few Offaly AI U21 and minor winning teams.  Joe Errity was some operator. They did well to put a seasoned Dall team away on their home patch. The pitch was a bog
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2017, 09:23:03 PM
Merry Christmas to all my fellow saffron's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 24, 2017, 11:40:58 PM
Happy Christmas mates and non mates..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on December 28, 2017, 10:48:03 PM
Any word on our panel for the Walsh Cup, away to Meath on Saturday. Be good to kick start the new season with a strong side out and get the win under our belts
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on December 29, 2017, 01:13:22 AM
Any new young additions to panel this year anyone know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 29, 2017, 07:55:57 AM
Woody talking about injections of new talent but no mention of names

https://thesaffrongael.com/2017/12/29/saffs-begin-walsh-cup-with-a-royal-encounter/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on December 30, 2017, 11:31:46 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 29, 2017, 07:55:57 AM
Woody talking about injections of new talent but no mention of names

https://thesaffrongael.com/2017/12/29/saffs-begin-walsh-cup-with-a-royal-encounter/

Unfortunately it's not talking we need- think that's what happened last year- no win today and maybe they should have went for a stronger team - just to get a win IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 31, 2017, 03:11:27 PM
Anyone in trim yesterday
Who played well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 02, 2018, 05:00:59 PM
spoke to a few of our lads who played. said conditions were poor enough and the pitch was very heavy but they didn't seem overally worried about the game. it was a usefully run out for everyone. said the game was pretty even the whole way through it but like previously its like a pre-season game and they were trying people out in different roles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 06, 2018, 03:30:19 PM
Anyone at the Antrim hurling match today. Think the Antrim management team had a howler today in the McGurk cup.  No respect given to the competition whatsoever IMO.  Players out there that shouldn't have been. So many not even match fit let alone up to any standard.  I'm an Antrim supporter all my life and feel so disheartened after watching that.  Hoped that the Tipperary influence would have brought about some change.  Some strange decisions today but none more so than subbing the sub.  Embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on January 06, 2018, 04:49:03 PM
Looking at the team on Facebook, so many players seemed jettisoned in. As far as I can make out, only 8 senior panelists stripped out today.

Seems very shoddy.

I know we play Dublin tomorrow and maybe that's why the team went out the way it did, but Dublin played Tipperary today and some of their big hitters were playing today and will play tomorrow.

Surely we could of put out more senior panelists or used more U21 panelists (I think 3-4 were involved today)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 06, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
Curly Mcilwaine summed it up well today and I was glad to see others feeling the same as myself.
" Antrim are through to the final on score difference but in truth they barely deserve to be in the final so poor was today's display".  Saving players for the Dublin match tomorrow?? There were 4/5 of last years senior panel from what I could see and one was coaxed back to play in that match today.  A lot of others were drafted in for today.  What is that about ? If someone has any insight maybe they could enlighten the rest of us  please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on January 06, 2018, 06:26:59 PM
I think I heard the college players all had to rig out for their college and therefore can't play for county in this competition? I'd prefer not to see more seniors playing today if they are needed tomorrow, especially if the small recovery time lead to an injury that could last months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 06, 2018, 06:52:40 PM
Too many competitions, being played simultaneously, at this time of the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on January 06, 2018, 06:57:42 PM
Possibly; although if organised properly and with the date of u21 Leinster being in May it could be a great way of getting the u21s together from start of Year. That seemed to be what they were going for
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 06, 2018, 07:25:45 PM
Quote from: Gall the way on January 06, 2018, 06:57:42 PM
Possibly; although if organised properly and with the date of u21 Leinster being in May it could be a great way of getting the u21s together from start of Year. That seemed to be what they were going for

that would mean forward planning and  thinking ??  ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 08, 2018, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: old timers on January 06, 2018, 03:30:19 PM
Anyone at the Antrim hurling match today. Think the Antrim management team had a howler today in the McGurk cup.  No respect given to the competition whatsoever IMO.  Players out there that shouldn't have been. So many not even match fit let alone up to any standard.  I'm an Antrim supporter all my life and feel so disheartened after watching that.  Hoped that the Tipperary influence would have brought about some change.  Some strange decisions today but none more so than subbing the sub.  Embarrassing

It is not a competition worth respecting, that being said if the county had not got a decent plan knowing their fixture schedule they should not have entered the competition.

If they only had a panel capable of playing one game a weekend then fair enough but plan and sort your schedule accordingly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 08, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 08, 2018, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: old timers on January 06, 2018, 03:30:19 PM
Anyone at the Antrim hurling match today. Think the Antrim management team had a howler today in the McGurk cup.  No respect given to the competition whatsoever IMO.  Players out there that shouldn't have been. So many not even match fit let alone up to any standard.  I'm an Antrim supporter all my life and feel so disheartened after watching that.  Hoped that the Tipperary influence would have brought about some change.  Some strange decisions today but none more so than subbing the sub.  Embarrassing

It is not a competition worth respecting, that being said if the county had not got a decent plan knowing their fixture schedule they should not have entered the competition.

If they only had a panel capable of playing one game a weekend then fair enough but plan and sort your schedule accordingly.


I think the Mcgurk family might beg to differ on it being a competition worth respecting but your entitled to your opinion. All I would say is that surely management (all 4 of them) and then Mr Sheedy should know before they start whether they have enough players. Whether their uni players can't then play for County, and how far the panel can be stretched taking into consideration injuries and those not available. Surely that's the basics of managing an U12 team let alone a "County" squad.  In my day it was known as "common sense" IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2018, 09:45:00 PM
So what's your beef old timer? I was at the Jordanstown game and they played a different team against Tyrone and saved players for the Dublin game.. they used subs as well!  As a manager and a player I'd have much preferred to play competitive games with a combination different squad players in different positions to see who can cut it..

I don't think playing the games they have will impact negatively for the up and coming league, do you?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2018, 08:30:17 AM
i would like to think its a positive that we can field two different team on two days in a row. The fact we can get near 40 lads out playing hurling in the first weekend in January is more of a positive than anything else. Add to that the U21 team that played against UU as well the previous week and its good to see a different mix of lads wanting to play for Antrim.

Yes its a hectic schedule but playing games is of more benefit that training indoors all the time.

The management have done a good job and are 4 very intelligent hurling men. If they wanted this schedule then they clearly knew they would be able to field in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 09, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 09, 2018, 08:30:17 AM
i would like to think its a positive that we can field two different team on two days in a row. The fact we can get near 40 lads out playing hurling in the first weekend in January is more of a positive than anything else. Add to that the U21 team that played against UU as well the previous week and its good to see a different mix of lads wanting to play for Antrim.

Yes its a hectic schedule but playing games is of more benefit that training indoors all the time.

The management have done a good job and are 4 very intelligent hurling men. If they wanted this schedule then they clearly knew they would be able to field in it.

Unfortunately DR a lot of those players last Saturday in the McGurk cup I don't think had trained anywhere for Antrim or anyone else and as said others were asked to come back just to play in the match so the numbers weren't there.  As for the "intelligent men". I hope for Antrim hurling that your right.  I still have bad memories of Croke Park and Carlow.  And almost getting beat by Armagh😪😢. Yes promotion was a massive achievement so here's hoping things are on the up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 09, 2018, 04:42:58 PM
aw im under no illusions that alot of the lads had barely trained but in truth they pulled Antrim out of a hole no doubt.

Ive seen a lot of bad bad days following Antrim esp in Croke Park so im wary of false dawns but im hopefully this management and players can give us some better days. It can only getting better!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2018, 07:22:35 PM
Was down at Dublin match
Hate to be negative because the lads tried very hard
Same old same old Imm afraid
Full back line real shaky and not attacking the ball
No method in how to create some space up front
And ball coming in to high and slow
Young Maskey did ok but very one sided
Rocky not a CHB
Lots of stuff you could single out but fair dues to the lads for their efforts
Sheedy was there so maybe he can address some things that could be fixed
Gonna be a long haul in 1B
Christy ring our level ATM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2018, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2018, 07:22:35 PM
Was down at Dublin match
Hate to be negative because the lads tried very hard
Same old same old Imm afraid
Full back line real shaky and not attacking the ball
No method in how to create some space up front
And ball coming in to high and slow
Young Maskey did ok but very one sided
Rocky not a CHB
Lots of stuff you could single out but fair dues to the lads for their efforts
Sheedy was there so maybe he can address some things that could be fixed
Gonna be a long haul in 1B
Christy ring our level ATM

A lot of stuff you have said I've seen day in day out at senior club level between competitive teams..

Given time and space against the weaker teams it looks good, low cross field passes, support play, picking out the runner, and creating goal opportunities! While in defence they get the hooks and blocks in while fielding high balls!

Now take that a notch with your best 25 who are going up against a seasoned Dublin team then that's were the mistakes happen, rushed passes, hurried shots, wrong options, missed hooks and blocks!

Our lads need to be playing at a higher level with every club game, every year, raise our club level and it will bring up our county level and better more options..

Running over old ground and I'm sure the lads know what they are on about but are dealing with the here and now.. the county need to address bigger issues with competitive hurling at a higher level from under 10 up! 

Unfortunately it's clubs like Dunloy Loughgiel and Cushendall who keep the standard high within the clubs, not good enough collectively.. the hardest game Cuala have had this past 2 years has been against other Dublin clubs!

Need to look at the bigger picture instead of making sure our own wee Empire is doing ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 09, 2018, 10:20:22 PM
Last sentence is bang on MR. GAA by its very nature is parochial but there comes a time when being the best in your own area isn't good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 09, 2018, 10:51:43 PM
TB and MR you r both correct although unfortunately it's not the only problem
antrim face but it is an age old one.  It is so frustrating when all we want is for Antrim to improve to a level that we can all take a bit of pride in as a County.  Is Sheedy the answer? I don't think he can give the time to make a real impact and the others are just plodding along IMO.  But you never know
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 15, 2018, 10:41:49 AM
Any one go to the game on sat night up at the Dub?

seemed like an entertaining game following it on twitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 15, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 15, 2018, 10:41:49 AM
Any one go to the game on sat night up at the Dub?

seemed like an entertaining game following it on twitter.

Didn't get myself but having been at all the other McGurk matches I couldn't understand some of the team selection.? From What was said on this forum the competition wasn't of any real interest/benefit to Antrim hence the drafting in of so many new and some older players.  That taken into account I couldn't understand what happened with young Ed McQuillan (I think his name) He had played the previous matches to get to the final and did well IMO but didn't even get a run out on Saturday nite.  According to reports.  ? ?  Anyone help with that.  Or where Big Carson was or young Murphy who both were scoring well in the competition?   Just wondering
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on January 19, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
anyone in the know have any idea when fixtures will be out for 2018?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on January 24, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
Any word of possible line ups for first league game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 24, 2018, 06:33:41 PM
Championship is drew this tuesday haven't heard anything about league yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on January 26, 2018, 03:47:37 AM
Bookmakers have use as minus 23 underdogs this weekend vs Galway surely we won't get a hammering like that. Galway only just back from a team holiday with not much match practice and will surely name a experimental side. I would be really disappointed if the lads came back home beat my 20 odd points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theticklemister on January 26, 2018, 07:23:45 AM
Lancashire play in randalstown this weekend in the nhl. Throw in is at 1pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 26, 2018, 01:22:14 PM
1 (GK) Chris O'Connell
2 David Kearney
3 John Dillon
4 Arron  Graffin
5 Joe Maskey
6 Matthew Donnelly
7 Paddy Burke
8 Conor McKinley Capt
9 Gerard Walsh
10 Maoi Connolly
11 Neil Mc Manus
12 Nigel Elliott
13 Donal Mc Kinley
14 Conor McCann
15 Conor Johnston
16 (GK) Ryan Elliott
17 James Connelly
18 Neal Mc Auley
19 James Mc Naughton
20 Deaglan Murphy
21 Conor Carson
22 Daniel McCloskey
23 Eoin O Neill
24 Ryan Mc Cambridge
25 Conor Boyd
26 Darragh Mc Guinness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on January 26, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
If we ship 5 goals, which i could definately see happening then thar 23 points could be a distant memory.

All depends 'which galway' shows up

Approach with caution.

Quote from: ciaran1988 on January 26, 2018, 03:47:37 AM
Bookmakers have use as minus 23 underdogs this weekend vs Galway surely we won't get a hammering like that. Galway only just back from a team holiday with not much match practice and will surely name a experimental side. I would be really disappointed if the lads came back home beat my 20 odd points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 28, 2018, 12:13:44 PM
Good luck hurlers. Some good players on the starting 15 and on the bench. Hopefully we can come away from the game with a bit of pride. What a way to start the league - away to the AI champs.
Where are the two Ciarans? Anybody know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
Clarke is injured? Dunno about the other one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
Holy shit we're leading at 31 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2018, 02:14:34 PM
And still leading with judt over 15 to go. Will struggle to hold on but fair play so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 02:18:47 PM
Yeah I even half thought of heading down only I was out and I'd have been well over the limit!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 28, 2018, 02:27:57 PM
Galway score 5 in a row to lead by 2.  Last 5 mins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 28, 2018, 02:28:55 PM
Galway up by a point with time nearly up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on January 28, 2018, 02:40:46 PM
FT Galway 1-19 Antrim 1-16.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 28, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
The boys can take a lot of pride from today's performance, fair play to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 02:47:12 PM
Fair fucks! The bookies had them down by 25 points in some ! To be leading for most of the match in Galway is some ask! Hopefully they can take that forward into the next few games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: longballin on January 28, 2018, 02:48:47 PM
Very encouraging. Hope it's a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on January 28, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
hurlers can take a lot of pride out of that preformance.  some passion and pride in the jersey on display,  that's all anyone can ask for.  best of luck for the year ahead men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 28, 2018, 03:18:44 PM
Well done to our hurlers
Was listening on radio and Galway didn't make an impact to they sprung all their big names
Great effort
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on January 28, 2018, 10:11:10 PM
Great performance from the lads. Can hold their heads up high and go into the Dublin game full of confidence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2018, 08:39:13 AM
impressed with that yesterday from the hurlers. showed serious guts going to Galway and putting it up to them for the whole match. Galway had that bit extra than us it seems but its nice to see us go and put on a great showing. its bodes well for the rest of the league if we can keep that up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 09:45:30 AM
Outstanding yesterday lads take a bow! I fully expect the win vs the dubs on Sunday. I fancy us big time now.

Lets not get carried away Dublin  will be just as hard
Galway had only 6 starting from the all Ireland team and haven't played any pre league matches.
Once they sprung Hanbury, Mannion and Mc Ilnernay they where a different animal.
Dublin will see the Offaly game as points lost and put out their strongest squad to get some points on the board
Still it was a great performance 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
No easy games in this league, and thats what you want, Dublin is a step up to what Antrinm have faced for a few years, but they will want to turn us over... As long as the lads put in the same effort as they did last yesterday i'd be happy with that, as it will bring our hurling a lot better...

Well done to the management team also for the prep leading into this league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 10:08:46 AM
Hound catch yourself on! Less of this inferiority complex please. Our lads nearly beat the all Ireland champions on their Home patch yesterday, if it hadn't be for a few bad refereeing decisions we would have won. But sure we don't get anything down there!

I think personally we will blow Dublin away, Offaly did and we are much better than them!

That's the spirit Groundie
No respect to any of those pesky southerners
Offaly are a brutal team under Kevin Martin, sure they couldn't even beat Kilkenny (lost by a point)
I was down at the Walsh cup game v Dublin and they beat us by 11 points and you think we are going to blow them away
I will take the same performance as yesterday and with a good crowd there we could get over the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
watched the dublin game sat night and they were poor enough. was impressed with Offaly as they looked sharper and more up for it. they will be hard to beat at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 29, 2018, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 11:31:56 AM
I have a really good feeling after Sunday, these dubs are in for the shock of their lives!

A true antWUM man  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 12:26:01 PM
Take your negativity elsewhere skull.

Let's not confuse negativity with reality there  buddy
Galway have been on the couch as they say in boxing
Still a great result
When's the last time we went to Salthill and nearly chinned them
Fantastic effort from our lads. Let's hope for a big turn out v Dublin
After Sunday they deserve some respect and support
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 29, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 12:26:01 PM
Take your negativity elsewhere skull.

Let's not confuse negativity with reality there  buddy
Galway have been on the couch as they say in boxing
Still a great result
When's the last time we went to Salthill and nearly chinned them
Fantastic effort from our lads. Let's hope for a big turn out v Dublin
After Sunday they deserve some respect and support

Where is the block button again?
Thought we were rid of wums on this thread.

Great to be back up and running for another year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 29, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
Away on with ye NAG1

I see your first post this morning is the first in nearly six years
Good to see you again
What has sparked this new found enthusiasm
Let's hope your on here all giddy next Monday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 29, 2018, 05:43:11 PM
I hear the match v Dublin is in corrigan now
Would have liked it in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 29, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
were making a call on Thursday with regards to us hosting the game is what i was told there now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 30, 2018, 12:13:06 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?

Hardly fit for intercounty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 30, 2018, 04:12:36 AM
I would love to see a County game held in Cushendun. Think it would be a fantastic venue to host one of the big southern teams. Nice tight pitch with a vocal home support and it  could be a huge advantage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 08:10:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?

Because it's not the best ground in the county and the county hurlers should play at the best ground in the county.

If we can create for ourselves any small advantage possible we should take it. Having Dublin travel another hour to north Antrim would be a small advantage.

Arguably the best hurling ground in the county is Loughiel, Dunloy or Cushendal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Larnegaa on January 30, 2018, 08:18:30 AM
County Champions should hold Home National League fixtures until Casement up and running.  Whenever that will be.  Does away with uncertainty of where games will be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 30, 2018, 08:38:55 AM
our pitch isnt up for games at the min. the snow lay on it for 4/5 days and theres not been many dry days since that. theres no doubt we have plenty of parking facilities and are able to run the game smoothly but sadly the pitch isn't up for it.

crazy that its Jan and we are inspecting our club pitches to see if it can host a match!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 08:10:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?

Because it's not the best ground in the county and the county hurlers should play at the best ground in the county.

If we can create for ourselves any small advantage possible we should take it. Having Dublin travel another hour to north Antrim would be a small advantage.

Arguably the best hurling ground in the county is Loughiel, Dunloy or Cushendal.

But sure its good enough for Foootball so surely its good enough for hurling. I agree with you by the way!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 30, 2018, 09:55:13 AM
Would have preferred to drag them on up the road for another hour
But if there are no pitches playable up here so be it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Whiterock Road.....The true home of Antrim hurling. Nice ring to it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 30, 2018, 05:28:26 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 30, 2018, 08:48:50 AM
Quote from: Íseal agus crua isteach a on January 30, 2018, 04:12:36 AM
I would love to see a County game held in Cushendun. Think it would be a fantastic venue to host one of the big southern teams. Nice tight pitch with a vocal home support and it  could be a huge advantage.

I always liked feystown glenarm. I think it could be a fortress for antrim, but sure what do I know!!

Cushendun has a fantastic setting one of the nicest GAA grounds in Ireland. It would be well able to hold the small crowd that follows Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on January 30, 2018, 06:26:54 PM
Cushendun lacks the banking needed for spectators. Somebody else will know better than me but I also reckon it'd be too soft for winter hurling.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 06:57:06 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 30, 2018, 05:47:26 PM
Emmett's ground probably thee most scenic in Antrim! Would be a nice gesture to get a game played there sometime.

It's also the windiest......if you thought Ballycastle was bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 08:10:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?

Because it's not the best ground in the county and the county hurlers should play at the best ground in the county.

If we can create for ourselves any small advantage possible we should take it. Having Dublin travel another hour to north Antrim would be a small advantage.

Arguably the best hurling ground in the county is Loughiel, Dunloy or Cushendal.

But sure its good enough for Foootball so surely its good enough for hurling. I agree with you by the way!

I think the county chairman knows no shame
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on January 30, 2018, 09:38:54 PM
Surely all we want is a venue that's suitable and a half decent game.  Dubs are no fools and after the weekend and the scare Galway had I would say they will try to ensure it's not tight.  My only hope is that "the management team" whether it's Sheedy or the other 4 make changes a bit quicker this week if we are still close enough to them. Personally I thought the players were out on their feet, having given their all, and fresh legs with 15 mins to go could have made a difference.  IMO Maol didn't do anything to warrant him being taken off and the young fella that came on didn't really get himself into the game.  Then with 5mins to go to make changes was no good to the team or the players coming on.  It's impossible to make a difference or to even try and get up to the speed of the game in 5/7 mins.  But I'm an old timer who maybe doesn't know a lot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 30, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 30, 2018, 08:10:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on January 29, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 06:09:57 PM
Official county twitter feed has tweeted that the game is in Corrigan.

Shocking

Why?

Because it's not the best ground in the county and the county hurlers should play at the best ground in the county.

If we can create for ourselves any small advantage possible we should take it. Having Dublin travel another hour to north Antrim would be a small advantage.

Arguably the best hurling ground in the county is Loughiel, Dunloy or Cushendal.

But sure its good enough for Foootball so surely its good enough for hurling. I agree with you by the way!

I think the county chairman knows no shame

I think that is an incredibly harsh statement. Do you really think these decisions are made by one person alone? If you do you're completely deranged.

Loughiel, Dunloy, Cushendal, Ballycastle, Lamh Dearg, All Saints all have more suitable grounds than Corrigan for hosting a hurling match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on January 31, 2018, 08:00:50 AM
What do you all make of the cship draw?any hope for sarsfields in with cushendall and dunloy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on January 31, 2018, 08:37:31 AM
Quote from: let it fly on January 31, 2018, 08:00:50 AM
What do you all make of the cship draw?any hope for sarsfields in with cushendall and dunloy?

Sarsfields are a great team to watch and intermediate champions but they'll be out of their depth at that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 31, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
£14 to watch a hurling match in probably the worst venue in the county? Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 31, 2018, 08:41:53 AM
its an odd format this year but it gives every club 2 games in the championship. The preliminary round draw being two legged is also interesting, i assume its going to be aggregate based on the score to see who goes through if both win one each?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 31, 2018, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 31, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
£14 to watch a hurling match in probably the worst venue in the county? Absolutely ridiculous.

You can get them for £11 online up to the day before the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 09:16:18 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 31, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
£14 to watch a hurling match in probably the worst venue in the county? Absolutely ridiculous.

Could be worse, could drive to Ballycastle or another North Antrim venue, pay 14 quid in plus fuel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 31, 2018, 09:20:25 AM
I've to drive to Belfast from Cushendall MR2!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 31, 2018, 10:51:58 AM
Buying online for £11 in advance is the best option but then there is a £2 charge for postage! I'm happy to print my own ticket but doesn't seem to be an option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on January 31, 2018, 09:20:25 AM
I've to drive to Belfast from Cushendall MR2!!

Sure think of the money you've saved from the county finals being in Ballycastle!! No Casement has improved your bank balance  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???

unplayable pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???

Because MR2 kicked up about going north with no traveling expenses
But he always has money for chips regardless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 11:56:58 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???

Because MR2 kicked up about going north with no traveling expenses
But he always has money for chips regardless

Only fair that we Westies get a chance to see the lads! Sure come down and stay for some shopping also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on January 31, 2018, 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 11:56:58 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???

Because MR2 kicked up about going north with no traveling expenses
But he always has money for chips regardless

Only fair that we Westies get a chance to see the lads! Sure come down and stay for some shopping also
Looking forward to sampling a supermacs😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2018, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: let it fly on January 31, 2018, 12:23:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 11:56:58 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2018, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 31, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Why was the match moved out of Dunloy ???

Because MR2 kicked up about going north with no traveling expenses
But he always has money for chips regardless

Only fair that we Westies get a chance to see the lads! Sure come down and stay for some shopping also
Looking forward to sampling a supermacs😂

Supermacs up there is a stinking! Better with a raffos or jane adams place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
Country men eating chips? ffs! whats the world coming to
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 31, 2018, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
Country men eating chips? ffs! whats the world coming to

You'll be saying that the city chippys are better than the culchie chippys next..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 31, 2018, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 31, 2018, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
Country men eating chips? ffs! whats the world coming to

You'll be saying that the city chippys are better than the culchie chippys next..

We don't train. We drink beer. We eat chips. South Antrim....home of honed athletes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 02, 2018, 04:44:52 PM
The Dublin team named is a lot stronger than the team that lined out against Offaly. Another battling display from our lads and make a right good game of it will do for me. Obviously any postitive result  for the saffrons will be a plus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
Should be a cracker!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on February 02, 2018, 06:25:38 PM
See on social media there today that sarsfields built new changing rooms and car park. Bear Pit for a few county games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2018, 11:02:13 AM
Would need a bigger car park than Ballycastle I'd say, and it's rammed on county club final day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 04, 2018, 02:52:27 PM
Hard to take, being 6 down after that 1st half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 04, 2018, 03:39:30 PM
Devastating
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Antrim can feel very hard done by. Loosing by three points to All Ireland champions and now loosing by a point to Dublin today. Loosing is a lot easier if you give it your best shot. You can't ask for more than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 04, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 04, 2018, 04:04:17 PM
Well done today antrim. You've put a lot of pride in the shirt the wins are coming !!

Away to Laois next - we've a very mixed bag of results v Laois in recent years. Could go either way. Hopefully the players can now go into the game with optimism. A win would be huge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
Antrim are competitive again! Great effort but disappointed we didn't get any points from that game!

Plenty to work on too, which is good, hopefully a win against Laois next time out

Corrigan was in great shape.. should get more games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Did anyone hear if that fella got his bus pass?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 04, 2018, 06:15:08 PM
That was a bit sick
Fought back from a 7 point deficit to a draw
Why did the ref play one and half minutes extra over the four
Let them get the free to win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Neil scored on the 39.04 minute! I was sure the ref was going to blow on the puck out!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 04, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Neil scored on the 39.04 minute! I was sure the ref was going to blow on the puck out!

Yeah
Refs normally think it's all level times up blow the whistle. Where he got the extra time I don't know.
Still we have them a big lead and to much to do
Mc manus was outstanding and plugged a lot of holes all over the pitch
Rocky and young Mc Naughton caught the eye
Thought the rest where poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 04, 2018, 07:02:11 PM
Gutting! Thought we had a draw in the bag. McManus superb.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 07:03:49 PM
One thing different about Antrim today and they must be commended on it. Was that despite going six points down, they never faded away which shows a wee bit of mental resolve that we don't normally expect to see with Antrim. There must be a good vibe in the changing room.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 07:06:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 04, 2018, 07:02:11 PM
Gutting! Thought we had a draw in the bag. McManus superb.

I was chatting to Donal O Grady (ex Cork hurler and manager) a while back and he couldn't praise Neil McManus enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2018, 07:25:47 PM
Good grit and determination in the second half but too reliant on McManus. I'm sure the Dubs were impressed by the county ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 04, 2018, 07:47:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 04, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Neil scored on the 39.04 minute! I was sure the ref was going to blow on the puck out!

Yeah
Refs normally think it's all level times up blow the whistle. Where he got the extra time I don't know.
Still we have them a big lead and to much to do
Mc manus was outstanding and plugged a lot of holes all over the pitch
Rocky and young Mc Naughton caught the eye
Thought the rest where poor

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that.  Without mcmanus they would have been hammered unfortunately that won't continue for many more seasons and  to be honest McKinley really shouldn't have been on as long as he was. Moving him out was just keeping him on the pitch.  Nigel was not on form either. Forwards got nothing out of that match. Was glad to see Big Carson getting a run out and he battled well and mcAuley but couldn't understand McCambridge (who I thought was a back? Maybe not) coming into the forwards??  Surely Maol or even young Murphy (who scored well during the McGurk matches) would have been a better option?  But we will take the positives  two games and two narrow defeats!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2018, 07:53:18 PM
Carson maybe isn't one of the best 15 in the county but against the big teams he is one of few we have who is physical enough to compete.

Mccambridge played 11 for cushendall a bit i think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 04, 2018, 09:02:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2018, 07:53:18 PM
Carson maybe isn't one of the best 15 in the county but against the big teams he is one of few we have who is physical enough to compete.

Mccambridge played 11 for cushendall a bit i think.

Completely agree about Carson and he gives you what he has.  But let's face it is the team the anywhere near the strongest 15 in the County ? for me I don't think so.  As a NA man I would say there are a lot of players especially up here who could be there but aren't for various reason. In my own day it was never really any different But we are where we are. As for Ryan coming on in front of two scoring forwards who were both on the panel last year it seems strange. But that's Antrim hurling for ya.   

On a separate note - There was a lot of Dall players on today - do they maybe fancy themselves for Championship?? Too early ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2018, 09:41:50 PM
I think it is closer to the best 15 than it has been in a while.

Very few teams bar the top ones get their best 15 due to commitment required these days across football or hurling. Get a commited panel and that is the best you can ask for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 10:49:29 PM
Any body think Saul McCaughan could add to the panel? I think he's a fine hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 04, 2018, 11:15:42 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 10:49:29 PM
Any body think Saul McCaughan could add to the panel? I think he's a fine hurler.


To be honest I think  there's a lot who could add to the panel but for whatever reason they don't want to or is it the case that they aren't asked.  Has Saul been asked?  Watched him a few times and thought he was decent.  "It's an open door" according to Management (Sambo) and we seen that last year when they brought people into the panel  at the end of last year and played a few in the final in Croke albeit Cunning only got a few minutes so you never know.  Given that they talked all last year about commitment and sticking with the ones that had worked hard all year.......  but that was then. You never know who they might bring back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 05, 2018, 08:04:16 AM
Strange game and how we nearly managed to get a draw ill never know, i thought in the first half we where awful bar Neil. Forwards where totally non-existent and only for fouls we would have been out of sight. Start of the second half wasn't much better.

Was good to see they didn't give up though and fought till the end, Overall the backs done rightly bar a couple imo, midfiled was poor, young McNaughton made a difference when he came on. Up front was the usual antrim, our forwards scored 4 points from play and Neill scored 3 of them.

Great not getting hammered in these games but its important not to get carried away, the Laois game will tell us more of where we are at and i hope the confidence gained from these two games will help us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2018, 09:04:43 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 04, 2018, 10:49:29 PM
Any body think Saul McCaughan could add to the panel? I think he's a fine hurler.

No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 05, 2018, 10:13:32 AM
Desperately unlucky yesterday, but for a number of errors which swung the tide against us and left us chasing it, we certainly had enough to take the 2 points. McManus the best player on the park imo is no doubt carrying us, Dillon again excellent at FB.  Hopefully young lads take the approach that I am here to learn and use their time well, they can certainly improve to the level required to stay at this level.
Young players need to understand if they are considered able for Senior county, most of the big performance gains have been established at club and they now need to work on the finer points of their game. Too often these days they think the answer is getting bulked up but many of the errors we see in club games were evident at times yesterday. Things like reading the game, better decision making, positioning for breaking ball opportunities, tackling technique, recovery from setbacks etc. All the same there's plenty to be positive about.
Wouldn't give a 2nd thought to the so called absentees, this group can do just fine if they continue to apply themselves. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 10:34:52 AM
Very frustrating not to get the draw at the end and I really think the ref should have have shown a bit of common sense and blown after Neill's free. So important to stay playing at this level, and ultimately it probably will come down to games against Offaly and Laois. If we do end up in bottom 2 it means a playoff which will be a huge game.

Beating Laois next week is a hard ask away from home and they did well on Saturday v Galway too.

If we end up us v Laois in a playoff, anyone know if we would be at home given the regular league game against them is away?

Thats also the first time in ages that an Antrim game had to be delayed to allow the crowd to get in - I was glad I had bought my ticket in advance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 05, 2018, 01:19:30 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 10:34:52 AM
Very frustrating not to get the draw at the end and I really think the ref should have have shown a bit of common sense and blown after Neill's free. So important to stay playing at this level, and ultimately it probably will come down to games against Offaly and Laois. If we do end up in bottom 2 it means a playoff which will be a huge game.

Beating Laois next week is a hard ask away from home and they did well on Saturday v Galway too.

If we end up us v Laois in a playoff, anyone know if we would be at home given the regular league game against them is away?

Thats also the first time in ages that an Antrim game had to be delayed to allow the crowd to get in - I was glad I had bought my ticket in advance!
The weather definitely helped. We tried to buy tickets the day before but it seems the GAA ticket site only sold them until midnight on Friday. Antrim had a poor end to the first half and a storming end to the second so overall I think a draw would have been the fair result and the ref should have blown it up. It would have felt like a win for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on February 05, 2018, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 10:34:52 AM
Very frustrating not to get the draw at the end and I really think the ref should have have shown a bit of common sense and blown after Neill's free. So important to stay playing at this level, and ultimately it probably will come down to games against Offaly and Laois. If we do end up in bottom 2 it means a playoff which will be a huge game.

Beating Laois next week is a hard ask away from home and they did well on Saturday v Galway too.

If we end up us v Laois in a playoff, anyone know if we would be at home given the regular league game against them is away?

Thats also the first time in ages that an Antrim game had to be delayed to allow the crowd to get in - I was glad I had bought my ticket in advance!

If it's the same regulations as last year – a big if – Antrim would be at home because they had two matches at home during the League while Laois had three
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 05, 2018, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 05, 2018, 08:04:16 AM
Strange game and how we nearly managed to get a draw ill never know, i thought in the first half we where awful bar Neil. Forwards where totally non-existent and only for fouls we would have been out of sight. Start of the second half wasn't much better.

Was good to see they didn't give up though and fought till the end, Overall the backs done rightly bar a couple imo, midfiled was poor, young McNaughton made a difference when he came on. Up front was the usual antrim, our forwards scored 4 points from play and Neill scored 3 of them.

Great not getting hammered in these games but its important not to get carried away, the Laois game will tell us more of where we are at and i hope the confidence gained from these two games will help us.

Horse was not in the match and stayed on?? Could have been easily taken off or maybe not-McCambridge gave the foul for the Dublin point to win. Does that come from not being a forward regardless of where he played for the Dall.  Hurling is about scoring and if there's is only one doing it then the others shouldn't be fitted in somewhere else on the pitch IMO.  One person can't carry a team. Thought Sheedy would have had a bigger input but obviously not. Nepotism did spring to mind yesterday but that's just my view.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 05, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
. We tried to buy tickets the day before but it seems the GAA ticket site only sold them until midnight on Friday.

The cheaper pre match tickets were available in O'Neills up to COB on Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 05, 2018, 06:26:38 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 05, 2018, 01:59:28 PM
Quote from: Megaman on February 05, 2018, 08:04:16 AM
Strange game and how we nearly managed to get a draw ill never know, i thought in the first half we where awful bar Neil. Forwards where totally non-existent and only for fouls we would have been out of sight. Start of the second half wasn't much better.

Was good to see they didn't give up though and fought till the end, Overall the backs done rightly bar a couple imo, midfiled was poor, young McNaughton made a difference when he came on. Up front was the usual antrim, our forwards scored 4 points from play and Neill scored 3 of them.

Great not getting hammered in these games but its important not to get carried away, the Laois game will tell us more of where we are at and i hope the confidence gained from these two games will help us.

Horse was not in the match and stayed on?? Could have been easily taken off or maybe not-McCambridge gave the foul for the Dublin point to win. Does that come from not being a forward regardless of where he played for the Dall.  Hurling is about scoring and if there's is only one doing it then the others shouldn't be fitted in somewhere else on the pitch IMO.  One person can't carry a team. Thought Sheedy would have had a bigger input but obviously not. Nepotism did spring to mind yesterday but that's just my view.
Square pegs in round holes as far as the midfield went, think it was Burke who conceded the free at the end but it would be harsh to be over critical of him for it. McCambridge being introduced to the forwards was a strange one all right. Would have liked to see him in the defence after Maskey went off. Few of us have any insight into the dynamics at training so we can only speculate but it's hard to see nepotism being a factor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 09:09:44 AM
We are basically lacking classy forwards of the right age profile.

We have loads of decent backs but we have no fire, we dont really even have someone to hold the ball up for, never mind create something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 06, 2018, 10:22:14 AM
Ciaran Clarke would go a long way towards that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on February 06, 2018, 10:31:51 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 06, 2018, 10:22:14 AM
Ciaran Clarke would go a long way towards that

Cracking player, where is he anyway. 

we have plenty of classy forwards, unfortunately they are a bit small and light, which i think is why Ryan was put on in forwards,  to help win some ball, it most certainly was not nepotism as he would be ahead of a couple of defenders that start IMHO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 06, 2018, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: Megaman on February 06, 2018, 10:31:51 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 06, 2018, 10:22:14 AM
Ciaran Clarke would go a long way towards that

Cracking player, where is he anyway. 

we have plenty of classy forwards, unfortunately they are a bit small and light, which i think is why Ryan was put on in forwards,  to help win some ball, it most certainly was not nepotism as he would be ahead of a couple of defenders that start IMHO
Clarke is injured but on the panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 06, 2018, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 09:09:44 AM
We are basically lacking classy forwards of the right age profile.

We have loads of decent backs but we have no fire, we dont really even have someone to hold the ball up for, never mind create something.

Dont know that I would agree totally with that although what was on show on Sunday would make you think that.   Murphy and Maol both on the bench and McCambridge goes on as a forward ??  I thought Carson held the ball up well enough in forwards on Sunday  not a lot of pace but a physical presence to knock the ball down.   I watched Murphy last year against Armagh who between him and McNaughton came on and won the match and then I watched him down here in Cushendall where he proved to be a half decent free taker.  In McGurk cup matches he was scoring- granted a different  type of opponent and hes Maybe not the biggest but has speed and an eye for a ball, from what I remember??   As for Maol he is a good hurler and I didnt think he did a lot wrong last week in Galway and could have easily came on against Dublin.  IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 06, 2018, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 06, 2018, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 09:09:44 AM
We are basically lacking classy forwards of the right age profile.

We have loads of decent backs but we have no fire, we dont really even have someone to hold the ball up for, never mind create something.

Dont know that I would agree totally with that although what was on show on Sunday would make you think that.   Murphy and Maol both on the bench and McCambridge goes on as a forward ??  I thought Carson held the ball up well enough in forwards on Sunday  not a lot of pace but a physical presence to knock the ball down.   I watched Murphy last year against Armagh who between him and McNaughton came on and won the match and then I watched him down here in Cushendall where he proved to be a half decent free taker.  In McGurk cup matches he was scoring- granted a different  type of opponent and hes Maybe not the biggest but has speed and an eye for a ball, from what I remember??   As for Maol he is a good hurler and I didnt think he did a lot wrong last week in Galway and could have easily came on against Dublin.  IMO

Agree on murphy, he seems very effective when some space appears in the last ten
Mc Cambridge had an influence on making the ball stick up front so I could see their logic.
Thought Carson was poor enough, struggles in the air and first touch was bad
TBH we have very little ball winners and midfield was poor to Mc Naughton came on
We were lucky that Sutcliffe, Ryan,Keaney  and Rushe had no matches prior to the game
Mc Manus did an serious amount of fire fighting in our weak positions
Why are we so bad in the air as well

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 06, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games
Forgetting the size aspect its also kind of pointless when its a 4 on 2 or 3 on 1 in the ffwd line, more work needed on how we create more realistic scoring chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games

I would agree but that would make me think that we should be looking at tactics which suit our players. Not trying to play to a game plan which doesnt suit the players we have.

We have a good few mobile players, so a running game style ala cork of old or Clare even more recently in theory should suit us better.

I understand there is difference between theory and application but, what is the definition of madness again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 06, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games

I would agree but that would make me think that we should be looking at tactics which suit our players. Not trying to play to a game plan which doesnt suit the players we have.

We have a good few mobile players, so a running game style ala cork of old or Clare even more recently in theory should suit us better.

I understand there is difference between theory and application but, what is the definition of madness again?

Would agreee with both of you.  Play to your strengths whatever they maybe.   Height was never an issue for Joe Dean when he played County for years and excelled as a corner forward.  But then that would be the logical thing to do and there doesn't seem to be a lot of that about. Time will tell

Think there ended up being maybe 7 Dall players on the field at the end of the match ?? Rightly or wrongly.   it's certainly not Sheedy at the helm- IMO -

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 07:47:01 PM
Well your last paragraph sums your real thoughts up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 06, 2018, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 06, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games

I would agree but that would make me think that we should be looking at tactics which suit our players. Not trying to play to a game plan which doesnt suit the players we have.

We have a good few mobile players, so a running game style ala cork of old or Clare even more recently in theory should suit us better.

I understand there is difference between theory and application but, what is the definition of madness again?

Would agreee with both of you.  Play to your strengths whatever they maybe.   Height was never an issue for Joe Dean when he played County for years and excelled as a corner forward.  But then that would be the logical thing to do and there doesn't seem to be a lot of that about. Time will tell

Think there ended up being maybe 7 Dall players on the field at the end of the match ?? Rightly or wrongly.   it's certainly not Sheedy at the helm- IMO -

Sheedy was never meant to be at the helm as far as I know. I'm sure Woody, Pappy & Peaden won't be walked over by Sambo. If there is 7 Dall players making themselves available and training for the county then it's the managerments call who they use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2018, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 06, 2018, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 06, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 02:34:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
Why was there a small amount of Loughgiel men on that team?

Who would you have on MR2 and where would you put them?

Young McNaughton is a talent no doubt, my point was that there isnt that group with the right talent at the right age for county hurling.

Well the management are putting McCambridge on ahead of the other two lads mentioned that maybe tells you about their opinions on them and they see them day in day out.

I'm not sure to be honest, but they haven't fallen away that much to have so few players that would be able to show their skills at county level? 

You are right NAG if the management see things the way they want then that's their prerogative. I just asked the questions as to why so little from that team..

I was with a Dall man and his son on Sunday and I thought i only picked out 3 or 4 players from Cushendall at the start, obviously more came on, injuries to players and tactically changing the game, which we nearly drew..

We have been a relatively small team for years, and that's been a downfall in my book when you look around the other teams, certainly Dublin and Galway would be the biggest physically about, that's why is hard to field balls and take the hits, which will reduced the strength of the smaller lads..
That's not taking anything away from the players, like myself that is vertically challenged lol. They have the finer parts of their game that they work on that a larger player will struggle with. But pumping aimless balls into a small corner forward is not going to win games

I would agree but that would make me think that we should be looking at tactics which suit our players. Not trying to play to a game plan which doesnt suit the players we have.

We have a good few mobile players, so a running game style ala cork of old or Clare even more recently in theory should suit us better.

I understand there is difference between theory and application but, what is the definition of madness again?

Would agreee with both of you.  Play to your strengths whatever they maybe.   Height was never an issue for Joe Dean when he played County for years and excelled as a corner forward.  But then that would be the logical thing to do and there doesn't seem to be a lot of that about. Time will tell

Think there ended up being maybe 7 Dall players on the field at the end of the match ?? Rightly or wrongly.   it's certainly not Sheedy at the helm- IMO -

Sheedy was never meant to be at the helm as far as I know. I'm sure Woody, Pappy & Peaden won't be walked over by Sambo. If there is 7 Dall players making themselves available and training for the county then it's the managerments call who they use.

Well when ypu take that there relatively few players from the current county champions, the next team probably would be Cushendall so I dont see anything wrong with the numbers there either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 07, 2018, 09:28:49 AM
Most will agree that Cushendall have the strongest batch of senior hurlers at the minute. No surprise they've got the largest representation at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 07, 2018, 09:28:49 AM
Most will agree that Cushendall have the strongest batch of senior hurlers at the minute. No surprise they've got the largest representation at the minute.

Mind games already  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 07, 2018, 09:51:07 AM
clear favourites for the championship MR2 lol

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 07, 2018, 10:05:52 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/124/028/5c2.jpg)

In fairness, I should've known.  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2018, 11:01:19 AM
Agree, can't see past cushendall this year  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on February 07, 2018, 02:23:37 PM
The players that are on the panel are there as they want to be there and are committed. I know Conal Cunning and Keelan Molloy were asked on board and couldn't commit and with Shorty retiring as well, that is 3 players the senior management would definitely have on the panel in my opinion. I have been told by a panelist, that Cushendall have 7 on the panel and Dunloy have 6. So not a big difference on numbers.

As for the Championship this year, Dunloy are clear favourites and that's coming from a dall man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 07, 2018, 10:05:52 AM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/124/028/5c2.jpg)

In fairness, I should've known.  ::)

See what you have started! Barely Feb and the "we're not favs, they defo are" are out in force!

BTW Carey fav for Interm!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 07, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on February 07, 2018, 02:23:37 PM
The players that are on the panel are there as they want to be there and are committed. I know Conal Cunning and Keelan Molloy were asked on board and couldn't commit and with Shorty retiring as well, that is 3 players the senior management would definitely have on the panel in my opinion. I have been told by a panelist, that Cushendall have 7 on the panel and Dunloy have 6. So not a big difference on numbers.

As for the Championship this year, Dunloy are clear favourites and that's coming from a dall man.

naw its hard to see past Loughgiel this year  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
The Johnnies are the men this year, double senior championship winners.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2018, 09:39:27 AM
take that lack of positivity elsewhere groundlie  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 08, 2018, 08:30:07 AM
Paddyjohn ya ballbag 😂

Time for all the work being done in the city with hurling to shine.

A new year a new me...  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 08, 2018, 04:10:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 08, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 08, 2018, 08:30:07 AM
Paddyjohn ya ballbag 😂

Time for all the work being done in the city with hurling to shine.

A new year a new me...  ;)

I would love to see Belfast hurling bouncing back hopefully your right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2018, 07:50:37 PM
Stop it lads!  If we end up winning everything again this year there'll be murder!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Mr more chance of man united winning the premier league in april than a belfast club winning the senior hurling and not much chance of that!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2018, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Mr more chance of man united winning the premier league in april than a belfast club winning the senior hurling and not much chance of that!!

I like those odds  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2018, 09:35:51 PM
Johnny's more than capable. They where 2 points up on us at half time and ran the dall close the year prior.
They certainly are not as far away as Utd is off Man City🤪
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2018, 10:48:46 PM
Welcome back Baile an tuaigh. Thats some break you took from the board. Prison?  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on February 12, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Did anyone hear if that fella got his bus pass?

You'll be glad to know that the bus pass and it's owner have been reunited, 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: jdyok on February 12, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Did anyone hear if that fella got his bus pass?

You'll be glad to know that the bus pass and it's owner have been reunited, 😂
I haven't slept for a week worrying about it! It got some laugh when it came over the tannoy, although better than some of the music they were playing.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: jdyok on February 12, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Did anyone hear if that fella got his bus pass?

You'll be glad to know that the bus pass and it's owner have been reunited, 😂
I haven't slept for a week worrying about it! It got some laugh when it came over the tannoy, although better than some of the music they were playing.  :-\

Those things are priceless!! He'd been stuck without it, in the pub!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
Probably wrong thread, but slightly ironic to see Slaughtneil complaining about cynicism today in the papers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on February 13, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
They have a point if you had off seen some of the rugby tackles in the game on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers in particular was hard done by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 13, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
They have a point if you had off seen some of the rugby tackles in the game on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers in particular was hard done by.

Pulling someone down is cynical. But if my team mate allowed a player through on goal and didnt try and take him out i'd be raging!

S'niel lost that match on a few points, they changed from the game plan they had in the first half and didnt adopt to the sending off's... but for me the main reason for losing the game was the first 5/6 minutes at the start of teh second half where they were over run, momentum won through for NP and very hard to stop it regardless of sending off's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 13, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
They have a point if you had off seen some of the rugby tackles in the game on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers in particular was hard done by.

Pulling someone down is cynical. But if my team mate allowed a player through on goal and didnt try and take him out i'd be raging!

S'niel lost that match on a few points, they changed from the game plan they had in the first half and didnt adopt to the sending off's... but for me the main reason for losing the game was the first 5/6 minutes at the start of teh second half where they were over run, momentum won through for NP and very hard to stop it regardless of sending off's

Hard to argue with that, my point would be roughly the same. The NP lad was straight armed for their penalty (which they missed) but the principle was the same. Also would be interested to see a replay of the second sending off, with the SN player involved I would highly doubt that it was a one sided action.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 01:06:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 13, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
They have a point if you had off seen some of the rugby tackles in the game on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers in particular was hard done by.

Pulling someone down is cynical. But if my team mate allowed a player through on goal and didnt try and take him out i'd be raging!

S'niel lost that match on a few points, they changed from the game plan they had in the first half and didnt adopt to the sending off's... but for me the main reason for losing the game was the first 5/6 minutes at the start of teh second half where they were over run, momentum won through for NP and very hard to stop it regardless of sending off's

Hard to argue with that, my point would be roughly the same. The NP lad was straight armed for their penalty (which they missed) but the principle was the same. Also would be interested to see a replay of the second sending off, with the SN player involved I would highly doubt that it was a one sided action.

S'neil worked it, nothing wrong with that, they may have made the first action but when you are caught, tough shit! never buy the bait, now those two lads will miss out on the biggest days of their lives as they got sucked in... Cuala actually struggled for long periods on Sat against the Galway lads. but that a few weeks for both teams to get ready for a good match up, I think this will be a lot closer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 01:06:54 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 13, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
They have a point if you had off seen some of the rugby tackles in the game on Saturday. Brendan Rodgers in particular was hard done by.

Pulling someone down is cynical. But if my team mate allowed a player through on goal and didnt try and take him out i'd be raging!

S'niel lost that match on a few points, they changed from the game plan they had in the first half and didnt adopt to the sending off's... but for me the main reason for losing the game was the first 5/6 minutes at the start of teh second half where they were over run, momentum won through for NP and very hard to stop it regardless of sending off's

Hard to argue with that, my point would be roughly the same. The NP lad was straight armed for their penalty (which they missed) but the principle was the same. Also would be interested to see a replay of the second sending off, with the SN player involved I would highly doubt that it was a one sided action.

S'neil worked it, nothing wrong with that, they may have made the first action but when you are caught, tough shit! never buy the bait, now those two lads will miss out on the biggest days of their lives as they got sucked in... Cuala actually struggled for long periods on Sat against the Galway lads. but that a few weeks for both teams to get ready for a good match up, I think this will be a lot closer

Oh yeah the NP lads definitely bought it, but dont then come on complain about cynicism in the game  ;)

I think Cuala will be too much for NP anyway, too much pace all over. Any one playing Cuala are going to need goals which in fairness NP can create, just dont think they will have enough chances.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2018, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
Probably wrong thread, but slightly ironic to see Slaughtneil complaining about cynicism today in the papers.
No team playing under Mickey McShane will be without a few tricks and some days they work and others they don't. I think a bit more introspection is required than blaming the other team i.e. how did they lose a match with a 10 point swing in a half in which the opposition had 13 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 13, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2018, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
Probably wrong thread, but slightly ironic to see Slaughtneil complaining about cynicism today in the papers.
No team playing under Mickey McShane will be without a few tricks and some days they work and others they don't. I think a bit more introspection is required than blaming the other team i.e. how did they lose a match with a 10 point swing in a half in which the opposition had 13 men.

A clubmate was down at the game and Mickey got it hot and heavy from the Baluba faithful.

Allegedly he went ahead and played a friendly the week before against the wishes of the club executive and it was in that game that the corner forward, Shay McGuigan (IIRC) got injured. Obviously third hand information and not easy to corroborate.
Don't get the logic of playing a friendly the week before a big game as no one will be going full tilt and hence little to learn at that stage.
NP were happy enough to let SN puck short as invariably it ended up in the same area.

I didn't see the sendings off, I don't think anyone did other than the linesman and straight reds would suggest it was an overstepping of the mark in a big way for a schemozzle, one lad used the boot i think.

But McKaigue can f**k right off with his black card shite as he and his mates were hanging off big magic like a new bucket in Armagh and no cards of any colour were offered out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 13, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
S/N got what they deserved. They have mouths like sewers when on the pitch and deploy the dark arts and legal hard hits to balance out their deficiencies on the skill front.
Watched the game on Saturday NP where asleep so why after a H/T lead make the other team,officials and fans wait ten minutes and then proceed to get players sent off. I thought somebody was sniping at them from the stand roof. I think the tactics woke N/P up and they blew them away.
Mc Keauge whinging about one penalty when their free taker was having a nightmare and completely wasting their spare men is a joke.  S/N are great athletes and their work rate at closing men down will work against a LG or Dunloy but N/P are big men that can hurl so they had to hurl a bit as well and didn't or maybe can't.
They are certainly not designed for Croke Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 13, 2018, 03:05:16 PM
he likes the bend the refs ear thats for sure.

Also noted that they didnt get frees as easy. ive seen them play a few times and they like to try and buy a free, it must be the football thing coming through, but the ref wasnt having any of it.

theres no doubt Sneill have a good side but they are a bit short in terms of being good enough to win an all ireland. Cula look to be a classy side and can score from anywhere at all on the pitch. NP def didnt play as well as i expected they could but they look a lot heavier than 2 years ago when they won the All Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2018, 06:32:31 PM
They have quite a few men carrying a bit of weight.

When they played cushendall they were all in great shape. I almost wonder was there any complacency in there and will you see a different team in the final.

I would be surprised if they beat cuala. O'callaghan is at present unmarkable so they have a lot to work out there and even then they have a few other score takers. They would need dowling, who's goal showed his quality, to be back fit.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 08:26:22 PM
Look S'neil best the best of Antrim down and Derry for the past few seasons, and handy at that too! And they would be favs again this year!

Cuala were comfortable but couldn't stretch away until late on, laboured a bit big the weather was piss poor!

We'll be a great final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on February 16, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
Antrim folks, is the chap's name Maol Connolly (with an 'L', as I suspect it is) or Maoi (with an 'i' as the county board's team list keeps spelling his name)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 17, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 08, 2018, 10:48:46 PM
Welcome back Baile an tuaigh. Thats some break you took from the board. Prison?  :)

On the run skull, Antrim trail by 5 in Laois 20 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 17, 2018, 08:32:17 PM
Laois 0-27 Antrim 2-16 FT
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 17, 2018, 10:29:58 PM
Moore Park was extremely cold tonight and result was very disappointing. Hopefully next week on home turf for the cushendall team sorry I meant the Antrim team might bring about different fortunes 😜 here's hoping.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnneycool on February 19, 2018, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 19, 2018, 01:44:43 PM
another good performance at the weekend. who said we couldnt hold our own! roll on limerick at the weekend. looking forward to seeing the guys go toe to toe.

Laois get 15 points from frees out of a total tally of 27 points. Is that not something for the management to look at?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/king-scoring-masterclass-sees-laois-past-antrim-36617457.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/king-scoring-masterclass-sees-laois-past-antrim-36617457.html)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Was at the match, they actually got 7 from play(we scored more from play) the rest were 65s and beautiful sideline cut from Kavanagh. Ref blew his whistle constantly and the game had no flow. Their free taker never missed. We put in a poor effort and didn't deserve to win truth be told. Still they got some soft frees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on February 19, 2018, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Was at the match, they actually got 7 from play(we scored more from play) the rest were 65s and beautiful sideline cut from Kavanagh. Ref blew his whistle constantly and the game had no flow. Their free taker never missed. We put in a poor effort and didn't deserve to win truth be told. Still they got some soft frees.

Was at game too and agree with all of the above. If we are going to play a sweeper, we have to be able to take scores from distance and we missed a number of long range shots in the second half of the first half. Needed a good start to the second half and didn't get one. Ref gave a lot of soft frees but we don't seem to be able to adapt to "play" the referee.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 20, 2018, 09:27:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Was at the match, they actually got 7 from play(we scored more from play) the rest were 65s and beautiful sideline cut from Kavanagh. Ref blew his whistle constantly and the game had no flow. Their free taker never missed. We put in a poor effort and didn't deserve to win truth be told. Still they got some soft frees.

Going south and not getting referring decisions is nothing new and that happens at all levels.  We all know that but that aside you are right in saying we were poor and didn't deserve the win.  it was hard to watch and disappointing after such effort put in previously.  I have said before but I hoped Sheedy's influence would have been greater regarding players and their fitness levels and strengths and weaknesses generally- an outsiders perspective - not just the "managements" usual style  because lets face it in my opinion there were a few out there that are definitely not fit and continue to be given game time and fitted into any position.  Having a bad day on the pitch happens to everyone but for me there is no excuse for being overweight and unfit at this level.  I have asked some of our lads on the panel and they say the boxes are being ticked with regards fitness testing and improving these stats so where is it going wrong?.  After the first two matches there was a sense of definite improvement so was Saturday night just a glitch.? 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 20, 2018, 10:03:07 AM
Quote from: old timers on February 20, 2018, 09:27:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 19, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Was at the match, they actually got 7 from play(we scored more from play) the rest were 65s and beautiful sideline cut from Kavanagh. Ref blew his whistle constantly and the game had no flow. Their free taker never missed. We put in a poor effort and didn't deserve to win truth be told. Still they got some soft frees.

Going south and not getting referring decisions is nothing new and that happens at all levels.  We all know that but that aside you are right in saying we were poor and didn't deserve the win.  it was hard to watch and disappointing after such effort put in previously.  I have said before but I hoped Sheedy's influence would have been greater regarding players and their fitness levels and strengths and weaknesses generally- an outsiders perspective - not just the "managements" usual style  because lets face it in my opinion there were a few out there that are definitely not fit and continue to be given game time and fitted into any position.  Having a bad day on the pitch happens to everyone but for me there is no excuse for being overweight and unfit at this level.  I have asked some of our lads on the panel and they say the boxes are being ticked with regards fitness testing and improving these stats so where is it going wrong?.  After the first two matches there was a sense of definite improvement so was Saturday night just a glitch.?

I think that was the problem, the first two matchs.

Galway back from a holiday no training done hardly, Dublin as poor as they have been in a number of years minus the Cuala contingent.

Bit of false hope, Laois was always going to the acid test and it shows that we are exactly where we have been for the last couple of years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 10:28:08 AM
Laois have been playing at a level above Antrim for the past few seasons, we have not won the Christy Ring and have not competed in the senior Championship for a while. Our best Antrim clubs teams have been turned over by the Derry champions 2 years in a row and now after 3 competitive games were we have scored well and competed to the end..

Where do you expect to be lads? FFS honestly we wont be pulling up trees in one season, the fitness levels are a hell of a lot better than they have been in the past as we would have folded to teams after 60 minutes and the last ten minutes become shooting practice..

We knew before the league started that we would have to compete in the playoff game, nothing has changed and I'm sure we are gearing up to that with a view of winning that one off game, that's the target first and with a good showing in the championship..

Some expectations on here are, lets say, a bit high? so now its about rolling up the sleeves and continuing to improve and hopefully get that break, as for the bigger players, I watched a few games at the weekend and there was a lot more heavier players at intercounty level for the better counties than what we have on show.

I'm more encouraged this year than ones lately, whether Sheedy is an influence or not we are still playing better hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 20, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
Not too sure what games you were watching MR2 to have seen a lot more heavier players than some on Saturday nite.    You must have been watching a few divisions below but you are right about the expectations. Although Im really not sure why because its the same "Management" and "style" as previous years.   We said at the end of last year after an embarrassing display in Croke that things needed to change -  has it ??  going on Saturday nights overall performance the answer has to be No.  NAG is right " it shows that we are exactly where we have been for the last couple of years" .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 20, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
John Kiely Limerick manager has confirmed they will be without their Na Piarsaigh and Fitzgibbon players at the weekend in Cushendall - could a win be on the cards for Antrim ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 20, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
Not too sure what games you were watching MR2 to have seen a lot more heavier players than some on Saturday nite.    You must have been watching a few divisions below but you are right about the expectations. Although Im really not sure why because its the same "Management" and "style" as previous years.   We said at the end of last year after an embarrassing display in Croke that things needed to change -  has it ??  going on Saturday nights overall performance the answer has to be No.  NAG is right " it shows that we are exactly where we have been for the last couple of years" .

Go on to the hurling thread of the board Old Timer and check what other hurling supporters have been discussing about this weekend games, its about the size of some of the players, not Aantrim but other counties..

We havent played these teams at this level for a while but your continuing with the management bashing.. your views on making Antrim better are?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
Limerick have given us some handy beatings over the years, even when i thought we'd have a decent chance at those times they have managed to come up and give us a hidding... Again I'd be happy with a competitive game, take the win but take a better performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 20, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 20, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
Not too sure what games you were watching MR2 to have seen a lot more heavier players than some on Saturday nite.    You must have been watching a few divisions below but you are right about the expectations. Although Im really not sure why because its the same "Management" and "style" as previous years.   We said at the end of last year after an embarrassing display in Croke that things needed to change -  has it ??  going on Saturday nights overall performance the answer has to be No.  NAG is right " it shows that we are exactly where we have been for the last couple of years" .

Go on to the hurling thread of the board Old Timer and check what other hurling supporters have been discussing about this weekend games, its about the size of some of the players, not Aantrim but other counties..

We havent played these teams at this level for a while but your continuing with the management bashing.. your views on making Antrim better are?

Ah well then sure it's all ok  then cause it happens in other counties.  The only county that I'm concerned with is Antrim. And unfortunately my "management bashing" most certainly is not that -  it is the lack of progress made that speaks for itself. gaining promotion last year was great but to go straight back down again would mean we are no better off. IMO.  As for making Antrim better well if it's not working then we need "change " of some description.  Iv been there. Done my bit and gave my thoughts and concerns many times And unfortunately for Antrim good performances don't bring about points. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 20, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
Sounds like we need a Russian billionaire to buy us a load of players from foreign counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 20, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
Look lads a blind man can see that some very obvious progress is being made.  The performances are up a definite notch or two or two on previous years....so credit to all concerned. Hopefully it can continue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on February 20, 2018, 10:47:31 PM
Go raibh maith agat!
Quote from: hardstation on February 16, 2018, 05:41:27 PM
Maol as in bald.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 20, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: old timers on February 20, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
Not too sure what games you were watching MR2 to have seen a lot more heavier players than some on Saturday nite.    You must have been watching a few divisions below but you are right about the expectations. Although Im really not sure why because its the same "Management" and "style" as previous years.   We said at the end of last year after an embarrassing display in Croke that things needed to change -  has it ??  going on Saturday nights overall performance the answer has to be No.  NAG is right " it shows that we are exactly where we have been for the last couple of years" .

Go on to the hurling thread of the board Old Timer and check what other hurling supporters have been discussing about this weekend games, its about the size of some of the players, not Aantrim but other counties..

We havent played these teams at this level for a while but your continuing with the management bashing.. your views on making Antrim better are?

Ah well then sure it's all ok  then cause it happens in other counties.  The only county that I'm concerned with is Antrim. And unfortunately my "management bashing" most certainly is not that -  it is the lack of progress made that speaks for itself. gaining promotion last year was great but to go straight back down again would mean we are no better off. IMO.  As for making Antrim better well if it's not working then we need "change " of some description.  Iv been there. Done my bit and gave my thoughts and concerns many times And unfortunately for Antrim good performances don't bring about points.

These other counties are competing at the top table..

who are these few players in Antrim you talk about? Manager bashing and now player bashing! You only concern is Antrim, hmmm you've a strange way of supporting them.

The management have the players that wanted to commit to the county, we can't draft players in from other counties and we can't force players to play! I'm nit sure how management was picked but I'm sure there was a process.

So let's get on with the game, hurling at a higher level now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 21, 2018, 07:52:16 AM
Important to keep in mind, there's been no 'tangible' shrinking of the gap in terms of our competitiveness in the juvenile ranks in 10-15 years. Don't believe we'll move up much, higher standards wise than where we are currently whilst that remains the case (a difficult nut to crack up here). Both management and player commitment at senior level seems to be right at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 21, 2018, 02:33:09 PM
Limerick travelling up to Antrim on the Saturday with only a panel of 23 players 3 of which are goalkeepers for Sunday's game. I'm sure they will still have a decent 15 starting minus the UL and NaP players as they will be looking a big winner takes promotion clash with Galway the following week but again I feel we are being massively under rated as some bookies have a handicap of 11 points.
Surely our lads will be well up for this after a disappointing result on Saturday past and will make a good close game out of this and deliver another positive performance like the ones against Galway and Dublin. Saffrons Abú
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 22, 2018, 01:04:49 PM
its all about positives lads. look too them and stop searching for negatives to cling too.

yes we have lost the games and its been disappointing but in years past we would of lost those games by big scores whereas we are holding our own now. it just needs time and support from everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on February 23, 2018, 06:56:05 AM
Strong enough team heading to cushendall with limerick after all the fitzgibbon chat and with Na Par players gone, shows what riches linerick actually have and they have been underachieving for last 2 years I think. A decent showing against them would be great as I believe Linerick have a big year ahead of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2018, 07:44:18 AM
Limerick arguably should have beat kk o get to the ai final a few years ago and possibly could have won it but seem to have dropped off a lot since then. Strange as they do seem to have the players.

In saying that any kind of result for us against them would be a huge result. We historically do very poorly against them - i think they are too physical for us - so iwould behappy with competitiveness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2018, 09:21:01 AM
M Armstrong named at 11 for Sunday, when did he join panel.
Smashing player at underage but haven't seen much of him lately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2018, 09:29:32 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 23, 2018, 09:21:01 AM
M Armstrong named at 11 for Sunday, when did he join panel.
Smashing player at underage but haven't seen much of him lately.

Good addition surely, i ref'd him at the weekend, silly enough challenge game but he hurled rightly, has an eye for scores and strong player... open door policy i assume?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 23, 2018, 10:42:17 AM
1 – R Elliott

2 – A Graffin

3 – J Dillon

4 – S Rooney

5 – R McCambridge

6 – P Burke

7 – J Maskey

8 – E Campbell

9-C McKinley (c)

10 – C Johnston

11 – M Armstrong

12 – N McManus

13 – D Mc Kinley

14 – C McCann

15 – N Elliott

SUBS 16 – E Gillan, 17 – M Donnelly, 18 – N McAuley, 19 –  J McNaughton, 20 – D Murphy, 21 – D Kearney, 22 – D McGuinness, 23 – M Connolly, 24 – D McCloskey, 25 – C Carson, 26 – E O'Neill
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on February 25, 2018, 10:07:22 AM
Perfect Condition for the Match  - dry a little cold but no wind; Optimistic we will get close today with what Limerick are missing but please let us get the 2 points;
Lets be a little more offensive and cut out our short puck out mistakes (dont mind them, its the mistakes coming from them that have let us down)
+10points I feel is a good thing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on February 25, 2018, 04:09:56 PM
Another Disaster very disappointing - cant work the shortpuck out. Ryan in nets was very strong and thought that Rocky in FB played well other defenders were poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 25, 2018, 04:25:54 PM
Really poor performance and tactics were baffling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on February 25, 2018, 04:47:33 PM
Limerick players held on to the ball until they'd an option and with the running forwards they'd always several of them. We weren't as comfortable on the ball and had very few clear options when we did. Movement seems to be a major factor in why we are so far behind.

Rocky gives his all every game and fully deserves the respect he has earned. Our two corner backs had a tough day - the ball going into the corners was good.

A hard day for the Antrim players against a good team. Will be hard to motivate them for the Offaly game. Could we do with modern, fresh minded coaches in our senior county set up? Specifically for movement and tactics?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2018, 05:03:19 PM
Limerick have stuffed us so many times in the league that this result does not surprise me unfortunately, the worst thing about this result was the performance..

the big teams have now got into the grove with regards to training, fitness, tactics and system of play. We have the big game against Offaly and that's the focus.. but we need everyone to lift it..

Now where is old timer ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2018, 05:17:59 PM
The difference in purposeful delivery of the ball, control under pressure and movement off the ball was very obvious. Was always on the cards going by recent form
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 25, 2018, 04:25:54 PM
Really poor performance and tactics were baffling

What tactics the one where we pump nothing ball in top of 6 defenders and two forwards
No system, no movement, no first touch, no fielding,no pace.
Apart from that we are OK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on February 25, 2018, 06:36:50 PM
See Maol Connolly left the panel just before the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on February 25, 2018, 06:56:32 PM
Yeah I seen him heading up the 'hill' before throw in with his kitbag and sticks. Couldn't blame him if he did walk away. Player parachuted into team after a weeks training would do that to a man.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2018, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on February 25, 2018, 06:56:32 PM
Yeah I seen him heading up the 'hill' before throw in with his kitbag and sticks. Couldn't blame him if he did walk away. Player parachuted into team after a weeks training would do that to a man.

Management no doubt trying to strengthen the team, but he wouldn't be the 1st person to take exception to decisions like this.......(if that was the reason.....team named a few days ago so left it late).

Being a young player, who still hasn't bedded a position down with his own club, on that basis I think he should've stayed humble and stuck it out a benefitted from the training.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2018, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 25, 2018, 08:56:17 PM
Tough day at the office for sure. Certainly didn't see it coming as I thought we could really test an understength limerick. 1B can teach a team some tough lessons and today was a real lesson in modern hurling. I still think it's been a good league with plenty of positives to take from it however limerick were in 2nd gear all afternoon and totally blew antrim away.

If Limerick were in 2nd gear and blew us away what's the positives
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 25, 2018, 09:39:48 PM
The match against Offaly has lost any meaning now. We are in a relegation play off with all that is to be decided is the opposition, either Laois or Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2018, 09:42:02 PM
Abundantly clear that our basics are nowhere near where they need to be to be competitive in this league. We haven't put out a competitive minor team in donkeys years. I don't see any evidence on the pitch that players (both Juvenile and Senior) are benefitting from the increased emphasis on inter-county competitions and I think the impact on club leagues this year in particular with this new Joe McDonagh competition will be a complete disaster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 25, 2018, 10:21:05 PM
Define your notion of 'the solution'?

Not a solution but for me id prefer a closer more honest assessment of skill development across each club to keep coaching standards at the forefront of what we do in each and every club. A regular club fixtures calendar all the way through April to Sept. We need more clubs to focus on skill development. More enjoyable seeing more of our players getting regular fixtures. More chance for them to develop

...feel free to contribute not that it will change anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 25, 2018, 10:52:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 25, 2018, 04:25:54 PM
Really poor performance and tactics were baffling

What tactics the one where we pump nothing ball in top of 6 defenders and two forwards
No system, no movement, no first touch, no fielding,no pace.
Apart from that we are OK

Now NAH. Your in danger of being critical of this Antrim team that has done so well. Given Home venue for the game  keeping management happy. Playing Limerick with so many missing  all positives unfortunately none of it mattered. Hard to watch today the only bonus was it wasn't such a long track Home.  Seen Maol leave myself. It must be hard when your not getting on but being honest he hasn't had a look in from they subbed him a few games back. Unfairly IMO - but im an oldie - Communication should be the key to dealing with any group of players and given what happened today I'm unchanged in my views.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2018, 11:16:41 PM
Being an old timer, can you remember (recently) when we play Limerick and gone well? I can't for the life of me remember
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 26, 2018, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 25, 2018, 11:16:41 PM
Being an old timer, can you remember (recently) when we play Limerick and gone well? I can't for the life of me remember

MR 2 your back again to "when have we played and gone well" or "players in other counties that are over weight" so we just accept what's happening because that's the way its always been. That's what's wrong with Antrim hurling.  Sure we came close to Dublin and Galway so that's great.  If u can't get yourself up to play the league leaders at home  to show you want to fight to try and stay in 1b then where do we go. You can't fault anyone for loosing a game so long as they give 💯 percent.  To  say they were flat is an understatement. iMO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on February 26, 2018, 11:22:42 AM
Why should anyone feel we've any right to put it up to teams at this level? You just can't magic a solution to being competitive with the top teams with a few gym and wall ball sessions with a single committed group and expect a massive change. As a county, we (club and county coaching and development) haven't the work done that needs to be done over a significant period of time to match whats being done elsewhere and thats the truth of it. I think we're too isolated up here to see/care the gulf open up from juvenile level that we never get back and then we're always wondering come senior where it all goes wrong  :-\ . Carlow, Laois, Westmeath, Dublin are all close enough to the real action to at least stay at the tail end of the slip stream.

I'd be happy to see more club action at the cost of perennial (destined to fail) attempts to get a foot hold on the top rungs. More chance of the game strengthening that way but that won't generate revenue will it  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on February 26, 2018, 12:08:35 PM
Yesterdays display was just terrible - an off day, who knows;

Our short puck outs, couple of passes in the defense then a long ball when we come under pressure, & we only ever have 1 or possibly two attackers up there against 4 defenders (and that has been the case in all matches to date); Tactics are baffling - would not want to be a forward always having to play against 4 forwards - and our forwards work their socks off and deserve credit but its a tough one for them;

Defenders are in general 3 to 4 yards off their players (except FB) which at this level is too much of an advantage esp when the other teams are picking them out - maybe as we play a sweeper they think we have enough back so dont mark players; And the sweeper was ineffective yesterday as Lim just played around him;

I still see a number of players that struggle to get on their own teams starting here - we have had 4 different CHB's to date ; our half back line / midfield and 1/2 forward line keeps changing - do u think a settled team would help; I thought a few players actually looked unfit also and never worked back once we lost the ball; First 25mins of the game was excellent i thought we were actually going to do it - then when Graffin sold himself for the goal we just folded

I admire those that strip out but how do we get other players to committ? I still feel we are going down, cant see us beating either Offaly or Laois   - gutted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 26, 2018, 12:40:06 PM
 It's not a happy camp from reports today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2018, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on February 26, 2018, 12:08:35 PM
Yesterdays display was just terrible - an off day, who knows;

Our short puck outs, couple of passes in the defense then a long ball when we come under pressure, & we only ever have 1 or possibly two attackers up there against 4 defenders (and that has been the case in all matches to date); Tactics are baffling - would not want to be a forward always having to play against 4 forwards - and our forwards work their socks off and deserve credit but its a tough one for them;

Defenders are in general 3 to 4 yards off their players (except FB) which at this level is too much of an advantage esp when the other teams are picking them out - maybe as we play a sweeper they think we have enough back so dont mark players; And the sweeper was ineffective yesterday as Lim just played around him;

I still see a number of players that struggle to get on their own teams starting here - we have had 4 different CHB's to date ; our half back line / midfield and 1/2 forward line keeps changing - do u think a settled team would help; I thought a few players actually looked unfit also and never worked back once we lost the ball; First 25mins of the game was excellent i thought we were actually going to do it - then when Graffin sold himself for the goal we just folded

I admire those that strip out but how do we get other players to committ? I still feel we are going down, cant see us beating either Offaly or Laois   - gutted

Skull has the main point on this, we cant expect to not be competitive at any juvenile level and then turn up at senior level and have that right.

However even taking that into account we can still do things that we arent currently doing to be 'more' competitive.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2018, 02:22:55 PM
Jesus! one bad display against a quality team and some posters are ready to give up on Antrim hurling!

Getting beat by Limerick was expected, and not just by the keyboard experts, the bookies had us down for and heavy defeat.. thats what we got, and not playing well, sure that happens, players being asked to join the panel, that happens, players taking the hump and walking off the panel that also happens..

The worst thing that has happened was those decent performances as it raised a few expectations, probably a little higher than normal. Skull has banged on about this (on here and no doubt at club level) for skill levels of or clubs at juvenile level and senior level to be improved for years, unfortunately this is just a discussion board with about 17 odd Antrim posters, none of which carry any influence in the corridors of power, or possibly even within their own club!

The minors i thought recently have had some success at different grades but sustainabilty is the key and not just at minor, under 14 at county level has got to improve and then it can shift through the levels and age groups..



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on February 26, 2018, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: groundlie on February 26, 2018, 02:07:11 PM
I'd like to see maol connolly in the team, he was outstanding in the McGurk cup final.. Must be a real kick in the ballix for him to be honest and for the other lads. They done this with Aaron Graffin last year against Carlow and it was a terrible idea.

I don't think Maol walked away because of anyone new starting yesterday.  I wd say it was the last straw.  He's been on the squad a few years now and hasn't made it into the managements plans.  He's had one start in this league and taken off that day to facilitate another newbie. But you can't blame the new players coming in. It's the manor in which things are done that cause the reaction.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: toby47 on March 01, 2018, 11:22:09 AM
I heard from a good source on Monday that Chrissy McKeague had said he wasn't going to play club hurling next year because for Slaughteneil to win an All-Ireland they would have to concentrate on one code.

Chrissy McKaigue accepts that Slaughtneil were not at their "max level" for either of their All-Ireland club semi-finals last month.

The Derry champions retained their Ulster senior hurling and football titles in another remarkable feat last year before eventually falling to Limerick's Na Piarsaigh and Cork giants Nemo Rangers respectively.

McKaigue, who lined-out at centre-back in both defeats, feels it may be time for the club to put their focus into one code if they are to achieve All-Ireland glory.

"As fantastic as it has been in terms of what we have done at Derry and at Ulster level, I just think probably the whole thing caught up with us," McKaigue told 2fm's Game On programme.

"There's a great, almost, romanticism based around the dual component but going forward it's actually very difficult to maintain and sustain.

"Perhaps going forward next year we going to have to look at how we can do things a little bit more, almost, efficiently."

On last Saturday's semi-final defeat to Nemo, the club's hurling captain added: "Definitely fatigue in extra time caught up with us a wee bit and maybe all in all out preparation, for hurling and football, hasn't been as good as what it probably could have been.

"When you go to play the top sides like Na Piarsaigh in the hurling and Nemo in the football you have to be at your max level and we probably just weren't at our max level in either code to be honest."

Going by this article today my source could be correct. If this is the case it could be the perfect chance for an Antrim club to get their hands on the Ulster club again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
what chancesdo we give antrim this weekend away to offaly ? Any team news anyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 01, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
what chancesdo we give antrim this weekend away to offaly ? Any team news anyone?

I wouldn't be surprised if its called off tbh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 01, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
what chancesdo we give antrim this weekend away to offaly ? Any team news anyone?

I wouldn't be surprised if its called off tbh

Offaly has two feet of snow and no thaw to next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 01, 2018, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 01, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
what chancesdo we give antrim this weekend away to offaly ? Any team news anyone?

I wouldn't be surprised if its called off tbh

heard the GAA have called all games off this weekend, dont know if thats true as yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 01, 2018, 01:15:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: MoChara on March 01, 2018, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 12:27:33 PM
what chancesdo we give antrim this weekend away to offaly ? Any team news anyone?

I wouldn't be surprised if its called off tbh

Offaly has two feet of snow and no thaw to next week

Could be a good leveller!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on March 01, 2018, 01:17:25 PM
No thaw.  Just kneel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
Cairan Clarke supposed to be back from injury v Offaly when it happens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2018, 01:35:12 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/281978
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on March 01, 2018, 01:44:51 PM
all GAA matches cancelled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 07, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
is there any word with regards to the league fixtures being announce? the leagues are due to start at Easter weekend are they not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 11, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Well done the county senior team on beating Offaly. Anyone at match who played well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on March 11, 2018, 05:47:23 PM
Some scoring and turnaround on the Portlaoise performance. Well done indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Yeah it is not very often we beat offaly. While in the grand scheme of things not much bearing on anything still very pleasing to beat them plus hopefully a confidence boost for laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 11, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Yeah it is not very often we beat offaly. While in the grand scheme of things not much bearing on anything still very pleasing to beat them plus hopefully a confidence boost for laois.
I'll never forget the match in 1989
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on March 11, 2018, 09:54:21 PM
Still no fixtures 😥😥😥
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on March 12, 2018, 07:08:08 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 08:35:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 11, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Yeah it is not very often we beat offaly. While in the grand scheme of things not much bearing on anything still very pleasing to beat them plus hopefully a confidence boost for laois.
I'll never forget the match in 1989

Klute's goal that day was a thing of beauty. We can only dream of reaching those heights again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on March 12, 2018, 07:33:56 AM
What is the story with fixtures for the league?why is it taking so long? Alot have counties played a round of league this past weekend and we havent even gotten the fixtures yet?I was under the impression that the fixtures commitee starts work on this very soon after last year is over and the relegation/ promotion is finalised?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 12, 2018, 08:15:44 AM
Great result at the weekend, timely boost for us, can have all the hard luck and nearly games you want but its nice to get 2 good points on the board against a team of a 'higher' standard, lets build on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
Quote from: let it fly on March 12, 2018, 07:33:56 AM
What is the story with fixtures for the league?why is it taking so long? Alot have counties played a round of league this past weekend and we havent even gotten the fixtures yet?I was under the impression that the fixtures commitee starts work on this very soon after last year is over and the relegation/ promotion is finalised?

I'm guessing this Joe McDonagh Cup is throwing a spanner in the works. 5 group games. Top 2 teams play before the Leinster final first Sunday in July. I'm saying nothing  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2018, 10:08:29 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 08:28:15 AM
Quote from: let it fly on March 12, 2018, 07:33:56 AM
What is the story with fixtures for the league?why is it taking so long? Alot have counties played a round of league this past weekend and we havent even gotten the fixtures yet?I was under the impression that the fixtures commitee starts work on this very soon after last year is over and the relegation/ promotion is finalised?

I'm guessing this Joe McDonagh Cup is throwing a spanner in the works. 5 group games. Top 2 teams play before the Leinster final first Sunday in July. I'm saying nothing  :o

They're probably Saturday fixtures like the Christy Ring, no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 10:20:30 AM
Only placeholders for those fixtures exists as far as I'm aware.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2018, 12:08:21 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 10:20:30 AM
Only placeholders for those fixtures exists as far as I'm aware.

I see some are fixed and some to be fixed and that's from the Antrim website;

http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/?compID=94758&leagueTable=y (http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/?compID=94758&leagueTable=y)

Sunday fixtures are going to wreck the club leagues. Expect loads of Wednesday night games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/973205339373035520 (https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/973205339373035520)

Allianz Hurling League Division 1B Relegation Play/Off

Antrim v @CLGLaois ,
Venue @DunloyGAC ,

2pm

Sunday 18th March
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2018, 08:58:58 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 12, 2018, 03:17:44 PM
https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/973205339373035520 (https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/973205339373035520)

Allianz Hurling League Division 1B Relegation Play/Off

Antrim v @CLGLaois ,
Venue @DunloyGAC ,

2pm

Sunday 18th March

Not sure I'll be safe to drive for that game! Hopefully I'll get a lift
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 14, 2018, 08:44:54 AM
£13 in on sunday for the game. ill be on stewarding duty in one of the car parks at the parish hall or chapel so wont get to see the start of the game ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 14, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2018, 08:44:54 AM
£13 in on sunday for the game. ill be on stewarding duty in one of the car parks at the parish hall or chapel so wont get to see the start of the game ffs

Separate topic but any idea why the county board only released the 1st four week's fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SCFC on March 15, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
Hi guys.
Laois man in peace here!
Would any local radio station up there be covering Sunday's game?
Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 15, 2018, 08:58:03 AM
yeah this past while they have been covering each game in football and hurling in ulster through the different twitter sites.

https://twitter.com/weareantrim

Im not sure if they are covering the game sunday as of yet but they have covered the most of them so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on March 15, 2018, 08:59:03 AM
You could try 'weareulster.com'. They have covered a number of games online already this season...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 15, 2018, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 14, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 14, 2018, 08:44:54 AM
£13 in on sunday for the game. ill be on stewarding duty in one of the car parks at the parish hall or chapel so wont get to see the start of the game ffs

Separate topic but any idea why the county board only released the 1st four week's fixtures?

prob due to the fact that Antrim will be this Joe McDonnagh Cup and there will be a blanket ban on all league games until Antrims involvement is over in it.

It seems thats the thought process behind it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2018, 10:12:21 AM
Quote from: groundlie on March 15, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
I think the game on Sunday will be a cracker. After the epic win last weekend I really do fancy us to win this one with a bit to spare. Another year in 1b is what we need and deserve.

A bit to spare, I'll take a one point win on the back of a dodgy free
Depends on how Laois travel tbh but if we can't win a relegation play off in dunloy then we deserve to be in div 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 10:47:46 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 15, 2018, 10:12:21 AM
Quote from: groundlie on March 15, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
I think the game on Sunday will be a cracker. After the epic win last weekend I really do fancy us to win this one with a bit to spare. Another year in 1b is what we need and deserve.

A bit to spare, I'll take a one point win on the back of a dodgy free
Depends on how Laois travel tbh but if we can't win a relegation play off in dunloy then we deserve to be in div 2

5 point turn around needed, will home advantage and a previous win be enough? Laois to their credit have maintained a decent level of hurling lately and scored well against us last time out, if Antrim can cut out the needless frees, we'd reduced their scores by at least 8/9 points, some frees are unavoidable but the easy ones for the ref to give will hurt us on Sunday, their free taker didnt miss much  I think..

The other thing was, well done on putting the Limerick game to bed and performing like they did to beat Offaly, that has to be noted, also should we get the result on Sunday, barring the Limerick game (which I never thought we'd be close) Antrim have had a very competitive season against teams who will be at the business end of things come the late summer
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 15, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 15, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
Hi guys.
Laois man in peace here!
Would any local radio station up there be covering Sunday's game?
Many thanks in advance.

www.weareulster.com/antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 16, 2018, 08:47:45 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 15, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 15, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
Hi guys.
Laois man in peace here!
Would any local radio station up there be covering Sunday's game?
Many thanks in advance.

www.weareulster.com/antrim

Are they covering both games? Thought I saw somewhere that they were covering the football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 16, 2018, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 16, 2018, 08:47:45 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 15, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 15, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
Hi guys.
Laois man in peace here!
Would any local radio station up there be covering Sunday's game?
Many thanks in advance.

www.weareulster.com/antrim

Are they covering both games? Thought I saw somewhere that they were covering the football?

Not sure but hopefully they are covering the hurling as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2018, 03:37:49 PM
Antrim 0-17 Laois 1-16 FT

:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 18, 2018, 03:55:07 PM
Looked like pulling it out of the fire until the last 5 minutes. They didn't look as fit as laois towards the end. Unlucky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on March 18, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
So near so far .....we couldn't get Nigel Elliott on the ball at all today. Team played quite well - but again we couldn't get quality ball to our inside line. McManus penalty miss (save) killed us - he missed a few frees and a few from open play too but owes Antrim nothing.

Thought our defence played great. Fair play to the team they are trying to play hurling the right way. Think the management made good subs too. We just couldn't get the ball to Clarkie in this last 5 minutes when he came on.

Unlucky, a gallant effort - 5 point deficit at half time proved too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2018, 06:31:58 PM
2A will be no cakewalk next year either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on March 18, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
That is disappointing.  Antrim gave it a good lash this season so far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on March 18, 2018, 10:53:01 PM
Very Hard to take today but I'm still scratching my head as to why Simon McCrory came on into the forwards. Given that he is a defender and was only back training a week or so it Just didn't make sense. Maybe he plays forwards for club? And where was Rooney? Was he injured or just not in favour. The kid had a Brilliant write in papers a while back Sambo saying he was the next best thing - and now he's not getting a run out?  What happened McCloskey too?  Injured??  A few strange things IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
Quote from: old timers on March 18, 2018, 10:53:01 PM
Very Hard to take today but I'm still scratching my head as to why Simon McCrory came on into the forwards. Given that he is a defender and was only back training a week or so it Just didn't make sense. Maybe he plays forwards for club? And where was Rooney? Was he injured or just not in favour. The kid had a Brilliant write in papers a while back Sambo saying he was the next best thing - and now he's not getting a run out?  What happened McCloskey too?  Injured??  A few strange things IMO

The defense was excellent though so to be honest i don't think any defender there would have improved us? Mcrory started life as a half forward.

Our old achilles heel of forwards as someone said got us. For three quarters of the game we were a good bit better in general play than laois but the other quarter they made it count.

We don't have ball winning forwards so even with way more possession we will not necessarily win games. I was very impressed with the defense and ypung mcnaughton when he came on. Really didn't think we deserved to lose that game but when it could have went either way at the end we didn't take our chances. I saw considerably more positives than negatives though obviously hugely disappointing to be relegated.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 20, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
With the game they are wanting to play, a sweeper system and sometimes two (baffling in itself) there is less emphasis on ball winners when it turns more into a possesion based game.

The problem is that when we did create the deep runners off the shoulder at different points in the game, the ball wasnt released and instead a couple of very poor shots were selected low percentage stuff. This happened a couple of crucial points of the seconf half in particular and when the margins are so fine then this becomes an issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 20, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 20, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
With the game they are wanting to play, a sweeper system and sometimes two (baffling in itself) there is less emphasis on ball winners when it turns more into a possesion based game.

The problem is that when we did create the deep runners off the shoulder at different points in the game, the ball wasnt released and instead a couple of very poor shots were selected low percentage stuff. This happened a couple of crucial points of the seconf half in particular and when the margins are so fine then this becomes an issue.

Yeah
Some players shooting off the back foot when there are options
Then guys stop making the runs
17 wides and  some were due to this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on March 20, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
Anyone a link to the league fixtures county website showing last years leagues and fixtures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on March 22, 2018, 06:29:14 PM
A few Antrim hurlers featured from 1989 here :

https://youtu.be/ozCzwFuPN2Y
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 23, 2018, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on March 20, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
Anyone a link to the league fixtures county website showing last years leagues and fixtures

Hurling fixtures up now - http://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on March 23, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
So first league games this weekend - Division 1, i feel will go the usual way; Division 2 looks very competitive and close to call;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 23, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
So first league games this weekend - Division 1, i feel will go the usual way; Division 2 looks very competitive and close to call;

May dust down the boots and look for my whistle!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 23, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 23, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
So first league games this weekend - Division 1, i feel will go the usual way; Division 2 looks very competitive and close to call;

May dust down the boots and look for my whistle!!

Get the earplugs in..  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 23, 2018, 12:27:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 23, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 23, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
So first league games this weekend - Division 1, i feel will go the usual way; Division 2 looks very competitive and close to call;

May dust down the boots and look for my whistle!!

Get the earplugs in..  ;)

You mean for the players PJ  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2018, 12:40:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 23, 2018, 12:27:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 23, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2018, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on March 23, 2018, 11:30:55 AM
So first league games this weekend - Division 1, i feel will go the usual way; Division 2 looks very competitive and close to call;

May dust down the boots and look for my whistle!!

Get the earplugs in..  ;)

You mean for the players PJ  ;)

I'm a mouse!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?


How did that game end up as there's nothing up on the Antrim web site yet?

WRT the fixtures I see its feast or famine stuff, but with the Joe McDonagh being played on Sundays there's little options available to the fixtures secretary.

I think our secretary mentioned to our senior panel that they'll have 7 games in 20 days late July to early August.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

Is that you MR, How many Darrens are there in St Galls?

How did that game end up as there's nothing up on the Antrim web site yet?

WRT the fixtures I see its feast or famine stuff, but with the Joe McDonagh being played on Sundays there's little options available to the fixtures secretary.

I think our secretary mentioned to our senior panel that they'll have 7 games in 20 days late July to early August.

Must be big Darren O'Hare from the club, the only other Darren I would know, but I'm going to go with the usual WUM who comes on once a year with various names and has a go at me, will see how long he/she last this time before losing the run of himself/herself and looses the plot

Surprising fixtures all the same, was aware the games were going to come out last week so just glad to get the games up and running, I didnt get to our game at the weekend but noticed we were well and truly stuffed by a Armoy at out pitch!! thought it was a typo when i seen the result!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
WRT the fixtures I see its feast or famine stuff, but with the Joe McDonagh being played on Sundays there's little options available to the fixtures secretary.

I think our secretary mentioned to our senior panel that they'll have 7 games in 20 days late July to early August.

Can you imagine what this will be like for dual clubs? Clubs taking it in the jacksie as always.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on March 27, 2018, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

Is that you MR, How many Darrens are there in St Galls?

How did that game end up as there's nothing up on the Antrim web site yet?

WRT the fixtures I see its feast or famine stuff, but with the Joe McDonagh being played on Sundays there's little options available to the fixtures secretary.

I think our secretary mentioned to our senior panel that they'll have 7 games in 20 days late July to early August.

Must be big Darren O'Hare from the club, the only other Darren I would know, but I'm going to go with the usual WUM who comes on once a year with various names and has a go at me, will see how long he/she last this time before losing the run of himself/herself and looses the plot

Surprising fixtures all the same, was aware the games were going to come out last week so just glad to get the games up and running, I didnt get to our game at the weekend but noticed we were well and truly stuffed by a Armoy at out pitch!! thought it was a typo when i seen the result!


Surel you were missing a few and impacted by the county Football match - looking at last years results you would have been expected to win that one at home - u must have been missing players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2018, 11:48:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM

Is that you MR, How many Darrens are there in St Galls?


Must be big Darren O'Hare from the club, the only other Darren I would know, but I'm going to go with the usual WUM who comes on once a year with various names and has a go at me, will see how long he/she last this time before losing the run of himself/herself and looses the plot

If he claimed to be the said NG clubman and reported you ... is that not a banning offense MR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on March 27, 2018, 01:54:05 PM
Big scoring by Armoy, should help with confidence. Will be interesting to see how they do against Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 27, 2018, 11:48:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:28:22 AM

Is that you MR, How many Darrens are there in St Galls?


Must be big Darren O'Hare from the club, the only other Darren I would know, but I'm going to go with the usual WUM who comes on once a year with various names and has a go at me, will see how long he/she last this time before losing the run of himself/herself and looses the plot

If he claimed to be the said NG clubman and reported you ... is that not a banning offense MR?

Apologies if I outed anyone, it wasn't my intentions.

I like MR2 thought it was the usual WUM who pops up on a regular basis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on March 27, 2018, 03:06:01 PM
Save your whatsapp messages for the mods investigation  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 27, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 27, 2018, 03:06:01 PM
Save your whatsapp messages for the mods investigation  ;)

Oops, bloody phone crashed and wiped all my correspondence.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: darrenNGA on March 30, 2018, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

eh?

Someone sent off in your game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 30, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 30, 2018, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2018, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: darrenNGA on March 27, 2018, 10:19:45 AM
Many sending offs at the weekend or just in the Rossa game?

eh?

Someone sent off in your game?

At the st Galls game? You'd have been at it, think it was two yellows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 02, 2018, 11:26:35 AM
No major shocks over Easter in the Hurling leagues. Rasharkin beating Carey away maybe the only one. Ballycastle seemed to be ran close by Armoy in that Derby.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 02, 2018, 11:37:07 AM
Humpy mckillen managing rasharkin i think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 02, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
I was just looking at the fixtures for next weekend on the county website. Disappointing that every match is on at the same time across the divisions. Surely most neutrals would want to get to see Loughgiel V Dunloy? Similar with ourselves and Loughgiel last weekend? Couldn't we have the other games at 2pm and then Loughgiel V Dunloy at 5pm? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 02, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
I was just looking at the fixtures for next weekend on the county website. Disappointing that every match is on at the same time across the divisions. Surely most neutrals would want to get to see Loughgiel V Dunloy? Similar with ourselves and Loughgiel last weekend? Couldn't we have the other games at 2pm and then Loughgiel V Dunloy at 5pm?
The clubs with agreement can change them if everyone is happy, it worked well that weekend there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 03, 2018, 12:16:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 02, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
I was just looking at the fixtures for next weekend on the county website. Disappointing that every match is on at the same time across the divisions. Surely most neutrals would want to get to see Loughgiel V Dunloy? Similar with ourselves and Loughgiel last weekend? Couldn't we have the other games at 2pm and then Loughgiel V Dunloy at 5pm?
Good piece by Colum Thompson in The Saffron Gael about this (and possibly inspired by this post).

http://thesaffrongael.com/2018/04/02/i-want-to-see-more-hurling/ (http://thesaffrongael.com/2018/04/02/i-want-to-see-more-hurling/)

Hard to disagree with anything he has written. The fixtures people have a hard job at times of the year bit then there are occasions early on when all teams are fielding, there are no clashes and seemingly promoting attendance at matches is a no-brainer. Very unimaginative.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on April 03, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
I have to agree with JJ and Colum on this. It makes sense to stagger the fixture throw in times to give us all a chance to get to games over the weekend. And as Colum stated it would generate more income at the gates. It can only be a win /win  situation for all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2018, 08:54:57 AM
i would agree with that as well SIE tho what i will say is the state of the league fixtures this year means we play the reverse fixture against Lgiel on the 21st October - a game that will prob never get played as its over 1 month from the second last fixture.

where is the sense in that and what though put towards clubs for games and gate receipts? this fixture generates a good gate for both clubs yet its basically never going to be played, like those other fixtures that weekend, at the end of October.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on April 04, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
The fixtures truely are baffling - one match in May, one in June, a couple in July (depending on what Div you play) , 4 games in Aug in 12days and then nothing till end of Oct.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 04, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
with the championship being a group stage theres the potential for a lot more of those league games never to be played. its valuable gate receipts lost for each club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Exiled Ruairi on April 04, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
Being involved with teams in the lower Divisions for a few years now, it's hard to get a game moved between teams most of the time because most teams think you are missing players etc and want to get a perceived advantage. I think the County Board should look at this and stagger start times of certain games that draw an interest to the neutrals. It couldn't be that hard? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 04, 2018, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: Exiled Ruairi on April 04, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
Being involved with teams in the lower Divisions for a few years now, it's hard to get a game moved between teams most of the time because most teams think you are missing players etc and want to get a perceived advantage. I think the County Board should look at this and stagger start times of certain games that draw an interest to the neutrals. It couldn't be that hard?


It would be harder than you think.

Take the weekend past for instance. All three Ards clubs were up in the glens.
Portaferry must have come to an agreement with Dunloy to play their games on the Saturday, fair play to them.
We approached the Dall for Saturday games as well as we run our annual 10k race on the Sunday, they couldn't facilitate as lads were working on Saturday. Fair enough.
Ballycran and Loughgeil played at the same time IIRC.
To facilitate spreading both games apart would mean an early start for one travelling team and / or a late journey home for another and this on Easter Sunday.

Parallel games in the Ards also affects gate receipts, would a North Antrim team be happy with an evening throw in down in the Ards on a Sunday, not getting home the far side of 10pm?

See things from both sides lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 05, 2018, 08:23:49 AM
Loughgiel v Dunloy is now changed.

Reserve 4:30pm & Senior 6pm.

seems someone was listening :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2018, 08:29:26 AM
interesting game yesterday between ourselves and Lgiel. Was a good entertaining game with plenty happening. I don't think either side played well or up to their full potential so its hard this early in the season to see what will be come the end of the year.

Its prob the first time in a fair few years that we have won the reserve and senior game against Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 09, 2018, 09:35:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 09, 2018, 08:29:26 AM
interesting game yesterday between ourselves and Lgiel. Was a good entertaining game with plenty happening. I don't think either side played well or up to their full potential so its hard this early in the season to see what will be come the end of the year.

Its prob the first time in a fair few years that we have won the reserve and senior game against Loughgiel.

Got to the game, Dunloy looked as if there was bit more in the tank. Conditions not great for the match with a heavy pitch before the rain came on, maybe time LG took a look at that pitch it seems to have deteriorated badly over the last number of years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2018, 11:39:03 AM
I do know that its been used for training for their teams but that boils down to no space for everyone to use. we are lucky in a sense that our main pitch is closed all the time to any training sessions and it keeps it in a decent shape.

tho the rain and bad weather hasnt helped any of the pitches this year so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2018, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 09, 2018, 11:39:03 AM
I do know that its been used for training for their teams but that boils down to no space for everyone to use. we are lucky in a sense that our main pitch is closed all the time to any training sessions and it keeps it in a decent shape.

tho the rain and bad weather hasnt helped any of the pitches this year so far

The big ball games coming up wont make them any better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: theskull1 on April 09, 2018, 12:12:58 PM
Can't remember any work being done in Fr Healy in my lifetime...thats a long time  :-\.......stand to be corrected
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2018, 12:20:54 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 09, 2018, 12:12:58 PM
Can't remember any work being done in Fr Healy in my lifetime...thats a long time  :-\.......stand to be corrected

You'd have hurled senior on the old pitch before the new one surely  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 09, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
Great to see our reserves getting a win in LG
The senior match was effected by the rain. Thought decky smith put in a shift for a rookie
How much injury time was played. Think mark needs to get that watch calibrated  >:(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2018, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 09, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
Great to see our reserves getting a win in LG
The senior match was effected by the rain. Thought decky smith put in a shift for a rookie
How much injury time was played. Think mark needs to get that watch calibrated  >:(

Many injuries?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 09, 2018, 04:59:53 PM
a few knocks on either team but none that were too long in terms of stoppage.

He frustrated both sides to be fair but the penalty call was very soft. a shirt pull off the ball and it merited a penalty. both sides were standing bemused as to what was going on and so were the supporters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 10, 2018, 01:30:56 PM
Watched Loughgiel v Dunloy and enjoyed a good game. I think Dunloy looked sharp. They got the scores a bit handier than Loughgiel and might have won by more on a dry pitch. They are ahead of the rest at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 10, 2018, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 10, 2018, 01:30:56 PM
Watched Loughgiel v Dunloy and enjoyed a good game. I think Dunloy looked sharp. They got the scores a bit handier than Loughgiel and might have won by more on a dry pitch. They are ahead of the rest at the minute.

Christ 3 games in and the cute hoorism has been taken up a notch  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 11, 2018, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 10, 2018, 01:30:56 PM
Watched Loughgiel v Dunloy and enjoyed a good game. I think Dunloy looked sharp. They got the scores a bit handier than Loughgiel and might have won by more on a dry pitch. They are ahead of the rest at the minute.

i didnt think we played as well as we could have to be fair. Still a long way to go to be up to Cdalls standard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on April 11, 2018, 01:00:50 PM
Hahahaha If you are the county champions you are the team to beat. The pressure getting to you already?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 11, 2018, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on April 11, 2018, 01:00:50 PM
Hahahaha If you are the county champions you are the team to beat. The pressure getting to you already?

;D lol sure we were beat a few weeks ago, were in bother lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
What's the story with Antrim U17's in the Celtic Challenge?

Is this a development squad with the bigger effort going into the Leinster championship at U18?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 16, 2018, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
What's the story with Antrim U17's in the Celtic Challenge?

Is this a development squad with the bigger effort going into the Leinster championship at U18?
Very hard to get our best U17 players to take it seriously, when they will be on the u18 team anyway. Not sure why it appears to be more of a problem in Antrim but going by own young fellas experience at this grade albeit a couple of years ago, it would be fairly negative.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: Last Man on April 16, 2018, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
What's the story with Antrim U17's in the Celtic Challenge?

Is this a development squad with the bigger effort going into the Leinster championship at U18?
Very hard to get our best U17 players to take it seriously, when they will be on the u18 team anyway. Not sure why it appears to be more of a problem in Antrim but going by own young fellas experience at this grade albeit a couple of years ago, it would be fairly negative.

Are they two separate management structures for the two teams?

In Down it's the one and the same with quite a large overlap anyway in terms of players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 16, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
Not sure tbh but I'd say it's much the same, what minor manager is going to say if you don't show for the U17s you will be gassed for the minors. Just won't happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 02:07:31 PM
I think Antrim are playing an u16 squad in the competition.  Antrim are a "graded county" therefore minor panelists are not eligible to play in the Celtic Challenge.

The following is taken from the Operations Manual:

Involvement in the County Minor Hurling Panel
Players who are on the Inter-County Minor Hurling Panel in the following Counties are not eligible to participate in this competition: Antrim; Down; Carlow; Clare; Cork; Dublin; Galway; Kilkenny; Kildare; Laois; Limerick; Meath; Offaly; Tipperary; Waterford; Westmeath; Wexford.
A player will be deemed to be on the Inter-County Minor Hurling Panel if he is one of the 24 named match day players for the Provincial Minor Hurling Championships.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on April 16, 2018, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
What's the story with Antrim U17's in the Celtic Challenge?

Is this a development squad with the bigger effort going into the Leinster championship at U18?

yes. Antrim are playing their u16 hurlers in celtic challenge. u17 playing in leinster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: breakingball on April 16, 2018, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 12:21:03 PM
What's the story with Antrim U17's in the Celtic Challenge?

Is this a development squad with the bigger effort going into the Leinster championship at U18?

yes. Antrim are playing their u16 hurlers in celtic challenge. u17 playing in leinster

That makes more sense, although what Pjoe is saying mustn't be strictly true as I know of a few of our U17 lads who play on that Celtic challenge team are also part of the U17 minor team in the lower level Grade 3 in Leinster.

Down just wouldn't have the playing pool to not play without the U17's in the Celtic Challenge and even then I think the lad doing goals for the U17's was playing U14 last year if facebook is anything to go by.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 06:04:27 PM
Yes I had heard Down were playing Minors even though they too are graded.  Could be an interesting situation they find themselves in with regard to the regulations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 16, 2018, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 16, 2018, 06:04:27 PM
Yes I had heard Down were playing Minors even though they too are graded.  Could be an interesting situation they find themselves in with regard to the regulations.

Yip,
Down management first year in the job made a balls allegedly and will do well to not get booted out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 17, 2018, 09:24:38 AM
If they were told then yes that wouldn't be on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 17, 2018, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 17, 2018, 09:24:38 AM
If they were told then yes that wouldn't be on.

I don't think it was intentional, I just think the young lad in the job this year didn't understand the rules properly. Probably should have been explained to him better by someone on the payroll if you know what I mean.

TBH even if they do get kept in the Celtic Challenge they're now far too highly graded for the team that they'll have to put in it as all the Celtic Challenge games are on the same days as they're playing in Leinster.
Even better, it will make Down have to take in a bigger expanse of players who otherwise would be cast aside as not suitable and proper development can be done.

I thought there was something amiss  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on April 17, 2018, 10:15:13 AM
I think the management team might have been made aware prior to the first game, but perhaps decided to go ahead anyway.  Maybe go caught up in the possibility of "bright lights of success" and the chance to win. 

The whole concept behind the Celtic Challenge is to give all players - particularly on the fringes of minor squads the opportunity to compete at inter county level.  With the 2 year gap between the then U16 and U18 (minor) competitions a significant amount of players were getting lost.  However, with minor now at U17 this has changed the situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 17, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 17, 2018, 10:15:13 AM
I think the management team might have been made aware prior to the first game, but perhaps decided to go ahead anyway.  Maybe go caught up in the possibility of "bright lights of success" and the chance to win. 

The whole concept behind the Celtic Challenge is to give all players - particularly on the fringes of minor squads the opportunity to compete at inter county level.  With the 2 year gap between the then U16 and U18 (minor) competitions a significant amount of players were getting lost.  However, with minor now at U17 this has changed the situation.

I was giving the lad the benefit of the doubt, but you could be right as some of the coaches involved would have know right enough. Whether that feel on deaf ears is another story.
I don't know the lad in question personally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on April 18, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 17, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 17, 2018, 10:15:13 AM
I think the management team might have been made aware prior to the first game, but perhaps decided to go ahead anyway.  Maybe go caught up in the possibility of "bright lights of success" and the chance to win. 

The whole concept behind the Celtic Challenge is to give all players - particularly on the fringes of minor squads the opportunity to compete at inter county level.  With the 2 year gap between the then U16 and U18 (minor) competitions a significant amount of players were getting lost.  However, with minor now at U17 this has changed the situation.

I was giving the lad the benefit of the doubt, but you could be right as some of the coaches involved would have know right enough. Whether that feel on deaf ears is another story.
I don't know the lad in question personally.

When Down played Antrim in the Celtic Challenge at Easter time they played most, if not all, of their U17 panel.  It was mentioned previously that they are a County that was not supposed to be doing that.  I would say that the Antrim team got more out of the match playing against a side that were physically stronger and older than them. Lessons gained, hopefully. I just cant understand Down's reasoning behind this.  Whilst they topped their league its not really a true reflection.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 18, 2018, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: old timers on April 18, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 17, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 17, 2018, 10:15:13 AM
I think the management team might have been made aware prior to the first game, but perhaps decided to go ahead anyway.  Maybe go caught up in the possibility of "bright lights of success" and the chance to win. 

The whole concept behind the Celtic Challenge is to give all players - particularly on the fringes of minor squads the opportunity to compete at inter county level.  With the 2 year gap between the then U16 and U18 (minor) competitions a significant amount of players were getting lost.  However, with minor now at U17 this has changed the situation.

I was giving the lad the benefit of the doubt, but you could be right as some of the coaches involved would have know right enough. Whether that feel on deaf ears is another story.
I don't know the lad in question personally.

When Down played Antrim in the Celtic Challenge at Easter time they played most, if not all, of their U17 panel.  It was mentioned previously that they are a County that was not supposed to be doing that.  I would say that the Antrim team got more out of the match playing against a side that were physically stronger and older than them. Lessons gained, hopefully. I just cant understand Down's reasoning behind this.  Whilst they topped their league its not really a true reflection.

I'd agree with that and hence I smelled a rat.

TBH I don't think Down would have enough hurlers to put out an U17 team and an U16 team on the same day and if they did it would be a very young U16 team and will get walloped right left and centre down in Abbotstown especially if using the gradings to date!

I don't think reasoning comes into it with some lads and my little bit of research on the management for the current U17's suggests as much!

Down Coaching and Development are very quiet on this one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on April 19, 2018, 09:00:48 PM
Boylesports have betting up for the club championship

Cushendall   11/8
Loughgiel     6/4
Dunloy.        9/2
Ballycastle   13/2
Rossa          25/1
Sarsfield.     33/1
St Johns      50/1

Surprised to see Dunloy at such a big price and Ballycastle are definitely too short
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 20, 2018, 09:31:49 AM
would agree with them odds, were not the favs at all :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on April 20, 2018, 09:46:40 AM
I'd take a punt on Rossa ahead of Ballycastle.  They could be the dark horse this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on April 20, 2018, 12:12:51 PM
/The Johnnies at 50's - i thought they gave Dunloy as good a game as any team in the championship last year ; But Dunloy are a great price
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 23, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
Are this weekends fixtures the last then until the county season is over?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 23, 2018, 03:27:00 PM
Theres no hurling fixtures now until weds 23rd of May
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 23, 2018, 04:03:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 23, 2018, 03:27:00 PM
Theres no hurling fixtures now until weds 23rd of May

I thought there was one more round before the break, bit of a joke for the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2018, 08:22:46 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 23, 2018, 04:03:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 23, 2018, 03:27:00 PM
Theres no hurling fixtures now until weds 23rd of May

I thought there was one more round before the break, bit of a joke for the clubs.

I know a lot of the clubs have sorted out some of the fixtures themselves to get games organised without county players. Ourselves and Lgiel have arranged to play each other in June time and i know the Down clubs are keen to play as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on April 26, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Anyone else here think we have a great chance of winning the Joe McDonagh cup. We played at higher level in the league bar all the sides bar Laois who we really should have beaten in the relegation play off. We have 3 home games versus Carlow Laois and Kerry and with players back from injury like Ciaran Clarke who weren't able to take part in much league action. I believe we can do it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 26, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on April 26, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Anyone else here think we have a great chance of winning the Joe McDonagh cup. We played at higher level in the league bar all the sides bar Laois who we really should have beaten in the relegation play off. We have 3 home games versus Carlow Laois and Kerry and with players back from injury like Ciaran Clarke who weren't able to take part in much league action. I believe we can do it

they are all tough games and im sure each of the sides we are playing are all thinking they can beat everyone else. Its that well balanced that any of the sides could take it.

Away to meath to start is a tough opener but as you say we have 3 good home games and those are the games that we need to be winning.

Clarky is still injured as far as i was told last night, well that he wasnt training, but he will be a great asset to the panel as hes a quality hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 26, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on April 26, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Anyone else here think we have a great chance of winning the Joe McDonagh cup. We played at higher level in the league bar all the sides bar Laois who we really should have beaten in the relegation play off. We have 3 home games versus Carlow Laois and Kerry and with players back from injury like Ciaran Clarke who weren't able to take part in much league action. I believe we can do it

We have a chance of winning all the games but also a chance of losing all the games!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on April 26, 2018, 11:14:51 PM
 The talk from our boys down here is a few well establish players walked away from the Antrim panel for various reasons and Clarke's name was mentioned.  Don't know if there's any truth in it but worrying all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 02, 2018, 05:17:49 AM
Arron Graffin definitely not be playing as he is in the states
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 02, 2018, 01:03:52 PM
According to Saffron gael Graffin is a doubt?? with a hamstring injury??  you wonder whats going on 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on May 02, 2018, 11:12:50 PM
Graffin Home Today, still got a hamstring injury, im told he's 100% Out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 03, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
any ideas/news on the team for the weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 04, 2018, 02:23:19 AM
Team named
1 Ryan Elliott

2 David Kearney
3 John Dillon
4 Ryan Mc Cambridge

5 Paddy Burke
6 Conor McKinley Capt 
7 Joe Maskey

8 Nigel Elliott
9 Simon McCrory

10 Conor Carson
11 Conor Johnston
12 Neil Mc Manus

13 Donal Mc Kinley
14 Michael Armstrong
15 Eoghan Campbell

16 (GK) James O Mullan
17 Matthew Donnelly
18 Neal Mc Auley
19 Conor Boyd
20 Conor McCann
21 James Mc Naughton
22 Stephen Rooney
23 Gerard Walsh
24 Eoin O Neill
25 Ryan Mc Nulty
26 Conor Mc Hugh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 04, 2018, 09:08:38 AM
 Cushendall seniors are getting a run out on Saturday then. lets up we get a win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on May 04, 2018, 09:12:18 AM
Is that sour grapes - old timer;

I think this team looks very well balanced and should put in a good shift - really fancy a win;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 04, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
not at all Sweeper - just stating the obvious and I really do hope your prediction is right and we get the campaign off to a winning start for the sake of Antrim hurling not just Cushendall -    lets hope to god Sambo (sorry the management committee) get it right for this campaign regardless of how well we play.  Playing well and getting beat just isnt enough at this stage or at any stage really. IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 04, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 04, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
not at all Sweeper - just stating the obvious and I really do hope your prediction is right and we get the campaign off to a winning start for the sake of Antrim hurling not just Cushendall -    lets hope to god Sambo (sorry the management committee) get it right for this campaign regardless of how well we play.  Playing well and getting beat just isnt enough at this stage or at any stage really. IMO

I have to agree playing well was the hope and expectation for the league this year, winning games is the hope and expectation for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: let it fly on May 04, 2018, 05:44:28 PM
Id imagine that nigel elliot and eoin campbell will switch?? I dont think that nigel is a good enough in the tackle out around the middle much better suited to wing forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on May 04, 2018, 06:45:50 PM
Nigel Elliot is quite possibly the best in Antrim at breaking the tackle, over the last few years he has added some real power to his game. Much more suited to breaking the line from deep.  Much more effective from half forwards/midfield than stuck in the inside forward line.

Campbell no doubt will get the sweeper role.  I'd expect McManus & Armstrong to find themselves in a two man full forward line for large parts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 04, 2018, 11:02:32 PM
Quote from: maxpower on May 04, 2018, 06:45:50 PM
Nigel Elliot is quite possibly the best in Antrim at breaking the tackle, over the last few years he has added some real power to his game. Much more suited to breaking the line from deep.  Much more effective from half forwards/midfield than stuck in the inside forward line.

Campbell no doubt will get the sweeper role.  I'd expect McManus & Armstrong to find themselves in a two man full forward line for large parts.
There's max - a blast from the past! You been in Maghaberry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 04, 2018, 11:37:27 PM
No Conor McCann in starting 15. For me that's a big surprise is he injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 05, 2018, 04:44:26 PM
Well done lads   Well worth the trip. Some great scores and delighted to see Mccann coming off the bench. Keep it going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 05, 2018, 05:00:47 PM
Great result with Laois losing to Westmeath as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 05, 2018, 05:50:21 PM
Great result from the lads, wasn't able to make it due to work commitments but after a bad start the lads must have really knuckled down and great to see them put up a big total.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 05, 2018, 08:53:16 PM
Any club fancy coming down to Westmeath on June 2nd and bring an u14 and/or u12 team to play a game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 09, 2018, 03:03:44 PM
Massive game on Saturday and one that will be far tougher than last weeks victory over Meath. Anyone know if our panel picked up any knocks or injury doubts for this game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 10, 2018, 10:55:33 PM
Any team news for the weekend.  Is Graffin back yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 10, 2018, 11:49:59 PM
Antrim Panel v Carlow #JoeMcDonaghCup

1.Ryan Elliott
2.Stephen Rooney
3 John Dillon
4 Conor McKinley. (Captain)
5 Joe Maskey
6. Paddy Burke
7 Ryan McCambridge
8 Eoghan Campbell
9 Simon McCrory
10 Nigel Elliott
11 Conor Johnston
12 Neil McManus
13 Donal McKinley
14 Michael Armstrong
15 Conor McCann
16 Eoin Gillan
17 Matthew Donnelly
18 Neil McAuley
19 Conor Boyd
20 Conor Carson
21 James McNaughton
22 David Kearney
23 Daniel McCluskey
24 Eoin O'Neill
25 Arron Graffin
26 Eddie McCluskey
27 Gérard Walsh
28 Ryan McNulty
29 Conor McHugh
30 Tommy Burns

Good luck lads.

Lets get out and support our county on Saturday #BeThereAllTheWay #Saffs

Throw in 3PM , Corrigan Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2018, 04:19:14 PM
Antrim in control, Carlow down to 13, Antrim down to 14

5 points in front
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 12, 2018, 05:12:18 PM
Congratulations Antrim 3point win in the end. Home advantage probably swung it for us nothing between both teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 12, 2018, 07:19:09 PM
Any word on McManus?? And What was ref doing today  utter madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2018, 08:56:01 PM
Another good win for Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on May 12, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 12, 2018, 07:19:09 PM
Any word on McManus?? And What was ref doing today  utter madness

6 stitches in his penis apparently  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 12, 2018, 11:48:30 PM
What happened was he stamped on or what?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 13, 2018, 12:27:43 AM
Great win for the lads, was some battle of a game, referee was clueless. Be a hard game with Laois next weekend now especially with Micky Armstrong breaking his arm and Joe Maskey breaking his foot, Neil also a doubt after getting his privates burst open
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2018, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 12, 2018, 11:48:30 PM
What happened was he stamped on or what?
Didn't see it but I'd suspect he got the butt at full force. If so it's a filthy act and a red card doesn't even start to cover it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 13, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
There was so much going on in that game it was hard to keep up. Carlow let themselves down a huge amount. Some of their actions were pure thuggery. It was heartening to see an Antrim team battling like they did, in the right way. But Jesus, they make you nervous! Great win and hopefully the injuries aren't as bad as first feared.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 13, 2018, 01:17:44 PM
According to the umpire Richard Coadys assault on Neill McManus was "the worst he ever saw". If that is the case he Coady should get a long ban from the game. Hope Neill recovers fully.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 13, 2018, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2018, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: MoChara on May 12, 2018, 11:48:30 PM
What happened was he stamped on or what?
Didn't see it but I'd suspect he got the butt at full force. If so it's a filthy act and a red card doesn't even start to cover it.

If you did that sort of damage in a bar on a Saturday night you could be looking at a sleep over in maghaberry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 13, 2018, 01:51:57 PM
Absolutely a life time ban would be well justified. What if Neill McManus can't have a family because of it. Will be interesting to see how this develops. Only wish Neill a speedy and full recovery.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 13, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
Carlow did not come to Corrigan to play hurling. Their challenges were bordering on pure thuggery.

Simon McCrory seemed to be singled out and the challenge on him where the Carlow lad got the line wouldnt be seen in a game of rugby.

The first half Antrim played well and the turning point was the sending off of Eoghan Campbell for a challenge that warranted a yellow never mind a red. (Check the BBC website for some highlights).

Antrim hung on until half time and instead of Carlow playing hurling in the second half with a man advantage they resorted to absolute brutality and credit to Antrim that they stood up to that but at a cost with 3 players definitely out probably for the rest of the season.

What happened to Neil McManus has no place in any sport and I really hope he makes a full recovery.

Match v Laois is in Dunloy next Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2018, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 13, 2018, 08:46:33 PM
I was one of the unlucky bystanders that had to witness the evil assult on Neil McManus. Thugery and totally uncalled for. Im still sick from witnessing it and what hurts me more is my children seeing a viscous assault on metres away from them. Also whoever the brave Carlow water carrier was who congratulated the thug who carried out the attack shame on you.
Shed any light on what the Carlow lad did to leave in him in such a bad way?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: AQMP on May 14, 2018, 09:41:54 AM
I was talking to a friend who was at the game.  He said Carlow's display of pure dirty play was the worst he's seen in years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2018, 10:21:29 AM
I just heard what happened to Neil. I hope the lad makes  a full and speedy recovery. Lowest of the lowest of blows. A life ban surely.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 14, 2018, 10:31:20 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/44094965

Colm Bonner's comments at the end of the video clip regarding the physicality.

Obviously his players weren't listening
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 14, 2018, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 14, 2018, 10:21:29 AM
I just heard what happened to Neil. I hope the lad makes  a full and speedy recovery. Lowest of the lowest of blows. A life ban surely.

Agree completely. utterly shocking stuff for anyone to assault someone like that and leave them needing hospital treatment. Hopefully Neil is back and fully recovered as soon as possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 14, 2018, 01:57:48 PM
terrible actions from too many of the Carlow lads, they always had a sour oul element with them and that extends to some supporters also who love to throw out the oul British Bastards routine.  can anyone confirm the match this weekend has moved from Cushendall and Is now in Dunloy ????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 14, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
Match v Laois is in Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 15, 2018, 11:12:48 AM
Grapevine is saying Clark is back for this weekend and kealin Molloy is training with the squad also
Mc Manus is also making a big effort to start on Saturday as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on May 15, 2018, 11:16:11 AM
Clarke would be a great addition for the weekend with Armstrong unable to play, think molloy is to light yet however his speed could cause problems, is chris oc joining up with the squad again ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2018, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 15, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
Friend has told me that James mckeague is in line to start on Saturday. Mcguinness from rossa is also back on the panel.

Down to the bare bones so its just a case getting the form players in for those positions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 15, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2018, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 15, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
Friend has told me that James mckeague is in line to start on Saturday. Mcguinness from rossa is also back on the panel.

Down to the bare bones so its just a case getting the form players in for those positions?

Yeah I dont see what else can be done at this stage, bearing in my the guys who are still on the panel and giving them their dues. Bring in players to add to it and bulk up the squad.

Not much could be done about this one, not expecting to lose that volume of players in one game certainly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on May 18, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
Fair play to Mcmanus for making himself available.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O’Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O’Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 18, 2018, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 18, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
Fair play to Mcmanus for making himself available.

good to see him back again so soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!

*many puc outs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 18, 2018, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!

You mean the ones coming down 70s style with snow on them
How many inter county forwards have to win them these days
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on May 18, 2018, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 15, 2018, 11:26:40 AM
Friend has told me that James mckeague is in line to start on Saturday. Mcguinness from rossa is also back on the panel.

Your friend may give up the undercover reporting..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!

*many puc outs.

Yes, many!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 18, 2018, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!

You mean the ones coming down 70s style with snow on them
How many inter county forwards have to win them these days

They might be full back hurried clearances also! But if you think physically we are strong there then alright! I think these lads are superb hurlers by they way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 19, 2018, 09:16:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 18, 2018, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2018, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 18, 2018, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 18, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Team v Laois
                          1 Ryan Elliott.
2 Stephen Rooney. 3 John Dillon. 4 Arron Graffin. 
5 Paddy Burke. 6. Conor McKinley. (Capt). 7 Ryan McCambridge.
           8 Eddie McCluskey. 9 Simon McCrory.
10 Nigel Elliott. 11 Conor Johnston. 12 James McNaughton. 
13 Donal McKinley.  14 Conor Carson.  15 Daniel McCluskey. 

16 Chrissy O'Connell
17 Matthew Donnelly. 
18 Neil McAuley   
19 Conor Boyd. 
20 Conor McCann. 
21  Neil McManus. 
22  David Kearney. 
23 Gérard Walsh. 
24 Eoin O'Neill. 
25 Ryan McNulty. 
26 Ciaran Clarke
27 Keelan Molloy
28 Conor McHugh. 
29 Tommy Burns

Don't feel Carson is fit for a full game better coming in off the bench. Good to see McNaughton starting brilliant player however Gérard Walsh should be starting imo one of the best in the county, that half forward line is scary if it gets time to hurl

The half forward line won't win much puc outs!

You mean the ones coming down 70s style with snow on them
How many inter county forwards have to win them these days

They might be full back hurried clearances also! But if you think physically we are strong there then alright! I think these lads are superb hurlers by they way
The ball coming out of our defence was a big part of our problems through the league, well improved last few games though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 19, 2018, 06:52:46 PM
Hard to take today.  And fair play to McManus for playing and to be honest they really would be in dire straights without him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 19, 2018, 07:35:21 PM
Terrible first half, 11 wides
far better against the breeze
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 19, 2018, 09:40:40 PM
Very disappointing today. Silly mistakes and laois's ability to punish us on limited possession crippled us.

First half killed us. That is twice they have beat us in dunloy without being any better :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 20, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
Anyone at Dunloy/cushendall match tonight.  Didn't get to it myself.  See it was close enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on May 20, 2018, 11:01:21 PM
Dunloy v Dall game very competitive game.  Spilled out of control on a few occasions and sets up a real edge for later on in the year.  Wouldn't have done much for county panel harmony !!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 07:14:15 AM
Disappointed to have lost to Dunloy. Thought we were the better team for much of the game. You'd have to question the free count. Dunloy got 14 scorable frees, we got 5. We gave away 3 points from short passing errors and Dunloy had 4 frees moved forward 10 yards and scored them all. Never the less pleased with the display of a lot of our players. Dunloy now very much favorites for the championship having beaten ourselves and loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 07:53:09 AM
You give a away more frees in a scoreable position so that's maybe the reason for the free count? And lads slandering to the be ref and he moves it forward, well that's just indiscipline, a word with the players would reduce that surely?

And if you were the better team but gave up three easy scores by short passing errors then that doesn't sound like the best team

To only be up two points with a strong wind behind you at half time seems to be one reason you lost, and you converted a penalty also so the ref did give yas something..

League game won't tell us who'll win championship, but fair play to both teams playing so soon after the county players were playing the day before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 21, 2018, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 07:53:09 AM
You give a away more frees in a scoreable position so that's maybe the reason for the free count? And lads slandering to the be ref and he moves it forward, well that's just indiscipline, a word with the players would reduce that surely?

And if you were the better team but gave up three easy scores by short passing errors then that doesn't sound like the best team

To only be up two points with a strong wind behind you at half time seems to be one reason you lost, and you converted a penalty also so the ref did give yas something..

League game won't tell us who'll win championship, but fair play to both teams playing so soon after the county players were playing the day before

Where you at the game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on May 21, 2018, 08:40:02 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 07:14:15 AM
Disappointed to have lost to Dunloy. Thought we were the better team for much of the game. You'd have to question the free count. Dunloy got 14 scorable frees, we got 5. We gave away 3 points from short passing errors and Dunloy had 4 frees moved forward 10 yards and scored them all. Never the less pleased with the display of a lot of our players. Dunloy now very much favorites for the championship having beaten ourselves and loughgiel.
I see dunloy didn't start woody and nigel ? with the dal as good as full out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 09:08:04 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 21, 2018, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 07:53:09 AM
You give a away more frees in a scoreable position so that's maybe the reason for the free count? And lads slandering to the be ref and he moves it forward, well that's just indiscipline, a word with the players would reduce that surely?

And if you were the better team but gave up three easy scores by short passing errors then that doesn't sound like the best team

To only be up two points with a strong wind behind you at half time seems to be one reason you lost, and you converted a penalty also so the ref did give yas something..

League game won't tell us who'll win championship, but fair play to both teams playing so soon after the county players were playing the day before

Where you at the game?

Read a very good match report from the Saffron Gael.. his view differ from yours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on May 21, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
As i thought.

I try to keep my views to myself, particularly if i wasn't at the game.

The refereeing was exactly what i expected so ill keep my views on that to myself also.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2018, 09:44:36 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 07:14:15 AM
Disappointed to have lost to Dunloy. Thought we were the better team for much of the game. You'd have to question the free count. Dunloy got 14 scorable frees, we got 5. We gave away 3 points from short passing errors and Dunloy had 4 frees moved forward 10 yards and scored them all. Never the less pleased with the display of a lot of our players. Dunloy now very much favorites for the championship having beaten ourselves and loughgiel.

You will find the other team will get more frees if your discipline is shocking.
Dall where intent on making some sort of statement but some of it bordered on thuggery. M o Neil moved some balls for you guys to when dunloy players where mouthing. How can you complain about the ReF when he fell for a Mc Manus special inside the square. Never a penalty, all in all the decisions balanced out and dunloy deserved the win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 21, 2018, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 07:14:15 AM
Disappointed to have lost to Dunloy. Thought we were the better team for much of the game. You'd have to question the free count. Dunloy got 14 scorable frees, we got 5. We gave away 3 points from short passing errors and Dunloy had 4 frees moved forward 10 yards and scored them all. Never the less pleased with the display of a lot of our players. Dunloy now very much favorites for the championship having beaten ourselves and loughgiel.

Def, ive my months wages on us now at 4/1 which is behind yourselves and Lgiel in the betting lol

Was a decent game and nice to come to Cdall and win a game. Its been a while since we have won on your ground so its good to get a win at a tough venue.

Fair play to lads playing two games in a row as well on Sat and Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: Megaman on May 21, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
As i thought.

I try to keep my views to myself, particularly if i wasn't at the game.

The refereeing was exactly what i expected so ill keep my views on that to myself also.  ;)

Ah, right then, no point in reading match reports, the lads are wasting their time then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 11:03:43 AM
MR2 as paranoid as usual. According to him anyone in a black shirt can do no wrong. The report on the saffron Gael page was written by a Dunloy man. NAH it was a physical game and there were poor tackles from both teams and when the ruckus started players from both teams were swinging digs. It happens some times, don't get yer nickers in a twist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2018, 11:14:26 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 11:03:43 AM
MR2 as paranoid as usual. According to him anyone in a black shirt can do no wrong. The report on the saffron Gael page was written by a Dunloy man. NAH it was a physical game and there were poor tackles from both teams and when the ruckus started players from both teams were swinging digs. It happens some times, don't get yer nickers in a twist.

Not at all, but its comical that when a team loses a game the finger wagging at ref's (from the losing team) becomes the focus of the match.. I'm sure if you are honest with yourself that the game was won and lost by the players on the pitch and the calls made by the management..

I've played and managed enough games to know the difference.. I asked the questions, there were question marks behind my first 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 21, 2018, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on May 21, 2018, 11:03:43 AM
MR2 as paranoid as usual. According to him anyone in a black shirt can do no wrong. The report on the saffron Gael page was written by a Dunloy man. NAH it was a physical game and there were poor tackles from both teams and when the ruckus started players from both teams were swinging digs. It happens some times, don't get yer nickers in a twist.

Imm ok
This discussion board isn't the place to bring up some of the things a lot of our forwards where subjected to off the ball. Some of our forwards are kids in senior terms. Come championship when the Ref has umpires that stuff will disappear. Thought your manager let himself down by arguing stone cold frees,  It's up to him to Instill some discipline.
On balance that was a hard game to Ref and O Neil did fine
For what it's worth there isn't much in those two teams and when you consider cushendall had more players on for Antrim the day before I think the Dall are still the team come championship, sure the bookies know the score.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 21, 2018, 02:50:48 PM
Sure it wouldn't be like MR2 to be controversial on here 😂  the age old problem of "if you believe everything you read .....". There's always 3 sides.  Really sorry I missed the match now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red

Its a red card, if seen by the ref
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 22, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red

Its a red card, if seen by the ref

There's your problem! Thats very rarely seen by the people that matter unfortunately. It's very easy to say "I didn't see it"  If seen it most definitely isn't a yellow! IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 22, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 22, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red

Its a red card, if seen by the ref

There's your problem! Thats very rarely seen by the people that matter unfortunately. It's very easy to say "I didn't see it"  If seen it most definitely isn't a yellow! IMO

But how can a ref see through a ruck of players to see it happen?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 22, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 22, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red

Its a red card, if seen by the ref

There's your problem! Thats very rarely seen by the people that matter unfortunately. It's very easy to say "I didn't see it"  If seen it most definitely isn't a yellow! IMO

But how can a ref see through a ruck of players to see it happen?
Austin Gleason would be the man to ask
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 22, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on May 22, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
is the pulling of a faceguard a yellow or red card offence? I have noticed this year in club games it has been given as a yellow card offence however in intercounty games in previous years it has been a straight red

Its a red card, if seen by the ref

There's your problem! Thats very rarely seen by the people that matter unfortunately. It's very easy to say "I didn't see it"  If seen it most definitely isn't a yellow! IMO

The ref can only call it if he sees it.. having umpires is best..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on May 23, 2018, 04:44:03 PM
Hurling tonight postponed due to the Joe McDonagh cup. In my opinion it has done nothing for club hurling at all. To be now entering June and have 4 club senior matches is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 23, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
I'd say that was a request from county management but I'd be fairly sure the CCC would rather see them played rather than stack it for the end of the season. Thankfully ours was played. Club life must go on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2018, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 23, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
I'd say that was a request from county management but I'd be fairly sure the CCC would rather see them played rather than stack it for the end of the season. Thankfully ours was played. Club life must go on.

I think the clubs need to start to look to the 95% of their squads who are not with the county panel. That should be the club's priority.
The league is there to give these lads games, so what if you dont win the league who cares. IMO the league is a great chance to find out how deep your squad actually is and if those fringe players are up to coming on in the bigger games later in the year.

Granted some clubs have more players than others with the county squad and this can disadvantage but maybe time to look at the greater good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2018, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 23, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
I'd say that was a request from county management but I'd be fairly sure the CCC would rather see them played rather than stack it for the end of the season. Thankfully ours was played. Club life must go on.

I think the clubs need to start to look to the 95% of their squads who are not with the county panel. That should be the club's priority.
The league is there to give these lads games, so what if you dont win the league who cares. IMO the league is a great chance to find out how deep your squad actually is and if those fringe players are up to coming on in the bigger games later in the year.

Granted some clubs have more players than others with the county squad and this can disadvantage but maybe time to look at the greater good.

Yes and if you have a squad big enough then its a brilliant chance, but if your are in a tight league and fighting for survival from the first match of the year (a team just coming up a league) then its tough to go without county players, the likes of yourselves can pull a win or 3 out of the bag later on in the year when needed to stay up mid to high table, when Antrim are out of Championship..

Playoffs are probably best in the case.... play all the league games and if the county say no county players at certain times thats fine, it means when Antrim are out you still have a chance to win the league if you are in the top four or stay up in the league if you are in the bottom four!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 24, 2018, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 24, 2018, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Last Man on May 23, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
I'd say that was a request from county management but I'd be fairly sure the CCC would rather see them played rather than stack it for the end of the season. Thankfully ours was played. Club life must go on.

I think the clubs need to start to look to the 95% of their squads who are not with the county panel. That should be the club's priority.
The league is there to give these lads games, so what if you dont win the league who cares. IMO the league is a great chance to find out how deep your squad actually is and if those fringe players are up to coming on in the bigger games later in the year.

Granted some clubs have more players than others with the county squad and this can disadvantage but maybe time to look at the greater good.

Yes and if you have a squad big enough then its a brilliant chance, but if your are in a tight league and fighting for survival from the first match of the year (a team just coming up a league) then its tough to go without county players, the likes of yourselves can pull a win or 3 out of the bag later on in the year when needed to stay up mid to high table, when Antrim are out of Championship..

Playoffs are probably best in the case.... play all the league games and if the county say no county players at certain times thats fine, it means when Antrim are out you still have a chance to win the league if you are in the top four or stay up in the league if you are in the bottom four!

Yeah there are certain ways of making it work, like play offs etc

But this bit of pulling matches over the head of 5/6 lads when there are 30/35 others then sitting kicking their heels on a night like last night.

It has to change.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 24, 2018, 09:36:54 AM
Ourselves and Rossa played last night in the league. Finished 1-19 to 0-13 to ourselves and it was a good entertaining game. Rossa were up at half time and well worth their lead in the game as well but our lads dug in the second half to get the win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2018, 09:50:34 AM
I can see two sides to the club county thing, yes you want your best players available, but a competive league will only bring players on more and maybe unearth another potential county player for the future.. striking that balance is the hardest part and god knows over the years it been done, looking at other models from other counties dosent always work, its finding one that suits Antrim and the our set up...

Having a good crowd at the games is important also, generates gate money for the club and spin offs from having a shop and a pint afterwards is also good revenue for clubs..

I did the Ports v Galgets' derby last night and the banter from the supporters makes for a good game, but even those teams are playing without fully fit/absent players due to the Christy ring competitions so its hard to gauge how well teams are going at this stage and that may also reduce the numbers at the games as 'not everyone was playing' so why bother?

but this arguement/debate has been going on for a long time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 28, 2018, 10:22:54 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 28, 2018, 08:59:58 AM
Minors beaten well by Offaly, U21s beaten by Carlow. I'm glad we are in these competitions for it can only improve us long term. Is it time for clubs to do more? Are we producing enough quality players?
Clubs are trying I believe but we are lacking a solid strategy to develop coaching standards and knowledge particularly in coaches who do not have the luxury of being an ex player. The whole idea of our development squads and how they operate needs overhauled again, too much talk about talent ID and elite players. We have some very talented players but for me as a spectator they lack the mentality to succeed when the screw is tightened. Might this be in some small way down to us putting some young players on a pedestal at an early age, defining them and possibly hampering their development into young adulthood, I don't know but there is a missing link if someone could just identify it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on May 28, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
We have young hurlers very competent in all these areas yet can barely win a game outside Ulster come 17/18. There's a bit more to it than explayer/ready made coaches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 28, 2018, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 28, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
We have young hurlers very competent in all these areas yet can barely win a game outside Ulster come 17/18. There's a bit more to it than explayer/ready made coaches.

As a county, both at inter-county and club level, we seem to have a very poor track record when it comes to extra time. The only notable exceptions I can think off is Loughgiel's performances in the club semis against Na Piarsaigh and St Thomas'. Off the top of my head, I cant think of any others (though I stand to be corrected).

IMHO that is as much to do with mental as physical fitness - if not more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2018, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 28, 2018, 05:46:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on May 28, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
We have young hurlers very competent in all these areas yet can barely win a game outside Ulster come 17/18. There's a bit more to it than explayer/ready made coaches.

As a county, both at inter-county and club level, we seem to have a very poor track record when it comes to extra time. The only notable exceptions I can think off is Loughgiel's performances in the club semis against Na Piarsaigh and St Thomas'. Off the top of my head, I cant think of any others (though I stand to be corrected).

IMHO that is as much to do with mental as physical fitness - if not more.

Us against Cavan Gaels and Corrifn in The same year/season  I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 31, 2018, 10:15:31 AM
No word about the team for the weekend? Going to be a very tough away trip and the win will be needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on May 31, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 31, 2018, 10:15:31 AM
No word about the team for the weekend? Going to be a very tough away trip and the win will be needed.

Whoever wins should likely reach the final. Both finalists are into All Ireland preliminary Quarter Finals this year. Winner v 3rd in Munster and runner up v 3rd in Leinster (which at present could well be Kilkenny).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 02, 2018, 09:14:25 AM
No team news?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 02, 2018, 12:05:03 PM
Westmeath U14s playing Antrim U14s in Robinstown today in mullingar at 1pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 02, 2018, 04:54:31 PM
Good fightback in second half but not enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 02, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
Hard luck lads. Beaten by 2 by Westmeath and by 1 by Laois.
A very impressive effort today 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 03, 2018, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
Hard luck lads. Beaten by 2 by Westmeath and by 1 by Laois.
A very impressive effort today

Impressive isn't the word I wd have used - unfortunately. Too many not up to the task on the day.  First half wasn't good at all and yes 2nd half was a bit better but fell short.  Nigel, Clarky and Johnty never looked at it for whatever reason.  Always said they rely too heavily on McManus and that came at a price yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2018, 10:02:03 AM
Think the only hope is really that WM would prefer to play Antrim in the final and they go out to knock Carlow out.

Disappointing result at the weekend again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 08, 2018, 01:04:40 PM
Antrim Team v Kerry

1. RYAN Elliott.
2. Arron Graffin. 
3. John Dillon.   
4. Conor McKinley. (Capt).
5. Paddy Burke.
6. Simon McCrory.
7. David Kearney. 
8. Keelan Molloy
9. Eoghan Campbell   
10. Donal McKinley. 
11. Neil McManus
12. Nigel Elliott.
13. Conor Johnston.
14. Conor McCann. 
15. Ciaran Clarke
16. James McMullan
17. Matthew Donnelly. 
18. Neil McAuley   
19. Stephen Rooney.
20. James McNaughton
21. Conor Carson. 
22. RYAN McCambridge.
23. Gérard Walsh. 
24. Daniel McCloskey. 
25. Eddie McCloskey.
26. Eoin O'Neill. 
27. Conor Boyd. 
28. Conor McHugh. 
29. Tommy Burns   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on June 08, 2018, 01:17:51 PM
Molloy seems to be a breath of fresh air brilliant hurler with piles of speed I thought he would have been to light but seems to have proven me wrong. I believe Gérard Walsh is worth his place on that team however
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 08, 2018, 02:38:07 PM
James and Eddie loosing out to Keelan and Donal.  To be honest a lot of changes could have been made.  I would only hope that Aaron does a bit better than last week because he was very poor by his standards. I thought his striking was poor. IMO     As for staying with the Nigel, Clarkey and Johnty, lets hope they perform. We cant afford to only play for half a match although if we cant beat Kerry ??    its the other match that really matters - Carlow -  Its all or nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 08, 2018, 04:13:45 PM
Michael Ryan has said they are going out to beat Carlow - I hope he's true to his word.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
Westmeath starting to do the business now but unfortunately we are not!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2018, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
Westmeath starting to do the business now but unfortunately we are not!

Carlow well ahead now

Fairly disastrous campaign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2018, 04:42:13 PM
I wouldn't go that far. Couple of very close games that could have went either way.

It's pretty much reflective of where we are though we really need to win the relegation playoff now. Relegation would be a disaster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 09, 2018, 04:42:47 PM
All time low for Antrim    Disaster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 09, 2018, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2018, 04:42:13 PM
I wouldn't go that far. Couple of very close games that could have went either way.

It's pretty much reflective of where we are though we really need to win the relegation playoff now. Relegation would be a disaster.

What points do you get for very close games ? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2018, 04:51:26 PM
Relegation play off ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2018, 04:55:00 PM
How is this an all time low?

If westmeath, laois and kerry had hammered us out the gate it would be close to an all time low.

We started this campaign knowing every game was touch and go. We won two and weren't that far away in the others. We haven't a god given right to beat these teams.

I read we are in a playoff with christy ring winners.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 09, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
I don't think even the most pessimistic of us saw us in a relegation playoff at the start of it, especially with 3 games at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 09, 2018, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 09, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
I don't think even the most pessimistic of us saw us in a relegation playoff at the start of it, especially with 3 games at home

I wd totally agree but yet here we are.  Apart from promotion in the league last year there has been very little to be happy about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: hurlingstick on June 09, 2018, 06:57:35 PM
Our 1st 20 minutes today was incredible. Intensity, skill, tackling, running and scoring left us deservedly 9 points up. I'm still scratching my head and trying to figure out how it went so wrong. How did we go in at half time only 1 point up?

Why was Nigel Elliott taken off at half time? If it was anything other than an injury then I'm stunned.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 09, 2018, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on June 09, 2018, 06:57:35 PM
Our 1st 20 minutes today was incredible. Intensity, skill, tackling, running and scoring left us deservedly 9 points up. I'm still scratching my head and trying to figure out how it went so wrong. How did we go in at half time only 1 point up?

Why was Nigel Elliott taken off at half time? If it was anything other than an injury then I'm stunned.

Nigel may we'll have been the easy option.  To be honest he wasn't at the races last week at all but neither were the other forwards.  But if u can understand the decisions that the management have made at different times over this year then you'll be doing well. I said it before if it wasn't for MCManus I hate to think what the score would have been today. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 10, 2018, 02:33:41 AM
Anyone know anything about a venue for the relegation playoff? Will it be at a neutral venue or will either ourselves or the Christy Ring winners have home advantage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
The way Antrim are hurling at present the Christy Ring is their level and I wouldnt be surprised if they lost a play off against the Christy Ring winners.

If Carlow had have came to Belfast to actually hurl instead of dishing out physical violence, they would have beaten Antrim out the gate.

Westmeath have 14 hurling clubs (a much lesser pick than Antrim) and with an astute manager in Michael Ryan they are playing brilliant hurling. Carlow and probably Kerry would be in the same boat.

While Antrim are more than capable of playing excellent hurling with plenty of very good hurlers (eg. the second half v Westmeath, first half v Kerry) it would appear there are no tactics or gameplan, The amount of aimless clearances out of defence that landed into a Westmeath paw last week must have been at least 70% and yesterday wasnt much better.

Antrim on a county level have been on a steady slide to hurling oblivion since the county board in their wisdom decided to appoint Jerry Wallace over Dinny Cahill, who had Antrim punching well above their weight especially when you think of the performances against Tipp, Wexford and Dublin. We were ahead of Carlow, Laois and Westmeath at that time. I remember saying at the time that Antrim would regret getting rid of Dinny and unfortunately that has been the case.

The present management team really have to go. 2 of them failed the previous time and a 4 man management team dosent work.

It is time for the county board to get their heads out of their hole and cop on that club hurling in Antrim is on life support, especially at lower levels. A hurling county with ONE hurling development officer does not cut it. We would need at least 4 or 5 more at least.

Saffron Vision my hole.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 10, 2018, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
The way Antrim are hurling at present the Christy Ring is their level and I wouldnt be surprised if they lost a play off against the Christy Ring winners.

If Carlow had have came to Belfast to actually hurl instead of dishing out physical violence, they would have beaten Antrim out the gate.

Westmeath have 14 hurling clubs (a much lesser pick than Antrim) and with an astute manager in Michael Ryan they are playing brilliant hurling. Carlow and probably Kerry would be in the same boat.

While Antrim are more than capable of playing excellent hurling with plenty of very good hurlers (eg. the second half v Westmeath, first half v Kerry) it would appear there are no tactics or gameplan, The amount of aimless clearances out of defence that landed into a Westmeath paw last week must have been at least 70% and yesterday wasnt much better.

Antrim on a county level have been on a steady slide to hurling oblivion since the county board in their wisdom decided to appoint Jerry Wallace over Dinny Cahill, who had Antrim punching well above their weight especially when you think of the performances against Tipp, Wexford and Dublin. We were ahead of Carlow, Laois and Westmeath at that time. I remember saying at the time that Antrim would regret getting rid of Dinny and unfortunately that has been the case.

The present management team really have to go. 2 of them failed the previous time and a 4 man management team dosent work.

It is time for the county board to get their heads out of their hole and cop on that club hurling in Antrim is on life support, especially at lower levels. A hurling county with ONE hurling development officer does not cut it. We would need at least 4 or 5 more at least.

Saffron Vision my hole.

I couldn't agree more. Being a good hurler and gaining an All Star most certainly does not make you a good manager and this has been proven over the last few years.  IMO The "management team" Did not have the man Management skills that were required. unfortunately.  They "or really Sambo" because let's be honest he called most of the shots made a lot of strange decisions that lead to defeats and none more so than bringing Griffin back last year for the Christy ring final and snubbed players that had knocked their pan in for the pre-season and everything else.  Was it 3 Christy Ring finals lost?  How do u get players up for a relegation play off and with another few going from the panel to America what's are chances ? Antrim hurling is very low at the minute   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 10, 2018, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
The way Antrim are hurling at present the Christy Ring is their level and I wouldnt be surprised if they lost a play off against the Christy Ring winners.

If Carlow had have came to Belfast to actually hurl instead of dishing out physical violence, they would have beaten Antrim out the gate.

Westmeath have 14 hurling clubs (a much lesser pick than Antrim) and with an astute manager in Michael Ryan they are playing brilliant hurling. Carlow and probably Kerry would be in the same boat.

While Antrim are more than capable of playing excellent hurling with plenty of very good hurlers (eg. the second half v Westmeath, first half v Kerry) it would appear there are no tactics or gameplan, The amount of aimless clearances out of defence that landed into a Westmeath paw last week must have been at least 70% and yesterday wasnt much better.

Antrim on a county level have been on a steady slide to hurling oblivion since the county board in their wisdom decided to appoint Jerry Wallace over Dinny Cahill, who had Antrim punching well above their weight especially when you think of the performances against Tipp, Wexford and Dublin. We were ahead of Carlow, Laois and Westmeath at that time. I remember saying at the time that Antrim would regret getting rid of Dinny and unfortunately that has been the case.

The present management team really have to go. 2 of them failed the previous time and a 4 man management team dosent work.

It is time for the county board to get their heads out of their hole and cop on that club hurling in Antrim is on life support, especially at lower levels. A hurling county with ONE hurling development officer does not cut it. We would need at least 4 or 5 more at least.

Saffron Vision my hole.

Best post on here for weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 10, 2018, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 10, 2018, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2018, 09:48:15 AM
The way Antrim are hurling at present the Christy Ring is their level and I wouldnt be surprised if they lost a play off against the Christy Ring winners.

If Carlow had have came to Belfast to actually hurl instead of dishing out physical violence, they would have beaten Antrim out the gate.

Westmeath have 14 hurling clubs (a much lesser pick than Antrim) and with an astute manager in Michael Ryan they are playing brilliant hurling. Carlow and probably Kerry would be in the same boat.

While Antrim are more than capable of playing excellent hurling with plenty of very good hurlers (eg. the second half v Westmeath, first half v Kerry) it would appear there are no tactics or gameplan, The amount of aimless clearances out of defence that landed into a Westmeath paw last week must have been at least 70% and yesterday wasnt much better.

Antrim on a county level have been on a steady slide to hurling oblivion since the county board in their wisdom decided to appoint Jerry Wallace over Dinny Cahill, who had Antrim punching well above their weight especially when you think of the performances against Tipp, Wexford and Dublin. We were ahead of Carlow, Laois and Westmeath at that time. I remember saying at the time that Antrim would regret getting rid of Dinny and unfortunately that has been the case.

The present management team really have to go. 2 of them failed the previous time and a 4 man management team dosent work.

It is time for the county board to get their heads out of their hole and cop on that club hurling in Antrim is on life support, especially at lower levels. A hurling county with ONE hurling development officer does not cut it. We would need at least 4 or 5 more at least.

Saffron Vision my hole.

Best post on here for weeks

Months
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on June 10, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
Did sambo and the others not take on the county job because no one else wanted it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Some of this stuff i would agree with but one thing i would say is mcmanus has kept us in games and when the going gets tough others need to stand up. A manager can not make a player do that.

I do not think we have the players some people think we have.

I would agree on distribution but do that has been an issue for years. I often wonder is the amount of ball we lose in the forwards due to bad quality of ball in or do we just not have ball winning forwards. Maybe a bit of both.

Yeah ardtole i am not sure anyone else wanted the job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
I would agree with this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
The competition is were we are at, that level is very competitive and can only bring us on... I wasnt at the match so cant comment on it but was following on twitter as I was in Galway with the club, but the updates seemed to be very good until I checked at halftime!

9 points up was my last check and then only a point up, how did we let that slip? from there on in it was a battle by all accounts and we'd leveled it late on only for Kerry to tag on 3 points without reply..

We don't have big fit players, you can have your small speedy forwards or even small'ish corner backs but your Fullback all of your half back line and 3/4 line need to be bigger units, to win primary ball, not trying to pick up the scraps if the ball drops..

We need to develop better players NMcM can't do it all, more players need to step up to the plate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 11, 2018, 12:26:43 PM
Being a successful county team is normally a RESULT of a very strong and vibrant club scene. We put too much emphasis on county rather than clubs IMO. Cart before the horse. 1% of the playing population dictating to 99% of the playing population. It needs to stop.

Time for radical change. Forget about Joe McDonagh, Christy Ring et al until we get our club game in the right place. Fulfil the fixtures but lets not get too wound up until we get the foundations right. If we can't get someone to take the county team then pull out of the competitions all together for all I care. County team performance is not as important as getting our club game in order.

The same is paramount for underage. Abandon development squads that again only look after the 1% and ignore the 99%. Lets get more coaches on the ground with the kids and encourage participation rather than creating this elitist model that has a negative effect on those who aren't involved in it.

I have to agree with a previous poster. Saffron vision have a different approach to a lot of our issues in this county but none to this problem. Same old story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 13, 2018, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
The competition is were we are at, that level is very competitive and can only bring us on... I wasnt at the match so cant comment on it but was following on twitter as I was in Galway with the club, but the updates seemed to be very good until I checked at halftime!

9 points up was my last check and then only a point up, how did we let that slip? from there on in it was a battle by all accounts and we'd leveled it late on only for Kerry to tag on 3 points without reply..

We don't have big fit players, you can have your small speedy forwards or even small'ish corner backs but your Fullback all of your half back line and 3/4 line need to be bigger units, to win primary ball, not trying to pick up the scraps if the ball drops..

We need to develop better players NMcM can't do it all, more players need to step up to the plate
Yep. Way too reliant on him - he must be 30/31 now and won't be around forever so fills the gap when he isn't around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
Our club game will develop alot in next few years. A strong dunloy will, longer term, help. Realistically it has been cushendall loughgiel for quite a while until last year. Rossa are starting to show signs of wakening too, though armstrong's injury a big blow, so hopefully that will help.

Mcmanus is ploughing a lone furrow a lot so hopefully some of the younger boys will start shaping up with experience and more physical strength.

None of this will magically happen though and depends on clubs. St johns and ballycastle stepping up would help a lot.

It would be good to get the ulster club back and if we want to push on the experience the ai club gives to players is something which would be a massive help.

I don't think these managers have underachieved. Where we are is about right for the players we currently have. In addition I don't think we would have a queue for managers anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 15, 2018, 10:14:33 AM
i think too many people are concentrating on the negatives rather than taking the positives and building on them.

a few years ago we would of been tanked by Galway, Dublin etc in the league. Now we are moaning about narrow defeats to teams like this? to be honest i think we have made good progress in the league and the Joe McDonagh Cup. yes we had 3 disappointing defeats but the teams we lost to would of been disappointed to lose to us as well!

thats the flip side to this. we are not in a position to be assuming that losing to teams the same level as ourselves is a low or a failure of some sort.

off the pitch SV has now got antrim into a good financial state and they are bringing in money and investment to the background, on the pitch it will take the same time to get it right as well. its time to show a bit of faith in people who want the job and have a passion for the county rather than just look for a scapegoat each time it doesn't work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 15, 2018, 10:16:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 15, 2018, 10:14:33 AM
i think too many people are concentrating on the negatives rather than taking the positives and building on them.

a few years ago we would of been tanked by Galway, Dublin etc in the league. Now we are moaning about narrow defeats to teams like this? to be honest i think we have made good progress in the league and the Joe McDonagh Cup. yes we had 3 disappointing defeats but the teams we lost to would of been disappointed to lose to us as well!

thats the flip side to this. we are not in a position to be assuming that losing to teams the same level as ourselves is a low or a failure of some sort.

off the pitch SV has now got antrim into a good financial state and they are bringing in money and investment to the background, on the pitch it will take the same time to get it right as well. its time to show a bit of faith in people who want the job and have a passion for the county rather than just look for a scapegoat each time it doesn't work.

I've said it before and I'l say it again, you're never far off the mark at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 16, 2018, 08:08:29 PM
With the talk before even the Kerry game of the current management looking to move on has this been clarified and if so any rumours doing the rounds of what next?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 08:13:02 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 15, 2018, 10:16:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 15, 2018, 10:14:33 AM
i think too many people are concentrating on the negatives rather than taking the positives and building on them.

a few years ago we would of been tanked by Galway, Dublin etc in the league. Now we are moaning about narrow defeats to teams like this? to be honest i think we have made good progress in the league and the Joe McDonagh Cup. yes we had 3 disappointing defeats but the teams we lost to would of been disappointed to lose to us as well!

thats the flip side to this. we are not in a position to be assuming that losing to teams the same level as ourselves is a low or a failure of some sort.

off the pitch SV has now got antrim into a good financial state and they are bringing in money and investment to the background, on the pitch it will take the same time to get it right as well. its time to show a bit of faith in people who want the job and have a passion for the county rather than just look for a scapegoat each time it doesn't work.

I've said it before and I'l say it again, you're never far off the mark at all.
Agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 17, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
I certainly don't share that optimism, County seniors struggled in both Div 1B and the Joe McDonagh, the key players are over 30 and no obvious replacements lined up.  U21's beat by Kildare and minors thumped by Dublin.

Senior club fixtures are a shambles, nowhere near enough games on a regular enough basis to really engage the local community.  Club players are training circa 140 times now for 14 league matches and maybe 4 games between feis and championship! Barring Rossa's fully deserved championship victory in 2004 we've seen the title shared by just 3 clubs over nearly 3 decades and we've now witnessed the Ulster Club Championship reside outside Antrim for 2 consecutive years.

If we are looking to our under safe structures for inspiration we are going to be sadly lacking, apathy has seen the collapse of the excellent North Antrim festival of hurling, under age players in Antrim can expect circa 12 games a year! Soccer teams get triple this, they can almost virtually guarantee the schedule despite it being a winter sport.

Every club has good men working in isolation but we need to admit we have problems, I am convinced participation levels are dropping or at best have hit a plateau.

How would I solve the problems
1. Paid development officer should as a priority focus on fixtures and support for clubs. 
2. Guarantee each team 25 games, switch the balance from 80/20 training games to 50/50
3. Structured, promoted adult leagues
4. Divisional boards to have a unified approach to age grading and fixture schedules to addresss the ludicrious situation where players have to choose football or hurling at u8's!!!
5. These underage blitzes to be reviewed, all of them, football, hurling and camogie are on Sun resulting in clashes
6. Astronomical amount of games called off due to waterlogged pitches, with the amount of money washing through the GAA now it would be a massive investment in infrastructure if they built a number of 3G pitches around the county available for games
7. Clubs to take responsibility for the improvement in skill standards and to be given the opportunity to do this.
8. Schools to be supported but only with the  involvement of the local clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on June 17, 2018, 10:01:49 PM
Totally agree with all of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 18, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 17, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
I certainly don't share that optimism, County seniors struggled in both Div 1B and the Joe McDonagh, the key players are over 30 and no obvious replacements lined up.  U21's beat by Kildare and minors thumped by Dublin.

Senior club fixtures are a shambles, nowhere near enough games on a regular enough basis to really engage the local community.  Club players are training circa 140 times now for 14 league matches and maybe 4 games between feis and championship! Barring Rossa's fully deserved championship victory in 2004 we've seen the title shared by just 3 clubs over nearly 3 decades and we've now witnessed the Ulster Club Championship reside outside Antrim for 2 consecutive years.

If we are looking to our under safe structures for inspiration we are going to be sadly lacking, apathy has seen the collapse of the excellent North Antrim festival of hurling, under age players in Antrim can expect circa 12 games a year! Soccer teams get triple this, they can almost virtually guarantee the schedule despite it being a winter sport.

Every club has good men working in isolation but we need to admit we have problems, I am convinced participation levels are dropping or at best have hit a plateau.

How would I solve the problems
1. Paid development officer should as a priority focus on fixtures and support for clubs. 
2. Guarantee each team 25 games, switch the balance from 80/20 training games to 50/50
3. Structured, promoted adult leagues
4. Divisional boards to have a unified approach to age grading and fixture schedules to addresss the ludicrious situation where players have to choose football or hurling at u8's!!!
5. These underage blitzes to be reviewed, all of them, football, hurling and camogie are on Sun resulting in clashes
6. Astronomical amount of games called off due to waterlogged pitches, with the amount of money washing through the GAA now it would be a massive investment in infrastructure if they built a number of 3G pitches around the county available for games
7. Clubs to take responsibility for the improvement in skill standards and to be given the opportunity to do this.
8. Schools to be supported but only with the  involvement of the local clubs

Excellent post. I also feel strongly about this, we don't get enough regular (I mean weekly, not 3 in one week and none for 3 weeks!) games. Soccer and rugby are years ahead in this regard and we are seeing the draw from GAA towards theses sports. Players want to play games, not endless training sessions from January. It is upto the county board/CCCC (i.e. someone at the highest level in Antrim GAA) to make this radical change. Forget about interocunty being priority no.1 in Antrim, lets put the club at the centre of everything we do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

::)
(http://www.rockler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Pencil-Leash.jpg)

It nearly ran out of lead by the end of the game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2018, 12:42:24 AM
 :D Seems like a busy second half!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on June 19, 2018, 08:29:36 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 17, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
I certainly don't share that optimism, County seniors struggled in both Div 1B and the Joe McDonagh, the key players are over 30 and no obvious replacements lined up.  U21's beat by Kildare and minors thumped by Dublin.

Senior club fixtures are a shambles, nowhere near enough games on a regular enough basis to really engage the local community.  Club players are training circa 140 times now for 14 league matches and maybe 4 games between feis and championship! Barring Rossa's fully deserved championship victory in 2004 we've seen the title shared by just 3 clubs over nearly 3 decades and we've now witnessed the Ulster Club Championship reside outside Antrim for 2 consecutive years.

If we are looking to our under safe structures for inspiration we are going to be sadly lacking, apathy has seen the collapse of the excellent North Antrim festival of hurling, under age players in Antrim can expect circa 12 games a year! Soccer teams get triple this, they can almost virtually guarantee the schedule despite it being a winter sport.

Every club has good men working in isolation but we need to admit we have problems, I am convinced participation levels are dropping or at best have hit a plateau.

How would I solve the problems
1. Paid development officer should as a priority focus on fixtures and support for clubs. 
2. Guarantee each team 25 games, switch the balance from 80/20 training games to 50/50
3. Structured, promoted adult leagues
4. Divisional boards to have a unified approach to age grading and fixture schedules to addresss the ludicrious situation where players have to choose football or hurling at u8's!!!
5. These underage blitzes to be reviewed, all of them, football, hurling and camogie are on Sun resulting in clashes
6. Astronomical amount of games called off due to waterlogged pitches, with the amount of money washing through the GAA now it would be a massive investment in infrastructure if they built a number of 3G pitches around the county available for games
7. Clubs to take responsibility for the improvement in skill standards and to be given the opportunity to do this.
8. Schools to be supported but only with the  involvement of the local clubs

I agree with some of the stuff you say, but not all;
1. Fixtures are a focus for CCC, not a Development Officer. We don't have a full
Time Development Officer in our schools introducing the sport and strengthening school and club links in North or south west Antrim, and certainly not enough in Belfast; even with 5 new "dual" coaches coming in (whenever that may be). I think a Dev Officer should focus on introducing the sport to kids as young as 4/5/6, and getting them to our clubs. Then helping Clubs and giving them advice/resources as to how to coach, providing coach education and also helping grow the volunteer base.
2. Guarantee teams 25 games, yes I agree, but don't then ask county players to play that, before sending them back to their county training the next night knackered. I think starred games are something we could look at again. The 50:50 ratio isn't enough IMO, what about the player who plays 5 mins, or doesn't play at all? How can he develop once a week in a 60-80 min session? 2:1 ratio of training to games is fine, providing we are actually given the game!

6. 4G pitches are def something we need more of in North and South West Antrim, whilst I agree with you, the whole of Ireland suffer bad weather, so for the GAA to fire a load of money up to us without doing it all over Ireland is a bit far-fetched. I think It's something our saffron business forums should be looking to fundraise toward. Although 4G pitches aren't great of players bodies either!

7. I think your 7th point contradicts your 50:50 proposal. How can they have the opportunity to develop skill if they only get 1 session a week. The biggest difference for me is the fact that hurling is a way of life in the likes of Kilkenny. The hurl goes everywhere with them, primary schools promote it themselves too with in house ball wall competitions etc. We can't rely on hoping some paid Officer will do it for us, because they likely won't! I feel MOST Clubs don't do enough with their schools. Teachers being from outside the county doesn't lend its hand and the amount of work they have to do now means they have little time to help GAA teams.

I agree with your other points, there is a lot of work needs done to help Antrim grow, but I think far too many people still see Antrim as a top level team. We are not at that standard, we, as Clubs, have not produced the players to be at the top level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

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(http://www.rockler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Pencil-Leash.jpg)

It nearly ran out of lead by the end of the game!

In the Ballygalget Column it seems.........  ;)

How the Loughgeil column didn't feature a few reds as well we'll never know.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 19, 2018, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

::)
(http://www.rockler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Pencil-Leash.jpg)

It nearly ran out of lead by the end of the game!

In the Ballygalget Column it seems.........  ;)

How the Loughgeil column didn't feature a few reds as well we'll never know.

It was all one way, them ards boys couldn't take the beating..  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 19, 2018, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Hear a rough enough event down the Ards yesterday.. Tut tut!!
And the ref delayed the start of the second half as he left his pencil in the changing room. Amateur hour  ;)

::)
(http://www.rockler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Pencil-Leash.jpg)

It nearly ran out of lead by the end of the game!

In the Ballygalget Column it seems.........  ;)

How the Loughgeil column didn't feature a few reds as well we'll never know.

It was all one way, them ards boys couldn't take the beating..  ;)

We're well used to it at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 19, 2018, 10:30:36 AM
Hopefully you aren't doubting our refs..  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 19, 2018, 07:42:32 PM
Fall all the way the focus of my suggestions was on underage's as opposed to senior, though I would concede a starred type format would be better than no senior games.

At juvenile level I strongly believe the need 1 session 1 game for development, however the games should vary in rules, numbers a side etc.  Underage players will learn different facets of the game playing 7 a side v 15 a side (and all the variations in between). 

However organising a structured season the offers kids these opportunities is a difficult job, but it's a crucial job and requires an appreciation of the developmental value of games/blitzes with everyone playing.  Development officers are there for the development of the game, otherwise they would be coaches.  In my experience each club has good coaches but they need the opportunities and these are limited.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
Antrim V Kildare in the Athletic grounds on Saturday at 12.45 before the Armagh V Clare football qualifier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2018, 02:56:15 PM
Will we have a team to go?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 25, 2018, 03:11:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 25, 2018, 02:56:15 PM
Will we have a team to go?

Why wouldn't we? Have there been fall outs since the Kerry game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2018, 03:51:33 PM
Don't think any fall outs just know a few of the lads have gone traveling or are about too.
I am sure we will have a team though  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 28, 2018, 06:45:08 AM
Only 16 lads at training last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 28, 2018, 11:04:12 PM
The hurlers getting in on the act according the GPA statement.

Earlier this evening the Kildare and Antrim Senior Hurling Teams issued a statement expressing their unhappiness at the scheduling of the Joe McDonagh promotion/regelation play-off scheduled for Saturday the 30th of June 2018.
While this particular fixture was agreed as part of the wider GAA Master Fixture Plan released late in 2017, we understand the players frustration at the short turnaround time for Kildare in particular, having just won the Christy Ring cup, before Sunday's final and that it places too much strain on the players involved. Lessons must be learned from this for next year's competition.

The GAA must now review the competitions in the context of an overall review of the new competitions structure at the end of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 29, 2018, 08:51:55 AM
i seen this last night on twitter.

fair play to both camps for taking a joint stand on this. Its probably too late to do anything about it as this should of been highlighted at the start of the season but its good to see both camps standing together on this.

Total farce that the CR winners have to win another game to get into the JMcD cup
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 29, 2018, 09:09:29 AM
One up two down is just ridiculous. The way teams are promoted and relegated every year is just a complete lottery. Some years you have playoffs and some years you don't. Going between certain tiers you have a playoff, others you don't. It a complete farce. Time to organise a simple process if you finish bottom of your tier you get relegated, if you finish top you get promoted.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2018, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 29, 2018, 09:09:29 AM
One up two down is just ridiculous. The way teams are promoted and relegated every year is just a complete lottery. Some years you have playoffs and some years you don't. Going between certain tiers you have a playoff, others you don't. It a complete farce. Time to organise a simple process if you finish bottom of your tier you get relegated, if you finish top you get promoted.   
That is the plan. The issue is only this year as they want to reduce the amount of teams in the Joe McDonagh Cup.

Why?

5 teams leaves an odd number so any one week one team will have no game. With 6 teams there's an even number and all in will take the same number of weeks to play out the league format!

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2018, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2018, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on June 29, 2018, 09:09:29 AM
One up two down is just ridiculous. The way teams are promoted and relegated every year is just a complete lottery. Some years you have playoffs and some years you don't. Going between certain tiers you have a playoff, others you don't. It a complete farce. Time to organise a simple process if you finish bottom of your tier you get relegated, if you finish top you get promoted.   
That is the plan. The issue is only this year as they want to reduce the amount of teams in the Joe McDonagh Cup.

Why?

5 teams leaves an odd number so any one week one team will have no game. With 6 teams there's an even number and all in will take the same number of weeks to play out the league format!

Am I missing something?
No idea. It's not as if it didn't work this year.

That was my take on it as well!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Terrible news about John McCaughan from Cushendun.

God rest him, a hardy tight fecker on the pitch and gentleman off it.

Life is to short lads, enjoy it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on July 01, 2018, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Terrible news about John McCaughan from Cushendun.

God rest him, a hardy tight fecker on the pitch and gentleman off it.

Life is to short lads, enjoy it.
absolutely. RIP John.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 29, 2018, 10:25:40 PM
Terrible news about John McCaughan from Cushendun.

God rest him, a hardy tight fecker on the pitch and gentleman off it.

Life is to short lads, enjoy it.

Yeah he was a lovely fella RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 16, 2018, 09:12:58 AM
any of use go to the Feis final yday? i was there for the camogie final but left after it.

seen the U16 mcmullan cup final before it tho. was a cracker of a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 16, 2018, 01:12:30 PM
McMullan Cup and senior Feis were both cracking matches. Any time you do a double on Loughgiel you are going well. Still don't think anyone will touch Dunloy come Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 16, 2018, 02:07:32 PM
It'll take a very good team to beat Dunloy..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2018, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 16, 2018, 02:07:32 PM
It'll take a very good team to beat Dunloy..

Or their under21's! Going through the grades they are healthy, well done to all involved, doesn't happen by chance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 16, 2018, 07:43:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 16, 2018, 04:40:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 16, 2018, 02:07:32 PM
It'll take a very good team to beat Dunloy..

Or their under21's! Going through the grades they are healthy, well done to all involved, doesn't happen by chance

Yip totally agree. Foundations were set in place when the new academy was built and its reaping it rewards now. Are they the benchmark for youth development over the last few years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 17, 2018, 08:41:08 AM
its a mixture of the academy, good coaches at underage level and luck as well that they have all developed along so well. A building wont make kids play well and develop them into senior hurlers, footballers and camogiers, its the coaches they have and the parents who invest all the time into them.

I was well impressed with the U16 final as a neutral. Loughgiel to their credit gave it everything considering that was their 3rd match that week and could of won it but for some seriously good defending by Cushendall. Didnt get to see all of it as i was on the second pitch with the girls but what i seen it was a great game for a neutral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 17, 2018, 01:57:41 PM
Anyone know when Championship match dates are being released
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 17, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
I don't think Dunloys facilities have anything to do with it. They happened to have a lot of very talented players and excellent coaches. If the players don't have the natural talent and the coaches aren't up to scratch it wouldn't matter if they trained in an Olympic village.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 18, 2018, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 17, 2018, 04:10:00 PM
I don't think Dunloys facilities have anything to do with it. They happened to have a lot of very talented players and excellent coaches. If the players don't have the natural talent and the coaches aren't up to scratch it wouldn't matter if they trained in an Olympic village.

agree with this. The facility is wonderful and it gives us, and other clubs, the ability to train all year around. But its the coaches and the natural talent that gets them to that level in all 3 codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on July 18, 2018, 11:29:45 PM
I agree that you need 1) the right coaches, 2) the right type of player (with natural ability is a bonus)  but having 3) the facilities that Dunloy have make things so much easier. Full credit to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on July 20, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Couldnt make it to Creggan on Wednesday night to watch Carey so went to the Armoy and Randalstown game.

Do referees under go fitness tests? Dont think I have seen worse...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2018, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 20, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Couldnt make it to Creggan on Wednesday night to watch Carey so went to the Armoy and Randalstown game.

Do referees under go fitness tests? Dont think I have seen worse...
Be careful what you say. We know there is at least one very fit ref in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 20, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Couldnt make it to Creggan on Wednesday night to watch Carey so went to the Armoy and Randalstown game.

Do referees under go fitness tests? Dont think I have seen worse...

Sure if they aint fit then they are blind and if they are fit and can see then they are cheats! Ya couldnt make it up, new course starts after Xmas,  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 20, 2018, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

For once and only once. I'll agree with MR2.. The county is crying out for refs so all help would be greatly appreciated I'm sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 20, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
I've turned my hand to referring myself.  Always thought I could do a good job. But it's not that simple.  Some qualities that help a ref is being able to keep up with the play and being a hurler also.

If you were to implement the rules by the book the game would very quickly be a match of frees. The rules in hurling are mere guide lines per say and not supposed to be enforced every time. The trick is to make sure you give the players justice in the moment. Some times you can get lucky depending on the personality your dealing with.

Explaining to players why you made a decision is good for communication. I often tell players if they are getting too feisty the cards are coming out.

In most instances if you approach the game honestly try your best players appreciate that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 20, 2018, 07:34:15 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 20, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Couldnt make it to Creggan on Wednesday night to watch Carey so went to the Armoy and Randalstown game.

Do referees under go fitness tests? Dont think I have seen worse...

Sign up then & give it a lash. Some of us on here either did our bit, or are doing it. Not quite as easy when you're out in the middle as it looks when you're hanging over the fence. But, rather than sound off, contribute something.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games

I'm sure I could stand on the 65 for an hour, not much else to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2018, 06:02:44 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games

I'm sure I could stand on the 65 for an hour, not much else to it

Well then, put your name forward, I'll get ya through the beep test
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 22, 2018, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games

I'm sure I could stand on the 65 for an hour, not much else to it

Get your name down quick, then - sounds like you're so good, you're already in line for a county final this season, at least. I predict great things for you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on July 22, 2018, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games

I'm sure I could stand on the 65 for an hour, not much else to it

Get your name down quick, then - sounds like you're so good, you're already in line for a county final this season, at least. I predict great things for you.

That's not enough time to grow a stomach to my knees like some of the others.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 22, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Ya have to put up with that much crap during the game, you feckin need a drink afterwards. If you're really good, people post about your performance on here as well. Then you have really arrived!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 22, 2018, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on July 22, 2018, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: SillyAsFaugh on July 22, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 20, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 20, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
Do you not know the 11th commandment?

Though shalt not slag off referees in the vicinity of MR or you will face his wrath ;D

Coming on a public forum and questioning a man giving up his time and the mans fitness is not on, I don't know the poster that did, he hides behind the keyboard, he could probably do with a fitness test himself  ;D

But to answer it, yes beep test is mandatory and rules test pass required for championship games

I'm sure I could stand on the 65 for an hour, not much else to it

Get your name down quick, then - sounds like you're so good, you're already in line for a county final this season, at least. I predict great things for you.

That's not enough time to grow a stomach to my knees like some of the others.

Quit being a d**k.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 23, 2018, 08:58:50 AM
everyone likes to moan about refs, its the standard excuse for the short fallings in your own team! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on July 25, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
Dunloy v Cdall tonight an interesting game - sun shining might head to it; Be nice if both were near full strength

Shams travelling to Johnnies - Johnnies going well, could get a win ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Draw in johnnies loughgiel. Updates made it sound interresting.

I don't see a cushendall dunloy result? Portaferry hammered rossa who seem a bit off the pace at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on July 25, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Cushendall, dunloy ended in a draw. Dunloy must of had plenty of short comings today as there wa plenty of shouting at the ref  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 25, 2018, 10:48:26 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on July 25, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Cushendall, dunloy ended in a draw. Dunloy must of had plenty of short comings today as there wa plenty of shouting at the ref  ;)


And he listened to them aswell...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 26, 2018, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on July 25, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Cushendall, dunloy ended in a draw. Dunloy must of had plenty of short comings today as there wa plenty of shouting at the ref  ;)

No issue with the referee whatsoever, a lot of the shouting was to draw his attention to the serious amount of off the ball holding going on! Impossible for him to see it, but come championship that won't be an option for teams!

Decent game last night without really sparking into life, both teams will be unhappy not to win.  I'm sure the cushendall men will disagree but I thought in a game where defences dominated our forwards looked that bit more threatening and really should have scored a couple more goals.

St Johns going well this year, not unexpected, they have pushed both Dunloy and Cushendall all the way in recent championships and could be a real threat this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 26, 2018, 12:57:59 PM
no complaints about the ref at all last night. tough game and both physical teams not holding back and hard to see everything going on.

Poor enough performance from both sides shooting a lot of wides, esp at frees. Draw was prob a fair result at the end up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 26, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
"Off the ball holding..." Not a complaint you'd hear in Kilkenny or Tipperary very often.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 26, 2018, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 26, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
"Off the ball holding..." Not a complaint you'd hear in Kilkenny or Tipperary very often.

Your right
Grabbing other players hurls
Pulling jerseys and slapping seems to be the norm now
Niki Mc keauge would have needed a death certificate to get a free last night
Take a look at saffron Geal report main picture.
Come championship when the ref has more eyes to help him could be more free flowing than last nights slug fest

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 26, 2018, 10:12:24 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 26, 2018, 12:57:59 PM
no complaints about the ref at all last night. tough game and both physical teams not holding back and hard to see everything going on.

Poor enough performance from both sides shooting a lot of wides, esp at frees. Draw was prob a fair result at the end up.

Draw was a fair result. Plenty to work on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2018, 10:41:35 PM
I've played many many years at all levels, pulling, hauling and body checking has been going on for years! It seems people would prefer non contact sport..

Funny thing is players will mention 'that won't be a foul at Croke Park at the weekend'! Been a while since we've been to Croker at semi final weekend!

Wasn't a high scoring game, different styles on show, a clash of styles.. the good thing will be both teams should take something from it, a kick up the arse for Dunloy possibly? and a boost to Cushendall.. come championship the league game will be forgotten about should they meet..

How close were both teams to their best? I thought a couple on each side
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2018, 08:35:27 AM
Are the Johnnies the real deal this year and able to go toe to toe with the top three come championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
This Dall hurler likes a bit of pulling and dragging alright  8)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwVL01YTOY_PZ_F3BNUjDkLjhkUn2MSafzdhxbdh5CWUyRe3sZ)

Vogue Paris no less.

Can't buy that sort of advertisement exposure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on July 28, 2018, 10:35:59 AM
Poor Niki. 
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 26, 2018, 10:10:30 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on July 26, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
"Off the ball holding..." Not a complaint you'd hear in Kilkenny or Tipperary very often.

Your right
Grabbing other players hurls
Pulling jerseys and slapping seems to be the norm now
Niki Mc keauge would have needed a death certificate to get a free last night
Take a look at saffron Geal report main picture.
Come championship when the ref has more eyes to help him could be more free flowing than last nights slug fest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 31, 2018, 11:58:48 PM
St Johns are flying at the minute but they have a hard game versus a Ballycastle team who are also tipping along nicely before they even can think of challenging the big 3. I'd expect a very close game between the two and Ballycastle have the advantage of playing at home first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
They wouldn't be fans of the ref involved and maybe had a mini meltdown after losing 2 men but thankfully good sense prevailed. Div 2 has been poor this year after a reasonable start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
They wouldn't be fans of the ref involved and maybe had a mini meltdown after losing 2 men but thankfully good sense prevailed. Div 2 has been poor this year after a reasonable start.

I wouldn't be one for slagging refs off, but I think quite a few have issues with the ref involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
They wouldn't be fans of the ref involved and maybe had a mini meltdown after losing 2 men but thankfully good sense prevailed. Div 2 has been poor this year after a reasonable start.

I wouldn't be one for slagging refs off, but I think quite a few have issues with the ref involved.

He's not that bad if you cut him a bit of slack. Going head to head with him never ends well though. Soon as players get this the pitch will be a happier place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
They wouldn't be fans of the ref involved and maybe had a mini meltdown after losing 2 men but thankfully good sense prevailed. Div 2 has been poor this year after a reasonable start.

I wouldn't be one for slagging refs off, but I think quite a few have issues with the ref involved.

He's not that bad if you cut him a bit of slack. Going head to head with him never ends well though. Soon as players get this the pitch will be a happier place.

Personally speaking, I've never had any issues with him but from attending games as a neutral that he's reffed at, feedback isn't good.

Again, it's a horrible job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 02, 2018, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Last Man on August 02, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 02, 2018, 10:54:31 AM
Seemed an interesting few minutes in the Ossians V Tir na og game last!
They wouldn't be fans of the ref involved and maybe had a mini meltdown after losing 2 men but thankfully good sense prevailed. Div 2 has been poor this year after a reasonable start.

I wouldn't be one for slagging refs off, but I think quite a few have issues with the ref involved.

He's not that bad if you cut him a bit of slack. Going head to head with him never ends well though. Soon as players get this the pitch will be a happier place.

Personally speaking, I've never had any issues with him but from attending games as a neutral that he's reffed at, feedback isn't good.

Again, it's a horrible job.

It can be, then sometimes you're involved in a game which is epic! No referee goes out to have a bad game, neither does a player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 03, 2018, 12:57:12 AM
As the old saying goes, without them there's no game! As I've gotten bolder I've tended to say thank you to a referee after a win lose or draw. If I think they've had a good game I'll mention it. Sometimes the ref might think I'm taking the piss but I do be genuine, I think the older you get and have a family etc you realise these are people giving up their time for the game same as me. What hit home to me one tome was a referee getting dogs abuse for a whole game, reserve game nothing above the usual didn't know what he was doing etc. I didn't realise until after the game he had his young son with him who came to watch a game his father was involved in and listen to his da take abuse for an hour. That really hit home to me, no body else's son there had to see their father take 60 mins abuse. Was just a small thing but made me think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatwillbwillb on August 03, 2018, 06:14:38 AM
It has to be said though that lad brings a lot of it on himself to be fair, attitude stinks, his communication is poor and instead of controlling it he tends to mirror the situation... seen him at Ahoghill recently definitely not his best day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 03, 2018, 06:23:28 AM
Most referees do it for the love of the game. In fact it could be argued that to do their job shows a greater love than playing or coaching a team. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2018, 08:04:07 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 03, 2018, 06:23:28 AM
Most referees do it for the love of the game. In fact it could be argued that to do their job shows a greater love than playing or coaching a team. Fair play to them.

Most referees would do it for their club because if a club fails to provide a referee they forfeit all home games.

That was the only reason I did it and I really didnt enjoy it. The abuse you had to put up with..

I gave it up after I was attacked on the pitch by a spectator.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 03, 2018, 08:04:07 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 03, 2018, 06:23:28 AM
Most referees do it for the love of the game. In fact it could be argued that to do their job shows a greater love than playing or coaching a team. Fair play to them.

Most referees would do it for their club because if a club fails to provide a referee they forfeit all home games.

That was the only reason I did it and I really didnt enjoy it. The abuse you had to put up with..

I gave it up after I was attacked on the pitch by a spectator.

Yeah there is a bit of, putting something back in, I've given enough abuse to the ref so I'll see how difficult it is attitude... club needed referee's was the other reason as you have said, personally I was looking for something to keep me involved, I was still playing and looking after teams so at the start I wasnt doing that many games, took a break for a couple of years at hurling level as i was looking after our seniors which took up a lot of time and committment.

Refereeing as its high points and the very low points as Coaster has said, there is no excuse for a player/manager or supporter attacking anyone during or after a game, I've had a few confrontations with people over the years, ones telling you to ignore it and so on, well I'm sorry, if some clampit wants to have a go at me, I'll pull him..

Supporters think because they are behind the fence and have paid in that you and the other officials are fair game, I think its getting worse too. All clubs have that buck ejjit, but until they are fined by the county or their games are played away from home then it will continue!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
The county does its best to oversee refereeing standards, but the problem is that refereeing is pretty much an individual thing. By that I mean that different people probably get into it for different reasons,  it's down to them how much work they put in in the gym & how often they take a quick look at the rule book etc. As has been said on here before, no referee gives a toss who wins & who loses a game - there's no vested interest. However, supporters do & they take it out on the referee, as do a lot of players. We are talking about the possibility of having 2 refs for a game. Maybe at inter-County level, but we can barely get 1 for club games. There will always be a recruitment problem until we tackle the abuse that referees have to take more seriously.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
The county does its best to oversee refereeing standards, but the problem is that refereeing is pretty much an individual thing. By that I mean that different people probably get into it for different reasons,  it's down to them how much work they put in in the gym & how often they take a quick look at the rule book etc. As has been said on here before, no referee gives a toss who wins & who loses a game - there's no vested interest. However, supporters do & they take it out on the referee, as do a lot of players. We are talking about the possibility of having 2 refs for a game. Maybe at inter-County level, but we can barely get 1 for club games. There will always be a recruitment problem until we tackle the abuse that referees have to take more seriously.

But my problem and players problems are consistency from referees, they have to play the ref, there are some who are really strict on how many steps you take, tough on getting the handpass spot on certain tackles are noted some not, there are a  few other traits that referees, mainly ones that played for their club, bring to the game.. So my point is having two referees at either end putting their stamp on the game would only balls things up I think...

If the referee is fit enough and well placed then he's generally not too far away, but its hurling, I could be on the 45 and the next thing the ball is on the other 14 yard line! The fat 70 year old hanging over the fence shouting at the ref to keep up with play makes me chuckle though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on August 03, 2018, 10:39:06 AM
Giving refs a hard time, imagine  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on August 03, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2018, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
The county does its best to oversee refereeing standards, but the problem is that refereeing is pretty much an individual thing. By that I mean that different people probably get into it for different reasons,  it's down to them how much work they put in in the gym & how often they take a quick look at the rule book etc. As has been said on here before, no referee gives a toss who wins & who loses a game - there's no vested interest. However, supporters do & they take it out on the referee, as do a lot of players. We are talking about the possibility of having 2 refs for a game. Maybe at inter-County level, but we can barely get 1 for club games. There will always be a recruitment problem until we tackle the abuse that referees have to take more seriously.

But my problem and players problems are consistency from referees, they have to play the ref, there are some who are really strict on how many steps you take, tough on getting the handpass spot on certain tackles are noted some not, there are a  few other traits that referees, mainly ones that played for their club, bring to the game.. So my point is having two referees at either end putting their stamp on the game would only balls things up I think...

If the referee is fit enough and well placed then he's generally not too far away, but its hurling, I could be on the 45 and the next thing the ball is on the other 14 yard line! The fat 70 year old hanging over the fence shouting at the ref to keep up with play makes me chuckle though
Because the fat 70 year old is fat and 70 doesn't necessarily make him wrong though. What I mean is, just because he couldn't do it doesn't mean it shouldn't be expected from the referee. The fat 70 year old (or even a slim 40 year old) would also have an opinion on player performance. Just because they aren't able to do it doesn't mean they aren't right about what needs to be done. Team managers aren't able to do what they expect their players to do for example.
I agree the spectator/coach whoever might be right but they nearly always have a different line of sight to an alleged foul than the ref so there cant be a consensus every time. I've given my fair share of stick to refs including Milltown the odd time but decided in recent years, what's the point. In competitive sport you have to look for any advantage you can, getting up the ref's nose is not helping your cause. From a spectating point of view, I don't see a problem shouting at the referee as long as its not personal or nasty. It all adds to the atmosphere and spectacle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 12:09:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 03, 2018, 11:07:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 09:50:47 AM
The county does its best to oversee refereeing standards, but the problem is that refereeing is pretty much an individual thing. By that I mean that different people probably get into it for different reasons,  it's down to them how much work they put in in the gym & how often they take a quick look at the rule book etc. As has been said on here before, no referee gives a toss who wins & who loses a game - there's no vested interest. However, supporters do & they take it out on the referee, as do a lot of players. We are talking about the possibility of having 2 refs for a game. Maybe at inter-County level, but we can barely get 1 for club games. There will always be a recruitment problem until we tackle the abuse that referees have to take more seriously.

But my problem and players problems are consistency from referees, they have to play the ref, there are some who are really strict on how many steps you take, tough on getting the handpass spot on certain tackles are noted some not, there are a  few other traits that referees, mainly ones that played for their club, bring to the game.. So my point is having two referees at either end putting their stamp on the game would only balls things up I think...

If the referee is fit enough and well placed then he's generally not too far away, but its hurling, I could be on the 45 and the next thing the ball is on the other 14 yard line! The fat 70 year old hanging over the fence shouting at the ref to keep up with play makes me chuckle though
Because the fat 70 year old is fat and 70 doesn't necessarily make him wrong though. What I mean is, just because he couldn't do it doesn't mean it shouldn't be expected from the referee. The fat 70 year old (or even a slim 40 year old) would also have an opinion on player performance. Just because they aren't able to do it doesn't mean they aren't right about what needs to be done. Team managers aren't able to do what they expect their players to do for example.

It does when he tries to make an opinion on something that hes wrong about (not knowing the rules) and 70 yards away on the otherside of the pitch, he's wrong because he's assuming that a referee will be able to make the 70 yard dash to get to the 21 yard line to 'keep up with play' rant and he's wrong for shouting at a referee who gives up his time to referee the game for him to watch.

So In my view he's out of order when he's shouting at the referee, as it will never change his view on how the referee will see it and it may (for some refs) make him lose his judgement on other calls that this 'supporter' feels his team should get, human nature being as it is  ;)

Like Ive said before, if i sat the supporter down with a set of rules I doubt very much he's get 10 out of 50 right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 03, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
If you blew everything that is strictly speaking a free in hurling it would be a dire affair. I think this is what makes it particularly hard for Referees, generally if the referee is consistent to both sides what he will and won't let run he's doing a good job.

If he became a stickler and never took the whistle out of his mouth he'd be thought much the worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 03, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
If you blew everything that is strictly speaking a free in hurling it would be a dire affair. I think this is what makes it particularly hard for Referees, generally if the referee is consistent to both sides what he will and won't let run he's doing a good job.

If he became a stickler and never took the whistle out of his mouth he'd be thought much the worse.

100%

The advantage rule works to a point, I much preferred the old unofficial adavange rule were you allowed the player the extra couple of steps for being held back or the late whistle call when you seen nothing come from play after a 'foul'

I think its easier to ref if you have played and know the tricks and cons players try during the match, well it certainly helps but we have plenty good referees that have never played but some of them don't get the respect they deserve because of it...

but like in all sports some could do with more training, and nothing wrong with that, the improvement/set up in how Antrim referee committiee have shown in the past 10 years has been great.. the initial course is excellent and the prep for the start of the season with Ulster delegates, past referees is great. for anyone wanting to referee the championship, they must past the exam and must past the fitness test.. a 20m bleep test which is tough enough for some referees considering they are past their playing days..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 03, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
It's the same in most sports - you always hear refs in the EPL being praised for "letting the game flow". That generally means playing advantage where there is one and having a word with the aggressor without stopping the match. It's a fine balance though as they also need to ensure they aren't overly lenient. There is a reason why not many people sign up to be a ref!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
Milltown deserves it cos, by god, he never shut up when he was playing. I usually got both barrels from him! He even got uptight during his 'guest' appearances for BT.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
Milltown deserves it cos, by god, he never shut up when he was playing. I usually got both barrels from him! He even got uptight during his 'guest' appearances for BT.

Yes! Agreed and as a player we try to con the ref! Win frees take extra steps and move the ball forward!!

I'm hoping our lads go up! They might be in danger of going up, not sure if it's a good thing!

I might have to get back into training for the reserves!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on August 03, 2018, 07:16:39 PM
Yes.  You were a well versed master of the dark arts, from what I can remember....the archetypal gurning corner forward lol. Great refereeing material!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Is dunloy hammering st johns in the league while loughgiel drew with them a sign that dunloy are a good bit above the rest??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 06, 2018, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Is dunloy hammering st johns in the league while loughgiel drew with them a sign that dunloy are a good bit above the rest??

St Johns missing a few yesterday in fairness so wouldn't read to much into it. Our draw against cushendall is a more accurate reflection of our current state.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2018, 08:57:46 AM
tbf i was surprised at the result as St Johns have been playing very well at home this past few games so to get any result there is one worth taking.
as NAH says the draw against Cdall recently would sum where both teams are. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2018, 12:25:45 PM
St Johns had Ciaran Johnson, Stephen Tierney, Barry McFall and Michael Dudley all missing against Dunloy although a hammering like that right before Championship can't be good, does anyone know if these players are back for the Ballycastle game at the weekend. It's a very close balanced game between the two and can't see there being much score difference between them to see who gets into the group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 08, 2018, 01:28:43 PM
Just seen betting prices for Sunday's game and have to say I'm quite shocked to see Ballycastle as suck strong favourites for the game. Ballycastle 8/13, st Johns 11/8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 01:32:02 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 08, 2018, 01:28:43 PM
Just seen betting prices for Sunday's game and have to say I'm quite shocked to see Ballycastle as suck strong favourites for the game. Ballycastle 8/13, st Johns 11/8

Tradition? Leagues are for playing Championships are winning? Castle at home must play a part in those prices surely?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 08, 2018, 01:53:21 PM
More likely just the bookies haven't a notion what is is going on in Antrim hurling and are guessing odds to an extent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 08, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 01:53:21 PM
More likely just the bookies haven't a notion what is is going on in Antrim hurling and are guessing odds to an extent

No backdoors in the Antrim Senior championship?

Are Ballycastle harmonious this year? Is Cofi Annan managing them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 08, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 01:53:21 PM
More likely just the bookies haven't a notion what is is going on in Antrim hurling and are guessing odds to an extent

No backdoors in the Antrim Senior championship?

Are Ballycastle harmonious this year? Is Cofi Annan managing them?

If the Johnnies are serious this year then they could well push the big teams, forget about the game the other day as they were missing a good lot, still managed to knock over 19 points (let in 5-27) without playing well or anywhere near as well as they have of late, having 'seen' them a couple of times this year they have improved...

BUT!!!! Championship at Ballycastle will be a different affair, the Town wont suffer from fright playing against the Johnnies in their own backyard and if and that's a big if, they can get out their strongest team they won't be far away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 08, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
I'll be putting money on the Johnnie's at that price. St. John's are going well in the league. They drew with Loughgiel and beat ourselves. I'd say it's a long time since they had results like that. Ballycastle have been winning in Div 2 but not by big margins. Beat Armoy by 5 and Randalstown by 1 recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 08, 2018, 04:45:39 PM
Them prices are long gone now with St Johns now 10/11 and the Town at evens. Are Ballycastle missing Ciaran Clarke for championship anyone know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 09, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Hear there was an incident with the ref last night at the Div2 match  between Armoy V Sarsfields;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 08:02:57 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 09, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Hear there was an incident with the ref last night at the Div2 match  between Armoy V Sarsfields;

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 10, 2018, 08:53:31 AM
Unfortunately was not at the match myself so not sure of exactly what occured but apparently the ref was man handled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You're wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that's were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

We don't have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you'd have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you'd get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said 'we are in danger of going up!' But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We've about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we'd struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there's no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who's managing them would be looking for also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 12:11:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You're wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that's were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

We don't have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you'd have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you'd get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said 'we are in danger of going up!' But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We've about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we'd struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there's no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who's managing them would be looking for also

I'd say st galls aren't alone with those thoughts in division 2. There are a few other teams that have no interest in going upto div 1 as they know themselves it would be foolish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 10, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: cfclg on August 10, 2018, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 08, 2018, 09:19:21 PM
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You're wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that's were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

We don't have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you'd have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you'd get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said 'we are in danger of going up!' But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We've about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we'd struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there's no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who's managing them would be looking for also

My point wasnt solely down to Johnny's jokey comment, it is more of a malaise really and I agree with you on the age profile of the squad. My point is that the same type of attitude existed when these guys were in their mid-twenties.

I get the dual club aspect and I know there is a push back on there with the football, but point is still valid that maybe the eye went off the ball for a while in the development if only 4 younger lads are now on the squad.

It's a difficulty across the city unfortunately. Wasnt a lament aimed solely at St Galls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I'd know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven't won things than who have.. if it's the silverware you're after then you're missing the point..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I'd know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven't won things than who have.. if it's the silverware you're after then you're missing the point..

Isn't this competitive sport? Nobody leaves after getting beat in the championship and says "Never worry, theres a great crowd at the irish dancing in the club on a tuesday evening."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 06:51:39 PM
That's Rossa down I'd say. Them and Ballygalget on 6, Ballycran on 8. Even if Rossa beat Ballycran in the final game they have a much worse scoring difference. We gave them an absolute stuffing today. Jim Close on as a sub for them. Some change from beating Dunloy in the first match of the season. What went wrong?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 12, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 06:51:39 PM
That's Rossa down I'd say. Them and Ballygalget on 6, Ballycran on 8. Even if Rossa beat Ballycran in the final game they have a much worse scoring difference. We gave them an absolute stuffing today. Jim Close on as a sub for them. Some change from beating Dunloy in the first match of the season. What went wrong?
Mickey Armstrong & Crick's McGuinness our injured.
Deaglan Murphy, James Connolly, Gerard Walsh (and someone else who I can't think of) hurling in America this summer.
We lose those players we're flukes. Sunk in both codes has been accepted for a few weeks now.

Not easy HS. Are they likely to be back for championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2018, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I'd know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven't won things than who have.. if it's the silverware you're after then you're missing the point..

Isn't this competitive sport? Nobody leaves after getting beat in the championship and says "Never worry, theres a great crowd at the irish dancing in the club on a tuesday evening."

Good post, you must be some craic after losing a championship game.. the lads that hurled before 81 must enjoy your view on things
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2018, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2018, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 12, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that's how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we've no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we'd have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I'd look at the likes of S'niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I'd know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven't won things than who have.. if it's the silverware you're after then you're missing the point..

Isn't this competitive sport? Nobody leaves after getting beat in the championship and says "Never worry, theres a great crowd at the irish dancing in the club on a tuesday evening."

Good post, you must be some craic after losing a championship game.. the lads that hurled before 81 must enjoy your view on things

I'm sure they do likely share his view. You ever ask those men their thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2018, 11:55:37 PM
No PJ, have you? You know they do share his winning means everything view?

Winning is great, the buzz around the club, parish is something else. But I get as good a buzz when the club runs their May day tournament of the Pat Sheehan hurling tournament. Or the Féile competition this year that I went to in Galway.

Seeing young lads develop, bond and generally and turn out to be great adults and clubmen.. I don't think any less of them if we lose

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 13, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2018, 11:55:37 PM
No PJ, have you? You know they do share his winning means everything view?

Winning is great, the buzz around the club, parish is something else. But I get as good a buzz when the club runs their May day tournament of the Pat Sheehan hurling tournament. Or the Féile competition this year that I went to in Galway.

Seeing young lads develop, bond and generally and turn out to be great adults and clubmen.. I don't think any less of them if we lose

The 4/5 that I've spoken to all said that winning the championship is the most important thing that the club can do. It begins and ends with that.

Everybody is different, I take pride and pleasure in seeing the youth develop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2018, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 13, 2018, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2018, 11:55:37 PM
No PJ, have you? You know they do share his winning means everything view?

Winning is great, the buzz around the club, parish is something else. But I get as good a buzz when the club runs their May day tournament of the Pat Sheehan hurling tournament. Or the Féile competition this year that I went to in Galway.

Seeing young lads develop, bond and generally and turn out to be great adults and clubmen.. I don't think any less of them if we lose

The 4/5 that I've spoken to all said that winning the championship is the most important thing that the club can do. It begins and ends with that.

Everybody is different, I take pride and pleasure in seeing the youth develop.

I suppose there is the winning mentality that brings more people to the club that then will serve to keep the club pushing for championships..

On a different note, well done to our senior hurling team on their return to the top flight, with the start we had to the season they have managed to go unbeaten these last few games to achieve promotion, a lot of our lads will be nearing their twlight years so hopefully a big push to give it a lash next year will enable us to bring on some of our younger players and give them some experience against the big boys..

I'm hoping that we get a reserve team out, and I may get the chance to run out on to the pitch with the club colours on again!

Well done to the management also it must be said, juggling between both codes is never easy and they have managed to get a good balance and committment from the players at the right time of the year.. maybe a good run in championship well extend the season further
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 13, 2018, 11:40:55 AM
Anyone make it to Ballycastle yesterday?

Were St Johns that good or were Ballycaslte that bad? Worrying result for the Town men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 13, 2018, 11:57:08 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 13, 2018, 11:40:55 AM
Anyone make it to Ballycastle yesterday?

Were St Johns that good or were Ballycaslte that bad? Worrying result for the Town men.

was down at it myself, was a poor enough game to be fair. Very flat game and not much excitement in it for a neutral.

the goals killed ballycastle, all 5 of them came from mistakes in defence. the 3rd one was criminal as they had just scored a penalty and then conceded it straight away all from a mistake allowing a ball to get that far into the box.

I expected St Johns to win but not by that much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2018, 08:14:34 AM
championship starts this weekend for real now. any predicitions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 06:39:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2018, 08:14:34 AM
championship starts this weekend for real now. any predicitions?

Dunlop have been the stand out team all year. It's their championship to loose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2018, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 06:39:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2018, 08:14:34 AM
championship starts this weekend for real now. any predicitions?

Dunlop have been the stand out team all year. It's their championship to loose.

hardly say that now. They have drew games, lost once and won games only just at times. we have played decent enough at times but at the same time just got over the line in some of them.

Im hopeful we can get the win on sat but its going to be a tough match. Cushendall at home are very hard to beat and in a championship game it will be even harder. Wont be much in in either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on August 23, 2018, 10:18:19 AM
Embarrassing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeUCwq2mDFw 

A hard and depressing watch and listen

Casement's and Antrim/Belfast's demise played out on National Airwaves
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 10:47:13 AM
I'd fancy Dunloy for this years championship again, think they have the right balance of youth and experience. Their game on Saturday with Cushendall won't have much meaning as it will be a game of shadow boxing as both teams will beat Sarsfields handily and qualify for the semis. Watson will be a big miss for Loughgiel after another injury does anyone know how bad it is and is he rules out for long?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 02:29:59 PM
Can someone confirm or correct me on the following? Senior championship,regardless of whether you finish 1st in the group you could still be drawn against the 1st placed team in the other group? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 02:35:25 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 02:29:59 PM
Can someone confirm or correct me on the following? Senior championship,regardless of whether you finish 1st in the group you could still be drawn against the 1st placed team in the other group?

As far as I know its an open draw after the group stages. So Cushendall could play Dunloy again in the semi if they qualify.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 23, 2018, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 06:39:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2018, 08:14:34 AM
championship starts this weekend for real now. any predicitions?

Dunlop have been the stand out team all year. It's their championship to loose.

hardly say that now. They have drew games, lost once and won games only just at times. we have played decent enough at times but at the same time just got over the line in some of them.

Im hopeful we can get the win on sat but its going to be a tough match. Cushendall at home are very hard to beat and in a championship game it will be even harder. Wont be much in in either way.

League tables doesn't lie DR. https://antrim.gaa.ie/fixtures/achl-division-1-1
Lost 1 game to Rossa at the very start of the year. Your loss to ourselves in the feis shouldn't even be discussed. Both teams short a lot of players and no real reflection on either team. Lifted U-21 again this year as well. Time to start dealing with the reality that you boys are the top dogs in the county DR. Nobody is buying the act!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
JJ you are a laugh - dunloy are the clear favourites, League table doesnt lie - did Dunloy win the league last year?

At ht last year you looked like the winners only to be caught sleeping in the first 12mins of the 2nd half and yep they blew you away; While dunloy might win on sat, with Neil and a few others missing on your side - i would still put you lot as favourites; You have now a few younger players bedded into the team and should be better prepared to deal with the movement of the Dunloy inside forward line but who knows time will tell - I think Cdall are the favourites but then again so where Galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 03:05:28 PM
Is Neil out injured or just sitting it out Sweeper?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
JJ you are a laugh - dunloy are the clear favourites, League table doesnt lie - did Dunloy win the league last year?

At ht last year you looked like the winners only to be caught sleeping in the first 12mins of the 2nd half and yep they blew you away; While dunloy might win on sat, with Neil and a few others missing on your side - i would still put you lot as favourites; You have now a few younger players bedded into the team and should be better prepared to deal with the movement of the Dunloy inside forward line but who knows time will tell - I think Cdall are the favourites but then again so where Galway.

I agree with you on one thing, this Saturday's game is an utter irrelevance. Your comparison of ourselves and Galway is a bit daft. Maybe it's the maroon shirts? Galway won the All Ireland last year (Dunloy won the county championship last year), Galway were the form team this year (Dunloy are the form team in Antrim this year). Yes we have a few new youngsters in this year but unproven at championship level. Where as from 1-15 Dunloy have players who have a proven championship pedigree. Do Dunloy not like being the best in the county at the moment or what?   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 03:10:18 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 03:05:28 PM
Is Neil out injured or just sitting it out Sweeper?

Hes suspended I believe - serving a one match ban from last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
JJ you are a laugh - dunloy are the clear favourites, League table doesnt lie - did Dunloy win the league last year?

At ht last year you looked like the winners only to be caught sleeping in the first 12mins of the 2nd half and yep they blew you away; While dunloy might win on sat, with Neil and a few others missing on your side - i would still put you lot as favourites; You have now a few younger players bedded into the team and should be better prepared to deal with the movement of the Dunloy inside forward line but who knows time will tell - I think Cdall are the favourites but then again so where Galway.

I agree with you on one thing, this Saturday's game is an utter irrelevance. Your comparison of ourselves and Galway is a bit daft. Maybe it's the maroon shirts? Galway won the All Ireland last year (Dunloy won the county championship last year), Galway were the form team this year (Dunloy are the form team in Antrim this year). Yes we have a few new youngsters in this year but unproven at championship level. Where as from 1-15 Dunloy have players who have a proven championship pedigree. Do Dunloy not like being the best in the county at the moment or what?   

JJ I was only comparing Cdall with Galway as both being the favourites for the Cship nothing else - in my opinion
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2018, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 23, 2018, 02:59:21 PM
JJ you are a laugh - dunloy are the clear favourites, League table doesnt lie - did Dunloy win the league last year?

At ht last year you looked like the winners only to be caught sleeping in the first 12mins of the 2nd half and yep they blew you away; While dunloy might win on sat, with Neil and a few others missing on your side - i would still put you lot as favourites; You have now a few younger players bedded into the team and should be better prepared to deal with the movement of the Dunloy inside forward line but who knows time will tell - I think Cdall are the favourites but then again so where Galway.

I agree with you on one thing, this Saturday's game is an utter irrelevance. Your comparison of ourselves and Galway is a bit daft. Maybe it's the maroon shirts? Galway won the All Ireland last year (Dunloy won the county championship last year), Galway were the form team this year (Dunloy are the form team in Antrim this year). Yes we have a few new youngsters in this year but unproven at championship level. Where as from 1-15 Dunloy have players who have a proven championship pedigree. Do Dunloy not like being the best in the county at the moment or what?   

Dont mind being the favourites if people want to call us that  ;)

to be honest i never expected us to win it last year at all so it was a welcome surprise to lift it when we did. At HT i thought we were in big bother as Cdall were winning the battles all over the pitch. the second half was, well, out of the blue.

This year we have been steadily going along well enough. we are winning games but like i said before its only just winning them.

put it this way, come sat i wouldnt want to bet my wages on us winning as i see it as a 50/50 game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 23, 2018, 03:16:19 PM
i cant see the draw being open at all for the semi finals. makes no sense to have the same teams face each other again.

i thought it was 1st v 2nd in the opposite groups in each case? otherwise whats the point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 03:39:28 PM
That way would make sense Dunloy Realist but its an open draw as was stated at the county board meeting when the draw was made. It's a daft decision as usual from our county board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on August 23, 2018, 04:39:12 PM
Nearly sure you can only be drawn against a team that qualified from the other group... So if loughgiel qualify they can get dunloy or cushendall in the semi final if they both qualify. cant draw a team from the same group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 23, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
Group stage is a complete waste of time. If any team other than Dunloy, Cushendall, Loughgiel and St. Johns are in the semi final I'll be extremely surprised. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 24, 2018, 09:01:55 AM
see dunloy odds shortening from evs to 8/11 (with PP) and will prob end up shorter as cdall missing a good few players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2018, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 10:47:13 AM
I'd fancy Dunloy for this years championship again, think they have the right balance of youth and experience. Their game on Saturday with Cushendall won't have much meaning as it will be a game of shadow boxing as both teams will beat Sarsfields handily and qualify for the semis. Watson will be a big miss for Loughgiel after another injury does anyone know how bad it is and is he rules out for long?

Barney McAuley also injured as well I think? Pity not to see Watson playing as I think with him Loughgiel would have challenged Dunloy but the way it is I think Dunloy could maybe win it handy enough. I just don't think Cushendall have the forwards for it unless Ryan McCambridge up there really works and Paddy McGill is on his game.

St Johns maybe a dark horse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on August 24, 2018, 12:04:39 PM
This weekends matches are totally pointless and will tell us nothing going forward.

I dont know but im sure Dunloy wont be a full strength, but i do now Cushendall are missing a good few due to injury etc.

I just hope it isnt too Sunny  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 25, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 24, 2018, 09:09:44 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 23, 2018, 10:47:13 AM
I'd fancy Dunloy for this years championship again, think they have the right balance of youth and experience. Their game on Saturday with Cushendall won't have much meaning as it will be a game of shadow boxing as both teams will beat Sarsfields handily and qualify for the semis. Watson will be a big miss for Loughgiel after another injury does anyone know how bad it is and is he rules out for long?

Barney McAuley also injured as well I think? Pity not to see Watson playing as I think with him Loughgiel would have challenged Dunloy but the way it is I think Dunloy could maybe win it handy enough. I just don't think Cushendall have the forwards for it unless Ryan McCambridge up there really works and Paddy McGill is on his game.

St Johns maybe a dark horse.

St. John's could beat Cushendall, Loughgiel or Dunloy in a one off but I can't see them beating two of the big three and they'll need to do that to win a Championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 25, 2018, 03:46:01 PM
Big win for loughgiel though not a surprise i guess. Watson stripped out again i notice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 25, 2018, 09:52:03 PM
C'Dall V Dunloy was a decent enough game. I think C'Dall will be the happy with their performance with the lads they are missing. Good to see Christy stripped out again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 26, 2018, 08:16:57 AM
Yep i think Cdall can count themselves unlucky - 3 or 4 few wides in the last 10minutes; Sweeper made it difficult for Dunloy to get scores and McManus still to come back in - Dalls to lose for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 26, 2018, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 26, 2018, 08:16:57 AM
Yep i think Cdall can count themselves unlucky - 3 or 4 few wides in the last 10minutes; Sweeper made it difficult for Dunloy to get scores and McManus still to come back in - Dalls to lose for me.

Graffin also to comeback along Sean McAfee & Eoin Gillan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2018, 09:27:05 AM
Were dunloy not missing a good few too though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
A bit of shadow boxing yesterday, both teams will have more in the tank when it matters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on August 26, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
And Thankfully a different Referee :P ;D

We were missing Graffin, McManus, Marty Burke, Carson, Bouncy & Sean McAfee!! Our supporters where quite happy considering the young team we had out. Dunloy will be better in the Final which is the next time we can meet, if we can get by the next 2 matches!!  Loughgiel and St John's will feel they are as good as any team!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 26, 2018, 07:30:53 PM
Thought Clooney looked good yesterday very impressive win V Cmills; See another D2 team losing today with Creggan beating Armoy.

Also heard St Galls had 2 straight reds which will mean they will be missing against Oisins - which must swing things toward them.

Intermediate looks very tight , any of the 8 teams now left could win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 26, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
And Thankfully a different Referee :P ;D

We were missing Graffin, McManus, Marty Burke, Carson, Bouncy & Sean McAfee!! Our supporters where quite happy considering the young team we had out. Dunloy will be better in the Final which is the next time we can meet, if we can get by the next 2 matches!!  Loughgiel and St John's will feel they are as good as any team!!

Careful what you wish for  ;)

Bit of a damp squid for this weekend games..

We shouldn't have too many complaints, and Gelnariffe should hammer us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 26, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
And Thankfully a different Referee :P ;D

We were missing Graffin, McManus, Marty Burke, Carson, Bouncy & Sean McAfee!! Our supporters where quite happy considering the young team we had out. Dunloy will be better in the Final which is the next time we can meet, if we can get by the next 2 matches!!  Loughgiel and St John's will feel they are as good as any team!!

Careful what you wish for  ;)

Bit of a damp squid for this weekend games..

We shouldn't have too many complaints, and Gelnariffe should hammer us

Based on ? We could yet be relegated to Div 3 and you got promoted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 26, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
And Thankfully a different Referee :P ;D

We were missing Graffin, McManus, Marty Burke, Carson, Bouncy & Sean McAfee!! Our supporters where quite happy considering the young team we had out. Dunloy will be better in the Final which is the next time we can meet, if we can get by the next 2 matches!!  Loughgiel and St John's will feel they are as good as any team!!

Careful what you wish for  ;)

Bit of a damp squid for this weekend games..

We shouldn't have too many complaints, and Gelnariffe should hammer us

Based on ? We could yet be relegated to Div 3 and you got promoted

We've a good 15, but would struggle when depleted with injuries and suspensions. That will be 4 regular players missing for next game.. Armoy and C'mills both teams bate by teams in lower league  today, wide open championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on August 27, 2018, 06:33:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
Quote from: Hand up on August 26, 2018, 04:48:58 PM
And Thankfully a different Referee :P ;D

We were missing Graffin, McManus, Marty Burke, Carson, Bouncy & Sean McAfee!! Our supporters where quite happy considering the young team we had out. Dunloy will be better in the Final which is the next time we can meet, if we can get by the next 2 matches!!  Loughgiel and St John's will feel they are as good as any team!!

Careful what you wish for  ;)

Bit of a damp squid for this weekend games..

We shouldn't have too many complaints, and Gelnariffe should hammer us

Based on ? We could yet be relegated to Div 3 and you got promoted

We've a good 15, but would struggle when depleted with injuries and suspensions. That will be 4 regular players missing for next game.. Armoy and C'mills both teams bate by teams in lower league  today, wide open championship

Just read the report of your match with Gort Na Mona MR2. Seems like you have a good 12 rather than 15  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Unfortunately for Gorts they they didn't have anyone who could shoot or pass the right ball into Dessie,  they also didn't push up with the extra 3 men.. I suppose that's a tactic you don't expect

Glenariffe racked up a huge score and only conceded 1 point!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 27, 2018, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Unfortunately for Gorts they they didn't have anyone who could shoot or pass the right ball into Dessie,  they also didn't push up with the extra 3 men.. I suppose that's a tactic you don't expect

Glenariffe racked up a huge score and only conceded 1 point!

MR2 - I love it, we have no chance, missing 2 players and a few injured + Glenariffe stuffed LD;  Doesnt matter that you turned them over twice in the league, beat Gorts minus 3 players and have got a few new players back playing.

The Championship mindgames
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on August 27, 2018, 11:50:59 AM
Heard Cushendall made the pitch smaller for saturdays match? Anyone know anything about this? About a metre at either side of the field is what i was told. Pretty funny if true
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 27, 2018, 01:09:50 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on August 27, 2018, 11:50:59 AM
Heard Cushendall made the pitch smaller for saturdays match? Anyone know anything about this? About a metre at either side of the field is what i was told. Pretty funny if true

Thought the grass looked long
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
Heard they turned off the hot water in the showers also
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
Heard they turned off the hot water in the showers also

And no brown envelope
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 27, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 27, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
Heard they turned off the hot water in the showers also

And no brown envelope

Aye it showed..  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 28, 2018, 09:14:57 AM
noticed the side line being moved in lol thought it was funny myself.

Poor enough game i thought from ourselves. wasn't much of a game in fairness for a neutral to watch. also very few goal chances for either side which was rare.

both sides look like theres a lot more in them for further down the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2018, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 28, 2018, 09:14:57 AM
noticed the side line being moved in lol thought it was funny myself.

Poor enough game i thought from ourselves. wasn't much of a game in fairness for a neutral to watch. also very few goal chances for either side which was rare.

both sides look like theres a lot more in them for further down the line.

Yeah it was a strange game, in a strange atmosphere for championship (I suppose it wasnt really proper championship)
Neither team properly firing, slow pitch and the lack of that edge.

Some strange team selections as well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 28, 2018, 11:55:24 AM
So we are now playing an Intermediate Hurling match at 8.30 on a friday night under lights in ballymena - surely this is madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 28, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 28, 2018, 11:55:24 AM
So we are now playing an Intermediate Hurling match at 8.30 on a friday night under lights in ballymena - surely this is madness
Vital JFC football match on beforehand.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 28, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 28, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 28, 2018, 11:55:24 AM
So we are now playing an Intermediate Hurling match at 8.30 on a friday night under lights in ballymena - surely this is madness
Vital JFC football match on beforehand.  :-X

Maybe had it on the sat when all other matches where on .....oh forgot Galls away to Dublin on the Sat 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 28, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Good luck to any hurling match under lights in Ballymena.  Ok for football
Not the small ball.  8:30 .... getting like la liga
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 29, 2018, 04:40:59 AM
Weekend Championship predictions for bit of craic
Dunloy vs Sarsfields - Dunloy by 10+
Loughgiel vs St Johns - Loughgiel by 6
St Galls vs Glenariffe - St Galls by 4
St Endas vs Tir Na Og - St Endas by 3
Rasharkin vs Creggan - Creggan by 7
Carey vs Clooney Gaels - Clooney Gaels by 2
Glenravel vs St Paul's - Glenravel by 1
Ballymena vs Cushendun - Cushendun by 6

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 29, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 28, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Good luck to any hurling match under lights in Ballymena.  Ok for football
Not the small ball.  8:30 .... getting like la liga

To be fair, any time I have seen a game under the lights in Ballymena it has been good. The lights are a good standrad and dont think there are many better around for a club ground.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 30, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
Prices of Paddy Power bookmakers for senior and Intermediate games

Dunloy 1/50 vs Sarsfields 10/1
Loughgiel 1/8 vs St Johns 5/1
St Galls 1/3 vs Glenariffe 9/4
St Endas 4/7 vs Tir Na Og 6/4
Creggan 1/7 vs Rasharkin 4/1
Clooney Gaels 1/2 vs Carey 13/8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 30, 2018, 05:23:52 PM
some decent prices there but bookies are rarely wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on August 30, 2018, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 29, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 28, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Good luck to any hurling match under lights in Ballymena.  Ok for football
Not the small ball.  8:30 .... getting like la liga

To be fair, any time I have seen a game under the lights in Ballymena it has been good. The lights are a good standrad and dont think there are many better around for a club ground.

Genuinely only seen 1 Ballymena senior game there.  Hurling that is.  Seen a few football games there and even the Ballymena clubmen said it doesn't meet the hurling pitch lighting requirements which differ from football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2018, 07:18:18 PM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 30, 2018, 06:47:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 29, 2018, 09:56:52 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on August 28, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Good luck to any hurling match under lights in Ballymena.  Ok for football
Not the small ball.  8:30 .... getting like la liga

To be fair, any time I have seen a game under the lights in Ballymena it has been good. The lights are a good standrad and dont think there are many better around for a club ground.

Genuinely only seen 1 Ballymena senior game there.  Hurling that is.  Seen a few football games there and even the Ballymena clubmen said it doesn't meet the hurling pitch lighting requirements which differ from football.

It'll be the same for both teams.. best team wins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 31, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 30, 2018, 05:23:52 PM
some decent prices there but bookies are rarely wrong

What ones are you thinking on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2018, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 30, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
Prices of Paddy Power bookmakers for senior and Intermediate games

Dunloy 1/50 vs Sarsfields 10/1    Dunloy 25+ (Even with a Reserve Team)
Loughgiel 1/8 vs St Johns 5/1      5/1 - bet of the season - get on (Loughgiel will be experimenting on Sunday with a win on the board and have already qualified for the Semis)
St Galls 1/3 vs Glenariffe 9/4       9/4 - tasty price - more of a 50/50 game
St Endas 4/7 vs Tir Na Og 6/4      6/4 - only a point separated the sides a few weeks ago - go with the value
Creggan 1/7 vs Rasharkin 4/1      Creggan comfortably
Clooney Gaels 1/2 vs Carey 13/8  Momentum with Clooney who will win this one comfortably
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 31, 2018, 10:20:42 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2018, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 30, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
Prices of Paddy Power bookmakers for senior and Intermediate games

Dunloy 1/50 vs Sarsfields 10/1    Dunloy 25+ (Even with a Reserve Team)
Loughgiel 1/8 vs St Johns 5/1      5/1 - bet of the season - get on (Loughgiel will be experimenting on Sunday with a win on the board and have already qualified for the Semis)
St Galls 1/3 vs Glenariffe 9/4       9/4 - tasty price - more of a 50/50 game
St Endas 4/7 vs Tir Na Og 6/4      6/4 - only a point separated the sides a few weeks ago - go with the value
Creggan 1/7 vs Rasharkin 4/1      Creggan comfortably
Clooney Gaels 1/2 vs Carey 13/8  Momentum with Clooney who will win this one comfortably

Yep would agree with the most but not sure the Johnnies will be concerned about this one, if the beat Rossa they qualify for the semis so i think this will be meaningless and both teams wont really care;
Glenariffe will be close V Galls and 9/4 really over priced here - Galls missing a couple of players due to red cards in semi;
Also Randalstown - both times they played Endas had injuries and back at full strength - I think this is the best bet of w/e @6/4;
Creggan should get the win but. Rasharkin @ 4/1 over priced - Cregan should win though but will be nothing more than 3 points in it - could be a suprise with a bit of luck ;
Clooney v Carey - drew last time out in league and beaten finalists last year this is a flip of a coin - Clooney looked good v Cmills but Carey are a different team come cship;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 01, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 31, 2018, 10:20:42 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on August 31, 2018, 09:39:22 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 30, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
Prices of Paddy Power bookmakers for senior and Intermediate games

Dunloy 1/50 vs Sarsfields 10/1    Dunloy 25+ (Even with a Reserve Team)
Loughgiel 1/8 vs St Johns 5/1      5/1 - bet of the season - get on (Loughgiel will be experimenting on Sunday with a win on the board and have already qualified for the Semis)
St Galls 1/3 vs Glenariffe 9/4       9/4 - tasty price - more of a 50/50 game
St Endas 4/7 vs Tir Na Og 6/4      6/4 - only a point separated the sides a few weeks ago - go with the value
Creggan 1/7 vs Rasharkin 4/1      Creggan comfortably
Clooney Gaels 1/2 vs Carey 13/8  Momentum with Clooney who will win this one comfortably

Yep would agree with the most but not sure the Johnnies will be concerned about this one, if the beat Rossa they qualify for the semis so i think this will be meaningless and both teams wont really care;
Glenariffe will be close V Galls and 9/4 really over priced here - Galls missing a couple of players due to red cards in semi;
Also Randalstown - both times they played Endas had injuries and back at full strength - I think this is the best bet of w/e @6/4;
Creggan should get the win but. Rasharkin @ 4/1 over priced - Cregan should win though but will be nothing more than 3 points in it - could be a suprise with a bit of luck ;
Clooney v Carey - drew last time out in league and beaten finalists last year this is a flip of a coin - Clooney looked good v Cmills but Carey are a different team come cship;



Hope you didn't lose too much on randalstown today sweeper 😮😮😮
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2018, 11:07:52 AM
The 25 + points win for Dunloy was very we'll predicted..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2018, 08:05:49 PM
The Johnnies will have come away happy enough for today's 'challenge' match, few things to work on, Loughgiel made it over the line alright but will have wanted to do it with more to spare, though I'd say both teams are happy, though Rossa would love nothing else to ambush St Johns, but I doubt it will happen..

Carey took care of Clooney, who started brightly but were pegged back, Carey were decent with some solid displays, them and Creggan and us and St Endas should be tight semi finals.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 03, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
any dates for the semi finals of intermediate? are they same weekend as the senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 03, 2018, 04:51:48 PM
Very impressed with Carey, they overcame a slow start and dominated the game from there on. I had thought Clooney would have been too much for them. Two great looking semi finals now in the Intermediate in 2 weeks time, hopefully be played as a double header. In the senior game I thought Loughgiel were comfortable enough winners and only for the Johnnies tagging on a late goal and point making it look closer, but neither side will be taking much from the game as both have a lot more in the tank.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: crookes on September 05, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
It's looking like the SHC will be between Dunloy and Cushendall again this season. Loughgiel and St John's haven't the quality across the squads to match either of them at the minute. Knockout games are different but from what has been on show so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 05, 2018, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: crookes on September 05, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
It's looking like the SHC will be between Dunloy and Cushendall again this season. Loughgiel and St John's haven't the quality across the squads to match either of them at the minute. Knockout games are different but from what has been on show so far

Not if they get drawn to meet each other in the semis!

Can someone clarify that it is open draw for semis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2018, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: cfclg on September 05, 2018, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: crookes on September 05, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
It's looking like the SHC will be between Dunloy and Cushendall again this season. Loughgiel and St John's haven't the quality across the squads to match either of them at the minute. Knockout games are different but from what has been on show so far

Not if they get drawn to meet each other in the semis!

Can someone clarify that it is open draw for semis?

It is an open draw but you cant be drawn against a team that has qualified from your group  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 05, 2018, 02:08:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 05, 2018, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: cfclg on September 05, 2018, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: crookes on September 05, 2018, 09:37:33 AM
It's looking like the SHC will be between Dunloy and Cushendall again this season. Loughgiel and St John's haven't the quality across the squads to match either of them at the minute. Knockout games are different but from what has been on show so far

Not if they get drawn to meet each other in the semis!

Can someone clarify that it is open draw for semis?

It is an open draw but you cant be drawn against a team that has qualified from your group  :-X

Jeekers, if theres an a*se about face way to do something and complicate it we will surely find it!!

First in one group v second in the other would have made for a better spectacle in the group stages as well. But that would have made too much sense  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2018, 12:36:56 PM
Is it just me or does it feel like there has been little or no hurling to speak of in the county this year?  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 10, 2018, 12:36:56 PM
Is it just me or does it feel like there has been little or no hurling to speak of in the county this year?  :(

Jesus the hurling at county level was nip and tuck in nearly all the games and they were very unlucky

As for club hurling sure its not championship till the semi finals and that the same every year at senior

as for the intermediate its very close and any of the 4 semi finalist will fancy their chances and 2 of the teams are playing in a league below !

I'd be more concerned if an Antrim team doesnt beat S'neil this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 10, 2018, 01:59:55 PM
What are the dates for the semi finals in the senior and when is the draw for it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on September 10, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
I believe the draw will be made on 17th (County Meeting); semi-finals 30th September and final 14th October...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 11, 2018, 10:45:38 AM
With Rossa giving Portglenone a good test in the football last weekend, have they players back for championship? Will this match be a lot closer than expected? Rossa would love nothing more to upset the Johnnies and form may go out the window when the whistle is blown! 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 12, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Would be very surprised, cant see there being any less than 10 points in this!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP

Shocking, would have run up against him many a time!  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Predictions for this weekend games and prices from Paddy Power

Sarsfields (10/1) vs Cushendall (1/50) - Cushendall by 15+
St Johns (1/10) vs Rossa (11/2) - St Johns by 8
Carey (8/15) vs Creggan (13/8) - I can see extra time needed
St Galls (8/15) vs St Endas - St Galls a good bet here I see them winning by 5 at least

What's the thoughts of other posters on the games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 13, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP

just heard this myself. i went to the tech in Ballymena with him for a few years. Came up against him a few times in the camogie when he was over Creggan girls as well.

A great fella. Shocking news.

RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 13, 2018, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP

Shocking, would have run up against him many a time!  :(

Very sad, don't think I've seen him since playing days. A civil fella and great player for Whitehill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 13, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Predictions for this weekend games and prices from Paddy Power

Sarsfields (10/1) vs Cushendall (1/50) - Cushendall by 15+
St Johns (1/10) vs Rossa (11/2) - St Johns by 8
Carey (8/15) vs Creggan (13/8) - I can see extra time needed
St Galls (8/15) vs St Endas - St Galls a good bet here I see them winning by 5 at least

What's the thoughts of other posters on the games

I see both the IHC games being tight affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2018, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP

Gees I mind him from playing. Awful. RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2018, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
Sad news from Randalstown about Darryl Heatley, an absolute gent, I'm sure some of you would have known him from playing against him.

RIP

Absolutely unreal. Many a drink and chat I had with him.

RIP Pal..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2018, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Predictions for this weekend games and prices from Paddy Power

Sarsfields (10/1) vs Cushendall (1/50) - Cushendall by 15+
St Johns (1/10) vs Rossa (11/2) - St Johns by 8
Carey (8/15) vs Creggan (13/8) - I can see extra time needed
St Galls (8/15) vs St Endas - St Galls a good bet here I see them winning by 5 at least

What's the thoughts of other posters on the games

St Endas are a great bet, we've been very lucky against them in both league games

Anyone from the other game, Creggan massive value ..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2018, 01:24:29 PM
Anyone offering 13/8 on Creggan would need their head looked at.

I fancy them to beat Carey although it will be one hell of a scrap.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 14, 2018, 01:32:55 PM
Carey beaten finalists last year, turned over a very fancied Clooney Gaels team last time out - i think the bookies have the odds right; Not saying Creggan wont turn them over but Carey have to be favourites on league performaces and championship performance to date;

But sure i thought Tir Na Og would turn St Endas over and it wasnt even close - lol;

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 15, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 13, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
Predictions for this weekend games and prices from Paddy Power

Sarsfields (10/1) vs Cushendall (1/50) - Cushendall by 15+
St Johns (1/10) vs Rossa (11/2) - St Johns by 8
Carey (8/15) vs Creggan (13/8) - I can see extra time needed
St Galls (8/15) vs St Endas - St Galls a good bet here I see them winning by 5 at least

What's the thoughts of other posters on the games

Cushendall by 20+
St. John's by 10+

Both intermediate games are coin tosses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
Creggan game not as tight as expected. They won by 5.

Cushendun v glenarm in the juniir final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 15, 2018, 06:41:57 PM
Creggan won 0-18 to 1-6. Not a great game Carey were very poor and never got going. Creggan won handily without playing anywhere near their best either. Good result for them and they know they have plenty more in the tank as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
27 point win for cushendall. 3-30 to 0-12.

Nearly into the business end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2018, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 15, 2018, 06:41:57 PM
Creggan won 0-18 to 1-6. Not a great game Carey were very poor and never got going. Creggan won handily without playing anywhere near their best either. Good result for them and they know they have plenty more in the tank as well
Shocked by the margin, expected a Creggan win based on their experience of winning big games but what happened to Carey?? Still expect tomorrow's game to be tight all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 15, 2018, 09:23:43 PM
Creggan were playing with any breeze advantage in the first half and had 7 points on the board before Carey actually copped on that they were in a match.

Carey's body language departing the field at half time indicated that they knew they were beat.

A lad sent off 10 minutes into the second half added to their woes and Creggan really just had to maintain the points gap to see out the victory.

I think Carey did all their hurling in the previous round against Ahoghill because they didnt bring a lot to Armoy today.

Was impressed with Cushendun in the first match. Their hurling was sharp and St Pauls never seemed to be playing to a game plan except to lump it in high where their full forward was causing a bit of havoc under the dropping ball. Their penalty miss in the first half certainly didnt help their cause either.

Cushendun had the breeze in the second half and slotted over several points without reply and the St Paul's goal in injury took the bad look off the scoreboard when they were going for goals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2018, 09:54:06 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on September 15, 2018, 09:23:43 PM
Creggan were playing with any breeze advantage in the first half and had 7 points on the board before Carey actually copped on that they were in a match.

Carey's body language departing the field at half time indicated that they knew they were beat.

A lad sent off 10 minutes into the second half added to their woes and Creggan really just had to maintain the points gap to see out the victory.

I think Carey did all their hurling in the previous round against Ahoghill because they didnt bring a lot to Armoy today.

Was impressed with Cushendun in the first match. Their hurling was sharp and St Pauls never seemed to be playing to a game plan except to lump it in high where their full forward was causing a bit of havoc under the dropping ball. Their penalty miss in the first half certainly didnt help their cause either.

Cushendun had the breeze in the second half and slotted over several points without reply and the St Paul's goal in injury took the bad look off the scoreboard when they were going for goals.
Delighted for Cushendun getting to another final, sounds like they are carrying better form into it this year. Would love to see them get it done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
Workman like win for us tonight against St Endas, we didn't look like losing but a fully loaded Enda's team would have pushed us harder..

Should be a decent final and we'd be raging favourites but  Creggan are a decent team similar to ours with fit dual players, Creggan would have the younger squad but experience helps so here's hoping for  a great final!

Rossa will be scratching their heads tonight, hurled really well and took the lead, but too early as the johnnies managed the game in the closing stages well and stuck two late goals for good measure..

Championship starts now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 16, 2018, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
Workman like win for us tonight against St Endas, we didn't look like losing but a fully loaded Enda's team would have pushed us harder..

Should be a decent final and we'd be raging favourites but  Creggan are a decent team similar to ours with fit dual players, Creggan would have the younger squad but experience helps so here's hoping for  a great final!

Rossa will be scratching their heads tonight, hurled really well and took the lead, but too early as the johnnies managed the game in the closing stages well and stuck two late goals for good measure..

Championship starts now
One to forget for us, really didn't anticipate us being that poor, made look that poor I suppose. We were clueless, well done St.Galls.
Surprised the Johnnies were so cagey today, you were always expecting them to go for the jugular yet they were happy taking long range options most of the time. A game they needed to get out of the way without taking too many risks perhaps.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 17, 2018, 01:58:29 PM
Slaughtneil into the Derry final but they only squeezed past Dungiven by a point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 17, 2018, 01:58:29 PM
Slaughtneil into the Derry final but they only squeezed past Dungiven by a point.

Still the team to beat in Ulster regardless of who wins Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 17, 2018, 02:39:04 PM
Was a scrappy enough affair though. Lynches fairly put it up to Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 17, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Fair play to Mickey Culbert at St Galls, he appears to have them all singing from the same hymn sheet. With promotion to Division one already secured and county final to look forward to, it will be interesting to see how they combine this with a potential run in the football championship. Have they anyone else to come back in for the final MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 17, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Fair play to Mickey Culbert at St Galls, he appears to have them all singing from the same hymn sheet. With promotion to Division one already secured and county final to look forward to, it will be interesting to see how they combine this with a potential run in the football championship. Have they anyone else to come back in for the final MR2?

Yeah Mickey has turned things for the hurlers as we at the start of the season were looking pretty bad with some heavy defeats, corner turned and players back from injuries and we have looked steady without actually setting things on fire. Burkey to come back and Stevie Morrison in defence.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 07:29:29 PM
That standard generally is the same most years for one team coming up.... Rossa proved their worth yesterday once they got some of the walking injured back, possibly with their full team would have put up a better showing based on their early league form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 07:29:29 PM
That standard generally is the same most years for one team coming up.... Rossa proved their worth yesterday once they got some of the walking injured back, possibly with their full team would have put up a better showing based on their early league form.

And what about the reffing  :D

To be fair Rossa should be competing and would have been closer other than some crazy 'transfers'.

Serious stuff from here in.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 07:29:29 PM
That standard generally is the same most years for one team coming up.... Rossa proved their worth yesterday once they got some of the walking injured back, possibly with their full team would have put up a better showing based on their early league form.

And what about the reffing  :D

To be fair Rossa should be competing and would have been closer other than some crazy 'transfers'.

Serious stuff from here in.

Squeaky bum time..

As for next year, for us to be competing better than Sarsfields we'd need a fully committed bunch of players. Otherwise we'll end up on the end of some hammerings
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Dunloy v Shamrocks
St. John v Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:17:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2018, 07:46:35 PM
Dunloy v Shamrocks
St. John v Dall

One in Belfast?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2018, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle

Surely Ballymena is the venue for games between city & North Antrim teams ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle

19 miles to ballymena from Cushendall, now unless Corrigan has moved recently then it's not the middle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2018, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle

19 miles to ballymena from Cushendall, now unless Corrigan has moved recently then it's not the middle

Where in Belfast? Lamh Dhearg?  Creggan worth a shout maybe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2018, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle

19 miles to ballymena from Cushendall, now unless Corrigan has moved recently then it's not the middle

Where in Belfast? Lamh Dhearg?  Creggan worth a shout maybe?

Sarsfields have a stand! Parking probably a big problem but the Westies could bus it! Creggan is a great shout in fairness, I'm sure though that the Johnnies will put an argument for a Belfast venue as the final will be in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
25 Minutes at least, its not exactly Motorway ffs
35 minutes from Belfast
County Chairman and assistant treasurer from St Johns..so it will be in Belfast

I just think it should be in Ballymena. But as I said, a far bigger crowd will go to matches in North Antrim, i'd be saying the same if it was Dunloy or Loughgiel.
Anyway it doesnt really affect the match, I just think its common sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
25 Minutes at least, its not exactly Motorway ffs
35 minutes from Belfast
County Chairman and assistant treasurer from St Johns..so it will be in Belfast

I just think it should be in Ballymena. But as I said, a far bigger crowd will go to matches in North Antrim, i'd be saying the same if it was Dunloy or Loughgiel.
Anyway it doesnt really affect the match, I just think its common sense.

Plenty of siege mentality stuff coming out, county bashing refereeing bashing, venue bashing! Very strange, never heard the Dall be like this before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 17, 2018, 08:58:08 PM
Why does the Match have to be in Belfast!! Cushendall played Rossa In Corrigan 2 years ago and there where more City Gaels in the bar watching the Celtic match!! For Atmosphere, Better Venue it should be in Dunloy. The last match between these 2 teams produced a classic and the County made a fortune. The bear pit has no real parking space, the pitch is grand, but personally I don't enjoy looking through a keep net.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:45:33 PM
25 Minutes at least, its not exactly Motorway ffs
35 minutes from Belfast
County Chairman and assistant treasurer from St Johns..so it will be in Belfast

I just think it should be in Ballymena. But as I said, a far bigger crowd will go to matches in North Antrim, i'd be saying the same if it was Dunloy or Loughgiel.
Anyway it doesnt really affect the match, I just think its common sense.

Plenty of siege mentality stuff coming out, county bashing refereeing bashing, venue bashing! Very strange, never heard the Dall be like this before
It's not siege mentality at all. It wouldn't matter a difference  to the the result at all, but for people all over the county wanting to watch the match I dont think the likely venue of Lamh Dhearg is a good place to hold the crowd you could get elsewhere.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2018, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 17, 2018, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Probably will be   :-\, even though you'd get twice the crowd in North Antrim and better venues.

Ballymena is right in the middle

19 miles to ballymena from Cushendall, now unless Corrigan has moved recently then it's not the middle

Where in Belfast? Lamh Dhearg?  Creggan worth a shout maybe?

Sarsfields have a stand! Parking probably a big problem but the Westies could bus it! Creggan is a great shout in fairness, I'm sure though that the Johnnies will put an argument for a Belfast venue as the final will be in Ballycastle

Parking is a disaster in the Bear Pit. Could be a double header in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 09:22:09 PM
One Saturday
One Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 09:25:56 PM
Well as long as our game against Creggan is in Belfast with a Belfast ref  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
As long as he applies the rules of the game properly it doesn't matter where they are from.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 17, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
As long as he applies the rules of the game properly it doesn't matter where they are from.

Jesus lads give it a rest, the gurning is getting embarrassing now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 17, 2018, 09:40:10 PM
What??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
naw lads not in Dunloy, ill not get to see the bloody start of the game cause ill be stuck down the road on car park duty! lol

Im making a guess that our game will be in Ballycastle?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 08:41:01 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 18, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
naw lads not in Dunloy, ill not get to see the bloody start of the game cause ill be stuck down the road on car park duty! lol

Im making a guess that our game will be in Ballycastle?

Cushendall St John's in Dunloy
Dunloy Loughgiel in Ballycastle/ Cushendall

Harsh reality is that outside of Corrigan there isnt another hurling pitch in Belfast capable of hosting it.

These are one of the three show piece games of the year and they deserve to be played in a venue which is suitable to that, regardless of where that may be geographically.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:59:34 AM
MR2 the only thing embarrassing here is the fact that an experienced ref took it on himself to apply a higher & lower standard to 2 teams playing in the same game game. Maybe you were at the game on sat?? If so then perhaps you would give your analysis of how the ref performed?? & maybe ease the "gurning".  Also heres a roll play for you. A cdall player gets deliberately struck twice on separate occassions. The ref takes no action. On the third occassion he gets struck again but this time he deliberately strikes back. What action should an experienced ref take at this point??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 18, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:59:34 AM
MR2 the only thing embarrassing here is the fact that an experienced ref took it on himself to apply a higher & lower standard to 2 teams playing in the same game game. Maybe you were at the game on sat?? If so then perhaps you would give your analysis of how the ref performed?? & maybe ease the "gurning".  Also heres a roll play for you. A cdall player gets deliberately struck twice on separate occassions. The ref takes no action. On the third occassion he gets struck again but this time he deliberately strikes back. What action should an experienced ref take at this point??

MR2 was the ref!!
The 2 senior semi finals should be a double header on the Sunday and the junior and intermediate finals a double header on the Saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 18, 2018, 11:35:34 AM
Anytime ive seen MR2 ref, or indeed had him as a ref hes always been fair and ive never seen him 'apply different rules to different teams' wasnt at the game at the weekend so cant comment on his performance but id safely say any calls were made due to what he seen and not to try and make a game of it.

Also, no offence Auld Stock but i think you knew fine rightly MR2 was the ref, i think you wrote your message intentionally to have a pop at him which i think is bad form on a forum
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
Mac 23 you will see in my first post that i said i had never heard anyone previously say he was a poor ref, which implies he is a good one. For the record i didnt know he was the ref on sat but now i do is it fair to ask him as you say did he genuinely not see 3 deliberate strikes & a hurl been thrown in the air in an attempt to block the ball???
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 12:57:53 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
Mac 23 you will see in my first post that i said i had never heard anyone previously say he was a poor ref, which implies he is a good one. For the record i didnt know he was the ref on sat but now i do is it fair to ask him as you say did he genuinely not see 3 deliberate strikes & a hurl been thrown in the air in an attempt to block the ball???
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it

Auld stock, think you are out of line here.

I think Cushendall players and management are big enough and old enough now to take those incidents on the chin and walk away with a 25+ victory.

This is supposed to senior championship hurling and you are gurning over a few incidents in a dead rubber match, any of the lads hurt? Unable to take part in the rest of the championship?

Any referee or linesman that sees a deliberate stick with a hurl on an opponent and its going to result in a red card. Obviously in this case that didnt happen so I am going to take it that none of the incidents you are reffering too were in this category. So I am happy to believe that these were missed instead of some mythical bias that you are trying to allude too.

Any way - semi final time - time to move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
Mac 23 you will see in my first post that i said i had never heard anyone previously say he was a poor ref, which implies he is a good one. For the record i didnt know he was the ref on sat but now i do is it fair to ask him as you say did he genuinely not see 3 deliberate strikes & a hurl been thrown in the air in an attempt to block the ball???
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it

I'll humour you Auld Stock, the player sent off was gripping 2 visors off players at the side of the pitch near the supporters after I'd blown for a foul against the same Sarsfield player.. He'd have got a yellow for the first foul but lost the plot and he ended up doing what he did and that happens.
And a more experienced referee than me was doing the line where it happened, and he called it at the time also as spot on, but hey you know best

You'd mentioned the player throwing the stick in the air, I shouted to all involve play on, its called advantage and had he touched the ball I'd have naturally brought play back, (Cushendall won the ball, it was played forward resulting in a score) the Cushendall lads wanted him booked but you really need to learn the rules first on that one before mouthing off..

As for the other incident in the first half again funny enough near the supporters I spoke to the lines man as I didn't see it and asked him, maybe you didn't see me go over to him but I did ask.

There were other times that I noted players on both sides and booked a Cushendall man for hitting a player on the head with his stick, by your assessment he should have been sent off, or you didnt see it also as its been missed in your previous post.

The goal keeper threw his stick while trying to 'block' the scorer, I noted him and let him know what he did, again probably another incident that you missed, which begs the question, were you at the match?

This is Championship, whether you played or not in the past means nothing to me or any other ref, Sarsfield's went about their business and the referee dealt with all the players from both teams in the correct manner..

If a team is a 1000 points up it makes no difference a ref won't make it 'easier' for another team because of it, It has to be a foul for the ref to get involved. The team losing generally gives away the most fouls, that happened on Saturday. I was actually told by the Sarsfields players that I was 'sucking up' to the Cushendall team, the mind boggles

All referee's call it, as they see it and that's life, if you think you can do better then take it up. You calling me a cheat while hiding behind a keyboard is very brave of you, oh wait it's not brave at all, trolling most definitely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
Mac 23 you will see in my first post that i said i had never heard anyone previously say he was a poor ref, which implies he is a good one. For the record i didnt know he was the ref on sat but now i do is it fair to ask him as you say did he genuinely not see 3 deliberate strikes & a hurl been thrown in the air in an attempt to block the ball???
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it

If you want to comment on referees & make a much more effective contribution, why not sign up with the county as a refereeing advisor & do it properly / fairly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 02:14:36 PM
Thanks for that MR2.  just couple points  i never mentioned you booking the cdall plauer because i believe you made the right call so why would i bring it up. Just for ref my understanding is that throwing a hurl is a yellow card offence??  I stand to be corrected no problem if its not.lastly where would i sign up to be a refereeing auditor??  I like the sound of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 02:14:36 PM
Thanks for that MR2.  just couple points  i never mentioned you booking the cdall plauer because i believe you made the right call so why would i bring it up. Just for ref my understanding is that throwing a hurl is a yellow card offence??  I stand to be corrected no problem if its not.lastly where would i sign up to be a refereeing auditor??  I like the sound of that.

Its not a yellow card unless he throws it at the player while trying to hook him could be a note to, and if the ref thinks that he threw it where it could have injured a player (dangerous use of a hurl) it can be a red..

In the case on Saturday he didnt throw it either, he tossed it vertically up, no one other than himself he could have hurt, ironically had he hit himself I could have booked him for dangerous use of a hurl  :o

You can ask your club sec and they will let CCC know that your are interested, also reading the rules book would be a help before calling me a cheat or unable to ref games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 02:29:47 PM
Thanks again regarding the rules. Now that you have replied it will be easy for anyone who was at the game to read what you have written, marry that up with what they saw & make their own informed opinion.good luck in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 03:39:49 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 02:14:36 PM
Thanks for that MR2.  just couple points  i never mentioned you booking the cdall plauer because i believe you made the right call so why would i bring it up. Just for ref my understanding is that throwing a hurl is a yellow card offence??  I stand to be corrected no problem if its not.lastly where would i sign up to be a refereeing auditor??  I like the sound of that.

I don't think it's quite the job that you think it is....it's generally meant to be a constructive role & a tool for improvement....if it's unimportant criticism & having a go you want to go in for, here is probably the right place.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
I welcomed mr2 response.that doesnt mean i believe it all.i dont. On the stick throwing yes i have no problem being corrected there. Im glad he responded as i had my say, he defended his position & had his so now anyone at the game can read his account & make up their own minds.some will believe his version , others wont & that is anyones right. I never said it was an easy job & would deny your your question do i only want unimportant criticism. So drawing a line under once again well done mr2 for  explaining his position.personally i would welcome any platform where refs  do make themselves accountable . Let others make their own mind up.i have
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 05:10:55 PM
They put in their match report & text in the final score. That's the end of the "accountability".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 05:29:49 PM
And IMO therein lies the problem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 06:00:22 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 05:29:49 PM
And IMO therein lies the problem.
Would the problem not lie with not knowing the rules and shouting rubbish from the line? Or not respecting the referee? I'm only too willing to judge my game afterwards, I make a mistake here and there, never as many as the manager or players on the pitch but hey there ya go. 

The ref is part of the game, without it you won't have games to watch and grumble about.

It be fair to say that all the refs know the rules better than you  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
Nope. I thought i had nailed this. You made a detailed response, that doesnt mean that it is fact. I didnt believe most of what you said.that doesnt make me right either. Once again in glad you took time to respond & anyone who watched the game can now look at my version & your response & make up their own mind. Im more than happy with that. People said you wouldnt respond .i was confident you would & whats more i practically dictated your response.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
Nope. I thought i had nailed this. You made a detailed response, that doesnt mean that it is fact. I didnt believe most of what you said.that doesnt make me right either. Once again in glad you took time to respond & anyone who watched the game can now look at my version & your response & make up their own mind. Im more than happy with that. People said you wouldnt respond .i was confident you would & whats more i practically dictated your response.  ;)

So did know I was the ref but said you didn't know! What a nob! So you don't know the rules, that's why you asked? But believe your own rules?

Jesus lads someone have a word with this clampit, I'm actually thinking he's not from Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
Wrong again.i didnt know you were the ref.when i daid people said you wouldnt reply......... people said that today to me. Look its quite simple you want to keep this goin on here well fill your boots i'll be ready with a reply. If you dont then thats fine. You're quite a needy person. Why not just accept everyone doesnt agree with you. Me im not that bothered. Its all here. People will make their own minds up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 06:38:27 PM
Obviously you lack basic intelligence, I pulled you on your rant, you didn't agree with it, even after the explanation based on the rules, you've called me a cheat and berated my performance.

If trolling is your thing and personal abuse while hiding behind the computer, then carry on. You are beyond a normal debate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 18, 2018, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
Nope. I thought i had nailed this. You made a detailed response, that doesnt mean that it is fact. I didnt believe most of what you said.that doesnt make me right either. Once again in glad you took time to respond & anyone who watched the game can now look at my version & your response & make up their own mind. Im more than happy with that. People said you wouldnt respond .i was confident you would & whats more i practically dictated your response.  ;)

So did know I was the ref but said you didn't know! What a nob! So you don't know the rules, that's why you asked? But believe your own rules?

Jesus lads someone have a word with this clampit, I'm actually thinking he's not from Cushendall

I think its pretty obvious to everyone he knew you were the ref.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
Only 63 posts, but I see there's some previous form in respect of giving off about referees, going back a lot of years too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mickey Linden on September 18, 2018, 07:16:12 PM
MR2 dont be worrying about coming on here trying to defend urself from nonsense. Anyone can see what this. Congratulations on having both the ability and balls to ref at that level. This forum def better for having the insight of a senior ref on it even tho people may not always agree with ur opinion its refreshing to see a ref who can have a proper dicussion about all things gaa related.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 18, 2018, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on September 18, 2018, 07:16:12 PM
MR2 dont be worrying about coming on here trying to defend urself from nonsense. Anyone can see what this. Congratulations on having both the ability and balls to ref at that level. This forum def better for having the insight of a senior ref on it even tho people may not always agree with ur opinion its refreshing to see a ref who can have a proper dicussion about all things gaa related.

It is refreshing to see this. Keep up the good work MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 18, 2018, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it

So if MR explains you will take his word & let the matter rest....Joke Auld Stock, you knew the ref everyone on here knows.   I was at the Game and am a neutral, personally i thought the Ref had a good game let it flow, the way we have been asking for games to be ref'd in Ulster. Was it the refs fault why u lost the U16 game on sunday   ;).

Well Done MR2 Keep it going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 18, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
#istandwithMR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
#istandwithMR2

Feck aff  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
#istandwithMR2

Feck aff  ;D

"How shall we feck aff, O Lord?"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
#istandwithMR2

Feck aff  ;D

"How shall we feck aff, O Lord?"

You've all been naughty boys!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
Bravo. I applauded him myself for his input & it is to be welcomed. I simply dont agree with it.no crime there. If all you inspector closeaus on here read through the messages earlier today you will see that 2 posters on this board identified mr2 as the ref, neither of which were me. Then with mr2 "okay i'll humour you" post was it not confirmed?? Anyhow no it wasnt the refs fault we lost u16 game on sunday just as it wasnt his fault we won on sat. He has given his side & i dont agree with it & TBH i dont give a rats ass who disagrees with me. So everyone who knew i def knew who the ref was...............
Drumroll for dramatic effect.........i didnt
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 18, 2018, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 18, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
#istandwithMR2

Feck aff  ;D

"How shall we feck aff, O Lord?"

You've all been naughty boys!

They may well have been, but is that a black, yellow or red card offence? Did the ref just ignore it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:00:17 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
Bravo. I applauded him myself for his input & it is to be welcomed. I simply dont agree with it.no crime there. If all you inspector closeaus on here read through the messages earlier today you will see that 2 posters on this board identified mr2 as the ref, neither of which were me. Then with mr2 "okay i'll humour you" post was it not confirmed?? Anyhow no it wasnt the refs fault we lost u16 game on sunday just as it wasnt his fault we won on sat. He has given his side & i dont agree with it & TBH i dont give a rats ass who disagrees with me. So everyone who knew i def knew who the ref was...............
Drumroll for dramatic effect.........i didnt

No you used the word cheat and never ref again, but carry on with your schizophrenia
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:06:15 PM
Nope i said should not be allowed to ref another cship game at any grade. Do the league if you like.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:06:15 PM
Nope i said should not be allowed to ref another cship game at any grade. Do the league if you like.

Now you've taken your post off the thread, well done the tablets have kicked in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:28:48 PM
Funny i was just about to ask you what happened there. My posts pre today have disappeared from the thread. No listen carefully i did not remove any of them!!!  Your "okay i'll humour you" post where you gave a detailed breakdown on your performance has also disappeared????  Are you sayin as admin of this thread you know nothing about that???
The plot thickens. For the record i am happy for all messages to be reinstated. Perhaps other hands at work here.perhaps a pre cursor to me gettin my collar felt or if a man was suspicuous enough maybe powers that be dont want your version open to question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:40:59 PM
The only one to take their own posts off are you  :D

Jesus you're getting worse by each post
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
Listen all i can say again is that i categorically didnt delete any posts. Even i knew how i definitely wouldnt have done.are you saying that i deleted your posts as well. Lol expect a call from top brass. Afain im more than happy for all my posts to be reinstated.what bout you??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
Listen all i can say again is that i categorically didnt delete any posts. Even i knew how i definitely wouldnt have done.are you saying that i deleted your posts as well. Lol expect a call from top brass. Afain im more than happy for all my posts to be reinstated.what bout you??

Mine are all there ya numpty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 09:56:36 PM
What page is your "i'll humour you" rant??  I must be a numpty i cant find it. So again ive nithing to fear.i want all these posts uo here for everyone to see. I didnt delete anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 12:12:42 PM
Mac 23 you will see in my first post that i said i had never heard anyone previously say he was a poor ref, which implies he is a good one. For the record i didnt know he was the ref on sat but now i do is it fair to ask him as you say did he genuinely not see 3 deliberate strikes & a hurl been thrown in the air in an attempt to block the ball???
If he says he didnt see those incidents then i have to take his word for it & let the matter rest. However if he didnt see these incidents it only completely backs up my previous comments that he should not ref any further cship games this year as unfortunately he simply isnt up to it

I'll humour you Auld Stock, the player sent off was gripping 2 visors off players at the side of the pitch near the supporters after I'd blown for a foul against the same Sarsfield player.. He'd have got a yellow for the first foul but lost the plot and he ended up doing what he did and that happens.
And a more experienced referee than me was doing the line where it happened, and he called it at the time also as spot on, but hey you know best

You'd mentioned the player throwing the stick in the air, I shouted to all involve play on, its called advantage and had he touched the ball I'd have naturally brought play back, (Cushendall won the ball, it was played forward resulting in a score) the Cushendall lads wanted him booked but you really need to learn the rules first on that one before mouthing off..

As for the other incident in the first half again funny enough near the supporters I spoke to the lines man as I didn't see it and asked him, maybe you didn't see me go over to him but I did ask.

There were other times that I noted players on both sides and booked a Cushendall man for hitting a player on the head with his stick, by your assessment he should have been sent off, or you didnt see it also as its been missed in your previous post.

The goal keeper threw his stick while trying to 'block' the scorer, I noted him and let him know what he did, again probably another incident that you missed, which begs the question, were you at the match?

This is Championship, whether you played or not in the past means nothing to me or any other ref, Sarsfield's went about their business and the referee dealt with all the players from both teams in the correct manner..

If a team is a 1000 points up it makes no difference a ref won't make it 'easier' for another team because of it, It has to be a foul for the ref to get involved. The team losing generally gives away the most fouls, that happened on Saturday. I was actually told by the Sarsfields players that I was 'sucking up' to the Cushendall team, the mind boggles

All referee's call it, as they see it and that's life, if you think you can do better then take it up. You calling me a cheat while hiding behind a keyboard is very brave of you, oh wait it's not brave at all, trolling most definitely

You didn't look too hard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Thats great. As admin i am sayin tou are responsible for removing mine. I said before i have absolutely no reason to remove my posts. As admin is there a recycle bin where discarded posts are kept?? I never deleted them & def wouldnt especially if i was told to.believe me or not i dont care
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Thats great. As admin i am sayin tou are responsible for removing mine. I said before i have absolutely no reason to remove my posts. As admin is there a recycle bin where discarded posts are kept?? I never deleted them & def wouldnt especially if i was told to.believe me or not i dont care

I'm not admin you dope! MR is, not MR2.. that account was hacked funny enough by a Cushendall man ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Lol. I can barely use a phone now im hacking accounts. Did tou know i also posioned the skripals???  Lol.   Speak to your mate & get them to put it back up. This is gettin tiresome. Denying something i have been defending all day. Get him to edit it & re post if he likes. Ive never been in a real saga before. I feel violated lool
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Lol. I can barely use a phone now im hacking accounts. Did tou know i also posioned the skripals???  Lol.   Speak to your mate & get them to put it back up. This is gettin tiresome. Denying something i have been defending all day. Get him to edit it & re post if he likes. Ive never been in a real saga before. I feel violated lool

I'm using this great proverb.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 18, 2018, 10:44:50 PM
Auld stock get back in your box. Your input is neither useful nor fair.

Brave man coming on here and openly slating a referee while you hide behind your keyboard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 19, 2018, 05:38:03 AM
Said the man slating another poster from his keyboard!!!!
ME has done me a great service.by removing my post he has siolidified my original point. Rules being applied differently to people.thanks for that. Now excuse me while i clinb back into my box
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 19, 2018, 08:29:58 AM
Most Online Today: 272. Most Online Ever: 779 (January 10, 2011, 05:47:52 PM)

It's little wonder that this place has lost roughly 500 participants from the peak.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on September 19, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Lol. I can barely use a phone now im hacking accounts. Did tou know i also posioned the skripals???  Lol.   Speak to your mate & get them to put it back up. This is gettin tiresome. Denying something i have been defending all day. Get him to edit it & re post if he likes. Ive never been in a real saga before. I feel violated lool

I'm using this great proverb.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

;)

MR2 you'd be better saving your breath, you're not gonna get through this idiots thick skull. As someone who has been in the middle with you there, and who has done the line for you, I have nothing but the utmost respect not only for you as a ref, but also as someone who has had the guts to come on here where most know who you are, which in itself leaves you open for attacks by people like this clown. The fact you are having to teach people the rules, even though they (he) thinks they know them better than you, highlights one of the major problems within our games. I applaud you for standing your ground and explaining your decisions, and you were 100% right in saying that refs make mistakes, just not as much as the players. Unfortunately as a ref you cannot, and will not, win. You'd be better leaving it stand with this boy, he can't be turned no matter how wrong he is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 19, 2018, 09:37:14 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 19, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: auld stock on September 18, 2018, 10:14:23 PM
Lol. I can barely use a phone now im hacking accounts. Did tou know i also posioned the skripals???  Lol.   Speak to your mate & get them to put it back up. This is gettin tiresome. Denying something i have been defending all day. Get him to edit it & re post if he likes. Ive never been in a real saga before. I feel violated lool

I'm using this great proverb.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

;)

MR2 you'd be better saving your breath, you're not gonna get through this idiots thick skull. As someone who has been in the middle with you there, and who has done the line for you, I have nothing but the utmost respect not only for you as a ref, but also as someone who has had the guts to come on here where most know who you are, which in itself leaves you open for attacks by people like this clown. The fact you are having to teach people the rules, even though they (he) thinks they know them better than you, highlights one of the major problems within our games. I applaud you for standing your ground and explaining your decisions, and you were 100% right in saying that refs make mistakes, just not as much as the players. Unfortunately as a ref you cannot, and will not, win. You'd be better leaving it stand with this boy, he can't be turned no matter how wrong he is.

I think you're wrong on the highlighted bit, AS was pulled on his shite, realised he had got it wrong and has tried ever since to save some face, the I don't care what anyone thinks line is standard procedure for someone who's pride has been hurt, especially when they care enough to say it numerous times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 19, 2018, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 19, 2018, 08:29:58 AM
Most Online Today: 272. Most Online Ever: 779 (January 10, 2011, 05:47:52 PM)

It's little wonder that this place has lost roughly 500 participants from the peak.
To be fair that was the day Michaela Harte was killed so the rolling average is much lower than that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 19, 2018, 09:52:03 AM
Just to clarify. I got the throwing stick rule wrong & was happy to be corrected on it. The 3 deliberate strikes i absolutely wont pull back on. My pride is very much intact & maybe im insecure but i really dont mind what other people think. People have &:are allowed to have opposing opinions. Hell what a crazy concept!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 19, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
People having different opinions on any  topic is fine. We can all have a debate on it, maybe change our minds, or have our original opinion reinforced.  However,  you deliberately set out to play the man, in a fairly nasty way too....a volunteer, after all, who gives up his time to enable games to get played. There's a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 19, 2018, 11:46:03 AM
Well said.thats your opinion & by god you're entitled to have it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
a cert you think?? i've it tight, very tight in fact, i think Dall by the minimum.   Dunloy loughgiel game depends a lot on loughgiel forwards.  if they show there true potential i think they've a great chance.
  in other news i see MMS is forward for the antrim job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Dall prob be favs to make the final. Our game can go either way on the day. not much between the sides each time we have met in the league and id expect it to be the same again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 19, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
a cert you think?? i've it tight, very tight in fact, i think Dall by the minimum.   Dunloy loughgiel game depends a lot on loughgiel forwards.  if they show there true potential i think they've a great chance.
  in other news i see MMS is forward for the antrim job.

Thought he was taking sneil? Did sambo & woody stand down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 19, 2018, 04:24:35 PM
seen there that sambo had stood down tho i cant remember what paper it was had it in it?

can someone confirm or deny that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 19, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/County/Meath/Article/Index/289334
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 19, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Sambo and Woody confirmed they standing down at Monday nights county board meeting. Michael McShane was the only name nominated.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2018/09/19/news/slaughtneil-manager-michael-mcshane-nominated-for-antrim-hurling-position-1436370/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 19, 2018, 07:09:08 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 19, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Sambo and Woody confirmed they standing down at Monday nights county board meeting. Michael McShane was the only name nominated.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2018/09/19/news/slaughtneil-manager-michael-mcshane-nominated-for-antrim-hurling-position-1436370/

It would be a tough gig for Brian Cody. We need to lower our expectations as supporters IMO. MMS will do a good job but let's have realistic targets for the next few seasons rather than getting carried away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 19, 2018, 07:44:45 PM
Why not MMS? He's been very unlucky with S'neil being a dual club, seems a committed Gael who's passionate about hurling. Was hoping for more interest as Antrim were very unlucky in a lot of games last year..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 19, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
Didn't Dunloy beat loughgiel every time they've played this season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
Didn't Dunloy beat loughgiel every time they've played this season?

Yeah by 2 points in one occasion and 4 the other
Watson is back now so not much in it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2018, 07:10:02 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
Didn't Dunloy beat loughgiel every time they've played this season?

Yeah by 2 points in one occasion and 4 the other
Watson is back now so not much in it

I was at the first game in Loughgiel. I thought Loughgiel had to work much harder to get scores and in my opinion Dunloy had another gear left in them. Didn't see the 2nd game so can't comment. Whoever comes out of that semi final will be strong favourites for the final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 20, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
second game i felt we got a goal at a vital time in the game to get in front. if im honest i thought we were lucky to win it.

A bit like that last league game between ourselves in Dunloy. got a draw when we should of got beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2018, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 20, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
second game i felt we got a goal at a vital time in the game to get in front. if im honest i thought we were lucky to win it.

A bit like that last league game between ourselves in Dunloy. got a draw when we should of got beat.

A free dropped short at the death! Small margins
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 20, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 20, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
second game i felt we got a goal at a vital time in the game to get in front. if im honest i thought we were lucky to win it.

A bit like that last league game between ourselves in Dunloy. got a draw when we should of got beat.

My thoughts exactly, that last league  match v Dall we where lucky to get the draw. Mc Manus missed an easy free at the death. Dall are the most improved team since last year and that's why even the bookies have them as favourites for the whole thing.
Like I said Dunloy v LG is 50/50 all day long and Dall is looking good for the whole thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 09:51:21 AM
League results mean nothing when it comes to championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 20, 2018, 09:55:25 AM
Anyone hear the venues for the SHC semi finals and the IHC / JHC finals?

The past few years the Intermediate and Junior finals have been played as a double header in Armoy on the Saturday.

Great venue and hopefully it will be the same this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2018, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 10:09:22 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 19, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 19, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 19, 2018, 12:38:34 PM
jesus i didn't miss much  ;D 
How's these two semi finals going to pan out?

Cushendall a cert

us and LG it's 50/50 going in league form between the two
Didn't Dunloy beat loughgiel every time they've played this season?

Yeah by 2 points in one occasion and 4 the other
Watson is back now so not much in it
he's injured  :o i think both semi finals have the makings of very tight games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 20, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
You know it's the business end of the championship when everyone is claiming their team wouldn't be considered favourites  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Cushendall most improved team? How exactly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on September 20, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Cushendall most improved team? How exactly?
they had the beating of a full strength Dunloy team with some of their main players missing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 03:34:47 PM
Dunloy wernt full strenght and in a game that meant nothing i wouldnt be taking too much away from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 20, 2018, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 03:34:47 PM
Dunloy wernt full strenght and in a game that meant nothing i wouldnt be taking too much away from it.

neither side were that night. that being said we were very poor that night and only for the fact so were Cdall we would of been beaten.

but its all shadow boxing for the real games coming up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 20, 2018, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 20, 2018, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 03:34:47 PM
Dunloy wernt full strenght and in a game that meant nothing i wouldnt be taking too much away from it.

neither side were that night. that being said we were very poor that night and only for the fact so were Cdall we would of been beaten.

but its all shadow boxing for the real games coming up.

Dunloy are the champions and have been the form team in the league as well. It might not rest easy with our resident Dunloy contingent but they'll have to accept the favorites tag for this years Volunteer Cup. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 20, 2018, 06:12:58 PM
Heres the facts. Cushendall have one foot in the final due to the draw. That makes them favourites. End of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2018, 06:25:57 PM
aye.  we're done. Dall or Dunloys to loose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 20, 2018, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 20, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Cushendall most improved team? How exactly?
they had the beating of a full strength Dunloy team with some of their main players missing

This
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 20, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 20, 2018, 06:25:57 PM
aye.  we're done. Dall or Dunloys to loose

You didn't here any dunloy posters discounting LG
Like I said it's 50/50
Would be shocked if the Dall don't win handy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 20, 2018, 11:12:07 PM
Dunloy are absolutely the favourites and rightly so, current league and county champions and unbeaten in 7 league/championship games against the teams that remain in the competition.

Why would anyone not want to be favourites, does losing hurt any less, do teams not try as hard?  I have no idea! My idea of favouritism is an assessment that if everyone plays to their absolute best, the favourite wins!

Dunloy will relish going in as favourites (albeit very marginal) it's a change from outsiders role we have performed the last 10 years.

Any one of the four teams can win this championship, next weekend promises to be a cracker!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 21, 2018, 09:46:20 AM
Quote from: maxpower on September 20, 2018, 11:12:07 PM
Dunloy are absolutely the favourites and rightly so, current league and county champions and unbeaten in 7 league/championship games against the teams that remain in the competition.

Why would anyone not want to be favourites, does losing hurt any less, do teams not try as hard?  I have no idea! My idea of favouritism is an assessment that if everyone plays to their absolute best, the favourite wins!

Dunloy will relish going in as favourites (albeit very marginal) it's a change from outsiders role we have performed the last 10 years.

Any one of the four teams can win this championship, next weekend promises to be a cracker!

I don't think so. St Johns aren't in that arena yet. Improving all the time but will be put away by Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 21, 2018, 11:10:40 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 20, 2018, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 20, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Cushendall most improved team? How exactly?
they had the beating of a full strength Dunloy team with some of their main players missing

i left that game against Cdall in the group game relieved to have got the win and disappointed in our performance.

If the shoe was on the other foot and it had of been us missing players and only have lost by 1 point against a full Cdall team id of been quietly very happy with that.

Our footballers are out this weekend in the championship and we have 6 starters from that Cdall game involved with it so its a fingers crossed job we dont lose anyone for the Lgeil game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 21, 2018, 04:07:33 PM
Cushendall v St. Johns Saturday 29th @ 4:30 in Dunloy
Loughgiel v Dunloy Sunday 30th @ 3:30 in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 21, 2018, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 21, 2018, 04:07:33 PM
Cushendall v St. Johns Saturday 29th @ 4:30 in Dunloy
Loughgiel v Dunloy Sunday 30th @ 3:30 in Ballycastle

Mouthwatering fixtures

I have no idea why some rank St John's as complete outsiders, gave Dunloy all they wanted in last years championship, 2 years ago had Cushendall to the pin of their collar and put up a very competitive display against Loughgiel in this years group stage.

They need a few things to go for them but they have the potential to win a championship!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 22, 2018, 05:06:55 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 21, 2018, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on September 21, 2018, 04:07:33 PM
Cushendall v St. Johns Saturday 29th @ 4:30 in Dunloy
Loughgiel v Dunloy Sunday 30th @ 3:30 in Ballycastle

Mouthwatering fixtures

I have no idea why some rank St John's as complete outsiders, gave Dunloy all they wanted in last years championship, 2 years ago had Cushendall to the pin of their collar and put up a very competitive display against Loughgiel in this years group stage.

They need a few things to go for them but they have the potential to win a championship!

We certainly are taking them very seriously after the scare they gave us a couple of years ago. They really should have beaten us and we went on to the All Ireland Final. They have a great panel of players who have won minor and under 21. They have the potential to step up to the next level and win a championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 23, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Division 2 relegation still not decided with Glenariffe beating Ballycastle last night - anyone of Glenariffe , Sarsfields and now tirnanog can go down with Armoy.

Seemed a strange result winning in Ballycastle, inflicting Ballycastles first defeat. But fair play to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2018, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 23, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Division 2 relegation still not decided with Glenariffe beating Ballycastle last night - anyone of Glenariffe , Sarsfields and now tirnanog can go down with Armoy.

Seemed a strange result winning in Ballycastle, inflicting Ballycastles first defeat. But fair play to them

Wouldn't say it's that strange, can't imagine the Ballycastle players have lifted a stick since their championship defeat, and that's assuming they had their normal full team out.

Anyone any idea what's happening with the points from the abandoned Sarsfields v Armoy game in the summer? Not scheduled to be replayed on the fixture list
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 23, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Did it even get abandoned? 60 minuted were played.

Quote from: Minder on September 23, 2018, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 23, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Division 2 relegation still not decided with Glenariffe beating Ballycastle last night - anyone of Glenariffe , Sarsfields and now tirnanog can go down with Armoy.

Seemed a strange result winning in Ballycastle, inflicting Ballycastles first defeat. But fair play to them

Wouldn't say it's that strange, can't imagine the Ballycastle players have lifted a stick since their championship defeat, and that's assuming they had their normal full team out.

Anyone any idea what's happening with the points from the abandoned Sarsfields v Armoy game in the summer? Not scheduled to be replayed on the fixture list
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2018, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 23, 2018, 11:29:48 AM
Division 2 relegation still not decided with Glenariffe beating Ballycastle last night - anyone of Glenariffe , Sarsfields and now tirnanog can go down with Armoy.

Seemed a strange result winning in Ballycastle, inflicting Ballycastles first defeat. But fair play to them

It's not at all strange; out of championship, league points, relagation teams locations - math not hard

Ps. Ballycastle will decide this year's champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 25, 2018, 10:06:19 AM
Any predictions for the weekend? I'm not going to predict our own game but the rest as follows:
Creggan v St. Galls - St. Galls by 5
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 4
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 25, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 25, 2018, 10:06:19 AM
Any predictions for the weekend? I'm not going to predict our own game but the rest as follows:
Creggan v St. Galls - St. Galls by 5
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 4
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 6.
St. Galls by 3, Dun by 4, Dunloy by 2 and allow me to predict the Dall match - win pulling up with 5 points to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on September 25, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
Creggan v St. Galls - Creggan 3
Cushendun v Glenarm - Cushendun by 10+
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 25, 2018, 03:23:07 PM
Creggan by 4
Cushendun by 2
Cushendall by 3
Dunloy by 5/6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 25, 2018, 05:55:06 PM
St Galls by 2
Cushendun by 6
Cushendall by 4
Dunloy by 3

Is Watson ruled out for Loughgiel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
apparently so but id say he will make an appearance at some stage of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 26, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
apparently so but id say he will make an appearance at some stage of the game.

Watson, McNaughton and N McGarry all potentially out through injury.

Foolish playing a challenge game a week before cship!

Dunloy going to blow holes in Loughgiel and make a massive statement (8+)


Likewise, Cushendall will go to town on St Johns (10+)!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 26, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
apparently so but id say he will make an appearance at some stage of the game.

Watson, McNaughton and N McGarry all potentially out through injury.

Foolish playing a challenge game a week before cship!

Dunloy going to blow holes in Loughgiel and make a massive statement (8+)


Likewise, Cushendall will go to town on St Johns (10+)!

We've had this will he won't he stuff with Liam Watson before. I'd imagine we'll see him at some stage. Any games I've seen loughgiel this year Neilly hasn't been playing. Young McNaughton has been superb any time I've watched him. He'd be the biggest miss of the 3 of them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 26, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 26, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
apparently so but id say he will make an appearance at some stage of the game.

Watson, McNaughton and N McGarry all potentially out through injury.

Foolish playing a challenge game a week before cship!

Dunloy going to blow holes in Loughgiel and make a massive statement (8+)


Likewise, Cushendall will go to town on St Johns (10+)!

We've had this will he won't he stuff with Liam Watson before. I'd imagine we'll see him at some stage. Any games I've seen loughgiel this year Neilly hasn't been playing. Young McNaughton has been superb any time I've watched him. He'd be the biggest miss of the 3 of them.

The game won't depend on what winker does (if anything). Lgiel need to be more concerned about how their entire forward unit perform to have a chance of upsetting dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 26, 2018, 03:05:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 26, 2018, 03:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 26, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 26, 2018, 08:51:05 AM
apparently so but id say he will make an appearance at some stage of the game.

Watson, McNaughton and N McGarry all potentially out through injury.

Foolish playing a challenge game a week before cship!

Dunloy going to blow holes in Loughgiel and make a massive statement (8+)


Likewise, Cushendall will go to town on St Johns (10+)!

We've had this will he won't he stuff with Liam Watson before. I'd imagine we'll see him at some stage. Any games I've seen loughgiel this year Neilly hasn't been playing. Young McNaughton has been superb any time I've watched him. He'd be the biggest miss of the 3 of them.

James is a quality hurler in the making. Hes really come on this year and you can see that in his performances
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

You any money on those 2 results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 26, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Quite a difference of opinion by the bookies on the big game
Paddy Power going 4/6 Dunloy vs 6/4 Loughgiel
Boylesports going 2/5 Dunloy vs 2/1 Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

You any money on those 2 results?
it's a value bet and it won't be as straight forward as some may think  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 27, 2018, 02:19:12 AM
I was impressed with Dunloy most times I've seen them. They are well coached and make good use of the ball, would be my favorites to win it out right. Very young team that could put a good run together for a couple of years.       
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 27, 2018, 07:10:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

You any money on those 2 results?
it's a value bet and it won't be as straight forward as some may think  ;)

Post a picture of your docket big balls  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2018, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 27, 2018, 07:10:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

You any money on those 2 results?
it's a value bet and it won't be as straight forward as some may think  ;)

Post a picture of your docket big balls  ;D ;D ;D

It will be like any LG vs Dunloy match, there wont be much in it either way. Form as they say seems to go out the window in these games and it comes down to the day. Conditions could have a big bearing on it too.

Expect St John's to be competitive but ultimately unsuccessful when it comes to the business end of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 27, 2018, 10:14:44 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 27, 2018, 07:10:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 26, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4

You any money on those 2 results?
it's a value bet and it won't be as straight forward as some may think  ;)

Post a picture of your docket big balls  ;D ;D ;D
what's not to believe?  i can't see how anyone sees these as plain and simple results. maybe am wrong but i cant remember two semi finals with what in my opinion are down to on the day. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2018, 02:19:35 PM
Big lead for creggan. Wonder is there much wind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 29, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
There is a very strong wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
That goal might make the difference then. Only following on twitter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 29, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
St Galls win by 2 points
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4
5 up 7mins left.Whats another beaten docket ::)  could be a bit of talk regarding a ref incoming  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2018, 07:04:10 PM
A load of people should of went to spec savers...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 07:31:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4
5 up 7mins left.Whats another beaten docket ::)  could be a bit of talk regarding a ref incoming  :o

So even you noticed it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 07:31:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 29, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 26, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
St. john's by 2
Loughgiel by 4
5 up 7mins left.Whats another beaten docket ::)  could be a bit of talk regarding a ref incoming  :o

So even you noticed it?

????
Was there and guess i missed it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2018, 07:38:55 PM
Youse are all very cryptic here lads. What happened? I was following it on Twitter and they said there was a disturbance in or near the dugouts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
Hard not to see it.

Strange decision by Johnston to drop the ball in instead of take the point late in the second half. Awful lot of wides by the Dall in the second half especially.

Any ideas when the replay will be with the Johnnie's in the football next weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2018, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2018, 07:38:55 PM
Youse are all very cryptic here lads. What happened? I was following it on Twitter and they said there was a disturbance in or near the dugouts.

Nothing to see here Timmy.. move along please  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
Indirect Free couldnt score direct from it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
Hard not to see it.

Strange decision by Johnston to drop the ball in instead of take the point late in the second half. Awful lot of wides by the Dall in the second half especially.

Any ideas when the replay will be with the Johnnie's in the football next weekend?

I had thought semi finals went to extra time in an attempt to avoid the exact scenario St. Johns will now be up against next weekend. I remember last year Ahoghill were made play a championship hurling match against us in Ballymena on Saturday and football on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
Hard not to see it.

Strange decision by Johnston to drop the ball in instead of take the point late in the second half. Awful lot of wides by the Dall in the second half especially.

Any ideas when the replay will be with the Johnnie's in the football next weekend?

I had thought semi finals went to extra time in an attempt to avoid the exact scenario St. Johns will now be up against next weekend. I remember last year Ahoghill were made play a championship hurling match against us in Ballymena on Saturday and football on Sunday.

You and the rest of the crowd no one seemed to move until the players started shaking hands, it's a bad job when everyone's guessing what going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
Indirect Free couldnt score direct from it

?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 29, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
I heard a Cdall supporter jumped the wire and it went from there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2018, 09:01:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 29, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
I heard a Cdall supporter jumped the wire and it went from there

I heard the St. John's manager threw punches at a player. Also heard never tell lies, makes the baby Jesus cry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
Indirect Free couldnt score direct from it

?

My understanding is if play is stopped because of a serious Injury or incident the team that had possession gets the free but can't score from it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 29, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
I heard a Cdall supporter jumped the wire and it went from there

Are you really going with that? Seriously?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 29, 2018, 10:02:26 PM
I tried that 2 weeks ago. Nobody liked my dancing around. I'll try a different tactic this time. What does neil mc manus have to do to get a free??  Cant wait to hear everyones version of what happened. For me cdall will have nothing to fear when the video hits the county board decision makers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
Indirect Free couldnt score direct from it

?

My understanding is if play is stopped because of a serious Injury or incident the team that had possession gets the free but can't score from it

I'm probably out of date,  but when I was reffing & stopped playing immediately for an injury, I threw the ball in to restart. Can anyone update me with correct decision?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2018, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 29, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 29, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
I heard a Cdall supporter jumped the wire and it went from there

Are you really going with that? Seriously?
Well it's what he heard (presumably from someone at the match). Why don't you clear it up for everyone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 10:36:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 29, 2018, 10:25:24 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 29, 2018, 09:41:32 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 29, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on September 29, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
Indirect Free couldnt score direct from it

?

My understanding is if play is stopped because of a serious Injury or incident the team that had possession gets the free but can't score from it

I'm probably out of date,  but when I was reffing & stopped playing immediately for an injury, I threw the ball in to restart. Can anyone update me with correct decision?
You're out of date. He's right.

I think it's still a hop ball if there's no clear possession
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Credit to St Johns, they were hungry, hunted in packs and were no doubt the better team on the day. 

However, all that being said, even on a bad day for Cushendall - they're still in it.

A new set of officials for the replay will be very much in Cushendall's favour as well!

On to the new era today, Dunloy will be very much looking forward to 3.30pm today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on September 30, 2018, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Credit to St Johns, they were hungry, hunted in packs and were no doubt the better team on the day. 

However, all that being said, even on a bad day for Cushendall - they're still in it.

A new set of officials for the replay will be very much in Cushendall's favour as well!

On to the new era today, Dunloy will be very much looking forward to 3.30pm today.

Why would cdall be happy with a new set of officials- he didn't favour any team , I thought he did a good job ; Missed a few but kept the game going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 30, 2018, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on September 30, 2018, 08:07:49 AM
Credit to St Johns, they were hungry, hunted in packs and were no doubt the better team on the day. 

However, all that being said, even on a bad day for Cushendall - they're still in it.

A new set of officials for the replay will be very much in Cushendall's favour as well!

On to the new era today, Dunloy will be very much looking forward to 3.30pm today.

I thought St. Johns get some handy enough frees but you couldn't attribute any blame to the referee for the way we played. Came 2nd most of the game but thankfully we had a couple of subs capable of coming on and changing the game. Thought Ciaran Johnson was superb for St. Johns. Graffin was excellent for us as was Ryan McCambridge. Won't matter who referees the next day, if we hurl like that again we'll be out.
Best of luck to the neighbors Cushendun in their final. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 03:51:51 PM
Dug out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 03:51:51 PM
Dug out?
Petty nonsense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 30, 2018, 05:03:20 PM
Following on Twitter and I have a feeling the ref could be in for a rough ride this evening!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2018, 05:12:07 PM
Maybe sleeping giant wasn't so mad with his predictions after all...

Although plenty of injury time by the sound of it so maybe not over yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
Didn't expect that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 03:51:51 PM
Dug out?
Petty nonsense.

Yip.. Dunloy v poor, ref bottled it twice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2018, 05:12:07 PM
Maybe sleeping giant wasn't so mad with his predictions after all...

Although plenty of injury time by the sound of it so maybe not over yet.
sleeping giant isn't soft  ;) johnnies free taker cost him a fine bet, very happy for our boys today, knew the game plan going in and was wondering what dunloy would do to counteract it.  ended up doing nothing.     blow holes someone said  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 30, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
Loughgiel out fought Dunloy in just about every position on the pitch. Didn't see that performance coming. Fair play to them. Strong favourites to win the final now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on September 30, 2018, 06:22:35 PM
Was like watching your fav edition of fawlty towers. Unplanned comedic error after another & i aint talkin bout the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: groundlie on September 30, 2018, 05:45:28 PM
Any of the brave men on these boards ever took the whistle and tried to manage 30+ players, management and fans? Don't be morons please and go referee bashing.

Fair play to Loughgeil to and Johnny.

I have aye. I'm not bashing anybody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
Well done to LG
Can't explain why we only hit 8 points in 60 minutes of hurling.
We where very poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 30, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
Well done to LG
Can't explain why we only hit 8 points in 60 minutes of hurling.
We where very poor

Did anyone other than Shorty score?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 30, 2018, 07:15:31 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 03:51:51 PM
Dug out?
Petty nonsense.

Yip.. Dunloy v poor, ref bottled it twice.

Dugout issue was like children fighting, laughable.

Great win for our lads. Ref made some strange calls but thankfully never impacted result. Best team won.

Dunloy could easily have had three reds. James McKeague especially lucky.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on September 30, 2018, 08:38:12 PM
 
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 30, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 30, 2018, 06:53:33 PM
Well done to LG
Can't explain why we only hit 8 points in 60 minutes of hurling.
We where very poor

Did anyone other than Shorty score?

Nigel scored 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Things I learned today :
1. Ballycastle is one cold hole.
2. iPhones don't like rain.
3. Never steal a Dunloy mans dugout.
4. Dunloy ladies make an awful lot of noise when annoyed.
5. Tiernan Coyle is a hardy wee bucko.

O and don't act the bigman, never ends well when you show yourself up for what you are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 30, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
No point in covering over the story,  Loughgiel should have won a lot easier than they did if the Ref hadnt of bottled it with Shortys strike on Eddie being a straight red every day of the week!! To make things worse he was the only one scoring for the Dunloy. The James McKeague strike was in right in front of him, if he can't read the difference between a late slap and a deliberate strike he shouldn't have been refereeing at this level. The Shams work rate was unreal. Dunloy will have to spend the next few months trying to workout What the hell went wrong, as we did in 2017. As for Darren back to refereeing school!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 30, 2018, 09:14:23 PM
can't be too hard on the ref.  loughgiel v dunloy games isn't easy to ref no doubt and no man goes out to do anything other than his best.  dunloy being the champs and all this talk of dunloy domination, we wanted them in championship believe it or not.hurlers have been hungry to get at that young dunloy team all winter. i had faith if our forwards hurled we'd win, on the day the backs were powerful also. It feels great to be back in final but nothing is won yet.  we'd probably be favorites against st. john's but underdogs against Cdall.  when's the replay?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 30, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
No word of a dare yet!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on September 30, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Quote from: Hand up on September 30, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
No word of a date yet!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 30, 2018, 09:46:48 PM
Talk is replay in 2 weeks. Final in 4 weeks. Ulster final v slaughtneil/ ballycran in 6 weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on September 30, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Things I learned today :
1. Ballycastle is one cold hole.
2. iPhones don't like rain.
3. Never steal a Dunloy mans dugout.
4. Dunloy ladies make an awful lot of noise when annoyed.
5. Tiernan Coyle is a hardy wee bucko.

O and don't act the bigman, never ends well when you show yourself up for what you are.

Things I learned today.

Our wee country is a cold hole....
Loughgiel haven't gone away you know😉
Dunloy tried to rattle Loughgiel by taking 'their dugout' how dare their. The scenes that follow this where a disgrace. They actually tossed for the Dug out Dunloy won & Loughgiel still refused to move?
The standard was awful I thought last night's game was poor.
IMO ref had a solid game. Possibly got shorty call wrong but his linesman was right on it to.
Loughgiel will canter the final.
Semi replay is 2weeks time in Loughgiel. Final has been pushed back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on September 30, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
Was never going to be a good match with the tough conditions and Loughgiel playing so deep. Worked a treat for them. More experienced, stronger & far hungrier than Dunloy. You can have all the nice stick work & movement you want, but if the other team are organised & want it more you're in trouble.
Genuinely couldn't believe Shorty or McKeague weren't sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 06:47:00 AM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on September 30, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Things I learned today :
1. Ballycastle is one cold hole.
2. iPhones don't like rain.
3. Never steal a Dunloy mans dugout.
4. Dunloy ladies make an awful lot of noise when annoyed.
5. Tiernan Coyle is a hardy wee bucko.

O and don't act the bigman, never ends well when you show yourself up for what you are.

Things I learned today.

Our wee country is a cold hole....
Loughgiel haven't gone away you know😉
Dunloy tried to rattle Loughgiel by taking 'their dugout' how dare their. The scenes that follow this where a disgrace. They actually tossed for the Dug out Dunloy won & Loughgiel still refused to move?
The standard was awful I thought last night's game was poor.
IMO ref had a solid game. Possibly got shorty call wrong but his linesman was right on it to.
Loughgiel will canter the final.
Semi replay is 2weeks time in Loughgiel. Final has been pushed back.

"Loughgiel will walk the final."  ;D ;D If this weekend has taught us anything it's that nobody walks anything in Antrim anymore. But after dethroning the defending champions Loughgiel will be favorites for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
no complaints from me, we were god awful from start to finish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on October 01, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Cant blame a the ref for anything let it go was a good hard hitting game of hurling in which the shamrocks stood up, could argue over the red cards but dunloy easily could have had a number of penalties near the end. The shamrocks are hungry if they do win Antrim it will be interesting to see how they do against SN. St johns v cdall has the makings of another classic would be great for st johns to make the breakthrough to the final been knocking on the door for a wile now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 09:15:27 AM
replay is in Dunloy and i think that its set for next weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on October 01, 2018, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 01, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Cant blame a the ref for anything let it go was a good hard hitting game of hurling in which the shamrocks stood up, could argue over the red cards but dunloy easily could have had a number of penalties near the end. The shamrocks are hungry if they do win Antrim it will be interesting to see how they do against SN. St johns v cdall has the makings of another classic would be great for st johns to make the breakthrough to the final been knocking on the door for a wile now

wtf, you could argue my hole, blatant red cards all day long, if not then can we take it you are allowed to hit another player fair in the gut with the hurl off the ball in full view of everyone and also if a player is attempting to run by you its ok to just simply draw right across him in view of everyone.

Two poor enough games at the weekend, but i believe conditions played apart in that, Both Cushendall & particularly Dunloy will disappointed with their performances but thankfully Cushendall get another chance which i hope they learn from their mistakes, people mention ref bashing etc and have you tried it etc, all players and supporters want is consistency, on saturday there was no consistency in giving / not getting frees, its quite obvious that certain players have to work harder for their frees.

Loughgiel look very hungry and wont fear either of the teams they will meet in the final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: Megaman on October 01, 2018, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 01, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Cant blame a the ref for anything let it go was a good hard hitting game of hurling in which the shamrocks stood up, could argue over the red cards but dunloy easily could have had a number of penalties near the end. The shamrocks are hungry if they do win Antrim it will be interesting to see how they do against SN. St johns v cdall has the makings of another classic would be great for st johns to make the breakthrough to the final been knocking on the door for a wile now

wtf, you could argue my hole, blatant red cards all day long, if not then can we take it you are allowed to hit another player fair in the gut with the hurl off the ball in full view of everyone and also if a player is attempting to run by you its ok to just simply draw right across him in view of everyone.

Two poor enough games at the weekend, but i believe conditions played apart in that, Both Cushendall & particularly Dunloy will disappointed with their performances but thankfully Cushendall get another chance which i hope they learn from their mistakes, people mention ref bashing etc and have you tried it etc, all players and supporters want is consistency, on saturday there was no consistency in giving / not getting frees, its quite obvious that certain players have to work harder for their frees.

Loughgiel look very hungry and wont fear either of the teams they will meet in the final

Shorty incident was at the far side of the pitch from me so my view was across a crowded pitch. Looked like he drove the stick into Eddie completely off the ball.

The James McKeague incident was as clear a red card as you'll see and was just in front of me. Tiernan Coyle went past him with the ball in his hand and James swung the stick across him breaking it over his chest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

I take it you werent at the game yesterday then Sweeper. It wasnt as much a case of stop start as it was stop stop. The game never got going in any sense especially in the second half, partly LG tactic and partly the ref.

Didnt affect the outcome of the game just made it an even poorer watch.

Also when are we going to learn about Ballycastle, we continually take these big game there only to have them completely ruined by prevailing conditions. No programme, no announcement of the teams, no PA system for anthem but apart from that was grand  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

I take it you werent at the game yesterday then Sweeper. It wasnt as much a case of stop start as it was stop stop. The game never got going in any sense especially in the second half, partly LG tactic and partly the ref.

Didnt affect the outcome of the game just made it an even poorer watch.

Also when are we going to learn about Ballycastle, we continually take these big game there only to have them completely ruined by prevailing conditions. No programme, no announcement of the teams, no PA system for anthem but apart from that was grand  :(

Bad enough with the wind up there in July/ august never mind the business end in October. Its a very exposed place and whoever uses the conditions best normally comes out on top.

Only fair that the cdall johnnies replay is in the city tbh. Can't have everything in NA IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

Haha. You must be related to them or very good friends!

Honestly but, when a ref has a poor game (in the same way a player does), they need to be held accountable. Here's an idea. In cship games, an assessment panel made up of neutral gaels from other clubs (not ex referees) should rate the referees performance on various factors and the overall assessment be posted on Antrim website. All anonymous of course. What about that for a crazy a*s idea. A bit like the player ratings you see in the papers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2018, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

I take it you werent at the game yesterday then Sweeper. It wasnt as much a case of stop start as it was stop stop. The game never got going in any sense especially in the second half, partly LG tactic and partly the ref.

Didnt affect the outcome of the game just made it an even poorer watch.

Also when are we going to learn about Ballycastle, we continually take these big game there only to have them completely ruined by prevailing conditions. No programme, no announcement of the teams, no PA system for anthem but apart from that was grand  :(

Bad enough with the wind up there in July/ august never mind the business end in October. Its a very exposed place and whoever uses the conditions best normally comes out on top.

Only fair that the cdall johnnies replay is in the city tbh. Can't have everything in NA IMO.

Where in the city? Hannahstown, another venue that is destroyed by the elements. Bear pit? Where would the parking be at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

Haha. You must be related to them or very good friends!

Honestly but, when a ref has a poor game (in the same way a player does), they need to be held accountable. Here's an idea. In cship games, an assessment panel made up of neutral gaels from other clubs (not ex referees) should rate the referees performance on various factors and the overall assessment be posted on Antrim website. All anonymous of course. What about that for a crazy a*s idea. A bit like the player ratings you see in the papers.

Nope not related/friends, yep some things missed but as i said didnt really affect the outcome; I do like your idea of a assessments but dont think were ready yet for the results to be posted / shared with the public;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

I take it you werent at the game yesterday then Sweeper. It wasnt as much a case of stop start as it was stop stop. The game never got going in any sense especially in the second half, partly LG tactic and partly the ref.

Didnt affect the outcome of the game just made it an even poorer watch.

Also when are we going to learn about Ballycastle, we continually take these big game there only to have them completely ruined by prevailing conditions. No programme, no announcement of the teams, no PA system for anthem but apart from that was grand  :(

Bad enough with the wind up there in July/ august never mind the business end in October. Its a very exposed place and whoever uses the conditions best normally comes out on top.

Only fair that the cdall johnnies replay is in the city tbh. Can't have everything in NA IMO.

No stewards in the car park on the way out either. Complete mess trying to get out. Dunloy did a great job on the Saturday with stewards directing traffic right down through the village.
What about this new 20 grand ticket van as well? That was some investment. I've seen shorter queues going to the ticket booth at croke park. If there is any way to make a balls of something as simple as walking up to a gate man and paying into a game our county will find it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 06:47:00 AM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on September 30, 2018, 10:22:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2018, 08:48:46 PM
Things I learned today :
1. Ballycastle is one cold hole.
2. iPhones don't like rain.
3. Never steal a Dunloy mans dugout.
4. Dunloy ladies make an awful lot of noise when annoyed.
5. Tiernan Coyle is a hardy wee bucko.

O and don't act the bigman, never ends well when you show yourself up for what you are.

Things I learned today.

Our wee country is a cold hole....
Loughgiel haven't gone away you know😉
Dunloy tried to rattle Loughgiel by taking 'their dugout' how dare their. The scenes that follow this where a disgrace. They actually tossed for the Dug out Dunloy won & Loughgiel still refused to move?
The standard was awful I thought last night's game was poor.
IMO ref had a solid game. Possibly got shorty call wrong but his linesman was right on it to.
Loughgiel will canter the final.
Semi replay is 2weeks time in Loughgiel. Final has been pushed back.

"Loughgiel will walk the final."  ;D ;D If this weekend has taught us anything it's that nobody walks anything in Antrim anymore. But after dethroning the defending champions Loughgiel will be favorites for the final.
i tried telling you this last week  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
Plenty of comment on Dunloy ill discipline, the venue, the ref but is anyone going to call out the anti hurling tactics employed by Loughgiel! 8 defenders ffs, persistent time wasting and breaking up the play. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 12:47:25 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
Plenty of comment on Dunloy ill discipline, the venue, the ref but is anyone going to call out the anti hurling tactics employed by Loughgiel! 8 defenders ffs, persistent time wasting and breaking up the play.

Christ. Imagine not getting into a shoot out and leaving space for an electric fast forward line. How dare they!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
These ultra defensive systems have served football well since  Donegal's won at all costs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 01, 2018, 12:52:46 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:37:45 PM
Plenty of comment on Dunloy ill discipline, the venue, the ref but is anyone going to call out the anti hurling tactics employed by Loughgiel! 8 defenders ffs, persistent time wasting and breaking up the play.

I think you'll find that it was Dunloy's ill discipline that caused the break-ups in play.  When you get hurl broken over your ribs it tends to slow you up a bit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
These ultra defensive systems have served football well since  Donegal's won at all costs!

Loughgiel scored 6 points more than Dunloy. Wonder how they managed that if they were so defensive?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
what was the free count at the end of the game anyway?

game had no pace to it at all and was all stop start. Lgiel got their tactics spot on and we didnt. Defensibly we didnt do a lot wrong, our keeper had very little to do the whole game but it was the amount of frees we gave away killed us. Up front we just didnt do enough work.

you learn lessons from it and move on. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
what was the free count at the end of the game anyway?

game had no pace to it at all and was all stop start. Lgiel got their tactics spot on and we didnt. Defensibly we didnt do a lot wrong, our keeper had very little to do the whole game but it was the amount of frees we gave away killed us. Up front we just didnt do enough work.

you learn lessons from it and move on.

Spot on as per usual DR. Fair play to the Dunloy club on Saturday btw. Helpfulness of stewards and members top notch again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
what was the free count at the end of the game anyway?

game had no pace to it at all and was all stop start. Lgiel got their tactics spot on and we didnt. Defensibly we didnt do a lot wrong, our keeper had very little to do the whole game but it was the amount of frees we gave away killed us. Up front we just didnt do enough work.

you learn lessons from it and move on.

Exactly that. Dunloy will have learnt a lot (both players and management) from the Slaughtneil game last year and yesterday. Plenty of big days for them in coming years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: maxpower on October 01, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
These ultra defensive systems have served football well since  Donegal's won at all costs!

Loughgiel scored 6 points more than Dunloy. Wonder how they managed that if they were so defensive?

10 minutes of actual hurling in one half of hurling and LG scored 6 points from play in the 67 minutes played
Yes shorty and James should have walked but the Neymar type rolling about was pethetic for the whole match
Sweepers and diving effective yes but ask any neutral on here was it a good game of hurling
Imm more disappointed with the way we hurled or didn't
Ten minutes hurling would have beat LG no problem
We where brutal yesterday
And could everyone back of the REF
That was a hard match to do considering one team spent half the match rolling about on the ground   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league  against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league with against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

I'd say Dunloy knew the blanket defense was coming as everyone would have expected it with that forward line. The difference and the way to beat the blanket defense is to pick off scores from longer range, conditions made this nigh on impossible.

So while LG tactics worked for them, the conditions did too. Dunloy had to try and work the ball through the packed defense which was always going to be a difficult task.

Also no one going to comment on the strike before the game in the skirmish?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league  against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

You are taking it too hard I feel. It was a championship game that wasn't played on your terms, it happens. Your management could easily have changed things if they wanted.

Dunloy were not as disciplined in the tackle as usual and were wild a few times. A symptom of their frustration at how the game was playing out I feel but a bit rich to then slag off Loughgiel players for going down injured for getting dirty belts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league with against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

I'd say Dunloy knew the blanket defense was coming as everyone would have expected it with that forward line. The difference and the way to beat the blanket defense is to pick off scores from longer range, conditions made this nigh on impossible.

So while LG tactics worked for them, the conditions did too. Dunloy had to try and work the ball through the packed defense which was always going to be a difficult task.

Also no one going to comment on the strike before the game in the skirmish?

Agree 💯 percent. The breeze messed up the option of shooting from distance and that draws defenders out leaving room inside
Your obviously a student of the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league with against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

I'd say Dunloy knew the blanket defense was coming as everyone would have expected it with that forward line. The difference and the way to beat the blanket defense is to pick off scores from longer range, conditions made this nigh on impossible.

So while LG tactics worked for them, the conditions did too. Dunloy had to try and work the ball through the packed defense which was always going to be a difficult task.

Also no one going to comment on the strike before the game in the skirmish?

Agree 💯 percent. The breeze messed up the option of shooting from distance and that draws defenders out leaving room inside
Your obviously a student of the game

Dont need to be a student to know that if the defense is packed, you shoot from long range and bring them out.

But as has been said the conditions didnt allow that option. Not rocket science as the man says.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 02:08:23 PM
The conditions didn't stop a few Cushendun men knocking over plenty of points from 60-70 yards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 02:08:23 PM
The conditions didn't stop a few Cushendun men knocking over plenty of points from 60-70 yards.

Thats true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league with against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

I'd say Dunloy knew the blanket defense was coming as everyone would have expected it with that forward line. The difference and the way to beat the blanket defense is to pick off scores from longer range, conditions made this nigh on impossible.

So while LG tactics worked for them, the conditions did too. Dunloy had to try and work the ball through the packed defense which was always going to be a difficult task.

Also no one going to comment on the strike before the game in the skirmish?
which one?? :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!

You call it confidence I would call it complacency but I know where your coming from
Sorry for not coming on here on throwing lots of praise at LG but the general feeling round Dunloy is we didn't get of the bus and that's why we lost.
LG fully deserved to win because all the Neymar stuff wouldn't have mattered if we played like we can
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on October 01, 2018, 02:12:58 PM
A lack of ball winners cost Dunloy yesterday as the game was played in Loughgiels terms. There experience & hunger won them the match.
Never noticed much rolling around the ground bar the two boys who were hit in the ribs & had a stick broken round them.
As suggested here, Dunloy players will learn from yesterday. Sometimes championship Hurling isn't easy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 01:45:53 PM
If any team in the county were going up against Dunloys forwards they'd set up defensively. If you don't you'll get cleaned out. Can't fault Loughgiel for doing it. Were Dunloy not expecting it? Tactics are a bit like dugouts, not everything goes the way you want.

Dunloy where ready for a sweeper but we just never got of the bus
Sure they have played games during the league with against sweepers
So if the best way to win a match is stay in your own half and slow the game down by pretending to be half dead  then this wonderful game is heading down the bogball path

I'd say Dunloy knew the blanket defense was coming as everyone would have expected it with that forward line. The difference and the way to beat the blanket defense is to pick off scores from longer range, conditions made this nigh on impossible.

So while LG tactics worked for them, the conditions did too. Dunloy had to try and work the ball through the packed defense which was always going to be a difficult task.

Also no one going to comment on the strike before the game in the skirmish?
which one?? :o

Well I only saw one actual strike with a hurl in the whole shenanigans  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Can I ask why did the Dunloy management team and players want to be at the side with all the Loughguile supporters?  I know that no one has any side or can claim to have any side but surely taking their players to the other side where their supporters were would have made sense.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!

You call it confidence I would call it complacency but I know where your coming from
Sorry for not coming on here on throwing lots of praise at LG but the general feeling round Dunloy is we didn't get of the bus and that's why we lost.
LG fully deserved to win because all the Neymar stuff wouldn't have mattered if we played like we can
not wanting or expecting praise. but to think we were showing up to let your young guns do as they wanted was silly. and as someone said the sideline could have changed it up. id say complacency and over confidence was a factor but regardless our boys wanted it more, weather wouldn't have changed the hunger, we've plenty good enough lads on the dry day too.     someone said last week dunloy was going to blow holes in loughgiel. we went in hungry dunloy went in over confident.  that's the main factor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Can I ask why did the Dunloy management team and players want to be at the side with all the Loughguile supporters?  I know that no one has any side or can claim to have any side but surely taking their players to the other side where their supporters were would have made sense.

Can't answer that and it's a good point but if a teams out first at a neutral venue then they have the choice. Does the other team have the right to go to a dig out and throw out hurls and helmets when they where out second

It was all a bit childish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!

You call it confidence I would call it complacency but I know where your coming from
Sorry for not coming on here on throwing lots of praise at LG but the general feeling round Dunloy is we didn't get of the bus and that's why we lost.
LG fully deserved to win because all the Neymar stuff wouldn't have mattered if we played like we can
not wanting or expecting praise. but to think we were showing up to let your young guns do as they wanted was silly. and as someone said the sideline could have changed it up. id say complacency and over confidence was a factor but regardless our boys wanted it more, weather wouldn't have changed the hunger, we've plenty good enough lads on the dry day too.     someone said last week dunloy was going to blow holes in loughgiel. we went in hungry dunloy went in over confident.  that's the main factor

Didn't hear one person in Dunloy say they where going to blow holes in LG did I not tell you last week it was 50/50 so your way off the mark there.
Your spot on about the hunger LG wanted it more
I would usually go to the final because I like a good game of hurling but I think I will give it a miss for the same reasons I don't go to a Ulster football match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!

You call it confidence I would call it complacency but I know where your coming from
Sorry for not coming on here on throwing lots of praise at LG but the general feeling round Dunloy is we didn't get of the bus and that's why we lost.
LG fully deserved to win because all the Neymar stuff wouldn't have mattered if we played like we can
not wanting or expecting praise. but to think we were showing up to let your young guns do as they wanted was silly. and as someone said the sideline could have changed it up. id say complacency and over confidence was a factor but regardless our boys wanted it more, weather wouldn't have changed the hunger, we've plenty good enough lads on the dry day too.     someone said last week dunloy was going to blow holes in loughgiel. we went in hungry dunloy went in over confident.  that's the main factor

Didn't hear one person in Dunloy say they where going to blow holes in LG did I not tell you last week it was 50/50 so your way off the mark there.
Your spot on about the hunger LG wanted it more
I would usually go to the final because I like a good game of hurling but I think I will give it a miss for the same reasons I don't go to a Ulster football match

:D :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 03:03:57 PM
to be fair the rolling around and constant time wasting was getting tiresome at the end up.

we were shite, end of and thats why we lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
agreed.  cocky and shite. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
agreed.  cocky and shite.

There it is right there
Your eternal class shining right through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
jesus shame on loughgiel for not leaving 20 yards in front of lightening fast forwards. :o catch a grip will you!!! we set up the only way they could to win and dunloy didn't adapt,  dunloy was always waiting on that spark or that goal coming, and it didn't.  our backs were excellent as were dunloys only for the fouling,  Shorty should have walked and thank god it didn't effect the outcome of the game.  wouldn't give the ref any grief what so ever.  As far as the "were dunloy not expecting it" i think over confidence paid a price here. Cdall to win with plenty to spare next time round and set up a serious final.  anywhere but ballycastle please!!!!

You call it confidence I would call it complacency but I know where your coming from
Sorry for not coming on here on throwing lots of praise at LG but the general feeling round Dunloy is we didn't get of the bus and that's why we lost.
LG fully deserved to win because all the Neymar stuff wouldn't have mattered if we played like we can
not wanting or expecting praise. but to think we were showing up to let your young guns do as they wanted was silly. and as someone said the sideline could have changed it up. id say complacency and over confidence was a factor but regardless our boys wanted it more, weather wouldn't have changed the hunger, we've plenty good enough lads on the dry day too.     someone said last week dunloy was going to blow holes in loughgiel. we went in hungry dunloy went in over confident.  that's the main factor

Didn't hear one person in Dunloy say they where going to blow holes in LG did I not tell you last week it was 50/50 so your way off the mark there.
Your spot on about the hunger LG wanted it more
I would usually go to the final because I like a good game of hurling but I think I will give it a miss for the same reasons I don't go to a Ulster football match
someone said on here last week 8+ and blow holes in them. no odds now.  jesus your taking it bad. next time we'll be sure to leave your young pups plenty of space alright  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
agreed.  cocky and shite.

There it is right there
Your eternal class shining right through
only agreeing with your own club mate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Desperate altogether not letting the young Dunloy heroes have the run of Páirc Mac Uílín.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 03:33:57 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
agreed.  cocky and shite.

didnt take long for that to come out of you.

no one was cocky, if you check the posts prior to this it was called as a 50/50 game.

but your comment says more about you as a person.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:35:10 PM
jesus wasn't i only agreeing with you.  pretty desperate by yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
your clutching at straws. you know rightly your comment was that to get a reaction and i regret that i bothered to warrant it with one.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
So to round of this weekends action.  Dunloy lost because of the weather and loughgiels tactics and the dispute over the dugout and the weather and not being able to hit nice clean ball into there nice wee forwards and the weather and our tactics and it's not there fault that the world domination is on hold for another year.  Here's how i seen it, JC got our game plan bang on, Dunloy lost at there own game, they battered and slapped last year against Cdall in the final and got NMM sent of for hitting back, won a championship. fair play. They battered and slapped yesterday and our lads stayed disciplined and won the game being a bit longer in the tooth.  to start and cry over how the opposition played is simply being a bad looser, end of story. move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
your clutching at straws. you know rightly your comment was that to get a reaction and i regret that i bothered to warrant it with one.
who originally said it?  catch yourself on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 04:06:26 PM
you know what i deleted this cause i cant be bothered continuing this debate at all.

we lost. end of. life moves on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Desperate altogether not letting the young Dunloy heroes have the run of Páirc Mac Uílín.  :-X

And here comes SIE
Mr fair wheather supporter of the century
You know LG won a match when you show up on these boards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
replay sunday week in dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Desperate altogether not letting the young Dunloy heroes have the run of Páirc Mac Uílín.  :-X

And here comes SIE
Mr fair wheather supporter of the century
You know LG won a match when you show up on these boards
Still obsessed.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Desperate altogether not letting the young Dunloy heroes have the run of Páirc Mac Uílín.  :-X

And here comes SIE
Mr fair wheather supporter of the century
You know LG won a match when you show up on these boards
Still obsessed.  ;)

No was just enjoying your absence
The standards of the post have been better
now your back Imm sure you can drag the whole thread into the gutter
What's your view on this new LG puke hurling approach
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:16:24 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Desperate altogether not letting the young Dunloy heroes have the run of Páirc Mac Uílín.  :-X

And here comes SIE
Mr fair wheather supporter of the century
You know LG won a match when you show up on these boards
Still obsessed.  ;)

No was just enjoying your absence
The standards of the post have been better
now your back Imm sure you can drag the whole thread into the gutter
What's your view on this new LG puke hurling approach
It seems to work. EFFECTIVE!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
replay sunday week in dunloy

Venue? :-\

Think this has been done to death.
Corrigan is the only Belfast venue capable of hosting a hurling game, obviously it can host this one, so alternatives need to be looked at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 01, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:09:23 PM
replay sunday week in dunloy

Venue? :-\

Think this has been done to death.
Corrigan is the only Belfast venue capable of hosting a hurling game, obviously it can host this one, so alternatives need to be looked at.

Genuine mistake and hence I removed my post. Didn't read it properly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: pdiddy on October 01, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
Jesus lads, Loughgiel stopped Dunloy from hurling in much the same way that Cushendall did to Loughgiel a couple of years back (fair play to them).  You'd think Loughgiel had committed the crime of the century - grow up lads!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 01, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
Jesus lads, Loughgiel stopped Dunloy from hurling in much the same way that Cushendall did to Loughgiel a couple of years back (fair play to them).  You'd think Loughgiel had committed the crime of the century - grow up lads!

Exactly. Good win and all it was but counts for nothing unless we win the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
This board today has had more action than the match. Keep it up lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 01, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 01, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
Jesus lads, Loughgiel stopped Dunloy from hurling in much the same way that Cushendall did to Loughgiel a couple of years back (fair play to them).  You'd think Loughgiel had committed the crime of the century - grow up lads!

Exactly. Good win and all it was but counts for nothing unless we win the final.
100%.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
to be honest this is what we should be talking about

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45703584

no home for us or likely to be in the near future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
to be honest this is what we should be talking about

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45703584

no home for us or likely to be in the near future.
Think we've all but given up hope on this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
to be honest this is what we should be talking about

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45703584

no home for us or likely to be in the near future.

Yeah
So where does Antrim go from here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
This board today has had more action than the match. Keep it up lads.
any news yet on any suspensions for your own action on the sideline saturday? two ex stars over the wire. i didn't see it but am informed a star player could be in a drop of hot water also

Well you didn't see it. The referee obviously didn't see anything either. No red cards or yellow cards. Just cause you boys have resulted to puke hurling don't try bringing the rest of us down as well. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cannon Fodder on October 01, 2018, 05:38:41 PM
Just cause you boys have resulted to puke hurling don't try bringing the rest of us down as well.
[/quote]

And here we have it, Loughgiel change tactics to try and win the game, quite similar to what Cushendall have done in previous years under Smokey (Eoin Campbell being sacrificed more times than enough to play sweeper) and nobody else is allowed to use it. Only adapting to win the match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
This board today has had more action than the match. Keep it up lads.
any news yet on any suspensions for your own action on the sideline saturday? two ex stars over the wire. i didn't see it but am informed a star player could be in a drop of hot water also

Well you didn't see it. The referee obviously didn't see anything either. No red cards or yellow cards. Just cause you boys have resulted to puke hurling don't try bringing the rest of us down as well.
;D ;D Ok!!  Exactly how did use beat us two years back?  lol quit the crack now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 05:53:28 PM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on October 01, 2018, 05:38:41 PM
Just cause you boys have resulted to puke hurling don't try bringing the rest of us down as well.

And here we have it, Loughgiel change tactics to try and win the game, quite similar to what Cushendall have done in previous years under Smokey (Eoin Campbell being sacrificed more times than enough to play sweeper) and nobody else is allowed to use it. Only adapting to win the match
[/quote]

Cannon Fodder, my remarks about puke hurling were made with my tongue very much in cheek. Have a sense of humour ffs. You'll need one if you are to last any length of time on this discussion board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 05:48:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
This board today has had more action than the match. Keep it up lads.
any news yet on any suspensions for your own action on the sideline saturday? two ex stars over the wire. i didn't see it but am informed a star player could be in a drop of hot water also

Well you didn't see it. The referee obviously didn't see anything either. No red cards or yellow cards. Just cause you boys have resulted to puke hurling don't try bringing the rest of us down as well.
;D ;D Ok!!  Exactly how did use beat us two years back?  lol quit the crack now

Fast flowing, expansive attacking hurling that yielded a higher score than our opponents SG?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on October 01, 2018, 05:55:24 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 01, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 01, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
I believe that the results at the weekend were fair and the refs in both games did not cost any team - i thought they were neutral, tried to let both games flow (rather that than start /stop) yep for sure they missed somethings (and probably could have been helped more by their linesmen) - overall a good performance by both men in the middle.

Haha. You must be related to them or very good friends!

Honestly but, when a ref has a poor game (in the same way a player does), they need to be held accountable. Here's an idea. In cship games, an assessment panel made up of neutral gaels from other clubs (not ex referees) should rate the referees performance on various factors and the overall assessment be posted on Antrim website. All anonymous of course. What about that for a crazy a*s idea. A bit like the player ratings you see in the papers.

Crazy idea is right. Could think of nothing worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 01, 2018, 06:06:49 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 12:10:56 PM
No stewards in the car park on the way out either. Complete mess trying to get out. Dunloy did a great job on the Saturday with stewards directing traffic right down through the village.
What about this new 20 grand ticket van as well? That was some investment. I've seen shorter queues going to the ticket booth at croke park. If there is any way to make a balls of something as simple as walking up to a gate man and paying into a game our county will find it.

The day Dublin came to Corrigan was nought short of embarrassing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess

I seen the plans for casement online on the planning service web site a brave while ago and they are still floating about.

the fees that they will have been charging will have been shocking high and what has been spent on it at the moment is mental. All we have got from casement is fecking silage!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess

I seen the plans for casement online on the planning service web site a brave while ago and they are still floating about.

the fees that they will have been charging will have been shocking high and what has been spent on it at the moment is mental. All we have got from casement is fecking silage!
It's a right shame this has been allowed to happen. I was up past Casement last week and had a look in. Sad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess

I seen the plans for casement online on the planning service web site a brave while ago and they are still floating about.

the fees that they will have been charging will have been shocking high and what has been spent on it at the moment is mental. All we have got from casement is fecking silage!
It's a right shame this has been allowed to happen. I was up past Casement last week and had a look in. Sad.
Anyone ever speak to our own club delegates to see if clubs inquired who is responsible for the mess
At the end of the day casement belongs to Antrim Gael's and the clubs or am I way off on this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess

I seen the plans for casement online on the planning service web site a brave while ago and they are still floating about.

the fees that they will have been charging will have been shocking high and what has been spent on it at the moment is mental. All we have got from casement is fecking silage!
It's a right shame this has been allowed to happen. I was up past Casement last week and had a look in. Sad.
Anyone ever speak to our own club delegates to see if clubs inquired who is responsible for the mess
At the end of the day casement belongs to Antrim Gael's and the clubs or am I way off on this

Not any more it doesn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 01, 2018, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on October 01, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:31:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 01, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 01, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
whoever did make the call to shut casement when they did really didn't think it through at all. In the mean time we will have to get used to not having a home for another ten years at this rate.

Think Mc Nulty is using this as a political dig at the shinners as well
Ulster Council to blame and the last half wits we had in charge at county

seen him today on the tv going on about it.

In the short term would they not be better investing some money into grounds around the county to try and help the facilities. they ask clubs to do all the work to host the games, the least they could do is do more to help improve that match day experience in some way.

If most ordinary Antrim folk knew how much has already been spent on planning consultants,and contractors delay penalty fees they would go mad
It's well into the millions
The paltry fee casement was let go for to Ulster Council was also way below market value
The whole thing is a complete mess

I seen the plans for casement online on the planning service web site a brave while ago and they are still floating about.

the fees that they will have been charging will have been shocking high and what has been spent on it at the moment is mental. All we have got from casement is fecking silage!
It's a right shame this has been allowed to happen. I was up past Casement last week and had a look in. Sad.
Anyone ever speak to our own club delegates to see if clubs inquired who is responsible for the mess
At the end of the day casement belongs to Antrim Gael's and the clubs or am I way off on this

Not any more it doesn't.

Sorry I should have said use to belong
My point being is who is accountable and why where they left to their own devices
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....

Saffron Vision was supposed to be the start of a new era for Antrim GAA. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by the wayside.

It seems that Antrim is one of the few counties who cant seem to get their house in order.

Id say the Casement episode has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and that is the fault of the Ulster Council who fed the Antrim county board a lot of sweetie mice and attempted to coerce Antrim into signing over Casement Park to the Ulster Council.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....

Saffron Vision was supposed to be the start of a new era for Antrim GAA. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by the wayside.

It seems that Antrim is one of the few counties who cant seem to get their house in order.

Id say the Casement episode has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and that is the fault of the Ulster Council who fed the Antrim county board a lot of sweetie mice and attempted to coerce Antrim into signing over Casement Park to the Ulster Council.

The last time we had strong leadership and good governance was when John McSparran was in charge. Been moving from disaster to the next ever since.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 02, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....

Saffron Vision was supposed to be the start of a new era for Antrim GAA. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by the wayside.

It seems that Antrim is one of the few counties who cant seem to get their house in order.

Id say the Casement episode has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and that is the fault of the Ulster Council who fed the Antrim county board a lot of sweetie mice and attempted to coerce Antrim into signing over Casement Park to the Ulster Council.

The last time we had strong leadership and good governance was when John McSparran was in charge. Been moving from disaster to the next ever since.

Are you having a laugh? Dunsilly?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 02, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....

Saffron Vision was supposed to be the start of a new era for Antrim GAA. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by the wayside.

It seems that Antrim is one of the few counties who cant seem to get their house in order.

Id say the Casement episode has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and that is the fault of the Ulster Council who fed the Antrim county board a lot of sweetie mice and attempted to coerce Antrim into signing over Casement Park to the Ulster Council.

The last time we had strong leadership and good governance was when John McSparran was in charge. Been moving from disaster to the next ever since.

Are you having a laugh? Dunsilly?

I thought his tenure wasn't as bad as the last two. Do you think we need a complete overhaul at the top and if so who on earth would want such a task?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 02, 2018, 03:28:39 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 02, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 02, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2018, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 02, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 01, 2018, 07:20:19 PM
Club delegates were fed a crock of shite on many aspects of this from the beginning. They also opened their mouths wider and allowed themselves to be, refusing to listen to any alternative. Anyone who spoke against it was an anti-GAA "blackguard". That was the term used by the St. Brigid's delegate. You reap what you sow.

I've seen it said on this site many times, same old guard in situ just in different chairs over the last few decades getting a handy wee turn. Things will never improve in Antrim unless the whole house is cleaned out and start afresh with genuine honest people in the correct positions....

Saffron Vision was supposed to be the start of a new era for Antrim GAA. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by the wayside.

It seems that Antrim is one of the few counties who cant seem to get their house in order.

Id say the Casement episode has left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and that is the fault of the Ulster Council who fed the Antrim county board a lot of sweetie mice and attempted to coerce Antrim into signing over Casement Park to the Ulster Council.

The last time we had strong leadership and good governance was when John McSparran was in charge. Been moving from disaster to the next ever since.

Are you having a laugh? Dunsilly?

I thought his tenure wasn't as bad as the last two. Do you think we need a complete overhaul at the top and if so who on earth would want such a task?
I can be corrected but I think it was Dr. John who was at the helm when we bought Dunsilly and what an abject failure that has been. Who would want such a task? It's a big question but from where we sit the only way is up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 03, 2018, 09:44:17 AM
No response from certain quarters says all you need to know.  Quick to defend when challenged on other recent performances with explanations but I suppose when you can't justify decisions taken its probably best to say nothing. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2018, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
So to round of this weekends action.  Dunloy lost because of the weather and loughgiels tactics and the dispute over the dugout and the weather and not being able to hit nice clean ball into there nice wee forwards and the weather and our tactics and it's not there fault that the world domination is on hold for another year.  Here's how i seen it, JC got our game plan bang on, Dunloy lost at there own game, they battered and slapped last year against Cdall in the final and got NMM sent of for hitting back, won a championship. fair play. They battered and slapped yesterday and our lads stayed disciplined and won the game being a bit longer in the tooth.  to start and cry over how the opposition played is simply being a bad looser, end of story. move on

Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.

Say what you really feel Left Peg  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on October 03, 2018, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
So to round of this weekends action.  Dunloy lost because of the weather and loughgiels tactics and the dispute over the dugout and the weather and not being able to hit nice clean ball into there nice wee forwards and the weather and our tactics and it's not there fault that the world domination is on hold for another year.  Here's how i seen it, JC got our game plan bang on, Dunloy lost at there own game, they battered and slapped last year against Cdall in the final and got NMM sent of for hitting back, won a championship. fair play. They battered and slapped yesterday and our lads stayed disciplined and won the game being a bit longer in the tooth.  to start and cry over how the opposition played is simply being a bad looser, end of story. move on

Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.

Deluded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2018, 10:12:14 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 03, 2018, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
So to round of this weekends action.  Dunloy lost because of the weather and loughgiels tactics and the dispute over the dugout and the weather and not being able to hit nice clean ball into there nice wee forwards and the weather and our tactics and it's not there fault that the world domination is on hold for another year.  Here's how i seen it, JC got our game plan bang on, Dunloy lost at there own game, they battered and slapped last year against Cdall in the final and got NMM sent of for hitting back, won a championship. fair play. They battered and slapped yesterday and our lads stayed disciplined and won the game being a bit longer in the tooth.  to start and cry over how the opposition played is simply being a bad looser, end of story. move on

Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.

Deluded.

This was my favourite bit  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on October 03, 2018, 10:20:17 AM
Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.
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^ Clearly you are a muppet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 03, 2018, 10:27:21 AM
'Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.'


Little touchy there left peg hopefully your wife will let you out for that Slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 03, 2018, 11:46:35 AM
Good luck to her always nice to win ulster titles.... At least one of you do your talking on the pitch then  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 03, 2018, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
Deluded, now that's something that Dunloy were on Sunday thinking their neighbours would sit back and watch them hurl. The wife might let me out but then again she could be busy winning another Ulster title......

Is she from Slaughtneil?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 03, 2018, 11:55:54 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
Deluded, now that's something that Dunloy were on Sunday thinking their neighbours would sit back and watch them hurl. The wife might let me out but then again she could be busy winning another Ulster title......

Due can I have some of whatever your smoking
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2018, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 03, 2018, 11:55:54 AM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
Deluded, now that's something that Dunloy were on Sunday thinking their neighbours would sit back and watch them hurl. The wife might let me out but then again she could be busy winning another Ulster title......

Due can I have some of whatever your smoking

Not sure who Due is, anyway sorry to disappoint I don't smoke

Not back to this rubbish again  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 03, 2018, 12:43:11 PM
So semi replay is on weekend after next (13/14th). When will final be, two weeks after that (27/28th)?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
Semi Final replay confirmed for BCastle. Ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2018, 02:24:17 PM
Quote from: left peg on October 03, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 01, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
So to round of this weekends action.  Dunloy lost because of the weather and loughgiels tactics and the dispute over the dugout and the weather and not being able to hit nice clean ball into there nice wee forwards and the weather and our tactics and it's not there fault that the world domination is on hold for another year.  Here's how i seen it, JC got our game plan bang on, Dunloy lost at there own game, they battered and slapped last year against Cdall in the final and got NMM sent of for hitting back, won a championship. fair play. They battered and slapped yesterday and our lads stayed disciplined and won the game being a bit longer in the tooth.  to start and cry over how the opposition played is simply being a bad looser, end of story. move on

Exactly I was at the Dunloy Slaughtneil match last year and heard the excuses ranging from slaughtneil were too physical we'll be stronger next year. Match shouldn't have been played in owenbeg (probably best surface in Ulster for hurling) slaughtneil have no hurlers they've just big strong men, complete slabbers and probably the worst team to come out of Antrim in the past 4/5 years. I said to my wife on leaving that game that Dunloy wouldn't get out of Antrim this year as they assume they've a god given right that teams will lie down against them. Glad to see them beat and look forward to a slaughtneil v Antrim club Ulster final.

Christ theres always one with a hatred that they cant bury.

jog on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 02:46:46 PM
i assume the game is changed to ballycastle for double header purposes with minor final on before and dunloy in final.  it baffles me how ballycastle continues to get these bigger games.  i wouldn't let ducks out on that pitch!!! on a good day there's a swirling wind. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
if im going to be critical of sunday you need to get people outside of the gates of the ground to sort out the parking and the traffic - much the same as what we do all the time. we block the main road to allow the traffic away and make a decent effort to ensure that everyone hasnt that long a wait.

but here tear us on with the final lol save me having to do traffic duty again this year! :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .
jesus don't take it to heart!  am only saying i've been on that pitch many a time and it would have a swirling wind on the best day in ireland,Nightmare to get out of it then also 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2018, 04:28:28 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .

Settle petal..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 03, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .
jesus don't take it to heart!  am only saying i've been on that pitch many a time and it would have a swirling wind on the best day in ireland,Nightmare to get out of it then also
Pitch is grand, weather generally brutal and worst place in the county to get out off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 03, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 03, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .
jesus don't take it to heart!  am only saying i've been on that pitch many a time and it would have a swirling wind on the best day in ireland,Nightmare to get out of it then also
Pitch is grand, weather generally brutal and worst place in the county to get out off.
The main issue is turning right out of the pitch, if they all turned left and down past the old pitch it would ease the traffic a bit. On Sunday they stopped people parking along Whitepark road which improved things a bit. It might not be as bad for Cushendall v St Johns as Cushendall will be turning left and St Johns right. On Sunday everyone turned right which did not help matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 03, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
I have to say I thought the man in the middle was terrible on Sunday. 3 red cards should have been issued on Sunday and he bottled it on two off them. Don't think he is up to the standard needed for senior championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 03, 2018, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 03, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
I have to say I thought the man in the middle was terrible on Sunday. 3 red cards should have been issued on Sunday and he bottled it on two off them. Don't think he is up to the standard needed for senior championship
Did you create a new account for that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 03, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 03, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 03, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 03, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Why wouldn't BALLYCASTLE get the big games ?? The pitch was in great shape at the weekend . Can't help the weather . Was it not windy in the St. John's and Cushendall game . Best place for parking . But would think now that we have had these two games that the final will be in Dunloy .
jesus don't take it to heart!  am only saying i've been on that pitch many a time and it would have a swirling wind on the best day in ireland,Nightmare to get out of it then also
Pitch is grand, weather generally brutal and worst place in the county to get out off.
The main issue is turning right out of the pitch, if they all turned left and down past the old pitch it would ease the traffic a bit. On Sunday they stopped people parking along Whitepark road which improved things a bit. It might not be as bad for Cushendall v St Johns as Cushendall will be turning left and St Johns right. On Sunday everyone turned right which did not help matters.
hardly be a big issue the next day anyway
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2018, 04:21:54 AM
Shock in Derry with Slaughtneil getting knocked out of the football championship. Now their sole focus is on the hurling and their clash with Ballycran. I'm hoping that our own county champions will restore the balance of order and take the Ulster title this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 04, 2018, 07:34:36 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 04, 2018, 04:21:54 AM
Shock in Derry with Slaughtneil getting knocked out of the football championship. Now their sole focus is on the hurling and their clash with Ballycran. I'm hoping that our own county champions will restore the balance of order and take the Ulster title this year

Big result that'll have a massive impact for the better on Slaughtneil's hurling. Things haven't gotten any easier for whoever comes out of Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 04, 2018, 08:37:16 AM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 03, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
Tony baloney i wont deny that im happy to report that no that is not me . Only one account here with no ulterior motive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 04, 2018, 10:05:46 AM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 03, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
I have to say I thought the man in the middle was terrible on Sunday. 3 red cards should have been issued on Sunday and he bottled it on two off them. Don't think he is up to the standard needed for senior championship

get over yourself and stop creating accounts to have a go at someone personally. Grow a set
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 04, 2018, 10:10:31 AM
Eoghan Campbell a big miss for the Dall - broken hand I hear .
Great to see Burke back hurling after the series injury suffered earlier in the year;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 03, 2018, 09:14:36 PM
I have to say I thought the man in the middle was terrible on Sunday. 3 red cards should have been issued on Sunday and he bottled it on two off them. Don't think he is up to the standard needed for senior championship

tool..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 04, 2018, 11:47:18 AM
I'd be shocked if Paddy Burke doesn't go to 6, Martin in at 3 and DK to 7!

McManus will surely play 11 and assuming they improve on the last day i'd Make them favourites to go through.

In fact I think they'll win it this year, they have the physical power up front to combat LG negative tactics and always pose a goal threat even when they don't have much of the ball.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 05, 2018, 09:13:31 AM
Where's our friend from SN today?  :D

The mask has slipped a little in the last few days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 05, 2018, 09:25:49 AM
funny i was wondering that myself after his hate filled rant towards our club the other day. 

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 05, 2018, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 05, 2018, 09:25:49 AM
funny i was wondering that myself after his hate filled rant towards our club the other day.

Better not tell him where I'm from then  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 09, 2018, 08:27:53 AM
Good luck to St Galls and Cushendun in their Ulster championship games this weekend versus Lisbellaw and Na Magha respectively. Two wins for our sides and into the semi finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 09, 2018, 02:41:05 PM
be nice to see them both pick up a win. both games will be very tough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2018, 03:14:13 PM
I think NaMagha might win that game but would be surprised were st galls not to beat lisbellaw with a bit to spare?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 09, 2018, 05:22:27 PM
Cushendun very strong at this level with a good bench fancy them to win ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 09, 2018, 06:03:19 PM
Lamh Dhearg 2  yrs ago , Creggan a few years before that - not so long ago
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 10, 2018, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:42:51 PM
Lámh Dhearg's was a saga after a battering match with a Donegal team led to multiple suspensions, appeals & squeals.

I was out of the country for a few years. Sounded like mayhem.

Rossa won U16 all county. Is that the last of their good teams for a wee while HS? Fair to say the rules the roost there for years.
Sometimes get my years mixed up but almost certain we did the double in All County Feile last year. If so, next year's U16 teams should be handy enough.

Rossas feile team of last year were more than handy. Lots of them playing for St Marys and blowing holes in everyone at schools hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 10, 2018, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: farset on October 10, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 10, 2018, 08:42:51 PM
Lámh Dhearg's was a saga after a battering match with a Donegal team led to multiple suspensions, appeals & squeals.

I was out of the country for a few years. Sounded like mayhem.

Rossa won U16 all county. Is that the last of their good teams for a wee while HS? Fair to say the rules the roost there for years.
Sometimes get my years mixed up but almost certain we did the double in All County Feile last year. If so, next year's U16 teams should be handy enough.

You probably get a lot of their names mixed up as well HS, given the number of players from other clubs that are poached!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 10, 2018, 11:14:58 PM
A chance for one to redeem himself this weekend I see.

Should be a handy one all the same.

Dunloy 12+.

Cushendall to win the replay 8+.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 11, 2018, 02:57:31 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 10, 2018, 11:14:58 PM
A chance for one to redeem himself this weekend I see.

Should be a handy one all the same.

Dunloy 12+.

Cushendall to win the replay 8+.

I'll go for
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 6

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 3

St Galls vs Lisbellaw - St Galls by 7

Cushendun vs Na Magha - Cushendun by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 11, 2018, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.

Rossa's underage success over a significant number of years was purely down to clever poaching, manipulation in relation to transfers and sanctions.  The winning factor was the carrot and guaranteed trips to Feile.  I'd say over the past twenty years, you'll probably not find a more successful hurling club at underage level.  Only 1 senior Championship in 20 years tells its own story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 11, 2018, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 11, 2018, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.

Rossa's underage success over a significant number of years was purely down to clever poaching, manipulation in relation to transfers and sanctions.  The winning factor was the carrot and guaranteed trips to Feile.  I'd say over the past twenty years, you'll probably not find a more successful hurling club at underage level.  Only 1 senior Championship in 20 years tells its own story.
But they are the only club in Belfast to win a senior hurling championship since the early seventies. And as regards player poaching, all the big clubs poach off small clubs. Plenty of juvenile hurlers from Armoy, Cushendun and Carey playing for Cushendall, Ballycastle and Glenariffe, Even Loughgiel with their pick have pinched the odd hurler from Armoy over the years :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2018, 07:01:14 AM
Gaelic Life tipping St. Johns to win the replay...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 12, 2018, 08:24:47 AM
it could go either way sundays game but i think that Cdall have that edge in terms of knowing how to win a championship and could take it by 2 points.

Looking forward to it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 12, 2018, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2018, 06:12:30 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 11, 2018, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.

Rossa's underage success over a significant number of years was purely down to clever poaching, manipulation in relation to transfers and sanctions.  The winning factor was the carrot and guaranteed trips to Feile.  I'd say over the past twenty years, you'll probably not find a more successful hurling club at underage level.  Only 1 senior Championship in 20 years tells its own story.
Right up there with the lie that Belfast teams don't fulfill their fixtures that you went scurrying to the county board with before being exposed as the bitter wee bullshitter that you are.
Keep it up!

When a Belfast club has a sniff of potential success they will fulfil their fixtures otherwise more often than not, will play at home but will not travel to NA.  Any NA club will relate to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 12, 2018, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2018, 10:09:44 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 12, 2018, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2018, 06:12:30 AM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 11, 2018, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.

Rossa's underage success over a significant number of years was purely down to clever poaching, manipulation in relation to transfers and sanctions.  The winning factor was the carrot and guaranteed trips to Feile.  I'd say over the past twenty years, you'll probably not find a more successful hurling club at underage level.  Only 1 senior Championship in 20 years tells its own story.
Right up there with the lie that Belfast teams don't fulfill their fixtures that you went scurrying to the county board with before being exposed as the bitter wee bullshitter that you are.
Keep it up!

When a Belfast club has a sniff of potential success they will fulfil their fixtures otherwise more often than not, will play at home but will not travel to NA.  Any NA club will relate to this.
You were proven to be telling lies. Joe Edwards went through every unfulfilled fixture and showed everyone at county convention that this claim was entirely false and that the clubs at fault for unfulfilled games were spread throughout the entire county and beyond it. Indeed, it even provoked the chairman of NA to apologise for including this nonsense in his annual report.
Keep peddling it if it gives you comfort.

Rossa (and Belfast select) must have gathered up a good team that year!  You keep referring to "me", I made no such claims at convention.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 12, 2018, 01:13:55 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 11, 2018, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 11, 2018, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 11, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
Quote from: maxpower on October 11, 2018, 07:46:00 AM
Rossa best Cushendall in the fiele final last year, can't remember the score line but it was a fairly wide margin.  That same Cushendall were very strong in North Antrim!
Maybe that's why he has that large wedge of lemon lodged in his gob.

Challenge is to get through that the feile isnt the end goal and to get the lads to stick at it past this and through the ranks upwards. Obviously challenges are greater for this for Belfast clubs traditionally, but it needs to happen regardless to get Rossa and other clubs back to competing regularly for senior honours.

Rossa's underage success over a significant number of years was purely down to clever poaching, manipulation in relation to transfers and sanctions.  The winning factor was the carrot and guaranteed trips to Feile.  I'd say over the past twenty years, you'll probably not find a more successful hurling club at underage level.  Only 1 senior Championship in 20 years tells its own story.
But they are the only club in Belfast to win a senior hurling championship since the early seventies. And as regards player poaching, all the big clubs poach off small clubs. Plenty of juvenile hurlers from Armoy, Cushendun and Carey playing for Cushendall, Ballycastle and Glenariffe, Even Loughgiel with their pick have pinched the odd hurler from Armoy over the years :)

Didn't know Glenariffe were a big club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 12, 2018, 01:17:40 PM
5 out of 5 senior semi finals played outside Belfast this year.gaa has recognised that Belfast is struggling with the gaelfast initiative.Seems county board are very happy not to promote our games in the city.Absolute farce.You would think that with casement gone they could at least try to encourage our games in the city even if it is just to pretend they are impartial.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 12, 2018, 01:23:20 PM
what venue in Belfast can take the crowd that will turn up on sunday?

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Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 12, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
thats pretty much it PJ. theres not enough park available for the game this weekend. Ballycastle or Dunloy can take a large crowd and get them parked for a game and Ballycastle has the best viewing options of any ground in Antrim.

Ive no problem going to game in Belfast but he hard truth is that the county know they will lose on the gate if it was taken to Lamh Dhearg or St. Johns hence why its taken to the likes of Dunloy or Ballycastle. Its all down to where they know a venue which will attract a large support along with a large neutral crowd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on October 12, 2018, 02:37:16 PM
The bank at far side of lamh dearg has been completely removed & is now a level surface unsown. Maybe they are building a second pitch??   So only elevated viewpoint there atm is behind the goal where im assuming all the cars would be parked
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.

Plenty of parking in Lamh Dhearg. Good routes in and out. When they've been tested they've done well. Last few times I've been to Creggan or Ahoghill I've had to park half way up some mucky road and hoof it on foot. Dunloy and Ballycastle good venues indeed tried and tested but hardly fair on St John's to travel two years in a row.

Dunloy is OK but do you not think for a second that there is a duty on the GAA to push a few Belfast's way, you know Ireland's second city where hurling is struggling a bit?

Its not the clubs in NA or SW Antrims fault that hurling in the city is struggling? Why is it struggling? Its been mismanaged for years and I honestly believe it isn't the clubs fault in SA.Why do you think St Endas and Rossa went to NA to improve? Or why have Kevin Lynches or Burt came to NA? Its organised and people at the top showed an interest in the future of game in that area.

In my opinion the blame lies firmly with the previous county boards and regimes. It's an age old argument that has likely been played to death before on here and more than likely will be again. Of course there is a duty to promote it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 12, 2018, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.

Plenty of parking in Lamh Dhearg. Good routes in and out. When they've been tested they've done well. Last few times I've been to Creggan or Ahoghill I've had to park half way up some mucky road and hoof it on foot. Dunloy and Ballycastle good venues indeed tried and tested but hardly fair on St John's to travel two years in a row.

Dunloy is OK but do you not think for a second that there is a duty on the GAA to push a few Belfast's way, you know Ireland's second city where hurling is struggling a bit?

That has to lie with the clubs themselves to enhance and promote the game themselves. The GAA has been putting money into our games for years, granted its not as much as other counties, but that wont change the fortunes of the games themselves.

I follow all the clubs in Antrim on social media as im the PRO for our own club and i see countless examples from clubs in Belfast of the outstanding work thats been done esp in the underage set up. the promotion of the games from each club is brilliant and they give the youth a great platform for which to go forth and become better people. But it needs to keep going if its ever going to get better within the city and that will come from the clubs themselves.

Going to Belfast for the county final was the biggest day in the calendar growing up and we loved nothing more than getting there on county final day and id be more than happy to have them days back again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 12, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
was at johnnies v rossa 1\4 final and it was great to see so many kids from other Belfast clubs down watching the game.Surely the county board owe it to Belfast gaels to fix some championship games in the city.lamh dearg could host it.if that's the case are we gonna have to settle for country destinations for championship games for the next 6 years until casement is built.As usual county board showing no sense of foresight or fairness,something we have all come to except.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 04:45:06 PM
My post wasn't designed to have a pop at Belfast clubs, as DR said, heading up the M2 to Casement was something I loved to do with my Oul fella god rest him. Its a sad reality that there isn't a ground in the city capable of holding the expected crowd.

My understanding is that St Johns asked for the replay to be in Dunloy.

The IHC final & Minor B were in Lamh Dhearg so they've held finals in the city along with the IFC in Corrigan next week.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2018, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 12, 2018, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Corrigan.
Lamh Dhearg

St Johns play at Corrigan ffs.. Lamh Dhearg? No chance.

Simple fact is that the venues are outside Belfast due to parking.

Plenty of parking in Lamh Dhearg. Good routes in and out. When they've been tested they've done well. Last few times I've been to Creggan or Ahoghill I've had to park half way up some mucky road and hoof it on foot. Dunloy and Ballycastle good venues indeed tried and tested but hardly fair on St John's to travel two years in a row.

Dunloy is OK but do you not think for a second that there is a duty on the GAA to push a few Belfast's way, you know Ireland's second city where hurling is struggling a bit?

That has to lie with the clubs themselves to enhance and promote the game themselves. The GAA has been putting money into our games for years, granted its not as much as other counties, but that wont change the fortunes of the games themselves.

I follow all the clubs in Antrim on social media as im the PRO for our own club and i see countless examples from clubs in Belfast of the outstanding work thats been done esp in the underage set up. the promotion of the games from each club is brilliant and they give the youth a great platform for which to go forth and become better people. But it needs to keep going if its ever going to get better within the city and that will come from the clubs themselves.

Going to Belfast for the county final was the biggest day in the calendar growing up and we loved nothing more than getting there on county final day and id be more than happy to have them days back again.

I agree with all of what you wrote there.

The decline of hurling in Belfast I'm sure has been discussed a million times on here isn't too hard to understand. It's a cultural thing. For a whole generation or more now GAA kids haven't witnessed Div 1 hurling at their clubs outside of Rossa and St John's. We don't have your parish rule thing. We are genuinely competing with other sports. Football is easier. Parents like GAA but also like soccer so hurling is seen as the third person on the date so to speak.

There are small shoots of green and I hope they continue work away. Football is a different cattle of fish though. Loads of clubs focusing on football and it is going well in the city so it's not that the clubs aren't good GAA clubs. They clearly are. It's just a cultural inclination towards football overall which is hard to take as a hurling man in the city.

So to answer a previous point it isn't the fault of NA clubs that City hurling isn't in a great position but does that mean 1) that you don't showcase one of the biggest games in the club calendar there and 2) St John's have already had to travel.

St. Johns have already had to travel? Cushendall isn't in Dunloy you know. We had to travel too and we'll be travelling to get to Ballycastle as well. The game has to be played at a neutral venue so that's Corrigan out. Lamh Dearg have the side of their pitch dug up so that's out too. Do you want to play at Sarsfields where you have to look through keep nets? Rossa where you've about 40 yards of concrete steps along one side to accommodate everyone? Where else do you want the game to be? Ballymena? There is an Ulster Junior fixture there at the same time. It may have escaped your attention but the Johnnies manager has been on The Saffron Gael and today's Irish News saying they are more than happy to hurl in Dunloy or Ballycastle. So if the manager is happy enough going to Ballycastle what's your agenda?
   If you want to solve Belfast's hurling woes then stop blaming others and waiting on someone else to sort the problem. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2018, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Wanting to bring my kid to see a senior championship game in Belfast without having to drive 80 mile round trip journeys is now called having an agenda.

Wind your neck in, angry boy.

I agree with what you are saying, but it's a reality of where we are at as a county.

It's embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 12, 2018, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Wanting to bring my kid to see a senior championship game in Belfast without having to drive 80 mile round trip journeys is now called having an agenda.

Wind your neck in, angry boy.

80 mile round trip not worth it? Us down the country ran to Casement several times every season. It was a pleasure to do it. It's motorway from Belfast until about 10 miles out of Ballycastle, 2 out of Dunloy. If Ballycastle is too long for you to travel to a senior semi final/ Minor final double header then stay at home. There were plenty of senior championship games in Belfast this year. Rossa V St. Johns, Sarsfields V Cushendall, St. Johns V Ballycastle. But keep stamping your feet like a spoilt child there. Never worry about there being no suitable venues in Belfast to host the game, we'll hurl up and down the Andersonstown Road so you don't have to spend a 5er on red diesel. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 13, 2018, 11:12:48 AM
Ballycastle pitch in gutters & camogie blitz not helping the surface;

Will be tough underfoot for tomorrow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 13, 2018, 11:51:39 AM
Clearing up a wee job around the coast this morning and was in Ballycastle for a fry. Hasn't stopped raining all morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 13, 2018, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 13, 2018, 11:12:48 AM
Ballycastle pitch in gutters & camogie blitz not helping the surface;

Will be tough underfoot for tomorrow

Yeah but Antrim playing so late in the year (in both codes) has meant there was no way we could have had our championship wrapped up any earlier in the year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 14, 2018, 04:27:43 AM
rednecks goin on about visiting Belfast for county finals.we are talking about semi finals here.i can assure you that you always had your fair share of semis played in the country,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 14, 2018, 06:03:32 AM
Quote from: jftj on October 14, 2018, 04:27:43 AM
rednecks goin on about visiting Belfast for county finals.we are talking about semi finals here.i can assure you that you always had your fair share of semis played in the country,

You chip eaters didn't often get as far as the semi finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 14, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Dunloy winning 8 to 4 ht in Minor final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 14, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Dunloy winning 8 to 4 ht in Minor final

Bother in the crowd again?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
Ref in the minor final today was brutal. I said last week about not referring senior games he shouldn't be near a minor game either. He lost the game and he almost let it break out at the end due to his awful decisions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2018, 07:16:36 PM
Let's not ref bash. The man does his best when others don't bother
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 14, 2018, 07:21:17 PM
2 posts so far...about 1 individual.  You probably wouldn't have a clue about how to even toss a coin at the start, never mind anything after that. Complete idiot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 14, 2018, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
Ref in the minor final today was brutal. I said last week about not referring senior games he shouldn't be near a minor game either. He lost the game and he almost let it break out at the end due to his awful decisions.

He didn't almost let anything break out. The referee doesn't control how other people behave.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 07:32:17 PM
Good to see a Belfast team give a good account of themselves again today. Not too far off the pace at the top end of things and room for improvement as a lot of them look young enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on October 14, 2018, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
Ref in the minor final today was brutal. I said last week about not referring senior games he shouldn't be near a minor game either. He lost the game and he almost let it break out at the end due to his awful decisions.

I'm trying to work out if you are a gobshite or a gabshite !  ::)
Do you shout out loud at matches, or just silent writing ?

Ps a few more posts and I'll have the answer...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on October 14, 2018, 08:35:40 PM
Thought the minor game was probably just a little bit better than the senior game . When will the replay be because of the school matches ? Surely it has to be before the senior final . Credit to our volunteers today and yesterday as I thought the pitch was in great shape considering all the rain yesterday . And guess what it's not always windy in Ballycastle 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on October 14, 2018, 08:56:11 PM
2 even matches today , fair play to St. John's for fighting back after that start surely it can only be good for Antrim hurling the more competitive teams we have , another good crowd and when the winds not blowing a gale ballycastle the best venue for watching a match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2018, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 14, 2018, 07:32:17 PM
Good to see a Belfast team give a good account of themselves again today. Not too far off the pace at the top end of things and room for improvement as a lot of them look young enough.

If i were a st johns fan i'd be sore losing that. Could have won that game. I wouldn't say should have but definitely could have. Was ciaran johnston still on second half? I wasn't sure. Too many free misses both sides late on. St johns will obviously rue them more.

Minor game entertaining. Good comeback by Loughgiel.

Didn't see any scuffle in crowd though something seemed to be going on in Dunloy dugout area late on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2018, 08:58:26 PM
P.s. I think i got sun burnt.... In ballycastle... In october!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:00:05 PM
Playwiththewind1st.  Wise up. Ref hadn't a clue simple as that. One example. He gave a free for a throw ball from 20 yards away and directly behind the player. How would he see if the ball was thrown or hand passed. Plus he had to see through two other players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 14, 2018, 09:22:37 PM
I'm quite sure that the Referees' Committee will be glad to avail of your services & your in-depth knowledge next season. Instead of you just leaning on the fence & spouting, followed by a bit of  anonymous posting on here. That's way too easy, pal. Grow a set & do something constructive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Entitled to my opinion same as you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2018, 09:41:35 PM
Any comment on the actual hurling? Or are you just here to antagonise mr?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
Again entitled to my opinion same as you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2018, 09:45:37 PM
That's a no then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 14, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Entitled to my opinion same as you.

Yeh...but I refereed up to & including SHC, so I have a little more insight perhaps than somebody who doesn't  know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 14, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
well done mark o neill in the senior game.lived up to all his expectations and his predecessors.james mclean take a bow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on October 14, 2018, 10:26:07 PM
I'm a Belfast Gael and couldn't agree more.

No club in Belfast has good enough parking facilities outside Corrigan.

If the drive is too much of a put off then don't go! Clearly doesn't mean enough to ya.

Quote from: Jesusjones on October 12, 2018, 06:36:28 PM
Quote from: farset on October 12, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Wanting to bring my kid to see a senior championship game in Belfast without having to drive 80 mile round trip journeys is now called having an agenda.

Wind your neck in, angry boy.

80 mile round trip not worth it? Us down the country ran to Casement several times every season. It was a pleasure to do it. It's motorway from Belfast until about 10 miles out of Ballycastle, 2 out of Dunloy. If Ballycastle is too long for you to travel to a senior semi final/ Minor final double header then stay at home. There were plenty of senior championship games in Belfast this year. Rossa V St. Johns, Sarsfields V Cushendall, St. Johns V Ballycastle. But keep stamping your feet like a spoilt child there. Never worry about there being no suitable venues in Belfast to host the game, we'll hurl up and down the Andersonstown Road so you don't have to spend a 5er on red diesel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on October 14, 2018, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
Entitled to my opinion same as you.

Yeh...but I refereed up to & including SHC, so I have a little more insight perhaps than somebody who doesn't  know what they're talking about.

Are you serious.  So explain how a throw ball can be given when the referee firstly is 20 yards behind the player and secondly had two other players in the line of sight. Since your so knowledgeable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2018, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 14, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
well done mark o neill in the senior game.lived up to all his expectations and his predecessors.james mclean take a bow.

What did Mark do wrong? Got all the big calls correct and I wonder if he will report Brian McFall for the verbal abuse after the game?  St Johns will be kicking themselves tonight. Is McManus the only free taker in Cushendall? Also why play Paddy Burke, who in my opinion is the best CHB in the county at FB? Makes for a decent final! Shamrocks surely favourites. Also fair play to St Galls & Cushendun today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 14, 2018, 10:45:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2018, 08:58:26 PM
P.s. I think i got sun burnt.... In ballycastle... In october!
I got "tanned" in parnell Park in February
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 15, 2018, 06:50:12 AM
Someone start a referee comment board so the rest of us can talk about hurling.

Thought we were going to blow St. Johns out of the water after the start we had. Fair play to them to come back at us the way they did. They are a coming team and if they keep the team together they can win a championship over the next few years. I was delighted when I seen Ciaran Johnson line out at centre back. He did a lot of damage a fortnight ago at centre forward.
   Thought we were too slow making changes. Eunan McKillop made a difference for the little time he got. Some balls on young Emmett Laverty coming on and nailing that last free. We might have to start him in the final just to hit frees. Sean McAfee should see more game time as well. The most pleasing thing was that we responded in both games when it looked like we were in serious trouble. Natty was brilliant for us and our best play wen't through him. Graffin lead from the front as well, what a man. Delighted with Fred McCurry too. A few things didn't go his way early on but he didn't drop the head and came into the game well as things progressed.
   Having eliminated the reigning champions and given we struggled past St. Johns then Loughgiel have to start as favorites but as usual there will be very little between the teams and no reason we can't win it either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 08:56:06 AM
disappointed in how we played in the minor match. we didnt seem to get going at all. a lot dropped ball and fumbles at the wrong time against a Lgiel team who looked to be working much harder than we did. They fully deserved a draw right at the death.

Senior game started with a bang from Cdall and then they seemed to slow down and allow St Johns right back into it. St Johns will yet again kick themselves as they looked good for their lead at that point in the game. Good second half for the neutral to watch.

Cdall will need to look for a back up free take as they missed far too many at important parts of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on October 15, 2018, 08:57:16 AM
Quote from: Hurling fan on October 14, 2018, 09:00:05 PM
Playwiththewind1st.  Wise up. Ref hadn't a clue simple as that. One example. He gave a free for a throw ball from 20 yards away and directly behind the player. How would he see if the ball was thrown or hand passed. Plus he had to see through two other players.

how the hell can you comment on what the ref did or didn't see? have you some sort of technology that lets you do this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 09:03:24 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 14, 2018, 10:41:48 PM
Quote from: jftj on October 14, 2018, 10:07:19 PM
well done mark o neill in the senior game.lived up to all his expectations and his predecessors.james mclean take a bow.

What did Mark do wrong? Got all the big calls correct and I wonder if he will report Brian McFall for the verbal abuse after the game?  St Johns will be kicking themselves tonight. Is McManus the only free taker in Cushendall? Also why play Paddy Burke, who in my opinion is the best CHB in the county at FB? Makes for a decent final! Shamrocks surely favourites. Also fair play to St Galls & Cushendun today.

Not getting into a referee bashing debate, but I think when Mark looks back at the video he will see that he got a fair bit wrong.
Both ways to be fair and dont think it had an influence on the result of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 15, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
I never seen the very last free awarded to cushendall,  it looked like the St Johns player won a tussle and ran on to  the ball and was blown up ; Should it have been a free in for dall? or should the St Johns player have been allowed to continue on ? Any neutrals see it

Thought St Johns played the better hurling, the loss of their full back in the last few minutes was a big miss, some bad misses from frees by both teams, but there is no doubting that St Johns are serious title contenders. The Dall defenders seem to struggle with the pace of the st johns forwards when they ran at them.  It was a hugely enjoyable day of hurling well worth the journey &  £8 entry fee.

As previously stated stillthink that Cushedun will win Ulster & possibly the AI
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
JJ was Ciaran Johnston not number 11? He was playing in the forwards for at least the first half and causing problems?

I am not sure where he went in the second half.

Both teams should have changed their free taker earlier.

Cushendall have for years now been susceptible to pace running at the centre of their defense. That was again a big issue yesterday and one that could have seen them beat.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 11:20:34 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
JJ was Ciaran Johnston not number 11? He was playing in the forwards for at least the first half and causing problems?

I am not sure where he went in the second half.

Both teams should have changed their free taker earlier.

Cushendall have for years now been susceptible to pace running at the centre of their defense. That was again a big issue yesterday and one that could have seen them beat.

No Ciaran was 6 green helmet, Conor was playing centre forward more or less yellow helmet.

Peter McCallin was number 11, St Johns didnt go with the programmed numbers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Aha my mistake.

Whoever 11 was seemed to disappear 2nd half. (If he he was taken off I didn't notice!)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Aha my mistake.

Whoever 11 was seemed to disappear 2nd half. (If he he was taken off I didn't notice!)

Did he not score the goal, he doubled on it in mid air from the hand pass across? Maybe I am wrong.

To be fair St Johns style leaves them very light up front and any one playing along the half forward line for them rarely spends much time in the attacking half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on October 15, 2018, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Aha my mistake.

Whoever 11 was seemed to disappear 2nd half. (If he he was taken off I didn't notice!)

Did he not score the goal, he doubled on it in mid air from the hand pass across? Maybe I am wrong.

To be fair St Johns style leaves them very light up front and any one playing along the half forward line for them rarely spends much time in the attacking half.



Number 11 McCallin set up the first goal and scored the second goal, along with winning frees throughout, impressive from where I was standing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jftj on October 15, 2018, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 15, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
I never seen the very last free awarded to cushendall,  it looked like the St Johns player won a tussle and ran on to  the ball and was blown up ; Should it have been a free in for dall? or should the St Johns player have been allowed to continue on ? Any neutrals see it

Thought St Johns played the better hurling, the loss of their full back in the last few minutes was a big miss, some bad misses from frees by both teams, but there is no doubting that St Johns are serious title contenders. The Dall defenders seem to struggle with the pace of the st johns forwards when they ran at them.  It was a hugely enjoyable day of hurling well worth the journey &  £8 entry fee.

As previously stated stillthink that Cushedun will win Ulster & possibly the AI
was pretty level with that one .cushendall man was 5 yards behind his man and tripped himself up.free to dall.of all his bad calls,that was the crème de la creme
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 11:42:29 AM
yes thought peter was very impressive should have had 3/4 frees in the first half after a few rash tackles from Kearny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on October 15, 2018, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 11:25:54 AM
Aha my mistake.

Whoever 11 was seemed to disappear 2nd half. (If he he was taken off I didn't notice!)

Did he not score the goal, he doubled on it in mid air from the hand pass across? Maybe I am wrong.

To be fair St Johns style leaves them very light up front and any one playing along the half forward line for them rarely spends much time in the attacking half.



Number 11 McCallin set up the first goal and scored the second goal, along with winning frees throughout, impressive from where I was standing

Definitely first half and I think he may have been far side second half and I couldn't see his number as I was getting pretty blinded by the sun.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 15, 2018, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 15, 2018, 11:42:29 AM
yes thought peter was very impressive should have had 3/4 frees in the first half after a few rash tackles from Kearny
Maybe but these things even themselves out. Thought Conor Carson should have been awarded a few frees in the first half. Just cause he is a big lad doesn't mean he shouldn't frees when he is fouled.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 15, 2018, 12:02:17 PM
Final in two weeks?
Will it be double header with minor replay? If it is then it will have to be in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
hearing last night that the minor replay is going to be next sunday before the senior game. The Mageean cup will have to be moved as neither club will be releasing their players for the game.
Its either in Ballycastle or Dunloy from what i was told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 15, 2018, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
hearing last night that the minor replay is going to be next sunday before the senior game. The Mageean cup will have to be moved as neither club will be releasing their players for the game.
Its either in Ballycastle or Dunloy from what i was told.

Could hardly be in Dunloy with your minors involved DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: cfclg on October 15, 2018, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 12:04:38 PM
hearing last night that the minor replay is going to be next sunday before the senior game. The Mageean cup will have to be moved as neither club will be releasing their players for the game.
Its either in Ballycastle or Dunloy from what i was told.

Could hardly be in Dunloy with your minors involved DR?

I have heard that the minor teams will have no impact on where the final is held. It will be to suit the senior game.

Be interesting to see if the Mageean match gets moved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
match is in Ballycastle

Minor game at 1pm

senior game at 3pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 15, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
match is in Ballycastle

Minor game at 1pm

senior game at 3pm

The town getting some turn this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 15, 2018, 01:40:53 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 15, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 15, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
match is in Ballycastle

Minor game at 1pm

senior game at 3pm

The town getting some turn this year.

Any chance someone could lend them a PA system?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
 ;D

I second that.

Tell us when subs come on, when there's a change to the line up and when the national anthem or a minute's silence is happening!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
;D

I second that.

Tell us when subs come on, when there's a change to the line up and when the national anthem or a minute's silence is happening!!

haha i was thinking the same myself yesterday. I thought it was a mins silence and not the anthem.

Be nice to hear it as that young girl who sings it deserves to have her talent heard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2018, 03:50:13 PM
double header in Ballycastle.Loughgiel underdogs in both
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on October 15, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
If it's not the wind it's the PA system haha. if you seen the clubs Twitter page they are working on PA system .. not too many people saying what a good job the club done yesterday .. always something to gurn about ..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2018, 03:50:13 PM
double header in Ballycastle.Loughgiel underdogs in both

naw. cant see it. massive favourites for both :D

sure we have a county final this weekend with the football. Lgiel lads well rested and no injuries with our boys playing a full hour of championship football.

be lucky if we can field in it lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2018, 04:51:18 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on October 15, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
If it's not the wind it's the PA system haha. if you seen the clubs Twitter page they are working on PA system .. not too many people saying what a good job the club done yesterday .. always something to gurn about ..

many times on here youll have seen posters compliment Ballycastle on what a great job they do for the county games and championship matches but sadly the PA system is something that needs looking at. We usually hire one in for the likes of a final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
It was a good job yesterday. No complaints bar PA system which was minor!! I always liked Ballycastle for those games bar the wind.

I saw somewhere it was 25 euros into the cork hurling final yesterday. Glad we're not paying as much as that but then I guess Páirc Uí Chaoimh doesn't pay for itself!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2018, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
It was a good job yesterday. No complaints bar PA system which was minor!! I always liked Ballycastle for those games bar the wind.

I saw somewhere it was 25 euros into the cork hurling final yesterday. Glad we're not paying as much as that but then I guess Páirc Uí Chaoimh doesn't pay for itself!
Down south ROI is Return on Investment, not Republic of Ireland.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 15, 2018, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 15, 2018, 03:50:13 PM
double header in Ballycastle.Loughgiel underdogs in both

Underdogs for the minor replay but please let us hear why exactly the team who dumped out the reigning champions are underdogs against a team who needed a replay to see off the johnnies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 15, 2018, 08:42:30 PM
Cushendall should be the favourites, i think St Johns are no mugs and those two matches will stand with the Dall (provided no injuries); Shamrocks forwards havent the speed that St Johns have and i just feel that the Dalls backs match better up against their forwards also the feis final Result - Shamrocks   1.12   v   3.15   Ruairi Og;

Just my opinion but its the Dall for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on October 18, 2018, 10:23:07 PM
Both games 50/50 , Dall slightly stronger starting 15 but shamrocks have more off the bench
In minors Dunloy have better players but shamrocks will be hard beat with a large vocal support.
My prediction is Dall by 2 and Dunloy by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Yeah I know some people think your man Sean Murray is some sort of social media guru but the twitter feed is a pain in the hole. I'm not on Facebook but Bannside reckons the Facebook page is the best in Ireland  ???

They dont seem to realise sometimes less is more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Yeah I know some people think your man Sean Murray is some sort of social media guru but the twitter feed is a pain in the hole. I'm not on Facebook but Bannside reckons the Facebook page is the best in Ireland  ???

They dont seem to realise sometimes less is more

At least have the respect to get his name right. It's Sean Kelly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Yeah I know some people think your man Sean Murray is some sort of social media guru but the twitter feed is a pain in the hole. I'm not on Facebook but Bannside reckons the Facebook page is the best in Ireland  ???

They dont seem to realise sometimes less is more

At least have the respect to get his name right. It's Sean Kelly

Aye that's what I meant to type, don't shite yourself. Didn't realise he was royalty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Yeah I know some people think your man Sean Murray is some sort of social media guru but the twitter feed is a pain in the hole. I'm not on Facebook but Bannside reckons the Facebook page is the best in Ireland  ???

They dont seem to realise sometimes less is more

At least have the respect to get his name right. It's Sean Kelly

Aye that's what I meant to type, don't shite yourself. Didn't realise he was royalty

He's doing a decent job, fair play to him. Maybe you should take a leaf out of his book and be a bit nicer to people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 21, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 21, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on October 21, 2018, 10:16:58 PM
I think I'm showing my age but had to unfollow the Antrim GAA social media accounts. Worse than my wee brother and sister on a night out.
Yeah I know some people think your man Sean Murray is some sort of social media guru but the twitter feed is a pain in the hole. I'm not on Facebook but Bannside reckons the Facebook page is the best in Ireland  ???

They dont seem to realise sometimes less is more

At least have the respect to get his name right. It's Sean Kelly

Aye that's what I meant to type, don't shite yourself. Didn't realise he was royalty

He's doing a decent job, fair play to him. Maybe you should take a leaf out of his book and be a bit nicer to people.

We are all entitled to our opinions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 22, 2018, 06:59:54 AM
The man posts loads of score updates, travels to games all over Ireland, uploads videos and the rest. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 22, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
I've a massive respect for the man. He travels to games all over the country and within our county. He covers everything and shares it all to help the promotion of our clubs.

He does a great job and I hope that he's still doing this job for the foreseeable future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 22, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
Not Sure about Sean Murray and his PRO skills. Oh wait he isn't the PRO  :-X

Sean Kelly does a fantastic job he covers matches day and daily and his social media output is as good as any PRO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 22, 2018, 11:44:45 AM
Sean Kelly has been held back by the county and I know this for a fact. There is plenty of other things he'd like to do but has been hampered by the powers that be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 22, 2018, 12:11:10 PM
Division 2 all over - see Oisins & Paddies finish on same points but Oisins better score difference; I am assuming Oisins stay up but dont know;

But we have a team that played in Senior championship and are probably relegated to Div 3 - thats not good for them nor the competition;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 22, 2018, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 22, 2018, 12:11:10 PM
Division 2 all over - see Oisins & Paddies finish on same points but Oisins better score difference; I am assuming Oisins stay up but dont know;

But we have a team that played in Senior championship and are probably relegated to Div 3 - thats not good for them nor the competition;

Sarsfields relegated on head to head
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 22, 2018, 04:28:18 PM
this day next week they'll be two small parishes with sore heads for two very different reasons  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 24, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
Colm Cunning refereeing the senior game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 24, 2018, 01:43:11 PM
seems like a good appointment - im sure both teams happy with Colm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 02:43:48 PM
skinny is a good appointment,   anymore news on possible county manager? i see MMS has taken his hat from the ring. Woody reckons we're 6 players short  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 24, 2018, 02:54:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 02:43:48 PM
skinny is a good appointment,   anymore news on possible county manager? i see MMS has taken his hat from the ring. Woody reckons we're 6 players short  :o

Already sorted I heard on Sunday..

Whiterock/Dunloy dream team ready to be ratified with them concentrating on getting club hurling up to a good standard as part of the process in getting the IC game up a few notches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 03:14:39 PM
club hurling in antrim has taken a bit of a step forward no?  First time in a long time where we've had 4 teams at semi final stage with genuine chance, normally a dead rubber of a semi.I feel if Rossa put a tiny bit more effort in that they'd also make the break through, they aren't miles behind St. john's if at all behind them, they missed at least 5 starters in championship this year, The Town seem to be gone the other way and haven't pushed on from there championship final appearance the way you'd have hoped. immigration a serious problem for that team. Antrim club hurling standard wise wouldn't be my issue, the fact antrim was out of everything by june 15th and club championship is only getting read up in late october would be an issue for me. being honest and it's hard to say, Antrim isn't going anywhere soon, so let the players play with the clubs and pick your selected panel and team on a daily basis based on fitness and form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
would a south antrim select be a bad idea again for championship only. a lot of the clubs outside of st. john's & rossa all have 3/4 fine hurlers which could hurl at senior level, let them play away in there respected club championship but get together for senior a month maybe in advance. Sarsfield, St. paul's, lamb dhearg, gortnamona, st galls and more.  all these clubs have a handful of fine hurlers. i no this has been tried before but if it was pushed i believe it could work 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 24, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 03:14:39 PM
club hurling in antrim has taken a bit of a step forward no?  First time in a long time where we've had 4 teams at semi final stage with genuine chance, normally a dead rubber of a semi.I feel if Rossa put a tiny bit more effort in that they'd also make the break through, they aren't miles behind St. john's if at all behind them, they missed at least 5 starters in championship this year, The Town seem to be gone the other way and haven't pushed on from there championship final appearance the way you'd have hoped. immigration a serious problem for that team. Antrim club hurling standard wise wouldn't be my issue, the fact antrim was out of everything by june 15th and club championship is only getting read up in late october would be an issue for me. being honest and it's hard to say, Antrim isn't going anywhere soon, so let the players play with the clubs and pick your selected panel and team on a daily basis based on fitness and form.

Been saying this a while now. All focus should be on improving club teams and forget about IC hurling success in the short term. Its a long term strategy that needs good foundations laid now by the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 24, 2018, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
would a south antrim select be a bad idea again for championship only. a lot of the clubs outside of st. john's & rossa all have 3/4 fine hurlers which could hurl at senior level, let them play away in there respected club championship but get together for senior a month maybe in advance. Sarsfield, St. paul's, lamb dhearg, gortnamona, st galls and more.  all these clubs have a handful of fine hurlers. i no this has been tried before but if it was pushed i believe it could work

The same idea was tried with a North Antrim team in the senior hurling championship a few years ago.

It only lasted a year, mainly due to the logistics of it and distance between the clubs.

A South Antrim team in the SHC might not be a bad idea especially as any clubs involved would be quite close to each other
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 24, 2018, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 24, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
would a south antrim select be a bad idea again for championship only. a lot of the clubs outside of st. john's & rossa all have 3/4 fine hurlers which could hurl at senior level, let them play away in there respected club championship but get together for senior a month maybe in advance. Sarsfield, St. paul's, lamb dhearg, gortnamona, st galls and more.  all these clubs have a handful of fine hurlers. i no this has been tried before but if it was pushed i believe it could work

The same idea was tried with a North Antrim team in the senior hurling championship a few years ago.

It only lasted a year, mainly due to the logistics of it and distance between the clubs.

A South Antrim team in the SHC might not be a bad idea especially as any clubs involved would be quite close to each other
under the right guidence and a bit of a push put towards it i think it works,  hasn't something similar happened in cork with imokilly.  small intermediate clubs get together and have won out in the last couple of years, can't go outside the county but it would go towards strengthening the club seen even more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 25, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
Big games this weekend with our county final and our intermediate champions both in Ulster championship games. My Predictions for these are

Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Cushendall by 2
St Galls vs Swatragh - St Galls by 2
Cushendun vs Sean Treacys - Cushendun by 4

Is there any word on CJ McGourtys red card appeal?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on October 25, 2018, 11:28:06 PM
Any word on potential county management?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2018, 03:00:04 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 25, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
Big games this weekend with our county final and our intermediate champions both in Ulster championship games. My Predictions for these are

Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Cushendall by 2
St Galls vs Swatragh - St Galls by 2
Cushendun vs Sean Treacys - Cushendun by 4

Is there any word on CJ McGourtys red card appeal?
loughgiel by 4
Swatragh by 1
Cushendun by 7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2018, 03:01:04 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on October 25, 2018, 11:28:06 PM
Any word on potential county management?
asked the same question earlier in the week, hearing two different names but nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 26, 2018, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 26, 2018, 03:01:04 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on October 25, 2018, 11:28:06 PM
Any word on potential county management?
asked the same question earlier in the week, hearing two different names but nothing has been confirmed to my knowledge

Very reliable source all the same  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 26, 2018, 12:32:01 PM
Cushendall by 5
Dunloy by 3
St. Galls by 4
Cushendun by 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2018, 01:05:16 PM
Loughgiel by 1
Dunloy by 6
St Galls by 2
Cushendun by 9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on October 27, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
If I'm wrong with my predictions I'll never post ever again!

Dunloy Minors will win at a canter, 10+.

Likewise Cushendall will outwit, outmuscle and ultimately outplay Loughgiel and win comfortably.

Cushendall by 7-10 to put the icing on the cake of a what will be a disastrous 9 days, 4 defeats for Loughgiel in finals!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 27, 2018, 06:31:12 PM
Quote from: Hirty Darry on October 27, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
If I'm wrong with my predictions I'll never post ever again!

Dunloy Minors will win at a canter, 10+.

Likewise Cushendall will outwit, outmuscle and ultimately outplay Loughgiel and win comfortably.

Cushendall by 7-10 to put the icing on the cake of a what will be a disastrous 9 days, 4 defeats for Loughgiel in finals!
now i think about it your the man that said dunloy was going to blow holes in loughgiel  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on October 28, 2018, 12:11:53 PM
Good luck to all the teams today. It looks like we're getting a good day for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 28, 2018, 12:21:05 PM
Up the Shamrocks!

Hoping for two wins, would be happy with one (either game) but big test in each.

Good luck lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 28, 2018, 08:46:39 PM
I thought it was a thoroughly enjoyable day today. Two exciting games, thought the minor match was very good and the ability to get  goals got Cushendall over the line. The weather was good for October but the sun was an issue in the senior match especially in the second half. Very big crowd and a good atmosphere. Games played in the right spirit and well refereed. I suspect Loughgiel may have some issues with the last free in the minor match but they should be proud of how they hurled in the second half of that game as they came back really well. On the senior game Cushendalls big players carried them over the line with, Natty, Carson and Ryan Mccambridge showing well as well as the entire back line. Eoin Campbell played the sweeper role very well although Loughgiel utilised the Cushendall sweeper system to work their puck outs beautifully all day. James McNaughton is a joy to watch, probably the best player on the park in a losing team.
Congratulations to Cushendall and Dunloy, hard luck to Loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
I would agree with all of that. Good day's entertainment.

When do we start slagging mr  ;)(that's a joke mr ;D)

I thought delargy for cushendall maybe motm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 29, 2018, 08:31:13 AM
Cushendall well worth their victory, McManus superb as was Natty McNaughton but it's unfair to pick out a MOTM. Did Bouncy have a save to make? Tiernan Coyle and James McNaughton battles hard for Loughiel. The game was played on Cushendalls terms I thought. Also I thought Skinny had a decent game and showed why he is the best in the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on October 29, 2018, 09:08:33 AM
McManus , Motm for me, best player in the county for what he brings overall to any team he's on the pitch with. Loughgiel won't have slept well last night having been able to stay for most of the game not playing that well. Plenty they would have done different on another day but we've all been in those shoes. Congratulations to the Ruiaris.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2018, 09:12:56 AM
Goals win games and in this case, championships, the first goal for me allowed Cushendall to win the match, well executed by a fabulous catch from Carson, good vision and great support play to finish it off..
Cushendall got their match ups right and as said here already, Loughgiel played a game that suited Cushendall, very little width from Loughgiel meant that Cushendall would come out with the ball during most of the tussles.
Loughgiel didn't come out at half time it seemed, for me the changes didn't have the effect they'd have hoped, another day a different result but there was an intent by the Dall not to lose this one and they held on handy enough to win it.
Neil was all over the pitch wining ball and making great clearances his couple of catches under the crossbar were great to see and MOTM for me.
As for the officiating of the match, there were no issues at all during the whole game, Skinny talks all  through the game and delivers the reasons to why the foul has been given and while players may not always agree there was no talk back and that was shown by the amount of time the ball was moved forward for dissent, which was none, think moved forward for hitting the ball away once..
Well done to Ballycastle on delivering again, they were right out on the roads allowing the cars to get away as quick as they can considering the amount of cars there.. also for the way they handled the match day.

So Ballycran cause an upset, can they cause another? I doubt it Cushendall are like a juggernaut at the minute, so hopefully another ulster title for the Antrim champs..

Oh and well done Dunloy, another double and 4 in a row at Minior healthy set up but as Cushendall proved today they have no plans to go away or step down..

Loughgiel will probably have a rethink, maybe some retirements there, a lot of miles on the clock and they have something that both Dunloy and Cushendall want, its up to them to step up and deliver!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2018, 10:30:47 AM
Where will Ulster final be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 10:36:47 AM
Owenbeg but outside chance of Athletic Grounds
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on October 29, 2018, 11:46:24 AM
Owenbeg would be a long trip for ballycran.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 29, 2018, 11:57:08 AM
couldn't disagree with anything jesusjones said. wherever the post went it was spot on,  Cdall deservedly winners on the day.  got there match ups spot on. jesus but times flys in a county final ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: ardtole on October 29, 2018, 11:46:24 AM
Owenbeg would be a long trip for ballycran.

I think Ballygalget play S'neil there a couple of years ago.  But it was a semi-final? 

Maybe Armagh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 29, 2018, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: ardtole on October 29, 2018, 11:46:24 AM
Owenbeg would be a long trip for ballycran.

I think Ballygalget play S'neil there a couple of years ago.  But it was a semi-final? 

Maybe Armagh?

We played S'Neill in Armagh last year in the final, I think Armagh is a great stadium and the pitch was in pristine condition.
Owenbeg is a bit of a bog at this time of the year.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2018, 04:16:28 PM
IOwenbeg was drained during the summer I think so that's not a problem now afaik.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on October 29, 2018, 04:16:39 PM
Surely theyll play it at Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 29, 2018, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on October 29, 2018, 04:16:39 PM
Surely theyll play it at Corrigan

I'd say Ballycran could play hardball on that one as its an Antrim venue if they so choose.

Maybe toss for it like back in the old days. It would be nice to have an Ulster Club championship game in the Ards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on October 29, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
I'd guess ballycran would be happy enough to return to Corrigan park after beating slaughtneil there. Probably the most sensible venue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
JC did Ballygalget not play SN or KL one year in Corrigan not sure if it was a final or semi? I mind seeing highlights of the game on BBC Newsline.

Credit is due to St John's for the arrangements for yesterdays games, I didn't see much wrong with anything and the weather played its part, on a poor wet day it may be different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: TheGeneral on October 30, 2018, 12:09:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2018, 09:12:56 AM
Goals win games and in this case, championships, the first goal for me allowed Cushendall to win the match, well executed by a fabulous catch from Carson, good vision and great support play to finish it off..
Cushendall got their match ups right and as said here already, Loughgiel played a game that suited Cushendall, very little width from Loughgiel meant that Cushendall would come out with the ball during most of the tussles.
Loughgiel didn't come out at half time it seemed, for me the changes didn't have the effect they'd have hoped, another day a different result but there was an intent by the Dall not to lose this one and they held on handy enough to win it.
Neil was all over the pitch wining ball and making great clearances his couple of catches under the crossbar were great to see and MOTM for me.
As for the officiating of the match, there were no issues at all during the whole game, Skinny talks all  through the game and delivers the reasons to why the foul has been given and while players may not always agree there was no talk back and that was shown by the amount of time the ball was moved forward for dissent, which was none, think moved forward for hitting the ball away once..
Well done to Ballycastle on delivering again, they were right out on the roads allowing the cars to get away as quick as they can considering the amount of cars there.. also for the way they handled the match day.

So Ballycran cause an upset, can they cause another? I doubt it Cushendall are like a juggernaut at the minute, so hopefully another ulster title for the Antrim champs..

Oh and well done Dunloy, another double and 4 in a row at Minior healthy set up but as Cushendall proved today they have no plans to go away or step down..

Loughgiel will probably have a rethink, maybe some retirements there, a lot of miles on the clock and they have something that both Dunloy and Cushendall want, its up to them to step up and deliver!


Must agree with Skinny being the best in the county atm, he refereed alot of our underage games. And one thing i was always very impressed with was his vocalisation of his calls. Even during play youd of got a comment - good tackle, play on etc not massive things but at underage i think it was a great thing.

Firm but fair.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 06:50:07 AM
I'd rather go to Armagh or Owenbeg. Corrigan is a disaster for watching the game. There'll be Ulster football on the same weekend. Surely the right call is to have Cushendun on before Cushendall???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on October 30, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 06:50:07 AM
I'd rather go to Armagh or Owenbeg. Corrigan is a disaster for watching the game. There'll be Ulster football on the same weekend. Surely the right call is to have Cushendun on before Cushendall???
Football qfs are on this weekend then the semis in 2 weeks time, so the middle week should be free for the hurling bar there are replays.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 30, 2018, 08:16:11 AM
Sunday wasn't our day. Minors very unlucky, great wee team.

Seniors played into Cushendalls hands. They were better team on the day. Good luck to them in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on October 30, 2018, 10:10:31 AM
north antrim gael

'Sunday wasn't our day. Minors very unlucky, great wee team'

They are a great team surely and I thought start of the year we would win hurling in a canter with football being the tougher one to capture. Proved the opposite and over 120 minutes only 1 point was the difference between the 2 and that says it all. I was delighted we got over the line as it really could have went either way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
JC did Ballygalget not play SN or KL one year in Corrigan not sure if it was a final or semi? I mind seeing highlights of the game on BBC Newsline.

Credit is due to St John's for the arrangements for yesterdays games, I didn't see much wrong with anything and the weather played its part, on a poor wet day it may be different

Played KL in Corrigan a good few years ago, 10 plus.

Also played Loughgiel in Glen Maghera three years ago IIRC.

I'd be surprised if the UC set Corrigan as the venue albeit its equidistant but as Jesus points out awful to watch a game through wire fencing or on a grass bank in the pissing rain in the depths of winter.

Toss for it, Dall or at the Crans.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
JC did Ballygalget not play SN or KL one year in Corrigan not sure if it was a final or semi? I mind seeing highlights of the game on BBC Newsline.

Credit is due to St John's for the arrangements for yesterdays games, I didn't see much wrong with anything and the weather played its part, on a poor wet day it may be different

Played KL in Corrigan a good few years ago, 10 plus.

Also played Loughgiel in Glen Maghera three years ago IIRC.

I'd be surprised if the UC set Corrigan as the venue albeit its equidistant but as Jesus points out awful to watch a game through wire fencing or on a grass bank in the pissing rain in the depths of winter.

Toss for it, Dall or at the Crans.

Was the result a shock Johnny or did you think they had a chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
JC did Ballygalget not play SN or KL one year in Corrigan not sure if it was a final or semi? I mind seeing highlights of the game on BBC Newsline.

Credit is due to St John's for the arrangements for yesterdays games, I didn't see much wrong with anything and the weather played its part, on a poor wet day it may be different

Played KL in Corrigan a good few years ago, 10 plus.

Also played Loughgiel in Glen Maghera three years ago IIRC.

I'd be surprised if the UC set Corrigan as the venue albeit its equidistant but as Jesus points out awful to watch a game through wire fencing or on a grass bank in the pissing rain in the depths of winter.

Toss for it, Dall or at the Crans.

Was the result a shock Johnny or did you think they had a chance?

Ballycran are small and quick and the handful of big ones they have are slow as a wet week and TBH I'd a conversation on the Saturday night with senior member in Ballycran club and he came to the same conclusions as me when Clarke was down to referee it in that he's inclined to let a lot of spare arm "tackles" go and wouldn't have suited them especially in Corrigan.
I thought they'd a chance if they could keep the game open and use the width of the pitch and not allow SN to bulldoze them in the tackle but there's very few would have saw the margin of their victory coming.

The early goals where the SN keeper looked all at sea certainly would have helped them.
Gazza has a young fella just out of minor in midfield and he's a fantastic prospect. Unlike his Da, he's real pace about him. Great reader of the game for one so young.

It will be another uphill task for them in the final but I see one of their own reckons the Dall have a "soft underbelly" on Hoganstand but that's probably a hormone ridden teenager rambling from his sticky bed covers.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 30, 2018, 03:12:27 PM
Great result for Ballycran and it was, in fairness, coming. SN were lucky to beat KL's in Derry semi-final - very lucky as a matter of fact. They were comfortable v Banagher in final but looked very leggy and lacking energy.  The break will do them no harm.

Should be an interesting final. C'dall may have the experience to edge it. They hung in against St. John's the first day so they have that tenacity but so have Ballycran re: finish in Down final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 30, 2018, 04:57:44 PM
i had a feeling that Lgiel might have won on sunday due tho how they beat us and the fight and desire they showed. That didnt materialise on sunday and Cdall just had that bit more to get them the win.

Fully deserved to win it from start to finish. Wasnt a great game to watch but if who win who cares what it looks like.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Why would Newry suit Keady?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Why would Newry suit Keady?

Closer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Why would Newry suit Keady?

Closer?
Not a massive amount in it time-wise as shit roads from Keady to anywhere. Keady will be no pushover for your lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Why would Newry suit Keady?

Closer?
Not a massive amount in it time-wise as shit roads from Keady to anywhere. Keady will be no pushover for your lads.

My point was the match could go to Owenbeg, but its closer for them than us.

Swatragh were odds on favourites against in the semi, and we had to go to extra time, we were getting beat by Creggan a div 3 team until the last minute.. we are not the team from 9 years ago and I've never seen us beat Keady before and I've played against them a lot!

Keady are strong favourites for this, betting man will look to Keady.. We've a decent 15 but have watched Keady and they are strong and their 11 is the go to man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on October 31, 2018, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 30, 2018, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on October 29, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
JC did Ballygalget not play SN or KL one year in Corrigan not sure if it was a final or semi? I mind seeing highlights of the game on BBC Newsline.

Credit is due to St John's for the arrangements for yesterdays games, I didn't see much wrong with anything and the weather played its part, on a poor wet day it may be different

Played KL in Corrigan a good few years ago, 10 plus.

Also played Loughgiel in Glen Maghera three years ago IIRC.

I'd be surprised if the UC set Corrigan as the venue albeit its equidistant but as Jesus points out awful to watch a game through wire fencing or on a grass bank in the pissing rain in the depths of winter.

Toss for it, Dall or at the Crans.

Was the result a shock Johnny or did you think they had a chance?

Ballycran are small and quick and the handful of big ones they have are slow as a wet week and TBH I'd a conversation on the Saturday night with senior member in Ballycran club and he came to the same conclusions as me when Clarke was down to referee it in that he's inclined to let a lot of spare arm "tackles" go and wouldn't have suited them especially in Corrigan.
I thought they'd a chance if they could keep the game open and use the width of the pitch and not allow SN to bulldoze them in the tackle but there's very few would have saw the margin of their victory coming.

The early goals where the SN keeper looked all at sea certainly would have helped them.
Gazza has a young fella just out of minor in midfield and he's a fantastic prospect. Unlike his Da, he's real pace about him. Great reader of the game for one so young.

It will be another uphill task for them in the final but I see one of their own reckons the Dall have a "soft underbelly" on Hoganstand but that's probably a hormone ridden teenager rambling from his sticky bed covers.

Very good JC!   ;D

Cushendall a 'soft underbelly'. I don't think so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2018, 04:50:06 PM
Double header in Armagh on the 11th. C'Dun & C'Dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 31, 2018, 05:47:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 31, 2018, 04:50:06 PM
Double header in Armagh on the 11th. C'Dun & C'Dall

Some common sense at last.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 31, 2018, 09:32:17 PM
Sensible decision alright but bit of travel for both. Good facilities in Armagh though. Either that or Owenbeg.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 31, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 31, 2018, 09:32:17 PM
Sensible decision alright but bit of travel for both. Good facilities in Armagh though. Either that or Owenbeg.
Park in the CBS car park not the footpath youse hoors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 01, 2018, 12:04:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2018, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 30, 2018, 05:53:24 PM
Armagh is the best place for the game, it's a great stadium and great for watching a game. Owenbeg is brilliant but the wind can be a big issue. And for god sake Ulster Council make it a double header with Cushendun on before us.

Our game will be in Newry I'd imagine, though that would suit Keady, Cushendun play castleblaney so Armagh perfect for both teams and obviously fits well with the seniors
Why would Newry suit Keady?

Closer?
Not a massive amount in it time-wise as shit roads from Keady to anywhere. Keady will be no pushover for your lads.

My point was the match could go to Owenbeg, but its closer for them than us.

Swatragh were odds on favourites against in the semi, and we had to go to extra time, we were getting beat by Creggan a div 3 team until the last minute.. we are not the team from 9 years ago and I've never seen us beat Keady before and I've played against them a lot!

Keady are strong favourites for this, betting man will look to Keady.. We've a decent 15 but have watched Keady and they are strong and their 11 is the go to man.

BoyleSports don't agree as they have St Galls as 4/9 favourite with Keady being 2/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 01, 2018, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 31, 2018, 04:50:06 PM
Double header in Armagh on the 11th. C'Dun & C'Dall

good choice of venue for the games. Its a good drive down to it and theres plenty of covered areas to watch the game.

truth be told its what we would need rather than what we might possible maybe some day have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on November 01, 2018, 11:10:48 PM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on October 25, 2018, 11:28:06 PM
Any word on potential county management?

Any further news on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 02, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
great venue choice, Double header and a big crowd heading from the glens, not often that sense prevails
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2018, 03:52:58 PM
It's taken me a week to get over it.  ;)

Congrats to Cushendall and Dunloy minors. It just wasnt our day. Cushendall fully deserved their win. They won the major battles all over the field. Good luck in the Ulster final.

Armagh is a great venue to watch a game but it's a sandpit. Ground hurling won't be to the fore.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 04, 2018, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 04, 2018, 03:52:58 PM
It's taken me a week to get over it.  ;)

Congrats to Cushendall and Dunloy minors. It just wasnt our day. Cushendall fully deserved their win. They won the major battles all over the field. Good luck in the Ulster final.

Armagh is a great venue to watch a game but it's a sandpit. Ground hurling won't be to the fore.
The pitch for the Loughgiel v Slaughtneil Ulster Final was awful. Hope it has improved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Kevin Ryan according to the Irish news....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 05, 2018, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Kevin Ryan according to the Irish news....
seen that  :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 05, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 05, 2018, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 05, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Kevin Ryan according to the Irish news....
seen that  :P
Jesus wept.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 12:33:25 PM
Dinny not available?

Kevin probably thinks there is unfinished business here..

Now all you experts please forward your CV's and the new county executive will give you a chance ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
The lack of comment on the new manager says it all really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2018, 09:20:28 PM
Only saw this there now. Sie's comments will keep us entertained at least ;D

We could have done a lot worse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 05, 2018, 09:20:28 PM
Only saw this there now. Sie's comments will keep us entertained at least ;D

We could have done a lot worse.
I don't know how we'd expect anyone better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 05, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
Massive weekend coming up for our clubs in the Ulster finals. Ballycran will be confident after beating Slaughtneil and while I can see a tight enough game I expect Cushendall to win by around 4 points. In the intermediate final I wouldn't be surprised to see it finish level after the 60 minutes. Keady are the value bet in my opinion but hopefully St Galls can do it. In the junior I can't see past Cushendun i really think they are the best junior champions we have had in the last few years and while Castleblayney aren't any mugs at this level I see cushendun running out handy enough winners. Can't believe they are 11/8 with BoyleSports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 06, 2018, 07:02:06 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 05, 2018, 11:11:38 PM
Massive weekend coming up for our clubs in the Ulster finals. Ballycran will be confident after beating Slaughtneil and while I can see a tight enough game I expect Cushendall to win by around 4 points. In the intermediate final I wouldn't be surprised to see it finish level after the 60 minutes. Keady are the value bet in my opinion but hopefully St Galls can do it. In the junior I can't see past Cushendun i really think they are the best junior champions we have had in the last few years and while Castleblayney aren't any mugs at this level I see cushendun running out handy enough winners. Can't believe they are 11/8 with BoyleSports

11/8 for Cushendun is free money. They have been untouchable in Antrim and Ulster so far. I realise this may come back to bite me but I'm sticking my neck out. In the senior and intermediate finals it could go either way.

Kevin Ryan couldn't make progress a few years ago with a better panel of players than we have now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 06, 2018, 04:08:08 PM
Cushendun 8/15 now on Paddy Power and BoyleSports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 04:31:47 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 06, 2018, 04:08:08 PM
Cushendun 8/15 now on Paddy Power and BoyleSports

ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sheugh Water on November 06, 2018, 06:17:04 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 06, 2018, 04:08:08 PM
Cushendun 8/15 now on Paddy Power and BoyleSports


Got them at 11/8 in treb with Cushendall and keady
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 07, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
I made sure I was on first before I posted it here  :). I got a hefty bit on with Paddy Power at 6/4, BoyleSports would only let me have half my stake at 11/8, I got the rest on at 6/5 with them. It's my biggest bet this season bar backing St. John's at 11/8 in the first leg of their game versus Ballycastle.
My only worry with the Cushendun bets is the forecast weather
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 07, 2018, 08:12:39 AM
With award season starting - can I ask at what age shoul you start awarding player of the year / most improved etc. I am aware some clubs start at u6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !

He's not that old  ;D late 30's maybe.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2018, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 07, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
I made sure I was on first before I posted it here  :). I got a hefty bit on with Paddy Power at 6/4, BoyleSports would only let me have half my stake at 11/8, I got the rest on at 6/5 with them. It's my biggest bet this season bar backing St. John's at 11/8 in the first leg of their game versus Ballycastle.
My only worry with the Cushendun bets is the forecast weather

They wont have any issues , that bet is safe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 07, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !

He's not that old  ;D late 30's maybe.

He'd be 39-40.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 07, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !

He's not that old  ;D late 30's maybe.

He'd be 39-40.

Aye and MR2 is of a later vintage, a fine vintage all the same.   ;)

Don't think the bould PJ is with Keady this year, he was last year IIRC.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 07, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !

He's not that old  ;D late 30's maybe.

He'd be 39-40.

Aye and MR2 is of a later vintage, a fine vintage all the same.   ;)

Don't think the bould PJ is with Keady this year, he was last year IIRC.

He's only a nipper ffs! Oh to be 39 or 40 again!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on November 07, 2018, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 07, 2018, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 07, 2018, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 06, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
They were 6/4 this morning on Paddy power someones been reading the forum 😂

You've got to keep that stuff off line lol!

A great value bet is Keady tbh.. we'll give it a lash and see but I've said before we've not beaten them.. see McCormack was on team of the week, he must be near my age !

He's not that old  ;D late 30's maybe.

He'd be 39-40.

Aye and MR2 is of a later vintage, a fine vintage all the same.   ;)

Don't think the bould PJ is with Keady this year, he was last year IIRC.

He's only a nipper ffs! Oh to be 39 or 40 again!

Can you remember that far back lad????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 07, 2018, 03:06:55 PM
Too the shamrock men on here I see that Ballycastle and yourselfs have been told to play a playoff for the under 16 league after Ulster council ruled that Antrim's ruling was wrong .. any of use any clue about this
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 07, 2018, 04:42:15 PM
funny i had wondered what the outcome of this was. I noticed that both social media pages had it up that each other team had won the league but nothing official had been announced.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 07, 2018, 05:03:41 PM
Yeah it dragged on for a long time , not a good sign when Antrim don't even know the rules of there own league . Have watched the games this year between the 2 teams and they are both excellent teams so should make for an interesting game in the next couple of weeks if they get a pitch that will hold it .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on November 07, 2018, 06:06:55 PM
Why are ballycastle and loughgiel in a play off for u16s?

Under league regulation 3:07  would suggest loughgiel would be overall winners on scoring difference ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 07, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
I was told that it was something to do with the wording of that rule that could of been interpreted as either side could of won it . You can read the rule and have your on opinions on it . But I thought since BALLYCASTLE beat them in the league that should of been enough to win it .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on November 07, 2018, 06:20:55 PM
So  did Loughgiel appeal to Ulster council ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 07, 2018, 06:27:56 PM
Ballycastle appealed to Antrim about it and then must of went to Ulster Council. I'm not really sure as just going on  hearsay about it all. But obviously if Ulster changes it then must of been something in the ruling that wasn't right .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 08, 2018, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on November 07, 2018, 05:03:41 PM
Yeah it dragged on for a long time , not a good sign when Antrim don't even know the rules of there own league . Have watched the games this year between the 2 teams and they are both excellent teams so should make for an interesting game in the next couple of weeks if they get a pitch that will hold it .

We'd a debate with Antrim for the last few months about a game that wasn't played and we were to be awarded the points but for some reason weren't, but lo and behold the morning after we got beat by St Johns and our relegation confirmed we got the points.
If we'd have beaten St Johns we'd had the opportunity of a play off with Ballycran. St Johns were obviously coming of the back of a championship run and we'd been doing nothing for a good few weeks and the result wasn't really in doubt but we had a Ballycran referee at the helm and that IMO should never have happened either, put the lad in a no win situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 08, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Johnnycool

'We'd a debate with Antrim for the last few months about a game that wasn't played and we were to be awarded the points but for some reason werent'

The reason being Dunloy offered 3 dates which didn't suit Ballygalget so CCC then randomly fixed a date and because Dunloy didn't field on that date you then received the 2 points not just because you were all ready relegated. And Dunloy also lost a point for not fielding. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 09, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 08, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Johnnycool

'We'd a debate with Antrim for the last few months about a game that wasn't played and we were to be awarded the points but for some reason werent'

The reason being Dunloy offered 3 dates which didn't suit Ballygalget so CCC then randomly fixed a date and because Dunloy didn't field on that date you then received the 2 points not just because you were all ready relegated. And Dunloy also lost a point for not fielding.

We'd an email from the CCC after the first dates couldn't be agreed that the points were to be awarded to us as per the Antrim guidelines. if no agreement can be made the original date stands, correct? I understand the situation Dunloy were in with reserve championship and IIRC U21's but those are the rules, not my rules, Antrims rules.
Then we got another email a few weeks later stating that due to the importance of the game it was to be refixed for a date in October totally contrary to the rulebook. That game wasn't played either.

Evidently the importance of that game receded once we were confirmed as relegated.

Hence my point that sometimes you wonder are people making it up as they go along.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2018, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 09, 2018, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 08, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Johnnycool

'We'd a debate with Antrim for the last few months about a game that wasn't played and we were to be awarded the points but for some reason werent'

The reason being Dunloy offered 3 dates which didn't suit Ballygalget so CCC then randomly fixed a date and because Dunloy didn't field on that date you then received the 2 points not just because you were all ready relegated. And Dunloy also lost a point for not fielding.

We'd an email from the CCC after the first dates couldn't be agreed that the points were to be awarded to us as per the Antrim guidelines. if no agreement can be made the original date stands, correct? I understand the situation Dunloy were in with reserve championship and IIRC U21's but those are the rules, not my rules, Antrims rules.
Then we got another email a few weeks later stating that due to the importance of the game it was to be refixed for a date in October totally contrary to the rulebook. That game wasn't played either.

Evidently the importance of that game receded once we were confirmed as relegated.

Hence my point that sometimes you wonder are people making it up as they go along.

From what I have heard this was the problem and the fact that it ended up meaning very little in the wider context was a bit of luck. Think there will be a rethink on the fines associated with this one too.

Any more word on the County Manager?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on November 09, 2018, 11:22:23 AM
Any confirmation on juvenile age structures for next year? Are we moving to u15 etc?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Kevin Ryan has declined the Antrim hurling manager's position via his Twitter feed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 09, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
Maxpower as far as I know it's staying the same as this year . Really what would be the point of changing it ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Kevin Ryan has declined the Antrim hurling manager's position via his Twitter feed

Anyone else surprised by the selection committee?

On the juvenile structures, for the younger ones would it not make sense for NA to line up with primary school classes like everyone else seems to be doing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on November 09, 2018, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Kevin Ryan has declined the Antrim hurling manager's position via his Twitter feed

Anyone else surprised by the selection committee?

On the juvenile structures, for the younger ones would it not make sense for NA to line up with primary school classes like everyone else seems to be doing?

who is on the selection committee?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 09, 2018, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 09, 2018, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 09, 2018, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Kevin Ryan has declined the Antrim hurling manager's position via his Twitter feed

Anyone else surprised by the selection committee?

On the juvenile structures, for the younger ones would it not make sense for NA to line up with primary school classes like everyone else seems to be doing?

who is on the selection committee?

John McSparran, Colly Murphy and Ronan Heenan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 09, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Rumours of Anthony Cunningham or Anthony Daly for the county job, I think it's a nice idea
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on November 09, 2018, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 09, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Rumours of Anthony Cunningham or Anthony Daly for the county job, I think it's a nice idea

You would need deep pockets for that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 09, 2018, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 09, 2018, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: MoChara on November 09, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Rumours of Anthony Cunningham or Anthony Daly for the county job, I think it's a nice idea

You would need deep pockets for that

Never was happening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 09, 2018, 10:17:59 PM
Won't be Anthony Cunningham anyway as he getting the Roscommon football manager role
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 10, 2018, 09:08:25 AM
Predictions time
Dall by 4
Keady by 2
Dun by 7
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 10, 2018, 11:01:53 AM
Good luck to cushendall tomorrow
Might head down if wheather  holds up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2018, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 10, 2018, 09:08:25 AM
Predictions time
Dall by 4
Keady by 2
Dun by 7

Great price on Keady. 2/1 in places, obviously I'd be looking a win for us but I think the bookies may take a hammering, draw is a decent price
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sheugh Water on November 10, 2018, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 10, 2018, 09:08:25 AM
Predictions time
Dall by 4
Keady by 2
Dun by 7

I was convinced on keady earlier but think st galls could do it with the experience they have.
Castebkayney no mugs but cushendun are on the crest  of a 5 year wave. So they shouod do it.

Dall in the big one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 10, 2018, 07:45:38 PM
I'm going for an Antrim treble.

All the best and safe travels to all the fans.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: auld stock on November 10, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
Got a feeling our boys in the mood & will really turn up tomorrow.if they do we'll win by 7pts.if they dont we're in for a long evening. Up the 'dall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 02:38:33 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Kevin Ryan has declined the Antrim hurling manager's position via his Twitter feed
8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 11, 2018, 05:20:50 AM
Cushendall by 5
St Galls by 2
Cushendun by 4

Good luck to our clubs and hopefully they will have plenty to celebrate tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
Good luck to all the Antrim teams today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 11, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
Good luck to all the Antrim teams today.
ALL of them?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 11, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
Good luck to all the Antrim teams today.
ALL of them?!
yep   :P
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 11, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
11th November 2018...peace breaks out in Antrim GAA.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 11, 2018, 02:21:47 PM
Cushendun lost by a point. Hard luck.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
We hammered Keady, they were shite Tony Baloney!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 11, 2018, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
We hammered Keady, they were shite Tony Baloney!

You were the better team and thoroughly deserved your win but I wouldn't say you hammered Keady. The Dungannon ref in the first half rode Keady big time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 11, 2018, 04:30:35 PM
Tyrone ref sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on November 11, 2018, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
We hammered Keady, they were shite Tony Baloney!

You were the better team and thoroughly deserved your win but I wouldn't say you hammered Keady. The Dungannon ref in the first half rode Keady big time.

Ok we won by 7 points and we were the better team, I was winding up tony who thought we'd get it hard! Which we didn't, we won with 14 men for 30 minutes, job done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on November 11, 2018, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
We hammered Keady, they were shite Tony Baloney!

You were the better team and thoroughly deserved your win but I wouldn't say you hammered Keady. The Dungannon ref in the first half rode Keady big time.

Ok we won by 7 points and we were the better team, I was winding up tony who thought we'd get it hard! Which we didn't, we won with 14 men for 30 minutes, job done
great to c st galls had one of their own at the helm - Good luck for the All Ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 05:31:13 PM
Congrats to Cushendall and St. Galls. Gutted for the Emmets. The ref did them no favours. Here's  hoping for a speedy recovery for young Graffin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 11, 2018, 06:56:13 PM
Hard luck on Cushendun, nerves and a lack of experience maybe cost them at the end but been a super year for them and should hold their heads high. This experience will drive them on and they will be back. Good wins for St Galls and Cushendall, hope Graffin has a good speedy recovery from injury a fantastic hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on November 11, 2018, 07:53:49 PM
Great win from the lads, super performances from SD,  Graffin, Matty and MOM McManus who was unreal again today. Although I don't know why he has to take the abuse he got today 3 late strikes to the head and no Red Cards, the Ref was embarrassing, but no less so that the Ballycran players who obviously couldn't hurl him. Last word to Graff, what a player,  leader, Gent, he'll be back for Feb no doubt.
Sorry hard Luck to Emmett's lack of experience  both on and Off the field perhaps caught them out. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Being out on your own feels good. Doesn't it JJ? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Being out on your own feels good. Doesn't it JJ?  ::)

Out on their own without winning an all Ireland?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:23:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Being out on your own feels good. Doesn't it JJ?  ::)

Out on their own without winning an all Ireland?
Never thought of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 12, 2018, 12:34:48 AM
The standard of reffing in Ulster club championship at all levels leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Too many Ulster club matches turn into a free fest. We should appreciate the good standard in Antrim if you ask me.

On a separate note, a lot of chat that the castlbalney free that won the match was actually wide . I wasn't at an angle to offer an opinion but any views out there?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Being out on your own feels good. Doesn't it JJ?  ::)

Out on their own without winning an all Ireland?

We've won more Ulster championships than anyone else. Sorry for mentioning it and sorry for not genuflecting for you SIE. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 12, 2018, 08:30:39 AM
Quote from: podge on November 12, 2018, 12:34:48 AM
The standard of reffing in Ulster club championship at all levels leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Too many Ulster club matches turn into a free fest. We should appreciate the good standard in Antrim if you ask me.

On a separate note, a lot of chat that the castlbalney free that won the match was actually wide . I wasn't at an angle to offer an opinion but any views out there?

From where I was sitting I had thought it was wide, but when the flag went up I just took it that the umpire had got it right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2018, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:40:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 11, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.
Being out on your own feels good. Doesn't it JJ?  ::)

Out on their own without winning an all Ireland?

We've won more Ulster championships than anyone else. Sorry for mentioning it and sorry for not genuflecting for you SIE.
Well done. You're out on your own.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on November 12, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
Whats the damage to Graffin? Will he be available for the semi-final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 12, 2018, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 11, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Delighted to be Ulster champions and out on our own with 11. McManus unstoppable again. Gutted for Graffin but if anyone can come back from this it's him. Really disappointed by Ballycran some really dirty off the ball stuff as well as a few particularly bad pulls under the dropping ball as well. They should have had more players sent off.

I don't believe that those wee angels from Ballycran would be up to that. I thought it was only us.

Hope OE learned a valuable lesson if he was at that game yesterday as I am led to believe one of the wee angels involved in an incident with one of our lads in a league game was no sooner on the field and buried the hurl into the back of McManus.
Wonder if there'll be any letters sent to the Ulster Council like they send to Antrim CCC on the sly!!!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2018, 09:55:58 AM
I hear the semi and final are to be played before the end of the year. Any truth in this JJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:04:35 AM

McManus the class act in a poor game of hurling.

Ballycran free taking was as bad as I have ever seen at Senior level and how they beat Slaughtneil by  the score they did I do not know they were brutal and could easily have had 3/4 men sent off but the man from DONEGAL in the middle.. I'll say no more

Graffin with bad luck again hopefully he will be back on the pitch again soon never nice to see an injury like that to any player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 11:43:15 AM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:04:35 AM

McManus the class act in a poor game of hurling.

Ballycran free taking was as bad as I have ever seen at Senior level and how they beat Slaughtneil by  the score they did I do not know they were brutal and could easily have had 3/4 men sent off but the man from DONEGAL in the middle.. I'll say no more

Graffin with bad luck again hopefully he will be back on the pitch again soon never nice to see an injury like that to any player.

Donegal? Why in caps?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 12, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 12, 2018, 09:55:58 AM
I hear the semi and final are to be played before the end of the year. Any truth in this JJ?

According to the GAA.ie report its to be Feb, but I did read of the fixture committee thinking March was too busy

"Cushendall, in front of 3,742 in the Athletic Grounds, took full advantage. Despite only scoring one point in the second half until stoppage time, they finished strong with two Neil McManus frees and another from Eoghan Campbell to set up an All-Ireland semi-final against the Galway champions next February."

http://gaa.ie/hurling/news/cushendall-finish-strongly/

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 12, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
I just dont get why some folk on here are giving the referee a hard time. I thought he done a good job, didnt think it was a particularly physical or dirty match.  I didnt see any off the ball incidents that were not dealt with (thought the linesmen /umpires highlighted everything to the ref). I did see McManus trying to conn the ref a few times, over play acting - yep he did get a strike which was correctly punished - very similar to the picture that Curly captured of a Cdall Player striking a Crans player on the helmet.

Ballycran missed a lot of frees, McManus missed none. The Crans were too late in coming to the party and you cant miss scores like they did.  Natty once again when they were coming under pressure got a few scores (hes been immense all year) and he can last a full 60mins. Graffin was brilliant in chb as was Sean D. Mc Afee really threw himself about in FF and caused a lot of trouble also getting a good goal. McManus has been a class act all year for club & county.

Fingers crossed they can get to the final now and do us Antrim folk proud.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 03:43:39 PM
I thought the ref was ok too. Delargy being hit he couldn't see and one or two of the off the ball things he couldn't see either. General play he was ok.

Cushendall are brilliant at the back and McManus is playing maybe as well as he has ever played. They will really need to try and do something with their full forward line though as there is so much ball just goes in there and right back out. Carson should help though.

I always wonder why Eunan McKillop doesn't get more game time as he always makes a decent difference when he comes in.

McManus was massive yesterday. Paddy Burke was also superb as well. Great point that he scored.

Hope Graffin is ok. Really feel for him getting injured like that. As I saw complaints about very poor provisions for him yesterday and didn't look much in place for serious injuries.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played

But sure some refs is our own county are football refs and end up being very good hurling ref and vice versa.

Imagine the uproar if the Dall would of lost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played

But sure some refs is our own county are football refs and end up being very good hurling ref and vice versa.

Imagine the uproar if the Dall would of lost.

I don't care if the referee is from Donegal or if he referees football as well, it would be nice if he could answer how off the ball a player hits another in the balls, the linesman sees it, calls in the referee and tells him what happened and the referee gives a yellow card. Surely it's a red all day long?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
It seems to be the thing for a certain club at the minute to give off about refs!

I know refs that never played and referee pretty well

There are refs that never hurled but are great hurling refs and vice versa and because a ref has played both and refs both doesn't make him a better ref, it's how he applies the rules that counts..

At National level they are a step up from your run of the mill county refs (me) so it doesn't matter if they are from Donegal or Kilkenny they'll apply the rules

As for what the linesman seen in yesterday's game you don't know what he said to the ref!

Well done Cushendall, it takes you to lose a final or two to make it happen, so hopefully they'll get back to Croke again and give us another day out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on November 12, 2018, 08:22:34 PM
Congratulations to Cushendall and all the best in the semi , when dall have needed him the most McManus has stepped up and delivered.Now that club action is over for a while is there any news on the county manager ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 12, 2018, 08:25:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 03:43:39 PM
I thought the ref was ok too. Delargy being hit he couldn't see and one or two of the off the ball things he couldn't see either. General play he was ok.

Cushendall are brilliant at the back and McManus is playing maybe as well as he has ever played. They will really need to try and do something with their full forward line though as there is so much ball just goes in there and right back out. Carson should help though.

I always wonder why Eunan McKillop doesn't get more game time as he always makes a decent difference when he comes in.

McManus was massive yesterday. Paddy Burke was also superb as well. Great point that he scored.

Hope Graffin is ok. Really feel for him getting injured like that. As I saw complaints about very poor provisions for him yesterday and didn't look much in place for serious injuries.
St. John's/Order of Malta would have been there. What else would you expect to see?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
I don't think they were though. Sure the fella was lying on a stretcher on the pitch while cushendall got the trophy. (N.b i could be wrong on this but i have read elsewhere on twitter about this too. A doctor came in from the crowd to provide assistance)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:19:16 PM
Provisions very poor for such a big stadium. Cushendall chair man carrier the stretcher over to Arron! They had no blankets or anything for him and while the 3 ulster officials stood looking on supporters where throwing down scarfs and jumpers to put over him to keep warm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 09:19:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:15:31 PM
I don't think they were though. Sure the fella was lying on a stretcher on the pitch while cushendall got the trophy. (N.b i could be wrong on this but i have read elsewhere on twitter about this too. A doctor came in from the crowd to provide assistance)

Cushendall not have a physiotherapist or doctor on the line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:24:24 PM
The former though not sure on the latter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 09:31:05 PM
In a video I seen he seemed happy enough to stay around for the final whistle and celebrate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Nobody said anything about him not being happy to stay. It's the fact that the ulster officials done nothing to help! They have 2 nurses. No dr or physio
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Nobody said anything about him not being happy to stay. It's the fact that the ulster officials done nothing to help! They have 2 nurses. No dr or physio

Yeah I don't know the full story but didn't look great and i saw some criticism on twitter from someone who would know as he'd be close to the team.

Anyway... I see carson unlikely to make ai semi final. Him and graffin would be big losses.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:33:28 PM
Nobody said anything about him not being happy to stay. It's the fact that the ulster officials done nothing to help! They have 2 nurses. No dr or physio

He seemed happy as in had he felt that he needed to be seen by a doctor he'd have went to hospital?

They (nurses)? Ulster council or Cushendall? How many doctors available on a Wednesday night in Glenarm?

Unless the club pay for a doctor to be at all club games or a St Johns ambulance then what's the solution?

Saint Johns ambulance are at most games, though I didn't see them in Newry, but I'm sure they were there.

St Johns Ambulance are at my kids school every Saturday morning dealing with injuries arising from school matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:46:02 PM
They as in cushendall, there was no ambulance there either and one didn't come. He did go to hospital and is in a full leg cast!! An emergency car came hardly the most appropriate vechicle to be transporting someone with a leg injury?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on November 12, 2018, 09:46:02 PM
They as in cushendall, there was no ambulance there either and one didn't come. He did go to hospital and is in a full leg cast!! An emergency car came hardly the most appropriate vechicle to be transporting someone with a leg injury?

I was doing a game this year and an ambulance and an air ambulance came for a lad injured.. seems strange that Armagh could only muster a emergency car!

Bad form
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 12, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
That's poor organisation by someone as Armagh has an Order of Malta and there is a St. John's depot nearby too. The car must have been local Doctor On Call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played

But sure some refs is our own county are football refs and end up being very good hurling ref and vice versa.

Imagine the uproar if the Dall would of lost.

I don't care if the referee is from Donegal or if he referees football as well, it would be nice if he could answer how off the ball a player hits another in the balls, the linesman sees it, calls in the referee and tells him what happened and the referee gives a yellow card. Surely it's a red all day long?

You'd think so JJ.

You sobered yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on November 11, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on November 11, 2018, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
We hammered Keady, they were shite Tony Baloney!

You were the better team and thoroughly deserved your win but I wouldn't say you hammered Keady. The Dungannon ref in the first half rode Keady big time.

Ok we won by 7 points and we were the better team, I was winding up tony who thought we'd get it hard! Which we didn't, we won with 14 men for 30 minutes, job done
great to c st galls had one of their own at the helm - Good luck for the All Ireland

In hurling we've never had an outside manager, we've had coaches from other clubs though..

Connaught final this weekend, the Galway champs have couple of All Ireland winners so they be favs for that match..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 13, 2018, 07:08:36 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played

But sure some refs is our own county are football refs and end up being very good hurling ref and vice versa.

Imagine the uproar if the Dall would of lost.

I don't care if the referee is from Donegal or if he referees football as well, it would be nice if he could answer how off the ball a player hits another in the balls, the linesman sees it, calls in the referee and tells him what happened and the referee gives a yellow card. Surely it's a red all day long?

You'd think so JJ.

You sobered yet?

No drink taken. Was at work yesterday morning. As a Loughgiel man said to me a few years ago after beating us in a championship final "We hey bigger fish tay fry!!!"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 13, 2018, 11:33:47 AM
Miltown Row 2

'It seems to be the thing for a certain club at the minute to give off about refs!'

And what certain club would that be?

If a player is bad he gets slated if the referee like in Sundays case was brutal and missed numerous red cards he will be slated too. Not rocket science
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on November 13, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
Some ref bashing goes on in here! Probably the same in every county.

I volunteer a lot within my own club and love it. But if someone asked me to volunteer to be a referee I wouldn't do it. I'd need at least £200 per game to put up with the abuse and grief you will inevitably get.

Fair play to those who do volunteer to referee. A thankless task if ever there was one.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 13, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 13, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
Some ref bashing goes on in here! Probably the same in every county.

I volunteer a lot within my own club and love it. But if someone asked me to volunteer to be a referee I wouldn't do it. I'd need at least £200 per game to put up with the abuse and grief you will inevitably get.

Fair play to those who do volunteer to referee. A thankless task if ever there was one.

Obviously everyone appreciates what referees do in the GAA but being a referee doesn't automatically make you infallible or above scrutiny. And when a referee doesn't take the necessary action to protect players welfare then you are quite within your rights to question them. As it happens our own resident referee MR2 has on a few occasions explained decisions he has made or the way he has dealt with incidents during games. Other referees could take a leaf out of his book. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 13, 2018, 05:57:07 PM
Jesusjones

'Obviously everyone appreciates what referees do in the GAA but being a referee doesn't automatically make you infallible or above scrutiny. And when a referee doesn't take the necessary action to protect players welfare then you are quite within your rights to question them'

Very well put I could not agree more
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 13, 2018, 08:41:10 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 13, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: cfclg on November 13, 2018, 12:25:19 PM
Some ref bashing goes on in here! Probably the same in every county.

I volunteer a lot within my own club and love it. But if someone asked me to volunteer to be a referee I wouldn't do it. I'd need at least £200 per game to put up with the abuse and grief you will inevitably get.

Fair play to those who do volunteer to referee. A thankless task if ever there was one.

Obviously everyone appreciates what referees do in the GAA but being a referee doesn't automatically make you infallible or above scrutiny. And when a referee doesn't take the necessary action to protect players welfare then you are quite within your rights to question them. As it happens our own resident referee MR2 has on a few occasions explained decisions he has made or the way he has dealt with incidents during games. Other referees could take a leaf out of his book. 

Agreed. I think the standard in Antrim, particularly in the higher divisions is fine.  However, too often in the Ulster club series, at all grades, matches are being turned into a free fest with an apparent desire from refs to show that they know the rules by blowing minor techical indiscretions and calling frees from almost all physical contacts. Meanwhile some of the serious off the ball stuff and late tackles go unpunished.


The presence of an assessor in the stands rarely has a positive impact on the flow of a game IMO.

If anyone thinks that the Ulster club matches and the Munster club matches are being refereed in the same fashion, they are seriously deluded.  In fact even the Antrim championship and the Ulster club series are different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 13, 2018, 09:20:19 PM
Look the free fest that's being talked about is what everyone wants! If you ref a game the lines on both sides plus players are calling for frees all the time!

I'd rather have the game flow, and that may mean some 'fouls' being viewed as borderline and allow the game to continue, there are some gift of frees like push in back, lift ball off the ground, pulling early (that one call it early, generally cuts it out) pulling shirt, the hardest one is the handpass, it's getting more difficult as the game is quicker.


Other refs may have a different view on this but watching games on Tg4 there is less bitching by players, they take a hit and get on with it.

As for playing with southern refs there is plenty of Antrim players on the Cushendall team to know how to play certain refs..

I'm the worst supporter when watching my team. But the ref (both refs) did a decent job, we'd a lad sent off for two yellows, no complaints from me on that, there was some I'd have let go and others I'd have let play carry on.. balls moved forward for slabbering which I do every time

I did notice that the advantage rule wasn't used too much, couple times but the conditions weren't great so taking a free probably best.. 

When I took our seniors I spoke the team about each ref, what they 'allowed' and what was their particular style of refereeing, during the run to the All Ireland I spoke with our then current national refs to gauge the best approach.. definitely worth a few scores a game

So to finish up, all refs are different and view the game differently but try and apply the same rules!!  The best referees who have the best assessor reports might not always be the best ref!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on November 13, 2018, 11:46:42 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 12, 2018, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: Sheugh Water on November 12, 2018, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 12, 2018, 12:03:53 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 12, 2018, 11:50:17 AM
Paddyjohn

'Donegal? Why in caps?'

Why not?

Why emphasise where the ref is from?

Would be more inclined to emphasise that he is in actual fact a football ref primarily.

Wasn't at the game but I have to say there is a terrible tendency with hurling referees throughout Ulster to blow for every little contact.

We had a visiting club up from Cork during the Summer and they commented on that a number of times during the games played

But sure some refs is our own county are football refs and end up being very good hurling ref and vice versa.

Imagine the uproar if the Dall would of lost.

I don't care if the referee is from Donegal or if he referees football as well, it would be nice if he could answer how off the ball a player hits another in the balls, the linesman sees it, calls in the referee and tells him what happened and the referee gives a yellow card. Surely it's a red all day long?

The ref in question is living in Donegal but is from Kilkenny originally I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 15, 2018, 05:04:54 AM
With championship over for most of our clubs, is there any players that have stood out for you and should be in our new managers (whenever appointed) panel to improve on last year. Or even is there any player that you feel shouldn't be in the panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 15, 2018, 06:59:25 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 15, 2018, 05:04:54 AM
With championship over for most of our clubs, is there any players that have stood out for you and should be in our new managers (whenever appointed) panel to improve on last year. Or even is there any player that you feel shouldn't be in the panel

Well for a start I'd have James McNaughton in centre forward. He looks capable of taking some of the scoring burden off McManus and if we can do that I think we'll have a better rattle at the Joe McDonagh than we did last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 15, 2018, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 15, 2018, 05:04:54 AM
With championship over for most of our clubs, is there any players that have stood out for you and should be in our new managers (whenever appointed) panel to improve on last year. Or even is there any player that you feel shouldn't be in the panel

Ive seen alot of our young lads step up this year to the senior ranks from the previous minor teams and they have given me a lot of hope for the future. Much to early for the county for them but def down the line.

Keelan Molloy has been excellent this year for us and could make an impact in the county team if he sticks at it.

Agree about James McNaughton. hes really come to the fore this season and has taken over the main man role now in the go to for scores for Lgeil. Has a good future ahead of him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 17, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
Just after hearing that BALLYCASTLE beat Loughgiel by a point in the under 16 league playoff . Must of been a good game between two very good sides . Tho hearing that some supporters of Loughgiel tried to attack the referee after the game and his mum ended up on the ground . So hope she is ok and I'm sure that young cunning will get it all sorted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 17, 2018, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on November 17, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
Just after hearing that BALLYCASTLE beat Loughgiel by a point in the under 16 league playoff . Must of been a good game between two very good sides . Tho hearing that some supporters of Loughgiel tried to attack the referee after the game and his mum ended up on the ground . So hope she is ok and I'm sure that young cunning will get it all sorted

Find that hard to believe from the Shams  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on November 17, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
Horified to hear how one of the counties top refs & his family were treated & the end of today's game. For a mob of 30 people to surrond their car attack & abuse them has no place in our game. I'm sorry but it's time something was done about Loughgiel & the continuous barbaric behaviour & abuse of our officials. You can blame a minority few if you want but a mob of 30 people surrounding a car with prominent officials from the club in inexcusable as is one of your mentors reactions to the referee after the minor final as was your club & supporters actions on the 'dugout gate' need I go on....... I hope Mrs Cunning is ok & I hope we don't lose another referee to the actions of cowards..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on November 17, 2018, 05:49:55 PM
Horified to hear how one of the counties top refs & his family were treated & the end of today's game. For a mob of 30 people to surrond their car attack & abuse them has no place in our game. I'm sorry but it's time something was done about Loughgiel & the continuous barbaric behaviour & abuse of our officials. You can blame a minority few if you want but a mob of 30 people surrounding a car with prominent officials from the club in inexcusable as is one of your mentors reactions to the referee after the minor final as was your club & supporters actions on the 'dugout gate' need I go on....... I hope Mrs Cunning is ok & I hope we don't lose another referee to the actions of cowards..

What game was this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 17, 2018, 09:33:12 PM
Under 16 league playoff final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2018, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 17, 2018, 09:46:25 PM
Quote from: Mcuilin man on November 17, 2018, 09:33:12 PM
Under 16 league playoff final
:-[
The game that wasn't played then went to county appeal??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 18, 2018, 01:08:17 PM
No both teams finished level on points and both teams thought they had won the league and then it was brought to Ulster Council and they have the right ruling and it was a playoff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
aye a 30 strong mob you say?  the young mans father approached the ref after the ref left his son in tears being his usual self.  the mother being her usual self also fell wasn't pushed.  a lot about nothing really.  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
aye a 30 strong mob you say?  the young mans father approached the ref after the ref left his son in tears being his usual self.  the mother being her usual self also fell wasn't pushed.  a lot about nothing really.  :o

You mean Loughgiel being typical Loughgiel at the moment.  ;)

Don't think any sort of mud slinging by LG can excuse their behaviour on this one.

Time for them to clean up their act and show some sort of leadership from within the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
aye a 30 strong mob you say?  the young mans father approached the ref after the ref left his son in tears being his usual self.  the mother being her usual self also fell wasn't pushed.  a lot about nothing really.  :o

You mean Loughgiel being typical Loughgiel at the moment.  ;)

Don't think any sort of mud slinging by LG can excuse their behaviour on this one.

Time for them to clean up their act and show some sort of leadership from within the club.
aye for nothing ever happens your end  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
aye a 30 strong mob you say?  the young mans father approached the ref after the ref left his son in tears being his usual self.  the mother being her usual self also fell wasn't pushed.  a lot about nothing really.  :o

You mean Loughgiel being typical Loughgiel at the moment.  ;)

Don't think any sort of mud slinging by LG can excuse their behaviour on this one.

Time for them to clean up their act and show some sort of leadership from within the club.
aye for nothing ever happens your end  ???

Plenty of things happen for.most clubs it's how you react and learn from it that shows true colours.

Accepting no responsibility and blaming everyone else seems to be the norm. Why change now eh!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
aye a 30 strong mob you say?  the young mans father approached the ref after the ref left his son in tears being his usual self.  the mother being her usual self also fell wasn't pushed.  a lot about nothing really.  :o

If you are going to make excuses you might as well give the full story. Why or how did the ref leave the young fella in tears?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 07:02:07 PM
no excuses at all and you weren't near it so you should learn to shut it. although you may think you no it all.  you don't  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 18, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
Where you there sleeping giant , I wasn't at it just going with what a few people said . Maybe you could clear it up from a supporter that was there then ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 07:02:07 PM
no excuses at all and you weren't near it so you should learn to shut it. although you may think you no it all.  you don't  :-X

;D I wasn't which was why i asked. Good rational post from you though ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 18, 2018, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 07:02:07 PM
no excuses at all and you weren't near it so you should learn to shut it. although you may think you no it all.  you don't  :-X

;D I wasn't which was why i asked. Good rational post from you though ;D
haha my bad wasn't talking you there.  as i said above, a lot about nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:34:11 PM
Ok fellas. There's more to this than what you are all posting about. Take my advice and nip it in the bud.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on November 18, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
If there's more to it then why not share ??
Going to be hard to talk yourselves out of this one !!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Mcuilin man on November 18, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
What's that meant to mean seamroga??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
It'll all come out eventually. Not for public consumption.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
It'll all come out eventually. Not for public consumption.

Finally a LG man showing a little restraint and respect.

Pity fellow members had not shown the same to volunteers ensuring that their U16s,  yes U16s, were able to play their match.

Fair play SIE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
It'll all come out eventually. Not for public consumption.

Finally a LG man showing a little restraint and respect.

Pity fellow members had not shown the same to volunteers ensuring that their U16s,  yes U16s, were able to play their match.

Fair play SIE
you sir are a slabber who loves to slabber without knowing anything about what he's actually slabbering about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
Dunloy beat in Ulster Minor tournament today. Kevin Lynchs were better in all lines of the field and run out easy winners by 9pts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
It'll all come out eventually. Not for public consumption.

Finally a LG man showing a little restraint and respect.

Pity fellow members had not shown the same to volunteers ensuring that their U16s,  yes U16s, were able to play their match.

Fair play SIE
you sir are a slabber who loves to slabber without knowing anything about what he's actually slabbering about.

No need for the Sir but thanks.

But good to see the humility that we have come to expect  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:19:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
Dunloy beat in Ulster Minor tournament today. Kevin Lynchs were better in all lines of the field and run out easy winners by 9pts.

It's s pity Derry in general at all levels county throughout don't push on at hurling.. the juvenile and previous S'Neil teams have shown that they could improve Ulster hurling by being more competitive and put more effort into hurling, their football team will be playing Antrim this year, but be rest assured they'll have more commitment at football than hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
Dunloy beat in Ulster Minor tournament today. Kevin Lynchs were better in all lines of the field and run out easy winners by 9pts.
Kevin Lynchs looked to have a few very big men. young lad in full forward a real handful on young crawford who started for dunloy seniors
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 18, 2018, 08:24:13 PM
Antrim clubs have always done poorly in that competition. I don't understand why. The Derry teams play in our leagues and don't win them. Strange one.

They are always strong at that level st club and school level, the transition to senior is completely lost due to foootball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
Dunloy beat in Ulster Minor tournament today. Kevin Lynchs were better in all lines of the field and run out easy winners by 9pts.
Kevin Lynchs looked to have a few very big men. young lad in full forward a real handful on young crawford who started for dunloy seniors

Yeah, he was out in front and won a lot of ball. Could take ball any way and very good in air. Chipped over a good few points in 2nd half. Dunloy never looked like coming back into it even in 2nd half when KL's went down to 14.

In first half they were very ildiscliplined - ref brought it forward 2 or 3 times for backchat. Always seemed to look for frees etc. from referee instead of playing the game. That was my take on it in first half.

Second half, game opened up for KL's and they kept the score board ticking over.

According to programme - Derry clubs, inc. today, have won it 11 times, Antrim 6, Down 4, Armagh 2 and Tyrone 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2018, 09:33:14 PM
I can't work it out either hs. I think there was a tyrone club won it before an antrim one too. There's one derry school which is basically the pick of derry hurling so not even sure the school thing reflects the club scene.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 18, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on November 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM
It'll all come out eventually. Not for public consumption.

Finally a LG man showing a little restraint and respect.

Pity fellow members had not shown the same to volunteers ensuring that their U16s,  yes U16s, were able to play their match.

Fair play SIE
:-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sheugh Water on November 18, 2018, 10:17:36 PM
Derry clubs wouldn't be playing their championship teams in Antrim leagues. U16 hurling in Antrim is same night as minor football in Derry for example, at every age they send what they can to league games, championship they are different animals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on November 19, 2018, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 18, 2018, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 18, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
Dunloy beat in Ulster Minor tournament today. Kevin Lynchs were better in all lines of the field and run out easy winners by 9pts.
Kevin Lynchs looked to have a few very big men. young lad in full forward a real handful on young crawford who started for dunloy seniors

McHugh, motm. He played senior championship for Kevin Lynchs against slaughtneil. So did 6 (Mullan) and 11 (Kelly).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 19, 2018, 09:23:15 AM
we beat them in the league over there missing players but to be fair they have lads from other clubs hurl for them and football for other clubs so theres at times a conflict of interests.

we were beat by a better team on the day, no complaints from us.

it doesnt help when you have an U21 football match on tuesday night past and have most of the team in it. Bit of a joke that we are playing that competition now and still have an ulster hurling and ulster football championship to play in. but thats the price of success i suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on November 19, 2018, 03:43:44 PM
Dungiven better team and fully deserved the win.

McHugh a class act he caused Slaughtneil a lot of problems and did Richie Mullan and they both caused us serious problems yesterday

We were a bit flat but that group of players owe us nothing they have done our club proud this year and no doubt will do for many years to come
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on November 20, 2018, 11:48:05 AM
Is it 2 up 2 down for all leagues or is it different in d3 and d4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on November 20, 2018, 02:33:22 PM
Anybody got the Ulster Minor Club roll of honour. 

I remember Dungiven winning it about 2002 and Carrickmore in 2003 and that it took a few more years for an Antrim winner.  Hard to see the full list anywhere though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 20, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
thats the full list there

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsRr9mGXcAAk2rH.jpg:large)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 28, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
Allianz Hurling League fixtures confirmed. Seems Cushendall be our home venue this season

Sat 26th Jan Home vs Kerry @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 3rd Feb Away vs Meath @Navan 2pm
Sat 16th Feb Home vs Westmeath @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 24th Feb Away vs Mayo @Ballina 2pm
Sun 3rd March Home vs London @Cushendall 1pm

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 28, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
Allianz Hurling League fixtures confirmed. Seems Cushendall be our home venue this season

Sat 26th Jan Home vs Kerry @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 3rd Feb Away vs Meath @Navan 2pm
Sat 16th Feb Home vs Westmeath @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 24th Feb Away vs Mayo @Ballina 2pm
Sun 3rd March Home vs London @Cushendall 1pm

At least we have Westmeath at home
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 28, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Might have a manager in place by that time too  :-\  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2018, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 28, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Might have a manager in place by that time too  :-\  :-\

The latest name bandied about is Johnny Campbell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2018, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2018, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on November 28, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Might have a manager in place by that time too  :-\  :-\

The latest name bandied about is Johnny Campbell

I heard Dick O'Kane & Johnny Campbell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 29, 2018, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 28, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
Allianz Hurling League fixtures confirmed. Seems Cushendall be our home venue this season

Sat 26th Jan Home vs Kerry @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 3rd Feb Away vs Meath @Navan 2pm
Sat 16th Feb Home vs Westmeath @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 24th Feb Away vs Mayo @Ballina 2pm
Sun 3rd March Home vs London @Cushendall 1pm


At least we have Westmeath at home

Should come up straight out of that alright.
Kerry and Westmeath at home are the only two to really concern you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 29, 2018, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 29, 2018, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 28, 2018, 05:20:39 AM
Allianz Hurling League fixtures confirmed. Seems Cushendall be our home venue this season

Sat 26th Jan Home vs Kerry @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 3rd Feb Away vs Meath @Navan 2pm
Sat 16th Feb Home vs Westmeath @Cushendall 2pm
Sun 24th Feb Away vs Mayo @Ballina 2pm
Sun 3rd March Home vs London @Cushendall 1pm


At least we have Westmeath at home

Should come up straight out of that alright.
Kerry and Westmeath at home are the only two to really concern you.
We couldn't beat Kerry or Westmeath with a full team last year. Missing Cushendall players for minimum of 3 games and if we get to the final they'll not play a league game at all. At least 4 certain starters, maybe more. In that situation Brian Cody wouldn't get us promoted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
So thats that then, might as well pack it in, instead of getting a manager and a panel together. Will save the county a fortune
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 30, 2018, 07:14:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
So thats that then, might as well pack it in, instead of getting a manager and a panel together. Will save the county a fortune
Jesus MR2 settle down. I'm just suggesting that perhaps given form over recent years we should maybe be realistic in our expectations. Am I wrong to suggest that promotion without 4/5 of our best players is a long shot? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 30, 2018, 07:14:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
So thats that then, might as well pack it in, instead of getting a manager and a panel together. Will save the county a fortune
Jesus MR2 settle down. I'm just suggesting that perhaps given form over recent years we should maybe be realistic in our expectations. Am I wrong to suggest that promotion without 4/5 of our best players is a long shot?

Settle down? You're the one that came on and dismissed the campaign before it even started!

Let's see would be my view.. at this level it's hardly a long shot, just because we are missing players due to club championship. we generally missed players every year due club commitments..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 30, 2018, 09:38:41 AM
Down are moving the agregroups to U13/15/17 in 2020.

Have Antrim decided yet what they are doing?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 30, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
I understand no change to existing format 12/14/16 etc planned for 2019 in Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on November 30, 2018, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on November 30, 2018, 07:14:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
So thats that then, might as well pack it in, instead of getting a manager and a panel together. Will save the county a fortune
Jesus MR2 settle down. I'm just suggesting that perhaps given form over recent years we should maybe be realistic in our expectations. Am I wrong to suggest that promotion without 4/5 of our best players is a long shot?

Settle down? You're the one that came on and dismissed the campaign before it even started!

Let's see would be my view.. at this level it's hardly a long shot, just because we are missing players due to club championship. we generally missed players every year due club commitments..
I genuinely hope we get promoted but we are trying to do it with one hand tied behind our backs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
One thing the last year has taught us, both at club and county, is that McManus is our best player by a country mile. Without him it will be difficult (but not impossible).

Having watched the Galway final highlights I, unfortunately, am not so sure Cushendall players will be missing until after February as that team look a step above any teams up here. I hope I'm wrong but at least if that happens the cushendall county players will be back sooner.

Hoping James McNaughton and Keelan Molloy will have a chance to shine though as they seem like 2 big prospects for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 30, 2018, 01:20:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 30, 2018, 12:43:17 PM
One thing the last year has taught us, both at club and county, is that McManus is our best player by a country mile. Without him it will be difficult (but not impossible).

Having watched the Galway final highlights I, unfortunately, am not so sure Cushendall players will be missing until after February as that team look a step above any teams up here. I hope I'm wrong but at least if that happens the cushendall county players will be back sooner.

Hoping James McNaughton and Keelan Molloy will have a chance to shine though as they seem like 2 big prospects for the future.
McManus is by far the dominant talent on that team but if he wasn't there someone else would need to become the "go to" man. Is there anyone else that can carry a team like he can if the need arose?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2018, 01:27:02 PM
The style of play will be different without McManus.. Thats what a manager is there for, if we get one that is.. we've been in better leagues and been without 'county' players due to club runs, Loughgiels year when they won it, the players were not available..

Once things are established (hopefully soooner rather than later) the team can be sorted... Sure Cushendall are not even the best team according so some of their posters...  if you were to look back at the previous pages on the lead up to championship  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2018, 02:53:43 PM
Cushendall are superb in midfield and defense. However they struggle in the forward dept. Been like that for years.

I do think McNaughton can become that go to guy. I haven't seen enough of Molloy but going by reports I am hoping he might fall into that mould too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on December 02, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
Neal Peden to be new manager with Gary O'Kane, Jim Close, Karl McKeegan and Anthony Daly to be part of the new management team going by Irish News reports
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2018, 01:33:35 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on December 02, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
Neal Peden to be new manager with Gary O'Kane, Jim Close, Karl McKeegan and Anthony Daly to be part of the new management team going by Irish News reports
That's what I heard, let's see, hopefully we'll fo better than some suggested
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 03, 2018, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on December 02, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
Neal Peden to be new manager with Gary O'Kane, Jim Close, Karl McKeegan and Anthony Daly to be part of the new management team going by Irish News reports

How much per man for a season.

NP - £?
GOK - £?
JC - £?
KMcK - £?
AD - £?

Some of those men might not take anything but I'd be pretty sure Anthony Daly isn't coming up here for the craic!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on December 03, 2018, 12:19:57 PM
Its a tough Job and a lot of time and commitment from all - i would say whatever they are getting it isnt enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2018, 12:40:28 PM
sure lets put up how much they'll get and not how well they will hopefully do! FFS!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 04, 2018, 06:57:18 AM
From Facebook

"Congratulations to Neal Peden who has been ratified as Antrim Senior Hurling Team Manager for 2019

Also assisting Neal will be :

Karl McKeegan Selector
Gary O'Kane. Selector
Jim Close Selector
Anthony Daly Advisor

Good luck for the year ahead #Saffs"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 04, 2018, 08:31:55 AM
good set up of men there. the best of luck to them all for 2019
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 04, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/collie-donnellys-chairmans-address-at-tonights-convention

I'm agree with this. Lets get rid of them and promote participation rather than elitism.
"Much debate with Liam and his colleagues on development squads has happened over this last year and perhaps a re think on this current model is required."

Another interesting one here regarding fixtures:
"We must change, the current format that perhaps served us well in times past is not working ,we need to be brave in this area, I believe an all county board would go in someway to helping that,with representation from all parts of our county. Once we solve the dual club issue , we would be a fair bit along the road to a better model."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
What's the pipeline like?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
What's the pipeline like?

Great work being done, and things were going great but we pulled our minor hurling team this year!! and that team would have been decent enough, we've low numbers hurling and I honestly think we are going backwards.. We've a huge think tank approach this week at the club, people looking to sit down and plan ahead for the hurling future.

We've a great wee under 12 team that won the Belfast Nipper Quinn championship this year, they also won the football, so we'll see how these lads develop and progress into the adult teams..

Senior football or senior hurling! the struggles of a dual club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2018, 02:56:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
What's the pipeline like?

Great work being done, and things were going great but we pulled our minor hurling team this year!! and that team would have been decent enough, we've low numbers hurling and I honestly think we are going backwards.. We've a huge think tank approach this week at the club, people looking to sit down and plan ahead for the hurling future.

We've a great wee under 12 team that won the Belfast Nipper Quinn championship this year, they also won the football, so we'll see how these lads develop and progress into the adult teams..

Senior football or senior hurling! the struggles of a dual club

Young lad Austin on that U12's is a fine young hurler, will be interesting to see how he develops through the years.
Has a bit of athleticism about him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2018, 02:56:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
What's the pipeline like?

Great work being done, and things were going great but we pulled our minor hurling team this year!! and that team would have been decent enough, we've low numbers hurling and I honestly think we are going backwards.. We've a huge think tank approach this week at the club, people looking to sit down and plan ahead for the hurling future.

We've a great wee under 12 team that won the Belfast Nipper Quinn championship this year, they also won the football, so we'll see how these lads develop and progress into the adult teams..

Senior football or senior hurling! the struggles of a dual club

Young lad Austin on that U12's is a fine young hurler, will be interesting to see how he develops through the years.
Has a bit of athleticism about him.

We've had a lot of players like him over the past few years and lost them, now should he continue to improve then that team should improve with him, kids learn off each other and thats a positive going forward..

hopefully that team sticks together, we've won Nipper Quinns in the past lately and that team ended up not fielding at minor! The same minor team that got to the county final! And beat by a dual club who won both!


Keeping them away from football is the key  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2018, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2018, 02:56:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2018, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
No mention of St Galls Intermediate Hurling campaign?

Played Queens and Jordanstown lately, yourselves on the 15th and Castleblaney at some point, its going to be tough for us Nial Burke and McInerney provide the backbone of this team we play. they'd be the best team to come out of Galway I'd say as Galway have never won at this level before, We've about 5 players out with injuries at the minute but all should be available for selection come the 19th of Jan..

We'd need to be at are very best and Oranmore have a stinker to get over the line, but these lads have been down that road before so we'll give it a lash.. It could well be the last go at this level, lot of lads nearing the age of hanging up the boots
What's the pipeline like?

Great work being done, and things were going great but we pulled our minor hurling team this year!! and that team would have been decent enough, we've low numbers hurling and I honestly think we are going backwards.. We've a huge think tank approach this week at the club, people looking to sit down and plan ahead for the hurling future.

We've a great wee under 12 team that won the Belfast Nipper Quinn championship this year, they also won the football, so we'll see how these lads develop and progress into the adult teams..

Senior football or senior hurling! the struggles of a dual club

Young lad Austin on that U12's is a fine young hurler, will be interesting to see how he develops through the years.
Has a bit of athleticism about him.

We've had a lot of players like him over the past few years and lost them, now should he continue to improve then that team should improve with him, kids learn off each other and thats a positive going forward..

hopefully that team sticks together, we've won Nipper Quinns in the past lately and that team ended up not fielding at minor! The same minor team that got to the county final! And beat by a dual club who won both!


Keeping them away from football is the key  8)

Is this not part of the problem that these tournaments are built up to be a big deal and then past feile nothing seems to matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2018, 01:29:43 PM
16 is a difficult age NAG1, parents are happy that their kids are down hurling and footballing to a certain age, then once kids hit 4th year its all about the studying, and time to fit in both hurling and football training and studying and homework!  the lads generally start picking their times that suit them, the joy of winning Nipper Quinn or Feile is lost..

Holding on to the kids is the hardest part, the lure of a successful football team is easier it seems to work with
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on December 06, 2018, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 04, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/collie-donnellys-chairmans-address-at-tonights-convention

I'm agree with this. Lets get rid of them and promote participation rather than elitism.
"Much debate with Liam and his colleagues on development squads has happened over this last year and perhaps a re think on this current model is required."

Another interesting one here regarding fixtures:
"We must change, the current format that perhaps served us well in times past is not working ,we need to be brave in this area, I believe an all county board would go in someway to helping that,with representation from all parts of our county. Once we solve the dual club issue , we would be a fair bit along the road to a better model."

Have to disagree with your development squad statement- "get rid of them." Like it or lump it, our games are there to be won! The definition of elite comes up as "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group."
Is this not essentially where we would love Antrim to be at? Winning all-Ireland's or at least competing at the top level?
Given the fact that Dev squads in Antrim accommodated  the guts of 40 kids from each age group each year, that will total approx 160 kids each year getting to train and play at a higher level on what I would consider a very irregular basis. They are still available to clubs 6 other days of the week and sometimes 13 other days of a fortnight.
The likelihood of all these players playing senior intercounty is slim, but they do go back into the club system a more educated and seasoned player with experience at playing intercounty level at their respective age.
The county have numerous fixtures and competitions for "participation" at all age groups. So much so that many other clubs from other counties join our leagues to play in them! The Antrim staff (as far as I know) work in schools to provide the experience of the GAA to try to increase participation too. Although I'm still of the opinion that if a club want more kids they need to do a bit of work themselves, Davitts and St Endas being prime examples of what can be achieved from club coaches in schools.
Every other county has development squads also, and the top counties (whether allowed too or not) take their kids for more sessions than one a week at certain times of the year.
My son has played in Dev squads this last 3 years and the education as a player and a person that he has received has been top class.
Excuse me if I sound negative but I'd rather leave the fate of Dev squads in Antrim in the hands of Antrim staff instead of the likes of a chairman stepping down, with absolutely no experience in Dev squads, other than turning up one day for a photo,  when Liam Sheedy took a session for the Celtic Challenge winning squad.
Go learn about what the squads and VOLUNTEER coaches do before slamming their efforts for OUR county, and if possible, go see how effective they are for other counties too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 06, 2018, 08:31:47 AM
The principle of Development Squads is fine and honourable and the work the coaches do is admirable.  However the benefits are negligible overall.  Certainly in my experience in Antrim.

Is the coaching any better than the boys would get at their own clubs, maybe but i'm Not sure.  What I am sure off is the impact taking the best players out of a club session has on that session.  I am sure the stop start nature of our fixtures is harming the development of the larger body of players. 

I believe a rising tide lifts all boats and rather than us try and accommodate dev squads into a hugely congested Calendar we would be better served sorting the fixture issue.  Supporting clubs that cannot provide quality coaching and looking at amalgamations for clubs struggling to field.

Just isn't the room for a proper club season, schools, county teams and dev squads! IMHO

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 06, 2018, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on December 06, 2018, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 04, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/collie-donnellys-chairmans-address-at-tonights-convention

I'm agree with this. Lets get rid of them and promote participation rather than elitism.
"Much debate with Liam and his colleagues on development squads has happened over this last year and perhaps a re think on this current model is required."

Another interesting one here regarding fixtures:
"We must change, the current format that perhaps served us well in times past is not working ,we need to be brave in this area, I believe an all county board would go in someway to helping that,with representation from all parts of our county. Once we solve the dual club issue , we would be a fair bit along the road to a better model."

Have to disagree with your development squad statement- "get rid of them." Like it or lump it, our games are there to be won! The definition of elite comes up as "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group."
Is this not essentially where we would love Antrim to be at? Winning all-Ireland's or at least competing at the top level?
Given the fact that Dev squads in Antrim accommodated  the guts of 40 kids from each age group each year, that will total approx 160 kids each year getting to train and play at a higher level on what I would consider a very irregular basis. They are still available to clubs 6 other days of the week and sometimes 13 other days of a fortnight.
The likelihood of all these players playing senior intercounty is slim, but they do go back into the club system a more educated and seasoned player with experience at playing intercounty level at their respective age.
The county have numerous fixtures and competitions for "participation" at all age groups. So much so that many other clubs from other counties join our leagues to play in them! The Antrim staff (as far as I know) work in schools to provide the experience of the GAA to try to increase participation too. Although I'm still of the opinion that if a club want more kids they need to do a bit of work themselves, Davitts and St Endas being prime examples of what can be achieved from club coaches in schools.
Every other county has development squads also, and the top counties (whether allowed too or not) take their kids for more sessions than one a week at certain times of the year.
My son has played in Dev squads this last 3 years and the education as a player and a person that he has received has been top class.
Excuse me if I sound negative but I'd rather leave the fate of Dev squads in Antrim in the hands of Antrim staff instead of the likes of a chairman stepping down, with absolutely no experience in Dev squads, other than turning up one day for a photo,  when Liam Sheedy took a session for the Celtic Challenge winning squad.
Go learn about what the squads and VOLUNTEER coaches do before slamming their efforts for OUR county, and if possible, go see how effective they are for other counties too!

All entitled to our opinions obv but I'm going to correct you on this last statement.

I am a volunteer in my own club and coach the u16 hurlers and footballers. I know first hand the impact development squads have on 99% of kids that aren't on them. Our county would be better served getting the basics right first, gaining high levels of participation , having regular fixtures for all etc before putting the icing on the cake with development squads. We are putting the cart before the horse in my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gall the way on December 06, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: cfclg on December 06, 2018, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Gall the way on December 06, 2018, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: cfclg on December 04, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/collie-donnellys-chairmans-address-at-tonights-convention

I'm agree with this. Lets get rid of them and promote participation rather than elitism.
"Much debate with Liam and his colleagues on development squads has happened over this last year and perhaps a re think on this current model is required."

Another interesting one here regarding fixtures:
"We must change, the current format that perhaps served us well in times past is not working ,we need to be brave in this area, I believe an all county board would go in someway to helping that,with representation from all parts of our county. Once we solve the dual club issue , we would be a fair bit along the road to a better model."

Have to disagree with your development squad statement- "get rid of them." Like it or lump it, our games are there to be won! The definition of elite comes up as "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group."
Is this not essentially where we would love Antrim to be at? Winning all-Ireland's or at least competing at the top level?
Given the fact that Dev squads in Antrim accommodated  the guts of 40 kids from each age group each year, that will total approx 160 kids each year getting to train and play at a higher level on what I would consider a very irregular basis. They are still available to clubs 6 other days of the week and sometimes 13 other days of a fortnight.
The likelihood of all these players playing senior intercounty is slim, but they do go back into the club system a more educated and seasoned player with experience at playing intercounty level at their respective age.
The county have numerous fixtures and competitions for "participation" at all age groups. So much so that many other clubs from other counties join our leagues to play in them! The Antrim staff (as far as I know) work in schools to provide the experience of the GAA to try to increase participation too. Although I'm still of the opinion that if a club want more kids they need to do a bit of work themselves, Davitts and St Endas being prime examples of what can be achieved from club coaches in schools.
Every other county has development squads also, and the top counties (whether allowed too or not) take their kids for more sessions than one a week at certain times of the year.
My son has played in Dev squads this last 3 years and the education as a player and a person that he has received has been top class.
Excuse me if I sound negative but I'd rather leave the fate of Dev squads in Antrim in the hands of Antrim staff instead of the likes of a chairman stepping down, with absolutely no experience in Dev squads, other than turning up one day for a photo,  when Liam Sheedy took a session for the Celtic Challenge winning squad.
Go learn about what the squads and VOLUNTEER coaches do before slamming their efforts for OUR county, and if possible, go see how effective they are for other counties too!

All entitled to our opinions obv but I'm going to correct you on this last statement.

I am a volunteer in my own club and coach the u16 hurlers and footballers. I know first hand the impact development squads have on 99% of kids that aren't on them. Our county would be better served getting the basics right first, gaining high levels of participation , having regular fixtures for all etc before putting the icing on the cake with development squads. We are putting the cart before the horse in my opinion.

Sorry just to clarify I meant the volunteer coaches within the squads; not the clubs. I have also coached this past 3 years in our club and to be quite honest with you I love to see our lads head off to squads. Having said that- they train on a Saturday, so I still got my county players back for my club training midweek. We avoided Saturdays so not only do they get a club hurling session in, but those lads also got an extra session in with the county= more hurling. Your clash could be different if your u16s are part of the minor county panel and they train more??

Maxpower-  with regards to the coaching standards, I'm not sure how we define a good coach (if im honest), but I do know my young lad loved every minute of it. When you mention, the impact it has on players at the club session I assume you mean minor squads who might train more often through the week? As most Dev squads went on Saturday mornings it is easy to move your club sessions around this (especially in Belfast where there is also a clash with soccer). With regards to the development squads fixtures (not minor) "in a congested calendar" they have 5 dates set aside for dev squads every year- Ive been told before that this is the same every year as the GAA keep a handle on this and dont allow it to go past 5 dates. I don't see how 5 dates are a massive problem tbh, especially considering they are on Saturdays too.

I do agree that we need more participants- 100%! Our club struggle with numbers at certain age groups too, and I do understand the question- what about the other players- thats where I would've took the time to work with these lads on their weaknesses. But what about the good players? Why would I hold them back and stop them gaining invaluable experience playing around the country? I dont think a club/countys inability to get more players should hinder a good players chance to progress further.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on December 10, 2018, 08:37:53 AM
2019 season starts sunday against wicklow in kehoe cup in national centre of excellence in Dublin. Hope its a good one!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on December 12, 2018, 12:47:54 AM
Any panel named yet or anyone know any new names in the Kehoe Cup squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 12, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
Things dont sound great on the County team front. Ten players reined the first night and 14 last night, and we play our first competitive match v Wicklow in Sunday. There seems to be no interest in the team. I have to say I'm at a loss to offer a solution!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 13, 2018, 09:07:10 AM
Jesus id hardly blame people for not wanting to be out training 2 weeks before Christmas for what is basically a friendly game.

the enthusiasm would be at a very low level for something like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on December 13, 2018, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 13, 2018, 09:07:10 AM
Jesus id hardly blame people for not wanting to be out training 2 weeks before Christmas for what is basically a friendly game.

the enthusiasm would be at a very low level for something like this.
I agree totally, there's little need for it.  If anything I'd pull together a panel from the universities who at least are doing a bit at this time of the year.
There has been a mention of some of the panelists not wanting to play for some of the management team ::), it's helpful that they have declared early I suppose.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on December 13, 2018, 11:24:07 PM
I never heard about gripes with the management, very surprised if that is the case. Which Club is involved. I did hear the Johnnies lads weren't going.
The other thing is whether we fancy the friendly against Wicklow or not we need to prepare for the league which begins in Janurary!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2018, 11:30:00 PM
Cushendall should go and use it as a training game prep for their All Ireland campaign
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on December 14, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Any word of the team for Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on December 15, 2018, 12:08:41 AM
Can't disagree with MR2 that Cushendall should play this game as preparation for upcoming All Ireland semi final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on December 15, 2018, 05:09:19 PM
Chat is the age grades are changing to u13/15/17/19 next year , apparently passed at county meeting!! Any thoughts??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 16, 2018, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: farset on December 15, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
It's good. It raises the age in which kids play competitively from 12 to 13. Less pressure. More fun.

I take it you don't coach any U10's or 12's or been to any of the blitzes or tournaments.?

This age change will make zero difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2018, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: Megaman on December 16, 2018, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: farset on December 15, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
It's good. It raises the age in which kids play competitively from 12 to 13. Less pressure. More fun.

I take it you don't coach any U10's or 12's or been to any of the blitzes or tournaments.?

This age change will make zero difference.
A lot of that is down to the coaches! I've managed plenty of those and some coaches need a boot up the hole! And I've ref'd Plenty and been embarrassed by some parents and coaches with their attitude
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 16, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
Is there anything you haven't done ffs ::)

I know it is somewhat down to parents / coaches but if you think U10's aren't competitive in their own right your very mistaken.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2018, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 16, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
Is there anything you haven't done ffs ::)

I know it is somewhat down to parents / coaches but if you think U10's aren't competitive in their own right your very mistaken.

Under 16 or minor! Difficult years to take, but pretty much all the other teams though !  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron89 on December 17, 2018, 07:50:50 AM
Some strange faces on the antrim hurling panel yesterday
Hard to gett boys out at this time of year but still thought we'd have more
Hard to get boys though when continually Antrim management has taken boys
In who haven't trained with panel about march and April time
Hopefully CDall will provide about 7/8 after all Ireland run
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 17, 2018, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: Megaman on December 16, 2018, 12:12:40 PM
Is there anything you haven't done ffs ::)

I know it is somewhat down to parents / coaches but if you think U10's aren't competitive in their own right your very mistaken.

Kids are inherently competitive and that's a good thing which can be harnessed in the correct manner.

What MR2 is talking about is something different when coaches and parents think they're shouting at adults in a senior championship game rather than a bunch of 10 or 12 year olds.

It's hard to get through to a coach that winning isn't important as wrongly they think they are judged by results, well by those with a titter of wit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on December 17, 2018, 12:04:55 PM
I think the new u13 age group should still be very much about participation rather than winning leagues or c/ships. Everyone should get game time at this level.
Only from the new u15 level up should clubs start picking their 'best 15' etc.

What about the Feile, will it move from u14 to u13 or u15?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sweeper 123 on December 17, 2018, 12:48:00 PM
Will u19 replace the old U18 or does it replace U21 ? Will there be an all county U19 league or is it just championship like U21?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2018, 01:11:14 PM
we have a meeting Wednesday night to gauge the opinions on it in the club and if we will be opposing it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2018, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2018, 01:11:14 PM
we have a meeting Wednesday night to gauge the opinions on it in the club and if we will be opposing it.

for the year? or just in general?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on December 17, 2018, 04:59:03 PM
I already thought that these new grades were put back a year in 2018 to 2019? I remember reading the county secretaries report and it basically said that these changes are coming, so get prepared for them.

I for one can see that many problems at all with the age changes.

Players who are historically last year minors can be serviced on clubs reserve teams and in smaller clubs most of their top minors are on the senior teams anyhow.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2018, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2018, 01:42:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2018, 01:11:14 PM
we have a meeting Wednesday night to gauge the opinions on it in the club and if we will be opposing it.

for the year? or just in general?

for the year ahead just. clubs have till the 28th of Dec to object in writing to the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on December 17, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
Email came out from the County secretary recommending all age grades revert to the new format in 2018.  This email came out in December 2017 to which the clubs opposed, stating they needed time to prepare for such a change.

In September clubs were informed the status quo would continue for another year.  Then again in December we are informed the change is to be adopted.

This is after clubs have held their AGM, Divisional boards have meet to discuss early season tournaments and coaches have been put into position.

I am not opposed to the change, though I see no benefit either.  However I think it's shameful how little preparation has went into the proposal, no guidance on Feile, which tournaments will fall into which grades, will u13 be on the shorter pitch or will it drop to u11! What about u21?

I think it's actually quite insulting to a huge population of our County to think a change so fundamental as this can just be implemented with no thought, consultation or proper communication.

County held a fixture meeting for Senior teams recently and they aren't changing!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
But you knew it was happening the following year for sure, so the plans/preparation you have made for this year will have to be brought forward earlier?

Feile will be either under 13 or 15? New committee in place some changes are expected, in the scale of things it's not a biggy. The under 12 manager becomes under 13 manager and so on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on December 17, 2018, 06:27:08 PM
I hope an U19 league does not come into play.
Don't think it will be necessary. Grading should be simple enough -
U12-u11
U14-u13
U16-u15
U18-u17

Im not sure whether changing u21 to u20 will help much as there is only a handful of clubs who play u21 hurling, so no point in moving it imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on December 17, 2018, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: maxpower on December 17, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
Email came out from the County secretary recommending all age grades revert to the new format in 2018.  This email came out in December 2017 to which the clubs opposed, stating they needed time to prepare for such a change.

In September clubs were informed the status quo would continue for another year.  Then again in December we are informed the change is to be adopted.

This is after clubs have held their AGM, Divisional boards have meet to discuss early season tournaments and coaches have been put into position.

I am not opposed to the change, though I see no benefit either.  However I think it's shameful how little preparation has went into the proposal, no guidance on Feile, which tournaments will fall into which grades, will u13 be on the shorter pitch or will it drop to u11! What about u21?

I think it's actually quite insulting to a huge population of our County to think a change so fundamental as this can just be implemented with no thought, consultation or proper communication.

County held a fixture meeting for Senior teams recently and they aren't changing!

Do you think Antrim  is the only county in Ireland caught out by this.
The county exec officials proposed changing to new format in Sept. Co.sec outlined the number of juvenile members in each club .

The clubs decided to stick to status quo.

The county exec are the messengers here and not the usurpers

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on December 18, 2018, 07:05:45 AM
Quote from: saffron89 on December 17, 2018, 07:50:50 AM
Some strange faces on the antrim hurling panel yesterday
Hard to gett boys out at this time of year but still thought we'd have more
Hard to get boys though when continually Antrim management has taken boys
In who haven't trained with panel about march and April time
Hopefully CDall will provide about 7/8 after all Ireland run

Cushendall have been providing 6/7 players for the county going back a good number of years. If we want to move forward it's high time Dunloy and Loughgiel were providing a similar number.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2018, 09:04:04 AM
we had 4 lads there on sunday at the game and would of had more had the U21's not of been in the county football final.

This was a crazy time to have a game so close to Cmas when lads havent even thought about starting to train for games in the new year let along a game in December. but it was what it was and by all accounts the played well. fair play to any of the lads who went and played

James McNaughton was in good scoring form and looks like a good free taker for the team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 18, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
But you knew it was happening the following year for sure, so the plans/preparation you have made for this year will have to be brought forward earlier?

Feile will be either under 13 or 15? New committee in place some changes are expected, in the scale of things it's not a biggy. The under 12 manager becomes under 13 manager and so on?

That's a decision to be made at a National Level and TBH how this is being rolled out by Croke Park is shameful.
This has to be rolled out across all counties at the same time with things like Feile, inter county club championship like the minor one in Ballinascreen all aligned.

Will Go Games be U11 or U13?

Is U13 too young for Feile as you may have 9 year olds on a panel? We're going odd in Down in 2020 and when I asked a county delegate what was happening with Feile he didn't know but felt it may stay U14 and then each county would have to run off just that one competition as U14. Didn't make any sense to me. The Feile in Down is run off on the one day.

Time for Croke Park to be more vocal on this and give direction.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2018, 10:19:42 AM
agree JC. ive seen no direction at all and no definitive guide as to whats going to happen and what age groups will be the new feile etc.

its very confusing for everyone. hopefully this meeting on weds night in our club will give me more of an insight as to whats what.

is there going to be no more U21 and just going to be U11, 13, 15, 17 & 19?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on December 18, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
I see Tipperary voted at their convention to keep it U12, 14 etc for 2019.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2018, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Megaman on December 18, 2018, 11:44:52 AM
I see Tipperary voted at their convention to keep it U12, 14 etc for 2019.

Will the intercounty championships be at under 14, 16 and under 18 this year? And if not would it not be best to have your club hurling/football playing at the same age grades?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on December 18, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2018, 09:04:04 AM
we had 4 lads there on sunday at the game and would of had more had the U21's not of been in the county football final.

This was a crazy time to have a game so close to Cmas when lads havent even thought about starting to train for games in the new year let along a game in December. but it was what it was and by all accounts the played well. fair play to any of the lads who went and played

James McNaughton was in good scoring form and looks like a good free taker for the team.

What happened to Dec being a closed month for all intercom to activiry? It's not that long ago that some counties were being threatened with fines for training in Dec?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2018, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: podge on December 18, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 18, 2018, 09:04:04 AM
we had 4 lads there on sunday at the game and would of had more had the U21's not of been in the county football final.

This was a crazy time to have a game so close to Cmas when lads havent even thought about starting to train for games in the new year let along a game in December. but it was what it was and by all accounts the played well. fair play to any of the lads who went and played

James McNaughton was in good scoring form and looks like a good free taker for the team.

What happened to Dec being a closed month for all intercom to activiry? It's not that long ago that some counties were being threatened with fines for training in Dec?

Gone a good while now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 24, 2018, 05:27:01 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my fellow Antrim Gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 07, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game

Young rice came on at half time for Ronan Molloy, big lad with pace to  but I can't remember who else
Darren Gleason the tipp goalie was on the line helping. Got talking to him he's a sound big lad.
Lots to work on for sure, well done to all the lads who weighed in. The Ref was a bit iffy looking 😊😊
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 07, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game

Young rice came on at half time for Ronan Molloy, big lad with pace to  but I can't remember who else
Darren Gleason the tipp goalie was on the line helping. Got talking to him he's a sound big lad.
Lots to work on for sure, well done to all the lads who weighed in. The Ref was a bit iffy looking 😊😊

He'd just done a run and class at the gym! Bit tired and burnt out after Xmas indulgence
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 07, 2019, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 07, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game

Young rice came on at half time for Ronan Molloy, big lad with pace to  but I can't remember who else
Darren Gleason the tipp goalie was on the line helping. Got talking to him he's a sound big lad.
Lots to work on for sure, well done to all the lads who weighed in. The Ref was a bit iffy looking 😊😊

Aye just don't be giving Darren your money to look after for you

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on January 07, 2019, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 07, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game

Young rice came on at half time for Ronan Molloy, big lad with pace to  but I can't remember who else
Darren Gleason the tipp goalie was on the line helping. Got talking to him he's a sound big lad.
Lots to work on for sure, well done to all the lads who weighed in. The Ref was a bit iffy looking 😊😊

Is Gleeson helping Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 07, 2019, 09:18:10 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 07, 2019, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 07, 2019, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: cfclg on January 07, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2019, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 07, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
meant to get to the game on sat but was working and never got to it. I see that all 6 forwards got on the score sheet and by all accounts it was a good run out for the panel.

Was a competitive enough game, Antrim obviously missing a few and that will only improve once players start coming back. Hopefully Cushendall players are not available till after St Paddy's day and that will give other players a better run in the team.

Was expecting more on the panel from some clubs but some players are still with their college teams I suspect and others may be carrying injuries

What size was the panel for this game?

Antrim had, I think about 21 there, not sure TBH,  few lads came on during the game

Young rice came on at half time for Ronan Molloy, big lad with pace to  but I can't remember who else
Darren Gleason the tipp goalie was on the line helping. Got talking to him he's a sound big lad.
Lots to work on for sure, well done to all the lads who weighed in. The Ref was a bit iffy looking 😊😊

Is Gleeson helping Antrim?
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It's his community service/punishment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 14, 2019, 08:25:25 AM
seemed to be another good win yesterday. James mcNaughton is shaping into a fine hurler as we all thought he would. 3-09 from yesterdays game is a great return.

Final against Westmeath this weekend. I assume it will be the same venue?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Good luck to our lads today, will be hugely up against it, a very good Galway team.. hopefully we put in a performance..

Antrim unlucky yesterday with the game going straight to penalties! Plenty positives to take from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 20, 2019, 10:50:45 AM
Good luck to the Galls today. Hopefully CJ will do enough to earn himself a recall to the county set up..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on January 21, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
Is the league game vs Kerry at Corrigan or Cushendall. I was told Corrigan at the weekend but had previously meant to have been at Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on January 21, 2019, 10:11:12 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on January 21, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
Is the league game vs Kerry at Corrigan or Cushendall. I was told Corrigan at the weekend but had previously meant to have been at Cushendall

Both games at Corrigan this weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 22, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
i see people questioning on twitter why both games are in corrigan this weekend when previously advertised in Cdall and Glenavy.

to be fair  was told by one of the hurlers in the county panel over a week ago that the Kerry game was to be in Corrigan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 22, 2019, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 22, 2019, 09:55:46 AM
i see people questioning on twitter why both games are in corrigan this weekend when previously advertised in Cdall and Glenavy.

to be fair  was told by one of the hurlers in the county panel over a week ago that the Kerry game was to be in Corrigan.

We've been using our pitch for training over the winter and with 2 weeks training time to go to the All Ireland Semi Final the last thing we need is a match on it in these conditions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
makes sense to be fair, i wouldn't of expected yourselves to be giving up your pitch so close to the game.

how do you fancy your chances against them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2019, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
makes sense to be fair, i wouldn't of expected yourselves to be giving up your pitch so close to the game.

how do you fancy your chances against them?

The team we played at the weekend had played St Thomas's very recently in a challenge game, not sure how many first teamers were playing for St Thomas's but the supporters I was speaking to in the pub said it was good game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on January 26, 2019, 05:50:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2019, 01:43:40 PM
makes sense to be fair, i wouldn't of expected yourselves to be giving up your pitch so close to the game.

how do you fancy your chances against them?

It's a huge ask but if our big players perform we'll not be far away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on January 26, 2019, 09:21:41 AM
QuoteAntrim Hurlers to play Kerry #AllianzLeagues

1. Ryan Elliott Rian Mac Uileagóid Cú Chullain

2 Stephen Rooney Stiofán O Ruanaidh Naomh Pol

3 John Dillon Sean O Diolun Fanaithe An Gleanna

4 Phelim Duffin Feilim O Duifinn Cú Chullain

5 Ronan Molloy Rónán O Maolmhuiadh Cú Chullain

6 Simon Mc Crory Siomon Mac Ruairi Naomh Eoin

7 Matthew Donnelly Maitiú O Donnaile Mac Uilin

8 Conor McCann Conchúr Mac Cana Ciceam an Creagán

9 Conor Mc Hugh Conchuir Mac Aodha Roibeard Eimeid

10 Nigel Elliott Nigel Mac Uileagóid Cú Chullain

11 James Mc Naughton Seamus Mac Neachtain Na Seamroga

12 Nicky Mc Keague Nioclás Mac Thaidhg Cú Chullain

13 Eoin O Neill Eoin Ó Néill Cú Chullain

14 Keelan Molloy Keelan Maolmhuaidh Cú Chullain

15 Ciaran Clarke Ciaran O Cleirchin Mac Uilin

16 (GK) Kurtis Mc Greevy Kurtis Mag Riabhaigh Naomh Gall

17 James O Connell Seamas O Conail Gael Culuna

18 Conor Boyd Conchúr Búiteach Mac Uilin

19 Sean Duffin Sean O Duifinn Tir Na nOg

20 Connor Patterson Conchuir Mac Phaidin Oisin

21 John Mc Goldrick Sean Mac Gualraic Naomh Eanna

22 Connor Laverty Conchuir Mac Laibheartaigh Naomh Brid

23 Kevin Rice Caoimhin O Maolchraoibhe Ciceam an Creagán


Only one loughgiel player on the whole panel seems a bit strange to me  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2019, 10:24:04 AM
Donal McKinley has been involved too though not sure where he went.

Big Dunloy contingent. McNaughton Molloy and Clarke sounds like a dangerous enough forward unit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2019, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 26, 2019, 10:24:04 AM
Donal McKinley has been involved too though not sure where he went.

Big Dunloy contingent. McNaughton Molloy and Clarke sounds like a dangerous enough forward unit.

If they click and get decent ball in I'd say they'd run riot!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 26, 2019, 02:17:06 PM
http://mixlr.com/antrim-gaa-radio/

Commentary is brutal TBH
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on January 26, 2019, 03:07:17 PM
Well done Antrim gaa.

Having regular match Twitter updates and some pictures and videos for matches are great when unable to go to the match.

Now having live radio commentary as well is brilliant.  :)


Ps what club would let anyone train on their pitch this time of year...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2019, 04:50:33 PM
Well that was disappointing, hard to work that game out...

Kerry were full value and their first touch and tactics worked very well for them.

Losing a player to a straight red card after 5 minutes with Kerry already on top made a hard job even harder! New directive from Croke was simple this year, striking or deliberate hitting on helmets will earn a red card.. Though our lad ended up with a bad cut..

I thought at this point we'd get hammered but you have to credit the lads for rolling up their sleeves and got stuck in, a wonderful played goal by O'Neil brought Antrim to within a score of Kerry who at one point were 11 points up with an extra man!

And even when we lost another player Antrim still had an opportunity to level it at the death..


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 26, 2019, 08:10:07 PM
Niki deserved to walk
It wasn't intentional but wreckless
But Molloy first yellow was a joke
Kerry player caught him round the neck first
That ref had a habit of missing Kerry offences
Number 23 hit P Duffin in the nuts and then struck him in the stomach with the hurl right in front of ref and only got yellow
Kerry got some really soft frees to, the man was brutal
Antrim still has chances to beat them at the death but couldn't take them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2019, 11:17:48 PM
I wouldn't say a chance to beat them - just to salvage a draw which we wouldn't really have deserved.

Ref wasn't great for us. Kerry's last free was a blatant free out when our defender was blatantly dragged in front of the ref then he had a free given against him.

Disappointing performance to be honest. Kerry more physical but a lack of quality ball into forwards and playing it on top of spare men really didn't help.

Some goal by o'neill though and a few positive performances but disappointing that Kerry were just that bit better than us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 28, 2019, 08:41:58 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 26, 2019, 02:17:06 PM
http://mixlr.com/antrim-gaa-radio/

Commentary is brutal TBH

as great as it was to have this option the commentary was poor. i did send them a constructive criticism of the set up which they said was fair enough as they were using one phone to do it and it made it hard to hear at times.

the co-commentator was coming through first and the main person speaking was in the back ground hard to hear.

but here its a great service and one that can only get better.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2019, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 28, 2019, 08:41:58 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 26, 2019, 02:17:06 PM
http://mixlr.com/antrim-gaa-radio/

Commentary is brutal TBH

as great as it was to have this option the commentary was poor. i did send them a constructive criticism of the set up which they said was fair enough as they were using one phone to do it and it made it hard to hear at times.

the co-commentator was coming through first and the main person speaking was in the back ground hard to hear.

but here its a great service and one that can only get better.

It can only improve, and with some input from ones that were listening then I'd expect it to get better..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 29, 2019, 10:40:10 AM
Hurling leagues were changed at last night's County Committee meeting.

Div 1 & 2 will now be 10 teams and split in two after round 1 as per Div 1 & 2 Football leagues.

Promotion / relegation playoff introduced instead of 2 up 2 down.  eg. 2nd bottom Div 1 v 2nd in Div 2.

Football leagues remain same and the same arrangements for promotion / relegation introduced.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 29, 2019, 10:40:10 AM
Hurling leagues were changed at last night's County Committee meeting.

Div 1 & 2 will now be 10 teams and split in two after round 1 as per Div 1 & 2 Football leagues.

Promotion / relegation playoff introduced instead of 2 up 2 down.  eg. 2nd bottom Div 1 v 2nd in Div 2.

Football leagues remain same and the same arrangements for promotion / relegation introduced.

Thats actually very good (personal resasons of course) will allow us to have meaningful games with teams at our level and test ourselves against the top teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 29, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: aontroim on January 29, 2019, 10:40:10 AM
Hurling leagues were changed at last night's County Committee meeting.

Div 1 & 2 will now be 10 teams and split in two after round 1 as per Div 1 & 2 Football leagues.

Promotion / relegation playoff introduced instead of 2 up 2 down.  eg. 2nd bottom Div 1 v 2nd in Div 2.

Football leagues remain same and the same arrangements for promotion / relegation introduced.

Thats actually very good (personal resasons of course) will allow us to have meaningful games with teams at our level and test ourselves against the top teams

Are there details yet of the specific teams in each league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on January 29, 2019, 10:06:19 PM
Div 1
Cdall
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St John's
Rossa
St Galls
Ballygalget
Ballycran
Portaferry

Div 2
Randalstown
Cloughmills
Glenariffe
St Enda's
Ahoghill
Carey
Armoy
Sarsfields
Creggan
Dungannon

Div 3
Gort Na Mona
Cushendun
Rasharkin
St Paul's
Cuchullains
Carryduff
Bredagh
Na Magha (all games away from home 2019)

Div 4
Ballymena
Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Colmcille
St Teresas
Loch Mor Gaels
Davitts
St Agnes
Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 30, 2019, 12:05:16 AM
Div 2 very competitive again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 30, 2019, 06:37:20 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on January 29, 2019, 10:06:19 PM
Div 1
Cdall
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St John's
Rossa
St Galls
Ballygalget
Ballycran
Portaferry

Div 2
Randalstown
Cloughmills
Glenariffe
St Enda's
Ahoghill
Carey
Armoy
Sarsfields
Creggan
Dungannon

Div 3
Gort Na Mona
Cushendun
Rasharkin
St Paul's
Cuchullains
Carryduff
Bredagh
Na Magha (all games away from home 2019)

Div 4
Ballymena
Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Colmcille
St Teresas
Loch Mor Gaels
Davitts
St Agnes
Glenarm

All look as competitive as they can be in fairness- best for a while
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 30, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
Stupid decision IMHO, but sure what Frankie wants, Frankie gets!!!!

Leagues where competitive before this. Why change them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 30, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
Stupid decision IMHO, but sure what Frankie wants, Frankie gets!!!!

Leagues where competitive before this. Why change them?

So barring the two teams that came up from Div 2 as per rule.. of the teams that were relegated last year, would they make the leauge worse off? or is it because its now a ten team league that annoys you?

The div 2 league is as good as you'll get in terms of teams very well matched.. to get well matched teams in div 1 it would need to be a 6 team league tbh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 30, 2019, 09:44:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 30, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
Stupid decision IMHO, but sure what Frankie wants, Frankie gets!!!!

Leagues where competitive before this. Why change them?

So barring the two teams that came up from Div 2 as per rule.. of the teams that were relegated last year, would they make the leauge worse off? or is it because its now a ten team league that annoys you?

The div 2 league is as good as you'll get in terms of teams very well matched.. to get well matched teams in div 1 it would need to be a 6 team league tbh

Where did i say it annoyed me. I think its a stupid decision, doesn't mean it annoys me.

I personally think going back to a 10 team league means there will be a lot more meaningless games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 30, 2019, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 30, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
Stupid decision IMHO, but sure what Frankie wants, Frankie gets!!!!

Leagues where competitive before this. Why change them?

Probably won't do the Dall in any favours or the likes of Loughgeil, Dunloy etc in all fairness but will help the likes of us yoyo clubs, ourselves, Ballycastle, Rossa, St Galls as one year you'd get taking tankings in a good few games then the next year when down a division you'd be issuing out a good few tankings.
This way you get an intermediary set up where, yes we'll receive some tankings but by and large we'll still get most games at our level.
The Dall, Loughgeil and Dunloy are by and large still guaranteed their big home gates which was raised as a concern a few years back when Div1 was 10 teams but only 1 way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The div will split in two and those games that the bigger teams will want are there! at the buisness end of things also, so great prep for the Championship, while the ones that have been dropped into the botom half will have 'meaningful' games that will help with thier prep...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on January 30, 2019, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The div will split in two and those games that the bigger teams will want are there! at the buisness end of things also, so great prep for the Championship, while the ones that have been dropped into the botom half will have 'meaningful' games that will help with thier prep...

I think it is a good idea to have the splits etc but there was no need for a relegation playoff at the end. That will be a pointless match in October and you might have both sides trying to lose it!

One up and one down with no tinkering for at least 5 years is what's needed. No more interfering
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 30, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The div will split in two and those games that the bigger teams will want are there! at the buisness end of things also, so great prep for the Championship, while the ones that have been dropped into the botom half will have 'meaningful' games that will help with thier prep...

Was this not proved to be wrong before? when it came to the big games in the lead up to the championship none or maybe only one played their full hand in those games.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 30, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 30, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The div will split in two and those games that the bigger teams will want are there! at the buisness end of things also, so great prep for the Championship, while the ones that have been dropped into the botom half will have 'meaningful' games that will help with thier prep...

Was this not proved to be wrong before? when it came to the big games in the lead up to the championship none or maybe only one played their full hand in those games.

That may happen irrespective of the league structure and is really up to the teams involved.

Getting teams more games at their own level should be the aim and also exposing them to a higher level once in a while can bring a team on, especially a young, developing team and I think this league format may help to do that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 01:45:50 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 30, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 09:55:20 AM
The div will split in two and those games that the bigger teams will want are there! at the buisness end of things also, so great prep for the Championship, while the ones that have been dropped into the botom half will have 'meaningful' games that will help with thier prep...

Was this not proved to be wrong before? when it came to the big games in the lead up to the championship none or maybe only one played their full hand in those games.

My own view NAG1, as an ex manager, I'd personally prefer a few competitive games in the lead up to championship.. if a club prefers to wrap their lads up in cotton wool before the championship knowing they are safe from the drop then thats down to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 30, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: podge on January 30, 2019, 06:37:20 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on January 29, 2019, 10:06:19 PM
Div 1
Cdall
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St John's
Rossa
St Galls
Ballygalget
Ballycran
Portaferry

Div 2
Randalstown
Cloughmills
Glenariffe
St Enda's
Ahoghill
Carey
Armoy
Sarsfields
Creggan
Dungannon

Div 3
Gort Na Mona
Cushendun
Rasharkin
St Paul's
Cuchullains
Carryduff
Bredagh
Na Magha (all games away from home 2019)

Div 4
Ballymena
Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Colmcille
St Teresas
Loch Mor Gaels
Davitts
St Agnes
Glenarm

All look as competitive as they can be in fairness- best for a while

Does this mean no home matches for non Antrim teams bar the Ards teams and Bredagh / Carryduff (Belfast)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 30, 2019, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on January 30, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: podge on January 30, 2019, 06:37:20 AM
Quote from: thedog 83 on January 29, 2019, 10:06:19 PM
Div 1
Cdall
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St John's
Rossa
St Galls
Ballygalget
Ballycran
Portaferry

Div 2
Randalstown
Cloughmills
Glenariffe
St Enda's
Ahoghill
Carey
Armoy
Sarsfields
Creggan
Dungannon

Div 3
Gort Na Mona
Cushendun
Rasharkin
St Paul's
Cuchullains
Carryduff
Bredagh
Na Magha (all games away from home 2019)

Div 4
Ballymena
Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Colmcille
St Teresas
Loch Mor Gaels
Davitts
St Agnes
Glenarm

All look as competitive as they can be in fairness- best for a while

Does this mean no home matches for non Antrim teams bar the Ards teams and Bredagh / Carryduff (Belfast)

Armagh and Dungannon seem to have home fixtures, not sure why Na Magha are different.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: aontroim on January 30, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
Na Magha are playing all Antrim league games away from home in 2019 as a result of an investigation into one of their home league games last season - penalty from CCC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on January 30, 2019, 10:41:07 PM
I really can't see what all the fuss is to be honest with the restructuring of the leagues. 8 teams or 10 teams with a split after 9 games means you will still roughly get the same number of decent games


Top 5  Will be in my oponion:

Cushendall
St John's
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycran.

THAT should give them teams at least 8 good quality games.

Then depending on where you play the other teams, you might get it tough if you have to play Portaferry in the Ards or St Galls in the bog meadow for example.

People love whining for whinings sake.

Play the leagues, everyone knows championship is what it is about anyhow. Ask someone who won div 1 league 15 years ago and they probably couldn't tell you, ask them who won senior championship 15 years ago and that'll be a different matter



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!

Think you'll find it's taken more than ten years for the Johnnies to be competitive, how they get over the line still needs to be worked out..

so I'll ask again.. would the top teams prefer to play the top four teams each week? To stop the 'unmeaningfull' games.. or should the top two Derry teams play with Ballycran, Johnnies, Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall?

That's a serious question, whatever works to increase the standard, but you'll have just semi final and final each year in championship I'd assume.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on January 30, 2019, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!

Think you'll find it's taken more than ten years for the Johnnies to be competitive, how they get over the line still needs to be worked out..

so I'll ask again.. would the top teams prefer to play the top four teams each week? To stop the 'unmeaningfull' games.. or should the top two Derry teams play with Ballycran, Johnnies, Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall?

That's a serious question, whatever works to increase the standard, but you'll have just semi final and final each year in championship I'd assume.

Maybe heading in the direction of an Ulster league? Down teams in Antrim league. Dungannon (Tyrone) and Na Magha (Derry) in Antrim league. Carrickmore (Tyrone) in Derry league occasionally. Derry teams in Antrim U16 and minor leagues. Tyrone teams in Derry underage leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on January 30, 2019, 11:44:21 PM
Quote from: thedog 83 on January 29, 2019, 10:06:19 PM
Div 1
Cdall
Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ballycastle
St John's
Rossa
St Galls
Ballygalget
Ballycran
Portaferry

Div 2
Randalstown
Cloughmills
Glenariffe
St Enda's
Ahoghill
Carey
Armoy
Sarsfields
Creggan
Dungannon

Div 3
Gort Na Mona
Cushendun
Rasharkin
St Paul's
Cuchullains
Carryduff
Bredagh
Na Magha (all games away from home 2019)

Div 4
Ballymena
Glenravel
Lamh Dhearg
Naomh Colmcille
St Teresas
Loch Mor Gaels
Davitts
St Agnes
Glenarm

Are these leagues finalised as I had heard Davitts and St Agnes weren't playing all county league only South Antrim and also Latharna Og have a senior team entered again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 31, 2019, 08:17:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!

Think you'll find it's taken more than ten years for the Johnnies to be competitive, how they get over the line still needs to be worked out..

so I'll ask again.. would the top teams prefer to play the top four teams each week? To stop the 'unmeaningfull' games.. or should the top two Derry teams play with Ballycran, Johnnies, Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall?

That's a serious question, whatever works to increase the standard, but you'll have just semi final and final each year in championship I'd assume.

i dont think you understand fully what was meant by unmeaningful / meaningless games.

There are plenty of meaningless games between the top 4/5 teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 31, 2019, 09:43:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!

Think you'll find it's taken more than ten years for the Johnnies to be competitive, how they get over the line still needs to be worked out..

so I'll ask again.. would the top teams prefer to play the top four teams each week? To stop the 'unmeaningfull' games.. or should the top two Derry teams play with Ballycran, Johnnies, Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall?

That's a serious question, whatever works to increase the standard, but you'll have just semi final and final each year in championship I'd assume.

Bang on the money there MR2.

The 10 years work with one group of hurlers and some very fine hurlers in that group will come to nought if you don't put in the same effort with subsequent groups to keep that conveyor belt going and this is where Skull would be right to mention the critical mass of people involved with a club to do that.

The larger clubs will be more likely to achieve this. Smaller clubs may achieve it for a while with a group or two but find it hard to sustain irrespective of coaching plans and so forth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2019, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: Megaman on January 31, 2019, 08:17:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2019, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hand up on January 30, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
A Bullshit League as had been proved time and time again over the last 15 years!! Perhaps the Yo Yo teams should stop standing at the top table with their hand out, and help themselves. The only team I honestly see making an improvement in overall standards and likely to stay in Div 1 for years to come are StJohns. That took 10 years of work!!

Think you'll find it's taken more than ten years for the Johnnies to be competitive, how they get over the line still needs to be worked out..

so I'll ask again.. would the top teams prefer to play the top four teams each week? To stop the 'unmeaningfull' games.. or should the top two Derry teams play with Ballycran, Johnnies, Loughgiel Dunloy and Cushendall?

That's a serious question, whatever works to increase the standard, but you'll have just semi final and final each year in championship I'd assume.

i dont think you understand fully what was meant by unmeaningful / meaningless games.

There are plenty of meaningless games between the top 4/5 teams.

Having been at the coalface for so many years in various roles within the hurling in my club I think I understand..

Trying to stand up to a clubs traditional background and change a mindset has ruined many a good man... I took teams from under 10 under 12 for many years.. a lot of those lads played in 2 All Ireland semi finals, some even managed to get to Croke park with their team mates to play a final.. all the while playing football at a higher grade..

Ive never asked for anything from the top teams... they do what they do and we'll try and reach that point, consistency is our downfall, I know we've a cracking under 12 team coming through from last year, but we need another 2 teams to follow that to become strong come senior, its hard work trying to juggle their football commitments and outside interests also (soccer and the like)

If you live in a parish that does nothing else but hurl, no outside distractions and the club is the heartbeat of the village then you are on to a winner.. The Johnnies believe it or not are still a football club (I'll get called up on that by some) they have as much if not more tradition that ourselves and changing that mindset is difficult..

There are no poor me's in this post, it is what it is, we'll still have committed members pushing through with teams and I'll go back to what Ive said in the past, maybe we need a seperate hurling club from the club, that just hurls, probably then we'd get the commitment and time with the players to develop them the way it should be, like other single code clubs that are successful. (S'neil being the exception to the rule)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Megaman on January 31, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
wtf has any of that got to do with what i said  ???  ???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Megaman on January 31, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
wtf has any of that got to do with what i said  ???  ???

Quote from: Megaman on January 31, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
wtf has any of that got to do with what i said  ???  ???

Sorry, I was still ranting on with Hand up!

But in relation to meaningfull games, all clubs should take seriously all their games in the league as it should reflect come championship if there is seedings (which I thought there was at a time lately)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on January 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
So if a team have 5/6 players at the county they should still have to field and potentially not qualify for the top 5? How many matches are acceptable to play without county players?

I have to disagree. They are club players, they don't belong to the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 01, 2019, 01:10:23 AM
Antrim team named for Meath game

1. Ryan Elliott
2. Stephen Rooney
3. John Dillon
4. Phelim Duffin
5. Ronan Molloy
6. Matthew Donnelly
7. Conor McHugh
8. Sean Duffin
9. Conor Boyd
10. Nigel Elliott
11. Conor McCann
12. James McNaughton
13. Eoin O'Neill
14. Keelan Molloy
15. Ciaran Clarke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 01, 2019, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
So if a team have 5/6 players at the county they should still have to field and potentially not qualify for the top 5? How many matches are acceptable to play without county players?

I have to disagree. They are club players, they don't belong to the county.

affects my own club. we have 7 on the panel and id be more than happy to play games without them. thats what your reserves and panel is for is it not? or is the fear of trying to give others the chance to great for some teams?

and what is qualifying for the top 5 going to do for anyone? other than miss a potential gate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 02, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 01, 2019, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
So if a team have 5/6 players at the county they should still have to field and potentially not qualify for the top 5? How many matches are acceptable to play without county players?

I have to disagree. They are club players, they don't belong to the county.

affects my own club. we have 7 on the panel and id be more than happy to play games without them. thats what your reserves and panel is for is it not? or is the fear of trying to give others the chance to great for some teams?

and what is qualifying for the top 5 going to do for anyone? other than miss a potential gate

That's all well and good for a big parish and big club like Dunloy-there are plenty of players  on the panel from Div 2 & 3 clubs that struggle to get a team together on occasions and they might get relegated or miss a promotion if their best players are missing for particular matches. I also think the quality of the club matches is naturally diluted of the top players are not playing. Players will only improve by competing against the best.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2019, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: podge on February 02, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 01, 2019, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
So if a team have 5/6 players at the county they should still have to field and potentially not qualify for the top 5? How many matches are acceptable to play without county players?

I have to disagree. They are club players, they don't belong to the county.

affects my own club. we have 7 on the panel and id be more than happy to play games without them. thats what your reserves and panel is for is it not? or is the fear of trying to give others the chance to great for some teams?

and what is qualifying for the top 5 going to do for anyone? other than miss a potential gate

That's all well and good for a big parish and big club like Dunloy-there are plenty of players  on the panel from Div 2 & 3 clubs that struggle to get a team together on occasions and they might get relegated or miss a promotion if their best players are missing for particular matches. I also think the quality of the club matches is naturally diluted of the top players are not playing. Players will only improve by competing against the best.

So what do the div 1 counties do in relation to leagues? If they play the starred games (Like we did in the past) does it harm their county team or improve it?

And does a successful senior county team then improve standards within the county ? We are too fixed on our clubs (myself included) too parochial, we don't play as a team as most players have a slight dislike for each other not healthy!

I don't know what the answer is overall but whatever we've done after Dinny first took charge has not really been something to shout about

We should be beating Meath and Kerry and the rest in this league but we'll struggle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 02, 2019, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2019, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: podge on February 02, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 01, 2019, 09:00:53 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on January 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 31, 2019, 03:11:18 PM
the teams should also not be allowed to cancel games when they are missing county players. its something ive always disagreed with that teams wont play minus their county lads.

are we going to have to endure this again this season with a long break of no games?
So if a team have 5/6 players at the county they should still have to field and potentially not qualify for the top 5? How many matches are acceptable to play without county players?

I have to disagree. They are club players, they don't belong to the county.

affects my own club. we have 7 on the panel and id be more than happy to play games without them. thats what your reserves and panel is for is it not? or is the fear of trying to give others the chance to great for some teams?

and what is qualifying for the top 5 going to do for anyone? other than miss a potential gate

That's all well and good for a big parish and big club like Dunloy-there are plenty of players  on the panel from Div 2 & 3 clubs that struggle to get a team together on occasions and they might get relegated or miss a promotion if their best players are missing for particular matches. I also think the quality of the club matches is naturally diluted of the top players are not playing. Players will only improve by competing against the best.

So what do the div 1 counties do in relation to leagues? If they play the starred games (Like we did in the past) does it harm their county team or improve it?

And does a successful senior county team then improve standards within the county ? We are too fixed on our clubs (myself included) too parochial, we don't play as a team as most players have a slight dislike for each other not healthy!

I don't know what the answer is overall but whatever we've done after Dinny first took charge has not really been something to shout about

We should be beating Meath and Kerry and the rest in this league but we'll struggle

I don't know what they do but I am not it's comparable in any case.  I expect the number of clubs and the playing population in Most top counties is significantly greater than it is in Antrim and the quality may not suffer just as much as it might here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 03, 2019, 01:36:19 PM
Is there any radio coverage today?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2019, 06:38:33 PM
Phew
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2019, 06:38:33 PM
Phew

Last minute winner. Would take that everyday! They'll be buoyed with that result..

Well done to all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2019, 07:27:49 PM
Yeah it's a young squad so hopefully will help them on too. Interesting to see Kerry push Westmeath so close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2019, 07:27:49 PM
Yeah it's a young squad so hopefully will help them on too. Interesting to see Kerry push Westmeath so close.

Was impressed by them last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 04, 2019, 04:10:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2019, 07:27:49 PM
Yeah it's a young squad so hopefully will help them on too. Interesting to see Kerry push Westmeath so close.

Was impressed by them last week

Going by the reports Kerry were very unlucky against Westmeath, were winning by 6 at a stage and 3 of the Westmeath goals were meant to be gifted them. For ourselves it was great to get the win and will only push the young lads on even more. We are down a lot of players and it's great to see young lads coming in and making an impression. By the start of the Joe McDonagh campaign we could have an exciting panel raring to go.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2019, 09:07:58 AM
Yeah Kerry had some beasts of men in defense plus a couple of handy forwards who when given space look to be able to punish you.

Good result yesterday. It is especially pleasing to show the character to grind a result like that out in the closing stages. This will hopefully build some confidence for some of the younger boys. McNaughton looks to be coming into his own now too which is great to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 05, 2019, 08:49:17 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2019, 09:07:58 AM
Yeah Kerry had some beasts of men in defense plus a couple of handy forwards who when given space look to be able to punish you.

Good result yesterday. It is especially pleasing to show the character to grind a result like that out in the closing stages. This will hopefully build some confidence for some of the younger boys. McNaughton looks to be coming into his own now too which is great to see.

his scoring rate since hes been taking the frees has been unreal. a superb talent and one that can lead us forward this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2019, 08:07:10 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/brexit-a-very-real-concern-as-cushendall-eye-an-all-ireland-final-1.3784650

Brexit a 'very real concern' as Cushendall eye an All-Ireland final
Antrim club and Neil McManus focusing on task at hand against St Thomas

Seán Moran

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Neil McManus in action for Antrim during the Joe McDonagh/Christy Ring Cup relegation/promotion play-off last summer. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/Inpho
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Neil McManus is preparing for a fifth AIB All-Ireland club semi-final. Just one has been successful but, encouragingly, that was against Galway club Sarsfields three years ago.
This Saturday in Dublin's Parnell Park Cushendall face the current western champions, St Thomas's, hoping to reach another final and enjoy it a bit more than the 2016 defeat by Limerick's Na Piarsaigh.
There's more than St Patrick's Day on the horizon in March, though. Later that month the UK is scheduled to withdraw from the EU and, in the current chaos over how to avoid a disorderly departure, the prospect of a no-deal Brexit is uncomfortably vivid for someone from Antrim, who travels regularly to Dublin.
"Aye," says McManus. "It's the only thing we hear about in the North, anyway. If the outcome of Brexit means a hard border then it's a huge problem. I'm in Dublin a couple of times a week.
"Are you going to be getting out and having your hurls – all the lads who are finished playing well tell you, they remember crossing the Border, bus stopped, off you get, through your kit bag, soldiers taking your hurls, throwing them away and all this carry on. We don't want to be involved in that, that's for sure."
McManus has vague childhood memories of the Border.
"I remember sitting in the car with my father driving and just sitting in queues and stuff but very little. Things have changed hugely apart from a couple of times when a police officer would stop and say, 'What are you doing?' with a hurl in your hand when I was waiting on a lift in Belfast, this type of stuff. There's very little of that going on nowadays really and certainly not in the Glens. There's more people walking about with hurls than without them.
Relatively untouched
"Certain areas in the North have moved on further than others probably to be totally honest. The Glens was relatively untouched by the Troubles. There were instances where there were fatalities and things like that but they were fewer, a huge amount fewer than in Belfast or Border areas. So I don't see a huge change for the Glens but for the people of the North, Brexit's a very, very real concern."
On Wednesday Croke Park stadium director Peter McKenna also expressed his concerns for the GAA in the event of a disorderly departure.
"I think the uncertainty of the Irish economy is the real concern and we are a subset of that. In terms of conferencing, an orderly Brexit won't have a huge issue in my view. We have operated with different VAT rates and different currencies and so on.
"An open border would be the ideal solution in many respects. Import tariffs that would come in on agricultural products would definitely have an impact and I guess we anticipated that by putting our own pitch facilities in the Naul (GAA grass farm). Other things are hard to put a finger on. It is the uncertainty that we would be concerned about."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
Any thoughts on cushendall game?

I hope they win but have to say I don't think they have the forwards, without Carson especially, to make a dent at this level. Hope i'm wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
Any thoughts on cushendall game?

I hope they win but have to say I don't think they have the forwards, without Carson especially, to make a dent at this level. Hope i'm wrong.

Pitch is going to be heavy so not fast crisp hurling with a dry ball.
Cushendall are physical and don't mind a dog fight.
Imm going to give them a chance at least.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2019, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
Any thoughts on cushendall game?

I hope they win but have to say I don't think they have the forwards, without Carson especially, to make a dent at this level. Hope i'm wrong.

Pitch is going to be heavy so not fast crisp hurling with a dry ball.
Cushendall are physical and don't mind a dog fight.
Imm going to give them a chance at least.

Cushendall have the defenders to match St Thomas's forwards, as you say it's whether they have enough up front.. this is going to be a battle. I think they are more evenly matched than the bookies believe..

Carson is a loss but the style of play will change because of it, Cushendalls best 15 could have enough to win but, should Cushendall need to spring someone from the bench to change the game then they might be in trouble. St Thomas's have been here with the same team before and got over the line and won the final, that experience is great to have, the Dall's experience is important too.

Could come down to free count, whoever gives away the least amount of frees will come through.

Can't make it as I'm doing something, first I've missed in a while for Antrim teams involved. Don't be shocked to see a draw, I was there years ago when Cushendall drew with Mullane's team! That was tough on them that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 08, 2019, 07:09:54 AM
We've nothing to fear going to face St. Thomas's. Parnell Park will be a bog particularly given the weather today and that should suit us down to the ground. Whether we start with Carson or McAfee in full forward our game plan won't change. They are both hard to work with on the edge of the square and if they aren't winning clean ball they are breaking it down for those around them. It'll be a day for doing the basics well, keep it simple. Slaughtneil could and probably should have beaten Na Piarsaigh last year but for some bad mistakes when overplaying and taking too much out of the ball. Play to our strengths, we are a big strong physical team. Route 1 please and we'll be in with a shout.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 08, 2019, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on February 08, 2019, 07:09:54 AM
We've nothing to fear going to face St. Thomas's. Parnell Park will be a bog particularly given the weather today and that should suit us down to the ground. Whether we start with Carson or McAfee in full forward our game plan won't change. They are both hard to work with on the edge of the square and if they aren't winning clean ball they are breaking it down for those around them. It'll be a day for doing the basics well, keep it simple. Slaughtneil could and probably should have beaten Na Piarsaigh last year but for some bad mistakes when overplaying and taking too much out of the ball. Play to our strengths, we are a big strong physical team. Route 1 please and we'll be in with a shout.

Best of luck Jesus, you've nothing to lose or fear from St Joseph's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2019, 09:45:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2019, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
Any thoughts on cushendall game?

I hope they win but have to say I don't think they have the forwards, without Carson especially, to make a dent at this level. Hope i'm wrong.

Pitch is going to be heavy so not fast crisp hurling with a dry ball.
Cushendall are physical and don't mind a dog fight.
Imm going to give them a chance at least.

Cushendall have the defenders to match St Thomas's forwards, as you say it's whether they have enough up front.. this is going to be a battle. I think they are more evenly matched than the bookies believe..

Carson is a loss but the style of play will change because of it, Cushendalls best 15 could have enough to win but, should Cushendall need to spring someone from the bench to change the game then they might be in trouble. St Thomas's have been here with the same team before and got over the line and won the final, that experience is great to have, the Dall's experience is important too.

Could come down to free count, whoever gives away the least amount of frees will come through.

Can't make it as I'm doing something, first I've missed in a while for Antrim teams involved. Don't be shocked to see a draw, I was there years ago when Cushendall drew with Mullane's team! That was tough on them that day

Was there that day to the Dall v le salle, do you remember "the bull" Phelans side line cut to win it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2019, 09:49:06 AM
Good luck to the Dall, a big shift from mc Manus and you should pull it off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2019, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2019, 09:45:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2019, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2019, 10:03:01 PM
Any thoughts on cushendall game?

I hope they win but have to say I don't think they have the forwards, without Carson especially, to make a dent at this level. Hope i'm wrong.

Pitch is going to be heavy so not fast crisp hurling with a dry ball.
Cushendall are physical and don't mind a dog fight.
Imm going to give them a chance at least.

Cushendall have the defenders to match St Thomas's forwards, as you say it's whether they have enough up front.. this is going to be a battle. I think they are more evenly matched than the bookies believe..

Carson is a loss but the style of play will change because of it, Cushendalls best 15 could have enough to win but, should Cushendall need to spring someone from the bench to change the game then they might be in trouble. St Thomas's have been here with the same team before and got over the line and won the final, that experience is great to have, the Dall's experience is important too.

Could come down to free count, whoever gives away the least amount of frees will come through.

Can't make it as I'm doing something, first I've missed in a while for Antrim teams involved. Don't be shocked to see a draw, I was there years ago when Cushendall drew with Mullane's team! That was tough on them that day

Was there that day to the Dall v le salle, do you remember "the bull" Phelans side line cut to win it.

Yeah, over at the far side of the pitch from the stand! Christ what a fecking score! he was a great player for Waterford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 08, 2019, 11:11:51 AM
Was also some block by Aaron Graffin on Mullane, just as Mullane was about to pull the trigger.

Phelan's sideline cut was something else, especially as the pressure was on him. Miss and De La Salle are out - score it to bring the match to extra time.

Is Bernard Burke playing for St Thomas'? He done some serious damage v Loughgiel in the semi final replay in Clones a few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 08, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
For this one, St. Thomas' have a clean bill of health, which means they can call on their host of big-game players including Fintan Burke, James Regan, the Burke brothers (David, Eanna, Darragh, Cathal and Kenneth), the Cooney brothers (Donal, Shane and Conor) and Bernard Burke.

Source - Connaught tribune
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2019, 01:53:58 PM
Should be a cracker, good luck Cushendall. Hopefully the weather does not spoil it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 08, 2019, 05:52:45 PM
heading down to the game sat morning. honestly i cant see much in the game but i fancy the galway men to win by 6/7 at the end up.

i do hope am wrong though. was there last time in Navan when they beat Sarsfields so it would be nice to see them get back in another final.

good luck to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2019, 07:19:59 PM
Have Cushendall ever been beaten by 7 at this stage before?

Has any Antrim team been beaten by 7 at this stage before?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2019, 07:30:10 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Club_Hurling_Championship (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Club_Hurling_Championship)

I suspect Antrim and cushendall teams have been but am not 100% sure. Doesn't happen too often though.

Some interesting stats on that page. Watson among top scorers.

Cushendall have been beat by 5 and 6 before. Rossa and dunloy by 8. Ballygalget ran newtownshandrum to a point. Didn't realise that.

(Dunloy by 12 one year too)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 08, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
I think Birr beat us handy in 92. Since then we've at least been in the game till the death.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on February 08, 2019, 08:41:06 PM
I was at cushendall v doora-barefield, a good few years ago, the Clare team had 3 all stars, I think it was a drawn game and doora won in extra time, similar to de la salle more recently. They hammered sarsfields 3 years ago in Navan. Il not make the game tomorrow but I'm hoping the dall, will come through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 08, 2019, 09:42:35 PM
Doora-Barefield beat us in a replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on February 09, 2019, 06:07:31 AM
My memory is fading a bit, I mustn't have been at the replay, I've seen cushendall a good few times, and they have been involved in some epic battles, best of luck today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on February 09, 2019, 10:42:51 AM
Thanks. That Doora-Barefield team had Seanie McMahon center back, Ollie Baker at midfield and Jamsie O'Connor wing forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on February 09, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
Best of luck today JJ...Up the Dall!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on February 09, 2019, 11:52:22 AM
Good luck to the Dall today!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 03:12:38 PM
Cushendall well up for this although mccambridge could do with calming down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 03:20:00 PM
Giving away tooooooo many frees ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 03:27:57 PM
Them other boys are sharp though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
They've got to go 15 on 15 contest the puck outs and play the hurling in their half...

Now St Thomas's have some skill behind them in fairness, fielding and making scoring opportunities they have done well this first half..

Hopefully a better second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 04:06:45 PM
fair play to them - they've fairly come out fighting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 04:28:09 PM
That's rotten, that's as tough a match to lose as any before for me they had a chance to beat the favourites for the title!

Unlucky Cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2019, 04:28:29 PM
Gutting for them. Fair play to those players. That was some effort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 09, 2019, 05:45:24 PM
Anyone else think the ref was poor? Not saying he cost cushendall, not at all. Just god dam poor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2019, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: podge on February 09, 2019, 05:45:24 PM
Anyone else think the ref was poor? Not saying he cost cushendall, not at all. Just god dam poor?

He was poor for both in fairness.. as he was in the televised game last week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 09, 2019, 06:31:08 PM
Ref wasn't bias one way so that's a bonus down there.
Dall will regret the lead they gave them. Mammoth effort to get back into it.
Hard luck lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2019, 12:07:09 AM
Was gutted for cdall today. I went to the game thinking they would be doing well to stay within 7/8 of the Galway men but by Christ they give their all.
First half they played very little but second half they give their all.
Seriously good effort from them all but that lead they give them at half time left them climbing hills.
Great second half as a neutral to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 10, 2019, 03:04:17 PM
Storming second half from the Dall but actually thought they were lacking a bit of composure towards the end, think they only scored 0-1 from 50th minute to the end, about 17 mins in total. They had chances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 03:12:36 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 10, 2019, 03:04:17 PM
Storming second half from the Dall but actually thought they were lacking a bit of composure towards the end, think they only scored 0-1 from 50th minute to the end, about 17 mins in total. They had chances.

It's times like that in a game that you (as a manager) want a time out!

Assess things and move on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 11, 2019, 09:04:51 AM
I don't think the ref did much wrong from where I was. Cushendall will be kicking themselves for sure as it was the one that got away!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 11, 2019, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2019, 07:30:10 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Club_Hurling_Championship (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Club_Hurling_Championship)

I suspect Antrim and cushendall teams have been but am not 100% sure. Doesn't happen too often though.

Some interesting stats on that page. Watson among top scorers.

Cushendall have been beat by 5 and 6 before. Rossa and dunloy by 8. Ballygalget ran newtownshandrum to a point. Didn't realise that.

(Dunloy by 12 one year too)

And Brian Gavin kept his whistle in his pocket when their keeper clotheslined our corner forward right at the end, the big, ignorant, f**ker from Offaly.


I'm not bitter  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2019, 11:15:40 AM
I still haven't forgiven the offaly ref Padraig Horan(I think it was him) for our game against wexford the year we should have beat them with Liam Watson getting more or less assaulted by Dave Guiney every time he got the ball and barely ever getting a free then Codd putting them in front at the bitter end when the game was in the mix. Damn offaly refs...

Still really feel for Cushendall :( Such a great 2nd half performance and they must be gutted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2019, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2019, 11:15:40 AM
I still haven't forgiven the offaly ref Padraig Horan(I think it was him) for our game against wexford the year we should have beat them with Liam Watson getting more or less assaulted by Dave Guiney every time he got the ball and barely ever getting a free then Codd putting them in front at the bitter end when the game was in the mix. Damn offaly refs...

Still really feel for Cushendall :( Such a great 2nd half performance and they must be gutted.

Yes that man shafted us that day,remember the goal disallowed for square ball. Still they brought Rory Mc Carthy into the game and we let him run amok. We also shot some bad wides.
But Horan was never gonna let us win that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 11, 2019, 02:37:11 PM
I was livid after that Antrim vs Wexford game. Totally shafted by the referee. Antrim should have refused to play in the following years championship in protest.  But to classy to even say anything about it. Talked to a Wexford lady after the game she was embarrassed they won said the referee wronged Antrim.

Cushendall fierce unlucky maybe if Carson was on earlier it might have made a difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
I see Ross Carr on Twitter giving out about something David Burke said to fergus mccambridge in cushendall match. Wonder what that was?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2019, 08:00:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
I see Ross Carr on Twitter giving out about something David Burke said to fergus mccambridge in cushendall match. Wonder what that was?
Fella on Twitter says a fella said something about another fella.  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 08:50:22 AM
Ross Carr played football at the top level for years so I'm sure has heard plenty and seems like a decent enough sort so thought it must have been rough if he'd been on about it... If it was some random guy I'd have said that too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 13, 2019, 09:06:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
I see Ross Carr on Twitter giving out about something David Burke said to fergus mccambridge in cushendall match. Wonder what that was?

Funny I'm just after listening to the GAA Hour there, where David Burke said Fergus got the better of him over the 60 minutes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2019, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 13, 2019, 09:06:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
I see Ross Carr on Twitter giving out about something David Burke said to fergus mccambridge in cushendall match. Wonder what that was?

Funny I'm just after listening to the GAA Hour there, where David Burke said Fergus got the better of him over the 60 minutes.

Fair to say there is a bit of back tracking going on on his part.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 13, 2019, 09:12:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2019, 09:07:43 AM
Quote from: MoChara on February 13, 2019, 09:06:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 07:47:52 AM
I see Ross Carr on Twitter giving out about something David Burke said to fergus mccambridge in cushendall match. Wonder what that was?

Funny I'm just after listening to the GAA Hour there, where David Burke said Fergus got the better of him over the 60 minutes.

Fair to say there is a bit of back tracking going on on his part.

Only seen the Tweet there now referencing the podcast, someone else speculating in the comments that he had prior form for this with Loughgiel in the comments
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2019, 09:24:57 AM
McCambridge had a very good game on saturday. He had been getting rave reports prior to the championship but maybe didn't do it so much in antrim but definitely lived up to the billing at the weekend. Possibly more suited to midfield than the forward line looking at him. Probably had a better game than McManus and you'd rarely hear that said.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 13, 2019, 08:39:45 PM
Not sure who said what in the Loughgiel matches in 2013. From what I heard some Loughgiel players weren't happy and still aren't til this day. Maybe the Loughgiel lads on here might know more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 09:23:55 PM
Jesus lads, a player takes the piss and everyone looses their shit?

There's not a game that goes by that I haven't heard arseholes wind players up..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2019, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on February 13, 2019, 08:39:45 PM
Not sure who said what in the Loughgiel matches in 2013. From what I heard some Loughgiel players weren't happy and still aren't til this day. Maybe the Loughgiel lads on here might know more.

As far as I can remember being told PJ O'Mullan asked the manager of St Thomas to leave the changing room over the abuse they took. All the usual stuff about being a Brit and nordie etc was thrown about on Saturday past also to McCambridge and other players.

Personally I think it's a sc**bag action to be at. It's not taking the piss or winding up, it's abuse and it's on the same par as racial or homophobic abuse in my book.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:23:41 PM
It's the norm and has been happening for years, not right but any county player will tell you that stuff is standard..

We beat the Galway champs a few years ago, I made sure our captain went into their changing rooms and told the Galway lads to keep up the good work in Galway, I know it's tough, blah blah. The standard shite they would have given back..

Nothing near racial or homophobic abuse
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2019, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:23:41 PM
It's the norm and has been happening for years, not right but any county player will tell you that stuff is standard..

We beat the Galway champs a few years ago, I made sure our captain went into their changing rooms and told the Galway lads to keep up the good work in Galway, I know it's tough, blah blah. The standard shite they would have given back..

Nothing near racial or homophobic abuse

Standard or not, do we keep accepting it? We just keep taking it and say nothing as that's the manly thing to do? F**k that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 13, 2019, 10:30:02 PM
Only heard of the one incident on Saturday (involving Burke). Don't know anout anything else.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:32:42 PM
The only way to settle those things is on the pitch, and after the match ram it do their throat..

The cricketers are in the limelight at the minute about the abuse.

Referees should be given powers to react to this sort of stuff should it be in ear shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 13, 2019, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:32:42 PM
The only way to settle those things is on the pitch, and after the match ram it do their throat..

The cricketers are in the limelight at the minute about the abuse.

Referees should be given powers to react to this sort of stuff should it be in ear shot.

Agree 100% on the refs being allowed to act against it, but how many would consider it banter and part of the game and not act?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:48:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 13, 2019, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2019, 10:32:42 PM
The only way to settle those things is on the pitch, and after the match ram it do their throat..

The cricketers are in the limelight at the minute about the abuse.

Referees should be given powers to react to this sort of stuff should it be in ear shot.

Agree 100% on the refs being allowed to act against it, but how many would consider it banter and part of the game and not act?

I think any ref with any moral compass will know the difference, these things should have been tackled years ago, and haven't been.

But I've heard shite all the time and from players from certain clubs, hurling and football snobs I'd say and I've told them to wind their next in and have a bitta respect, unfortunately that's as far as I can go
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 14, 2019, 09:10:42 AM
Galway has a history of this with Antrim over the years. I remember pinky got the line at salt hill. The abuse he was getting was that bad he duly obliged with some timber, Off he goes and the winner is.
There's been a few incidents over the years but I am surprised it was David Burke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hand up on February 14, 2019, 10:08:13 PM
It's a bit much too ask the Refs to control this as well, they have enough trouble making up rules as they go ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2019, 10:13:44 PM
Quote from: Hand up on February 14, 2019, 10:08:13 PM
It's a bit much too ask the Refs to control this as well, they have enough trouble making up rules as they go ;)

Hopefully you get the rub of the green this season, the amount of gurning never helps ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 15, 2019, 01:06:59 PM
any idea as to when the league fixtures are out?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 16, 2019, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on February 15, 2019, 01:06:59 PM
any idea as to when the league fixtures are out?

Fixture dates have been announced, I'm surprised that they didn't release the actual fixtures taking place on  these dates. Id have thought all league fixtures would have been released before Monday's championship draw unless they release them at the draw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 17, 2019, 09:08:02 PM
I assume promotion is impossible after today ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 18, 2019, 08:37:53 AM
barring results going our way as in the teams at the lower end beating the top end teams we will be in this league next year. its not a bad thing when you look at our league results as we are where we need to be at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 18, 2019, 01:16:05 PM
That's our level for sure, going up would be pointless. Very impressed with Westmeath who dominated all over the field, beat us in the air and the dirty ball. Better movement and when they played against the breeze they worked the ball up the field intelligently and some great finishing. The two point deficit was flattering to our lads.
Stay in this group and try and improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2019, 01:35:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 18, 2019, 01:16:05 PM
That's our level for sure, going up would be pointless. Very impressed with Westmeath who dominated all over the field, beat us in the air and the dirty ball. Better movement and when they played against the breeze they worked the ball up the field intelligently and some great finishing. The two point deficit was flattering to our lads.
Stay in this group and try and improve.
Couldn't make it as I was doing a challenge game, were Westmeath physically stronger than us?

The fielding of high ball or not winning dirty second phase ball is not helping.. have we as coaches come away from those basic techniques?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on February 18, 2019, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 18, 2019, 01:16:05 PM
That's our level for sure, going up would be pointless. Very impressed with Westmeath who dominated all over the field, beat us in the air and the dirty ball. Better movement and when they played against the breeze they worked the ball up the field intelligently and some great finishing. The two point deficit was flattering to our lads.
Stay in this group and try and improve.

I thought when we played hurling intelligently in the first half we looked the much better side - moved the ball fast and accurately. In the second half we reverted to lashing the ball 80 yards from the puck-out in the hope we would win it under the high ball - don't think we won a single puck-out in the second half. If we had persisted with the style of play from the first half we would have gained the victory. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 18, 2019, 06:51:37 PM
Poor display yesterday. Last 10 minutes of the first half were costly after a decent enough start. Lack of ball winners in the forward line was a big problem and lumping balls down on top of their full back was madness.

I couldn't understand waiting til the 48th minute to bring McManus & Campbell on a couple of minutes later. Crazy in my opinion. Galway started 2 Oranmore players yesterday & our match was a must win compared to Galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 18, 2019, 09:49:13 PM
Group 1
Cushendall
Dunloy
Preliminary Winner

Group 2
Loughgiel
St John's
St Galls
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on February 18, 2019, 11:38:52 PM
Hard to see anything other than the same semi finalists from last year. Even rossa really sorted themselves out would still be a big ask.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 19, 2019, 08:33:05 AM
I really wish they would just have knockout games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 19, 2019, 08:44:21 AM
i really hate these group games. they would of been better sticking with a knock out system instead of dragging things out for even longer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2019, 10:03:38 AM
There should be (in my view) 3 teams into the semi, 3 from these 4, Loughgiel, Dunloy, St Johns and Cushendall... the other teams play off to get an opportunity to play a quarter final against one of the four above.. so that would be Rossa, St Galls, Ballycastle playing each other to see who'd win that group. the winners play a team who drew te short straw as such to have a quater final..

Thats giving the lesser teams a extra 2 games or possibly more depending how they fair. to link it to the league it could mean that the top 3 are straight into the semi finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on February 19, 2019, 10:08:33 AM
Any word on league fixtures?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 24, 2019, 07:37:06 AM
Was in the Broken Jug in Ballina last night for 10 minutes, saw an Antrim man wolfing down food at the bar  :D. One of you guys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 24, 2019, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 24, 2019, 07:37:06 AM
Was in the Broken Jug in Ballina last night for 10 minutes, saw an Antrim man wolfing down food at the bar  :D. One of you guys?

Wasn't me, that sounds like someone with a county board expenses account.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2019, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 24, 2019, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 24, 2019, 07:37:06 AM
Was in the Broken Jug in Ballina last night for 10 minutes, saw an Antrim man wolfing down food at the bar  :D. One of you guys?

Wasn't me, that sounds like someone with a county board expenses account.

Now now!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 01, 2019, 09:52:34 AM
all the fixtures are now out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CentreHalfBack on March 01, 2019, 01:20:52 PM
Just looked at the fixtures.

No relegation from div3 last year? LD and Glenarm didn't win to many games last year from what I remember.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: thedog 83 on March 02, 2019, 12:38:03 AM
No relegations from any divisions for 2019. Due to reshaping of leagues. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sheugh Water on March 05, 2019, 06:28:12 PM
Anyone know when underage fixtures are out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on March 07, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
i hear that the senior team are going to Portugal for 4 days before JMCD campaign, this must be what the golf day is funding  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2019, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: belfastsaff on March 07, 2019, 01:33:41 PM
i hear that the senior team are going to Portugal for 4 days before JMCD campaign, this must be what the golf day is funding  :-X

Don't let Spike know about that, as apparently we can't afford sandwiches
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on March 07, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
Now - if only the footballers could go away on a wee break, things would soon pick up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on March 10, 2019, 06:48:48 PM
The cycling is terrific in Portugal I'm told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 10, 2019, 07:08:55 PM
Would Antrim be worth backing at 11/2, in the Joe mcdonagh cup. Laois are favs with pp. Surely Antrim are capable of beating laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on March 10, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
Quote from: ardtole on March 10, 2019, 07:08:55 PM
Would Antrim be worth backing at 11/2, in the Joe mcdonagh cup. Laois are favs with pp. Surely Antrim are capable of beating laois.

We could win every game or lose every game. Very unpredictable. Not much between all the teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on March 10, 2019, 07:48:52 PM
I was thinking the same, Antrim are the outsiders, last out of 5 teams. I think 11/2 is good value, laois are 9/4(I think) favs. Was there trouble in the camp in Portugal? Might change my mind on backing Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2019, 08:47:27 PM
Hmm I wish I were that optimistic. It'll be a big battle. I'd settle for a couple of wins!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 11, 2019, 08:03:41 AM
Here's the Joe McDonagh fixture list and dates (copied from the Laois page)

Wouldn't be too confident that Antrim would do well in this.

Any betting man would be advised to keep their money in their pocket if they're thinking of throwing a few bob in Antrim unless its to be involved in a relegation play off.
Westmeath, Laois and Kerry have turned Antrim over last season and the BIFFOS are an unknown quantity especially after their relegation to Div 2A and the Joe McDonagh.

11-12 May 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 1
Uíbh Fhailí v Laois
Aontroim v Ciarraí

An Iarmhí Bye

18-19 May 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 2
Laois v Aontroim
An Iarmhí v Uíbh Fhailí

Ciarraí Bye

25-26 May 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 3A
An Iarmhí v Ciarraí

Laois, Uíbh Fhailí & Aontroim Bye

01-02 June 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 3B
Uíbh Fhailí v Aontroim

Laois, An Iarmhí & Ciarraí Bye

08-09 June 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 4
Aontroim v An Iarmhí
Ciarraí v Laois

Uíbh Fhailí Bye

15-16 June 2019 (Sat/Sun)
Round 5
Laois v An Iarmhí
Ciarraí v Uíbh Fhailí

Aontroim Bye

30 June 2019 (Sun)
Final
1st Placed Team v 2nd Placed Team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 11, 2019, 06:40:23 PM
Laois away gonna be tuff, Eddie Brennan has them going well. First match v Kerry is in Dunloy from what I hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2019, 09:33:22 PM
Kerry looked decent against Westmeath too and looked unlucky enough. No easy games in this at all and I would be very, pleasantly!, surprised were we to get near winning it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 12, 2019, 01:05:16 PM
agreed. Its a very strong competition now when you look at all the teams in it.

Though id say the coverage given to it will be the bare minimum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2019, 07:06:34 PM
Leagues start this weekend! Pretty soon! Hopefully the weather continues to be decent
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 21, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
the reserve leagues a bit light this year i see. At a time when we want to give young lads games after they leave minor theres going to be periods of nothing for them at all. Pity to see that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on March 21, 2019, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
the reserve leagues a bit light this year i see. At a time when we want to give young lads games after they leave minor theres going to be periods of nothing for them at all. Pity to see that.

Is the North Antrim league running this year? i think South Antrim are running Hurling this year, maybe some SA teams playing in it instead as its a Monday night and means lads that dont get a run in the senior game or only 10-15 mins can then play a full reserve game on the monday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 21, 2019, 09:14:01 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
the reserve leagues a bit light this year i see. At a time when we want to give young lads games after they leave minor theres going to be periods of nothing for them at all. Pity to see that.

We'd hoped to put in a reserve team but then 5 lads took off to Australia for the year (all first 15'ers) so that left us short and couldn't commit to a reserve team, but when/if they arrive back and exams are out of the way we might try to arrange reserve "friendlies" prior to senior games when the numbers allow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2019, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 21, 2019, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
the reserve leagues a bit light this year i see. At a time when we want to give young lads games after they leave minor theres going to be periods of nothing for them at all. Pity to see that.

Is the North Antrim league running this year? i think South Antrim are running Hurling this year, maybe some SA teams playing in it instead as its a Monday night and means lads that dont get a run in the senior game or only 10-15 mins can then play a full reserve game on the monday night.

North Antrim league runs every year. Usually a competitive enough competition yo.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2019, 01:48:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2019, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on March 21, 2019, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 21, 2019, 08:33:43 AM
the reserve leagues a bit light this year i see. At a time when we want to give young lads games after they leave minor theres going to be periods of nothing for them at all. Pity to see that.

Is the North Antrim league running this year? i think South Antrim are running Hurling this year, maybe some SA teams playing in it instead as its a Monday night and means lads that dont get a run in the senior game or only 10-15 mins can then play a full reserve game on the monday night.

North Antrim league runs every year. Usually a competitive enough competition yo.

The Z'ds do well, and for years the south antrim league ran pretty well. When  the Johnnies Rossa ourselves Sarsfields st pauls and the rest join in its a very good South Antrim leauge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 21, 2019, 02:12:42 PM
The half paced hurling seems to be well run and organised..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2019, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 21, 2019, 02:12:42 PM
The half paced hurling seems to be well run and organised..

I'm too competitive for that malarkey!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on March 22, 2019, 05:11:35 AM
Would be good if the fixture of the week was set for an evening throw in like what happened a few times last year. Would be great to go watch the game of the week (Cushendall v Loughgiel this week) after playing in my own game on a Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 22, 2019, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on March 22, 2019, 05:11:35 AM
Would be good if the fixture of the week was set for an evening throw in like what happened a few times last year. Would be great to go watch the game of the week (Cushendall v Loughgiel this week) after playing in my own game on a Sunday

I was saying this the other day to a mate. Im for our game on sunday at Rossa and its a pity that the Lgiel v Cdall game isnt on later so you could get to see it as well.

Be nice if their was a feature game on a sat afternoon for example that could draw a big crowd to it for the neutral then the rest of the games on a sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2019, 11:34:52 PM
Good win for St Endas tonight, Mark Donaghy the ex C'Dall player a boost for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 23, 2019, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 22, 2019, 11:34:52 PM
Good win for St Endas tonight, Mark Donaghy the ex C'Dall player a boost for them.

Endas missing a few also, looking at team sheet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:19:49 PM
Big win for loughgiel. Actually ended up at portaferry ballycran game as I was in that neck of the woods. Some dodgy reffing ;) but deserved win for portaferry.  Be interested to see the cushendall and loughgiel line ups. Most results went as expected looking on the county web site.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2019, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:19:49 PM
Big win for loughgiel. Actually ended up at portaferry ballycran game as I was in that neck of the woods. Some dodgy reffing ;) but deserved win for portaferry.  Be interested to see the cushendall and loughgiel line ups. Most results went as expected looking on the county web site.

Local derby first match of season, best team won.. ref pulled calf abou ten to go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:40:10 PM
It was an alright game but conditions rough enough which spoiled it a bit. Yeah best team won. Didn't notice the ref pulling up lol. Ballycran boy at start of second half looked to pick up a bad injury and didn't look like anyone near him either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2019, 07:56:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:40:10 PM
It was an alright game but conditions rough enough which spoiled it a bit. Yeah best team won. Didn't notice the ref pulling up lol. Ballycran boy at start of second half looked to pick up a bad injury and didn't look like anyone near him either.

Sticky pitch which doesn't help, he was in pain though, to be fair to Crans they had a very physio on board.

I'm on the roller now, getting ready for the football next week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 24, 2019, 07:58:18 PM
16 of 19 points for mcnaughton! Two strong teams out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 25, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
tough enough game yday for ourselves at Rossa. i thought we were good for the win but at the same time Rossa stuck with us until the last 5/10 mins of the game.

Didnt know the ref from our game but he was pretty decent and let the game go for the hour. Lots of physical tackles that didnt go over board and he let the game flow.

McGuiness had a good game yday for Rossa and the same as young murphy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 25, 2019, 10:20:57 PM
Sad news coming out of Cushendall tonight that Tommy Campbell, father of county hurler Eoghan and also county vice chairman passed away this evening.

RIP.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on March 26, 2019, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 25, 2019, 10:20:57 PM
Sad news coming out of Cushendall tonight that Tommy Campbell, father of county hurler Eoghan and also county vice chairman passed away this evening.

RIP.

Although they knew it wasn't looking good it still seems very sudden, RIP Tommy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
Awful news.. RIP Tommy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 07, 2019, 04:31:25 PM
Big win for Dunloy over St. John's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on April 07, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Was enjoyable match but Wouldn't have expected anything else.  Taking players from other clubs and hoping they gel really only works for Pepp.   :) imo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 07, 2019, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: old timers on April 07, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Was enjoyable match but Wouldn't have expected anything else.  Taking players from other clubs and hoping they gel really only works for Pepp.   :) imo

What other clubs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on April 07, 2019, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: old timers on April 07, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Was enjoyable match but Wouldn't have expected anything else.  Taking players from other clubs and hoping they gel really only works for Pepp.   :) imo
LOL ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 08, 2019, 08:35:10 AM
thought we were well in control sunday in our game from the start. looked comfortable all over the pitch and took the goals at vital times.

both sides guilty of shooting bad wides but its only the second game of the season. still it was a good game to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 08, 2019, 07:47:03 PM
After two rounds of fixtures who would people fancy for promotion/relegation is each division? Id take a punt at the following:

Div 1:
Lougheil/Dunloy
Balgalget/st galls

Div 2:
Sarsfields/st endas
Dungannon/armoy

Div 3:
Gort/cushendun
Cuchulainn/ na magha

Div 4:
Glenravel/colum cille

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: SillyAsFaugh on April 14, 2019, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 08, 2019, 07:47:03 PM
After two rounds of fixtures who would people fancy for promotion/relegation is each division? Id take a punt at the following:

Div 1:
Lougheil/Dunloy
Balgalget/st galls

Div 2:
Sarsfields/st endas
Dungannon/armoy

Div 3:
Gort/cushendun
Cuchulainn/ na magha

Div 4:
Glenravel/colum cille

What division can Loughgeil/Dunloy get promoted to?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
Are the leagues not fixed for this season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 15, 2019, 07:04:49 PM
Antrim hurling league (Premier Division).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 15, 2019, 08:55:14 PM
Thought it would've been self explanatory i was suggesting lougheil/dunloy as league winners.
..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 19, 2019, 09:07:28 AM
a lot of good games this weekend in the league.

Ballycran v st johns looks to be a tight game. be hard to call that one.
Rossa v St Galls - home side should win this with a bit to spare
Portaferry v Ballygalget - again the home side should win this esp after a good win v Lgiel in the last game
Ballycastle v Lgiel - always good games between these pair tho i would think Lgiel will win by 7/10 points.
Dunloy v Cdall -  this will be a good game. looking forward to this game Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 19, 2019, 03:21:55 PM
Should be a good weeekend, bit of good weather always helps too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2019, 01:19:03 PM
Not much chat about the league so far!

It was very blustery where we were on Sat and Sun, so I'd say there was some breeze at Pairc MacUilin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Dunloy early front runners but not that big a surprise I think. St Endas looks to be the team to beat in 2.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2019, 04:41:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Dunloy early front runners but not that big a surprise I think. St Endas looks to be the team to beat in 2.
Enda's posting some decent scores but you could argue they haven't played anyone decent yet. Still expect them to remain in the mix though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2019, 11:34:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 23, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Dunloy early front runners but not that big a surprise I think. St Endas looks to be the team to beat in 2.

thought we played well on sunday, much better than the St Johns game to be honest.

that being said Cdall have barely trained since the all Ireland run and will be a much different team to play against when it really counts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 24, 2019, 02:04:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting
What are you poking the fire for?? ;D ;D Wouldn't say bad blood, any of our recent games have had all the menace of a toothless dog, plenty of snarl but no real bite. The change at the helm will have calmed them down a bit hopefully. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 24, 2019, 09:04:00 PM
What happened to the Ballycastle social media coverage? Used to be one of the best accounts in the County, looks like they handed the reigns to a 16 year old at the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 24, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
It's been like that for a few weeks now. It's embarrassing reading it now. I like a bit of banter from now and then on a social media account but it's every post and they are taking the piss out of individuals. It's like a kid has been given it.

I was wanting to follow the game at the weekend against lgiel but quickly realised the account wasn't going to doing anything other than post shite.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on April 24, 2019, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
It's been like that for a few weeks now. It's embarrassing reading it now. I like a bit of banter from now and then on a social media account but it's every post and they are taking the piss out of individuals. It's like a kid has been given it.

I was wanting to follow the game at the weekend against lgiel but quickly realised the account wasn't going to doing anything other than post shite.

Couldn't make the match so like you had a scan of Twitter for the score and couldn't believe some of the stuff I was reading. Maybe I'm out of touch with the modern 'banter' but like you just found it embarrassing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on April 25, 2019, 12:11:12 PM
Massive exaggeration there. Nothing to gain by posting this nonsense

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 25, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: breakingball on April 25, 2019, 12:11:12 PM
Massive exaggeration there. Nothing to gain by posting this nonsense

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting
Wouldn't worry about it lad. Hardly anybody reads this stuff anymore. Pretty sure we don't see it that way, it's the 3rd match of the season after all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 25, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on April 24, 2019, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on April 24, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
It's been like that for a few weeks now. It's embarrassing reading it now. I like a bit of banter from now and then on a social media account but it's every post and they are taking the piss out of individuals. It's like a kid has been given it.

I was wanting to follow the game at the weekend against lgiel but quickly realised the account wasn't going to doing anything other than post shite.

Couldn't make the match so like you had a scan of Twitter for the score and couldn't believe some of the stuff I was reading. Maybe I'm out of touch with the modern 'banter' but like you just found it embarrassing.

No it is just cringeworthy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting

Hopefully we get a decent ref for the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2019, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting

Hopefully we get a decent ref for the game.

County struggling with refs, so more the merrier please.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 25, 2019, 11:06:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2019, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 25, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: saffman on April 24, 2019, 10:47:12 AM
St Endas V Sarsfields next weekend should be a good game, come the end of the season if fancy these two for the top positions

A lot of bad blood between these two teams lately, should be interesting

Hopefully we get a decent ref for the game.

County struggling with refs, so more the merrier please.

I'm on duty on both Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2019, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: Mcquillans supporter on April 29, 2019, 01:25:59 PM
What's the story with referees not showing up this season , been too watch Ballycastle minors a few times this season and already have 2/3 referees not showing up for the games so the club referee has to do it . Fair play to the man for doing it . Some nice hurlers in the Ballycastle minor team tho some of the fellas that left will be a big loss to them . Seamy Mcauley great wee hurler and Cormac Donnelly is solid , had a great wee keeper but they have moved him into the forwards and think they have found a real natural forward in the games that I have watched him in .

Thats as nearly as bad as both teams not turning up and the referee is there! happened on a few occasions this year already.

On your point, there is not enough referees I think, you could be out 5/6 days a week as a referee if you can fit that into your work/home life. plus last week was Easter week and there might not have been as many ref's available.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 29, 2019, 04:41:46 PM
I remember being sent from Belfast up to Glenravel to do a match one 13th July, of all days & i was the only bugger there. Similar thing happened when I became an assessor too. The county plays fast & loose with your leisure time & couldn't give a damn about inconveniencing you. Result - I am no longer involved. I would suspect that I am not the only 1 that it happened to & it used to piss me off no end that nobody could be bothered to phone you when a match had been cancelled to tell you not to turn up. Then they sit & wonder why nobody can be arsed anymore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Derry to Feystown is dedication. No wonder people can't be arsed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on April 30, 2019, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Derry to Feystown is dedication. No wonder people can't be arsed.
Should make it mandatory for club secs to copy referee coordinator in any correspondence regarding  refixes, or else it's seen as a no show and a fine. Problem solved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 30, 2019, 10:37:42 AM
ive a lot of respect for any man or woman who wants to be a ref. i did it a few times and its bloody hard work and you really cant see everything that goes on during the game and your own lot give you more abuse that the other team do! lol

i always make a point of shaking a refs hand at the end of the game and apologise if i was giving off to him during it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 30, 2019, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 30, 2019, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Derry to Feystown is dedication. No wonder people can't be arsed.
Should make it mandatory for club secs to copy referee coordinator in any correspondence regarding  refixes, or else it's seen as a no show and a fine. Problem solved.

Fixtures secretary normally has to give consent to both clubs refixing a game and they inform the referee.

Servasport irons out a lot of these issues as I think it automatically updates referees, if the fixtures secretary updates it.
MR2 will know for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2019, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2019, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 30, 2019, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Derry to Feystown is dedication. No wonder people can't be arsed.
Should make it mandatory for club secs to copy referee coordinator in any correspondence regarding  refixes, or else it's seen as a no show and a fine. Problem solved.

Fixtures secretary normally has to give consent to both clubs refixing a game and they inform the referee.

Servasport irons out a lot of these issues as I think it automatically updates referees, if the fixtures secretary updates it.
MR2 will know for sure.

Both main men who do arrange the referees do tremendous stuff and have (IMO) a great balance of referees but if the clubs CCC arange something and don't inform the referee committee then it falls down right there.. I'm very wary of some fixtures now, and I usually call ahead or ask a clubman if I have a number and get confirmation.

Have done this and its worked out for me, but Ive been caught out a few times,  notably for me last year was an under 21 championship hurling match, at no point would i have thought the game was off as the team who beat our club were playing Dunloy in the next round! Heads to Dunloy, game off, both teams knew at 2pm that day!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2019, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2019, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on April 30, 2019, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2019, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 29, 2019, 08:41:12 PM
I remember heading to Falls park one night to ref a game, beautiful Sunday evening it was. Nobody there at all. Both teams had contacted the county but the county didn't bother to tell me, went to Feystown straight from work in Derry City on a Friday night, same story.

I admire lads who give up their time to ref our games and officiate in any capacity like umpire.
Derry to Feystown is dedication. No wonder people can't be arsed.
Should make it mandatory for club secs to copy referee coordinator in any correspondence regarding  refixes, or else it's seen as a no show and a fine. Problem solved.

Fixtures secretary normally has to give consent to both clubs refixing a game and they inform the referee.

Servasport irons out a lot of these issues as I think it automatically updates referees, if the fixtures secretary updates it.
MR2 will know for sure.

Both main men who do arrange the referees do tremendous stuff and have (IMO) a great balance of referees but if the clubs CCC arange something and don't inform the referee committee then it falls down right there.. I'm very wary of some fixtures now, and I usually call ahead or ask a clubman if I have a number and get confirmation.

Have done this and its worked out for me, but Ive been caught out a few times,  notably for me last year was an under 21 championship hurling match, at no point would i have thought the game was off as the team who beat our club were playing Dunloy in the next round! Heads to Dunloy, game off, both teams knew at 2pm that day!
That's poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 30, 2019, 02:05:21 PM
It's poor alright, but you can see it's a common problem. When I was getting match appointments sent to my phone, I never once got a postponement notification, so that doesn't  work. I also remember traipsing down to Ballygalget one Saturday afternoon, only for a certain West Belfast side not to tbother to turn up. They subsequently suggested that I might like to put in a teamsheet for them, to avoid a no show fine. As in "you wasted a large part of my weekend, so you can piss away off".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
No one is selling this ref lark too well  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 30, 2019, 04:49:20 PM
Doesn't look like it! Oh & did I mention the good old telephone calls to your home number on a Sunday night, when the county used to rather stupidly put those details on its website, to "discuss" what was going into your match report & which turned pretty abusive, if you didn't give them the answer they wanted? Refereeing isn't all fun, you know!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
No one is selling this ref lark too well  ;D

Look I've been doing it over 10 years now, it's not bad at all, the automated messages, regular updates,referee WhatsApps, fitness rules test, assessments and good structure, it's a hell of a lot better than it was. But I'm certainly noticing gurning more and more, even creeping into the manly sport of hurling.


If a keeper makes a mistake it's magnified as it will/could cost a goal, the players will rally round him and encourage him, a referee is human also but will get torrid abuse the whole match, if a player feels he didn't get a 'foul' . It's a bizarre 'job' but being involved in these games is good. On games alone in a week I could maybe run 24 Km, that's without doing my own training, if anything it keeps you fit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on May 01, 2019, 12:56:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
No one is selling this ref lark too well  ;D

Look I've been doing it over 10 years now, it's not bad at all, the automated messages, regular updates,referee WhatsApps, fitness rules test, assessments and good structure, it's a hell of a lot better than it was. But I'm certainly noticing gurning more and more, even creeping into the manly sport of hurling.


If a keeper makes a mistake it's magnified as it will/could cost a goal, the players will rally round him and encourage him, a referee is human also but will get torrid abuse the whole match, if a player feels he didn't get a 'foul' . It's a bizarre 'job' but being involved in these games is good. On games alone in a week I could maybe run 24 Km, that's without doing my own training, if anything it keeps you fit.


Start a Referees Appriciation Thread...

Motto;  L'essence du bénévolat, c'est la gratitude.

There would appear to be plenty of forumites for it...

To get you guys started, some discussion topics;
Condemnation is not justified, unless self-inflicted
Match 'fee' for volunteering, the only man on the pitch getting tax free coin
Travel expenses tax deductible
'Mileage' per game
Sycophancy of the 2 main men...

Ps
Selling the lark; the morer the labourer, the lesser the wage...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 01, 2019, 08:41:31 AM
to be honest the way rugby has went with the 100% respect towards a ref to me is the only way forward and it has to come from the side lines as well.

thats where i feel it starts to fester during a game if the management is shouting at a ref the players follow suit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2019, 08:55:46 AM
That'll never happen unless ref takes zero tolerance and has the ability to be backed by all involved.

Players seem to forget that the ref has been a player a coach a supporter and GAA man, he understands the frustration as much as the next guy. The wild accusations of being a cheat and not knowing the rules and so on is wrong and unhelpful to encourage new refs!

It's getting worse and to the point were we won't have enough refs to do our games, I wonder who'll they'll blame then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 01, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Sure all refs are cheats and are blind.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 02, 2019, 08:41:16 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2019, 08:55:46 AM
That'll never happen unless ref takes zero tolerance and has the ability to be backed by all involved.

Players seem to forget that the ref has been a player a coach a supporter and GAA man, he understands the frustration as much as the next guy. The wild accusations of being a cheat and not knowing the rules and so on is wrong and unhelpful to encourage new refs!

It's getting worse and to the point were we won't have enough refs to do our games, I wonder who'll they'll blame then

It'll be the usual "someone" because Someone should do something about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on May 06, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
No major upsets over the weekend.

Portaferry & Dunloy still going strong at the top. Relegation could well turn out to be an interesting one for div 1.
Sarsfields turning over st endas easier than im sure most expected, Creggan also going strong in Div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 07, 2019, 12:47:27 AM
Big weekend for our senior hurlers as the Joe McDonagh throws in. Need to make our two home games count in what is a difficult competition as the fine margins will decide wether we challenge or fight relegation. Should be a hard fought game against Kerry but one I'm confident we can get the win. Antrim by 4 for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 07, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: saffman on May 06, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
No major upsets over the weekend.

Portaferry & Dunloy still going strong at the top. Relegation could well turn out to be an interesting one for div 1.
Sarsfields turning over st endas easier than im sure most expected, Creggan also going strong in Div 2.

Dunloy schooled our lads today and opened up a big lead with a strong wind. Our lads seem to think marking a man and tracking his run is a thing of the past....
Put up a better showing in the second but the game was over.

Referee must have run the marathon as he didn't do much during the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2019, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: saffman on May 06, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
No major upsets over the weekend.

Portaferry & Dunloy still going strong at the top. Relegation could well turn out to be an interesting one for div 1.
Sarsfields turning over st endas easier than im sure most expected, Creggan also going strong in Div 2.

Dunloy schooled our lads today and opened up a big lead with a strong wind. Our lads seem to think marking a man and tracking his run is a thing of the past....
Put up a better showing in the second but the game was over.

Referee must have run the marathon as he didn't do much during the game.

Think he had a long weekend of activities that must have drained his normal super energy levels
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 07, 2019, 10:47:04 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2019, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2019, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: saffman on May 06, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
No major upsets over the weekend.

Portaferry & Dunloy still going strong at the top. Relegation could well turn out to be an interesting one for div 1.
Sarsfields turning over st endas easier than im sure most expected, Creggan also going strong in Div 2.

Dunloy schooled our lads today and opened up a big lead with a strong wind. Our lads seem to think marking a man and tracking his run is a thing of the past....
Put up a better showing in the second but the game was over.

Referee must have run the marathon as he didn't do much during the game.

Think he had a long weekend of activities that must have drained his normal super energy levels

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 10, 2019, 01:00:55 PM
Team named for Kerry game

1. Ryan Elliott
2. Stephen Rooney
3. John Dillon
4. Phelim Duffin
5. Paddy Burke
6. Conor Boyd
7. Matthew Donnelly
8. Neil McManus
9. Nicky McKeague
10. James McNaughton
11. Ryan McCambridge
12. Keelan Molloy
13. Ciaran Clarke
14. Conor McCann
15. Eoin O'Neill

Subs
16. Eoin Gillian
17. David Kearney
18. Nigel Elliott
19. Martin Burke
20. Joe Maskey
21. Daniel McCloskey
22. Kevin Rice
23. Conor McHugh
24. Ronan Molloy
25. Sean Duffin
26. James O'Connell

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2019, 06:32:50 PM
Antrim 3-15 Kerry 0-12. Kerry down to 14.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2019, 06:48:30 PM
Won 3-19 to 0-14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on May 11, 2019, 06:48:30 PM
Won 3-19 to 0-14

Great turnaround from last year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 11, 2019, 08:13:22 PM
Well done to the lads and management
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 12, 2019, 10:06:06 AM
Big victory. Onwards to the next one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 12, 2019, 11:10:31 AM
Great win. Very important to get a good start in this tournament as it is so tight and every game is massive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 13, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
decent performance from Antrim on sat. Bit of a slow start to let them go up 0-03 in no time at all but once we settled we defended well and forced them to shoot from range in the first half.

thought that Conor Boyd was very good, read the game well and made a lot of good interceptions. a fine hours hurling for him. Rocky was like a wall in there at full back.

Tough game away to Laois now. they had a good win over offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on May 14, 2019, 01:46:28 AM
Great win to start off the Joe McDonagh campaign. Took the first 10 minutes to figure out the defensive style and set up of the Kerry team from there on there was only going to be one winner. Dillon and Boyd were 2 rocks in defensive Mattie Donnelly caught and clearer some ball. Neil stepped up and showed his class when needed and took over frees from young McNaughton who was unusually poor for his own high standard. Keelan Molloy I thought had a super game. Good start and good for the confidence heading to Portlaoise for a really tough game against a Laois side who we always seem to struggle against and who hit Offaly for 4-22 whilst hitting 17 wides as well. If we can defend as well as we did against Kerry I've no doubt the lads will be heading back up the road with another 2 points.
Saffs Abu
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 20, 2019, 08:43:46 AM
we got out of jail yesterday big style! 2 goals in the last min of the game won the game for us when, to be honest, we didnt look to deserve to win it.

we were missing 9 starting players which doesnt help any team but at the same time they did dig out the result at the end up which was pleasing.

st galls got a good result away to cushendall i see there this morning.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Anyone at the Laois game? Hearing rave reports about their goalie but more to the point saves apart were we challenging them or were they too strong for us? Difficult competition and to be honest we're possibly at the lower end of the standard here so it was very important to beat Kerry. Not sure what to expect from Offaly game but Westmeath will be a big challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Anyone at the Laois game? Hearing rave reports about their goalie but more to the point saves apart were we challenging them or were they too strong for us? Difficult competition and to be honest we're possibly at the lower end of the standard here so it was very important to beat Kerry. Not sure what to expect from Offaly game but Westmeath will be a big challenge.

Their goalie had an outstanding game, we had five goal chances in the second half but in reality more clinical finishes would have buried three of them and we missed three or four  scoreable frees, plus the penalty missed in first half.  Laois where way better than us all the same as they had less forced errors, better movement and more threatening forwards. Their number 12 played at FF and gave rocky a serious time with his movement and always first to the ball. Their other forwards made great space for him.
Truth be told it was all over at half time only Brennan emptied his bench and it could have back fired  if we took our chances but we didn't.

Over all it looked like what it was a div1 team giving a div2 team a lesson

On our match v ballycran yesterday, the next time an ATM gets hit they might lift our forwards because that was Daylight Robbery in the last minute 😂😂😂
Maybe karma for they done a Feirce yapping about wides and frees and stuff, still felt sorry for them (sort of).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 20, 2019, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Anyone at the Laois game? Hearing rave reports about their goalie but more to the point saves apart were we challenging them or were they too strong for us? Difficult competition and to be honest we're possibly at the lower end of the standard here so it was very important to beat Kerry. Not sure what to expect from Offaly game but Westmeath will be a big challenge.

Their goalie had an outstanding game, we had five goal chances in the second half but in reality more clinical finishes would have buried three of them and we missed three or four  scoreable frees, plus the penalty missed in first half.  Laois where way better than us all the same as they had less forced errors, better movement and more threatening forwards. Their number 12 played at FF and gave rocky a serious time with his movement and always first to the ball. Their other forwards made great space for him.
Truth be told it was all over at half time only Brennan emptied his bench and it could have back fired  if we took our chances but we didn't.

Over all it looked like what it was a div1 team giving a div2 team a lesson

On our match v ballycran yesterday, the next time an ATM gets hit they might lift our forwards because that was Daylight Robbery in the last minute 😂😂😂
Maybe karma for they done a Feirce yapping about wides and frees and stuff, still felt sorry for them (sort of).

total robbery that result lol we should of been beat and in truth deserved to be beat. But fair play to the lads they dug out a result when it didnt look possible. the young lads that stepped up from the reserves did the job when needed which was good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Anyone at the Laois game? Hearing rave reports about their goalie but more to the point saves apart were we challenging them or were they too strong for us? Difficult competition and to be honest we're possibly at the lower end of the standard here so it was very important to beat Kerry. Not sure what to expect from Offaly game but Westmeath will be a big challenge.

Their goalie had an outstanding game, we had five goal chances in the second half but in reality more clinical finishes would have buried three of them and we missed three or four  scoreable frees, plus the penalty missed in first half.  Laois where way better than us all the same as they had less forced errors, better movement and more threatening forwards. Their number 12 played at FF and gave rocky a serious time with his movement and always first to the ball. Their other forwards made great space for him.
Truth be told it was all over at half time only Brennan emptied his bench and it could have back fired  if we took our chances but we didn't.

Over all it looked like what it was a div1 team giving a div2 team a lesson

On our match v ballycran yesterday, the next time an ATM gets hit they might lift our forwards because that was Daylight Robbery in the last minute 😂😂😂
Maybe karma for they done a Feirce yapping about wides and frees and stuff, still felt sorry for them (sort of).

Cheers - on the antrim front what I expected to but didn't want to hear lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 22, 2019, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 20, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Anyone at the Laois game? Hearing rave reports about their goalie but more to the point saves apart were we challenging them or were they too strong for us? Difficult competition and to be honest we're possibly at the lower end of the standard here so it was very important to beat Kerry. Not sure what to expect from Offaly game but Westmeath will be a big challenge.

Their goalie had an outstanding game, we had five goal chances in the second half but in reality more clinical finishes would have buried three of them and we missed three or four  scoreable frees, plus the penalty missed in first half.  Laois where way better than us all the same as they had less forced errors, better movement and more threatening forwards. Their number 12 played at FF and gave rocky a serious time with his movement and always first to the ball. Their other forwards made great space for him.
Truth be told it was all over at half time only Brennan emptied his bench and it could have back fired  if we took our chances but we didn't.

Over all it looked like what it was a div1 team giving a div2 team a lesson

On our match v ballycran yesterday, the next time an ATM gets hit they might lift our forwards because that was Daylight Robbery in the last minute 😂😂😂
Maybe karma for they done a Feirce yapping about wides and frees and stuff, still felt sorry for them (sort of).

Careful now or Owen Elliott will be getting a letter from them about how hard done by they are.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2019, 09:31:48 PM
Couple of tight ones in the league tonight. Ballycastle game, according to Twitter, had a load of goals towards the end with Ballycastle holding out. St. John's portaferry close enough too with St. John's winning in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2019, 10:04:11 PM
Just home from LG. Scrappy game with lots of whistle blowing. Free takers busiest players on the pitch. Good result but it was never comfortable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 23, 2019, 11:38:27 AM
the free county was ridiculous at the end of the game. Coby and James scored 17 points between them from frees during the game for both sides

far too many things blown up that should of been let go. the game wasnt dirty at all, rather it was a tough game between two sides wanting to compete.

Not a great game to watch but you rarely get an easy game against Loughgiel so any win in their own ground is a good result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on May 23, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Bit like cushendall match against Rossa.  The Dall gave away so many frees especially in first half and second wasnt too much better until Rossa went down a man.  Something doesn't seem Right with the Dall this year.  Given Rossa had so many starters missing the Dall were lucky
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 23, 2019, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: old timers on May 23, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Bit like cushendall match against Rossa.  The Dall gave away so many frees especially in first half and second wasnt too much better until Rossa went down a man.  Something doesn't seem Right with the Dall this year.  Given Rossa had so many starters missing the Dall were lucky

It's cushendall we are talking about here. They hibernate to July then they wake up for championship, always have done. Still placed quite rightly so as favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2019, 04:41:18 PM
Be very surprised if dunloy don't win it this year. (non cushendall person).

I did say that last year but suspect they will have learned from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2019, 07:53:39 PM
Going by the team sheets C'Dall were missing a brave few. I'd say there wasn't much sleep lost about beating Rossa by a few points. It'll be a Dall or Dunloy victory again this year. Has Sean Delargy packed it in?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 24, 2019, 10:11:12 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2019, 07:53:39 PM
Going by the team sheets C'Dall were missing a brave few. I'd say there wasn't much sleep lost about beating Rossa by a few points. It'll be a Dall or Dunloy victory again this year. Has Sean Delargy packed it in?

Hard to see Aaron Graffin back either considering he's just went through a kneecap operation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 01, 2019, 05:56:18 AM
Apparently our match is on GAANOW through the gaa.ie website, not to be confused with be subscription service GAAGO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
Man down within ten mins! Ffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 01, 2019, 04:10:27 PM
Cracking match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2019, 04:44:43 PM
Fair play to those players out today! Amazing result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 01, 2019, 04:50:31 PM
What was Burke sent off for?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2019, 06:06:11 PM
Delighted with that result. That is a tough competition and fair play to all involved. Great result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 01, 2019, 09:26:04 PM
30 years ago, it was Antrim v Offaly in Croke Park in an All Ireland senior hurling semi final. The intervening period hasn't been kind to either county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2019, 09:55:51 AM
unreal result and what a game. Its a long time since ive found myself roaring at the tv at our county seeing them do so well. There might be light at the end of this long tunnel yet folks!

sets up a massive game this weekend in Dunloy. I suspect we might see a big crowd there for this game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 10:00:31 AM
There are some very good hurlers coming through from your club DR who are really starting to complement the experience of the likes of McManus, Donnelly, Clarke etc.

I still think beating Westmeath is a big ask as they seem to be very good these days but we have a chance and great to see some real enthusiasm round the county team again. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 03, 2019, 10:26:24 AM
Westmeath at home with the standard we had in  tullamore is very winnable
The lads must be putting in a fierce amount of work.
Bar Tipp they are the most improved team in the country. You can see a system and structure to their play now that wasn't there last year, we just need some consistency now as we have had good days like Saturday before but didn't back it up next day out.

Come on the Saffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2019, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 03, 2019, 09:55:51 AM
unreal result and what a game. Its a long time since ive found myself roaring at the tv at our county seeing them do so well. There might be light at the end of this long tunnel yet folks!

sets up a massive game this weekend in Dunloy. I suspect we might see a big crowd there for this game!

Was in the car on Sat doing the same, roaring at the radio commentary, which was very biased ! though in fariness at the end they were full of praise for the Antrim lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2019, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 10:00:31 AM
There are some very good hurlers coming through from your club DR who are really starting to complement the experience of the likes of McManus, Donnelly, Clarke etc.

I still think beating Westmeath is a big ask as they seem to be very good these days but we have a chance and great to see some real enthusiasm round the county team again. Looking forward to it.

Have to say ive been very impressed with the lads since they have been with the county. the likes of Phelim Duffin has come on massively as a defender and you can see that now in the club games. Keelan Molloy is a joy to watch now, much the same as James McNaughton. two brilliant young forwards who can only just get better and better.

You can see all of the players have bought into being a county player, the lifestyle, the training etc and also that one thing that was probably missing - the passion and pride in the shirt.

It could be disappointment this weekend but there is the shoots of hope there for the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 01:47:43 PM
Why was McNaughton not starting I wonder?

If he strengthens up a bit he could go on to be as decent as McManus I think.

Yeah I think the county will bring on you guys a lot. I honestly can't see Dunloy being beat this year but then couldn't last year but I think you will have learned from it.

Yep we have hope for Saturday. Massive win and shows you the swings and roundabouts of that competition. Lose and we were in a bad place but win and everyone is on cloud nine with the prospect of finals etc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2019, 02:45:09 PM
im not getting carried away again thinking we are going to win it lol i did that last year and ended up with egg on my face making big boasts of what were were going to do! lol

Id say we are more improved this year than the previous season. the style of hurling is good, its fast moving and the young lads coming into the team now have improved the team.

Ill just keep the fingers crossed at this stage lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
Ha yeah you can never be sure of these things especially with Cushendall and Loughgiel but I guess we'll see.

Your clubmate McTaggart is very excited after saturday lol. he does a great job with those articles as do the rest of the guys at that website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 03, 2019, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
Ha yeah you can never be sure of these things especially with Cushendall and Loughgiel but I guess we'll see.

Your clubmate McTaggart is very excited after saturday lol. he does a great job with those articles as do the rest of the guys at that website.

I wrote Lgiel off last year and they completely out did us on the day. tactically they got it spot on and it worked for them and we didnt perform on the day. thats what makes championship better than any league game and its why i wouldnt dare write off any team at this stage.

St Johns are going well, Cdall are doing what they always do and boil slowly during the league towards the real games.

either way it has the makings of another tight championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 03, 2019, 09:37:35 PM
Just watched the full match on the GAA NOW website- well worth a look if anyone hasn't seen it. The quality our guys produced in the second half was something else. Also need to mention the fitness levels which looked to be step ahead of their opponents on the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2019, 03:49:54 PM
game set for 2pm throw in now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 12:19:22 PM
Going to leave soon as I expect a big crowd, hopefully the rain, if it comes is brief, bookies can't separate the teams so I'm going for a 1 point win for us, providing we finish with 15 men!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 08, 2019, 01:30:25 PM
i see on the gaa website it says the game is on 'gaanow' does that mean it'll be live?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on June 08, 2019, 02:05:09 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 08, 2019, 01:30:25 PM
i see on the gaa website it says the game is on 'gaanow' does that mean it'll be live?

Yes, it's on now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 08, 2019, 02:45:14 PM
Antrim very poor, first touch is dreadful. Westmeath well on top surprised one back in particular isn't taken off. Give up two points when he had possession of the ball. Maybe the breeze in the second half will change the pattern of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on June 08, 2019, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 08, 2019, 02:45:14 PM
Antrim very poor, first touch is dreadful. Westmeath well on top surprised one back in particular isn't taken off. Give up two points when he had possession of the ball. Maybe the breeze in the second half will change the pattern of the game.

Antrim need consistency - one great game V Offaly then poor enough in first half v Westmeath.

Hopefully they'll get back into early in 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 08, 2019, 03:59:42 PM
Unfortunately just not good enough today.  Were we complacent after the last match??  Not sure why Duffin taken off first although it could really have been any of the backs or forwards - especially in 1st half.  The frees kept us in the game. Really disappointing and poor performance all round.  We were on the back of a win but it didn't look like that at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 08, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
The win against let's face it a very poor Offaly team was totally over played, you had head cases like Brendan Crossan talking about 89 again after it. Westmeath was always going to be a much tougher proposition and sadlyso it proved, second best all over the pitch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 08, 2019, 04:48:12 PM
Can we not qualify for final now ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2019, 05:03:54 PM
Well that was depressing.  Beaten by a much better team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on June 08, 2019, 05:05:23 PM
Great to see a big crowd turnout but really disappointing performance.

- WM much more physical - won 95% of breaking ball
- Antrim's first touch was woeful
- High balls into forwards clearly wasn't working - persisted anyway.

Not many positives to take from the game unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 08, 2019, 05:50:40 PM
WM had done their homework on us but did we do any homework on them?  It certainly wasn't only Crossan that was talking about beating Offaly it was a lot of people! Including those in our own camp. Yes beating Offaly was a great victory as is any win in Antrim jersey but to be honest if we had have got beaten today but played reasonably well it would have been a bit easier to take.  Clarke against Offaly was like a superstar and today he was non existent but he most certainly wasn't the only one. It tells it's own story when you look at the scorers.  Mcmanus free taking made his performance look ok but other than that he too didn't perform today.  Playing at home we should have starred. WM were quicker and sharper all over the pitch and that's not about talent. IMO keeping Peden and Gary on was never really going bring about much change - other than who called the shots. They both should have walked away too.  I had hoped different but today just proved me right, I'm sorry to say.  Fair play to them for giving their time and effort and to everyone that does but it was a sideward step IMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 06:44:58 PM
Well that could have went better. We didn't show up and Westmeath were up at least 2 notches to us both physically and stick work wise. Our forwards couldn't win any ball going in, it just wouldn't stick, pitch was fast and wet, but the Westmeath lads had no issues there.

The players went on to the pitch and they'll be the first to admit it wasn't their day, that's the best players we have available and Westmeath were better.

I'd have hoped we would have created some goal chances but we we're muscled out of every ruck, 11 for Westmeath and number 3 were excellent today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on June 08, 2019, 06:49:02 PM
Didn't the Westmeath fb get an all star nomination a few seasons ago. I think he had a standout game v Tipperary that season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on June 08, 2019, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: ardtole on June 08, 2019, 06:49:02 PM
Didn't the Westmeath fb get an all star nomination a few seasons ago. I think he had a standout game v Tipperary that season.

Tommy Doyle????

If so, super full back.

Is Dunloy's pitch not very tight? I thought Antrim's forwards would have wanted more space.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 08, 2019, 08:24:28 PM
Antrim were horsed out of it today by a much bigger and physical Westmeath team who got their game plan right and deserved their victory.

On most occasions when an Antrim player went for the ball or for a catch, there was a couple of Westmeath players hanging off them.

Antrim's first touch was poor as was their decision making.

In the second half with Antrim chasing the game 8-9 points down, Westmeath could afford to keep Antrim at bay by closing off the route to goal.

Whenever Antrim scored Westmeath worked the ball straight up the field and tapped over a score of their own.

The Joe McDonagh is the level Antrim are at and it shows no sign of improving in the near future.

The Gaelfast initiative would appear to be the only program that will yield improvement for Antrim at both codes if everyone buys into it.

However as Gaelfast is 5-10 year plan it appears Antrim are set for several years in the doldrums.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 10:59:46 PM
Quote from: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.

Ok I'll bite, what could have made the difference with what we had? Wh were better and even with the best manager and all players available we'd have still lost, obviously you know different, so expand on you post please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 08, 2019, 11:46:26 PM
Lads, it's a game of hurling. Our lads weren't good enough, we are where we are and that's it.

Thanks for the effort this year fellas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 09, 2019, 12:14:11 AM
Jeez lads we've been through this for donkeys years. Run a decent team close or get a big win and it appears to be an upwards trajectory only to be brought back to earth with a bang. If you look at a 10 year trend you'll probably find that Antrim are at their level despite the short term peaks and troughs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffronbhoy on June 09, 2019, 01:37:54 AM
I think people are being very harsh. Beating Offaly last week did not make us world beaters while losing this week does not make us that bad. The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament where all teams are very equal, we just had a bad day, just like Westmeath had when losing to Kerry. This is the most positive I've been about an Antrim hurling setup in a long time. Some fabulous young players have stepped up this season and are only going to get better. McNaughton and the two Molloys are the best prospects I've seen coming thru In Antrim hurling in quite a while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on June 09, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 10:59:46 PM
Quote from: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.

Ok I'll bite, what could have made the difference with what we had? Wh were better and even with the best manager and all players available we'd have still lost, obviously you know different, so expand on you post please

My interpretation of what old timer is suggesting,  is should the Antrim county board put their resources into recruiting a high profile Davy Fitz, Anthony Daly type manager. Similar to the wexford county boards approach when they hired Davy Fitz and Banty for their Hurlers and footballers.

It could be argued that the wexford Hurlers were on a slippery slope similar to Offaly at present and Davy has steadied the ship and made them competitive without really challenging at the business end of the championship.

The footballers were coming from div 4 and Banty was probably as high profile a manager they were capable of recruiting but he made no impact at all.

Antrims geographical location makes it even harder to recruit the elite coaches. Laois were able to get Eddie Brennan this year and it has worked out well, but after his stint with Kilkenny u21s, I personally thought it was a gamble, but I've been proved wrong.

Imo getting a high profile candidate is a short term fix, and if there are stronger structures in place at underage level this should eventually feed through to the seniors, similar to what happened in Clare and Limerick in recent years.

I watched the game on gaanow and the facilities in Dunloy look top class.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2019, 07:35:25 AM
Quote from: saffronbhoy on June 09, 2019, 01:37:54 AM
I think people are being very harsh. Beating Offaly last week did not make us world beaters while losing this week does not make us that bad. The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament where all teams are very equal, we just had a bad day, just like Westmeath had when losing to Kerry. This is the most positive I've been about an Antrim hurling setup in a long time. Some fabulous young players have stepped up this season and are only going to get better. McNaughton and the two Molloys are the best prospects I've seen coming thru In Antrim hurling in quite a while.

The most frustrating thing yesterday was that we played terribly and had so many unforced errors all round the field. I think Westmeath are a good bit better than us but we just didn't play at all. There were a number of times we handed them the ball - literally.

I would not agree with the criticism of management. I think we have a lot of players who have come on well this year and we are in a better place as you say but it is still disappointing how we played.

Physical strength wise we are a long way off. That would be my main concern.

Fitzgerald will burn Wexford out and came into Wexford when they had just come off the back of some fantastic underage teams. A boy like him would not be the answer.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
McManus a pundit on the Sunday game today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
McManus a pundit on the Sunday game today.

A sop to the "no coverage of Joe McDonagh" but yeah he has been relentlessly raising his profile for a few years now so fair play to him. Would say southerners couldn't name another Antrim player
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 09, 2019, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
McManus a pundit on the Sunday game today.
A sop to the "no coverage of Joe McDonagh" but yeah he has been relentlessly raising his profile for a few years now so fair play to him. Would say southerners couldn't name another Antrim player

Quite a few northerners couldn't name many more either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on June 09, 2019, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: ardtole on June 09, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 10:59:46 PM
Quote from: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.

Ok I'll bite, what could have made the difference with what we had? Wh were better and even with the best manager and all players available we'd have still lost, obviously you know different, so expand on you post please

My interpretation of what old timer is suggesting,  is should the Antrim county board put their resources into recruiting a high profile Davy Fitz, Anthony Daly type manager. Similar to the wexford county boards approach when they hired Davy Fitz and Banty for their Hurlers and footballers.

It could be argued that the wexford Hurlers were on a slippery slope similar to Offaly at present and Davy has steadied the ship and made them competitive without really challenging at the business end of the championship.

The footballers were coming from div 4 and Banty was probably as high profile a manager they were capable of recruiting but he made no impact at all.

Antrims geographical location makes it even harder to recruit the elite coaches. Laois were able to get Eddie Brennan this year and it has worked out well, but after his stint with Kilkenny u21s, I personally thought it was a gamble, but I've been proved wrong.

Imo getting a high profile candidate is a short term fix, and if there are stronger structures in place at underage level this should eventually feed through to the seniors, similar to what happened in Clare and Limerick in recent years.

I watched the game on gaanow and the facilities in Dunloy look top class.

The manager doesn't have to be high profile at all just someone that would inject new life/ideas into the team and try to bring about more than one or two wins.   High profile would be a bonus!! And yes let's face it who wants to travel the length of Ireland to go training twice/three times a week unless it's for a large sum of money.   I know our capabilities and I know certainly we aren't world beaters but trying to reinvent the wheel with the same tools (no pun intended) just isn't working.  Yesterday was like Groundhog Day.    A win here or there just isn't enough for a proud County like Antrim. Being a half decent hurler most certainly does not make you a good manager/coach unfortunately that's been proven.  I wish I knew what the answer was but I do know that sidewards or backward moves aren't it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on June 09, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
I disagree. If it takes 10 years, it takes 10 years.

For too long, we have chased the quick fix of an elite manager for the senior team. That just isn't the answer.

When was the last time an Antrim minor team won a game of note? 1979 when we reached a Leinster final?

Was at the Antrim Kildare minor game earlier this year and Kildare simply blew us away in both physique and touch. That team is now playing a Leinster semi final for the first time in their history and is the result of years of work at underage - not an elite manager being appointed over the Kildare senior team.

Naas have played Division 1 in the Feile for the last number of years - when (if ever) have an Antrim team played Division 1? For the last couple of years, we haven't even entered a team in the Forrestal but have played in the B competition.

It's simply not realistic to think that someone can "fix" our senior team - we have to start producing at underage or we are at nothing.

Quote from: old timers on June 09, 2019, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: ardtole on June 09, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 10:59:46 PM
Quote from: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.

Ok I'll bite, what could have made the difference with what we had? Wh were better and even with the best manager and all players available we'd have still lost, obviously you know different, so expand on you post please

My interpretation of what old timer is suggesting,  is should the Antrim county board put their resources into recruiting a high profile Davy Fitz, Anthony Daly type manager. Similar to the wexford county boards approach when they hired Davy Fitz and Banty for their Hurlers and footballers.

It could be argued that the wexford Hurlers were on a slippery slope similar to Offaly at present and Davy has steadied the ship and made them competitive without really challenging at the business end of the championship.

The footballers were coming from div 4 and Banty was probably as high profile a manager they were capable of recruiting but he made no impact at all.

Antrims geographical location makes it even harder to recruit the elite coaches. Laois were able to get Eddie Brennan this year and it has worked out well, but after his stint with Kilkenny u21s, I personally thought it was a gamble, but I've been proved wrong.

Imo getting a high profile candidate is a short term fix, and if there are stronger structures in place at underage level this should eventually feed through to the seniors, similar to what happened in Clare and Limerick in recent years.

I watched the game on gaanow and the facilities in Dunloy look top class.

The manager doesn't have to be high profile at all just someone that would inject new life/ideas into the team and try to bring about more than one or two wins.   High profile would be a bonus!! And yes let's face it who wants to travel the length of Ireland to go training twice/three times a week unless it's for a large sum of money.   I know our capabilities and I know certainly we aren't world beaters but trying to reinvent the wheel with the same tools (no pun intended) just isn't working.  Yesterday was like Groundhog Day.    A win here or there just isn't enough for a proud County like Antrim. Being a half decent hurler most certainly does not make you a good manager/coach unfortunately that's been proven.  I wish I knew what the answer was but I do know that sidewards or backward moves aren't it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on June 09, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
I disagree. If it takes 10 years, it takes 10 years.

For too long, we have chased the quick fix of an elite manager for the senior team. That just isn't the answer.

When was the last time an Antrim minor team won a game of note? 1979 when we reached a Leinster final?

Was at the Antrim Kildare minor game earlier this year and Kildare simply blew us away in both physique and touch. That team is now playing a Leinster semi final for the first time in their history and is the result of years of work at underage - not an elite manager being appointed over the Kildare senior team.

Naas have played Division 1 in the Feile for the last number of years - when (if ever) have an Antrim team played Division 1? For the last couple of years, we haven't even entered a team in the Forrestal but have played in the B competition.

It's simply not realistic to think that someone can "fix" our senior team - we have to start producing at underage or we are at nothing.

Quote from: old timers on June 09, 2019, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: ardtole on June 09, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2019, 10:59:46 PM
Quote from: old timers on June 08, 2019, 10:06:46 PM
That's a real sad thought 5-10 years.  I'll not see it unfortunately😩. Would love to think we could bring someone in whether it be inside or outside of Antrim that could give us a bit of hope. The county board should get their act together now and see if there is anyone interested in making a difference to Antrim hurling - give plenty of time to try and find someone not just appointing the same people Over again.

Ok I'll bite, what could have made the difference with what we had? Wh were better and even with the best manager and all players available we'd have still lost, obviously you know different, so expand on you post please

My interpretation of what old timer is suggesting,  is should the Antrim county board put their resources into recruiting a high profile Davy Fitz, Anthony Daly type manager. Similar to the wexford county boards approach when they hired Davy Fitz and Banty for their Hurlers and footballers.

It could be argued that the wexford Hurlers were on a slippery slope similar to Offaly at present and Davy has steadied the ship and made them competitive without really challenging at the business end of the championship.

The footballers were coming from div 4 and Banty was probably as high profile a manager they were capable of recruiting but he made no impact at all.

Antrims geographical location makes it even harder to recruit the elite coaches. Laois were able to get Eddie Brennan this year and it has worked out well, but after his stint with Kilkenny u21s, I personally thought it was a gamble, but I've been proved wrong.

Imo getting a high profile candidate is a short term fix, and if there are stronger structures in place at underage level this should eventually feed through to the seniors, similar to what happened in Clare and Limerick in recent years.

I watched the game on gaanow and the facilities in Dunloy look top class.

The manager doesn't have to be high profile at all just someone that would inject new life/ideas into the team and try to bring about more than one or two wins.   High profile would be a bonus!! And yes let's face it who wants to travel the length of Ireland to go training twice/three times a week unless it's for a large sum of money.   I know our capabilities and I know certainly we aren't world beaters but trying to reinvent the wheel with the same tools (no pun intended) just isn't working.  Yesterday was like Groundhog Day.    A win here or there just isn't enough for a proud County like Antrim. Being a half decent hurler most certainly does not make you a good manager/coach unfortunately that's been proven.  I wish I knew what the answer was but I do know that sidewards or backward moves aren't it.

I agree. Money should be pumped into underage development.  Not into a high profile manager who'll come in for a year or two then disappear into the sunset.   

When I mean pumped in, I mean in a structured way.  Fund the underage squads.  Like clubs, I never understand why clubs, in both hurling and football, pay big sums of money to outside 'one year wonder' managers yet underage coaches are using 5 year old ripped bibs and lack of equipment.. I know it's businesses the fund these managers but a quiet word in the ear would do no harm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on June 10, 2019, 07:14:51 AM
Last year we lost every game and ended up in a relegation play off. This year we won 2 games and had a chance of making the final. How is that not an improvement? Outside managers cost a fortune and are only interested in promoting themselves. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2019, 08:00:11 AM
When I heard the Leinster Minor result v Kildare a few weeks ago my heart sank. Then I realised that Antrim hurling has been slipping slowly but surely over the past 10-15 years especially at underage level with the exception of the underage victory in the Celtic Challenge a few years ago.

The last time Antrim competed at minor level was when Sambo and Woody were in charge when they put it up to both Limerick and Galway.

At senior level we are where we are for a number of reasons and the Joe McDonagh is the level we are at and will probably remain for a few years.

As was mentioned, Antrim's geographical location does no favours in the search for a Leinster or Munster coach / manager. There really isn't much point in employing a manager from down the country at present. Antrim as a hurling county are going to have to do this themselves. The sooner a lot of people in the Antrim hurling fraternity realise that we are going to have to build from scratch the better.

I think it has started with the present hurling management. Neal Peden is going to need time to steady the ship, develop the team and to put his own stamp on it.

There are some excellent hurlers presently on that team, but on Saturday I noticed the lack of lads from Belfast clubs with the exception of a couple. Surely a cause for concern there.

The Gaelfast initiative is a start - better half a loaf than no loaf.  The county now have secured this funding and have put this plan into place. It is now up to everyone in the clubs to grasp this opportunity and run with it.

There is no quick fix. It will take time but in the end it can only benefit the GAA in Antrim in the long run if everyone sings off the same hymn sheet.   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 08:06:33 AM
We had a competitive minor team round 05 06 07 with mcmanus graffiti mcnaughton etc We should have beat limerick and we're unlucky to get beat by a point. They went on to get beat by a Joe canning lead Galway in the final.

We also gave kilkenny a real rattle about 96 with Brian mcfall and kieran jelly outstanding.

We do seem to be slipping but I do think there is a lot of potential in some of the young players in the current team.

Also u21 final not that many years ago while I remember.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on June 10, 2019, 08:35:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2019, 01:11:50 PM
McManus a pundit on the Sunday game today.

A sop to the "no coverage of Joe McDonagh" but yeah he has been relentlessly raising his profile for a few years now so fair play to him. Would say southerners couldn't name another Antrim player

I actually thought Neil spoke very well, certainly one of the better punditry performances recently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2019, 08:41:22 AM
First northern hurling pundit since Ciaran Barr way back in the 90's.

Thought Neil spoke well and certainly wasn't overawed by Dalo and Donal Óg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 10, 2019, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2019, 08:41:22 AM
First northern hurling pundit since Ciaran Barr way back in the 90's.

Thought Neil spoke well and certainly wasn't overawed by Dalo and Donal Óg.
Thought he was good and and he'll definitely be back. He's not the type of fella to go into something unprepared so you know he will have done his homework beforehand rather than some of these lads who rock up and have nothing to say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
The hurling is usually not too bad for that though. The football punditry on RTE is just full of bluffers these days.

You get debate and people get allowed to talk with the hurling pundits. They just talk over the top of each other in the football. (Well specifically Brolly).

I'd be surprised if he wasn't back. He did some decent analysis on that game too and fitted in well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2019, 09:30:10 AM
Really disappointed in the game on Saturday.

It was like men against boys for most of it. Even with that with ten minutes to go the game was still there for the taking, but we didnt have enough about us to go and take it on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2019, 09:43:43 AM
Westmeath blocked off the runs that would have been made by James McNaughton, Nigel Óg, Ciaran Clarke etc.

Physically they were too strong and had lads 6 foot plus all over the field who weren't shy about throwing their weight about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 10, 2019, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
The hurling is usually not too bad for that though. The football punditry on RTE is just full of bluffers these days.

You get debate and people get allowed to talk with the hurling pundits. They just talk over the top of each other in the football. (Well specifically Brolly).

I'd be surprised if he wasn't back. He did some decent analysis on that game too and fitted in well.

Looked like Brolly was half cut at the Donegal v Tyrone match.

Kept mouthing and cutting in every time O'Rourke tried to make his point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2019, 09:30:10 AM
Really disappointed in the game on Saturday.

It was like men against boys for most of it. Even with that with ten minutes to go the game was still there for the taking, but we didnt have enough about us to go and take it on.

Hurling at higher levels has got much more physical over the last number of years (I think strength and conditioning programmes have a lot to do with it). We haven't really got any more physical at all.

We are very lightweight in comparison to some of the teams we play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2019, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2019, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 10, 2019, 09:30:10 AM
Really disappointed in the game on Saturday.

It was like men against boys for most of it. Even with that with ten minutes to go the game was still there for the taking, but we didnt have enough about us to go and take it on.

Hurling at higher levels has got much more physical over the last number of years (I think strength and conditioning programmes have a lot to do with it). We haven't really got any more physical at all.

We are very lightweight in comparison to some of the teams we play.

The smallest player they had (11) was fielding balls off our 'bigger' players and winning dirty ball also.. we really need to look at this side of things, NMcM who usually in the physical side of things more than enough holds his own but even he was being bullied off the ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
you would of swore that it was october last night in Ballycastle at that game. raining and the standard wind blowing one way down the pitch at last nights game.

was a decent game and Ballycastle put it up to us. scored two goals in the first half to put the pressure on and we were only up by 1 at the break playing with the strong breeze. second half we played a bit better and keep knocking the scores over to get over the line.

not a great performance but a good win despite not starting a full team.

on another note id love to see who sits down and looks at fixtures for the senior teams. they had us fixed to play a Countess of antrim match sat night with Armoy (reserve north antrim comp), county D2 senior football away to Lisburn Sunday, U21 hurling championship v Ballycastle Monday night and senior and reserve D1 v Portaferry Wednesday night.

For some of those lads its a potential 5 games in 7 days which wont happen but who really has the brains to sit down and fix things like this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 13, 2019, 09:21:09 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
you would of swore that it was october last night in Ballycastle at that game. raining and the standard wind blowing one way down the pitch at last nights game.

was a decent game and Ballycastle put it up to us. scored two goals in the first half to put the pressure on and we were only up by 1 at the break playing with the strong breeze. second half we played a bit better and keep knocking the scores over to get over the line.

not a great performance but a good win despite not starting a full team.

on another note id love to see who sits down and looks at fixtures for the senior teams. they had us fixed to play a Countess of antrim match sat night with Armoy (reserve north antrim comp), county D2 senior football away to Lisburn Sunday, U21 hurling championship v Ballycastle Monday night and senior and reserve D1 v Portaferry Wednesday night.

For some of those lads its a potential 5 games in 7 days which wont happen but who really has the brains to sit down and fix things like this.

Down GAA are looking that game cancelled due to the Christy Ring final on the following Saturday, not sure how that will pan out.

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Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
you would of swore that it was october last night in Ballycastle at that game. raining and the standard wind blowing one way down the pitch at last nights game.

was a decent game and Ballycastle put it up to us. scored two goals in the first half to put the pressure on and we were only up by 1 at the break playing with the strong breeze. second half we played a bit better and keep knocking the scores over to get over the line.

not a great performance but a good win despite not starting a full team.

on another note id love to see who sits down and looks at fixtures for the senior teams. they had us fixed to play a Countess of antrim match sat night with Armoy (reserve north antrim comp), county D2 senior football away to Lisburn Sunday, U21 hurling championship v Ballycastle Monday night and senior and reserve D1 v Portaferry Wednesday night.

For some of those lads its a potential 5 games in 7 days which wont happen but who really has the brains to sit down and fix things like this.

Never head to Ballycastle without an umbrella not even in June, it was Baltic but worth the soaking.
Ballycastle put it up to us  and great result with so many players rested. Ballycastle did us a favor by moving Clarke into corner forward in second half. When he was playing in CHF he was creating havoc and involved in most of their scores. For us very impressed with Ronan Molloy and young Mc Cann
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 13, 2019, 10:06:48 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 13, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 13, 2019, 09:08:43 AM
you would of swore that it was october last night in Ballycastle at that game. raining and the standard wind blowing one way down the pitch at last nights game.

was a decent game and Ballycastle put it up to us. scored two goals in the first half to put the pressure on and we were only up by 1 at the break playing with the strong breeze. second half we played a bit better and keep knocking the scores over to get over the line.

not a great performance but a good win despite not starting a full team.

on another note id love to see who sits down and looks at fixtures for the senior teams. they had us fixed to play a Countess of antrim match sat night with Armoy (reserve north antrim comp), county D2 senior football away to Lisburn Sunday, U21 hurling championship v Ballycastle Monday night and senior and reserve D1 v Portaferry Wednesday night.

For some of those lads its a potential 5 games in 7 days which wont happen but who really has the brains to sit down and fix things like this.

Never head to Ballycastle without an umbrella not even in June, it was Baltic but worth the soaking.
Ballycastle put it up to us  and great result with so many players rested. Ballycastle did us a favor by moving Clarke into corner forward in second half. When he was playing in CHF he was creating havoc and involved in most of their scores. For us very impressed with Ronan Molloy and young Mc Cann

thought the both of them played well. A good work rate for the whole hour and both took good scores when presented the chances.

I do think we over complicated clearing the ball from the back with short passes that got themselves into bother but second half we were much more solid. Bunga was as always solid and worked well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
Just seeing the division 1 results from last night. All the down clubs did very well. Wouldn't have expected any of them to get points. (Though I guess maybe ballycran may be deemed stronger than Rossa but not sure on that).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2019, 09:08:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 13, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
Just seeing the division 1 results from last night. All the down clubs did very well. Wouldn't have expected any of them to get points. (Though I guess maybe ballycran may be deemed stronger than Rossa but not sure on that).

Jonnies didn't look full strength down with us, we were missing a few too, but taking nothing away from our lads it was one of their better performances of the year and the fitness levels are improving, hence work rate is improving which was sorely lacking earlier in the year.
St Galls on Wednesday night is a relegation battle for us (if it goes ahead)
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2019, 09:20:34 AM
Is the ring final not on saturday? I don't know the down team but surely you have quite a few on it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2019, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2019, 09:20:34 AM
Is the ring final not on saturday? I don't know the down team but surely you have quite a few on it?

Next Saturday, the 22nd is the date for the CR final.

We have three or four on the panel, as light as we've been in a while, but no bad thing as it impacts on club training less.
We'd had more but there's still some lads out in Australia for the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 18, 2019, 08:44:21 AM
seen a few people giving off on twitter about the U21 rule that stops fellas in their first year of minor playing U21. Is this a new thing?

A few lads from BC seem to be blaming this for them not being able to field against us last night.

I found it very strange to see a team not being able to field that we played in the county final the year before. I honestly thought that BC would of been a strong contender for it this season again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2019, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 18, 2019, 08:44:21 AM
seen a few people giving off on twitter about the U21 rule that stops fellas in their first year of minor playing U21. Is this a new thing?

A few lads from BC seem to be blaming this for them not being able to field against us last night.

I found it very strange to see a team not being able to field that we played in the county final the year before. I honestly thought that BC would of been a strong contender for it this season again.

Shambles that a club that size can't field. Regardless of any rule, ridiculous as it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 20, 2019, 08:47:32 AM
pointless game last night against Portaferry in the league. they were missing their county players and you could tell that.

have to feel a degree of sympathy for them in having to field two Wednesdays in a row in north antrim and also not having a full panel.

That being said it was a good performance from ourselves missing so many players as well with the final game this Sunday before the league splits.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2019, 11:14:27 AM
Top of division two looks to be getting interesting with sarsfields beat and st endas beating Creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 20, 2019, 02:58:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2019, 11:14:27 AM
Top of division two looks to be getting interesting with sarsfields beat and st endas beating Creggan.

I think a few of the teams that got beat last night will take the defeats ok as not too many want to go up  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2019, 07:01:55 PM
Quote from: cfclg on June 20, 2019, 02:58:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2019, 11:14:27 AM
Top of division two looks to be getting interesting with sarsfields beat and st endas beating Creggan.

I think a few of the teams that got beat last night will take the defeats ok as not too many want to go up  8)

I think St Endas want to as do Sarsfields, Creggan not as equipped too as they have a panel that have too many dual players, Sarsfields in same bracket though. St Endas want to go up, there is no way Sambo would accept anything else, and why should he
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Dunloy 7-25 loughgiel 0-12 in the u21 championship. That isn't going to go down well in loughgiel!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2019, 10:45:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2019, 10:08:12 PM
Dunloy 7-25 loughgiel 0-12 in the u21 championship. That isn't going to go down well in loughgiel!

Haven't seen Cushendall at this level but fancied the Johnnies, Dunloy are currently, at this level, untouchable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 25, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
the game was over in the first 5 mins of the game. we were 3-02 to 0-00 up and it killed the game off completely as a contest.

it was a game that as a supporter we get to enjoy how good a crop of players we have there and some of their hurling was a joy to watch. Michael mcGarry from Lgiel had a good game tagging 7 points for his effort.

Cdall will be a tough final as i fancied St Johns to win that game. they had a fair chunk of senior players in their squad so i thought they would have too much for the Dall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2019, 10:04:33 AM
You playing it cool dr...

I was surprised to see cushendall win as St. John's looked to have quite a few seniors in there( well from reading reports). Cushendall always seem to tick over well at these kind of levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 25, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2019, 10:04:33 AM
You playing it cool dr...

I was surprised to see cushendall win as St. John's looked to have quite a few seniors in there( well from reading reports). Cushendall always seem to tick over well at these kind of levels.

i learned my lessons last year. I got carried away before the senior semi final and ended up having to suck eggs over it lol  :D

but yes we enjoyed last night down to how good these young lads are. they love to pass the ball and are all pushing each other to get into that senior team which has made them all very competitive and train that much harder.

Cushendall always seem to get a result against the Johnies esp when they are not favourites or they are backed into a corner.

has anyone any idea when the final is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 29, 2019, 07:49:30 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 25, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 25, 2019, 10:04:33 AM
You playing it cool dr...

I was surprised to see cushendall win as St. John's looked to have quite a few seniors in there( well from reading reports). Cushendall always seem to tick over well at these kind of levels.

i learned my lessons last year. I got carried away before the senior semi final and ended up having to suck eggs over it lol  :D

but yes we enjoyed last night down to how good these young lads are. they love to pass the ball and are all pushing each other to get into that senior team which has made them all very competitive and train that much harder.

Cushendall always seem to get a result against the Johnies esp when they are not favourites or they are backed into a corner.

has anyone any idea when the final is?

Apparently there is no final now  :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on June 29, 2019, 08:25:49 PM
Cushendall have pulled out of the final , what a joke after Ballycastle conceding the the QF.Loughguile were missing a few but at least they fielded.For a few years Dunloy took heavy defeats at this level but not once did we consider not playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2019, 10:15:33 PM
What is going on there? Seems very strange to happen for a final having got that far.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:32:01 PM
Cushendall asked for the final to be put back a week and the county said no.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 29, 2019, 11:42:18 PM
U21 Hurling Championship Final Update

Ruairí Óg CLG played and won our U21 hurling championship semi final on Monday night in a close entertaining game against a good St Johns team. Due to injuries to some of the panel we fielded with only 15 players available - we had no substitutes.

We were delighted to win the game and advance to the Final scheduled for Monday 1st July.

During the game one of our players sustained a broken finger and we learnt that 3 other players would not be in the country leaving us with 11 available players for the final.

Our U21 manager spoke with the Dunloy manager and advised him of our situation. The Dunloy manager very sportingly agreed to reschedule the final for later in July, subject to approval from CCC. We greatly appreciated the support of Dunloy and allowing us the honour of still competing in an U21 Final later in July.

Today Antrim CCC asked us to confirm were we playing in the final on Monday?

We again explained the fact that we only had 11 players available for the final on Monday and that Dunloy had agreed to move the game to later in July subject to approval by CCC.

Unfortunately this request was refused by CCC and today the game was awarded to Dunloy.

We would like to congratulate Dunloy CLG and they are a talented U21 team.

At the same time we have to put on record that we are bitterly disappointed that our County would not approve the request to reschedule the game - which had approval from our opponents Dunloy Gaa.

From C'Dall Facebook page
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gaelforce13 on June 30, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2019, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 18, 2019, 08:44:21 AM
seen a few people giving off on twitter about the U21 rule that stops fellas in their first year of minor playing U21. Is this a new thing?

A few lads from BC seem to be blaming this for them not being able to field against us last night.

I found it very strange to see a team not being able to field that we played in the county final the year before. I honestly thought that BC would of been a strong contender for it this season again.

Shambles that a club that size can't field. Regardless of any rule, ridiculous as it is.
This didn't age well.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 30, 2019, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: gaelforce13 on June 30, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2019, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 18, 2019, 08:44:21 AM
seen a few people giving off on twitter about the U21 rule that stops fellas in their first year of minor playing U21. Is this a new thing?

A few lads from BC seem to be blaming this for them not being able to field against us last night.

I found it very strange to see a team not being able to field that we played in the county final the year before. I honestly thought that BC would of been a strong contender for it this season again.

Shambles that a club that size can't field. Regardless of any rule, ridiculous as it is.
This didn't age well.........

Same applies poor form
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 05, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
anyone at the Lgiel v Ballycran game? was going to head over to it but went to watch our footballers instead. by the score line it wasnt up to much. Did Ballycran not travel strong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on July 10, 2019, 10:11:53 PM
Bit of a surprise in the Feis last night with Ballycastle knocking out Dunloy although it did appear to be a weakened Dunloy team. It appears that the old adage of whoever wins the Feis doesn't win the championship still holds water in Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on July 10, 2019, 10:28:48 PM
Sure cushendall won feis Antrim and Ulster last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 11, 2019, 02:30:53 AM
How about we got beat beat fair and square by a good team who wanted it more,  That's what I seen anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2019, 08:19:29 AM
tbh the lads looked like they cared as much as i did standing in the rain watching it. Ballycastle were well up for it and fully deserved to be 12 points up at half time.

I was more pissed at having to pay £5 for a feis cup semi final! f**king rip off. i though they were taking the piss when they told me a fiver
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 11, 2019, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 11, 2019, 08:19:29 AM
tbh the lads looked like they cared as much as i did standing in the rain watching it. Ballycastle were well up for it and fully deserved to be 12 points up at half time.

I was more pissed at having to pay £5 for a feis cup semi final! f**king rip off. i though they were taking the piss when they told me a fiver

I remember when a £5 got you into the entire Feis Sunday  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2019, 11:00:57 AM
the feis used to be a good day out but its getting later each year and most the players are away on holidays this time of the year it turns it into a pointless competition.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on July 11, 2019, 11:21:35 AM
Feis Sunday was always the first Sunday in July.

When the Feis was taken out of Glenariff and moved around the place, it seemed to lose its appeal.

The crowds that attended back in the day were unreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_lCUTvdb_c
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 11, 2019, 04:58:01 PM


The expansion of the Leinster Senior Hurling Championship will be discussed at a meeting next week according to Leinster GAA chairman Jim Bolger.

Both a six-team championship and an eight-team championship are possibilities. The latter would be split into two groups of four.

It would be a departure from the five-team championship which has been in place since the introduction of the round robin format last year.

"We have a Leinster council meeting next week and we will discuss it at that," said Bolger at the PwC Player of the Month awards on Wednesday.

I even mentioned at looking at having two groups of four at one stage because we were looking at Carlow, Laois, Offaly and Westmeath, we felt they had closed the gap to a level that allowed us to look at that option.

We will discuss next week the possibility of having two fours.

It is timely to review it now and we will look at what options are available to us. We will know next week what the feeling is when the counties go together.

Calls for the expansion of the Leinster championship have become louder following Laois' victory over Dublin in the weekend's preliminary All-Ireland quarter-final.

"I am certainly conscious of the impact of yo-yoing for one team and with all due respect, maybe Laois could stay up there next year," said Bolger.

"But look at what happened at Offaly already, after coming down last year and Carlow are this year's Offaly, at present. What Carlow would have learnt this year may be lost by going back to the McDonagh.

"So, to ensure teams are able to sustain what they have learnt by going up to the top level, the pace of the game and the skills they would have honed, it may not be beneficial for them to go straight back down.

"It is easier to sustain that level against stiffer opposition, with all due respect to the McDonagh group."

Bolger said that any changes would not come into effect until 2021.

"We have to bring this to Congress so it won't kick in til the following year. We are bound by rules in that sense."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 11, 2019, 05:46:41 PM
need I ask who would make up the Joe McDonagh then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on July 12, 2019, 10:57:08 AM
Leinter championship proposals could be quite interesting.
Surely offlay can't be promoted to the liam McCarthy whilst Antrim & Kerry are left behind despite finishing above them in the Joe McDonagh.
GAA hurling hierarchy could further isolate themselves from Ulster hurling should this be allowed to happen.
I totally understand the reasoning behind adjusting the format on the basis of carlow and laois closing the gap however if Westmeath & offlay are being accommodated then so should we
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 12, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Haven't read them, then what happens to Kerry if Antrim are in it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 12, 2019, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Haven't read them, then what happens to Kerry if Antrim are in it?

They are probably awarded the cup without playing a match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on July 12, 2019, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on July 12, 2019, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Haven't read them, then what happens to Kerry if Antrim are in it?

They are probably awarded the cup without playing a match.

They will get heavily fined for not turning up to play the final  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 12, 2019, 01:28:44 PM
On the other hand what if they do turn up ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 12, 2019, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 12, 2019, 01:28:44 PM
On the other hand what if they do turn up ;D

They could play with themselves, until the ref sends in a 0-0 0-0 w/o d/f result, so beloved within Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on July 13, 2019, 09:21:32 PM
My Solution would be that leinster is expanded to 6 teams therefore carolow retain their status.

The new proposals of an 8 team leinster adding in offlay & westmeath i feel, is purely to save offlay from the christy ring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 13, 2019, 11:12:30 PM
Feis Final off due to the passing of Paddy Magill Snr, father of Paddy Magill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 17, 2019, 10:45:56 AM
Full round of games tonight. thank god for some matches finally! seems like an age since we got a game to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 17, 2019, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 17, 2019, 10:45:56 AM
Full round of games tonight. thank god for some matches finally! seems like an age since we got a game to watch.
Just in time for the decent weather finishing  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 17, 2019, 10:04:03 PM
Did loughgiel play Dunloy tonight? Only see results for one game in division one. Good win for at endas by one point over sarsfields at the top of division two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 17, 2019, 10:21:21 PM
Dunloy won 3 18 to 0 21
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 18, 2019, 08:31:47 AM
pretty flat game last night. it threatened at times to be an entertaining game but the rain before hand and at the start of the game turned it into a messy game.

Lgiel were up by 2 a few times but we always managed to peg it back again. we were missing a few players but those who stood in did their jobs and we were able to bring on the likes of Keelan and Ronan molloy as subs to see the game out.

Tough game this weekend away to Cdall which would finish the league off for us fingers crossed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on July 22, 2019, 09:28:17 AM
Big win for the town yesterday, sure that saves them from the drop! Looking at the fixtures and with st galls putting in some nice performances could they possibly do the great escape?
St endas winning again away to creggan all but promoted at this stage youd think, be interesting to see how they will cope with the step up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 22, 2019, 10:19:16 AM
was at the ballycastle v rossa game on friday night. very flat game that rossa were good for the points.

BC seemed to be missing a few players but they still had matty, TT, saul, Conor B in the team. no clarkey which seemed to show when you see the result on sunday against Ballycran. he seems to be the main scoring threat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2019, 10:40:19 AM
Runaway favourites for the championship now DR ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 22, 2019, 10:47:53 AM
Quote from: saffman on July 22, 2019, 09:28:17 AM
Big win for the town yesterday, sure that saves them from the drop! Looking at the fixtures and with st galls putting in some nice performances could they possibly do the great escape?
St endas winning again away to creggan all but promoted at this stage youd think, be interesting to see how they will cope with the step up

We're in a bad way ATM, another lad off to Canada to work leaving a spartan squad already very stretched.

Our two home games against Rossa and St Galls will decide our fate.

We've a good enough minor team in the supply chain but even then they're a panel of 17 and that's from 15yrs old to 18yrs old.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 22, 2019, 10:49:25 AM
Lol ive seen that go wrong before. :D

I wouldnt read much into yesterdays result against Cdall as they were missing a few of their main players in Neil and eoghan. paddy mc gill only came on as a sub in the second half so id say Cdall were far from at full strength.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 23, 2019, 10:00:47 AM
do Portaferry have a reserve team still going? same with the johnies?

was chatting to one of our lads last night and he was saying that they havent played a reserve league game for 2 months. im pretty sure the games v Lgiel and Cdall will be played but its very sad to see so many lads not getting any game time anymore
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 23, 2019, 11:45:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 23, 2019, 10:00:47 AM
do Portaferry have a reserve team still going? same with the johnies?

was chatting to one of our lads last night and he was saying that they havent played a reserve league game for 2 months. im pretty sure the games v Lgiel and Cdall will be played but its very sad to see so many lads not getting any game time anymore

Portaferry still do.

Problem with the reserves is that if the seniors play midweek with only the one game fixed then the reserves by and large don't get played as there's no real impetus to play them as a standalone fixture.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 23, 2019, 06:08:05 PM
With Championship throwing in this Friday night with Rossa v Ballycastle in the Preliminary 1st leg how do we see this one going. I reckon we in for a really tight encounter over the 2 legs but think Ballycastle will do enough with a slightly higher quality of player in their panel. Read nothing into the shadow boxing game last week that Rossa won easy. Have Rossa got back all the players they had ruled out last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 24, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
its a tough one to call. I was at the game the other week and was chatting to curly during it. he said that BC were missing 7 players. I dont know their whole team from 1-15 so it was hard to tell from a neutral point of view if it was making a big difference.

One thing i did notice was that without Ciaran Clarke there their scoring threat was lowered. He carries the main scoring power for BC this last lot of years and is the main forward in the front line.

Rossa have built up a good run of form this past 2 games and with home advantage i think they will edge this game. theres really not much between the two sides in terms of their record in the league this season so id call a couple of points in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 24, 2019, 04:34:22 PM
Just seen that BoyleSports have odds up for the game. They have Rossa at even and Ballycastle 10/11. Very evenly matched and a game I'm looking forward too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 26, 2019, 08:37:53 PM
Rossa giving Ballycastle a tanking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2019, 08:41:49 PM
Everyone thought that would be tight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 26, 2019, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 26, 2019, 08:37:53 PM
Rossa giving Ballycastle a tanking.
What did it finish? Seen a clip on Twitter earlier and it was 19 to 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on July 26, 2019, 11:43:05 PM
Anyone at The Town match up in Belfast.  So much for their being a puck of a ball.  Were the town that bad or Rossa that good? I read Rossa had a few missing? Were BC the same??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on July 29, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
Rossa played very, very well, was pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 06, 2019, 10:16:59 PM
Well done St Endas. The move to NA all those years ago finally paid off.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 06, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Despite a comfortable looking scoreline, I believe we were lucky enough to come away from Ballygalget with a win. Not that that matters. Great win.

Worth an outside bet for big ears??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2019, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Despite a comfortable looking scoreline, I believe we were lucky enough to come away from Ballygalget with a win. Not that that matters. Great win.

Use have picked up a lot of good wins in the past few weeks to keep your fate in your own hands. Fair play to Rossa for digging in there at the end to get the results when needed.

Also well done to St Endas last night. All the good work at under age level this past number of years has helped and it will be nice to welcome them or travel to them next season in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Weekend Championship predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Ballycastle v Rossa - hard to judge with Rossa leading by 14 and not needing to win. Will say Ballycastle by 3
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 7

Let's see other predictions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 07, 2019, 09:59:05 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Weekend Championship predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Ballycastle v Rossa - hard to judge with Rossa leading by 14 and not needing to win. Will say Ballycastle by 3
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 7

Let's see other predictions

Agree with most apart from:

Ballycastle v Rossa. I think Ballycastle have left too much to do here and Rossa should get over the line.
Ahoghill v St Endas. This could be the game of the weekend and think it will be tighter than 7 points. But yes St. Endas to win by 2 or 3.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 07, 2019, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Weekend Championship predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Ballycastle v Rossa - hard to judge with Rossa leading by 14 and not needing to win. Will say Ballycastle by 3
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 7

Let's see other predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 3
Dunloy v Cushendall - I fancy ourselves to win but you really cant tell from Cdall this season. Id take us by 2
Ballycastle v Rossa - Rossa are going well atm so id expect them to be content with a 2/3 point defeat and take the foot off a bit
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 07, 2019, 11:42:47 AM
Is there a reason the cushendall Dunloy game is at 6 on sunday? seems kind of late, is it to facilitate people going to more than one match?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on August 07, 2019, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Weekend Championship predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Ballycastle v Rossa - hard to judge with Rossa leading by 14 and not needing to win. Will say Ballycastle by 3
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 7

Let's see other predictions

Loughiel by 2
Dunloy by 7
Ballycastle by 5
Sarsfields by 13
St endas by 10

Big win for st endas winning  promotion interesting to see how they do rest of the season and next year in div 1.

Sarsfields v ballygalget in a relegation/promotion playoff, if sarsfields are keen on getting up to div 1 i fancy them to just do enough
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 07, 2019, 08:17:17 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 07, 2019, 11:42:47 AM
Is there a reason the cushendall Dunloy game is at 6 on sunday? seems kind of late, is it to facilitate people going to more than one match?

Possibly. Anything on in Dunloy that would cause traffic issues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 07, 2019, 08:42:25 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 07, 2019, 09:28:47 AM
Weekend Championship predictions

Loughgiel v St Johns - Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy v Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Ballycastle v Rossa - hard to judge with Rossa leading by 14 and not needing to win. Will say Ballycastle by 3
Cushendun v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 10 plus
Ahoghill v St Endas - St Endas by 7

Let's see other predictions

Loughgiel by 5
Dunloy by 10
Ballycastle by 5
sarsfields by 15
St Endas by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 08, 2019, 08:56:23 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 07, 2019, 08:17:17 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 07, 2019, 11:42:47 AM
Is there a reason the cushendall Dunloy game is at 6 on sunday? seems kind of late, is it to facilitate people going to more than one match?

Possibly. Anything on in Dunloy that would cause traffic issues?

naw, it was set for saturday, an hour after the Lgiel match but they have moved it i assume to accommodate the fact they would miss out on two large gates.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 08, 2019, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Despite a comfortable looking scoreline, I believe we were lucky enough to come away from Ballygalget with a win. Not that that matters. Great win.

We hit the woodwork/metalwork twice when it looked easier to score a goal.

Your lads kept the two point gap through most of the second half and we couldn't close it. At the end we started going for goals and your lads kept popping the frees/points over and that was that.

I think we've Sarsfields to play in a relegation/promotion playoff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2019, 10:25:31 PM
Was at the Junior B hurling final there.

Sweet mercy of Christ that is the rumbliest standard of hurling I've ever seen lol so much ground hurling and also so much off the ball stuff and bad tackling it's a wonder there was only 3 reds. I seen 3 head butts that didn't even get a yellow! Lol

But it was the best entertainment I've had in a long time. Ballymena were 2-10 to 0-08 up and Larne hit 2 goat and it all changed. Some come back from them and Ballymena just fell apart to the end when they looked good for the win

Some of the discipline was shocking and the ref could of sent off 4 more players but fair play to Paul he always kept his cool and didn't over react.

Junior B lived up to my expectations  the night in terms of skill level but it was a good nights entertainment 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 09, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
It wasn't easy on the eye but I for one do not give a flying feck.Our club was dead for 5 years with no hurling at all and one of the best pitches in Antrim.It might be a Junior B but to me we may as well have lifted the Liam McCarthy tonight.The Latharna Og club have had to put up with few other clubs have had to over the years with the exception of St Endas and Ardoyne.Easy enough to knock it from the lofty perch of Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2019, 11:09:45 PM
Lol settle down there.

I called it for what it was, junior b hurling. It was hard to watch at times but fair play to Larne for getting the result at the end up. I for one was glad to see use back up and going again and that result the night was a testament to those who didn't give up on the club.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2019, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2019, 10:28:11 PM
Larne hit 2 goat.

That's Junior B hurling alright.

Nay goats were harmed in the making of that result  ;D
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Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 09, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
Heard they're celebrating in the Masonic Club tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on August 10, 2019, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 09, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
It wasn't easy on the eye but I for one do not give a flying feck.Our club was dead for 5 years with no hurling at all and one of the best pitches in Antrim.It might be a Junior B but to me we may as well have lifted the Liam McCarthy tonight.The Latharna Og club have had to put up with few other clubs have had to over the years with the exception of St Endas and Ardoyne.Easy enough to knock it from the lofty perch of Dunloy.


Great effort from Latharna Og. Hope  they can keep it going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2019, 08:18:56 AM
Fair play to Larne, some decent people involved in that club and they deserve every bit of credit possible.
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Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2019, 08:32:38 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 09, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
It wasn't easy on the eye but I for one do not give a flying feck.Our club was dead for 5 years with no hurling at all and one of the best pitches in Antrim.It might be a Junior B but to me we may as well have lifted the Liam McCarthy tonight.The Latharna Og club have had to put up with few other clubs have had to over the years with the exception of St Endas and Ardoyne.Easy enough to knock it from the lofty perch of Dunloy.

I would put ahoghill in that camp too. Really pleased to see Larne win this (no offense to Ballymena). I wonder will they enter the ai competition Ballymena did last year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2019, 08:50:13 AM
Heading to the double header in Glenravel the day. Haven't seen any of the teams play this year so I'm going by league results.

I'm assuming that it would be a Sarsfields & st Endas double?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2019, 08:24:25 PM
Good double header today. Second game was a damp squib, St Endas superb side.

Fair play to Glenravel for the organisation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2019, 09:24:08 PM
20 points on ahoghill from st endas. Big scoring. Cushendun ran sarsfields closer than I thought they would. Decent win for loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 10, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
Was at the Lgiel v St John's game. Threatened to become a good game but was very stop start

Wasn't much in the game and Lgiel got a goal right st the death to give them a 6 point win.

Tough game and very physical. Not much between the sides.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2019, 04:16:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
Was at the Lgiel v St John's game. Threatened to become a good game but was very stop start

Wasn't much in the game and Lgiel got a goal right st the death to give them a 6 point win.

Tough game and very physical. Not much between the sides.
Dunloy's to win for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on August 11, 2019, 04:16:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 10, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
Was at the Lgiel v St John's game. Threatened to become a good game but was very stop start

Wasn't much in the game and Lgiel got a goal right st the death to give them a 6 point win.

Tough game and very physical. Not much between the sides.
Dunloy's to win for sure.

We will see the day what we're made of ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 11, 2019, 08:43:49 PM
Not a bad game. Some strange calls from Mark O'Neill in my opinion. Cushendall missing a few and I don't they will be 2 annoyed with that result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 12, 2019, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 11, 2019, 08:43:49 PM
Not a bad game. Some strange calls from Mark O'Neill in my opinion. Cushendall missing a few and I don't they will be 2 annoyed with that result.

What he do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
that was a very flat game yesterday and not one you would be taking anything from for who could win the championship. In fact if you were at any of the games over the weekend you would be none the wiser as to who would win it.

Didnt think we played bad but it was more in patches we played well. Both defences were on top for large periods of the game and it showed with the lack of attempts on goal for each side. It was a case of as you were until this weekend to see if anything can be found out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2019, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 12, 2019, 12:51:46 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 11, 2019, 08:43:49 PM
Not a bad game. Some strange calls from Mark O'Neill in my opinion. Cushendall missing a few and I don't they will be 2 annoyed with that result.

What he do?

He gave a free to C'Dall and Campbell swung out and he booked him, surely that would be a
hop ball instead he let the free stay with C'Dall. Dunloy got a score that was almost certainly 3 times in the hand.

Shorty still a class act.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 12, 2019, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
that was a very flat game yesterday and not one you would be taking anything from for who could win the championship. In fact if you were at any of the games over the weekend you would be none the wiser as to who would win it.

Didnt think we played bad but it was more in patches we played well. Both defences were on top for large periods of the game and it showed with the lack of attempts on goal for each side. It was a case of as you were until this weekend to see if anything can be found out.

When's the last time we got a good game with cushendall involved. They turn the whole thing into a low scoring meat grinder. They are quite entitled to but it's not  great entertainment and our lads just had to keep the head down and break the tackles which they did. Job done and move on, Rossa at home is gonna be tough as well. League is over and championship is a more even contest for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 12, 2019, 06:11:20 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 12, 2019, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
that was a very flat game yesterday and not one you would be taking anything from for who could win the championship. In fact if you were at any of the games over the weekend you would be none the wiser as to who would win it.

Didnt think we played bad but it was more in patches we played well. Both defences were on top for large periods of the game and it showed with the lack of attempts on goal for each side. It was a case of as you were until this weekend to see if anything can be found out.

When's the last time we got a good game with cushendall involved. They turn the whole thing into a low scoring meat grinder. They are quite entitled to but it's not  great entertainment and our lads just had to keep the head down and break the tackles which they did. Job done and move on, Rossa at home is gonna be tough as well. League is over and championship is a more even contest for sure.

Joe Brolly? The style works for them..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 19, 2019, 11:00:59 AM
I see all the teams from the higher division won the play off games, playing against higher level opposition every week def gives teams an advantage, what was the reasoning for the 2 legs both at neutral venues? Found that strange, either 2 legs with a home and away or a one off at a neutral ground. Maybe next year they'll tweak it a bit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 19, 2019, 11:00:59 AM
I see all the teams from the higher division won the play off games, playing against higher level opposition every week def gives teams an advantage, what was the reasoning for the 2 legs both at neutral venues? Found that strange, either 2 legs with a home and away or a one off at a neutral ground. Maybe next year they'll tweak it a bit

didnt make any sense at all to me that as well. would of potentially got each team a decent gate but i assume the county were at the gate collecting as it was a neutral venue?
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Post by: johnnycool on August 19, 2019, 02:23:33 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 19, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on August 19, 2019, 11:00:59 AM
I see all the teams from the higher division won the play off games, playing against higher level opposition every week def gives teams an advantage, what was the reasoning for the 2 legs both at neutral venues? Found that strange, either 2 legs with a home and away or a one off at a neutral ground. Maybe next year they'll tweak it a bit

didnt make any sense at all to me that as well. would of potentially got each team a decent gate but i assume the county were at the gate collecting as it was a neutral venue?

Doesn't make much sense at all.

Our neutral venue was in St Galls, about 2 mile from the Stewartstown road.

I suppose in fairness the next game will be in Ballycran   ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 19, 2019, 02:44:52 PM
Strange set up all together for the play offs, however i like the overall idea rather than two up and two down automatically. Home and away would make more sense in future.

Two quarter finals essentially in two weeks time with st johns v st galls and cushendall v rossa. All to play for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2019, 03:43:47 PM
good game on sat with ourselves and Rossa. very competitive and played in a good spirit with both teams going flat out at it all the time. I thought we played much better than we did the week before against Cdall and moved the ball about much better. Keelan Molloy was superb for the whole game.
Have to say that Rossa's pitch was in perfect nick for the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 28, 2019, 05:20:32 AM
Championship returns this weekend with some great looking ties. Prediction time get them in.

Senior
Cushendall v Rossa - Cushendall by 7
St Johns v St Galls - St Johns by 10 plus

Intermediate
Carey v Armoy - Carey by 6
St Endas v Creggan - St Endas by 3
Randalstown v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 8

Junior
St Paul's v St Teresa's - St Paul's by 8
Glenravel v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 10 plus
Glenarm v Lamh Dhearg - Glenarm by 5
Larne v Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 10 plus


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Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2019, 11:05:00 AM
Big test for Rossa to see how far they have come on.

St Endas Creggan looks like a good one too. I think Randalstown may put it up to Sarsfields a bit more than 8 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 28, 2019, 11:48:36 AM
The only game i see being properly close is st endas v creggan.

Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 28, 2019, 05:20:32 AM
Championship returns this weekend with some great looking ties. Prediction time get them in.

Senior
Cushendall v Rossa - Cushendall by 7
St Johns v St Galls - St Johns by 10 plus

Intermediate
Carey v Armoy - Carey by 6
St Endas v Creggan - St Endas by 3
Randalstown v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 8

Junior
St Paul's v St Teresa's - St Paul's by 8
Glenravel v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 10 plus
Glenarm v Lamh Dhearg - Glenarm by 5
Larne v Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 10 plus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 28, 2019, 11:58:55 AM
Senior
Cushendall v Rossa - Cushendall by 5
St Johns v St Galls - St Johns by 10 plus

Intermediate
Carey v Armoy - Carey by 10 +
St Endas v Creggan - St Endas by 6
Randalstown v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 4

Junior
St Paul's v St Teresa's - St Paul's by 6
Glenravel v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 5
Glenarm v Lamh Dhearg - Glenarm by 3

Larne v Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 10 plus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 28, 2019, 01:58:58 PM
Rossa gave us a really good game the other week and they will do the same on saturday with Cdall but the home side should have too much for them and pull away to win by 9/10.

St Johns should do the same as well in their game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 28, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
Are the semi finals an open draw or first plays second from the opposite group?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2019, 03:00:23 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 28, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
Are the semi finals an open draw or first plays second from the opposite group?

Think was an open draw last year from what I remember
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2019, 03:12:39 PM
Is the round robin actually any use really? It seems there are a few dead rubber games. Would people prefer knockouts? I think I would.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 28, 2019, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 28, 2019, 03:12:39 PM
Is the round robin actually any use really? It seems there are a few dead rubber games. Would people prefer knockouts? I think I would.

Dont get it either, prolonging the inevitable results and semi final settings.

It is a laudable idea to give the weaker teams more games to try and increase their levels, but that it what the league should be for. the group stages have turned in or always were glorified league games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 28, 2019, 04:35:27 PM
Yeah I was also thinking that. I would rather pure knockout from straight away. You could get the big teams playing each other in summer months which would be a novelty lol. (not antrim's fault but half of club hurling is in the winter when most of the summer is free for it up here)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 29, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
group games are totally pointless if they dont determine who gets who in the semi finals. whats the bloody point of winning two games if you end up playing a team on the other side who won two game as well.

you could win one game and rest your team off effectively to just go through to the semi finals and draw the team on the other side who won one game as well. pointless set up unless theres a reward for winning your two games.

At the moment all its doing is dragging the thing out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 29, 2019, 09:02:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 29, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
group games are totally pointless if they dont determine who gets who in the semi finals. whats the bloody point of winning two games if you end up playing a team on the other side who won two game as well.

you could win one game and rest your team off effectively to just go through to the semi finals and draw the team on the other side who won one game as well. pointless set up unless theres a reward for winning your two games.

At the moment all its doing is dragging the thing out

Down underage championships have round robin stages where the top team in each group get a home semi-final against the team second in the other group and vice versa.
There's a tangible benefit to finishing top and I think it works well.

Not sure if that could/should translate to senior championship though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 29, 2019, 09:47:58 AM
they do it here this year for the first time in the senior camogie championship where top played second in the other group. ourselves and Ballycastle played out a tough first game where we lost in injury time and it meant we finished second and having to play Lgiel in the semi final.

Makes sense and was the fair way to determine who plays who. this nonsense way of the hurling makes no sense at all and all the games in the groups were dour affairs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on August 29, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
Carey v Armoy fixed for 7pm tomorrow night - far too late to be starting a championship game at this time of year.  Could and should have been fixed for an earlier start on Saturday or Sunday, no common sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2019, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: faughs on August 29, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
Carey v Armoy fixed for 7pm tomorrow night - far too late to be starting a championship game at this time of year.  Could and should have been fixed for an earlier start on Saturday or Sunday, no common sense

Common sense is lacking judging by some of the fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 29, 2019, 11:05:01 PM
Fixtures, timings and venues been poor so far, hopefully will improve for the rest of the  competitions

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2019, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: faughs on August 29, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
Carey v Armoy fixed for 7pm tomorrow night - far too late to be starting a championship game at this time of year.  Could and should have been fixed for an earlier start on Saturday or Sunday, no common sense

Common sense is lacking judging by some of the fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2019, 11:20:58 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 29, 2019, 11:05:01 PM
Fixtures, timings and venues been poor so far, hopefully will improve for the rest of the  competitions

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2019, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: faughs on August 29, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
Carey v Armoy fixed for 7pm tomorrow night - far too late to be starting a championship game at this time of year.  Could and should have been fixed for an earlier start on Saturday or Sunday, no common sense

Common sense is lacking judging by some of the fixtures.

All the games have been spread over the weekend. Friday Saturday and Sundays? Wtf?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 29, 2019, 11:27:19 PM
Carey v Armoy throw-in is at 6.45pm...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 30, 2019, 10:06:35 AM
Mental, whats the rush to play games on a friday night? and if we must play on a friday night play them under lights, get a bit of atmosphere, 6:45 just seems very rushed. even worse, just seen Ballycastles JFC game next week is a friday night game.... 6.45 throw in at st endas, surprised more hasn't been made of that one tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 10:51:45 AM
But sure its over the weekend, like wtf?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 30, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

thats a joke. no way is that fair venue or time for a match for a team in co down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

If only there was a city venue with decent lights.. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 30, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

thats a joke. no way is that fair venue or time for a match for a team in co down

Are there many floodlit venues in Antrim capable of holding a senior hurling game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 30, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

thats a joke. no way is that fair venue or time for a match for a team in co down

Are there many floodlit venues in Antrim capable of holding a senior hurling game?

Ballycastle, Ahoghill, Cargin possibly, Randalstown have lights but I don't know if they can play hurling under them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on August 30, 2019, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 30, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

thats a joke. no way is that fair venue or time for a match for a team in co down

Are there many floodlit venues in Antrim capable of holding a senior hurling game?

Ballycastle, Ahoghill, Cargin possibly, Randalstown have lights but I don't know if they can play hurling under them.

Friday night games at this time of the year in crucial games is just stupid scheduling. Hurling under the floodlights at the above venues is just about ok but should we be going down that route for cship games. Lads training from late last year, gearing up for that one big cship game and then its on a Friday night at 6:45pm. What are we doing to ourselves??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 30, 2019, 01:28:19 PM
Play Off games supposed to be this Wednesday night also. Shocking asking lads to pile into cars after work midweek for crucial games like this. Surely they should be Sats/Suns
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on August 30, 2019, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: cfclg on August 30, 2019, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 30, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 30, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: jdyok on August 30, 2019, 10:20:25 AM
Reserve Hurling Cup Final
Ruairi Og v Ballycran at Ballycastle on Fri 6th at 8pm. Down lads may book into AirBnB...

thats a joke. no way is that fair venue or time for a match for a team in co down

Are there many floodlit venues in Antrim capable of holding a senior hurling game?

Ballycastle, Ahoghill, Cargin possibly, Randalstown have lights but I don't know if they can play hurling under them.

Friday night games at this time of the year in crucial games is just stupid scheduling. Hurling under the floodlights at the above venues is just about ok but should we be going down that route for cship games. Lads training from late last year, gearing up for that one big cship game and then its on a Friday night at 6:45pm. What are we doing to ourselves??

Couldn't agree more, Most players/managers will be at the pitch an hour beforehand therefore county are essentially giving players 45 mins to get home from work, have their dinner then travel to X pitch. Anyone will tell you it simply doesnt add up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 04:06:13 PM
Armoy V Carey called off tonight due to weather.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on August 30, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Is st endas match still on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2019, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: faughs on August 30, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Is st endas match still on?

Haven't saw anything to suggest otherwise. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2019, 05:05:15 PM
Carey Armoy played at 3. Big enough win for Carey. All games to script thus far. St endas apparently got it tight enough against creggan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 31, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Guess whose back......
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2019, 08:17:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 31, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Guess whose back......

Can we have a clue...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 31, 2019, 08:24:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2019, 08:17:37 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 31, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Guess whose back......

Can we have a clue...

No. Where'd be the fun in that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2019, 09:05:41 PM
Did big Jackie make a comeback for cushendall?

Or sambo junior the actor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 31, 2019, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2019, 09:05:41 PM
Did big Jackie make a comeback for cushendall?

Or sambo junior the actor?

Sambo Junior the Pint Puller is back if that's any use to you
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 31, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
Both Sambo juniors are back and so are Karl McKeegan, Natty & Sean Delargy. Waiting on Sambo and Leonard McKeegan to reappear...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: old timers on September 01, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
Headed to cushendall last night for the match - as a nuetural was disappointed.  Wasn't a great match to be honest and the whistle blowing referee didn't let the game flow at all.  Especially in the first half.   The match never got going in my opinion. But Dall deserved the win.  What was more obvious was if the Dall don't have McManus it would be a different story. He played well and took some lovely scores, but his running towards the ref and arguing when he didn't agree with him wasn't nice to see.  I know the ref wasn't great but still.  Iv seen this a few times with him this year. Think With his profile he should know better. iMO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 01, 2019, 08:11:25 PM
If players don't give away frees then the ref hasn't a need to blow. Both team were guilty of stupid things and the ref rightly punished them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 04, 2019, 02:01:37 PM
Any news on semi final venues for championship matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 05, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
Senior championship is double header in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2019, 07:59:53 AM
Quote from: faughs on September 05, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
Senior championship is double header in Ballycastle

Good call by the county board. I'm going for a repeat of last years final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 05, 2019, 03:45:19 PM
great idea for the double header but it was forced on them with the replay of the football on the saturday or it was going to be two games over 2 days.

that being said its great for hurling fans to see both games on one day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 05, 2019, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 05, 2019, 03:45:19 PM
great idea for the double header but it was forced on them with the replay of the football on the saturday or it was going to be two games over 2 days.

that being said its great for hurling fans to see both games on one day

Anyone see a weather forecast  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on September 05, 2019, 07:10:31 PM
Good idea for supporters as long as county board don't go mad with price but absolutely no thought for both Dunloy and Loughguile for players to try and prepare for a massive game with a big crowd and another big match taking place on a pitch beside them isn't ideal preparation and if they were to go somewhere else to warm up they would struggle to get into grounds and parked in time.IMO 1st game should have been played at 1 in either Dunloy or Loughguile and 2nd game at 4 in Ballycastle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 05, 2019, 10:03:43 PM
Dont buy into that at all, county teams participate in double headers and warm up on pitches beside the main pitch while the first game goes ahead all the time.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on September 06, 2019, 06:23:19 AM
Not at a club ground and not with 15 minutes from 1st match ending and 2nd match starting,bear in mind we have had a lot of rain with more forecast for next week so how will the pitch hold up ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2019, 08:33:17 AM
i was wondering that myself about the weather and if the pitch can take two games.

Nothing that can be done now as its too close to the time to be moving the game to another venue or day. It is what it will be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 06, 2019, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2019, 08:33:17 AM
i was wondering that myself about the weather and if the pitch can take two games.

Nothing that can be done now as its too close to the time to be moving the game to another venue or day. It is what it will be.

That pitch always seems to be firm enough even in heavy rain but I can imagine it would be very greasy on top.

Bit of extra thought needed for teams in second match regarding warm-up timing etc but nothing they can't handle!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2019, 08:38:48 PM
A tear of news this evening.

Hurling final to be shown live on TG4 which is brilliant news for the local game

Darren Gleason appointed as the next hurling manager & Neill Peaden as the first director of hurling. Busy evening of news. All of it good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
Yes really happy to see the final live as I probably won't make it this year.

Is McManus playing next year? Some of those Irish news articles look like a man on the way out but I hope not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 09, 2019, 09:37:20 PM
Anyone heard how much into senior double header?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 09, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
£10 for adults. £8 concession

The clubs will be selling tickets involved Thursday night
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Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2019, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 09, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
£10 for adults. £8 concession

The clubs will be selling tickets involved Thursday night

Cheap as chips. Agree with previous post, all positive news tonight. Good luck to Darren and Neal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 10, 2019, 01:40:23 AM
Great news on the TV

Good luck to Darren in the Antrim job.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 02:02:30 AM
Dear God. Batten down the hatches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 02:08:55 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/tipperary-goalkeeper-admits-taking-10-000-from-elderly-man-1.3135439

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 10, 2019, 06:16:13 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 02:08:55 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/tipperary-goalkeeper-admits-taking-10-000-from-elderly-man-1.3135439
And he would have the audacity to walk among the saintly people of Antrim! Cheap shot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2019, 07:43:46 AM
Didn't realise it was that Darren Gleason. Interesting appointment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 07:49:19 AM
cheap shot is right, give the man a chance I'm sure you wouldn't like that posted up about you years after it happened. Good Luck Darren.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 08:50:07 AM
Is it as cheap a shot as going about stealing from old folk? Maybe you should ask people from Tipp, or more importantly his club, what else he was up to. Do one fellas. Only in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2019, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 08:50:07 AM
Is it as cheap a shot as going about stealing from old folk? Maybe you should ask people from Tipp, or more importantly his club, what else he was up to. Do one fellas. Only in Antrim.

;D

Missed you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 09:05:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 08:50:07 AM
Is it as cheap a shot as going about stealing from old folk? Maybe you should ask people from Tipp, or more importantly his club, what else he was up to. Do one fellas. Only in Antrim.
Give the man a chance I'm sure your no angel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 09:08:24 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on September 10, 2019, 09:05:02 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 08:50:07 AM
Is it as cheap a shot as going about stealing from old folk? Maybe you should ask people from Tipp, or more importantly his club, what else he was up to. Do one fellas. Only in Antrim.
Give the man a chance I'm sure your no angel.
wtf? Are you serious?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 10, 2019, 09:42:41 AM
I didn't have time to get round them all but what Tipp people I have talked to recently including players would hold him in higher regard than you do funny enough. Have a bit of cop on and let the man move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 09:54:12 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 10, 2019, 09:42:41 AM
I didn't have time to get round them all but what Tipp people I have talked to recently including players would hold him in higher regard than you do funny enough. Have a bit of cop on and let the man move on.
We've been talking to different people it seems. Anyway, good luck to him. He'll need it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 10, 2019, 10:25:05 AM
We've all missed you SIE  :-*

Just in time for war at the weekend  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2019, 12:00:21 PM
Well at least it's not just Kevin Ryan ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 12:11:34 PM
Not the first time we had a senior manager who liked a gamble...... ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 10, 2019, 12:11:34 PM
Not the first time we had a senior manager who liked a gamble...... ;)
probably the first to steal to do so. 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 10, 2019, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 10, 2019, 12:00:21 PM
Well at least it's not just Kevin Ryan ;D
he done so well with the other teams he managed after Antrim.  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2019, 05:16:29 PM
Paddy Power prices for the SHC semi finals

Cushendall 1/3 Draw 10/1 St Johns 11/4

Dunloy 8/15 Draw 8/1 Loughgiel 7/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 10, 2019, 10:29:46 PM
The weather is coming right for loughgiel to turn Dunloy over like last year.

St. John's are a massive price. Bookies way off the mark there. I'd have it 5/4 and 4/5.



Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2019, 05:16:29 PM
Paddy Power prices for the SHC semi finals

Cushendall 1/3 Draw 10/1 St Johns 11/4

Dunloy 8/15 Draw 8/1 Loughgiel 7/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 11, 2019, 12:33:40 AM
Can't see anything other than four wins for the Belfast teams in the junior and intermediate semifinals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 11, 2019, 02:59:31 PM
Championship Predictions, how do you see it going

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 3
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 4

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas by 7
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 9

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's  by 4
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 11, 2019, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 11, 2019, 02:59:31 PM
Championship Predictions, how do you see it going

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 3
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 4

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas by 7
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 9

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's  by 4
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 5

Cushendall  by 3
Dunloy by 4

Endas by 7
Carey by 2 ( sars minus mckernan and mcguinness ill back carey for the upset)

St pauls by 3
Gorts by 8
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 11, 2019, 04:44:10 PM
Cushendall v St Johns - St Johns
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Not calling this game at all lol

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts

my bold prediction for the johnnies to get the win they have been probably deserving this past few years. Its their best chance ever to get over the line against Cdall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Ah sure you're clear favourites DR lol.

If Watson is firing and mcnaughton too then they will rattle you. I think loughgiel much better than last year but Dunloy still favourites.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
All ticket game on Sunday??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 11, 2019, 11:58:09 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 11, 2019, 02:59:31 PM
Championship Predictions, how do you see it going

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 3
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 4

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas by 7
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 9

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's  by 4
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 5

Dall by 6
Loughgiel by 2
Endas by 2
Sarsfields by 3
St Paul's and gorts win handy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2019, 09:12:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Ah sure you're clear favourites DR lol.

If Watson is firing and mcnaughton too then they will rattle you. I think loughgiel much better than last year but Dunloy still favourites.

TBF none of the teams in the semi final have played that well. everyone has done enough to get the job done. It almost seems as they havent been pushed that hard to show their full hands.

I got big and bold last year and thought we would win, and win in some style at that!  ::) i was well reminded about the result after it by my Lgiel friends and it hurt bad lol i learned my lesson from that so this time im saying nothing other than waiting to see how it goes on the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on September 12, 2019, 09:18:34 AM
I see a St Enda's man is ref in 1 of the IHC semi finals.

Is the right thing to do with his club involved ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 12, 2019, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2019, 04:44:10 PM
Cushendall v St Johns - St Johns
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Not calling this game at all lol

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts

my bold prediction for the johnnies to get the win they have been probably deserving this past few years. Its their best chance ever to get over the line against Cdall.


Just wondering why you would think this is their best chance? Also regarding ref, skinny is in cushendall match so it's the same thing. Personally I fell that if your home team is involved you shouldn't be allowed!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on September 12, 2019, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 11, 2019, 02:59:31 PM
Championship Predictions, how do you see it going

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 3
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 4

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas by 7
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 9

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's  by 4
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 5

St Johns by 2
Dunloy by 5

St Endas by 5
Sarsfields by 9

St Pauls by 5
Gorts by 9
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 12, 2019, 09:47:57 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on September 12, 2019, 09:18:34 AM
I see a St Enda's man is ref in 1 of the IHC semi finals.

Is the right thing to do with his club involved ?

I'd be objecting to it if it was my team but we might not have enough top level referees available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hirty Darry on September 12, 2019, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 11, 2019, 02:59:31 PM
Championship Predictions, how do you see it going

Cushendall v St Johns - Cushendall by 10 (St Johns to put up a challenge for 40 mins - ill-discipline to kick in and finish with 13/14 men)
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Dunloy by 10+ (Dunloy have comfortably dealt with Loughgiel any time they have met this season without applying maximum pressure - Dunloy to show their full potential and make a big statement)

St Endas v Glenariffe - This will be closer than people think (St Endas just may sneak by 2)
Carey v Sarsfields - Again, this one will be close (Carey to prevail by 2)

Glenarm v St Paul's - Glenarm under estimated here and have improved significantly as the season has progressed - St Pauls by 3 though)
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts by 10+ (Div 3 Champions and should have no issues)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 12, 2019, 11:13:25 AM
Quote from: Hurlingballs on September 12, 2019, 09:38:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 11, 2019, 04:44:10 PM
Cushendall v St Johns - St Johns
Dunloy v Loughgiel - Not calling this game at all lol

St Endas v Glenariffe - St Endas
Carey v Sarsfields - Sarsfields

Glenarm v St Paul's - St Paul's
Rasharkin v Gort Na Mona - Gorts

my bold prediction for the johnnies to get the win they have been probably deserving this past few years. Its their best chance ever to get over the line against Cdall.


Just wondering why you would think this is their best chance? Also regarding ref, skinny is in cushendall match so it's the same thing. Personally I fell that if your home team is involved you shouldn't be allowed!!

what ive seen of Cdall this year they have been well below par. they have missed AG at the back, NMcM was injured for a while at the wrong time of the year. that and their bench was very very light for the Rossa game with lads who haven't hurled all year. they arent the team they were the past few seasons.

St Johns should of beat them two years in a row and were the better team on each occasion but just lacked the finishing touch to get the job over the line. Its just my opinion mind you, but they are in a better place and get my nod.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
Carson really pulled cushendall through last year. They were lucky against St Johns in the replay I thought. Is carson there this year? Graffin a big loss though the Burkes not too shabby.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 13, 2019, 01:37:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 12, 2019, 09:12:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 11, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Ah sure you're clear favourites DR lol.

If Watson is firing and mcnaughton too then they will rattle you. I think loughgiel much better than last year but Dunloy still favourites.

TBF none of the teams in the semi final have played that well. everyone has done enough to get the job done. It almost seems as they havent been pushed that hard to show their full hands.

I got big and bold last year and thought we would win, and win in some style at that!  ::) i was well reminded about the result after it by my Lgiel friends and it hurt bad lol i learned my lesson from that so this time im saying nothing other than waiting to see how it goes on the day.
;D cards very close to chest here.    St Johns by 3. Draw. 
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2019, 10:04:01 PM
Not much in the junior game this evening. One point win for St. Paul's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
St Enda's v Carey in IHC final.

Some suspect refereeing in the Endas v Oisins match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2019, 12:33:40 AM
Can't see anything other than four wins for the Belfast teams in the junior and intermediate semifinals

An All NA IHC final and 2 Cushendall men against each other on the sideline to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 14, 2019, 05:16:06 PM
Spreading the gospel according to Ruairi óg!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2019, 12:33:40 AM
Can't see anything other than four wins for the Belfast teams in the junior and intermediate semifinals

An All NA IHC final and 2 Cushendall men against each other on the sideline to.

You stirring  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 14, 2019, 05:24:39 PM
Thought the referee done well, Couldve issued a few yellows possible reds both ways but was quite fair in keeping the cards away
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 14, 2019, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2019, 12:33:40 AM
Can't see anything other than four wins for the Belfast teams in the junior and intermediate semifinals

An All NA IHC final and 2 Cushendall men against each other on the sideline to.


Very very harsh red for Carey today, changed the game in favour of sarsfields but great steel to go and beat Sarsfields in their back yard, and a man down for a long period.

Sambo has previously said he was only concerned about Sarsfields in the IHC so final should be a foregone conclusion.
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2019, 05:54:55 PM
Sure just pin that up in the dressing room ;D
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Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2019, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 14, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 14, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 11, 2019, 12:33:40 AM
Can't see anything other than four wins for the Belfast teams in the junior and intermediate semifinals

An All NA IHC final and 2 Cushendall men against each other on the sideline to.

You stirring  ;D

Pardon? 😉😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 14, 2019, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2019, 05:55:28 PM
Sarsfields' back yard....wash yer mouth out.  >:(
Definitely a neutral venue  ;D Is there a gate or do you make them come the long way round?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 14, 2019, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 14, 2019, 05:55:28 PM
Sarsfields' back yard....wash yer mouth out.  >:(
Same townland...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2019, 07:40:13 AM
Club Aontroma forms being handed out yesterday, surely it's time to get behind this like any normal county. And when I'm at it curly and the boys need regular contributions from us as punters not just sporadic club donations, just set up the standing order for the price of a couple of coffees a month.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 15, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
I'd go a step further. The county should allocate a sizeable annual contribution to Saffron Gael..in effect they have a private firm doing their PR and Marketing, and not only that, do it exceptionally well. They're certainly not making money out of the venture atm, and need all the support possible to make this sustainable.

The biggest value is the promotion of our games to the next generation. How can you put a price on this??



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 15, 2019, 10:39:00 AM
Fair point Bannside
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 15, 2019, 10:49:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 15, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
I'd go a step further. The county should allocate a sizeable annual contribution to Saffron Gael..in effect they have a private firm doing their PR and Marketing, and not only that, do it exceptionally well. They're certainly not making money out of the venture atm, and need all the support possible to make this sustainable.

The biggest value is the promotion of our games to the next generation. How can you put a price on this??

100%
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Post by: paddyjohn on September 15, 2019, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: bannside on September 15, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
I'd go a step further. The county should allocate a sizeable annual contribution to Saffron Gael..in effect they have a private firm doing their PR and Marketing, and not only that, do it exceptionally well. They're certainly not making money out of the venture atm, and need all the support possible to make this sustainable.

The biggest value is the promotion of our games to the next generation. How can you put a price on this??

You've never made a more sensible point BS. Curly, Paddy & the crew do a fantastic job.
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Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2019, 11:34:17 AM
It generates so much enthusiasm- particularly when you're not from clubs involved. A huge asset and I would be surprised were there anything as good in any county in Ireland. I hope at some stage they get national recognition. (Teamtalk in Tyrone supposed to be very good too).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 15, 2019, 02:09:28 PM
We need to get a club to sponsor this motion at next years convention. Simple as!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 15, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
And a draw!!
Back to colaiste feirste on Wed night ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 15, 2019, 03:42:59 PM
naw, sure it would be too much advantage to the jonnies, home training pitch, previous champo experience on it, etc

the bog warriors would be up in arms.

PSS I reckon the keepers could score from the puck out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
heard 2 or 3 different venues on the way home for that replay. between colaiste feirste, Ballymena for a weds night and then our own pitch this weekend.

Either way St johns will yet again be kicking themselves they didn't get it over the line. Fair play to Cdall as they looked dead and buried but they got the draw at the end. It was a game that went one way and then back again esp in the first half. Cdall were well in control and then St Johns hit 6 unanswered scores to get back in it again.

As for our game, thank god its over. I swear you dont need anymore games like that in a season lol

i wont lie, i was very quietly confident we would get the job done this time. last year was a real learning curve for our team and Lgiel taught them a lesson that day. It was made harder work than we needed to at the end up as with 4 points to the good we should of seen that game out. But fair dues to Lgiel, they could of got a goal at the end up.

a tough game and a good contest between the teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
heard 2 or 3 different venues on the way home for that replay. between colaiste feirste, Ballymena for a weds night and then our own pitch this weekend.

Either way St johns will yet again be kicking themselves they didn't get it over the line. Fair play to Cdall as they looked dead and buried but they got the draw at the end. It was a game that went one way and then back again esp in the first half. Cdall were well in control and then St Johns hit 6 unanswered scores to get back in it again.

As for our game, thank god its over. I swear you dont need anymore games like that in a season lol

i wont lie, i was very quietly confident we would get the job done this time. last year was a real learning curve for our team and Lgiel taught them a lesson that day. It was made harder work than we needed to at the end up as with 4 points to the good we should of seen that game out. But fair dues to Lgiel, they could of got a goal at the end up.

a tough game and a good contest between the teams.

Brendan McTaggart seems to think its next Sunday at 1pm in Dunloy.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 16, 2019, 09:07:48 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 16, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
heard 2 or 3 different venues on the way home for that replay. between colaiste feirste, Ballymena for a weds night and then our own pitch this weekend.

Either way St johns will yet again be kicking themselves they didn't get it over the line. Fair play to Cdall as they looked dead and buried but they got the draw at the end. It was a game that went one way and then back again esp in the first half. Cdall were well in control and then St Johns hit 6 unanswered scores to get back in it again.

As for our game, thank god its over. I swear you dont need anymore games like that in a season lol

i wont lie, i was very quietly confident we would get the job done this time. last year was a real learning curve for our team and Lgiel taught them a lesson that day. It was made harder work than we needed to at the end up as with 4 points to the good we should of seen that game out. But fair dues to Lgiel, they could of got a goal at the end up.

a tough game and a good contest between the teams.

Big difference in Dunloy conditioning this year - last year there were a few light boys - this year  they have become men. Loughgiel need to say goodbye to their All Ireland generation and move on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 16, 2019, 10:29:32 AM
i had heard that as well from a few people that Lgiel need to have a clear out and allow that good group of minors to blend in. they need time to bed in and it could take a few years but they will come good.

Still think Liam Watson has a place to play for. he hurled well in at 14 and was a real handful in there. hit a peace of a point in front of us that was top drawer.

Our lads have improved from last year and its showing in their physical shape now. still a lot more to come from them all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
Found both games really negative yesterday with all 4 teams playing some form of sweeper system. We got 2 goals, one from the worst poc out I've ever seen. So across 2 matches only really 1 goal created and scored from good open play. With the quality of forwards on show you'd have expected more goals than that. Dunloy's to loose at this stage...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2019, 10:52:58 AM
I would say in truth two poor enough games.

Exciting as they were, it was more for the scorelines than the standard.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on September 16, 2019, 10:57:08 AM
Was it a shock for Faughs to win? Were they not big underdogs going into it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 16, 2019, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.
If you were Jamie Bryson you would think there's a bit of editorial direction to do so but I think its just him, as a wee bit of controversy gets more hits and raises his own profile. Thats the media game. Stick to the Saffron Gael for the real story.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.

Thought St. John's got a few handy frees. The thing with Watson and the corner back was a bit of handbags. Nothing in it worth talking about. He can still take a score when he gets a chance. Pity the other Loughgiel forwards didn't support him. Dunloy had a far better spread of scores and more options up front and that was the difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.

Thought St. John's got a few handy frees. The thing with Watson and the corner back was a bit of handbags. Nothing in it worth talking about. He can still take a score when he gets a chance. Pity the other Loughgiel forwards didn't support him. Dunloy had a far better spread of scores and more options up front and that was the difference.

A few handy frees? Quite alot...

Watson still has it surely..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.

Thought St. John's got a few handy frees. The thing with Watson and the corner back was a bit of handbags. Nothing in it worth talking about. He can still take a score when he gets a chance. Pity the other Loughgiel forwards didn't support him. Dunloy had a far better spread of scores and more options up front and that was the difference.

A few handy frees? Quite alot...

Watson still has it surely..
Was trying to be diplomatic... But yeah, quite a lot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.

Thought St. John's got a few handy frees. The thing with Watson and the corner back was a bit of handbags. Nothing in it worth talking about. He can still take a score when he gets a chance. Pity the other Loughgiel forwards didn't support him. Dunloy had a far better spread of scores and more options up front and that was the difference.

A few handy frees? Quite alot...

Watson still has it surely..
Was trying to be diplomatic... But yeah, quite a lot.

No point being diplomatic.. I'd love to see a re run and do a free count.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 16, 2019, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 16, 2019, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.
If you were Jamie Bryson you would think there's a bit of editorial direction to do so but I think its just him, as a wee bit of controversy gets more hits and raises his own profile. Thats the media game. Stick to the Saffron Gael for the real story.


Ah come on Sidebottom isn't one for raising his own profile in fairness, doesent have Twitter or Facebook profiles as far as I know and he's well enough known at this stage in Gaa circles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 02:46:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 16, 2019, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 16, 2019, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.
If you were Jamie Bryson you would think there's a bit of editorial direction to do so but I think its just him, as a wee bit of controversy gets more hits and raises his own profile. Thats the media game. Stick to the Saffron Gael for the real story.


Ah come on Sidebottom isn't one for raising his own profile in fairness, doesent have Twitter or Facebook profiles as far as I know and he's well enough known at this stage in Gaa circles.

Have you ever been at a Gala dinner with him as MC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 16, 2019, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on September 16, 2019, 10:57:08 AM
Was it a shock for Faughs to win? Were they not big underdogs going into it?


I don't think it was a massive shock because there is a fair bit of talent in that carey squad and we all know that league form goes out the window come championship and i honestly think although st endas will start the final as massive favourites carey could well upset the odds
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Post by: Pearse Blue on September 16, 2019, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 16, 2019, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on September 16, 2019, 10:57:08 AM
Was it a shock for Faughs to win? Were they not big underdogs going into it?


I don't think it was a massive shock because there is a fair bit of talent in that carey squad and we all know that league form goes out the window come championship and i honestly think although st endas will start the final as massive favourites carey could well upset the odds
If the Faughs did get through St Endas surely it would be one of the first times the Antrim club wouldn't be the favourite for the Ulster Intermediate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 16, 2019, 04:10:46 PM
Well if st endas won and your saying saying they would be favourites for Ulster then surely if carey beat them.then they would have to be favourites not that it would matter because being given a favourite tag does not win you anything  it guts passion desire work rate hunger and never giving up that wins you championships and I think that carey team showed all of the above on Saturday.
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Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 16, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Being diplomatic as always, I'm sure skinny won't be the referee in the replay.

By the way. We'll done M...   Dunloy. Congrats.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on September 16, 2019, 12:28:33 PM
Good highlights of yesterday's matches on the BBC website. Mark Sidebottom critical of both referees during the commentary.

Out of all the good points yesterday, Sidebottom/BBC had to include the incident with Watson and the corner back.

Two very enjoyable games, I thought Cushendall had the beating of St Johns when the half time whistle blew. St Johns took their chances from placed balls and fair play.

I thought Dunloy were well worth their victory.

Thought St. John's got a few handy frees. The thing with Watson and the corner back was a bit of handbags. Nothing in it worth talking about. He can still take a score when he gets a chance. Pity the other Loughgiel forwards didn't support him. Dunloy had a far better spread of scores and more options up front and that was the difference.

A few handy frees? Quite alot...

Watson still has it surely..
Was trying to be diplomatic... But yeah, quite a lot.

No point being diplomatic.. I'd love to see a re run and do a free count.
Can't give you the total free count but scorable frees McManus 0-4 from 5. Nugent 0-11 from 12.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: As I see it on September 16, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Skinny made a few poor calls but Dall were appealing for absolutely everything a lot of them were frees through silly tackles ,every time someone got ball in hand they were shouting steps or every hand pass they were calling for a throw,Dall should have pushed on when 8 up then the poor calls would have been irrelevant.
Dunloy learnt lessons from last year and were better team ,molloy took a lot of abuse and was unlucky not to have been awarded more frees Loughguile seemed to get them handier at the other end
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 16, 2019, 10:29:46 PM
Refereeing in 2nd game was pretty poor to be honest giving frees when the advantage was the better option namely bringing a free back to the 21 for a foul on w**ker when the advantage had young mc grath scoring a goal giving hop balls when the ball had been worked out and not having the cahoneys to put Watson off who had a good game but if it wasnt seen by umpires or linesman and he didn't see it then what can he do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 17, 2019, 12:50:20 PM
Well done to Sambo on his induction into the GAA Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 17, 2019, 12:57:20 PM
https://twitter.com/andyirishnews/status/1173910997205209088?s=12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 17, 2019, 10:37:15 PM
Well done sambo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 18, 2019, 10:49:17 AM
Well deserved sambo. He has put some hours into hurling over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 19, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
I hear the minor and intermediate finals are a double header next Saturday in cushendall
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 22, 2019, 06:33:44 AM
I'm just in home from work, wind and rain shacking and will have a major impact on the game, going to be a dogfight!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 23, 2019, 08:20:03 AM
Surely to god a team should not have home advantage in a county final ridiculous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 23, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 23, 2019, 08:20:03 AM
Surely to god a team should not have home advantage in a county final ridiculous
Loughgiel must've requested it. Cushendall not the big stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2019, 08:31:37 AM
are you talking about the minor match? if so then both teams agreed to this apparently.

I dont see the big deal to be honest as Loughgiel have been the form team all year and will take some beating at Minor level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 23, 2019, 09:15:08 AM
I doubt that loughgiel requested it but yes maybe had to agree to it cos the county want the crowd there for the cameras
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2019, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 23, 2019, 09:15:08 AM
I doubt that loughgiel requested it but yes maybe had to agree to it cos the county want the crowd there for the cameras

well it was a loughgiel person that told me they were happy with it being there. It wont make any difference to the cameras as it wont be shown on TG4, its only the senior game thats live and id say going by the crowd there yesterday at the replay the game will have a large crowd at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
Fair play to Dunloy yesterday, absolutely superb organisation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 23, 2019, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
Fair play to Dunloy yesterday, absolutely superb organisation.

Definately full Marks to the Dunloy boys for organisation, was a serious crowd there.

Only thing that was a bit of a nuisance yesterday was the big tail back to get tickets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2019, 11:18:43 AM
thats a complete hash there the one van to get tickets. its not good enough for a big game like that and the queue that was there for tickets was one that everyone could of predicted.

they need to sort something else out or get another van.

hopefully theres a pre sale of tickets this week cause that wont work this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on September 23, 2019, 11:19:51 AM
At this stage everyone knows about the ticket van on the way into championship matches. It isn't like a league game that you dander into 3 minutes before throw in. Game should have started on time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2019, 11:59:57 AM
Why not have a night in the clubs like previous times?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2019, 12:05:05 PM
there will be a pre sale this week in the clubs. thank god cause i couldnt be assed with that sort of queue on sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2019, 04:06:48 PM
Prices for Sunday

Adults £10
Concessions £8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2019, 08:40:32 AM
Imagine, all the people, secure online tickets and easy access to the grounds.

I wonder the reasons against buying our tickets online, and printing at home or showing ticket on phone for entry ?

Seems to be quite popular and widely used, all that's needed by the gatepersons is a mobile phone to scan the etickets.

The existing machines in the van or the boot of a car could be used in conjunction for those without access to a smartphone, tablet, printer or smartphone.

I.e.  300 million worldwide online events in 2017
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/organizer/overview/
https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/whats-on/Belfast
2% + 40p commission
Cash to bank, no cash security measures at grounds
No cash counting...

Pss Even the entry numbers could be verified for safety monitoring...

Ps2 john lennon was right

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on September 24, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 24, 2019, 08:40:32 AM
Imagine, all the people, secure online tickets and easy access to the grounds.

I wonder the reasons against buying our tickets online, and printing at home or showing ticket on phone for entry ?

Seems to be quite popular and widely used, all that's needed by the gatepersons is a mobile phone to scan the etickets.

The existing machines in the van or the boot of a car could be used in conjunction for those without access to a smartphone, tablet, printer or smartphone.

I.e.  300 million worldwide online events in 2017
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/organizer/overview/
https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/whats-on/Belfast
2% + 40p commission
Cash to bank, no cash security measures at grounds
No cash counting...

Pss Even the entry numbers could be verified for safety monitoring...

Ps2 john lennon was right

I think Derry GAA have an app for buying tickets - buy ticket and it gets scanned from phone at turnstile as you go in.

There is a normal ticket station open then for cash also. 

Maybe more suitable for younger people, not being agest but cuts down on queues.  Problem is, like Antrim s/f replay, big crowd expected but queuing is hopeless.  Antrim GAA need to be prepared.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 24, 2019, 09:37:20 AM
Quote from: marty34 on September 24, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: bogieman on September 24, 2019, 08:40:32 AM
Imagine, all the people, secure online tickets and easy access to the grounds.

I wonder the reasons against buying our tickets online, and printing at home or showing ticket on phone for entry ?

Seems to be quite popular and widely used, all that's needed by the gatepersons is a mobile phone to scan the etickets.

The existing machines in the van or the boot of a car could be used in conjunction for those without access to a smartphone, tablet, printer or smartphone.

I.e.  300 million worldwide online events in 2017
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/organizer/overview/
https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/whats-on/Belfast
2% + 40p commission
Cash to bank, no cash security measures at grounds
No cash counting...

Pss Even the entry numbers could be verified for safety monitoring...

Ps2 john lennon was right

I think Derry GAA have an app for buying tickets - buy ticket and it gets scanned from phone at turnstile as you go in.

There is a normal ticket station open then for cash also. 

Maybe more suitable for younger people, not being agest but cuts down on queues.  Problem is, like Antrim s/f replay, big crowd expected but queuing is hopeless.  Antrim GAA need to be prepared.

Lets be fair to them on this one, it is obviously going to take a bit of time to get the system perfect. Also if people would turn up in time for a match it wouldnt be as big an issue. We know the system now or at least we should do.

No harm is developing an app or having more pre-sales available but there will always be a need to have tickets for sale on the day in cash.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 24, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
reminds me of a good question
Q. when is the best time to plant a tree ?
2 answers by the way

(https://i.imgur.com/RWRekph.png)


even has parking included...

there is no need to "develop" an app





A. 15 years ago, and today...









Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 26, 2019, 11:24:56 PM
So no Belfast ticket stalls? Is there no hurling fans in Belfast or what's the craic? Surely a ticket stall in casement would be ideal?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 26, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
Usually only have a ticket stall at the club's involved and no city teams involved hence no city ticket stalls quite simple really. Any thoughts on the weekends finals folks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrollysArmy on September 27, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 26, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
Usually only have a ticket stall at the club's involved and no city teams involved hence no city ticket stalls quite simple really. Any thoughts on the weekends finals folks

Well there are two teams involved and more than 2 clubs have selling stalls. What you have highlighted to is one of the long lasting problems of Antrim GAA. City teams and country teams. We are one county, tickets should be made available to everyone in the county not just a certain part of the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2019, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: BrollysArmy on September 27, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 26, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
Usually only have a ticket stall at the club's involved and no city teams involved hence no city ticket stalls quite simple really. Any thoughts on the weekends finals folks

Well there are two teams involved and more than 2 clubs have selling stalls. What you have highlighted to is one of the long lasting problems of Antrim GAA. City teams and country teams. We are one county, tickets should be made available to everyone in the county not just a certain part of the county

Eh the other 2 are the minor finalists who are playing before the senior game. Stop greeting ffs and I'll see you in Ballycastle on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2019, 08:38:09 AM
Quote from: BrollysArmy on September 27, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Straighttalker76 on September 26, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
Usually only have a ticket stall at the club's involved and no city teams involved hence no city ticket stalls quite simple really. Any thoughts on the weekends finals folks

Well there are two teams involved and more than 2 clubs have selling stalls. What you have highlighted to is one of the long lasting problems of Antrim GAA. City teams and country teams. We are one county, tickets should be made available to everyone in the county not just a certain part of the county

To be fair the 4 teams involved are all having ticket sales nights. its nothing to do with country v city.

if your going down that nonsensical route then im sure i should complain about not being able to buy a ticket for the football final at a pre-sale night at my club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 27, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
what football final ?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 27, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 27, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
what football final ?

Exactly lol at this rate there wont be one if they draw again in this replay/replay  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2019, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 27, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: bogieman on September 27, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
what football final ?

Exactly lol at this rate there wont be one if they draw again in this replay/replay  ;D

Don't let that distract you from the proper match on Sunday  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 27, 2019, 03:37:12 PM
Championship Finals weekend, how do we see them going.

Dunloy (4/7) v Cushendall (7/4)

Can't call this game had favoured Dunloy but as the week goes on I'm leaving more towards the Ruairi's. Will go for a draw.

St Endas (1/3) v Carey (12/5)

St Endas in this one for me, can't see past them even though Carey has the result of the championship so far in last round. St Endas by 6

Gort Na Mona (4/9) v St Paul's (15/8)

Having seen both sides in semi final action it has to be Gorts for the win here to cap off an impressive year. Gorts by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 27, 2019, 05:38:25 PM
Gorts by 6

Carey by 4

Dunloy by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on September 27, 2019, 06:20:38 PM
Hope to see a great game in cushendall tomorrow, could go either way but St Endas big favourites after a fantastic league campaign. 

Hoping that the referee gives decent protection to Rocket as he's targeted every game by opposition and nothing has been done about it in the championship to date. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 28, 2019, 03:52:22 PM
Quote from: farset on September 28, 2019, 09:12:13 AM
Tomorrow's final has all the potential to be a classic. Hard to look beyond Dunloy but no better team than the battle hardened Dall to cause an upset. Dunloy very impressive all year. I wouldn't rule out a draw if I'm honest. The Dall lads have been there before.

It's St Endas' to lose in the Intermediate. Can't see Carey beating them. What a moment that will be for the hard work that St Enda's have put in over all the years in juvenile to see them be promoted and to win an Intermediate in the one year. Their progress has been a joy to watch and good luck to them. Have to feel for Carey always though. How many intermediate finals have they lost? Good people in Ballyvoy. Would be great to see them win one but just can't see it.

The junior should be a foregone conclusion. Gorts aren't a junior club and bit cheeky of them to claim this as any major success if and when they do win it (akin to my arguments about St Enda's in the football last year) . To score 30 points or so in the semi final V Rasharkin is evidence that they're in the wrong championship. And to think what a proud hurling club they used to be. They've been in junior final 2 out of the last 3 years now and won handy last time around. Looks like an easy option for me. They're kidding themselves and I'm sure the elders in the club are a bit embarrassed with a hallow championship win. St Paul's genuinely a junior club and I wish them well but can't see anything apart from a Gort annihilation. St Paul's have a dodgy full back line and a very dodgy goalkeeper. Gort strong up there so it'll be a goal fest.

Gorts won't be good enough to win Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 29, 2019, 02:06:09 PM
Fantastic news Antrim final on TV bad news people from antrim can't watch it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2019, 03:19:22 PM
Dunloy taking too many shots!! Cushendall working better with the conditions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 29, 2019, 03:35:36 PM
2 soft goals equalling things out almost. If Dunloy can get their shooting boots on in the second half and keep the ball moving, I'd fancy them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 29, 2019, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 29, 2019, 02:06:09 PM
Fantastic news Antrim final on TV bad news people from antrim can't watch it

Why? I'm watching it here in Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 29, 2019, 06:08:35 PM
Dunlop worthy winners although cushendall ran them very close and will regret the wife's that they had late on and also a couple of really good saves from Dunloy keeper and a hit post it could have been a different result but that being said duly had serious wife's in the first half themselves. Good game of hurling overall though.

Just a thought but I think the tv cameras would have been better off on the side of the pitch where the flags fly because nearly all the crowd were on the far side so the cameras would of had a good crowd in the backround and not just the loughgiel supporters who were the only supporters on that side is there a reason for this or what.

The .I or game was won by the better team although there  were 3 or 4 of the ballycastle lads who did not deserve to be on the losing side in particular the wee corner forward called Joe I think worked tirelessly all game. But what scenes on the side line we had the ballycastle manager throwing punches at a loughgiel mentor what sort of example is that to set for young men the mentors are supposed to be the adults for God's sake no coincidence that one of his players got sent off 2 minutes after that seeing the example set from the side line not the first time that mentor has been fighting on the side line at a juvenile game think he headbutted a .mentor at the field a few years ago maybe they should look into not letting people like that take juvenile teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 29, 2019, 06:14:37 PM
Which ones regret the wife's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 29, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
Wides
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 29, 2019, 06:52:01 PM
Wides
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 29, 2019, 08:08:46 PM
Dunloy clearly the better team and but for some bad wides in first half would have been more comfortable, Dall very dogged as usual but just didn't have the scoring power in the second half

What's the craic with grown men and air horns, moronic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 29, 2019, 08:25:13 PM
And smokebombs....

Anyway, Dunloy far better side over the 60mins. Shorty still a class act. Colm McDonald was very good also I thought, allowed the game to flow when possible. Could Cushendall of done anything different? I'm not so sure they could of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 29, 2019, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 29, 2019, 08:08:46 PM
Dunloy clearly the better team and but for some bad wides in first half would have been more comfortable, Dall very dogged as usual but just didn't have the scoring power in the second half

What's the craic with grown men and air horns, moronic
Air horns were very irritating on tv.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2019, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 29, 2019, 08:25:13 PM
And smokebombs....

Anyway, Dunloy far better side over the 60mins. Shorty still a class act. Colm McDonald was very good also I thought, allowed the game to flow when possible. Could Cushendall of done anything different? I'm not so sure they could of.

Colm had a brilliant game, plus his team worked well. Credit to both teams also who only had eyes for the ball (most parts)

Dunloy got the breaks when it mattered, had Nigel not scored before halftime it would have been a different game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 29, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
Paddy Magill should have been sent off for a wild pull towards the end
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2019, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 29, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
Paddy Magill should have been sent off for a wild pull towards the end

Yellow seemed the right call, others might've given red but that for me would have been harsh enough.

On the game I was thinking Dunloy would rue their wide count and playing Shorty deep would reduce their shooting from distance ability, but what would I know! Unlucky the Dall, they had a few chances to win this game but the one on one from Seann and the other well taken goal sealed it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on September 30, 2019, 01:04:25 PM
Congrats to Dunloy. Well deserved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: on the hop on September 30, 2019, 03:01:42 PM
Anybody got a spare programme from yesterday ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 02, 2019, 12:13:56 AM
How do we see our club winners faring in their respective Ulster and hopefully All Ireland campaigns. Could be a real cracker game with St Endas v Banagher at Owenbeg in the Intermediate quarter final and I'd expect the winner to go on and win Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 09:02:04 AM
Finally back to the real world again and work after the weekend.

First half we didn't play well and were contributing to it by making mistakes in the back line as well as some wayward shooting. the goal before half time was massive as it got us back into the game and knocking the wind out of Cdalls sails right at the break.

second half we kept plugging away and finally got our noses in front with the point by shorty and then Seaans goal.

If im truthful i thought we were the better team but you cant take anything from Cushendall. they showed why they were the current county champions. By Christ they are hard to beat.

Ballycran will be just as hard to beat in the semi finals. a near months wait to play the next game is a joke but what can you do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on October 02, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
DR if you don't beat Ballycran by 10 points I'll be surprised.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 11:16:48 AM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 02, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
DR if you don't beat Ballycran by 10 points I'll be surprised.

Should be a Dunloy V Slaughtneil Ulster Final - if it works out that way, where will final be? Armagh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 12:14:36 PM
To be fair its a knock out game so its one of them games that if your not at yourself you will end up losing.

On paper we should be winning and id be disappointed if we didnt win it but we can ill afford to be hitting 11 wides in one half esp if we are serious about progressing into a final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 02, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
DR if you don't beat Ballycran by 10 points I'll be surprised.

Ballycran were impressive enough in their Down win over a poor Portaferry outfit who never turned up.

Dunloy will rightly be favourites but if Ballycran show the same level of intelligence in their hurling they could get a bit closer than most will think.

Where is that semi-final going to be, Corrigan?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 01:20:47 PM
theres still no venue set for it whereas the other semi final is set for Armagh already.

I would of thought Corrigan would be a suitable venue for both sides rather a double header in Armagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 02, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: Jesusjones on October 02, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
DR if you don't beat Ballycran by 10 points I'll be surprised.

Ballycran were impressive enough in their Down win over a poor Portaferry outfit who never turned up.

Dunloy will rightly be favourites but if Ballycran show the same level of intelligence in their hurling they could get a bit closer than most will think.

Where is that semi-final going to be, Corrigan?

The semi final will be at Armagh. Second game of a double header with Slaughtneil v Middleton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 02, 2019, 01:23:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 01:20:47 PM
theres still no venue set for it whereas the other semi final is set for Armagh already.

I would of thought Corrigan would be a suitable venue for both sides rather a double header in Armagh

All fixture details released today. Here's the link

https://ulster.gaa.ie/2019/10/aib-ulster-club-hurling-championship-fixtures-2019/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
so the sensible approach wasn't taken.

ah well, its a double header and a chance to see two games for a neutral which is handy for everyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2019, 02:02:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
so the sensible approach wasn't taken.

ah well, its a double header and a chance to see two games for a neutral which is handy for everyone

What's the reason for the big delay in getting the semi finals played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
so the sensible approach wasn't taken.

ah well, its a double header and a chance to see two games for a neutral which is handy for everyone

27th?

All finalists are known. That's four weeks between county finals and Ulster semi-finals.

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 02:39:31 PM
Slaughtneil probably have football?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 02:45:20 PM
no idea at all. the Derry champs dont play in it till the 3rd of November in the Ulster football so the timing behind it makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 02, 2019, 03:39:55 PM
After watching the two semifinals I thought Dunloy would win it outright. Cushendall got a lucky goal in the first half and the score line slightly flattered them at that stage as Dunloy were doing most of the hurling.

I wonder where Cushendall would be at without McManus he's a serious hurler. The young skinny corner forward I think his name is Delargy looks a good prospect.

Ulster not that easy to predict. I expect a big drive from Slaughtneil this year they seem very focused on their preparations.

I thought the half time break was very long for the players. Also thought TNAG should have had the cameras set up on the opposite side of the field. At least you would see the huge crowd with Fairhead and Knocklayde in the background.

Can't forget to mention the referee I thought he done a good job. As for the Dunloy keeper he made up for his mistake with a couple of great second half saves.

Any team that can beat Cushendall are very good. That's why I think Ulster will be well represented in the semifinals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 02:45:20 PM
no idea at all. the Derry champs dont play in it till the 3rd of November in the Ulster football so the timing behind it makes no sense at all.

But they have semi-final this week-end and the county final, if they win, after that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

The camogie thing takes me to the cleaners.

Clonduff won the AI intermediate title and are still in the Ulster intermediate grade.

How does that work?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

True DR but it's probably best way. Dual clubs should be supported.

I'm not sure what way it was last year or year before. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

The camogie thing takes me to the cleaners.

Clonduff won the AI intermediate title and are still in the Ulster intermediate grade.

How does that work?

Strange alright. Grading is an issue.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 04:45:39 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

True DR but it's probably best way. Dual clubs should be supported.

I'm not sure what way it was last year or year before.

I do agree, coming from a dual club as well, but it does all seem to be badly planned out each year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 02, 2019, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

The camogie thing takes me to the cleaners.

Clonduff won the AI intermediate title and are still in the Ulster intermediate grade.

How does that work?

Senior in Ulster only has Antrim v Derry. No semis etc, just them two into a final.

Intermediate only has Down v Tyrone. same as above except its the two senior teams from each county who enter it.

Junior is a bit more messed up. the Antrim reps are the countys Intermediate champs, same with Down, Armagh etc. The Cavan senior champs etc

they have then a Junior B and then a shield comp as well.

Its a complete joke of a set up where teams win ulster (and potentially an all ireland) and stay in the same competition each year.

Clonduff should of moved up to senior but then it would leave Tyrone in limbo as intermediate on their own. Corsserlough from Cavan won Ulster Junior 2 years on the trot so Cavan should of moved up into intermediate but hey ho no one thought of all of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

The camogie thing takes me to the cleaners.

Clonduff won the AI intermediate title and are still in the Ulster intermediate grade.

How does that work?

Senior in Ulster only has Antrim v Derry. No semis etc, just them two into a final.

Intermediate only has Down v Tyrone. same as above except its the two senior teams from each county who enter it.

Junior is a bit more messed up. the Antrim reps are the countys Intermediate champs, same with Down, Armagh etc. The Cavan senior champs etc

they have then a Junior B and then a shield comp as well.

Its a complete joke of a set up where teams win ulster (and potentially an all ireland) and stay in the same competition each year.

Clonduff should of moved up to senior but then it would leave Tyrone in limbo as intermediate on their own. Corsserlough from Cavan won Ulster Junior 2 years on the trot so Cavan should of moved up into intermediate but hey ho no one thought of all of that.

In hurling there was a rule where if you won an Ulster, you were 'barred' from that competition for the next 5 years!!  Tough on smaller clubs etc.

Rule was relaxed, iirc, to maybe 2 years, a few years ago.  I stand to be corrected.

Funny if you look back at Kilkenny's club teams, who win their Junior and Intermediate etc., when they go up the following year, they are never far away.  Clara were a good example and there was another few teams who won or nearly won their championship, when they moved up the following year.

Maybe that means there's not much difference in their gradings at sen, int. and junior level.  Other counties seem to have a massive gap between them.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2019, 05:27:12 PM
Tyrone in the football were like that too where Trillick lost intermediate one year and won senior the next. I think it depends on the breadth in the county. In football and hurling in our county there is a big gap between the worst and the best in the championship. You wouldn't bet on very many teams winning the senior hurling but thankfully the number of potential winners in the senior  football is growing. You would say the same for all the championships in both codes.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on October 02, 2019, 10:30:52 PM
Dunloy should account for ballycran. Slaughtneil are a different animal. They schooled dunloy two years ago so will be intetesting to see what has changed if anything in two year.

St endas have a very tough quarterfinal draw against the 3rd? Best team in derry. If they can get over that game they could go on to win ulster. Maybe against keady in the final?

Only team who have any chance of stopping gort is coleraine but gort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 02, 2019, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: breakingball on October 02, 2019, 10:30:52 PM
Dunloy should account for ballycran. Slaughtneil are a different animal. They schooled dunloy two years ago so will be intetesting to see what has changed if anything in two year.

St endas have a very tough quarterfinal draw against the 3rd? Best team in derry. If they can get over that game they could go on to win ulster. Maybe against keady in the final?

Only team who have any chance of stopping gort is coleraine but gort.

Will be a Derry treble the year I'd say, Slaughtneil shoe in, banagher too cute, Coleraine aren't the side they were 3 years ago but should just shade it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 08:31:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on October 02, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 02, 2019, 04:22:39 PM
they do but thats not any concern for the other 3 teams at this stage who have to wait 4 weeks for another game.

its actually more farcical for the senior camogie finalist in Antrim who have to wait over a month to play their Ulster Final.

The camogie thing takes me to the cleaners.

Clonduff won the AI intermediate title and are still in the Ulster intermediate grade.

How does that work?

Senior in Ulster only has Antrim v Derry. No semis etc, just them two into a final.

Intermediate only has Down v Tyrone. same as above except its the two senior teams from each county who enter it.

Junior is a bit more messed up. the Antrim reps are the countys Intermediate champs, same with Down, Armagh etc. The Cavan senior champs etc

they have then a Junior B and then a shield comp as well.

Its a complete joke of a set up where teams win ulster (and potentially an all ireland) and stay in the same competition each year.

Clonduff should of moved up to senior but then it would leave Tyrone in limbo as intermediate on their own. Corsserlough from Cavan won Ulster Junior 2 years on the trot so Cavan should of moved up into intermediate but hey ho no one thought of all of that.

In hurling there was a rule where if you won an Ulster, you were 'barred' from that competition for the next 5 years!!  Tough on smaller clubs etc.

Rule was relaxed, iirc, to maybe 2 years, a few years ago.  I stand to be corrected.

Funny if you look back at Kilkenny's club teams, who win their Junior and Intermediate etc., when they go up the following year, they are never far away.  Clara were a good example and there was another few teams who won or nearly won their championship, when they moved up the following year.

Maybe that means there's not much difference in their gradings at sen, int. and junior level.  Other counties seem to have a massive gap between them.

The camogie set up doesnt seem to move with the trends of how teams are doing and esp the county teams. Down are stronger than Antrim and Derry at the moment yet thats not reflected in the club set up with the Down team winning an all ireland club title yet not moving up to senior.

The Cavan senior champions won the Ulster Junior title 2 years in a row and their representatives, Crosserlough (who won it the past 2 years) were back in the same competition for a 3rd time in a row.

Really doesnt make sense at all though the camogie set up never makes sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 03, 2019, 09:28:52 AM
Not much between Down and Derry in camogie DR.  They drew their last meeting in summer I think.

Antrim a bit behind but Antrim played a full Loughgiel team a couple of years ago.  No other clubs involved for some reason.  That's changed now but need a good mix of clubs involved to strengthen county.

I understand, in a way, the Cavan team.  They have no competition so no rule to move up.  As you say, they should try to push on at a higher level but success, to them, would be winning Ulster. 

Probably in camogie is there seems to be 1 really strong team in several counties and looks that way for the forseeable future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2019, 01:52:40 PM
Regardless of the reason, it is a bit of joke to have to wait a month between games at this late time of the year.
More reason to try and get some consensus on a fixture calendar that is to the benefit of clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 03, 2019, 09:28:52 AM
Not much between Down and Derry in camogie DR.  They drew their last meeting in summer I think.

Antrim a bit behind but Antrim played a full Loughgiel team a couple of years ago.  No other clubs involved for some reason.  That's changed now but need a good mix of clubs involved to strengthen county.

I understand, in a way, the Cavan team.  They have no competition so no rule to move up.  As you say, they should try to push on at a higher level but success, to them, would be winning Ulster. 

Probably in camogie is there seems to be 1 really strong team in several counties and looks that way for the forseeable future.

They seem to be more content in creating lesser competitions than trying to progress teams up hte way.

The Junior B championship was created last year which has the Donegal senior champs, Armagh intermediate, Monaghan senior, Cavan Intermediate and that goes through now to an All Ireland series.

I do think they do good work to promote the game and in Ulster but they really do get stagnant in terms of progressing counties who are improving - i.e. Down

Tho i do think that the Antrim Junior champions should be moving up to the Junior B rather than a shield where they currently are in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 03, 2019, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2019, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 03, 2019, 09:28:52 AM
Not much between Down and Derry in camogie DR.  They drew their last meeting in summer I think.

Antrim a bit behind but Antrim played a full Loughgiel team a couple of years ago.  No other clubs involved for some reason.  That's changed now but need a good mix of clubs involved to strengthen county.

I understand, in a way, the Cavan team.  They have no competition so no rule to move up.  As you say, they should try to push on at a higher level but success, to them, would be winning Ulster. 

Probably in camogie is there seems to be 1 really strong team in several counties and looks that way for the forseeable future.

They seem to be more content in creating lesser competitions than trying to progress teams up hte way.

The Junior B championship was created last year which has the Donegal senior champs, Armagh intermediate, Monaghan senior, Cavan Intermediate and that goes through now to an All Ireland series.

I do think they do good work to promote the game and in Ulster but they really do get stagnant in terms of progressing counties who are improving - i.e. Down

Tho i do think that the Antrim Junior champions should be moving up to the Junior B rather than a shield where they currently are in.

Not sure its a good thing to allow B teams or reserve teams to play outside their own county championships either.

Loughgiel camogs have a senior team and a junior team representing them in Ulster.

Then again the Camogie board allow that to happen at intercounty level, so they're consistent in their wrongness IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 03:18:38 PM
to be fair it is their second team that competes in the competition. there are some within antrim camogie who are doing their best to hinder Loughgiel and ourselves in more recent times in terms of trying to stop success.

Loughgiel are the standard we all have to get better than, simple as that. they have a good template that works in terms of youth development but theres some who would see the best way yo better them is to try and handicap them off the pitch rather than beat them on it.

we had this year the Antrim county board insist they grade 17 senior players and ourselves 15 while at the same time allowing everyone else at senior level to only grade 13 - as per the rules - for league games. thats not how to get better than a team, you do it on the pitch and off it through your own youth development and coaching.

Down to be fair have improved so so much and its good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 03, 2019, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2019, 03:18:38 PM
to be fair it is their second team that competes in the competition. there are some within antrim camogie who are doing their best to hinder Loughgiel and ourselves in more recent times in terms of trying to stop success.

Loughgiel are the standard we all have to get better than, simple as that. they have a good template that works in terms of youth development but theres some who would see the best way yo better them is to try and handicap them off the pitch rather than beat them on it.

we had this year the Antrim county board insist they grade 17 senior players and ourselves 15 while at the same time allowing everyone else at senior level to only grade 13 - as per the rules - for league games. thats not how to get better than a team, you do it on the pitch and off it through your own youth development and coaching.

Down to be fair have improved so so much and its good to see.

There's a far bigger spread of camogie clubs in Down than there is hurling, I'd say by a factor of 2 or 3. I've been to a few underage camogie blitzes in Down and you can't get moving at them.

All good to see.

A few NA men involved in Clonduff I see. Graffan married into the Carr's (pronounced quarr) and Yukker too, an ex Dunlodian.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 03, 2019, 04:58:14 PM
aye he is. he was over the Down side a few years ago that won a junior all ireland did he not?

We do have a good amount of camogie sides in antrim but belfast was really falling badly in the past number of season. Rossa really need to drop out of senior into intermediate and down to D2 as they are either not travelling to games or getting tanked. It serves no purpose for anyone.

St Johns are still a D2 side but have found the going tough with injuries and girls retiring.

That being said St Endas, sarsfields, st pauls etc are pushing on at under age level and getting the teams out by means of amalgamations with some country sides like Lor Mor & Glenavy so they can field together.

still a lot of hard work needed in terms of coaching in that code in the city to get it back around.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 09, 2019, 08:21:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 03, 2019, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 03, 2019, 03:18:38 PM
to be fair it is their second team that competes in the competition. there are some within antrim camogie who are doing their best to hinder Loughgiel and ourselves in more recent times in terms of trying to stop success.

Loughgiel are the standard we all have to get better than, simple as that. they have a good template that works in terms of youth development but theres some who would see the best way yo better them is to try and handicap them off the pitch rather than beat them on it.

we had this year the Antrim county board insist they grade 17 senior players and ourselves 15 while at the same time allowing everyone else at senior level to only grade 13 - as per the rules - for league games. thats not how to get better than a team, you do it on the pitch and off it through your own youth development and coaching.

Down to be fair have improved so so much and its good to see.

There's a far bigger spread of camogie clubs in Down than there is hurling, I'd say by a factor of 2 or 3. I've been to a few underage camogie blitzes in Down and you can't get moving at them.

All good to see.

A few NA men involved in Clonduff I see. Graffan married into the Carr's (pronounced quarr) and Yukker too, an ex Dunlodian.

Cushendall Manager Ciaran Kearney's married a girl down there recently too I believe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 10, 2019, 05:03:04 AM
Ulster campaigns throw in this weekend for St Endas in the Intermediate and Gort Na Mona in the junior, how do we see our (Antrim) teams doing.

I'm really looking forward to the St Endas game think it will be some battle and the winner will walk the rest. Banagher will be a tough nut to crack having just dropped down from Derry senior. Big difference of opinion with Paddy Power going St Endas 4/6 Banagher 6/4 and BoyleSports going St Endas 6/5 Banagher  8/11. As much as I don't like to say it I think Banagher are great bet with Paddy at 6/4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2019, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 10, 2019, 05:03:04 AM
Ulster campaigns throw in this weekend for St Endas in the Intermediate and Gort Na Mona in the junior, how do we see our (Antrim) teams doing.

I'm really looking forward to the St Endas game think it will be some battle and the winner will walk the rest. Banagher will be a tough nut to crack having just dropped down from Derry senior. Big difference of opinion with Paddy Power going St Endas 4/6 Banagher 6/4 and BoyleSports going St Endas 6/5 Banagher  8/11. As much as I don't like to say it I think Banagher are great bet with Paddy at 6/4

Hard to call st endas v Banagher. In the junior should be gorts but eunans will be far fitter team which might level it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2019, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2019, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 10, 2019, 05:03:04 AM
Ulster campaigns throw in this weekend for St Endas in the Intermediate and Gort Na Mona in the junior, how do we see our (Antrim) teams doing.

I'm really looking forward to the St Endas game think it will be some battle and the winner will walk the rest. Banagher will be a tough nut to crack having just dropped down from Derry senior. Big difference of opinion with Paddy Power going St Endas 4/6 Banagher 6/4 and BoyleSports going St Endas 6/5 Banagher  8/11. As much as I don't like to say it I think Banagher are great bet with Paddy at 6/4

Hard to call st endas v Banagher. In the junior should be gorts but eunans will be far fitter team which might level it

Very difficult to call, we were very lucky to come away with a win last year v Swatragh so the question would be, are Banagher better than Swatragh were last year and are St Endas better than us this year? 

I've seen St Endas a good few times this year, they are a lot stronger now than last year. Who's playing for Banagher? The Lynch's playing? Any county players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2019, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2019, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2019, 06:16:31 PM

Aye McCloskeys and big lynch et Al.
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 10, 2019, 05:03:04 AM
Ulster campaigns throw in this weekend for St Endas in the Intermediate and Gort Na Mona in the junior, how do we see our (Antrim) teams doing.

I'm really looking forward to the St Endas game think it will be some battle and the winner will walk the rest. Banagher will be a tough nut to crack having just dropped down from Derry senior. Big difference of opinion with Paddy Power going St Endas 4/6 Banagher 6/4 and BoyleSports going St Endas 6/5 Banagher  8/11. As much as I don't like to say it I think Banagher are great bet with Paddy at 6/4

Hard to call st endas v Banagher. In the junior should be gorts but eunans will be far fitter team which might level it

Very difficult to call, we were very lucky to come away with a win last year v Swatragh so the question would be, are Banagher better than Swatragh were last year and are St Endas better than us this year? 

I've seen St Endas a good few times this year, they are a lot stronger now than last year. Who's playing for Banagher? The Lynch's playing? Any county players?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 10, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
Have St Endas blow ins strengthened them ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 11, 2019, 08:08:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2019, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2019, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 10, 2019, 05:03:04 AM
Ulster campaigns throw in this weekend for St Endas in the Intermediate and Gort Na Mona in the junior, how do we see our (Antrim) teams doing.

I'm really looking forward to the St Endas game think it will be some battle and the winner will walk the rest. Banagher will be a tough nut to crack having just dropped down from Derry senior. Big difference of opinion with Paddy Power going St Endas 4/6 Banagher 6/4 and BoyleSports going St Endas 6/5 Banagher  8/11. As much as I don't like to say it I think Banagher are great bet with Paddy at 6/4

Hard to call st endas v Banagher. In the junior should be gorts but eunans will be far fitter team which might level it

Very difficult to call, we were very lucky to come away with a win last year v Swatragh so the question would be, are Banagher better than Swatragh were last year and are St Endas better than us this year? 

I've seen St Endas a good few times this year, they are a lot stronger now than last year. Who's playing for Banagher? The Lynch's playing? Any county players?

Banagher much stronger than Swa last year, not sure about yous v St Endas. Aye usual lads for Banagher-Lynch, McCloskeys etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 11, 2019, 08:52:27 AM
I'd say that Sticks is their main man. Not only that but has been easily the best football goalkeeper too in Derry these last 15 years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 11, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Any talk of you lads in Antrim moving to U11, U13, U15, U17 and U19 next year?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 11, 2019, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: bannside on October 11, 2019, 08:52:27 AM
I'd say that Sticks is their main man. Not only that but has been easily the best football goalkeeper too in Derry these last 15 years.

Great keeper in both codes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 11, 2019, 09:50:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 11, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
Any talk of you lads in Antrim moving to U11, U13, U15, U17 and U19 next year?

Here in Derry nothing has been decided, balls really as we have already formed our groups for next year based on old grades.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on October 11, 2019, 10:50:01 AM
I am hearing that it will change, seems to be common knowledge.

Just waiting on the county telling us offically. :-\ :( :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 11, 2019, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on October 11, 2019, 10:50:01 AM
I am hearing that it will change, seems to be common knowledge.

Just waiting on the county telling us offically. :-\ :( :o

Down CB have agreed to follow the directive from Croke Park to move to the new age groups Im led to believe.

I think Croke Park still have to rubber stamp this and I thought it was supposed to happen at this special congress but I see nothing on it's clar about it.

The likes of National Feile is staying U14 though.

Go games look to be moving up to U13 rather than down to U11.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on October 11, 2019, 03:29:14 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 10, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
Have St Endas blow ins strengthened them ?


Think its fair to say their new lads have certainly strengthened them, along with the return of some of their own boys. From what I seen last year there seems to be 4/5 new boys in the starting line up.

From the various reports the st endas lads seem to speak highly of sambo and seem to credit him with alot of the changes this year too.

On paper and from previous years Id say banagher are favourites and deserve their tag as so, a betting man would have to agree.

However I also feel this match could determine alot of the future for st endas, win and win ulster they'll be seen as team on the rise in div 1 next year, lose and theyll be viewed as an intermediate side for easy points and relagation.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2019, 03:49:45 PM
Well done St Endas, by all accounts the weather was horrendous and they did enough to get over the line, big Philly with an opportunist goal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 13, 2019, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2019, 03:49:45 PM
Well done St Endas, by all accounts the weather was horrendous and they did enough to get over the line, big Philly with an opportunist goal

Banagher no slouches and only for a mistake shouid have won, st endas to lose now.

Gorts struggled in letterkenny, won't be good enough to win this at that rate. Coleraine for junior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2019, 06:33:38 AM
I thought Banagher were the better team on the day.

The sideline cut was dropped by Sticks in the Banagher goal and flicked into the net by Philly Curran.

Sticks had been causing Endas problems with his long range poc outs and frees and was having a good game.

Up until the goal it looked like Banagher were going to win, especially as the first score of the second half came in the 17th minute of play.

The goal obviously revitalised Endas who pinged over a couple of points to seal a win that didn't look likely given their performance up until then.

Would have to question the 'wisdom' of the Ulster Council to schedule 2 matches on the same day on a heavy pitch which resulted in a lot of mistakes and missed pick ups.

Usually Owenbeg is in great shape but I think it has been over used recently with most of the football championship matches played there.

The first match was a complete mismatch and to be honest Mullahoran should never have been asked to play in an Ulster JHC until Cavan get their own house in order when it comes to hurling. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on October 14, 2019, 07:10:50 AM
Antrim treble in Ulster?
After yesterdays results I really do fancy it myself now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 14, 2019, 07:43:58 AM
Quote from: saffman on October 14, 2019, 07:10:50 AM
Antrim treble in Ulster?
After yesterdays results I really do fancy it myself now

Would be some achievement
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2019, 08:12:09 AM
I wouldnt rule out Slaughtneil.

By all accounts they are ready for Ulster and I think it will take a good team to stop them.

Dunloy have some unfinished business with them provided they get past Ballycran who would need to put up a much better show than they did v Cushendall last year when their free takers choked in front of the posts.

Intermediate is not a given either. Dungannon, Keady and Bredagh are all handy outfits and going by yesterday's performance Endas wouldn't set the heather on fire especially as they now play Bredagh who'll be well up for the challenge.

Same with Gorts. I wonder if they learned from their mistakes of a couple of years ago when they faced Setanta. Going by their showing that day, they totally underestimated their opponent and probably took them for granted.

Setanta absolutely ran them ragged with Danny Cullen all over the pitch. Gorts indiscipline cost them that day. I wonder if they went into their match with St Eunan's with the same attitude - if so it almost cost them.

Id go for Coleraine to take the junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2019, 08:13:21 AM
Coleraine will be far too strong for gorts . Dunloy will get it tough too but hopefully will win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 14, 2019, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 14, 2019, 08:13:21 AM
Coleraine will be far too strong for gorts . Dunloy will get it tough too but hopefully will win.

Their speech after their Derry final win was about getting to an All Ireland Final not an Ulster. They still believe that they left it behind them against Glenmore in 2016. I would say though they are possibly not as strong as they were then.  If Gorts met them 4 weeks ago id go for them, but ER have now 4-5 weeks of hurling under their belt.  Anyhow Gorts have to beat winners of Sean Traceys/Newry who wont roll over either.

Keady are the big threat now for St Endas. Powerful big men who brushed Setanta aside yesterday. Setanta started that game with 7 outsiders, all quality players and would have fancied themselves.

I just get a feeling Slaughtneil are not there mentally for an Ulster Campaign, but that is based on gut feeling really and nothing more than that. The defeat in the football against Glen hit them really hard.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on October 16, 2019, 02:35:06 PM
Any word on who Darren Gleeson is bringing in as part of his management team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2019, 04:01:12 PM
A mere 18 point win for Dunloy. Should be a very interesting final now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.

Banagher are a senior championship team - shouldn't be in Int. Ulster championship in my opinion.

Coleraine, at full strength, could be in Int. also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.

What's the aveage age of this team DR - Eoin O'Neill Koby and Molloy have filled out well - physically strong now. O'Neill was very good yesterday I thought.  Great understanding between the 3 of them.

Should be a big crowd at the final in 2 weeks I'd say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 28, 2019, 12:01:05 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Bredagh are a good side. It was a case on the day where both defences were solid and free takers stepped up to the mark. Endas won the first half 0-10 to 0-4 with a very strong breeze behind them. Second half Bredagh won it 0-10 to 0-4 with the breeze.

There was a point credited to Endas which did not go over the bar. It was a wide and one of the linesmen mentioned that to the referee via walkie talkie who ignored it. But Endas wont care. They're in an Ulster final and although they have come through 2 very tough battles, Im just not 100% convinced on them yet.

Dungannon will present a much tougher challenge and I reckon the final will be a poc of the ball between them with the free takers again coming to the fore, McGoldrick for Enda's and Casey for Dungannon.

The junior match was another mismatch. Inniskeen won the Ulster JHC a few years ago and I was expecting a lot more from them. Coleraine did what they had to do and always play well as a team. At the same time I still think they will take Newry Shamrocks.

Im surprised at Gorts though although one or two people are of the opinion they're a one man team, hit it into Dessie McClean and he'll do the rest.

The senior games went as predicted and the Ballycran lad who lashed out at Nigel Óg really let his side down as well as himself.

Although the Crans had a purple patch just before half time where they pinned Dunloy to 4 -5 points, it was going to take a monumental effort to overcome the CuChullains with 14 men in the second half.

Its easy to be seen that the Dunloy lads weights programme has yielded results. Their upper body strength was evident and a few of those lads have well filled out.

Dunloy and Slaughtneil should be a good final and the bookies wont be giving much away when it comes to setting the odds for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.

Banagher are a senior championship team - shouldn't be in Int. Ulster championship in my opinion.

Coleraine, at full strength, could be in Int. also.

Look, if they were senior level, they would have won easily. Derry only have 2 senior teams imo Lynches and Slaughtneil. Coleraine are intermediate level though. Anyhow Antrim have been playing intermediate sides in junior for years and Donegal have been playing their senior champions there. Only reason Setanta went to intermediate is coz they won it in 2016
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.

Yep they didn't win and that's it

Agreed it will be a good final, hard to call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.

Banagher are a senior championship team - shouldn't be in Int. Ulster championship in my opinion.

Coleraine, at full strength, could be in Int. also.

Look, if they were senior level, they would have won easily. Derry only have 2 senior teams imo Lynches and Slaughtneil. Coleraine are intermediate level though. Anyhow Antrim have been playing intermediate sides in junior for years and Donegal have been playing their senior champions there. Only reason Setanta went to intermediate is coz they won it in 2016

Banagher were in Derry finals a few times recently and didn't have to qualify recently - straight into semi-final.  Not fair on other clubs in Ulster when a 'senior team' drops down to Intermediate.  They are a senior championship team.

Re: Donegal teams - that's a different story - they're at a totally different club level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.

What's the aveage age of this team DR - Eoin O'Neill Koby and Molloy have filled out well - physically strong now. O'Neill was very good yesterday I thought.  Great understanding between the 3 of them.

Should be a big crowd at the final in 2 weeks I'd say.

Eoin, Coby, Keelan, Conor Kinsela are all the same age. think they are all 20. Ryan elliott is 22, think Ronan Molloy is 21 as is Eamon Smyth

Seaan elliott , Ryan McGarry Anton McGrath and Aaron crawford are 19

They would be possibly younger now than Sneill are now but i cant be sure
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 12:37:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on October 28, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Not convinced on St Endas, extra time with Bredagh and still struggled to dismantle them

Banagher have to be kicking themselves, should have beat St Endas to be fair.

Yeah they had their chance, you've got to get over the line though..

The final will be interesting, Keady would have been fancied but The Dungannon lads have upset the odds and will certainly come into the final against St Endas knowing their opposition very well having played them twice in the league this year. I ref'd one of these games and it will be close.

Banagher are a senior championship team - shouldn't be in Int. Ulster championship in my opinion.

Coleraine, at full strength, could be in Int. also.

Look, if they were senior level, they would have won easily. Derry only have 2 senior teams imo Lynches and Slaughtneil. Coleraine are intermediate level though. Anyhow Antrim have been playing intermediate sides in junior for years and Donegal have been playing their senior champions there. Only reason Setanta went to intermediate is coz they won it in 2016

Banagher were in Derry finals a few times recently and didn't have to qualify recently - straight into semi-final.  Not fair on other clubs in Ulster when a 'senior team' drops down to Intermediate.  They are a senior championship team.

Re: Donegal teams - that's a different story - they're at a totally different club level.

Donegal are playing same level as Derry and Armagh last few years to be honest, beat Derry last year in National league and pushed them all the way in Christy Ring this year. At the end of the day the Derry championship is now in its second year of the new format and a Derry team has not won the intermediate yet. Swatragh were beat by St Galls last year. Banagher were beat by Screen, lavey, Lynches and Slaughtneil in Derry this year(various competitions). Lavey put them down to Derry intermediate with a 6 point defeat and Slaughtneil put 20 points on Lavey.  St Galls last year an would easily be same level as Banagher. I think broadly they have pitched these competitions at right level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 28, 2019, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Sorry you are right. Strengthens my point however
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2019, 02:59:34 PM
its the only solution to sort out the teams who go through in Derry due to the limited amount of teams that they have that play hurling.

the last team to get to a final outside of the sides that are competing at the moment was Drum in 1990. Aside from that its been the same teams in the final for the last lot of years.

Is there only 8 clubs that compete in the hurling in Derry?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.

What's the aveage age of this team DR - Eoin O'Neill Koby and Molloy have filled out well - physically strong now. O'Neill was very good yesterday I thought.  Great understanding between the 3 of them.

Should be a big crowd at the final in 2 weeks I'd say.

Eoin, Coby, Keelan, Conor Kinsela are all the same age. think they are all 20. Ryan elliott is 22, think Ronan Molloy is 21 as is Eamon Smyth

Seaan elliott , Ryan McGarry Anton McGrath and Aaron crawford are 19

They would be possibly younger now than Sneill are now but i cant be sure

The Mageean Cup win was a great boost for them lads and iirc, they lost out after extra-time in the All-Ireland series.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Problem is teams will want to compete in intermediate as thry know they've very little chance of winning senior at the minute.

In Antrim would Rossa or Ballycastle be allowed to drop to intermediate after playing in senior championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Problem is teams will want to compete in intermediate as thry know they've very little chance of winning senior at the minute.

In Antrim would Rossa or Ballycastle be allowed to drop to intermediate after playing in senior championship?

Both teams compete at senior, Ballycastle when they were div 2 recently (on a couple of occasions) wouldn't have dropped out of senior, Rossa did and won the All Ireland (Antrim's first and only) intermediate final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 28, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.

What's the aveage age of this team DR - Eoin O'Neill Koby and Molloy have filled out well - physically strong now. O'Neill was very good yesterday I thought.  Great understanding between the 3 of them.

Should be a big crowd at the final in 2 weeks I'd say.

Eoin, Coby, Keelan, Conor Kinsela are all the same age. think they are all 20. Ryan elliott is 22, think Ronan Molloy is 21 as is Eamon Smyth

Seaan elliott , Ryan McGarry Anton McGrath and Aaron crawford are 19

They would be possibly younger now than Sneill are now but i cant be sure

The Mageean Cup win was a great boost for them lads and iirc, they lost out after extra-time in the All-Ireland series.

Yeah they lost to Abbey CBS Tipp after extra time and also some poor refereeing as well to boot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Problem is teams will want to compete in intermediate as thry know they've very little chance of winning senior at the minute.

In Antrim would Rossa or Ballycastle be allowed to drop to intermediate after playing in senior championship?

Both teams compete at senior, Ballycastle when they were div 2 recently (on a couple of occasions) wouldn't have dropped out of senior, Rossa did and won the All Ireland (Antrim's first and only) intermediate final.

But did they compete in senior championship first, lose, then drop down to intermediate championship in Antrim...in the same year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:30:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 28, 2019, 09:35:22 AM
thought we played well yesterday. harried and tackled all over the pitch and didnt let Ballycran get any space or time. decent performance but it will take a better one to beat Sneill.

they are the team to beat at this level for the last lot of years and they will be tough as hell in the final again.

What's the aveage age of this team DR - Eoin O'Neill Koby and Molloy have filled out well - physically strong now. O'Neill was very good yesterday I thought.  Great understanding between the 3 of them.

Should be a big crowd at the final in 2 weeks I'd say.

Eoin, Coby, Keelan, Conor Kinsela are all the same age. think they are all 20. Ryan elliott is 22, think Ronan Molloy is 21 as is Eamon Smyth

Seaan elliott , Ryan McGarry Anton McGrath and Aaron crawford are 19

They would be possibly younger now than Sneill are now but i cant be sure

The Mageean Cup win was a great boost for them lads and iirc, they lost out after extra-time in the All-Ireland series.

Yeah they lost to Abbey CBS Tipp after extra time and also some poor refereeing as well to boot.

Yes, I think it was a Cork ref: gave the Ballymane nothing in 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Problem is teams will want to compete in intermediate as thry know they've very little chance of winning senior at the minute.

In Antrim would Rossa or Ballycastle be allowed to drop to intermediate after playing in senior championship?

Both teams compete at senior, Ballycastle when they were div 2 recently (on a couple of occasions) wouldn't have dropped out of senior, Rossa did and won the All Ireland (Antrim's first and only) intermediate final.

But did they compete in senior championship first, lose, then drop down to intermediate championship in Antrim...in the same year?

No, not allowed, I think we've a policy now that div1 can only play senior, also we can't play intermediate next year as a club even though we are relegated cause we won Ulster last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2019, 03:19:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Third year of this format in Derry. Lavey got beat in an Ulster intermediate final in the 1st year of it, by Keady I think.

Problem is teams will want to compete in intermediate as thry know they've very little chance of winning senior at the minute.

In Antrim would Rossa or Ballycastle be allowed to drop to intermediate after playing in senior championship?

Both teams compete at senior, Ballycastle when they were div 2 recently (on a couple of occasions) wouldn't have dropped out of senior, Rossa did and won the All Ireland (Antrim's first and only) intermediate final.

But did they compete in senior championship first, lose, then drop down to intermediate championship in Antrim...in the same year?

No, not allowed, I think we've a policy now that div1 can only play senior, also we can't play intermediate next year as a club even though we are relegated cause we won Ulster last year

Ok. Derry clubs, once beaten, drop down to intermediate, which I think as unfair.  They all play in senior league.

I think they should nominate what championship they want to play in at start of year.

On the other side of story is Lisbellaw went in senior club semi-final for a few years....yet there are no other senior clubs in Fermanagh and their county team are in the Lory Meagher!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 04:07:59 PM
Derry's championship is based on the senior league. Teams finishing 1 and 2 get a bye into semi finals. Teams 3 4 5 and 6 play in 1/4 finals. Winners progress to semi finals with 1 and 2. Losers play intermediate final. Lavey and Ballinascreen who lost the senior semi finals this year couldn't have opted to play in the intermediate. Coleraine finished 7th in senior league and were in junior final with Na Magha who compete in Antrim division 4 I think.

I get annoyance at Banagher being in the intermediate this year as they finished 3rd in the league. But they got caught fair and square in the championship but it's not like Derry teams are running away with it every year. Before this system Coleraine and Na Magha alternated between being the Derry representative in the intermediate and junior Ulster competitions. Intermediate and junior competitions didn't exist in Derry before this system.

Coleraine is a funny one because the strength of their hurling team depends greatly on how they are getting on in the football championship. They were out in the 1st round of that this year so all their dual players were able to play hurling. Last year they conceded a junior final as they were still
In the football championship, albeit they weren't helped by going to a replay in the football 1/4 final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 04:07:59 PM
Derry's championship is based on the senior league. Teams finishing 1 and 2 get a bye into semi finals. Teams 3 4 5 and 6 play in 1/4 finals. Winners progress to semi finals with 1 and 2. Losers play intermediate final. Lavey and Ballinascreen who lost the senior semi finals this year couldn't have opted to play in the intermediate. Coleraine finished 7th in senior league and were in junior final with Na Magha who compete in Antrim division 4 I think.

I get annoyance at Banagher being in the intermediate this year as they finished 3rd in the league. But they got caught fair and square in the championship but it's not like Derry teams are running away with it every year. Before this system Coleraine and Na Magha alternated between being the Derry representative in the intermediate and junior Ulster competitions. Intermediate and junior competitions didn't exist in Derry before this system.

Coleraine is a funny one because the strength of their hurling team depends greatly on how they are getting on in the football championship. They were out in the 1st round of that this year so all their dual players were able to play hurling. Last year they conceded a junior final as they were still
In the football championship, albeit they weren't helped by going to a replay in the football 1/4 final.

3 competitions for only 8 teams then??

That's gives you a great chance to win something!!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: marty34 on October 28, 2019, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on October 28, 2019, 04:07:59 PM
Derry's championship is based on the senior league. Teams finishing 1 and 2 get a bye into semi finals. Teams 3 4 5 and 6 play in 1/4 finals. Winners progress to semi finals with 1 and 2. Losers play intermediate final. Lavey and Ballinascreen who lost the senior semi finals this year couldn't have opted to play in the intermediate. Coleraine finished 7th in senior league and were in junior final with Na Magha who compete in Antrim division 4 I think.

I get annoyance at Banagher being in the intermediate this year as they finished 3rd in the league. But they got caught fair and square in the championship but it's not like Derry teams are running away with it every year. Before this system Coleraine and Na Magha alternated between being the Derry representative in the intermediate and junior Ulster competitions. Intermediate and junior competitions didn't exist in Derry before this system.

Coleraine is a funny one because the strength of their hurling team depends greatly on how they are getting on in the football championship. They were out in the 1st round of that this year so all their dual players were able to play hurling. Last year they conceded a junior final as they were still
In the football championship, albeit they weren't helped by going to a replay in the football 1/4 final.

3 competitions for only 8 teams then??

That's gives you a great chance to win something!!

Aye it is good for Ulster, more teams makes for better competition.
Id say realistically in Derry the standard is as follows;

Senior-Slaughtneil, Lynches,
Inter-Swa,lavey, Coleraine
Junior-Na Magha

Screen and Banagher can fluctuate a bit between senior and intermediate, id say Banagher would be intermediate level this year however.

Sorry for clogging up Antrim board with Derry hurling chat, but it is only place a hurling man can get any engagement.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Link on October 29, 2019, 12:15:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

Maghera produce good teams because the 6 strongest hurling clubs in Derry all feed into Maghera. Of course there will be some great hurlers who attend st. pats dungiven, st colm's draperstown and maybe Loreto, St Mary's magherafelt but for the most part, it's maghera.

I don't think there's much of a drop off between say playing mageean for maghera and club hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 29, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
i find it weird that Bellaghy are now producing some really good strong camogie teams in their club that hurling hasn't started to catch on. I know football is god in Derry clubs but its always something i though would of actually caught on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 29, 2019, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
i find it weird that Bellaghy are now producing some really good strong camogie teams in their club that hurling hasn't started to catch on. I know football is god in Derry clubs but its always something i though would of actually caught on.

I think you find in Derry is that most of the football clubs also have a camógie team instead of ladies football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 29, 2019, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
i find it weird that Bellaghy are now producing some really good strong camogie teams in their club that hurling hasn't started to catch on. I know football is god in Derry clubs but its always something i though would of actually caught on.

I think you find in Derry is that most of the football clubs also have a camógie team instead of ladies football.

Yeah camogie county first and foremost but more clubs taking up football now in recent years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 29, 2019, 02:06:07 PM
Na Magha is a great day trip!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 29, 2019, 02:06:07 PM
Na Magha is a great day trip!

We are always waiting for the sound of the buses come up the hill, and fair play nobody has let us down yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

100%. Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?

We play mid season, senior would be counter productive at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 29, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?

We play mid season, senior would be counter productive at the minute.

It is sometimes easy to criticise Antrim GAA but when it comes to hurling Antrim deserve an awful lot of credit for supporting hurling in other counties in Ulster as IMO a lot of other CB's are AWOL and the Ulster Council don't seem to have any joined up thinking when it comes to developing hurling in weak areas.

You'll get an invite to an indoor blitz in Magherafelt for January or February and then nada for most of the rest of the year.

Down have the three Ards clubs and now Bredagh and Carryduff in the Antrim leagues as like us they know there isn't enough fixtures of sufficient quality to sustain development for hurlers in Down.

We decided to put a minor team in Antrim this year and whilst it was a big ask with such as small panel it was a worthwhile venture as I certainly could see improvement in some of the younger lads on that panel and that league is smattered with Derry clubs and Eoghan Rua from Tyrone in there as well.

Where would they have played if it wasn't for this league?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 05:26:30 PM
We're going to have to stop soon if teams like Dungannon win the ulster intermediate though ;D

I'm only joking btw. I would agree I see a lot of improvement in teams like Carryduff and Bredagh too. It's kind of a mini ulster league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 29, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?

We play mid season, senior would be counter productive at the minute.

It is sometimes easy to criticise Antrim GAA but when it comes to hurling Antrim deserve an awful lot of credit for supporting hurling in other counties in Ulster as IMO a lot of other CB's are AWOL and the Ulster Council don't seem to have any joined up thinking when it comes to developing hurling in weak areas.

You'll get an invite to an indoor blitz in Magherafelt for January or February and then nada for most of the rest of the year.

Down have the three Ards clubs and now Bredagh and Carryduff in the Antrim leagues as like us they know there isn't enough fixtures of sufficient quality to sustain development for hurlers in Down.

We decided to put a minor team in Antrim this year and whilst it was a big ask with such as small panel it was a worthwhile venture as I certainly could see improvement in some of the younger lads on that panel and that league is smattered with Derry clubs and Eoghan Rua from Tyrone in there as well.

Where would they have played if it wasn't for this league?

I presume, with Antrim being so competitive, that they don't need an Ulster league.  The Antrim league, by defsult, is the Ulster leaguw with Tyrone , Derry and Down teams in it.

A lot of Derry and Dungannon are in the Antrim U16 and minor leagues.  It must work well as I think the other counties have no leagues of their own. 

It can only improve the standard of hurling.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 29, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?

We play mid season, senior would be counter productive at the minute.

It is sometimes easy to criticise Antrim GAA but when it comes to hurling Antrim deserve an awful lot of credit for supporting hurling in other counties in Ulster as IMO a lot of other CB's are AWOL and the Ulster Council don't seem to have any joined up thinking when it comes to developing hurling in weak areas.

You'll get an invite to an indoor blitz in Magherafelt for January or February and then nada for most of the rest of the year.

Down have the three Ards clubs and now Bredagh and Carryduff in the Antrim leagues as like us they know there isn't enough fixtures of sufficient quality to sustain development for hurlers in Down.

We decided to put a minor team in Antrim this year and whilst it was a big ask with such as small panel it was a worthwhile venture as I certainly could see improvement in some of the younger lads on that panel and that league is smattered with Derry clubs and Eoghan Rua from Tyrone in there as well.

Where would they have played if it wasn't for this league?

I presume, with Antrim being so competitive, that they don't need an Ulster league.  The Antrim league, by defsult, is the Ulster leaguw with Tyrone , Derry and Down teams in it.

A lot of Derry and Dungannon are in the Antrim U16 and minor leagues.  It must work well as I think the other counties have no leagues of their own. 

It can only improve the standard of hurling.

Derry has no minor league now, u16 nw league exists though.. We played u16 and minor in Antrim last year. U16 last 3 years actually. We combined with colersine  last year. We had 9 lads travel to Portaferry on a Friday night.. Derry city to Portaferry and back. Was worth it though. But hard to sustain.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 29, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 29, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 29, 2019, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 29, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

We could not have survived without Antrim. Last year proved to be toughest year in last 20 id say. Personal tragedy, games away from home and emigration almost put us under at senior. But we will be back again hopefully next year. Relegated to Div 4, but maybe that is what is needed, rebuild from there.

Na Magha has been a constant in the Antrim leagues now and i think it should be something of an importance to Derry GAA that hurling is kept going in the city. They should be doing all they can to support the game rather than pay lip service to it.

There was a stage in our club where football struggled and we didnt field at minor level. Camogie was on its knees for a while but is now back on a healthier footing. Hurling was at times pretty tough throughtout the years and only seen sucess after many many years of set backs.

If you stay the distance you will get there. every club has really poor periods and see lows that question whether its worth it but it always comes out on the other side.

Would Na Magha not play in Derry league?

We play mid season, senior would be counter productive at the minute.

It is sometimes easy to criticise Antrim GAA but when it comes to hurling Antrim deserve an awful lot of credit for supporting hurling in other counties in Ulster as IMO a lot of other CB's are AWOL and the Ulster Council don't seem to have any joined up thinking when it comes to developing hurling in weak areas.

You'll get an invite to an indoor blitz in Magherafelt for January or February and then nada for most of the rest of the year.

Down have the three Ards clubs and now Bredagh and Carryduff in the Antrim leagues as like us they know there isn't enough fixtures of sufficient quality to sustain development for hurlers in Down.

We decided to put a minor team in Antrim this year and whilst it was a big ask with such as small panel it was a worthwhile venture as I certainly could see improvement in some of the younger lads on that panel and that league is smattered with Derry clubs and Eoghan Rua from Tyrone in there as well.

Where would they have played if it wasn't for this league?

I presume, with Antrim being so competitive, that they don't need an Ulster league.  The Antrim league, by defsult, is the Ulster leaguw with Tyrone , Derry and Down teams in it.

A lot of Derry and Dungannon are in the Antrim U16 and minor leagues.  It must work well as I think the other counties have no leagues of their own. 

It can only improve the standard of hurling.

Derry has no minor league now, u16 nw league exists though.. We played u16 and minor in Antrim last year. U16 last 3 years actually. We combined with colersine  last year. We had 9 lads travel to Portaferry on a Friday night.. Derry city to Portaferry and back. Was worth it though. But hard to sustain.

Great committment there - fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2019, 08:40:43 PM
Yeah great to hear that. I'm sure there are some people in the club putting in some effort to make that happen too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 04, 2019, 02:26:51 AM
The week leading up to the biggest games in Ulster hurling. How do we see these games going? I can't wait for Sunday Dunloy v Slaughtneil will be a cracker. St Endas should beat Dungannon but have just been scraping through in Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 08:11:27 AM
Dunloy by 10 or slaughtneil by 1/2.

Dungannon to upset the odds and win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 08:11:27 AM
Dunloy by 10 or slaughtneil by 1/2.

Dungannon to upset the odds and win.

lol id take that.

I think truthfully it will be a very tight game with very little in it at the end. im confident in our ability and having good options on the bench that we could get over the line this time.

last time we played i knew we wouldnt win, they were much better than us and were a team aiming for an all ireland whereas we were just happy to have won Antrim against the odds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 08:11:27 AM
Dunloy by 10 or slaughtneil by 1/2.

Dungannon to upset the odds and win.

lol id take that.

I think truthfully it will be a very tight game with very little in it at the end. im confident in our ability and having good options on the bench that we could get over the line this time.

last time we played i knew we wouldnt win, they were much better than us and were a team aiming for an all ireland whereas we were just happy to have won Antrim against the odds.

It should be a great battle - a bit crowd in for the double header.

Big thing for me is the shape of pitch.  Was watching Cross V Clontibret game on Saturday evening and the pitch was in poor shape.  Cut up really badly after the football double header.  Won't be conducive to good hurling but hopefully it'll improve.

Dunloy have great ability in the ff line - great movement with pace.  Slaughtneil have the physical power and will have that experience of playing in Armagh.

Should be a cracker.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
i was surprised it went to Armagh as they didnt want the game. it had been rumoured that it was for Omagh as a double header with the Intermediate final before hand.

but the camogie ones had their final set for the same day so id say it made sense for the Sneill club than making their supporters go on two different days.

that being said its a joke of a set up in the camogie. the Antrim camogie final was over a month ago yet Lgiel have to wait till now to play a final. the game should of been played weeks ago as a stand along fixture rather than waiting till now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 04, 2019, 10:26:38 AM
Dunloy by 3
Dungannon by 3
Eoghan Rua by 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
i was surprised it went to Armagh as they didnt want the game. it had been rumoured that it was for Omagh as a double header with the Intermediate final before hand.

but the camogie ones had their final set for the same day so id say it made sense for the Sneill club than making their supporters go on two different days.

that being said its a joke of a set up in the camogie. the Antrim camogie final was over a month ago yet Lgiel have to wait till now to play a final. the game should of been played weeks ago as a stand along fixture rather than waiting till now.

I agree re: camogie.  Too long to wait as the weather and pitches get worse.  I understand that they'd want to play before a good crowd also but as you say, a stand alone fixture a few weeks ago would gather a good crowd.

My take is Dunloy won Antrim 'too early' a few years ago if you understand - very young team but won it unexpectedly in my opinion.  This year, they are ready - the young lads are physically stronger and more experienced.  Shorty is still a star around the middle.

I'm sticking my head out....and going for a draw....then extra-time. Could be penalties!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 11:53:25 AM
Hurling wise I think Dunloy are a good bit more capable but in terms of physicality etc, especially at this time of year, that is the big question for them. They look much bigger so hopefully they will have adapted that part of their game too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
i was surprised it went to Armagh as they didnt want the game. it had been rumoured that it was for Omagh as a double header with the Intermediate final before hand.

but the camogie ones had their final set for the same day so id say it made sense for the Sneill club than making their supporters go on two different days.

that being said its a joke of a set up in the camogie. the Antrim camogie final was over a month ago yet Lgiel have to wait till now to play a final. the game should of been played weeks ago as a stand along fixture rather than waiting till now.

I agree re: camogie.  Too long to wait as the weather and pitches get worse.  I understand that they'd want to play before a good crowd also but as you say, a stand alone fixture a few weeks ago would gather a good crowd.

My take is Dunloy won Antrim 'too early' a few years ago if you understand - very young team but won it unexpectedly in my opinion.  This year, they are ready - the young lads are physically stronger and more experienced.  Shorty is still a star around the middle.

I'm sticking my head out....and going for a draw....then extra-time. Could be penalties!!

Final goes to replay.... The game will be a lot tighter for both teams thats for sure.. The camogie game should also be a goodin, have seen Sneil and they are pretty decent team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2019, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
i was surprised it went to Armagh as they didnt want the game. it had been rumoured that it was for Omagh as a double header with the Intermediate final before hand.

but the camogie ones had their final set for the same day so id say it made sense for the Sneill club than making their supporters go on two different days.

that being said its a joke of a set up in the camogie. the Antrim camogie final was over a month ago yet Lgiel have to wait till now to play a final. the game should of been played weeks ago as a stand along fixture rather than waiting till now.

I agree re: camogie.  Too long to wait as the weather and pitches get worse.  I understand that they'd want to play before a good crowd also but as you say, a stand alone fixture a few weeks ago would gather a good crowd.

My take is Dunloy won Antrim 'too early' a few years ago if you understand - very young team but won it unexpectedly in my opinion.  This year, they are ready - the young lads are physically stronger and more experienced.  Shorty is still a star around the middle.

I'm sticking my head out....and going for a draw....then extra-time. Could be penalties!!

Final goes to replay.... The game will be a lot tighter for both teams thats for sure.. The camogie game should also be a goodin, have seen Sneil and they are pretty decent team

going for 4 AI's in row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Seen sneil camogs this year a few times. they are not the team they were last year.

they had a lot of girls take time out ,which you can understand, and they werent hitting the heights of last year so woody was back on board and they have the likes of Louise Dougan back again playing.

seen their semi final v Swatragh and they didn't impress me at all. Louise dougan was her usual outstanding self but the rest of them seemed to struggle with Swatragh.

Loughgiel will see them for the taking but both sides are missing good players through travelling and life. will be a good game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 04, 2019, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Seen sneil camogs this year a few times. they are not the team they were last year.

they had a lot of girls take time out ,which you can understand, and they werent hitting the heights of last year so woody was back on board and they have the likes of Louise Dougan back again playing.

seen their semi final v Swatragh and they didn't impress me at all. Louise dougan was her usual outstanding self but the rest of them seemed to struggle with Swatragh.

Loughgiel will see them for the taking but both sides are missing good players through travelling and life. will be a good game

Always think it is very difficult for women to keep at it past minor, which is real pity
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 03:26:43 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 04, 2019, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Seen sneil camogs this year a few times. they are not the team they were last year.

they had a lot of girls take time out ,which you can understand, and they werent hitting the heights of last year so woody was back on board and they have the likes of Louise Dougan back again playing.

seen their semi final v Swatragh and they didn't impress me at all. Louise dougan was her usual outstanding self but the rest of them seemed to struggle with Swatragh.

Loughgiel will see them for the taking but both sides are missing good players through travelling and life. will be a good game

Always think it is very difficult for women to keep at it past minor, which is real pity

Aye it really has a large drop off rate in the game and its hard to keep them all at it. when you only have 1 team at senior level you only get the really strong players to move up and sadly the others disappear.

Still think that Sneill will be strong but its how Loughgiel set up and their tactics as well that might win them the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:02:34 PM
So Ulster GAA said the pitch unplayable for the camogie on sunday...

Maybe I missed someone saying that mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 04, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
games def not in Armagh now.

new venue to be announced this evening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:02:34 PM
So Ulster GAA said the pitch unplayable for the camogie on sunday...

Maybe I missed someone saying that mind.

Would have been unfair to have it on a pitch thats unplayable! They deserve better, Queens would be the best shout
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on November 04, 2019, 04:57:04 PM
Where are Dunloy and Slaughtniel playing in the Ulster final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:02:34 PM
So Ulster GAA said the pitch unplayable for the camogie on sunday...

Maybe I missed someone saying that mind.

Would have been unfair to have it on a pitch thats unplayable! They deserve better, Queens would be the best shout

Agreed. Then I don't have to drive very far to go and see it ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 04:13:32 PM
games def not in Armagh now.

new venue to be announced this evening.

Are the games being split up DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 04, 2019, 04:02:34 PM
So Ulster GAA said the pitch unplayable for the camogie on sunday...

Maybe I missed someone saying that mind.

Would have been unfair to have it on a pitch thats unplayable! They deserve better, Queens would be the best shout

Agreed. Then I don't have to drive very far to go and see it ;D
Was at queens at the weekend there, all Ireland league rugby going on at main pitch, Queens playing Ards on the soccer pitch, hockey on top pitch and two lower end games of rugby and soccer going on! Brilliant and there is a bar now in the main building!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 04, 2019, 10:10:42 PM
Hearing that the games are being moved to Celtic Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 04, 2019, 10:10:42 PM
Hearing that the games are being moved to Celtic Park

Jebus! Owenbeg a better option..

Queens better, I take it then that the teams tossed for venue? Ballycastle or Celtic Park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 04, 2019, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 04, 2019, 10:10:42 PM
Hearing that the games are being moved to Celtic Park

Jebus! Owenbeg a better option..

Queens better, I take it then that the teams tossed for venue? Ballycastle or Celtic Park

Having played on thrm all celtic Park best pitch, always well sheltered from elements too. 40 mins from Slaughtneil, hour dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2019, 06:37:09 AM
Road closed at Drumahoe this weekend and traffic is being diverted via Eglinton onto the Derry - Limavady road.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2019, 08:42:38 AM
was in Donegal last weekend and the traffic to get to just Derry was terrible!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2019, 08:42:38 AM
was in Donegal last weekend and the traffic to get to just Derry was terrible!

Didn't realise about the road works, but Sundays usually handy run in. Great ground for atmosphere. 14k capacity. Will it get 6k?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 05, 2019, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2019, 08:47:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2019, 08:42:38 AM
was in Donegal last weekend and the traffic to get to just Derry was terrible!

Didn't realise about the road works, but Sundays usually handy run in. Great ground for atmosphere. 14k capacity. Will it get 6k?

There's talk of Newry as well.

Time the Ulster Council got their stadium on the Andersonstown road up and running.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2019, 10:06:39 AM
Game confirmed for Newry as a double header with the camogie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2019, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 05, 2019, 10:06:39 AM
Game confirmed for Newry as a double header with the camogie

Some trek there for supporters compared to Celtic Park. But decent pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on November 05, 2019, 10:55:37 AM
Dunloy by 4
St endas by 6
Newry by 2

All 3 games i feel could go either way but fancy a much more mature dunloy team to makes amends for 2 years ago. St Endas seem to have stagnated in Ulster but feel they'll produce the goods and overcome a team theyve already beaten twice this year. Eoghan Ruadh of Coleraine I feel have had easy passage to the final therefore backing Newry to cause an upset
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 05, 2019, 11:02:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2019, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 04, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 04, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
i was surprised it went to Armagh as they didnt want the game. it had been rumoured that it was for Omagh as a double header with the Intermediate final before hand.

but the camogie ones had their final set for the same day so id say it made sense for the Sneill club than making their supporters go on two different days.

that being said its a joke of a set up in the camogie. the Antrim camogie final was over a month ago yet Lgiel have to wait till now to play a final. the game should of been played weeks ago as a stand along fixture rather than waiting till now.

I agree re: camogie.  Too long to wait as the weather and pitches get worse.  I understand that they'd want to play before a good crowd also but as you say, a stand alone fixture a few weeks ago would gather a good crowd.

My take is Dunloy won Antrim 'too early' a few years ago if you understand - very young team but won it unexpectedly in my opinion.  This year, they are ready - the young lads are physically stronger and more experienced.  Shorty is still a star around the middle.

I'm sticking my head out....and going for a draw....then extra-time. Could be penalties!!

Final goes to replay.... The game will be a lot tighter for both teams thats for sure.. The camogie game should also be a goodin, have seen Sneil and they are pretty decent team

Game to be finished on day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 05, 2019, 11:19:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 05, 2019, 10:06:39 AM
Game confirmed for Newry as a double header with the camogie

Fine feed in the Canal Court after the game.

Dan Gillan swears by it  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2019, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 05, 2019, 11:19:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 05, 2019, 10:06:39 AM
Game confirmed for Newry as a double header with the camogie

Fine feed in the Canal Court after the game.

Dan Gillan swears by it  ;D

lol i said to the girlfriend 'match is in Newry, were eating after the game in the Canal Court!'  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2019, 12:10:16 PM
and you're paying ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 05, 2019, 12:29:01 PM
lol thats taken as a given now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Whats the craic with parking around Pairc Esler?

Any advice from any of the Down / Armagh / Newry residents?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 05, 2019, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Whats the craic with parking around Pairc Esler?

Any advice from any of the Down / Armagh / Newry residents?

Probably best to park in the town and walk down as traffic getting away can be an nightmare. Public car park across the road from the front of the Buttercrane shopping centre would probably be your best bet and then a 5-10 walk down.

This is what i was told on the Down board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Seamroga in exile on November 07, 2019, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 05, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Whats the craic with parking around Pairc Esler?

Any advice from any of the Down / Armagh / Newry residents?
When we played there I parked in Greenbank. When I left I drove out the old warrenpoint road then left up onto chapel street and away.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 09, 2019, 05:34:50 PM
Is there any pitch inspection planned for Newry tomorrow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 09, 2019, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 09, 2019, 05:34:50 PM
Is there any pitch inspection planned for Newry tomorrow

945 tomorrow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 09, 2019, 10:38:21 PM
At least it's early, not like the Intermediate final when fans and teams would have been at Owenbeg already
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 10, 2019, 04:00:40 PM
Dunloy are in trouble a man and four points down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 10, 2019, 04:18:29 PM
Cluiche Ceannais Iomána Sinsir Uladh/Ulster Senior Hurling Final
Brendan   
29mins 2nd half
Sleacht Néill :1-14(17)
Dún Láthai :0-10(10).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2019, 04:55:55 PM
Strong from Slaughtneil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 11, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.

Didn't get to the game but speaking to a few lads who were at it last night in the club they said Sneil were full value for their victory and if anything the margin should have been bigger.

The general consensus was the Dunloy got caught tactically initially with leaving too much space for Rodgers, McKaig and McGuigan to operate in, i.e. getting sucked down the pitch and then getting caught with the bigger, stronger lads winning one on one battles.
Sneil denied the Dunloy forwards space and were more physical in the tackle and that took its toll.

Credit where it's due. They're a serious team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 11, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.

Didn't get to the game but speaking to a few lads who were at it last night in the club they said Sneil were full value for their victory and if anything the margin should have been bigger.

The general consensus was the Dunloy got caught tactically initially with leaving too much space for Rodgers, McKaig and McGuigan to operate in, i.e. getting sucked down the pitch and then getting caught with the bigger, stronger lads winning one on one battles.
Sneil denied the Dunloy forwards space and were more physical in the tackle and that took its toll.

Credit where it's due. They're a serious team.

Thats about how it panned out Johnny.

Slaughtneil denied any space that the Dunloy runners might exploit although they breached the defence once or twice in the first half with the Slaughtneil keeper pulling off a class save.

Ryan Elliott did the same from a Brendan Rogers piledriver.

They packed the midfield making it difficult for Dunloy to gain much possession and at the same time exploited any space that arose and made good use of possession.

The catch and 90 yard point from Gerard Bradley was worth the entrance fee alone.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 11, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 11, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.

Didn't get to the game but speaking to a few lads who were at it last night in the club they said Sneil were full value for their victory and if anything the margin should have been bigger.

The general consensus was the Dunloy got caught tactically initially with leaving too much space for Rodgers, McKaig and McGuigan to operate in, i.e. getting sucked down the pitch and then getting caught with the bigger, stronger lads winning one on one battles.
Sneil denied the Dunloy forwards space and were more physical in the tackle and that took its toll.

Credit where it's due. They're a serious team.

Thats about how it panned out Johnny.

Slaughtneil denied any space that the Dunloy runners might exploit although they breached the defence once or twice in the first half with the Slaughtneil keeper pulling off a class save.

Ryan Elliott did the same from a Brendan Rogers piledriver.

They packed the midfield making it difficult for Dunloy to gain much possession and at the same time exploited any space that arose and made good use of possession.

The catch and 90 yard point from Gerard Bradley was worth the entrance fee alone.

That was score of the game - a fantastic point. He dropped back after the sending off and sealed up the centre.

I thought S'neil, apart from the first 10mins, were totally dominant and could have won by more.  Their hurling ability was excellent and well matched with power and tactical awareness.

Cormac O'Doherty is a super hurler. Great vision and always picks the right pass.  All the best players were in a maroon jersey. 

Dunloy's big players didn't perform but they'll be back.  It wasn't their day.  4 points from play not a good return but experience will stand to them.  Great future ahead in Dunloy and Antrim jerseys for some of them lads.

I was quite disappointed with the crowd - i thought with the double header that there'd be more at it.  Pitch held up well and breeze only started in second half.

Camogie game similar to hurling.  Slaughtneil controlled the game after Loughgiel dominated first 10mins.  SN were then, in my opinion, always in control after they got to grips with game.  LG sat very deep and tberefore had no real out ball out of defence - it came back in on top of them time after time.

Both games not great but I really enjoyed them.  Great effort and honesty by the 4 teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 11, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 11, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 11, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.

Didn't get to the game but speaking to a few lads who were at it last night in the club they said Sneil were full value for their victory and if anything the margin should have been bigger.

The general consensus was the Dunloy got caught tactically initially with leaving too much space for Rodgers, McKaig and McGuigan to operate in, i.e. getting sucked down the pitch and then getting caught with the bigger, stronger lads winning one on one battles.
Sneil denied the Dunloy forwards space and were more physical in the tackle and that took its toll.

Credit where it's due. They're a serious team.

Thats about how it panned out Johnny.

Slaughtneil denied any space that the Dunloy runners might exploit although they breached the defence once or twice in the first half with the Slaughtneil keeper pulling off a class save.

Ryan Elliott did the same from a Brendan Rogers piledriver.

They packed the midfield making it difficult for Dunloy to gain much possession and at the same time exploited any space that arose and made good use of possession.

The catch and 90 yard point from Gerard Bradley was worth the entrance fee alone.

That was score of the game - a fantastic point. He dropped back after the sending off and sealed up the centre.

I thought S'neil, apart from the first 10mins, were totally dominant and could have won by more.  Their hurling ability was excellent and well matched with power and tactical awareness.

Cormac O'Doherty is a super hurler. Great vision and always picks the right pass.  All the best players were in a maroon jersey. 

Dunloy's big players didn't perform but they'll be back.  It wasn't their day.  4 points from play not a good return but experience will stand to them.  Great future ahead in Dunloy and Antrim jerseys for some of them lads.

I was quite disappointed with the crowd - i thought with the double header that there'd be more at it.  Pitch held up well and breeze only started in second half.

Camogie game similar to hurling.  Slaughtneil controlled the game after Loughgiel dominated first 10mins.  SN were then, in my opinion, always in control after they got to grips with game.  LG sat very deep and tberefore had no real out ball out of defence - it came back in on top of them time after time.

Both games not great but I really enjoyed them.  Great effort and honesty by the 4 teams.

Just can't understand why both sets of players were made travel there when Derry City is much closer. The suggested diversion at Drunahoe via Limavady was a joke. Up through slaughtmanus anc youd have been there with 10 mins added on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2019, 07:32:37 PM
Not much to add to what's been mentioned, their extra man played better ball and sweep'd up more ball than Dunloy's..

S'neil missed four early opportunities early on and Dunloy should have scored a goal but you just felt the momentum was always with S'neil.. they impressed me from the last time I saw them, they could give it a rattle depending on who comes out on the other side.

Tighter pitch was a bonus for them also, they won a lot of the breaks and once Dunloy went a man down there was only one winner.

The catch and score was superb
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 12, 2019, 07:41:38 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 11, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 11, 2019, 06:08:47 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 11, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2019, 06:15:10 PM
Sneil are a class act, very impressed with their whole performance today.

Didn't get to the game but speaking to a few lads who were at it last night in the club they said Sneil were full value for their victory and if anything the margin should have been bigger.

The general consensus was the Dunloy got caught tactically initially with leaving too much space for Rodgers, McKaig and McGuigan to operate in, i.e. getting sucked down the pitch and then getting caught with the bigger, stronger lads winning one on one battles.
Sneil denied the Dunloy forwards space and were more physical in the tackle and that took its toll.

Credit where it's due. They're a serious team.

Thats about how it panned out Johnny.

Slaughtneil denied any space that the Dunloy runners might exploit although they breached the defence once or twice in the first half with the Slaughtneil keeper pulling off a class save.

Ryan Elliott did the same from a Brendan Rogers piledriver.

They packed the midfield making it difficult for Dunloy to gain much possession and at the same time exploited any space that arose and made good use of possession.

The catch and 90 yard point from Gerard Bradley was worth the entrance fee alone.

That was score of the game - a fantastic point. He dropped back after the sending off and sealed up the centre.

I thought S'neil, apart from the first 10mins, were totally dominant and could have won by more.  Their hurling ability was excellent and well matched with power and tactical awareness.

Cormac O'Doherty is a super hurler. Great vision and always picks the right pass.  All the best players were in a maroon jersey. 

Dunloy's big players didn't perform but they'll be back.  It wasn't their day.  4 points from play not a good return but experience will stand to them.  Great future ahead in Dunloy and Antrim jerseys for some of them lads.

I was quite disappointed with the crowd - i thought with the double header that there'd be more at it.  Pitch held up well and breeze only started in second half.

Camogie game similar to hurling.  Slaughtneil controlled the game after Loughgiel dominated first 10mins.  SN were then, in my opinion, always in control after they got to grips with game.  LG sat very deep and tberefore had no real out ball out of defence - it came back in on top of them time after time.

Both games not great but I really enjoyed them.  Great effort and honesty by the 4 teams.

Just can't understand why both sets of players were made travel there when Derry City is much closer. The suggested diversion at Drunahoe via Limavady was a joke. Up through slaughtmanus anc youd have been there with 10 mins added on

Match was due to be played in Celtic Park as a double header with the camogie final with the agreement of the clubs involved.

However, one of those clubs had an in house championship pace training match in Celtic Park complete with referee which one of the other participating clubs got wind of and they pulled the plug after enquiring about the state of the pitch in Pairc Esler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 12, 2019, 08:48:37 AM
beaten by a better team on the day. S'neill were superb for the full hour whereas we didn't play anywhere near the level we could have.

i was disappointed as we seemed to completely change the way we played and didn't use the ball well at all. But thats the way it goes.

you either learn from it or fail again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 12, 2019, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 12, 2019, 08:48:37 AM
beaten by a better team on the day. S'neill were superb for the full hour whereas we didn't play anywhere near the level we could have.

i was disappointed as we seemed to completely change the way we played and didn't use the ball well at all. But thats the way it goes.

you either learn from it or fail again.

Thats twice in a few years that Dunloy have lost a championship match when the opposition defence blocked off the Dunloy runners.

Same happened v Loughgiel in the Antrim semi final a couple of years ago. it wasnt pretty but was effective.

The thing is that there is serious talent in that Dunloy team and while the strength and conditioning has paid dividends they were horsed out of it by a bigger S'neil team who have plenty of hurling themselves.

Obviously Dick and the rest of the Dunloy management team will get a chance to analyse that match and implement a few tactical changes for next season. It might be required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 01:50:40 PM
St endas six down. Had a sneaky feeling they might be beat. Hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 17, 2019, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 01:50:40 PM
St endas six down. Had a sneaky feeling they might be beat. Hope I am wrong.

2pts in it now. 10mins left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 17, 2019, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 01:50:40 PM
St endas six down. Had a sneaky feeling they might be beat. Hope I am wrong.

2pts in it now. 10mins left.

Draw ET to be played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 17, 2019, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 17, 2019, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2019, 01:50:40 PM
St endas six down. Had a sneaky feeling they might be beat. Hope I am wrong.

2pts in it now. 10mins left.

Draw ET to be played

2 wvenly matched teams. Naomh Eanna came back into it in 2nd half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Penalties
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
One penalty converted from 9 attempts.

I like it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Penalties
St endas win 1-0 on penalties!!
Dungannon missed all 5
What a joke of a way to decide the match
AI semi not until January
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 17, 2019, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Penalties
St endas win 1-0 on penalties!!
Dungannon missed all 5
What a joke of a way to decide the match
AI semi not until January
Dgn had 2 decent leads in the match and couldn't close it out. 4 pts up in ET!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2019, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 17, 2019, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Penalties
St endas win 1-0 on penalties!!
Dungannon missed all 5
What a joke of a way to decide the match
AI semi not until January
Dgn had 2 decent leads in the match and couldn't close it out. 4 pts up in ET!

Blatant pull down on Dungannon player which would have won it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2019, 04:07:00 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 17, 2019, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 17, 2019, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2019, 02:59:18 PM
Penalties
St endas win 1-0 on penalties!!
Dungannon missed all 5
What a joke of a way to decide the match
AI semi not until January
Dgn had 2 decent leads in the match and couldn't close it out. 4 pts up in ET!

Blatant pull down on Dungannon player which would have won it

Were St Endas only in front in the final seconds of extra time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 17, 2019, 04:18:59 PM
The game was won in added time but for a ridiculous free awarded for Dgn. That's my personal view and I fully accept others might see different
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 17, 2019, 04:24:32 PM
And yes there was some game management at play by both teams who were in a final so what might anyone have done in the circumstances. Unreal effort by Dungannon, exactly what we accepted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on November 17, 2019, 04:25:27 PM
Expected
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 18, 2019, 08:22:31 AM
Great game of hurling. It was tough with some excellent play with several great scores between two evenly matched teams. Both teams gave everything and basically died with their boots on out on the pitch.

There was quite a strong breeze with Dungannon in the first half of normal / extra time where they were on top in each sector of the pitch.

Same for St Enda's in the second half of normal / extra time.

I thought the free in for Dungannon where Damien Casey equalised should have been awarded as a free out to Enda's for holding the hurl of the Enda's lad, but that was probably on the blind side of the referee who I thought had a good game.

Didn't agree with the booing from the Enda's fans while Casey was taking his free. 

To decide that contest on a penalty shoot out was nothing short of a disgrace. Surely the match could and should have been replayed at the same venue the following Saturday.

Again it seems the Ulster Council lived up to their 'F**k Hurling' stance when it came to closing out that particular fixture.

Congrats to Enda's who are now playing senior hurling and football next season after a long and bumpy road over many years.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2019, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 18, 2019, 08:22:31 AM
Great game of hurling. It was tough with some excellent play with several great scores between two evenly matched teams. Both teams gave everything and basically died with their boots on out on the pitch.

There was quite a strong breeze with Dungannon in the first half of normal / extra time where they were on top in each sector of the pitch.

Same for St Enda's in the second half of normal / extra time.

I thought the free in for Dungannon where Damien Casey equalised should have been awarded as a free out to Enda's for holding the hurl of the Enda's lad, but that was probably on the blind side of the referee who I thought had a good game.

Didn't agree with the booing from the Enda's fans while Casey was taking his free. 

To decide that contest on a penalty shoot out was nothing short of a disgrace. Surely the match could and should have been replayed at the same venue the following Saturday.

Again it seems the Ulster Council lived up to their 'F**k Hurling' stance when it came to closing out that particular fixture.

Congrats to Enda's who are now playing senior hurling and football next season after a long and bumpy road over many years.

Look the games was called off the week before so this was in effect a 'replay' time wise as such... One reason for finishing it on the day is it's done a dusted and allows the club to prepare for a semi final in Jan, they can rest up for a few weeks and recharge the batteries and plan for a tough match, could end up playing the Walsh brothers from Kilkenny!

We can't just keep having replay's all the time, its not pretty but some drama for the neutrals in fairness, the clubs would have known this beforehand so they there is an opportunity to discuss this with the right people

Hard luck on Dungannon and Colm I thought this was going to be a tough game having seen them play this year, should have beaten Keady last year in the semi. should they get out of Tyrone next year they'd be big favs for the title
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on November 18, 2019, 11:08:08 AM
Its not just hurling that is having penalty shootouts, happening in both sports.  Be interesting to see if there is a draw in the senior football final though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 22, 2019, 02:24:53 PM
I wonder if the Mageean Cup go to penalties tonight if required?  That's if game is still on with all the rain this week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2019, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on November 22, 2019, 02:24:53 PM
I wonder if the Mageean Cup go to penalties tonight if required?  That's if game is still on with all the rain this week
Some turnaround in ET. Pens the last thing on anyone's mind.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on November 25, 2019, 04:19:33 AM
Anyone know if your allowed to go watch the senior county team training? My young nephew is bending me ear about taking him so he can get players signatures on his Hurl  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2019, 08:10:22 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on November 25, 2019, 04:19:33 AM
Anyone know if your allowed to go watch the senior county team training? My young nephew is bending me ear about taking him so he can get players signatures on his Hurl  ;D

It's not like they are training behind closed doors, I'd be amazed if you weren't allowed.

Antrim football team was training at Jordanstown last week, I was walking the dogs so didn't get any autographs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 25, 2019, 06:54:00 PM
Anybody know the back room set up that Darren Gleason has or any other new additions to the panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 26, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
johnny campbell is part of the set up now i was told. if so thats another good appointment for the panel. a good hurler, defender and has a wealth of experience to offer the set up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on December 03, 2019, 11:25:58 AM
Great to see big Domhall Nugent back doing damage in the Saffron jersey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2019, 11:54:24 AM
It'd be great to get a big physical presence in the forward line McManus aside. Badly needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2019, 12:06:48 PM
I see on twitter Watson retired. He was some talent. Thought he maybe had a year or two in him but he's done plenty anyway. I think he's taking up motocross.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 03, 2019, 01:39:36 PM
seen that as well. fantastic hurler in his day, one of the best forwards about but his best days are by him now. Age gets everyone at some stage in this game.

but here you never know with him. id not be surprised to see him reappear again at some stage in the season lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jesusjones on December 03, 2019, 04:12:58 PM
Watson is still one of the best forwards in Ulster. If Loughgiel had got him more ball in the County Semi Final they probably would have beat Dunloy. I suspect he'll hurl again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2019, 01:27:45 PM
decent showing from the lads at the weekend against Galway. seems to be a good solid squad of players in the panel and they are all buying into whats going on. promising signs for the year ahead if we have all those players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on December 17, 2019, 02:30:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2019, 01:27:45 PM
decent showing from the lads at the weekend against Galway. seems to be a good solid squad of players in the panel and they are all buying into whats going on. promising signs for the year ahead if we have all those players
Expected to see a few more of your men involved, are they taking a break?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2019, 08:40:31 AM
keelan molloy and coby will be back in the fold at the start of the year. Nicky mc keague, ryan elliot, ryan mcgarry, Eoin O'Neill, Ronan molloy & phelim duffin are all there at the moment.

good amount of them involved now, the most we've had for a long time.

Its a really good panel we have there now with the best of the club hurlers about. Neil mcmanus, james mc naughton, eoin campbell, gerard walsh, conor johnston etc etc. fantastic players and they are all putting their shoulder to the wheel with the commitment and training.

encouraging signs so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2019, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on December 17, 2019, 02:30:09 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 17, 2019, 01:27:45 PM
decent showing from the lads at the weekend against Galway. seems to be a good solid squad of players in the panel and they are all buying into whats going on. promising signs for the year ahead if we have all those players
Expected to see a few more of your men involved, are they taking a break?

I thought there was plenty, more than some other clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on December 18, 2019, 09:23:42 AM
Where should Antrim Rank overall? Top..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 18, 2019, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on December 18, 2019, 09:23:42 AM
Where should Antrim Rank overall? Top..

In terms of where?

Joe McDonagh is very tough to call next year. Carlow will be a tough, as will westmeath. it all depends how antrim fare during the league and what way we are in terms of the panel at that stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2019, 10:56:18 AM
To be honest the teams at the top are too strong for us. We would want a couple of wins and to avoid relegation. Final a big bonus.

Developing younger players a big thing I think too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on December 18, 2019, 11:20:48 AM
Donal Nugent will be a big plus for Antrim this year. He had a fine game on Sunday and will only improve as the year goes on. Great to see him back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2019, 05:50:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 18, 2019, 10:56:18 AM
To be honest the teams at the top are too strong for us. We would want a couple of wins and to avoid relegation. Final a big bonus.

Developing younger players a big thing I think too.

The teams above Antrim have been 4 or 5 points better, they managed to get their scores a little easier, we need to close that gap of 4/5 points and that's the target for any manager.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
Westmeath or Laois were a good bit better. A much bigger gap than4 or 5 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2019, 06:20:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 20, 2019, 06:12:13 PM
Westmeath or Laois were a good bit better. A much bigger gap than4 or 5 points.

They manage to score easier, we worked for all our scores against them, we need to be be that bit smarter during play, I've watched these teams and their use of ball is better but the results last year were close, there wasn't any hammerings.

The squad is far better this year and better than last few years to be fair, hopefully the results improve
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2019, 08:00:31 PM
The Laois game was a bit of a hammering. Westmeath were comfortably better than us too. I agree though- I think the squad is much better and some of the better players are very young so will hopefully have developed a lot from last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2019, 11:27:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 20, 2019, 08:00:31 PM
The Laois game was a bit of a hammering. Westmeath were comfortably better than us too. I agree though- I think the squad is much better and some of the better players are very young so will hopefully have developed a lot from last year.

We missed a penalty and they (Laois) scored 1-1 before we scored. We only played one half that day. But I get what you're saying, we are better than the results, starting to sound like Bannside!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 21, 2019, 08:49:58 AM
 :D I agree with being positive but we are a bit off the level of the top few teams in the Christy ring so to me we aren't going to win it and thinking that is unrealistic imo but we would want to maybe take a scalp of a bigger team and also not be fighting relegation on the last day. That would be success.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 21, 2019, 08:49:58 AM
:D I agree with being positive but we are a bit off the level of the top few teams in the Christy ring so to me we aren't going to win it and thinking that is unrealistic imo but we would want to maybe take a scalp of a bigger team and also not be fighting relegation on the last day. That would be success.

Joe McD cup is a cracking level for us, fighting relegation and nearly playing in the final shows you how the GAA have got it right, the most competitive competition and the best building blocks for div1.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 21, 2019, 12:06:28 PM
Sorry I meant the joe McD.

Yep fully agree - it has been a fantastic competition. For too long teams around our level have been left winning easy one day and getting annihilated the next. Works well and definitely something the Gaa have got right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 24, 2019, 11:42:04 PM
 Nollag sona dhuit Aontroim gaels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 25, 2019, 10:09:48 AM
Merry Christmas everyone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 02, 2020, 08:51:21 AM
ah christ the reality check, back to work today!! lol hope you all had a good holiday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 02, 2020, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?

I think they will lose by 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 02, 2020, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?

Chatting to a few lads from our own club, ballycastle and loughgiel and they are all loving the set up and the training. ive heard nothing but good things from the players and it gives good positive vibes to push on this year again.

The league will be competitive and hard, the Joe McDonagh is very competitive and hard to win and its a good place for us to try and improve. Look at the likes to Laois and Carlow and what they have done. it shows that it can be done when everyone is pulling the same way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on January 04, 2020, 05:51:56 PM
Mc Gurk Cup/Kehoe Cup on Ulster Facebook this evening at 7pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 05, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2020, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 02, 2020, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?

I think they will lose by 15
Good shout.

Sometimes you get them right. Not sure about tomorrow, I'll go for Ballyhale by 12
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2020, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 05, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2020, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 02, 2020, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?

I think they will lose by 15
Good shout.

Sometimes you get them right. Not sure about tomorrow, I'll go for Ballyhale by 12

I'm heading down, I was hoping for a closer game but after yesterday's Ulster results I think you might be right, bookies gave it Ballyhale minus 11 or 12 in other shops. Thought Coleraine would have given it a better show.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
Ballyhale's forward line is phenomenal. I couldn't see anyone getting close to them. They'd beat most county teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2020, 11:18:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 05, 2020, 11:05:58 AM
Ballyhale's forward line is phenomenal. I couldn't see anyone getting close to them. They'd beat most county teams.

They are a great team and have plenty experience too, but S'neil dismantled Dunloy very easily and I was very impressed with their first touch, strength and once they got into their rhythm their shot selection was very good.

I'm going for them to beat the handicap score
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2020, 08:52:03 AM
great game yday to be at. Thought that Sneill were fantastic from start to finish. their work rate was immense and a joy to watch

Sneill played with a sweeper from the start of the game but Ballyhale didn't change anything at all and still were causing problems. Id say that Ballyhale didn't think they would have to dig as deep as that to get over the line.

Sneill were into all sorts of silly nonsense at times of throwing sticks away, even standing on one once and breaking it but the Ballyhale lads didn't bite at all and kept hurling away.

Id say it will take some beating to get past the derry men thins year again for whoever comes out of Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on January 06, 2020, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2020, 08:52:03 AM
great game yday to be at. Thought that Sneill were fantastic from start to finish. their work rate was immense and a joy to watch

Sneill played with a sweeper from the start of the game but Ballyhale didn't change anything at all and still were causing problems. Id say that Ballyhale didn't think they would have to dig as deep as that to get over the line.

Sneill were into all sorts of silly nonsense at times of throwing sticks away, even standing on one once and breaking it but the Ballyhale lads didn't bite at all and kept hurling away.

Id say it will take some beating to get past the derry men thins year again for whoever comes out of Antrim.
I'm all for anything to win and all that but if ever a man deserved a red card/head slapped off him was sneill number 7. Threw a stick away on 3 occasions and snapped one over his knee.. never seen anything scummier on a pitch.

That aside, ballyhale had to dig deep but they still didn't look at all panicked at any time of the game. When Rodgers scored that peach of a goal they simply just stuck to their style and pulled away once again. Classy outfit and it will be some final.

I think sneill going out of the football early in Derry allowed their main men to focus on the hurling and that might've been why they were convincing in the ulster championship. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
yeah he raked his studs down his leg at one stage as well but the KK lad never retaliated once, in fact none of them did. they are a well drilled unit and you can see that in them.

Cormac O'Doherty was very quiet the whole game. i was expecting him to show up well but other than frees he didnt have an impact on the game. Rodgers was fantastic and i thought Cassidy in the corner had a good game. Over all Sneill will be happy and disappointed with the result and will feel they have it in them to get into a final.

That depends on the football as well as they are prob good to win it this year after last years disappointment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 06, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
yeah he raked his studs down his leg at one stage as well but the KK lad never retaliated once, in fact none of them did. they are a well drilled unit and you can see that in them.

Cormac O'Doherty was very quiet the whole game. i was expecting him to show up well but other than frees he didnt have an impact on the game. Rodgers was fantastic and i thought Cassidy in the corner had a good game. Over all Sneill will be happy and disappointed with the result and will feel they have it in them to get into a final.

That depends on the football as well as they are prob good to win it this year after last years disappointment.

I watched it on TV, Cormac was unreal, unbelievable amount of dirty ball dug out by him and recycled through the whole game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 06, 2020, 10:35:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2020, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 05, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 04, 2020, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 02, 2020, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: saffman on January 02, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
2020 and hopefully a good year for the county!
McGurk final on sunday be a good pre-season game for our boys against down. Things seem to be shaping up well in terms of personnel back in the squad again etc
Best of luck to the St Endas team on saturday.
What do people think of their chances against the kilkenny side?

I think they will lose by 15
Good shout.

Sometimes you get them right. Not sure about tomorrow, I'll go for Ballyhale by 12

I'm heading down, I was hoping for a closer game but after yesterday's Ulster results I think you might be right, bookies gave it Ballyhale minus 11 or 12 in other shops. Thought Coleraine would have given it a better show.

Very happy that I was so wrong on Slaughtneil game. I had Coleraine down to win narrowly, I just thought their physicality/experience would make a difference at this level, but they do have some  weak links and this guy Joe Bergin seems to very very good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2020, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 06, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 06, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
yeah he raked his studs down his leg at one stage as well but the KK lad never retaliated once, in fact none of them did. they are a well drilled unit and you can see that in them.

Cormac O'Doherty was very quiet the whole game. i was expecting him to show up well but other than frees he didnt have an impact on the game. Rodgers was fantastic and i thought Cassidy in the corner had a good game. Over all Sneill will be happy and disappointed with the result and will feel they have it in them to get into a final.

That depends on the football as well as they are prob good to win it this year after last years disappointment.

I watched it on TV, Cormac was unreal, unbelievable amount of dirty ball dug out by him and recycled through the whole game.

well im maybe doing him a disservice, he did get onto a lot of dirty ball and recycle it throughout the hour. i think hes a brilliant hurler and him and TJ's free taking contest was a joy to watch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 10:47:57 AM
I did have to laugh when Rodgers pointed in the first half and TJ Reid happened to run past him so Rodgers roared in his face. He did look a bit surprised ;D

Some effort from Slaughtneil all the same.. I see Brendan Maher's point seems to have gone viral on social media. I didn't really see much of either game but hoping for a tight final. Maher is some leader - almost hope for him they win but it's KK and Tipp teams so not too bothered who wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 06, 2020, 10:51:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 10:47:57 AM
I did have to laugh when Rodgers pointed in the first half and TJ Reid happened to run past him so Rodgers roared in his face. He did look a bit surprised ;D

Some effort from Slaughtneil all the same.. I see Brendan Maher's point seems to have gone viral on social media. I didn't really see much of either game but hoping for a tight final. Maher is some leader - almost hope for him they win but it's KK and Tipp teams so not too bothered who wins.

It's a long, long time since a Tipp team have gotten into the senior club final let alone win it, could well be the early 90's IIRC.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2020, 10:56:02 AM
Borris-Ileigh were the last Tipp team to win it in 87 which is unreal to think of when you consider how strong their county team has been. Toomevara were the last team in a final in 1994
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 11:15:25 AM
You look at how many county boys Thurles has and this team don't seem to have many at all. It looks like one starter? (maybe two)

Thurles should have done so much better over the years. So should Ballygunner. Possibly a munster club team thing though as bar Newtownshandrum (spelling) there maybe haven't been that many that successful in the past long time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 11:32:57 AM
Of course I forgot about Na Piarsiagh...

Munster teams not that successful in the AI though considering the strength of hurling there and how many Liam McCarthy's they have.

Looking at the records they won nearly every one in the 70s.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on January 06, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
Whats the craic with that McKaigue fella in midfield? Any time he won a free or simply struck a ball without being hooked he was cheering and tensing in the Ballyhale lads faces? Seemed like it was in Sneill plan to get in Ballyhales faces and force them into discipline mistakes which didn't ever seem like it was going to happen. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2020, 11:36:32 AM
The throwing away of the sticks was childish, but regardless of that (I've seen it in plenty games up here) S'Neil were a puck of the ball away from winning this game up, until Fennelly who basically bulldozed his way in for two cracking goals (they were hanging off him!). Now no one had given S'neil a chance to be within 12 points of this Ballyhale team.

I thought Ballyhale last day out were struggling to get away from the Carlow team in the final, but they have quality throughout the pitch and never panic and that's what gets them over the line, as for the later game, well what can you say about Maher, he's outstanding, his ability to get on the ball in all areas of the pitch is awesome.

As DR says the next Antrim champions to come up against S'neil will be up against it from the start, teams have to be able to play the sweeper system better, it was keeping S'neil in the game but they needed to break away from it with about 10 minutes to go to give it a go, and have a chance of winning.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
Fennelly is as strong a player as is about. He does the same in county hurling too unless teams get a few boys round him to bottle him up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 06, 2020, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
Fennelly is as strong a player as is about. He does the same in county hurling too unless teams get a few boys round him to bottle him up.

His touch wasn't that great last year at IC and allowed teams to get the required flicks and so in to prevent him gaining possession but that looked a lot better yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2020, 11:47:51 AM
His goal in the final last year was one of the best I've ever seen (the diving one) but yeah he wasn't quite as good I think you're right. He is a tough boy to watch. He won't score loads of points but when he gets the ball there's real danger unless you get him surrounded or dispossessed pretty sharpish.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 06, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
Went down to match and was worth the trip. Wasn't a 5 point game and fennelly likes his extra steps. Having said that if someone is pulling at you then it's good ref work to let it go.
Sneil are for sure the best team in Ulster and it's great to have them there from an Antrim perspective.
If the Antrim champs can beat Sneil then they could be competitive in all Ireland matches.
Thought Joey Holden needs a mention, kept sniel 14 very quiet by attacking the ball and not the man
Over all a great game in the conditions and some great scores. Rogers goal the best score of the day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 06, 2020, 12:15:13 PM
Any one else think that it was strange that SN were getting pulled up on their tackling style?
That is the way they have played and tackled all the way through their campaigns rightly or wrongly and yesterday was the first time that I have seen a ref consistently punish them for it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 06, 2020, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 06, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
Went down to match and was worth the trip. Wasn't a 5 point game and fennelly likes his extra steps. Having said that if someone is pulling at you then it's good ref work to let it go.
Sneil are for sure the best team in Ulster and it's great to have them there from an Antrim perspective.
If the Antrim champs can beat Sneil then they could be competitive in all Ireland matches.
Thought Joey Holden needs a mention, kept sniel 14 very quiet by attacking the ball and not the man
Over all a great game in the conditions and some great scores. Rogers goal the best score of the day

Holden was superb, as was the No.4 in beside him. no one panics on the ball ever and they can all pass it out with confidence.

i thought the ref had a great game and was consistent throughout the hour. He seemed to play the advantage rule to perfection and let it go when needed.

Rodgers goal was fantastic. what a score and it gave the game some finish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Nightyawk on January 10, 2020, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: Pearse Blue on January 06, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
Whats the craic with that McKaigue fella in midfield? Any time he won a free or simply struck a ball without being hooked he was cheering and tensing in the Ballyhale lads faces? Seemed like it was in Sneill plan to get in Ballyhales faces and force them into discipline mistakes which didn't ever seem like it was going to happen.
Yes suppose Antrim hurling teams are well renowned for playing hurling and not slabbering and getting in each others faces. Slaughtneil knew they were outclassed in hurling ability and had to try other tactics to level playing field, surely nothing wrong with that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2020, 10:14:20 AM
I like the look of that lineup for the Offaly game. McManus, Molloy and McNaughton all starting and Johnstons back too. We may or may not win but at least it looks like our best players are in there which is a good start.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2020, 01:07:08 PM
Have Offaly improved?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2020, 03:40:22 PM
Beaten by one point, Antrim couldn't get in front during this game, was hoping for a win in this cup, gets you into the Walsh cup the following year I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 13, 2020, 08:58:00 AM
by all accounts we played well enough. when you consider that Keelan and James have barely played a game they both got through the game rightly. add to that we have Ciaran Clarke to add back in there, conal cunning etc we have a good solid panel of players.

I know we wont lose any sleep over the Keohe Cup but it was good to see us get so many games in the build up to the League start at the end of the month. Offaly will be the team to beat in our league this year, along with Kerry, so its good to get a barometer of where we are against them at the moment.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2020, 08:50:54 AM
Start of the league this weekend away to Wicklow then home to Mayo. those are two games that you would be wanting us to be winning before a tough game away to Offaly.

I dont think you can use the Keohe Cup game as much of a yardstick but on paper we should be beating them. With the Cdall lads back, the Johnnies players along with G Walsh etc all in the squad its prob the strongest panel we have had in the last few seasons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 23, 2020, 10:10:30 AM
Any Antrim clubs entering Martin Fogarty's U13 and U15 Tain leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2020, 10:53:15 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 23, 2020, 08:50:54 AM
Start of the league this weekend away to Wicklow then home to Mayo. those are two games that you would be wanting us to be winning before a tough game away to Offaly.

I dont think you can use the Keohe Cup game as much of a yardstick but on paper we should be beating them. With the Cdall lads back, the Johnnies players along with G Walsh etc all in the squad its prob the strongest panel we have had in the last few seasons.

Its the best opening games we could have hoped for to be honest. Heading down to the Offaly game hopefully, (though I'm ref'ing the winter league so hopefully no games) and I'd like to see us put a marker down for the league with a win their. The main thing this year should be the Joe McDonagh cup in fairness, it has the biggest prize at the end of it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 23, 2020, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 13, 2020, 08:58:00 AM
by all accounts we played well enough. when you consider that Keelan and James have barely played a game they both got through the game rightly. add to that we have Ciaran Clarke to add back in there, conal cunning etc we have a good solid panel of players.

I know we wont lose any sleep over the Keohe Cup but it was good to see us get so many games in the build up to the League start at the end of the month. Offaly will be the team to beat in our league this year, along with Kerry, so its good to get a barometer of where we are against them at the moment.

Whats the story with Ciarán Clarke. Has he been injured or is working away???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 23, 2020, 04:33:11 PM
Last i heard Clarkey was injured just. Maybe some of the BC lads would know for 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2020, 07:43:21 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/i-hit-the-table-and-blew-the-cups-and-saucers-away-breaking-about-half-a-dozen-980246.html?fbclid=IwAR3GTrB-nZafVuVjfpi3VG_02jR0VskDCzoGBkmsVh7y7KsJOQu07G4qYe4 (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/i-hit-the-table-and-blew-the-cups-and-saucers-away-breaking-about-half-a-dozen-980246.html?fbclid=IwAR3GTrB-nZafVuVjfpi3VG_02jR0VskDCzoGBkmsVh7y7KsJOQu07G4qYe4)

Great article. Not even sure I knew this happened in1970.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on February 08, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Group 1
St.Johns, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Rossa
Group 2
Cushendall, Loughuile, st endas, st galls

Obv the group setting doesnt allow much for an 'upset' as such...
However certainly room for clubs to break into that top 4
Im sure ballycastle & rossa will be eyeing eachother up similarly and st endas and st galls in group 2.

Personally i feel Rossa or ballycastle on their day could turn over one of the big guns, whats peoples thoughts on something similar happening in group 2??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on February 08, 2020, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: saffman on February 08, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Group 1
St.Johns, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Rossa
Group 2
Cushendall, Loughuile, st endas, st galls

Obv the group setting doesnt allow much for an 'upset' as such...
However certainly room for clubs to break into that top 4
Im sure ballycastle & rossa will be eyeing eachother up similarly and st endas and st galls in group 2.

Personally i feel Rossa or ballycastle on their day could turn over one of the big guns, whats peoples thoughts on something similar happening in group 2??

Is the game v Tipp in Belfast an all-ticket game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
Pretty sure it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 02:33:39 PM
That Davitts setup looks a lot better than corrigan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 03:09:51 PM
Draw!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 02:33:39 PM
That Davitts setup looks a lot better than corrigan.

It is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 02:33:39 PM
That Davitts setup looks a lot better than corrigan.

It is

Have you been at it?

It's a brilliant set up, it's been built on my old school pitch, been said already Davitts have had to wait a long time to get the right area, from the Falls park to Twinbrook, Davitt's hadn't an actual home venue.

The amazing work the committee and everyone else involved with them has produced a great set up, unfortunately space in Belfast is at a premium so parking will always be tight at these venues.

Corrigan's first phase up and running, it'll be hosting the finals provided the Johnny's aren't in them until (if ever) Casement is built. Even then it's not a guarantee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 05:26:34 PM
It is great to see. Corrigan needs a lot of work with the stand having been kicked down. Hopefully it will get that over the next few years.

I haven't been at the davitts ground but the photos look great.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2020, 07:23:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2020, 02:33:39 PM
That Davitts setup looks a lot better than corrigan.

It is

Have you been at it?

It's a brilliant set up, it's been built on my old school pitch, been said already Davitts have had to wait a long time to get the right area, from the Falls park to Twinbrook, Davitt's hadn't an actual home venue.

The amazing work the committee and everyone else involved with them has produced a great set up, unfortunately space in Belfast is at a premium so parking will always be tight at these venues.

Corrigan's first phase up and running, it'll be hosting the finals provided the Johnny's aren't in them until (if ever) Casement is built. Even then it's not a guarantee

Yes, today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 10, 2020, 11:50:39 AM
was at the game on saturday and was very impressed with their set up and facilities. pitch looked in fantastic shape as well which made the game very fast paced for a friendly.

Was stood up on the hill at the corner flag and had a perfect view of the game. this will hopefully really give the club a big boost going forward into the future. you can see what it meant to their members and the blooms of this are now being seen with Davitts fielding a senior camogie team this year for the first time.

things like this can give a club a real lift and help to build it. long may it continue for them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 15, 2020, 03:17:35 AM
Quote from: saffman on February 08, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Group 1
St.Johns, Dunloy, Ballycastle, Rossa
Group 2
Cushendall, Loughuile, st endas, st galls

Obv the group setting doesnt allow much for an 'upset' as such...
However certainly room for clubs to break into that top 4
Im sure ballycastle & rossa will be eyeing eachother up similarly and st endas and st galls in group 2.

Personally i feel Rossa or ballycastle on their day could turn over one of the big guns, whats peoples thoughts on something similar happening in group 2??

What way does the groups work. Is it top 2 in each into semi final with 1st in group 1 playing runners up in group 2 and vice versa it will semi's be a draw again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on February 15, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
Offaly games called off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on February 26, 2020, 02:40:29 PM
Massive game this weekend for our Hurlers. A win and we basically guarantee ourselves a final spot. Won't be an easy game and can't see us winning by the 14 points we beat them by in last years Joe McDonagh game, if we can keep Shane Conway relatively quiet I think we can get the win by 3 or 4 points   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 26, 2020, 03:43:09 PM
if you go by the results you would think that we should have a good chance of winning the game.

meath gave offaly and kerry a hard game on each occasion yet we dispatched them with ease. yes they had two sent off but we were probably a better team prior to that.

a win means that we can play offaly knowing that the pressures on them to get the win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 09:59:20 AM
Really is a big game today. I think we will be in for a real battle. Kerry when at full strength don't give us anything easy. We are going in the right direction at least and hopefully today shows us how much but I think it will be a tough one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2020, 10:11:54 AM
The last time I seen Kerry play us was at Corrigan in. The league a couple years ago, they dispatched us easily enough I thought that day, physically they were big than us and technically matched us  all over the park.

I'd be happy with a one point win or even a draw!

Good luck, game starts at 12.30 so twitter will be way unless it's being covered on radio
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 01, 2020, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2020, 10:11:54 AM
The last time I seen Kerry play us was at Corrigan in. The league a couple years ago, they dispatched us easily enough I thought that day, physically they were big than us and technically matched us  all over the park.

I'd be happy with a one point win or even a draw!

Good luck, game starts at 12.30 so twitter will be way unless it's being covered on radio

Maybe Radio Kerry covering it??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2020, 10:11:54 AM
The last time I seen Kerry play us was at Corrigan in. The league a couple years ago, they dispatched us easily enough I thought that day, physically they were big than us and technically matched us  all over the park.

I'd be happy with a one point win or even a draw!

Good luck, game starts at 12.30 so twitter will be way unless it's being covered on radio

They hammered us though we were missing a lot too. Full back was a mountain of a man and one of their forwards - presumably Conway - tore us apart. Won't be easy won down there but hopefully we can do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 01, 2020, 12:12:27 PM
Is there live commentary for Kerry match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: angermanagement on March 01, 2020, 12:51:33 PM
https://radiokerry.ie/wp-content/plugins/harpoon-radioplayer/radiokerry/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 02:23:58 PM
That's a good win. Kerry are a tough team for us to beat and looks like we beat them well,ish, too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 01, 2020, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 02:23:58 PM
That's a good win. Kerry are a tough team for us to beat and looks like we beat them well,ish, too.

How many of their regular players missed out because of the mumps? Nonetheless, a great win away from home.

Antrim on a roll.
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 02:23:58 PM
That's a good win. Kerry are a tough team for us to beat and looks like we beat them well,ish, too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on March 01, 2020, 05:08:21 PM
They were missing 3. Shane Conway was one of them. What date is the league final now? Was meant to be next weekend but our refixed game vs Offaly moved to then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2020, 03:49:55 PM
What a come back for the boys! Some fight in this team! Behind for most of the game

Kerry Antrim final, still a very tough game once those couple of Kerry lads come back
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 08, 2020, 10:09:29 PM
So David Kearney plays for Antrim but not Cushendall ??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 09, 2020, 09:17:42 AM
when are the venues being fixed for the League Finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2020, 09:58:25 AM
has there any dates been set for the final?

i seen on the sunday game we actually got a mention for a change. no cameras bothered to be there to get any footage of the game which is par for the course but it was yet again all about the decline of offaly rather than the fact that Antrim went unbeaten and were the best team in the league.

fantastic times to be an antrim fan with the footballers also doing well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 09, 2020, 09:58:25 AM
has there any dates been set for the final?

i seen on the sunday game we actually got a mention for a change. no cameras bothered to be there to get any footage of the game which is par for the course but it was yet again all about the decline of offaly rather than the fact that Antrim went unbeaten and were the best team in the league.

fantastic times to be an antrim fan with the footballers also doing well.

Kerry in the final.

I presume it's only the winners that go up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 09, 2020, 10:06:41 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 09, 2020, 09:58:25 AM
has there any dates been set for the final?

i seen on the sunday game we actually got a mention for a change. no cameras bothered to be there to get any footage of the game which is par for the course but it was yet again all about the decline of offaly rather than the fact that Antrim went unbeaten and were the best team in the league.

fantastic times to be an antrim fan with the footballers also doing well.

From what was said the games were to be on this coming weekend Saturday or Sunday with venues to be sorted out, Cummins was calling for them to be in Croke.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2020, 10:13:01 AM
yeah i seen that. would be nice if it was in Croke Park for a day out at headquarters.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2020, 10:15:39 AM
Yes JC winners only I think. Same with the Derry Down game.

i would hope for Croker.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 12:17:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 09, 2020, 10:15:39 AM
Yes JC winners only I think. Same with the Derry Down game.

i would hope for Croker.

And get Parnell instead  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 09, 2020, 01:19:05 PM
game confirmed for Croke Park on sunday for 1pm for Antrim v Kerry.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 09, 2020, 01:19:05 PM
game confirmed for Croke Park on sunday for 1pm for Antrim v Kerry.

Fixtures out for football on Sunday, think I'd prefer to go to Croker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 01:24:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 09, 2020, 01:19:05 PM
game confirmed for Croke Park on sunday for 1pm for Antrim v Kerry.

Fixtures out for football on Sunday, think I'd prefer to go to Croker

Warm up game for Dublin, Meath in the football.

Always good to get a competitive run out on Croke Park.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Are all the S'neil lads available for Derry? have they played in the league this season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Are all the S'neil lads available for Derry? have they played in the league this season?

4-6 playing
Sean Tad, Seán O Caiside, Se McGuigan, Cormac O'Doherty and maybe few others. Young team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 09, 2020, 03:21:45 PM
I was looking at that yesterday. I think I counted 5 or 6? O'Doherty seems to be the main scoring threat - always looked a useful hurler. (McGrath, two Cassidys and a McGuigan in corner forward were the others if I recall rightly)

Did Derry win the first game? Looking on RTE Derry and Kildare both have a game to play or is that just not updated?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Are all the S'neil lads available for Derry? have they played in the league this season?

The first game Derry won by 2 points IIRC and I don't think the S'neill lads were playing, can't be sure.

Derry will be favourites but Down despatched Kildare a lot easier than Derry did at the weekend and will have a fighting chance!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Are all the S'neil lads available for Derry? have they played in the league this season?

The first game Derry won by 2 points IIRC and I don't think the S'neill lads were playing, can't be sure.

Derry will be favourites but Down despatched Kildare a lot easier than Derry did at the weekend and will have a fighting chance!

More or less same team yesterday that played Down in Celtic Park few months back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Any danger of the game being called off?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 07:11:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Any danger of the game being called off?

Could well be but I hope not, we've got serious momentum at the minute and the game can't come quick enough!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 09, 2020, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 07:11:39 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 09, 2020, 07:07:54 PM
Any danger of the game being called off?

Could well be but I hope not, we've got serious momentum at the minute and the game can't come quick enough!

Exactly. A few football fixtures also fixed for the weekend, maybe some nice lads or ladies would call them off so all could attend Croke!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

Was alright for Tipp and Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

Was alright for Tipp and Antrim!

Heard that the Tipp keeper could have pucked it the full length of the pitch but was pulling it short...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 10, 2020, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

Just looked at photos when I was at Tipp game & theres about a metre between the two 65s
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2020, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

Was alright for Tipp and Antrim!

Heard that the Tipp keeper could have pucked it the full length of the pitch but was pulling it short...

I'd assume if you are making a pitch with a stand and looking to get Championship games you'll make it full length, I mean the size of pitches are known to all clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 10, 2020, 11:12:54 AM
Tight pitch will suit us.

Where is the pitch anyhow?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 10, 2020, 11:14:28 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

The only other pitch in Antrim that could have hosted the Down Derry match was Portglenone and Ronan Sheehan was in no way allowing that venue due to the fact that Derry is a stone's throw across the Bann.

Id say the Athletic Grounds wouldn't be in great shape either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 10, 2020, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 10, 2020, 11:12:54 AM
Tight pitch will suit us.

Where is the pitch anyhow?

I think Amcomri Street in Beechmount is how to get into the Davitts pitch.

Milltown Row or one of the Westies could give precise directions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2020, 11:25:47 AM
go up Beechmount street and turn left onto Clowney Street and head up to the top of it through St Marys Gardens and the pitch entrance is there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 10, 2020, 11:12:54 AM
Tight pitch will suit us.

Where is the pitch anyhow?

Right beside Divis tower. Park there and walk to the ground.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 10, 2020, 11:14:28 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

The only other pitch in Antrim that could have hosted the Down Derry match was Portglenone and Ronan Sheehan was in no way allowing that venue due to the fact that Derry is a stone's throw across the Bann.

Id say the Athletic Grounds wouldn't be in great shape either.

The Dub not available?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 10, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 10, 2020, 11:14:28 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2020, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 09, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Down, Derry game set for Davitt Park in Belfast.

Is it a good job there now?

yep.

How do you see it going? Down seem to have picked up a head of steam

Was told last night that Down may be querying the size of the pitch as Davitts is meant to be very short but it's bound to be at least 130 metres.

Not sure if there's any truth in that TBH.

The only other pitch in Antrim that could have hosted the Down Derry match was Portglenone and Ronan Sheehan was in no way allowing that venue due to the fact that Derry is a stone's throw across the Bann.

Id say the Athletic Grounds wouldn't be in great shape either.

The Dub not available?

feck it, we will play yous in Portaferry, no odds to us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 10, 2020, 01:24:56 PM
seeing this spread of the virus now there are people asking the question if its wise to be allowing so many people to travel to Dublin for the game on Sunday.

we have 2 buses of kids going (around 100 of them) and id say there will be parents asking the same question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 10, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2020, 01:24:56 PM
seeing this spread of the virus now there are people asking the question if its wise to be allowing so many people to travel to Dublin for the game on Sunday.

we have 2 buses of kids going (around 100 of them) and id say there will be parents asking the same question.
Brendan Crossan tweeting something similar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 11, 2020, 10:29:57 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on March 10, 2020, 01:24:56 PM
seeing this spread of the virus now there are people asking the question if its wise to be allowing so many people to travel to Dublin for the game on Sunday.

we have 2 buses of kids going (around 100 of them) and id say there will be parents asking the same question.

There'll be plenty of room in Croke Park to practice "social distancing"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 03, 2020, 03:32:39 PM
Irish News Sports Editor : Brendan your column is late

Brendan Crossan to himself "f**k I better ring Sambo for the 25th time"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
I saw on his twitter feed he had sambo i the top 5 hurlers he'd ever seen. I would have a lot of time for Sambo so absolutely not slating him but he seems to have latched on like you joke about there. There are probably cushendall people who would have 5 cushendall players ahead of him!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2020, 11:05:05 PM
I heard he was the one person to stay in Sambos new rooms above the bar.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 15, 2020, 02:54:37 PM
Irish News.. "Brendan, we need an article"

Brendan " I'll ring Sambos house and interview whoever answers the phone"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on May 15, 2020, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 15, 2020, 02:54:37 PM
Irish News.. "Brendan, we need an article"

Brendan " I'll ring Sambos house and interview whoever answers the phone"

It is farcical at this stage
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2020, 03:49:26 PM
It used to be the same with kevin mcgourty. We get sandwiches and not pasta after training was one article.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2020, 05:36:08 PM
Its poor/lazy journo's rather than poor interviewees, its been a slow period for GAA so its a case of get a piece down, haven't read it nor will I, unless someone puts it up for free ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on May 15, 2020, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2020, 05:36:08 PM
Its poor/lazy journo's rather than poor interviewees, its been a slow period for GAA so its a case of get a piece down, haven't read it nor will I, unless someone puts it up for free ;)

Of course it is, people like Sambo will never say "oh I have nothing to say". Crossans credibility is going through the floor in my opinion, not that I was a fan to start with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 19, 2020, 11:07:23 AM
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2020, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2020, 11:07:23 AM
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.

Here's the thing, you'd be a fool not to promote your own club/parish with some columns in a national paper.

It's up to Brendan and core to through out a wider net for people to be interviewed, though in fairness what can we talk about? It's dead! The Saffron Gael quiz is the best thing going on locally lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 20, 2020, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2020, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2020, 11:07:23 AM
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.

Here's the thing, you'd be a fool not to promote your own club/parish with some columns in a national paper.

It's up to Brendan and core to through out a wider net for people to be interviewed, though in fairness what can we talk about? It's dead! The Saffron Gael quiz is the best thing going on locally lol

Thats true but when lads are getting at him on twitter asking does he do that many interviews in Cdall to justify having a caravan there its telling a tale lol  ;D

The Saffron Gael is the best there is about for any new on Antrim GAA. Curly is always looking for new stories and for old ones to visit.

Id love to see more like that from our club teams in All ireland action - like is no footage of Ballycastle, Loughgiel and Rossa's club finals about? in the 80's? We have a fair nbit of our games up on our own YouTube channel (including a football semi final against yourselves back in 1990) but id like to see other clubs games.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2020, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 20, 2020, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2020, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 19, 2020, 11:07:23 AM
i seen that as well lol it was a laughing topic for a few chats im in about the constant interviews with them.

Its almost like hurling doesn't exist in Antrim outside of that small circle he interviews at times in the irish news.

Here's the thing, you'd be a fool not to promote your own club/parish with some columns in a national paper.

It's up to Brendan and core to through out a wider net for people to be interviewed, though in fairness what can we talk about? It's dead! The Saffron Gael quiz is the best thing going on locally lol

Thats true but when lads are getting at him on twitter asking does he do that many interviews in Cdall to justify having a caravan there its telling a tale lol  ;D

The Saffron Gael is the best there is about for any new on Antrim GAA. Curly is always looking for new stories and for old ones to visit.

Id love to see more like that from our club teams in All ireland action - like is no footage of Ballycastle, Loughgiel and Rossa's club finals about? in the 80's? We have a fair nbit of our games up on our own YouTube channel (including a football semi final against yourselves back in 1990) but id like to see other clubs games.

Ah DR send me that link please, we've been going hammer and tongs on a closed FB page for the club, some fantastic old photos of games gone by and they lead up to our quiz night on Friday nights which generally finish around 3 as the craic continues on after the quiz finish's

£5 entry and all proceeds go towards the club, trying to find all sorts of games or footage/clips of previous games. Managed to find a hurling game we played Davitts in from the mid 80's!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 21, 2020, 09:09:36 AM
Thats the link there MR2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrmX0nnTH8&t=8s

We have loads of games up on our channel now from league match, underage games, camogie matches and All ireland semis etc. I remember being at that game as well! lol was the week after we beat Ballycastle in the hurling semi final so the whole thing was buzzing still thinking we could beat yourselves. But St Galls were a very strong team back then and much more physical that our lads were.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2020, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 21, 2020, 09:09:36 AM
Thats the link there MR2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrmX0nnTH8&t=8s

We have loads of games up on our channel now from league match, underage games, camogie matches and All ireland semis etc. I remember being at that game as well! lol was the week after we beat Ballycastle in the hurling semi final so the whole thing was buzzing still thinking we could beat yourselves. But St Galls were a very strong team back then and much more physical that our lads were.
Thanks

That was a very strong team to try and get on, we'd some great footballers, beat Cargin in the lowest scoring final in Rasharkin that year, beat them again 93 with that particular team coming to an end.

I was 19 the following year and played about 3 league games for the seniors but struggled with the physicality of senior football, never really pushed on after that in fairness, was content to playing reserve football and Southy (no training required) and concentrated on a long senior hurling career (better choice  ;) )

You went on to win the hurling after a replay v Rossa, final at Loughgiel? Great win and the start of a long successful run.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 21, 2020, 10:35:44 AM
Yeah we did and when you look back on them pair of games against Rossa you realise how strong a team they were back then as well. That was a team that 2 years previous were in an All Ireland final and had a host of Antrim senior hurlers in their panel.

Ive a few paper cuttings here of games you might want as well for yourselves which ill send onto you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on May 26, 2020, 09:02:11 AM
No end to it -  :-\

@CrossanBrendan

After a couple of conversations with Shane McNaughton over the past few weeks, I persuaded him to write down some of his thoughts.

I'm glad I did. Absolutely lovely piece in the news section tomorrow.

Finding beauty in the simple things. Maith thú @Shanemcn15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 26, 2020, 12:06:31 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on May 26, 2020, 09:02:11 AM
No end to it -  :-\

@CrossanBrendan

After a couple of conversations with Shane McNaughton over the past few weeks, I persuaded him to write down some of his thoughts.

I'm glad I did. Absolutely lovely piece in the news section tomorrow.

Finding beauty in the simple things. Maith thú @Shanemcn15

It's actually not that bad of a read.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 26, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
Stay home & stay safe lads...  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2020, 04:00:09 PM
yeah he'd maybe want to stay away from writing stories about hurling in Cdall for the next while lol

ffs lads go to a field in the middle of nowhere not your own clubs pitch thats closed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 26, 2020, 07:02:56 PM
I wonder if those people from the Dall who have very vocal all weekend about visitors will turn the tide and direct it towards the club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2020, 08:57:00 PM
its known all over the place now and ive seen pictures and a video of them. the county had an email out Monday night after it warning about the pitches being closed and that teams would face being put out of the championship and players individually facing sanctions if caught training.

look i get lads are scunderred and want to train, we all do, and we want our games back again but we have to maintain what we are doing and listening to the rules of the association. just bide your time and it will be back again.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2020, 09:14:00 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 26, 2020, 07:02:56 PM
I wonder if those people from the Dall who have very vocal all weekend about visitors will turn the tide and direct it towards the club?

Whats the story here PJ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 27, 2020, 09:55:40 AM
i assume the problem is that it was on the club pitch? few lads pucking the ball about not on GAA property isn't really anything to do with the gaa?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2020, 10:19:31 AM
Can you puck a ball around a council pitch? If the lads are all living together then fine no issues I suppose
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 27, 2020, 10:26:38 AM
Dont think the issue was a few lads pucking the ball about. Think it was a manager led session on club pitch. Think that may be the issue.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 27, 2020, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 27, 2020, 10:26:38 AM
Dont think the issue was a few lads pucking the ball about. Think it was a manager led session on club pitch. Think that may be the issue.

yeah thats what the bother seems to be. it was 6 players and a coach doing a part of a session.

firstly all GAA grounds are closed and no one is allowed on them for any use at all other than to cut them/maintain them. All gatherings and training's are banned as well and it was made very clear at the outset of this and the repercussions for clubs who broke this.

As i said before i get that the lads want to train and want to be back playing again but they have got to take a reality check here about whats going on around them. GAA clubs are incapable to ensuring the safety of the players, coaches etc atm unlike the professional soccer teams can with constant testing and hygiene measures.

Im frustrated by it all, so is everyone else, and we want our games back but it will come back around again when it is fit and safe to do so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 29, 2020, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 27, 2020, 11:16:11 AM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 27, 2020, 10:26:38 AM
Dont think the issue was a few lads pucking the ball about. Think it was a manager led session on club pitch. Think that may be the issue.

yeah thats what the bother seems to be. it was 6 players and a coach doing a part of a session.

firstly all GAA grounds are closed and no one is allowed on them for any use at all other than to cut them/maintain them. All gatherings and training's are banned as well and it was made very clear at the outset of this and the repercussions for clubs who broke this.

As i said before i get that the lads want to train and want to be back playing again but they have got to take a reality check here about whats going on around them. GAA clubs are incapable to ensuring the safety of the players, coaches etc atm unlike the professional soccer teams can with constant testing and hygiene measures.

Im frustrated by it all, so is everyone else, and we want our games back but it will come back around again when it is fit and safe to do so.

This is being featured as one of the top stories in the Bel telegraph website.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 29, 2020, 11:32:41 AM
yeah im only after seeing it. It was always going to get out and esp for rags like the Bel Tel or the news letter to jump al over to get a dig at the association.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2020, 10:59:21 AM
so interesting news from the county meeting Monday about how we are going forward now.

Senior championships will go ahead along with some league games. Fixtures will be released 2/3 days after the confirmation in July with 2 weeks allowed for training and then games to start.

Championship will only be within our own county and no ulster or All Ireland series.

U21 championship not for happening.

Antrim v Kerry game a priority as well as the Joe McDonagh cup games. will mean that league games will go ahead without county players for each club.

Underage games wont go ahead but Cul camps will in August if the clubs want to run it. If they dont its not a problem.

Still clarification required about attending games, social distancing measures, will they limit attendances at games, how this is to be done, will there be no one attending the games etc etc etc

Clubs will have to be responsible for ensuring the hygiene of the changing rooms, cleaning them done, sanitising procedures etc.

All interesting points and will no doubt cause debate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 04, 2020, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 04, 2020, 10:59:21 AM
so interesting news from the county meeting Monday about how we are going forward now.

Senior championships will go ahead along with some league games. Fixtures will be released 2/3 days after the confirmation in July with 2 weeks allowed for training and then games to start.

Championship will only be within our own county and no ulster or All Ireland series.

U21 championship not for happening.

Antrim v Kerry game a priority as well as the Joe McDonagh cup games. will mean that league games will go ahead without county players for each club.

Underage games wont go ahead but Cul camps will in August if the clubs want to run it. If they dont its not a problem.

Still clarification required about attending games, social distancing measures, will they limit attendances at games, how this is to be done, will there be no one attending the games etc etc etc

Clubs will have to be responsible for ensuring the hygiene of the changing rooms, cleaning them done, sanitising procedures etc.

All interesting points and will no doubt cause debate.

good update DR, take it by senior it means adult as opposed to just the SHC and SFC? wonder what is meant by 'some league games, m they hoping to play a round of games or something similar? personally id rather they didnt play the leagues and just maybe ran the usual divisional preseason tournaments (O'Cahan Cup) etc as small groups to give teams a warm up for championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2020, 12:08:24 PM
Hopefully the players will wear masks  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 04, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
How do we think we will be ready for Cul Camps, this is amazing me no end.

We can't play under age games small sided numbers, but yet we can stick 100's of them together for hours at a time.

Just make literally no sense to me. Granted it will depend on the science at the time, but what is the mad panic for these camps when everything else has been postponed for so long.

am i missing something?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2020, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 04, 2020, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 04, 2020, 10:59:21 AM
so interesting news from the county meeting Monday about how we are going forward now.

Senior championships will go ahead along with some league games. Fixtures will be released 2/3 days after the confirmation in July with 2 weeks allowed for training and then games to start.

Championship will only be within our own county and no ulster or All Ireland series.

U21 championship not for happening.

Antrim v Kerry game a priority as well as the Joe McDonagh cup games. will mean that league games will go ahead without county players for each club.

Underage games wont go ahead but Cul camps will in August if the clubs want to run it. If they dont its not a problem.

Still clarification required about attending games, social distancing measures, will they limit attendances at games, how this is to be done, will there be no one attending the games etc etc etc

Clubs will have to be responsible for ensuring the hygiene of the changing rooms, cleaning them done, sanitising procedures etc.

All interesting points and will no doubt cause debate.

good update DR, take it by senior it means adult as opposed to just the SHC and SFC? wonder what is meant by 'some league games, m they hoping to play a round of games or something similar? personally id rather they didnt play the leagues and just maybe ran the usual divisional preseason tournaments (O'Cahan Cup) etc as small groups to give teams a warm up for championship.

by senior it was SHC, SFC, IFC, IHC, JHC & JFC. thats what my take on what i was told.

i think the idea is that it will get league games played to allow clubs some finances to be brought in, which they all need at this time.

From the chat its meanin that championships will be straight knock outs but again that isnt confirmed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2020, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
How do we think we will be ready for Cul Camps, this is amazing me no end.

We can't play under age games small sided numbers, but yet we can stick 100's of them together for hours at a time.

Just make literally no sense to me. Granted it will depend on the science at the time, but what is the mad panic for these camps when everything else has been postponed for so long.

am i missing something?

think their idea was only 100 wains at it but how can you control that and limit the no down for some clubs who have over 200 at them.

the camps are not going to be imposed on clubs, rather its their choice if they want to take it on. again these sorts of things are depanded on what things are like and what parents want to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2020, 03:46:17 PM
Last time we did a straight knockout we got to the final! Will it be a seeding type draw? If that's the case
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 04, 2020, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
How do we think we will be ready for Cul Camps, this is amazing me no end.

We can't play under age games small sided numbers, but yet we can stick 100's of them together for hours at a time.

Just make literally no sense to me. Granted it will depend on the science at the time, but what is the mad panic for these camps when everything else has been postponed for so long.

am i missing something?

think their idea was only 100 wains at it but how can you control that and limit the no down for some clubs who have over 200 at them.

the camps are not going to be imposed on clubs, rather its their choice if they want to take it on. again these sorts of things are depanded on what things are like and what parents want to do.

If schools cant/wont take kids back. How or why are you going to organsie a Cul Camp?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 04, 2020, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 04, 2020, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
How do we think we will be ready for Cul Camps, this is amazing me no end.

We can't play under age games small sided numbers, but yet we can stick 100's of them together for hours at a time.

Just make literally no sense to me. Granted it will depend on the science at the time, but what is the mad panic for these camps when everything else has been postponed for so long.

am i missing something?

think their idea was only 100 wains at it but how can you control that and limit the no down for some clubs who have over 200 at them.

the camps are not going to be imposed on clubs, rather its their choice if they want to take it on. again these sorts of things are depanded on what things are like and what parents want to do.

If schools cant/wont take kids back. How or why are you going to organsie a Cul Camp?

personally i dont see it working at all but i suppose they have to put every option out there and see what people want.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 09, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
whats everyones thoughts on how championship will go for this year?

Are we to expect a straight knock out or will they stick with the group system for senior and how it is for intermediate/Junior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2020, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 09, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
whats everyones thoughts on how championship will go for this year?

Are we to expect a straight knock out or will they stick with the group system for senior and how it is for intermediate/Junior?

I'm guessing you'll have a period of time for challenge games leading up to that date and then it might be straight knock out! Hopefully we get a handy draw like last time  ;)

It's going to be tough in fairness to run off that format quickly when trying to run of football games also, we've dual players like yourselves and asking players to train and playing twice as much as a 'half GAA man  ;) ' is the asking a bit much possibly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 09, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
lol yeah i was expecting it to be tougher for the dual clubs now and they wont want group games to be done.

I prefer the knock out system as theres no dead rubber games and theres more intensity to the games.

by the chat ive heard is that we will get some league games played off prior to the championship in both codes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: cfclg on June 10, 2020, 12:47:48 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 09, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
lol yeah i was expecting it to be tougher for the dual clubs now and they wont want group games to be done.

I prefer the knock out system as theres no dead rubber games and theres more intensity to the games.

by the chat ive heard is that we will get some league games played off prior to the championship in both codes.

If that's true and we get some league action then straight knockout is grand. However if there's no league games then group games in all cships before semi finals is a must in my opinion. There won't be dead rubber games as we haven't had any games!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
89 semi final on tg4 at 230 today. I'm recording it and never deleting it ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2020, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
89 semi final on tg4 at 230 today. I'm recording it and never deleting it ;D

Just in case it gets a ban for mentioning Sambo?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 16, 2020, 01:30:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
89 semi final on tg4 at 230 today. I'm recording it and never deleting it ;D

It gets better every time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 17, 2020, 09:33:41 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 04, 2020, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 04, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
How do we think we will be ready for Cul Camps, this is amazing me no end.

We can't play under age games small sided numbers, but yet we can stick 100's of them together for hours at a time.

Just make literally no sense to me. Granted it will depend on the science at the time, but what is the mad panic for these camps when everything else has been postponed for so long.

am i missing something?

think their idea was only 100 wains at it but how can you control that and limit the no down for some clubs who have over 200 at them.

the camps are not going to be imposed on clubs, rather its their choice if they want to take it on. again these sorts of things are depanded on what things are like and what parents want to do.

If schools cant/wont take kids back. How or why are you going to organsie a Cul Camp?

Still curious on this one lads, has there been any chat in clubs about these Cul Camps going ahead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 17, 2020, 12:59:05 PM
from what ive heard is that Antrim are still leaving it up to the clubs to decide if they want to run it. it will only be 100 children allowed to attend with things like each helper is assigned 6 kids and they arent allowed to change from them etc.

it all sounds pointless and not worth the hassle imo and i know in our club we arent wanting to run it and wont be if offered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on June 17, 2020, 01:24:52 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 17, 2020, 12:59:05 PM
from what ive heard is that Antrim are still leaving it up to the clubs to decide if they want to run it. it will only be 100 children allowed to attend with things like each helper is assigned 6 kids and they arent allowed to change from them etc.

it all sounds pointless and not worth the hassle imo and i know in our club we arent wanting to run it and wont be if offered.

I heard that they will operate two regional camps due to no of coaches available ,over the five weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 17, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
im very sceptical of bringing any underage games back again. i wouldn't be alone in our club in not wanting to play any underage this summer at all to be honest.

Theres alot of this will be put back onto parents as well if they do bring back underage. For instance if a child is coming to training they must be dropped off at the session and collected by the parent themselves. they cant say ride their bike up on their own. the parents have the responsibility for ensuring that their child's health is in order prior to them coming back to training.

The covid officer for each panel cant take training, they are responsible for making sure that everything is kept in order during training and that no one is messing around or breaking the rules.they then need to take and clean all the equipment after the session and take it all home, nothing can be stored at the club ground.

Parents have a lot of responsibility and so will each set of mentors for each panel - add to that trying to control a bunch of kids and telling them to not mess around or have fun as they usually would do at training.  Its why id be against underage coming back in Antrim atm, theres just too much of a risk to a club and individuals involved in taking teams.

Adults you can control easier and they are responsible for their own actions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
Coronavirus aside, has anyone looked at the championship draws and looked at the variations or scenarios that may happen for dual players/clubs?

You could play and senior championship quarterfinal on a Saturday and Another on the Sunday in a different code!

Now I'm all for getting the games back, I also can't wait to be involved in games but, if there's no club championship at the end of the season why are we condensing it?

I'm all for straight knockout competition, it doesn't allow for the best teams to have a bad day, there's no back door so it's he'll for leather the whole way!  Plus it reduces games!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ernesto on June 20, 2020, 12:14:37 PM
DR - you are clearly a thinking man with a firm grasp on the realities of running a club. Points made all valid and proportionate. County line appears to be that they will run competitions u16 and above, and it's over to the Divisional Boards to decide what to do with u14 down.

MR2 - again, sharp observation. The schedule will be cruel on dual players and their clubs, and particularly harsh on those with aspirations at senior championship level. There is added complexity where clubs are playing at different grades in each code. Using two dual senior clubs, St Galls and St John's, as an example, the schedule looks like this -

              St Johns     St Galls
Fri   31-Jul    SFC   
Sun   02-Aug    SFC              SFC
Wed 05-Aug                              SFC
Sun   09-Aug    SHC              SHC
Wed 12-Aug    SFC   
Sun   16-Aug    SHC              SHC
Wed 19-Aug    SFC              SFC
Sun   23-Aug    SHC              SHC
Wed 26-Aug                         SFC

Sat   29-Aug   SHC QF              SHC QF
Sun   30-Aug   SFC QF              SFC QF
Sat   05-Sep   SFC SF              SFC SF
Sun   06-Sep   SHC SF              SHC SF
      
Sun   13-Sep   SHC F               SHC F

Sat   19-Sep   Hurl League        Hurl League
Sun   20-Sep   SFC F               SFC F

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2020, 01:14:45 PM
On paper that looks harsh alright but what's the answer? That might be a harder problem to solve, because even in a normal year there is serious congestion. It's almost getting to the stage where dual players need to decide themselves if it's in their best welfare to strip out and play depending on their own circumstances.

There is no easy answer. Drag the calendar out a bit longer to give dual players more time to recover will make it impossible to fulfil club and inter county competitions. What if those dual players are county players as well. Where do you draw the line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2020, 01:19:55 PM
Where are we dragging it too? Like I said in my post , there's no club championship this season after club finals are completed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 20, 2020, 02:50:42 PM
the dual club players are going to get an awful battering this next month or so!

Friday 31st of July away to Sarsfields in the football then on the sunday at home to Davitts. 1 day rest. Wednesday 5th Aug away to Moneyglass then that Sunday home to Ballycastle in the hurling on the 9th.
Wed 12th home to Glenravel then away to Rossa on the Sunday.

6 games in 2 and a bit weeks is a hell of an ask for lads who might be playing both. truth be told the hurling will be more of a priority than the football for us.

But, with the GAA potentially to announce this weekend that contact training can start on the 29th of June, a month earlier, the games could be brought forward a bit - maybe.

Ultimately its the same for all the clubs in the county and it is a one off situation so we will have to work our way through it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on June 20, 2020, 03:07:20 PM
Would it not have worked with
Hurling Leagues followed by Hurling Championship .
Football Championship followed by football league .
Suits dual clubs and respective county teams campaigns.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on June 20, 2020, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 20, 2020, 02:50:42 PM
the dual club players are going to get an awful battering this next month or so!

Friday 31st of July away to Sarsfields in the football then on the sunday at home to Davitts. 1 day rest. Wednesday 5th Aug away to Moneyglass then that Sunday home to Ballycastle in the hurling on the 9th.
Wed 12th home to Glenravel then away to Rossa on the Sunday.

6 games in 2 and a bit weeks is a hell of an ask for lads who might be playing both. truth be told the hurling will be more of a priority than the football for us.

But, with the GAA potentially to announce this weekend that contact training can start on the 29th of June, a month earlier, the games could be brought forward a bit - maybe.

Ultimately its the same for all the clubs in the county and it is a one off situation so we will have to work our way through it.
Professional athletes who do this for a living over in the premier league are dropping like flies already. The schedule for the single code player is mad never mind the dual code player. Games will be interesting if anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 20, 2020, 04:12:30 PM
Would it not have made sense to use the full 11 week window to complete the games, give players a chance to build up match fitness before being thrown straight into Championship action.

Shamrocks v Ruairi Ogs in Championship will be each teams first game of the season!

Also I couldn't disagree more about the approach taken on Juvenile activity, they should be an absolutely priority and an absent year could have serious implications for both the children and the sustainability of many clubs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2020, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2020, 01:19:55 PM
Where are we dragging it too? Like I said in my post , there's no club championship this season after club finals are completed

I get the impression Croke Park want to say clubs have been the priority but then force most CB's to run off a championship of sorts in 6 weeks or so to allow them to get the Intercounty season underway October.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 22, 2020, 09:29:11 AM
The intercounty season should really be written off. I thought this was a chance for the GAA to make a statement here of what is the most important thing - the grass roots or the elite. Maybe that's what they have done :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 22, 2020, 10:21:47 AM
the county season is what makes the gaa money. if they lose it this year they will lose out on a fortune in gates, merchandise, advertising, tv revenue etc. the clubs dont bring them in any money so it isnt a priority to them.

hopefully the NI ex will allow us to follow the GAA's plan, if not then we wont be able to bring forward the match date a few weeks and ease the pressure on the dual clubs at the start of the year.

the camogie assc havent released anything yet to let clubs know whats going on atm which is even more frustrating for clubs as you cant plan whats going ahead in the next few weeks right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2020, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 22, 2020, 10:21:47 AM
the county season is what makes the gaa money. if they lose it this year they will lose out on a fortune in gates, merchandise, advertising, tv revenue etc. the clubs dont bring them in any money so it isnt a priority to them.

hopefully the NI ex will allow us to follow the GAA's plan, if not then we wont be able to bring forward the match date a few weeks and ease the pressure on the dual clubs at the start of the year.

the camogie assc havent released anything yet to let clubs know whats going on atm which is even more frustrating for clubs as you cant plan whats going ahead in the next few weeks right.

All information coming from Croke Park relate to the LGFA and the Camogie Association, so same processes in place for them.

Don't know how games are going to be structured for them but our senior camogs are being allocated training slots using the same guidelines as our senior hurlers which has now been brought forward to the 24th...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on June 22, 2020, 12:29:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 22, 2020, 10:27:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on June 22, 2020, 10:21:47 AM
the county season is what makes the gaa money. if they lose it this year they will lose out on a fortune in gates, merchandise, advertising, tv revenue etc. the clubs dont bring them in any money so it isnt a priority to them.

hopefully the NI ex will allow us to follow the GAA's plan, if not then we wont be able to bring forward the match date a few weeks and ease the pressure on the dual clubs at the start of the year.

the camogie assc havent released anything yet to let clubs know whats going on atm which is even more frustrating for clubs as you cant plan whats going ahead in the next few weeks right.

All information coming from Croke Park relate to the LGFA and the Camogie Association, so same processes in place for them.

Don't know how games are going to be structured for them but our senior camogs are being allocated training slots using the same guidelines as our senior hurlers which has now been brought forward to the 24th...

Sorry, i meant our own County set up. they haven't told us definite information of what exactly will be happening. we had to have all entries back in on Friday past but as per usual some clubs didn't have them in on time.

its been chatted about a league one way then championship which will be knock out. a group championship with league after would of been better but apparently the Camogie assoc wont rule out the ulster or all ireland club championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 20, 2020, 04:12:30 PM
Would it not have made sense to use the full 11 week window to complete the games, give players a chance to build up match fitness before being thrown straight into Championship action.

Shamrocks v Ruairi Ogs in Championship will be each teams first game of the season!

Also I couldn't disagree more about the approach taken on Juvenile activity, they should be an absolutely priority and an absent year could have serious implications for both the children and the sustainability of many clubs!

I think they have got a lot of things wrong in the plan thus far, but for me this wouldnt be one of them.

Adult or young adults you can control slightly better and they get the ideas and principals of why they are asked to do certain things. Anything below that they don't and if the schools are unable to have had them back for the last few months and clearly not keen to have them fully back in September so far, how could we ask volunteer coaches to do this? Madness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 23, 2020, 08:21:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 20, 2020, 04:12:30 PM
Would it not have made sense to use the full 11 week window to complete the games, give players a chance to build up match fitness before being thrown straight into Championship action.

Shamrocks v Ruairi Ogs in Championship will be each teams first game of the season!

Also I couldn't disagree more about the approach taken on Juvenile activity, they should be an absolutely priority and an absent year could have serious implications for both the children and the sustainability of many clubs!

I think they have got a lot of things wrong in the plan thus far, but for me this wouldnt be one of them.

Adult or young adults you can control slightly better and they get the ideas and principals of why they are asked to do certain things. Anything below that they don't and if the schools are unable to have had them back for the last few months and clearly not keen to have them fully back in September so far, how could we ask volunteer coaches to do this? Madness

A lot of lad s will be jumping from u16 to senior in Jan if new rules come in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 23, 2020, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 23, 2020, 08:21:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 23, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 20, 2020, 04:12:30 PM
Would it not have made sense to use the full 11 week window to complete the games, give players a chance to build up match fitness before being thrown straight into Championship action.

Shamrocks v Ruairi Ogs in Championship will be each teams first game of the season!

Also I couldn't disagree more about the approach taken on Juvenile activity, they should be an absolutely priority and an absent year could have serious implications for both the children and the sustainability of many clubs!

I think they have got a lot of things wrong in the plan thus far, but for me this wouldnt be one of them.

Adult or young adults you can control slightly better and they get the ideas and principals of why they are asked to do certain things. Anything below that they don't and if the schools are unable to have had them back for the last few months and clearly not keen to have them fully back in September so far, how could we ask volunteer coaches to do this? Madness

A lot of lad s will be jumping from u16 to senior in Jan if new rules come in

those rules are already in place in Down and the CB is putting fixtures in place for U17, U15 and U13 for the end of July onwards so they'll get something.

The younger ones. P7 down are a different matter and whilst may be allowed to train I don't think we'll see blitzes with several different teams in attendance this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 23, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Don't understand the argument 'you can control adults easier'

Contact is contact, it's either permitted or it's not!  I think it's entirely reasonable to assess That Children  mature enough to sit a Transfer Test are mature enough to be coached appropriately in small sided sessions under the supervision of a coach and additional Covid Supervisor!

The reality is our children have suffered the most in lockdown, it has had a serious impact on physical and mental health as well as their ability to integrate socially.  This is not my opinion but the view of the 160 GP's who have written to the education minister calling for urgent action.

Schools are now closed until at least September, and so a lockdown that began with the St Patrick's day bank holiday will extend to at least 5.5 months, possibly longer!

There is no safe option here, cancelling all activities will ensure no community transmission of Covid-19 through our grounds, but it will exacerbate the growing social isolation issues with our youth.  The children will suffer.

The club will suffer also, children with a proclivity for sport will find alternate options, numbers cycling, golfing & running will increase.  Those are the lucky children other will simply drift away from organised sport.

The risks are on both sides, the official guidance from Croke Park states Child to Child or child to adult transmission remains incredibly low, reduced further by being outside and with each club taking the adequate precautions.

If they don't play a game or a blitz, that's fine, but the Association should be looking at solutions to make play available and not just throw the baby out with the bathwater!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 23, 2020, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 23, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Don't understand the argument 'you can control adults easier'

Contact is contact, it's either permitted or it's not!  I think it's entirely reasonable to assess That Children  mature enough to sit a Transfer Test are mature enough to be coached appropriately in small sided sessions under the supervision of a coach and additional Covid Supervisor!

The reality is our children have suffered the most in lockdown, it has had a serious impact on physical and mental health as well as their ability to integrate socially.  This is not my opinion but the view of the 160 GP's who have written to the education minister calling for urgent action.

Schools are now closed until at least September, and so a lockdown that began with the St Patrick's day bank holiday will extend to at least 5.5 months, possibly longer!

There is no safe option here, cancelling all activities will ensure no community transmission of Covid-19 through our grounds, but it will exacerbate the growing social isolation issues with our youth.  The children will suffer.

The club will suffer also, children with a proclivity for sport will find alternate options, numbers cycling, golfing & running will increase.  Those are the lucky children other will simply drift away from organised sport.

The risks are on both sides, the official guidance from Croke Park states Child to Child or child to adult transmission remains incredibly low, reduced further by being outside and with each club taking the adequate precautions.

If they don't play a game or a blitz, that's fine, but the Association should be looking at solutions to make play available and not just throw the baby out with the bathwater!

So when the schools and teachers decide that it is safe to go back and have all the scientific backing to do so, then i think the Volunteer coahces can also start back. I don't think you can ask someone to take on such a role while the schools have deemed it not safe.

Clubs will be able to work ways for these kids once these issues have been worked out, but I dont think it is a priority at the moment.

I hope I am wrong and that we see a serious down turn in this virus but it doesnt look that is coming any time soon in the global sense.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 23, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
Surely then by that logic - no teams should be going back!

I would actually accept that argument over the prioritisation of adult competition give adult to adult transmission has a far higher occurrence rate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2020, 08:10:29 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 23, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
Surely then by that logic - no teams should be going back!

I would actually accept that argument over the prioritisation of adult competition give adult to adult transmission has a far higher occurrence rate

Point being adults can make that call for themselves and decide apon their own circumstances. Kids start back and the pressure comes on parents to let their child go because his wee best friend goes. No one knows the circumstances of each situation, so the not seeing family and grand parents in partuicular for 3/4 months would be back to square one for the sake of getting them out hurling.

Clubs need to be ready to go when they get that call that it is safe to do so and the barometer for safety for these age groups is the fact that they are back to school with some regularity.

Yes it is difficult and we would prefer not to be here and we know there are issues around not having them at the club. But there are ways and means of engaging with them to keep them interested and then when the go ahead comes, clubs should be in a place to offer something that will attract the kids back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 24, 2020, 03:22:51 PM
So you think Children will be pressurised into returning but seniors competing for the volunteer cup won't!

Should parents not have the same right of choice as the seniors?

Again the science shows adults to adult transmission at a much higher rate than any form of transmission involving Children! If we return to lockdown it is much more likely to be the result of international travel and community transmission within the adult population

Yet the solution is to deny children the opportunity for outside exercise and play!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 24, 2020, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: maxpower on June 24, 2020, 03:22:51 PM
So you think Children will be pressurised into returning but seniors competing for the volunteer cup won't!

Should parents not have the same right of choice as the seniors?

Again the science shows adults to adult transmission at a much higher rate than any form of transmission involving Children! If we return to lockdown it is much more likely to be the result of international travel and community transmission within the adult population

Yet the solution is to deny children the opportunity for outside exercise and play!

Get them out, exercise them, play games with them within your family. Hurling / Football is not the be all and end all.

Seniors are wise enough to make their own call, will any of the married seniors (not that there are too many these days) with pregnant wives young children at home be keen to go back?

It is a simple arguement, professionals as in scientists here have advised that schools are not able to fully function. Therefore our professional teachers aren't teaching them, but yet and all you think its ok to ask volunteers to take them out and let them play?

I can see your argument on mental health and physical fitness but this is outweighed here by this virus. When it is safe for the kids to be back at school then by all means lets get our games up and running but that should be the marker for clubs working with kids this age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cromagh on June 24, 2020, 06:53:55 PM
This is a difficult time for society as a whole and obviously trying to get back to normality in a difficult road for us all.

However you can't compare underage sport and schools. Two completely different contexts. Main one being schools operate inside a building and sport outside. If you watch the GAA module there is 19 times more chance passing virus indoors as outdoors.

Schools will be back to near full capacity by end of September. Scotland are def going fully back in August.

It's hugely important to get young people back out andmixing with friends and peers outside for a whole variety of reasons. Our volunteer coaches are not being put at risk by this. If home circumstances mean players or coaches can't take part then I'd assume they won't.
But we need to get young people back into normality to help with their social development as well as their mental and physical development
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on June 24, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
School argument doesn't stack up, that's an indoor activity over 30 hours a week with c30 children in a confined space. 

GAA is groups of 10 for 1 hour per week outdoor!

Family exercise is grand but doesn't not for developing social skills, and as I have said, many will walk away and so the clubs will suffer.

I'm disappointed the attitude of the GAA has largely been - it will be difficult so let's not bother.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 25, 2020, 08:22:11 AM
Quote from: maxpower on June 24, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
School argument doesn't stack up, that's an indoor activity over 30 hours a week with c30 children in a confined space. 

GAA is groups of 10 for 1 hour per week outdoor!

Family exercise is grand but doesn't not for developing social skills, and as I have said, many will walk away and so the clubs will suffer.

I'm disappointed the attitude of the GAA has largely been - it will be difficult so let's not bother.

Don't want to hammer the point because we clearly aren't going to agree on it.

I guess it comes down to risk and reward, for me the risk is too great at the moment. what is a couple of months now at this stage to we see where things go and if it progresses the way it is and stays low then we have all autumn to play our games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on June 29, 2020, 10:33:45 AM
So Cul camps aren't going ahead in Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 30, 2020, 11:26:59 AM
When will the league fixtures be announced. I know the dates are out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2020, 11:49:10 AM
Looking forward to seeing these club selections on the saffron gael for the hurling. There'll be some debate among some of those top clubs.

Not sure on fixtures sorry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on June 30, 2020, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2020, 11:49:10 AM
Looking forward to seeing these club selections on the saffron gael for the hurling. There'll be some debate among some of those top clubs.

Not sure on fixtures sorry.

i have to say I've been looking forward to this as well, sounds like there's a few ready for publishing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 30, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 30, 2020, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2020, 11:49:10 AM
Looking forward to seeing these club selections on the saffron gael for the hurling. There'll be some debate among some of those top clubs.

Not sure on fixtures sorry.

i have to say I've been looking forward to this as well, sounds like there's a few ready for publishing

If I don't make mine there'll be trouble!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
Cushendall team picked. It's an interesting one but from what I've seen over the years maybe not too far of the mark.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2020, 11:41:50 AM
what would be your own clubs best 15 hurlers folks in your own personal opinion.

For me it would be from the start of 1989/90 era. I was at the games before it but was more interested in finding a hole in the hedge where there might of been a stream to stand in! lol

So this is the best 15 Dunloy players ive seen play.

1.   Shane Elliott
2.   Sean McIlhatton
3.   Seamus McMullan
4.   Malachy Molloy
5.   Sean Mullan
6.   Gary O'Kane
7.   Frankie McMullan
8.   Nigel Elliott
9.   Colum McGuckian
10.   Tony McGrath
11.   Liam Richmond
12.   Paddy Richmond
13.   Alistair Elliott
14.   Gregory O'Kane
15.   Paul Shiels

Had to leave out the younger lads for the time being but id love to put in Coby, Keelan or Seaan Elliott but their time will come. Also couldn't get in Conor Cunning, Jarlath Elliott and Paudie & Damian McMullan into the team but if they were my subs im happy! lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2020, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
Cushendall team picked. It's an interesting one but from what I've seen over the years maybe not too far of the mark.

Cant argue with that team at all either. its as good a team as you could pick from Cushendall.

So many great men not with us in Budda, James and Danny. Fantastic hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
It's mad seeing the 3 of those boys and are they not all brothers too?

I'd have had Aidan Delargy there or thereabouts too.

Hard to argue much with that team DR though you've maybe squeezed a few boys into that full back line lol.Very 90s dominated too lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2020, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
Cushendall team picked. It's an interesting one but from what I've seen over the years maybe not too far of the mark.

I'd have had Aidan Delargy in that team somewhere to, so difficult when you have had so many great hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
It's mad seeing the 3 of those boys and are they not all brothers too?

I'd have had Aidan Delargy there or thereabouts too.

Hard to argue much with that team DR though you've maybe squeezed a few boys into that full back line lol.Very 90s dominated too lol.

;D to be fair Mushy played full back for the 95 and 96 all ireland finals and those seasons but he would of played anywhere to be honest. Malachy and Frankie could swop positions handy enough but yeah all in its very dominated by the 90's squad.

Most of them all played up to the 2000's with Alistair and Gregory picking up their 11th county medal in 2009 so the guts of that team played for most of the games i went to.

Yeah from memory all 3 were brothers.

Danny collapsed and died at a game in Dunloy. I remember at that game when it happened.

Budda was one of the best characters i ever met in GAA circles. he used to land into the pub and dunloy and we would sit and listen to him chat about hurling and laugh at his stories he would go over. He was turned up after Dunloy would win a championship to enjoy the party and the craic a fair few times.

James was a rolls Royce of a defender. so cool and calm on the ball and made it look so easy all the time. Of that 89 team him and Beaver were the players i loved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 01, 2020, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 01, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
It's mad seeing the 3 of those boys and are they not all brothers too?

I'd have had Aidan Delargy there or thereabouts too.

Hard to argue much with that team DR though you've maybe squeezed a few boys into that full back line lol.Very 90s dominated too lol.

;D to be fair Mushy played full back for the 95 and 96 all ireland finals and those seasons but he would of played anywhere to be honest. Malachy and Frankie could swop positions handy enough but yeah all in its very dominated by the 90's squad.

Most of them all played up to the 2000's with Alistair and Gregory picking up their 11th county medal in 2009 so the guts of that team played for most of the games i went to.

Yeah from memory all 3 were brothers.

Danny collapsed and died at a game in Dunloy. I remember at that game when it happened.

Budda was one of the best characters i ever met in GAA circles. he used to land into the pub and dunloy and we would sit and listen to him chat about hurling and laugh at his stories he would go over. He was turned up after Dunloy would win a championship to enjoy the party and the craic a fair few times.

James was a rolls Royce of a defender. so cool and calm on the ball and made it look so easy all the time. Of that 89 team him and Beaver were the players i loved

Danny, Buddha, James, Sean, Brendan & Allister could all of been on a Cushendall panel to a win SHC at a stage I think. Could that be a record in Antrim I wonder?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:09:14 PM
Mcmullans may challenge that. Seamus, Dominic, frankie, paudie and Damien all brothers? Maybe not all on a winning panel at once. I am sure Donnellys in 80s too. Looking back at those teams on saffron Gael there were more brothers than I thought. Either 4 or 5 though - I don't think more though... Can't think of big loughgiel or Ross's families. Not that many organs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2020, 08:54:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:09:14 PM
Mcmullans may challenge that. Seamus, Dominic, frankie, paudie and Damien all brothers? Maybe not all on a winning panel at once. I am sure Donnellys in 80s too. Looking back at those teams on saffron Gael there were more brothers than I thought. Either 4 or 5 though - I don't think more though... Can't think of big loughgiel or Ross's families. Not that many organs?

For likes if Rossa you'd the Murray's and two Murphy's , two or three Rogans on various championship winning teams that I can think of quickly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 01, 2020, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:09:14 PM
Mcmullans may challenge that. Seamus, Dominic, frankie, paudie and Damien all brothers? Maybe not all on a winning panel at once. I am sure Donnellys in 80s too. Looking back at those teams on saffron Gael there were more brothers than I thought. Either 4 or 5 though - I don't think more though... Can't think of big loughgiel or Ross's families. Not that many organs?

Yeah they were all brothers. Dominic, Seamus and Frankie all won a championship at one stage. Then later Seamus, Frankie, Paudie and Damian all played at the same time.

their sisters Sally, Sinead, Helen and Majella all won the Antrim camogie championship in 1994. Pretty amazing sporting family.

Would there not of been a lot of McGarrys on the Loughgiel panels over the years?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
How many donnellys were there? Brian, Eddie, dessie, Eddie and another one who wasn't county- Seamus maybe? Were  there any more?

Not sure on mcgarrys. Definitely a few playing but can't remember that many though wouldn't recall the 80s so much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 02, 2020, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 01, 2020, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:09:14 PM
Mcmullans may challenge that. Seamus, Dominic, frankie, paudie and Damien all brothers? Maybe not all on a winning panel at once. I am sure Donnellys in 80s too. Looking back at those teams on saffron Gael there were more brothers than I thought. Either 4 or 5 though - I don't think more though... Can't think of big loughgiel or Ross's families. Not that many organs?

Yeah they were all brothers. Dominic, Seamus and Frankie all won a championship at one stage. Then later Seamus, Frankie, Paudie and Damian all played at the same time.

their sisters Sally, Sinead, Helen and Majella all won the Antrim camogie championship in 1994. Pretty amazing sporting family.

Would there not of been a lot of McGarrys on the Loughgiel panels over the years?

Wee Terry was handy hurler too but he in his own words was "the runt of the litter" because he was small. I don't mind Nicky ever hurling back in the day, think he had problems with his eye sight. Probably the most famous GAA family in Antrim.

Lots of good stories to. Like the day Seamus and Dominic never showed up to school and the head master new where to find them. Hurling away down in the local pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2020, 09:52:26 AM
I forgot there was a Terry.

Ballycastle's team is an interesting one. They had some great hurlers over the years too (and still produce some very capable ones though they seem to be fewer these days). I think looking at it there may have been 6 donnelly brothers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 02, 2020, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on July 02, 2020, 12:54:12 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 01, 2020, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2020, 08:09:14 PM
Mcmullans may challenge that. Seamus, Dominic, frankie, paudie and Damien all brothers? Maybe not all on a winning panel at once. I am sure Donnellys in 80s too. Looking back at those teams on saffron Gael there were more brothers than I thought. Either 4 or 5 though - I don't think more though... Can't think of big loughgiel or Ross's families. Not that many organs?

Yeah they were all brothers. Dominic, Seamus and Frankie all won a championship at one stage. Then later Seamus, Frankie, Paudie and Damian all played at the same time.

their sisters Sally, Sinead, Helen and Majella all won the Antrim camogie championship in 1994. Pretty amazing sporting family.

Would there not of been a lot of McGarrys on the Loughgiel panels over the years?

Wee Terry was handy hurler too but he in his own words was "the runt of the litter" because he was small. I don't mind Nicky ever hurling back in the day, think he had problems with his eye sight. Probably the most famous GAA family in Antrim.

Lots of good stories to. Like the day Seamus and Dominic never showed up to school and the head master new where to find them. Hurling away down in the local pitch.

Terry and Nicky were both good hurlers. nicky played in all the good underage teams through the 80's and started all the time right up to U21 level but im not sure why he didnt play on anymore.

Mushy hated training with a passion when it involved running of any kind. i mind him telling us while yarns of excuses he would make up to avoid running  ;D i remember him making us take a nip of wiskey before going onto the pitch before a county final when he took our U21 team lol a brilliant character and hurler and someone ive a lot of respect for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 05:25:41 PM
Anyone get the IN today and fancy putting up Sean McGuinness' 15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on July 02, 2020, 06:16:23 PM
Aidan Delargy ahead of Shane McNaughton for me in Cushendall team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2020, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 05:25:41 PM
Anyone get the IN today and fancy putting up Sean McGuinness' 15.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2020/07/02/news/sean-mcguinness-selects-the-top-15-hurlers-he-managed-1992042/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2020/07/02/news/sean-mcguinness-selects-the-top-15-hurlers-he-managed-1992042/)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 02, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 02, 2020, 06:16:23 PM
Aidan Delargy ahead of Shane McNaughton for me in Cushendall team

Big shout there..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 02, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 02, 2020, 06:16:23 PM
Aidan Delargy ahead of Shane McNaughton for me in Cushendall team

Big shout there..

Totally different players and style, for me AD was a very smart hurler and Shane was explosive and exciting to watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 03, 2020, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 02, 2020, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 02, 2020, 05:25:41 PM
Anyone get the IN today and fancy putting up Sean McGuinness' 15.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2020/07/02/news/sean-mcguinness-selects-the-top-15-hurlers-he-managed-1992042/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2020/07/02/news/sean-mcguinness-selects-the-top-15-hurlers-he-managed-1992042/)

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 01:16:50 PM
Yeah I would have thought the same. Always loved watching Jim Connolly play. Some other great players in there too with some before my time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
The Saffron Gael one is actually called 15 Favourite rather than Bsst.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
The Saffron Gael one is actually called 15 Favourite rather than Bsst.

Right, ah well that's good way of doing it tbf
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
The Saffron Gael one is actually called 15 Favourite rather than Bsst.

In fairness the players that may be out of position of what have been their normal spots the picker has explained it.

I think having a selector who's played or watched a few generations of teams can give a nice spread of players from over the years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
The Saffron Gael one is actually called 15 Favourite rather than Bsst.

In fairness the players that may be out of position of what have been their normal spots the picker has explained it.

I think having a selector who's played or watched a few generations of teams can give a nice spread of players from over the years

Agreed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 04, 2020, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 03, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 03, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 03, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 03, 2020, 12:45:53 PM
Good point.

Rossa's team in the SG today. Some handy hurlers over the years.

Not going to complain too much about that team, I'd say there was at least 12 that were certs, and then the rest is down to your own perception.

Are these teams picked to positions or best 15.. we tried to pick 15 in our wee club but found that part hard
The Saffron Gael one is actually called 15 Favourite rather than Bsst.

In fairness the players that may be out of position of what have been their normal spots the picker has explained it.

I think having a selector who's played or watched a few generations of teams can give a nice spread of players from over the years

Yeah you need someone whos seen the seniors hurl throughout the 80's etc right up to the present day as opposed to someone whos only seen the newer generation at your club. i only got the tail end of the 80's but there was some fantastic hurlers who played throughout that time with next to no success nor close to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 04, 2020, 09:32:44 AM
Nice wee story there too in the saffron gael about the 4 young minor hurlers from cushendall who rescued a father and child who got into difficulties swimming
Well played lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on July 05, 2020, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 02, 2020, 09:52:26 AM
I forgot there was a Terry.

Ballycastle's team is an interesting one. They had some great hurlers over the years too (and still produce some very capable ones though they seem to be fewer these days). I think looking at it there may have been 6 donnelly brothers.

I don't think they are all brothers- seamus, Eddie , Brian and Dessie may be brothers I think but Eoin Ciaran and Terence are cousins.  Ronan also related
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 05, 2020, 12:23:47 PM
Ah. Thanks for that. Ronan was a good one too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 12, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Is there no spectators allowed at games starting next week up here in the 6 counties?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 14, 2020, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 12, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Is there no spectators allowed at games starting next week up here in the 6 counties?

no supporters, teams and officials only at the minute.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 14, 2020, 11:21:39 AM
Hopefully be a bit of live streaming done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 18, 2020, 09:44:28 PM
North Antrim Gaa with the live stream tonight, good start back for the Ruairis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 18, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 14, 2020, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 12, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Is there no spectators allowed at games starting next week up here in the 6 counties?

no supporters, teams and officials only at the minute.

Loving some of the photos of spectators not within the grounds though. Great one of a couple of families watching from their back garden in ahoghill and some older fella in his camp chair at a game though not sure where that is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 18, 2020, 10:27:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 18, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 14, 2020, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on July 12, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Is there no spectators allowed at games starting next week up here in the 6 counties?

no supporters, teams and officials only at the minute.

Loving some of the photos of spectators not within the grounds though. Great one of a couple of families watching from their back garden in ahoghill and some older fella in his camp chair at a game though not sure where that is.

Where can you see this stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2020, 09:59:36 AM
Saffron Gael page on Facebook. Reports on loads of games.

The ahoghill one will be on the website report. The old guy on his camping chair was I think a reply to their post with the individual photo from ahoghill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 19, 2020, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 19, 2020, 09:59:36 AM
Saffron Gael page on Facebook. Reports on loads of games.

The ahoghill one will be on the website report. The old guy on his camping chair was I think a reply to their post with the individual photo from ahoghill.

Thanks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 19, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
The feis cup photos are funny. There's minimum a few dozen ones watching it lol. I think glenariff just has a fence quite close to the pitch so no one is breaching anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 21, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
wanted to try and stream some of our games but was told i wasnt allowed to. the county dont want us to do that ourselves but i see they are now saying that they will be streaming the antrim senior championship games if ive read loughgiels post right.

#BreakingNews

THE PRODUCTION COMPANY @nemetontv who are behind TG4′s GAA BEO will be partnering @AontroimGAA and streaming live championship @NorthSwitchgear & @Bathshack games ..

Watch our games from the comfort of your home

Stay tuned for further details
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 21, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
wanted to try and stream some of our games but was told i wasnt allowed to. the county dont want us to do that ourselves but i see they are now saying that they will be streaming the antrim senior championship games if ive read loughgiels post right.

#BreakingNews

THE PRODUCTION COMPANY @nemetontv who are behind TG4′s GAA BEO will be partnering @AontroimGAA and streaming live championship @NorthSwitchgear & @Bathshack games ..

Watch our games from the comfort of your home

Stay tuned for further details

Was talking to Sean at the first match since lockdown and he was telling about the streaming, will be great for everyone that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 21, 2020, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 21, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
wanted to try and stream some of our games but was told i wasnt allowed to. the county dont want us to do that ourselves but i see they are now saying that they will be streaming the antrim senior championship games if ive read loughgiels post right.

#BreakingNews

THE PRODUCTION COMPANY @nemetontv who are behind TG4′s GAA BEO will be partnering @AontroimGAA and streaming live championship @NorthSwitchgear & @Bathshack games ..

Watch our games from the comfort of your home

Stay tuned for further details

Was talking to Sean at the first match since lockdown and he was telling about the streaming, will be great for everyone that!

Waterford using Nemetontv as well, €5 per game. I presume it'll be something similar in Antrim, no?
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on July 22, 2020, 04:48:04 PM
im expecting something along those lines there JC. its a great idea to do it as it means people will still get to see the games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on July 22, 2020, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 21, 2020, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 21, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
wanted to try and stream some of our games but was told i wasnt allowed to. the county dont want us to do that ourselves but i see they are now saying that they will be streaming the antrim senior championship games if ive read loughgiels post right.

#BreakingNews

THE PRODUCTION COMPANY @nemetontv who are behind TG4′s GAA BEO will be partnering @AontroimGAA and streaming live championship @NorthSwitchgear & @Bathshack games ..

Watch our games from the comfort of your home

Stay tuned for further details

Was talking to Sean at the first match since lockdown and he was telling about the streaming, will be great for everyone that!

Waterford using Nemetontv as well, €5 per game. I presume it'll be something similar in Antrim, no?

I presume there's full commentary etc.also?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 22, 2020, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 22, 2020, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 21, 2020, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on July 21, 2020, 09:06:35 AM
wanted to try and stream some of our games but was told i wasnt allowed to. the county dont want us to do that ourselves but i see they are now saying that they will be streaming the antrim senior championship games if ive read loughgiels post right.

#BreakingNews

THE PRODUCTION COMPANY @nemetontv who are behind TG4′s GAA BEO will be partnering @AontroimGAA and streaming live championship @NorthSwitchgear & @Bathshack games ..

Watch our games from the comfort of your home

Stay tuned for further details

Was talking to Sean at the first match since lockdown and he was telling about the streaming, will be great for everyone that!

Waterford using Nemetontv as well, €5 per game. I presume it'll be something similar in Antrim, no?

I presume there's full commentary etc.also?

Hit the red button for Commentary and fan noise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:36 PM
Barry McFall hurling for the Gorts now?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on July 23, 2020, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 23, 2020, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:36 PM
Barry McFall hurling for the Gorts now?
Although I'd heard that earlier in the year, it's strange to see that alright.

Also I see a Don Whelan hurling for Davitts, is that the same lad who hurled for Cushendun I wonder?

McFall could do some damage at 14 for Gort Na Mona.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on July 24, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
It is the same Don. Been with Davitts few years now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 03, 2020, 06:47:42 AM
It's now Championship week at last. How do we see it going? Can Dunloy retain Big Ears, have they Worked on a surprise tactic or something which is why they pulled out of the Cushendall league game. Can Cushendall gain revenge for last years final defeat or can Loughgiel get back to the top of the tree. The Johnnies can they finally get over the line or will they struggle with having a lot of players playing football champ as well. How will St Endas fare up playing senior for the first time?. Can anyone else spring a surprise, Rossa, Ballycastle or St Galls. Let's hear your predictions or how your club has been getting on in challenge games. Me I just can't wait till Sunday throws around
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on August 03, 2020, 11:11:03 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on July 23, 2020, 07:10:36 PM
Barry McFall hurling for the Gorts now?

What happened here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 03, 2020, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 03, 2020, 06:47:42 AM
It's now Championship week at last. How do we see it going? Can Dunloy retain Big Ears, have they Worked on a surprise tactic or something which is why they pulled out of the Cushendall league game. Can Cushendall gain revenge for last years final defeat or can Loughgiel get back to the top of the tree. The Johnnies can they finally get over the line or will they struggle with having a lot of players playing football champ as well. How will St Endas fare up playing senior for the first time?. Can anyone else spring a surprise, Rossa, Ballycastle or St Galls. Let's hear your predictions or how your club has been getting on in challenge games. Me I just can't wait till Sunday throws around

It used to be all the talk would be about the championship and the build up to it but with it not going any farther than Antrim and limited fans allowed into games its sort of left it all a bit flat for supporters.

Ill be at the games as ive order tickets for the group games but it seems a bit watered down this year imo. If we win it great but if we dont i wont lose any sleep worrying. Our lads are pushing hard on both fronts in the football and hurling so they arent getting the same rest the non dual club players are so its a balancing act to avoid injuries with so many games in such a sort space of time.

I think we should be too strong for Ballycastle and get through the match with a bit to spare.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 01:34:37 PM
When the players cross the line (either code) they'll be busting their eye strings to win the match, I doubt very much Gregory will expect anything else...

The dual thing will certainly make a difference this year and with group games being so close together its made things harder again..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 03, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
i def think with so many games in a short space it will benefit the hurling only clubs likewise for the football only clubs in the other code.

It will be full paced and hard hitting but i know plenty of people who wont even be bothering ordering the 3 match tickets as they have to pay for their kids to get into the game now. It is what it is and we will just have to make the best of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 03, 2020, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
i def think with so many games in a short space it will benefit the hurling only clubs likewise for the football only clubs in the other code.

It will be full paced and hard hitting but i know plenty of people who wont even be bothering ordering the 3 match tickets as they have to pay for their kids to get into the game now. It is what it is and we will just have to make the best of it.

How many have been allocated to each club?

how are the clubs going about the distribution? open draw? members only? that is bound to start some rows.

Might actually work in the dual clubs favour get players back to championship pace in a shorter time frame. Although the injuries and tiredness will play a part in that too. Interesting one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 03, 2020, 04:52:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 03, 2020, 03:18:35 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
i def think with so many games in a short space it will benefit the hurling only clubs likewise for the football only clubs in the other code.

It will be full paced and hard hitting but i know plenty of people who wont even be bothering ordering the 3 match tickets as they have to pay for their kids to get into the game now. It is what it is and we will just have to make the best of it.

How many have been allocated to each club?

how are the clubs going about the distribution? open draw? members only? that is bound to start some rows.

Might actually work in the dual clubs favour get players back to championship pace in a shorter time frame. Although the injuries and tiredness will play a part in that too. Interesting one.

We have got 200 for the 3 group games so id assume thats the same for the other clubs as well. £15 for the 3 games which isnt bad value. truth is you wont get 200 from Dunloy at the away games in Belfast for the Rossa and St Johns games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Has it not opened up to 400 supporters? Got a text earlier about it, could be wrong though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 03, 2020, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Has it not opened up to 400 supporters? Got a text earlier about it, could be wrong though

400 for each club?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 03, 2020, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 03, 2020, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Has it not opened up to 400 supporters? Got a text earlier about it, could be wrong though

400 for each club?

200 per club - 400 supporters overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2020, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 03, 2020, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Has it not opened up to 400 supporters? Got a text earlier about it, could be wrong though

400 for each club?

200 per club - 400 supporters overall.

So it's still 400? Was it originally 200?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on August 04, 2020, 01:54:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 03, 2020, 10:26:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on August 03, 2020, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Has it not opened up to 400 supporters? Got a text earlier about it, could be wrong though

400 for each club?

200 per club - 400 supporters overall.

So it's still 400? Was it originally 200?

The 400 includes players and management , so roughly 160 spectators per club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 04, 2020, 09:30:33 AM
it seems to have changed tho as we have got 200 tickets for the hurling whereas for the football we have only got 75.

i dont know when the rules changed to allow that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2020, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 04, 2020, 09:30:33 AM
it seems to have changed tho as we have got 200 tickets for the hurling whereas for the football we have only got 75.

i dont know when the rules changed to allow that

Like I'd said earlier I got a text yesterday saying it's now up to 400 allowed at the games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2020, 09:49:05 AM
Were they not reassessing based on the size of the grounds? I was watching TG4 last night and it's a bit ridiculous. There were wee tiny club grounds in kerry with people on top of each other and then games in nowlan park where you'd the most sparsely populated crowd you could find.You could fit a few thousand into some grounds with no distancing issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 04, 2020, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2020, 09:49:05 AM
Were they not reassessing based on the size of the grounds? I was watching TG4 last night and it's a bit ridiculous. There were wee tiny club grounds in kerry with people on top of each other and then games in nowlan park where you'd the most sparsely populated crowd you could find.You could fit a few thousand into some grounds with no distancing issues.

I think they've made the call that grounds can readily contain 400 people (that's including both panels and officials) based on the assumption that most pitches would have a minimum of 400 metres plus of perimeter fencing.

We've been offered 150 tickets for each championship game, so only 300 supporters per game with players, officials, stewards etc etc making up the other 100.

anything we don't use goes to general release via an app.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 06, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
Championship predictions let's hear yours.

Senior
Rossa vs St Johns - St Johns by 5
Dunloy vs Ballycastle - Dunloy by 9
Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Loughgiel by 2
St Endas vs St Galls - St Endas by 4

Intermediate
Creggan vs Carey - Carey by 1
Cloughmills vs Armoy - Cloughmills by 3
Ahoghill vs Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 6

Junior
Davitts vs Larne - Larne by 2
Glenarm vs St Paul's - St Paul's by 3
St Teresa's vs Glenravel - Glenravel by 3
Cushendun vs Loch Mor Gaels - Cushendun by 10
Rasharkin vs Ballymena - Rasharkin by 7


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 06, 2020, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 06, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
Championship predictions let's hear yours.

Senior
Rossa vs St Johns - St Johns by 5
Dunloy vs Ballycastle - Dunloy by 9
Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Loughgiel by 2
St Endas vs St Galls - St Endas by 4

Intermediate
Creggan vs Carey - Carey by 1
Cloughmills vs Armoy - Cloughmills by 3
Ahoghill vs Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 6

Junior
Davitts vs Larne - Larne by 2
Glenarm vs St Paul's - St Paul's by 3
St Teresa's vs Glenravel - Glenravel by 3
Cushendun vs Loch Mor Gaels - Cushendun by 10
Rasharkin vs Ballymena - Rasharkin by 7

Who do you see winning each competition outright?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 07, 2020, 01:22:48 AM
Senior
Rossa vs St Johns - St Johns by 3
Dunloy vs Ballycastle - Dunloy by 12
Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Loughgiel by 3
St Endas vs St Galls - St Endas by 3

Intermediate
Creggan vs Carey - creggan by 3
Cloughmills vs Armoy - draw
Ahoghill vs Glenariffe - draw

Junior
Davitts vs Larne - draw
Glenarm vs St Paul's - St Paul's by 6
St Teresa's vs Glenravel - Glenravel by 8
Cushendun vs Loch Mor Gaels - Cushendun by 25
Rasharkin vs Ballymena - Rasharkin by 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 07, 2020, 01:24:43 AM


Who do you see winning each competition outright?

Dunloy
Creggan
Cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 07, 2020, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 07, 2020, 01:24:43 AM


Who do you see winning each competition outright?

Dunloy
Creggan
Cushendun

id agree with that, I think intermediate will be most competitive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2020, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 07, 2020, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: breakingball on August 07, 2020, 01:24:43 AM


Who do you see winning each competition outright?

Dunloy
Creggan
Cushendun

id agree with that, I think intermediate will be most competitive

Has sarsfields got a bye?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 08, 2020, 08:14:58 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 06, 2020, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 06, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
Championship predictions let's hear yours.

Senior
Rossa vs St Johns - St Johns by 5 St Johns by 3
Dunloy vs Ballycastle - Dunloy by 9 Dunloy by 15
Loughgiel vs Cushendall - Loughgiel by 2 Dall by 5
St Endas vs St Galls - St Endas by 4  Galls by 2

Intermediate
Creggan vs Carey - Carey by 1 Creggan by 5
Cloughmills vs Armoy - Cloughmills by 3
Ahoghill vs Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 6

Junior
Davitts vs Larne - Larne by 2
Glenarm vs St Paul's - St Paul's by 3
St Teresa's vs Glenravel - Glenravel by 3
Cushendun vs Loch Mor Gaels - Cushendun by 10
Rasharkin vs Ballymena - Rasharkin by 7

Who do you see winning each competition outright?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 08, 2020, 08:19:32 PM
Messed up my post  :'(
St Johns by 3
Dunloy by 15
Dall by 5
St Galls by 2

Creggan by 5
Armoy by 1 8)
Glenariffe by 2

Davitts by 3
St Pauls by 6
St theresas by 3
Dun by 15
Rasharkin by 10


Overall winners
C'Dall
Sarsfields
C'Dun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 09, 2020, 04:13:46 PM
we were poor. were lucky to get a draw at the end up. Ballycastle must of got 0-12 off frees in that game, Clarky is fantastic at the dead ball.

We just didnt play at all for any period of the game and never looked like being really threatening.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 10, 2020, 01:12:22 AM
Loughgiel senior champions
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 07:57:32 AM
McManus missing must surely have been a big factor in that game. Looked like some good games yesterday. I had a feeling Rossa would give St. John's their fill of it too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on August 10, 2020, 08:38:38 AM
Was there any word on how serious McManus' ankle is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 10, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 09, 2020, 04:13:46 PM
we were poor. were lucky to get a draw at the end up. Ballycastle must of got 0-12 off frees in that game, Clarky is fantastic at the dead ball.

We just didnt play at all for any period of the game and never looked like being really threatening.

Not one of our best displays, ballycastle first to every ball and a lot of players need to develop a bit of hunger. Bungo tried to lift us but very lethargic performance which doesn't lend itself to breaking down a team set up for sweeping and keeping the score low.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
A cushendun player scored 3-19 yesterday. 3-19 ???

Conleth McNeil - I know the name but don't know much about him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
A cushendun player scored 3-19 yesterday. 3-19 ???

Conleth McNeil - I know the name but don't know much about him.

On the frees probably but still, that's impressive regardless of what level he's playing at.

Is he about the county set up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Not that I know of. Mchugh I think is the only one from cushendun. 3-19 is some scoring. I would say he lost count of how many he scored!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 10, 2020, 09:11:44 PM
A man of talent, endless talent but just can't be arsed!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2020, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 10, 2020, 06:29:16 PM
A cushendun player scored 3-19 yesterday. 3-19 ???

Conleth McNeil - I know the name but don't know much about him.
Son of Conor? Handy enough fella back in the Emmet's heyday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
HIGHLY unlikely anyone here has a BT sub  ;D but if you do post up this article please.

https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/sport/oisins-tales-with-mark-sidebottom-gaas-love-of-the-parish-is-losing-out-to-love-of-the-purse-39434077.html?__twitter_impression=true (https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/sport/oisins-tales-with-mark-sidebottom-gaas-love-of-the-parish-is-losing-out-to-love-of-the-purse-39434077.html?__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2020, 09:29:30 AM
Anyone who pays towards that shit rag of a newspaper needs their head looked at.

I like Mark Sidebottom, always nice to speak to and has a love of the game, especially the local game here in Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 11, 2020, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 10, 2020, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 09, 2020, 04:13:46 PM
we were poor. were lucky to get a draw at the end up. Ballycastle must of got 0-12 off frees in that game, Clarky is fantastic at the dead ball.

We just didnt play at all for any period of the game and never looked like being really threatening.

Not one of our best displays, ballycastle first to every ball and a lot of players need to develop a bit of hunger. Bungo tried to lift us but very lethargic performance which doesn't lend itself to breaking down a team set up for sweeping and keeping the score low.

Yeah i noticed from the first second BC had a sweeper in there. They were more hungry for the larger portion of the game and deserved to be in the lead. In saying that us playing 2 forwards was never going to work against it and it took too long to stop the short puck outs that we were allowing BC to walk out the pitch with.

Despite all that i didnt think that BC posed much threat up other than the frees that were their main scoring outlet. Ciaran is a fantastic free taker and rarely, if ever, misses one so he carries the bulk of their scores in a game.

A good learning exercise for everyone id say
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
Is that not the same kind of system that Slaughtneil play?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2020, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
Is that not the same kind of system that Slaughtneil play?

Yeah I would imagine they didnt come up with all by their lonesome  :D

It isnt rocket science to be fair but takes a bit of work and patience to get it right, fair play.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 01:37:02 PM
lol. Yeah I was thinking hmm where is the Slaughtneil manager from.

I was reading mcauley was sweeper. I always thought he was a very intelligent hurler and would be well suited to a role like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 11, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 01:37:02 PM
lol. Yeah I was thinking hmm where is the Slaughtneil manager from.

I was reading mcauley was sweeper. I always thought he was a very intelligent hurler and would be well suited to a role like that.

Even when he was supposed to be  :D

He is was/ is a top player but not many teams should be leaving him as a sweeper.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
There's the first antrim club(I am aware of anyway) to cease activities. A GNM player tested positive.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
There's the first antrim club(I am aware of anyway) to cease activities. A GNM player tested positive.

Not great, games wise and obviously health wise of member... I know we had a couple of non playing members before our games resumed ... But all those within that squad have to do is get tested.. your result will be available the next day!

Suspend is right but get them tested right away and it wont cause too much disruption
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on August 11, 2020, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
There's the first antrim club(I am aware of anyway) to cease activities. A GNM player tested positive.

Not great, games wise and obviously health wise of member... I know we had a couple of non playing members before our games resumed ... But all those within that squad have to do is get tested.. your result will be available the next day!

Suspend is right but get them tested right away and it wont cause too much disruption

That's it safety first, but if you look at the drive in centre at the odyssey it's always very quiet, you can go on book an appointment for pretty much same day/ next day and have your result in 12-24 hours.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on August 11, 2020, 04:16:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 11, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
There's the first antrim club(I am aware of anyway) to cease activities. A GNM player tested positive.

Ladies football mach called off last night too. Nobody tested positive but one of the players was in an establishment which had 4 members of staff tested positive, so precautionary only that the player gets tested too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 13, 2020, 08:00:40 PM
Round 2 predictions let's here yours

Ballycastle vs St Johns - St Johns to bring the Town back down after last weeks draw. Johnnies by 5
Rossa vs Dunloy - Dunloy to get motoring and win by 9
St Galls vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel to win after a tight game by 5
Cushendall vs St Endas - Cushendall to win comfortably by 8

Carey vs Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 2
Armoy vs Randlestown - I'll sit on the fence and call a draw

St Paul's vs Davitts - St Paul's by 10 plus
Larne vs Glenarm - Glenarm to win derby bragging rights by 4 points
Glenravel vs Lamh Dhearg - Glenravel to win by 3
Loch Mor vs St Agnes - Loch Mor by 7

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 13, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
Ballycastle vs St Johns - Ballycastle by 2
Rossa vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 5
St Galls vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 6
Cushendall vs St Endas - Cushendall by 8 or 9

Carey vs Sarsfields - Carey by 3
Armoy vs Randlestown - Armoy by 3

St Paul's vs Davitts - St Paul's by 12
Larne vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10
Glenravel vs Lamh Dhearg - Glenravel by 3
Loch Mor vs St Agnes - Loch Mor by 4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2020, 08:26:13 PM
I miss doing predictions, Some spoil sports about

I need another name to do predictions  8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 13, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
No harm in predicting games your not involved refereeing in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 13, 2020, 09:53:43 PM
I think St. John's have dipped a bit and maybe Ballycastle have improved. That imo might be the tightest in the senior. (Although I think rossa look like they are starting to improve in both codes).Intermediate looks very tight overall. Hard to call those ones. I imagine St. Paul's and cushendun are the team to beat in junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2020, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 13, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
No harm in predicting games your not involved refereeing in

Easier not to...

Some cracking games this weekend, it's been so busy for everyone and trying to manage their players is tough! Even us refs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 15, 2020, 11:26:16 PM

Round 2 predictions let's here yours ...

Ballycastle vs St Johns - St Johns by 6
Rossa vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 10
St Galls vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10
Cushendall vs St Endas - Cushendall by 10

Carey vs Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 2
Armoy vs Randlestown - Randalstown by 2

St Paul's vs Davitts - St Paul's by 15
Larne vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10
Glenravel vs Lamh Dhearg - Glenravel by 6
Loch Mor vs St Agnes - Loch Mor by 6
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
Rossa really putting it up to Dunloy here. Not sure my Ballycastle prediction will be right but still early.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 02:55:28 PM
Couple of tight games here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 03:18:02 PM
Ballycastle and Rossa both winning with not much to go. It's tight.

Cushendall and loughgiel winning comfortably enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 03:32:53 PM
Poor Rossa - goal at the death to draw it!

Rossa and johnnies both drew.

Loughgiel won by 19 and cushendall 11.

Some good tight games in the Dunloy group. More or less both knockout last games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 03:40:04 PM
Were you at it? Wonder what happened there.water break maybe a factor too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 03:32:53 PM
Poor Rossa - goal at the death to draw it!

Rossa and johnnies both drew.

Loughgiel won by 19 and cushendall 11.

Some good tight games in the Dunloy group. More or less both knockout last games.
45 minutes of a second half?  ???
45 minutes sounds mad
Bad injury?
As for Armoy less said soonest mended
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
Fair play to the lads stuck at it when it looked dead and gone!

A lot of injury time but tbf to the ref a lot of Rossa players seemed to go down at different stages throughout the game!

Ronan Molloy put in an exhibition and the equalising score from Chrissy McMahon was a brilliant score!

Been a great Championship, extremely competitive group with 4 good teams!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 04:24:37 PM
If you count 3 minutes for the water break thats still 12 minutes of injury time. Thats mad, not surprised Rossa are a bit sore if there wasnt a bad injury. Thats a hell of a lot of rolling about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 04:40:07 PM
Some interesting results in that group... all to play for

Dunloy and Ballycastle both on 2 points, St Johns on 4 points? And Rossa now on 1 point

Dunloy v the Johnnies wow! Beezer game coming up there

And Ballycastle v Rossa fighting for a place also

Sooner they get rid of the water break the better...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 16, 2020, 04:43:33 PM
St John's 3
Ballycastle 2
Dunloy 2
Rossa 1

Next Sunday will be interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
Fair play to the lads stuck at it when it looked dead and gone!

A lot of injury time but tbf to the ref a lot of Rossa players seemed to go down at different stages throughout the game!

Ronan Molloy put in an exhibition and the equalising score from Chrissy McMahon was a brilliant score!

Been a great Championship, extremely competitive group with 4 good teams!
So there was that amount of stoppages in the 2nd half? Seems odd.

I didn't time it, ones around me had it 9.5 minutes over.

Enjoyable game, Rossa hurled well. Great finale by our lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 05:42:09 PM
Classic GAA 89 buffers ally v Rossa on first
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
Apparantly Ballycastle played the whole second half with 14 men. Were 4 points down and turned it around to lead by two before St Johns equalised in injury time. Good to see Ballycastle and Rossa making strides. Makes the championship much more interesting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
Fair play to the lads stuck at it when it looked dead and gone!

A lot of injury time but tbf to the ref a lot of Rossa players seemed to go down at different stages throughout the game!

Ronan Molloy put in an exhibition and the equalising score from Chrissy McMahon was a brilliant score!

Been a great Championship, extremely competitive group with 4 good teams!
So there was that amount of stoppages in the 2nd half? Seems odd.

I didn't time it, ones around me had it 9.5 minutes over.

Enjoyable game, Rossa hurled well. Great finale by our lads
Antrim Twitter had a score up at 42 minutes into the second half and it wasn't the final score!

Maybe, the number of times Rossa men went down was equally questionable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
What happens after the groups stages?

Top two of each group into semi-finals?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
What happens after the groups stages?

Top two of each group into semi-finals?

Third place go into a quarter final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 07:19:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 16, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 16, 2020, 04:20:04 PM
Fair play to the lads stuck at it when it looked dead and gone!

A lot of injury time but tbf to the ref a lot of Rossa players seemed to go down at different stages throughout the game!

Ronan Molloy put in an exhibition and the equalising score from Chrissy McMahon was a brilliant score!

Been a great Championship, extremely competitive group with 4 good teams!
So there was that amount of stoppages in the 2nd half? Seems odd.

I didn't time it, ones around me had it 9.5 minutes over.

Enjoyable game, Rossa hurled well. Great finale by our lads
Antrim Twitter had a score up at 42 minutes into the second half and it wasn't the final score!

Maybe, the number of times Rossa men went down was equally questionable
So there was that amount of stoppages in the 2nd half. Is that what you are saying? I've never seen nor heard of that amount of time being added on to a half without there being a very serious injury.

As I say I wasn't timing it and it did seem to run on, but Rossa did try and time waste by going down 'injured' on about a dozen occasions.

With the water break it is impossible to time games now as a supporter! Game is up when the ref calls for the ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 07:30:33 PM
I think best going forward (with the water break) is after the last break you've basically 15 mins.. from that point (providing there was no major stoppages before that break) you basically stop your watch with each 'injury' and relay that to the players and managers, there's no comeback then..

I personally stop the watch if someone is taking the piss!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 16, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
Would many of the refs use two watches, one for stoppages and another continuous timer?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 07:36:02 PM
Ref at our game last week told both benches how much added time there would be. Did the one at today's match say 10 minutes?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 07:36:02 PM
Ref at our game last week told both benches how much added time there would be. Did the one at today's match say 10 minutes?

If there are stoppages within stoppage time it'll go on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 07:57:20 PM
Is it top two to go through and does it go on head to head or score difference? I could see Rossa beating Ballycastle and Dunloy beating St. John's then two teams on 3 points. The other group looks almost like a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2020, 08:02:18 PM
Ah. Still an interesting group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on August 16, 2020, 08:06:54 PM
3rd place in that group gets cushendall, 2nd place st galls, important to finish in top 2. If St Johns lose they will (probably) be third. Great group, shame neutrals like me cant get to any of the games next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 16, 2020, 09:45:34 PM
have to be honest we got out of jail, for the second week in a row. again not a good performance but fair play to lads they dug out a result when it seemed impossible.

the time keeping, well it did go on longer than id expected but im always fair and call things as they are. the rossa lads were down injured a serious amount of times - the first half was the same as it over ran by a considerable margin. The full back went down in the first half and there was two fellas working with him, with one of the physios giving the gesture that he needed to be subbed off. 3 mins later hes on his feet running around.

to be fair to the ref he did keep indicating that he was stopping his watch for each time the physio came onto the pitch but it did seem generous over time. Had the shoe been on the other foot we would of been seething as well.

I didnt thing we came out on the good side of the free count, not sure what Rossa scored but the majority was from frees.

The next person to tell me hurling is dying in Belfast is full of shit and hasn't seen Rossa hurl, fantastic spirit and work rate all over the pitch. no one will come to that pitch and walk over them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2020, 11:05:04 PM
Scoring frees and other frees would be different I suppose.

One extra scored free by Rossa on that count.

Sounded like a cracking game, it's always gutting to have victory snatched away, that's two weeks in a row for Rossa but they are still in contention with this group, as is the rest
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2020, 08:29:32 AM
it just felt that during the game with the amount of frees that the scores came from it. My bad, i thought it was in double figures.

Id love to see our wide tally as well from the game. I thought we hit seriously bad wides in that time period, esp when we needed scores badly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 17, 2020, 10:07:01 AM
Thank God Rossa players kept lying down to try and kill the game and well done to the Ref adding it all on. Gave us enough time to draw it at the death.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2020, 10:26:55 AM
I'd imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, there would be some gurning on too much time being added on!

:)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2020, 10:33:03 AM
This has been an issue for a few years in our game in Antrim.

One club who will remain nameless seemed to introduce it but it has now made its way around a few teams. If a player is tackeled and goes down first thing happens is the helmet comes off and that forces the ref to stop the game. Have even seen phsyios or water carriers running in and pullig the helmet off players to get the game stopped.

Need a way to stamp this out. Timing is an issue so when you add this carry on in and a water break it makes it very difficult to keep track of.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 17, 2020, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2020, 10:33:03 AM
This has been an issue for a few years in our game in Antrim.

One club who will remain nameless seemed to introduce it but it has now made its way around a few teams. If a player is tackeled and goes down first thing happens is the helmet comes off and that forces the ref to stop the game. Have even seen phsyios or water carriers running in and pullig the helmet off players to get the game stopped.

Need a way to stamp this out. Timing is an issue so when you add this carry on in and a water break it makes it very difficult to keep track of.

Completely agree
That's two weeks in a row I have watched teams when leading Deploying this tactic. It's one of the things that ruined football. Also a lot more of drawing the foul going on to. What about if a player goes down for more than a minute he has to be replaced with sub. It makes it very hard for refs and a player who is actually hurt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
The problem for a referee, he's generally not a doctor or in the position to make a medical assessment...

He's got responsibility to the players welfare during his game also, and it only takes one incident that the referee says 'carry on, nowt wrong with him' and it ends up the lad needed serious help that he refused..

Yes some players and management take the piss and stopping/breaking up play, and some referees that i know will only stop play for head injuries, that's fine and that is by the letter of the rules in fairness.

The only thing the referee can do is stop his watch, tell players or show the players the watch and let management know you've stopped the clock, it will be added on..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2020, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
The problem for a referee, he's generally not a doctor or in the position to make a medical assessment...

He's got responsibility to the players welfare during his game also, and it only takes one incident that the referee says 'carry on, nowt wrong with him' and it ends up the lad needed serious help that he refused..

Yes some players and management take the piss and stopping/breaking up play, and some referees that i know will only stop play for head injuries, that's fine and that is by the letter of the rules in fairness.

The only thing the referee can do is stop his watch, tell players or show the players the watch and let management know you've stopped the clock, it will be added on..

That is fair enough, but when the lad gets a belt on the ankle and the helmet is removed by a third party the ref could have some kind of warning?

Probably will end up at the stage rugby got too that the play continues while the player is treated. Until the play is endangering the injured party.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2020, 12:34:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 17, 2020, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
The problem for a referee, he's generally not a doctor or in the position to make a medical assessment...

He's got responsibility to the players welfare during his game also, and it only takes one incident that the referee says 'carry on, nowt wrong with him' and it ends up the lad needed serious help that he refused..

Yes some players and management take the piss and stopping/breaking up play, and some referees that i know will only stop play for head injuries, that's fine and that is by the letter of the rules in fairness.

The only thing the referee can do is stop his watch, tell players or show the players the watch and let management know you've stopped the clock, it will be added on..

That is fair enough, but when the lad gets a belt on the ankle and the helmet is removed by a third party the ref could have some kind of warning?

Probably will end up at the stage rugby got too that the play continues while the player is treated. Until the play is endangering the injured party.

I was involved in a game that went well over the extra time but I'd stopped the watch and told the lads and showed them what time we had left, I was still lambasted by their supporters, even though the whistle went exactly on the played time during that half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 17, 2020, 02:32:50 PM
To be fair to Kevin he did show each time that the player went down needing treatment that he was stopping the clock.

Of course had it been us we would of done some moaning. but thats the joy of supporting your club. some day it goes for you some days it doesnt.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on August 17, 2020, 07:13:03 PM
Is it just me or is this years hurling championship look the closest in years. Great to see Rossa back in the upper echalons where they belong. Terrific dual club in my view, never much controversy around them. Plus...Antrim hurling needs the city to be strong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2020, 07:33:46 PM
It was usually just the "big three" but it looks like a few others have stepped up now so looks very competitive. Good to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 17, 2020, 07:54:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 17, 2020, 07:33:46 PM
It was usually just the "big three" but it looks like a few others have stepped up now so looks very competitive. Good to see.

Pity a few more can't see it though!!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 07:58:32 AM
I would hope there are a lot more games streamed in the latter stages and also maybe one of the last group games but I guess not easy to sort out logistics.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 18, 2020, 08:25:42 AM
What are the current arrangements with tickets, do you need to show up to the match and produce a pre printed ticket that displays the name of one of the teams that are playing that day? Are any clubs accepting cash on the gate?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 08:40:03 AM
I am not sure hurling is the same as the football. I think with football you need to bulk buy but not with hurling. I know there were pay at the gate in junior at least. Also they were offering tickets for sale for Loughgiel Cushendall on the county web-site. Some others can probably tell you better as I haven't made a game yet but I think you'd get tickets easier for the hurling than the football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2020, 09:09:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 08:40:03 AM
I am not sure hurling is the same as the football. I think with football you need to bulk buy but not with hurling. I know there were pay at the gate in junior at least. Also they were offering tickets for sale for Loughgiel Cushendall on the county web-site. Some others can probably tell you better as I haven't made a game yet but I think you'd get tickets easier for the hurling than the football.

All tickets in my understanding should have been issued through the clubs only. There is supposed to be any money changing hands or walks ups getting in? this was part of the whole point of the ticketing system. No ticket no entry, seems to have become pretty lax in some places.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Clubs are accepting cash at the gates.

The ticketing seems to have been fully taken up by some clubs whilst others haven't sold their full allocation allowing for additional folk to come in on the day.

Loughgiel sold their tickets for 2 games and were going to have another raffle for the last game v St Endas. They were supposed to have the last game at home v St Endas but due to them breaking the rules by not selling them for all three games they have now lost the home fixture and will instead travel to Belfast this Sunday.

With the next phase of games now being at neutral venues id say that they will get much stricter with regards to the tickets
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 18, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Clubs are accepting cash at the gates.

The ticketing seems to have been fully taken up by some clubs whilst others haven't sold their full allocation allowing for additional folk to come in on the day.

Loughgiel sold their tickets for 2 games and were going to have another raffle for the last game v St Endas. They were supposed to have the last game at home v St Endas but due to them breaking the rules by not selling them for all three games they have now lost the home fixture and will instead travel to Belfast this Sunday.

With the next phase of games now being at neutral venues id say that they will get much stricter with regards to the tickets

I thought the ticket thing was;
1. To keep numbers at the correct level
2. To help track & trace if someone has Covid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2020, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 18, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Clubs are accepting cash at the gates.

The ticketing seems to have been fully taken up by some clubs whilst others haven't sold their full allocation allowing for additional folk to come in on the day.

Loughgiel sold their tickets for 2 games and were going to have another raffle for the last game v St Endas. They were supposed to have the last game at home v St Endas but due to them breaking the rules by not selling them for all three games they have now lost the home fixture and will instead travel to Belfast this Sunday.

With the next phase of games now being at neutral venues id say that they will get much stricter with regards to the tickets

I thought the ticket thing was;
1. To keep numbers at the correct level
2. To help track & trace if someone has Covid.

That's exactly what it was for but seems it doesnt apply to some people, same as the facing coverings in shops.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 07:58:32 AM
I would hope there are a lot more games streamed in the latter stages and also maybe one of the last group games but I guess not easy to sort out logistics.

St Johns Dunloy is being streamed. Great to hear.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 18, 2020, 01:06:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 07:58:32 AM
I would hope there are a lot more games streamed in the latter stages and also maybe one of the last group games but I guess not easy to sort out logistics.

St Johns Dunloy is being streamed. Great to hear.

How much is that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2020, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Clubs are accepting cash at the gates.

The ticketing seems to have been fully taken up by some clubs whilst others haven't sold their full allocation allowing for additional folk to come in on the day.

Loughgiel sold their tickets for 2 games and were going to have another raffle for the last game v St Endas. They were supposed to have the last game at home v St Endas but due to them breaking the rules by not selling them for all three games they have now lost the home fixture and will instead travel to Belfast the S/W this Sunday.

With the next phase of games now being at neutral venues id say that they will get much stricter with regards to the tickets

Fixed that, just in case Paddyjohn comes on ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2020, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Clubs are accepting cash at the gates.

The ticketing seems to have been fully taken up by some clubs whilst others haven't sold their full allocation allowing for additional folk to come in on the day.

Loughgiel sold their tickets for 2 games and were going to have another raffle for the last game v St Endas. They were supposed to have the last game at home v St Endas but due to them breaking the rules by not selling them for all three games they have now lost the home fixture and will instead travel to Belfast this Sunday.

With the next phase of games now being at neutral venues id say that they will get much stricter with regards to the tickets

In the times we were in and still are this is nothing short of disgraceful.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 02:02:51 PM
4 quid according to county facebook Marty.

NAG I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion. If they were still controlling who was there and registering it etc then I don't think it's disgraceful at all. I think it's ridiculous you have to buy a ticket for all the group games. The logistics of it don't add up for me at all. You can track everyone on a game by game basis If the county then allow pay at the gate if you don't sell all your allowance then that goes against their own rules anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 18, 2020, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 02:02:51 PM
4 quid according to county facebook Marty.

NAG I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion. If they were still controlling who was there and registering it etc then I don't think it's disgraceful at all. I think it's ridiculous you have to buy a ticket for all the group games. The logistics of it don't add up for me at all. You can track everyone on a game by game basis If the county then allow pay at the gate if you don't sell all your allowance then that goes against their own rules anyway.

The rules were in place, it was simple. the 3 group games HAD to be sold as a package. It was sure sell two and make some extra cash off the third.

The county should not be allowing pay at the gate under any circumstances. If they have been then questions need to be asked there as well.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 18, 2020, 03:10:37 PM
Sure clubs that have sold the tickets in a 3 block package have been on social media asking any of their fans who did buy the package but can't make the game to leave the tickets back to the club for them to sell to someone who can go instead. No different really to what Loughgiel done and where given more of their supporters a chance to get a ticket for a match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 18, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
Defeats the purpose of selling in 3 games block when someone can attend the first game but then gives the ticket back for the 2nd game for the club to sell to another person
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2020, 03:53:31 PM
The tickets that we were asking for on our own FB page was if anyone wasn't going they could post their name then individuals could sort it out themselves. no money ever was involved on our end for that. the 200 were all sold and what happens after that with them all is up to individuals. its impossible to control what people do with them after they are given them.

Clubs were selling additional tickets that others in their group didn't get sold themselves so there's no wrong doing either with that, but it is wrong that clubs were supposed to only be allowed 200 but now somehow have gotten more breaching the guidelines.

The rules arent being adhered to but if the games are at neutral venues and gate controlled like Casement was or Owenbeg is then no one will get in without a ticket. Its hard to stop people gaining access into club grounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2020, 04:39:33 PM
And there goes the spectators in the 26 counties at sporting events.

sadly its only a matter of time before it happens here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 18, 2020, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 04:39:33 PM
And there goes the spectators in the 26 counties at sporting events.

sadly its only a matter of time before it happens here

Looking forward, it'll be the only way to run off the inter-county season.
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 18, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
i dont see that finishing either if im honest.

They ban people at sports events but are happy to allow them to cram into bars, large crowds working in a factory etc. Makes no bloody sense
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2020, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
i dont see that finishing either if im honest.

They ban people at sports events but are happy to allow them to cram into bars, large crowds working in a factory etc. Makes no bloody sense

A typical ground can hold 200 without being a issue to social distancing! It's been shown in any of the games I've been to that there is plenty space! Some grounds can bring their cars in and watch from there if needs be!

Daft that we can't have this properly looked at and organised by each club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2020, 06:35:26 PM
This new Taoiseach guy down south isn't good. Now do we want to be consistent with the 26 or not lol. I suspect we will have to be. At least johnnies Dunloy is streamed. Mr maybe if we take up reffing we'll see more lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 18, 2020, 08:09:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2020, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 18, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
i dont see that finishing either if im honest.

They ban people at sports events but are happy to allow them to cram into bars, large crowds working in a factory etc. Makes no bloody sense

A typical ground can hold 200 without being a issue to social distancing! It's been shown in any of the games I've been to that there is plenty space! Some grounds can bring their cars in and watch from there if needs be!

Daft that we can't have this properly looked at and organised by each club

Problem is, even with 200/400, everybody is all crammed in together in a line up against the wire.

People seem to think, well I paid in, I can go wherever I want.

Zero responsibilty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 19, 2020, 03:26:42 AM
It's ridiculous that they come down on hard on sport Instead of tacking the main problems with this virus. They don't have a clue what they are doing. Maybe if all host clubs brought in a burger van and served everyone a £9 burger and chip deal with there match ticket everyone would be safe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 19, 2020, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 19, 2020, 03:26:42 AM
It's ridiculous that they come down on hard on sport Instead of tacking the main problems with this virus. They don't have a clue what they are doing. Maybe if all host clubs brought in a burger van and served everyone a £9 burger and chip deal with there match ticket everyone would be safe

eat out to help out  ;D

what is happening in the south is on the face of it nuts as they're not even allowed to bring in the 400 we are (that's meant to include the teams, officials, stewards AFAIK) but you can sit in a pub for 95 minutes horsing the pints into you...

In Down we get 150 to distribute among our supporters all with QR codes and the CB scan everyone in at the gate for traceability. Anything not sold by the clubs are then sold on an app which gives you the QR code for scanning at the gate.

Working well so far.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 19, 2020, 09:24:03 AM
Meanwhile in Ireland they allow the airports to bring people in from other countries unchecked, factories can have over 300 people in them with poor ventilation and no PPE, bars are allowed to be opened up and they are pushing schools to open again.

The solution, stop allowing 200 people to attend an open air sports event and esp the GAA an organisation that was ahead of the thinking compared to the Irish Govt. Micheál Martin showing hes as out of touch with reality of life in ireland as the previous idiot was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 19, 2020, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 19, 2020, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 19, 2020, 03:26:42 AM
It's ridiculous that they come down on hard on sport Instead of tacking the main problems with this virus. They don't have a clue what they are doing. Maybe if all host clubs brought in a burger van and served everyone a £9 burger and chip deal with there match ticket everyone would be safe

eat out to help out  ;D

what is happening in the south is on the face of it nuts as they're not even allowed to bring in the 400 we are (that's meant to include the teams, officials, stewards AFAIK) but you can sit in a pub for 95 minutes horsing the pints into you...

In Down we get 150 to distribute among our supporters all with QR codes and the CB scan everyone in at the gate for traceability. Anything not sold by the clubs are then sold on an app which gives you the QR code for scanning at the gate.

Working well so far.

Wow you guys have got your s..t together
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 19, 2020, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 19, 2020, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 19, 2020, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 19, 2020, 03:26:42 AM
It's ridiculous that they come down on hard on sport Instead of tacking the main problems with this virus. They don't have a clue what they are doing. Maybe if all host clubs brought in a burger van and served everyone a £9 burger and chip deal with there match ticket everyone would be safe

eat out to help out  ;D

what is happening in the south is on the face of it nuts as they're not even allowed to bring in the 400 we are (that's meant to include the teams, officials, stewards AFAIK) but you can sit in a pub for 95 minutes horsing the pints into you...

In Down we get 150 to distribute among our supporters all with QR codes and the CB scan everyone in at the gate for traceability. Anything not sold by the clubs are then sold on an app which gives you the QR code for scanning at the gate.

Working well so far.

Wow you guys have got your s..t together

Every once in a while they do get something right, can't be lambasting them all the time.   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
In the pictures of the first two cushendall games mcmanus is taking the toss for them. Why's he doing that if he's not even playing??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 19, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
In the pictures of the first two cushendall games mcmanus is taking the toss for them. Why's he doing that if he's not even playing??

A good at tossing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2020, 04:02:20 PM
 ;D

Just seems a bit odd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 19, 2020, 04:48:46 PM
How do we see this weekends games going. Couple of really good games to look forward too.

Ballycastle vs Rossa - think this game promises to be a humdinger with Rossa just edging it by a couple of points.

St Johns vs Dunloy - what a game this could be. Champions Dunloy need to win, St. John's have a quarter final spot sealed but will want a win to get semi final place and not have extra game to play. Both teams haven't really got going yet but have shown plenty of battling with late come backs in games. I think St Johns can shade this by a point but wouldn't be a surprise to see result go the other way.

St Endas vs Loughgiel - can't see anything other than a Loughgiel win, st Endas could keep it close if Loughgiel give lads a run out. Loughgiel by 5

Cushendall vs St Galls - think this game will be close enough for a long part with both taking the quarter final spots. Cushendall by 7

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 20, 2020, 11:45:00 PM
plenty of interest this weekend again...

sarsfields v creggan
ballycastle v rossa
st johns v dunloy
gort v ahoghill
randalstown v cloughmills
lamh dhearg v st teresas

all needing points to get through bar st johns

cushendall v st galls
st endas v loughgiel
larne v st pauls
glenarm v davitts
aggies v cushendun
ardoyne v rasharkin

all look to be dead rubbers or one-sided
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2020, 09:44:44 AM
i expect us to get another tough game this weekend at St Johns. The groups so well balanced that any one of the teams will go through to the quarters/semi finals at the moment.

I was chatting to someone during the week and they said that they were shocked we hadn't strolled that group as they though Rossa and Ballycastle were so weak compared to us and St. Johns. I could do nothing but laugh at them for saying that. That was always the toughest group compared to the other one that was so lopsided.

Whoever does go through this group will have had 3 tough games under the belt and then either a quarter final and into the semi final. It will stand them to good steed going forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on August 21, 2020, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 21, 2020, 09:44:44 AM
i expect us to get another tough game this weekend at St Johns. The groups so well balanced that any one of the teams will go through to the quarters/semi finals at the moment.

I was chatting to someone during the week and they said that they were shocked we hadn't strolled that group as they though Rossa and Ballycastle were so weak compared to us and St. Johns. I could do nothing but laugh at them for saying that. That was always the toughest group compared to the other one that was so lopsided.

Whoever does go through this group will have had 3 tough games under the belt and then either a quarter final and into the semi final. It will stand them to good steed going forward.

Will all these games be now run off on a weekly basis DR?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 21, 2020, 10:42:36 AM
Im not sure to be honest.

I was told the football semi finals are next Sunday for ourselves v Ballymena in the Intermediate championship tho there is nothing official up anywhere about it.

theres maybe a chance that the quarters will be a midweek game??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 21, 2020, 04:46:06 PM
Quarter finals are down for Saturday 29th
Semi finals Sunday 6th and the finals Sunday 13th
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 24, 2020, 12:36:34 AM
Bathshack SHC quarter finals
Saturday 29th August
@naomheoinclg v @naomhgall
4pm venue @Paddies1906

@RossaGACBelfast v @RuairiOgCLG
4pm Venue @NaomhEannaCLG
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.

The Rossa and Ballycastle game was a toss up with the bookies it seemed.. big win for Rossa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 24, 2020, 12:31:48 PM
St John's have a week off in the football and 6 days to get ready for a game which should see them getting by St Gall's with a bit to spare.

They are then back at the same stage as last year, to meet Loughgiel is it? Still think it may be Loughgiel's year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2020, 12:34:11 PM
Very tough to get any guide of form this year I guess.

I streamed Dunloy St Johns. Dunloy to me very clear favourites now. That's definitely one of the fastest teams I have seen in antrim hurling. Seaan Elliot starting to make the cut at senior now too and is one of the fastest I have seen (not sure if the brother is faster). Ronan Molloy looks a good one too.

St Johns maybe will rue a bit too much messing about in defense at times but I think Dunloy were just that bit better.

Rossa might give cushendall their fill of it. If there are to be any upsets that will be it though McManus being back will make that less likely. I would say St Johns could maybe rattle Loughiel too. James McNaughton looks in great form though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 24, 2020, 12:31:48 PM
St John's have a week off in the football and 6 days to get ready for a game which should see them getting by St Gall's with a bit to spare.

They are then back at the same stage as last year, to meet Loughgiel is it? Still think it may be Loughgiel's year.

Was looking at our team for the game v Cushendall, short on a few players from the footbball side of things, maybe saving things for The Endas game to decide that group placings..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2020, 12:39:45 PM
* Assuming st johns beat st galls :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 24, 2020, 12:39:45 PM
* Assuming st johns beat st galls :D

::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on August 24, 2020, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.

The Rossa and Ballycastle game was a toss up with the bookies it seemed.. big win for Rossa

Had Rossa in my bet - easy money
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on August 24, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.

The Rossa and Ballycastle game was a toss up with the bookies it seemed.. big win for Rossa

Rossa will have some sort of say in this championship before its over. Cracking team and we played well against them and could only muster a draw. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reach the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 24, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.

The Rossa and Ballycastle game was a toss up with the bookies it seemed.. big win for Rossa

Rossa will have some sort of say in this championship before its over. Cracking team and we played well against them and could only muster a draw. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reach the final.

Different animal outside of Rossa park, never seem to replicate their home form. Some nice young hurlers on the team for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on August 24, 2020, 04:08:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 03:55:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on August 24, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
Weekend's result went pretty much as foreseen then.

Tough on St Johns going from 1st to third in the group, plus a few injuries going to make it even tougher.

The Rossa and Ballycastle game was a toss up with the bookies it seemed.. big win for Rossa

Rossa will have some sort of say in this championship before its over. Cracking team and we played well against them and could only muster a draw. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reach the final.

Different animal outside of Rossa park, never seem to replicate their home form. Some nice young hurlers on the team for sure.

Don't think Ballycastle would agree with you, not looking at that result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 24, 2020, 04:42:29 PM
Rossa will be bloody hard to beat in the quarter finals. For the first time in a long time they have a full panel to pick from with no lads away travelling etc so they are better now than they ever were. We got very lucky to get any sort of result on them. St Johns were lucky as well to nick a result so i wasn't surprised at the result v Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 25, 2020, 08:55:27 PM
Just seen the betting prices for the weekend both St. John's and Cushendall 1/8 shota as if these quarter finals are decided before a ball has been thrown in. Terrible prices while I expect both to probably grind out wins I can see 2 close games. St Johns looked a bit leggy towards the end of the Dunloy game and picked up a few injuries and Rossa have been impressive and have a strong panel this year. Think the odds are insulting to both St Galls and Rossa.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2020, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 25, 2020, 08:55:27 PM
Just seen the betting prices for the weekend both St. John's and Cushendall 1/8 shota as if these quarter finals are decided before a ball has been thrown in. Terrible prices while I expect both to probably grind out wins I can see 2 close games. St Johns looked a bit leggy towards the end of the Dunloy game and picked up a few injuries and Rossa have been impressive and have a strong panel this year. Think the odds are insulting to both St Galls and Rossa.

Where can i see full list of prices
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 26, 2020, 12:03:12 AM
Paddy power and BoyleSports have betting for the 2 senior quarter finals
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2020, 12:08:14 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on August 26, 2020, 12:03:12 AM
Paddy power and BoyleSports have betting for the 2 senior quarter finals

Go raibh maith agat
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on August 27, 2020, 10:34:11 AM
well worth a watch

https://ourgame.ie/rise-of-odonovan-rossa-cushendall-and-dunloy-challenges/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2020, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on August 27, 2020, 10:34:11 AM
well worth a watch

https://ourgame.ie/rise-of-odonovan-rossa-cushendall-and-dunloy-challenges/

Why not call it as it is this year for Rossa especially. Boys can't travel to America, boys cant really summer holiday either, the way we would have in the past years. This is the simple reason why they are competitive this year, talent always been there, application hasn't.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 11:03:17 AM
Boys going traveling etc is hardly application... 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 27, 2020, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 11:03:17 AM
Boys going traveling etc is hardly application...

Well suppose that is down to individual opinion, but it does explain the lack of competitiveness in years gone by.

I'm not saying lads shouldnt travel but it has had a significant impact on them recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 27, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 27, 2020, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 27, 2020, 11:03:17 AM
Boys going traveling etc is hardly application...

Well suppose that is down to individual opinion, but it does explain the lack of competitiveness in years gone by.

I'm not saying lads shouldnt travel but it has had a significant impact on them recently.

Lads going on holidays or pursuing other careers which has taken them away of unavailable for selection has happened for years. This is a amateur sport, opportunities come up and young bucks (or older ones) take them.

As a club you'll always want to play with a full deck.. you can only play with what's available and I'd say there's no complaints from anyone really over missed players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Somebody give me my £5 back...  ;) ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 29, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
ODR Abú.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 29, 2020, 05:49:28 PM
Fantastic result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 06:37:55 PM
Is that big of a shock? Maybe a bit disrespectful to Rossa saying it is.

Fantastic result and fair play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2020, 07:02:50 PM
Great result and no real surprise tbh...

Rossa should have beaten St Johns only for some wrong options they would have, beat Ballycastle well enough and only for the late comeback from Dunloy they'd have won that.

We huffed and puffed against St Johns today and all level at the last water break .. but unfortunately for us we lost a man to a straight red, we lost momentum after that and the Johnnies found their men a lot easier when things opened up, we'd a penalty missed also which would have levelled the game late on but they saved it.

Can't fault our lads for commitment today, as for the Johnnies they'll have a period to get a few players through some injuries for the semi final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
I see one of the Cushendall lads on Twitter asking about the choice of ref for today's game as his club are still involved..

Does he have a point? I'm not one for having a go at refs or questioning their honesty btw. I've known Skinny Cunning for 25 + years and he's always been honest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
I see one of the Cushendall lads on Twitter asking about the choice of ref for today's game as his club are still involved..

Does he have a point? I'm not one for having a go at refs or questioning their honesty btw. I've known Skinny Cunning for 25 + years and he's always been honest.

Surely after the way Ross played against Dunloy this year you'd want The Dall  ;)

On a serious note you have got a referee who's in the top 12 in the country, do we want the best men for the job? Or just give it to someone else because they 'think' he may be biased?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
I see one of the Cushendall lads on Twitter asking about the choice of ref for today's game as his club are still involved..

Does he have a point? I'm not one for having a go at refs or questioning their honesty btw. I've known Skinny Cunning for 25 + years and he's always been honest.

Surely after the way Ross played against Dunloy this year you'd want The Dall  ;)

On a serious note you have got a referee who's in the top 12 in the country, do we want the best men for the job? Or just give it to someone else because they 'think' he may be biased?

Exactly, what other refs would be capable of doing it? You'd be out the window MR2 as the Galls were still involved..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Calm Down on August 29, 2020, 10:42:24 PM
Any Complaints about Burke's red card today MR2?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2020, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 29, 2020, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 29, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
I see one of the Cushendall lads on Twitter asking about the choice of ref for today's game as his club are still involved..

Does he have a point? I'm not one for having a go at refs or questioning their honesty btw. I've known Skinny Cunning for 25 + years and he's always been honest.

Surely after the way Ross played against Dunloy this year you'd want The Dall  ;)

On a serious note you have got a referee who's in the top 12 in the country, do we want the best men for the job? Or just give it to someone else because they 'think' he may be biased?

Exactly, what other refs would be capable of doing it? You'd be out the window MR2 as the Galls were still involved..

At the start of the championship, all refs have clubs involved, it's a stupid statement

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
Cushendun and St. Paul's handing out some hammering sin the junior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2020, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
Cushendun and St. Paul's handing out some hammering sin the junior.
The Dun score sounds like it's basically hitting a score from each poc out so a waste of time for all parties. Not that they'll care.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2020, 11:04:22 AM
Junior B should have been played first and winners go into junior A. Think that's been the case before in fairness
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on August 30, 2020, 11:33:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 30, 2020, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
Cushendun and St. Paul's handing out some hammering sin the junior.
The Dun score sounds like it's basically hitting a score from each poc out so a waste of time for all parties. Not that they'll care.

Looks like those two are well ahead of the other junior teams. Belong in the Intermediate but just the way it's fallen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 30, 2020, 04:40:40 PM
Should make for a great semi final between Cushendun and St Paul's in what is basically the final itself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2020, 12:22:02 PM
Big scoring reserve game last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: smitty1982 on September 01, 2020, 12:53:52 PM
Strange how the county work things , £5 into final last night in Dunsilly yet the minor game on Thursday night is ticket only
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2020, 02:57:49 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 01, 2020, 12:22:02 PM
Big scoring reserve game last night.

Having been involved with our reserves I must say the standard of Dunloy and Loughgiel and Cushendall has been excellent this year at this level..

I would love this to continue but with an amendment that it be tiered some way... that the lower end reserves, ourselves and a few others play off first before meeting the top teams, for as much as we tried the gulf was too wide
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 01, 2020, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: smitty1982 on September 01, 2020, 12:53:52 PM
Strange how the county work things , £5 into final last night in Dunsilly yet the minor game on Thursday night is ticket only

wondered that myself but to be honest there wasnt too big of a crowd there last night to make it worth while printing them out.

do think its silly to have tickets for minor matches and not the reserves.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 03, 2020, 04:08:55 PM
Semi final time let's see your predictions

Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 5
St Johns v Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 3
Carey v Ahoghill - Carey by 5
Randalstown v Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 4
St Paul's v Cushendun - Cushendun by 4
Rasharkin v Glenravel - Glenravel by 2
Davitts v St Agnes - Davitts by 10 plus
Ardoyne v St Teresa's - St Teresa's by 10 plus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 03, 2020, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 03, 2020, 04:08:55 PM
Semi final time let's see your predictions

Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 5
St Johns v Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 3
Carey v Ahoghill - Carey by 5
Randalstown v Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 4
St Paul's v Cushendun - Cushendun by 4
Rasharkin v Glenravel - Glenravel by 2
Davitts v St Agnes - Davitts by 10 plus
Ardoyne v St Teresa's - St Teresa's by 10 plus

Rasharkin to beat Glenravel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 03, 2020, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 03, 2020, 04:08:55 PM
Semi final time let's see your predictions

Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 5
St Johns v Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 3
Carey v Ahoghill - Carey by 5
Randalstown v Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 4
St Paul's v Cushendun - Cushendun by 4
Rasharkin v Glenravel - Glenravel by 2
Davitts v St Agnes - Davitts by 10 plus
Ardoyne v St Teresa's - St Teresa's by 10 plus

I have a sneaky feeling St. John's might beat loughgiel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 03, 2020, 09:07:24 PM

Dunloy v Rossa - Dunloy by 10
St Johns v Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10
Carey v Ahoghill - Carey by 3
Randalstown v Glenariffe - Glenariffe by 6
St Paul's v Cushendun - Cushendun by 3
Rasharkin v Glenravel - Draw
Davitts v St Agnes - Davitts by 10
Ardoyne v St Teresa's - St Teresa's by 20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 03, 2020, 10:40:05 PM
Are the senior semi finals being streamed on Sunday?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 03, 2020, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 03, 2020, 10:40:05 PM
Are the senior semi finals being streamed on Sunday?

I think Jerome said they would be during the coverage of the football on Tuesday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2020, 07:10:14 AM
Not seeing anything on beo sport so not sure they are. Facebook seems to be football only.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2020, 08:10:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2020, 07:10:14 AM
Not seeing anything on beo sport so not sure they are. Facebook seems to be football only.
After the fiasco last day, I'd say that plug may have been pulled
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2020, 08:11:52 AM
They've had two successful games on it though - loughgiel cushendall and st johns dunloy. I'd like to think they haven't given up and the final will be on anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 04, 2020, 08:18:39 AM
Great when it works but a lot of people missed out last day... hope it is available but haven't seen anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2020, 08:25:19 AM
Me neither and I would expected it to have been advertised by now. I really hope the final will be on anyway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: smitty1982 on September 04, 2020, 09:59:03 AM
I think I seen on Dunloys twitter that Antrim Facebook were showing the Dunloy game . Pity they didn't stream the minor games last night as were very good .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on September 04, 2020, 11:08:00 AM
Loughgiel and Ballycastle in the final again. I hope youse are coming up the Glen for the final, might get a chance to watch it  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 04, 2020, 03:57:02 PM
Both senior semi finals are being shown on the Antrim Facebook page
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 03:11:51 PM
St Pauls clearly didn't read the script....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 05, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
Fair play to St Paul's good win for them. Can't see Rasharkin matching them in the final. Unfortunately think it will be a very one sided affair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 05, 2020, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 05, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
Fair play to St Paul's good win for them. Can't see Rasharkin matching them in the final. Unfortunately think it will be a very one sided affair

Winning a lot underage too.

This isn't meant to be a post aimed at starting an argument. But Gaelfast was given to Belfast due to an apparently failing system.  Sitting here in Derry City Belfast already looks incredibly strong. Rossa, st galls, st endas, St John's, st Paul's , Gort na móna, sarfields are all miles ahead of us down here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 06:27:27 PM
Where next for North Antrim hurling?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 06:27:27 PM
Where next for North Antrim hurling?  ;)

It was the ref that beat Cushendun.. Sure he might aswell be from Hannahstown.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 06:27:27 PM
Where next for North Antrim hurling?  ;)

It was the ref that beat Cushendun.. Sure he might aswell be from Hannahstown.
Is that what the boxing was about afterwards?

Glenariffe, Carey, Glenravel and Cushendun all beaten by mid/South Antrim teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2020, 08:51:30 PM
Didn't think randalstown would win that one. Ahoghill either.

I suspect the big one will still reside in north Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 05, 2020, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 05, 2020, 06:27:27 PM
Where next for North Antrim hurling?  ;)

It was the ref that beat Cushendun.. Sure he might aswell be from Hannahstown.
Is that what the boxing was about afterwards?

Glenariffe, Carey, Glenravel and Cushendun all beaten by mid/South Antrim teams.

Mid Antrim? Where's that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 02:36:54 PM
Fcukin fcukitty fcuk!!

Great effort from our lads. Couldn't ask for more than that. Well done Dunloy, it was a smashing game of hurling.

Time somebody shot that McMahon lad.
Can we find some way to blame the ref? Some game and plenty of ebbs and flows in that second half. The coverage again was very good - would love if it was here to stay for the neutral.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 06, 2020, 04:13:44 PM
Jeez Rossa made us sweat for it, as I said before a cracking team. Delighted to get past them and fair play to our players for showing some character when Rossa had us on  the rack.

Chrissy Mc Mahon = supersub
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 05:29:07 PM
Shamrocks getting a serious number of soft frees here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 06:00:07 PM
Ref play for extra time there having rode the Johnnies during the second half?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 06, 2020, 06:01:47 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 06:00:07 PM
Ref play for extra time there having rode the Johnnies during the second half?

Looked like it, ridiculous time keeping
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 06:19:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 06:18:40 PM
Loughgiel could be out of sight at HT in ET. They've missed some chances.

Yeah they've been pretty wasteful. Doesn't look as if the Johnnies have anything left in the legs up front though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 06:43:12 PM
Pretty spectacular day of hurling all round to cap off a pretty crazy week in Antrim GAA
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 06, 2020, 07:20:39 PM
Two great games today, thanks to Sean Kelly and all involved in providing the live action feed. The two city teams can hold their heads up, they are right up there now alongside the big three NA clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: glens73 on September 06, 2020, 07:40:36 PM
Final live next Sunday

Dia Domhnaigh   13 - 09 - 2020
Dunloy Cúchullains v Loughgiel Shamrocks     beo
2-30pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 06, 2020, 07:51:02 PM
2 epic senior finals still to come. Can hardly wait.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 07:57:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Great service provided by Jerome Quinn today. McIntosh is made for it.

I absolutely hated McIntosh on it. Oisin Donnelly was "Dossian" every single time. Kept talking about Winker being the man you'd want to have the ball when he couldn't hit a barn door.

Still, better than Jerome.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 07:57:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Great service provided by Jerome Quinn today. McIntosh is made for it.

I absolutely hated McIntosh on it. Oisin Donnelly was "Dossian" every single time. Kept talking about Winker being the man you'd want to have the ball when he couldn't hit a barn door.

Still, better than Jerome.
Come off it, for someone who doesn't make their living out of the meedja he has been brilliant. Fair enough, maybe the odd slip up, but even the pros do that and he has improved with each outing. The online reception in the Facebook comments have been universally positive and unfortunately for you I'd say he's (hopefully) here to stay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 06, 2020, 08:16:13 PM
I thought McIntosh was very good, an amateur doing it in his spare time & commentating with no programme I think they mentioned as well & doing two games in a day I'm sure it's not easy in fast moving games. I saw nothing but positive feedback earlier, I know he got names mixed up a few times but Marty Morrissey & Ger Canning are still doing that after 30 years at it. Commentating on hurling much more difficult than football
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 06, 2020, 07:57:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Great service provided by Jerome Quinn today. McIntosh is made for it.

I absolutely hated McIntosh on it. Oisin Donnelly was "Dossian" every single time. Kept talking about Winker being the man you'd want to have the ball when he couldn't hit a barn door.

Still, better than Jerome.
Come off it, for someone who doesn't make their living out of the meedja he has been brilliant. Fair enough, maybe the odd slip up, but even the pros do that and he has improved with each outing. The online reception in the Facebook comments have been universally positive and unfortunately for you I'd say he's (hopefully) here to stay.

Come off what? I didn't enjoy it and I stated my opinion.

I'm fully aware it's an amateur production and am thoroughly glad to have it. I think it's a magnificent service.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 06, 2020, 08:37:35 PM
I honestly can't believe that media team weren't provided with a programme, even a panel of players. This would of undoubtedly added to the professional set up.

Jerome Quinn and Tosh along with Kieran McGourty and Chris Kerr on the football side have been superb. First class stuff from the county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 06, 2020, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 06, 2020, 08:37:35 PM
I honestly can't believe that media team weren't provided with a programme, even a panel of players. This would of undoubtedly added to the professional set up.

Jerome Quinn and Tosh along with Kieran McGourty and Chris Kerr on the football side have been superb. First class stuff from the county.

Especially for hurling with everyone wearing a helmet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 06, 2020, 08:46:26 PM
Jerome used to be on here few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NGBlue on September 06, 2020, 08:48:15 PM
Two great games today! Great show of Antrim hurling! Thought mcintosh added to the excitement, pure class! Player of the day has to go to big Domhnall Nugent, one arm bandit!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2020, 08:49:19 PM
A fabulous free service that the county has provided for people unable to get to see the games.

Only watched the Johnnies game and Tosh played a blinder, as said already, for someone only doing this the odd time.

Wife said he was excitable! And at one point I thought my tv was going to fall off the stand!

Hopefully he'll be bringing us more action next week!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2020, 09:00:31 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2020, 08:49:19 PM
Only watched the Johnnies game

You can say that again!  ;D

8)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 06, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2020, 08:49:19 PM
Only watched the Johnnies game

You can say that again!  ;D
Genuine LOL there  ;D

Obviously hadn't the water break etc on the clock but it did seem excessive and I thought it should have been blown up when the Jannies were a pt up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 06, 2020, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 06, 2020, 07:40:36 PM
Final live next Sunday

Dia Domhnaigh   13 - 09 - 2020
Dunloy Cúchullains v Loughgiel Shamrocks     beo
2-30pm

is the game on TG4 next weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 06, 2020, 10:08:23 PM
Quote from: glens73 on September 06, 2020, 07:40:36 PM
Final live next Sunday

Dia Domhnaigh   13 - 09 - 2020
Dunloy Cúchullains v Loughgiel Shamrocks     beo
2-30pm

is the game on TG4 next weekend?
Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone going to mention the standard of refereeing in the St John's game not to mention the standard of time keeping?

St John's should feel massively aggrieved at that and rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2020, 11:44:23 PM
Genuinely curious. Why do you feel St Johns were hard done by? Any particular instances?

Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone going to mention the standard of refereeing in the St John's game not to mention the standard of time keeping?

St John's should feel massively aggrieved at that and rightly so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2020, 11:44:23 PM
Genuinely curious. Why do you feel St Johns were hard done by? Any particular instances?

Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone going to mention the standard of refereeing in the St John's game not to mention the standard of time keeping?

St John's should feel massively aggrieved at that and rightly so.
The time-keeping seems a very specific instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 07, 2020, 12:14:40 AM
"Not to mention the time keeping" would suggest the original poster felt more aggrieved By something else in addition to time keeping hence the query.

I was at the game and saw no issue with the referee so genuinely curious.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2020, 11:44:23 PM
Genuinely curious. Why do you feel St Johns were hard done by? Any particular instances?

Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone going to mention the standard of refereeing in the St John's game not to mention the standard of time keeping?

St John's should feel massively aggrieved at that and rightly so.
The time-keeping seems a very specific instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 07, 2020, 12:37:21 AM
The time keeping is an easy one to remedy as well. If you go back and watch the coverage and the number of breaks etc and time it. The Saffron Gael says "over 11 minutes of injury time" but doesn't say that this also includes the water break.

Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 06, 2020, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 06, 2020, 11:44:23 PM
Genuinely curious. Why do you feel St Johns were hard done by? Any particular instances?

Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone going to mention the standard of refereeing in the St John's game not to mention the standard of time keeping?

St John's should feel massively aggrieved at that and rightly so.
The time-keeping seems a very specific instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 07, 2020, 01:51:55 AM
Johnny McIntosh was absolutley fantastic!

All about opinions but im stunned that anyone could think otherwise

His enthusiam and craic was 1st class and added to the games...plus he was very clear about the score and reminding the viewers the score which is so necessary when you dont have a score graphic and was lacking in the other games ive seen.

He said a few names wrong bht was honestly the best and most enjoyable commentary ive heard in a long long time

What a service....hope it continues after covid. 4.5k homes watching...incredible
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 07, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
Exactly my take on it. As a Loughgiel fan I was the one looking for the whistle at the end so couldn't understand why the timekeeping was being questioned as advantageous to Loughgiel.

The 11 minutes included the water break.

Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2020, 06:44:38 AM
The ref added about 11 minutes on to the 2nd half which was totally unwarranted IMO. However, to say that this shafted the Johnnies rather than Loughgiel is a bit of a stretch.

Loughgiel equalised on 36 mins and took the lead on 37 mins. It could well be argued that with the water break, 6/7 mins over isn't totally ridiculous.

He gave St. John's another 4 more minutes to equalise and they even had a chance to win it. For me, the extra 4 mins definitely takes it into the totally ridiculous.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 07, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
Exactly my take on it. As a Loughgiel fan I was the one looking for the whistle at the end so couldn't understand why the timekeeping was being questioned as advantageous to Loughgiel.

The 11 minutes included the water break.

Quote from: hardstation on September 07, 2020, 06:44:38 AM
The ref added about 11 minutes on to the 2nd half which was totally unwarranted IMO. However, to say that this shafted the Johnnies rather than Loughgiel is a bit of a stretch.

Loughgiel equalised on 36 mins and took the lead on 37 mins. It could well be argued that with the water break, 6/7 mins over isn't totally ridiculous.

He gave St. John's another 4 more minutes to equalise and they even had a chance to win it. For me, the extra 4 mins definitely takes it into the totally ridiculous.

No one said he shafted St John's but to have played 11 minutes of injury time is a bit crazy. It looked like he got that far in when LG equalised that he had to keep playing.
In saying that plenty of times during the game IMO that advantage should have been played for St Johns and it wasnt, one jumps out was the goal missed at the very end. Not changing anything now but just didnt feel right throughout the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
i genuinely though the ref stopped the time at water breaks or am i wrong here?

I referee'd a game there recently (no ref turned up) and i stopped the watch for each break. I thought thats what was supposed to happen seeing as its a stop in play and therefore of no advantage to either team?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2020, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
i genuinely though the ref stopped the time at water breaks or am i wrong here?

I referee'd a game there recently (no ref turned up) and i stopped the watch for each break. I thought thats what was supposed to happen seeing as its a stop in play and therefore of no advantage to either team?

How long did you stop the clock for a water break?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 07, 2020, 09:12:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 07, 2020, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 07, 2020, 09:05:08 AM
i genuinely though the ref stopped the time at water breaks or am i wrong here?

I referee'd a game there recently (no ref turned up) and i stopped the watch for each break. I thought thats what was supposed to happen seeing as its a stop in play and therefore of no advantage to either team?

How long did you stop the clock for a water break?

For that game it was in that mini heat wave so i gave the teams more than a minute. the moment the game restarted i started my stopwatch again. I just assumed thats what you did
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 07, 2020, 09:24:01 AM
As stated during the game, I thought Loughiel were getting some very soft frees in the second half of normal time but I don't think there was anything too outrageous.

Agree that what probably happened was ref realised he'd probably let it go too long with Loughiel managing to edge into the lead and gave the Johnnies every chance to equalise, subconsciously or otherwise.

The ref didn't beat the Johnnies though. Loughiel's deeper bench and fresher legs did.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 07, 2020, 09:42:28 AM
Re. the fresher legs - related to playing football as a dual club or general fitness? There was a bit of back and forth on this on the Facebook comments in the Dunloy v Rossa match and people were responding that Dunloy also had a couple of football matches with one as recent as Friday night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 07, 2020, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 07, 2020, 09:24:01 AM
As stated during the game, I thought Loughiel were getting some very soft frees in the second half of normal time but I don't think there was anything too outrageous.

Agree that what probably happened was ref realised he'd probably let it go too long with Loughiel managing to edge into the lead and gave the Johnnies every chance to equalise, subconsciously or otherwise.

The ref didn't beat the Johnnies though. Loughiel's deeper bench and fresher legs did.

So couple that to the injury time which the johnnies went into 3 up.

Fair play to LG for hanging in and pegging it back but IMO it shouldn't have even got that far.
Yeah the fitness told in the end as well but it shouldn't have needed too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: gallsman on September 07, 2020, 10:10:05 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 07, 2020, 09:42:28 AM
Re. the fresher legs - related to playing football as a dual club or general fitness? There was a bit of back and forth on this on the Facebook comments in the Dunloy v Rossa match and people were responding that Dunloy also had a couple of football matches with one as recent as Friday night.

I don't know enough to comment on whether the football had an impact but I more meant the deeper bench and fresher legs being two sides of the same coin. Loughiel could bring on good hurlers who were (obviously) fresh running against lads who were justifiably exhausted.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 07, 2020, 10:16:35 AM
Up here in Derry there is a consensus that the dual player is quite often a fitter player, although I think the tighter schedules this year may be having an impact in Antrim anyhow.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 07, 2020, 12:56:46 PM
I don't think Loughgiel's bench is as deep as you think. In extra time they brought two lads back in who had been subbed off in normal time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 07, 2020, 01:42:33 PM
So what's the deal about tickets for ballycastle this weekend.
Some rumours suggest no ticket allocation at all and it's behind closed doors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2020, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 07, 2020, 01:42:33 PM
So what's the deal about tickets for ballycastle this weekend.
Some rumours suggest no ticket allocation at all and it's behind closed doors.

It's in 2 weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 07, 2020, 02:13:37 PM
Hurling final is this Sunday. Football is the following weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 07, 2020, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 07, 2020, 01:51:55 AM
Johnny McIntosh was absolutley fantastic!

All about opinions but im stunned that anyone could think otherwise

His enthusiam and craic was 1st class and added to the games...plus he was very clear about the score and reminding the viewers the score which is so necessary when you dont have a score graphic and was lacking in the other games ive seen.

He said a few names wrong bht was honestly the best and most enjoyable commentary ive heard in a long long time

What a service....hope it continues after covid. 4.5k homes watching...incredible

Couldn't agree more, I found the whole thing v refreshing and watchable and credit to everyone behind it. I would go so far as to say I found Johnny easier to listen to than his former club colleague of BBC fame who seems to try to be like Seamus Heaney in every sentence he comes out with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 07, 2020, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 07, 2020, 02:13:37 PM
Hurling final is this Sunday. Football is the following weekend.

So it is
My bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 07, 2020, 03:30:18 PM
Different styles, Mark a classy operator too though -  to be fair. Wears his heart on his sleeve too and not afraid to pin his colours to the mast in the BBC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!

I thought the schools were back and all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 08, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!

I thought the schools were back and all.

Must be allowed their mobiles during morning break..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 08, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!

I thought the schools were back and all.

Must be allowed their mobiles during morning break..

why should everything be nice and dandy it will be a close tight game bla bla.

mark my words, the game will be over as a contest by the first water break.

i happen to know a bit about the game.  i will accept apologies come sunday evening.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 08, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!

I thought the schools were back and all.

Must be allowed their mobiles during morning break..

why should everything be nice and dandy it will be a close tight game bla bla.

mark my words, the game will be over as a contest by the first water break.

i happen to know a bit about the game.  i will accept apologies come sunday evening.

First off I doubt you are even from Dunloy coming with a statement like that in the week leading up to a county final.

Secondly you havent been to too many Dunloy LG matches if you ever think they follow any sort of form guide.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 08, 2020, 10:40:35 AM
Just a mention away from the final
RIP Anthony Doherty
Anthony was a big club supporter and his son Paul is on the Senior panel and played in goals for the Reserves helping them to win the title last Monday week.
Anthony was a great club man and contributed quietly in many ways. Deepest sympathy to Son Paul and wife Siobhan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 08, 2020, 10:43:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 10:28:22 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 10:14:02 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 08, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cuchullain Gael on September 08, 2020, 09:34:14 AM
this sunday is going to be the most one sided final seen in a long time in antrim snr hurling cship.


even better news is that the whole country is going to witness it!

I thought the schools were back and all.

Must be allowed their mobiles during morning break..

why should everything be nice and dandy it will be a close tight game bla bla.

mark my words, the game will be over as a contest by the first water break.

i happen to know a bit about the game.  i will accept apologies come sunday evening.

First off I doubt you are even from Dunloy coming with a statement like that in the week leading up to a county final.

Secondly you havent been to too many Dunloy LG matches if you ever think they follow any sort of form guide.

This guy shows up in some form or other not every time Dunloy reach a final but every time dunloy reach a final with LG
Strange one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 08, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
Tell me this how much does Antrim gaa get from the game being broadcast live on Sunday?

I'd assume they will clearly get more than giving it away for free on Facebook! but at the same time if they did PPV on a stream this weekend is that less than what TG4 will be giving them?

I see Tyrone gaa think they will make more streaming their final live than moving it to a sat night so RTE cameras can show it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pearse Blue on September 08, 2020, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
Tell me this how much does Antrim gaa get from the game being broadcast live on Sunday?

I'd assume they will clearly get more than giving it away for free on Facebook! but at the same time if they did PPV on a stream this weekend is that less than what TG4 will be giving them?

I see Tyrone gaa think they will make more streaming their final live than moving it to a sat night so RTE cameras can show it
The talk in Tyrone was they received £15k from RTE for the double header on Saturday.. Don't know whether or not to believe that? Seems like a lot and but don't know much about it.

But when you think about it, they were streaming games for £5 meaning 3000 people would have to buy for them to get £15k   
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 08, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
Tell me this how much does Antrim gaa get from the game being broadcast live on Sunday?

I'd assume they will clearly get more than giving it away for free on Facebook! but at the same time if they did PPV on a stream this weekend is that less than what TG4 will be giving them?

I see Tyrone gaa think they will make more streaming their final live than moving it to a sat night so RTE cameras can show it

You would assume they were paying Jerome Quinn so losing money. That being said I still would say it's worth it for promotion of the games though obviously if money can be made all the better!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 08, 2020, 11:39:58 AM
Also to be fair to TG4 their coverage is excellent and they were the shining light for clubs when RTE or streaming services weren't.

TG4 deserve to pick which ever game they want and this should not be about money, they have been around every county and countless club venues to promote our games, they deserve our support first.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2020, 12:11:40 PM
Agreed. Their service has been excellent for years. Always look forward to their monday night show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 09, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-county-pros-are-amateur-heroes/

Our esteemed PRO making the news himself for a welcome change. What an operator...best in the land!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 09, 2020, 05:30:57 PM
Quote from: bannside on September 09, 2020, 02:28:13 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-county-pros-are-amateur-heroes/

Our esteemed PRO making the news himself for a welcome change. What an operator...best in the land!

Great Article
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 10, 2020, 12:10:50 AM
Hopefully Paul Shiels will be fit on Sunday. Always a pleasure to watch the man hurl and with the game on TG4 it good to have all the best players available for both sides
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The stig on September 11, 2020, 08:14:16 PM
Very quiet on here for championship week must b a lot of nerves about :-X :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2020, 08:20:10 PM
Dunloy by 4. Saw on twitter Dunlop's ticket raffle . Sad the way so many from Dunloy and loughgiel won't get to it but at least it's on tv.

Is shiels available? May have a big bearing on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2020, 04:50:17 PM
Brilliant win for our minors today. Nice to see them defend their title.

Ballycastle have some nice hurlers too but their mentors / supporters behaviour towards the end was a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2020, 05:04:46 PM
Fantastic result for Tir an Og ... can't believe that's their first ever win at that level... watched it on fb and the commentary was spot on from two biased'ish clubmem

Ref'd them start of year and in championship thought they'd give it a rattle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on September 12, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2020, 05:04:46 PM
Fantastic result for Tir an Og ... can't believe that's their first ever win at that level... watched it on fb and the commentary was spot on from two biased'ish clubmem

Ref'd them start of year and in championship thought they'd give it a rattle

Congratulations to Tir Na Og, didn't expect them to do it. Fair play to all involved

As for the minor match today Congratulations to Loughgiel, comfortably the better side
The full back, McCluskey? was excellent and Endas two young boys are fine hurlers as is young Jack McCloskey. Loughgiel always carried a goal threat and made it count.

As for the row at the finish, if you are going to tell a yarn tell a full yarn. No spectators were involved but almost every player and all of both benches were involved including a Loughgiel senior hurler who is very lucky to be lining out tomorrow. Hitting juvenile players is not a good look, especially when you end up put on your arse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 12, 2020, 10:08:11 PM
Come off it.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2020, 04:50:17 PM
Brilliant win for our minors today. Nice to see them defend their title.

Ballycastle have some nice hurlers too but their mentors / supporters behaviour towards the end was a disgrace.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
Quote from: breakingball on September 12, 2020, 10:08:11 PM
Come off it.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Quote from: north aontroim gael on September 12, 2020, 04:50:17 PM
Brilliant win for our minors today. Nice to see them defend their title.

Ballycastle have some nice hurlers too but their mentors / supporters behaviour towards the end was a disgrace.

Seems to be one common thread in any trouble that there has been in the county over past ten (or maybe more) years.....answers on a post card
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 10:27:23 AM
Good luck to all today. Safe travels to those attending.

Up the good guys  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Straighttalker76 on September 13, 2020, 10:35:44 AM
Completely laughable that someone from loughgiel is on talking about the behaviour of supporters when their own supporters are probably the worst out there was it not at an under 16 game last year or year before where their supporters pushed the mother of a referee to the ground after a game she was umpiring at. Also the same senior hurler for loughgiel ho was hitting juveniles yesterday was the same player who started the whole palava at last year's minor final  but if he did Indeed hit a juvenile yesterday a lengthy ban from every gaa ground should do him no harm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 06:32:47 PM
Thoroughly deserved win for Dunloy today, far superior team. I think Loughgiel would be better off going forward without Watson,as good as he has been, he's now holding them back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2020, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Would love to see them v Slaughtneil
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
Very much so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 08:24:24 PM
Everything was going through him to the extent they were becoming predictable and easy to stop. He's still a danger but Loughgiel aren't going to improve while he's taking a youngsters spot. Just my opinion.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2020, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Would love to see them v Slaughtneil

They wouldn't count against S'Neill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 08:24:24 PM
Everything was going through him to the extent they were becoming predictable and easy to stop. He's still a danger but Loughgiel aren't going to improve while he's taking a youngsters spot. Just my opinion.

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Everything was going through him because none of the other forwards were winning their battles. It had to go through him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
Thought MR2 had a bit of a stinker today, poor call leading to Dunloys first goal and how much injury time did he signal and play at the end of the first half?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on September 13, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Did Watson only join the team again just after lockdown or was he playing earlier in the year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on September 13, 2020, 09:28:35 PM
The referee has form for questionable timekeeping as anyone who watched last year's football final can testify.

Quote from: Calm Down on September 13, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
Thought MR2 had a bit of a stinker today, poor call leading to Dunloys first goal and how much injury time did he signal and play at the end of the first half?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on September 13, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Did Watson only join the team again just after lockdown or was he playing earlier in the year?

Not sure Marty. He was meant to have retired. Unsure if it was lockdown or whatever brought him back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on September 13, 2020, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on September 13, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Did Watson only join the team again just after lockdown or was he playing earlier in the year?

Not sure Marty. He was meant to have retired. Unsure if it was lockdown or whatever brought him back.

Ok. Thanks.

For however good he was, even today, you'd think there'd be young lads who'd be pushing for a place before him.

Hard to know as we're not privy to when he came back but he oews Loughgiel nothing. A very talented hurler.

Were Loughgiel beat in the camogie recently or was that intermediate?

Dunloy seem to be just ahead of everyone in Antrim. On their day, others could match them but they're building gradually and are getting physically stronger year on year.

Antrim championship was super this year - honourable mention to St. John's and Rossa also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 13, 2020, 11:48:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2020, 07:58:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 13, 2020, 07:21:58 PM
Sure he was arguably their best forward so I don't see how you got that.

Dunloy just too good. Too much speed everywhere and defence just very much on top the whole game. How fast is Seaan Elliot. One of the fastest I have seen in Antrim. Sooner he is in the senior county setup the better.

Dunloy will dominate for a while by the looks of it.

Would love to see them v Slaughtneil

They wouldn't count against S'Neill.

Maybe your right, never the less we wouldn't mind another crack at them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 14, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
Dunloy will be top of the pile for a time to come. Cushendal have little coming through, Loughiel have some decent but not spectacular underage teams, certainly not enough to compete with Coby, Keelan, Ronan, Seaan, Eoin, Deáglan and Ryan to name a few of their young guns.

Outside of that St John's and Rossa are next closest but only with their current crops. Could they do it over the next year or two? Maybe, if they keep everyone fit.

Ballycastle have underachieved for 30 years - the club needs read out from top to bottom. No coaching structures, no interest in developing weaker players. Until they get a hurl in every child's hand they will keep getting the same results. A fractured club.

St Endas are arguably the club everyone should be looking over their shoulders at. A great set up with great structures. A Gaelscoil in their grounds, great numbers and already success is starting to come their way in both codes. They travel to NA to compete in hurling competitions every week - clear buy in from the parents.

3 fully deserving Champions at the weekend. The senior game felt like a training match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bogieman on September 14, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
Watson is one of the best hurlers I've ever seen, and still one of the best on view Sunday.

Ps well done Dunloy, will be there for a few years, it's the extra fitness and additional skills from the footie
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 14, 2020, 11:31:20 PM
Saw the video doing the rounds of the end of the Ballycastle game on Saturday. Disgusting and gutless act by that Ballycastle lad, shouldn't be allowed to hurl for a few years. Also the mentor slapping him on the back needs taken to task
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 15, 2020, 06:57:20 AM
Given one of their club men is doing a stretch inside for a nasty incident at a juvenile hurling match you'd think they'd learn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2020, 09:34:49 AM
enjoyed the game sunday when the final whistle went lol only then can you actually relax!

Ballsy call to win the toss and not take the wind but our game plan worked out very well and that goal we got was massive. to go in at half time with the wind at our backs and level i felt we had the upper hand.

At the end up Loughgiels two goals were only there to take the bad look off the score line as it was a well deserved win for ourselves.

Neilly McGarry was fantastic for Loughgiel. A great hurler and someone who they should be intending to make sure hes kept on. He could do a job in there for a few more years. Loughgiel need to start blooding in their young lads in over the next few years and accept that they are in a rebuilding phase if they are wanting to move forward.

Hopefully now over the next few years we can keep improving and building the team. If we do that i dont see why we cant win many more championships.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2020, 10:01:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 15, 2020, 09:34:49 AM
enjoyed the game sunday when the final whistle went lol only then can you actually relax!

Ballsy call to win the toss and not take the wind but our game plan worked out very well and that goal we got was massive. to go in at half time with the wind at our backs and level i felt we had the upper hand.

At the end up Loughgiels two goals were only there to take the bad look off the score line as it was a well deserved win for ourselves.

Neilly McGarry was fantastic for Loughgiel. A great hurler and someone who they should be intending to make sure hes kept on. He could do a job in there for a few more years. Loughgiel need to start blooding in their young lads in over the next few years and accept that they are in a rebuilding phase if they are wanting to move forward.

Hopefully now over the next few years we can keep improving and building the team. If we do that i dont see why we cant win many more championships.

I had the captains in and carried out the toss, Shorty won it and said that he'll play against the wind, i then asked him again, are you sure? lol! I said at the time that's a big call, he was as cool as a cucumber!

Watched it last night, maybe one or two calls or non calls i could have done, but the benefit of watching replays will always change your view. On the timing, TG4 stopped their clock on the water breaks, so it made my calling of injury time out of sync, so each half ended 2 minutes shorter than the  time on the TV.. so 5 minutes and 6 minutes were actually played as injury ;D

On McGarry, I thought he was immense in fullback and was dealing with a running forward line, Kevin Molloy was MOM for me followed very closely by Shorty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 15, 2020, 11:31:40 AM
to be honest i didnt think you got anything badly wrong. hindsight its easy to see it from a camera and call it differently but in full flow its not easy to get everything right all the time. I did think the throw up and catch you called on Liam in the first half was wrong even from where i was standing at the far end lol but here it happens.

Even the bookings etc you got them right, even if we were all howling for a red! lol

In the end none of the frees had any bearing on the game as we were in full control in the second half. The second goal killed the game completely.

Again your timing was spot on as the cameras didn't let it run on like it was at the ground so the 6 mins were played at the end of the game.

Dan McCloskey tried his best but everthing he did seemed to go wrong. I had some sympathy for him as he was trying his best but it was one of them days that it just wasnt going to fall for him. The goal chance he could of passed it but it was actually a good tackle by woody that stopped the shot on goal.

Neillys a class act and you seen it on the pitch when Lgiel were under pressure in the second half. Fantastic performance from him and also a real sportsman at the end as he waiting to the side of the celebrations to shake every players hand - same with Tony McCloskey.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Time Hurler on September 15, 2020, 06:14:22 PM
DR, I agree with you about Neilly McGarry. He was the shamrocks stand out defender. Pivotal moment for me was Dan McCloskey going through and not laying ball off, when it was cleared I knew the game was Dunloys.  Some of Loughgiels match ups in 1st half were suspect as well imo, Tony marking Seann was always gonna be tough on him.

On another note, does anyone know if leagues are gonna continue on 27 September? I can see pluses and negatives for it but in my opinion I think it would be good for clubs to give squad players game time as most teams always need to find 1 or 2 more players each year. Losing 3 months of season due to lockdown and most teams out of championship by end of August means 11 months with no hurling which I think is too much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2020, 08:03:40 PM
Love the picture of Watson drinking in Dunloy with a load of Dunloy ones giving the camera the middle finger ;D Fair play to him.

McGarry was great. I thought dobbin was good too. Dunloy have so much pace that if they keep up a work rate then the other team has to work so hard and then they tire. I think even had that goal went in for loughgiel it still would have ended up as it did.

Dunno about leagues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 16, 2020, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on September 15, 2020, 06:14:22 PM
DR, I agree with you about Neilly McGarry. He was the shamrocks stand out defender. Pivotal moment for me was Dan McCloskey going through and not laying ball off, when it was cleared I knew the game was Dunloys.  Some of Loughgiels match ups in 1st half were suspect as well imo, Tony marking Seann was always gonna be tough on him.

On another note, does anyone know if leagues are gonna continue on 27 September? I can see pluses and negatives for it but in my opinion I think it would be good for clubs to give squad players game time as most teams always need to find 1 or 2 more players each year. Losing 3 months of season due to lockdown and most teams out of championship by end of August means 11 months with no hurling which I think is too much.

Problem is for the match ups for LG where do they go? Pace is their real issue in the back line and no matter what the match ups were they were going to struggle.

Second issue for them is their top performers on the day most likely won't be there next year. Dunloy arent going away with that young team, so even with two 'good' minor teams I am not sure it is going to be enough to bridge that gap. Realistically they could be looking at needing 3, 4 or 5 of those minors straight into a senior team. I'm not sure that will work.

Think the toss was interesting, If LG would have won it they would have played into it as well I am pretty sure. They would would have been prepped to slow the game down, puck outs free etc keep themselves in the game. So I would say it was a surprise to them when Dunloy did the opposite to what was expected.

All in all a great championship with problem 5/6 top class games, let's hope we can keep 5 or maybe even 6 teams competing at that level next year.

Ps Scrap the leagues whats the point at this stage.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2020, 08:30:46 AM
Realistically with mcmanus not getting any younger I think Rossa look like their biggest threat at the minute - longer term anyway. Cushendall maybe will challenge them for a couple of years but Graffin, McManus and even Magill are getting that bit older and I don't think they'll be replaced too handily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on September 18, 2020, 11:29:30 AM
It's disgraceful that there are no club All Ireland's. The club championship should have been given full priority over inter-county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 18, 2020, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Enlighen me, what exactly what are you getting at?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 18, 2020, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Enlighen me, what exactly what are you getting at?

Not hard to understand.

If he was in Ballycastle coaching his own club, he would have more weight behind any argument he is putting forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on September 18, 2020, 01:26:19 PM
I'm not sure why he'd have any more weight in that scenario. You're conflating unrelated issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2020, 01:30:54 PM
Most of the major top hurling clubs use outside managers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 18, 2020, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 18, 2020, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Enlighen me, what exactly what are you getting at?

Not hard to understand.

If he was in Ballycastle coaching his own club, he would have more weight behind any argument he is putting forward.

What world do you live in ffs lol. For you to state it as 'fact' is even more bewildering.  Here's a fact, S'neil won the Ulster Club senior hurling title's as a result of S'neill identifying they hadn't the skill set in management in their club to get to that level. They identified Mc Shane as having that ability and he proved S'neils judgement as correct. They were a puck away from an All Ireland final last Autumn as a result of the upward trajectory under leadership.  As a result of being the manager of Sneil his opinion is respected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Slaughtneil are one of the highest profile clubs in Ireland atm but there manager wouldn't have the same influence as Henry shefflin ( ballyhale ). Anyway this Covid BS has gathered momentum again so it's feasibility ( club provincials ) is a moving target.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 11:34:28 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 18, 2020, 10:50:14 AM
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ain't gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Slaughtneil are one of the highest profile clubs in Ireland atm but there manager wouldn't have the same influence as Henry shefflin ( ballyhale ). Anyway this Covid BS has gathered momentum again so it's feasibility ( club provincials ) is a moving target.

The issues are completely related. The fact you want to look the other way on external managers is your issue.
For me I would respect it a lot more if he and his 'coaches' had stayed around and worked through a tough period for their own club.

If he had done so and made BC competitive then I would be more inclined to listen to his opinion. Hard to decipher the motivation of wanting the season extended when there are different outcomes for those involved.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2020, 02:01:12 PM
Would love to see the club championships go ahead , in Newry last year S'Niel were so unlucky and if you look at Ballyhale again this year they still seem to be the team at the top so far, they managed to come back from the dead against the Village at the weekend, the quality they have is something else but S'neill last year were one team that pushed them to the end..

They may still have the edge over Dunloy in Ulster, but that tide will turn for sure..

Was McShane not managing his own club? Maybe felt there was no real buy in to his approach and he moved on, or was asked to go with another club..

Personally its very difficult to go back into managing your club with the same set of players you had before, same voice and same attitude ..

I'd wait till there was no one I'd managed before and then maybe look at it, coming back down to the juveniles before going back up again.

I don't think anyone can knock what he has done with that team , they are a top ten team in club hurling in Ireland
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2020, 02:03:28 PM
i think maybe hes getting at the fact that the Derry hurling championship isnt very competitive - well in the past lot of years it hasnt been - and theres only 8 clubs compete in the composition and realistically only 2 have a chance of getting the final/winning it.

Sneill are a fantastic hurling team and a side that are loaded with great hurlers but to the rest of Ireland they are still only from Derry and not one of the bigger hurling counties. For as great as they are they are still a side that nearly won a semi final once. If they had of chinned Ballyhale (which they could of done) then people might take Michael more serious.

As others have said you look at the other county finals that have come and gone in Wexford, Waterford etc and no one wanting the Club championship to keep going. These counties are more interested in competing for the Liam McCarthy Cup at this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 02:05:51 PM
It's obvious why he wants the season extended, the team he takes narrowly missed out on beating the all Ireland champs. He quite rightly wants another crack at the all Ireland. As for taking another club jeez your pissing on the wind on that one. Was just listening to Cheddar plunket there and he was taking James Stephens this year. So if a Laois man get take one of the top clubs in Kilkenny what's the problem. Did MmcS not take BS with limited results. Maybe that old addage "your never a prophet in your own land" applies here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2020, 02:10:47 PM
i did wonder if he was to come back to BC would it help them?

They performed well this year in the championship and showed theres potential in the squad. if they can take a few more minors into their panel for the winter and next year and remain fully committed they can challenge again at senior level.

Tho judging by some of the video clips ive seen from the end of the minor match they would need to sort out some of the poor discipline in that batch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 18, 2020, 02:16:07 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=R4Sf3Ml72IQ

For what's its worth, the logic that we (Dunloy) aren't just ready for SG just yet does hold some water but I for one wouldn't mind a crack at them now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 18, 2020, 03:11:30 PM
id love another go at them again to see where we are against them.

They are some outfit and you cant not admire them. From front to back they are all good players and physically strong as well.

I can understand why they would be disappointed in not having the club championship with how they finished last season. they would be favs to win ulster and wouldnt fear anyone in the semi finals.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 06:59:35 PM
Loughgiel Camogs stepping it up a gear in the second half. Roisin McCormick running the show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2020, 07:16:03 PM
She sounds to be a real good one. Loughgiel very dominant in Antrim but just have a formidable opponent in slaughtneil when it comes to Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
7 in a row in a very one sided final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 21, 2020, 03:27:59 AM
Will league games be going ahead? I'm hearing murmurs of a few clubs finished up for the season now. Suppose with Championship over there isn't really the eagerness to play so called meaningless league games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Time Hurler on September 21, 2020, 04:17:43 AM
I've heard that league games will go ahead but clubs will not be forced to play. I think clubs should play games, even though there is no promotion and relegation, and no county players included, to give squad players and up and coming players game time before next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2020, 07:12:10 AM
How is the hurling panel looking? Be good to see the likes of Ronan  Molloy and Seaan Elliot in it.  Nugent, Johnston, molloy, McManus,Mcnaughton and the likes of Elliot or cunning would be some forward line. I haven't seen much of Rossa but with how they did they must have some players to add too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on September 21, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Will Nugent be fit? A dislocated elbow is a bad injury even if he did do brilliantly with it in the Loughgiel match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 22, 2020, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 06:59:35 PM
Loughgiel Camogs stepping it up a gear in the second half. Roisin McCormick running the show.

was at the game on Sunday. really entertaining match between the two sides but Loughgiel were always on top from the very start of the game. Ballycastle did get back into the game but they never looked like going in front.

Christine Laverty was Loughgiels best player. serious work rate and broke up so much ball, won it and then delivered into the forwards. That said they will struggle to beat Sneill. they look seriously good still.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2020, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 22, 2020, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 06:59:35 PM
Loughgiel Camogs stepping it up a gear in the second half. Roisin McCormick running the show.

was at the game on Sunday. really entertaining match between the two sides but Loughgiel were always on top from the very start of the game. Ballycastle did get back into the game but they never looked like going in front.

Christine Laverty was Loughgiels best player. serious work rate and broke up so much ball, won it and then delivered into the forwards. That said they will struggle to beat Sneill. they look seriously good still.

1st half was competitive enough i suppose but the 2nd half was a whitewash. Think Ballycastle scored once - with a few minutes to go. They just don't have enough quality up front and they couldn't contain Catrion Dobbin and Roisin McCormick. Christine Laverty had a good game but Roisin McCormick was head and shoulders above the rest. Even when they doubled up on her she still won 90% of the ball. Think she finished with about 15 points.

Dunloy v Ballycastle is where the battles lie over the next few seasons. Loughgiel too far in front to be caught just yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on September 22, 2020, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 22, 2020, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 06:59:35 PM
Loughgiel Camogs stepping it up a gear in the second half. Roisin McCormick running the show.

was at the game on Sunday. really entertaining match between the two sides but Loughgiel were always on top from the very start of the game. Ballycastle did get back into the game but they never looked like going in front.

Christine Laverty was Loughgiels best player. serious work rate and broke up so much ball, won it and then delivered into the forwards. That said they will struggle to beat Sneill. they look seriously good still.

Is there an Ulster club camogie final this year DR? There's only 2 teams so it'd be relatively straight forward to run off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
I think there is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2020, 08:31:03 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2020, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 22, 2020, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2020, 06:59:35 PM
Loughgiel Camogs stepping it up a gear in the second half. Roisin McCormick running the show.

was at the game on Sunday. really entertaining match between the two sides but Loughgiel were always on top from the very start of the game. Ballycastle did get back into the game but they never looked like going in front.

Christine Laverty was Loughgiels best player. serious work rate and broke up so much ball, won it and then delivered into the forwards. That said they will struggle to beat Sneill. they look seriously good still.

1st half was competitive enough i suppose but the 2nd half was a whitewash. Think Ballycastle scored once - with a few minutes to go. They just don't have enough quality up front and they couldn't contain Catrion Dobbin and Roisin McCormick. Christine Laverty had a good game but Roisin McCormick was head and shoulders above the rest. Even when they doubled up on her she still won 90% of the ball. Think she finished with about 15 points.

Dunloy v Ballycastle is where the battles lie over the next few seasons. Loughgiel too far in front to be caught just yet.

Yeah them pair up front are total quality. they are fantastic players and are the main scoring threat for Loughgiel. Young McKillop had a good game as well, they pushed her up rather than in defence and she broke up alot of ball and won it as well. Good decision to play her where they did.

Ourselves, well we made a balls of the semi final against Ballycastle. We beat them twice in the year but come championship we played nothing and were 1-08 to 0-01 down. BC never scored in the second half and despite us playing so bad we could of won the game.

I wouldnt say Loughgiel are streets ahead at the moment. I would say they used to be but the gaps closing now on them. they used to beat us by 30 points now the max is single figures, but they are still the standard bearers for Camogie in Antrim that we all need to get to their level.

we have a lot of strong young girls into the senior set up that won the last 3 U16 titles in a row and the Minors so with time id be confident we will be there or thereabouts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 23, 2020, 08:38:11 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Anyone else think the rise of ladies football will have an affect on camogie? Popping up all over Derry and we would be a camogie county. Very easy to get a team going in matter of months. I hope camogie can sustain itself, a much better game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2020, 09:05:21 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

This one has baffled me for a while, how does this keep happening? Surely having won it there should be the stipulation that you are senior grade the following year. Also slightly irksome on the socials when you keep hearing about the great achievement year after year, romping the Down championship and then entering a championship in Ulster that they are over qualified for.

I would have thought that there would be some ambition to at least test themselves and see where they are at one year JC no?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2020, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up

How camogie is organised really is a head scratcher at times both in Down and in Ulster.

As for Clonduff, I'd have thought they'd have been wanting to push up to senior but maybe the thought of running into SN and Loughgeil puts them off, I don't know. Maybe picking up lower level baubles is their thing...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 23, 2020, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 11:31:52 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up

How camogie is organised really is a head scratcher at times both in Down and in Ulster.

As for Clonduff, I'd have thought they'd have been wanting to push up to senior but maybe the thought of running into SN and Loughgeil puts them off, I don't know. Maybe picking up lower level baubles is their thing...

Shouldn't be a choice. You win the intermediate you automatically have to go up a level, should apply across the board for all the competitions.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 23, 2020, 11:58:23 AM
Is there not something about 5 years with this in the hurling? Not sure about football but the likes of Rock keep coming back in it so not sure it applies.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: the colonel on September 23, 2020, 12:01:57 PM
It won't be the club who decides they stay at a certain level for the following year. That is determined by the County/ Provincial Council.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 23, 2020, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 23, 2020, 12:01:57 PM
It won't be the club who decides they stay at a certain level for the following year. That is determined by the County/ Provincial Council.

In Down Camogie the CB are Clonduff.
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 23, 2020, 12:23:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 23, 2020, 11:58:23 AM
Is there not something about 5 years with this in the hurling? Not sure about football but the likes of Rock keep coming back in it so not sure it applies.

Reduced to 3 years and only applies to Hurling grades
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 23, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.

Different organisations have different expectations and rules.Would the camogie association in ulster, be planning for an outcome in all ireland series ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 23, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 23, 2020, 04:12:49 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 23, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 23, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.

Different organisations have different expectations and rules.Would the camogie association in ulster, be planning for an outcome in all ireland series ?

Yeah they are. Ulster starts shortly for Creggan and Tir Na nOg in the Shield and Junior championship for each side. Loughgiel have to wait to January for an Ulster final.

The AI series is after the provincial series in each grade.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 23, 2020, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 23, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?

Seen a Facebook post up about that actually, be interesting to hear the truth of it

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1036703576791256&id=100013548708032
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2020, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 23, 2020, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 23, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?

Seen a Facebook post up about that actually, be interesting to hear the truth of it

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1036703576791256&id=100013548708032

Had no idea there was a change until I seen a photo days after and was wondering what cup they were holding
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 23, 2020, 05:51:16 PM
I can sense a major backlash if this is a decision that was rushed through by the County executive. Will be interesting to see how this develops.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 23, 2020, 08:16:07 PM
It was proposed that the Volunteer Cup be taken out of service due to the state and the age of the cup - dates from the 30's and the fact it may have been battered about a bit over the years (I think it is made from Irish silver which isn't available any more). It was proposed that the trophy be presented to the winning captain then withdrawn (like the Scottish Cup, the original is presented to the winning team and a replica presented for the lap of honour etc). Dunloy were the holders at the time and they supported the proposal with no objection from the clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
It's an iconic cup, and if that's the case that it'll be presented then so be it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 24, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
I see there are hurling league fixtures down for this Sunday. I must say I didn't see them going ahead after the championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2020, 10:24:32 AM
I don't think our game is on this Sunday. BC aren't seeing themselves wanting to field in the game and to be honest i don't think anyone from our end cares either.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2020, 01:53:59 PM
DR has Dunloy a S&C coach, is he Eoin Mc Nicholl? From Glenullin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 24, 2020, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: Dunsilly King on September 24, 2020, 01:53:59 PM
DR has Dunloy a S&C coach, is he Eoin Mc Nicholl? From Glenullin?

Yeah he is. Hes been there this past few years with the club.

Really good, hes been fantastic for the panel as a whole and hes really in demand for clubs and other sports.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 24, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
Any word on you lads moving to the Croke Park approved new age groups of U13, U15 and U17?

Pain in the hole this age difference when looking friendlies and the likes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on September 24, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 24, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
Any word on you lads moving to the Croke Park approved new age groups of U13, U15 and U17?

Pain in the hole this age difference when looking friendlies and the likes.
Is a team being a year older putting you off? ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 24, 2020, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 24, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 24, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
Any word on you lads moving to the Croke Park approved new age groups of U13, U15 and U17?

Pain in the hole this age difference when looking friendlies and the likes.
Is a team being a year older putting you off? ;D

This will be implemented in 2021 !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 24, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 24, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 24, 2020, 03:29:52 PM
Any word on you lads moving to the Croke Park approved new age groups of U13, U15 and U17?

Pain in the hole this age difference when looking friendlies and the likes.
Is a team being a year older putting you off? ;D

Well I've had a lad ask me to make sure we'd bring our u14's and not our u15's once, so it cuts both ways
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Time Hurler on September 26, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
Does anyone know if Junior and Intermediate Championship winners have to automatically play at higher championship level in 2021 in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 26, 2020, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on September 26, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
Does anyone know if Junior and Intermediate Championship winners have to automatically play at higher championship level in 2021 in Antrim?
Definitely play up a grade
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on September 30, 2020, 03:28:00 AM
What way is the spectator situation for the Antrim vs Kerry game in Tullamore. Will fans be allowed to attend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 30, 2020, 08:33:29 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on September 30, 2020, 03:28:00 AM
What way is the spectator situation for the Antrim vs Kerry game in Tullamore. Will fans be allowed to attend?

With a resurgence of this virus in a couple of the clubs, what's the chances of the game even going ahead?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 11:09:56 AM
A case reported from someone in the Lurig Bar on saturday night could upset things as well
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 11:57:49 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 11:09:56 AM
A case reported from someone in the Lurig Bar on saturday night could upset things as well

A heap of cases in Ballycastle and Loughiel and my nephew was telling me that there's a few in Glenravel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:25:18 PM
If its with certain members of a team that team and those associated with it should isolate for sure, if said individuals have not been with another team within the club then no reason to not 'crack on' .

We are going to get cases for the next 2/3 years its how we manage the situation to lessen the transmission is the way forward..

Otherwise we may just close the pitches down and wait on a vaccine, how ever long that will be and whether it works or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 30, 2020, 12:45:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:25:18 PM
If its with certain members of a team that team and those associated with it should isolate for sure, if said individuals have not been with another team within the club then no reason to not 'crack on' .

We are going to get cases for the next 2/3 years its how we manage the situation to lessen the transmission is the way forward..

Otherwise we may just close the pitches down and wait on a vaccine, how ever long that will be and whether it works or not

Yeah that is it in a nutshell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 11:57:49 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 11:09:56 AM
A case reported from someone in the Lurig Bar on saturday night could upset things as well

A heap of cases in Ballycastle and Loughiel and my nephew was telling me that there's a few in Glenravel.

5 positives in Glenarrife that are known about just from this morning as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on September 30, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
yeah theres been a few cases in our area as well. Its mostly coming from younger ones passing it onto each other in social circles which was always going to happen now with so much opened up now.

Its a good time to pull the plug on things now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 30, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 11:57:49 AM
Quote from: MoChara on September 30, 2020, 11:09:56 AM
A case reported from someone in the Lurig Bar on saturday night could upset things as well

A heap of cases in Ballycastle and Loughiel and my nephew was telling me that there's a few in Glenravel.

5 positives in Glenarrife that are known about just from this morning as well.

I get what MR2 is saying, but realistically what are we playing competition wise at the moment?
Are we not lucky to have had the season we had and would it not be an idea to say wrap it up for the year and come back in the new year and go again.

Fair enough let the county lads go ahead and form a new bubble for the next couple of months and hopefully get the county season played out as well. With all the precautions that go with that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on September 30, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
yeah theres been a few cases in our area as well. Its mostly coming from younger ones passing it onto each other in social circles which was always going to happen now with so much opened up now.

Its a good time to pull the plug on things now.

So if it's always going to happen playing games will increase it? Look I'm all for safety and yes the big teams have played their summer and the reality is championship is only show in town , never any bragging rights go with the league.

This is purely (I believe) to give lads a run out to get a few games they wouldn't have got as they may not have been first team or fringe players games.. if it's unrealistic or unsafe then don't bother.

But safe enough to whack them all in the pub!  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
From what I can gather, the aftermath of recent championship wins or defeats are part of the problem in the areas mentioned. Clearly school etc has played a part also. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 08:06:54 PM
Yeah our county not alone in this either. Heard of a big one in down.

Pub only allows people from two families at a table...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 08:06:54 PM
Yeah our county not alone in this either. Heard of a big one in down.

Pub only allows people from two families at a table...

Do they f**k ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 08:06:54 PM
Yeah our county not alone in this either. Heard of a big one in down.

Pub only allows people from two families at a table...

Do they f**k ;D

;D Them's the rules though highly unlikely they're adhered to mind you lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 30, 2020, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
From what I can gather, the aftermath of recent championship wins or defeats are part of the problem in the areas mentioned. Clearly school etc has played a part also.

A bit of correlation between championship final wins ,/ loses in East down and North down. Some cases in North Antrim, as mentioned, related to matches a possibility?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 30, 2020, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
From what I can gather, the aftermath of recent championship wins or defeats are part of the problem in the areas mentioned. Clearly school etc has played a part also.

A bit of correlation between championship final wins ,/ loses in East down and North down. Some cases in North Antrim, as mentioned, related to matches a possibility?

RUMOUR is that a lad from Loughiel was positive and didn't know and went to celebrate with the team who won the championship and it was passed on to the players and then he went to work and by the time he tested positive it was all over Ballycastle also. One of the Loughiel girls goes with a lad from Waterfoot and that was a knock on effect. A few Glenravel players went to Ballycastle on Saturday and the whole minor set up has been tested now. St Killians College has been shut for the next 2 days for a deep clean.

I know we can't control players outside the pitch but it kinda shines a bit of unwanted attention to the clubs from some circles.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Lot of stories round Saul in down too. It'll be interesting what happens in Dungannon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 09:42:55 PM
Lot of stories round Saul in down too. It'll be interesting what happens in Dungannon.

It'll be blamed on the meat plant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2020, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 30, 2020, 08:51:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
From what I can gather, the aftermath of recent championship wins or defeats are part of the problem in the areas mentioned. Clearly school etc has played a part also.

A bit of correlation between championship final wins ,/ loses in East down and North down. Some cases in North Antrim, as mentioned, related to matches a possibility?

RUMOUR is that a lad from Loughiel was positive and didn't know and went to celebrate with the team who won the championship and it was passed on to the players and then he went to work and by the time he tested positive it was all over Ballycastle also. One of the Loughiel girls goes with a lad from Waterfoot and that was a knock on effect. A few Glenravel players went to Ballycastle on Saturday and the whole minor set up has been tested now. St Killians College has been shut for the next 2 days for a deep clean.

I know we can't control players outside the pitch but it kinda shines a bit of unwanted attention to the clubs from some circles.

young lad didn't know he was positive. went out the Sunday after the camogie and it got passed on to some of the other ones. I was at the same bar that night in Loughgiel and had a real sweat on waiting to see if some of the folk id been chatting to were positive from their tests. Thankfully they weren't and its been nearly 2 weeks since that time and ive been staying away from as many people as i could just to make sure.

Its passing around the young folk like wild fire now, which was to be expected, so the fact we got our seasons all over and finished was a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2020, 08:36:00 AM
At the club meeting the other night there we decided against playing in the football and hurling league this year.

Once the minor camogie is finished the club facilities (pitches, 4G pitch) will be shut down till next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 08:41:19 AM
Its passing round not because of the said celebrations but because of the restrictions being opened up that much more..

I wouldn't be looking to put myself in that position due to working reasons and the health of ones in my family but at the same time sensible reasoning while out shouldn't have to end up in a whole village being infected, no need to be drinking from the cup, hugging and singing wildly in the bar, that should all have been restricted, and following good sanitizing methods would have certainly reduced the spread..

But hey when you're a young buck, you think you're invincible !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 01, 2020, 08:53:32 AM
well thats it. when your young you don't care about things like this. Its a problem for older folk to be worrying about. Your unbreakable at that age and its not something you need to care about.

we were all there at that stage of our lives. Its hard to fault the younger ones for that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 01, 2020, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 08:41:19 AM
Its passing round not because of the said celebrations but because of the restrictions being opened up that much more..

I wouldn't be looking to put myself in that position due to working reasons and the health of ones in my family but at the same time sensible reasoning while out shouldn't have to end up in a whole village being infected, no need to be drinking from the cup, hugging and singing wildly in the bar, that should all have been restricted, and following good sanitizing methods would have certainly reduced the spread..

But hey when you're a young buck, you think you're invincible !

Unfortunately this seems to have been case in some places and is going to lead to a wider spread in the community which everyone was seeking to avoid. As you say oh to be young and invincible, but also when the drink is in the wit is out.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 01, 2020, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 30, 2020, 08:06:54 PM
Yeah our county not alone in this either. Heard of a big one in down.

Pub only allows people from two families at a table...

Yip, and it was the celebrations that night were the problem.....

One of our feckin idiots in the middle of it and him with a vulnerable brother and his ma a district nurse.

Big boot up the hole required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
Are you talking hurling or football here? I was talking football and suspect you mean hurling lol. If so what are Ballygalget people doing celebrating a portaferry win  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 01, 2020, 09:49:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 01, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
Are you talking hurling or football here? I was talking football and suspect you mean hurling lol. If so what are Ballygalget people doing celebrating a portaferry win  ;D

No, I'm talking football.

Yes we do have some lads playing for other clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2020, 09:52:21 AM
Ah good. Hadn't heard of any outbreak round your way.

Yeah not much big ball down there so got to be done.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 07:40:58 PM
Antrim Camogie cancelling the minor championships. Likely a wise call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?

£50 a game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?

£50 a game.

What???? When that happen?  Is that intercounty?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?

£50 a game.

What???? When that happen?  Is that intercounty?

That's what I get 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?

£50 a game.

What???? When that happen?  Is that intercounty?

That's what I get 🤷‍♂️

You referring in Derry?  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 11:45:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 01, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Do referees get paid for officiating League matches?

£50 a game.


What???? When that happen?  Is that intercounty?

That's what I get 🤷‍♂️

You referring in Derry?  ;D

Derry/Tyrone
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bronco on October 02, 2020, 08:53:00 AM
What is it in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2020, 10:33:18 AM
According to Glenravels Facebook page they are in shut down for another 2 weeks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2020, 10:41:43 AM
Quote from: Bronco on October 02, 2020, 08:53:00 AM
What is it in Antrim?

Course starts in January, all would be revealed then.. just expenses
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2020, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2020, 10:33:18 AM
According to Glenravels Facebook page they are in shut down for another 2 weeks.

I think that is pretty much everyone in NA shut or shutting down now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Youse north Antrim ones know how to party!!

Think everything will grind to a halt soon anyways

Think we have to be pleased with getting all the championships done and they gave up some games along the way..

Tir Na Og and St Paul's in the hurling threw up the surprising results Moneyglass finally getting over the line at intermediate and a Cargin double double!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2020, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Youse north Antrim ones know how to party!!

Think everything will grind to a halt soon anyways

Think we have to be pleased with getting all the championships done and they gave up some games along the way..

Tir Na Og and St Paul's in the hurling threw up the surprising results Moneyglass finally getting over the line at intermediate and a Cargin double double!!

The McCooeys don't have a lot to party about pal  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2020, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2020, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Youse north Antrim ones know how to party!!

Think everything will grind to a halt soon anyways

Think we have to be pleased with getting all the championships done and they gave up some games along the way..

Tir Na Og and St Paul's in the hurling threw up the surprising results Moneyglass finally getting over the line at intermediate and a Cargin double double!!

The McCooeys don't have a lot to party about pal  ;)

Yeah we are a busted flush.... St. Paul's was rocking though and Ardoyne haven't stopped
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 05, 2020, 08:10:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 01, 2020, 07:40:58 PM
Antrim Camogie cancelling the minor championships. Likely a wise call

Made the right call there. As much as we would of loved to have ran it out over the two weekends its not worth it now.

You see what happened in Loughgiel with a small cluster and then the same in Glenravel so it was a good time to shut it all down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 13, 2020, 11:15:47 PM
How's our senior team shaping up for the weekend. Anyone involved been affected by this coronavirus? Is big Domhnall fit after his dislocated elbow?. Massive game on Sunday if it goes ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 15, 2020, 03:24:29 AM
Seen our panel for Sunday on social media and it looks really strong especially our options in the forwards, great problem for Darren Gleeson and co to have. Quietly confident just a Shame we can't be there to cheer the lads on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on October 15, 2020, 08:32:54 AM
Is the game v Kerry on Sunday due to be streamed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2020, 08:48:22 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on October 15, 2020, 08:32:54 AM
Is the game v Kerry on Sunday due to be streamed?

Both games streamed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 15, 2020, 10:21:41 AM
strong panel with the best hurlers from each club in now at the moment. Good to see.

Adding in Damon McMullan and TC from Loughgiel further strengthens the defence and then Conal Cunning being fit to play for Antrim for the first time this year is another bonus.

Its as good a squad as weve had in a long time and its such a pity we cant travel to support the team but it is what it is and we have to make the best of it.

Have the two games to be streamed this Sat and Sunday so hopefully Antrim can get two wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 15, 2020, 08:44:21 PM
What's the fan situation up here now in these new regulations. Can we attend the U20s game in Ballycran?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 15, 2020, 10:47:39 PM
No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 02:57:45 PM
This is a tight one. Come on Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 03:11:06 PM
Great result. Especially after losing McManus so early.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 18, 2020, 03:49:46 PM
Great result for Antrim. Best team in league all year. Playing in better league will bring them on really well.

This is more important than Joe Mc Donagh but now it's out of the way, they'll be under no pressure and can give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 04:21:18 PM
Was a polished performance from the guys. Outstanding scores and matched a Kerry team that have given us our fill of it for a few seasons!

Lost Neil After his first run for the ball, big loss and to come off so quickly I'll be hoping it's not to bad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 18, 2020, 08:16:58 PM
Great result and performance against what is a very dogged Kerry team. We were far superior than the 3 point win suggested. Gave away two soft goals but other than that our defence seemed well on top our half back line immense and up top the work rate of our forwards and scores was class all this with losing our talisman early on. Today was more important than the Joe McDonagh cup but this will instill great confidence into our lads for the upcoming games. Here's to division 1 hurling next year and who knows maybe a trip to come this year to Croke Park on all ireland final day. Up the Saffs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 08:29:15 AM
great performance from the lads yesterday. Really impressed with how we played and dealt with each of the Kerry goals and how they responded to it t get a goal back themselves.

Losing Neil never seemed to hinder us at all. i was surprised he started considering he hasn't hurled much this season but we have the players there now who can step up. Hopefully hes back again for the JMcD Cup matches

Coby was fantastic up front and so was James McNaughton when he came out of the corner. Even bigger bonus was now we have two accurate free takers on the forward line with Neil missing.

Overall we looked the better team and fully deserved the win. Division 1 next year and some really good games to look forward to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 19, 2020, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2020, 03:11:06 PM
Great result. Especially after losing McManus so early.

To be honest I actually think this helped the performance. Meant we had to go with quick ball into the faster forwards and let the game flow.

Both teams better up front than at the back, but we were definitely the better team comfortably I thought.

Some great pieces of play throughout the match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.

Without the minor finalists teams available then we'd be naturally short of our better players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on October 19, 2020, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.


Without the minor finalists teams available then we'd be naturally short of our better players
It was u-17 so a lot of the better minors are too old. Loughgiel had 1 player on the team/panel Ballycastle had none, not sure what that was about but last year at U-16 Glenarriffe and Rossa were the dominant sides, particularly Glenariffe who won the McMullen cup and the championship, both sides had lots of players on the panel and in Rossas case in the starting 15.
I watched the second half myself and it was poor enough although the red card was harsh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 19, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.

Serious question - when was the last time that Antrim beat a minor team from outside Ulster? We got to the final in 1940 so presumably we beat someone to get there. But other than that?

Even our "good" team of two years in the mid 2000s - McManus, Graffin, Hippy Donnelly, Shanebo, McAuley, Shiels etc - didnt win one, although they were terribly unlucky against Limerick and a bit unlucky against Galway

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 19, 2020, 07:19:51 PM
Leinster either very late 70s or early eighties I would imagine. I think we competed in Leinster then.

We were unlucky against I think tipp? the year Brian mcfall was a minor. Must have been 95 or so? From memory Kieran Kelly playing and maybe Conor cunning if I mind right?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 19, 2020, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on October 19, 2020, 06:42:05 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.

Serious question - when was the last time that Antrim beat a minor team from outside Ulster? We got to the final in 1940 so presumably we beat someone to get there. But other than that?

Even our "good" team of two years in the mid 2000s - McManus, Graffin, Hippy Donnelly, Shanebo, McAuley, Shiels etc - didnt win one, although they were terribly unlucky against Limerick and a bit unlucky against Galway

That good minor team got more work and training than any team since 1940. Fair dues to woods and sambo for putting in the work and raising the money to go down south and play all those challenge matches. What's the chances Kildare got some good matches in for preparation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on October 19, 2020, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 19, 2020, 07:19:51 PM
Leinster either very late 70s or early eighties I would imagine. I think we competed in Leinster then.

We were unlucky against I think tipp? the year Brian mcfall was a minor. Must have been 95 or so? From memory Kieran Kelly playing and maybe Conor cunning if I mind right?

You are quite right - Antrim got to a Leinster minor final in 1979 when they were beaten by Kilkenny. I think Niall Patterson and a couple of others on the 1989 team were on that team.

Buit the general point still stands - we have been (generally) woefully uncompetitive at minor and indeed under 21 level (save for the victory over Wexford in 2013) - for our entire history.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2020, 07:17:41 AM
Yeah you aren't wrong. I was just thinking out loud. I do think we were robbed against limerick mind you but that would just be the one game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 20, 2020, 08:21:55 AM
Quote from: up the rovers on October 19, 2020, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 19, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
did anyone watch the minor game on sat?

I sat through the most of it and to be honest we looked very poor. I think it was actually U17 was it rather than minor?

Even still we looked way off the pace against an average Kildare side.


Without the minor finalists teams available then we'd be naturally short of our better players
It was u-17 so a lot of the better minors are too old. Loughgiel had 1 player on the team/panel Ballycastle had none, not sure what that was about but last year at U-16 Glenarriffe and Rossa were the dominant sides, particularly Glenariffe who won the McMullen cup and the championship, both sides had lots of players on the panel and in Rossas case in the starting 15.
I watched the second half myself and it was poor enough although the red card was harsh

That's the one upside of playing U17 club championships like we do, although for the year that's in it our county U17 management invited three of our lads who're U15 onto the panel without realising they were ineligible...........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2020, 10:05:44 AM
sat last night and watched the U20 game between Clare and Tipp on TG4. couldn't help but think we would of been well off the pace for that standard.

You would have to wonder what they are doing at training from underage to have them moving the ball about like that. Some of it is fairly loose and they over pass the ball at times but they are always looking for a pass and then moving again wanting another pass - almost like football at times.

On another note it was nice to see our highlights make it on tv last night - at the end of the show after the minor hurling games and all the football matches. Lip service as always towards the lower tiers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 20, 2020, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 20, 2020, 10:05:44 AM
sat last night and watched the U20 game between Clare and Tipp on TG4. couldn't help but think we would of been well off the pace for that standard.

You would have to wonder what they are doing at training from underage to have them moving the ball about like that. Some of it is fairly loose and they over pass the ball at times but they are always looking for a pass and then moving again wanting another pass - almost like football at times.

On another note it was nice to see our highlights make it on tv last night - at the end of the show after the minor hurling games and all the football matches. Lip service as always towards the lower tiers

I have to say I was very impressed by an U12 Dunloy team we'd down at a tournament last year, their first instinct was to look for the pass, what I'd call heads up hurling. It didn't always work for them but the Dunloy management not once scolded any of the wee lads when they made a mistake. They got beat by Ballycastle in the final but IMO the better style of hurling was Dunloys and will stand by them as they develop through the years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2020, 12:37:00 PM
DR I always thought we competed up until U14 level and then the southern teams would diverge from us.

The speed things are done at and the physicality just are a different level. Then when we play the teams playing at this pace we're not even thinking at that speed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 01:12:23 PM
Watched the game also and spoke at length with another hurling gael during it, the Tipp lads didn't panic even though they were 4 points down at half time, came out and stuck to the game plan, intelligent ball into the wings, cross field passes and putting the ball into the forwards who could score!

The speed, touch, physicality, cuteness on the ball is so far ahead of our lads, one basic factor is probably their school hurling level is at better levels than ours.

I've seen some games and ref'd some school finals and the standard is crap to be fair, the winning teams are generally so much better, having a competitive school hurling will improve, then clubs need to be in an elite league where teams are at the same level and committed to improving their lot, away weekends in hurling heartlands is a must!

We are to busy or concerned with looking after our own club team rather than the county, been like that for years, in fairness more so county football but have seen it creep in at times in hurling, boys not talking to each other clubs staying/sitting together on the bus or after dinner meals, never passing a ball to another club man an so on...

The commitment level that Sambo and Woody put into that minor team was immense.. the kids bought into it, and we were still behind. Bridging that gap is a huge ask. competing in Leinster is important, Kildare/Carlow and Westmeath have decent teams at underage and at senior, locality and schools/college hurling is at a higher standard..

We don't put enough into school hurling. If we start at primary and continue to drive right through then you can change it, if not we are pissing against the wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on October 20, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 20, 2020, 12:37:00 PM
DR I always thought we competed up until U14 level and then the southern teams would diverge from us.

The speed things are done at and the physicality just are a different level. Then when we play the teams playing at this pace we're not even thinking at that speed.

a dozen or so years ago we'd a thing going with the Crokes in Dublin. Each year we'd send down an underage team and they'd send one up the following year, started with U12's. We gave them a right good go at it right up to U14, a few points either way then they gave us a trimming at U16 so much that we ended up just about beating their Minor B team two years later.

Similarly we'd an U10 team down with Ballyragget a few years back and they'd organised a blitz with ourselves, themselves and O'Loughlin Gaels. We beat both with the Gaels so pissed off they wanted to play us again which we did and beat them again much to their amusement. Same Ballyragget team was up in our place two years ago and beat us in a good contest.

The speed in our hurling and technique seems to go backwards at a serious rate through these formative years and something that hard to put a finger on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 20, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
i think thats the part i noted as well MR2. I was sat watching it with my dad and he was blew away at the pace they operated at throughout the game.

Some of it was careless at times but they always want to retain the possession of the ball and every single player looked at ease operating at pace and with the ball.

i then cast back to our U17 game on sat and it gave me the fear lol those lads are only two/three years ahead of them and they were miles ahead of us. I know its maybe not fair to compare apples and oranges but its hard not to compare when you see what's in front of them all.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 20, 2020, 02:34:22 PM
The reality is the pace of the game played by the top southern teams is light years ahead of us.

I always thought mind you Dinny Cahill had us playing at a great pace. I assume the training he did was all real high paced high intensity stuff but even with half decent teams it was only with him I only ever saw us playing good high paced hurling. It wasn't quite at the level of the top boys but we gave tipp their fill of it one year and tbh but for a seriously suspect referee would have beat wexford then beat a half decent dubs side too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 20, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
Well hopefully our U20s can go out tomorrow evening against Dublin and put in a better performance than what paddy power think we are capable off pricing us at 9/1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
A member of Antrim hurling panel has tested positive for Covid

So the player obviously didn't have symptoms until they returned on Sunday, tested on Monday and result today ??!!  ::)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
A member of Antrim hurling panel has tested positive for Covid

So the player obviously didn't have symptoms until they returned on Sunday, tested on Monday and result today ??!!  ::)

Might not had symptoms but someone he was in contact with might have had it and felt obliged to get a test?

Who knows only the person tested, guess work at this stage, player or squad member?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
A member of Antrim hurling panel has tested positive for Covid

So the player obviously didn't have symptoms until they returned on Sunday, tested on Monday and result today ??!!  ::)

Might not had symptoms but someone he was in contact with might have had it and felt obliged to get a test?

Who knows only the person tested, guess work at this stage, player or squad member?

The advice if you are a close contact is to self isolate, not get tested, not that people pay any heed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2020, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
A member of Antrim hurling panel has tested positive for Covid

So the player obviously didn't have symptoms until they returned on Sunday, tested on Monday and result today ??!!  ::)

Might not had symptoms but someone he was in contact with might have had it and felt obliged to get a test?

Who knows only the person tested, guess work at this stage, player or squad member?

The advice if you are a close contact is to self isolate, not get tested, not that people pay any heed.

I know what the advice is... so if you know the ins and outs of it then just say? Or are you unsure of the facts and just want to start rumours?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 20, 2020, 08:16:51 PM
Is the match on GAAGO this weekend?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 20, 2020, 11:26:47 PM
Every match not already covered by RTE, TG4 or SKY is on GAAGO
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 21, 2020, 02:29:45 PM
looks like we will be missing a few lads this weekend with positive covid cases plus ones having to isolate potentially. Was always going to happen at this stage of the year and the number of case rising all the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2020, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 21, 2020, 02:29:45 PM
looks like we will be missing a few lads this weekend with positive covid cases plus ones having to isolate potentially. Was always going to happen at this stage of the year and the number of case rising all the time.

Cases?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 21, 2020, 03:13:26 PM
3 positive so far that I've heard about. Not naming anyone as that sort of stuff is private but it seems as if all the players are getting tested now as precaution.

it can be handled and maintained but its a reality check of where we all are at the moment. Hopefully everyone is ok first and foremost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 21, 2020, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 21, 2020, 03:13:26 PM
3 positive so far that I've heard about. Not naming anyone as that sort of stuff is private but it seems as if all the players are getting tested now as precaution.

it can be handled and maintained but its a reality check of where we all are at the moment. Hopefully everyone is ok first and foremost.

Of course.

I was just aware of the one case, that is why I enquired.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 21, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
Hopefully we dont have anymore cases in the panel.

I think we have done very well in Antrim overall with how things have been handled.

despite the negative news and pure bile and hatred directed towards the GAA this past few weeks our clubs have handled things brilliantly. I only know of a few cases within clubs so have go a full season played off and next to no disruption is a testament to our vols.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2020, 02:09:47 PM
Didn't see the game last night, just the result and report on Saffron Gael, The Dubs at this level for last few years have been tough enough. Physically stronger and fitter it would seem by the reports.. Fair play to the players and management to actually attempt to get this going when everything around them was falling apart..

Would like to see Tosh, Karl and McFaul stay on and be better organised next year, that's providing we can play!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 22, 2020, 05:09:12 PM
5 Antrim hurlers with Covid, 1 self isolating & 1 backroom team positive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 22, 2020, 05:19:22 PM
How many of the 6 would be starters? It's a big blow but we have a strong panel hopefully lads can grind out a result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 22, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
Its a blow alright. Remember Westmeath beating us in Dunloy last summer? Jeez they were mountains of men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 22, 2020, 06:24:54 PM
Tbh whatever happens last Sunday was massive and really the key objective for us. Anything else from now on is a bonus. Westmeath on the last few years form are 5-10 points better than us so be interesting to see if we have improved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 23, 2020, 08:10:57 AM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on October 22, 2020, 05:19:22 PM
How many of the 6 would be starters? It's a big blow but we have a strong panel hopefully lads can grind out a result

all 5 would be.

Its a bit of a blow but sure it is what it is. its the times were living in so we have to just work with it now.

Hopefully everyone is ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 02:37:16 PM
Antrim are ripping it up against Westmeath! Clarke is playing a blinder!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2020, 02:44:11 PM
He has that ability on his day. Looking good so far.

If we win this it's a great win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 02:47:55 PM
Considering last years results against same team.. 35 to go and at this rate we'll hopefully win with a few to spare..

Nothing silly no sending offs and take your points!

McCann having a great game too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on October 25, 2020, 03:21:48 PM
Gleeson said in paper on Friday I think, that he was very happy with panel and he wasn't taking any of the U20's in (they played on Wed evening in Louth) and he was trusting his panel.

He said that lads who were waiting patiently, wanting a start, would have their chance and it would be up to them to produce the goods.

Great management by him I think, while at the same time developing the full panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 25, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
Great result. Hard work paying off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 03:53:01 PM
Tough game away to Carlow next but last game at home v Kerry will be the deciding game I feel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2020, 04:32:44 PM
That's two great wins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on October 25, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
What a performance, the lads totally destroyed Westmeath on every area on the pitch. This with 5 starters missing out. Great to see other lads come in and preform so well. It shows we have a quality panel and the work is being done by Gleeson and co. Tough picking a Starting 15 when everyone is back. What a problem for our management to have. Not to get ahead of ourselves also and be prepared for a huge game away to Carlow next week
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2020, 04:50:04 PM
Carlow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 26, 2020, 08:13:07 AM
Fantastic result, shows that depth in the panel also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 26, 2020, 10:17:49 AM
after what was a tough week for Antrim it was pleasing to get three wins at the weekend.

Our footballers won both the moral ground and on the pitch as well. Disappointing that we didn't get promoted but still its a good platform to build up again for next years league. There's some very good players coming through in Antrim esp when you see the likes of Pat Shivers from Cargin playing so its not all doom and gloom.

The camogiers made hard work of Carlow after being treated quite disgustingly by the Camogie Association who still to the moment haven't even offered an explanation as to why we had to move our game. For the first time in years we had probably the strongest group of camogiers on the panel for the championship and it bodes well if we can keep them all together.

Our hurlers just keep improving and its very pleasing to see. The hard work done by the management has paid off and much like our camogs we have strength now that we never had. To be missing Neil, Coby, the st Johns lads and still be able to notch up that sort of score against a team that put us in our box last year was the most pleasing aspect of the weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Bannerman on October 26, 2020, 05:21:54 PM
I was in Corrigan Park yesterday doing umpire for the referee Sean Stack. I would like to thank the St Johns Club and Antrim County Board for the courteous way we as officials were treated before and after the game.Ye are great Gaels.Thanks again
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2020, 10:05:27 PM
Glad you enjoyed it bannerman. You're welcome back as long as all the results are like that ;D

Watched the highlights on TG4 as I missed it yesterday. The quick passing to me was evident. Clarke's pass for the second goal was brilliant and mccloskey's to Clarke for the third goal was of the same ilk. Looked like a good performance all round. That's missing a lot of players too. Great to see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2020, 08:05:56 AM
it used to be that when we were missing players we struggled but now we dont. When you lose 5 players it can kill a team but now we have so much strength in depth that we can bring others on now who keep that same level as the others who aren't there.

Very impressed with our half back line of Walsh, Burke and Maskey. Three really good hurlers and also when you see the two wing half's, they are really big strong men as well. Ronan Molloy cant get a look in and he was our best half back this season so it shows how good they both have been.

Carlow will be another good test to see where we are at now and with that panel id be very confident we can get another result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on October 27, 2020, 08:12:53 AM
Quote from: Bannerman on October 26, 2020, 05:21:54 PM
I was in Corrigan Park yesterday doing umpire for the referee Sean Stack. I would like to thank the St Johns Club and Antrim County Board for the courteous way we as officials were treated before and after the game.Ye are great Gaels.Thanks again

Good to hear that you were well looked after Bannerman
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2020, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2020, 08:05:56 AM
it used to be that when we were missing players we struggled but now we dont. When you lose 5 players it can kill a team but now we have so much strength in depth that we can bring others on now who keep that same level as the others who aren't there.

Very impressed with our half back line of Walsh, Burke and Maskey. Three really good hurlers and also when you see the two wing half's, they are really big strong men as well. Ronan Molloy cant get a look in and he was our best half back this season so it shows how good they both have been.

Carlow will be another good test to see where we are at now and with that panel id be very confident we can get another result.

The two wing half's could actually fill out a bit more too, as big as they are we are still light when you look at a Tipp or Limerick half back line... so plenty room for improvement.. It's those areas that we can get that extra percentage on teams. The young Rossa lad made a start and took his goal very well just before coming off but feeling his way in the game, which is to be expected at this level, so really high hopes for him going forward.

So many positives and lots of room for improvements, there are also some lads that may make that team next year and improve it, Connolly and probably the player of the championship for me Michael Armstrong would strengthen that team even further...

Div 1 will focus a few players minds next season and the panel will be at bursting point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2020, 08:51:16 AM
The point McBrien scored for Rossa in the championship against Dunloy was as good as you would see anywhere. Hoping he comes on too. He is very young.

I keep reading we were missing 5 on sunday but was it not quite a few more? McNaughton, Cunning, Elliot, Nugent, Bradley then at least one Johnston? (Are there one or two on the panel?) Then there's McManus as well.

Yeah that half back line looks good. Mollloy I thought was arguably Dunloy's best performer so for him not to be on I thought the others must be good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on October 27, 2020, 08:53:59 AM
Agree about Connelly. Really good hurler and another player that would bring more quality to the County set up.

Good to see Clarkey firing the scores over. Another top forward and a natural scorer as was seen on Sunday. Have we ever had so many free takers on the panel at one time? - Neil McManus, Coby, James McNaughton and now Clarkey. Thats four fellas all wanting to hit the frees and all four really good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2020, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 27, 2020, 08:53:59 AM
Agree about Connelly. Really good hurler and another player that would bring more quality to the County set up.

Good to see Clarkey firing the scores over. Another top forward and a natural scorer as was seen on Sunday. Have we ever had so many free takers on the panel at one time? - Neil McManus, Coby, James McNaughton and now Clarkey. Thats four fellas all wanting to hit the frees and all four really good.

Great position to be in and they all contribute outside of the frees, long gone are the days we had players that were dead eye free takers and not overly great during play
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Post by: podge on October 27, 2020, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2020, 08:51:16 AM
The point McBrien scored for Rossa in the championship against Dunloy was as good as you would see anywhere. Hoping he comes on too. He is very young.

I keep reading we were missing 5 on sunday but was it not quite a few more? McNaughton, Cunning, Elliot, Nugent, Bradley then at least one Johnston? (Are there one or two on the panel?) Then there's McManus as well.

Yeah that half back line looks good. Mollloy I thought was arguably Dunloy's best performer so for him not to be on I thought the others must be good.

Elliot?

Great performances and results over last few weeks, credit where it's due. Here's hoping feet are firmly on the ground and they back it up next day out which will be a tough encounter away from home.  Are the covid cases allowed back for the weekend ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2020, 06:42:39 PM
Seaan was missing was he not?

I don't about Covid cases but would guess it's a no as it's 14 days and it won't have been 14 days.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 27, 2020, 07:03:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 27, 2020, 06:42:39 PM
Seaan was missing was he not?

I don't about Covid cases but would guess it's a no as it's 14 days and it won't have been 14 days.

10 days from first developing symptoms I thought in a positive case, for returning to work anyway ? 14 days for self isolating
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2020, 07:22:23 PM
Ah ok. Be nice if they were back though harsh on anyone from the weekend at the same time if they were dropped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
Not looking good in this one.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 04:38:13 PM
What a finish
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2020, 04:45:03 PM
Happy days- only following on Twitter and thought we were out of it.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 31, 2020, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 04:38:13 PM
What a finish
Great finish alright!
10 guilty of a bit of charging for the last goal?

Nail's game that, but up to the ref to call,  fair play to big Nugent he took it well!
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Post by: bannside on October 31, 2020, 05:41:35 PM
Who was no 10? Done well for that last goal....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 06:02:37 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2020, 05:41:35 PM
Who was no 10? Done well for that last goal....

Nial McKenna sarsfileds
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Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2020, 06:03:48 PM
Good footballer too bs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 31, 2020, 06:03:48 PM
Good footballer too bs.

Ah fuvk that Tommy  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2020, 09:08:41 PM
Yea hes well known like young Mc Kernan but hurling first unfortunately/fortunately depending on your preference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 01, 2020, 11:29:55 AM
They just never give up. Absolutely fantastic stuff
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2020, 08:36:07 AM
thought we were dead and gone at the end of that game on Saturday but what a finish to get it out of the fire at the end.

To be honest we were winning the game and comfortable but ended up losing all our shape and not winning any breaking ball from the puck outs which allowed them to get in front. We didn't play well for the most of the second half and did deserve to be behind i felt. Good changes made on the line that seen James McNaughton come on and fire a great goal and then big Donal to bag one as well.

Niall McKenna played brilliantly the whole game. A really good performance from him. Clarkey ended up with 2-07 and probably could of scored far more on a better day had the wind not of been a gale.

Overall its a point gained when it should of been lost so all in its a bonus.

If we beat Kerry at home is that us in the final?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2020, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 02, 2020, 08:36:07 AM
thought we were dead and gone at the end of that game on Saturday but what a finish to get it out of the fire at the end.

To be honest we were winning the game and comfortable but ended up losing all our shape and not winning any breaking ball from the puck outs which allowed them to get in front. We didn't play well for the most of the second half and did deserve to be behind i felt. Good changes made on the line that seen James McNaughton come on and fire a great goal and then big Donal to bag one as well.

Niall McKenna played brilliantly the whole game. A really good performance from him. Clarkey ended up with 2-07 and probably could of scored far more on a better day had the wind not of been a gale.

Overall its a point gained when it should of been lost so all in its a bonus.

If we beat Kerry at home is that us in the final?

If we beat Kerry or Meath I suspect we are in the final.

The Carlow Westmeath game will put Westmeath out, though I'd say with having lost two they are gone.

Kerry big win over Westmeath have something to play for against us so that'll be tough game.

The level of competition fits right. It's being able to lift that further next year is the difference
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2020, 10:04:08 AM
if anything its proved that after a year or so learning we have lifted ourselves now to this level and over it. As you say MR2 its the lifting again for next season and trying to stay in Div 1b. If we can do that and keep improving each year we will be able to build into a stronger county team.

We have seen some tough results dealt at JMcD cup matches like Kerry at home in Cdall, Westmeath in Dunloy and other matches v Laois where we have been well schooled by those teams. But, to the players and managements credit they have took those results and learned from them and improved.

I felt getting someone like Johnny Campbell in there as part of the set up was a real good move. he's a good coach and was a top defender so he's adding more quality to the set up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 02, 2020, 10:50:34 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on November 02, 2020, 10:04:08 AM
if anything its proved that after a year or so learning we have lifted ourselves now to this level and over it. As you say MR2 its the lifting again for next season and trying to stay in Div 1b. If we can do that and keep improving each year we will be able to build into a stronger county team.

We have seen some tough results dealt at JMcD cup matches like Kerry at home in Cdall, Westmeath in Dunloy and other matches v Laois where we have been well schooled by those teams. But, to the players and managements credit they have took those results and learned from them and improved.

I felt getting someone like Johnny Campbell in there as part of the set up was a real good move. he's a good coach and was a top defender so he's adding more quality to the set up.

Not doubting this but it was the defending which came under the biggest pressure yesterday in that period of the game where we folded. We have serious serious forwards, but the defence is the bit that would worry me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 02, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
I don't like to criticise the team when we are doing well but the full back line was really stretched at times there in the second half. They werent alone as the half back line was the same as well.

Again its more experience under the belt and they will continue to work on these things.

Kerry will come to us wanting to get a big result so we need to be very careful with this game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 02, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
We were stretched in there as balls from midfield and half back line were coming into the ff line, any inter county forward that's played Div1 will want a ball out wide then turn his man.

They tagged on the points and we missed a few opportunities to keep the scoreboard ticking over
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Carlovia on November 03, 2020, 03:36:54 PM
Thought I'd drop in to your forum to congratulate Antrim on a
great game Saturday.

Antrim were very strong in the first half and barring wides you
could have been out of sight.

We were very good in the second half and thought we had it
after our second goal but fair play to your lads for the finish.

Draw was a fair result and maybe we will meet again next month if
we can both get over Kerry which is no easy matter.

Great to see Antrim playing so well again and hope that both
teams can get up to the top table in the future.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 07:22:23 PM
Laois have taken it to a new level today with that match v Clare...

That's going to be the level we need to take it to, but it's not been an overnight thing for Laois, they've been on the up for a while now.

Very unlucky against Clare could have at the very least pushed that to a draw!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 07, 2020, 09:12:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2020, 07:22:23 PM
Laois have taken it to a new level today with that match v Clare...

That's going to be the level we need to take it to, but it's not been an overnight thing for Laois, they've been on the up for a while now.

Very unlucky against Clare could have at the very least pushed that to a draw!

Correct.  Imagine if everybody fully committed to Brennan's team. They battled well and could have got it to extra-time.

Probably gave away too many silly frees in first half.

Tony Kelly is some operator!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 05:53:14 PM
I see Carlow only beat Meath by a point yesterday. We still need to be really on our toes for them and Kerry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2020, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2020, 05:53:14 PM
I see Carlow only beat Meath by a point yesterday. We still need to be really on our toes for them and Kerry.

Yeah was going to mention it earlier Meath stayed in touch for most of the game and could have won it. Win next game and that's that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2020, 01:59:13 PM
What an impressive start by Antrim...

Our ability to find the extra man for a goal...

We've managed to improve with each game.

12 points up against a strong breeze
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Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on November 14, 2020, 02:16:42 PM
Fantastic stuff again today so far. Really showing some good hurling. keep it going!
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Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
Yes. Probably got closer than we'd have liked however some very good play there. McCann had a blinder and really liked what I saw from Molloy too. Very mature performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2020, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 14, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
Yes. Probably got closer than we'd have liked however some very good play there. McCann had a blinder and really liked what I saw from Molloy too. Very mature performance.

Closer yes but I was standing in corrigan watching us get brushed aside by this Kerry team a couple of years ago. Made great strides so far. Conway for Kerry is a cracker
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Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2020, 03:44:00 PM
Player of the fitzgibbon two years running. Some big units on that Kerry team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on November 14, 2020, 05:50:57 PM
Well done to Antrim today. That would be Antrim in the final wouldn't it? In fairness to Gleeson I wouldn't have been a fan of the appointment due to off field issues but he has done an excellent job. Are Antrim unbeaten all year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2020, 06:23:40 PM
I am trying to think of a permutation where we wouldn't be. If Kerry Carlow draw and Meath beat Antrim then we would have dropped three to both of their two. I *think* that's a possibility so mathematically I don't think it is yet guaranteed.

I think Carlow will beat Kerry and would hope we beat Meath.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2020, 07:10:27 PM
Actually that's wrong... We can drop maximum three. If Kerry win and we lose Kerry have dropped two then Carlow three so I guess score difference there in that permutation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
Will be good to get a crack at Clare or Tipp to see how far we've come.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
Will be good to get a crack at Clare or Tipp to see how far we've come.

it would but I suspect at least 15 point gap, serious progress being made though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
Will be good to get a crack at Clare or Tipp to see how far we've come.

it would but I suspect at least 15 point gap, serious progress being made though

I'd be happy with facing Laois and getting close to them, then progress from that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 09:05:55 PM
Carlow might have a thing or two to say just yet.
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Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
Two teams go through to AI. Think it will be Antrim and Carlow/Kerry.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
Will be good to get a crack at Clare or Tipp to see how far we've come.

it would but I suspect at least 15 point gap, serious progress being made though

Agreed - probably closer to Clare than we'd get to Tipp. None of them will want to travel to Belfast.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
I'm happy for a year in Div 1b
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Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
I'm happy for a year in Div 1b

1b will certainly do us more good than a one off game. Still, would be lovely to give it our all v Clare at Corrigan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
Two teams go through to AI. Think it will be Antrim and Carlow/Kerry.

Ah I didn't realise that. Thanks. I expect Carlow. The McDonagh final is before the Liam McCarthy on all Ireland day this year. It would, well should now, be fantastic to see us playing in croke on ai day again.

Play Clare at corrigan and take tony Kelly out early lol.

[edit] I had a look. McDonagh teams don't get into the Liam McCarthy this year. According to this anyway...

http://www.tippsupportersclub.com/december-all-ireland-final-dates-confirmed-as-gaa-unveil-2020-championship-plan/ (http://www.tippsupportersclub.com/december-all-ireland-final-dates-confirmed-as-gaa-unveil-2020-championship-plan/)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
Two teams go through to AI. Think it will be Antrim and Carlow/Kerry.

Ah I didn't realise that. Thanks. I expect Carlow. The McDonagh final is before the Liam McCarthy on all Ireland day this year. It would, well should now, be fantastic to see us playing in croke on ai day again.

Play Clare at corrigan and take tony Kelly out early lol.

Getting tickets would be nice!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2020, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2020, 09:05:03 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 15, 2020, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 08:51:02 PM
Will be good to get a crack at Clare or Tipp to see how far we've come.

it would but I suspect at least 15 point gap, serious progress being made though

I'd be happy with facing Laois and getting close to them, then progress from that

de réir a chéile a thogtar an chaisleáin. Id agree with you there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 09:11:51 PM
Two teams go through to AI. Think it will be Antrim and Carlow/Kerry.

Ah I didn't realise that. Thanks. I expect Carlow. The McDonagh final is before the Liam McCarthy on all Ireland day this year. It would, well should now, be fantastic to see us playing in croke on ai day again.

Play Clare at corrigan and take tony Kelly out early lol.

[edit] I had a look. McDonagh teams don't get into the Liam McCarthy this year. According to this anyway...

http://www.tippsupportersclub.com/december-all-ireland-final-dates-confirmed-as-gaa-unveil-2020-championship-plan/ (http://www.tippsupportersclub.com/december-all-ireland-final-dates-confirmed-as-gaa-unveil-2020-championship-plan/)

Unless they've changed the original plan due to COVID19

Joe McDonagh Cup proper

Initially each of the five teams play the other four teams in a round of single round-robin matches. The top two teams qualify for the Joe McDonagh Cup final, held at Croke Park.

All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship

The top two teams after the round robin games, in addition to qualification for the Cup final, also enter the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship proper. There they play the third-placed teams in the Leinster and Munster championships in the two All-Ireland preliminary quarter finals with the Joe McDonagh Cup teams having home advantage.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 10:05:51 PM
I think they did. The McDonagh final is on ai day so it won't be over before the all Ireland.  It's usually over a good bit before it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 15, 2020, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 15, 2020, 10:05:51 PM
I think they did. The McDonagh final is on ai day so it won't be over before the all Ireland.  It's usually over a good bit before it.

Definitely makes sense. Poor Antrim hurlers lose out this year. As was said earlier - getting a crack at 1B next season is more productive. It's the big prize.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on November 20, 2020, 10:37:42 AM
Is there ever any chance of a north Antrim team being started up again? it would be good for hurlers at junior/intermediate level to compete at senior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 20, 2020, 10:37:42 AM
Is there ever any chance of a north Antrim team being started up again? it would be good for hurlers at junior/intermediate level to compete at senior?

Belfast has tried this a few times over the years, the problem is training and getting some unity between the clubs.

Timing would be difficult, but it works in other counties, like Kerry for instance, where the south/east/west Kerry teams compete with the senior teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2020, 12:57:15 PM
It didn't seem a hit at all but I really like the idea of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2020, 04:40:06 PM
Kerry beat Carlow. Didn't think that would happen. We are through to the final unless we get hammered.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2020, 07:16:24 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 20, 2020, 10:37:42 AM
Is there ever any chance of a north Antrim team being started up again? it would be good for hurlers at junior/intermediate level to compete at senior?
That was tried several years ago and the logistics proved to be difficult. However, I think that a South Antrim divisional team in the SHC would be a good idea. The travelling wouldn't be an issue and there are many good hurlers in Belfast who aren't all playing for senior clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 01:24:01 PM
Some of these Meath boys are huge. Tough game this.

Bradley and Clarke look sharp so far but we need to stop getting blocked so much. Not getting as much space as we have in previous matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
It would be nice if the ref would give Conor McCann a free at some point... Bradley on fire here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on November 28, 2020, 01:54:20 PM
Have to say the commentarys as entertaining as the match😂 Ben Dover and Mo Lester getting a shout out and all lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2020, 02:10:32 PM
Sandy Row Antrim supporters club
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 02:30:44 PM
Matty Donnelly is a great distributor of the ball. Always finds a good pass when he gets the ball.

Another good win here. Big scoring.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on November 28, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
Commentary was golden, jeez from Bangkok to sandy row we have some support. He was getting scunnered near the end in fairness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 28, 2020, 05:35:02 PM
Bradley's sequence of points towards the end of the first half.....class. Its a real treat to see an Antrim team playing consistently well, the squad seems to have genuine depth about it. I hope to God we get to play a proper Div 1 next season, see how we get on against Wexford, Clare, Dublin and whoever. Can this squad make an impact in the Liam McCarthy?

There does seem to be a 'professional' environment about them. Love to see it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on November 28, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
Is there anybody else to come back into the Antrim squad or are they currently at full strength?

Hard for teams to bridge that gap in 1B on a consistent basis, year after year.  That group of Antrim, Carlow and Kerry etc. is very competitive - a great competition in itself.

But it would be good to see the 'big' teams in Ballycastle etc. next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 06:41:43 PM
McManus not listed today. Conal cunning too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 08:10:29 PM
Keelan mollloy not playing today either who's a serious operator too. Dunno how I missed him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on November 28, 2020, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2020, 02:30:44 PM
Matty Donnelly is a great distributor of the ball. Always finds a good pass when he gets the ball.

Another good win here. Big scoring.

Matty had a solid game today. He's a huge physical player ideal for full back and great under a dropping ball. However though I thought in the Carlow game he was caught for speed on a couple of occasions. It seems management have addressed this problem and gave him more protection today.

All in all their hurling extremely well and you can see their so well coached. Support play has really improved plus one up two down under high balls. If there's one thing they could work on is their first touch. You get what you work for and they deserve their day in Croke Park. Great move by the GAA to play it before the AllI reland.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 09, 2020, 05:56:12 PM
Good luck to the hurlers on Sunday. They've been superb all year, restoring a bit of pride into the county. Deserving of every bit of success this year. I think they'll do it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 09, 2020, 07:48:12 PM
Good luck lads
Very proud of you all played this year
Division 1 hurling now and hopefully a good result on Sunday
Can't wait
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 10, 2020, 10:29:55 AM
Really looking forward to this one. If they don't freeze in CP setting they should be just fine, always thought we were a level above Kerry this season. Its fantastic to see it. Game live on RTE
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 10, 2020, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on December 10, 2020, 10:29:55 AM
Really looking forward to this one. If they don't freeze in CP setting they should be just fine, always thought we were a level above Kerry this season. Its fantastic to see it. Game live on RTE

I think now we have the forwards to thrive in CP. Maybe in other year we didnt have that pace and power that we seem to have now.

Going to be an intriguing game, for one I dont expect to see the same game that we did earlier in the rounds.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2020, 11:30:22 AM
The team will be interesting.

What does he do with McManus? (I hope not as the forwards are stable.

Does Keelan Molloy come back in? (I hope so as he was superb last time against Kerry though would feel for McBrien too)

Will Joe Maskey be back in the half back line? (I would say he maybe deserves it)

Who is going to mark Conway? I would assume Rooney?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2020, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 10, 2020, 11:30:22 AM
The team will be interesting.

What does he do with McManus? (I hope not as the forwards are stable.

Does Keelan Molloy come back in? (I hope so as he was superb last time against Kerry though would feel for McBrien too)

Will Joe Maskey be back in the half back line? (I would say he maybe deserves it)

Who is going to mark Conway? I would assume Rooney?

This is the winning of the game.

Whoever picks him up and stems (as you won't completely stop him) his play will be the winning of the game..

Changing a winning team might not be the best thing to do, NMcM would be a massive player to introduce and had he been fit for all the games then I'd have no problem with him starting.

Nothing worse for a manager when one of your best players becomes available and you have been getting great results up to that point!

Either way Kerry will be looking to stop Clarke and co up front, as the goals are what has brought us to Croke Park, a f**king shame we can't get there to watch it, hopefully next year we will have the games available to watch in the league.

Confidence is flowing in the team, but Kerry ain't pushovers, if I wasn't an Antrim man I'd take the value that the bookies are offering on Kerry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2020, 11:49:56 AM
It will be a tough game. I'd be a bit nervous about it but tbh as an antrim fan who's seen a lot over the years that's definitely par for the course I think lol.

There are quite a few forwards going well so fortunately it doesn't seem to be a case of stop one. Yeah McManus as sub for me. Molloy to me should start. His game against Kerry was tbh one of the best I have seen from an antrim player in years. Maskey a better man for the bigger kerry forwards too.

McManus, Nugent, Johnston three great options for the bench from forwards. I would be a bit wary of Donnelly for pace on a big pitch but hopefully good enough cover etc there.

I do think it would be a mistake to start McManus but he definitely should be getting game time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on December 10, 2020, 01:54:08 PM
What a great problem, finding it hard to fit in great players because the first team has been playing so well.

Really looking forward to this now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 10, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
Can anybody get a link for the 89 song?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 10, 2020, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 10, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
Can anybody get a link for the 89 song?

We have seen great hurlers come and go in Croke Park through the years
And in All Ireland Finals other countries had the cheers
We hoped some day it would be us but all seemed far away
But now at last the time has come it is All Ireland day

We are the Saffron county and we're going to make our mark
We'll take the Liam McCarthy cup to Antrim from Croke Park
There will be celebrations in the city and the Glen
And around the county Antrim we can all sing once again

We hope that what we're doing will inspire younger men
And ensure that in the future it can all be done again
To keep the Caman swinging n the city and the glen
And around the county Antrim we can all sing once again

We are the Saffron county and we're going to make our mark
We'll take the Liam McCarthy cup to Antrim from Croke Park
There will be celebrations in the city and the Glen
And around the county Antrim we can all sing once again

........I can never remember the middle verse but hope that helps

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 10, 2020, 10:42:43 PM
Pity there'll be no supporters at this game.

Great to be in Croke Park.  Big opportunity.

Keery are progressing well in recent years.

Hard to belive the championship is nearly over.  Great to have so many games on tv over this past couple of months.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 11, 2020, 02:05:46 PM
Its been a good period for Antrim hurling this year no matter what happens on Sunday. We would all love to be there to support our team but it is what it is now and we will have to make do with shouting at the tv on sunday!

Antrim is in a great place going forth into 2021 and hopefully on Sunday we have the Joe McDonagh Cup alongside the D2 trophy to take with us.

Fantastic problem we have atm with who to select as there is so many good players on the panel.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 11, 2020, 09:49:48 PM
Team named... Elliot, Molloy and Mackey back in. Glad they have stuck with what has worked. (No harm to anyone).

Really looking forward, though maybe a bit nervous about it too, to this.

[edit] maskey that should read.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 11, 2020, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 11, 2020, 09:49:48 PM
Team named... Elliot, Molloy and Mackey back in. Glad they have stuck with what has worked. (No harm to anyone).

Really looking forward, though maybe a bit nervous about it too, to this.

Good strong players to come in also.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on December 12, 2020, 11:02:00 PM
All the best to the team tomorrow. Played really well this year and all credit to Darren Gleason and the players. Antrim have had their best year in a very long time and i hope tomorrow they can finish it off on a high. Shame we cant get down to watch it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 13, 2020, 11:00:11 AM
Online Mass done, Fire on, Fry in the pan and stout cooling in the Fridge.

Up the saffs 👌👌
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 13, 2020, 01:45:08 PM
Very poor first half performance from Antrim's forward unit. Niall McKenna needs to bring other players into play and Dan McCloskey will be lucky to start the second half. Eoghan and Keelan haven't had a huge impact at midfield. Surely we can play better in the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 13, 2020, 01:46:46 PM
Time for McManus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2020, 01:47:09 PM
What we have been doing so well all year we have stopped doing. Forwards need a shake up.

I think we are better than Kerry but will struggle to win playing like that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 13, 2020, 01:52:17 PM
50/50 game now.

Both teams nervous enough looking.

Unlucky by Donnelly - blinded by the sun. He was out in front. No blame there.

Forwards need to look for a recycle instewd of shooting from bad positions.

All to play for!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 13, 2020, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 13, 2020, 01:52:17 PM
50/50 game now.

Both teams nervous enough looking.

Unlucky by Donnelly - blinded by the sun. He was out in front. No blame there.

Forwards need to look for a recycle instewd of shooting from bad positions.

All to play for!
Goal a sucker punch that certainly put a the wind in their sails. Antrim very confident start but have dropped a gear and have let Kerry back in the game. Kerry 8-9 wides? Dare say we'll see Mc Manus now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 13, 2020, 02:45:19 PM
Well done Antrim! Seemed to make hard work of good work but got their in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on December 13, 2020, 02:49:02 PM
Well done Antrim. Great news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2020, 02:53:47 PM
Well today's wasn't pretty and not what we've been used to, but who gives a f**k! That was the worst we played all year and maybe the occasion got to both teams ...

Kerry played extra man in defence, that was always going to keep them close but lacked the possibility of winning, we just had enough to win the game, fancied us to win by two..

So the win is all it takes at this point.

Liam McCarthy will at least be there and a baptism of fire in the div1b

Kerry in first half played their main player in defence! Or very deep.

The ball for the one that might have went over the line in one angle looked Over!!!

Anyways hopefully we'll have a few more additions next year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 13, 2020, 03:00:33 PM
Congratulations lads. A lot to work on which means plenty of room for improvement. But at the end of the day it was all about winning.They more than deserved it for the effort they put in this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2020, 04:10:14 PM
It was like a game where two teams were over familiar. We were more than two points better than Kerry I thought but just couldn't get away. Honestly thought our half forwards were getting fouled all the time and had that been nipped in the bud by the ref we could have caused them real bother there.

Great to see the depth we have that different players starring each day. Donnelly was great, Walsh in first half, cunning when he came on and obviously McManus. Wasn't pretty but a win is a win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2020, 06:11:58 PM
You know the setup is getting serious when all the players and management team are in matching blazers ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 13, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Yeah it is, think next year will be a stark reminder of that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2020, 06:44:56 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

I would have said that on anticipation of the senior game, but quality wise both game's shoulda been better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on December 13, 2020, 06:50:01 PM
Who got motm, I thought McKenna (no 10) was good and Campbell too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Mammoth gap...if we don't improve our conditioning we'll lose 8 out of 10 rucks and be mauled by 20 plus points per game

The conditioning should be the easy part, it's just lifting metal around and pushing the plate away....no excuse to carry boys with guts or wee boys with no muscle. Limericks are well put together 1 to 35....we need the same as a bare minimum pre requisite

Defo nervy today but great to win and continue the upward trajectory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Mammoth gap...if we don't improve our conditioning we'll lose 8 out of 10 rucks and be mauled by 20 plus points per game

The conditioning should be the easy part, it's just lifting metal around and pushing the plate away....no excuse to carry boys with guts or wee boys with no muscle. Limerick's players are well put together 1 to 35....we need the same as a bare minimum pre requisite

Defo nervy today but great to win and continue the upward trajectory
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: tintin25 on December 13, 2020, 07:59:56 PM
Glad to see Antrim do well and great to have an Ulster team competing at the top again.  As a poster alluded to previously, I couldn't help but notice the difference in conditioning between the players in both games.  Granted, the big lads will carry abit of timber, but the Limerick and Waterford lads were far leaner.  Some of the Antrim lads doing too many weights almost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 13, 2020, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Mammoth gap...if we don't improve our conditioning we'll lose 8 out of 10 rucks and be mauled by 20 plus points per game

The conditioning should be the easy part, it's just lifting metal around and pushing the plate away....no excuse to carry boys with guts or wee boys with no muscle. Limericks are well put together 1 to 35....we need the same as a bare minimum pre requisite

Defo nervy today but great to win and continue the upward trajectory

True they should get stuck into the S & C programmes next week. From that until NHL starts, 2 a week and 2 nights on the pitch. They need to be well bulked up but not losing that speed or sharpness. 

With that incentive ahead, there should be no bother in getting at it again.

Is there anybody that should be on that panel?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2020, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 13, 2020, 08:00:17 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Mammoth gap...if we don't improve our conditioning we'll lose 8 out of 10 rucks and be mauled by 20 plus points per game

The conditioning should be the easy part, it's just lifting metal around and pushing the plate away....no excuse to carry boys with guts or wee boys with no muscle. Limericks are well put together 1 to 35....we need the same as a bare minimum pre requisite

Defo nervy today but great to win and continue the upward trajectory

True they should get stuck into the S & C programmes next week. From that until NHL starts, 2 a week and 2 nights on the pitch. They need to be well bulked up but not losing that speed or sharpness. 

With that incentive ahead, there should be no bother in getting at it again.

Is there anybody that should be on that panel?

Yes, without doubt, Beatty Armstrong Rossa, for starters

There's other lads but we've players that'll definitely improve that panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2020, 08:07:37 PM
We need to get above Laois's level, the first challenge game next year needs to be Laois, then Wexford and Dublin.

Familiarise ourselves with these teams as early as you can

We are physically a year or two away from meeting 1b standard, 4 plus years from 1a if we continue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 13, 2020, 08:14:11 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 13, 2020, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: Gold on December 13, 2020, 07:53:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2020, 06:28:39 PM
Only seen last 20 mins, brilliant win , but gap to Liam McCarthy looks massive ,

Mammoth gap...if we don't improve our conditioning we'll lose 8 out of 10 rucks and be mauled by 20 plus points per game

The conditioning should be the easy part, it's just lifting metal around and pushing the plate away....no excuse to carry boys with guts or wee boys with no muscle. Limericks are well put together 1 to 35....we need the same as a bare minimum pre requisite

Defo nervy today but great to win and continue the upward trajectory
Is it as easy as you say? Does it not take years of physical conditioning to get to the levels we are seeing in the top counties? Indeed, I'd have thought that the ship has sailed for a lot of our players with regards to getting into the condition required for the top tier. That said, I know next to nothing about it - it was a general assumption on my part.

I would say you are right to a degree, it's widely accepted Limerick have been working on this S&C since development squads. You won't see much of a difference in Antrim players in the next year or so, one or two maybe trim a bit of timber but a long term approach where you are basically altering the physique of players will take a few years and let's face it we have been talking about it for years so there is no promise it will even happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
Strength and conditioning is a lot more than just lifting some weights in a gym. There's a massive amount to it and that is why there is so big a gap between top teams and the rest in football and hurling.

While at times we looked lighter today I think we have come on massively s&c wise. Kerry just happen to have some very big men. Gary o'kane was saying in an interview during the week how Westmeath and Carlow really upped it in this area. We have a long way to go but to me have improved massively in this area. Teams were bullying us last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: sid waddell on December 13, 2020, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on December 13, 2020, 07:59:56 PM
Glad to see Antrim do well and great to have an Ulster team competing at the top again.  As a poster alluded to previously, I couldn't help but notice the difference in conditioning between the players in both games.  Granted, the big lads will carry abit of timber, but the Limerick and Waterford lads were far leaner.  Some of the Antrim lads doing too many weights almost.
There's a big difference in Seamus Flanagan compared to 2018

He looks a lot leaner and quicker, two years ago he almost looked like a traditional beefy full forward a la Jimmy Holohan or Pat Heffernan

Aaron Gillane is another lad who without serious S and C might be a Gary Laffan type

Gearoid Hegarty on the other hand is somebody who without serious S and C might look and play like Mark Foley of Cork, or be extremely awkward like Aisake O'hAilpin or a pure target man full forward like Brian Begley

Waterford were noticeably behind Limerick in terms of S and C, particularly their newer players

Limerick aren't just ahead of Waterford in this regard, they're well ahead of Tipp, who haven't been able to deal with them at all since 2018, and ahead of everybody else too

Something a former Leinster rugby player once said stuck with with me, I think it was Denis Hickie, he said that about half the fellas involved with Leinster struggled to keep the weight off and the other half struggled to keep the weight on

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 13, 2020, 10:26:08 PM
It'll be a huge stepup for Antrim.

That group of Joe Mc Donagh teams: Antrim, Kerry, Carlow and Westmeath etc. are all so close in terms of ability etc. but probably not just good enough to be regulars in Div. 1B or the Leinster championship.  Hard to bridge that level.

Antrim's turn now so we'll see what happens. Gleeson and O'Kane etc. have done a great job with them and next year willbe interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 14, 2020, 07:27:59 AM
Few bellies on show alright , but other big difference was the aimless clearing of ball from defence from both Antrim and Kerry. A lot of "get it out of there" type of stuff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 08:04:10 AM
That was a wee bit frustrating because we haven't been doing that all year but a win is a win. I think Kerry were onto our shorter game a bit yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 08:22:45 AM
While that wasn't right I do think that was very different and can see no way anything like that would happen here.(Well put simply not going to happen)

Agreed on the short passing thing. If you're going long go long.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 08:27:28 AM
On another note good to see Conor Cunning making a comeback to the antrim squad at 42 ;D It's a pity we couldn't get Conal in as he looks handy! (Kieran Close transferred allegiance from football to hurling for a bit too)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 14, 2020, 09:15:10 AM
Delighted for the squad and management.

Pity that the boys didn't get to showcase the way they had played all year in the final, but as they say finals are for winning and that's what they did. I think they are a lot better than that showing in general.

Massive gap to the next level but at least they are heading in the right direction and there is genuine positivity around the squad. Unless we are going to pull out some serious defenders over the winter I think we will struggle, but we need to learn fast.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 14, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
really happy for all the panel and the management as they have worked really hard this season and have got the rewards for that effort.

Massive step up in quality next year but its what we wanted. We can never improve if we stay at the same level. THere will be some bad defeats but that how we will continue to keep improving and it will also bring the standard of hurling on in the county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on December 14, 2020, 09:19:22 AM
The Limerick players had a different shape to them. Less bulk, much leaner than before, looks like they have put a lot more emphasis on speed and their running game as opposed to brute strength. Apart from remarkable skill levels, the pace they play at is frightening. Lighter weights, more repetitions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 09:27:37 AM
You'd be more into endurance category there I'd have thought. More functional strength and less just lifting a bar I imagine. Plyometrics etc etc. Limerick and Dublin are doing something S&C wise that no other teams are doing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 14, 2020, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2020, 09:19:22 AM
The Limerick players had a different shape to them. Less bulk, much leaner than before, looks like they have put a lot more emphasis on speed and their running game as opposed to brute strength. Apart from remarkable skill levels, the pace they play at is frightening. Lighter weights, more repetitions?

Antony Daly does a podcast and he was involved with the Limerick Development squads and he mentioned that a lot of these lads would have been on S&C programs since the age of 15. Early days is more so about technique with their own body weight and gradually increased as they got older/grow to increase the loads for power, explosive power he talked about.

That won't happen for Antrim overnight or any other team for that matter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
It's plyometrics I imagine. Sprinter stuff to a point(except they bulk a lot). As you say technique a big thing.

Limerick have a pile of money invested into them too. These things don't happen overnight. Them boys have been at it from a young age.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 14, 2020, 09:44:02 AM
S & C aside the top teams ability to score from anywhere or any angle without even as much as a glance. Seamus Flanagan looked like he was serving in tennis the way he just flicks his wrist and the ball sails over rthe bar (almost from the sideline each time). Very one side final but a joy to watch. Antrim certainly up against it but is where you want to be (for a while anyway!).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 14, 2020, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
It's plyometrics I imagine. Sprinter stuff to a point(except they bulk a lot). As you say technique a big thing.

Limerick have a pile of money invested into them too. These things don't happen overnight. Them boys have been at it from a young age.

Yes, plyometrics, SAQ and all that. Pure bursts of speed and power. Helps if you've 6'6" Kyle Hayes and 6'5" Geroid Hegarty standing below puckouts and both well able to sprint and hurl with anyone out there.
Their score taking is unreal and whilst there were fine scores from the touchlines from Guillane and Flanagan, most were worked to lads in areas where the chances of hitting wides are low. It's all about the right options for them.

They're a young team too, Kiely and Kinnerk have done some job with them. Only need to keep up the work ethic to keeping piling on the AI's and Munsters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2020, 10:15:27 AM
So has the format for next season, club and county, been agreed?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 14, 2020, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2020, 09:19:22 AM
The Limerick players had a different shape to them. Less bulk, much leaner than before, looks like they have put a lot more emphasis on speed and their running game as opposed to brute strength. Apart from remarkable skill levels, the pace they play at is frightening. Lighter weights, more repetitions?


Nobody gonna mention the height of them here
Hayes is nearly 6-6 and heagerty is bigger
Take most people two strides to match their one
Their smallest player Cain Lynch played well but lost his battle with Barron yesterday
Even those two wing forwards with beautiful wrist and crazy accuracy wouldn't get those shots away as handy if they where only 5-10
Fantastic team all the same and a bit depressing from an Antrim perspective, we made huge strides this year but the bar being raised just keeps the deficit roughly the same.
Another note, that is one of the best full back lines I ever seen, Daithi Burke is the only player outside limerick that could get a start in it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on December 14, 2020, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 14, 2020, 08:27:28 AM
On another note good to see Conor Cunning making a comeback to the antrim squad at 42 ;D It's a pity we couldn't get Conal in as he looks handy! (Kieran Close transferred allegiance from football to hurling for a bit too)
And don't forget Conor McManus who received the trophy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 15, 2020, 12:47:11 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 14, 2020, 09:19:22 AM
The Limerick players had a different shape to them. Less bulk, much leaner than before, looks like they have put a lot more emphasis on speed and their running game as opposed to brute strength. Apart from remarkable skill levels, the pace they play at is frightening. Lighter weights, more repetitions?

I was always interested in the elite athletes and their life style. Someone asked Connor McGregor once what was the toughest part of his training plan and he said it was his diet. Very hard to live on nutri bullets and protein shakes. But it is essential part of you're training plan if you want to compete at the top level. With the physicality being taken out of the game with every shoulder seeming  to be a free id say the emphasis is mostly on stick work agility and speed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2020, 01:24:38 PM
Highlight of the year for anyone?

Its been a really good year for hurling in the county and in the club scene this year, one of the best ive seen in a long time with lots of positives.

Stealing a draw up in Rossa in the group stages was probably one of the best moments for me personally. We were absolutely dead and buried to the wind and somehow we dug dead and scored a goal and a point to snatch a draw - a draw that meant we still had a chance to decide our own future. it was absolutely hard on Rossa who deserved to win the game but its why were ended up champions this year.

St Johns v Loughgiel was a joy to watch as a neutral as it went into extra time and big Donal with one arm hurling out of his skin. Even Ballycastle this year were good to watch and will no doubt take a lot from this year to build on for next year again.

County wise, well what more can you say. Top management, top team, great set up outside of that in the Saffron business forum and Gaelfast well on its feet now and working away. Division 1 hurling and playing in the Liam McCarthy Cup - fantastic to be able to type that!

Please keep this going!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
A brilliant year and this year certainly at club level served up some cracking games, I've yet to see 2 semi finals in recent years go right down to the wire.

County level we hit the ground running and there are a few factors involved in that, the management team were able to get nearly everyone on board, I say that as there are some other players that would certainly add to that set up, either as starters or great subs to bring on.

Secondly, the season the way it panned out allowed all our available fit players time to get ready for county, if it works, lets do it again, though for the dual clubs,  we need a bit of time to adapt or space between championship games, Rossa were out on their feet going into the final stages of championship in both codes.

Keen to get the Ulster club back also, that's when you'll know your are ready, as we haven't been competing with S'Neil recently and we really need to lift the club game to match theirs, they are the standard that needs reached.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 17, 2020, 03:53:34 PM
id agree about the dual clubs there MR2 as as much as it was great that we made another intermediate final this year the players also had one eye on the county hurling the final week.

I do think the footballers have a great appointment in Enda McGinley as manager and ive heard lots of good sounds so far with lads really wanting to buy into it already.

The camogiers also reaching an all ireland final has raised the profile of the game again for the young girls in the county to have something to aspire to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 17, 2020, 06:10:09 PM
Highlights

Wining another county championship when so many other clubs have raised their game. Rossa take a bow.

County team breaking back into div1 and Leinster championship

The collective initiative to stream all club and county matches when attendance was a non runner, a real pick me up in these strange teams. The commentary V Meath being the highlight.

Tony kelly prior to getting hurt v Waterford, what a majestic talent.

Sean Finn (thou shalt not pass)

Waterford second half v Kilkenny




Objectives for next year

Seeing the pitches constantly active with training and underage blitzes, tournaments and matches.

Dunloy to win county title and get a crack at ulster again.

Our county players to take a big scalp and Donal Og has to eat his words

That's it

Merry Christmas and happy new year to my fellow Antrim Gaels.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pub Bore on December 19, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/antrim-gaa-meet-the-players-event-is-called-off-39879339.html

Who thought this was a good idea?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2020, 01:57:55 PM
Not a great idea, though shopping centres are open and things were staggered.

Better not bringing bad attention, plenty time when it's safe to applaud the boys for a great year..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 19, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on December 19, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/antrim-gaa-meet-the-players-event-is-called-off-39879339.html

Who thought this was a good idea?

This is an example of what I'm talking about earlier - a bit of common sense.

Personal responsibilty is missing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2020, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

Not sure, were they allowed to open with that last break in restrictions?

I know our club were handing out selection boxes, not sure if there was any sessions tbh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: City Dweller on December 21, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
https://ulster.gaa.ie/2020/12/update-on-guidance-to-counties-and-clubs-in-the-six-counties/

– Outdoor training (exercise) in groups of up to a maximum of 15;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 21, 2020, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Soup taker surely
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Don't be a dick all the time, you know fine well that the Ulster Council had 2 different sets of instructions depending on govt policy either side of border
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 21, 2020, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Soup taker surely

Mínigh dom le do thoil cén dóigh a smaoiníonn tú sin?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on December 22, 2020, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Don't be a dick all the time, you know fine well that the Ulster Council had 2 different sets of instructions depending on govt policy either side of border

Nobody in the GAA uses the term 'ROI', nobody.

It's a DUP/UUP/BBC etc. term....definately not a GAA term.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2020, 08:47:24 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 22, 2020, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Don't be a dick all the time, you know fine well that the Ulster Council had 2 different sets of instructions depending on govt policy either side of border

Nobody in the GAA uses the term 'ROI', nobody.

It's a DUP/UUP/BBC etc. term....definately not a GAA term.

Bunch of free staters if you ask me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 22, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 22, 2020, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 21, 2020, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 21, 2020, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 21, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
Can I ask a question.

I've seen on social media lately some pictures of clubs having their 'final' juvenile sessions of the year.

Am I wrong to think that clubs were shut down weeks ago?

No still allowed to train in pods of 15 up until this week(non contact)

I thought that was for elite squads and I whilst there's some good work going on I didn't think an U8 group were elite..

;D

I don't know anymore lol, totally confused at this stage tbh, see load of clubs on Twitter training, mostly in ROI to be fair

Language of a partitionist.

Don't be a dick all the time, you know fine well that the Ulster Council had 2 different sets of instructions depending on govt policy either side of border

Nobody in the GAA uses the term 'ROI', nobody.

It's a DUP/UUP/BBC etc. term....definately not a GAA term.

What an absolute idiotic statement and one only looking for aggro. Wouid ye ever wise yerself up. You must be bleeding pure green, white and orange.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 11, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
Terrible and tragic news about James McLean from Dunloy. An gentleman in any dealings I ever had with him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 11, 2021, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
Terrible and tragic news about James McLean from Dunloy. An gentleman in any dealings I ever had with him.

Sorry to hear that. Condolences to the family and community of Dunloy.

Decent lad and a good referee back in his day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on January 11, 2021, 01:52:12 PM
What happened? first I'm hearing of anything
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
Terrible and tragic news about James McLean from Dunloy. An gentleman in any dealings I ever had with him.

Gutted to hear this, lovely man first and foremost. Committed Dunloy and Antrim man.

One of the best referees that I encountered when playing, never afraid to tell you off and explained things well during the game..

He would have always had a word or two before games that I refereed, and after, never too critical lol.. but always on the money!

Be strange not to see him hanging over the fence in Dunloy this year

RIP in peace James
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 11, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
Terrible and tragic news about James McLean from Dunloy. An gentleman in any dealings I ever had with him.

Gutted to hear this, lovely man first and foremost. Committed Dunloy and Antrim man.

One of the best referees that I encountered when playing, never afraid to tell you off and explained things well during the game..

He would have always had a word or two before games that I refereed, and after, never too critical lol.. but always on the money!

Be strange not to see him hanging over the fence in Dunloy this year

RIP in peace James

It was never a good thing when he was on first name terms with you  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
Ah that's sad. My dad would have known his family and they are decent people.

RIP James.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 11, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 11, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
Terrible and tragic news about James McLean from Dunloy. An gentleman in any dealings I ever had with him.

Gutted to hear this, lovely man first and foremost. Committed Dunloy and Antrim man.

One of the best referees that I encountered when playing, never afraid to tell you off and explained things well during the game..

He would have always had a word or two before games that I refereed, and after, never too critical lol.. but always on the money!

Be strange not to see him hanging over the fence in Dunloy this year

RIP in peace James

It was never a good thing when he was on first name terms with you  ;D

I remember we were playing Loughgiel in a semi final at Casement (remember Casement !) and I was on the management team, So I was running round to the keeper and giving instructions on the puck outs.

I'd stayed longer than I was welcomed, as he came down to me, and he's a big man, (though not difficult when standing besides me!) said me to get to the side of the pitch or otherwise get to the stand, didn't shout or howler, i just knew there wouldn't have been a second request.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 11, 2021, 03:41:48 PM
RIP James
Will be sorely missed round the club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 11, 2021, 03:55:37 PM
Very sad news. James had a short illness towards the end of last year and its been hard on his family to see him go from full of life to now.

I cant rem the last time i spoke to him but he was a great character and someone i got on very well with. When he was a ref he used to get me to come along with him to do umpire at some games. I loved the craic with the older lads as i was much younger than them all so you never had to dip to buy a dinner or anything when you were with him. Rescued me a few times from some angry senior hurlers who didnt agree with my call in some games  ;D but that was him, he trusted us to make the calls and even in my late teens he had me at some big games as part of his team

Got to umpire at National league games in various counties, senior hurling championship matches, the ulster shield final at clones etc. He used to always say to me before you went to your post at the start of the game 'go out and enjoy the game and please dont make any f**k ups! lol

He was in the pitch every day during lock down and i used to keep him going that he was that bored he was up to watch the grass grow!

Gave a lot of time to the GAA and to our club and will be badly missed.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2021, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on January 11, 2021, 03:55:37 PM
Very sad news. James had a short illness towards the end of last year and its been hard on his family to see him go from full of life to now.

I cant rem the last time i spoke to him but he was a great character and someone i got on very well with. When he was a ref he used to get me to come along with him to do umpire at some games. I loved the craic with the older lads as i was much younger than them all so you never had to dip to buy a dinner or anything when you were with him. Rescued me a few times from some angry senior hurlers who didnt agree with my call in some games  ;D but that was him, he trusted us to make the calls and even in my late teens he had me at some big games as part of his team

Got to umpire at National league games in various counties, senior hurling championship matches, the ulster shield final at clones etc. He used to always say to me before you went to your post at the start of the game 'go out and enjoy the game and please dont make any f**k ups! lol

He was in the pitch every day during lock down and i used to keep him going that he was that bored he was up to watch the grass grow!

Gave a lot of time to the GAA and to our club and will be badly missed.

Well said
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 15, 2021, 12:48:56 PM
I hate to be a spoil sport and  I have a lot of time for our current county hurling management but the way they are treating this current lockdown is shocking and downright disrespectful. I have heard the squad have been in the dub this week and are playing a game in Jordanstown tomorrow. We all want to be back to our national games and our clubs as soon as possible but this behaviour is careless and basically a two fingers up to all of us who are following the guidelines. This mixing households amoung young people is a huge part of the problem. Sharing cars, sharing equipment, bringing this dreaded and hateful virus home. We will all be back sooner if this madness stops. Wise up.

What time at? Might dander down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Old Time Hurler on January 16, 2021, 09:13:04 PM
Was talking to a good pal on county hurling panel and he said there is definitely NOT any collective training being done by panel. They have all been given individual training plans until they are allowed to start collective training
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2021, 10:26:11 PM
Aye I dandered down to UUJ wasn't anything going on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on January 17, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 15, 2021, 12:48:56 PM
I hate to be a spoil sport and  I have a lot of time for our current county hurling management but the way they are treating this current lockdown is shocking and downright disrespectful. I have heard the squad have been in the dub this week and are playing a game in Jordanstown tomorrow. We all want to be back to our national games and our clubs as soon as possible but this behaviour is careless and basically a two fingers up to all of us who are following the guidelines. This mixing households amoung young people is a huge part of the problem. Sharing cars, sharing equipment, bringing this dreaded and hateful virus home. We will all be back sooner if this madness stops. Wise up.

All of the posts are down at the Dub....somebody is spoofing
What time at? Might dander down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on January 18, 2021, 09:18:52 AM
Quote from: CornerBackNo2 on January 17, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2021, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on January 15, 2021, 12:48:56 PM
I hate to be a spoil sport and  I have a lot of time for our current county hurling management but the way they are treating this current lockdown is shocking and downright disrespectful. I have heard the squad have been in the dub this week and are playing a game in Jordanstown tomorrow. We all want to be back to our national games and our clubs as soon as possible but this behaviour is careless and basically a two fingers up to all of us who are following the guidelines. This mixing households amoung young people is a huge part of the problem. Sharing cars, sharing equipment, bringing this dreaded and hateful virus home. We will all be back sooner if this madness stops. Wise up.

All of the posts are down at the Dub....somebody is spoofing
What time at? Might dander down

As someone who knows what's going on most days at the Dub, I can categorically deny that there is ANY collective training going on there. Some bullshitters about here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 26, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
One of our hurling balls turns up on the shores of Rathlin.......

https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520 (https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520)

How the feck did it end up there??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2021, 09:49:56 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
One of our hurling balls turns up on the shores of Rathlin.......

https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520 (https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520)

How the feck did it end up there??

Sure its just a good puck from Ballycastle! Magic probably trying to hit a spectacular one and the wind has caught it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2021, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
One of our hurling balls turns up on the shores of Rathlin.......

https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520 (https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520)

How the feck did it end up there??

swiped after match usually
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 26, 2021, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2021, 09:49:56 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2021, 09:08:15 AM
One of our hurling balls turns up on the shores of Rathlin.......

https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520 (https://twitter.com/SR_on_Rathlin/status/1353770093533163520)

How the feck did it end up there??

Sure its just a good puck from Ballycastle! Magic probably trying to hit a spectacular one and the wind has caught it

f**k, must have been some puck from the Leyland Road to the Atlantic...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2021, 10:41:15 AM
Sure did they not find a football in wales very recently too? It came from waterford I think?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 26, 2021, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 26, 2021, 10:41:15 AM
Sure did they not find a football in wales very recently too? It came from waterford I think?

They play football in Waterford?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2021, 10:50:37 AM
Not this year they didn't (Well not against us as we're pesky diseased northerners ;D)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55710488#:~:text=The%20ball%20%2D%20owned%20by%2010,ashore%20on%20a%20Ceredigion%20beach. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55710488#:~:text=The%20ball%20%2D%20owned%20by%2010,ashore%20on%20a%20Ceredigion%20beach.)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on March 01, 2021, 08:14:18 PM
Bathshack senior hurling championship

Group 1
Loughgiel
Rossa
Ballycastle
St Endas

Group 2
Dunloy
St Johns
Cushendall
Tir Na nOg

Some decent games in store there for the senior games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on March 05, 2021, 01:51:53 PM
2nd v 3rd for Q/F still a thing this Year?

Obviously hard to tell but on paper how do people see the c'ship tables finishing up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2021, 02:09:15 PM
Group 2 very interesting. Is it two through?  Group 1 you could probably pick the top two.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on March 15, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
If its 2 through could probably guess group 1 being louguile & Rossa.
However if 3rd gets Q/F could st endas put it up to ballycastle?

Group 2 I'd imagine Dunloy to top with cushendall and the johnnies battling for 2/3rd
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 18, 2021, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: saffman on March 15, 2021, 03:51:37 PM
If its 2 through could probably guess group 1 being louguile & Rossa.
However if 3rd gets Q/F could st endas put it up to ballycastle?

Group 2 I'd imagine Dunloy to top with cushendall and the johnnies battling for 2/3rd

Ballycastle drew with Dunloy and St Johns in the championship last year with a very young team. I wouldn't be writing them off just yet, fully capable of springing a surprise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on March 19, 2021, 04:41:58 PM
Agreed & if they build on that again no reason they can't reach the semi finals and give it a rattle themselves.
Just think in group 1 if st endas are to be optimistic at all they'll be targetting the town for a result.
Unfortunately I just don't see it happening on group 2 for tir na nog at all. It is still great though seeing likes of Stuff endas & tir na nog up in the Snr championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2021, 04:47:36 PM
for me ballycastle and rossa have similarities. Both with their best panels are very useful. The covid and lockdown stuff has meant a lot less of their players could travel etc as both seem to fall into that camp where they have a lot of players who do which weakens them a lot.

Ballycastle, can't mind how many years ago, really threw a championship away and should have buried cushendall and it's not even all that long ago so they must have some talent about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on April 09, 2021, 05:06:06 PM
People of Antrim. It recently came to my attention that Olcan McFetridge won an Antrim and Ulster Club SHC with Loughgiel in 1989. How was this possible in he was a Glen Rovers Armoy club man? Was there a bye law at the time to enable this? Just curious.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2021, 05:08:08 PM
He moved club that year is all it was I think. I don't think he was an armoured player that year but he did move back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 12, 2021, 07:35:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2021, 05:08:08 PM
He moved club that year is all it was I think. I don't think he was an armoured player that year but he did move back.

It wasn't as straight forward as that. He had missed club championship with Armoy for the previous 2 years due to injury. When Armoy withdrew from the senior championship that year ( we had wanted to drop to intermediate but were not allowed ) he wanted to hurl in a club championship. That year he fielded for Armoy in the league, Div 1 and for Loughgiel in the Championship.
Don't ask me how those rules worked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2021, 09:48:00 PM
I didn't know any of that. Interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 12, 2021, 10:07:35 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 12, 2021, 07:35:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 09, 2021, 05:08:08 PM
He moved club that year is all it was I think. I don't think he was an armoured player that year but he did move back.

It wasn't as straight forward as that. He had missed club championship with Armoy for the previous 2 years due to injury. When Armoy withdrew from the senior championship that year ( we had wanted to drop to intermediate but were not allowed ) he wanted to hurl in a club championship. That year he fielded for Armoy in the league, Div 1 and for Loughgiel in the Championship.
Don't ask me how those rules worked.

Some obscure county bye-law.  ;)

Sambo was able to avail of one back in the day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 13, 2021, 11:08:40 AM
Wasn't that the year that Shamrock Rovers won the Antrim SHC?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 13, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 13, 2021, 11:08:40 AM
Wasn't that the year that Shamrock Rovers won the Antrim SHC?

Yeah that was the last one before their drought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
They playing a team down in Carey in the AI semi final. I can't even mind who it was. If I mind rightly they only got beat by a point. Ollie Kilkenny? was playing for the other team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on April 13, 2021, 01:47:37 PM
Loughgiel played Ballybrown from Limerick in the All-Ireland semi-final. I came on the match programme last week and saw Olcan was listed in the Loughgiel team. It didn't make sense as I knew he was Armoy, so I raised the query here.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 13, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
They playing a team down in Carey in the AI semi final. I can't even mind who it was. If I mind rightly they only got beat by a point. Ollie Kilkenny? was playing for the other team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 13, 2021, 06:04:41 PM
I thought it was a Limerick team with Kilkenny from Galway playing lol.

Yeah fair enough question. I wasn't aware of the circumstances surrounding it but it definitely was an odd one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.

Who did Sambo play with then?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.

Who did Sambo play with then?

Cushendall, all his life as far as I remember, although he may have messed about at Gaelic with Glenravel for a short time. Cushendall have never had a Gaelic team as far as I know. I believe the poster was referring to Sambo getting a suspension prematurely quashed to allow him to hurl for Antrim in an Ulster final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 19, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.

Who did Sambo play with then?

Cushendall, all his life as far as I remember, although he may have messed about at Gaelic with Glenravel for a short time. Cushendall have never had a Gaelic team as far as I know. I believe the poster was referring to Sambo getting a suspension prematurely quashed to allow him to hurl for Antrim in an Ulster final.

;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 19, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.

Who did Sambo play with then?

Cushendall, all his life as far as I remember, although he may have messed about at Gaelic with Glenravel for a short time. Cushendall have never had a Gaelic team as far as I know. I believe the poster was referring to Sambo getting a suspension prematurely quashed to allow him to hurl for Antrim in an Ulster final.

;)
In fairness that was a well dodgy move there, what year was it? Early 90s?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2021, 10:10:44 PM
Must have been 91 or 92. To be fair it was pretty out of character for him.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 19, 2021, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 19, 2021, 10:10:44 PM
Must have been 91 or 92. To be fair it was pretty out of character for him.

Remember it well, nuts lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2021, 08:47:08 AM
Those games were good early 90s between cushendall and ballycastle but they were a bit tense lol.

I see we drew Dublin the leinster. I guess it's about as good as we could hope for unless Laois. You never know if we keep going in the direction we have been going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2021, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 20, 2021, 08:47:08 AM
Those games were good early 90s between cushendall and ballycastle but they were a bit tense lol.

I see we drew Dublin the leinster. I guess it's about as good as we could hope for unless Laois. You never know if we keep going in the direction we have been going.

Big game with no pressure on Antrim, something to work towards, hopefully the squad get plenty of top notch challenge games ahead of it.

Antrim have never feared Dublin in the past, and while Dublin have been streets ahead of Antrim lately this is a 60/40 game, and we did put them on their arse in Dublin when they were fancied big time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 20, 2021, 08:58:59 AM
Laois beat them the other year. I think we have a chance. Keaney has just retired too which is a bonus lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 20, 2021, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 19, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 19, 2021, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: ned on April 13, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: ardtole on April 13, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
What clubs amalgamated to form shamrock rovers and what year?

Loughgiel and Cloot.





Who did Sambo play with then?

Cushendall, all his life as far as I remember, although he may have messed about at Gaelic with Glenravel for a short time. Cushendall have never had a Gaelic team as far as I know. I believe the poster was referring to Sambo getting a suspension prematurely quashed to allow him to hurl for Antrim in an Ulster final.

;)
In fairness that was a well dodgy move there, what year was it? Early 90s?

'93 I think.

Chris "hunter" Mageean had got sent off in a club game a month before for what was normally a 4 week ban but ended up getting 12 weeks!!

Antrim CB was indeed "well dodgy" back then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 21, 2021, 08:29:34 AM
Quote from: groundlie on April 20, 2021, 10:09:40 PM
Dublin in 1/4.

Im hearing Antrim are absolutely flying inside in training.

going well after 1 week's training  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on April 21, 2021, 08:59:12 AM
Its a good game for Antrim. We have nothing to lose whatsoever and the experience of last season plus the Division 1b campaign will stand them to good footing going forward.

If we wanted to see where we are going with this Antrim set then this is where we want to be. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2021, 09:14:25 AM
Yep exactly. Dublin are very good and would be rightly strong favourites but nothing to lose as you say and a really good barometer of where we are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 21, 2021, 06:50:28 PM
Beating Dublin is a huge task. If we can do that I'd be more than happy. Dublin near beat kk last year mind you but Galway really much better again only they imploded against kk.

I would have us as +10 against Dublin but if gleeson keeps us going the way he has been and he can do what dinny Cahill did and instil the belief in the players then we could be in with a shout.

One step at a time lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 21, 2021, 07:04:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 21, 2021, 06:50:28 PM
Beating Dublin is a huge task. If we can do that I'd be more than happy. Dublin near beat kk last year mind you but Galway really much better again only they imploded against kk.

I would have us as +10 against Dublin but if gleeson keeps us going the way he has been and he can do what dinny Cahill did and instil the belief in the players then we could be in with a shout.

One step at a time lol.

Love to see yous catch Dublin ,not be easy,last year we 3-4 lads miles off where they needed to be conditioning wise
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on May 03, 2021, 03:07:09 PM
Club games starting on Saturday. County v Clare at Corrigan on Sunday. Lots to look forward to. What is the story with spectators? I assume we are not allowed at the county game, what about club matches?
Hopefully Tony Kelly misses the bus to make the Clare match interesting.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on May 03, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 03, 2021, 03:07:09 PM
Club games starting on Saturday. County v Clare at Corrigan on Sunday. Lots to look forward to. What is the story with spectators? I assume we are not allowed at the county game, what about club matches?
Hopefully Tony Kelly misses the bus to make the Clare match interesting.

It will be after 24th May review  before spectators will be considered for attendance at games. Presently training/ games restricted to 100 people  participating on club grounds. 70 players / coaching team / stewards etc . Doesn't leave much room for spectators
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 03, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: delgany on May 03, 2021, 03:38:06 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 03, 2021, 03:07:09 PM
Club games starting on Saturday. County v Clare at Corrigan on Sunday. Lots to look forward to. What is the story with spectators? I assume we are not allowed at the county game, what about club matches?
Hopefully Tony Kelly misses the bus to make the Clare match interesting.

It will be after 24th May review  before spectators will be considered for attendance at games. Presently training/ games restricted to 100 people  participating on club grounds. 70 players / coaching team / stewards etc . Doesn't leave much room for spectators

At least they are back on! The 23rd not too far away and hopefully like last year there will be plenty of streaming for the games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 03, 2021, 05:09:32 PM
I think the Clare game deferred on tg4 and I read somewhere you can get it live on tg4 online.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.

Just a pity about the fixture mess, how they can claim to have consulted clubs on this is pure madness.
Talk about player welfare.  :-\
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.

Just a pity about the fixture mess, how they can claim to have consulted clubs on this is pure madness.
Talk about player welfare.  :-\

Haven't had a look at the fixtures bar this weekend, what's the issues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:09:31 AM
Well in August for championship time, some clubs will have 7 championship games in less than a month.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2021, 09:09:31 AM
Well in August for championship time, some clubs will have 7 championship games in less than a month.

I think this year and certainly last year is down to the covid issues and the intercounty games. Hopefully next year we will be able to have a normal season with championship played fairly for teams that will be using players in both codes.

Personally I felt the effects of that condensed season so I can only imagine the effect it had on the players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 05, 2021, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.

I presume if clubs wanted to stream themselves online there's nothing to stop them from league games..

Are clubs playing without their county players as well?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2021, 12:24:52 PM
I assume you need permission from both clubs? I know one I was about to watch last year and then at the last minute the visiting club didn't want it streamed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 05, 2021, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2021, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.

I presume if clubs wanted to stream themselves online there's nothing to stop them from league games..

Are clubs playing without their county players as well?

Antrim are playing the next day so I presume no county players. Dunloy lads are definitely not playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 05, 2021, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2021, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 05, 2021, 08:16:40 AM
Loughiel v Dunloy game being streamed on sat online. No supporters allowed in so this is def a positive! Have to give Antrim gaa team their credit they really have stepped things up again.

I presume if clubs wanted to stream themselves online there's nothing to stop them from league games..

Are clubs playing without their county players as well?

Antrim are playing the next day so I presume no county players. Dunloy lads are definitely not playing.

Dunloy should have a big enough squad, 8 more players added to the Antrim team from last year I see, some have dropped off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2021, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2021, 12:24:52 PM
I assume you need permission from both clubs? I know one I was about to watch last year and then at the last minute the visiting club didn't want it streamed.

from memory you need permission from both clubs to do so and the county - mainly down to if something happens at the game is it not?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 05, 2021, 08:12:53 PM
Anybody know the county panel this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 05, 2021, 08:12:53 PM
Anybody know the county panel this year?
Antrim hurling panel: Aaron Crawford, Ryan Elliott, Eoin O'Neill, Phelim Duffin, Keelan Molloy, Nicky McKeague, Ryan McGarry, Seaan Elliott, Conal Cunning (all Dunloy); Conall Bohill, Shea Shannon, Ciaran Johnston, Conor Johnston, Domhnall Nugent, Michael Bradley, Peter McCallin (all St John's); Neil McManus, Paddy Burke, Eoghan Campbell, Ryan McCambridge, Niall McCormack (all Cushendall); Declan McCloskey, Dan McCloskey, Damon McMullan, James McNaughton (all Loughgiel); Gerard Walsh, Aodhán O'Brien (both Rossa); Matthew Donnelly, Ciaran Clarke (both Ballycastle); Joe Maskey, Niall O'Connor (both Naomh Éanna); Conor McHugh (Cushendun); Conor McCann (Creggan); Niall McKenna (Sarsfield's); Stephen Rooney (St Paul's); Paul McMullan (Glenariffe).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 05, 2021, 09:20:04 PM
Hi lads,
New to the forum,
Big into antrim hurling,

Excited for this year, realistically it will be tough to win many games this year, but if we can compete, nick a few games and hopefully we can stay in div 1 and the leinster championship and build from there.
Final league game at home to Laois will be a biggee
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 05, 2021, 09:48:42 PM
Welcome along mate.

Its a good time for Antrim hurling at the moment. If we can build on the momentum from last year and hold our place again for the next season ill see that as a real success for us. Get the foot in the door and stay there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on May 05, 2021, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2021, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 05, 2021, 08:12:53 PM
Anybody know the county panel this year?
Antrim hurling panel: Aaron Crawford, Ryan Elliott, Eoin O'Neill, Phelim Duffin, Keelan Molloy, Nicky McKeague, Ryan McGarry, Seaan Elliott, Conal Cunning (all Dunloy); Conall Bohill, Shea Shannon, Ciaran Johnston, Conor Johnston, Domhnall Nugent, Michael Bradley, Peter McCallin (all St John's); Neil McManus, Paddy Burke, Eoghan Campbell, Ryan McCambridge, Niall McCormack (all Cushendall); Declan McCloskey, Dan McCloskey, Damon McMullan, James McNaughton (all Loughgiel); Gerard Walsh, Aodhán O'Brien (both Rossa); Matthew Donnelly, Ciaran Clarke (both Ballycastle); Joe Maskey, Niall O'Connor (both Naomh Éanna); Conor McHugh (Cushendun); Conor McCann (Creggan); Niall McKenna (Sarsfield's); Stephen Rooney (St Paul's); Paul McMullan (Glenariffe).

Cheers pal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 06, 2021, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 05, 2021, 09:20:04 PM
Hi lads,
New to the forum,
Big into antrim hurling,

Excited for this year, realistically it will be tough to win many games this year, but if we can compete, nick a few games and hopefully we can stay in div 1 and the leinster championship and build from there.
Final league game at home to Laois will be a biggee

Welcome to the forum Tormund just watch out for MR2 he's a wind up merchant 😄😄😄
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2021, 02:41:21 PM
It was nice to be at a hurling match last night in lovely Spring / Summer weather, a senior hurling match in south Belfast where the Naomh Brid keeper was 35 years older than the youngest player. That's what you call a blend of youth and experience :)

It was well refereed too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 06, 2021, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2021, 02:41:21 PM
It was nice to be at a hurling match last night in lovely Spring / Summer weather, a senior hurling match in south Belfast where the Naomh Brid keeper was 35 years older than the youngest player. That's what you call a blend of youth and experience :)

It was well refereed too!

Seen that on Twitter, would Naomh brid be boys from other clubs moving to Belfast or a lot of their young lads coming from their brid Og?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
From what I could tell mostly lads have come through juvenile ranks, and senior footballers who had previously hurled as juveniles, plus the American guest / former ice hockey player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on May 07, 2021, 09:59:41 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2021, 03:35:43 PM
From what I could tell mostly lads have come through juvenile ranks, and senior footballers who had previously hurled as juveniles, plus the American guest / former ice hockey player.

and religious half-pace hurler!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 07, 2021, 10:54:31 AM
Might be of interest to you lads but the Antrim Clare game is on the TG4 app for your smart TV;

https://www.tg4.ie/en/information/press/press-releases/2021-2/tg4-launches-new-smart-tv-app/ (https://www.tg4.ie/en/information/press/press-releases/2021-2/tg4-launches-new-smart-tv-app/)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 07, 2021, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2021, 10:54:31 AM
Might be of interest to you lads but the Antrim Clare game is on the TG4 app for your smart TV;

https://www.tg4.ie/en/information/press/press-releases/2021-2/tg4-launches-new-smart-tv-app/ (https://www.tg4.ie/en/information/press/press-releases/2021-2/tg4-launches-new-smart-tv-app/)

Thanks JC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2021, 12:27:32 PM
Happy days it's on LG too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on May 07, 2021, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 06, 2021, 02:41:21 PM
It was nice to be at a hurling match last night in lovely Spring / Summer weather, a senior hurling match in south Belfast where the Naomh Brid keeper was 35 years older than the youngest player. That's what you call a blend of youth and experience :)

It was well refereed too!

I refereed a friendly last Sunday morning, felt absolutely fantastic to be back at it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2021, 09:43:30 PM
Interesting lineup for the Clare game. Walsh in fb is an interesting one and Campbell to hb to get McManus in midfield. McMullan from loughgiel into corner back is a change too. That aside much the same as last year. It looks a strong lineup though but like any division one game it's a big task.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on May 07, 2021, 09:57:38 PM
Where's the team? Are all 35 from the squad being held back from club games ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2021, 10:02:45 PM
Video on Twitter or I'd paste it in.

From memory...
Elliot
Rooney Walsh McMullan
Campbell Burke masked
  McManus molloy
Bradley mcnaughton McKenna
Clarke McCann

I can't mind the other corner forward. Maybe mccloskey?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2021, 10:04:54 PM
Other corner forward is coral cunning. I don't know on the club player question.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 08, 2021, 09:00:39 AM
Yea a strong team, eoghan campbell dropping to hb and mcmanus into midfield, great to see mcmanus back!
In the fb line mattie donnelly and duffin dropping, damon mcmullan coming in and walsh coming in from hb.
The hf and ff line looks great aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2021, 10:20:05 AM
The bookies say we are 10 points off Clare. Was it tactics dropping Mattie or is he injured?

Clare last season were a one man band, they are better than that and won't get away with that this year (commentators scud)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 01:04:50 PM
Mattie Donnelly a great hurler but I would worry about his pace against these teams.

Clare plus ten sounds about right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 03:52:28 PM
Anyone looked for the tg4 app on their smart tv? Is it available up here?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 08, 2021, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 01:04:50 PM
Mattie Donnelly a great hurler but I would worry about his pace against these teams.

Clare plus ten sounds about right.

Yea i was thinking that aswell about his pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 08, 2021, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 03:52:28 PM
Anyone looked for the tg4 app on their smart tv? Is it available up here?

I got it on my tv but im living in the south now, hopefully its available up home aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on May 08, 2021, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 03:52:28 PM
Anyone looked for the tg4 app on their smart tv? Is it available up here?

Got it today grand and was working OK
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 01:41:28 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on May 08, 2021, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 08, 2021, 03:52:28 PM
Anyone looked for the tg4 app on their smart tv? Is it available up here?

Got it today grand and was working OK

Not working well on my device, comes on for a second or two then off
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 02:38:22 PM
Wow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
I couldn't get a stream. Fantastic win.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 09, 2021, 02:46:38 PM
What a win!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 09, 2021, 02:57:20 PM
Yess! What a win! Unbelievable, over the moon  :D i cant believe it, they were brilliant!

For me its our biggest win since we beat dublin in croke park in 2010

I cant remember seeing us beat one of the big munster teams before
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2021, 03:04:19 PM
Fantastic win for the saffrons .  Nár laga Dia sibh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 09, 2021, 02:57:20 PM
Yess! What a win! Unbelievable, over the moon  :D i cant believe it, they were brilliant!

For me its our biggest win since we beat dublin in croke park in 2010

I cant remember seeing us beat one of the big munster teams before

I think we beat tipp in cushendall before.

Yes that is a big win. To me the league matters more now with lockdown and less time between league and championship so this win is a big one as you say.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
I wonder how many minutes we get tonight and will Donal Og eats his words?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
What a great day to be a safe, delighted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 09, 2021, 03:33:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 03:07:27 PM
I wonder how many minutes we get tonight and will Donal Og eats his words?

Yea it'll be interesting to see that.
They'll probably spend more time talking about how bad it is for Clare instead of giving us the credit
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
He'll have a Clare hurling restructuring plan at the ready ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on May 09, 2021, 04:00:17 PM
Hurling people have been putting far better structures in place in recent times. Todays result further evidence of what can be done when the things are being done properly. Tony Shivers and the Mc Keague family leading from the front.

Dublin next up will be another massive test to see how far this group have come. Well done to everyone involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 09, 2021, 04:13:05 PM
What a result, the effort in raising the standard from the management and players is paying off. We knew the hurlers were there and were hopefully gonna start showing it. Delighted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2021, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
What a great day to be a safe, delighted

What's a safe?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2021, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
What a great day to be a safe, delighted

What's a safe?

Saff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 05:19:19 PM
I think it's Kilkenny next. Doesn't get easier anyway. Delighted with that result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on May 09, 2021, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2021, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
What a great day to be a safe, delighted

What's a safe?
I presume a saff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on May 09, 2021, 05:33:24 PM
Great result. I would maybe wait until the end of league before the "I told you so" in relation to Donal Og. Historically we have a much better chance of catching teams at the start of a campaign. Som very tough games ahead and just a pity we can't get to see them in person
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 09, 2021, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: MoChara on May 09, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
What a great day to be a safe, delighted

What's a safe?

Saff

Indeed, my autocorrect must be a freestater and refused to give us the credit we deserved  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2021, 08:11:15 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0509/1217879-gleeson-urges-antrim-to-push-on-after-banner-scalp/

Antrim have a proud hurling tradition and Gleeson wants his players to tap into that.

"Every game is an opportunity to go out and represent your county. The county jersey is important and I think we have instilled that again. All the players come from fantastic clubs and all want to represent their county well.

"Today is done and we move on, we're finished with it and move on to next week."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 09, 2021, 05:33:24 PM
Great result. I would maybe wait until the end of league before the "I told you so" in relation to Donal Og. Historically we have a much better chance of catching teams at the start of a campaign. Som very tough games ahead and just a pity we can't get to see them in person

If I'd looked at Antrim's home league campaign at the start of the year I'd have never have put this game down as a win, I'd have struggled to look at any of our home games as bankers.

So an outstanding result and whatever happens after this at home is a bonus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 09, 2021, 09:10:35 PM
If we can pick up at least one more win that should hopefully keep us in div 1 for next year. If we do that and are competitive in the other games i think that'll be a success
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 10:30:07 PM
Auld donal og still thinks he's right. Not very gracious.

They said Clare were diminutive- tell that to the full back, right half back or right half forward who were absolute beasts of men. Conlon or Shanaher not exactly small either. They are small compared to Limerick too :o
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 10:30:07 PM
Auld donal og still thinks he's right. Not very gracious.

They said Clare were diminutive- tell that to the full back, right half back or right half forward who were absolute beasts of men. Conlon or Shanaher not exactly small either. They are small compared to Limerick too :o

Never watched it but there is no way he'd have backed down
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2021, 10:59:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2021, 10:30:07 PM
Auld donal og still thinks he's right. Not very gracious.

They said Clare were diminutive- tell that to the full back, right half back or right half forward who were absolute beasts of men. Conlon or Shanaher not exactly small either. They are small compared to Limerick too :o
Cork and gracious are mutually exclusive words.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of serious chips on shoulders about donál ógs comments last year. His comments were not that bad and he has always been much more supportive of Ulster hurling then most. Antrim were carrying few seriously out of condition players last year, they looked much improved today. Good luck to yous
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of serious chips on shoulders about donál ógs comments last year. His comments were not that bad and he has always been much more supportive of Ulster hurling then most. Antrim were carrying few seriously out of condition players last year, they looked much improved today. Good luck to yous

Seriously? His comments were based on one match, you actually believe he's watched anything other than that Kerry game?

Antrim last year were head and shoulders above anything in that league, today they raised the bar further
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 12:30:09 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of serious chips on shoulders about donál ógs comments last year. His comments were not that bad and he has always been much more supportive of Ulster hurling then most. Antrim were carrying few seriously out of condition players last year, they looked much improved today. Good luck to yous


He's a terrible analyst, talk about lazy journalism. A good journalist would have probably watched some of their matches on the lead up to the final and new it was an under-par performance aided by a Kerry team who set up with two sweepers and wanted to make the game a slug fest. Fair play to Joanne Cantwell she made him squirm tonight on the Sunday Game. It's just another Donal Og howler nearly as bad as his views on hurling people who don't like the sweeper systems as the "last remnants of British culture on these islands" .
Really he's cringe worthy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: joemamas on May 10, 2021, 01:00:31 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 12:30:09 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of serious chips on shoulders about donál ógs comments last year. His comments were not that bad and he has always been much more supportive of Ulster hurling then most. Antrim were carrying few seriously out of condition players last year, they looked much improved today. Good luck to yous


He's a terrible analyst, talk about lazy journalism. A good journalist would have probably watched some of their matches on the lead up to the final and new it was an under-par performance aided by a Kerry team who set up with two sweepers and wanted to make the game a slug fest. Fair play to Joanne Cantwell she made him squirm tonight on the Sunday Game. It's just another Donal Og howler nearly as bad as his views on hurling people who don't like the sweeper systems as the "last remnants of British culture on these islands" .
Really he's cringe worthy

He is the most dour Boll*cks on the TV. Glass always half empty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 07:25:52 AM
He watched one game then made a sweeping statement on it. Like was said it was pure laziness and poor to not just congratulate us and leave it at that rather than talk about shipping heavy beatings.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: John Egans left boot on May 10, 2021, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 07:25:52 AM
He watched one game then made a sweeping statement on it. Like was said it was pure laziness and poor to not just congratulate us and leave it at that rather than talk about shipping heavy beatings.

Fair play yesterday to ya, we had a cracking second half to blow Down away. Donal og is there to give his opinion he maybe went a bit far. But let's talk turkey clare are a team and a county in turmoil only have to listen to A Daly on Sunday sport yesterday. I'm not taking away from Antrim's performance what I am saying is this t he usual flash in the pan you get from Antrim like Laois, Offaly, Westmeath against the tier 1 counties every now and again - I think so,Wexford and Kilkenny will let you know the true picture.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2021, 08:14:36 AM
Hi lads well done on your win, but..... :o

The usual garbage from folk after a defeat to a team like Antrim where everything from the weather will be rolled out as an excuse.

Here's a good one to try - Clare were beat by a better team.

We are good at seeing that up here in Antrim when we lose to a better team. We don't make excuses why a team like Clare, Wexford, Offaly etc beat us, we accept we weren't good enough and try and find ways to better what is going on.

And if Kilkenny do show us 'the true picture' we will be the better for having taken on a better team and hopefully can learn lessons from it to improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 08:21:59 AM
I would agree with most of what you say. We will find it tough and Laois the big game for us. We have definitely upped it physically but kk, Wexford and even Dublin probably a step up in that regard and we might struggle in the physical stakes. Being competitive the key thing here.

It was a good win for Kerry. You looked to be getting it tight for a while.

(Donal og watched one game is the main bugbear. We had played some great stuff last year but didn't in the final. He formed his opinion on the one game which was the one we didn't play well in. Also again after a great win yesterday  he just seemed to want to piss on our parade)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 08:24:59 AM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on May 10, 2021, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 07:25:52 AM
He watched one game then made a sweeping statement on it. Like was said it was pure laziness and poor to not just congratulate us and leave it at that rather than talk about shipping heavy beatings.

Fair play yesterday to ya, we had a cracking second half to blow Down away. Donal og is there to give his opinion he maybe went a bit far. But let's talk turkey clare are a team and a county in turmoil only have to listen to A Daly on Sunday sport yesterday. I'm not taking away from Antrim's performance what I am saying is this t he usual flash in the pan you get from Antrim like Laois, Offaly, Westmeath against the tier 1 counties every now and again - I think so,Wexford and Kilkenny will let you know the true picture.

playing  Laois and  Dublin will let us know the real picture. If we can get one victory from those matches and compete in the other matches then we are progressing. Covid means you guys down there aren't floating about playing challenge matches left right and centre. Seems to have evened things up a small bit for us ones up here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 09:14:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 08:21:59 AM
I would agree with most of what you say. We will find it tough and Laois the big game for us. We have definitely upped it physically but kk, Wexford and even Dublin probably a step up in that regard and we might struggle in the physical stakes. Being competitive the key thing here.

It was a good win for Kerry. You looked to be getting it tight for a while.

(Donal og watched one game is the main bugbear. We had played some great stuff last year but didn't in the final. He formed his opinion on the one game which was the one we didn't play well in. Also again after a great win yesterday  he just seemed to want to piss on our parade)

Donal O'g gets paid to give an opinion and IMO in the McDonagh final he hadn't done one puff of research and trotted out a lazy narrative in trying not to trot out another lazy narrative in "yer doing a great job up there"....

Another thing that grates on me is that it's purely Darren Gleeson that has those players well coached. Now Gleeson is probably a good coach indeed but if he hadn't got the players at his disposal capable of playing that style then it wouldn't matter how good his gameplan is.
Eoghan Campbell, Molloy, McKenna probably never had any involvement with Gleeson until he took over. It was the clubs and previous development coaches all probably to a man from Antrim that developed them, which in fairness to Dowling he recognised from his club battles.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 09:22:00 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0509/1217916-donal-og-cusack-antrim-will-still-struggle-in-league/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 09:30:55 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 09:14:10 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 08:21:59 AM
I would agree with most of what you say. We will find it tough and Laois the big game for us. We have definitely upped it physically but kk, Wexford and even Dublin probably a step up in that regard and we might struggle in the physical stakes. Being competitive the key thing here.

It was a good win for Kerry. You looked to be getting it tight for a while.

(Donal og watched one game is the main bugbear. We had played some great stuff last year but didn't in the final. He formed his opinion on the one game which was the one we didn't play well in. Also again after a great win yesterday  he just seemed to want to piss on our parade)

Donal O'g gets paid to give an opinion and IMO in the McDonagh final he hadn't done one puff of research and trotted out a lazy narrative in trying not to trot out another lazy narrative in "yer doing a great job up there"....

Another thing that grates on me is that it's purely Darren Gleeson that has those players well coached. Now Gleeson is probably a good coach indeed but if he hadn't got the players at his disposal capable of playing that style then it wouldn't matter how good his gameplan is.
Eoghan Campbell, Molloy, McKenna probably never had any involvement with Gleeson until he took over. It was the clubs and previous development coaches all probably to a man from Antrim that developed them, which in fairness to Dowling he recognised from his club battles.

Yeah he's not a magician but he has done fantastic too. The standard of hurling in clubs in antrim and in the ards peninsula isn't bad and when there's full investment in the county setup then you can see there are very good players there. Gleeson is getting investment from players, has them believing and playing a system and the setup has just improved on the whole. Covid has been a funny thing in that some counties with typically less buy in have got more because players are not away travelling etc. The same could be said of Down. (That's not to say Gleeson wouldn't have had the buy in anyway - I think he would)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 10, 2021, 09:32:03 AM
Anyone fancy use against the Cats on Sunday? This team just doesn't know how to be beaten. Losing isn't part of their mind set. Kilkenny will be worried. With the form Clarke is in he's totally unplayable. I fancy us to take Dublin and Wexford in this league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 09:36:09 AM
It's really great to see Antrim back. There is a lot of grá for Antrim in the hurling counties.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 10, 2021, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
A lot of serious chips on shoulders about donál ógs comments last year. His comments were not that bad and he has always been much more supportive of Ulster hurling then most. Antrim were carrying few seriously out of condition players last year, they looked much improved today. Good luck to yous

Seriously? His comments were based on one match, you actually believe he's watched anything other than that Kerry game?

Antrim last year were head and shoulders above anything in that league, today they raised the bar further

I watched it back and he said that performance wouldn't match higher level, it was an accurate comment based on that match which thankfully Antrim have reacted to well, they looked much better condition yesterday, their speed, intensity and conditioning was noticeably better and I watched quiet a few games last year. Donal made some very supportive comments in the same interview and honestly Antrim supporters should just brush it off-that's punditry, I think he is a decent pundit. Shane Dowling is agreeing with there yesterday
I am thinking of buying the 89 rig :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 10:25:55 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 10, 2021, 09:32:03 AM
Anyone fancy use against the Cats on Sunday? This team just doesn't know how to be beaten. Losing isn't part of their mind set. Kilkenny will be worried. With the form Clarke is in he's totally unplayable. I fancy us to take Dublin and Wexford in this league.

Antrim need to maintain the same precision in their passing and TBH looked more accomplished at it than the clips I saw of Kilkenny trying to work the ball up the field against Dublin and also need that full forward line to get good ball in front of them and to turn and go like Clarke did on Sunday. Kilkenny don't allow those spaces normally but as McManus said on OTB that there's nothing expected of them, the pressures off so go and give it a lash.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
Great result yesterday and fully deserved.

The team has a really nice mix of player. I think the physicality of Clare suited our players and the tighter Corrigan pitch also does. The Laois and Dublin games are the litmus test for the year. Hopefully get a result in one or both and extend the stay in the division.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

The Clare team of old had some big heavy hitters on it!

Anyways is this the same Clare team that the pundits were raving about last year when Tony Kelly was single handedly rocking them through the championship?

Watched the Laois and Wexford game, Laois were staying with Wexford for good parts of that game, 2 soft enough goals in the first half put a better look on it for Wexford who until Chin came on looked ordinary enough, he's the type of player that grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, the last few scores were against a 14 man team after the sin binning.

Physically Wexford were bigger and may be bigger than our lads, I thought our hooking and blocking and defending in numbers was great to see as we'll need to up the anti again.

On the sending off for Laois did we no carry out the same offence in Corrigan, Clare lad running in and was pulled down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 11:14:12 AM
The tackling intensity was the best I've seen in years from an antrim team to be fair. Reminded me a bit of Loughgiel in 2012 with the intensity they brought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

The Clare team of old had some big heavy hitters on it!

Anyways is this the same Clare team that the pundits were raving about last year when Tony Kelly was single handedly rocking them through the championship?

Watched the Laois and Wexford game, Laois were staying with Wexford for good parts of that game, 2 soft enough goals in the first half put a better look on it for Wexford who until Chin came on looked ordinary enough, he's the type of player that grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, the last few scores were against a 14 man team after the sin binning.

Physically Wexford were bigger and may be bigger than our lads, I thought our hooking and blocking and defending in numbers was great to see as we'll need to up the anti again.

On the sending off for Laois did we no carry out the same offence in Corrigan, Clare lad running in and was pulled down?

Wondered about that myself...

Is there something in the rules about a goalscoring opportunity? Maybe with the other defenders back the ref in Corrigan decided Walsh didn't deny the goalscoring opportunity but the Laois lad wasn't afforded that same leeway.

I'd say the ref in Corrigan might get a call for some retraining....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2021, 11:33:29 AM
Darren and his set up really have went all out looking how to bring out the best. I noticed yesterday he has Clinton Hennessey now as the keeper coach for the set up. I mean who better than a former Waterford keeper to add those extra touches to the improvements.

If Antrim can continue to keep making the improvements off the pitch as well as on it we can continue to be in a place where we can stay at the top tier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 10, 2021, 11:34:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

The Clare team of old had some big heavy hitters on it!

Anyways is this the same Clare team that the pundits were raving about last year when Tony Kelly was single handedly rocking them through the championship?

Watched the Laois and Wexford game, Laois were staying with Wexford for good parts of that game, 2 soft enough goals in the first half put a better look on it for Wexford who until Chin came on looked ordinary enough, he's the type of player that grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, the last few scores were against a 14 man team after the sin binning.

Physically Wexford were bigger and may be bigger than our lads, I thought our hooking and blocking and defending in numbers was great to see as we'll need to up the anti again.

On the sending off for Laois did we no carry out the same offence in Corrigan, Clare lad running in and was pulled down?

Wondered about that myself...

Is there something in the rules about a goalscoring opportunity? Maybe with the other defenders back the ref in Corrigan decided Walsh didn't deny the goalscoring opportunity but the Laois lad wasn't afforded that same leeway.

I'd say the ref in Corrigan might get a call for some retraining....

Presumably the fact that there were two more defenders between the Clare player and the goal was the decisive factor?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

The Clare team of old had some big heavy hitters on it!

Anyways is this the same Clare team that the pundits were raving about last year when Tony Kelly was single handedly rocking them through the championship?

Watched the Laois and Wexford game, Laois were staying with Wexford for good parts of that game, 2 soft enough goals in the first half put a better look on it for Wexford who until Chin came on looked ordinary enough, he's the type of player that grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, the last few scores were against a 14 man team after the sin binning.

Physically Wexford were bigger and may be bigger than our lads, I thought our hooking and blocking and defending in numbers was great to see as we'll need to up the anti again.

On the sending off for Laois did we no carry out the same offence in Corrigan, Clare lad running in and was pulled down?

Wondered about that myself...

Is there something in the rules about a goalscoring opportunity? Maybe with the other defenders back the ref in Corrigan decided Walsh didn't deny the goalscoring opportunity but the Laois lad wasn't afforded that same leeway.

I'd say the ref in Corrigan might get a call for some retraining....

I think Walsh got away with it because there was still two defenders between shanaher and the goals and maybe the Ref evaluated he wasn't clean through on the keeper if not dragged down. When it's your day you get away with these marginal calls. Isn't it great to have southern refs officiating with some balance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 10, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
I think there has been a right bit of weight training going on too as the likes of Burke , Campbell, Molloy, Clarke (to be honest the lot of them really) have bulked up and in a better position physically. Burke definitely broke a lot of tackles to make clearances yesterday and a few years ago I don't think he could have done that. That said as others said Clare wouldn't be known for being too physical.

The Clare team of old had some big heavy hitters on it!

Anyways is this the same Clare team that the pundits were raving about last year when Tony Kelly was single handedly rocking them through the championship?

Watched the Laois and Wexford game, Laois were staying with Wexford for good parts of that game, 2 soft enough goals in the first half put a better look on it for Wexford who until Chin came on looked ordinary enough, he's the type of player that grabs the game by the scruff of the neck, the last few scores were against a 14 man team after the sin binning.

Physically Wexford were bigger and may be bigger than our lads, I thought our hooking and blocking and defending in numbers was great to see as we'll need to up the anti again.

On the sending off for Laois did we no carry out the same offence in Corrigan, Clare lad running in and was pulled down?

Wondered about that myself...

Is there something in the rules about a goalscoring opportunity? Maybe with the other defenders back the ref in Corrigan decided Walsh didn't deny the goalscoring opportunity but the Laois lad wasn't afforded that same leeway.

I'd say the ref in Corrigan might get a call for some retraining....

I think Walsh got away with it because there was still two defenders between shanaher and the goals and maybe the Ref evaluated he wasn't clean through on the keeper if not dragged down. When it's your day you get away with these marginal calls. Isn't it great to have southern refs officiating with some balance.

But Laois also had other defenders back and the Wexford lad was just inside the D..

IMO Walsh got away with it, but you take your luck when it comes.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 11:47:39 AM
Antrim have to stay up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uwrsXploY
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 10, 2021, 11:33:29 AM
Darren and his set up really have went all out looking how to bring out the best. I noticed yesterday he has Clinton Hennessey now as the keeper coach for the set up. I mean who better than a former Waterford keeper to add those extra touches to the improvements.

If Antrim can continue to keep making the improvements off the pitch as well as on it we can continue to be in a place where we can stay at the top tier.

I noticed that about Hennessey too which I didn't know. He played for Loughgiel in some games.(3rds I think and outfield)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 10, 2021, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on May 10, 2021, 11:33:29 AM
Darren and his set up really have went all out looking how to bring out the best. I noticed yesterday he has Clinton Hennessey now as the keeper coach for the set up. I mean who better than a former Waterford keeper to add those extra touches to the improvements.

If Antrim can continue to keep making the improvements off the pitch as well as on it we can continue to be in a place where we can stay at the top tier.

I noticed that about Hennessey too which I didn't know. He played for Loughgiel in some games.(3rds I think and outfield)

Yeah he didnt really play much for Loughgiel, seen him play against our reserves once in a league game.

Know him well enough and hes a top man and also a top keeper at that. Its another good addition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 10, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 09:36:09 AM
It's really great to see Antrim back. There is a lot of grá for Antrim in the hurling counties.

Thanks,
I was at a galway v antrim hurling game years ago in salthill, 1st half was close, 2nd half galway pulled away, but the home crowd were really respectful even when you started to hammer us, even applauding when we got a point. You wouldnt get that in most grounds.
Altho tipp are my 2nd team cos of dinny cahill, liam sheedy and darren gleeson
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 10, 2021, 01:56:09 PM
I thought Darren Glesson was very clever after the game, downplaying the result and saying we need to focus on the next one etc.
He's a great coach, i hope he can stick the travelling up and down to stay with us for at least another couple of years.
I can see him managing tipp in the future
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 10, 2021, 01:56:09 PM
I thought Darren Glesson was very clever after the game, downplaying the result and saying we need to focus on the next one etc.
He's a great coach, i hope he can stick the travelling up and down to stay with us for at least another couple of years.
I can see him managing tipp in the future
He's very impressive. He also said:
"All the players come from fantastic clubs and all want to represent their county well."
A good motivator.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 02:44:06 PM
Pretty sure I saw us beat Galway in a league game in Ballinasloe then we got to the knockout stages of the league and played that great Clare team when no one had realised they were going to be great yet. We realised the day we played them unfortunately lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 02:51:40 PM
Division 1 odds


Laois 1000/1
Antrim 200/1

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/hurling/nhl-division-1/winner
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 02:44:06 PM
Pretty sure I saw us beat Galway in a league game in Ballinasloe then we got to the knockout stages of the league and played that great Clare team when no one had realised they were going to be great yet. We realised the day we played them unfortunately lol.

Bate Galway in the league in Casement, won the Walsh cup also  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Calm Down on May 10, 2021, 03:14:05 PM
Not to put a dampener on yesterday lads, however bad form to see the new County PRO interfering with Clare taking a side-line cut, a County Official representing the CB should not be at this carry on, this would not be acceptable in a club game never mind at a crucial point in what was a pretty high profile day for the County.

On a better note, what a performance, the inferiority complex was left in the dressing room and with the positive attitude there could be a bright future for this crop of players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 03:49:55 PM
I read Cj McGourty post that on twitter but hadn't noticed. Bad form if so.

I didn't realise we'd beat Galway in casement in the hurling. I knew we did in the football. We better stop now though. Sf came on to be nice ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 03:49:55 PM
I read Cj McGourty post that on twitter but hadn't noticed. Bad form if so.

I didn't realise we'd beat Galway in casement in the hurling. I knew we did in the football. We better stop now though. Sf came on to be nice ;D

I remember one of our players being hooked by the opposition manager when he was taking a sideline cut, nearly started world war 3  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 04:29:45 PM
Still - better than an Alan Pardew effort going for a headbutt lol. (Not good behaviour tbh but I suspect he'll be pulled on it and won't happen again)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 02:44:06 PM
Pretty sure I saw us beat Galway in a league game in Ballinasloe then we got to the knockout stages of the league and played that great Clare team when no one had realised they were going to be great yet. We realised the day we played them unfortunately lol.

Bate Galway in the league in Casement, won the Walsh cup also  :D

I was in casement for that match v Galway, Johnny Tosh running at full pelt and released a bullet to the net with the game on the blow when we where 2 down. Some crowd at league games back then and the place was rocking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Carlovia on May 10, 2021, 07:04:49 PM
Well done to Antrim from your friends in Carlow.

Was impressed with your team in the MacDonagh and
great to see the progress continue.

Keep it going.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on May 10, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 10, 2021, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2021, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2021, 02:44:06 PM
Pretty sure I saw us beat Galway in a league game in Ballinasloe then we got to the knockout stages of the league and played that great Clare team when no one had realised they were going to be great yet. We realised the day we played them unfortunately lol.

Bate Galway in the league in Casement, won the Walsh cup also  :D

I was in casement for that match v Galway, Johnny Tosh running at full pelt and released a bullet to the net with the game on the blow when we where 2 down. Some crowd at league games back then and the place was rocking.

Jingo's first match in charge in 2006. Was roaring at Tosh to tap it over when it got it because Antrim were winning all the puckouts at that stage and thought they could scrape a draw. Glad he didn't listen...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on May 10, 2021, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 11:47:39 AM
Antrim have to stay up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uwrsXploY

Class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 10, 2021, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: Carlovia on May 10, 2021, 07:04:49 PM
Well done to Antrim from your friends in Carlow.

Was impressed with your team in the MacDonagh and
great to see the progress continue.

Keep it going.

Cheers buddy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: John Egans left boot on May 10, 2021, 11:48:05 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 10, 2021, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 11:47:39 AM
Antrim have to stay up

Folks question ?? Is mc Manus is a yes man?? I  remember the bold stroke he pulled against Kerry in Tralee 2 years ago as dirty as action as I ever seen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2021, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: John Egans left boot on May 10, 2021, 11:48:05 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 10, 2021, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 10, 2021, 11:47:39 AM
Antrim have to stay up

Folks question ?? Is mc Manus is a yes man?? I  remember the bold stroke he pulled against Kerry in Tralee 2 years ago as dirty as action as I ever seen

Don't understand the first part of your post, but he wouldn't be the one I'd be pulling up for dirty strokes when I've refereed him or watched him over the years, his booking on Sunday was a simple yellow when he rapped the hand of the Clare lad, late challenge no malice. I can't remember the challenge you have mentioned in Tralee so can't comment on it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2021, 09:59:41 AM
He's not a dirty player any time I have seen him and I have seen plenty of him over the years. He gets a fair bit of attention in the antrim championship and any time I have seen him he's always behaved himself.

Can't comment on what happened in Tralee.

What has a yes man got to do with pulling a dirty stroke or even playing hurling lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 11, 2021, 10:05:02 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrim-back-in-hurling-s-top-tier-thanks-to-health-of-club-system-1.4560896

Antrim back in hurling's top tier thanks to health of club system
Sunday's win against Clare was their first over an established hurling county since 2012
about 4 hours ago

Seán Moran

 
Antrim's storming return to the top divisions of the Allianz Hurling League is creating optimism that a new start is possible for the county, who in the past 25 years have slipped from guaranteed All-Ireland semi-finalists to the second grade of the hurling championship.

Back at the top in both league and championship after a barnstorming 2020, winning league promotion and the McDonagh Cup, Antrim hit the ground running on Sunday by defeating Clare, who were unbeaten in last year's group matches, overcoming an early deficit and slugging it out, point for point, in the second half for a famous win.

County chair Ciarán McCavana says that many people in the county have been slightly disorientated by the fall from grace.

"Maybe people my age – I'm 46 – believe Antrim should be at the top table but realistically you only get there by winning games. We've done that, stepped up but that's only by putting in the hard yards with our development squads and our under-17s and under-20s to ensure we stay there. In the past we were a bit in denial and hopefully now we're putting in solid foundations."

He pinpoints how the growing strength of the club game is helping.

"Antrim club hurling is getting stronger and stronger. If you look at last year's championship there were five clubs: Loughgiel and Cushendall from the glens, Dunloy, just on the periphery and then St John's and Rossa in the city. There was just a puck of a ball between the five.

"There's a good spread of city and county."

The county hadn't beaten an established hurling county since the first day of the 2012 league when they defeated Wexford.

Much credit for the impetus has gone to former Tipperary goalkeeper Darren Gleeson, who arrived in Antrim to help Tipp manager Liam Sheedy with some coaching sessions and was ultimately offered the manager's job.

"His CV as a player is impressive and he came up here with Liam Sheedy. He did his first year with Neal Peden (Antrim's first director of hurling) and then took over. It's worked really well. I think the boys appreciate his commitment. He's coming up here three times a week from Tipperary.

"So I suppose nobody's complaining about having to come 30 miles to training!

"He appreciates that we've given him the chance to manage an intercounty team. We saw something in him after he'd done his two years up here. He's done a great job and we're very happy with him."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 11, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
McManus has never been a dirty player, not even close, thats a strange question
He's a legend, one of our best and most comitted hurlers ever.

I dont understand the yes man thing either, another strange question
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 12, 2021, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 11, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
McManus has never been a dirty player, not even close, thats a strange question
He's a legend, one of our best and most comitted hurlers ever.

I dont understand the yes man thing either, another strange question
Never saw any dirt in him either the times I saw him play with the Dall.

Not sure about the yes man thing. He likes the media or the media like him, no big deal. IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
A player gets sent off after the final whistle but before extra time begins. He can be replaced by a sub for extra time, correct???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2021, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
A player gets sent off after the final whistle but before extra time begins. He can be replaced by a sub for extra time, correct???

Yes and no I believe if the ref doesn't get the team sheet signed before extra time is played he can be replaced, if team sheet is signed then no..

Don't hold me to that  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 12, 2021, 06:16:35 PM
I never seen Neil pull a dirty stroke either and I've seen him play many times.  I know him personally hes hurling through and through and more importantly a very nice lad.

Great win against Clare a pity its Kilkenny next but going by last Sunday im very confident Antrim will do very well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2021, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
A player gets sent off after the final whistle but before extra time begins. He can be replaced by a sub for extra time, correct???

Yes and no I believe if the ref doesn't get the team sheet signed before extra time is played he can be replaced, if team sheet is signed then no..

Don't hold me to that  ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2021, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
A player gets sent off after the final whistle but before extra time begins. He can be replaced by a sub for extra time, correct???

Yes and no I believe if the ref doesn't get the team sheet signed before extra time is played he can be replaced, if team sheet is signed then no..

Don't hold me to that  ;D

2.6 D ....a player ordered off in any circumstance in normal time may not play in extra time but may be replaced.

This week a referee refused to let a juvenile team play 15 in extra time having sent a player off beforehand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kickham csc on May 13, 2021, 05:00:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2021, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on May 12, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
A player gets sent off after the final whistle but before extra time begins. He can be replaced by a sub for extra time, correct???

Yes and no I believe if the ref doesn't get the team sheet signed before extra time is played he can be replaced, if team sheet is signed then no..

Don't hold me to that  ;D
Is extra time still officially a new game? If so team can start with 15 players in extra time. My team did this back in 2000 and all was grand, except for the result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 07:23:36 AM
That's what I thought but then if it's after the final whistle is it part of the old game or the new game...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on May 13, 2021, 09:02:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.

Correct...gold star
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.

Yeah but does being sent off after the final whistle count as normal time or extra time  ;D I wondered what you were talking about with signing of sheets etc but you are probably right for a change ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.

Yeah but does being sent off after the final whistle count as normal time or extra time  ;D I wondered what you were talking about with signing of sheets etc but you are probably right for a change ;)

Yeah for instance after the final whistle if two lads start punching I can send them off but they may be replaced if its before I signed off the 'new game' if its after I've taken the sheets and signed them then they are red carded and not able to be replaced.

When I'm on the field I'm always right, even when I'm wrong  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 13, 2021, 10:57:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.

Yeah but does being sent off after the final whistle count as normal time or extra time  ;D I wondered what you were talking about with signing of sheets etc but you are probably right for a change ;)

MR2 can correct me, but there's nothing stopping management submitting an entirely new team with players who on who didn't finish the game in ordinary time and it doesn't count as substitutions..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: burdizzo on May 13, 2021, 11:01:42 AM
We had a similar situation in an u15 game here last year. One of our players was sent off, couldn't play the extra time - fair enough. However, we were wondering/ hoping if the extra time, being a 'new game', might count as his suspension time?! Is that pushing it a bit?!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 11:17:22 AM
 ;D

Probably lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on May 13, 2021, 11:01:42 AM
We had a similar situation in an u15 game here last year. One of our players was sent off, couldn't play the extra time - fair enough. However, we were wondering/ hoping if the extra time, being a 'new game', might count as his suspension time?! Is that pushing it a bit?!

That sounds as if you're taking the piss lol.. but it may be the case, though the CCC carry out all that malarkey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2021, 10:57:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 07:45:24 AM
Extra time you can start with 15 players, a player sent off in normal time can't return but can be replaced , all yellows are squashed but notes and black cards follow into extra time.

Yeah but does being sent off after the final whistle count as normal time or extra time  ;D I wondered what you were talking about with signing of sheets etc but you are probably right for a change ;)

MR2 can correct me, but there's nothing stopping management submitting an entirely new team with players who on who didn't finish the game in ordinary time and it doesn't count as substitutions..

I'm nearly sure that's correct, I usually give the rules a good going over coming up to championship, while we all have done our rules tests you get 50 questions and the majority of them are the rules that are these types of questions.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Calm Down on May 13, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
That is correct MR2 from my recollection, however a player who has been dismissed during normal time cannot then play in extra time regardless of a new game or not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 13, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
That is correct MR2 from my recollection, however a player who has been dismissed during normal time cannot then play in extra time regardless of a new game or not

Yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 14, 2021, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 13, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
That is correct MR2 from my recollection, however a player who has been dismissed during normal time cannot then play in extra time regardless of a new game or not

Yes

And that's even if they were dismissed for two yellows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2021, 11:59:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 14, 2021, 09:03:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Calm Down on May 13, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
That is correct MR2 from my recollection, however a player who has been dismissed during normal time cannot then play in extra time regardless of a new game or not

Yes

And that's even if they were dismissed for two yellows.

yeah, Yellow two notes followed by a yellow and a red..

Before the black card rule was changed to a sin bin the black carded player couldn't return for extra time either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 15, 2021, 10:21:48 AM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2021/05/15/saffrons-unchanged-for-their-clash-with-cats/

It could be a tough game tomorrow, especially if the players have to do the drive themselves from Antrim to Kilkenny on the morning of the match. Im looking forward to it tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
Cj lining out for Tyrone hurlers this weekend.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2021, 03:08:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 15, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
Cj lining out for Tyrone hurlers this weekend.

Yeah, he lives in Tyrone so fair play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 16, 2021, 03:40:49 PM
Good performance overall today, we pushed them well, won the 2nd half, a few missed chances to make it closer which is a pity, and gave it away at the back a few times and kilkennys shooting accuracy was very good, but overall a great performance considering it was kilkenny in nowlan park
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 16, 2021, 03:46:04 PM
Indeed. We'd a 15 minute spell in the first half where we gave away a lot of ball, went long too often and were caught out by their running. 2nd half we were very good. Ran the ball, 1st touch was better and passing more accurate. Would be great to take something from the Dublin game which now looks very possible.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2021, 03:58:42 PM
Impressive performance from Antrim

Priceless experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 16, 2021, 04:12:26 PM
When McNaughton is on form like that today he is such a top hurler,
Nugent did well coming off the bench aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2021, 08:50:15 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 17, 2021, 12:24:23 AM
Nugent and Conor Johnson had a big impact off the bench. I'd expect both to start next Sunday. Great performance today.

I must have been watching a different game, both lads did OK when brought in but neither are starters on this team.

Overall good performance, just allowed KK to slip out to handy leads a couple of teams in the game which killed the momentum.

Encouraging stuff though for sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 08:59:48 AM
there are wee mistakes handling wise or whatever that you just don't get away with at this level but playing at this level is exactly what we need to sharpen that up. Forwards lack a bit of ball winning and Nugent helps but also not sure he's a starter. I was impressed by our defense yesterday. I thought Campbell was as good as any of the KK players. Walsh for me is a big plus at full back.

James McNaughton is a hugely gifted hurler. For me if he fills out a bit he could be the next McManus but sometimes lacks physicality.

We are competing at a different level to what I have seen before. We still aren't going to win teh Liam McCarthy but seeing us do so well against these big teams is great. Clare getting beat is interesting too. We need to beat Laois and it would be a nice bonus beating Wexford or Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 17, 2021, 09:45:44 AM
Can't give a team like Kilkenny a easy first half. Some of the lads were a bit star struck and didn't get tore in. Had to spring Nugent as we couldn't make the ball stick on our puck outs. Would like to see the stats on puck outs won. We let Clare win puck outs but dispossessed them very quickly with intense tackles but that was missing yesterday. Most of the switches worked but some subs a bit baffling.
Gerard Walsh take a bow, backed up last week with another great performance he's the real deal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 17, 2021, 10:27:30 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrim-keep-kilkenny-honest-but-cats-class-wins-the-day-1.4566701
"There is belief there, absolutely," said Gleeson. "We just couldn't push on when we got back level. It took an awful effort to get back level. We expended everything you'd need to finish a game out just to claw our way back into it. Kilkenny are champion finishers, that's what they are."

"It wasn't nervousness or anything like that. We just didn't get to the pace of the game. And when you don't work hard, you won't get to the level of the game. From 8-to-15, we didn't get the work-rate we look for. That's it, simple as that. And then in the second half we did. We just have to be consistent in that against the big teams."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 17, 2021, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2021, 08:50:15 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 17, 2021, 12:24:23 AM
Nugent and Conor Johnson had a big impact off the bench. I'd expect both to start next Sunday. Great performance today.

I must have been watching a different game, both lads did OK when brought in but neither are starters on this team.

Overall good performance, just allowed KK to slip out to handy leads a couple of teams in the game which killed the momentum.

Encouraging stuff though for sure.

He is either on the wind or didn't watch the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 17, 2021, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 17, 2021, 12:24:23 AM
Nugent and Conor Johnson had a big impact off the bench. I'd expect both to start next Sunday. Great performance today.

Nugent wouldnt last the full game,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 17, 2021, 03:05:13 PM
I think the front 6 from the last 2 games is probably our best to start on current form. Eoin O'Neill looks like the next one that could push for a starting place.
I would probably have Duffin starting ahead of McMullan in the back line.

Yea good second half and good learning experience. Would be great to beat Dublin, should be a close game. If not then the Laois game will be big
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 17, 2021, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 17, 2021, 03:05:13 PM
I think the front 6 from the last 2 games is probably our best to start on current form. Eoin O'Neill looks like the next one that could push for a starting place.
I would probably have Duffin starting ahead of McMullan in the back line.

Yea good second half and good learning experience. Would be great to beat Dublin, should be a close game. If not then the Laois game will be big

Twice we have given teams a head start. If we can stay neck and neck with Dublin until the last quarter of the game then who knows? I think a little bit of belief was a substantial percentage of the difference on Sunday. Years of not playing at this level impacts on you like this. Regardless, the county hurlers are filling us all with great pride. We couldn't ask any more than what they have done last season and this. Watching us being competitive at this level is beyond my hurling dreams. If we stay up I'm going to party for the rest of the year. Thank you to the hurlers and management team!!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 17, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Its true, Antrim being properly competitive in division 1 is absolutely brilliant, so good to see. Hopefully we'll get another win that should keep us up for next year and build on the experience
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on May 17, 2021, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: Tormund on May 17, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Its true, Antrim being properly competitive in division 1 is absolutely brilliant, so good to see. Hopefully we'll get another win that should keep us up for next year and build on the experience

It is class and was a total joy to watch at times.

Our conditioning has improved so we can hammer into these teams and not snatch at shots as we have the strength to be composed

I like that McManus went for goal with those 2 frees....rip into them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on May 18, 2021, 03:21:54 PM
Not sure about the Nugent/Johnston comment. Nugent don't a job when he came on but for me stays a sub. Johnston setup a point but other than that I didn't see much else.

Not sure what Damon done wrong against KK, to me the danger man was in the other corner (bergin) who rooney was marking and although difficult still think full back line at present is strongest its been.

Walsh at #3 has been a great rotation and offers more pace to cover the faster forwards in div 1.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Crikeyboys on May 21, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2021, 08:59:48 AM
there are wee mistakes handling wise or whatever that you just don't get away with at this level but playing at this level is exactly what we need to sharpen that up. Forwards lack a bit of ball winning and Nugent helps but also not sure he's a starter. I was impressed by our defense yesterday. I thought Campbell was as good as any of the KK players. Walsh for me is a big plus at full back.

James McNaughton is a hugely gifted hurler. For me if he fills out a bit he could be the next McManus but sometimes lacks physicality.

We are competing at a different level to what I have seen before. We still aren't going to win teh Liam McCarthy but seeing us do so well against these big teams is great. Clare getting beat is interesting too. We need to beat Laois and it would be a nice bonus beating Wexford or Dublin.

Well summed up ITG, wouldn't  call them "wee", too much fumbling and dropping the ball etc. A lack of concentration on the ball and too much shadowing the man. Batting down the ball is a no no these days as is too much delay in roll lifting. Ground hurling is also a thing of the past, unless well directed. Second to the ball is just no good. That said fitness and confidence are the best we've seen in years. Maith go leor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2021, 05:44:17 PM
We are all over the show here, midfield is getting cleaned out on the puck outs, lost 4 or 4 in a row

Nail is having a blinder, but we missing some easy scores, and the touch is poor.

Hopefully the second half with the wind behind us we'll come back at them, after the water break we could not score!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 06:40:48 PM
Only saw the second half. Disappointing. Dublin too many big men, too physical and too able to win their own ball for us. Some promising glimpses of play from time to time but definitely a bit off that pace just yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2021, 06:41:06 PM
That was disappointing, very impressed by Dublin. No need to keep giving these teams big leads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 22, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2021, 06:41:06 PM
That was disappointing, very impressed by Dublin. No need to keep giving these teams big leads

Dublin full back line just ate up all those high balls in on top of them. Our touch very poor at times too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 06:45:10 PM
We have always had some skilful forwards but when it comes to the better teams our ff line struggles to win it's own ball. Been the same for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 22, 2021, 06:55:17 PM
Nugent not in good enough condition
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2021, 07:07:43 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on May 22, 2021, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2021, 06:41:06 PM
That was disappointing, very impressed by Dublin. No need to keep giving these teams big leads

Dublin full back line just ate up all those high balls in on top of them. Our touch very poor at times too.

Thought O Callaghan was MOTM
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 22, 2021, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 06:45:10 PM
We have always had some skilful forwards but when it comes to the better teams our ff line struggles to win it's own ball. Been the same for years.

We definitely are lacking in the air and 50/50 balls except for Mc Kenna, he's a quality hurler and doesn't look out of place in that company
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 22, 2021, 07:11:09 PM
Dissapointing, poor first half again but dublin were the better team. We missed some decent chances, should probably keep mcnaughton on the frees, clarke missed a few handy ones, and nugent didnt have enough pace in 1st half.
We nearly always seem to lose out on the pick ups, rucks. Dublin players are more athletic aswell. The last game against laois will be important, hopefully clare will beat them tomoro i was reading clare are missing 2 players with covid close contacts, hopefully tony kelly isnt one of them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on May 22, 2021, 07:19:17 PM
Work in progress. Let's keep the good vibe going and more importantly hard work. County fully behind the efforts of Darran and our hurlers. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2021, 07:22:30 PM
Antrim need this kind of top level experience to develop and achieve their potential.
They should be able to beat Laois.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 07:55:03 PM
We haven't declined.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 22, 2021, 08:01:38 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 22, 2021, 07:26:43 PM
That was shocking. 2nd gear Dublin made Donal Ogs comments understandable now. A few lads so far off the pcd and condition required for that level it's unbelievable. We were closer to Dublin in 2018. Why have we declined again?
Wouldn't say a one-off match within 2 weeks of everyone thinking Antrim are the best thing since sliced bread is a decline. It's a reality check. Consistency is key when playing at the top but they haven't turned into a bad team since the KK or Clare matches.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 22, 2021, 08:02:02 PM
I didnt think dublin were in 2nd gear, they played well.
It was dissapointing but yea lets keep behind the team, it was always gona be tough at this level and we stayed with them, we still have a great chance to stay in div 1 for next year, 2 home games next.
I thought walsh and elliot were very good. I thought johnston helped the ff line when he came on aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 08:10:27 PM
Johnston very sharp I thought too. It's one game. We are not going to be able to compete at this level week in week out overnight - that's not how it works. We need a few years at it and anything we get off these bigger teams is a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 22, 2021, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 22, 2021, 07:55:03 PM
We haven't declined.
Agreed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on May 22, 2021, 08:39:12 PM
Let's keep it positive. If there was an All Ireland for negativity we would have it wrapped long ago. Whether it's football or hurling that needs to change. Darren needs to know we are behind him fully. We mightn't win many matches in Div 1, but if we can get reasonably competitive that's a big start in my book. Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2021, 08:48:18 PM
We will be able to support them in person for next two home games, or at least 500 will. Don't know how that will be worked out but I would love to see our hurlers and footballers over the next few weeks
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2021, 09:01:39 PM
Just finished watching the game, we hurled better second half, we can't compete on puck outs against the physical teams, Dublin, Kilkenny will have that over us, disappointed that we didn't hoover up some breaking balls and missed more frees than we normally do, that and a few more sessions and games we will e a lot closer to them come championship.

Dublin are at that standard, I actually don't see them improving much more and we have a lot more in our locker.

Thought Conor was great when he came on, he was able to pick up the breaks and convert or play the ball.

We'd some of our stand out players playing below par today also and our positions could be different, maybe that was a plan as we meet them in Championship  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2021, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 22, 2021, 09:17:38 PM
We more than a few who just won't cut it at that level. Thank god for the performances of Johnson, Walsh and Elliot. It's a bit of a wake all call. Two defeats on the bounce and we let teams blow us away always in the first 20.
My point was in 2018 we lost by a point away to Galway and were robbed at home against Dublin. We were playing much better hurling that season.

I was at the game v Dublin we were not robbed, this team is better conditioned than that 2018 team, in fact we are getting closer to the team Dinny first had. Our level had dropped since Dinny and we've only (in my view) started to come back to that competitive level.

I remember thinking a good few years ago we were getting better and some performances were decent, then went to loughgiel to watch us v Limerick, they weren't close to being good and they hammered us!

I think we'll take more from that game going into the championship, I still think we've a couple or 3 players still able to improve that squad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 22, 2021, 09:56:38 PM
Two defeats on the bounce and we let teams blow us away always in the first 20.

We were one behind after 20mins today 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 23, 2021, 10:19:14 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 23, 2021, 08:35:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2021, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 22, 2021, 09:17:38 PM
We more than a few who just won't cut it at that level. Thank god for the performances of Johnson, Walsh and Elliot. It's a bit of a wake all call. Two defeats on the bounce and we let teams blow us away always in the first 20.
My point was in 2018 we lost by a point away to Galway and were robbed at home against Dublin. We were playing much better hurling that season.

I was at the game v Dublin we were not robbed, this team is better conditioned than that 2018 team, in fact we are getting closer to the team Dinny first had. Our level had dropped since Dinny and we've only (in my view) started to come back to that competitive level.

I remember thinking a good few years ago we were getting better and some performances were decent, then went to loughgiel to watch us v Limerick, they weren't close to being good and they hammered us!

I think we'll take more from that game going into the championship, I still think we've a couple or 3 players still able to improve that squad

Bs! We were much closer to a better Dublin team in 18', fact! Dublin blew holes in us yesterday, if not for the keeper RE we would have love by 15+

Exactly the kinda positivity we need good man!

We came up last year, everyone told us the step up would be too much for us, our lads have stepped up and are working their arse off to compete at this level, we stay up this year it's a massive massive achievement. Most of these lads are finding their feet at this level give them a chance fs, stay up and build on it next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on May 23, 2021, 10:34:19 AM
That's correct. Save the judgement and analysis until the end of the league campaign. If we stay up - that's a big success. We have beaten Clare, went toe to toe with Kilkenny, both of which heightened expectation going into yesterday's game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 23, 2021, 12:25:25 PM
I'm not being negative. I love this team. But we need to stop letting teams get ahead of us. We are showing them too much respect. Against wexford we need to be in their faces from the start. Fitzy will have them up for it and we have to match their aggression but getting stuck into them from the start and dying with our boots on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 12:42:23 PM
They got ahead of us because they're better than us.  Wexford game a bonus. Laois is the main game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2021, 04:28:03 PM
Wexford are an established senior team, we've been in the lower leagues and a bit of a yo-yo county, Wexford have won their two games and will come to us after playing (Kilkenny) very much fancied.

If we match them for work rate then I'm happy with that, we'll need to improve on last game v Dublin but that's a 6 day turnaround from the Kilkenny game then yo meet a physically bigger unit in Dublin, a lot of hits, the rest will do us well and if Wexford play next week it'll work better for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 04:58:27 PM
Exactly. A win against Wexford is a massive bonus- being competitive and continuing to improve/ learning some lessons is what we want to show.

One thing I would say though is Dublin seemed to play a sweeper. We seem to struggle in the forward line when a sweeper is in there. I would definitely like to see better ideas there.

Mr I see your old club man banged in a few for Tyrone yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2021, 05:30:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 04:58:27 PM
Exactly. A win against Wexford is a massive bonus- being competitive and continuing to improve/ learning some lessons is what we want to show.

One thing I would say though is Dublin seemed to play a sweeper. We seem to struggle in the forward line when a sweeper is in there. I would definitely like to see better ideas there.

Mr I see your old club man banged in a few for Tyrone yesterday.

Seen that, he'll do well enough on that team, there are a couple of decent hurlers there in front of him, but he'll find his feet quickly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Crikeyboys on May 23, 2021, 06:23:40 PM
Antrim have no ball winners, very poor ball control and reactions too slow for this level. They never seen to win any shemozzells. They are incredibly easy to disposess. Some of these players have not produced over the three games and should not be persisted with. Much to hope for but we shouldn't get carried away. Its to be hoped Gleeson doesn't develop any teachers pets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2021, 07:53:08 PM
Jaysus we should just give up reading that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 23, 2021, 07:57:44 PM
I think we've made good progress in general. After the Clare game I felt like we were on a crest of a wave. The last two games have been very underwhelming. We need to stand up to this teams and not give them an inch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 23, 2021, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: Crikeyboys on May 23, 2021, 06:23:40 PM
Antrim have no ball winners, very poor ball control and reactions too slow for this level. They never seen to win any shemozzells. They are incredibly easy to disposess. Some of these players have not produced over the three games and should not be persisted with. Much to hope for but we shouldn't get carried away. Its to be hoped Gleeson doesn't develop any teachers pets.
Just a bit over the top there on slagging the team! If u think they're so bad then dont watch them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 24, 2021, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 23, 2021, 07:57:44 PM
I think we've made good progress in general. After the Clare game I felt like we were on a crest of a wave. The last two games have been very underwhelming. We need to stand up to this teams and not give them an inch.

Feck, you're a tough crowd to please.

These lads have been languishing in the second tier for the last few years so getting a run at the likes of Clare, the Dubs and Kilkenny with a huge rise in standards between these leagues is going to take some time to adjust for a lot of the players.

Yes, the physicality is yet another huge step up but with the right commitment and planning they'll get there, maybe not this year but you need to have a dose of reality as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2021, 11:26:55 AM
Exactly. Look at the trimmings Westmeath are taking. We're doing well and it's year one hopefully of many more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2021, 01:46:22 PM
Ah sorry. I must have misread the two beatings they took apart from that match :o

Sure we beat Clare so judge us on that match then?

F**k me we got a good beating at the weekend and we might as well give up. Yeah dead on. Everyone knows we need a lot of work to compete at this level but we're moving the right direction. Anyone who thinks we are going to come into division 1 and suddenly be competing week in week out is living in cloud cuckoo land. We did well to beat Clare, we didn't do too bad against Kilkenny despite what you say and a much more physical team in Dublin gave us a half decent(8 point yes not 30+ point) beating.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on May 24, 2021, 02:29:10 PM
Tough crowd here indeed.

1. We aren't going to win the league nor win the Liam McCarthy. (Glad that's wrapped up)

Its all about progression! How to we measure that?

Laois & westmeath are the teams in div 1 also prev joe mcdonagh in recent years who we've competed against.

Westmeath 0pts & -66 score difference
Laois 0pts & -40 score difference
Antrim 2pts & -13 score difference.

We are doing okay guys! Let's focus on securing div 1 & keeping up the performances. Then next year and the year after that we can really start trying to overtake the Dublin/Wexford/clare etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 24, 2021, 02:54:53 PM
Christ one half of a season back at the top level and already we have folk moaning about how we aren't good enough. i can assure you that the lads were bitterly disappointed following the game against Dublin from chatting to a few of them. They felt they let themselves down and didnt play well at all. That says more to me of the high standard they set for themselves and where they want to be going.

Antrim have spent years trying to get themselves into a shape to be able to deserve to be in Division 1 and so far they have done better than any of us probably would of imagined. No one would of predicted that we would have one win from any of those first three games so we are in a better position that we all expected.

A successful outcome is for Antrim still to be in this league for next season and continue to develop and improve our top players so they are able to step up another level the following season.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 24, 2021, 04:06:25 PM
Antrim are progressing well. I still think Donal Ógs comments were fair and accurate(lets lose the chips lads). Beat Laois secure position and build. We are in big diffs in Derry atm in league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 24, 2021, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 24, 2021, 04:06:25 PM
Antrim are progressing well. I still think Donal Ógs comments were fair and accurate(lets lose the chips lads). Beat Laois secure position and build. We are in big diffs in Derry atm in league

What's happened there Fear?

I'd have said Derry with a full compliment are a good bit better than Down on the day.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 24, 2021, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 24, 2021, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 24, 2021, 04:06:25 PM
Antrim are progressing well. I still think Donal Ógs comments were fair and accurate(lets lose the chips lads). Beat Laois secure position and build. We are in big diffs in Derry atm in league

What's happened there Fear?

I'd have said Derry with a full compliment are a good bit better than Down on the day.

Thats it, they havent their best out but the still have a really good team on paper that should maybe being doing better, caught on the hop by Mayo, no challenge games, rusty, shite day. Kildare physicality blew them away. Down flying. We will struggle to beat Donegal who have a real dislike of anything coming out of Derry, id hate to go down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 24, 2021, 07:22:16 PM
I think the management have done a good job with this team. I believe we are in with a real shout of taking a scalp off Wexford at Corrigan. I think the acid test of how far we've come will be the Laois game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2021, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 24, 2021, 07:22:16 PM
I think the management have done a good job with this team. I believe we are in with a real shout of taking a scalp off Wexford at Corrigan. I think the acid test of how far we've come will be the Laois game.

When was the last time we beat Laois? Wexford hammered them this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 24, 2021, 08:42:36 PM
They've definitely had the upper hand this last few years. I'd be hoping this year will be different. Must win game really. Tbh I'm not even sure how relegation works. Is it two down or one down?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 09:01:59 PM
Bottom teams in 1A and 1B play off, loser goes back to Div 2 next season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2021, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 09:01:59 PM
Bottom teams in 1A and 1B play off, loser goes back to Div 2 next season.

Is it head to heads first then points difference?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2021, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2021, 09:07:18 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 09:01:59 PM
Bottom teams in 1A and 1B play off, loser goes back to Div 2 next season.

Is it head to heads first then points difference?
Antrim have a 27 point advantage over Laois at the moment.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/results/gaa/2021/6227/tables/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 24, 2021, 10:11:28 PM
If Laois beat Antrim and we are both on two points then head to head will mean we play Westmeath
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 24, 2021, 10:51:13 PM
Yes head to head first, so if we don't get something off Wexford it's a huge game fir Laois, a chance to avoid the relegation play off. TBH I think we are a different level than Laois now, especially at home with 500 supporters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 24, 2021, 11:10:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 24, 2021, 10:11:28 PM
If Laois beat Antrim and we are both on two points then head to head will mean we play Westmeath
I think another possible scenario is if clare didnt win any of their last 2 games, and laois beat us, we would all have 2 points and in that case i think its points difference between the three teams and we have a good points difference over laois at this time. Of course thats just one scenario, clare might get another win.
And the main thing is that hopefully we should beat laois. They seem to be fading in the 2nd half of their games this season and we have been strong in the 2nd half of our games. But it will still be a tough game. 2 wins would be a great return from this season in div 1
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 24, 2021, 11:24:53 PM
ATM if I'm going with my head Wexford will beat Antrim , hopefully yous will beat Laois , more than capable
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 12:18:26 AM
If we beat wexford are we in with a shout of a league final still?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 25, 2021, 08:16:15 AM
There is no league final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2021, 08:30:09 AM
Think Dublin showed us our level in this one unfortunately.

We are still in that zone really, too good for Joe Mc and not quite at the level for the McCarthy.

Tactically we got it wrong and didnt play through the lines enough, Liam Rushe killed us sweeping up any loose long balls. Hopefully it is a learning session for the lads for later in the year, but we struggled so badly on the left side of the defence and it was difficult to recover that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2021, 08:48:25 AM
Is Ronan Molloy in the panel? I thought he was about Dunloy's best player in the championship last year and worth some gametime. For me Walsh has been a great find in full back and definitely needs to be kept there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 25, 2021, 08:54:20 AM
No he isn't with the panel this year. he wasn't included in the panel for the final and decided that would do him.

Personally i cant understand that as he was the best defender in our panel last year and will only get better. He's still young and has many more years ahead of him so hopefully down the line he will be in the antrim squad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2021, 09:01:52 AM
Yeah I thought he was superb for you last year. If McManus is needed in forwards him to rhb, Campbell to midfield and McManus up front would have been good. Pity but not much you can do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

Who you putting in at fullback?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

f**k, statements like this belong to the 80's. No point having a full forward line of Christy Ring, DJ Carey and Henry Shefflin when you don't have a good fullback.

There's a reason Galway finally won an AI with Daithi Burke in at fullback even though he was one of their most influential midfielders..

He shut up shop..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 25, 2021, 09:52:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

f**k, statements like this belong to the 80's. No point having a full forward line of Christy Ring, DJ Carey and Henry Shefflin when you don't have a good fullback.

There's a reason Galway finally won an AI with Daithi Burke in at fullback even though he was one of their most influential midfielders..

He shut up shop..

Agree with htis, nobody has ever done anything without an effective number 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 10:11:21 AM
Not much an effective three can do when your half back line is getting cleaned out. I thought Matty Donnelly was first class in there last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2021, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 10:11:21 AM
Not much an effective three can do when your half back line is getting cleaned out. I thought Matty Donnelly was first class in there last year.

Horses for courses with big Matty.

You'll not get many bustling type full forwards in Div1 and the lack of a yard of pace is curtains at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 25, 2021, 10:32:00 AM
Without being disrespectful we had a real problem last year in the full back line last year and shipped a lot of goals at Joe Mc Donagh level so fair play to management for addressing it. The problem here is we are now missing Walsh's influence in the half backs but it had to be done. Agreed that the long ball tactic on Saturday didn't work but when you see how industrious and physical Dublin where in the middle third and see the logic prior to match. Opposition have copped on we are not to hot on even Winning our own puck outs but overturn to ball or try and win the breaks. Dublin cancelled this out on Saturday and dominated. If you commit players to ruts to overturn possession and don't then you have a lot of their players in space. We need everyone fully committed in the tackles and some of our players are not. Still lots of positives and div1 is going to bring them on so let's hope they stay up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 25, 2021, 12:50:53 PM
I thought Walsh has been fantastic at 3 in all the games so far, stand out player in the team.

Problem lies further out, we need to work the ball out as we dont have any ball winners in Midfield or half forward line, so teams now know to push up on us and cut the short puc out out. How many times did Joe getting turned over trying to work the ball out.

RM fell into that bracket where he was with the county set up not getting games and missing games back with his club when he needs hurling. IMO lacks the pace required at the very top level, maybe I'm wrong but if Dunloy were full out last year he wouldnt  have been an automatic starter there either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on May 25, 2021, 06:04:02 PM
It's a process. They have to learn
Where will they be in 2 or 3 years?

Sunday is about learning

Aontroim abú.


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/antrim-realistic-about-prospects-as-dublin-quench-their-flame-1.4572690?mode=amp
Gleeson was more into specifics.

"We weren't winning primary possession, we weren't winning breaking ball, we were poor at tracking runs," he observed. "You put the three of those into the mixer and you're going to have a bad day. That's what today was. But it's not panic stations, it's a learning day."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2021, 08:56:11 AM
What's the story with Seaan Elliot? Is he injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 09:02:36 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 26, 2021, 08:56:11 AM
What's the story with Seaan Elliot? Is he injured?

Seen him last week up in Dunloy, looked like a hand/arm injury
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on May 26, 2021, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 26, 2021, 08:56:11 AM
What's the story with Seaan Elliot? Is he injured?

Fell on his hand at training and broke the thumb, is still a bit away from being able to play again but a few more weeks will do him well in terms of it recovering.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2021, 10:04:49 AM
Is he with the county?

(I just was scanning the loughgiel dunloy u20 report and was thinking he would still be u20 but I'm not 100% sure on his age so maybe not)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 26, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
I think he was in the squad for the start of the div 1 campaign. Pity he's injured. Id like to see him get some game time for antrim, looks a real prospect
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: Tormund on May 26, 2021, 10:35:23 AM
I think he was in the squad for the start of the div 1 campaign. Pity he's injured. Id like to see him get some game time for antrim, looks a real prospect

He'll need to fill out a bit more for that division
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

Who you putting in at fullback?

Any ideas yet?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 26, 2021, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

Who you putting in at fullback?

Any ideas yet?

Matty Donnelly all day long. Best number 3 in Ulster.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2021, 09:01:52 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 26, 2021, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 26, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: groundlie on May 25, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Id rather walsh at half back. He's wasted in full back. A half back like of molloy mcmanus and walsh would be ideal.

Who you putting in at fullback?

Any ideas yet?

Matty Donnelly all day long. Best number 3 in Ulster.

He isnt even the best full back in North Antrim.

He was a fine option playing in Div 2 when it was a physical contest in that area and was a battle.

Div 1 isnt played in that style and we would get ate alive with him in there. All any team would have to do is isolate him in there and game over. Not doing him down but the one thing you need above all else in the modern game is pace and it is lacking in his case, not his fault but that's just way it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
Out of interest who is? Martin Burke?

Unfortunately I would agree with you on bits about Donnelly. I actually think rather than his size his distribution is maybe his biggest asset.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 27, 2021, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
Out of interest who is? Martin Burke?

Unfortunately I would agree with you on bits about Donnelly. I actually think rather than his size his distribution is maybe his biggest asset.

MB definitely a good shout, Woody in Dunloy IMO still would be ahead of him in terms of what is required for inter county.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 27, 2021, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
Out of interest who is? Martin Burke?

Unfortunately I would agree with you on bits about Donnelly. I actually think rather than his size his distribution is maybe his biggest asset.

I've always believed that you'd get away with not having that yard of pace as a centre back rather than a full back or indeed corner back as reading of the game is paramount in there and can get you out of trouble.
Gary O'Kane was never blessed with pace but he was some centre back. Brian Hogan of Kilkenny with a pocket load of AI medals wasn't blessed with pace either.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 11:08:55 AM
Yeah I would agree. Same in football tbh. I was wondering where Donnelly played for Ballycastle. He's a very good distributor of the ball so might be worth a blast at 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on May 27, 2021, 02:18:33 PM
Considering a lot of county players who haven't had much pitch time played for their clubs this week - I do wonder what your point is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2021, 02:30:48 PM
They are playing plenty of county games. Not sure it is a problem. They need a break. There are subs playing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 04:32:19 PM
Cop yourself on Milltown Row.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on May 27, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
Groundlie

Can you please confirm which players who aren't getting game time for the county aren't being allowed to play for their clubs?

This past week we seen:
Matty donnelly & ryan mc cambridge for B/C & Cdall
Johnstons, shea shannon possibly another few for st johns
Eoin o'neill, nicky mckeague, aaron crawford, duffin, again maybe more for dunloy
Niall o'connor for st endas
Dan & Declan McCloskey loughuile

Plenty players still togging out for their clubs and getting pitch time....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 04:32:19 PM
Cop yourself on Milltown Row.

Ok, what is it you want? You want a player training club county in successive games Saturday Sunday and still want results against Kilkenny Dublin Wexford and Laois?

🤔
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

I thought id read that there was promotion as long as over 70% of the games in the league were completed? might have read it wrong but thought that there was promotion but no relegation
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:30:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

I thought id read that there was promotion as long as over 70% of the games in the league were completed? might have read it wrong but thought that there was promotion but no relegation

Have you a link to that? I was told start of season that there was no promotion relegation, I could be wrong, heard a manager roaring at his players about promotion at half time. Who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on May 28, 2021, 11:36:08 AM
Fairly certain there is promotion from Div4 for example
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:30:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

I thought id read that there was promotion as long as over 70% of the games in the league were completed? might have read it wrong but thought that there was promotion but no relegation

Have you a link to that? I was told start of season that there was no promotion relegation, I could be wrong, heard a manager roaring at his players about promotion at half time. Who knows

Havent a link but il see if ive a way of attaching a screenshot, was on the final league draft, def said winners promoted, no relegation and it was subject to % of games completed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:30:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

I thought id read that there was promotion as long as over 70% of the games in the league were completed? might have read it wrong but thought that there was promotion but no relegation

Have you a link to that? I was told start of season that there was no promotion relegation, I could be wrong, heard a manager roaring at his players about promotion at half time. Who knows

Havent a link but il see if ive a way of attaching a screenshot, was on the final league draft, def said winners promoted, no relegation and it was subject to % of games completed.

So if winners are promoted will the leagues the following year have extra teams or has it been fixed that the leagues this year allow just promotion?  Confused
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 12:07:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2021, 11:30:58 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 28, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2021, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on May 27, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
I must say what is Gleeson playing at? Keeping back county players who get no minutes at all away from playing for their clubs. Disgrace.

There is no relegation or promotion this year, we have been blessed that the clubs are up and running, speaking to managers and coaches these past few weeks its been great to hear they are playing players that wouldn't normally be in their top 15 and allows them to have a look at possible first 15 players or options off the bench.

If  a player is feeling he's missing out he should really opt out off the panel and concentrate on his clubs non promotion winning or relegation games.

I thought id read that there was promotion as long as over 70% of the games in the league were completed? might have read it wrong but thought that there was promotion but no relegation

Have you a link to that? I was told start of season that there was no promotion relegation, I could be wrong, heard a manager roaring at his players about promotion at half time. Who knows

Havent a link but il see if ive a way of attaching a screenshot, was on the final league draft, def said winners promoted, no relegation and it was subject to % of games completed.

So if winners are promoted will the leagues the following year have extra teams or has it been fixed that the leagues this year allow just promotion?  Confused

Yeah by the looks of things it'll be an extra team up a division next year, I think its fair enough. there's teams who may have been relegated the year before last and want to try bounce back etc I think 2 seasons without promotion is too much but obviously to get the leagues played teams have to play without county players so its fair enough no relegation, prob not ideal but I think its a fair enough solution. probably should have done 2 up just to even the numbers but it is what it is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on May 28, 2021, 07:34:41 PM
Antrim v down on ulster gaa facebook page, a chance to look at some squad players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 02, 2021, 12:33:02 PM
How's tickets working for Saturdays game vs Wexford? Can't imagine them going on general sale with only 500 allowed in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 02, 2021, 12:52:07 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 02, 2021, 12:33:02 PM
How's tickets working for Saturdays game vs Wexford? Can't imagine them going on general sale with only 500 allowed in

100 are going to player's and Antrim admin etc, 400 going out to clubs. My club doesn't know how many there gonna get as off yet. You better to contact your secretary and put your name down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 11:44:07 AM
Lee Chin named on the bench for wexford, hopefully he stays on the bench

Havent seen the antrim team yet, read in the irish news that bradley and mccann are out with johnston and eoin oneill coming in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2021, 12:28:24 PM
Wexford have been poor enough until chin comes on and he seems to raise them a level. Big , but not Impossible, challenge for us. Unfortunately I won't get to see it. Come on Antrim!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 05, 2021, 12:41:33 PM
For the majority that won't get to see it live in person, our game is live on TG4
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 01:28:46 PM
Wexford have been taking a lot of stick the last week, id say they'll be up for it. But Chin not starting is a good plus for us. And most of our players have had 2 weeks off and should be right up for it aswell, will be tough but if we play our best we could do it. C'mon the saffs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2021, 03:17:54 PM
Not looking good. Again we have no idea what to do against a sweeper.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 03:21:15 PM
Wexford much more slicker moving faster. Antrim playing long diagnol ball into a corner where its one vs two madness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 03:34:52 PM
Playing much better now their settling James McNaughton outstanding.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 03:42:43 PM
Antrim playing really well after an awful start. What was the free in for after that brilliant tackle by our number 4? Wee Davey animated on the sideline as usal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2021, 03:50:46 PM
I think probably too big an ask to win this but playing pretty well now. Still a wee bit of learning required at this level I think but definitely doing well too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 03:51:50 PM
The ref is shocking, giving us nothing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:05:52 PM
Lee Chin has been blocked and hooked twice that will take away a players confidance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:07:32 PM
Rebel songs at half time fire our boys up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2021, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 03:51:50 PM
The ref is shocking, giving us nothing

In fairness he is giving us everything now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:09:36 PM
This game very winnable boys.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 04:14:40 PM
Wexford red card. Getting interesting.
Hon Antrim
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:19:34 PM
Using the ball very well at the moment their growing in confidence hopefully the water break doesn't swing momentum.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 04:20:05 PM
Level at the water break
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:22:17 PM
What a buttery free ref Jesus!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2021, 04:26:04 PM
Great fight. Come on Antrim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: dublin7 on June 05, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
Cracking game and real bite to it in the 2nd half

Harsh red card for Wexford. Antrim should be down to 14 men as well. Neil McManus should have got a 2nd yellow fora dangerous tackle on a Wexford player picking up the ball. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:32:14 PM
Antrim hurling wild well need something from this game. Exquisite pass by McManus for the goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 05, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
Cracking game and real bite to it in the 2nd half

Harsh red card for Wexford. Antrim should be down to 14 men as well. Neil McManus should have got a 2nd yellow fora dangerous tackle on a Wexford player picking up the ball.
He hor the red card for a second yellow
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 04:39:15 PM
9 mins ET
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 04:46:11 PM
Blatant free to Antrim on the puck out holding the hurl deserved draw at the very least should have had another goal. Niall McKenna a graceful hurler.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
Great result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: dublin7 on June 05, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on June 05, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
Cracking game and real bite to it in the 2nd half

Harsh red card for Wexford. Antrim should be down to 14 men as well. Neil McManus should have got a 2nd yellow fora dangerous tackle on a Wexford player picking up the ball.
He hor the red card for a second yellow

He got his 2nd yellow for a nothing foul after that incident. Draw was probably a fair result in the end. Where the ref got 10 min injury time is beyond me

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2021, 04:52:18 PM
Does your heart good , listening to RTE radio, as out officiating, great game and great confidence in not  folding when a point down near the end..

Four points keeps us up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2021, 04:57:44 PM
Probably would have won that 15 v 14
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 05:04:03 PM
Unmatchable experience .

Antrim got 3/6 points off the second rank counties. That shows around where they are in the first year after promotion. A bit like Leeds Utd.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 05:09:32 PM
What a game, so glad we got something from it!! I wouldve been gutted if we hadve lost that game!! The lads were brilliant and did us proud. I thought mcmanus' 2nd yellow was ridiculous. And right at the end of 1st half they got a point from a free when rooney made an amazing tackle. Yea if it hada stayed 15 v 14 we prob wuda won, but so glad we got a draw from it.
If kk beat laois tomorrow then thats us staying in div 1 for next year

Mcnaughton and Molloy were outstanding, walsh and mcmanus brilliant, the team did us proud
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 05:11:40 PM
Darren Gleeson very classy man were lucky to have him. I meant to mention young Molloy was outstanding actually strong all over the field and the bench. Just listened to Darran after the game and the first thing he mentioned was things they need to work on. Sign of a good manager. You could see the adjustments he made after the Dublin game. We even started fixing our line balls during that second half very important.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 05, 2021, 05:13:02 PM
Niall mckenna aswell, what a player.
Yea gleeson is a top manager, hope he stays with us for another few years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
That tackle by Rooney was incredible! one of the finest skills in hurling. Even the commentators were in shock at the free given against him. Wee Davey would have been expecting to win that game privately he had a strong team out. He was trying to be positive for the post match interview but he has a lot to think about.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 06:15:13 PM
https://youtu.be/yoGyQzTl1l8

A wee bit scunnered we didn't win on hindsight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2021, 06:39:57 PM
Point a fair result, we could have lost by a point and how gutting would that have been!

Wexford came at this like a cship match too, so very obviously terrific progress has been made.

My MOM was probably Niall Mc Kenna. What a performance from him. Well done all involved, another very good days work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
That tackle by Rooney was incredible! one of the finest skills in hurling. Even the commentators were in shock at the free given against him. Wee Davey would have been expecting to win that game privately he had a strong team out. He was trying to be positive for the post match interview but he has a lot to think about.
Antrim were better than he expected. It reminds me of a line from.Flower of Scotland

"And sent him.home to think again".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 07:41:29 PM
Talk about songs I was delighted to hear Thomas Davis " A Nation once again " coming through the speakers at half time it really adds to the occasion Seafoid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 07:41:29 PM
Talk about songs I was delighted to hear Thomas Davis " A Nation once again " coming through the speakers at half time it really adds to the occasion Seafoid.
That must have been something else. Poor old NI is a bit trína chéile at the moment on the 100th anniversary .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2021, 10:39:32 PM
Not a day for picking out individuals. Every starting player left it out there, every sub had a significant impact, management are 1st class, a squad effort in every sense!!

It's a wonderful feeling being an Antrim fan today. If any of our county players/managers/coaches are looking in  -  GO RAIBH MILE  MAITH AGAT!!!

Aontroim Abú
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 06, 2021, 05:17:01 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2021, 10:39:32 PM
Not a day for picking out individuals. Every starting player left it out there, every sub had a significant impact, management are 1st class, a squad effort in every sense!!

It's a wonderful feeling being an Antrim fan today. If any of our county players/managers/coaches are looking in  -  GO RAIBH MILE  MAITH AGAT!!!

Aontroim Abú

Agreed. Unbelievable!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 06, 2021, 01:21:41 PM
What a performance. Well done to all involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2021, 02:37:14 PM
It's looking like kk will dispose of Laois easy enough so we should stay up no matter what. (Even if we beat Laois I still think they would beat Westmeath in the playoff).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 06, 2021, 02:48:39 PM
So we are now safe in Div 1 with a round of matches still to go. We really have moved up another level over this last year. Yesterday was one of the best days watching an Antrim match, either code. Well done to everyone involved and that's a hell of a lot of people
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 06, 2021, 05:47:38 PM
It would be great to see another Antrim Allstar
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 06, 2021, 08:06:06 PM
Absolutely, but there's some competition out there.  All Stars are harder to win now than ever. Tony Kelly scored 20 points yesterday for Clare against a team that beat us. Will be get one? That's the standard. A rising tide lifts all boats, if we can keep on this progressive curve, who knows. That would be something very very special indeed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2021, 08:30:57 PM
Less matches this year but as per any year it's the championship that counts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 07, 2021, 12:56:53 AM
One aspect from Antrims play yesterday was their ability to change approach very quickly when something they were trying wasn't working out. A spell in the first half they played 3 lovely diagnol balls into the corner flag. Normally that would work if you had the numbers but it looked like we were playing 2 inside forwards. They were up against 3 full backs a keeper and a sweeper so 5 vs 2. We surrendered possession easy in them circumstances.  But then there was a piece of play where Antrim adjusted and instead of playing diagonal ball in they played the ball the width of the field back and forward till an opportunity opened up and after several passes found McNaughton to put it over the bar. It was almost like Dublin in the football. I knew after that point that Antrim could win this game. That comes down to good coaching.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 07, 2021, 08:30:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 05, 2021, 07:12:22 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 05, 2021, 05:16:39 PM
That tackle by Rooney was incredible! one of the finest skills in hurling. Even the commentators were in shock at the free given against him. Wee Davey would have been expecting to win that game privately he had a strong team out. He was trying to be positive for the post match interview but he has a lot to think about.
Antrim were better than he expected. It reminds me of a line from.Flower of Scotland

"And sent him.home to think again".

You'd have thought he'd have spoken to his Da since there was a good chance he was up with the Clare team..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 07, 2021, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: groundlie on June 06, 2021, 08:54:36 PM
I agree and at the moment Walsh, Malloy, Jimmy Mac and Ryan E are shoe ins for all stars.

Nominations?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 09:08:20 AM
That was a tight one for Derry yesterday Fear. Looked like a decent comeback from Donegal. Disappointing Down result too - had hoped they would put it up to Offaly but Offaly if they get the finger out are probably decent enough.

We need to progress in the the championship to get all star nominations never mind all stars so I suspect it would be very hard for us to get anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 07, 2021, 09:18:52 AM
I wouldnt care we never got an All Star as long as the team keeps going the way they are.

Some top performances, Walsh again top class at full back, Niall McKenna outstanding.

We were very lucky to stay with 15 men on the pitch NMcM probably could and should have gone for his part in the row.

Corrigan is suiting us at the moment compact tighter pitch allows us to turn it into a proper battle in all areas. Credit to the boys for then having the ability to hurl and battle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 07, 2021, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 09:08:20 AM
That was a tight one for Derry yesterday Fear. Looked like a decent comeback from Donegal. Disappointing Down result too - had hoped they would put it up to Offaly but Offaly if they get the finger out are probably decent enough.

We need to progress in the the championship to get all star nominations never mind all stars so I suspect it would be very hard for us to get anything.

It was but I was expecting that. Derry are not settled at all yet, I think it has been very difficult to mould this team without the opportunity for pre-season games etc. Donegal are on the road a long time together and are well drilled and conditioned. They had 5 lads from outside county starting too which I think sort of gives a slanted view of where they are at(although they have done massive work inside county too).

Down have been going well but Offally really seem to have regained composure and momentum under Fennelly. Antrim have really impressed me, its their conditioning that stands out a lot compared to other years, I thought Donál Óg was correct last year in what he said, Antrim were carrying timber and have worked hard on it since. Their hurling has been first class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 07, 2021, 12:12:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 07, 2021, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 09:08:20 AM
That was a tight one for Derry yesterday Fear. Looked like a decent comeback from Donegal. Disappointing Down result too - had hoped they would put it up to Offaly but Offaly if they get the finger out are probably decent enough.

We need to progress in the the championship to get all star nominations never mind all stars so I suspect it would be very hard for us to get anything.

It was but I was expecting that. Derry are not settled at all yet, I think it has been very difficult to mould this team without the opportunity for pre-season games etc. Donegal are on the road a long time together and are well drilled and conditioned. They had 5 lads from outside county starting too which I think sort of gives a slanted view of where they are at(although they have done massive work inside county too).

Down have been going well but Offally really seem to have regained composure and momentum under Fennelly. Antrim have really impressed me, its their conditioning that stands out a lot compared to other years, I thought Donál Óg was correct last year in what he said, Antrim were carrying timber and have worked hard on it since. Their hurling has been first class

Down caught the Biffo's cold last year, that wasn't going to happen yesterday. Offaly if they get themselves organised are a step up in level for Down and TBH beating Carlow was an expected step up for this particular team. Beating Meath would be another step in the right direction and re-enforce our position in 2A.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 12:13:52 PM
Brendan Cummins was saying that walking into Corrigan was like playing in Galatasaray !!! well the locals do have a soccer name for Corrigan funny enough  :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 07, 2021, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 12:13:52 PM
Brendan Cummins was saying that walking into Corrigan was like playing in Galatasaray !!! well the locals do have a soccer name for Corrigan funny enough  :D

I think it was the dead dog on the way in that did it..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 12:13:52 PM
Brendan Cummins was saying that walking into Corrigan was like playing in Galatasaray !!! well the locals do have a soccer name for Corrigan funny enough  :D

Are you going to share that name?? (I'm 90% sure I know the name haha)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 01:50:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 12:13:52 PM
Brendan Cummins was saying that walking into Corrigan was like playing in Galatasaray !!! well the locals do have a soccer name for Corrigan funny enough  :D

Are you going to share that name?? (I'm 90% sure I know the name haha)

I'll say nowt, in fairness to St Johns they have done a fantastic job at Corrigan, hopefully they will be able to develop it further and it will be well used in the coming years, not just for county games but club finals too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 02:13:28 PM
Club Aontroma paid 25k for that stand. Good to see that. It definitely now looks like a good setup.

I know what you boys call it lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 07, 2021, 02:54:51 PM
That was a great price for the stand in Corrigan. Maybe its the romantic side in me,  but I'd love to see Antrim play a league game in Cushendun. Its a scenic setting and a good tight pitch. I think players would love it too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 07, 2021, 02:59:30 PM
Sean O Neill Limerick hurler said he used to love playing in Casement as there was nothing but noise coming from the stand. I've good memories following Antrim in the stand at Casement people would tend to get very fired up especially the youn ones thumbing the supports up the back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on June 07, 2021, 03:54:57 PM
Great result for Antrim, good for hurling across the province. Davy Fitz is a legend and was rightly complimentary. Gleeson is doing a good job and hopefully he can build on this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Crikeyboys on June 07, 2021, 09:10:59 PM
Davy Fitz is the most lovable troublemaker in the entire GAA. I think he trumps Joe Brolly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 09:44:07 PM
Cummins didn't know our players at all lol. Looked down and said mccloskey and wasn't even sure who he meant.

Watching that match again Shannon did well. McManus's ball no doubt was fantastic but he needed a bit of composure to finish that. The ball for Molloy to score was great too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 07, 2021, 10:04:47 PM
Yes, Shannon had some impact after coming on. His pass for final point was absolute precision. Wonder what the approach will be this weekend? We are safe and a huge championship game two weeks later. Might see some lesser used panel members vetting game time which might be a good thing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 07, 2021, 10:09:35 PM
Yea shea shannon looks a quality player and a good one for the future, i would have shannon or clarke on ahead of mccloskey
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2021, 10:25:59 PM
I'd like to see more of Peter mccallin. He is a bit more of a physical presence than we have so worth a look. (Not a St. John's man lol).

Mccloskey a bit different - more work rate and disruptive than a big scoring threat. Did very well last year too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 07, 2021, 10:39:48 PM
Does anyone know is conor mccann injured? Im guessing he is.
I seen in the build up to the wexford game gleeson said that he wanted to give him a rest for the dublin game as he didnt have much time to train before this campaign, due to an injury i think, and he said he would be fine for the wexford game, did he pick up a new injury last week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2021, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 07, 2021, 10:39:48 PM
Does anyone know is conor mccann injured? Im guessing he is.
I seen in the build up to the wexford game gleeson said that he wanted to give him a rest for the dublin game as he didnt have much time to train before this campaign, due to an injury i think, and he said he would be fine for the wexford game, did he pick up a new injury last week?

Not sure of the Wexford game but defo injured for Dublin game.

We've loads of options and horses for courses I'd say, we've still a lot of lads that still need to physically fill out, and while they are great to come on as subs to run at players late on, some lads would be hurt badly if they ran into some of those Dublin lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 07, 2021, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 07, 2021, 10:43:49 PM
There's an all Ireland in this team. I definitely believe that.
We're not going to win an all ireland, in the near future anyway. I love this team, im loving watching them, and its been a hugely succesful campaign to stay up with a game to go, its brilliant! We also have to be realistic, we were in 2a and the mcdonagh last year. We are looking to establish ourselves in div 1 and the liam mccarthy and build from there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2021, 07:27:29 AM
5 all stars this year and maybe an all Ireland before 2025. That'll do ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 08, 2021, 02:08:20 PM
Why not? The lads vs wexford were unbelievable. Id go as far as to say that was the best Antrim performance I've ever seen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 08, 2021, 02:19:39 PM
Quote from: KickItInAndStartClapping on June 08, 2021, 02:10:24 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 07, 2021, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 07, 2021, 10:43:49 PM
There's an all Ireland in this team. I definitely believe that.
We're not going to win an all ireland, in the near future anyway. I love this team, im loving watching them, and its been a hugely succesful campaign to stay up with a game to go, its brilliant! We also have to be realistic, we were in 2a and the mcdonagh last year. We are looking to establish ourselves in div 1 and the liam mccarthy and build from there.

Antrim will lift the Liam McCarthy before the year 2026.

I'd really love to believe you for the greater good of Ulster hurling but a few good performances in the NHL isn't really the foundation needed to be talking of winning an AI in 2026.

Limerick have been rattling off U21 titles, NHL's, Munster titles etc etc with a pretty young team. Hard to see Antrim make that leap in 5 years..


Are the schools out early this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 08, 2021, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2021, 02:08:20 PM
Why not? The lads vs wexford were unbelievable. Id go as far as to say that was the best Antrim performance I've ever seen.
The team were brilliant against wexford, im still over the moon at how well this team are doing, they are doing us proud.
But to win all irelands you have to beat teams at the level of limerick, galway, tipp, they are a level above wexford. I think we have 5 or 6 players at that level, not 15.
And you have to beat them in croke park, the tight pitch in corrigan suits our game.
I dont think we should be getting bogged down on talking about winning all irelands, for now just enjoy how well the team are doing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: KickItInAndStartClapping on June 08, 2021, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.

All things considered, Antrim have a stronger team than Galway this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2021, 02:59:42 PM
Has Angelo and Syd taken over the Antrim thread?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2021, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.

Dublin are a massive battle for us. They were well ahead of us in our game and we say we were tired etc but the championship game will tell us if that is a reality. We're massively improved being competitive with these teams and if we beat Dublin tbh I would be absolutely over the moon and if I'm honest very pleasantly surprised. I would say it's dublin +5 or so for that game by bookies odds. One game at a time.

All Ireland talk is either WUM stuff or pipe dream stuff.

Galway, Limerick and Tipp the 3 best with the likes of KK, Waterford etc below them. There's a massive gap between the top few and the next few and there's a massive gap from them to the rest.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 08, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.
Exactly,
If we could beat dublin in the leinster that would be incredible. If not, i think we would have a relegation play off against laois. If we won that, along with our league campaign this year and can bring on some quality young players that would be a hugely succesful year, and something to build on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: KickItInAndStartClapping on June 08, 2021, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 08, 2021, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.
Exactly,
If we could beat dublin in the leinster that would be incredible. If not, i think we would have a relegation play off against laois. If we won that, along with our league campaign this year and can bring on some quality young players that would be a hugely succesful year, and something to build on

Agreed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2021, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2021, 02:59:42 PM
Has Angelo and Syd taken over the Antrim thread?

Yeah it looks that way.

This used to be a place where we could have a civilised wise discussion about Antrim hurling.

Fact is we have improved.
Fact is we are still light years behind the next level.

The boys are progressing and things have played into our hands this year, Dublin in championship will be the yardstick and then again next year to see if we can retain Div 1 status.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 08, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
Elliot, Walsh, McNaughton and Molloy will be definitely in the all-star nominations this year which is great. Id fancy us to take Dublin now based on Saturdays brilliant performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 08, 2021, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
Elliot, Walsh, McNaughton and Molloy will be definitely in the all-star nominations this year which is great. Id fancy us to take Dublin now based on Saturdays brilliant performance.

FFS if we are chinned in the first round by Dublin, two league (one drawn) games arent going to get you a nomination for anything. You might get an invite to the GL dinner but thats the height of it.

Can we catch a grip and get back to some sort of reality.

(Shouldn't have taken the bait but pages of sh*t getting on my nerves)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 08, 2021, 06:04:43 PM
Antrim should go all out against Laois (who I expect to be ultra competitive) in preparation for Dublin. This is the last real chance to get in a good tough game. Unless they have some good challenge games lined up. You would want to be match sharp I think we have a decent chance against Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 08, 2021, 06:22:23 PM
I agree. For me we want to be building confidence by getting a win against Laois and also winning as many games as we lose in division 1. There's a two week gap to the Dublin game. For me the football like the hurling- league highest priority and championship a bonus.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 08, 2021, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 08, 2021, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 08, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
Elliot, Walsh, McNaughton and Molloy will be definitely in the all-star nominations this year which is great. Id fancy us to take Dublin now based on Saturdays brilliant performance.

FFS if we are chinned in the first round by Dublin, two league (one drawn) games arent going to get you a nomination for anything. You might get an invite to the GL dinner but thats the height of it.

Can we catch a grip and get back to some sort of reality.

(Shouldn't have taken the bait but pages of sh*t getting on my nerves)

Jesus wept. He's a wind up merchant. People who don't see through him are nearly as silly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 08, 2021, 08:43:42 PM
I dunno, i dont think he is a wind up merchant, maybe just young or something, who knows
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 08, 2021, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 08, 2021, 08:43:42 PM
I dunno, i dont think he is a wind up merchant, maybe just young or something, who knows

Village idiot
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Crikeyboys on June 08, 2021, 10:10:06 PM
Where can Laois game be watched.  It's unlikely to be on TG4. I suppose GAAGO is best bet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2021, 10:14:57 PM
Quote from: Crikeyboys on June 08, 2021, 10:10:06 PM
Where can Laois game be watched.  It's unlikely to be on TG4. I suppose GAAGO is best bet.

Provided it doesn't lose its reception GAAgo is the best bet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 08, 2021, 10:23:59 PM
Yeah it's on GAAGO and can be purchased for £5. Always good camera shots and Commentary not too bad either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Applesisapples on June 09, 2021, 10:37:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 08, 2021, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 08, 2021, 02:50:07 PM
Cam down lads, we are not the same standards as limerick,Galway Tipp etc. we need to be competing at minor and u21 before we have those sort of aspirations. I'll take a deep run in Leinster with the view of adding a few more players for next year.

Dublin are a massive battle for us. They were well ahead of us in our game and we say we were tired etc but the championship game will tell us if that is a reality. We're massively improved being competitive with these teams and if we beat Dublin tbh I would be absolutely over the moon and if I'm honest very pleasantly surprised. I would say it's dublin +5 or so for that game by bookies odds. One game at a time.

All Ireland talk is either WUM stuff or pipe dream stuff.

Galway, Limerick and Tipp the 3 best with the likes of KK, Waterford etc below them. There's a massive gap between the top few and the next few and there's a massive gap from them to the rest.
Yes Dublin have worked hard and spent a lot in the last 10 years to develop hurling, but you Antrim guys have a tradition going back generations and all the cultural links to commons, shinty etc... You can and should be able to compete at the highest level. Though an AI is a way off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 09, 2021, 11:30:24 AM
To win an all Ireland Antrim would need the main clubs firing on all cylinders simultaneously during a period of Kilkenny weakness.
The GAA could perhaps experiment with a scheme to lend young players from the main counties to Antrim, Laois etc in order to speed up the process. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2021, 11:36:59 AM
They did that but we are too far away from the big counties for that to work.(It wasn't necessarily young players)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2021, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 09, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
We don't need outside players we have the talent in our manager and players to win an all Ireland.

I've a feeling we will blow laois away on Sunday. We need to go for goal early and get stuck in from the start.

Laois looked decent against Kilkenny
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2021, 01:04:16 PM
No easy games in this division but groundlie knows that lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 09, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
Laois have been getting the better of us the last few years, i know weve improved, they have a few injuries and we might change the team a bit since were safe, but it will likely be a tight game, hopefully we'll get the win
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 09, 2021, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2021, 01:04:16 PM
No easy games in this division but groundlie knows that lol.
Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 09, 2021, 04:40:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2021, 01:00:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 09, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
We don't need outside players we have the talent in our manager and players to win an all Ireland.

I've a feeling we will blow laois away on Sunday. We need to go for goal early and get stuck in from the start.

Laois looked decent against Kilkenny
Laois don't seem to have kicked on from last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2021, 06:34:17 PM
So what's Gleeson's approach to this, give some fringe players a run out for a look at them or try and finish third in table or possibly both. Laois had there best game so far v Kilkenny and will view this match as prep for championship in two weeks, they also have good players back from injury.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2021, 06:45:08 PM
Personally I'd give Laois a game, I can't remember the last time we beat them or played them up in Antrim. Might as well keep the momentum going, if players are carrying knocks that's fine rest them, if players are coming back from injury then they need game time.

After that assessment I'd play my strongest side, some fringe players got a great run out against Down. After this game Antrim needs a challenge game or two against teams in the order group and for the fringe players maybe Offaly who seem to be getting their act together again.

Keeping the pace and intensity up is where we'll know where we are at
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2021, 07:55:35 PM
Laois have lost a few from last year. They always have good hurlers and tbh in all my years watching us I don't know if I've been to a game we have beat Laois in. (though I know we beat them a few years ago in a game I missed but I don't think it has been a regular occurence). They always seem to unearth one player who is outstanding and then the rest are very solid.

For me this is a big game. I see Clarke got player of the month. I am assuming if he was thought to be that good he wasn't dropped for the last game and was rested. We've had a lot of churn in forwards so it might be no bad thing to try and get what would be our best 6 on the field.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on June 10, 2021, 12:38:18 AM
Everyone is taking like us beating Laois is ancient history. We beat them in championship group game in Ballycastle about 4 or 5 seasons ago, a penalty was the last puck of the game.  But in that period it was always v close between us and them be it championship or league; they have no Indian sign over us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Crikeyboys on June 10, 2021, 01:22:39 AM
It appears from looking at the team selection against Wexford, that Darren Gleeson probably didn't expect to win, and may have been targeting the Laois game to get a win. The draw was a great fillip to morale. It is to be hoped that Darren now has his preferred selection for the Laois game and a determined display, to get a win here will result. At this stage we can hope that ball control will improve significantly and the intensity can be stepped up. Laois will go all out here having nothing more to lose and it will be interesting to see if we can cope with what might be an onslaught.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on June 10, 2021, 03:02:05 PM
Groundlie

Was it not only last week you were getting stuck into Gleeson about the availability of county players in club games?
Now your praising him as the next messiah for running a tight ship.
Your quickly 1) losing credibility 2)being found to be a total windup 3) if so, back to point 1. Your losing any credibility of an input in the forum.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2021, 11:21:41 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/clarke-and-antrim-determined-to-build-on-recent-progress-1.4588963

Clarke and Antrim determined to build on recent progress
Ballycastle man's Player of the Month award an acknowledgement of Saffrons' encouraging league form
Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 06:00
Ian O'Riordan
 
 
Any expectation that this weekend's final round of the Allianz Hurling League is nothing more than the last support act before the main event of the summer may ring true in certain counties, only Ciarán Clarke begs to differ.

The gentle rise and unquestionably competitive nature of Antrim hurling has been one of the headline stories of the season so far, and Clarke has no intention or desire for it to end now.

Already safe from relegation, their final round league game against Laois on Saturday offers another chance to prove they are here near the top and to stay.

Antrim's progress in 2021 gained further recognition with Clarke being named the PwC GAA/GPA Player of the Month for May for hurling, receiving his award at his home club Ballycastle, a rare prize for the county no matter what time of the year.

Clarke has been central to Antrim's competitiveness on their return to Division One, hitting 1-11 against Clare in their opening day win, a haul which included 1-1 from play.

"Beating Clare, we probably didn't think we'd perform that well and at the weekend there we'd Wexford, came away with the draw, and it kind of felt like a defeat," says Clarke.

"We felt we could have got the win, so there's a good buzz in the county, a few supporters in at the weekend too, which gave us a good lift.

"The thing that's different this year is we believe we can compete with these top teams, can go far. Since Darren [Gleeson] has come in, as over the last couple of years, it has been a very professional set-up, you want for nothing. It's also probably the first year we've had all the county players available to us, they want to commit. We've 36 on the panel, for the first time ever, and people wanting to come onto it."

The desire to sustain it all into the championship is hardened by the fact Antrim competed well against Dublin in round three of Division 1b, before losing 1-26 to 1-18, Dublin being their Leinster quarter-final opponents on June 26th. Laois play Wexford in the other quarter-final, that side of the draw presenting a real chance for progress.

"Of course you always want more, and the thing for us now is not being happy with what we've done. You want to win your last league game, then give a good account of yourself in the championship. So I wouldn't take it as a successful season at the minute. You want to do it in the championship.

"Dublin we know are a big strong team, but we know every game is going to be tough, whether it's Dublin, Wexford, or Kilkenny. Once you get a good performance we shouldn't be too far away, no matter who we're playing."

Some frustration
At times Antrim have made it difficult on themselves, especially in the loss to Dublin and Kilkenny, though they arguably finished just as strong.

"That shows maybe we have the fitness, and the strength and conditioning. We also have six forwards who start, but we have six forwards on the bench who could come in just as easily."

They've also made Corrigan Park something of a fortress in Belfast, although it is no Casement Park, the continuing redevelopment at the latter, which has had funding allocation, of some frustration it seems.

"Whenever I was growing up, you'd be going to Casement Park, having the big Antrim games there. So for the younger generation, that can play a big part, seeing the other big county teams coming there, seeing progress, and where they want to be.

"The first year I came in senior was the year it was shut, so I only ever played a few games there. There are so many twists and turns, we're getting it then we're not getting it, but you'd like to hope we'll be back playing there some day."

There is also the sense Antrim don't want this period to be another short-term progress. For a few years though it seemed as if they might never break out again from the Christy Ring or Joe McDonagh Cup, perhaps never feature again in the Liam MacCarthy, although again Clarke begs to differ.

"I don't think it was the thought at the minute, though we always thought we could do it, if we had the right management, the right players, and this year everything just came together nicely.

"I think the management have really instilled the belief that we are as good as the other players, and other teams. I think the main thing Darren has done is the belief, we just needed to believe it, and I think once we realise we can compete, can challenge, we are just as good."

Whatever about that desire to win a championship game this summer, Clarke isn't thinking at all about relegation, even though unlike the Munster championship, where for another year all the counties are safe against relegation, Leinster still has that avenue.

"It's not something we've talked about, we're just looking to win our first championship match, and make sure relegation isn't even in our mind. Same with this league, we never talked about relegation, we just wanted to finish as high up as we could."

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
A different selection to what I thought!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 12, 2021, 12:17:06 PM
Yea, be interesting to see how seaan elliott does, hes one for the future.
It wouldve been a good chance to start shea shannon aswell, im sure he'll come off the bench tho
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 12, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
Seaan Elliott is ready for this level. No Ciaran Clarke, Neil McManus, Conor McCann, Joe Maskey or Keelan Molloy. I wonder what the thinking is? Possibly giving others the chance/experience in the build up to the Dublin game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 12, 2021, 01:20:31 PM
Yea its great to see elliott starting, hes a great young player.
Yea this game lets us try a few other players, and rest some lads like mcnaughton, molloy, mcmanus etc, now that we're safe in the league
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 12, 2021, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 12, 2021, 01:20:31 PM
Yea its great to see elliott starting, hes a great young player.
Yea this game lets us try a few other players, and rest some lads like mcnaughton, molloy, mcmanus etc, now that we're safe in the league

Jesus, how did I overlook James. He's been outstanding. There's a crop at Loughiel around that age: Ryan McKee, Cathal McMullan, Damon McMullan, James McNaughton all good hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 12, 2021, 04:55:47 PM
Brilliant win! Especially considering we changed a few players in the team, shows the strength and quality of the squad. And Seaan Elliott showed his quality aswell, as did the whole team.
5 points from the campaign is outstanding! This team are doing us proud! Its so good to see!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 12, 2021, 06:03:06 PM
Well done to all involved. Outstanding league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on June 12, 2021, 09:13:57 PM
I have been watching Antrim for a very long time, that is the best league performance since the early nineties. I had substantial doubts about Darren Gleeson when he was appointed, I am happy to have been proven wrong.
Well done to Darren and everyone else involved, superb effort.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on June 12, 2021, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: up the rovers on June 12, 2021, 09:13:57 PM
I have been watching Antrim for a very long time, that is the best league performance since the early nineties. I had substantial doubts about Darren Gleeson when he was appointed, I am happy to have been proven wrong.
Well done to Darren and everyone else involved, superb effort.

Just fantastic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 13, 2021, 05:39:55 PM
Roll on Dublin... Here we go!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 13, 2021, 10:43:07 PM
Our group for next years league campaign.
Tipperary, Waterford, Kilkenny, Dublin and winner of Laois v Westmeath relegation game.
Looking forward to it already.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 14, 2021, 10:43:17 AM
After that successful league campaign for our hurlers it's into championship now and hopefully a good showing against the Dubs. It seems that Darren has settled on the defence but still a few spots in the forward line up for grabs. Be interested to read what would your starting 15 be if it was your choice?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
Molloy mcnaughton
McKenna McManus Bradley
Johnston cunning Clarke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 14, 2021, 01:02:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2021, 12:30:08 PM
Molloy mcnaughton
McKenna McManus Bradley
Johnston cunning Clarke

Mc Cormack impressed me when he came on more than Bradley
Shan Elliott made a statement as well. Johnston was doing it for me either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 14, 2021, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 14, 2021, 10:43:17 AM
After that successful league campaign for our hurlers it's into championship now and hopefully a good showing against the Dubs. It seems that Darren has settled on the defence but still a few spots in the forward line up for grabs. Be interested to read what would your starting 15 be if it was your choice?
Molloy, McNaughton,
McKenna, McManus, O'Neill,
Clarke, Cunning, Elliott

First attacking subs to bring on, depending how the game is going
Shannon, Johnston, McCann, McCormack, Bradley

What would be yours ciaran1988?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 14, 2021, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 13, 2021, 10:43:07 PM
Our group for next years league campaign.
Tipperary, Waterford, Kilkenny, Dublin and winner of Laois v Westmeath relegation game.
Looking forward to it already.
Is that confirmed?
If so thats a tough group, hope we get dublin and laois/westmeath at corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
Jackie Tyrrell
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/jackie-tyrrell-formidable-galway-the-main-threat-to-limerick-s-crown-1.4596302

"Antrim
The team of the year so far. Two years ago they couldn't get out of Division 2A, finishing behind Westmeath and Kerry. But they have obviously developed well beyond that tier of teams now and they put in a strong league showing, beating Clare and Laois and drawing with Wexford.
Darren Gleeson's charges will fancy a real cut off Dublin next weekend. Neil McManus is their go-to man but Paddy Burke and Niall McKenna are key to them too. Well able to mix the short passing with the long game, they were joint-top goalscorers in 1B.
Nobody will be taking them for granted so they won't have the element of surprise on their side. But Gleeson wouldn't have wanted to rely on that anyway. The next step is a championship victory. Can't be ruled out."
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Belfast amalgamations have form here
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Belfast amalgamations have form here

I wouldn't be concerned which club the mentor was involved with, but from what I have heard this was a very serious incident.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Belfast amalgamations have form here

I wouldn't be concerned which club the mentor was involved with, but from what I have heard this was a very serious incident.

I heard parent jumped fence . I'd be concerned about some of the amalgamations, less control
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:25:43 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Belfast amalgamations have form here

I wouldn't be concerned which club the mentor was involved with, but from what I have heard this was a very serious incident.

I heard parent jumped fence . I'd be concerned about some of the amalgamations, less control

I have heard that as a result of mentor striking a player on the field of play, this caused a row with various people involved.

To me the most concerning aspect is what caused the initial row, child protection issues all over it. Hopefully DR can maybe set the record straight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:25:43 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 09:49:40 AM
Hearing very concerning reports about a Juvenile being struck by a mentor of the opposing team in Dunloy?

DR are they correct?

Belfast amalgamations have form here

I wouldn't be concerned which club the mentor was involved with, but from what I have heard this was a very serious incident.

I heard parent jumped fence . I'd be concerned about some of the amalgamations, less control

I have heard that as a result of mentor striking a player on the field of play, this caused a row with various people involved.

To me the most concerning aspect is what caused the initial row, child protection issues all over it. Hopefully DR can maybe set the record straight.

Sounds messy.
Needs stamped out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:38:41 AM
Maybe if you PM him rather that airing that stuff on a public forum would be better?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:38:41 AM
Maybe if you PM him rather that airing that stuff on a public forum would be better?

Don't see anything wrong with asking on here MR2, it is pretty common knowledge at this point.

Was just asking DR to clarify.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:38:41 AM
Maybe if you PM him rather that airing that stuff on a public forum would be better?

Don't see anything wrong with asking on here MR2, it is pretty common knowledge at this point.

Was just asking DR to clarify.

I think you'd get a quicker response in fairness..

Anyways things are getting out of hand lately on the sidelines and from some players. Some games are a joy to be part of and others you wonder WTF are you doing!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2021, 10:38:41 AM
Maybe if you PM him rather that airing that stuff on a public forum would be better?

Don't see anything wrong with asking on here MR2, it is pretty common knowledge at this point.

Was just asking DR to clarify.

I think you'd get a quicker response in fairness..

Anyways things are getting out of hand lately on the sidelines and from some players. Some games are a joy to be part of and others you wonder WTF are you doing!!

Hard job for you. I don't envy it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 18, 2021, 11:47:58 AM
Sadly, very sadly, we need the American soccer approach where parents are not allowed within 500m of the pitch. I'm not even joking. To me this has to happen or we are going to have a mass migration from our sports which as already been happening for years. Let children play, let them have fun, let people make mistakes on the pitch.

Agreed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on June 18, 2021, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2021, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 18, 2021, 11:47:58 AM
Sadly, very sadly, we need the American soccer approach where parents are not allowed within 500m of the pitch. I'm not even joking. To me this has to happen or we are going to have a mass migration from our sports which as already been happening for years. Let children play, let them have fun, let people make mistakes on the pitch.

Agreed

Agreed - but this wasn't a 'parent' in this instance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 19, 2021, 11:07:24 PM
https://punditarena.com/gaa/conor-mckenna/gaa-hurling-power-rankings/?fbclid=IwAR1xOPot8YKc_Uxhjc4OsZnnrKbm4XFbE2XQIBG4EAHIq03PP6RsFz2WybU

Lazy analysis if they think Antrim's relative  success is anything to do with money ploughed in from Croke Park (although in fairness they don't explicitly say that).

Has money really put in and what is it being spent on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 19, 2021, 11:29:37 PM
Quote from: podge on June 19, 2021, 11:07:24 PM
https://punditarena.com/gaa/conor-mckenna/gaa-hurling-power-rankings/?fbclid=IwAR1xOPot8YKc_Uxhjc4OsZnnrKbm4XFbE2XQIBG4EAHIq03PP6RsFz2WybU

Lazy analysis if they think Antrim's relative  success is anything to do with money ploughed in from Croke Park (although in fairness they don't explicitly say that).

Has money really put in and what is it being spent on?

Gaelfast
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 20, 2021, 09:11:53 AM
Very lazy analysis indeed. It's a long way from Gaelfast to anything remotely happening at development squad level, never mind senior activity.

It has been a fantastic year for Antrim hurling, the icing on the cake would be to topple the Dubs and be competitive against Galway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 20, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: bannside on June 20, 2021, 09:11:53 AM
Very lazy analysis indeed. It's a long way from Gaelfast to anything remotely happening at development squad level, never mind senior activity.

It has been a fantastic year for Antrim hurling, the icing on the cake would be to topple the Dubs and be competitive against Galway.

I absolutely agree..Belfast hurling is in very strong health and there is no way gaelfast could have made impact that quick which is why I've been asking from the beginning why did Belfast get the package ahead of others . In fact I'm glad they did , but other places need same support. There are 15 odd hurling clubs in Belfast and 1 here in Derry. please don't take this as anti gaelfast or Belfast , loved playing up there and genuinely love to see Antrim do well and grow in hurling especially.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2021, 11:40:49 AM
Tbh I agree with this. It is good to see but Derry city probably needs it as much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 20, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 20, 2021, 11:46:51 AM
Definitely not gaelfast, as much as I would love to say it was. We are actually reaping the rewards of a freakish St Louis winning team. Also, I find it very difficult to work out what gaelfast is? What is actually different or is it just more of the same? I was hoping there would be some really eye catching programmes to set the county alight but it just looks like pe in schools. An insider source said the scheme is on its knees. 4 members of staff are gone. 3 managers and employing another manager, more chiefs than Indians. But sure, what do I know.

Looking in here from Derry Belfast looks like a hurling idyll. Games at all ages all the time ,fantastic facilities, great schools links, massive numbers.

We have a waiting list of 5 primary schools waiting for someone to come in but the days of some lad dandering in fir after-school program doesn't work .
Full-time coaches getting proper wages is what is needed to make proper impact. It is full-time job if done correctly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on June 20, 2021, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 20, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 20, 2021, 11:46:51 AM
Definitely not gaelfast, as much as I would love to say it was. We are actually reaping the rewards of a freakish St Louis winning team. Also, I find it very difficult to work out what gaelfast is? What is actually different or is it just more of the same? I was hoping there would be some really eye catching programmes to set the county alight but it just looks like pe in schools. An insider source said the scheme is on its knees. 4 members of staff are gone. 3 managers and employing another manager, more chiefs than Indians. But sure, what do I know.

Looking in here from Derry Belfast looks like a hurling idyll. Games at all ages all the time ,fantastic facilities, great schools links, massive numbers.

We have a waiting list of 5 primary schools waiting for someone to come in but the days of some lad dandering in fir after-school program doesn't work .
Full-time coaches getting proper wages is what is needed to make proper impact. It is full-time job if done correctly

I agree with you entirely. But I am not at all convinced this is as widespread in antrim as you think it is. In fact I have seen no discernible difference arising from Gaelfast. Happy to stand corrected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 20, 2021, 08:38:30 PM
It's too early to say that though IMO. It isn't that long running and a lot of that time has been in the pandemic. That being said the attrition rates at top levels is worrying on it.

In terms of Belfast I wouldn't say it's as smooth as you think fear though a big issue for me is drop off rate. I finished school late 90s and in my time cbs were invincible. Between then and now I think one city club has won the championship so these amazing school teams aren't transitioning. We now have the St. John's excellent field side and some good Rossa sides coming through. Tbh I think it may be more to do with strong clubs than strong structures in place across the board. I could stand to be corrected on this mind you...

It will be interesting to see what becomes of st endas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 20, 2021, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 20, 2021, 08:38:30 PM
It's too early to say that though IMO. It isn't that long running and a lot of that time has been in the pandemic. That being said the attrition rates at top levels is worrying on it.

In terms of Belfast I wouldn't say it's as smooth as you think fear though a big issue for me is drop off rate. I finished school late 90s and in my time cbs were invincible. Between then and now I think one city club has won the championship so these amazing school teams aren't transitioning. We now have the St. John's excellent field side and some good Rossa sides coming through. Tbh I think it may be more to do with strong clubs than strong structures in place across the board. I could stand to be corrected on this mind you...

It will be interesting to see what becomes of st endas.

We used to beat  and compete with at enda regularly up to 2015.  We haven't moved on , they are so impressive now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 21, 2021, 09:52:00 AM
The thing about St Enda's is they are now reaping the rewards of their move into the North Antrim and South West Divisional boards which improved their underage hurling and football to no ends.

I think they weren't too happy with the amount of cancelled underage games in both codes in the South Antrim board when they played there.

Part of the deal with North Antrim was they had to play all their games away for the first year. I dont think they missed a match.

Is Gaelfast advertising for another manager. I think Neal Peden took over from PD when he stepped down. Seems like its turning into a bit of a Horlicks.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 21, 2021, 10:46:06 AM
I cant understand why Gaelfast sent a coach into a primary school which is a feeder school for a hurling only club, to coach football. Very poor communication.

I hope that Gaelfast is not going to implode but I think this needs to be managed properly to have each club catered for their needs and not seen as jobs for the boys.

If managed correctly Gaelfast can be a success but needs everyone singing off the same hymnsheet and communications established between all parties.

Its obvious Covid has thrown a spanner in the works but as we return to some sort of normality hopefully it can get on the road that it was intended to do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ardtole on June 21, 2021, 01:01:32 PM
Are any spectators allowed in at the weekend for the antrim v dublin game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on June 21, 2021, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 21, 2021, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 21, 2021, 10:46:06 AM
I cant understand why Gaelfast sent a coach into a primary school which is a feeder school for a hurling only club, to coach football. Very poor communication.

I hope that Gaelfast is not going to implode but I think this needs to be managed properly to have each club catered for their needs and not seen as jobs for the boys.

If managed correctly Gaelfast can be a success but needs everyone singing off the same hymnsheet and communications established between all parties.

Its obvious Covid has thrown a spanner in the works but as we return to some sort of normality hopefully it can get on the road that it was intended to do.

I honestly thought gaelfast would have several bright, vibrant and exciting initiatives to reignite games in the county but it seems to be completely falling apart. Its very sad.

Have you looked at the Gaelfast facebook page . There is plenty of good work going on at primary school level. The coaches also deliver coaching support & qualifications . They are heavily involved in dev squads.

Re  football in a hurling area - Do the pupils not have the option of  playing football in school  for 6 weeks.What harm is there in that ?.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 22, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
If clubs are tied on points in the league this year, is points difference the decider or head to head?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 22, 2021, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 22, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
If clubs are tied on points in the league this year, is points difference the decider or head to head?

1st v 8th
2nd v 7th
3rd v 6th
4th v 5th

not sure if its for and against or head to head results

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 23, 2021, 01:05:14 PM
Quote from: delgany on June 21, 2021, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 21, 2021, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on June 21, 2021, 10:46:06 AM
I cant understand why Gaelfast sent a coach into a primary school which is a feeder school for a hurling only club, to coach football. Very poor communication.

I hope that Gaelfast is not going to implode but I think this needs to be managed properly to have each club catered for their needs and not seen as jobs for the boys.

If managed correctly Gaelfast can be a success but needs everyone singing off the same hymnsheet and communications established between all parties.

Its obvious Covid has thrown a spanner in the works but as we return to some sort of normality hopefully it can get on the road that it was intended to do.

I honestly thought gaelfast would have several bright, vibrant and exciting initiatives to reignite games in the county but it seems to be completely falling apart. Its very sad.

Have you looked at the Gaelfast facebook page . There is plenty of good work going on at primary school level. The coaches also deliver coaching support & qualifications . They are heavily involved in dev squads.

Re  football in a hurling area - Do the pupils not have the option of  playing football in school  for 6 weeks.What harm is there in that ?.

Most of the pupils have probably never heard of hurling or gaelic football and Id say neither have many of the parents.

There is no facility for football outside the school as it's difficult enough trying to get an underage hurling structure underway, especially when its a small hurling club so having a Gaelfast coach demonstrating football is a waste of time and money.

Im well aware of the qualifications of the Gaelfast coaches. Woody is still travelling around primary schools in N Antrim and he is a brilliant coach. Unfortunately his remit does not extend to the catchment schools of our club.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 23, 2021, 01:53:03 PM
If you were willing to commit and coach kids it actually can be very rewarding for both weans and coaches. Obviously if you have your own youngsters involved it comes much easier.

I think to be a successful coach you need to be 1) very good with children be very creative 2) go in with a very good plan

It dose no harm either to do a few on line coaching seminars. The likes of Martin Fogarty runs them every so often and there very beneficial.

Just an example some of the kids i coach had trouble soloing
the sliotar and you could see it was effecting their confidence. Now we simply replaced the sliotar with a bean bag which they could all manage with very little difficulty.

Not a bad idea to take kids on a day trip to see a big match in Croke Park. You would be hopeful that by planting a little seed in their mind that they would want to play there to some day.

Also ask for feed back from players and parents so you can improve each training session. Maybe bring in a County player or coach to run a few drills for a treat.

As long as their having a good time you would be telling them to bring a friend the next day. I even buy the kids their own hu t l and sliotar and give them homework like roll lifting, jab lifting using the wall for a couple of hundred pucks of your left and right. I actually enjoy coaching its like your a kid again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 25, 2021, 07:50:01 PM
Good luck to our senior squad v Dublin. Go get em lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ciaran1988 on June 25, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
Antrim team named

1. Ryan Elliott
2. Damon McMullan
3. Gerard Walsh
4. Stephen Rooney
5. Eoghan Campbell
6. Paddy Burke
7. Joe Maskey
8. Keenan Molloy
9. Mick Bradley
10. Niall McKenna
11. James McNaughton
12. Coby Cunning
13. Seann Elliott
14. Neil McManus
15. Ciaran Clarke
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2021, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: ciaran1988 on June 25, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
Antrim team named

1. Ryan Elliott
2. Damon McMullan
3. Gerard Walsh
4. Stephen Rooney
5. Eoghan Campbell
6. Paddy Burke
7. Joe Maskey
8. Keenan Molloy
9. Mick Bradley
10. Niall McKenna
11. James McNaughton
12. Coby Cunning
13. Seann Elliott
14. Neil McManus
15. Ciaran Clarke

And with plenty more on the bench to inject pace and strength that's as good as we'll be able to put out! 

Will be looking forward to this game!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 12:23:51 AM
This is probably one of our best teams in years. Were strong all over the field and have a very good bench to come on. Not alot between these two teams but hopefully we get the rub of the green tomorrow. Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 08:36:13 AM
Its a really strong team, looking forward to the game!
C'mon the saffs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2021, 03:09:29 PM
Very cagy opening, Dublin elected to play against the wind, it looks like a 6 point wind, McManus playing with 4 along the half forward line means the full forwards playing off scraps!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2021, 03:26:51 PM
Every long puck out we are losing it!

Losing out on the rucks also

Now Dublin finding their players easily

We need a goal to get going
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 03:27:59 PM
Dublin backs well on top just the same as the league game. We need to change the forward line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2021, 03:28:53 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 03:27:59 PM
Dublin backs well on top just the same as the league game. We need to change the forward line.

It's poor ball in, change now though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 03:34:36 PM
All over very disappointing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on June 26, 2021, 03:38:29 PM
Need someone else onto Sutcliffe
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 03:39:32 PM
Dublin too strong very same pattern as the league game a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 26, 2021, 03:42:10 PM
Physically winning primary ball from puck outs or long balls Dublin are well on top, the goal came from mishandling a short (decent ball in fairness) puck from Elliot..

Very frustrating and we seem very leggy or maybe Dublin just have it sussed, I'd said Dublin are about a 6 point team better than us but was pleased with our selection, we just for the first half haven't turned up!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 03:49:15 PM
Being outplayed in all 14 outfield positions. 1st touch has cost us time and time again. Can't see us swinging this 2nd half and hoping I'm wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2021, 03:51:56 PM
Either switch Maskey and Campbell, cause Sutcliffe's size big advantage. Or bring Walsh out and throw on Matthew Donnelly.  Obviously they are exploiting the size difference in the Dublin puck outs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 04:14:49 PM
Ronan Hayes man of the match they should be much further ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Justin McCarthy said league hurling is like driving in a quiet country road and championship hurling is like driving on a motorway. Dublin are a very good team and will do well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2021, 04:58:57 PM
The thing is though the league game was the same.  Dublin are just currently too physical for us. We've come a long way but the gap still big.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on June 26, 2021, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 26, 2021, 04:58:57 PM
The thing is though the league game was the same.  Dublin are just currently too physical for us. We've come a long way but the gap still big.

I can understand them winning the high balls but the Antrim players seemed a yard or two behind all the time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on June 26, 2021, 05:33:18 PM
Good year considering we languished in lower tiers for years. Light years behind the top teams, so are Dublin. All in all a good year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 05:35:17 PM
Losers of Laois/Wexford next.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 05:35:17 PM
Losers of Laois/Wexford next.

Looks like Laois at the minute. I'd love to see Donal Nugent and Shea Shannon start the next day. We done best with short puck outs and low deliveries into the forwards. The long puck outs with the high balls fed into Dublins strong aerial game. I think Dublin will give Galway a serious challenge.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 05:35:17 PM
Losers of Laois/Wexford next.

Looks like Laois at the minute. I'd love to see Donal Nugent and Shea Shannon start the next day. We done best with short puck outs and low deliveries into the forwards. The long puck outs with the high balls fed into Dublins strong aerial game. I think Dublin will give Galway a serious challenge.

Donal is not fit enough for this level and Shea is too inexperienced. We'd 6 of our best forwards starting and they all struggled. Dublin were finding free players over the course of the 70 minutes. They made us appear very disjointed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on June 26, 2021, 08:17:38 PM
Dubs light years ahead. The number of turnovers and simple errors was criminal. Also the clean balls won in the forward line by Dublin was telling - we didn't catch one ball in the forward line. The space and movement off the ball was a different class. At times, it was pure skill by Dublin that told the tale. Suppose being found out today saves a serious, serious embarrassment at the hands of Galway. 18 point defeat today, and 18 point loss in 1989 to Tipp. Reality is a nasty wake up call...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 26, 2021, 08:18:17 PM
Thats a pity I rate Donal very highly. So its Laois in two weeks then their defeat was as big as our own. Just shows you at this level every mistake is almost punished. The experience will do us the world of good and thankfully we get another day out. Laois will fancy themselves against us can't see there being too much between us.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 26, 2021, 08:23:26 PM
A poor day for Antrim hurling. We were second to every ball, outmuscled, physically not a shadow on the Dubs and all the best hurlers on the pitch wore blue. Tactically we are inept, what chance did any of our forwards have with the type of hail Mary's being sent in on top of them. Individually we had one or two players who could hold their heads up, but half a dozen weren't at the races from the first bell.

Maybe Clare at home eight weeks ago was our championship, or Wexford or Laois. We looked tired today, have we climbed a mountain too many?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 26, 2021, 08:45:40 PM
It's a time for calm. Look what we have achieved the past 2 seasons. Who could have dreamed we'd have been in Division 1 let alone stay up in 2021. Further, we're not done with this season yet. Today was merely a reality check......or a cunning plan by Darren Gleeson. Keep the faith.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on June 26, 2021, 08:53:06 PM
I don't know why Donal was out on the wing as we needed a bit of muscle in the fill forward line by the time he came on - particularly as is not fit. Very disappointed all said. Can't pick a positive, but it was a rerun of the league game and the Dubs in the forward line were too cute and ran us ragged.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2021, 08:54:40 PM
This game was really no different to the league game. It's not a shock but we have come a long way and the players and manager deserve massive credit. I can't see Dublin beating Galway but physically they will challenge them. Galway and Limerick for me only two who could win an ai. Laois game a good chance to get some confidence back. If we were to win that I'd like to see a crack at Wexford.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on June 26, 2021, 09:32:59 PM
So, another morale boosting hammering.. :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2021, 09:49:11 PM
Eh? It's hardly morale boosting. Dublin had our number in the league and they have it now. We picked up in the league after getting well beat and hopefully we can pick up now too. We've improved massively but you can't just move to division one then suddenly you will go from being miles away from some of these teams to beating them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 26, 2021, 10:34:27 PM
League for playing.
Championship for winning. Look at Wexford scoreline.
Antrim have had a good year, hopefully build on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 26, 2021, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/

I dont buy that home advantage thingy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 09:25:10 AM
Antrim have been much more competitive at corrigan this year compared to playing away.
I think the tighter pitch allows us to make it a battle against these top teams. Playing on a bigger pitch against a team like dublin with more athletic players allows them to stretch the game more and find more space.
Although the laois players arent anymore athletic than ours, i still think it gives them an advantage to be playing at their home ground. They wont have any travelling aswell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on June 27, 2021, 10:16:40 AM
Laois are in tatters, morale smashed between league and championship. They are a wounded animal, and will see 70 mins against Antrim as a way of rectifying things. With home advantage they won't fear us any more than we fear them. A dog fight awaits, let's hope Darren does have a plan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw

There were a few times our forwards were fouled and didnt get a free, there was one with mccann in the 2nd half i remember. And dublin got a lot of very soft frees, while we didnt. The red card seemed harsh aswell, no replays on the gaago stream but seemed harsh in real time
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 27, 2021, 10:56:27 AM
Championship for us this year was a bonus, main thing was getting another year in div 1 which we achieved. The players now have a taste of what is needed at this level, they also have seen the step up from league hurling to championship time. It'll stand the lads for next year massively. Be great to go out get past Laois and get another game. If we do that I'd say this will have been a really successful season for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 27, 2021, 10:56:27 AM
Championship for us this year was a bonus, main thing was getting another year in div 1 which we achieved. The players now have a taste of what is needed at this level, they also have seen the step up from league hurling to championship time. It'll stand the lads for next year massively. Be great to go out get past Laois and get another game. If we do that I'd say this will have been a really successful season for us
Yep, completely agree
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 27, 2021, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 27, 2021, 10:16:40 AM
Laois are in tatters, morale smashed between league and championship. They are a wounded animal, and will see 70 mins against Antrim as a way of rectifying things. With home advantage they won't fear us any more than we fear them. A dog fight awaits, let's hope Darren does have a plan.
The match v Laois is the most important match of the year.

It was obvious from yesterday's match that Antrim weren't up to championship pace.

Possibly the short turnaround from league into the championship didn't allow Antrim sufficient time to prepare.

Only a few of the team have played at Liam McCarthy level before but I think yesterday's match is a reality check as to what will be required for next year's campaign IF they can overcome Laois.

That's why that match is the most important one of the year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw

There were a few times our forwards were fouled and didnt get a free, there was one with mccann in the 2nd half i remember. And dublin got a lot of very soft frees, while we didnt. The red card seemed harsh aswell, no replays on the gaago stream but seemed harsh in real time

The red card (at that level) is a red card offence, McCann ran into the tackle looking a free if I'm being honest. There were at least two calls for over carrying that I thought were frees the other way against Dublin!

On the game we should have kept the points ticking over as for a spell we went searching for a goal when the point would have improved our point tally, they got two goals that were soft enough and a well taken goal. Dublin did a number on our attack and snuffed them out of space or closed the options from our ball from defence to attack. You can't fault the lads we just came up against a better team on the day (twice)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 27, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
Don't know where it's coming from that the Laois match is in Portlaoise. Every official source has it TBC

Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw

There were a few times our forwards were fouled and didnt get a free, there was one with mccann in the 2nd half i remember. And dublin got a lot of very soft frees, while we didnt. The red card seemed harsh aswell, no replays on the gaago stream but seemed harsh in real time

The red card (at that level) is a red card offence, McCann ran into the tackle looking a free if I'm being honest. There were at least two calls for over carrying that I thought were frees the other way against Dublin!

On the game we should have kept the points ticking over as for a spell we went searching for a goal when the point would have improved our point tally, they got two goals that were soft enough and a well taken goal. Dublin did a number on our attack and snuffed them out of space or closed the options from our ball from defence to attack. You can't fault the lads we just came up against a better team on the day (twice)

We'll agree to disagree on the ref then
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on June 27, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
Don't know where it's coming from that the Laois match is in Portlaoise. Every official source has it TBC

Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/

It says that on the saffrongael website, dunno if its true or not, hopefully not
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw

There were a few times our forwards were fouled and didnt get a free, there was one with mccann in the 2nd half i remember. And dublin got a lot of very soft frees, while we didnt. The red card seemed harsh aswell, no replays on the gaago stream but seemed harsh in real time

The red card (at that level) is a red card offence, McCann ran into the tackle looking a free if I'm being honest. There were at least two calls for over carrying that I thought were frees the other way against Dublin!

On the game we should have kept the points ticking over as for a spell we went searching for a goal when the point would have improved our point tally, they got two goals that were soft enough and a well taken goal. Dublin did a number on our attack and snuffed them out of space or closed the options from our ball from defence to attack. You can't fault the lads we just came up against a better team on the day (twice)

We'll agree to disagree on the ref then

That's your lot? Ok
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 09:12:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 27, 2021, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
Dissapointing today, dublin too good for us, that ref was shocking for me, tho obviously dublin were always going to win easily playing like that no matter what the ref did.
Big game v Laois, anybody know if it will be in a neutral venue? Im guessing it has to be

I watched the match and wondering what stuck out about the ref? I can't recall a moment when I gave off about a call, and that's me watching it as a supporter btw

There were a few times our forwards were fouled and didnt get a free, there was one with mccann in the 2nd half i remember. And dublin got a lot of very soft frees, while we didnt. The red card seemed harsh aswell, no replays on the gaago stream but seemed harsh in real time

The red card (at that level) is a red card offence, McCann ran into the tackle looking a free if I'm being honest. There were at least two calls for over carrying that I thought were frees the other way against Dublin!

On the game we should have kept the points ticking over as for a spell we went searching for a goal when the point would have improved our point tally, they got two goals that were soft enough and a well taken goal. Dublin did a number on our attack and snuffed them out of space or closed the options from our ball from defence to attack. You can't fault the lads we just came up against a better team on the day (twice)

We'll agree to disagree on the ref then

That's your lot? Ok

Ach i could go into it but i cant be bothered getting into a silly online argument. People see games differently, its all good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on June 28, 2021, 11:47:57 AM
does anyone else on this forum that playing on a Sunday is a joke, and doesn't suit anyone, and should be seriously looked at for review.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on June 28, 2021, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 28, 2021, 11:47:57 AM
does anyone else on this forum that playing on a Sunday is a joke, and doesn't suit anyone, and should be seriously looked at for review.

what's the alternative in Antrim? we already play Wednesday games due to being a dual county and needing to get both played. so if you're talking Friday then its not a goer really as you'd be going wed fri, Saturdays might be a bit better but a lot of clubs have lads playing soccer so you're then making fellas make a choice and given a lot of them will be getting a few pound for it you'd be making lads make a difficult decision. I understand the calls for the change but its easy in counties where they dont have the massive fixture schedules we have.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on June 28, 2021, 03:29:21 PM
At this stage most players are fed up with the schedule and it is proven in the likes of Dublin a Tuesday and Friday/saturday schedule works for a lot of the lads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2021, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 28, 2021, 03:29:21 PM
At this stage most players are fed up with the schedule and it is proven in the likes of Dublin a Tuesday and Friday/saturday schedule works for a lot of the lads

I'm curious to the reasoning... Is it so that the lads can go on the LASH the weekend after a Friday night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 28, 2021, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2021, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on June 28, 2021, 03:29:21 PM
At this stage most players are fed up with the schedule and it is proven in the likes of Dublin a Tuesday and Friday/saturday schedule works for a lot of the lads

I'm curious to the reasoning... Is it so that the lads can go on the LASH the weekend after a Friday night?

A glass of wine with the mrs on a sat and a sunday drive with the wains is what I used to miss, used to love playing in Ulster League when it came out at the start-mostly saturdays but a lot of minors would have been working that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on June 28, 2021, 08:12:33 PM
Where is the feis this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 29, 2021, 10:18:20 AM
Doe anyone think 11th July a strange date for league playoffs?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 29, 2021, 10:18:20 AM
Doe anyone think 11th July a strange date for league playoffs?

No, have you a boney to be going to instead?

Apologies, the 11th falls on a Sunday, so I presume the boney will be on the Saturday night.

Lay off the Steiger and the dance biscuits and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 29, 2021, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 29, 2021, 10:18:20 AM
Doe anyone think 11th July a strange date for league playoffs?

Don't worry I don't think any of our panel hails from cullybackey or broughshane so we should be fine.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 29, 2021, 10:51:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 29, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 29, 2021, 10:18:20 AM
Doe anyone think 11th July a strange date for league playoffs?

No, have you a boney to be going to instead?

Apologies, the 11th falls on a Sunday, so I presume the boney will be on the Saturday night.

Lay off the Steiger and the dance biscuits and you'll be fine.

No i was referring more to the fact that most years its left free for holidays, or am I wrong on that? I know nothing about boneys on 11th or the technicalities around sats and suns. We have ours on 15th August no matter what the day is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on June 29, 2021, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on June 27, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
Don't know where it's coming from that the Laois match is in Portlaoise. Every official source has it TBC

Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/

It says that on the saffrongael website, dunno if its true or not, hopefully not

GAA website has it at Parnell Park. Good news
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on June 29, 2021, 10:52:13 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on June 29, 2021, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: Tormund on June 27, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: Craigyhill Terror on June 27, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
Don't know where it's coming from that the Laois match is in Portlaoise. Every official source has it TBC

Quote from: Tormund on June 26, 2021, 10:47:04 PM
Yea it has been a great year, the league campaign was absolutely brilliant!
If we can stay in the leinster for next year by beating Laois that'll be great.
Looks like the game v laois will be in laois, doesnt seem too fair, but sure lets go and win it

https://thesaffrongael.com/category/latest-news/hurling/

It says that on the saffrongael website, dunno if its true or not, hopefully not

GAA website has it at Parnell Park. Good news

That's good
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 03, 2021, 04:16:53 PM
Some result for Dublin, makes me feel a bit better about last weekend
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on July 05, 2021, 11:21:22 AM
I don't think I've given Dublin enough credit this year. They clearly are at that level now. They'll have to be at their best to cope with KK.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
I think its championship level now-we are seeing the real deal now in terms of where boys are at
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Helix. on July 06, 2021, 10:46:18 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
I think its championship level now-we are seeing the real deal now in terms of where boys are at

Under 20s vs Laois tonight in Navan at 7:30. I'd imagine laois Antrim would be similar level at this grade?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 06, 2021, 12:30:17 PM
Anybody know if that u20 game is being shown anywhere? I cant see it on Pairctv or anything on laois gaa twitter page, last weeks u20 and minor games v down were shown on Pairctv
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
U20 game not going too well :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 06, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
U20 game not going too well :(

4-27 to 0-7 FT Wasn't expecting that sort of beating
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 06, 2021, 09:00:17 PM
And Kildare beat Wexford?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 09:15:07 PM
Won by a point and scored the last two points with thirteen men too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on July 06, 2021, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 09:15:07 PM
Won by a point and scored the last two points with thirteen men too.

Fair play to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2021, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Up to this year Laois were beating us at Senior !! Lets see how well this Laois team do next game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:29:28 AM
The Laois game this weekend is far from a given too! That will be a tough game. League form counts for nothing now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2021, 11:54:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 11:29:28 AM
The Laois game this weekend is far from a given too! That will be a tough game. League form counts for nothing now.

I'd say Laois were always looking at us come championship, if our lads have got over the Dublin game then we have a great opportunity to beat them and get another crack at another top team, allow Laois a foothold in the game then we could struggle for teh whole game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Absolutely spot on, if we don't put more emphasis on our underage teams then it's hard to get new players to replenish our senior team. The last team that got the proper attention was the minor team Shorty, Mc Manus Hippie and co played on and they did good. We need some sort of plan and resources to improve it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 07, 2021, 12:29:53 PM
I found it interesting listening to an interview with McNaughton after one of the league games where he said they knew they were good hurlers but never had buy in before either at underage or senior. Probably not interesting in a good way mind you but didn't sound like full buy in to underage teams from what he was saying.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 07, 2021, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Kildare are really coming on, massive men too at all ages, Slaughtneilesque in terms of height
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2021, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 07, 2021, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Kildare are really coming on, massive men too at all ages, Slaughtneilesque in terms of height

They've always been big lads, that physical side of their game was always difficult to break down initially then our skill levels took over and we generally beat them, Carlow went that way also.

We've never been a big team in the modern times, you've got to go back to the 80's when we really had a big physical team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on July 07, 2021, 04:19:37 PM
Could make an argument out next minor team of the standard to the McManus, shorty, hippie team. Ironically the minor team which lost the ulster final 6/7 years ago? Thoughts?
Think 10 if that team are on the current panel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 07, 2021, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Absolutely spot on, if we don't put more emphasis on our underage teams then it's hard to get new players to replenish our senior team. The last team that got the proper attention was the minor team Shorty, Mc Manus Hippie and co played on and they did good. We need some sort of plan and resources to improve it.

Saw it suggested somewhere on twitter that the minor hurlers have conceded tonight's game against Meath.

If that is correct, it will have been a pretty grim 24 hours for Antrim hurling.

:-[
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 07, 2021, 05:58:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 05:57:51 PM
I haven't heard that regarding the minor? I hope not. If we have then that is probably worse than the hammering we took last night. Can anyone confirm?

Has there been drop outs due to Covid?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 07, 2021, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 07, 2021, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on July 07, 2021, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: groundlie on July 07, 2021, 10:48:57 AM
Should there be a root and branch review of hurling in antrim? I don't think Laois have ever beat us by 30+ points? The smoke screen of Gleesons seniors can't hide just how much we are struggling under age. Beaten by Kildare at minor last year and Laois yesterday. Not good.

Absolutely spot on, if we don't put more emphasis on our underage teams then it's hard to get new players to replenish our senior team. The last team that got the proper attention was the minor team Shorty, Mc Manus Hippie and co played on and they did good. We need some sort of plan and resources to improve it.

Saw it suggested somewhere on twitter that the minor hurlers have conceded tonight's game against Meath.

If that is correct, it will have been a pretty grim 24 hours for Antrim hurling.

:-[
Yea the minors are meant to be playing meath tonight, cant see anywhere online about the game being on.
Yea if that's true its been a pretty tough 24hrs for Antrim hurling
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 08, 2021, 11:31:59 AM
Down minors beat W-Meath in the U17's last night in Daver and move onto the semi-final in that competition.

Sad if Antrim minors have had to drop out, but surely there'd need to have been quite a few Covid cases for that to have happened..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 08, 2021, 11:34:40 AM
Did we not play down last week in this age group?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 08, 2021, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 08, 2021, 11:34:40 AM
Did we not play down last week in this age group?

Yes, the winners (Antrim) were to go into the Leinster minor championship proper last night and the losers (Down) went into the Peadar O Liathain Cup which they won the first round of last night..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 08, 2021, 01:37:37 PM
I cant see anything online about the minor game against meath that was due to be played last night. Why it didnt happen, if it was conceded etc. Its strange. You would think that Antrims gaa twitter or facebook page should give an update.
I wouldve fancied us to beat meath in minor hurling aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 08, 2021, 02:00:23 PM
Looking like Meath have proceeded into the next step of the competition;

https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/electric-ireland-leinster-minor-hurling-championship-2017/ (https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/electric-ireland-leinster-minor-hurling-championship-2017/)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 09, 2021, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 08, 2021, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 08, 2021, 11:34:40 AM
Did we not play down last week in this age group?

Yes, the winners (Antrim) were to go into the Leinster minor championship proper last night and the losers (Down) went into the Peadar O Liathain Cup which they won the first round of last night..

It seems we are down to play Carlow in the Peadar O Liathain semi final on Wednesday.

Did we just not think we were up to playing in the "A" competition?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 09, 2021, 07:41:11 PM
Team is named for tomorrow, strong team although Niall McKenna not named is a blow, he must be injured.
Its a huge game tomorrow, hopefully the lads can get the win! C'mon Antrim!


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 09, 2021, 08:58:21 PM
He's a big loss. Ciaran Johnston in midfield who hasn't played a lot. Interesting to see O'Brien in for Maskey. Huge game for us but hopefully the league form will stand us in good stead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 02:43:22 PM
Get Damon off before he's sent off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 02:46:10 PM
Antrim making poor decisions all over the park and Laois blowing us away with their shooting (15th minute).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 02:49:14 PM
Damon just been given a final warning. If Gleeson doesn't take him off it's poor game management.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 03:01:34 PM
We're a mile off it here. Passing, first touch and shooting very poor. 7 points in 29 minutes is not good enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 03:11:05 PM
We are getting destroyed all over the park. Laois have clocked up 20 points in the 1st half. Brutal stuff from Antrim getting blown away by a much much superior team. Can't see a 10 point turnaround in the 2nd half and struggling to pick an Antrim player who can be proud of his performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2021, 03:15:11 PM
This is really disappointing  :(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 10, 2021, 03:17:48 PM
This is just grim.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 03:22:00 PM
Grim, disappointing......and all the other words beside them in a thesaurus. Think the league has possibly given us false hope. Last few performances have been awful. We're so far off the pace  - chasing shadows.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on July 10, 2021, 04:08:44 PM
Really poor performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 04:10:50 PM
Diabolical. That's a big step backwards going to the Joe McDonagh next season. Deservedly so on the last couple of performances. Real sickener. Laois have sucker punched us today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Helix. on July 10, 2021, 04:12:21 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 03:22:00 PM
Grim, disappointing......and all the other words beside them in a thesaurus. Think the league has possibly given us false hope. Last few performances have been awful. We're so far off the pace  - chasing shadows.

Hard luck to Antrim terrible shame to go back to Joe McDonagh.A real sucker punch after league exploits. Laois seemed to turn up at the right time after a poor year!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 04:13:43 PM
Laois were brilliant and good value for the win. Slick performance!! Cheddar will be happy with that performance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 04:18:07 PM
Hard to argue with your points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
The amount of shots we had on goal that the keeper saved easily .....worst of all being McManus penalty.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on July 10, 2021, 04:24:38 PM
Personally id like to see an Antrim man take the reins now. A Shane Elliott, Dick oKane or Cormac Donnelly. These Southern guys are just papering over the cracks. We have talented guys but bringing someone from munster in is just not sustainable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2021, 04:59:41 PM
Didn't see the game,  was doing the stairway to heaven walk, so glad I did that considering the talk on here!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2021, 05:07:56 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 09, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
We don't need outside players we have the talent in our manager and players to win an all Ireland.

I've a feeling we will blow laois away on Sunday. We need to go for goal early and get stuck in from the start.

This was from earlier in the league! When reality strikes.. disappointing losing today and it seems we were bad based on the score, the team has met one of its goals and now list one of its other goals. Staying in div 1 is brilliant and McCarthy cup level has shown us that we aren't at that level yet, McDonagh cup is a superb competition, we can develop more players next year in it and gain more experience in division one.

Players will be all welcomed back by their clubs and the championship should be a cracker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
If gleeson wants to stay on he should be staying on no questions asked. It would be madness to not keep him on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 10, 2021, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2021, 05:15:28 PM
If gleeson wants to stay on he should be staying on no questions asked. It would be madness to not keep him on.

This times a hundred.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2021, 05:56:55 PM
It'll take a few seasons to get Antrim back to where they should be.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2021, 06:11:43 PM
Groundlie I think you have been sleeping since the early nineties. Further back than we have ever been :o where have you been when Westmeath Carlow Meath etc all getting the better of us.

Anyone know what exactly did happen our minors?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 07:22:34 PM
He's on the wind .....as Said above Gleeson deserves to stay on no questions asked. Look what's been achieved this season and last. The fact we're so gutted about today is because the bar has been raised higher than any manager over the past few seasons has achieved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 10, 2021, 07:39:08 PM
".....an Antrim man ......take the reins now"

Think there's a slightly implicit meaning in there if you read between the lines very carefully. What do you want Darren to do, carry water bottles?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on July 10, 2021, 08:00:12 PM
Had a bad feeling about today's match especially after the performance v The Dubs.

Cheddar had Laois switched into championship mode which is something Antrim have not been capable of doing over the years, with the exception of Dinny Cahill's teams.

Bad week for Antrim hurling with the U20 result and the minor team's situation.

Possibly got carried away with the league performances.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 10, 2021, 08:18:44 PM
Yeah I have to say I had a bad feeling too. The minor thing I still don't know if it is COVID related.

It's fine to in the end want an in house manager but gleeson committed , has got buy in and deserves a chance to build on what he has done if he is willing. He deserves massive credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on July 10, 2021, 08:34:12 PM
After a great league a poor championship, today was brutal as was the under 20s.
Could anyone on here explain what the hell is going on with the minors? Bizarre situation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 10, 2021, 09:00:38 PM
Im absolutely gutted from that match, we hit too many wides, didnt win enough ball, when we got possesion turned over in the backline it was so frustrating, i feel we dont have players running off the shoulder enough like the top teams do aswell.
But would be madness to question Gleesons position, we're still better than all those years losing to teams like westmeath and carlow. For me he's our best manager since dinny cahill. Darren Gleeson should get all our support!! i hope he stays on.
The joe mcdonagh will be tough to win next year, offaly will likely be in it and they look like they are on the way back.
Im just gutted
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 10, 2021, 09:10:00 PM
I don't know about how laois u20s prepare but I believe ours only really have been getting together once a week for about the past 6 weeks wouldn't really give you much time to know your colleagues
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 10, 2021, 10:26:20 PM
Gutted for the lads but we just weren't good enough. Pucks outs, turn overs, sloppy short passing, slow support play, Lots to work on. Even with all that we had them down but just wouldn't stamp on their throats.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 10, 2021, 10:45:38 PM
Quote from: up the rovers on July 10, 2021, 08:34:12 PM
After a great league a poor championship, today was brutal as was the under 20s.
Could anyone on here explain what the hell is going on with the minors? Bizarre situation.

Is that Anrim u16 in Celtic Challenge
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 11, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
In his interview after the game Gleeson said Antrim hurling needs to improve the structures drastically. Dont know exactly what structures, maybe its training facilities, coaching, the underage hurling setups, i dunno. But i hope its something they are looking at, with Neal Peden. I'd imagine funding is an issue to improve the structures much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2021, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Tormund on July 11, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
In his interview after the game Gleeson said Antrim hurling needs to improve the structures drastically. Dont know exactly what structures, maybe its training facilities, coaching, the underage hurling setups, i dunno. But i hope its something they are looking at, with Neal Peden. I'd imagine funding is an issue to improve the structures much.

Probably need to work towards getting the division 2 sides up to div1  level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tormund on July 11, 2021, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2021, 11:43:57 AM
Quote from: Tormund on July 11, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
In his interview after the game Gleeson said Antrim hurling needs to improve the structures drastically. Dont know exactly what structures, maybe its training facilities, coaching, the underage hurling setups, i dunno. But i hope its something they are looking at, with Neal Peden. I'd imagine funding is an issue to improve the structures much.

Probably need to work towards getting the division 2 sides up to div1  level

Yea, that could be it aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 11, 2021, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: Tormund on July 11, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
In his interview after the game Gleeson said Antrim hurling needs to improve the structures drastically. Dont know exactly what structures, maybe its training facilities, coaching, the underage hurling setups, i dunno. But i hope its something they are looking at, with Neal Peden. I'd imagine funding is an issue to improve the structures much.

It's something we need to address and not puck it further down the road. Quantifiable checklist that we can put in place. Don't like the sound of that word drastic. I know very very little but I'd start with the quality of coaches taking development squads. We need the highest quality of coaching to get up to speed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
What have you got against gleeson?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on July 11, 2021, 01:49:21 PM
Antrim have been nyamming about the 'structures' for years. Time for them to do a Kildare and start doing things themselves.

That Kildare U20 victory over Wexford didn't happen overnight. That's a result of 10 years of underage development.

Antrim have a chance to get things underway with Gaelfast, which unfortunately appears to be imploding with the project looking for its third manager since it began.

I'd say that Darren Gleason may have been referring to the U20 result during the week.

Good question as why Paul Donnelly left the Gaelfast set up. I was at one of the series of Gaelfast roadshows and was impressed with what was being rolled out. Did he jump from a sinking ship ???

I have to question the logic of a Gaelfast coach taking a series of football sessions at a primary school which is a feeder for a hurling only club. Apparently that is what the coach was instructed to do which would indicate an issue with communication.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 11, 2021, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: groundlie on July 11, 2021, 01:34:00 PM
Nothing. He's done amazing. It's more the principle of us perking our ears up when a Southern speaks. Sambo said it for years.

Sambo has had his chances over the years. His track record doesn't add up to much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on July 11, 2021, 04:47:04 PM
Decision making was poor yesterday, Darren has made great strides in this aspect of the game but will take more work from many more people

I go to loads of underage games and I see mentors shouting instructions to the man in possession all the time - this is the problem, we aren't coaching our players to make decisions for themselves on the pitch.  What we should be doing (imho) is letting the players make their own decisions on the pitch and providing/discussing learnings after

As I say that is just a small piece of a much bigger jigsaw that involves the number/quality of coaches, availability of suitable games, school ties, third level ed and development squads

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: up the rovers on July 11, 2021, 05:17:30 PM
I was talking to someone involved with the minors, apparently 3 lads tested positive for Covid and some of the others had to isolate as close contacts. Leinster council were asked for a postponement but refused and put Antrim into the lower competition. :-\
Precedent set by the Leinster council, I wonder would it happen to Kilkenny or Galway?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2021, 06:36:00 PM
Quote from: up the rovers on July 11, 2021, 05:17:30 PM
I was talking to someone involved with the minors, apparently 3 lads tested positive for Covid and some of the others had to isolate as close contacts. Leinster council were asked for a postponement but refused and put Antrim into the lower competition. :-\
Precedent set by the Leinster council, I wonder would it happen to Kilkenny or Galway?

No offence but should have drafted lads in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 12, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.

All these competitions are being run off on a week by week basis so there was probably no free slots and these lads would have had to isolate for 10 days.

Down now play Meath this Saturday with the final the following wednesday night.

Why not invite other lads into the panel? You'd be no worse off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 12, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.

All these competitions are being run off on a week by week basis so there was probably no free slots and these lads would have had to isolate for 10 days.

Down now play Meath this Saturday with the final the following wednesday night.

Why not invite other lads into the panel? You'd be no worse off.

Full Celtic Challenge panel to bring lads in from
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 12, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.

All these competitions are being run off on a week by week basis so there was probably no free slots and these lads would have had to isolate for 10 days.

Down now play Meath this Saturday with the final the following wednesday night.

Why not invite other lads into the panel? You'd be no worse off.

Full Celtic Challenge panel to bring lads in from

Was there not something about "tier 1" counties not being allowed to play lads in the Celtic Challenge and also the championship proper (Leinster in this case) ?

If they'd have pulled lads from the Celtic Challenge panel those lads then could no longer play in the Celtic Challenge..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2021, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 13, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 12, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.

All these competitions are being run off on a week by week basis so there was probably no free slots and these lads would have had to isolate for 10 days.

Down now play Meath this Saturday with the final the following wednesday night.

Why not invite other lads into the panel? You'd be no worse off.

Full Celtic Challenge panel to bring lads in from

Was there not something about "tier 1" counties not being allowed to play lads in the Celtic Challenge and also the championship proper (Leinster in this case) ?

If they'd have pulled lads from the Celtic Challenge panel those lads then could no longer play in the Celtic Challenge..

Possibly but you would like to prioritise minor team over Celtic Challenge if you have the 2 teams. We only enter u17 Celtic Challenge, its our level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2021, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2021, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 13, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 12, 2021, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 12, 2021, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 11, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
That adds up a bit more. I didn't think we had a fielding issue.

That's disgraceful if that is how it panned out. Shows little respect for the lower tier either.

All these competitions are being run off on a week by week basis so there was probably no free slots and these lads would have had to isolate for 10 days.

Down now play Meath this Saturday with the final the following wednesday night.

Why not invite other lads into the panel? You'd be no worse off.

Full Celtic Challenge panel to bring lads in from

Was there not something about "tier 1" counties not being allowed to play lads in the Celtic Challenge and also the championship proper (Leinster in this case) ?

If they'd have pulled lads from the Celtic Challenge panel those lads then could no longer play in the Celtic Challenge..

Possibly but you would like to prioritise minor team over Celtic Challenge if you have the 2 teams. We only enter u17 Celtic Challenge, its our level

Derry aren't tier 1 and IIRC can play the same squad in both the Celtic Challenge and the respective championship.

Down have done it for a few years pre covid.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on July 14, 2021, 10:08:25 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 06, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
U20 game not going too well :(

4-27 to 0-7 FT Wasn't expecting that sort of beating

Laois seem to have given Kilkenny their fill of it in the Under 20s last night - lost by 3 having led for 3/4s of the game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 14, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on July 14, 2021, 10:08:25 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 06, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 06, 2021, 08:26:25 PM
U20 game not going too well :(

4-27 to 0-7 FT Wasn't expecting that sort of beating

Laois seem to have given Kilkenny their fill of it in the Under 20s last night - lost by 3 having led for 3/4s of the game.

Kildare, Laois, Carlow, Meath and Westmeath putting in a lot of work underage.

Big men, close to hurling heartlands. Watched our u20s last night v Donegal, Donegal were very poor, played with sweeper from the beginning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
You should probably be playing a level up from that fear. Derry tend to be strong enough underage but just drop off at senior. (Though I suspect having such successful minor football teams this past few years has been detrimental to the hurling mind you)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 14, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 14, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
You should probably be playing a level up from that fear. Derry tend to be strong enough underage but just drop off at senior. (Though I suspect having such successful minor football teams this past few years has been detrimental to the hurling mind you)

B is strong enough this year though, Down and Meath will be hard to beat. Yes you are right, the u20 football and minor football team are littered with really good hurlers. Some clinkers there.
I think the experience against Kilkenny few years back at A was painful
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on July 15, 2021, 09:35:54 AM
Antrim Minor hurlers beat Carlow by a point last night in the Peadar O Liathain cup. 1-13 to 1-14

Down play Meath this Saturday in the same competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 15, 2021, 10:33:41 AM
Thats a good result
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2021, 11:13:28 AM
Fear I see the derry team got beat by the armagh team in the anrtrim league playoffs lol. (I jest - I think it's great having teams from other counties in. ).

Good result for Cushendun beating Glenariff who had been beating all round them in the league. Also good to see county players back playing - that Rossa Dunloy game sounded like a good one.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 15, 2021, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 15, 2021, 11:13:28 AM
Fear I see the derry team got beat by the armagh team in the anrtrim league playoffs lol. (I jest - I think it's great having teams from other counties in. ).

Good result for Cushendun beating Glenariff who had been beating all round them in the league. Also good to see county players back playing - that Rossa Dunloy game sounded like a good one.

Aye ran out of steam, we have 2 lads on Christy Ring panel who were not playing and guy from u20s who got injured against Donegal Tues, would have needed them(all forwards). Antrim has been so good for us down the years.
Yeah some going for Cushendun,Glenariff flying this year. Rossa and Dunloy looked good alright
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on July 15, 2021, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 15, 2021, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 15, 2021, 11:13:28 AM
Fear I see the derry team got beat by the armagh team in the anrtrim league playoffs lol. (I jest - I think it's great having teams from other counties in. ).

Good result for Cushendun beating Glenariff who had been beating all round them in the league. Also good to see county players back playing - that Rossa Dunloy game sounded like a good one.

Aye ran out of steam, we have 2 lads on Christy Ring panel who were not playing and guy from u20s who got injured against Donegal Tues, would have needed them(all forwards). Antrim has been so good for us down the years.
Yeah some going for Cushendun,Glenariff flying this year. Rossa and Dunloy looked good alright

Carey not merit a shout?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2021, 01:12:28 PM
Missed their result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 15, 2021, 09:24:04 PM
Carey would have been fancied to beat Clooney Gaels, or some would suggest it was a 50/50 game. Cushendun were underdogs going into their game. Glenariffe are seasoned intermediate hurlers. Cushendun are finding their feet at this level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 17, 2021, 03:21:32 PM
Laois beating Waterford with 15 minutes left.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2021, 03:21:58 PM
Laois level going into final quarter against Waterford
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 20, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
Just wondering what the situation is across the board, seeing more and more clubs now shutting for a Covid spike.

Are we nearing a complete shut down again for a period of time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 20, 2021, 11:44:17 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 20, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
Just wondering what the situation is across the board, seeing more and more clubs now shutting for a Covid spike.

Are we nearing a complete shut down again for a period of time?

Not much in Derry, Craigbane only club I heard of , not sure about Antrim, I think we get full season played
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 21, 2021, 04:02:53 PM
Where is this club located?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
I think their catchment is New Lodge up to Whitewell but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2021, 06:25:30 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
I think their catchment is New Lodge up to Whitewell but I could be wrong.
Newington, New Lodge, Carrick Hill and surrounding areas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Was there not a McCrakens team from Whiterock area years ago? Played in a maroon top
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 21, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Was there not a McCrakens team from Whiterock area years ago? Played in a maroon top

Yip, Based out of Turf?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 07:27:37 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on July 21, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Was there not a McCrakens team from Whiterock area years ago? Played in a maroon top

Yip, Based out of Turf?
Aye
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
Is that not prime Jannies/Gorts territory?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
Is that not prime Jannies/Gorts territory?

Johnnies traditionally don't pull from that area, you've Gorts and O'Dees, with O'dees primarily St James area.

The Johnnies way back in my day had Ballymurphy as a juvenile team that joined Commedagh in Championship to form St John's. They'd big numbers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on July 21, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL FUNDED PROGRAMME TO HELP... OH WAIT... GAELFAST
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 21, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL FUNDED PROGRAMME TO HELP... OH WAIT... GAELFAST

You have read that statement? They have everything in place, what remit has Gaelfast on this? They just want ratification to start up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on July 21, 2021, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 21, 2021, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on July 21, 2021, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: MoChara on July 21, 2021, 01:50:02 PM
a strong statement from the newly formed Henry Joys in North Belfast


All support for below Letter very welcome. Pm our page to help but please share far and wide.
A chairde
We have requested to be ratified since February of this year. We have faced our data including bank balances and names leaked to other units, we cant see anywhere in the official guide where by this is standard procedure to follow as only rule 3.3 talks of new clubs.
We have 30 plus hurlers at adult level wishing to go and 30 plus juveniles. We cannot understand why we have to go through other clubs for ratification as 3.3 does not mention this. We have put our hearts and souls into this, from creating community outreach via youth and migrants to getting local business support for rigs.
To date our county board has requested the following.
- get each committee officer trained
- each coach foundation and safeguarding trained
- each coach access ni applied
- evidence of finance to pay fees and purchase equipment
- evidence of a bank account
- list of committee members
- list of players
- letter of support from a local football club
- 5-10 year development plan
- justification for our name which no other club use
- source training venues in the community
- a copy of club constitution
- a financial plan going forward to
- minutes from our agm
- a delegation to meet county board
The above has all been completed at their request, I think this is well and above rule 3.3. our vice chair was now informed that all clubs now have a say in our club.
This decision making process does not seem to be gaa orientated. We do not want anything from Antrim county executive committee other than our ratification to register our games, to make it safe for our community to fully partake.
The camogie club which is part of our one club plan is already registered insured and functioning, their process began months later than our hurlers.
I am a gaa member my entire life, a massive Antrim fan, this is not a line i want to follow, nor did i ever think bringing people into the game would be so difficult. This is not a decision we have taken lightly.
To finish I will quote our chairperson follwing his election win, "Every child in every parish in Antrim should have the opportunity to play our national games and to aspire to play for their club and their county at senior level in our county stadium" Ciaran McCavana 4th December 2018, I whole heartedly agree with his statement, we just simply want ratification and know why there is a hold up.
Is mise le meas
Executive Committee
Henry Joys and Mary Anns GA&CC
IF ONLY THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE A CENTRAL FUNDED PROGRAMME TO HELP... OH WAIT... GAELFAST

You have read that statement? They have everything in place, what remit has Gaelfast on this? They just want ratification to start up.

The next county committee for clubs is on 6th Sept.  If you have all those steps in place , it is a strong starting point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2021, 11:47:56 PM
If they have ticked all those boxes then you can only assume they plan to take it seriously, so what's the issue preventing them from being centrally ratified?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2021, 07:24:28 AM
Does every existing club have those steps in place?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example

That's a poor comparison. East Belfast GAA is an attempt to tap into a new market. New Lodge have an under utilized GAA club on their doorstep.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 11:35:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 22, 2021, 10:48:18 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 22, 2021, 12:39:11 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 22, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
Ardoyne is very nearby. Why not play for them?

All teams that meet the criteria should be afforded the same opportunity to develop a club, east Belfast Gaels prime example

That's a poor comparison. East Belfast GAA is an attempt to tap into a new market. New Lodge have an under utilized GAA club on their doorstep.
I appreciate that there is an argument there but when you are ratifying Laochra Loch Lao and Colin Gaels in West Belfast, it's fairly weakened.

Laochra Loch Lao, ratified for similar reasons as East Belfast. That being, a unique concept (all operations through the medium of Irish). Colin Gaels a different matter and yes, probably comparisons with the New Lodge situation.

My concern is that there is an upward trend of amalgamations involving even large clubs in Belfast. Maybe there is room for another in the north of the city. Ardoyne is right there and well established. The GAA playing population of  the New Lodge could readily be facilitated there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
Is East Belfast not different as it's down county board?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 22, 2021, 02:41:19 PM
Pearse's as well up the road. Did I hear a couple of clubs up the glens closed for COVID?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2021, 08:44:53 PM
Great result for the camogiers yesterday. They seem to be going well again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on August 21, 2021, 08:59:08 PM
Very Quite ahead of championship

What's everyone's thoughts for Tuesdays games? & for the championship overall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 21, 2021, 10:24:22 PM
Dunloy should win the senior Championship. Intermediate - as per usual anyone could win it. Just look at last year. Creggan or Sarsfields for me. Cushendun a good outside bet. Glenarm for Junior.

Two stand out fixtures are Dunloy v Cushendall and Creggan v Sarsfields.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffball on August 22, 2021, 08:16:26 AM
Championship predictions

Senior
Rossa vs Ballycastle - Rossa by 5
St Endas vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10+
Dunloy vs Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Randalstown vs St Johns - St Johns by 10+

Intermediate
Armoy vs Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 7
Gort Na Mona vs Carey - Carey by 6
St Galls vs Glenariffe - DRAW
Creggan vs Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 5
St Paul's vs Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 3

Junior
Lamh Dhearg vs Ballymena - Lamh Dhearg by 3
Rasharkin vs Davitts - Rasharkin by 6
Glenravel vs St Teresa's - Glenravel by 5
Loch Mor dCais vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10+



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 22, 2021, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 21, 2021, 10:24:22 PM
Dunloy should win the senior Championship. Intermediate - as per usual anyone could win it. Just look at last year. Creggan or Sarsfields for me. Cushendun a good outside bet. Glenarm for Junior.

Two stand out fixtures are Dunloy v Cushendall and Creggan v Sarsfields.
Dunloy
Glenariff
Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 22, 2021, 08:33:06 PM
Wouldn't disagree with this

Quote from: Saffball on August 22, 2021, 08:16:26 AM
Championship predictions

Senior
Rossa vs Ballycastle - Rossa by 5
St Endas vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10+
Dunloy vs Cushendall - Dunloy by 3
Randalstown vs St Johns - St Johns by 10+

Intermediate
Armoy vs Ahoghill - Ahoghill by 7
Gort Na Mona vs Carey - Carey by 6
St Galls vs Glenariffe - DRAW
Creggan vs Sarsfields - Sarsfields by 5
St Paul's vs Cloughmills - Cloughmills by 3

Junior
Lamh Dhearg vs Ballymena - Lamh Dhearg by 3
Rasharkin vs Davitts - Rasharkin by 6
Glenravel vs St Teresa's - Glenravel by 5
Loch Mor dCais vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 09:08:48 PM
So far that's a pretty good set of predictions. Impressive getting the draw right. Still some results I don't see on intermediate.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 09:08:48 PM
So far that's a pretty good set of predictions. Impressive getting the draw right. Still some results I don't see on intermediate.

Yeah the draw is some call, by all accounts a fair result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 25, 2021, 07:32:55 AM
Think Creggan v Sarsfields is the only one missing: 3.19 to 0.18 in favour of Kickhams. Creggan clearly finished messing about in the league and straight into Championship mode with aplomb.

St Paul's sucker punched Cloughmills ......9 in it for Cloughmills at half time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2021, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 09:08:48 PM
So far that's a pretty good set of predictions. Impressive getting the draw right. Still some results I don't see on intermediate.

Yeah the draw is some call, by all accounts a fair result.

Any chance of a scoreboard ?  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 09:23:47 AM
Quote from: Minder on August 25, 2021, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 24, 2021, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 24, 2021, 09:08:48 PM
So far that's a pretty good set of predictions. Impressive getting the draw right. Still some results I don't see on intermediate.

Yeah the draw is some call, by all accounts a fair result.

Any chance of a scoreboard ?  ;)

I'd be happy with new changing rooms first
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 25, 2021, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment

We's struggle for numbers more years than not and regularly would be delving deep into the next agegroups down to get 15 on the field, for instance our U17's will have eight U15's on it later this evening. That's the reality of small rural clubs year on year but what I tell our coaches when we meet a team made up solely 16 and U17 yo's  is that there's not a lot you can do about how a 14 or 15yo performs against a 17yo so long as our 17yo's are the best hurlers on the pitch then never worry about the scoreboard..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 25, 2021, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment

We's struggle for numbers more years than not and regularly would be delving deep into the next agegroups down to get 15 on the field, for instance our U17's will have eight U15's on it later this evening. That's the reality of small rural clubs year on year but what I tell our coaches when we meet a team made up solely 16 and U17 yo's  is that there's not a lot you can do about how a 14 or 15yo performs against a 17yo so long as our 17yo's are the best hurlers on the pitch then never worry about the scoreboard..

Exactly ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: burdizzo on August 25, 2021, 04:38:04 PM
In the past I would have agreed, Milltown, that amalgamating is the easy - and worse - option. However, having been involved at underage myself, and in a club that DID amalgamate at underage, there's another side. On our own, we had barely had enough, and were always in the bottom half of the 'B' leagues. Now we have players from a nearby football club (who have no adult hurling outlet), and we're got to an 'A' championship shield final. So, it's about raising standards, too - and simply having numbers in the field at training can help in that regard, as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 25, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 25, 2021, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment

We's struggle for numbers more years than not and regularly would be delving deep into the next agegroups down to get 15 on the field, for instance our U17's will have eight U15's on it later this evening. That's the reality of small rural clubs year on year but what I tell our coaches when we meet a team made up solely 16 and U17 yo's  is that there's not a lot you can do about how a 14 or 15yo performs against a 17yo so long as our 17yo's are the best hurlers on the pitch then never worry about the scoreboard..

JC maybe you should amalgamate with some of your neighbours  ;) I am sure Portaferry / Ballycran (delete as appropriate) would be glad to have you  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 25, 2021, 04:51:37 PM
This isn't exact and I'm sure there are others, but in West Belfast alone there is:

Lower Falls  (2 clubs)
Upper Falls (1 club)
Glen Road (1 club)
Shaws Road (3 clubs)
Monagh Road/bypass (1 club)
Andersonstown Road (1 club)
Springfield Road  (0 clubs)
Stewartstown Road (1 club)
Finaghy Road (0 clubs)
Whiterock Road  (2 clubs)
Hannahstown/Old Springfield Road (1 club)

Would less clubs mean more clubs fielding 15 at under age? Given that many playing members are families with historical ties to the club, as opposed to players who live in the area (of which there are some). It's not clear cut.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 25, 2021, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 25, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 25, 2021, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment

We's struggle for numbers more years than not and regularly would be delving deep into the next agegroups down to get 15 on the field, for instance our U17's will have eight U15's on it later this evening. That's the reality of small rural clubs year on year but what I tell our coaches when we meet a team made up solely 16 and U17 yo's  is that there's not a lot you can do about how a 14 or 15yo performs against a 17yo so long as our 17yo's are the best hurlers on the pitch then never worry about the scoreboard..

JC maybe you should amalgamate with some of your neighbours  ;) I am sure Portaferry / Ballycran (delete as appropriate) would be glad to have you  ;D

whoever suggests that would be burned out of the parish FFS   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 25, 2021, 05:14:42 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 25, 2021, 06:53:26 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 25, 2021, 04:51:37 PM
This isn't exact and I'm sure there are others, but in West Belfast alone there is:

Lower Falls  (2 clubs)
Upper Falls (1 club)
Glen Road (1 club)
Shaws Road (3 clubs)
Monagh Road/bypass (1 club)
Andersonstown Road (1 club)
Springfield Road  (0 clubs)
Stewartstown Road (1 club)
Finaghy Road (0 clubs)
Whiterock Road  (2 clubs)
Hannahstown/Old Springfield Road (1 club)

Would less clubs mean more clubs fielding 15 at under age? Given that many playing members are families with historical ties to the club, as opposed to players who live in the area (of which there are some). It's not clear cut.

Far too many clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 25, 2021, 10:26:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment 
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment 

Extremely lazy analysis to imply that all amalgamations are people / clubs taking the easy option and shows an ignorance of the very real and genuine numbers in many small parishes and clubs.  There are amalgamations that most certainly are not the easy option, there are the only option.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 25, 2021, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 03:46:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

I honestly think its easier to amalgamate than put the effort in and find the kids to be involved. If you have 12 kids and 12 kids from another club sure that's a team ready made with two coaches from each club at the ready. 

Now I'm saying that and we have a team mixed with another at juvenile hurling, and great hurling lads looking after it, I can go back a few years and I remember looking after our underage, Id at least three age groups for under 12, I'd lads at 9 10 and 11 all looking to get on, I was doing this by myself, running tournaments and heading to tournaments, the thought never entered my head about joining up with someone else, so I just ploughed on with that crowd, produced 4 or 5 seniors from that set up, one who have went on and played in Croke Park for the club in a hurling final and the other 4/5 have played in a county hurling final.

People look for success quicker, stick and develop what you have, you can't compete every year, the bigger picture is enjoyment

Bit of self awareness MR2. The decline of small clubs, especially in rural areas is a common trend up and down the country. Amalgamations are do or die in many cases. But it's ok you played players from 3 different age groups ........which is against the rules by the way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
Wasn't against the rules when I was looking after these teams, so you're wrong on that part. I've also said that we have a current amalgamation at my own club, these are my views, I still believe you can make the numbers with hard work.

Nothing lazy about the effort I put in, at the time I made it work, the rules were different granted but the talent pool at proper age level was about 7/8 lads next grade down 5/6 lads and a couple of munchkins...

No one got hurt no one was being over worked the kids enjoyed it, the age rule has certainly brought on more amalgamations since it was introduced.

Was Sean Stinsons a needed amalgamation? Using them as a successful team that produced successive minor teams.. they looked to have plenty subs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 25, 2021, 11:49:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
Wasn't against the rules when I was looking after these teams, so you're wrong on that part. I've also said that we have a current amalgamation at my own club, these are my views, I still believe you can make the numbers with hard work.

Nothing lazy about the effort I put in, at the time I made it work, the rules were different granted but the talent pool at proper age level was about 7/8 lads next grade down 5/6 lads and a couple of munchkins...

No one got hurt no one was being over worked the kids enjoyed it, the age rule has certainly brought on more amalgamations since it was introduced.

Was Sean Stinsons a needed amalgamation? Using them as a successful team that produced successive minor teams.. they looked to have plenty subs

I'm sure the coaches, players and parents of players at your club, working hard with their amalgamation, will be delighted that you think they are not working as hard as you did when you were a top coach......again practice a little self awareness.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2021, 07:20:06 AM
Top coach? If you can point out where I said that please? That's 2 bits you've made up.

We didn't win too many games, it wasn't about winning and that's my point. Amalgamations in Belfast for 'big' clubs shouldn't be happening, clubs need to be doing what they years ago, working closely with schools.

As for own club and close friends coaching an amalgamation team that's up to them, they've a vested interest with their own kids, my nephew also on the team, but I feel we could have still got 20 kids.

I've said this countless times on here that we still have too many clubs in Belfast.

Take a look at the Antrim website and the fixtures/results page, how many games at juvenile level are played weekly compared to soccer games? Where is the consistency, how can you develop and keep kids interested if there are only a few games a season?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2021, 09:15:12 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 26, 2021, 08:04:07 AM
I think the games to training ratio at all levels in the GAA is something we need to consider but as Milltown says, for our kids it is the biggest barrier. Kids are being offered 6 or 7 competitive games in a year. Yet the soccer club up the road is able to provide a game every week for about 30 weeks on the trot for A, B and C teams.
Only for families rooted in clubs we'd be daffy ducked.

Agreed with games thing , only thing about soccer is that most lads stop in teens , massive drop out , worse than gaa
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on August 26, 2021, 09:28:13 AM
IMHO what Belfast hurling needs is a scheme or project to get more kids involved and provide coaching on the ground via primary schools etc... Sorry we had this and Gaelfast turned out to be a disaster show and consequently Antrim hurling will suffer and I'm sure eyes roll in Croker when Gaelfast is mentioned. From an outside of Belfast hurling fan I suppose with the correct people in charge this can be fixed.... MR2 are you interested...you have a good knowledge of the game and certainly have a good opinion of yourself.. Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2021, 09:37:54 AM
What happened with Gaelfast? We are pushing for something similar in Derry so if be interested to know where gaelfast went wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on August 26, 2021, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
Wasn't against the rules when I was looking after these teams, so you're wrong on that part. I've also said that we have a current amalgamation at my own club, these are my views, I still believe you can make the numbers with hard work.

Nothing lazy about the effort I put in, at the time I made it work, the rules were different granted but the talent pool at proper age level was about 7/8 lads next grade down 5/6 lads and a couple of munchkins...

No one got hurt no one was being over worked the kids enjoyed it, the age rule has certainly brought on more amalgamations since it was introduced.

Was Sean Stinsons a needed amalgamation? Using them as a successful team that produced successive minor teams.. they looked to have plenty subs

I certainly didn't suggest your effort was 'lazy'. But to imply all amalgamations are the easy option is just way off the mark. Some may well be, but I know for many small rural clubs it's the only way to survive.  And I would the percentage  participation levels in some of those small rural parishes is a lot higher than in many of clubs fielding on their own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on August 26, 2021, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2021, 09:37:54 AM
What happened with Gaelfast? We are pushing for something similar in Derry so if be interested to know where gaelfast went wrong

Reading between the lines, it was a Croke Park funded initiative but our own officials couldn't accept this and the lack of overall control that this created. So we did the usual thing and f**ked it up with internal wrangling's and power trips.

That about the long and the short of it?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 26, 2021, 11:12:43 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 26, 2021, 09:37:54 AM
What happened with Gaelfast? We are pushing for something similar in Derry so if be interested to know where gaelfast went wrong

Reading between the lines, it was a Croke Park funded initiative but our own officials couldn't accept this and the lack of overall control that this created. So we did the usual thing and f**ked it up with internal wrangling's and power trips.

That about the long and the short of it?

Send the dough up to us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 26, 2021, 12:07:22 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on August 26, 2021, 09:28:13 AM
IMHO what Belfast hurling needs is a scheme or project to get more kids involved and provide coaching on the ground via primary schools etc... Sorry we had this and Gaelfast turned out to be a disaster show and consequently Antrim hurling will suffer and I'm sure eyes roll in Croker when Gaelfast is mentioned. From an outside of Belfast hurling fan I suppose with the correct people in charge this can be fixed.... MR2 are you interested...you have a good knowledge of the game and certainly have a good opinion of yourself.. Lol

There were some things done years ago, I'd been to various training camps and coaching courses with were run by the county at Casement, Jim Nelson was heading them up, this was the start of the mini tournaments and pre go games..

great ideas came out of this and a lot of clubs started running their own tournaments at under 10 and under 12 level, competitive and fun, then the North Antrim indoor games, really good and the leagues ran as normal on a Monday night, but the kids were getting plenty of 'games'

I'm away from that side of things and as for having a big opinion of myself, we were not successful with the teams at juvenile that I looked after, but successful in keeping lads at the club who have went on to become senior players. That's the goal. Its how you measure success.

There are better men than me with a lot more knowledge, experience and coaching qualifications looking after these things, I'm not at the coalface anymore so I wouldn't come on here give off, my opinions I've stated, more regular games less Belfast teams or hurling only clubs, the dual thing is hitting hard, prevented two Belfast teams being in the final last year if  I'm being honest.

You've plenty of good ideas or gripes that you feel need fixing, you can apply or certainly help out too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffball on August 26, 2021, 12:50:39 PM
Predictions for second round of championship on Saturday

Senior
St Endas vs Rossa - Rossa by 8
Ballycastle vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 6
Cushendall vs St Johns - Cushendall by 5
Randlestown vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 10+

Intermediate
Ahoghill vs Gort Na Mona - Ahoghill by 8
Carey vs St Galls - Carey by 2
Glenariffe vs Armoy - Glenariffe by 6
Sarsfields vs St Paul's - Sarsfields by 5
Cloughmills vs Cushendun - DRAW

Junior
Davitts vs Lamh Dhearg - Lamh Dhearg by 7
Ballymena vs Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 5
St Teresa's vs Loch Mor dCais - St Teresa's by 8
Glenarm vs Glenravel - Glenarm by 10+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 26, 2021, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 26, 2021, 08:04:07 AM
I think the games to training ratio at all levels in the GAA is something we need to consider but as Milltown says, for our kids it is the biggest barrier. Kids are being offered 6 or 7 competitive games in a year. Yet the soccer club up the road is able to provide a game every week for about 30 weeks on the trot for A, B and C teams.
Only for families rooted in clubs we'd be daffy ducked.

we looked at the games thing four or five years ago and decided we didn't have enough games or variety of teams for our underage teams so we went and asked to get invited to every tournament going and run a few ourselves..

We were in Owenbeg a few Saturday mornings, North Antrim on a Sunday morning and then tournaments in Dungannon, Screen, and anyone going in Belfast we could get to as well as some in Dublin, heck we even had an U10 team in Ballyragget for the weekend.

If there's a will there's a way.

Covid has put the dampeners on everything but we hope to get back at it in the next year or so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2021, 07:19:06 PM
You're very active down there I find Jc. I would know a coach and parents of kids down that way well and they seem flat out running to matches. I remember, though I was a footballer, less than a handful of u10 games and not too many under 12 as there were no south west Antrim under 12 in those days. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on August 26, 2021, 09:26:48 PM

Senior
St Endas vs Rossa - Rossa by 10
Ballycastle vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 10
Cushendall vs St Johns - Cushendall by 6
Randlestown vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 20

Intermediate
Ahoghill vs Gort Na Mona - Ahoghill by 10
Carey vs St Galls -  St Galls by 3
Glenariffe vs Armoy - Glenariffe by 10
Sarsfields vs St Paul's - Sarsfields by 6
Cloughmills vs Cushendun - Cushendun by 3

Junior
Davitts vs Lamh Dhearg - Lamh Dhearg by 10
Ballymena vs Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 10
St Teresa's vs Loch Mor dCais - St Teresa's by 3
Glenarm vs Glenravel - Glenarm by 10
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on August 27, 2021, 03:23:32 PM
Senior
St Endas vs Rossa - Rossa by 6
Ballycastle vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 12
Cushendall vs St Johns - Cushendall by 8
Randlestown vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 20

Intermediate
Ahoghill vs Gort Na Mona - Ahoghill by 10
Carey vs St Galls -  St Galls by 2
Glenariffe vs Armoy - Glenariffe by 15
Sarsfields vs St Paul's - Sarsfields by 10
Cloughmills vs Cushendun - Cushendun by 3

Junior
Davitts vs Lamh Dhearg - Lamh Dhearg by 10
Ballymena vs Rasharkin - Rasharkin by 8
St Teresa's vs Loch Mor dCais - St Teresa's by 8
Glenarm vs Glenravel - Glenarm by 8
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2021, 01:39:02 PM
Nearly a clean sweep bar the Carey win.  Surprised how easy cushendall beat St. John's. Massive difference between intermediate and senior shown again.

Great win for the camogiers who are going well too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on August 30, 2021, 01:33:58 PM
Sad news coming out of the city this morning.

RIP Sean McGuinness, a mighty man and a complete gent.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Very sad. Did some great things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Very sad. Did some great things.
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 30, 2021, 01:33:58 PM
Sad news coming out of the city this morning.

RIP Sean McGuinness, a mighty man and a complete gent.

To echo what's been said, a hurling man to the core, was speaking to one of the sons on Saturday and it wasn't looking good, condolences to the family and his extended family at Sarsfields. Will be one voice I'll miss giving me some abuse!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on August 31, 2021, 08:06:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 30, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Very sad. Did some great things.
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 30, 2021, 01:33:58 PM
Sad news coming out of the city this morning.

RIP Sean McGuinness, a mighty man and a complete gent.

To echo what's been said, a hurling man to the core, was speaking to one of the sons on Saturday and it wasn't looking good, condolences to the family and his extended family at Sarsfields. Will be one voice I'll miss giving me some abuse!!

Sad news..

Used to travel with Sean to county training in my university days.. Some man for a story and was some craic but was always the boss..

Never forget the night I'd got into his car after we'd been beaten by Tipp in a NHL game in Thurles and he'd obviously gotten wind of most of the team being in the nightclub behind Hays hotel the night before..
My ears were ringing that night and one of the worse training sessions followed I'd ever had.

Condolences to the McGuinness family but they can be very proud of him, a man of his word.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 31, 2021, 12:10:23 PM
I thought there might have been some reference to Sean's passing on the Antrim Twitter account but not a word on it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
It was on their facebook account.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on August 31, 2021, 12:20:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
It was on their facebook account.

I'm not on Facebook so didn't see it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ck on September 02, 2021, 03:26:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on August 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: ck on August 25, 2021, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 22, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
It is great to see another club wanting to grow, but is there not a wider question needing to be asked when we are seeing more and more clubs amalgamating up through the ages groups. Clubs that would be considered to be well established clubs and cant even get 15 of their own kids out to field a team?

does this not exacerbate this specific situation even further?

The work is just not being done at underage to keep young people interested. Based on the Belfast population alone there should be far more clubs, not less.

Then why are there so many amalgamated clubs at underage level?

It's the lazy solution. The work is not being done at underage to keep them involved so they lose them. Then they amalgamate to field teams. It's shameful and rarely called out as it is. The schools and population is there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 04, 2021, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
Very sad. Did some great things.

Was sorry to hear this news. Good memories of the late 80s and early 90s when the Ulster Hurling Championship returned and gave us some great games and really grabbed attention for a while. McGuinness was a big part of that. Thoughts with his family.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
Looking like a big win for st endas.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 05, 2021, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
Looking like a big win for st endas.

Ballycastle away to hell & on the hook for an expensive enough managerial ticket this year too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 05, 2021, 04:18:01 PM
Rossa and Dunloy to Semis

Loughgiel v St Johns
Cushendall v St Endas
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 05:20:14 PM
Loughgiel St. John's a good one. I doubt that is an expensive managerial ticket.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 05, 2021, 05:32:33 PM
As things stand .......the pecking order is probably Dunloy, Rossa then Cushendal. Some might argue Dunloy, Cushendal then Rossa. Loughiel and St John's a bit behind again then St Endas. Ballycastle and Randalstown out of their depth.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 05, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 05, 2021, 05:32:33 PM
As things stand .......the pecking order is probably Dunloy, Rossa then Cushendal. Some might argue Dunloy, Cushendal then Rossa. Loughiel and St John's a bit behind again then St Endas. Ballycastle and Randalstown out of their depth.

Think most would agree with that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 05, 2021, 06:17:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 05, 2021, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 03:27:10 PM
Looking like a big win for st endas.

Ballycastle away to hell & on the hook for an expensive enough managerial ticket this year too

Doubt it..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 05, 2021, 06:19:43 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2021, 05:20:14 PM
Loughgiel St. John's a good one. I doubt that is an expensive managerial ticket.

You would be surprised
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 06, 2021, 08:35:19 AM
does anyone know if the quarter final winners is an open draw for the semis?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 06, 2021, 08:56:49 AM
Not quite sure its fair to say ballycastle are way off the mark.
On any other day they'd be st endas & competed alot better against rossa/loughuile than their opponents yesterday. That being said massive win for St.Endas and as club on the up can certainly only be a good thing for their own and the counties development.

Dunloy certainly the bench mark for a championship & have been for the last number of years. I'd agree they're closely followed by Roses/Cushendall. Then st johns/loughuile. I'd still pit St endas/bcastle at the same level. Unfortunately for Tir Na Nog credit for stepping up and congrats for winning intermediate last year but they're a team I don't think would even make an intermediate final this year and another few years back at intermediate probably do them best to progress.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 06, 2021, 09:30:44 AM
It was good to see Rossa beat a big name in Loughgiel. In fairness to Loughgiel they are in a rebuild phase bringing through a number of young players and they are not gone from the championship yet and are still a dangerous team. St Johns have not really put in a big performance this year yet and if they don't produce one soon this group of players will have missed their chance and their juvenile structures are not great. Great result for St Endas particularly in Ballycastle. Ballycastle a bit like Loughgiel have brought in a lot of young players this year but Loughgiel are managing to perform at a higher level. As others have said Dunloy are still the benchmark but there is a lot of hurling to be played yet and someone could surprise Dunloy in a one off match yet. Plenty to look forward to.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 06, 2021, 10:37:34 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 06, 2021, 09:30:44 AM
It was good to see Rossa beat a big name in Loughgiel. In fairness to Loughgiel they are in a rebuild phase bringing through a number of young players and they are not gone from the championship yet and are still a dangerous team. St Johns have not really put in a big performance this year yet and if they don't produce one soon this group of players will have missed their chance and their juvenile structures are not great. Great result for St Endas particularly in Ballycastle. Ballycastle a bit like Loughgiel have brought in a lot of young players this year but Loughgiel are managing to perform at a higher level. As others have said Dunloy are still the benchmark but there is a lot of hurling to be played yet and someone could surprise Dunloy in a one off match yet. Plenty to look forward to.

Johnies hit 1-26 yesterday and kept us honest to the death, Rossa hit 21 against 10 men for most of the match. Johnies definitely improved since last year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2021, 10:40:53 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 06, 2021, 10:37:34 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 06, 2021, 09:30:44 AM
It was good to see Rossa beat a big name in Loughgiel. In fairness to Loughgiel they are in a rebuild phase bringing through a number of young players and they are not gone from the championship yet and are still a dangerous team. St Johns have not really put in a big performance this year yet and if they don't produce one soon this group of players will have missed their chance and their juvenile structures are not great. Great result for St Endas particularly in Ballycastle. Ballycastle a bit like Loughgiel have brought in a lot of young players this year but Loughgiel are managing to perform at a higher level. As others have said Dunloy are still the benchmark but there is a lot of hurling to be played yet and someone could surprise Dunloy in a one off match yet. Plenty to look forward to.

Johnies hit 1-26 yesterday and kept us honest to the death, Rossa hit 21 against 10 men for most of the match. Johnies definitely improved since last year.

Loughgiel lost 5 players?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
Yes, the referee sent off 5 players ......oul soccer head on him there
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hurlingballs on September 06, 2021, 11:18:50 AM
No 1/4 finals not open, winner off st endas cushendall play Rossa, like wise other 1/4 final winner play dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2021, 11:35:05 AM
Cushendal v Rossa
St John's v Dunloy

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 06, 2021, 11:41:35 AM
Cushendall v Rossa
St John's v Dunloy

Rossa v Dunloy
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2021, 12:01:56 PM
Rossa v Cushendal could go either way .....then again so could St John's v Loughiel.

Can't wait to watch the games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 06, 2021, 12:11:30 PM
Championship shaping up nicely with a lot of evenly matched teams coming head to head.

Anyone giving St Endas any chance against cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2021, 12:38:02 PM
Don't think so -5/-6 .....something like that I reckon
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 06, 2021, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2021, 12:38:02 PM
Don't think so -5/-6 .....something like that I reckon

Only mentioned one in Irish news. Sounds like the ould discipline isn't up to scratch. 5 players like
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2021, 03:40:13 PM
I'd agree with what was said before. I would say Rossa likely second and cushendall third. St endas have clearly improved massively but cushendall you would still expect to be 5 to 10 points better.

Johnnies loughgiel a good one. Johnstons and Mccallin look to be playing again. I would say johnnies by two.

If cushendall play Rossa in the semi that would be a good one. I think Dunloy would have too much for whoever comes through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 09:49:12 AM
Protest at Casement later in support of the Shams case.

Bring a mate
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Right enough, they have a point. Move it to Saturday evening and get on with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Right enough, they have a point. Move it to Saturday evening and get on with it.

Agree 100%. Saturday at 7.30 in Ahoghill under lights. Solves all issues.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Right enough, they have a point. Move it to Saturday evening and get on with it.

Agree 100%. Saturday at 7.30 in Ahoghill under lights. Solves all issues.

Why not 4pm on the Sat. Lights for hurling is kack
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Right enough, they have a point. Move it to Saturday evening and get on with it.

Agree 100%. Saturday at 7.30 in Ahoghill under lights. Solves all issues.

Why not 4pm on the Sat. Lights for hurling is kack

Would the St Johns lads not wanna watch the Football final?

Aye, hurling under lights ain't much use.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 08, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
Surely supporters can already make both games.

Camogie over at 3.

Leaves 2.5 - hours to get to din silly.....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: saffman on September 08, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
Surely supporters can already make both games.

Camogie over at 3.

Leaves 2.5 - hours to get to din silly.....

Great idea. Sure the girls can just swap ends at half time and not worry about actually taking a 15 minute break or indeed water breaks.  Supporters can pay into the event but walk out immediately after the game, forget the presentation or even the main sporting event they have purchased a ticket for.

If they park inside the grounds, don't stop for anything to eat  and race up the roads at dangerous speeds they could absolutely take both games in

No idea what all the fuss is about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on September 08, 2021, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 08, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Right enough, they have a point. Move it to Saturday evening and get on with it.

St Johns have the small matter of a football championship match on Sunday 19th Sept, you saying they should play 2 days in a row?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 01:19:04 PM
Sat 11th - bring it forward 1 day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on September 08, 2021, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 01:19:04 PM
Sat 11th - bring it forward 1 day

I'm all for everyone getting the opportunity to support the camogie team, I fully endorse the statement by Loughiel, and don't want anyone to think I'm anti-camogie, but is there not a bye-law or rule which says you have to be notified 7 days in advance of a championship game? and this includes changing dates of matches? i might be wrong here but that might be why it just can't be changed on a whim????
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
Pretty sure there was a bye law that prevented the chairman from entering the field of play to stop a championship game going to free kicks - but common sense prevailed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on September 08, 2021, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
Pretty sure there was a bye law that prevented the chairman from entering the field of play to stop a championship game going to free kicks - but common sense prevailed

Yep, I'll bow to that one
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:54:32 PM
under lights at Portglenone!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 02:55:41 PM
7.30pm on Sunday at Portglenone under lights.

Players still can't go to Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 02:55:41 PM
7.30pm on Sunday at Portglenone under lights.

Players still can't go to Dublin.

Would you want your players heading down anyways? I'd prefer them relaxing at home preparing for a knockout game. That's just me if I was looking after a team
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 02:55:41 PM
7.30pm on Sunday at Portglenone under lights.

Players still can't go to Dublin.

Would you want your players heading down anyways? I'd prefer them relaxing at home preparing for a knockout game. That's just me if I was looking after a team

Ah I agree with you, but surely James McNaughton would like to see his sister playing on Croke Park?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 03:04:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 08, 2021, 02:55:41 PM
7.30pm on Sunday at Portglenone under lights.

Players still can't go to Dublin.

Would you want your players heading down anyways? I'd prefer them relaxing at home preparing for a knockout game. That's just me if I was looking after a team

Ah I agree with you, but surely James McNaughton would like to see his sister playing on Croke Park?

All day long, I'd be raging in fairness.. these dates were known though and the planning is what it is, will make for a decent game ... might head over after mine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 08, 2021, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 08, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: saffman on September 08, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
Surely supporters can already make both games.

Camogie over at 3.

Leaves 2.5 - hours to get to din silly.....

Great idea. Sure the girls can just swap ends at half time and not worry about actually taking a 15 minute break or indeed water breaks.  Supporters can pay into the event but walk out immediately after the game, forget the presentation or even the main sporting event they have purchased a ticket for.

If they park inside the grounds, don't stop for anything to eat  and race up the roads at dangerous speeds they could absolutely take both games in

No idea what all the fuss is about

1.30 throw in. Over at 2.30.

Allowed 30 mins for half time/ presentations.

Leaves 2hrs 30 for a 2 hr journey.

No need for the smart reply

That being said game now moved back to 7.30 so shouldn't be any issues. I 100% agree with this in allowing those to attend both games being able to do so.

Regards specific players, county hurling and camogie games clash regularly it's part and parcel. I'm sure they understand it is what it is. Funny how said players aren't the ones making any noise but rather head down concentrating on the job at hand.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 08, 2021, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:54:32 PM
under lights at Portglenone!

This is worse than the original fixture. Hurling under lights is not the answer.

Should have been played Saturday 2pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: breakingball on September 08, 2021, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2021, 02:54:32 PM
under lights at Portglenone!

This is worse than the original fixture. Hurling under lights is not the answer.

Should have been played Saturday 2pm.

Yeah that sounds better
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sportacus on September 08, 2021, 10:39:23 PM
I don't seem to be able to read the comments and suggestions on the Antrim social media pages on FB and Twitter.  Anyone else having the same problem?
Personally I think the proposed solution isn't a solution at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 08, 2021, 10:39:23 PM
I don't seem to be able to read the comments and suggestions on the Antrim social media pages on FB and Twitter.  Anyone else having the same problem?
Personally I think the proposed solution isn't a solution at all.

They've deleted them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 09, 2021, 09:35:47 AM
The county never do themselves any favours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2021, 09:50:02 AM
2 step forwards & 10 back.

Another season and another mess.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 09, 2021, 12:09:55 PM
Fixtures were well know in advance, LG knew if they didnt beat Rossa they were in the QF.

Simple solution if they wanted to get down to see the camogs was to beat Rossa, job done  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
Good result for cushendun beating Creggan. They seem to have improved a good bit this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
The Intermediate championship is really heating up in the groups...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 09, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
The Intermediate championship is really heating up in the groups...

is it working the same as senior, top through then 2nd and 3rd into quarter finals? or top 2 straight to semi
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 02:40:36 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 09, 2021, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
The Intermediate championship is really heating up in the groups...

is it working the same as senior, top through then 2nd and 3rd into quarter finals? or top 2 straight to semi

Straight into semi's I think
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Sportacus on September 09, 2021, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 08, 2021, 10:39:23 PM
I don't seem to be able to read the comments and suggestions on the Antrim social media pages on FB and Twitter.  Anyone else having the same problem?
Personally I think the proposed solution isn't a solution at all.

They've deleted them
Did they really?  They are censoring comments from their own members?  That's pretty serious if true.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 09, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
It's the new reality, if you speak against the official line you get shut down. We should all know that by now lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 09, 2021, 04:42:54 PM
I'll concede that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 09, 2021, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 09, 2021, 01:32:08 PM
The Intermediate championship is really heating up in the groups...

Interesting scenarios ahead:

Oisins go to Carey and win, they go through and Carey go out.

Incredibly Cushendun could still go out having won all their games so far. If they lose by X amount at Sarsfields and Creggan beat St Paul's by X amount, which I imagine they will.

Going to be some excitement.

Don't think St Galls will beat Ahoghill at Ahoghill. They need to to reach the semis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 09, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
It's the new reality, if you speak against the official line you get shut down. We should all know that by now lol.

We're the new North Korea  :D

Poor show if all deleted.

Intermediate hurling looks interesting alright. I don't think cushendun will be beat by sarsfields though stranger things have happened. Is that eunan McKillop who used to play for cushendall playing for them?

Glenariff are really starting to make an impression at underage level but probably a bit too soon for senior level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 09, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 09, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
It's the new reality, if you speak against the official line you get shut down. We should all know that by now lol.

We're the new North Korea  :D

Poor show if all deleted.

Intermediate hurling looks interesting alright. I don't think cushendun will be beat by sarsfields though stranger things have happened. Is that eunan McKillop who used to play for cushendall playing for them?

Glenariff are really starting to make an impression at underage level but probably a bit too soon for senior level.

Not at all. They've 2 good teams  and it's nothing to do with structures or coaching. They've 'borrowed' a few players from other clubs at those age groups. U7, U9, U11, U13 ....they're poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 09, 2021, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 09, 2021, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 09, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on September 08, 2021, 10:39:23 PM
I don't seem to be able to read the comments and suggestions on the Antrim social media pages on FB and Twitter.  Anyone else having the same problem?
Personally I think the proposed solution isn't a solution at all.

They've deleted them
Did they really?  They are censoring comments from their own members?  That's pretty serious if true.

Go and see if you can read them, absolute shambles. Complete a-holes of the highest order.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 09:21:36 PM
Likewise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 09, 2021, 09:36:00 PM
They're strong at U15 and Minor due to players coming in to their starting 15 from 3 other nearby clubs. The rest of their teams are average and below. Whether coincidental or not, these teams are made up exclusively of Oisins players.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 09, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 09, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 09, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
It's the new reality, if you speak against the official line you get shut down. We should all know that by now lol.

We're the new North Korea  :D

Poor show if all deleted.

Intermediate hurling looks interesting alright. I don't think cushendun will be beat by sarsfields though stranger things have happened. Is that eunan McKillop who used to play for cushendall playing for them?

Glenariff are really starting to make an impression at underage level but probably a bit too soon for senior level.

Not at all. They've 2 good teams  and it's nothing to do with structures or coaching. They've 'borrowed' a few players from other clubs at those age groups. U7, U9, U11, U13 ....they're poor.

Ah come on now that's verging on being mean spirited  :D

The u-15 team I would say has 12/13 of the starting 15 born and bred Glenariffe, and have won the 1st Div Antrim Feile for the first time in the clubs history. The u-17 team would be 10 Glenariffe & 5 "others" I would say, the others from Cdun & Glenarm don't have underage teams so what do you propose they do, retire ? So without the blow ins I would say those two "good teams" at u-15 & u-17 would be very competitive at Div 1 in both grades. That has everything to do with coaching and structures, considering we were struggling to field at some underage grades not a million years ago.

The right people are doing the right jobs when it comes to coaching.

You are right about the u-7s though, they would need to get their finger out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 09, 2021, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 09, 2021, 09:36:00 PM
They're strong at U15 and Minor due to players coming in to their starting 15 from 3 other nearby clubs. The rest of their teams are average and below. Whether coincidental or not, these teams are made up exclusively of Oisins players.

Sometimes you just get a couple of very good cycles, very few clubs are strong at every age group. Especially not a parish the size of Glenariffe. Who know those u-7s & u-9s might not be write offs just yet.........
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 09:46:34 PM
There are wee pockets of families coming through that clubs that size need.(same in most rural clubs tbf)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on September 09, 2021, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 09, 2021, 09:46:34 PM
There are wee pockets of families coming through that clubs that size need.(same in most rural clubs tbf)

As long as everyone is getting a chance to play at those ages I would be relaxed enough about it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 10, 2021, 07:28:04 AM
Winning helps though I wouldn't get too worried about the under 7s or under 9s just yet ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 10, 2021, 08:09:21 AM
I could be wrong but is there not an ex Ballymena hurler playing for Dunloy? When they folded at Un14 he went out there. Cushendall won a minor championship with a Cushendun and a Glenravel man on their team a few years ago.

Aslong as lads & ladies aren't walking away from the games, let them get hurling or football wherever they can.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on September 10, 2021, 01:16:08 PM
You need to get rid of the under 7 management...lol.

Would love it if the Oisins became any sort of contender at senior level. That's where I got my first gaa interest, watching a good Glenariffe team prepare for the Volunteer Cup final bank in 1970. Loughgiel bate them in the final up in Ballycastle but myself and my cousin's were too small to see over the wire, so we played 3 a side soccer on the banks alongside the pitch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 11, 2021, 11:30:40 AM
Loughgiel V St. Johns

Johnnies at 15/8 is a tasty enough price. I'd almost have them as favorites.

Cushendall V St Endas


Endas @ 9/1. If I'm being honest I think they're abit further out than that. Could give me 15/1 and I still wouldn't touch it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 12, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Rossa, Dunloy and Loughgiel/ St John's won't lose any sleep if they seen that Cushendall performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 08:07:06 PM
St John's the better team upon typing this. Shamrocks will have to find another level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 12, 2021, 08:18:12 PM
Paddyjohn

You never hurled a ball in your life. A Ballymena hurler has. The closest you'll get is the Sunday Game. Your opinion is like your hurling it's not relevant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
Cushendall v Rossa
St John's v Dunloy

Top 4 teams in the county make it to the semi finals. Loughiel feeling a bit aggrieved with Mark O'Neill but St John's were the better team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 09:07:03 PM
Don't think they're off the pace. That's their level at the minute. They're in transition and arguably should have started a year or two earlier.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 12, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
About three or four years ago they had a team that probably should have won the championship (beat in the semi after a replay by cushendall) and they just haven't seemed at that level since. It kind of feels like their ship has sailed.

Cushendall Rossa should be a real good one. I think Dunloy will have too much for St. John's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 12, 2021, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 09:07:03 PM
Don't think they're off the pace. That's their level at the minute. They're in transition and arguably should have started a year or two earlier.
Off the pace meaning:

behind the leader or leading group in a race or contest.

I'm content with my statement.

Apologies, I read it that you felt they didn't perform as well as they possibly could.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 12, 2021, 09:20:15 PM
St John's have been knocking doors for a few years now but is this the first time in a long time that they've taken a championship scalp off Dunloy/Cushendall/Loughgiel?

Look at Tyrone when they finally beat a big 3 team.....

Can't see them beating Dunloy. Dunloy are a different animal. If they'd have drawn Cushendall I'd have fancied them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 12, 2021, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: Hejustkeepsdroppingballs on September 12, 2021, 08:18:12 PM
Paddyjohn

You never hurled a ball in your life. A Ballymena hurler has. The closest you'll get is the Sunday Game. Your opinion is like your hurling it's not relevant

??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 13, 2021, 07:56:40 AM
St Johns the better side by far should have won by more.

Don't know what the comment about MO'N was about there was nothing in it either way and for once he called LG on a few tight calls, maybe they are just not used to that from him.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on September 13, 2021, 08:31:05 AM
Certainly a good days hurling!

St. Endas put in a performance that certainly suggests they belong in senior championship. As for Cushendall, they were kept honest got the result will be glad to have gotten over a no win games and build for Rossa.

Loghuile v St johns was a great battle that really could have went either way, both teams can look at certain incidents in isolation but bottom line is St Johns have been knocking on the door for quite a few years now and probably did deserve it.

Don't you just love championship season!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 08:51:54 AM
Intermediate fascinating as always. All but decided; Clooney Gaels, Creggan, Cushendun and Glenariffe through to semi finals...

Unless...

Carey can beat Gort Na Mona by 25 points in their rescheduled game. Gort Na Mona's biggest defeat has been -20 points away to Clooney Gaels.

Not looking good for Carey.

Cushendun have had the best season out of all the teams in Division 2 and Intermediate Championship. Very very hard to call.

1)Creggan 2)Clooney Gaels 3)Glenariffe 4)Cushendun
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fermanaghstan on September 13, 2021, 11:29:38 AM
Cushendun possible favourites at this stage, Glenariffe have a few starters injured from what I hear. Creggan always a good championship team but hard to look past a Clooney vs Cushendun final.

Can't rule out Carey, hit 6 goals vs Armoy so have the ability to tag on a large score vs a Gort Na Mona side with nothing to play for.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: Fermanaghstan on September 13, 2021, 11:29:38 AM
Cushendun possible favourites at this stage, Glenariffe have a few starters injured from what I hear. Creggan always a good championship team but hard to look past a Clooney vs Cushendun final.

Can't rule out Carey, hit 6 goals vs Armoy so have the ability to tag on a large score vs a Gort Na Mona side with nothing to play for.

Don't see it. They conceded 0-20 in that same game.

They'll not beat them by 25 in Turf Lodge.

Cushendun have had a great season but I can't see them winning the intermediate this year. A step too far at this stage. League form will matter little come knockout hurling. The seasoned intermediate teams should have too much experience.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2021, 01:04:56 PM
Creggan will win it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2021, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 13, 2021, 01:04:56 PM
Creggan will win it

I wouldn't rule out Clooney gaels yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on September 13, 2021, 04:59:37 PM
Predictions for Senior, Intermediate and Junior?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 05:08:01 PM
Dunloy, Creggan and Glenarm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 13, 2021, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 05:08:01 PM
Dunloy, Creggan and Glenarm

Wouldn't disagree with that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2021, 07:18:34 PM
Dunloy, Clooney & Glenarm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2021, 07:18:34 PM
Dunloy, Clooney & Glenarm.

What would you know about hurling  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 13, 2021, 09:06:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 13, 2021, 07:18:34 PM
Dunloy, Clooney & Glenarm.

What would you know about hurling  ;D

I know.. I'm just a mouthpiece  ;
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Getting wind that Carey/Glenariffe are heading for a knockout game if/when Carey beat Gort Na Mona.

Assuming they finish on equal points and given they drew their fixture, it's head to head results count and not score difference.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 13, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Getting wind that Carey/Glenariffe are heading for a knockout game if/when Carey beat Gort Na Mona.

Assuming they finish on equal points and given they drew their fixture, it's head to head results count and not score difference.

Only fair.....unless Carey wallop Gort na Mona...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: ned on September 13, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Getting wind that Carey/Glenariffe are heading for a knockout game if/when Carey beat Gort Na Mona.

Assuming they finish on equal points and given they drew their fixture, it's head to head results count and not score difference.

Only fair.....unless Carey wallop Gort na Mona...

They are never going to beat them by the 25 points required.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2021, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: ned on September 13, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 09:44:28 PM
Getting wind that Carey/Glenariffe are heading for a knockout game if/when Carey beat Gort Na Mona.

Assuming they finish on equal points and given they drew their fixture, it's head to head results count and not score difference.

Only fair.....unless Carey wallop Gort na Mona...

They are never going to beat them by the 25 points required.

It would be decided on score difference
But if GNM didnt field it would be a play off !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:19:09 PM
Interesting, but with the fixture in Turf Lodge, why wouldn't they field?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2021, 10:33:50 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:19:09 PM
Interesting, but with the fixture in Turf Lodge, why wouldn't they field?

The match hasnt been refixed or listed to be refixed. 
I would've thought it would be played before the last round of fixtures. It looks like it has been conceded.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 10:59:21 PM
Surely points difference is the first tie breaker, regardless of head to head & if you use head to head as a tie breaker, you can't separate then you go to points difference. It's bizarre
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2021, 11:03:28 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.

It looks like.... doesnt mean that it has been though! Just an opinion.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2021, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 10:59:21 PM
Surely points difference is the first tie breaker, regardless of head to head & if you use head to head as a tie breaker, you can't separate then you go to points difference. It's bizarre

Head to head was a draw.
Then
Score difference would be used , if all games played.
If a game involving the tied teams is conceded  it will go to a play off game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential

But if and I'm not sure if it's being played or not, if the other team concedes how is it fair on the team that may have a chance?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential

But if and I'm not sure if it's being played or not, if the other team concedes how is it fair on the team that may have a chance?

Did the first poster not say it would be a playoff game if and when Carey beat GNM ? That's what's confusing me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 11:14:58 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential

But if and I'm not sure if it's being played or not, if the other team concedes how is it fair on the team that may have a chance?

Did the first poster not say it would be a playoff game if and when Carey beat GNM ? That's what's confusing me

Not sure but yes head to head first then score difference is used, providing obviously all games are played. Should be an automatic score (let's say 20 points) given for a conceded game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 13, 2021, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on September 13, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
Dunloy & Cushendall finished level on points in their group, drew head to head - Dunloy progressed to semis on better score differential

But if and I'm not sure if it's being played or not, if the other team concedes how is it fair on the team that may have a chance?
That's the reason, why the rule was amended. So that a team cant be penalised for another team not fielding against them.
Your are right , the remaining game may be played, I presume the CCC will sort it out tonight !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fermanaghstan on September 14, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.

Very poor from Gort Na Mona, they messed Glenariffe and Ahoghill about in the group stage last year also. If they can't field they should be penalised, an extra game puts the winner at a disadvantage heading into a semi-final. I have heard rumours that Gorts are waiting to see how their football clash with St Galls goes this weekend before agreeing to anything.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on September 14, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Fermanaghstan on September 14, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.

Very poor from Gort Na Mona, they messed Glenariffe and Ahoghill about in the group stage last year also. If they can't field they should be penalised, an extra game puts the winner at a disadvantage heading into a semi-final. I have heard rumours that Gorts are waiting to see how their football clash with St Galls goes this weekend before agreeing to anything.

Could I ask an obvious question....where has the information come from that GNM have conceded? or is this just the usual keyboard speculation? The original game was cancelled due to Covid i believe, I am sure it is just a matter of refixing this game, possibly next week?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fermanaghstan on September 14, 2021, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on September 14, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Fermanaghstan on September 14, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 13, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Unreal. That damages the integrity of the competition. Poor form on Gort's behalf. I'm sure Glenariffe will feel aggrieved. That said it's a great extra fixture for us neutrals. Neutral venue you'd have to assume. Cushendun possibly.

Very poor from Gort Na Mona, they messed Glenariffe and Ahoghill about in the group stage last year also. If they can't field they should be penalised, an extra game puts the winner at a disadvantage heading into a semi-final. I have heard rumours that Gorts are waiting to see how their football clash with St Galls goes this weekend before agreeing to anything.

Could I ask an obvious question....where has the information come from that GNM have conceded? or is this just the usual keyboard speculation? The original game was cancelled due to Covid i believe, I am sure it is just a matter of refixing this game, possibly next week?

Carey players have been told the game is fixed for next Tuesday evening, as far as they are aware Gorts haven't confirmed if they will play or not.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on September 15, 2021, 01:24:59 PM
This post on Twitter seems to be doing the rounds about the glenravel fella. None of these trolls are willing to grab a whistle
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 15, 2021, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on September 15, 2021, 01:24:59 PM
This post on Twitter seems to be doing the rounds about the glenravel fella. None of these trolls are willing to grab a whistle

Wasn't a great tackle but by all accounts both teams were leaving a bit on each other and there was no linesmen there, really tough one for a ref, maybe didnt have a great view and has a split second to make a decision. but as you say easy to criticise a referee from the other end of a computer screen
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 15, 2021, 05:42:24 PM
Dirty slap. Could have broken his leg.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on September 15, 2021, 08:04:52 PM
Gort Na Mona v Carey next Tuesday night at the Dub apparently
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on September 16, 2021, 10:22:59 AM
 I hear rumours that a serious row is brewing between Cushendall and Co chair over fixture v Rossa at Dunsilly and its turning nasty. Any clarity on this?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 16, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 16, 2021, 10:22:59 AM
I hear rumours that a serious row is brewing between Cushendall and Co chair over fixture v Rossa at Dunsilly and its turning nasty. Any clarity on this?

Did you not see the comedic letter sent by Cushendall? It's parody. There's also a letter of response, allegedly from the county chair, which simply cannot be real.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 16, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 16, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on September 16, 2021, 10:22:59 AM
I hear rumours that a serious row is brewing between Cushendall and Co chair over fixture v Rossa at Dunsilly and its turning nasty. Any clarity on this?

Did you not see the comedic letter sent by Cushendall? It's parody. There's also a letter of response, allegedly from the county chair, which simply cannot be real.

Anyone with a link or the gist of it don't be afraid to pm it on  :-X
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 16, 2021, 02:03:53 PM
Do you think Cushendall raise valid concerns or was the county chair correct to respond in the manner that he did?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Calm Down on September 16, 2021, 02:50:18 PM
Throw it up, when has anyone on this board been concerned about outing people/things whether true or not

Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 16, 2021, 02:03:53 PM
Do you think Cushendall raise valid concerns or was the county chair correct to respond in the manner that he did?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dunsilly King on September 16, 2021, 06:57:50 PM
I got the letter the Cushendall club allegedly sent,  ifs it's genuine then Cushendall need to wise up, its hilariously embarrassing. Whoever agreed to write and then agreed to send on behalf of that club need hunted from around the club. A list of nonsense excuses. It can't be real? The response is also funny as it doesn't take the initial complaints to seriously. I'm sure there are both fake.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 16, 2021, 08:20:34 PM
Letter from Cushendall is legit - I feel. First 2 paragraphs were ok but the last paragraph must have been written by a P4 learning how to write an argument for the 1st time:

- supporters and players have to go to mass.
- farmers have to feed the cows.
- you will miss your lunch so you will.

People who haven't seen the letter will think I'm joking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 17, 2021, 12:33:22 AM
Was listening to a few Tyorne players talking about 'culture' and a culture of winning.

Got me thinking about us and Casement and how we've performed there and how few big games we've ever won. Have we won just 2 senior Ulster championship GAMES in 40 years there?

Am I wrong in thinking that our last Ulster football championship win there was 2003 v Cavan?

Our last u-21 championship win at Casement was v Armagh in 2003

Our last Minor championship win there was v Donegal in 1998??

If we don't win at underage we most likely won't win at senior...what do we do?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 17, 2021, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Gold on September 17, 2021, 12:33:22 AM
Was listening to a few Tyorne players talking about 'culture' and a culture of winning.

Got me thinking about us and Casement and how we've performed there and how few big games we've ever won. Have we won just 2 senior Ulster championship GAMES in 40 years there?

Am I wrong in thinking that our last Ulster football championship win there was 2003 v Cavan?

Our last u-21 championship win at Casement was v Armagh in 2003

Our last Minor championship win there was v Donegal in 1998??

If we don't win at underage we most likely won't win at senior...what do we do?


What about the hurlers?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 17, 2021, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: Gold on September 17, 2021, 12:33:22 AM
Was listening to a few Tyorne players talking about 'culture' and a culture of winning.

Got me thinking about us and Casement and how we've performed there and how few big games we've ever won. Have we won just 2 senior Ulster championship GAMES in 40 years there?

Am I wrong in thinking that our last Ulster football championship win there was 2003 v Cavan?

Our last u-21 championship win at Casement was v Armagh in 2003

Our last Minor championship win there was v Donegal in 1998??

If we don't win at underage we most likely won't win at senior...what do we do?

Your clubs arent strong enough(football). Fullstop.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2021, 10:27:38 AM
In football or in hurling? (Or both?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 17, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
Wonder would someone be good enough to take one player from that Tyrone team, pretty sure you could take any one of them.

Plot their journey from under age, the whole way through development squads, schools systems, college systems, finally into minor/ u20/ senior squads.

Track the amount of time spent on them at each of these stages by quality interventions, see the money it has taken to get them through the system to the All Ireland final day, track the man hours it has taken and the support around this system.

If you do that for one single player you will start to have an idea why we are so far behind and will continue to be so until the gap is addressed at all levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 17, 2021, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 17, 2021, 10:27:38 AM
In football or in hurling? (Or both?)

Football-hurling has massive potential
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 17, 2021, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
Wonder would someone be good enough to take one player from that Tyrone team, pretty sure you could take any one of them.

Plot their journey from under age, the whole way through development squads, schools systems, college systems, finally into minor/ u20/ senior squads.

Track the amount of time spent on them at each of these stages by quality interventions, see the money it has taken to get them through the system to the All Ireland final day, track the man hours it has taken and the support around this system.

If you do that for one single player you will start to have an idea why we are so far behind and will continue to be so until the gap is addressed at all levels.

Yeah...would be very interesting to see

Take Tyrone though....the whole county, Man, woman and child know when they have a game. They defend their county to the hilt on any issue and see their football team as an extension of themselves,  as defining them

We don't have that at all, nowhere near the gra. We forever are begging our best players to commit and play for us (Winker, Fitzsimmons in football etc).

Been refreshing to have the buy in (which should be the expected) of the best hurlers in the county this year

I hope their is a  change to the norm with the appointment of  G Adams in football and gaelfast but time will tell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Gold on September 18, 2021, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 18, 2021, 12:01:47 AM
Quote from: Gold on September 17, 2021, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 17, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
Wonder would someone be good enough to take one player from that Tyrone team, pretty sure you could take any one of them.

Plot their journey from under age, the whole way through development squads, schools systems, college systems, finally into minor/ u20/ senior squads.

Track the amount of time spent on them at each of these stages by quality interventions, see the money it has taken to get them through the system to the All Ireland final day, track the man hours it has taken and the support around this system.

If you do that for one single player you will start to have an idea why we are so far behind and will continue to be so until the gap is addressed at all levels.

Yeah...would be very interesting to see

Take Tyrone though....the whole county, Man, woman and child know when they have a game. They defend their county to the hilt on any issue and see their football team as an extension of themselves,  as defining them

We don't have that at all, nowhere near the gra. We forever are begging our best players to commit and play for us (Winker, Fitzsimmons in football etc).

Been refreshing to have the buy in (which should be the expected) of the best hurlers in the county this year

I hope their is a  change to the norm with the appointment of  G Adams in football and gaelfast but time will tell
Sometimes we don't even know our best players' names.

:D Frank still has a few good years left in him....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 07:19:10 PM
Some comeback by Loughguile against Glenariffe to win U-17 final in Armoy, 7 down with 5 to go. Levelled to force extra time and then won by a point AET. ET hard going for players that age but both teams a credit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 07:52:57 PM
8 down they were.

10 minutes of injury time!!!!.

Telling players to stay down will come back to haunt the losing team's line for years. The referee called their bluff. Take a bow Mr Tumelty. The 3 officials wisely consulted on the added time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 18, 2021, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 07:52:57 PM
8 down they were.

10 minutes of injury time!!!!.

Telling players to stay down will come back to haunt the losing team's line for years. The referee called their bluff. Take a bow Mr Tumelty. The 3 officials wisely consulted on the added time.

Glenariffe will be kicking themselves, having said that 10 minutes of injury time was nonsense. 5-6 would have been plenty. Yes Glenariffe were rolling about and milking it but 10 minutes was ridiculous. And he kept giving loughgiel chances. They hit a wide on 68 minutes and he still didn't blow. If I was from Glenariffe I would be very annoyed.
As for the match itself Glenariffe started like a train and were good value for their halftime lead. They went out of it in the second half for long periods and were unable to get the ball into their dangerous full forward line, When they did get the ball in they scored their third goal which appeared to seal the win. All the time Loughgiel were wasting goal chances at the other end. I counted 4 missed goal opportunities from Loughgiel in the second half although Glenariffes keeper, full back and number 4 deserve a lot of credit for this. Eventually as time kept going Glenariffe got sucked closer and closer to goal and the inevitable happened.
Overall Loughgiels half back line were very good after an early substitution even when Loughgiel were playing poorly, their number 6 was excellent throughout and played a real captains part. It was a good clean game of hurling throughout so credit to all involved for that, shame about the timekeeping controversy as it overshadowed a really good game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
The game was of poor standard. Very flat and little atmosphere due to the quality of hurling. Low in clean catching, low in clean striking and low in efficient passing. Can't remember a time when I watched so many  wides or strikes that fell short in a minor final. Possibly the change to younger ages having this effect??

The excitement was saved for those crazy 10 minutes. I agree, it was too much time.

A referee can't create chances for a team, they do that themselves. That might not be the greatest Loughiel minor team in the world but they dug very deep to salvage that game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
The game was of poor standard. Very flat and little atmosphere due to the quality of hurling. Low in clean catching, low in clean striking and low in efficient passing. Can't remember a time when I watched so many  wides or strikes that fell short in a minor final. Possibly the change to younger ages having this effect??

The excitement was saved for those crazy 10 minutes. I agree, it was too much time.

A referee can't create chances for a team, they do that themselves. That might not be the greatest Loughiel minor team in the world but they dug very deep to salvage that game.

There are 15 & 16 year olds playing, Probably first time a lot played on such a stage. Not sure what you were expecting. A Limerick type performance ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2021, 09:44:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
The game was of poor standard. Very flat and little atmosphere due to the quality of hurling. Low in clean catching, low in clean striking and low in efficient passing. Can't remember a time when I watched so many  wides or strikes that fell short in a minor final. Possibly the change to younger ages having this effect??

The excitement was saved for those crazy 10 minutes. I agree, it was too much time.

A referee can't create chances for a team, they do that themselves. That might not be the greatest Loughiel minor team in the world but they dug very deep to salvage that game.

There are 15 & 16 year olds playing, Probably first time a lot played on such a stage. Not sure what you were expecting. A Limerick type performance ?

Lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
The game was of poor standard. Very flat and little atmosphere due to the quality of hurling. Low in clean catching, low in clean striking and low in efficient passing. Can't remember a time when I watched so many  wides or strikes that fell short in a minor final. Possibly the change to younger ages having this effect??

The excitement was saved for those crazy 10 minutes. I agree, it was too much time.

A referee can't create chances for a team, they do that themselves. That might not be the greatest Loughiel minor team in the world but they dug very deep to salvage that game.

There are 15 & 16 year olds playing, Probably first time a lot played on such a stage. Not sure what you were expecting. A Limerick type performance ?

My point was simple enough I thought. Was a poor standard of game for a minor final. Much lower standard than the last 4 or 5 years. Did you think the standard was high? If so, which aspects?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 10:14:15 PM
Anto Finnegan RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 18, 2021, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2021, 07:52:57 PM
8 down they were.

10 minutes of injury time!!!!.

Telling players to stay down will come back to haunt the losing team's line for years. The referee called their bluff. Take a bow Mr Tumelty. The 3 officials wisely consulted on the added time.

Glenariffe will be kicking themselves, having said that 10 minutes of injury time was nonsense. 5-6 would have been plenty. Yes Glenariffe were rolling about and milking it but 10 minutes was ridiculous. And he kept giving loughgiel chances. They hit a wide on 68 minutes and he still didn't blow. If I was from Glenariffe I would be very annoyed.
As for the match itself Glenariffe started like a train and were good value for their halftime lead. They went out of it in the second half for long periods and were unable to get the ball into their dangerous full forward line, When they did get the ball in they scored their third goal which appeared to seal the win. All the time Loughgiel were wasting goal chances at the other end. I counted 4 missed goal opportunities from Loughgiel in the second half although Glenariffes keeper, full back and number 4 deserve a lot of credit for this. Eventually as time kept going Glenariffe got sucked closer and closer to goal and the inevitable happened.
Overall Loughgiels half back line were very good after an early substitution even when Loughgiel were playing poorly, their number 6 was excellent throughout and played a real captains part. It was a good clean game of hurling throughout so credit to all involved for that, shame about the timekeeping controversy as it overshadowed a really good game.

I noticed Chopper was sent off in normal time then reappeared on the line in extra time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2021, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 18, 2021, 10:14:15 PM
Anto Finnegan RIP

Sorry to hear that. Fear cróga agus fear uasal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 20, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Well Done to Antrim Camogs, All Irelands at minor and senior in two weeks. Excellent work by all involved.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 20, 2021, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 20, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Well Done to Antrim Camogs, All Irelands at minor and senior in two weeks. Excellent work by all involved.

massive, have well and truely overtaken us in Derry now, too many clubs pushing the easy option and going for ladies football(brutal)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Some great younger players coming through. McCormick and Kelly on the seniors are very young and very very gifted. We still need to get over the down hurdle though but hopefully that will be next year.

I am not convinced the derry camogs fully buy in to their setup as with Slaughtneil one of the best teams in the country you'd expect more.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 21, 2021, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Some great younger players coming through. McCormick and Kelly on the seniors are very young and very very gifted. We still need to get over the down hurdle though but hopefully that will be next year.

I am not convinced the derry camogs fully buy in to their setup as with Slaughtneil one of the best teams in the country you'd expect more.

Hope not although some of the Down girls are getting on in years.

As for the Derry thing, I've seen some really strong underage club camogie teams, Bellaghy in particular and evidently they don't buy into the county set-up..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2021, 05:23:02 PM
Yeah I think some of those clonduff ones are getting a bit older though Mallon and the likes still young.

Derry like that in the hurling too. Some would argue the football as well ;D (they seem to finally have changed that mind you)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 21, 2021, 09:12:26 PM
Carey presently beating Gort by 27 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 21, 2021, 09:25:04 PM
Carey win 50 to 7 v Gort Na Mona, simultaneously knocking Glenariffe out of the Intermediate semi finals. Horrible week for the Oisins.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 09:26:07 PM
Bit of a farce that game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 21, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
Started tonight, 24 points on score difference, behind. Finished 19 points ahead. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.

Think I posted it on the football thread, the groups served a purpose last year but for the love of god please can we go back to straight knock out next year, groups served no purpose this year below senior.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman21 on September 22, 2021, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.

Think I posted it on the football thread, the groups served a purpose last year but for the love of god please can we go back to straight knock out next year, groups served no purpose this year below senior.

100% right, at least teams like glenariffe wont be relaying on others to see if they continue in the championship or not. Now they are unbeaten but still out of the competition.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 22, 2021, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: Glensman21 on September 22, 2021, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.

Think I posted it on the football thread, the groups served a purpose last year but for the love of god please can we go back to straight knock out next year, groups served no purpose this year below senior.

100% right, at least teams like glenariffe wont be relaying on others to see if they continue in the championship or not. Now they are unbeaten but still out of the competition.

Unbeaten but 3 draws out of 5, they only won the "easy" games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman21 on September 22, 2021, 11:05:06 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 22, 2021, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: Glensman21 on September 22, 2021, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.

Think I posted it on the football thread, the groups served a purpose last year but for the love of god please can we go back to straight knock out next year, groups served no purpose this year below senior.

100% right, at least teams like glenariffe wont be relaying on others to see if they continue in the championship or not. Now they are unbeaten but still out of the competition.

Unbeaten but 3 draws out of 5, they only won the "easy" games.

Yes but at least in normal championship those draws would goto extra time and a winner be decided or replay if needs be. Not relaying on other teams as i said. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on September 22, 2021, 11:39:34 AM
Yes, I have never been a fan of the groups, nor am I in favour of score difference particularly in club competitions where one injury or a covid case or a social event can completely distort the whole group, in the event of level points I'm sure a play off could have been involved. Harsh on Glenariffe, it will also come into play in the football where Johnny's or Rossa will miss out, same with St Endas/Aghagallon  and Pg1/Ahoghill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2021, 01:52:17 PM
And yet, in both competitions, the best 4 teams are left in each. Glenariffe the one club that could feel aggrieved. Carey gained an advantage in knowing what they had to do to qualify and further, Gort had no motivation but pride, in which they showed none.

If we had a strong proactive county board it would not have come to this in the Intermediate championship.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on September 22, 2021, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2021, 01:52:17 PM
And yet, in both competitions, the best 4 teams are left in each. Glenariffe the one club that could feel aggrieved. Carey gained an advantage in knowing what they had to do to qualify and further, Gort had no motivation but pride, in which they showed none.

If we had a strong proactive county board it would not have come to this in the Intermediate championship.

I don't see the issue in the group stages to be honest. I do think it was odd that the senior championship 6 went through (2 to semi and 4 to quarter ) whereas in intermediate, historically the most competitive, only 4 went through
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Caesar on September 22, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
I'm not sure "the best 4 teams are left in each" is a selling point of a group stage approach.

Everyone loves to see a weaker team rise to the occasion and upset the odds. The group format essentially act as a safety net for the big teams in this stage of the competition.

Straight knockout is the way forward for me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 22, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Why was the original Gnm  v carey match called off? The match should have been played before the final round of games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 22, 2021, 07:53:39 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 22, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Why was the original Gnm  v carey match called off? The match should have been played before the final round of games.

I think it was a bereavement connected to GNM but totally agree, the game should have been fulfilled before the final round of games. Four very evenly matched teams left in Intermediate, no favourite as far as I can see
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffball on September 24, 2021, 07:29:47 AM
Big weekend of championship hurling action coming up. Let me see your predictions mine are as follows.

Senior Semi Finals
Rossa vs Cushendall  - Rossa by 2
Dunloy vs St Johns - Dunloy by 6

Intermediate Semi Finals

Cushendun vs Carey - Carey by 4
Clooney Gaels vs Creggan - Creggan by 1

Junior Final

Glenravel vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 7

Junior Plate

Ardoyne vs Larne - Larne by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2021, 09:20:21 AM
I think cushendall may beat rossa and clooney beat creggan but that aside I would mainly agree.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2021, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: Saffball on September 24, 2021, 07:29:47 AM
Big weekend of championship hurling action coming up. Let me see your predictions mine are as follows.

Senior Semi Finals
Rossa vs Cushendall  - Rossa by 6
Dunloy vs St Johns - Dunloy by 2

Intermediate Semi Finals

Cushendun vs Carey - C'dun by 4
Clooney Gaels vs Creggan - Creggan by 1

Junior Final

Glenravel vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10+

Junior Plate

Ardoyne vs Larne - Ardoyne by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2021, 10:03:06 AM
Glenarm struggled a bit with rasharkin so not sure if they will win by as much as people think but they'd definitely be favourites too.

Just checked and Larne beat Ardoyne by a bit on the league so probably be the favourites. They won at this level a few years ago so probably favourites.

I kind of hope cushendun spring a surprise as it'd be good to see someone like them come through at that level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2021, 11:18:02 AM
Glenarm have a greater scoring threat who, if they get going will be hard to stop.
Ardoyne were badly annoyed at losing that last game so I predict OB will be looking to put it right.
Cushendun have thrown the fear of losing away at long last and their young lads are growing in to themselves, look a better balanced team to me
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 24, 2021, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 22, 2021, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: Glensman21 on September 22, 2021, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: themac_23 on September 22, 2021, 09:56:53 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 21, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 21, 2021, 10:37:44 PM
Is this a bit fishy?

Few factors in play that favoured Carey but safe to say there wouldn't have been 43 points in it if it was played on Gorts home pitch when it was originally due to be played.

Think I posted it on the football thread, the groups served a purpose last year but for the love of god please can we go back to straight knock out next year, groups served no purpose this year below senior.

100% right, at least teams like glenariffe wont be relaying on others to see if they continue in the championship or not. Now they are unbeaten but still out of the competition.

Unbeaten but 3 draws out of 5, they only won the "easy" games.

The Down Div1 Feile between ourselves, Bredagh and Portaferry round robin ended up with three drawn games and we ended up getting put out on a rule where "least scores conceded" was used. We'd scored the most but obviously conceded the most.

It had never been used in Down before and TBH we weren't even informed it was to be used before the competition began as Down competition rules normally state "most scores for".




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 24, 2021, 11:44:12 AM
Senior Semi Finals
Rossa vs Cushendall  - Rossa by 1
Dunloy vs St Johns - Dunloy by 5

Intermediate Semi Finals

Cushendun vs Carey - Cushenden by 2
Clooney Gaels vs Creggan - Clooney Gaels by2

Junior Final

Glenravel vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 5

Junior Plate

Ardoyne vs Larne - Ardoyne by 3
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 24, 2021, 12:39:55 PM
Cushendun well beat Carey in Division 2 final so that game could go either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2021, 03:15:30 PM
Interesting pretty much everyone backs Rossa. Would they be bookies favourite? IIRC McManus played very little part in that game so unless injured could be a different game...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on September 24, 2021, 03:42:27 PM
Senior Semi Finals
Rossa vs Cushendall  - C'Dall by 2 AET
Dunloy vs St Johns - Dunloy by 6

Intermediate Semi Finals

Cushendun vs Carey - Cushenden by 4
Clooney Gaels vs Creggan - Clooney Gaels by 3

Junior Final

Glenravel vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 8

Junior Plate

Ardoyne vs Larne - Larne by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on September 24, 2021, 04:26:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 24, 2021, 03:15:30 PM
Interesting pretty much everyone backs Rossa. Would they be bookies favourite? IIRC McManus played very little part in that game so unless injured could be a different game...
No doubt about it he is their "El Cid". All the same Rossa look in good shape to keep the Ruairis busy and are looking more like finalists for me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 01:35:24 PM
8 mins to go with Rossa 5 up. Still can go either way yet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2021, 01:45:49 PM
Some turnaround!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2021, 01:46:40 PM
And another turnaround. This sounds like some game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 01:50:13 PM
Scraped home. Deserved it though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 01:51:00 PM
I fancy Dunloy but can you imagine an All-Belfast Final???
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2021, 02:06:11 PM
No  ;D

Really can't see it tbh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2021, 06:21:03 PM
Will final be in Ballycastle as usual or Dunsilly ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 06:27:07 PM
Don't think it will be in Dunsiily.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 06:34:47 PM
Ciaran Johnston's red in the 1st few minutes proved very costly. The final many people expected.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 26, 2021, 06:43:16 PM
Corrigan for the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 06:55:43 PM
Would be good to have it in the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 26, 2021, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 06:27:07 PM
Don't think it will be in Dunsiily.

Perfect halfway ground whilst Ballycastle or corrigan would be far from it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
Was Clooney v Creggan today

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 26, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
Was Clooney v Creggan today

Creggan won AET
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 07:32:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 26, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
Was Clooney v Creggan today

Creggan won AET

Tight as expected
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on September 26, 2021, 09:07:26 PM
Big upset in the Junior hurling. Glenravel at a canter.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:19:37 PM
Are Antrim GAA aware there were two other hurling competitions on today? Not a peep about the Intermediate Semi-Finals or the Junior Finals. Poor form.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2021, 09:22:17 PM
We're there not three...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:41:45 PM
Aye, Intermediate and Junior A/B. Sends out the wrong message.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2021, 09:46:30 PM
I've read reports on both intermediate games.. are you looking them televised?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:51:34 PM
From Antrim GAA? I've checked their Facebook and Twitter pages and haven't seen a thing. Not even the results reported. Think you're confusing Antrim GAA with Saffron Gael.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2021, 09:54:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:51:34 PM
From Antrim GAA? I've checked their Facebook and Twitter pages and haven't seen a thing. Not even the results reported. Think you're confusing Antrim GAA with Saffron Gael.

Think you're confused, just on it there now and the results are up! Again are you looking results?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
On Twitter and Facebook? Post the link there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2021, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
On Twitter and Facebook? Post the link there!

The Antrim GAA website! If you care to look. You are looking for a fight in an empty house lad. Wouldn't be a Twitter man myself but I checked the clubs Twitters who were playing today and they call had their results online..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 26, 2021, 10:02:14 PM
The creggan result wasn't there for hours
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 26, 2021, 10:02:14 PM
The creggan result wasn't there for hours

Ignore him, he's on his period. Knows exactly the the point being made.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2021, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 26, 2021, 10:02:14 PM
The creggan result wasn't there for hours

Ignore him, he's on his period. Knows exactly the the point being made.

Jesus!! You must be 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:18:34 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

Was an upset for sure. Glenarm fancied strongly from the beginning of the competition. Glenravel have a few decent hurlers though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on September 26, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

Sean Kelly spoilt us all with the quality  and depth of his coverage of all aspects of Antrim GAA . The current PRO hasnt kept to that standard unfortunately...hard act to follow !
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 26, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

Sean Kelly spoilt us all with the quality  and depth if his coverage of all aspects of Antrim GAA . The current PRO hasnt kept to that standard unfortunately...hard act to follow !

Pretty much sums it up. Sean would have given the other 4 hurling championship games something on the day. They train hard and sacrifice a lot too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on September 26, 2021, 10:28:22 PM
Was chatting to a Dunloy man this evening and he must have mentioned wanting to beat slaughtneil 5 times! This is the reason why I believe Rossa have an excellent chance, Dunloy looking further down the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 26, 2021, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 26, 2021, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

Sean Kelly spoilt us all with the quality  and depth if his coverage of all aspects of Antrim GAA . The current PRO hasnt kept to that standard unfortunately...hard act to follow !

Pretty much sums it up. Sean would have given the other 4 hurling championship games something on the day. They train hard and sacrifice a lot too.

I'm sure the current Antrim pro would love some help in a demanding role that he/she does in their own time...

Unreal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2021, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on September 26, 2021, 10:28:22 PM
Was chatting to a Dunloy man this evening and he must have mentioned wanting to beat slaughtneil 5 times! This is the reason why I believe Rossa have an excellent chance, Dunloy looking further down the line.

Dangerous outlook. I'm assuming from a fan though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 11:28:57 PM
Rossa can beat Dunloy , Dunloy can beat Slaughtneil but I don't think Rossa could. Just a feeling I have. Slaughtneil lads not played any hurling this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on September 27, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on September 27, 2021, 07:17:37 AM
Most definitely not a player! This was a fair weather fan who would maybe see two games all year but wouldn't miss a second of the celebrations!!.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner..

Is that in reference to rossa's Twitter post?

All the guy had to do was retweet the clubs in the games latest score in terms of the pro.

Is ulster on this year? Didn't realise it was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 27, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner..

Is that in reference to rossa's Twitter post?

All the guy had to do was retweet the clubs in the games latest score in terms of the pro.

Is ulster on this year? Didn't realise it was.

Yes Ulster this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffball on September 27, 2021, 08:30:19 AM
Final to be played at Corrigan and shown on TG4 going by the Irish News
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 09:04:15 AM
Will be good to see an Ulster. Final on TG4 good news. I don't think that pairc tv is much good by all accounts. I was considering getting the games but tbh seemed a bit dear for something I wouldn't be able to give my full attention to at the time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on September 27, 2021, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner..

Is that in reference to rossa's Twitter post?

All the guy had to do was retweet the clubs in the games latest score in terms of the pro.

Is ulster on this year? Didn't realise it was.


Saw the twitter post and unless there's an underlying dig in there that's lost on me then childish but harmless.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 27, 2021, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: Saffball on September 27, 2021, 08:30:19 AM
Final to be played at Corrigan and shown on TG4 going by the Irish News

Hot water won't be on for them anyway!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 27, 2021, 09:35:22 AM
a fair weather fan but dunloy are looking further down the line. aye dead on
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on September 27, 2021, 09:41:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 09:04:15 AM
Will be good to see an Ulster. Final on TG4 good news. I don't think that pairc tv is much good by all accounts. I was considering getting the games but tbh seemed a bit dear for something I wouldn't be able to give my full attention to at the time.

Yeah £9 is totally over the odds I'm afraid. I though the games were around £5
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on September 27, 2021, 09:54:18 AM
£9 to sit in your own house and watch the games? Seriously what do you want?

Top service being provided by JQ, world wide access being provided to our games. I've been impressed with it every single time and the more they do it the more professional it gets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 27, 2021, 09:57:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2021, 09:54:18 AM
£9 to sit in your own house and watch the games? Seriously what do you want?

Top service being provided by JQ, world wide access being provided to our games. I've been impressed with it every single time and the more they do it the more professional it gets.

£15 quid for both, I'd rather be sitting in the house watching than watching in the pissing rain yesterday lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2021, 09:54:18 AM
£9 to sit in your own house and watch the games? Seriously what do you want?

Top service being provided by JQ, world wide access being provided to our games. I've been impressed with it every single time and the more they do it the more professional it gets.

Sound...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 27, 2021, 10:23:38 AM
Corrigan Park, Sunday 10th October at 3.45pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 27, 2021, 10:45:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 27, 2021, 09:22:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 27, 2021, 07:32:27 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 27, 2021, 06:17:45 AM
Only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner..

Is that in reference to rossa's Twitter post?

All the guy had to do was retweet the clubs in the games latest score in terms of the pro.

Is ulster on this year? Didn't realise it was.


Saw the twitter post and unless there's an underlying dig in there that's lost on me then childish but harmless.

It's a dig at Dan Delargy's ridiculous letter to the county board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2021, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 27, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
And they deserve every dig they get for it too.
Utterly pathetic stuff.
If you invite ridicule don't be surprised when you are ridiculed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 27, 2021, 03:45:28 PM
Have St Johns got a lot of new club gear? good crowd of their supporters wearing red & white yesterday at the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: scamroc on September 27, 2021, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

The only ones not shocked were Glenravel. Leagues are for playing in lads..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on September 28, 2021, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: scamroc on September 27, 2021, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
It's not overly important to me but I couldn't get the Creggan result anywhere which is why I posted here.

I see saffron Gael have report up now. Glenravel big shock in junior

The only ones not shocked were Glenravel. Leagues are for playing in lads..

Yeah they showed great heart to beat the odds!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on September 29, 2021, 03:41:37 PM
A lot of crying being done over St Johns ruled out goal on Sunday. Have the rules changed? i didnt know you were allowed to throw the ball into the net!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2021, 05:20:43 PM
Likely free out given for raising the butt of the hurl in to the defenders throat going by the footage I have saw.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: breakingball on September 29, 2021, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 29, 2021, 05:20:43 PM
Likely free out given for raising the butt of the hurl in to the defenders throat going by the footage I have saw.

Free out was given for throwing the ball into the net.

The referee signalled this at the time after being informed by the umpires.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
With the games all being sorted for the weekend, I can have a discussion on the way these games should go..

Having viewed both teams for the Intermediate final Carey seem to have the bit between their teeth, how that will translate on the day remains to be seen, They have been unlucky these last few years and sometimes you need to lose one to win one. Plenty of speed in the forwards with an eye for goal.

As for Creggan they managed to just get over the line against Ahoghill last day out, after extra time, wasn't a game for the purest but winning ugly can have its advantages when you are in the trenches, always felt Creggan need a rocket up their ass to get going as there is some talent within the squad.

The bench may play a part in this game and Carey had some decent lads to bring on in the games I've seen.

As for the senior game, there was nothing in it last year when both teams played and I'd expect this game to be similar, Rossa have been very good at changing their formation during games, and it brings results, Rossa have been rotating players also in the football and kept things a bit more fresher than last year, so coming into this game in better condition. The Rossa team have youth experience and county lads to draw on as does Dunloy.

Dunloy found St Johns hard to break down last day, but once they found the goal and the breaks with the extra man they came away with the win, it wasn't the best day for hurling and as a neutral you always want to see teams in good weather great conditions and with 15 players on the pitch. Will be hard to assess Dunloy after that game, but they have winning experience on that team and some lads are back from injury (Smyth) who'll only add to their team.

I can't call this game to be honest, I hope it lives up to last years game, may the best team win and match officials at both games have a great day out





Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on October 06, 2021, 01:39:49 PM

I can't call this game to be honest, I hope it lives up to last years game, may the best team win and match officials at both games have a great day out

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 06, 2021, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
With the games all being sorted for the weekend, I can have a discussion on the way these games should go..

Having viewed both teams for the Intermediate final Carey seem to have the bit between their teeth, how that will translate on the day remains to be seen, They have been unlucky these last few years and sometimes you need to lose one to win one. Plenty of speed in the forwards with an eye for goal.

As for Creggan they managed to just get over the line against Ahoghill last day out, after extra time, wasn't a game for the purest but winning ugly can have its advantages when you are in the trenches, always felt Creggan need a rocket up their ass to get going as there is some talent within the squad.

The bench may play a part in this game and Carey had some decent lads to bring on in the games I've seen.

As for the senior game, there was nothing in it last year when both teams played and I'd expect this game to be similar, Rossa have been very good at changing their formation during games, and it brings results, Rossa have been rotating players also in the football and kept things a bit more fresher than last year, so coming into this game in better condition. The Rossa team have youth experience and county lads to draw on as does Dunloy.

Dunloy found St Johns hard to break down last day, but once they found the goal and the breaks with the extra man they came away with the win, it wasn't the best day for hurling and as a neutral you always want to see teams in good weather great conditions and with 15 players on the pitch. Will be hard to assess Dunloy after that game, but they have winning experience on that team and some lads are back from injury (Smyth) who'll only add to their team.

I can't call this game to be honest, I hope it lives up to last years game, may the best team win and match officials at both games have a great day out

I think I'll go with Paddy Power's opinion. Careful you don't get a splinter in your arse.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffball on October 08, 2021, 07:19:46 AM
Prediction Time

Senior Final
Dunloy vs Rossa - Dunloy by 5

Intermediate Final
Carey vs Creggan - Carey by 2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 08, 2021, 08:06:14 AM
I've a feeling the venue is going to have a say in the Senior game.

Had it been in Ballycastle could see Dunloy running out easier winners, tighter pitch in Corrigan will make a battle of it which Rossa need. Intriguing one and difficult to call, won't be much in it either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 07:49:59 PM
Very poor standard in intermediate today I thought
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2021, 07:55:53 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 07:49:59 PM
Very poor standard in intermediate today I thought

Didn't see it but high enough scoring final, 4 goals plenty points, Carey won't matter a jot as they finally get over the line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 09, 2021, 10:32:15 PM
Good to see a club the size of Carey win some silverware. That was some goal by mccaughan.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:36:02 PM
Felt the striking was very poor, disappointing after a strong championship. Feel sorry for glenariffe who I'm told were the best side in this grade but we're shafted due to a number of factors.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2021, 11:40:48 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:36:02 PM
Felt the striking was very poor, disappointing after a strong championship. Feel sorry for glenariffe who I'm told were the best side in this grade but we're shafted due to a number of factors.

Eh? Shafted?  Jesus
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:46:01 PM
I'm not going to pretend I know a whole pile about it
But apparently unbeaten and then gnm rolled over and let carey stuff them to qualify.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on October 09, 2021, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:46:01 PM
I'm not going to pretend I know a whole pile about it
But apparently unbeaten and then gnm rolled over and let carey stuff them to qualify.

They were unbeaten but they weren't shafted. Too many draws. Could have finished 4th in the league round just as easily as 1st. Fine margins.
Carey finished ahead of them in the league. Carey also beat a good Cushendun team in the semis. Maybe it was a case of peaking at the right time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2021, 11:52:36 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:46:01 PM
I'm not going to pretend I know a whole pile about it
But apparently unbeaten and then gnm rolled over and let carey stuff them to qualify.

They drew two games I think, had they won one of those they'd have got through. You should never be reliant on others to get you through.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: faughs on October 10, 2021, 08:34:12 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on October 09, 2021, 11:36:02 PM
Felt the striking was very poor, disappointing after a strong championship. Feel sorry for glenariffe who I'm told were the best side in this grade but we're shafted due to a number of factors.

If Glenariffe were best team they wouldn't have had 3 draws in the round robin. Went in Carey's favour that GNM had nothing to play for  but that situation was out of their control.

3 outstanding "team" performances got Carey over the line thankfully, so glad for the panel after so many disappointments
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2021, 12:18:11 PM
Glenariffe certainly not "shafted", we won our two "easy" games against Armoy & GNM & drew the 3 tougher games. Now unfortunate they were all away and Carey's were at home but that's the way it goes. And our first draw against St Galls should have been a defeat as the ref didn't keep the score correctly, he had us up by a point at HT when it was St Galls up by a point. Carey best team and got better as the year went on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2021, 04:01:38 PM
Still early but Paul shields has definitely still got it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 10, 2021, 04:14:16 PM
Get the feeling if this was on one of the big pitches up the county, dunloy forwards would run riot.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2021, 04:16:14 PM
They pretty much are. Very poor reffing not letting that go.

I don't mind who wins but I was hoping for much closer than this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2021, 05:02:55 PM
Just far too good. Hard to see anything other than Dunloy dominance for a good few years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 10, 2021, 05:11:18 PM
Dunloy never got out of second gear there!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 10, 2021, 05:39:06 PM
Was too big a game for some of the Rossa players. Dunloy streets ahead
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on October 10, 2021, 06:03:17 PM
Agree ITG. Paul Shiels gave a masterclass there. Head and shoulders the best player on the pitch, with honourable mention to Coby for his massive contribution to the scoreboard. Occasion got to Rossa, they hit six wides in the first ten minutes, they needed those to settle down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 10, 2021, 06:49:55 PM
I think Gregory deserves some credit here. Dunloy clearly worked on attacking the Rossa short puck out. They got on top of it early on and really unsettled the Rossa full back line who never recovered. Once they had got insides Rossas collective heads it was game over.
Well done Dunloy deserved winners, enjoy the celebrations.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 09:36:27 PM
So what about Ulster ? Can't see Lynches getting near Slaughtneil in Derry
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 10, 2021, 09:44:18 PM
Could depend on how slaughtneil go in the football. The fact that Dunloy play them in mid December is a pity, would be a great game for a hard dry pitch. Two good teams, can't call it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 10, 2021, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 09:36:27 PM
So what about Ulster ? Can't see Lynches getting near Slaughtneil in Derry

That depends on where Slaughtneil are at, would i be right in saying that they haven't had a real challenge since Ballyhale almost 2 years ago? I have no idea how Lynches are going but Slaughtneil must be undercooked.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 10, 2021, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 09:36:27 PM
So what about Ulster ? Can't see Lynches getting near Slaughtneil in Derry

That depends on where Slaughtneil are at, would i be right in saying that they haven't had a real challenge since Ballyhale almost 2 years ago? I have no idea how Lynches are going but Slaughtneil must be undercooked.

Most of their big players only starting to come out now ans still blowing rest of Derry teams away, they should beat Lynches but Dunloy away ahead of rest of Derry atm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2021, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 10, 2021, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 10, 2021, 09:36:27 PM
So what about Ulster ? Can't see Lynches getting near Slaughtneil in Derry

That depends on where Slaughtneil are at, would i be right in saying that they haven't had a real challenge since Ballyhale almost 2 years ago? I have no idea how Lynches are going but Slaughtneil must be undercooked.

Most of their big players only starting to come out now ans still blowing rest of Derry teams away, they should beat Lynches but Dunloy away ahead of rest of Derry atm

If S'niel continue to play as before, they will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on October 11, 2021, 09:27:31 AM
An underrated aspect of Dunloys play was their tackling, dunno how many times a Rossa player went down to dip a ball and the Dunloy player just flicked it away, they made a difficult enough skill look very easy at times.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on October 11, 2021, 10:22:31 AM
Well paddy john what do you think of the ex ballymena man now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 11, 2021, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on October 11, 2021, 10:22:31 AM
Well paddy john what do you think of the ex ballymena man now

Hurled well. Dunloy were superb. Shorty is unreal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2021, 01:45:25 PM
I'll watch it back later on, but for me Rossa didn't get going or Dunloy played exceptionally well, a bitta both I suppose but I'm sure the Rossa lads are wondering what the hell hit them, there were plenty of players yesterday that managed to raise their game from the last day, Shorty stood out as did Kevin Molloy, Cunning will take the plaudits for the score tally, but for me Kevin Molloy was driving the team on and MOM for me.

Hopefully Rossa will put this behind them and refocus on next years championship, getting to a final isn't easy so making the most of it when you are there needs to be done by the likes of Rossa, St John's as it doesn't come around that often.

Dunloy got their match ups right, there was a few wide's from Rossa, which isn't like them, had they taken those chances they could have improved, the heads dropped more and more as the game went on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on October 11, 2021, 02:24:35 PM
Dunloy I dont think even got out of 3rd gear, they just picked Rossa off clinically and showed their experience in doing so.

I think Rossa will learn a lot from making the final, was a lot of noise around them during the week and seems to have got to some of their players.

Some bad wides at the wrong time also zapped the confidence but you have to ask about the warm up, is 50 minutes not way over the top?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2021, 08:25:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2021, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on October 11, 2021, 10:22:31 AM
Well paddy john what do you think of the ex ballymena man now

Hurled well. Dunloy were superb. Shorty is unreal.

Paddyjohn you're famous. Getting called out by Dunloy players on twitter lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 12, 2021, 09:43:39 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2021, 08:25:22 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2021, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on October 11, 2021, 10:22:31 AM
Well paddy john what do you think of the ex ballymena man now

Hurled well. Dunloy were superb. Shorty is unreal.

Paddyjohn you're famous. Getting called out by Dunloy players on twitter lol.

Did I say anything wrong?

Glad I could of helped them across the line 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
Not remotely. Seems to have become controversial for whatever reason lol.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2021, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 12, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
Not remotely. Seems to have become controversial for whatever reason lol.

Fill me in  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on October 12, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
All a bit of craic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on October 21, 2021, 10:08:10 AM
Any word on the county setup this year?

Is Gleeson staying?
Are all the players staying on again or any drop outs?

Any new faces in the squad etc?

Usually around this time if year county teams are putting the final touches to a pre-season plan etc
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 21, 2021, 10:27:24 AM
I heard Davy Fitz in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on October 22, 2021, 10:39:42 AM
Stranger things have happened!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 26, 2021, 09:40:19 AM
Gleeson and same mgt team staying on apparantly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on October 31, 2021, 12:06:06 AM
All well and good but rules are rules
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 31, 2021, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers

Is this a piss take?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on October 31, 2021, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers

Fair play to them. A good club doing serious work in the city, their minor footballers were also very unlucky to lose a county final this season.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
I see St Pauls won the Under 20 b competition. Well done them a junior championship last year and under 20 this year. Mini revival underway for St Pauls hurlers
Good too see both teams fielding U20's and having and high scoring game can only help their senior squads..
Glenarm have benefited from Glenariffe developing their underage players where as Glenariffe couldn't field at U20's as lots of players had returned to their home club. They need to be careful otherwise they will only be known as a collect all for underage .
Saying that that might have been able to field if the broke the rules like it appears Loughgiel have done by fielding ineligible players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor possibly assaulting an underage player at the time ??
so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:07:16 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor assaulting an underage player at the time so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉

The mentor was giving first aid to an Injured lg player and got punched by someone who had no reason to be on the field  , all on video aswell
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:07:16 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 02, 2021, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 01, 2021, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on October 31, 2021, 12:03:26 AM
Loughgiel wom the under 20s today up in Armoy in a scrappy but enjoyable match. Some bad wides on both sides. Loughgiel got 3 goals in the last quarter to win it,

Very tense game and a terrible pitch , Armoy was like a bog
Ballycastle definitely knocking on the door with this bunch of lads only losing 2 from playing panel for next year .
It will be once again nip and tuck between them and Loughgiel - will be an interesting one to keep an eye on .
Also should be good for County U20's if we decide to take the competition seriously and select stronger panel including your A  grade club players 

It will be interesting to see if Loughgiel are sanctioned by CCC for playing Jack McCloskey - ineligible due to age being 1st year of Minor
Knowing how the county work they'll get away with it though - one rule for one as they saying goes (Remember nothing happened to them when they attacked Skinny and his umpires a couple of years back  at U16 league final)

Short memory, minor final last year between Loughguile and Ballycastle , 2 bc men jumped the wire and punched a player and selector , nothing was done about this , must have different rules than the rest 😂

From memory 1 McQuillan player and  1 Loughgiel player got sent off for the skirmish.
TC also lost his way because his glasses got mislaid but couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.
Was the mentor assaulting an underage player at the time so maybe some community  spirit bubbled over.and gave him a little friendly man to man reminder 😉

The mentor was giving first aid to an Injured lg player and got punched by someone who had no reason to be on the field  , all on video aswell
Video - is that VHS or Betamax from the land time forgot🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is also some footage of some low life spitting on / at a team celebrating before the attack on a helpless women umpire
.
But getting back to the 1st Question  - will the CCC sanction Lgiel  for breaking the rules and playing an ineligible player ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:52:52 PM
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that a 16 year was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:52:52 PM
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that an u16 was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play
Thanks Rian for confirming your club broke the rules - designed for child and  underage player protection /welfare , it is refreshingly honest of you.👍.
It is up to your club secretary to ensure you are compliant and for CCC to enforce those rules.   

Yep Ballycastle lost the game on the day , no question  about that but didn't that  ineligible player score a goal and was maybe on field when other 2 were scored so also involved???
Would the end result been the same if he hadn't played , maybe or maybe not but that is not the point.
Also should you have been in the final if the rules had been broken at your previous game against Dunloy , not sure if Jack played in that too.
BTW not the young lads fault and he is a talented hurler and will be involved in many a final going forward I'm sure.
There are competition rules laid out for our game and we just can't make them up or change them as we feel.
Also other clubs may have competed at U20 if they could have followed suit both in the A and B grades and played younger ineligible players.




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: Rian on November 02, 2021, 11:52:52 PM
Your saying ineligible as if we brought on a 25 year old 3 time senior all star, it was a 16 year old who was on the field for 10 mins in an u20 game , quite a big difference in someone being too young than too old , have to ask yourself if loughguile would of stooped this low after losing  ,  also the county board never informed us before hand that an u16 was ineligible .it says on the official gaa rules that at under 20 grade , a player who is 4 years younger is ok to play
Thanks Rian for confirming your club broke the rules - designed for child and  underage player protection /welfare , it is refreshingly honest of you.👍.
It is up to your club secretary to ensure you are compliant and for CCC to enforce those rules.   

Yep Ballycastle lost the game on the day , no question  about that but didn't that  ineligible player score a goal and was maybe on field when other 2 were scored so also involved???
Would the end result been the same if he hadn't played , maybe or maybe not but that is not the point.
Also should you have been in the final if the rules had been broken at your previous game against Dunloy , not sure if Jack played in that too.
BTW not the young lads fault and he is a talented hurler and will be involved in many a final going forward I'm sure.
There are competition rules laid out for our game and we just can't make them up or change them as we feel.
Also other clubs may have competed at U20 if they could have followed suit both in the A and B grades and played younger ineligible players.

Ineligible player whether they're too old or too young, being on the field at all as an ineligible player the game is automatically forfeited to the opposition and a suspension for the chairperson and secretary.

Hard to believe LG did that if they did.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 08:55:44 AM
Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 08:55:44 AM
Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.

You'd hope that Antrim CCC take the initiative rather than wait on Ballycastle to complain, that would really be bad crack by CCC.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 03, 2021, 08:55:44 AM
Yeah JC, doesn't matter the rules are there for a reason and if you break them that's on you, especially when this rule was pretty well known before the competition even started.

You'd hope that Antrim CCC take the initiative rather than wait on Ballycastle to complain, that would really be bad crack by CCC.

Not holding out any hope with this administration, seem to more about getting shady back deals done to avoid having to make the hard calls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip

Bloody right tyrdub, don't bother with any rules at all.

Next year Liam Watson will be lining out with the U15's... Fuckem.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip

Bloody right tyrdub, don't bother with any rules at all.

Next year Liam Watson will be lining out with the U15's... Fuckem.

PMSL

same boy would try it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Young Saffron on November 03, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15

I'm hearing now too that dunloy also played an underage player against Ballycastle and Loughgiel
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?

Funny enough you weren't as concerned for Conail elliots health when bc played dunloy in the group stages , he is also u16 but I'm guessing since yous won it's not a big deal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?

Funny enough you weren't as concerned for Conail elliots health when bc played dunloy in the group stages , he is also u16 but I'm guessing since yous won it's not a big deal
Again many wrongs don't make a right - just because Dunloy did doesn't make Lgeil and or BC right in doing so either .

Looks like a lot of clubs , managers , secretaries and possibly chairs will be in trouble with Antrim CCC and receiving bans
You would also have to question what checks Antrim have in place to ensure the integrity of their  underage games.
Ulster will be all over this now :-)
They post often about player welfare but it is appearing to be only lip service
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?

Funny enough you weren't as concerned for Conail elliots health when bc played dunloy in the group stages , he is also u16 but I'm guessing since yous won it's not a big deal
Again many wrongs don't make a right - just because Dunloy did doesn't make Lgeil and or BC right in doing so either .

Looks like a lot of clubs , managers , secretaries and possibly chairs will be in trouble with Antrim CCC and receiving bans
You would also have to question what checks Antrim have in place to ensure the integrity of their  underage games.
Ulster will be all over this now :-)
They post often about player welfare but it is appearing to be only lip service

My point is that u don't care about anyone health and safety , all you care about here is LG losing the u20 , don't try bs by saying anything else atleast be able to say that your only concern is us getting thrown out , I'm sure if you wanted to dive deep enough over the past 5 years you could disqualify about 30 teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 03, 2021, 06:55:06 PM
Ballycastle awarded the Championship?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rian on November 03, 2021, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
I wonder if ballycastle broke any underage rules this year? Heard they had an u11 playing u15
Hadn't heard about that one but if it is true then two wrongs don't make a right👍
Any idea of who the U11 player is for BC ?
Jack McC is the player for Lgiel who was / is ineligible for their U20s
I would expect CCC to implement the rules and sanction Ballycastle U15 manager and club accordingly.
Should be very easy to check as all players are registered with DOB and team sheets submitted etc.

Will await the decision with baited breathe from CCC

This takes the bloody biscuit.

Over on the football everyone (mostly) is commending PG1 for taking a pragmatic approach and not appealing a cockup not of their doing, which ultimately puts them out of a fb final. Yet here we have 2 children whinging over an U16 player beating an U20 team in a final. FFS catch a bloody grip
The football scenario is different as both teams played by the same rule ( whether that was right or wrong was what was being questioned)
Here one team broke the age grading rules ( in U20s for Lgiel and possibly in U15s for BC) so a lot  different from the PG issue.
Those age boundaries are there to protect children and are there for a reason.
Wouldn't have been a laughing matter if this young boy in question who was 15 at the start of the year had been injured by a 20 year old man.

CCC need to step up and action this or next years underage tournaments will be carnage
Maybe Ulster need to ensure Antrim maintain the rules ?

Funny enough you weren't as concerned for Conail elliots health when bc played dunloy in the group stages , he is also u16 but I'm guessing since yous won it's not a big deal
Again many wrongs don't make a right - just because Dunloy did doesn't make Lgeil and or BC right in doing so either .

Looks like a lot of clubs , managers , secretaries and possibly chairs will be in trouble with Antrim CCC and receiving bans
You would also have to question what checks Antrim have in place to ensure the integrity of their  underage games.
Ulster will be all over this now :-)
They post often about player welfare but it is appearing to be only lip service

My point is that u don't care about anyone health and safety , all you care about here is LG losing the u20 , don't try bs by saying anything else atleast be able to say that your only concern is us getting thrown out , I'm sure if you wanted to dive deep enough over the past 5 years you could disqualify about 30 teams
Rian only aware of your club  breaking of the rules by playing Jack as it was discussed on the hill at the side of the pitch in Armoy, with regard to Conail or the so far anonymous U11 BC player I wasn't aware  until others kindly and rightly highlighted other breaches on this forum.
You and your club knew that they had broken the rules before , during and after the game and so only have themselves to blame and if that means you are thrown out so be it.
You would be extremely naive in your thinking if you thought that this was not going to be highlighted.

If  BC (my club) broke the rules for U15 they should be sanctioned accordingly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: The stig on November 03, 2021, 09:12:47 PM
No 2 wrongs definitely don't make a rite and if LG have made a mistake/broke rules they should be punished accordingly but that is not the reason bc lost I was at game and their shooting was terrible it would be a better use of time practicing it and they would've had LG beat handy enough
I also heard that bc sounded out their complaint to a couple of respected administrators at other north Antrim clubs to guage opinion and I think they told they were beat fair and square and to raise a complaint about a child beating them was rather petty
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 03, 2021, 10:17:24 PM
Seem to be a lot of new users joined in the last few days  ;)

Lads, joining to cause trouble or feuding will result in an early bath, despite the high entertainment value!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 03, 2021, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: The stig on November 03, 2021, 09:12:47 PM
No 2 wrongs definitely don't make a rite and if LG have made a mistake/broke rules they should be punished accordingly but that is not the reason bc lost I was at game and their shooting was terrible it would be a better use of time practicing it and they would've had LG beat handy enough
I also heard that bc sounded out their complaint to a couple of respected administrators at other north Antrim clubs to guage opinion and I think they told they were beat fair and square and to raise a complaint about a child beating them was rather petty
The Stig - I agree BC will need to improve their shooting , I believe 14 wides compared to LG 8 so if these had been converted it would have been a level game .
With regard to the complaint I don't believe the onus should be on BC to raise one  as it should the responsibility of Antrim CCC  to ensure the integrity of their competitions but who knows with our county board .
Oversight will be provide by Ulster and Croker if required and it wouldn't be the first time either.

As for the child , and that is what he is , I would be asking if I was an LG sub why would they be putting an ineligible player on in front of me if they 'Believed' in their players

Only an opinion and that is what this board is for and it is good to debate .

I will reiterate again should any other club ,including my own , have broken the rules by fielding ineligible players they should be sanctioned
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glentaisie on November 04, 2021, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 03, 2021, 10:17:24 PM
Seem to be a lot of new users joined in the last few days  ;)

Lads, joining to cause trouble or feuding will result in an early bath, despite the high entertainment value!

By Christ, this place has got woke.  If what I've read constitutes trouble making or feuding,  maybe go back a few years and read the craic.

Hmmmmm I suppose that's me for an early bath   ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on November 04, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
yeoyeoyeoyeoyeoyeo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.

And suspend the club secretary and team manager..

There needs to be a disincentive to prevent others from "trying it on".
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffronaldo on November 04, 2021, 11:11:35 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.

And suspend the club secretary and team manager..

There needs to be a disincentive to prevent others from "trying it on".

I agree. It needs to be such a deterrent that it's not seen as worth the risk at all, and then people will take a bit more care over ensuring compliance with the rules.

However pigs will fly before the GAA sort out all the rules/discipline issues they have...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.
NA Gael  I concur the LG won the game on Saturday but the end result was impacted by the sub ,as the ineligible player was involved in 2 of their 3 goals - in the ruck for one and scoring another.
They will as you say be forever tainted and that is why a replay is not the solution .All this would do is to encourage cheating with the hope that you don't get caught and if you do well then at least you will be offered as 2nd bite at the cherry .
Maybe it is a time for a look inwards by some of their club members at their mentors and committee but that is up to them .
No good would come from a replay  as all it could do is create more issues.

As for BC I agree that the they may not want to win the trophy off the pitch but it is not their fault that LG can't abide by county , province and national rules.

IMO  making the competition null and void for 2021 might be the solution but not sure if that is an option.

It does not look good on the county either way that our Grade A U20 championship has turned in to a farce.
Roll on 2022 championship season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.

And suspend the club secretary and team manager..

There needs to be a disincentive to prevent others from "trying it on".

Of course Johnny, 100 %.

The GAA rules have less severe punishment of using an ineligible "underage" player as to an "overage" player.

For Breach of lower Age Limit:
(i)Team Penalty:
On a Proven Objection – Award of Game to Opposing Team.
On an Inquiry by the Committee-in-Charge – Forfeiture of
Game without Award to the Opposing Team.
(ii) Player: For breach in any Grade – 2 weeks Suspension.
(iii) Person(s)-in-Charge of the Team in which the
breach is committed – 8 weeks Suspension.

In relation to the allegation of the U11 playing at U15 level :

Under 15: A Player shall have celebrated his 11th. birthday
prior to January 1st. and his 15th. birthday on or after January
1st. of the Championship Year.

(i.e - the player's last year of U11 - so no issues with eligibility if the player was 11 before 1st January 2021).

Like myself, I'm sure quite a few of us are a bit better versed with the rules!



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 11:21:57 AM

In relation to the allegation of the U11 playing at U15 level :

Under 15: A Player shall have celebrated his 11th. birthday
prior to January 1st. and his 15th. birthday on or after January
1st. of the Championship Year.

(i.e - the player's last year of U11 - so no issues with eligibility if the player was 11 before 1st January 2021).

Like myself, I'm sure quite a few of us are a bit better versed with the rules!

If a player was 11 before the 1st of January 2021 then they're not an U11 in 2021. They are fine to play U15 but not U11.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2021, 12:27:56 PM
I can talk on this thread as the hurling is completed, nobody wants to win the game in the boardroom, I personally think that the rule is wrong, but I'm going back to the time when I played and it didn't do me any wrong, though I fully understand why its in place, when kids are now playing multiple sports with school and outside of the GAA.

This tit for tat stuff on here though won't make anything different to be fair. The ref will have supplied the match report to the county, should a complaint come in it should be looked and and whatever measures are in place then the proper procedures should/could be brought in. To go back to my first point, the game should not be won in the boardroom, should be on the pitch. If that is a replay then that would be the best option in my view.

I remember a intermediate final against Glenarm back in the day, we were at Casement warming up ready for the game, but we'd a notion that Glenarm were not showing up, I couldn't tell you why, we were only interested in playing the game. ref threw the ball in and then blew his whistle, technically we won the game, no celebrations, we just wanted to play. the game was played months later and we won by a point in the end. That win will stay with us forever, had we won it in the boardroom, then it would have meant nothing to me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 04, 2021, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 11:21:57 AM

In relation to the allegation of the U11 playing at U15 level :

Under 15: A Player shall have celebrated his 11th. birthday
prior to January 1st. and his 15th. birthday on or after January
1st. of the Championship Year.

(i.e - the player's last year of U11 - so no issues with eligibility if the player was 11 before 1st January 2021).

Like myself, I'm sure quite a few of us are a bit better versed with the rules!

If a player was 11 before the 1st of January 2021 then they're not an U11 in 2021. They are fine to play U15 but not U11.

Well noted Johnny, I happened to come across the rule and thought I'd share - I obviously didn't study it too well!

I've since heard the County are investigating the U20B final now.

How far back can they check?

As some people have pointed out, breaches could have been made during the earlier stages of this competition - which leads me to ask - what controls and checks are in place by the administrators of the competitions to check team sheets for potential breaches of rule? 



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 04, 2021, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: NA Gael on November 04, 2021, 10:49:12 AM

Loughgiel have already "won" the cup and enjoyed all the celebrations/photos etc. associated with doing so.

If you ask any Ballycastle player or mentor would it give them any satisfaction being "awarded" the cup - I think not.

Loughgiel will be forever tainted with the fact they won the cup by using an ineligible player and if Ballycastle's objection upholds - Ballycastle will be forever tainted as being the team that won a trophy off the pitch.

The sensible option to resolve the matter would be to have a replay.
NA Gael  I concur the LG won the game on Saturday but the end result was impacted by the sub ,as the ineligible player was involved in 2 of their 3 goals - in the ruck for one and scoring another.
They will as you say be forever tainted and that is why a replay is not the solution .All this would do is to encourage cheating with the hope that you don't get caught and if you do well then at least you will be offered as 2nd bite at the cherry .
Maybe it is a time for a look inwards by some of their club members at their mentors and committee but that is up to them .
No good would come from a replay  as all it could do is create more issues.

As for BC I agree that the they may not want to win the trophy off the pitch but it is not their fault that LG can't abide by county , province and national rules.

IMO  making the competition null and void for 2021 might be the solution but not sure if that is an option.

It does not look good on the county either way that our Grade A U20 championship has turned in to a farce.
Roll on 2022 championship season

Nail on the head. Not the first time this has happened over the years and I know for a fact that clubs are aware of this rule but chance it anyway. Completely wrong and game should be replayed or competition null and void.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.

Is he one of the pound McGarrys?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.

Is he one of the pound McGarrys?
Youngest of Enda's boys 👍
Classy hurler and on all accounts a good lad too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 10:57:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 04, 2021, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on November 04, 2021, 05:22:53 PM
Folks - was at schools Mageean game this afternoon and was speaking to BC U15 manager (Ronan Donnelly) .
He confirmed categorically that there was no underage or ineligible player playing for BC this year.
He thinks everyone is referring to his son Matthew so I guess he knows when he was born so I guess that answers that question.
If anyone needs clarification he  confirms he is more than happy to discuss .

On a different matter Bicky McGarry (CPC and Lgeil) confirmed today that is in a different class - some player and one that will be soon involved in Antrim seniors I would think.

Is he one of the pound McGarrys?
Youngest of Enda's boys 👍
Classy hurler and on all accounts a good lad too

A fine family, all class hurlers and even better people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Slaughtneil free to concentrate on the hurling now..

When do they play the Dunlodians and has Horse worked out a way round their packed defence?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Slaughtneil free to concentrate on the hurling now..

When do they play the Dunlodians and has Horse worked out a way round their packed defence?

Dunloy firstly have to match their physicality, S'neil have really good stick men also and strong in the tackle, this will be a very good game, not sure how it will pan out but hopefully Dunloy have the ability to get over the line.

The only way to get past a packed defence is to score from distance, breaking the lines against this team means losing the ball, accuracy from 50 meters will force a change in S'neil and they may have to change, which will leave pockets of space for the speed merchants up front to exploit.

Lat time in the All Ireland semi S'neil should have beaten Ballyhale in Newry. It would not have been a shock either
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jimmy on November 09, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Slaughtneil free to concentrate on the hurling now..

When do they play the Dunlodians and has Horse worked out a way round their packed defence?

Game planned for 12th December with final down for 9th January but I believe Ulster GAA are meeting to bring games forward now that there is no clash with football for Slaughtneil.

Where would game likely to be held? Semi final is usually on a home/away basis and Dunloy have home advantage this time. There was 6000 landed to Owenbeg last time they played in semi final.

Cormac O'Doherty picked up a shoulder injury in hurling final and missed the football semi and final. Would be a big miss for Slaughtneil if he wasn't able to make it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on November 09, 2021, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Slaughtneil free to concentrate on the hurling now..

When do they play the Dunlodians and has Horse worked out a way round their packed defence?

Game planned for 12th December with final down for 9th January but I believe Ulster GAA are meeting to bring games forward now that there is no clash with football for Slaughtneil.

Where would game likely to be held? Semi final is usually on a home/away basis and Dunloy have home advantage this time. There was 6000 landed to Owenbeg last time they played in semi final.

Cormac O'Doherty picked up a shoulder injury in hurling final and missed the football semi and final. Would be a big miss for Slaughtneil if he wasn't able to make it.

That would suggest Corrigan Park which might suit SN as it's a tight enough pitch, with room for the forwards at a premium..

O'Doherty would indeed be a big loss for them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.

That's a long aul drive for both teams, and supporters
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 09, 2021, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 09, 2021, 09:39:05 AM
Slaughtneil free to concentrate on the hurling now..

When do they play the Dunlodians and has Horse worked out a way round their packed defence?

Dunloy firstly have to match their physicality, S'neil have really good stick men also and strong in the tackle, this will be a very good game, not sure how it will pan out but hopefully Dunloy have the ability to get over the line.

The only way to get past a packed defence is to score from distance, breaking the lines against this team means losing the ball, accuracy from 50 meters will force a change in S'neil and they may have to change, which will leave pockets of space for the speed merchants up front to exploit.

Lat time in the All Ireland semi S'neil should have beaten Ballyhale in Newry. It would not have been a shock either

Refused to give ball to Karl mckaigue to work out and up the lines
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.

That makes lots of sense doesn't it. Crazy!

I had heard at the Johnnies/Dunloy game that Sneil and Dunloy been watching each other all season, love the confidence.

Think sneil just too much, be great to see Dunloy win. No football to contend with for the Derry boys will be massive help.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 05:17:11 AM
Sunday 12th December at The Athletic Grounds (ground tbc).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 05:17:11 AM
Sunday 12th December at The Athletic Grounds (ground tbc).

any one got any idea what the delay is for?

Every other year it was a panicking match to get Ulster played and now this year there is a long gap between?

I don't think any championship should be held up because of another code, if that is the reason.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 10, 2021, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 05:17:11 AM
Sunday 12th December at The Athletic Grounds (ground tbc).

any one got any idea what the delay is for?

Every other year it was a panicking match to get Ulster played and now this year there is a long gap between?

I don't think any championship should be held up because of another code, if that is the reason.

I get where you're coming from but it would have been foolish of the Ulster Council not to have contingencies in place like they have if Dunloy footballers won the Antrim intermediate football championship..  ;D

but yes, first instinct is to push the hurling out to suit football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 09:49:43 AM
Quote from: BealnaBlath on November 09, 2021, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.

That makes lots of sense doesn't it. Crazy!

I had heard at the Johnnies/Dunloy game that Sneil and Dunloy been watching each other all season, love the confidence.

Think sneil just too much, be great to see Dunloy win. No football to contend with for the Derry boys will be massive help.

Couple of the Dunloy management at the Derry Football Final on Sunday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.

That's a long aul drive for both teams, and supporters

Pain in the hole.

The Athletic Grounds wouldnt be in the best of shape this time of year. Celtic Park is a great surface and would suit a championship hurling match at this time of year.

Have heard that Dunloy would be up for playing in Celtic Park but not Owenbeg for some reason. One or two of the Dunloy lads might be able to confirm / deny.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 10, 2021, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 09, 2021, 03:59:53 PM
Heard its in Armagh.

That's a long aul drive for both teams, and supporters

Pain in the hole.

The Athletic Grounds wouldnt be in the best of shape this time of year. Celtic Park is a great surface and would suit a championship hurling match at this time of year.

Have heard that Dunloy would be up for playing in Celtic Park but not Owenbeg for some reason. One or two of the Dunloy lads might be able to confirm / deny.

Unless the drainage in Owenbeg has had a bit of work on it, it can't be in much nick itself...

Dunloy looking as dry a sod as possible I'd have thought.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 10:31:27 AM
Ballycastle, I'd have thought would have been the best 'home' pitch outside of Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

I think for the time of year Celtic Park would be the best option plus it would be a lot easier to get to rather than a 3 day camel ride to Armagh.

Owenbeg has had some remedial work done recently but there have been a good few Derry championship matches played there in the past month.

Carey v Carrickmore Ulster IHC match is scheduled for Ballycastle whilst the Glenravel v NCC match is scheduled for Loughgiel at the same time FFS.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NA Gael on November 10, 2021, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

I think for the time of year Celtic Park would be the best option plus it would be a lot easier to get to rather than a 3 day camel ride to Armagh.

Owenbeg has had some remedial work done recently but there have been a good few Derry championship matches played there in the past month.

Carey v Carrickmore Ulster IHC match is scheduled for Ballycastle whilst the Glenravel v NCC match is scheduled for Loughgiel at the same time FFS.

Toss for venue - Ballycastle or Glen, Maghera? (Dunloy v Slaughtneil)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 10, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

I think for the time of year Celtic Park would be the best option plus it would be a lot easier to get to rather than a 3 day camel ride to Armagh.

Owenbeg has had some remedial work done recently but there have been a good few Derry championship matches played there in the past month.

Carey v Carrickmore Ulster IHC match is scheduled for Ballycastle whilst the Glenravel v NCC match is scheduled for Loughgiel at the same time FFS.
Athletic Grounds is 1h30 from Dunloy and 1h15 from Slaughtneil. That's not a "3 day camel ride".
Regarding Celtic Park, it's 1h08 from Slaughtneil and 1h22 from Dunloy. So it's not much easier to get to either.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 10, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

I think for the time of year Celtic Park would be the best option plus it would be a lot easier to get to rather than a 3 day camel ride to Armagh.

Owenbeg has had some remedial work done recently but there have been a good few Derry championship matches played there in the past month.

Carey v Carrickmore Ulster IHC match is scheduled for Ballycastle whilst the Glenravel v NCC match is scheduled for Loughgiel at the same time FFS.
Athletic Grounds is 1h30 from Dunloy and 1h15 from Slaughtneil. That's not a "3 day camel ride".
Regarding Celtic Park, it's 1h08 from Slaughtneil and 1h22 from Dunloy. So it's not much easier to get to either.

50 mins to Slaughtneil, i do it regularly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 10, 2021, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 10, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 10, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 10, 2021, 10:24:54 AM
Going by the look of Celtic park for the football final on Sunday didnt look like the greatest option for a hurling game.

I think for the time of year Celtic Park would be the best option plus it would be a lot easier to get to rather than a 3 day camel ride to Armagh.

Owenbeg has had some remedial work done recently but there have been a good few Derry championship matches played there in the past month.

Carey v Carrickmore Ulster IHC match is scheduled for Ballycastle whilst the Glenravel v NCC match is scheduled for Loughgiel at the same time FFS.
Athletic Grounds is 1h30 from Dunloy and 1h15 from Slaughtneil. That's not a "3 day camel ride".
Regarding Celtic Park, it's 1h08 from Slaughtneil and 1h22 from Dunloy. So it's not much easier to get to either.

50 mins to Slaughtneil, i do it regularly
Aye it was from google maps. If you sent er on you can do them quicker
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:25:03 PM
It's only 32 miles .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??

Happy to beat Dunloy anywhere I'd say. Up Derry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??

Happy to beat Dunloy anywhere I'd say. Up Derry!

I take it that S'niel would be favourites for this game seeing they are unbeaten in Ulster club for so long
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 10, 2021, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??

Happy to beat Dunloy anywhere I'd say. Up Derry!

Back to that derry thread with you  ;D

Hard to know how this one will go. I think Dunloy will win but I thought that every other year too!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??

Happy to beat Dunloy anywhere I'd say. Up Derry!

I take it that S'niel would be favourites for this game seeing they are unbeaten in Ulster club for so long

Wrong

To win All-Ireland
Dunloy 14/1
Slaughtneil  25/1

Dunloy are also slight favourites for the individual fixture. Previous encounter with Slaughtneil they were very inexperienced with this squad. Not so much now. The Bookie is right.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 09:38:18 PM
Ah I jest a little, think this could be Dunloys to lose , Slaughtneil might not have the hunger, can't see either progressing far after Ulster and Slaughtneil willll know that in back of their heads
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 09:38:18 PM
Ah I jest a little, think this could be Dunloys to lose , Slaughtneil might not have the hunger, can't see either progressing far after Ulster and Slaughtneil willll know that in back of their heads

This Dunloy side are the most potent attacking side from Antrim since Loughiel of 2012. More than decent at the back too. Nigel Elliott the one big loss.

They'll give many teams in the south a run for their money even at this early stage of their development.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 10, 2021, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 09:38:18 PM
Ah I jest a little, think this could be Dunloys to lose , Slaughtneil might not have the hunger, can't see either progressing far after Ulster and Slaughtneil willll know that in back of their heads

This Dunloy side are the most potent attacking side from Antrim since Loughiel of 2012. More than decent at the back too. Nigel Elliott the one big loss.

They'll give many teams in the south a run for their money even at this early stage of their development.

They will . But they are not good enough to win it- yet
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 07:23:00 AM
MR2 watched St Louis despatch St Marys in the Mageean, with Owen Elliott refereeing, and was also told at the game Garrett Duffy is also refereeing University games, do you know why are these lads not reffn in our Football & Hurling Leagues?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 11, 2021, 08:50:15 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 10, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2021, 06:27:15 PM
Would S'neill not settle for Ballycastle??

Happy to beat Dunloy anywhere I'd say. Up Derry!

I take it that S'niel would be favourites for this game seeing they are unbeaten in Ulster club for so long

I know Down clubs don't count but I'd be near sure Ballycran beat them a few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 07:23:00 AM
MR2 watched St Louis despatch St Marys in the Mageean, with Owen Elliott refereeing, and was also told at the game Garrett Duffy is also refereeing University games, do you know why are these lads not reffn in our Football & Hurling Leagues?

Not sure, I was chatting to Garrett at Jordanstown, we were both doing games at the university. He's not interested in doing club games. Too much abuse I'd imagine. Owen still involved with camogie, again less abuse though knowing Owen it was always water off a ducks back.

Not sure what the policy is either for college games if I'm being honest. The games are handier than club games that's for sure. You should have asked them when you were at the game
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
Think Ballycran beat them in Corrigan in the Ulster semi final a few years back before Slaughtneil went on their winning run. Then dunged the togs in the Ulster final v Cushendall.

If Cormac O'Doherty is out for Slaughtneil he will be a major loss. He sustained a busted shoulder in the Derry hurling final v Lynches and didnt play in the Derry football final.

Unless Mickey McShane can fine tune their hurling and stickwork Id say Dunloy will win this.

Slaughtneil looked a tired team in the Derry hurling final where they did enough to keep Lynches at arms length and also looked jaded in the football final.

These lads have clocked up a right few miles this past few years and perhaps the desire may not be as prevalent as in previous years, but it is a hurling championship and Slaughtneil know how to win championships.

Id say it has all the ingredients of being a great match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2021, 09:21:36 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 07:23:00 AM
MR2 watched St Louis despatch St Marys in the Mageean, with Owen Elliott refereeing, and was also told at the game Garrett Duffy is also refereeing University games, do you know why are these lads not reffn in our Football & Hurling Leagues?

Not sure, I was chatting to Garrett at Jordanstown, we were both doing games at the university. He's not interested in doing club games. Too much abuse I'd imagine. Owen still involved with camogie, again less abuse though knowing Owen it was always water off a ducks back.

Not sure what the policy is either for college games if I'm being honest. The games are handier than club games that's for sure. You should have asked them when you were at the game

Owen refereed the Derry hurling final
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 07:23:00 AM
MR2 watched St Louis despatch St Marys in the Mageean, with Owen Elliott refereeing, and was also told at the game Garrett Duffy is also refereeing University games, do you know why are these lads not reffn in our Football & Hurling Leagues?

Not sure, I was chatting to Garrett at Jordanstown, we were both doing games at the university. He's not interested in doing club games. Too much abuse I'd imagine. Owen still involved with camogie, again less abuse though knowing Owen it was always water off a ducks back.

Not sure what the policy is either for college games if I'm being honest. The games are handier than club games that's for sure. You should have asked them when you were at the game

Would'nt know Elliott or Duffy well enough, cheers good to see they're are still at it in their own way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 02:19:42 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2021, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on November 11, 2021, 07:23:00 AM
MR2 watched St Louis despatch St Marys in the Mageean, with Owen Elliott refereeing, and was also told at the game Garrett Duffy is also refereeing University games, do you know why are these lads not reffn in our Football & Hurling Leagues?

Not sure, I was chatting to Garrett at Jordanstown, we were both doing games at the university. He's not interested in doing club games. Too much abuse I'd imagine. Owen still involved with camogie, again less abuse though knowing Owen it was always water off a ducks back.

Not sure what the policy is either for college games if I'm being honest. The games are handier than club games that's for sure. You should have asked them when you were at the game

Would'nt know Elliott or Duffy well enough, cheers good to see they're are still at it in their own way.

Two good lads, I much prefer Elliott's style of ref'ing. (not that I don't like Garrett's lol) I'd say the level they were ref'ing at (intercounty) can be very draining on time and commitment from others (Umpires),

Plenty of factors involved in their reasons to step down from the regular league games, there is defo a shelf life to this game considering the abuse some referee's take.

I noticed a few strikes by referee's in different sports recently, parents abusing young referee's (15/16 year olds) at kids games, one guy on the radio was asked what sort of comments the parents where shouting and he said it wasn't fit for day time live radio. But I'm sure the abusers feel justified as they left the ground
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 11, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
Think Ballycran beat them in Corrigan in the Ulster semi final a few years back before Slaughtneil went on their winning run. Then dunged the togs in the Ulster final v Cushendall.

If Cormac O'Doherty is out for Slaughtneil he will be a major loss. He sustained a busted shoulder in the Derry hurling final v Lynches and didnt play in the Derry football final.

Unless Mickey McShane can fine tune their hurling and stickwork Id say Dunloy will win this.

Slaughtneil looked a tired team in the Derry hurling final where they did enough to keep Lynches at arms length and also looked jaded in the football final.

These lads have clocked up a right few miles this past few years and perhaps the desire may not be as prevalent as in previous years, but it is a hurling championship and Slaughtneil know how to win championships.

Id say it has all the ingredients of being a great match.

Is he still in charge of Slaughtneil? Wouldn't have thought so.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 12, 2021, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 11, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 11, 2021, 09:20:25 AM
Think Ballycran beat them in Corrigan in the Ulster semi final a few years back before Slaughtneil went on their winning run. Then dunged the togs in the Ulster final v Cushendall.

If Cormac O'Doherty is out for Slaughtneil he will be a major loss. He sustained a busted shoulder in the Derry hurling final v Lynches and didnt play in the Derry football final.

Unless Mickey McShane can fine tune their hurling and stickwork Id say Dunloy will win this.

Slaughtneil looked a tired team in the Derry hurling final where they did enough to keep Lynches at arms length and also looked jaded in the football final.

These lads have clocked up a right few miles this past few years and perhaps the desire may not be as prevalent as in previous years, but it is a hurling championship and Slaughtneil know how to win championships.

Id say it has all the ingredients of being a great match.

Is he still in charge of Slaughtneil? Wouldn't have thought so.
Aye, managining Slaughneil. Nander and Noel Brick are part of his coaching team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on November 16, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
What are the chances in the other Ulster Matches.
Carey vs Middletown and Glenravel vs Naoimh Colmicille
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 16, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
What are the chances in the other Ulster Matches.
Carey vs Middletown and Glenravel vs Naoimh Colmicille

Carey should win with a bit to spare, and If Glenravel play the way they did against Glenarm, and not the way the played against Lamhs then they should get over the line
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on November 16, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Were Carey not down to play winners of tyrone?
Is carrickmore?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 16, 2021, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: saffman on November 16, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Were Carey not down to play winners of tyrone?
Is carrickmore?

They are.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 16, 2021, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: saffman on November 16, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Were Carey not down to play winners of tyrone?
Is carrickmore?

They are.

When/where are these games being played?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 17, 2021, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2021, 03:45:50 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 16, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
What are the chances in the other Ulster Matches.
Carey vs Middletown and Glenravel vs Naoimh Colmicille

Carey should win with a bit to spare, and If Glenravel play the way they did against Glenarm, and not the way the played against Lamhs then they should get over the line

Glenravel like two different teams over both games MR. Glenarm a higher quality side than Hannahstown. Great performance in final though and they should have enough.

I wouldn't underestimate Carrickmore, watched few Carey games this year in league and championship. Can be frustrating on the day but fancy them to win by 5 or 6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on November 17, 2021, 05:06:26 PM
Why are people posting Carey V Middletown?

Dungannon have proved to be a serious Intermediate outfit in previous years & Div 2. Carrickmore have beaten them in the last 2 years to win Tyrone. They will be aiming for an Ulster title so by no means a given for Carey.

That being said if Carey have the right mindset & approach the game the right way I fancy them to get over the line by 2/3 points.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on November 17, 2021, 06:21:18 PM
I thinks its pretty poor that our county hurling champions at various levels have been sitting for what must be close to 6 weeks waiting on the first round of Ulster to be played. I assume they have found it difficult to get friendlies. Having said that I am sure these clubs are delighted to have this winter distraction.  Good luck to them all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 17, 2021, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2021, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 16, 2021, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: saffman on November 16, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Were Carey not down to play winners of tyrone?
Is carrickmore?

They are.

When/where are these games being played?

Sunday week, 1.30pm, Ballycastle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on November 18, 2021, 09:20:54 AM
My mistake it is Carrickmore that they are playing  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BealnaBlath on November 18, 2021, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 18, 2021, 09:20:54 AM
My mistake it is Carrickmore that they are playing  ;D

If I was Carey man I'd prefer to be playing Middletown. Carrickmore (actually Eire Og) are a very good side and hope they are not underestimated by  they Carey lads. With the management in place I would be surprised if that was the case though
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 18, 2021, 09:54:11 PM
Middleton are a handy outfit.

Did they not reach the All Ireland intermediate final several years ago.

They gave Cushendall their fill of it in Owenbeg in the Ulster SHC the year Cushendall reached the final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 18, 2021, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 18, 2021, 09:54:11 PM
Middleton are a handy outfit.

Did they not reach the All Ireland intermediate final several years ago.

They gave Cushendall their fill of it in Owenbeg in the Ulster SHC the year Cushendall reached the final.

Big men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 18, 2021, 11:15:00 PM
Banagher play winners of Castleblayney v Middleton
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2021, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: podge on November 17, 2021, 06:21:18 PM
I thinks its pretty poor that our county hurling champions at various levels have been sitting for what must be close to 6 weeks waiting on the first round of Ulster to be played. I assume they have found it difficult to get friendlies. Having said that I am sure these clubs are delighted to have this winter distraction.  Good luck to them all.

Maybe it was due to the football, but I couldn't understand why Antrim run off their finals when they did knowing that there'd be a big gap to the Ulster campaigns.

Down intermediate hurling final was yesterday, the junior on the day before with the senior played two Sundays ago.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 22, 2021, 10:54:30 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2021, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: podge on November 17, 2021, 06:21:18 PM
I thinks its pretty poor that our county hurling champions at various levels have been sitting for what must be close to 6 weeks waiting on the first round of Ulster to be played. I assume they have found it difficult to get friendlies. Having said that I am sure these clubs are delighted to have this winter distraction.  Good luck to them all.

Maybe it was due to the football, but I couldn't understand why Antrim run off their finals when they did knowing that there'd be a big gap to the Ulster campaigns.

Down intermediate hurling final was yesterday, the junior on the day before with the senior played two Sundays ago.
Newry Shamrocks must be doing a hell of a lot at underage. Fair play to them on their IHC victory.

I'd have said Carryduff would have been massive favourites having won all their group games.

The Ulster IHC will be an interesting competition this year - a lot of teams there more than capable of winning that.

Johnny, who won the Down JHC ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 23, 2021, 11:12:15 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 22, 2021, 10:54:30 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2021, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: podge on November 17, 2021, 06:21:18 PM
I thinks its pretty poor that our county hurling champions at various levels have been sitting for what must be close to 6 weeks waiting on the first round of Ulster to be played. I assume they have found it difficult to get friendlies. Having said that I am sure these clubs are delighted to have this winter distraction.  Good luck to them all.

Maybe it was due to the football, but I couldn't understand why Antrim run off their finals when they did knowing that there'd be a big gap to the Ulster campaigns.

Down intermediate hurling final was yesterday, the junior on the day before with the senior played two Sundays ago.
Newry Shamrocks must be doing a hell of a lot at underage. Fair play to them on their IHC victory.

I'd have said Carryduff would have been massive favourites having won all their group games.

The Ulster IHC will be an interesting competition this year - a lot of teams there more than capable of winning that.

Johnny, who won the Down JHC ?

I wouldn't say that TBH, but their social media game is top notch   ;)

Big city/town but the hurling burden is carried by very few people so fair play to them on that, they'd a good enough minor setup three or four years ago but nothing since then at any level that I can see. The McGuinnesses are still some of their main players and they've been on the go for donkeys years..


Ballela won the junior


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on November 26, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
Carey by 2
Con Magees by 3
Loughgiel Camogs by a point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
who are loughgiel camogs playing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 28, 2021, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
who are loughgiel camogs playing?

Ended controversially in a draw with Slaughtneil. Referee reportedly blew the game up early with Loughiel on the attack.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 28, 2021, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
who are loughgiel camogs playing?

Ended controversially in a draw with Slaughtneil. Referee reportedly blew the game up early with Loughiel on the attack.

Had you the ref's watch?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
According to the commentary, the ref signalled 2 mins of injury time but didn't play any at all.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
According to the commentary, the ref signalled 2 mins of injury time but didn't play any at all.

Was televised? Remember doing a televised game and the timing the 'tv' had was completely different to mine
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 28, 2021, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
According to the commentary, the ref signalled 2 mins of injury time but didn't play any at all.

Was televised? Remember doing a televised game and the timing the 'tv' had was completely different to mine

PJ O' Mullan was interviewed after it and according to him restarted his watch after water break, there was to be 15 mins plus 2 injury. He blew up at 14mins 30secs according to PJ
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 28, 2021, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
According to the commentary, the ref signalled 2 mins of injury time but didn't play any at all.

Was televised? Remember doing a televised game and the timing the 'tv' had was completely different to mine

PJ O' Mullan was interviewed after it and according to him restarted his watch after water break, there was to be 15 mins plus 2 injury. He blew up at 14mins 30secs according to PJ

Ok, that's true story then.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 28, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 28, 2021, 08:27:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
According to the commentary, the ref signalled 2 mins of injury time but didn't play any at all.

Was televised? Remember doing a televised game and the timing the 'tv' had was completely different to mine

PJ O' Mullan was interviewed after it and according to him restarted his watch after water break, there was to be 15 mins plus 2 injury. He blew up at 14mins 30secs according to PJ

Ok, that's true story then.

I'm just stating what he said  :)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 09:17:34 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/59453219
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 28, 2021, 09:17:34 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/59453219

So in the end there was 2.30 mins left which could have ended up with them losing?

But the draw will give both teams another go?

Before that link I thought it was last chance attack and winner takes all!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on November 29, 2021, 12:08:07 PM
good result for loughgiel camogs and Glenravel, I'm sure Carey will be disappointed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on November 29, 2021, 12:08:07 PM
good result for loughgiel camogs and Glenravel, I'm sure Carey will be disappointed

Anyone at the Carey game?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 06:03:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 28, 2021, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
who are loughgiel camogs playing?

Ended controversially in a draw with Slaughtneil. Referee reportedly blew the game up early with Loughiel on the attack.

Had you the ref's watch?

Read the post again. It worries me that someone who can't infer the information from a very basic post is in charge of senior games in our county.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 06:03:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 28, 2021, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 26, 2021, 02:20:53 PM
who are loughgiel camogs playing?

Ended controversially in a draw with Slaughtneil. Referee reportedly blew the game up early with Loughiel on the attack.

Had you the ref's watch?

Read the post again. It worries me that someone who can't infer the information from a very basic post is in charge of senior games in our county.

Aye like I'll take your posts seriously, "must be on his period" the humour of a child
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Did you not read the report and listen to what he said. He started his watch after the water break and it was 2 and a half minutes out after the ref confirmed how long there would be to play from then.
Facts are he ended the match early and therefore it is controversial, so he deserves his criticism. You can take a break from being a referee apologist.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Did you not read the report and listen to what he said. He started his watch after the water break and it was 2 and a half minutes out after the ref confirmed how long there would be to play from then.
Facts are he ended the match early and therefore it is controversial, so he deserves his criticism. You can take a break from being a referee apologist.

If he started it at that time, that is. Who to believe?

Again you or I was not timing the game. Knowing PJ I'm sure it was recorded, knowing the detail that goes into his coaching, so it'll be easy to check back.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on November 29, 2021, 09:16:27 PM
Crazy stuff here from you MR2
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 29, 2021, 09:16:27 PM
Crazy stuff here from you MR2

What's crazy? I haven't said it wasn't played 2.30mins less. But most people here believe it was!

That's taking away what a great match the game was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Did you not read the report and listen to what he said. He started his watch after the water break and it was 2 and a half minutes out after the ref confirmed how long there would be to play from then.
Facts are he ended the match early and therefore it is controversial, so he deserves his criticism. You can take a break from being a referee apologist.

If he started it at that time, that is. Who to believe?

Again you or I was not timing the game. Knowing PJ I'm sure it was recorded, knowing the detail that goes into his coaching, so it'll be easy to check back.
If he started the game when it should've been started? Really? Are you saying the ref didn't start the game at the right time on purpose. PJ started his watch straight after the water break and was told there'd be 15+2 remaining, and there wasn't even 15. It's clear as day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Did you not read the report and listen to what he said. He started his watch after the water break and it was 2 and a half minutes out after the ref confirmed how long there would be to play from then.
Facts are he ended the match early and therefore it is controversial, so he deserves his criticism. You can take a break from being a referee apologist.

If he started it at that time, that is. Who to believe?

Again you or I was not timing the game. Knowing PJ I'm sure it was recorded, knowing the detail that goes into his coaching, so it'll be easy to check back.
If he started the game when it should've been started? Really? Are you saying the ref didn't start the game at the right time on purpose. PJ started his watch straight after the water break and was told there'd be 15+2 remaining, and there wasn't even 15. It's clear as day.

If PJ started his watch at the same time as the ref.

Like I said if it was recorded it will be easy worked out. I haven't seen it to say it was short, neither have you.

Was match recorded online? PPV? 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on November 29, 2021, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 08:27:54 PM
Cantankerous/on your period ....whichever you prefer. You do seem to be rather touchy about once a month. You can forgive my reasoning. Read your last few posts.

I'll take you seriously when you get on like an adult.

I d read the report, if and it's a big if, the referee played 2.30 minutes short then it was plenty time to lose or win the game.

Just because someone has a stop watch around his neck doesn't means it's in time with the ref's.

So lots of assumptions being reported, loughgiel and S'niel will go at it again and the best team will win, controversial it wasn't
Did you not read the report and listen to what he said. He started his watch after the water break and it was 2 and a half minutes out after the ref confirmed how long there would be to play from then.
Facts are he ended the match early and therefore it is controversial, so he deserves his criticism. You can take a break from being a referee apologist.

If he started it at that time, that is. Who to believe?

Again you or I was not timing the game. Knowing PJ I'm sure it was recorded, knowing the detail that goes into his coaching, so it'll be easy to check back.
If he started the game when it should've been started? Really? Are you saying the ref didn't start the game at the right time on purpose. PJ started his watch straight after the water break and was told there'd be 15+2 remaining, and there wasn't even 15. It's clear as day.

If PJ started his watch at the same time as the ref.

Like I said if it was recorded it will be easy worked out. I haven't seen it to say it was short, neither have you.

Was match recorded online? PPV?
He said he reset it after the water break. Even the commentator said the red blew it up a few minutes early and he had the time clock in front of him.
Clear enough that the ref made a balls of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 10:08:17 PM
I've no issues btw, my posts are about the report claiming it to be blew early, I've done games where people are always questioning the time.

The thing is if the ref blew it 2.30 early it would show very clearly on his watch. I can get it if he plays more time but at the very minimum you'd (I'd) find it impossible to blow while it was under 30mins. That's just my thinking on it.

At that level those lads are well scrutinised so if he has made a balls up it'll go against him
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on November 29, 2021, 10:10:09 PM
MR2, go to bed. You clearly got 2 and a half minutes less sleep than you needed last night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on November 29, 2021, 10:20:39 PM
MR2 states... The thing is if the ref blew it 2.30 early it would show very clearly on his watch. I can get it if he plays more time but at the very minimum you'd (I'd) find it impossible to blow while it was under 30 mins.
Cmon MR2,  wise up lad. Remember Offaly v Clare 1998 A/I semifinal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
Did the first Offaly game end in a draw?

Should bring in the time clock like they've in ladies football.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on November 30, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
Did the first Offaly game end in a draw?

Should bring in the time clock like they've in ladies football.


There's merit in this IMO across GAA affiliated codes, especially championship games where there's a fourth official most of the time.


As for the camogie, ref made a mistake, both teams get another day out, even PJ wasn't overly perturbed by it (if you've ever seen him properly perturbed then you'll know what I mean).
Ulster Camogie get another gate which I'd hope both teams get a slice out of.

Slaughtneil have had the very, very slightest of the better of it between these two teams over the recent years but only just.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2021, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 30, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
Did the first Offaly game end in a draw?

Should bring in the time clock like they've in ladies football.


There's merit in this IMO across GAA affiliated codes, especially championship games where there's a fourth official most of the time.


As for the camogie, ref made a mistake, both teams get another day out, even PJ wasn't overly perturbed by it (if you've ever seen him properly perturbed then you'll know what I mean).
Ulster Camogie get another gate which I'd hope both teams get a slice out of.

Slaughtneil have had the very, very slightest of the better of it between these two teams over the recent years but only just.

Didn't realise there was highlights and after watching that and hearing Sidebottoms call on the timing issue, I'll concede that the ref got that wrong!!

I've Ref's S'niel a few times and was very impressed with their natural skill levels, though this was the year before covid so that team would be getting older. Shannon in midfield would get on most men's teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 03, 2021, 10:06:46 PM
Some result for Red High Downpatrick in Mageean semi tonight v St Louis. So no Antrim team in the final

Young McGrattan very impressive, didn't get it from the grass
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 12:27:04 PM
Very rare you would see no Antrim teams in a mageean final. In fact I don't think I can ever remember a time.

Still both teams were very close so I don't think it is a crisis.

Is mcgrattan Gerard's son?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 04, 2021, 06:42:55 PM
Slaughtneil took their chances today . Very hard conditions. Tough cuddies on both teams
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 07:31:08 PM
Big enough win. Had hoped loughgiel would break that hoodoo but slaughtneil are good.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 04, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 07:31:08 PM
Big enough win. Had hoped loughgiel would break that hoodoo but slaughtneil are good.

Pulled away last 15
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
We're you at it? Be interesting to see what slaughtneil do on the ai stage. Was that the 2020 or 2021 final? Do they not have to play again or am I mistaken?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 04, 2021, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
We're you at it? Be interesting to see what slaughtneil do on the ai stage. Was that the 2020 or 2021 final? Do they not have to play again or am I mistaken?

I was. It was very difficult for both teams to get going and honestly there is very little between both. I think they go into AISF now against Oulart a Ballagh Wexford.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 10:10:22 PM
That was the 2020 final. They play again in the 2021 final in a couple of weeks. Be sick of the sight of each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 04, 2021, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 10:10:22 PM
That was the 2020 final. They play again in the 2021 final in a couple of weeks. Be sick of the sight of each other.

Didn't realise that even, aye they will
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2021, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2021, 12:27:04 PM
Very rare you would see no Antrim teams in a mageean final. In fact I don't think I can ever remember a time.

Still both teams were very close so I don't think it is a crisis.

Is mcgrattan Gerard's son?

Yes, you can tell by the build of him, got that shoulder thing going. Very fine hurler with serious pace and knows where the net is.

From all accounts there was nothing between the two teams till Red High sent a lad back to sweep and that seemed to work for them and cut out the scoring down their end.

They've beaten St Pats already in the round robin but IMO the losing team normally learns more than the winning team so I'd be concerned about that.

First time ever for a Down school in it's own right featuring in the final, the last time was a collection of schools but the Red High are pulling from Castlewellan, Liatroim to the west as well as Carryduff to the north, on top of the Ards. One of the Castlewellan lads, Cunningham is a tidy enough hurler from what I saw of him this summer in the club stuff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2021, 09:37:50 AM
I would say it's good to see but I wouldn't mean it  ;D

Ach it can only be good for the game and those two semis were tight enough affairs so it's not like the antrim teams have really dropped off.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jimmy on December 06, 2021, 10:31:04 AM
Is Downpatrick competing at Mageean level a sustainable thing or do they just have a strong group?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2021, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: Jimmy on December 06, 2021, 10:31:04 AM
Is Downpatrick competing at Mageean level a sustainable thing or do they just have a strong group?

They've certainly a strong group re-enforced during the summer when a few lads moved from St Columba's Portaferry to do A Levels in the red high.

I'd hope they'd stay at Mageean level and should be strong next year as well as a lot of their current team would be lower 6th and a few 5th yrs on it based on the various strengths of club huring and after that if Knock get their finger out they too should be strong as Bredagh and ourselves would have been strong @U15 this year and a lot of our hurlers went there instead of the Red High.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on December 07, 2021, 12:01:11 PM
Dunloy v slaughtneil draw

Con magees vs Craobh Rua 3 to Con Magees
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 07, 2021, 12:01:11 PM
Dunloy v slaughtneil draw

Con magees vs Craobh Rua 3 to Con Magees

Really looking forward to this game, its a double header in Armagh, I don't see how S'neil will have changed too much other than getting older, Dunloy will have improved physically and no doubt have been eyeing this game up for 2 years. The problem is Dunloy haven't had a competitive game since the final, how they will be able to adopt to the physical side of things will go a long way in deciding the outcome, they are naturally better stick men,and so are S'niell but Dunloy just that bit better..

Tactics will play a big part in this and how they match up, or sweeper systems

S'neill haven't had the football to worry about so they will be more focused on sharpening up their skills. It really is a 50/50 call
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 07:21:44 PM
Shocking news about Colin Murray the ref.

May he RIP
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 07:21:44 PM
Shocking news about Colin Murray the ref.

May he RIP

Yeah, got the news this morning, awful such a young family, tragic
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2021, 10:06:43 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 07, 2021, 07:21:44 PM
Shocking news about Colin Murray the ref.

May he RIP

God reffed loads of our games, good ref and nice guy rip
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 07, 2021, 11:03:46 PM
4pm for the Dunloy game, is that correct? That's a poor decision in light of (pardon the pun) visibility. The game will have to finish under lights.

RIP Colin, a very nice man.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on December 08, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan

There's already a match on in Ibrox at 1pm
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 09:09:54 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 08, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan

There's already a match on in Ibrox at 1pm

Ah!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 08, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan

There's already a match on in Ibrox at 1pm

Yeah an Armagh team playing in Belfast while the senior game goes to Armagh - some logic being applied here.

But then nothing with Ulster Council and their attitude to hurling would surprise any of us at this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 09:42:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 08, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan

There's already a match on in Ibrox at 1pm

Yeah an Armagh team playing in Belfast while the senior game goes to Armagh - some logic being applied here.

But then nothing with Ulster Council and their attitude to hurling would surprise any of us at this point.

Clubs asked why they are playing the hurling so late after the county finals had all been played weeks earlier, they said they are promoting football, as if football isn't promoted enough in Ulster
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
It's a shambolic decision. Complete idiots
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 08, 2021, 10:51:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 09:42:32 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 08, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 08, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
RIP for sure

Ridiculous decision for the SN v DL game. It will start under lights, probably the biggest hurling game of the year and this is what they do with it.

Stupid time, considering the intermediate is on before it at 1.45pm, I don't see the logic of having two hurling matches this time of the year on winter pitches! I'm not overly concerned about the lights, they'll have been training away under lights and It'll be the same for both, would much prefer a 2pm throw in though, at Corrigan

There's already a match on in Ibrox at 1pm

Yeah an Armagh team playing in Belfast while the senior game goes to Armagh - some logic being applied here.

But then nothing with Ulster Council and their attitude to hurling would surprise any of us at this point.

Clubs asked why they are playing the hurling so late after the county finals had all been played weeks earlier, they said they are promoting football, as if football isn't promoted enough in Ulster
Yes football in Ulster definitely needs all the support it can get. On its knees.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 11:45:45 AM
And 2 weeks of hurling matches would definitely cripple it  :o Muppets.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on December 08, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
The scheduling this year as a whole has been poor this year from Ulster Council. Id say lads are sick of training 13 months in a row now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 08, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 08, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
The scheduling this year as a whole has been poor this year from Ulster Council. Id say lads are sick of training 13 months in a row now

Why did Antrim run their senior hurling championship off so early considering they knew that the eventual champions would be sitting on their hands doing nothing?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2021, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 08, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 08, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
The scheduling this year as a whole has been poor this year from Ulster Council. Id say lads are sick of training 13 months in a row now

Why did Antrim run their senior hurling championship off so early considering they knew that the eventual champions would be sitting on their hands doing nothing?

I think having a better pitch better weather better attendances? regardless, this is longer than normal, the winners will be out the following week after a bruising affair and Ballycran could, spring a shock
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 03:35:18 PM
If Dunloy win I couldn't see Ballycran beating them. I think Slaughtneil are a different beast in how they play and Ballycran could have a chance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 08, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 03:35:18 PM
If Dunloy win I couldn't see Ballycran beating them. I think Slaughtneil are a different beast in how they play and Ballycran could have a chance.

This is winter hurling lads, very different to the harder, faster pitches preferred by Dunloy and what they've been used to

At the start of the Down Championship Portaferry gave Ballycran the run around pace wise, but come the final it wasn't as telling on a soft pitch in Newry, yes Ballycran improved, found a better balance as the year went on but their bigger physical presence was now able to win ball that was gone two months earlier.

I give them a punchers chance against whoever comes out of the battle in Armagh and TBH if this crap weather keeps up the more I'd go for Slaughtneil albeit they might need an injury or two to clear up to help them over Dunloy but it's certainly not a clear cut win for Dunloy.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on December 09, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.
I thought Dunloy were excellent tactically against Rossa in the final pushing up on the puck outs and causing turnovers. I would expect them to try something similar on Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on December 09, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.
I thought Dunloy were excellent tactically against Rossa in the final pushing up on the puck outs and causing turnovers. I would expect them to try something similar on Sunday

Yeah and to counter that S'Neil have plenty of ball winners should they go long, can't assess them as it's been 2 years now, being a point or two away from beating the eventual winners and seeing as that team is still winning the Kilkenny championship its difficult to find a form line on them. Dunloy have improved a lot also, both age and physically.

Be a good match
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2021, 10:59:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.

That was certainly an issue the last time they played in Newry.

From what I've saw from Dunloy they lack a big physical target man up front who can either win his own ball in the air or break it down to the speedsters coming off him for the break so they're going to have to work the long range points from midfield and beyond and get a lead on SN going into the last quarter forcing SN to push up and leave more space for the Dunloy forwards..

How the deal with Brendan Rodgers and Shay ?? McGuigan at the other end will have an effect on the game as they can win their own ball and know where the net is. Blunt them and as much as it'll be a dour contest neither team will give a shite if they're victors in the end.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 11:05:24 AM
Tbh a big physical ball winner is something we have lacked in the county for years never mind Dunloy. That is why McManus always gets moved up into the forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 09, 2021, 11:05:54 AM
I was thinking Dunloy few weeks back. As the pitches get sodden im turning more to Sneil. There is no bounce any more in the ball, if it doesnt go staright to hand, it will be the boys wiht the bigger thighs and arses that will win in
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 09, 2021, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on December 09, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.
I thought Dunloy were excellent tactically against Rossa in the final pushing up on the puck outs and causing turnovers. I would expect them to try something similar on Sunday

Turmoil within the Rossa squad/management before the final detracted from their performance on the day. Certainly didn't help. It is my belief Colly Murphy has quit as a result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2021, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 09, 2021, 11:25:21 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on December 09, 2021, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I did say if. I am not convinced Dunloy will win... I hope they do but not sure. I thought that they came up a bit short tactically last few games - especially how they handle sweepers and a more packed defense -  so hopefully Dick O'Kane has learned from it.
I thought Dunloy were excellent tactically against Rossa in the final pushing up on the puck outs and causing turnovers. I would expect them to try something similar on Sunday

Turmoil within the Rossa squad/management before the final detracted from their performance on the day. Certainly didn't help. It is my belief Colly Murphy has quit as a result.

A few weeks ago. Some player unrest apparently
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 11:48:25 AM
Cody could have taken that team against Dunloy that day and there still would have been one outcome, Dunloy blew them out of the water, didn't help that a few frees weren't taken, they at the very least would have kept them closer, but Dunloy got it right, Collie got them there, there is no shame in losing a final.

Selection of teams will never please everyone, that's his job, players won't always like a manager, but you are playing for the club, family and in a lot of cases the parish. any issues players have should never come in the way of representing all that.

From what I seen over the last few years Rossa are well established and have the bones of a championship winning team or two there.

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Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 12:10:04 PM
Only for the age demographic of Dunloy maybe but couldn't see it. They were so far off the pace on final day.
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 09, 2021, 03:05:09 PM
Very valid points by all but the feeling in Dunloy in regards to the last time in Newry is we just played sh..e and there was still only three points in it when Nigel Elliott was sent off very harshly. The narrative is we must learn how to win against meat grinder teams in conditions that favor teams like S/N. Our last good team had no problem with the robust mindset Derry teams bring so these lads are at a crossroads. Call me overconfident but I think we have enough to get over the line. Hats off to Tommygun on highlighting most Antrim players Aerial ball winning abilities, it's been a big problem for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Except for John and Conor Carson lol. (No I'm not from Cushendall haha). I hope you're right NAH.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 09, 2021, 03:05:09 PM
Very valid points by all but the feeling in Dunloy in regards to the last time in Newry is we just played sh..e and there was still only three points in it when Nigel Elliott was sent off very harshly. The narrative is we must learn how to win against meat grinder teams in conditions that favor teams like S/N. Our last good team had no problem with the robust mindset Derry teams bring so these lads are at a crossroads. Call me overconfident but I think we have enough to get over the line. Hats off to Tommygun on highlighting most Antrim players Aerial ball winning abilities, it's been a big problem for years.

Ok, Overconfident... lol

I hope you are right

Big Jackie was a great ball winner out on the wing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 03:48:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Except for John and Conor Carson lol. (No I'm not from Cushendall haha). I hope you're right NAH.

Edit: just seen that lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2021, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Except for John and Conor Carson lol. (No I'm not from Cushendall haha). I hope you're right NAH.

Big Jackie was good in the air, not only catching, but the big one handed swing (normally because he'd his other hand in your face  ;D  )

Horse and Paddy Richmond were good in the air if not overly tall, Paddy in particular liked to catch from behind you, all to do with the timing with him and he was good at it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2021, 04:01:06 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2021, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 09, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Except for John and Conor Carson lol. (No I'm not from Cushendall haha). I hope you're right NAH.

Big Jackie was good in the air, not only catching, but the big one handed swing (normally because he'd his other hand in your face  ;D  )

Horse and Paddy Richmond were good in the air if not overly tall, Paddy in particular liked to catch from behind you, all to do with the timing with him and he was good at it.

Clute too, and christ knows I swung like hell to get that ball. Big Mort to at Cushendun could catch
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on December 10, 2021, 06:32:37 PM
Like to wish both teams luck this weekend
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 07:23:27 PM
I see the first game at the athletic grounds has been moved, totally sensible this time of year playing two games on one pitch!

Will they move the other game to a sensible time?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 10, 2021, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on December 10, 2021, 06:32:37 PM
Like to wish both teams luck this weekend

I'd like to wish the Antrim team good luck. Come on Dunloy, you are insanely talented. You can do this.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2021, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 07:23:27 PM

Will they move the other game to a sensible time?

Slaughtneil camogie playing All Ireland semi final at 12pm in Ashbourne on same day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on December 10, 2021, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 07:23:27 PM

Will they move the other game to a sensible time?

Slaughtneil camogie playing All Ireland semi final at 12pm in Ashbourne on same day.

That's a doable journey I suppose for the parish
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 10, 2021, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on December 10, 2021, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 07:23:27 PM

Will they move the other game to a sensible time?

Slaughtneil camogie playing All Ireland semi final at 12pm in Ashbourne on same day.

That's a doable journey I suppose for the parish

Long day  but let's admit it, how many of us would love to be in that position
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 10, 2021, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on December 10, 2021, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2021, 07:23:27 PM

Will they move the other game to a sensible time?

Slaughtneil camogie playing All Ireland semi final at 12pm in Ashbourne on same day.

That's a doable journey I suppose for the parish

Long day  but let's admit it, how many of us would love to be in that position

All day long!! This is what your club is all about
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 04:50:29 PM
Shorty needs to be pulled at this point
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 12, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
Slaughtneil curbing Dunloy's attacking threat up to this point.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 05:09:25 PM
Only one winner at this rate, long balls being eaten up and Rodgers is winning every ball. Can't see how Dunloy get back, if they don't get a goal then S'niel will be through to meet  Ballycran
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 12, 2021, 05:12:35 PM
Think they'll need 2 goals at this stage. Can't see the game turning much at this stage. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 12, 2021, 05:31:42 PM
CLG Roibeard Eiméid, Sleacht Néill.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 05:31:45 PM
That's a comprehensive defeat, forget about physicality, S'niel hurled really well..

Antrim club hurling well behind S'niel for previous 4 years now.
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Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 12, 2021, 05:33:19 PM
Who do the Ulster champions play in the semi final this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 12, 2021, 05:33:19 PM
Who do the Ulster champions play in the semi final this year?

Not sure, they played ballyhale last day, so either Galway or Munster champions, St Thomas's or Ballygunner or Limerick champions who were impressive
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Rawhide on December 12, 2021, 05:45:12 PM
Dunloy after all their talking, couldn't back it up. Want Sneil blah blah. Sneil way to strong and better hurling. I don't think Dunloy have learned alot from two years ago. I said it then and will repeat it, they need a football coach to teach them how to use their body in tackles. The ref I thought calved  at making the call on a straight forward second  yellow to give a red to Dunloy. He knew what he was at instead of doing his job. Sneils running game in the second half was brilliant
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: left peg on December 12, 2021, 06:37:12 PM
Thugs with hurls
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Post by: paddyjohn on December 12, 2021, 09:40:15 PM
Mind the time the Dunloy boys were giving me abuse about the ballymena man.

:-X :-X :-X

Dunloy have been worthy champions as last 3 years. They've peaked at the right times in Antrim and they'll come again.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
No Antrim teams in the three finals..
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Post by: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Bad times.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Bad times.

The county team is doing well but we should be competing at club level on all grades. No Antrim team in school final also, so forget about Belfast being poor, that's the worst year I've seen for Antrim clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on December 12, 2021, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Bad times.

The county team is doing well but we should be competing at club level on all grades. No Antrim team in school final also, so forget about Belfast being poor, that's the worst year I've seen for Antrim clubs

Is hurling dead in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 12, 2021, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Bad times.

The county team is doing well but we should be competing at club level on all grades. No Antrim team in school final also, so forget about Belfast being poor, that's the worst year I've seen for Antrim clubs

Is hurling dead in Antrim?

Club wise we've hit a low....

County wise hopefully we'll push on again this year..

I didn't see anything to suggest that S'niel shouldn't have been favourites. They won as well today has they have in the past.

Derry hurling though at county level does not reflect the club standards, Banagher won today also, against a decent Armagh team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: toby47 on December 13, 2021, 08:16:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on December 12, 2021, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 12, 2021, 09:50:55 PM
Bad times.

The county team is doing well but we should be competing at club level on all grades. No Antrim team in school final also, so forget about Belfast being poor, that's the worst year I've seen for Antrim clubs

Is hurling dead in Antrim?

Club wise we've hit a low....

County wise hopefully we'll push on again this year..

I didn't see anything to suggest that S'niel shouldn't have been favourites. They won as well today has they have in the past.

Derry hurling though at county level does not reflect the club standards, Banagher won today also, against a decent Armagh team.

That's because Slaughtneil would beat Derry by 10+ points
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Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
There isn't buy in at all from the county board in  Derry for county hurling and then they have a dual split as well.

Dunloy in the hurling and Loughgiel in the camogie just can't get the measure of Slaughtneil at all.

I actually think despite being Dunly much superior in Antrim teams like Cushendall would do better against Slaughtneil as they're more physical.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on December 13, 2021, 08:34:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
No Antrim teams in the three finals..

Might be an opportunity for Antrim refs to get to do an Ulster hurling final then ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2021, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 13, 2021, 08:34:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
No Antrim teams in the three finals..

Might be an opportunity for Antrim refs to get to do an Ulster hurling final then ;D

Have boots ready  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2021, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
There isn't buy in at all from the county board in  Derry for county hurling and then they have a dual split as well.

Dunloy in the hurling and Loughgiel in the camogie just can't get the measure of Slaughtneil at all.

I actually think despite being Dunly much superior in Antrim teams like Cushendall would do better against Slaughtneil as they're more physical.

They have been trying to kill hurling in Derry for years, we have football clubs and development squads threatening lads not to play or they will be dropped from football. It is especially bad if you have lads pulling form 2 different clubs.
Slaughtneil are so far ahead of everyone else in the county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2021, 08:54:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
There isn't buy in at all from the county board in  Derry for county hurling and then they have a dual split as well.

Dunloy in the hurling and Loughgiel in the camogie just can't get the measure of Slaughtneil at all.

I actually think despite being Dunly much superior in Antrim teams like Cushendall would do better against Slaughtneil as they're more physical.

I'm not buying the physical thing anymore, they are a decent side who will give whatever team they meet in the semi final (should they not have a banana skin v Ballycran) a serious run for their money. They will go in well under the radar, regardless of the game against Ballyhale last time, they are a club team from Derry and that is how the other semi finalist will view it, stop Rodgers would be my intentions if looking to beat them. Easier said than done
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 09:00:45 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2021, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
There isn't buy in at all from the county board in  Derry for county hurling and then they have a dual split as well.

Dunloy in the hurling and Loughgiel in the camogie just can't get the measure of Slaughtneil at all.

I actually think despite being Dunly much superior in Antrim teams like Cushendall would do better against Slaughtneil as they're more physical.

They have been trying to kill hurling in Derry for years, we have football clubs and development squads threatening lads not to play or they will be dropped from football. It is especially bad if you have lads pulling form 2 different clubs.
Slaughtneil are so far ahead of everyone else in the county

Yeah you only have to look at how competitive St Pats are in the Mageean to know that Derry still has good hurling / hurlers in it if they're given the chance. It is a real shame.

I still think the physical thing a big factor MR but to just say it's physical is probably doing Slaughtneil a disservice.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 08:21:11 AM
There isn't buy in at all from the county board in  Derry for county hurling and then they have a dual split as well.

Dunloy in the hurling and Loughgiel in the camogie just can't get the measure of Slaughtneil at all.

I actually think despite being Dunly much superior in Antrim teams like Cushendall would do better against Slaughtneil as they're more physical.

Didn't get to see the game as I was taking the kids to see Santa..

is there anywhere you can watch it again?


SNeill are the real deal hurling wise and have been for quite a while and Dunloy have been getting beat by them since minor club championships back 5 odd yrs ago.
Lazy analysis just to be putting it down to physicality only, they've some fine hurlers in their midst.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
There is more to it than that I know but I do think it's something Dunloy struggle with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2021, 09:11:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
There is more to it than that I know but I do think it's something Dunloy struggle with.

Need a big Dominic McMullan type enforcer in their ranks, eh?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 09:14:09 AM
Antrim in general struggle for big physical players and it hurts a lot playing down south when you have big physical guys who can play too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2021, 09:53:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 13, 2021, 09:14:09 AM
Antrim in general struggle for big physical players and it hurts a lot playing down south when you have big physical guys who can play too.

Was speaking to some former Ballycran hurlers of yesteryear on friday night (we were giving blood  :D  ) and both felt they've a better chance against SNeill from a psychological perspective as they've beaten them before but Dunloy have given them some big beatings in the league in the last few years.

My take on Ballycran is that they do have some big, physical lads especially in their forwards but IMO don't use their size enough and maybe not prepared to take that bit of a flake to get past a defender and go for the rigging.
They play a direct enough game themselves and go long to the big lad Arthurs on the edge of the square who probably doesn't hold onto enough ball that he should but a fair bit comes off him for Egan and probably a young lad Clarke just out of minor to work from in and around that area. Gazza's two lads are good at hoovering up ball in and around the middle, both lightish though and not inclined to break tackles much.

If Ballycran are to make a shape of it then they'll need a goal or two as I don't see them having the out and out defenders to stop big Rodgers and the likes, Woods is a hurling centre back, he's not going to put a runner coming through the middle on their arse, similarly the two Ennis' are the same, stiffler might though if pushed enough. They'll need to play on the edge but not over it come Sunday but SNeill hold all the aces and if they get a run on Ballycran as expected, it could be another 7 to 10 point win for them.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 13, 2021, 10:44:45 AM
MR2-pm'd you there lad
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Strange pairing for tonight's Mageean Cup final, Red High V St Mary's
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on December 17, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Strange pairing for tonight's Mageean Cup final, Red High V St Mary's

Very strange as it's St Pat's Red High play!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 17, 2021, 02:55:31 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 17, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Strange pairing for tonight's Mageean Cup final, Red High V St Mary's

Very strange as it's St Pat's Red High play!

50/50 game IMO going by how close the last encounter was.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: barnish oggie on December 17, 2021, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Strange pairing for tonight's Mageean Cup final, Red High V St Mary's

last minute goal got red high through to the final over St Louis who will be kicking themselves with the second half performance
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on December 17, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2021, 02:27:46 PM
Strange pairing for tonight's Mageean Cup final, Red High V St Mary's

Very strange as it's St Pat's Red High play!

Yeah I'd thought I typed st Pats! Long week lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:03:44 PM
Red high win the mageean. They were down by quite a lot early on too. Good to see someone different on the winners list.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 17, 2021, 09:25:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:03:44 PM
Red high win the mageean. They were down by quite a lot early on too. Good to see someone different on the winners list.

What clubs make team up
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:39:35 PM
A load of portaferry ones, castlewellan have improved too so they have a right few and a few carryduff I think. I am sure there are others but I think portaferry and castlewellan were the main contributors. Jc would know better.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2021/12/14/news/red-high-s-date-with-destiny-has-been-decades-in-the-making-2534658/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2021/12/14/news/red-high-s-date-with-destiny-has-been-decades-in-the-making-2534658/)

The picture has the club tops. I wouldn't know a few of the club tops tbh but looks like portaferry, castlewellan, a ballycran one or two, maybe a ballygalget one or two, a carryduff one then a few others.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 17, 2021, 09:53:52 PM
Very good,Derry pulling from far more clubs

Lynches, Lavey , swa, Slaughtneil, screen, Creggan , Banagher
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:56:40 PM
St pats Maghreb seems to have a big catchment area.near the whole county bar the city.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 17, 2021, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:56:40 PM
St pats Maghreb seems to have a big catchment area.near the whole county bar the city.

Everywhere South of Feeney
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: North Man on December 17, 2021, 10:41:54 PM
Bus from Park Village now going to Maghera
Starting to hit St Columbs rural catchment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 17, 2021, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: North Man on December 17, 2021, 10:41:54 PM
Bus from Park Village now going to Maghera
Starting to hit St Columbs rural catchment

Claudy,craigbane, park , Feeney were always st Columbs for grammar or St Pat's Dungiven or Claudy for secondary.
If there was no border city's natural hinterland in Inishowen but. Them lads going to Maghera now to play sport

St columbs vused to get wile pile Strabane,aughabrack and Dungiven too
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 19, 2021, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 17, 2021, 09:39:35 PM
A load of portaferry ones, castlewellan have improved too so they have a right few and a few carryduff I think. I am sure there are others but I think portaferry and castlewellan were the main contributors. Jc would know better.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2021/12/14/news/red-high-s-date-with-destiny-has-been-decades-in-the-making-2534658/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2021/12/14/news/red-high-s-date-with-destiny-has-been-decades-in-the-making-2534658/)

The picture has the club tops. I wouldn't know a few of the club tops tbh but looks like portaferry, castlewellan, a ballycran one or two, maybe a ballygalget one or two, a carryduff one then a few others.

Half the team would be from Portaferry, we've three on the team and so would the Liatroim/Castlewellan amalgamation that would be very competitive @U17 in Down the last few years. Ballycran had one starter, a smashing wee hurler who's still 5th YR. Red high were greatly assisted this by a few lads going there from St Columba's to do A levels as St Columba's don't do A levels. The lad who got MOTM on friday night would be one of them. He'll be available next year.

As to the game, it reaffirmed my hatred of 130M pitches.. Far too bloody small for anything above U15..

The game was stop, starty with very little actual passages of play, lads taking shots from well in their own half which leads to bunching at both ends of the pitch, both teams hit some terrible wides throughout the night with the Red High probably being the worse of the two.
The decisive goal was a keeping error but under lights with a big lad (Rossa blood in him) flailing at it just in his eyesight can't have been easy for the Maghera keeper.
MR2 may have an opinion on this as he was doing the line but the ref really could have played a bit more of the advantage rule. Colm only really played it when a score was obviously denied or not availed off, he didn't seem to give it when a defender was fouled but had either broken the tackle/foul and got clear or had layed it off to a teammate and right on the blow a maghera midfielder had been clearly fouled by the RH centre back but had managed to feed it off to the maghera centre forward who'd clear ground in front of him 40 metres out, Maghera were needing a goal at this stage but were denied the chance to drive on for it..to compound matters they missed the free.
Small things in all

As for the red high, I think they play the Munster champions in January so best of luck to them on that and for Down hurling in general I think they could be competitive at this level for a while longer and so could Knock if they got their finger out as IMO they should be better equipped than the red high next year and the year after that based on the players they have at their disposal from ourselves and Bredagh in particular.


Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 19, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
Oh and best of luck to Ballycran today..

Conor Woods is talking the talk about physicality like I said, but talking don't buy beer as the saying goes. Time to bring it, take your belts and drive on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
The cub playing for u20 hurlers today at Dunsilly against queens. Good team our u20s, lack a few physically big lads though, why do we have so many small players in Antrim?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 10:33:57 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
The cub playing for u20 hurlers today at Dunsilly against queens. Good team our u20s, lack a few physically big lads though, why do we have so many small players in Antrim?

It's under 20, noticed the difference at minor also, a lot slighter in comparison to under 18/21

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:02:37 PM
Yep agree MR but when you head south teams seem to be filled with monsters of young men
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:02:37 PM
Yep agree MR but when you head south teams seem to be filled with monsters of young men

That's true also, Ballycastle lads were always big in my memory, St John's always had big lads at juvenile but again we can look at how schools develop players, for example you look at the top Mc Rory cup teams, they are training properlystrength and conditioning, the likes of St Kierans are doing similar stuff, you only have to look at what Methody and Inst do at school cup level. No Belfast schools or north Antrim schools at Magean final this year.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
St. Louis had Gaelfast coach with them this year doings&c, lads seemed to buy into it well, think it is a pilot scheme




Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
St. Louis had Gaelfast coach with them this year doings&c, lads seemed to buy into it well, think it is a pilot scheme

The schools rugby teams have been doing that stuff over 20 years, we are well behind that level of conditioning
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
St. Louis had Gaelfast coach with them this year doings&c, lads seemed to buy into it well, think it is a pilot scheme

The schools rugby teams have been doing that stuff over 20 years, we are well behind that level of conditioning

Absolutely correct, but it at least seems to have registered with someone and being addressed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on December 29, 2021, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
St. Louis had Gaelfast coach with them this year doings&c, lads seemed to buy into it well, think it is a pilot scheme

The schools rugby teams have been doing that stuff over 20 years, we are well behind that level of conditioning

I wouldn't be holding up some of the stuff that happens at some rugby schools as a benchmark for GAA clubs, schools to follow from some of the horror stories I've heard about kids "encouraged" to take suppliments if they weren't hitting certain targets...
S@C has its place but hurling is a skilled based game with physical collisions, not a collision based game with a bit of skill .

A few summers on the building sites tightened manys a young man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2021, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 29, 2021, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2021, 11:50:49 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on December 28, 2021, 11:27:37 PM
St. Louis had Gaelfast coach with them this year doings&c, lads seemed to buy into it well, think it is a pilot scheme

The schools rugby teams have been doing that stuff over 20 years, we are well behind that level of conditioning

I wouldn't be holding up some of the stuff that happens at some rugby schools as a benchmark for GAA clubs, schools to follow from some of the horror stories I've heard about kids "encouraged" to take suppliments if they weren't hitting certain targets...
S@C has its place but hurling is a skilled based game with physical collisions, not a collision based game with a bit of skill .

A few summers on the building sites tightened manys a young man

You tailor the S&C to suit the sport, my use of those schools is about how they professionally approach games and have been doing so for many years.

I wouldn't be saying it's ok to use illegal supplements, but there are plenty protein types supplements that are legal.

The McRory cup teams have a great approach too. The gym at my daughters school was newly built recently, amazing set up, we didn't even have a pitch at my school, never mind weights lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 02, 2022, 08:34:52 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2022/01/02/bobby-mcmullan-rip/

A fantastic tribute to one of Antrims finest ever hurlers. Held the mighty Christy Ring scoreless from play when in his pomp.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2022, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 02, 2022, 08:34:52 PM
https://thesaffrongael.com/2022/01/02/bobby-mcmullan-rip/

A fantastic tribute to one of Antrims finest ever hurlers. Held the mighty Christy Ring scoreless from play when in his pomp.

Lovely guy, patient of mine and we'd plenty hurling chat, knew he wasn't well recently, will be sadly missed I'm sure by his family and his wider Glenarrife/Loughgiel GAA family

Rip Bobby
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: antrimman667 on January 03, 2022, 04:51:36 PM
Any new additions to The senior Panel this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on January 04, 2022, 09:45:49 PM
Anyone out tonight at  match v UUJ  ?
From what I can gather it was the U20 squad minus any of their  Uni players .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 04, 2022, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on January 04, 2022, 09:45:49 PM
Anyone out tonight at  match v UUJ  ?
From what I can gather it was the U20 squad minus any of their  Uni players .

Yep it was the u20 team. Still trying to get warmed up here, absolutely Baltic! Not a night you could judge anything on tbh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2022, 02:14:16 PM
Sambo on Laochra Gael. I think it is maybe tonight.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 06, 2022, 03:34:44 PM
Starts next week I think, the 13th. Should be good, always enjoy that show.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2022, 04:00:55 PM
Making it an hour long has made a massive difference to it. Always look forward to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 06, 2022, 06:49:13 PM
Sambo a great operator no doubt, and character to go with it.  But ...not even sure if he was the best hurler in his house lol.

His older brother was some act. Shane....went to Australia when he was 18 I think but was supreme in his age group and already the main man for Cushendall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 08, 2022, 11:29:35 PM
was it donegal senior team? If so yes
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.

Yes, disrespectful to Donegal. Stick to football thread please
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 08, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
It would have been a seasoned men's team who have 5 lads in from other counties against wains.

Richie Ryan scored 2-10. From Limerick, big man.

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/sport/717228/mccann-hails-strongest-ever-donegal-panel-after-whirlwind-win-over-antrim-u-20s.html
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 09, 2022, 12:35:25 AM
Was at the game, Donegal seniors a decent hurling team, we struggled with size and physicality they brought, particularly from our puck out . Better than a training session, and mgt know now who has the grit and physicality they will need to compete in Leinster championship
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on January 09, 2022, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.

Yes, disrespectful to Donegal. Stick to football thread please
For someone who runs about getting people banned you are not very welcoming, no class, as for your refereeing
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2022, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 09, 2022, 08:52:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.

Yes, disrespectful to Donegal. Stick to football thread please
For someone who runs about getting people banned you are not very welcoming, no class, as for your refereeing

No class?

Did you read your post?

And what's my refereeing got to do with your post putting down Donegal hurling?

Like I said, stick to the football.

As for getting people banned, that clampit did that all by himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2022, 10:55:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

At club level this year alone we'd no winners of provincial championships, didn't get to the semifinals in the lower championships and beat handy in senior.

Under20 is young, even college hurling is older again, Donegal ain't bad, disappointing but not shocked.

Tipp thought they would throw out a second string v Kerry, got their asses handed to them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 09, 2022, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

Why would you just expect that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

Cloud cuckoo land yous boys living in.  Derry struggled to beat this team last year ,won by point in the end
Donegal are 4th strongest in Ulster now easily .

They have really good homegrown hurlers plus boys from Tyrone, Armagh, Clare, Galway, Antrim and Limerick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 11:49:53 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

Cloud cuckoo land yous boys living in.  Derry struggled to beat this team last year ,won by point in the end
Donegal are 4th strongest in Ulster now easily .

They have really good homegrown hurlers plus boys from Tyrone, Armagh, Clare, Galway, Antrim and Limerick

Plus Tipperary. Didn't think they had anybody from Antrim though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 11:49:53 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

Cloud cuckoo land yous boys living in.  Derry struggled to beat this team last year ,won by point in the end
Donegal are 4th strongest in Ulster now easily .

They have really good homegrown hurlers plus boys from Tyrone, Armagh, Clare, Galway, Antrim and Limerick

Plus Tipperary. Didn't think they had anybody from Antrim though.

sorry you are correct I thought they had the setanta keeper (belfast) in nets
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on January 09, 2022, 12:18:14 PM
It is apparent that they used McGurk this year to give run out to U20s in prep for championship later on. The only issue there is that team is weakened by Uni's being able to select eligible county players. Possibly 6-8 missing and maybe more.
I also heard there were some injuries(Bicky and Rian) and some mnssing due to isolation weaking group even further.
Of the starting 15 , 3 of the boys were last years Minors so probably still not 18.
Is that the best way to proceed I'm not sure as we all know you can have all the skill but boys against men is different.
If we have yearly Dev  squads what has happened to Minor team and Celtic challenge teams / players  from those age groups.
We are way short in strength and physicality  to be honest we might struggle to get out of Ulster.
You need a balance between man strength and underlying skill.
No easy answers and in reality probably only 2-3 of this group will end up Senior county players
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 11:49:53 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 11:41:29 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 09, 2022, 10:43:28 AM
I was a wee bit shocked myself when I saw the result. Would expect an Antrim U-20 team to be beating a weaker Ulster counties senior team.

Cloud cuckoo land yous boys living in.  Derry struggled to beat this team last year ,won by point in the end
Donegal are 4th strongest in Ulster now easily .

They have really good homegrown hurlers plus boys from Tyrone, Armagh, Clare, Galway, Antrim and Limerick

Plus Tipperary. Didn't think they had anybody from Antrim though.

sorry you are correct I thought they had the setanta keeper (belfast) in nets

Actually thought it was him from the pictures on Saffron Gael.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 09, 2022, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on January 09, 2022, 12:18:14 PM
It is apparent that they used McGurk this year to give run out to U20s in prep for championship later on. The only issue there is that team is weakened by Uni's being able to select eligible county players. Possibly 6-8 missing and maybe more.
I also heard there were some injuries(Bicky and Rian) and some mnssing due to isolation weaking group even further.
Of the starting 15 , 3 of the boys were last years Minors so probably still not 18.
Is that the best way to proceed I'm not sure as we all know you can have all the skill but boys against men is different.
If we have yearly Dev  squads what has happened to Minor team and Celtic challenge teams / players  from those age groups.
We are way short in strength and physicality  to be honest we might struggle to get out of Ulster.
You need a balance between man strength and underlying skill.
No easy answers and in reality probably only 2-3 of this group will end up Senior county players

Donegal uni players choose county there yesterday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on January 09, 2022, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.

Yes, disrespectful to Donegal. Stick to football thread please

I wasn't putting Donegal hurling down, quite the opposite I was putting Antrim hurling down. Just because I am not from a hurling club doesn't mean I can't have an opinion o  it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2022, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 09, 2022, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2022, 11:32:16 PM
Quote from: rogercasement on January 08, 2022, 10:46:14 PM
Should Antrim u20s minus a few be losing so heavily to Donegal? Genuine question, don't know the circumstances but seems strange. If I'm being disrespectful to Donegal I apologise.

Yes, disrespectful to Donegal. Stick to football thread please

I wasn't putting Donegal hurling down, quite the opposite I was putting Antrim hurling down. Just because I am not from a hurling club doesn't mean I can't have an opinion o  it.

I've read your opinions on things, young lads lacking fortitude, on referees, even your predictions on games during the year, so forgive me poop poohing your take on the under 20 hurling team playing a seasoned senior hurling county team.

Why a grown man would take cheap shots at young lads is beyond me!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on January 09, 2022, 03:22:11 PM
You really are some boy MR2 how you figure half that stuff out is beyond me.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 10, 2022, 09:58:00 AM
would think antrim u20s lost alot of their last year players to uu and queens
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2022, 02:20:32 PM
Only reason the u20s being pressed into action is the number of absentees from the senior squad currently from what I have been told.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on January 10, 2022, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Same thought struck me. Some of these guys are way too light for this. In fairness it may be that a lot of the u20s are elsewhere due to combination of the antrim senior squad being light (don't think any of the Dunloy lads started yesterday) and perhaps others playing for UU or QUB.  It may also be general apathy towards this age group.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2022, 07:29:04 PM
Sambo on laochra gael tonight at 9.30
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 13, 2022, 10:55:37 PM
I feel a Brendan Crossan special coming on.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on January 13, 2022, 11:49:07 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2022, 10:55:37 PM
I feel a Brendan Crossan special coming on.

Lol cert

Who is Antrim's best ever hurler?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 07:44:03 AM
My da says Eddie Donnelly. Hard to say. Mckillen, o'kane, sambo and boys like that great too.

Oh yeah McManus I am sure up there too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on January 14, 2022, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 13, 2022, 10:55:37 PM
I feel a Brendan Crossan special coming on.

Lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 14, 2022, 07:58:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 07:44:03 AM
My da says Eddie Donnelly. Hard to say. Mckillen, o'kane, sambo and boys like that great too.

Oh yeah McManus I am sure up there too.

I would say if we were compiling a top ten of Antrim hurlers (club or county) over the years Sambo would struggle to make the top ten.

Biggest profiles do not always match up to the best hurlers.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on January 14, 2022, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 07:44:03 AM
My da says Eddie Donnelly. Hard to say. Mckillen, o'kane, sambo and boys like that great too.

Oh yeah McManus I am sure up there too.

Cloot for me, Leonard McKeegan not far behind. Neither courted publicity like Sambo though so I would say Leonard McKeegan for example would be almost unknown in the south
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 08:29:49 AM
James McNaughton up there too. Yes Cloot as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2022, 08:48:28 AM
Most valuable players to the county in their generations - Eddie Donnelly, Ciaran Barr, Neil Mc Manus.

Olcan was everyone's favourite - so classy, so modest, and of course Paul McKillen too. Would have to say that would be my top 5.

Best club line of all time...
James Sambo and Leonard.
imo...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2022, 09:02:52 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 14, 2022, 08:48:28 AM
Most valuable players to the county in their generations - Eddie Donnelly, Ciaran Barr, Neil Mc Manus.

Olcan was everyone's favourite - so classy, so modest, and of course Paul McKillen too. Would have to say that would be my top 5.

Best club line of all time...
James Sambo and Leonard.
imo...

Olcan for me, probably because of that period, but also as a player he never had any airs and graces, unmarkable as a player, we tried double teaming him in games but he was like a magician, Eddie up there also, was lucky in the early days that Eddie trained with us on a Thursday night in Belfast, he was well into his 40's Id say but the speed and coordination was something else, so he's a close second
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
Barr first all star and was a good one. Some strength in him. Dessie Donnelly not too shabby either.

I saw a comment on it on facebook which i thought was fair. Nelson was fantastic and deserves immense credit but they probably should have mentioned Sean McGuinness too as he laid a very good platform.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 14, 2022, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 14, 2022, 09:06:51 AM
Barr first all star and was a good one. Some strength in him. Dessie Donnelly not too shabby either.

I saw a comment on it on facebook which i thought was fair. Nelson was fantastic and deserves immense credit but they probably should have mentioned Sean McGuinness too as he laid a very good platform.

Big Sean would still have been with Antrim through most of the late 80's and 90's but for the row within Sarsfields which he believed the CB washed their hands off, hence why he stepped down and was my own counties gain.

As for Sambo, he was one strong, effective hurler with a great touch and a better hand on him and whilst not blessed with pace took the shortest route to get passed you, more often than not it was over you.. I've been there as a young lad and one experience up in the dall i can barely remember as i think he knocked me out for a short while under a dropping ball and his elbow caught me flush on the jaw. The next thing i remember was getting up after he'd scored a goal.
My Da had great time for him and used to block up the main street in Kircubbin with his bus if he'd saw Sambo delivering kegs to the Village Inn for a chat.

Not sure if he courts publicity and i've listened to him on a few radio interviews on RTE talking about hurling in Antrim and Ulster in general and more often than not he's bang on the money. He was once asked whether a Brian Cody type figure would help Antrim hurling and his response to it was that "we don't need a Brian Cody, we need a Ned Quinn".

I'll get round to watching him on the RTE player sometime this weekend..



Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: JimStynes on January 14, 2022, 09:46:56 AM
Did McFetridge not only play for a handful of years due to injuries? Boys like Sambo played for a life time.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on January 14, 2022, 10:07:42 AM
Best I've saw play for Antrim, Leonard McKeegan or Beaver.

Watson gets a mention but attitude let's him down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: barnish oggie on January 14, 2022, 11:44:47 AM
Cloot was my first ever sporting hero so he gets it for me.

As Sambo said, he was a magician with a hurl and a great character.

Both goals v Offaly in 89 were testaments to what he could do.

Other notable mentions have to go to Dessie Donnelly, James McNaughton, Paul McKillen, Neil McManus And Liam Watson who could have been right at the top if the attitude was better.

Not old enough to have seen Eddie Donnelly or Danny McNaughton but heard a lot of great things about them so likely they should be in that company as well.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 14, 2022, 12:12:40 PM
Watched Sambo on tg4 last night, very touching and thought provoking on the educational system back then. At least we have moved on from those dark days. One depressing aspect was the reality check of where we belong on the hurling spectrum something Terence eluded to. The program rekindled the hype and euphoria in Antrim and Ulster that team brought. Never thought that winding forward over 30 years later we still haven't reached another final, still it was great viewing and well worth a watch.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on January 15, 2022, 10:14:39 AM
Just watched the Loachra Gael there. A fantastic hour, possibly one of the very best episodes ever! Brings back many great personal memories of that team, of that time. It's only realistic to say we won't ever get that opportunity again in most of our lifetimes. Buses from all over the county travelling to places like Thurles or Ballinrobe for hurling league games around the country, everyone proud to be Antrim.

Bringing wee John into the mix at the end of the programme was a touch of class too. One for the archives.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 17, 2022, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 15, 2022, 10:14:39 AM
Just watched the Loachra Gael there. A fantastic hour, possibly one of the very best episodes ever! Brings back many great personal memories of that team, of that time. It's only realistic to say we won't ever get that opportunity again in most of our lifetimes. Buses from all over the county travelling to places like Thurles or Ballinrobe for hurling league games around the country, everyone proud to be Antrim.

Bringing wee John into the mix at the end of the programme was a touch of class too. One for the archives.

That was hard watching but fair play to him baring his soul like that. No doubt he'd a lot of personal battles along the way and he didn't shy away from them.

It has to be said that both Antrim and Down were playing in Div1 NHL at that time, IIRC there were two groups of 6 in Div1 but both were holding their own and as he pointed out Antrim really had Kilkenny on the rack that day down in Dundalk in an AI semi-final. I remember my dad taking me to it, hot sunny day with a big crowd at it.
Antrim weren't far off it back then and whilst that team did fall off it was because Down were pushing them and then Derry got their house in order and were also making the Ulster Championship competitive. Antrims straight run at an AI semi-final was now under pressure.

Looking back at it now, they were probably the golden years of Ulster hurling.

Once the Ulster championship was sidelined by Croke Park into intially an AI quarter final position and then ultimately a stand alone competition on the introduction of the Christy Ring and the likes was the demise of it as being a competition that held any meaning which is sad in a way but at the end the Ulster Council were rushing it through at any time they could squeeze it in and that served nobody.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 19, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

We're looking to get a minor team in as well..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 19, 2022, 03:03:41 PM
Because nobody likes travelling to us in Derry City for example-thats the issue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 08:36:41 AM
Slaughtneil wouldn't be the same beast in the league as the championship - too many football matches and I don't know how they'd coordinate them. I suppose this applies to Bredagh and Carryduff too mind you but I don't know how dual clubs work with clashes in dual fixtures with their own counties. Not an issue for the ards clubs or some others.

Is someone saying it's going to be an antrim only league? What happens the clubs outside antrim currently in the leagues or am I reading that wrong? If not that'd be a terrible idea...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 08:36:41 AM
Slaughtneil wouldn't be the same beast in the league as the championship - too many football matches and I don't know how they'd coordinate them. I suppose this applies to Bredagh and Carryduff too mind you but I don't know how dual clubs work with clashes in dual fixtures with their own counties. Not an issue for the ards clubs or some others.

Is someone saying it's going to be an antrim only league? What happens the clubs outside antrim currently in the leagues or am I reading that wrong? If not that'd be a terrible idea...

Antrim wont work for Derry dual players. Our football is Sunday and your hurling is Sunday
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 10:45:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 20, 2022, 08:36:41 AM
Slaughtneil wouldn't be the same beast in the league as the championship - too many football matches and I don't know how they'd coordinate them. I suppose this applies to Bredagh and Carryduff too mind you but I don't know how dual clubs work with clashes in dual fixtures with their own counties. Not an issue for the ards clubs or some others.

Is someone saying it's going to be an antrim only league? What happens the clubs outside antrim currently in the leagues or am I reading that wrong? If not that'd be a terrible idea...

Antrim wont work for Derry dual players. Our football is Sunday and your hurling is Sunday

Yeah and then there's county players on top of it. I was thinking that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2022, 12:42:15 PM
Other players coming in will only drive hurling on, from what I watched Donegal hurled well and did enough to win the game but came undone in the end.

Players need to be pushed for places and you can only do that with numbers and quality coming in, otherwise its the same old same old shit, if I'm not being pushed I'll just do what I need
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2022, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.
What age would Decky Coulter be? 35ish? Some player for Armagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2022, 02:05:38 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.
What age would Decky Coulter be? 35ish? Some player for Armagh.

Aye, about 34/35. 
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.

Oh you do. We had Donegal lads playing with us as their closest club by far-(they wanted to play club with us and county with DL) and them hoors in Burt and Setanta wanted us pulled over ulster council coals-even though they both had boys from other counties playing with them. Gilmore has a DL address(might have moved now but wasnt at start), Gartland lives in Derry City(formerly Na Magha)-facts, concrete facts.

Donegal hurling board are twisted hoors

6 Strabane went to Setanta all at the exact same time, strange that.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.

Oh you do. We had Donegal lads playing with us as their closest club by far-(they wanted to play club with us and county with DL) and them hoors in Burt and Setanta wanted us pulled over ulster council coals-even though they both had boys from other counties playing with them. Gilmore has a DL address(might have moved now but wasnt at start), Gartland lives in Derry City(formerly Na Magha)-facts, concrete facts.

Donegal hurling board are twisted hoors

6 Strabane went to Setanta all at the exact same time, strange that.

I suppose with the like of Gilmore, there is no club within 20 miles of his house in Tyrone therefore Setanta would be the logical choice and unlikely to be any contention with that move. Him and other Strabane players went together as their senior team folded and still haven't came back.  Gilmore would have always had a Donegal address too as his family are from Raphoe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 20, 2022, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 20, 2022, 09:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 10, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: Cannon Fodder on January 09, 2022, 07:55:05 PM
U20 team was physically pushed about by the more mature Donegal team. 6 starters yesterday were U18 so a bit on the light side yet for senior hurling. Donegal the better team on a wet Dunsilly pitch.

Remember this is not U20 v U20

This.

A county the size of Antrim really shouldn't be playing lads with three years left this level. Where's all the U19's and U20's that have went through the various development squads?

FWIW Donegal are a handy team full of good big hurlers so playing Antrim U20's in the middle of January on a heavy pitch and beating them isn't a surprise and if anything Antrim U20's could be better off for it.

Thought they done well to score what they did , they will have learnt more than Donegal

Down just about beat Donegal last night in the final, the bit I watched Donegal were 7 points to the good with 10 minutes to go and were good value for it.

Marky Fisher must have pulled Down out of a hole there with a smashing point from the sideline and a goal from a 20 metre free, hope the wee bollox gets fitter than he was last year

Down done well with 14 men. donegal played as if it was champo final. As i ahve said before this is no reflection of Donegal underage(even though they now have more clubs than Derry) as they had 7 outside men starting

White-Wexford
O'Donaghue-I think Galway
Gartland-Derry City
Gilmore-Tyrone
McGee-down the country
Ryan-Limerick
Flynn-Tipp

Few more to come in an don bench

Guards?

few teachers, couple northern lads with dodge addresses to play for DL clubs.

I believe McGee is local.  Throw in Coulter (Armagh) and Cleary (Offaly) who are also usually involved.

Gilmore plays for them as they are the closest club to him, probably doesn't need a dodgy address.

Oh you do. We had Donegal lads playing with us as their closest club by far-(they wanted to play club with us and county with DL) and them hoors in Burt and Setanta wanted us pulled over ulster council coals-even though they both had boys from other counties playing with them. Gilmore has a DL address(might have moved now but wasnt at start), Gartland lives in Derry City(formerly Na Magha)-facts, concrete facts.

Donegal hurling board are twisted hoors

6 Strabane went to Setanta all at the exact same time, strange that.

I suppose with the like of Gilmore, there is no club within 20 miles of his house in Tyrone therefore Setanta would be the logical choice and unlikely to be any contention with that move. Him and other Strabane players went together as their senior team folded and still haven't came back.  Gilmore would have always had a Donegal address too as his family are from Raphoe.

Yeah I've no issue with that , it is the double standards .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 21, 2022, 09:48:48 AM
Pretty simple when it comes to allowing external teams into the Antrim leagues.

The Co Down teams are single code clubs, so there is no issue with clashing or looking for fixtures to be moved. Being frank the 3 teams when they are all in the top league are amongst the best at fulfilling fixtures.

This would not be the case with the Derry sides, they are in the main dual clubs with a serious focus on the football side of things which adds another dimension or issue to the mix. This may be able to be worked around but it would be a challenge.

To be fair the top league if all teams would compete on their merit should be a seriously competitive league as it stands.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Outside teams have been coming into Antrim leagues at all levels for years. 3 down teams, Dungiven and the rest of the Derry teams, Armagh teams applied a lot of years back but nothing came off that. They have played numerous competitions at juvenile level, thanks to NA, against NE. The 3 down teams have all, at some stage, played in Div 2 against NE, Johnneycool would be able to fill you in on when this first took place. CMcC would have seen the input outside clubs have had on the Antrim teams, they have boosted the competition standards for years. Given he never leaves NE, he must be up there every day of the week, he has seen this at first hand. It doesn't take you to have played against outside teams to see their benefit.

As for looking stupid, is that the best you can do? I am really busy today and don't really have time for going backwards and forwards with you, you seem to have an opinion, fully entitled to it, you're welcome to it, I just don't agree with it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Outside teams have been coming into Antrim leagues at all levels for years. 3 down teams, Dungiven and the rest of the Derry teams, Armagh teams applied a lot of years back but nothing came off that. They have played numerous competitions at juvenile level, thanks to NA, against NE. The 3 down teams have all, at some stage, played in Div 2 against NE, Johnneycool would be able to fill you in on when this first took place. CMcC would have seen the input outside clubs have had on the Antrim teams, they have boosted the competition standards for years. Given he never leaves NE, he must be up there every day of the week, he has seen this at first hand. It doesn't take you to have played against outside teams to see their benefit.

As for looking stupid, is that the best you can do? I am really busy today and don't really have time for going backwards and forwards with you, you seem to have an opinion, fully entitled to it, you're welcome to it, I just don't agree with it.

Happy to leave it at that- you've your opinion and I mine. My replies are in response to your suggestion that I was berating lower league players- or people that haven't won something- which isn't the case.
Armagh teams- Cuchullians & Sean Tracey's have been in our leagues for a while at their respective levels.
Think Naomh Eanna enjoyed one year- possibly 2 at Div 2 in recent years before pushing on into Div 1 and I'd say any player within this team will understand the benefits of having the external teams.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: nrico2006 on January 21, 2022, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Outside teams have been coming into Antrim leagues at all levels for years. 3 down teams, Dungiven and the rest of the Derry teams, Armagh teams applied a lot of years back but nothing came off that. They have played numerous competitions at juvenile level, thanks to NA, against NE. The 3 down teams have all, at some stage, played in Div 2 against NE, Johnneycool would be able to fill you in on when this first took place. CMcC would have seen the input outside clubs have had on the Antrim teams, they have boosted the competition standards for years. Given he never leaves NE, he must be up there every day of the week, he has seen this at first hand. It doesn't take you to have played against outside teams to see their benefit.

As for looking stupid, is that the best you can do? I am really busy today and don't really have time for going backwards and forwards with you, you seem to have an opinion, fully entitled to it, you're welcome to it, I just don't agree with it.

Happy to leave it at that- you've your opinion and I mine. My replies are in response to your suggestion that I was berating lower league players- or people that haven't won something- which isn't the case.
Armagh teams- Cuchullians & Sean Tracey's have been in our leagues for a while at their respective levels.
Think Naomh Eanna enjoyed one year- possibly 2 at Div 2 in recent years before pushing on into Div 1 and I'd say any player within this team will understand the benefits of having the external teams.

Over the years there have been Derry teams in the leagues, think Na Magha were there for a while.  Tyrone teams have also been in there, with Colmcille being in there for a few seasons and maybe Dungannon too.  Strabane also got in, but had to play all their games away.  Sean Treacys from Armagh were in about ten years ago, and they were also then in the South Antrim league a few years back.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on January 21, 2022, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Outside teams have been coming into Antrim leagues at all levels for years. 3 down teams, Dungiven and the rest of the Derry teams, Armagh teams applied a lot of years back but nothing came off that. They have played numerous competitions at juvenile level, thanks to NA, against NE. The 3 down teams have all, at some stage, played in Div 2 against NE, Johnneycool would be able to fill you in on when this first took place. CMcC would have seen the input outside clubs have had on the Antrim teams, they have boosted the competition standards for years. Given he never leaves NE, he must be up there every day of the week, he has seen this at first hand. It doesn't take you to have played against outside teams to see their benefit.

As for looking stupid, is that the best you can do? I am really busy today and don't really have time for going backwards and forwards with you, you seem to have an opinion, fully entitled to it, you're welcome to it, I just don't agree with it.

Not sure what I'm being asked here but yes we've played in Div2 several times in our time in Antrim leagues, I played in Div2 once in my time but don't remember playing NE (St Enda's I presume).

FWIW NE have come on leaps and bounds and are rightly in Div1 IMO.

We're still Work In Progress at the minute and not as competitive in Div1 as we want to be hence we want our U17's exposure in Antrim as well and have done the last few years pre Covid as it's a better standard that playing the same teams week in, week out in Down.

I haven't been involved in the financial side of things for a while in the club but we used to pay league fees for the adult teams back in the day and I'm assuming we probably still do.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Dreen on January 22, 2022, 11:59:52 PM
that can't be lead by the county board
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on January 23, 2022, 02:10:54 PM
Slaughtneil are hurling like their lives depend on it. Got off to a bad start but have been the better team since. Both teams playing with a sweeper but Slaughtneil forwards have been outstanding Some fantastic catches. Hopefully the fear of loosing will drive them on to victory. Brendan Rodgers should run at that full back line their dodgy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Run the County board like a business to generate sufficient income to cover all your overheads without taking it out of clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on January 23, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Run the County board like a business to generate sufficient income to cover all your overheads without taking it out of clubs.

This request wasnt sanctioned  by county board.
100 % Fit and proper governance.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 24, 2022, 03:12:51 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 23, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Run the County board like a business to generate sufficient income to cover all your overheads without taking it out of clubs.

This request wasnt sanctioned  by county board.
100 % Fit and proper governance.

According to the management; Director of Hurling was well aware it was due to happen, who then changed his mind as clubs kicked up stink...
Don't necessarily agree with asking clubs when we already pay a levy, but (again, according to management) the DOH was chopping away at the proposed monetary plans including the team bonding weekend. Money must be managed so we don't go bankrupt, but I'd hope there's been enough income being generated with sponsorships, championships/streams, SBF & ONeills kickbacks to allow a minor team the chance to run properly.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2022, 08:56:21 AM
So I take it that the county set up from under 14 (old term) up can avail of £100 from the clubs, in both codes?

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on January 24, 2022, 09:23:45 AM
It's these solo runs that need to be cut out.

A manager comes in at the beginning of the year with a plan and a budget to match. Both are then agreed.
If they deviate from this plan then it needs approval from the Co Board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on January 24, 2022, 01:35:52 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 24, 2022, 03:12:51 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 23, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Run the County board like a business to generate sufficient income to cover all your overheads without taking it out of clubs.

This request wasnt sanctioned  by county board.
100 % Fit and proper governance.

According to the management; Director of Hurling was well aware it was due to happen, who then changed his mind as clubs kicked up stink...
Don't necessarily agree with asking clubs when we already pay a levy, but (again, according to management) the DOH was chopping away at the proposed monetary plans including the team bonding weekend. Money must be managed so we don't go bankrupt, but I'd hope there's been enough income being generated with sponsorships, championships/streams, SBF & ONeills kickbacks to allow a minor team the chance to run properly.

What was the total cost of the training weekend do you know?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Ciall on January 24, 2022, 05:46:40 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 24, 2022, 01:35:52 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 24, 2022, 03:12:51 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 23, 2022, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2022, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2022, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 22, 2022, 09:57:04 PM
Antrim u-17 management team having to beg £100 per club in Antrim. Same old Antrim ?

What's the normal process for funding?
Run the County board like a business to generate sufficient income to cover all your overheads without taking it out of clubs.

This request wasnt sanctioned  by county board.
100 % Fit and proper governance.

According to the management; Director of Hurling was well aware it was due to happen, who then changed his mind as clubs kicked up stink...
Don't necessarily agree with asking clubs when we already pay a levy, but (again, according to management) the DOH was chopping away at the proposed monetary plans including the team bonding weekend. Money must be managed so we don't go bankrupt, but I'd hope there's been enough income being generated with sponsorships, championships/streams, SBF & ONeills kickbacks to allow a minor team the chance to run properly.

What was the total cost of the training weekend do you know?

Not 100% certain, Think I remember 5k being thrown about. Was due to include an overnight stay in Tipp with a game or special guest session, then across next day to have a game in Kilkenny & watch the senior hurlers in League. Again, don't quote me on the total cost.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on January 26, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
Just read that BBC will be streaming Antrim game against Dublin in league
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/60138856
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Early soundings are that we're not getting the U17's into the Antrim leagues which is disappointing to say the least.

Turns out CMcC rules the roost with an iron rod and gets his way!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2022, 09:03:51 AM
That's disappointing JC.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Last Man on February 01, 2022, 09:27:40 AM
One thing you have to understand about the man is that he doesn't do procrastination. In my experience he always consults and trys to achieve concensus but he will not wait for the perfect solution as he will always look to box an issue off and move on. Whats wrong with that?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 01, 2022, 09:30:18 AM
What is the downside for Antrim hurling by letting teams from adjacent counties join the league structure?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 01, 2022, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 08:55:12 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 21, 2022, 09:53:33 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 21, 2022, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 20, 2022, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on January 20, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 02:36:57 PM
Quote from: Ciall on January 19, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on January 19, 2022, 09:06:28 AM
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! There's a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be "kept in." Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
I'd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know he's chair and puts a fair amount of time into it I'm sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? I'd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didn't ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point I'm making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, it'll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If he's willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them he'd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasn't, and shouldn't be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didn't allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then you'd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- you're not reading what I'm asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldn't have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Early soundings are that we're not getting the U17's into the Antrim leagues which is disappointing to say the least.

Turns out CMcC rules the roost with an iron rod and gets his way!

He's all ego
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 01, 2022, 09:27:40 AM
One thing you have to understand about the man is that he doesn't do procrastination. In my experience he always consults and trys to achieve concensus but he will not wait for the perfect solution as he will always look to box an issue off and move on. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that as long as your consultations take in a wide spread of opinions.

i have it from one source that one of his lieutenants believed there is value in allowing outside teams into the Antrim leagues to raise the standards but was shot down as no Antrim club team won an Ulster title this year, so why should Antrim develop these other teams??

SN don't have a team in the senior leagues but if they did it would certainly make it a lot more interesting.

Not sure about Banagher.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2022, 11:03:45 AM
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 01, 2022, 11:03:45 AM
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.

There's certainly a whiff of, you're welcome to come and play with us providing you don't start beating us alright which is counter productive as you point out.

From our perspective it's a blow alright but we'll have to work round it but friendlies are nowhere near as useful as a meaningful league game..

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 01, 2022, 01:01:29 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 01, 2022, 11:03:45 AM
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.

There's certainly a whiff of, you're welcome to come and play with us providing you don't start beating us alright which is counter productive as you point out.

From our perspective it's a blow alright but we'll have to work round it but friendlies are nowhere near as useful as a meaningful league game..
It seems very short-sighted. Surely the aim should be to make the leagues as competitive as possible to make better players  which has a multiplier effect into county level. If Antrim teams were playing the likes of Sneil more often they might develop a plan for stopping them at provincial level.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 01:09:52 PM
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on February 01, 2022, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: Last Man on February 01, 2022, 09:27:40 AM
One thing you have to understand about the man is that he doesn't do procrastination. In my experience he always consults and trys to achieve concensus but he will not wait for the perfect solution as he will always look to box an issue off and move on. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that as long as your consultations take in a wide spread of opinions.

i have it from one source that one of his lieutenants believed there is value in allowing outside teams into the Antrim leagues to raise the standards but was shot down as no Antrim club team won an Ulster title this year, so why should Antrim develop these other teams??

SN don't have a team in the senior leagues but if they did it would certainly make it a lot more interesting.

Not sure about Banagher.

Seems a bit narrow minded if that's the attitude. It's not that many years ago we were cap in hand at HQ begging to get into Leinster SHC and underage leagues etc to improve our own competitiveness at intercounty level. Is this not the same thing at a different level ? There may be some other factor at play here, I am not sure. In fairness , history suggests Antrim have been quite accommodating over the years on these types of things.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 01:09:52 PM
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 01, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 01:09:52 PM
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..

3 Derry clubs, Lynches, Screen and Slaughtneil at U 20 level.

However these teams are to play their matches away, I understand.

Leagues are split so the Derry teams are in with North Antrim clubs and the Down teams are in a group with the Belfast clubs to save excess travel.

This does not apply to the Down clubs.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 01, 2022, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 01, 2022, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 01:09:52 PM
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..

3 Derry clubs, Lynches, Screen and Slaughtneil at U 20 level.

However these teams are to play their matches away, I understand.

Leagues are split so the Derry teams are in with North Antrim clubs and the Down teams are in a group with the Belfast clubs to save excess travel.

This does not apply to the Down clubs.
The Down clubs will have home fixtures.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 01, 2022, 05:12:27 PM
u20 slaughtneil, lynches and lavey
resrve lavey, lynches and screen
div 3 na magha
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 11:53:38 PM
So our club secretary at the county board meeting Monday night and says it was passed that all Derry teams were allowed entry to Antrim all county leagues from u15 up, but something seems to have changed today as no u15 and no u17. Don't understand how that can be it county meeting passed it last night?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 03, 2022, 10:31:25 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2022, 11:53:38 PM
So our club secretary at the county board meeting Monday night and says it was passed that all Derry teams were allowed entry to Antrim all county leagues from u15 up, but something seems to have changed today as no u15 and no u17. Don't understand how that can be it county meeting passed it last night?

Yep,
   Our secretary has just informed me that we're not getting the U17 hurlers into the Antrim leagues. Disappointing to say the least.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 06, 2022, 05:24:14 PM
Skinny getting some slating online about his performance in Parnell.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2022, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 06, 2022, 05:24:14 PM
Skinny getting some slating online about his performance in Parnell.

Watched the game, very difficult to ref that game with all the rucks and slapping going on.

Was this slating on Twitter?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on February 07, 2022, 08:44:23 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 06, 2022, 05:24:14 PM
Skinny getting some slating online about his performance in Parnell.

I listened to it in the car on the way home from the Athletic Grounds, they were saying he was makin gall the right decisions, only one they spouted about was the time taken to sort out 1 schemozzle, apart from that he was great. Don't believe everything you read on the net
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2022, 08:48:52 AM
Always thought he was a great ref. I haven't read much either. Where was that online?

Seemed like a good enough performance yesterday. That's going to be a tough division with Laois running Tipp tight too.

JC that's a very good win for Down.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2022, 09:06:25 AM
A few tweets I saw just.

I watched the game and he didn't do anything wrong. He made the correct calls.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2022, 09:13:35 AM
I see, a few,  on social media unhappy with the lack of cameras at Nowlan park. I would agree. I think that's pretty pathetic tbh that you don't coverage when you're not in division one then you get there and you still get no coverage. Really poor from RTE.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 07, 2022, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 07, 2022, 09:06:25 AM
A few tweets I saw just.

I watched the game and he didn't do anything wrong. He made the correct calls.

He got the big calls right IMO and evidently someone in the Dublin backroom team needs to inform their keeper of the rule changes that have been in over a year now and tweaked slightly over the winter as penalties can be given if denying a goalscoring opportunity within the 20metre line.

Typical Nordie referee bashing.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2022, 09:49:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 07, 2022, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 07, 2022, 09:06:25 AM
A few tweets I saw just.

I watched the game and he didn't do anything wrong. He made the correct calls.

He got the big calls right IMO and evidently someone in the Dublin backroom team needs to inform their keeper of the rule changes that have been in over a year now and tweaked slightly over the winter as penalties can be given if denying a goalscoring opportunity within the 20metre line.

Typical Nordie referee bashing.

Yeah I was wondering why he was complaining, the first 'smash down' from the Dublin no.2 I think was something you'd see in a reserve game!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 07, 2022, 10:02:44 AM
Johnnycool I see reports of Carlow players at their "black bastard" I'm assuming sledging of Down players. Not their first rodeo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2022, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 07, 2022, 09:13:35 AM
I see, a few,  on social media unhappy with the lack of cameras at Nowlan park. I would agree. I think that's pretty pathetic tbh that you don't coverage when you're not in division one then you get there and you still get no coverage. Really poor from RTE.

I didn't go down one reason being I thought it would be streamed on some platform. I have gaago, now and beosports and nothing.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2022, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 07, 2022, 10:02:44 AM
Johnnycool I see reports of Carlow players at their "black bastard" I'm assuming sledging of Down players. Not their first rodeo

That kind of muck has been going on for years, I remember down in Laois with our Hurlers  a few years back even their backroom team was getting stuck in with the British stuff after a shemozzle at the whistle. Further back pinky got the line reacting badly to the same thing. I think the accepted stance always was just don't react unless the score board.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffron123 on February 07, 2022, 04:06:42 PM
That stuffs going on the full time, St Thomas' were at it against cushendall, banagher got the same a couple of weeks back and not the first time carlow been at it! Liam Watson had the right idea when same happened him against tipp. think twice about saying it again after that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 07, 2022, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on February 07, 2022, 04:06:42 PM
That stuffs going on the full time, St Thomas' were at it against cushendall, banagher got the same a couple of weeks back and not the first time carlow been at it! Liam Watson had the right idea when same happened him against tipp. think twice about saying it again after that

::) ::) ::)

Any of the southern teams engaging in this are letting themselves down more than they even realise themselves.

Call it out after every game it happens in and shame them publicly. Bring it to the refs attention during the games and get it into referees report, so it will have to be dealt with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 07, 2022, 06:47:35 PM
How stupid are the southern teams resorting to the Brit / black bastard carry on. Really haven't got a clue.  Probably force fed that sort of shite by their Fine Gael / West Brit masters. C*nts are so dense they haven't the brains to think for themselves.
That Carlow team should have been directed to Gawn St in East Belfast - wouldn't have been shouting their nonsense then.
Carlow played Antrim in the Christy Ring in Corrigan a few years ago and they came to cause serious injury. 3 Antrim players were carried off with 3 Carlow players red carded. Thing is if they had came to play hurling they would have beat Antrim handy enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2022, 09:46:58 PM
Good to see some footage of the hurlers there. They definitely had some decent scores. A wee slip towards the end for a Kilkenny score could have went the other way and made it interesting too.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 08, 2022, 05:11:47 PM
U20 hurlers and minor hurlers training camp over the weekend. U20 hurlers beat by Tipp U17 if i heard right. Thats some indicator of where we are, or rather how far off the top table Antrim hurling is.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2022, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 08, 2022, 05:11:47 PM
U20 hurlers and minor hurlers training camp over the weekend. U20 hurlers beat by Tipp U17 if i heard right. Thats some indicator of where we are, or rather how far off the top table Antrim hurling is.

The U-20 team is very young
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on February 12, 2022, 11:22:06 AM
Big match today with the Dubs. Not overly optimistic as the Dubs are in really good form but looking forward to the match as I haven't seen the county in person for a couple of years due to Covid. Hopefully its a good tight competitive game with a few good scores thrown in along the way
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
Antrim are great value at +6.5 today, Dublin are a very good team but we've plenty good talent playing and great options on the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2022, 12:53:17 PM
Dublin have a level of physicality we struggle with. Hoping for a good performance at least but unfortunately don't think we will get any points here. I will be very glad to be wrong mind you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2022, 02:21:09 PM
I love the way Antrim respect the National Anthem.
Playing really well leading Dublin by 2 against the breeze Dublin
hitting alot of wides. Neil McManus superb goal.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2022, 02:41:44 PM
Half time Antrim 1 - 8 Dublin 1- 8 soft soft penalty to equalize for the Dubs. Commentators think it's a five point breeze in favor of Antrim for the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2022, 03:28:30 PM
10 minutes left Dublin well on top 2-19 to Antrims 2-13
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2022, 03:37:37 PM
Dublin win by 4 points 2-19 to 2-15.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 12, 2022, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on February 12, 2022, 02:41:44 PM
Half time Antrim 1 - 8 Dublin 1- 8 soft soft penalty to equalize for the Dubs. Commentators think it's a five point breeze in favor of Antrim for the second half.

I actually thought a team like dublin who work the ball up the pitch (like most teams do) would cope ok into the wind. They were well in control in second half, seemed to win every ruck & 50/50 ball
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2022, 04:17:51 PM
We stopped second half, the hand pass out to the overlapping player was too easy, we aren't far away but struggled at times to cope with their play.

All that said we gave away a soft enough penalty and should have went 3 up at half time. The weather and conditions would have played a part but it's the same for both.

They took the second goal well, ball out wide head up found the man running through who from tight angle squeezed it in.

Good crowd at the game and NmM was stand out player for us
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2022, 10:17:09 PM
Davy is a bit less condescending about us than auld donal og.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 13, 2022, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 13, 2022, 10:20:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2022, 10:17:09 PM
Davy is a bit less condescending about us than auld donal og.
Just a bit. We are passionate about our hurling up here, I am glad to hear....again. "They're shite but they really enjoy it."

Davy friendly with Tony Shivers and is well looked after when he comes up here so he is always going to play nice  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2022, 11:43:33 PM
Yous need Brendan Rogers. Then again so do wew
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 14, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2022, 11:43:33 PM
Yous need Brendan Rogers. Then again so do wew

I know he's an Antrim man, not sure of his hurling pedigree though;

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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2022, 09:22:56 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 14, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 13, 2022, 11:43:33 PM
Yous need Brendan Rogers. Then again so do wew

I know he's an Antrim man, not sure of his hurling pedigree though;

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Carnlough men generally played for Glenarm, I'm not sure I came up against him to be fair, looks like a nippy wee corner forward
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2022, 10:44:35 AM
He didn't hurl a lot. Was more a Basketballer. His wee brother Declan was a class act though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM
Waterford next for Antrim in two weeks, who put up an absolute cricket score on Laois. Do we think the Ballygunner players will be back or still on the sauce ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 14, 2022, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM
Waterford next for Antrim in two weeks, who put up an absolute cricket score on Laois. Do we think the Ballygunner players will be back or still on the sauce ?

Still on the sauce, Waterford by 10, seriously though Antrim hurling well and if they had another marquee forward with physical strength like Rogers they could be getting closer to Dublin.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 14, 2022, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 14, 2022, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 14, 2022, 01:54:04 PM
Waterford next for Antrim in two weeks, who put up an absolute cricket score on Laois. Do we think the Ballygunner players will be back or still on the sauce ?

Still on the sauce, Waterford by 10, seriously though Antrim hurling well and if they had another marquee forward with physical strength like Rogers they could be getting closer to Dublin.

Hi ya Brendan
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2022, 04:20:52 PM
He's right though. I said this myself. A ball winning forward who would go at defenders would be a godsend for us.

Worrying what Waterford did to Laois.

I think we are improving again but this division is just so tough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on February 15, 2022, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2022, 04:20:52 PM
He's right though. I said this myself. A ball winning forward who would go at defenders would be a godsend for us.

Worrying what Waterford did to Laois.

I think we are improving again but this division is just so tough.

It's unforgiving but you'll learn a lot more playing the Kilkenny's and Waterfords of this world than playing in a lower division where wins are easier to come by.

Barring McManus it seems a young enough panel who'll come good in a few years time if they keep getting this type of exposure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2022, 11:41:02 AM
Yeah it's all definitely heading in the right direction. The score waterford put up against Laois is a worry but the Laois game is the critical one.

It's a pity Clare weren't in this division. I think they'd be beatable too. Maybe, maybe, wexford we could give a game to as well.

Good to see Down improving. (Though hopefully not too much  ;D)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2022, 11:54:52 AM
There really isnt that much of a gap to Clare and Wexford. It we could get some level of consistency and get into this group it would bring us on over the next few years.

Thought the Clare Wexford match was poor enough at the weekend but that group of those two Dublin Laois and ourselves could be a seriously competitive league on its own.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2022, 12:14:34 PM
Yeah tbh a true division 1a and 1b or 1 and 2 or whatever they want to label them as would arguably be better for teams like us rather than mixing 12 teams. It actually would be much better for the top teams too as relegation would be a real scramble. (It was like that before).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 15, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2022, 12:14:34 PM
Yeah tbh a true division 1a and 1b or 1 and 2 or whatever they want to label them as would arguably be better for teams like us rather than mixing 12 teams. It actually would be much better for the top teams too as relegation would be a real scramble. (It was like that before).

Problem being that teams have looked at the league and nearly picked and chosen when they wanted to be in the division that 'suited' them at that particular time.
Galway and Limerick have been guilty of this in the past.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 27, 2022, 03:19:25 PM
Close today & great chance to salvage a draw after Waterford seemed to see off the Antrim challenge but not sure if McManus didn't get his lift right for the penalty at the death
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 27, 2022, 05:21:57 PM
It happens and with the performance Neil has put in I'll certainly not criticise this. We were unreal and there nearly is a score between all the games we have played. We are playing some stuff at the highest level.

Points are needed but performances are just important
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on February 27, 2022, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2022, 03:19:25 PM
Close today & great chance to salvage a draw after Waterford seemed to see off the Antrim challenge but not sure if McManus didn't get his lift right for the penalty at the death
Antrim played really well today, much better than the Dublin match, Very accurate and used the ball well. Waterfords free taking was woeful and kept us in the game but the we shot ourselves in the foot with a sloppy goal given away just after half time. Still thought we deserved the draw, 2-21 is good shooting against this standard of opposition. I thought Neil McManus and Keelan Molloy made Conor Prunty and Tadgh De Burka look very ordinary which they are not. Against that Austin Gleeson was on a different level to eveyone else in the second half. Antrims marking switch at half time did not work out at all although I understand why they did it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2022, 12:01:59 PM
Good display yesterday and barring a couple of unforced errors at the back which turned into scores and some fumbles at the front could have snatched the win.

Thought the technique on the penalty was strange. But can't fault the performance.

Seeing a lot of chat about comments made during the game again, hopefully the referee has noted it in his report, getting far to common.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: barnish oggie on February 28, 2022, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2022, 12:01:59 PM
Good display yesterday and barring a couple of unforced errors at the back which turned into scores and some fumbles at the front could have snatched the win.

Thought the technique on the penalty was strange. But can't fault the performance.

Seeing a lot of chat about comments made during the game again, hopefully the referee has noted it in his report, getting far to common.

think the offender has been identified on social media but not sure if it is ok to say it here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2022, 07:36:22 PM
Was ref'ing a 'north' 'south' game on Sunday morning and was keen to see if there was going to be any of that crap, nothing to be fair, I've done plenty college games too and have yet to hear it within ear shot of me.

But I've been to plenty games and heard it, needs to be stopped and get back to slagging your ma  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on February 28, 2022, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2022, 12:01:59 PM
Good display yesterday and barring a couple of unforced errors at the back which turned into scores and some fumbles at the front could have snatched the win.

Thought the technique on the penalty was strange. But can't fault the performance.

Seeing a lot of chat about comments made during the game again, hopefully the referee has noted it in his report, getting far to common.

Should of had his top row slapped out whoever was at it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on February 28, 2022, 11:15:45 PM
It shouldn't even have come to McManus's penalty, after David Kearneys shot was brilliantly saved was it McCann that tried to dip it and got fouled ? The ball was almost on the line and should have been buried if I remember correctly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 06, 2022, 04:16:06 PM
This is poor enough fare from Antrim so far
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2022, 04:18:12 PM
Even with a man down we are straight to win ball, frees are keeping us in...

Laois are antrims bogey team!

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2022, 05:08:35 PM
Do we have only 1 free taker?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2022, 05:17:44 PM
We've just no shape,  Laois in fairness are up for the fight, they seem to be mouthy gits to boot!

Decision making is atrocious
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 06, 2022, 05:22:43 PM
Abysmal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 06, 2022, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2022, 05:08:35 PM
Do we have only 1 free taker?

You would be doing well to get McManus off the frees no matter how he is going on them
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 06, 2022, 05:29:05 PM
Well that is just shit.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2022, 05:50:49 PM
A real sickener the way it panned out.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 06, 2022, 05:54:02 PM
Poor, Down flying
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2022, 06:27:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 06, 2022, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2022, 05:08:35 PM
Do we have only 1 free taker?

You would be doing well to get McManus off the frees no matter how he is going on them

Surely the call should of come from the sideline
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 06, 2022, 07:34:18 PM
The lack of composure and decision making was worrying. Think that has to be the end of the Nugent experiment at #11, it's edge of the square maybe last 15 mins for him at best. Doesent have the mobility or stickwork for that level. Very disappointing day, Laois nothing special and we played them for about 50 mins a man down.

As few poster have said there should be someone there to take the frees when McManus isn't at it, and missing a 65 at Div 1 level is fairly rare I would have thought.

A reality check and no bad thing, outside the confines of Corrigan I had a feeling it would be more difficult.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on March 06, 2022, 08:09:25 PM
All that's been said today is hard to argue with. Yet a few seasons back if someone told us we'd be competitive in division one we'd have scoffed.

McManus and others had an off day.

James McNaughton made a significant impact upon arrival and Eoghan Campbell was super throughout. This style of player is what we should be trying to develop from underage. Fast, agile and well rounded. Eoghan is looking a little rounded in another way. Is he carrying weight or is he simply beefed up?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Some baffling selections on yesterdays team and subs.

Some baffling decisions in terms of game itself by players on the pitch and the management.

How we havent changed the free taker is unbelievable, this should have been one of the priorities after the Waterford game and it came back to bite us yesterday.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Some baffling selections on yesterdays team and subs.

Some baffling decisions in terms of game itself by players on the pitch and the management.

How we havent changed the free taker is unbelievable, this should have been one of the priorities after the Waterford game and it came back to bite us yesterday.

It was also an issue in the Dublin game, 2 or 3 fairly straightforward ones missed
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Some baffling selections on yesterdays team and subs.

Some baffling decisions in terms of game itself by players on the pitch and the management.

How we havent changed the free taker is unbelievable, this should have been one of the priorities after the Waterford game and it came back to bite us yesterday.

It was also an issue in the Dublin game, 2 or 3 fairly straightforward ones missed

We cant be giving up 3/4 points in any game to any of this opposition, point being there is 95% + free taker on the starting 15 yesterday and probably 99% one on the bench.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 10:40:07 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 09:43:14 AM
Some baffling selections on yesterdays team and subs.

Some baffling decisions in terms of game itself by players on the pitch and the management.

How we havent changed the free taker is unbelievable, this should have been one of the priorities after the Waterford game and it came back to bite us yesterday.

It was also an issue in the Dublin game, 2 or 3 fairly straightforward ones missed

We cant be giving up 3/4 points in any game to any of this opposition, point being there is 95% + free taker on the starting 15 yesterday and probably 99% one on the bench.

James McNaughton? Regardless of frees he should be starting anyway, how Gleeson can't see that is bewildering. One of the few we have with genuine pace
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
Any time we play Laois he really bothers them with his pace. Even when he was very young and light he did - I mind games from probably 4 or 5 years ago where he did.

Every time we seem to be making progress we seem to get that dunt back down to earth  :(

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 07, 2022, 10:55:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 10:42:51 AM
Any time we play Laois he really bothers them with his pace. Even when he was very young and light he did - I mind games from probably 4 or 5 years ago where he did.

Every time we seem to be making progress we seem to get that dunt back down to earth  :(

Yeah but this one seems worse because it is mostly self inflicted, Laois were decent yesterday but outside of that they were not special. The error count just let the game slip from us at a crucial stage. Similar to a spell in the Waterford game when we got turned over from two short puck outs for scores.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 11:00:18 AM
Yeah even the winning score came from an error - and more or less unforced  :(

It's a big setback really. Disappointing but hopefully we use it in the Joe McDonagh. It'll not be easy won.

Down flying again yesterday. I see someone on twitter saying the ulster championship should be brought back. It'd definitely be more interesting these days I think.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 11:07:31 AM
That was a long drive home yesterday and hard to get over. Lots of valid points made and can't argue with any of it. Didn't hurl in the first half and I couldn't figure out what way we where set up. Players who could hold their heads up, Campbell was outstanding, mc Keirnan was the smallest player on the pitch but had the biggest heart for the ball, Walsh was steady but the rest where very poor
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 12:29:06 PM
A few points to take from the game and season so far, it was always going to be a battle, considering the teams we would be meeting, we have put in great displays against teams that have been battle harden in Div 1 for a while. Bar the second half against Dublin we have matched a lot of the bigger teams.

Chedder had penciled in this game from the start, this is your season defining game, they were pumped up so much that they had a man sent off and we still couldn't match the fight, we panicked and played hail Mary balls into the forwards which is meat and drink to defenders, our body language at halftime walking off the pitch was poor, or looked poor from watching on TV others at the game could probably have a better view on that.

This is all before we go on about free takers, Neil has stepped up and nailed hundred of frees over the years, there is a different type of temperament required to do that for the club and county and he has in most cases gets the big scores, whether the weather or pressure was different yesterday I don't know, but I rather have him on the pitch.

In the second half we had 3 other top notch free takers, Clarkey has been brilliant last season, I'm not sure why he hasn't been involved as much this year, James had an arm  injury so that's why he hasn't been involved as much, so that was a factor also possibly. Cunning generally dead eye too.  That aside I was more concerned with our approach play and accuracy from open play never mind frees.

We lost the match over the 73 minutes we played, hopefully that game will give them a kick up the hole
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 07, 2022, 01:54:37 PM
Looking like Offaly in the relegation play off, eminently winnable you would have hoped.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 02:07:38 PM
I would say Offaly are better than Laois. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Onthe40 on March 07, 2022, 02:11:31 PM
very disappointing from Antrim yesterday, it was like waiting for a wake up to happen or rise it to another gear and it never happened.. they didn't bring the required intensity to win the game
when they got the goal, you were thinking right thats the call now to up it for last 5mins but still it didn't happen..
some of the wides they hit were criminal as well in comparison to Laois
I don't think they'll survive the playoff..hope Im wrong
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2022, 02:29:56 PM
It was obvious that Cheddar Plunkett targeted this match as one that Laois could win, especially in Portlaoise.

Laois took big hammerings v Waterford and Kilkenny but kept enough of their powder dry whereas Antrim put in massive effort in their three games.

Cheddar did the same thing last year when Laois came to Corrigan for a dead rubber league match which Antrim won but it was a different story when Laois played Antrim in a Liam McCarthy playoff. Absolutely hockeyed Antrim off the park. Cheddar stated at the time that Laois learned an awful lot about Antrim after the match at Corrigan.

2 championship games for Antrim last year but they played league hurling in both after emptying the tank v Clare and Laois and drawing with Wexford.

Relegation match v Offaly / Limerick is a must win.

Down on the cusp of Division One hurling - hope they make it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Ok hypothetical scenario, if we beat Tipp ( no I'm not high, they are going real bad ) does that put Laois back to bottom on scoring difference if they lose their last match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 12:29:06 PM
A few points to take from the game and season so far, it was always going to be a battle, considering the teams we would be meeting, we have put in great displays against teams that have been battle harden in Div 1 for a while. Bar the second half against Dublin we have matched a lot of the bigger teams.

Chedder had penciled in this game from the start, this is your season defining game, they were pumped up so much that they had a man sent off and we still couldn't match the fight, we panicked and played hail Mary balls into the forwards which is meat and drink to defenders, our body language at halftime walking off the pitch was poor, or looked poor from watching on TV others at the game could probably have a better view on that.

This is all before we go on about free takers, Neil has stepped up and nailed hundred of frees over the years, there is a different type of temperament required to do that for the club and county and he has in most cases gets the big scores, whether the weather or pressure was different yesterday I don't know, but I rather have him on the pitch.

In the second half we had 3 other top notch free takers, Clarkey has been brilliant last season, I'm not sure why he hasn't been involved as much this year, James had an arm  injury so that's why he hasn't been involved as much, so that was a factor also possibly. Cunning generally dead eye too.  That aside I was more concerned with our approach play and accuracy from open play never mind frees.

We lost the match over the 73 minutes we played, hopefully that game will give them a kick up the hole


17 wides in total for Antrim, 10 in the second half playing with the breeze. 13 wides for Laois. That tells a story in itself.

Laois playing with a man down seemed to be able to get their scores much easier compared to Antrim who played into Laois hands, especially on the 40 where Laois packed that sector.

I seen Daniel McKernan winning a ball in midfield surrounded by 4 Laois players and it was Antrim who were supposed to have the extra man
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2022, 02:53:25 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Ok hypothetical scenario, if we beat Tipp ( no I'm not high, they are going real bad ) does that put Laois back to bottom on scoring difference if they lose their last match.

In the unlikely event that Antrim should beat Tipp they'd be on 2 points with Laois and I think it goes head to head so Laois would appear to be safe.

There will probably be a few Offaly spies having a gook look at Antrim next match.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2022, 02:55:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2022, 02:53:25 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Ok hypothetical scenario, if we beat Tipp ( no I'm not high, they are going real bad ) does that put Laois back to bottom on scoring difference if they lose their last match.

In the unlikely event that Antrim should beat Tipp they'd be on 2 points with Laois and I think it goes head to head so Laois would appear to be safe.

There will

That should read good look.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 03:50:51 PM
It's head to head so we are in the relegation playoff regardless. As for Laois targeting this game, I would have thought we would be doing the same
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 03:50:51 PM
It's head to head so we are in the relegation playoff regardless. As for Laois targeting this game, I would have thought we would be doing the same

Yeah and I assume they did, they just were far more hungry.. Sometimes the better team doesn't beat the dogged team and that's what happened yesterday, whatever selection of players that played probably would have lost, they'll know how the lads are reacting best, better than us from the outside looking in.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 04:24:02 PM
Were we really the better team though?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 07, 2022, 04:26:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 04:24:02 PM
Were we really the better team though?

Not yesterday but we've proved to be a better team against the likes of Waterford Kilkenny and first half v Dublin
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
The reality is those games don't really matter when it comes to relegation points. Unfortunately Laois have shown this year and last that they are better than us  :(

(Or at least they know how to beat us)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 07, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
The reality is those games don't really matter when it comes to relegation points. Unfortunately Laois have shown this year and last that they are better than us  :(

(Or at least they know how to beat us)


Better than us for sure, the Mc Donagh play off in Parnell last year was embarrassing and they beat us yesterday with 14 men.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 07, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
Not the worst Antrim performance I've ever seen. Laois away always tough. Too many basic errors. Especially disappointing with 14 men and we couldn't push on. Tipp there for the taking, no doubt about it . Gleeson will have them fired up.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 07, 2022, 07:50:53 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 07, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
Not the worst Antrim performance I've ever seen. Laois away always tough. Too many basic errors. Especially disappointing with 14 men and we couldn't push on. Tipp there for the taking, no doubt about it . Gleeson will have them fired up.

It's harder to get fired up if it doesn't effect our relegation status.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 07, 2022, 06:21:52 PM
Not the worst Antrim performance I've ever seen. Laois away always tough. Too many basic errors. Especially disappointing with 14 men and we couldn't push on. Tipp there for the taking, no doubt about it . Gleeson will have them fired up.

The Tipp match is meaningless
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:52:32 AM
Minors had a good win at the weekend against Carlow, out again this weekend vs Westmeath. Hearing the u20 qualifier against Down has been moved to St Pats day at a north antrim venue
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 08, 2022, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on March 08, 2022, 08:52:32 AM
Minors had a good win at the weekend against Carlow, out again this weekend vs Westmeath. Hearing the u20 qualifier against Down has been moved to St Pats day at a north antrim venue

Great to see more effort going into these squad's and hopefully we'll see the rewards at senior. Time we started building from the ground up. Thanks to all the mentors involved
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 08, 2022, 11:21:42 AM
If we beat tipp we are safe.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 08, 2022, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 07, 2022, 03:50:51 PM
It's head to head so we are in the relegation playoff regardless. As for Laois targeting this game, I would have thought we would be doing the same

Point being that Cheddar targeted the Antrim match since the fixtures were released as one that Laois would definitely win.

So Laois never emptied the tank v Waterford and Kilkenny and took a couple of big hidings as a result whereas Antrim did go flat out in their matches and were burnt out when it came to the Laois match.

Cheddar is a cute enough hoor who knows the limitations of his team.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 08, 2022, 12:49:55 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 08, 2022, 11:21:42 AM
If we beat tipp we are safe.

No.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 08, 2022, 01:28:45 PM
I would highly doubt that this game was Laois season. They're a good team who would aspire to more than just beating ourselves to define their season. They have been at this level a long time. They have a good, experienced manager who has been around the block as well.
If the tipp game won't save us then Offaly are definitely there for the taking.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
There are must win games for teams though and that was theirs. Antrim, rightly or wrongly, target all the games it would seem. Doesn't matter either way - they beat us when it mattered this year and last  :(

Offaly won't be easy beat but it's a good test of where we are at.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 08, 2022, 02:56:37 PM
If that is the case that Laois put everything into Sundays game then it's a risky strategy but one that has ultimately reaped great rewards. What another year at Div. 1 does is just immense in terms of developing hurling within a county at all levels.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 08, 2022, 03:06:51 PM
It didn't work last year( as we got enough points elsewhere) but did this year. It's hard to know if they put all their emphasis on the one match tbh but their performances against other teams don't tally with their performances against antrim generally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2022, 04:56:53 PM
The GAA Social podcast had Neil McManus on this week. Good listen. All parties prepared to stick the boot in where needed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 08, 2022, 07:25:04 PM
Neil spoke well. He made very valid points. A lot needing done for Ulster hurling immediately. It's a crisis.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 09, 2022, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 08, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
There are must win games for teams though and that was theirs. Antrim, rightly or wrongly, target all the games it would seem. Doesn't matter either way - they beat us when it mattered this year and last  :(

Offaly won't be easy beat but it's a good test of where we are at.

Offaly beat us in the Walsh cup this year and seem to be picking up a little in their league performances. Two weeks ago I was very confident about Antrims direction of travel. Today not so much.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play

He definitely did and aired some valid points, I just cant have Niblock or McConville.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2022, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play

He definitely did and aired some valid points, I just cant have Niblock or McConville.

On his point about the Ulster Senior championship being canned I think the Ulster Council were struggling to find space in the fixture calendar for it as IIRC we'd the expanded Christy Ring, and I think Antrim were in some sort of Leinster round robin thing with Laois, Westmeath and the likes and the last final I can remember Down ended up playing on the Saturday in the CR and then the very next day vrs Antrim in Owenbeg or the likes.

The then Down manager was a clubman of ours and he kicked up stink about it but was told by a CB official that the Ulster Council weren't for budging on it, so he put out the panelists who weren't getting much game time and Down got walloped.

It died a death that day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2022, 09:11:43 AM
Antrim were bare bones too and were doing the rounds I think to get players. He has a point on it. It was great in it's day when antrim and down were going toe to toe but it had become a procession. It might not be that any more.

The ulster council could not give one shite about hurling irrespective of the rights and wrongs of that mind you.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 10, 2022, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2022, 09:11:43 AM
Antrim were bare bones too and were doing the rounds I think to get players. He has a point on it. It was great in it's day when antrim and down were going toe to toe but it had become a procession. It might not be that any more.

The ulster council could not give one shite about hurling irrespective of the rights and wrongs of that mind you.

Aye but then winning an Ulster title meant something and was a gateway to an AI quarterfinal and the likes, once that was removed and replaced by other competitions then it was always going to fall off the radar.

WRT the Ulster Council, I'm not sure what their role in intercounty hurling is as only last night Down U17 hurlers played Derry in the Leinster Minor hurling qualifier and Antrim will be the same.

All I get from them is Tain leagues and the odd blitz in Magherafelt or the likes, is that enough?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 10, 2022, 12:21:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play

He definitely did and aired some valid points, I just cant have Niblock or McConville.

Agreed, Niblock would eat himself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2022, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2022, 09:11:43 AM
Antrim were bare bones too and were doing the rounds I think to get players. He has a point on it. It was great in it's day when antrim and down were going toe to toe but it had become a procession. It might not be that any more.

The ulster council could not give one shite about hurling irrespective of the rights and wrongs of that mind you.

Aye but then winning an Ulster title meant something and was a gateway to an AI quarterfinal and the likes, once that was removed and replaced by other competitions then it was always going to fall off the radar.

WRT the Ulster Council, I'm not sure what their role in intercounty hurling is as only last night Down U17 hurlers played Derry in the Leinster Minor hurling qualifier and Antrim will be the same.

All I get from them is Tain leagues and the odd blitz in Magherafelt or the likes, is that enough?

Seen these Tain leagues getting a serious push on social media for the past few days.

IMO these are dead on for u8s but as soon as you past that age group there needs to be something else in place.

Im not sure that these on their own are going to start a revolution in hurling within the province.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2022, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play

He definitely did and aired some valid points, I just cant have Niblock or McConville.

Thomas Niblock is one of the nicest most genuine fellas you'll ever meet.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 11, 2022, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2022, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 08, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Agree, Neil spoke really well and wasn't a bit worried about airing his views. Fair play

He definitely did and aired some valid points, I just cant have Niblock or McConville.

Thomas Niblock is one of the nicest most genuine fellas you'll ever meet.

Never said he wasnt, I just cant have his style was nothing against him personally.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 11, 2022, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2022, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2022, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2022, 09:11:43 AM
Antrim were bare bones too and were doing the rounds I think to get players. He has a point on it. It was great in it's day when antrim and down were going toe to toe but it had become a procession. It might not be that any more.

The ulster council could not give one shite about hurling irrespective of the rights and wrongs of that mind you.

Aye but then winning an Ulster title meant something and was a gateway to an AI quarterfinal and the likes, once that was removed and replaced by other competitions then it was always going to fall off the radar.

WRT the Ulster Council, I'm not sure what their role in intercounty hurling is as only last night Down U17 hurlers played Derry in the Leinster Minor hurling qualifier and Antrim will be the same.

All I get from them is Tain leagues and the odd blitz in Magherafelt or the likes, is that enough?

Seen these Tain leagues getting a serious push on social media for the past few days.

IMO these are dead on for u8s but as soon as you past that age group there needs to be something else in place.

Im not sure that these on their own are going to start a revolution in hurling within the province.

They might serve a purpose if you're in a county with very few clubs so you're exposed to clubs from other counties but there's fierce travelling in it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
Don't bite off the hand that feeds you. Kick every Down club outta our leagues after they supported that motion the other night.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 11, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
Don't bite off the hand that feeds you. Kick every Down club outta our leagues after they supported that motion the other night.

Come on! The Down county board would kick the three Down teams out of their own county if they can, in fact they'd welcome that proposal
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2022, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 11, 2022, 02:01:58 PM
Don't bite off the hand that feeds you. Kick every Down club outta our leagues after they supported that motion the other night.

Is that you Ciaran?

Neither of the two Down delegates are from the Ards and probably not tied to a hurling club either and I can tell you without doubt, no club in Down was asked about this.

I don't know why they voted the way they did and they were wrong to do so IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 03:54:15 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 20, 2022, 03:49:43 PM
A dark day for Antrim hurling. That's one of the worst we've taken in years.

Seems as if the wheels came off early doors and never got back on track.

Be tight against Offaly now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 20, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 20, 2022, 03:49:43 PM
A dark day for Antrim hurling. That's one of the worst we've taken in years.

I think we all knew it would be nasty today, and probably would have been with the first 15 out
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 03:55:57 PM
I think Offaly may be better than us. Big game. Serious improvement from down too- they would probably give us our fill of it at present.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
I've been around long enough to know that every now and then we get a tanking, it's been a while but at this level we've done well enough in most games these last 2 seasons, I'll not get too concerned about this result.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Kidder81 on March 20, 2022, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
I've been around long enough to know that every now and then we get a tanking, it's been a while but at this level we've done well enough in most games these last 2 seasons, I'll not get too concerned about this result.

We haven't really, once we left the confines of the early season league games in Corrigan last year the performances and results got progressively worse, that's why we are in the Christy Ring this year & not Leinster.

Hope it's not the same this year
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 20, 2022, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
I've been around long enough to know that every now and then we get a tanking, it's been a while but at this level we've done well enough in most games these last 2 seasons, I'll not get too concerned about this result.
The flip side of that argument is that people see a win, draw or close defeat to one of the top tier teams and lose the run of themselves. I think today is the same as it has been for the last 20 years i.e. we are neither as good nor as bad as we think we are on any given day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 20, 2022, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 20, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
I've been around long enough to know that every now and then we get a tanking, it's been a while but at this level we've done well enough in most games these last 2 seasons, I'll not get too concerned about this result.

We haven't really, once we left the confines of the early season league games in Corrigan last year the performances and results got progressively worse, that's why we are in the Christy Ring this year & not Leinster.

Hope it's not the same this year

I seen us playing well in league games and then against Limerick (before they became this monster) hammer us in Loughgiel.

Our level is just about above Kerry, Westmeath, Carlow and now Down after the season they've had.

We can't seem to get above that on a regular bases
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 05:41:48 PM
When we take the big beatings it tends to be the Munster teams. For me the big game was laois and it is way more disappointing than today. Our big test is the relegation playoff.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 20, 2022, 07:12:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 20, 2022, 05:41:48 PM
When we take the big beatings it tends to be the Munster teams. For me the big game was laois and it is way more disappointing than today. Our big test is the relegation playoff.

This 100%
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 20, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
I think Joe Mc Donagh and Christy Ring should be merged together.

Nicky R and Lorry M. likewise.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: bannside on March 20, 2022, 08:39:46 PM
Reality check today unfortunately. We are ten or twelve in the country ratings, have been for a long time. It's going to take some effort even to get into top eight. That's the reality, unfortunately.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2022, 01:39:48 PM
This result has been coming unfortunately and shows as soon as we weaken the team even slightly we are way off.

The thing I dont get with this is we know the game was a dead rubber, but in a couple of weeks time we will be running up and down the road trying to get friendlies and practice games in. What better game could you get than Tipp at home, use it a challenge game, building to Offaly and into the championship.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 21, 2022, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2022, 01:39:48 PM
This result has been coming unfortunately and shows as soon as we weaken the team even slightly we are way off.

The thing I dont get with this is we know the game was a dead rubber, but in a couple of weeks time we will be running up and down the road trying to get friendlies and practice games in. What better game could you get than Tipp at home, use it a challenge game, building to Offaly and into the championship.

Unless Antrim tried to get points on the board early V Waterford and Dublin etc. especially at home and avoid the play-off. Maybe idea was to sneak a victory at home early on and set themselves up that way.

When that didn't happen, obviously, they then had to play some of the panel to give them game time and see what they're like. Ideal for a manager to say to fringe players - here's your chance V Tipp in Thurles. Show us what you can do. Prove it. If not cutting it, then they've no excuse if they don't start over the next few games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 21, 2022, 08:58:25 PM
Relegation play off set for Navan, Saturday 3pm.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 21, 2022, 09:17:12 PM
I honestly think we will beat Offaly by 5+
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Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
I really hope both of you are right. If we win I don't think it's by much though.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 22, 2022, 07:48:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
I really hope both of you are right. If we win I don't think it's by much though.

Both teams confidence completely shot after last weekends results. So it will come down to whichever team can grind it out on the day. Don't think it will be pretty and I think there are a few issues on the team even from the decent performances earlier in the league.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 10:08:56 AM
Agreed. I am not confident about this one if I'm honest and I really hope I am wrong.
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Post by: marty34 on March 22, 2022, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 22, 2022, 10:08:56 AM
Agreed. I am not confident about this one if I'm honest and I really hope I am wrong.

Literally all on the day.

I wonder is Eoghan Cahill injured?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 23, 2022, 12:13:15 AM
Antrim and Offaly took heavy defeats at the weekend so it's hard to call.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 23, 2022, 04:15:18 PM
I haven't been at all confident about this play off since losing to Laois. Don't forget that Offaly beat us in the Walsh cup already this year and that despite some good performances we are played 8 lost 8 all year. This game will be tight and we have turned losing tight games into an art form  :'(
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 24, 2022, 07:41:24 PM
McManus injured for Saturday ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 24, 2022, 10:33:08 PM
Reports are Mcmanus and Mckenna are out. I still think we will have enough.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2022, 09:07:59 AM
No harm but hopefully this will actually indirectly inject some pace to the forward line and hopefully clear a spot for James or Clarkey to come in somewhere.

Its been dry all week pitches are starting speed up and a long with that so will the games. We need mobile forwards.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:12:43 AM
Pressure will be on then whoever takes over the free taking duties, as there was some complaining last time.

Personally I'd have Neil on them all day, last day out for him wasn't the norm, Clarke has been exceptional at free taking also for the close in frees so hopefully that will resume tomorrow..

Big Nial is as mobile as you'll get in fairness so we'll miss that side of things to be fair
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:12:43 AM
Pressure will be on then whoever takes over the free taking duties, as there was some complaining last time.

Personally I'd have Neil on them all day, last day out for him wasn't the norm, Clarke has been exceptional at free taking also for the close in frees so hopefully that will resume tomorrow..

Big Nial is as mobile as you'll get in fairness so we'll miss that side of things to be fair

MR2 I think you maybe need to take a wee look back at the crunch times in the last few games, free taker should have been changed in the middle of the Waterford game and if not then definitely before the start of the Laois match. Can't afford to be throwing 4/5 points away in these games.

Niall has been a miss but Clarkey and James are a cut above IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:28:39 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:12:43 AM
Pressure will be on then whoever takes over the free taking duties, as there was some complaining last time.

Personally I'd have Neil on them all day, last day out for him wasn't the norm, Clarke has been exceptional at free taking also for the close in frees so hopefully that will resume tomorrow..

Big Nial is as mobile as you'll get in fairness so we'll miss that side of things to be fair

MR2 I think you maybe need to take a wee look back at the crunch times in the last few games, free taker should have been changed in the middle of the Waterford game and if not then definitely before the start of the Laois match. Can't afford to be throwing 4/5 points away in these games.

Niall has been a miss but Clarkey and James are a cut above IMO.

Yes it was certainly below his normal standards but Ive seen enough game time and crucial frees scored. James has been off injured and Clarkey, well the management must be seeing something we aren't. So unless you have been at the training sessions and assessing things then you are going on previous seasons, I hope he brings that level that we are used to on Sat should he be starting.

As for Nial, horses for courses in my view, the physicality that some players bring at that level is where we have been let down in the past, being brushed off the ball or dispossessed in the tackle has been a failing on ours for years, tidy hurlers are great , but a bitta steel is also required, finding the balance is the trick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2022, 09:42:21 AM
McKenna just goes at defenders and has the strength for it. It's something we lack a bit of. I did wonder on McNaughton as he did well against Laois when he came on and tbh last year was one of our best players.

Clarke is a funny one. He will rack up big totals against poorer teams but I always thought he struggled a bit on the physicality front against the division 1 teams. (That is not me calling him out BTW - it is just the physical size he is).
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on March 25, 2022, 09:44:08 AM
Niall McKenna is a certain starter when fit IMO.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 25, 2022, 09:44:46 AM
Offaly far from Div 1 top level standard to be fair.

Not disagreeing with you ITG on any of that.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2022, 10:06:50 AM
Yeah your first point a good one - i.e. play Clarke in this game lol. McKenna in the last year or two was what antrim had been crying out for for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 25, 2022, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2022, 09:19:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 09:12:43 AM
Pressure will be on then whoever takes over the free taking duties, as there was some complaining last time.

Personally I'd have Neil on them all day, last day out for him wasn't the norm, Clarke has been exceptional at free taking also for the close in frees so hopefully that will resume tomorrow..

Big Nial is as mobile as you'll get in fairness so we'll miss that side of things to be fair

MR2 I think you maybe need to take a wee look back at the crunch times in the last few games, free taker should have been changed in the middle of the Waterford game and if not then definitely before the start of the Laois match. Can't afford to be throwing 4/5 points away in these games.

Niall has been a miss but Clarkey and James are a cut above IMO.

You could actually go back to the Dublin game where a few very straightforward ones were missed (we aren't having a go MR2, just stating facts) against Waterford if i remember correctly Austin Gleeson took over free taking duties from Stephen Bennett, who despite being one of the best about was having  an off day.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 02:14:08 PM
So no issues then with regards to the free taking then tomorrow.

Weather to be very good.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 25, 2022, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 02:14:08 PM
So no issues then with regards to the free taking then tomorrow.

Weather to be very good.

You are totally missing the point, if someone is struggling on them then next man up. That's what teams do
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 25, 2022, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2022, 02:14:08 PM
So no issues then with regards to the free taking then tomorrow.

Weather to be very good.

You are totally missing the point, if someone is struggling on them then next man up. That's what teams do

No, I'm taking the piss...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: burdizzo on March 25, 2022, 02:54:58 PM
By the way, lads - nobody is buying the story that McManus is out, least of all Offaly. There's play-acting going on, just like when he got the Wexford last sent off last year, and like when he threw himself to the ground near the end against Leix a few weeks ago, no doubt hoping for something similar!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on March 25, 2022, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on March 25, 2022, 02:54:58 PM
By the way, lads - nobody is buying the story that McManus is out, least of all Offaly. There's play-acting going on, just like when he got the Wexford last sent off last year, and like when he threw himself to the ground near the end against Leix a few weeks ago, no doubt hoping for something similar!

Good man yourself
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on March 25, 2022, 11:17:56 PM
I'll be totally honest I know Neil quite well, best of a fella. I do also feel that Antrim will hurl with a greater freedom when he is not there. Do not read this as a criticism of Neil, Antrim greatest servant as 20 years, just think if we are forced to go wide instead of down the middle it could work.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 04:08:36 AM
The team will come totally alive without Neil in it. You'll see big games from McNaughton, O'Neill, Malloy, Nugent, Elliot and Clarke now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Two Hands FFS on March 26, 2022, 09:32:39 AM
Well it would be about time some of them stepped up consistently, not 20 minutes here and there. Alot of them have been average enough against the better opposition
And there's no doubt the free taking should have been changed the last day out.....Surely that's the management's responsibility??
Think Antrim will win today.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 03:07:59 PM
James with a well taken goal... fairly even enough start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 03:12:30 PM
Antrim flying out of the blocks. James McNaughtons pace is something offaly can't handle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 03:33:18 PM
We are working harder against a decent wind, they are managing to score easier to us, I'm hoping the wind is the reason for that!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on March 26, 2022, 03:34:49 PM
Antrim playing well against the breeze which I reckon adds about 15 yards extra to every puck. Ciaran Clark absolutely torturing the Offaly defense. Getting a lot of breaks of big Donal Og. A little unlucky not to have a couple more goals. We should go for the throat at the start of the second half.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 26, 2022, 03:41:02 PM
Jesus this is a very average Offaly team, expecting us to pull away in second half
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 03:41:47 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on March 26, 2022, 03:34:49 PM
Antrim playing well against the breeze which I reckon adds about 15 yards extra to every puck. Ciaran Clark absolutely torturing the Offaly defense. Getting a lot of breaks of big Donal Og. A little unlucky not to have a couple more goals. We should go for the throat at the start of the second half.

I'd be happy with a 1 point win, let's hope we don't shoot randomly in the second half because we've the wind
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 03:47:41 PM
Thank god for the last 2 minutes. We were the better team throughout but Offaly were staying in the game due to our weak full back line, 4 points, 2 frees and 2 from play from big 100+ yard balls into the full back line. Referee doing us no favours, frontal charge to the head on Conor Johnston should have been a red card wasn't even a free. Frontal charge on Paddy Burke not given ball turned over and point to Offaly. Sideline clearly to Antrim given by the linesman overturned by the ref. Hopefully it doen't cost us.
As someone else said Offaly look poor bar no 11 Samson who looks dangerous, Having the wind in the second half might help steady up our full back line.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 03:48:11 PM
I think we will run away with this in second half. Offaly very poor.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
not sure about the penalty but once again our full back line very rash. Didn't see it as a clear goal scoring opportunity due to other defenders back
All to play for now
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:06:33 PM
O Connor on a black card, Walsh and Rooney on yellow, need a change in there before we end up with a red
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
not sure about the penalty but once again our full back line very rash. Didn't see it as a clear goal scoring opportunity due to other defenders back
All to play for now

That's been a standard penalty all season, who'd you have in that  full back line?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Jonkunlon on March 26, 2022, 04:21:13 PM
Antrim are fitter and faster and that's proving the difference at the minute. There lies the benefits of playing at the top level. Something that hurt us for years.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
not sure about the penalty but once again our full back line very rash. Didn't see it as a clear goal scoring opportunity due to other defenders back
All to play for now

That's been a standard penalty all season, who'd you have in that  full back line?

It really is a problem with no obvious solution, we tried the reserve full back line last week and they conceded 7 against Tipp, need to unearth a corner back/ full back during the Joe McDonagh
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:26:19 PM
Another dangerous frontal charge from Offaly, there have been a few today
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
not sure about the penalty but once again our full back line very rash. Didn't see it as a clear goal scoring opportunity due to other defenders back
All to play for now

That's been a standard penalty all season, who'd you have in that  full back line?

It really is a problem with no obvious solution, we tried the reserve full back line last week and they conceded 7 against Tipp, need to unearth a corner back/ full back during the Joe McDonagh

We'll hardly unearth one now unless he's on the panel as they'll have had no club games and won't be up to the physical demands at this level
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
not sure about the penalty but once again our full back line very rash. Didn't see it as a clear goal scoring opportunity due to other defenders back
All to play for now

That's been a standard penalty all season, who'd you have in that  full back line?

It really is a problem with no obvious solution, we tried the reserve full back line last week and they conceded 7 against Tipp, need to unearth a corner back/ full back during the Joe McDonagh

We'll hardly unearth one now unless he's on the panel as they'll have had no club games and won't be up to the physical demands at this level
We could try blooding some of the Under 20s, it will be Joe McDonagh not Div 1. Better to blood someone in Joe McDonagh than in next years Div 1.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
I think the preseason tournaments would have alerted the management of someone who'd fit the bill. This season might bring someone into the panel for next year, but I think this is our squad for Joe..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 05:59:21 PM
Overall a very good result today with the forwards excellent, James McNaughton particulary good but Ciaran Clarke Conal Cunning and Keelan Molloy took some great scores and big Domhall was good as a target man, Fair play to Darren Gleeson delivering 3 consecutive years of Division 1, its not too often we manage that. Plus when we play through the lines we look really dangerous and Gleeson must have put a huge amount of work into developing that.
As an aside was Daniel McKernan carrying a knock as I thought he had played well all year and was a little unlucky not to start although the two boys in midfield today both had strong games. I am assuming Niall McKenna is not fully fit as he has had very minor involvement this year.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 06:26:36 PM
Brilliant result well done all. Mcnaughton different level! Nugent brilliant. Would mcmanus be better in half back?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 26, 2022, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?

Really solid performance by Antrim today. Every time Offaly came back at them, they pushed on. Played a nice style of hurling.

As I said before, they were unlucky in a few league games at Corrigan and could have had 4 pts, never mind the game V Laois.

I wonder what the average age of that team is?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: rogercasement on March 26, 2022, 08:07:16 PM
Would have to agree
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Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?
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Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 26, 2022, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 26, 2022, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?

Really solid performance by Antrim today. Every time Offaly came back at them, they pushed on. Played a nice style of hurling.

As I said before, they were unlucky in a few league games at Corrigan and could have had 4 pts, never mind the game V Laois.

I wonder what the average age of that team is?

There is quite a few of them who played in the All Ireland U-21 final who would all be around 30/31, Eoin Campbell, Conor McCann, Ciaran Clarke, Paddy Burke maybe can't remember exactly but he has been on the go for Cushendall a long time. On the plus side most of the Dunloy lads plus James McNaughton would be 24 or less. Its a good enough mix overall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?
As I said  talented but not a team player and Antrim have to play as a unit to progress.
That is the opinion round the squad too , There are quite a few happier when he is not on the team
He is not the future of our county and if we want to continue to compete we need a structure and style of play all the way through the squads ..
we need to be able to interchange and that can't happen when we shift and rearrange team to suit one player .
Talented but a square peg in this team ....
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
The team were so good today. Never let offaly get a sniff. With the age profile I genuinely believe there could be a leinster title in these lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 26, 2022, 09:20:43 PM
The scoreline probably flatters a Offaly a bit, we were just better than them all over the pitch. Some amazing Kong range frees scored today, great to see the lads matching skill with fight. A great day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on March 26, 2022, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 26, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on March 26, 2022, 06:20:39 PM
There is no doubting McManus talent but Antrim are a better cohesive unit when he is not playing . They were in 2020 when he was injured and are now . He is now starting to be a distraction . If we want to progress we have to move away from ' The Celeb ' media darling and concentrate on building a strong panel that works and plays for each other.

Wtf are you on?
As I said  talented but not a team player and Antrim have to play as a unit to progress.
That is the opinion round the squad too , There are quite a few happier when he is not on the team
He is not the future of our county and if we want to continue to compete we need a structure and style of play all the way through the squads ..
we need to be able to interchange and that can't happen when we shift and rearrange team to suit one player .
Talented but a square peg in this team ....

You are a tosser. Totally unfair assessment
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 26, 2022, 09:35:57 PM
Quote from: groundlie on March 26, 2022, 08:50:42 PM
The team were so good today. Never let offaly get a sniff. With the age profile I genuinely believe there could be a leinster title in these lads.

Think you have tried this WUM nonsense before, not sure what point you are trying to make
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 26, 2022, 10:11:02 PM
Neil McManus top class
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2022, 08:21:26 AM
Number one name on team sheet.

The opinion round the squad. Sure it is...

Fantastic win yesterday. Glad I was wrong to be worried about it.  The Christy ring should be interesting now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 27, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
With Antrim hammering Offaly and Offaly hsmmering Derry last year in Croke Park, that could put the chat of a re-invented Ulster Championship on the back burner for another while.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on March 27, 2022, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 27, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
With Antrim hammering Offaly and Offaly hsmmering Derry last year in Croke Park, that could put the chat of a re-invented Ulster Championship on the back burner for another while.
Next year we could well have Antrim and Down in Division 1 and Derry in Div 2A hopefully, Its as good a time as any to revive it
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 27, 2022, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 27, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
With Antrim hammering Offaly and Offaly hsmmering Derry last year in Croke Park, that could put the chat of a re-invented Ulster Championship on the back burner for another while.

You hardly hammered them. That's nothing in hurling. Don't worry we won't be playing yous next year shite the tights
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: groundlie on March 27, 2022, 06:23:18 PM
Id say we were without doubt the superior team yesterday vs offaly but I wouldn't say we hammered them. With 10 to go there was one score in it. We've to play these lads again soon so let's not get too ahead of ourselves here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 27, 2022, 06:26:10 PM
Marty34 Apparently Wexford now getting binned from Liam McCarthy lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2022, 07:49:24 PM
Decent strong panel no final formations just yet I'd say for Gleason and his team to work on, hopefully JMcN who came off injured isn't too bad.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: CitySlicker11 on March 27, 2022, 07:56:59 PM
When does the Joe Mcdonagh start?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 27, 2022, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on March 27, 2022, 07:56:59 PM
When does the Joe Mcdonagh start?

16th April v Offaly in Corrigan I'm assuming
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
Jc I see you're playing the division two final in the convenient location of thurles. I guess it's equidistant give or take 200 miles or so ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on March 28, 2022, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
Jc I see you're playing the division two final in the convenient location of thurles. I guess it's equidistant give or take 200 miles or so ;D

I think Down are happy enough with this? Will be great for them to play in Thurles
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 29, 2022, 08:05:02 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 28, 2022, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
Jc I see you're playing the division two final in the convenient location of thurles. I guess it's equidistant give or take 200 miles or so ;D

I think Down are happy enough with this? Will be great for them to play in Thurles

I'd be happy enough to play in Semple if I was a player too, so no worries in that regard.

Hard to beat the same team twice would be my main concern and there's nothing between these two teams when they met three or four weeks ago.

A big step up for Down if they do win it but sure you need to be pushing yourself all the time.

Best of luck to the lads.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2022, 09:31:08 AM
It would be good to see Down up in division 1.

Might give us  chance of winning a game too   ;)

In all seriousness Kerry a good side too though. I see they'd a boy in the fitzgibbon team of the year but he was also on the sigerson one so I imagine big ball would win down there. In Conway they have a cracking player too.

Yeah I would say you are both right about players and Semple. Meant to be a great experience playing there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 29, 2022, 10:02:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2022, 09:31:08 AM
It would be good to see Down up in division 1.

Might give us  chance of winning a game too   ;)

In all seriousness Kerry a good side too though. I see they'd a boy in the fitzgibbon team of the year but he was also on the sigerson one so I imagine big ball would win down there. In Conway they have a cracking player too.

Yeah I would say you are both right about players and Semple. Meant to be a great experience playing there.

It's Westmeath we've to play in Thurles, they beat Kerry in the semi final on Saturday. Like most teams at this level they're much bigger than the Down team but with the Sands brothers and a few others there's serious pace in the Down forwards, just need to be able to get the right ball in.

The last time we beat both in the league we gave Westmeath a good beating in Limerick to win Div2 title back in the mid 00's..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 29, 2022, 10:13:57 AM
When did we play Westmeath in Dunloy? Must have been 2019, they were huge, and physically very strong. Good luck to Down in this final.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
I think getting to play WM in Thurles is massive for Down.

The ball will move quickly and should allow Down's pace to actually count. Big open spaces on a large pitch should suit.

Funny the additional pace worked for Antrim at the weekend too  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on March 29, 2022, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 29, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
I think getting to play WM in Thurles is massive for Down.

The ball will move quickly and should allow Down's pace to actually count. Big open spaces on a large pitch should suit.

Funny the additional pace worked for Antrim at the weekend too  ;)

Yeah, great occasion for Down. Should be a big crowd in for the second half. Hopefully the weather holds up.

Down should be well able for the open spaces in Semple but Westmeath will be tough - an experienced side.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on March 29, 2022, 11:08:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 29, 2022, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 29, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
I think getting to play WM in Thurles is massive for Down.

The ball will move quickly and should allow Down's pace to actually count. Big open spaces on a large pitch should suit.

Funny the additional pace worked for Antrim at the weekend too  ;)

Yeah, great occasion for Down. Should be a big crowd in for the second half. Hopefully the weather holds up.

Down should be well able for the open spaces in Semple but Westmeath will be tough - an experienced side.

considering myself and quite a few like me felt Down would do well to stay up then we're into bonus territory but once you get a chance like this then you'd want to take it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on March 29, 2022, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 29, 2022, 10:02:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 29, 2022, 09:31:08 AM
It would be good to see Down up in division 1.

Might give us  chance of winning a game too   ;)

In all seriousness Kerry a good side too though. I see they'd a boy in the fitzgibbon team of the year but he was also on the sigerson one so I imagine big ball would win down there. In Conway they have a cracking player too.

Yeah I would say you are both right about players and Semple. Meant to be a great experience playing there.

It's Westmeath we've to play in Thurles, they beat Kerry in the semi final on Saturday. Like most teams at this level they're much bigger than the Down team but with the Sands brothers and a few others there's serious pace in the Down forwards, just need to be able to get the right ball in.

The last time we beat both in the league we gave Westmeath a good beating in Limerick to win Div2 title back in the mid 00's..

Oops I thought it was Kerry!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: BigBallWeeBall on March 29, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0328/1289005-cusack-project-belfast-needs-ramping-up/
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 29, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0328/1289005-cusack-project-belfast-needs-ramping-up/

Same guy was running us down in the McDonagh cup final win, I've no time for him at all
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on March 29, 2022, 01:18:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 29, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0328/1289005-cusack-project-belfast-needs-ramping-up/

Same guy was running us down in the McDonagh cup final win, I've no time for him at all

Took you a while to get there MR2, he has no priority other than himself. If it suits his agenda at that time he will be all over it.

You wont hear him mention Antrim or Belfast for the rest of the year now.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 29, 2022, 01:18:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2022, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 29, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0328/1289005-cusack-project-belfast-needs-ramping-up/

Same guy was running us down in the McDonagh cup final win, I've no time for him at all

Took you a while to get there MR2, he has no priority other than himself. If it suits his agenda at that time he will be all over it.

You wont hear him mention Antrim or Belfast for the rest of the year now.

Our approach in Antrim should be slightly different to what's being done currently, but it will only annoy others who'll like to keep their own clubs as they are.

The dual approach doesn't work, we can't sustain it, we'd have a better county team if we had 4 or 5 hurling only clubs in Belfast, all playing and competing in div 1 and chasing senior championships.

Who'll forward that motion will be laughed at or chased out. At the minute we are diluting the hurling due to the amount of clubs that hurl and play football in Belfast. It also can't be a type of club like we have tried in the past, it needs to have a start and proper structure to it, by all means, if you play both continue to do so, but training all season with you team as one set of players will only bring us forward.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 29, 2022, 04:35:32 PM
Quote from: BigBallWeeBall on March 29, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0328/1289005-cusack-project-belfast-needs-ramping-up/

good article, really like Donál Óg, tells it as it is
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Glensman on April 13, 2022, 04:40:15 AM
I see league games for Sunday 24 April are down for 10am. Is that because of the Joe McDonagh match v Down that day? Is it up to the two teams to actually pick a time??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2022, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: Glensman on April 13, 2022, 04:40:15 AM
I see league games for Sunday 24 April are down for 10am. Is that because of the Joe McDonagh match v Down that day? Is it up to the two teams to actually pick a time??

St Endas and Ballycran will have big trips and early starts that day
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on April 13, 2022, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: Glensman on April 13, 2022, 04:40:15 AM
I see league games for Sunday 24 April are down for 10am. Is that because of the Joe McDonagh match v Down that day? Is it up to the two teams to actually pick a time??

That's an early start!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 14, 2022, 09:16:08 AM
Big game against Offaly this weekend at Casement. Forewarned is forearmed and I would expect it to be a lot closer than the league match. Hopefully McManus is back for this game. We could well end up playing Offaly four times this year. Here's hoping for a good performance and a home win, up the Saffs!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2022, 09:30:39 AM
Yeah I think this will be a tough one. How 4? Once already, this game then potentially a final. What else?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games

Really there are three levels of teams there but it would mean 5 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2 and 5 and in div 3 if you were going to avoid these scores, as the same happens in div 2.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Pjoe on April 14, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games

Really there are three levels of teams there but it would mean 5 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2 and 5 and in div 3 if you were going to avoid these scores, as the same happens in div 2.

What clubs are involved in Ard Na Rí at u-15?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 14, 2022, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 14, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games

Really there are three levels of teams there but it would mean 5 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2 and 5 and in div 3 if you were going to avoid these scores, as the same happens in div 2.

What clubs are involved in Ard Na Rí at u-15?
I think its St Galls & St Brigids
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 10:48:55 AM
It'll be a tough game on Sat at Corrigan, can't see NMcM being fit for it so the team that started the last day should (barring any other injuries) be given the same opportunity to follow up on a great performance the last day.

How Offaly react or what they have learned form the last day will be interesting.. decent sub bench gives us a strong panel hoping for a strong start and don't give them a sniff
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 14, 2022, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Ballycran is a decent pitch with a stand, I said before, counties will always look after their own interests #ballycranornowhere   :D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 14, 2022, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Possibly to do with who voted against Antrim, and Corrigan, originally??
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 14, 2022, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Possibly to do with who voted against Antrim, and Corrigan, originally??

Two delegates from Down who wouldn't know one end of a hurl from the other, is that the answer you're after?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 14, 2022, 01:58:29 PM
Down voted for it.

Regardless of delegates being hurlers or footballers the county voted. Should these views not represent down hurling that's something for down hurling to take up.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: Pjoe on April 14, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 14, 2022, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 13, 2022, 10:52:08 PM
Some bad mismatches in those U-15 Div 1 games

Really there are three levels of teams there but it would mean 5 teams in div 1, 10 in div 2 and 5 and in div 3 if you were going to avoid these scores, as the same happens in div 2.

What clubs are involved in Ard Na Rí at u-15?

There are quite a few of these amalgamated teams in both codes and to be honest I get lost at times as to who they are!

There is a Clan na Gael in the U15 football league who i think must be Lisburn and another but not sure.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 14, 2022, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 01:54:53 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 14, 2022, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Heard Antrim are wanting the Down game moved to Newry as they don't want to play in Ballycran.

Surprised at that if there's any truth in it considering the messing around with the UFC game being moved out of Corrigan...

Possibly to do with who voted against Antrim, and Corrigan, originally??

That'll do nicely  :D
Two delegates from Down who wouldn't know one end of a hurl from the other, is that the answer you're after?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 15, 2022, 09:40:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 14, 2022, 09:30:39 AM
Yeah I think this will be a tough one. How 4? Once already, this game then potentially a final. What else?
Twice already, Offaly beat us down there in the Walsh cup. Teams meeting 4 times a year is how niggles and aggro start to appear. Plus Michael Fennelly is no fool and will be learning things from each game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Yeah I agree it obviously meetings the criteria in terms of size etc, but it is not a county standard pitch IMO.

And yeah despite Down's resurgence Antrim should still be ahead.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Yeah I agree it obviously meetings the criteria in terms of size etc, but it is not a county standard pitch IMO.

And yeah despite Down's resurgence Antrim should still be ahead.

I can see why you would say that, it's a small pitch and IMO isn't conducive to an open game, scores are hard to come by and all that, maybe that's why Sheehan and the team seem to like it, but ultimately its a decision for Down CB, but I wouldn't surprise me if they capitulated.

At least the hurlers aren't out on the sauce every weekend as the footballers evidently are.  ;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Yeah I agree it obviously meetings the criteria in terms of size etc, but it is not a county standard pitch IMO.

And yeah despite Down's resurgence Antrim should still be ahead.

I can see why you would say that, it's a small pitch and IMO isn't conducive to an open game, scores are hard to come by and all that, maybe that's why Sheehan and the team seem to like it, but ultimately its a decision for Down CB, but I wouldn't surprise me if they capitulated.

At least the hurlers aren't out on the sauce every weekend as the footballers evidently are.  ;)

JC totally agree and if I was Ronan I would be doing exactly the same. Could never understand why Antrim were always so accomodating to the southern teams travelling up. I would have been making it as awkward as possible, take every advantage going.

We are all great lads until we start competing with them and heaven forbid beating them, then we know what way we are thought of really.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on April 15, 2022, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Yeah I agree it obviously meetings the criteria in terms of size etc, but it is not a county standard pitch IMO.

And yeah despite Down's resurgence Antrim should still be ahead.

I can see why you would say that, it's a small pitch and IMO isn't conducive to an open game, scores are hard to come by and all that, maybe that's why Sheehan and the team seem to like it, but ultimately its a decision for Down CB, but I wouldn't surprise me if they capitulated.

At least the hurlers aren't out on the sauce every weekend as the footballers evidently are.  ;)

JC totally agree and if I was Ronan I would be doing exactly the same. Could never understand why Antrim were always so accomodating to the southern teams travelling up. I would have been making it as awkward as possible, take every advantage going.

We are all great lads until we start competing with them and heaven forbid beating them, then we know what way we are thought of really.

Yeah, IAntrim had a lot of games in Ballycastle - as far away as possible for southern teams.

Maybe this was just when Corrigan was getting re-developed.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 12:18:18 PM
Looking back over the years, the games with the best atmospheres were the game played around the clubs in NA, Cushdendall Loughgiel and Dunloy from my memory.

Obviously other reasons at play now for the placing of games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2022, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 12:18:18 PM
Looking back over the years, the games with the best atmospheres were the game played around the clubs in NA, Cushdendall Loughgiel and Dunloy from my memory.

Obviously other reasons at play now for the placing of games.

Slightly tinted but sure, I can remember games when we were hammered out the gate regardless of the pitches we played on, think my earliest memory of a league game was Wexford up in Dunloy..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 11:09:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 15, 2022, 09:35:06 AM
I think you will find it was originally supposed to be Newry and Down took the call to move it to Ballycran.

There is no way on god's green earth that Ballycran is a county standard pitch. Shouldn't even come into the conversation.

Evidently is as Down played all their home NHL games there, meets the minimum requirements size ways and probably as wide as Corrigan, but TBH it really shouldn't matter where Antrim play Down due to the disparity in ability of both teams.

Yeah I agree it obviously meetings the criteria in terms of size etc, but it is not a county standard pitch IMO.

And yeah despite Down's resurgence Antrim should still be ahead.

I can see why you would say that, it's a small pitch and IMO isn't conducive to an open game, scores are hard to come by and all that, maybe that's why Sheehan and the team seem to like it, but ultimately its a decision for Down CB, but I wouldn't surprise me if they capitulated.

At least the hurlers aren't out on the sauce every weekend as the footballers evidently are.  ;)

JC totally agree and if I was Ronan I would be doing exactly the same. Could never understand why Antrim were always so accomodating to the southern teams travelling up. I would have been making it as awkward as possible, take every advantage going.

We are all great lads until we start competing with them and heaven forbid beating them, then we know what way we are thought of really.

You could level that accusation at a certain CB chairman to be fair  ;)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 15, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
James McNaughton a sub tomorrow  :o injured ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 15, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
James McNaughton a sub tomorrow  :o injured ?

Surprised at that. I'd say he'll start
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on April 15, 2022, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 15, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
James McNaughton a sub tomorrow  :o injured ?

Surprised at that. I'd say he'll start

Yeah, he's a quality player.

Links well with the old network of St.Louis' lads.

Played really well against Offaly recently.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2022, 10:41:29 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 15, 2022, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 15, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 15, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
James McNaughton a sub tomorrow  :o injured ?

Surprised at that. I'd say he'll start

Yeah, he's a quality player.

Links well with the old network of St.Louis' lads.

Played really well against Offaly recently.

Can see Conor McCann moving into FF as he's name on half forward line, James most not be fully fit as I'd have him starting
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2022, 11:29:07 PM
Not much chat about the Offaly game tomorrow, seems a real apathy around the mcdonagh cup this year?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2022, 11:04:54 AM
This is a big game and a bad result for either team puts pressure on. Offaly never easy beat, especially without McManus but hoping we can do what we did in the league. Mcnaughton not starting is strange as he's one of our best but hopefully he can come on and make a difference. McKenna adds a different dimension to us so hopefully back soon.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 16, 2022, 11:34:30 AM
From what I've heard mckenna is out for the remainder of the season
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2022, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 16, 2022, 11:34:30 AM
From what I've heard mckenna is out for the remainder of the season

That's a big blow for club and county
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Stillwater2 on April 16, 2022, 12:12:23 PM
McKenna due back in next few weeks...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 16, 2022, 03:39:25 PM
Phew!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2022, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 16, 2022, 03:39:25 PM
Phew!

They made hard work of that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 16, 2022, 03:57:53 PM
Jeez that was bad for the nerve's.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2022, 12:24:30 AM
So attendance just less than 1000, that's really worrying in regard to interest in our games  and Alsoin the product we are selling to sponsors, where is everyone?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 18, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2022, 12:24:30 AM
So attendance just less than 1000, that's really worrying in regard to interest in our games  and Alsoin the product we are selling to sponsors, where is everyone?
Quite a few people were at the camogie feile that was on at the same time in various venues around the county. You can't be in two places at once.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 18, 2022, 06:37:56 PM
Got to the U17 game in portaferry on Saturday morning, Antrim possibly too cocky, young Roadstone and McGarry had to be sprung from the bench to come away with a result only for Down to steal a draw right at the end with a goal even with 14 men, one of our lads (club) was double carded.

Down were giving everyone game time during this league so never played their strongest team and even on Saturday were down a few starters so there'd be hope of going better this summer.
Sadly a few of our lads won't commit to this team and one in particular would make a big difference, but hey ho, and as his da said to me later on at a camogie game that he needed a boot up the hole  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: paddyjohn on April 18, 2022, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 18, 2022, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 18, 2022, 12:24:30 AM
So attendance just less than 1000, that's really worrying in regard to interest in our games  and Alsoin the product we are selling to sponsors, where is everyone?
Quite a few people were at the camogie feile that was on at the same time in various venues around the county. You can't be in two places at once.


I had a wee one at a camogie match, the wee man at the Football training and another one needed lifting at the train at 2pm. Take my Mrs into the equation and that's 5 that weren't there.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: keep her low this half on April 19, 2022, 02:17:52 PM
Leagues start this week, not much chat so far. I suppose it will be a phoney war in Division 1 until the Joe McDonagh is over. It will be full pelt in Division 3  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: saffman on April 20, 2022, 12:08:06 PM
Rossa V St Johns - st johns by 2+
Loughuile v Dunloy - loughuile by 2+
St endas v ballycastle - st endas by 4+
Cushendun v cushendall - cushendall by 15+
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 21, 2022, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?

Every 2 or 3 minutes I heard it last night ,it has taken over from "STEPS REF!!"
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 21, 2022, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?

Every 2 or 3 minutes I heard it last night ,it has taken over from "STEPS REF!!"

I was like, f**k!!!! I'm like 80 meters closer to the play to ones shouting from the other end of pitch!! The Sunday Game has a lot to answer for lol
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on April 21, 2022, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2022, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on April 21, 2022, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 20, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
The buzz word is "throw ball"

Are managers now employing this 'chant' in training sessions?

Every 2 or 3 minutes I heard it last night ,it has taken over from "STEPS REF!!"

I was like, f**k!!!! I'm like 80 meters closer to the play to ones shouting from the other end of pitch!! The Sunday Game has a lot to answer for lol

Funny I said the same thing, I was far closer to the play but someone on the far side of the pitch can see a throw ball through a crowd of players.
Maybe they all have super power vision
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 22, 2022, 08:57:53 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 20, 2022, 12:08:06 PM
Rossa V St Johns - st johns by 2+
Loughuile v Dunloy - loughuile by 2+
St endas v ballycastle - st endas by 4+
Cushendun v cushendall - cushendall by 15+

Not far away although Ballycastle the surprise package
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 08:58:59 AM
Is the Donaghy who was CHB for Cushendall against Cushendun the boy who used to play for st endas? If so I'd imagine he's a big loss to them.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 22, 2022, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 08:58:59 AM
Is the Donaghy who was CHB for Cushendall against Cushendun the boy who used to play for st endas? If so I'd imagine he's a big loss to them.

Tis
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2022, 09:38:21 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 22, 2022, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 08:58:59 AM
Is the Donaghy who was CHB for Cushendall against Cushendun the boy who used to play for st endas? If so I'd imagine he's a big loss to them.

Tis

I was looking for him the other night as he's always under the ball or picking up the pieces, which they were lacking v Ballycastle. Body blow for St Endas. I think he's from Cushendall?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 10:04:08 AM
Did he not used to be a decent goalie for cushendall a few years ago?

The line-ups in the league looked interesting. Loughgiel are basically full strength bar James McNaughton I think? Dunloy can still put out a strong 15 even without county boys but just not quite strong enough. Ballycastle aren't too bad. I thought Boyd in defense for them looked decent for the county in other years. St Johns looked strong enough too. I am guessing a few boys dropped off the county like McCallin and Shannon and boys like that. (or maybe they're allowed to play?)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: MoChara on April 22, 2022, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2022, 09:38:21 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 22, 2022, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 08:58:59 AM
Is the Donaghy who was CHB for Cushendall against Cushendun the boy who used to play for st endas? If so I'd imagine he's a big loss to them.

Tis

I was looking for him the other night as he's always under the ball or picking up the pieces, which they were lacking v Ballycastle. Body blow for St Endas. I think he's from Cushendall?

yeah hes originally Cushendall.

Looking at the line up Endas were missing a few key players as well, Diamond, Maskey and McGoldrick
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2022, 01:40:18 PM
The minor hurlers won 1-14 to 0-6.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 06:03:07 PM
And the seniors won handy enough also by 15 points, racking up 6 goals as well.

2 in a row
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 24, 2022, 08:43:14 PM
Anyone else at the hurling?

It was an easy enough victory in the end though down will rue a lot of wides too. We definitely have a few things to tighten up on but all in all a fairly clinical performance and McManus getting game time a big plus. With Molloy to come back there'll be a bit of competition for places.

Down despite being beaten still had maybe one of the best performers in diathi sands.

Stand outs for me - cunning and Elliot in forwards. Maskey caused problems with direct running which I didn't realise was part of his game and the half back line very steady. There is a lot of pace in our forward line. I think McNaughton and McManus need a lot more match sharpness but it will come. Nugent I thought was a bit lost in half forwards but when at FF caused havoc.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2022, 09:43:24 PM
Hopefully we can get to Croke park with this bunch.  Shouldn't fear teams in this competition considering we played Div 1..

We just can't afford to be complacent.. focused and ruthless when we can
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on April 25, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 24, 2022, 08:43:14 PM
Anyone else at the hurling?

It was an easy enough victory in the end though down will rue a lot of wides too. We definitely have a few things to tighten up on but all in all a fairly clinical performance and McManus getting game time a big plus. With Molloy to come back there'll be a bit of competition for places.

Down despite being beaten still had maybe one of the best performers in diathi sands.

Stand outs for me - cunning and Elliot in forwards. Maskey caused problems with direct running which I didn't realise was part of his game and the half back line very steady. There is a lot of pace in our forward line. I think McNaughton and McManus need a lot more match sharpness but it will come. Nugent I thought was a bit lost in half forwards but when at FF caused havoc.

Down lack pace in the defence (as well as a bit of a physical presence) and even though Ballycran is a tight pitch Antrim cut them open at will, the gap in standard was evident but Daíthi showed up well and has maybe overtaken the older brother in terms of scoring threat, Eoghan is no slouch either in that regard but was quiet enough.
A few passengers in the Down forwards doesn't help and is well known within the camp, carrying a free taker just isn't enough at this level.

Avoiding relegation is Downs aim and with Kerry beating Carlow, Down still need a point or two from somewhere with the away game in Carlow in three weeks time the most likely place.


Wasn't all bad yesterday, our makeshift team picked up 2 precious points from the Rossa, not able to play 6 county U20's and then three seniors kills small clubs like ours.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 25, 2022, 09:37:30 AM
JC I think your biggest thing is you're very wasteful. If you can address that then that would be a big plus. You had free run on your own puckouts but under no pressure you gave a lot of that possession away. (Although in defense of that there was a very blustery wind but still). There was a point in time when you were 9 Down and if you'd taken your chances there'd have been about 3 in it.

It is hard to know where other teams lie. Carlow tanked Meath, got beat by Kerry who got beat by Down, Meath ran Offaly, reasonably, close etc. Seems a lottery in some of those games.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffrongael on April 30, 2022, 01:20:20 PM
Minors getting trounced by Offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2022, 03:03:34 PM
Phew! Probably lucky enough to win that game.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Carlovia on April 30, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
Thought we had you beat with ten to go today.
We needed to bounce back after last weeks horror show and
at least we put in a good performance.
Good luck in the rest of it.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2022, 06:46:27 PM
Cheers exactly what I thought too.

It was a bit like a game we had years ago - I thought the ref did us no favours for a good bit of the game then when it really counted he did us a few favours.

Your physicality is something we struggle with.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Carlovia on April 30, 2022, 08:25:00 PM
The last ten minutes we couldn't get a break.  Every free and sideline given against us.
But that's the way it goes.  Your midfield in the first half was very good running at out
defence but thought we got to grips with it in the second.
We are in a bit of a rebuilding phase so the performance will give us hope.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2022, 08:34:25 PM
Yeah I recognise a lot less names now.  I thought we had a handle on the game in the first half then gave away the goal and a point needlessly and let you back int it then for a good bit of second half tbh you were the better team. Finishing 15 was better than our starting 15 which helped but definitely it was a tight game that could have went either way.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 02, 2022, 12:04:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 30, 2022, 01:20:20 PM
Minors getting trounced by Offaly

Our u20s and minors compete very well in Tier3 and B competitions but are miles behind the Tier1/A teams, been the same for years
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2022, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2022, 08:34:25 PM
Yeah I recognise a lot less names now.  I thought we had a handle on the game in the first half then gave away the goal and a point needlessly and let you back int it then for a good bit of second half tbh you were the better team. Finishing 15 was better than our starting 15 which helped but definitely it was a tight game that could have went either way.

Carlow needed to put in a performance and they did... we won and hopefully moving towards a day out at Croker..
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 02, 2022, 01:34:20 PM
I think if we beat Meath we are there. We could do with improving from that performance but have a few injuries there too so we should improve.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 04, 2022, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wondering if anyone can help me. Long story short there was an unofficial referee refereeing a game that my son was involved in. He got sent off. I'm being told that he intends on reporting this sending off as well as another incident. Can he do that even though he isnt an official referee?

No
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 04, 2022, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:26:52 PM
Another ref told me that he could.  That's why I was clarifying. Thanks

Did he deserve to get sent off?
;)
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: delgany on May 04, 2022, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

Did no official ref turn up ?
Was the stand in  a qualified ref ?
Did the teams toss for the role ?
If there was no coin toss, it wouldnt stand .
The ' unofficial ' ref can only report the score .
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2022, 08:16:03 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

Instead of looking for someone to blame, why not be an adult about it and believe the other adult. He was there and volunteered his time so the match could go ahead.

Pretty sure no adult is going to send a kid off that did absolutely nothing.

Same attitude to everything it seems at the moment, 'my wee johnny wouldn't do that' kids are kids and they make mistakes but if they never have any consequences then are they ever going to learn.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 07, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!

That was down in Ballycran, not my home patch, get yer own tea down there, plus you're probably a "latte drinking pan nationalist"...
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Tyrdub on May 08, 2022, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!

That was down in Ballycran, not my home patch, get yer own tea down there, plus you're probably a "latte drinking pan nationalist"...

Capuccino
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 08, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 08, 2022, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!

That was down in Ballycran, not my home patch, get yer own tea down there, plus you're probably a "latte drinking pan nationalist"...

Capuccino

MR2 didn't get any tae either but I thought about offering my hat, some shine off his dome...
Big Maskey the difference, beat by 2 in the end, weren't helped by a stag party in Kilkenny but hey ho

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2022, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 08, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 08, 2022, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 07, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on May 05, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2022, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2022, 08:21:52 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

And neither would you unless you were within 5/10 metres of it.

Don't let it get to you, move on and tell your young lad not to speak to the referee, any referee, just set the ball down and get back into position.

There's only one winner when players start the verbals with a referee and that's the man with the whistle.

Follow that advice on Sunday please  ;D

I'll not be playing so I'm OK to hurl dogs abuse at you.    ;)

Sure call in for a cup of Tae, boiling water from the pot as you'd be a visitor and then a trip to Mass for devotions (is that still a thing?)

Feck that, didnt offer me tea on Sunday past!!!!

I might be built like an elephant but I've the memory of one too!!

That was down in Ballycran, not my home patch, get yer own tea down there, plus you're probably a "latte drinking pan nationalist"...

Capuccino

MR2 didn't get any tae either but I thought about offering my hat, some shine off his dome...
Big Maskey the difference, beat by 2 in the end, weren't helped by a stag party in Kilkenny but hey ho

Maskey was pretty decent in an unusual position for him.. I'd the sun screen on so all good  ;D

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FG7JtoqA0

Sambo
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: podge on May 09, 2022, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FG7JtoqA0

Sambo

Makes a lot of valid points.  But if geography was the main issue why, as he points out, have the Laois, Kerry, westmeaths etc of this world not
Improved ?
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: podge on May 09, 2022, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 09, 2022, 11:37:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FG7JtoqA0

Sambo

Makes a lot of valid points.  But if geography was the main issue why, as he points out, have the Laois, Kerry, westmeaths etc of this world not
Improved ?

They have massively improved from where they were in the mid 80's and 90's they have overtook Antrim at times over those years, Dublin were poor for many years also and now are just below that top grouping and manage to stay in touch with the best...

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
I don't think Laois have improved massively in that time and I wouldn't be so sure on Westmeath either though maybe they have a bit. We were challenging for all Ireland final places in those days and are far from it now so I don't think it's a case of them overtaking us either.

Dublin is huge and money a big factor too. Kerry maybe have improved but have been given us a rattle for twenty odd years. It used to be Shane brick tortured us now it's Shane Conway.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
I don't think Laois have improved massively in that time and I wouldn't be so sure on Westmeath either though maybe they have a bit. We were challenging for all Ireland final places in those days and are far from it now so I don't think it's a case of them overtaking us either.

Dublin is huge and money a big factor too. Kerry maybe have improved but have been given us a rattle for twenty odd years. It used to be Shane brick tortured us now it's Shane Conway.

In fairness only reason Antrim were challenging in semifinals  was that there were almost in the semi-final every year so it's a bit of a false narrative.

After the competition was changed, Antrim's real level was the Joe Mc Donagh.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 10:46:52 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
I don't think Laois have improved massively in that time and I wouldn't be so sure on Westmeath either though maybe they have a bit. We were challenging for all Ireland final places in those days and are far from it now so I don't think it's a case of them overtaking us either.

Dublin is huge and money a big factor too. Kerry maybe have improved but have been given us a rattle for twenty odd years. It used to be Shane brick tortured us now it's Shane Conway.

But Westmeath and Laois are above us, Kerry we're beating us handy up to recently, considering these counties would be football first traditionally I'd say they have been able to maintain and grow, Laois minors had a great win at weekend, we didn't v Offaly
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: ned on May 10, 2022, 12:41:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
I don't think Laois have improved massively in that time and I wouldn't be so sure on Westmeath either though maybe they have a bit. We were challenging for all Ireland final places in those days and are far from it now so I don't think it's a case of them overtaking us either.

Dublin is huge and money a big factor too. Kerry maybe have improved but have been given us a rattle for twenty odd years. It used to be Shane brick tortured us now it's Shane Conway.

In fairness only reason Antrim were challenging in semifinals  was that there were almost in the semi-final every year so it's a bit of a false narrative.

After the competition was changed, Antrim's real level was the Joe Mc Donagh.

Not entirely true. Obviously Antrim had a mostly easy route into the semis for a while. They had to work up to that right. It wasn't long before, that that "golden generation" were playing junior competition. It was a coalescing of a very good talent pool. Antrim probably should have made one more AI final if not 2 around that time. Lack of experience, not talent, was the main downfall.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 08:00:42 AM
Mr Westmeath are not really above us. Laois are. Westmeath are the other yo yo team. If we played Laois 10 times we would beat them quite a few - and they would us too.

Marty I think there's a narrative in what you say tbh. We challenged in a significant number of ai semis against provincial champions. We wouldn't have the players to be at that level now. It may have been one off games but I don't think that matters.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2022, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 08:00:42 AM
Mr Westmeath are not really above us. Laois are. Westmeath are the other yo yo team. If we played Laois 10 times we would beat them quite a few - and they would us too.

Marty I think there's a narrative in what you say tbh. We challenged in a significant number of ai semis against provincial champions. We wouldn't have the players to be at that level now. It may have been one off games but I don't think that matters.

Currently and I'm talking previous 4 or 5 years Westmeath and Laois have out performed us when it matters, so in my book they are playing better...

Ideally you could have a tier with Westmeath, Laois, Antrim, Offaly, Kerry, one of the other top tier teams (possibly Dublin) and maybe one of Carlow/Kildare... That would set up a competitive Championship ... For Antrim to flourish they need to generate juvenile teams from under 14 up that are being exposed to top tier teams in the south, this is not just for the players but for coaches to work out going forward how do we compete, how do we develop and see what is being done and what is required...

By the time it gets to minor its too late, there is obviously not enough work being done at those levels either at school or at the club to match that
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 09:16:48 AM
I was thinking recently the Joe McDonagh isn't actually as competitive as it was. I think that might be, in part, due to two "lesser" teams in Leinster. Tbh I look at Laois and Westmeath in Leinster and worry if we go next year it will happen to us. If Laois and Westmeath were in the McDonagh plus the current teams then like you say it would be very competitive. It's a difficult problem to solve for the GAA - I think there is just a top tier and the rest are a good bit below it but then they have to be given a chance but then if they give them a chance they get hammered and so it continues...

Westmeath seem to have really dropped this last year or two.  Carlow too. It takes too much energy to sustain that level when you are just that bit below it. Laois just seem to always be able to stay that level. We do the same too. I would worry if Gleeson goes that would happen.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2022, 09:18:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 10, 2022, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 08:00:42 AM
Mr Westmeath are not really above us. Laois are. Westmeath are the other yo yo team. If we played Laois 10 times we would beat them quite a few - and they would us too.

Marty I think there's a narrative in what you say tbh. We challenged in a significant number of ai semis against provincial champions. We wouldn't have the players to be at that level now. It may have been one off games but I don't think that matters.

Currently and I'm talking previous 4 or 5 years Westmeath and Laois have out performed us when it matters, so in my book they are playing better...

Ideally you could have a tier with Westmeath, Laois, Antrim, Offaly, Kerry, one of the other top tier teams (possibly Dublin) and maybe one of Carlow/Kildare... That would set up a competitive Championship ... For Antrim to flourish they need to generate juvenile teams from under 14 up that are being exposed to top tier teams in the south, this is not just for the players but for coaches to work out going forward how do we compete, how do we develop and see what is being done and what is required...

By the time it gets to minor its too late, there is obviously not enough work being done at those levels either at school or at the club to match that

I think Offaly minors showed why they gave a good Antrim minor team a working...

They're favourites for the Leinster title, but my point still stands with Antrim in particular but also "tier 2" counties in general that exposure at the highest level needs to happen at all age groups and on a consistent basis.
Geography plays a part, but other than a friendly here and there the structures aren't in place to facilitate it.

Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 09:46:15 AM
When your teams are in tier 2 or 3 already by 16/17 then to up that level would be a massive effort. I don't know what age group they get put into the B or C at but that'd be interesting to know.

Geography probably a good factor up until that age. When sambo and woody had those good minor teams they were flat out down the country getting exposure to the southern teams and IIRC had big expenses on the back of it but that is what you need up here.
Title: Re: ANTRIM HURLING
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2022, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Antrim on May 11, 2022, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2022, 08:16:03 AM
Quote from: Antrim on May 04, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
So-called ref accused him of using foul and abusive language towards him. I was there. I didn't hear it.

Instead of looking for someone to blame, why not be an adult about it and believe the other adult. He was there and volunteered his time so the match could go ahead.

Pretty sure no adult is going to send a kid off that did absolutely nothing.

Same attitude to everything it seems at the moment, 'my wee johnny wouldn't do that' kids are kids and they make mistakes but if they never have any consequences then are they ever going to learn.

Well you don't know the context so until you do you should hold back on. I think it was 100% personal so there you go.

Did the stand in ref know your lad? You have mentioned it being personal. Which shouldn't come into it.

Though I did have a game before and while the kid wasn't being over the top he was just questioning everything and I just sent him off, told him this is soft but hopefully he'll learn to keep quiet.. Give ya a sore head after a while  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2022, 03:27:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 12, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
You certainly have me convinced.
It is incomprehensible that a young fella would tell his father a lie about something he was accused of doing.
And totally believable that a referee would pick on a random kid, make up that he used foul and abusive language in order to send him off.

Refs stand in refs are a bloody disgrace.

Fixed that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:05:48 AM
Big win against Meath in a match that didn't really look like a contest at all. Even with Clarke and McManus missing too. The Kerry game is a nothing game now too.

I am not sure if we play Offaly for certain now? I think if Carlow beat Offaly and Kerry beat us maybe score difference would come in?

Good position to be in and we've a lot of injuries so the last game really shouldn't matter that much to us though be nice to get a win anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 09:14:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:05:48 AM
Big win against Meath in a match that didn't really look like a contest at all. Even with Clarke and McManus missing too. The Kerry game is a nothing game now too.

I am not sure if we play Offaly for certain now? I think if Carlow beat Offaly and Kerry beat us maybe score difference would come in?

Good position to be in and we've a lot of injuries so the last game really shouldn't matter that much to us though be nice to get a win anyway.

Give the squad a game, make sure that by doing so all players are buying in and getting some action, the final, I'd rather not get Offaly they probably feel they owe us one..

The final isn't a gimmie so hopefully we can see it through and get back at playing div 1 and Senior hurling, the standard is incredible at that level, yesterdays game the pace in the first half was relentless, the accuracy at times brilliant.

Be interesting to see how Clare push on and Waterford under pressure!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:32:09 AM
Nothing is a gimme but I don't think we have a choice but to give squad players time. Neil McManus was sub goalie at the weekend was how thin we've got lol.

There's been a lot of games in quick succession so it was always going to test a squad.

Clare and Waterford game doesn't mean anything to Clare though but Munster has got very interesting. Also after looking at the results in the leinster good to see Westmeath getting a result because it was looking like teams at that level were just whipping boys and tbh to a point still are.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:32:09 AM
Nothing is a gimme but I don't think we have a choice but to give squad players time. Neil McManus was sub goalie at the weekend was how thin we've got lol.

There's been a lot of games in quick succession so it was always going to test a squad.

Clare and Waterford game doesn't mean anything to Clare though but Munster has got very interesting. Also after looking at the results in the leinster good to see Westmeath getting a result because it was looking like teams at that level were just whipping boys and tbh to a point still are.

Was just going to say that about Westmeath, who are at our level I feel, so well done on them and that may provide some comfort for whoever goes up
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2022, 09:35:24 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 09:32:09 AM
Nothing is a gimme but I don't think we have a choice but to give squad players time. Neil McManus was sub goalie at the weekend was how thin we've got lol.

There's been a lot of games in quick succession so it was always going to test a squad.

Clare and Waterford game doesn't mean anything to Clare though but Munster has got very interesting. Also after looking at the results in the leinster good to see Westmeath getting a result because it was looking like teams at that level were just whipping boys and tbh to a point still are.

Was just going to say that about Westmeath, who are at our level I feel, so well done on them and that may provide some comfort for whoever goes up

I'd have Antrim above Westmeath as much as i've a bit of sick in my throat saying it.  ;D

Still need to win the final, most likely to be Offaly in a neutral venue, but all the best with that.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 04:23:58 PM
We struggle with these big physical teams JC. I would hope we would beat Westmeath but far from a given. Yeah Offaly will have plenty of motivation to beat us. Hopefully the few weeks until the final gives us a full panel to choose from.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 16, 2022, 11:08:10 PM
Sure isn't it Croke Park?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on May 17, 2022, 11:24:26 AM
Do the winners of this years Joe McDonagh still get a route to the All Ireland Series, or has that been abandoned?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2022, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: ardtole on May 17, 2022, 11:24:26 AM
Do the winners of this years Joe McDonagh still get a route to the All Ireland Series, or has that been abandoned?

I would imagine so as we are still div 1 and that's not a route into the All Ireland series, unless there is a final play off with the losers of the all Ireland. looking like Laois and the winners of Joe, which would be slightly unfair but if you can't beat the losers then you'd be in serious shit next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on May 17, 2022, 11:36:05 AM
Quote from: ardtole on May 17, 2022, 11:24:26 AM
Do the winners of this years Joe McDonagh still get a route to the All Ireland Series, or has that been abandoned?

Yeah finalists play 3rd place in Leinster & Munster in a prelim QF is my understanding ? And winners into Leinster championship next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on May 17, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on May 16, 2022, 11:08:10 PM
Sure isn't it Croke Park?

It's before the Leinster Final in Croke Park
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 20, 2022, 09:18:34 AM
any word of the team for tomorrow? take it a few panel lads will get a start?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2022, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 20, 2022, 09:18:34 AM
any word of the team for tomorrow? take it a few panel lads will get a start?

Was speaking to one of the players during the week and he feels they might but injuries are still in the squad and it's not a bad thing to keep the momentum going..

For me though give a good run out to a lot of the players that have been there, start a strong team and then empty the bench at halftime..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
When is the final?

We have a pile of injuries at the minute so I'd have thought we wouldn't be playing a load of ones.

We never beat Kerry easy so would be nice to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2022, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
When is the final?

We have a pile of injuries at the minute so I'd have thought we wouldn't be playing a load of ones.

We never beat Kerry easy so would be nice to beat them.

Before the Leinster Hurling final Saturday the 4th of June, that game is at 7pm so guessing a 5pm start?

Antrim have already qualified for the Joe McDonagh Cup Final and the All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-Finals.

Offaly can clinch second place if they draw with or defeat Carlow on Saturday. But if Carlow win that match and Antrim defeat Kerry, then Carlow will finish second above Offaly on the head-to-head rule.

If Carlow defeat Offaly and Kerry defeat Antrim, then Offaly, Kerry, and Carlow will all finish on six points each and will be separated by scoring difference. Kerry have a big advantage there currently with a scoring difference of +40, with Carlow on +16 and Offaly on +14.

This weekend's match between second from bottom Down and bottom of the table Meath is effectively a relegation play-off. If Down win or draw, Meath are relegated to the Christy Ring Cup for 2023. If Meath win, Down are relegated.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 11:25:48 AM
I would expect Offaly to win but I am not convinced we will beat Kerry as they need it more. I hope Down win and I expect they will be too good for Meath.

I didn't realise we were through to an all ireland quarter final already. That should be interesting. If we win the Joe McDonagh cup we play 3rd in munster which would be harder than losing and playing 3rd in leinster  :o

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 20, 2022, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 20, 2022, 11:25:48 AM
I would expect Offaly to win but I am not convinced we will beat Kerry as they need it more. I hope Down win and I expect they will be too good for Meath.

I didn't realise we were through to an all ireland quarter final already. That should be interesting. If we win the Joe McDonagh cup we play 3rd in munster which would be harder than losing and playing 3rd in leinster  :o

Joe McDonagh winners will play in the Leinster Championship next year.

No promotion for the runners up although the runners up will play the third place team in Leinster.

Looks like the Joe McDonagh winners will be playing Cork  8) 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2022, 02:42:48 PM
Considering the team we had out not a bad outing. Good to see a few struggling for fitness getting game time too. Glad to see down win too.

Just saw there - it's Kerry again in the final. Carlow beat Offaly by 5. Didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2022, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 21, 2022, 02:42:48 PM
Considering the team we had out not a bad outing. Good to see a few struggling for fitness getting game time too. Glad to see down win too.

Just saw there - it's Kerry again in the final. Carlow beat Offaly by 5. Didn't see that coming.

Massive result for Carlow in Offaly.. Kerry will be feeling that they are due a final win over Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2022, 03:01:13 PM
Carlow were very unlucky not to beat us. They're a difficult side to play against.

Kerry not the easiest either. Will be a tight match.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.

The wind down there is crazy, I remember the catch nets would be blowing past the posts onto the pitch!! Scoring a point was difficult  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 07:10:27 PM
I don't think I ever played on that pitch. I was due to play one day and when we arrived there were no posts  :D (a long time ago)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on May 23, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.

The wind down there is crazy, I remember the catch nets would be blowing past the posts onto the pitch!! Scoring a point was difficult  ;D

Down there? The game was played in Rossa park !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: podge on May 23, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.

The wind down there is crazy, I remember the catch nets would be blowing past the posts onto the pitch!! Scoring a point was difficult  ;D

Down there? The game was played in Rossa park !

Aye I noticed that after I posted I read the report !! Then realised who was pucking the ball! He scored 1-2 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on May 23, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
McGhee is still the best keeper in the county and his young fella is going to be a class act also
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 24, 2022, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
McGhee is still the best keeper in the county and his young fella is going to be a class act also

Ex Dunloy McGhee?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on May 24, 2022, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 24, 2022, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 23, 2022, 10:07:17 PM
McGhee is still the best keeper in the county and his young fella is going to be a class act also

Ex Dunloy McGhee?

Yeah
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thegooch13 on May 24, 2022, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.

The wind down there is crazy, I remember the catch nets would be blowing past the posts onto the pitch!! Scoring a point was difficult  ;D
This seems a bit exaggerated doesnt it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 24, 2022, 01:58:57 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 24, 2022, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2022, 07:06:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 05:07:50 PM
The cushendun goalie scored a point from a puck out yesterday. From a puck out! Never heard of that before.

The wind down there is crazy, I remember the catch nets would be blowing past the posts onto the pitch!! Scoring a point was difficult  ;D
This seems a bit exaggerated doesnt it

I can remember the wind coming in from the sea and the catch nets blowing past the posts, now we are going back a load of years but when the gusts were coming in that's how bad it was
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!
I once jumped when i was against the wind and i got blown away. Was a few years ago but I was only a young gosson
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!

Or on a really wet day pushing the car out from the mud to get home!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 25, 2022, 12:13:02 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?
Wooden hut..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
The only team I really mind not having changing rooms were Mitchells where you took your car onto the grass bank at the side of the pitch and changed there then got out and there was someone from the surrounding estate shooting a BB gun at you  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 25, 2022, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
The only team I really mind not having changing rooms were Mitchells where you took your car onto the grass bank at the side of the pitch and changed there then got out and there was someone from the surrounding estate shooting a BB gun at you  ;D
Poleglass ? Changed at the side of the road.

When asked if the cars  / minibus would be OK there were a couple of 'boyos' standing close by providing security  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:21:25 PM
 ;D

The very place. There was a perimeter fence when I was there so you could get your cars in though wouldn't have fancied it in floods of rain. Long time ago so no idea what it's like now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
The only team I really mind not having changing rooms were Mitchells where you took your car onto the grass bank at the side of the pitch and changed there then got out and there was someone from the surrounding estate shooting a BB gun at you  ;D

Never play at the Falls park? no changing rooms our parking... better now, you've your warm up done before you get to the pitch from the changing rooms at the Whiterock centre
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 01:51:07 PM
always changed in leisure centre.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 01:51:07 PM
always changed in leisure centre.

You are young obviously!! I didn't even change at the club which was across the road! As close to that get the better!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 25, 2022, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:21:25 PM
;D

The very place. There was a perimeter fence when I was there so you could get your cars in though wouldn't have fancied it in floods of rain. Long time ago so no idea what it's like now.
Think that 'pitch' in Poleglass is long gone.

Mitchells appear to be on the brink or else they have folded completely so no need to it.

That was the issue with Mitchells - never had a home pitch and no base to recruit from. Slowly but surely faded into obscurity.

Gilly Mc Illhatton had to tog out for them at one stage and he was long retired  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on May 25, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 25, 2022, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:21:25 PM
;D

The very place. There was a perimeter fence when I was there so you could get your cars in though wouldn't have fancied it in floods of rain. Long time ago so no idea what it's like now.
Think that 'pitch' in Poleglass is long gone.

Mitchells appear to be on the brink or else they have folded completely so no need to it.

That was the issue with Mitchells - never had a home pitch and no base to recruit from. Slowly but surely faded into obscurity.

Gilly Mc Illhatton had to tog out for them at one stage and he was long retired  :o :o :o

Is there a club in Poleglass/Twinbrook?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: angermanagement on May 25, 2022, 03:05:38 PM
Colin Gaels, possibly only field up to U16 though. Seemed to be putting a lot of work in underage building from the bottom up, fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 25, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
The only team I really mind not having changing rooms were Mitchells where you took your car onto the grass bank at the side of the pitch and changed there then got out and there was someone from the surrounding estate shooting a BB gun at you  ;D

Never play at the Falls park? no changing rooms our parking... better now, you've your warm up done before you get to the pitch from the changing rooms at the Whiterock centre

Played once there against the Gorts for our seconds when I think there was no reserve league so we ended up in a South Antrim league.

No sidelines marked out and some wee spide scooting across the pitch on a mini scrambler thing.

The game itself was a tad "hectic", plenty of pulling but not on the ball  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Glenarm! Shane  O'Neil's
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 25, 2022, 03:38:06 PM
Cracking 3G pitch in the Falls park now although a bit of a walk to the changing rooms thanks to local residents. Did the Johnnies not take over Mitchells pitch in Poleglass then it was sold for housing??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on May 26, 2022, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Glenarm! Shane  O'Neil's

Maybe it's just my age but i only ever remember them having a changing room, going back to the early 90s.

Hated playing down there more for the issue of having Arthur Forsyth refereeing and not hiding his bias!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 26, 2022, 10:55:34 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 26, 2022, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Glenarm! Shane  O'Neil's

Maybe it's just my age but i only ever remember them having a changing room, going back to the early 90s.

Hated playing down there more for the issue of having Arthur Forsyth refereeing and not hiding his bias!!

Muck and clabber, some battles up there, enjoyable though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 26, 2022, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?
Not when I played, you could describe me as vintage at this stage  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 26, 2022, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 26, 2022, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Glenarm! Shane  O'Neil's

Maybe it's just my age but i only ever remember them having a changing room, going back to the early 90s.

Hated playing down there more for the issue of having Arthur Forsyth refereeing and not hiding his bias!!

I go back to the early 80s, no changing rooms then.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 26, 2022, 12:35:10 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on May 26, 2022, 09:51:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 25, 2022, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: thegooch13 on May 25, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 25, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 24, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
I mind throwing the ball up to take a poc out at the top end and the wind blowing it out for a 70. Between there and Feystown it was crazy!

I always liked Cushendun, Feystown was a different story, getting changed in the whin bushes before and after the match!!
Feystown not having changing rooms back then?

Who plays out of Feystown? Not sure if I've ever played there.

Glenarm! Shane  O'Neil's

Maybe it's just my age but i only ever remember them having a changing room, going back to the early 90s.

Hated playing down there more for the issue of having Arthur Forsyth refereeing and not hiding his bias!!

Used to change in a wooden hut which was later burnt down. The 'new' changing rooms have been in place sine the early 90's.

Arthur, not hiding his bias @&%^. Never   :P :P ::) ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2022, 06:43:27 PM
Interesting lineup for tomorrow. The team looks strong with Molloy and McManus back. Interesting to see maskey back in defense and Burke in the corner. Kerry never easy beat so I would expect a tight game but hopefully we will come out on the right side of it. We look strong from the bench too which is not something we always look.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2022, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2022, 06:43:27 PM
Interesting lineup for tomorrow. The team looks strong with Molloy and McManus back. Interesting to see maskey back in defense and Burke in the corner. Kerry never easy beat so I would expect a tight game but hopefully we will come out on the right side of it. We look strong from the bench too which is not something we always look.

Not sure how that line up will actually line up, keep Kerry guessing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on June 03, 2022, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2022, 06:43:27 PM
Interesting lineup for tomorrow. The team looks strong with Molloy and McManus back. Interesting to see maskey back in defense and Burke in the corner. Kerry never easy beat so I would expect a tight game but hopefully we will come out on the right side of it. We look strong from the bench too which is not something we always look.

I see Antrim winning this by 8+ points
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2022, 10:18:10 PM
Hope you're right. Too many years being an Antrim fan so never get too ahead of myself!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 03, 2022, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 03, 2022, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 03, 2022, 06:43:27 PM
Interesting lineup for tomorrow. The team looks strong with Molloy and McManus back. Interesting to see maskey back in defense and Burke in the corner. Kerry never easy beat so I would expect a tight game but hopefully we will come out on the right side of it. We look strong from the bench too which is not something we always look.

I see Antrim winning this by 8+ points

Kerry are regulars to CP so it should be interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on June 04, 2022, 12:41:27 AM
Good luck to the lads and safe travels to all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 04, 2022, 05:15:11 PM
Antrim totally dominated first 20 minutes referee gave Kerry a non penalty and a few soft frees to keep them in it. Antrim stepped it up again to brush them off. Ciaran Clark scored a goal and assisted in the other two. Conal Cunning doing well from frees and play.  McNaughton, Elliot, McManus all playing well mid field and defense well on top so far. Antrim 3-14 Kerry 1-10 half time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2022, 06:21:53 PM
Phew. I still think there was a bit more in us but that game was so much tighter than it should have been.

We are very good at scoring goals and in coby we have a good one but our defense needs some work to say the least!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on June 04, 2022, 06:30:17 PM
When you look at what Kerry (who are limited) scored it doesent bode well against Cork, obviously Corrigan is a good home advantage but it could be messy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2022, 06:55:24 PM
Social media thinks the ref shafted Kerry with the McKernan free. No mention of the half a dozen ish dodgy decisions against us!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 04, 2022, 07:07:49 PM
Concerning display
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2022, 07:29:34 PM
The 'penalty' they got was absurd and that's me being nice!! Outside of that we stepped off the gas and they started to get into the game more, well deserved second half performance from them but once you lose that momentum it's nearly impossible to pull it back..

Cork will be three levels above
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2022, 07:32:03 PM
Yeah despite it being a one point game I think we were always winning that though the cork game is going to be tough to say the least.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on June 04, 2022, 07:38:33 PM
Antrim started great and got a good lead built up but the second half was brutal, Scored a goal from a 100 yard straight ball and thought that would work all day. Numerous points left behind in the second half in pursuit of goals. Lots of spare defenders back marking space and doing very little.
Delighted to have won and be in the Liam McCarthy next year but if we perform like trhat against Cork it will be a turkey shoot.
As for the refrering it is a completely different game to whats allowed in the Galway KK match
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sportacus on June 04, 2022, 10:52:48 PM
Congratulations, Cup in the front of the bus so job done.  Last twenty minutes were very ropey, lumping it in when a 15 yard pass to a free player would have produced a point. Strange how it went that way.  Was it pre-planned with the arrival of big Nugent?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: rogercasement on June 04, 2022, 10:59:53 PM
The long term goal has to be that that was Antrims last game of Joe McDonagh hurling ever!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2022, 11:10:22 PM
Playing against the wind we play intelligent hurling, short pass to player and ends up with a score, mindset  at halftime was wrong, attitude changes due to wind advantage and score line!!

When you are in control you really need to continue to put the foot on the gas.,,

As for long term goal, if we can be beating Westmeath and Laois consistently then we'll stay up there and improve, if we continue to fail at under 15 and minor we won't have the production line to stay up..

As for big Nugent changing our tactics that wasn't the case, we were lumping balls in long before that.. trying to score from 90 yards is daft, players need to cop on and sort that out as the manager can only relay some information during the game..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sportacus on June 04, 2022, 11:42:34 PM
Fair enough, the long hall just looked massively the wrong option in the last 20 minutes on several occasions and I wondered was it 'Plan Domhnall' at that stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on June 04, 2022, 11:44:07 PM
Anybody got a link for the speech?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on June 05, 2022, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: BrollysArmy on June 05, 2022, 02:20:46 AM
It's a real shame when the county chair lodges a complaint against a player, for playing against his club the day after a county game, instead of making the choice to drink to get more game time in and then he gets the full treatment from the management

??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2022, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on June 04, 2022, 11:42:34 PM
Fair enough, the long hall just looked massively the wrong option in the last 20 minutes on several occasions and I wondered was it 'Plan Domhnall' at that stage.

I don't know why we stopped the diagonal ball. I was wondering were Kerry pushing up on puck outs so we had less space to pick a ball or something like that but we kind of reverted to type which was disappointing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on June 05, 2022, 10:29:13 AM
Does the cork game have any bearing on whether we enter the liam mc carthy next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Upandover on June 05, 2022, 10:29:13 AM
Does the cork game have any bearing on whether we enter the liam mc carthy next year?

No we are in Leinster championship next season regardless
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2022, 12:17:35 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 05, 2022, 12:47:38 AM
Wasn't vintage but we got the job done. Kerry will give Wexford all they want! It's a pity it's in Corrigan for us. I think this game could easily at 15 or 20k. Athletic Grounds would be a ideal location for it with a big Cork support.

No chance, Cork don't travel and we don't have the support
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on June 05, 2022, 01:33:20 PM
People would travel including many neutrals if a tight game was envisaged, but on yesterday's showing even the most optimistic Antrim hurling supporter must be dreading a double digit trouncing. For that reason alone Corrigan shouldn't have much bother hosting two or three thousand die hards.

Let's put it this way, you'de expect this Cork team to put 15 on Kerry and there's nothing between us and Kerry.

Feel free to disagree!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 05, 2022, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 05, 2022, 01:33:20 PM
People would travel including many neutrals if a tight game was envisaged, but on yesterday's showing even the most optimistic Antrim hurling supporter must be dreading a double digit trouncing. For that reason alone Corrigan shouldn't have much bother hosting two or three thousand die hards.

Let's put it this way, you'de expect this Cork team to put 15 on Kerry and there's nothing between us and Kerry.

Feel free to disagree!

Had we pushed on and continued to play like we did in the first half then Cork would be coming up properly focused, there is no reason why Kerry were allowed to dominate the second half like they did, why we changed our approach I don't know, those channels down the wing and balls into space were still an option, the sweeper cleaned up a lot of ball.

If we play both half's we will be competitive, if we play 35 minutes we'll be duffed
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 05, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 05, 2022, 10:31:10 AM
As I said it wasn't vintage but we won. Something needs done about the defence. They were all over the place yesterday. They looked very disjointed and to be honest a bit clueless with and without the ball. Possibly big Donnelly at full back would help give it more structure.

I think, after Antrim were well up a few times in the 2nd half, they didn't close the game out.

They let Kerry back in it by leaving a heap of space in front of their full back-back line.

It was like KK V Tipperary in 2016.

They needed to kill the space in front of their full-back line.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2022, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on June 05, 2022, 01:33:20 PM
People would travel including many neutrals if a tight game was envisaged, but on yesterday's showing even the most optimistic Antrim hurling supporter must be dreading a double digit trouncing. For that reason alone Corrigan shouldn't have much bother hosting two or three thousand die hards.

Let's put it this way, you'de expect this Cork team to put 15 on Kerry and there's nothing between us and Kerry.

Feel free to disagree!

Clare currently giving Limerick all they want. I believe we'll be closer than you think. Not saying Antrim will win but ....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 05, 2022, 04:49:03 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 05, 2022, 04:20:47 PM
We won and that's the main thing. The second have was difficult to watch.

I think the standards of tier 2 and 3 hurling have definitely improved however so has tier 1. Ourselves, Laois, Westmeath, Carlow, Kerry are all capable of giving anyone games but it's just so hard on a regular consistent basis.

Until we are regularly competing and winning at underage against Tier 1 counties then it's always just going to be short term fixes for us at senior.

Antrim are a lomg long way off from beating Tier 1 counties at underage level...a long way off.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 05, 2022, 08:25:13 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 05, 2022, 07:46:12 AM
Quote from: BrollysArmy on June 05, 2022, 02:20:46 AM
It's a real shame when the county chair lodges a complaint against a player, for playing against his club the day after a county game, instead of making the choice to drink to get more game time in and then he gets the full treatment from the management

??

County chairmans club didn't play today...
Probably best to get stories straight before making them up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 11:02:38 AM
Came away from Croke more confused than anything.

Hard to see how we can go from being so on top and so in control to completely clueless and changing of strategy.

Not sure if the change came from the line, but bringing on big Donal would suggest it was led from the sidelines, pure madness.

We have a couple of forwards as good as any around and we showed that in the first half, the defence is so open its not even funny.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 11:26:50 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 11:02:38 AM
Came away from Croke more confused than anything.

Hard to see how we can go from being so on top and so in control to completely clueless and changing of strategy.

Not sure if the change came from the line, but bringing on big Donal would suggest it was led from the sidelines, pure madness.

We have a couple of forwards as good as any around and we showed that in the first half, the defence is so open its not even funny.

We were on a downward spiral before Donal came on I thought?  They won a lot of primary ball, their fielding was far superior and like us in the first half played the better ball against the wind..

The goal they got at the end just put a very poor look on the game.. Had we finished 4 points up at the end I'd have been ok with it and questioned a few things, they aint a bad team and have given us our fill of it for many a year, we've just managed like we did on Sat do enough to win win it mattered against them.

Our strengths on Sat was playing the low ball in front of our quick attackers who were able to turn and set up the scores, we didn't do that in the second half and to be fair to the Kerry management they tried to cut that out and and capitalise on the space up front
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 12:22:11 PM
Yeah the tactics were gone long before Nugent came on - wouldn't put it at his door. Also McManus was busted - he's clearly not fully fit yet - and needed to come off

Our main strength was the quality of diagonal ball into the FF line then Kerry seemed to rumble that a bit. Whether that be pushing up on puckouts or more sweepers I don't know.

I honestly think we were always winning that game. Yes we were suspect at the back but look at Molloy and McManus who've hardly played recently and on being fully fit they would add a lot more than they did (though they were still good). Our defense concedes a pile of space but it always has. I also thought McKenna should have seen a lot more game time.

So in summary IMO we're just about good enough to win the joe mcdonagh and not good enough for the level up as we are probably in for a lesson but that's not much different from ever
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 12:39:08 PM
To be clear I am in no way putting it at Donal's door, yes the tactics were gone at that point. My point is the management did not help this by introducing a player who suits that long ball game.

Difficult to change direction when the game is in full flight for sure but think we could have been a bit smarter and saw the game out a little more comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 12:44:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 12:39:08 PM
To be clear I am in no way putting it at Donal's door, yes the tactics were gone at that point. My point is the management did not help this by introducing a player who suits that long ball game.

Difficult to change direction when the game is in full flight for sure but think we could have been a bit smarter and saw the game out a little more comfortably.

The momentum was gaining and we should have employed a sweeper right in front of the full back, they were winning primary ball and we then either fouled or allowed him inside..

The tactics are discussed at halftime on what to do and its very difficult to rectify mid half when the shit was hitting the fan... Thats when the leaders on the pitch earn their stripes, Daniel McKernan did improve things, regardless of the 'trip' the ref could have said the defender struck his arm and blew for that rather that his trip up
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 12:39:08 PM
To be clear I am in no way putting it at Donal's door, yes the tactics were gone at that point. My point is the management did not help this by introducing a player who suits that long ball game.

Difficult to change direction when the game is in full flight for sure but think we could have been a bit smarter and saw the game out a little more comfortably.

I actually thought it was the right call tbh. McManus was in there to win ball and was done. We needed someone in there who could make the ball stick. He wasn't in long enough to make any difference and tbh at this level maybe struggles for pace but I thought it merited bringing him on.

Dowling did a good wee bit on where we lost things. It was really further out the field with putting the hail marys in.

MR what did you think of Antrim's penalty? Was that belt on McManus a red card offense? i thought it would have been borderline tbh. Also watching it back absolutely no way was the kerry penalty a penalty.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 06, 2022, 12:39:08 PM
To be clear I am in no way putting it at Donal's door, yes the tactics were gone at that point. My point is the management did not help this by introducing a player who suits that long ball game.

Difficult to change direction when the game is in full flight for sure but think we could have been a bit smarter and saw the game out a little more comfortably.

I actually thought it was the right call tbh. McManus was in there to win ball and was done. We needed someone in there who could make the ball stick. He wasn't in long enough to make any difference and tbh at this level maybe struggles for pace but I thought it merited bringing him on.

Dowling did a good wee bit on where we lost things. It was really further out the field with putting the hail marys in.

MR what did you think of Antrim's penalty? Was that belt on McManus a red card offense? i thought it would have been borderline tbh. Also watching it back absolutely no way was the kerry penalty a penalty.

At intercounty level that is the standard call, black card and penalty given, but the play actually didnt break down, Neil got his pass off and he wasn't actually going in on goal then, but the ref's seem to be told that that challenge warrants the black card and penalty, the belts in yesterdays game where yellow cards outside the box so it would have been a soft red for me.

As for that other 'penalty' I really thought at the time he gave it because we were stuffing them! I know that sounds daft but I've watched it back several times and there is literally no contact with the sticks on player, nothing round the neck and no impeding player, so if he did give a penalty why did he not show a black card?

Some calls were suspect but I'd be more concerned with our second half performance
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 02:15:05 PM
Yeah agreed. Just frustrating that you see all this crap about Daniel McKernan's non trip when in fact on the balance of it the ref could have given us a few things too. An Irish examiner journalist questioned Antrim's penalty and Kerry's black card but not Kerry's penalty though...

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 02:15:05 PM
Yeah agreed. Just frustrating that you see all this crap about Daniel McKernan's non trip when in fact on the balance of it the ref could have given us a few things too. An Irish examiner journalist questioned Antrim's penalty and Kerry's black card but not Kerry's penalty though...

I hate nothing more than sore losers.. on the balance of play 76 minutes Antrim deserved to win and the calls given and not given generally even out over the game, I think we can address a few of those issues for Cork, it won't change the result maybe but we should look at shoring up defence and play short balls into space, Cork are very quick also so our lads need to stand up..

Was also going to say that our lads who stood out in the first half were denied a lot of ball in the second half, must have been frustrating for Clarkey and co who lapped up the service in the first half
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2022, 02:40:54 PM
The press and analysts in south showed where their loyalty lies (Kerry) by only wanting to talk about mc kernan. I thought the Ref played advantage and when he hit the deck blew his whistle. Never a penalty and MR2 is spot when he said the Ref gave them some sympathy calls including the penalty, I think that's why he blew it up with one point in it. Still that second half performance took the shine of things.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 02:15:05 PM
Yeah agreed. Just frustrating that you see all this crap about Daniel McKernan's non trip when in fact on the balance of it the ref could have given us a few things too. An Irish examiner journalist questioned Antrim's penalty and Kerry's black card but not Kerry's penalty though...

I hate nothing more than sore losers.. on the balance of play 76 minutes Antrim deserved to win and the calls given and not given generally even out over the game, I think we can address a few of those issues for Cork, it won't change the result maybe but we should look at shoring up defence and play short balls into space, Cork are very quick also so our lads need to stand up..

Was also going to say that our lads who stood out in the first half were denied a lot of ball in the second half, must have been frustrating for Clarkey and co who lapped up the service in the first half

Clarke, Shan and coby seem to drift out to middle third when ball went in. Left a Mc Manus who was out of petrol and mc cann then nugent up against there 7 6 and 9 who happened to be their best players. On the other end our defense was getting sucked out for the their Sub no.20 who hit most of their scores. At this level you gotta fix stuff and quick which we didn't. We nearly blew it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 02:15:05 PM
Yeah agreed. Just frustrating that you see all this crap about Daniel McKernan's non trip when in fact on the balance of it the ref could have given us a few things too. An Irish examiner journalist questioned Antrim's penalty and Kerry's black card but not Kerry's penalty though...

I hate nothing more than sore losers.. on the balance of play 76 minutes Antrim deserved to win and the calls given and not given generally even out over the game, I think we can address a few of those issues for Cork, it won't change the result maybe but we should look at shoring up defence and play short balls into space, Cork are very quick also so our lads need to stand up..

Was also going to say that our lads who stood out in the first half were denied a lot of ball in the second half, must have been frustrating for Clarkey and co who lapped up the service in the first half

Clarke, Shan and coby seem to drift out to middle third when ball went in. Left a Mc Manus who was out of petrol and mc cann then nugent up against there 7 6 and 9 who happened to be their best players. On the other end our defense was getting sucked out for the their Sub no.20 who hit most of their scores. At this level you gotta fix stuff and quick which we didn't. We nearly blew it

So did they drift out naturally like you do when looking for the ball or were they told to drift back and lets save what we have?

I prefer to go on the front foot when you are dominating, push them into making mistakes, when they went down to 14 it made no difference either. so the extra man was missing.

As an aul defender, nothing better than a 50/50 ball knowing you have a sweeper in their also, and we played to that, what's my worse nightmare as a defender, low crossfield balls or 30 yard passes infront of the speedy attacker! impossible at times
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 06, 2022, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2022, 02:40:54 PM
The press and analysts in south showed where their loyalty lies (Kerry) by only wanting to talk about mc kernan. I thought the Ref played advantage and when he hit the deck blew his whistle. Never a penalty and MR2 is spot when he said the Ref gave them some sympathy calls including the penalty, I think that's why he blew it up with one point in it. Still that second half performance took the shine of things.

Kerry penalty was soft, only thing that could possibly in it is that the defender in attempting to get the ball which the Kerry lad threw high in attempt to bat it, their hurl came off the lads helmet which seems to be a free now irrespective of intent.

Mckernans was wrong, he looked to have tripped himself, not sure if he got a smack before it, maybe and with him falling no advantage was accruing but it's about time a Northern team got a rub of the green.

Antrim were by far the better team, but switching off isn't a good trait within the team, not that that'll be an issue against Cork.

You have earned the right to be there, go for broke.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2022, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 06, 2022, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 06, 2022, 02:40:54 PM
The press and analysts in south showed where their loyalty lies (Kerry) by only wanting to talk about mc kernan. I thought the Ref played advantage and when he hit the deck blew his whistle. Never a penalty and MR2 is spot when he said the Ref gave them some sympathy calls including the penalty, I think that's why he blew it up with one point in it. Still that second half performance took the shine of things.

Kerry penalty was soft, only thing that could possibly in it is that the defender in attempting to get the ball which the Kerry lad threw high in attempt to bat it, their hurl came off the lads helmet which seems to be a free now irrespective of intent.

Mckernans was wrong, he looked to have tripped himself, not sure if he got a smack before it, maybe and with him falling no advantage was accruing but it's about time a Northern team got a rub of the green.

Antrim were by far the better team, but switching off isn't a good trait within the team, not that that'll be an issue against Cork.

You have earned the right to be there, go for broke.

yeah we have switched off in most games I think. Despite the down result we really switched off in it too.

I still think that we were a good bit better and concentration, or lack thereof, got the better of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2022, 05:44:54 PM
On two occasions in the 1st half, some distance apart, we were +11 points clear. Between those periods I think Kerry got it to a 4 point differential before we upped it again.. The 2nd half was of course a different matter.

Our attacking team play was superior and I think we were a much better team. We were probably guilty of complacency. We were 4 up with seconds remaining.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 06, 2022, 06:28:04 PM
My feelings on it were Kerry got alot of buttery frees and a non penalty when Antrim were surging ahead. Perhaps a case of the reff trying to let it not be to one sided.

The free we got of young McKiernan was never a free either in fairness.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2022, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 06, 2022, 06:28:04 PM
My feelings on it were Kerry got alot of buttery frees and a non penalty when Antrim were surging ahead. Perhaps a case of the reff trying to let it not be to one sided.

The free we got of young McKiernan was never a free either in fairness.

I agree with both these thoughts. Was never a penalty and was never a free on Daniel. He was as surprised as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 06, 2022, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2022, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on June 06, 2022, 06:28:04 PM
My feelings on it were Kerry got alot of buttery frees and a non penalty when Antrim were surging ahead. Perhaps a case of the reff trying to let it not be to one sided.

The free we got of young McKiernan was never a free either in fairness.

I agree with both these thoughts. Was never a penalty and was never a free on Daniel. He was as surprised as the rest of us.

I saw this happen a few times in games.

Player falls over/trips over and then stops for a few seconds.

Play seems to freeze for a few seconds and then referee awards a free.

No fault on referee but just seems he thinks it's a free when it's not.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bystander on June 07, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Tickets all away for the Cork match? Ticketmaster website seems to be saying none available.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 07, 2022, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: bystander on June 07, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Tickets all away for the Cork match? Ticketmaster website seems to be saying none available.

Yeah have been for a while I think. Only 4000 odd capacity

£22 to stand in the car park, sorry I mean the "south terrace"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 07, 2022, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 07, 2022, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: bystander on June 07, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Tickets all away for the Cork match? Ticketmaster website seems to be saying none available.

Yeah have been for a while I think. Only 4000 odd capacity

£22 to stand in the car park, sorry I mean the "south terrace"

Is it not 3, 700?

I presume the players get tickets for their families plus officials etc. then it's cut down again to 3, 500 I'd say.

Was any released through the clubs or because it was a qualifier match, it all went through an open system?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 07, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 07, 2022, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 07, 2022, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: bystander on June 07, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
Tickets all away for the Cork match? Ticketmaster website seems to be saying none available.

Yeah have been for a while I think. Only 4000 odd capacity

£22 to stand in the car park, sorry I mean the "south terrace"

Is it not 3, 700?

I presume the players get tickets for their families plus officials etc. then it's cut down again to 3, 500 I'd say.

Was any released through the clubs or because it was a qualifier match, it all went through an open system?

Was Ticketmaster at 12pm today, juvenile tickets went very quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 08, 2022, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill

Div 2 in football and hurling very competitive, no outstanding team in Div 2 hurling
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2022, 10:40:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 08, 2022, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill

Div 2 in football and hurling very competitive, no outstanding team in Div 2 hurling

Carey have won 7 in a row before this
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 08, 2022, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2022, 10:40:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 08, 2022, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill

Div 2 in football and hurling very competitive, no outstanding team in Div 2 hurling

Carey have won 7 in a row before this

With an average winning margin of probably 4 or 5 points I would say, they are probably a bit better than the rest but not by much
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 08, 2022, 11:43:04 PM
Hard to judge , Dungannon could be best team in it when they have no county distractions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on June 08, 2022, 11:48:07 PM
Was at a Div 2 game tonight. A team that shall remain nameless had 15 players and no subs. Man off after 15mins injured. Played remainder with 14men and lost narrowly. Apparently a lot of lads have upped sticks and heading to US for the summer. Hard to blame them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on June 08, 2022, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill

Gort beating Ahoghill is a huge shock. Start of the Gort fight to stay up?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 07:54:59 AM
Quote from: ck on June 08, 2022, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: breakingball on June 08, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
few strange results in div2 tonight

carryduff winning away to carey
gort beating ahoghill

Gort beating Ahoghill is a huge shock. Start of the Gort fight to stay up?

Going to Gort on a shitty night like last night wouldn't be easy, on a small tight pitch 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 09:32:29 AM
League means very little of a wednesday night, especially if travelling big distances, we travelled minus 8 starters and only 16 players( 3 lads hadnt played in good while), I am sure a lot of teams are like that with work, exams etc
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

Things will settle down after the weekend's game ans holidays, then get cranked up again for the run in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 10:17:26 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

Things will settle down after the weekend's game ans holidays, then get cranked up again for the run in.

Yep, a division 2 player up with the county and unable to play would be a big player for that club team you would think. A few Div 2 teams have county players, Creggan, Sarsfields, Glenariffe & St Pauls off the top of my head, that will be available after the weekend (barring a monumental shock in Corrigan)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Horgan will be Horgan on the free's but he's not an out and out ball winner and would trust G Walsh to do a good job from play. My worries would be the likes of Shane Kingston in the corner against our Corner backs. Also cullinane and Harneady have found some form.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on June 09, 2022, 11:00:55 AM
ACHL Div 4
Round 6
DATE
Sun 12 Jun 2022
VENUE
Musgrave Park
TIME
5 15 AM

bit of an early start there, is there floodlights in Musgrave?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

One lad back from Edinburgh Uni during the week, but normally most of the others are Belfast based with another lad Coleraine/Magee based so midweek games especially at home are a balls for him.
Luckily two of the panel work for one of our selectors part time, so if they can't get the time off then no one can!!

Exams are a bit of a problem at the minute.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Horgan will be Horgan on the free's but he's not an out and out ball winner and would trust G Walsh to do a good job from play. My worries would be the likes of Shane Kingston in the corner against our Corner backs. Also cullinane and Harneady have found some form.

lehane would be the main issue. We're up against it here but nothing to lose I guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on June 09, 2022, 11:00:55 AM
ACHL Div 4
Round 6
DATE
Sun 12 Jun 2022
VENUE
Musgrave Park
TIME
5 15 AM

bit of an early start there, is there floodlights in Musgrave?

Probably be daylight at that time anyway.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:33:13 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Horgan will be Horgan on the free's but he's not an out and out ball winner and would trust G Walsh to do a good job from play. My worries would be the likes of Shane Kingston in the corner against our Corner backs. Also cullinane and Harneady have found some form.

Lehane?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 12:39:53 PM
I would have prefered wexford here but how we played in the second half last saturday I am hoping works in our favour as we know we really need to tighten up. We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2022, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 09, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Horgan will be Horgan on the free's but he's not an out and out ball winner and would trust G Walsh to do a good job from play. My worries would be the likes of Shane Kingston in the corner against our Corner backs. Also cullinane and Harneady have found some form.

lehane would be the main issue. We're up against it here but nothing to lose I guess.

Sorry I meant lehane not cullanane
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

So what are you saying the issue is then? id love to hear your thoughts, because after 20 years at this I could do with your input. You are not even comparing apples with apples. You already pointed to one of the the answers -more GAA people in East Tyrone.

We have a good senior team too when at full strength.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

Was 'at' the Dungannon game last night, Sarsfields were well understrength from what I could see but the Tyrone lads could give everyone in that league a game, they have 32 or 42 (can't remember) in a panel of seniors!! some going, just more difficult to get them all together !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 01:25:09 PM
Yeah as I said, should be winning that division only for county
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

Was 'at' the Dungannon game last night, Sarsfields were well understrength from what I could see but the Tyrone lads could give everyone in that league a game, they have 32 or 42 (can't remember) in a panel of seniors!! some going, just more difficult to get them all together !

Eoghan Rua had a great wee U14 team the last time the Feile was in Ulster, I think they won Div2 by beating Clonlara from Clare who were staying with us in the final.
Those lads would be early 20's now if they're still at it.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

So what are you saying the issue is then? id love to hear your thoughts, because after 20 years at this I could do with your input. You are not even comparing apples with apples. You already pointed to one of the the answers -more GAA people in East Tyrone.

We have a good senior team too when at full strength.

Just making the comparsion - Dungannon have a smaller population but have worked hatd in a very strong gaelic football area.  That's a fair comment.

How that isn't comparing apples with apples?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2022, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

Was 'at' the Dungannon game last night, Sarsfields were well understrength from what I could see but the Tyrone lads could give everyone in that league a game, they have 32 or 42 (can't remember) in a panel of seniors!! some going, just more difficult to get them all together !

Be great to see Dungannon in Div. 1 in Antrim. They should be strong now with the county set up over.  Players be fit to hit the ground running.

Big step up but would be some achievement for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 04:46:57 PM
So if you think back did they not get beat on penalties by St Endas when they got into division 1?

You look as well and I don't know exact details - but how many Tyrone players does a club like that have? That surely hits on their ability to get promoted? (Though maybe it is early enough it can be recovered). It is highly unlikely any other lower division team would be as impacted by county player loss.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 04:46:57 PM
So if you think back did they not get beat on penalties by St Endas when they got into division 1?

You look as well and I don't know exact details - but how many Tyrone players does a club like that have? That surely hits on their ability to get promoted? (Though maybe it is early enough it can be recovered). It is highly unlikely any other lower division team would be as impacted by county player loss.

Bredagh have a few and Carryduff have one, Beatty, I think from the Down perspective.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 09, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 09:37:12 AM
The carey one still a strange one with them being at home and anything I have seen I *thought* they were winning all round them. Ballygalget Dunloy too in Dunloy but I guess Dunloy missing county boys. (no offense JC lol)

big win for us alright, but I'd have thought even without their county players Dunloy would have had enough strength in depth to account for us.

In saying that we are improving, very young team at the minute, well over half the team would be under 22 years of age, the keeper would be by far the oldest, but he's keeping that position warm for his nephew for a few years yet.

Another couple of very handy hurlers coming up through the minor ranks will hopefully bolster the team as we try to get back to being competitive in this league.

Thats great to hear, are yous finding it hard to keep young lads at home, that and shitty part time jobs causing us nightmares

Have yous not a pick of all of Derry city and into Donegal?

Don't see how you should struggle for numbers.

Will Antrim get within 10 points of Cork this week-end?  Tight confines should help.  Not sure what weather conditions will be but game V Kerry should have helped them. 

Cork haven't played competitively in a few weeks.  I wonder will Kingston start Horgan?  He could lose a good few sliotars around the Whiterock Road with his striking, if he starts.

You can only "pick" from people who play the sport. We dont have anyone from Donegal atm unfortunately, wish we had, although we have Derry city players playing in Donegal. We are struggling because there is no hurling in the schools and we are still a relatively young club only now producing 2nd generation hurlers. Soccer and Gaelic football are the main sports and it is not like rural areas where there is not  as much going on to distract lads. Boys arent getting sorted out with jobs to keep them here like happens in other areas. Stuff we discussed on the apathy thread.

I don't buy the numbers thing in a city.

Look at the Dungannon model - big enough area (but not as big population wise as Derry and a heap of football clubs in the same area.  Incidentally a higher level of football than around Derry city.

They have a good senior team and serious numbers at underage.

So what are you saying the issue is then? id love to hear your thoughts, because after 20 years at this I could do with your input. You are not even comparing apples with apples. You already pointed to one of the the answers -more GAA people in East Tyrone.

We have a good senior team too when at full strength.

Just making the comparsion - Dungannon have a smaller population but have worked hatd in a very strong gaelic football area.  That's a fair comment.

How that isn't comparing apples with apples?

Not sure what to add. You started out by saying we were basically not doing well with catchment, I gave reasons and asked for ideas and reasons why Dungannon do better(going a lot longer than us also). Leave it at that, its an Antrim thread and I dont want to pollute it although its my favourite thread because its real genuine hurling folk.

Happy to talk about Antrim league(been great for us over years) even though a nightmare travel wise. If you look at scores last night in Div 3 all travelling teams lost by 13-16 points avg.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 09, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2022, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2022, 04:46:57 PM
So if you think back did they not get beat on penalties by St Endas when they got into division 1?

You look as well and I don't know exact details - but how many Tyrone players does a club like that have? That surely hits on their ability to get promoted? (Though maybe it is early enough it can be recovered). It is highly unlikely any other lower division team would be as impacted by county player loss.

Bredagh have a few and Carryduff have one, Beatty, I think from the Down perspective.

We have 3 and only starting to come back now-none played last night
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 10, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

After seeing the picture of the AI series launch without Antrim or Kerry representation I truly hope Antrim and or Kerry get one over on these playoffs.

Disgusting that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 10, 2022, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 10, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

After seeing the picture of the AI series launch without Antrim or Kerry representation I truly hope Antrim and or Kerry get one over on these playoffs.

Disgusting that.

A complete own goal.... Like marketing at Croke Park must not have an ounce of wit..

Tea boy "what's the brief boss?" head of marketing "Get me the remaining teams left in the McCarthy cup" tea boy "on it" f**king shit show
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 10, 2022, 08:57:54 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 10, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

After seeing the picture of the AI series launch without Antrim or Kerry representation I truly hope Antrim and or Kerry get one over on these playoffs.

Disgusting that.

So disrespectful
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on June 10, 2022, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

Only for the "South Terrace" - that's the car park if anyone doesn't know the ground

But I suppose it's better than missing the match
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2022, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on June 10, 2022, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

Only for the "South Terrace" - that's the car park if anyone doesn't know the ground

But I suppose it's better than missing the match

And North Terrace last night, maybe gone now. I thought you could maybe move about anyway? Outside of the stand
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on June 10, 2022, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 10, 2022, 08:57:54 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 10, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
There are still tickets for Saturdays match on Ticketmaster if anyone thought they missed out

After seeing the picture of the AI series launch without Antrim or Kerry representation I truly hope Antrim and or Kerry get one over on these playoffs.

Disgusting that.

So disrespectful

Really shocking by the powers that be.

I brought my kids to the Joe McDonagh final last week for their first outing at Croke park and promised to bring them to the shop at the premium level to get them some kit. When I went in, they only had Galway and Kilkenny gear on display. The poor lad behind the counter incurred my wrath..



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
These wides will be our downfall come the end... I've counted 5 poor misses
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: themac_23 on June 11, 2022, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
These wides will be our downfall come the end... I've counted 5 poor misses

We're playing well here, Cork look like they believed the media disregard for us and Kerry during the week and come up here to go through the motions, hard to step it up when that creeps in. I think we can do it here, that score at half time to go in in front will be massive boost for us, please please no repeat of last weeks 2nd half
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 11, 2022, 02:42:46 PM
Cork have a big wind advantage 2nd half.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 02:54:17 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on June 11, 2022, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 02:27:04 PM
These wides will be our downfall come the end... I've counted 5 poor misses

We're playing well here, Cork look like they believed the media disregard for us and Kerry during the week and come up here to go through the motions, hard to step it up when that creeps in. I think we can do it here, that score at half time to go in in front will be massive boost for us, please please no repeat of last weeks 2nd half

We played better against the wind last week, so I'll take that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 05:26:30 PM
I suppose as we expected Cork were able to get their scores easier & when they needed them, in the second half. Players couldn't be faulted, kept at it but just found the scores too hard to come by in second half (only scored 0-8)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 11, 2022, 05:18:53 PM
Very proud! I thought we were unlucky. The ref gave us nothing.

You don't get things from the ref, you earn them.. didn't see much wrong with the ref that said I'd love to know, their penalty was the Cork lad inside the rectangle?

said earlier we missed 5 handy ones in the first half. Second half very scrappy and they got their scores easier, some handling errors two, they got a goal and a point from us first half, losing easy possession and turned over.

Second half we played well enough but not pretty
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 11, 2022, 05:47:20 PM
Played good but second half should have tried playing through the lines more, game really opened up for cork last 15 minutes. I'm putting some of that down to us having a tough game last week and they are well rested. We just blew up
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 11, 2022, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 11, 2022, 05:52:15 PM
Cork got the scare of their lives today. I think over the 70 minutes we deserved to win. Absolute joke we weren't at the launch during the week.

Lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: gallsman on June 11, 2022, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 11, 2022, 05:52:15 PM
Cork got the scare of their lives today. I think over the 70 minutes we deserved to win. Absolute joke we weren't at the launch during the week.

What are you smoking ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2022, 07:10:47 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on June 11, 2022, 09:14:03 PM
Overall Antrim played well, much better than I expected. Of course as is always the way in championship hurling weakness were exploited. Our full back line, in particular our corner backs have been poor all year. Out the field Mickey Bradley at midfield struggled, Ciaran Clarke at centre forward didn't get into the game and personally I thought Mcmanus and big Domhnall both struggled to get into the game, although Mc Manus's sideline was superb. Now onto the positives, Keelan Molloy, Eoin Campbell and James McNaughton were superb, better than anything Cork had to offer.
Overall 2022 has been a good year. Division 1 retained, Joe McDonagh won and a competitive performance in the All Ireland series.
Darren Gleeson deserves huge credit for all he has done, I doubted him before he took the reins but I was wrong and so were a lot of other people.
Next year we have 5 Division 1 matches and 5 Leinster championship matches to look forward to. We have a competitive team for the first time in about 15 years and that is something we should all embrace and enjoy
The good times don't last long, lets make the best of them and enjoy them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 11, 2022, 09:27:29 PM
Must be mentioned that there was a very strong breeze there today.  Antrim used it well in the first half.

Cork took over in the second half.  Still hard to work Cork out in fairness. Could open up and give somebody a pasting or could just get over the line - hard to know about them.

They kept persisting with the short puck out in the second half when they had a strong breeze although they run into trouble with it at times.  Maybe they've just sticking with it as that's they're plan regardles, when they get to the next game.

Stick to the process as they say but it just needs refined a bit. And they have time to do it. As they hadn't played for a while, they'll be happy to get the competitive game.

Antrim's year is a happy one - decent league, Joe Mc Donagh and all set for next year.  Need another player or two.

Mc Naughton is very good. Build a team around him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.

Didn't stop 'The Rock'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.

Didn't stop 'The Rock'

Was he not more built than fat
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.

Didn't stop 'The Rock'

Was he not more built than fat

He was an it was 20 years ago
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.

Didn't stop 'The Rock'

Was he not more built than fat

He was an it was 20 years ago

Yeah different era, different game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

Ye mind Big Corkery ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:55:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 12, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 11, 2022, 10:17:39 PM
Far too many wides in the first half, boys struggled judging the wind but cork didnt have any problems with it second half.

Ref was poor, cork were throwing constantly, the penalty they got was outside, could go on.
One thing the difference between the sides is conditioning, night and day between Antrim and the premier counties, we are busted at times too early in the games.

Enjoyed watching the games at corrigan and the day out at croke, hopefully more to follow.

Really noticeable - one or two lads side, Cork very clearly bigger, stronger, faster.

Couple belies there
Mad, how do ya have a belly with that amount of training and playing county level.

Didn't stop 'The Rock'

Was he not more built than fat

He was an it was 20 years ago

Yeah different era, different game

Didn't bring that up and they managed some all Irelands too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

Ye mind Big Corkery ?

Different time though. So much talent but not sure he would fit in modern game. I guess best modern day example Quigleys. Not many equivalents in the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

They are as leggy/pacey as any of the teams though. And I'm not 100% sure you can train that in players that don't have it, Cork have great running power. Lost count of the numner of times a Cork player took 3 steps and was away from his man yesterday.

Their problem is getting turned over in the tackle & getting over elaborate with the short stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: groundlie on June 12, 2022, 07:47:13 PM
Cork were poor we played at our maximum. McNaughton a real clinker. Our defense is weak. We have some nice ball players. Focus needs to go on underage.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 12, 2022, 08:02:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

Ye mind Big Corkery ?

Different time though. So much talent but not sure he would fit in modern game. I guess best modern day example Quigleys. Not many equivalents in the hurling.

Big Domhnall Nugent?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 12, 2022, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

They are as leggy/pacey as any of the teams though. And I'm not 100% sure you can train that in players that don't have it, Cork have great running power. Lost count of the numner of times a Cork player took 3 steps and was away from his man yesterday.

Their problem is getting turned over in the tackle & getting over elaborate with the short stuff

Yeah, they have pace, which will suit well in Thurles and CP.

Will Cork beat Galway? I give them a real good chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on June 12, 2022, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 12, 2022, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 12, 2022, 07:03:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:53:11 PM
One of the best engines on that team looks like he has a belly but there are many far lighter than him that can't cover as much ground.

Cork aren't s physical as some of the munster ones either but we have definitely improved on the physicality stakes.

They are as leggy/pacey as any of the teams though. And I'm not 100% sure you can train that in players that don't have it, Cork have great running power. Lost count of the numner of times a Cork player took 3 steps and was away from his man yesterday.

Their problem is getting turned over in the tackle & getting over elaborate with the short stuff

Yeah, they have pace, which will suit well in Thurles and CP.

Will Cork beat Galway? I give them a real good chance.
I fancy cork to beat galway.

Talking about conditioning etc its quite clear fitness is an issue, as games wear on we do seem to slow down quite a bit, seen it in croke against kerry, yesterday we lead by a point at ht but didnt get going at all 2nd half.

It was also noticeable cork were first to every breaking ball, and also passed antrim players with a few short paces, dont get me wrong Antrim have done well this year, maintained division 1 status, won the joe mcdonagh, played cork in a prelim quarter final but i hope we can make the next step.

You lads know more than me, any minors that now need to step up on merit?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 08:35:53 PM
Biggest problem we have is throwing minors onto senior teams after they finish juvenile. S&C wouldn't be close as they are at 17 years old, we've plenty on panel and actually still other players from the Johnnies and Rossa who'd add to that panel, I'm sure there are other country lads that would make it.

Some from the college teams i've ref'd this year also should be pushing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.

There is definitely something in that, we cant seem to change mid stream. However I think the biggest factor is the 6 day turn around. Antrim and Kerry were set up to fail in this system, I dont care who you are you cant play a final and then be ready to hit even higher levels within 6 days.

You take in recovery and then a tactical plan which would have been completely different for Cork than Kerry etc

If they are wanting to get Antrim Kerry or whoever to competitive levels these are the types of things that need addressed, but in that respect do they actually want these teams to be competitive because year on year the apathy shown is obvious.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.

There is definitely something in that, we cant seem to change mid stream. However I think the biggest factor is the 6 day turn around. Antrim and Kerry were set up to fail in this system, I dont care who you are you cant play a final and then be ready to hit even higher levels within 6 days.

You take in recovery and then a tactical plan which would have been completely different for Cork than Kerry etc

If they are wanting to get Antrim Kerry or whoever to competitive levels these are the types of things that need addressed, but in that respect do they actually want these teams to be competitive because year on year the apathy shown is obvious.

They have done the same in football also with the quick turn around of games in the qualifiers, there seems to be a rush to get the games done and out of the way.. I actually didnt realise to late on that we'd be entered into the McCarthy cup this year.. I thought winning it would have given us entry next year..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
Would Gleeson be in the running for the Tipp job if Bonnar steps away from the Tipp role?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
Would Gleeson be in the running for the Tipp job if Bonnar steps away from the Tipp role?

Doubt it, his conviction might work against him at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 14, 2022, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
Would Gleeson be in the running for the Tipp job if Bonnar steps away from the Tipp role?

Doubt it, his conviction might work against him at home.

Im sure I heard he went for the Tipp minor job last year and didn't get it, so that wouldn't be a good sign
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 09:49:39 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:49 AM
Would Gleeson be in the running for the Tipp job if Bonnar steps away from the Tipp role?

Doubt it, his conviction might work against him at home.

You reckon? I'd say time would be a healer and all that.

Travel be sore on him I'd say.

I think he'd do a good job with Tipp and be a good fit for them.  Outwith Cahill (and his star has nosedived this past 6 weeks), who else is there.

In saying that, all speculation as Bonnar will probably take another near to set his stall out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2022, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.

There is definitely something in that, we cant seem to change mid stream. However I think the biggest factor is the 6 day turn around. Antrim and Kerry were set up to fail in this system, I dont care who you are you cant play a final and then be ready to hit even higher levels within 6 days.

You take in recovery and then a tactical plan which would have been completely different for Cork than Kerry etc

If they are wanting to get Antrim Kerry or whoever to competitive levels these are the types of things that need addressed, but in that respect do they actually want these teams to be competitive because year on year the apathy shown is obvious.

They have done the same in football also with the quick turn around of games in the qualifiers, there seems to be a rush to get the games done and out of the way.. I actually didnt realise to late on that we'd be entered into the McCarthy cup this year.. I thought winning it would have given us entry next year..
There's no better foundation than getting them strong healthy and happy at their work, if any part is missing then we can't expect results. Just a personal hunch but can a team be over coached and are we seeing it more and more, club level also??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 11:23:20 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 14, 2022, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.

There is definitely something in that, we cant seem to change mid stream. However I think the biggest factor is the 6 day turn around. Antrim and Kerry were set up to fail in this system, I dont care who you are you cant play a final and then be ready to hit even higher levels within 6 days.

You take in recovery and then a tactical plan which would have been completely different for Cork than Kerry etc

If they are wanting to get Antrim Kerry or whoever to competitive levels these are the types of things that need addressed, but in that respect do they actually want these teams to be competitive because year on year the apathy shown is obvious.

They have done the same in football also with the quick turn around of games in the qualifiers, there seems to be a rush to get the games done and out of the way.. I actually didnt realise to late on that we'd be entered into the McCarthy cup this year.. I thought winning it would have given us entry next year..
There's no better foundation than getting them strong healthy and happy at their work, if any part is missing then we can't expect results. Just a personal hunch but can a team be over coached and are we seeing it more and more, club level also??

Over coached in terms of rigid game play?

If that is what you are saying then i'd agree, and if you'd read any of Jim Gavins stuff since he left the Dublin job he's of the opinion that coaching is to allow the players on the field to make the right decisions for that time and all scenarios a player will face can never be truly covered in tactics so empower the players to "embrace the chaos" are the next buzz words out there.

Decision making is taken out of the hands of the players in an over-coached team and some of the best players ever were off the cuff types, but you can see lads struggle in certain systems as it's unnatural to them, Austin Gleeson is the most obvious at the minute.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 11:23:20 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 14, 2022, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:00:35 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: Last Man on June 13, 2022, 03:13:03 PM
Chatting to and looking at our lads on the panel there has been a pile of work done on the S&C side but my impression is that we are still lacking the mentality to adapt on the hoof, if our game plan is working then its all good but as soon as we are unpicked we struggle to pivot to another approach, might there be a clue in Glesson bemoaning the loss of Maor Foirne. How we develop leadership, cuteness and autonomy is the key for me.

There is definitely something in that, we cant seem to change mid stream. However I think the biggest factor is the 6 day turn around. Antrim and Kerry were set up to fail in this system, I dont care who you are you cant play a final and then be ready to hit even higher levels within 6 days.

You take in recovery and then a tactical plan which would have been completely different for Cork than Kerry etc

If they are wanting to get Antrim Kerry or whoever to competitive levels these are the types of things that need addressed, but in that respect do they actually want these teams to be competitive because year on year the apathy shown is obvious.

They have done the same in football also with the quick turn around of games in the qualifiers, there seems to be a rush to get the games done and out of the way.. I actually didnt realise to late on that we'd be entered into the McCarthy cup this year.. I thought winning it would have given us entry next year..
There's no better foundation than getting them strong healthy and happy at their work, if any part is missing then we can't expect results. Just a personal hunch but can a team be over coached and are we seeing it more and more, club level also??

Over coached in terms of rigid game play?

If that is what you are saying then i'd agree, and if you'd read any of Jim Gavins stuff since he left the Dublin job he's of the opinion that coaching is to allow the players on the field to make the right decisions for that time and all scenarios a player will face can never be truly covered in tactics so empower the players to "embrace the chaos" are the next buzz words out there.

Decision making is taken out of the hands of the players in an over-coached team and some of the best players ever were off the cuff types, but you can see lads struggle in certain systems as it's unnatural to them, Austin Gleeson is the most obvious at the minute.

I agree to a certain extent but the likes of TK and Cian Lynch buck that trend.

Lynch, especially, at times, looks as if he's doing some of them flicks/tricks at training.  Great that he hasn't been overcoached and nobody is giving out to him for trying and doing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Last Man on June 14, 2022, 11:49:38 AM
Yes they appear to be given the latitude to play with that sort of abandon and it's a joy to behold. I get the impression we are holding some of players back because we can afford to take the chance it might not work. I do believe we have similar characters who struggle with our rigid tactics.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on June 14, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: Last Man on June 14, 2022, 11:49:38 AM
Yes they appear to be given the latitude to play with that sort of abandon and it's a joy to behold. I get the impression we are holding some of players back because we can afford to take the chance it might not work. I do believe we have similar characters who struggle with our rigid tactics.

Lynch and TJ are once in a generation players, they dont need to be coached and luckily they have worked with managers who have recognised this and let them at it.

But you better believe the other 14 players are drilled to within an inch of their life to the tactical systems employed by their teams.

We just are short a few more players and consistently playing at this level week in week out to get up to that speed of play for 80 minutes. That is why we drop off at points in the game, just not used to the intensity over that period of time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 14, 2022, 06:15:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.

I would tend to agree, it's not as if Antrim had a totally hectic schedule, Kerry round Robin was two weeks before the final, and players were rested for that game. I think a week is fine, especially when you are at home.

Munster championship games were all played with a weeks break
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

But them lads weren't in the gym twice a week. They were naturally fit lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 10:00:15 PM
Yeah fair points I can't disagree. However, it's basically an all Ireland and I think it would be fitting of the GAA to allow both teams a 2 week period to prepare.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 15, 2022, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 14, 2022, 06:15:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.

I would tend to agree, it's not as if Antrim had a totally hectic schedule, Kerry round Robin was two weeks before the final, and players were rested for that game. I think a week is fine, especially when you are at home.

Munster championship games were all played with a weeks break

Munster (and Leinster) teams played two weeks on the bounce and then a free weekend in between.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

We still have this is my club. "Recovery days" usually involve lifting concrete blocks and shoveling sand and cement into the mixer.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 15, 2022, 11:36:45 PM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

We still have this is my club. "Recovery days" usually involve lifting concrete blocks and shoveling sand and cement into the mixer.
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Hardy boys!

No core work needed with them lads.]
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 16, 2022, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

We still have this is my club. "Recovery days" usually involve lifting concrete blocks and shoveling sand and cement into the mixer.

Laboured on sites for brickies during my student days, never as fit in my life and there were no telehandlers then as is now, the soft shítes...



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 16, 2022, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

We still have this is my club. "Recovery days" usually involve lifting concrete blocks and shoveling sand and cement into the mixer.

Laboured on sites for brickies during my student days, never as fit in my life and there were no telehandlers then as is now, the soft shítes...

Was in between jobs and my da was not having me lay around the house, so he took me out to labour for him on the building sites, christ that was an eyeopener for me with regards to heavy labour, but as you say, I was never as strong as that again, I enjoyed the craic at the time but after about 10 months I went back to engineering, the soft touch!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on June 16, 2022, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 16, 2022, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: ck on June 15, 2022, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 14, 2022, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: groundlie on June 14, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Antrim and Kerry should both have been allowed 2 weeks to prepare for the preliminary qualifying games. 6 days is an absolute joke. Yes momentum etc etc but the Joe McDonagh final was played on a big field, on a warm day and was very competitive. It would definitely have taken a lot out of the players. Next year start the season a week earlier and if its Offaly and Laois in the preliminary games give them 2 weeks to prepare. One thinks the GAA see these lower tier competitions was a nuisance.

I think a week is fine. Just rest and recovery that week.

Get tactics and match ups sorted etc.

Wexford and Cork have to do the same this week.
In the old days you'd have brickies and farmers on squads where a week of rest would be impossible.

We still have this is my club. "Recovery days" usually involve lifting concrete blocks and shoveling sand and cement into the mixer.

Laboured on sites for brickies during my student days, never as fit in my life and there were no telehandlers then as is now, the soft shítes...

Couldn't agree more. We have a man who comes in to do weights with out senior team and he's on record as saying those who labour are much less likely to get injured than those who sit at a desk or drive every day. It's playing out that way as most all of our injured players at the moment are students and 9-5ers. The labourers are all fit and well and hurling away.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
Tragic news on hearing Casey's untimely death last night.. have ref'd him few times and was looking forward to the fixture they played after their all Ireland win when they up against Sarsfields at the bear pit.

Both teams were missing players, but speaking to the Dungannon manager they had few that were away the weekend before at a stag weekend (probably for this wedding) but they were in good form from the win at Croke park, was keen to congratulate the players for not only their win but managing to put up with CJ  ;)..

Casey was the standout player that night and got the usual close attention you get from the Paddies when you're half decent. Tagged on a goal and a rake of points that night..

Plenty potential to grow into an even better player and drive Tyrone and his club on, dark times for his family friends and his club
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on June 18, 2022, 06:02:02 PM
I heard the games tomorrow are called off, any truth?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 18, 2022, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on June 18, 2022, 06:02:02 PM
I heard the games tomorrow are called off, any truth?

Heard nothing yet
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thegooch13 on June 20, 2022, 01:02:21 PM
some young lad coyles put in a serious shift for armoy the other day, has to be in for a shout for the county next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 21, 2022, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: thegooch13 on June 20, 2022, 01:02:21 PM
some young lad coyles put in a serious shift for armoy the other day, has to be in for a shout for the county next year

Relative is he?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: old timers on June 21, 2022, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2022, 12:18:58 PM
Tragic news on hearing Casey's untimely death last night.. have ref'd him few times and was looking forward to the fixture they played after their all Ireland win when they up against Sarsfields at the bear pit.

Both teams were missing players, but speaking to the Dungannon manager they had few that were away the weekend before at a stag weekend (probably for this wedding) but they were in good form from the win at Croke park, was keen to congratulate the players for not only their win but managing to put up with CJ  ;)..

Casey was the standout player that night and got the usual close attention you get from the Paddies when you're half decent. Tagged on a goal and a rake of points that night..

Plenty potential to grow into an even better player and drive Tyrone and his club on, dark times for his family friends and his club

Casey was the standout player wherever he was -  what a loss to club and county -  massive void in so many lives and terrible times ahead for his poor parents and sisters - taken way too soon
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2022, 03:50:52 PM
Not much talk about camogie here but be great to see us beat limerick tomorrow and get into the knockout stages of the seniors. Not going to be easy I am sure but looks achievable.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2022, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 01, 2022, 03:50:52 PM
Not much talk about camogie here but be great to see us beat limerick tomorrow and get into the knockout stages of the seniors. Not going to be easy I am sure but looks achievable.

Limerick just about beat Down last week I think, they ain't as strong as their men
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2022, 11:00:27 AM
I think Offaly maybe beat limerick and we beat Offaly well so definitely in with a chance.

I saw a tweet from Neil McManus last night on a young loughgiel hurler Jack mccloskey and how he was one to watch out for. Just read the saffron Gael report on the darragh cup and there are some plaudits for him. 3-14 from 3-18 in a tight game too. Must have been some performance. Not a name I know but hopefully a bright future.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on July 02, 2022, 11:08:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 02, 2022, 11:00:27 AM
I think Offaly maybe beat limerick and we beat Offaly well so definitely in with a chance.

I saw a tweet from Neil McManus last night on a young loughgiel hurler Jack mccloskey and how he was one to watch out for. Just read the saffron Gael report on the darragh cup and there are some plaudits for him. 3-14 from 3-18 in a tight game too. Must have been some performance. Not a name I know but hopefully a bright future.

He would be well enough known in underage circles. Roadstones (Eoin McCloskey) son, as good as I have seen in a while at that age and still only about 16 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2022, 11:12:48 AM
Is darragh cup under 17 ? I assume so?

Eoin was very good as were the brothers too so a bit of pedigree in there. There are a few mccloskeys appearing in loughgiel senior teams who I assumed were offspring.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on July 02, 2022, 05:07:07 PM
It was one of the best performances I've ever saw from a Juvenile.

Pity about some of Shamrock supporters. They really never learn to shut up even when they are winning.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on July 10, 2022, 10:04:43 PM
Lads. At the end of the League, if teams are tied on the same points, how does CCC determine who finishes ahead of the other, is it on head to head 1st?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on July 10, 2022, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on July 10, 2022, 10:04:43 PM
Lads. At the end of the League, if teams are tied on the same points, how does CCC determine who finishes ahead of the other, is it on head to head 1st?
Head to Head , if the head to head is tied , it goes to score difference in the games between the teams, then overall scores for , if still tied - a play off game !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on July 11, 2022, 12:25:41 AM
Cheers Delgany!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on July 13, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
Can anyone confirm what way relegation is setup this year?

With no relegations last year but still promotions does it mean 2 teams go down this year? Or is there still playoffs with 2nd and 2nd bottom is the leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2022, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: saffman on July 13, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
Can anyone confirm what way relegation is setup this year?

With no relegations last year but still promotions does it mean 2 teams go down this year? Or is there still playoffs with 2nd and 2nd bottom is the leagues?

In Div 1(B) I was told that the bottom team goes down automatically with the second bottom team going into a playoff with the second team in Div2(a), is that not correct?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on July 13, 2022, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 13, 2022, 12:12:29 PM
Quote from: saffman on July 13, 2022, 11:50:40 AM
Can anyone confirm what way relegation is setup this year?

With no relegations last year but still promotions does it mean 2 teams go down this year? Or is there still playoffs with 2nd and 2nd bottom is the leagues?

In Div 1(B) I was told that the bottom team goes down automatically with the second bottom team going into a playoff with the second team in Div2(a), is that not correct?

That is 100% correct
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 12:58:32 PM
Anyone know if its head to head or points differnce. Davitts conceding to us tonight, crap one, we travelled there with 14 men
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2022, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 12:58:32 PM
Anyone know if its head to head or points differnce. Davitts conceding to us tonight, crap one, we travelled there with 14 men

Phew... I was asked if I could go there tonight!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on July 13, 2022, 01:56:21 PM
I think if teams concede then points difference can no longer be used and goes to head to head. It isn't but in my opinions conceding should be -1 point.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on July 13, 2022, 01:56:45 PM
Thanks for confirming folks!

1(b) cushendun are confirmed bottom.
Who will come 2nd bottom? Endas/ballygalget?

2(a) what way do people see that shaping up?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 13, 2022, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 12:58:32 PM
Anyone know if its head to head or points differnce. Davitts conceding to us tonight, crap one, we travelled there with 14 men

Phew... I was asked if I could go there tonight!!

Lol, youm would have got an egg and onion sandwich
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on July 13, 2022, 01:56:21 PM
I think if teams concede then points difference can no longer be used and goes to head to head. It isn't but in my opinions conceding should be -1 point.

Davitts are down anyhow, but that puts us on equal points second from bottom with Rasharkin(we have beat them home and away though) but they have better score difference which is why tonight's game might(not sure) been important to us. We only had near full team out last week for first time .

Other years it was head to head, but id say do anything to make it hard for us lol. Rasharkin convinced we stay up without playoff as we beat them twice
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: saffman on July 13, 2022, 01:56:45 PM
Thanks for confirming folks!

1(b) cushendun are confirmed bottom.
Who will come 2nd bottom? Endas/ballygalget?

2(a) what way do people see that shaping up?

We'd need to pick up points at home to either Ballycastle or the Crans OR Beat St Enda's away and whilst some injuries are clearing up we've done nothing to suggest we'll get anymore points and St Enda's may pick up more to leapfrog us.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on July 13, 2022, 02:58:16 PM
Endas should, on paper pick up 2 pts away to cushendun tonight

Could be a good final game of the season to see who falls into that playoff position

Could we see any div 2 teams troubling either team to make the jump to Div 1?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on July 13, 2022, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on July 13, 2022, 01:56:21 PM
I think if teams concede then points difference can no longer be used and goes to head to head. It isn't but in my opinions conceding should be -1 point.

Davitts are down anyhow, but that puts us on equal points second from bottom with Rasharkin(we have beat them home and away though) but they have better score difference which is why tonight's game might(not sure) been important to us. We only had near full team out last week for first time .

Other years it was head to head, but id say do anything to make it hard for us lol. Rasharkin convinced we stay up without playoff as we beat them twice
Head to Head , if the head to head is tied , it goes to score difference in the games between the teams, then overall scores for , if still tied - a play off game !

You' ll be okay on head to head
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: delgany on July 13, 2022, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 13, 2022, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on July 13, 2022, 01:56:21 PM
I think if teams concede then points difference can no longer be used and goes to head to head. It isn't but in my opinions conceding should be -1 point.

Davitts are down anyhow, but that puts us on equal points second from bottom with Rasharkin(we have beat them home and away though) but they have better score difference which is why tonight's game might(not sure) been important to us. We only had near full team out last week for first time .

Other years it was head to head, but id say do anything to make it hard for us lol. Rasharkin convinced we stay up without playoff as we beat them twice
Head to Head , if the head to head is tied , it goes to score difference in the games between the teams, then overall scores for , if still tied - a play off game !

You' ll be okay on head to head

Thanks Delgany
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 14, 2022, 12:33:50 PM
Just reading the saffron gael report, nice touch from St galls before their game last night.
Puts sport into perspective too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on July 14, 2022, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 14, 2022, 12:33:50 PM
Just reading the saffron gael report, nice touch from St galls before their game last night.
Puts sport into perspective too
Very true, and yes it was a classy move by St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrollysArmy on July 17, 2022, 04:18:07 AM
As a footballer it was great to see our hurlers beat LMGs today in a great game of hurling! The ref was great today, I know we talk about the standard of refs but he kept it all in check today! I'd say a few of our boys could do with a chance to train with the county team!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2022, 08:54:38 AM
Was speaking to a clubman who was up at the game and said young McCaff had a great game, took no shot either.. great to see and a surprising result?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

Don't see it on the Antrim website....

Ports complaining that their game vrs St Johns has been reversed to Corrigan park, but I'm assuming that's due to them not having a referee in Antrim..

If they win that they'll win the league.

In the meantime we're over in Glengormley in a relegation decider, but with half the team injured or on holiday it doesn't bode well.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on July 27, 2022, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Could they not player 3 or 4 of their seniors and fringe/reserve players the rest?

Give lads a game and then you'll know who can cut the mustard. Gives manager a chance to say, come championship time, well you had a chance recently and you're not at the level yet.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

When was the last time a Down team won the league? been a while, probably Ports again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

When was the last time a Down team won the league? been a while, probably Ports again
I read in the Saffron Gael that the Ports last won it 20 years ago, not sure about the other two teams.
I am also reading that Creggan are not fielding against  Carey tonight so Carey are promoted. Seem to be a few football teams not fielding saving players the football championship at the weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

When was the last time a Down team won the league? been a while, probably Ports again
I read in the Saffron Gael that the Ports last won it 20 years ago, not sure about the other two teams.
I am also reading that Creggan are not fielding against  Carey tonight so Carey are promoted. Seem to be a few football teams not fielding saving players the football championship at the weekend.

20 years sounds about right, think they beat us in the league final in the old Casement..

Was talking to a Portaferry lad there now at lunch as they believe St Johns will be weak enough for the very reason you outlined about the football championship this weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

When was the last time a Down team won the league? been a while, probably Ports again
I read in the Saffron Gael that the Ports last won it 20 years ago, not sure about the other two teams.
I am also reading that Creggan are not fielding against  Carey tonight so Carey are promoted. Seem to be a few football teams not fielding saving players the football championship at the weekend.

20 years sounds about right, think they beat us in the league final in the old Casement..

Was talking to a Portaferry lad there now at lunch as they believe St Johns will be weak enough for the very reason you outlined about the football championship this weekend.

At least they are turning up  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 11:35:07 PM
Huge result for Naomh Brid's tonight, junior b winners.. fair play for such a new hurling club
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 28, 2022, 12:27:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 11:35:07 PM
Huge result for Naomh Brid's tonight, junior b winners.. fair play for such a new hurling club
As someone on Twiter said there won't be a client represented or a patient examined in South Belfast tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 07:45:15 AM
Some crowd for a junior b final. Good to see another club up and running with the hurling. The club has big numbers so hopefully should be able to sustain both.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2022, 08:41:56 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 07:45:15 AM
Some crowd for a junior b final. Good to see another club up and running with the hurling. The club has big numbers so hopefully should be able to sustain both.

They might surprise some teams in Junior A .. But as you say its great to see a 'traditional' football club take up the Caman
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 08:43:40 AM
At least they are turning up  ::)
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yeah i suppose Dunloy shouldve turned up to even tho they have 10+ dual players with championship on saturday, at least 4 first team players currently injured, lads on holidays and then you have 3 more out of the country. probably better to think before posting stupid comments
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2022, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 08:43:40 AM
At least they are turning up  ::)


yeah i suppose Dunloy shouldve turned up to even tho they have 10+ dual players with championship on saturday, at least 4 first team players currently injured, lads on holidays and then you have 3 more out of the country. probably better to think before posting stupid comments
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Ah right, so the likes of Sarsfileds, St Pauls St Galls Ahoghill the Johnnies and the rest that did play don't have the same issues? wise up
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on July 28, 2022, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 08:43:40 AM
At least they are turning up  ::)


yeah i suppose Dunloy shouldve turned up to even tho they have 10+ dual players with championship on saturday, at least 4 first team players currently injured, lads on holidays and then you have 3 more out of the country. probably better to think before posting stupid comments
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Cop out answer.

Loads of dual clubs about the place.

Plus Dunloy have more hurlers than any other team I'd reckon.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 10:49:25 AM
yeah id say plenty of them could field a team with the guts of 20 players unavailable for selection. Lgiel & cushendall can field 3 teams regularly were as dunloy prob 31/32 of a panel so naw they havnt more hurlers
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2022, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 10:49:25 AM
yeah id say plenty of them could field a team with the guts of 20 players unavailable for selection. Lgiel & cushendall can field 3 teams regularly were as dunloy prob 31/32 of a panel so naw they havnt more hurlers

The point is this, and you aint on your own, other clubs have done it and other clubs wished they could have rested players leading up to this football weekend, there is nothing to lose or win by putting out the reserves, in such end of season games..

We complain about fixtures and not enough games and so on and when we do have games some clubs don't play them, this isnt a new thing either..

I'd say Rossa is probably the worst team for having too many dual players, and possibly stopping them from competing for championships in either code
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

We tried to stop you down boys winning it but you went and did it anyway  ;D (Though I suspect you may have preferred an antrim team lol)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 28, 2022, 12:15:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 27, 2022, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: TheGeneral on July 27, 2022, 10:40:13 AM
Dunloy unable to field against Cushendall tonight? Rumours the match has been cancelled conceded.

10 days before the first championship match? Bit of cute hoorism going on in Dunloy. £300 fine for not fielding and move on. What happens if Portaferry and Cushendall end up level on points, as far as I know the head to head is one win each.How will score difference work if Cushendall haven't played all their matches?

Ports beat the Dall by 6 points whereas the Dall only won by 4 last week, so if it was using Down competition rules Ports would win it but you Antrim hoors can pull out obscure bylaws like some Harry Houdini when the need arises.  ;D

Ports are a point ahead going into tonight's game, so in theory anything other than a defeat will mean they take the title.

We tried to stop you down boys winning it but you went and did it anyway  ;D (Though I suspect you may have preferred an antrim team lol)

Glad they won it. They'll start believing their own hype. Pity we aren't even close enough to avail of the ability to catch them off guard...

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on July 28, 2022, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 08:43:40 AM
At least they are turning up  ::)


yeah i suppose Dunloy shouldve turned up to even tho they have 10+ dual players with championship on saturday, at least 4 first team players currently injured, lads on holidays and then you have 3 more out of the country. probably better to think before posting stupid comments
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You couldn't find 15 fit hurlers in Dunloy to field a team?

Nonsense

Put out 15 men of whatever standard and fulfil the fixture
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 12:45:41 PM
And what exactly would the point of that be?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2022, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 12:45:41 PM
And what exactly would the point of that be?

What's the point of entering the league then? Other teams would like to play their players in games, an agreement could have been met to play a lesser team on both sides to have a competitive game or just throw the lads in and see how they perform.. just not fielding should be looked at with a points deduction for following season.

I'd say most clubs have done this in the past and thats why it seems ok to some, but its not. My own club would have put out weaker teams or as has been highlighted by some here, only 13 players available for a 13 aside game at juvenile. Maybe our senior clubs could look at this option.

Look its done and all will be forgotten about come championship, only one show in town then, providing everyone is fit, not on hols, in the states, and raring to go
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on July 28, 2022, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: saffron123 on July 28, 2022, 12:45:41 PM
And what exactly would the point of that be?

Doing your duty to the other teams in the league (and your own players) and fulfilling a fixture you've agreed to play in

The clue was in the name really
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 28, 2022, 03:51:33 PM
I can't recall us ever  conceding a  senior game in Antrim . Glad to be allowed to play in it as guests

You don't enter unless you plan to play . We only have max 26 senior age hurlers from 18 up
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on July 29, 2022, 11:27:07 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 28, 2022, 03:51:33 PM
I can't recall us ever  conceding a  senior game in Antrim . Glad to be allowed to play in it as guests

You don't enter unless you plan to play . We only have max 26 senior age hurlers from 18 up

Same as us Fear.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Minder on July 29, 2022, 11:31:47 AM
Glenariffe played Carey a couple of weeks ago with 15 players and it was as big a gather up as I have ever seen for our club, a player had to come out of retirement to play, when another player (42 year old) got hurt a member of the management team had to come on for the last 10 mins
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2022, 11:52:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 29, 2022, 11:31:47 AM
Glenariffe played Carey a couple of weeks ago with 15 players and it was as big a gather up as I have ever seen for our club, a player had to come out of retirement to play, when another player (42 year old) got hurt a member of the management team had to come on for the last 10 mins

Love it!! I played when I was 48 for a gather up in St Endas, sure get them played and move on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 02, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
Championship time! Who wins?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 02, 2022, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 02, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
Championship time! Who wins?

Senior Dunloy
Intermediate Creggan
Junior Cloughmills
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 02, 2022, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 02, 2022, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 02, 2022, 03:10:17 PM
Championship time! Who wins?

Senior Dunloy
Intermediate Creggan
Junior Cloughmills

Senior :Cushendall, Last throw of the dice for some of them so they will take the opportunity, Dunloy messing about a lot so far (that may well change on Sunday), a year too early for Loughgiel, although they will go close.
Intermediate : Clooney Gaels, although this competition is like trying to pick the winner of the grand national
Junior: Glenarm, should have won it last year, won't make the same mistake twice
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2022, 07:31:44 PM
I fancy Cushendall also. Some lads won't have another crack at it and they'll wanna go out on a high. Clooney Gaels for IHC and Glenarm for Junior.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 02, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
Who are we talking here - McManus, Magill, Griffin? I imagine McManus has a few years in him yet. Not sure on the other two though graffin has had a very hard time with injuries.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 02, 2022, 09:17:29 PM
Magill and Graffin possibly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 03, 2022, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
Who are we talking here - McManus, Magill, Griffin? I imagine McManus has a few years in him yet. Not sure on the other two though graffin has had a very hard time with injuries.

What age would Carson be, early 30's?

Graffan living down Hilltown way, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2022, 10:02:50 AM
Carson would be early 30s I think. He hasn't been featuring as much in a while which is a big reason Cushendall not competing as much I think.

I think Graffin lives down there yeah.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 03, 2022, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 03, 2022, 10:02:50 AM
Carson would be early 30s I think. He hasn't been featuring as much in a while which is a big reason Cushendall not competing as much I think.

I think Graffin lives down there yeah.

Carson is an airline pilot so it wouldn't really be a great occupation for any sort of GAA participation
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BigSmoke123 on August 03, 2022, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
Who are we talking here - McManus, Magill, Griffin? I imagine McManus has a few years in him yet. Not sure on the other two though graffin has had a very hard time with injuries.

Paddy burke maybe in that category too?? he has a lot of miles in the tank
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: BigSmoke123 on August 03, 2022, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2022, 08:21:28 PM
Who are we talking here - McManus, Magill, Griffin? I imagine McManus has a few years in him yet. Not sure on the other two though graffin has had a very hard time with injuries.

Paddy burke maybe in that category too?? he has a lot of miles in the tank

Paddy Burke is only 27/28.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron71 on August 03, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
Folks I've just heard this evening that a well respected underage coach in North Antrim has stepped down from taking his club's U15 team due to a complaint being made to the club chairperson by a parent about their child being substituted.   Maybe there is more to it but it sounds disappointing from the parents point of view.  Almost like sour grapes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 03, 2022, 09:22:51 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 03, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
Folks I've just heard this evening that a well respected underage coach in North Antrim has stepped down from taking his club's U15 team due to a complaint being made to the club chairperson by a parent about their child being substituted.   Maybe there is more to it but it sounds disappointing from the parents point of view.  Almost like sour grapes.

Not uncommon
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 03, 2022, 10:09:25 PM
Do Loughgiel have James McNaughton back from America for championship. If so I fancy them win it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 03, 2022, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 03, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
Folks I've just heard this evening that a well respected underage coach in North Antrim has stepped down from taking his club's U15 team due to a complaint being made to the club chairperson by a parent about their child being substituted.   Maybe there is more to it but it sounds disappointing from the parents point of view.  Almost like sour grapes.

Who is this coach?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2022, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2022, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 03, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
Folks I've just heard this evening that a well respected underage coach in North Antrim has stepped down from taking his club's U15 team due to a complaint being made to the club chairperson by a parent about their child being substituted.   Maybe there is more to it but it sounds disappointing from the parents point of view.  Almost like sour grapes.

Who is this coach?

Who actually listens to a parent? This has to be a joke?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 03, 2022, 11:51:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2022, 11:47:32 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 03, 2022, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Saffron71 on August 03, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
Folks I've just heard this evening that a well respected underage coach in North Antrim has stepped down from taking his club's U15 team due to a complaint being made to the club chairperson by a parent about their child being substituted.   Maybe there is more to it but it sounds disappointing from the parents point of view.  Almost like sour grapes.

Who is this coach?

Who actually listens to a parent? This has to be a joke?

Executives
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron71 on August 04, 2022, 09:40:57 AM
Executives exactly.  From what I've heard,  the parent in question is a committee member within the club.  And I'm lead to believe that this parent has been trying to interfere with this coach's work throughout the year.  So maybe the coach in question has simply had enough of this and doesn't feel supported by the club's executive.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 04, 2022, 10:35:49 AM
I'd say there are a few parents who would be hard to work with.

Especially the ones who would stand behind the wire and wouldn't lift a cone.  They'd be the most vocal if wee Jimmy doesn't get a start in an underage tournament.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ciaran1988 on August 04, 2022, 12:46:30 PM
Championship Predictions

St Endas vs Cushendall - Cushendall by 7
Rossa vs Carey - Rossa 10 plus
Ballycastle vs Dunloy - Dunloy by 8
St Johns vs Loughgiel - Loughgiel by 4


Oisins vs Glenravel - Oisins by 8
St Galls vs Creggan - Creggan by 2
Cushendun vs St Paul's - Cushendun by 6
Tir na Og vs Gort na Mona - Tir na Og by 4

St Brigids vs Davitts - Davitts by 3
Ballymena vs Rasharkin - Ballymena by 2
Armoy vs Cloughmills - DRAW
Lamh Dhearg vs Glenarm - Glenarm by 10 plus




Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 04, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
Gleeson getting another 2 years with Antrim.

Good move by Antrim. Now he can sit back and watch the championship games and add to his panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
That's great news. I was worried he would move on. It will be a tough year next year mind you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
That's great news. I was worried he would move on. It will be a tough year next year mind you.

Thought last year was tough and Antrim managed to win at Croke gain entry to McCarthy cup and stay in Div 1... you'd want that every year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 05, 2022, 12:02:18 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 04, 2022, 06:45:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2022, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 04, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
That's great news. I was worried he would move on. It will be a tough year next year mind you.

Thought last year was tough and Antrim managed to win at Croke gain entry to McCarthy cup and stay in Div 1... you'd want that every year
Ihave to agree MR,good news

I think next year will be brilliant, 5 Div 1 league games and 5 Championship matches, can't wait.
Good to see Gleeson signing on again, well deserved
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 05, 2022, 08:07:07 PM
Cushendall walking away with it. Far better side in every dept.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 08:34:12 PM
That streaming is not good. I can watch a minute or so at a time then the page crashes. About the third time it kicks me out of being logged in and now I can't even select the option to login again. I would be wary of paying for that.

From what I saw cushendall having it easy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 05, 2022, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 08:34:12 PM
That streaming is not good. I can watch a minute or so at a time then the page crashes. About the third time it kicks me out of being logged in and now I can't even select the option to login again. I would be wary of paying for that.

From what I saw cushendall having it easy.

Streaming is pure rubbish. Camera work is crap.

Hope all improves
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 08:54:47 PM
Changed browser and at least it work. The commentators didn't seem to notice maskey getting the red. Had to be as it was pretty rough. (At least I think it was red?!). Out of character and more frustration tbf.

Strong enough cushendall team. There'll not be many beat them though still hard to look past Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 05, 2022, 09:27:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 08:54:47 PM
Changed browser and at least it work. The commentators didn't seem to notice maskey getting the red. Had to be as it was pretty rough. (At least I think it was red?!). Out of character and more frustration tbf.

Strong enough cushendall team. There'll not be many beat them though still hard to look past Dunloy.

He getting no change at all. Left high and dry in there against 2 men.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:56:41 PM
Yeah and two Burkes too. Never understood why Martin Burke not a regular for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 05, 2022, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:56:41 PM
Yeah and two Burkes too. Never understood why Martin Burke not a regular for Antrim.

Always seems bothered with injuries. A tough cookie also
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 05, 2022, 10:32:55 PM
St Endas looked very poor
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2022, 11:00:10 PM
Tough opener for St Endas, in fairness to them Joe has played most of the season in there and has be prolific, that  said you are coming up against quality defender....

Any mistakes or poor clearances were cleaned up and punished..

Tomorrows games will be closer

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2022, 07:28:51 PM
St. John's beat loughgiel. Dunloy beat Bally castle by 13 or so. I think the johnnies won by two but were up by a good but at half time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 06, 2022, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2022, 07:28:51 PM
St. John's beat loughgiel. Dunloy beat Bally castle by 13 or so. I think the johnnies won by two but were up by a good but at half time.

Johnnies could get to final - went well a few years ago.

I suppose dependent on how the big ball goes also. 

Naomh Eanna were poor, very poor last night. Cushendall gave a few lads a run out in the second half.

Were Dunloy at full strength Imtommygun?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2022, 08:55:24 PM
No idea Marty. I just saw the result.

The johnnies had a team capable of winning it three or four years ago IMO but have missed the boat. They're still decent though and could get to the final with the right draw. I saw at least one of rossa's decent players away in the states so they maybe wouldn't be as strong this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 06, 2022, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2022, 08:55:24 PM
No idea Marty. I just saw the result.

The johnnies had a team capable of winning it three or four years ago IMO but have missed the boat. They're still decent though and could get to the final with the right draw. I saw at least one of rossa's decent players away in the states so they maybe wouldn't be as strong this year.

Ok, thanks.

Yeah, Johnnies on their day could beat anyone.  Had a chance v Dunloy last year in the semi-final at Dunsilly...iirc?

One of the Johnsons got an early red card which sorta ruined it for them and Dunloy got over the line. Really wet day iirc.

Rossa off the pace a bit maybe. I though Ballycastle would have been going better.

Hard to see past Dunloy with their talent and experience. Thwy'll really be pushing for an Ulster this year.  Another Antrim will be no good to them, they'll want an Ulster, if they get through Antrim.

Cushendall don't have the pace I think. They have a cohort of older players and a few young lads but pace could be an issue as the year goes on. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
Dont think O Neill will be hurling this year and the other pair are in San Fran I believe. Probably home for the business end.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
Good win for the junior camogie team in the All Ireland final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
Dont think O Neill will be hurling this year and the other pair are in San Fran I believe. Probably home for the business end.

Molloy on the sideline.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2022, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on August 07, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
Dont think O Neill will be hurling this year and the other pair are in San Fran I believe. Probably home for the business end.

Molloy on the sideline.
must be home then, was told they were away with James McNaughton
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 07, 2022, 05:48:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
No Woody either and Shorty only played about 3 minutes at the end. Its looking very likely that the last 4 will be Cushendall, Dunloy, Loughgiel and St Johns.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 07, 2022, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
Good win for the junior camogie team in the All Ireland final
Two all irelands in two years for Antrim now. Some good work being done by the camogie board. U-16s lost a final last Sunday as well.Comfortably stayed in the senior championship as well this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: maxpower on August 07, 2022, 06:05:07 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 07, 2022, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 07, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
Good win for the junior camogie team in the All Ireland final
Two all irelands in two years for Antrim now. Some good work being done by the camogie board. U-16s lost a final last Sunday as well.Comfortably stayed in the senior championship as well this year.

majority of players have been idle all year, immediate success but will it be worth it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 07:49:30 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 07, 2022, 05:48:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 09:29:27 AM
On reading the report I think Dunloy were missing seaan Elliot, Malloy and Eoin O'Neill at least. That would be worrying for other teams.
No Woody either and Shorty only played about 3 minutes at the end. Its looking very likely that the last 4 will be Cushendall, Dunloy, Loughgiel and St Johns.

Is it the top two in each group into semis? There are only two groups aren't there?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2022, 08:03:41 PM
Ah- thanks. Yeah it kind of is a procession to that stage though I think there is some significance to the johnnies win. Realistically the top three pick themselves it's just the order.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JimStynes on August 07, 2022, 11:01:44 PM
Was that Antrim's 2nd team in the camogie final today? Have they another team in the intermediate comp?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2022, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 07, 2022, 11:01:44 PM
Was that Antrim's 2nd team in the camogie final today? Have they another team in the intermediate comp?

Second team first won intermediate last year retained senior again this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 07, 2022, 11:24:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2022, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 07, 2022, 11:01:44 PM
Was that Antrim's 2nd team in the camogie final today? Have they another team in the intermediate comp?

Second team first won intermediate last year retained senior again this year

I see on TSG that, if you win intermediate, you can't play intermediate again for 2 years.

Galway will have some panel next year if they get 5 or 6 of these intermediate players coming through.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on August 08, 2022, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2022, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 07, 2022, 11:01:44 PM
Was that Antrim's 2nd team in the camogie final today? Have they another team in the intermediate comp?

Second team first won intermediate last year retained senior again this year

So are those selected simply those who don't make the Intermediate squad or are they from Junior clubs?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2022, 12:27:10 PM
Quote from: ck on August 08, 2022, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2022, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 07, 2022, 11:01:44 PM
Was that Antrim's 2nd team in the camogie final today? Have they another team in the intermediate comp?

Second team first won intermediate last year retained senior again this year

So are those selected simply those who don't make the Intermediate squad or are they from Junior clubs?

Not sure as there are ballycastle and Cushendall and Ahohill players I'm sure there are Loughgiel too, its probably players that will be on their clubs second teams I'd assume..

Cork had a team in the intermediate and senior finals yesterday, so not uncommon
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
I don't think it is second teams. I think Kelly would be on Ballycastle's first team and a those Cushendall ones would be on Cushendall senior team. I suspect Laverty is on Loughgiel's too. She was saying she was on the senior panel but dropped off it last year.

I think it's just those that don't make the squad.

Also they seem to tend to be younger as I think the plan is to bring them on to the intermediate.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 08, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
I don't think it is second teams. I think Kelly would be on Ballycastle's first team and a those Cushendall ones would be on Cushendall senior team. I suspect Laverty is on Loughgiel's too. She was saying she was on the senior panel but dropped off it last year.

I think it's just those that don't make the squad.

Also they seem to tend to be younger as I think the plan is to bring them on to the intermediate.

So like club, teams are graded and the seniors must grade a squad and any that are not on that senior team are available for the seconds? Huge boost to the the camogs and hopefully inspiring new ones to take it up..

Our club have started with a Camogie team lately and its getting good numbers its seems so hopefully we can keep it going, all 4 areas covered plus handball also, we might not be winning much but providing a great sporting cultural environment
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2022, 02:12:53 PM
I am not 100% sure on the details but yes I think that is what it is.

I'd be interested in Max Power's comments. Two teams is bound to leave a hell of a lot of players out of club action.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: maxpower on August 08, 2022, 02:24:28 PM
The county teams do seem to be well prepared and are generating good interest. But almost 3 months went past with NO fixtures for the rest of the girls left behind

The County board cancelled Feile last year as it clashed with a senior county fixture and I just fear the priorities are misplaced!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2022, 03:49:24 PM
3 months is a lot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 08, 2022, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 08, 2022, 02:24:28 PM
The county teams do seem to be well prepared and are generating good interest. But almost 3 months went past with NO fixtures for the rest of the girls left behind

The County board cancelled Feile last year as it clashed with a senior county fixture and I just fear the priorities are misplaced!

At least in Down they run off a league without the county camogs, senior and junior.

Lacking in quality but gave the rest a run out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 08, 2022, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: maxpower on August 08, 2022, 02:24:28 PM
The county teams do seem to be well prepared and are generating good interest. But almost 3 months went past with NO fixtures for the rest of the girls left behind

The County board cancelled Feile last year as it clashed with a senior county fixture and I just fear the priorities are misplaced!
If I'm not mistaken the County Camogie Board is pretty much a new executive this year, so anything that happened last year can't be laid at their door. This is the first year of the split so it will obviously take abit of tweaking to get things right for next year in regards to fixtures as that is a long time for the club players. Personally I think the Junior team is a good idea.
Only having 5 (I think) team in Division 1 is a big problem, so you have mainly 4 teams forming two squads (Dunloy, Loughgiel, Ballycastle & Cushendall) with a few from other clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 09, 2022, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 08, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
I don't think it is second teams. I think Kelly would be on Ballycastle's first team and a those Cushendall ones would be on Cushendall senior team. I suspect Laverty is on Loughgiel's too. She was saying she was on the senior panel but dropped off it last year.

I think it's just those that don't make the squad.

Also they seem to tend to be younger as I think the plan is to bring them on to the intermediate.

So like club, teams are graded and the seniors must grade a squad and any that are not on that senior team are available for the seconds? Huge boost to the the camogs and hopefully inspiring new ones to take it up..

Our club have started with a Camogie team lately and its getting good numbers its seems so hopefully we can keep it going, all 4 areas covered plus handball also, we might not be winning much but providing a great sporting cultural environment

There seems to be a push from the Camogie board to get more clubs playing, I have noticed Moneyglass and Davitts fielding in recent years who would be relatively new, good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 09, 2022, 12:36:56 PM
St Brigids played Naomh Gall last night in u14 camogie Championship, it was the first time either club had played u14 C'ship. Great to see
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2022, 09:06:18 PM
How far from Woodlands to Musgrave?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 09, 2022, 09:10:05 PM
1.6 miles...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2022, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2022, 09:06:18 PM
How far from Woodlands to Musgrave?

As the crow flies , about 100 metres but if walking or driving see Tommys post above
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 09, 2022, 10:40:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 09, 2022, 09:10:05 PM
1.6 miles...

Ta 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on August 10, 2022, 10:34:16 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2022, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 09, 2022, 09:06:18 PM
How far from Woodlands to Musgrave?

As the crow flies , about 100 metres but if walking or driving see Tommys post above

100 metres is a bit of an exaggeration (is under exaggeration a term?) but yes, there used to be a direct route that was markedly shorter than going down Finaghy road north then lisburn road and Stockman's lane.

Hope you all enjoyed that written tour of west / south Belfast.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: toby47 on August 17, 2022, 12:31:51 PM
Liam Watson on the 'Smaller Fish Podcast' was a good listen
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 19, 2022, 04:25:26 PM
Championship weekend ahead

Davitts V Ballymena   Davitts by 4
Glenarm v Armoy       Glenarm by 5  >:(
Creggan V Glenravel   Creggan by 9
Sarsfields v St Galls    Sarsfields by 2
Rasharkin v St Bridgits  St Bridgits by 2
Cloughmills v Lamh dearg  Draw
Carey v Dunloy   Dunloy by however much they like 10+
Ballycastle v Rossa   Rossa by 3
Gorts v St pauls   St pauls by 2
Clooney V randalstown  Clooney by 4
Loughgiel v Cushendall  Dall by 2
St endas V St johns    St johns by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 19, 2022, 04:46:36 PM
Think Rasharkin, Cloughmills and Gort will win

Quote from: keep her low this half on August 19, 2022, 04:25:26 PM
Championship weekend ahead

Davitts V Ballymena   Davitts by 4
Glenarm v Armoy       Glenarm by 5  >:(
Creggan V Glenravel   Creggan by 9
Sarsfields v St Galls    Sarsfields by 2
Rasharkin v St Bridgits  St Bridgits by 2
Cloughmills v Lamh dearg  Draw
Carey v Dunloy   Dunloy by however much they like 10+
Ballycastle v Rossa   Rossa by 3
Gorts v St pauls   St pauls by 2
Clooney V randalstown  Clooney by 4
Loughgiel v Cushendall  Dall by 2
St endas V St johns    St johns by 5
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 19, 2022, 06:59:52 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 19, 2022, 04:46:36 PM
Think Rasharkin, Cloughmills and Gort will win

Quote from: keep her low this half on August 19, 2022, 04:25:26 PM
Championship weekend ahead

Davitts V Ballymena   Davitts by 4
Glenarm v Armoy       Glenarm by 5  >:(
Creggan V Glenravel   Creggan by 9
Sarsfields v St Galls    Sarsfields by 2
Rasharkin v St Bridgits  St Bridgits by 2
Cloughmills v Lamh dearg  Draw
Carey v Dunloy   Dunloy by however much they like 10+
Ballycastle v Rossa   Rossa by 3
Gorts v St pauls   St pauls by 2
Clooney V randalstown  Clooney by 4
Loughgiel v Cushendall  Dall by 2
St endas V St johns    St johns by 5

Agreed on first 2 but think St Paul's will beat gorts
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 20, 2022, 09:59:33 PM
That's as bad as I have ever seen Ballycastle, they were like an intermediate team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: old timers on August 21, 2022, 04:18:03 PM
The standard last night in the hurling championship from both teams was poor.   CC going off for B'castle so early on was a bad blow but the general opinion in Dunsilly, albeit from the neutrals, was that it was a very poor display -
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2022, 06:16:23 PM
Scoring 26 points away from home on senior championship is pretty good going in my book
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2022, 06:24:59 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2022, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2022, 06:16:23 PM
Scoring 26 points away from home on senior championship is pretty good going in my book

Away from home ?

Well not at Rossa park
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 21, 2022, 06:25:37 PM
Are Antrim Twitter not providing any updates for this game ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2022, 06:25:37 PM
Are Antrim Twitter not providing any updates for this game ?

Only checked there now but there are updates.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 21, 2022, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 21, 2022, 06:25:37 PM
Are Antrim Twitter not providing any updates for this game ?

Only checked there now but there are updates.

Yeah they were a bit late to it, first update was 0-9 to 0-5. Dall pulling away
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 07:57:20 PM
Very few results on the web site today. Any other results?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2022, 08:00:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 07:57:20 PM
Very few results on the web site today. Any other results?

There has been these last few months problems with the system, that's across the all counties that are using it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2022, 08:09:17 PM
from Twitter

Ahoghill by 9
St. John's by 23
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 22, 2022, 09:06:12 AM
Its all a bit of a phoney war at present in the SHC. Players coming back from America etc, teams using group stages to test out players. Quarter finals will be interesting as it is difficult to know where everyone is at. The last round does look interesting though. Although they looked good at the weekend its hard to see Rossa go to Dunloy and win which is a huge ask so Dunloy in the semi final with Rossa in a quarter final. As for the Ballycastle Carey match who knows, Carey will be looking forward to it more than Ballycastle that's for sure. Good luck to whoever gets the job of refereeing this one as I suspect it will be feisty.
In the other group despite two defeats Loughgiel don't look that far away and will beat St Endas to set up a quarter final with Rossa which will be a good competitive match. Cushendall and St Johns meet to decide first spot in that group and I wouldn't rule out a draw but I think home advantage will swing it to Cushendall leaving St johns to meet the winner of Ballycastle/Carey which will not fill St johns with too much dread.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 02, 2022, 02:18:07 PM
Hurling Championship this weekend again

Ballymena v St Bridgits,  Ballymena by 6
Cloughmills V Glenarm Glenarm by 3
Creggan V sarsfields  Creggan by 2
Gorts V clooney   Clooney by 3
Carey v Ballycastle  Ballycastle by 3 plus 3 red cards shared out
Dunloy v Rossa  Dunloy by 6
Armoy v Lamhs  Armoy by 3
St Galls V Glenariffe  St galls by 2
Randalstown v Cushendun  Draw
Cushendall v St johns   Dall by 4
Rasharkin v Davitts  Davitts by 3
Loughgiel v St endas  Loughgiel by 10
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on September 02, 2022, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 02, 2022, 02:18:07 PM
Hurling Championship this weekend again

Ballymena v St Bridgits,  Ballymena by 6
Cloughmills V Glenarm Glenarm by 3
Creggan V sarsfields  Creggan by 2
Gorts V clooney   Clooney by 3
Carey v Ballycastle  Ballycastle by 3 plus 3 red cards shared out
Dunloy v Rossa  Dunloy by 6
Armoy v Lamhs  Armoy by 3
St Galls V Glenariffe  St galls by 2
Randalstown v Cushendun  Draw
Cushendall v St johns   Dall by 4
Rasharkin v Davitts  Davitts by 3
Loughgiel v St endas  Loughgiel by 10

Are Dunloy starting to find a bit of form yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 09:57:59 PM
Looks like Creggan have packed the hurling in to concentrate on the big ball
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 09:57:59 PM
Looks like Creggan have packed the hurling in to concentrate on the big ball

Not sure what's going on there. They were a very strong intermediate side  this past few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 10:23:31 PM
Looks like St Galls and Glenariffe to come out of that group after this weekends results
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on September 03, 2022, 11:05:51 PM
No guarantee of rossa beating loughgiel in quarter finals

Cushendall, Dunloy and St John's all as good as there. All to play for.

Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on September 03, 2022, 11:06:53 PM
Ahoghill favourites for sure

Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.

How many games have you been to ? What are you expecting from the IHC?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 04, 2022, 12:53:08 PM
JC that is awful sad about your clubmate :(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Glensman on September 04, 2022, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.

How many games have you been to ? What are you expecting from the IHC?

Fair question - how many games have you been to as the intermediate has always been the most competitive. Some serious teams left in. Sarsfields look like they are hotting up and have two main men with serious support crew.

Senior does indeed look competitive, which is great.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on September 05, 2022, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: Glensman on September 04, 2022, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 03, 2022, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2022, 10:57:11 PM
It's the poorest standard at intermediate level that I have seen for a while. As things stand, an average Clooney Gaels team, look the pick of the bunch. The Senior championship appears more competitive for the first time in a few years. Dunloy, Cushendall, Rossa/St John's all in with a shout ......Dunloy, obviously favourites.

How many games have you been to ? What are you expecting from the IHC?

Fair question - how many games have you been to as the intermediate has always been the most competitive. Some serious teams left in. Sarsfields look like they are hotting up and have two main men with serious support crew.

Senior does indeed look competitive, which is great.

Sarsfields certainly put Creggan to the sword but all might be too little too late- if glenariffe beat creggan (who seem to have checked out with other things on their mind) then i am pretty sure Sarsfields are out. 

In my view it is perverse that 3 teams go through in the SHC (which is less competitive) compared to only 2 in the IHC.   The IHC is certainly competitive but Clooney must be favourites at this point.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2022, 06:09:48 PM
The Intermediate teams are taking a good bit of a beating in senior when they get up so there is obviously quite a big gap there.

Is McManus injured again? That will have a big impact on the championship if so.

Loughgiel Rossa should be very interesting. I am not sure Ballycastle will put it up to St Johns with how they're going. I guess whether Clarke is back or not will have a big bearing too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
St Paul's, Gort Na Mona, Creggan and Con Magees all very poor. Its rare for the Intermediate Championship to have so many poor teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on September 06, 2022, 07:55:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 04, 2022, 12:53:08 PM
JC that is awful sad about your clubmate :(

Just after putting up a post about him on the Down thread.

Hard to watch a big, strong lad like that waste away, terrible disease....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2022, 08:09:08 AM
Awful young for dementia too  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 06, 2022, 09:11:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 05, 2022, 06:09:48 PM
The Intermediate teams are taking a good bit of a beating in senior when they get up so there is obviously quite a big gap there.

Is McManus injured again? That will have a big impact on the championship if so.

Loughgiel Rossa should be very interesting. I am not sure Ballycastle will put it up to St Johns with how they're going. I guess whether Clarke is back or not will have a big bearing too.

Clarke will not be back from what i hear, serious knee injury out for the rest of the year.
I heard a rumour Rossa got a player sent off after the final whistle against Dunloy, is that correct and is he out of the Loughgiel match?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on September 06, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
St Paul's, Gort Na Mona, Creggan and Con Magees all very poor. Its rare for the Intermediate Championship to have so many poor teams.

Clooney the only decent team in it. Whoever beats them will win it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 06, 2022, 11:20:48 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
St Paul's, Gort Na Mona, Creggan and Con Magees all very poor. Its rare for the Intermediate Championship to have so many poor teams.

St Pauls not decent enough?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 06, 2022, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 06, 2022, 11:20:48 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
St Paul's, Gort Na Mona, Creggan and Con Magees all very poor. Its rare for the Intermediate Championship to have so many poor teams.

St Pauls not decent enough?

St Pauls & GNM the bottom two teams in Div2 & Glenravel are a Div 3 team, not sure what people are expecting from a Div 3 team. They were actually more than competitive in a couple of the games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 06, 2022, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 06, 2022, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 06, 2022, 11:20:48 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2022, 07:20:19 AM
St Paul's, Gort Na Mona, Creggan and Con Magees all very poor. Its rare for the Intermediate Championship to have so many poor teams.

St Pauls not decent enough?

St Pauls & GNM the bottom two teams in Div2 & Glenravel are a Div 3 team, not sure what people are expecting from a Div 3 team. They were actually more than competitive in a couple of the games

Yeah I agree, they have done well to be fair
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: pullhard on September 08, 2022, 06:18:36 AM
https://www.irishnews.com/paywall/tsb/irishnews/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2022/09/06/news/ex-antrim_star_neal_mcauley_new_lease_of_life_with_ballycastle-2819191/content.html This is behind the paywall could anyone copy and paste please?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 15, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Championship hurling again this weekend

Glenariffe v Creggan   Glenariffe by 8
Glenravel v Sarsfields  Sarsfields by 6
Cushendun V Gorts    Cushendun by 8
St Pauls v Clooney   Clooney by 8
Davitts V Armoy     Armoy by 3
Cloughmills V Ballymena  Cloughmills by 10
Ballycastle v St johns  St johns by 5
Rossa v loughgiel  Loughgiel by 3
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on September 15, 2022, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on September 15, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Championship hurling again this weekend

Glenariffe v Creggan   Glenariffe by 8
Glenravel v Sarsfields  Sarsfields by 6
Cushendun V Gorts    Cushendun by 8
St Pauls v Clooney   Clooney by 8
Davitts V Armoy     Armoy by 3
Cloughmills V Ballymena  Cloughmills by 10
Ballycastle v St johns  St johns by 5
Rossa v loughgiel  Loughgiel by 3

Here's hoping the gorts pull a miracle out of the bag!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on September 18, 2022, 06:35:05 PM
Very impressive from the Shams
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2022, 06:43:56 PM
That should be a good semi now. Ballycastle looked to give the johnnies their fill of it. Hard to see them troubling Dunloy.

What has happened to Creggan? They shipped an awful hammering.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on September 18, 2022, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2022, 06:43:56 PM
That should be a good semi now. Ballycastle looked to give the johnnies their fill of it. Hard to see them troubling Dunloy.

What has happened to Creggan? They shipped an awful hammering.

Creggan haven't really bothered with the IHC from what I can see, Sarsfields hammered them too so I'm guessing they are playing weakened teams with the football on the horizon
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2022, 08:23:22 PM
Hard to judge how good Loughgiel are as Rossa are a shadow of the team from the past couple of years. Losing Stephen and Michael was a killer blow to their preparations then losing James Connolly so early in the game was the final nail in the coffin. They simply haven't the squad to replace them. Their subs made no impact.

And yet, all that aside, Loughgiel looked very sharp and some of their passages of play had to be admired.

St John's will be concerned with their performance. If they play like that  the next day they are in for a mauling.

The Loughgiel v Cushendall semi is shaping up to be thrilling.

Good performance from the officials today too. They let the play go as much as possible and were consistent. Kevin Parke shaping up to be a damn good referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on September 19, 2022, 12:13:31 PM
Wouldn't disagree with any of that

Can't see Dunloy or Cushendall beat though

Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2022, 08:23:22 PM
Hard to judge how good Loughgiel are as Rossa are a shadow of the team from the past couple of years. Losing Stephen and Michael was a killer blow to their preparations then losing James Connolly so early in the game was the final nail in the coffin. They simply haven't the squad to replace them. Their subs made no impact.

And yet, all that aside, Loughgiel looked very sharp and some of their passages of play had to be admired.

St John's will be concerned with their performance. If they play like that  the next day they are in for a mauling.

The Loughgiel v Cushendall semi is shaping up to be thrilling.

Good performance from the officials today too. They let the play go as much as possible and were consistent. Kevin Parke shaping up to be a damn good referee.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: old timers on September 20, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2022, 08:23:22 PM
Hard to judge how good Loughgiel are as Rossa are a shadow of the team from the past couple of years. Losing Stephen and Michael was a killer blow to their preparations then losing James Connolly so early in the game was the final nail in the coffin. They simply haven't the squad to replace them. Their subs made no impact.

And yet, all that aside, Loughgiel looked very sharp and some of their passages of play had to be admired.

St John's will be concerned with their performance. If they play like that  the next day they are in for a mauling.

The Loughgiel v Cushendall semi is shaping up to be thrilling.

Good performance from the officials today too. They let the play go as much as possible and were consistent. Kevin Parke shaping up to be a damn good referee.

Totally agree that Rossa don't have the squad they did from last season and have not been the team they were last year.  The subs bench on Sunday appeared to be very limited and what was worse one of their young players went on as a sub and was then subbed to put on a player who appeared to be injured not too long after.  I only hope the young fella was injured as that is very demoralising for anyone in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.   but take nothing away from the Shamrocks who took their chance and played some lovely hurling and came out worthy winners. 

The St Johns/B'Castle match was a closer match and it could have gone either way but i dont think that either will trouble the Dall or Dunloy. Hopefully both semi finals will be entertaining.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 20, 2022, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: old timers on September 20, 2022, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 18, 2022, 08:23:22 PM
Hard to judge how good Loughgiel are as Rossa are a shadow of the team from the past couple of years. Losing Stephen and Michael was a killer blow to their preparations then losing James Connolly so early in the game was the final nail in the coffin. They simply haven't the squad to replace them. Their subs made no impact.

And yet, all that aside, Loughgiel looked very sharp and some of their passages of play had to be admired.

St John's will be concerned with their performance. If they play like that  the next day they are in for a mauling.

The Loughgiel v Cushendall semi is shaping up to be thrilling.

Good performance from the officials today too. They let the play go as much as possible and were consistent. Kevin Parke shaping up to be a damn good referee.

Totally agree that Rossa don't have the squad they did from last season and have not been the team they were last year.  The subs bench on Sunday appeared to be very limited and what was worse one of their young players went on as a sub and was then subbed to put on a player who appeared to be injured not too long after.  I only hope the young fella was injured as that is very demoralising for anyone in front of a large crowd in Dunsilly.   but take nothing away from the Shamrocks who took their chance and played some lovely hurling and came out worthy winners. 

The St Johns/B'Castle match was a closer match and it could have gone either way but i dont think that either will trouble the Dall or Dunloy. Hopefully both semi finals will be entertaining.
I think C'Dall V Loughgiel will be highly entertaining, it is perhaps a year too early for Loughgiel but you never know, they have a lot of talented young players but Cushendall will still be favourites and rightly so.
As for Dunloy V St Johns unless St Johns get some players back and vastly improve their shooting then Dunloy could waltz through to the final relatively untested. While getting to a final is always good there is the prospect of Dunloy being slightly undercooked for the final should they make it there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2022, 02:26:49 PM
What's the story with McManus? Will he be available? I would say that will have a big bearing on the game.

Anything I have read seems to suggest that Cushendall are strong favourites. I wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2022, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 20, 2022, 02:26:49 PM
What's the story with McManus? Will he be available? I would say that will have a big bearing on the game.

Anything I have read seems to suggest that Cushendall are strong favourites. I wouldn't be so sure.
I'd assume he's playing,held out of St Johns game with KO hurling in mind,don't no about strong favourites but Cdall will be favourites,really depends what loughgiel shows up. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on September 23, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
What about Graffin? Haven't saw him figure much.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2022, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
What about Graffin? Haven't saw him figure much.
.  Again assuming he'll be there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 26, 2022, 08:34:50 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on September 23, 2022, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 23, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
What about Graffin? Haven't saw him figure much.
.  Again assuming he'll be there.
From what I hear Graffin has done his knee ligaments again and has undergone an operation, out for the season. Don't know anything about McManus
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
Slaughtneil so impressive yesterday-another Ulster beckons. Big crowd in
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2022, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
Slaughtneil so impressive yesterday-another Ulster beckons. Big crowd in

Winning the Derry SHC is the equivalent of Celtic winning the SPFL. Their hurling accomplishments outside of Derry deserve respect.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on September 26, 2022, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 26, 2022, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 26, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
Slaughtneil so impressive yesterday-another Ulster beckons. Big crowd in

Winning the Derry SHC is the equivalent of Celtic winning the SPFL. Their hurling accomplishments outside of Derry deserve respect.
Glad you qualified that.
Serious hurling team is SN .
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on September 29, 2022, 03:42:00 PM
Another big weekend on the horizon, getting down to serious business now

St Galls v Clooney    Clooney by 4
Rasharkin V Cloughmills       Cloughmills by 6
Glenarm v Armoy        Glenarm by 3 sadly
Cushendun v Glenariffe   Cushendun by 1 ( don't rule out extra time)
Minor Final C'Dall V loughgiel   Loughgiel by 5 making it 4 in a row
C'Dall V loughgiel Senior  C'Dall by 2
Dunloy v St Johns  Dunloy by 6

As an aside can anyone explain to me why in the two junior semi finals Rasharkin and Glenarm have home advantage but in all other competitions semi finals are at a neutral venue?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2022, 07:34:20 PM
Any updates from Dunsilly? Can see nothing on social media
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 30, 2022, 07:47:34 PM
H/T Clooney 2-8 to st galls 0-6 in torrential rain is the update on St Galls Twitter feed
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on September 30, 2022, 08:43:53 PM
Serious tanking for St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:08:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2022, 08:43:53 PM
Serious tanking for St Galls.

Just back and we were poor and Clooney were excellent
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 01, 2022, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2022, 09:08:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on September 30, 2022, 08:43:53 PM
Serious tanking for St Galls.

Just back and we were poor and Clooney were excellent

Still trying to dry out, but that is a very accurate summary.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 01, 2022, 11:48:33 AM
Would probably have had Ahoghill faves for IHC before the two semis, they have a big goal threat
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2022, 04:36:43 PM
How do you buy tickets with concessions online for these games? (Senior citizen- I don't see an option)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2022, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 01, 2022, 04:36:43 PM
How do you buy tickets with concessions online for these games? (Senior citizen- I don't see an option)

I don't think there is any concessions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2022, 07:14:41 PM
Really? That's pretty poor. Thanks for reply.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2022, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 01, 2022, 07:14:41 PM
Really? That's pretty poor. Thanks for reply.

I looked for ages myself  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
Very poor quality here in Loughgiel & Cushendall
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on October 02, 2022, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 02:33:26 PM
Very poor quality here in Loughgiel & Cushendall

I thought Cushendalls 3 goals were very well worked and ultimately made the difference. There were some shocking wides from both sides right enough. Ground was damp which led to a few bad pick ups but overall I enjoyed the game. Loughgiel dug deep to get the two goals at the finish and I thought they were going to pinch it but they had left it just too late.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 05:52:07 PM
15 points in it at half time here. Not good.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 06:20:41 PM
Dunloy V Cushendall, let's hope for Ballycastle as a venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 02, 2022, 06:50:56 PM
Dunsilly is devoid of atmosphere.  Having said that, ballycastle pitch is poor and I think the artificial squares there were a factor in goals in both the minor and senior matches today.  Loughgiel would be a potential venue.  But sense will not prevail, you can be sure of that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 07:19:06 PM
Ballycastle pitch isn't up to it I don't think, and it's too open to the elements. Always seems to be a stinking day there. Today no different
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Can't believe there are no concessions at matches and then the way they space out matches to avoid double headers. Poor show.

Which goal(s) in the senior out of interest Podge?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 02, 2022, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Can't believe there are no concessions at matches and then the way they space out matches to avoid double headers. Poor show.

Which goal(s) in the senior out of interest Podge?
Christy's goal. Maybe it was just bad goalkeeping but in defence of the keepers, the bounce off the sod and the bounce off the artificial squares are totally different .
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2022, 08:14:04 PM
Quote from: podge on October 02, 2022, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Can't believe there are no concessions at matches and then the way they space out matches to avoid double headers. Poor show.

Which goal(s) in the senior out of interest Podge?
Christy's goal. Maybe it was just bad goalkeeping but in defence of the keepers, the bounce off the sod and the bounce off the artificial squares are totally different .
bad goal keeping is what it was
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 02, 2022, 08:01:00 PM
A sore one for St Johns today against an awesome side. While I would never have given the Johnnies a chance of winning the game today, their result against Ballycastle suggested that they could be on the receiving end of a battering. They'll regroup and go again but I'm beginning to think they're a team that peaked about 4 years ago.

I've heard a lot of talk about Cushendall this year but I'm not seeing it. Dunloy are levels above everything else for me.
But.....everyone has a bad day I suppose....

I would agree with you about Cushendall, thought they were very laboured at times. Obviously they will try and prevent Dunloy from playing but if Dunloy get going early I see them winning comfortably.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 02, 2022, 08:01:00 PM
A sore one for St Johns today against an awesome side. While I would never have given the Johnnies a chance of winning the game today, their result against Ballycastle suggested that they could be on the receiving end of a battering. They'll regroup and go again but I'm beginning to think they're a team that peaked about 4 years ago.

I've heard a lot of talk about Cushendall this year but I'm not seeing it. Dunloy are levels above everything else for me.
But.....everyone has a bad day I suppose....

I think St. John's blew it about four years ago when they should have won it. The year cushendall beat them late on in a replayed semi final was the year they should have won it.

Agreed on cushendall. Would be needing a significantly better performance than today to even have a chance.

Tbh with mcnaughton's goal I thought the goalie was caught by surprise that mcnaughton hit it so badly. Mcnaughton made a massive impact for cushendall btw. I don't think they win that without him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 09:19:51 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.

And he will hang about with the good U-15 team coming through
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2022, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.
. Jesus thank you!!! Said the same myself, odds on an appearance on senior sidelines in a fortnight
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2022, 09:41:16 PM
LG are building there. Some decent young ish players there. Few less wides and may have been different.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.

As far as I know he's been coaching that team all year.

Very hard on poor Sambo folks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.

As far as I know he's been coaching that team all year.

Very hard on poor Sambo folks.
He hasn't,but whatever,no odds
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.

As far as I know he's been coaching that team all year.

Very hard on poor Sambo folks.
He hasn't,but whatever,no odds

Well sure what's your issue then?

He's living rent free in your head. Enjoy the celebrations 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2022, 11:09:33 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 02, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 02, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 02, 2022, 09:14:20 PM
Dunloy look razor sharp, precisely not what a sluggish Cushendall would want to be facing. Only looks like one outcome.

Loughgiel are rebuilding and deserve credit for blooding the youngsters this past 2 seasons. With some serious underage talent they'll be back challenging Dunloy in a few years. Dunloy going nowhere for the foreseeable. Multi-talented group of players they have.

Haven't seen Sambo near a Cushendall juvenile team in years. Suddenly there's a minor final and low and behold ....people see through that nonsense.

As far as I know he's been coaching that team all year.

Very hard on poor Sambo folks.
He hasn't,but whatever,no odds

Well sure what's your issue then?

He's living rent free in your head. Enjoy the celebrations 👍

Two week ban  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
 County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.

Surely can't be!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on October 04, 2022, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.

So St John's are letting them use their venue ? Decent of them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.
What's the split on the gate?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north aontroim gael on October 05, 2022, 01:52:12 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.

What a crowd of balloons
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: whatwillbwillb on October 05, 2022, 06:39:35 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.
What's the split on the gate?

St Johns would'nt need a split on the gate, social club/bar should be bringing in a clondyke considering the games hosted both club & county over the last few seasons!! Well CD played an absolute blinder!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2022, 07:35:27 AM
In fairness the weather got the better of the pitch at Ballycastle on Sunday, ball was plugged a few times and the normal decent pitch was a bit heavy.. two games and plenty of rain probably the main reason.

We've a covered stand with seating and a decent terrace area, it's catered finals and county games, I don't think Dunloy or Cushendall will be complaining where the game is at .. Ballycastle has hosted a few finals too

It's the best option in my book, only down side might be the roadworks on the M2 city bound !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2022, 07:54:17 AM
Are St. John's the linfield of Antrim Gaa now ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on October 05, 2022, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2022, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.

Surely can't be!

Talking to Skinny last night and he said Dunloy and Cushendall had both asked for the game to be played at Corrrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 05, 2022, 08:25:31 AM
Corrigan is fine tbh. One game a year and a much better setup with the stand, parking wise etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 05, 2022, 11:08:00 PM
Better playing surface than Loughgiel and Ballycastle. Parking facilities are insufficient.  Dunsilly needed/needs a stand, toilet facilities and a proper shop. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 07, 2022, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 05, 2022, 11:08:00 PM
Better playing surface than Loughgiel and Ballycastle. Parking facilities are insufficient.  Dunsilly needed/needs a stand, toilet facilities and a proper shop. 

Agree with this - dunsilly has a lot going for it in terms of location, playing surface etc.  It just lacks an atmosphere and some of the ancillary facilities.  I am sure these will come with time.  If only some the 10s of millions being ploughed into casement could be redirected to here.  I am all for the redevelopment of casement but the money that has already been wasted on it is immoral in my view.  A much more modest stadium would suffice and might have made the planning process a bit easier.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 08, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
I see the Antrim County Board have not made the JHC and IHC Finals a double header next Saturday.

The JHC Final is scheduled to be played at 1 o'clock, while the IHC Final is to be played at 4 o'clock in Dunsilly. It appears that after the JHC the venue will be cleared and punters required to re-enter the venue using a different ticket in order to watch the IHC final.

What the f**k are these clowns playing at. It appears the county board have gone down the money grabbing route.

Surely a double header makes sense. 2 matches I was looking forward to attending but unfortunately I won't be able to do so now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 08, 2022, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 08, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
I see the Antrim County Board have not made the JHC and IHC Finals a double header next Saturday.

The JHC Final is scheduled to be played at 1 o'clock, while the IHC Final is to be played at 4 o'clock in Dunsilly. It appears that after the JHC the venue will be cleared and punters required to re-enter the venue using a different ticket in order to watch the IHC final.

What the f**k are these clowns playing at. It appears the county board have gone down the money grabbing route.

Surely a double header makes sense. 2 matches I was looking forward to attending but unfortunately I won't be able to do so now.

Been happening regularly in the football
Don't know what they're at TBH £££££££££££
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on October 08, 2022, 10:20:44 PM
It's hard to know what they are at as I would say you would be lucky to get 10 people that pay in to both games, surely they know that ? Not so much the monetary factor but the inconvenience of spending half your day at Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 09, 2022, 12:10:38 PM
There are two portable toilet cubicles available to the entire crowd. I would suggest this is step one on the list of reasons as to why they don't play double headers at Dunsilly.

Paying fans have been losing out all season.

Look at the double headers Owenbeg is hosting this weekend.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on October 09, 2022, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 09, 2022, 12:10:38 PM
There are two portable toilet cubicles available to the entire crowd. I would suggest this is step one on the list of reasons as to why they don't play double headers at Dunsilly.

Paying fans have been losing out all season.

Look at the double headers Owenbeg is hosting this weekend.

Is that sufficient for one game never mind two ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on October 09, 2022, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 05, 2022, 06:39:35 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2022, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
County final scheduled for Corrigan.A total joke.

Ballycastle and Loughgiel  8)are almost on the doorstep of both participants yet some p***k on the county board has decided  ???to schedule the final some 45 - 50 miles away from both villages.

Price of diesel obviously not considered when making this stupid decision.
What's the split on the gate?

St Johns would'nt need a split on the gate, social club/bar should be bringing in a clondyke considering the games hosted both club & county over the last few seasons!! Well CD played an absolute blinder!

Where is st johns bar located? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 09, 2022, 06:01:10 PM
Upstairs above the changing rooms
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on October 13, 2022, 09:01:24 AM
Very quiet in here for the week before the championship finals
Anyways heres my predictions

Junior final Rasharkin v Glenarm, Glenarm are by a long way the strongest team in this competition. Rasharkin have done well to get to the final but Glenarm will be a bridge too far for them. Glenarm by 5

Intermediate Final Clooney V Cushendun, Cushendun have improved as this has progressed, but Clooney carry a serious goal threat. I went with Clooney before the competition started and I am sticking with them. Clooney by 2

Senior Final Dunloy v Cushendall, before the competition started I went for Cushendall but given the absence of Graffin, Mark Donaghy, Dominic Delargy and big Christy I doubt if they have the strength in depth to beat Dunloy. Dunloy have looked a step above everyone else throughout the championship and are a very well oiled machine at this point. Dunloy by 4.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Intermediate very interesting. Maybe cushendun by 2 for me.

Rasharkin vs Glenarm reads like Glenarm Glenravel last year. Glenarm strong favourites but you never know. I think Rasharkin may beat them.

Are cushendall missing all those ones? That's a big ask then. I wasn't massively impressed in the semi final tbh. I think Dunloy will be a good bit too strong for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on October 13, 2022, 09:32:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Intermediate very interesting. Maybe cushendun by 2 for me.

Rasharkin vs Glenarm reads like Glenarm Glenravel last year. Glenarm strong favourites but you never know. I think Rasharkin may beat them.

Are cushendall missing all those ones? That's a big ask then. I wasn't massively impressed in the semi final tbh. I think Dunloy will be a good bit too strong for them.

Graffin is definitely out, the other three limped off in the semi-final, two of them in the first half so you would have to be very doubtful of them making the final. Big Christy lasted less than 10 minutes although he was very effective in that time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 10:15:51 AM
I couldn't work out what happened McNaughton - either he wrecked his knee or just a hamstring.  Delargy was obviously an injury waiting to happen with the strapping and I wasn't sure if Donaghy was injured or just struggling a bit.

Dunloy for me will be too strong. Portaferry against Slaughtneil should be interesting though Eoghan Sands away travelling apparently and the boy who was sent off is suspended.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 13, 2022, 10:52:52 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 10:15:51 AM
I couldn't work out what happened McNaughton - either he wrecked his knee or just a hamstring.  Delargy was obviously an injury waiting to happen with the strapping and I wasn't sure if Donaghy was injured or just struggling a bit.

Dunloy for me will be too strong. Portaferry against Slaughtneil should be interesting though Eoghan Sands away travelling apparently and the boy who was sent off is suspended.

Slaughtneil will win Ulster handy enough especially if Glen beat them in the football
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 10:54:44 AM
Dunloy will eventually beat them. You could be right though as maybe a bit early.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 13, 2022, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 10:54:44 AM
Dunloy will eventually beat them. You could be right though as maybe a bit early.

Yeah I thought they would have last year, but dont get that feeling this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 13, 2022, 12:09:42 PM
They have seemed to get lessons in those games. Nigel Elliot a big addition this year for Dunloy thi syear but they just don't seem to have ever adapted to how Slaughtneil play aside from that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 01:58:28 PM
Whoever wins on Sunday will have to approach S'neil differently to previous years, they have not had a bitta bother in the games against the Antrim Champions..

S'neil have physicality, skill, speed and knowhow.. The Antrim winners need to match and better that, certainly skill isn't a problem matched and bettered all over the pitch, speed, Dunloy have that, Cushendall possibly lacking that, physicality Cushendall can match S'niel Dunloy are getting there..

The knowhow is how to get over the line when it gets tight and some players in Dunloy and Cushendall have that in Ulster but all the players at S'neil have it, can't underestimate the managers in all of this too McShane has proven to be very good when he has a team that wants to work hard.. great panel of men at Cushendall with Brian at the helm, and Dick has all the experience of playing and managing too..

Portaferry will put up a better show to what Ballycran did last year, but will fall short..

Who's best to play S'niel?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 13, 2022, 02:23:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 01:58:28 PM
Whoever wins on Sunday will have to approach S'neil differently to previous years, they have not had a bitta bother in the games against the Antrim Champions..

S'neil have physicality, skill, speed and knowhow.. The Antrim winners need to match and better that, certainly skill isn't a problem matched and bettered all over the pitch, speed, Dunloy have that, Cushendall possibly lacking that, physicality Cushendall can match S'niel Dunloy are getting there..

The knowhow is how to get over the line when it gets tight and some players in Dunloy and Cushendall have that in Ulster but all the players at S'neil have it, can't underestimate the managers in all of this too McShane has proven to be very good when he has a team that wants to work hard.. great panel of men at Cushendall with Brian at the helm, and Dick has all the experience of playing and managing too..

Portaferry will put up a better show to what Ballycran did last year, but will fall short..

Who's best to play S'niel?

Probably a fair assessment there although I do think Portaferry are a coming team with plenty of pace but little or no physicality barring one or two players.

The two Sand's influence in their scoring has dropped as the year has went on, they don't suit soft pitches and close attention which they'll get in spades with SN.

The lad who got the straight red will probably be available as it's a different competition I believe but I don't he'd be a big loss anyway and I don't see who's going to win them possession in their forwards in the air when space is tight the way SN play.

Irrespective of who wins out in Antrim and obviously Dunloy have timed their training to peak about now (as I thought they were poor in the league)I think SN will be too much for them and due to their physique Cushendall are probably better suited to winter hurling and could cause SN more problems, but they'd need some of those names carrying injuries back in the fold.

It's wee Mickey and the Slaughtneil lads Ulster to lose IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 13, 2022, 03:53:11 PM
I watched the Derry final. Everyone was out in second half. Rogers brought them to another level. Shane McGuigan was excellent
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 13, 2022, 08:56:45 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.

Dunno Slaughtneil have few aces up their sleeves
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2022, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.

I wouldnt be too sure that Dunloy will beat Cushendall.

I suspect the final will be a similar type of match than the Antrim semi final a few years ago between Dunloy and Loughgiel in Ballycastle, where Loughgiel packed the midfield and cut off the Dunloy fast runners.

It wasnt pretty but Loughgiel got the job done that day.

Cushendall have their fair share of big men well able to mix it up in the physical stakes and I suspect they will use that to their advantage to frustrate the Dunloy attack. I think it could well be a battle of the freetakers and wouldnt be expecting a classic free flowing game of hurling.

One thing I did notice was the Dall management team werent afraid to make the calls with their substitutions. Ronan McAteer was brought on to man mark Donal McKinley who seen very little of the ball afterwards and was later substituted. Christy came on at the right time and turned the game in Cushendall's favour, scoring 1-2 in a 10 minute spell before coming off injured.

In last year's Ulster Final in Armagh, Slaughtneil done the exact same thing especially in the second half when Dunloy had the breeze. Dunloy were unable to work the ball past the Slaughtneil half back line and paid the price.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2022, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.

I wouldnt be too sure that Dunloy will beat Cushendall.

I suspect the final will be a similar type of match than the Antrim semi final a few years ago between Dunloy and Loughgiel in Ballycastle, where Loughgiel packed the midfield and cut off the Dunloy fast runners.

It wasnt pretty but Loughgiel got the job done that day.

Cushendall have their fair share of big men well able to mix it up in the physical stakes and I suspect they will use that to their advantage to frustrate the Dunloy attack. I think it could well be a battle of the freetakers and wouldnt be expecting a classic free flowing game of hurling.

One thing I did notice was the Dall management team werent afraid to make the calls with their substitutions. Ronan McAteer was brought on to man mark Donal McKinley who seen very little of the ball afterwards and was later substituted. Christy came on at the right time and turned the game in Cushendall's favour, scoring 1-2 in a 10 minute spell before coming off injured.

In last year's Ulster Final in Armagh, Slaughtneil done the exact same thing especially in the second half when Dunloy had the breeze. Dunloy were unable to work the ball past the Slaughtneil half back line and paid the price.

Very good assessment Coaster, it depends though on Cushendall changing their own game by worrying how Dunloy will play, they probaly feel their own game is enough to beat Dunloy!

Free taking is part of the game and some people are wanting the game to flow but when their own player gets 'fouled' they want a free, crazy lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 11:02:25 AM
They took ages to take Delargy off who could barely walk though. I think they have more options in defense than attack mind you.

I think someone said here Cushendall may be better placed to beat Slaughtneil. I still think Dunloy win this by 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on October 14, 2022, 11:08:47 AM
Cushendall bound to be favourites after that assessment
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2022, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2022, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 14, 2022, 10:37:36 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.

I wouldnt be too sure that Dunloy will beat Cushendall.

I suspect the final will be a similar type of match than the Antrim semi final a few years ago between Dunloy and Loughgiel in Ballycastle, where Loughgiel packed the midfield and cut off the Dunloy fast runners.

It wasnt pretty but Loughgiel got the job done that day.

Cushendall have their fair share of big men well able to mix it up in the physical stakes and I suspect they will use that to their advantage to frustrate the Dunloy attack. I think it could well be a battle of the freetakers and wouldnt be expecting a classic free flowing game of hurling.

One thing I did notice was the Dall management team werent afraid to make the calls with their substitutions. Ronan McAteer was brought on to man mark Donal McKinley who seen very little of the ball afterwards and was later substituted. Christy came on at the right time and turned the game in Cushendall's favour, scoring 1-2 in a 10 minute spell before coming off injured.

In last year's Ulster Final in Armagh, Slaughtneil done the exact same thing especially in the second half when Dunloy had the breeze. Dunloy were unable to work the ball past the Slaughtneil half back line and paid the price.

Very good assessment Coaster, it depends though on Cushendall changing their own game by worrying how Dunloy will play, they probaly feel their own game is enough to beat Dunloy!

Free taking is part of the game and some people are wanting the game to flow but when their own player gets 'fouled' they want a free, crazy lol

To be honest I think Dunloy only know how to play the one way and that is to rely on the speed of their midfielders and forwards driving forward.

Eoghan Campbell touched on that in the Irish News recently. Id say Cushendall have copped onto that aspect of the Dunloy game and may have something up their sleeve to counter that.

On a heavy and wet surface the Dunloy running game might not suit and they have been caught out in the past by Slaughtneil so do Dunloy have a Plan B. I suppose we'll find out on Sunday.

The lack of a Plan B cost them in last year's Ulster Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lord Antrim on October 14, 2022, 09:18:23 PM
Anyone know what the craic is with u20's championship ?
LGiel beat BCastle last week in a tight game and now it appears that could be the only game played .
Hearing u20 county managers have quit cos of the shambles.
Crazy situation if we are trying to develop young men for senior team and also trying to stop drop off.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 10:01:02 PM
That's shambolic if true.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 14, 2022, 05:54:35 PM
From very early on in the year people have convinced themselves that it is Cushendall's year. One last push for a lot of their players etc.
Personally, I'm not seeing where they have backed any of that expectation up and I don't see anything in them to match Dunloy. Though, just for the sake of change, I'd like them to win.

Dunloy by 8+

Yeah I don't see it either though I hope I'm wrong. They lack pace in the forwards and with injuries I don't think they have the depth. If McManus doesn't get scores where do they get them? You look at Dunloy and Cunning, Molloy, Elliot x2 and the list goes on can get them.

McManus in his 14th final. That is some going.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lord Antrim on October 14, 2022, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 10:01:02 PM
That's shambolic if true.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2022/10/14/news/antrim_u20_management_team_step_down-2861748/
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 14, 2022, 10:24:43 PM
That's awful. Basically reads we have ambitions and you do not so we're done.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: old timers on October 15, 2022, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on October 14, 2022, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 14, 2022, 10:01:02 PM
That's shambolic if true.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2022/10/14/news/antrim_u20_management_team_step_down-2861748/

How many players are there on the u20 panel?  Does several make a big impact or are they all starters for the U20?  Not familiar with the younger ones now - but What about the rest of the u17-u20s-  that committed to the group?  Disappointing situation all round -  everyone has lost out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 06:21:46 PM
Just back from Dunsilly two decent games last game in the balance for a while but Clooney eventually woke up midway through the second half and created more chances and took them when it mattered.

Glenarm came through after Rasharkin had but up a great battle, point separated them at half time but Glenarm were worthy winners in the end..

One senior game to go!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Would ye whist on October 15, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
Not much social media coverage of the finals today or football last night, called it out before the PRO is only interested when Belfast teams are involved, go past the Applegreen and he doesn't want to know
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 15, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
Not much social media coverage of the finals today or football last night, called it out before the PRO is only interested when Belfast teams are involved, go past the Applegreen and he doesn't want to know

Seen some stuff there on Antrim FB and the games were stream to..

Back in my day you'd be lucky to get results in the Irish news never mind streamed live coverage..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on October 15, 2022, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2022, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 15, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
Not much social media coverage of the finals today or football last night, called it out before the PRO is only interested when Belfast teams are involved, go past the Applegreen and he doesn't want to know

Seen some stuff there on Antrim FB and the games were stream to..

Back in my day you'd be lucky to get results in the Irish news never mind streamed live coverage..

Free the Saffron Voice 2....one of  those two lads should stand for PRO at County Convention.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Would ye whist on October 15, 2022, 07:47:21 PM
Cost of living for some people MR2, you would usually put up to be a man of the people but it seems your not the puppet on here for the county board

A this isn't back in your day, this is today


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Quote from: Would ye whist on October 15, 2022, 06:39:53 PM
Not much social media coverage of the finals today or football last night, called it out before the PRO is only interested when Belfast teams are involved, go past the Applegreen and he doesn't want to know

Seen some stuff there on Antrim FB and the games were stream to..

Back in my day you'd be lucky to get results in the Irish news never mind streamed live coverage..
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Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 16, 2022, 04:25:18 PM
Dunloy got there in the end hit a massive challenge from Cushendall, as we expected but they just didn't have the scoring power to get over the line. Dunloy stuck to their guns but they would need to improve for Ulster, they probably will. Two very poor goals Dunloy conceded
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 05:18:07 PM
Really good game for the neutral, Dall off to a flyer with that flukey goal after a minute, points trading through to half time and the lead changed a few times, Cushendall didn't allow Dunloy to have much freedom and scores were hard earned..

Dunloy eventually broke to score a goal and put a better gloss on things, 6 point win but wasn't that much overall l
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on October 16, 2022, 05:50:38 PM
Dunloy rode their luck at the end, 3 points up and 2 super clearances off the line, head up the parl and scored a goal themselves.

Far too many wides from cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 16, 2022, 08:31:43 PM
Quietest I can remember a board after an Antrim final 🫤
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 08:49:05 PM
Dunloy proved why they are such good champions, no panic and stuck to the game plan. Cushendall can feel they let that one go. Load of wides when it mattered. They'll be back no doubt.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2022, 08:49:41 PM
It was a very good game.  Cushendall really put it up to Dunloy and had their tactics spot on. Dunloy had spare men at the back and Kevin Molloy used the ball very well to set up attacks. It wasn't really a six point game as cushendall should have took a few points late on and made it tighter but you always felt Dunloy had enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 09:18:00 PM
One of the better finals, in the melting pot for a good while, enjoyed it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 09:34:22 PM
A word for Kevin Parke also, let it go and wasn't the centre of attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2022, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 09:34:22 PM
A word for Kevin Parke also, let it go and wasn't the centre of attention.

The boys wanted to hurl...

Massive difference with football and hurling

Both junior and intermediate went off with no hassle either
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 17, 2022, 08:10:57 AM
Was a great final for the neutral,Cdall management team got tactics bang on and probably got the most they could have out of the team,ultimately dunloy came by scores easier.Don't think Dunloy got near Cdall goal other than at the end when Cdall had went for broke. I don't see yesterday's performance bothering Slaughneil tbh, will take a whole lot more from a dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on October 17, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 09:34:22 PM
A word for Kevin Parke also, let it go and wasn't the centre of attention.
I honestly thought he was just ok,a lot of the time these things even themselves out, massive penalty shout against young lad with yellow helmet in first half missed, dragged down inside by his helmet, KP right there and waved play on!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on October 17, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 16, 2022, 09:34:22 PM
A word for Kevin Parke also, let it go and wasn't the centre of attention.
I honestly thought he was just ok,a lot of the time these things even themselves out, massive penalty shout against young lad with yellow helmet in first half missed, dragged down inside by his helmet, KP right there and waved play on!

A good indicator of a ref would be how the crowd react, I was with the managers father who bleeds marron/white there was no real issues with how Kevin ref'd. and trust me he'd let me know in a heart beat..

I think there was a helmet pull by a Dall player in the middle of the pitch but in fairness the players didnt complain that much.. Managers will also question the calls, that won't change..

By in large it was hassle free, from where I was standing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 17, 2022, 12:04:25 PM
Delighted with a win yesterday and better prep for ulster than the open games we've been getting including last years final. Cushendall are the ultimate grinders and brought their A game yesterday. Our lads stuck to the plan and just better shooting got us over the line. We have a few weeks now to get a bit more  out of the players which is going to needed for Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 12:23:21 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on October 17, 2022, 12:04:25 PM
Delighted with a win yesterday and better prep for ulster than the open games we've been getting including last years final. Cushendall are the ultimate grinders and brought their A game yesterday. Our lads stuck to the plan and just better shooting got us over the line. We have a few weeks now to get a bit more  out of the players which is going to needed for Ulster.

As you said there is time to get more out of the lads, felt some lads only played in fits and starts, if they all click in that forward line then it will really test a very good S'niel team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on October 17, 2022, 02:04:16 PM
Really enjoyed the match yesterday, Cushendall gave it a real go although Dunloy looked the better team for the last 45 minutes. I thought the Dunloy half back line were excellent and really got on top and turned over a lot of ball. Cushendall never really got to work the ball through the lines around midfield which they are normally excellent at.
Having said that Cushendall shot some vital wides in the last 10 minutes and possibly went for goals when easy points were available particularly when they were 2 points down in the 59th minute. Ignored an easy point and tried to work the goal which was well stopped on the line and then Dunloy went straight down and scored at the other end.
An excellent game overall but Dunloys stronger bench made a difference as the second half wore on.
Congratulations to Dunloy and good luck for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 17, 2022, 02:08:15 PM
I thought Kevin Molloy was MOTM. Cushendll played it into his hands regularly and he used it well.

Would agree with your analyssi there keep her low.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2022, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 17, 2022, 02:08:15 PM
I thought Kevin Molloy was MOTM. Cushendll played it into his hands regularly and he used it well.

Would agree with your analyssi there keep her low.

Kevin was the spare man so he made sure that he was on the ball a lot across his 45, and no better man to have as a spare man in fairness. Him or shorty working that space will use the ball wisely

For me Neil was man of the match, he was in corner forward midfield and fullback, he got through a ton of work, his stats would be interesting to read.

The ball fell unfortunately to the wrong Cushendall players for those 'handy' shots, not sure how injured Magill was but would have him on earlier (if fit) as he would have taken those scores
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
Devenish All Stars team named tonight. Well done everyone.

https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1585715477145346049?t=FbRe7Yp2Vpkwcpj7QbjHIA&s=19
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 27, 2022, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
Devenish All Stars team named tonight. Well done everyone.

https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1585715477145346049?t=FbRe7Yp2Vpkwcpj7QbjHIA&s=19

Harmless stuff but what a farce it is lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Highland Paddy on October 28, 2022, 12:54:10 AM
When do Dunloy play in the Ulster hurling? Is it Slaughtneil once again they face?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 07:17:08 AM
Slaughtneil play Portaferry. I think Dunloy are straight into the final? Not sure on date.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 28, 2022, 08:26:57 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 28, 2022, 07:17:08 AM
Slaughtneil play Portaferry. I think Dunloy are straight into the final? Not sure on date.

Portaferry play Slaughtneil on the 20th of November in Corrigan, so I'd expect the final to be played two weeks later..

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 05, 2022, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 27, 2022, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
Devenish All Stars team named tonight. Well done everyone.

https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1585715477145346049?t=FbRe7Yp2Vpkwcpj7QbjHIA&s=19

Harmless stuff but what a farce it is lol
. Agreed!Pure dung
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2022, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 05, 2022, 12:24:04 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 27, 2022, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 27, 2022, 09:17:19 PM
Devenish All Stars team named tonight. Well done everyone.

https://twitter.com/AontroimGAA/status/1585715477145346049?t=FbRe7Yp2Vpkwcpj7QbjHIA&s=19

Harmless stuff but what a farce it is lol
. Agreed!Pure dung

Jeezz it's a bitta craic, the players are getting a bitta recognition, irrespective of how players are picked and the format. The All stars at inter county have been going for decades, I'm sure we ain't unique in having a end of year gala night.

It changed this year and will probably change a bit next year

Your 15 will be totally different to the next person
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.

Good luck ,we lost to Setanta today
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.

Good luck ,we lost to Setanta today

Think Setanta will be too strong
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.

Good luck ,we lost to Setanta today

Think Setanta will be too strong

Glenarm be no pushovers. Couple points either way
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on November 14, 2022, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.

Good luck ,we lost to Setanta today

Think Setanta will be too strong

Glenarm be no pushovers. Couple points either way
I would fancy Glenarm, they have good forwards for this grade.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on November 14, 2022, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 12, 2022, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 12, 2022, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 12, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Good start to their Ulster campaign for Glenarm today. 24 point winners over Carrickmacross down in Inniskeen. I believe it's Sean Treacys up next in the semis.

Another Ulster win today for Glenarm. Great to see it. They now play Setanta from Donegal in two weeks time in the Ulster final.

Good luck ,we lost to Setanta today

Think Setanta will be too strong

Glenarm be no pushovers. Couple points either way
I would fancy Glenarm, they have good forwards for this grade.

Setanta have 8, dont forget they are county senior champs. Saying that we lost our county junior and they onlyt beat us by 7-and we didnt play well. It will be tight
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Wtf?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 10:12:15 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Wtf?

Exactly, so will they just move around with him as he goes?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Thought there was only one playing?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Thought there was only one playing?

The younger one was playing all year, but I was told that the older one was due back to play championship as he was travelling.

That came from a Liatroim member well versed in all of this.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Thought there was only one playing?

The younger one was playing all year, but I was told that the older one was due back to play championship as he was travelling.

That came from a Liatroim member well versed in all of this.

Pretty much what I had heard as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 12:15:06 PM
Clooney have been impressive all year, they haven't showed too many weaknesses and when needed to dig deep they have that also, bench probably not the strongest but at this level its all about your best 15 and they have a very good 15.. Haven't seen the other team but Clooney beat all in front of them this year and you can't ask for more than that..

8/13 is a very good price, as is 6/4 for Liatroim, Carrickmore v Middletown game should also be decent but I think it will be an Armagh v Antrim final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 01:28:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Thought there was only one playing?

The younger one was playing all year, but I was told that the older one was due back to play championship as he was travelling.

That came from a Liatroim member well versed in all of this.

Pretty much what I had heard as well.


Will they ever end up back at Rossa? 😳
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 01:42:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 12:07:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 15, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.

Thought there was only one playing?

The younger one was playing all year, but I was told that the older one was due back to play championship as he was travelling.

That came from a Liatroim member well versed in all of this.

Pretty much what I had heard as well.

Only the one on the teamsheet vrs Castleblayney, so the elder mustn't have transferred or is still on his travels.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 02:52:46 PM
Fontenoys by 9 in the end, didn't see that one coming, maybe Down hurling is stronger than I thought..
We'll know better tomorrow all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 02:52:46 PM
Fontenoys by 9 in the end, didn't see that one coming, maybe Down hurling is stronger than I thought..
We'll know better tomorrow all the same.

Great result there. Other match away to extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: themac_23 on November 19, 2022, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 02:52:46 PM
Fontenoys by 9 in the end, didn't see that one coming, maybe Down hurling is stronger than I thought..
We'll know better tomorrow all the same.

Great result there. Other match away to extra time

Watching the stream here, carrickmore wides and 2 soft goals killed them. Side note. Something needs done about players constantly pulling their helmets off every time they are down, was there not some rule introduced about this?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 19, 2022, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 02:52:46 PM
Fontenoys by 9 in the end, didn't see that one coming, maybe Down hurling is stronger than I thought..
We'll know better tomorrow all the same.

Great result there. Other match away to extra time

Watching the stream here, carrickmore wides and 2 soft goals killed them. Side note. Something needs done about players constantly pulling their helmets off every time they are down, was there not some rule introduced about this?

Not sure

But what I would say is the standard of hurling officiating at Ulster club is very poor
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2022, 05:08:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 19, 2022, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 02:52:46 PM
Fontenoys by 9 in the end, didn't see that one coming, maybe Down hurling is stronger than I thought..
We'll know better tomorrow all the same.

Great result there. Other match away to extra time

Watching the stream here, carrickmore wides and 2 soft goals killed them. Side note. Something needs done about players constantly pulling their helmets off every time they are down, was there not some rule introduced about this?

Not sure

But what I would say is the standard of hurling officiating at Ulster club is very poor

Your own was refereeing it, good ref
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 19, 2022, 05:16:27 PM
Yeah there are some exceptions, Derry ones above average . Far too stop/start in Ulster , camogie refs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 20, 2022, 12:06:27 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.
a ballbag
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 12:26:27 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 20, 2022, 12:06:27 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 15, 2022, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 15, 2022, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 15, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I'd expect Clooney to be a bit strong for the Fontenoys, but not by much as the fontenoys did well in the transfer window last winter.

Farcical situation down there on this one.

What exactly happened?

The new manager brought his two sons with him.
a ballbag

Only one son played, but sounds better that all the kids were there..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ck on November 29, 2022, 05:48:06 PM
Was at the Clooney match. Very hard luck. Was gutted for them. Knowing the men they are, there's no doubt they'll be back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 06:41:17 PM
Can't see Antrim winning at any grade this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 06:42:08 PM
Get off this thread  ;D

(Unfortunately I would say you could be right)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 07:43:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2022, 06:42:08 PM
Get off this thread  ;D

(Unfortunately I would say you could be right)

Sorry lol but only decent hurling thread on here.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it

I think it will be tighter the year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2022, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it
Right!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2022, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it

I think it will be tighter the year
it won't and imo the reason why will be lack of ball winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2022, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it

I think it will be tighter the year
it won't and imo the reason why will be lack of ball winners.

Its not like the sleeping giant to have a pop at Dunloy lol!!

Yeah I'd say it will be tough, but Dunloy do have good fielders of the ball its whether they have a someone stuck up their backside for 60 plus minutes will determine if they come out of the other side, Cushendall tried their best to be that physical with them and it nearly worked, but the pace and fitness came through, hopefully the weather and pitch will be good to give us all the game we are looking forward to
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2022, 09:00:30 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2022, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it
Right!!!!!  :o

;D

A few years excepted lol.

Yeah SG unfortunately I think you're right but hope you're wrong. Nigel Elliot should make a decent difference to Dunloy mind you and the younger guys are another year stronger. It's an age old antrim problem football or hurling in that we don't have enough ball winning forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on November 30, 2022, 09:22:46 AM
You would think Dunloy would need a huge improvement from the Cushendall game as they struggled for long spells, they have it in them (I think)  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
I do, maybe wishful I know, wonder have they trained to peak later in the hurling. Cushendall a hard team to play against too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 30, 2022, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 30, 2022, 09:36:58 AM
I do, maybe wishful I know, wonder have they trained to peak later in the hurling. Cushendall a hard team to play against too.

The Cushendall match might actually have been the best prep that wasn't there in previous years. However its been that long ago now it probably counts for nothing.

The Portaferry game was of no use to SN either so be interesting to see how the teams turn up on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on November 30, 2022, 01:28:46 PM
With Glenarm losing the junior final at the weekend we could be looking at another Antrim whitewash in the Ulster championship. As has been said earlier on here it is very hard to judge both teams, Dunloy haven't played for ages and Slaughtneil walked through everything in front of them so far. Having said that any team that puts 19 points on Portaferry is impressive. Really looking forward to it, should be a cracker hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on November 30, 2022, 06:46:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on November 29, 2022, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 29, 2022, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 07:36:02 PM
Going to be difficult but anything can happen.

Hoping for a improved performance from the last meeting, that's all you can ask for, S'niel have raised the bar in Ulster club hurling. Up to the rest to lift it

I think it will be tighter the year
it won't and imo the reason why will be lack of ball winners.

Its not like the sleeping giant to have a pop at Dunloy lol!!

Yeah I'd say it will be tough, but Dunloy do have good fielders of the ball its whether they have a someone stuck up their backside for 60 plus minutes will determine if they come out of the other side, Cushendall tried their best to be that physical with them and it nearly worked, but the pace and fitness came through, hopefully the weather and pitch will be good to give us all the game we are looking forward to
Jesus that's not a pop lol.Just don't see them having the ball winners, they do have some nice wee forwards, Nigel all year I said would make a difference and I don't think he struck leather in the county final so he's a performance in him.I thought Portaferry were terrible and Sneil untested so hopefully Dunloy gives them a rattle! I just can't see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 01, 2022, 04:17:38 PM
Huge  congratulations to Domnic Kearns and the team at Fibrus on their new sponsorship deal with Antrim for the next five years.

https://hoganstand.com/article/index/325926
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 02, 2022, 08:27:42 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 01, 2022, 04:17:38 PM
Huge  congratulations to Domnic Kearns and the team at Fibrus on their new sponsorship deal with Antrim for the next five years.

https://hoganstand.com/article/index/325926

Tell the hoor to hurry up on the Ballygalget Road.  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 12:31:35 PM
Game free to stream

https://youtu.be/ScaLo6TIHJE
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 01:43:05 PM
Can't afford these wides!! In a game crusts close these need to go over
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 02:05:19 PM
Dunloy taking their goal chances, SN aren't, they'll need to sink a few in the second half.

Tight game still there for SN, but Dunloy in the driving seat.

Owens doing okay on the whistle, doesn't referee much club hurling but does a few senior championship games in Down
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:07:18 PM
No issues with the ref at the minute...

It's a 5 point wind though so clearances and style may change this second half

Nigel having a blinder
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:12:17 PM
Divided loyalties for me. Dunloy is my mothers  club and my cousin manages Sleacht Neill.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:24:26 PM
She's nip an tuck Slaughtneil winning 2nd half 6 points to Dunloys 2 they have the momentum now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
All square
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:32:25 PM
All level in Slaughtneils hands now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:35:18 PM
Dunloy hit the front up one fantastic score. Some great scores today.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 02:37:40 PM
Dunloy winning their share of the physical collisions and subs have added impetus
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:38:54 PM
Some 50/50 calls going against Dunloy

Edge of seat stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:39:28 PM
Dunloy 2. 11

Sleacht Neill. 0. 15

About 7 minutes left.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Ghost on December 04, 2022, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:38:54 PM
Some 50/50 calls going against Dunloy

Edge of seat stuff

Ref seems to be letting a lot go. Basics letting Slaughtneil down
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:43:21 PM
I think referee having a great game he's trying to let them hurl. A lot of wides by Sleacht Neill.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 02:45:20 PM
SN not taking the easy point ..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2022, 02:46:31 PM
Right blow her up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 02:48:16 PM
Sleacht Neill stick work letting them down. Congrats Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
In general scrappy enough on a sticky looking pitch, lots of missed lifts etc etc but well done Dunloy.

Did Nicky Mckeague score two from the bench?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:53:53 PM
Not sure think Decy smyth scored couple from bench
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference

Croke park hosts a fraction of the games Armagh Athletic grounds hosts
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2022, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:53:53 PM
Not sure think Decy smyth scored couple from bench

Did the same in county final too.

That game could have went either way. Great to see Dunloy win. Be interesting to see what they do against southern opposition.

Ballyhale and ballygunner would beat most county teams though    :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 04, 2022, 03:03:30 PM
A serious effort by the neighbours,worked like dogs all day and put the body on the line.Sneil looked poor and as someone said above stick work was awful at times.Take nothing away from the Victors. Now it's up to everyone to catch Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference

Croke park hosts a fraction of the games Armagh Athletic grounds hosts

I know that's why is in great nick and there is no problems with lifts, as you can see in the Ballyhale game..

Btw Fennelly is still a monster!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Do Dunloy now face Ballyhale or St Thomas's?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 03:09:34 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Do Dunloy now face Ballyhale or St Thomas's?
Not sure I hope it's St Thomas's though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 04, 2022, 03:09:41 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Do Dunloy now face Ballyhale or St Thomas's?
St Thomas
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2022, 03:09:52 PM
I *think* it would be st Thomas's.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 03:33:28 PM
Crokes on top here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Do Dunloy now face Ballyhale or St Thomas's?

Definitely St Thomas
Ballyhale might not be playing anyone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 04, 2022, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Do Dunloy now face Ballyhale or St Thomas's?

Definitely St Thomas
Ballyhale might not be playing anyone

That was some game, bar a fluke goal this could be in extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2022, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference

Croke park hosts a fraction of the games Armagh Athletic grounds hosts
Was at the match and the surface was like a billiard table compared to a lot of places in December.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 04:08:42 PM
Ulster clubs are traditionally very competitive at the semi final stage and do well against Galway teams non more so than Dunloy themselves. However I'd be a wee bit worried about only scoring 12 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2022, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 04, 2022, 04:08:42 PM
Ulster clubs are traditionally very competitive at the semi final stage and do well against Galway teams non more so than Dunloy themselves. However I'd be a wee bit worried about only scoring 12 points.
Not much quality from either team but Dunloy won't be worried about that this evening (or tomorrow!). There has been a lot said and written about how Dunloy weren't able to cope with S'neils physicality - not today. Despite being smaller in most positions they stood their ground and gave S'neil their fill of it when required. They also did well to ride out an onslaught in the second half. It looked like their lead was going to be overtaken as S'neil were motoring at one stage but couldn't land a killer blow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 04, 2022, 04:36:40 PM
Congratulations Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 04, 2022, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 04, 2022, 03:03:30 PM
A serious effort by the neighbours,worked like dogs all day and put the body on the line.Sneil looked poor and as someone said above stick work was awful at times.Take nothing away from the Victors. Now it's up to everyone to catch Dunloy

Yeah that was my take, Sneil very so poor for long periods, wrong decisions, the amount of lifts Brendan Rodgers missed was crazy but I suppose they were right there at the end. Dunloy fought like dogs all day. Sneil FB line very dodgy all day 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2022, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference

Croke park hosts a fraction of the games Armagh Athletic grounds hosts
Was at the match and the surface was like a billiard table compared to a lot of places in December.

It looked sticky Crokes looked unreal, thinking Parnell's for semi final.. dates available yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 04, 2022, 07:17:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 04, 2022, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2022, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
Look at the surface at Croke compared to Armagh, world of difference

Croke park hosts a fraction of the games Armagh Athletic grounds hosts
Was at the match and the surface was like a billiard table compared to a lot of places in December.

It looked sticky Crokes looked unreal, thinking Parnell's for semi final.. dates available yet?

18th December
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 07:49:29 PM
Didn't think it would be this side of xmas
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 04, 2022, 09:08:26 PM
Semi Final venue confirmed for Croke Park 18th December
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 04, 2022, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 07:49:29 PM
Didn't think it would be this side of xmas

Yes semis always set for before Xmas, football was also supposed to be before Xmas but they are in January now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 04, 2022, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Walt Jabsco on December 04, 2022, 09:08:26 PM
Semi Final venue confirmed for Croke Park 18th December

Where did you see that ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Walt Jabsco on December 04, 2022, 10:02:32 PM
Croke Park Master Fixture List 2023      
Date   Fixture   Expected Attendance / Notes
Nov-22      
19th November    Leinster GAA Club Football Semi Finals    5,000
27th November    Leinster GAA Club Hurling Semi Finals    5,000
Dec-22      
4th December    Leinster Club Football & Hurling Finals    5,000
10th December   LGFA Club Finals   5,000
17th December    Camogie Club Finals    5,000
18th December    Senior Club Hurling  Semi-Finals    5,000
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 05, 2022, 09:58:51 AM
Semi-Final v St Thomas was scheduled for 17th Dec but there's a club wedding. Game has been pushed back to the following day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2022, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 05, 2022, 09:58:51 AM
Semi-Final v St Thomas was scheduled for 17th Dec but there's a club wedding. Game has been pushed back to the following day.

Not sure that is going to be the case, not sure GAA will be wanting to open Croker on the day of the World Cup Final.

Could be wrong but I'd have thought a double header on the Saturday would be the way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 05, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Just been confirmed to our players it's in croke park 18th
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2022, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on December 05, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Just been confirmed to our players it's in croke park 18th

Dont think be too many lf them unhappy if that's the outcome  big wide open pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 06, 2022, 08:02:19 AM
Venues or dates not settled yet going by this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41022329.html
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 06, 2022, 08:02:19 AM
Venues or dates not settled yet going by this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41022329.html

Would the later date suit Dunloy? I know they has some niggly injuries and that would certainly help, though the surface at Croke would also help both teams.

At this point though I'd be putting my own team first regardless of a club wedding, if it worked in my favour to play it at the right time I would but if changing it meant I was able to prepare better and have a better chance then I'd take that option
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 06, 2022, 11:53:11 AM
Dunloy should play it on the 18th. They are on a high and full of confidence. That performance has been coming and 2 weeks is a sufficient timeframe to be ready to go again. They are the best club hurling team to come out of Antrim since Loughgiel of 2012. They'll give anyone a real good go!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
It'd be interesting to see their pace in Croke park. Watching highlights back there and Coby Cunning looks as good as they, and antrim, have again. Scored points at key times and has strengthened himself up a lot and seems well fit for the physical stuff as well as being mobile.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 06, 2022, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
It'd be interesting to see their pace in Croke park. Watching highlights back there and Coby Cunning looks as good as they, and antrim, have again. Scored points at key times and has strengthened himself up a lot and seems well fit for the physical stuff as well as being mobile.

Their attacking options are frightening: Coby, Keelan, Seaan, Nigel, Ronan, Anton, Shorty, Nicky and Decky being almost fully fit again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 06, 2022, 11:53:11 AM
Dunloy should play it on the 18th. They are on a high and full of confidence. That performance has been coming and 2 weeks is a sufficient timeframe to be ready to go again. They are the best club hurling team to come out of Antrim since Loughgiel of 2012. They'll give anyone a real good go!!
That performance!!Was Dunloy really that amazing or was Sneil bad? Game was won by the better team on the day but I didn't think Dunloy was amazing at all! Rewatched the game last night,Sneil were shocking bad all over the field and still had chances to win it.It will take a hell of a lot more to beat St Thomas. Cdall team that reached AI Final next best team to Shamrocks 2012 IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 05:12:18 PM
They scraped through really but tbh with the rivalry between those two I thought that was always how it was going to be. Cushendall's ai final team probably not even their best team. The year de lasalle beat them was a real sickener. I think they'd have been in with a shout in the final though if it was Bally hale that year they'd maybe have been a bit strong.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 05:12:18 PM
They scraped through really but tbh with the rivalry between those two I thought that was always how it was going to be. Cushendall's ai final team probably not even their best team. The year de lasalle beat them was a real sickener. I think they'd have been in with a shout in the final though if it was Bally hale that year they'd maybe have been a bit strong.
Am not taking away from the result but just making the point that it was a great result certainly not a performance for the ages. I'd still hold that Cdall team ahead of current dunloy team, tho as someone said age is on there side and the experience gained of an AI run is priceless, all set for dominating for a day or two you'd think. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 06:48:02 PM
Let's not kid ourselves... This Dunloy team have won 4 in a row, and they bate a team who have pushed and were unlucky in 2 all Ireland semi finals against one eventual winner, who won their final handy..

Dunloy didn't allow S'neil to play as well as they could have, and took their chances, it's a big monkey off their back also.

St Thomas's play similar and physically similar so it's a 50/50 IMO

As Tommy said that Cushendall team (all Ireland team) was no where near as good as the team that played De La salle, was at that game in Parnell and unfortunately it didn't happen, also for me losing against Loughrea is their biggest loss though that has no bearing on anything lol

Ballyhale Ballygunner will be the final in most peoples views but let's get past the semis first
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 07:15:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 06:48:02 PM
Let's not kid ourselves... This Dunloy team have won 4 in a row, and they bate a team who have pushed and were unlucky in 2 all Ireland semi finals against one eventual winner, who won their final handy..

Dunloy didn't allow S'neil to play as well as they could have, and took their chances, it's a big monkey off their back also.

St Thomas's play similar and physically similar so it's a 50/50 IMO

As Tommy said that Cushendall team (all Ireland team) was no where near as good as the team that played De La salle, was at that game in Parnell and unfortunately it didn't happen, also for me losing against Loughrea is their biggest loss though that has no bearing on anything lol

Ballyhale Ballygunner will be the final in most peoples views but let's get past the semis first
outside of loughgiels performance against Nap I held that Sneil performance against Ballyhale as good as any Ulster team but that's 3 years ago for a dual club with multiple players training round the clock with Derry and club hurling and football, that's not near the same team MR2. Not even a shadow!! Am not taking away from Dunloy I think they've more to give against St Thomas, am simply saying that was no master class. It was a result!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 05:12:18 PM
They scraped through really but tbh with the rivalry between those two I thought that was always how it was going to be. Cushendall's ai final team probably not even their best team. The year de lasalle beat them was a real sickener. I think they'd have been in with a shout in the final though if it was Bally hale that year they'd maybe have been a bit strong.
Am not taking away from the result but just making the point that it was a great result certainly not a performance for the ages. I'd still hold that Cdall team ahead of current dunloy team, tho as someone said age is on there side and the experience gained of an AI run is priceless, all set for dominating for a day or two you'd think.

No I agree with you that they didn't play that well but I also think it will be the making of that team.

The cushendall thing I dunno about. They are very different teams. Cushendall always massively strong defensively but less scoring forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on December 06, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
Any word on whether it's a double header at croke park ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: podge on December 06, 2022, 09:09:32 PM
Any word on whether it's a double header at croke park ?
confirmed for 18th.  1:30 & 3:30
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

You'll be out of that box soon enough as Loughgiel are building  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 07, 2022, 08:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

You'll be out of that box soon enough as Loughgiel are building  ;D

;D ;D ;D

It really is hard to hide the bitterness...... sorry I mean rivalry  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 07, 2022, 08:59:24 AM
I'd say the difference between the Cushendall team back then or probably any team previously is a better crop of forwards for Dunloy currently. There was never an issue of developing good defences in those teams but it was forwards that maybe were somewhat lacking.

Different game now as it has developed over the past even ten years so very hard to compare across the ages.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2022, 09:07:24 AM
Even their defense now is fantastic. Campbell and two Burkes. Yeah I agree on forwards.

I honestly agree with SG here. Dunloy weren't fantastic at all Sunday I thought. I also do think it was going to take that kind of game to beat Slaughtneil and that it will be the making of them so it doesn't matter.

Loughgiel for me are definitely on the up too. Sure they're winning nearly as many underage titles as St Brigids in the football. It'll be interesting to see how they improve over the next couple of years though it will take a lot to stop that Dunloy team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 07, 2022, 08:59:24 AM
I'd say the difference between the Cushendall team back then or probably any team previously is a better crop of forwards for Dunloy currently. There was never an issue of developing good defences in those teams but it was forwards that maybe were somewhat lacking.

Different game now as it has developed over the past even ten years so very hard to compare across the ages.

It's taking your chances when they arrive, Loughgiel managed that and the rest is history, they don't come up as often as you think. This crop of players Dunloy have need to take their chance, and while winning 5 out of 6 championships or whatever they have done is great, but it should be 5 out of 6 chances of getting to Croke, then you have a chance.

Was heading down until being told that we are out for Sunday piss up in Belfast that Sunday!! Will have to watch in house before heading out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2022, 09:26:31 AM
I see some nonsense has started from Ballyhale with Fennelly saying they were disrespected in the winners speech by Ballyguner. Also what to watch - the world cup final or that match lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry

My point is. Slaughtneil we're not in my mind going whole way. After Dunloy game I've not changed my mind on that and they still could have won bar a fluke goal. Put Slaughtneil on back foot completely . I did think they would beat Dunloy
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: blasmere on December 07, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry

My point is. Slaughtneil we're not in my mind going whole way. After Dunloy game I've not changed my mind on that and they still could have won bar a fluke goal. Put Slaughtneil on back foot completely . I did think they would beat Dunloy

Didn't they have almost the whole game to recover from that goal? A team of their stature. Dunloy were ready and hungry on the day, showed in the way they went again after it was level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: blasmere on December 07, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry

My point is. Slaughtneil we're not in my mind going whole way. After Dunloy game I've not changed my mind on that and they still could have won bar a fluke goal. Put Slaughtneil on back foot completely . I did think they would beat Dunloy

Didn't they have almost the whole game to recover from that goal? A team of their stature. Dunloy were ready and hungry on the day, showed in the way they went again after it was level.

They also got back on parity for a while after that goal, but Dunloy made the substitutions to kick on, Slaughtneil couldn't respond accordingly.

Dunloy the better team irrespective of the flukey goal, but not by a whole pile and if they meet next year it would still be a 50/50 game for me.

What was the red card for near the end?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 11:59:27 AM
Quote from: blasmere on December 07, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry

My point is. Slaughtneil we're not in my mind going whole way. After Dunloy game I've not changed my mind on that and they still could have won bar a fluke goal. Put Slaughtneil on back foot completely . I did think they would beat Dunloy

Didn't they have almost the whole game to recover from that goal? A team of their stature. Dunloy were ready and hungry on the day, showed in the way they went again after it was level.

Yeah not disagreeing, they almost did.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 11:14:02 AM
Quote from: blasmere on December 07, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

It wasn't an A game from Dunloy but it was never going to be, SN are superb at stifling and bullying the opposition which they've managed to do successfully the last three times.
Dunloy needed to stand up to that and during the game I think I posted that they were holding their own in the physical collisions which they indeed were so they've improved on that aspect which going into the game was being questioned by us armchair experts and having that part of their game will stand to them against St Thomas' and then a hard (but slippy) sod in Croke Park could allow them to get the forwards flowing the way they can.

I'd give them more than a decent chance against St Thomas' but only a fool would think that the eventual winners aren't coming out of the other semi-final.

If anything Ballygunner have improved but absolutely no one rights off Ballyhale in a one off championship game.

winner is in the Ballyhale/Ballygunner game. Slaughtneil for me were never going to win AI and a fluke goal got Dunloy over the line against them

A fluke goal a great save some splendid points, well taken goal and some hard defending... Back in your box now

You are a wile angry man, my point was not a swipe at anyone.

Yeah the fluke goal  ;) seems like a swipe to me  ;D

Like I said, back in your box  ;D

Put some  ;D in there in case you think I'm being angry

My point is. Slaughtneil we're not in my mind going whole way. After Dunloy game I've not changed my mind on that and they still could have won bar a fluke goal. Put Slaughtneil on back foot completely . I did think they would beat Dunloy

Didn't they have almost the whole game to recover from that goal? A team of their stature. Dunloy were ready and hungry on the day, showed in the way they went again after it was level.

They also got back on parity for a while after that goal, but Dunloy made the substitutions to kick on, Slaughtneil couldn't respond accordingly.

Dunloy the better team irrespective of the flukey goal, but not by a whole pile and if they meet next year it would still be a 50/50 game for me.

What was the red card for near the end?

They were better team, not denying that, but a flukey goal was needed to get them over line, completely freak goal. Red card for a stamp-out of order
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
Anything of note come out of the county convention?

Was there any motions that got passed or some put on hold?

Hopefully (for the Derry wans) the motion of banning flukey goals was passed  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2022, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
Anything of note come out of the county convention?

Was there any motions that got passed or some put on hold?

Hopefully (for the Derry wans) the motion of banning flukey goals was passed  ;D

League restructuring in football is being re considered. Whether this is for 2023 or 2024 is unclear. Ccc /CB made no motions / recommendations as to their preferred options so clubs will re convene in Jan  and probably a decision by Feb.!

U15 All County Leagues to have unlimited subs !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2022, 05:02:44 PM
That U15 one is an odd one. What prompted that and why specifically under 15 only?? Are the lower ages unlimited subs??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2022, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2022, 05:02:44 PM
That U15 one is an odd one. What prompted that and why specifically under 15 only?? Are the lower ages unlimited subs??

Some clubs have bigger squads and wanted to give every lad a run out.   I can appreciate their viewpoint but hammers smaller clubs again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 07, 2022, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 07, 2022, 08:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

You'll be out of that box soon enough as Loughgiel are building  ;D

;D ;D ;D

It really is hard to hide the bitterness...... sorry I mean rivalry  ;D
Not bitter in the slightest,Current bench mark in Antrim & Ulster!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 07, 2022, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 07, 2022, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 07, 2022, 08:49:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 06, 2022, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Are you saying they are too old now? So be even worse next year based on that synopsis?

I never said though it was a classic or great performance it was job done against the reigning champions for past load of years.

Getting over the line handsomely or ugly is all that matters..
No am saying they've a lot of continuous miles on the clock, that's all I said. The result is all dunloy will and should care about but it wasn't this performance that was referred too. I really forgot your not really aloud an opinion in here. I'll get back in my box lol

You'll be out of that box soon enough as Loughgiel are building  ;D

;D ;D ;D

It really is hard to hide the bitterness...... sorry I mean rivalry  ;D
Not bitter in the slightest,Current bench mark in Antrim & Ulster!!

After being at the game I would agree 100% with Sleeping Giants analysis. Great result for Dunloy but I wouldn't say a great performance, only scoring 5 points in second half, loads of unforced errors from SN, missing easy dips, handling errors etc. SN were a shadow of the last few years and were still in with a chance, but none of that matters. To the victor and all that. Dunloy did what they had to do 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 07, 2022, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Weird, weird dude
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 07, 2022, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Weird, weird dude

Chill out, I'm taking the piss, I've yet to read anywhere that the Dunloy team won that game with the style they have shown the last 4 years in Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Lol. Sweet Jesus , isn't this what you were slagging me for. Let's get the camogie convention going, bán handling errors lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 08:17:22 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Lol. Sweet Jesus , isn't this what you were slagging me for. Let's get the camogie convention going, bán handling errors lol

No, keep up, I said I'm taking the piss, though you could see that, I hadn't even watched it!!

Now back in your box, did Derry win anything at club level in hurling/camogie  this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 07, 2022, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 08:17:22 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 07, 2022, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Lol. Sweet Jesus , isn't this what you were slagging me for. Let's get the camogie convention going, bán handling errors lol

No, keep up, I said I'm taking the piss, though you could see that, I hadn't even watched it!!

Now back in your box, did Derry win anything at club level in hurling/camogie  this year?

Not this year unfortunately, but we are a humble people .
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 11:10:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 07, 2022, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2022, 07:35:28 PM
Finals are for winning. Delighted for Dunloy to be honest. Same as Loughgiel in the Camogie. Slaughtneil were at the point where they would have been living in their heads so a great achievement to get over the line against them.

Were lucky in that camogie final, S'neil weren't great and missed some scores, handling errors all over the place..

Weird, weird dude

Chill out, I'm taking the piss, I've yet to read anywhere that the Dunloy team won that game with the style they have shown the last 4 years in Antrim

Don't think many teams win finals with real style in December to be fair. A lot of the time pitches at this time of year mean you just have to dig in, battle hard and take the chances that you earn. Guess that's all part of trying to squeeze it all in woth our climate.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2022, 09:22:51 AM
Another thing never mentioned was shorty was missing. There was a score dunloy got at the end where boys on both sides were busting their balls for everything and he got the ball and just used the brain to see space and easy score created. Some operator.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on December 08, 2022, 09:39:41 AM
Quote from: delgany on December 07, 2022, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
Anything of note come out of the county convention?

Was there any motions that got passed or some put on hold?

Hopefully (for the Derry wans) the motion of banning flukey goals was passed  ;D

League restructuring in football is being re considered. Whether this is for 2023 or 2024 is unclear. Ccc /CB made no motions / recommendations as to their preferred options so clubs will re convene in Jan  and probably a decision by Feb.!

U15 All County Leagues to have unlimited subs !

Football and Hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: maxpower on December 08, 2022, 09:42:11 AM
I thought it was an incredible performance by Dunloy

Considering - it's December against a top class team who are seen as one of the fitness and most physically conditioned club teams ever.  Of course we would love to play the game in Casement Park in July but that is not how championships are played

Factor in
- County player Eoin O'Neill leaving the country for a year
- losing Woody, the mainstay of our defence for over a decade
- injury curtailing Decky Smyth involvement
- injury ruling out regular match winner Chrissy McMahon
- captain and legend Paul Shields missing from the starting line up

That's potentially a third of the team missing at the start but the lads that stepped in performed heroically
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 08, 2022, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 13, 2022, 06:09:42 PM
Dunloy will catch Slaughtneil this year. They've been around the block enough times at this stage and know what they need to do differently. They've better stick men than Slaughtneil. Cushendall is the perfect preparation for them.

Those people claiming it wasn't a great performance; IT MOST CERTAINLY WAS. For a team to be able to change their style of play to enable them to beat an outstanding team - that is exactly what a great performance is. They executed their strategy and got the job done.

Dunloy are an incredibly talented hurling team. The best I have seen since 2012. Now they've learned how to beat teams by hurling in a different manner, that is special. Testament to the work, dedication and committment from Greg, his management team and players. They were training 5 nights per week at one stage during the process.

We are on our way to seeing something special.

Few sensible people on here alluding to the fact that you're not going to see the style and panache with which they beat Antrim club teams this season when they're playing Slaughtneil in December. That's what great teams do - mix it up!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
Those 5 are some loss Maxpower. Hopefully Woody and Paul are still good to be around the panel for another few years as Dunloy look to take their talent to the next level. This squad can be anything it wants in the next few years, there's nothing to stop them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2022, 06:46:02 PM
Dunloy are 4/1 in some bookies, I've it as a 50/50 game, maybe I'm missing something?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2022, 07:34:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
Those 5 are some loss Maxpower. Hopefully Woody and Paul are still good to be around the panel for another few years as Dunloy look to take their talent to the next level. This squad can be anything it wants in the next few years, there's nothing to stop them.
Right
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2022, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2022, 06:46:02 PM
Dunloy are 4/1 in some bookies, I've it as a 50/50 game, maybe I'm missing something?
Northern teams always have been disrespected come this stage, and more often than not the bookie isn't far away! I've it down to how dunloy deals with the occasion, St Thomas been around the block, Dunloy hit a goal early and get the tails up they'll give them all they want on a big open pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2022, 07:44:04 PM
But as for world domination. CALM THE FCUK DOWN!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2022, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 08, 2022, 07:44:04 PM
But as for world domination. CALM THE FCUK DOWN!!!

I'm taking the plus 5 that paddy power have, I agree too the bookies don't get it wrong too much
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2022, 08:31:28 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
Those 5 are some loss Maxpower. Hopefully Woody and Paul are still good to be around the panel for another few years as Dunloy look to take their talent to the next level. This squad can be anything it wants in the next few years, there's nothing to stop them.

I'll have whatever you're smoking..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on December 08, 2022, 09:06:27 PM
You not think with a full panel they could win an all ireland or two in the next five years?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2022, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2022, 09:06:27 PM
You not think with a full panel they could win an all ireland or two in the next five years?

No
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2022, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2022, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2022, 09:06:27 PM
You not think with a full panel they could win an all ireland or two in the next five years?

No

You only have a chance if you're in it.. the other semifinal is the bookies final and armchair experts final, as both played last years..

Think Ballyhale are coming to an end if I'm being honest but it's whether or not Dunloy gain enough experiences of playing at this level to get one decent shot at winning it..

Will they keep winning Antrim and Ulster? Maybe Antrim for a while, be interesting to see how S'neil come back next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2022, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

Yeah two evenly matched teams by the look of it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 08, 2022, 11:03:17 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2022, 11:00:02 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

Yeah two evenly matched teams by the look of it
Good to see some of the lower tier teams come through eventually.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 09, 2022, 08:39:19 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 08, 2022, 09:06:27 PM
You not think with a full panel they could win an all ireland or two in the next five years?
Maybe even three
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2022, 09:39:14 AM
Now you're getting carried away lol. In my book any team that cracked Slaughtneil, with a young age profile like Dunloys, must be thinking about mounting a challenge at this level. The 5 players missing would all be in the mix for starting placed under normal circumstances,  so there's panel depth too. Will take a good team to beat them in Ulster for next while and question is can they find that next level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 10:00:06 AM
Quote from: bannside on December 09, 2022, 09:39:14 AM
Now you're getting carried away lol. In my book any team that cracked Slaughtneil, with a young age profile like Dunloys, must be thinking about mounting a challenge at this level. The 5 players missing would all be in the mix for starting placed under normal circumstances,  so there's panel depth too. Will take a good team to beat them in Ulster for next while and question is can they find that next level.

As said before if in 2023 Dunloy are meeting Slaughtneil again in an Ulster championship game, it'll be a 50/50 game for me.

Slaughtneil were poor by their usually high standards, some of that is down to Dunloys workrate, but the basics were poor which they normally aren't
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on December 09, 2022, 12:42:46 PM
No one saying Slaughtneil are a bad team or are finished by any stretch, but Dunloys new generation are stepping up and have all bulked up too which was the missing link a few years ago. Plus there are a few marquee forwards that successful clubs need.

With those 5 available they also gave a panel of 22 plus which is needed at this level.

Plenty to like about Dunloys current situation and scope to improve further. Is anyone saying its unrealistic for them to be targeting an AIC or two?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on December 09, 2022, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

Yeah I am going to head up.

I lost one, maybe 2 Mageean finals while at St Louis back in the late 90s, so it would be good to see a St Louis win!

Just couldn't ever seem to beat St Marys CBS back then.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2022, 12:50:44 PM
Johnny Flynn used to be the man for them at that age. Quite a few good rossa guys too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning

Think that pitch would be hard at the best of times
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 01:28:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning

Get the hose out  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 01:28:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning

Get the hose out  ;)

Need to turn the heating on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 01:35:32 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
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Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning

Get the hose out  ;)

Need to turn the heating on

Get the lights on early too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:37:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM
Anyone for The Dub tomorrow night for the Mageean Cup final? Should be a good game.

That game is in doubt, the pitch was frozen this morning

Think that pitch would be hard at the best of times

nope, i was on it on Wednesday night and it was perfect
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 01:40:53 PM
It's to be -1 at throw in time  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

One of you two not officiating or is it Totes turn?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:41:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

One of you two not officiating or is it Totes turn?

Did line last year, great atmosphere tbh and great setting, be too cold for tyrdub, he'd be under the electric blanket
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:41:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

One of you two not officiating or is it Totes turn?

Did line last year, great atmosphere tbh and great setting, be too cold for tyrdub, he'd be under the electric blanket

Tyrdub likes his tae at half time and a few chocolate hobnobs for soakage.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

Yep. just flash the staff card
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 03:55:36 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:41:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

One of you two not officiating or is it Totes turn?

Did line last year, great atmosphere tbh and great setting, be too cold for tyrdub, he'd be under the electric blanket

Tyrdub likes his tae at half time and a few chocolate hobnobs for soakage.

I have officiated at quite a few Mageean matches this year, reffed this match in the group stages which finished a draw. The semifinal last week between Garrontower and Ballycastle was as physical a game as i've seen in a long time.

and ftr, I'd have the thermal longjohns on me before I'd leave the house on a night like this
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 03:59:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 09, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 09, 2022, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 09, 2022, 02:49:56 PM
Game is going ahead

Good stuff

I think I might catch it on the Ulster Schools YouTube channel due to the bollock freezing weather forecast   ???

there's me saving £6 tonight now

You get in free sure

One of you two not officiating or is it Totes turn?

and no I'm not out tonight, Totes on the line. He, and PT, have done quite a few Mageean games this year so it's quite deserved.

Never actually officiated at any Mageean final for that matter
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 09, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
Narrow win for St Louis. Very little between the teams in tough conditions. Had the feel of a game that was always coming down to one score with the lead changing hands a few times.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 10, 2022, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
Narrow win for St Louis. Very little between the teams in tough conditions. Had the feel of a game that was always coming down to one score with the lead changing hands a few times.

Yeah there was nothing in it, conditions very difficult.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
Pitch looked in good condition for this time of year, no doubt hard. Considering the coldness that's decent scoring too...

Games called off today after pitch inspections I see, counties defo need a huge indoor facility for playing like they have in Connaught
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on December 10, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 09, 2022, 11:59:48 PM
Narrow win for St Louis. Very little between the teams in tough conditions. Had the feel of a game that was always coming down to one score with the lead changing hands a few times.

Oisins will be kicking themselves that they lost this one...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 10, 2022, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
Pitch looked in good condition for this time of year, no doubt hard. Considering the coldness that's decent scoring too...

Games called off today after pitch inspections I see, counties defo need a huge indoor facility for playing like they have in Connaught

St Killians scoring, or lack of, let them down in the second half. 0-11 at HT, 0-17 at FT
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on December 10, 2022, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 10, 2022, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2022, 01:13:07 PM
Pitch looked in good condition for this time of year, no doubt hard. Considering the coldness that's decent scoring too...

Games called off today after pitch inspections I see, counties defo need a huge indoor facility for playing like they have in Connaught

St Killians scoring, or lack of, let them down in the second half. 0-11 at HT, 0-17 at FT

One thing that stood out for me was St Louis' superior aerial ability.  On a very cold night they made a number of clean catches , a few too many of them unchallenged mind you which was surprising on a small pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Gutsy performance by our lady's today, final next Saturday evening at 6:30 in HQ.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 10, 2022, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Gutsy performance by our lady's today, final next Saturday evening at 6:30 in HQ.

That's how I would describe it also. It's true what they say, hurling is not hurling without passion. Them ladies threw their heads in to tackles where you wouldn't throw your cap.

Roisin well marked but it was tough conditions for forwards. The fact that Roisin was being swamped with defenders it freed up the rest. Annie Lynn, Dobin and Lucia McNaughton were outstanding.

It's well within them to finish the job. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2022, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 10, 2022, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: Sleeping giant on December 10, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Gutsy performance by our lady's today, final next Saturday evening at 6:30 in HQ.

That's how I would describe it also. It's true what they say, hurling is not hurling without passion. Them ladies threw their heads in to tackles where you wouldn't throw your cap.

Roisin well marked but it was tough conditions for forwards. The fact that Roisin was being swamped with defenders it freed up the rest. Annie Lynn, Dobin and Lucia McNaughton were outstanding.

It's well within them to finish the job. Best of luck.
Shocking conditions for both teams. I thought the pushing for goals in first half was going to be the undoing of us,could have had 4/5 points only for they seemed really intent on goals.2nd half the middle of the field and backs were absolutely outstanding
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 10, 2022, 08:09:49 PM
One thing I noticed today and in the kilmacud game last week is keepers putting their hand up to catch the ball when it's best to use the boss of the hurl to make sure the ball doesn't slip. Especially when your hands are freezing like that.

Loughgiel on a couple of occasions I noticed just didn't whip the ball on the ground when it was in the mixer. They could possibly have had a couple more goals.

Still fortune seeks the brave which your girls had in abundance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 12, 2022, 12:23:46 PM
Dreadful conditions to expect players to be out in never mind trying to put on a good display.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 12, 2022, 12:32:30 PM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 10, 2022, 08:09:49 PM
One thing I noticed today and in the kilmacud game last week is keepers putting their hand up to catch the ball when it's best to use the boss of the hurl to make sure the ball doesn't slip. Especially when your hands are freezing like that.

Loughgiel on a couple of occasions I noticed just didn't whip the ball on the ground when it was in the mixer. They could possibly have had a couple more goals.

Still fortune seeks the brave which your girls had in abundance.

Whipping the ball in those rucks is a thing of the past nowadays, that transcends through all levels now, all about possession, its a 50/50 whether pulling on the sliotar will get to where you intend it to go

As for the weather, it could turn bad by the weekend if this warm wind comes in, it will turn the frost into snow, apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 17, 2022, 07:12:37 PM
Loughgiel level with Sarsfields at half time despite a bad start. Their full forward line is class but just not getting enough ball to do damage. Perhaps bring one of them out to the half forward line where there's more ball?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 17, 2022, 07:59:24 PM
Decent watch that was. Hard luck to the Loughgiel girls.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 17, 2022, 07:59:51 PM
Hard luck Loughgiel very brave.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 18, 2022, 12:46:05 AM
One of the main differences between Loughgiel and Sarsfields was Sarsfields synical fouling. Sarsfields for their two goals never had anyone holding onto them impeding their runs. While Loughgiel at the other end, any time they burst threw on goal  were having their jerseys held. It was what separated them at the end. You could see Roisin McCormicks frustration.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sportacus on December 18, 2022, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on December 18, 2022, 12:46:05 AM
One of the main differences between Loughgiel and Sarsfields was Sarsfields synical fouling. Sarsfields for their two goals never had anyone holding onto them impeding their runs. While Loughgiel at the other end, any time they burst threw on goal  were having their jerseys held. It was what separated them at the end. You could see Roisin McCormicks frustration.
Number three gave an exhibition of fouling.  Ref copped on too late.  Enjoyable game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
Dunloy definitely not out of their depth here anyway. Could be doing with taking more chances and that umpire giving them the odd 65 would help.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 18, 2022, 02:05:50 PM
Even Stephens .

Neither team really firing, so all to play for.

On the penalty, with the way the keeper holds the hurl I'd always recommend going to the weaker side, it was too close to him anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: themac_23 on December 18, 2022, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 01:53:29 PM
Dunloy definitely not out of their depth here anyway. Could be doing with taking more chances and that umpire giving them the odd 65 would help.

Both teams shooting been brutal. Also, love to see the conversion rates of penalties since they were changed few years ago, pens are suppose to be an advantage to the attacking team. Doesn't seem that way currently, shot from the 21 is def in keepers favour.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:13:40 PM
That st Thomas's full back is a beast of a man. Corner back not small either. Would like to see a bit more low ball in there to see if they can get the run on them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 02:16:37 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:13:40 PM
That st Thomas's full back is a beast of a man. Corner back not small either. Would like to see a bit more low ball in there to see if they can get the run on them.

Aye the Dunloy half forward fair bounced off him
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 18, 2022, 02:17:05 PM
Dunloy playing well I think they have a small breeze this half. Next ten minutes crucial.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:23:39 PM
You would think wrecking two boys in a row would merit a card at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 02:25:17 PM
Thomas very physical, bordering on over aggressive?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 18, 2022, 02:26:02 PM
St Thomas doing a lot of dirty fouling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:30:33 PM
They pull the hurl a lot, leave the arm  in on everything and get away with a lot yet play like they are the victim.

Diagonal ball would win dunloy this. Exploit the space.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 18, 2022, 02:30:40 PM
The saffron goggles on lads?

Crawford unfortunate with probably a broken collar bone or ligament damage all the same, both going in full blooded, came off worse

Cut the wides out and Dunloy can take this

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:34:33 PM
 ;D

Definitely can win this.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2022, 02:36:06 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: smort on December 18, 2022, 02:37:11 PM
Some goal boys

Shouldn't be losing from here. Tomas' have to score as much in 15mins as they have in 45
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:42:40 PM
Far from over.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
That was a red >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:56:15 PM
Yes. Some win.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 18, 2022, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 18, 2022, 02:56:15 PM
Yes. Some win.


Well done, deserved it in the end.

Liatroim lost to Toreen by 4 in Cavan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thebuzz on December 18, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
Excellent. Delighted for Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on December 18, 2022, 03:05:56 PM
Fantastic Dunloy. You can dare to dream now!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 18, 2022, 03:09:22 PM
Great great win dare I say it thought Dunloy had better stick work. Fantastic use of the ball into space and now they have got their win in Croke Park it's not beyond them that was a good team they beat today.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:25:38 AM
The space in the forward line definitely helped Dunloy in the second half.

Once they get a chance to run at the defence they are hard to stop.

Greta win for them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on December 19, 2022, 02:47:01 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on December 19, 2022, 09:25:38 AM
The space in the forward line definitely helped Dunloy in the second half.

Once they get a chance to run at the defence they are hard to stop.

Greta win for them
The one thing Dunloy definitely have in abundance is pace. It should be a great final with the pace energy and ability of the Dunloy forwards against the experience and guile of the Ballyhale back line. Plus throw in TJ, Colin Fennelly plus Adrian Mullen for firepower at the other end it has all the makings of a cracker.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 02:53:24 PM
Only watched the games this morning, had phone off as was out so wanted to watching it 'live'

Poor first half by both teams, handling errors all over the shop, some wides (albeit difficult angles for some) maybe nerves or settling into the surroundings of Croke I don't know, but the second half for both was far better, the 'winning' goal was score of the day in both games..

Second game similar to first game, poor handling, taking the wrong options and while the intensity was 3 levels above Dunloy, Dunloy just have to regroup and look at how they can lift their game for the final..

Couple of bad injuries there yesterday too, which won't help, but Dunloy have unearthed a decent panel..

Physically Ballyhale are massive, so they can't get drawn into a physical battle

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2022, 03:03:20 PM
Hard to see how the dunloy half back - crawford is it? - makes it back for the final. I can't imagine Ballyhale are much bigger / more physical than St Thomas's . A few of those burkes are bests of men (well near all of them).

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:12:31 PM
They certainly were beasts and I admire lads that don't fear or shrink from a challenge but one challenge if the ref had another look was borderline red, but no card, the actual yellow was unlucky and Nigel was probably full hardy..

Noticed this in both games when attackers where shooting they flipped their hurls round so bas was  other way round!

New one on me
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2022, 03:20:43 PM
The collar bone one for me was pretty vicious tbh. There was another border line red on mcgarry too. I didn't think Nigel Elliot was continuing from that one -  he did well to get up and continue from it.

On the subject of reffing and opinion etc I did have to laugh at Cooney's reaction to the penalty. He genuinely seemed to think he had done nothing wrong. It would have been a great tackle in aussie rules tbf to him.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 19, 2022, 03:20:43 PM
The collar bone one for me was pretty vicious tbh. There was another border line red on mcgarry too. I didn't think Nigel Elliot was continuing from that one -  he did well to get up and continue from it.

On the subject of reffing and opinion etc I did have to laugh at Cooney's reaction to the penalty. He genuinely seemed to think he had done nothing wrong. It would have been a great tackle in aussie rules tbf to him.

Aye the lads on commentary were laughing at his attempts of explaining he did nothing wrong!

McGarrys was a red n reflection, he was devastated on the pitch afterward as you can imagine, the subs filled in well and Anton scored a cracker, Paul shiels came on and steady the ship as roving halfback
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on December 19, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:12:31 PM
They certainly were beasts and I admire lads that don't fear or shrink from a challenge but one challenge if the ref had another look was borderline red, but no card, the actual yellow was unlucky and Nigel was probably full hardy..

Noticed this in both games when attackers where shooting they flipped their hurls round so bas was  other way round!

New one on me

Why do that?
Maybe the reason for so many wides in the game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: Upandover on December 19, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:12:31 PM
They certainly were beasts and I admire lads that don't fear or shrink from a challenge but one challenge if the ref had another look was borderline red, but no card, the actual yellow was unlucky and Nigel was probably full hardy..

Noticed this in both games when attackers where shooting they flipped their hurls round so bas was  other way round!

New one on me

Why do that?
Maybe the reason for so many wides in the game.

Not sure, it seems only at goal attempts when they might be getting hooked or it changes what the keepers think would be the natural flight of the ball
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 19, 2022, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:25:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 19, 2022, 03:20:43 PM
The collar bone one for me was pretty vicious tbh. There was another border line red on mcgarry too. I didn't think Nigel Elliot was continuing from that one -  he did well to get up and continue from it.

On the subject of reffing and opinion etc I did have to laugh at Cooney's reaction to the penalty. He genuinely seemed to think he had done nothing wrong. It would have been a great tackle in aussie rules tbf to him.

Aye the lads on commentary were laughing at his attempts of explaining he did nothing wrong!

McGarrys was a red n reflection, he was devastated on the pitch afterward as you can imagine, the subs filled in well and Anton scored a cracker, Paul shiels came on and steady the ship as roving halfback

Shields is a smart hurler. You can see him use the experience and expend a lot less energy than most others to pick out boys. Very useful.

Yeah the number 5(or 7?) looked sore. Real pity for him. There was no need for that tackle at all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on December 20, 2022, 08:14:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: Upandover on December 19, 2022, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2022, 03:12:31 PM
They certainly were beasts and I admire lads that don't fear or shrink from a challenge but one challenge if the ref had another look was borderline red, but no card, the actual yellow was unlucky and Nigel was probably full hardy..

Noticed this in both games when attackers where shooting they flipped their hurls round so bas was  other way round!

New one on me

Why do that?
Maybe the reason for so many wides in the game.

Not sure, it seems only at goal attempts when they might be getting hooked or it changes what the keepers think would be the natural flight of the ball

Do you mean they had the toe pointing to the ground?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 08:49:05 AM
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They certainly were beasts and I admire lads that don't fear or shrink from a challenge but one challenge if the ref had another look was borderline red, but no card, the actual yellow was unlucky and Nigel was probably full hardy..

Noticed this in both games when attackers where shooting they flipped their hurls round so bas was  other way round!

New one on me

Why do that?
Maybe the reason for so many wides in the game.

Not sure, it seems only at goal attempts when they might be getting hooked or it changes what the keepers think would be the natural flight of the ball

Do you mean they had the toe pointing to the ground?

yep
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 20, 2022, 09:10:34 AM
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The collar bone one for me was pretty vicious tbh. There was another border line red on mcgarry too. I didn't think Nigel Elliot was continuing from that one -  he did well to get up and continue from it.

On the subject of reffing and opinion etc I did have to laugh at Cooney's reaction to the penalty. He genuinely seemed to think he had done nothing wrong. It would have been a great tackle in aussie rules tbf to him.

Aye the lads on commentary were laughing at his attempts of explaining he did nothing wrong!

McGarrys was a red n reflection, he was devastated on the pitch afterward as you can imagine, the subs filled in well and Anton scored a cracker, Paul shiels came on and steady the ship as roving halfback

Shields is a smart hurler. You can see him use the experience and expend a lot less energy than most others to pick out boys. Very useful.

Yeah the number 5(or 7?) looked sore. Real pity for him. There was no need for that tackle at all.

The ball was on the ground, the St Thomas' lad had every right to go in for it, his shoulder caught Crawford on the collarbone, unfortunate, but nothing more than that.

The Elliott one was red all day long..

Have to say the first point of the day from Elliott where he killed the ball on the hurl whilst sprinting through was as good a piece of skill as you'll see anywhere and anytime in Ireland.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 20, 2022, 10:12:57 AM
I thought the same on the Elliot point. Nigel Elliot has been some addition for Dunloy. Instrumental on that goal too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Sleeping giant on December 21, 2022, 04:51:07 PM
Great win for Dunloy,fair play to them,Nigel was outstanding!  Real pity for Crawford as he's had a super year, Dunloy forwards will cause just as many headaches to Ballyhales backs as Ballyhales will to Dunloy!  All to play for.......   Unfortunately  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2023, 12:10:57 PM
Good to see some of the younger loughgiel boys get some game time today against Dublin. I think there's a good crop there which should hopefully help us.

Be interesting to see how we get on though obviously missing a lot with Dunloy players.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2023, 02:33:48 PM
Both teams not at full strength but playing well .. N McKenna's score was score of half
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2023, 03:40:43 PM
3-26 to 2-22

Antrim used 25 players today and still without Clarke/McCann/Johnston from injuries and obviously the Dunloy lads still to come back, so all in all not a bad performance

Dublin just always that but dominant on fielding and accuracy on frees but it's the 7th of Jan so move on to the next game, think Galway and Westmeath in the group
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 07, 2023, 03:51:55 PM
Congrats to Glenravel camogie, all ireland champions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on January 08, 2023, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 07, 2023, 03:51:55 PM
Congrats to Glenravel camogie, all ireland champions

Briliant achievment by the Glenravel camogs, well done to all involved at every level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on January 08, 2023, 01:39:50 PM
What's the story with the Dunloy player playing for Antrim yesterday a fortnight before the club final?  Was he just needing game time ?
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Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2023, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: podge on January 08, 2023, 01:39:50 PM
What's the story with the Dunloy player playing for Antrim yesterday a fortnight before the club final?  Was he just needing game time ?

He's been playing for a London club since last year and living over there. He's moved home and I'd say he's transferred back. Probably won't be joining club panel to this final is over.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on January 08, 2023, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 08, 2023, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: podge on January 08, 2023, 01:39:50 PM
What's the story with the Dunloy player playing for Antrim yesterday a fortnight before the club final?  Was he just needing game time ?

He's been playing for a London club since last year and living over there. He's moved home and I'd say he's transferred back. Probably won't be joining club panel to this final is over.

He would be ineligible to play for Dunloy in this Championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 09, 2023, 07:53:35 PM
Anyone at Dunsilly this evening? Antrim lineup available anywhere? Only updates seem to be on Armagh Twitter.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2023, 10:50:22 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 09, 2023, 07:53:35 PM
Anyone at Dunsilly this evening? Antrim lineup available anywhere? Only updates seem to be on Armagh Twitter.

Yeah not long back. A lot of the new panelist's got a start. Young Mc Auley from Ballycastle at corner forward looks tasty, I think he hit 1-4 before going off. Damon mc Mullan just back from injury and looks good, the rest of the young lads did ok but need more matches to get a true account. Some Dunloy Fringe players got some hurling to. Armagh definitely have improved under Karl Mc Keegan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 10, 2023, 09:24:31 AM
Do you mean as in Dunloy players who won't be with the county squad after the all ireland club final, played with Antrim last night to get game time? Interesting if so.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:42 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 10, 2023, 09:24:31 AM
Do you mean as in Dunloy players who won't be with the county squad after the all ireland club final, played with Antrim last night to get game time? Interesting if so.

Why?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on January 10, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.

Think it was Down u20s squad that played against Queens, but stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 10, 2023, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 10, 2023, 09:24:31 AM
Do you mean as in Dunloy players who won't be with the county squad after the all ireland club final, played with Antrim last night to get game time? Interesting if so.

So they got a look at 7 or 8 young players and did an Antrim club a favour ( most of them have hurled for county in the recent past) and your focus is on the later? interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 10, 2023, 11:49:36 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 10, 2023, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 10, 2023, 09:24:31 AM
Do you mean as in Dunloy players who won't be with the county squad after the all ireland club final, played with Antrim last night to get game time? Interesting if so.

So they got a look at 7 or 8 young players and did an Antrim club a favour ( most of them have hurled for county in the recent past) and your focus is on the later? interesting.

100%, why not play the younger fellas that have been called up by Antrim, instead of giving them 10 mins at the end of a game ? It doesent make any sense
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 11:52:42 AM
The younger fellas were played too.
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Post by: podge on January 10, 2023, 11:55:28 AM
Refreshing to see club and county operating in tandem.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 10, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.


It was Down men who scored all the goals.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 10, 2023, 12:04:59 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 10, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.

Think it was Down u20s squad that played against Queens, but stand to be corrected.

No, there were a few out of the U20's as well playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 10, 2023, 12:24:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 11:52:42 AM
The younger fellas were played too.

Four of them got a combined 31 minutes at the end of the game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 12:29:34 PM
There were younger ones on the team too though. I would say looking at it the younger ones who didn't get game time were the ones who played the last game too.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on January 11, 2023, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.


It was Down men who scored all the goals.

Not quite, young McClean is from Ballycastle which is about as far from Down as you can be in Antrim without moving to Rathlin!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 11, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
The ferry company has went bust so you'll get better access from portaferry!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 11, 2023, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on January 11, 2023, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 10, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 09:34:12 AM
There were 3 or 4 fringe Dunloy players  - McTaggart, McKeague, McKinley and McGrath were among them. Not sure if McKinley played but McKeague started and the other two came on I think. There's a saffron gael report. Good to see the county help Dunloy a bit tbh.

Down getting beat by Queens was an interesting result though I think it was a down man scored the winning goal against them.


It was Down men who scored all the goals.

Not quite, young McClean is from Ballycastle which is about as far from Down as you can be in Antrim without moving to Rathlin!

Apologies, my contact was as accurate as the Down manager who said it was Down U20's yet two of the three Down goal scorers are well out of U20, along with quite a few others.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 21, 2023, 11:31:37 PM
Good luck to Dunloy tomorrow. Big task but they have the tools to cause problems. Bring it home.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2023, 03:32:01 PM
This was a nice article
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/01/22/dunloy-eye-all-ireland-glory-after-decades-of-slipping-and-climbing/
Denis Walsh

More than 20 years ago, the Dunloy team that lost four All-Ireland finals were annihilated by Athenry in Parnell Park: the counting stopped at 16 points, mercifully. Looking in from the outside, it seemed like one of those defeats for which there was no cure. By then, they had spent a decade climbing and slipping and climbing again, chasing a summit in the clouds. Then this: down to the bottom, lying in a heap.
It made no difference. What else were they going to do? What better thing was there to do? There was no deadline. They operated on a continuum of beginnings.
"When you're in a team environment, you never think you're gone, if that makes sense," says Gregory O'Kane, manager of Dunloy now and a player back then. "It's nearly like a boxer. You always think, 'Jesus, aye, I can do this – and this'. Then, the next thing, you're lying on the canvas. Teams are like that. You never see it coming. Who really ever sees it coming? We never thought we were gone."
Renewal came naturally. It wasn't a process that needed to be seeded or fertilised. Hurling was part of every day, like the weather: good and bad. "We just saw it as normal. Family is precious and hurling is our life. That's just what it is. You're involved in hurling – you go and play. They were the best days of our lives, shooting for the moon."

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The dimensions of Dunloy have scarcely changed since O'Kane was a boy. There are about 1,200 people in the parish now and enough local employment to provide for every young person that wishes to stay. It is a mostly Catholic village within hailing distance of Ballymena, Ballymoney and Coleraine, big towns and unionist strongholds. A Paisley has been their local MP for more than 50 years, father and son. Within those boundaries, they staked their ground.
"We're 100 per cent a village community. Isolated. We're not in the glens – we're on the edge of the glens. It's a nationalist village in unionist-dominated north Antrim."
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In O'Kane's childhood Dunloy wasn't in the eye of the Troubles. In 1984, three people were killed in a fire fight in the village, two IRA men and a British solider, but that incident was an outlier. For many years, though, the main street formed part of the route for an Orange Order march. Tensions simmered until the summer of 1998 when the lid flew off the pot.

Dunloy players celebrate at the final whistle of All-Ireland Senior Club Championship semi-final against St Thomas at Croke Park. Photograph: Morgan Treacy/Inpho
"Orangemen laid siege to the village for nearly three hours," according to a report in The Irish Times. "About 1,000 of them blocked three roads into the village, say residents. In a statement the Co Antrim Grand Lodge said its members had 'taken up positions' and 'held' the village. During the three-hour blockade, the Orangemen sang loyalist songs and cheered.
"Many of the men in the village stood at their front doors armed with hurleys, ready for action if necessary."
O'Kane's late father, Paddy, was chairman of the residents' association at the time and was heavily involved in brokering a solution. The Belfast Agreement was only a couple of months old; nobody expected instant harmony. It was a little more than a year since Sean Brown had been killed, and no more than six months since Gerry Devlin had met the same fate, both of them prominent members of their local GAA clubs. That winter, the pub in Dunloy where GAA people congregated spent £5,000 on security cameras. Their anxiety reflected the mood of the time.
"In the mid-90s there were still a lot of sectarian killings going on. The GAA was always a target, there's no getting away from it. It was more luck than anything if you weren't affected by it. As kids there were places we couldn't go. Not in the village – you were always safe in the village – but there were places you wouldn't be going in a GAA capacity, put it like that. It wasn't safe. I'm not saying it's totally eradicated now, but it's a lot better than what it was.
"For people like my father it was more a case of getting the kids, the young people, away from strife. Things like that are in the past. It's better for everybody and it's better for the club. Everybody wants to move on in life, and that's everybody – both sections of the community. There's a Presbyterian church in the middle of the village and people from that community go there every Sunday, and there's nobody that bothers anybody. This is what we want.
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"The saddest part still is that my kids can play any sport. If you're from a Protestant background, you're shoehorned into two or three sports. My kids play a bit of soccer and you would meet people from the other tradition – lovely people. You just feel that their children don't get the same opportunity to play Gaelic games. Society at the minute doesn't allow that. That's totally not from our side – but it's just the way it is."
Inspiration
In one sense the GAA club in Dunloy was oblivious to climate change. Their ambition and their resourcefulness didn't need a political context, or a fair wind. They had a firm mind to go places. At the height of the economic boom they made plans for a stunning new complex: two grass pitches, an indoor arena, a 4G pitch, a clubhouse. People from the club went around Ireland, scouting other facilities for inspiration and snags.
The project was costed at about £1.4 million (€1.6 million). Significant grants were available, but ultimately they would be depending on their supporters to foot the bill. Undaunted, they ploughed on. Building costs fell when the recession hit, but they would have done it regardless.
On the pitch, they were imbued with sky-blue thinking. Losing didn't exert any limits. They lost their first All-Ireland semi-final, and won the next. They lost their first All-Ireland final in a replay, and bounced back to the final the following year. In a golden era for club hurling, Dunloy were a menace to all-comers.
"Like, Birr won four All-Irelands. They were an exceptional team. We played Birr three times. Portumna won four, Athenry won three, Sarsfields won two. Between them all they won a ridiculous amount. If you didn't get them in a semi-final, you got them in a final. The level was crazy."
Dunloy's resilience, though, was extraordinary. In a 10-year period from 1995 they contested four All-Ireland finals, the same number as Birr, and more than anybody else. Scan the line-ups and the same names keep cropping up. "There was a network of families," says O'Kane, "so everybody would have had a connection with somebody".
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In total, 28 players appeared for Dunloy in those All-Ireland finals, but only four players started and finished those games: Gregory O'Kane, his uncle Gary, Gregory's childhood friend Alistair Elliott and Frankie McMullan.
Looking back now, the first final against Birr was the one that got away. On a beastly day they led by four points at half-time, having faced the wind and sleet. In the second half, though, they could only muster a point and Birr forced a draw: in the replay, Dunloy failed to score in the first half.
They were the first team to lose back-to-back club hurling finals; and then, cruelly, they were the first team to do it twice. In the last two finals, against Birr in 2003 and Newtownshandrum a year later, they didn't raise a gallop. Ger O'Neill was their manager in those years and he was certain the players had lost the run of themselves after they won the 2003 semi-final. A year later, there was no such mitigation.
O'Kane kept going. He was 39 when he played in his last county final. By the time he finished he had amassed 11 Antrim medals and 10 Ulster medals. "Did I feel fulfilled? Sure, you never are. You always want more. But you look back and say, 'I couldn't have done any more'.
"In the All-Irelands we probably didn't learn from our semi-finals. The final is a completely different game. If there was a lesson learned, that was it. Semi-finals mean f**k-all. This group of players are young. They're their own men. They're playing in a final that is totally irrelevant to anything that happened before. There's no substitute for doing it. You'll never study it unless you live it."
In O'Kane's time as a player Dunloy were not afraid to look outside for help. One year they approached Justin McCarthy from Cork and he staged an all-day clinic in Gormanstown; another year they spent a weekend in Wexford under the spell of Liam Griffin. Mickey Moran, the football coach, spent a season providing one session of physical training every week. O'Neill travelled up from Tipperary to be their manager on the intervention of Dinny Cahill.

O'Kane, though, hasn't gone down that route. When he took over, nine years ago, Dunloy had hit a flat spot. He believed it would take five years to win another Antrim title and they did it in year four. That was 2017. They had only reached base camp.
"If you can create a pathway, where players can go on a journey, like the one we had – to me, it's about that as much as anything."
Tomorrow, they shoot for the moon.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on January 23, 2023, 05:46:29 PM
Great article. And fair play to Dunloy who had a right rattle against a club that is recognised as one of the best of all time. They certainly didn't let themselves down, went out with swords high. A point down with 7 minutes left, no one can suggest they didn't give it their all.

I'd be confident enough most of that panel will be back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 23, 2023, 06:46:23 PM
They'll certainly take plenty away from it and are young enough to go again.

How many more Antrim titles do you think they can win? I do think there's a serious challenge coming from their neighbours in Loughgiel but might still be a couple of years away. They've had some serious minor teams lately. Can only be good for Antrim hurling though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 23, 2023, 07:00:22 PM
I would say a couple before loughgiel start pushing again. Be interesting to see.

I thought like any Antrim team tends to down south they struggled a bit physically. That being said I don't think I have ever seen an Antrim team with so much pace. Hopefully they are back at that level again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2023, 08:01:59 AM
Ballyhale manager on Dunloy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdHXyEAdY5Q&t=788s
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on January 24, 2023, 11:03:45 AM
Loughgiel quietly rebuilding and it appears what they have are a batch of very talented hurlers on their books as evidenced by several of them on the present county panel, plus young Roadstone coming in behind the current crop who is being tipped for big things.

It might be a year or two though before Loughgiel are among the silverware which begs the question who will challenge Dunloy in the interim in the Antrim SHC?

Then again Loughgiel are well capable of upsetting the odds early in their rebuild and Cushendall never too far away either.

However, should Dunloy reclaim Big Ears they will run into Slaughtneil somewhere along the road. With Dunloy having broken the Slaughtneil hoodoo and Slaughtneil out to regain their Ulster title, that would be a match well worth watching, depending on Slaughtneil's progress in the Derry SFC.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on January 28, 2023, 05:51:25 PM
Anyone heard that Gortnamona have withdrawn senior hurling team? Heard it from 5 or 6 people from different clubs around place
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on January 30, 2023, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on January 28, 2023, 05:51:25 PM
Anyone heard that Gortnamona have withdrawn senior hurling team? Heard it from 5 or 6 people from different clubs around place
That would be a shame if it was the case, I am pretty sure they have been in an intermediate final in the last 10 years. they beat Carey in a final a good few years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 30, 2023, 05:07:14 PM
U-20s got some hammering by Dublin at the weekend in a friendly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on January 31, 2023, 10:45:54 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 30, 2023, 05:07:14 PM
U-20s got some hammering by Dublin at the weekend in a friendly

Will the seniors get the same treatment from the cats at the weekend? Hopefully not but I think its fair to say that the Walsh cup was not encouraging. Are any of the Dunloy boys back for the weekend or are they having a break?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I think we will be competitive at home at this time of the year. Come the Leinster championship it may be different.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 31, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I think we will be competitive at home at this time of the year. Come the Leinster championship it may be different.

Yeah I would agree, Corrigan is a big home advantage for us in the earlier part of the year. Leinster championship could be a hastening experience but these are the games we want to be involved in
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2023, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on January 31, 2023, 10:45:54 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 30, 2023, 05:07:14 PM
U-20s got some hammering by Dublin at the weekend in a friendly

Will the seniors get the same treatment from the cats at the weekend? Hopefully not but I think its fair to say that the Walsh cup was not encouraging. Are any of the Dunloy boys back for the weekend or are they having a break?

All the Dunloy squad are back as far as I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 31, 2023, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on January 31, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I think we will be competitive at home at this time of the year. Come the Leinster championship it may be different.

Yep this sounds right, the big hitters look at the league to try some fringe players. We quite rightly throw everything at it to try and stay up. They are in a completely different gear than we are and still grind out wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 01, 2023, 11:22:57 PM
Reality is at underage we are competitive with Kildare, Carlow, Kerry, Westmeath, Down, how can we be competitive with Kilkenny , Dublin etc at senior level .
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Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 03, 2023, 08:14:26 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow. Surely we have a chance, just hope to see a big performance from the team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 08:57:29 AM
That's some spread of clubs on the Kilkenny team, no Ballyhale players thankfully but a very strong team all the same
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 01:24:23 PM
Strong defense. Be interesting to see how McManus does on lawlor as he is some full back.

Hoping for a good performance here. Let's be honest a win would be a shock but it'd be great.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 01:38:11 PM
+8 is just about right... will give that a go
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions


So we did well only because of the conditions that both teams had?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on February 04, 2023, 07:03:42 PM
The whole game just never really took off, there was never a big momentum shift towards us and nothing to engage the big crowd. All a bit too flat. Conditions didn't help for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions


So we did well only because of the conditions that both teams had?

The wind shifted a lot in the second half and probably kept kk score down tbh.

On positive notes.... Paddy Burke is a fantastic hurler. McKenna also excellent after a poor start and James Mc naughton can be great when he gets in full flight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 07:11:57 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions


So we did well only because of the conditions that both teams had?

The wind shifted a lot in the second half and probably kept kk score down tbh.

On positive notes.... Paddy Burke is a fantastic hurler. McKenna also excellent after a poor start and James Mc naughton can be great when he gets in full flight.

It's a small pitch, we played well and the bookies had us bate by 8..

Glad we are playing div 1 than being dumped in div 3
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions


So we did well only because of the conditions that both teams had?

The wind shifted a lot in the second half and probably kept kk score down tbh.

On positive notes.... Paddy Burke is a fantastic hurler. McKenna also excellent after a poor start and James Mc naughton can be great when he gets in full flight.

Yeah we seemed to have the wind advantage in both periods, mind you for a while in the second half twh condtions were almost unplayable for both teams with the wind and rain,  as Brendan said above - never really got going & Kilkenny were just always a bit slicker & totally dominant in the air
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on February 04, 2023, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2023, 04:13:14 PM
Horrendous conditions in second half  :P Did our best but that was a 10+ game in more benign conditions


So we did well only because of the conditions that both teams had?

The wind shifted a lot in the second half and probably kept kk score down tbh.

On positive notes.... Paddy Burke is a fantastic hurler. McKenna also excellent after a poor start and James Mc naughton can be great when he gets in full flight.

Thought McKenna was very poor throughout to be honest and was surprised he stayed on.  Fine player but not today IMO.

It was a game that we never looked like winning but had we nicked a goal with 10 or 15 to go who knows what would have happened. A bit like Dunloy v Ballyhale in that regard.

Too many free catches on our own puck outs, a few easy frees missed, shorts passes to a 50/50 situation (may as well go long if it's 50/50) were the sort of things we needed to cut out to make it really interesting.

Hopefully enough in this game to give the team the confidence to compete.

On a separate note, sad to see hurling going down the route the football did- short passing, people scared to take a shot unless a very high percentage chance of scoring etc.  too much of a premium on athleticism over raw natural hurling ability.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 08:27:17 PM
Short passing is common enough in hurling nowadays, and it's good to know we are disappointed in losing to Kilkenny in the league, not long ago Meath beat us twice in a final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 08:28:18 PM
I wondered was the short passing more the wind. The wind was brutal second half.

Mckenna did a bit of damage on the scoreboard more than general play tbh.

While kk are a step up that's a decent enough team we have. Yes we can improve but it's not bad and the likes of the Dunloy boys are still getting back into it so I expect we will get better too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 04, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
Is there any chance with all the money Antrim gave St Johns they could get a scoreboard that is visible to all areas of the ground ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 11:21:56 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 04, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
Is there any chance with all the money Antrim gave St Johns they could get a scoreboard that is visible to all areas of the ground ?

I'd be more concerned about getting Casement built tbf
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 04, 2023, 11:24:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 11:21:56 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 04, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
Is there any chance with all the money Antrim gave St Johns they could get a scoreboard that is visible to all areas of the ground ?

I'd be more concerned about getting Casement built tbf

Well Corrigan is our county ground for the foreseeable and you can do both tbf

Not sure how getting a scoreboard that everyone can see is stopping the Casement redevelopment
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2023, 11:30:39 PM
I just said I'd be more concerned about getting casement built than seeing a scoreboard at Corrigan.  Where were you placed that you couldn't see it? They used to have one on the clubhouse which was handier
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2023, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

Brolly's ? Jeze getting soft  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2023, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2023, 08:28:18 PM
I wondered was the short passing more the wind. The wind was brutal second half.

Mckenna did a bit of damage on the scoreboard more than general play tbh.

While kk are a step up that's a decent enough team we have. Yes we can improve but it's not bad and the likes of the Dunloy boys are still getting back into it so I expect we will get better too.

Probably look at this one as a case of one that got away.

Sounds a bit mad to say it but KK were definitely not up to their previous levels but then again neither were Antrim.

Too many spilled balls or missed touch and balls needlessly given away. Intensity wise we could never get it raised to a level to get some momentum into the game and that lead to us just being picked off.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2023, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle


Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2.

But in all seriousness we should be making them travel as far as possible, making it as uncomfortable as possible and as difficult as we possibly can. We don't get any special favours when we head down the road from any of them. Slightly annoying seeing this 'fan boying' over them when we are trying to compete, like they are doing us some favour coming up the road to play in the first place.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle

or Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2023, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle


Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2.

But in all seriousness we should be making them travel as far as possible, making it as uncomfortable as possible and as difficult as we possibly can. We don't get any special favours when we head down the road from any of them. Slightly annoying seeing this 'fan boying' over them when we are trying to compete, like they are doing us some favour coming up the road to play in the first place.

From reading that now deleted tweet from Meath at the weekend, Down didn't seem to be doing them any favours or going out of their way to make them comfortable.

Good on them!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 06, 2023, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 06, 2023, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 06, 2023, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle


Tongue firmly in cheek there MR2.

But in all seriousness we should be making them travel as far as possible, making it as uncomfortable as possible and as difficult as we possibly can. We don't get any special favours when we head down the road from any of them. Slightly annoying seeing this 'fan boying' over them when we are trying to compete, like they are doing us some favour coming up the road to play in the first place.

From reading that now deleted tweet from Meath at the weekend, Down didn't seem to be doing them any favours or going out of their way to make them confortable.

Good on them!!

And we weren't even playing Meath...  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 06:49:53 PM
If there was a prize for moaning we'd be winning it every year!! Olympic standard

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2023, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2023, 02:54:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 06, 2023, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 05, 2023, 10:50:24 PM
Just aslong as you don't out your umbrella up in Corrigan or upset anybody by standing at the fence.

Laughable, absolutely laughable set up.

I was talking to a Kilkenny fella at the game briefly & he was less than complimentary about Corrigan

We should be using the likes of Ballycastle as well or Cushendall's for the games like this.. Great scoreboard in Ballycastle

That would suit me perfectly. Disgrace they didn't ask my opinion 😉
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on February 08, 2023, 03:35:04 PM
Down to Dublin on Sunday, hopefully a better day for hurling and hopefully we create a goal chance or two. We never made a mark on Kilkennys full back line on Saturday but in fairness Lawlor and Padraig Walsh in front of him were excellent.
Dublin are a grade above us and I will be pleasantly surprised if we come back up the road with a point. I think we were a bit lucky on Saturday, the cats left at least two goal chances behind them in the first half and while our second half comeback was encouraging to a degree we still struggled really badly on our own puck outs both short and long all day. We really need to get our primary possession sorted or we are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 04:51:17 PM
I think it's a bit harsh to say Laois and Westmeath's standards are in the gutter...

They get so far each of them and struggle with commitment once they get there. It's not dissimilar to what happens us.

Yeah you wonder who is next after Gleeson but I think, McManus aside, our team has a good age demographic so would be hopeful we get some players through and can kind of maintain division 1 anyway. It might be tough staying in Leinster every year mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on February 09, 2023, 06:46:50 AM
Is there anywhere you can get to see completed Transfers for from and to Antrim clubs? Just looking to see the movers and shakers!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on February 09, 2023, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on February 09, 2023, 06:46:50 AM
Is there anywhere you can get to see completed Transfers for from and to Antrim clubs? Just looking to see the movers and shakers!!
What did you hear! Spread the gossip :)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tyrdub on February 09, 2023, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on February 09, 2023, 06:46:50 AM
Is there anywhere you can get to see completed Transfers for from and to Antrim clubs? Just looking to see the movers and shakers!!


https://crokepark-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/r/personal/ruairi_harvey_gaa_ie/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?guestaccesstoken=Gc2myfwceMcTJO0Sm78dGMt4Up6MH9VlzlUxxsMV%2Fgk%3D&docid=04bc452cba06b4bfea0d1ed80a2b5fac6&action=default
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 10, 2023, 03:07:53 PM
Antrim game on TG4 on Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on February 10, 2023, 06:14:53 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on February 09, 2023, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: Old Time Hurler on February 09, 2023, 06:46:50 AM
Is there anywhere you can get to see completed Transfers for from and to Antrim clubs? Just looking to see the movers and shakers!!
What did you hear! Spread the gossip :)
Your club sec will have a list of internal transfers some NA clubs picking up 6 to 8 transfers in
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on February 10, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Some movement from the 7 towers towards the Bellaghy Road I hear.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 10, 2023, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 10, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Some movement from the 7 towers towards the Bellaghy Road I hear.

Everyone here is so cryptic!! 😄
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2023, 09:29:44 PM
Few changes for Dublin with duffin and Elliot on from Dunloy and a bit of rejigging in the forwards. Dublin always seem to have our number but you never know. Strong team out I think. Good to see Nigel Elliot in the squad and I think mcmanus better in half forwards than full forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 10, 2023, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: 1884 on February 10, 2023, 09:17:38 PM
Presume it's young McGarry to Dunloy. Heard that rumour and think it's disgraceful.

Jesus that was an obvious one!

Was thinking Bellaghy club not Road!

I was talking to that young fella only recently in at St Louis and he was saying that while Ballymena weren't the strongest, they still held their own in Div 1 at his age group and they hoped to build.

Can't blame him as a person though as the lure to make that step must be tempting, as no harm to Ballymena, they'll never be up at that level.

Although from a gaa view point, I agree, it doesn't sit right.

There's been better players than he will ever be stayed loyal to their club.

Cloot for example (I know he played for Loughguile too but you couldnt argue with the reason)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2023, 09:51:57 PM
Antrim at home would struggle with Dublin, physically they have dominated us, and they played well last week in Waterford albeit Waterford lost two players late on but that's a result they wouldn't have factored in at start of season..

The handicap is +6 which is tricky,  if I was betting I'm looking at a 8 point loss unfortunately

Hopefully proven wrong though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 10, 2023, 10:38:07 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 10, 2023, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: 1884 on February 10, 2023, 09:17:38 PM
Presume it's young McGarry to Dunloy. Heard that rumour and think it's disgraceful.

Jesus that was an obvious one!

Was thinking Bellaghy club not Road!

I was talking to that young fella only recently in at St Louis and he was saying that while Ballymena weren't the strongest, they still held their own in Div 1 at his age group and they hoped to build.

Can't blame him as a person though as the lure to make that step must be tempting, as no harm to Ballymena, they'll never be up at that level.

Although from a gaa view point, I agree, it doesn't sit right.

There's been better players than he will ever be stayed loyal to their club.

Cloot for example (I know he played for Loughguile too but you couldnt argue with the reason)

Is he the brother of Ryan McGarry & didn't he also start off with Ballymena ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 11, 2023, 12:35:08 AM
I'd be surprised if Ballymena even could field back when Ryan was part of their setup.

As I say, it's understandable, but how are they ever going to improve if every good players leaves.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on February 13, 2023, 11:53:34 AM
Yesterday started poorly but improved a lot in the second half. Glad to see us score a couple of goals and produce at least 3 other good chances. Paddy Burke and McGarry at full back looked good again but we struggled a bit in the half back line and midfield I thought especially with their runners. We also struggled on our own puck outs which is a concern because that's two weeks running. I don't know what the figures are but we look like we are only winning 30-35% of our own puck outs.
Still much brighter again in the second half so our spirit is good and so is our fitness. When we were 8 or 9 points down it would have been easy to roll over and take a pummeling so fair play to the players for digging in.
If we can score 2 or 3 goals against Laois in Corrigan I think we will win, heres hoping.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2023, 01:36:51 PM
Think this is a case of one that got away.

Anybody count how many shots dropped short or rolled wide?

Still lacking around the middle third IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 13, 2023, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2023, 01:36:51 PM
Think this is a case of one that got away.

Anybody count how many shots dropped short or rolled wide?

Still lacking around the middle third IMO.

5 dropped short and 15 wide's according to stats

Middle third big problem, couldn't win the rucks
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2023, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 13, 2023, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2023, 01:36:51 PM
Think this is a case of one that got away.

Anybody count how many shots dropped short or rolled wide?

Still lacking around the middle third IMO.

5 dropped short and 15 wide's according to stats

Middle third big problem, couldn't win the rucks

Said on the other thread, we are not as big as Dublin, physically trying to win the ball in the rucks is difficult, even our biggest men are just on a par with theirs and they can match us in a lot of other departments..

I'm glad we managed to stay with them and dig in, mentality wise we have improved and not given up as easily has us lesser teams have done in the past, when letting the big teams tag on 8 or 9 points without reply.

Plenty of areas to improve on too, which is a positive believe it or not, the reality is we have to beat Laois, thats not a given either. maintaining our status in Div 1 and McCarthy cup is prioity, we get nothing out of winning the McDonagh cup..

Sometimes those dropped balls are from not looking up. tiredness. rushed clearances and bad positioning, keeping shape and not getting dragged out of position is important, as a corner back I loved wandering out field generally taking my man with me, at County level they have to stick to the plan.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 13, 2023, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2023, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 13, 2023, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 13, 2023, 01:36:51 PM
Think this is a case of one that got away.

Anybody count how many shots dropped short or rolled wide?

Still lacking around the middle third IMO.

5 dropped short and 15 wide's according to stats

Middle third big problem, couldn't win the rucks

Said on the other thread, we are not as big as Dublin, physically trying to win the ball in the rucks is difficult, even our biggest men are just on a par with theirs and they can match us in a lot of other departments..

I'm glad we managed to stay with them and dig in, mentality wise we have improved and not given up as easily has us lesser teams have done in the past, when letting the big teams tag on 8 or 9 points without reply.

Plenty of areas to improve on too, which is a positive believe it or not, the reality is we have to beat Laois, thats not a given either. maintaining our status in Div 1 and McCarthy cup is prioity, we get nothing out of winning the McDonagh cup..

Sometimes those dropped balls are from not looking up. tiredness. rushed clearances and bad positioning, keeping shape and not getting dragged out of position is important, as a corner back I loved wandering out field generally taking my man with me, at County level they have to stick to the plan.

Yeah, pretty noticeable the difference in S&C between the two teams, but Antrim's stickwork for the most part was on a par, with some nice passages of play in the second half.

One other thing is that the high ball in was gobbled up by Dublin so more care needs to go into that ball in. Easier said than done when you need  to be working the ball out in order to get the zippier ball in there rather than the long, high balls but losing out in the physicality stakes in the middle third.

The only place to learn this is in Div1 though so keep at it.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2023, 03:58:18 PM
The size of boys playing inter county hurling at those top levels is ridiculous - they're near like rugby player builds now. It's noticeable the last few years the size difference in antrim players too - Burke, Cunning, Molloy etc are significantly bigger.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 13, 2023, 03:58:18 PM
The size of boys playing inter county hurling at those top levels is ridiculous - they're near like rugby player builds now. It's noticeable the last few years the size difference in antrim players too - Burke, Cunning, Molloy etc are significantly bigger.

Yes but still on the 'small' size in comparison to lads in other counties
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2023, 05:09:11 PM
Yeah. In reality we're the same in the football. Takes some commitment to get to those levels. (and over the last few years the hurlers have been doing that and have continuity tbf to them. Footballers too disjointed with different regimes / managers)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 11, 2023, 12:35:08 AM
I'd be surprised if Ballymena even could field back when Ryan was part of their setup.

As I say, it's understandable, but how are they ever going to improve if every good players leaves.

Ryan played for All Saints seniors before his move. Won a junior B and competed in the Junior

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/09/02/odds-on-favourites-advance-but-made-to-fight-all-the-way/
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2023, 10:03:52 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 11, 2023, 12:35:08 AM
I'd be surprised if Ballymena even could field back when Ryan was part of their setup.

As I say, it's understandable, but how are they ever going to improve if every good players leaves.

Ryan played for All Saints seniors before his move. Won a junior B and competed in the Junior

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/09/02/odds-on-favourites-advance-but-made-to-fight-all-the-way/

Lads you are discussing a juvenile member on a public forum here.

I would knock it on the head, this is not the place to be discussing it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 14, 2023, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 11, 2023, 12:35:08 AM
I'd be surprised if Ballymena even could field back when Ryan was part of their setup.

As I say, it's understandable, but how are they ever going to improve if every good players leaves.

Ryan played for All Saints seniors before his move. Won a junior B and competed in the Junior

https://thesaffrongael.com/2018/09/02/odds-on-favourites-advance-but-made-to-fight-all-the-way/

I was referring to underage teams, didn't think he was old enough to have played senior before the move.

But I take on board what NAG1 says, maybe best to drop discussing the subject as the original player that was talked about is still a juvenile.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 15, 2023, 10:39:11 PM
Poor minor championship match tonight, does nothing for Antrim or Derry hurling. The u20 game on the other hand went to the wire.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 16, 2023, 09:57:27 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on February 15, 2023, 10:39:11 PM
Poor minor championship match tonight, does nothing for Antrim or Derry hurling. The u20 game on the other hand went to the wire.

And we had a few of the u17s playing up to u20 as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 10:48:23 AM
it wasn't as bad as the donegal u17 game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 16, 2023, 11:43:38 AM
Very true ITG
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2023, 12:03:01 PM
Should an u16 team be playing these games? And the u17 squad be doing the travelling to play stronger opposition
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on February 16, 2023, 12:45:42 PM
It's the only way into Leinster championship I think, does away with the usual play off with Down.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 08:16:22 PM
Is that a randalstown man playing for Tyrone?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 17, 2023, 03:37:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 08:16:22 PM
Is that a randalstown man playing for Tyrone?

Yeah Sean Duffin is playing for them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 24, 2023, 02:04:40 PM
What do we reckon this weekend? Suppose it depends how hard Waterford go at it. Maybe Gleeson may give a few other lads a run out with an eye on the pivotal Laois game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 24, 2023, 02:57:02 PM
Waterford at least one red card  ;D

I honestly think we've a better chance against them than Dublin. Hoping for a close game but like you say Laois the big test.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on February 27, 2023, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 24, 2023, 02:57:02 PM
Waterford at least one red card  ;D

I honestly think we've a better chance against them than Dublin. Hoping for a close game but like you say Laois the big test.

Unfortunately we got the red card. Still seemed a reasonable effort with 14 men, leading mid way through the second half then ran out of legs. From reading the report Austin Gleeson off the bench did a lot of damage in the home straight unsurprisingly. Guy beat us single handedly at Corrigan last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 27, 2023, 12:00:12 PM
That has been the story of every waterford game this year. Yeah we will never beat a team like that with 14. I am not exactly sure what happened with the sending off other than it was "off the ball".
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 27, 2023, 12:03:43 PM
Yeah an impossible task with 14 & into the wind. It's Laois or bust but I would be reasonably confident we will beat Laois, especially with home advantage. I think we do need to be getting a bit more out of some of the forwards though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on February 28, 2023, 10:28:00 AM
Loughbeg Gaels & Belfast Saints?

I'm guessing it's a Moneyglass hurling team but who are the Belfast saints?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 28, 2023, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on February 28, 2023, 10:28:00 AM
Loughbeg Gaels & Belfast Saints?

I'm guessing it's a Moneyglass hurling team but who are the Belfast saints?

https://twitter.com/Loughbegharps (https://twitter.com/Loughbegharps)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 01, 2023, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2023, 12:03:43 PM
Yeah an impossible task with 14 & into the wind. It's Laois or bust but I would be reasonably confident we will beat Laois, especially with home advantage. I think we do need to be getting a bit more out of some of the forwards though

No Eoghan Campbell for that match, we went into the Laois match last year confident of beating them and they were lying in wait for us unfortunately. We have undoubtedly shown better form than them in the league so far but form doesn't win matches scores do. Four of our six starting forwards failed to score at the weekend, not good. Hopefully we can get over the line but nothing is a given.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 10:03:00 AM
Laois have had our number the last few years. We'll do well to win it and Campbell a massive blow assuming he is suspended. Hopefully home advantage will swing it our way but definitely a very tough game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2023, 12:11:50 PM
Liam Sheedy singing your praises on the Sunday game, at least you are showing a competitiveness in all the games to date but that won't count for shít if Laois rock up and take the points this weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.

Tipp is the last game, on 19th March

Think Leinster will give us a better idea of where we are as teams will have their championship team out and going full pelt
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2023, 02:24:56 PM
We don't beat Laois then we are looking a new manager next season, we may be anyways as all good things come to an end and commitment like that is hard to get.

He has during his period as Manager done very well and taken a few scalps and maintained this league status..

Personally we got caught out last year by Laois and I don't expect us to lose this one, we are a better team that that game showed, but we can't take the foot off the gas if we get on top, and that has been a problem against the big teams, we used to be a 55 minute team, think we are a 62 minute team now, we have to find that energy or level to last 74 minutes

I can't see any other reason why we can hold/compete for that amount of minutes to only lose by 6 unanswered points in the final few minutes other than not being as physically fit or our panel isn't as strong as the others

This is no disrespect to the managers or coaches, the players need to be at a level before they reach senior and then push on from that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:38:06 PM
All fair points MR2 and no disrespect to our wider panel but I think we can be a bit lacking coming off the bench at the very top level, and that's to be expected against the top teams.

I suppose the aim is to try and develop a very strong panel of 20-22 players, where we can put 4/5 subs on and not see any drop in performance
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 01, 2023, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:38:06 PM
All fair points MR2 and no disrespect to our wider panel but I think we can be a bit lacking coming off the bench at the very top level, and that's to be expected against the top teams.

I suppose the aim is to try and develop a very strong panel of 20-22 players, where we can put 4/5 subs on and not see any drop in performance

This is always the problem with Antrim/Down?Kildare/westmeath etc. About 10 players who are easily division 1 standard, another four or five who are a grade below and four or five off the bench who are that quarter of a second slower to react. Small margins lead to large consequences at the very top level but I would rather be battling and competing in division 1 than winning four out of five in division 2.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.

Tipp is the last game, on 19th March

Think Leinster will give us a better idea of where we are as teams will have their championship team out and going full pelt

Ah so it is.

Absolutely no way should Gleeson be going anywhere other than voluntarily. I think we are a level below these teams a lot of times and bust ourselves to keep up with them so run out of steam. The level of physicality is something that takes significant time to adapt to. It's not happening due to bad fitness coaches - that kind of thing takes a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.

Tipp is the last game, on 19th March

Think Leinster will give us a better idea of where we are as teams will have their championship team out and going full pelt

Ah so it is.

Absolutely no way should Gleeson be going anywhere other than voluntarily. I think we are a level below these teams a lot of times and bust ourselves to keep up with them so run out of steam. The level of physicality is something that takes significant time to adapt to. It's not happening due to bad fitness coaches - that kind of thing takes a few years.

Yep but while we are catching up the other teams are moving on, it's a difficult one as the big teams aren't standing still
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2023, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.

Tipp is the last game, on 19th March

Think Leinster will give us a better idea of where we are as teams will have their championship team out and going full pelt

Ah so it is.

Absolutely no way should Gleeson be going anywhere other than voluntarily. I think we are a level below these teams a lot of times and bust ourselves to keep up with them so run out of steam. The level of physicality is something that takes significant time to adapt to. It's not happening due to bad fitness coaches - that kind of thing takes a few years.

Yep but while we are catching up the other teams are moving on, it's a difficult one as the big teams aren't standing still

The resources available to some of those other teams would scare you, a lot of IC set ups are near on professional at this stage.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 04:06:34 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 03:41:01 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 01, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 01, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Next weekend. Wee easy game against Tipp first.

Tipp is the last game, on 19th March

Think Leinster will give us a better idea of where we are as teams will have their championship team out and going full pelt

Ah so it is.

Absolutely no way should Gleeson be going anywhere other than voluntarily. I think we are a level below these teams a lot of times and bust ourselves to keep up with them so run out of steam. The level of physicality is something that takes significant time to adapt to. It's not happening due to bad fitness coaches - that kind of thing takes a few years.

Yep but while we are catching up the other teams are moving on, it's a difficult one as the big teams aren't standing still

Yeah it's a massive massive task and you look at who's been able to get in with the bigger teams and it's Dublin where money has been thrown at them.

Laois, Westmeath, us and maybe Carlow suffer the same kind of fate regularly - bust our balls getting up there and have to bust our balls staying there but it's a small player pool and a massive effort. How that cycle ever gets broken I don't know but at the minute I would say we have a very good crop and will probably drop off in a few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 06, 2023, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling

Sad, they have done savage work over the last few years to keep going.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on March 06, 2023, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2023, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling


What happened, numbers
Sad, they have done savage work over the last few years to keep going.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 06, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling

Hadn't heard anything official but see on the Official Antrim site the points have been allocated to the other clubs for all their matches.

They still have the Camogie team and they were fielding at juvenile blitzes last season albeit with low numbers. I grew up in Larne and it obviously isn't a GAA stronghold. There will be a small band of volunteers very disappointed but it's obviously not an easy place to run a club. Still surprising to hear this though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2023, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 06, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling

Hadn't heard anything official but see on the Official Antrim site the points have been allocated to the other clubs for all their matches.

They still have the Camogie team and they were fielding at juvenile blitzes last season albeit with low numbers. I grew up in Larne and it obviously isn't a GAA stronghold. There will be a small band of volunteers very disappointed but it's obviously not an easy place to run a club. Still surprising to hear this though.

Neither is Ballymena, Ahoghill or Antrim town but they have no shortage of willing volunteers to drive on and promote their clubs.

How come you didn't volunteer to assist the hurling club when living in Larne????
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2023, 09:13:48 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 06, 2023, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling

Sad, they have done savage work over the last few years to keep going.

Unfortunately, that really isn't the case.

Underage isn't great and hurling isn't really promoted by the primary schools, which is strange given the Rossa connections of one of the head teachers in one of the primary schools although Woody has been in coaching as part of the Gaelfast initiative.

As most of the primary school children will be continuing their second level education at St Killians, these children are at an immediate disadvantage when it comes to school sports as there is a serious promotion of hurling and camogie in St Killians.

One or two other issues may exist which contribute to the club's demise plus a few lads have not committed and given up, which left a senior panel of 14-15, not including lads with a few longer term injuries, coupled with lads who couldn't commit due to other reasons.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 07, 2023, 11:23:34 AM
no underage structure is a massive problem (for a lot of clubs)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 07, 2023, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 07, 2023, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 06, 2023, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 06, 2023, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
As far as i know an amalgamation between st teresas and st agnes?

Another hurling team gone. Latharna Og.

More to follow id imagine. Some clubs are really struggling

Hadn't heard anything official but see on the Official Antrim site the points have been allocated to the other clubs for all their matches.

They still have the Camogie team and they were fielding at juvenile blitzes last season albeit with low numbers. I grew up in Larne and it obviously isn't a GAA stronghold. There will be a small band of volunteers very disappointed but it's obviously not an easy place to run a club. Still surprising to hear this though.

Neither is Ballymena, Ahoghill or Antrim town but they have no shortage of willing volunteers to drive on and promote their clubs.

How come you didn't volunteer to assist the hurling club when living in Larne????

For most of my time they weren't active and I was also spending most of my time out of Larne where my girlfriend (now wife) lived or in Belfast with work. 

I hope they keep pushing at juvenile level but I know from talking to friends last year it's difficult too as Larne Youth are hoovering up most of the youngsters in the area. Most of the boys I know would be past the age of playing so not sure what's coming up behind them. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 07, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
Where are the seniors from the club going?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 07, 2023, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: Upandover on March 07, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
Where are the seniors from the club going?

hopefully not st brigids belfast or this thread will spiral into chaos like the football
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 07, 2023, 02:44:09 PM
I think a few will head to belfast clubs tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 07, 2023, 03:16:11 PM
Geographically the closest would be Glenarm then probably Naomh Eanna. I know at least one went to Davitts a previous time when there was no team so there's maybe a connection there. Probably depends on individual circumstances though.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 07, 2023, 03:20:12 PM
Where did latharna og finish past year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 10, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
Big, big match this weekend. We need to beat Laois because we won't beat Tipperary. No Eoghan Campbell I presume which is a blow. Laois have had our number lately so we need a big crowd in Corrigan and a big performance. 50/50 game in my opinion but its there for the winning if we can win our own puck outs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 10, 2023, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 10, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
Big, big match this weekend. We need to beat Laois because we won't beat Tipperary. No Eoghan Campbell I presume which is a blow. Laois have had our number lately so we need a big crowd in Corrigan and a big performance. 50/50 game in my opinion but its there for the winning if we can win our own puck outs.

Well all is not lost if we are beaten as probably be Westmeath in relegation playoff but we should be beating Laois, especially at home
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
Who will replace Campbell at CHB I wonder? McManus and Elliot doubtful.

BIg big game as you say. They had our number last year by a bit tbh - hoping for better this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 10, 2023, 03:31:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 10, 2023, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on March 10, 2023, 08:46:03 AM
Big, big match this weekend. We need to beat Laois because we won't beat Tipperary. No Eoghan Campbell I presume which is a blow. Laois have had our number lately so we need a big crowd in Corrigan and a big performance. 50/50 game in my opinion but its there for the winning if we can win our own puck outs.

Well all is not lost if we are beaten as probably be Westmeath in relegation playoff but we should be beating Laois, especially at home
Westmeath are not a gimme either, ran Cork to 6 points in Pairc Ui Caoimh last time out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 10, 2023, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2023, 10:53:38 AM
Who will replace Campbell at CHB I wonder? McManus and Elliot doubtful.

BIg big game as you say. They had our number last year by a bit tbh - hoping for better this year.

Gerard Walsh in at CHB according to Antrim twitter, Ryan Elliot back in goals and Nigel Elliot starting. McManus named at full forward.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2023, 03:44:07 PM
Not convinced by our half back line but hope I am wrong. Still a strong enough lineup.

On another note I see tickets are general admission now as opposed to terrace / stand (with no stand available at the time).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 10, 2023, 05:09:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 10, 2023, 03:44:07 PM
Not convinced by our half back line but hope I am wrong. Still a strong enough lineup.

On another note I see tickets are general admission now as opposed to terrace / stand (with no stand available at the time).

Maybe stand sold out already?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on March 10, 2023, 06:56:38 PM
3 Dunloy hurlers on the club team of 2022


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/07/ballyhale-shamrocks-dominate-selection-for-club-hurling-team-of-the-year/
AIB GAA CLUB HURLING TEAM OF THE YEAR

Stephen O'Keeffe (Ballygunner)

Killian Corcoran (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Joey Holden (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Ryan McGarry (Dunloy)

Kevin Molloy (Dunloy)


Richie Reid (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Darragh Corcoran (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Conor Sheahan (Ballygunner)

Adrian Mullen (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Eoin Cody (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

TJ Reid (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Pauric Mahony (Ballygunner)

Conal Cunning (Dunloy)

Colin Fennelly (Ballyhale Shamrocks)

Patrick Fitzgerald (Ballygunner)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 10, 2023, 08:29:05 PM
How'd Kealan Molloy not make that team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: theskull1 on March 10, 2023, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2023, 08:29:05 PM
How'd Kealan Molloy not make that team?

Dyslexia?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 11, 2023, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 10, 2023, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on March 10, 2023, 08:29:05 PM
How'd Kealan Molloy not make that team?

Dyslexia?  ;D
M🤣🤣
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:27:02 PM
Pitch inspection at 9:30am tomorrow
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 11, 2023, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:27:02 PM
Pitch inspection at 9:30am tomorrow

For Corrigan?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 11, 2023, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:27:02 PM
Pitch inspection at 9:30am tomorrow

For Corrigan?

Yeah
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 11, 2023, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 11, 2023, 09:48:17 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 11, 2023, 09:27:02 PM
Pitch inspection at 9:30am tomorrow

For Corrigan?

Yeah

If postponed, is there another free week in the calendar?

I'd presume so.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 11, 2023, 11:15:40 PM
Dunsilly was  fine today.

Brave bit of snow fell and melted in belfast and was followed by plenty of rain, pitch will cut up pretty bad if it goes ahead, get the rugby studs in the boots no mouldies :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2023, 01:47:08 PM
Pitch is fine. It's all about the footwear..

handling is atrocious due in part to the weather but Antrim seem very nervous, hopefully it's a five point breeze this second half as we really need to get momentum going and string over a lock of points.

Some heads down too when walking in at HT

Refocus and back at it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 12, 2023, 03:06:05 PM
Big win, secures div 1 status.

First 25 mins i feared the worst but laois seemed to die after that, brutal conditions.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2023, 03:31:33 PM
Much better team second half. Laois were really allowed to do what they wanted first half and could make space far too easily - we were lucky to go in only two points down. The second half was much better. Michael Bradley was fantastic and McManus in ff caused them some problems. Great win and could have been more.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 12, 2023, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 12, 2023, 03:31:33 PM
Much better team second half. Laois were really allowed to do what they wanted first half and could make space far too easily - we were lucky to go in only two points down. The second half was much better. Michael Bradley was fantastic and McManus in ff caused them some problems. Great win and could have been more.

Goals kept Antrim in it in the first half. Got them at good times especially Mc Manus' goal.

Antrim can welcome Tipp next game under no pressure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on March 12, 2023, 04:48:13 PM
Only made it to the second half, some great Antrim scores and resolute defending. We were definitely the better team, great to see
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2023, 08:51:56 AM
All in all decent performance yesterday, Laois have been a team we have struggled with so was good to put them away. TBH I think Laois have gone backwards slightly but no doubt we are a better team.

Michael Bradley and Nigel Elliott were top performers two massive shifts put in. Left side of the defence needs a bit of work and couple of other areas/ personnel need tweaking but its a real positive to do this in Div 1 next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2023, 08:51:56 AM
All in all decent performance yesterday, Laois have been a team we have struggled with so was good to put them away. TBH I think Laois have gone backwards slightly but no doubt we are a better team.

Michael Bradley and Nigel Elliott were top performers two massive shifts put in. Left side of the defence needs a bit of work and couple of other areas/ personnel need tweaking but its a real positive to do this in Div 1 next year.

Nigel is proving (always had it though) to be the link up man, the provider and winner of balls in that forward line, great to see someone that has his head up all the time looking to unlock the defence

Considering the weather and pitch conditions I'll hold judgement on some of those tweaks NAG1 but know where you are coming from
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2023, 11:46:13 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2023, 08:51:56 AM
All in all decent performance yesterday, Laois have been a team we have struggled with so was good to put them away. TBH I think Laois have gone backwards slightly but no doubt we are a better team.

Michael Bradley and Nigel Elliott were top performers two massive shifts put in. Left side of the defence needs a bit of work and couple of other areas/ personnel need tweaking but its a real positive to do this in Div 1 next year.

I think we're missing a few so with Campbell back we'd be a bit stronger. Brilliant to not need to worry in the last game and like Gleeson says he can now prepare for championship. The leinster championship is going to be very tough but it's where you want to be at. Hard to know what realistic expectations are.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
While the end result was good i still cant get too excited about the uncoming champinship. McManus, Bradley, Coby were all brilliant yesterday. Defensivly we put our bodies on the line but overall we have a lot of improving to do. The goal was criminal! Campbell, Burke and Bradley in defense look solid. Have we another 3 defenders up to championship level? On a positive the link play Coby brings is fantastic. If we could get McNaughton driving forward from midfield too along with Keelan. Elliott as a link man and McManus a target man in FF we look strong enough. But i think we lack around 4 or 5 players to go to the next level. We need 50% more out of some players. S Elliott for example, fantastic hurler btw. Id like to see Boyle get a start v Tipp.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 13, 2023, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
While the end result was good i still cant get too excited about the uncoming champinship. McManus, Bradley, Coby were all brilliant yesterday. Defensivly we put our bodies on the line but overall we have a lot of improving to do. The goal was criminal! Campbell, Burke and Bradley in defense look solid. Have we another 3 defenders up to championship level? On a positive the link play Coby brings is fantastic. If we could get McNaughton driving forward from midfield too along with Keelan. Elliott as a link man and McManus a target man in FF we look strong enough. But i think we lack around 4 or 5 players to go to the next level. We need 50% more out of some players. S Elliott for example, fantastic hurler btw. Id like to see Boyle get a start v Tipp.

Chance now to try a few players v Tipp next weekend.

Conditions will be different come champuonship in May say sun shining, harder ground and bigger pitches etc.

Not comparing like with like.

Look at the score fest V Kerry in Croke Park last year. Score, after score, after score.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 01:07:02 PM
Thats a fair enough point but Kerry no distrespect are a different level to our next tests. And winter hurling isnt great to watch and were maybe hitting bad wides/ shots dropping short. Dublin game a great example. Donal Burke isnt hitting these in winter. What will he be like in "summer"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 13, 2023, 01:48:58 PM
Look at the 2nd half against kerry in croke, thank god we had a big lead cos we folded like a deck of cards.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 13, 2023, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: Upandover on March 13, 2023, 01:48:58 PM
Look at the 2nd half against kerry in croke, thank god we had a big lead cos we folded like a deck of cards.

Aye, if that match had have went on another 5 minutes, Kerry would have won it.

They built up some head of steam especially after Jordan Conway came on and scored 2 goals which put Antrim on the back foot, coupled with Podge Boyle missing very little from the placed ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 13, 2023, 02:02:41 PM
As many have said it was good to just get over the line. Perhaps its because Laois were not at the same level as Kilkenny or Dublin or perhaps we have improved but our puck outs were better yesterday. Elliot and McKenna were good targets and so was Joe Maskey.
Another bloody dreadful day weather wise, two matches in Corrigan and two soakings, hopefully its a dry day against Tipp.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 04:48:31 PM
A big reason maybe for getting over the line yesterday is the consistency that has came around the squad! We performed decent last year in the league. Stayed up this year. Winter hurling. Hopefully we can get best 15 to 20 players on the pitch and big performances come championship
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2023, 04:51:58 PM
County requires 2 or 3 years to get up to the speed and conditioning. You look at our footballers and year on year we've a different squad and then they're not at the level conditioning wise. Our hurlers have had really good continuity the last few years. If you read the Laois thread they said we were too physical - how many times do you read that about antrim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 13, 2023, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 13, 2023, 04:51:58 PM
County requires 2 or 3 years to get up to the speed and conditioning. You look at our footballers and year on year we've a different squad and then they're not at the level conditioning wise. Our hurlers have had really good continuity the last few years. If you read the Laois thread they said we were too physical - how many times do you read that about antrim?

Fair point.

Hard to beat having the same panel and same backroom management.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 13, 2023, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
While the end result was good i still cant get too excited about the uncoming champinship. McManus, Bradley, Coby were all brilliant yesterday. Defensivly we put our bodies on the line but overall we have a lot of improving to do. The goal was criminal! Campbell, Burke and Bradley in defense look solid. Have we another 3 defenders up to championship level? On a positive the link play Coby brings is fantastic. If we could get McNaughton driving forward from midfield too along with Keelan. Elliott as a link man and McManus a target man in FF we look strong enough. But i think we lack around 4 or 5 players to go to the next level. We need 50% more out of some players. S Elliott for example, fantastic hurler btw. Id like to see Boyle get a start v Tipp.

Would agree with this, probably 3/4 players short & that's no disrespect to those that are there. They are the best we have. The trick for any team is to introduce more players that are up to it over a 2/3 year period, with the right age profile.

Someone needs to nail down that CF spot that Eoin O'Neill, Conor Johnston & Seaan Elliott have failed to nail down. Leinster championship will tell a lot
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2023, 09:51:56 PM
Gleeson has been fantastic for us. I think we are borderline punching above our weight tbh but while we still have gleeson and McManus the hope would be that we develop younger players to a higher standard and put enough pride in the jersey so that year on year we have the best we have giving their all.

Kilkenny and Galway will be too much for us. The Wexford and Dublin games will be interesting - you would hope we could maybe spring a surprise there. Westmeath will be like yesterday and be a dogfight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 10:08:32 PM
Would beat Westmeath 9 out of 10 games, Wexford and Dublin just 5 or 6 points better if we don't have our best team..

Peak summer Galway and Kilkenny could open us up. That said Galway can have a brain fart every so often.

We need to be unearthing more physical players. Yes the skills are important but looking at the size of other top teams, the players they are some size, fielding, hard running, breaking tackles, we need that at this level

From the under 20 games this year, who's coming through?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 13, 2023, 10:28:44 PM
Don't agree about Westmeath. It'll be tight.

I think the under 17s are stronger than the under 20s. There's a few of them even stepped up to the under 20s I think. The biggest prospects seem to be loughgiel forwards and quite a few of them but all a bit young yet.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 13, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
I think the problem with the Leinster Championship will be the other teams have never really been at full pelt in the league and have a gear or two to go up, we don't in my opinion and for most matches have put out close to the best we had available. I expect losses in all games aside from Westmeath which will decide our fate. I'd love to be wrong obviously but just an honest and realistic opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 11:27:56 PM
Remember where we were at! Meath beat us, we have improved ten fold, but yes the gap is massive, with our best 15 all fit we still fall away with 7 minutes of normal time this year in the league, we need personnel that'll improve the team mid way through second half when our lads our busted.

Strength in depth helps pull everyone along and fighting for positions and maintaining standards when going into the last quarter

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 14, 2023, 08:43:51 AM
Agree with most of it, the next target would be to over take the Dubs and I dont think we are that far away at our best.

Think ITG getting carried away with certain individuals, its horses for courses at this time of the year on wet heavy pitches. Championship won't be like that in the main so the effectiveness of that style of hurling wains and different types are required.

Massive bonus to be in Div 1 again for another year, hopefully we can kick on a bit in the championship and keep things rolling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2023, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 13, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
I think the problem with the Leinster Championship will be the other teams have never really been at full pelt in the league and have a gear or two to go up, we don't in my opinion and for most matches have put out close to the best we had available. I expect losses in all games aside from Westmeath which will decide our fate. I'd love to be wrong obviously but just an honest and realistic opinion.

Westmeath have had the Indian sign over Antrim the past few years.

They have big strong bucks at 3, 6, 11 along with Killian Doyle who rarely misses a free.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2023, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2023, 11:27:56 PM
Remember where we were at! Meath beat us, we have improved ten fold, but yes the gap is massive, with our best 15 all fit we still fall away with 7 minutes of normal time this year in the league, we need personnel that'll improve the team mid way through second half when our lads our busted.

Strength in depth helps pull everyone along and fighting for positions and maintaining standards when going into the last quarter

Twice LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 14, 2023, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 13, 2023, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
While the end result was good i still cant get too excited about the uncoming champinship. McManus, Bradley, Coby were all brilliant yesterday. Defensivly we put our bodies on the line but overall we have a lot of improving to do. The goal was criminal! Campbell, Burke and Bradley in defense look solid. Have we another 3 defenders up to championship level? On a positive the link play Coby brings is fantastic. If we could get McNaughton driving forward from midfield too along with Keelan. Elliott as a link man and McManus a target man in FF we look strong enough. But i think we lack around 4 or 5 players to go to the next level. We need 50% more out of some players. S Elliott for example, fantastic hurler btw. Id like to see Boyle get a start v Tipp.

Would agree with this, probably 3/4 players short & that's no disrespect to those that are there. They are the best we have. The trick for any team is to introduce more players that are up to it over a 2/3 year period, with the right age profile.

Someone needs to nail down that CF spot that Eoin O'Neill, Conor Johnston & Seaan Elliott have failed to nail down. Leinster championship will tell a lot

That other position is a big problem. Coby has shown to be better out the field too. You need to be a top hurler, physical and a great ball winner to play back to goal at that level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 14, 2023, 11:59:34 AM
Has the damage been done in the previous 4 or 5 years before Gleeson. Not developing a lower league forward to county level. A James O'Connell, Sean Duffin to give two examples. Im sure there are a good few others too. There are a few young lads showing promise (scullion-glenarm) but will they be ready for it by the time Glesson / McManus / Campbell step away. Possibly not

Whats the time scale on McCann and Clarke
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 17, 2023, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 14, 2023, 11:59:34 AM
Has the damage been done in the previous 4 or 5 years before Gleeson. Not developing a lower league forward to county level. A James O'Connell, Sean Duffin to give two examples. Im sure there are a good few others too. There are a few young lads showing promise (scullion-glenarm) but will they be ready for it by the time Glesson / McManus / Campbell step away. Possibly not

Whats the time scale on McCann and Clarke

Clarke did his cruciate which is normally 12 months, I wouldn't be expecting him back in time for the Leinster championship. McCann I don't know anything about.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on March 19, 2023, 04:51:26 PM
Thank god we didnt need anything today, tipp sauntered to victory.

Antrim defo missed neil in forward line.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2023, 06:38:58 PM
I heard a female photographer was the highlight of the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 07:05:31 PM
Another example that the top teams do the basics better than anyone else under pressure, dipping, hooking, blocking. Unfortunately we are light years behind the very top teams
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 19, 2023, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2023, 06:38:58 PM
I heard a female photographer was the highlight of the day.

Dylan or Curly?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2023, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 07:05:31 PM
Another example that the top teams do the basics better than anyone else under pressure, dipping, hooking, blocking. Unfortunately we are light years behind the very top teams

Correct. They do it under pressure.  Second nature to them.

But Antrim should be at that level now with playing against the top teams in last few years.
Game was over after 20 mins.  Tipp were like, let's put this game to bed early doors and don't give Antrim a sniff.

Tipp are in a semi-final now and lads have got plenty of game time.  SC injured, no Forde, Mc Grath, Seamie Kennedy or Kehoe etc. today. O' Connor is a decent free-taker. One for the future.

Antrim's goals in second half boosted the score board in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 08:06:11 PM
It takes more than a year or two in the same league. Tipp are miles above most tbf but it's a level above what we are at. I still think Gleeson is doing a great job regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 08:06:11 PM
It takes more than a year or two in the same league. Tipp are miles above most tbf but it's a level above what we are at. I still think Gleeson is doing a great job regardless.

I don't think it's just a matter of years in the same division, we have to be producing the players too. Look at Wexford, how many years are they in Div 1? Probably going backwards. Next year is four consecutive years in Div 1 I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
Yeah it goes from underage right up. I still think we are punching above our weight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
Yeah it goes from underage right up. I still think we are punching above our weight.

I'm not sure we are, I think where we are is probably about right.

Look at the teams immediately below or around us, Laois, Westmeath, Kildare, Kerry, Offaly. We should be ahead of them all really when you look at resources, populations etc
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2023, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
Yeah it goes from underage right up. I still think we are punching above our weight.

I'm not sure we are, I think where we are is probably about right.

Look at the teams immediately below or around us, Laois, Westmeath, Kildare, Kerry, Offaly. We should be ahead of them all really when you look at resources, populations etc

I think Antrim could beat Westmeath also so I think they're well settled in Div. 1 now. That 3 or 4 good years of S&C, so they should be getting up to speed with things now.

Need to be producing another player or two over the next year or two.  I presume Mc Manus has another year in him. He's been some servant to Antrim through the years. Sets high standards.

What would the age profile of the first 15 be, currently?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2023, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
Yeah it goes from underage right up. I still think we are punching above our weight.

I'm not sure we are, I think where we are is probably about right.

Look at the teams immediately below or around us, Laois, Westmeath, Kildare, Kerry, Offaly. We should be ahead of them all really when you look at resources, populations etc
Groundhog Day in here. Run a big team close, think we're on the up, get tanked and ask where we go next. We've been knocking about that Laois, Westmeath level for years because that's our natural level. Giving Kilkenny or somebody a rattle every few years doesn't mean were ready to dine at the top table and we may never.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2023, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 19, 2023, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 19, 2023, 09:06:36 PM
Yeah it goes from underage right up. I still think we are punching above our weight.

I'm not sure we are, I think where we are is probably about right.

Look at the teams immediately below or around us, Laois, Westmeath, Kildare, Kerry, Offaly. We should be ahead of them all really when you look at resources, populations etc

We've 3 or 4 decent consistent senior teams, we've 3 teams in our senior leagues which play for another county. Our resources not great and population wise it's a split county and one with a city with multiple sports being played.

Think we are doing well and need to back up what we have achieved with bringing lads through
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2023, 11:17:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 19, 2023, 06:38:58 PM
I heard a female photographer was the highlight of the day.

Tell us more!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 22, 2023, 03:49:07 PM
Predictions for Sunday?

O'NEILLS SPORTSWEAR ACHL DIV 1
Ballycran---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí
Cathaoir an Rí---v---Na Seamróga
Ballygalget GAC---v---Naomh Éanna
Ruairí Óg---v---Mac Uílín CLG
ACHL DIV 2
Glenariffe Oisin CLG---v---Kickhams
Robert Emmets Cushendun---v---Tír na nÓg
Bredagh---v---Naomh Gall
Shane Uí Néill---v---Pádraig Sáirseil
Carryduff---v---Ghaeil Chluanaidh

ACHL DIV 3
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Na Magha
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn---v---Cuchulainn
Glen Rovers---v---Lamh DheargGlen Rovers GACRyan O Reilly
Gort na Móna CLG---v---All Saints Ballymena
ACHL DIV 4
Belfast Saints HC---v---Anraí Seoighe
Naomh Bríd---v---Ciceam Ard Eoin
MacDaibhéid---v---Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 22, 2023, 04:01:41 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 22, 2023, 03:49:07 PM
Predictions for Sunday?

O'NEILLS SPORTSWEAR ACHL DIV 1
Ballycran---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí
Cathaoir an Rí---v---Na Seamróga
Ballygalget GAC---v---Naomh Éanna
Ruairí Óg---v---Mac Uílín CLG
ACHL DIV 2
Glenariffe Oisin CLG---v---Kickhams
Robert Emmets Cushendun---v---Tír na nÓg
Bredagh---v---Naomh Gall
Shane Uí Néill---v---Pádraig Sáirseil
Carryduff---v---Ghaeil Chluanaidh

ACHL DIV 3
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Na Magha
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn---v---Cuchulainn
Glen Rovers---v---Lamh DheargGlen Rovers GACRyan O Reilly
Gort na Móna CLG---v---All Saints Ballymena
ACHL DIV 4
Belfast Saints HC---v---Anraí Seoighe
Naomh Bríd---v---Ciceam Ard Eoin
MacDaibhéid---v---Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC

No county players I believe, are Antrim hurlers off to Portugal?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 22, 2023, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 22, 2023, 04:01:41 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 22, 2023, 03:49:07 PM
Predictions for Sunday?

O'NEILLS SPORTSWEAR ACHL DIV 1
Ballycran---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí
Cathaoir an Rí---v---Na Seamróga
Ballygalget GAC---v---Naomh Éanna
Ruairí Óg---v---Mac Uílín CLG
ACHL DIV 2
Glenariffe Oisin CLG---v---Kickhams
Robert Emmets Cushendun---v---Tír na nÓg
Bredagh---v---Naomh Gall
Shane Uí Néill---v---Pádraig Sáirseil
Carryduff---v---Ghaeil Chluanaidh

ACHL DIV 3
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Na Magha
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn---v---Cuchulainn
Glen Rovers---v---Lamh DheargGlen Rovers GACRyan O Reilly
Gort na Móna CLG---v---All Saints Ballymena
ACHL DIV 4
Belfast Saints HC---v---Anraí Seoighe
Naomh Bríd---v---Ciceam Ard Eoin
MacDaibhéid---v---Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC

No county players I believe, are Antrim hurlers off to Portugal?

Yeah supposed to be, but Antrim aren't well resourced apparently  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 22, 2023, 05:05:16 PM
O'NEILLS SPORTSWEAR ACHL DIV 1
Ballycran---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí BALLYCRAN 2
Cathaoir an Rí---v---Na Seamróga LOUGHGIEL 15
Ballygalget GAC---v---Naomh Éanna B'GALGET 4
Ruairí Óg---v---Mac Uílín CLG CUSHENDALL 10
ACHL DIV 2
Glenariffe Oisin CLG---v---Kickhams DRAW
Robert Emmets Cushendun---v---Tír na nÓg CUSHENDUN 8
Bredagh---v---Naomh Gall DRAW
Shane Uí Néill---v---Pádraig Sáirseil SARSFIELDS 4
Carryduff---v---Ghaeil Chluanaidh AHOGHILL 2

ACHL DIV 3
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Na Magha GLENRAVEL 2
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn---v---Cuchulainn CLOUGHMILLS 4
Glen Rovers---v---Lamh Dhearg ARMOY 2
Gort na Móna CLG---v---All Saints Ballymena GNM 5
ACHL DIV 4
Belfast Saints HC---v---Anraí Seoighe SAINTS 10+
Naomh Bríd---v---Ciceam Ard Eoin ARDOYNE 8+
MacDaibhéid---v---Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC DAVITTS 8+
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 22, 2023, 10:56:18 PM
Who are Belfast Saints & Anraí Seoighe in Div 4?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 22, 2023, 11:03:59 PM
Anrai Seoighe are Henry Joys. They play hurling and then there's Mary Anne's that played Camogie although I don't think they're fielding this year. North Belfast direction I believe.

Belfast Saints I believe are an amalgamation of a couple of Belfast teams. St Agnes and St Teresa maybe if I remember right. Pretty sure someone said that a few pages back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:14:09 AM

O'NEILLS SPORTSWEAR ACHL DIV 1
Ballycran---v---Cuchullains Dun Lathaí Dunloy 4
Cathaoir an Rí---v---Na Seamróga LOUGHGIEL 10
Ballygalget GAC---v---Naomh Éanna DRAW
Ruairí Óg---v---Mac Uílín CLG CUSHENDALL 8
ACHL DIV 2
Glenariffe Oisin CLG---v---Kickhams GLENARIFFE 2
Robert Emmets Cushendun---v---Tír na nÓg CUSHENDUN 6
Bredagh---v---Naomh Gall NAOMH GALL 2
Shane Uí Néill---v---Pádraig Sáirseil DRAW
Carryduff---v---Ghaeil Chluanaidh CLOONEY 6

ACHL DIV 3
Con Magee's Glenravel---v---Na Magha GLENRAVEL 5
Naomh Brid Cloiche An Mhuillinn---v---Cuchulainn CLOUGHMILLS 4
Glen Rovers---v---Lamh Dhearg ARMOY 6
Gort na Móna CLG---v---All Saints Ballymena GNM 5
ACHL DIV 4
Belfast Saints HC---v---Anraí Seoighe SAINTS 10+
Naomh Bríd---v---Ciceam Ard Eoin ST BRIGIDS 5
MacDaibhéid---v---Loch Mór Dál gCais GAC DAVITTS 10+
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?

As a player/manager loved seeing these guys turn up

Tommy McIntyre 
Gerry mcclory
big Jim (god rest him) McLean
Eugene from Ballycastle
Gough, loads of respect and he was physically intimidating lol
Owen Elliot, didn't blow too many times and wasn't shy in telling players to wise up get up and get on with it.

Regarding one's today Fintan would have a lot of respect from lot of current players I speak to both football and hurling.
Having done the line for Skinny plenty times he's a very good communicator on the pitch which is all you want..

There are a good few more but I'm looking at this from my own playing days, as a defender from early on to a playing up front in my latter days you always knew how these ref's ref'd the game and adopted accordingly

Latter years of playing the county did an extensive course for ref's and Ray Mathews Garrett Duffy and Co became 'super ref's' didn't see them have too many bad games either
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 25, 2023, 04:08:04 PM
Minors beat by 11 in Leinster c'ship by Galway
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 25, 2023, 04:08:04 PM
Minors beat by 11 in Leinster c'ship by Galway

Galway big favourites for the whole thing I heard, so while it's an 11 point defeat we've seen bigger hammerings in these competitions over the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2023, 04:54:53 PM
I think that was a decent crop for us and a few were up to under 20s too (apparently).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 25, 2023, 06:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 25, 2023, 04:08:04 PM
Minors beat by 11 in Leinster c'ship by Galway

Galway big favourites for the whole thing I heard, so while it's an 11 point defeat we've seen bigger hammerings in these competitions over the last few years.

11 pt defeat in hurling is nothing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 27, 2023, 09:51:41 AM
Big win yesterday for Tir na Nog away to Cushendun, Creggan look like they are in a relegation battle already
Glenarm and All Saints starting the new leagues with a win also
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on March 27, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 27, 2023, 09:51:41 AM
Big win yesterday for Tir na Nog away to Cushendun, Creggan look like they are in a relegation battle already
Glenarm and All Saints starting the new leagues with a win also

Sarsfields I'm guessing missing 3 Antrim players ? Tough for a Div 2 team to absorb
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 10:09:44 AM
I was looking for that. Daniel McKernan was playing.

He had looked to be breaking through but seems to have dropped off again whether that be injuries or what I don't know.

Tough alright as you'd expect McKenna in particular to star there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 27, 2023, 10:15:51 AM
I think there are two daniel mckernans
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2023, 10:44:39 AM
Ah ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: stiffler on March 27, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
Portglenone 9/2 for championship , get on before that price is cut.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: glens73 on March 27, 2023, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 27, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
Portglenone 9/2 for championship , get on before that price is cut.

To win the hurling, I wouldn't bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 27, 2023, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: glens73 on March 27, 2023, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 27, 2023, 02:07:10 PM
Portglenone 9/2 for championship , get on before that price is cut.

To win the hurling, I wouldn't bother.

To be fair I think their chances in the hurling are about the same as their chances in the football  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 27, 2023, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 27, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 27, 2023, 09:51:41 AM
Big win yesterday for Tir na Nog away to Cushendun, Creggan look like they are in a relegation battle already
Glenarm and All Saints starting the new leagues with a win also

Sarsfields I'm guessing missing 3 Antrim players ? Tough for a Div 2 team to absorb

I was at the Shane Uí Néill Vs Sarsfields game. Glenarm made a great start and took a big lead. Sarsfields came back  with a rattle second half but had left themselves too much to do. Tough old match on a very heavy pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on March 28, 2023, 08:31:48 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 27, 2023, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on March 27, 2023, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 27, 2023, 09:51:41 AM
Big win yesterday for Tir na Nog away to Cushendun, Creggan look like they are in a relegation battle already
Glenarm and All Saints starting the new leagues with a win also

Sarsfields I'm guessing missing 3 Antrim players ? Tough for a Div 2 team to absorb

I was at the Shane Uí Néill Vs Sarsfields game. Glenarm made a great start and took a big lead. Sarsfields came back  with a rattle second half but had left themselves too much to do. Tough old match on a very heavy pitch.
A lot of the pitches are very heavy right now. Early start to the season and a wet spring combined with heavy training on the pitches is taking its toll.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 28, 2023, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?

As a player/manager loved seeing these guys turn up

Tommy McIntyre 
Gerry mcclory
big Jim (god rest him) McLean
Eugene from Ballycastle
Gough, loads of respect and he was physically intimidating lol
Owen Elliot, didn't blow too many times and wasn't shy in telling players to wise up get up and get on with it.

Regarding one's today Fintan would have a lot of respect from lot of current players I speak to both football and hurling.
Having done the line for Skinny plenty times he's a very good communicator on the pitch which is all you want..

There are a good few more but I'm looking at this from my own playing days, as a defender from early on to a playing up front in my latter days you always knew how these ref's ref'd the game and adopted accordingly

Latter years of playing the county did an extensive course for ref's and Ray Mathews Garrett Duffy and Co became 'super ref's' didn't see them have too many bad games either

We'd Patrick Tumelty down with us and I thought he did a good job as ourselves and St Enda's have been feisty enough the last few years.
Is he long refereeing as I've never encountered him before?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2023, 02:08:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 28, 2023, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?

As a player/manager loved seeing these guys turn up

Tommy McIntyre 
Gerry mcclory
big Jim (god rest him) McLean
Eugene from Ballycastle
Gough, loads of respect and he was physically intimidating lol
Owen Elliot, didn't blow too many times and wasn't shy in telling players to wise up get up and get on with it.

Regarding one's today Fintan would have a lot of respect from lot of current players I speak to both football and hurling.
Having done the line for Skinny plenty times he's a very good communicator on the pitch which is all you want..

There are a good few more but I'm looking at this from my own playing days, as a defender from early on to a playing up front in my latter days you always knew how these ref's ref'd the game and adopted accordingly

Latter years of playing the county did an extensive course for ref's and Ray Mathews Garrett Duffy and Co became 'super ref's' didn't see them have too many bad games either

We'd Patrick Tumelty down with us and I thought he did a good job as ourselves and St Enda's have been feisty enough the last few years.
Is he long refereeing as I've never encountered him before?

3 or 4 years now, Paddy has played senior in both codes for his club, plenty playing experience. handles things well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 28, 2023, 02:39:28 PM
He's a fine ref. Wasn't feared to mix it as a player either
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?


Creating fake accounts to heap praise on yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2023, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?


Creating fake accounts to heap praise on yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂

Aye, created an account in 2013 posted twice to big myself up!! You are clutching lad but hey you crack on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 03, 2023, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2023, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?


Creating fake accounts to heap praise on yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂

Aye, created an account in 2013 posted twice to big myself up!! You are clutching lad but hey you crack on
Are you Owen Elliott?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on April 03, 2023, 08:30:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 03, 2023, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2023, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?


Creating fake accounts to heap praise on yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂

Aye, created an account in 2013 posted twice to big myself up!! You are clutching lad but hey you crack on
Are you Owen Elliott?

Billy Elliot the dancer.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: scamroc on April 04, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
This might have been asked and answered before so apologies if so - what's happening with promotion and relegation in the 4 hurling leagues this year? I heard there's no promotion from Div3 which is harsh on teams playing all year for no prize.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 04, 2023, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: scamroc on April 04, 2023, 03:23:35 PM
This might have been asked and answered before so apologies if so - what's happening with promotion and relegation in the 4 hurling leagues this year? I heard there's no promotion from Div3 which is harsh on teams playing all year for no prize.

Still get your prize for winning the league title, but there was no relegation for 2 years and has to be addressed at some point
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
11 in 1 and 2 and 9 in 3 so will have to be evened out i would think. 2 down 1 up would sort it in div 1-2. then 3 down 1 up 2 to 3. 2 down 1 up 3 to 4 leaves 10 10 10 8
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: scamroc on April 04, 2023, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
11 in 1 and 2 and 9 in 3 so will have to be evened out i would think. 2 down 1 up would sort it in div 1-2. then 3 down 1 up 2 to 3. 2 down 1 up 3 to 4 leaves 10 10 10 8

Yes but is there still promotion for winning the league in Div 2, 3 and 4? That's really what I'm asking
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on April 06, 2023, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: realisticsaff on April 03, 2023, 09:58:27 AM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on March 25, 2023, 07:20:13 AM
Saw an interesting discussion on the football thread re favourite refs.
Always had a preference to those that could let the game go and still maintain control of the game, if that's possible. Was always fond of the refs who'd talk to you with respect too, if they blew a foul, you knew what for an you got on with it (regardless of your manager/supporters being blue in the face!)

Owen Elliot
Skinny
Darren McKeown
Fintan McCotter

Def forgetting some good refs, Any others?


Creating fake accounts to heap praise on yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂

I'm Spartacus! 🫣
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 06, 2023, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: scamroc on April 04, 2023, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 04, 2023, 04:11:07 PM
11 in 1 and 2 and 9 in 3 so will have to be evened out i would think. 2 down 1 up would sort it in div 1-2. then 3 down 1 up 2 to 3. 2 down 1 up 3 to 4 leaves 10 10 10 8

Yes but is there still promotion for winning the league in Div 2, 3 and 4? That's really what I'm asking

Cushendun were relegated from Div 1 and replaced by Carey.

As second from bottom we were due to play Creggan who were 2nd in Div2 with the winner staying up, they decided to stay put so that game wasn't played.

I'd expect this to be the same for 2023, but who knows with Antrim CB.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 07, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Antrim minors beat by 4 by Laois and finish bottom of their group. Antrim well behind and got it back to level towards the end
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on April 10, 2023, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 07, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
Antrim minors beat by 4 by Laois and finish bottom of their group. Antrim well behind and got it back to level towards the end

Antrim under 20s beaten by Westmeath at the weekend also. We are so far off the pace at juvenile level it is embarrassing. Meath up next for the Under 20s, that match could go either way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 12, 2023, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.

Funny you say that i've heard of a promising juvenile player who missed a trial and when managment were asked to consider the player they politely refused
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on April 12, 2023, 04:30:40 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 12, 2023, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.

Funny you say that i've heard of a promising juvenile player who missed a trial and when managment were asked to consider the player they politely refused

You'd think they'd have some flexibility.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 12, 2023, 04:44:32 PM
Im sure an extra body at training for a few weeks (if a trial period was agreed) would be a positive rather than a negative
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on April 12, 2023, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.

Development squads at 9/10 yr old? :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on April 13, 2023, 10:42:46 AM
Quote from: Upandover on April 12, 2023, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.

Development squads at 9/10 yr old? :o

I think 13/14 is more accurate
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
why in the intermediate is there two groups of 7 teams can they not stretch it out to 4 groups
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on April 13, 2023, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 13, 2023, 10:42:46 AM
Quote from: Upandover on April 12, 2023, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on April 11, 2023, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 10, 2023, 09:26:58 PM
Not sure what the solution is. There's some really good players coming through, the lads coaching them are good and working hard but rather than closing the gap on the top teir we seem to be getting caught up by that next tier down.
I saw Anthony Daly talking about Limerick underage structures a couple of years back. What he basically said was each development squad had 25 players but that each squad at each age group was reviewed on a three monthly basis. Players who were not performing in training and matches were cut and and new players brought in to replace them. He said every juvenile match had a county assessor at it to report on all relevant players performance. ( Plenty of money in Limerick hurling ). This lead to a ruthless driving up of standards in training and matches across the board.
It is my perception of Antrim juvenile structures that players get on development squads at age 9/10 and stay there until 17 regardless of how they are developing provided they keep turning up. We may not have the pick of Limerick (and certainly not the funds) but there is no doubt that we are being caught by counties like Kildare, Westmeath etc and are not remotely close to challenging the Galways, Kilkennys etc.

Development squads at 9/10 yr old? :o

I think 13/14 is more accurate

North Antrim used to run development squads for under 10s, it may have fallen by the wayside now but it definitely used to be a thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on April 13, 2023, 12:19:37 PM
Good to see the under 20s won well against Meath last night, fair play. Score seemed tight enough in first half and then Antrim ran away with it in the second half. Strong wind probably, I wasn't at it so cannot say. Still well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 13, 2023, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
why in the intermediate is there two groups of 7 teams can they not stretch it out to 4 groups

Does anyone know the set up? top 2 into semis?

2 groups in junior. last year top into semi finals and 2nd v 3rd in a quarter final

IMO bring back straight knock out. Groups brought in during covid as lack of league games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on April 13, 2023, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 13, 2023, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
why in the intermediate is there two groups of 7 teams can they not stretch it out to 4 groups

Does anyone know the set up? top 2 into semis?

2 groups in junior. last year top into semi finals and 2nd v 3rd in a quarter final

IMO bring back straight knock out. Groups brought in during covid as lack of league games

2 groups of 5 in IHC
Top 2 go to Semis

JHC
Top team  go to semis
2nd v 3rd  play off for semi spot
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 13, 2023, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 13, 2023, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
why in the intermediate is there two groups of 7 teams can they not stretch it out to 4 groups

Does anyone know the set up? top 2 into semis?

2 groups in junior. last year top into semi finals and 2nd v 3rd in a quarter final

IMO bring back straight knock out. Groups brought in during covid as lack of league games

2 groups of 5 in IHC
Top 2 go to Semis

JHC
Top team  go to semis
2nd v 3rd  play off for semi spot

This Just means dead rubbers by the end of the competition
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: antrimman667 on April 13, 2023, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 13, 2023, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 13, 2023, 12:44:21 PM
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why in the intermediate is there two groups of 7 teams can they not stretch it out to 4 groups

Does anyone know the set up? top 2 into semis?

2 groups in junior. last year top into semi finals and 2nd v 3rd in a quarter final

IMO bring back straight knock out. Groups brought in during covid as lack of league games

2 groups of 5 in IHC
Top 2 go to Semis

JHC
Top team  go to semis
2nd v 3rd  play off for semi spot

This Just means dead rubbers by the end of the competition

Only dead rubbers if teams have nothing to play for. It's not the competition set up that makes them dead rubbers but the teams that either put the effort in or don't! .. at the end of the competition and teams are playing to get top two then it's exciting
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on April 13, 2023, 10:56:15 PM
Even the group stages in the Championships, you'll still see a fair bit of rotation in the top teams as they save players for the big knock out matches.

It's one thing I think the GAA are poor at. Loads of leagues that have a final at the end and then you start Championship with a league. Do a league and then do a knockout championship, there's no greater spectacle in sport than if you don't win, you go home. The product has become diluted, probably to ensure a few extra quid along the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 13, 2023, 11:19:41 PM
Double edge sword, championship diluted by not being straight knock out, but more games for players who have worked their arse off all year for the club, swings and roundabouts
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2023, 11:31:21 PM
Bring in what a lot of counties do, groups and playoffs with relegation thrown in to keep it competitive till the end
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on April 15, 2023, 08:28:48 PM
Cushendall won U-15 Feile today, beating Loughgiel in the final at Dunsilly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on April 15, 2023, 08:41:51 PM
I came across the Antrim u20 hurling squad on twitter last week and noticed that there was only 1 cushendall player on the panel.

There was a cushendall man named as a selector so obviously no club bias involved. Would they be weak at that level or is it just a once off year with low numbers at that age group.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on April 15, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on April 15, 2023, 08:28:48 PM
Cushendall won U-15 Feile today, beating Loughgiel in the final at Dunsilly

Not much between them today. That's 2 in a row for Cushendall. Gort na Mona beat St John's in the final of the B competition as well. They looked very good too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 15, 2023, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

In what way ? Kids and coaches I know that have been involved really enjoy it. Mind you tough going now with all the games and final on the day. Really poor promotion of it today from Gaelfast, sporadic updates from games that weren't over
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 16, 2023, 12:31:56 AM
I remember feile like yesterday, not much has change in nearly 50 years!! What are we looking for, really?

Anyone coaching it not that doesn't adopt to how it's actually run needs to look at how grey approach this competition over others.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on April 16, 2023, 07:36:24 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

You mean competitive stuff and giving everyone a go?

I suppose there must be a 'cut off' point where Go Games end for definative and competition starts properly.

Is there not like a seeded thing now in counties, where teams are graded?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 16, 2023, 07:36:24 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

You mean competitive stuff and giving everyone a go?

I suppose there must be a 'cut off' point where Go Games end for definative and competition starts properly.

Is there not like a seeded thing now in counties, where teams are graded?

Teams have to make 4 subs, the ref stops the game to make them do it. Well Antrim yesterday there was a Div 1 & 2 separate competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on April 16, 2023, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

I'd make the case that Féile is basically just Go Games but for U-15 kids and with results kept. In North Antrim there's Championship from u-11 so u-15 will be well use to results being kept.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 17, 2023, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 16, 2023, 07:36:24 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

You mean competitive stuff and giving everyone a go?

I suppose there must be a 'cut off' point where Go Games end for definative and competition starts properly.

Is there not like a seeded thing now in counties, where teams are graded?

Teams have to make 4 subs, the ref stops the game to make them do it. Well Antrim yesterday there was a Div 1 & 2 separate competition.

Do Antrim do that in their county Feile?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on April 17, 2023, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

Not so sure it's Feile where the problem lies. More so the attitude/behaviour of some coaches.
Feile is great for getting more games and a chance to experience hurling against teams from other counties etc.
it's the kids with bad coaches that don't enjoy the experience eg coach gets too competitive, acts the complete maggot and forgets he's dealing with 12-15 year olds. He might make less substitutes (which is life) but might not be as sensitive in helping a child understand the reasoning for no game time, how they could improve etc. 

Not really sure about Saffrongaels comment about the "promotion" of it from Gaelfast, I'd much prefer the focus was on coordinating the games, sorting venues and using their time working with clubs and in schools as opposed to being glorified PROs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 17, 2023, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 17, 2023, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 16, 2023, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 16, 2023, 07:36:24 AM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on April 15, 2023, 11:34:50 PM
Feile is everything that is bad about the Gaa, a horrible competition that goes completely against everything the Gaa have been promoting via go games

You mean competitive stuff and giving everyone a go?

I suppose there must be a 'cut off' point where Go Games end for definative and competition starts properly.

Is there not like a seeded thing now in counties, where teams are graded?

Teams have to make 4 subs, the ref stops the game to make them do it. Well Antrim yesterday there was a Div 1 & 2 separate competition.

Do Antrim do that in their county Feile?

Yeah
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on April 18, 2023, 10:41:42 AM
Big game on Saturday V the Dubs in Corrigan. Looking forward to it although the Dubs have definitely had the upper hand on us in recent years. Hopefully we have a full strength team out because our strength in depth wouldn't be great.
Hoping to see McManus, Cunning, Molloy and James Mc Naughten on a lot of ball. Most of our strength is in attack so hopefully a good day and a dry ball will help us.
We need to win a high percentage of our own puckouts though which has been an issue throughout the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 18, 2023, 01:05:58 PM
i think our half back line/midfield will be where the game is won and lost. Confident we can do damage up front given the right ball. Can we mark burke out of the game and keep the free count down?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 18, 2023, 01:27:39 PM
Should be a good game, we will know where we are at better after the phoney war of the league being over. Be concerned about the pitch at Corrigan, didn't look great a couple of weeks ago when I saw it & isn't getting any time to recover.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2023, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 18, 2023, 01:27:39 PM
Should be a good game, we will know where we are at better after the phoney war of the league being over. Be concerned about the pitch at Corrigan, didn't look great a couple of weeks ago when I saw it & isn't getting any time to recover.

Wouldn't be too many pitches available that would be in great condition tbf..

As for the team, I seen McManus had a cast on I think (from distance) I seen, so hopefully just a precaution for him.. Dubs are a big physical team and skill too so it will be very tough.

We need to be at our best and they will have to be going at 70% for us to get something
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 18, 2023, 02:34:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 18, 2023, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 18, 2023, 01:27:39 PM
Should be a good game, we will know where we are at better after the phoney war of the league being over. Be concerned about the pitch at Corrigan, didn't look great a couple of weeks ago when I saw it & isn't getting any time to recover.

Wouldn't be too many pitches available that would be in great condition tbf..

As for the team, I seen McManus had a cast on I think (from distance) I seen, so hopefully just a precaution for him.. Dubs are a big physical team and skill too so it will be very tough.

We need to be at our best and they will have to be going at 70% for us to get something

100%, it's just a by product of having a club ground that is getting used every day of the week doubling as your county ground
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on April 19, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
Why have we go games fixtures on Saturday afternoon and juvenile league games? Antrim playing Dublin in the Leinster championship ffs, kids be far better off in Corrigan watching and getting the bug
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 21, 2023, 11:18:59 PM
Antrim team named. Niall McKenna not on panel. Injured ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 21, 2023, 11:23:52 PM
Picked up a knock in training acc to SG. A real pity that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on April 22, 2023, 07:41:29 AM
Forecast giving heavy rain so that should suit Antrim.

Frees will be crucial, on both sides.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2023, 07:47:13 AM
McKenna big loss with physicality. It'll be very interesting to see how seaaan Elliot gets on at half forward. Hopefully being out the field suits his pace.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
Going to be a tough game regardless of our best 15 available...

We need to take our goal chances, we need to be dogged in the tackle and play for 72 minutes not 65 and let 4 unanswered points go in, manage the game, be within a score all the time if going behind, work the frees if we have to, target their weaknesses and strengthen ours.

Was down at Dunsilly on Thursday night when they had a soft session before today. Fingers crossed we get a good start
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 04:08:15 PM
Would have taken a draw beforehand but another one that got away. Mind you Dublin and Burke in particular had some desperate wides

Antrim gave it everything they had
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
Mixed feelings....a defeat at the end would have been absolute heartbreak but overall weren't we the better side? Yeah a draw we would probably have taken beforehand and 6 points I suppose isn't a big lead in hurling. Dub players were throwing the ball to each other without the pretence of a hand pass and never blown up for it. Great to see us matching them, standing up to them.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
Mixed feelings....a defeat at the end would have been absolute heartbreak but overall weren't we the better side? Yeah a draw we would probably have taken beforehand and 6 points I suppose isn't a big lead in hurling. Dub players were throwing the ball to each other without the pretence of a hand pass and never blown up for it. Great to see us matching them, standing up to them.

The "throw" argument has been lost, it's gone. Every team is doing it. The ref will give a token free or two each game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
Mixed feelings....a defeat at the end would have been absolute heartbreak but overall weren't we the better side? Yeah a draw we would probably have taken beforehand and 6 points I suppose isn't a big lead in hurling. Dub players were throwing the ball to each other without the pretence of a hand pass and never blown up for it. Great to see us matching them, standing up to them.

The "throw" argument has been lost, it's gone. Every team is doing it. The ref will give a token free or two each game.

It's impossible to see unless you see it done! Even if we say there's no way he got that ball out of that situation unless the ref actually sees a technical foul he can't call it on a whim!!

So the token call you said is stupid as all ref's will call it if they see it, otherwise why bother call token ones?

On the result, Dublin have been recently a big boggy team for us home and away, if you told me we could at the very worst get a draw I'd have taken it. Great start steady mid way and nip and tuck throughout, Dublin a level above us (just) big mental result today
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 07:08:29 PM
Dublin were like the Harlem Globetrotters! Every pass was a throw
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 10:37:00 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 07:08:29 PM
Dublin were like the Harlem Globetrotters! Every pass was a throw

Watch Limerick tomorrow and see if you can see any difference
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:57:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.

Yeah I would agree with the substitution, couldn't see how it would work
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.


NE went off with a foot injury which has deemed him out for the next few weeks unfortunately
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2023, 02:37:12 PM
I thought he went off injured
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 24, 2023, 03:46:35 PM
Disappointing. We really need our best 17/18 hurlers available at all times
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 24, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
Any news on mckenna injury? Id love to see A O'Brien and R Molloy added to panel for next year. Both more than physical enough for this level and two good hurlers
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 03:56:04 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 24, 2023, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.


NE went off with a foot injury which has deemed him out for the next few weeks unfortunately
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 24, 2023, 03:54:32 PM
Any news on mckenna injury? Id love to see A O'Brien and R Molloy added to panel for next year. Both more than physical enough for this level and two good hurlers

An opportunity for Paul Boyle perhaps ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 24, 2023, 03:59:10 PM
100%. Im just talking strength and depth of the panel overall which is a big difference in top teams and teams around our level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
Mixed feelings....a defeat at the end would have been absolute heartbreak but overall weren't we the better side? Yeah a draw we would probably have taken beforehand and 6 points I suppose isn't a big lead in hurling. Dub players were throwing the ball to each other without the pretence of a hand pass and never blown up for it. Great to see us matching them, standing up to them.

The "throw" argument has been lost, it's gone. Every team is doing it. The ref will give a token free or two each game.

It's impossible to see unless you see it done! Even if we say there's no way he got that ball out of that situation unless the ref actually sees a technical foul he can't call it on a whim!!

So the token call you said is stupid as all ref's will call it if they see it, otherwise why bother call token ones?

I thought the rule stated there must be a 'definite' striking action. Therefore, if the ref can't see that it was a definite handpass, surely he's within his rights to blow a free? The onus should be on the player to make it a clear handpass action, and not on the ref to have to judge every marginal handpass/ throw.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 25, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 22, 2023, 06:07:35 PM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on April 22, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
Mixed feelings....a defeat at the end would have been absolute heartbreak but overall weren't we the better side? Yeah a draw we would probably have taken beforehand and 6 points I suppose isn't a big lead in hurling. Dub players were throwing the ball to each other without the pretence of a hand pass and never blown up for it. Great to see us matching them, standing up to them.

The "throw" argument has been lost, it's gone. Every team is doing it. The ref will give a token free or two each game.

It's impossible to see unless you see it done! Even if we say there's no way he got that ball out of that situation unless the ref actually sees a technical foul he can't call it on a whim!!

So the token call you said is stupid as all ref's will call it if they see it, otherwise why bother call token ones?

On the result, Dublin have been recently a big boggy team for us home and away, if you told me we could at the very worst get a draw I'd have taken it. Great start steady mid way and nip and tuck throughout, Dublin a level above us (just) big mental result today

You need to educate yourself on the rules as they are written.

And the way the rule is written is correct.  To constitute a legal handpass, the ball must be released with a "definite striking action".  So the absence of a definite striking action means that a foul has been committed.

We are not asking the ref to decide if the ball has been thrown or not.

Another case of the GAA writing unnecessary rules, when all they have to do is tell their referees to implement the existing rules properly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 05:37:58 PM
so if the referee is behind the player, and can't see a definite striking action he must blow for an illegal hand pass? When the truth is he's outta position and it's his fault for not being In correct position to see the pass so call a foul.. seems harsh, I'll try that on Sunday ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 25, 2023, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 05:37:58 PM
so if the referee is behind the player, and can't see a definite striking action he must blow for an illegal hand pass? When the truth is he's outta position and it's his fault for not being In correct position to see the pass so call a foul.. seems harsh, I'll try that on Sunday ;D

;D Typical aul slopey shoulder referee response

"I didn't see nahin"

If that's the defence, referees must spend at least 95% of their time out of position

Because in today's game, I'd say that's a fair estimate of the proportion of handpasses that are made without a definite striking action

I call bullshit

If the ref's did their job properly in this regard, there'd be no issue, and no need for another bloody committee
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 25, 2023, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

Steady on man dear  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Problem:
Referees are not calling fouls for illegitimate handpasses

Referee's Solution:
Ban handpassing

IMO the issue is that referees think they must see a definitive throw in order for it to be a foul

Whereas that's not the case at all
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

I assume you let the ones you were unsure of go? That's the nub if it: if you were unsure, there was obviously no 'definite' striking action, and it should have been a foul. I realise, of course, that a whistle-happy ref. ain't going to be too popular, but if the rule was enforced properly players wouldn't so readily chance a throw.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

I assume you let the ones you were unsure of go? That's the nub if it: if you were unsure, there was obviously no 'definite' striking action, and it should have been a foul. I realise, of course, that a whistle-happy ref. ain't going to be too popular, but if the rule was enforced properly players wouldn't so readily chance a throw.

You play at all? If a ref pulled you every time you made a legal hand pass would you be pleased?  Just because the ref isn't in position? Give your head a shake
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

I assume you let the ones you were unsure of go? That's the nub if it: if you were unsure, there was obviously no 'definite' striking action, and it should have been a foul. I realise, of course, that a whistle-happy ref. ain't going to be too popular, but if the rule was enforced properly players wouldn't so readily chance a throw.

You play at all? If a ref pulled you every time you made a legal hand pass would you be pleased?  Just because the ref isn't in position? Give your head a shake

Yes, I do play. And yes - of course I'd be annoyed. I'm annoyed every time I'm blown! However, we've got to the point where the throw-ball has become a bit of a blight on the game, and that's happened because refs are letting 'borderline' cases go when, in fact, the onus is on the player to execute the pass in a clear and definite way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
Then why don't you execute it legally?

To simplify it better, a ref can only blow for a free if he sees it.

But it's a grey area that the GAA authorities need to clear up.

There are some examples of changing it but let's see how that pans out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 25, 2023, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
Then why don't you execute it legally?

To simplify it better, a ref can only blow for a free if he sees it.

But it's a grey area that the GAA authorities need to clear up.

There are some examples of changing it but let's see how that pans out

The GAA have set up a working group to look at it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 26, 2023, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
Then why don't you execute it legally?

To simplify it better, a ref can only blow for a free if he sees it.

But it's a grey area that the GAA authorities need to clear up.

There are some examples of changing it but let's see how that pans out

It's not grey at all.  It's very clear.  The fact that you (as a referee) think it's a grey area tells me that I'm 100% right here.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 26, 2023, 12:06:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:42:13 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on April 25, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
I'm not sure how to best approach it, if he's seen no foul he can't call it, just because (in your opinion) 95% of the hand passes are illegal, if that is the case then just ban it altogether.

Ref'd a game on Sunday possibly 2 that I caught 4 I was unsure of the rest grand.

I assume you let the ones you were unsure of go? That's the nub if it: if you were unsure, there was obviously no 'definite' striking action, and it should have been a foul. I realise, of course, that a whistle-happy ref. ain't going to be too popular, but if the rule was enforced properly players wouldn't so readily chance a throw.

You play at all? If a ref pulled you every time you made a legal hand pass would you be pleased?  Just because the ref isn't in position? Give your head a shake

Let me get this straight

There were a total of 6 suspect handpasses in the game, and you found yourself 'out of position' for 4 of them?

Do you miss 66% of the rest of the suspected fouls?

Or is it just the handpasses?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 12:22:01 AM
Quote from: Franko on April 26, 2023, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 25, 2023, 10:38:11 PM
Then why don't you execute it legally?

To simplify it better, a ref can only blow for a free if he sees it.

But it's a grey area that the GAA authorities need to clear up.

There are some examples of changing it but let's see how that pans out

It's not grey at all.  It's very clear.  The fact that you (as a referee) think it's a grey area tells me that I'm 100% right here.

Whatever. Your opinion won't change how I referee the game though. If I don't see a foul it's play on.

The grey area is the ref should only blow when he sees a foul.

If a Referee doesn't see someone getting whacked in the mouth, but a man stands over him with a bloody hurl, can the ref send him off?

I've seen plenty calls during televised games where the ref blows for a throw and slow mo sees clear hand pass.

Personally I'll go with my own experience, having  played senior right through to my mid 40's, managed a club final at Croke (got hammered though lol) but with regards to rules and playing I'm happy enough with my interpretation, if someone was stopping the game because he wasn't in the right position or sure to see every hand pass, then, blow up legal hand passes I'd be very annoyed at his performance

I'd be happy to invite you on to the refereeing panel and assess your performance though. Players want the game flowing, they don't want a free taking contest.

As for your last post, hurling ball moves at a serious rate, maybe you're not familiar with it, when a ball can be hit 80 yards in a second you ( seem clever enough) think a ref can make that distance ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2023, 08:20:21 AM
Hand pass is a really difficult one but frustrating for people actually watching.

A lot of the hand passes which people complain about are coming out of a tackle or a ruck situation where is nearly impossible for the ref to be at the right angle to be 100% sure either way.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2023, 08:20:21 AM
Hand pass is a really difficult one but frustrating for people actually watching.

A lot of the hand passes which people complain about are coming out of a tackle or a ruck situation where is nearly impossible for the ref to be at the right angle to be 100% sure either way.

An example on Sunday, I'm in the right position I see the hand pass clearly and everyone on the other side of the ruck, either on the line or players are all calling "throw ball"

Those throws in a ruck, its basically one swing of the arm and its a clear non strike action, its easier to see them but if I'm directly behind a player and he 'hand passes' the ball, if I can't see he committed a technical foul I can't just assume he did, how would that go down if you, as a supporter, see those calls in a game?

You do what you can do and call it as you see it, its more so at intercounty level than club in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on April 26, 2023, 08:47:20 AM
There must be something about technique as on Sunday we had 1 player blew up 3 times for throwing and the opposition didn't even call it any of those 3 times.

I will be honest, the first one i wasn't sure about but the second two i could see clearly and there was a definite striking action so i don't believe they should have been frees.

Cost us in the end as we lost by 3 (a result you would have been happy to see MR2!) and the opposition scored from 2 of those frees, which had also broke up attacks that we were on which could have lead to a score.

Strange thing was, he was the only player in the whole game blew up for it and was only a second half sub, so he needs to work on his execution as obviously the ref didn't agree with it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 08:54:20 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 26, 2023, 08:47:20 AM
There must be something about technique as on Sunday we had 1 player blew up 3 times for throwing and the opposition didn't even call it any of those 3 times.

I will be honest, the first one i wasn't sure about but the second two i could see clearly and there was a definite striking action so i don't believe they should have been frees.

Cost us in the end as we lost by 3 (a result you would have been happy to see MR2!) and the opposition scored from 2 of those frees, which had also broke up attacks that we were on which could have lead to a score.

Strange thing was, he was the only player in the whole game blew up for it and was only a second half sub, so he needs to work on his execution as obviously the ref didn't agree with it!

Yeah I heard it was a tight enough game and as you say these things can 'swing' for you or against you but the ref won't get every foul regardless if its a bad hand pass or a tug of the shirt, there are at times 6 or 7 people in those rucks so its not easy to spot things, but sure when you are standing on the sideline or at the far end of the pitch its easier to see these things  ;D

Going forward it seems to be the best position at the ground to officiate the game  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.

He went over on his ankle in front of the Antrim mentors.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 26, 2023, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.

He went over on his ankle in front of the Antrim mentors.

::) ::) ::)

That part wasn't the issue. He was clearly unable to continue...read again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 26, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

This is the problem in my mind

The ref doesn't need to see a throwball - he just needs to see a handpass completed without a DEFINITE striking action

The rules are there to police the handpass, but refs/players/supporters are currently of a mindset that unless it's a definite throw, it's not a foul

The only person that can drive the change is the referees - and they currently have all the tools required to do it

On the point that the ref can't see everything - of course he can't

But don't tell me he can't see 66% of them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on April 26, 2023, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on April 26, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

This is the problem in my mind

The ref doesn't need to see a throwball - he just needs to see a handpass completed without a DEFINITE striking action

The rules are there to police the handpass, but refs/players/supporters are currently of a mindset that unless it's a definite throw, it's not a foul

The only person that can drive the change is the referees - and they currently have all the tools required to do it

On the point that the ref can't see everything - of course he can't

But don't tell me he can't see 66% of them

As a player and a coach I find it hard to believe that you still play. Let's say that the ball in is your defence.... Is struck up to a half forward/corner forward, who pops a handpass off to a runner coming off the shoulder all within the space of 2-5 seconds, and you think the ref will should be up with that play to see the handpass from the perfect angle? And to add to that, you want the ref to blow it if he doesn't see it??? It's 2 or 3 refs you need per game!

As a player my view is this, unless the man overhand throws the ball 20/30 yards over the bar, then get on with the game and make sure you or your team mates do enough to prevent the pass or subsequent score from happening. If it happens and the ref doesn't blow, get up, get on with it and get the next score. Leave the game alone ffs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Franko on April 26, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

This is the problem in my mind

The ref doesn't need to see a throwball - he just needs to see a handpass completed without a DEFINITE striking action

The rules are there to police the handpass, but refs/players/supporters are currently of a mindset that unless it's a definite throw, it's not a foul

The only person that can drive the change is the referees - and they currently have all the tools required to do it

On the point that the ref can't see everything - of course he can't

But don't tell me he can't see 66% of them

Nothing you have said is wrong, a clear striking action.

But I'd rather a game of hurling (that I'm watching) were there will be the odd foul missed be it a tug of shirt or throw ball or the odd over carrying for it to descend into a free taking competition

The games not broke because of this throwing the ball, if this task force come up with something that will help improve it then great, what it won't do is improve the fitness of the referee to be in all positions at all times to see a 'throw ball',

In any given game at senior level I cover between 4 and 4.5 miles that be typical distance for a club game. At intercounty they are generally covering 6 or more miles per game. Give the lines men the ability to call them, they are (at intercounty) mic'd up so not difficult to implement, that be 3 pairs of eyes
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 26, 2023, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on April 26, 2023, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on April 26, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

This is the problem in my mind

The ref doesn't need to see a throwball - he just needs to see a handpass completed without a DEFINITE striking action

The rules are there to police the handpass, but refs/players/supporters are currently of a mindset that unless it's a definite throw, it's not a foul

The only person that can drive the change is the referees - and they currently have all the tools required to do it

On the point that the ref can't see everything - of course he can't

But don't tell me he can't see 66% of them

As a player and a coach I find it hard to believe that you still play. Let's say that the ball in is your defence.... Is struck up to a half forward/corner forward, who pops a handpass off to a runner coming off the shoulder all within the space of 2-5 seconds, and you think the ref will should be up with that play to see the handpass from the perfect angle? And to add to that, you want the ref to blow it if he doesn't see it??? It's 2 or 3 refs you need per game!

As a player my view is this, unless the man overhand throws the ball 20/30 yards over the bar, then get on with the game and make sure you or your team mates do enough to prevent the pass or subsequent score from happening. If it happens and the ref doesn't blow, get up, get on with it and get the next score. Leave the game alone ffs.

If you could direct me to the place where I said any of this, or anything like it, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on April 26, 2023, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Franko on April 26, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on April 26, 2023, 10:59:22 AM
Just to 'throw' in my tupence on the handpass - pardon the pun...

Agree with MR on this and his application - hurling is played at 100mph and no ref in the country will NE able to position themselves perfectly for every play (its impossible) you can't be blowing fouls for throwballs unless the ref sees a throwball.

We also can't be having referees guess and blowing up because they're assuming no striking action takes place. that's a slippery slope i wouldn't want to go down regards ruining the game.

Also dissappointing to see foks want the game referred to the technicality of the rulebook, its the very thing that will again ruin the game.

This is the problem in my mind

The ref doesn't need to see a throwball - he just needs to see a handpass completed without a DEFINITE striking action

The rules are there to police the handpass, but refs/players/supporters are currently of a mindset that unless it's a definite throw, it's not a foul

The only person that can drive the change is the referees - and they currently have all the tools required to do it

On the point that the ref can't see everything - of course he can't

But don't tell me he can't see 66% of them

Nothing you have said is wrong, a clear striking action.

But I'd rather a game of hurling (that I'm watching) were there will be the odd foul missed be it a tug of shirt or throw ball or the odd over carrying for it to descend into a free taking competition

The games not broke because of this throwing the ball, if this task force come up with something that will help improve it then great, what it won't do is improve the fitness of the referee to be in all positions at all times to see a 'throw ball',

In any given game at senior level I cover between 4 and 4.5 miles that be typical distance for a club game. At intercounty they are generally covering 6 or more miles per game. Give the lines men the ability to call them, they are (at intercounty) mic'd up so not difficult to implement, that be 3 pairs of eyes

The current state of things with regard to handpassing in the game is a very mild annoyance, and it's something I'd happily live with in the knowledge that the game is all the faster for it.

The only reason the handpass has gone the way it has, is due to the swarm tackling that is now prevalent in the game - in many cases a player has no option but to almost throw the ball if they want to release it from the tackle

And players are coached to tug and release the arm, preventing a legal handpass, whilst just doing enough to avoid giving away a free themselves

My whole annoyance with this is not that there's a massive problem within the game itself, it's the GAA's approach to it.

If they want to sort it out, the rules are there to do it

But no - the GAA's response is to form another committee - another talking shop

It's the black card debate all over again

If they want it sorted (again, I'm fairly ambivalent on this) then just enforce the rules you already have
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on April 26, 2023, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2023, 08:54:20 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on April 26, 2023, 08:47:20 AM
There must be something about technique as on Sunday we had 1 player blew up 3 times for throwing and the opposition didn't even call it any of those 3 times.

I will be honest, the first one i wasn't sure about but the second two i could see clearly and there was a definite striking action so i don't believe they should have been frees.

Cost us in the end as we lost by 3 (a result you would have been happy to see MR2!) and the opposition scored from 2 of those frees, which had also broke up attacks that we were on which could have lead to a score.

Strange thing was, he was the only player in the whole game blew up for it and was only a second half sub, so he needs to work on his execution as obviously the ref didn't agree with it!

Yeah I heard it was a tight enough game and as you say these things can 'swing' for you or against you but the ref won't get every foul regardless if its a bad hand pass or a tug of the shirt, there are at times 6 or 7 people in those rucks so its not easy to spot things, but sure when you are standing on the sideline or at the far end of the pitch its easier to see these things  ;D

Going forward it seems to be the best position at the ground to officiate the game  ;D

I think my main gripe was two he was blew up for weren't even in a ruck.

He was in clear space and had no reason to throw.

Again, maybe technique needs improved but to me one was definitely not a throw, the other harder to call but definitely no benefit of the doubt given.

The third was in a ruck so the ref was a lot closer than I was so i will give him that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on April 27, 2023, 09:08:28 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 26, 2023, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on April 26, 2023, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:54:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 24, 2023, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2023, 10:39:49 AM
Unfortunate not to take the win at the weekend. The lads gave it absolutely everything.

Some strange tactical elements from our side, but that's the manager's prerogative. Hopefully can take a bit of confidence from this forward into the other games.

In what way NAG1? I give us more than a fighting chance this weekend. I think Wexford are very average

Dublin were probably bang average too and we had them at home.

Found it strange selection of the first substitution to replace NE, just from a positional and tactical POV.

Puck out strategy was another one I couldn't understand.

Look I'm not trying to be negative because the team gave absolutely everything and commitment was there in spades, it's just a few things that I didn't get watching on.

He went over on his ankle in front of the Antrim mentors.

::) ::) ::)

That part wasn't the issue. He was clearly unable to continue...read again.

Just highlighting that he went over on his ankle was the reason he went off.

Re puck outs, I agree 100%.

Constant puck outs down Antrim's left wing in the second half against the breeze where Dublin had copped on to this and a few of their players had drifted to that side therefore outnumbering the Antrim midfielders / half forwards.

One of these puck outs resulted in a turnover where Dublin played the ball down their right, fed the ball into Donal Burke who drilled it into the net.

Antrim's puck out strategy when they go short really puts the fear into me.

Rarely is the ball pucked to the hand, resulting in the recipient having to readjust his stance and losing vital seconds. Remember the Joe McDonagh match v Offaly in Corrigan last year where 2 goals were conceded as a result of poor puck outs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2023, 10:39:36 AM
First match and we have a point. we'll get it tougher in the other games and the big test will be Westmeath, It great that we are discussing that drawing with a team that the last few years has been in a 'tier' above us, we could be playing in a lower end competition but now we are looking forward to competing with teams in Leinster.

Was a dreadful day weather wise for both teams and it ebbed and flowed in different directions but when it mattered we held on and got something other than a glorious defeat. Lets be half full rather than half empty!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 28, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
Any word on the team for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2023, 12:13:33 PM
Maskey in seems to be the only change
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 28, 2023, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2023, 12:13:33 PM
Maskey in seems to be the only change

There could be something in this game for Antrim if they get a good start and rattle Wexford. The home crowd will be on them if things look to be going poorly.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 06:33:36 PM
Wexford have put up a big score here so far
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 07:41:29 PM
Final score Wexford 1-30 Antrim 1-26. Ten points down at a time too. Don't know much about how the game panned out but that was down in Wexford and when Wexford were well up it could have been a hammering but wasn't so definitely, despite defeat, some positives to take.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 07:41:29 PM
Final score Wexford 1-30 Antrim 1-26. Ten points down at a time too. Don't know much about how the game panned out but that was down in Wexford and when Wexford were well up it could have been a hammering but wasn't so definitely, despite defeat, some positives to take.

I'm not sure at this stage of the teams development there are any positives in defeat & when the opposition scores 1-30, this is a game they would have been targeting & rightly so
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2023, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 29, 2023, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2023, 07:41:29 PM
Final score Wexford 1-30 Antrim 1-26. Ten points down at a time too. Don't know much about how the game panned out but that was down in Wexford and when Wexford were well up it could have been a hammering but wasn't so definitely, despite defeat, some positives to take.

I'm not sure at this stage of the teams development there are any positives in defeat & when the opposition scores 1-30, this is a game they would have been targeting & rightly so

It was a 4 point handicap bet, that's how it panned out. Wexford have given us some trimmings in championship in the past and we have improved but this is possibly another chance not taken... we need a great start to put teams on the back foot, Wexford had a great start to the half and while we pegged them back they finished strong. I'm the second half Antrim were well on top, just couldn't bring that lead back and get in front.

It's always been about staying in the senior championship. We ain't going to win the thing but gaining and keeping promotion allows us to develop further
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: themac_23 on May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on May 03, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
I heard bottom relegated

Winner of each division plays 2nd bottom in a playoff

This is to correct the no relationship during covid
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 03, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least

It is right, I'm presuming it was agreed by the clubs in Antrim.

One team relegated from Div1, two from Div2 and 1 from Div3.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2023, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 03, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least

It is right, I'm presuming it was agreed by the clubs in Antrim.

One team relegated from Div1, two from Div2 and 1 from Div3.

Not sure this would be correct, open to challenge though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 04, 2023, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 04, 2023, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 03, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least

It is right, I'm presuming it was agreed by the clubs in Antrim.

One team relegated from Div1, two from Div2 and 1 from Div3.

Not sure this would be correct, open to challenge though.

Each club has CB delegates, no?

This would have needed voting through at a CB meeting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2023, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 04, 2023, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 04, 2023, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 03, 2023, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least

It is right, I'm presuming it was agreed by the clubs in Antrim.

One team relegated from Div1, two from Div2 and 1 from Div3.

Not sure this would be correct, open to challenge though.

Each club has CB delegates, no?

This would have needed voting through at a CB meeting.

JC Im not 100% on this so as I said open to correction, but the reaction of some clubs and the surprise therein of what I've heard makes me think that it wasn't through CC.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 04, 2023, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC

My understanding as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 04, 2023, 02:53:45 PM
Just Div 1 or across all 4 Divisions ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC

I remember this being talked about a few months back
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 04, 2023, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC

I remember this being talked about a few months back

How can you change the rules once the season has started ? I know it's Antrim and all but still
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 05, 2023, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 04, 2023, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC

I remember this being talked about a few months back

How can you change the rules once the season has started ? I know it's Antrim and all but still

Promotion/Relegation in the hurling leagues have changed mid stream manys a time in Antrim and for as long as I can remember, so not a new thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 10:30:23 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2023, 08:58:24 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 04, 2023, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: Stillwater2 on May 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
Clubs were made aware last week via email there would not be promotion. The first they made aware of it, despite what was discussed and agreed at CC

I remember this being talked about a few months back

How can you change the rules once the season has started ? I know it's Antrim and all but still

Promotion/Relegation in the hurling leagues have changed mid stream manys a time in Antrim and for as long as I can remember, so not a new thing.

Yes has happened many times both as a player and manager I've seen it happen and not for the good in my personal experiences  :-X
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 05, 2023, 11:59:21 AM
The Cats are in town on Sunday. Personally I am looking forward to seeing TJ in championship action up close in what could well be his last season of inter county. Antrim will be up against it alright but the national league match was competitive even if Antrim never looked like winning. Hopefully its another entertaining game of high quality hurling and who knows we might give them a scare or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
So Antrim hurling leagues -

Div 1 - one team relegated.

Div 2 - No promotion & bottom two relegated to Div 3

Div 3 - No promotion & bottom team relegated to Div 4

Div 4 - No promotion
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 05, 2023, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
So Antrim hurling leagues -

Div 1 - one team relegated.

Div 2 - No promotion & bottom two relegated to Div 3

Div 3 - No promotion & bottom team relegated to Div 4

Div 4 - No promotion

Yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 05, 2023, 01:53:03 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2023, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
So Antrim hurling leagues -

Div 1 - one team relegated.

Div 2 - No promotion & bottom two relegated to Div 3

Div 3 - No promotion & bottom team relegated to Div 4

Div 4 - No promotion

Yes.

Wouldnt it be class if we had a full time Secretary who could actually spend time making sure this kind of thing doesn't happen.....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 05, 2023, 01:53:03 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 05, 2023, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
So Antrim hurling leagues -

Div 1 - one team relegated.

Div 2 - No promotion & bottom two relegated to Div 3

Div 3 - No promotion & bottom team relegated to Div 4

Div 4 - No promotion

Yes.

Wouldnt it be class if we had a full time Secretary who could actually spend time making sure this kind of thing doesn't happen.....

It's ridiculous
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 05, 2023, 02:39:48 PM
Not defending anyone here but surely the clubs vote these things in? No or has that changed also
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 02:57:02 PM
What's the reasoning for no promotion ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 05, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
Are there not rules and laws etc in place to say the clubs have to vote these things in place?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 05, 2023, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
So Antrim hurling leagues -

Div 1 - one team relegated.

Div 2 - No promotion & bottom two relegated to Div 3

Div 3 - No promotion & bottom team relegated to Div 4

Div 4 - No promotion

So we end up with 10 teams in Div 1, 2 + 3 and 7/8/9 in Div 4 depending on what happens with Larne and Henry Joys?. its not a bad structure ( I always prefered 8 team divisions, 14 games, 7 home 7 away). however it should have been agreed and voted on before the start of the league and there should be play offs at least for the teams winning division 2,3 and 4
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 05, 2023, 10:29:42 PM
Seaan Elliott injured ? Will miss his pace and ball carrying ability. Niall McKenna back though so a good boost
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 07, 2023, 05:20:33 PM
Today probably went as expected, we didn't really challenge at all. It's going to come down to the Westmeath game. McManus looked in bad enough shape going off
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2023, 06:41:26 PM
3-20 is some shooting, yes albeit that Kilkenny had the game won at half time

We didn't win much primary ball or second ball, their running off the ball and support play was excellent

Speed of play at a different level also, cross field balls into space

It's always been about Westmeath and securing another year at this level but with the injuries mounting it will be hard
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on May 07, 2023, 11:21:14 PM
I wonder can we knock the "Fortress Corrigan" on the head now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 09:27:28 AM
Anyone else getting fed up with the fawning over teams/ players by our own social media?

We are in the same league as these teams on merit, would it be too much to ask to start acting like it top to bottom?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on May 09, 2023, 10:49:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 09:27:28 AM
Anyone else getting fed up with the fawning over teams/ players by our own social media?

We are in the same league as these teams on merit, would it be too much to ask to start acting like it top to bottom?


I agree, maybe talk about our own players a bit more.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 09, 2023, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 09, 2023, 10:49:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 09:27:28 AM
Anyone else getting fed up with the fawning over teams/ players by our own social media?

We are in the same league as these teams on merit, would it be too much to ask to start acting like it top to bottom?


I agree, maybe talk about our own players a bit more.

100%
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
Been a bug bear of mine for a few years now.

Yes these visiting teams are heroes to our young ones no harm in that.

But lets promote our own and try and drive it internally, instead of this falling over ourselves to suck up to all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on May 09, 2023, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
Been a bug bear of mine for a few years now.

Yes these visiting teams are heroes to our young ones no harm in that.

But lets promote our own and try and drive it internally, instead of this falling over ourselves to suck up to all concerned.

That's part of it too. The likes of TJ and Jason Forde etc. playing in Corrigan Park. That in itself promotes hurling and I understand where you're coming from.   That's just the way lads will go to these lads after the game.

A lot of lads getting stuff signed by Neil Mc Manus and Ryan Elliot etc. That's good to see also.

Great that they can play in Corrigan on big days.  I wouldn't be too harsh.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 10, 2023, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 09, 2023, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
Been a bug bear of mine for a few years now.

Yes these visiting teams are heroes to our young ones no harm in that.

But lets promote our own and try and drive it internally, instead of this falling over ourselves to suck up to all concerned.

That's part of it too. The likes of TJ and Jason Forde etc. playing in Corrigan Park. That in itself promotes hurling and I understand where you're coming from.   That's just the way lads will go to these lads after the game.

A lot of lads getting stuff signed by Neil Mc Manus and Ryan Elliot etc. That's good to see also.

Great that they can play in Corrigan on big days.  I wouldn't be too harsh.

I'm not being too harsh on the young lads/ lassies after the game, totally understandable.

My issue is that it is a whole system thing within Antrim hurling, we seem to feel this kind of sycophantic appreciation that these great teams come up to play us.

It's a mindset issue IMO, I've said it before on here we should be making it at difficult as possible for these teams. We are in the same league and championship as these teams for a reason, we are there to compete.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 11, 2023, 09:43:57 AM
Is it just me or are we seeing more walkovers/teams not fielding than normal ? Creggan and Ahoghill didn't take place last night in Div2
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2023, 10:11:26 AM
I see county players, some anyway,  were playing last night. That's actually good to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: themac_23 on May 11, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 11, 2023, 09:43:57 AM
Is it just me or are we seeing more walkovers/teams not fielding than normal ? Creggan and Ahoghill didn't take place last night in Div2

When the county clearly dont care about the leagues then can see why clubs might have the same attitude.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 11, 2023, 12:39:22 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 11, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 11, 2023, 09:43:57 AM
Is it just me or are we seeing more walkovers/teams not fielding than normal ? Creggan and Ahoghill didn't take place last night in Div2

When the county clearly dont care about the leagues then can see why clubs might have the same attitude.

Yes and I think that's what it is, they are glorified challenge games now, unless you are threatened with relegation
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 11, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
Someone informed me Creggan have failed to field two games in a row
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 11, 2023, 03:51:36 PM
At the minute its not looking pretty for them in Division 2. And what has happened to Gort na Mona. Back to back relegations pending!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on May 11, 2023, 04:00:18 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 11, 2023, 03:49:30 PM
Someone informed me Creggan have failed to field two games in a row

3 games in total they haven't fielded, even against us their nearest rivals which you would think they would be up for a game in.

Not sure what the story is.

Football not going to great at the minute either although that won't be a concern as they will lift it before championship.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on May 11, 2023, 07:14:42 PM
OTB on the Antrim hurlers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNR1Anuz-N4&t=4330s
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on May 11, 2023, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 10, 2023, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 09, 2023, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 09, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
Been a bug bear of mine for a few years now.

Yes these visiting teams are heroes to our young ones no harm in that.

But lets promote our own and try and drive it internally, instead of this falling over ourselves to suck up to all concerned.

That's part of it too. The likes of TJ and Jason Forde etc. playing in Corrigan Park. That in itself promotes hurling and I understand where you're coming from.   That's just the way lads will go to these lads after the game.

A lot of lads getting stuff signed by Neil Mc Manus and Ryan Elliot etc. That's good to see also.

Great that they can play in Corrigan on big days.  I wouldn't be too harsh.

I'm not being too harsh on the young lads/ lassies after the game, totally understandable.

My issue is that it is a whole system thing within Antrim hurling, we seem to feel this kind of sycophantic appreciation that these great teams come up to play us.

It's a mindset issue IMO, I've said it before on here we should be making it at difficult as possible for these teams. We are in the same league and championship as these teams for a reason, we are there to compete.

No, I understand your point and it's a fair comment.

Just good to see KK and Dublin etc. in Corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on May 12, 2023, 10:06:05 AM
I think its the balance of appreciating top stars coming to Corrigan along with not pure fanning over them.

Our lads are on the pitch competing with these stars at the same level, would like to see more coverage of our players
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 12, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: saffman on May 12, 2023, 10:06:05 AM
I think its the balance of appreciating top stars coming to Corrigan along with not pure fanning over them.

Our lads are on the pitch competing with these stars at the same level, would like to see more coverage of our players

Any see or hear the podcast with Conal Keaney recently and their attitude to the bigger teams esp Galway coming to play them?
Interesting in relation to recent discussions on this theme.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 17, 2023, 11:19:01 AM
Galway away this weekend. Tough fixture to say the least, not expecting much but a decent performance would be nice to set us up for Westmeath the following week. Is anyone heading down? Galway is a great city for a weekend break.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 17, 2023, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 17, 2023, 11:19:01 AM
Galway away this weekend. Tough fixture to say the least, not expecting much but a decent performance would be nice to set us up for Westmeath the following week. Is anyone heading down? Galway is a great city for a weekend break.

Great City for a break for sure, if you don't have to take a serious hiding in the game. I am worried about this one, squad starting to look thin on the ground away from home on what is supposed to be a great weekend weather wise, could get messy.

Hope I'm wrong but don't see another outcome at the moment.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: clootfromthe21 on May 21, 2023, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2023, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 17, 2023, 11:19:01 AM
Galway away this weekend. Tough fixture to say the least, not expecting much but a decent performance would be nice to set us up for Westmeath the following week. Is anyone heading down? Galway is a great city for a weekend break.

Great City for a break for sure, if you don't have to take a serious hiding in the game. I am worried about this one, squad starting to look thin on the ground away from home on what is supposed to be a great weekend weather wise, could get messy.

Hope I'm wrong but don't see another outcome at the moment.

Westmeath beat Wexford, having been 14 points down 26 minutes into the game.

I presume it makes no difference to next weeks game i.e. if we beat them, we stay up, but all the momentum will be with Westmeath  . . .

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: glens73 on May 21, 2023, 04:54:36 PM
I think if Antrim beat WM and KK beat Wex then Wex are relegated as h2h takes precedence over score difference
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on May 21, 2023, 06:29:27 PM
Quote from: glens73 on May 21, 2023, 04:54:36 PM
I think if Antrim beat WM and KK beat Wex then Wex are relegated as h2h takes precedence over score difference

Unreal.

16 pts up against Westmeath. In all respect they should be seeing that out.  Egan mightn't last mush longer but surely players musch take responsibilty in that.

Geeat result for Joe Fortune especially at the half-time team talk.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2023, 07:45:40 AM
Wm will be on a high now. This is a tough game and one they are probably favourites for. We need men back as a load of injuries.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on May 22, 2023, 01:14:36 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 22, 2023, 07:45:40 AM
Wm will be on a high now. This is a tough game and one they are probably favourites for. We need men back as a load of injuries.
This was always going to be the crunch game and Westmeath certainly have some momentum behind them. It would be good if us and westmeath stayed up and Wexford were relegated, it would really annoy some hurling traditionalists (snobs)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on May 22, 2023, 02:51:22 PM
Who are we missing for the Westmeath game?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 22, 2023, 02:55:29 PM
Not sure but McManus, elliots, Campbell missing possibly more. Doubt all of them could be back but hopefully.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 22, 2023, 03:13:40 PM
mcmanus didnt look like a boy who'd be hurling in a few weeks when he hobbled off v kk
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 22, 2023, 03:16:42 PM
hopefully campbell is fit. going by highlights we looked very soft down the middle of our defence v galway. Plenty to be positive ourselves heading into this game. Gave away a lot of soft scores v kk and galway who will punish anything but we put up respectable scorelines in both games. toss of a coin however v westmeath. will be hard for them to get going after the buzz of last week id imagine, fancy us by 3 or 4
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 23, 2023, 02:04:18 PM
I'd be worried about this WM game now.

Injuries stacking up against us and now the momentum they have from their last result is the perfect storm against us.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on May 23, 2023, 04:28:37 PM
Im thinking WM win last week sets us up better

Injuries are never a good thing and the more players back the better but IF and a big IF we thought WM were below us and come the last day we turn up, beat them and stay in the LmcC then last week totally dispels any thoughts of that

The players/management and everyone in Antrim now know exactly what we are facing at the weekend, with that attitude i am then confident that the players we have on the pitch are better than WM and will get the result needed
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: saffman on May 23, 2023, 04:28:37 PM
Im thinking WM win last week sets us up better

Injuries are never a good thing and the more players back the better but IF and a big IF we thought WM were below us and come the last day we turn up, beat them and stay in the LmcC then last week totally dispels any thoughts of that

The players/management and everyone in Antrim now know exactly what we are facing at the weekend, with that attitude i am then confident that the players we have on the pitch are better than WM and will get the result needed

Need a few big hoors in the fullback line to deal with the high ball a lot better than how Wexford managed it..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 05:36:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 04:51:33 PM
Quote from: saffman on May 23, 2023, 04:28:37 PM
Im thinking WM win last week sets us up better

Injuries are never a good thing and the more players back the better but IF and a big IF we thought WM were below us and come the last day we turn up, beat them and stay in the LmcC then last week totally dispels any thoughts of that

The players/management and everyone in Antrim now know exactly what we are facing at the weekend, with that attitude i am then confident that the players we have on the pitch are better than WM and will get the result needed

Need a few big hoors in the fullback line to deal with the high ball a lot better than how Wexford managed it..

Turn that around and throw Niall Mc Kenna on the edge of the square.

WM find it hard to deal with that. A great out ball with a few sharp forwards buzzing around him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on May 28, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
All credit to Gleason, his back room team and the entire squad.  A fantastic result under pressure and away from home. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2023, 03:40:20 PM
Brilliant result.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on May 28, 2023, 04:40:21 PM
Absolutely brilliant. Well done lads
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on May 28, 2023, 05:40:17 PM
Has McManus announced his retirement or intention to retire? Tweet from Antrim would suggest they think that's him done. Not a bad way to go out if that is him finished.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 29, 2023, 09:37:05 AM
I can see him going again. Hes in fantastic shape and still delivering

Fantastic result
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 29, 2023, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 29, 2023, 09:37:05 AM
I can see him going again. Hes in fantastic shape and still delivering

Fantastic result

I think you might be right. I think after a good rest and recuperation that Neil will be around for Darren Gleeson's final year. Hoggie and TJ still producing the goods at a similar age. There was no mention of him retiring from county hurling until the Antrim Twitter feed mentioned it and I definitely wouldnt trust whoever operates the Twitter feed.

The strong breeze blowing down the field towards the Dunnes Stores end was definitely a factor. Westmeath started their comeback when Ryan Elliott was black carded in the 30th minute of the first half to lead by two at halftime. Antrim held out until halftime and when Elliott returned Antrim were back to 15, rattled off the next 3 scores in a row to take a lead they wouldnt lose. Used the breeze with some impressive scores from out the field.

Some of the catching from both sides was a joy to watch and Antrim must have went back to basics at some stage during their training as the blocking was top drawer.

Was one of those games where every player played well in their position (not unlike the Cushendall v Sarsfields match All Ireland semi final in 2016) . Jonty was buzzing around the forward line as was Niall McKenna, Coby, James Mc but I think Neil McManus was outstanding.

Large support in Mullingar for Antrim which was great to see.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Two Hands FFS on May 29, 2023, 10:14:18 AM
I think he'll go and it is the right time to go for him personally. Picking up the odd injury and you don't want to stay on too long. He's had an brilliant career for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 29, 2023, 10:30:30 AM
Probably one of our best, if not our best, ever. I think the Antrim twitter site put it on and he has said nothing about it though.

That was a great win yesterday. You consider that Elliot was off for ten minutes too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on May 29, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The report in The Saffron Gael says there had been rumours this was it for him. I think he's the type who would want to go out on a high as well by leaving Antrim in the best position possible.

Based on his performances, he absolutely could go again but I suppose we don't know at what cost that's coming at. He's been with Antrim since he was very young and has played longer than all the lads he played with in the early days. Regardless of what he does, he's left a fantastic legacy on the pitch but he's also done an awful lot off it too with regards promotion of the game.

Maybe fancies one last big push for another championship with Cushendall before he hangs them up completely.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 29, 2023, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on May 29, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
The report in The Saffron Gael says there had been rumours this was it for him. I think he's the type who would want to go out on a high as well by leaving Antrim in the best position possible.

Based on his performances, he absolutely could go again but I suppose we don't know at what cost that's coming at. He's been with Antrim since he was very young and has played longer than all the lads he played with in the early days. Regardless of what he does, he's left a fantastic legacy on the pitch but he's also done an awful lot off it too with regards promotion of the game.

Maybe fancies one last big push for another championship with Cushendall before he hangs them up completely.

If he retires from the county he will play on with Cushendall for a few more years.

A good few lads from Sambo and Woody's minor team from back in the day are still plying their hurling trade with their clubs.

I think he will stay on for another year at least. He'll get a few weeks rest, probably a holiday and back on the horse with Cushendall for this year's championship.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2023, 02:49:59 PM
MR question on rules and this is possibly as applicable to football...

Ryan Elliot's black card on Sunday - so he took the man down and the man scored anyway so no foul given but Elliot still given black card. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2023, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2023, 02:49:59 PM
MR question on rules and this is possibly as applicable to football...

Ryan Elliot's black card on Sunday - so he took the man down and the man scored anyway so no foul given but Elliot still given black card. Is that correct?

In intercounty games it seems to be the thing to do, never seen the incident but by the law, if there is a cynical foul stopping someone from scoring then its a black card and penalty, just because he scored doesn't change the initial 'foul' so getting the sin bin is there to hopefully stop that stuff
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 30, 2023, 03:27:26 PM
Ah ok cheers. So basically if you're going to bring someone down for a black card offense make sure it counts  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 31, 2023, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 30, 2023, 03:27:26 PM
Ah ok cheers. So basically if you're going to bring someone down for a black card offense make sure it counts  ;D

Hang on like a rodeo rider for 5 seconds it seems  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 31, 2023, 09:29:11 AM
Div1 league splits this weekend, the Dall have Portaferry visiting tonight, a must win game for both I'd have thought if either want in the top 6.

We're surprisingly in the mix for a top 6 place, a win from either Rossa at home tonight or away to the Town on Sunday should do it, but injuries are mounting again with our lads...

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 31, 2023, 07:52:36 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 31, 2023, 09:29:11 AM
Div1 league splits this weekend, the Dall have Portaferry visiting tonight, a must win game for both I'd have thought if either want in the top 6.

We're surprisingly in the mix for a top 6 place, a win from either Rossa at home tonight or away to the Town on Sunday should do it, but injuries are mounting again with our lads...

Portaferry to cushendall on a Wednesday evening
That's nearly as many hours as a days work from start to finish!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 31, 2023, 10:20:43 PM
Big win for ballygalget and portaferry draw with cushendall. Big win for Carey against ballycastle. The ballycastle twitter thread just seems to read another free for Carey and another and another  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 31, 2023, 10:20:43 PM
Big win for ballygalget and portaferry draw with cushendall. Big win for Carey against ballycastle. The ballycastle twitter thread just seems to read another free for Carey and another and another  ;D

Poor look for the club. Reads as sour grapes. They're a disaster.

Loughgiel hammered Ballycran in the league's top two battle. They didn't get out of 2nd gear. Ballycran were tactically naive.

Loughgiel starting to look like a much improved side from the past few seasons. Lots of pace and direct route for the most part. Guilty of overplaying it on occasion at the minute.

Some great young talent in the squad, certainly enough to have Dunloy looking over their shoulder.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 07:55:55 PM
Loughgiel are Cargin of years ago, every game is important (as it should be) but leagues should never be a gauge to judge the reality

During the league, for me and what I've seen, Loughgiel are above the rest by a good margin. I don't think Dunloy will worry too much until it maters, neither will Cushendall, who'll be happy to know they are viewed as being also rans...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 08:04:56 PM
There's a lot of competition for places in loughgiel I would say too which makes the league a bigger push. Dunloy I notice had only one county player against st johns who looked to have more or less a full quota. Dunloy still way ahead of the pack.

Tbh I thought loughgiel should have beat cushendall last year. I think soon enough they will be second team in the county but if they can push on to be the best is the question. Dunloy very dominant and very young too so I am not sure.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
Think it will be a few years before Dunloy are caught. Sadly, for the county, there is only 1 club capable of doing so. Not a good situation. Having said that, great work going on with hurling in many NA juvenile teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
Think it will be a few years before Dunloy are caught. Sadly, for the county, there is only 1 club capable of doing so. Not a good situation. Having said that, great work going on with hurling in many NA juvenile teams.

That's true to a point but my young nephew is on a team that's working hard and 'competing' but yes the NA teams are pretty good
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 04, 2023, 08:59:05 PM
Are all the county lads now back in with the clubs now?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 09:06:00 PM
All back, yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 09:13:21 PM
No reason not too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on June 04, 2023, 09:37:23 PM
County season is done but it'll be interesting to see if many go out to the States this summer. Quite a few went out last year.

On the Championship, I fully believe when Dunloy's run ends it's Loughgiel coming behind them and think there will be some serious battles between the two over the next few seasons.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Dunloy players on the go constantly with club final etc. Could probably do with a break.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on June 04, 2023, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
Think it will be a few years before Dunloy are caught. Sadly, for the county, there is only 1 club capable of doing so. Not a good situation. Having said that, great work going on with hurling in many NA juvenile teams.

That's true to a point but my young nephew is on a team that's working hard and 'competing' but yes the NA teams are pretty good

We were invited to play naomh padraig in armoy a few weeks back at u10.5, best team ive seen at that age group by a considerable margin.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 05, 2023, 10:31:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Dunloy players on the go constantly with club final etc. Could probably do with a break.

couple of fresh faces to add to the squad this year to keep things ticking
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
We ended up holding onto a top 6 place even after getting beat yesterday in Ballycastle which is a marked improvement for us considering we've been in the relegation mix for a few years now.

I'll be better preparation for us going into the championship even if we'll be sick of the sight of our neighbours by the end of the year.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
We ended up holding onto a top 6 place even after getting beat yesterday in Ballycastle which is a marked improvement for us considering we've been in the relegation mix for a few years now.

I'll be better preparation for us going into the championship even if we'll be sick of the sight of our neighbours by the end of the year.

Saving on diesel  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on June 05, 2023, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: Upandover on June 04, 2023, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
Think it will be a few years before Dunloy are caught. Sadly, for the county, there is only 1 club capable of doing so. Not a good situation. Having said that, great work going on with hurling in many NA juvenile teams.

That's true to a point but my young nephew is on a team that's working hard and 'competing' but yes the NA teams are pretty good

We were invited to play naomh padraig in armoy a few weeks back at u10.5, best team ive seen at that age group by a considerable margin.

Is it U10.5 or U11.5?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2023, 12:15:42 PM
I would imagine he is referring to U11.5. They are on a different planet to the rest.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2023, 12:15:42 PM
I would imagine he is referring to U11.5. They are on a different planet to the rest.

Yeah they won a tournament in Na Magha at the weekend, think it's just a very strong group as not sure NP as strong at other age groups. Fair play to them regardless
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on June 05, 2023, 12:36:10 PM
Quote from: Upandover on June 04, 2023, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 04, 2023, 08:43:11 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 04, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
Think it will be a few years before Dunloy are caught. Sadly, for the county, there is only 1 club capable of doing so. Not a good situation. Having said that, great work going on with hurling in many NA juvenile teams.

That's true to a point but my young nephew is on a team that's working hard and 'competing' but yes the NA teams are pretty good

We were invited to play naomh padraig in armoy a few weeks back at u10.5, best team ive seen at that age group by a considerable margin.
St Olcans Armoy won the Cumman Na Bunscoil North Antrim competition about two weeks ago. Some achievement for a school with 50-60 pupils. Hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 01:14:15 PM
Hopefully they'll find one or two more Clutes from the area!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
We ended up holding onto a top 6 place even after getting beat yesterday in Ballycastle which is a marked improvement for us considering we've been in the relegation mix for a few years now.

I'll be better preparation for us going into the championship even if we'll be sick of the sight of our neighbours by the end of the year.

Saving on diesel  ;)

Edit, Ports are in the bottom section even though on a three way tie they'd a better scoring difference to the other two, Mcquillans got the 6th spot on the worst score difference of them, Ports and Ruairi O'gs.

Must be other factors at play.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 05, 2023, 02:29:24 PM
Ports suffered from county commitments. Watched two of their games and they were badly depleted due to players on county duty.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 02:56:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
We ended up holding onto a top 6 place even after getting beat yesterday in Ballycastle which is a marked improvement for us considering we've been in the relegation mix for a few years now.

I'll be better preparation for us going into the championship even if we'll be sick of the sight of our neighbours by the end of the year.

Saving on diesel  ;)

Edit, Ports are in the bottom section even though on a three way tie they'd a better scoring difference to the other two, Mcquillans got the 6th spot on the worst score difference of them, Ports and Ruairi O'gs.

Must be other factors at play.

It's not H2H anyway cos Cushendall had it over Ballycastle
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Is it not score difference against the teams you'e level with as opposed to overall score difference? I thought I read something like that in the football thread. Seemed odd but it was what was said.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 05, 2023, 03:36:09 PM
Correct Tommygunn - Ballycastle get top half
Portaferry & Cushendall in the bottom group
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 03:38:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Is it not score difference against the teams you'e level with as opposed to overall score difference? I thought I read something like that in the football thread. Seemed odd but it was what was said.

If there's games conceded then yes, it's score differences of the games amongst the teams involved. Other than that when three teams are on equal points it's score difference normally over the entire league.

Not sure there were any games conceded, maybe the one the other night where Ballycran and St Enda's didn't finish due to an injured player on the field of play and having to wait for an ambulance, but that game has no bearing on any of the three teams tied on 9 points.

Antrim are well within their rights to have that as a county byelaw but it's different to what's in the Official Guide.

"   Where teams finish on equal points for qualification for the concluding stages (of a championship organised partly on league basis), or in relation to league promotion/relegation, finishing positions shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
(i)   Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meetings of the two teams in the previous games in the Competition.
(ii)   Scoring Difference (Subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For);
(iii)   Highest Total Score For;
(iv)   A Play-Off.
"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on June 06, 2023, 06:56:01 AM
League Regulations:

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal points, the following criteria, outlined in Rule 6.21 (4) (c) T.O. 2021
shall be used:
a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the meetings between the teams shall be the deciding factor, except for in a one round league where the deciding factors will be from b to d below.
b. The highest scoring differences. That is points scored minus points conceded in the games played between the teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be decided as per b above

Exceptions:
Regulations a., b., c. shall not apply to u15 and lower agegroups
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2023, 09:43:43 AM
Wonder why Dunloy are conceding the Feis Cup semi-final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 10:09:24 AM
Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started

Never seen anything like that. Scoring difference before actual results.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2023, 10:11:24 AM
3 way tie though - how do you do that on actual results? Surely you can't.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 06, 2023, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2023, 10:11:24 AM
3 way tie though - how do you do that on actual results? Surely you can't.

It becomes a mini league as outlined above
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 06, 2023, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started

Yeah,
   I misunderstood the rules, the only games that matter are the "Head to Head" games, so Ballycastle go through.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 06, 2023, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

It's Antrim baby
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2023, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

Actually fair point  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 06, 2023, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 06, 2023, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

It's Antrim baby

It is, but on closer inspection of The Official Guide 2023 edition section 6.21 points are the first criteria rather than scores etc etc;

Except where provided for otherwise in these
Rules, in County Bye-Law or in Competition Regulation,
when Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
(i) The higher number of League Points obtained in the 'Head-to-Head' games defined as the games in which the teams involved in the tie have played each other.
(ii) The higher Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For) in the 'Head-to-Head' games.

The County bye-law can and has over ride this in this instance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah not the most straightforward and i personally would've thought points between the head to head teams better than score difference - however this was communicated to the clubs prior to the league commencing and if I'm correct was recommended by week 3/4 of fixtures

Seeing on some social media that portaferry believe this is a ploy to stop 3 Ards teams getting top half - certainly clutching at straws
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 06, 2023, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah not the most straightforward and i personally would've thought points between the head to head teams better than score difference - however this was communicated to the clubs prior to the league commencing and if I'm correct was recommended by week 3/4 of fixtures

Seeing on some social media that portaferry believe this is a ploy to stop 3 Ards teams getting top half - certainly clutching at straws

Where are you seeing that?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 04:12:59 PM
these split leagues are a shambles. maybe see the back of them when the leagues are restructured? Cushendall are nowhere near a bottom half side lets face it. Likewise ballycastle and st endas would probably benefit more from being in bottom half

also how is there a restructure in football and hurling leagues..with promotion in football and and nothing in hurling. only in antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2023, 04:44:05 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 06, 2023, 09:43:43 AM
Wonder why Dunloy are conceding the Feis Cup semi-final?

Anyone?  Think this got lost among the Div 1 chat.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 04:12:59 PM
these split leagues are a shambles. maybe see the back of them when the leagues are restructured? Cushendall are nowhere near a bottom half side lets face it. Likewise ballycastle and st endas would probably benefit more from being in bottom half

also how is there a restructure in football and hurling leagues..with promotion in football and and nothing in hurling. only in antrim

On St Endas from what I've seen this year they are very much a top six team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 05:14:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 04:12:59 PM
these split leagues are a shambles. maybe see the back of them when the leagues are restructured? Cushendall are nowhere near a bottom half side lets face it. Likewise ballycastle and st endas would probably benefit more from being in bottom half

also how is there a restructure in football and hurling leagues..with promotion in football and and nothing in hurling. only in antrim

On St Endas from what I've seen this year they are very much a top six team

i stand corrected. top 4 antrim side after lgiel cushendall and dunloy?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2023, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 05:14:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 06, 2023, 04:12:59 PM
these split leagues are a shambles. maybe see the back of them when the leagues are restructured? Cushendall are nowhere near a bottom half side lets face it. Likewise ballycastle and st endas would probably benefit more from being in bottom half

also how is there a restructure in football and hurling leagues..with promotion in football and and nothing in hurling. only in antrim

On St Endas from what I've seen this year they are very much a top six team

i stand corrected. top 4 antrim side after lgiel cushendall and dunloy?

On what I've seen of the teams this year in the league, they did take a beating by Loughgiel but so have most teams, I'm only basing though in league so far
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 06, 2023, 05:24:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 06, 2023, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah not the most straightforward and i personally would've thought points between the head to head teams better than score difference - however this was communicated to the clubs prior to the league commencing and if I'm correct was recommended by week 3/4 of fixtures

Seeing on some social media that portaferry believe this is a ploy to stop 3 Ards teams getting top half - certainly clutching at straws

Where are you seeing that?

Twitter - one of 2 players posting/sharing about it

Agree the league positions have raised a few eyebrows, wouldn't have thought st endas, ballycastle or ballygalget wouldve been top half

Similarly cushendall & portaferry were top 2 last year and find themselves bottom half

Availability of county players certainly plays its part but end if the day league needs played and you don't get points for namesake therefore i think its refreshing and will strengthen the league going forward if we do see a league competitive with every team capable of wins on their day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 07, 2023, 09:30:09 AM
different polocies with different county managers maybe facilitates stronger panels for down teams too? joe mcdonagh played on a saturday helps too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 07, 2023, 09:37:00 AM
Down being out earlier probably helped the ards clubs.

Tbh you'd be less worried for most in division one. If it causes you to get relegated or not promoted that'd be the main concern.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 13, 2023, 10:15:15 AM
Ardoyne winning div 4 a bit of a shock. Report on SG look to have big numbers. Fair play. A club on the rise
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 13, 2023, 10:37:05 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 13, 2023, 10:15:15 AM
Ardoyne winning div 4 a bit of a shock. Report on SG look to have big numbers. Fair play. A club on the rise

Who would have been the expected winners there ? It seems like a bit of a balls, two teams pulled out so loss of walkovers & obviously no promotion
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 13, 2023, 11:18:33 AM
On paper possibly Davitts? St Teresas amalgamation too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on June 13, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
What's the numbers re relegation this year? I know there's no promotion. Mainly asking about how many go down from division 2
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 13, 2023, 12:00:04 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 13, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
What's the numbers re relegation this year? I know there's no promotion. Mainly asking about how many go down from division 2

Two from Div 2
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on June 13, 2023, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 13, 2023, 10:15:15 AM
Ardoyne winning div 4 a bit of a shock. Report on SG look to have big numbers. Fair play. A club on the rise
I think they got a good few lads in from up the West when Ollie Bellew was manager last year- not sure who's taking them this year.

Always had a few handy enough hurlers in the past but were balanced out by a good few lads who wouldn't have had much respect for the rules :D

At the same time they're providing a great facility and identity for a lot of the youth of North Belfast where social issues have been lacking.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 13, 2023, 05:25:06 PM
Don't believe any of the ardoyne team would be from West Belfast

From what i heard a few years back when they were getting things up and running it was very much an open to all skills level invite for anyone in the community. Also if not mistaken i believe they identified a number of players from the catchment area who wouldve previously played for st endas that no longer hurled and offered an environment to simply pick up a hurl go to training and see what happens.

Fair play to them!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Last Man on June 13, 2023, 08:00:37 PM
Not from but 3 of them played senior for Rossa at one stage or another.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on June 13, 2023, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: saffman on June 13, 2023, 05:25:06 PM
Don't believe any of the ardoyne team would be from West Belfast

From what i heard a few years back when they were getting things up and running it was very much an open to all skills level invite for anyone in the community. Also if not mistaken i believe they identified a number of players from the catchment area who wouldve previously played for st endas that no longer hurled and offered an environment to simply pick up a hurl go to training and see what happens.

Fair play to them!

I think where the west belfast thing comes from is when they folded the hurling few years ago some of their players went to other clubs but most came back I know 1 went to rossa when the hurling stopped
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on June 13, 2023, 11:29:51 PM
Yeah fair, think 2 of them played for Rossa at some stage

Think they both originate club/location from Ardoyne area

Still great to see for an area like North Belfast. Certainly should be more Garlic games & numbers so can only be a good thing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 08:15:26 AM
North Belfast is getting stronger I think - the Pearses club too are improving and Ardoyne football wise for where they were at have improved a lot. I see a lot of things appearing on social media now pushing for them to get council pitches etc which they seem to get very little of. Also St Endas now has a large membership and division 1 in both. (They are more or less north belfast...).

Hopefully longer term it'll be good for the county.

(Not to forget the wolfe tones club too)

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on June 14, 2023, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 08:15:26 AM
North Belfast is getting stronger I think - the Pearses club too are improving and Ardoyne football wise for where they were at have improved a lot. I see a lot of things appearing on social media now pushing for them to get council pitches etc which they seem to get very little of. Also St Endas now has a large membership and division 1 in both. (They are more or less north belfast...).

Hopefully longer term it'll be good for the county.

(Not to forget the wolfe tones club too)

seen that as well, think the tweets I seen were from the Wolfe tones chairman, then seen Pearses ones comment too. Madness how tough it is to get GAA council facilities for them hopefully they can get some good news soon
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 14, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

Intermediate groups are probably a bit lopsided too though. Cushendun, Carey & St Galls in the same group.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on June 14, 2023, 11:19:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 14, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

Intermediate groups are probably a bit lopsided too though. Cushendun, Carey & St Galls in the same group.

Just on that group. Glenarm are in there too as last year's Junior champs. How do they decide what teams go back down to Junior for 2024?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 14, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

Intermediate groups are probably a bit lopsided too though. Cushendun, Carey & St Galls in the same group.

Yeah it's a fair point. Glenariffe touched lucky. Sarsfields at full strength will probably be the 2nd team to come out of that group. Carey or Cushendun will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on June 15, 2023, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

The split season is to blame for this apathy toward the league and the lack of proper games.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 15, 2023, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2023, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

The split season is to blame for this apathy toward the league and the lack of proper games.

The split season and specifically in Antrim this year, no promotion
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: DearyMe on June 15, 2023, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 14, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

Intermediate groups are probably a bit lopsided too though. Cushendun, Carey & St Galls in the same group.

Yeah it's a fair point. Glenariffe touched lucky. Sarsfields at full strength will probably be the 2nd team to come out of that group. Carey or Cushendun will be hard to beat.


Fair
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2023, 10:11:07 AM
Cushendun look to have improved a lot. There's younger ones like Kilgores and McQuillans look handy enough on top of a few older ones. I think some played underage for cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 10:48:36 AM
Cushendalls loss is Cushenduns gain! A good few wouldve came up with Naomh Padhraig. Older players juvenile with Dall but a few senior transfers recently too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on June 15, 2023, 11:05:42 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 15, 2023, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 14, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 14, 2023, 09:47:56 PM
Interesting result between Dunloy loughgiel. Loughgiel have been beating all round them and the Dunloy beat them by 15. Wonder do they have the county guys back.

Clearly decided it's time to start hurling. They've only been messing about until now. Great apathy towards the leagues this year in general. Not great for our game if the season is going to boil down to a handful of competitive games. Even the senior championship groups will largely be uncompetitive.

Again, intermediate is where the gruelling competition lies.

The split season is to blame for this apathy toward the league and the lack of proper games.

There's been apathy towards the league in Antrim for as long as I can remember.

Is there a bit of arse boxing with Loughgeil and Dunloy, with Loughgeil sending out a fairly weak team last night on the back of Dunloy pulling out of the Feis semi-final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 02:17:20 PM
Creggan and Bredagh relegated? Glenarm survive in division 2 is a great step for them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
Are St Johns also down?? Along with Carey
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 15, 2023, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 02:18:59 PM
Are St Johns also down?? Along with Carey

One down in Div 1
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 15, 2023, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 02:17:20 PM
Creggan and Bredagh relegated? Glenarm survive in division 2 is a great step for them

St Paul's have been a lot more competitive than many thought as well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on June 16, 2023, 12:00:53 AM
Gortnamona two relegations in two years looking extremely likely. Division 4 for 2024.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 16, 2023, 09:25:28 AM
Still not confirmed but their last few games look tough
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2023, 09:49:00 AM
It's a pity to see that. Their footballers are dropping off a bit too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on June 16, 2023, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 15, 2023, 10:48:36 AM
Cushendalls loss is Cushenduns gain! A good few wouldve came up with Naomh Padhraig. Older players juvenile with Dall but a few senior transfers recently too
Naomh Padhraig got to two minor finals in three years about 6 years ago, mainly backboned by Cushendun hurlers. Plus they have had a few playing with both Cushendall and Glenariffe in recent years
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 17, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
After watching the Junior Feis Final in Dunloy tonight, you wonder how some referees get the games they get. That was an embarrassment. The crowd were dismayed from start to finish at his unashamed bias. How the Armoy players kept their cool I have no idea. Ruined a potentially good game between two well matched teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2023, 09:00:41 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 17, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
After watching the Junior Feis Final in Dunloy tonight, you wonder how some referees get the games they get. That was an embarrassment. The crowd were dismayed from start to finish at his unashamed bias. How the Armoy players kept their cool I have no idea. Ruined a potentially good game between two well matched teams.

Do north Antrim men only get to do those games?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 17, 2023, 09:05:35 PM
Not sure. Maybe a good idea to have the city men officiating.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: theboss11 on June 17, 2023, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on June 17, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
After watching the Junior Feis Final in Dunloy tonight, you wonder how some referees get the games they get. That was an embarrassment. The crowd were dismayed from start to finish at his unashamed bias. How the Armoy players kept their cool I have no idea. Ruined a potentially good game between two well matched teams.

Watched this game, couldn't believe the refereeing display. I think I counted 6 Cloughmills free's in the first 5 minutes of the second half which is crazy considering the ball would only have been in play for less than half that time. Not much hurling actually played which was a shame. Waiting for the match report to see how many was actually scored from play, my guess would be 3 out of 18 points.
One of the problems with the rural areas is that the ref could be from a mile outside either teams village and probably drink in the same pub, one thing is for sure is the referee tonight deserved to do the trophy lift and get the first drink out of the cup.
 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on June 17, 2023, 10:47:51 PM
He gave the first free from his own throw in to restart the 2nd half. Both sets of players were bemused. The players from both teams just wanted to hurl. There were two bad tackles the whole game. Late tackle by Armoy wing back - yellow card. Stick broke over the Armoy corner back's leg  -  no free even given let alone card.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 08:46:31 AM
McManus retired. What a career. Up there with our best ever if not our best.

Big loss but hopefully we have enough coming through to back it up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 08:46:31 AM
McManus retired. What a career. Up there with our best ever if not our best.

Big loss but hopefully we have enough coming through to back it up.

One of the best for sure, any position, teak tough with some of the finest touches you'll see in the game, I remember a game at Sarsfields in the championship and the lay off for a goal was something else, I'm still not sure it was legal  ;D but brilliant all the same

Plenty of miles on the clock for Neil at County level, hopefully a few more seasons with his club to try and get another championship medal.

The rigors of playing for the county for so long take its toll, its a young man's game!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 09:13:50 AM
Too many injuries this year probably helped make up his mind. Hopefully a few years in him at club yet. That era of player were very good - McManus, Graffin, McAuley, Shorty etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on June 21, 2023, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 09:13:50 AM
Too many injuries this year probably helped make up his mind. Hopefully a few years in him at club yet. That era of player were very good - McManus, Graffin, McAuley, Shorty etc.

And a youngster now too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 10:39:19 AM
If you listen to the podcast he says this year has been a good year injury wise. Although past 4 or 5 years they have mounted up. Niblock asking a 35 year old with a young child over and over about why he didnt go again is annoying. Man has gave his whole life to antrim hurling. The boost he'll bring to Cushendall at the start of pre season next year will be unreal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: toby47 on June 21, 2023, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 10:39:19 AM
If you listen to the podcast he says this year has been a good year injury wise. Although past 4 or 5 years they have mounted up. Niblock asking a 35 year old with a young child over and over about why he didnt go again is annoying. Man has gave his whole life to antrim hurling. The boost he'll bring to Cushendall at the start of pre season next year will be unreal

Jeez Tommy really wouldn't let it go lol. He had him tortured with the same question/point for the first half hour.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 12:25:26 PM
It definitely felt like he was injured a right bit this year but then there have been one or two other years where he missed a good lot of the season. (The first kerry win in the joe mcdonagh springs to mind).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 12:48:01 PM
1 league game and 1 championship game missed this year i think he quoted. Which isnt too bad. Maybe played v KK? Strapped up and came off injured too. Missed galway in champ and Tipp in league i think he said
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
Muscle injuries happen. No matter what age. Hes avoided any major hip/knee injures (to my knowledge) which are common so all in all a healthy enough career and a good few years left with the club. I'd be surprised if he didnt hurl until hes 40
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 01:02:56 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 12:50:43 PM
Muscle injuries happen. No matter what age. Hes avoided any major hip/knee injures (to my knowledge) which are common so all in all a healthy enough career and a good few years left with the club. I'd be surprised if he didnt hurl until hes 40

At Senior level 40 will be no bother for him, Karl must have played some part at senior well into his 40's? and there is always the reserves for a bitta craic and no pressure
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......

still maybe games available at div 2 reserve yet? or has that ship sailed?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......

still maybe games available at div 2 reserve yet? or has that ship sailed?

I'm n the WhatsApp group, just in case  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 22, 2023, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......

still maybe games available at div 2 reserve yet? or has that ship sailed?

I'm n the WhatsApp group, just in case  ;D

That's only for nosiness purposes I'd imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on June 22, 2023, 09:42:43 AM
Not available. Reffing Latharna Og v Henry Joys this sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2023, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 22, 2023, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......

still maybe games available at div 2 reserve yet? or has that ship sailed?

I'm n the WhatsApp group, just in case  ;D

That's only for nosiness purposes I'd imagine

😂😂😂

Shots fired
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2023, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2023, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 22, 2023, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 11:12:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on June 21, 2023, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 21, 2023, 02:13:54 PM
I don't think McKeegan lasted quite as long as that - 37 or 38 i think. I think he was still lining out at "z squad" even last year.

Kids these days!!! I was playing up to 48 lol!! When I say playing......

still maybe games available at div 2 reserve yet? or has that ship sailed?

I'm n the WhatsApp group, just in case  ;D

That's only for nosiness purposes I'd imagine

😂😂😂

Shots fired

I would love nothing else to get involved again, I did think about doing nets, but plenty of competition for that at the minute lol!

The halfpace hurlers are giving the 'older' guys a good run out in Belfast every Thursday, they also have plenty of socials too and tournaments

Nothing beats playing, I'd encourage everyone to play until the hip or knee gives out!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JimStynes on June 24, 2023, 06:49:23 PM
Emotional read about the legendary John McKillop in the Irish News
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2023/06/23/news/main_man_john_mckillop_always_part_of_cushendall_s_dna-3378700/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1tGPUTmdgnIRQY4MjA6LDeUs7O3maTtNgDHy32H3QbTl_CeYPO21cnDYU (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2023/06/23/news/main_man_john_mckillop_always_part_of_cushendall_s_dna-3378700/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1tGPUTmdgnIRQY4MjA6LDeUs7O3maTtNgDHy32H3QbTl_CeYPO21cnDYU)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ned on June 25, 2023, 09:02:31 AM
Thanks for posting, Jim.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2023, 10:18:11 AM
Johns a great character. Championship games he's the man handing over the teamsheets, in the thick of it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 18, 2023, 12:17:53 AM
Just over two weeks until the start of Championship. Cannot wait to finally see genuinely competitive hurling. Good spread of games on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday of the opening weekend.

Predictions:

Junior - Cloughmills

Intermediate - Cushendun/Carey/Glenariffe/St Galls/Sarsfields/Randalstown .....cant decide but the order of my list is loosely reflective of my opinion.

Senior - Dunloy

Can't see too many surprises, certainly not in senior or junior.

Bring it on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on July 18, 2023, 12:39:46 AM
Is there an official line on how relegation from the Championship works out? The likes of Ahoghill and Glenarm are in new tiers so is it a case of straight back down if you lose or how is that actually determined?

Intermediate champions always seem to go straight back down the following year but I note Glenravel are still in Intermediate after winning Junior in 2021?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on July 18, 2023, 12:58:38 AM
If you win your grade you must play up at the next level the year after. Glenravel, in division 3 likely had the option to enter Junior or Intermediate. I could be wrong. Glenarm are current Junior champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on July 18, 2023, 01:26:38 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 18, 2023, 12:17:53 AM
Just over two weeks until the start of Championship. Cannot wait to finally see genuinely competitive hurling. Good spread of games on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday of the opening weekend.

Predictions:

Junior - Cloughmills

Intermediate - Cushendun/Carey/Glenariffe/St Galls/Sarsfields/Randalstown .....cant decide but the order of my list is loosely reflective of my opinion.

Senior - Dunloy

Can't see too many surprises, certainly not in senior or junior.

Bring it on.

Junior
Cloughmills to beat Armoy in final

Intermediate
Cushendun to beat Carey Faughs in final

Senior
Dunloy to beat Loughgiel in final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on July 18, 2023, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on July 18, 2023, 12:58:38 AM
If you win your grade you must play up at the next level the year after. Glenravel, in division 3 likely had the option to enter Junior or Intermediate. I could be wrong. Glenarm are current Junior champions.

Yeah Glenarm won Junior in 2022 after losing to Glenravel in the 2021 final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on July 29, 2023, 12:22:11 AM
Just looking at the fixtures on the county website. Randalstown, Glenarm and Cushendun are all listed as having matches on Wed 30th August and Fri 1st September. 48 hours between Championship matches? Is that definitely right?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Stillwater2 on July 29, 2023, 09:04:12 AM
That's correct...2 Championship games in 48 hrs. I know clubs have requested a change but no luck.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on July 30, 2023, 05:58:03 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 24, 2023, 06:49:23 PM
Emotional read about the legendary John McKillop in the Irish News
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2023/06/23/news/main_man_john_mckillop_always_part_of_cushendall_s_dna-3378700/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1tGPUTmdgnIRQY4MjA6LDeUs7O3maTtNgDHy32H3QbTl_CeYPO21cnDYU (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2023/06/23/news/main_man_john_mckillop_always_part_of_cushendall_s_dna-3378700/?param=ds12rif76F&fbclid=IwAR1tGPUTmdgnIRQY4MjA6LDeUs7O3maTtNgDHy32H3QbTl_CeYPO21cnDYU)

Terrible news that this evening that John has passed away.

May he rest in peace
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2023, 06:09:03 PM
Ach  :(

RIP wee John.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: theskull1 on July 30, 2023, 06:19:45 PM
RIP wee John. He'll get some send off
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on July 30, 2023, 06:52:27 PM
Sad news. My daughter was at the Camán Camp in Cushendall last week and actually got a photo taken at his mural outside the Lurig afterwards. Legendary figure and played a beautiful part in Gaelic Games.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 12:33:27 PM
heavy amount of fixtures on saturday compared to sunday. whats the reasoning. and can we start the predictions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 12:46:05 PM
SHC
ST JOHNS V ROSSA DRAW
CUSHENDALL V BALLYCASTLE CUSHENDALL BY 10
AHOGHILL V DUNLOY DUNLOY BY 20
ST ENDAS V LOUGHGIEL LOUGHGIEL BY 10

IHC
CAREY V STGALLS CAREY BY 6
GLENARM V RANDALSTOWN RANDALSTOWN BY 3
GLENARIFFE V CREGGAN GLENARIFFE BY 4
GLENRAVEL V ST PAULS ST PAULS BY 6

JHC
LAMH DHEARG V RASHARKIN RASHARKIN BY 1
DAVITTS V ARMOY ARMOY BY 5
ST BRIGIDS V BALLYMENA BALLYMENA BY 7
GORT NA MONA V CLOUGHMILLS CLOUGHMILLS BY 3

JBHC
BELFAST SAINTS V LOCH MOR DRAW
LOCHBEG V ARDOYNE ARDOYNE BY 10+
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 01, 2023, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 12:46:05 PM
SHC
ST JOHNS V ROSSA  Rossa by 3
CUSHENDALL V BALLYCASTLE CUSHENDALL BY 10 (agreed)
AHOGHILL V DUNLOY DUNLOY BY 20 ( may only be 15 depends how much either team is bothered )
ST ENDAS V LOUGHGIEL LOUGHGIEL BY 10 (again agreed )

IHC
CAREY V STGALLS CAREY BY 3
GLENARM V RANDALSTOWN Glenarm by 2
GLENARIFFE V CREGGAN GLENARIFFE BY 8
GLENRAVEL V ST PAULS ST PAULS BY 4

JHC
LAMH DHEARG V RASHARKIN Lamh dearg by 2
DAVITTS V ARMOY ARMOY BY 3
ST BRIGIDS V BALLYMENA BALLYMENA BY 5
GORT NA MONA V CLOUGHMILLS CLOUGHMILLS BY 13

JBHC
BELFAST SAINTS V LOCH MOR Belfast saints by 3
LOCHBEG V ARDOYNE ARDOYNE BY 6
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 01, 2023, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 01, 2023, 12:46:05 PM
SHC
ST JOHNS V ROSSA  Rossa by 3
CUSHENDALL V BALLYCASTLE CUSHENDALL BY 10 (agreed)
AHOGHILL V DUNLOY DUNLOY BY 20 ( may only be 15 depends how much either team is bothered )
ST ENDAS V LOUGHGIEL LOUGHGIEL BY 10 (again agreed )

IHC
CAREY V STGALLS CAREY BY 3
GLENARM V RANDALSTOWN Glenarm by 2
GLENARIFFE V CREGGAN GLENARIFFE BY 8
GLENRAVEL V ST PAULS ST PAULS BY 4

JHC
LAMH DHEARG V RASHARKIN Lamh dearg by 2
DAVITTS V ARMOY ARMOY BY 3
ST BRIGIDS V BALLYMENA BALLYMENA BY 5
GORT NA MONA V CLOUGHMILLS CLOUGHMILLS BY 13

JBHC
BELFAST SAINTS V LOCH MOR Belfast saints by 3
LOCHBEG V ARDOYNE ARDOYNE BY 6


i believe GNM have a few men back and at home could make it tricky of cloughmills

a few games could go either way but all in all this stage of championship is boring. i think we need to go back to straight knockout
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 01, 2023, 10:54:05 PM
I've started my hurling team profiles on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Anyone interested in doing one of them can send me a message. Players, coaches, supporters all welcome and will remain anonymous.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 05, 2023, 11:42:53 PM
Anyone at any games this weekend?

Took in Glenarm and Randalstown this evening. TNN worth their win unfortunately. They played well and have a few quality players that made the difference at that level. Glenarm have been handed one hell of a draw for their first year up. Hopefully they do whatever is required to stay at intermediate. There's some good young lads coming through over the next few years so hopefully stay around that level and then start to push on once the next generation start filtering through.

Not many shocks really but one that surprised me a little was Lamh Dhearg beating Rasharkin in the Junior. I had a wee notion Rasharkin might go one better than last year but obviously that makes it more difficult.

Carey drawing with St Galls was an interesting one too. That group looks tight so that could mean anything by the end of it all. Point dropped or could be the point that makes the difference.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2023, 07:50:44 AM
Rossa beating St John's an interesting one too though if it's three to go through it'll not make much difference I imagine . It's usually 1st straight through and 2nd plays 3rd in the other group? That will probably put them out earlier.

Yeah rasharkin ld looked like the main shock one though like you say st galls probably did a bit better tha expected.

Loughgiel st endas is on live today. Not sure on time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2023, 03:56:42 PM
Creggan beating glenariffe a shock and glenravel beating st pauls probably unexpected too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 06, 2023, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 06, 2023, 03:56:42 PM
Creggan beating glenariffe a shock and glenravel beating st pauls probably unexpected too.

It's not the league Creggan that's for sure

Has anyone seen the stroke from the Loughgiel player doing the rounds ? As dirty and cowardly as you will see
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 06, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
Clutching at straws here.

One handed and with force.


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 06, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 06, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
Clutching at straws here.

One handed and with force.


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?

The one handed is the giveaway, no intention of playing the ball

Did he get a red card ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 06, 2023, 10:33:20 PM
Is it online somewhere or just floating about the WhatsApp groups? Haven't saw anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 06, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
All the weekend has shown, over the various divisions, is that Dunloy remain hot favourites to win their championship. Above and beyond any other team in the county.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on August 07, 2023, 08:51:29 AM
Swing wasn't anywhere in the direction of the ball.

Player wasn't looking at the ball.

Deliberate & easiest red the ref will give all year.

Trying to give some benefit of the doubt... Player has seen red mist and intends to clear the sky and leave abit on the naomh eanna player, red mist means he's not judging anything correctly and the stroke ends up in a pure strike of the player and nothing else.

Either way its an awful dirty stroke and as a county player would expect better
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2023, 08:58:57 AM
Who was the player?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 07, 2023, 09:59:22 AM
R McMullan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on August 07, 2023, 10:45:11 AM
Atrocious slap, should be a 6 month suspension
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 06, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 06, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
Clutching at straws here.

One handed and with force.


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?

The one handed is the giveaway, no intention of playing the ball

Did he get a red card ?

It's not a foul to pull one handed on a ball, not having seen the incident you're talking about though!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on August 07, 2023, 11:27:15 AM
big shocks in intermediate, what lads for creggan where playing that dont normally play? and a huge upset with Glenravel winning too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 07, 2023, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: saffron123 on August 07, 2023, 10:45:11 AM
Atrocious slap, should be a 6 month suspension

At least.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on August 07, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
Now that SW clubs are to the fore in football, the plan is to start our assault on NA hurling....lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 12:21:21 PM
Ive seen the video. Wild pull, made worse that hes actually pulling towards his own goal. Hes seen red. Probably 3 game ban, championship ruined anyway as how could a manager trust him.

St Endas seem to be building, is the top field shorter?

The only other proper game was St Johns Rossa. The gap is massive between between some of our senior clubs. Dunloy Ahoghill is a waste of time for all concernded unfortunatly

Great win for glenravel and backs up their decision to remain intermediate after a few good performances last year with little reward
Creggan beating Glenariffe probably isnt that big of a shock, they were always going to be stronger than league and with Conor McCann back im sure a massive lift for everyone that has hurled all year

Very good result for St Galls away. Intermediate is wide open

Junior as expected really. Davitts put up a fight, GNM are building again without the result, could gather themselves up for knock out. St Brigids out of their depth and was always going to be a toss of a coin between LD and Rasharkin

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: keep her low this half on August 07, 2023, 12:32:35 PM
Creggan and Glenariffe must have been spicy, ended up 13 a side according to the Saffron Gael. Anyone at it? Three sent off in the first half one in the second.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on August 07, 2023, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 06, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 06, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
Clutching at straws here.

One handed and with force.


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 06, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
I'd maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest extremely miss timed and reckless?

The one handed is the giveaway, no intention of playing the ball

Did he get a red card ?

It's not a foul to pull one handed on a ball, not having seen the incident you're talking about though!


Agreed one handed isn't a foul however once you see the video you'll understand. Wasn't near the ball, wasn't near the flight path. 4/5yards off the player who played the ball. Straight slap to the head. It's bad.

The player has had a moment of madness, its a dirty stroke and if we're talking rugby and looking for mitigating circumstances I don't see any.

Luckily naomh wanna player wasnt seriously hurt. Mcmullan is young hopefully it's a lesson he learns from, takes his punishment and that's it buried.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

He's in good company in fairness, the amount of times I've heard lads shouting for fouls for one handed pulls is unreal and whilst it can look a lot worse and reckless, get the ball clean you're good in my eyes as well as the rulebook.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on August 07, 2023, 03:59:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

He's in good company in fairness, the amount of times I've heard lads shouting for fouls for one handed pulls is unreal and whilst it can look a lot worse and reckless, get the ball clean you're good in my eyes as well as the rulebook.

This fella got the St Endas player head clean
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 07, 2023, 03:59:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 07, 2023, 03:25:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

He's in good company in fairness, the amount of times I've heard lads shouting for fouls for one handed pulls is unreal and whilst it can look a lot worse and reckless, get the ball clean you're good in my eyes as well as the rulebook.

This fella got the St Endas player head clean



So I believe and got a deserved red card, but the fact that he pulled one handed is immaterial, he was nowhere near the ball either with one or two hands on the hurl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

my understanding is the same as yours. you have to play the ball (or at least make it look like it) lol! regardless of how many hands you have on the hurl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 07, 2023, 10:07:28 PM
Of course the one handed bit alone does not automatically mean it was a foul, but it did mean on this occasion that he was out of control, reckless  and dangerous.

Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

my understanding is the same as yours. you have to play the ball (or at least make it look like it) lol! regardless of how many hands you have on the hurl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 10:28:33 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 07, 2023, 10:07:28 PM
Of course the one handed bit alone does not automatically mean it was a foul, but it did mean on this occasion that he was out of control, reckless  and dangerous.

Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

my understanding is the same as yours. you have to play the ball (or at least make it look like it) lol! regardless of how many hands you have on the hurl.

And dealt with... striking is a one match ban, people calling for 6 months ban don't know the how they are handed out!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on August 08, 2023, 08:03:01 AM
MR2 agree people calling 6 months are maybe exagerrating abit..

However regards the rules is there any scope for a referee to distinguish types of striking in their report?

On this occasion i personally feel 1 match is too lenient (2-3 is what I'd judge appropriate) I also understand we don't have the capacity to judge each incident and trial them separately hence why we standardise and have a referee report and set punishments.

Real question is - is dangerous & on this occasion possibly intentional striking round the head treated the same as say shafting someone when it comes to suspension?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 08:08:34 AM
Thems the guidelines in the rule book for us to write the match reports, striking with hurl, hand, foot.

Additional suspension comes from whether the persons have been sent off regularly in that season I think

It's always a CCC decision, we reported it, they deal with it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 08, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
obviously its the rules, but seems strange that that is a one match ban, same as 2 yellows.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2023, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 08, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
obviously its the rules, but seems strange that that is a one match ban, same as 2 yellows.

Two yellows ain't a one match ban, only if they have received disciplinary actions in that season would it result in a ban. (I think)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2023, 09:44:55 AM
Yeah, your first 2 yellows you get no ban but it's any subsequent 2 yellows you would get a ban for would be my understanding of it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 08, 2023, 09:59:50 AM
pulling a lads faceguard getting the same punishement as a wild pull around the head doesnt really make sense. id say the bigger punnishment will be trust from the manager
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 08, 2023, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 10:28:33 PM
Quote from: breakingball on August 07, 2023, 10:07:28 PM
Of course the one handed bit alone does not automatically mean it was a foul, but it did mean on this occasion that he was out of control, reckless  and dangerous.

Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2023, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 07, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
Im struggling to understand the "one handed pull isnt a foul" comments

If I pull the 'ball' in the air it's not a foul, if I connect with a player and not the ball it's a foul, whether I've two hands on it or not.

If a player stretches for a ball along the ground with one hand and pulls on it, it's not a foul, if connects with a player first it's a foul.

What's your understanding of the one handed pull?

my understanding is the same as yours. you have to play the ball (or at least make it look like it) lol! regardless of how many hands you have on the hurl.

And dealt with... striking is a one match ban, people calling for 6 months ban don't know the how they are handed out!

There's Cat III striking with minimal force and that's a one match ban then there's Cat IV striking with hurley, either with force or causing injury and it's a two match ban.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 08, 2023, 10:18:47 AM
How do you see the rest of that group playing out if assuming Rian is missing? Cushendall to come out on top, followed by Loughgiel and then St Endas for me. Likely to leave quarter finals being Loughgiel v St Johns and St Endas v Rossa to go through and meet Dunloy & Cushendall. Or is it an open draw at the quarter final stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 08, 2023, 10:43:25 AM
You are correct and this won't be too far off


Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 08, 2023, 10:18:47 AM
How do you see the rest of that group playing out if assuming Rian is missing? Cushendall to come out on top, followed by Loughgiel and then St Endas for me. Likely to leave quarter finals being Loughgiel v St Johns and St Endas v Rossa to go through and meet Dunloy & Cushendall. Or is it an open draw at the quarter final stage?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on August 08, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
Still see very little between cushendall & loughgiel and very much how it plays on the day.

Think Rossa will get 2nd in their group and if Naomh Eanna do beat ballycastle for 3rd that will be an interesting quarter final.

Similarly St Johns V either cushendall or loughgiel isnt a forgone conclusion

Championship shaping up nicely with alot of competitive contests.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 12:14:49 PM
Can anyone shed any light as to why we have 7 championship fixtures this friday night, 6 on saturday and ONE on sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2023, 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 12:14:49 PM
Can anyone shed any light as to why we have 7 championship fixtures this friday night, 6 on saturday and ONE on sunday?

I know as a player I'd rather have a Fri or Sat night game over a Sunday. We used to have them all on the one day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on August 14, 2023, 02:05:18 PM
Most of them are pretty much meaningless (Senior anyway) at this stage anyway, so when they are played is kind of irrelevant.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?

no why be smart in your reply? in previous years i remember games at 1 3 5 and 7pm on saturdays. and possibly 2/3 different times on sundays
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?

no why be smart in your reply? in previous years i remember games at 1 3 5 and 7pm on saturdays. and possibly 2/3 different times on sundays

I'm not being smart. There are 8 games on Sunday, 6 games Sat and 9 games on Friday night, 23 games spread over 3 days. On Sat the 2 senior games are at different times, 5pm and 7pm, up the country, allowing people to watch both should they wish...

I don't think there is a fixture set up that pleases everyone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?

no why be smart in your reply? in previous years i remember games at 1 3 5 and 7pm on saturdays. and possibly 2/3 different times on sundays

I'm not being smart. There are 8 games on Sunday, 6 games Sat and 9 games on Friday night, 23 games spread over 3 days. On Sat the 2 senior games are at different times, 5pm and 7pm, up the country, allowing people to watch both should they wish...

I don't think there is a fixture set up that pleases everyone

Im talking adult championship and youre counting u17 league. There are at least 2 refs out on Sundays u17 league that are able to ref champ(fitness test) so the refs arent the problem

also im not sure how youre going to get from st endas 5pm game to loughgiel for a 7pm throw in
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?

no why be smart in your reply? in previous years i remember games at 1 3 5 and 7pm on saturdays. and possibly 2/3 different times on sundays

I'm not being smart. There are 8 games on Sunday, 6 games Sat and 9 games on Friday night, 23 games spread over 3 days. On Sat the 2 senior games are at different times, 5pm and 7pm, up the country, allowing people to watch both should they wish...

I don't think there is a fixture set up that pleases everyone

Im talking adult championship and youre counting u17 league. There are at least 2 refs out on Sundays u17 league that are able to ref champ(fitness test) so the refs arent the problem

also im not sure how youre going to get from st endas 5pm game to loughgiel for a 7pm throw in

That was just changed in fairness today, when you were complaining that wasn't the case, like I said there are 23 games, if you are only interested in senior you can still see 3 games. You can't please everyone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 11:49:49 AM
Tbh im not bothered about spectators, they can comfortably make it home, dinner and out. Or seeing senior only games. I enjoy watching a junior as much as senior. Its the players, i feel theres a bit more championship feel lost on a friday night
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.

Saturday probably best, Friday ok for teachers and the like sitting on their hole all day. If you are just off a building site it's not ideal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.

Saturday probably best, Friday ok for teachers and the like sitting on their hole all day. If you are just off a building site it's not ideal

Back in the day, building sites closed early enough, to collect the wages at the bar lol!!

Timings will not suit everyone, these lads nowadays are not going to miss the match because of work. but yeah, come the weekend I'd preferred it when it was Friday nights, very rare in my day did the games at senior change from Wed or Sunday's
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.

Saturday probably best, Friday ok for teachers and the like sitting on their hole all day. If you are just off a building site it's not ideal

Back in the day, building sites closed early enough, to collect the wages at the bar lol!!

Timings will not suit everyone, these lads nowadays are not going to miss the match because of work. but yeah, come the weekend I'd preferred it when it was Friday nights, very rare in my day did the games at senior change from Wed or Sunday's

The amount of lads, especially tradesmen on sites, who take a half-day on Fridays is unreal.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 15, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.

Saturday probably best, Friday ok for teachers and the like sitting on their hole all day. If you are just off a building site it's not ideal

Back in the day, building sites closed early enough, to collect the wages at the bar lol!!

Timings will not suit everyone, these lads nowadays are not going to miss the match because of work. but yeah, come the weekend I'd preferred it when it was Friday nights, very rare in my day did the games at senior change from Wed or Sunday's

The amount of lads, especially tradesmen on sites, who take a half-day on Fridays is unreal.

Not saying it doesn't happen, when I was at the tools, it was always half day Fridays, or at the very latest, in one company 3pm.

Again a lot of lads/students and so on all work weekends, its hard to keep everyone happy.

By having them all on the one day, Sunday, most people won't have the opportunity to go to all the games or some of them, double headers not the norm for group games which (bar one) will be home venues
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 15, 2023, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 15, 2023, 12:24:43 PM
I could be wrong but I'd say players would probably be happy playing on Friday evening and then have the rest of the weekend free. Generally what I've heard from players over the years is the majority don't like Sunday matches.

i would tend to agree re league ( play myself )
you dont want every sunday tied all year, come championship i think thats different. Small sacrifice to make for 4 or 5 weekends a year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 17, 2023, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2023, 08:58:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 14, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
Its the players working and travelling to be at a pitch for 6.30 at the latest. Obviously this happens with league but champ is different. Games are tight for 7.30 now too light wise. A dull wet friday and itll be fairly dark by the end

So have them all on a Sunday at the same time?

Fridays games now moved forward for light issues....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on August 17, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
Friday games are the way forward

Player WhatsApp groups up and down the county will be going mental making plans for post game pints.

No training saturday, 2 weeks out from the next championship game.

"Were can we go without the gaffer finding out"

"If anyone gets us caught don't bother coming back"


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on August 18, 2023, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: saffman on August 17, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
Friday games are the way forward

Player WhatsApp groups up and down the county will be going mental making plans for post game pints.

No training saturday, 2 weeks out from the next championship game.

"Were can we go without the gaffer finding out"

"If anyone gets us caught don't bother coming back"

What would be wrong with the lads heading out for a few pints after a game? Never understood that as it's no worse than horsing a big, greasy chinese or chippy into you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2023, 11:50:25 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 18, 2023, 11:46:58 AM
Quote from: saffman on August 17, 2023, 04:42:54 PM
Friday games are the way forward

Player WhatsApp groups up and down the county will be going mental making plans for post game pints.

No training saturday, 2 weeks out from the next championship game.

"Were can we go without the gaffer finding out"

"If anyone gets us caught don't bother coming back"

What would be wrong with the lads heading out for a few pints after a game? Never understood that as it's no worse than horsing a big, greasy chinese or chippy into you.

A lot of them wouldn't be horsing a greasy chip butty into them either nowadays!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2023, 09:44:32 PM
Big enough, though I guess expected, win for cushendall. Gnm in the junior appear a different beast to league as they looked to beat the biddies handy enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 18, 2023, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 18, 2023, 09:44:32 PM
Big enough, though I guess expected, win for cushendall. Gnm in the junior appear a different beast to league as they looked to beat the biddies handy enough.

No that was Div 4 St Brigids they played
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2023, 10:04:49 PM
Ah.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
So Dunloy score 31 points against Rossa who are probably not far off the second best team in the championship    ??? Doesn't bode well for cushendall or loughgiel.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 19, 2023, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
So Dunloy score 31 points against Rossa who are probably not far off the second best team in the championship  ?? Doesn't bode well for cushendall or loughgiel.

Yeah I think Dunloy are a good bit better than Cushendall/Loughgiel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 08:06:18 PM
Ahoghill one behind the johnnies a good bit into the second half. That'd be a big shock if ahoghill were to win. (They were nine or so behind so are on the comeback).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 08:06:18 PM
Ahoghill one behind the johnnies a good bit into the second half. That'd be a big shock if ahoghill were to win. (They were nine or so behind so are on the comeback).

St John's are a shadow of the team they were. Senior Championship is all very predictable. Roll on the semi-finals. Be interesting to see if Ballycastle can trouble Loughgiel tomorrow. They've a lot of injuries though.

Intermediate tight and tense as always. Hard to predict the top two in each group after two rounds. I'd probably go Sarsfields/Glenariffe  and Cushendun/Randalstown.

Junior is looking like Armoy/Lamh Dearg and Cloughmills/Ballymena. Gorts can't be written off yet either in their group.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: breakingball on August 19, 2023, 08:25:28 PM
What we have seen so far only confirms what we know

Dunloy are still number 1
Cushendall are number 2 and their only realistic challengers
Loughgiel are number 3
The rest don't count
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 19, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 08:16:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 08:06:18 PM
Ahoghill one behind the johnnies a good bit into the second half. That'd be a big shock if ahoghill were to win. (They were nine or so behind so are on the comeback).

St John's are a shadow of the team they were. Senior Championship is all very predictable. Roll on the semi-finals. Be interesting to see if Ballycastle can trouble Loughgiel tomorrow. They've a lot of injuries though.

Intermediate tight and tense as always. Hard to predict the top two in each group after two rounds. I'd probably go Sarsfields/Glenariffe  and Cushendun/Randalstown.

Junior is looking like Armoy/Lamh Dearg and Cloughmills/Ballymena. Gorts can't be written off yet either in their group.

I'm not sure it will be Glenariffe & Sarsfields, Sarsfields have beaten Creggan & will beat St Paul's & Glenravel leaving final game v Glenariffe.

Creggan final two games are St Paul's & Glenravel so they should get to 6 points. Glenariffe will need to beat Sarsfields to get to 6 points.

Carey have been a big disappointment in the other group
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 08:39:18 PM
Glenariffe will have 2 more points on the board when Creggan go to Shaw's Road next. If Creggan win there they will likely then qualify. It's been a tumultuous season for their hurlers.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 19, 2023, 09:04:14 PM
Dunloy are some outfit. Some of the passages of play they put together are a sight to behold. That said, I thought Rossa missed quite a few scoreable chances that would have kept them in touch a bit better. They'll be disappointed with that.
Nobody touches Dunloy for me though I'm more inclined to think Loughgiel are the second team.

Loughgiel are a step behind Cushendall at Championship level yet, although they won't believe that. Loughgiel, in fairness, are building and at that aren't far off that 2nd spot. Don't think Dunloy will be caught this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
I thought loughgiel left it behind them against cushendall last year but if cushendall had another forward or two I would say maybe number two. Tbh not much in it between loughgiel and cushendall. Rossa tbd later on in championship I think. Maybe thereabout too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on August 19, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Cushendall are well ahead of loughgiel IMO and will push Dunloy all the way.  Only 2 contenders.   Intermediate is wide open as always.

  I have never understood the rationale in 6 teams making it through the group stages in senior (rendering the group stage almost meaningless) whilst only 4 go through in the intermediate which is way more competitive. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: podge on August 19, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Cushendall are well ahead of loughgiel IMO and will push Dunloy all the way.  Only 2 contenders.   Intermediate is wide open as always.

  I have never understood the rationale in 6 teams making it through the group stages in senior (rendering the group stage almost meaningless) whilst only 4 go through in the intermediate which is way more competitive.

Money talks. That's all it is. The senior games have been terrible. Next meaningful game will likely end up St Endas v Ballycastle. St John's v Rossa the only other up to this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 19, 2023, 09:54:37 PM
Cushendall still number 2 for me. I really like young Joe McLaughlin as a player too. Fine addition to the team.

Loughgiel have a lot of quality hurlers coming through though so I think they might be the team to eventually end Dunloy's run but I think they probably have another couple to go yet.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
What's the best hotel in the Glens for hurling visitors?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
Marine court in Ballycastle I think was done up recently. The Salthouse meant to be very good in same area...

Mcnaughtons guest rooms in Cushendall would be fill your needs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2023, 07:13:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
Marine court in Ballycastle I think was done up recently. The Salthouse meant to be very good in same area...

Mcnaughtons guest rooms in Cushendall would be fill your needs
GRMA
Neil McManus was on Radio 1 Sunday sport today talking about expanding hurling. With Martin Forgarty.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
Marine court in Ballycastle I think was done up recently. The Salthouse meant to be very good in same area...

Mcnaughtons guest rooms in Cushendall would be fill your needs

Stayed in the guestrooms last year, great spot just above Sambos pub can't go wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 20, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
A one point win for Loughgiel v Ballycastle doesent bode too well for them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 20, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
Marine court in Ballycastle I think was done up recently. The Salthouse meant to be very good in same area...

Mcnaughtons guest rooms in Cushendall would be fill your needs

Stayed in the guestrooms last year, great spot just above Sambos pub can't go wrong

Is there a restaurant to the pub?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on August 20, 2023, 07:40:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 20, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2023, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 20, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
Marine court in Ballycastle I think was done up recently. The Salthouse meant to be very good in same area...

Mcnaughtons guest rooms in Cushendall would be fill your needs

Stayed in the guestrooms last year, great spot just above Sambos pub can't go wrong

Is there a restaurant to the pub?

No but Harrys is around the corner and it's very good
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 20, 2023, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 19, 2023, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: podge on August 19, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Cushendall are well ahead of loughgiel IMO and will push Dunloy all the way.  Only 2 contenders.   Intermediate is wide open as always.

  I have never understood the rationale in 6 teams making it through the group stages in senior (rendering the group stage almost meaningless) whilst only 4 go through in the intermediate which is way more competitive.

Money talks. That's all it is. The senior games have been terrible. Next meaningful game will likely end up St Endas v Ballycastle. St John's v Rossa the only other up to this stage.

Do the group winners get home advantage in the semi finals ? Cushendall and Loughgiel in Loughgiel in 2 weeks time to decide the winners of Group 2.

St Endas v The Town to decide the other quarter final place.

Dunloy through in the other group.

Meanwhile in Derry in Group B of the hurling championship, 4 teams, Lavey, Lynches, Banagher and Coleraine, are all on 2 points each going into the last round of fixtures.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 20, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 20, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
A one point win for Loughgiel v Ballycastle doesent bode too well for them

They were poor. Lacked fluidity, shot from range, missed a few handy frees, which isn't like James , and only one player in their full forward line performed well, Shan McGrath.

There will be a full scale enquiry in the coming days as to why they failed to perform. Jack McCloskey and Paul Boyle were spectators.

Declan McGarry has to play CHB. He was wasted in full back, never under pressure.

Loughgiel are building and fair play for bleeding the next generation.  Dunloy and Cushendall will be rubbing their hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 20, 2023, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 20, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 20, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
A one point win for Loughgiel v Ballycastle doesent bode too well for them

They were poor. Lacked fluidity, shot from range, missed a few handy frees, which isn't like James , and only one player in their full forward line performed well, Shan McGrath.

There will be a full scale enquiry in the coming days as to why they failed to perform. Jack McCloskey and Paul Boyle were spectators.

Declan McCloskey has to play CHB. He was wasted in full back, never under pressure.

Loughgiel are building and fair play for bleeding the next generation.  Dunloy and Cushendall will be rubbing their hands.

Who's in charge of Loughgiel this year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 20, 2023, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 20, 2023, 09:13:28 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 20, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 20, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
A one point win for Loughgiel v Ballycastle doesent bode too well for them

They were poor. Lacked fluidity, shot from range, missed a few handy frees, which isn't like James , and only one player in their full forward line performed well, Shan McGrath.

There will be a full scale enquiry in the coming days as to why they failed to perform. Jack McCloskey and Paul Boyle were spectators.

Declan McCloskey has to play CHB. He was wasted in full back, never under pressure.

Loughgiel are building and fair play for bleeding the next generation.  Dunloy and Cushendall will be rubbing their hands.

Who's in charge of Loughgiel this year?

Hugh again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 20, 2023, 11:25:05 PM
Does anyone have the official list of tie breakers for the championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 20, 2023, 11:53:55 PM
Usually H2H then points difference if they have drawn (I think)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on August 21, 2023, 05:57:31 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.
It would be the score difference between the 3 teams results against each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.

Its either head to head, score difference or as mentioned score difference between the two teams when they played each other.

Obviously confirmed to the clubs when being sent out championship regulations by CCCC. A tad confusing to the mere mortal though.

Id have thought it was head to head firstly.

Rossa and St Johns are both on 2 points with a -5 point scoring difference
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2023, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.

Its either head to head, score difference or as mentioned score difference between the two teams when they played each other.

Obviously confirmed to the clubs when being sent out championship regulations by CCCC. A tad confusing to the mere mortal though.

Id have thought it was head to head firstly.

Rossa and St Johns are both on 2 points with a -5 point scoring difference

I think its a bit of stretch to think Clooney Gaels will beat Rossa to even make it a possibility.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2023, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.

Its either head to head, score difference or as mentioned score difference between the two teams when they played each other.

Obviously confirmed to the clubs when being sent out championship regulations by CCCC. A tad confusing to the mere mortal though.

Id have thought it was head to head firstly.

Rossa and St Johns are both on 2 points with a -5 point scoring difference

I think its a bit of stretch to think Clooney Gaels will beat Rossa to even make it a possibility.

Dunloy play the Johnnies while Rossa are at home to Ahoghill.

On paper it looks like 2 home wins to leave Dunloy on top, Rossa in second and Naomh Eoin in third which would leave the quarter finals Loughgiel v Naomh Eoin and Rossa v the winners of Ballycastle / Naomh Eanna.

Semi final matches are an open draw I believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2023, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.

Its either head to head, score difference or as mentioned score difference between the two teams when they played each other.

Obviously confirmed to the clubs when being sent out championship regulations by CCCC. A tad confusing to the mere mortal though.

Id have thought it was head to head firstly.

Rossa and St Johns are both on 2 points with a -5 point scoring difference

I think its a bit of stretch to think Clooney Gaels will beat Rossa to even make it a possibility.

Dunloy play the Johnnies while Rossa are at home to Ahoghill.

On paper it looks like 2 home wins to leave Dunloy on top, Rossa in second and Naomh Eoin in third which would leave the quarter finals Loughgiel v Naomh Eoin and Rossa v the winners of Ballycastle / Naomh Eanna.

Semi final matches are an open draw I believe.

Should read Loughgiel or Cushendall who play each other in the final group stage match - winner to progress to the semi finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on August 21, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Should winning your group not ensure that you meet a team coming through from a quarter final rather than the possibility of meeting the other group winner due to an open draw? Seems unfair on group winners.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2023, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 21, 2023, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 21, 2023, 01:01:50 AM
I'm more looking for if there's 3 teams tied etc. I know in the league they don't it a really weird way so just trying to get on top of it all now.

Its either head to head, score difference or as mentioned score difference between the two teams when they played each other.

Obviously confirmed to the clubs when being sent out championship regulations by CCCC. A tad confusing to the mere mortal though.

Id have thought it was head to head firstly.

Rossa and St Johns are both on 2 points with a -5 point scoring difference

I think its a bit of stretch to think Clooney Gaels will beat Rossa to even make it a possibility.

Dunloy play the Johnnies while Rossa are at home to Ahoghill.

On paper it looks like 2 home wins to leave Dunloy on top, Rossa in second and Naomh Eoin in third which would leave the quarter finals Loughgiel v Naomh Eoin and Rossa v the winners of Ballycastle / Naomh Eanna.

Semi final matches are an open draw I believe.

Should read Loughgiel or Cushendall who play each other in the final group stage match - winner to progress to the semi finals.

Not sure Loughgiel would be going in to confidently to this match either after yesterday's result.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 21, 2023, 01:41:59 PM
Championship only starting now. Some decent games next time out. St Endas v Ballycastle knockout hurling. Group 1 is a foregone conclusion. Can see both Dunloy and Cushendall with a month off and maybe a trip down south pencilled in. Fancy creggan and sarsfields to advance. Cant see Oisins beating sarsfileds in the bear pit. Other group is a bit more interesting, Carey and St Galls arent dead and buried yet. Although id say Tir Na Nog and Cushendun are in pole position at the minute, can change fast. Cloughmills into a semi and a month break. LD V Armoy for the group win and Rasharkin v Davitts in another knock out game. Toss of a coin between All Saints and GNM for 2nd id say. Ive no idea what the set up in junior B is. Assume its a league with top 2 playing in a final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 21, 2023, 01:41:59 PM
Championship only starting now. Some decent games next time out. St Endas v Ballycastle knockout hurling. Group 1 is a foregone conclusion. Can see both Dunloy and Cushendall with a month off and maybe a trip down south pencilled in. Fancy creggan and sarsfields to advance. Cant see Oisins beating sarsfileds in the bear pit. Other group is a bit more interesting, Carey and St Galls arent dead and buried yet. Although id say Tir Na Nog and Cushendun are in pole position at the minute, can change fast. Cloughmills into a semi and a month break. LD V Armoy for the group win and Rasharkin v Davitts in another knock out game. Toss of a coin between All Saints and GNM for 2nd id say. Ive no idea what the set up in junior B is. Assume its a league with top 2 playing in a final?

Play each other next match at The Rigs in what should be an entertaining affair.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: delgany on August 21, 2023, 02:08:04 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on August 21, 2023, 01:38:47 PM
Should winning your group not ensure that you meet a team coming through from a quarter final rather than the possibility of meeting the other group winner due to an open draw? Seems unfair on group winners.
Group winners go straight to Semis
Semi finals  as follows
Winner Gp1. V Qtr Winner of. 3rd Gp 1 v 2nd Gp 2
Winner Gp 2 V Qtr Winner of  3rd Gp  2  v 2nd Gp 1

All neutral venues & finish on the day

Intermediate semi's

Winner Gp 1 v R-up Gp2
Winner Gp 2 v R- up Gp 1

JHC as Senior
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on August 21, 2023, 02:38:02 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 21, 2023, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on August 21, 2023, 01:41:59 PM
Championship only starting now. Some decent games next time out. St Endas v Ballycastle knockout hurling. Group 1 is a foregone conclusion. Can see both Dunloy and Cushendall with a month off and maybe a trip down south pencilled in. Fancy creggan and sarsfields to advance. Cant see Oisins beating sarsfileds in the bear pit. Other group is a bit more interesting, Carey and St Galls arent dead and buried yet. Although id say Tir Na Nog and Cushendun are in pole position at the minute, can change fast. Cloughmills into a semi and a month break. LD V Armoy for the group win and Rasharkin v Davitts in another knock out game. Toss of a coin between All Saints and GNM for 2nd id say. Ive no idea what the set up in junior B is. Assume its a league with top 2 playing in a final?

Play each other next match at The Rigs in what should be an entertaining affair.

Good game. Wednesday night too with no senior or junior games should draw a big crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 28, 2023, 05:33:50 PM
Is there a process that allows a club to request a referee assessor to be present at an adult Championship game?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2023, 06:14:35 PM
With the amount of abuse going on over the last few years you'd struggle to get a referee never mind an assessor

The assessor will only give feedback, what happens in the game will happen
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 28, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
That's worrying for all concerned. Player or manager's actions are accountable to the referee and then the control's committee. If there are no assessors who do a club turn to when there is a serious concern over a referee appointment?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2023, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 28, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
That's worrying for all concerned. Player or manager's actions are accountable to the referee and then the control's committee. If there are no assessors who do a club turn to when there is a serious concern over a referee appointment?

People can obviously make an objection to an appointment, but there has to be good reasoning behind it.

With regards to assessors there was a lot more, not sure of how many now, know of one.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 28, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
Thanks for information, good to know.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 30, 2023, 09:21:41 PM
Fairly big shock in IHC tonight, St Paul's beating Sarsfields at the death in the bear pit
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 30, 2023, 09:35:54 PM
Could cost Sarsfields a semi-final place. Good oul Intermediate Hurling Championship. More entertaining than the senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2023, 10:03:44 PM
Them and glenariffe be interesting now. You'd imagine creggan and cushendun will be through but other places up for grabs. It is two through not three isn't it?

Three senior games on live at the weekend. They should only put two through to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 30, 2023, 11:12:09 PM
Two through from 5 in intermediate. It's been super. Senior Championship has been a joke. County Board taking the piss with 3 through from 4. The games have had no atmosphere as they mean so little. There are more intense training sessions going on within clubs. The structure has done nothing to develop high standards of hurling. Needs tweeking next season.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 30, 2023, 11:36:05 PM
Yes too predictable
Dunloy cushendall lougheil and a Belfast team in semis every year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 30, 2023, 11:59:44 PM
Most of the teams involved in intermediate hate the format too. Every other competition in football and hurling sees over half the teams through the groups but this one is only 4 of 10. Scheduling is rough too. 6 of the teams that played tonight play again on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on August 31, 2023, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2023, 10:03:44 PM
Them and glenariffe be interesting now. You'd imagine creggan and cushendun will be through but other places up for grabs. It is two through not three isn't it?

Three senior games on live at the weekend. They should only put two through to make it more interesting.

Yes, if Sarsfields and Creggan win their next game, which they should then that will be proper Championship hurling. A quarter final effectively.

The other group potentially has 3 teams now fighting for that 2nd spot. If Randalstown lose their next game then it too is wide open.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2023, 12:03:26 PM
Yeah as has been said here much more interesting than the senior though a bit compressed if playing twice in a week. You'd imagine Cushendun currently favourites here. They look to have quite a few younger guys maturing quite well there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on August 31, 2023, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on August 31, 2023, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2023, 10:03:44 PM
Them and glenariffe be interesting now. You'd imagine creggan and cushendun will be through but other places up for grabs. It is two through not three isn't it?

Three senior games on live at the weekend. They should only put two through to make it more interesting.

Yes, if Sarsfields and Creggan win their next game, which they should then that will be proper Championship hurling. A quarter final effectively.

The other group potentially has 3 teams now fighting for that 2nd spot. If Randalstown lose their next game then it too is wide open.

Prior to St Paul's beating the paddies last night if results had went as expected Glenariffe would have needed to beat Sarsfields by 7 points as *i think* its a mini league tie breaker, as it was in the All County leagues.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 30, 2023, 09:21:41 PM
Fairly big shock in IHC tonight, St Paul's beating Sarsfields at the death in the bear pit

That result has put the cat among the pigeons.

4 teams on 2 points, Glenariff on top with 4 with one game left as have St Pauls. Creggan, Glenravel and Sarsfields with 2 games to play.

Leading up to an exciting last couple of rounds.

IHC doesn't disappoint.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 30, 2023, 11:59:44 PM
Most of the teams involved in intermediate hate the format too. Every other competition in football and hurling sees over half the teams through the groups but this one is only 4 of 10. Scheduling is rough too. 6 of the teams that played tonight play again on Saturday.

Probably because its a 10 team championship
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on August 31, 2023, 01:16:52 PM
In senior and junior you have 6 from 8 going through. Ultimately it boils down to all the other competitions taking 6 rounds to complete while this one is already 7 so probably not easy to find space for an extra knockout stage, especially for dual clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on August 31, 2023, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2023, 12:03:26 PM
Yeah as has been said here much more interesting than the senior though a bit compressed if playing twice in a week. You'd imagine Cushendun currently favourites here. They look to have quite a few younger guys maturing quite well there.

Some teams managed to do well in the draw, as they only had a game every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on August 31, 2023, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on August 31, 2023, 01:16:52 PM
In senior and junior you have 6 from 8 going through. Ultimately it boils down to all the other competitions taking 6 rounds to complete while this one is already 7 so probably not easy to find space for an extra knockout stage, especially for dual clubs.

CCC are under enough pressure to schedule championship matches between hurling and football. Its a thankless task and fair play to them for managing to achieve that.

Re the 3 teams from 4 in the SHC, its done away with a few dead rubber matches especially this weekend with Ballycastle and St Endas battling it out for a quarter final place in what would be a meaningless match otherwise,

I remember one year the senior championship consisting of two groups of 5 with the top two from each section qualifying for the semi finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 01, 2023, 01:57:24 PM
Shootout between Cushendall and Loughgiel for a SF spot, not major jeopardy but will be interesting to see which if either go flat out to bypass the QF.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 02, 2023, 09:34:28 PM
Great game of hurling in Glenarm this evening. Glenarm were outstanding in the first half and took a big lead in at the half. Cushendun came out firing second half and got themselves right back in it and we're ahead into stoppage time but Glenarm got a goal at the death to win it. Means Cushendun Vs Carey is basically a QF now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2023, 09:57:17 PM
The other group looks like that too. Assuming Creggan beat glenravel then glenariffe sarsfields is basically knockout too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2023, 10:32:39 PM
We went 7 points up in the first half, the tackling, aggression and taking our opportunities really put Tir na Og on the back foot

Second half we seem to be still in the changing rooms (though we stayed on pitch) or had lost our intensity, that said Tir na Og came out a different team, we still should have held on and had we scored our penalty I think the momentum would have shifted.

Fair play to them, a game of two half's and a very entertaining fair

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 02, 2023, 11:07:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2023, 10:32:39 PM
We went 7 points up in the first half, the tackling, aggression and taking our opportunities really put Tir na Og on the back foot

Second half we seem to be still in the changing rooms (though we stayed on pitch) or had lost our intensity, that said Tir na Og came out a different team, we still should have held on and had we scored our penalty I think the momentum would have shifted.

Fair play to them, a game of two half's and a very entertaining fair

Sets it up beautifully with Cushendun's surprise defeat at Feystown this evening.

Carey have been given a lifeline. They play in Cushendun on the final day. Winner takes all.

Sarsfields v Glenariffe, the same. Winner takes all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 03, 2023, 09:32:09 PM
Loughgiel just getting past Ballycastle was a warning sign, they were really poor today I thought. Totally aimless
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 03, 2023, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 03, 2023, 09:32:09 PM
Loughgiel just getting past Ballycastle was a warning sign, they were really poor today I thought. Totally aimless

Was a shambles. Completely void of an effective game plan and poor players in important positions. Don't know where they go from here. St John's are no great shakes either, not sure who'll win that tie.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on September 04, 2023, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2023, 10:32:39 PM
We went 7 points up in the first half, the tackling, aggression and taking our opportunities really put Tir na Og on the back foot

Second half we seem to be still in the changing rooms (though we stayed on pitch) or had lost our intensity, that said Tir na Og came out a different team, we still should have held on and had we scored our penalty I think the momentum would have shifted.

Fair play to them, a game of two half's and a very entertaining fair

Definitely a game of two halves.

Our lads didn't get going at all in the first half, simple errors all over the place, dropped catches, fumbled pick ups and it looked like it was game over at half time, although we could and should have had 2 goals late in the first half so maybe that was a sign of things to come.

The penalty was the key moment and it spurred us on, whereas if it had gone in, your lads would likely have safely won.

The game was played in the right spirit, none of this off the ball nonsense or negative play, 39 scores and for a neutral it would have been a great watch, although it was nerve wracking for a non neutral!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 04, 2023, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.

Be some serious head scratching being done in LG this morning I'd say.

Didn't seem to be any semblance of a plan or strategy and physically looked well off. Taking into account they are mostly younger, but still worrying signs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 04, 2023, 10:40:51 AM
Two horse race. Cushendall only team capable of beating Dunloy atm. In saying that Loughgiel had them back to 3 in the 2nd half before a scrappy enough goal broke the LG comeback

Intermediate wide open after Glerarm turned Cushendun over. 4 or 5 teams capable here

Junior seems destined for an Armoy Cloughmills final. Can Gort get themselves involved in this conversation?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2023, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.

Agreed

LG are very young and light and are a work in progress. More of a concern is very conventional hurling in terms of set up and strategy. Their next management is going to be paramount in terms of success when them lads come of age. Thought the difference yesterday was Mc Manus and difference in the physical stakes.
Did LG win one of their puckouts
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 06, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
I assume U-15A championship was played last night ? No results up on Antrim website for some reason
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2023, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.

Agreed

LG are very young and light and are a work in progress. More of a concern is very conventional hurling in terms of set up and strategy. Their next management is going to be paramount in terms of success when them lads come of age. Thought the difference yesterday was Mc Manus and difference in the physical stakes.
Did LG win one of their puckouts

They were very young last year too though and tbh should have beaten Cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2023, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2023, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.

Agreed

LG are very young and light and are a work in progress. More of a concern is very conventional hurling in terms of set up and strategy. Their next management is going to be paramount in terms of success when them lads come of age. Thought the difference yesterday was Mc Manus and difference in the physical stakes.
Did LG win one of their puckouts

They were very young last year too though and tbh should have beaten Cushendall.

Levels definitely seemed to have dropped this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 06, 2023, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 06, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
I assume U-15A championship was played last night ? No results up on Antrim website for some reason

Results are up now there;

Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ard na Ri
Naomh Eanna

All through
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2023, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 06, 2023, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on September 04, 2023, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 04, 2023, 08:10:47 AM
Loughgiel seem to have went with too much youth at once instead of opting for a more blended approach. Not working out for them so far this year, and they could struggle with the physicality that St Johns will offer.

Agreed

LG are very young and light and are a work in progress. More of a concern is very conventional hurling in terms of set up and strategy. Their next management is going to be paramount in terms of success when them lads come of age. Thought the difference yesterday was Mc Manus and difference in the physical stakes.
Did LG win one of their puckouts

They were very young last year too though and tbh should have beaten Cushendall.

Levels definitely seemed to have dropped this year.

Yeah. I guess we'll know for sure when the knockout stuff starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2023, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 06, 2023, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 06, 2023, 08:52:09 AM
I assume U-15A championship was played last night ? No results up on Antrim website for some reason

Results are up now there;

Loughgiel
Dunloy
Ard na Ri
Naomh Eanna

All through

The server for notifications and results drops every so often and it doesn't upload results at times, results are sent through manually then and updated
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: CitySlicker11 on September 06, 2023, 03:05:27 PM
Sun 17 Sep 2023, 1PM, O`Donovan Rossa---v---Mac Uílín CLG @ Corrigan Park 


Sun 17 Sep 2023 4PM Naomh Eoin---v---Na Seamróga @ Dunloy 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:56:39 PM
Quote from: CitySlicker11 on September 06, 2023, 03:05:27 PM
Sun 17 Sep 2023, 1PM, O`Donovan Rossa---v---Mac Uílín CLG @ Corrigan Park 


Sun 17 Sep 2023 4PM Naomh Eoin---v---Na Seamróga @ Dunloy

Will be tight trying to get to both
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 01:17:50 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.

Should be able to get to both games without a mad rush.. 50 mins to Dunloy on a Sunday afternoon

Game over (barring extra time lol) 2.20pm  get to your car by 2.30 and on the road to Dunloy and be there at 3.30 is you are stuck in 4th gear ;)

Would probably head along the Falls and enter Westlink at Divis area though, Westlink can be a curse on a Sunday that direction
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 12, 2023, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 01:17:50 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.

Should be able to get to both games without a mad rush.. 50 mins to Dunloy on a Sunday afternoon

Game over (barring extra time lol) 2.20pm  get to your car by 2.30 and on the road to Dunloy and be there at 3.30 is you are stuck in 4th gear ;)

Would probably head along the Falls and enter Westlink at Divis area though, Westlink can be a curse on a Sunday that direction

The hold up at the bottom of the Whiterock will be the problem. Hopefully half the cars head up the Whiterock and down the Springfield.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 12, 2023, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.

You the fixtures guy at Antrim? Game changed to 4.30pm now apparently.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 12, 2023, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.

You the fixtures guy at Antrim? Game changed to 4.30pm now apparently.

They obviously read the board  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 16, 2023, 07:53:05 PM
I know refereeing is a hard station but that was a shocker this evening in the Bear Pit. Feel sorry for lads knocking their pan in to face that standard of officiating.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 16, 2023, 11:36:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 12, 2023, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 12, 2023, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 06, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
4.30pm would let everyone get to both without rushing.

You the fixtures guy at Antrim? Game changed to 4.30pm now apparently.

They obviously read the board  ;D

Probably more to do with Gleeson being up this weekend to take in games, I had heard he wasnt overly amused by the scheduling of the games this weekend

I assume he would have taken in both IHC "playoff" games if he could have
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 16, 2023, 11:41:52 PM
Went to Cushendun and Carey this evening. Cushendun were comfortable for 45/50 minutes then completely lost their way late on. Another few mins and I think Carey would have won it but they just ran out of clock and had hit a serious amount of wides. Cushendun will probably be favourites to win it from here but having watched their last two games, there's a bit of improving to do. Really poor first half vs Glenarm and then the end of that match today they very nearly lost it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 17, 2023, 09:31:16 PM
No games on today ?  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2023, 08:32:08 AM
Thought Loughgiel may have been beat but that was a bit of a hammering. That makes it them vs Dunloy doesn't it? They were maybe a wounded animal after the cushendall game. Ballycastle winning was a big surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 18, 2023, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2023, 08:32:08 AM
Thought Loughgiel may have been beat but that was a bit of a hammering. That makes it them vs Dunloy doesn't it? They were maybe a wounded animal after the cushendall game. Ballycastle winning was a big surprise.

Could have gone either way for Loughgiel yesterday but I am sure that they will be happy with the reaction from their last outing.

Severely let down by St Johns, probably one of the most inept performances I have seen for a very long time. Worrying signs for hurling in the city.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 09:04:41 AM
Dont think we can talk about St Johns too much, bad run of injuries to main men
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 09:30:14 AM
By the looks of it we're in for two very one sided semi finals unless Loughgiel can give Dunloy a scare which i dont think will happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 18, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 09:30:14 AM
By the looks of it we're in for two very one sided semi finals unless Loughgiel can give Dunloy a scare which i dont think will happen.

To be honest I've always thought it was likely that it would end up being Cushendall vs Dunloy again and it's looking that way unless there's a big shock in the semis. Definitely think Loughgiel are in for a good few years but think it's just a bit early for them. Ballycastle was a surprise. Pleased to see it though. A big club with a proud history. Would be great if they could get it going again at the top level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on September 18, 2023, 01:47:05 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 09:30:14 AM
By the looks of it we're in for two very one sided semi finals unless Loughgiel can give Dunloy a scare which i dont think will happen.

To be honest I've always thought it was likely that it would end up being Cushendall vs Dunloy again and it's looking that way unless there's a big shock in the semis. Definitely think Loughgiel are in for a good few years but think it's just a bit early for them. Ballycastle was a surprise. Pleased to see it though. A big club with a proud history. Would be great if they could get it going again at the top level.

They possibly could. They've lost a few to Australia and obviously their top man Ciaran Clarke out injured. Get a few lads home and everyone fit could push on. Matty Donnelly injured too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 18, 2023, 02:27:28 PM
Always wonder what might have happened with ballycastle had they beat cushendall that year they were something like 11 points up in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 18, 2023, 03:14:04 PM
Saul mccaughan flying that season, some loss too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2023, 03:22:42 PM
they'll hardly take these 4 teams to dunsilly will they ?
Dunloy v Lougheil @ Ballycastle
CDall v Ballycsstle @ Dunloy or Lougheil

Would be more sensible IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 20, 2023, 10:02:14 AM
U-15 A & B finals last night, you wouldn't have known if you were following Antrims Twitter account.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 20, 2023, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 18, 2023, 03:22:42 PMthey'll hardly take these 4 teams to dunsilly will they ?
Dunloy v Lougheil @ Ballycastle
CDall v Ballycsstle @ Dunloy or Lougheil

Would be more sensible IMO

Knowing the Antrim County Board they'll play the semi finals in Armagh or Newry :'(

Surely with a North Antrim final they will have the cop on to stage the final in North Antrim instead of Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on September 20, 2023, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2023, 02:27:28 PMAlways wonder what might have happened with ballycastle had they beat cushendall that year they were something like 11 points up in.

Aye, big lead at half time, 9 points up I think, playing with a significant breeze in the first half.

Big Conor Carson made a serious amount of high catches in the second half to set up a good few scores to haul Cushendall back into it that day.

Where did Saul McCaughan ever end up ? Was some player.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 20, 2023, 10:02:14 AMU-15 A & B finals last night, you wouldn't have known if you were following Antrims Twitter account.

You could have went to the the games?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 20, 2023, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 20, 2023, 10:02:14 AMU-15 A & B finals last night, you wouldn't have known if you were following Antrims Twitter account.

You could have went to the the games?

Think more the issue was jamming these games in on a week night with the kids all back to school etc
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 20, 2023, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on September 20, 2023, 10:02:14 AMU-15 A & B finals last night, you wouldn't have known if you were following Antrims Twitter account.

You could have went to the the games?

Think more the issue was jamming these games in on a week night with the kids all back to school etc


If we jam it in at the weekend the ones 'going' to other games would say they didn't have a chance to watch them!!

Like really, other than club members/family (who'll know when the games are on) actually go to the games of other clubs at that level?

There were great match reports on the games and they were all on the fixture list of games on the Antrim web page.

If you want to be offended (not you) we could be here all day lol

Back in the day before social media, the world kept turning and kids still played the games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2023, 07:41:05 PM
Junior semi Friday night.

Junior semi Saturday morning.

Intermediate semi Saturday afternoon.

Intermediate semi Saturday evening.

Senior semi Sunday lunchtime.

Senior semi Sunday late afternoon.



I cannot fathom why there is not more logical planning that would facilitate fans getting to all 6 semi-finals next weekend.

Perhaps even a weekend pass??

Infuriating given there are so few genuinely competitive and meaningful games in the club calendar.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2023, 07:41:05 PMJunior semi Friday night.

Junior semi Saturday morning.

Intermediate semi Saturday afternoon.

Intermediate semi Saturday evening.

Senior semi Sunday lunchtime.

Senior semi Sunday late afternoon.



I cannot fathom why there is not more logical planning that would facilitate fans getting to all 6 semi-finals next weekend.

Perhaps even a weekend pass??

Infuriating given there are so few genuinely competitive and meaningful games in the club calendar.


Would you genuinely go to all games?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2023, 09:28:23 PM
I think people would squeeze in as many games as possible. £30 weekend pass would be appealing. I take your point, 6 games is overkill. But genuine hurling fans would love to see more of Saturday's games. It's far from ideal.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 21, 2023, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 20, 2023, 07:41:05 PMJunior semi Friday night.

Junior semi Saturday morning.

Intermediate semi Saturday afternoon.

Intermediate semi Saturday evening.

Senior semi Sunday lunchtime.

Senior semi Sunday late afternoon.



I cannot fathom why there is not more logical planning that would facilitate fans getting to all 6 semi-finals next weekend.

Perhaps even a weekend pass??

Infuriating given there are so few genuinely competitive and meaningful games in the club calendar.

You could take in 4 games that weekend as the fixtures stand which isnt too bad. Only change could possibly be 1 game moved from the Saturday to the Sunday and knock the Dunloy game back 2 hours and play a junior game /cushendun v creggan at 1.30
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 21, 2023, 05:21:09 PM
I make it three being possible:

●1 Friday Night
●1 Saturday
●1 Sunday

Don't think 2 is a possibility on Saturday.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 22, 2023, 09:23:30 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 21, 2023, 05:21:09 PMI make it three being possible:

●1 Friday Night
●1 Saturday
●1 Sunday

Don't think 2 is a possibility on Saturday.



Cloughmills to Loughgiel is approx a 5minute drive
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2023, 09:31:24 AM
66 mins hurling (to allow for injury time)
15 mins halftime

3:21pm

Match Traffic, Cloughmills pot holed lane and travel to Loughgiel

3:40pm at the very earliest

Parking at the TOP end of the road near the chapel and walking

3:50pm at the very earliest

______________________________________________________________________

Not a chance is anyone making that game having been at Cloughmills.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2023, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2023, 09:31:24 AM66 mins hurling (to allow for injury time)
15 mins halftime

3:21pm

Match Traffic, Cloughmills pot holed lane and travel to Loughgiel

3:40pm at the very earliest

Parking at the TOP end of the road near the chapel and walking

3:50pm at the very earliest

______________________________________________________________________

Not a chance is anyone making that game having been at Cloughmills.

Think you are really over egging it... Cost of living and so on people will go to 'A' match they they are really interested in and catch the results of the other game .. If you miss 5 minutes of a game, you won't lose out.

Not that it matters but its 10 mins half time  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2023, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2023, 09:58:01 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2023, 09:31:24 AM66 mins hurling (to allow for injury time)
15 mins halftime

3:21pm

Match Traffic, Cloughmills pot holed lane and travel to Loughgiel

3:40pm at the very earliest

Parking at the TOP end of the road near the chapel and walking

3:50pm at the very earliest

______________________________________________________________________

Not a chance is anyone making that game having been at Cloughmills.

Think you are really over egging it... Cost of living and so on people will go to 'A' match they they are really interested in and catch the results of the other game .. If you miss 5 minutes of a game, you won't lose out.

Not that it matters but its 10 mins half time  ;)

Not at all. I'd love to get to as many hurling matches this weekend as possible. 4 games would cost you half the price of a night out.

Is your watch working again?

 ;D

You're missing the point. Give us enough time to get to as many games as possible. Maximise attendance at games and maximise revenue generated. It's straightforward stuff. You might only want to go to one game, I don't.  Each to their own.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 10:40:03 AM
Would you go to 6 games in a weekend?? (I see your point but I just don't imagine there would be particularly many people who would go to 6...).

Personally I'd love to have the time to do it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2023, 10:46:47 AM
I'm not even sure the county are overly bothered by the attendance on the day especially these big games, as long as the number of streams keep rolling in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 22, 2023, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2023, 10:46:47 AMI'm not even sure the county are overly bothered by the attendance on the day especially these big games, as long as the number of streams keep rolling in.

Would they not make more on the gate than streaming as Jerome takes a fair whack of that, is my understanding. Though going by their social media output it's streaming or nothing. They still promote the games and direct you to pay for the stream when the game is over
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 22, 2023, 10:58:47 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 10:40:03 AMWould you go to 6 games in a weekend?? (I see your point but I just don't imagine there would be particularly many people who would go to 6...).

Personally I'd love to have the time to do it!

No, but I would love to see a couple of games on the Saturday and it's just not possible.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 25, 2023, 01:48:54 PM
So we think Dunloys big ball exploits will adversely affect them in the hurling ? Keelan Molloy injured ? If they get over Loughgiel it's a week to the football final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 25, 2023, 01:56:04 PM
It didn't affect them much last year when they got to a county final in the big ball. The confidence those lad must have at the minute is off the charts. Still big favourites for me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 25, 2023, 06:02:02 PM
Saturday's 2pm games moved to 1.30pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 28, 2023, 06:46:17 AM
How is CC refn a semi final when his own club is in the other semi final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 28, 2023, 06:46:17 AMHow is CC refn a semi final when his own club is in the other semi final?

Is that a thing? What benefit would it bring? Talk me through it?

He'll not get too many finals for a while, he's one of if not the best hurling ref we have, certainly the fittest and you are questioning his integrity? Based on?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 28, 2023, 08:46:53 AM
He is good enough and professional enough. I see your point though. Conflict of interests.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2023, 08:54:08 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on September 28, 2023, 08:46:53 AMHe is good enough and professional enough. I see your point though. Conflict of interests.

Then there is a conflict of interests from the get go surely? Should I not do intermediate games at hurling and senior games at football as my club play in those competitions?

Derry ref's and Antrim refs should swap come championship, that way we wouldn't have that conflict  ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on September 29, 2023, 01:57:45 PM
Big weekend of action with six semi-finals and a final across the four different tiers.

I can't see past Dunloy and Cushendall in the Senior. I think Cushendun will beat Creggan. Randalstown vs Sarsfields I think might actually be the game of the weekend but I'd go with Randalstown to win it. In Junior, I think Armoy and Cloughmills will come through and I'd side with Ardoyne to win Junior B.

Can anyone see any surprises?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:59:57 PM
Think all the games will be a lot closer this weekend than expected. Heading down to watch this game tonight,
should be (hopefully) a humdinger
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on September 29, 2023, 03:02:36 PM
100% tonights is game of the weekend. Senior wont be close. Cushendun should be too strong. Wouldnt rule out a shock in one of the junior games.
Ardoyne to win
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:59:57 PMThink all the games will be a lot closer this weekend than expected. Heading down to watch this game tonight,
should be (hopefully) a humdinger

The games do tend to tighten up at this stage of the competition, lots on the line.
The weather hasnt been kind this week so expect pitches to be heavy and the ball not to travel, lots of rucks and crowding. Don't expect to see much open expansive hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:59:57 PMThink all the games will be a lot closer this weekend than expected. Heading down to watch this game tonight,
should be (hopefully) a humdinger

The games do tend to tighten up at this stage of the competition, lots on the line.
The weather hasnt been kind this week so expect pitches to be heavy and the ball not to travel, lots of rucks and crowding. Don't expect to see much open expansive hurling.

Which for the neutral looking a physical game is grand lol!

But yes I'm personally hoping the pitches aint as heavy as predicted for Saturday though were I'm at its the flippig flies that will be annoying me more!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on September 29, 2023, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:59:57 PMThink all the games will be a lot closer this weekend than expected. Heading down to watch this game tonight,
should be (hopefully) a humdinger

The games do tend to tighten up at this stage of the competition, lots on the line.
The weather hasnt been kind this week so expect pitches to be heavy and the ball not to travel, lots of rucks and crowding. Don't expect to see much open expansive hurling.

Which for the neutral looking a physical game is grand lol!

But yes I'm personally hoping the pitches aint as heavy as predicted for Saturday though were I'm at its the flippig flies that will be annoying me more!

Thought the blue/green algae was killing the midgies?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on September 29, 2023, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 29, 2023, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 29, 2023, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 29, 2023, 02:59:57 PMThink all the games will be a lot closer this weekend than expected. Heading down to watch this game tonight,
should be (hopefully) a humdinger

The games do tend to tighten up at this stage of the competition, lots on the line.
The weather hasnt been kind this week so expect pitches to be heavy and the ball not to travel, lots of rucks and crowding. Don't expect to see much open expansive hurling.

Which for the neutral looking a physical game is grand lol!

But yes I'm personally hoping the pitches aint as heavy as predicted for Saturday though were I'm at its the flippig flies that will be annoying me more!

Thought the blue/green algae was killing the midgies?

If there is one place they will never die off it is Glenravel!

You would need to light a fire at all 4 corners of the pitch to have any chance of getting out bite free.

Usually there is just one at the scoreboard but maybe not in this weather.....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2023, 04:13:08 PM
That should be an interesting one for you guys tonight Barnish Ogie. Would you maybe be favourites?

Could be a shootout between Sean Duffin and Niall McKenna based on any reports you would read.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 29, 2023, 08:49:18 PM
Extra time in the Sarsfields v Tir Na Nog game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
Sarsfields win by 5.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 30, 2023, 07:30:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 28, 2023, 06:46:17 AMHow is CC refn a semi final when his own club is in the other semi final?

Is that a thing? What benefit would it bring? Talk me through it?

He'll not get too many finals for a while, he's one of if not the best hurling ref we have, certainly the fittest and you are questioning his integrity? Based on?

Plainly he shouldn't be put in that situation, he and his team can't win . No one is questioning what he has achieved or if his experience is far beyond any other ref in the county or what type of individual he is.
He and his team are now in a situation where they may be forced to think twice in a split second whether right or wrong if a contentious decision/call is made. They are only human, so imo its not fair on him or what he and  has team have achieved in their career to date, one decision could bring a torrent of negative comments especially from the media citing that his own club are in the other semi final etc etc, media being media never letting the reality get in the way of a good headline!  Why put him and his officials into a situation than can easily be avoided? 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 08:26:13 AM
So why a in semi final should the media give a thought about it? Surely if he refs a game at the start it 'could' have a bearing on his how a team progress?

Paranoid people will always look for a scapegoat, if you want paranoid people to decide who gets to ref games then you'll let them win.

You are the only one who's made a deal of it.

For example, if I gave a certain team a 1000 decisions in a game and 1 against I'd be called a cheat and lots of other remarks..

Some people are and always will be dicks.

We want the best ref's doing the games. Otherwise what's the point?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on September 30, 2023, 10:09:41 AM
Are the matches this weekend ticket only or can you pay with cash?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2023, 12:03:03 PM
I thought all the games were ticket only now?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on September 30, 2023, 03:14:19 PM
Creggan beating Cushendun is a minor shock
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: whatwillbwillb on September 30, 2023, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 08:26:13 AMSo why a in semi final should the media give a thought about it? Surely if he refs a game at the start it 'could' have a bearing on his how a team progress?

Paranoid people will always look for a scapegoat, if you want paranoid people to decide who gets to ref games then you'll let them win.

You are the only one who's made a deal of it.

For example, if I gave a certain team a 1000 decisions in a game and 1 against I'd be called a cheat and lots of other remarks..

Some people are and always will be dicks.

We want the best ref's doing the games. Otherwise what's the point?

You directing that at me or is it a generalisation?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 30, 2023, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 08:26:13 AMSo why a in semi final should the media give a thought about it? Surely if he refs a game at the start it 'could' have a bearing on his how a team progress?

Paranoid people will always look for a scapegoat, if you want paranoid people to decide who gets to ref games then you'll let them win.

You are the only one who's made a deal of it.

For example, if I gave a certain team a 1000 decisions in a game and 1 against I'd be called a cheat and lots of other remarks..

Some people are and always will be dicks.

We want the best ref's doing the games. Otherwise what's the point?

You directing that at me or is it a generalisation?

Just in general, people will look for scapegoats. There's not one ref looking to do a bad turn. There will be mistakes here and there. But blatantly calling something controversial is certainly not in his locker..

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on September 30, 2023, 05:07:59 PM
That's a good result for creggan. Them and sarsfields probably an unexpected final pairing.

Looked easy enough for cushendall. Looks to be a big enough gap between them, dunloy and the rest. Whether loughgiel are up there or not I guess we will see tomorrow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 30, 2023, 09:02:21 PM
Intermediate semis could have gone either way. I'd say both teams that lost were likely very slight favourites with the bookies. Could make for an excellent final.

Junior semis went to plan with no surprises. Junior B final likewise.

Cushendall won handy. Step too far for Ballycastle who I'd imagine will be content with their season.

Can't see a surprise tomorrow. Loughgiel are poor at this stage of their development.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 10:10:40 PM
From a personal viewpoint on todays game, the weather heavy pitch and difference in physicality played into Creggan's hands.

The actual better hurlers were Cushendun but a penalty and dropping a ball into the net won't help a team.

The final is a 50/50
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on September 30, 2023, 10:49:36 PM
Aye, Wednesday's storm and today's rain put an end to the possibility of free flowing hurling. Think all the games were similar in that regard today. 14 points isn't enough to win the vast majority of Championship hurling games. Cushendun had been good for goals up to today.

Just scrolling through @AntrimGAA Twitter feed there. It's diabolical. No publicity or reporting of scores from the other three semi-finals today.

Retweets of Ballycastle's match updates from the big game.

We've gone backwards since Sean Kelly stepped down.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 11:03:39 PM
Yes, updates were down to Ballycastle on scores, and fair play,  but to be fair, all county twitter accounts they don't show any updates on games .. that's generally down to certain clubs.

As I was tracking some, and they weren't available
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 01, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2023, 10:10:40 PMFrom a personal viewpoint on todays game, the weather heavy pitch and difference in physicality played into Creggan's hands.

The actual better hurlers were Cushendun but a penalty and dropping a ball into the net won't help a team.

The final is a 50/50


Largely agree. The conditions suited Creggan but tbh, I don't think Cushendun really found anything extra after the league while other teams brought another gear. They were poor in losing to Glenarm, another few minutes and Carey would have beat them then ultimately fell short today.

What happened with the penalty? I was down the far end and an umbrella blocked my view. The one Gareth dropped into the net was disappointing, he's a very good keeper but probably conditions at play for that one.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 12:30:55 AM
Unfortunately for Gareth, (who I've huge respect for) the conditions meant he caught the attacker with his feet and missed timed a tackle inside the box, both umpires there agreed when asked before full decision was taken.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 01, 2023, 12:57:26 AM
Fair enough. I was right behind a very vocal Cushendun fan who spent most of the game on yours and Conor McCann's cases and tbf he didn't even dispute it too much at the time. McCann had the last laugh with the late scores and result anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 01, 2023, 04:12:23 PM
Few saw that coming. Fully deserved too. Dunloy were outworked and outsmarted all over the field. Hate to say it but Dunloy looked leggy. Made stick and handling errors over and over again. Guilty of overplaying the game too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 01, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 01, 2023, 04:12:23 PMFew saw that coming. Fully deserved too. Dunloy were outworked and outsmarted all over the field. Hate to say it but Dunloy looked leggy. Made stick and handling errors over and over again. Guilty of overplaying the game too.

Not trying to be clever after the fact but you kind of could see it coming though, football exertions and being on the go non stop with Antrim & Dunloy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 01, 2023, 04:52:04 PM
More in reference to how poor Loughgiel have been in many games this year. People point to the St John's game but St John's are a shadow of their former selves.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 01, 2023, 05:20:14 PM
Dunloy will never be as bad again but take nothing away from Loughiel. Serious work rate all over the pitch.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on October 01, 2023, 07:35:28 PM
Was at the match today in ballycastle, loughgeil a joy to watch, dunloy have been fantastic champions, loughgeil full value for the win
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 08:08:42 PM
Dunloy coughed up some scores today, and Loughgiel gobbled them up, mishandling and some players not at peak condition plus Kevin Molloy missing ( who for me is mister consistent) will not have helped.

That take's nothing away from loughgiel who from the get go we're well up for the game..

Tenacious in the the tackle and accurate from play the were able to take scores.

Dunloy had to work harder for theirs and like a semi final defeat before against same opposition at same venue came back to dominate.

Loughgiels youth policy has paid dividends, Cushendall won't be quaking in their boots either, so sets up a great final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: pdiddy on October 01, 2023, 08:17:06 PM
Honest question MR2, what is/should be the penalty for throwing the stick in an attempt to hook an opposing player?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 01, 2023, 08:24:51 PM
You would hardly think Loughgiel will play McManus as badly again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2023, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: pdiddy on October 01, 2023, 08:17:06 PMHonest question MR2, what is/should be the penalty for throwing the stick in an attempt to hook an opposing player?

If seen it's a free, the severity of it depends on intent, and outcome.. if you connect with player it's a yellow, if you throw it like a hatchet then you could get a red..

But always go back to the first part of my answer  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2023, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 01, 2023, 08:24:51 PMYou would hardly think Loughgiel will play McManus as badly again

I imagine he'll be good as usual but I would doubt he'll score 4 goals again. Has the makings of a very interesting final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: antrimman667 on October 02, 2023, 10:44:10 AM
No one still do to the 5 then !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2023, 12:04:51 PM
I hope the Antrim County Board see sense and schedule the senior hurling final for Ballycastle, 12-15 miles from both clubs instead of having to trek up to Corrigan.

Creggans victory over Cushendun was a bit of a shock.

Conor McCann is not long back from a serious injury and probably ready to do the business for his club.

Creggan won one match in Division 2 and usual stories coming out of their camp that players weren't bothered etc. Different animal come championship time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 02, 2023, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2023, 12:04:51 PMI hope the Antrim County Board see sense and schedule the senior hurling final for Ballycastle, 12-15 miles from both clubs instead of having to trek up to Corrigan.

Creggans victory over Cushendun was a bit of a shock.

Conor McCann is not long back from a serious injury and probably ready to do the business for his club.

Creggan won one match in Division 2 and usual stories coming out of their camp that players weren't bothered etc. Different animal come championship time.

I'd be very surprised if they changed it from Corrigan but yeah it would be great to not have to trek away up to the city to watch it.

McCann was quality. Watched Creggan a couple of times this year. They beat Glenarm in Glenarm earlier in the season, then lost to them at home. The first day I thought they played quite well, particularly in terms of movement. The second Glenarm were the better side although a late rally came and they almost got back into it. On Saturday, they were the better side to be honest. Cushendun don't seem to have kicked on at all and seemed to be almost at peak through the league while other teams have found a bit extra. McCann was excellent but I'd give credit to their backs for the win. Gave Cushendun very little.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 02, 2023, 03:32:10 PM
Think McCann returning combined with Creggan exiting the football early made this a tricky one for Cushendun.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on October 02, 2023, 07:29:23 PM
Well Done to LG, the played us off the park. Don't know why our lads were so flat yesterday but we weren't at the races. It's been a long year for some of them. LG will know more about themselves after final than yesterday but good luck to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 02, 2023, 11:04:13 PM
Final in Corrigan, Sunday 15th at 2.30.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 06:59:27 AM
Ballycastle is 100 times the venue that Corrigan is in my opinion.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2023, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 06:59:27 AMBallycastle is 100 times the venue that Corrigan is in my opinion.

Was only in it for the first time there on Sunday and would have to agree.
but as i said in the football thread re referees, there was no way they were taking this outta belfast, even though ballycastle logistically make more sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2023, 10:09:55 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on October 03, 2023, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 03, 2023, 06:59:27 AMBallycastle is 100 times the venue that Corrigan is in my opinion.

Was only in it for the first time there on Sunday and would have to agree.
but as i said in the football thread re referees, there was no way they were taking this outta belfast, even though ballycastle logistically make more sense.

Ballycastle on the best there has been weather wise in months and it still had a strong breeze down the pitch affecting the game. It's not a venue for a championship final, not saying Corrigan is perfect either. But when they have spent the money there, they are always going to head there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 10:14:48 AM
What about Dunloy? Is it not considered decent?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 10:35:29 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 10:14:48 AMWhat about Dunloy? Is it not considered decent?

Currently getting work done from my last visit there along the changing rooms side of pitch.

Personally Corrigan is a great venue and has hosted the national league games well these last few years, the covered stand (based on current weather forecast) will give decent cover for those who get their tickets early

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 10:39:53 AM
I don't mind it and tbh it suits me better but I do think there is a better atmosphere in north antrim for the finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AM
It makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PM
Cue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique'  ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique'  ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps

Surely you aren't referring to the neighbours on up the hill   :-X  ;D  

Any funding that was secured was earmarked for Corrigan and the owners of the second official county ground were not consulted when funding was being sought for ground development :(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique'  ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps

Surely you aren't referring to the neighbours on up the hill   :-X  ;D   

Any funding that was secured was earmarked for Corrigan and the owners of the second official county ground were not consulted when funding was being sought for ground development :(

So if we are taking Casement as 1st County ground and Corrigan as 2nd, would that now make the next one in line 3rd county ground? Was there ever such a thing and if there was who are you referring too?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 01:00:10 PM
Yeah I'm not arguing here, I've said that equally both places should have been given the same, I'm not up to date with how that funding was sorted or earmarked for.

Was Dunsilly going on at the same time?

Sure with the change of board soon and knowing a few on here are itching to put their nominations in place for those positions, we'll be grand
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on October 03, 2023, 12:10:10 PMCue MR2 in to defend all things County Board and Corrigan

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 03, 2023, 11:52:10 AMIt makes perfect sense to host the hurling final in Ballycastle. Its location 12 miles from Loughgiel and 15 from Cushendall makes it ideal.

It is well capable to accommodate the crowd and provide a decent atmosphere. 

As a result of the location, Id say a lot of neutrals will take the option of watching the match via live stream.

Corrigan Park wouldn't be ideal with the grass banks opposite the stand / terracing not suitable to hold a large crowd compared to the terracing in Ballycastle.

Which makes one wonder why the occupiers of Antrims second county ground were not informed when funding was being sought to develop one of the two county grounds to be used as an interim to Casement.


You left out the 'clique'  ;D

Ballycastle is a great venue, I've been involved in many a county final up there and its suits parking and viewing, just missing a covered stand that the county should have helped in line with Corrigan

There I hope that helps

Surely you aren't referring to the neighbours on up the hill  :-X  ;D 

Any funding that was secured was earmarked for Corrigan and the owners of the second official county ground were not consulted when funding was being sought for ground development :(

So if we are taking Casement as 1st County ground and Corrigan as 2nd, would that now make the next one in line 3rd county ground? Was there ever such a thing and if there was who are you referring too?

Loughgiel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PM
The money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PMThe money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.

I'm sure the fact that St John's clubman Collie Donnelly was the Antrim chairman at the time is a coincidence
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2023, 03:27:47 PM
Nothing against st johns but tbh the money going where it did doesn't sit fully comfortably with me either. I would say that would be the best shout barnish oggie.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PMThe money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.

 ;)  ;)  ;) z

Quote from: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PMThe money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.

I'm sure the fact that St John's clubman Collie Donnelly was the Antrim chairman at the time is a coincidence
;)  ;)  ;)

The Owenbeg set up was developed over a 20 year period and built on the basis of affordability.

It is a fantastic facility.

With funding secured why the f**k did Antrim not develop the Ballygrooby site into a neutral championship venue not unlike the main pitch in Owenbeg. However it appears we all know the answer to that.

Dunsilly was initially designed to be a training facility but now its being overplayed.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 04, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PMThe money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.

 ;)  ;)  ;) z

Quote from: Saffrongael on October 03, 2023, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on October 03, 2023, 03:25:01 PMThe money should have gone to neither Corrigan or Ballycastle and been put into Dunsilly to make it a more suitable venue for county finals.

With Owenbeg only down the road, they didn't have to go far to see how to do it correctly.

I'm sure the fact that St John's clubman Collie Donnelly was the Antrim chairman at the time is a coincidence
;)  ;)  ;)

The Owenbeg set up was developed over a 20 year period and built on the basis of affordability.

It is a fantastic facility.

With funding secured why the f**k did Antrim not develop the Ballygrooby site into a neutral championship venue not unlike the main pitch in Owenbeg. However it appears we all know the answer to that.

Dunsilly was initially designed to be a training facility but now its being overplayed.




Whats being over played though? One pitch with lights. If the 3 pitches were floodlit(and full size) it would help. But the plan initially definatly wasnt to host championship games, the massive grass area instead of extended car parking makes that very obvious
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 04, 2023, 02:39:35 PM
Intermediate hurling final is going to Dunsilly. Three different venues for the three different hurling finals. Logistics is the main issue with Corrigan, parking and traffic specifically. Dunsilly is a decent enough venue. Could be better and could be worse.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 03:02:14 PM
Good venue for the Intermediate. Very very strange venue for the junior final though!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
Senior Ballycastle
Intermediate Dunsilly
Junior Loughgiel

Is where it should be IMO
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 03:30:03 PMSenior Ballycastle
Intermediate Dunsilly
Junior Loughgiel

Is where it should be IMO

Agree with that. Don't know why they are taking the JHC to Waterfoot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2023, 07:22:25 PM
If Casement was still available (oh the days) would anyone even give it a second thought on venue, distance, parking and so on?

Corrigan is the second pitch, with the best facilities plus with coverage from city council for H&S. it's a no brainier.

I like Ballycastle as a venue, for parking, stewardship and so on but if you ask the players, I'd say they'd opt to be  playing at Corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on October 04, 2023, 08:45:30 PM
Looking forward to casement park and the euros
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 05, 2023, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 03:30:03 PMSenior Ballycastle
Intermediate Dunsilly
Junior Loughgiel

Is where it should be IMO

Agree with that. Don't know why they are taking the JHC to Waterfoot.

Stick the two teams cars into it theres not much parking space left. Poor viewing too and pitch was never one of my favourites either
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 05, 2023, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 04, 2023, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 04, 2023, 03:30:03 PMSenior Ballycastle
Intermediate Dunsilly
Junior Loughgiel

Is where it should be IMO

Agree with that. Don't know why they are taking the JHC to Waterfoot.

Stick the two teams cars into it theres not much parking space left. Poor viewing too and pitch was never one of my favourites either

Hard to beat the view!! Love Glenariffe for that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 05, 2023, 09:52:02 AM
Fantastic on a long sunny summer evening
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 05, 2023, 12:03:16 PM
They hosted the Junior final two years ago there between Glenravel and Glenarm which was obviously the perfect venue.

They'll open the back bit for parking too. They'll do a good job of hosting it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 05, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
Centre location there. But from a viewing point of view and taking two teams past better venues is silly. Ballycastle would be 20minutes from both. Terrace area, with more than enough parking.

Good club pitch btw and good people, not a dig at their club just feel better options for a county final
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 05, 2023, 12:28:10 PM
The big problem atm is getting teams willing to host games at this time of year too. There are a lot of venues that don't necessarily make sense across the codes but a lot of clubs want to minimize the usage of their pitch once their own teams are done so they can get whatever maintenance is required sorted.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2023, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on October 05, 2023, 12:28:10 PMThe big problem atm is getting teams willing to host games at this time of year too. There are a lot of venues that don't necessarily make sense across the codes but a lot of clubs want to minimize the usage of their pitch once their own teams are done so they can get whatever maintenance is required sorted.

Getting people to be stewards and hosting the finals is a a big thing.. People/clubs don't want the hassle nowadays

So not knowing what's going on in the background will always generate opinions .. BTW I know nothing lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 05, 2023, 12:51:49 PM
Glenariffe seems happy enough to host matches at the minute. They even had an Antrim Camogie match this year and hosted one of the North Antrim hurling finals a few weeks ago. My wee girl plays for their Gaelic team so I'd be there a good bit although I'm not a member or from the area, just a taxi driver for the young one.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Spike on October 05, 2023, 04:30:14 PM
Does it need to be a hurling stronghold venue?  Would a Ballymena, Portglenone or Cargin be suitable?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 11, 2023, 08:43:21 AM
I'm assuming Dunloy minors weren't allowed to play last night in U-19 semi final against Glenariffe/Glenravel. Looked like an easy enough victory for Glenariffe/Glenravel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2023, 09:08:20 AM
Sounded like a bad injury for the Dunloy goalie who is hopefully ok. Don't know about u17s etc.

The underage is interesting this year - Cushendall were so dominant at u15 then got beat in championship, u17 quite open and then Loughgiel beat in u19.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 11, 2023, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 11, 2023, 09:08:20 AMSounded like a bad injury for the Dunloy goalie who is hopefully ok. Don't know about u17s etc.

The underage is interesting this year - Cushendall were so dominant at u15 then got beat in championship, u17 quite open and then Loughgiel beat in u19.

I'd have thought the Glenariffe/Glenravel combo would have been favourites for U17 as Dunloy were well off them at U15 a few years back, no?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 11, 2023, 11:07:45 AM
Senior - hard to look past Cushendall. Though the intense rivalry could see the game tighter than expected.  Intermediate and Junior tougher to call. Weather looks decent and all 3 games can be reached logistically. Looing forward to it. Hopefully a great weekend of hurling:

Senior - Cushendall
Intermediate - Sarsfields
Junior - Cloughmills

U19 just doesn't work unfortunately. Lack of interest with the big clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2023, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 11, 2023, 11:07:45 AMSenior - hard to look past Cushendall. Though the intense rivalry could see the game tighter than expected.  Intermediate and Junior tougher to call. Weather looks decent and all 3 games can be reached logistically. Looing forward to it. Hopefully a great weekend of hurling:

Senior - Cushendall
Intermediate - Sarsfields
Junior - Cloughmills

U19 just doesn't work unfortunately. Lack of interest with the big clubs.


Thoughts on Minor final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 11, 2023, 11:40:07 AM
Dunloy will be hard to beat. Anything else will be a surprise.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 12:12:15 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on October 11, 2023, 11:07:45 AMSenior - hard to look past Cushendall. Though the intense rivalry could see the game tighter than expected.  Intermediate and Junior tougher to call. Weather looks decent and all 3 games can be reached logistically. Looing forward to it. Hopefully a great weekend of hurling:

Senior - Cushendall
Intermediate - Sarsfields
Junior - Cloughmills


U19 just doesn't work unfortunately. Lack of interest with the big clubs.


Hard to argue with this although i think the pitch will suit armoy in the junior final. Could be plenty of goals
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 11, 2023, 12:30:06 PM
I have a feeling Loughgiel will win. I think the semi and quarter will stand them in good stead and Cushendall haven't really had a tight game so far (though granted one was against Loughgiel). I can't see McManus getting 4 goals again either.

The likes of Paul Boyle against Paddy Burke which you would assume will be a matchup will be interesting and who picks up McManus also. McLaughlin looks a find for Cushendall who typically find more good backs than forwards so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 11, 2023, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 11, 2023, 08:43:21 AMI'm assuming Dunloy minors weren't allowed to play last night in U-19 semi final against Glenariffe/Glenravel. Looked like an easy enough victory for Glenariffe/Glenravel

Yeah, I read a report that said they weren't allowed to play their minors because of the final at the weekend.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 11, 2023, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 11, 2023, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 11, 2023, 09:08:20 AMSounded like a bad injury for the Dunloy goalie who is hopefully ok. Don't know about u17s etc.

The underage is interesting this year - Cushendall were so dominant at u15 then got beat in championship, u17 quite open and then Loughgiel beat in u19.

I'd have thought the Glenariffe/Glenravel combo would have been favourites for U17 as Dunloy were well off them at U15 a few years back, no?

Dunloy seems to have passed that Glenariffe team now. Won the league, beat them in the final of the Darragh Cup and beat them in the Championship semi-final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 03:05:33 PM
Anyone know anything about the glenariffe glenravel team. i know they have 2 teams at u17. Obviously at least one of the teams have enough to play on their own
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 11, 2023, 04:33:55 PM
As far as I know, the two clubs are completely joined at the juvenile level after U-11. They would train a lot at Glenariffe's pitch but there's also a few Glenariffe lads who go up to GLenravel to play football for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 11, 2023, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 11, 2023, 03:05:33 PMAnyone know anything about the glenariffe glenravel team. i know they have 2 teams at u17. Obviously at least one of the teams have enough to play on their own

Glenravel definitely haven't had enough to field on their own though I believe their numbers have improved and they may be going on their own from next year. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 13, 2023, 04:18:04 PM
Big weekend of matches and to be honest, three games that could all go either way. Cushendall would have been favoured more pre tournament but Loughgiel's win over Dunloy probably makes them a different proposition. Creggan and Sarsfields I find hard to call and maybe just favour Cloughmills over Armoy but again there's little in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 14, 2023, 06:00:08 PM
I think after that cloughmills will be relieved to get over the line and armoy looking at the chances they had. Sending off cost them!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 03:07:59 PM
Cushendall on top so far...

Loughgiel need a goal to get going
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PM
Watching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

He's desperate, Antrim should cut him adrift and do it themselves like other counties do, and not have to hand over a substantial sum of money to Jerome
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: 1884 on October 15, 2023, 05:12:24 PMC.
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

He's desperate, Antrim should cut him adrift and do it themselves like other counties do, and not have to hand over a substantial sum of money to Jerome

Dose. McInstosh not far behind

Behave lads ffs! Very simple, don't watch it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on October 15, 2023, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: 1884 on October 15, 2023, 05:12:24 PMC.
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

He's desperate, Antrim should cut him adrift and do it themselves like other counties do, and not have to hand over a substantial sum of money to Jerome

Dose. McInstosh not far behind

Behave lads ffs! Very simple, don't watch it

Behave??? What are you talking about? Compared the standard of streaming fare served up by other counties it's abysmal.

I paid to watch it rather than have to suffer corrigan two weeks in a row.  I'm entitled to my opinion and waiting it in total silence isn't much good.

What's that got to do with you? Is he your mate? It's a shambles that that's the only option we have, listening to someone who literally doesn't have a clue about hurling and who swallowed a handbook of clichés.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 05:55:38 PM
Funny game, Loughgiel a decent start to go 0-3 to 0-1 up but once Cushendall got the goal they were never behind. Both teams some really bad wides in second half, Cushendall probably moreso and that's what let Loughgiel back in. You would think Cdall would need a reasonable improvement for Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: 1884 on October 15, 2023, 05:12:24 PMC.
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

He's desperate, Antrim should cut him adrift and do it themselves like other counties do, and not have to hand over a substantial sum of money to Jerome

Dose. McInstosh not far behind

Behave lads ffs! Very simple, don't watch it

Behave??? What are you talking about? Compared the standard of streaming fare served up by other counties it's abysmal.

I paid to watch it rather than have to suffer corrigan two weeks in a row.  I'm entitled to my opinion and waiting it in total silence isn't much good.

What's that got to do with you? Is he your mate? It's a shambles that that's the only option we have, listening to someone who literally doesn't have a clue about hurling and who swallowed a handbook of clichés.

I've watched plenty online games no worse no better, wise up. As I said,  don't watch it. It's not difficult
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 06:08:13 PM
When you are handing over a tenner for a stream you are well entitled to your opinion & it's not as if it's a volunteer doing it. Jerome does well out of it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on October 15, 2023, 06:22:49 PM
A highly enjoyable senior final today. Cushendall looked home and hosed heading injury time, great drama at the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on October 15, 2023, 06:27:58 PM
Thought the game was scrappy and poor enough. Loughgiel let that one slip. Would have been a different outcome on the bigger pitch at Ballycastle.

Cushendall won't beat slaughtneil.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 06:33:42 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 06:27:58 PMThought the game was scrappy and poor enough. Loughgiel let that one slip. Would have been a different outcome on the bigger pitch at Ballycastle.

Cushendall won't beat slaughtneil.
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 06:08:13 PMWhen you are handing over a tenner for a stream you are well entitled to your opinion & it's not as if it's a volunteer doing it. Jerome does well out of it

If he's watched his stream's before and is still paying money to watch then complain about it more fool him.

Jerome has never said his knowledge of hurling was great, that's why Johnny is the main commentator, who did really well, again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?

Complaining about seeing games you'd have never seen had you went to the game?

Censorship? Explain how he has stopped it? Also be keen to hear who was stopped bringing live commentary games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?

Complaining about seeing games you'd have never seen had you went to the game?

Censorship? Explain how he has stopped it? Also be keen to hear who was stopped bringing live commentary games

Complaining about NOT seeing highlights we used to see of games, which was useful for those who COULD NOT make the games. Can't understand how that part was hard to follow in my last post. Censorship being where Jerome moaned and complained enough to stop SK from putting up highlights of games he was at up on the social media page. If you genuinely aren't acting stupid... the Neil McManus handpass vs Sarsfields is an example of one we'd have seen in the past from Sean. Was a great addition to the social media channels. No idea what you're talking about re the live commentary. Entitled to the opinion MR2, I'd agree with you on most things here but it seems you're opposing the criticism regardless of what it's at.

Edit by Mod5 to remove poster name
(Apologies was unaware I used the name)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?

Complaining about seeing games you'd have never seen had you went to the game?

Censorship? Explain how he has stopped it? Also be keen to hear who was stopped bringing live commentary games

Complaining about NOT seeing highlights we used to see of games, which was useful for those who COULD NOT make the games. Can't understand how that part was hard to follow in my last post. Censorship being where Jerome moaned and complained enough to stop SK from putting up highlights of games he was at up on the social media page. If you genuinely aren't acting stupid... the Neil McManus handpass vs Sarsfields is an example of one we'd have seen in the past from Sean. Was a great addition to the social media channels. No idea what you're talking about re the live commentary. Entitled to the opinion MR2, I'd agree with you on most things here but it seems you're opposing the criticism regardless of what it's at.

Edit by Mod5 to remove poster name
(Apologies was unaware I used the name)

I'm just saying we are complaining about games being shown or available which we never had. I'm wondering who stepped forward to do the recording of games other than Jerome?

And to finish no one needs to watch it if you feel it's not up to standard, and trust me the club games available on the firestick and nowhere near as good.

Oh one more thing that handpass was illegal when I watched it again lol, and I was the ref that day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?

Complaining about seeing games you'd have never seen had you went to the game?

Censorship? Explain how he has stopped it? Also be keen to hear who was stopped bringing live commentary games

Complaining about NOT seeing highlights we used to see of games, which was useful for those who COULD NOT make the games. Can't understand how that part was hard to follow in my last post. Censorship being where Jerome moaned and complained enough to stop SK from putting up highlights of games he was at up on the social media page. If you genuinely aren't acting stupid... the Neil McManus handpass vs Sarsfields is an example of one we'd have seen in the past from Sean. Was a great addition to the social media channels. No idea what you're talking about re the live commentary. Entitled to the opinion MR2, I'd agree with you on most things here but it seems you're opposing the criticism regardless of what it's at.

Edit by Mod5 to remove poster name
(Apologies was unaware I used the name)

I'm just saying we are complaining about games being shown or available which we never had. I'm wondering who stepped forward to do the recording of games other than Jerome?
And to finish no one needs to watch it if you feel it's not up to standard, and trust me the club games available on the firestick and nowhere near as good.

Oh one more thing that handpass was illegal when I watched it again lol, and I was the ref that day.

There are club games on Firestick?!  :o  :o Why am I only hearing this now? What channel?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:43:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: GAAhead2013 on October 15, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 15, 2023, 03:50:50 PMWatching the stream.

How can I mute Jerome? That guy can't help himself. He's hard enough to tolerate wheeling out clichés with football but he's insufferable to listen to regarding hurling.

I know what you mean, I can't stand him either! Although mine probably a bit different than yours. I remember being told that he gave off to Sean Kelly for videoing an in-game goal and putting it on his social media page. This was why I loved Sean as PRO, he was brilliant at put up real time video highlights when you weren't able to watch the game. It's quite clear that Jerome has stopped all chances of that now unless you pay him your money. Only highlights we see now are quotes from himself and his own highlights. I'd actually argue that's why we don't get to see highlights of junior & intermediate games! I stand to be corrected.
I understand paying for the stream, but what about Antrim GAA members just having a way of enjoying games in Antrim without the censorship?

Complaining about seeing games you'd have never seen had you went to the game?

Censorship? Explain how he has stopped it? Also be keen to hear who was stopped bringing live commentary games

Complaining about NOT seeing highlights we used to see of games, which was useful for those who COULD NOT make the games. Can't understand how that part was hard to follow in my last post. Censorship being where Jerome moaned and complained enough to stop SK from putting up highlights of games he was at up on the social media page. If you genuinely aren't acting stupid... the Neil McManus handpass vs Sarsfields is an example of one we'd have seen in the past from Sean. Was a great addition to the social media channels. No idea what you're talking about re the live commentary. Entitled to the opinion MR2, I'd agree with you on most things here but it seems you're opposing the criticism regardless of what it's at.

Edit by Mod5 to remove poster name
(Apologies was unaware I used the name)

I'm just saying we are complaining about games being shown or available which we never had. I'm wondering who stepped forward to do the recording of games other than Jerome?
And to finish no one needs to watch it if you feel it's not up to standard, and trust me the club games available on the firestick and nowhere near as good.

Oh one more thing that handpass was illegal when I watched it again lol, and I was the ref that day.

There are club games on Firestick?!  :o  :o Why am I only hearing this now? What channel?

They are good craic proper local accents so could do with subtitles 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2023, 08:29:56 PM
Any comments on the game??

I thought it was entertaining. Best game won and there was some good hurling on view though some awful wides. Ryan mccambridge motm for me. James mcnaughton and paddy Burke probably pushed for it too. Mc naught on some sight in full flow. McManus a handful but loughgiel did well enough on him too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2023, 08:50:54 PM
Yeah the game started brilliantly for loughgiel and McNaughton who couldn't miss, Dall started to work things out, found space and started to add to their scores while dominating in defence and snuffing out Loughgiel's attack, the Dall goal sparked them and who knows if they missed that opportunity.

Momentum was with Loughgiel near then but Cushendall held on.

Paddy Burke was class, Neil was held scoreless from play but set up the goal and was a big outlet for their defence to hit.

Would have been some score had McNaughton clipped over that last free and who knows what would happen in extra time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2023, 08:59:14 PM
Yeah if that had went over it would have been interesting how extra time would have went. I think loughgiel will be a big force over the next few years though some of the younger cushendall boys weren't bad today too.

Some good performances from non county players today which hopefully will bode well for more squad depth next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 09:06:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 15, 2023, 08:29:56 PMAny comments on the game??

I thought it was entertaining. Best game won and there was some good hurling on view though some awful wides. Ryan mccambridge motm for me. James mcnaughton and paddy Burke probably pushed for it too. Mc naught on some sight in full flow. McManus a handful but loughgiel did well enough on him too.

Yeah that's as quiet, ineffective maybe too strong a word, as I have seen McManus. Some really uncharacteristic wides. McCambridge was really good and probably my MOTM too, McNaughton at times has to do nearly too much for Loughgiel but he is some runner with the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on October 15, 2023, 10:32:42 PM
The usual pre and after sales pitch from Jerome Quinn. He must be on commission.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 15, 2023, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on October 15, 2023, 10:32:42 PMThe usual pre and after sales pitch from Jerome Quinn. He must be on commission.

Lets just say the more streams the more he gets
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 16, 2023, 01:03:40 AM
I found Jerome a bit disrespectful when he was doing the Junior Football final. Felt he was talking it down a lot but at the end of the day I'd rather listen to him or whoever and be able to see the matches I can't attend than nothing.

On the game, I felt for James McNaughton. He was absolutely gutted to miss that but it was a very hard free and think there were other chances Loughgiel left out there. Have to see Neil going over to him at the whistle was a touch of class.

MOTM for me was Paddy Burke. Great defender but gets forward too. Absolute monster.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 07:55:25 AM
Definitely on commission. He is what he is and been about years so tbh I don't mind but for one thing... when you get a stream that doesn't work he just laughs at it rather than saying that you're a paying customer and we will fix this asap! Still great to get the games at home though when you can't go and I don't get much time these days to go so can't complain.

Didn't see McManus go to mcnaughton at the end but not surprised.

Damon McMullan and gillan worth a look for the county i think. In time McLaughlin will be a good one and McCormick maybe worth a look too.

I think there's a lot of experience in cushendall defense and a few younger loughgiel forwards maybe struggled but they will come good.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2023, 08:17:56 AM
LG played their final against Dunloy, tighter pitch in Corrigan was never going to suit them against physically stronger team.

Tactically LG found a bit wanting when they needed to change things up but I just don't think they currently have the personnel to change that much. Their short passing style works when you have that space and time which they got against Dunloy, they didn't yesterday and it broke down too often.

Leaving PB as a spare man was a criminal offence in a game like this. Young McLaughlin had a super first half and I would say if RMcC hadn't of hit a few bad wides he would have been nailed on for MOTM. Can't argue with PB getting it though had some influence on the game in general.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 16, 2023, 08:35:45 AM
Can't disagree with any of that and you would think they will learn from their first final for a lot of them & can't go without my annual whinge about the scoreboard in Corrigan, not visible to 50% of the crowd, not good enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 16, 2023, 09:16:06 AM
Good crowd in for the game yesterday and the surface looked great.

 Don't know what the whinging about the live streams is all about- seems like a pretty good service to me if fairness.

On the game, I think the score line flattered lgiel a bit to be honest. Gifted a late goal and Cushendall must have hit around 10wides in the second half that would have had them out of site. 

Cushendalls back line was too crafty for lgiel although Campbell had a rare poor game.  Paddy Burke was immense as always and leaving him as a sweeper was poor from the lgiel sideline, as was the fact that they made at least 2 if not 3 subs in injury time.

Cdalls puck out strategy in the first half in particular was quite effective.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 09:20:23 AM
Fantastic having the games at home. Decent coverage and good value for money if you cant make the game. Id like to hear a few other interviews though. McManus Sambo and Christy all the predictable ones. Would be good to see someone else get the nod

Loughgiel really lacked that FF ball winner to get them up the pitch i thought. Boyle was well wrapped up and McGrath didnt get going either. But Cushendalls backs are fantastic. Two Burkes, Walsh, Campbell all county experience

Strange the junior hurling was the only one not streamed out of the six
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: podge on October 16, 2023, 09:16:06 AMGood crowd in for the game yesterday and the surface looked great.

 Don't know what the whinging about the live streams is all about- seems like a pretty good service to me if fairness.

On the game, I think the score line flattered lgiel a bit to be honest. Gifted a late goal and Cushendall must have hit around 10wides in the second half that would have had them out of site. 

Cushendalls back line was too crafty for lgiel although Campbell had a rare poor game.  Paddy Burke was immense as always and leaving him as a sweeper was poor from the lgiel sideline, as was the fact that they made at least 2 if not 3 subs in injury time.

Cdalls puck out strategy in the first half in particular was quite effective.

Puc out strategy looked to be lump the ball into acres of space for a man running from deep. They done that 2 or 3 times? Very poor from Lgiel to allow that to happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
I thought Corrigan looked in great condition, wasn't at the pitch so not sure how the surface was, this time of year pitches can be heavy and a bit lumpy but it seemed fine as pick ups and bounce of ball looked good. So fair play to the grounds team.. But we'll mark them down for the scoreboard lol

Physically Cushendall will match S'neil should they meet? Not sure of the draw.

Then its down to tactics, technically Cushendall just that bit better but S'neil probably still smarting from defeat last year and will be hungry enough to get another crack at Ulster and beyond, they won't have become a bad team over night

Whoever comes outta Down will have some say but feel their challenge will fall short



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 16, 2023, 09:32:54 AM
Slaghneil straight through to Ulster final I think so a long enough period of inactivity for them, Cdall will play Down champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Slaughtneil Cushendall v interesting now. Dunloy's strength is in their forwards rather than backs and cushendall's vice versa so interesting to see how they handle that. Who will pick up Rodgers will be interesting as he seems to be on form.

All the above is assuming they beat the down champions mind you... I think it's a tight enough call for that final. I'd expect Portaferry will come through and maybe won't be that easy beat either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on October 16, 2023, 09:58:16 AM
People are missing the point.

Every county streams club games, Jerome doesn't give us anything that isn't available in any other county for their club games and he gets to monopolise ours.

Let him stream them, I don't care (I'm sure he's well renumerated) but that doesn't mean he needs to also do any of the talking or commentary, especially regarding hurling. My issue is with his complete lack of any knowledge or insight on commentary, he's a just a jumble of clichés.

Regarding the game. Loughgiel left that one behind them. The number of scores they coughed up and gifted Cushendall playing short out of defence cost them.  That wouldn't have been as much of an issue on the bigger pitch in Ballycastle.

If the game had gone on another few minutes loughgiel would have won.  Cushendall may well have the size physically for slaughtneil but I don't think they have the fitness and mobility to maintain the intensity required to beat them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 16, 2023, 10:02:07 AM
Slaughtneil beat by Glen in football last night (dire game). Full focus on hurling and a potential meeting with Cushendall.
I know a few from Slaughtneil wanted Dunloy again, obviously, but wanted Cushendall to win Antrim as they had never beaten them before.

Another intriguing game in store should it happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 16, 2023, 10:34:26 AM
Does anyone know the reason for the announcement just before have time that the supporters on the grass bank adjacent to the scaffolding, had to move due to a safety issue ???



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Deerstalker on October 16, 2023, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 16, 2023, 10:34:26 AMDoes anyone know the reason for the announcement just before have time that the supporters on the grass bank adjacent to the scaffolding, had to move due to a safety issue ???





I was over at that side and didn't hear any announcement but that side of the ground is a disaster for various reasons with a big crowd.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 16, 2023, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Deerstalker on October 16, 2023, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on October 16, 2023, 10:34:26 AMDoes anyone know the reason for the announcement just before have time that the supporters on the grass bank adjacent to the scaffolding, had to move due to a safety issue ???





I was over at that side and didn't hear any announcement but that side of the ground is a disaster for various reasons with a big crowd.

I would imagine that it isn't even supposed to be open on that side of the pitch.

Health and Safety from the council were at Corrigan so would imagine that Antrim CCC will be getting a letter or warning in relation to it.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 11:49:28 AM
It's a good job there wasn't a problem as everyone was told to move and no one did.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Deerstalker on October 16, 2023, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 11:49:28 AMIt's a good job there wasn't a problem as everyone was told to move and no one did.

Where would they have moved to though? Behind the net would have been the only option, there was no room anywhere
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 12:12:39 PM
I wondered that myself.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 16, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 11:49:28 AMIt's a good job there wasn't a problem as everyone was told to move and no one did.

I didn't think people were told to move.  I think it was announced that 'if' people were moving from that section of the ground at half time, they should go round the long route behind the far away goals. 

I am guessing it was to avoid too many people funnelling through a very small gap under the scaffolding.

I don't believe there was an actual issue/problem, they were just trying to avoid one.

There is an issue at that side of the pitch where there is a large void behind the top of the hill.  The void is masked by brambles etc and it's easy to thinks it's not there.  I saw one man fall into yesterday at the end of the game and it took a few people to rescue him from it- it could have been a serious incident but all seemed fine.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 12:52:24 PM
Where they encroaching the scaffolding of the camera man?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 16, 2023, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 12:52:24 PMWhere they encroaching the scaffolding of the camera man?

No, the area beside the scaffolding was 'taped' off.

I think the announcement was due to safety issues patrons on the bank adjacent to the scaffolding were to move behind the goal - obviously that never happened.

Adds more weight to the argument that the match should have been held in Ballycastle if Corrigan wasn't capable of hosting a very large crowd
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 16, 2023, 01:07:09 PM
90% sure the announcement was telling people on that side of the scaffolding to come round the long way if going to toilet etc. My wee girl asked why and I explained it as probably being if you've a few hundred people coming round a narrow bit there's a chance someone knocks into the scaffolding which could be dangerous for those on it and those underneath it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: podge on October 16, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 11:49:28 AMIt's a good job there wasn't a problem as everyone was told to move and no one did.

I didn't think people were told to move.  I think it was announced that 'if' people were moving from that section of the ground at half time, they should go round the long route behind the far away goals. 

I am guessing it was to avoid too many people funnelling through a very small gap under the scaffolding.

I don't believe there was an actual issue/problem, they were just trying to avoid one.

There is an issue at that side of the pitch where there is a large void behind the top of the hill.  The void is masked by brambles etc and it's easy to thinks it's not there.  I saw one man fall into yesterday at the end of the game and it took a few people to rescue him from it- it could have been a serious incident but all seemed fine.

that area is very unsafe. i took a small step back at the antim cork game a few years ago to let someone past and very nearly needed rescued myself
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 01:13:32 PM
Ah I maybe misheard. Yeah that side could do with a bit of work tbh. The stand side looks good now and is a good enough setup for club games.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 01:14:15 PM
I'm glad I watched it from the comfort of my sofa! Sounds like someone coulda died....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on October 16, 2023, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: podge on October 16, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 11:49:28 AMIt's a good job there wasn't a problem as everyone was told to move and no one did.

I didn't think people were told to move.  I think it was announced that 'if' people were moving from that section of the ground at half time, they should go round the long route behind the far away goals. 

I am guessing it was to avoid too many people funnelling through a very small gap under the scaffolding.

I don't believe there was an actual issue/problem, they were just trying to avoid one.

There is an issue at that side of the pitch where there is a large void behind the top of the hill.  The void is masked by brambles etc and it's easy to thinks it's not there.  I saw one man fall into yesterday at the end of the game and it took a few people to rescue him from it- it could have been a serious incident but all seemed fine.

that area is very unsafe. i took a small step back at the antim cork game a few years ago to let someone past and very nearly needed rescued myself

It would be dangerous if it was a rainy / wet day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 01:19:31 PM
Yeah sounds like we need to update Corrigan and get a stepped viewing platform over there quickly as Casement might not even be open for finals
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 01:19:31 PMYeah sounds like we need to update Corrigan and get a stepped viewing platform over there quickly as Casement might not even be open for finals

Surely its pointless for Antrim GAA if it isnt. County games then empty for 6months with the odd Luke Combs concert
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 16, 2023, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 02:06:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 01:19:31 PMYeah sounds like we need to update Corrigan and get a stepped viewing platform over there quickly as Casement might not even be open for finals

Surely its pointless for Antrim GAA if it isnt. County games then empty for 6months with the odd Luke Combs concert

Antrim GAA won't own Casement, but would be poor for the Ulster Council not to allow their clubs finals to be played there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 16, 2023, 03:16:41 PM
You look at the crowd yesterday vs county games. A lot of county games wouldn't need casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 16, 2023, 04:07:13 PM
Sad that the hurling is over for the season, as far as our own club scene goes. Hopefully our clubs can do well in Ulster: Cushendall, Creggan, Cloughmills, Cargin, Glenravel and Rasharkin. The competition is brutally tough in Ulster club football. You'd love to see the hurling having the same quantity of competition.

Finally, the group stages have been fantastic at Intermediate and Junior. Some seriously edgy games that definitely allowed the cream to rise to the top. Well worth the admission fee and effort. The senior groups were dull, flat, void of atmosphere, no bite. How could this be approved upon next season?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
We really need other teams to get to a better standard for it to be competitive. After a decent league campaign St Enda's didn't have that extra gear the big teams have. Rossa have it in their locker to beat a 'big' team but not firing at all, maybe the Murphy lads can comeback and give it another rattle, some teams can get by without the odd player here and there but, Murphy's and Armstrong missing won't have helped them this year.

Dunloy will most certainly be back and Cushendall are always there or there about's, Loughgiel will grow, that standard they keep for all their games is hard to do all season, they throw a lot behind winning every game, the league isn't important, just stay in it is enough, and start peaking for finals.

Ballycastle gave it a rattle and caught Rossa napping, I would say the ballycastle lads knew they could beat them so no surprise there, but with injured players back next year that may change for the better.

St Johns, I don't know, one or two injuries this year, played well against Dunloy, up there, and came up against Loughgiel who never gave them a sniff, team is still young enough but getting near the end of those better players, better days.

Creggan will get it tough going back up but I'd say at the start of the year their hurling fraternity would not have thought they'd get to a final never mind win it.

The format is good, but I take that some of the games lacked that intensity, juggling for positions to try and win their group didn't bring much atmosphere..

Down South using the championship to have relegation battles seems to work well and give all games meaning. something to look at maybe
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on October 16, 2023, 04:57:36 PM
Do the likes of Creggan have to go up? Its a fairly pointless year to do so, and no guarantee they'd win intermediate again given the competitiveness.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on October 16, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 16, 2023, 09:58:16 AMPeople are missing the point.

Every county streams club games, Jerome doesn't give us anything that isn't available in any other county for their club games and he gets to monopolise ours.

Let him stream them, I don't care (I'm sure he's well renumerated) but that doesn't mean he needs to also do any of the talking or commentary, especially regarding hurling. My issue is with his complete lack of any knowledge or insight on commentary, he's a just a jumble of clichés.

Regarding the game. Loughgiel left that one behind them. The number of scores they coughed up and gifted Cushendall playing short out of defence cost them.  That wouldn't have been as much of an issue on the bigger pitch in Ballycastle.

If the game had gone on another few minutes loughgiel would have won.  Cushendall may well have the size physically for slaughtneil but I don't think they have the fitness and mobility to maintain the intensity required to beat them.

If, if Cushendall beat the Down champions, the final will probably be Armagh.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on October 16, 2023, 08:28:30 PM
Cushendall will beat the Down champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on October 16, 2023, 08:33:14 PM
Any idea what the attendance was yesterday?  Would there be 5,000?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Deerstalker on October 16, 2023, 08:35:40 PM
Quote from: podge on October 16, 2023, 08:33:14 PMAny idea what the attendance was yesterday?  Would there be 5,000?

Aye probably around that, I read before I think capacity was 4500 but obviously with it not being all seater you can pack more in. Biggest crowd I have seen in Corrigan, club or county
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: MoChara on October 16, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 16, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 16, 2023, 09:58:16 AMPeople are missing the point.

Every county streams club games, Jerome doesn't give us anything that isn't available in any other county for their club games and he gets to monopolise ours.

Let him stream them, I don't care (I'm sure he's well renumerated) but that doesn't mean he needs to also do any of the talking or commentary, especially regarding hurling. My issue is with his complete lack of any knowledge or insight on commentary, he's a just a jumble of clichés.

Regarding the game. Loughgiel left that one behind them. The number of scores they coughed up and gifted Cushendall playing short out of defence cost them.  That wouldn't have been as much of an issue on the bigger pitch in Ballycastle.

If the game had gone on another few minutes loughgiel would have won.  Cushendall may well have the size physically for slaughtneil but I don't think they have the fitness and mobility to maintain the intensity required to beat them.

If, if Cushendall beat the Down champions, the final will probably be Armagh.



I thought Armagh would be the likely venue for the semi, not sure that would affect the final venue
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on October 16, 2023, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 16, 2023, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 16, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: Oso on October 16, 2023, 09:58:16 AMPeople are missing the point.

Every county streams club games, Jerome doesn't give us anything that isn't available in any other county for their club games and he gets to monopolise ours.

Let him stream them, I don't care (I'm sure he's well renumerated) but that doesn't mean he needs to also do any of the talking or commentary, especially regarding hurling. My issue is with his complete lack of any knowledge or insight on commentary, he's a just a jumble of clichés.

Regarding the game. Loughgiel left that one behind them. The number of scores they coughed up and gifted Cushendall playing short out of defence cost them.  That wouldn't have been as much of an issue on the bigger pitch in Ballycastle.

If the game had gone on another few minutes loughgiel would have won.  Cushendall may well have the size physically for slaughtneil but I don't think they have the fitness and mobility to maintain the intensity required to beat them.

If, if Cushendall beat the Down champions, the final will probably be Armagh.



I thought Armagh would be the likely venue for the semi, not sure that would affect the final venue

The semi is in Armagh on the 19th November.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: DearyMe on October 20, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
Is there a new county manager? Or does Gleeson remain?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on October 20, 2023, 03:15:51 PM
As far as I have heard it remains the same as last year.

Now that the gym is nearly ready in Dunsilly  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2023, 03:39:34 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 20, 2023, 03:15:51 PMAs far as I have heard it remains the same as last year.

Now that the gym is nearly ready in Dunsilly  ;)

Was there on Tuesday night, looks like it won't be long before its up and ready.. I'm hoping for free membership  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 22, 2023, 04:31:42 PM
Glenariffe/Glenravel look to have won the U-19 final handy enough against the Town. Was there much merit in this competition ?

Dunloy held back several minors in the semi v Glenariffe/Glenravel with the minor final a few days later. I assume Loughgiel did the same v Ballycastle ?

Just not sure there is room in the calendar for it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 22, 2023, 04:34:54 PM
Dunloy didn't hold back the minors. Rules and regulations meant they couldn't play so close to the minor game on the Saturday.

Madness but hey ho. Is what it is
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 23, 2023, 11:34:47 AM
I believe the winners of this 'Championship' played one single league game at this age group. The beaten finalists, two. We lose the greatest proportion of players during the progression from juvenile hurling into senior. U19 championship does little to address the problem. U21 was treated with similar disdain.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 23, 2023, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: UppaSaffs on October 22, 2023, 04:34:54 PMDunloy didn't hold back the minors. Rules and regulations meant they couldn't play so close to the minor game on the Saturday.

Madness but hey ho. Is what it is

What rules are they?

Is there a rule in Antrim preventing kids from playing two days in a row?

Not having a go, genuinely interested to find out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hectic on October 23, 2023, 12:04:30 PM
U19 looks to have been a pretty complete championship unless you have a preference for group stages as well.

But all games from quarter final through seem to have been completed.

Appreciate Dunloy didn't play their minors - would many of them have started? In my head I am thinking if missing more senior players would have been a bigger problem.  But they were well beaten in the semi final.

Maybe the lack of at least one from Dunloy, Cushendall or Loughgeil in the final is what devalues the competition in the eyes of some? 

Can't be a competition if one of them didn't win😂
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 23, 2023, 01:16:09 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 23, 2023, 12:04:30 PMU19 looks to have been a pretty complete championship unless you have a preference for group stages as well.

But all games from quarter final through seem to have been completed.

Appreciate Dunloy didn't play their minors - would many of them have started? In my head I am thinking if missing more senior players would have been a bigger problem.  But they were well beaten in the semi final.

Maybe the lack of at least one from Dunloy, Cushendall or Loughgeil in the final is what devalues the competition in the eyes of some? 

Can't be a competition if one of them didn't win😂

They had 6 starters missing from the u19 team. Glenariffe/Glenravel would probably have been too strong but it would have been a closer contest.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 23, 2023, 01:17:45 PM
It's not that they didn't play their u17s, they actually couldn't. Rules and regulations prohibited them playing in championship of separate age groups in same week
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 23, 2023, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: UppaSaffs on October 23, 2023, 01:17:45 PMIt's not that they didn't play their u17s, they actually couldn't. Rules and regulations prohibited them playing in championship of separate age groups in same week

Are these rules Antrim byelaws?

I don't think there's anything in the official guide in relation to this.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 23, 2023, 03:13:45 PM
Are these not the same rules that impacted the ulster u20 football last year where Derry lost out on I think 2 players but down took the hit and played them?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 23, 2023, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2023, 03:13:45 PMAre these not the same rules that impacted the ulster u20 football last year where Derry lost out on I think 2 players but down took the hit and played them?

No, that was a rule that if you played IC Senior championship you couldn't play U20 IC championship.

It impacted a few Cork and Limerick hurlers over the last few years.

I don't believe that rule is transferrable to the club championships unless Antrim have adopted them as bye laws which is their right to do so if they want.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on October 23, 2023, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: Hectic on October 23, 2023, 12:04:30 PMU19 looks to have been a pretty complete championship unless you have a preference for group stages as well.

But all games from quarter final through seem to have been completed.

Appreciate Dunloy didn't play their minors - would many of them have started? In my head I am thinking if missing more senior players would have been a bigger problem.  But they were well beaten in the semi final.

Maybe the lack of at least one from Dunloy, Cushendall or Loughgeil in the final is what devalues the competition in the eyes of some? 

Can't be a competition if one of them didn't win😂

It's great for the local game to have fresh competition. Beneficial to have a greater variety of clubs competing. Even more so when it is a smaller club doing so.

The age group has always been devalued as far back as I can remember.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: UppaSaffs on October 23, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 23, 2023, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2023, 03:13:45 PMAre these not the same rules that impacted the ulster u20 football last year where Derry lost out on I think 2 players but down took the hit and played them?

No, that was a rule that if you played IC Senior championship you couldn't play U20 IC championship.

It impacted a few Cork and Limerick hurlers over the last few years.

I don't believe that rule is transferrable to the club championships unless Antrim have adopted them as bye laws which is their right to do so if they want.



It is fact. I'm 100% certain of this. I know the Dunloy lads and management, was at the game and asked the question. Regulations stopped them from playing both competitions in the same week. They played in the earlier round against St Paul's.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on October 23, 2023, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 23, 2023, 03:46:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 23, 2023, 03:13:45 PMAre these not the same rules that impacted the ulster u20 football last year where Derry lost out on I think 2 players but down took the hit and played them?

No, that was a rule that if you played IC Senior championship you couldn't play U20 IC championship.

It impacted a few Cork and Limerick hurlers over the last few years.

I don't believe that rule is transferrable to the club championships unless Antrim have adopted them as bye laws which is their right to do so if they want.


The only rule that I'm aware off , is an u17 can't play Senior.
Under 19
- Club - Be Under 19 years and Over 15 years
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on October 30, 2023, 03:34:39 PM
Tony McGrath of Dunloy RIP

I can still see that equalising point against Rossa in Loughgiel in the drawn county final in 1990

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 30, 2023, 03:49:21 PM
Ah that's very sad - can't have been that old either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on October 30, 2023, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 30, 2023, 03:49:21 PMAh that's very sad - can't have been that old either.

Would he even be 60?

Very sad news that, marked him a few times in my younger days, hard but fair, fine hurler .
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2023, 07:11:18 PM
Sad times got the club, a proper no nonsense hurler. Started a legacy for the club that runs through to today and beyond.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 01, 2023, 08:35:47 PM
Leinster championship fixtures released, not that you would know on Antrim Twitter  ::)

Wexford, Galway & Carlow at home, two winnable games there
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 01, 2023, 08:35:47 PMLeinster championship fixtures released, not that you would know on Antrim Twitter  ::)

Wexford, Galway & Carlow at home, two winnable games there

Not on Twitter but did see it on other social media sites..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 04, 2023, 11:08:23 AM
Good luck to our hurlers in ulster this weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: scamroc on November 04, 2023, 01:54:37 PM
Does anyone know if u18's have been decoupled from senior next season, or can they play in their last year at minor like it used to be?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 05, 2023, 04:31:21 PM
Good to get across the line today with a 1 point victory for our lads in ulster!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2023, 08:18:21 AM
That's a good win. Some turnaround from league form. Hopefully go on and win it now.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 06, 2023, 09:13:15 AM
I think there will be tougher tests ahead for Creggan. Intermediate is strong.

Cloughmills disappointing. Tactically very very poor, two late goals glossed the scoreline
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 06, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
Creggan should be too good for Carrickmore who dogged out a result against Lisbellaw who didnt kick on when they were leading. They hit a lot of wides.

Fair play to Carrickmore in that they kept fighting on a heavy pitch and eventually went into the lead with 5 minutes left. All square at the end of normal time and 1-1 from Carrickmore in a minute during extra time knocked the challenge out of Lisbellaw.

Creggan would be a better hurling team but a heavy sod would be a leveller as Carrickmore would be a dogged outfit. However with Conor McCann back from serious injury he's playing excellent hurling and might be making up for lost time after such a long lay off.

Id fancy Creggan to progress to the final and Middletown to beat Setanta who beat an out of sorts Ballinascreen.

Setanta captain suspended for the semi final after getting a stupid red card in the last minute with his team well ahead. Screen didnt help themselves either with 2 red cards earlier and they were chasing the game after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 06, 2023, 11:55:45 AM
Are the county back? Any new faces or anyone opting out?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 06, 2023, 12:07:21 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 06, 2023, 10:22:53 AMCreggan should be too good for Carrickmore who dogged out a result against Lisbellaw who didnt kick on when they were leading. They hit a lot of wides.

Fair play to Carrickmore in that they kept fighting on a heavy pitch and eventually went into the lead with 5 minutes left. All square at the end of normal time and 1-1 from Carrickmore in a minute during extra time knocked the challenge out of Lisbellaw.

Creggan would be a better hurling team but a heavy sod would be a leveller as Carrickmore would be a dogged outfit. However with Conor McCann back from serious injury he's playing excellent hurling and might be making up for lost time after such a long lay off.

Id fancy Creggan to progress to the final and Middletown to beat Setanta who beat an out of sorts Ballinascreen.

Setanta captain suspended for the semi final after getting a stupid red card in the last minute with his team well ahead. Screen didnt help themselves either with 2 red cards earlier and they were chasing the game after that.


I don't think a heavy pitch would bother Creggan too much. A lot of big strong lads in that team who can go into the trenches too. It's probably what got them past Cushendun in the semis. Well capable of that side of it and a scorer like Conor McCann will always give you a shot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 06, 2023, 01:12:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 06, 2023, 12:07:21 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 06, 2023, 10:22:53 AMCreggan should be too good for Carrickmore who dogged out a result against Lisbellaw who didnt kick on when they were leading. They hit a lot of wides.

Fair play to Carrickmore in that they kept fighting on a heavy pitch and eventually went into the lead with 5 minutes left. All square at the end of normal time and 1-1 from Carrickmore in a minute during extra time knocked the challenge out of Lisbellaw.

Creggan would be a better hurling team but a heavy sod would be a leveller as Carrickmore would be a dogged outfit. However with Conor McCann back from serious injury he's playing excellent hurling and might be making up for lost time after such a long lay off.

Id fancy Creggan to progress to the final and Middletown to beat Setanta who beat an out of sorts Ballinascreen.

Setanta captain suspended for the semi final after getting a stupid red card in the last minute with his team well ahead. Screen didnt help themselves either with 2 red cards earlier and they were chasing the game after that.


I don't think a heavy pitch would bother Creggan too much. A lot of big strong lads in that team who can go into the trenches too. It's probably what got them past Cushendun in the semis. Well capable of that side of it and a scorer like Conor McCann will always give you a shot.


A heavy, soft pitch is going to reduce the capability of a fast jab lift which will result in a lot of roll lifting and slowing the game resulting in a lot of rucks. There's a massive difference in fast hurling on a dry sod in June / July and winter hurling on a heavy pitch in November. 2 different games where fitness comes into it.

Creggan's fast paced game will be reduced as a result plus Creggan are a lot more than the Conor McCann show. The brother Tommy Og has a mighty paw on him and a great strike and Oran in the half forwards is a major contributor. The Nelson lad appears to have steeped up to the mark in the forward line this season as well.

The heavy pitch will suit Carrickmore more in that they wouldn't have as much hurling as Creggan but they're well capable of mixing it and have several county players who know where the posts are. However I expect Creggan to come out on top. 

Match could be at a Derry venue. Owenbeg or Celtic Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 06, 2023, 06:19:30 PM
Have Creggan played yet in Ulster series?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 06, 2023, 06:21:37 PM
Yesterday beat Bredagh by a point...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on November 10, 2023, 09:12:02 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/hurlingandcamogie/2023/11/10/news/antrim_s_terence_mcnaughton_inducted_into_gaelic_writers_hall_of_fame-3763831/

Congrats to Terence. 👏👏👏
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on November 15, 2023, 03:30:11 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 06, 2023, 11:55:45 AMAre the county back? Any new faces or anyone opting out?

Heard theres been 5/6 regulars opt out however this stage of the year can always be just whispers
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 15, 2023, 03:36:36 PM
Heard they are back properly tonight. Heard a few of the Dunloy contingent are going down under and have opted out ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 15, 2023, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 15, 2023, 03:36:36 PMHeard they are back properly tonight. Heard a few of the Dunloy contingent are going down under and have opted out ?

If so, that'd be a blow to Antrim in the upcoming National League.

1. Need these players to consolidate in division.

2. Need them and a few others in to push on a bit.

Without them (dependent on who'll not be there), it'll be difficult for Gleeson.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 15, 2023, 05:18:25 PM
Also the first year without McManus on the pitch or in the dressing room. Minus the likes of Burke, Campbell etc who are the more experienced
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2023, 12:52:00 PM
Cushendall should have too much problems at the weekend, Ports will put it up to them for large parts of the first and early second half but expect Cushendall to pull away and win by 5 or 6 points

Creggan will get it tough again, none of their games have been easy this year, which means they are defo battle hardened, also McCann is getting more games and getting sharper with each game

Hopefully both come through and set themselves up for a double for the county
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 17, 2023, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2023, 12:52:00 PMCushendall should have too much problems at the weekend, Ports will put it up to them for large parts of the first and early second half but expect Cushendall to pull away and win by 5 or 6 points

Creggan will get it tough again, none of their games have been easy this year, which means they are defo battle hardened, also McCann is getting more games and getting sharper with each game

Hopefully both come through and set themselves up for a double for the county

Cushendall have been a fruitful hunting ground for the Ards teams in the Ulster championship, but yes Cushendall are hot favourites alright, but if I was in the Portaferry changing room I'd be telling them to go full bore from the get go and see how Cushendall respond. Ports are weak enough mentally and the conversation I had with one of their selectors recently hasn't changed my mind on that. They seem happy with a Down championship, a common theme in Portaferry over the years rather than kick on for a go at Ulster. I never got that, it's a two/three horse race in Down FFS.
They downed tools quickly last year vrs Slaughtneil, I'd hope they don't do the same this weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 17, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
That's nice!

Ruín 3

Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that all Phase one games (i.e. first round) of league competitions shall be played within County Antrim.
In line with normal procedure, any application to change the fixtures shall be subject to CCC approval and agreement of both clubs.


What's this about?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 17, 2023, 06:09:36 PM
Down teams up the road every week.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on November 17, 2023, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 17, 2023, 03:56:33 PMThat's nice!

Ruín 3

Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that all Phase one games (i.e. first round) of league competitions shall be played within County Antrim.
In line with normal procedure, any application to change the fixtures shall be subject to CCC approval and agreement of both clubs.


What's this about?

Controversial ....

From an NE point of view and to be devils advocate...

Div 1 has been almost impossible for any promoted team to crack, the more antrim teams able to compete in div 1 and a competitive pathway to div 1 is only going to develop antrim hurling.

If anything can be done to further develop antrim clubs at the top tier then it should at least be considered.

Understand this may not sit well and may be seen as unfair to the Ards teams but if it strengthens antrim hurling that should be the primary aim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Two Hands FFS on November 18, 2023, 09:46:16 AM
Embarrassing

What if the Leinster Council made Antrim travel to play all the matches in the group stages in Leinster?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on November 18, 2023, 10:28:57 AM
#1 that would be Leinster councils perogative if they chose to do so

#2 slightly different in that its an overall GAA structure. If antrim objected to that then the GAA would have to restructure to offer a pathway to the liam McCarthy

Either way and i know this will be unpopular but if Antrim replaced the Down teams with 3 top teams from Div 2 it would create a split in Div 1 however you would have the top teams competing to win. A group of 4/5 teams battling against relegation all the while avoiding the yoyo effect many teams have encountered.

Youd also have more antrim players exposed to Div 1 hurling and a platform to perform and perhaps make the county squad
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2023, 01:22:56 PM
I'm not sure what the benefits are with regards to not traveling to Portaferry
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Old Time Hurler on November 18, 2023, 03:32:34 PM
Can someone please post any County convention motions or proposals for us all to get a look at?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:38:05 PM
1. The Leinster Hurling championship to be increased from 6 Counties to 10
Counties incorporating the Joe McDonagh Cup and split into 2 groups (5
Counties in each group) and played on a round robin basis. Each group to be
seeded according to the individual counties' placings in the previous year's
Leinster/Joe McDonagh Cup.
The 1st placed Counties in each group play the 2nd placed Counties in the other
group in the semi finals of the Leinster Hurling Championship.
The winners of the Leinster Championship qualify for the semi finals of the Liam
McCarthy Cup.
The beaten finalists quality for quarter finals of the Qualifiers.
The beaten semi finals play off in a preliminary quarter final.
The 3rd placed counties in each group qualify for the semi finals of the Joe
McDonagh Cup.
The 4th placed counties in each group play the 5th placed counties in the other
group in the quarter finals of the Joe McDonagh Cup with the winners playing
the 3rd placed counties in the semi finals.
The beaten quarter final counties play off with the losers relegated to the Christy
Ring Cup.
In the inception year the top four placed counties from the previous years Joe
McDonagh Cup would qualify for the NEW Leinster Hurling Championship with
the two bottom counties participating in the Christy Ring Cup.
Glen Rovers,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:39:03 PM
Motion 7
Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that prior to the commencement of league
competitions (Antrim GAA), all and any participants (i.e., counties including and
not limited to; Ard Mhacha, An Dún, Doire & Tír Eoghain), to provide a graded
list of county players that shall not be eligible for phase one games.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:40:00 PM
Motion 8

Naomh Eoin propose an amendment to the eligibility rule in Minor (U18) to allow
a player who celebrates his 17th birthday prior to January 1 of the championship
year (therefore last year minor) be allowed to play all Junior, Intermediate and
Senior adult league and championship games in both football and hurling."
St John
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:40:49 PM
Motion 9
With Minor hurling being returned to U18, players in their last year of Minor Hurling
are eligible to play Senior grade or at least senior grade Championship.
Ruairi Og
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:41:38 PM
Recommendation
Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that all phase one games (i.e., first round) of
league competitions shall be played within County Antrim.
In line with normal procedure, any application to change the fixtures shall be
subject to CCC approval and agreement of both clubs.
Naomh Eanna
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:42:14 PM
Rec.4
Over the past years a significant number of Minor games have been scheduled
for Sunday mornings.
O Donnells would recommend that the County Board examines the opportunity
of scheduling Tuesday or Thursday midweek for minor games as when the
season starts their college games will be over.
Cardinal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 18, 2023, 11:05:51 PM
Creggan poor enough today I heard.

Conceded a load of goals in first half.

Be interesting to see how Cushendall go tomorrow. Heavy pitch might suit them. Portaferry need to stick in the game to half-time at least and build from there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 19, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:39:03 PMMotion 7
Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that prior to the commencement of league
competitions (Antrim GAA), all and any participants (i.e., counties including and
not limited to; Ard Mhacha, An Dún, Doire & Tír Eoghain), to provide a graded
list of county players that shall not be eligible for phase one games.


Ah OK I get this. Different counties have different rules regarding county hurlers. St endas hurling with 2 of Their stronger hurlers while the down lads are maybe allowed to hurl the sunday after representing down on the Saturday
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 19, 2023, 11:09:27 PM
Cushendall made hard work of it today against Portaferry but eventually got over the line. McManus and young McLaughlin the heroes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on November 19, 2023, 11:12:53 PM
Wonder where the Ulster final will be - back to Armagh?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 12:33:50 AM
Quote from: BrendanAntrim on November 19, 2023, 11:12:53 PMWonder where the Ulster final will be - back to Armagh?

I'd be surprised if it's not Armagh.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 07:38:48 AM
Mcmanus with possibly one of his best games for Cushendall?. Stood up when it mattered most. Plaudits to mclaughlin too but my god Neil pulled them back from the dead
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 20, 2023, 08:18:32 AM
Why was there only 5 portaferry men on the line with the keeper, is that rule for all fouls? I thought it was just for technical fouls
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:04:14 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 20, 2023, 08:18:32 AMWhy was there only 5 portaferry men on the line with the keeper, is that rule for all fouls? I thought it was just for technical fouls

They possibly thought it was a 21 yard / 20 metre free where 5 defenders are allowed on the goal line.

However I dont think the foul was committed on the 21, a metre or so off it.

Portaferry would have been permitted to pack their goal line with more than 5 players if that was the case.

A bit like Na Piarsaigh when they played Loughgiel a few years ago and Liam Watson drilled it past a packed goal line.

There was a score for Portaferry where the umpire waved it as a wide. Ref went in to check as he may have had the same opinion it was a score, but the umpire was adamant. I was sure it was a score as did the commentary team.

Id say Portaferry were reminded about last years semi final v Slaughtneil where they hurled for the first 10 minutes and dunged the togs as Slaughtneil moved through the gears.

They came out yesterday and took the game to Cushendall from the start. They were the better team in normal time and Neil McManus did get Cushendall out of jail - but what a performance from him.

Extra time and Cushendall switched into championship mode  to over run the Ports who had really emptied the tank.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:08:05 AM
Final will be in Armagh, either the Athletic Grounds or Pairc Esler, most of which is in Co Armagh  8)  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 20, 2023, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:04:14 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 20, 2023, 08:18:32 AMWhy was there only 5 portaferry men on the line with the keeper, is that rule for all fouls? I thought it was just for technical fouls

They possibly thought it was a 21 yard / 20 metre free where 5 defenders are allowed on the goal line.

However I dont think the foul was committed on the 21, a metre or so off it.

Portaferry would have been permitted to pack their goal line with more than 5 players if that was the case.

A bit like Na Piarsaigh when they played Loughgiel a few years ago and Liam Watson drilled it past a packed goal line.

There was a score for Portaferry where the umpire waved it as a wide. Ref went in to check as he may have had the same opinion it was a score, but the umpire was adamant. I was sure it was a score as did the commentary team.

Id say Portaferry were reminded about last years semi final v Slaughtneil where they hurled for the first 10 minutes and dunged the togs as Slaughtneil moved through the gears.

They came out yesterday and took the game to Cushendall from the start. They were the better team in normal time and Neil McManus did get Cushendall out of jail - but what a performance from him.

Extra time and Cushendall switched into championship mode  to over run the Ports who had really emptied the tank.

Ports had emptied the tank in ordinary time, quite a few down with cramp in injury time giving young McLaughlin that bit more time and space he needed to fire over the scores in junk time as the yanks would call it.

Eoghan Sands was a big loss to the Ports, he's their go to forward and a lot of their scores come through him.

The Dall keeper will be sleeping much easier than he'd have expected to be.

McManus showed that bit of cuteness to get himself that bit of time and space to get shots off that most others on the park lacked.
He'll have it all to do in two weeks time and the SN defence will be much, much tighter in all senses of that word.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:16:15 AM
Quote from: saffman on November 17, 2023, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 17, 2023, 03:56:33 PMThat's nice!

Ruín 3

Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that all Phase one games (i.e. first round) of league competitions shall be played within County Antrim.
In line with normal procedure, any application to change the fixtures shall be subject to CCC approval and agreement of both clubs.


What's this about?

Controversial ....

From an NE point of view and to be devils advocate...

Div 1 has been almost impossible for any promoted team to crack, the more antrim teams able to compete in div 1 and a competitive pathway to div 1 is only going to develop antrim hurling.

If anything can be done to further develop antrim clubs at the top tier then it should at least be considered.

Understand this may not sit well and may be seen as unfair to the Ards teams but if it strengthens antrim hurling that should be the primary aim

Antrim are not going to mess with the Division 1 set up with regards to the Ards clubs.

The facts are that Antrim needs the Ards clubs as much as the Ards teams need to be hurling in Antrim.

Without the Ards teams in Div 1, the standard and competitiveness drops. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 20, 2023, 09:26:45 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 19, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:39:03 PMMotion 7
Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that prior to the commencement of league
competitions (Antrim GAA), all and any participants (i.e., counties including and
not limited to; Ard Mhacha, An Dún, Doire & Tír Eoghain), to provide a graded
list of county players that shall not be eligible for phase one games.


Ah OK I get this. Different counties have different rules regarding county hurlers. St endas hurling with 2 of Their stronger hurlers while the down lads are maybe allowed to hurl the sunday after representing down on the Saturday

If they played on the Saturday they are not allowed to play on the Sunday in Down, trust me I know.
If they were an unused sub and county management agree to allow them to play for their club the next day then that's the only avenue for the above scenario.
We also had to contend with 5 or 6 U20's not being allowed to play for the club if they'd a game the following Saturday with the county board line being that the county management get first preference until they are out of all competitions, split season and all that.

Currently we'd have three or four county senior players at best, so we'd not really be impacted that much, but the likes of Portaferry and Ballycran would be out seven or eight players due to the Down panel being picked from much less clubs than Antrim.

Fair play to St Enda's, they've truly cemented themselves as a Div1 team within the old system(s) which they deem to be so unfair on them and yes, the trick is staying there and you'll only do that by blooding young lads at this level.
We've a bigger bone of contention with the U20 thing than with the senior exclusion list if the truth be told for this very reason. We need to blood the young fellas and get them up to speed in phase 1 and build from there.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 09:27:03 AM
Also from St Endas Point of view. I get the county player argument as different teams have different rules. But as for the 1st round games being played in County antrim. What difference is there travelling to Ballygalget or Ballycastle on a Wednesday evening? The county usually handle the midweek fixtures well re this. Although I do recall seeing a North antrim team travelling to derry City for a 6.30 throw in early last year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 20, 2023, 09:26:45 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 19, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on November 18, 2023, 03:39:03 PMMotion 7
Naomh Éanna CLG proposes that prior to the commencement of league
competitions (Antrim GAA), all and any participants (i.e., counties including and
not limited to; Ard Mhacha, An Dún, Doire & Tír Eoghain), to provide a graded
list of county players that shall not be eligible for phase one games.


Ah OK I get this. Different counties have different rules regarding county hurlers. St endas hurling with 2 of Their stronger hurlers while the down lads are maybe allowed to hurl the sunday after representing down on the Saturday

If they played on the Saturday they are not allowed to play on the Sunday in Down, trust me I know.
If they were an unused sub and county management agree to allow them to play for their club the next day then that's the only avenue for the above scenario.
We also had to contend with 5 or 6 U20's not being allowed to play for the club if they'd a game the following Saturday with the county board line being that the county management get first preference until they are out of all competitions, split season and all that.

Currently we'd have three or four county senior players at best, so we'd not really be impacted that much, but the likes of Portaferry and Ballycran would be out seven or eight players due to the Down panel being picked from much less clubs than Antrim.

Fair play to St Enda's, they've truly cemented themselves as a Div1 team within the old system(s) which they deem to be so unfair on them and yes, the trick is staying there and you'll only do that by blooding young lads at this level.
We've a bigger bone of contention with the U20 thing than with the senior exclusion list if the truth be told for this very reason. We need to blood the young fellas and get them up to speed in phase 1 and build from there.


Fair enough I thought they maybe could play. St endas have 2
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 09:27:03 AMAlso from St Endas Point of view. I get the county player argument as different teams have different rules. But as for the 1st round games being played in County antrim. What difference is there travelling to Ballygalget or Ballycastle on a Wednesday evening? The county usually handle the midweek fixtures well re this. Although I do recall seeing a North antrim team travelling to derry City for a 6.30 throw in early last year

Dont think that will happen this year. I think are Na Magha withdrawing from the Antrim leagues
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 09:37:45 AM
I felt Cushendall were starting to look comfortable early in the second half until they literally gave away a goal which lifted Portaferry when they looked done. The second mistake had Cushendall really chasing the game but thankfully Neil pulled another rabbit out of the hat.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 11:59:18 AM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 09:27:03 AMAlso from St Endas Point of view. I get the county player argument as different teams have different rules. But as for the 1st round games being played in County antrim. What difference is there travelling to Ballygalget or Ballycastle on a Wednesday evening? The county usually handle the midweek fixtures well re this. Although I do recall seeing a North antrim team travelling to derry City for a 6.30 throw in early last year

Dont think that will happen this year. I think are Na Magha withdrawing from the Antrim leagues

Would they get competitive games in derry?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 12:07:43 PM
That's a pity as they have been in it for years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 12:10:35 PM
Would that offer Gort na mona a lifeline or would it possibly promote ardoyne?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on November 20, 2023, 12:24:53 PM
Regards u20 players being unavailable i totally agree.

I believe players develop more playing div 1 than u20 county..

Ive watched u20 boys finish strongly with their club
Looks promising for the following season to push on...
Then they're not seen by their club cause of u20 county, dont properly integrate with the club until post split and almost have to go through the kickstart process again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on November 20, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 12:10:35 PMWould that offer Gort na mona a lifeline or would it possibly promote ardoyne?

You'd like to think that the team coming up would get the chance, I know Ardoyne have been pushing the county to let them go up a div. Chatting to a fella plays for them few weeks ago was saying they are going to Limerick for a junior b comp but they dont know who they play yet so they are clearly serious bout pushing on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 12:07:43 PMThat's a pity as they have been in it for years.

To be honest they haven't progressed much in close to 20 years playing in Antrim.

The season before last they were one point above relegation.

I think its the travelling that would be the issue.

Looks like they are going to play in the Derry league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 12:50:07 PM
I think there may be more midweek travel than there used to be. There was a boy who used to be a very prominent poster who seems to have disappeared now and he was in their setup - he seemed to be indicating that.

It would be tough logistically speaking to get a squad of players to a lot of antrim venues on a weeknight if you're coming from derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 01:29:27 PM
Dungannon didn't play in Antrim this year did they?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 01:35:40 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on November 20, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 12:10:35 PMWould that offer Gort na mona a lifeline or would it possibly promote ardoyne?

You'd like to think that the team coming up would get the chance, I know Ardoyne have been pushing the county to let them go up a div. Chatting to a fella plays for them few weeks ago was saying they are going to Limerick for a junior b comp but they dont know who they play yet so they are clearly serious bout pushing on

AFAIK antrim teams travel to this every year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2023, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 01:35:40 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on November 20, 2023, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 12:10:35 PMWould that offer Gort na mona a lifeline or would it possibly promote ardoyne?

You'd like to think that the team coming up would get the chance, I know Ardoyne have been pushing the county to let them go up a div. Chatting to a fella plays for them few weeks ago was saying they are going to Limerick for a junior b comp but they dont know who they play yet so they are clearly serious bout pushing on

AFAIK antrim teams travel to this every year

Held on the day and a great incentive for clubs at junior b level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 12:50:07 PMI think there may be more midweek travel than there used to be. There was a boy who used to be a very prominent poster who seems to have disappeared now and he was in their setup - he seemed to be indicating that.

It would be tough logistically speaking to get a squad of players to a lot of antrim venues on a weeknight if you're coming from derry.

I'm sure it's handy sorted refixing games to a weekend especially versus hurling only clubs though. Good road to travel now too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 20, 2023, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 20, 2023, 12:43:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 12:07:43 PMThat's a pity as they have been in it for years.

To be honest they haven't progressed much in close to 20 years playing in Antrim.

The season before last they were one point above relegation.

I think its the travelling that would be the issue.

Looks like they are going to play in the Derry league.

Well if they do opt out and it doesn't work I wouldn't like to think they'd jump back into division 3 the following season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 20, 2023, 01:56:55 PM
Well will Cushendall keep it pucked out to Slaughtneil or did they get the dirty diesel out of their system yesterday?

If Slaughtneil have maintained the same standards as last year then they'd go in as slight favourites IMO.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 02:13:56 PM
I don't see Cushendall beating Slaughtneil tbh. I do hope I am wrong. Cushendall have a physicality which is much better than a lot of teams in antrim but that won't be the same against Slaughtneil. It depends on how McManus is handled by Slaughneil I guess and then what Cushendall do with Rodgers. I think Cushendall have better defenders than anyone in ulster to handle Rodgers but there's a few other boys in there too and I am not convinced they have enough of a spread in the forwards. Again hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 20, 2023, 03:38:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 02:13:56 PMI don't see Cushendall beating Slaughtneil tbh. I do hope I am wrong. Cushendall have a physicality which is much better than a lot of teams in antrim but that won't be the same against Slaughtneil. It depends on how McManus is handled by Slaughneil I guess and then what Cushendall do with Rodgers. I think Cushendall have better defenders than anyone in ulster to handle Rodgers but there's a few other boys in there too and I am not convinced they have enough of a spread in the forwards. Again hope I am wrong.

I'd let Eoghan Campbell do a job on Rodgers, serious defender is Campbell, take Rodgers out and you seriously blunt Slaughtneil but they do have others.
If Rodgers starts to have a big impact in the game he'll not only bother the scoreboard but is good at bringing his teammates into the game as well.

McManus is going to be in for some serious treatment at the other end though, it won't be the kid gloves stuff Tom Murray was at yesterday either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2023, 04:17:57 PM
I don't think Campbell is a great man marker though - better ball playing CHB. I would suspect you'll see a Burke on Rodgers though which one would be the question.

Yeah McManus will get it tougher in this game. Be interesting to see who he's up against. I doubt McLaughlin will have seen close marking like it either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
I'd put Paddy Burke on Rodgers. Campbell got it tight against James McNaughton in the county final so I'd probably prefer to try something else. Either way though you're losing a bit going the other way by having one of them doing a man marking job.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 20, 2023, 06:35:11 PM
I can't see Cushendall beating Slaughtneil.  All yesterday proved is just how reliant Cushendall are on McManus.  He's a class act but he's lost more than a yard of pace these days (no shame) and Portaferry were dire at trying to curtail him.   

He had a poor enough county final but is still a threat from placed balls and there's no way he'll be afforded the same space and lack of physicality he enjoyed yesterday.  I think SN will win comfortably enough but McManus's placed balls will keep Cushendall in it for a while.

I don't see the point of playing Christy McNaughton, he doesn't have the mobility anymore and is too easy to play against. Some of those subs that came on for Cushendall yesterday must be scratching their head at that one and would threaten more with pace and running and mobility.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on November 20, 2023, 06:39:35 PM
A fine advert for Ulster hurling yesterday I thought.

I don't necessarily subscribe to the the theory that portaferry were the better team to be honest.  Cdall were well on top and the 2 sucker goals knocked the stuffing out of them and gave portaferry a boost towards a 10minute spell that they were certainly very impressive.

Of course when you score a 21 yard free with virtually the last shot of the game you have to count your lucky stars.

Credit to young McLaughlin, at the end he made a couple of very subtle but telling interventions in the tight tackles that led to McManus either getting the last point or the free for the goal.

Assuming the final will be in Armagh, yesterdays outting there will certainly stand to them big time.

I would have thought young McCollam must be pushing for  starting spot as he has been impressive when introduced in the last 2 games.  Maybe Paddy McGill will be pushing also. 

Anyone's game IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 01:29:27 PMDungannon didn't play in Antrim this year did they?

No. Opted out the season after the Damien Casey tragedy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 04:53:55 PMI'd put Paddy Burke on Rodgers. Campbell got it tight against James McNaughton in the county final so I'd probably prefer to try something else. Either way though you're losing a bit going the other way by having one of them doing a man marking job.

Cant see that happening.

Rodgers would drag his marker all over the pitch. If you watch Rodgers, he might have No 11 on his back but one minute he'd be in at full forward, next minute he'd be in at his own corner back position.

A bit like Danny Cullen of Setanta and Donegal if you have ever seen him hurl. Impossible to mark.

To put Paddy Burke to man mark Rodgers would leave a massive gap in the Cushendall full back line which would be exploited by Slaughtneil and you can bet Mickey McShane and Nander would be cute enough to have them do just that.

Id say Cushendall will go with the same defensive set up as the Portaferry match.

If Eoghan Campbell is detailed to man mark any Slaughtneil player, that takes away part of Cushendall's attacking threat, as a lot of ball out of defence goes through Eoghan Campbell who sets up several Cushendall attacks, although he was quiet during the Antrim final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 04:53:55 PMI'd put Paddy Burke on Rodgers. Campbell got it tight against James McNaughton in the county final so I'd probably prefer to try something else. Either way though you're losing a bit going the other way by having one of them doing a man marking job.

Cant see that happening.

Rodgers would drag his marker all over the pitch. If you watch Rodgers, he might have No 11 on his back but one minute he'd be in at full forward, next minute he'd be in at his own corner back position.

A bit like Danny Cullen of Setanta and Donegal if you have ever seen him hurl. Impossible to mark.

To put Paddy Burke to man mark Rodgers would leave a massive gap in the Cushendall full back line which would be exploited by Slaughtneil and you can bet Mickey McShane and Nander would be cute enough to have them do just that.

Id say Cushendall will go with the same defensive set up as the Portaferry match.

If Eoghan Campbell is detailed to man mark any Slaughtneil player, that takes away part of Cushendall's attacking threat, as a lot of ball out of defence goes through Eoghan Campbell who sets up several Cushendall attacks, although he was quiet during the Antrim final.

Regardless of the match ups, if Cushendall turn up and play the way they played on Sunday past, it is going to be a long afternoon.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
I only saw the goals they conceded on TG4 last night. You could nearly put 3 of them down as howlers - 2 definitely. You would hope that wouldn't happen again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 21, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 04:53:55 PMI'd put Paddy Burke on Rodgers. Campbell got it tight against James McNaughton in the county final so I'd probably prefer to try something else. Either way though you're losing a bit going the other way by having one of them doing a man marking job.

Cant see that happening.

Rodgers would drag his marker all over the pitch. If you watch Rodgers, he might have No 11 on his back but one minute he'd be in at full forward, next minute he'd be in at his own corner back position.

A bit like Danny Cullen of Setanta and Donegal if you have ever seen him hurl. Impossible to mark.

To put Paddy Burke to man mark Rodgers would leave a massive gap in the Cushendall full back line which would be exploited by Slaughtneil and you can bet Mickey McShane and Nander would be cute enough to have them do just that.

Id say Cushendall will go with the same defensive set up as the Portaferry match.

If Eoghan Campbell is detailed to man mark any Slaughtneil player, that takes away part of Cushendall's attacking threat, as a lot of ball out of defence goes through Eoghan Campbell who sets up several Cushendall attacks, although he was quiet during the Antrim final.

Regardless of the match ups, if Cushendall turn up and play the way they played on Sunday past, it is going to be a long afternoon.

True.

The Portaferry match will have given Cushendall the opportunity to have shaken a lot of rust from the undercarraige but if they play like that against Slaughtneil they'll be in for a tough shift.

I wonder how the long lay off will affect Slaughtneil. They never got out of second gear in the Derry final against Lynches. I suppose we wont know until throw in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 21, 2023, 12:34:13 PM
Paddy Burke to mark Rodgers for me. If he plays FF, fine, If he goes to half back, fine. Paddy will be comfortable at either end of the pitch either defending or putting the ball over the bar. Gillen and Marty burke with the cover of the half back line are well able for the rest. The question will be can Cushendall get the ball over the bar. Can McLaughlin get any space. McAteer, Delargy. Can McManus operate at the same level. S'neil will have serious legs, Cushendall need to match that with their team selection
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:37:14 PM
Who was Alex Delargy replacing on Sunday? Was it Niall McCormick? He was very good in the county final and would be a good guy to have there too.

Christy McNaughton is honestly one of if not the most skillful player I have seen from Antrim but unfortunately he just doesn't have the conditioning. He is still definitely a very useful boy to have around.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 21, 2023, 12:38:01 PM
As for S'Neil, they wont be sitting for 10 weeks playing in house games. County teams are back, club teams down south. I'd say they've made a few trips for games, been there done that wore the tshirt. Experienced side. Looking forward to a good game hopefully in good conditions(as possible)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 21, 2023, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:37:14 PMWho was Alex Delargy replacing on Sunday? Was it Niall McCormick? He was very good in the county final and would be a good guy to have there too.

Christy McNaughton is honestly one of if not the most skillful player I have seen from Antrim but unfortunately he just doesn't have the conditioning. He is still definitely a very useful boy to have around.

McCormick and Christy dropped out for Delargy and McAfee
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
i thought that with Christy but I couldn't see McCormick even on the subs that came on so wondered was he injured.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 21, 2023, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 12:16:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 21, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 11:43:35 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 20, 2023, 04:53:55 PMI'd put Paddy Burke on Rodgers. Campbell got it tight against James McNaughton in the county final so I'd probably prefer to try something else. Either way though you're losing a bit going the other way by having one of them doing a man marking job.

Cant see that happening.

Rodgers would drag his marker all over the pitch. If you watch Rodgers, he might have No 11 on his back but one minute he'd be in at full forward, next minute he'd be in at his own corner back position.

A bit like Danny Cullen of Setanta and Donegal if you have ever seen him hurl. Impossible to mark.

To put Paddy Burke to man mark Rodgers would leave a massive gap in the Cushendall full back line which would be exploited by Slaughtneil and you can bet Mickey McShane and Nander would be cute enough to have them do just that.

Id say Cushendall will go with the same defensive set up as the Portaferry match.

If Eoghan Campbell is detailed to man mark any Slaughtneil player, that takes away part of Cushendall's attacking threat, as a lot of ball out of defence goes through Eoghan Campbell who sets up several Cushendall attacks, although he was quiet during the Antrim final.

Regardless of the match ups, if Cushendall turn up and play the way they played on Sunday past, it is going to be a long afternoon.

True.

The Portaferry match will have given Cushendall the opportunity to have shaken a lot of rust from the undercarraige but if they play like that against Slaughtneil they'll be in for a tough shift.

I wonder how the long lay off will affect Slaughtneil. They never got out of second gear in the Derry final against Lynches. I suppose we wont know until throw in.

Normally I would agree but thinking back to last year you would have thought Sneill  v Portaferry in Ulster semi was a good tune up for them before Dunloy and it was advantageous to have that extra game but I thought they were really rusty in Ulster final. Missed pick ups, handling errors etc.

I would say we will know within 10 mins what way the layoff has affected them but I'm sure they have been busy enough & I expect a really big performance from Slaughneil 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:47:53 PMi thought that with Christy but I couldn't see McCormick even on the subs that came on so wondered was he injured.

Is he not in Canada ???
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:37:14 PMWho was Alex Delargy replacing on Sunday? Was it Niall McCormick? He was very good in the county final and would be a good guy to have there too.

Christy McNaughton is honestly one of if not the most skillful player I have seen from Antrim but unfortunately he just doesn't have the conditioning. He is still definitely a very useful boy to have around.

Jaysus, he has some set of wrists.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 02:12:25 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:47:53 PMi thought that with Christy but I couldn't see McCormick even on the subs that came on so wondered was he injured.

Is he not in Canada ???

That would explain it. You wouldn't have dropped him after county final as he was fantastic.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2023, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:37:14 PMWho was Alex Delargy replacing on Sunday? Was it Niall McCormick? He was very good in the county final and would be a good guy to have there too.

Christy McNaughton is honestly one of if not the most skillful player I have seen from Antrim but unfortunately he just doesn't have the conditioning. He is still definitely a very useful boy to have around.

Jaysus, he has some set of wrists.

Must have missed them on Sunday  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 04:22:57 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 21, 2023, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on November 21, 2023, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 12:37:14 PMWho was Alex Delargy replacing on Sunday? Was it Niall McCormick? He was very good in the county final and would be a good guy to have there too.

Christy McNaughton is honestly one of if not the most skillful player I have seen from Antrim but unfortunately he just doesn't have the conditioning. He is still definitely a very useful boy to have around.

Jaysus, he has some set of wrists.

Must have missed them on Sunday  :o

;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 04:24:27 PM
Tough crowd  ;D

Final December 3rd Newry.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 21, 2023, 04:24:27 PMTough crowd  ;D

Final December 3rd Newry.

On the doorstep of both teams that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 21, 2023, 05:50:33 PM
I Heard Armagh is booked for something else so probably the best neutral option.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PM
Toss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 09:07:36 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 21, 2023, 05:50:33 PMI Heard Armagh is booked for something else so probably the best neutral option.

Pairc Esler, the new home of Ulster hurling.  ;D

Parking is tight in Newry in the run up to Christmas, but the Canal Court does a fine carvery lunch

Colour clash as well, what happened the last time they played?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2023, 09:25:13 AM
Either away strip or county colours
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.

Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:27:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2023, 09:25:13 AMEither away strip or county colours

I think S'Neil have a white jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jimmy on November 22, 2023, 10:51:32 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 09:07:36 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 21, 2023, 05:50:33 PMI Heard Armagh is booked for something else so probably the best neutral option.

Pairc Esler, the new home of Ulster hurling.  ;D

Parking is tight in Newry in the run up to Christmas, but the Canal Court does a fine carvery lunch

Colour clash as well, what happened the last time they played?

Slaughtneil's main hurling top is white and maroon hoops. Predominantly white.

Link from last game shows they were ok wearing it;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/34632201
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 22, 2023, 12:14:31 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


Most of the same stewards are on the loose in Corrigan as well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 22, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 22, 2023, 12:14:31 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


Most of the same stewards are on the loose in Corrigan as well

Stewards in Athletics are very serious about not letting young children on the pitch at half-time.

Always giving out.  Worst pitch ever for doing that.

Let the young lads puck/kick about for 10 mins.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 22, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 22, 2023, 12:14:31 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


Most of the same stewards are on the loose in Corrigan as well

Stewards in Athletics are very serious about not letting young children on the pitch at half-time.

Always giving out.  Worst pitch ever for doing that.

Let the young lads puck/kick about for 10 mins.

Agree, and its great to see
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I get your point obviously. But im sure now if you were playing a north antrim team in an ulster final, given the choice of casement or athletic grounds(poor pitch) or owenbeg(wore done this time of the year) you take the belfast venue

The "new" casement will be like a neutral venue as i cant see it being widely available for antrim club games

Id love to see 1st year opened every club in antrim getting the chance to play on it. We've waited too long
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
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Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I get your point obviously. But im sure now if you were playing a north antrim team in an ulster final, given the choice of casement or athletic grounds(poor pitch) or owenbeg(wore done this time of the year) you take the belfast venue

The "new" casement will be like a neutral venue as i cant see it being widely available for antrim club games

Id love to see 1st year opened every club in antrim getting the chance to play on it. We've waited too long

Showing my age here, but there used to be a home and away arrangement in place.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 23, 2023, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.

Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I'm going to disagree with you there. There isn't a hurler in Ireland would have turned down the chance to hurl on the casement surface. Down and Derry teams were well accustomed to playing there so it was familiar and it was still always a big deal for Antrim club teams to play there.   If you're going to turn down the opportunity of hurling on casement, as it was, in favour of Newry or Armagh or Owenbeg then it's not the pitch that's the advantage, it's getting found out on the ideal hurling pitch that's your concern.

The days of home and away at club grounds are gone, this is supposed to showcase the best of ulster club hurling (in November/December very few pitches are ideal).  Bringing teams competing at this stage to a less than ideal pitch which merely serves as a leveller just shouldnt apply.  The Gaelic grounds surface for Ballygunner and Na Piarsiagh at the weekend looked immaculate.

I take your point regarding the stewards and agree entirely, found many of them to be obnoxious all the while letting their pals from West Belfast in without paying. Some people can't help themselves, desperate for a little authority and ultimately just an embarassment.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on November 23, 2023, 09:01:20 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I get your point obviously. But im sure now if you were playing a north antrim team in an ulster final, given the choice of casement or athletic grounds(poor pitch) or owenbeg(wore done this time of the year) you take the belfast venue

The "new" casement will be like a neutral venue as i cant see it being widely available for antrim club games

Id love to see 1st year opened every club in antrim getting the chance to play on it. We've waited too long

Showing my age here, but there used to be a home and away arrangement in place.

Remember Ballygalget playing The Town in Ballycastle way back in the day, so there would have been some sort of arrangement.

When it came to hurling the Ulster Council never gave a monkeys - the same exists today.

Any club / county championship match would have been fixed for Casement Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 23, 2023, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 23, 2023, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.

Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I'm going to disagree with you there. There isn't a hurler in Ireland would have turned down the chance to hurl on the casement surface. Down and Derry teams were well accustomed to playing there so it was familiar and it was still always a big deal for Antrim club teams to play there.   If you're going to turn down the opportunity of hurling on casement, as it was, in favour of Newry or Armagh or Owenbeg then it's not the pitch that's the advantage, it's getting found out on the ideal hurling pitch that's your concern.

The days of home and away at club grounds are gone, this is supposed to showcase the best of ulster club hurling (in November/December very few pitches are ideal).  Bringing teams competing at this stage to a less than ideal pitch which merely serves as a leveller just shouldnt apply.  The Gaelic grounds surface for Ballygunner and Na Piarsiagh at the weekend looked immaculate.

I take your point regarding the stewards and agree entirely, found many of them to be obnoxious all the while letting their pals from West Belfast in without paying. Some people can't help themselves, desperate for a little authority and ultimately just an embarassment.

seen a gate onto the andytown road opened manys a time to let 4 or 5 in at a time without paying
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on November 23, 2023, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 23, 2023, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.

Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I'm going to disagree with you there. There isn't a hurler in Ireland would have turned down the chance to hurl on the casement surface. Down and Derry teams were well accustomed to playing there so it was familiar and it was still always a big deal for Antrim club teams to play there.   If you're going to turn down the opportunity of hurling on casement, as it was, in favour of Newry or Armagh or Owenbeg then it's not the pitch that's the advantage, it's getting found out on the ideal hurling pitch that's your concern.

The days of home and away at club grounds are gone, this is supposed to showcase the best of ulster club hurling (in November/December very few pitches are ideal).  Bringing teams competing at this stage to a less than ideal pitch which merely serves as a leveller just shouldnt apply.  The Gaelic grounds surface for Ballygunner and Na Piarsiagh at the weekend looked immaculate.

I take your point regarding the stewards and agree entirely, found many of them to be obnoxious all the while letting their pals from West Belfast in without paying. Some people can't help themselves, desperate for a little authority and ultimately just an embarassment.

You can disagree with me all that you like, I've played on plenty of Down teams, club and county that have been treated abysmally in Casement and the great surface wasn't always the case as we'd played Dunloy in an Ulster semi-final there and they'd obviously just vertidrained the pitch that week and there was loads of surface sand which prevented the ball from bouncing. Dunloy were far superior on the day, so can't say the pitch ultimately played a part in the result but the game should not have been played there.
Also,
Down had repeatedly asked for access to the pitch in the lead up to the Ulster finals and access was only granted once in my time with them whilst we knew Antrim were training on it regularly.
It was far from a neutral venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 23, 2023, 06:14:35 PM
Casement was/is always going to favour Antrim.

Similar to CP and Dublin.

I think it's only fair stewards get in free but opening a gate for their mates to walk straight in people who have passes etc. is a joke.

Reminds me of The 2 Johnnies sketch of the lads who turn up at the gate looking in for free. Quite funny, but true.

Stewards in Armagh annoy me. I've been there a few times over the past few years and they're always hunting a handful of young lads off the pitch at half-time. These days they should be getting as many young lads and lassies on the pitch to run about! 

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2023, 09:06:55 PM
I've been to many grounds over the years.... There's always going to be that.

Why anyone gets bothered about it is beyond me..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 23, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2023, 09:06:55 PMI've been to many grounds over the years.... There's always going to be that.

Why anyone gets bothered about it is beyond me..

What?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2023, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 23, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2023, 09:06:55 PMI've been to many grounds over the years.... There's always going to be that.

Why anyone gets bothered about it is beyond me..

What?

Steward's opening the gate, some may be officials and defo some 'mates' but it's nowt to get the knickers in a twist
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 23, 2023, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 23, 2023, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 23, 2023, 08:06:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.

Quote from: johnnycool on November 22, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 22, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
[/quote
Quote from: paddyjohn on November 21, 2023, 06:08:14 PMToss a coin for Owenbeg or Corrigan.
Nearly all ulster games used to be in casement. Was no home advantage back then!


I beg to differ and was pretty vocal on here at the time about the advantage afforded to the Antrim club champions who'd already had competitive club games there prior to playing the Derry or Down club champions.
And don't start me on the stewards etc etc who refused the disabled brother of three of our players a parking permit inside the ground only to be met by all the Dunloy team getting allowed to drive in past them.


I'm going to disagree with you there. There isn't a hurler in Ireland would have turned down the chance to hurl on the casement surface. Down and Derry teams were well accustomed to playing there so it was familiar and it was still always a big deal for Antrim club teams to play there.   If you're going to turn down the opportunity of hurling on casement, as it was, in favour of Newry or Armagh or Owenbeg then it's not the pitch that's the advantage, it's getting found out on the ideal hurling pitch that's your concern.

The days of home and away at club grounds are gone, this is supposed to showcase the best of ulster club hurling (in November/December very few pitches are ideal).  Bringing teams competing at this stage to a less than ideal pitch which merely serves as a leveller just shouldnt apply.  The Gaelic grounds surface for Ballygunner and Na Piarsiagh at the weekend looked immaculate.

I take your point regarding the stewards and agree entirely, found many of them to be obnoxious all the while letting their pals from West Belfast in without paying. Some people can't help themselves, desperate for a little authority and ultimately just an embarassment.

You can disagree with me all that you like, I've played on plenty of Down teams, club and county that have been treated abysmally in Casement and the great surface wasn't always the case as we'd played Dunloy in an Ulster semi-final there and they'd obviously just vertidrained the pitch that week and there was loads of surface sand which prevented the ball from bouncing. Dunloy were far superior on the day, so can't say the pitch ultimately played a part in the result but the game should not have been played there.
Also,
Down had repeatedly asked for access to the pitch in the lead up to the Ulster finals and access was only granted once in my time with them whilst we knew Antrim were training on it regularly.
It was far from a neutral venue.

So now you're talking about county matches when we are talking about Ulster club championship? Where do you think these county matches should have been played? Newry? Sure Down hurlers don't even want to play in Newry.  Or you're proposing to bring everyone down the Ards peninsula and cater for an intercounty Ulster Hurling final back in the days when we had big crowds attending?  There's no point ranting if you don't provide a realistic alternative. I was at the  ulster hurling final in 1989 when it was reinstated between Antrim and Down as a kid in the athletic grounds and my abiding memory is how bad the pitch was and how bad the goalmouths were. Many county grounds in ulster even in this day and age don't have an ideal surface for hurling, none of them could hold a candle to casement.

Sure we've all been treated abysmally in belfast/casement, I wouldn't take it personally nor that one time the pitch had sand on it.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 28, 2023, 11:01:31 AM
A lot of unhappy people on the camogie side of the County
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 03:09:55 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 28, 2023, 11:01:31 AMA lot of unhappy people on the camogie side of the County

Yeah, I've seen a few bits and pieces about it online but wasn't at the AGM or anything so no idea how exactly it all came about.

Tbh I felt she was doing a good job. She was part of the backroom team that won the All-Ireland and then took the job herself over the last two years. Under her guidance, the team was still moving forward in my opinion as they established themselves well at the senior level in her first year and then reached the All-Ireland quarter-final in her second year. I felt she deserved to get another year if she wanted it.

If she had said she was stepping down, the lads that got the job would have been on top of my wishlist. They did well with the Intermediate team and had two great years there. That team should be as much about setting up management for the senior as it is about getting players the experience so I think they were the right men but not in these circumstances.

Not sure what led to how this has worked out but I do feel for her. It seems she had the support of the players too. Not sure if any of them will reconsider if they want to commit for the year or not but it's certainly an ugly episode that could have easily been avoided.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 28, 2023, 04:00:52 PM
Seems the new senior management said that Neil McManus & Johnny Campbell were part of their setup, only for it to be clarified (after the votes were counted) that this wasn't the case  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 28, 2023, 04:00:52 PMSeems the new senior management said that Neil McManus & Johnny Campbell were part of their setup, only for it to be clarified (after the votes were counted) that this wasn't the case  ???

Yeah I saw the email they sent clarifying it. Is Johnny not involved with the hurlers and I would have thought if Neil wanted to be involved in a county set up it would have been as a player still as in the retirement interviews it still seemed like he felt he could still do a job and wanted more family time so doubt he was going to jump into a coaching role so quickly.

The Irish News article today mentioned Jane Adams was coming on board with the previous management. I'm sure she would have brought plenty to the role too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 28, 2023, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 28, 2023, 04:00:52 PMSeems the new senior management said that Neil McManus & Johnny Campbell were part of their setup, only for it to be clarified (after the votes were counted) that this wasn't the case  ???

Yeah I saw the email they sent clarifying it. Is Johnny not involved with the hurlers and I would have thought if Neil wanted to be involved in a county set up it would have been as a player still as in the retirement interviews it still seemed like he felt he could still do a job and wanted more family time so doubt he was going to jump into a coaching role so quickly.

The Irish News article today mentioned Jane Adams was coming on board with the previous management. I'm sure she would have brought plenty to the role too.

Id doubt mcmanus would be involved. maybe take a few sessions. I'd say after finishing county club work and family will take priority.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on November 28, 2023, 05:08:36 PM
The point is the new management team said they would be involved, to try and sway delegates into voting for their ticket & it was then clarified by the Antrim secretary that they would not be involved. A "misunderstanding" apparently
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 05:14:15 PM
Was it even voted for at the AGM? One of the things I read said she got the email at 2.18 and the AGM began at 2. That suggests the decision had already been made.

I doubt Antrim will say anything. Probably just close ranks and hope it blows over.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 06:45:44 PM
That team should be forced to step down from  the Camogie job. All smells vary bad indeed. The board should walk.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 07:17:16 PM
Even one of the players kicking up a stink about it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 07:24:31 PM
A few players are very unhappy online. It will all blow over no doubt. Instead of restoring credibility in the board. Brothers in arms together. In more ways than one.
Poor girls just should keep quiet and play for their bosses.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 07:33:16 PM
It's a pity because the camogiers have been going really well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 07:35:27 PM
It seems some media are starting to pick up on the story. Irish News half covered it and Balls.ie mentioned it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 07:41:02 PM
Five hurlers opting out next year  :-\  Two Elliots, Maskey, O'Neill and I assume the fifth is McManus which was obviously a known. That's not good.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 07:57:38 PM
If it was the men's team the gpa would be all over this. Surely someone will overturn this - #DowdsOrNoOne is the message to kit the team  :(

Anyhow what do us SW men know about Camogie -
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 07:41:02 PMFive hurlers opting out next year  :-\  Two Elliots, Maskey, O'Neill and I assume the fifth is McManus which was obviously a known. That's not good.

Hearing all 5 away to help with the new camogie management? Any truth ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 28, 2023, 08:02:18 PM
Embarassing for Antrim camogie, embarassing for the new management team, pretty spineless.

This can't be allowed to blow over.   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 28, 2023, 08:09:03 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 28, 2023, 08:02:18 PMEmbarassing for Antrim camogie, embarassing for the new management team, pretty spineless.

This can't be allowed to blow over.   

Not sure what can be done unless the players refuse to play and I don't know if there's a united front on that. Definitely loads of support from the players online but I'm sure there are players at the same clubs or graduates from that intermediate side who may be the side of the new management. I feel like the county board need to make a statement explaining what happened but I'd be massively surprised if they do.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: Oso on November 28, 2023, 08:02:18 PMEmbarassing for Antrim camogie, embarassing for the new management team, pretty spineless.

This can't be allowed to blow over.   

So many talented young girls playing for the county and for a group of dictators who think they can't be touched.

Player  power will defeat the board on this one if they fight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Glensman on November 28, 2023, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 07:41:02 PMFive hurlers opting out next year  :-\  Two Elliots, Maskey, O'Neill and I assume the fifth is McManus which was obviously a known. That's not good.

Molloy the fifth, not McManus as he was already gone. They just taking a break? Travelling? A shame but has been a long few seasons for them, particularly the Dunloy ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2023, 08:12:57 PM
Forgot him. He'd be the biggest loss too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 28, 2023, 08:18:35 PM
It's always the same. Progress, good progress, Antrim haven't operated at this level for years.

It's actaully disgusting, two total weasels and of course a board not fit for purpose who facilitated it all.

Where were the two weasels when the camogs were going nowhere at intermediate level?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 28, 2023, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: HealthySaff on November 28, 2023, 06:45:44 PMThat team should be forced to step down from  the Camogie job. All smells vary bad indeed. The board should walk.

But the chairman and the manager are cousins and chief sponsors of the team so chances of that happening are very slim.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PM
Great to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 09:15:41 AM
TBF Duck McFadden could help the whole thing out. Very good addition
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 09:17:34 AM
Also the Management isnt the problem its the process? So hopefully its the board the players have the problem with and continue to pull on the Saffron jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2023, 09:34:14 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 09:17:34 AMAlso the Management isnt the problem its the process? So hopefully its the board the players have the problem with and continue to pull on the Saffron jersey

This ^^ The camogiers have been making great progress so hopefully this doesn't derail them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 29, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one

So it's me you have an issue with?

I'm not surprised that you're surprised as I haven't seen you at any camogie matches, club or county.  Yet you feel the need to express your "surprise" about something you clearly haven't much insight into?  Aself proclaimed authority on everything GAA it seems.  But when you don't know what you don't know, well.....

So in the professional world of work, for instance. Two candidates interview for the same job, even though one of the candidates is already in the job and progressed the company in successive years and there appears to be no need for change.  The candidate already in the job hasn't even been asked to meet the board for a review and a plan going forward but instead finds out they have to interview for their job again. At the interview the other candidate lies about the tools they have at their disposal to do the job better.  They get the job ahead of the candidate already in the post. It is  immediately clarified after the interview that this candidate intentionally mislead the board and interview panel to get the job.

What would happen? If not a weasel give me a more apt term or discription?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 29, 2023, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 09:17:34 AMAlso the Management isnt the problem its the process? So hopefully its the board the players have the problem with and continue to pull on the Saffron jersey

I'd have thought that if you claimed that McManus and Campbell were part of your coaching/backroom team in order to get over the line in an interview and they've come out afterwards to say that that's not the case then you are a massive part of the problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 29, 2023, 11:31:07 AM
Collins English dictionary

"Weasel"

Noun

Informal

Intentionally evasive or misleading.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2023, 11:34:27 AM
Shambolic process start to finish.

It's like when they show some signs of moving forward as a board, they always find some way to shoot themselves in the foot.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BelSaft on November 29, 2023, 11:39:55 AM
The 5 lads will be a big loss to the County! why are they moving on? Travel? Game time? Work? Hope all the Cushendall boys commit when they get finished up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 11:51:32 AM
Think some cushendall lads could fill the gaps. Should be ok cover wise. You arent replacing Molloy or McManus. Seaan and Maskey are replacable imo. Not guaranteed starters and ONeill the same. Youd hope Boyle nails a starting spot with Conor McCann back and hopefully Clarke we should be ok. Young Joe McCormick cert for county colours at some stage
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one

I certainly never called anyone weasels or said anything negative about anyone here or in my social media content.

Personally, I believe Elaine was harshly treated and one of the players has said the process lacked transparency. Surely Elaine deserved a proper explanation as to what had happened in person or at least over the phone rather than an email during an AGM?

As for Brian and Duck, if someone had come to me and said Elaine Dowds has left Antrim, who should replace her, those two are the clear answer. They done a great job over their two years with the Junior/Intermediate team so that side of it was a penalty kick.

Where some issues lie is was this a sporting decision? A player pointed out that sponsor, county board and senior management now fall under one umbrella so was that why the decision was made?

In my opinion, there are a lot of things that need clarified. I can't see much happening and certainly can't see any decisions being reversed but I do think Elaine deserved better than what she got.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on November 29, 2023, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 11:51:32 AMThink some cushendall lads could fill the gaps. Should be ok cover wise. You arent replacing Molloy or McManus. Seaan and Maskey are replacable imo. Not guaranteed starters and ONeill the same. Youd hope Boyle nails a starting spot with Conor McCann back and hopefully Clarke we should be ok. Young Joe McCormick cert for county colours at some stage

Joe McLaughlin??

Joe McCormick plays for TNN so I am guessing you mean the Cushendall lad!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on November 29, 2023, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 11:51:32 AMThink some cushendall lads could fill the gaps. Should be ok cover wise. You arent replacing Molloy or McManus. Seaan and Maskey are replacable imo. Not guaranteed starters and ONeill the same. Youd hope Boyle nails a starting spot with Conor McCann back and hopefully Clarke we should be ok. Young Joe McCormick cert for county colours at some stage

Joe McLaughlin??

Joe McCormick plays for TNN so I am guessing you mean the Cushendall lad!

Brain freeze
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 29, 2023, 04:48:23 PM
I don't see an awful lot of games these days but I thought McCormick (Niall) looked worth a go based on county final performance at least.

I think McLaughlin a bit young yet but I honestly think he looks a better prospect than any we have seen in antrim for years. Still a school boy so senior a bit much I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 05:25:56 PM
There are quite a few young talented players in Antrim that could step up hopefully. The trouble is intercounty hurling isn't just about how good a hurler you are these days and obviously there's a lot to do with athleticism which makes it harder for young lads.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on November 29, 2023, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2023, 04:48:23 PMI don't see an awful lot of games these days but I thought McCormick (Niall) looked worth a go based on county final performance at least.

I think McLaughlin a bit young yet but I honestly think he looks a better prospect than any we have seen in antrim for years. Still a school boy so senior a bit much I think.

Agree Niall McCormick is a super hurler, great work rate and does the simple stuff.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on November 29, 2023, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2023, 04:48:23 PMI don't see an awful lot of games these days but I thought McCormick (Niall) looked worth a go based on county final performance at least.

I think McLaughlin a bit young yet but I honestly think he looks a better prospect than any we have seen in antrim for years. Still a school boy so senior a bit much I think.

Far too early to be brought into the squad I reckon. He's still at school.

There's bound to be 4 or 5 club lads who would be capable of stepping up to play for the county. Lads who are 25ish and are decent club players with a good attitude.

Can't see why people are looking to bring school lads into a senior inter-county panel. Even lads who are U20 are nearly too young imo.

Players need to be a bit more physically developed and a bit more savy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on November 29, 2023, 07:57:17 PM
There are fellas playing senior intercounty at a higher level than ourselves with u20 starters so I'm not sure why we should be any different. If he's good enough he's old enough

Always wondered why James oconnell didn't get a proper go. Great hurler
Niall mccormick is a yes for me
Ronan molloy is a yes aswell
Couple of very handy forwards in cushenduns team too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2023, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 29, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one

So it's me you have an issue with?

I'm not surprised that you're surprised as I haven't seen you at any camogie matches, club or county.  Yet you feel the need to express your "surprise" about something you clearly haven't much insight into?  Aself proclaimed authority on everything GAA it seems.  But when you don't know what you don't know, well.....

So in the professional world of work, for instance. Two candidates interview for the same job, even though one of the candidates is already in the job and progressed the company in successive years and there appears to be no need for change.  The candidate already in the job hasn't even been asked to meet the board for a review and a plan going forward but instead finds out they have to interview for their job again. At the interview the other candidate lies about the tools they have at their disposal to do the job better.  They get the job ahead of the candidate already in the post. It is  immediately clarified after the interview that this candidate intentionally mislead the board and interview panel to get the job.

What would happen? If not a weasel give me a more apt term or discription?

You obviously have never been in the professional world long, I've known plenty teachers who never got the job they were doing, very well also,  as someone else interviewed better on the day. Then to go on and never carry out the promises they made at the interview!

As for proclaiming I'm an authority? It's a GAA discussion board, a thread on Antrim matters, it's an opinion, if you don't like it, that's fine, but hiding behind the keyboard and calling people weasels? You're some 'man'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on November 30, 2023, 08:15:21 AM
Yeah cos selection processes in Antrim Gaa are run as they are in the corporate world ffs, what nonsense.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on November 30, 2023, 09:36:11 AM
It's not just the loss of these 4/5 players. It's the loss of 6/7/8 years in some cases of development work on the pitch and in the gym, very few if any of the potential replacements will have any of that.

Therefore regardless of the quality which is brought in to replace these boys it is going to be light years behind in terms of those other elements.

That is just the reality of picking from such a small pool of players unfortunately.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 30, 2023, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2023, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 29, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one

So it's me you have an issue with?

I'm not surprised that you're surprised as I haven't seen you at any camogie matches, club or county.  Yet you feel the need to express your "surprise" about something you clearly haven't much insight into?  Aself proclaimed authority on everything GAA it seems.  But when you don't know what you don't know, well.....

So in the professional world of work, for instance. Two candidates interview for the same job, even though one of the candidates is already in the job and progressed the company in successive years and there appears to be no need for change.  The candidate already in the job hasn't even been asked to meet the board for a review and a plan going forward but instead finds out they have to interview for their job again. At the interview the other candidate lies about the tools they have at their disposal to do the job better.  They get the job ahead of the candidate already in the post. It is  immediately clarified after the interview that this candidate intentionally mislead the board and interview panel to get the job.

What would happen? If not a weasel give me a more apt term or discription?

You obviously have never been in the professional world long, I've known plenty teachers who never got the job they were doing, very well also,  as someone else interviewed better on the day. Then to go on and never carry out the promises they made at the interview!

As for proclaiming I'm an authority? It's a GAA discussion board, a thread on Antrim matters, it's an opinion, if you don't like it, that's fine, but hiding behind the keyboard and calling people weasels? You're some 'man'

Poor analogy re locum temporary teaching posts. Poor analogy about carrying out the promises they made as that plays out over time rather than it being made public immediately afterwards that they deliberately misled the interview panel, not that they even had to as it was clearly a stitch up anyway.

I'm going to refer you to the collins dictionary definition of weasel again.  Exactly it's a forum on opinions, no need to be so condescending regarding other posters posts.   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on November 30, 2023, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 30, 2023, 08:15:21 AMYeah cos selection processes in Antrim Gaa are run as they are in the corporate world ffs, what nonsense.

Yeah imagine applying principles and transparency, wouldnt catch Antrim at that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2023, 12:04:18 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 30, 2023, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2023, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Oso on November 29, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2023, 08:19:57 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on November 29, 2023, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2023, 11:58:29 PMGreat to see so many interested posters worried about Antrim Camogie. It must be well supported and plenty of people involved helping out

Why always so condescending to posters discussing local gaa issues on a local gaa discussion board?

And yes I do support Camogie and would have attended more county Camogie matches than I've attended county matches in any other code over the last few years. Also helped at my local club until commitments changed and even helped briefly at county level when asked to help cover when someone was unavailable for a time.



You can take it as being condescending or you can take it that I'm surprised that it's that well supported outside of parents due to their kids playing...

If people are interested in taking teams that's a good thing too?

Whatever the process has or not been used that's down to the committee that's in place, someone was asking them to step down! Who's going to step up?

Calling people weasels, like come one

So it's me you have an issue with?

I'm not surprised that you're surprised as I haven't seen you at any camogie matches, club or county.  Yet you feel the need to express your "surprise" about something you clearly haven't much insight into?  Aself proclaimed authority on everything GAA it seems.  But when you don't know what you don't know, well.....

So in the professional world of work, for instance. Two candidates interview for the same job, even though one of the candidates is already in the job and progressed the company in successive years and there appears to be no need for change.  The candidate already in the job hasn't even been asked to meet the board for a review and a plan going forward but instead finds out they have to interview for their job again. At the interview the other candidate lies about the tools they have at their disposal to do the job better.  They get the job ahead of the candidate already in the post. It is  immediately clarified after the interview that this candidate intentionally mislead the board and interview panel to get the job.

What would happen? If not a weasel give me a more apt term or discription?

You obviously have never been in the professional world long, I've known plenty teachers who never got the job they were doing, very well also,  as someone else interviewed better on the day. Then to go on and never carry out the promises they made at the interview!

As for proclaiming I'm an authority? It's a GAA discussion board, a thread on Antrim matters, it's an opinion, if you don't like it, that's fine, but hiding behind the keyboard and calling people weasels? You're some 'man'

Poor analogy re locum temporary teaching posts. Poor analogy about carrying out the promises they made as that plays out over time rather than it being made public immediately afterwards that they deliberately misled the interview panel, not that they even had to as it was clearly a stitch up anyway.

I'm going to refer you to the collins dictionary definition of weasel again.  Exactly it's a forum on opinions, no need to be so condescending regarding other posters posts.   

I'm condescending and you're the one hiding behind the computer calling people weasels .. You can refer me to any dictionary you want, the fact is you're a very angry person..

But I'm sure your brave enough to have a pop at them face to face ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 02:15:32 PM
Anyone know how to get this match live rather than wait on deferred coverage? Apparently it should be on the tg4 app or player?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: LC on December 03, 2023, 02:30:12 PM
Unless I am on the wrong page but the TG4 player is saying that due to rights restrictions this programme is not available in your area, confused.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 03, 2023, 02:56:20 PM
I'm watching it now via the app no problem. On my phone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on December 03, 2023, 02:59:50 PM
Féach seo / check this out from #TG4 https://bit.ly/3hqFU1j
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: LC on December 03, 2023, 02:30:12 PMUnless I am on the wrong page but the TG4 player is saying that due to rights restrictions this programme is not available in your area, confused.

Depends on device. Turn location services on. If it's a laptop not sure...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 04:06:31 PM
Great win for cushendall. Tbh the scoreline flattered sn a bit. Paddy Burke some hurler and McLaughlin I think is the real deal. Some other great performances too and a lot of fight in them today.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
Some experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 03, 2023, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PMSome experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now

Yeah nobody is allowed an opinion. As you say that Slaughneil team is finished, very difficult for them to peak for games like that when half their team don't do much hurling throughout the year. O'Loughlin Gaels will be a step up again

Young McLaughlin has a Mageean final this Friday to play too for St Killians
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Brendan on December 03, 2023, 05:04:35 PM
Pity those slaughtneil men who came so close in both codes not going to win an All Ireland, even if they'd won today they've been on the slide a while
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 05:08:55 PM
Cushendall were much the better team I thought. Slaughtneil went too long in the second half without a score. Ed McQuillan superb.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 03, 2023, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: Brendan on December 03, 2023, 05:04:35 PMPity those slaughtneil men who came so close in both codes not going to win an All Ireland, even if they'd won today they've been on the slide a while

They have, very poor last year against Dunloy I thought too

Ballygunner look unstoppable
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 03, 2023, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: Brendan on December 03, 2023, 05:04:35 PMPity those slaughtneil men who came so close in both codes not going to win an All Ireland, even if they'd won today they've been on the slide a while

They have, very poor last year against Dunloy I thought too

Ballygunner look unstoppable

Aye they're on a different level. I think that Ballygunner Vs Na Piarsaigh game was as close as anybody will get to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 05:39:15 PM
Sure Cushendall might as well turn up!

The bookies had SN 4 point winners, they were poor against Dunloy last year and poorer today, not sure where the optimism was.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 05:39:15 PMSure Cushendall might as well turn up!

The bookies had SN 4 point winners, they were poor against Dunloy last year and poorer today, not sure where the optimism was.

I'd agree. I'd argue the last time they swung a hurl in anger was the match against Dunloy last year. Cruised through Derry and didn't even play 4 or 5 of the boys who started today in that. I know they played a few decent intercounty sides but I doubt the intensity was up to much at this time of year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on December 03, 2023, 06:55:31 PM
Super win. Much the better team. Scoreboard flattered Slaughtneil. Cushendall players superior with the stick.

Credit to Cushendall's fitness levels too. After that extra-time victory two weeks ago they'd be forgiven for being laborious today.

McManus regularly gets the credit but Eoghan Campbell, Paddy and Martin Burke, Joe McLaughlin, Scott Walsh and more have been super all season.

They held Slaughtneil scoreless for 18 minutes at one stage. 2 goals for Slaughtneil distorted the true gap between the two sides.

Cushendall by and large a club and community that stick with their own (bar a few high profile recent events).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 03, 2023, 06:55:31 PMSuper win. Much the better team. Scoreboard flattered Slaughtneil. Cushendall players superior with the stick.

Credit to Cushendall's fitness levels too. After that extra-time victory two weeks ago they'd be forgiven for being laborious today.

McManus regularly gets the credit but Eoghan Campbell, Paddy and Martin Burke, Joe McLaughlin, Scott Walsh and more have been super all season.

They held Slaughtneil scoreless for 18 minutes at one stage. 2 goals for Slaughtneil distorted the true gap between the two sides.

Cushendall by and large a club and community that stick with their own (bar a few high profile recent events).

Decent post on the match until your last paragraph
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 03, 2023, 06:55:31 PMSuper win. Much the better team. Scoreboard flattered Slaughtneil. Cushendall players superior with the stick.

Credit to Cushendall's fitness levels too. After that extra-time victory two weeks ago they'd be forgiven for being laborious today.

McManus regularly gets the credit but Eoghan Campbell, Paddy and Martin Burke, Joe McLaughlin, Scott Walsh and more have been super all season.

They held Slaughtneil scoreless for 18 minutes at one stage. 2 goals for Slaughtneil distorted the true gap between the two sides.

Cushendall by and large a club and community that stick with their own (bar a few high profile recent events).

Decent post on the match until your last paragraph

Which is what from hat he said in that last post?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 03, 2023, 07:59:01 PM
I called that one massively wrong.  Cushendall have improved with the games they've had and slaughtneil looked well off the pace with match sharpness and touch. The lay off did them absolutely no favours at all and it looked like Rodgers hasn't had a hurley in his hands often enough, even when he got possession his striking was off.

And yet still.. If slaughtneil had run at them sooner just as loughgiel did, they'd have caused massive problems and might have pulled it out of the fire. Still highlighted big problems with midfield and half back line when you run at Cushendall.

For most of the game they played right into Cushendall's hands. Slow build up, playing it short out of defence and when they got to between their own 45 and half way then decided to hit it long and high and pretty aimlessly in on top of Cushendall's full back line, probably their strongest line.  It was a bit painful to watch them persisting with it so long and I can only presume they thought Rodgers would win enough ball to do damage.  I know he's only back a few weeks at the hurling but Shane Mcguigan should have started based on the impact he had.

Mcalughlin was good but McQuillan has been the find of the season, quality.  Thought the ref was decent too, Mckaigue couldn't cope with McManus's strength and got rightly penalised repeatedly. The man has made a football career and won an all star out of holding off the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PMSome experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now

Thanks wee man. High praise from you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 03, 2023, 08:04:06 PM
Will this be the end of McShane ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:08:33 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 03, 2023, 08:04:06 PMWill this be the end of McShane ?

Yes, heard some rumours of discontent this year.... Not sure how accurate they were but even despite their abject display today he got his selection and tactics wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PMSome experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now

Thanks wee man. High praise from you.

Your knowledge on hurling is on a par with your football knowledge
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on December 03, 2023, 08:33:25 PM
Credit to Cushendall management who made a number of tough calls from the dropping of Aidan McNaughton, McAfee, and Delargy to starting mc Quillan, mc collam and mc Cormick all of whom had had a big impact.

Their match ups were also spot on with the 2 Burke's suppressing Rogers and O'Doherty who are their main threats.

Big question now- will they fly mc Cormick back again for the semi!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PMSome experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now

Thanks wee man. High praise from you.

Your knowledge on hurling is on a par with your football knowledge

Nothing like sitting on the fence wee man.  I think you predicted Slaughtneil would win too... But then you worded it in such a way as you could go either way after the event.  We've a little bit of a crowd pleaser on our hands when we venture outside the antrim boards.
Says it all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:42:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 08:23:48 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 03, 2023, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 04:34:24 PMSome experts had the Dall well beat!

SN done now

Thanks wee man. High praise from you.

Your knowledge on hurling is on a par with your football knowledge

Nothing like sitting on the fence wee man.  I think you predicted Slaughtneil would win too... But then you worded it in such a way as you could go either way after the event.  We've a little bit of a crowd pleaser on our hands when we venture outside the antrim boards.
Says it all.

"Would love to see Cushendall win next weekend but it's going to be very tough, hoping S'neil have a poor game, but they are decent"

So this is what I said on the game. SN had a bad game and Cushendall won,

The crap you put up wasn't even close. Do forgive me for thinking you're full of shite..

Ones using SN having to deal with inactivity and poor prep, been the same every year they won Ulster, in fact probably worse considering their football team was winning as well..

They played a few challenge games also.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 03, 2023, 09:05:20 PM
Exactly.

I hope they win.... But it's going to be very tough..... I hope slaughtneil have a bad game.... But they are decent.

Splinters much?

Slaughtneil's hurling demise has coincided with the success of the Derry intercounty footballers.   You can not deny that and the impact it's had on their own intercounty footballers hurling based on todays performances and probably hurling in Derry in general.  2 1/2 months is a long long lay off in anyone's books for match sharpness.  As evidenced by Cushendall today, matches bring teams on, especially championship matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 09:06:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 03, 2023, 09:05:20 PMExactly.

I hope they win.... But it's going to be very tough..... I hope slaughtneil have a bad game.... But they are decent.

Splinters much?

Slaughtneil's hurling demise has coincided with the success of the Derry intercounty footballers.   You can not deny that and the impact it's had on their own intercounty footballers hurling based on todays performances and probably hurling in Derry in general.  2 1/2 months is a long long lay off in anyone's books for match sharpness.  As evidenced by Cushendall today, matches bring teams on, especially championship matches.

Ok, put the phone down, you are starting to look silly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Jonkunlon on December 03, 2023, 06:55:31 PMSuper win. Much the better team. Scoreboard flattered Slaughtneil. Cushendall players superior with the stick.

Credit to Cushendall's fitness levels too. After that extra-time victory two weeks ago they'd be forgiven for being laborious today.

McManus regularly gets the credit but Eoghan Campbell, Paddy and Martin Burke, Joe McLaughlin, Scott Walsh and more have been super all season.

They held Slaughtneil scoreless for 18 minutes at one stage. 2 goals for Slaughtneil distorted the true gap between the two sides.

Cushendall by and large a club and community that stick with their own (bar a few high profile recent events).

Decent post on the match until your last paragraph

Which is what from hat he said in that last post?

Just wasn't overly sure why the last part was necessary?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 09:24:12 PM
Another factor imo is that slaughtneil's biggest players - Rodgers and O'Doherty - are players that cushendall have the ideal players to counteract. I don't think Dunloy have the same calibre of defender to do that despite being as good a team as they are.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:25:40 PM
Some difference in the chrissy mckaigue today to the one that took diarmuid connolly for 4 points in a football semi. Every dog has its day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 09:27:49 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:25:40 PMSome difference in the chrissy mckaigue today to the one that took diarmuid connolly for 4 points in a football semi. Every dog has its day
I honestly don't think there's that much. His job today was damage limitation. I know he's an all star corner back in football but I always thought him too one paced for the full back line and think he's better out the field in football or hurling. Controversial I know.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Would ye whist on December 03, 2023, 09:30:10 PM
On a side note our social media today was nothing short of embarrassing, I didn't know if he was drunk or passed the phone to a teenager, it's how I would imagine my daughter and her friends converse........bloody hell other counties must be laughing when they read the crap that goes up on our socials
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 03, 2023, 09:40:43 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on December 03, 2023, 09:30:10 PMOn a side note our social media today was nothing short of embarrassing, I didn't know if he was drunk or passed the phone to a teenager, it's how I would imagine my daughter and her friends converse........bloody hell other counties must be laughing when they read the crap that goes up on our socials

Yeah and not his first rodeo, just waiting for a certain poster to tell you to put your name forward at convention if you think you could do better 🤷🏻�♂️
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:41:51 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on December 03, 2023, 09:30:10 PMOn a side note our social media today was nothing short of embarrassing, I didn't know if he was drunk or passed the phone to a teenager, it's how I would imagine my daughter and her friends converse........bloody hell other counties must be laughing when they read the crap that goes up on our socials

Seen a "see ye chrissy" comment and thought the same
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 09:49:10 PM
That social media account not great unfortunately but hopefully will change. I do find it funny that saffron voice saying it's embarrassing with the stuff they come out with mind you lol.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: Would ye whist on December 03, 2023, 09:30:10 PMOn a side note our social media today was nothing short of embarrassing, I didn't know if he was drunk or passed the phone to a teenager, it's how I would imagine my daughter and her friends converse........bloody hell other counties must be laughing when they read the crap that goes up on our socials


No one opposed the social media side of things this year..

So if there are better ones out there, they need to step up

That's not me saying put your name forward, it's just that Sean done such a great job we have been spoilt
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:59:48 PM
I think everyone just expects a little bit more professionalism. On a high profile account
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 03, 2023, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 03, 2023, 09:59:48 PMI think everyone just expects a little bit more professionalism. On a high profile account

Yep, it's the kind of job you shouldn't be noticed & if you are you are doing something wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 10:17:26 PM
It's hard to understand what goes on with it. It honestly feels like a university marketing project rather than the pro of a county.

Anyway I don't like complaining about volunteers but would be nice to see better.

Two weeks to o'loughlin gaels. Definitely a better fixture than ballyhale anyway. Hopefully winnable. McManus vs huw lawlor a big one. Mike's butler and paddy deegan in there too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2023, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 03, 2023, 10:17:26 PMIt's hard to understand what goes on with it. It honestly feels like a university marketing project rather than the pro of a county.

Anyway I don't like complaining about volunteers but would be nice to see better.

Two weeks to o'loughlin gaels. Definitely a better fixture than ballyhale anyway. Hopefully winnable. McManus vs huw lawlor a big one. Mike's butler and paddy deegan in there too.

Those three players were stand out performers today, the speedy corner forward takes players on every opportunity..

Gaels are beatable..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PM
I thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 03, 2023, 11:30:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.
He tends to have a lot to say to his opposite number. Remember him at the same craic against Dunloy last year.

McShane said in an interview he was ready for the road after the Dunloy match. I think this team has reached their pinnacle and on the downward slope so who knows what he'll do but I can't imagine tje annual canter through the Derry c'ship will keep him interested for much longer.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 07:37:32 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.

I wouldn' lose any sleep over that.

Yeah O'Loughlin Gaels are as beatable as you'd get for a KK team. It's obviously a very tough game but I think there's a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 04, 2023, 09:26:09 AM
Post edited to delete withdrawn post.

Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.
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SV have no legs to stand on to be commenting on this with some of the stuff they have come out with.

This is a volunteer doing a difficult job. The commitment alone to get to the games is massive let alone the rest of the time required for the role.

Sean Kelly was recognised as probably the best in the business during his tenure, so there was always going to be a difference when he left the role. 

As for the game itself, SN looked completely off the pace, touch non existent and tactics more than questionable. As has been said above some stand out performances on the other side.
Feels like a changing of the guard in Derry for sure, if any of the other teams can get up a level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2023, 10:41:18 AM
I'm not using twitter so get less offended.. What was the post about?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2023, 10:43:11 AM
Post edited to delete withdrawn post.

Quote from: NAG1 on December 04, 2023, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 03, 2023, 10:58:17 PMI thought the post from the PRO was quite funny, to be honest. You could probably see 100 posts like that any weekend across all sports.

McKaigue was right in Neil's face then got completely skinned a minute or two later so I thought it was decent banter. Said as much to the SV lads but they hid my post and unfollowed me.

SV have no legs to stand on to be commenting on this with some of the stuff they have come out with.

This is a volunteer doing a difficult job. The commitment alone to get to the games is massive let alone the rest of the time required for the role.

Sean Kelly was recognised as probably the best in the business during his tenure, so there was always going to be a difference when he left the role. 

As for the game itself, SN looked completely off the pace, touch non existent and tactics more than questionable. As has been said above some stand out performances on the other side.
Feels like a changing of the guard in Derry for sure, if any of the other teams can get up a level.
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SN cantered through the Derry championship, hard to see them losing that particular crown for a while but they'd have been disappointed in the performance yesterday.

They went nip and tuck last year with Dunloy and like yesterday their touch let them down at key moments and TBH I could see why they lumped high ball in on top of the Cushendall defence as they coughed up scores when Portaferry did it, Dall learned their lessons though, the making of a smart team is learning and changing.
Maybe they weren't taking SN for granted and knew they had to step up and duly did.

One thing of note and you Antrim lads won't agree with me but McManus is the best protected forward in the province, he gets frees no other forward gets and McKaigue has probably pulled and dragged like that at lads, hurling and football for years and never got pulled on it like he was yesterday. Clarke is right, they are fouls all day long and I'd like it eradicated from the game as it's lazy defending but give all forwards the same protections.

As for putting McManus on Lawlor, I'd do everything but, Lawlor is by far the best out and out defender in Ireland and I'd put a sacrificial lamb in on him, try to make him stand on the edge of the six yard area and take him out of the game and pick off my points further out.
In saying that they've also got Mikey Butler and Deegan to tie up most attacking threats and this is where the rest of the Cushendall lads who stepped up yesterday will need to do the same again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2023, 11:30:10 AM
O'LG's have a knack this year in getting over the line, just.

Na Fianna missed the boat on that one on Sat afternoon, their misses were very scoreable, its an area that Cushendall should be better, they have experience also at this level

Mikey Butler and Deegan will be the winning of this game for Gaels, if Cushendall break even with them they have a chance
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
I would agree on the Lawlor thing JC. I think they should put someone like Sean McAfee on him (who didn't start yesterday) as he would give it to him physically at least.

Your McManus point is an interesting one. You could possibly be right. I felt McLaughlin for example had to work harder for his frees (if he got any). His hurl was being held a lot yet McManus maybe got softer ones though tbh I felt most of them were probably merited.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on December 04, 2023, 12:42:13 PM
Regards lawlor & O'L

Its not cushendalls decision who lawlor picks up.

If they want Lawlor marking McManus then he will, in the KK county final lawlor played much of his game around the middle as he picked up cody. Despite fennelly being edge of the square.

O'L have 3 of the best defenders in the game and will decide how they want to matchup.

Regards McManus he was absolute quality as always however glad to see others noticing how easy he gets it off referees. Any contact and refs are quick to give him a free for his theatrics, antrim refs are even more susceptible to him than yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 04, 2023, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: saffman on December 04, 2023, 12:42:13 PMRegards lawlor & O'L

Its not cushendalls decision who lawlor picks up.

If they want Lawlor marking McManus then he will, in the KK county final lawlor played much of his game around the middle as he picked up cody. Despite fennelly being edge of the square.

O'L have 3 of the best defenders in the game and will decide how they want to matchup.

Regards McManus he was absolute quality as always however glad to see others noticing how easy he gets it off referees. Any contact and refs are quick to give him a free for his theatrics, antrim refs are even more susceptible to him than yesterday.

I agree with this. Lawlor is good enough and athletic enough to play anywhere, so don't assume he'll be on the edge of the square. I do think Cushendall will need to focus on hitting more scores from further out around their half forward like. Ultimately that's what let Na finna down, they couldn't take those scores.

The one big thing going for Cushendall is that Oloughlin gaels dont have the same goal threat as Ballyhale always had.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 04, 2023, 01:15:12 PM
O'L are definitely no Ballyhale but they do have their own strengths.

Middle 3rd (as pretty much always) will be the winning of this game.

Na Fianna watched Deegan stroll up through the middle time and time again without a glove on him.

Would not expect this to be the case in the Semi-Final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on December 04, 2023, 03:34:20 PM
I think your getting mixed up in who the PRO is..

I don't believe Sean runs the Antrim Social media pages anymore and hasn't done for a number of years (happy to be proven wrong)

I know Sean done an excellent job and if anything was a credit to have run our social media (Yes I'm a fan i know) however the posts which are attracting negative coverage I believe is the new PRO
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 05:07:12 PM
Not the new pro any more. A few years in it I think. Btw that post above is as low a post as I have seen and tbh would be better removed.

Now can we move on... cushendall to beat olg... anyone?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 05:07:12 PMNot the new pro any more. A few years in it I think. Btw that post above is as low a post as I have seen and tbh would be better removed.

Now can we move on... cushendall to beat olg... anyone?

The post has been removed I believe and I've said what I wanted to privately. I think it's still there due to it being quoted a few times but there's not much can be done about that.

After watching the Leinster semis I felt the Ulster champs could win. The Leinster final had me less confident but Cushendall's performance yesterday gave reason for optimism. OLG will be favourites but it's certainly not a hopeless cause for Cushendall. Both have some quality individuals and coaches will have to try to account for that. Will it be at Croke Park like last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 04, 2023, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: saffman on December 04, 2023, 03:34:20 PMI think your getting mixed up in who the PRO is..

I don't believe Sean runs the Antrim Social media pages anymore and hasn't done for a number of years (happy to be proven wrong)

I know Sean done an excellent job and if anything was a credit to have run our social media (Yes I'm a fan i know) however the posts which are attracting negative coverage I believe is the new PRO

Current PRO is very poor. The was next to no promotion of the club scene. Maybe the senior county finals but that's it. Sean Kelly did cover some games this year. That's a fact. So if you take away what Sean did against how little there was the current PRO has done nothing to promote the county/club scene. Missed promotion of minor county matches. He sends out happy birthday messages to some of the county players. Like who cares? What other county page do you see this on?

There's usually a handful of people that have access to those accounts. Sean is probably one of them and has never officially been removed. Jerome Quinn probably has access to it as well because he was covering some games for the county then the fella who is the current PRO.

I know when I was added for one of the other codes there was about half a dozen different people had access.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 07:28:05 PM
Cushendall match in Pairc Tailteann Navan on 17 December
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 04, 2023, 07:27:17 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: 1884 on December 04, 2023, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: saffman on December 04, 2023, 03:34:20 PMI think your getting mixed up in who the PRO is..

I don't believe Sean runs the Antrim Social media pages anymore and hasn't done for a number of years (happy to be proven wrong)

I know Sean done an excellent job and if anything was a credit to have run our social media (Yes I'm a fan i know) however the posts which are attracting negative coverage I believe is the new PRO

Current PRO is very poor. The was next to no promotion of the club scene. Maybe the senior county finals but that's it. Sean Kelly did cover some games this year. That's a fact. So if you take away what Sean did against how little there was the current PRO has done nothing to promote the county/club scene. Missed promotion of minor county matches. He sends out happy birthday messages to some of the county players. Like who cares? What other county page do you see this on?

There's usually a handful of people that have access to those accounts. Sean is probably one of them and has never officially been removed. Jerome Quinn probably has access to it as well because he was covering some games for the county then the fella who is the current PRO.

I know when I was added for one of the other codes there was about half a dozen different people had access.


Yes, a PRO team is needed. Can't fall on one person, don't think anyone expects that but surely we have to expect our club games promoted across all levels and codes. It's completely neglected the past two years.

The underage side too. Young players at 16 and below representing their county is a huge honour for them, their family and their club. You wouldn't have know who was playing in a lot of the underage games and in fact with the minor football you wouldn't even have known the games were on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 07:49:29 PM
PRO team is probably a good idea. I know Loughgiel have a good few doing it.

Re the underage side of it, that can be even more work. It would be one thing posting the county stuff for juveniles but if you're covering club championships there's so much stuff in the modern world that you post a name or picture of a kid that you're not supposed to and the next thing you're in bother.

Is Antrim GAA PRO a paid position? I think to do the thing right and give every county and club team the level of coverage you would like could fill full time hours.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2023, 07:50:41 PM
If only there was another social media set up, someone who's able to plug the games at all levels and all codes, ladies and boys...

I'm surprised the GAA still functions without social media
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 07:59:47 PM
Cushendall v Oloughlin Gaels 13.30 Dec 17 in pairc Tailtain Navan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: LC on December 04, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 07:59:47 PMCushendall v Oloughlin Gaels 13.30 Dec 17 in pairc Tailtain Navan

A bit unfair on Cushendall, I remember S'neil and Loughgiel playing All-Ireland semis in Newry against Leinster teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 08:18:24 PM
Quote from: LC on December 04, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 07:59:47 PMCushendall v Oloughlin Gaels 13.30 Dec 17 in pairc Tailtain Navan

A bit unfair on Cushendall, I remember S'neil and Loughgiel playing All-Ireland semis in Newry against Leinster teams.

I thought they might have had them at Croke Park like last year? Maybe the ladies football final is that day or something?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Ladies club finals don't tend to be in croke park. (Football but I think maybe camogie is?)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 08:27:45 PM
Quote from: LC on December 04, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 07:59:47 PMCushendall v Oloughlin Gaels 13.30 Dec 17 in pairc Tailtain Navan

A bit unfair on Cushendall, I remember S'neil and Loughgiel playing All-Ireland semis in Newry against Leinster teams.

Cushendall beat Sarsfields of Galway in Navan the year they got to the All Ireland final, so I'd imagine that they will be happy enough with the venue.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 04, 2023, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 08:20:30 PMLadies club finals don't tend to be in croke park. (Football but I think maybe camogie is?)

Camogie was definitely at Croke Park last year. Loughgiel played their final at Croke on the Saturday evening and then the Dunloy hurling semi was the next day at Croke in a double header with Ballyhale and Ballygunner. World Cup final was on at the same time as the Ballyhale and Ballygunner match.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 08:37:42 PM
The ladies football club final is in Croke Park on Sat December 16 and the ladies club camogie final the following day, also in Croke Park.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 04, 2023, 09:10:14 PM
Navan is a dump of a ground in this day and age.  Down to the semi finals in the elite club competition and the Gaa can't find better facilities between here and kilkenny to host a game in December.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PM
So age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2023, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: ardtole on December 04, 2023, 08:37:42 PMThe ladies football club final is in Croke Park on Sat December 16 and the ladies club camogie final the following day, also in Croke Park.

A there was a big furore about the ladies football the other year. That maybe changed it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

Also, intercounty minor is staying at 17, so you'll have club minor at 18 and IC at 17.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:57:14 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:56:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Madness

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

Also, intercounty minor is staying at 17, so you'll have club minor at 18 and IC at 17.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 06, 2023, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.

Below U12 is still to be decided, either P6, P4 or U10, U8. I'd prefer primary school ages for the simple reason it keeps class mates together for that bit longer. We pull from the one primary school so assists us more than some other clubs where it's probably not big of a deal.

As for two touch penalising stronger players, I don't really buy that as the only thing they can't do is solo run, you'd want to coaching lads at that age "heads up" hurling rather than the bigger lads putting the ball on the end of their hurl, running 20 or 30 metres and sticking the ball in the net.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on December 06, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 06, 2023, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 07:26:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 05, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 05, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 05, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 04, 2023, 09:28:52 PMSo age groups reverting to even and no decision on minors playing senior until new year
Down are going even as well with the 18yo's eligible to play adult

Yeah and National Feile staying at u15, you literally couldnt write it.

It's a difficult situation as the Feile had to be moved from U-14 as there was a group of kids who missed it due to covid and now to move it back would mean another year would end up missing out. I guess possible solutions would be for one year to do both an U-15 and an U-14 one so every group gets their turn or to move it up to U-16 at some stage. For most clubs, it probably wouldn't be an issue but for big clubs who aren't relying on younger ones playing up, they'd miss out.

Feile as it once was won't be coming back, it will be in it's current form, run off in a day somewhere in the Greater Dublin area, Meath or Kildare.

The staying in peoples houses left the association badly exposed, not to mention the families themselves.

Yeah, all great at the time.  The times thst were in it. When you look back on it, crazy stuff altogether.

Regarding the age groups, even ages, then od ages at inter-county.  It's a bit of a mess.

Big step up after primary school now in north.  Are all counties sticking with U7.5, U9.5 and U11.5 at primary school level?

Then up to U13's at secondary school?

Down go U12 but that's still Go Games with U14 being "two-touch" and not full rules

What's below U12 JC.

I understand the logic behind 2 touch but it penalises the stronger/better/more skillful players.

I think they should play full rules at U 14.

Below U12 is still to be decided, either P6, P4 or U10, U8. I'd prefer primary school ages for the simple reason it keeps class mates together for that bit longer. We pull from the one primary school so assists us more than some other clubs where it's probably not big of a deal.

As for two touch penalising stronger players, I don't really buy that as the only thing they can't do is solo run, you'd want to coaching lads at that age "heads up" hurling rather than the bigger lads putting the ball on the end of their hurl, running 20 or 30 metres and sticking the ball in the net.

Yes, Primary School should be kept as that.

P2/P3, P4/P5, P6/P7 all together.

Not fair on some P7s having to step up to playing against Secondary school children and half their class mates are still with their classmates.
 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 07, 2023, 06:04:02 AM
I disagree regarding 2 touch at U14 level though I do think the distance one player is allowed to carry the ball should be limited or refined.

Promoting 2 touch does force players to play with more of a head up approach, however that's also part of their coaching and we shouldn't need a rule for them to see that.... Just better coaching.

I think 2 touch discourages the smaller and weaker players from carrying the ball into contact and taking an opponent on directly because they run out of steps too quickly. That's a massive part of the game that we should be coaching at a key development stage like u14, not discouraging.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2023, 07:38:38 AM
Quote from: Oso on December 07, 2023, 06:04:02 AMI disagree regarding 2 touch at U14 level though I do think the distance one player is allowed to carry the ball should be limited or refined.

Promoting 2 touch does force players to play with more of a head up approach, however that's also part of their coaching and we shouldn't need a rule for them to see that.... Just better coaching.

I think 2 touch discourages the smaller and weaker players from carrying the ball into contact and taking an opponent on directly because they run out of steps too quickly. That's a massive part of the game that we should be coaching at a key development stage like u14, not discouraging.

In hurling, as a coach, I wouldn't encourage carrying the ball into contact or taking a player on.

It's about releasing the ball early into space for an attacker to run on to, diagonal balls whipped in at pace, runners collecting the ball from off the shoulder of a player who wins primary possession.

Taking a player on invites a defender to tackle, running at an opponent allows the chance of a hook or a block.

Those are (for me) the basics that juveniles should be looking at.

There is a massive investment in developing the skills that speed up the game, striking on the move left/right, one handed dips without breaking stride, heads up hurling, spacial awareness and so on.

But get the fundamentals right first and everything should follow after that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 07, 2023, 01:20:55 PM

Well that's your view. It's not something I agree with or Woody would agree with in his coaching sessions.

Committing the defender is often how to create the space for the runner and the overlap and how to create the space to get a shot at goal.

Don't take commit the defender as a forward you are forced away from goal and into wide areas, too easy to play against.

And u14s need to develop their movement, spacial awareness and footwork in this regard. 






Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 07, 2023, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 07, 2023, 01:20:55 PMWell that's your view. It's not something I agree with or Woody would agree with in his coaching sessions.

Committing the defender is often how to create the space for the runner and the overlap and how to create the space to get a shot at goal.

Don't take commit the defender as a forward you are forced away from goal and into wide areas, too easy to play against.

And u14s need to develop their movement, spacial awareness and footwork in this regard. 



And how does two touch prevent an U14 player, any player from taking the ball into contact?

I've never seen anyone go into contact with the ball still on the end of their hurl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2023, 04:57:52 PM
Big game at the Dub tomorrow night as St Killian's and CPC meet in the Mageean Cup final.

I'd say St Killian's are favourites with 10 of the starting 15 from last year back for another shot at it but CPC have plenty of quality themselves.

Hopefully a great game that isn't too badly impacted by the weather.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 07, 2023, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2023, 04:57:52 PMBig game at the Dub tomorrow night as St Killian's and CPC meet in the Mageean Cup final.

I'd say St Killian's are favourites with 10 of the starting 15 from last year back for another shot at it but CPC have plenty of quality themselves.

Hopefully a great game that isn't too badly impacted by the weather.

It's in doubt. Pitch inspection tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 07, 2023, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 07, 2023, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 07, 2023, 04:57:52 PMBig game at the Dub tomorrow night as St Killian's and CPC meet in the Mageean Cup final.

I'd say St Killian's are favourites with 10 of the starting 15 from last year back for another shot at it but CPC have plenty of quality themselves.

Hopefully a great game that isn't too badly impacted by the weather.

It's in doubt. Pitch inspection tomorrow morning.

There was a lot of rain today and I think the forecast was for a lot more tomorrow.

The final last year was absolutely Baltic. I think the pitch was frozen by the end.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 10:30:18 AM
Match going ahead
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 10:38:52 AM
Is it at the dub? I've been in that area this morning and while it rained a lot yesterday it's been grand since late yesterday afternoon so it's likely ok.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 10:40:04 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 10:38:52 AMIs it at the dub? I've been in that area this morning and while it rained a lot yesterday it's been grand since late yesterday afternoon so it's likely ok.

Yeah the Arena pitch
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 10:42:37 AM
I suspect it should be grand then.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 10:30:18 AMMatch going ahead

Good news. Think there's to be heavy rain around 5 or 6 but hopefully, they've taken that into account and the game lives up to the billing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on December 08, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Not sure what you do with the Mageean Cup, 6 teams in it this year with two groups of 3. All 6 qualify for QF or semi final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 08, 2023, 01:20:29 PMNot sure what you do with the Mageean Cup, 6 teams in it this year with two groups of 3. All 6 qualify for QF or semi final.

It seems to be the modern way. Everyone gets group games to get some game time then the knockouts are where it really starts.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 08, 2023, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 08, 2023, 01:20:29 PMNot sure what you do with the Mageean Cup, 6 teams in it this year with two groups of 3. All 6 qualify for QF or semi final.

Knock made an awful mess of it this year...

They'd a good team, probably a bit below both finalists but should have been well able to give either a decent semi-final, but the team was badly out of shape against St Pats Maghera in the quarter final and got caught out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 08, 2023, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on December 08, 2023, 01:20:29 PMNot sure what you do with the Mageean Cup, 6 teams in it this year with two groups of 3. All 6 qualify for QF or semi final.

Knock made an awful mess of it this year...

They'd a good team, probably a bit below both finalists but should have been well able to give either a decent semi-final, but the team was badly out of shape against St Pats Maghera in the quarter final and got caught out.


Yeah they were expected to be much better than they turned out to be
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 02:53:23 PM
St Killian's were always going to be strong this year. 10 of their starting 15 from last year are on the panel again this year. Think CPC are quite young this year so they'll probably be favourites next season regardless of what happens tonight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 03:00:28 PM
I would imagine it's a long time since any St Killians / Garron Tower won it. I don't ever remember it happening.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 03:00:28 PMI would imagine it's a long time since any St Killians / Garron Tower won it. I don't ever remember it happening.

According to Ulster Gaa,

St MacNissi's Garron Tower (2) : 1963, 1964

Lost a few finals along the way but it's been a long time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 04:46:11 PM
Game just called off
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 04:46:11 PMGame just called off

Interesting to see when they reschedule it for now. Hopefully, not next Friday night as that would possibly rule Joseph McLaughlin out as it's so close to the All Ireland semi-final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on December 08, 2023, 05:26:57 PM
North Antrim Mafia won't allow it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 08, 2023, 05:26:57 PMNorth Antrim Mafia won't allow it.

Don't think it will be this side of Xmas

Who are the N Antrim mafia ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 08, 2023, 05:26:57 PMNorth Antrim Mafia won't allow it.

Don't think it will be this side of Xmas

Who are the N Antrim mafia ?

A lot probably depends on when the All Ireland section of the competition is scheduled for.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 08, 2023, 05:26:57 PMNorth Antrim Mafia won't allow it.

Don't think it will be this side of Xmas

Who are the N Antrim mafia ?

A lot probably depends on when the All Ireland section of the competition is scheduled for.

After Xmas according to the email about the ticket

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 08, 2023, 05:33:21 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on December 08, 2023, 05:26:57 PMNorth Antrim Mafia won't allow it.

Don't think it will be this side of Xmas

Who are the N Antrim mafia ?

A lot probably depends on when the All Ireland section of the competition is scheduled for.

After Xmas according to the email about the ticket

 

Looks like the All Ireland stage is March so gives plenty of time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PM
I see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 13, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder

Yeah and allegedly was being paid, one of the few instances of fellas taking their own club and asking to be paid
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2023, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 13, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder

Yeah and allegedly was being paid, one of the few instances of fellas taking their own club and asking to be paid

Can't see there being the same amount of money being paid to hurling managers in Antrim, would any be doling out the "expenses"?
Loughgeil, maybe!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 13, 2023, 10:21:56 AM
john de novi? gets more airtime on our socials than most of our players!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 13, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder

Yeah and allegedly was being paid, one of the few instances of fellas taking their own club and asking to be paid

Allegedly? Some expenses can be given, fuel and stuff, but an actual wage...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 13, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder

Yeah and allegedly was being paid, one of the few instances of fellas taking their own club and asking to be paid

Allegedly? Some expenses can be given, fuel and stuff, but an actual wage...


I think to be fair at that point he was not living in Ballycastle and was travelling down.

AFAIK this has since changed.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 13, 2023, 02:17:34 PM
I would think he'll see a few offers. Done a great job with Slaughtneil and Tyrone. Probably too late for any county involvement but I'm sure there will be clubs considering talking to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 13, 2023, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 13, 2023, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 12, 2023, 01:16:08 PMI see Michael McShane has stepped down from Slaughtneil. I'm sure he'll see plenty of offers. Could he manage in Antrim or will he go further afield again?

How about a stint with his own club and try and lift the level down there.

Nearly sure he was manager before in Ballycastle...

Sometimes managing your own team is harder

Yeah and allegedly was being paid, one of the few instances of fellas taking their own club and asking to be paid

Allegedly? Some expenses can be given, fuel and stuff, but an actual wage...


I think to be fair at that point he was not living in Ballycastle and was travelling down.

AFAIK this has since changed.
Travelling down from where?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 14, 2023, 10:01:57 AM
Read an interview last week from him whereas when he was playing/managing Ballycastle he was actually living in Maghera
Then when he was managing slaughtneil he was doing the opposite journey
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 14, 2023, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 14, 2023, 10:01:57 AMRead an interview last week from him whereas when he was playing/managing Ballycastle he was actually living in Maghera
Then when he was managing slaughtneil he was doing the opposite journey

Even he was living in Maghera. If he was taking Ballycastle and taking money off his own club then imo he's managing for the wrong reasons. No proof of this btw just saying if this was the case

I'm sure he'd players under him travelling furter to be there
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 14, 2023, 12:59:47 PM
I heard a story before about someone who said he would coach his own club for money and a few people questioned him about it and he told them well you're going to pay someone from outside to do it so why wouldn't you give that money to me?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 14, 2023, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 14, 2023, 12:59:47 PMI heard a story before about someone who said he would coach his own club for money and a few people questioned him about it and he told them well you're going to pay someone from outside to do it so why wouldn't you give that money to me?

No one should be outta pocket, any travel should be paid.

In this case paying a trainer and a manager a wage plus travel while a manager of the other senior team gets nowt seems about odd?

I know this particular case or one like it very well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PM
Do we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.

OLG definitely rely heavily on Mark Begin for scores but they do tend to get a wide spread of scores which can be hard to defend in itself rather than just man marking a couple of lads.

Think they have to give Neil and Joe a chance to get scores but they'll have to earn them against that defence.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on December 16, 2023, 09:16:57 PM
Paddy Deegan got 5 from chb in the leinster final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 16, 2023, 09:22:56 PM
The wee speedy corner forward will be hard watched too. (Unless that's Bergin but think he's in the half forwards).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 16, 2023, 09:34:19 PM
Some game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: ardtole on December 16, 2023, 09:16:57 PMPaddy Deegan got 5 from chb in the leinster final.

Deegan got 5 in that one and Owen Wall got 2-0 and Conor Kelly got 1-1 in the Kilkenny semi. Nobody else has got more than 3 in a game aside from Bergin. They've scored 5 goals in 6 games, Wall got 3 of those.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.

So if they don't get goals, based on your posts, they'll lose?

Cushendall don't throw up too many goal opportunities and the Dall will score 95% of their frees within 70 meters


I'm going for a 1 or 2 point win for either team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 11:29:37 PM
Goals can certainly make a huge difference but at this time of year scores tend to be lower anyway. As MR2 says Neil will be solid from the dead ball, as will Bergin for OLG. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on December 17, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.

So if they don't get goals, based on your posts, they'll lose?

Cushendall don't throw up too many goal opportunities and the Dall will score 95% of their frees within 70 met


I'm going for a 1 or 2 point win for either team

My biggest worry for Cushendall would be the fact they conceded 2 goals to both Portaferry and Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2023, 12:29:04 AM
Both teams are strong in defence...

Be a good semi
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 17, 2023, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: ardtole on December 17, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.

So if they don't get goals, based on your posts, they'll lose?

Cushendall don't throw up too many goal opportunities and the Dall will score 95% of their frees within 70 met


I'm going for a 1 or 2 point win for either team

My biggest worry for Cushendall would be the fact they conceded 2 goals to both Portaferry and Slaughtneil.

3 v Portaferry. Should be close today
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2023, 01:53:42 PM
That's some helter skelter start
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on December 17, 2023, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 16, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: Oso on December 16, 2023, 07:11:03 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 16, 2023, 05:36:50 PMDo we think Cushendall have much chance tomorrow?

I think the fact it's not Ballyhale is bound to be a boost to them although any club side that has quality like Lawlor, Butler and Keegan will be hard beat.

They'll probably have to improve again on the Slaughtneil display but I certainly don't think it's mission impossible.

They have a chance because all 3 players you mentioned are top players but are defenders. OLG don't have the calibre of forwards ballyhale have or have had and the same goal threat.

But they are probably going to have to work harder for scores and take more scores from play from further out to be in with a shout and I don't think they have that quality in their midfield and half forwards.  I reckon they need a couple of goals at least to win and that will not be easy against that defence.

So if they don't get goals, based on your posts, they'll lose?

Cushendall don't throw up too many goal opportunities and the Dall will score 95% of their frees within 70 meters


I'm going for a 1 or 2 point win for either team

Yes!!!!  I think they knkw that themselves given how they've started.

Have you a problem with my posts wee man or do you need further clarification?  You seem to challenge everything. 

They've done exactly what I thought they needed to do, take some great long range points, and got a goal and McQuillan was massively unlucky with his effort that hit the post, that would have been a massive boost.

But... That looks like a strong breeze/wind and scores from further out will be harder to come by this half.  Paddy Burke and Campbell have been immense. Liam Gillan getting it tight and should also have been black carded already.

First 15 minutes of this half are massive, with that wind it might get away from them, they need some early scores on the board and ideally another goal to be in contention going into the last ten.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 17, 2023, 02:14:12 PM
What's with the wee man stuff? Are you a child?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Silver hill on December 17, 2023, 03:07:52 PM
Hard luck Cushendall. Epic game. 3 or 4 rushed efforts with 10 /15 left proved costly. Ref a wee bit sore on them I thought in that second half.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 17, 2023, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on December 17, 2023, 03:07:52 PMHard luck Cushendall. Epic game. 3 or 4 rushed efforts with 10 /15 left proved costly. Ref a wee bit sore on them I thought in that second half.

Yeah those wides and a couple of opportunities when they ran in too far maybe thinking goal but didn't even end up getting the point proved costly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: MoChara on December 17, 2023, 08:59:17 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 08:17:36 PMHas anyone any idea why Cushendall is referred to in Irish as Bun Abhann Dalla? Cois Abhann Dalla would appear to be much more obvious as the "Cush" can't have come out of nowhere. Must be a reason though.

This is extremely important btw.

Are they not both just descriptors for the bottom or lower part of the river Dall?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 17, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 09:04:23 PMSomething like that but we have arrived at Cushendall as the anglicised version of something. I know what my money would be on.

Would there be a Scots gaelic influence in that area?

Although Irish was probably spoken in the Glens I'd say up until a generation or two ago probably.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 17, 2023, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 17, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 09:04:23 PMSomething like that but we have arrived at Cushendall as the anglicised version of something. I know what my money would be on.

Would there be a Scots gaelic influence in that area?

Although Irish was probably spoken in the Glens I'd say up until a generation or two ago probably.

The Glens area would have been part of the Kingdom of Dalriada and trade etc would have been more common with Scotland than other parts of Ireland. I've no idea re language though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: MoChara on December 17, 2023, 09:17:48 PM
I think Cushendun use Cois Abhainn Duinne, and dont quote me but I had heard at one time the difference was where the village is settled Cushendun at the mouth of their river and the main part of Cushendall a bit up from the sea, but the original "Cushendall" settlement had also been at the river mouth where now is known as Dalriada. So cois abhain dalla is an older name for an older development.

It was also called Newtownglens for a while too I hope thats you fully confused on the issue now 🤣

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 17, 2023, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 17, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 09:04:23 PMSomething like that but we have arrived at Cushendall as the anglicised version of something. I know what my money would be on.

Would there be a Scots gaelic influence in that area?

Although Irish was probably spoken in the Glens I'd say up until a generation or two ago probably.
Absolutely there would have been though I don't think that relates here.

There's 2 versions but is Bun the official version?

I wonder what Cushendun is?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 17, 2023, 09:20:49 PM
Quote from: MoChara on December 17, 2023, 09:17:48 PMI think Cushendun use Cois Abhainn Duinne, and dont quote me but I had heard at one time the difference was where the village is settled Cushendun at the mouth of their river and the main part of Cushendall a bit up from the sea, but the original "Cushendall" settlement had also been at the river mouth where now is known as Dalriada. So cois abhain dalla is an older name for an older development.

It was also called Newtownglens for a while too I hope thats you fully confused on the issue now 🤣



Beat me to it.

Place names are very interesting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: MoChara on December 17, 2023, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 17, 2023, 09:33:20 PMAh now, Cushendun are at it too.

https://www.logainm.ie/ga/1412045


Them Shelbyvillians are always at something
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: podge on December 18, 2023, 08:02:25 AM
A fine performance from Cushendall although I suspect they have little interest in a hard luck story.

 I thought the ref was a tad sore on them a couple of times.  Soft free against Paddy Burke  for their first score, Alex Delargy overcarrying after 2 steps, questionable tackles on McCambridge and McManus.  All that said, they had the chances to draw level in injury time.

Some performances around the field.  One who rarely gets a mention is Martin Burke- his brother rightly gets lauded and is one of the best around but I thought Martin was as good as any yesterday.  Maybe not always fancy stuff but he is a great defender and marker.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 18, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
I didn't have any issue with the ref, tough game to ref there with a heavy slow pitch, loads of rucks
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 18, 2023, 08:48:51 AM
Martin Burke has been one of the best defenders in the county for years - wish we'd seen a lot more of him in the county jersey
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 18, 2023, 10:49:02 AM
Was down yesterday and C'dall could have won only for,

Shot relentless wides in a ten minute period when they were on top.

Needed to be more than 3 up with that breeze

The Ref wasn't giving them all their frees for sure.

Maybe landed to much high ball in on Hugh Lawlor in first half when the breeze suggested shooting from further out

Great effort all the same and great game to watch.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
Bringing out Neil helped as his battle with Lawlor wasn't one he was winning

OlGs still managed to drive down the centre of the pitch and create openings

Cushendall Missed some easier shots and scored more difficult ones.

The ref was grand, Cushendall got a couple of soft ones too, that ref was out recently and I thought he'd a very good game the last day and yesterday.

The young Cushendall lad was marked tighter after his goal

As Hogan said after the match, we are down a score, nothing in those conditions

They only went in front on the 50 minute marker..

Cushendall needed another goal but they could have given a few away themselves, as I said before, both were strong defensively.

The Kilkenny championship probably the hardest to win, at all grades. Standard at club level getting better
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 18, 2023, 11:09:10 AM
McAfee had an easy handpass inside one time for a tap over score. Poor enough hand pass and a failed lift. Also a missed lift when McManus put the head down on goal. And ended up squaring the ball. Two simple scores
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2023, 11:14:44 AM
I noted the intensity levels that Cushendall put up in that first half was going to be hard to recreate for the full 60+ minutes

When your body's fecked mistakes happen, easy lifts and simple hand passes are not completed.

St Thomas's based on the other night might be slight favourites
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on December 18, 2023, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2023, 11:14:44 AMI noted the intensity levels that Cushendall put up in that first half was going to be hard to recreate for the full 60+ minutes

When your body's fecked mistakes happen, easy lifts and simple hand passes are not completed.

St Thomas's based on the other night might be slight favourites

I would think St Thomas could struggle to match that performance. Good side though, that club need an all ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 18, 2023, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 18, 2023, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 18, 2023, 11:14:44 AMI noted the intensity levels that Cushendall put up in that first half was going to be hard to recreate for the full 60+ minutes

When your body's fecked mistakes happen, easy lifts and simple hand passes are not completed.

St Thomas's based on the other night might be slight favourites

I would think St Thomas could struggle to match that performance. Good side though, that club need an all ireland

They won it in 2013
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on December 19, 2023, 09:09:46 AM
Cushendall can consider themselves unlucky, bar a piece of luck with hitting the post and a few bad wides. It was close to the perfect performance.

OLGs took a while to get to the level of the game but when they did they had a few stand out performances to get them over the line.

Two hugely competitive semi finals, it remains to be a brilliant competition year on year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 26, 2023, 10:37:22 PM
Antrim Hurling Quiz of 2023 for anyone interested. I'd expect a few 10/10's from this site.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LTXQ6V
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 26, 2023, 11:00:36 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 26, 2023, 10:37:22 PMAntrim Hurling Quiz of 2023 for anyone interested. I'd expect a few 10/10's from this site.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LTXQ6V

Good stuff SSports.

Got 9 out of 10 so delighted.

The group stage one got me.

Good range of questions.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Deerstalker on December 26, 2023, 11:05:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 26, 2023, 11:00:36 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 26, 2023, 10:37:22 PMAntrim Hurling Quiz of 2023 for anyone interested. I'd expect a few 10/10's from this site.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LTXQ6V

Good stuff SSports.

Got 9 out of 10 so delighted.

The group stage one got me.

Good range of questions.

10/10  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 28, 2023, 08:49:30 PM
The Camogie quiz is now ready if anyone here is interested.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KXXY8Y2

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on December 29, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2023, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: Crossbar 1 on December 18, 2023, 10:44:45 PMLocal shopkeeper and Glenarrife man get the shamrocks top job over a team made up of a former double All Ireland winning manager along with a very strong back up team you couldn't write it.

Camogie job taken yet? Benny left after the semi didn't he?

Big opportunity for someone to take on. A lot will depend on how many of the older girls stay on for another year though going by how this past two years have went there is a def hunger to win an All Ireland.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 29, 2023, 12:53:16 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on December 29, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2023, 12:29:02 AM
Quote from: Crossbar 1 on December 18, 2023, 10:44:45 PMLocal shopkeeper and Glenarrife man get the shamrocks top job over a team made up of a former double All Ireland winning manager along with a very strong back up team you couldn't write it.

Camogie job taken yet? Benny left after the semi didn't he?

Big opportunity for someone to take on. A lot will depend on how many of the older girls stay on for another year though going by how this past two years have went there is a def hunger to win an All Ireland.


They look to have finally got past the Slaughtneil hurdle so the opportunity is there to kick on and try to win one. They're not far off and have lost by small margins. I'm sure there will be a few good candidates throwing their names out there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on December 29, 2023, 07:46:11 PM
All star games cancelled tomorrow again, doubt they get played at this rate
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 01, 2024, 10:36:45 PM
That rain tonight could see the Mageean Cup final cancelled again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 02, 2024, 09:15:08 PM
Winning start to the Conor McGurk Cup for the Saffs. C and p of the team from the social media.

The Antrim team 🟡⚪️

1-Tiernan Smyth
2-Malachi McGibbon
3-Gerard Walsh
4-Ruairi McCormick
5-Daire McMullan
6-Conor Boyd
7-Darragh Patterson
8-Conal Bohill
9-Anthony McGarrigle
10-Eoin McFerran
11-Niall McKenna
12-Aodhan McGarry
13-Ryan Mort
14-Conal Cunning
15-Niall McGarrell

Bit of experience down the middle of the team and then a lot of younger players. With so many not playing this year it would be good to see some of the young boys step up and push their way into contention.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 03, 2024, 09:14:59 AM
Wont be too many of them young lads this year bar maybe smyth and mcferran. McGarrell possibly a squad member. Most of the rest arent even club seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Deerstalker on January 03, 2024, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 03, 2024, 09:14:59 AMWont be too many of them young lads this year bar maybe smyth and mcferran. McGarrell possibly a squad member. Most of the rest arent even club seniors

Yeah it was very experimental last night, not sure Gleeson is too bothered with the McGurk Cup with Walsh Cup this weekend too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Brendan on January 03, 2024, 01:44:34 PM
What is the mcgurk Cup format? Derry fielding an u20 side against what looked like an Armagh senior team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 03, 2024, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Brendan on January 03, 2024, 01:44:34 PMWhat is the mcgurk Cup format? Derry fielding an u20 side against what looked like an Armagh senior team?

It's entirely up to the counties as far as I know, some counties will just send out the guts of their U-20 teams, that's how Antrim usually treat it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on January 03, 2024, 03:44:46 PM
It was good to see a mix of younger lads from the U20 team get a run out with some of the senior lads.

The McGurk Cup gives counties the chance to throw a few lads in to see how they cope with it. Seemed a reasonably decent game by all accounts.

Either Dublin or Westmeath for the game on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 03, 2024, 10:44:19 PM
So St Killians get over the line in mageean final, they made hard work of it. Up 0-9 to 0-2 at one stage in first half but deserving winners in the end.

They looked a bit more polished in some key positions and physically a bit further on as they would be an older team than CPC.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 03, 2024, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 03, 2024, 10:44:19 PMSo St Killians get over the line in mageean final, they made hard work of it. Up 0-9 to 0-2 at one stage in first half but deserving winners in the end.

They looked a bit more polished in some key positions and physically a bit further on as they would be an older team than CPC.
CPC just didn't have it in key positions across the pitch. The Tower well worth the win. Amazing it has been so long since they've won it considering the teams they'd have had in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jonkunlon on January 04, 2024, 09:45:18 AM
That Was an entertaining game served up by the players. A great experience for them to play in such a venue and in front of a sizeable crowd.

All the great Dunloy, Loughgiel and Cushendall players on display and yet it was a player from Glenravel who lit up the game. Players and parents from smaller clubs should take note of the example set by Cormac McKeown. What a star in the making. Pace, tenacity and skill all there. Coincidentally CPC's number ten, Rosey, was also their best player on the evening though had to go off with cramp.

Lack of clean catching last night stood out. Must chat to some of the players, but you have to assume the lights had an impact on that front. On a large proportion of occasions players went with the stick when the catch was on.

CPC did well to curtail the threat of Joseph McLaughlin though he stood up when it mattered with his last two points. The one from play was exceptional, the free was from a very tight angle, impressive.

4 throw balls given. First two against CPC then two in their favour (to even it up). The slide tackle was the most controversial non-decision of the night. Clearly deliberate and overly aggressive - play on. There was one other big call - that was the red card for supposed deliberate striking off the ball. Ref gave a yellow - I think it was probably the right decision....but what would I know.

Fair play to both schools for serving up a great evening of hurling. 60 year gap bridged for Garron Tower. It's a great competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 04, 2024, 10:40:19 AM
Cormac has a years football and hurling at senior level under his belt. Great player to have coming through for Glenravel hurling especially
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on January 04, 2024, 08:58:09 PM
Niall Hynds at 13 is also a Con Magee
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PM
Cormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2024, 08:58:09 PMNiall Hynds at 13 is also a Con Magee

I wonder if there's a Downpatrick connection there!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on January 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

Yeah, it's tight alright. A rugby pitch.

I suppose when Mageean Cup Final is in December (for the supporters), it's really the only option travel wise.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

It's one of those 130 metre pitches, feckin hate those for anything above U15/16.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

Yeah, it's tight alright. A rugby pitch.

I suppose when Mageean Cup Final is in December (for the supporters), it's really the only option travel wise.



The main pitch at Dunsilly (weather permitting) would have been/ be a better option for players and spectators.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 05, 2024, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2024, 08:58:09 PMNiall Hynds at 13 is also a Con Magee

Brilliant. Hopefully they can push Glenravel forward hurling wise as they have shown they are a club on the up and by staying intermediate championship last year look to have big ambitions on the hurling front too.

Too many young lads throwing in a transfer form to a bigger club instead of throwing their shoulder to the wheel and helping their own club push on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

Yeah, it's tight alright. A rugby pitch.

I suppose when Mageean Cup Final is in December (for the supporters), it's really the only option travel wise.



The main pitch at Dunsilly (weather permitting) would have been/ be a better option for players and spectators.



Where was it played? Queens? The pitch is generally in great condition and yes it may be short but rucks happening more and more and the size of the pitch has nothing to do with it, possession hurling has a bigger say in how and way more rucks are occurring. As for viewing, Queens has a covered stand.

If it wasn't at Queens ignore everything I said, except the rucks lol
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

Yeah, it's tight alright. A rugby pitch.

I suppose when Mageean Cup Final is in December (for the supporters), it's really the only option travel wise.



The main pitch at Dunsilly (weather permitting) would have been/ be a better option for players and spectators.



Where was it played? Queens? The pitch is generally in great condition and yes it may be short but rucks happening more and more and the size of the pitch has nothing to do with it, possession hurling has a bigger say in how and way more rucks are occurring. As for viewing, Queens has a covered stand.

If it wasn't at Queens ignore everything I said, except the rucks lol

It was at Queens and agree the pitch is always in a decent standard but the length of the pitch definitely contributes to the type of game that it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 05, 2024, 09:10:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 05, 2024, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 04, 2024, 09:19:42 PMCormac McKeown had a great game as did Charlie McAuley at 6. Think 4 clubs had players on the panel. Cushendall, Glenariffe, Glenravel and Glenarm.

Probably a big factor was that Glenariffe team that won the All Ireland Feile a couple of years ago. A lot of those boys on this panel.

This had to be the year for the Tower. Think there was 11 of last season's starting 15 back again this year.

Interestingly, a lot was made of CPC being a young team but their average age was actually very slightly older than GT in the starting 15s.

Although it has been a good venue for the Final in the past couple of years, I think it may be time to look at a new spot for it. The pitch is way too short and narrow for hurling.

Even in an u19 game the bunching is ridiculous and leads to too many rucks and mauls.

Yeah, it's tight alright. A rugby pitch.

I suppose when Mageean Cup Final is in December (for the supporters), it's really the only option travel wise.



The main pitch at Dunsilly (weather permitting) would have been/ be a better option for players and spectators.



Where was it played? Queens? The pitch is generally in great condition and yes it may be short but rucks happening more and more and the size of the pitch has nothing to do with it, possession hurling has a bigger say in how and way more rucks are occurring. As for viewing, Queens has a covered stand.

If it wasn't at Queens ignore everything I said, except the rucks lol

It was at Queens and agree the pitch is always in a decent standard but the length of the pitch definitely contributes to the type of game that it was.
Shorter pitches do lead to poor games IMO. We'd a senior championship game on one of these pitches in the summer against Bredagh in Cherryvale and on at least four occasions the keeper hit a short puck out to a defender 30 metres out, the defender ran about another 5 metres and went for the score. The Bredagh centre back got two points doing this, now our lads were asleep at the wheel, both sets of forwards were got very little intentional ball into them as the scoring zones are now 75% of the pitch.

I'm being told our local council who are still on the hook for a MUGA on the peninsula able to support gaelic games are in the process of starting one just outside Portaferry in conjunction with the EA and it's to have a pitch 135 plus metres long and 90 wide, but I'll wait until I see it.

Jamie Bryson will be pleased  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 05, 2024, 08:41:11 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 04, 2024, 08:58:09 PMNiall Hynds at 13 is also a Con Magee

I wonder if there's a Downpatrick connection there!!!


I think there is, if his Da is big Ian, better known for the footballing exploits who happened to marry into the large Higgins crowd of females who were abound in the Elms back in the day.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on January 05, 2024, 04:00:08 PM
It was poor enough fare. Hurling in the first week in January will do that I suppose. The more physically developed team at this age won, which is often the case on heavy and smaller pitches.

I'm surprised it's taken the Tower so long to win it again since they changed their entry requirements. Back when it was a grammar school they didn't have big numbers to pick from. Going all abilities definitely gives them a bigger pick, they should be contenders most years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 05, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: Oso on January 05, 2024, 04:00:08 PMIt was poor enough fare. Hurling in the first week in January will do that I suppose. The more physically developed team at this age won, which is often the case on heavy and smaller pitches.

I'm surprised it's taken the Tower so long to win it again since they changed their entry requirements. Back when it was a grammar school they didn't have big numbers to pick from. Going all abilities definitely gives them a bigger pick, they should be contenders most years.

I think some people are forgetting neither team has had any meaningful challenge this year and their last competitive games were the Mageean semis at the start of November , and neither were competitive.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on January 05, 2024, 05:11:28 PM
So you're blaming the standard of the whole competition?

You're right, it should have been run off sooner. But if gearing up for the winners playing down south than maybe it should only be starting after Christmas and run off then, compressing the schedule?  If it had been completed in November would the standard have been any higher? Would it have made a difference? Then how do you spend your time preparing and ticking over to play down south in spring?   

The Macrory cup is down to last 16 which is kicking off now, but there are a lot more teams enter that.  Maybe the Mageean being run off earlier is to avoid a potential clash for dual schools so that hurling gets a fair crack of the whip in schools like St Pat's Maghera? It's bad enough the 2 Lavey lads getting kicked off their Macrory Cup panel for playing club hurling never mind guys having to choose between committing to school hurling or football competitions which might be run off at the same time?

I'm not sure what your post is angling at. I just thought it wasn't a great level, I've seen much better Mageean finals.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 05, 2024, 06:14:08 PM
Who is "blaming" anyone for anything you eejit ?

I am telling you both teams last played a competitive game in November, (which weren't competitive) they are young fellas playing on a big stage, you aren't going to get a consistent level of performance all the time at that age.

Not one GT player will give a fiddlers f**k what any of us think.

You have seen better Mageean finals ? Well done. There are no style points available though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 07:55:27 PM
"Get in your box"  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on January 06, 2024, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 05, 2024, 06:14:08 PMWho is "blaming" anyone for anything you eejit ?

I am telling you both teams last played a competitive game in November, (which weren't competitive) they are young fellas playing on a big stage, you aren't going to get a consistent level of performance all the time at that age.

Not one GT player will give a fiddlers f**k what any of us think.

You have seen better Mageean finals ? Well done. There are no style points available though.

So what was your point when you quoted me and referred to "some people are forgetting"?  What was I forgetting in reference to what?

On one hand you seem to be trying to justify that is wasn't great hurling by dismissing the standard of all the rest of the teams in the competition and also throwing in the long lay off since the beginning of November. On the other hand you are stating that it's "young fellas playing on a big stage" and "you're not going to get a consistent level of performance all the time at that age" implying that regardless of the standard of the rest of the teams and regardless of a long layoff that's what happens anyway at this age group.

So your point again that I was forgetting what in reference to what????  You don't have a point because you haven't made it clear.  I have an opinion, just as you do, and this is a forum where we can all post if we choose.

I merely asked you how do you think the running of the Mageean could be adjusted so that the issues you raised or pointed out could be addressed......otherwise they'll keep being issues.  Not forgetting there is an All Ireland colleges competition to play for after the Mageean and unless the tournament is rescheduled you're always going to encounter a long layoff somewhere along the line.

I'm sure the Tower boys won't give a toss what you or I think, you're right.  It'll be the pinnacle of many of their careers.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:25:24 PM
Why has mc louglan from cushendall comiited to Derry county hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:25:24 PMWhy has mc louglan from cushendall comiited to Derry county hurling.

Christy McNaughton I assume you mean ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:25:24 PMWhy has mc louglan from cushendall comiited to Derry county hurling.

Christy McNaughton I assume you mean ?

Oh sorry
I seen blue helmet and 15 thought it was mc loughlan
Long time since Christy looked like that
My bad


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 03:27:03 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 09, 2024, 03:25:24 PMWhy has mc louglan from cushendall comiited to Derry county hurling.

Christy McNaughton I assume you mean ?

Oh sorry
I seen blue helmet and 15 thought it was mc loughlan
Long time since Christy looked like that
My bad



I assume it's the Gaelic Life photo ? Which I assume is from the All Ireland club final against Na Pairsaigh in 2016, so almost 8 years ago. But it's a strange one.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 04:02:13 PM
Ridiculous move. Surely full fitness and a regular start for club would be a better goal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:03:14 PM
What's going on there? I don't have a subscription to the GL so don't even know what the story is.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:03:14 PMWhat's going on there? I don't have a subscription to the GL so don't even know what the story is.

Just that he is among the new faces with Derry hurlers, is there still a GPA grant for all IC players ?  ;) 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:09:22 PM
How does he qualify? Does he not live in cushendall and both parents are from there??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 09, 2024, 04:07:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:03:14 PMWhat's going on there? I don't have a subscription to the GL so don't even know what the story is.

Just that he is among the new faces with Derry hurlers, is there still a GPA grant for all IC players ?  ;) 
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:09:22 PMHow does he qualify? Does he not live in cushendall and both parents are from there??

does it matter? i thought you could IC transfer now up to 2 players
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 09, 2024, 04:17:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:09:22 PMHow does he qualify? Does he not live in cushendall and both parents are from there??

His mum is from Ballymena and his dad is Cushendall. I think his grandparents on his dad's side are possibly from Derry or certainly somewhere else as I remember one of the interviews Sambo done he spoke about how his parents were from elsewhere but ended up in Cushendall. Not sure if there's a granny rule in GAA like the old Republic of Ireland teams.

Interesting to see how he gets on. In terms of pure hurling he's got a lot of talent. Not going to play for Antrim now so there must be something that makes him eligible for Derry so good luck to the lad.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 04:20:24 PM
Hes a great fella in fairness so best wishes and hope it goes how he wishes. Might turn out good for him. Big preseaon, good level to play at and come back to the dall and be a big big player for them like he can be
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 09, 2024, 04:25:26 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 04:20:24 PMHes a great fella in fairness so best wishes and hope it goes how he wishes. Might turn out good for him. Big preseaon, good level to play at and come back to the dall and be a big big player for them like he can be

Derry will probably be at the business end of the Christy Ring Cup so he could certainly help them out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 04:28:23 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 09, 2024, 04:20:24 PMHes a great fella in fairness so best wishes and hope it goes how he wishes. Might turn out good for him. Big preseaon, good level to play at and come back to the dall and be a big big player for them like he can be

He's a massively skillful player - tbh there's not many I have seen in antrim more skillful than him but the physical demands of the modern game don't seem to suit him for whatever reason. Seems like a good spud and hope he does well. If he got himself into good physical shape he'd be a massive asset for cushendall.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jimmy on January 09, 2024, 04:45:29 PM
Living in Derry according to Gaelic life report (account needed to view). Still playing with Cushendall.

https://www.gaeliclife.com/news/mcnaughton-one-of-the-new-faces-in-the-derry-hurling-panel/
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2024, 07:03:15 PM
He's a top fella and plays with a smile on his face, quality stick man and can create some magic with a cheeky pass.

He'd benefit most teams in Ulster and this will certainly benefit both him and Cushendall, fair play Christy, hope it works out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on January 09, 2024, 07:08:37 PM
Alex O'Boyle from Glenariffe is playing his county hurling for Armagh.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 07:36:19 PM
Sean duffin played for Tyrone - dunno if he still does. Cj did for a bit too. A few players spreading their wings a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 09, 2024, 08:42:15 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 09, 2024, 07:08:37 PMAlex O'Boyle from Glenariffe is playing his county hurling for Armagh.


His Ma's from Portadown I think.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 10, 2024, 09:18:16 AM
Had a st endas lad at armagh last year too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2024, 09:34:19 AM
One in Fermanagh too but he is a Fermanagh guy.

Disappointing result against Down. The team out wasn't too bad either. We're missing quite a few this year - we will get stronger but not *that* much.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2024, 09:43:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2024, 09:34:19 AMOne in Fermanagh too but he is a Fermanagh guy.

Disappointing result against Down. The team out wasn't too bad either. We're missing quite a few this year - we will get stronger but not *that* much.

Its not an overly strong team Tommy, and we have better than that to come into the game.

This year certainly in the league we have a free shot.. Maintaining McCarthy cup status will be the priority..

Nets will be an issue to resolve with Elliot away for the year, he's been a big part of that defence and will be missed, a difficult position to fill
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 10, 2024, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2024, 09:43:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2024, 09:34:19 AMOne in Fermanagh too but he is a Fermanagh guy.

Disappointing result against Down. The team out wasn't too bad either. We're missing quite a few this year - we will get stronger but not *that* much.

Its not an overly strong team Tommy, and we have better than that to come into the game.

This year certainly in the league we have a free shot.. Maintaining McCarthy cup status will be the priority..

Nets will be an issue to resolve with Elliot away for the year, he's been a big part of that defence and will be missed, a difficult position to fill

Looked like a strong enough Down team in the first half, but they emptied the bench from half time on and would be happy enough with the win all in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 10, 2024, 11:17:44 AM
Strong as in senior players yes but youve a lot of talent to bring in. Cambpell Burke and Walsh. I just fear for us up top this year. Weve lost Keelans 2 or 3 points and Neils contribution too. Paul Boyle hopefully can do well in place of Keelan and Conor McCann to hopefully be a ball winner
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on January 10, 2024, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 07:36:19 PMSean duffin played for Tyrone - dunno if he still does. Cj did for a bit too. A few players spreading their wings a bit.

Sean is away to Australia so not with Tyrone this year coming.

Big, big loss for TNN for the coming season in both codes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 10, 2024, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 10, 2024, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 09, 2024, 07:36:19 PMSean duffin played for Tyrone - dunno if he still does. Cj did for a bit too. A few players spreading their wings a bit.

Sean is away to Australia so not with Tyrone this year coming.

Big, big loss for TNN for the coming season in both codes.

Great hurler. Cursed his name a few times over the last year with a few good performances. One of the matches he came on as a second half sub and scored 10 points.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 02:12:51 PM
Dubs ahead by 10 at HT. Looking the much better team ATM.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Upandover on January 14, 2024, 02:47:23 PM
Dubs head and shoulders above antrim today, tough campaigns ahead without mcmanus and the dunloy lads.

Antrim puckouts a real issue today, defensively very poor also.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2024, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: Upandover on January 14, 2024, 02:47:23 PMDubs head and shoulders above antrim today, tough campaigns ahead without mcmanus and the dunloy lads.

Antrim puckouts a real issue today, defensively very poor also.

New keeper and some new players to bed in..

Dublin have plenty of depth, Antrim not so much..

But good work going on with the under 21's few injuries to contend with.

Unfortunately didn't get the Westmeath game last week as that's our level of just above them recently
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 03:21:57 PM
I think the target this season has to be to not take too far of a step back. While we would love to be looking up there's been too much change to the starting 15 and maintaining our status would be very good this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2024, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 03:21:57 PMI think the target this season has to be to not take too far of a step back. While we would love to be looking up there's been too much change to the starting 15 and maintaining our status would be very good this year.

Don't think the leagues are changing too much so it's a free shot this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 14, 2024, 03:46:15 PM
Dublin given serious space there. Has micheal Bradley pulled the plug to, he's our best winter hurler.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on January 14, 2024, 08:26:08 PM
Pretty sure Michael Bradley is recovering from a shoulder injury from last year but very much expected to play this year - anyone know different?

How far is Ciaran Clarke from returning?

Is Conor Johnston still on the panel this year?

Nigel Elliott? Has he walked too? If so disappointing having only rejoined last year.

I hope we haven't lost too much experience and replaced totally with younger guys. Div 1 needs a fair bit of steel that i feel comes with age
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PM
The ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 15, 2024, 12:47:07 PM
Surprised to see Coby off the frees. Was he carrying an injury or was never getting the full game so started mcmullan who they had planned 70mins?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 15, 2024, 12:52:34 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 15, 2024, 12:47:07 PMSurprised to see Coby off the frees. Was he carrying an injury or was never getting the full game so started mcmullan who they had planned 70mins?

I assume just testing him for down the road, if Coby can't play or isn't going well on them. Just another option I'm guessing. Now is the time to try these things when it doesent really matter.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 15, 2024, 01:13:23 PM
Coby definitely took 3 or 4 in the first half as I was wondering (again) about the action he uses every time. Early on it seemed Rian took a few close in ones and Coby the ones further out as he was playing much deeper.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 15, 2024, 01:16:05 PM
James McNaughton is also a decent long range free taker
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffron123 on January 16, 2024, 12:01:28 PM
Ryan Elliott and the GF travelling for the full year, Keelan M & Seaan E both heading to Australia. Nigel heading shortly to work in Dubai.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 16, 2024, 12:10:57 PM
Theres no way dunloy win another championship without those 4
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2024, 12:29:43 PM
Championship a good while away though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2024, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

So what way will the NHL be run this year? I don't think there is relegation as such.. Winning one game to stay in LMcC will be the objective and trying to unearth some new talent

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 16, 2024, 03:03:52 PM
It's 1A & 1B in 2025, (6 teams each) that will be determined where you finish this year. So you are right, no league relegation as such this year. And we are never going to be high enough this year to qualify for 1A next year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2024, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

So what way will the NHL be run this year? I don't think there is relegation as such.. Winning one game to stay in LMcC will be the objective and trying to unearth some new talent



Top 3 in 1a and 1b will form 1a in 2025 along with the winner of a playoff between the two 4th place teams.

Loser of that playoff will join the other div 1 teams and 2 from div 2 in 1b for next year.

If we had everyone available I'd probably target making that 4th place match up by beating Westmeath and Dublin but can't see us beating Dublin now so probably going to be 1b.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2024, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2024, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

So what way will the NHL be run this year? I don't think there is relegation as such.. Winning one game to stay in LMcC will be the objective and trying to unearth some new talent



Top 3 in 1a and 1b will form 1a in 2025 along with the winner of a playoff between the two 4th place teams.

Loser of that playoff will join the other div 1 teams and 2 from div 2 in 1b for next year.

If we had everyone available I'd probably target making that 4th place match up by beating Westmeath and Dublin but can't see us beating Dublin now so probably going to be 1b.

Which will be our level and very competitive to, its all fine and dandy having a status of being in Div1 A but getting hammered weekly isn't going to improve us either too much
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2024, 03:53:07 PM
1b is where we're at if that's how it goes and if we get players back hopefully be mid table and push for higher up but if we don't get players back then probably be a few relegation fights.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 16, 2024, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 16, 2024, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 14, 2024, 08:42:25 PMThe ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

We'd three senior hurlers take off to Australia "for the year" and they still haven't returned and that's 5 years later.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 17, 2024, 09:39:49 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 16, 2024, 12:29:43 PMChampionship a good while away though.

If youre gone for work be doubtful to be back and less likely to be back early if away with the woman. Keelan and Seann maybe get a few months wrecking done and come home. Youve some decent young dunloy talent in Daire McMullan and the young All Saints lad but will be lacking scorers
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 20, 2024, 07:57:40 PM
I hope we got the Fibrus sponsorship money up front  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2024, 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 20, 2024, 07:57:40 PMI hope we got the Fibrus sponsorship money up front  :o

The company has done what they can do and that part of the job is completed

I'm not sure the company has finished  what comes next?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 20, 2024, 09:54:09 PM
The company isn't finished though so don't see why they are going through should cause an issue with sponsorship?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 22, 2024, 09:19:55 AM
Any injury update on ciaran clarke? will he feature in the league at all? Can Rian McMullan cement a starting place? Heard Joe McLaughlin was added to the panel any truth?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 24, 2024, 07:33:11 PM
How's Christy McNaughton able to play for Derry hurlers?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2024, 08:01:21 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2024, 07:33:11 PMHow's Christy McNaughton able to play for Derry hurlers?

Thought this was common enough
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 08:44:19 AM
Do you not need some link or is this because there are different rules in hurling?

I think he could be a big success for then.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on January 25, 2024, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 08:44:19 AMDo you not need some link or is this because there are different rules in hurling?

I think he could be a big success for then.

Pretty sure so called 'weaker' counties are allowed sanctions, not too sure what the rules are for it. but remember reading bout it few years ago.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 11:01:59 AM
Yeah was wondering was it that.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PM
As christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 12:43:29 PM
Yeah think he's bang on tbh. Wouldn't begrudge him it - hope he's the better player for it and kicks on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PMAs christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties

And because it's Sambos son Brendan Crossan is never too far away & produces an article about it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PM
Is the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PMAs christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties

And because it's Sambos son Brendan Crossan is never too far away & produces an article about it

 ;D

Very true.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2024, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

I heard that myself but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on January 25, 2024, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PMAs christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties

And because it's Sambos son Brendan Crossan is never too far away & produces an article about it

 ;D

Very true.

Also must be said that if this is a reflection of where Derry are then questions need to be asked.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 25, 2024, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

I heard that myself but I doubt it.

It's a brave trek from Ballycastle to Sarsfields for training/matches
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Link on January 25, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PMAs christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties

which other antrim hurlers, living in antrim, are playing for other counties?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on January 25, 2024, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 25, 2024, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

I heard that myself but I doubt it.


It's a brave trek from Ballycastle to Sarsfields for training/matches


Same rumour every pre season. As far as ive been made aware Niall has made it clear while he's competitive nothing changes, sarsfields man playing for sarsfields. As time moves on and standards drop he might re-evaluate

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

same rumours floated about michael bradley to dunloy a few years ago? Modern day problems, back in my day it was the woman had to move lol

On the transfer market rumour mill I heard from a close friend from all saints one of their best prospects has upped sticks to the current senior champs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: Link on January 25, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 12:37:24 PMAs christy says himself if he wasnt sambos son it wouldnt be mentioned. other antrim lads hurling for other counties

which other antrim hurlers, living in antrim, are playing for other counties?

Alex O'Boyle from Glenariffe hurling for Armagh, Not sure if they are back this year but Sean Duffin played for Tyrone last year(someone here said hes away abroad now) and jennings from St Endas played for Armagh last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:30:07 PM
Its pretty rife down south. Can't see us ever benefitting from it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:33:49 PM
This was all discussed a few pages back, including Christy's eligibility to Derry through his mother.

And yes, Sean Duffin played for Tyrone last year but is away to Australia this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:33:49 PMThis was all discussed a few pages back, including Christy's eligibility to Derry through his mother.

And yes, Sean Duffin played for Tyrone last year but is away to Australia this year.

You don't need to be "eligible" through a family member, counties outside of Liam MacCarthy & Div 1 in the National League can have up to three in any year & they remain with their original club outside the county they play for.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 25, 2024, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:30:07 PMIts pretty rife down south. Can't see us ever benefitting from it!

Antrim are a tier one county, so unless someone does a full county transfer Antrim won't benefit from this.

Derry being a tier 2 county can register lads from tier 1 counties but I thought you at least had to be living in that county. Evidently not

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 25, 2024, 05:04:53 PM
Don't have that much knowledge of that many but there was a boy from Tipp played for Kildare for years (Kennedy I think) and pretty sure he didn't live there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on January 25, 2024, 06:00:12 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 03:45:53 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on January 25, 2024, 03:33:49 PMThis was all discussed a few pages back, including Christy's eligibility to Derry through his mother.

And yes, Sean Duffin played for Tyrone last year but is away to Australia this year.

You don't need to be "eligible" through a family member, counties outside of Liam MacCarthy & Div 1 in the National League can have up to three in any year & they remain with their original club outside the county they play for.

Yeah, I think David Reidy played for Kildare for a year or two before going back to the Linerick set-up.

Lower tier are like a feeder club in soccer, if you will.

Transfer, get first team action, harden you up then back a better player.

I think I remember an article about Cavan starting up senior hurling again and they had a few Dublin lads (iirc) playing for them. Via their mother.

Can be done.  Maybe more lower teams should be looking at thst route?  8)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on January 25, 2024, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

same rumours floated about michael bradley to dunloy a few years ago? Modern day problems, back in my day it was the woman had to move lol

On the transfer market rumour mill I heard from a close friend from all saints one of their best prospects has upped sticks to the current senior champs

I think that was done last year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: BrendanAntrim on January 25, 2024, 11:32:14 PM


I think I remember an article about Cavan starting up senior hurling again and they had a few Dublin lads (iirc) playing for them. Via their mother.

Can be done.  Maybe more lower teams should be looking at thst route?  8)
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'Via their mother' that suggests there does have to be some link? Other posts suggest no link required if up to three players. It's an interesting one - be good to get some clarity. Good luck to Christy all the same, I hope he does well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 26, 2024, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on January 25, 2024, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

same rumours floated about michael bradley to dunloy a few years ago? Modern day problems, back in my day it was the woman had to move lol

On the transfer market rumour mill I heard from a close friend from all saints one of their best prospects has upped sticks to the current senior champs

I think that was done last year.

happened last year also. fresh one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:19:45 AM
Declare for the County of the First County of either of my parents
OR
(b) Play for my County of Residence (Provided this County is a designated County as provided for in
Condition (1) below; while continuing to be eligible to play with my Home Club.
Conditions
1) The County availing of this Rule is not participating in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam
McCarthy Cup) or Division 1 of the National League.
2) A County of availing of this Rule may have a maximum of three such players sanctioned in any Championship
Year
3) The Permission of a Player's Own County must be obtained.
4) A Player may avail of this Rule for only one county and may not declare for an Own County for football.
5) If a clash of Championship Fixtures arises between that of a Player's Own Club and that of the County availing of
this Rule, the player shall play with his Own Club.
6) Permission to avail of this Rule shall be for one Championship Year at a time, and application must be made
annually for renewal of permission. The closing date for Applications each year shall be the 31st March.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:25:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:19:45 AMDeclare for the County of the First County of either of my parents
OR
(b) Play for my County of Residence (Provided this County is a designated County as provided for in
Condition (1) below; while continuing to be eligible to play with my Home Club.
Conditions
1) The County availing of this Rule is not participating in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam
McCarthy Cup) or Division 1 of the National League.
2) A County of availing of this Rule may have a maximum of three such players sanctioned in any Championship
Year
3) The Permission of a Player's Own County must be obtained.
4) A Player may avail of this Rule for only one county and may not declare for an Own County for football.
5) If a clash of Championship Fixtures arises between that of a Player's Own Club and that of the County availing of
this Rule, the player shall play with his Own Club.
6) Permission to avail of this Rule shall be for one Championship Year at a time, and application must be made
annually for renewal of permission. The closing date for Applications each year shall be the 31st March.

Christy's Ma a Derry woman?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:25:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:19:45 AMDeclare for the County of the First County of either of my parents
OR
(b) Play for my County of Residence (Provided this County is a designated County as provided for in
Condition (1) below; while continuing to be eligible to play with my Home Club.
Conditions
1) The County availing of this Rule is not participating in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam
McCarthy Cup) or Division 1 of the National League.
2) A County of availing of this Rule may have a maximum of three such players sanctioned in any Championship
Year
3) The Permission of a Player's Own County must be obtained.
4) A Player may avail of this Rule for only one county and may not declare for an Own County for football.
5) If a clash of Championship Fixtures arises between that of a Player's Own Club and that of the County availing of
this Rule, the player shall play with his Own Club.
6) Permission to avail of this Rule shall be for one Championship Year at a time, and application must be made
annually for renewal of permission. The closing date for Applications each year shall be the 31st March.

Christy's Ma a Derry woman?



No Ballymena, are youse all missing the "OR" ?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 26, 2024, 09:25:50 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 26, 2024, 09:19:45 AMDeclare for the County of the First County of either of my parents
OR
(b) Play for my County of Residence (Provided this County is a designated County as provided for in
Condition (1) below; while continuing to be eligible to play with my Home Club.
Conditions
1) The County availing of this Rule is not participating in the All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam
McCarthy Cup) or Division 1 of the National League.
2) A County of availing of this Rule may have a maximum of three such players sanctioned in any Championship
Year
3) The Permission of a Player's Own County must be obtained.
4) A Player may avail of this Rule for only one county and may not declare for an Own County for football.
5) If a clash of Championship Fixtures arises between that of a Player's Own Club and that of the County availing of
this Rule, the player shall play with his Own Club.
6) Permission to avail of this Rule shall be for one Championship Year at a time, and application must be made
annually for renewal of permission. The closing date for Applications each year shall be the 31st March.

Christy's Ma a Derry woman?



No Ballymena, are youse all missing the "OR" ?  ;D

In the article he says he still lives in Cushendall, so unless there's another "OR" I'm struggling with this one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on January 26, 2024, 10:01:58 AM
I assume he is using a Derry address, the fact that the GAA let you play for another county but play for your home club says it all.

Don't think they are too bothered about checking any evidence that you live in your adopted county.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: let it fly on January 26, 2024, 10:20:21 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 25, 2024, 02:24:53 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 25, 2024, 12:45:55 PMIs the talk of Niall McKenna transferring to Ballycastle just that ? Talk ?

same rumours floated about michael bradley to dunloy a few years ago? Modern day problems, back in my day it was the woman had to move lol

On the transfer market rumour mill I heard from a close friend from all saints one of their best prospects has upped sticks to the current senior champs

This is true, I think he hurled underage at a stage for Cushendall when Ballymena couldn't field, a great player should push for a starting place for Cushendall id imagine
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 26, 2024, 10:35:06 AM
I don't know Ballymena that well but any reports I read there's a boy who's a very high scorer for them. Is it him? Neeson is it?

The McGarrys are with Dunloy so not them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: let it fly on January 26, 2024, 11:19:59 AM
Ciaran Neeson yes
Any news on the league fixtures release?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:07 PM
Meetings Monday and when the clubs agree on the fixtures I'd imagine they will be available through your club Sec

Groundhog time of year again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on January 26, 2024, 01:50:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 26, 2024, 10:35:06 AMI don't know Ballymena that well but any reports I read there's a boy who's a very high scorer for them. Is it him? Neeson is it?

The McGarrys are with Dunloy so not them.

Fairly brutal on a small club losing these. Rich get richer poor get poorer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:07 PMMeetings Monday and when the clubs agree on the fixtures I'd imagine they will be available through your club Sec

Groundhog time of year again

What exactly gets agreed? Start dates?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on January 26, 2024, 01:50:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 26, 2024, 10:35:06 AMI don't know Ballymena that well but any reports I read there's a boy who's a very high scorer for them. Is it him? Neeson is it?

The McGarrys are with Dunloy so not them.

Fairly brutal on a small club losing these. Rich get richer poor get poorer

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 12:53:07 PMMeetings Monday and when the clubs agree on the fixtures I'd imagine they will be available through your club Sec

Groundhog time of year again

What exactly gets agreed? Start dates?

I'd say that the fixtures and start dates are already pumped into the computer after the finalising of teams in the leagues and dates would be known as the County work from the national leagues and championships of the intercounty teams

I suppose its just down to the clubs to agree that they are happy with that set up, as they may have certain things fixed in stone or pitch development arranged and stag weekends to prepare
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 01, 2024, 12:44:05 PM
Are we just ignoring the weekend then lads  ;)

Actually starts in Round 2?  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 01, 2024, 01:03:26 PM
Tough start in a serious hard group! Decent performance required never mind the result. Dublin at home and Westmeath away will define our season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 01, 2024, 12:44:05 PMAre we just ignoring the weekend then lads  ;)

Actually starts in Round 2?  ;D

Limerick won't have done much training and better to meet them now rather than later on in the season when they get up to speed..

Remember its a free shot this year and don't get the expectations up. good performance and racking up 20 points plus the odd goal should be the aim at the weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PM
Why is that game in Thurles?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 01, 2024, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PMWhy is that game in Thurles?

Think they are doing some sort of repairs in Gaelic Grounds
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PMWhy is that game in Thurles?

So Darren hasn't to go that far!

Was chatting to him the other week, good guy, bumped into him at my Spar, lets just say its not a place that a Tipp man would normally be seen it with an Antrim trackie and hat!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PMWhy is that game in Thurles?

So Darren hasn't to go that far!

Was chatting to him the other week, good guy, bumped into him at my Spar, lets just say its not a place that a Tipp man would normally be seen it with an Antrim trackie and hat!

Sure 30 years ago some of us thought nothing of standing on the Shore Road outside UUJ on a dark winters night with the hurl and kitbag trying to flag down a black taxi to take you back into Belfast, I kid you not.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PMWhy is that game in Thurles?

So Darren hasn't to go that far!

Was chatting to him the other week, good guy, bumped into him at my Spar, lets just say its not a place that a Tipp man would normally be seen it with an Antrim trackie and hat!

Sure 30 years ago some of us thought nothing of standing on the Shore Road outside UUJ on a dark winters night with the hurl and kitbag trying to flag down a black taxi to take you back into Belfast, I kid you not.



I remember those black hacks from Monkstown and Rathcoole, dropped you off at Bridge street, driver tattooed with all sorts of lovely drawings  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: thegladiator on February 02, 2024, 08:04:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2024, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 01, 2024, 01:20:01 PMWhy is that game in Thurles?

So Darren hasn't to go that far!

Was chatting to him the other week, good guy, bumped into him at my Spar, lets just say its not a place that a Tipp man would normally be seen it with an Antrim trackie and hat!

Sure 30 years ago some of us thought nothing of standing on the Shore Road outside UUJ on a dark winters night with the hurl and kitbag trying to flag down a black taxi to take you back into Belfast, I kid you not.


100%! Some scary thoughts entered your head when you went off the main roads into rathcoole and other such places. Looking back at around 1993 and all that was going on, it was mental to do that. The innocence/bravado of youth!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 02, 2024, 08:35:42 AM
My da still gets worried if I go near east belfast  ;D (The above would feel like madness - I lived in the country till post GFA so have never experienced much in Belfast and would have played indoor soccer on the shankill regularly).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: let it fly on February 03, 2024, 11:55:26 PM
What do we think of Sundays team? New look sort of line up hopefully the boys give a decent account of themselves
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on February 04, 2024, 03:57:38 PM
Limerick 1-36 Antrim 1-9

Didn't expect anything much different to that in fairness
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2024, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 04, 2024, 03:57:38 PMLimerick 1-36 Antrim 1-9

Didn't expect anything much different to that in fairness

Competitive for 25 minutes, difficult opening game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 04, 2024, 06:39:20 PM
0-2 in the second half not great
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 06, 2024, 12:35:14 PM
Can we turn Dublin over? Gerard Walsh, James McNaughton, Eoghan Campbell and Niall McKenna all missed the Limerick game. If these 4 are available you'd like to think we have a chance. Donal Burke a hugh loss for Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2024, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 06, 2024, 12:35:14 PMCan we turn Dublin over? Gerard Walsh, James McNaughton, Eoghan Campbell and Niall McKenna all missed the Limerick game. If these 4 are available you'd like to think we have a chance. Donal Burke a hugh loss for Dublin

Tipp were flying against Dublin, not sure if Tipp are further on in their league prep or Dublin just were not at the races but Dublin are still a decent tier 2 team and we'd not a top performance with all our best players available for that game to get anything from it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2024, 01:39:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2024, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 06, 2024, 12:35:14 PMCan we turn Dublin over? Gerard Walsh, James McNaughton, Eoghan Campbell and Niall McKenna all missed the Limerick game. If these 4 are available you'd like to think we have a chance. Donal Burke a hugh loss for Dublin

Tipp were flying against Dublin, not sure if Tipp are further on in their league prep or Dublin just were not at the races but Dublin are still a decent tier 2 team and we'd not a top performance with all our best players available for that game to get anything from it

Very little between the teams in Corrigan last year. Was a really competitive game actually.

I would say if anything we have dipped a little but going by Sunday so have they, but hard to judge how strong Tipp were.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2024, 01:59:05 PM
I don't think we're at the level of a Dublin with the players we are missing unfortunately  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 06, 2024, 02:36:06 PM
Corrigan and Donal Burke are a leveller. I think we could be surprised this weekend
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on February 08, 2024, 08:33:45 AM
£18 seems a bit much for a National League game at Corrigan is it Croke Park set the prices for league games?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 08:46:17 AM
I think it's standard per division football and hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 08, 2024, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 08:46:17 AMI think it's standard per division football and hurling.

Yeah it's higher because we are Div 1, I assume the football is cheaper in Div 3. It is expensive but the Gaa don't care
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2024, 09:51:01 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2024, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2024, 08:46:17 AMI think it's standard per division football and hurling.

Yeah it's higher because we are Div 1, I assume the football is cheaper in Div 3. It is expensive but the Gaa don't care

It's Live on TG4 Sport for free for those short of a few quid
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: scamroc on February 08, 2024, 06:34:43 PM
Any feedback from the meeting on Monday about the hurling leagues?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 09, 2024, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: scamroc on February 08, 2024, 06:34:43 PMAny feedback from the meeting on Monday about the hurling leagues?

not sure anything was decided
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:24:28 PM
That was a good performance but gutting the way it panned out. Definitely pleased that new players look not too bad but definitely one that got away.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 11, 2024, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:24:28 PMThat was a good performance but gutting the way it panned out. Definitely pleased that new players look not too bad but definitely one that got away.

Yep, that's as poor as I have seen Dublin. They were never winning that without the clanger from Smyth in nets, brutal mistake.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2024, 03:42:45 PM
Hard luck
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 11, 2024, 03:55:32 PM
4th place would have done Antrim no favours anyway if it meant a place in Div 1A next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2024, 04:08:10 PM
Difficult one to take..

It's a learning curve for some but look, this year is a free hit for the league
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PM
What even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2024, 05:43:18 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Most of my playing career would have been corner back. That ball dropped to the keeper, it wasn't dealt with by the keeper and defender... both had opportunities to win the ball.

Didn't and that's where we are at. I'm not available any more lol  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Goalie pulled ball down from going over the bar with his stick and it dropped in behind the line
Forward came in an fouled him afterwards but by that time he was picking ball out of net area just behind the line.
Bad mistake but like most of these things there was plenty of players outfield that fumbled ball and lost possession leading to scores.
Between that and the Dublin physio delaying play and the time not added on, it was a sick way to lose the points.

Good to have Campbell and mc Kenna back, some of the new players struggled but let's judge them after a full league campaign.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 07:17:22 PM
Yeah I thought there should have been more time on too. We played well and were the better team tbh. Disappointing we couldn't close it out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 11, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Goalie pulled ball down from going over the bar with his stick and it dropped in behind the line
Forward came in an fouled him afterwards but by that time he was picking ball out of net area just behind the line.
Bad mistake but like most of these things there was plenty of players outfield that fumbled ball and lost possession leading to scores.
Between that and the Dublin physio delaying play and the time not added on, it was a sick way to lose the points.

Good to have Campbell and mc Kenna back, some of the new players struggled but let's judge them after a full league campaign.

It was a strange one, I had a good view of it. When he pulled it down he panicked badly, and I think he actually knocked it in with his hand when the ball was on the ground.

You wouldn't see that too often and hopefully he recovers from it quickly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 11, 2024, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 11, 2024, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Goalie pulled ball down from going over the bar with his stick and it dropped in behind the line
Forward came in an fouled him afterwards but by that time he was picking ball out of net area just behind the line.
Bad mistake but like most of these things there was plenty of players outfield that fumbled ball and lost possession leading to scores.
Between that and the Dublin physio delaying play and the time not added on, it was a sick way to lose the points.

Good to have Campbell and mc Kenna back, some of the new players struggled but let's judge them after a full league campaign.

It was a strange one, I had a good view of it. When he pulled it down he panicked badly, and I think he actually knocked it in with his hand when the ball was on the ground.

You wouldn't see that too often and hopefully he recovers from it quickly.

I think it was given as an own goal.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2024, 07:34:14 PM
Think there was a minute of extra injury time played.

Regardless of the goal, Antrim played well, we were composed for most of the game, we missed 2, at least simple frees, but that mistake at the end proved costly

Considering the defeat last day out and how we performed today, I'm happy at our development so far
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Goalie pulled ball down from going over the bar with his stick and it dropped in behind the line
Forward came in an fouled him afterwards but by that time he was picking ball out of net area just behind the line.
Bad mistake but like most of these things there was plenty of players outfield that fumbled ball and lost possession leading to scores.
Between that and the Dublin physio delaying play and the time not added on, it was a sick way to lose the points.

Good to have Campbell and mc Kenna back, some of the new players struggled but let's judge them after a full league campaign.

That makes sense actually. I saw the stick going up and thought it was the usual that the goalies do when the balls going over the bar. So he pulled it down and into the goal, disaster.

I thought Coby was brilliant as was Niall McKenna. Coby's goal was brilliant TBF. Great catch, then he was taking the point then realised he had space and finished brilliantly.

Hopefully we can bring a few of that bench on and get them time on the pitch. Still very young but it would be good to see them kick on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 08:56:21 AM
Our work rate was very good and our strength in the tackle was very good particularly considering that there are a lot of new younger guys. Some tough games ahead and Westmeath definitely got a lot closer to Limerick than we did bu bare minimum be hoping for some points there. There's a good few to come back too so hopefully there's a good bit of room for improvement. We were the better team in yesterday's game which is probably the most frustrating thing especially with points being so hard to come by.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 09:02:50 AM
I don't think Corrigan is doing us any favours as a home venue.

Pitch is way too tight and our lighter lads are struggling to make any impact. Maybe it does help against the top tier teams, but against the Dublins etc it to me is a disadvantage. Took many rucks and scraps and not enough space.

2 points that slipped away yesterday for sure, I think once we got back into it, we went three points up twice only to be caught. Inexperienced team so that can maybe be forgiven.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 12, 2024, 09:27:37 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on February 11, 2024, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 11, 2024, 04:53:46 PMWhat even happened with the goal? It looked like he was waving it over the bar then it's right in the goalmouth? Second half I thought Antrim were brilliant

Goalie pulled ball down from going over the bar with his stick and it dropped in behind the line
Forward came in an fouled him afterwards but by that time he was picking ball out of net area just behind the line.
Bad mistake but like most of these things there was plenty of players outfield that fumbled ball and lost possession leading to scores.
Between that and the Dublin physio delaying play and the time not added on, it was a sick way to lose the points.

Good to have Campbell and mc Kenna back, some of the new players struggled but let's judge them after a full league campaign.

That was a serious bit of ballbaggery from the Dublin physio. There was at least 2 minutes of the ref and linesman discussing what had happened which was not played.

Id say Antrim could have gotten a draw as their tails were up at that stage following Bradley's point if the correct time had been played. 2 points dropped unfortunately due to a lucky goal against the run of play.

7 starters out for yesterdays match and Id like to have seen Conor McCann in at full forward, but the lads who came in all put in a serious shift.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 10:31:36 AM
These games will do lads the world of good. Thought O'Connor in midfield put in a serious shift! Scott Walshs scores were excellent. O'Brien too worked hard and won a lot of ball. McMullan and McLaughlin can hurl at that level just need a few more games to get up to the speed/physicality. Smyth getting the headlines is wrong. Saved a few other efforts that were going over the bar. Took a gamble, didnt come off, team game move on!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 10:36:45 AM
Agreed on the goalie shouldn't be taking that much flak. There should have been a lot more time added on as has been said. Didn't understand what was going on there.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 10:42:36 AM
Preventing a ball going over the bar by a keeper is pretty standard stuff, all keepers in games do it, just on this occasion it didn't work out.

I wouldn't be hard on him for that, we missed a few handy ones outfield that normally are bread and butter to these lads

So as said already here, collectively the team takes that on the chin, learn from it and move on to the next game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 10:59:34 AM
Yeah there's plenty to work on. Should have won but didn't and we move on but honestly I thought that was a decent performance especially considering how many new guys there are. In reality Dublin would be expecting to beat us and maybe beat us by a bit and we were the better team. Yes they have their own players missing etc but I doubt many teams at this level will have as many missing as we have this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 12, 2024, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 10:59:34 AMYeah there's plenty to work on. Should have won but didn't and we move on but honestly I thought that was a decent performance especially considering how many new guys there are. In reality Dublin would be expecting to beat us and maybe beat us by a bit and we were the better team. Yes they have their own players missing etc but I doubt many teams at this level will have as many missing as we have this year.

As I as said yesterday I thought Dublin were really poor, obviously missing their best forward in Donal Burke but they don't really seem to be progressing at all. Was impressed with the midfielder Hayes, talk about fast.

Campbell is no slouch and he couldn't get within 5 yds one time chasing him
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PM
I thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PMI thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.

He does and is a more natural 6, but he is probably robbing Peter to pay Paul at this stage. R McGarry did a great job at 6 and Campbell does offer more going forward. Just a difficult place for them at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PMI thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.

To be fair most players struggle when people run at them at pace?

We looked good in stages, Coby makes so much happen, his range of passing and link up play is exceptional
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PMI thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.

He does and is a more natural 6, but he is probably robbing Peter to pay Paul at this stage. R McGarry did a great job at 6 and Campbell does offer more going forward. Just a difficult place for them at the minute.

Hes not exactly a man marking 6. If hes hurling midfield he'll naturally drop and if we've forward numbered players dropping into midfield i think that works well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 12:42:17 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PMI thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.

He does and is a more natural 6, but he is probably robbing Peter to pay Paul at this stage. R McGarry did a great job at 6 and Campbell does offer more going forward. Just a difficult place for them at the minute.

Hes not exactly a man marking 6. If hes hurling midfield he'll naturally drop and if we've forward numbered players dropping into midfield i think that works well

But again comes back to my point about Corrigan.

Because that sector is so congested it doesn't suit that type of player. EC is brilliant at coming on to the ball and bursting through that sector from deeper, when there are so many bodies in that space this becomes increasingly difficult.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PM
What county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 02:25:15 PM
A big pitch would not suit us. We've done well in Corrigan as of late. We just need bodies back. Galway in two weeks. Can we compete?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2024, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 12:08:48 PMI thought Donoghue would have done a much better job with them tbh. Campbell a great player but I think he struggles a bit when players run at him at pace.

He does and is a more natural 6, but he is probably robbing Peter to pay Paul at this stage. R McGarry did a great job at 6 and Campbell does offer more going forward. Just a difficult place for them at the minute.

Hes not exactly a man marking 6. If hes hurling midfield he'll naturally drop and if we've forward numbered players dropping into midfield i think that works well

Most No. 6's don't man mark.  They just sit in that pocket and kill space.

The No. 11 wants to create the space by taking No. 6 out to the wings and out into mid-field etc.

Look at Hannon and Richie Reid etc. They all sit in that pocket and direct play.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.

I didn't say it wasn't small, its how hurling has developed. Pitch size won't stop rucks in hurling. Possession hurling is a big part of that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 13, 2024, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.

I didn't say it wasn't small, its how hurling has developed. Pitch size won't stop rucks in hurling. Possession hurling is a big part of that

Possession hurling done badly causes rucks, done well means you retain possession, hence less rucks.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 13, 2024, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 13, 2024, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.

I didn't say it wasn't small, its how hurling has developed. Pitch size won't stop rucks in hurling. Possession hurling is a big part of that

Possession hurling done badly causes rucks, done well means you retain possession, hence less rucks.



Exactly JC - make that two teams attempting it without great success makes for even more
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Franko on February 13, 2024, 03:29:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.

I didn't say it wasn't small, its how hurling has developed. Pitch size won't stop rucks in hurling. Possession hurling is a big part of that

It won't stop them - but it will reduce them - all other things being equal.

Take the area of Walsh Park (Corrigan is similar afaik) vs Croke Park

In terms of square metres of the pitch per player - 15v15 in Walsh Park is equivalent to 17v17 in Croke Park
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2024, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 13, 2024, 03:29:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: Franko on February 12, 2024, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 12, 2024, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 12, 2024, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2024, 12:54:05 PMWhat county standard pitches are bigger than Corrigan?

Ballycastle?

Probably the only one. Is Dunsilly county standard? Probably not

I would have thought Ballycastle would be bigger, I'm just noting the fact that I think we are hurting ourselves at times playing there. I know the options are limited.

I do think sometimes we look at pitches and feel one pitch is far bigger or wider or both, but when we actually get the tape out, there isn't a lot in it..

If you watched the Waterford game yesterday, there was rucks aplenty in that game, conditions didn't help but its winter/spring hurling.

I'd certainly take teams to the bigger grounds but if that opens up more space for them it could also go against us

Tight grounds will limit both teams and actually give you a tighter game in the scores

But we are limited in venues and Corrigan, until Casement (if ever) is built and allow Antrim to play there we have to go to Corrigan


Walsh Park is one of the smallest county grounds in the country.

I didn't say it wasn't small, its how hurling has developed. Pitch size won't stop rucks in hurling. Possession hurling is a big part of that

It won't stop them - but it will reduce them - all other things being equal.

Take the area of Walsh Park (Corrigan is similar afaik) vs Croke Park

In terms of square metres of the pitch per player - 15v15 in Walsh Park is equivalent to 17v17 in Croke Park

As I said, conditions don't help and time of year.. but rucks are in abundance more now ( in my experience) compared to my playing days
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 13, 2024, 09:30:24 PM
I thought we were ok, but that's a poor as I've seen Dublin for about 15 years.  Dublin didn't look sharp or fit at all and personally I don't think that was necessarily down to us making them look poor.


Corrigan pitch is poor, it's always been poor, there's always a breeze/wind, the pitch is tight, it's heavy and it does us no favours in terms of development.  Why are we looking to get results against teams on a tight pitch in the middle of winter when we get annihilated on bigger pitches when it comes to meaningful games in the summer on a dry sod and a big pitch? What's the point?  Surely we should be trying to get better at playing on pitch dimensions that we are trying to compete on in championship.

All that investment in Corrigan, but you can't polish a turd.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 13, 2024, 09:30:24 PMI thought we were ok, but that's a poor as I've seen Dublin for about 15 years.  Dublin didn't look sharp or fit at all and personally I don't think that was necessarily down to us making them look poor.


Corrigan pitch is poor, it's always been poor, there's always a breeze/wind, the pitch is tight, it's heavy and it does us no favours in terms of development.  Why are we looking to get results against teams on a tight pitch in the middle of winter when we get annihilated on bigger pitches when it comes to meaningful games in the summer on a dry sod and a big pitch? What's the point?  Surely we should be trying to get better at playing on pitch dimensions that we are trying to compete on in championship.

All that investment in Corrigan, but you can't polish a turd.


What sheltered, wide open, dry club pitch would you like developed instead of corrigan then??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2024, 09:45:30 AM
Also Dublin were poor alright but we're down probably close to 13 players. Given that we had so many new boys on we did well - a few years ago our best 15 never mind our up and coming players couldn't have coped with a good or bad Dublin team physically. Shows you how improved Gleeson has us in that regard. Yes we'll still get it very tight against Galway and Tipp but still a pleasing enough showing.

Corrigan best we got and turd a bit harsh... It's fine tbh.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2024, 09:54:02 AM
Fantastic club facilities but im sure everyone will agree not county facilities. A county ground cannot double with a club ground in my opinion. In fairness the pitch is in great shape this time of the year. Casement not available and the shambles at Dunsilly this is our only option
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2024, 09:57:53 AM
Yeah the pitch is the least of the concerns really - it's the banks opposite the stand would be more of an issue.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 11:37:49 AM
Pitch in perfect condition
Covered stand
Meets health and safety standards (otherwise it wouldn't get permission)
No other pitch available
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2024, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 14, 2024, 09:57:53 AMYeah the pitch is the least of the concerns really - it's the banks opposite the stand would be more of an issue.

Limiting factor yes. No other option Belfast based. Could the development money been used to make dunsilly into a centre of excellence instead of a centre of participation? Could a central club got the money to develop?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Two Hands FFS on February 14, 2024, 12:01:14 PM
Dunsilly was only built as a training base/Centre of excellence for the county teams.
It was never to be used for County/club matches cos Casement was meant to be build years ago!!! It was last used in 2013 ffs
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 12:11:16 PM
Talking about what could have, should been done...

Dunsilly can't fit the bill for a county set up, and tbf, that wasn't its function.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2024, 12:17:23 PM
Exactly - even Corrigan was only meant as a stop gap.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 14, 2024, 12:28:20 PM
Can the pitch in Corrigan not be moved back 15 yards at the bottim end?

That would help a bit.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 01:04:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 14, 2024, 12:28:20 PMCan the pitch in Corrigan not be moved back 15 yards at the bottim end?

That would help a bit.

Corrigan isn't measuring the minimum requirements nor is it hitting the maximum requirements.

Moving it 15 yards back would be over the max for length
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 14, 2024, 02:56:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 01:04:44 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 14, 2024, 12:28:20 PMCan the pitch in Corrigan not be moved back 15 yards at the bottim end?

That would help a bit.

Corrigan isn't measuring the minimum requirements nor is it hitting the maximum requirements.

Moving it 15 yards back would be over the max for length

Judging by the distance between the two 65 metre lines Corrigan isn't far off full length, maybe only a metre or two short.

The close proximity of the sidelines to the perimeter fence is probably the bigger issue and it's hard to see how you'd widen it easily.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2024, 03:12:37 PM
Length isnt the issue imo. Maybe a little narrow for some
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 14, 2024, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 14, 2024, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 13, 2024, 09:30:24 PMI thought we were ok, but that's a poor as I've seen Dublin for about 15 years.  Dublin didn't look sharp or fit at all and personally I don't think that was necessarily down to us making them look poor.


Corrigan pitch is poor, it's always been poor, there's always a breeze/wind, the pitch is tight, it's heavy and it does us no favours in terms of development.  Why are we looking to get results against teams on a tight pitch in the middle of winter when we get annihilated on bigger pitches when it comes to meaningful games in the summer on a dry sod and a big pitch? What's the point?  Surely we should be trying to get better at playing on pitch dimensions that we are trying to compete on in championship.

All that investment in Corrigan, but you can't polish a turd.


What sheltered, wide open, dry club pitch would you like developed instead of corrigan then??

Take your pick.  The only things Corrigan has going for it, the covered stand and the terracing have been paid for and developed recently. The toilets are hardly handy. 

The johnnies have one pitch for all their teams and it also serves as our county ground. The goal mouths are always a mess given the traffic on them.

Tbh there are loads of options should have been considered in north or southwest Antrim or somewhere more central. Take your pick. Why should Corrigan have been developed when it's a few miles down the road from Casement?  What's the point of pouring the money into 2 grounds beside each other when the fan base for all major club games comes from outside Belfast in hurling and football.

It's a turd, but imagine the state of the place if the johnnies had to pay for it like all other clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PM
Jesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: erinsboy on February 14, 2024, 10:15:04 PM
It's not a turd OSO ,that's really harsh .
Everyone knows St John's run a tight ship on match days and it runs like clockwork, not every club could do that ,so credit where it is due.
I mind reading that there was a plan to develop the opposite side from the stand with a full length terrace ,a few yards could be found for pitch width if this prevailed but maybe that plan has been shelved now.
One thing I do agree with OSO is that Corrigan is to close to Casement and a more central venue would have been a better option.
Alot of people seem to have issues with Dunsilly but I think there is scope there for future development.
Large terrace/stand on the bank with a toilet block ample to hold 3k crowd is all Antrim needs for club games.
Let's face it club games will be few and far in a new Casement.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2024, 07:30:05 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on February 14, 2024, 10:15:04 PMIt's not a turd OSO ,that's really harsh .
Everyone knows St John's run a tight ship on match days and it runs like clockwork, not every club could do that ,so credit where it is due.
I mind reading that there was a plan to develop the opposite side from the stand with a full length terrace ,a few yards could be found for pitch width if this prevailed but maybe that plan has been shelved now.
One thing I do agree with OSO is that Corrigan is to close to Casement and a more central venue would have been a better option.
Alot of people seem to have issues with Dunsilly but I think there is scope there for future development.
Large terrace/stand on the bank with a toilet block ample to hold 3k crowd is all Antrim needs for club games.
Let's face it club games will be few and far in a new Casement.


There may be a view that Dunsilly could be developed but the railway tunnel doesn't help for health and safety. Toilet facilities and side pitch changing facilities would need to be in place. Covered stand and so on.

Dunsilly was purely designed for the county teams to have facilities for the county team.

Corrigan was purely a city based county ground as a stop gap for Casement.

It's done and it's a fine set up. Pitch sizing isn't a problem when we win and a problem when we lose.

As for the pitch condition, not too many out there that's better.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AM
Casement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 15, 2024, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2024, 07:30:05 AM
Quote from: erinsboy on February 14, 2024, 10:15:04 PMIt's not a turd OSO ,that's really harsh .
Everyone knows St John's run a tight ship on match days and it runs like clockwork, not every club could do that ,so credit where it is due.
I mind reading that there was a plan to develop the opposite side from the stand with a full length terrace ,a few yards could be found for pitch width if this prevailed but maybe that plan has been shelved now.
One thing I do agree with OSO is that Corrigan is to close to Casement and a more central venue would have been a better option.
Alot of people seem to have issues with Dunsilly but I think there is scope there for future development.
Large terrace/stand on the bank with a toilet block ample to hold 3k crowd is all Antrim needs for club games.
Let's face it club games will be few and far in a new Casement.


There may be a view that Dunsilly could be developed but the railway tunnel doesn't help for health and safety. Toilet facilities and side pitch changing facilities would need to be in place. Covered stand and so on.

Dunsilly was purely designed for the county teams to have facilities for the county team.

Corrigan was purely a city based county ground as a stop gap for Casement.

It's done and it's a fine set up. Pitch sizing isn't a problem when we win and a problem when we lose.

As for the pitch condition, not too many out there that's better.




That issue with the railway tunnel could have been overcome.

There is a dead end road where you turn into the Dunsilly Hotel that, with a bit of money changing hands with a farmer, could have allowed for an access road in from the other side of the railway.

At the bare minimum that could have been used for emergency services access, if it wasn't going to be used as a public access for vehicles.

To me the whole Dunsilly plan was under thought and wasn't aspirational enough, which leaves us with what we have now.

A set up that the pitches are closed for use for a large part of the year, when many county teams in all 4 codes could and should be using them.

A 4g pitch for the middle pitch would have been a huge help.

And as suggested above, a terrace instead of a bank for the front pitch.

Perfect all year round for county training and club matches and it would have served as a decent alternative to Corrigan if needed for some county matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 15, 2024, 11:05:32 AM
Do St. Comgall's use Dunsilly or were they to get permission to use it initially?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 15, 2024, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 15, 2024, 11:05:32 AMDo St. Comgall's use Dunsilly or were they to get permission to use it initially?

The top pitch belongs to them and that was part of the original deal.....although I believe they still use the school pitch most of the time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 15, 2024, 12:31:31 PM
A 4g pitch would be needed alright. Guaranteed usage all year and can be hired out as needed and would pull some revenue back in possibly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lord Antrim on February 15, 2024, 03:05:57 PM
I find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 15, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on February 15, 2024, 03:05:57 PMI find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.

Antrim county senior teams will have access to the new Casement for NHL/NFL and championship and possibly the two senior county finals as the optics of the Ulster Council not letting them use it would be very bad, but don't be expected the SA junior B finalists to get a run out there!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lord Antrim on February 15, 2024, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 15, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on February 15, 2024, 03:05:57 PMI find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.

Antrim county senior teams will have access to the new Casement for NHL/NFL and championship and possibly the two senior county finals as the optics of the Ulster Council not letting them use it would be very bad, but don't be expected the SA junior B finalists to get a run out there!
Never mentioned they wouldn't have access just that I wouldn't expect them to play many games there .
As usual it will come down to money and control.
In reality playing in 35k seater stadium against Westmeath for example not going to touch sides and even less for some football games.
But only an opinion and maybe SA junior B finalists may suprise us with massive following.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 08:34:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.

So I'd asked about the here and now and but you harp on about something not related to my post?

Having great facilities doesn't bring success ;)  and your club is?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.

The whole yes it's not ideal but we'll make do with it, it's better than what we had.  Do people think guys like Mickey Harte would put up with that shit?  We will always be average if we accept average in all aspects of our set up.  Of course it doesn't guarantee success on the pitch but it's all part of the mindset.

And before the rest of the inferiority complex arrive let's not laud and fawn over the gym facilities at at dunsilly, there are clubs up and down the country with superior gym facilities with more space paid for by themselves. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:41:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 08:34:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.

So I'd asked about the here and now and but you harp on about something not related to my post?

Having great facilities doesn't bring success ;)  and your club is?

Again.....you miss the point completely. 

You are referring to the here and now regarding Corrigan, I pointed out that the only positive things about Corrigan are where the facilities that the investment paid for,  the rest is still a hole.

Now let me say this really slowly again..... The investment should never have been into Corrigan especially as it's so close to the casement site.  Pick any number of club grounds in north or southwest Antrim and put the same covered stand and terracing there, loads already have better toilets and parking easier to facilitate and......loads of clubs have a second pitch so that the goal mouths that our county teams have to play in aren't the embarrassment that Corrigan is.

Comprendre my little friend?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 08:48:15 AM
Ok, I'll do it slowly as you don't or didn't understand, that horse has bolted a long time ago, maybe when you were in primary school.

My post to you was, where should it be held? All your other turd talk has been discussed a long time ago on here.

I doubt you'll answer the actual question, I'll not hold out on you answering the other question, as I doubt that you are a member of any club 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.
Are you being serious?
We're as far away from the big guns today as we have been at any time in the last 25 years (at least)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AM
Agree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 16, 2024, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 12:22:10 PM
You'd have been tortured though with the stewarding, parking and all the other crap that goes with it
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 16, 2024, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2024, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D


I'd say you are one of the clubs with the best facilities in Antrim as it is. There's a ton of land around it to potentially expand (depending on who actually owns that land). TNN, Antrim or Ballymena would have been perfect IMO but I suppose there's no point crying over spilt milk.

From a selfish point of view, I'd love Casement to be built to have that proper home for Antrim GAA although if I'm honest it probably is a waste of money. How many times have Antrim even filled Corrigan for a county match?

If Casement doesn't happen if the Euros pulls the plug on the money is there a case to build something smaller elsewhere? 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 12:37:27 PM
Build something smaller on the site that is actually there would be the idea and keep it for Antrim, Athletic Ground size would be ideal in the same spot as Casement.

Sure we'll see how it goes in the coming months and whether, if at all, anything is really started or completed

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 16, 2024, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.
Are you being serious?
We're as far away from the big guns today as we have been at any time in the last 25 years (at least)

You've misunderstood.

As I implied we are further away from the big guns than we have ever been.

We never shipped the hidings by the margins we do now on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 16, 2024, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.




Whether this was discussed or not before is irrelevant to the current discussion.

You don't dictate the terms on here as you like to try elsewhere wee man.

It's relevant because it does our county teams no favours at all. And as usual there's no accountability for any of these ridiculous decisions.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 02:05:02 PM
Not sure if you know how it works, someone asks a question and they answer it, now if they can't answer that question that's fine, they can move on, start a different topic, and then ask a question or debate a different topic.

Its fairly easy to understand

I'm not here to tell you what to do, but dodging the question or trying to change the topic is a bit silly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on February 16, 2024, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2024, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D


I'd say you are one of the clubs with the best facilities in Antrim as it is. There's a ton of land around it to potentially expand (depending on who actually owns that land). TNN, Antrim or Ballymena would have been perfect IMO but I suppose there's no point crying over spilt milk.

From a selfish point of view, I'd love Casement to be built to have that proper home for Antrim GAA although if I'm honest it probably is a waste of money. How many times have Antrim even filled Corrigan for a county match?

If Casement doesn't happen if the Euros pulls the plug on the money is there a case to build something smaller elsewhere? 

Ballymenas new pitch wouldve been a decent one to develop. Plenty of room
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lord Antrim on February 16, 2024, 02:55:08 PM
Any know if the million yo yo's from JP has trickled down to clubs yet ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 16, 2024, 03:35:48 PM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

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Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D


I'd say you are one of the clubs with the best facilities in Antrim as it is. There's a ton of land around it to potentially expand (depending on who actually owns that land). TNN, Antrim or Ballymena would have been perfect IMO but I suppose there's no point crying over spilt milk.

From a selfish point of view, I'd love Casement to be built to have that proper home for Antrim GAA although if I'm honest it probably is a waste of money. How many times have Antrim even filled Corrigan for a county match?

If Casement doesn't happen if the Euros pulls the plug on the money is there a case to build something smaller elsewhere? 

Ballymenas new pitch wouldve been a decent one to develop. Plenty of room

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D


I'd say you are one of the clubs with the best facilities in Antrim as it is. There's a ton of land around it to potentially expand (depending on who actually owns that land). TNN, Antrim or Ballymena would have been perfect IMO but I suppose there's no point crying over spilt milk.

From a selfish point of view, I'd love Casement to be built to have that proper home for Antrim GAA although if I'm honest it probably is a waste of money. How many times have Antrim even filled Corrigan for a county match?

If Casement doesn't happen if the Euros pulls the plug on the money is there a case to build something smaller elsewhere? 

Ballymenas new pitch wouldve been a decent one to develop. Plenty of room

Ballymena would have been excellent. I was at the Camogie final there 2 years ago and you have the parking at the pitch and they had 2 or 3 of those big car parks at the factories on the Woodside Road open as well for cars. Not sure what All Saints own but there's loads of room around it if they could buy some of that land for potential expansions. Obviously, it looks like Casement might happen but if it doesn't I think the time might be to look at other options.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 16, 2024, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on February 16, 2024, 02:55:08 PMAny know if the million yo yo's from JP has trickled down to clubs yet ?

Yes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 01:44:10 PM
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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.
Are you being serious?
We're as far away from the big guns today as we have been at any time in the last 25 years (at least)

You've misunderstood.

As I implied we are further away from the big guns than we have ever been.

We never shipped the hidings by the margins we do now on a regular basis.
Really? I went back through our results in the business end of the championship in the 10 years prior to Casement closing.
It was a rare occasion that we played a big gun and didn't ship an awful hiding.
To say that "we were largely competitive against anyone" just simply isn't true.

2004
Lost to Cork 2-26 to 0-10 (22)

2005
Lost to Limerick 4-25 to 1-09 (25)
Lost to Galway 3-29 to 0-10 (28)
Lost to Laois 0-21 to 1-16 (2)

2006
We were in the Christy Ring Cup

2007
Lost to Clare 3-21 to 2-15 (9)
Beat Laois 1-23 to 1-13
Lost to Galway 2-31 to 1-09 (25)

2008
Lost to Galway 6-21 to 1-10 (26)
Lost to Waterford 6-18 to 0-15 (21)
Beat Laois 2-18 to 0-16

2009
Lost to Laois 0-18 to 1-12 (3)
Lost to Offaly 1-28 to 0-13 (18)

2010
Beat Carlow 2-18 to 3-12
Beat Dublin 1-17 to 0-19
Lost to Cork 1-25 to 0-19 (9)

2011
Beat Westmeath 2-25 to 1-19
Beat Carlow 0-23 to 1-12
Lost to Limerick 3-22 to 0-12 (19)

2012
Lost to Limerick 8-26 to 1-15 (32)

2013
Lost to Wexford 3-18 to 0-17 (10)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 10:17:38 AM
Only in the 90s and under Danny Cahill have we been very competitive. We've made really good progress under gleeson though. We were at a low ebb before he came in and he's really turned it round.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 10:17:38 AMOnly in the 90s and under Danny Cahill have we been very competitive. We've made really good progress under gleeson though. We were at a low ebb before he came in and he's really turned it round.
Most of the years between the closure of Casement and the appointment of Gleeson we hurled out of Ballycastle, not Corrigan.
Anybody who thinks that our pitch has any bearing on why we are not top table standard at senior inter county hurling needs their head looked at.
Our juvenile teams are miles off it every single year so we're extremely unlikely to produce senior teams that can properly compete at the top table.

And "The 90s" is maybe a bit of a stretch too. There was the odd big performance and hard luck story but, I mean, we didn't even make it out of Ulster on 3 occasions ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 17, 2024, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 10:17:38 AMOnly in the 90s and under Danny Cahill have we been very competitive. We've made really good progress under gleeson though. We were at a low ebb before he came in and he's really turned it round.
Most of the years between the closure of Casement and the appointment of Gleeson we hurled out of Ballycastle, not Corrigan.
Anybody who thinks that our pitch has any bearing on why we are not top table standard at senior inter county hurling needs their head looked at.
Our juvenile teams are miles off it every single year so we're extremely unlikely to produce senior teams that can properly compete at the top table.

And "The 90s" is maybe a bit of a stretch too. There was the odd big performance and hard luck story but, I mean, we didn't even make it out of Ulster on 3 occasions ::)


Why did your list of drubbings end in 2013?

Why did it not start in the mid 80's when we did play on casement?

You highlighted one sentence that I said and completely ignored what I said after the full stop...that we still shipped big beatings.

You produced a handful of big beatings in your statistics you rolled out.  What are you comparing them to? Why did you stop at 2013? Why didn't you include the Corrigan years? 

What are you comparing Einstein? Apples to apples or apples to nothing??

For God's sake man, we couldn't even win the Christy Ring cup, we made up all the excuses of the day why we failed to perform in croke park etc..
We couldn't play on a proper pitch against second tier teams who we could see off no bother in Corrigan.   We ran out of steam and very exposed big time against Kerry the year we did win it.... Because we couldn't handle the pitch, nothing to do with occasion or anytime else.  The excuses were embarrassing.

Would you rather we kept it tight in Corrigan in Feb and march and when we have to go elsewhere take a tanking or would you rather we played on a pitch that we should expect to encounter when it matters??

No one said we'd be winning national leagues or all Ireland's, but setting up to play on a small (by club standards) pitch, with diabolical goalmouths (likely played a part in the last goal we conceded last weekend against the dubs) and a heavy sod is not how to progress an intercounty team on any front.

You proved your total lack of insight when you knocked us nothing getting out of Ulster. That Down team that beat us back then in Ulster, they went on to give Cork the fright of their lives in the semi final. And that Derry team also delivered in croke park, they were very competitive, they didn't fold like a pack of cards like we do now outside Corrigan when we have to run.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 12:42:27 PM
Erm, it ended at 2013 because that's when Casement closed....which was what we were comparing today against.

The point being no matter where our pitch is we have always taken tankings.

As for not winning Ulster in the 90s. You can't say you are competitive if you aren't doing that. Simple.
Not sure why you are mentioning Derry as they didn't win Ulster in the 90s, Mr Insight.


And you mention making pathetic excuses. This pitch ballix is one big excuse!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 17, 2024, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 12:42:27 PMErm, it ended at 2013 because that's when Casement closed....which was what we were comparing today against.

The point being no matter where our pitch is we have always taken tankings.

As for not winning Ulster in the 90s. You can't say you are competitive if you aren't doing that. Simple.
Not sure why you are mentioning Derry as they didn't win Ulster in the 90s, Mr Insight.


And you mention making pathetic excuses. This pitch ballix is one big excuse!

As I had already said, we have always taken hidings (read the whole thing man, then you won't look like a fool)....now we ship them virtually every day out against a big gun.

Merely quoting the margin of defeat is a lazy man's argument. We shipped some heavy defeats in the 90s and up to 2010 or thereabouts because teams took us seriously and saw us as a threat and even within some of those games we were more competitive than the scoreline would suggest.  Now we ship drubbings from second strings playing within their comfort zone.  Your stats don't reflect any of that. In other words they're s#@t!

Why not throw out the bearings by more than 20 points since 2013 for comparison?

I'm not making excuses, far from it. We are poor, we are nowhere near the top teams, but accepting the set up we accept and expecting anything different is unrealistic. 

If you're content with poor to mediocre then you'll be happy with Corrigan.  Corrigan isn't the only problem there are loads to address......but let's not pretend it's not a problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 17, 2024, 01:18:06 PM
Oh and btw I'm very aware Derry beat us in 2000 rather than the 90's.
 
You're right.....a totally different generation of players!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 01:23:18 PM
2021
Lost to Laois 2-27 to 2-21 (6)

2022
Lost to Cork 3-27 to 2-19 (11)

2023
Drew with Dublin 1-19 to 1-19
Lost to Wexford 1-30 to 1-26 (4)
Lost to Kilkenny 5-31 to 3-20 (17)
Lost to Galway 5-29 to 1-22 (19)

That's our most recent top tier championship results.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 01:38:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2024, 10:17:38 AMOnly in the 90s and under Danny Cahill have we been very competitive. We've made really good progress under gleeson though. We were at a low ebb before he came in and he's really turned it round.
Most of the years between the closure of Casement and the appointment of Gleeson we hurled out of Ballycastle, not Corrigan.
Anybody who thinks that our pitch has any bearing on why we are not top table standard at senior inter county hurling needs their head looked at.
Our juvenile teams are miles off it every single year so we're extremely unlikely to produce senior teams that can properly compete at the top table.

And "The 90s" is maybe a bit of a stretch too. There was the odd big performance and hard luck story but, I mean, we didn't even make it out of Ulster on 3 occasions ::)

Ok more mid to late 80s . That was a very good down team too.

Considering our results at underage I think we are punching well above our weight. There always seems to be a thing in Antrim that because we do very well in club every now and again and we got to an all Ireland final once or twice we think we should be competing with the big boys.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2024, 03:25:05 PM
I still think Antrim have the biggest loss in an All Ireland final? 

Anyways it's the goal mouth that's beating us!  Christ, I really don't think he believes what 'turd' he posts

The fact that Glen are bang average is enough to know Oso is a WUM
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 03:34:37 PM
QuoteFor God's sake man, we couldn't even win the Christy Ring cup, we made up all the excuses of the day why we failed to perform in croke park etc..
We couldn't play on a proper pitch against second tier teams who we could see off no bother in Corrigan.  We ran out of steam and very exposed big time against Kerry the year we did win it.... Because we couldn't handle the pitch, nothing to do with occasion or anytime else.  The excuses were embarrassing

This paragraph was an eye-opener.

Interestingly, we lost 2 Christy Ring finals. 2016 and 2017.
In 2016, we played our home games in Ballycastle, Dunloy & Loughgiel.
In 2017, we played one home game in Corrigan and the rest in Cushendall.

But it's Corrigan holding us back....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 17, 2024, 05:08:14 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 03:34:37 PM
QuoteFor God's sake man, we couldn't even win the Christy Ring cup, we made up all the excuses of the day why we failed to perform in croke park etc..
We couldn't play on a proper pitch against second tier teams who we could see off no bother in Corrigan.  We ran out of steam and very exposed big time against Kerry the year we did win it.... Because we couldn't handle the pitch, nothing to do with occasion or anytime else.  The excuses were embarrassing

This paragraph was an eye-opener.

Interestingly, we lost 2 Christy Ring finals. 2016 and 2017.
In 2016, we played our home games in Ballycastle, Dunloy & Loughgiel.
In 2017, we played one home game in Corrigan and the rest in Cushendall.

But it's Corrigan holding us back....


If you're content with poor to mediocre then you'll be happy with Corrigan.  Corrigan isn't the only problem there are loads to address......but let's not pretend it's not a problem.

Can you and wee man read? It is intentional that you take specific sentences out of context? Or do you simply not see the big picture?

Are any of those pitches as big as casement was or most county grounds , or croke park? Ballycastle perhaps? The rest not.

So slowly again...the pitch (Corrigan) is one of the problems (not the only problem, no one ever said it was THE problem, that was what yourself and mighty mouse took from what I said because neither of you can see the wood for the trees).

All of the pitches that you listed could have been adjusted and developed to a full scale county pitch had the money been ploughed into developing those instead of Corrigan and a covered stand and terracing built (the only good things Corrigan has going for it).  All of those pitches have a much superior surface to Corrigan. All of those surfaces have better goalmouths as far out as the 21 (though I don't like the 3g in the small square that Ballycastle have).

Why? Because all of those clubs and communities invested in themselves and raised the money to develop their own facilities. They all have a second pitch to train on (unlike the johnnies).  The money never goes to develop grounds like that from the county, even if it's to help the county teams.

Because that's what wrong with Antrim at core level, instead it goes to a Belfast club incapable of raising the funds to develop their dilapidated ground, with no scope to extend anything, with barely standard toilets where you have to almost leave the ground again to go. With one pitch for all it's teams and all the traffic that goes with it hence the state of the pitch. With terrible access and parking.

It was a sh#t decision and it's a sh#t setup, other counties laugh at us, there are club facilities all over Ulster way above our designated "county ground". Is it any wonder Cavan objected to playing there on Ulster championship day?? Then handed us our ass on a plate when we foolishly suggested it was because they were afraid of coming to play in Corrigan. Decisions made by the same sort of individuals who think that any club championship match of any significance should be played in somewhere like hightown.

So for the last time.....
There are many other grounds around Antrim which should have been chosen ahead of the turd of the whiterock.  Had a more suitable ground been chosen we'd have had at least the same covered stand there, at least the same terrace there and scope to develop everything else including the pitch and not be confined by space and restraints.  So apart from 31 other counties laughing at our set up the only others laughing are the johnnies themselves.  And if you want and accept mediocre in the set up then accept mediocre on the pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 17, 2024, 05:22:04 PM
And I'll return to how I entered this discussion.
Casement, Corrigan, Ballycastle, Dunloy, Loughgiel, Cushendall....our county has called them all home at some stage in the last 20 years and not a blind bit of difference has it made to the standard of our county hurlers.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2024, 05:41:37 PM
So you're not a fan of Corrigan?

What pitch/ground currently in Antrim can be used?

I've asked you this a few times but you haven't come back to me.

Been to a few grounds already this year, they are in piss poor state.

So I'll be interested to hear what's better.

Now if you are thick enough to keep going back over old ground on where Antrim are currently playing their home games then knock yourself out.
 
It's been discussed, plenty.

You've been made to look like a fool a good few times but keep coming back. I love your endeavour
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 01:56:41 PM
How bad is Omagh's pitch? I'm surprised they are actually allowed to play on it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 18, 2024, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 01:56:41 PMHow dad is Omagh's pitch? I'm surprised they are actually allowed to play on it!

Lorry load of sand in the goal mouth to patch it up?  Nah didn't think so.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Oso on February 18, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2024, 05:41:37 PMSo you're not a fan of Corrigan?

What pitch/ground currently in Antrim can be used?

I've asked you this a few times but you haven't come back to me.

Been to a few grounds already this year, they are in piss poor state.

So I'll be interested to hear what's better.

Now if you are thick enough to keep going back over old ground on where Antrim are currently playing their home games then knock yourself out.
 
It's been discussed, plenty.

You've been made to look like a fool a good few times but keep coming back. I love your endeavour

It's ironic that someone who has made some of the decisions you have in public before has the audacity to call someone thick!

Like I've said before wee man, you don't know what you don't know.

You are asking an irrelevant question because no other ground received the funding and input that Corrigan did to develop it and continues to receive. That can't be undone. What bit of that don't you understand??

Most clubs are only just opening their pitches and no club has had to prepare their pitch to host county matches so what would be the rush with maintenance?  And all 5 Ft 5 (in your studs) of you calling someone thick on the internet! ;D   

So at any of these numerous pitches you were at, did you get parked or did you have to go looking parking in a housing estate nearby?   Meanwhile another sh#t show for parking and access to Corrigan today. Keeping the Johnnies afloat. Maybe they'll be the first club in Belfast able I afford floodlights at this rate, that'll be a proud day for the gaa in Belfast, team effort paid for by us all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 06:36:29 PM
I'm nearly sure Ardoyne have floodlights ;D

I'll ask one more time, which pitch currently can do county games?

We've spoke at length at the time Corrigan was picked as the County ground. And everyone said the same thing at the time.

So you going over stuff we've already agreed with won't cover my question.

If you can't answer, that's ok 👍
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 06:37:53 PM
Quote from: Oso on February 18, 2024, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 01:56:41 PMHow dad is Omagh's pitch? I'm surprised they are actually allowed to play on it!

Lorry load of sand in the goal mouth to patch it up?  Nah didn't think so.


Omaghs pitch was atrocious, probably why they lost today
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 18, 2024, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: Oso on February 18, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 17, 2024, 05:41:37 PMSo you're not a fan of Corrigan?

What pitch/ground currently in Antrim can be used?

I've asked you this a few times but you haven't come back to me.

Been to a few grounds already this year, they are in piss poor state.

So I'll be interested to hear what's better.

Now if you are thick enough to keep going back over old ground on where Antrim are currently playing their home games then knock yourself out.
 
It's been discussed, plenty.

You've been made to look like a fool a good few times but keep coming back. I love your endeavour

It's ironic that someone who has made some of the decisions you have in public before has the audacity to call someone thick!

Like I've said before wee man, you don't know what you don't know.

You are asking an irrelevant question because no other ground received the funding and input that Corrigan did to develop it and continues to receive. That can't be undone. What bit of that don't you understand??

Most clubs are only just opening their pitches and no club has had to prepare their pitch to host county matches so what would be the rush with maintenance?  And all 5 Ft 5 (in your studs) of you calling someone thick on the internet! ;D   

So at any of these numerous pitches you were at, did you get parked or did you have to go looking parking in a housing estate nearby?   Meanwhile another sh#t show for parking and access to Corrigan today. Keeping the Johnnies afloat. Maybe they'll be the first club in Belfast able I afford floodlights at this rate, that'll be a proud day for the gaa in Belfast, team effort paid for by us all.
Hold on, so parking at Corrigan seems to be a major issue for you?
Yet, you've been championing Casement lately. Surely much of the parking there was side streets & housing estates?
How is the parking at Croke Park?

You have an issue. It's something to do with St John's/Belfast/Antrim Co Board but it's hard to work out because instead of just coming out and saying what the problem is, you are desperately trying to create other non-issues to channel it through.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on February 19, 2024, 09:17:45 PM
Very easy for people to criticise and for what its worth i dont think corrigan is a poor choice as such. We've had some good days out there particularly in hurling.

Which other grounds could at the drop of a hat pick up a county game? Considering pitch, accessibility, parking etc

Ballycastle, Dunloy, St endas,

Id also mention cushendall, creggan, ahogill but since the clubs last hosted i feel our crowds have really picked up and not sure if they could cope now days with big games
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 08:29:23 AM
Definitely not St Endas, it is an awful venue.

Poor pitch, poor parking, poor access.

Creggan is no better.

Portglenone I would say is superior to most.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 09:10:25 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 08:29:23 AMDefinitely not St Endas, it is an awful venue.

Poor pitch, poor parking, poor access.

Creggan is no better.

Portglenone I would say is superior to most.

Viewing the game is important also, covered stands are a must, tiered terrace also. Standing around a fence is not how you want to watch a game.

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 20, 2024, 09:51:43 AM
Loughgiel or Cargin might be some you could add to your list.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: saffman on February 20, 2024, 10:04:41 AM
Of the list i dont think any of them tick all the boxes - remembering they also didnt get the money pumped into the ground that corrigan has.

Parking to me hosting top div 1 sides is a bigger food for thought as opposed 5 years ago.

Ballycastle to me is the closest to meeting most criteria aside from a covered terrace.

Reason i mention st endas is they have a school nearby to facilitate parking (albeit never been used for a big club fixture)
Secondly they have a natural tiered terrace - why this has never been adapted with rails and proper footing? Would make good viewing.

Portglenone is a great setup but could it host a game against your kilkenny or always come championship? Thinking of crowds?

My point is i believe other grounds could've been adapted to the standard of a good home base to a higher standard than corrigan with less spent on it

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 10:16:25 AM
There were 2 club grounds designated as county grounds eligible for upgrading depending on funding - Corrigan Park and Loughgiel.

The Loughgiel club were not consulted about any potential upgrade to their ground.

The former county chairman announced the upgrade of Corrigan without consultation with the club delegates after funding had been sourced.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 10:21:07 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 08:29:23 AMDefinitely not St Endas, it is an awful venue.

Poor pitch, poor parking, poor access.

Creggan is no better.

Portglenone I would say is superior to most.

Antrim played Meath in Portglenone before lockdown.

Pitch was in excellent condition.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PM
Going in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PMGoing in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)

Unfortunately I don't think that was the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PMGoing in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)

Unfortunately I don't think that was the case.

On here I meant
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 20, 2024, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PMGoing in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)

Unfortunately I don't think that was the case.

The Frankies are circling the wagons on this one Coaster  ;D

Totes most have sent MR out to defend Corrigan with the promise of a big game this year.. ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:41:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 20, 2024, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PMGoing in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)

Unfortunately I don't think that was the case.

The Frankies are circling the wagons on this one Coaster  ;D

Totes most have sent MR out to defend Corrigan with the promise of a big game this year.. ;)


Naomh Gall and The Johnnies wouldn't be the BFF's  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 20, 2024, 01:41:36 PM

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Ballymena would have been excellent. I was at the Camogie final there 2 years ago and you have the parking at the pitch and they had 2 or 3 of those big car parks at the factories on the Woodside Road open as well for cars. Not sure what All Saints own but there's loads of room around it if they could buy some of that land for potential expansions. Obviously, it looks like Casement might happen but if it doesn't I think the time might be to look at other options.
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This is possibly the best option aside from Ballycastle. A lot of clubs are on roads not suitable for parking on. I still think that on top of Casement we will need a location capable of hosting elite club games better. Antrim clubs are miles behind funding wise some of the Derry or Tyrone clubs for example
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 20, 2024, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:41:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 20, 2024, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 20, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2024, 12:09:27 PMGoing in circles about venues is melting my brain..

Corrigan got the funding rightly or wrongly, and was debated well enough at the time and most people agreed there there could have been better options, but we are where we are. The pitch is a dam site better than some of the pitches on show at the weekend, using Omagh as an example for starters.

All roads going to Corrigan are handy to get to, motorway on the doorstep, people for some reason feel that there should be adequate parking for 4 thousand people, that's just rubbish. When we went to Casement or Croke, people are parking all over the place, its a City. Walking half a mile to the pitch is normal for county games in most counties..

Been shown that whether we play on a bigger pitch or a tighter pitch makes no difference to our form, we are where we are down to what we have available

Someone was complaining about the wind ffs! There is a constant gale blowing down/around/all over most pitches in the country! Then toilets, how many toilets are available in these other grounds? Go before ya leave ;)

Unfortunately I don't think that was the case.

The Frankies are circling the wagons on this one Coaster  ;D

Totes most have sent MR out to defend Corrigan with the promise of a big game this year.. ;)


Naomh Gall and The Johnnies wouldn't be the BFF's  ;D

Reminds me of two brothers who used to play for us, would regularly fight the bit out with each other at training over very little but if one got a bit of a smack in a game from an opponent the other was right in there like Flynn throwing punches.
 ;D

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: saffman on February 20, 2024, 10:04:41 AMOf the list i dont think any of them tick all the boxes - remembering they also didnt get the money pumped into the ground that corrigan has.

Parking to me hosting top div 1 sides is a bigger food for thought as opposed 5 years ago.

Ballycastle to me is the closest to meeting most criteria aside from a covered terrace.

Reason i mention st endas is they have a school nearby to facilitate parking (albeit never been used for a big club fixture)
Secondly they have a natural tiered terrace - why this has never been adapted with rails and proper footing? Would make good viewing.

Portglenone is a great setup but could it host a game against your kilkenny or always come championship? Thinking of crowds?

My point is i believe other grounds could've been adapted to the standard of a good home base to a higher standard than corrigan with less spent on it



Yes, I was suggesting PG1 as somewhere if the money had been given for a terrace/stand it would tick the rest of the boxes.

But then maybe a bit too far for those in Belfast that make the decisions to want to travel too....and no social club to pint in!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2024, 04:19:55 PM
Portglenones pitch is fantastic for the players.A really good surface but its no good for a large crowd to attend.

No parking other than a narrow country road and the pitch plus viewing isnt the best (bar a small bank on the far side). I was at Lgiel v St Johns SHC a few years back and it was really poor to try and view the game.

Great pitch and floodlights but not good enough for viewing.

TBH ballycasle ive found was always the best to stand and watch a county game or county final (where the final should be played).

Corrigan again has a good surface but anyone who was at the county hurling final past will know how hard parking was, trying to find space on the grass bank and then the potential health and safety hazard at the halfway line where the van was parked for the cameras. Anyone who was there will know of the potential of something going wrong with the size of the crowd trying to filter into a narrow path with a two way flow of traffic.

But it is where it is now and we have to deal with the set up we have.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2024, 04:19:55 PMPortglenones pitch is fantastic for the players.A really good surface but its no good for a large crowd to attend.

No parking other than a narrow country road and the pitch plus viewing isnt the best (bar a small bank on the far side). I was at Lgiel v St Johns SHC a few years back and it was really poor to try and view the game.

Great pitch and floodlights but not good enough for viewing.

TBH ballycasle ive found was always the best to stand and watch a county game or county final (where the final should be played).

Corrigan again has a good surface but anyone who was at the county hurling final past will know how hard parking was, trying to find space on the grass bank and then the potential health and safety hazard at the halfway line where the van was parked for the cameras. Anyone who was there will know of the potential of something going wrong with the size of the crowd trying to filter into a narrow path with a two way flow of traffic.

But it is where it is now and we have to deal with the set up we have.

They have a large car park there on 3 sides of the old pitch, so it isn't just the narrow road.

I know the viewing isn't acceptable as it is, but again, my point was the with the money going there they could have had a terrace/stand to add to what they already have.

Or even better, the money could have gone to Tír na nÓg when we were redeveloping anyway and stuck a stand at our pitch!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 21, 2024, 11:57:51 AM
Quote from: barnish oggie on February 20, 2024, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Na Glinntí Glasa on February 20, 2024, 04:19:55 PMPortglenones pitch is fantastic for the players.A really good surface but its no good for a large crowd to attend.

No parking other than a narrow country road and the pitch plus viewing isnt the best (bar a small bank on the far side). I was at Lgiel v St Johns SHC a few years back and it was really poor to try and view the game.

Great pitch and floodlights but not good enough for viewing.

TBH ballycasle ive found was always the best to stand and watch a county game or county final (where the final should be played).

Corrigan again has a good surface but anyone who was at the county hurling final past will know how hard parking was, trying to find space on the grass bank and then the potential health and safety hazard at the halfway line where the van was parked for the cameras. Anyone who was there will know of the potential of something going wrong with the size of the crowd trying to filter into a narrow path with a two way flow of traffic.

But it is where it is now and we have to deal with the set up we have.

They have a large car park there on 3 sides of the old pitch, so it isn't just the narrow road.

I know the viewing isn't acceptable as it is, but again, my point was the with the money going there they could have had a terrace/stand to add to what they already have.

Or even better, the money could have gone to Tír na nÓg when we were redeveloping anyway and stuck a stand at our pitch!

They have a carpark at the rear & side of the old pitch and then ask other cars to filter around the main pitch. Like i say i was at the SHC game a few years back and ended up parked way up the country road. Its not an issue to do this.

My point is that it isnt great for viewing with a large crowd there. Excellent pitch, and club who are very helpful each season im there with teams, but not suited to larger games.

Tir Na nOg again is a good pitch but you'd be getting her tight for a stand on the far side  ;D

If they were to have thought it thought more Ballycastle & Portglenone (hurling/football finals) is where the money should of went to create a covered stand/enhanced terracing etc as an alternative county ground until Casement is done.

But we didnt and we are stuck with Corrigan until Casement is done.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 25, 2024, 03:23:44 PM
Antrim 1-13 Galway 2-35 FT

You know when they stop updating the scoreboard it's not a good day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on February 25, 2024, 06:02:15 PM
Would have smashed them in Ballycastle.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: LC on February 25, 2024, 06:37:49 PM
How is it Antrim can push Dublin all the way one week and then get annihilated the following week?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on February 25, 2024, 07:01:28 PM
Quote from: LC on February 25, 2024, 06:37:49 PMHow is it Antrim can push Dublin all the way one week and then get annihilated the following week?

Galway are a good bit better than that Dublin team that fielded in Corrigan (who should be a bit better with Chris Crummey and Donal Burke playing yesterday)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 25, 2024, 07:28:24 PM
Just read the short report of the game on the GAA website.

One thing stands out. Antrim only scored 1pt from a free. Now either 1. they hit a good few wide or 2. Galway's tackling and disclipline was excellent.

Bear in mind that Corrigan isn't the biggest pitch, then that's unreal in hurling terms.

Conversely it said Evan Niland landed 10 frees - probably missed a few also so the difference between the two teams' scoring frees is very strange indeed.

Anybody who was there know?

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2024, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: LC on February 25, 2024, 06:37:49 PMHow is it Antrim can push Dublin all the way one week and then get annihilated the following week?

Dublin got annihilated yesterday so maybe they have regressed to. I see Westmeath hit 2-21 against Tipp. Thank god we can't get relegated this year. The player clean out we got from last year the timing couldn't be better. Let's hope where not playing Joe mc Donnagh next year.
Performance today was disappointing but shefflin put out his strongest team and some of our guys are very green. With the faster pace and pressure, unforced errors and basic ball handling was below par for a thoroughbred like Galway.
We've been here before over the years and it's just the cycle of things in Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 25, 2024, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 25, 2024, 07:28:24 PMJust read the short report of the game on the GAA website.

One thing stands out. Antrim only scored 1pt from a free. Now either 1. they hit a good few wide or 2. Galway's tackling and disclipline was excellent.

Bear in mind that Corrigan isn't the biggest pitch, then that's unreal in hurling terms.

Conversely it said Evan Niland landed 10 frees - probably missed a few also so the difference between the two teams' scoring frees is very strange indeed.

Anybody who was there know?

 

We hit a few wides alright and Galway shooting was on point but as always there was more than one problem.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on February 25, 2024, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on February 25, 2024, 07:28:24 PMJust read the short report of the game on the GAA website.

One thing stands out. Antrim only scored 1pt from a free. Now either 1. they hit a good few wide or 2. Galway's tackling and disclipline was excellent.

Bear in mind that Corrigan isn't the biggest pitch, then that's unreal in hurling terms.

Conversely it said Evan Niland landed 10 frees - probably missed a few also so the difference between the two teams' scoring frees is very strange indeed.

Anybody who was there know?

I wouldn't dwell too much on free counts or wides, the gap was just massive - as we  all know.

Though I thought we didn't do ourself any favours today at times, taking that extra touch or a few yards extra in the solo and straight into traffic, and the turnover.

We are no closer now than we have ever been to the top teams
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on February 25, 2024, 11:25:16 PM
I'm just asking if Galway were very good in the tackle or fouled away out the field?

I find it strange that Antrim only scored 1pt from a free in 70 plus minutes of hurling on a tight pitch.

That stat stood straight out at me reading the report.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 26, 2024, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 25, 2024, 11:25:16 PMI'm just asking if Galway were very good in the tackle or fouled away out the field?

I find it strange that Antrim only scored 1pt from a free in 70 plus minutes of hurling on a tight pitch.

That stat stood straight out at me reading the report.



Judging by that score-line, it doesn't seem Antrim had the ball  long enough to be fouled.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 26, 2024, 01:20:41 PM
It does say a little more about where Dublin are the we are really.

We know where we are with the current squad, so none of these results are coming as a surprise, it is a real pity but that is the reality of where we are with the group.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2024, 04:10:19 PM
We've lost too many this year and can't expect very young boys to just come up to speed in one campaign. Our level has probably dropped unfortunately. At our best we couldn't compete with Galway so losing players we probably don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 27, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
We'd 6 starters on Sunday who werent involved with the seniors last year. Few lads stepped up from u20 but also 3? OBrien, McCurry and McAteer who are fresh into an inter county set up

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 09:40:18 AM
Just saw on the football thread that Antrim are moving their minor fixtures to accomodate last year minors and allow them to play adult.

Is the same likely to happen for the minor hurling league in Antrim which is currently set for a Sunday morning?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 09:40:18 AMJust saw on the football thread that Antrim are moving their minor fixtures to accomodate last year minors and allow them to play adult.

Is the same likely to happen for the minor hurling league in Antrim which is currently set for a Sunday morning?


From what I understand JC the Sunday morning fixtures did not suit the Minor grade in gerenal for a number of different reasons, playing adult games was probably down the list on why it didn't suit.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 09:40:18 AMJust saw on the football thread that Antrim are moving their minor fixtures to accomodate last year minors and allow them to play adult.

Is the same likely to happen for the minor hurling league in Antrim which is currently set for a Sunday morning?


From what I understand JC the Sunday morning fixtures did not suit the Minor grade in gerenal for a number of different reasons, playing adult games was probably down the list on why it didn't suit.

When are they playing the minor games now?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 09:40:18 AMJust saw on the football thread that Antrim are moving their minor fixtures to accomodate last year minors and allow them to play adult.

Is the same likely to happen for the minor hurling league in Antrim which is currently set for a Sunday morning?


From what I understand JC the Sunday morning fixtures did not suit the Minor grade in gerenal for a number of different reasons, playing adult games was probably down the list on why it didn't suit.

When are they playing the minor games now?


I have heard some chat that they are wanting to swap with the u16 grade which ever evening their games were on and send u16s out on the Sunday mornings.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on February 28, 2024, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 28, 2024, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 28, 2024, 09:40:18 AMJust saw on the football thread that Antrim are moving their minor fixtures to accomodate last year minors and allow them to play adult.

Is the same likely to happen for the minor hurling league in Antrim which is currently set for a Sunday morning?


From what I understand JC the Sunday morning fixtures did not suit the Minor grade in gerenal for a number of different reasons, playing adult games was probably down the list on why it didn't suit.

When are they playing the minor games now?


I have heard some chat that they are wanting to swap with the u16 grade which ever evening their games were on and send u16s out on the Sunday mornings.

That would make sense. Having minor and senior on the same day would be silly. And no doubt end up some of the minors playing two games in the one day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 02, 2024, 05:58:08 PM
Great result for St Killian's who beat Portumna CS today in the Paddy Buggy Cup semi-final. They'll play Blackwater CS of Waterford in the final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2024, 07:24:52 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 02, 2024, 05:58:08 PMGreat result for St Killian's who beat Portumna CS today in the Paddy Buggy Cup semi-final. They'll play Blackwater CS of Waterford in the final.

According to the radio commentary GT much bigger physically, and they slowly ground Portumna down. I believe Blackwater will be a much tougher nut to crack
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2024, 09:45:42 PM
McLaughlin scored 3-10. Some going.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: bannside on March 02, 2024, 10:21:12 PM
Up the Tower. Well done 👏
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Emmett Greene on March 04, 2024, 05:26:25 PM
Well done to St. Killian's.

I didn't realise that the Paddy Biggy cup was a B tier competition. Was this always the case for the Mageean cup winners or is this a recent thing?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2024, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Emmett Greene on March 04, 2024, 05:26:25 PMWell done to St. Killian's.

I didn't realise that the Paddy Biggy cup was a B tier competition. Was this always the case for the Mageean cup winners or is this a recent thing?

For many years...

Schools did compete at A graded but the level was way above ours
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 04, 2024, 06:36:13 PM
It's in the last 20 years I'd say but not always the case (depending your age).
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 12:11:47 PM
Thats a shocking weekend for our hurling teams. Seniors depleated, 6 subs. U20s and minors beat by Derry. An u20b All Ireland wouldnt even be something to celebrate
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 12, 2024, 12:16:28 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 12:11:47 PMThats a shocking weekend for our hurling teams. Seniors depleated, 6 subs. U20s and minors beat by Derry. An u20b All Ireland wouldnt even be something to celebrate

It wasn't the minors, it was Antrims U-16 team but not a great weekend. U-20s very disappointing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PM
I thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 11:52:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Fair play to Derry, they seem to have come from nowhere as they were much of a same standard as Down were at U17 with this group, but have kicked on considerably now they're U20's.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: ardtole on March 13, 2024, 12:07:13 PM
I was looking through the Derry team and it seemed to be backboned by the Kevin Lynch's and Lavey clubs.

Maybe Slaughtneil's dominance in recent years has given the other Derry clubs the push to improve at underage, and as a whole, the county is benefiting.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 12:09:05 PM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 12:09:05 PM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.

Would there have been anything to gain plying in an All Ireland B against the likes of Roscommon, Donegal etc ? Management nor players wanted to take part.

They have been training since November,some of them involved with CPC & GT in the Mageean & the GT players still on the go until this weekend. They have probably had enough
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
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Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.

Would there have been anything to gain plying in an All Ireland B against the likes of Roscommon, Donegal etc ? Management not players wanted to take part.

They have been training since November,some of them involved with CPC & GT in the Mageean & the GT players still on the go until this weekend. They have probably had enough

If that's your level, then that's your level.
 ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.

Would there have been anything to gain plying in an All Ireland B against the likes of Roscommon, Donegal etc ? Management nor players wanted to take part.

They have been training since November,some of them involved with CPC & GT in the Mageean & the GT players still on the go until this weekend. They have probably had enough

I don't think that there would be anything to be gained from this either.

My point was that questions would need to be asked with the level of preparation into this group that we are out at this point.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 01:44:17 PM
Ive heard good reports about the preperation etc. But to withdraw is a bit disappointing. They had a panel of 33 players, Let the lads go and join the senior panel who were asked and stay with them. Could number 16 to 33 not get gametime v the Roscommons etc? Are we hurling snobs? As JC jokingly said, its our level. Derry played in it last year and climbed the steps of croke park
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 01:44:17 PMIve heard good reports about the preperation etc. But to withdraw is a bit disappointing. They had a panel of 33 players, Let the lads go and join the senior panel who were asked and stay with them. Could number 16 to 33 not get gametime v the Roscommons etc? Are we hurling snobs? As JC jokingly said, its our level. Derry played in it last year and climbed the steps of croke park

With the resources player wise Antrim really shouldn't be getting caught out like this at U20 level, but I do agree with  what you are doing at U17 level by playing your U17's in Leinster and the U16's in Ulster, makes total sense.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
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Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.

Would there have been anything to gain plying in an All Ireland B against the likes of Roscommon, Donegal etc ? Management nor players wanted to take part.

They have been training since November,some of them involved with CPC & GT in the Mageean & the GT players still on the go until this weekend. They have probably had enough

I don't think that there would be anything to be gained from this either.

My point was that questions would need to be asked with the level of preparation into this group that we are out at this point.

100%
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on March 13, 2024, 05:30:36 PM
just recently signed up to this forum, been reading it for a while and never really wanted comment until now. I'm an Antrim hurling fan formely from Belfast but living in the sticks and get most home games in Corrigan... hopefully i'll be able to contribute on this forum.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2024, 09:40:54 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on March 13, 2024, 05:30:36 PMjust recently signed up to this forum, been reading it for a while and never really wanted comment until now. I'm an Antrim hurling fan formely from Belfast but living in the sticks and get most home games in Corrigan... hopefully i'll be able to contribute on this forum.
I hope you have brought a positive attitude  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 14, 2024, 09:42:56 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2024, 09:40:54 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on March 13, 2024, 05:30:36 PMjust recently signed up to this forum, been reading it for a while and never really wanted comment until now. I'm an Antrim hurling fan formely from Belfast but living in the sticks and get most home games in Corrigan... hopefully i'll be able to contribute on this forum.
I hope you have brought a positive attitude  ;D

It won't take long for that to be bate out of him  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on March 14, 2024, 10:25:26 AM
Thats all i have, a positive attitude! particularly towards our lovely referees.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 14, 2024, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on March 14, 2024, 10:25:26 AMThats all i have, a positive attitude! particularly towards our lovely referees.




Nice to have you onboard totes.
 ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2024, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 01:44:17 PMIve heard good reports about the preperation etc. But to withdraw is a bit disappointing. They had a panel of 33 players, Let the lads go and join the senior panel who were asked and stay with them. Could number 16 to 33 not get gametime v the Roscommons etc? Are we hurling snobs? As JC jokingly said, its our level. Derry played in it last year and climbed the steps of croke park

With the resources player wise Antrim really shouldn't be getting caught out like this at U20 level, but I do agree with  what you are doing at U17 level by playing your U17's in Leinster and the U16's in Ulster, makes total sense.



Im wondering if the Antrim management took Derry for granted here.

One thing that should never be done is to underestimate your opponent, especially any hurling team coming out of Derry.

I heard that Joe McLaughlin was subjected to a lot of slabbering from the Derry players.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 14, 2024, 11:07:03 AM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on March 14, 2024, 10:25:26 AMThats all i have, a positive attitude! particularly towards our lovely referees.




Nice to have you onboard totes.
 ;D

The mask will slip soon enough  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 14, 2024, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on March 14, 2024, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 02:28:10 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 13, 2024, 01:44:17 PMIve heard good reports about the preperation etc. But to withdraw is a bit disappointing. They had a panel of 33 players, Let the lads go and join the senior panel who were asked and stay with them. Could number 16 to 33 not get gametime v the Roscommons etc? Are we hurling snobs? As JC jokingly said, its our level. Derry played in it last year and climbed the steps of croke park

With the resources player wise Antrim really shouldn't be getting caught out like this at U20 level, but I do agree with  what you are doing at U17 level by playing your U17's in Leinster and the U16's in Ulster, makes total sense.



Im wondering if the Antrim management took Derry for granted here.

One thing that should never be done is to underestimate your opponent, especially any hurling team coming out of Derry.

I heard that Joe McLaughlin was subjected to a lot of slabbering from the Derry players.

Joe needs to get used to this part of the game as the dark arts will be used against him going forward. His clubmate even announced him as the next big thing on the sunday game past. Hes still at school. Think he needs a little more protection
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 01:48:50 PM
Clubs are always talking up the next big thing and that's fine to a point.

Let them bed in, lets see where they are in 2 or 3 years when they start to hit 23/24 years of age, how they physically pan out. Lads that have been super minors and even burst on the scene as young seniors can sometimes drift off and not be bothered.

Seen many 'stars' over the years and many never live up to the hype

Women, college, drink and partying always play a part :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 14, 2024, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 01:48:50 PMClubs are always talking up the next big thing and that's fine to a point.

Let them bed in, lets see where they are in 2 or 3 years when they start to hit 23/24 years of age, how they physically pan out. Lads that have been super minors and even burst on the scene as young seniors can sometimes drift off and not be bothered.

Seen many 'stars' over the years and many never live up to the hype

Women, college, drink and partying always play a part :D

As big Ger Rogan once commented to a C&P coach who was raving about the next big thing out of NA, "Wait till he finds out what his cóck is really for!"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 14, 2024, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 01:48:50 PMClubs are always talking up the next big thing and that's fine to a point.

Let them bed in, lets see where they are in 2 or 3 years when they start to hit 23/24 years of age, how they physically pan out. Lads that have been super minors and even burst on the scene as young seniors can sometimes drift off and not be bothered.

Seen many 'stars' over the years and many never live up to the hype

Women, college, drink and partying always play a part :D

As big Ger Rogan once commented to a C&P coach who was raving about the next big thing out of NA, "Wait till he finds out what his cóck is really for!"

I wouldn't have put it as eloquently as Ger  ;D  but yeah 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 14, 2024, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Who's decision is that?

Why do they not go into AI B competition?

A lot of comments on here smell of big time arrogance.

No inter-county hurling for the majority of them lads now and we're just into March.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 14, 2024, 03:50:15 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 13, 2024, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2024, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2024, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 13, 2024, 10:53:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 12, 2024, 03:16:57 PMI thought the u20s had a serious looking panel with plenty of firepower up top. Couldnt make the game but a forward line with joe mclaughlin, aodhan mcgarry, niall mcgarrell and cormac mckeown should be a serious outfit

Seniors are where probably expected with the few opting out, retirements etc

U20s would be more of a concern for sure.

I'd done a couple of trial games leading up to the start of the championship and its not for the lack of effort put in from what I could see, probably just beaten by the better team on the day?

Yeah as far as I am aware the preparations were good, which to me makes it even more worrying that we aren't beating Derry (No disrespect intended)

Is that the campaign over or do they still get into Leinster for the AI?

Derry are now in the Leinster B championship, Antrim could well be in an AI "B" competition or even lower down, my contact hasn't got back to me yet.



They aren't in any of them, they have decided not to enter and their season is over

Well then there would need to be a few more questions asked now if that is the case.

Would there have been anything to gain plying in an All Ireland B against the likes of Roscommon, Donegal etc ? Management not players wanted to take part.

They have been training since November,some of them involved with CPC & GT in the Mageean & the GT players still on the go until this weekend. They have probably had enough

If that's your level, then that's your level.
 ;)

Very good JC.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on March 14, 2024, 05:24:54 PM
re:u20s (two points if may, as the newbie)
Development / Mentally: those young fellas have been training all winter, training and playing games on heavy, wet pitches. surely the prize for them is some spring / nice weather hurling. players dont want a season to end at this time of year with nothing to show other than memories of cold dark nights at Dunsilly. How will Antrim hurling sell  the dream to those players that can also play again next year?

Financially: i think its maybe a tad disrespectful of the management team not entering into the lower tier competitions. think that group has been together for a few years now and will most likely move on / back to their clubs. bad loss to Derry at home in Corrigan, losses last year and the previous years by considerable margins against 'tier 2' Leinster teams. hard one to take for the players and management - espcecially for the county treasurer who's running the costing spreadsheet vs the return (out of competitive hurling before St Patrick's Day)

btw not having a go at the managers
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 06:28:00 PM
Are we disrespecting Derry here?

Anyone at the game? Were Derry the better team on the day?

Not sure on the arrogance or the background on the reasons why, I'm sure those reasons were aired before entering and not entering and rubbered stamped.

Never heard any issues about that before the loss, but on cue people are looking answers like they have a vested interest in it.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2024, 06:28:00 PMAre we disrespecting Derry here?

Anyone at the game? Were Derry the better team on the day?

Not sure on the arrogance or the background on the reasons why, I'm sure those reasons were aired before entering and not entering and rubbered stamped.

Never heard any issues about that before the loss, but on cue people are looking answers like they have a vested interest in it.



We probaby are disrespecting Derry as they are pushing at that level. They scored more than us, we can have no complaints. On the day winner takes all.

Ive heard from various sources saying the set up was good and the training. Challenge games down south etc. Didnt perfrom. Full stop

Withdrawing from the B/C Competition id have a problem with. Play the games! Ask the players who wants to play on. Im sure theres lads not on the panel who would love to pull the antrim jersey on if other boys walked away
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2024, 10:41:17 AM
Our u20s have not been performing at A level in their previous age groups so I think it's a bit silly to not enter into the B or C competition.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 15, 2024, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2024, 10:41:17 AMOur u20s have not been performing at A level in their previous age groups so I think it's a bit silly to not enter into the B or C competition.

We have been in tier 2 in Leinster in previous years in U-20, Meath, Westmeath, Laois, Carlow etc. That would be our level (and we never won it to progress to Tier 1, from memory anyway)

The B competition is a different ballgame, it would be 40 point victories I'm guessing
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2024, 11:30:38 AM
Ah ok that would make more sense.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 12:54:48 PM
If we snuck over the line by 1 point and progressed. Derry wouldve played B Competition. They beat Roscommon by 6 points in the final last year (in croke park) and have a good wack of that panel available this year? Why do we think we are too good for this??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 15, 2024, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 12:54:48 PMIf we snuck over the line by 1 point and progressed. Derry wouldve played B Competition. They beat Roscommon by 6 points in the final last year (in croke park) and have a good wack of that panel available this year? Why do we think we are too good for this??

Yeah. As someone else said, down to arrogance really, which is diasppointing. Go into the B competition and win it in Croke Park. Be good for the Antrim lads.

Seniors are bottom of their league with a huge - points difference so I'm not sure why that arrogance is there.

Maybe some of the panel will join the senior panel now. 

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 01:39:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2024, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 12:54:48 PMIf we snuck over the line by 1 point and progressed. Derry wouldve played B Competition. They beat Roscommon by 6 points in the final last year (in croke park) and have a good wack of that panel available this year? Why do we think we are too good for this??

Yeah. As someone else said, down to arrogance really, which is diasppointing. Go into the B competition and win it in Croke Park. Be good for the Antrim lads.

Seniors are bottom of their league with a huge - points difference so I'm not sure why that arrogance is there.

Maybe some of the panel will join the senior panel now. 

 

So when they lost out to a better Derry team on the day it's arrogance, they lost but had agreed that if they lost they will not be entering the competition below?

So stringing along lads for the reminder of the year from their clubs to win a 3 tier competition just to get a win at Croke?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 15, 2024, 02:32:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 01:39:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2024, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 12:54:48 PMIf we snuck over the line by 1 point and progressed. Derry wouldve played B Competition. They beat Roscommon by 6 points in the final last year (in croke park) and have a good wack of that panel available this year? Why do we think we are too good for this??

Yeah. As someone else said, down to arrogance really, which is diasppointing. Go into the B competition and win it in Croke Park. Be good for the Antrim lads.

Seniors are bottom of their league with a huge - points difference so I'm not sure why that arrogance is there.

Maybe some of the panel will join the senior panel now. 

 

So when they lost out to a better Derry team on the day it's arrogance, they lost but had agreed that if they lost they will not be entering the competition below?

So stringing along lads for the reminder of the year from their clubs to win a 3 tier competition just to get a win at Croke?


As much as we'll be without some lads for the first few league games due to Down being in the tier 3 competition (and rightly so) the lads we have involved will all learn something out of it and it's also part of the honour of playing for your county and maybe some lads are being denied that irrespective of the level.

Why didn't they use the same logic as the U16/U17 scenario and play an U19 team in the 3rd tier competition in preparation for 2025?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 02:48:32 PM
Not privy to the ins and outs of it to be honest, seems there are ones on here that know what happened and the reasons why they didn't move into the 3rd tier

Personally if I was the manager I'd be looking to play as many games as possible and let the lads play with the clubs, I certainly wouldn't be calling a manager and his team arrogant though while sitting behind a computer with zero input ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 15, 2024, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 01:39:22 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 15, 2024, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 15, 2024, 12:54:48 PMIf we snuck over the line by 1 point and progressed. Derry wouldve played B Competition. They beat Roscommon by 6 points in the final last year (in croke park) and have a good wack of that panel available this year? Why do we think we are too good for this??

Yeah. As someone else said, down to arrogance really, which is diasppointing. Go into the B competition and win it in Croke Park. Be good for the Antrim lads.

Seniors are bottom of their league with a huge - points difference so I'm not sure why that arrogance is there.

Maybe some of the panel will join the senior panel now. 

 

So when they lost out to a better Derry team on the day it's arrogance, they lost but had agreed that if they lost they will not be entering the competition below?

So stringing along lads for the reminder of the year from their clubs to win a 3 tier competition just to get a win at Croke?



Not sure what you're getting at there - a team who chat if they lose, what competition they'll go into/not go into if they lose.

I'm sure that conversation will go down well in the changing room the week before an Ulster championship final. I hope you're never giving the team chat the week before championship!

For the remainder of the year....it'll be only for another 6 weeks if I'm right. Then they have the whole summer to go back to their clubs, hopefully as better players.

It's a B competition, Down won it a few years ago iirc and Derry won it last year. They both got beat in Ulster, by Antrim.

Them two counties didn't turn round and say their season is over.

As others have said, it's arrogance. For whatever reason.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 10:57:23 PM
I asked the question, on setting out of the competition, had they agreed to not enter the other competition if they lost?

If so then none one it seems was concerned that if they lost then they'd be put altogether, but you are saying its arrogance.

I've also said I'm not privy to the ins and outs of it but you obviously are. Do tell?

As for being involved in Ulster finals, no issues there. I won one as a manager in hurling, even won an All Ireland semifinal too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 16, 2024, 12:16:48 PM
Good luck to the St Killian's hurlers today. Just leaving Castlebellingham now. Feels like half the Glens are here.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2024, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 16, 2024, 12:16:48 PMGood luck to the St Killian's hurlers today. Just leaving Castlebellingham now. Feels like half the Glens are here.
Coming home as All Ireland B Champions will feel good for those lads and management.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 16, 2024, 06:10:11 PM
Well done to the St. Killian's lads.

Tipp cranking things up for the championship.

Disappointing thar Seamus Kennedy is gone for the year. He could slot in anywhere.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on March 19, 2024, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 16, 2024, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on March 16, 2024, 12:16:48 PMGood luck to the St Killian's hurlers today. Just leaving Castlebellingham now. Feels like half the Glens are here.
Coming home as All Ireland B Champions will feel good for those lads and management.

Was a very slick performance, some super hurlers on that team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on March 19, 2024, 01:15:01 PM
happy belated St Patrick's Day folks. Must say i miss the old format of the football and hurling finals on the same, a day off work, few pints of guinness and the Dunloy ones going home on the bus with nothing to show! maybe im just a nostalgic old fool.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: barnish oggie on March 22, 2024, 12:59:17 PM
A substantial boost to the senior panel going by that press release.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on March 22, 2024, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 22, 2024, 12:59:17 PMA substantial boost to the senior panel going by that press release.

Much needed boost also.

Antrim for Leinster
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 22, 2024, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 22, 2024, 12:59:17 PMA substantial boost to the senior panel going by that press release.

That's almost a full 15 returning to the squad either returning from their travels or injury so Gleeson should be happy, but it may be unfair on those lads who's soldiered through the NHL to let them go!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on March 22, 2024, 03:30:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 22, 2024, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 22, 2024, 12:59:17 PMA substantial boost to the senior panel going by that press release.

That's almost a full 15 returning to the squad either returning from their travels or injury so Gleeson should be happy, but it may be unfair on those lads who's soldiered through the NHL to let them go!

Especially with a warm weather training camp in Portugal soon 🤔
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on March 22, 2024, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 22, 2024, 03:30:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 22, 2024, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: barnish oggie on March 22, 2024, 12:59:17 PMA substantial boost to the senior panel going by that press release.

That's almost a full 15 returning to the squad either returning from their travels or injury so Gleeson should be happy, but it may be unfair on those lads who's soldiered through the NHL to let them go!

Especially with a warm weather training camp in Portugalrush soon 🤔

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:16:15 AM
Will there be a panel cut? Weve around 25 of a panel fit and add in probably 15 named players either returning from a break or injury we could have 40
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2024, 09:23:47 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:16:15 AMWill there be a panel cut? Weve around 25 of a panel fit and add in probably 15 named players either returning from a break or injury we could have 40

All teams at intercounty can only have a certain amount in their names panels.

But like some counties they have lads ready at county standard ready to be called up.

Kilkenny were an example of that. I know the standard is higher but the policy I found was good
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:16:15 AMWill there be a panel cut? Weve around 25 of a panel fit and add in probably 15 named players either returning from a break or injury we could have 40

You would have thought so. We can't accommodate just pulling that number of players in.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: marty34 on March 25, 2024, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 09:26:47 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:16:15 AMWill there be a panel cut? Weve around 25 of a panel fit and add in probably 15 named players either returning from a break or injury we could have 40

You would have thought so. We can't accommodate just pulling that number of players in.

Hard on lads who have soldiered through the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 09:56:03 AM
Definitely though a lot of them young so hopefully good experience.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 09:59:41 AM
Still young yes and should be kept on in some form. S&C wise for sure. Testing etc
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 10:05:10 AM
It is abundantly clear both in football and hurling these days that you need a few years of the conditioning work to get properly up to speed. I would hope that the league will improve a lot of those boys a lot.

Are Gerard Walsh and Paul Boyle going to come back?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 25, 2024, 10:05:10 AMIt is abundantly clear both in football and hurling these days that you need a few years of the conditioning work to get properly up to speed. I would hope that the league will improve a lot of those boys a lot.

Are Gerard Walsh and Paul Boyle going to come back?

The statement said yes. Paul boyle getting a procedure and back playing very quickly after. And walsh back soon also. James McNaughton too. 3 Starters as are Ryan Elliot, Keelan and Nigel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on March 25, 2024, 10:56:59 AM
Great news that these lads are back. A strange but welcome communication from the county manager by way of a player update as its been speculation and rumour as to who's fit and who's not.

I just hope its not too late in the day to bring lads into a panel. I don't know much about S&C but hope they've all kept themselves in good nick - to be able to compete in Leinster champ.

Ger Walsh a starter for sure, could slot right into full back to most likely line TJ Reid in the first game. The Kilkenny half back line were outstanding on Sat again Limerick (Paddy Deegan etc..). Our half fwds will have the work cut out for them.

But very positive! 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 25, 2024, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on March 25, 2024, 10:56:59 AMGreat news that these lads are back. A strange but welcome communication from the county manager by way of a player update as its been speculation and rumour as to who's fit and who's not.

I just hope its not too late in the day to bring lads into a panel. I don't know much about S&C but hope they've all kept themselves in good nick - to be able to compete in Leinster champ.

Ger Walsh a starter for sure, could slot right into full back to most likely line TJ Reid in the first game. The Kilkenny half back line were outstanding on Sat again Limerick (Paddy Deegan etc..). Our half fwds will have the work cut out for them.

But very positive! 

Dunloy lads all went deep into club football season. Im sure they havent dropped all the gym work either and they've 4 weeks to top up the fitness which will probably be off, as will the injured players obviously. Portugal training weekend would potentially get guts of 2 weeks worth of training done in 4 days
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on March 29, 2024, 02:11:16 PM
will many games survive this weekend after that spell of weather
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on March 29, 2024, 02:20:41 PM
Hopefully, I know we've had a couple of training sessions called off for our ladies teams. Hopefully picks up soon.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 03, 2024, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on March 29, 2024, 02:11:16 PMwill many games survive this weekend after that spell of weather


We'd to reverse our fixture with Portaferry on Saturday evening and their reserves (more or less) beat us well...

It's going to be a tough year for us, a few more long term injuries and emigration's don't help.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 03, 2024, 12:02:17 PM
Is there promotion from Div 2,3 & 4 this year I take it ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 03, 2024, 12:02:17 PMIs there promotion from Div 2,3 & 4 this year I take it ?

Yes

Wednesday night 6pm throw in Div 2 games. Never seen the likes of it. All fairly close distance wise but still! Madness!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lubo Moravcik on April 08, 2024, 03:05:53 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 08, 2024, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 03, 2024, 12:02:17 PMIs there promotion from Div 2,3 & 4 this year I take it ?

Yes

Wednesday night 6pm throw in Div 2 games. Never seen the likes of it. All fairly close distance wise but still! Madness!

It's not close for any lads living and working in Belfast and still playing for their clubs out in the country.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 15, 2024, 11:08:06 AM
a brutal weekend weather wise for our hurlers. some gale blowing on Sunday in the glens and Belfast was a wash out from 2-4pm.
tight result in cushendall - anyone at the game? and Belfast St johns v Rossa looked like a low enough scoring game. all teams still without the county lads. Ballycastle and Loughgiele both with big wins.

Div 2 also fairly low scoring games. Brutal weather i imagine making these games sloppy etc...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 15, 2024, 11:21:09 AM
Dunloy and Ballycran were smart! The game was moved an hour earlier and missed the rain altogether
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 15, 2024, 01:00:36 PM
must have barra best on their committee
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 19, 2024, 12:23:15 PM
New look Antrim team, from the league anyway, he interesting to see how the fellas that didn't play any league get on
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2024, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 19, 2024, 12:23:15 PMNew look Antrim team, from the league anyway, he interesting to see how the fellas that didn't play any league get on
Question asked and answered.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 04:43:08 PM
Big hammering, thought, regardless of how we lined out that Kilkenny were going to go to town with us and whoever else comes their way..

Will be some soul searching on the way home after that
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on April 21, 2024, 09:23:31 PM
Not sure the logic in playing Bradley who hasn't played all year due to injury & Bohill to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 22, 2024, 10:09:09 AM
I can't remember a beating as bad as that in a long time. conceding 5-30! only scoring 0-13!! We've great talent in the county - this isn't on the players in my opinion.

team selection is very questionable in that lads who hadn't been involved in any of the S&C from pre-Christmas, hadn't played a part in the league campaign and weren't about the set up until a week or three ago were automatic starters and boys just back from injury were straight in. Smacked of desperation on the management's part.

I really can't see any other Div 1, Leinster C'ship team doing this! its possibly our biggest low in county hurling in the last 6/7 years!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 22, 2024, 10:14:10 AM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on April 22, 2024, 10:09:09 AMI can't remember a beating as bad as that in a long time. conceding 5-30! only scoring 0-13!! We've great talent in the county - this isn't on the players in my opinion.

team selection is very questionable in that lads who hadn't been involved in any of the S&C from pre-Christmas, hadn't played a part in the league campaign and weren't about the set up until a week or three ago were automatic starters and boys just back from injury were straight in. Smacked of desperation on the management's part.

I really can't see any other Div 1, Leinster C'ship team doing this! its possibly our biggest low in county hurling in the last 6/7 years!

Not hard to spot the agenda here  ::)

This result been on the cards all year and probably won't be the last before the season is done.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2024, 10:52:11 AM
Timmy Mallet at Cushendun pitch...

https://twitter.com/TimmyMallett/status/1782166634800501228 (https://twitter.com/TimmyMallett/status/1782166634800501228)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2024, 11:24:01 AM
I was down yesterday, what a one sided miss match. Biggest disappointment was the work etihic as some players just didn't seem interest. Paddy Burke and Eoin Campbell were the only two even close to the standard. Some good players looked beat before we started.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 22, 2024, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2024, 11:24:01 AMI was down yesterday, what a one sided miss match. Biggest disappointment was the work etihic as some players just didn't seem interest. Paddy Burke and Eoin Campbell were the only two even close to the standard. Some good players looked beat before we started.

Gleeson said as much, the players gave up very early on. By all accounts this is Gleesons last year and it seems to be fizzling out
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2024, 01:42:30 PM
He has done a great job and I would worry what will happen when he leaves.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 22, 2024, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 22, 2024, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on April 22, 2024, 11:24:01 AMI was down yesterday, what a one sided miss match. Biggest disappointment was the work etihic as some players just didn't seem interest. Paddy Burke and Eoin Campbell were the only two even close to the standard. Some good players looked beat before we started.

Gleeson said as much, the players gave up very early on. By all accounts this is Gleesons last year and it seems to be fizzling out

This is what happens with these outside appointments inevitably.

Time to get our own house in order and go with a local and change the approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on April 22, 2024, 01:50:32 PM
It's all about that Carlow match. Ideally we don't want to lose in that manner again but we need to maintain McCarthy status.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 22, 2024, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 22, 2024, 01:50:32 PMIt's all about that Carlow match. Ideally we don't want to lose in that manner again but we need to maintain McCarthy status.

It is but you can still go out and bust your balls for 70mins, that's the minimum expectation. Players have been training since November (officially),warm weather training camp, we are told how professional it is.

Nobody expected a victory but you will find it's not that easy to flick the switch when it comes to Carlos after some of the performances this year 

We talk about closing the gap to Dublin & Wexford, they wouldn't have been beaten by 30+ yesterday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 22, 2024, 02:35:42 PM
Championship starts this weekend. Corrigan a leveller against a lower tier side. We'll be judged on Wexford, Dublin and Carlow not KK and Galway
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 25, 2024, 01:53:13 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/christy-oconnor-antrim-want-to-prepare-like-the-best-but-did-they-really-need-to-go-to-portugal-for-a-week-BUKUYTUFVNAQRPROHBQYGAHJOU/

Interesting article in todays paper, what does a 'hurling CEO' get up to 9-5?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2024, 04:40:05 PM
Fantastic game, fair play to come back up the road after last week's debacle
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Lubo Moravcik on April 27, 2024, 04:44:24 PM
Fantastic result, well done lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on April 27, 2024, 09:19:30 PM
Great result, some change in 6 days
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Gold on April 27, 2024, 11:40:41 PM
Incredible result

Class heart and skill

Broduil
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 28, 2024, 09:34:57 AM
That is a fantastic result. The Dublin game will be very interesting now.

On another note how many goals did Joe McLaughlin score against ballygalget? I saw on cushendall twitter some updates and it just seemed to be Joe McLaughlin goal repeatedly.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: LC on April 28, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2024, 09:34:57 AMThat is a fantastic result. The Dublin game will be very interesting now.

On another note how many goals did Joe McLaughlin score against ballygalget? I saw on cushendall twitter some updates and it just seemed to be Joe McLaughlin goal repeatedly.

Is he still on the county panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: LC on April 28, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2024, 09:34:57 AMThat is a fantastic result. The Dublin game will be very interesting now.

On another note how many goals did Joe McLaughlin score against ballygalget? I saw on cushendall twitter some updates and it just seemed to be Joe McLaughlin goal repeatedly.

Is he still on the county panel?

Yeah he was a non playing sub yesterday
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 09:52:55 PM
Can an umpire give a square ball? I thought he couldn't. Donal Og slabbering today about the umpires not giving one in Carlow V Dublin game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2024, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 09:52:55 PMCan an umpire give a square ball? I thought he couldn't. Donal Og slabbering today about the umpires not giving one in Carlow V Dublin game

They can't, the ref can ask a question of whether a player was in the square before the ball entered. But it's ultimately the ref's call
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 10:47:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2024, 10:08:43 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 09:52:55 PMCan an umpire give a square ball? I thought he couldn't. Donal Og slabbering today about the umpires not giving one in Carlow V Dublin game

They can't, the ref can ask a question of whether a player was in the square before the ball entered. But it's ultimately the ref's call

Yeah that's what I thought, thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 29, 2024, 08:19:46 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 28, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
Quote from: LC on April 28, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 28, 2024, 09:34:57 AMThat is a fantastic result. The Dublin game will be very interesting now.

On another note how many goals did Joe McLaughlin score against ballygalget? I saw on cushendall twitter some updates and it just seemed to be Joe McLaughlin goal repeatedly.

Is he still on the county panel?

Yeah he was a non playing sub yesterday

I think at the minute I could score a half dozen goals against our lads, awful altogether.
Div2 here we come.



Good win for Antrim, now playing from more like a full panel and winning a game that really matters.

Dublin won't be taking you lightly for sure now.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on April 29, 2024, 08:44:40 AM
Any ideas when the draws are for championship? usually be done by now I thought
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on April 29, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
Hopefully with the win on Saturday the Antrim support will improve a bit for the other home games.

I totally get the expense involved, distance for some to travel etc but the support this year has been pitiful compared to even two years ago.

I wouldn't say we outnumbered the Wexford support significantly on Saturday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 29, 2024, 09:07:36 AM
Big result for the lads, but probably not a shock even with the performance the week before in Nolan Park.

Strange that our best players on the day all have played very little in the lead up to the game.

Maybe something to be said about freshness.

The draw between Wexford and Dublin could prove crucial.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: seafoid on April 29, 2024, 10:30:42 AM
You could say that Antrim vs Dublin is the East Coast final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2024, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 29, 2024, 09:07:36 AMBig result for the lads, but probably not a shock even with the performance the week before in Nolan Park.

Strange that our best players on the day all have played very little in the lead up to the game.

Maybe something to be said about freshness.

The draw between Wexford and Dublin could prove crucial.

I don't know if its strange or that they needed a game of intensity to realise that the standard required at Intercounty is something different.

They don't become bad players overnight, Kilkenny didn't relent the whole game and we coughed up chance after chance, so as we have done many times in Championship, we ship a big defeat and move on.

Wexford would be seen as lower end tier one and to get the win at home instead of a glorious defeat is refreshing, Dublin have had our number for a while now, so won't be coming (especially after that result) with thoughts of a handy win, Carlow was still the game at the start and still is, Galway will want to rack up a score too when the come to Corrigan.

So managing the games will need to be priority, getting something out of the Dublin game and beating Carlow would give Antrim a chance at finishing 3rd, allowing you a qualifier spot to reach the quarterfinals?

Thinking way too far ahead lol   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on April 29, 2024, 11:08:14 AM
Hopefully we can go to Dublin and perfrom something close to the weekend. Massive shift all over the field! Paul Boyle back in club action i see. Hoefully could add something off the bench as we probably are slighly light.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2024, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on April 29, 2024, 11:08:14 AMHopefully we can go to Dublin and perfrom something close to the weekend. Massive shift all over the field! Paul Boyle back in club action i see. Hoefully could add something off the bench as we probably are slighly light.

Paul had a great first half yesterday, and steady in the second, so would be great to spring from the bench.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2024, 12:49:10 PM
McManus wasn't too happy with the Irish news article.

Dublin game massive. Drew with them last year and tbh were the better team in the league only for a very fortunate goal for Dublin. They'll be a different team now though and all to play for. If we could get something and then have a must win game against Carlow last that would be great. I don't think we'll get anywhere with score difference so to have any chance need to beat Dublin. We never beat them but then we never had beat Wexford either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 29, 2024, 04:41:11 PM
Fantastic result against Wexford. Delighted for the players! Consistency is now key.
We need to do it again v Dublin and Carlow. Both games that are winnable but not easy games. Thought we looked stronger this week and certainly more solid at the back with the bigger men in there.

As a hurling county we deserve a big day out, with the right wins in the next month do we end up in all ireland quarter? or a prelim before the quarter? gaa website a bit confusing


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 29, 2024, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on April 29, 2024, 04:41:11 PMFantastic result against Wexford. Delighted for the players! Consistency is now key.
We need to do it again v Dublin and Carlow. Both games that are winnable but not easy games. Thought we looked stronger this week and certainly more solid at the back with the bigger men in there.

As a hurling county we deserve a big day out, with the right wins in the next month do we end up in all ireland quarter? or a prelim before the quarter? gaa website a bit confusing


Not sure we deserve it anymore than anyone else ! 3rd in both provinces play JMcD finalists in a prelim QF
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 29, 2024, 06:54:19 PM
Dublin a big game for both teams now. It's the kind of game we have got to before and got hammered. We're better prepped this time I think though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on April 30, 2024, 08:20:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2024, 06:54:19 PMDublin a big game for both teams now. It's the kind of game we have got to before and got hammered. We're better prepped this time I think though.

Also Dublin have dropped their level quite a bit, I think genuinely we have been the better team over the past number of years despite the results.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 30, 2024, 08:50:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 30, 2024, 08:20:16 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 29, 2024, 06:54:19 PMDublin a big game for both teams now. It's the kind of game we have got to before and got hammered. We're better prepped this time I think though.

Also Dublin have dropped their level quite a bit, I think genuinely we have been the better team over the past number of years despite the results.

Physically Dublin have been on top but their standard of hurling has been similar, Antrim need things to go their way to get the result in Dublin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2024, 09:05:45 AM
Yeah it's a tough game which I think Dublin should probably be favourites for ,particularly if they're at home, but I definitely think we're in with a good chance. They do tend to be a lot bigger than us but we're a much more physical team than we used to be.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 30, 2024, 09:21:38 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 30, 2024, 09:05:45 AMYeah it's a tough game which I think Dublin should probably be favourites for ,particularly if they're at home, but I definitely think we're in with a good chance. They do tend to be a lot bigger than us but we're a much more physical team than we used to be.

Well they are very strong favourites with the bookies, about 1/4 - but I agree I think it could be close enough. O'Donoghue hasn't brought much to the table at all as Dublin manager
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2024, 09:45:49 AM
No - major disappointment I would have thought though I think they were going backwards anyway but you would have thought he would have helped.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: theskull1 on April 30, 2024, 11:00:24 AM
Important to note that the element of surprise will now be gone after Wexford .... teams will not be taking them lightly (or as lightly) in the upcoming matches
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2024, 03:27:13 PM
You wouldn't expect Dublin to take us for granted as we drew last year though and were on a par in the league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on April 30, 2024, 04:02:18 PM
Is there only a 1 week break after three games in Leinster?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 30, 2024, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 30, 2024, 04:02:18 PMIs there only a 1 week break after three games in Leinster?

Think everyone has a two week break, everyone bar Galway & Wexford have it now, they play this weekend and then have two week break. Slightly different to Munster as there are an even number of teams in Leinster
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on April 30, 2024, 04:55:09 PM
Some notable results at club level at the weekend. the one i'm surprised the most over is with the scoreline in mckenna park. St Endas gave Ballycran a licking.

obviously cran have more than a few away with county in kerry but st endas must be going well. they've beaten ballycastle, put 1-16 on the board against cushendall and beaten cran. going well!   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2024, 05:15:03 PM
They were very good in the league last year too bu dropped off come championship. Maskey, if he's not away, is probably helping. They must have a few at county too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on April 30, 2024, 05:23:31 PM
I don't think you can read anything into league results at this time of year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 04, 2024, 06:51:02 PM
Wexford beat Galway... we may hold our horses on talk of any knockouts...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on May 07, 2024, 11:37:48 AM
half of me was thinking "sure if they can beat Galway, so can we" and the other half thought "oh Sh12"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 07, 2024, 11:41:41 AM
Likewise  ;D

Still if we beat Dublin and Carlow we would(most likely) go through so the Dublin game is a must win and tbh anything could happen in it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 07, 2024, 02:12:51 PM
Still need to beat Dublin and Carlow and that was always going to be the case anyway.

You could depend on Galway for nothing!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NorthAntrim on May 07, 2024, 04:09:52 PM
If we can press in the forward line like Wexford did, force the galway defence into mistakes, theres no reason why we cant give them a game too.

Obviously Dublin first, cant wait to see if we've a bit about us or did we catch wexford on a very off day
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 07, 2024, 04:21:39 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 07, 2024, 04:09:52 PMIf we can press in the forward line like Wexford did, force the galway defence into mistakes, theres no reason why we cant give them a game too.

Obviously Dublin first, cant wait to see if we've a bit about us or did we catch wexford on a very off day

Dublin are a bit wishy, washy too, so Antrim shouldn't be going into the game fearing them one jot.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on May 07, 2024, 05:43:56 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 07, 2024, 02:12:51 PMStill need to beat Dublin and Carlow and that was always going to be the case anyway.

You could depend on Galway for nothing!

apart from a nice pint and a good night's craic
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PM
Tragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Glensman on May 07, 2024, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.

Are you able to expand at all? Have not heard anything. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 07, 2024, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.
They'll have been home from NY on a high and then this lands on their doorstep.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on May 08, 2024, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 07, 2024, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.
They'll have been home from NY on a high and then this lands on their doorstep.

Devestated. I posted on FB about the NY trip and he commented saying how they'd never forget it. Can't believe it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on May 08, 2024, 07:04:29 AM
Quote from: Glensman on May 07, 2024, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.

Are you able to expand at all? Have not heard anything. Thanks.

A well known ex player, coach and current club ref was killed in a car crash. One of the best men you could have met, a real gent.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Glensman on May 08, 2024, 07:26:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2024, 07:04:29 AM
Quote from: Glensman on May 07, 2024, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.

Are you able to expand at all? Have not heard anything. Thanks.

A well known ex player, coach and current club ref was killed in a car crash. One of the best men you could have met, a real gent.

Very sorry to hear that. Thanks for the heads up. A tough time after such a high for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 08, 2024, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: Glensman on May 08, 2024, 07:26:34 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 08, 2024, 07:04:29 AM
Quote from: Glensman on May 07, 2024, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on May 07, 2024, 08:34:33 PMTragic news coming out of the Shane O'Neills club this evening. Thoughts and prayers are with them all.

Are you able to expand at all? Have not heard anything. Thanks.

A well known ex player, coach and current club ref was killed in a car crash. One of the best men you could have met, a real gent.

Very sorry to hear that. Thanks for the heads up. A tough time after such a high for them.

Really saddened to hear about this. A real gent is right - always had good time for him. The trip to New York which would have been talked about for years will now be recalled with sadness.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 08, 2024, 08:49:22 AM

Awful, tragic news to hear


Thoughts and prayers with Connor's family and his extended club family Shane O'Neill's
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on May 08, 2024, 09:28:11 AM
Sad news. thoughts and prayers with his family, friends and the club.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 08, 2024, 12:48:37 PM
Terrible tragedy for all concerned. RIP
Hopefully the kids will pull through.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2024, 11:58:36 AM
Team named for tomorrow. Massive game for us which will be a good marker for where we are at. Lineup looks strong.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 10, 2024, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 10, 2024, 11:58:36 AMTeam named for tomorrow. Massive game for us which will be a good marker for where we are at. Lineup looks strong.

Best of luck tomorrow lads.

Really pains me to say it as a Down man but your a good few levels above us, so give the bolloxes a good hammering for the whole of Ulster.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Slemishgael on May 11, 2024, 09:20:00 AM
Big game for the hurlers today!! Hope we get a decent crowd down to Parnell. Strong starting 15 for us and a decent bench too... Good luck!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Derryman forever on May 11, 2024, 10:00:17 AM
Wishing Antrim hurlers good luck, good hurling and a safe and happy trip home.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 11, 2024, 05:25:59 PM
Well bollocks to that :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 11, 2024, 05:37:07 PM
Back to earth with a bang

Dublin 3-32 Antrim 1-18
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: LC on May 11, 2024, 05:37:37 PM
Getting walloped by 20 points by a team they should have beaten in the league.

To say consistency is a problem is an understatement.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Saffrongael on May 11, 2024, 05:40:04 PM
Quote from: LC on May 11, 2024, 05:37:37 PMGetting walloped by 20 points by a team they should have beaten in the league.

To say consistency is a problem is an understatement.

Two different teams today and the league is the league as they say. Once we go out of Corrigan anything is possible, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 08:51:29 AM
Really but not again wholly unexpected unfortunately.

Hard to see where to go from here.

I wonder what will come out of the strategic review  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: north_antrim_hound on May 13, 2024, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 08:51:29 AMReally but not again wholly unexpected unfortunately.

Hard to see where to go from here.

I wonder what will come out of the strategic review  :o

That's the thing about strategic reviews, they are dependent on who is writing them and who is reading them. Here's my strategic review, we still haven't upped our game at inter county under age level.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 13, 2024, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 08:51:29 AMReally but not again wholly unexpected unfortunately.

Hard to see where to go from here.

I wonder what will come out of the strategic review  :o

That's the thing about strategic reviews, they are dependent on who is writing them and who is reading them. Here's my strategic review, we still haven't upped our game at inter county under age level.

Do you think we (antrim players) prefer the club over the county? Because, even at underage, the best players are still not all involved, and that's not down to the mentors
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 09:11:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on May 13, 2024, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 08:51:29 AMReally but not again wholly unexpected unfortunately.

Hard to see where to go from here.

I wonder what will come out of the strategic review  :o

That's the thing about strategic reviews, they are dependent on who is writing them and who is reading them. Here's my strategic review, we still haven't upped our game at inter county under age level.

Do you think we (antrim players) prefer the club over the county? Because, even at underage, the best players are still not all involved, and that's not down to the mentors

That is a huge issue but a lot of that comes down to the environment, if our development squads are really top quality places to be involved in and be around then kids will go to them and parents will buy in.

If we continue paying lip service to them then we will continue to get the current levels of interest.

To be fair they have improved but there is still a long way to go.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on May 13, 2024, 10:57:24 AM
i keep coming back to the players - the current crop! we definitely have something with the players. getting them all out with a full pre-season behind them and injury free and can beat the best.




Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 13, 2024, 10:57:24 AMi keep coming back to the players - the current crop! we definitely have something with the players. getting them all out with a full pre-season behind them and injury free and can beat the best.






It's serious commitment, 3 nights a week, your own S&C on your days off, game at the weekend or away for the weekend, no breaks in the year, still doing your bit with club when you can and its not as good as it sounds.

I'm not surprised that there are drop outs, or breaks in training and no surprises that they have injuries, some toll on the body, but we lack quality depth which when you look at some of the games lately the lads coming on to some county teams as subs have some impact.

Whether we can beat the best is debatable, certainly in one off league games or Championship games at Corrigan we can be competitive but being consistent needs crops of players coming through every year, otherwise, which has been happening for a few years, we burn out that squad, they all retire around the same time and we play the Christy Ring for a year or two!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: NAG1 on May 13, 2024, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 13, 2024, 10:57:24 AMi keep coming back to the players - the current crop! we definitely have something with the players. getting them all out with a full pre-season behind them and injury free and can beat the best.






It's serious commitment, 3 nights a week, your own S&C on your days off, game at the weekend or away for the weekend, no breaks in the year, still doing your bit with club when you can and its not as good as it sounds.

I'm not surprised that there are drop outs, or breaks in training and no surprises that they have injuries, some toll on the body, but we lack quality depth which when you look at some of the games lately the lads coming on to some county teams as subs have some impact.

Whether we can beat the best is debatable, certainly in one off league games or Championship games at Corrigan we can be competitive but being consistent needs crops of players coming through every year, otherwise, which has been happening for a few years, we burn out that squad, they all retire around the same time and we play the Christy Ring for a year or two!

I'd say closer to 5 nights in reality, which when you think of it is crazy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2024, 03:56:51 PM
You can see it with the yoyoing in the likes of Westmeath, Laois and Carlow too. The effort to get up to that next level is huge. Gleeson has had them committing though this year has been funny with quite a few coming in late.

It's a hard thing to sustain and then the carrot at the end of it is to hope to be competitive - it won't be for everyone.

Same for football and hurling these days.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Slemishgael on May 13, 2024, 10:42:51 PM
Can the hurlers dust themselves down and give it a real go in corrigan at the weekend against Galway?




Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2024, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: Slemishgael on May 13, 2024, 10:42:51 PMCan the hurlers dust themselves down and give it a real go in corrigan at the weekend against Galway?






Galway are a wounded animal at the minute and need (as we do) all the points. Hopefully we get a reaction too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Kidder81 on May 13, 2024, 10:53:35 PM
Galway usually lay waste to teams weaker than them, the opposite of Wexford really. Hard to make a case for Antrim getting within 10 points
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: JonnyD_ on May 14, 2024, 06:05:10 PM
anyone know why the county football and hurling championship draws haven't been done - this lad (and the mrs) looking to book holidays! i don't want to miss the craic. are the dates even available...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on Today at 06:05:10 PManyone know why the county football and hurling championship draws haven't been done - this lad (and the mrs) looking to book holidays! i don't want to miss the craic. are the dates even available...

Tell them to book early July, they'll be grand.

Some will be screened too, hopefully, I watched a match in London last year, fantastic job
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: johnnycool on May 14, 2024, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on Today at 06:05:10 PManyone know why the county football and hurling championship draws haven't been done - this lad (and the mrs) looking to book holidays! i don't want to miss the craic. are the dates even available...

Tell them to book early July, they'll be grand.

Some will be screened too, hopefully, I watched a match in London last year, fantastic job

Did you have to pay for it?  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling
Post by: Delgany 2nds on May 14, 2024, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on Today at 06:05:10 PManyone know why the county football and hurling championship draws haven't been done - this lad (and the mrs) looking to book holidays! i don't want to miss the craic. are the dates even available...
Draw is on 17th May

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